Article: 318972 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: finally my version of the weekend finds References: <1121210758.c246e566a8b609d007e96f97cfff0d05@meganetnews2> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:05:09 GMT >>total cost >>6 bucks!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> > > > And the pleasure of taking advantage of a grieving family.... PRICELESS > They were probably happy to have moved that stuff. That it found a good home. That they didn't have to toss it in the dumpster. Years ago my mom's mom checked out. Some antique dealers came to buy some stuff. The stuff we though was worthless fetched the most money (very old dresses and such). Furniture fetched less. Article: 318973 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: FS: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:14:53 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1121169727.756209.103780@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "----------" wrote in message news:1121169727.756209.103780@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Brenda Ann, you will have an order in the bucket in a minute so look > for it. Thanks! ???? > Article: 318974 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Can bad caps cause this? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1121134565.908633.314660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:16:19 GMT In article , comcents@bellsouth.net says... > > >Sure. So can other problems, but in any AA5 - all electrolytic and paper >caps should (IMHO) be replaced as a matter of routine. Once re-capped - >then other problems, if any - can be tackled. Recap the set; then run it Sorry but I just can't pass this one up.... too many people are blowing up perfectly good tubes... and transformers and all sorts of other parts.... Why?... because they didn't follow what Randy and other have said.... Guys that are collectors.... walk into my garage full of radios and ask me.... Does This One Work? Sorry but that is ONE STUPID QUESTION ... My answer is of course.. I DON'T KNOW .... I don't plug any radio in until the recap is completed.... maybe if I suspect a power tranny is already fried I pull the rectifier and other tubes and check it on AC voltages.. What is so hard about RECAP THE RADIO FIRST ?.... Ok ... I'll get off my soapbox now and go stick my nose in the corner.... John k9uwa Article: 318975 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <3dCdnfoVpuP5N0_fRVn-jA@comcast.com> Subject: Re: LANSING 2006 dates Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 08:46:54 -0700 "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:3dCdnfoVpuP5N0_fRVn-jA@comcast.com... > I just received confirmation from John Reineke, president of MARC, that > Extravaganza 2006 will be Friday July 7 and Sat July 8. > > As in all recent years, check in and one seminar is on Thurs, July 6., > which has turned out to be a casual socializing nite if the weather is > nice. > > This year I sat out chatting until 11PM with Paul Squires and Craig Korpak, > my buddy Dan had a little confab and refreshment fest around his tailgate > too., and there were several other groups chatting radios and stuff until > about 10:30pm. > > so, "gentlemen, mark your calendars!" for 2006. > > Mark Oppat > Thanks for the info, Mark. I'll save this, and convince Mrs. we need to see Michigan next summer. Cheers, Nelson Article: 318976 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Specifications for old Zenith plug-in transistors? Message-ID: <_sZAe.3549$Rx4.433@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:43:38 GMT "Jim Barnard" wrote in message news:db1iqt$4akm$1@news3.infoave.net... > Jim: > > I am trying to recall where I got the Zenith P/N to common > transistor type cross-reference sheet. I am sure it was off the > Internet somewhere. If I find it, I will post the URL. > Thanks! jim menning Article: 318977 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in PHX" References: <2bSdnZR-MeU62knfRVn-vg@bresnan.com> Subject: Re: finally my version of the weekend finds Message-ID: <1xZAe.74870$go.14077@fed1read05> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:47:54 -0700 outside of Cortez "Warren Weber" wrote in message news:2bSdnZR-MeU62knfRVn-vg@bresnan.com... > > "Bob in PHX" wrote in message > news:T5XAe.74836$go.18562@fed1read05... >>I was on vacation in Colorado and happened to stop in at an estate >>sale.... >> >> Hickok 752 tube tester with update manual, >> plus an Eico 952 Cap tester, >> plus two cool old sound powered telephones, >> total cost >> 6 bucks!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> bob in phx >> >> .ps. I didn't dicker the price down,, that was the first offer to me.... > Bob. Just curious, what town. Estate sales in my Colorado town they thing > every thing is gold plated. Warren > Article: 318978 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in PHX" References: <1121210758.c246e566a8b609d007e96f97cfff0d05@meganetnews2> Subject: Re: finally my version of the weekend finds Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 17:48:20 -0700 "JOE" wrote in message news:1121210758.c246e566a8b609d007e96f97cfff0d05@meganetnews2... > > "Bob in PHX" wrote in message > news:T5XAe.74836$go.18562@fed1read05... >> I was on vacation in Colorado and happened to stop in at an estate > sale.... >> >> Hickok 752 tube tester with update manual, >> plus an Eico 952 Cap tester, >> plus two cool old sound powered telephones, >> total cost >> 6 bucks!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> > > And the pleasure of taking advantage of a grieving family.... PRICELESS > > > ps - did you ask if they had any 'old bearer bonds' for historical value?? > > Article: 318979 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <9RSAe.3508$Rx4.3156@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1121209576.799375.28760@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:54:37 GMT "Tim" wrote in message news:1121209576.799375.28760@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I'm one of the younger collectors/restorers. I'm 18 and I started > collecting radios when I was 7. > > So if at least one person from the younger generation is interested > in > this hobby, then radio collecting is not dying. > > > 73, > > Tim > What? You're only 18 now? You were only 14 or so when you joined this group? Where you been Tim R.? We haven't heard from you in quite a while. I seem to recall you had been in Iowa, and then down to Texas. Last I knew you were buying car parts on eBay instead of your usual light bulb and electrical connector purchases. Come on back, give us an update! jim menning Article: 318980 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in PHX" References: <1121210758.c246e566a8b609d007e96f97cfff0d05@meganetnews2> <1121215942.783632.69700@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: finally my version of the weekend finds Message-ID: Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 18:02:59 -0700 thats were it all was going, except the Geiger counters were going to some museum..... There was a lot of heavy machinery... The gentleman was into mining and electronics.... The family was just trying to clean out the garage and house... bob in phx. "twomuttheads" wrote in message news:1121215942.783632.69700@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Did we mention that there is a special Colo sales tax for out-of-state > buyers? Hickok tube testers are assessed a one-time tax of $100. #45, > #01A, and #50 tubes are taxed at $75 each. LOL. > I enjoy my 752, I've gotten a lot of milage from it. $6 is better than > them tossing it or giving it to a thrift store (that would probably > charge $50-75!) > Article: 318981 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Can bad caps cause this? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1121134565.908633.314660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1121215850.628992.103010@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:08:26 GMT In article <1121215850.628992.103010@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, garyb@citicom.com says... > > >OK John, so I fxxked up royally. Fortunatly it was with a cheap Ebay >buy, a small bakelite set for ten bucks. But live and learn. No >more learning though. Tubes are a rather expensive way of fusing a >radio, LOL. > Hi Gary .... not picking on you as an individual... just trying to get all the guys to do the same thing.... we used to have a guy here.... we called him.... the Quickest UnPlugger in the Midwest... actually Canadian ... now we did pick on him a bit... Syl... where are U?... We all had to learn someplace... I fired one up today.... and the recap job on this one was done by my part time employee... it smoked.... a lot... seems that 47 Mfd 160 volt caps don't work well at all if hooked directly across the AC line... yup he wired the + side into the wrong pin on the 35z5 socket.. Boy did that little guy let our a lot of smoke... John k9uwa Article: 318982 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: tbavis@_remove_this_rochester.rr.com (Tom Bavis) Subject: Re: Looking for schematic - Granco 760 Message-ID: <42d469e7.9714828@news-server> References: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:11:58 GMT On Sun, 10 Jul 2005 17:00:15 -0500, Biff Malibu wrote: >Checked Nostalgia Air. Can anyone help? Thanks. Sams 350-5. I'll look in the basement... Article: 318983 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:22:55 GMT In article , maxbud12@XXXsigecom.net says... > > > >The point is, go out of your way to show off this stuff to young people. >Most don't have a clue that it even exists. > >Bruce > > Sometimes we fire up the crank phonograph first ... then we show them the really old one... little single spring edison cylinder player.. and finally fire up a nice old Zenith Console... most are very impressed with the sound from the old wood cabinet radios... Comments like it sounds as good as my FM radio but with more depth John k9uwa Article: 318984 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <24821-42D31810-892@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? Message-ID: <35_Ae.22061$eM6.1096@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:26:23 GMT You played with TUBES in the UK? Blasphemy! In the UK, you play with VALVES! "Engineer" wrote in message news:j6mdnQTUF7uW_UnfRVn-iQ@rogers.com... >" Uncle Peter" wrote in message >news:Z7FAe.71040$go.50953@fed1read05... >> >> "Ken G." wrote in message >> news:24821-42D31810-892@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net... >>> Knowing tube theory has nothing to do with it . I dont know much about >>> it and several friend collectors know even less . >> >> Speak for yourself there, Ken. I was brought up on tube theory and >> worked on tube gear for years. When solidstate came in, I junked >> a lot of tube testers and tube gear, enough stuff to make a true >> collector cry. Now, I enjoy reliving the old technology. Others do >> to for the same reasons. >> >> Pete > > Somewhat similar to my experience.... I played with tubes in the UK as a > teenager (I built a couple of TRF sets, first with 2 VDC (HL2, PM22A, I > forget the rest, with batteries, wound coils on toilet roll centres) and 4 > VAC tubes (only the PX4 triode comes to mind), and I actually fixed > neighbour's radios that were still in regular use! I learned electronics > on them (as a hobby and later on tubes in engineering school, but also > transistors.) > When I left the UK for Canada I gave away all my tube stuff and radios. > By then transistors had come in (did early experiments with the OC71 and > OC28) and I sort of switched with the technology and spent decades in > industry (in process control systems and automation, but no tubes!) Now > I'm back to tubes and old radios as one hobby (another is modern solid > state sound systems, but that's another story.) I also collect (and try > to fix!) classic early solid state sound systems, like Sansui receivers > (have a 5050 on the bench, just fixed 350A.) A 1960's tube Pioneer stereo > also awaits attention.) A current fun project is building a scratch 10 > watt mono PP amp with two 6V6's, 6SN7 and an as yet unchosen preamp stage. > A later project will be a stereo dual 15 watt tube amplifier (just > mortgaged the house to buy two new Hammond OPT's!) > Back on topic...two refurbished Stewart-Warners grace the office, great > for OTR music on our local 740 KHz AM station. A Cornado and a > "boatanchor" (working) are in the basement! Still looking for old radios > to restore. > Cheers, > Roger > > > > > > Article: 318985 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <24821-42D31810-892@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> <8-adnRHXWcHP-U7fRVn-oA@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 01:32:54 GMT In article <8-adnRHXWcHP-U7fRVn-oA@giganews.com>, philnelson@nospam.xyz says... > > >> Their seems to be 2 types >> radio collectors >> . . . . >> radio fixer > >Maybe, but one type can grow into the other. >Phil Nelson I sort of have a rule I follow with most of the "Radio Collectors" that we encounter.... and since I am sort of a business probably more than most of the guys run into... after about the third radio that the customer buys from us.... or maybe he bought one or two and found another someplace else for us to fix... we begin working on them to NOT stay as customers of ours.... try to get them started fixing the things themselves... some we start doing their own cabinets as they have a little basic knowledge of wood and like it.... so Jean works them over to do a couple cabinets... usually the first one here together.. sometimes it works... and some just plain want to stay collectors and learn nothing about the radios... and a few ... well we teach them anything they want to learn... John k9uwa Article: 318986 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42D474DD.E79675E8@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: New Jersey Antique Swap Meet Saturday July 30th. Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:56:46 -0400 The New Jersey Antique Radio Club will have their Summer Swap Meet Saturday July 30th. This is going to be a big one with many vendors. Reserve your tables now. Go to http://www.njarc.org for details Regards, Sal Brisindi NJARC Treasurer PS: Sorry for the repost, I just noticed I responded to my earlier post last month instead of reating a new post. On another note, the NJARC will host a repair clinic this Saturday July 16th at the Sarnoff Library in Princeton, deatils on the website. Thanks to Peter for the reminder. Article: 318987 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: finally my version of the weekend finds Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 20:15:48 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1121210758.c246e566a8b609d007e96f97cfff0d05@meganetnews2> "robert casey" wrote in message news:VUYAe.9149$aY6.5795@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > >>>total cost >>>6 bucks!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> >> >> >> And the pleasure of taking advantage of a grieving family.... PRICELESS >> > They were probably happy to have moved that stuff. That it > found a good home. That they didn't have to toss it in the > dumpster. > > Years ago my mom's mom checked out. Some antique dealers > came to buy some stuff. The stuff we though was worthless > fetched the most money (very old dresses and such). Furniture > fetched less. yeah they hooked you by paying a little more for the clothes, and since you were in such shock they rooked ya on the furniture randy Article: 318988 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? References: <24821-42D31810-892@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> <1121217469.050446.94380@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <6f%Ae.95985$du.9324@bignews1.bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:46:29 -0500 Llgpt@aol.com wrote: > Les Locklear > Monitoring since ' 57 > Located on the Gulf of Mexico Hey Les! - Glad to see you survived Dennis "the meanace" - though "he" didn't quite live up to the hype (Thank Heaven!). Best regards... -- randy guttery ~150 miles north of Les... Article: 318989 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: My next big purchase! From: Larry References: <11d5d8ogdh3cqcf@corp.supernews.com> <1121177061.206790.70150@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121184197.029583.126290@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 00:09:31 -0400 "xrongor" wrote in news:db1j6f$4b1e$1@news3.infoave.net: > this is the age of 20hz subwoofers Just like the rest of the music....Bass notes don't ALWAYS come from the same point....even if Bose wants them to... "How do I tell if a stereo speaker is any good?", they'll ask me. "Try to see if you can pick it up by yourself.", I reply. "Real speakers are too heavy for one person to carry.", I continue. "You can also try the doorway test. Try to fit it through a standard doorway without turning it sideways with the speaker pointing at the doorway's frame. If you can get it through this way, it's not a real speaker." -- Larry This jerk called my cellphone and was nasty. Continental Warranty -- MCG Enterprises -- Mepco- 24955 Pacific Coast HWY Suite C303 Malibu California 90265 888-244-0925 Fax: 310-456-8844 Email: help@continentalwarranty.com Read about them here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=92243&view=printer Article: 318990 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Can bad caps cause this? References: <1121134565.908633.314660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 04:33:21 GMT John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > Ok ... I'll get off my soapbox now and go stick my nose in the > corner.... It's ok John, Rand and I will always move over and make room for you. If you remember the chips and salsa this time. We even bought one of those high voltage bug zapper things to deal with annoying pests.... Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 318991 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? References: <9RSAe.3508$Rx4.3156@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 04:38:49 GMT Michael Black wrote: > I got my copy of "The Radiotron Designer's Handbook" [snip] > I picked up a copy of "Radio Engineering" by Terman Two of the BEST books on the shelf. The Radiotron for the HOW and the Terman for the WHY. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 318992 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: About OT posts in RAR+P Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:52:07 -0600 Message-ID: <18468-42D49DF7-1267@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <1121213601.327055.101640@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I have read this entire thread and most of the one on ARF . All of it makes sence . As i have learned ( i can learn ) As with everything in life each person will see , feel and use it different with a few who feel the same , nothing new about that . This is strictly my feeling and oppinion not intended to try & change anyone . I have read both groups for years . I can see 1000 posts with my equipment of this newsgroup at one time . I dont usually go back more than 3 pages because i already saw it or the thread had finished or went to OT . So within those pages i can count aprox. 1 to 10 topics and very often with some sort of arguing.. not `always` . Many times good radio topics and like lately 3 pages of George Bush that i could care less about and back right out & away . New people entering do enter an ``antique radio group`` remember . The ARF has hundreds and hundreds of organized topics all the time and growing . Places for strictly radio talk and others for totaly off topic , selling/buying and ebay . I look at both places almost every day and cant see where anyone sees where ARF is boring , sterile or only radio talk (but like i said to each his own ) , the place has catagorys for pretty much every taste . We talk about food , vacations , cars & home repair to mention a few on top of adding pictures in with the discussions . I just cant see where that can be sterile compared to a blank screen with rows of randome on & off topics you have to scroll through every visit to get the information that the group title suggests here on rar+p. Once again i read both and choose . Also the excuse ``I have to push more buttons to read ARF`` ok ..ok .. thats anyones choice but a bit silly ? If i had 2 big flea markets to visit near by and one took 5 more stop signs and 4 more turns of the wheel to get to i would not stop shopping it because of the extra stop signs :-) Again just my feelings , thoughts & fingers on the keyboard . I will read both + a few others till the day i cant . I wish all of you the best Walton. Article: 318993 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: About OT posts in RAR+P References: <1121213601.327055.101640@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <18468-42D49DF7-1267@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 05:07:39 GMT Ken G. wrote: > Also the excuse ``I have to push more buttons to read ARF`` ok ..ok .. > thats anyones choice but a bit silly ? If i had 2 big flea markets to > visit near by and one took 5 more stop signs and 4 more turns of the > wheel to get to i would not stop shopping it because of the extra stop > signs :-) If it were only a few extra stop signs on the way. It's more like before you can go to the next table, you hafe to walk back to the sign in table. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 318994 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: CD cap analyzer BF-50 questions Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:22:44 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:41:07 -0400, Ken wrote: > Anyone used one of these recently? I'd like to know how the eye tube > should respond when checking cap values. I have the book on it, recapped > it, all voltages look good. From the op man. I think the pattern should > stay closed while bridge is unbalanced, then open when nulled. Mine > stays open all the time and sort of clouds over at null. Two 6E5's do > the same. Such a simple ckt, but can't make it work. I don't know what a BF-50 is so I can only offer a general comment. Many capacitor testers, especially hobbyist/repair shop types put the output of the bridge directly on the grid of the eye tube. This means that the eye is getting an AC signal so the pattern won't be as sharp as if it were DC (like as a tuning indicator in a radio). Perhaps what you are seeing is normal. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 318995 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Ebay Feedback Changes. Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 22:19:00 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1120611852.966121.243030@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1120706401.729365.93110@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <922ze.4602$8f7.306@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1120751754.934870.22590@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <64oAe.158314$xm3.54115@attbi_s21> <11d4mnvj2hnpj90@corp.supernews.com> <8d289$42d2774a$4232bd4b$32044@COQUI.NET> <11d5tc3elmick98@corp.supernews.com> <536c6$42d3d4ab$4232bd65$32740@COQUI.NET> -ex- wrote: > I really don't want to be in a position to defend or advocate PP but > since you used me in your justification then I'll respond. I didn't get > burned by PayPal. The software glitch I experienced, and apparently > Gary hit the same one, is on the ebay end of things and was nothing more > than a momentary inconvenience that didn't cost me anything. Bill, my apologies. I didn't mean to imply that you suffered monetary loss, just that you had apparently hit the same programming bugaboo that Gary did. > > There's no excuse for poor (or no) customer service but the major part > of Gary's issue deals with his credit card company and an unresponsive > seller...both of which are in the position to correct the wrong. I > don't know if PP is in a position to do this...certainly they are not in > the BEST position although maybe they should be if they want to play > middle-man. The seller is probably in the best position to correct the problem Trying to get a situation like this resolved through a bank is like pulling teeth. Paypal is a useful service that works very well most of the time. My main objection is that when things go wrong it seems fairly certain that you're going to get your crank yanked by PayPal before the issue is resolved -Scott From adouglasatgis.net Sun Jul 17 12:54:14 EDT 2005 Article: 318996 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: About OT posts in RAR+P Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 06:31:29 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <1121213601.327055.101640@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <18468-42D49DF7-1267@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-688.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news2 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:318996 Hi, >If it were only a few extra stop signs on the way. >It's more like before you can go to the next table, you hafe >to walk back to the sign in table. That's more a function of the browser or newsreader than anything else. At least with Opera, going back is instantaeous as the page is reloaded from cache. Identifying new posts likewise isn't a problem. I've never been able to configure Firefox to reload from cache. And just for the record, there is no "unchallenged, bad advice" there. Just plenty of differing opinions. 73, Alan Article: 318997 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stein-Olav Lund Subject: GAS measurement on TV-7B/U Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:10:56 +0200 Message-ID: I was measuring a couple old EL84 tubes yesterday evening. They were slightly above the recommended minimum, which is 50 on a TV7 (according to Norman Lee's data) I wanted then to measure if they were gassy, I increased the bias till the meter went down to 10 and depressed the 'GAS2' button too. The meter deflected a little more (about 5 more). Gassy? Well, I then took out several other EL84's, a couple NOS Siemens and a Philips, and a couple new Russian 6P14P's. All (except the Russians!) showed similar behaviour. The 6P14P and 6P14P-ER(longlife) tubes had NO increase in anode current when pressing the 'GAS2' button. Do the Russians have that much better vacuum, or is there another explanation? Stein, LA9QV Article: 318998 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Sarasota swap meet August 13 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:32:28 GMT The Sarasota Antique Radio Club summer swap meet is coming up. The date is August 13. Usually it is scheduled on the first Saturday in August, but the date had been changed due to certain conflicts. Of course last year we had the meet the day after hurricane Charley -- I think 3 people showed up but we had it anyway. For those not familiar, the meet is located at the Knights of Columbus hall on Fruitville Road (Exit 210 off I-75), just west of the shopping centers. As we've done before, we will have a display area -- bring your favorite radio for other to see! More details as the time approaches. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 318999 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 07:33:31 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: About OT posts in RAR+P References: <1121213601.327055.101640@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <18468-42D49DF7-1267@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Ken G. wrote: > anyone . I have read both groups for years . I can see 1000 posts with > my equipment of this newsgroup at one time . I dont usually go back more > than 3 pages because i already saw it or the thread had finished or went > to OT . So within those pages i can count aprox. 1 to 10 topics and very > often with some sort of arguing.. not `always` . Many times good radio > topics and like lately 3 pages of George Bush that i could care less > about and back right out & away . New people entering do enter an > ``antique radio group`` remember . Ken, I'm not going to rag on you this time since this is a GOOD post. :) You'd be amazed at how neat and tidy rar+p is with a real computer newsreader. No spam, no George Bush rants cross-posted from other groups, no Dinius. Set the filters and they're GONE, completely. Set your preference the way you like and there's nothing but new posts showing. And the result is that you can zip thru the topics of interest without all the clicking back and forth. Its not really an issue to me how "fast" but in this case fast equates to clean and minimal repetition...moreso than a web-page forum. It does take some effort on the part of a newcomer to Usenet to get set up properly. If they are familiar with usenet it won't be a big challenge to manage their settings for this group. But as I mentioned in an earlier post, fewer and fewer people are savvy about how to do this (or even find this group) and would naturally wind up on a webpage group before winding up here. I've never seen how a newsgroup appears on WebTV but if its anything like those archived "digest" page sites, or even Google, where you have to read/scroll thru everything I don't believe I'd stay for more than 10 seconds if I landed into a dogpile of OT commentary. Regards, Bill Article: 319000 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" Subject: Popular Electronics ultrasonic "sniffer" and transmitter Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 04:44:13 -0700 Message-ID: <11d9vlu2o9e2c3e@corp.supernews.com> Some months ago, someone in this group (I think) wanted to see these. I finally found them. Please contact me directly if you're still interested. Article: 319001 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "G. Wilson" Subject: resilvering a blue mirror Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 05:57:18 -0600 Message-ID: hello I have just bought a Sparton blue mirror radio which has some bad spots in the mirror Does anyone know of a very reliable person who resilvers these blue mirrors who has experience in this area Or is resilvering a poor idea and it will look like a fresh coat of paint on an old antique Any thoughts would be welcome Gordon Article: 319002 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: About OT posts in RAR+P From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1121213601.327055.101640@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <18468-42D49DF7-1267@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 12:58:33 GMT In article , exray@coqui.net says... > > >You'd be amazed at how neat and tidy rar+p is with a real computer >newsreader. No spam, no George Bush rants cross-posted from other > >Regards, Bill Yup with this little WinVn (Free) newsreader... it takes maybe 3 minutes to look over all the new postings ... all of them are in thread order as thats the way I set it up. If a new post is made to a thread it shows some of the already read posts... and they are all in blue color where the new posts are in black.. makes it handy is you have to go back and look at a previous post its there to refresh your feeble memory ... or any threads U don't care about... right click and slide mouse over all of them and they turn blue like already read ... or when U exit you can tell it.. mark all posts as read... and I don't think that the newsgroup is going to croak anytime soon.. John k9uwa Article: 319003 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1121217469.050446.94380@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <1r8Be.148989$x96.83349@attbi_s72> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:12:29 GMT In article <1121217469.050446.94380@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Llgpt@aol.com says... > > > >It seems as though there is a "newbie" every couple of days or so, >and rather than read the archives, they ask the same > >Les Locklear Well it only takes a few seconds to give the newbie a simple answer to most of their questions... and a polite pointer to the archives if it is a question that they are going to want to read a little more about it.... and it gives the newbie a warm fuzzy and he will probably comeback again..... keep in mind as you stated that you sold off a good amount of your boat collection... well if you don't promote a little help to the newbies... there won't be any to buy the stuff you want to go away.... We just unloaded this last weekend a whole lot of mostly newbie type stuff at Lansing.... didn't get any money to speak of for the stuff.... just wanted it to go to good homes.. Damn I can walk through all the aisles in the garage once again!.. Phooey a big auction this weekend.... probably mess up the aisles again!... John Article: 319004 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Can bad caps cause this? References: <1121134565.908633.314660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <9r8Be.70998$ho.11823@bignews6.bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 08:13:44 -0500 Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > We even bought one of those high voltage bug zapper things to > deal with annoying pests.... Don't include me in that "we" - Jeff's CONVINCED the VI will stick his nose in the thing and get run off - I just think it'll smell the place up as he's too stupid to pull his nose back out... ;>) -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319005 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42D51796.3AF35521@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: About OT posts in RAR+P References: <1121213601.327055.101640@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <18468-42D49DF7-1267@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:31:20 GMT -ex- wrote: > > Ken G. wrote: > > > anyone . I have read both groups for years . I can see 1000 posts with > > my equipment of this newsgroup at one time . I dont usually go back more > > than 3 pages because i already saw it or the thread had finished or went > > to OT . So within those pages i can count aprox. 1 to 10 topics and very > > often with some sort of arguing.. not `always` . Many times good radio > > topics and like lately 3 pages of George Bush that i could care less > > about and back right out & away . New people entering do enter an > > ``antique radio group`` remember . > > Ken, I'm not going to rag on you this time since this is a GOOD post. :) > > You'd be amazed at how neat and tidy rar+p is with a real computer > newsreader. No spam, no George Bush rants cross-posted from other > groups, no Dinius. Set the filters and they're GONE, completely. Set > your preference the way you like and there's nothing but new posts > showing. And the result is that you can zip thru the topics of interest > without all the clicking back and forth. Its not really an issue to me > how "fast" but in this case fast equates to clean and minimal > repetition...moreso than a web-page forum. > > It does take some effort on the part of a newcomer to Usenet to get set > up properly. If they are familiar with usenet it won't be a big > challenge to manage their settings for this group. But as I mentioned > in an earlier post, fewer and fewer people are savvy about how to do > this (or even find this group) and would naturally wind up on a webpage > group before winding up here. > > I've never seen how a newsgroup appears on WebTV but if its anything > like those archived "digest" page sites, or even Google, where you have > to read/scroll thru everything I don't believe I'd stay for more than 10 > seconds if I landed into a dogpile of OT commentary. > > Regards, Bill The lack of kill files on PHP based "forums" is one reason I don't like them. Another is that some of them changes hosts which requires you to re-register, or they simply disappear. -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 319006 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: CD cap analyzer BF-50 questions References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 09:59:05 -0400 That's what I wondered, how well did it work when new. The bridge feeds an amp which drives the eye tube, the 60 cy sig is mostly negative, but has some positive, and no filter cap., pretty basic, and cheap. Oh well, a nice display unit. Jim Mueller wrote: > On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 16:41:07 -0400, Ken wrote: > > >>Anyone used one of these recently? I'd like to know how the eye tube >>should respond when checking cap values. I have the book on it, recapped >>it, all voltages look good. From the op man. I think the pattern should >>stay closed while bridge is unbalanced, then open when nulled. Mine >>stays open all the time and sort of clouds over at null. Two 6E5's do >>the same. Such a simple ckt, but can't make it work. > > > I don't know what a BF-50 is so I can only offer a general comment. > > Many capacitor testers, especially hobbyist/repair shop types put the > output of the bridge directly on the grid of the eye tube. This means > that the eye is getting an AC signal so the pattern won't be as sharp as > if it were DC (like as a tuning indicator in a radio). Perhaps what you > are seeing is normal. > Article: 319007 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Frank Dresser" References: <1121134565.908633.314660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1121215850.628992.103010@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Can bad caps cause this? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:12:40 GMT wrote in message news:1121215850.628992.103010@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > OK John, so I fxxked up royally. Fortunatly it was with a cheap Ebay > buy, a small bakelite set for ten bucks. But live and learn. No > more learning though. Tubes are a rather expensive way of fusing a > radio, LOL. > Limiting the AC current after you finish your first round of repairs will protect the radio and might save you another rectifier tube. I use a metered, isolated variac. A simple light bulb should work, too. Here's a dim bulb tester from Phil Nelson's very helpful website: http://antiqueradio.org/dimbulb.htm Frank Dresser Article: 319008 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 11:49:58 -0600 Message-ID: References: how did you LEGALLY get them in such a format where you can sell them? or did you steal them off the avia or soundvision discs? randy "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:db0900$q6d$1@news2.kornet.net... > If anyone needs these, I make them up on an as-needed basis. Each 4.7GB > High > Quality DVD contains the following: > > Grey raster: 5:00 > Red raster: 5:00 > Green raster: 5:00 > Blue raster: 5:00 > Dots: 10:00 > Crosshatch: 10:00 > Color bars: 10:00 > Grey bars: 10:00 > > These can be had for $5 each postpaid. This basically covers my cost for > printable media, label ink and postage, with a little for wear and tear on > my burner. > > I can make custom DVD's if you like for the same amount. These can be in > HQ, > SP or custom lengths (I don't recommend anything less than SP quality. > Custom DVD's can be made in any length between 60 and 120 minutes). Just > let > me know what you want on it in terms of display. Displays available are: > > Grey raster > Red raster > Green raster > Blue raster > Dots > Dots w/crosshatch > Crosshatch > Center cross > Step bars (green) > Color bars > Color bars w/o contrast bars > Monochrome bars > Bandwidth bars (0.5, 1.5, 2.0, 3.0 MHz) > > -- > Illigitimus non tatum carborundum > > (Don't let the bastards wear you down) > > From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Sun Jul 17 12:54:17 EDT 2005 Article: 319009 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD References: Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 14 Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 18:07:47 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1121278067 66.65.49.245 (Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:07:47 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:07:47 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319009 In article , xrongor wrote: > how did you LEGALLY get them in such a format where you can sell them? or > did you steal them off the avia or soundvision discs? Does it matter? For all you know she has a test-pattern generator and recorded the signals off THAT onto a master disk. It's not like those test patterns are copy-righted (are they?) -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 319010 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 13:21:59 -0600 Message-ID: References: >> how did you LEGALLY get them in such a format where you can sell them? >> or >> did you steal them off the avia or soundvision discs? > > Does it matter? well stealing is stealing. in a group that gets all up in arms over a 3% paypal charge or is ready to hang the guy charging a buck too much for shipping, i would expect less hypocracy. > > For all you know she has a test-pattern generator and > recorded the signals off THAT onto a master disk. who knows where they came from. so instead of guessing, im asking... > > It's not like those test patterns are copy-righted (are they?) my guess is that the 'patterns' are not, but a particular incarnation of those patterns could be and 'ripping' them from somebody elses disc for resell probably is. in any case, im just curious how you would obtain the patterns in a format you could resell. since brenda is touting how she isnt making much money on them, i thought this was more of a case of share the info than sell the disc... randy Article: 319011 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" Subject: Heads up Iowans; radio auction July 17th Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:36:47 GMT Radio collection up for auction in Marshalltown, Iowa this weekend. http://www.vanmetre.net/morepics.php?photoname=07_17_05&id=282 Article: 319012 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" Subject: Milwaukee area radio swap this weekend Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:38:22 GMT http://www.geocities.com/wi_arc/meetings.html Article: 319013 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" Subject: 1625 Tubes Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:54:26 GMT Got some (20 pcs) 1625 tubes NOS from a guy, i don't need them because i've another little stock of about 30 that's enought for me, i'd like to sell them, how much are they worth? -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 319014 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: 1625 Tubes Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:03:48 GMT "Daniele" wrote in message news:SjeBe.15065$tX6.329949@twister1.libero.it... > Got some (20 pcs) 1625 tubes NOS from a guy, > i don't need them because i've another little stock of about > 30 that's enought for me, i'd like to sell them, > how much are they worth? > Apparently not much. Demand must be low, many don't even get bids. http://search-completed.ebay.com/1625-Tubes_W0QQampq3bsspagenameZhQ3ahQ3aadvsearchQ3aUSQQcatrefZC5QQfclZ2QQfisZ2QQfromZR7QQfrppZ200QQfsooZ2QQfsopZ2QQpfidZ0QQsacatZQ2d1QQsofocusZbs jim menning Article: 319015 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jakdedert" References: <1121210758.c246e566a8b609d007e96f97cfff0d05@meganetnews2> Subject: Re: finally my version of the weekend finds Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 15:13:31 -0500 "robert casey" wrote in message news:VUYAe.9149$aY6.5795@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > > >>total cost > >>6 bucks!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >> > > > > > > And the pleasure of taking advantage of a grieving family.... PRICELESS > > > They were probably happy to have moved that stuff. That it > found a good home. That they didn't have to toss it in the > dumpster. > > Years ago my mom's mom checked out. Some antique dealers > came to buy some stuff. The stuff we though was worthless > fetched the most money (very old dresses and such). Furniture > fetched less. When mine passed in '00, we announced at the funeral that we had already tagged everything that we wanted; and invited everyone present to come take anything that caught their eye...under careful supervision, of course. It saved us a lot of trouble, and gave us some poignant insight into her life and her friends. Things that I would have immediately sent to the dump were prized items in other eyes..... jak Article: 319016 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: 1625 Tubes References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:11:02 GMT Daniele wrote: > Got some (20 pcs) 1625 tubes NOS from a guy, > i don't need them because i've another little stock of about > 30 that's enought for me, i'd like to sell them, > how much are they worth? As Jim mentioned, they're not fetching that much. Would have thought that the tube audio guys would like them, try rec.audio.tubes > Article: 319017 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 1625 Tubes From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:23:59 -0400 robert casey wrote in news:qzeBe.22449$eM6.16054@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net: > As Jim mentioned, they're not fetching that much. Would > have thought that the tube audio guys would like them, try > rec.audio.tubes >> > Final transmit tubes for AN/TCS-series HF transceivers from WW2. Same tubes as 807 but with 12V filaments instead of 6.3V in 807. They don't have much plate dissapation for audio power tubes. The TCS transmitters were for motor-generator mobiles, that used low power. -- Larry This jerk called my cellphone and was nasty. Continental Warranty -- MCG Enterprises -- Mepco- 24955 Pacific Coast HWY Suite C303 Malibu California 90265 888-244-0925 Fax: 310-456-8844 Email: help@continentalwarranty.com Read about them here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=92243&view=printer Article: 319018 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:27:24 -0400 Stephanie Weil wrote in news:slrnddamm1.m21.stephanie@home3.gordsven.com: > It's not like those test patterns are copy-righted (are they?) > Everything is copyrighted, today. Ever wonder why "Happy Birthday" isn't sung at Hooters? It's copyrighted by AOL-Time-Warner who'd want a royalty. Every time you sing it at Chucky Cheeze for your kid's 5th birthday, you're breakin' all kinds of laws to go to Federal Prison. But, like you say, besides AOL....who cares? Screw 'em. -- Larry This jerk called my cellphone and was nasty. Continental Warranty -- MCG Enterprises -- Mepco- 24955 Pacific Coast HWY Suite C303 Malibu California 90265 888-244-0925 Fax: 310-456-8844 Email: help@continentalwarranty.com Read about them here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=92243&view=printer Article: 319019 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: Subject: Re: 1625 Tubes Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:35:51 GMT jim menning wrote: > Apparently not much. Demand must be low, many don't even get bids. ...well, i'd gladly give a quad for 20$. Just a question.. mine are brown base VT type, RCA red box marked US ARMY.. on top a code unknown for me: SC 278 A anyone knows what does it means? Curious (for me) one side shows order number followed by 'FOR WESTERN ELEC. CO.', the question is.. why WE ordered tubes from RCA using RCA branded boxes and not customized WE boxes? Article: 319020 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Robinson" References: Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:35:54 GMT Hi Stephanie, Or just create the patterns in Photoshop, then import the resulting image file into Premier as series of stills. Finally export as a DVD ready Mpeg file. No generation loss on the conversion side then. Mark "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:slrnddamm1.m21.stephanie@home3.gordsven.com... > In article , xrongor wrote: > > how did you LEGALLY get them in such a format where you can sell them? or > > did you steal them off the avia or soundvision discs? > > Does it matter? > > For all you know she has a test-pattern generator and > recorded the signals off THAT onto a master disk. > > It's not like those test patterns are copy-righted (are they?) > > -- > Stephanie Weil > New York City, U.S.A. Article: 319021 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: Outsourcing of labor from the USA. From: Larry References: <0oWye.35952$qm.21496@bignews5.bellsouth.net> <1120683039.015393.108950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 06 Jul 2005 21:52:01 -0400 "Peter Wieck" wrote in news:1120683039.015393.108950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com: > To that end, my 1999 Mercedes ML320 was built in Alabama ( > http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20050626/BUSINESS/50 > 6260336/1003/BUSINESS > ), and that has stood the test of time and many miles quite well, > thank you. Even now, its "fit and finish" is as good as or better than > quite a number of 2005 vehicles that I have seen, including a number > of Daimer-Chrysler products made north of the Mason-Dixon line. > Clearly it was not put together by incompetent workers or incompetent > robots, take your pick/both. > > I have two GERMAN Mercedes autos. The ML is a piece of American-made crap! http://www.automotiveforums.com/t318582- does_anybody_else_hate_their_ml_.html http://www.detnews.com/2002/insiders/0202/26/insider-426466.htm http://www.troublebenz.com/ at: http://www.baileycar.com/JDPsurvey_html.html they say: But Chrysler, Dodge and the now-defunct Plymouth brand all outranked Mercedes, which had 318 problems per 100 vehicles. Ivers said Mercedes' troubles were concentrated in its M-Class sport utility vehicle and its E-Class sedans, which accounted for roughly half its sales. "The M-Class has had a lot of problems since its launch," Ivers said. "The rate of deterioration on the E-Class is greater than on any other vehicle in the industry." The ML sucks..... -- Larry This jerk called my cellphone and was nasty. Continental Warranty -- MCG Enterprises -- Mepco- 24955 Pacific Coast HWY Suite C303 Malibu California 90265 888-244-0925 Fax: 310-456-8844 Email: help@continentalwarranty.com Read about them here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=92243&view=printer Article: 319022 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pagan" Subject: Re: thanks, George! Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 12:51:30 -0700 Message-ID: <11cr1nmmvia8ue4@corp.supernews.com> References: <42c9e653$0$252$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.net> <42cac87d$0$256$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.net> <11clo2uc6dh7a96@corp.supernews.com> <42cbf5e3$0$650$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.net> "Stubby" wrote in message news:42cbf5e3$0$650$8046368a@newsreader.iphouse.net... > invalid@example.com wrote: > > Stubby wrote: > > > > > >>You're right: Brain damage is easy to spot. I see it every day in people > >>that continue to support the policies of the neo-cons against their own > >>economic self interests. Rather insane, actually. > > > > > > Still bitter about your man getting caught telling lies about his > > swift boat service, I see. http://www.swiftvets.com/index.php > > > Be more specific, please. What lies are you talking about? > > Are you saying that the entire US Navy lied about Kerry's service? Not the entire US Navy. The folks at www.swiftvets.com are telling the truth. > His > commanders who recommended him for his medals? The review boards that > approved the medals? Doesn't that call into question the decorations of > all veterans? Spoken like a true civilian. > For that matter, who are you to question Mr. > Kerry's waar record? Were you there? Anybody can question Kerry's war record, since Kerry himself has made his 'war' record a public issue, proudly proclaiming his heroism, bravery, and when he has time, his unyielding humility. Since it was his idea to tell everybody what a great war hero he was, it is a legitimate target where people who don't agree with Kerry can find fault. Kerry was at least smart enough to keep his real war record secret until after he was miserably beaten in the election, due obviously to his piss poor grades, showing him to be less than a shadow of the intellect of Bush. My guess is that after taking a test, he looked around at other papers and hastily changed his answers, which is exactly what he does today. Of course, Bush has nothing to hide, which is why he indeed made public his war record. And since the US Army National Guard believes he served honorably, that's good enough for me. After all, you don't think the entire Army is lying about Bush, do you? :-) By the way, I don't recall any group of veterans protesting Bush, or exposing his service, or lack thereof, or claiming that he lied. There was that one guy, the one who was found to by lying, causing much excitement and ending the careers of prominent reporters and anybody who worked for them. He didn't have a web site though. Sucks to have your guy fail, eh? heh Pagan Article: 319023 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:50:41 GMT "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:slrnddamm1.m21.stephanie@home3.gordsven.com... > In article , xrongor wrote: >> how did you LEGALLY get them in such a format where you can sell >> them? or >> did you steal them off the avia or soundvision discs? > > Does it matter? > Yes, David Colker may be lurking this group yet. ;o) jim menning Article: 319024 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Mills" Subject: Need pictures Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:53:58 -0400 I need a close up jpeg of the two sets of knobs on a GE L-916 console radio. I have restored the radio, but don't have the correct knobs on it. Does anyone have this radio in there collection, and could you send me the pictures? Tom Article: 319025 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: Re: How to Make a Dialcover? Message-ID: <6jg0d1thual2cqo9hhl445q49khrqget8v@4ax.com> References: <4KmdnVrOt4F6t03fRVn-hg@sigecom.net> Date: Sat, 09 Jul 2005 21:51:57 GMT I tried this for my first time a few weeks ago. a Detrola dial like the one on Eddies site. It took me quite a few tries because I found I had to adjust the size of the hole in the wood, and I was getting picky about how it fit. I used some epoxy between the origional metal escutcheon and the wood which I had cut out. ( used black tape so it wouldn't stick to the metal frame) That made the contour of the cutout the exact shape of the escutcheon. Rather than the oven I used a blowtorch, and didn't heat the face. it took 10 tries before I was happy. but the piece of plastic , big enough for ten tries only cost 2 bucks. I was able to form the plastic before removing the protective layer. In the end it worked out great. origionally it had microscopic rivits holding the lens to the frame. I don't know how to attach it now. the tiny rivets are hard to find. I have the old ones, but I ground them down to tke them out. carefully applied hot melt glue might work, any better ideas? Phil Article: 319026 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 13:24:50 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Passing on PayPal Fees? References: <8MCdnX88D6DoQ1bfRVn-hA@comcast.com> <648pc19ofn45nvefhk86b5j555b19plgv7@4ax.com> Message-ID: xrongor wrote: > if there was vague mention of handling charges and you didnt email to > clarify, well theres your cheap lesson but it doesnt sound like there > was. > > randy Nope. Not a word, not even a vague reference. At least she was nice about it but I suspect she's grumbling to herself about 'losing money' on the deal because she's only getting 3.50 to cover 95 cents postage instead of 7.00 -ex Article: 319027 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in PHX" References: <1121210758.c246e566a8b609d007e96f97cfff0d05@meganetnews2> Subject: Re: finally my version of the weekend finds Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 14:21:26 -0700 My wife's grandmother invited all her girls over for tea one day... Then she told them to tag everything they wanted when she passed... there was a lot of crying and holding each other,,, but everyone was happy in the end... it was tough, but I think it was the best way to do it!!!!. bob in phx... "robert casey" wrote in message news:VUYAe.9149$aY6.5795@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > >>>total cost >>>6 bucks!!!!!!!!!!!!! >>> >> >> >> And the pleasure of taking advantage of a grieving family.... PRICELESS >> > They were probably happy to have moved that stuff. That it > found a good home. That they didn't have to toss it in the > dumpster. > > Years ago my mom's mom checked out. Some antique dealers > came to buy some stuff. The stuff we though was worthless > fetched the most money (very old dresses and such). Furniture > fetched less. Article: 319028 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 15:32:42 -0600 Message-ID: References: i dont think its that easy. i dont think you can count on the mpeg encoder to encode the file in such a way that the specific attribute being stressed or calibrated would come out exactly as it should. but i could be wrong. randy > Hi Stephanie, > > Or just create the patterns in Photoshop, then import the resulting image > file into Premier as series of stills. Finally export as a DVD ready Mpeg > file. No generation loss on the conversion side then. > > Mark > > > "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message > news:slrnddamm1.m21.stephanie@home3.gordsven.com... >> In article , xrongor wrote: >> > how did you LEGALLY get them in such a format where you can sell them? > or >> > did you steal them off the avia or soundvision discs? >> >> Does it matter? >> >> For all you know she has a test-pattern generator and >> recorded the signals off THAT onto a master disk. >> >> It's not like those test patterns are copy-righted (are they?) >> >> -- >> Stephanie Weil >> New York City, U.S.A. > > Article: 319029 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 06:33:44 +0900 Message-ID: References: "xrongor" wrote in message news:db3k7u$5fov$1@news3.infoave.net... > how did you LEGALLY get them in such a format where you can sell them? or > did you steal them off the avia or soundvision discs? > As Stephanie suggested, I have made recordings from my NTSC generator. The discs are 100% legal. Though in the future I may try doing something in PhotoShop to add more patterns. Article: 319030 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: About OT posts in RAR+P Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:44:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1121213601.327055.101640@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <18468-42D49DF7-1267@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> In <18468-42D49DF7-1267@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) writes: >Also the excuse ``I have to push more buttons to read ARF`` ok ..ok .. >thats anyones choice but a bit silly ? If i had 2 big flea markets to >visit near by and one took 5 more stop signs and 4 more turns of the >wheel to get to i would not stop shopping it because of the extra stop >signs :-) Fleamarkets, like a lot of things rooted firmly in the physical world, face a lot of constraints as to where they can be located. It's impossible for any destination to be equally close for everyone. Making a good (or poor) choice of protocol needs only cluefulness and experience on the part of the user (or not). >I wish all of you the best Walton. McMurdo-Silver, baby. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 319031 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: About OT posts in RAR+P Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:01:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1121213601.327055.101640@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <18468-42D49DF7-1267@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> In Alan Douglas writes: [Jeff wrote:] >>If it were only a few extra stop signs on the way. >>It's more like before you can go to the next table, you hafe >>to walk back to the sign in table. > That's more a function of the browser or newsreader than anything >else. At least with Opera, going back is instantaeous as the page is >reloaded from cache. Identifying new posts likewise isn't a problem. >I've never been able to configure Firefox to reload from cache. All browsers reload from cache, unless you have it disabled by setting memory and disk usage to zero. I have a completely different issue with web-based forums. I find point-and-click terribly slow for reading. It's almost like instead of simply turning the page of a book, you were watching it on television and had to pick up the remote control and hit rewind to go back a page. Sure, not that big a deal if it's all you've ever known, but the speed and ease of use of a book would blow you away. Most web sites don't play well with text browsers, like Lynx, due to the overhead of format information which I find unnecessary for a discussion. Text isn't a good fit for everything -- I'd hate to paint with a keyboard. But I also hate to type with a mouse. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 319032 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" Subject: [OT] Precision sound level meter Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:03:52 GMT Anyone interested in those professional testers? I have a couple available, used i believe one or two times. One gone to a person that builds up rooms for audio/video, the other two are waiting for a new home. Full instruction booklet, calibrator. May be connected to PC, pictures on the binary. -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 319033 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "BobALoo" Subject: Sony TC-800B Manual? Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 17:45:51 -0500 Message-ID: Hello. I'm looking for an owners manual and/or service literature on the Sony TC-800B reel-to-reel tape recorder. It is from around 1971. Thanks! Marty Article: 319034 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Janssen Subject: Re: 1625 Tubes References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:20:25 GMT This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070001090906080901020805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniele wrote: > jim menning wrote: > > > >>Apparently not much. Demand must be low, many don't even get bids. >> >> > > >...well, i'd gladly give a quad for 20$. >Just a question.. mine are brown base VT type, RCA red box >marked US ARMY.. on top a code unknown for me: >SC 278 A anyone knows what does it means? >Curious (for me) one side shows order number >followed by 'FOR WESTERN ELEC. CO.', the question >is.. why WE ordered tubes from RCA using >RCA branded boxes and not customized WE boxes? > > > > I hate to say "I don't know" but will comment anyway. My guess is they were spare parts for a Western Electric provided transmitter. Typically radio equipment provided to the Army (or others) came with a spare parts kit. Western Electric made many radio transmitters. Bill K7NOM --------------070001090906080901020805 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Daniele wrote: 
 jim menning wrote:

  
Apparently not much.  Demand must be low, many don't even get bids.
    


...well, i'd gladly give a quad for 20$.
Just a question.. mine are brown base VT type, RCA red box
marked US ARMY.. on top a code unknown for me:
SC 278 A anyone knows what does it means?
Curious (for me) one side shows order number
followed by 'FOR WESTERN ELEC. CO.', the question
is.. why WE ordered tubes from RCA using
RCA branded boxes and not customized WE boxes?
I hate to say "I don't know" but will comment anyway.
My guess is they were spare parts for a Western Electric provided transmitter. Typically
radio equipment provided to the Army (or others) came with a spare parts kit. Western
Electric made many radio transmitters.

Bill K7NOM
--------------070001090906080901020805-- Article: 319035 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Sony TC-800B Manual? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:21:59 GMT "BobALoo" wrote in message news:db45iu01s4@enews1.newsguy.com... > Hello. I'm looking for an owners manual and/or service literature > on the Sony TC-800B reel-to-reel tape recorder. It is from around > 1971. > Service manuals available here: http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:BFlgQaZDJVoJ:www.vintageaudiomanuals.com/-S-.htm+Sony+TC-800B+%2Bmanual&hl=en and here: http://www.servicemanuals.net/(cenmpoexb5fvum45hi02v0bb)/results.aspx?type=SM&brand=160&model=TC-800B A little more "Googling" may bring up an owner's manual. jim menning Article: 319036 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" Subject: Re: Antique VCR Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 16:25:15 -0700 Message-ID: <11db8oatmb2u4e2@corp.supernews.com> References: <11cj7n5fqm1re77@corp.supernews.com> <1120515809.287730.79810@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <4dnye.16395$pa3.14737@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> <7rmdnRJ_1_HiW1ffRVn-vw@sigecom.net> <11clvop2n184h58@corp.supernews.com> <1121278512.174457.227160@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> > I've found that Sony products bit the dust right around 1992. The > difference in pre- and post-1992 is amazing. What happened? The > founder retired. Nobody else had the personal pride in the company > that he did. I guess my digital WEGA, purchased in 2000, must be a pretty bad piece of equipment. What about AIBO? Article: 319037 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42D5A3E9.52682DA5@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Can bad caps cause this? References: <1121134565.908633.314660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <9r8Be.70998$ho.11823@bignews6.bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:31:15 GMT Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote: > > Don't include me in that "we" - Jeff's CONVINCED the VI will stick his > nose in the thing and get run off - I just think it'll smell the place > up as he's too stupid to pull his nose back out... > > ;>) > -- > randy guttery Then you need a higher current power supply. :) -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 319038 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:31:34 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In Carter Grabarczyk writes: >In my humble opinion (and based on my definition), yes, the hobby seems >to be dying. >What is my definition of a "dying hobby" ? >Simply put, it is when you have more old geezers going out the back door >than you have younger people coming in the front door. Basic math--the >bucket is emptying faster than it is filling up. You're more likely to know the "old geezers", so this will bias a subjective head count. >Unfortunately, this seems to be true of many other hobbies >too--everything from ham radio to bird watching to Lionel train >collecting to theater organs to RC airplanes to stamp collecting to old >car collecting / hot rods to (fill in the hobby of your choice). Go to >any of these activities and see how many gray heads there are. I've been involved in this particular hobby for, I'd guess, close to twenty years. I've never been to a swap meet in my life. Overall I think the curiosity question the OP had is pretty hard to pin down one way or the other. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 319039 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 19:50:39 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: I'm back (sort of) References: <1121297260.848482.44770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <46d90$42d5a8d1$4232bd53$21848@COQUI.NET> Tim wrote: > It's been a while since I've popped my head around here. Good to see you back again, Tim. Happy Birthday~! -Bill Article: 319040 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1121297260.848482.44770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I'm back (sort of) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 20:07:10 -0400 "Tim" wrote in message news:1121297260.848482.44770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > It's been a while since I've popped my head around here. > with a great deal of success. > > I'll be around here off and on depending on my schedule. > > 73, > > Tim > Don't be a stranger! Welcome back. BTW, I worked in broadcast engineering during high school and after college for a bit, it never payed well but I had a lot of fun! Pete Article: 319041 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: I'm back (sort of) References: <1121297260.848482.44770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <27iBe.31542$e%5.1609@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:13:50 GMT Great, we need guys or gals your age in this group. The new tech stuff is needed to make a living and this stuff is for fun. Where else can you get a 400vdc shock to wake you up! Tim wrote: > It's been a while since I've popped my head around here. > > Today's my 18th birthday; I think I started bugging you guys around age > 14. I've grown up quite a bit since then... > > Unfortunately I've had to put radio restoration on the back burner for > the last year, as I'm going through a lot of stuff in life right now > that has taken all my time. Most of it was school related. During the > last school year most of my time was taken up by studying, technical > theatre, the Senior Musical (I was Stage Manager), Prom, being elected > Prom King, working on my $200 bargainmobile, my girlfriend, and > applying for college. > > Right now I'm working at a TV station as an intern in the Engineering > Department. If I play my cards right, I may land me a job there as > Assistant Master Control Operator. That would work out great, since the > TV station is on the University of Houston campus, where I will be > starting college this fall. > > Most of the stuff there is digital; about the only vacuum tube > technology I know of there is the modulator of the transmitter. Even > then, it's all solid state up until that point. > > It's totally different to me; I'm steeped in vacuum tube technology so > all this modern stuff is foreign and confusing. Talk of bitrate, fiber > channels, compression, and all that other stuff makes my head spin. > It's hard to comprehend this stuff since instead of physically wiring > components together to make them work, it's all programmed in with > computers or with modules or whatever. > > > In my absence I have done a little repair work for profit. A while > back, I was at an antique store mauling their selection of radios and > happened to strike up a conversation with the owner. I told him I > repaired radios, and he suggested I print business cards and distribute > them to the local antique dealers. I did that, and every once in a > while I'll get a call from somebody wanting me to fix their radio so it > can sell for more... > > I also got a crash course in automotive mechanics. About a year ago, I > latched onto a 1989 Ford Festiva that my neighbours sold me for $200. > Being broke and for the most part unemployed, I learned how to do my > own repair work through trial and error with a great deal of success. > > I'll be around here off and on depending on my schedule. > > 73, > > Tim > Article: 319042 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: I'm back (sort of) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:19:15 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1121297260.848482.44770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <27iBe.31542$e%5.1609@twister.nyroc.rr.com> "Lou deGonzague" wrote in message news:27iBe.31542$e%5.1609@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Great, we need guys or gals your age in this group. The new tech stuff > is needed to make a living and this stuff is for fun. Where else can you > get a 400vdc shock to wake you up! Only 400, Lou? :) I've done better than that (and still around to tell about it). How about 1200V off a charged cap in a microwave (that one got my attention for sure), I learned that yes, indeed, electric shocks CAN knock you across the room! Or ~2500VAC at 15KHz getting between the damper tube and chassis on a tube color TV? :) Article: 319043 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:26:09 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1121273093.235627.165190@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1121273093.235627.165190@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> lbrty4us@aol.com writes: >All retro/collectibles go through a cycle. Their height always >corresponds to the maturation of a generation which is old enough and >has enough money and time to finally try to buy back their childhood & >play with it (i.e., either what they had, remember fondly, or lacked >and lusted for). To pick a nit, not everyone goes for the stuff of childhood years. I can't stand the look of things from the 60's and 70's when I grew up. My aesthetic is firmly rooted in the pre-WWII era. So when someone who came of age in the twenties shuffles off her mortal coil, there will still be someone to happily snap up that electric chair fondly remembered from free-living youth. Or whatever. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 319044 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Moving a large radio/phono cross country? Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:29:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "Bruce Mercer" writes: >Thanks guys. Having been in the piano business for 45 years that service may >yet come in handy but this go round I think Gene Sandberg will be getting a >call from me. Three weeks or so isn't long to wait. I've been waiting 30 >years to find this machine. Now if the guy will only decide on a firm >price...I get it, and in one piece after a few weeks, I'll be one happy guy. C'mon, Bruce. Give. :) You can't post like that without telling us what it is. Understood if you'd rather wait until the deal's made, of course, or even until you get it into your hands. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 319045 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Moving a large radio/phono cross country? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:37:34 GMT "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:db4blm$a71$2@reader2.panix.com... > > C'mon, Bruce. Give. :) You can't post like that without telling > us > what it is. Understood if you'd rather wait until the deal's made, > of course, or even until you get it into your hands. :) > If it's this, Bruce had better be ready for a snipefest: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6545822575 jim menning Article: 319046 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: I'm back (sort of) References: <1121297260.848482.44770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <27iBe.31542$e%5.1609@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:43:25 GMT Ok, if you want my best shock it was the the 25,000v from a color TV while standing on my basement floor. But wait, maybe worse was the 460vac from a welding transformer primary use as boost for a compressor in my hand (it's a long story but the smell of burned flesh and numb fingers still lingers in my mind). Brenda Ann wrote: > "Lou deGonzague" wrote in message > news:27iBe.31542$e%5.1609@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > >>Great, we need guys or gals your age in this group. The new tech stuff >>is needed to make a living and this stuff is for fun. Where else can you >>get a 400vdc shock to wake you up! > > > Only 400, Lou? :) I've done better than that (and still around to tell > about it). How about 1200V off a charged cap in a microwave (that one got > my attention for sure), I learned that yes, indeed, electric shocks CAN > knock you across the room! Or ~2500VAC at 15KHz getting between the damper > tube and chassis on a tube color TV? :) > > > Article: 319047 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: finally my version of the weekend finds References: <1121210758.c246e566a8b609d007e96f97cfff0d05@meganetnews2> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:49:20 GMT We all know that someday we will check out. Either you put a price value on all your stuff now or your family will have to figure it out. If they don't want to take the time to do a search on Ebay or other venues to see what it's worth then that is what they will get, the price they offer it at. JOE wrote: > "Bob in PHX" wrote in message > news:T5XAe.74836$go.18562@fed1read05... > >>I was on vacation in Colorado and happened to stop in at an estate > > sale.... > >>Hickok 752 tube tester with update manual, >>plus an Eico 952 Cap tester, >>plus two cool old sound powered telephones, >>total cost >>6 bucks!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> > > > And the pleasure of taking advantage of a grieving family.... PRICELESS > > > ps - did you ask if they had any 'old bearer bonds' for historical value?? > > Article: 319048 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: I'm back (sort of) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 01:42:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1121297260.848482.44770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1121297260.848482.44770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Tim" writes: >Today's my 18th birthday; I think I started bugging you guys around age >14. I've grown up quite a bit since then... Happy birthday! It was mine yesterday, although I've had a few more trips around the Sun then you. :) >It's totally different to me; I'm steeped in vacuum tube technology so >all this modern stuff is foreign and confusing. Talk of bitrate, fiber >channels, compression, and all that other stuff makes my head spin. >It's hard to comprehend this stuff since instead of physically wiring >components together to make them work, it's all programmed in with >computers or with modules or whatever. I work in film-to-tape post production. Quite different from broadcast, but if there's any questions I might be able to answer give me a shout. We're pure digital here -- we don't even deal with composite video anymore, and are in fact moving away from conventional video entirely toward a file-based workflow known as DI (Digital Intermediate). As much as I love analog, I sure don't miss the hassle of room timing, level matching, SC/H phase, etc. Instead we now worry about getting 2TB of files to New Zealand in 24hrs. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 319049 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Moving a large radio/phono cross country? Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 01:44:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "jim menning" writes: >If it's this, Bruce had better be ready for a snipefest: >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6545822575 Aw, geez. If it *is* that Bruce's gonna be pissed at me for dragging the cat out. :) Not my style, but that thing's bone cool. Would look great next to a photo booth. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 319050 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: Re: Source for power cord for KLH Model Twenty Message-ID: References: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 02:00:30 GMT 2) The cord will no longer be removable as you would be permanently attaching it to the radio. This would limit the ability to repair the radio in the future. I didn't quite get the point across. what I suggested was pouring the epoxy in around the already soldered terminals to form the plug. a little vasaline , and perhaps some thin cardboard could help keep the epoxy from sticking, so it would be removable once it hardened. half of the terminal to be encapsulated inside the plug could be wrapped with card stock as well , so the springy part of the connector would still work properly. Phil Article: 319051 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: 1625 Tubes References: Message-ID: <2HjBe.53441$qm.14825@bignews5.bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:01:43 -0400 Daniele wrote: > Got some (20 pcs) 1625 tubes NOS from a guy, > i don't need them because i've another little stock of about > 30 that's enought for me, i'd like to sell them, > how much are they worth? > > -- > > Daniele ^___^ > http://www.tuberadio.it > > Fair Radio was selling NOS ones for about $4.50 each until their stock ran out. They are selling used ones for $3.00 each. This is about what they go for at hamfests. I've seen them listed on ebay for the same or a little more (sometimes they sell). If it wasn't for the shipping from Europe, I might be interrested in some. The 1625 AKA 807 with a 12.6v heater is a good sub for the 6L6G if you mod the unit (socket change, heater voltage, plate cap, etc). I was thinking of using them for a homebrew qrp ham rig final (single tube class AB1 will give up to 35W PEP out, a pair in AB2 will give up to 120w PEP out). Article: 319052 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <11cj7n5fqm1re77@corp.supernews.com> <1120515809.287730.79810@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <4dnye.16395$pa3.14737@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> <7rmdnRJ_1_HiW1ffRVn-vw@sigecom.net> <11clvop2n184h58@corp.supernews.com> <1121278512.174457.227160@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Antique VCR Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 02:03:26 GMT They started using Funai parts... and switched from Japan to Taiwan or Korea. Keith "ha1156w" wrote in message news:1121278512.174457.227160@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > I've found that Sony products bit the dust right around 1992. The > difference in pre- and post-1992 is amazing. What happened? The > founder retired. Nobody else had the personal pride in the company > that he did. > > > > robert casey wrote: > > > > > > Not all of SONY's products are things to write home about. > > > > > > The last SONY product I bought was a Walkman from Target Dept. Stores back > > > in January 2005. > > > > > > > > The tuner drifts on MW (the dial is too tight apparently) and is pretty > > > deaf, except on local stations. > > > > > > The sound is horrendous. Very boomy and muddy, even with the Mega Bass > > > control turned off. At least the tape player part is fine. > > > > > Sony product ain't as good as it used to be. They > > lost it some years ago. > Article: 319053 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:10:37 -0400 Gary Tayman wrote: > The second reason is that, in my opinion, the generation gap of the 50's and > 60's is still with us. We grew up listening to rock & roll, and our parents > grew up listening to big bands. The big band people still don't like rock & > roll, and the younger generation doesn't care for big bands. Heaven help me > if I play doo-wops at a radio swap meet! It's gotta be Frank Sinatra, > Dorsey brothers and Louis Prima! I hate to say it, but this doesn't exactly > draw young people to these meets -- in spite of the fact that this music is > more fitting to the period in which these radios were built. > I grew up in the rock-n-roll era, but I'm not jaded into that music only. I have almost as many classical music CD's in my collection as RnR. I enjoy the big bands too. I love "in the mood" (especially the version by Ray Stevens an the Hen House Five....just kidding!), and "take the A train" (I'm from NYC). But I can also be found listening to Beethoven, Wagner, etc as well. So no problems there..... > Which brings us to a third, important reason. Back in the 60's, a 1930 > radio was 30 years old. Now it's 75 years old, and a 30 year old piece > would be a nice Sansui stereo. But Sansui isn't spoken here -- you gotta go > back to the 1930's Philcos. > How about Fisher (when they were an American name made in the USA), Macintosh, even the old Heath Kits? (great stereos). > I think there is a parallel here to classic cars. Once upon a time, we > collected cars for nostalgic and historic reasons. There were tiller-driven > high rollers, Model T's, and similar contraptions that were highly obsolete. > Today, car of the same age include Mustangs, Corvettes, and Trans Ams, all > of which are in many ways cooler than today's typical automobiles. A 1936 > Packard really looks out of place at the typical car show. However that > Packard has NOT declined in value -- in fact some such cars are approaching > a million dollars. But the current generation seems more interested in cars > of the 50's and 60's -- or prewar cars turned into hot rods like we did in > the 50's and 60's.. I think if there was a higher emphasis on 70's stereos, > more people may remember and become interested. But the fly in the soup > is -- these units have not become collectible; at least not in the same > manner as Catalin. The answer? I'm not sure, but we shouldnot shun the > fact that time marches on -- if someone becomes interested in newer units, > so be it. Such as Zenith transistor radios. (I wish my OM hadn't thrown out his Owl Eye Zenith 500....) > > Article: 319054 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? References: <89ednQDD8-M8Nk7fRVn-1w@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:11:54 -0400 Carl WA1KPD wrote: > "Elements of Radio Servicing" by William Marcus and Alex Levy is great. I > have used it to find my way around a pretty complex homebrew superhet built > for ham use that had no documentation had been originally built in the late > 30's and modified over the years to include miniatures and loctals, > > I was able to figure out each circuit, get it operational on its own and > then get the whole ting up and running . My favorite trouble shooting book > I wore out the Brooklyn Public Libraries copy of that book. Must have borrowed it several dozen times as a teen. Article: 319055 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: Re: resilvering a blue mirror Message-ID: References: <1121300375.999664.149160@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 02:29:44 GMT On 13 Jul 2005 17:19:36 -0700, "Peter Wieck" wrote: >It is not difficult to do yourself either. Rochelle Salts (potassium >sodium tartrate) and Silver Nitrate are required, and scrupulous >cleanliness. > >I have a 558, been there, done that. > >Peter Wieck >Wyncote, PA someone posted an article on resilvering mirrors a while back . I saved it and will repost it to the binaries ( or email it) in case it is of help. Article: 319056 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: I'm back (sort of) From: Larry References: <1121297260.848482.44770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 22:57:09 -0400 "Tim" wrote in news:1121297260.848482.44770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > Today's my 18th birthday; I think I started bugging you guys around age > 14. I've grown up quite a bit since then... > Congratulations, Tim! Happy Birthday! If you're in the US, don't forget it's YOUR turn to register with the DRAFT BOARD...(c; I registered on MY 18th birthday in 1964. That was in January. I graduated high school in June and they were drafting everyone for Vietnam who wasn't nailed to the floor. Only joining the NAVY saved me from being government cannon fodder.... You are far luckier, now that there's no draft staring you in the face as you come out of school into the cruel world.... Open for some advise? Keep away from that TV station! Master control operators are paid the same as hamburger flippers at Mickey D's. TV expects you to be just so enthralled working there you don't need to be paid more than minimum wages. GO HARD FOR THAT ENGINEERING DEGREE. That's your keys to the big future. Sure wish I could have gotten mine.....(snif) Engineer students are far too busy working on the professor's government grants to fool around with amateur TV stations, anyways. Attach yourself to the professor's favorite grant that interests you most. They LOVE the students interested in what they're interested in....and grade them....and coddle them....accordingly....(c; -- Larry This jerk called my cellphone and was nasty. Continental Warranty -- MCG Enterprises -- Mepco- 24955 Pacific Coast HWY Suite C303 Malibu California 90265 888-244-0925 Fax: 310-456-8844 Email: help@continentalwarranty.com Read about them here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=92243&view=printer Article: 319057 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Phil Witt Subject: Re: I'm back (sort of) Message-ID: References: <1121297260.848482.44770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:59:24 -0500 On 13 Jul 2005 16:27:40 -0700, "Tim" wrote: >It's been a while since I've popped my head around here. Indeed! I remember, however. It's nice to hear about your progress. Although I know what a master control operator does, what, exactly, does an "assistant" master control operator do? Phil Article: 319058 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: I'm back (sort of) From: Larry References: <1121297260.848482.44770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <27iBe.31542$e%5.1609@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 23:00:05 -0400 Lou deGonzague wrote in news:NyiBe.141641$g5.97142@twister.nyroc.rr.com: > Ok, if you want my best shock it was the the 25,000v from a color TV > while standing on my basement floor. But wait, maybe worse was the > 460vac from a welding transformer primary use as boost for a compressor > in my hand (it's a long story but the smell of burned flesh and numb > fingers still lingers in my mind). > T'ain't nuthin..... One of my buds is an engineer at the most powerful UHF TV transmitter in SC....megawatts. The klystron runs on 25KV at AMPS, not milliamps. The power supply looks like your local substation. Cleans its own dust right off those insulators...with a bang! -- Larry This jerk called my cellphone and was nasty. Continental Warranty -- MCG Enterprises -- Mepco- 24955 Pacific Coast HWY Suite C303 Malibu California 90265 888-244-0925 Fax: 310-456-8844 Email: help@continentalwarranty.com Read about them here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=92243&view=printer Article: 319059 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: I'm back (sort of) Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 03:40:12 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1121297260.848482.44770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121310764.429643.142920@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1121310764.429643.142920@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Tim" writes: >Tim (not me!): >Do you know anything about streaming video? I'm messing around with it >trying to upload some video from Betacam tapes onto a server that is >connected to several computers in a library. That way people can watch >the videos without having to check them out and risk losing a tape. Oh, cheese. First question, and I've no experience with it. :( I probably know about as much as you do -- you feed video into a box that compresses the living daylights out of it, and generates a smaller file / lower bitrate stream. True streaming, BTW, is a protocol that adjusts the rate at which information is fed to the client to match the capability of the client. You often see folks talk about progressive download (i.e. download) as streaming, when technically it's not. But so far as your question, no, We Don't Do That. I could recommend you find a newer Betacam that has SDI out, or a Betacam-capable DigiBeta deck. That's going to be easier than finding a stream box that'll accept analog component inputs. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 319060 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Moving a large radio/phono cross country? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 03:57:27 GMT "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:db4g2l$fsa$2@reader2.panix.com... > In "jim menning" > writes: > >>If it's this, Bruce had better be ready for a snipefest: > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6545822575 > > Aw, geez. If it *is* that Bruce's gonna be pissed at me > for dragging the cat out. :) > > Not my style, but that thing's bone cool. Would look great > next to a photo booth. > Check out his other auctions, and look at the mansion full of toys he lives in. Nice view from the pool also. jim menning Article: 319061 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Audio-phools dream Message-ID: <2GlBe.7859$9S1.3946@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 04:15:58 GMT "Art's Antique Radios" wrote in message news:ZLidnbgkscugS0jfRVn-1Q@comcast.com... > > Not mine but couldn't resist > Art, I thought you were kidding us, but it was just that you & Bill have almost identical UserIDs. ;o) I sold several boxes of these at the Elgin meets in the past, probably about 60-70 pounds worth. I didn't think they were good for anything but meters and other test equipment, and I had a hard time getting anything for them. Many went to your donation auction there a few years ago. Now I'll have to watch this auction to see if they did have any real value. jim menning Article: 319062 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: Subject: Re: Audio-phools dream Message-ID: <1121316657.e52de0bfb5f9bbd0a75aac9e435d8509@teranews> Date: Wed, 13 Jul 2005 21:50:15 -0700 a lot of these were used in early generation analog computers - they are particularly bad for audio - they are little inductors after all "Art's Antique Radios" wrote in message news:ZLidnbgkscugS0jfRVn-1Q@comcast.com... > Not mine but couldn't resist > > 1% tolerance > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5789428463&category=71573&ssPageName=WDVW&rd=1 > From philsvintageradios<----- remove ----- Sun Jul 17 12:54:29 EDT 2005 Article: 319063 of rec.antiques.radio+phono X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.86.62.131 From: phil < philsvintageradios<----- remove ----->@yahoo.ca > Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: resilvering a blue mirror Message-ID: <182cd1lgmmmad9o93996bqseh18ddregqo@4ax.com> References: <1121300375.999664.149160@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1121309096.349894.242840@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 10 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 06:42:25 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.144.74 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1121323345 64.59.144.74 (Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:42:25 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 00:42:25 MDT Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!lotsanews.com!news.moat.net!news-out.newsfeeds.com!propagator3-LAX.newsfeeds.com!news-in.usenet.com!pd7cy1no!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319063 On 13 Jul 2005 20:02:19 -0700, "Eddie Brimer" wrote: >post it here. i would like to see it. it was a scan from a magazine. If anyone can't access the binaries , drop me an email and I will send it on.. good article, thanks to whoever posted it the first time. Phil Article: 319064 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" Subject: Re: Source for power cord for KLH Model Twenty Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 03:44:06 -0700 Message-ID: <11dcgh511q0u374@corp.supernews.com> References: > I didn't quite get the point across. > what I suggested was pouring the epoxy in around the already soldered > terminals to form the plug. a little vasaline , and perhaps some thin > cardboard could help keep the epoxy from sticking, so it would be > removable once it hardened. half of the terminal to be encapsulated > inside the plug could be wrapped with card stock as well , so the > springy part of the connector would still work properly. Rather than epoxy, you might consider using silicone sealant. From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Sun Jul 17 12:54:29 EDT 2005 Article: 319065 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: <1121290398.929288.222670@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith ZE11 power pack Lines: 3 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 11:35:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.6.126 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1121340957 67.53.6.126 (Thu, 14 Jul 2005 06:35:57 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 06:35:57 CDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news-feed01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net!nntp.frontiernet.net!newshosting.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!diablo.voicenet.com!24.94.170.120.MISMATCH!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319065 Its used on a Zenith 34P (1929) among other things Article: 319066 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1121338576.661015.143840@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Milwaukee area radio swap this weekend Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:36:49 GMT This sounds familiar. Last year's summer swap meet in Sarasota was a bust. Of course most of the problem was due to a recent hurricane, and the winter meet was somewhat successful, but all things considered this is certainly not a meet on the order of, say, Lansing. More or less it is a handful of friends who enjoy sharing cameraderie, and exchange projects, but it is certainly not what I would consider a marketplace. Maybe some of you in Kutztown or Lansing can share some tips. wrote in message news:1121338576.661015.143840@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hi Jim, > > Do you think there will be more than seven people including myself if I > show at this one? I went to one of the Milwaukee swaps last winter. > Nice folks, picked up a good set, but the crowd wasn't much of a crowd. > Thanks, GB. > Article: 319067 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1121338576.661015.143840@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Milwaukee area radio swap this weekend Message-ID: <1121344789.05a3c277c0a475106437e41e00389df2@teranews> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 07:39:52 -0500 I'm not Jim but being a regular attendee at these I'll tell you anyway...... The two winter swaps this year (especially the March one) were a disaster by any standard; held in unpleasant conditions and up a flight of stairs to move anything in, a lot of sellers didn't want to bother. The summer swaps are held outdoors in a decent-sized parking lot. They do much more business. So if you have the morning free, it ought to be worth your while. See you there..... Regards, Paul wrote in message news:1121338576.661015.143840@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hi Jim, > > Do you think there will be more than seven people including myself if I > show at this one? I went to one of the Milwaukee swaps last winter. > Nice folks, picked up a good set, but the crowd wasn't much of a crowd. > Thanks, GB. > Article: 319068 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter Grabarczyk Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:41:46 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > You're more likely to know the "old geezers", so this will bias > a subjective head count. > I've been involved in this particular hobby for, I'd guess, close > to twenty years. I've never been to a swap meet in my life. Nothing to do with who you know. If you actually went to swap meets or club meetings, you simply have to *observe*...to see that there are many more older than younger people attending. (Granted, my observations are generally based on southeastern Michigan and northern Ohio, which may or may not be typical for the rest of the country, although I have no reason to doubt that it would be fairly typical). 73, Carter K8VT P.S. If you are not actually going to swaps or club meetings, it would seem that you are in somewhat of a vacuum and would have no information to base your comments on, one way or the other. Article: 319069 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Can bad caps cause this? References: <1121134565.908633.314660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <9r8Be.70998$ho.11823@bignews6.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 08:24:39 -0500 Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > It's ok Randy, I already thought of that. I have the newest > model Suck-O-Lux 2005 stink-be-gone exhaust hood rigged up > over head. Not only will the smell be gone, so will the > resulting coffee can of ashes. I don't know, I'm still not convinced: Both booggers & zits travel far with great velocity when they explode (sorta like popcorn)... I still think some vaporous detritus will escape even the Suck-O-Lux... Speaking of popcorn - don't bogart that box, my friend; pass it over to me... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319070 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: OT: Re: My next big purchase! References: <11d5d8ogdh3cqcf@corp.supernews.com> <1121133496.583728.240320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1121327726.287037.97550@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:22:32 -0500 Jeff wrote: > Cerwin-Vega is top-of-the-line as far > as speaker systems go; Ah - not really; while C-Vs are "OK" - they certainly aren't "top-of-the-line" of any "line" - where "line" is taken to mean purpose or installation, etc. - in fact C-Vs are - like JBL - known for their somewhat exaggerated bass (euphemistically called the "west coast sound" - C-V even notes a 3db boost on some of their 15" floor standing systems). Don't get me wrong - I have several pairs of JBLs - and love them all... but I also know that what I'm listening to is "my taste" - which is not necessarily true to the original source. Here's just "one" example that is near the "top-of-the-line" in their "line" (i.e. near field monitors)... http://www.earthworksaudio.com/41.html Of course they cost a bit ($10K/pair MSRP) - but then you get what you pay for - IF you're careful... I've heard the 6.2s (only $3.5K a pair) against a $40K installation of "audiophile" speakers - and they (at 8 feet distance) just flat out performed the much more expensive system in every way - detail, clarity, presence, etc. As noted - both the 6.2s and the 6.3s are designed as near-field monitors - so IMHO - if you're going to use these (esp. the 6.2s) for normal audiophile listening - i.e. longer listening distances at low levels, a quality sub-woofer becomes a necessity to better handle the bottom end in that circumstance. In fact for comparison - we used the sub-woofer (which was only $2500 by itself) from that $40K with the 6.2s -- and the results were stunning any where in the room from a whisper to so loud your teeth hurt! So the 6.2s and a really good sub which cost a total of $6K absolutely (in several people's opinion - including the now upset owner) blew away the $40K system (and again - it was the $40K system's sub we were using). There is a lot of hype "out there"- be careful and *listen*. And yeah, I'm thinking about adding a pair of 6.2s to my JBL Sovereigns (as noted - I like my bass!!!! - and the Sovereigns - with their 15" drivers and 15" passive radiators do bass well!)- but at the price - I'll have to save my pennies! I could go on, but you probably get the point by now... there are some really high quality high accuracy systems "out there" that are truly "top-of-the-line"... best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319071 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1121338576.661015.143840@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121344789.05a3c277c0a475106437e41e00389df2@teranews> Subject: Re: Milwaukee area radio swap this weekend Message-ID: <4CuBe.7905$9S1.3634@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:26:08 GMT "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:1121344789.05a3c277c0a475106437e41e00389df2@teranews... > I'm not Jim but being a regular attendee at these I'll tell you > anyway...... > > The two winter swaps this year (especially the March one) were a > disaster by > any standard; held in unpleasant conditions and up a flight of > stairs to > move anything in, a lot of sellers didn't want to bother. The summer > swaps > are held outdoors in a decent-sized parking lot. They do much more > business. > So if you have the morning free, it ought to be worth your while. > See you > there..... > > Regards, Paul > What Paul said, plus... 1) You don't want to find out later what great deals you missed out on. 2) If people give up after one bad experience, then they aren't giving the club a fair chance. 3) They have a bar there, so if you do get disappointed, you can go in and drown your sorrows. ;o) See you there? jim menning From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Sun Jul 17 12:54:31 EDT 2005 Article: 319072 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: I'm back (sort of) References: <1121297260.848482.44770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121348568.235545.318310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 12 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:41:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1121352081 66.65.49.245 (Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:41:21 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:41:21 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wns13feed!worldnet.att.net!199.45.49.37!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319072 In article <1121348568.235545.318310@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Peter Wieck wrote: > However, I am a little concerned about that "crash course" in > auto-mechanics. Best way to learn. Similar to the "shock training" theory of learning radio and electrical work. :D -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 319073 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 09:54:42 -0500 Carter Grabarczyk wrote: > P.S. If you are not actually going to swaps or club meetings, it would > seem that you are in somewhat of a vacuum and would have no information > to base your comments on, one way or the other. Maybe - but the local club died - and the nearest one is a couple hundred miles away - which was also shrinking. So fast, in fact - that they started talking with another club (after many years of not speaking to each other) in another part of the state about merging as a way to save both clubs. I've not said that the hobby was "dying" - what I've said was that the number of people actively participating in it is shrinking. Same thing in many "hobbies" - HAM radio; Photography; Stamp collecting, etc. We're seeing many of the smaller clubs either disappear entirely - or merge into a larger one. Just like retail - the Lansing, Kutztown and similar meets are growing - while the smaller meets are shrinking - and disappearing. There will always be collectors (radio and otherwise) - but the number will shrink as time goes on. People's interest change- what was "rare" is now much more common. At one time - I had a "nice" collection of old radios - something that (at least in these parts) was quite rare. Now - jump on the internet - and see collections that are truly "world class". Much of the challenge of "the hunt" is gone. The price might be higher, but ebay and the like have brought far more radios out of hiding and made available in the past 5 years than I've seen in the previous 15 put together. As I've noted before - I sold off the bulk of my (by comparison) puny and quite unremarkable collection. It lost it's "gee-whiz" appeal; so I've kept just what is "neat" to Sherry and myself. That meant a large tube history display (a couple of display cabinets plus some huge tubes); much advertising and allied (cross) collectibles (salt and pepper shakers, pins, pens, letter openers, etc.) and not having to load a 5X8 Uhaul once a year for a day of craziness (the Mississippi Historical Radio and Broadcasting Society's annual member's meeting and show)... now exists only as a "virtual museum"... resting quietly on the Web (not even advertised or generally well known). Nope don't miss it, not a bit! And while there is some "new blood" coming into the hobby - I *know* that there are far more leaving the hobby - or at least becoming much less active in the hobby than there were just a few years ago- and I don't see that trend reversing. I would welcome such - but I don't see it - just too many other "things" going on in people's lives for there to be very many "enticed" into radio collecting... And I don't mean someone who has a couple of "old radios" about the house - (I have some old glass around the house, but I'm not a Heisey, Smith, Fenton, etc. collector)- but someone who truly "has been bitten by the bug". best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319074 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Robinson" References: Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 15:03:17 GMT Hi Randy, I suspect you are correct. But you wouldn't you have the same or worse problem encoding a composite signal from an NTSC test generator? I have a feeling you will never achieve truly accurate calibration signals using DVD as the delivery method, but for a simple thing like color bars or dot/ crosshatch patterns I think you would be ok. Mark "xrongor" wrote in message news:db4161$5lrh$1@news3.infoave.net... > i dont think its that easy. i dont think you can count on the mpeg encoder > to encode the file in such a way that the specific attribute being stressed > or calibrated would come out exactly as it should. > > but i could be wrong. > > randy Article: 319075 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Robinson" References: <11dcgh511q0u374@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Source for power cord for KLH Model Twenty Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 15:03:17 GMT Hi William, Thanks to your tip about Victor (I should have looked more closely at my cord since its marked right there). I did some searching and found this http://www.electronicsurplus.com/commerce/catalog/product.jsp?product_id=77332&czuid=1121184114423 It looks like it might be the correct one, so I ordered up a few since they were not very expensive. They should arrive in few days and I'll report back on the results. If not, then its on to molding. Mark "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:11dcgh511q0u374@corp.supernews.com... > > I didn't quite get the point across. > > what I suggested was pouring the epoxy in around the already soldered > > terminals to form the plug. a little vasaline , and perhaps some thin > > cardboard could help keep the epoxy from sticking, so it would be > > removable once it hardened. half of the terminal to be encapsulated > > inside the plug could be wrapped with card stock as well , so the > > springy part of the connector would still work properly. > > Rather than epoxy, you might consider using silicone sealant. > > Article: 319076 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 10:17:37 -0500 No offense meant to any of the previous posters on this thread - but I find it humorous to see "NTSC" and "accurate" in the same sentence. I don't think DVD encoding is going to do anymore harm to an NTSC signal than putting it over the air (or over a cable system, for that matter). There is a reason most of us refer to it as "Never The Same Color"... just musing... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319077 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Temple" Subject: Philco Butterfly Bezel Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 15:23:31 GMT I am looking for a bezel for a Philco 45 butterfly. An original would be nice, but a reproduction would be OK too. Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thanks Article: 319078 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Clap for the Wolfman Message-ID: <2CvBe.22923$eM6.17356@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 15:34:22 GMT It's a sad day in Mudville, or at least in Sarasota. I posted a message a few months ago, which created quite a thread. I met Wolfman, who had just begun a program on WIBQ in Sarasota. He told me he had taken Wolfman Jack's place on the radio and at appearances when the original Robert Smith was sick with throat cancer. Originally I wasn't sure of the times and places, but determined later it was 1980-1995 (When Robert Smith aka wolfman Jack died). This rang a bell, as I vaguely remember being told years ago that the Wolfman I was hearing was not the original Wolfman. I also recall just after Robrt Smith's death, hearing Wolfman doing commercials and other spots that Robert Smith could not have done. So I went out searching for an answer. The Internet has several websites devoted to Wolfman Jack, but none of them had any references to there being a double, or to Robert Smith having throat cancer. I also checked with certain personalities that should know. One told me he's full of crap, another told me there could well have been a double, others didn't know. But there was someone in my own car club that clinched it -- about 15 years ago there was a Wolfman Jack's restaurant in Old Town in Kissimmee. Wolfman made a point of being there on cruise nights -- but Robert Smith was very sick, and most of the time there was another Wolfman who took his place! In any case, I've been listening to Wolfman's Radio just about every evening, while working on radios at my bench. Frequently I'd call and make requests. A few times I visited the station, which is not far away. He would put me on the show, and we'd go to dinner afterwards. He, along with wife and friends, even came to one of my car shows -- and LOVED my setup (I play 45's). He introduced me personally to some local talent, and played some of their work on his radio show. From what I could see, he was making friends with personalities at various clubs and hot spots all over town. During the Fourth of July, WIBQ became the official station covering the Suncoast Offshore Grand Prix boat races, taking it away from Clearchannel. Wolfman was right in the center of it, covering the parades and other related events. More recently I received some bad news from the doctor. Believe me I was depressed, but it was Wolfman, among others, who gave me some moral support and helped me get through it. Last night I turned on Wolfman's Radio, and instead heard two hours' worth of useless yik-yak. Today it was confirmed -- Wolfman's Radio has been cancelled. I never did get his real name, but I suppose God sent him my way to get me through some rough times, with a little enjoyment and moral support. In a short and small way he has helped the community. I haven't heard from him yet, but I hope he can stay in the area. Whatever, I wish him luck, and can tell you all that he's an extraordinary fellow. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 319079 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: paulSPAM@paulsherwin.co.uk (Paul Sherwin) Subject: Re: Ever Ready Sky Baronet Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:16:47 GMT Message-ID: <42d68fb9.26646976@news.demon.co.uk> References: On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 14:56:28 +0100, "Neil Purling" wrote: >I have the circuitry of one & I am wondering what impedance the loudspeaker >ought to be because I don't have one. >The Ever Ready Sky Baronet was also sold as a BEREC Matador. I'm pretty sure it's 3 ohm, like most British radio speakers of the time. HTH, Paul -- Paul Sherwin Consulting http://paulsherwin.co.uk From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Sun Jul 17 12:54:32 EDT 2005 Article: 319080 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Source for power cord for KLH Model Twenty References: <11dcgh511q0u374@corp.supernews.com> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 17 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:35:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1121358955 66.65.49.245 (Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:35:55 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 12:35:55 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319080 In article , Mark Robinson wrote: > It looks like it might be the correct one, so I ordered up a few since they > were not very expensive. They should arrive in few days and I'll report > back on the results. They look similar to the power cords that Pitney Bowes used to use on their postage meters. We had one of those in my old job (newspaper). A tiny thing that fit in a suitcase. A friend who worked for Pitney Bowes (young guy) didn't know what I was talking about when I told him about it. "We use standard computer power cords for our stuff now", was his reply. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, USA Article: 319081 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <2bydnbHS2MkoFkvfRVn-sA@sigecom.net> Subject: Re: Moving a large radio/phono cross country? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:55:02 GMT "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:2bydnbHS2MkoFkvfRVn-sA@sigecom.net... > > You two really know how to scare a guy! That is one cool toy, but no > cigar. > I finally made a deal on an Edison radio/phonograph that plays both > vertical > and lateral discs. See? Told ya nobody here would have looked twice. > :-) > > Bruce > Congrats! jim menning Article: 319082 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Philco Butterfly Bezel Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 15:05:02 -0400 www.antiqueradioknobs.com might make it. Article: 319083 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42D6B76C.93E367A8@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Source for power cord for KLH Model Twenty References: <11dcgh511q0u374@corp.supernews.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:05:34 GMT Mark Robinson wrote: > > Hi William, > > Thanks to your tip about Victor (I should have looked more closely at my > cord since its marked right there). I did some searching and found this > > http://www.electronicsurplus.com/commerce/catalog/product.jsp?product_id=77332&czuid=1121184114423 > > It looks like it might be the correct one, so I ordered up a few since they > were not very expensive. They should arrive in few days and I'll report > back on the results. > > If not, then its on to molding. > > Mark If that fits make sure that it is wired right. There were two different types, with the neutral and ground swapped. If those don't fit, save them because they fit older HP and other test equipment, if they are the right wiring pattern. of course you can cut the plug off and replace it to correct the wiring. I have about a dozen pieces of test equipment that takes that cord, and only a couple cables so I have to move them around for different jobs. -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 319084 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Robinson" References: <11dcgh511q0u374@corp.supernews.com> <42D6B76C.93E367A8@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Source for power cord for KLH Model Twenty Message-ID: <9bzBe.9045$jh4.3393@trndny09> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:38:45 GMT Hi Michael, That was my thought as well. I have some of that older test equipment (Wavetek, HP, etc.), and that style power cord is also getting harder to find. I will make sure to check wiring as you point out. Thanks for bringing that up. Mark "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:42D6B76C.93E367A8@earthlink.net... > Mark Robinson wrote: > > > > Hi William, > > > > Thanks to your tip about Victor (I should have looked more closely at my > > cord since its marked right there). I did some searching and found this > > > > http://www.electronicsurplus.com/commerce/catalog/product.jsp?product_id=77332&czuid=1121184114423 > > > > It looks like it might be the correct one, so I ordered up a few since they > > were not very expensive. They should arrive in few days and I'll report > > back on the results. > > > > If not, then its on to molding. > > > > Mark > > > If that fits make sure that it is wired right. There were two > different types, with the neutral and ground swapped. If those don't > fit, save them because they fit older HP and other test equipment, if > they are the right wiring pattern. of course you can cut the plug off > and replace it to correct the wiring. I have about a dozen pieces of > test equipment that takes that cord, and only a couple cables so I have > to move them around for different jobs. > > -- > Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted > after threats were telephoned to my church. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 319085 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42D6BF79.2F35CCC5@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: About the "Thanks George" thresd (HAPPIER NOW) References: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:40:13 GMT Jeff wrote: > > I do not think the "Thanks, George!" thread belongs here at all. If > Google has an off-topic section, the originator of that thread should > take it there, IMO. First of all, this is Usenet, not Google. Google Groups is a slow, clumsy HTML portal into Usenet. > Also, again strictly IMO, the thread "This stops > right here, Steven Dinius." should not be here either (again, I would > suggest the originator take it to the off-topic section of Google, if > there is one). There is no such place, and I started that thread. Considering all the problems caused on this newsgroup by Steven, it is not off topic. > This kind of thread is an open invitation to flames, not > to mention being so far off the intended purpose of this entire > discussion group that it is not funny. The only person who has any > right to ban Mr. Dinius' (or anyone's) posts from this group is the > moderator, and then only if there is a good reason to do so. This is not a moderated newsgroup, and it has been a running battle to kill file all of the fake IDs Steven has used. There have been numerous complaints by a number of different members of the group about this issue. I also had all his e-mail addresses kill filed after some E-mails starting with "F*** You! You should die!" as the subject line. > If > individual group members wish to block Mr. Dinius' or anyone else's > posts to the threads in this group from their newsreaders for any > reason, that is that person's choice, but please remember that, as long > as the posts conform to the group's rules and standards, they should be > allowed here (except, as I said, for OT postings, which are frowned > upon in any newsgroup). So, you want to tell everyone how to use the newsgroup? Once again, it is not a moderated newsgroup. The thread was started after Steven wasn't getting the attention he wanted because he was kill filed. You have made less that 100 post to this newsgroup and you don't seem to grasp how Usenet works. If you don't want to read an off topic thread use a real news server and set kill files, or just ignore the thread on Google Groups. Since you use Google groups you didn't see his childish tantrum on the binaries newsgroup, or get the threatening phone call. Since you are not the moderator of the group you are entitled to your opinion, but no more than that. -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Sun Jul 17 12:54:34 EDT 2005 Article: 319086 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Source for power cord for KLH Model Twenty References: <11dcgh511q0u374@corp.supernews.com> <42D6B76C.93E367A8@earthlink.net> <9bzBe.9045$jh4.3393@trndny09> <42D6C06B.4BD86832@earthlink.net> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 21 Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:09:21 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1121371761 66.65.49.245 (Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:09:21 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:09:21 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319086 In article <42D6C06B.4BD86832@earthlink.net>, Michael A. Terrell wrote: > No problem! ;-) I thought I hit the jackpot when I found 20 of those > cords on old IBM mainframe terminals, but they were wired wrong, That's no problem. Just cut off the male plug at the end and wire a new 3-pin plug the way you need it. > Even worse, they were almost 12 feet long. That's no problem, just cut to size. > old they were all brittle. That's a problem, although if the jacket is the only thing that's brittle but the individual conductor insulations are still intact, maybe you could get away with applying heatshrink tubing to the jacket? Figured it could be a last resort. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 319087 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: finally my version of the weekend finds References: <1121210758.c246e566a8b609d007e96f97cfff0d05@meganetnews2> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:35:30 GMT > > > yeah they hooked you by paying a little more for the clothes, and since you > were in such shock they rooked ya on the furniture > Not that much shock, we knew for months that she would be checking out soon. Besides we know that dealers make money on such deals, and we otherwise would have tossed most of it. We were selling her house and had to clean it out. We did toss a few tons of crap anyway. Article: 319088 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Crazy George" Subject: Micamold XTR-1 transmitter residue FS Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:23:17 -0500 Message-ID: <42d6dcca_4@news1.prserv.net> In a pile of residue given to one of the clubs I frequent, a chassis labeled Micamold XTR-1 appeared. It obviously has been hacked a lot, but the markings have mostly survived. It appears to now be only a two stage xtal osc. followed by an amp (no tubes), but the two variable caps are there, a big coil under the chassis, and a handful of other parts. Anyone who is interested in this orphan, contact W5VPQARRLnet. I don't remember a power supply, and any question of details will take a couple of days to have another look. Didn't know Micamold made transmitters, did ya? -- Crazy George The attglobal.net address is a SPAM trap. Article: 319089 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <42d6dcca_4@news1.prserv.net> Subject: Re: Micamold XTR-1 transmitter residue FS Message-ID: <40BBe.100685$go.61657@fed1read05> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:43:28 -0400 I'm interested, if it is available. Pete Article: 319090 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter Grabarczyk Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:45:01 GMT Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote: > Carter Grabarczyk wrote: > >> P.S. If you are not actually going to swaps or club meetings, it would >> seem that you are in somewhat of a vacuum and would have no >> information to base your comments on, one way or the other. > > > Maybe - but the local club died - and the nearest one is a couple > hundred miles away - which was also shrinking. So fast, in fact - that > they started talking with another club (after many years of not speaking > to each other) in another part of the state about merging as a way to > save both clubs. > > I've not said that the hobby was "dying" - what I've said was that the > number of people actively participating in it is shrinking. Same thing > in many "hobbies" - HAM radio; Photography; Stamp collecting, etc. We're > seeing many of the smaller clubs either disappear entirely - or merge > into a larger one. Just like retail - the Lansing, Kutztown and similar > meets are growing - while the smaller meets are shrinking - and > disappearing. There will always be collectors (radio and otherwise) - > but the number will shrink as time goes on. I concur (if you equate "shrinking" with "dying"); exactly what I was trying to say in my original post. I think we are on the same side of the fence... 73, Carter K8VT Article: 319091 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: I'm back (sort of) From: Larry References: <1121297260.848482.44770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2aOdnQSSu8k4wUvfRVn-qw@adelphia.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:50:17 -0400 Roger D Johnson wrote in news:2aOdnQSSu8k4wUvfRVn- qw@adelphia.com: > Not true! A local station offered me a job at a whopping $7/hr! > WOW! I bet the little wife was all smiles when that paycheck came rollin' in!....hee hee. I think this must be why I see Mexicans laying brick here but not working in Master Control...which is a similar skill level...(c; -- Larry This jerk called my cellphone and was nasty. Continental Warranty -- MCG Enterprises -- Mepco- 24955 Pacific Coast HWY Suite C303 Malibu California 90265 888-244-0925 Fax: 310-456-8844 Email: help@continentalwarranty.com Read about them here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=92243&view=printer Article: 319092 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: I'm back (sort of) From: Larry References: <1121297260.848482.44770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121310764.429643.142920@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:53:05 -0400 "Tim" wrote in news:1121310764.429643.142920@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > I'm working on getting > my amateur radio licence right now; OUTSTANDING! I got my Novice license in 1957...er, ah, a few years ago. I was 11...(c; 73 DE W4CSC NNNN (They always put NNNN at the end of important-looking RTTY messages.) -- Larry This jerk called my cellphone and was nasty. Continental Warranty -- MCG Enterprises -- Mepco- 24955 Pacific Coast HWY Suite C303 Malibu California 90265 888-244-0925 Fax: 310-456-8844 Email: help@continentalwarranty.com Read about them here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=92243&view=printer Article: 319093 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: I'm back (sort of) From: Larry References: <1121297260.848482.44770@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121310764.429643.142920@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:55:39 -0400 "Tim" wrote in news:1121310764.429643.142920@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > Do you know anything about streaming video? I'm messing around with it > trying to upload some video from Betacam tapes onto a server that is > connected to several computers in a library. That way people can watch > the videos without having to check them out and risk losing a tape. > > 73, > > Tim > > How about a server-for-free from some other college students? Go to: http://www.videolan.org/ Download the VLC player, which will play ANYTHING so good the movie mongers are after them, bigtime. They also have server software running under many operating systems. It's amazing to see VLC playing video with its own, unhobbled codecs that nothing else will play....like incomplete .avi files. -- Larry This jerk called my cellphone and was nasty. Continental Warranty -- MCG Enterprises -- Mepco- 24955 Pacific Coast HWY Suite C303 Malibu California 90265 888-244-0925 Fax: 310-456-8844 Email: help@continentalwarranty.com Read about them here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=92243&view=printer From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Sun Jul 17 12:54:35 EDT 2005 Article: 319094 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Mica looking capacitor Lines: 8 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:56:25 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.6.126 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1121378185 67.53.6.126 (Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:56:25 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 16:56:25 CDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!news-east.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319094 I posted some photos of the underside of the old Zenith 34P chassis on the binaries group. There are a couple of "MICA LOOKING" capacitors in the group (I only photo'ed one of them). These ohm open should I replace them? are these type of capacitors known to be problems? Jim Article: 319095 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: Subject: Re: 1625 Tubes Message-ID: <5gBBe.17172$tX6.389601@twister1.libero.it> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:00:33 GMT David Stinson wrote: > The "SC 278 A" is a U.S. Army Signal Corps inspection number, > meaning that the tube lots were "spot checked" by a Signal Corps > inspector using that I.D. number. Thanks, that's interesting! > The order number itself will identify for which > set this tube was ordered. i.e, "1509-NY-41" > would be for the first run of SCR-274N, produced > in mid-1941. ..this says #77-WFSCPD-42 > W.E. was not "tooled up" to produce all the > kinds of tubes needed for the equipment it was > building. It ordered tubes for the gear from > many sources, RCA being the biggest supplier. Clear as water, many thanks, Daniele -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 319096 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: If I had a hammer... From: Larry References: <2y7Ae.28817$0i3.14119@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <93nbd15vi1d2tnb2cfndnb4h2redgt3q09@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:05:40 -0400 Cephus wrote in news:93nbd15vi1d2tnb2cfndnb4h2redgt3q09@4ax.com: > Ah yes... any Navy types that remember the KWR-37 / > KG-14? Whoa! Lemme make you feel at home...(c; beep....beep.........beep beep beep......(machine attached to it stops just as your message header finishes but restarts 3 messages further on, you having no idea what the message was about).....(c; Yeah, I remember the 37....and its card reader..... I was installing field changes in R-1051s in the spook vault on a carrier working for Amex Systems, a beltway bandit. Pulling the case out to get to the connectors on the back, I found a 37 card laying behind the receiver....(for those who don't know, this is like losing the Admiral overboard)...."Chief, you missing any crypto cards?", I casually asked the CTCS in charge. Of course, he answered no. "I found this one behind that receiver.", I answered, trying not to screw up my face and laugh. Boy, the shit hit the fan in the CT shack....All hands on deck! I was glad to be outa there after the field changes were installed..... -- Larry ET1 (ET-1598 Metrology) This jerk called my cellphone and was nasty. Continental Warranty -- MCG Enterprises -- Mepco- 24955 Pacific Coast HWY Suite C303 Malibu California 90265 888-244-0925 Fax: 310-456-8844 Email: help@continentalwarranty.com Read about them here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=92243&view=printer Article: 319097 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? References: <1121368398.791333.79730@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:06:33 -0500 Peter Wieck wrote: > Funny thing about this discussion. Most every point is "true" as far as > it goes. Since your reply was made directly to my post, I'm going to respond directly to your post on several points: > False: > The demand for quality radios in restorable condition is dropping. It > isn't. At all. I didn't say it was. What I said was that fewer "collectors". As long as there are more than one collector - there will be "demand". > Attendance at swap-meets and clubs is dropping off. It isn't either. I don't agree- the larger meets are surviving on the concentration of fewer collectors; because many of the smaller meets have died, and those that would have gone to the smaller meets - must now (in many cases) travel much further to get to the surviving meets. While the larger meets benefit - and indeed grow - overall - (IMHO) the total number of people attending meets nationally is shrinking each year. I know of at least 30 people here that haven't attended a radio collection meet since the demise of the local club- they just don't care to travel as far as they would have to go. I myself haven't been to a radio meet in several years now. For one thing - the internet has done a lot to substitute for the meets - though I admit - ain't the same- I miss the interaction with people you have in person. But then again - parts, data, etc. are available as never before due to the internet. > Mutual admiration societies die of necessity. They tend to have closed > ranks and see themselves as keepers of the flame. They are disdainful > of people who are dabblers as opposed to "true-believers". Many people feel this way about the AWA - however - it hasn't died yet - though it's certainly suffering problems. And considering it's the "national" club - that's a problem. > That one > such society would not interact with another such society even with > similar reasons for existence and interests is typical. Apparently you know nothing about the Birmingham and Huntsville club situation - and your speculation about the situation being "typical" is bogus, as both clubs went out of their way to keep their "situation" out of the public eye; I only knew about it as this club was an "extension" of the Birmingham club (I started to attend their meets and meetings - even though its a couple hundred miles. Don Kresge convinced me instead into starting a club over here). I was never aware of the public - or even many members - being aware of the rift. They just quietly ignored each other, but would in a heartbeat send newcomers along if they were closer to the other club, etc. In other words - there was zero effect on recruiting, etc. But with the realities of shrinking memberships; and it didn't hurt that certain elder members passed on - the clubs realized they needed to talk. As noted - I haven't been active in that direction in a long time - and I have no idea what the situation is now. The Birmingham club has a VERY nice museum (at the Fairfield Civic Center) > Clubs that reach out to the general public, design programs that > involve the general public, try to be inclusive rather than exclusive, > take the time to "set up" in Public Libraries, local historical > societies, local museums and similar tend to survive and thrive. Does > your club make Press Releases for its events? It did. In fact the MHR&BS had the largest, best attended meet in the region for several years. We even had international members (Japan and Europe)- though obviously - they didn't attend the meetings. We did, however - have participants from as far as Ohio, Tennessee, Kentucky, Texas, Arkansas, Louisiana, Alabama (in addition to participants from our sister club in Birmingham), Georgia, North Carolina, Illinois and Indiana (the Spring 1994 meet). Then - we were the first (of the year) "major" meet in the country - and had a lot of participation (we intentionally tapped into what was best described as cabin fever after the winter of "no meets"). Even Sue and Marty Bunis were going to try to make the meet - but had to change their plans due to some unforeseen circumstance (which would have added New Hampshire to the list). By 1998 - we had two other clubs with scheduled meets on the same weekend, a couple before and one the weekend after. By 1999 meet - I was ready to step down (as founder, president and chief "doer") and no one else stepped forward to take the reigns - so the club was disbanded (many then joined the Birmingham club). The problem here wasn't that we didn't reach out to the public (in fact - we had some 250+ "non collecting public" sign in at the 1994 meet) the problem was that no one was willing to take on the business of running the club. The Vice President (Bill Gerk) was being relocated; several of the active members had issues of their own - it was just one of those things. > There is no interest in vintage equipment anymore amongst the > instant-gratification set. I didn't say that, either. What I said was - the level of interest among the younger people is not as strong as it is with older people. Things the younger people grow up with are designed, in most respects - to be throw-away items. In general (there are exceptions - like Tim, of course) they don't have the nostalgia motive to collect the older sets that were made/used before their memory. We grew up listening to the radio and phonographs- and then eventually watching TV. Many of the younger folks have no memory of these things being their *primary* form of entertainment and information (news). They don't remember a time when they didn't have a cell phone - without instant, cheap communications anywhere in the world; without TV with 100+ good quality channels -- talking about picture quality, not the content here - and that's also part of the problem: "back when" TV was quality - at least by the standards of the time. Today- it's as "throw away" as the device it's presented on. Certainly - some younger folks will find the old technology, the old "forms" of interest - enough to catch the bug - but my contention is - those of us that grew up with it and are "expiring" - far outnumber the few younger ones that take an interest. How many kids do you see driving the retro cars? (the re-issue T-Bird; Chevy's Pickup, etc.)? Yeah, it's "kids" driving them, all right - old farts going through their second childhood. > We need to stop bemoaning the natural evolution of any hobby, > especially one that requires interactivity and skills that are no > longer common. We need to reach out on subtle levels to those who might > become interested by exposure. That's why I'm still here, among other venues. I don't "bemoan" anything - just recognize what seems - at least to me - to be the reality of the times. We live in a time where "spare" time is perhaps the rarest of all resources- and collecting radios takes time - time fewer and fewer people are willing to invest- at least not in collecting radios. > Kutztown started small. VERY small. And it had its ups-and-downs. But > it was NEVER exclusive. NEVER charged an admission, NEVER patronized > anyone, and ALWAYS remembered that the purpose was a good time. It also > took care to be in a venue where other interests would also be met at > the same time, thereby becoming a potential family event. Ah, so you admit - were it to try to "stand" alone on *just* collectable radios - it might not be as successful as it is. Also - location might have something to do with it. Note that the more successful meets / shows are in VERY dense population areas - where they and survive - even grow on a decreasing number of overall collectors (at the expense of the smaller venues). There is nothing wrong with this - in fact it is just exactly what I pointed out before: Many of the still surviving / thriving meets have combined and or taken advantage of other interests to provide that all inclusive factor: like combining with a HAM fest, and such. BOTH benefit by the larger interest factor. Point is, though - there was a time - that radio club meets (even smaller ones) stood on their own merit: the Birmingham club met at the Homewood Armory; the MS club met at the Jay Cees building in Meridian; and so on. By the mid 90s - most were combining at least some of their meets with the local HAM Radio clubs, and such. We had two of our three quarterly meets with the Jackson, MS and Biloxi, MS HAM club meets, the third quarterly meet was with the Birmingham club - usually at the Jefferson Center. Our annual meeting was always primarily a radio collecting meet in Meridian. The local Meridian HAMS, several of whom were also members of the MS club, always has a display at our annual meeting; as until Don Kresge died, the Birmingham Club would bring some of their oldest (and genuinely rare) radios to display. Point being - today most of the radio collecting clubs / meets, etc. need diversity to attract more people. Nothing wrong with that - just the way it is in the face of a shrinking pool of collectors. Is the hobby dying? No. Is the base of collectors / enthusiasts shrinking - IMHO - yes. Just my .02 worth - but based on better than 10 years of been there, done that. -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319098 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." Subject: Jackson 648 Tube Tester Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:30:39 GMT I recently picked one of these up at a flea market, not sure which version it is but the roll chart is on the bottom and there are two rows of pushbuttons. Also has a gas test. There are a couple of things I'd like to know; is this a decent machine? I'm not sure if it's a mutual conductance type or not. Also, where can I find the supplemental test data for this unit? Thanks. Article: 319099 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" Subject: Re: Source for power cord for KLH Model Twenty Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 15:37:49 -0700 Message-ID: <11ddqbbkd8itsa6@corp.supernews.com> References: <11dcgh511q0u374@corp.supernews.com> > Thanks to your tip about Victor (I should have looked more closely at my > cord since its marked right there). I did some searching and found this > http://www.electronicsurplus.com/commerce/catalog/product.jsp?product_id=77332&czuid=1121184114423 > It looks like it might be the correct one, so I ordered up a few since they > were not very expensive. They should arrive in few days and I'll report > back on the results. That's not the right connector. Don't waste your money. From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Sun Jul 17 12:54:37 EDT 2005 Article: 319100 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Type 81 tube subsitute Lines: 8 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:53:09 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.6.126 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1121381589 67.53.6.126 (Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:53:09 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 17:53:09 CDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!newshosting.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!diablo.voicenet.com!24.94.170.120.MISMATCH!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319100 This radio has a bunch of bad tubes ! one of the two 81's is bad, any subs out there anyone have one the can quickly send out ? Jim Article: 319101 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: <2HjBe.53441$qm.14825@bignews5.bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: 1625 Tubes Message-ID: <88CBe.17244$tX6.393040@twister1.libero.it> Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:00:20 GMT Ken Scharf wrote: > If it wasn't for the shipping from Europe, I might be interrested > in some. I can understand, the best i can do is 30.00 USD for 5 tubes shipping by registered mail included, takes about 5 to 10 days. -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 319102 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: <2HjBe.53441$qm.14825@bignews5.bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: 1625 Tubes Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:00:25 GMT Ken Scharf wrote: > If it wasn't for the shipping from Europe, I might be interrested > in some. I can understand, the best i can do is 30.00 USD for 5 tubes shipping by registered mail included, takes about 5 to 10 days. -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 319103 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: <2HjBe.53441$qm.14825@bignews5.bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: 1625 Tubes Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:00:40 GMT Ken Scharf wrote: > If it wasn't for the shipping from Europe, I might be interrested > in some. I can understand, the best i can do is 30.00 USD for 5 tubes shipping by registered mail included, takes about 5 to 10 days. -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 319104 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Mills" References: Subject: Re: Need pictures Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:01:17 -0400 I have posted a picture in binaries. Tom >I need a close up jpeg of the two sets of knobs on a GE L-916 console >radio. I have restored the radio, but don't have the correct knobs on it. >Does anyone have this radio in there collection, and could you send me the >pictures? > > Tom > > > From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Sun Jul 17 12:54:38 EDT 2005 Article: 319105 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: UX210 tube Lines: 9 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:25:02 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.6.126 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1121383502 67.53.6.126 (Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:25:02 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:25:02 CDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!news-east.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319105 Anyone have one of these? (UX210) Can you test it and tell me where it tests? Mine is testing around 60% in a IT-17 heathkit tester, and this tube seems hard to find. Jim Article: 319106 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:26:28 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In Carter Grabarczyk writes: >P.S. If you are not actually going to swaps or club meetings, it would >seem that you are in somewhat of a vacuum and would have no information >to base your comments on, one way or the other. My point was that attendance at meets is not the only way to measure the vitality of a hobby. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 319107 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: m_bunis@conknet.com (Marty Bunis) Subject: VINTAGE RADIO SHOW & SALE, NASHUA, NH Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:31:10 GMT Message-ID: <42d6f5b3_3@newspeer2.tds.net> Just one more post for the New England Antique Radio Club's vintage radio show this Saturday in Nashua, NH. It's going to be a great show...all 100 tables have been sold out and we expect a record crowd. Hope to see you there! The New England Antique Radio Club will hold its Summer Radio Swap Meet Saturday July 16, 2005 at Saint Stan’s Hall, Pine Hill Road, Nashua, NH. Participating will be club members from throughout New England, New York and New Jersey with over 100 tables of antique and collectible radios, TVs, parts, books, magazines, advertising and other related items for sale. Special events of the day will include three radio contests featuring console radios, Arvin radios, and tape recorders. The public is invited to attend and enjoy a day of radio fun and nostalgia. Show hours are 7am to 12 noon. Admission during exhibitor set-up from 7am -8am is $15; early admission from 8am-9am is $5 and general admission after 9am is $2. To reach St. Stan’s Hall take Rt. 3 (Everett Turnpike) to exit 6 (Route 130 East). Follow Route 130 East for a short distance to the set of lights at the 7-11 store. Take a left at the lights onto Blue Hill Avenue. This road crosses the overpass and becomes Pine Hill Road. St. Stan’s Hall will be on your right. Watch for the NEARC signs. For more information about the meet, contact meet chairman Marty Bunisby phone (603) 938-5051 or email (m_bunis@conknet.com). Visit the NEARC website at www.nearc.net Article: 319108 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:42:51 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Low BC volume - advice needed References: <8hsdd1t5tcuitvv82bj6slr1b163v6q8fr@4ax.com> Message-ID: <8b5cd$42d6f87d$4232bd3f$32246@COQUI.NET> Blacksmith wrote: > > On alignment for AM, I found that the tuning slug on the primary of > the first BC IF had very little effect. I'd be suspicious of the caps in the IF can. Bad contacts, migrated silver, etc. -Bill Article: 319109 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dennis Daly" References: Subject: Re: Jackson 648 Tube Tester Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:56:54 GMT "Chris F." wrote in message news:jIBBe.61221$Ph4.1834338@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > I recently picked one of these up at a flea market, not sure which version > it is but the roll chart is on the bottom and there are two rows of > pushbuttons. Also has a gas test. There are a couple of things I'd like to > know; is this a decent machine? I'm not sure if it's a mutual conductance > type or not. > Also, where can I find the supplemental test data for this unit? > Thanks. > > Hi- The Jackson 648 models are what are known as "Dynamic Emissions" testers. No gas tests, but good leakage (shorts) testing, compared to many of the "run-of-mill" Hickok models. It is said that they are near top-of-the-line for their class of tube tester. I like my 648S, for what it is, as much as my Hickoks. Jim Cross is selling his book he authored on the 648 tester models. I bought a copy. I think it would be the best complete data resource if you intend to make your model 648 a primary instrument for tube testing. http://www.vacuumtubesinc.com/648.html OK- Shamless plug for Jim. Den Article: 319110 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Phonetron Loudspeaker Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 01:58:19 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1121184975.665850.25200@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> sparkmuseum wrote: > Does anyone know where there is a Phonetron "sound Converter"? It was > a cone loudspeaker introduced in 1921 that doubled as a microphone. In the WWW? http://history.acusd.edu/gen/recording/phonetron.html Kind Regards, Georg Article: 319111 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Low BC volume - advice needed From: Larry References: <8hsdd1t5tcuitvv82bj6slr1b163v6q8fr@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 20:09:11 -0400 Blacksmith wrote in news:8hsdd1t5tcuitvv82bj6slr1b163v6q8fr@4ax.com: > On alignment for AM, I found that the tuning slug on the primary of > the first BC IF had very little effect. > DING!....DING-DING-DING-DING! Hear that bell goin' off? It had little effect because it's not TUNING TO PEAK! Either its coil is shorted or its capacitor is crap, the one buried in the AM IF can....which won't tear up FM, the other 10.7 Mhz can in series with it. They aren't very sensitive when the IF is 455 Khz and one of the cans is tuned to 486.72 Khz....(c; -- Larry This jerk called my cellphone and was nasty. Continental Warranty -- MCG Enterprises -- Mepco- 24955 Pacific Coast HWY Suite C303 Malibu California 90265 888-244-0925 Fax: 310-456-8844 Email: help@continentalwarranty.com Read about them here: http://www.ripoffreport.com/view.asp?id=92243&view=printer Article: 319112 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Robinson" References: <11dcgh511q0u374@corp.supernews.com> <11ddqbbkd8itsa6@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Source for power cord for KLH Model Twenty Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 00:14:14 GMT Hi William, The plugs arrived today. You are correct, however it does appear to be the right one for older test equipment (still have to check the pinout as Michael pointed out), so its not a waste for me. It looks like I'm into a molding project now. Mark "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:11ddqbbkd8itsa6@corp.supernews.com... > > Thanks to your tip about Victor (I should have looked more closely at my > > cord since its marked right there). I did some searching and found this > > > > http://www.electronicsurplus.com/commerce/catalog/product.jsp?product_id=77332&czuid=1121184114423 > > > It looks like it might be the correct one, so I ordered up a few since > they > > were not very expensive. They should arrive in few days and I'll report > > back on the results. > > That's not the right connector. Don't waste your money. > > Article: 319113 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Cool !!! Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 19:00:28 -0600 Message-ID: And it really is cool...now. After having my shop being hotter than the hubs of hell all summer so far...I finally bought an air conditioner for it. This is nice. Now maybe I can spend more that just an hour or so at a shot out here at a time. Now the old shop is complete with heat, air conditioning, phone, cable TV and internet access. Maybe I should just move in out here ?? Nah...I don't have a fridge yet for the iced tea. Ben Article: 319114 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Cool !!! From: Wayne Boatwright References: Message-ID: Date: 15 Jul 2005 03:15:54 +0200 On Thu 14 Jul 2005 06:00:28p, Benjamaniac wrote in rec.antiques.radio+phono: > And it really is cool...now. After having my shop being hotter > than > the hubs of hell all summer so far...I finally bought an air conditioner > for it. This is nice. Now maybe I can spend more that just an hour or so > at a shot out here at a time. Now the old shop is complete with heat, > air conditioning, phone, cable TV and internet access. Maybe I should > just move in out here ?? Nah...I don't have a fridge yet for the iced > tea. > Ben LOL! Buy the fridge, a microwave, and move into the garage, then rent out the house! -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* ____________________________________________ Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day. Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0528-4, 07/14/2005 Tested on: 7/14/2005 6:11:38 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Article: 319115 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Why Were Tubes Extra? From: Wayne Boatwright References: Message-ID: Date: 15 Jul 2005 03:16:35 +0200 On Thu 14 Jul 2005 06:05:10p, Bruce Mercer wrote in rec.antiques.radio+phono: > This has probably been answered before but why were radios of the 20's > sold less the tubes? > > Bruce Good question. I didn't know they were. -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* ____________________________________________ Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day. Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0528-4, 07/14/2005 Tested on: 7/14/2005 6:12:19 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Article: 319116 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jwb" Subject: silvertone 8102 radio/wire recorder Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 01:15:31 GMT looking for any info on the floor model. year,how to use wire recorder nay instructionsect. thanks jack Article: 319117 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" Subject: Philco Shadow meter Q: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 01:15:33 GMT I have a philco 18 with the early shadow meter, what kind of voltage drop ACROSS it should I see between tuned on a strong station and detuned? Im seeing nearly nothing and wondering if my problem is in the set and not with the shadowmeter. Thanks, -- Keith Keith Park Top Notch Restorations topnotch@nycap.rr.com Article: 319118 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:16:29 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Why Were Tubes Extra? References: Message-ID: <48680$42d70e73$4232bd6a$14940@COQUI.NET> Wayne Boatwright wrote: > On Thu 14 Jul 2005 06:05:10p, Bruce Mercer wrote in > rec.antiques.radio+phono: > > >>This has probably been answered before but why were radios of the 20's >>sold less the tubes? >> >>Bruce > > > Good question. I didn't know they were. > Tubes were kinda pricy compared to the radio. In the late 20s there was a mad race of upgrading to newer sets and folks simply moved the tubes >from one set to the next where possible. Kinda like computers and monitors these days. -Bill From Please Reply To Group Only Sun Jul 17 12:54:41 EDT 2005 Article: 319119 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Sofa Slug" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Type 81 tube subsitute Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 18:17:25 -0700 Organization: Please Reply To Group Only Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: "Sofa Slug" NNTP-Posting-Host: xxxxxxx.dialup.bol.ucla.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: daisy.noc.ucla.edu 1121390284 30473 169.232.224.00 (15 Jul 2005 01:18:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ucla.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 01:18:04 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319119 "James Hilins" wrote in message = news:p1CBe.7948$9S1.4624@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > This radio has a bunch of bad tubes ! >=20 > one of the two 81's is bad, any subs out there anyone have one the can = > quickly send out ? >=20 > Jim=20 >=20 >=20 You can get a used one here (including shipping) for 10 bucks: http://members.aol.com/etetubes/index.html Article: 319120 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Why Were Tubes Extra? From: Wayne Boatwright References: <48680$42d70e73$4232bd6a$14940@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: 15 Jul 2005 03:29:20 +0200 On Thu 14 Jul 2005 06:16:29p, -ex- wrote in rec.antiques.radio+phono: > Wayne Boatwright wrote: > >> On Thu 14 Jul 2005 06:05:10p, Bruce Mercer wrote in >> rec.antiques.radio+phono: >> >> >>>This has probably been answered before but why were radios of the 20's >>>sold less the tubes? >>> >>>Bruce >> >> >> Good question. I didn't know they were. >> > Tubes were kinda pricy compared to the radio. In the late 20s there was > a mad race of upgrading to newer sets and folks simply moved the tubes > from one set to the next where possible. Kinda like computers and > monitors these days. > > -Bill > Very interesting, and makes sense. I wonder if the older tubes were sturdier than later tubes. We have a farm set that belonged to my grandparents that they purchased in the 1920s. Still has the original tubes and, amazingly, still works. -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* ____________________________________________ Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day. Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0528-4, 07/14/2005 Tested on: 7/14/2005 6:25:04 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Article: 319121 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Supreme model 585 Toob and Diagnometer From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1120737365.674190.226910@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 02:04:06 GMT In article <1120737365.674190.226910@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, electron@grapevine.net says... > > > >Steve Johnson's Supreme page(s) don't list a 585 either. Mr. Douglas's >famed reference ('Tube Testers and Classic Electronic Test Gear') is >void of reference to a 585... > >My 2c- >-Robert >QTS >http://www.Braught.com > Hi Bob and others.... finally took the pictures today of the Supreme 585 Diagnometer.... 4 meters on this on... http://johnjeanantiqueradio.com/supreme.htm Entertaining offers for it.... have 3 people that emailed us from the first posting to the newsgroup... Email to us is k9uwa at arrl dot net John k9uwa Article: 319122 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Type 81 tube subsitute From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 02:07:29 GMT In article , oldradio@wi.rr.com says... > > >This radio has a bunch of bad tubes ! > >one of the two 81's is bad, any subs out there anyone have one the can >quickly send out ? > >Jim > > A 1N4007 Diode from pin 2 to pin 4 will work until you get a tube.. run the radio on a variac as the diode won't have much voltage drop like the 81 tube... John k9uwa Article: 319123 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: UX210 tube From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: <5XEBe.154185$_o.83773@attbi_s71> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 02:11:13 GMT In article , oldradio@wi.rr.com says... > > >Anyone have one of these? (UX210) > >Can you test it and tell me where it tests? >Mine is testing around 60% in a IT-17 heathkit tester, and this tube seems >hard to find. > >Jim > > Thats a really expensive tube there Jim .... you can make up an adapter... 4 pin junk tube base and an octal socket on top... tube to stuff in it is a ruggedized 6L6 .... 16?? maybe 1614 ... never can remember those mil numbers... also a Russian 6L6 will take the 7.5 volt filament.... John k9uwa Article: 319124 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? References: <1121368398.791333.79730@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121391170.864462.75020@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:44:48 -0500 Peter Wieck wrote: > Please excuse me for being a little bit strident on this point... but > if one is appealing _ONLY_ to a specific crowd, then any change in that > crowd will be disproportionately noticeable. If one is looking to > appeal to a (any) CROWD, then like any sports team, multiple options > need be available. Common sense... also a rare and decreasing > commodity. Why do you feel the need to become strident - and then proceed to restate my point? If the collector community is to try to reverse the trend (i.e. decreasing numbers) then they have to appeal to as broad a spectrum of interests as possible, in as many venues as possible - and hope for some "cross pollenization". Years ago - the hobby had enough interest to stand on it's own merits; without needing HAM radio, or other antiques / collectibles to attract interest. Not so today - if the collector community doesn't reach out in earnest - the community will continue to shrink in numbers for the reasons I've pointed out before - and won't belabor here. > GROWL. > > By your own descriptive, the truce became one of necessity. That they > tried to "keep it out of the public eye" may be making a virtue of > necessity, but it sure does smack of Big-Enders vs. Little Enders.... > (Gulliver's Travels). Hey you can growl all you want - but you are guessing, and wrong. As the individuals and circumstances have passed - I'm not going to rehash it here. The people involved were determined to keep it between themselves, and not allow it to tarnish the hobby. In my opinion - they did a pretty good job of that- especially considering some of the more active members (of at least the Birmingham club) didn't know about it. I've only briefly talked with some of the officers of the Huntsville club - but that subject never came up, even with an obvious opportunity to "bad-mouth" had they cared to. My point was, that in spite of the "history" - their realization that the community was shrinking caused them to seek ways to pool their resources to address the problem. Both clubs were (at the time) pretty large clubs, but both were seeing a number of members dying, or unable to participate any longer due to health, etc. In it's last three years this club lost 11 members (out of 100+) in the same way. When you manage the mailing list for the club newsletter, and you keep getting notes from surviving spouses, etc. that the member has passed - you notice these things. The first couple of years the club membership exploded; leveled for about a year - then started a decline. Dues were still being paid; but monthly meetings were difficult to schedule to try to accommodate everyone - someone's kids had ball practice; there were PTA meetings; Lamaze classes, deer season - just one thing then another. Time- there is so little of it in today's world - people have to make choices of what activity(s) is(are) most important to spend what little time they do have. And you know how it goes - when most people get "bit" - they go head over heels. Then things temper out after a while - and other interests start taking more and more time. In an area like this region - there are a LOT of other things to do year 'round. I'm sure it's much the same elsewhere, except maybe winter up north ;>) Which brings me to another point: You ever wonder why it's the same faces behind the scenes at these meets year after year? Some people seem to think that the old farts can't be blasted out of office with a stick of dynamite (and in a few instances, that may be true). But it's more likely that if they don't do it - no one else will. An example is websites. Over the years TenderTale has grown from a small (couple of pages) site to what it is today - several hundred pages with hundreds and hundreds of photos, etc. I can't tell you how many times I've gotten emails telling me what I'm doing wrong, and how they would do it better. Most of the time they think I should include more types of ships than I do (like Destroyer Tenders, or Submarine Rescue Ships, etc.). I "invite" them to do a better site, in fact I even offer to help them; but they have to do the work, and it has to be original (they can't just go rip off TenderTale and similar sites, like Andy Toppan's HazeGray). You know what - nearly ten years later - and there STILL is only one TenderTale, One HazeGray, and one Submarine World Network (Ron Martini's huge submarine site). Why? some people are willing to put forth the effort - most aren't. And running a large complex website - running a club, or some function of a club (like meets) take effort and time - and as I've noted before - time is what most people have the least of these days, and it seems fewer and fewer are willing to put forth the effort required. So while it's easy to criticize the meets you don't like - at least that meet still exists - someone has done a lot of work - for very, very little benefit beyond the love of the hobby. If ya's don't like the way a meet is run - get involved! Please! as always, just my .02 -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319125 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:48:53 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Why Were Tubes Extra? References: <48680$42d70e73$4232bd6a$14940@COQUI.NET> <1121392512.434658.61290@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Avery W3AVE wrote: > Coincidentally, last night I was browsing through a 1933 Allied catalog > and wondering the same thing as Bruce. In every case, however, the > buyer had a choice of buying with or without tubes. > > Maybe there's another explanation beyond moving tubes from one radio to > the next. The copy in the Allied catalog repeatedly addresses those > looking through it as if they were retailers ("upgrade to such and such > a tube and your customers will appreciate your attention to detail," or > whatever). Presumably most retailers also serviced radios and had their > own stock of tubes, perhaps purchased in bulk at a lower price than > Allied could offer, so they could tube up a radio and sell it cheaper > than if they bought it with tubes. > > Does this make sense? > > Avery W3AVE > Potomac, Md. > Even in 1933 there wasn't but a scant few tube 'numbers' to work with. I figure they were hyping different 'brands' rather that different tube types. In those days "rebuilt" tubes were commonly offered at a discount and as we now know most of that activity was simply relabelling of used tubes. You could zap the filament on some of those old directly-heated triodes and the tube would be "like new". -Bill Article: 319126 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:51:30 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: UX210 tube References: <5XEBe.154185$_o.83773@attbi_s71> Message-ID: John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > In article , oldradio@wi.rr.com > says... > >> >>Anyone have one of these? (UX210) >> >>Can you test it and tell me where it tests? >>Mine is testing around 60% in a IT-17 heathkit tester, and this tube seems >>hard to find. >> >>Jim >> >> > > > Thats a really expensive tube there Jim .... you can make up an > adapter... 4 pin junk tube base and an octal socket on top... tube > to stuff in it is a ruggedized 6L6 .... 16?? maybe 1614 ... never > can remember those mil numbers... also a Russian 6L6 will take the > 7.5 volt filament.... > > John k9uwa > I think there's a mil-surp VT-something or other tube that "is" a 10 for old radio purposes. They go relatively cheap. -Bill Article: 319127 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Philco Shadow meter Q: References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:16:34 -0500 Keith Park wrote: > I have a philco 18 with the early shadow meter, what kind of voltage drop > ACROSS it should I see between tuned on a strong station and detuned? IIRC - the 18 has a resistor shunting the shadow meter, so that won't help you. You need to lift a lead to the meter- and measure the meter coil by itself. Normally, in most Philco sets - the RF, Conv and sometimes the IFs B+ comes through the shadow meter, so if the set "works" the shadow meter coil is OK. However, IIRC that the 18 has a resistor shunting the meter you can't count on that, and will have to check the meter with an ohm meter. Usually, the RF/conv/IF B+ through the shadow meter is usually around 10ma. - however - again - since the 18 has a bit different circuit - you'll need to check a schematic to see what stages and what their current is (at AGC bias levels). Most shadow meters were 1000 ohm (usually 1000 ft of 40ga. wire) but again - since the 18 was "different" you'll need to double check that should you need to rewind the coil. Once you've determined where the problem is (open coil, open resistor, defective AGC, or whatever) fixing it is pretty straight forward - though if you find you need to adjust the shadow meter - there are articles available to help you learn. best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319128 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:30:46 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? References: <1121368398.791333.79730@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121391170.864462.75020@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <189ec$42d72dea$4232bd6a$18981@COQUI.NET> Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote: > > In it's last three years this club lost 11 members (out of 100+) in the > same way. When you manage the mailing list for the club newsletter, > and you keep getting notes from surviving spouses, etc. that the member > has passed - you notice these things. The first couple of years the > club membership exploded; leveled for about a year - then started a > decline. Dues were still being paid; but monthly meetings were difficult > to schedule to try to accommodate everyone - someone's kids had ball > practice; there were PTA meetings; Lamaze classes, deer season - just > one thing then another. I've been active with two clubs (ham) in the past...in the 70s and early 80s...and this was the state of both of them at that time. I have no idea if either of them are still going - I suspect they are. They might not have grown any but they didn't grow much beyond the original enthusiastic core anyway. I don't see the death knell of the hobby...at least not any worse than it ever was. I faded out of clubs for the very reasons you state and doubt I'll ever go back to chairing stuff like buying kegs for field day or trusteeing for the club/repeater license or sorting QSLs at the Buro. (I was the K4/W4/N4-J sorter for many years). > And you know how it goes - when most people get "bit" - they go head > over heels. Then things temper out after a while - and other interests > start taking more and more time. In an area like this region - there are > a LOT of other things to do year 'round. I'm sure it's much the same > elsewhere, except maybe winter up north ;>) > > Which brings me to another point: You ever wonder why it's the same > faces behind the scenes at these meets year after year? Some people seem > to think that the old farts can't be blasted out of office with a stick > of dynamite (and in a few instances, that may be true). But it's more > likely that if they don't do it - no one else will. Aha! Thats how I got rooked into "chairing stuff like...." There's always a patsy and I was a newcomer at the time. One thing many "clubs" don't want to admit is that sometimes they simply aren't any fun or interesting. Maybe their old "leadership" bungles all the events and aren't willing to change. Maybe there's a bunch of obnoxious bigmouths at every meeting. Maybe there's a "inner-circle clubbish attitude". This does more to kill off participation than anything else. Much like our little group here, huh? The future participants are still out there but some clubs, many clubs, won't be able to attract them. -Bill Article: 319129 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42D72EE6.C1121015@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Cool !!! References: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 23:35:02 -0400 Thank god for my basement, heated in the winter, air conditioned in the summer. Now if I can just organize my basement..... Sal Brisindi Benjamaniac wrote: > And it really is cool...now. After having my shop being hotter than > the hubs of hell all summer so far...I finally bought an air conditioner for > it. This is nice. Now maybe I can spend more that just an hour or so at a > shot out here at a time. Now the old shop is complete with heat, air > conditioning, phone, cable TV and internet access. Maybe I should just move > in out here ?? Nah...I don't have a fridge yet for the iced tea. > Ben Article: 319130 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:41:39 -0600 Message-ID: References: if you are asking me, yes. i think you would. i think the 'proper' way to do it is to engineer the data file directly to produce the desired output. not capture it. static signals like color bars are probably less suceptable to this. ones like bandwidth bars at x mhz are probably significantly off. again. im guessing. randy > Hi Randy, > > I suspect you are correct. But you wouldn't you have the same or worse > problem encoding a composite signal from an NTSC test generator? I have a > feeling you will never achieve truly accurate calibration signals using > DVD > as the delivery method, but for a simple thing like color bars or dot/ > crosshatch patterns I think you would be ok. > > Mark > > "xrongor" wrote in message > news:db4161$5lrh$1@news3.infoave.net... > >> i dont think its that easy. i dont think you can count on the mpeg > encoder >> to encode the file in such a way that the specific attribute being > stressed >> or calibrated would come out exactly as it should. >> >> but i could be wrong. >> >> randy > > Article: 319131 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <3jifk9Fq84jhU1@individual.net> Subject: Re: Specifications for old Zenith plug-in transistors? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 03:43:51 GMT "Mike Trudeau" wrote in message news:JMWdnSPc8Ne2s0rfRVn-1A@adelphia.com... > >I posted a chart some time ago at this site > http://www.transoceanic.nostalgiaair.org/Technical.htm > take a look, found it in some old Zenith literature I had. Mike > Trudeau > Thanks Mike, that's probably the one Jim Barnard was looking for! jim menning Article: 319132 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 21:46:14 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message news:alvBe.73796$ho.18822@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > No offense meant to any of the previous posters on this thread - but I > find it humorous to see "NTSC" and "accurate" in the same sentence. > > I don't think DVD encoding is going to do anymore harm to an NTSC signal > than putting it over the air (or over a cable system, for that matter). > > There is a reason most of us refer to it as "Never The Same Color"... > > just musing... i think you are right. i was in more of a modern mindset when i first replied to this thread. for the types of tv's that this group is geared to, the concept of calibration is probably a little less rigid than for a newer high def tv with digital inputs randy Article: 319133 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: My next big purchase! Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 22:50:56 -0500 Message-ID: References: <11d5d8ogdh3cqcf@corp.supernews.com> <1121133496.583728.240320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1121327726.287037.97550@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 14 Jul 2005 00:55:26 -0700 "Jeff" wrote: > I would be wary of using zip cord or any kind of unshielded cable for >speaker cables, let alone interconnecting cables between equipment. While there's no harm in using shielded cable everywhere, there's really no need for it in high level circuits like the speaker outputs. For low level signals it's important because noise pickup might be a significant fraction of the signal, but once the signal is close to a volt you'll never hear those microvolts of hum. Spending your money on stuff like this just labels you as an easy mark. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 319134 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: 1625 Tubes References: <5gBBe.17172$tX6.389601@twister1.libero.it> Message-ID: <_0HBe.8170$8f7.5456@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 04:34:02 GMT Daniele wrote: > ..this says #77-WFSCPD-42 This tube was purchased as a spare for a mid-war run of SCR-274N aircraft transmitters under Signal Corps Procurement order number 77-WF-42. Nearly every U.S. heavy aircraft/bomber carried these transmitters, and they were widely installed in many other types of aircraft. They were also occasionally used in unorthodox settings; I have documentation of an entire unit of coastal "rescue" boats equipped with them and photos of them being used in airport control towers. You can see a photo of a complete, operational SCR-274N set I built for a special events station at: http://home.mindspring.com/~arc5@ix.netcom.com/274ndisp.jpg The two transmitters are on top. They came with black, wrinkle paint or in bare aluminium. The 77-WF-42 sets were the unpainted variety. The aircraft in the background is a B-17 Bomber. Regards, David S. Article: 319135 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stein-Olav Lund Subject: Re: GAS measurement on TV-7B/U Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 08:00:03 +0200 Message-ID: <42D750E3.2030601@iet.hist.no> References: <1121388330.447163.167840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > 1. Do they work in-circuit? > 2. Do they display any odd colors when "lit". > > Yes/No, they are fine. > > Yes/Yes, watch out. > No/Yes, toss them. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > I know, I will test them when a suitable amp is on the repair table. Any comments on the _almost zero_ gas reading on the Russian tubes? (tested three NOS western Europeans and two Russian tubes) Regards Stein Article: 319136 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 02:33:00 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: GAS measurement on TV-7B/U References: <1121388330.447163.167840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <42D750E3.2030601@iet.hist.no> Message-ID: Stein-Olav Lund wrote: > > > Peter Wieck wrote: > >> 1. Do they work in-circuit? >> 2. Do they display any odd colors when "lit". >> >> Yes/No, they are fine. >> >> Yes/Yes, watch out. >> No/Yes, toss them. >> >> Peter Wieck >> Wyncote, PA Thanks Steven. This is another piece of filter-busting inanity dribble that will be forwarded to srvinet to get you cancelled. -ex Article: 319137 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: My next big purchase! Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 00:35:03 -0600 Message-ID: References: <11d5d8ogdh3cqcf@corp.supernews.com> <1121133496.583728.240320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1121327726.287037.97550@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> cerwin vega makes the top of the line speakers? maybe at K-mart... and they cant handle loud rock music (yet are somehow top of the line)? you're just making this up. please source this.... "hardly a true audiophile's way of doing it; far, far from it." ill take that as a compliment. randy "Jeff" wrote in message news:1121327726.287037.97550@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I would be wary of using zip cord or any kind of unshielded cable for > speaker cables, let alone interconnecting cables between equipment. If > you have a strong local AM radio station nearby these cables could act > as antennas, feeding the signal directly into your amplifier (many > tube-powered amplifiers can and often will demodulate very strong AM > signals). In addition, unshielded cables are an open invitation to hum, > electric motor hash, etc. which would be fed directly into your > amplifier and make the most goshawful noises anyone ever heard. I'd > play it safe and use nothing but shielded cable throughout any hi-fi > system. My own high-fidelity installation is interconnected with only > shielded cables, one of which is in fact a 12-foot Monster Cable > between my digital cable box and the aux inputs of my stereo system (a > 200-total-watt bookshelf system). Never once have I had any problems > whatsoever with hum, noise, AM broadcast interference or anything else > (unless the RCA phono plugs at the ends of the cables come loose from > the jacks to which they are connected; I've had problems with my system > which were directly traceable to these loose plugs). I wouldn't dream > of using lamp cord for anything audio these days. No shielding, and > besides, these cords were never intended for audio use, although some > people will use zip cord to hastily hook up a stereo system, if nothing > else is available or they are in a hurry to get the system going, or if > they don't know any better. The system might and probably will work > after having the speakers, etc. haywired together like that, but it's > hardly a true audiophile's way of doing it; far, far from it. > > BTW, I've never heard of Kimber audio cables until now, but it sounds > like they are doing a creditable job in your audio system. I am also > not familiar at all with the speakers you're using (until I read your > post I had never heard of Sonab speaker systems, though I have heard of > the other speakers you mention). Cerwin-Vega is top-of-the-line as far > as speaker systems go; Infinity systems aren't half bad either. The > only thing I'd watch with Cerwin Vega speakers is not to overdrive > them; I read somewhere (in another audio forum) that these systems are > very sensitive to overloads. In other words, they are good for > listening to classical music and/or other material that doesn't contain > sustained loud passages, but CVs were never intended for reproduction > of such types of music as hard rock, much if not most of which is > really loud. I read that this kind of music will kill the voice coils > in CV woofers in no time flat, especially at high volume levels. > Article: 319138 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: My next big purchase! Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 00:53:49 -0600 Message-ID: References: <11d5d8ogdh3cqcf@corp.supernews.com> <1121133496.583728.240320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1121327726.287037.97550@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> > How old are you? You obviously don't have a clue about the history of > Cerwin > Vega, which was based on pro sound monitors that could play at head > exploding levels. The entire basis of their product philosophy is that > their > speakers can play loud as hell. One of their slogans is "Shake the living, > wake the dead". exactly. >from my experiences, CV has a 'religious' following similiar to BOSE, although CV is much better than BOSE... randy Article: 319139 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 00:06:58 -0700 Message-ID: References: Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote: > No offense meant to any of the previous posters on this thread - but I > find it humorous to see "NTSC" and "accurate" in the same sentence. > > I don't think DVD encoding is going to do anymore harm to an NTSC signal > than putting it over the air (or over a cable system, for that matter). > > There is a reason most of us refer to it as "Never The Same Color"... > > just musing... The DVD authoring software that I use has a feature that allows you to take a jpeg image and convert it into a six-second video which can then be looped over and over to give the effect of a still image on the screen. I tried this with a number of test patterns including the classic Indian head pattern and B&K TV analyst slides. The displayed images were far better quality than the output of any vintage test pattern-generating gear I have seen. Keep in mind that this Disc that Brenda is creating is most likely going to be used for calibration of vintage TVs. In that role, the resolution of the DVD as a video source is probably going to be at least couple of notches better than any TV it's hooked up to. As long as the video is captured from the pattern generator properly and is encoded appropriately to avoid artifacts, The DVD should work just fine as a test signal generator. -Scott Article: 319140 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:37:16 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:db7mtm02d9u@news2.newsguy.com... > Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote: > > The DVD authoring software that I use has a feature that allows you to > take a jpeg image and convert it into a six-second video which can then > be looped over and over to give the effect of a still image on the > screen. I tried this with a number of test patterns including the > classic Indian head pattern and B&K TV analyst slides. The displayed > images were far better quality than the output of any vintage test > pattern-generating gear I have seen. > > Keep in mind that this Disc that Brenda is creating is most likely going > to be used for calibration of vintage TVs. In that role, the resolution > of the DVD as a video source is probably going to be at least couple of > notches better than any TV it's hooked up to. As long as the video is > captured from the pattern generator properly and is encoded > appropriately to avoid artifacts, The DVD should work just fine as a > test signal generator. > I used my late model B+K NTSC generator. Went directly from the 75 ohm output to the DVD recorder input. I also used the highest quality recording stream (HQ= 1 hour per disc) to make the master disc. I then made an ISO master from that to use to make all the new discs, so there will be virtually no generational loss. Article: 319141 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter Grabarczyk Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:12:33 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > In Carter Grabarczyk writes: > > >>P.S. If you are not actually going to swaps or club meetings, it would >>seem that you are in somewhat of a vacuum and would have no information >>to base your comments on, one way or the other. > > > My point was that attendance at meets is not the only way to measure > the vitality of a hobby. > Agreed... not the *only* way to measure, but certainly the swaps are at least a semi-reliable "real world" indicator. When the swaps and clubs are 90-95% graybeards and shrinking, can the rest of the world be *that* different? 73, Carter K8VT Article: 319142 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HiTech RedNeck" Subject: Rugged speaker grille material Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:40:37 GMT Quite by accident I came across a cloth that looks like it would be promising for speaker grilles that need to be durable. http://www.fabricdepot.com/Catalog.aspx?ItemKey=5515 This is "pet screen" which is supposed to be 7 times stronger than ordinary screen. It's a plastic coated polyester mesh. This looks like it might actually be catproof. I've ordered a yard of the beige color and will see how well it works in a 4-cat household. From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Sun Jul 17 12:54:46 EDT 2005 Article: 319143 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: <5XEBe.154185$_o.83773@attbi_s71> <1121397828.344256.17740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: UX210 tube Lines: 6 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:44:20 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.6.126 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1121427860 67.53.6.126 (Fri, 15 Jul 2005 06:44:20 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 06:44:20 CDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.glorb.com!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!newsfeed-west.nntpserver.com!news-west.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319143 Anyone have a wiring diagram on how to wire a 6L6 into a 4 pin base to make this work as a #10? Jim Article: 319144 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "CHIP TAYLOR" References: <1121368398.791333.79730@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 12:27:56 GMT Amen Brother!!! I've been relaying to local radio groups for years that they need to interact with the "common folk" to get the radio collecting bug across, albeit in a subtle way. I can testify from personal experience that some small radio meets are simply run for personal motives as a way to find more sets for their collections vs. "Spreading the Word" about radio collecting and/or the history of radio. Congrats, Peter you said it well! Chip Taylor Sarasota, FL "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1121368398.791333.79730@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Funny thing about this discussion. Most every point is "true" as far as > it goes. > > True: > The radio-pioneers, those who worked for Philco or Zenith or Emerson or > RCA in the glory days are nearing their expiration date about now, if > not already gone. These are the people whose livelihood, passion and > identity revolved around tube equipment and radios. > > Similarly, those who were in the military during the heyday of tube > equipment (through the earliest days of Vietnam) and whose lives may > have depended on the radio operator able to make repairs on the fly > with whatever was at hand. > > A goodly portion of those 300,000,000 radios made during the glory > years have survived. The internet and perceived demand has brought them > out of hiding. So previously rare radios are now fairly common. > > Audio Equipment, a natural progression for radio people has evolved > beyond anything other than 'use'. Kits are nearly a lost-art, nearly as > expensive as built-up versions of the same thing, that is no longer > entry-level items. Kits were often an avenue for individuals to get > bitten by the bug. > > Store-front repair shops are dropping like Mayflies. Once upon a time a > ready source of marginal equipment for the amateur fixer-upper. > > False: > The demand for quality radios in restorable condition is dropping. It > isn't. At all. > Attendance at swap-meets and clubs is dropping off. It isn't either. > BUT WITH THESE QUALIFICATIONS: > > Mutual admiration societies die of necessity. They tend to have closed > ranks and see themselves as keepers of the flame. They are disdainful > of people who are dabblers as opposed to "true-believers". That one > such society would not interact with another such society even with > similar reasons for existence and interests is typical. > > Clubs that reach out to the general public, design programs that > involve the general public, try to be inclusive rather than exclusive, > take the time to "set up" in Public Libraries, local historical > societies, local museums and similar tend to survive and thrive. Does > your club make Press Releases for its events? > > There is no interest in vintage equipment anymore amongst the > instant-gratification set. There is lots of interest, but to actually > 'hook' them, there has to be a level of interactivity. For those who > will take the time to load an IPod, it is only a small step to using it > to run something vintage. Both the kids have IPods, one even has the > Bose "dock" for said device. However, both of them chose to set it up > for their vintage stereos, one each tube and early solid-state. One of > the two actually has learned a great deal about troubleshooting and > servicing. My grandchild of 22 months listens to classical music on a > mini boom-box in her room via a small FM transmitter. That I am able to > point them down the enlightened path is one thing. But that they took > it without prodding is the point. > > We need to stop bemoaning the natural evolution of any hobby, > especially one that requires interactivity and skills that are no > longer common. We need to reach out on subtle levels to those who might > become interested by exposure. How many of you have active vintage > radios or similar in your offices or workplaces? How many of you have > offered to provide equipment for theatrical companies, churches, clubs > and other groups should there be a need? "Vintage equipment provided > through the Delaware Valley Historic Radio Club".... you get the point. > > Kutztown started small. VERY small. And it had its ups-and-downs. But > it was NEVER exclusive. NEVER charged an admission, NEVER patronized > anyone, and ALWAYS remembered that the purpose was a good time. It also > took care to be in a venue where other interests would also be met at > the same time, thereby becoming a potential family event. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 319145 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Cool !!! Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 13:20:18 GMT My "shop" area consists of a spare bedroom and a bench in the garage. Naturally the bedroom is air conditioned, but the garage is not. Still, it's quite comfortable, at least in my opinion, to open the garage door, open the side door, and turn on the ceiling fan in the garage. The single biggest problem I have is that it's the rainy season and my "paint booth" is outside. Whenever I strip down a car radio for conversion, I clean off the metal case pieces and spray them with a silver hammertone finish to make it look professional. I give it one day to dry, then begin assembly. This time of year I need to make sure I have radios painted and drying BEFORE the afternoon showers come. In an emergency I can set up a place inside the garage for painting, but it's far better to do it outside. By the same token, when using wrinkle paint I typically use a hair dryer to keep the pieces hot. I've found that when the sun is shining I can simply leave the pieces on a shelf and they will wrinkle by themselves. I can see some sort of joke forming . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Benjamaniac" wrote in message news:db71rg$792k$1@news3.infoave.net... > And it really is cool...now. After having my shop being hotter > than the hubs of hell all summer so far...I finally bought an air > conditioner for it. This is nice. Now maybe I can spend more that just an > hour or so at a shot out here at a time. Now the old shop is complete with > heat, air conditioning, phone, cable TV and internet access. Maybe I > should just move in out here ?? Nah...I don't have a fridge yet for the > iced tea. > Ben > Article: 319146 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." References: Subject: Re: Jackson 648 Tube Tester Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:02:26 GMT You sure it doesn't have a gas test? It has a "gas" region on the meter.... "Dennis Daly" wrote in message news:aZCBe.43530$0i3.40578@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > "Chris F." wrote in message > news:jIBBe.61221$Ph4.1834338@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > > I recently picked one of these up at a flea market, not sure which > version > > it is but the roll chart is on the bottom and there are two rows of > > pushbuttons. Also has a gas test. There are a couple of things I'd like to > > know; is this a decent machine? I'm not sure if it's a mutual conductance > > type or not. > > Also, where can I find the supplemental test data for this unit? > > Thanks. > > > > > Hi- > > The Jackson 648 models are what are known as "Dynamic Emissions" testers. > No gas tests, but good leakage (shorts) testing, compared to many of the > "run-of-mill" Hickok models. > It is said that they are near top-of-the-line for their class of tube > tester. I like my 648S, for what it is, as much as my Hickoks. > Jim Cross is selling his book he authored on the 648 tester models. > I bought a copy. I think it would be the best complete data resource if you > intend to make your model 648 a primary instrument for tube testing. > > http://www.vacuumtubesinc.com/648.html > > OK- Shamless plug for Jim. > > Den > > Article: 319147 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42D7C89C.2A5CFF8C@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Cool !!! References: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 14:31:10 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > > My "shop" area consists of a spare bedroom and a bench in the garage. > Naturally the bedroom is air conditioned, but the garage is not. Still, > it's quite comfortable, at least in my opinion, to open the garage door, > open the side door, and turn on the ceiling fan in the garage. > > The single biggest problem I have is that it's the rainy season and my > "paint booth" is outside. Whenever I strip down a car radio for conversion, > I clean off the metal case pieces and spray them with a silver hammertone > finish to make it look professional. I give it one day to dry, then begin > assembly. This time of year I need to make sure I have radios painted and > drying BEFORE the afternoon showers come. In an emergency I can set up a > place inside the garage for painting, but it's far better to do it outside. > > By the same token, when using wrinkle paint I typically use a hair dryer to > keep the pieces hot. I've found that when the sun is shining I can simply > leave the pieces on a shelf and they will wrinkle by themselves. I can see > some sort of joke forming . . . > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical If you have room in your garage you might look at adding this to your shop. http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=46300 Powder Coat Oven with an 18" * 18" * 18" interior and adjustable temperature to bake the paint on the metal parts, or to preheat them before painting. -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 319148 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: UX210 tube From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <5XEBe.154185$_o.83773@attbi_s71> <1121397828.344256.17740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <%iQBe.177910$nG6.19424@attbi_s22> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:07:39 GMT In article , oldradio@wi.rr.com says... > > >Anyone have a wiring diagram on how to wire a 6L6 into a 4 pin base to make >this work as a #10? > >Jim > > You just wire the screen grid and plate together and they become your pin #2 plate.... then U wire the Cathode pin 8 to the filament pin one or 4 on the 4 pin tube base...... the input grid pin 5 of the 6L6 is pin 3 on the 4 pin base... not sure on the suppressor grid.... maybe it should be wired to the cathode of 6L6... in the past I bought a few of Bill's adapters ... too lazy to make them myself!... but that pair of Mil tubes listed in the auction.... suggest that U grab them if they don't go too high... >from the questions at the end of the auction and the counter would bet that he sees some pretty good sniping at the end of the game... just don't try it with a regular 6L6 as it won't take the 7.5 volts.. I do have a box around here someplace of about 20 brand new russian tubes.... got them same time as Bill T did... actually I ordered them and split the order with Bill... think the tubes were in the 5 buck per tube area..... but the shipping from Rusky Land raised that a bit.. John k9uwa Article: 319149 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Supreme model 585 Toob and Diagnometer From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1121428788.360532.207290@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <9nQBe.177583$xm3.138297@attbi_s21> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 15:12:05 GMT In article <1121428788.360532.207290@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, electron@grapevine.net says... > > > > >-Robert WB0IWO > >> >> Email to us is k9uwa at arrl dot net >> >> John k9uwa > Hi Bob ... have to go "Preview" an Auction.. when I get back will open up the tester and see if it is in good condition inside etc... John Article: 319150 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: Cool !!! Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 09:50:39 -0600 Message-ID: References: > It gets hot in Montana?????? Warren It gets hotter than Hades here during the months of July and August. Temps well over 100 are common...and it stays that way for weeks on end. I'm just glad we don't have to deal with the humidity that some of you guys in those wetter places have to put up with. Ben Article: 319151 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: <2HjBe.53441$qm.14825@bignews5.bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: 1625 Tubes Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 16:31:22 GMT Daniele wrote: > I can understand, the best i can do is 30.00 USD for 5 tubes > shipping by registered mail included, takes about 5 to 10 days. ...damn outlook express... Article: 319152 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <5XEBe.154185$_o.83773@attbi_s71> <1121397828.344256.17740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <%iQBe.177910$nG6.19424@attbi_s22> Subject: Re: UX210 tube Message-ID: <1121446267.2aa52ce2789d40823409fe803cbf0cbe@teranews> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 11:51:02 -0500 6L6 is a beam pentode, doesn't really have a suppressor. The beam-forming plates are connected internally to the cathode so no need to worry about it. In a nutshell: 6L6 pin 2 to "10" pin 1 6L6 pins 3+4 to "10" pin 2 6L6 pin 5 to "10" pin 3 6L6 pin 7+8 to "10" pin 4 A regular 6L6 might be short-lived in a 7.5V socket; you could take the trouble to insert a resistor in series with the heater (1 ohm, 3 watts should work) or the more durable 6L6 referenced below. -paul "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:%iQBe.177910$nG6.19424@attbi_s22... > In article , oldradio@wi.rr.com > says... > > > > > >Anyone have a wiring diagram on how to wire a 6L6 into > > > >this work as a #10? > > > >Jim > > > You just wire the screen grid and plate together and they become your pin > #2 plate.... then U wire the Cathode pin 8 to the filament pin one or 4 on > the 4 pin tube base...... the input grid pin 5 of the 6L6 is pin 3 on the > 4 pin base... not sure on the suppressor grid.... maybe it should be wired > to the cathode of 6L6... in the past I bought a few of Bill's adapters > ... too lazy to make them myself!... > > > but that pair of Mil tubes listed > in the auction.... suggest that U grab them if they don't go too high... > from the questions at the end of the auction and the counter would bet > that he sees some pretty good sniping at the end of the game... > > just don't try it with a regular 6L6 as it won't take the 7.5 volts.. > I do have a box around here someplace of about 20 brand new russian > tubes.... got them same time as Bill T did... actually I ordered them > and split the order with Bill... think the tubes were in the 5 buck > per tube area..... but the shipping from Rusky Land raised that a > bit.. > > John k9uwa > Article: 319153 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "BobALoo" Subject: Old TV Cabinet, New Electronics? Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 12:52:38 -0500 Message-ID: Is there a way of putting a new television electronics, circuitry, pic tube inside of an older 60's/50's looking cabinet? Is this being done somewhere already? It would be nice for that nostalgic look to have an older looking tv cabinet, but modern electronics inside. Thanks. Article: 319154 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Old TV Cabinet, New Electronics? References: <1121454543.611947.31840@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 19:16:22 GMT walterk wrote: > I understand the dilemma. My parents have a 40 YO > console that we used when I was a kid. It is still > in their living room. In the late 50s, my dad bought a new TV set to replace the old one. The empty cabinet ended up in the garage up on the shelf over the work bench. When I asked him why it was STILL there 25 years later he replied, "We paid GOOD money for that." Ahhhhh.....parents that grew up in the depression. Got'ta love 'em. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319155 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Old TV Cabinet, New Electronics? References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:28:03 +0200 BobALoo wrote: > Is there a way of putting a new television electronics, circuitry, pic tube > inside of an older 60's/50's looking cabinet? Is this being done somewhere > already? > It would be nice for that nostalgic look to have an older looking tv > cabinet, but modern electronics inside. First of all, I'd like to see old sets that are restorable actually restored. Also, they just might increase in value over the years, more so than an old cabinet with modern chassis. In case your set is a real junker (sell the guts on e-bay ;-) or just an empty cabinet: The biggest problem is the tube. The original tube might low on emissions and won't be electrically compatible with the new chassis anyway. Newer tubes are almost always more flat than old ones and have different mounting points. You would have to make an adaptor of some sort. The controls should be easier, just glue on the old knobs (if they are still present) and mount the IR receiver someplace nice. --- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 319156 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Old TV Cabinet, New Electronics? References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 20:00:29 GMT > anyway. Newer tubes are almost always more flat than old ones and have > different mounting points. You would have to make an adaptor of some > sort. The controls should be easier, just glue on the old knobs (if they > are still present) and mount the IR receiver someplace nice. > If you can find rotary momentary contact switches (big if) with contacts for clockwise and another set of contacts for counterclockwise, wire them up for channel up and channel down. Mount this switch where the channel knob goes. Same for the volume control. Article: 319157 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Old TV Cabinet, New Electronics? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:09:32 GMT "BobALoo" wrote in message news:db8t540hb@enews1.newsguy.com... > Is there a way of putting a new television electronics, circuitry, > pic tube inside of an older 60's/50's looking cabinet? Is this > being done somewhere already? > > It would be nice for that nostalgic look to have an older looking tv > cabinet, but modern electronics inside. > Just get one of these space age Predicta wannabes: http://www.polyconceptusa.com/showproduct.asp?key=241 jim menning Article: 319158 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dkw@ofir.dk (Hans Henrik Pedersen) Subject: Strange record label Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:12:39 GMT Message-ID: <42d82663.726654@news.inet.tele.dk> A friend of mine have sent me a scan of a record and asked me to identify it. I must give up. Can anyone of you guys help? http://home6.inet.tele.dk/pedipsen/Audio/unknown.JPG Yours Hans Henrik Pedersen. Article: 319159 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:54:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In Carter Grabarczyk writes: >Agreed... not the *only* way to measure, but certainly the swaps are at >least a semi-reliable "real world" indicator. When the swaps and clubs >are 90-95% graybeards and shrinking, can the rest of the world be *that* >different? Interesting question. I wonder if what's really happening is that the phenomenon of clubs in general is dying? In generations past membership in a social club was an important part of good standing in the community. This appears much less so today. Perhaps, with more diverse opportunities to participate in one's interest the local get-together has simply become less pressing. This is just wild speculation. I really have no way to know if the wind's blowing one way or the other. Might make a good paper for a sociology student. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 319160 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Hagman" Subject: Re: Kutztown September 16-17 Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:59:42 -0400 Message-ID: <11dgcehr4p7am52@corp.supernews.com> References: <1121093359.674295.133190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Keith Park" ... > Ill be there, check, I may buy a small trailer for the VW just to haul stuff KEITH, why don't you have a Microbus yet ? Currently this is the coolest hippie vehicle around (1973 camper), again that is.... John H. Article: 319161 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Frank K." Subject: help with Airline movie-dial plz? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:09:28 -0500 I have an AIRLINE MODEL 62-277 teledial, with the deco grille work broken out. Does anyone have a parts set, cabinet, or a tracing of the cut-out so I could make one? MANY THANKS!! frank in OKC Article: 319162 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "arne thormodsen" References: <42d82663.726654@news.inet.tele.dk> Subject: Re: Strange record label Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:24:24 GMT "Hans Henrik Pedersen" wrote in message news:42d82663.726654@news.inet.tele.dk... >A friend of mine have sent me a scan of a record and asked me to > identify it. I must give up. Can anyone of you guys help? > http://home6.inet.tele.dk/pedipsen/Audio/unknown.JPG > Yours Hans Henrik Pedersen. I'm guessing it's in Georgian: http://www.krysstal.com/writing_georgian.html I don't know anything about the language, but I used to work in SW Internationalization and I've seen a lot of different character sets. --arne Article: 319163 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: GAS measurement on TV-7B/U References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:40:14 GMT What you can do is to measure the bias voltage on the grid in the amp. Use a meter that has a 10 meg or higher input resistance. You can even use a series resistance with the probe equal to the meter's resistance and halve the reading. This will minimize the meter upsetting the circuit. I have a Sencore Dmm 36 that has a X2 switch built into the probe for that reason. You will monitor the negative voltage as the tube warms up. If there is gas or grid current the bias voltage will drift more positive. You must have a new(good quality) cap that is coupling the signal to the grid for this to be a valid test. Sencore made a line of GCT and Ls testers that would find even the slightest amount of grid leakage. They were made mainly for TV RF and IF tubes but cab be adapted fro audio tubes. Stein-Olav Lund wrote: > I was measuring a couple old EL84 tubes yesterday evening. > They were slightly above the recommended minimum, which is 50 on a TV7 > (according to Norman Lee's data) > I wanted then to measure if they were gassy, I increased the bias till > the meter went down to 10 and depressed the 'GAS2' button too. > The meter deflected a little more (about 5 more). Gassy? > Well, I then took out several other EL84's, a couple NOS Siemens and a > Philips, and a couple new Russian 6P14P's. > All (except the Russians!) showed similar behaviour. > The 6P14P and 6P14P-ER(longlife) tubes had NO increase in anode current > when pressing the 'GAS2' button. Do the Russians have that much better > vacuum, or is there another explanation? > > Stein, LA9QV > Article: 319164 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 18:03:15 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:db7sib$6ug$1@news2.kornet.net... > > "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message > news:db7mtm02d9u@news2.newsguy.com... >> Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote: >> >> The DVD authoring software that I use has a feature that allows you to >> take a jpeg image and convert it into a six-second video which can then >> be looped over and over to give the effect of a still image on the >> screen. I tried this with a number of test patterns including the >> classic Indian head pattern and B&K TV analyst slides. The displayed >> images were far better quality than the output of any vintage test >> pattern-generating gear I have seen. >> >> Keep in mind that this Disc that Brenda is creating is most likely going >> to be used for calibration of vintage TVs. In that role, the resolution >> of the DVD as a video source is probably going to be at least couple of >> notches better than any TV it's hooked up to. As long as the video is >> captured from the pattern generator properly and is encoded >> appropriately to avoid artifacts, The DVD should work just fine as a >> test signal generator. >> > > > I used my late model B+K NTSC generator. Went directly from the 75 ohm > output to the DVD recorder input. I also used the highest quality > recording > stream (HQ= 1 hour per disc) to make the master disc. I then made an ISO > master from that to use to make all the new discs, so there will be > virtually no generational loss. the issue isnt 'generational' loss. its the simple fact that putting any signal onto a dvd using standard dvd encoding, involves a LOSSY compression. i.e. the compression itself alters the signal. this cannot be avoided unless you encode the signal with a lossless compression algorhythm. but as was stated. for the purposes of this disc, it probably doesnt matter. particularly with still images. and using the highest quality stream will help. randy From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Sun Jul 17 12:54:51 EDT 2005 Article: 319165 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: street price for NOS WE 300B? Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:33:06 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <11dgle4pf2npb27@corp.supernews.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 6 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319165 What is the ball park estimate for an NOS WE 300B tube? Thanks, David Article: 319166 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: street price for NOS WE 300B? References: <11dgle4pf2npb27@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:40:18 GMT This might give you an idea http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5785937602&category=73381&rd=1 David Axt wrote: > What is the ball park estimate for an NOS WE 300B tube? > > Thanks, > David > > Article: 319167 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:45:48 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "xrongor" writes: >the issue isnt 'generational' loss. its the simple fact that putting any >signal onto a dvd using standard dvd encoding, involves a LOSSY compression. >i.e. the compression itself alters the signal. this cannot be avoided >unless you encode the signal with a lossless compression algorhythm. I don't think DVD's work quite that way. The goal is to keep below a certain rate of information per unit time. This lets you have a lot of detail so long as it doesn't change rapidly, i.e. a still frame. If you have fast motion you're going to have to throw something out to keep within the bandwidth. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- From adouglasatgis.net Sun Jul 17 12:54:51 EDT 2005 Article: 319168 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Why Were Tubes Extra? Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 20:35:16 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <48680$42d70e73$4232bd6a$14940@COQUI.NET> <1121392512.434658.61290@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-742.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!news2.wam.umd.edu!ra.nrl.navy.mil!chiapp19.algx.com!dca1-feed1.news.algx.net!allegiance!pln-e!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news3 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319168 Hi, Besides some of the reasons already noted: Tubes were accessories, no different from speakers, batteries, or the antenna and ground installations necessary for a working radio. The dealer gathered and sold the parts at a profit. (A radio "set" was originally a "set of parts" to make a radio receiver.) Tubes were also too fragile to be shipped in the sockets. And the manufacturer paid royalty to RCA based on the final selling price (yes, including the cabinet, although RCA obviously had no cabinet patents. Philco fought that battle and won in 1939) so it was advantageous to keep the price as low as possible. Alan Article: 319169 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "JOE" References: <1121349712.416598.175320@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FA: Audio-phools dream Message-ID: <1121475475.23001c80573cb29eb073487b0afca721@meganetnews2> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 17:57:52 -0700 > so how many of you guys are contributing to the number of people watching > the auction? Looks like 8. Bid still $1 Effect? you decide... Article: 319170 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:10:49 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Watzit? Message-ID: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> What is this thing? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5789704046 Article: 319171 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Watzit? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 21:17:31 -0400 Hearing aid tester?? Pete "-ex-" wrote in message news:86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET... > What is this thing? > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5789704046 Article: 319172 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Watzit? Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 01:18:13 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> In <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> -ex- writes: >What is this thing? >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5789704046 One of the earliest known black boxes. :) PA system? Although why the speaker on the side, I don't know. You'd think it'd be prone to acoustic feedback. It sure doesn't look like it'd handle anything other than AF, though. And I'd guess it's home brew. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 319173 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 19:59:27 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:db9lbr$9bl$1@reader2.panix.com... > In "xrongor" > writes: > >>the issue isnt 'generational' loss. its the simple fact that putting any >>signal onto a dvd using standard dvd encoding, involves a LOSSY >>compression. >>i.e. the compression itself alters the signal. this cannot be avoided >>unless you encode the signal with a lossless compression algorhythm. > > I don't think DVD's work quite that way. The goal is to keep below > a certain rate of information per unit time. This lets you have a lot > of detail so long as it doesn't change rapidly, i.e. a still frame. > If you have fast motion you're going to have to throw something out > to keep within the bandwidth. they dont use lossy compression? sure they do. mpeg1 or 2 as called for by the dvd video specification. the bandwidth bottleneck you speak of is precisely the reason for this lossy compression. more motion requires more losses. you seem to understand this so im not sure what you are saying? im certainly not saying you 'can' encode a dvd with lossless compression (not in a way that it can be played back on a standard dvd player anyway...) just that if you truly want to see exactly what was fed into the dvd, you would need a different format that what is standard today. for any given 'test' signal i cannot say if there is enough loss or not to be self defeating to the purpose of a calibration disc. i suspect some signals would be altered enough that they were no longer really usabale for their intened purpose. but i agree. certainly still images have much less chance of being harmfully altered. randy Article: 319174 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Strange record label Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 20:00:50 -0600 Message-ID: References: <42d82663.726654@news.inet.tele.dk> "arne thormodsen" wrote in message news:sIWBe.8676$k%2.3588@news.cpqcorp.net... > > "Hans Henrik Pedersen" wrote in message > news:42d82663.726654@news.inet.tele.dk... >>A friend of mine have sent me a scan of a record and asked me to >> identify it. I must give up. Can anyone of you guys help? >> http://home6.inet.tele.dk/pedipsen/Audio/unknown.JPG >> Yours Hans Henrik Pedersen. > > I'm guessing it's in Georgian: > > http://www.krysstal.com/writing_georgian.html > > I don't know anything about the language, but I used to work in SW > Internationalization and I've seen a lot of different character sets. so what does it say? yeah, im too lazy to decode it myself randy Article: 319175 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 02:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "xrongor" writes: >they dont use lossy compression? sure they do. mpeg1 or 2 as called for by >the dvd video specification. the bandwidth bottleneck you speak of is >precisely the reason for this lossy compression. more motion requires more >losses. you seem to understand this so im not sure what you are saying? As you say, they certainly do use a lossy compression. But it's based over several frames -- I'm not sure how far it can look ahead. But let's say you have one frame with lots of information; high-bandwidth. If this frame is the exact same for one second, you can spread the information over thirty frames of recording. That, of course, means you have to wait thrity frames during reconstruction until you have all the resolution. I picked that thirty frames out of a hat. I don't know what the real "buffer size" is. But the principle holds. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 319176 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 02:14:35 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "xrongor" writes: >they dont use lossy compression? sure they do. mpeg1 or 2 as called for by >the dvd video specification. the bandwidth bottleneck you speak of is >precisely the reason for this lossy compression. more motion requires more >losses. you seem to understand this so im not sure what you are saying? I realized something else as I wrote my previous reply. Mpeg is designed to be lossy (that's one of those words, if you spell it too often, begins to look funny), but it's not REQUIRED to be lossy. I'm positive it can perfectly encode a 50% gray field, for instance. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 319177 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Crazy George" References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Watzit? Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:00:21 -0500 Message-ID: <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> ONE TUBE? WITH THE INPUT SOLDERED TO THE GRID CAP? Oh, yeah, there is a rectifier, but all those aluminum cylinders are 4 or 8 MF wet electrolytics. Looks like that one in the left corner has been replaced with a later one. And that "microphone" is a Brush earphone. That's what plugs into one set of tip jacks. Wonder what went into the other set, and where the headband for the Brush went? How do you find this stuff, Bill? Lots of filter caps, 30s/40s vintage, must be a high gain audio stage, purpose not obvious. -- Crazy George The attglobal.net address is a SPAM trap. Please change that part to: attbiz properly formatted. "-ex-" wrote in message news:86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET... > What is this thing? > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5789704046 Article: 319178 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Frank K." References: <9MCdnSikr_5SqEXfRVn-2Q@comcast.com> Subject: Re: help with Airline movie-dial plz? Message-ID: <_X_Be.116668$yV4.47305@okepread03> Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 22:13:57 -0500 thank you mark! fk "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:9MCdnSikr_5SqEXfRVn-2Q@comcast.com... > check with Wells-Gardner expert Bruce Eddy. > eddyb@voyager dot net > > that set was made by WG. > > Mark Oppat > > > > "Frank K." wrote in message > news:uuWBe.116553$yV4.101125@okepread03... > > I have an AIRLINE MODEL 62-277 teledial, with the deco grille work broken > > out. Does anyone have a parts set, cabinet, or a tracing of the cut-out > so > > I could make one? MANY THANKS!! frank in OKC > > > > > > > > > Article: 319179 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <2CvBe.22923$eM6.17356@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Clap for the Wolfman Message-ID: <4Z_Be.8585$8f7.6206@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 03:15:12 GMT Maybe he could get a show on XM radio? Omer "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:2CvBe.22923$eM6.17356@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > It's a sad day in Mudville, or at least in Sarasota. > > I posted a message a few months ago, which created quite a thread. I met > Wolfman, who had just begun a program on WIBQ in Sarasota. He told me he > had taken Wolfman Jack's place on the radio and at appearances when the > original Robert Smith was sick with throat cancer. Originally I wasn't > sure of the times and places, but determined later it was 1980-1995 (When > Robert Smith aka wolfman Jack died). > > This rang a bell, as I vaguely remember being told years ago that the > Wolfman I was hearing was not the original Wolfman. I also recall just > after Robrt Smith's death, hearing Wolfman doing commercials and other > spots that Robert Smith could not have done. So I went out searching for > an answer. The Internet has several websites devoted to Wolfman Jack, but > none of them had any references to there being a double, or to Robert > Smith having throat cancer. > > I also checked with certain personalities that should know. One told me > he's full of crap, another told me there could well have been a double, > others didn't know. But there was someone in my own car club that > clinched it -- about 15 years ago there was a Wolfman Jack's restaurant in > Old Town in Kissimmee. Wolfman made a point of being there on cruise > nights -- but Robert Smith was very sick, and most of the time there was > another Wolfman who took his place! > > In any case, I've been listening to Wolfman's Radio just about every > evening, while working on radios at my bench. Frequently I'd call and > make requests. A few times I visited the station, which is not far away. > He would put me on the show, and we'd go to dinner afterwards. He, along > with wife and friends, even came to one of my car shows -- and LOVED my > setup (I play 45's). He introduced me personally to some local talent, > and played some of their work on his radio show. From what I could see, > he was making friends with personalities at various clubs and hot spots > all over town. > > During the Fourth of July, WIBQ became the official station covering the > Suncoast Offshore Grand Prix boat races, taking it away from Clearchannel. > Wolfman was right in the center of it, covering the parades and other > related events. > > More recently I received some bad news from the doctor. Believe me I was > depressed, but it was Wolfman, among others, who gave me some moral > support and helped me get through it. > > Last night I turned on Wolfman's Radio, and instead heard two hours' worth > of useless yik-yak. Today it was confirmed -- Wolfman's Radio has been > cancelled. > > I never did get his real name, but I suppose God sent him my way to get me > through some rough times, with a little enjoyment and moral support. In a > short and small way he has helped the community. I haven't heard from him > yet, but I hope he can stay in the area. Whatever, I wish him luck, and > can tell you all that he's an extraordinary fellow. > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > Article: 319180 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? From: Larry References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 00:12:00 -0400 "Phil Nelson" wrote in news:98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn- hQ@giganews.com: > what are they being used for? I used one to blow out the gym windows at a sock hop when I was 16.... Worked great! Altec Lansing "Voice-of-the-Theatre". The speakers were plywood. Two 15" woofers pointing down into a huge plywood horn. It barely fit in a pickup truck bed. Huge honeycomb mid-tweeter horn, quite long with a big driver. I don't know what final tubes were in it. They looked like 833A transmit triodes with directly heated cathodes in push- pull through a big transformer. I do know about 1/2 volume it would trip a 15A breaker and a few eardrums.... The cops didn't like it when we played rock with it pointed out my buddy Rob's garage door out across the town. You could hear it for miles! I cracked a few of those big glass blocks in the corner of the gym. The principal suggested it might have been a little loud...(c; In high school, being a DJ having such powerful equipment was a great chick magnet for us nerds. None of the football jocks had kilowatt stereos that played The Ventures....(c; -- Larry Power's too easy to get today. My DJ biz now runs a QSC 1450 stereo power amp. http://www.zzounds.com/item--QSCRMX1450 At 2 ohms, bridged mode, it can generate 1,450 watts RMS until the venue's breaker panel heats up and trips out. 725W/channel RMS. That's 19 AMPS of audio into 2 ohms, if you're counting... I can't tell if it's distorted because whatever building it was playing in was making too much rattling noises. Most dances I don't run that much power with two 4 ohm dual 15" JBL beasts more lightly loaded. http://www.zzounds.com/item--JBLMP225 One lady at a Citadel reunion wanted me to call my business "Really Loud Party Music". I need new signs...(c; If you're looking for a nice stereo with full, rich sound, this amp/speaker combo works beautifully. I'm always getting comments on how wonderful the sound is from it. They can't believe all the music I play is MP3 files straight off the computer using Winamp with SqrSoft Advanced Crossfading output module which supervises the Sound Solution 1.1 digital signal processor module which includes AGC, 5-band compression/limiter/expander, post compression output compander, tunable bass expander, etc. Using these modules with an old version of Winamp, I can load up a playlist and simply walk away for hours of music, all nicely leveled, non-stop crossfading and really professional sounding product. Article: 319181 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:07:30 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:db9qib$hh2$1@reader2.panix.com... > In "xrongor" > writes: > >>they dont use lossy compression? sure they do. mpeg1 or 2 as called for >>by >>the dvd video specification. the bandwidth bottleneck you speak of is >>precisely the reason for this lossy compression. more motion requires >>more >>losses. you seem to understand this so im not sure what you are saying? > > I realized something else as I wrote my previous reply. Mpeg is > designed > to be lossy (that's one of those words, if you spell it too often, begins > to > look funny), but it's not REQUIRED to be lossy. I'm positive it can > perfectly > encode a 50% gray field, for instance. im not really sure where we are going with this any more, but by definition, mpeg is a set of standards established for the compression of digital video and audio data. this isnt to say it cant reproduce a gray field exactly. but im not going to get into a technical discussion of compression... its just too damn hot out randy From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Sun Jul 17 12:54:54 EDT 2005 Article: 319182 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Need a knob for.... Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 13 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 05:28:00 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1121491680 66.65.49.245 (Sat, 16 Jul 2005 01:28:00 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 01:28:00 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!199.45.49.37!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319182 A General Electric T-166. The volume knob (on the left). The one I have....the bushing that fits over the shaft is completely disintegrated. Picture here of the radio in question: http://archives.radioattic.com/images/g/GE_T-166_Musaphonic_Warren.jpg In the meantime a generic black Radio Shack knob is taking it's place.... -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 319183 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 05:28:50 GMT xrongor wrote: > im not really sure where we are going with this any more, That's easy.... You started it by implying that Brenda had violated some copyright. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Sun Jul 17 12:54:55 EDT 2005 Article: 319184 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Need a knob for.... References: Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 10 Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 05:30:01 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1121491801 66.65.49.245 (Sat, 16 Jul 2005 01:30:01 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 01:30:01 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319184 In article , Stephanie Weil wrote: > A General Electric T-166. Correction. It's a T-186A -- the FM version. The volume pot shaft is a D-shape. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 319185 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "arne thormodsen" References: <42d82663.726654@news.inet.tele.dk> Subject: Re: Strange record label Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 05:45:48 GMT "xrongor" wrote in message news:db9poi$8o35$1@news3.infoave.net... > > "arne thormodsen" wrote in message > news:sIWBe.8676$k%2.3588@news.cpqcorp.net... >> >> "Hans Henrik Pedersen" wrote in message >> news:42d82663.726654@news.inet.tele.dk... >>>A friend of mine have sent me a scan of a record and asked me to >>> identify it. I must give up. Can anyone of you guys help? >>> http://home6.inet.tele.dk/pedipsen/Audio/unknown.JPG >>> Yours Hans Henrik Pedersen. >> >> I'm guessing it's in Georgian: >> >> http://www.krysstal.com/writing_georgian.html >> >> I don't know anything about the language, but I used to work in SW >> Internationalization and I've seen a lot of different character >> sets. > > so what does it say? > yeah, im too lazy to decode it myself > Can't help here, sorry. I'd say google for some newsgroup about things Georgian and post the question there. Heck, you might even find someone who wants to buy the record too, assuming it's for sale. --arne > randy > Article: 319186 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DaveW Subject: Re: Old TV Cabinet, New Electronics? References: <1121454543.611947.31840@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 06:18:46 GMT Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > walterk wrote: > >> I understand the dilemma. My parents have a 40 YO >> console that we used when I was a kid. It is still >> in their living room. > > > In the late 50s, my dad bought a new TV set to replace the > old one. The empty cabinet ended up in the garage up on the > shelf over the work bench. When I asked him why it was STILL > there 25 years later he replied, "We paid GOOD money for that." > > Ahhhhh.....parents that grew up in the depression. > Got'ta love 'em. > > Jeff > > Yep. My dad and stepmom, both of the depression era, saved the plain Jane cabinet of thier first color set. It was a 25" Zenith, circa 1973, a hybred model with 3 tubes in the high voltage section but everything else solid state. In 1987, when it was determined to be beyond economical repair, they bought a 27" Zenith (stereo sound! remote control! this was living!) and plopped it on top of the old set. Shortly thereafter, they threw away the guts of the old set, inserted a veneer panel on the cabinet front, and to this day use it to store their folding chairs, 87 vintage set still in daily use, still sitting on top. Last time I was there (Saturday) I commented that the old (87) set was pretty dim for daytime viewing. They kind of agreed, and said they were thinking of replacing it. C'est la vie. They sit in a house they bought in 1970 for $40,000, clearly worth $1,000,000 today, still driving the 1988 Dodge Caravan with the peeling paint and dents. They agree that the car needs replacing too, but seem a bit put off by the prospect of dealing with car dealers. Stepmom is a 1924 vintage, Dad, is more recent: 1927. Gotta love them! Regards, DAve Article: 319187 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:28:16 +0900 Message-ID: References: "xrongor" wrote in message news:dba4u6$8scq$1@news3.infoave.net... > im not really sure where we are going with this any more, but by definition, > mpeg is a set of standards established for the compression of digital video > and audio data. > > this isnt to say it cant reproduce a gray field exactly. but im not going > to get into a technical discussion of compression... its just too damn hot > out > If all the bits are repeated ad infinitum, there is no compression loss. The algorithm simply takes the first set of bits and then reads how many times they repeat, and assigns an array to make them repeat x number of times Article: 319188 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HiTech RedNeck" References: <11dgle4pf2npb27@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: street price for NOS WE 300B? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 06:56:11 GMT "David Axt" wrote in message news:11dgle4pf2npb27@corp.supernews.com... > What is the ball park estimate for an NOS WE 300B tube? > > Thanks, > David > > Want to buy one or sell one? If selling, be aware that NOS tubes like that can command very high prices. Google around for that tube number and you can survey the market on various merchants. If buying, like Phil said, be aware that high demand old tubes are being duplicated today in Chinese, Russian, etc. versions from several vendors. If you don't need a NOS tube for the aficionado/snob factor, then consider the cheap ones. Article: 319189 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dennis Daly" References: Subject: Re: Jackson 648 Tube Tester Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 06:58:56 GMT "Chris F." wrote in message news:SlPBe.61455$Ph4.1848305@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > You sure it doesn't have a gas test? It has a "gas" region on the meter.... Well, my example doesn't have any indications of having a gas test. By "gas region," do you mean the red zone with a "?" in it? Far right of the scale? If so, that _could_ be an indicator of sorts if a tube tested gassy,.. or had misplaced elements -or damaged connections- or an "extra high tube," according to my printed Jackson instructions...But then, many tube testers without such a red/ upper zone would have a too high indication in that general area also. ...but a specific gas test function as I know it?...I don't think so. Den Article: 319190 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HiTech RedNeck" References: Subject: Re: Need a knob for.... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 07:25:44 GMT "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:slrnddh6n0.gp2.stephanie@home3.gordsven.com... > A General Electric T-166. > > The volume knob (on the left). The one I have....the bushing that fits > over the shaft is completely disintegrated. An idea - if there is still some bushing left on the knob, glue it back together with plas-t-pair or epoxy, using thin metal tubing slid over the bushing to back it up. If you have too many itty bitty pieces to do that in one step, glue the bushing together first, let cure, then slide on and glue on the tubing. Or if some pieces are missing then use the shaft itself as a mold form, greasing it with some silicone lubricant so the glue won't adhere and filling the tubing with enough glue to make up the missing part of the bushing. Article: 319191 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HiTech RedNeck" References: Subject: Re: Rugged speaker grille material Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 07:33:39 GMT This might protect the speaker cones from determined cat assaults, but I wanted something that the cats couldn't tear up and make ugly in the first place. Maybe I'll end up having to put metal screen on the front. "Ken" wrote in message news:YjOBe.56111$iU.46246@lakeread05... > If you want to make regular grille cloth rugged, back it with black > steel window screen. Ken > > HiTech RedNeck wrote: > > > Quite by accident I came across a cloth that looks like it would be > > promising for speaker grilles that need to be durable. > > > > http://www.fabricdepot.com/Catalog.aspx?ItemKey=5515 > > > > This is "pet screen" which is supposed to be 7 times stronger than ordinary > > screen. It's a plastic coated polyester mesh. This looks like it might > > actually be catproof. I've ordered a yard of the beige color and will see > > how well it works in a 4-cat household. > > > > > Article: 319192 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HiTech RedNeck" Subject: How to do gold lettering for finished wood? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:02:44 GMT I have an old wooden stereo phono cabinet, of varnished wood, that is beaten up enough that I would like to strip, sand, re-stain, and re-varnish it. Its value to me is as a family memento, not a collectors' item (i.e. I want it to look nice in the living room, but I'd never want to sell it). However stripping the wood finish would remove some gold colored lettering, 1/8" high, that is on an approximately 14" long, 1/4" high strip of wood beneath the control knobs. How could I re-apply such lettering to the refinished cabinet? I'm thinking in terms of creating a decal that would fit the entire strip, but I don't want the covered surface to look like it obviously has a decal on it. TIA redneck Article: 319193 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Roger Smith Subject: Re: About OT posts in RAR+P (Lurkers speak up!) Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 10:55:16 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1fadnVIBIe-t2U7fRVn-uw@comcast.com> Phil, Maybe us lurkers don't understand what it was like in the "good old days" and what vitality you are looking for? I find the group interesting, OT stuff included although I must admit that I only download messages dependant upon their subject. I may not be very typical of the US lurker as I am UK and find a lot of stuff is not applicable and that is why I am very selective. Good Luck and keep it going! Roger http://www.rwsmith611.dabsol.co.uk/sets.htm On Tue, 12 Jul 2005 00:14:51 -0400, "Phil B" wrote: >So far it is gratifying to see all the posts in this thread from the >respected senior members of RAR+P. A lot of good stuff being said! > >How about you lurkers out there! What do you think about RAR+P. Have any >suggestions for maintaining its vitality? Come on, speak up! Your >opinions will be appreciated (at least by me!). > >Phil B > > >"Phil B" wrote in message >news:lsidnWLUbetdm0_fRVn-uQ@comcast.com... >> I wonder if everything there is to say about vintage radios has >already >> been said and archived in Google Groups? Maybe nothing is left to say >> except for OT stuff and bickering? Some people on ARF have been >bashing >> RAR+P lately, although the replies in favor of RAR+P outnumber the >> negatives. >> >> I like this group. Anyone care to post some constructive ideas on how >to >> get us back to the good old days? >> >> Phil B >> >> > From adouglasatgis.net Sun Jul 17 12:54:57 EDT 2005 Article: 319194 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Watzit? Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 06:20:43 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 12 Message-ID: <8onhd1hf9j63flu276j1lit0atm27lomfr@4ax.com> References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> <1121495337.893887.191730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-256.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news2 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319194 Hi, Phil wrote: >My opinion: It's just an amplifier. The protrusion on the side is a >microphone, not a speaker. The connection to the grid cap indicates >this. The thing that looks like and earphone with the wires IS the >earphone. Yup. I think it's a homebrew hearing aid. The mike looks like an earphone "borrowed" from a telephone handset. Alan Article: 319195 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" References: Subject: Re: How to do gold lettering for finished wood? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 12:03:39 GMT I have used dry transfer lettering. You have to place each letter individually, but you can spell anything and can match the original font. Try looking at the Letraset web site. "HiTech RedNeck" wrote in message news:U24Ce.3953$Ih7.2775@newssvr33.news.prodigy.com... >I have an old wooden stereo phono cabinet, of varnished wood, that is >beaten > up enough that I would like to strip, sand, re-stain, and re-varnish it. > Its value to me is as a family memento, not a collectors' item (i.e. I > want > it to look nice in the living room, but I'd never want to sell it). > However > stripping the wood finish would remove some gold colored lettering, 1/8" > high, that is on an approximately 14" long, 1/4" high strip of wood > beneath > the control knobs. How could I re-apply such lettering to the refinished > cabinet? I'm thinking in terms of creating a decal that would fit the > entire strip, but I don't want the covered surface to look like it > obviously > has a decal on it. > > TIA > redneck > > Article: 319196 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42D8FC57.31F9BC8C@BCPL.net> From: George Nuetzel Subject: 1930 Federal Census Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 08:23:51 -0400 For all you genealogists out there, the 1930 census was the first to ask if you owned a radio set. George Article: 319197 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter Grabarczyk Subject: Re: Watzit? References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> <1121495337.893887.191730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8onhd1hf9j63flu276j1lit0atm27lomfr@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 13:13:53 GMT Alan Douglas wrote: > Yup. I think it's a homebrew hearing aid. The mike looks like an > earphone "borrowed" from a telephone handset. > > Alan Well, don't know about the overall item, but on the "mike" you're close! It *is* an earphone, but not from a "telephone handset". It is one half of a standard pair of Brush (as stated in the auction) crystal communications headphones. Got a pair just like it. BTW, they look like regular headphones and are usually equipped with a regular 1/4 " 'phone plug. However, they have a *crystal* element, not the conventional diaphragm and pole pieces wound with magnet wire. The crystal element can tolerate *NO* DC, so be careful what you plug them in to. Also, handle them gently as the crystal elements can tolerate very little mechanical shock. In their day, they were considered a very "upscale" item because of their lighter weight. (Back when men were men and had professions that required they wore headphones for long periods of time). ;-) 73, Carter K8VT Article: 319199 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Old TV Cabinet, New Electronics? References: <1121494995.419888.153920@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <9de2a$42d90ecb$82a12456$4918@news1.tudelft.nl> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:42:35 +0200 Jeff wrote: > Some time ago, I saw on AudioKarma.org how one person did the same > thing with a Zenith System 3 table model, building it right into a > 1948-49 Zenith Great Circle Screen console cabinet--not simply putting > a shelf in the old cabinet and perching the new set on it, but actually > building the newer TV into the older cabinet so the new set looked as > if it were made for it. The new set looked as if it were actually part > of the cabinet. This would be a heck of a lot simpler (and safer) than > trying to fit an entire TV chassis, CRT, etc. from a newer set into an > earlier vintage cabinet. Apart from my reaction, I have not read the word 'restoration' even once... How come? Maybe I should go and build some Frankenradio's ;-) --- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 319200 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Old TV Cabinet, New Electronics? Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 07:26:06 -0700 Message-ID: <24152-42D918FE-142@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> References: <9de2a$42d90ecb$82a12456$4918@news1.tudelft.nl> >From Maarten B.: >Apart from my reaction, I have not read >the word 'restoration' even once... How >come? The theme of the thread seems more toward making a 'daily driver'. Whereas a restoration would be turned on mainly for demonstration and *never* left running unattended. Bill(oc) Article: 319201 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Old TV Cabinet, New Electronics? References: <9de2a$42d90ecb$82a12456$4918@news1.tudelft.nl> <24152-42D918FE-142@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:03:40 GMT >>Apart from my reaction, Which would be gagging! Ron Article: 319202 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> <1121495337.893887.191730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8onhd1hf9j63flu276j1lit0atm27lomfr@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Watzit? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:05:01 -0400 "Carter Grabarczyk" a opiné > The crystal element can tolerate *NO* DC Why is that ? Why would a crystal be damaged with DC ? Syl Article: 319203 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 11:10:26 -0400 "Carter Grabarczyk" wrote in message news:e4tBe.705$OC4.52@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com... > Tim Mullen wrote: > > > You're more likely to know the "old geezers", so this will bias > > a subjective head count. > > > I've been involved in this particular hobby for, I'd guess, close > > to twenty years. I've never been to a swap meet in my life. > > Nothing to do with who you know. If you actually went to swap meets or > club meetings, you simply have to *observe*...to see that there are many > more older than younger people attending. (Granted, my observations are > generally based on southeastern Michigan and northern Ohio, which may or > may not be typical for the rest of the country, although I have no > reason to doubt that it would be fairly typical). > > 73, > Carter K8VT > > Hi Carter When I was a lot younger, say 16, I remember radio club meetings were then filled with old farts! Pete k1zjh Article: 319204 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Old TV Cabinet, New Electronics? References: <9de2a$42d90ecb$82a12456$4918@news1.tudelft.nl> <24152-42D918FE-142@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 17:17:52 +0200 Bill Sheppard wrote: > From Maarten B.: >>Apart from my reaction, I have not read >>the word 'restoration' even once... How >>come? > The theme of the thread seems more toward making a 'daily driver'. > Whereas a restoration would be turned on mainly for demonstration and > *never* left running unattended. That's true... Restoring an old TV to the point it can be played regularly is much harder than doing so with an old radio. It's just.. I happen to like old TV's ;-) --- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 319205 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 15:28:26 GMT Uncle Peter wrote: > When I was a lot younger, say 16, I remember radio club meetings > were then filled with old farts! *snickers* When you were 16, ANYONE over 30 was an "olf fart." Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319206 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Old TV Cabinet, New Electronics? Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 09:06:41 -0700 Message-ID: <23216-42D93091-124@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> References: >From Maarten B.: >Restoring an old TV to the point it can be >played regularly is much harder than >doing so with an old radio. It's just.. I >happen to like old TV's ;-) Me too oc Article: 319207 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1121531644.522763.146170@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Today's yard sale find Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 13:06:15 -0400 "twomuttheads" wrote in message news:1121531644.522763.146170@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Zenith Transoceanic, Y600L (actually stamped on inside back door is > MODEL Y600). Yep, leather T/O. Almost mint with all papers, hang tags, > original Zenith tubes, Zenith battery pack and Zenith dial light > battery. Looks hardly used, nice leather. Needs some cleaning and > detailing, but what a steal for $100. Guy said it was his dad's and was > rarely used, was stored in a closet. > Congratulations!!!! All of those TOs are fine sets. There is a Yahoo group dedicated to restoring those radios, BTW. I bet there are many more undiscovered in closets, forgotten.... They cost alot, and most folks who owned seemed to hold on to them forever. The fortunate ones landed in closets, buried under blankets. The less fortunate ones in damp cellars or sheds. Please post some photos. Pete Article: 319208 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: audion tube found Message-ID: <%8bCe.130403$go.3613@fed1read05> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 13:07:07 -0400 "Art's Antique Radios" wrote in message news:trudnXMlEdzRGEXfRVn-sg@comcast.com... > Picture posted in alt.binaries.pictures.radios > > Picked up an inexpensive box lot of stuff and found this tube in there plus > a lot of other Deforest Audion tubes. I do not collect early stuff and Ebay > only showed one tube similar to this at $2300 but no sale. > > How lucky did I get in the real world? > I hope your luck carries over to your next Vegas trip!!! Pete Article: 319209 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: Today's yard sale find References: <1121531644.522763.146170@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <4sbCe.256797$El.38567@pd7tw1no> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 17:27:28 GMT The group mentioned is the TransoceanicFanatic http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thetransoceanicfanatic/ Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Uncle Peter wrote: > Congratulations!!!! All of those TOs are fine sets. There is a Yahoo > group dedicated to restoring those radios, BTW. > > Article: 319210 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 13:40:16 -0500 Mark Oppat wrote: > Gary, > just a note, Peavey is not considered "pro" gear in the real pro audio > industry. EV, JBL, EAW, and many others I dont even know today are pro > level, but Peavey is specifically mentioned in many act riders as not > acceptable. > > Peavey tried to break into the pro level market in the late 80's, but never > could, their name was mud in the industry, it was a real dumb move I > thought.... they even made a "pro" grade mixing desk, 36 to 48 channel I > think it was... it tanked. That was then - this is now... Peavey has now indeed managed to get a foothold in the pro market - and is moving fast... see this: http://peavey.com/products/index.cfm/go/proAudio/ With amps coming in the 4KW range (2KW per channel 2 channels driven into 2ohms) at under 50 pounds; (CS-4000, and that's *not* their biggest amp, though the 4080 isn't available yet-); several speakers systems that can handle 2KW+ *program* (3500W+ peak) at low distortion (CW series among others); up to 14 channel pro-class mixers; etc. --- not to mention that Crest and MediaMatrix are both Peavey divisions... ain't the "old crap" any more... best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319211 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2005 23:10:40 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:db9q7j$jce$1@reader2.panix.com... > In "xrongor" > writes: > >>they dont use lossy compression? sure they do. mpeg1 or 2 as called for >>by >>the dvd video specification. the bandwidth bottleneck you speak of is >>precisely the reason for this lossy compression. more motion requires >>more >>losses. you seem to understand this so im not sure what you are saying? > > As you say, they certainly do use a lossy compression. But it's based > over several frames -- I'm not sure how far it can look ahead. But let's > say you have one frame with lots of information; high-bandwidth. If this > frame is the exact same for one second, you can spread the information > over thirty frames of recording. That, of course, means you have to wait > thrity frames during reconstruction until you have all the resolution. > > I picked that thirty frames out of a hat. I don't know what the real > "buffer size" is. But the principle holds. i think hear what you are saying. i agree that a 'smarter' encoder could use several frames worth of information in the way you suggest to get more information into that single picture than a single frame worth of info could hold. but this still all depends on how much you trust your encoder.. i guess at this point im just rambling off on a theoretical tangent randy Article: 319212 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 13:14:05 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:mW0Ce.14387$3o4.12362@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > xrongor wrote: >> im not really sure where we are going with this any more, > > That's easy.... You started it by implying that Brenda had > violated some copyright. you may have infered it. it was never implied... randy Article: 319213 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 13:16:19 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:dba9cg$mih$1@news2.kornet.net... > > "xrongor" wrote in message > news:dba4u6$8scq$1@news3.infoave.net... >> im not really sure where we are going with this any more, but by > definition, >> mpeg is a set of standards established for the compression of digital > video >> and audio data. >> >> this isnt to say it cant reproduce a gray field exactly. but im not >> going >> to get into a technical discussion of compression... its just too damn > hot >> out >> > > If all the bits are repeated ad infinitum, there is no compression loss. > The > algorithm simply takes the first set of bits and then reads how many times > they repeat, and assigns an array to make them repeat x number of times exactly. now its your turn to field the rest of these questions randy Article: 319214 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 20:48:07 GMT xrongor wrote: > "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote: >> >>That's easy.... You started it by implying that Brenda had >>violated some copyright. > > > you may have infered it. it was never implied... > > randy How exactly did you mean this then? xrongor wrote: > how did you LEGALLY get them in such a format where you can > sell them? or did you steal them off the avia or soundvision > discs? > > randy Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319215 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Pelham" References: <42D8FC57.31F9BC8C@BCPL.net> Subject: Re: 1930 Federal Census Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 17:24:31 -0400 >> For all you genealogists out there, the 1930 census was the first to ask >> if you owned a radio set. > > And the answer was? http://www.census.gov/geo/www/mapGallery/maps1930/radios.pdf This map illustrates the monumental disadvantage those of us living in the southeast have, at least when it comes to collecting old radios. John Pelham Suwanee, GA http://www.radiophile.com Article: 319216 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Crazy George" References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> <1121495337.893887.191730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8onhd1hf9j63flu276j1lit0atm27lomfr@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Watzit? Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 16:20:54 -0500 Message-ID: <42d98035_2@news1.prserv.net> Carter: I think you will find that all headphones back then had tip plugs. I think the pair of Brush cans I had back in the early 50s had tips, and I know the Trimm magnetic jobs did. Trying to get those tips to seat in the grooves in the 1/4" plugs and stay there was always an exercise in futility. Use of the 1/4" plugs and jacks was jump-started by the military in WW2, and picked up by hams as we moved into the Hi-Fi era of the late 50s / early 60s. -- Crazy George W5VPQARRLNET "Carter Grabarczyk" wrote in message news:lK7Ce.2506$dX5.1414@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com... > Alan Douglas wrote: > > > Yup. I think it's a homebrew hearing aid. The mike looks like an > > earphone "borrowed" from a telephone handset. > > > > Alan > > Well, don't know about the overall item, but on the "mike" you're close! > It *is* an earphone, but not from a "telephone handset". It is one half > of a standard pair of Brush (as stated in the auction) crystal > communications headphones. Got a pair just like it. > > BTW, they look like regular headphones and are usually equipped with a > regular 1/4 " 'phone plug. However, they have a *crystal* element, not > the conventional diaphragm and pole pieces wound with magnet wire. The > crystal element can tolerate *NO* DC, so be careful what you plug them > in to. Also, handle them gently as the crystal elements can tolerate > very little mechanical shock. > > In their day, they were considered a very "upscale" item because of > their lighter weight. (Back when men were men and had professions that > required they wore headphones for long periods of time). ;-) > > 73, > Carter K8VT Article: 319217 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: Subject: Re: Philco Shadow meter Q: Message-ID: <_kfCe.45205$0i3.34348@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:52:58 GMT Thanks, this is a big help. I think the meter does move just a little, but maybe that shunting resistor has rising in value. Ive printed out your suggestions and now to get bench time :) Thanks, -- Keith Keith Park Top Notch Restorations topnotch@nycap.rr.com 71 Squareback 65 Notchback "El BajaRojo" 65 Squareback "Eggcrate" 87 Golf 88 Rx7 10th Anniversary "Rextur" "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message news:cTFBe.29386$ag7.4358@bignews4.bellsouth.net... > Keith Park wrote: > > > I have a philco 18 with the early shadow meter, what kind of voltage drop > > ACROSS it should I see between tuned on a strong station and detuned? > > IIRC - the 18 has a resistor shunting the shadow meter, so that won't > help you. You need to lift a lead to the meter- and measure the meter > coil by itself. > > Normally, in most Philco sets - the RF, Conv and sometimes the IFs B+ > comes through the shadow meter, so if the set "works" the shadow meter > coil is OK. However, IIRC that the 18 has a resistor shunting the meter > you can't count on that, and will have to check the meter with an ohm > meter. Usually, the RF/conv/IF B+ through the shadow meter is usually > around 10ma. - however - again - since the 18 has a bit different > circuit - you'll need to check a schematic to see what stages and what > their current is (at AGC bias levels). Most shadow meters were 1000 ohm > (usually 1000 ft of 40ga. wire) but again - since the 18 was "different" > you'll need to double check that should you need to rewind the coil. > > Once you've determined where the problem is (open coil, open resistor, > defective AGC, or whatever) fixing it is pretty straight forward - > though if you find you need to adjust the shadow meter - there are > articles available to help you learn. > > best regards... > -- > randy guttery > > A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews > so vital to the United States Silent Service: > http://tendertale.com Article: 319218 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Watzit? References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> <1121495337.893887.191730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8onhd1hf9j63flu276j1lit0atm27lomfr@4ax.com> <42d98035_2@news1.prserv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:21:18 GMT Crazy George wrote: > Use of the 1/4" plugs and jacks was jump-started by the > military in WW2, and picked up by hams as we moved into the Hi-Fi era of the late 50s / early 60s. > I'm not so sure about that, they were in wide use way before WW2. I've got dozens of early 20s radios that have 1/4" headphone jacks. I can't think of a single one that used pin jacks for connecting head phones & speakers. Ron Article: 319219 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "HannahR" References: <42d82663.726654@news.inet.tele.dk> Subject: Re: Strange record label Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:27:00 GMT This Wikipedia entry seems to have a translation table for Mkhedruli, the Georgian script on the record labels. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mkhedruli Article: 319220 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Pioneer SM-B200 References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:57:50 -0400 How old is this unit? Ken Engineer wrote: > Stop Press! > This chassis (an AM/SW/FM PP tube unit) had been on the bench for > weeks and I had been doing anything to avoid getting down to fixing > the AM2 receiver channel instability - basically, it had spooked me > out! Anyway today I pushed the other distracting projects aside (a > Sansui 5050 restoration and a homebrew 10 watt PP tube power amplifier > in process) and determined to "fix the AM" or sell the unit on eBay as > a "project"! Ta da... I've just fixed the AM instability! > I had already checked all the tubes in the area, the RF and audio > decoupling, the 6BE6 oscillator/mixer, the IF amplifier (all good), so > I finally checked the AGC smoothing capacitor by connecting another > 0.05 uF across it. That was it... immediately all AM stations came in > loud an clear! Final check on the IF alignment - perfect. Odd thing, > the IF is aligned to 470 KHz (not the expected 455 KHz.) I tried to > set it up on a compromise 465 KHz but the gain appeared to be less, so > I left it on 470 KHz. > BTW, the "Birdies... oh my!" thread a while back gave me a clue > (thanks, Gary Tayman!) > Just a final alignment on the FM to be done to complete the job. > Definitely a couple of beers tonight! > Cheers, > Roger > > Article: 319221 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Watzit? Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 17:04:18 -0700 Message-ID: <23621-42D9A082-232@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> References: >From Ron: >I'm not so sure about that, they were in >wide use way before WW2. > >I've got dozens of early 20s radios that >have 1/4" headphone jacks. Telephone switchboards (where the operator says "Number Pleeze") used 'em 'waaaay back in the 19teens and perhaps earlier if i'm not mistaken. Bill(oc) Article: 319222 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" Subject: Re: Watzit? Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 17:52:06 -0700 Message-ID: <11djavgh5f0nv70@corp.supernews.com> References: <23621-42D9A082-232@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> >> I've got dozens of early 20s radios >> that have 1/4" headphone jacks. > Telephone switchboards (where the operator says "Number Pleeze") used > 'em 'waaaay back in the 19teens and perhaps earlier if i'm not mistaken. 1/4" headphone jacks were in common use until the Walkman appeared. You can still find new consumer audio products that use 1/4" headphone jacks. Article: 319223 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: Today's yard sale find Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 18:53:25 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1121531644.522763.146170@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Cool Find !!!!!!!! Ben "twomuttheads" wrote in message news:1121531644.522763.146170@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Zenith Transoceanic, Y600L (actually stamped on inside back door is > MODEL Y600). Yep, leather T/O. Almost mint with all papers, hang tags, > original Zenith tubes, Zenith battery pack and Zenith dial light > battery. Looks hardly used, nice leather. Needs some cleaning and > detailing, but what a steal for $100. Guy said it was his dad's and was > rarely used, was stored in a closet. > Article: 319224 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? From: Larry References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 20:59:39 -0400 "Gary Tayman" wrote in news:O08Ce.11592$aY6.10713@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net: > Here's my setup: I start with 600 45 RPM records (DING! No longer > OT), a casket containing two Stanton turntables with Stanton > cartirdges, a digital mixer, a single top loading CD player, mike and > headphones. I have a portable (?) case with amp and equalizer. I've > got two Peavey speakers with poles. That's about it. Pro turntables, > pro mixer, pro amp, pro speakers, and about the only audio processing > is the equalizer. > > I dumped all that. One HP computer with 660GB of hard drives stores a lot more than my whole library. No more getting caught with my pants down when the customer SAID he wanted Carolina Beach Music, 60's-70's Rock and when I got there they got bored with that and wanted DISCO or HOUSE to dance to all night....(sigh) Now? No problemo. Open another directory full of 24,000 Disco and 12,800 House songs and smile. Oh, by the way, let me do YOU a real favor if you dump analog and go to MP3s....MP3 ADVANCED CATALOG PRO from http://www.wizetech.com is the FINEST, and FASTEST MP3 catalog program I've ever seen. It was written by some great Russian coders. It uses little RAM, works on any Windoze system back to 95, uses very little CPU resources so it doesn't make playback balk, even on a slow machine. I tried it and bought it online from the Russians. You get lifetime upgrades for your measily $29 investment. It has never made Win98SE or WinXPPro crash. To fill it from your big library, you simply point it at MY Computer and click UPDATE CATALOG. There are hundreds of thousands of songs on my huge drives. It catalogs about 3000 songs a minute, extracting every ID3 tag info from every one of them! The whole ID3 tag on every song is catalogged and can be searched in any way you can think of. "What's that? You want me to play "Canadian Sunset"? Wait a second." (click to search the entire huge database while still on-the-air.) Type in Canadian Sunset. Computer nearly instantly comes back with every Canadian Sunset played by any artist in my library. "Did you want it played by Glenn Miller, Harry James, James Last...(etc., etc.)?" "Ah, Benny Goodman it is." Click and drag Benny Goodman straight from the search results screen to Winamp playlist under the song that's currently playing. POW, one specific song, played by one specific artist out of a hundred thousand songs INSTANTLY! It will search on any field, any string name..... "What have I got by Bruce Springsteen? Wait a second." (Enter Bruce Springsteen into search box) "Here, this is all his recordings I have. Which would you like to hear?" Customer is thrilled to see them all neatly sorted by Song Title by this little Russian program. He's happy...I'M HAPPY...(c; Using Winamp (free) with the plugins I mentioned, no riding level controls, no manual crossfading, no skipping on the computer, no dirt/dust/scratches making it sound awful. The box is real easy to transport and use with the LCD monitor. Once loaded, I can even go to the party!...OR TO THE POTTY!...(c; NONSTOP MUSIC...Pays well...(c; There's not a broadcaster here that has a finer or smoother delivery system.... -- Larry Article: 319225 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? From: Larry References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:18:33 -0400 "Mark Oppat" wrote in news:r6WdnQ8sxNiA0UTfRVn- 2Q@comcast.com: > Peavey is not considered "pro" gear Whoa! Don't be beatin' up our bread and butter PA equipment! Many of us have been making a very nice living working on dead Peavey amps built on a piece of bent sheet metal and those cheap speakers...(c; Peavey has gotten better since the cheap days. It will take them a long time to live down what the company used to be, though. My output transistor/IC bin awaits the next burned up Peavey's inevitable delivery....(c; -- Larry Article: 319226 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: Watzit? Date: 17 Jul 2005 01:58:00 GMT Message-ID: References: <23621-42D9A082-232@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> Bill Sheppard (oldcoot@webtv.net) writes: > From Ron: > >>I'm not so sure about that, they were in >>wide use way before WW2. >> >>I've got dozens of early 20s radios that >>have 1/4" headphone jacks. > > Telephone switchboards (where the operator says "Number Pleeze") used > 'em 'waaaay back in the 19teens and perhaps earlier if i'm not mistaken. > Bill(oc) > Didn't telephone switchboards use a different size? I know at one point decades ago I ended up with some odd size connectors that were physically much the same as the 1/4" mono connectors, but they were a different size. I was excited to get them, disappointed to find I couldn't make use of them. ANd for some reason, I thought they were used in telephone switchboards. Michael From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Sun Jul 17 12:55:04 EDT 2005 Article: 319227 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: 2050 tube? Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 19:17:44 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <11djfsdc6c7en99@corp.supernews.com> Reply-To: "David Axt" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 6 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news-feed01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net!nntp.frontiernet.net!newsfeed2.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-12!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319227 Anybody know tech info for a 2050 tube? What is it? Thanks, David Article: 319228 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter Grabarczyk Subject: Re: Watzit? References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> <1121495337.893887.191730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8onhd1hf9j63flu276j1lit0atm27lomfr@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 02:25:22 GMT Syl wrote: > "Carter Grabarczyk" a opiné > > >>The crystal element can tolerate *NO* DC > > > Why is that ? > > Why would a crystal be damaged with DC ? > > Syl Syl, A fair question, and the answer, in two words, is...piezoelectric effect. That is to say, when you move a crystal with mechanical motion (as in a phono pickup), you generate a voltage. The opposite is also true--when you apply a voltage to a piezoelectric crystal, you get mechanical motion (it moves). In many ham (and commercial?) receivers of the era, it was very common to feed the B+ to the final audio tube through the headphones. As the B+ was typically 150 to 250 volts, this voltage would easily warp, fracture or shatter the crystal element. I did say *no* DC, but I may be being too conservative. You might be able to put a volt or two of DC on crystal headphones without damage but...how lucky do you feel? 73, Carter K8VT Article: 319229 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter Grabarczyk Subject: Re: Watzit? References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> <1121495337.893887.191730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8onhd1hf9j63flu276j1lit0atm27lomfr@4ax.com> <42d98035_2@news1.prserv.net> Message-ID: <9ljCe.1121$CJ6.624@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 02:26:13 GMT Crazy George wrote: > Carter: > > I think you will find that all headphones back then had tip plugs. I think the pair of Brush cans I had back in the > early 50s had tips, and I know the Trimm magnetic jobs did. Trying to get those tips to seat in the grooves in the 1/4" > plugs and stay there was always an exercise in futility. Use of the 1/4" plugs and jacks was jump-started by the > military in WW2, and picked up by hams as we moved into the Hi-Fi era of the late 50s / early 60s. > > -- > Crazy George > W5VPQARRLNET George, You are absolutely correct, and my apologies for not stating so more clearly. Most, if not all, earphones of the era (crystal and magnetic) did come from the factory with tip plugs. However, by the mid 30's and maybe even ealier,(at least on my 1936 RME-69) the use of tip jacks on the receiving equipment was rapidly being replaced by 1/4" jacks. And as you point out, it was a bit of a chore to keep everything together! 73, Carter K8VT Article: 319230 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 02:35:57 GMT There are CD's, there are MP3's, there's music on hard drive that can be played from a laptop, but I'm sorry to say that NONE of it belongs at the car shows that I DJ for. Here's what got me started: Years ago my car club was asked to host a monthly car cruise in St. Pete. The members agreed, but were wondering who could fix their non-working sound system. I had just joined at the time, and had never seen it -- but volunteered to check it out. The problem was with the mixer, and I got it going. Before the first show however, someone bought an 8 channel board. Very nice, but nobody knew how to hook it up or use it. Well, I ended up working it, and quickly became DJ. After seeing their CD library, I actually used my own -- I had better CD's in the car. I actually enjoyed doing this, but realized I needed more CD's and quick. I decided to buy two new CD's per month, and before long I would have a nice music library. By the second month, I was wondering why I needed to buy all these CD's when I've got the records and a perfectly good turntable at home. So for the next cruise, I took the turntable and some records, along with a power strip so I could control the turntable for cueing. This was an instant hit -- people went crazy watching me playing the records, and everyone agreed that doo-wops just don't sound the same coming from a laptop. This eventually morphed into what I have now. Years have gone by, and I'm continually adding to my collection -- which has really turned into something special. I've got all sorts of original-label 45's, many of them DJ copies, and a couple autographed. Word has gotten around, and I've heard comments through the grapevine that "of all the car show DJ's in Tampa Bay and Southwest Florida, Gary Tayman the "Spin Doctor" is by far the best." Spinning records is work. You cannot leave the turntables for more than two minutes because you have to change a record. There are indeed a few ticks and pops, and through the headphones I can hear a little cue burn on some. You have to be careful to protect the records from the hot sun. You need a table just to hold the records (which I keep in Igloo lunchboxes). I take about 600 records to a show, which is only a drop in the bucket compared to what you can take with other media. BUT -- unlike a radio station, where thousands of people listen, I set up at a car show, where hundreds of people WATCH. People LOVE the records -- they love to watch me cue them, they love to sift through them and find their favorite songs, they love the idea that I'm playing the original recordings, that are just as old as the cars on display. Other DJ's use CD's or laptops, and other DJ's don't have nearly as much fun, or get nearly the response, that I get by spinning records. Now -- by admission, I have some CD's containing a lot of material. In fact I've got a list of Billboard top hits of each year, 1950-1959, and every song catalogued on CD's by year and position. I've also got "mix" CD's of music, the purpose of which is to allow me to run an errand or take a leak without the need to be back within two minutes. I'm also ponderirng the idea of buying another system, that is physically smaller and more practical, to use on occasions where weather threatens, or I can't take the Thunderbird for some reason. This evening for example, there was threat of rain (and it did) so I did not take the sound -- but I could have set up a smaller system that could easily be put away. But this is only a substitute -- I do NOT intend to give up the records because they are part of the show. Is Peavey pro? Is ANY of it pro? Yes. It is pro in terms of being designed for the purpose. It does not look good in my living room; it is designed to be used by bands and commercial sound reinforcement. Maybe not by Charlie Daniels, but by local bands who perform at area clubs, and make money doing it. If I were doing this full time to make money on a large scale, my turntables would not be Stanton STR8-80's; they would be Technics 1200's or even Stanton STR8-150's. (straight vs. curved tonearms are another subject which I won't get into now.) There are better mixers, better amps, and certainly better speakers I could use. But what I have does the job quite well. "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns9695D4DCC36F9noone@63.223.7.253... > "Gary Tayman" wrote in > news:O08Ce.11592$aY6.10713@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net: > >> Here's my setup: I start with 600 45 RPM records (DING! No longer >> OT), a casket containing two Stanton turntables with Stanton >> cartirdges, a digital mixer, a single top loading CD player, mike and >> headphones. I have a portable (?) case with amp and equalizer. I've >> got two Peavey speakers with poles. That's about it. Pro turntables, >> pro mixer, pro amp, pro speakers, and about the only audio processing >> is the equalizer. >> >> > > I dumped all that. One HP computer with 660GB of hard drives stores a lot > more than my whole library. No more getting caught with my pants down > when > the customer SAID he wanted Carolina Beach Music, 60's-70's Rock and when > I > got there they got bored with that and wanted DISCO or HOUSE to dance to > all night....(sigh) > > Now? No problemo. Open another directory full of 24,000 Disco and 12,800 > House songs and smile. > > Oh, by the way, let me do YOU a real favor if you dump analog and go to > MP3s....MP3 ADVANCED CATALOG PRO from http://www.wizetech.com is the > FINEST, and FASTEST MP3 catalog program I've ever seen. It was written by > some great Russian coders. It uses little RAM, works on any Windoze > system > back to 95, uses very little CPU resources so it doesn't make playback > balk, even on a slow machine. I tried it and bought it online from the > Russians. You get lifetime upgrades for your measily $29 investment. It > has never made Win98SE or WinXPPro crash. To fill it from your big > library, you simply point it at MY Computer and click UPDATE CATALOG. > There are hundreds of thousands of songs on my huge drives. It catalogs > about 3000 songs a minute, extracting every ID3 tag info from every one of > them! The whole ID3 tag on every song is catalogged and can be searched > in > any way you can think of. > > "What's that? You want me to play "Canadian Sunset"? Wait a second." > (click to search the entire huge database while still on-the-air.) Type > in > Canadian Sunset. Computer nearly instantly comes back with every Canadian > Sunset played by any artist in my library. "Did you want it played by > Glenn Miller, Harry James, James Last...(etc., etc.)?" "Ah, Benny Goodman > it is." Click and drag Benny Goodman straight from the search results > screen to Winamp playlist under the song that's currently playing. POW, > one specific song, played by one specific artist out of a hundred thousand > songs INSTANTLY! It will search on any field, any string name..... > > "What have I got by Bruce Springsteen? Wait a second." (Enter Bruce > Springsteen into search box) "Here, this is all his recordings I have. > Which would you like to hear?" Customer is thrilled to see them all > neatly > sorted by Song Title by this little Russian program. He's happy...I'M > HAPPY...(c; > > Using Winamp (free) with the plugins I mentioned, no riding level > controls, > no manual crossfading, no skipping on the computer, no dirt/dust/scratches > making it sound awful. The box is real easy to transport and use with the > LCD monitor. Once loaded, I can even go to the party!...OR TO THE > POTTY!...(c; > > NONSTOP MUSIC...Pays well...(c; There's not a broadcaster here that has a > finer or smoother delivery system.... > > -- > Larry Article: 319231 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:37:50 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Watzit? References: <23621-42D9A082-232@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <3ac5c$42d9c482$4232bdd4$18835@COQUI.NET> Michael Black wrote: > > Didn't telephone switchboards use a different size? I know at one point > decades ago I ended up with some odd size connectors that were physically > much the same as the 1/4" mono connectors, but they were a different size. > I was excited to get them, disappointed to find I couldn't make use of > them. > > ANd for some reason, I thought they were used in telephone switchboards. > > Michael > There is an "almost" 1/4" size out there. Some of the ham gear in the 60s foolishly used it. Its slightly smaller, not sure what is the precise measurement. Also dunno if its related to the telephone gear. Most guys would simply change out the jack rather than hunt around for that plug. -Bill Article: 319232 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter Grabarczyk Subject: Re: 2050 tube? References: <11djfsdc6c7en99@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 02:37:38 GMT David Axt wrote: > Anybody know tech info for a 2050 tube? What is it? > > Thanks, > David > > Gas filled triode aka Thyratron...used for control applications. See any tube manual from the 50s-60s-70s for characteristics. Carter K8VT Article: 319233 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Watzit? References: <23621-42D9A082-232@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> <3ac5c$42d9c482$4232bdd4$18835@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 02:43:56 GMT -ex- wrote: > There is an "almost" 1/4" size out there. Some of the ham gear in the > 60s foolishly used it. Its slightly smaller, not sure what is the > precise measurement. Also dunno if its related to the telephone gear. It's 3/16" of an inch. And...it was fairly standard on WWII equipment. Typically, 1/4" for the headphones and telegraph key and 3/16" for the microphones. Jeff "They're so cute when they're little." -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319234 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 22:47:16 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Message-ID: Gary Tayman wrote: > > Spinning records is work. You cannot leave the turntables for more than two > minutes because you have to change a record. There are indeed a few ticks > and pops, and through the headphones I can hear a little cue burn on some. > You have to be careful to protect the records from the hot sun. You need a > table just to hold the records (which I keep in Igloo lunchboxes). I take > about 600 records to a show, which is only a drop in the bucket compared to > what you can take with other media. BUT -- unlike a radio station, where > thousands of people listen, I set up at a car show, where hundreds of people > WATCH. People LOVE the records -- they love to watch me cue them, they love > to sift through them and find their favorite songs, they love the idea that > I'm playing the original recordings, that are just as old as the cars on > display. Other DJ's use CD's or laptops, and other DJ's don't have nearly > as much fun, or get nearly the response, that I get by spinning records. I think I told this story here before. I went to a big party and they had a pretty snazzy DJ set up. Actually it was a whole team of guys. Cases full of LPs and 45s, lotsa turntables. I was impressed with seeing the little guy diggin out records then the main LP guy would do all his business of cueing them up. He even did that back and forth rap routine with the platters. A real beehive of activity. Then I noticed that things weren't quite synched up. They'd do all the motion of setting up an LP on the turntable, mess around with turning knobs and suchlike, then remove the LP. The music kept on playing. So I snooped a little closer and it turns out the whole "show" was on CDs and all the other paraphenalia was just there for effect. They did a darn good job of it. -Bill Article: 319235 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: Watzit? Date: 17 Jul 2005 03:44:49 GMT Message-ID: References: <23621-42D9A082-232@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> <3ac5c$42d9c482$4232bdd4$18835@COQUI.NET> Jeffrey D Angus (jangus@socal.rr.com) writes: > -ex- wrote: >> There is an "almost" 1/4" size out there. Some of the ham gear in the >> 60s foolishly used it. Its slightly smaller, not sure what is the >> precise measurement. Also dunno if its related to the telephone gear. > > It's 3/16" of an inch. And...it was fairly standard on WWII equipment. > Typically, 1/4" for the headphones and telegraph key and 3/16" for the > microphones. > So then would it have been to ensure you didn't plug the wrong thing into the wrong jack? Michael Article: 319236 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42D9D7AB.A9528668@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Watzit? References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> <1121495337.893887.191730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8onhd1hf9j63flu276j1lit0atm27lomfr@4ax.com> <42d98035_2@news1.prserv.net> <9ljCe.1121$CJ6.624@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 03:59:56 GMT Carter Grabarczyk wrote: > > You are absolutely correct, and my apologies for not stating so more > clearly. Most, if not all, earphones of the era (crystal and magnetic) > did come from the factory with tip plugs. > > However, by the mid 30's and maybe even ealier,(at least on my 1936 > RME-69) the use of tip jacks on the receiving equipment was rapidly > being replaced by 1/4" jacks. And as you point out, it was a bit of a > chore to keep everything together! > > 73, > Carter K8VT There were specially made 1/4" phone plugs made to hold the tip pins. They had a grove in each terminal, and a screw would lock a pin in each one. The body was about 3/4" diameter to provide room for the larger terminals and screws. i amy still have one around here, somewhere. -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 319237 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:04:27 -0700 From: RC Subject: Heathkit GR-91 AM ? Message-ID: <42d9d838$1_1@dowco.com> I had a GR-91 as kid, and last year re-capped, re resistored fixed the I.F. cans etc. However the manual says don't adjust the AM band coil, well I did. AM is not good any ideas? Thanks Ray Article: 319238 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42D9D906.7D9117E2@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: What happened to IN, OH, & PA? (was Re: 1930 Federal Census) References: <42D8FC57.31F9BC8C@BCPL.net> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 04:05:43 GMT radioguy57 wrote: > > John Byrns wrote: > > What happened to IN, OH, & > > PA, they are in the same section of the country, why are they in the next > > lower tier of radio density? > > > > Rural electrification hadn't happened yet by 1930. My parents and > grandparents lived in SW Ohio through the depression and electricity > didn't come to their farm until well into the 1940's. Plus, the > preponderance of farm families wouldn't have had much extra money for > frills such as radios. Where in SW Ohio? I grew up in Middletown, Ohio. -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 319239 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? Message-ID: <1121574838.bd40654232bac6dd3a72896f0c13aeda@teranews> Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 21:33:51 -0700 gary - in your collection, do you have a 45, one side of which is a song called "time after time" - came out in 1968 to 1970 - don't remember exactly when - by the guy who was the producer for "patches" as I recall - I gotta get a copy of that record. (anyone else got that record?) "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:hujCe.3$6f.1@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > There are CD's, there are MP3's, there's music on hard drive that can be > played from a laptop, but I'm sorry to say that NONE of it belongs at the > car shows that I DJ for. > > Here's what got me started: Years ago my car club was asked to host a > monthly car cruise in St. Pete. The members agreed, but were wondering > who could fix their non-working sound system. I had just joined at the > time, and had never seen it -- but volunteered to check it out. The > problem was with the mixer, and I got it going. Before the first show > however, someone bought an 8 channel board. Very nice, but nobody knew > how to hook it up or use it. Well, I ended up working it, and quickly > became DJ. After seeing their CD library, I actually used my own -- I had > better CD's in the car. I actually enjoyed doing this, but realized I > needed more CD's and quick. I decided to buy two new CD's per month, and > before long I would have a nice music library. > > By the second month, I was wondering why I needed to buy all these CD's > when I've got the records and a perfectly good turntable at home. So for > the next cruise, I took the turntable and some records, along with a power > strip so I could control the turntable for cueing. This was an instant > hit -- people went crazy watching me playing the records, and everyone > agreed that doo-wops just don't sound the same coming from a laptop. > > This eventually morphed into what I have now. Years have gone by, and I'm > continually adding to my collection -- which has really turned into > something special. I've got all sorts of original-label 45's, many of > them DJ copies, and a couple autographed. Word has gotten around, and > I've heard comments through the grapevine that "of all the car show DJ's > in Tampa Bay and Southwest Florida, Gary Tayman the "Spin Doctor" is by > far the best." > > Spinning records is work. You cannot leave the turntables for more than > two minutes because you have to change a record. There are indeed a few > ticks and pops, and through the headphones I can hear a little cue burn on > some. You have to be careful to protect the records from the hot sun. You > need a table just to hold the records (which I keep in Igloo lunchboxes). > I take about 600 records to a show, which is only a drop in the bucket > compared to what you can take with other media. BUT -- unlike a radio > station, where thousands of people listen, I set up at a car show, where > hundreds of people WATCH. People LOVE the records -- they love to watch > me cue them, they love to sift through them and find their favorite songs, > they love the idea that I'm playing the original recordings, that are just > as old as the cars on display. Other DJ's use CD's or laptops, and other > DJ's don't have nearly as much fun, or get nearly the response, that I get > by spinning records. > > Now -- by admission, I have some CD's containing a lot of material. In > fact I've got a list of Billboard top hits of each year, 1950-1959, and > every song catalogued on CD's by year and position. I've also got "mix" > CD's of music, the purpose of which is to allow me to run an errand or > take a leak without the need to be back within two minutes. I'm also > ponderirng the idea of buying another system, that is physically smaller > and more practical, to use on occasions where weather threatens, or I > can't take the Thunderbird for some reason. This evening for example, > there was threat of rain (and it did) so I did not take the sound -- but I > could have set up a smaller system that could easily be put away. But > this is only a substitute -- I do NOT intend to give up the records > because they are part of the show. > > Is Peavey pro? Is ANY of it pro? Yes. It is pro in terms of being > designed for the purpose. It does not look good in my living room; it is > designed to be used by bands and commercial sound reinforcement. Maybe > not by Charlie Daniels, but by local bands who perform at area clubs, and > make money doing it. If I were doing this full time to make money on a > large scale, my turntables would not be Stanton STR8-80's; they would be > Technics 1200's or even Stanton STR8-150's. (straight vs. curved tonearms > are another subject which I won't get into now.) There are better mixers, > better amps, and certainly better speakers I could use. But what I have > does the job quite well. > > "Larry" wrote in message > news:Xns9695D4DCC36F9noone@63.223.7.253... >> "Gary Tayman" wrote in >> news:O08Ce.11592$aY6.10713@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net: >> >>> Here's my setup: I start with 600 45 RPM records (DING! No longer >>> OT), a casket containing two Stanton turntables with Stanton >>> cartirdges, a digital mixer, a single top loading CD player, mike and >>> headphones. I have a portable (?) case with amp and equalizer. I've >>> got two Peavey speakers with poles. That's about it. Pro turntables, >>> pro mixer, pro amp, pro speakers, and about the only audio processing >>> is the equalizer. >>> >>> >> >> I dumped all that. One HP computer with 660GB of hard drives stores a >> lot >> more than my whole library. No more getting caught with my pants down >> when >> the customer SAID he wanted Carolina Beach Music, 60's-70's Rock and when >> I >> got there they got bored with that and wanted DISCO or HOUSE to dance to >> all night....(sigh) >> >> Now? No problemo. Open another directory full of 24,000 Disco and >> 12,800 >> House songs and smile. >> >> Oh, by the way, let me do YOU a real favor if you dump analog and go to >> MP3s....MP3 ADVANCED CATALOG PRO from http://www.wizetech.com is the >> FINEST, and FASTEST MP3 catalog program I've ever seen. It was written >> by >> some great Russian coders. It uses little RAM, works on any Windoze >> system >> back to 95, uses very little CPU resources so it doesn't make playback >> balk, even on a slow machine. I tried it and bought it online from the >> Russians. You get lifetime upgrades for your measily $29 investment. It >> has never made Win98SE or WinXPPro crash. To fill it from your big >> library, you simply point it at MY Computer and click UPDATE CATALOG. >> There are hundreds of thousands of songs on my huge drives. It catalogs >> about 3000 songs a minute, extracting every ID3 tag info from every one >> of >> them! The whole ID3 tag on every song is catalogged and can be searched >> in >> any way you can think of. >> >> "What's that? You want me to play "Canadian Sunset"? Wait a second." >> (click to search the entire huge database while still on-the-air.) Type >> in >> Canadian Sunset. Computer nearly instantly comes back with every >> Canadian >> Sunset played by any artist in my library. "Did you want it played by >> Glenn Miller, Harry James, James Last...(etc., etc.)?" "Ah, Benny >> Goodman >> it is." Click and drag Benny Goodman straight from the search results >> screen to Winamp playlist under the song that's currently playing. POW, >> one specific song, played by one specific artist out of a hundred >> thousand >> songs INSTANTLY! It will search on any field, any string name..... >> >> "What have I got by Bruce Springsteen? Wait a second." (Enter Bruce >> Springsteen into search box) "Here, this is all his recordings I have. >> Which would you like to hear?" Customer is thrilled to see them all >> neatly >> sorted by Song Title by this little Russian program. He's happy...I'M >> HAPPY...(c; >> >> Using Winamp (free) with the plugins I mentioned, no riding level >> controls, >> no manual crossfading, no skipping on the computer, no >> dirt/dust/scratches >> making it sound awful. The box is real easy to transport and use with >> the >> LCD monitor. Once loaded, I can even go to the party!...OR TO THE >> POTTY!...(c; >> >> NONSTOP MUSIC...Pays well...(c; There's not a broadcaster here that has >> a >> finer or smoother delivery system.... >> >> -- >> Larry > > Article: 319240 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 01:07:23 -0400 Message-ID: <3ju7cdFrmjb2U1@individual.net> References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Larry wrote: > > Oh, by the way, let me do YOU a real favor if you dump analog and go to > MP3s....MP3 ADVANCED CATALOG PRO from http://www.wizetech.com is the > FINEST, and FASTEST MP3 catalog program I've ever seen. It was written by > some great Russian coders. It uses little RAM, works on any Windoze > system back to 95, uses very little CPU resources so it doesn't make > playback > balk, even on a slow machine. I tried it and bought it online from the > Russians. You get lifetime upgrades for your measily $29 investment. It > has never made Win98SE or WinXPPro crash. To fill it from your big > library, you simply point it at MY Computer and click UPDATE CATALOG. > There are hundreds of thousands of songs on my huge drives. It catalogs > about 3000 songs a minute, extracting every ID3 tag info from every one of > them! The whole ID3 tag on every song is catalogged and can be searched > in any way you can think of. > you can do the same thing for free running linux using several programs doing the same thing. KDE has a great program called JUK that does the same thing as the program you mentioned above. there also is Amorok. these two programs even have more features than any windows program i have ever tried. when i want to create playlist on the fly, there is nothing quicker than the command "$ ls /mnt/hda5/mp3s/rock/70s/ > /home/robert/rock_playlist.lst. that command creates a text file of every mp3 in that directory that i can edit to taste. XMMS (a winamp clone) has a decent cross-fade program as well. Article: 319241 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: CHRS benefit auction Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 23:49:25 -0700 Message-ID: References: norml wrote: > Here's a brief report on today's C.H.R.S. benefit auction and KRE > celebration. > > The day started out badly--a horrendous accident occurred on Interstate 80 > at the Ashby ramp about 2:30AM. All four eastbound lanes were still closed > as I cleared the Bay Bridge toll plaza at about 8:30. The start of our > event was put off by half an hour to allow people to get through the > traffic. Agreed....Absolutely horrible traffic, as bad as any I have ever seen. The last 2 miles of my trip to this event took > 45 minutes to navigate. If I hadn't thought of getting off 580 in Emeryville it would have taken another 30 minutes, easily. I'm nomally a pretty mellow guy, but this one had me pounding on my steering wheel in frustration. > > I would say that at least a couple of hundred people showed up--mostly male > and of a certain age. But there was an encouraging number of couples--even > young ones with kids. That's about right. I did notice that many regulars that would normally go to something like this were NOT in attendance. I wonder if some folks simply got freaked out by the impossible traffic conditions and stayed home? > > Plenty of folding chairs were set out under canopies for auction > participants. A good thing--since we had a warm, cloudless day. That blue canopy was a great addition...last year's auction left me way sunburned. http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03309.jpg > > We had a grill with sausages, drinks, chips, etc. Very nice sausages, better than the usual hot-dog fare of most meets. The sausages were donated by a local meat company, too..... At $5.00 a pop for a sausage, chips and a beverage, I'll bet it added a few bucks to the kitty. http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03308.jpg > > Entertainment included a couple of bands http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03310.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03311.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03312.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03313.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03314.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03315.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03354.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03355.jpg > and the recreation of a Gunsmoke > radio episode by members of Broadcast Legends, an organization of veteran > and retired Bay Area broadcasters. (Full disclosure: I played a supporting > role in this production.) http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03316.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03317.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03318.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03319.jpg > > The auction featured about 100 items of varying degrees of desirability. There was actually 180+ auction lots, plus lots and lots of interesting (and very cheap) stuff at the flea market. http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03270.jpg I got a fully intact Philco 39-116 chassis complete with esteucheon, antenna and a perfect speaker at the flea for $20.00 and several other pretty cool items for $5.00 and $10.00. The auction had a bit too many lots IMHO.....The event went about three hours past its scheduled 2PM end time and only a few dozen diehards stayed until the very end. I think the sheer abundance of items tended to depress the prices a bit. Most stuff went for WAY cheap at this auction. Nice, restorable cathedrals going for $20, $30, $40.00 in most cases, and almost nothing cracking the $100.00 mark. If you're a Cathedral guy, this was almost a dream auction. http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03339.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03338.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03358.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03356.jpg > > The historic KRE building was open with items from the C.H.R.S. collection > on view. Operators of the two AM transmitters on the site--KVTO, 1400Khz > 1KW and KFRC 610Khz, 5Kw--provided explanations of those devices. The site > is on a tidal plain so is an excellent AM xmtr site. (I have been told that > salinity of the adjoining pond exceeds that of the bay and the ocean.) But > in a conversation with veteran Bay Area radio personality Carter B. Smith, > I learned the site has other amenities. He told me of a time when he worked > there in the early '60s that the water was so high a boat was required to > reach the station. He climbed in through a window and called the owner, who > recommended that the staff start acquiring sand bags. The water was already > in the wiring troughs so Carter signed the station off and went home. > > The new club ham station was put on the air for its first QSOs. That damned traffic.....I missed the first QSO at 10AM because of it. These photos are from the second QSO, which occured at 10:15. They are working a contact from Arizona on 20 meters who has been a Ham since 1947. Seems rather appropriate for the event. http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03290.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03292.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03293.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03295.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03320.jpg > > C.H.R.S. president and spark plug Steve Kushman http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03284.jpg > and volunteers from the > membership deserve all kudos for this splendid event. http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03278.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03288.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03289.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03287.jpg http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03275.jpg > > Photos will be posted on the C.H.R.S web site in a few days. No need to wait.....There are some picures available already here: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/ -Scott Article: 319242 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 02:19:35 -0600 Message-ID: References: i already answered this. "who knows where they came from. so instead of guessing, im asking..." but you want some deep explanation. ah what the heck. i had searched for such files in the past (specifically ones that i could resell) and couldnt find any that i didnt have to purchase. with brenda's pricing i figured she either found a source of free files or stole them off another disc. i was hoping it was option a. based on such discs i have seen in the past option b was also very likely. she certainly wouldnt be the first to do so. i hadnt considered option c.. most of us dont have NTSC signal generators lying around... but lets say i was doing exactly what you think i was. just flat out accusing her of stealing. we were well past that and discussing the technical details of such a capture on dvd... then out of nowhere you come in and back me into a corner. if brenda was concerned about it i think she could take care of herself... so let me ask you. how exactly did YOU mean this? "That's easy.... You started it by implying that Brenda had violated some copyright." when i was answering this: "I realized something else as I wrote my previous reply. Mpeg is designed to be lossy (that's one of those words, if you spell it too often, begins to look funny), but it's not REQUIRED to be lossy. I'm positive it can perfectly encode a 50% gray field, for instance." if not to just to pick a fight? randy > How exactly did you mean this then? > > xrongor wrote: >> how did you LEGALLY get them in such a format where you can >> sell them? or did you steal them off the avia or soundvision >> discs? >> >> randy > > Jeff > > -- > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319243 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 02:25:07 -0600 Message-ID: References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> <1121574838.bd40654232bac6dd3a72896f0c13aeda@teranews> this might help you pinpoint the artist... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_After_Time_%281947_song%29 randy "william_b_noble" wrote in message news:1121574838.bd40654232bac6dd3a72896f0c13aeda@teranews... > gary - in your collection, do you have a 45, one side of which is a song > called "time after time" - came out in 1968 to 1970 - don't remember > exactly when - by the guy who was the producer for "patches" as I recall - > I gotta get a copy of that record. > > > (anyone else got that record?) > > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:hujCe.3$6f.1@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... >> There are CD's, there are MP3's, there's music on hard drive that can be >> played from a laptop, but I'm sorry to say that NONE of it belongs at the >> car shows that I DJ for. >> >> Here's what got me started: Years ago my car club was asked to host a >> monthly car cruise in St. Pete. The members agreed, but were wondering >> who could fix their non-working sound system. I had just joined at the >> time, and had never seen it -- but volunteered to check it out. The >> problem was with the mixer, and I got it going. Before the first show >> however, someone bought an 8 channel board. Very nice, but nobody knew >> how to hook it up or use it. Well, I ended up working it, and quickly >> became DJ. After seeing their CD library, I actually used my own -- I >> had better CD's in the car. I actually enjoyed doing this, but realized >> I needed more CD's and quick. I decided to buy two new CD's per month, >> and before long I would have a nice music library. >> >> By the second month, I was wondering why I needed to buy all these CD's >> when I've got the records and a perfectly good turntable at home. So for >> the next cruise, I took the turntable and some records, along with a >> power strip so I could control the turntable for cueing. This was an >> instant hit -- people went crazy watching me playing the records, and >> everyone agreed that doo-wops just don't sound the same coming from a >> laptop. >> >> This eventually morphed into what I have now. Years have gone by, and >> I'm continually adding to my collection -- which has really turned into >> something special. I've got all sorts of original-label 45's, many of >> them DJ copies, and a couple autographed. Word has gotten around, and >> I've heard comments through the grapevine that "of all the car show DJ's >> in Tampa Bay and Southwest Florida, Gary Tayman the "Spin Doctor" is by >> far the best." >> >> Spinning records is work. You cannot leave the turntables for more than >> two minutes because you have to change a record. There are indeed a few >> ticks and pops, and through the headphones I can hear a little cue burn >> on some. You have to be careful to protect the records from the hot sun. >> You need a table just to hold the records (which I keep in Igloo >> lunchboxes). I take about 600 records to a show, which is only a drop in >> the bucket compared to what you can take with other media. BUT -- unlike >> a radio station, where thousands of people listen, I set up at a car >> show, where hundreds of people WATCH. People LOVE the records -- they >> love to watch me cue them, they love to sift through them and find their >> favorite songs, they love the idea that I'm playing the original >> recordings, that are just as old as the cars on display. Other DJ's use >> CD's or laptops, and other DJ's don't have nearly as much fun, or get >> nearly the response, that I get by spinning records. >> >> Now -- by admission, I have some CD's containing a lot of material. In >> fact I've got a list of Billboard top hits of each year, 1950-1959, and >> every song catalogued on CD's by year and position. I've also got "mix" >> CD's of music, the purpose of which is to allow me to run an errand or >> take a leak without the need to be back within two minutes. I'm also >> ponderirng the idea of buying another system, that is physically smaller >> and more practical, to use on occasions where weather threatens, or I >> can't take the Thunderbird for some reason. This evening for example, >> there was threat of rain (and it did) so I did not take the sound -- but >> I could have set up a smaller system that could easily be put away. But >> this is only a substitute -- I do NOT intend to give up the records >> because they are part of the show. >> >> Is Peavey pro? Is ANY of it pro? Yes. It is pro in terms of being >> designed for the purpose. It does not look good in my living room; it is >> designed to be used by bands and commercial sound reinforcement. Maybe >> not by Charlie Daniels, but by local bands who perform at area clubs, and >> make money doing it. If I were doing this full time to make money on a >> large scale, my turntables would not be Stanton STR8-80's; they would be >> Technics 1200's or even Stanton STR8-150's. (straight vs. curved >> tonearms are another subject which I won't get into now.) There are >> better mixers, better amps, and certainly better speakers I could use. >> But what I have does the job quite well. >> >> "Larry" wrote in message >> news:Xns9695D4DCC36F9noone@63.223.7.253... >>> "Gary Tayman" wrote in >>> news:O08Ce.11592$aY6.10713@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net: >>> >>>> Here's my setup: I start with 600 45 RPM records (DING! No longer >>>> OT), a casket containing two Stanton turntables with Stanton >>>> cartirdges, a digital mixer, a single top loading CD player, mike and >>>> headphones. I have a portable (?) case with amp and equalizer. I've >>>> got two Peavey speakers with poles. That's about it. Pro turntables, >>>> pro mixer, pro amp, pro speakers, and about the only audio processing >>>> is the equalizer. >>>> >>>> >>> >>> I dumped all that. One HP computer with 660GB of hard drives stores a >>> lot >>> more than my whole library. No more getting caught with my pants down >>> when >>> the customer SAID he wanted Carolina Beach Music, 60's-70's Rock and >>> when I >>> got there they got bored with that and wanted DISCO or HOUSE to dance to >>> all night....(sigh) >>> >>> Now? No problemo. Open another directory full of 24,000 Disco and >>> 12,800 >>> House songs and smile. >>> >>> Oh, by the way, let me do YOU a real favor if you dump analog and go to >>> MP3s....MP3 ADVANCED CATALOG PRO from http://www.wizetech.com is the >>> FINEST, and FASTEST MP3 catalog program I've ever seen. It was written >>> by >>> some great Russian coders. It uses little RAM, works on any Windoze >>> system >>> back to 95, uses very little CPU resources so it doesn't make playback >>> balk, even on a slow machine. I tried it and bought it online from the >>> Russians. You get lifetime upgrades for your measily $29 investment. >>> It >>> has never made Win98SE or WinXPPro crash. To fill it from your big >>> library, you simply point it at MY Computer and click UPDATE CATALOG. >>> There are hundreds of thousands of songs on my huge drives. It catalogs >>> about 3000 songs a minute, extracting every ID3 tag info from every one >>> of >>> them! The whole ID3 tag on every song is catalogged and can be searched >>> in >>> any way you can think of. >>> >>> "What's that? You want me to play "Canadian Sunset"? Wait a second." >>> (click to search the entire huge database while still on-the-air.) Type >>> in >>> Canadian Sunset. Computer nearly instantly comes back with every >>> Canadian >>> Sunset played by any artist in my library. "Did you want it played by >>> Glenn Miller, Harry James, James Last...(etc., etc.)?" "Ah, Benny >>> Goodman >>> it is." Click and drag Benny Goodman straight from the search results >>> screen to Winamp playlist under the song that's currently playing. POW, >>> one specific song, played by one specific artist out of a hundred >>> thousand >>> songs INSTANTLY! It will search on any field, any string name..... >>> >>> "What have I got by Bruce Springsteen? Wait a second." (Enter Bruce >>> Springsteen into search box) "Here, this is all his recordings I have. >>> Which would you like to hear?" Customer is thrilled to see them all >>> neatly >>> sorted by Song Title by this little Russian program. He's happy...I'M >>> HAPPY...(c; >>> >>> Using Winamp (free) with the plugins I mentioned, no riding level >>> controls, >>> no manual crossfading, no skipping on the computer, no >>> dirt/dust/scratches >>> making it sound awful. The box is real easy to transport and use with >>> the >>> LCD monitor. Once loaded, I can even go to the party!...OR TO THE >>> POTTY!...(c; >>> >>> NONSTOP MUSIC...Pays well...(c; There's not a broadcaster here that has >>> a >>> finer or smoother delivery system.... >>> >>> -- >>> Larry >> >> > > Article: 319244 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: 21fjp22 tube - testing Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 06:20:50 -0700 Message-ID: <23217-42DA5B32-29@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> References: <1121583142.028937.327200@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Frenchy, Very often a booster was used to maintain grey scale if one gun's emission got a little too low. Bill(oc) Article: 319245 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? From: Larry References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> <3ju7cdFrmjb2U1@individual.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 09:48:47 -0400 Radio Rambler wrote in news:3ju7cdFrmjb2U1@individual.net: > $ ls /mnt/hda5/mp3s/rock/70s/ > /home/robert/rock_playlist.lst. Ah, spoken like a true Linux fan....(c; Can't everyone remember cryptic unix command line syntax? Reminds me of CP/M....or Fortran.....or (gulp) MS-DOS! I fooled with Linux for a couple of years. Linux' big problem is NOONE EVER FINISHES WHAT HE STARTED! They get to Beta 0.998g version and their youthful short attention span wanders into the next gee whiz project. At that point, noone ever fixes the bugs and you're stuck with 0.998g unless some other hacker picks up the project. Try MP3 Catalog Pro. I can't find a bug in it. -- Larry Article: 319246 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: off topic ebay/paypal question From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1121606420.176397.123770@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:50:45 GMT In article <1121606420.176397.123770@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, cornytheclown@hotmail.com says... > > > Beats me why they force the card on you... I have one.... not a bad deal really ... most anything that I use that card for PayPal gives me a 1.5% kickback ... restraunts, UPS to pay for shipping a radio.. I do have a bank account connected to the paypal account... but mostly I use the paypal when we sell stuff and buy stuff from fleabay... then since I sold more than I bought... started using the Master Card to take the boss out to Dinner... am sure they nick the merchants for 3% and 1/2 of that I get back.. John k9uwa Article: 319247 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" Subject: Re: off topic ebay/paypal question Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 06:51:04 -0700 Message-ID: <11dkok1fer0jk0d@corp.supernews.com> References: <1121606420.176397.123770@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> > I have nearly reached the limit that I can use PayPal in eBay for. > They now say I must either give them bank account info or > purchase a PayPal Visa card. > Why do you reach a limit with eBay in the first place??? Because that's how they do business, unfortunately. Once you've hit their "free" limit, they want you to start paying. I don't believe you have to get a credit card. But you have to become a "preferred" member, which removes the limit at the expense of having to pay fees on received payments. > Also, on a lot of auctions I have seen where many sellers will not > accept PayPal payments from people using the PayPal Visa... > What is up with that ??? Probably because PayPal Visa charges too much. Buying with a credit card gives you certain legal rights, which individual sellers (such as myself) don't want to get involved with. Article: 319248 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: CHRS benefit auction From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:55:41 GMT In article , NOT_MY_REAL@email.com says... > > Hi Scott... I know a lady that needs a set of guts for a Zenith 6s52 saw one on top of the heap of the auction goodies.... lots of nice looking stuff there.... I liked the Black Zenith tombstone.. nice RCA tombstone.. think a Jackson Bell in there... looks like it was a fun trip... Even if the Traffic was a mess!... Scott if that rotary relay gizmo on your 39-116 is junk... I have junker chassis that I think will be the same.... its I think a 41-310 or something like that.. John k9uwa Article: 319249 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> <1121574838.bd40654232bac6dd3a72896f0c13aeda@teranews> Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? Message-ID: <1121611078.f5c9e8eb33ed537479e3cdd855fc3e21@teranews> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 07:37:43 -0700 thanks randy, but that's the wrong "time after time" - this particular one is a totally stupid little ditty - a parody, no doubt, the entire lyrics of which consist of the title, repeated over and over to a rather banal tune - most assuredly not a Jazz (or anything else, except absurdity) classic. bill (still seeking the song) (and, I need a copy of "Love took my heart and stomped that sucker flat", and "I'm getting tears in my ears, lying on my back, crying over losing you" - both are real songs) "xrongor" wrote in message news:dbd4l3$ae2h$1@news3.infoave.net... > this might help you pinpoint the artist... > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_After_Time_%281947_song%29 > > randy > > > "william_b_noble" wrote in message > news:1121574838.bd40654232bac6dd3a72896f0c13aeda@teranews... >> gary - in your collection, do you have a 45, one side of which is a song >> called "time after time" - came out in 1968 to 1970 - don't remember >> exactly when - by the guy who was the producer for "patches" as I >> recall - I gotta get a copy of that record. >> >> >> (anyone else got that record?) >> Article: 319250 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: 21fjp22 tube - testing Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 07:32:08 -0700 Message-ID: <5709-42DA6BE8-3@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> References: <23217-42DA5B32-29@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> P.S. to Frenchy - Is there by chance a slide switch on that booster for selecting boost/ non-boost? If so, it is a combination booster/isolator for when the CRT has a heater-cathode short. If you mess with old color sets much, you WILL eventually run into H-K shorts in the jug. The symptom is total loss of luminance information, i.e., the B&W video component of the picture is missing, while the color component is normal and brightness is normal. Tapping the neck of the jug will almost always show it up. It can drive you nuts hunting loss of the video signal, unless you have a heads-up for this symptom. "Forewarned is forearmed", they say. But using an H-K isolator introduces a symptom of its own, though: smearing of fine detail in the video due to added capacitance. Bill(oc) Article: 319251 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Sparky" References: <1121606420.176397.123770@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: off topic ebay/paypal question Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:48:21 GMT Paypal is not a bank. They do not have to follow any rules set out for banks. Quite often they change the rules in the middle of the game. As with all companies they only exist for one thing: To make a profit! Article: 319252 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 11:11:40 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> <1121574838.bd40654232bac6dd3a72896f0c13aeda@teranews> <1121611078.f5c9e8eb33ed537479e3cdd855fc3e21@teranews> Message-ID: <53326$42da7530$4232bd57$10318@COQUI.NET> william_b_noble wrote: > > bill (still seeking the song) (and, I need a copy of "Love took my heart > and stomped that sucker flat", There seems to be many versions of a "You Done Tore Out My Heart And Stomped That Sucker Flat." Take your pick. and "I'm getting tears in my ears, lying on > my back, crying over losing you" - both are real songs) Not sure of the correct title but I think it is actually "I've Got Tears in My Ears, Lying on My Back, Crying Over You" by Homer & Jethro. GL in your quest. -Bill Article: 319253 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 15:27:27 GMT xrongor wrote: > i already answered this. > > "who knows where they came from. so instead of guessing, im asking..." OK, so let me see if I got it right this time. You couldn't find it for free online, so you assumed that Brenda must have stolen it from somewhere. Then when you got called on it, you backtrack and come up with a variety of explanations as how how you didn't mean it when you said: > how did you LEGALLY get them in such a format where you can sell them? or > did you steal them off the avia or soundvision discs? > > randy Then you change the subject and go off on a rant about how the quality of the images must be inferior due to all the compression of the DVD format. Who was it picking a fight then? This is what's wrong with this group. When somebody offers to do something for the benefit of others, they immediately get their ass handed back to them. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319254 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42DA7C1F.CFCCAA3A@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Pictures of my new Y600L T/O posted References: <1121611875.562407.129280@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 11:41:19 -0400 What a score! Great find! Sal twomuttheads wrote: > here at my site: http://groups.msn.com/AuroraOldRadios/shoebox.msnw Article: 319255 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bob Weiss Subject: Re: 2050 tube? References: <11djfsdc6c7en99@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <2mvCe.2511$Zx3.1886@trndny05> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 16:06:22 GMT Carter Grabarczyk wrote: > Gas filled triode aka Thyratron...used for control applications. See any > tube manual from the 50s-60s-70s for characteristics. The 2050 is a TETRODE thyratron, not a triode. 6.3V, 600mA filament, 1.3 kV, 100 mA maximum anode ratings. Bob Weiss N2IXK Article: 319256 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: CHRS benefit auction Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 09:09:27 -0700 Message-ID: References: John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > In article , NOT_MY_REAL@email.com says... > >> > > Hi Scott... I know a lady that needs a set of guts for a Zenith 6s52 > saw one on top of the heap of the auction goodies.... > > lots of nice looking stuff there.... > I liked the Black Zenith tombstone.. Yup, not too many ebony Zeniths out there....This one was the real deal with the chrome esteucheon and knob inserts >nice RCA tombstone.. That RCA was one of the items that went well over $100.00. HUGE tombstone, everybody wanted it. > think a Jackson Bell > in there... looks like it was a fun trip... > Even if the Traffic was a mess!... It was worth the trip, warts and all. > > Scott if that rotary relay gizmo on your 39-116 is junk... I have junker > chassis that I think will be the same.... its I think a 41-310 or something > like that.. I haven't had a chance to examine the chassis I got yet. I did a visual on it and everything seems to be intact and in very good shape, but I won't know for sure until the "smoke test". -Scott Article: 319257 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: Some one please Test ppinyot.com TO page. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 17:05:58 GMT I received feedback about my site not properly displaying the Transoceanic page. The feedback was, " Hello i can not get anyware on your site,It allmost come up but pops off to my desktop? realy wanted to check the Zenith TO info, Thank You..... " Of course is seems fine on my computer. Q - Would some one please try the TO page by way of the main page at www.ppinyot.com and report back? Thanks, Paul. Article: 319258 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Some one please Test ppinyot.com TO page. References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 17:12:47 GMT > > Q - Would some one please try the TO page by way of the main page at > www.ppinyot.com and report back? > Works fine for me. I'm using Mozilla Firefox. Ron Article: 319259 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:20:28 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Some one please Test ppinyot.com TO page. References: Message-ID: <59118$42da935f$4232bd57$19002@COQUI.NET> Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: >> >> Q - Would some one please try the TO page by way of the main page at >> www.ppinyot.com and report back? >> > > Works fine for me. I'm using Mozilla Firefox. > > Ron OK here, Mozilla 1.7.3 -Bill Article: 319260 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Some one please Test ppinyot.com TO page. References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 17:22:16 GMT It appears to be working just fine with Netscape 7.2 and XP as well. Jeff Paul P wrote: > I received feedback about my site not properly displaying the Transoceanic > page. The feedback was, " Hello i can not get anyware on your site,It > allmost come up but pops off to my desktop? realy wanted to check the > Zenith TO info, Thank You..... " > > Of course is seems fine on my computer. > > Q - Would some one please try the TO page by way of the main page at > www.ppinyot.com and report back? > > Thanks, > > Paul. > > -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319261 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" Subject: what does this automotive ratio fit? Message-ID: <1121622593.b23f89165dca8ab85dc33f16114b94fd@teranews> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 10:49:51 -0700 must be a Ford (mid 60s?) - AM only, with push buttons, Philco brand, number stanped onto side of chassis is C D22A-18806 Also stamped in ink is AB (maybe the letters are supposed to follow the stamped number) and also 260-137. Inside is a chassis that seems to only have 3 !!! transistors on it plus a power transistor mounted to the pot metal casting that makes up the front panel, and a bunch of those brown blob thick film circuits. If I had to guess by imagining numbers that might be date codes, I get 1971, but it looks a little older. by the way, if anyone wants it, let me know - it's next stop is E-bay thanks -- Bill to Email me, repair this address and use it: william_ b_ noble at msn dot com also check out http://www.wbnoble.com Article: 319262 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> <1121574838.bd40654232bac6dd3a72896f0c13aeda@teranews> <1121611078.f5c9e8eb33ed537479e3cdd855fc3e21@teranews> <53326$42da7530$4232bd57$10318@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? Message-ID: <1121622701.1b7075d55d4bbf8680e5e2ef5af8e947@teranews> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 10:51:37 -0700 alright, I'll bite - what do I have to do to get a copy of that song? "David Stinson" wrote in message news:kSuCe.6233$BK1.5154@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > -ex- wrote: > >> There seems to be many versions of a "You Done Tore Out My Heart And >> Stomped That Sucker Flat." Take your pick. > > And my personal Corn-Tree Music favorite: > > "I've Been Flushed From the Bathroom of Your Heart." > > (chorus) > "I've been flushed from the bathroom of your heart. > You said your love was real, > but it was just a faaaaaaaaaaa-art... > Now that swirlin' water says that we must part, > 'cuz I been flushed from the bathroom of your heart." > (wahhhh--deee--wahhhh-wahhhh, TWANG!) > > D.S. Article: 319263 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: beerbarrel Subject: Re: Some one please Test ppinyot.com TO page. Message-ID: References: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 14:08:42 -0400 looks good...IE 6.0.2800.1106 On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 17:05:58 GMT, "Paul P" wrote: >I received feedback about my site not properly displaying the Transoceanic >page. The feedback was, " Hello i can not get anyware on your site,It >allmost come up but pops off to my desktop? realy wanted to check the >Zenith TO info, Thank You..... " > >Of course is seems fine on my computer. > >Q - Would some one please try the TO page by way of the main page at >www.ppinyot.com and report back? > >Thanks, > >Paul. > Article: 319264 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <1121622593.b23f89165dca8ab85dc33f16114b94fd@teranews> Subject: here's another one to figure out Re: what does this automotive ratio fit? Message-ID: <1121623944.31e0efd686b0d641b5728b4f48e549e8@teranews> Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 11:12:21 -0700 ok, in addition to the radio below, I have another ford radio, this one is AM/FM/8-track, made in Canada, stamped 1FD4505 02757, and on the side stamped D7AF-19A168 185. The dial says Aeronutronic. A mounting bracket on the back of ihe radio says D40A-18A998-AA "william_b_noble" wrote in message news:1121622593.b23f89165dca8ab85dc33f16114b94fd@teranews... > must be a Ford (mid 60s?) - AM only, with push buttons, Philco brand, > number stanped onto side of chassis is C D22A-18806 Also stamped in ink > is AB (maybe the letters are supposed to follow the stamped number) and > also 260-137. Inside is a chassis that seems to only have 3 !!! > transistors on it plus a power transistor mounted to the pot metal casting > that makes up the front panel, and a bunch of those brown blob thick film > circuits. If I had to guess by imagining numbers that might be date > codes, I get 1971, but it looks a little older. > > by the way, if anyone wants it, let me know - it's next stop is E-bay > > thanks > > -- > Bill > > to Email me, repair this address and use it: > william_ b_ noble at msn dot com > > also check out http://www.wbnoble.com > Article: 319265 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:13:25 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:zNuCe.14952$3o4.1756@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > xrongor wrote: >> i already answered this. >> >> "who knows where they came from. so instead of guessing, im asking..." > > OK, so let me see if I got it right this time. > > You couldn't find it for free online, so you assumed that Brenda > must have stolen it from somewhere. > > Then when you got called on it, you backtrack and come up with > a variety of explanations as how how you didn't mean it when > you said: > >> how did you LEGALLY get them in such a format where you can sell them? >> or did you steal them off the avia or soundvision discs? >> >> randy > > Then you change the subject and go off on a rant about how the > quality of the images must be inferior due to all the compression > of the DVD format. > > Who was it picking a fight then? > > This is what's wrong with this group. When somebody offers to do > something for the benefit of others, they immediately get their > ass handed back to them. oh man you got issues and im gonna pay... you snip and twist like an ole pro. go away. randy Article: 319266 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:16:36 -0600 Message-ID: References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> <1121574838.bd40654232bac6dd3a72896f0c13aeda@teranews> <1121611078.f5c9e8eb33ed537479e3cdd855fc3e21@teranews> "william_b_noble" wrote in message news:1121611078.f5c9e8eb33ed537479e3cdd855fc3e21@teranews... > thanks randy, but that's the wrong "time after time" - this particular one > is a totally stupid little ditty - a parody, no doubt, the entire lyrics > of which consist of the title, repeated over and over to a rather banal > tune - most assuredly not a Jazz (or anything else, except absurdity) > classic. > > bill (still seeking the song) (and, I need a copy of "Love took my heart > and stomped that sucker flat", and "I'm getting tears in my ears, lying on > my back, crying over losing you" - both are real songs) ah hillbilly music!! sorry, cant help ya much there. that ole sinatra song was the first thing that came to mind and i knew it was re-recorded many times so i thought that might be it. maybe one of those talking fish sings the song you are looking for randy Article: 319267 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Theremin- Again! Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 13:19:44 -0600 Message-ID: References: i'd like to look at it if you dont mind... im guessing im not alone so probably a link to it would be best. since you did the hard part, if you email it to xrongor yahoo i could stick it up somewhere and post a link. thx randy "Carl WA1KPD" wrote in message news:nr6dnTnWP4Mo80ffRVn-1g@comcast.com... > When all the discussions about Theremins came up I remembered in the back > of my mind a PE article that showed how to convert as AC/DC radio to one. > Well I found a copy of that issue at the NE show yesterday which was also > full of all sorts of memories. (August 62 and I would have been 9 at the > time). Anyway if anyone wants a copy I will scan it and either post or > email it. > > -- > Carl > WA1KPD > Visit My Boatanchor Collection at > http://home.comcast.net/~chnord/wa1kpd.html > > Article: 319268 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: Some one please Test ppinyot.com TO page. References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:32:27 GMT Hi Paul, I'm using Mozilla Firefox, and the page displays correctly at 800x600 and 1024x768. Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Paul P wrote: > I received feedback about my site not properly displaying the Transoceanic > page. The feedback was, " Hello i can not get anyware on your site,It > allmost come up but pops off to my desktop? realy wanted to check the > Zenith TO info, Thank You..... " > > Of course is seems fine on my computer. > > Q - Would some one please try the TO page by way of the main page at > www.ppinyot.com and report back? > > Thanks, > > Paul. > > Article: 319269 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: 21fjp22 tube - testing Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 12:31:04 -0700 Message-ID: <7727-42DAB1F8-312@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: <1121625791.115278.170090@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> >From Frenchy: >Do these boosters usually NOT do >isolating unless they are marked as >such? Correct. Also, the combo type was slightly bigger physically. >If not, I would guess that indicates it was >NOT put on there to fix a short (?) Correctamente. >And also if so, I'm back to wondering >what the heck it's doing there if I'm >getting great readings without it. Possibly, the jug was hit with a rejuvinator and the brightener was hung on for maintenance. This was common practice. Try first running it without the brightener and see how long it holds up. If it goes flat in a few days, the above was probably the scenario. >Thanks!..... You're very welcome. Bill(oc) Article: 319270 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: NTSC setup patterns on DVD References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:54:06 GMT xrongor wrote: > oh man you got issues and im gonna pay... > > you snip and twist like an ole pro. go away. > > randy Exactly the response I expected. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319271 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 16:11:05 -0400 Message-ID: <3jvsauFrpmphU1@individual.net> References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> <3ju7cdFrmjb2U1@individual.net> Larry wrote: > Radio Rambler wrote in news:3ju7cdFrmjb2U1@individual.net: > >> $ ls /mnt/hda5/mp3s/rock/70s/ > /home/robert/rock_playlist.lst. > > Ah, spoken like a true Linux fan....(c; > > Can't everyone remember cryptic unix command line syntax? Reminds me of > CP/M....or Fortran.....or (gulp) MS-DOS! i sometimes use that because i WANT to. the recent linux distributions dont even require you to use the command line for anything, however, the commandline utils are more powerful & better than anything DOS offered. > > I fooled with Linux for a couple of years. Linux' big problem is NOONE > EVER FINISHES WHAT HE STARTED! They get to Beta 0.998g version and their > youthful short attention span wanders into the next gee whiz project. At > that point, noone ever fixes the bugs and you're stuck with 0.998g unless > some other hacker picks up the project. at one time. that may have been true, however, there has been a lot of major improvements within the last couple of years & there have been several thousands of applications written since then. there are many more maintainers & code writers participating as well. > > Try MP3 Catalog Pro. I can't find a bug in it. > sorry, i dont use windows. not since 2000. i allready seen what a joke winXP is. i have cleaned / wiped too many comprimised XP boxes for friends. i would end up partitioning the HD & install linux for dual booting & they found out too, how much better linux was. the bottom line is that microsoft is a criminal organization who has been convicted of being a monopoly & used dirty tactics to destroy any competing company, then used their ill gotten gains to settle out of court when they are found guilty of whatever got them sued to begin with. right now, to date, microsoft has paid several billion dollors in out of court settlements alone. here is some interesting reading http://www.vanwensveen.nl/rants/microsoft/IhateMS.html -- The Shadow Knows Article: 319272 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> <1121574838.bd40654232bac6dd3a72896f0c13aeda@teranews> <1121611078.f5c9e8eb33ed537479e3cdd855fc3e21@teranews> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 15:56:29 -0500 william_b_noble wrote: > ...and, I need a copy of "Love took my heart > and stomped that sucker flat". I think I have that somewhere - along with "Drop Kick Me Jesus - Through the Goal Posts of Life"... both were from around 1977, IIRC... I'll see if I can find them. best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319273 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Some one please Test ppinyot.com TO page. References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 16:07:04 -0500 Paul P wrote: > I received feedback about my site not properly displaying the Transoceanic > page. The feedback was, " Hello i can not get anyware on your site,It > allmost come up but pops off to my desktop? realy wanted to check the > Zenith TO info, Thank You..... " > Q - Would some one please try the TO page by way of the main page at > www.ppinyot.com and report back? Looking at your code - you're using front page which relies heavily on recent JavaScript; and more recent HTML that relies on absolute positioning (X,Y) and layers - so Netscape 4.7 and older (and browsers based on same, like older versions of AOL browser) will exhibit the symptoms described. Send them a note to upgrade to something reasonable (Netscape 7.01 Mac, 7.2 on PC & Linux; I.E. 5.x on either. -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319274 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: DeForest Lot References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:30:02 GMT Art, looks like you hit the mother load! Art's Antique Radios wrote: > I have posted pictures in the binaries group of all the Deforest stuff that > came in the recent lot plus some other tubes found in the same lot > > I did not repost the Audion Detector > > This stuff so way before the era I collect (30's and 40's) so I am truly > searching for info and values. If I have misidentified any of the tubes, > please let me know. At this time, they are all untested. > > In the lot I also received an cool 01A tube tester that comes in an oval > metal box that closes with a canvas strap. That I am keeping because it > looks neat. > > Still sorting boxes for more :) > > > Article: 319275 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> <1121574838.bd40654232bac6dd3a72896f0c13aeda@teranews> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 16:45:20 -0500 william_b_noble wrote: > gary - in your collection, do you have a 45, one side of which is a song > called "time after time" - came out in 1968 to 1970 - don't remember exactly > when - by the guy who was the producer for "patches" as I recall - I gotta > get a copy of that record. By "patches" - do you mean Dickie Lee's "Patches"? or a group named "Patches"? Since you're not sure about the time - Cindy Lauper did a song called "Time after Time" that used the title over and over - and it was picked up and played often by Miles Davis late in his career... best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319276 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: off topic ebay/paypal question Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:47:36 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1121606420.176397.123770@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6RtCe.4922$oZ.4305@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:6RtCe.4922$oZ.4305@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net... > As for using Paypal with a credit card, I don't know what the problem would > be with the seller -- or that they would even know that you used a credit > card instead of a bank account. But I don't know -- I'm not a Paypal > merchant. The seller knows you paid with a credit card. All they have to do is look at the transaction in their PayPal account. It says whether it was paid by direct transfer, e-check (I've not really seen any difference between those two) or credit card. Article: 319277 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: Theremin- Again! Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 15:54:37 -0600 Message-ID: References: Yes...I'd sure like to see the article. I'm in the process of building a Theremin right now...the one that uses the six 12AU7 tubes. It's been slow going, but it IS happening...finally. Can't wait to hear the weird sounds. I've seen the site for converting the battery radio into one, but seeing how to convert an AC/DC set to one would be interesting too. Ben "xrongor" wrote in message news:dbeb0j$b7dl$1@news3.infoave.net... > i'd like to look at it if you dont mind... im guessing im not alone so > probably a link to it would be best. since you did the hard part, if you > email it to xrongor yahoo i could stick it up somewhere and post a link. > > thx > randy > > "Carl WA1KPD" wrote in message > news:nr6dnTnWP4Mo80ffRVn-1g@comcast.com... >> When all the discussions about Theremins came up I remembered in the back >> of my mind a PE article that showed how to convert as AC/DC radio to >> one. >> Well I found a copy of that issue at the NE show yesterday which was also >> full of all sorts of memories. (August 62 and I would have been 9 at the >> time). Anyway if anyone wants a copy I will scan it and either post or >> email it. >> >> -- >> Carl >> WA1KPD >> Visit My Boatanchor Collection at >> http://home.comcast.net/~chnord/wa1kpd.html >> >> > > Article: 319278 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: CC-AWA Summer Swap Meet in TWO few weeks Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 22:51:12 GMT The CC-AWA Summer Swap Meet is just TWO few weeks away. On Saturday July 30th. in Valdese NC. Located just off I-40 it's easy to get to from anywhere. You can find lots of details and driving directions here on our Summer Swap web page; http://cc_awa.homestead.com/Summer.html Load up the trucks, we hope to see you there. Ron Article: 319279 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Cathedral Finishing, How do you do it??? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:24:49 -0400 I'd like to get ideas from other refinishers on how you finish the cutouts in a cathedral cabinet, the edge of the panel that's often routed in some decorative fashion. Usually the edge wood reveals the plys and is not too great to look at in it's natural form. My standard is to have several lac coats on the piece, then darken in the cuts by painting with an acrylic mix to get the right shade, usualy red and black. I can then wipe any excess off with a damp rag. I'd like to spray these areas, but keeping the toner off the face is difficult. How many other ways are there??????? Ken Article: 319280 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: norml Subject: Re: CHRS benefit auction Message-ID: References: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 23:24:01 GMT Thanks for the update (I had to leave about 12:30) and the photos, Scott, (If anybody cares, that's me, second from right in the Gunsmoke pictures.) Norm "Scott W. Harvey" wrotf: >norml wrote: >> Here's a brief report on today's C.H.R.S. benefit auction and KRE >> celebration. >> >> The day started out badly--a horrendous accident occurred on Interstate 80 >> at the Ashby ramp about 2:30AM. All four eastbound lanes were still closed >> as I cleared the Bay Bridge toll plaza at about 8:30. The start of our >> event was put off by half an hour to allow people to get through the >> traffic. > >Agreed....Absolutely horrible traffic, as bad as any I have ever seen. >The last 2 miles of my trip to this event took > 45 minutes to navigate. >If I hadn't thought of getting off 580 in Emeryville it would have taken >another 30 minutes, easily. I'm nomally a pretty mellow guy, but this >one had me pounding on my steering wheel in frustration. > > >> >> I would say that at least a couple of hundred people showed up--mostly male >> and of a certain age. But there was an encouraging number of couples--even >> young ones with kids. > >That's about right. I did notice that many regulars that would normally >go to something like this were NOT in attendance. I wonder if some >folks simply got freaked out by the impossible traffic conditions and >stayed home? > > >> >> Plenty of folding chairs were set out under canopies for auction >> participants. A good thing--since we had a warm, cloudless day. > >That blue canopy was a great addition...last year's auction left me way >sunburned. > >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03309.jpg > >> >> We had a grill with sausages, drinks, chips, etc. > >Very nice sausages, better than the usual hot-dog fare of most meets. >The sausages were donated by a local meat company, too..... At $5.00 a >pop for a sausage, chips and a beverage, I'll bet it added a few bucks >to the kitty. > >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03308.jpg > >> >> Entertainment included a couple of bands > >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03310.jpg >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03311.jpg >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03312.jpg >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03313.jpg >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03314.jpg >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03315.jpg > >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03354.jpg >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03355.jpg > > > >> and the recreation of a Gunsmoke >> radio episode by members of Broadcast Legends, an organization of veteran >> and retired Bay Area broadcasters. (Full disclosure: I played a supporting >> role in this production.) > >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03316.jpg >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03317.jpg >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03318.jpg >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03319.jpg > > >> >> The auction featured about 100 items of varying degrees of desirability. > >There was actually 180+ auction lots, plus lots and lots of interesting >(and very cheap) stuff at the flea market. > >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03270.jpg > >I got a fully intact Philco 39-116 chassis complete with esteucheon, >antenna and a perfect speaker at the flea for $20.00 and several other >pretty cool items for $5.00 and $10.00. > >The auction had a bit too many lots IMHO.....The event went about three >hours past its scheduled 2PM end time and only a few dozen diehards >stayed until the very end. I think the sheer abundance of items tended >to depress the prices a bit. Most stuff went for WAY cheap at this >auction. Nice, restorable cathedrals going for $20, $30, $40.00 in most >cases, and almost nothing cracking the $100.00 mark. If you're a >Cathedral guy, this was almost a dream auction. > >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03339.jpg >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03338.jpg >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03358.jpg >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03356.jpg > > >> >> The historic KRE building was open with items from the C.H.R.S. collection >> on view. Operators of the two AM transmitters on the site--KVTO, 1400Khz >> 1KW and KFRC 610Khz, 5Kw--provided explanations of those devices. The site >> is on a tidal plain so is an excellent AM xmtr site. (I have been told that >> salinity of the adjoining pond exceeds that of the bay and the ocean.) But >> in a conversation with veteran Bay Area radio personality Carter B. Smith, >> I learned the site has other amenities. He told me of a time when he worked >> there in the early '60s that the water was so high a boat was required to >> reach the station. He climbed in through a window and called the owner, who >> recommended that the staff start acquiring sand bags. The water was already >> in the wiring troughs so Carter signed the station off and went home. >> >> The new club ham station was put on the air for its first QSOs. > >That damned traffic.....I missed the first QSO at 10AM because of it. >These photos are from the second QSO, which occured at 10:15. They are >working a contact from Arizona on 20 meters who has been a Ham since >1947. Seems rather appropriate for the event. > > >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03290.jpg >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03292.jpg >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03293.jpg >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03295.jpg > >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03320.jpg >> >> C.H.R.S. president and spark plug Steve Kushman > >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03284.jpg > > > and volunteers from the > > membership deserve all kudos for this splendid event. > >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03278.jpg >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03288.jpg >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03289.jpg >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03287.jpg >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/sm_DSC03275.jpg > > >> >> Photos will be posted on the C.H.R.S web site in a few days. > >No need to wait.....There are some picures available already here: > >http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/80g/KRE_LIVE_2005/ > > > >-Scott Article: 319281 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:53:41 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Cathedral Finishing, How do you do it??? References: Message-ID: <3afce$42daef8c$4232bd1b$13192@COQUI.NET> Ken wrote: > I'd like to get ideas from other refinishers on how you finish the > cutouts in a cathedral cabinet, the edge of the panel that's often > routed in some decorative fashion. Usually the edge wood reveals the > plys and is not too great to look at in it's natural form. My standard > is to have several lac coats on the piece, then darken in the cuts by > painting with an acrylic mix to get the right shade, usualy red and > black. I can then wipe any excess off with a damp rag. I'd like to spray > these areas, but keeping the toner off the face is difficult. How many > other ways are there??????? Ken > In the past I had tediously painted them with a small brush somewhere after the first coat. Two reasons for doing it after the first coat. One-you have a smoother finish to paint on and two-if you go 'outside the lines' you can easily sand off the boo-boo on the lacquer rather than on bare wood. And since its between coats, another coat will follow and coverup everything. Here lately since I've discovered 101 Uses for TransTint Dye I've simply been going over the edges with a fingertip dipped in the dye. Thats much faster and relatively error-free. Of course for several days afterwards the fingertip looks like you voted in the most recent Iraqi election :) -Bill Article: 319282 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Cathedral Finishing, How do you do it??? References: <3afce$42daef8c$4232bd1b$13192@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 20:09:43 -0400 You could be confused with an Iraqi voter. That's what I'm using now, Transtint, mixes great with lac for a toner, but haven't tried it full strength. I'll use a Qtip maybe. Ken -ex- wrote: > Ken wrote: > >> I'd like to get ideas from other refinishers on how you finish the >> cutouts in a cathedral cabinet, the edge of the panel that's often >> routed in some decorative fashion. Usually the edge wood reveals the >> plys and is not too great to look at in it's natural form. My standard >> is to have several lac coats on the piece, then darken in the cuts by >> painting with an acrylic mix to get the right shade, usualy red and >> black. I can then wipe any excess off with a damp rag. I'd like to >> spray these areas, but keeping the toner off the face is difficult. >> How many other ways are there??????? Ken >> > In the past I had tediously painted them with a small brush somewhere > after the first coat. Two reasons for doing it after the first coat. > One-you have a smoother finish to paint on and two-if you go 'outside > the lines' you can easily sand off the boo-boo on the lacquer rather > than on bare wood. And since its between coats, another coat will > follow and coverup everything. > > Here lately since I've discovered 101 Uses for TransTint Dye I've simply > been going over the edges with a fingertip dipped in the dye. Thats > much faster and relatively error-free. Of course for several days > afterwards the fingertip looks like you voted in the most recent Iraqi > election :) > > -Bill Article: 319283 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 20:17:35 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Cathedral Finishing, How do you do it??? References: <3afce$42daef8c$4232bd1b$13192@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <7fb16$42daf528$4232bd1b$9192@COQUI.NET> Ken wrote: > You could be confused with an Iraqi voter. That's what I'm using now, > Transtint, mixes great with lac for a toner, but haven't tried it full > strength. I'll use a Qtip maybe. Ken Hehe, they use the fingertip voting ink here in Puerto Rico also. I tried the Q-tip...that works too but I came away feeling that I still had better control with the finger tip for the larger swipes. Q-tip is a must in tight curves and corners. Another trick with the dye. If you've ever used that pink-looking litz wire this dye will color it. However - it is water soluble so if you mix it up with just a small bit of lacquer it has some staying power. I think you could use this same approach on darkening the after-market fabric wire in white/yellow/etc that doesn't seem to take to darkening with stain. Clorox for cleanup! -Bill Article: 319284 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 2050 tube? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <11djfsdc6c7en99@corp.supernews.com> <2mvCe.2511$Zx3.1886@trndny05> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 00:44:24 GMT In article <2mvCe.2511$Zx3.1886@trndny05>, bob.weiss@verizon.net says... > > >Carter Grabarczyk wrote: > >> Gas filled triode aka Thyratron...used for control applications. See any >> tube manual from the 50s-60s-70s for characteristics. > >The 2050 is a TETRODE thyratron, not a triode. > >6.3V, 600mA filament, 1.3 kV, 100 mA maximum anode ratings. > >Bob Weiss N2IXK > > SOmeone said that they use the things in some Jukeboxes..... if anyone has any use for several of these..... just yell... I have several on the shelf... just taking up space.... better in your stash than in mine.... make cheap offer... John k9uwa Article: 319285 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Cathedral Finishing, How do you do it??? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 00:47:29 GMT In article , wklwns@cox.net says... > > Mohawk Refinishing Products.... now makes Lacquer Toners in gizmos like a felt tip pen... same colors available as the spray bombs... and your finger doesn't look bad after doing a couple radios... John k9uwa Article: 319286 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Subject: Re: what are old theater amps being used for? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 00:53:09 GMT "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com... > Some people appear to be eager to buy old theater amplifiers. > > Dumb question: what are they being used for? Overpowered home theater > setup? Movie equipment collections? Stripped for parts (I guess some have > tubes desired in the audiophool community)? > > Just curious . . . > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > Most old theatre sound systems only reproduced up to 5 or 6 kHz, so they probably wouldn't sound the best in a home theatre setup. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Tue Jul 19 10:50:14 EDT 2005 Article: 319287 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 2050 tube? Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 18:09:09 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <11dm08f1chakb35@corp.supernews.com> Reply-To: "David Axt" References: <11djfsdc6c7en99@corp.supernews.com> <2mvCe.2511$Zx3.1886@trndny05> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 39 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!news2.wam.umd.edu!nntp.abs.net!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-08!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319287 "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:IXCCe.162819$_o.148479@attbi_s71... > In article <2mvCe.2511$Zx3.1886@trndny05>, bob.weiss@verizon.net says... >> >> >>Carter Grabarczyk wrote: >> >>> Gas filled triode aka Thyratron...used for control applications. See any >>> tube manual from the 50s-60s-70s for characteristics. >> >>The 2050 is a TETRODE thyratron, not a triode. >> >>6.3V, 600mA filament, 1.3 kV, 100 mA maximum anode ratings. >> >>Bob Weiss N2IXK >> >> > SOmeone said that they use the things in some Jukeboxes..... > > if anyone has any use for several of these..... just yell... > I have several on the shelf... just taking up space.... better > in your stash than in mine.... make cheap offer... > > John k9uwa > Yes they are for juke boxes. A friend of my owns a 50's diner and needs some for his juke box controllers (at the table?). Anyhow since I am an electronics buff he told me to keep and eye peeled for them. I would like to have them for him but have no idea what they are even worth. -David From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Tue Jul 19 10:50:14 EDT 2005 Article: 319288 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: 1932 Philco NASH radio Lines: 15 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 01:40:00 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.6.126 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1121650800 67.53.6.126 (Sun, 17 Jul 2005 20:40:00 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 20:40:00 CDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn12feed!worldnet.att.net!24.30.200.11!news-east.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319288 Someone asked if I could help them. They are restoring a 1938 NASH and want to try to get the radio working. It is a Philco NC is the Model AC-989 is the Nash marking Does anyone understand these markings and what they mean? Anyone have schematics diagrams or words of wisdom (other than run away fast !) Jim Article: 319289 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Did a village reclaim it's idiot? References: <1121169727.756209.103780@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121256937.068188.19040@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 01:53:51 GMT Skippy wrote: > > I want to buy your DVD. Please respond offlist. Last seen on the 13th. Has he taken his meds, or were they forcibly given to him? Perhaps he's nice and comfy now in an "I love myself" jacket. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319290 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <1121169727.756209.103780@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121256937.068188.19040@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Did a village reclaim it's idiot? Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 21:04:19 -0500 Message-ID: <42db0e1a$0$32206$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> "Shhhh, you'll wake th' loonie...." "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:PYDCe.27427$aA5.15907@tornado.socal.rr.com... > Skippy wrote: >> >> I want to buy your DVD. Please respond offlist. > > Last seen on the 13th. > > Has he taken his meds, or were they forcibly given to him? > Perhaps he's nice and comfy now in an "I love myself" jacket. > > Jeff > > > > -- > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319291 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Some one please Test ppinyot.com TO page. From: "Haggis" telus.net> References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 03:12:06 GMT Paul P. wrote: Q - Would some one please try the TO page by way of the main page at>>>> Working fine in the boonies of Western Canada. (Win XP) Haggis. Article: 319292 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "sphipps" Subject: Re: Today's yard sale find Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 22:44:50 -0500 Message-ID: <11dm9e9ga63cmf8@corp.supernews.com> References: <1121531644.522763.146170@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> That's a beauty. Whatever you do don't sell it! Like new leather TOs are very few and far between... "twomuttheads" wrote in message news:1121531644.522763.146170@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Zenith Transoceanic, Y600L (actually stamped on inside back door is > MODEL Y600). Yep, leather T/O. Article: 319293 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> <1121495337.893887.191730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8onhd1hf9j63flu276j1lit0atm27lomfr@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Watzit? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 00:20:18 -0400 "Carter Grabarczyk" a opiné: > Syl wrote: > > > > Why would a crystal be damaged with DC ? > > > > Syl, > (snipped for brievity)... > I did say *no* DC, but I may be being too conservative. You might be > able to put a volt or two of DC on crystal headphones without damage > but...how lucky do you feel? Strangely I feel very lucky, here is why; A crystal element look essentially like a capacitor to a source. Connecting a DC source to a crystal element can not damage it unless you overload it. Just like a 10V capacitor to which you would feed 150V. Feeding DC to a crystal element will have the same effect as to a small value capacitor. It will "charge" quickly then go back to it's original rest position. It will _not_ stay "twisted". It draws no current either as it is a high impedance source. Just to prove it to myself, I took a crystal phono cartridge and fed it with 35VDC, then reverse the voltage again and again, everytime I could hear a little "click" when the contact was made. The element hasn't suffered any ill effect. I knew that... Did the same to a Piezo element, 35VDC, and reversed the probes. Click, click, nothing else. As stated above, the only way you can damage a crystal is to overload it with either DC or AC voltage. Crystal cutter heads have a limit of 450VRMS. I wouldn't apply such high voltage in pure DC, but a 35-50VDC won't even make it realize it's been fed DC. Now what was the limit of those headphones I don't know, could very well be 100VRMS, but I am sure 10VDC or more couldn't hurt them. Especially in those years as the element had to be quite a chunk to offer any usable sensitivity. Note that it is not good practice to feed DC to a crystal unless you wish to bias the element for some reasons (as a transducers to convert mechanical vibrations to voltage). Best regards, Syl Article: 319294 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Anyone familiar with Eddystone? From: "Haggis" telus.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 04:39:46 GMT On my usual Sunday morning flea market crawl, I picked up an Eddystone Model 850/4 communications receiver today. In my haste (I hate to miss a bargain :-) I didn't pay attention to the frequency coverage (10 - 600 Khz) so really have no use for it, except as an ornament which I have no room for. Cosmetically it's very good (with the exception of one broken knob) and it does work with no hum, but there's no VLF activity around these parts. Any suggestions on what to do with it? Is it feasible to attempt to convert it (or make a converter) to cover at least the BC band? or just part it out (it's too heavy to reasonably mail). I mentioned it on the Yahoo Eddystone User Group and have been told that only 200 of this model were made (Grade: Ebay "RARE" - guess that's an option :-) ) so of course I haven't been able to locate a schematic or much more information on it, except that it was made in 1962. Big brute of a power transformer - Primary 110 - 220 Volts, Secondaries 250 - 0 - 250 @110 Ma, a couple 6 Volt @ 4.2 and 0.3 Amps and a 5.0 Volt @ 2.0 Amps. 13 tubes, etc. etc. These things were really 'built' with geared flywheel tuning, cast aluminum panel and parts of the chassis, 'prettily' laced wiring and so on. Your ideas are solicited and welcome (I'll even laugh at the asinine ones which have been known to follow :-)). Cheers! Haggis. Article: 319295 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 1932 Philco NASH radio From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 05:04:28 GMT In article , oldradio@wi.rr.com says... > > Ah... http://www.nostalgiaair.org/Resources/ look under Nash looks like Riders/ Philco book 6 page 80 is model AC-989 to me... Other than that.... only way I will do one is if the customer agrees to pay for a solid state vibrator replacement... as well as of course the restoration of the radio... John k9uwa Article: 319296 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 2050 tube? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <11djfsdc6c7en99@corp.supernews.com> <2mvCe.2511$Zx3.1886@trndny05> <11dm08f1chakb35@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <1RGCe.161335$x96.89424@attbi_s72> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 05:10:21 GMT In article <11dm08f1chakb35@corp.supernews.com>, daxtATpacifierDOTcom says... > > > >Yes they are for juke boxes. A friend of my owns a 50's diner and needs >some for his juke box controllers (at the table?). > >Anyhow since I am an electronics buff he told me to keep and eye peeled for >them. > >I would like to have them for him but have no idea what they are even worth. > >-David > > > Well a quick look on FleaBay and I see under completed auctions one auction for 5 new ones in a sleeve at 27 bucks... a couple of others at 10 bucks for a pair.... ballpark 5 bux maybe on a good day.... email me and will see tomorrow how many are there..... maybe 6 or 8 I think... cheaper than fleabay as I don't have to answer a weeks worth of stupid questions ... real email address is k9uwa at arrl dot net John k9uwa Article: 319297 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 2050 tube? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <11djfsdc6c7en99@corp.supernews.com> <2mvCe.2511$Zx3.1886@trndny05> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 05:12:38 GMT In article , jmsent2@comcast.net says... > > > >> >Yup. In many Seeburgs and maybe some others. Only needed when a remote wall >box is connected. > That was the part that is missing from my Seeburg! after pricing that part plus a wallbox..... and thinking about running 75 feet or so up through attic of multi conductor wire.... decided it was a whole lot easier to stick a little AM transmitter in the bottom of the Juke ..... yup I have to get off butt and go push buttons..... John k9uwa Article: 319298 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 01:21:17 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Watzit? References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> <1121495337.893887.191730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8onhd1hf9j63flu276j1lit0atm27lomfr@4ax.com> Message-ID: Syl wrote: > > As stated above, the only way you can damage a crystal > is to overload it with either DC or AC voltage. To wit...many of the old MOPA ham xmtrs would ruin a modern crystal. Thats why the big old xtals are necessary for some of those rigs. I don't know how that translates to old record-players but I'm sure it does in some fashion. -Bill Article: 319299 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Some one please Test ppinyot.com TO page. From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 05:27:14 GMT In article , p.pinyotREMOVE@REMOVEworldnet.attREMOVE.netREMOVE says... > > > >Thanks, > >Paul. > > Now you know why I use Nutscrape 4.7 composer to write my Website.. any old piece of junk browser will see it OK.... yup it doens't have fancy stuff in it.... dont care... it sells radios... John k9uwa Article: 319300 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Not mine, but interesting.... either a tuner or convertor? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:48:15 +0900 Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5789666618&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT -- Illigitimus non tatum carborundum (Don't let the bastards wear you down) Article: 319301 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Watzit? References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> <1121495337.893887.191730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8onhd1hf9j63flu276j1lit0atm27lomfr@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:02:16 GMT -ex- wrote: > To wit...many of the old MOPA ham xmtrs would ruin a modern crystal. > Thats why the big old xtals are necessary for some of those rigs. Actually, the problem with the old(er) transmitters, is the amount of drive to the crystal. Not the voltage per se, but the actual drive power to the crystal. Especially while trying to get it to vibrate at a 3rd or 5th harmonic. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319302 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Not mine, but interesting.... either a tuner or convertor? From: Wayne Boatwright References: Message-ID: Date: 18 Jul 2005 08:16:05 +0200 On Sun 17 Jul 2005 10:48:15p, Brenda Ann wrote in rec.antiques.radio+phono: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5789666618&ssPage > Name=STRK:MEWA:IT > Tuner. -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* ____________________________________________ Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day. Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974 --- avast! Antivirus: Outbound message clean. Virus Database (VPS): 0528-6, 07/16/2005 Tested on: 7/17/2005 11:11:43 PM avast! - copyright (c) 1988-2005 ALWIL Software. http://www.avast.com Article: 319303 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 02:13:05 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Watzit? References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> <1121495337.893887.191730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8onhd1hf9j63flu276j1lit0atm27lomfr@4ax.com> Message-ID: <7a29b$42db4874$4232be43$13101@COQUI.NET> Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > -ex- wrote: > >> To wit...many of the old MOPA ham xmtrs would ruin a modern crystal. >> Thats why the big old xtals are necessary for some of those rigs. > > > Actually, the problem with the old(er) transmitters, is the > amount of drive to the crystal. Not the voltage per se, but the > actual drive power to the crystal. Especially while trying to > get it to vibrate at a 3rd or 5th harmonic. > > Jeff > Okay. -Bill From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Tue Jul 19 10:50:18 EDT 2005 Article: 319304 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: DSI industries? Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 23:19:16 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <11dmid75rforn05@corp.supernews.com> Reply-To: "David Axt" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 8 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!208.48.142.85!newsfeed.news2me.com!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-09!sn-xit-08!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319304 I just bought (well it was given to me) a Frequency counter from DSI Industries of San Diego. Has anybody ever heard of these guys? I am trying (in vain) to find an owner's manual. Thanks, David From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Tue Jul 19 10:50:18 EDT 2005 Article: 319305 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: Subject: Re: 1932 Philco NASH radio Lines: 5 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:42:18 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.6.126 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1121683338 67.53.6.126 (Mon, 18 Jul 2005 05:42:18 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 05:42:18 CDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.glorb.com!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!newsfeed-west.nntpserver.com!news-west.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319305 I found the page http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/086/M0014086.pdf but there is no schematic with it. Jim Article: 319306 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Cathedral Finishing, How do you do it??? References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 07:24:21 -0400 You can get that same tip on a regular artist brush at hobby stores. Ken William Holohan wrote: > On Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:24:49 -0400, Ken wrote: > > You may want to stop by the cosmetics department in your local > CVS/Brook/Walmart. Pick up a couple of packages of the foam tipped eye > iner brushes(?). I use them all the time doing gold leaf on carved > wood signs. gets righ in the corner of the sharp narrow corners of the > carved letters. Good control of the amount of paint (size in my case) > is an added benifit. Article: 319307 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: 1932 Philco NASH radio Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:28:22 GMT John, Are you offering service for these radios? I'm once again offering original car radio service, but presently I'm limiting these to postwar models. It's a bit strange, but when I was doing strictly conversions I got a continual barrage of calls asking if I did repairs. Now hardly anyone's asking, but I believe I have a few coming. Anyway, if you're interested in referrals let me know. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:wLGCe.161330$x96.138182@attbi_s72... > In article , > oldradio@wi.rr.com > says... >> >> > > Ah... > > http://www.nostalgiaair.org/Resources/ > > look under Nash > > looks like Riders/ Philco book 6 page 80 is model AC-989 to me... > > Other than that.... only way I will do one is if the customer agrees > to pay for a solid state vibrator replacement... as well as of course > the restoration of the radio... > > John k9uwa > Article: 319308 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter Grabarczyk Subject: Re: Watzit? References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> <1121495337.893887.191730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8onhd1hf9j63flu276j1lit0atm27lomfr@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:29:50 GMT Syl wrote: > "Carter Grabarczyk" a opiné: > > >>Syl wrote: >> >>>Why would a crystal be damaged with DC ? >>> >> >>Syl, >> > > (snipped for brievity)... > > >>I did say *no* DC, but I may be being too conservative. You might be >>able to put a volt or two of DC on crystal headphones without damage >>but...how lucky do you feel? > > > > Strangely I feel very lucky, here is why; Syl, interesting test and Lucky is always good! I really don't have a quantitative value and therefore can't debate how much DC you can get away with on the headphones before causing damage; however, the Brush instructions said "no DC" (and believing they know their products better than anyone else, I generally don't go against the manufacturer warnings). 73, Carter K8VT From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Tue Jul 19 10:50:19 EDT 2005 Article: 319309 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: Subject: Re: 1932 Philco NASH radio Lines: 9 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:43:52 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.6.126 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1121687032 67.53.6.126 (Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:43:52 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 06:43:52 CDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.glorb.com!hwmnpeer01.lga!hwmedia!news-server.columbus.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319309 I don't want to do the repair, I'm just a sucker for someone with a sob story. If you want to do it, I'd gladly point Him your way. This is a pre-war tube type car radio. Jim Article: 319310 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter Grabarczyk Subject: Re: Watzit? References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> <1121495337.893887.191730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8onhd1hf9j63flu276j1lit0atm27lomfr@4ax.com> Message-ID: <3CMCe.145$7H5.92@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:43:59 GMT P.S. The following is pure speculation, but we may be comparing apples and oranges. The phono pickup as used in your test, is made to be mechanically moved and set on records for thousands of cycles and thus may be mechanically "beefier" (bigger crystal element). The Brush headphones were extremely light weight and were noted (notorious?) for their mechanical delicacy and susceptibility to breakage. Probably indicative of a very small element and possibly why they said no DC... 73, Carter K8VT Article: 319311 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 11:59:34 GMT Numarks are good. As for the Technics 1200's, they are the top of the line, used by radio stations for many years. There are other pro units out there, but not the same calibre as the Technics. There haven't been many similar models made, probably because the "real" pros either bought them used from the radio station, or simply prefers the same model that he's used to. However there are many other "pro" turntables out there that will do a very satisfactory job. The Numarks are fairly popular. I personally like the Stanton, and have two STR8-80's, which by the way also have 78. There was discussion here recently regarding the straight vs. curved tonearms on turntables. The curved tonearms have a more precise tracking angle, with slight overhang (further than right angle with the spindle) while the straight tonearms have a slightly less than 90 degree angle. The curved is better for wear and for precise tracking, particularly with elliptical needles (although you need anti-skating side pressure to get it right), but the straight is better for reliability -- less chance of skipping or jumping, which is why these are better for those who scratch. For me these work well in the great outdoors when they might not be perfectly level, and where breezes blow, people bump the table as they walk by, etc., these tonearms stick to the records like glue. The cartridges, of course, are Stanton 500's which have round needles, and indeed have 78 versions available. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:C-GdndXO_MXXEUffRVn-3w@comcast.com... > Gary, > > just a note on the turntables... > I have a Numark TT-1 here at home (and my buddy Dan uses one for his pro > record-to-CD process work) > and it also has 78 RPM on it. These turntables are great quality and > relatively cheap on eBay. for some reason the real club DJ's dont like > them > like the Technics 1200's. You or any readers here might consider one if > you > might play any 78's. I think there is a TT-2 also but not sure what > difference is. > > Mark Oppat > > > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:hujCe.3$6f.1@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... >> There are CD's, there are MP3's, there's music on hard drive that can be >> played from a laptop, but I'm sorry to say that NONE of it belongs at the >> car shows that I DJ for. >> >> Here's what got me started: Years ago my car club was asked to host a >> monthly car cruise in St. Pete. The members agreed, but were wondering > who >> could fix their non-working sound system. I had just joined at the time, >> and had never seen it -- but volunteered to check it out. The problem >> was >> with the mixer, and I got it going. Before the first show however, > someone >> bought an 8 channel board. Very nice, but nobody knew how to hook it up > or >> use it. Well, I ended up working it, and quickly became DJ. After >> seeing >> their CD library, I actually used my own -- I had better CD's in the car. > I >> actually enjoyed doing this, but realized I needed more CD's and quick. >> I >> decided to buy two new CD's per month, and before long I would have a >> nice >> music library. >> >> By the second month, I was wondering why I needed to buy all these CD's > when >> I've got the records and a perfectly good turntable at home. So for the >> next cruise, I took the turntable and some records, along with a power > strip >> so I could control the turntable for cueing. This was an instant hit -- >> people went crazy watching me playing the records, and everyone agreed > that >> doo-wops just don't sound the same coming from a laptop. >> >> This eventually morphed into what I have now. Years have gone by, and >> I'm >> continually adding to my collection -- which has really turned into >> something special. I've got all sorts of original-label 45's, many of > them >> DJ copies, and a couple autographed. Word has gotten around, and I've > heard >> comments through the grapevine that "of all the car show DJ's in Tampa >> Bay >> and Southwest Florida, Gary Tayman the "Spin Doctor" is by far the best." >> >> Spinning records is work. You cannot leave the turntables for more than > two >> minutes because you have to change a record. There are indeed a few >> ticks >> and pops, and through the headphones I can hear a little cue burn on >> some. >> You have to be careful to protect the records from the hot sun. You need > a >> table just to hold the records (which I keep in Igloo lunchboxes). I >> take >> about 600 records to a show, which is only a drop in the bucket compared > to >> what you can take with other media. BUT -- unlike a radio station, where >> thousands of people listen, I set up at a car show, where hundreds of > people >> WATCH. People LOVE the records -- they love to watch me cue them, they > love >> to sift through them and find their favorite songs, they love the idea > that >> I'm playing the original recordings, that are just as old as the cars on >> display. Other DJ's use CD's or laptops, and other DJ's don't have >> nearly >> as much fun, or get nearly the response, that I get by spinning records. >> >> Now -- by admission, I have some CD's containing a lot of material. In > fact >> I've got a list of Billboard top hits of each year, 1950-1959, and every >> song catalogued on CD's by year and position. I've also got "mix" CD's >> of >> music, the purpose of which is to allow me to run an errand or take a >> leak >> without the need to be back within two minutes. I'm also ponderirng the >> idea of buying another system, that is physically smaller and more >> practical, to use on occasions where weather threatens, or I can't take > the >> Thunderbird for some reason. This evening for example, there was threat > of >> rain (and it did) so I did not take the sound -- but I could have set up >> a >> smaller system that could easily be put away. But this is only a >> substitute -- I do NOT intend to give up the records because they are >> part >> of the show. >> >> Is Peavey pro? Is ANY of it pro? Yes. It is pro in terms of being >> designed for the purpose. It does not look good in my living room; it is >> designed to be used by bands and commercial sound reinforcement. Maybe > not >> by Charlie Daniels, but by local bands who perform at area clubs, and >> make >> money doing it. If I were doing this full time to make money on a large >> scale, my turntables would not be Stanton STR8-80's; they would be > Technics >> 1200's or even Stanton STR8-150's. (straight vs. curved tonearms are >> another subject which I won't get into now.) There are better mixers, >> better amps, and certainly better speakers I could use. But what I have >> does the job quite well. >> >> "Larry" wrote in message >> news:Xns9695D4DCC36F9noone@63.223.7.253... >> > "Gary Tayman" wrote in >> > news:O08Ce.11592$aY6.10713@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net: >> > >> >> Here's my setup: I start with 600 45 RPM records (DING! No longer >> >> OT), a casket containing two Stanton turntables with Stanton >> >> cartirdges, a digital mixer, a single top loading CD player, mike and >> >> headphones. I have a portable (?) case with amp and equalizer. I've >> >> got two Peavey speakers with poles. That's about it. Pro turntables, >> >> pro mixer, pro amp, pro speakers, and about the only audio processing >> >> is the equalizer. >> >> >> >> >> > >> > I dumped all that. One HP computer with 660GB of hard drives stores a > lot >> > more than my whole library. No more getting caught with my pants down >> > when >> > the customer SAID he wanted Carolina Beach Music, 60's-70's Rock and > when >> > I >> > got there they got bored with that and wanted DISCO or HOUSE to dance >> > to >> > all night....(sigh) >> > >> > Now? No problemo. Open another directory full of 24,000 Disco and > 12,800 >> > House songs and smile. >> > >> > Oh, by the way, let me do YOU a real favor if you dump analog and go to >> > MP3s....MP3 ADVANCED CATALOG PRO from http://www.wizetech.com is the >> > FINEST, and FASTEST MP3 catalog program I've ever seen. It was written > by >> > some great Russian coders. It uses little RAM, works on any Windoze >> > system >> > back to 95, uses very little CPU resources so it doesn't make playback >> > balk, even on a slow machine. I tried it and bought it online from the >> > Russians. You get lifetime upgrades for your measily $29 investment. > It >> > has never made Win98SE or WinXPPro crash. To fill it from your big >> > library, you simply point it at MY Computer and click UPDATE CATALOG. >> > There are hundreds of thousands of songs on my huge drives. It >> > catalogs >> > about 3000 songs a minute, extracting every ID3 tag info from every one > of >> > them! The whole ID3 tag on every song is catalogged and can be >> > searched >> > in >> > any way you can think of. >> > >> > "What's that? You want me to play "Canadian Sunset"? Wait a second." >> > (click to search the entire huge database while still on-the-air.) >> > Type >> > in >> > Canadian Sunset. Computer nearly instantly comes back with every > Canadian >> > Sunset played by any artist in my library. "Did you want it played by >> > Glenn Miller, Harry James, James Last...(etc., etc.)?" "Ah, Benny > Goodman >> > it is." Click and drag Benny Goodman straight from the search results >> > screen to Winamp playlist under the song that's currently playing. >> > POW, >> > one specific song, played by one specific artist out of a hundred > thousand >> > songs INSTANTLY! It will search on any field, any string name..... >> > >> > "What have I got by Bruce Springsteen? Wait a second." (Enter Bruce >> > Springsteen into search box) "Here, this is all his recordings I have. >> > Which would you like to hear?" Customer is thrilled to see them all >> > neatly >> > sorted by Song Title by this little Russian program. He's happy...I'M >> > HAPPY...(c; >> > >> > Using Winamp (free) with the plugins I mentioned, no riding level >> > controls, >> > no manual crossfading, no skipping on the computer, no > dirt/dust/scratches >> > making it sound awful. The box is real easy to transport and use with > the >> > LCD monitor. Once loaded, I can even go to the party!...OR TO THE >> > POTTY!...(c; >> > >> > NONSTOP MUSIC...Pays well...(c; There's not a broadcaster here that >> > has > a >> > finer or smoother delivery system.... >> > >> > -- >> > Larry >> >> >> > > > Article: 319312 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> <1121495337.893887.191730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8onhd1hf9j63flu276j1lit0atm27lomfr@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Watzit? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:12:28 -0400 "Jeffrey D Angus" a opiné > Actually, the problem with the old(er) transmitters, is the > amount of drive to the crystal. Not the voltage per se, but the > actual drive power to the crystal. Especially while trying to > get it to vibrate at a 3rd or 5th harmonic. > > Jeff Exactly. This phenomenon is explained in ARRL books and also in Henley's or Ghirardi's Radio Physics book IIRC. Syl Article: 319313 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sndtech@webtv.net (Chris) Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:09:11 -0400 Message-ID: <56-42DBA9F7-637@storefull-3272.bay.webtv.net> References: Hummmmm, Peavey or EAW....Hummmmm Which would I rather perform through????? Peavey or JBL... Hummmm Which would hold up better on a hard gig???? Hummm Peavey or a hundred different brands????? Peavey is fine for DJ stuff. But with a CS series of amps that have too small of heat sinks and considered way to low of head room in the DC stage Hartlee has NEVER truly made it in the Pro market. Peavey has only really made one great sounding amp and that is the Classic 40 guitar amp. Boy remember the "Black Widow" or "Scorpion" drivers? Most blow up first or second gigs and were replaced with Jbls or Celestions. Yea, I will stick to real PA gear. But for all you Peavey sales reps out there nice try..... superchargedband.com Article: 319314 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> <1121495337.893887.191730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8onhd1hf9j63flu276j1lit0atm27lomfr@4ax.com> <3CMCe.145$7H5.92@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com> Subject: Re: Watzit? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:29:21 -0400 "Carter Grabarczyk" a opiné: > P.S. > > The following is pure speculation, but we may be comparing apples and > oranges. > > The phono pickup as used in your test, is made to be mechanically moved > and set on records for thousands of cycles and thus may be mechanically > "beefier" (bigger crystal element). Hi Carter, The size of the crystal bears no reation to the frequency response. The "beefier" the element, the more sensitive and higher output voltage produce. I would tend to think they used a similar crystal as their higher output phono cartridge. A crystal is a crystal. But again, I don't have a pair on hand. > The Brush headphones were extremely > light weight and were noted (notorious?) for their mechanical delicacy > and susceptibility to breakage. Probably indicative of a very small > element and possibly why they said no DC... It is possible they used a very small crystal for some reasons and to be on the safe side they suggest no DC although a crystal is almost weigthless. True a crystal, whatever size it is, is _very_ sensitive to rapid deceleration, a good bump and Adios crystal. At one time in the early 30ies, a manufacturer offered a crystal speaker to replace those early magnetic high impedance speakers, The ads said higher sensitivity, indestructible and direct connection to the plate of the OP tubes in place of a magnetic speaker. They were essentially what we call now Piezo speakers/tweeters. They may have offered some sort of matching transformer as Piezo elements has almost no impedance. I can't imagine loading an OP tube with 1Mb... I wonder what the frequency response of such speaker must be. I'd like to find one for my collection. Syl Article: 319315 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sndtech@webtv.net (Chris) Subject: Re: Watzit? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:21:40 -0400 Message-ID: <56-42DBACE4-641@storefull-3272.bay.webtv.net> References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> Looks to me like an old signal tracer box for serviceig equiptment. I have a similar one with a bit of a differert look. superchargedband.com Article: 319316 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1121692572.886316.270390@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Riders - how much to spend? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:07:16 GMT "Jon" wrote in message news:1121692572.886316.270390@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Was offered a complete set of 13 Volumes of Riders manuals. What > should > I offer? > Jon, that's only a partial set. There are 23 volumes in the radio series, and 27 additional volumes in the combined TV, home radio, and transistor radio series. Beyond that there are PA manuals and lots more books from Rider's. Be sure what you are being offered before looking for advice on these. For instance is it Rider's Radio volumes 1 through 13? Or is it Rider's Radio abridged 1-5, and volumes 6-17? Or Rider's Radio abridged 1-5, and volumes 6-13? Also, although the information contained in the manuals is the valuable part, condition does make a big difference. Is the set clean and fresh, and readily resellable at a future date? Or is it dirty, damaged, and so musty you don't want to keep them in the house? Also, there are several versions of Riders scans available on DVD and CDs. The quality of the set from http://www.oldradiodata.com/html/products.html is far better than many of the earlier versions, and you can get all 23 volumes of the Riders Radio manuals on one disc from them for only $65. Sometimes you can get the same set from them through eBay for even less! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6546477941 And an even cheaper was is to use the free scans at www.nostalgiaair.org but the scans are not real great, and is not nearly as handy as having the books or discs nearby. jim menning Article: 319317 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: More eBay fun... Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:33:16 GMT http://cbs2.com/water/watercooler_story_198144214.html Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319318 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42DBBEA8.84F272F7@BCPL.net> From: George Nuetzel Subject: Re: 1930 Federal Census References: <42D8FC57.31F9BC8C@BCPL.net> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:37:28 -0400 John, What a great web site this is! Thanks for sharing it with the newsgroup. George John Pelham wrote: > >> For all you genealogists out there, the 1930 census was the first to ask > >> if you owned a radio set. > > > > And the answer was? > > http://www.census.gov/geo/www/mapGallery/maps1930/radios.pdf > > This map illustrates the monumental disadvantage those of us living in the > southeast have, at least when it comes to collecting old radios. > > John Pelham > Suwanee, GA > http://www.radiophile.com Article: 319319 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 1932 Philco NASH radio From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:40:08 GMT In article , oldradio@wi.rr.com says... > > >I don't want to do the repair, I'm just a sucker for someone with a sob >story. > >If you want to do it, I'd gladly point Him your way. This is a pre-war tube >type car radio. > >Jim > > HI Jim .... send him to Gary if you don't want to do it... I do some of them... but have a way too long backlog... plus I as you know prefer fixing up old Wooden Radios... Gary likes those metal beasts!... Schematic is here if you want to look... http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/985/M0013985.pdf but Gary needs the work.. and you and I don't really want it!... sounds like a deal to me! John k9uwa Article: 319320 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Some one please Test ppinyot.com TO page. References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 10:50:43 -0500 John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > Now you know why I use Nutscrape 4.7 composer to write my Website.. > any old piece of junk browser will see it OK.... yup it doens't have > fancy stuff in it.... dont care... it sells radios... Yes, I code to a similar level for most sites for the same reason. However - occasionally - a customer will want a particular "look and feel" that can ONLY be done using some of the newer "stuff"... and if that's what they want - that's what they get. The new website I noted the other day: http://www.earthworksaudio.com is an example- I know it won't work with N/S 4.7, etc. Then again - it's been on-line for nearly a month now - and so far there has been exactly one individual who has let us know that they had a problem - and indeed - they were a Mac user running 4.7 - and somewhat embarrassingly - was their own national sales manager(!!). The month to date (18 days) site statistics shows that they've had 21 visitors with "apparently incompatible browsers" - out of a total of 2585 visitors - or something like .8%. And some of those browsers - I have never seen or ever heard of - Konqueror? Avant Browser? Camino? iCab J? Some of the "incompatibles" that I have heard of were Safari .84; Safari 1.00; MS IE 4.0(!); and so on. IMHO - there is nothing one can do about people trying to run "ancient" and/or oddball browsers; especially when those people represent less than a percent of the "visiting public". as usual - just my .02 -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319321 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Henry Kolesnik" References: Subject: Re: Anyone familiar with Eddystone? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:57:20 GMT Sounds like an interesting piece. Let me know if you decide to sell it. tnx -- 73 Hank WD5JFR "Haggis telus.net>" wrote in message news:moGCe.136959$tt5.136746@edtnps90... > On my usual Sunday morning flea market crawl, I picked up an Eddystone > Model > 850/4 communications receiver today. In my haste (I hate to miss a > bargain > :-) I didn't pay attention to the frequency coverage (10 - 600 Khz) so > really have no use for it, except as an ornament which I have no room for. > Cosmetically it's very good (with the exception of one broken knob) and it > does work with no hum, but there's no VLF activity around these parts. > Any suggestions on what to do with it? Is it feasible to attempt to > convert > it (or make a converter) to cover at least the BC band? or just part it > out > (it's too heavy to reasonably mail). I mentioned it on the Yahoo > Eddystone > User Group and have been told that only 200 of this model were made > (Grade: > Ebay "RARE" - guess that's an option :-) ) so of course I haven't been > able > to locate a schematic or much more information on it, except that it was > made in 1962. Big brute of a power transformer - Primary 110 - 220 Volts, > Secondaries 250 - 0 - 250 @110 Ma, a couple 6 Volt @ 4.2 and 0.3 Amps and > a > 5.0 Volt @ 2.0 Amps. 13 tubes, etc. etc. These things were really 'built' > with geared flywheel tuning, cast aluminum panel and parts of the chassis, > 'prettily' laced wiring and so on. > Your ideas are solicited and welcome (I'll even laugh at the asinine ones > which have been known to follow :-)). > > Cheers! Haggis. Article: 319322 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Can bad caps cause this? References: <1121134565.908633.314660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <9r8Be.70998$ho.11823@bignews6.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2005 07:46:51 GMT Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote: > Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > >> We even bought one of those high voltage bug zapper things to >> deal with annoying pests.... > > > Don't include me in that "we" - Jeff's CONVINCED the VI will stick his > nose in the thing and get run off - I just think it'll smell the place > up as he's too stupid to pull his nose back out... It's ok Randy, I already thought of that. I have the newest model Suck-O-Lux 2005 stink-be-gone exhaust hood rigged up over head. Not only will the smell be gone, so will the resulting coffee can of ashes. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319323 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Ballast Tubes Need Homes References: Message-ID: <7RRCe.28177$aA5.26004@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:41:23 GMT My suggestion would be to AES, http://www.tubesandmore.com Jeff David Stinson wrote: > I have some assorted ballast tubes. > To which tube dealer should I give them, > so others may have access to them? -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319324 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: 1932 Philco NASH radio References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:43:45 GMT James Hilins wrote: > I don't want to do the repair, I'm just a sucker for someone with a sob > story. There's a place listed near by that should be able to do it. Play It Again Restorations Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319325 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike" Subject: AM transmitter Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:26:41 GMT Anyone have any instructions pages, or diagrams on how to make my own oscillator coil, such as whats in an AA5? Im trying to build a decent AM transmitter, and Syl's design didnt work for me, and i ended up loosing the coil when I parted it. Anyway, i found a knight kit broadcaster schematic, that Im going to attempt to build, and it needs an osc coil, among a bunch of other ones that do. Anyone have a site, or a diagram on how to wind my own osc coil? thanks. I dont have any junker AA5 radios. Article: 319326 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter Grabarczyk Subject: Re: Watzit? References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> <1121495337.893887.191730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8onhd1hf9j63flu276j1lit0atm27lomfr@4ax.com> <3CMCe.145$7H5.92@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:24:55 GMT Syl wrote: > "Carter Grabarczyk" a opiné: > > >>P.S. >> >>The following is pure speculation, but we may be comparing apples and >>oranges. >> >>The phono pickup as used in your test, is made to be mechanically moved >>and set on records for thousands of cycles and thus may be mechanically >>"beefier" (bigger crystal element). > > > Hi Carter, > > The size of the crystal bears no reation to the frequency response. Syl, Pardon me if my frustration level is a little high......but I agree with your statement above: the size of the crystal probably has nothing to do with the audio frequency response. However, I was *not* talking about frequency response. I was referring to the number of *mechanical* cycles; i.e., the number of times it was physically picked up and set down on the record platter (or turntable if people were clumsy). I was trying to relate it to your analogy of mechanically larger phono crystals relating to 100 volt capacitors and smaller, more delicate headphone crystals being analogous to 10 volt capacitors. (Again, please don't hold me to exact values--these are just examples). To try and state it more clearly, possibly the phono crystal is more beefy (and hence can take more DC) because of the mechanical abuse it was designed to suffer--kids using the phonograph, drunks at parties dropping the needle on the record (or turntable), going through thousands of mechanical cycles of being picked up/set down (not cycles as in frequency response), etc, etc. Much more abuse than the headphones were ever intended to endure. Totally opposite design criteria--headphones to be as light as they could. Because the phono crystal is mechanically larger, you probably were able to get away with putting on the DC that you did. Let me try and wrap up my point... Get into Mr. Peabody's Wayback Machine. Set the dial for 1957. I am a 12 year old kid short wave listener ready to try out my one tube home brew regenerative receiver I just built. My dad, a ham, sees me walking towards my room with his Brush crystal headphones and asks me what's going on. Tell him I want to use them to see if my regen set works. He says can't--no DC allowed. He shows me the Brush instructions. They say "No DC" allowed. I am an electrical engineer and the engineer's mantra is "When all else fails, read the instructions". Brush said no DC, so I said no DC. Back in 1957, had I realized I would be debating this 48 years later, I would have saved those instructions. ;-) Bottom line: Feel free to apply DC to your Brush crystal headphones, but I will respectfully decline to try it with my pair. 73, Carter K8VT P.S. Interesting discussion, sorry its gone on so long, should have quoted the Brush instructions in my original post. Article: 319327 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Watzit? References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> <1121495337.893887.191730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8onhd1hf9j63flu276j1lit0atm27lomfr@4ax.com> <3CMCe.145$7H5.92@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:32:41 GMT Carter Grabarczyk wrote: > Bottom line: Feel free to apply DC to your Brush crystal headphones, but > I will respectfully decline to try it with my pair. Just out of curiosity, has anyone opened up a pair of Brush headphones to see what's inside of them? Or at a minimum, measured them with a (low power) ohm meter? Perhaps they have something clever like a small choke across them wound with #48 fairy hair wire that will immediately vaporize if you put DC across it. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319328 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Not mine, but interesting.... either a tuner or convertor? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 05:17:35 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1121667166.935726.55650@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "John Byrns" wrote in message news:jbyrns-1807051002400001@216-80-74-184.d.enteract.com... > In article <1121667166.935726.55650@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Phil > B" wrote: > > > An old TV "booster" amplifier. Somebody here collects these. > > > > The one I have has two bands VHF and UHF. The two bands are separated > > left and right of center off. This one looks like it somehow has > > continuous tuning from FM to UHF. Interesting. > > It looks to me like it doesn't cover the UHF band only VHF. The dial if > it is to be trusted runs from channel 2 through channel 13. > > I once had a console television (whose brand I do not right now recall) that had a radio style tuner which tuned from Ch.2-13 and everything in the middle (including the FM band and high public service bands). As the set was not an intercarrier type, the audio was run through separate IF's and could be tuned without a video carrier. Article: 319329 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> <1121495337.893887.191730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8onhd1hf9j63flu276j1lit0atm27lomfr@4ax.com> <3CMCe.145$7H5.92@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com> Subject: Re: Watzit? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:18:01 -0400 "Carter Grabarczyk" a opiné: >Pardon me if my frustration level is a little high......but I No need for frustration here. >agree with your statement above: the size of the crystal probably has >nothing to do with the audio frequency response. However, I was *not* >talking about frequency response. I was referring to the number of >*mechanical* cycles; i.e., the number of times it was physically picked >up and set down on the record platter (or turntable if people were clumsy Sorry, I probably misread your previous statement about the "mechanically moved and set on records for thousands of cycles and thus may be mechanically "beefier" (bigger crystal element)." > Because the phono crystal is mechanically larger, you probably were able > to get away with putting on the DC that you did. That is pretty much what I just wrote in my last reply. But we do not know that for a fact. I'd like to get my hands on a pair of crystal headphones and look at the size of the crystal element. BTW, a crystal is almost weightless so the difference between a 1/4" crystal and a one inch square chunk must be few grams. > I am an electrical engineer and the engineer's mantra is "When all else > fails, read the instructions". Brush said no DC, so I said no DC. Back > in 1957, had I realized I would be debating this 48 years later, I would > have saved those instructions. ;-) An actual pair of working headphones would be more useful I think...;o) The size of the crystal and other possible parts (as Jeff noted) and also the coupling to the diaphragm would reveal more in my opinion. I restore crystal microphones which is somewhat the opposite of a headphone (yes you can feed audio to a crystal mike and it does a fine job as a small speaker or headphones). Or, a coupling transformer is found inside the headphones. Do you own a pair ? Can you tell me (no need to proceed though) if the headphones can be opened like the magnetic version ? If so, I might be tempted to acquire a pair just to look at the innards. I'm sorry I'm not an engineer, just someone who has a technical background and studied the workings of crystals and Piezo elements and restore those. I wish I was an engineer, I could just read the instructions and be done with it...;o) > P.S. Interesting discussion, sorry its gone on so long, should have > quoted the Brush instructions in my original post. Wouldn't change a bit the discussion as far as I'm concerned. The reasons behind Brush's warning would be more useful/interesting to me. Best regards, Syl Article: 319330 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42DC0F64.FF1AB24F@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Not mine, but interesting.... either a tuner or convertor? References: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:21:56 -0400 --------------129CCB8618175FA8F5589EC4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I just bought it for the display factor. Looks cool. Sal Brisindi Art's Antique Radios wrote: > I have one on my shelf only because it looks cool > > For $7 its worth it for the display factor > > "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message > news:Xns9696EBF43E8BCwaynesgang@217.22.228.19... > > On Sun 17 Jul 2005 10:48:15p, Brenda Ann wrote in > > rec.antiques.radio+phono: > > > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5789666618&ssPage > >> Name=STRK:MEWA:IT > >> > > > > Tuner. > > > > -- > > Wayne Boatwright *¿* > > ____________________________________________ > > > > Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day. > > Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974 > > > > > > --- > > avast! 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--------------129CCB8618175FA8F5589EC4-- Article: 319331 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <1121667166.935726.55650@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Not mine, but interesting.... either a tuner or convertor? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:40:30 -0500 Message-ID: <42dc13be$0$32194$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Sounds like a Dumont Inputuner.... "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:dbh2ne$e9f$1@news2.kornet.net... > > "John Byrns" wrote in message > news:jbyrns-1807051002400001@216-80-74-184.d.enteract.com... >> In article <1121667166.935726.55650@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, "Phil >> B" wrote: >> >> > An old TV "booster" amplifier. Somebody here collects these. >> > >> > The one I have has two bands VHF and UHF. The two bands are separated >> > left and right of center off. This one looks like it somehow has >> > continuous tuning from FM to UHF. Interesting. >> >> It looks to me like it doesn't cover the UHF band only VHF. The dial if >> it is to be trusted runs from channel 2 through channel 13. >> >> > > I once had a console television (whose brand I do not right now recall) > that > had a radio style tuner which tuned from Ch.2-13 and everything in the > middle (including the FM band and high public service bands). As the set > was > not an intercarrier type, the audio was run through separate IF's and > could > be tuned without a video carrier. > > Article: 319332 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <42DC0F64.FF1AB24F@optonline.net> Subject: Re: Not mine, but interesting.... either a tuner or convertor? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:48:29 -0400 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C58BB8.866E3520 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Sal Brisindi" wrote in message = news:42DC0F64.FF1AB24F@optonline.net... I just bought it for the display factor. Looks cool.=20 Sal Brisindi=20 Chatty Kathy's and Twiggy dolls?? ------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C58BB8.866E3520 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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I=20 just bought it for the display factor. Looks cool.=20

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 Chatty Kathy's and Twiggy=20 dolls??

------=_NextPart_000_002A_01C58BB8.866E3520-- Article: 319333 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42DC1BDD.214B630A@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Not mine, but interesting.... either a tuner or convertor? References: <42DC0F64.FF1AB24F@optonline.net> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:15:09 -0400 --------------8D5C84EB94B8EEE1FC26B377 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, I'm a Gemini, Actually, my wife got thrown off ebay a while back for selling some cosmetics the company forbid she sell on ebay. She started selling on my ebay id, I can't convince her to go back to her id as ebay will reinstate it, she likes my ebay id "numitron". I fell like less of a man with these dolls poisening my id.... ;-( Regards, Sal Brisindi http://www.tuberadios.com/madman.html http://www.numitron.com Uncle Peter wrote: > > > "Sal Brisindi" wrote in message > news:42DC0F64.FF1AB24F@optonline.net...I just bought it for > the display factor. Looks cool. > > Sal Brisindi > > Chatty Kathy's and Twiggy dolls?? > --------------8D5C84EB94B8EEE1FC26B377 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit  Hey, I'm a Gemini,
Actually, my wife got thrown off ebay a while back for selling some cosmetics the company forbid she sell on ebay. She started selling on my ebay id, I can't convince her to go back to her id as ebay will reinstate it, she likes my ebay id "numitron".  I fell like less of a man with these dolls poisening my id....  ;-(

Regards,
Sal Brisindi
http://www.tuberadios.com/madman.html
http://www.numitron.com

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"Sal Brisindi" <salb203@optonline.net> wrote in message news:42DC0F64.FF1AB24F@optonline.net...I just bought it for the display factor. Looks cool.

Sal Brisindi

 Chatty Kathy's and Twiggy dolls??

--------------8D5C84EB94B8EEE1FC26B377-- Article: 319334 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Pelham" References: <42D8FC57.31F9BC8C@BCPL.net> <42DBBEA8.84F272F7@BCPL.net> Subject: Re: 1930 Federal Census Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:28:24 -0400 George wrote > What a great web site this is! Thanks for sharing it with the newsgroup. You're welcome, George. Actually I was just passing on the favor. A year or three ago there was a post somewhere, on this group or another, that shared it with me. John Article: 319335 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Raymond Koonce Subject: Re: What happened to IN, OH, & PA? (was Re: 1930 Federal Census) References: <42D8FC57.31F9BC8C@BCPL.net> <1121570204.574543.133130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <6eidneX4YYVLukbfRVn-hw@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 17:13:05 -0500 Ed wrote: > The same was true for Eastern Texas. I can remember my mother saying that > they were a little better off than most folks because my grandfather owned > the general store. They had a battery operated set that they listened to > when they caught my grandad away or they listened to the one in the Dodge > car. > "radioguy57" wrote in message > news:1121570204.574543.133130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Hi Ed, Where in East Texas? I live in Tyler. Regards, Raymond Article: 319336 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:14:48 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Ballast Tubes Need Homes References: <7RRCe.28177$aA5.26004@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1121719077.875715.68480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <7802b$42dc29da$4232bda1$6814@COQUI.NET> lbrty4us@aol.com wrote: > There should be a fine for people who point to AES for everything. ;-) > No need. AES already charges one ($2.50) to anybody ordering from them. -Bill From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Tue Jul 19 10:50:25 EDT 2005 Article: 319337 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 2050 tube? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 15:26:21 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <11dob3fjbfss479@corp.supernews.com> References: <11djfsdc6c7en99@corp.supernews.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 18 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-08!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319337 "Carter Grabarczyk" wrote in message news:SvjCe.1123$4M6.800@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com... > David Axt wrote: >> Anybody know tech info for a 2050 tube? What is it? >> >> Thanks, >> David > Gas filled triode aka Thyratron...used for control applications. See any > tube manual from the 50s-60s-70s for characteristics. > > Carter K8VT My RCA RC-30 (1975) book does not list it. -DA Article: 319338 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: Not mine, but interesting.... either a tuner or convertor? References: <42DC0F64.FF1AB24F@optonline.net> <42DC1BDD.214B630A@optonline.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:29:09 GMT Sal Brisindi wrote: > .... I fell like less of a > man with these dolls poisening my id.... Don't feel bad, Sal; My wife just sold a hundred Romance novels under my ID. Owwwwch! Article: 319339 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sndtech@webtv.net (Chris) Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:39:18 -0400 Message-ID: <4647-42DC2F96-139@storefull-3271.bay.webtv.net> References: <1121145847.511742.291980@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Let me just say that with the price a lot of folks are getting for restored old Bakelite and Catlin sets I am surprised there are not more techs fixing up these sets. Rarity drives prices and we all know these sets are out there. They just need some TLC from someone with the know how. superchargedband.com Article: 319340 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sndtech@webtv.net (Chris) Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 18:41:43 -0400 Message-ID: <4647-42DC3027-140@storefull-3271.bay.webtv.net> References: It matters because interest in the hobby equals parts still being available. superchargedband.com From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Tue Jul 19 10:50:26 EDT 2005 Article: 319341 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 2050 tube? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 16:32:44 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <11doevva7no675@corp.supernews.com> References: <11djfsdc6c7en99@corp.supernews.com> <2mvCe.2511$Zx3.1886@trndny05> <11dm08f1chakb35@corp.supernews.com> <1RGCe.161335$x96.89424@attbi_s72> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 40 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!news2.wam.umd.edu!nntp.abs.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-10!sn-xit-01!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319341 "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:1RGCe.161335$x96.89424@attbi_s72... > In article <11dm08f1chakb35@corp.supernews.com>, daxtATpacifierDOTcom > says... >> >> >> >>Yes they are for juke boxes. A friend of my owns a 50's diner and needs >>some for his juke box controllers (at the table?). >> >>Anyhow since I am an electronics buff he told me to keep and eye peeled >>for >>them. >> >>I would like to have them for him but have no idea what they are even >>worth. >> >>-David >> >> >> > Well a quick look on FleaBay and I see under completed auctions one > auction for 5 new ones in a sleeve at 27 bucks... a couple of others > at 10 bucks for a pair.... ballpark 5 bux maybe on a good day.... > > email me and will see tomorrow how many are there..... maybe 6 or 8 I > think... cheaper than fleabay as I don't have to answer a weeks worth > of stupid questions ... > > real email address is k9uwa at arrl dot net > > John k9uwa > Thanks. I'll check my buddy and see how many he needs. -David Article: 319342 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Subject: Re: what are old theater amps being used for? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:33:04 -0400 "Jon" wrote in message news:V3DCe.50770$0i3.38121@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > > > Most old theatre sound systems only reproduced up to 5 or 6 kHz, so they > probably wouldn't sound the best in a home theatre setup. > > -- > Jon Scaptura > Endicott, NY > > See my antique radios here: > http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios > I've heard that too, but I think the film chain was the limiting factor? Pete Article: 319343 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:48:44 +0200 Message-ID: References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Mark Oppat wrote: > Gary, > > just a note on the turntables... > I have a Numark TT-1 here at home (and my buddy Dan uses one for his pro > record-to-CD process work) > and it also has 78 RPM on it. These turntables are great quality and > relatively cheap on eBay. The "real" rar+p DJ needs 78 RPM, adjustable ;-) Technics does not offer 78 RPM (if not modified) > for some reason the real club DJ's dont like them > like the Technics 1200's. You or any readers here might consider one if you > might play any 78's. I think there is a TT-2 also but not sure what > difference is. TT2: Xtended MickyMouse design*, maybe higher torque. SP-DIF output (too much money if you don't need that). Delivered with straight _and_ S-shape tone arms (AFAIR). *) similar the difference between TT100 (turntable) and TT200 (UFO). Both TT1 and TT2 have the display for "RPM". I'd like to switch different pots for each "standard" speed (78, 80 and so on) instead of adjusting only one pitch feeder accurately every time. Kind Regards, Georg (Reloop 4000 is good enough for shellac records) PS: @those who recommended Stanton: The straight tone arm is bad as old gramophone design. Perfect to scrap vinyl. And, for the hell, why do they not offer all their incompatible needles worldwide? Article: 319344 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:54:22 +0200 Message-ID: References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> <3ju7cdFrmjb2U1@individual.net> Larry wrote: > Radio Rambler wrote: > > > $ ls /mnt/hda5/mp3s/rock/70s/ > /home/robert/rock_playlist.lst. > > Ah, spoken like a true Linux fan....(c; > > Can't everyone remember cryptic unix command line syntax? Reminds me of > CP/M....or Fortran.....or (gulp) MS-DOS! Soundblaster Pro: VPLAY filname.voc > I fooled with Linux for a couple of years. Linux' big problem is NOONE > EVER FINISHES WHAT HE STARTED! They get to Beta 0.998g version like Windoze, never repaired one version to the end until the next was released. > and their > youthful short attention span wanders into the next gee whiz project. At > that point, noone ever fixes the bugs and you're stuck with 0.998g unless > some other hacker picks up the project. > > Try MP3 Catalog Pro. I can't find a bug in it. A prog for Mickro$oft Windoze? Without bug(s)? Hard to believe ;-) Kind Regards, Georg Article: 319345 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: what are old theater amps being used for? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 02:02:14 +0200 Message-ID: References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Uncle Peter wrote: > > "Jon" wrote: in message > > > > > > > Most old theatre sound systems only reproduced up to 5 or 6 kHz, so they > > probably wouldn't sound the best in a home theatre setup. > > I've heard that too, but I think the film chain was the limiting factor? Listening to the full possible sound pressure of _good_ cinema speakers (e.g. Voice of the ceatre as Low-Tec, Klangfilm Euronor as Hi-Tec) for a longer time results in 3 kHz Hi cut-off, earlier or later ;-) Kind Regards, Georg Article: 319346 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <42D8FC57.31F9BC8C@BCPL.net> <1121718909.950773.49940@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: What happened to IN, OH, & PA? (was Re: 1930 Federal Census) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 00:16:16 GMT Yes, that IS quite a jump, particularly during the period of the Great Depression. However as I understand it, the depression is partly credited with the high radio sales. During the 1920's record players were all the rage. However when the stock market crashed, people became much more conservative with their spending. Basic economics, with a record player you have to keep buying records to hear more songs. With a radio, you buy the box once and listen all day long for free. So record sales plummeted, while radios took off. Many radios were basic models, but of course, for the rich who lived in palaces at the time, there were also radios to match -- Scott, McMurdo, and others. I've always heard that beer does well during bad economic times. But you couldn't get it -- so people spent money on radios instead. "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1121718909.950773.49940@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > http://www.census.gov/statab/hist/HS-42.pdf > > I suspect that you may extrapolate accordingly, but on a curve where > the penetration would be less in already high-penetration states, and > more in less-so states. But from 39% overall in 1930 to 73% overall in > 1940 is no small increase. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 319347 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? From: Larry References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> <3ju7cdFrmjb2U1@individual.net> <3jvsauFrpmphU1@individual.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:34:15 -0400 Radio Rambler wrote in news:3jvsauFrpmphU1@individual.net: > at one time. that may have been true, however, there has been a lot of > major improvements within the last couple of years & there have been > several thousands of applications written since then. there are many > more maintainers & code writers participating as well. > Ah, yes....but, PINE aside, programs throughout the world are written for Windows, not Linux. Linux is a great O/S. It's better'n Windows by a mile....But, alas, it's NOT what 99% of the software is written to run under...Windows. -- Larry Article: 319348 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? From: Larry References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:36:54 -0400 "Gary Tayman" wrote in news:GQMCe.604$6f.479@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net: > As for the Technics 1200's, they are the top of the line, > used by radio stations for many years. There are other pro units out > there, but not the same calibre as the Technics. You do know Technics is out-of-business, right? Matsushita Electric closed the whole company down a couple of years ago. They made the best electronic organs in the business, virtually trouble-free. Now, alas, there are no parts. Panasonic has amnesia when I call them for Technics parts. -- Larry Article: 319349 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? From: Larry References: <56-42DBA9F7-637@storefull-3272.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:39:09 -0400 Sndtech@webtv.net (Chris) wrote in news:56-42DBA9F7-637@storefull- 3272.bay.webtv.net: > were replaced with Jbls Before you die, go to JBL's plant and listen to the 24-hour test at FULL RATED RMS POWER on a new JBL speaker. Just awesome what they are put through...(c; -- Larry Article: 319350 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: what are old theater amps being used for? From: Larry References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:45:27 -0400 " Uncle Peter" wrote in news:Q_WCe.156030$go.7736@fed1read05: > I've heard that too, but I think the film chain was the limiting factor? > No, the optical sound track used to pop and click like mad every time it encountered dirt on the film. It's just a DC light bulb and a photocell, you know. If the optical track was "open" to let more light on the photocell at this instance, and a spot of dirt went by putting out the little light beam through it...POP! The other limiting factor was how fast the old gas tube photocells and the original Cd Sulfide cells could react to changes in light. They both had an awful hysteresis (lag) and 5 Khz was probably taxing that limit. Limiting the audio reduced the inherent hissing noise of this simple analog sound system. The public was listening to 5Khz records, limited by the recording industry so they could be played directly on AM radio transmitters to promo them, so the public didn't see any difference. 5Khz is about 90% of all the audio of a huge orchestra, anyway...easily 100% of two cowboys talking on horseback on a sound stage. -- Larry Article: 319351 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "G. Wilson" Subject: calibrating Hickok tube tester Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 19:05:07 -0600 Message-ID: Hello I am having difficulty trying to follow instructions by Padgett on how to calibrate a Hickok tube tester . (available on Google ) Can someone guide me on some of the steps , or alternately which ARC magazine Daniel Schoo has his article about this calibration thanks Gordon From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Tue Jul 19 10:50:28 EDT 2005 Article: 319352 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: Subject: Re: 1932 Philco NASH radio Lines: 10 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-ID: <5oYCe.14184$9S1.12220@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:08:17 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.6.126 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1121735297 67.53.6.126 (Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:08:17 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 20:08:17 CDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!news2.wam.umd.edu!nntp.abs.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-east.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319352 Gary doesn't want it as it's not a post war radio. I'm working on a piece of S#$6%^ right now which has me wanting to give up the hobby. Play it again restorations.... doesn't want it either (trust me I know the guy) Jim Article: 319353 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1121731111.452065.213080@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Royal 1000-1 battery box - why so hot? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:31:28 -0400 "Jeff, WB8NHV" wrote in message news:1121731111.452065.213080@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I have a Zenith TransOceanic portable radio, Royal 1000-1, which works > very well on batteries and AC, but the batteries get extremely warm > when installed in the battery compartment. As I said, the radio seems > to work fine (good sound, no distortion or other problems that I can > see at this point), so I don't think anything is shorted. What is the > normal current draw of the T/O Royal 1000-1 at full volume? The > wall-wart AC adapter transformer also runs rather warm after being in > use a half hour or more. My concern regarding the battery box is that > the batteries may become so hot as to melt the plastic or even start a > fire inside the compartment, which then might spread to the rest of the > radio and severely damage the chassis. > > Thanks much. > > Jeff, WB8NHV (mailto: jeffhs@ameritech.net) > Fairport Harbor, Ohio USA > The radio draws EXTREMELY little current. If the batteries are getting that warm, I'm wondering if the wall wart is plugged into radio when you're running on batteries? Could the battery eliminator be trying to "charge" the batteries--wiring error a possibility????? Pete Article: 319354 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Richard" References: Subject: Re: calibrating Hickok tube tester Message-ID: <4VYCe.30845$Tx1.26298@trnddc03> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:43:28 GMT The following link may be helpful. http://www.0wned.org/%7Ehstraub/cal600.htm Article: 319355 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim Barnard" Subject: Re: Zenith Royal 1000-1 battery box - why so hot? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:11:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1121731111.452065.213080@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Also, check for a short at the connector for the external power supply shorting out batteries. Had this problem once before. Jim " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:RJYCe.156061$go.149278@fed1read05... > > "Jeff, WB8NHV" wrote in message > news:1121731111.452065.213080@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> I have a Zenith TransOceanic portable radio, Royal 1000-1, which works >> very well on batteries and AC, but the batteries get extremely warm >> when installed in the battery compartment. As I said, the radio seems >> to work fine (good sound, no distortion or other problems that I can >> see at this point), so I don't think anything is shorted. What is the >> normal current draw of the T/O Royal 1000-1 at full volume? The >> wall-wart AC adapter transformer also runs rather warm after being in >> use a half hour or more. My concern regarding the battery box is that >> the batteries may become so hot as to melt the plastic or even start a >> fire inside the compartment, which then might spread to the rest of the >> radio and severely damage the chassis. >> >> Thanks much. >> >> Jeff, WB8NHV (mailto: jeffhs@ameritech.net) >> Fairport Harbor, Ohio USA >> > > The radio draws EXTREMELY little current. > > If the batteries are getting that warm, I'm wondering if the wall wart is > plugged into radio when you're running on batteries? Could the > battery eliminator be trying to "charge" the batteries--wiring error > a possibility????? > > Pete > > Article: 319356 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Anyone familiar with Eddystone? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:18:31 -0400 "Haggis telus.net>" wrote in message news:moGCe.136959$tt5.136746@edtnps90... > On my usual Sunday morning flea market crawl, I picked up an Eddystone Model > 850/4 communications receiver today. > Cheers! Haggis. Are you in the States?? That is a gorgeous receiver. I'd think you could easily recoup whatever you paid for it, and buy a comm receiver with BCB coverage, and have some change to boot! Don't hack it up or modify it is my opinion. Pete Article: 319357 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Push pull output question From: Larry References: <1121734432.266693.149750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:41:28 -0400 pgonshor@aol.com wrote in news:1121734432.266693.149750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > I've got a Ward's set with push-pull 6F6 outputs, using a transformer > driver in lieu of a phase splitter. The output is deficient. When I > remove one of the output tubes, the sound gets louder and clear. I've > measured the driver transformer and all seems well with the > resistances. The tubes check good and substitution of tubes gives the > same result. The output transformer also checks OK. What would cause > this problem? Thanks for any input. > Dave > What's the DC voltages on the grids and common cathode? Pulling one tube out halves the current through the cathode resistor lowering the bias. If the resistor is high, it may be driving us too far into class C bias. Is there a good grid signal on BOTH grids that is approximately the same AC voltage? -- Larry Article: 319358 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: Some one please Test ppinyot.com TO page. References: Message-ID: <7PZCe.1981252$6l.1622699@pd7tw2no> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 02:45:23 GMT Hi Randy, Konqueror is a browser used in the KDE desktop for linux, Avant is a freeware windows browser, Camino is a mozilla based browser for Mac, and iCab is also for the Mac, but don't know too much about that one yet. Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com > And some of those browsers - I > have never seen or ever heard of - Konqueror? Avant Browser? Camino? > iCab J? Article: 319359 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42DC6C5F.50B8AF8A@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Not mine, but interesting.... either a tuner or convertor? References: <42DC0F64.FF1AB24F@optonline.net> <42DC1BDD.214B630A@optonline.net> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 02:59:00 GMT David Stinson wrote: > > Sal Brisindi wrote: > > > .... I feel like less of a > > man with these dolls poisoning my id.... > > Don't feel bad, Sal; > My wife just sold a hundred Romance novels under my ID. > Owwwwch! On the bright side, they are gone! -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 319360 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42DC6DF9.54EE5AE0@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Some one please Test ppinyot.com TO page. References: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 03:05:50 GMT gb wrote: > > "Paul P" wrote in > message news:WdwCe.435617$cg1.41546@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > >I received feedback about my site not properly displaying the Transoceanic > >page. The feedback was, " Hello i can not get anyware on your site,It > >allmost come up but pops off to my desktop? realy wanted to check the > >Zenith TO info, Thank You..... " > > > > Of course is seems fine on my computer. > > > > Q - Would some one please try the TO page by way of the main page at > > www.ppinyot.com and report back? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Paul. > Paul you inquiry is likely from WILLIAM E PHELAN, N2KPE in BEDFORD HILLS NY > He can't seem to figure out how to get to this newsgroup -- but has a Zenith > To -- and desires restoration information ... he has an AOL.COM e-mail > address. > > Greg > w9gb AOL no longer provides direct access to newsgroups since they shut down their news server farm. He can use the link below to read and post through Google, but he has to sign up first. -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 319361 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Some one please Test ppinyot.com TO page. References: <7PZCe.1981252$6l.1622699@pd7tw2no> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 22:34:45 -0500 Shawn K wrote: > Hi Randy, Konqueror is a browser used in the KDE desktop for linux, > Avant is a freeware windows browser, Camino is a mozilla based browser > for Mac, and iCab is also for the Mac, but don't know too much about > that one yet. Thanks, I kinda figured they were some new stuff, as well as something for Linux, etc. They are such a small part of what's used, though - it's hard to justify trying to include them in coding and testing. In case anyone is interested - I've posted the browser "visit" report from the site I mentioned earlier. http://www.mississippi.net/~comcents/browser.jpg As can be seen - while IE may be challenged of late - it's still far and away the top - followed by a handful of also-ran (mostly Mac based). best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319362 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42DC7735.4AD3DA72@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Not mine, but interesting.... either a tuner or convertor? References: <42DC0F64.FF1AB24F@optonline.net> <42DC1BDD.214B630A@optonline.net> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 23:44:53 -0400 David, I'm surprised my wife didn't bid on them.. ;-). Sal David Stinson wrote: > Sal Brisindi wrote: > > > .... I fell like less of a > > man with these dolls poisening my id.... > > Don't feel bad, Sal; > My wife just sold a hundred Romance novels under my ID. > Owwwwch! Article: 319363 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 1932 Philco NASH radio From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <5oYCe.14184$9S1.12220@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 04:07:12 GMT In article <5oYCe.14184$9S1.12220@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>, oldradio@wi.rr.com says... > > >Gary doesn't want it as it's not a post war radio. > >I'm working on a piece of S#$6%^ right now which has me wanting to give up >the hobby. >Play it again restorations.... doesn't want it either (trust me I know the >guy) > >Jim > > OK mail the POS to me..... I'll fix it as long as the cosmetics on it are good..... don't do dial damage etc... John k9uwa Article: 319364 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Ballast Tubes Need Homes From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1121719077.875715.68480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 04:12:30 GMT In article <1121719077.875715.68480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, lbrty4us@aol.com says... > > >There should be a fine for people who point to AES for everything. ;-) > AGREED.......... DITTO ......... for Toob Dealers.... two much better choices.... ESRC Tubes in Orlando... Stan Winston esrc1@aol.com 6424 pinecastle blvd. suite D, orlando, fl 32809 Phone: 407- 826- 5808 http://home.att.net/~esrc/esrcmain.html Jim Cross Tubes jim@vacuumtubesinc.com 1080 Sligh Blvd, Orlando, FL 32806 Phone: 407-481-9994 John k9uwa Article: 319365 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Harsh Tone on Zenith From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1121733160.795090.135620@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121733966.287305.17090@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 04:15:15 GMT In article <1121733966.287305.17090@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, eb062559@aol.com says... > > >you didn't say if the set had been re-capped or not. if not, it >wouldn't be a bad idea. at least the filters. also the paper caps on >the output tube are a must. (at a minimum) > David recapped it some time ago.... try swapping tubes from one set to the other?.. could be something around the detector tube that isn't right also... John k9uwa Article: 319366 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: Some one please Test ppinyot.com TO page. Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 04:19:52 GMT Thanks to everyone who replied. As usual I learned more than I had hoped for (a good thing!). I sent a couple of your replies to the fellow having trouble. Perhaps they will help him. I am neither a Browser or Front Page 2000 expert. I find FP2000 much more rewarding for creating sites than plugging through the extensive HTML code or a better page generator. I just have fun with the stuff and try to help a few people in between. Thanks again all, Paul. "Paul P" wrote in message news:WdwCe.435617$cg1.41546@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >I received feedback about my site not properly displaying the Transoceanic >page. The feedback was, " Hello i can not get anyware on your site,It >allmost come up but pops off to my desktop? realy wanted to check the >Zenith TO info, Thank You..... " > > Of course is seems fine on my computer. > > Q - Would some one please try the TO page by way of the main page at > www.ppinyot.com and report back? > > Thanks, > > Paul. > Article: 319367 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Ping Dave Stinson Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:35:09 -0700 Message-ID: <24152-42DC82FD-432@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> Dave, i can't find the thread now, but IIRC, it was you who posted a ditty called "She flushed me down the bathroom of her heart" or something like that. Just wonderin' if you could post it again. What tune is it sung to? Seems like it could be sung to "On the Wings of a Great Speckled Bird". Thx Bill(oc) Article: 319368 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Zenith Royal 1000-1 battery box - why so hot? Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 21:42:28 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1121731111.452065.213080@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Jeff, WB8NHV wrote: > I have a Zenith TransOceanic portable radio, Royal 1000-1, which works > very well on batteries and AC, but the batteries get extremely warm > when installed in the battery compartment. As I said, the radio seems > to work fine (good sound, no distortion or other problems that I can > see at this point), so I don't think anything is shorted. What is the > normal current draw of the T/O Royal 1000-1 at full volume? The > wall-wart AC adapter transformer also runs rather warm after being in > use a half hour or more. My concern regarding the battery box is that > the batteries may become so hot as to melt the plastic or even start a > fire inside the compartment, which then might spread to the rest of the > radio and severely damage the chassis. Something IS shorted...you can count on that. The wall wart that I have for my 1000 is one of the very first of its kind, in a metal enclosure as opposed to the plastic ones that came later. That unit is rated at an absurdly low 60ma @ 12V and it barely gets warm under normal operation. Your radio was designed to operate satisfactorily for many hours on a set of ordinary carbon-zinc flashlight batteries, which at the time were the only type available everywhere. A current draw stiff enough to warm up a set of alkalines would kill a set of carbon-zinc cells in a matter of minutes, so yeah, you've got a problem. Some other folks have suggested checking the wall wart and its connections. That's a good place to start. Let the batteries cool down completely and unplug the wall wart from the set. Turn the radio back on and start playing it at a volume just slightly above reasonable for 15 or 20 minutes. Do the batteries still get warm? If not, then it's the AC adaptor and its associated wiring in the radio that's causing problems. If the batteries continue to get hot, then your problem is likely a leaky cap or leaky transistor. Time to break out the ammeter and remove the chassis from the radio's case. A schematic from http://www.transoceanic.nostalgiaair.org/1000/ZEN_2.zip is also good to have. What you want to do is measure the current draw from the powered up radio. Pull out a transistor and see if the current being drawn declines dramatically. If it does not, put it back in and go on to the next one, and then the next, until the current draw drops or you run out of transistors to remove/insert. If pulling a transistor lowers the current drain substantially, then it is likely that that transistor is bad, regardless of how well it may otherwise perform. If the transistor pulling does not lower the current drain, then you will need to examine the schematic and look for the location of electrolytic caps in the circuits. Some caps used in the earliest production runs of this radio were particularly nasty-as bad as any you'll find in any tube radio. You will have to clip one end of each one one at a time until your current drain drops. This problem should not be too difficult to find.....The current drain has to be several orders of magnitude greater than normal in order to exhibit the symptoms you describe. -Scott Article: 319369 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Some one please Test ppinyot.com TO page. Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 04:57:08 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <7PZCe.1981252$6l.1622699@pd7tw2no> In Randy or Sherry Guttery writes: >http://www.mississippi.net/~comcents/browser.jpg >As can be seen - while IE may be challenged of late - it's still far and >away the top - followed by a handful of also-ran (mostly Mac based). It's also entirely possible for a browser to lie. I find this useful for sites run by chuckleheads who insist on a particular browser for no good reason. Although I doubt this behavior would account for many, if any, hits on your site. But about coding in general (I'm not aiming this at Randy) -- you shouldn't code for a browser, you should code to standards. Standards, in this case, does not mean what Micro$oft's marketing department made you pay for this year. Hell, they can't even interoperate between their own OS products! Go with code that'll pass one of the w3c's validators, such as: http://validator.w3.org/ and you'll stand a chance of your pages working for more than six months. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 319370 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Anyone familiar with Eddystone? From: "Haggis" telus.net> References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 05:34:09 GMT On 18-Jul-2005, " Uncle Peter" wrote: > Are you in the States?? > > That is a gorgeous receiver. I'd think you could easily recoup whatever > you > paid for it, and buy a comm receiver with BCB coverage, and have some > change to boot! Don't hack it up or modify it is my opinion. > > Pete Hi Pete (and all the others who replied). FWIW, I'm in the frozen north (Canada to be precise). Sitting at a balmy, sunny 75 deg. F today, which is a pleasant change from the torrential rain and flooding we had a couple weeks back. Yes, I should have put it on the 'bay, judging from all the offers I've had to purchase it. :-). I'm not feeling that mercenary today, and it is now spoken for, so no worries about parting it out. I didn't make a profit on it (hey! anyone who was willing to pay the very high shipping plus the little I asked for it, deserves it). I'm just pleased to see it going to someone who will appreciate it. Seriously, it has to be one of the most beautifully built comm. radios I've ever seen, and that includes the SX - 96 Hallicrafters and the RCA AR - 88 I almost "gave away" a while back. I have lots of pictures of the "innards" of the Eddystone - if anyone would like to see them, let me know. A suggestion I got about using a cheap table radio as a converter (although it had merit) just wouldn't fly around my house - Mrs. G. would have to ask "but why don't you just listen to the little radio"? Back to my crystal sets. :-). Cheers! Haggis. Article: 319371 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 05:39:28 GMT Georg Richter wrote: > The "real" rar+p DJ needs 78 RPM, adjustable ;-) > Technics does not offer 78 RPM (if not modified) True. I have a Technics SL-2000 The modification was simple. Change the resistance in the speed feedback loop. Change the cartridge to a Shure M78. Now I can listen to my pile-o-78s. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319372 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Some one please Test ppinyot.com TO page. References: <7PZCe.1981252$6l.1622699@pd7tw2no> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:03:25 -0500 Tim Mullen wrote: > But about coding in general (I'm not aiming this at Randy) -- > you shouldn't code for a browser, you should code to standards. > Standards, in this case, does not mean what Micro$oft's marketing > department made you pay for this year. Hell, they can't even > interoperate between their own OS products! That was exactly my point - sorta... While I don't do "browser specific" coding (i.e. one "branch" of code for IE; another "branch" of code for NS, etc.); going to the other "extreme" of coding to strict standards such as: > http://validator.w3.org/ will result is a page that is artificially restricted - and I don't do that, either. There are certain "vendor specific" extensions that they (w3.org) balk at - that are fine with the majority of browsers ( for one) - and pass less "strict" validators. Adobe's GoLive is *very* good at generating code that - while not "strict" html, etc. - is rendered just fine by the majority of browsers. Even then, I do some things in hand coding (such as conditional execution of HTML - controlled by PHP) that even GoLive doesn't understand - and throws w3's validator into a tizzy, yet when executed by a PHP server - the code actually presented to the browser is standard (even by fairly strict standards) HTML. Here's another example of how to make a "strict" validator go nuts:
This drives strict validators nuts - because the anchor start tag is actually generated for the browser by Javascript - so is hidden from HTML "evalutation" - which leaves the anchor close () an "orphan". But every "major" browser that supports any reasonably recent version of JavaScript handles it fine. Then there are the pages that has two valid sets of HTML- strict validators just give up. Since the page is "served" by PHP code - the browser only "see" valid HTML code (this is a common in handling forms - i.e. have the form call itself; with PHP code to handle the form's data; and determine which "set" of HTML code is sent to the browser (first HTML presents the form; second set of HTML is an "acknowledgement" page - all handled and validated via PHP code). > and you'll stand a chance of your pages working for more than > six months. Most of my code has run years without too much trouble. In fact the only thing I remember breaking was a workaround for Mac NS 6.something that mac NS 6.something rendered wrong (Windows 6.x worked fine, but the customer was running a Mac)- and I did break even my own rules that one time - and have some Mac NS 6.something code. When NS fixed the problem (basically tossed 6.everything and replaced it with 7.0) the "workaround" screwed up the newer version - so I pulled the code and forgot about the fact that 6.something didn't work right - because Mac 6.x sucked so bad, no one was using it - esp. after 7.0 hit the street. My (and Tim's) point is that there are non-conforming browsers "out there" - but the problem(s) is(are) their's, not properly done source; and programmer shouldn't chase their tail trying to make "code that fits all"- at least IMHO. Then again - when managing a commercial site - that's what those statistics are for - if something does break (i.e. effects an unacceptably large number of people) - *I'm* the first (or close enough to it) to know about it... best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319373 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Message-ID: <4L0De.100890$qm.38083@bignews5.bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 01:07:03 -0500 Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > True. I have a Technics SL-2000 Jeff - does the 2000 have the dreaded "cue" problem the 1200 and it's siblings have? I have a 1300 - and yup- cueing don't work. I like the "rest" of the unit - built really well - but handling the cart that much is a pain (plus you better have auto-return disabled - which once in a while gets "accidentally" turned back on..!!!). So I've kinda been watching for something to replace the 1300... best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319374 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: AM transmitter Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 02:47:03 -0600 Message-ID: References: http://home.att.net/~weatheradio/wprdj.htm you might find this interesting... you can buy the toy for 10-20 bucks and mod it as you see fit... randy "Mike" wrote in message news:BvSCe.17503$B52.6792@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com... > Anyone have any instructions pages, or diagrams on how to make my own > oscillator coil, such as whats in an AA5? > > Im trying to build a decent AM transmitter, and Syl's design didnt work > for > me, and i ended up loosing the coil when I parted it. > > Anyway, i found a knight kit broadcaster schematic, that Im going to > attempt > to build, and it needs an osc coil, among a bunch of other ones that do. > > Anyone have a site, or a diagram on how to wind my own osc coil? > > thanks. I dont have any junker AA5 radios. > > Article: 319375 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:26:39 +0200 Larry wrote: > You do know Technics is out-of-business, right? Matsushita Electric closed > the whole company down a couple of years ago. They made the best > electronic organs in the business, virtually trouble-free. Now, alas, > there are no parts. Panasonic has amnesia when I call them for Technics > parts. Sounds strange to me, I always considered Technics just another brand name. Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 319376 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter Grabarczyk Subject: Re: 2050 tube? References: <11djfsdc6c7en99@corp.supernews.com> <11dob3fjbfss479@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:10:54 GMT David Axt wrote: > "Carter Grabarczyk" wrote in message > news:SvjCe.1123$4M6.800@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com... > >>David Axt wrote: >> >>>Anybody know tech info for a 2050 tube? What is it? >>> >>>Thanks, >>>David >> >>Gas filled triode aka Thyratron...used for control applications. See any >>tube manual from the 50s-60s-70s for characteristics. >> >>Carter K8VT > > > My RCA RC-30 (1975) book does not list it. > > -DA > > Well, at the risk of getting in trouble again... First, thanks to Bob, N2IXK for his correction. My brain knew "tetrode" but my fingers typed "triode". It is indeed a tetrode. I did say *any* tube manual. However, I think the RC series of manuals are *receiving* tube manuals and the 2050 is probably not considered a "receiving" tube. No doubt someone here can tell you what specific series of manuals would have this tube. Also, I believe someone here already posted the characteristics. Furthermore, a Google or Yahoo search for "2050 thyratron" will show the pin out. Carter K8VT