Article: 319378 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: Ping Dave Stinson References: <24152-42DC82FD-432@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 14:57:27 GMT Bill Sheppard wrote: > Dave, i can't find the thread now, but IIRC, it was you who posted a > ditty called "She flushed me down the bathroom of her heart" or > something like that. Just wonderin' if you could post it again. WARNING: The following post is "R" rated. If you're squeamish or Baptist, please do not scroll down. If you do, don't complain ;-). I mean it.... OK, you asked for it.... Howdy, Bill. Among my many sick personality disorders is a "thing" for making-up crude, bawdy lyrics to popular song tunes. Hey- we all have our bad habits, right? I rarely write them down and have forget more than I remember. The title: "I've Been Flushed From the Bathroom of Your Heart" was part of the punch-line from a joke on country music. I made-up the chorus on the spot: "I've been flushed from the bathroom of your heart. You said your love was real, but it was just a faaaaaaaaaaa-art... Now that swirlin' water says that we must part, 'cuz I been flushed from the bathroom of your heart." (wahhhh--deee--wahhhh-wahhhh, TWANG!) Never did write any verses for that one- just the chorus. Guess I could, without too much trouble. I can "hear" the music to it in my head; sounds a lot like every country tune from the 50's and 60's that ended with the steel guitar wah-wah-twanging. "Great Speckled Bird" works, if you add the "twanger." I've had a couple of road-house musicians ask me about using the ones I've finish, but I never pursued it. I can carry a tune, but don't know if I could display my mental illness in front of a live audience. ;-) To give some idea of just how warped my little hobby gets: This is the first verse from a spoof on Randy Travis's "Diggin' Up Bones:" "I looked into my dresser drawer and found an old sock there. I put them panties on my head- the ones you used to wear. If you were only here then, darlin', we could get it on, but tonight I'm sittin' alone, yankin' my bone..." and the Charlie Pride classic: "Koe-Li-Ju was a wooden indian standin' by the door. He had some "wood" for the indian maid over in the antique store... Koe-Li-JUUUUUUUUUUUH! Wishin' he could give that girl a spank, and wishin' she would give his cr*nk a yank, yank ah-yank! Oh, it gets worse... There... You have my confession. I'd go to church and beg forgiveness, but then, God help me, I start making them up to go with the hymns, especially the new, contrived "hymns" you hear these days. My wife slaps me when she hears me, singin' low: "Holy, Holy, Holy, Cheese and Macaroni, Chips and Guacamole..." *>SMACK!<* Hurts, too... Mentally yours, Dave S. Article: 319379 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <24152-42DC82FD-432@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Ping Dave Stinson Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:17:50 GMT Forget country, you should do rap. "David Stinson" wrote in message news:rx8De.420$Uk3.341@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Bill Sheppard wrote: > >> Dave, i can't find the thread now, but IIRC, it was you who posted a >> ditty called "She flushed me down the bathroom of her heart" or >> something like that. Just wonderin' if you could post it again. > > > > WARNING: > The following post is "R" rated. > If you're squeamish or Baptist, please do not scroll down. > If you do, don't complain ;-). > > > > > I mean it.... > > > > > OK, you asked for it.... > > > Howdy, Bill. > Among my many sick personality disorders is a "thing" > for making-up crude, bawdy lyrics to popular song tunes. > Hey- we all have our bad habits, right? > I rarely write them down and have forget more than I remember. > The title: "I've Been Flushed From the Bathroom of Your Heart" > was part of the punch-line from a joke on country music. > I made-up the chorus on the spot: > > "I've been flushed from the bathroom of your heart. > You said your love was real, > but it was just a faaaaaaaaaaa-art... > Now that swirlin' water says that we must part, > 'cuz I been flushed from the bathroom of your heart." > (wahhhh--deee--wahhhh-wahhhh, TWANG!) > > Never did write any verses for that one- just the chorus. > Guess I could, without too much trouble. > I can "hear" the music to it in my head; > sounds a lot like every country tune from the 50's and 60's > that ended with the steel guitar wah-wah-twanging. > "Great Speckled Bird" works, if you add the "twanger." > > I've had a couple of road-house musicians > ask me about using the ones I've finish, but I never pursued it. > I can carry a tune, but don't know if I could display my > mental illness in front of a live audience. ;-) > To give some idea of just how warped my little hobby gets: > This is the first verse from a spoof > on Randy Travis's "Diggin' Up Bones:" > > "I looked into my dresser drawer and found an old sock there. > I put them panties on my head- the ones you used to wear. > If you were only here then, darlin', we could get it on, > but tonight I'm sittin' alone, yankin' my bone..." > > and the Charlie Pride classic: > > "Koe-Li-Ju was a wooden indian > standin' by the door. > He had some "wood" for the indian maid > over in the antique store... > Koe-Li-JUUUUUUUUUUUH! > Wishin' he could give that girl a spank, > and wishin' she would give his cr*nk a yank, yank ah-yank! > > Oh, it gets worse... > > There... You have my confession. > I'd go to church and beg forgiveness, > but then, God help me, > I start making them up to go with the hymns, > especially the new, contrived "hymns" > you hear these days. > My wife slaps me when she hears me, singin' low: > "Holy, Holy, Holy, > Cheese and Macaroni, > Chips and Guacamole..." *>SMACK!<* > > Hurts, too... > > Mentally yours, > Dave S. > > > Article: 319380 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Subject: Re: what are old theater amps being used for? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:29:52 GMT Records limited to 5kHz? Were there ever records made that delibrately limited this? True, the FCC specs for a AM channel limits the transmission to 5kHz, and most radio receivers do much the same, but a lot of radio stations cheated on this and let it go a bit further. "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns9697D0DDC4D09noone@63.223.7.253... >" Uncle Peter" wrote in > news:Q_WCe.156030$go.7736@fed1read05: > >> I've heard that too, but I think the film chain was the limiting factor? >> > > No, the optical sound track used to pop and click like mad every time it > encountered dirt on the film. It's just a DC light bulb and a photocell, > you know. If the optical track was "open" to let more light on the > photocell at this instance, and a spot of dirt went by putting out the > little light beam through it...POP! > > The other limiting factor was how fast the old gas tube photocells and the > original Cd Sulfide cells could react to changes in light. They both had > an awful hysteresis (lag) and 5 Khz was probably taxing that limit. > > Limiting the audio reduced the inherent hissing noise of this simple > analog > sound system. The public was listening to 5Khz records, limited by the > recording industry so they could be played directly on AM radio > transmitters to promo them, so the public didn't see any difference. 5Khz > is about 90% of all the audio of a huge orchestra, anyway...easily 100% of > two cowboys talking on horseback on a sound stage. > > > > -- > Larry Article: 319381 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? From: Larry References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:34:44 -0400 If you browse to www.technics.com you get a webpage called "Technics Canada", but look at the bottom of the page: Technics Music Canada is a division of Great West Music (1987) Ltd. Copyright © 1995 - 2003 Great West Music (1987) Ltd. All Rights Reserved. Notice how "Matsushita Electric" or "Panasonic" isn't in this text? Whois to technics.com you get: Registrant: Technics - Great West Music Ltd. 3331 Jacombs Rd. Richmond, BC V6V 1Z6 CA Domain Name: TECHNICS.COM Administrative Contact: MacMullin, Garnett garnett@TRITONE.NET Tritone Corporation Suite 204 634 Queen Street Fredericton NB E3B 1C2 CA 506-451-6428 fax: 506-451-6243 Technical Contact: MacMullin, Garnett garnett@TRITONE.NET Tritone Corporation Suite 204 634 Queen Street Fredericton, NB E3B 1C2 CA 506-451-6428 fax: 506-451-6243 Record expires on 25-Oct-2005. Record created on 26-Oct-1995. Database last updated on 19-Jul-2005 11:32:52 EDT. A company in New Brunswick running a company in British Columbia by remote control?? Most curious.... maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl wrote in news:aa7f2$42dcd55f$82a12456$23731@news1.tudelft.nl: > Larry wrote: >> You do know Technics is out-of-business, right? Matsushita Electric >> closed the whole company down a couple of years ago. They made the >> best electronic organs in the business, virtually trouble-free. Now, >> alas, there are no parts. Panasonic has amnesia when I call them for >> Technics parts. > > Sounds strange to me, I always considered Technics just another brand > name. > > Met vriendelijke groet, > > Maarten Bakker. > -- Larry Article: 319382 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sndtech@webtv.net (Chris) Subject: Re: resilvering a blue mirror Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:44:30 -0400 Message-ID: <6325-42DD1FDE-715@storefull-3275.bay.webtv.net> References: Ok so I am really not sure about this one. As an antique collector I have always been tought that the original Patina on a piece helps with the value. Dosent resilvering-croming and painting hurt this value? Maybe radios are different? I collect sets but always leave them alone. I guess I could see if the set was really bad or in basement flood like condition but with slight sign of age I am not sure. Opinions?? Chris superchargedband.com Article: 319383 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT - Ping Dave Stinson References: <24152-42DC82FD-432@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 10:57:45 -0500 David Stinson wrote: > WARNING: > The following post is "R" rated. > If you're squeamish or Baptist, please do not scroll down. > If you do, don't complain ;-). [middle bit snipped] > "Holy, Holy, Holy, > Cheese and Macaroni, > Chips and Guacamole..." *>SMACK!<* [Yup - and if you're easily offended by any religious ramblings - don't read - move on (we don't (or at least rarely) talk radios anymore anyway!)]. LOL! And I'm a Baptist (and retired Sunday School teacher). The problem with most of today's "church goers" is they've forgotten the Bible - or at least what it *really* says (vs. some "person's words" - who have their own unholy agenda). That's what has frustrated many of us - that many (if not most) churches have become a social club - who have basically forgotten God- save to use his name only to justify their agenda. They participate in rituals and meaningless activities by habit rather than by conviction- having long ago diverged from inspired living. In the process- they've also forgotten that God has a (IMHO) great sense of humor. It's been the subject of literature for years - even comparatively recent stuff - such as: "Oh really," said Picard, not buying it for a second. "And just where, in all aspects of creation, can your hand be seen?" Q smiled toothily. "Why Picard ... who do you think came up with the duck-billed platypus?" (STTNG). A joke, of course - but one I'm betting even God enjoys - after - he has to have a sense of humor - he put's up with our arrogance, after all... just my .02 -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319384 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: Ping Dave Stinson References: <24152-42DC82FD-432@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:01:12 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > Forget country, you should do rap. "Gary-man, he say: 'Forget dat country crap. You want to buss' sum rhymes, my man, you gotta' RAP!' I know dat bro be right but I ain't goin' there; don't do corn-rows and no gold chains to wear!..." (scritch..scritch-ie, scritchie-scratch scratch!") " ain't ain't ain't ah' got no gold..." (scritch..scritch-ie, scritchie-scratch scratch!") "try-to buy-it gonna put me in the hole..." ------------- Let me go take my meds.... Dave S. Article: 319385 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:03:56 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: resilvering a blue mirror References: <6325-42DD1FDE-715@storefull-3275.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <59a9d$42dd2470$4232bd87$18494@COQUI.NET> Chris wrote: > Ok so I am really not sure about this one. As an antique collector I > have always been tought that the original Patina on a piece helps with > the value. Dosent resilvering-croming and painting hurt this value? > Maybe radios are different? I collect sets but always leave them alone. > I guess I could see if the set was really bad or in basement flood like > condition but with slight sign of age I am not sure. Opinions?? > Chris > > superchargedband.com > Always a controversial topic. To me it depends very much on the model in question...is it a one-of-a-kind or something fairly common? Original Patina comes in different styles. Sometimes its called "damage" and in many cases should be fixed if the damage detracts negatively from its appearance. Old is one thing, beatup is something different. -Bill Article: 319386 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: What happened to IN, OH, & PA? (was Re: 1930 Federal Census) References: <42D8FC57.31F9BC8C@BCPL.net> <1121570204.574543.133130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1121719177.548933.108590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121782151.181941.135040@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:05:56 -0500 John Byrns wrote: > What struck me is why a state like PA should have a lower penetration of > radios in 1930 than a state like say WI which is also rural, it just > doesn't make sense to me. reasonably large population of Shakers, Mennonites, etc.? after all - they shun things "modern"... (to a greater or lesser degree depending on sect) Just a thought... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319387 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: resilvering a blue mirror From: "Haggis" telus.net> References: <6325-42DD1FDE-715@storefull-3275.bay.webtv.net> <59a9d$42dd2470$4232bd87$18494@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:24:13 GMT On 19-Jul-2005, -ex- wrote: >snip> > Original Patina comes in different styles. Sometimes its called > "damage" and in many cases should be fixed if the damage detracts > negatively from its appearance. > > Old is one thing, beatup is something different. > > -Bill Rather nicely put Bill. Cheers! Haggis Article: 319388 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: OT - Ping Dave Stinson References: <24152-42DC82FD-432@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:27:03 GMT Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote: > In the process- they've also forgotten that God has a (IMHO) great sense > of humor. http://www.zorowski.com/churchmice/frames.htm Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319389 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? From: Larry References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> <1121791415.312479.238860@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:47:55 -0400 questforsquier@yahoo.com wrote in news:1121791415.312479.238860@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > Go to > http://www.panasonic.com/consumer_electronics/technics_dj/flash.asp? > and you'll find it there. The Canadian site is not affiliated with > Matsushita Electric and just sells their stuff, and that's why you > don't find links. > > > I must deal with the NJ Panasonic service for Technics organ parts, as always. There are very few parts left, and less over time as the parts get used up and not replaced. -- Larry Article: 319390 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Push pull output question From: Larry References: <1121734432.266693.149750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121790765.345796.48460@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:57:45 -0400 pgonshor@aol.com wrote in news:1121790765.345796.48460@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > Good thought, Larry. However, this output has negative grid bias, not > cathode bias (the cathodes are directly grounded). I'm beginning to > think it has something to do with the output transformer. Removing one > tube changes the impedance match and actually improves it? What do you > think? > Dave > PS The grid a plate voltages are right on. > > > Negative grid bias is formed by plate current, 99% power amp plate current, flowing through a resistor in the negative line of the power supply. It simply moves the ground reference point on the other side of the "cathode" resistor. It doesn't have a separate bias supply, I doubt. Radios are notoriously CHEAP. I'm thinking we have a shorted turn in one of the two transformers. Is the AC drive to both tubes with a tone-modulated sig gen the same at all volume levels? That would clear the input transformer, which probably isn't the problem anyways. One turn in a plate transformer shorted will do what you're seeing. Makes the core mag fields go crazy when the current alternating in the shorted turn causes a crazy magnetic storm in the core. This screws up the output load on the tubes, of course. Does it clear up when you disconnect EITHER tube or just one? What happens if we take the tube that will run single ended and put it in the OTHER socket? Swap 'em and see. Also, put your VTVM on the grid bias line and measure the negative voltage...not on the grid, on the other side of the grid resistor where it goes to the bias resistor (or field coil in older sets). Then, after establishing this voltage, unplug one tube and read it. Plug that tube back in and pull the other tube and read it. Should be about the same decrease in grid bias with either of the two output tubes removed....a cheap tube check. Glad this isn't the cathode biased 5660 power amp in a Leslie 122 organ speaker. The tubes run at near-red-plates, normally, to make them more linear, class A. Pull one tube or blow one filament and the good tube has little bias and increased screen/plate voltage...making it really glow red, then! Some I find run for years that way....amazing. -- Larry Article: 319391 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: OT - Ping Dave Stinson Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 09:56:42 -0700 Message-ID: <24152-42DD30CA-499@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> References: Good grief, David. I just about busted my thrice-patched hernia again, laffin', and nearly fell off the chair. You really needn't have delivered the full monty. With all respect to Randy, our Military are the best of the best, and many are Baptist and most all are Christian. Emulating the Creator, they would probably understand and forgive. And probly get a chuckle too. Bill(oc) Article: 319392 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Eveready E163 replacement/sub? From: Larry References: <1121791090.788063.105880@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 13:13:32 -0400 "frenchy" wrote in news:1121791090.788063.105880@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > Any available substitutes, or something close, for an Eveready mercury > battery for an early 1960's TV remote control? #E163, 4.2 volts, about > half as tall as an AA but maybe a little fatter. Something smaller > than this battery would be ok, not particular about what it looks like > after it's buttoned up. If I have to modify the connections, no > problem. thanks!....Frenchy > > According to http://tes.com/discontinue.html E-163 subs with: E163 4.2 Mercuric Oxide N/A N/A 25.5 16.8 33.2 N/A N/A EN133 4.5V 17.1 D, 49.9 Ht. Unfortunately, EN133 is also a 256MB Kingston memory SIP which makes finding a battery with that number on the net damned near impossible trying to sell you computer parts....dammit. We're lucky E164 and EN133 isn't the rear muffler bracket for the '72 Ford Pinto, though. That would generate millions of hits! -- Larry Article: 319393 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT - Ping Dave Stinson References: <24152-42DD30CA-499@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <58bDe.415$dz.32@bignews4.bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 12:56:27 -0500 Bill Sheppard wrote: > With all respect to Randy, our Military are the best of > the best, and many are Baptist and most all are Christian. Emulating the > Creator, they would probably understand and forgive. And probly get a > chuckle too. That's been my experience - there is indeed something to the old saying: "ain't no atheists in a foxhole"... best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319394 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Push pull output question Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 11:04:56 -0700 Message-ID: <24152-42DD40C8-504@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> References: Mr. Pgonshor: Not having the schematic handy, a couple of questions - you state the 6F6s' cathodes are grounded, and a driver xfmr is used. That means the negative bias must be supplied thru the center tap of the driver's secondary. Where does the center tap of the driver's secondary go? Look and see if there's a large resistor from the c.t. of the power xfmr's HV winding to ground. If so, this is a 'back bias' scheme which develops negative voltage for bias. In some designs the speaker field coil is used for this purpose. Bill(oc) Article: 319395 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42DD4A55.81C81E17@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: OT - Ping Dave Stinson References: <24152-42DC82FD-432@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 18:45:59 GMT Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote: > > In the process- they've also forgotten that God has a (IMHO) great sense > of humor. If you want proof of God's sense of humor, just take a look at mankind. -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Fri Jul 22 11:53:03 EDT 2005 Article: 319396 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> <4L0De.100890$qm.38083@bignews5.bellsouth.net> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 16 Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:05:00 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1121799900 66.65.49.245 (Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:05:00 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:05:00 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319396 In article <4L0De.100890$qm.38083@bignews5.bellsouth.net>, Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote: > Jeff - does the 2000 have the dreaded "cue" problem the 1200 and it's > siblings have? I have a 1300 - and yup- cueing don't work. I like the Randy. I have a Technics SL-1200. Stock. No modifications. What is this "cue" problem you talk of? The arm-lift lever? My machine is totally manual. No auto return. no reject buttons...just a start/stop button and 33/45 speed selector (plus pitch control). -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 319397 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "40zeffer" Subject: ge j-100 chassis needed Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 16:00:22 +0200 Message-ID: <94665ad048c43007c59f22fc30716e24@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Hello group.....i bought a shell of a ge in lansing last week....someone gutted the chassis .stripped it..anyone sell me a chassis..or want a beautiful huge cathedral cabinet.. 1932 ge 10 tube table set jeff sylvania oh Article: 319398 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> <4L0De.100890$qm.38083@bignews5.bellsouth.net> <1121801969.269179.151530@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? Message-ID: <27dDe.17338$uo6.12174@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:10:38 GMT wrote in message news:1121801969.269179.151530@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > > Hope that is helpful. > Dinius --- It would be more helpful if you'd quit your damn morphing and stay away. Using yahoo now (at least since the 13th)? I guess multiple personality disorder is also on your list of problems. (Or our list of problems.) jim menning Article: 319399 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: what are old theater amps being used for? From: Larry References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:14:04 -0400 "Gary Tayman" wrote in news:Q%8De.13865$aY6.4089@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net: > Records limited to 5kHz? Were there ever records made that delibrately > limited this? > RIAA equalization in use TODAY uses bandwidth of 50-15000 Hz. Ever wonder why? What is the audio bandwidth of an FM STATION? 50-15000 Hz. Question answers itself. 78 RPM records have a HIGHER possible bandwidth than any of the lower speeds. 15 Khz was easy to get in the grooves of such a high speed quasilinear track. Noone ever wondered why they sounded "muffled"? The pickup equipment works fantastic at the high frequency white noise/scratches/clicks/pops. It wasn't the equipment. The PROMOTERS of records were AM RADIO STATIONS! Follow the MONEY trail.... -- Larry Article: 319400 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: What happened to IN, OH, & PA? (was Re: 1930 Federal Census) Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:05:44 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <42D8FC57.31F9BC8C@BCPL.net> <1121570204.574543.133130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1121719177.548933.108590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121782151.181941.135040@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1121782151.181941.135040@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" writes: >Then as now, the primary industry in PA is Agriculture. Really. So >radios were concentrated in the population/money centers (at the time >that would be the two obvious (Philadelphia and Pittsburgh), and the >two less-obvious (Scranton/Wilkes-Barre & York), but across the rest of >the state, with few exceptions, the major concerns would have been >rural and the radios many less. Now, Kutztown is in the Allentown >region, Mack Trucks and Bethlehem Steel, and Lehigh University were all >within one hour. And Lehighton (Zinc Mining), Mauch Chunk (Coal), >Berwick (American Car & Foundry), Tamaqua (Fabrics & Clothing) are >within 90 minutes or less. So the region is rich in radios in its own >right. My RCA 741PCS, which listed for $1254.25 in 1948, had a hang tag inside for a repair shop in, of all places, Coatesville! The place today, a bit west of Philadelphia, looks nice enough, but certainly not rich. I imagine back in the day there was a bit more money there >from the then booming steel industry. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 319401 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> <4L0De.100890$qm.38083@bignews5.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <%8eDe.2363$dz.1913@bignews4.bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:22:12 -0500 Stephanie Weil wrote: > Randy. I have a Technics SL-1200. Stock. No modifications. > > What is this "cue" problem you talk of? The arm-lift lever? > > My machine is totally manual. No auto return. no reject buttons...just a > start/stop button and 33/45 speed selector (plus pitch control). I went back and checked - it's the MKII of the 1300, 1400 and 1500 series (not the 1200) that has the cueing problem - and it's the entire arm lift mechanism - not just the cueing lever -- i.e. at the end of the disc -if auto return is enabled -- the stylus is drug back across the vinyl. And yes - one has to be very careful when "hand cueing" the start of a disc - there is *no* damping - the stylus will just drop if you let it go from any height. best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319402 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Push pull output question References: <1121734432.266693.149750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121790765.345796.48460@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121805619.695825.58360@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <0ceDe.36122$e%5.7212@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:24:12 GMT Also use a vom like a 260 not a DMM. The modern meters don't seem to be good at this and can give misleading readings. TerryJ wrote: > The primary of the driver transformer may be open or have shorted turns. > It is shunted by a resistor. Disconnect the resistor and check the > resistance of the driver transformer primary. It is possible to have > some signal pass through the driver transformer due to winding > capacitance. The signal will not be out of phase 180 on each end of the > secondary however and the push pull 6F6s will be conducting in phase > reducing the output greatly. Pulling one tube causes the other to act > like a single ended output tube and work somewhat normally. Theory > sounds good anyway.:) > wrote in message > news:1121805619.695825.58360@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >> In reply to both Larry's and Bill's follow up: >> The center tap of the driver transformer secondary goes to the CT of >> the high voltage winding and to ground through resistors (the "back >> bias" scheme as Bill calls it). >> If I pull one tube, the sound output goes down. If I pull the other >> tube, the output goes up. If I swap tubes, it does the same thing. >> If I pull either tube, the grid bias changes the same amount. >> I did a test not suggested, but revealing. I placed a scope on the >> grid circuit (grids are cross-strapped by a 20k resistor). When I pull >> one tube the AC grid signal increases by 30%. I replaced the tube and >> when I pull the other tube, the AC grid signal decreases by 40%. >> Definately some imbalance in a circuit that should be balanced. The >> results are the same if I swap tubes. BTW, this is an Airline 62-301 >> chassis. Ideas? Thanks! >> > Article: 319403 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> <4L0De.100890$qm.38083@bignews5.bellsouth.net> <1121801969.269179.151530@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <4BeDe.2440$dz.923@bignews4.bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 16:52:10 -0500 questforsquier@yahoo.com wrote: > I have already copied the service manual file in PDF and sent Randy > email, if he wishes to look, and will send it free of charge USPS if he > will provide a mailing address at the address shown by Google Groups or > USENT header. I only ask that he doesn't trash the machine when it's > not a very hard fix I am told, and I couldn't afford to buy it from him > at this time (although I'd love another). As I've repeatedly said, help > is available in NC from a very capable guy named Joel who was > recommended to me in a vintage audio forum by a few members. > > Hope that is helpful. I normally don't respond to Steve's posts, etc. - however I'm making an exception here because he has (IMHO) made an honest and sincere effort to be helpful in this instance -- and for once it *is* on topic. The problem with the MKII series of Technics models SL-1300, 1400 and 1500 is that they have an inherent design flaw that put so much torque on a part that it splits after a few years of use. These started breaking as soon as two years after manufacture, and while Panasonic was aware of it - even tried to redesign the part - there is no "off the shelf" fix - which is sad considering the quality, etc. of the rest of the turntable. Joel, who has a business called "The Turntable Factory" in South Carolina does a very good job of fixing these units - but the price is far more than I'd care to invest in it ($200+) - and since parts aren't available for me to fix it- this unit will be used as-is until I either finish transferring my vinyls - or find another unit. I could use my Garrard SL-95, but it isn't the quality the SL-1300 is (again, IMHO). So while I appreciate Steve's effort to help in this matter - I'm afraid the manual isn't useful without parts- and unfortunately -- they just aren't available. best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319404 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Ping Dave Stinson Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:06:53 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <24152-42DC82FD-432@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> In "Gary Tayman" writes: >Forget country, you should do rap. "Rap is Square Dancing gone terribly, terribly Wrong...." -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 319405 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Push pull output question Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:18:27 -0700 Message-ID: <23216-42DD7C33-525@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> References: Just curious - what is the value of the 'back bias' resistor and what voltage is being developed across it (with one/both 6F6s in circuit)? Bill(oc) Article: 319406 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: AM transmitter Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:09:16 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1121809095.831606.253660@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> whatever you might do to that device couldnt get you in any more trouble than constructing your own transmitter from scratch... and as with most things, a little common sense goes a long ways. randy "Jeff, WB8NHV" wrote in message news:1121809095.831606.253660@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Modifying a Part 15 device such as the WPRDJ could cause the unit to > operate outside FCC specifications and in violation of Part 15 > regulations (not necessarily in that order), as the disclaimer for this > unit states right up front. Speaking for myself, I wouldn't attempt > such a modification, since I am an amateur radio operator licensed over > three decades. I value my license far too much to risk losing it if the > FCC ever got wind of my using a modified Part 15 transmitter which was > operating over power, etc., in the broadcast band or anywhere else in > the RF spectrum. I'm sure other hams reading this feel the same as I do > on this matter. > > Note that non-amateurs can get into plenty of trouble as well by > modifying the WPRDJ's transmitter circuitry if they don't know what > they are doing, so again, I wouldn't even attempt it unless you don't > mind taking one heck of a gamble that the modification won't void the > device's FCC Part 15 certification (and your authority to operate the > device as well). The chances are it will render both null and void. In > other words, you can go ahead and modify the thing to your heart's > content, but remember--you are doing so at your own risk, and you will > be taking a huge one. If anything goes wrong, you could and probably > will wind up having to pay a sizable fine (known in FCC officialdom as > a Notice of Apparent Liability or NAL) or even having to spend time in > jail--or, worse yet, having to do both. The FCC does not fool around in > these cases. Unlicensed operation in bands other than the BC band or > the License-Free Citizens Band, and then only with FCC-certified Part > 15 equipment, is strictly illegal under all circumstances. There are NO > exceptions whatsoever. I would advise anyone contemplating such a > modification to any kind of Part 15 transmitter which could cause it to > operate with excessive input or output power, etc. to read the WPRDJ's > disclaimer very carefully and to heed its warnings. > > BTW, do not attempt to operate any Part 15 certified transmitter, the > WPRDJ or any other, with an antenna longer than that supplied with the > unit. Most of these transmitters are designed for use with antennas no > longer than five feet (sixty inches). Use of any kind of extension on > the antenna may and likely will cause the transmitter to operate at > higher power than that for which it was designed, and outside Part 15 > limits as well. Your unlicensed high-power broadcasting career will end > the second 1) the FCC sends you a notice regarding such operation and > socking you with a wallet-wilting fine, or 2) your modified Part 15 > transmitter fails, whichever occurs sooner. > > Please do not flame me or be upset with the foregoing. I am simply > stating hard facts regarding the FCC's policy on unlicensed use of > radio transmitting equipment. These regulations have been in effect for > many years and are ironclad. If you have an amateur radio license, try > a stunt such as illegal operation with modified Part 15 gear (or any > other type of radio transmitter for which your license does not give > you authority to operate), and the FCC finds out (which they will), you > can kiss that license goodbye forever. The FCC has a zero-tolerance > policy where out-of-band unlicensed operation by hams is concerned; it > is one strike, you're out. > > If you want to have your own legal radio station, try setting up one > on the Internet. Radio365.com and other Internet radio sites have all > the information, software, etc. you'll need to set up a completely > legal station with more range (worldwide) than any U.S. over-the-air > broadcaster can legally claim under present FCC rules. > > 73 (best of regards), > > Jeff, WB8NHV (mailto: jeffhs@ameritech.net) > > Fairport Harbor, Ohio USA > Article: 319407 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Theremin- Again! Posted Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 17:14:08 -0600 Message-ID: References: my news server has never carried that group, and the way i was accessing that group via a web based replayer seems to have gone away. anyone know of a simple web based way to access the pics in that group? thx randy "Carl WA1KPD" wrote in message news:vfudnf_J3NYYcEHfRVn-hQ@comcast.com... > Posted in Alt Binaries.pictures.radio > > -- > Carl > WA1KPD > Visit My Boatanchor Collection at > http://home.comcast.net/~chnord/wa1kpd.html > > "xrongor" wrote in message > news:dbeb0j$b7dl$1@news3.infoave.net... >> i'd like to look at it if you dont mind... im guessing im not alone so >> probably a link to it would be best. since you did the hard part, if you >> email it to xrongor yahoo i could stick it up somewhere and post a link. >> >> thx >> randy >> >> "Carl WA1KPD" wrote in message >> news:nr6dnTnWP4Mo80ffRVn-1g@comcast.com... >>> When all the discussions about Theremins came up I remembered in the >>> back of my mind a PE article that showed how to convert as AC/DC radio >>> to one. >>> Well I found a copy of that issue at the NE show yesterday which was >>> also full of all sorts of memories. (August 62 and I would have been 9 >>> at the time). Anyway if anyone wants a copy I will scan it and either >>> post or email it. >>> >>> -- >>> Carl >>> WA1KPD >>> Visit My Boatanchor Collection at >>> http://home.comcast.net/~chnord/wa1kpd.html >>> >>> >> >> > > Article: 319408 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Push pull output question From: Larry References: <1121734432.266693.149750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121790765.345796.48460@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121805619.695825.58360@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:15:02 -0400 pgonshor@aol.com wrote in news:1121805619.695825.58360@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > In reply to both Larry's and Bill's follow up: > The center tap of the driver transformer secondary goes to the CT of > the high voltage winding and to ground through resistors (the "back > bias" scheme as Bill calls it). > If I pull one tube, the sound output goes down. If I pull the other > tube, the output goes up. If I swap tubes, it does the same thing. > If I pull either tube, the grid bias changes the same amount. > I did a test not suggested, but revealing. I placed a scope on the > grid circuit (grids are cross-strapped by a 20k resistor). When I pull > one tube the AC grid signal increases by 30%. I replaced the tube and > when I pull the other tube, the AC grid signal decreases by 40%. > Definately some imbalance in a circuit that should be balanced. The > results are the same if I swap tubes. BTW, this is an Airline 62-301 > chassis. Ideas? Thanks! > > I think the side where the output goes UP when you pull the tube has some shorted windings. When you pull current through the shorted windings, the magnetic storm it causes from the shorted turn in the core cancels the drive from the tubes....it saturates, magnetically. But, that's hard to troubleshoot from this far off.... -- Larry Article: 319409 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Push pull output question From: Larry References: <1121734432.266693.149750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121790765.345796.48460@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121805619.695825.58360@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:26:06 -0400 "TerryJ" wrote in news:HaCdnV7I1cFh90DfRVn-og@comcast.com: > The primary of the driver transformer may be open or have shorted > turns. It is shunted by a resistor. Disconnect the resistor and check > the resistance of the driver transformer primary. It is possible to > have some signal pass through the driver transformer due to winding > capacitance. The signal will not be out of phase 180 on each end of > the secondary however and the push pull 6F6s will be conducting in > phase reducing the output greatly. Pulling one tube causes the other > to act like a single ended output tube and work somewhat normally. > Theory sounds good anyway.:) > He can check the driver transformer by pulling both tubes. Then, if he measures from each grid socket to chassis, he can see if both signals are the same level. The shorted transformer secondary winding will not show the same AC on both grids with signal input from the driver tube. If he has the luxury of a dual trace scope, he can check the phase inversion, too. Unplugging both tubes eliminates the output transformer for the moment. To test the output transformer, shut down the radio completely and unplug for safety. Leave the audio power tubes out of their sockets. Allow the HV PS to bleed off. Apply audio from another audio power amp to each plate connection on the output transformer, one at a time to chassis ground. What he hears in the speaker won't be very loud, but it should be EQUAL and UNDISTORED. I use another audio plate transformer hooked up backwards for high voltage audio power for this test, here. It's a simple single-ended plate transformer off an old AA5 radio I scrapped, the kind that's riveted to the 4" speaker. Apply audio power to the speaker wires and plenty of high impedance drive comes out the plate-B+ wires to drive this test. Your favorite genre of music helps make this test more enjoyable...(c; -- Larry Article: 319410 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: This got me AGAIN! From: Larry References: <3oSdnVKtcfpB_kDfRVn-hw@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:28:38 -0400 "Mark Oppat" wrote in news:3oSdnVKtcfpB_kDfRVn-hw@comcast.com: > I still dont understand the short, I just cant figure how its > happening as I have the coil apart and the outer windings are clear of > any short... so how can it be? No solution yet. > Isn't the extra winding an audio bucking coil to lower the hum? -- Larry Article: 319411 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: what are old theater amps being used for? From: Larry References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:29:50 -0400 John Stone wrote in news:BF02EC8F.1D747%jmsent2@comcast.net: > Baloney. RIAA eq has never had such a restriction on bandwidth. It is > simply based on 3 time constants and can be calculated far beyond the > frequency response of the cartridge on both ends of the spectrum. > Look at a post war record album jacket. They actually BRAG that the 33's have 50-15000 Hz bandwidth.... -- Larry Article: 319412 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1121809095.831606.253660@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: AM transmitter Message-ID: <97hDe.156471$go.95976@fed1read05> Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:43:48 -0400 "Jeff, WB8NHV" wrote in message news:1121809095.831606.253660@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Modifying a Part 15 device such as the WPRDJ could cause the unit to > operate outside FCC specifications and in violation of Part 15 > regulations (not necessarily in that order), as the disclaimer for this > unit states right up front. Speaking for myself, I wouldn't attempt > such a modification, since I am an amateur radio operator licensed over > three decades. I value my license far too much to risk losing it if the > FCC ever got wind of my using a modified Part 15 transmitter which was > operating over power, etc., in the broadcast band or anywhere else in > the RF spectrum. I'm sure other hams reading this feel the same as I do > on this matter. > > Note that non-amateurs can get into plenty of trouble as well by > modifying the WPRDJ's transmitter circuitry if they don't know what > they are doing, so again, I wouldn't even attempt it unless you don't > mind taking one heck of a gamble that the modification won't void the > device's FCC Part 15 certification (and your authority to operate the > device as well). The chances are it will render both null and void. In > other words, you can go ahead and modify the thing to your heart's > content, but remember--you are doing so at your own risk, and you will > be taking a huge one. If anything goes wrong, you could and probably > will wind up having to pay a sizable fine (known in FCC officialdom as > a Notice of Apparent Liability or NAL) or even having to spend time in > jail--or, worse yet, having to do both. The FCC does not fool around in > these cases. Unlicensed operation in bands other than the BC band or > the License-Free Citizens Band, and then only with FCC-certified Part > 15 equipment, is strictly illegal under all circumstances. There are NO > exceptions whatsoever. I would advise anyone contemplating such a > modification to any kind of Part 15 transmitter which could cause it to > operate with excessive input or output power, etc. to read the WPRDJ's > disclaimer very carefully and to heed its warnings. > > BTW, do not attempt to operate any Part 15 certified transmitter, the > WPRDJ or any other, with an antenna longer than that supplied with the > unit. Most of these transmitters are designed for use with antennas no > longer than five feet (sixty inches). Use of any kind of extension on > the antenna may and likely will cause the transmitter to operate at > higher power than that for which it was designed, and outside Part 15 > limits as well. Your unlicensed high-power broadcasting career will end > the second 1) the FCC sends you a notice regarding such operation and > socking you with a wallet-wilting fine, or 2) your modified Part 15 > transmitter fails, whichever occurs sooner. > > Please do not flame me or be upset with the foregoing. I am simply > stating hard facts regarding the FCC's policy on unlicensed use of > radio transmitting equipment. These regulations have been in effect for > many years and are ironclad. If you have an amateur radio license, try > a stunt such as illegal operation with modified Part 15 gear (or any > other type of radio transmitter for which your license does not give > you authority to operate), and the FCC finds out (which they will), you > can kiss that license goodbye forever. The FCC has a zero-tolerance > policy where out-of-band unlicensed operation by hams is concerned; it > is one strike, you're out. > > If you want to have your own legal radio station, try setting up one > on the Internet. Radio365.com and other Internet radio sites have all > the information, software, etc. you'll need to set up a completely > legal station with more range (worldwide) than any U.S. over-the-air > broadcaster can legally claim under present FCC rules. > > 73 (best of regards), > > Jeff, WB8NHV (mailto: jeffhs@ameritech.net) > > Fairport Harbor, Ohio USA > Jeff In reality the FCC won't do much. It would take many, many ignored warnings before any fines are issued. Just look at the enforcement news that appears in any of the Ham journals. Someone playing a around with a modified part 15 device is small potatoes. It would take numerous complaints before the FCC even became involved. You're talking enforcement that is usually reserved for ongoing egregious activities. Pete K1ZJH From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Fri Jul 22 11:53:07 EDT 2005 Article: 319413 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> <4L0De.100890$qm.38083@bignews5.bellsouth.net> <%8eDe.2363$dz.1913@bignews4.bellsouth.net> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 14 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 00:35:19 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1121819719 66.65.49.245 (Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:35:19 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:35:19 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!news2.wam.umd.edu!nntp.abs.net!newsfeed2.telusplanet.net!newsfeed.telus.net!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319413 In article <%8eDe.2363$dz.1913@bignews4.bellsouth.net>, Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote: > I went back and checked - it's the MKII of the 1300, 1400 and 1500 > series (not the 1200) that has the cueing problem - and it's the entire Ahhh!! Thank you for clearing that up. I was beginning to have fits that the $500 turntable I scrimped and saved for so many years ago was a ticking timebomb waiting to break down. -- Stephanie (I can rest easy for a while) Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 319414 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> <4L0De.100890$qm.38083@bignews5.bellsouth.net> <%8eDe.2363$dz.1913@bignews4.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:28:35 -0500 Stephanie Weil wrote: > Ahhh!! Thank you for clearing that up. > > I was beginning to have fits that the $500 turntable I scrimped and saved > for so many years ago was a ticking timebomb waiting to break down. Sorry, didn't mean to be a scare - I'll treat you to dinner next time you're in town to make up for it! best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319415 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: AM transmitter References: <1121809095.831606.253660@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <97hDe.156471$go.95976@fed1read05> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 20:33:04 -0500 Uncle Peter wrote: > It would > take numerous complaints before the FCC even became involved. > You're talking enforcement that is usually reserved for ongoing > egregious activities. Depends on the violation. A slightly "hot" am broadcast transmitter - MAYBE a cease and desist letter if it gathers enough complaints. Maybe. OTOH - using fake call letters, i.e. being a pirate broadcast station - charlie gets *real nasty* real quick! best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319416 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <3oSdnVKtcfpB_kDfRVn-hw@comcast.com> Subject: Re: This got me AGAIN! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:34:31 -0400 "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns9698C6A5DCE2Cnoone@63.223.7.253... > "Mark Oppat" wrote in > news:3oSdnVKtcfpB_kDfRVn-hw@comcast.com: > > > I still dont understand the short, I just cant figure how its > > happening as I have the coil apart and the outer windings are clear of > > any short... so how can it be? No solution yet. > > > > Isn't the extra winding an audio bucking coil to lower the hum? > > -- > Larry 100 hundred ohms is ONE heck of a bucking coil, especially in a four ohm speaker. Pete Article: 319417 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Steve Stone Subject: Re: What happened to IN, OH, & PA? (was Re: 1930 Federal Census) Message-ID: References: <42D8FC57.31F9BC8C@BCPL.net> <1121570204.574543.133130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1121719177.548933.108590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121782151.181941.135040@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 01:36:48 GMT > And why, those of you coming from points north and west to Kutztown, > you should take the scenic route into the area. With specific reference > to Pennsylvania Route 6. And for those from other areas, don't forget to have your picture taken at the Frackville Exit sign on the interstate. Article: 319418 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Steve Stone Subject: Re: What happened to IN, OH, & PA? (was Re: 1930 Federal Census) Message-ID: References: <42D8FC57.31F9BC8C@BCPL.net> <1121570204.574543.133130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1121719177.548933.108590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121782151.181941.135040@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121795302.459300.199040@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 01:38:28 GMT In article <1121795302.459300.199040@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, > > Shameless Plug III: Don't forget to visit the famous Archibald Pothole just down the road >from the former Sugarmans Dept Store. Article: 319419 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1121809095.831606.253660@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <97hDe.156471$go.95976@fed1read05> Subject: Re: AM transmitter Message-ID: Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 21:43:01 -0400 "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message news:aQhDe.2880$dz.787@bignews4.bellsouth.net... > Uncle Peter wrote: > > > > It would > > take numerous complaints before the FCC even became involved. > > You're talking enforcement that is usually reserved for ongoing > > egregious activities. > > Depends on the violation. A slightly "hot" am broadcast transmitter - > MAYBE a cease and desist letter if it gathers enough complaints. Maybe. > OTOH - using fake call letters, i.e. being a pirate broadcast station - > charlie gets *real nasty* real quick! > > best regards... > -- > randy guttery > Hello Randy We had a FULL BLOWN FM pirate in the Hartford area that lasted a few years. They were selling commercial time, and that was the final straw that finally got enough complaints from other broadcasters to get the FCC involved. It took several months of legal battling to get them to finally shutdown. My point relates to a slightly "hot" AM broadcaster. Someone running a slightly oversized antenna with a few extra dB of power.. Pete Article: 319420 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:15:10 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: AM transmitter References: <1121809095.831606.253660@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <97hDe.156471$go.95976@fed1read05> Message-ID: <5b94e$42ddb3b8$4232bd74$12527@COQUI.NET> Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote: > Uncle Peter wrote: > > >> It would >> take numerous complaints before the FCC even became involved. >> You're talking enforcement that is usually reserved for ongoing >> egregious activities. > > > Depends on the violation. A slightly "hot" am broadcast transmitter - > MAYBE a cease and desist letter if it gathers enough complaints. Maybe. > OTOH - using fake call letters, i.e. being a pirate broadcast station - > charlie gets *real nasty* real quick! > > best regards... Remember the Kentucky State Militia guy (Major Steve Anderson) that broadcast on shortwave for about a year. Several hundred watts as I recall and heard almost nightly across most of the US. Used his real name and address and fake call letters. They never did shut him down. He'd still be on the air if it weren't for trying to cut a Ky State Trooper's car in half with an automatic weapon (trooper's teenage girlfriend sitting inside)....and going on the lam for over a year. He was eventually captured and received 15 years on the firearms incident. http://www.diymedia.net/feature/pirate/f032001.htm http://www.adl.org/learn/news/kent_militia.asp If the FCC paid no attention to him then they aren't going to get very excited about a hobbyist souping up a Wild Planet RadioDJ toy. -Bill From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Fri Jul 22 11:53:08 EDT 2005 Article: 319421 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: DSI industries? Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 19:20:22 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <11drd779q684s81@corp.supernews.com> References: <11dmid75rforn05@corp.supernews.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 22 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.news2me.com!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-12!sn-xit-10!sn-xit-01!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319421 "gb" wrote in message news:PoKdnZRDXsL4f0HfRVn-tg@comcast.com... > "David Axt" wrote in message > news:11dmid75rforn05@corp.supernews.com... >>I just bought (well it was given to me) a Frequency counter from DSI >>Industries of San Diego. Has anybody ever heard of these guys? I am >>trying (in vain) to find an owner's manual. >> >> Thanks, >> David > > Vintage Manuals also lists manuals for 2 DSI counters > http://www.w7fg.com/manuals.php?find=D > Thanks! I repair guitar amps so I have no idea what I need a frequency counter for. I guess that I could not pass up the price....free! -DA Article: 319422 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike" References: <1121809095.831606.253660@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <97hDe.156471$go.95976@fed1read05> <5b94e$42ddb3b8$4232bd74$12527@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: AM transmitter Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 02:49:58 GMT OMG. guys. I didnt ask for a discussion about the FCC, i dont give a hoot about the FCC. I run a 120Watt linear amp on my CB, thats tells you how much I care about the FCC. I had a WPRDJ, and I modified with with an IRF510 output stage. I couldnt get no more than a watt, and the range sucked. Besides, I lost my modulation transformer, I cant find it anyware. I cannot tell you how many times I replaced the CMOS ICs in that POS. they would simply "blow-up" after a while. Plus it sounded like crap. I want a tube one. thats all im asking for. I aint got any OSC coil to make a tube one. got plenty of tubes, hell I'll use an 807 tube, dont have a schematic for it, but I had a 700VCT transformer to power it. "-ex-" wrote in message news:5b94e$42ddb3b8$4232bd74$12527@COQUI.NET... > Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote: > > Uncle Peter wrote: > > > > > >> It would > >> take numerous complaints before the FCC even became involved. > >> You're talking enforcement that is usually reserved for ongoing > >> egregious activities. > > > > > > Depends on the violation. A slightly "hot" am broadcast transmitter - > > MAYBE a cease and desist letter if it gathers enough complaints. Maybe. > > OTOH - using fake call letters, i.e. being a pirate broadcast station - > > charlie gets *real nasty* real quick! > > > > best regards... > > Remember the Kentucky State Militia guy (Major Steve Anderson) that > broadcast on shortwave for about a year. Several hundred watts as I > recall and heard almost nightly across most of the US. Used his real > name and address and fake call letters. They never did shut him down. > He'd still be on the air if it weren't for trying to cut a Ky State > Trooper's car in half with an automatic weapon (trooper's teenage > girlfriend sitting inside)....and going on the lam for over a year. > > He was eventually captured and received 15 years on the firearms incident. > > http://www.diymedia.net/feature/pirate/f032001.htm > http://www.adl.org/learn/news/kent_militia.asp > > If the FCC paid no attention to him then they aren't going to get very > excited about a hobbyist souping up a Wild Planet RadioDJ toy. > > -Bill Article: 319423 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike" References: Subject: Re: AM transmitter Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 02:53:04 GMT the main reason I want this, is to transmit to my tube radios around the house. Tube radios with solid state transmitters just dont mix. sounded ok with a SS radio, but tube, the SS transmitter sounded crappy. "Mike" wrote in message news:BvSCe.17503$B52.6792@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com... > Anyone have any instructions pages, or diagrams on how to make my own > oscillator coil, such as whats in an AA5? > > Im trying to build a decent AM transmitter, and Syl's design didnt work for > me, and i ended up loosing the coil when I parted it. > > Anyway, i found a knight kit broadcaster schematic, that Im going to attempt > to build, and it needs an osc coil, among a bunch of other ones that do. > > Anyone have a site, or a diagram on how to wind my own osc coil? > > thanks. I dont have any junker AA5 radios. > > Article: 319424 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike" References: Subject: Re: AM transmitter Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 02:53:58 GMT I dont have an amature license, nor can I afford one, nor can I afford the equipment to even use it. Hell, I dont think I could pass the test to even get one. "Mike" wrote in message news:BvSCe.17503$B52.6792@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com... > Anyone have any instructions pages, or diagrams on how to make my own > oscillator coil, such as whats in an AA5? > > Im trying to build a decent AM transmitter, and Syl's design didnt work for > me, and i ended up loosing the coil when I parted it. > > Anyway, i found a knight kit broadcaster schematic, that Im going to attempt > to build, and it needs an osc coil, among a bunch of other ones that do. > > Anyone have a site, or a diagram on how to wind my own osc coil? > > thanks. I dont have any junker AA5 radios. > > Article: 319425 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike" References: Subject: Re: Ballast Tubes Need Homes Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 02:56:18 GMT got one for my moto VT-71? I need one. "David Stinson" wrote in message news:evRCe.4968$dU3.3066@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > I have some assorted ballast tubes. > To which tube dealer should I give them, > so others may have access to them? Article: 319426 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 23:15:54 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: AM transmitter References: <1121809095.831606.253660@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <97hDe.156471$go.95976@fed1read05> <5b94e$42ddb3b8$4232bd74$12527@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Mike wrote: > OMG. guys. > > > I didnt ask for a discussion about the FCC, Please accept my apologies for straying from the topic. -Bill Article: 319427 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: AM transmitter Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:32:17 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1121809095.831606.253660@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <97hDe.156471$go.95976@fed1read05> <5b94e$42ddb3b8$4232bd74$12527@COQUI.NET> "Mike" wrote in message news:qZiDe.19780$B52.2029@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com... > OMG. guys. > > > I didnt ask for a discussion about the FCC, i dont give a hoot about the > FCC. I run a 120Watt linear amp on my CB, thats tells you how much I care > about the FCC. > > I had a WPRDJ, and I modified with with an IRF510 output stage. I couldnt > get no more than a watt, and the range sucked. Besides, I lost my modulation > transformer, I cant find it anyware. I cannot tell you how many times I > replaced the CMOS ICs in that POS. they would simply "blow-up" after a > while. Plus it sounded like crap. > > I want a tube one. thats all im asking for. I aint got any OSC coil to make > a tube one. got plenty of tubes, hell I'll use an 807 tube, dont have a > schematic for it, but I had a 700VCT transformer to power it. You can make something that will oscillate in the range you want by making around 60 turns of 22AWG enameled wire around a 1/2" form. Tap the coil (by bringing about 1" of wire off the coil and twisting it, before continuing the windings) at about 10 turns. This will get you into the X-band using a standard tuning cap. If you could use anything around 1050- 1080, I may have a crystal you could use, and that would be much more stable than a VFO, and much less noisy than a PLL. Cicuitry for a tube BCB transmitter is pretty simple, there are plenty of schematics available for 'carrier current' transmitters (which can be modded to run into a longwire if you REALLY want to go that route). I could draw one up for either crystal or Hartley oscillator (VFO) (I've built enough of them.. ) Article: 319428 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: OT - Ping Dave Stinson Date: 19 Jul 2005 23:48:01 -0500 Message-ID: <42ddd73a$0$16776$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: <24152-42DD30CA-499@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> Bill Sheppard wrote: > Good grief, David. I just about busted my thrice-patched hernia again, > laffin', and nearly fell off the chair. You really needn't have > delivered the full monty. > With all respect to Randy, our Military are the best of > the best, and many are Baptist and most all are Christian. Emulating the > Creator, they would probably understand and forgive. And probly get a > chuckle too. > Bill(oc) > I know one who is Jewish. Bubba Article: 319429 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "arne thormodsen" References: <42d82663.726654@news.inet.tele.dk> Subject: Re: Strange record label Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 05:24:23 GMT "robert casey" wrote in message news:ulfDe.6093$oZ.1989@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Gary Tayman wrote: >> Gee, I'd hate to hear the record! >> >> > You ain't whistlin' Dixie.... :-) > > I thought that they spoke English in Georgia, at > least in Atlanta..... :-) "English", is that what they call whatever it is they speak down there? Never could understand a word of it... --arne (or make that "aahhrn" ;-) From Please Reply To Group Only Fri Jul 22 11:53:10 EDT 2005 Article: 319430 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Sofa Slug" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: AM transmitter Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 00:09:20 -0700 Organization: Please Reply To Group Only Lines: 38 Message-ID: References: <1121809095.831606.253660@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <97hDe.156471$go.95976@fed1read05> <5b94e$42ddb3b8$4232bd74$12527@COQUI.NET> Reply-To: "Sofa Slug" NNTP-Posting-Host: xxxxxxx.dialup.bol.ucla.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: daisy.noc.ucla.edu 1121843382 24450 169.232.231.000 (20 Jul 2005 07:09:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ucla.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 07:09:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4807.1700 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319430 "Mike" wrote in message = news:qZiDe.19780$B52.2029@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com... > OMG. guys. >=20 >=20 > I didnt ask for a discussion about the FCC, i dont give a hoot about = the > FCC. I run a 120Watt linear amp on my CB, thats tells you how much I = care > about the FCC. >=20 > I had a WPRDJ, and I modified with with an IRF510 output stage. I = couldnt > get no more than a watt, and the range sucked. Besides, I lost my = modulation > transformer, I cant find it anyware. I cannot tell you how many times = I > replaced the CMOS ICs in that POS. they would simply "blow-up" after a > while. Plus it sounded like crap. >=20 > I want a tube one. thats all im asking for. I aint got any OSC coil = to make > a tube one. got plenty of tubes, hell I'll use an 807 tube, dont have = a > schematic for it, but I had a 700VCT transformer to power it. Xmitter Circuits: http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/9178/radios/amxmit.html Suitable DIY Coil(?) ...Scroll 1/2 way down the page for "The oscillator = coil" link: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/Coils-1.html Article: 319431 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: Strange record label References: <42d82663.726654@news.inet.tele.dk> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:40:45 GMT arne thormodsen wrote: > "English", is that what they call whatever it is they speak down > there? Never could understand a word of it... That's the whole idea, Yank..... Article: 319432 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: Re: Not mine, but interesting.... either a tuner or convertor? Message-ID: <06krd1dko9pb6r05mtk4q8iaeggjqrvnh9@4ax.com> References: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 04:20:48 GMT On Mon, 18 Jul 2005 14:48:15 +0900, "Brenda Ann" wrote: >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=5789666618&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT the name seems fitting, as that is about all the reception you will get is static :) Phil Article: 319433 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <1121862277.418104.252380@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7CrDe.876$Uk3.97@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1121878373.374606.100790@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: (1000) 78rpm shellac records-Ebay-$10 Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:25:26 -0400 Message-ID: <42de8998$0$798$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> > > I hope you are being politely sarcastic, Dave. This is one of the many > incarnations of the eight-track scam and he posted one earlier this > week also. > > best regards, and be careful out there! > > Steven > Could you elaborate a bit, what is "the eight-track scam" ? I am not at all interested in these records but looking at the auction I see nothing that indicates a ascam to me. Looks like he has solid feedback, although I don't think spamming a newsgroup is a very good way to drum up business. Am I missing something? Larry Article: 319434 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: 12V plate tubes... many types! References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:10:40 GMT > > I had NO idea there were that many designed for 12V plate (basically, auto) > use! Why so many??? I suspect that it was because of several tube manufacturers developing at the same time similar but not identical new tubes. Like in the chip industry each wanted to hit the market fast and be first. Each maker wanting to be the one who makes the "standard" set of tubes that every radio maker would use. Article: 319435 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: What are these tubes? References: Message-ID: <9uwDe.2014$6f.1082@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:12:21 GMT Bruce Mercer wrote: > A friend told me about a bunch of old tubes he saw at an antique mall so I > went to take a look, just knowing there would be a shelf of NOS 50's going > begging. There was an odd assortment of stuff I knew and some I had never > seen. 01A, 47, 57, 59, 71A,a wole bunch that had been thoughfully Be aware that such tubes may have open filaments, and would be useless for anything other than a non functioning display item. Article: 319436 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: 12V plate tubes... many types! Date: 20 Jul 2005 18:22:24 GMT Message-ID: References: robert casey (wa2ise@ix.netcom.com) writes: >> >> I had NO idea there were that many designed for 12V plate (basically, auto) >> use! Why so many??? > > I suspect that it was because of several tube manufacturers > developing at the same time similar but not identical new > tubes. Like in the chip industry each wanted to hit the > market fast and be first. Each maker wanting to be the > one who makes the "standard" set of tubes that every radio > maker would use. I suspect they didn't know that things were about to change. There was a move to 12v tubes, and even though transistors were around nobody anticipated that they'd be taking over in a few years. In the mid-fifties transistors were still expensive, didn't have much in the way of high frequency capability, and they were still so new that few knew how to use them properly. So the tube manufacturers went on as they'd been doing. If you expect demand, you put money into development. The Nuvistor came along at about the same time, and it had the advantage of size, besides being better in some applications. There was even a 12V Nuvistor or two. But instead of a long life of 12V tubes, transistors became good a lot faster, including the addition of the FET. ONce they could handle higher frequencies, and do it well, they did a better job of operating off 12V than the 12V tubes, so the things were retired after a relatively short life. A small device that used little current versus large devices that still required quite a bit of current for the filament alone? A fairly easy choice once the transistors could do what was needed. Had things gone differently, and transistors didn't work out (like that famous QST article that said they'd not be much use to hams), the development done on 12V tubes would have been warranted, and their design life time would have been longer. Michael Article: 319437 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: AM transmitter From: Larry References: <1121809095.831606.253660@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <97hDe.156471$go.95976@fed1read05> <5b94e$42ddb3b8$4232bd74$12527@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:24:31 -0400 "Mike" wrote in news:qZiDe.19780$B52.2029@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com: > I didnt ask for a discussion about the FCC, i dont give a hoot about the > FCC. I run a 120Watt linear amp on my CB, thats tells you how much I care > about the FCC. > X-Trace: tornado.ohiordc.rr.com 1121827798 65.27.139.235 (Tue, 19 Jul 2005 22:49:58 EDT) Careful....That's YOU and your IP the stupids at Road Runner expose on ever post......(c; -- Larry Article: 319438 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: AM transmitter From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:26:09 -0400 "Mike" wrote in news:k0jDe.19803$B52.354@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com: > Tube radios with solid state transmitters just dont mix. You can't hear AM broadcasters? They're all using Harris digital transmitters, now, especially the 50KW boys.... -- Larry Article: 319439 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: AM transmitter From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:29:19 -0400 "Mike" wrote in news:a1jDe.19810$B52.18765@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com: > I dont have an amature license, nor can I afford one, nor can I afford > the equipment to even use it. Hell, I dont think I could pass the test > to even get one. > You don't have $8? How can you afford antique radios? You can buy an old Yaesu at any hamfest for under $100, especially if it's just broken. Dollar a watt...a good deal. Of course, this assumes you can afford the GAS to drive to the fest....(d^:) -- Larry Article: 319440 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: (1000) 78rpm shellac records-Ebay-$10 From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1121862277.418104.252380@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7CrDe.876$Uk3.97@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1121878373.374606.100790@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <42de8998$0$798$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:30:46 GMT In article <42de8998$0$798$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com>, larry@lfowkesNOSPAM.com says... > > >> Steven >> > >Could you elaborate a bit, > >Larry > > Notice who it came from Larry.... nothing wrong with the auctions... other than as you say spamming newsgroup etc... the guys has a 99.8% rating with 1000 auctions... John k9uwa Article: 319441 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: AM transmitter References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 13:31:42 -0500 Larry wrote: > You can't hear AM broadcasters? They're all using Harris digital > transmitters, now, especially the 50KW boys.... Not all of them - still have an MW5 on the air... best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319442 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: AM transmitter From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:31:50 -0400 robert casey wrote in news:dywDe.2018$6f.475@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net: > wa2ise You boys look around for a Heathkit DX-100. Makes a great little "Phono Oscillator" into a long wire with a little tuner....(c; Plate modulation still sounds great. -- Larry Article: 319443 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: DSI industries? From: Larry References: <11dmid75rforn05@corp.supernews.com> <11drd779q684s81@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:34:01 -0400 "David Axt" wrote in news:11drd779q684s81@corp.supernews.com: > Thanks! I repair guitar amps so I have no idea what I need a frequency > counter for. I guess that I could not pass up the price....free! > > -DA > None of us has ever needed a "reason" to bring something free home unless it weighs over 500 pounds or is over 7' tall....(c; Of course, this doesn't include live girls. -- Larry Article: 319444 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Push pull output question From: Larry References: <1121734432.266693.149750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121819683.906303.38400@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1121872597.671841.222210@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 14:35:12 -0400 pgonshor@aol.com wrote in news:1121872597.671841.222210@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > Thanks for all the > help. The set now plays loud and clear with a good transformer (wired > properly, that is!). > Whew! Glad that one's fixed...(c; Next problem..... -- Larry Article: 319445 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:41:19 GMT > ........ My favorite is when there is a large lot -- speakers are placed > in each of the far corners, facing inward. Sounds totally horrible! > .................> -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > I believe that too many times (not necessarily you Gary) the sound persons try to fill a venue from wall to wall with big sound. But the venue is not exclusively focused on the "sound" (the people are there primarily for another reason). That is when the music or sound begins to interfere with the venues primary purpose. Try this, Pick a spot where the music is to be obviously concentrated (primary sound), like a dance floor would be or band stand or in front of the DJ. Set the acoustics to play that area and let the spill over to be enjoyed by those who prefer to converse with out shouting or being distracted. But can the DJ's ego handle the fact that this would be considered background music (off of the primary area of sound concentration). Once I adopted this philosophy when I was a live sound engineer, there were many more pleased people. Those included those who wanted the loud or full sound to totally focus on the music and those who wanted to be near the excitement but still hold an intimate or personal conversation as a group of friends would do. Paul. Article: 319446 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42DEACF0.51139526@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Scrapping a Technics SL-Q300 turntable Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:58:58 GMT The platter is missing, but the guts are still there if anyone needs anything. Most of the hardware is there and in good shape. It goes to the land fill next week. -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 319447 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Those Coming to Kutztown References: <1121863089.326800.225130@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:23:35 GMT I was all set to go when my wife informed me that we have a wedding to go to the same weekend in Syracuse, Dammit Peter Wieck wrote: > As a service to those coming to Kutztown from points afar, I would be > glad to make itineraries through Pennsylvania to include > family-oriented sites as well as special-interest sites. Just let me > know how much time you have, from which direction you are originating > and what piques your interest. There are even some _Radio Related_ > sites that might be included depending on direction and timing. > > Lemme see: > Rollercoasters (One very large one less than one hour away) > Hershey Park (about 2.5 hours) > Waterfalls (one park (two hours away) alone has over 19) > Coal Mines (tours offered) > Active Steam Railroads > The world's first oil well > Historical Sites, active and museum-type > Battlefields > Scenic roads > "The Grand Canyon of Pennsylvania" > The Daniel Boone Homestead > Independence Hall & the Liberty Bell > Gettysburg > Baseball > The Atwater Kent Factory (split and converted, but still standing) > And too much else to cover here. > > This could be going or coming, BTW. > > http://www.visitpa.com/visitpa/home.pa > http://www.wegoplaces.com/Article_1.aspx > http://www.priweb.org/ed/pgws/history/pennsylvania/pennsylvania.html > http://www.dcnr.state.pa.us/stateparks/parks/rickettsglen.aspx > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 319448 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter Grabarczyk Subject: Re: Watzit? References: <86952$42d85e9b$4232be0a$13012@COQUI.NET> <42d87d58_2@news1.prserv.net> <1121495337.893887.191730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8onhd1hf9j63flu276j1lit0atm27lomfr@4ax.com> <3CMCe.145$7H5.92@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:07:03 GMT Syl wrote: > "Carter Grabarczyk" a opiné: >> I am an electrical engineer and the engineer's mantra is "When all >> else fails, read the instructions". > > I'm sorry I'm not an engineer, just someone who has a technical > background and studied the workings of crystals and Piezo elements > and restore those. I wish I was an engineer, I could just read the > instructions and be done with it...;o) Syl, Just so you don't think being an engineer is *too* easy, let me clarify my statement about instructions. Also can't let your engineering shot go unchallenged. What I am referring to is instructions for *hardware*. It may be silly of me, but I believe that (at least generally speaking), the manufacturer is *the* expert on his product. For about the last ten years or so, my engineering duties consisted of doing forensic science for my employer, a large telephone company: acoustic shock, electrical shock, noise mitigation, RF interference, fire and/or arson investigations, corrosion/electrolysis, stray neutral currents as related to agricultural livestock, lightning strike investigations, high voltage protection, bonding and grounding issues, power crosses and testifying about all of the above in a court of law or before the state Public Service Commission (not to mention actually having to resolve the problem). Usually no instructions for that and often times I had to write the book... Believe me, there were many days I wished I could have "just read the instructions". 73, Carter K8VT Article: 319449 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: What are these tubes? Message-ID: <0nzDe.156638$go.124328@fed1read05> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:29:31 -0400 "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message . The rest I had never > seen before. Tungsol 866-A, mercury vapor rectifier, HV, transmitting type RCA 6336 ??? on this one.. GE JAN. 811 Triode RF power amp. used in Collins and Heath ham amps too. RCA 809 Transmitting tube . Eimac 3C24/24G.. Probably an odd WWII related TX tube. . Article: 319450 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bob Weiss Subject: Re: What are these tubes? References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:48:02 GMT Bruce Mercer wrote: > Tungsol 866-A Mercury-Vapor half wave rectifier. Very common in industrial gear and Ham transmitters. > RCA 6336 A husky dual triode used as a pass tube in regulated power supplies. Sort of a "6AS7/6080 on steroids" > GE JAN. 811, Common transmitting triode. > RCA 809 Slightly less common transmitting triode. > Eimac 3C24/24G VHF transmitting triode. 25W plate dissipation > G.E. VT 4-C Military version of the 211 triode. A really old "50 Watter" transmitter tube. NOS ones bring $100 or so on eBay. Some of the tube audio crowd build amps with these. Bob Weiss N2IXK Article: 319451 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: What happened to IN, OH, & PA? (was Re: 1930 Federal Census) Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 22:20:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <42D8FC57.31F9BC8C@BCPL.net> <1121570204.574543.133130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1121719177.548933.108590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121782151.181941.135040@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121795302.459300.199040@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1121861919.024713.72720@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> In <1121861919.024713.72720@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" writes: >At least give a link! Those from other and less endowed states will >think you are kidding... >http://areas.wildernet.com/pages/area.cfm?areaID=PASPAP&CU_ID=1 "Recommend to a Friend: Not Recommended Report: My mother literally broke down into tears. It was nothing like we expected. We were ready to turn around and come home at that point rather than stay out the rest of the week. There was nothing there except a bench, a sign and a deep hole in the ground. The diameter isn't very large it is just a deep hole in the ground." Oof. I remember stopping there with my dad when I was young. We sat on a picnic bench and had sandwiches. It's a nice little park. No dancing bears or synchronized water skiers passing by, just a bit of woods. And, no, the Pothole doesn't rival the Grand Canyon (there's also something called the Pennsylvania Grand Canyon, or somesuch), but it's worth a short stop. Sounds like the reviewer in the link wanted to make a week's vacation out of it. I wouldn't go that far. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 319452 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Raymond Koonce Subject: Re: What are these tubes? References: <0nzDe.156638$go.124328@fed1read05> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:29:31 -0500 Uncle Peter wrote: > "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message . The rest I had > never > >>seen before. > > > Tungsol 866-A, mercury vapor rectifier, HV, transmitting type Correct. I use these in a SE845 amp to provide 1.2KV B+. > > > RCA 6336 ??? on this one.. Typically used as series regulators in high voltage power supplies. I've heard of hi-fi amps built with them, but never heard the amps. Raymond > > GE JAN. 811 Triode RF power amp. used in Collins and Heath > ham amps too. > > > > RCA 809 Transmitting tube > . > Eimac 3C24/24G.. Probably an odd WWII related TX tube. . > > > Article: 319453 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike" References: <1121809095.831606.253660@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <97hDe.156471$go.95976@fed1read05> <5b94e$42ddb3b8$4232bd74$12527@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: AM transmitter Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:04:21 GMT dont care. I run a webserver on my IP, so everyone sees it anyway. :-) "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96999246BB92Cnoone@63.223.7.253... > "Mike" wrote in > news:qZiDe.19780$B52.2029@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com: > > > I didnt ask for a discussion about the FCC, i dont give a hoot about the > > FCC. I run a 120Watt linear amp on my CB, thats tells you how much I care > > about the FCC. > > > > X-Trace: tornado.ohiordc.rr.com 1121827798 65.27.139.235 (Tue, 19 Jul 2005 > 22:49:58 EDT) > > Careful....That's YOU and your IP the stupids at Road Runner expose on ever > post......(c; > > -- > Larry Article: 319454 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike" References: Subject: Re: AM transmitter Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:06:28 GMT yea, but they are all talk garbage, no music. "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns9699928D171F7noone@63.223.7.253... > "Mike" wrote in > news:k0jDe.19803$B52.354@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com: > > > Tube radios with solid state transmitters just dont mix. > > You can't hear AM broadcasters? They're all using Harris digital > transmitters, now, especially the 50KW boys.... > > -- > Larry Article: 319455 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike" References: <1121809095.831606.253660@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <97hDe.156471$go.95976@fed1read05> <5b94e$42ddb3b8$4232bd74$12527@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: AM transmitter Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:08:11 GMT np.. "-ex-" wrote in message news:c9fdd$42ddc1ed$4232bd74$17885@COQUI.NET... > Mike wrote: > > > OMG. guys. > > > > > > I didnt ask for a discussion about the FCC, > > Please accept my apologies for straying from the topic. > > -Bill Article: 319456 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike" References: Subject: Re: AM transmitter Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:11:13 GMT well, its only $8? wow. thats a far cry from my 120 dollars for my A+ computer cert. but hell, im just starting out, im working my way to get a car, I dont have a license for a car or own a car yet. ive only been able to get side jobs repairing TVs, and computers and saving money here and there. Once I get a car, I can go get that job, and get out on my own. But I havent gotten that far, and im 19. Gotta start somewhere. "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96999316537Dnoone@63.223.7.253... > "Mike" wrote in > news:a1jDe.19810$B52.18765@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com: > > > I dont have an amature license, nor can I afford one, nor can I afford > > the equipment to even use it. Hell, I dont think I could pass the test > > to even get one. > > > > You don't have $8? How can you afford antique radios? > > You can buy an old Yaesu at any hamfest for under $100, especially if it's > just broken. Dollar a watt...a good deal. > > Of course, this assumes you can afford the GAS to drive to the > fest....(d^:) > > -- > Larry Article: 319457 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike" References: <1121809095.831606.253660@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <97hDe.156471$go.95976@fed1read05> <5b94e$42ddb3b8$4232bd74$12527@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: AM transmitter Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:03:36 GMT I could use the 1050 range. "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:dbkgie$63p$1@news2.kornet.net... > > "Mike" wrote in message > news:qZiDe.19780$B52.2029@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com... > > OMG. guys. > > > > > > I didnt ask for a discussion about the FCC, i dont give a hoot about the > > FCC. I run a 120Watt linear amp on my CB, thats tells you how much I care > > about the FCC. > > > > I had a WPRDJ, and I modified with with an IRF510 output stage. I couldnt > > get no more than a watt, and the range sucked. Besides, I lost my > modulation > > transformer, I cant find it anyware. I cannot tell you how many times I > > replaced the CMOS ICs in that POS. they would simply "blow-up" after a > > while. Plus it sounded like crap. > > > > I want a tube one. thats all im asking for. I aint got any OSC coil to > make > > a tube one. got plenty of tubes, hell I'll use an 807 tube, dont have a > > schematic for it, but I had a 700VCT transformer to power it. > > > You can make something that will oscillate in the range you want by making > around 60 turns of 22AWG enameled wire around a 1/2" form. Tap the coil (by > bringing about 1" of wire off the coil and twisting it, before continuing > the windings) at about 10 turns. This will get you into the X-band using a > standard tuning cap. If you could use anything around 1050- 1080, I may have > a crystal you could use, and that would be much more stable than a VFO, and > much less noisy than a PLL. > > Cicuitry for a tube BCB transmitter is pretty simple, there are plenty of > schematics available for 'carrier current' transmitters (which can be modded > to run into a longwire if you REALLY want to go that route). I could draw > one up for either crystal or Hartley oscillator (VFO) (I've built enough of > them.. ) > > > Article: 319458 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1121863089.326800.225130@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121892511.509697.284490@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Those Coming to Kutztown Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:25:00 GMT Death, taxes, and hurricanes? -- Mike Schultz "Mike Koste" wrote in message news:1121892511.509697.284490@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Lou: Besides death and taxes, two other things you can always count on: > Kutztown every May and September. See you next year. > > Mike Koste > DVHRC > Article: 319459 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: AM transmitter References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 18:31:28 -0500 John Byrns wrote (re: MW5): > Might as well be digital with that switching modulator, everyone knows AM > radios prefer transmitters with a good old analog modulator. Nah, by the time it gets to the cathode of the PA - it's nice and pretty analog [again]... ;-) best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319460 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: AM transmitter Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 08:40:16 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1121809095.831606.253660@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <97hDe.156471$go.95976@fed1read05> <5b94e$42ddb3b8$4232bd74$12527@COQUI.NET> "Mike" wrote in message news:cLADe.23484$yC5.3384@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com... > I could use the 1050 range. How about a real e-mail??? Or e-mail me.. the addy is good. Article: 319461 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Those Coming to Kutztown Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 00:05:33 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1121863089.326800.225130@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121867568.958167.163270@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1121867568.958167.163270@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Mike Koste" writes: >Good post Peter! Don't forget that Adamstown, the Antiques Capital of >Pennsylvania, is less than an hour away. One of the beauties of >Kutztown is there's plenty to do at Renningers: outdoor flea market, >indoor antique mall, and the Farmer's Market. There's also a sizeable Renninger's at Adamstown, along with the Black Angus market. Here's a rundown of PA fleas: http://www.keysfleamarket.com/fleamarket/state/pennsylvania.htm -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 319462 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "robert.e.king" Subject: Help Identify a Radio Message-ID: <4GBDe.15545$HV1.3561@fed1read07> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:10:59 -0700 I am trying to identify a radio I had as a kid during WW2 with an eye to obtaining a similar model to restore. Its characteristics are as follows: Tombstone style, front speaker, brown/black wood. H=18in,W=10in,D=8in, all approx. All square corners. BCB+1SW band. Large-pin/pre-octal tubes. Top 2 inches hinged in back to expose phono table and p/u arm when lifted. Est. manuf. date: '32-'34. Probably one of the better-known brands available on the East Coast. I have looked thru many collections posted on the net but have never been able to find this set as I remember it. Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Please reply on-group. Bob Article: 319463 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: DSI industries? Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 00:16:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <11dmid75rforn05@corp.supernews.com> <11drd779q684s81@corp.supernews.com> In Larry writes: >"David Axt" wrote in >news:11drd779q684s81@corp.supernews.com: >> Thanks! I repair guitar amps so I have no idea what I need a frequency >> counter for. I guess that I could not pass up the price....free! >> >> -DA >> >None of us has ever needed a "reason" to bring something free home unless >it weighs over 500 pounds or is over 7' tall....(c; >Of course, this doesn't include live girls. >-- >Larry Larry, you bring home live girls over 7' tall and 500lbs. and you're in a whole mess of trouble no matter what. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 319464 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: FS: Grundig Satellit 700 memory chips Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:22:28 +0900 Message-ID: I just ran across a set of 3 memory chips for the Grundig Satellit 700. These things are going for $15-17 on ebay. Last time I posted some, I sold them for $5... I'll let these go for the same. Postage to the US would be about 60 cents for first class. -- Illigitimus non tatum carborundum (Don't let the bastards wear you down) Article: 319465 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: NTSC DVD's Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:23:33 +0900 Message-ID: Will those of you who ordered these please let me know when you receive them, and if they are in good shape. Thanks. -- Illigitimus non tatum carborundum (Don't let the bastards wear you down) Article: 319466 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: AM transmitter From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:16:58 -0400 jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) wrote in news:jbyrns-2007051759420001@216-80- 74-49.d.enteract.com: > Might as well be digital with that switching modulator, everyone knows AM > radios prefer transmitters with a good old analog modulator. > > > Regards, > > John Byrns > Wow...Your old radios must have some fantastic circuits to tell the difference. The big Harris' spectrum looks the same on my HP spectrum analyzer....unless they're playing with IBOC. -- Larry Article: 319467 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: AM transmitter From: Larry References: <1121884960.212565.51830@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:19:16 -0400 questforsquier@yahoo.com wrote in news:1121884960.212565.51830@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com: > Our local station bought a Harris Gates Five (used, mind you, but > digital) and after the BC5E was pulled out, all the CD based automation > yanked, etc. there was suddenly 1/3 of the building FREED UP and the > XMTR is about the size of a coat closet. They might miss the big red > tube in that old beast to keep the company, but I'll best they DON'T > miss the power bill ;-) The best benefits would be the audio quality > and they now have a lunchroom (!) > > For audio's sake, analog signals are the way to go. For transmission of > ANALOG SIGNALS, PDM (digital) is so much nicer (and way more efficient > too)! > > It probably costs less to run a Harris DX50 than it does some of the old 5KW beasts still on the air....power wise. We're gonna miss those cooling ponds...(c; -- Larry Article: 319468 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42DEF754.8000007@ix.netcom.com> From: David Stinson Subject: Finally- An Efficient Way to Store Tubes Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:16:26 GMT Well, it only took me forever to figure it out, and I'm probably not the first to do this, but I thought I'd pass it on: I can't stand boxes and boxes full of tubes everywhere, most of which I will never use. I haven't the space for them. And I have a moral problem with waste and hording. So I hit upon an idea that's worked splendidly: I got some boxes- most about the size of a shoe box, which has proven to be sufficient- and marked each with the name of a radio type which I collect- RAK/L, RBH/L, ARC-5, BC-348-R/-P/-Q, ARB, ATB, RCA Light Aircraft etc. Under the name, I put a list of the tubes used in that radio. In each box will go six to ten of those types. Voila! Instant tube stock for repairs; just grab the appropriate box. And I have "project boxes," in which go the tubes and parts for specific, pending homebrew projects (i.e. "1928 MOPA Xmtr), and a couple for "specials," like old battery or sub-mini tubes. When I'm finished, all the "left-over" tubes will be either sold or given away. Should I later need a tube I'd given away or sold, the few bucks it costs are more than worth it; no more wasted material, wasted space and needless aggravation. I only wish I'd been smart enough to do this sooner. Regards, David S. Article: 319469 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: AM transmitter From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:38:42 -0400 "Mike" wrote in news:UNADe.23486$yC5.2628@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com: > yea, but they are all talk garbage, no music. > Unfortunately, except for WSM and a couple of others I can hear in Charleston, SC, you are quite correct. WTMZ 910 was playing some EZ Listening but it is now back, once again, to sports talk. -- Larry Article: 319470 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: (1000) 78rpm shellac records-Ebay-$10 <--HELP KILL OFF A SPAMMER! Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:04:38 -0700 Message-ID: <1h0ud1hfi6g1t7o9tpr7tqk6ju6hm5nhm3@4ax.com> References: <1121862590.570086.243820@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 20 Jul 2005 05:29:50 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: On 20 Jul 2005 05:29:50 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ This is the real Bob Scarborough of Lancsater, CA, the real DeserTBoB. The OP who originally posted this spam is: Charlie Nudo 160 Bear Run Dr Drums, PA 18222 thenudofamily@epix.net ...who recently had his eBay account, 66fourdoor, temporarily suspended for spamming. While it was suspended, he posted this auction under a pseudonym name, "quad-dubber," a violation of eBay's Terms of Service. Now that his account is back up, he's at it again, mainly because his mental illness demands that he show everyone he's above rules and regulations. He shows up under a variety of different names, such as CAINE, DesertBob Jr., UNIVERSAL MIND, trippingtoo8track, James F., and a rash of others trying to hide his identity. As if for retribution, he's also using my name, user name and location as a user name, as if that will get MY ISP to shut ME down for spamming. Don't fall for it; all the info you need is in the message header below. Nudo's home ISP is epix.net. Email addresses he uses are as follows (parsed to get around Google's ridiculous email filtering algorithm): trippin28track "at" yahoo.com trippingtoo8track "at" yahoo.com dynobot "at" hotmail.com winchester1886 "at" hotmail.com coltblackpowder "at" hotmail.com thenudofamily "at" epix.net You might want to try sending a spam complaint to Epix clicking this link: abuse@epix.net ...including all the following: ________________ Path: spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!lotsanews.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!postnews.google.com!g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "CAINE" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.marketplace Subject: (1000) 78rpm shellac records-Ebay-$10 Date: 20 Jul 2005 05:29:50 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 6 Message-ID: <1121862590.570086.243820@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.222.232.96 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1121862594 32524 127.0.0.1 (20 Jul 2005 12:29:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:29:54 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: G2/0.2 Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=216.222.232.96; posting-account=cbVkxwsAAAACgoY6vWovejXWANGy2-eJ Xref: spln rec.antiques.marketplace:194829 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4749906786 buy it now for $250 25 cents per disk ! ____________________ As you can see, the posting host is epix.net, and they'd probably like to shut off another spammer. Also, it'd be nice to cc a copy to group-abuse@google.com , but they don't seem to care very much. A complaint to eBay would be good, as it would shut down his 66fourdoor account probably permanently. You can access eBay's complaint form by clicking the "security" link at the bottom of any auction page and then sending them a complaint about unwanted spam being sent to your newsgroup. Charlie Nudo is a spammer, confirmed petty criminal, con artist and fraudster. Please do not participate in his fraud auctions as it keeps him spamming and selling his crap on eBay and Usenet. Article: 319471 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Burr" References: Subject: Re: Grundig Satellit 700 memory chips Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 02:49:16 GMT Week away from heading west. You find any parts for my old radio Burr "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:dbmpqf$d3$1@news2.kornet.net... >I just ran across a set of 3 memory chips for the Grundig Satellit 700. > These things are going for $15-17 on ebay. Last time I posted some, I > sold > them for $5... I'll let these go for the same. Postage to the US would be > about 60 cents for first class. > > -- > Illigitimus non tatum carborundum > > (Don't let the bastards wear you down) > > Article: 319472 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in PHX" References: <7RRCe.28177$aA5.26004@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1121719077.875715.68480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ballast Tubes Need Homes Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 19:58:38 -0700 plus, they shutdown the ordering window at the front of the office!!!! No more running out at lunch to test tubes and buy a couple and the local antique radio club, no longer uses the AES parking lot for the twice a year radio fest... Those two things should tell you a little something..... Bob in phx (3.4 miles away from AES) wrote in message news:1121719077.875715.68480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > There should be a fine for people who point to AES for everything. ;-) > Article: 319473 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: (1000) 78rpm shellac records-Ebay-$10 From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1121862277.418104.252380@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121894556.674065.313710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:00:23 GMT In article <1121894556.674065.313710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, chucknoodles@hotmail.com says... > > > >Why would an honest seller need to do that? Because he spams every day >and then stalks those who complain. He'll go as far as calling a >persons place of employmnet to harrass them. He's a nut case. > Well I guess I am still having a problem figuring out just who the Spammer Is?.... Looks to me like..... #1.. the seller has a FleaBay rating of 1000 .... he has two negatives in that number... and a gross number of 1198 ... so nearly 200 people have purchased more than one item from him... and out of the 1000 different ones.... he pissed off two people that thought they got screwed.... Bet that at least one of those is this guy who is complaining here in the newsgroup about the seller!... Now if this guy did all the stuff that you are saying he did... I am sure that more than 2 people would have filed a negative complaint with Flea Bay.... Maybe he doesn't explain his goods just like you would like him to do.... but 1000 to 2 .... tells me that he must be doing something right... Seems that everytime the guy posts an auction to this group that YOU SHOW UP AND BITCH about him... Sorta like you are the one doing the nagging!... AND THE SPAMMER IS.... #1... questforsquier@yahoo.com #2... "Spam Report" notice in both of the above posts from this individual... that he has NO NAME .... I THINK THAT YOU ARE THE NUTCASE... John k9uwa Article: 319474 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Rauland/(Zenith?) kit TV? References: <2uydnZIKfdgAcEPfRVn-gQ@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 22:00:57 -0500 Phil Nelson wrote: > Could Rauland be a manufacturer that supplied stuff to other companies? Yeah, like CRTs... Rauland was Zenith's CRT supplier (and IIRC Zenith had more than a "casual" interest in Rauland). best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319475 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: DSI industries? From: Larry References: <11dmid75rforn05@corp.supernews.com> <11drd779q684s81@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:07:02 -0400 Tim Mullen wrote in news:dbmphj$k0m$2@reader2.panix.com: > Larry, you bring home live girls over 7' tall and 500lbs. and you're > in a whole mess of trouble no matter what. :) > Oops...misunderstanding.... I meant ANY live girls, especially for married individuals....gross tonnage, draft and length not important. Single individuals, like myself, need do a self-evaluation between cost-of- upkeep vs. benefits received. Leased? Rented? Owned? Borrowed? Found abandoned?...(c; -- Larry Article: 319476 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1121862277.418104.252380@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7CrDe.876$Uk3.97@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: (1000) 78rpm shellac records-Ebay-$10 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:11:40 GMT "David Stinson" wrote in message news:7CrDe.876$Uk3.97@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... > UNIVERSAL MIND wrote: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4749906786 >> >> buy it now for $250 >> >> 25 cents per disk ! >> > > Excuse me while I whine about these being too far away... > > (whine whine whine....) > > I have a dear friend who's a collector. How I'd > love to drive up at his house and say "Oh, Jon! > Can you come out here? I've got something for you...." Scranton, Pa is only 1 hour from me. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 319477 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: what are old theater amps being used for? From: Larry References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 23:13:09 -0400 "Paul P" wrote in news:jVwDe.16740$5N3.1043@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net: > DJ's ego Boy, now, THERE's a hot topic! I run my computerized DJ operation as a "music machine". I never was much of a radio announcer when I was in broadcasting, so am not really impressed with the sound of my own voice.....er, ah....like some DJs I know. I have an interesting customer base that appreciates NOT hearing from me...or anyone else...during the playback. The computer just goes on and on...with or without me...(c; What I can't stand is for the music to have "dead air". I used to work for a station that treated dead air as an original sin... -- Larry Article: 319478 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <2uydnZIKfdgAcEPfRVn-gQ@giganews.com> Subject: Re: Rauland/(Zenith?) kit TV? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:17:29 GMT "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:2uydnZIKfdgAcEPfRVn-gQ@giganews.com... > > I'm trying to think of any company other than Heathkit that might > have been selling kit TVs in the 1960s. > NRI CONAR? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6185737052 jim menning Article: 319479 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42DF16E2.19F673EF@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: (1000) 78rpm shellac records-Ebay-$10 <--HELP KILL OFF A SPAMMER! References: <1121862590.570086.243820@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1h0ud1hfi6g1t7o9tpr7tqk6ju6hm5nhm3@4ax.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:31:01 GMT DeserTBoB wrote: > > On 20 Jul 2005 05:29:50 -0700, "CAINE" > wrote: > > On 20 Jul 2005 05:29:50 -0700, "CAINE" > wrote: > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ > > This is the real Bob Scarborough of Lancsater, CA, the real DeserTBoB. > The OP who originally posted this spam is: > > Charlie Nudo > 160 Bear Run Dr > Drums, PA 18222 > thenudofamily@epix.net > > ...who recently had his eBay account, 66fourdoor, temporarily > suspended for spamming. While it was suspended, he posted this > auction under a pseudonym name, "quad-dubber," a violation of eBay's > Terms of Service. Now that his account is back up, he's at it again, > mainly because his mental illness demands that he show everyone he's > above rules and regulations. He shows up under a variety of different > names, such as CAINE, DesertBob Jr., UNIVERSAL MIND, > trippingtoo8track, James F., and a rash of others trying to hide his > identity. As if for retribution, he's also using my name, user name > and location as a user name, as if that will get MY ISP to shut ME > down for spamming. Don't fall for it; all the info you need is in the > message header below. > > Nudo's home ISP is epix.net. Email addresses he uses are as follows > (parsed to get around Google's ridiculous email filtering algorithm): > > trippin28track "at" yahoo.com > trippingtoo8track "at" yahoo.com > dynobot "at" hotmail.com > winchester1886 "at" hotmail.com > coltblackpowder "at" hotmail.com > thenudofamily "at" epix.net > > You might want to try sending a spam complaint to Epix clicking this > link: > > abuse@epix.net > > ...including all the following: > > ________________ > > Path: > spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!lotsanews.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!postnews.google.com!g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail > From: "CAINE" > Newsgroups: rec.antiques.marketplace > Subject: (1000) 78rpm shellac records-Ebay-$10 > Date: 20 Jul 2005 05:29:50 -0700 > Organization: http://groups.google.com > Lines: 6 > Message-ID: <1121862590.570086.243820@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> > NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.222.232.96 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > X-Trace: posting.google.com 1121862594 32524 127.0.0.1 (20 Jul 2005 > 12:29:54 GMT) > X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com > NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 12:29:54 +0000 (UTC) > User-Agent: G2/0.2 > Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com > Injection-Info: g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; > posting-host=216.222.232.96; > posting-account=cbVkxwsAAAACgoY6vWovejXWANGy2-eJ > Xref: spln rec.antiques.marketplace:194829 > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4749906786 > > buy it now for $250 > > 25 cents per disk ! > > ____________________ > > As you can see, the posting host is epix.net, and they'd probably like > to shut off another spammer. Also, it'd be nice to cc a copy to > group-abuse@google.com , but they don't seem to care very much. A > complaint to eBay would be good, as it would shut down his 66fourdoor > account probably permanently. You can access eBay's complaint form by > clicking the "security" link at the bottom of any auction page and > then sending them a complaint about unwanted spam being sent to your > newsgroup. > > Charlie Nudo is a spammer, confirmed petty criminal, con artist and > fraudster. Please do not participate in his fraud auctions as it > keeps him spamming and selling his crap on eBay and Usenet. I might as well kill file you too. I'm tired of both of you. -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 319480 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: (1000) 78rpm shellac records-Ebay-$10 References: <1121862277.418104.252380@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121894556.674065.313710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121915959.993664.222820@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:34:37 GMT Spam Report wrote: ( a lot of **** ) Actual definition of "Spam:" Unsolicited commercial EMAIL. Certain people's definition of "Spam:" Any post he doesn't personally like and which give him something about which to bitch and feel "important" by acting like a self-righteous net-nanny. Article: 319481 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "robert.e.king" References: <4GBDe.15545$HV1.3561@fed1read07> <6Y-dnUB6qNXvdkPfRVn-sQ@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Help Identify a Radio Message-ID: Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 20:43:24 -0700 Mark, Thanks for taking a shot at this. My recollection is that the dial was small and ovalish, set behind plastic in the lower center of the cabinet and indirectly driven. I think the knobs were wood and flat. The distinguishing feature of the cabinet was its square corners, it was a true tabletop "box". The turntable was smallish as dictated by the size of the cabinet , single speed, and the pickup was magnetic in a die-cast housing and arm. The tubes were of modern type (for the '30s) but not octal or loktal. Some tubes had external shields and grid caps. No built-in antenna was provided. I am surprised that with all the searching of antique radio web sites, swap meet photos, e-bay and a.b.p.r I have not seen a radio like this. I welcome any other questions or suggestions. Bob "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:6Y-dnUB6qNXvdkPfRVn-sQ@comcast.com... > Radio phono combos were not popular until 1939 or so. If the set had large > pin tubes, it might have been a lesser brand, like Detrola or Emerson, who > tended to use older types occasionally. RCA did a real tombstone type with > phono on top, maybe 1937, but it would have been octal tubes by then. > > Can you give any more clues like the color and shape of dial? How many > knobs and were they wood or bakelite (brown or black)??? > > Mark Oppat > > > "robert.e.king" wrote in message > news:4GBDe.15545$HV1.3561@fed1read07... > > I am trying to identify a radio I had as a kid during WW2 with an eye to > > obtaining a similar model to restore. Its characteristics are as follows: > > > > Tombstone style, front speaker, brown/black wood. > > H=18in,W=10in,D=8in, all approx. > > All square corners. > > BCB+1SW band. > > Large-pin/pre-octal tubes. > > Top 2 inches hinged in back to expose phono table and p/u arm when lifted. > > Est. manuf. date: '32-'34. > > Probably one of the better-known brands available on the East Coast. > > > > I have looked thru many collections posted on the net but have never been > > able to find this set as I remember it. > > > > Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > > Please reply on-group. > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > Article: 319482 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42DF17FC.4A840FB4@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Rauland/(Zenith?) kit TV? References: <2uydnZIKfdgAcEPfRVn-gQ@giganews.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 03:35:44 GMT Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote: > > Phil Nelson wrote: > > > Could Rauland be a manufacturer that supplied stuff to other companies? > > Yeah, like CRTs... Rauland was Zenith's CRT supplier (and IIRC Zenith > had more than a "casual" interest in Rauland). > > best regards... > -- > randy guttery They also made PA equipment. I have a crude rack mount mixer that runs off an external 24 VDC power supply. I think it came from one of their low end school intercoms. It was built with those crappy electrolytics that were glued into molded plastic cases. It was my understanding the Zenith owned 100% of Rauland, at least during the '70s. -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Fri Jul 22 11:53:22 EDT 2005 Article: 319483 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: "When I plugged this in I did feel a vibration..." Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:20:33 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <11du8jc5b70d4bf@corp.supernews.com> Reply-To: "David Axt" References: <1121828496.856675.179560@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 11 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.cs.wisc.edu!news.uchicago.edu!newsread.com!news-xfer.newsread.com!newspeer.tds.net!news-out.news.tds.net!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319483 "twomuttheads" wrote in message news:1121828496.856675.179560@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=1454956 > Damn it! I told you to stop sitting naked on top of the radio! -DA From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Fri Jul 22 11:53:22 EDT 2005 Article: 319484 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Vintage stereo info? Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 21:37:00 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <11du9i1bb2nbm31@corp.supernews.com> Reply-To: "David Axt" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 9 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319484 I am interested in learning about stereos from the 60s/70s/80s. I would like to know what brands/models are good and which ones to avoid. Where can I learn about this information? Thanks! David Article: 319485 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Grundig Satellit 700 memory chips Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:37:22 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Burr" wrote in message news:M2EDe.23590$IJ1.17298@trnddc02... > Week away from heading west. > You find any parts for my old radio > > Burr Not yet.. :( Have never gotten an e-mail back from my German source. I may have to TRY to go through ACT Electronics. Article: 319486 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 01:51:18 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: (1000) 78rpm shellac records-Ebay-$10 References: <1121862277.418104.252380@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121894556.674065.313710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > In article <1121894556.674065.313710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > chucknoodles@hotmail.com says... > >> >> >>Why would an honest seller need to do that? Because he spams every day >>and then stalks those who complain. He'll go as far as calling a >>persons place of employmnet to harrass them. He's a nut case. >> > > > Well I guess I am still having a problem figuring out just who the > Spammer Is?.... It appears I have only a couple of these addresses in the kill file since the last outbreak of cross-posted playground character assasination by the same players. I'll add the rest. I wish I could simply kill all this cross-posted crap. Anybody know how to manage that with Mozilla 1.7? -Bill Article: 319487 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: 12V plate tubes... many types! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:16:12 GMT I'm not sure if there were any 1956 radios with this arrangement, but in 1957 these "hybrid" radios were out in droves. The 12 volt tubes and germanium power transistors enabled the radio to run entirely on 12 volts, thus eliminating the pesky vibrator and expensive power transformer. Transistors were noisy, so they made poor devices for small signal -- so the tubes were used for RF. However the 57 Cadillac Eldorado had a fully transistorized radio (hand wired chassis) that actually wasn't half bad. I think some of the early 60's hybrid radios were some of the best AM radios ever made in terms of reception. As for that Delco DS-501 big round germanium transistor, those were used from 1957, well into the 70's. "Michael Black" wrote in message news:dbm4p0$gjc$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... > > robert casey (wa2ise@ix.netcom.com) writes: >>> >>> I had NO idea there were that many designed for 12V plate (basically, >>> auto) >>> use! Why so many??? >> >> I suspect that it was because of several tube manufacturers >> developing at the same time similar but not identical new >> tubes. Like in the chip industry each wanted to hit the >> market fast and be first. Each maker wanting to be the >> one who makes the "standard" set of tubes that every radio >> maker would use. > > I suspect they didn't know that things were about to change. > > There was a move to 12v tubes, and even though transistors were > around nobody anticipated that they'd be taking over in a few years. > In the mid-fifties transistors were still expensive, didn't have much > in the way of high frequency capability, and they were still so new > that few knew how to use them properly. So the tube manufacturers went on > as they'd been doing. If you expect demand, you put money into > development. The Nuvistor came along at about the same time, and it had > the > advantage of size, besides being better in some applications. There was > even a 12V Nuvistor or two. > > But instead of a long life of 12V tubes, transistors became good > a lot faster, including the addition of the FET. ONce they could > handle higher frequencies, and do it well, they did a better job > of operating off 12V than the 12V tubes, so the things were retired > after a relatively short life. A small device that used little > current versus large devices that still required quite a bit of > current for the filament alone? A fairly easy choice once the transistors > could do what was needed. > > Had things gone differently, and transistors didn't work out (like > that famous QST article that said they'd not be much use to hams), > the development done on 12V tubes would have been warranted, and > their design life time would have been longer. > > Michael > Article: 319488 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Rauland/(Zenith?) kit TV? References: <2uydnZIKfdgAcEPfRVn-gQ@giganews.com> <1121917104.928980.154990@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1121944164.103941.188040@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:53:30 GMT electron@grapevine.net wrote: > The set worked a lot longer than the marriage did. In 1975 I built an HW-101 transceiver and the accessories that went with it. I was married to my first wife at the time. 30 years later, I'm on my third marriage. I still have the Heathkit stuff. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319489 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "DumpsterDiver" References: <9uwDe.2014$6f.1082@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: What are these tubes? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 13:02:29 GMT The QRS Red Top is almost for sure the equivalent of an 01-A. It's certainly worth more than $10. 71-A's with good filaments are also worth more than $10 each. DD ============================================================================ =============================== "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:MZCdnQhyscsUWUPfRVn-gA@sigecom.net... > > "Phil Nelson" wrote in message > news:cpidnVA5zqokN0PfRVn-1w@giganews.com... > >> Be aware that such tubes may have open filaments, and > >> would be useless for anything other than a non functioning > >> display item. > > > > Don't leave home without your pocket multimeter :-) > > > > Phil > > > > Thanks for the answers and yes, I had already gone back with my multimeter. > :-) They wouldn't come down on any of the prices so I just bought the GE > VT-4-C and the unknown number QRS redtop. Both filaments were good. Don't > know how to test the redtop because I don't know what it is, no number left > on it.....bought it mainly for display because I don't have one and the V-T4 > doesn't fit in any socket in my tester.....cool to look at though. > > Re: Jeff's post. I have > a Jackson 648 but as I said...there is no socket that will accept the tube. > What kind of tube is a V-T-4C? > > Bruce > > Article: 319490 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: SuperCharged10@webtv.net (Mail List) Subject: Re: resilvering a blue mirror Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:31:00 -0400 Message-ID: <22784-42DFA394-143@storefull-3272.bay.webtv.net> References: Thanks, Always interested in other points of view. www.superchargedband.com Article: 319491 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Good morning all Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 09:25:01 -0600 Message-ID: Just came out to the shop...getting ready to go to work on that Theremin project after I finish checking email...etc...and thought I'd just say hi and top of the morning to everyone in the group. Let's see how much progress I get done today :) Ben Article: 319492 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Good morning all Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 16:01:36 GMT "Benjamaniac" wrote in message news:dboeof$knf$1@news3.infoave.net... > Just came out to the shop...getting ready to go to work on that > Theremin project after I finish checking email...etc...and thought > I'd just say hi and top of the morning to everyone in the group. > Let's see how much progress I get done today :) > Ben > Mornin' Ben. Hope you've got air conditioning in the shop. Looks like another hot week out in Montana. Dripping salty sweat may cause shorts! jim menning Article: 319493 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: AM transmitter References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:00:57 -0500 John Byrns wrote: > That's what they said about CDs too. yeah - but they lied. CD's running at 44.1Khz - the PDM in an MW5 nearly doubles that at around 70khz... more nearly like today's quality 96Khz sample stuff... than "strident" "screechy" "brittle" nasty ol' CDs... ;-) best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 319494 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: Good morning all Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 12:29:04 -0600 Message-ID: References: "jim menning" wrote in message news:AFPDe.68$dR5.1@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Benjamaniac" wrote in message > news:dboeof$knf$1@news3.infoave.net... >> Just came out to the shop...getting ready to go to work on that >> Theremin project after I finish checking email...etc...and thought I'd >> just say hi and top of the morning to everyone in the group. Let's see >> how much progress I get done today :) >> Ben >> > > Mornin' Ben. > > Hope you've got air conditioning in the shop. Looks like another hot week > out in Montana. Dripping salty sweat may cause shorts! > > jim menning > > > Jim, Sure do have air in here now...just installed it last week. The temp here is over 100 now...and it's only 12:30PM. Couldn't handle it in here anymore without the air. Ben Article: 319495 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jhill" Subject: Efficient way to sort tubes by number?? Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 14:45:12 -0500 Message-ID: I have boxes of loose tubes I hardly ever use simply because it takes too much time to go thru them looking for the right one. This winter, while sitting in front of the TV, I want to sort them by number and put them into white boxes then into a rack. One day I presorted them by general type -- loctals, octals, miniatures etc, into separate bins. What is an efficient way to further sort them by number? Article: 319496 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Radio plays music, tv, and is a recorder too! Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 06:31:19 +0900 Message-ID: References: <7m30e1pk2lnn0ikir898t147adt6jnvcon@4ax.com> "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:7m30e1pk2lnn0ikir898t147adt6jnvcon@4ax.com... > I think they misinterpreted the label. > > eBay item # 6547006144 Nope, label is fine. Says it plays radio or television and records (discs). Looks like a 1/4" phone plug for input there, rather than the usual RCA jack.. could just be a busted jack, though. From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Fri Jul 22 11:53:25 EDT 2005 Article: 319497 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Radio plays music, tv, and is a recorder too! References: <7m30e1pk2lnn0ikir898t147adt6jnvcon@4ax.com> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 12 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 21:35:12 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1121981712 66.65.49.245 (Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:35:12 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:35:12 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319497 In article , Brenda Ann wrote: > Nope, label is fine. Says it plays radio or television and records (discs). That's why he said someone "misinterpreted" the label. As in mis-read. And my money's on the busted RCA jack (missing that insulator ring?). Most of the quarter-inch earplug jacks I've seen, that stick out like that, have a nut holding them in place. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Fri Jul 22 11:53:25 EDT 2005 Article: 319498 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Rauland/(Zenith?) kit TV? References: <2uydnZIKfdgAcEPfRVn-gQ@giganews.com> <1121917104.928980.154990@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4JudnZMox47XRELfRVn-iw@comcast.com> <1121971379.507825.181040@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 17 Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 21:37:35 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1121981855 66.65.49.245 (Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:37:35 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:37:35 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wns13feed!worldnet.att.net!199.45.49.37!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319498 In article , Bill Cohn wrote: > In the early 1970s Goldstar was a contract manufacturer in Korea that > made most of Zenith's small radios. Talk about the child eating the > parent!!!! So THAT'S who made my "Circle of Sound" clock radio, huh? :) I wonder if Goldstar (aren't they really called Lucky Goldstar) also had manufacturing facilities in Hong Kong. Another 1970s era Zenith clock radio I have (AM only with bottom firing speaker) says "Made in Hong Kong" on the press-board back panel. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 319499 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 18:29:13 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Rauland/(Zenith?) kit TV? References: <2uydnZIKfdgAcEPfRVn-gQ@giganews.com> <1121917104.928980.154990@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4JudnZMox47XRELfRVn-iw@comcast.com> <1121971379.507825.181040@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <7fee3$42e021be$4232bda0$27663@COQUI.NET> Stephanie Weil wrote: > > I wonder if Goldstar (aren't they really called Lucky Goldstar) also had > manufacturing facilities in Hong Kong. Goldstar Electronics (established 1958) merged with Lucky Chemical Company (same owners, established 1947) somewhere around the mid-90s. It (LG Group) is the 4th largest family-owned business in the world. Wal-mart, Ford and Samsung are 1, 2 and 3. Trivia for the day :) -Bill Article: 319500 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "robert.e.king" References: <4GBDe.15545$HV1.3561@fed1read07> <6Y-dnUB6qNXvdkPfRVn-sQ@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Help Identify a Radio Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:40:24 -0700 Mark, Unfortunately I can't visualize the dial that well. I don't think the radio was home-brewed, it was just too well constructed and finished for a one-off specimen. It pretty much had the look and feel of a production item. As I recall, the tubes were 6 volt types and there was no resistor in the line cord which probably means that it was not AC-DC. The phono section may have been designed for playing kids records, rather than for serious adult use. Thanks again for you thoughts. Bob "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:v5WdnexzDd6DW0LfRVn-ig@comcast.com... > Bob, > Methinks this could have been some homebrew??? > > Since the radio/phonos came in around 1939, octals and loctals were > current then. Many radio hobbiest magazines would have then jumped on that > idea and published plans for taking your old radio and building a very > simple box cabinet (re: the simple square corner type, no rounded corners) > and adding a turntable to it. > This could also have been done by a local shop, to get rid of older > chassis. > > So, first look for the DIAL of the radio when you search. Look at just > radios, not combos. This would give you a clue as to the radio. I suspect > it was a very cheap AC-DC set, no transformer, and there were hundreds of > those in 1934-1937, so it might be very hard to narrow it down. > > A few years later, by 1940, most of the minor players were gone... leaving > maybe only 30 radio makers, still a fair number to pick from! > > Mark Oppat > > > "robert.e.king" wrote in message > news:nNEDe.15586$HV1.13936@fed1read07... > > Mark, > > > > Thanks for taking a shot at this. My recollection is that the dial was > small > > and ovalish, set behind plastic in the lower center of the cabinet and > > indirectly driven. I think the knobs were wood and flat. The > distinguishing > > feature of the cabinet was its square corners, it was a true tabletop > "box". > > > > The turntable was smallish as dictated by the size of the cabinet , single > > speed, and the pickup was magnetic in a die-cast housing and arm. > > > > The tubes were of modern type (for the '30s) but not octal or loktal. Some > > tubes had external shields and grid caps. No built-in antenna was > provided. > > > > I am surprised that with all the searching of antique radio web sites, > swap > > meet photos, e-bay and a.b.p.r I have not seen a radio like this. > > > > I welcome any other questions or suggestions. > > > > Bob > > > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > > news:6Y-dnUB6qNXvdkPfRVn-sQ@comcast.com... > > > Radio phono combos were not popular until 1939 or so. If the set had > > large > > > pin tubes, it might have been a lesser brand, like Detrola or Emerson, > > who > > > tended to use older types occasionally. RCA did a real tombstone type > > with > > > phono on top, maybe 1937, but it would have been octal tubes by then. > > > > > > Can you give any more clues like the color and shape of dial? How many > > > knobs and were they wood or bakelite (brown or black)??? > > > > > > Mark Oppat > > > > > > > > > "robert.e.king" wrote in message > > > news:4GBDe.15545$HV1.3561@fed1read07... > > > > I am trying to identify a radio I had as a kid during WW2 with an eye > to > > > > obtaining a similar model to restore. Its characteristics are as > > follows: > > > > > > > > Tombstone style, front speaker, brown/black wood. > > > > H=18in,W=10in,D=8in, all approx. > > > > All square corners. > > > > BCB+1SW band. > > > > Large-pin/pre-octal tubes. > > > > Top 2 inches hinged in back to expose phono table and p/u arm when > > lifted. > > > > Est. manuf. date: '32-'34. > > > > Probably one of the better-known brands available on the East Coast. > > > > > > > > I have looked thru many collections posted on the net but have never > > been > > > > able to find this set as I remember it. > > > > > > > > Any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. > > > > > > > > Please reply on-group. > > > > > > > > Bob > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Article: 319501 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Radio plays music, tv, and is a recorder too! Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 07:41:43 +0900 Message-ID: References: <7m30e1pk2lnn0ikir898t147adt6jnvcon@4ax.com> "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:slrnde05r3.7p2.stephanie@home3.gordsven.com... > In article , Brenda Ann wrote: > > Nope, label is fine. Says it plays radio or television and records (discs). > > That's why he said someone "misinterpreted" the label. As in mis-read. > > And my money's on the busted RCA jack (missing that insulator ring?). > Most of the quarter-inch earplug jacks I've seen, that stick out like > that, have a nut holding them in place. See, now that's what I get for trying to read at 6:30 in the morning... in my toasted and dyslexic state I read it as 'misprinted'... :) Article: 319502 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42E03C33.8080100@worldnet.att.net> From: Al Schapira Subject: Any Freed-Eisemann aficionados out there? Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 00:19:12 GMT Hello, Freed-Eisemann aficionados: The radio in question is a 1924 Freed-Eisemann model FE-15, No. 265-J that I found in an "antique" store while I was on vacation. It has no cabinet, and had been sitting in a cardboard box since 1964 according to the newspapers it was half packed with. Here are some views: http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/FE-15/FE15front.jpg http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/FE-15/FE15top.jpg http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/FE-15/FE15bottom.jpg http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/FE-15/FE15back.jpg The set cleaned up beautifully, including the black bakelite front panel, but the engravings on the panel and knobs have lost their white(?) filler. Do you know what color were the original engravings on the panel and knobs? Bright white? Off white/almond? Gold? (The front panel engravings seem to have a trace of gold flecks left, but I don't know if this was original.) Only one of the knobs is an original F-E knob. http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/FE-15/FE15knob1.jpg http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/FE-15/FE15knob2.jpg Anyone have two of these to spare? There is an original Freed-Eisemann assembly tag #56228 underneath one tube socket, and most of the components, including a 2 Megohm "fuse-type" grid-leak resistor, are labeled or engraved Freed-Eisemann. http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/FE-15/FE15res.jpg http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/FE-15/FE15tag.jpg I located a schematic on Nostalgia Air (thanks!) but I have no other info about this or similar sets. I've never worked on a TRF set or a battery set before, so I have lots of questions that I hope will be answered by the collective wisdom of this forum. What I know: It has 5 UV-201-A silvered globe short-pin bayonet bakelite base tubes. 4 are engraved Radiotron, one is unmarked except for an "S" inside a square inside a diamond on the bottom of the base. http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/FE-15/Radiotron-UV201A.jpg http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/FE-15/S-UV201A.jpg Three of the tubes show solid filament continuity, (resistance about 3 Ohms, cold, of course) and two show intermittent filament continuity because the glass rotates slightly with respect to the tube base. Is it possible to remove the base by unsoldering the pins to repair the intermittent contacts? What is recommended to re-glue the glass to the base if the repair is successful? The schematic does not indicate the C-voltage. The B+ is 90V and 22 1/2 V. I assume the A-supply would be 5 or 6 volts. What should the C-supply be? The schematic shows the output jack in series with B+ in a plate circuit. Its a standard 1/4" phone jack. What is supposed to be plugged into the output jack? High impedance headphones? An output transformer primary for a speaker? There are two interstage (audio) transformers, labeled "standard 3:1", and "standard 5:1" on the schematic, but they appear to have at least one open winding. Anything special about these? Are replacements available? (I have repaired transformers before, but these appear rather fragile.) http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/FE-15/FE15Xfrmr1.jpg http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/FE-15/FE15Xfrmr2.jpg http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/pix/FE-15/FE15Xfrmr3.jpg Can anyone tell me the dimensions or other details of the original cabinet? Based on what I know now, I doubt that this set will ever play again, but it sure is pretty. What do you think? I would appreciate any and all information or references about this set and would be happy to provide additional pictures. Thanks. -Al Schapira Article: 319503 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: 12V plate tubes... many types! References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 00:50:01 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > I'm not sure if there were any 1956 radios with this arrangement, but in > 1957 these "hybrid" radios were out in droves. The 12 volt tubes and > germanium power transistors enabled the radio to run entirely on 12 volts, One such radio I have had a dead germanium power transistor in a TO3 case. I was able to use a silicon replacement and the bias adjust had enough range to allow the silicon to work. Article: 319504 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Efficient way to sort tubes by number?? References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 00:59:35 GMT Heh, so I'm not the only one that doesn't buy all new boxes for them and line them up like inventory in a store. ;-) On my first pass, I did the same thing. 4-5 pin tubes, loctal, octal, 7-pin miniature and 9-pin miniature. When that got out of hand, I sub divided them by the first letter(s). 6A through 6E etc. Additionalyl, if I have a bunch of the same type, I put all of them into a baggie. For example, I have a pile of 6AV6. Jeff jhill wrote: > I have boxes of loose tubes I hardly ever use simply because it takes too > much time to go thru them looking for the right one. This winter, while > sitting in front of the TV, I want to sort them by number and put them into > white boxes then into a rack. One day I presorted them by general type -- > loctals, octals, miniatures etc, into separate bins. What is an efficient > way to further sort them by number? > > -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319505 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Good morning all References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 01:02:41 GMT Benjamaniac wrote: > Sure do have air in here now...just installed it last week. The > temp here is over 100 now...and it's only 12:30PM. Couldn't handle it in > here anymore without the air. Air conditioning doesn't help out here in southern california. Thanks in part to the efforts of people like Grey Davis, and (before him) Pete Wilson and the fine folks over at Enron the system collapses and then nobody has anything. Sigh.... I hear land is cheap in Fargo North Dakota. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319506 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 21:15:20 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Any Freed-Eisemann aficionados out there? References: <42E03C33.8080100@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: <935ec$42e048ad$4232be67$2653@COQUI.NET> Al Schapira wrote: Hi Al, I can't speak for anything specific on your model but I mess with TRFs and have a Freed-Eisemann NR-9. A few generic comments. > There is an original Freed-Eisemann assembly tag #56228 underneath one > tube socket, and most of the components, including a 2 Megohm > "fuse-type" grid-leak resistor, are labeled or engraved Freed-Eisemann. Verify the resistance. These tend to go upwards in value like typical carbon resistors. It will play fine well up to 5 Megs or so... > > because the glass rotates slightly with respect to the tube base. Is it > possible to remove the base by unsoldering the pins to repair the > intermittent contacts? What is recommended to re-glue the glass to the > base if the repair is successful? Yes, recommended to do that. The tubes don't really get hot so you can use most any type of glue. DONT use superglue, though. An epoxy works fine. > > The schematic does not indicate the C-voltage. The B+ is 90V and 22 1/2 > V. I assume the A-supply would be 5 or 6 volts. What should the C-supply > be? Typical is around minus 4.5 volts. > > The schematic shows the output jack in series with B+ in a plate > circuit. Its a standard 1/4" phone jack. > What is supposed to be plugged into the output jack? High impedance > headphones? An output transformer primary for a speaker? Yes, high impedance headphones or a high impedance speaker. You can use a modern speaker with xfmr but remember that most of the hi-z spkrs and phones were about 2000 ohms. Most typical modern tube radio xfmrs are considerably higher than that, 5-10k...not to say that you can't use one but something closer could be found. A set like that will drive a speaker pretty good on local stations. > > There are two interstage (audio) transformers, labeled "standard 3:1", > and "standard 5:1" on the schematic, but they appear to have at least > one open winding. Anything special about these? Are replacements > available? (I have repaired transformers before, but these appear > rather fragile.) Unfortunately this is all too common due to the tiny wire in those xfmrs. You could check PTOP to see if he has some good, exact replacements, otherwise you can use any similar xfmr with the same turns ratio...and thats not all that critical either. One of the Hammond 124 series available at AES or Radiodaze can also be used. Another option is to rig up an RC coupling circuit. Thats pretty lossy but some guys still recommend it. To replace BOTH xfmrs that way will significantly reduce the audio. Nonetheless, its a quick workaround for testing purposes. > > Based on what I know now, I doubt that this set will ever play again, > but it sure is pretty. What do you think? Quite the contrary. They are quite easy to get running again thanks to the low parts count! If you've never used an old trf before you'll find it very exciting. A set like that one will receive most anything you want to hear with a good antenna and ground although the strong signal selectivity in the upper half of the band will be terrible. Good luck with it and let us know your progress. -Bill Article: 319507 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Subject: Re: what are old theater amps being used for? Message-ID: <8nYDe.157718$go.2960@fed1read05> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 21:56:21 -0400 "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns9697D0DDC4D09noone@63.223.7.253... > " Uncle Peter" wrote in > news:Q_WCe.156030$go.7736@fed1read05: > > > I've heard that too, but I think the film chain was the limiting factor? > > > > No, the optical sound track used to pop and click like mad every time it > encountered dirt on the film. It's just a DC light bulb and a photocell, > you know. If the optical track was "open" to let more light on the > photocell at this instance, and a spot of dirt went by putting out the > little light beam through it...POP! > > The other limiting factor was how fast the old gas tube photocells and the > original Cd Sulfide cells could react to changes in light. They both had > an awful hysteresis (lag) and 5 Khz was probably taxing that limit. > Isn't that what I said???? Article: 319508 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> Subject: Re: what are old theater amps being used for? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 21:59:20 -0400 "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:Q%8De.13865$aY6.4089@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Records limited to 5kHz? Were there ever records made that delibrately > limited this? > > True, the FCC specs for a AM channel limits the transmission to 5kHz, and > most radio receivers do much the same, but a lot of radio stations cheated > on this and let it go a bit further. > Other than the new IBOC digital systems, there was Never a 5-kc bandwidth restriction on AM BCB stations. That is an old urban legend that keeps repeating itself on this newsgroup. I've posted links to the actual FCC regs, and IIRC the rolloff begins around 10 kHz. Pete Article: 319509 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Hallicrafters S-38A Photofact Question From: "Haggis" telus.net> References: <1121978855.504691.172300@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <9EYDe.127008$HI.9819@edtnps84> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 02:14:29 GMT On 21-Jul-2005, "Geoff" wrote: > I just searched the Sam's Photofact site for a Hallicrafters S-38A. > They offer: > > S-38 Folder 3-7 > S-38B Folder 121-7 > S-38C Folder 190-4 > S-38E Folder 605 > > Anyone know why there isn't a Photofact for an S-38A? > > Thanks, > Geoff I have the rider's sheets and they lump both models together. Maybe Sam's does a similar thing? The only difference I see at a quick skim through them is that the S-38A has 3 metal tubes, vs. 2 on the S-38B. Does this help? Cheers! Haggis. Article: 319510 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jwb" Subject: echophone ec-1 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 02:45:11 GMT looking for any info on replacing filter caps for a echophone ec-1 hums loud when plugged in. any help would be great.part numbers ect. jack Article: 319511 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 03:02:47 GMT Hi! > It was mentioned in the recent OT thread that the old radio hobby is dying. > Is it really, and does it have to be? I don't know if collecting radios is a dying hobby or not. For me it has been a little difficult to find these things. All I can say for sure is that while I have yet to tackle any major restorations, I have grabbed a number of radios. The ones in antique shops are expensive, but I've run across the odd bargain here and there. Still, most of my radios have come from the trash...someone set a box of several outside about two months ago. I grabbed them all...so far at least two of them will work beautifully with new capacitors. The others may need more in depth work or I may simply clean their casings and enjoy them in non working condition. I also have an Allied (Knight) amplifer and tuner that I posted about here on the group. These two pieces play beautfully and look to be in very good shape. Both may need some attention though. They have lots of wax capacitors (only one or two that leak) and there is a compact yellow selenium rectifier in the amplifier. The one radio I find myself using rather often is a GE Model 226. This is the first radio I've collected. For the record, I'm 22. I also collect and use IBM PS/2 computers. William Article: 319512 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <_JEAe.71035$go.30072@fed1read05> Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? Message-ID: <3oZDe.171559$_o.134618@attbi_s71> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 03:05:35 GMT Hi! > I ain't going to sweat it. One thing that does worry me is the > dawning age of Digital Radio, that might spell the death knell > for analog broadcasts on the BCB and SW eventually, but I > suspect I'll be long gone before the last analog transmitter > goes dark. Oh boy. I don't even like the concept. Give me a good analog signal any day...they degrade better and don't have artifacts from compression that sometimes slip through. But if that's the way it goes, I suppose we all can use older transmitters to convert the digital signals to something that our radios can receive. William Article: 319513 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Travis Ogden" Subject: Re: Any Freed-Eisemann aficionados out there? Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:16:10 -0500 Message-ID: <11e0ou7iqjavvb5@corp.supernews.com> References: <42E03C33.8080100@worldnet.att.net> Hi Al, I'm not 100% sure, but I think I have a case for this (original) and two of the tuning knobs. I don't have the filament knobs though, sorry. I will have to look tomorrow in my storage building. I'll let you know as soon as I can. I have two FE's, an FE-15 and an NR-20. Both are nice radios. I used an antique gold paint to fill in my words and numbers on both sets (right or wrong, but it looks pretty) Enjoy yours, like one guy wrote, there isn't a whole lot with these TRFs that you can't fix. Travis Article: 319514 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <24821-42D31810-892@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> <1121217469.050446.94380@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 03:11:41 GMT Hi! > It seems as though > there is a "newbie" every couple of days or so, and rather than read > the archives, they ask the same old dumb questions. After a period of > time, it gets old and I tend to not even answer anymore. Maybe so, but we all had to start somewhere. I am of the potentially mistaken belief that if you answer a newbie's question (and give a pointer to where more info can be found) that you may be keeping something out of an already overcrowded landfill. It's also very likely that you have added one more new face to the hobby...which is always a hedge against something just dying out. > I too have divested myself of a once huge Boatanchor collection and > don't miss it or the heat generated by it, especially in the summer. > You can only listen to one at a time......... If you only listen to one at a time, how can they heat up the house excessively? Does 'boatanchor' gear really make that much heat? William Article: 319515 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <24821-42D31810-892@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> <8-adnRHXWcHP-U7fRVn-oA@giganews.com> Subject: Re: Is the hobby dying? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 03:14:00 GMT Hi! I think that's very well put. Your site has been of enormous interest to me and I'm encouraged to try some of the things that you have done because you explain them so well. (My only complaint? Yeah, sorry. There is one little thing...I've sent some e-mails your way and never gotten an answer.) William Article: 319516 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: Subject: Re: Some one please Test ppinyot.com TO page. Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 04:12:16 GMT Hi! > Konqueror? Avant Browser? Camino? > iCab J? Konqueror comes with the K Desktop Environment for Linux. I don't know much about it. I don't know about Avant Browser. Camino is a development of Mozilla/Mozilla Firefox "specifically for Macintosh". I don't see much reason to use it. iCab is another Macintosh browser and probably one of the few current pieces of software that can still run on a 68K Macintosh. I use it on my PowerBook Duo 270C. > Some of the "incompatibles" that I have heard of were Safari > .84; Safari 1.00 Safari is Apple's offering with Mac OS X. I don't use it...too much I don't like about it so far. But most people do use it and are happy with it. > MS IE 4.0(!) I was doing that not too long ago with a PS/2 Model 53SLC2 and Windows 95. I upgraded to IE 5.5 after a while. > and so on. IMHO - there is nothing one > can do about people trying to run "ancient" and/or oddball browsers; > especially when those people represent less than a percent of the > "visiting public". Nothing anyone should do, either. I'm firmly of the belief that webmasters owe it to their audience (no matter how small) to produce content that will display in the desired format of the end user. I especially hate flash-only websites, even if I do have the hardware to throw at them. This can be hard and it does not always work--but some attempt should be made. But that's just my opinion on it... William Article: 319517 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: Subject: Re: Good morning all Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 05:00:25 GMT Solar panels anyone? Omer "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:RAXDe.1400$vf.619@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > Benjamaniac wrote: > >> Sure do have air in here now...just installed it last week. The >> temp here is over 100 now...and it's only 12:30PM. Couldn't handle it in >> here anymore without the air. > > Air conditioning doesn't help out here in southern california. > Thanks in part to the efforts of people like Grey Davis, and > (before him) Pete Wilson and the fine folks over at Enron the > system collapses and then nobody has anything. > > Sigh.... > > I hear land is cheap in Fargo North Dakota. > > Jeff > > > -- > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319518 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: WTB: Lamp Socket for Hickok Tube Tester Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:54:32 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:33:34 +0000, Dennis Daly wrote: > For the type 81 line fuse lamp in a model 800A. > BA-15s base, rated @ 125V, 75W. Two opposed radial lugs for wiring. > Fits models 600A, 800A and others. Maybe even the 532/533/534 and "A" > series? Not sure. > With about a 1 1/2" long mounting bracket with elongated slot along center > line > Bracket is electrically isolated from shell. A must. > So- Anyone with a junker Hickok panel (or anything else that uses this > same type/ style of socket) -wish to sell me one? > I'm offering $10 for a good one. > > Thanks, > Den Try an auto supply store. Just be sure that you get the kind with the bayonet pins at the same height (tail light bulbs have the pins at different heights so that the bulb can only go in one way. That ensures that the low power filament is used for the tail light and the high power filament is used for the stop light/turn signal. Since your bulb has only one filament, the pins are at the same height.) -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 319519 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Can bad caps cause this? Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:54:33 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1121134565.908633.314660@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> On Mon, 11 Jul 2005 19:16:06 -0700, garyb wrote: > Maybe this question is too Old Radio Repair 101, but bare with me. If > a set blows and shorts out 35Z5's, would recapping resolve the issue? > Seems like the set builds up alot of voltage, then pops the 35v tube in > an AA five set. This is getting expensive using that tube as a fuse, > LOL. Some sets (RCA comes to mind) have a capacitor across the rectifier. If this capacitor shorts it puts the AC line voltage on the filter capacitors. The capacitors might survive this but they will draw a lot of current through the heater tap of the 35Z5 and the pilot lights blowing all of them (not fun on sets that use hard-to-find 1490 pilot lights). I'm not sure what you mean by "builds up alot of voltage". How does this show up? Does the plate of the 35Z5 get red hot? If so, there is a short in the B+ circuit, probably the filter capacitor. If you mean the heater gets very bright, it could be a shorted filter capacitor (sets that use a pilot light run the plate current of the rectifier through a section of the heater), shorted bypass capacitor as discussed in the first paragraph, a short in the heater circuit, or perhaps wrong tubes in the set. An AA5 of this vintage would usually have a 12SA7, 12SK7, 12SQ7, 50L6, and 35Z5. You would have trouble if someone put in a 25L6 or 12L6 in place of the 50L6 although the other tubes would be subject to the same stress. Perhaps your set isn't supposed to use a 35Z5. If you find a tube lineup like 6A8, 6K7, 6Q7, and 25L6 with a ballast tube or resistance line cord, the rectifier would most likely be a 25Z6. A 35Z5 would work but wouldn't last long. If these ideas don't help, give us more information. The make and model of the set is always a good starting point. A more detailed description of the symptoms would help too. Good luck. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 319520 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: 12V plate tubes... many types! Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 22:54:33 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 02:37:03 -0400, Mark Oppat wrote: > I was sorting some minature tubes and had a few of those 12V plate types > like 12AD6 and 12FK6. So, I got out my RC30 RCA tube manual and looked in > the back chart at all the 12v plate tubes. > HOLY SHIT, Batman, there were 31 types by my count! 12AC6, AD6, AE6, AE7, > AF6, AJ6, AL8, and etc, etc, > > I had NO idea there were that many designed for 12V plate (basically, auto) > use! Why so many??? > Their use in production radios was fairly short, I think the first use of > these was 1956 model year, and they were done by about 1964 I think... > > Mark Oppat I get 49 types by my count (from a variety of sources). Here are the ones I know about: 6DR8/EBF83 6DS8/ECH83 6ES6/EF97 6ET6/EF98/CV8694 6EZ6 6FD6 6GM8/ECC86 12AC6 12AD6 12AE6 12AE7 12AF6 12AG6 12AJ6 12AL8 12BL6 12CN5 12CX6 12CY6 12DE8 12DK5 12DK7 12DL8 12DS7 12DU7 12DV7 12DV8 12DW8 12DY8 12DZ6 12EA6 12EC8 12EG6 12EK6 12EL6 12EM6 12EZ6 12F8 12FA6 12FK6 12FM6 12FR8 12FT6 12FX8 12G8 12GA6 12J8 12K5 12U7 Does anyone know of any others? The 6 volt ones were rated to run on 6, 12, or 24 volts for the plate. European car makers didn't change to 12V systems until long after the American makers did. The book "Radio for the Millions" published in 1945 shows 4 circuits using 9V or less for B+. Tubes used are 1G4, 1SA6, 6C6, 6SJ7, and 958. I believe that the ARRL once published a circuit for a code practice oscillator that didn't use any plate voltage at all. It relied on "contact potential" for it's plate power. I can't find the circuit for this one, however. At one time I breadboarded an oscillator circuit that ran with only 3V on the plate. I don't remember for sure the tube type but it may have been a 6K7. Low voltage operation has been around for a long time and it doesn't require special tubes. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 319521 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 07:33:37 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: echophone ec-1 References: Message-ID: jwb wrote: > looking for any info on replacing filter caps for a echophone ec-1 > hums loud when plugged in. > any help would be great.part numbers ect. > jack > > Here's the schematic, parts list and alignment info. http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/417/M0004417.pdf GL, Bill Article: 319522 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 07:36:27 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Any Freed-Eisemann aficionados out there? References: <42E03C33.8080100@worldnet.att.net> <935ec$42e048ad$4232be67$2653@COQUI.NET> <0q6dneUDcqKoyH3fRVn-jA@comcast.com> Message-ID: <8aaca$42e0da3f$4232bd26$547@COQUI.NET> Radar wrote: > Egads, why not Super Glue? I just re-glued ( with Super Glue) and > re-soldered a 201A. Did I mess up? It seems to work fine. One of those mysteries... I used to use superglue on everything...and still do on some tubes. I've had the glass break right at the glue line on two tubes and they were both old 1920s tubes ('99As) OUCH! I'm not exactly sure why it breaks but I'll no longer use it on the old tubes. -Bill Article: 319523 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 07:48:58 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Any Freed-Eisemann aficionados out there? References: <42E03C33.8080100@worldnet.att.net> <935ec$42e048ad$4232be67$2653@COQUI.NET> <0q6dneUDcqKoyH3fRVn-jA@comcast.com> Message-ID: <38dca$42e0dd2f$4232bd26$16867@COQUI.NET> Sal D'Ambra wrote: > Hi, > > I have used superglue and have never had a problem. Someone told me it can > cause cracking of the envelope at the glue joint. I assume because the bond > is tight and the rates of thermal expansion for the glass and socket are > different. > > Sal > Sal, in my case both 99A examples were sitting protected in a well-lined little box, never even had power applied to them. They broke sometime after they had been cured and put away. I passed the first one off as a fluke when it broke. The second one convinced me. The glass is very thin on these tubes. Its hard to imagine the glue shrinking as it cures to the extent that it would snap the glass but for the cost of two good 99As I can find a better adhesive or revise my technique to apply just a few dabs of glue no matter which adhesive is used. Conversely I've had quite a few that did not break...yet. -Bill Article: 319524 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 07:52:49 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Rauland/(Zenith?) kit TV? References: <2uydnZIKfdgAcEPfRVn-gQ@giganews.com> <1121917104.928980.154990@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4JudnZMox47XRELfRVn-iw@comcast.com> <1121971379.507825.181040@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122009570.304494.230140@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <8f393$42e0de16$4232bd26$18913@COQUI.NET> Jeff, WB8NHV wrote: > whereas I also see LG sets--usually in the same ad, and sometimes on > the same page(!) Is LG still using the lightning bolt emblem on their > sets, or have they made a clean break with what was/is left of Zenith, > if there is anything left of the company (which I doubt)? I'm asking > because I see sets both with the Zenith emblem and some with LG's logo, > and am a bit confused. Is LG using the Zenith lightning bolt on its > sets simply to prevent the symbol from going into public domain? I have no idea. My guess would be that it makes sense to utilize the Zenith logos since they are presumed to have some 'respect' in the US market. -Bill Article: 319525 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" Subject: Re: 12V plate tubes... many types! Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 04:55:13 -0700 Message-ID: <11e1nmog3korc53@corp.supernews.com> References: The Allied Radio Knight-Kit 100-in-1 electronics lab (wish I'd saved mine!) used such a tube to avoid exposing the user to a high B+. 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Please contact me using the information below: ______________________________________________________ This message complies with the latest Spam guidelines it contains unsubscribe links and contact details. if this message is NOT intended for your news group or you do NOT allow these type of posts please send a blank message to unsubscribe@moneywebpage.com _____________________________________________________ Tony Saffioti TSR PTY LTD PO BOX 75 RAMSGATE N.S.W 2217 AUSTRALIA PH: 61 02 9531 2058 FAX: 61 02 9531 2068 or e-mail Tony@hover-it.com --- MAF Anti-Spam ID: 20050625214348T8a8PkF3 From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Fri Jul 22 11:53:31 EDT 2005 Article: 319527 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: what are old theater amps being used for? References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> <1121998469.248084.224900@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 19 Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:40:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1122043236 66.65.49.245 (Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:40:36 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:40:36 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319527 In article <1121998469.248084.224900@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, questforsquier@yahoo.com wrote: > I have wondered why the band is often listed as 525 or 535-1605 *x-band > 1705 or 1710...either it has mandated overlap to protect adjacent > services or it it a center channel carrier setup. I'm thinking it's more to do with fine tuning - you know. gives you a little bit of margin to rock the dial and center it exactly. Ever, for the fun of it, diddle with the aligning of a radio so that a station at AM 16 is right at the end? I have. It's annoying and the station always sounds slightly out of tune to me. The little space at the end of the band is more than welcome. I just use it to help me rock the dial and fine-tune. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 319528 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42E106C9.8020006@worldnet.att.net> From: Al Schapira Subject: Re: Any Freed-Eisemann aficionados out there? References: <42E03C33.8080100@worldnet.att.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 14:43:32 GMT Thanks to all who replied, for the very helpful infomation and encouragement. I'll try to make progress reports, if I make any progress. :-) -Al Al Schapira wrote: > Hello, Freed-Eisemann aficionados: > > The radio in question is a 1924 Freed-Eisemann model FE-15, No. 265-J > that I found in an "antique" store while I was on vacation. It has no > cabinet, and had been sitting in a cardboard box since 1964 according to > the newspapers it was half packed with. ... Article: 319529 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Burr" References: Subject: Re: Grundig Satellit 700 memory chips Message-ID: <0S7Ee.1498$dM3.661@trnddc04> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 15:00:12 GMT "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:dbn8oe$592$1@news2.kornet.net... > > "Burr" wrote in message > news:M2EDe.23590$IJ1.17298@trnddc02... >> Week away from heading west. >> You find any parts for my old radio >> >> Burr > > Not yet.. :( Have never gotten an e-mail back from my German source. I may > have to TRY to go through ACT Electronics. > > OK, Enjoy Article: 319530 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "bigter1" Subject: Neutrowound Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 10:02:41 -0500 Message-ID: <11e22ldoammib5@corp.supernews.com> Does anyone have a schematic diagram of the Neutrowound Radio? If so please email : tsm@electrosys.com Thanks Article: 319531 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Radio transcriptions Message-ID: <509Ee.15335$aY6.1347@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:19:13 GMT Once a month, on the third Wednesday, I DJ for a car cruise in St. Petersburg. Lately I've taken advantage of this, and stopped on the way at Bananas Records, to browse through their huge racks of 45's for more songs I may not have. This past week was no exception; however I was chatting with the lady there about radio transcriptions. She told me they have several, mainly of programs such as Jack Benny and the Lone Ranger. She doesn't know where they are, but the owner can tell me. I haven't decided if I want to pursue this or not -- but, our swap meets lately have included radios for display, and I've played some OTR, mainly music, through an AMT-3000 into any radio that wants to play it. Instead of playing cassettes or CD's, it would be cool to actually set up a turntable and play the actual transcriptions, exactly as it was done back in the day. Of course storage space is a factor . . . Anyway, what would you consider to be a fair price for a transcription turntable, and what would be considered a fair price for transcriptions -- specifically Your Hit Parade, and various bands? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 319532 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: Good morning all Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 11:00:09 -0600 Message-ID: References: > Air conditioning doesn't help out here in southern california. > Thanks in part to the efforts of people like Grey Davis, and > (before him) Pete Wilson and the fine folks over at Enron the > system collapses and then nobody has anything. > > Sigh.... > > I hear land is cheap in Fargo North Dakota. > > Jeff Land is even cheaper here than in Fargo Jeff...a LOT cheaper. Ben Article: 319533 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: OT: Political rant. Was Re: Good morning all References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:38:36 GMT I had originally written: > Air conditioning doesn't help out here in southern california. > Thanks in part to the efforts of people like Grey Davis, and > (before him) Pete Wilson and the fine folks over at Enron the > system collapses and then nobody has anything. Peter Wieck wrote: > Jeff: > > I don't understand the issue? > > Cost of power? What is it per KWH? Here PA, we are paying > between $0.10 and $0.14 per KWH when all the taxes and charges > are included. The bill, as to be expected, is a bit cryptic and I don't feel like trying to fully decode it. However, the rate(s) are on the order of $0.02 to $0.20 per KWH. > And, of course, the more you use, the less you are charged > per additional KWH... go figure. Not here it isn't. It's $0.02 for the "baseline", which in my case is 316 KWH per month. This month was 945 KWH. Note: This is WITHOUT Electric heating, air-conditioning or cooking. > Availability of power? Do you have useage limits? What are the > penalties if you go over? See above. Use more than an arbitrary amount and bend over. > AC units are illegal? I can see efficiency requirements, but beyond > that? No, but most people seem to think that they're the one and only special exception to the usage, so they have their 3500 sq. ft house cooled down to 68 degrees. As a result, things go off line. Highland Park yesterday. (A local enclave of "we're special because we have money" people.) > Or is there something about the air/climate in Southern California such > that AC is not possible (what you said, BTW)? If this is the case, how > was it legislated? It wasn't air conditioning that was regulated per se. I was the push back in the 90s to deregulate the utility industry. A clever move. Edison sold off all their generating plants. But the new owners were NOT regulated. Enron (the worst offender) was playing "Take it off for maintenance" games with the generating stations and causing rolling blackouts across most of California back in 2000-2001. Prices for electrical supply jumped up OVER $1.00/KWH on the spot market as a result. Yesterdays outage affected 155 thousand people. My Edison bill used to be $25-30/month. It's now averaging over $100. Of course, Gasoline used to be $0.85/gallon too. Funny, I don't recall seeing my WAGES triple.... Side note: I can see William frothing in the background getting ready to post an "I told you so!" about evil corporations and such. Just remember, if they all go away then we go right back to a hand to mouth sustenance existence raising our own food and fixing what little we own that still works with hand tools. Well, perhaps 10 percent of us any ways. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319534 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dennis Daly" References: Subject: Re: WTB: Lamp Socket for Hickok Tube Tester Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 18:09:55 GMT "Jim Mueller" wrote in message news:pan.2005.06.30.05.29.22.370379@nospam.com... > On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:33:34 +0000, Dennis Daly wrote: > > > For the type 81 line fuse lamp in a model 800A. > > BA-15s base, rated @ 125V, 75W. Two opposed radial lugs for wiring. > > Fits models 600A, 800A and others. Maybe even the 532/533/534 and "A" > > series? Not sure. > > With about a 1 1/2" long mounting bracket with elongated slot along center > > line > > Bracket is electrically isolated from shell. A must. > > So- Anyone with a junker Hickok panel (or anything else that uses this > > same type/ style of socket) -wish to sell me one? > > I'm offering $10 for a good one. > > > > Thanks, > > Den > > > Try an auto supply store. Just be sure that you get the kind with the > bayonet pins at the same height (tail light bulbs have the pins at > different heights so that the bulb can only go in one way. That ensures > that the low power filament is used for the tail light and the high power > filament is used for the stop light/turn signal. Since your bulb has only > one filament, the pins are at the same height.) > > -- > Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com Thanks, but I got the proper socket already. OEM. (Thanks John!) I'd be hesitant to use a socket designed and/or rated for automotive use with 120 VAC, unless the item ratings also were OK for typical AC line voltage ratings as specified.. Just my cautionary nature, I guess, but I adhere to ratings, not presumed speculation. Den > > To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. > Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 319535 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: what are old theater amps being used for? References: <98ydnbqQcfP47kXfRVn-hQ@giganews.com> <1121998469.248084.224900@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1122057439.250472.109750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 18:56:13 GMT questforsquier@yahoo.com wrote: > Steven > where no buffalo roam (we grow them for meat) But apparently NO shortage of BS. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319536 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Any News on Bill Turner? Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 12:21:24 -0700 Message-ID: <29336-42E14734-75@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: I was just fixing to post an inquiry about Bill also. Sure hope he didn't buy the big one. Bill(oc) Article: 319537 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: OT: Political rant. Was Re: Good morning all References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:17:32 GMT Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Not here it isn't. It's $0.02 for the "baseline", which in my > case is 316 KWH per month. This month was 945 KWH. Note: This > is WITHOUT Electric heating, air-conditioning or cooking. Jeff: If you're paying 2 cents a KWH, you should get on your knees and thank who ever gave you that gift. I think it's much more likely you've got the decimal off, seeing as how it's Californicate and all.... 20 cents would be more like it. And power bills, like telephone bills, are written to be difficult to understand so they can sneak all the "oh, by the way..." and "gotcha!" charges into them without your notice. D.S. Article: 319538 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: OT: Political rant. Was Re: Good morning all References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 20:19:52 GMT Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > My Edison bill used to be $25-30/month. It's now averaging over $100. Good GOD, man! What ARE you griping about?? I haven't paid an electric bill that cheap in years. Come here to Texas and cool a dinky 1100 square foot home in July for, oh, $300 or so... D.S. Article: 319539 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:37:25 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: OT: Political rant. Was Re: Good morning all References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <69311$42e15909$4232bde0$23793@COQUI.NET> David Stinson wrote: > Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > >> My Edison bill used to be $25-30/month. It's now averaging over $100. > > > Good GOD, man! What ARE you griping about?? > I haven't paid an electric bill that cheap in years. > Come here to Texas and cool a dinky 1100 square foot home > in July for, oh, $300 or so... > > D.S. Must be all those boatanchors. -Bill Article: 319540 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Good morning all Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 05:48:33 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Jeff: > > I don't understand the issue? > > Cost of power? What is it per KWH? Here PA, we are paying between $0.10 > and $0.14 per KWH when all the taxes and charges are included. And, of > course, the more you use, the less you are charged per additional > KWH... go figure. > Availability of power? Do you have useage limits? What are the > penalties if you go over? > AC units are illegal? I can see efficiency requirements, but beyond > that? > Or is there something about the air/climate in Southern California such > that AC is not possible (what you said, BTW)? If this is the case, how > was it legislated? Ahhh... for cheap electricity (this from someone who used to live in Oregon where power was capped at 4.4 cents/KwH for decades). Here's the rundown of our electricity charges: First 100 KwH- 5.5 cents/KwH 2nd 100 KwH- 11.3 cents/KwH 3rd 100 KwH- 16.3 cents/KwH 4th 100 KwH- 23.5 cents/KwH 5th 100 KwH- 34.6 cents/KwH Over 500 KwH- 60.7 cents/KwH This gets DAMN expensive in the summer running our AC. It's not exactly cheap at any time when we have three people in the house running computers with 7 drives each in them.. :) Article: 319541 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: echophone ec-1 References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 21:12:16 GMT One thing to check on this radio is the rubber grommets used to insulate the chassis from the case. They are usually dried out and need to be replaced. Use an isolation transformer when servicing this radio. If the grommets are bad there can be a direct connection to the case from the AC line. I have a copy of the original manual, it's not great but I could scan it. jwb wrote: > looking for any info on replacing filter caps for a echophone ec-1 > hums loud when plugged in. > any help would be great.part numbers ect. > jack > > Article: 319542 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 18:27:57 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Rauland/(Zenith?) kit TV? References: <2uydnZIKfdgAcEPfRVn-gQ@giganews.com> <1121917104.928980.154990@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4JudnZMox47XRELfRVn-iw@comcast.com> <1121971379.507825.181040@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9dq2e1ppa716optbmqb50k12j6bbgdmt7o@4ax.com> Message-ID: <3b3d1$42e172f2$4232bde0$32655@COQUI.NET> Andy Cuffe wrote: > Zenith was making some TVs for Hitachi in the late 90's. That has to > be one of the only cases of a US TV manufacturer making something for > a Japanese company. > > Don't get me started on how bad 90's Zenith projection sets are. > Ironically, Hitachi started making all Zenith branded projections by > the late 90's. > Andy Cuffe Interesting in that LG acquired Zenith in July 1995. Maybe they leased out the name. -Bill Article: 319543 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: echophone ec-1 References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 22:44:05 GMT See the ad I posted on the binaries for this radio jwb wrote: > looking for any info on replacing filter caps for a echophone ec-1 > hums loud when plugged in. > any help would be great.part numbers ect. > jack > > Article: 319544 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: Good morning all Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 16:54:07 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message news:wtCdnV4TBbZ373zfRVn-rg@bright.net... > Benjamaniac wrote: >> Just came out to the shop...getting ready to go to work on that >> Theremin project after I finish checking email...etc...and thought I'd >> just say hi and top of the morning to everyone in the group. Let's see >> how much progress I get done today :) >> Ben > Ben, > > I thought your post was a delight. Did you have a cool comfortable day and > get a lot of work done on the Theremin? I sure hope so and I hope you have > a nice pleasant evening. > > Stewart It's about halfway done now. I'm taking my time and making sure I don't make any horrendous mistakes. I'm the guy who describes himself as the "Perpetual Rookie". I wish I knew half as much about electronics as most of the guys on here seem to know. This has got to be the most wonderful hobby in the world. There's always something new to learn. My big problem seems to be digesting and understanding theory. But then again, I've only been at this for a couple years now. Maybe as time goes on I'll finally start "seeing the light". I have managed to save a lot of radios from the dump though, and I guess the bottom line is...that's what it's all about. Ben...The Perpetual Rookie Article: 319545 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42E1B9D6.B23BF8C7@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: 12V plate tubes... many types! References: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 23:30:30 -0400 While on the subject of 12 volt plate tubes, does anyone have any to sell cheap to experiment with. Regards, Sal Brisindi Jim Mueller wrote: > On Wed, 20 Jul 2005 02:37:03 -0400, Mark Oppat wrote: > > > I was sorting some minature tubes and had a few of those 12V plate types > > like 12AD6 and 12FK6. So, I got out my RC30 RCA tube manual and looked in > > the back chart at all the 12v plate tubes. > > HOLY SHIT, Batman, there were 31 types by my count! 12AC6, AD6, AE6, AE7, > > AF6, AJ6, AL8, and etc, etc, > > > > I had NO idea there were that many designed for 12V plate (basically, auto) > > use! Why so many??? > > Their use in production radios was fairly short, I think the first use of > > these was 1956 model year, and they were done by about 1964 I think... > > > > Mark Oppat > > I get 49 types by my count (from a variety of sources). Here are the ones > I know about: > > 6DR8/EBF83 > 6DS8/ECH83 > 6ES6/EF97 > 6ET6/EF98/CV8694 > 6EZ6 > 6FD6 > 6GM8/ECC86 > 12AC6 > 12AD6 > 12AE6 > 12AE7 > 12AF6 > 12AG6 > 12AJ6 > 12AL8 > 12BL6 > 12CN5 > 12CX6 > 12CY6 > 12DE8 > 12DK5 > 12DK7 > 12DL8 > 12DS7 > 12DU7 > 12DV7 > 12DV8 > 12DW8 > 12DY8 > 12DZ6 > 12EA6 > 12EC8 > 12EG6 > 12EK6 > 12EL6 > 12EM6 > 12EZ6 > 12F8 > 12FA6 > 12FK6 > 12FM6 > 12FR8 > 12FT6 > 12FX8 > 12G8 > 12GA6 > 12J8 > 12K5 > 12U7 > > Does anyone know of any others? > > The 6 volt ones were rated to run on 6, 12, or 24 volts for the plate. > European car makers didn't change to 12V systems until long after the > American makers did. > > The book "Radio for the Millions" published in 1945 shows 4 circuits using > 9V or less for B+. Tubes used are 1G4, 1SA6, 6C6, 6SJ7, and 958. I > believe that the ARRL once published a circuit for a code practice > oscillator that didn't use any plate voltage at all. It relied on > "contact potential" for it's plate power. I can't find the circuit for > this one, however. > > At one time I breadboarded an oscillator circuit that ran with only 3V on > the plate. I don't remember for sure the tube type but it may have been a > 6K7. > > Low voltage operation has been around for a long time and it doesn't > require special tubes. > > -- > Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com > > To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. > Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 319546 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42E1BA36.9667B36D@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Any News on Bill Turner? References: Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 23:32:06 -0400 There must be someone who lives near him who can find out how Bill is doing. Did he belong to any local radio/ham clubs? Sal Brisindi David Stinson wrote: > Forgive me if I missed an earlier report. > Anyone heard how he's doing? Article: 319547 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Steve B. Subject: Re: Rauland/(Zenith?) kit TV? Message-ID: References: <2uydnZIKfdgAcEPfRVn-gQ@giganews.com> <1121917104.928980.154990@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4JudnZMox47XRELfRVn-iw@comcast.com> <1121971379.507825.181040@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9dq2e1ppa716optbmqb50k12j6bbgdmt7o@4ax.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 05:27:36 GMT On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 17:56:30 -0400, Andy Cuffe wrote: >On Thu, 21 Jul 2005 15:06:52 -0500, Bill Cohn >wrote: > >> >>If the set is a 20" or smaller the CRT came from the Mexico plant that >>did not have the quality problems of the Melrose Park plant. They only >>made 27" CRTs in Melrose park by the 90s. >> I bought one of the 27" sets in the early 90's as I wanted something at least owned by an American company and the Zenith was the only thing out there I could find. Sure was a mistake.... two years later it was dead. Something in the tube shorted and ate the board when it died. The 19" Sharp I bought in '86 on the other hand is still going strong 19 years later and it plays at least five hours a day. I wish it would die every day so I could have a LCD tv for the bedroom. My real point to posting here was about the kit TV's though. Does any one make something like it today? When I was a boy I wanted one so bad I could taste it but Momma always said I would kill my fool self with it. I have searched for them on and off over the years on e-bay but never seen anything that was complete and affordable. Would one of these kits still work after all these years in storage? Meaning would the original caps, resistors, etc still be good or would they need to be replaced same as is needed with the older radios? Steve B. Article: 319548 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Steve B. Subject: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 05:36:12 GMT Hi All: I'm an old car nut mostly with a lot of interest but very little knowledge of tube electronics (or electronics in general) One of my cars has an auto dimming mirror which is basically a light sensor and a relay that feeds a magnet. It has a 12X5 tube that I have replaced (you can see the device @ http://c-i-f.ifrance.com/mirrormatic_1959.htm) (not my web page) Anyway this one doesn't work. If I manually trip the relay it will pull the mirror back but nothing I can do will make it work automatically. This mirror is all but irreplaceable and my electronic skills aren't anywhere near the level they would need to be to fix it. Can anyone here recommend someone that would be willing and able to take a look at it and get it working again for me? I am in the Tampa area so the closer the better but I will ship anywhere the smart person is. Steve B. Article: 319549 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Vintage stereo info? References: <11du9i1bb2nbm31@corp.supernews.com> <1122053228.766080.147180@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1122057007.138838.317010@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122064494.479266.221230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1122067203.519424.105440@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122068529.452182.227510@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122086607.359801.187070@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122097218.975708.48600@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 05:51:45 GMT No longer amused wrote: > Goodnight Phil. An apt new pseudo name there Skippy. People here stopped being amused by your constant self serving drivle a LONG time ago. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Sat Jul 23 23:07:38 EDT 2005 Article: 319550 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Vintage stereo info? Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 23:06:30 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <11e3ngujns36rc7@corp.supernews.com> Reply-To: "David Axt" References: <11du9i1bb2nbm31@corp.supernews.com> <1122053228.766080.147180@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 67 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-08!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319550 "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1122053228.766080.147180@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > David: > > In this, there will be as many opinions as grains of sand in Cape May. > But to put an Orwellian slant on it: > > Tubes: Good > Solid State: Bad > > US-made: good > Japanese Made: Bad > European Made: Prepare for a fight > > *** EXCEPTING EXOTIC BRANDS *** > > McIntosh = US-Marantz Top Tier > Scott = Fisher = Tube KLH Next Tier > Acrosound = Dynaco Next Tier > > Eico = Allied = Realistic For the commoners > > Outliers include Crown, Rabco, Ampex, Advent and RABCO & AR and several > TT makers for moving parts, as well as Dual, Thorens and PE on the Euro > side. > > I guess what I am trying to say is that you will get huge amounts of > opinion and even a few facts on the various fora to be seen. What you > will not get is any information that will be directly useful to you and > how you listen to music. You will also get wildly differing opinions as > to cost and everything else. > > My suggestion would be to start with stuff that was designed to be > user-friendly from the git-go. That would be mostly Scott (kits) and > Dynaco. These brands are not only designed to be assembled by the > end-user, but also are pretty good in their own right. There are _at > least_ dozens of modifications and tweeks out there as well, so you > have ample room to explore the various options. And, most important of > all, they are very well-supported when it comes to after-market spare > parts. Dynaco is the prime example of an almost-cult, one to which I am > an occasional subscriber/participant, BTW. > > When it comes to speakers I am far to prejudiced to render a valid > opinion in a vacuum. I tend to lean strongly towards vintage Acoustic > Suspension designs, in part because I have always had sufficient power > to drive them. But I have heard and very much enjoyed speakers made by > Klipsch, Martin and others. > > Haunt flea-markets, garage sales and estate sales. Hope to get lucky > and find a group made by Dynaco, Scott or Fisher and with tubes. Start > small. But if you expect to go out and buy retail, just check the > prices on a Marantz 10B lately. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA Wow! Thanks for the rules of thumb. What about Harmon Kardon or Luxman or Phase Linear? I'm actually interested in some solid state stuff from that era. -David > Article: 319551 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:30:34 GMT That is quite a web page! I didn't read it in its entirety, but skimmed over it. What comes to my mind is the photosensor. It has probably lost some sensitivity and so the circuit is hesitant to trigger the relay. I don't know what the specs are, or whether a modern photosensor would have similar specs, but my guess is that's the root of the problem. It's interesting to see another tube-controlled device in a car! Of course there's the radio, then the auto-dimmer, now an auto mirror. Are there yet other such devices? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Steve B." wrote in message news:dal3e1hq4ddh3vqlmm45lg5betp3142c7c@4ax.com... > Hi All: > I'm an old car nut mostly with a lot of interest but very little > knowledge of tube electronics (or electronics in general) > > One of my cars has an auto dimming mirror which is basically a light > sensor and a relay that feeds a magnet. It has a 12X5 tube that I > have replaced (you can see the device @ > http://c-i-f.ifrance.com/mirrormatic_1959.htm) (not my web page) > > Anyway this one doesn't work. If I manually trip the relay it will > pull the mirror back but nothing I can do will make it work > automatically. This mirror is all but irreplaceable and my electronic > skills aren't anywhere near the level they would need to be to fix it. > Can anyone here recommend someone that would be willing and able to > take a look at it and get it working again for me? I am in the Tampa > area so the closer the better but I will ship anywhere the smart > person is. > > Steve B. > > Article: 319552 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Robinson" References: <2uydnb1Hs-qStXzfRVn-sw@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Push Pull output with a transformer phase inverter Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 11:52:23 GMT Hi Terry, One other thought. Did you check your scope to be sure that the high frequency artifacts are not due to scope probe mismatch. The differential mode you describe is not known to be as accurate as a real diff amp and probe set. To check, attach both probes to the square wave calibrator and set the input gains to the lowest range (5mv/div?). Look at the resulting waveform and see if there are any artifacts present. You can try to achieve a better null by using the gain adjust on one of the channels to null out the flat tops of the square wave. Then you will see the high frequency errors as spikes at the rising and falling edges. If the probes have comp adjustments, you can null improve the high freq null by adjusting one. Always adjust the comps on each channel using the squarewave in single ended mode first. Then, only change one of the probes to see if you can improve the null. You won't be able to completely null out all errors and you may need to repeat the adjustment on other input gain ranges due to scope issues. If you still see high frequency errors (and you are sure they are not due to scope errors), you may be able to reduce them by adding some capacitance on one of the grids. Mark "TerryJ" wrote in message news:2uydnb1Hs-qStXzfRVn-sw@comcast.com... > I recently restored a SC 145L which has a 6L6 push pull output. It sounds > OK but I was expecting better. It has a sort of harshness that is hard to > describe. My Philco 96 and 112 with PP 45s sound better. > > While testing during recapping the chassis the SC had the harshness but I > attributed it to the speaker being out in the open. I tried a PM speaker > but there was little change. The sound improved when the speaker was > installed in the cabinet with the acoustic labyrinth installed but still is > not up to what I expected. > > I have a dual channel scope and checked the signal on the grids of the 6L6s. > I thought that if the inputs were added and one channel inverted the scope > would display a straight line. It did not. There was always a small amount > of the higher frequency components that did not cancel in the scope. Is this > an inherent characteristic of a transformer phase inverter or is this > indicative of a problem? > > I picked 6L6s that matched in emission as closely as possible but there was > little effect. The bias is correct. I added some feedback from 6L6 plate to > grid that helped some but I prefer 'original'. Am I expecting too much? > -- > Kind regards, > Terry Judkins > http://home.comcast.net/~suptjud > Article: 319553 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <11dmid75rforn05@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: DSI industries? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 08:41:48 -0400 "David Axt" wrote in message news:11dmid75rforn05@corp.supernews.com... > I just bought (well it was given to me) a Frequency counter from DSI > Industries of San Diego. Has anybody ever heard of these guys? I am trying > (in vain) to find an owner's manual. > > Thanks, > David > > Did you try here? http://www.manualman.com/catalog/news12.htm Article: 319554 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <509Ee.15335$aY6.1347@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Radio transcriptions Message-ID: <9QqEe.7442$Qi4.989470@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 08:35:18 -0400 Curious what player/tonearm you use. I have a few of these, the only reason I originally bought them was to see something that my SME 3012 was made to play! -- "Stay calm. Be brave. Wait for the signs." regards, Frank Johansen Aurora, Ontario Article: 319555 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Biasi" References: Subject: Re: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 09:07:32 -0400 "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:e%oEe.3211$6f.203@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > That is quite a web page! > > I didn't read it in its entirety, but skimmed over it. What comes to my > mind is the photosensor. It has probably lost some sensitivity and so the > circuit is hesitant to trigger the relay. I don't know what the specs > are, or whether a modern photosensor would have similar specs, but my > guess is that's the root of the problem. > > It's interesting to see another tube-controlled device in a car! Of > course there's the radio, then the auto-dimmer, now an auto mirror. Are > there yet other such devices? > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > More likely the tube is shot. See if you can find a replacement tube first before you start digging in the circuit. Tom Article: 319556 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Steve B. Subject: Re: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device Message-ID: References: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:23:41 GMT On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:30:34 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >That is quite a web page! > >I didn't read it in its entirety, but skimmed over it. What comes to my >mind is the photosensor. It has probably lost some sensitivity and so the >circuit is hesitant to trigger the relay. I don't know what the specs are, >or whether a modern photosensor would have similar specs, but my guess is >that's the root of the problem. > >It's interesting to see another tube-controlled device in a car! Of course >there's the radio, then the auto-dimmer, now an auto mirror. Are there yet >other such devices? Well the only other thing I can think of would be the hiway hi-fi record player that was optional back then. http://www.roadkillontheweb.com/arp.html Article: 319557 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Steve B. Subject: Re: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device Message-ID: <47h4e1d7d1t28vjnv7s0bu3vrd7e923bes@4ax.com> References: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:24:23 GMT On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 09:07:32 -0400, "Tom Biasi" wrote: > >"Gary Tayman" wrote in message >news:e%oEe.3211$6f.203@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... >> That is quite a web page! >> >> I didn't read it in its entirety, but skimmed over it. What comes to my >> mind is the photosensor. It has probably lost some sensitivity and so the >> circuit is hesitant to trigger the relay. I don't know what the specs >> are, or whether a modern photosensor would have similar specs, but my >> guess is that's the root of the problem. >> >> It's interesting to see another tube-controlled device in a car! Of >> course there's the radio, then the auto-dimmer, now an auto mirror. Are >> there yet other such devices? >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> >More likely the tube is shot. See if you can find a replacement tube first >before you start digging in the circuit. >Tom > Tube was already replaced with no change in result. Thanx for the advice though! Steve B. Article: 319558 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Rauland/(Zenith?) kit TV? References: <2uydnZIKfdgAcEPfRVn-gQ@giganews.com> <1121917104.928980.154990@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4JudnZMox47XRELfRVn-iw@comcast.com> <30r2e1dd7vd83si4f9emchos8n35drr7fo@4ax.com> <9lf3e19e4crn48np5hqlnibip3tjn71g7e@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:24:54 +0200 Andy Cuffe wrote: > Zenith used to be a leader in CRT technology. It's a shame they never > had the chance to develop their flat screen CRTs. I have one of their > 17" flat screen monitors from 1993. It's very advanced for its age Are you sure? LG has had a 'Flatron' line of tubes for some years now, could that be based on Zenith patents? Just wondering. --- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 319559 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 06:38:38 -0700 Message-ID: <29336-42E2485E-147@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: <47h4e1d7d1t28vjnv7s0bu3vrd7e923bes@4ax.com> This might be an application for the 'damp water color brush' trick which i have found very useful on occasion, in high impedance, low voltage situations. Use a water color brush that does not have a metal shank. Slightly dampen it so it's slightly conductive, and use it to daub around in the suspected area (while the unit is under power, of course), watching for the result. In this case, the photo sensor and tube input area would be suspect. This trick has been known to instantly isolate the bad part. Bill(oc) Article: 319560 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <509Ee.15335$aY6.1347@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> <9QqEe.7442$Qi4.989470@news20.bellglobal.com> Subject: Re: Radio transcriptions Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:54:26 GMT I used to have a Garrard 301 motor, Ortofon Tonearm, and a Shure V-15 Type IV cartridge with an elliptical 78 needle. I had about 50 pressings, all of them World Broadcasting, that came from a south sea island during WWII. All of them were music selections. All of them were vertical cut, start inside. I don't think I'm going to pursue this, mainly because I rememeber why I got rid of the ones I had -- lack of space. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message news:9QqEe.7442$Qi4.989470@news20.bellglobal.com... > Curious what player/tonearm you use. I have a few of these, the only > reason I originally bought them was to see something that my SME 3012 was > made to play! > > -- > "Stay calm. Be brave. Wait for the signs." > > regards, > > Frank Johansen > Aurora, Ontario > Article: 319561 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42E2518C.C91DBE5@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Need readable Riders pages References: <1122092313.127237.180280@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:17:48 -0400 Paul, Check your email, I scanned the pages you requested. Regards, Sal Brisindi http://www.numitron.com Paul Dietenberger wrote: > Hi > > NA's scan of Riders vol. 9 Stromberg-Carlson pgs. 9-26 and 9-30 are > pretty much illegible (the pages in between are pretty good.) By any > chance, does anybody have a readable scan of these two pages so I can > start a little work on my SC 245M? I'd appreciate it. > > Thanks much > > Regards, Paul Article: 319562 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:24:24 GMT In article , none@none.com says... > > >Hi All: > I'm an old car nut mostly with a lot of interest but very little >knowledge of tube electronics (or electronics in general) I am in the Tampa > >Steve B. > > Neat Gadget that Mirror.... if the resistors are still correct resistance... and the tube is good... then the only thing left that could be hosing up the curcuit would be the lack of sensitivity of the Photo Cell ... maybe one of our guys can find a suitable replacement?... John k9uwa Article: 319563 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42E2561F.AF9D858B@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: DSI industries? References: <11dmid75rforn05@corp.supernews.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 14:37:38 GMT Uncle Peter wrote: > > "David Axt" wrote in message > news:11dmid75rforn05@corp.supernews.com... > > I just bought (well it was given to me) a Frequency counter from DSI > > Industries of San Diego. Has anybody ever heard of these guys? I am > trying > > (in vain) to find an owner's manual. > > > > Thanks, > > David > > > > > > Did you try here? > > http://www.manualman.com/catalog/news12.htm http://www.big-list.com -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida From garnie[at]sasktel[daught]net Sat Jul 23 23:07:41 EDT 2005 Article: 319564 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Garnie Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Re: Is the hobby dying? Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 10:12:04 -0600 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 26 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-08!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319564 My first set was a Philco 70 bought in 1980 from a 'reputable' wheeler-dealer who said the hum was just from the fluorescent lights in his kitchen. $200 later I find I have the same hum in my own incandescent lit kitchen. It was a number of years later when I fixed the set up and was bitten by the bug - which then leaked over into amateur radio in early 1993. The only thing around here in the hobby that's dying is my check book .... Regards, Garnie On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 03:02:47 GMT, "William R. Walsh" wrote: >Hi! > >The one radio I find myself using rather often is a GE Model 226. This is >the first radio I've collected. > >For the record, I'm 22. I also collect and use IBM PS/2 computers. > >William > Article: 319565 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: GM model 253 cabinet radio on legs Message-ID: <69uEe.471899$cg1.172265@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:22:26 GMT A friend that has an antique/consignment business asked me for help with the pricing of a GM model 253 10 tube radio. She believes the owner is asking too much for the radio ($295). The condition is "fair". The cabinet is in need of finish work (top got wet and the sides have orange pealing like the sun had hit it for a decade or two). The chassis is generally covered with medium rust, broken speaker lead, "coffin" style tubes (not globe). Original GM type speaker. I did not find a tube line up nor was I ready to pull the tubes to see the numbers. A potential buyer offered 150 bucks. It looks great from the front with a nice finish. All the knobs are present and the dial is clear to read. The only similarity it has to the radio at http://archives.radioattic.com/archive_g3.htm#gm is that it is a cabinet style up on legs. It has a neat sliding door that drops to reveal the controls. It would look nice in a home with delicate decorations and a few strategically placed doilies to cover the top ruined finish. So how much would you purchase this radio for? Is it worth the 150 or the 300? I preliminarily recommended she take the 150 to 230 based on restoration needed. Once restored I guess it could fetch 400 more or less. What do you say? Thanks, Paul P. Article: 319566 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" Subject: parts radio? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 12:27:26 -1200 Anyone have need for a parts radio? It is a tube GE Clock/AM radio. It seems to work ok, but may need and probably could use a cleaning and adjusted. Case is about a 7 out of 10 in condition (to me). The clock plastic has a small mark or two. The case has a couple chips out of it on the edges. If you wanted to leave the radio as is, it isn't too too horrible to look at. If you sat it up on a shelf, one would have to look at it good to find the issues, but again, it isn't "perfect". I'm not offering it as a "prized" piece. I figured maybe someone can use the clock movement, tuning cap or other parts to rebuild an exact model OR for some other project. $5 plus shipping. IF you would like to have the parts only and not the case, I'll strip it down out of the case to save on shipping. IF you would like to have the parts only and not the case, I'll strip it down out of the case to save on shipping. E-mail me if interested. This is the "only" ad I will place - so no flames are necessary. I am cleaning the shop out and just thought I'd offer the item to you in this group who may have more use for this than I do. If you don't feel it's worth it, leave a message in here to skip it and I'll strip it down and use the parts myself at some point. Send any interest inquiries to postmaster at the below address. Thanks for your time. - **************************** visit - www.clfurent.com Article: 319567 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <11du9i1bb2nbm31@corp.supernews.com> <1122053228.766080.147180@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <11e3ngujns36rc7@corp.supernews.com> <1122124458.880273.73780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Vintage stereo info? Message-ID: <1122137680.98e55132affb83f52357d91b1d73e051@teranews> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 09:54:39 -0700 believe it or not, the Kenwood 700M (early 70s vintage) was a great amp - I had one from that time until a few years ago when I replaced it with a Martin Logan amp - I still debate whether the small improvement in sound was worth the $$ spent on the new amp. "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1122124458.880273.73780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > Harmon Kardon made some great stuff. The Citation 16 is one of the Holy > Grails of high-powered solid-state amps (excepting exotics, of course). > Luxman, I have a generally negative opinion of them as being well-made > but entirely ho-hum in any other aspect. Phase Linear made the 900 > pound gorillas of solid-state stuff, as well as some nice peripherals. > Of the three, HK made the most user-friendly stuff.... defined by me as > able to be serviced outside of a tech-shop. > > There are sleepers of various brands. AR made a decent little tuner, > and I happen to like their amplifier and receiver. Advent made a nice > little 15-watt receiver with an excellent phono-pre-amp and tuner, > which also is easily serviced. > > Now, going into exotics changes everything. Both of my posts are > "pitched" to consumer-grade equipment that was within the salary range > of a middle-class buyer of the time. NOT audiophool stuff. > > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 319568 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Hagman" Subject: Stromberg Carlson Restoration 140L Complete Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:31:50 -0400 Message-ID: <11e56p76voqe21b@corp.supernews.com> See pics on binaries.... John H. Article: 319569 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Good morning all Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 12:21:40 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > Jeff: > > I don't understand the issue? > > Cost of power? What is it per KWH? Here PA, we are paying between $0.10 > and $0.14 per KWH when all the taxes and charges are included. And, of > course, the more you use, the less you are charged per additional > KWH... go figure. > Availability of power? Do you have useage limits? What are the > penalties if you go over? > AC units are illegal? I can see efficiency requirements, but beyond > that? > Or is there something about the air/climate in Southern California such > that AC is not possible (what you said, BTW)? If this is the case, how > was it legislated? It sucks here, Peter........very long complicated story, but here it goes...... Back in the mid nineties, some dim bulb thought it would be a good idea to de-regulate the energy utilities in California. These same dim bulbs also thought that the only way to do this would be to compel the local power monopolies to divest themselves of all the plants that actually generated the power (most of them got sold to energy concerns in Texas BTW). The thoery was that having the generating capacity in several hands and de-regulating the markets, the power generating utilities would compete against each other and that would result in lower energy costs tro the consumer. Unfortunately, the way it was set up made it very easy for one or more corrupt entities in the supply chain to manipulate prices. Enter Enron.....They devised a scheme to sell energy to itself during periods of peak usage, reducing the amount of energy available and driving prices up. While this was going on, other power generating companies, among them Duke Energy, jumped on the price manipulation bandwagon by scheduling "emergency maintenance shutdowns" of power plants at the most inopportune times. Prices at this time became unpredictable and unstable, spiking up to as much as $100+ per megawatt. Supplies of electrical power became spotty as well, leading to rolling blackouts throughout the state. Gray Davis, California's governor at the time knew something was fishy and asked the California Attorney General and the Bush administration to investigate. Bush, ever the corrupt Texan, refused to do anything, saying "it's California's problem" (never mind that by this time the "problem" was beginning to spread to every western state but Texas). At this phase of deregulation, PG&E, which had become the retailer for the power sold to most of California, still had the maximum price it could charge for a megawatt capped, so during this period of price manipulation they were losing billions of dollars a month. Within six months, they were bankrupt. The rolling blackouts were becoming intolerable, and Governor Davis was under enormous pressure to do something. At the time, California still had a $70 Billion surplus from revenues generated during the dot-com boom. He used almost all that money to cut long term energy deals to buy power at a fixed price that was lower than that being charged at the time, but way higher than it was before de-regulation. At that time the cap that PG&E was operating under was raised, which raised the cost of energy charged to consumers. This stabilized the situation, but we are locked into these fixed prices for a long, long time. There is a rather sad epilog to all this. Shortly after the energy deals were cut, The state of California's Government discovered that it was $32 Billion in the hole. This was a result of idiotic government spending by our legislature, but that gap could have been closed relatively painlessly with our surplus had Davis not been forced to piss it all away on these energy contracts. We are still in the hole, and now our K-12 schools are shit, our roads are shit and everything else that the government typically provides here is shit. The increased energy costs have made our state less competitive and have have sucked BILLIONS in discretionary spending from California consumers every year, so our economy is shit, as well. This is a situation we will not be able to extricate ourselves from for a long, long time. The California Attorney General has continued its investigation, and eventually discovered documents and phone records that showed conclusively that Enron had conspired to fix prices by indulging in a complicated scheme to sell energy to one of its subsidiaries who then sold it back to California at a higher price. It was also found that other plant operators had conspired to reduce gernerating capacity at peak times to kick up prices. In short, it was found that virtually every allegation that Bush was asked to investigate (and refused to do so) was true. As it stands now, Enron owes the state of California about $9 billion in overcharges related to the price-fixing scheme it practiced. Of course, we will never get that now because Enron is bankrupt. Is there any reason at all why Lay, Skilling, Fastow, and all the rest of these clowns shouldn't be publicly raped with barge poles? So, to answer your original question, AC units are not banned here, but in some of the warmer inland areas of California, they may as well be. Unlike your situation, energy cost per KW/hr goes UP the more you use. It makes AC use frighteningly expensive here, even with an extremely energy-efficient home. Brenda Ann mentioned Oregon prices that were fixed at 4.4 per KW/hr. I lived in Oregon about the same time she did and I used to run the AC unit in our house there full blast day and night, only turning it off when it iced up. I would NEVER do that here....If I did, our power bill would be four figures every month, easily. -Scott Article: 319570 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Stromberg Carlson Restoration 140L Complete References: <11e56p76voqe21b@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 19:43:35 GMT John Hagman wrote: > See pics on binaries.... I did. Ya'll done good Yonny. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319571 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 15:56:40 -0400 Message-ID: <3kflskFu1fm6U1@individual.net> References: Steve B. wrote: > Hi All: > I'm an old car nut mostly with a lot of interest but very little > knowledge of tube electronics (or electronics in general) > > One of my cars has an auto dimming mirror which is basically a light > sensor and a relay that feeds a magnet. It has a 12X5 tube that I > have replaced (you can see the device @ > http://c-i-f.ifrance.com/mirrormatic_1959.htm) (not my web page) > > Anyway this one doesn't work. If I manually trip the relay it will > pull the mirror back but nothing I can do will make it work > automatically. This mirror is all but irreplaceable and my electronic > skills aren't anywhere near the level they would need to be to fix it. > Can anyone here recommend someone that would be willing and able to > take a look at it and get it working again for me? I am in the Tampa > area so the closer the better but I will ship anywhere the smart > person is. > > Steve B. i looked at the schematic & come to the conclusion that the 12X4 does not belong there, in fact, the circuit calls for a low voltage triode or pentode (like the ones that were used in the late fifties. a 12X4 is a dual diode that is commonly used as a rectifier & it relies on high plate voltages no less than 200 VDC. i would bet that the circuit calls for a 12K5, in fact, i am sure that it is what it calls for http://www.nj7p.org/Tube1.php?tube=12k5 -- The Shadow Knows Article: 319572 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Biasi" References: <3kflskFu1fm6U1@individual.net> Subject: Re: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:05:50 -0400 "Radio Rambler" wrote in message news:3kflskFu1fm6U1@individual.net... > Steve B. wrote: > >> Hi All: >> I'm an old car nut mostly with a lot of interest but very little >> knowledge of tube electronics (or electronics in general) >> >> One of my cars has an auto dimming mirror which is basically a light >> sensor and a relay that feeds a magnet. It has a 12X5 tube that I >> have replaced (you can see the device @ >> http://c-i-f.ifrance.com/mirrormatic_1959.htm) (not my web page) >> >> Anyway this one doesn't work. If I manually trip the relay it will >> pull the mirror back but nothing I can do will make it work >> automatically. This mirror is all but irreplaceable and my electronic >> skills aren't anywhere near the level they would need to be to fix it. >> Can anyone here recommend someone that would be willing and able to >> take a look at it and get it working again for me? I am in the Tampa >> area so the closer the better but I will ship anywhere the smart >> person is. >> >> Steve B. > > i looked at the schematic & come to the conclusion that the 12X4 does not > belong there, in fact, the circuit calls for a low voltage triode or > pentode (like the ones that were used in the late fifties. > a 12X4 is a dual diode that is commonly used as a rectifier & it relies on > high plate voltages no less than 200 VDC. > i would bet that the circuit calls for a 12K5, in fact, i am sure that it > is > what it calls for > > http://www.nj7p.org/Tube1.php?tube=12k5 > -- > The Shadow Knows Where do you see a 12X4? Article: 319573 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:03:46 -0400 Message-ID: <3kfm9tFtjgjoU1@individual.net> References: Steve B. wrote: > Hi All: > I'm an old car nut mostly with a lot of interest but very little > knowledge of tube electronics (or electronics in general) > > One of my cars has an auto dimming mirror which is basically a light > sensor and a relay that feeds a magnet. It has a 12X5 tube that I > have replaced (you can see the device @ > http://c-i-f.ifrance.com/mirrormatic_1959.htm) (not my web page) > > Anyway this one doesn't work. If I manually trip the relay it will > pull the mirror back but nothing I can do will make it work > automatically. This mirror is all but irreplaceable and my electronic > skills aren't anywhere near the level they would need to be to fix it. > Can anyone here recommend someone that would be willing and able to > take a look at it and get it working again for me? I am in the Tampa > area so the closer the better but I will ship anywhere the smart > person is. > > Steve B. the author of that website is wrong regarding the type of tube used. it IS a 12K4 -- The Shadow Knows From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Sat Jul 23 23:07:43 EDT 2005 Article: 319574 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: parts radio? References: Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 15 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 20:39:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1122151148 66.65.49.245 (Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:39:08 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:39:08 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!feeder1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319574 In article , clfe wrote: > Anyone have need for a parts radio? It is a tube GE Clock/AM radio. Can you email me a picture? An inside shot especially of the clock motor would be most useful. stephanie at gordsven dot com If the clock runs and is what I'm looking for, I might be interested. Thanks :) -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 319575 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: OT: Political rant. Was Re: Good morning all Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 13:29:18 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> David Stinson wrote: > Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > >> Not here it isn't. It's $0.02 for the "baseline", which in my >> case is 316 KWH per month. This month was 945 KWH. Note: This >> is WITHOUT Electric heating, air-conditioning or cooking. > > > Jeff: If you're paying 2 cents a KWH, you should get on your > knees and thank who ever gave you that gift. > I think it's much more likely you've got the decimal off, > seeing as how it's Californicate and all.... > 20 cents would be more like it. Almost certainly correct. Prolly about $0.20 > > And power bills, like telephone bills, are written > to be difficult to understand so they can sneak > all the "oh, by the way..." and "gotcha!" > charges into them without your notice. Why bother fiddle-farting around with calculations of graduated rates? I'll just give you the bottom line for an 1200 sf house with NO AC, NO electric heat and NO electric clothes dryer or water heater either: 741 Killowatt hours used.....Total charges $123.24 That averages out to about $0.16 per KW/hr. And this is in Northern California, where it doesn't get as smokin' hot in the summer as Southern California where Jeff lives. -Scott Article: 319576 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42E2ABAC.4F2B847D@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Need readable Riders pages References: <1122092313.127237.180280@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:42:20 -0400 Anytime! Sal Paul Dietenberger wrote: > Got em. Thanks Sal. They look good. Much appreciated. > > paul Article: 319577 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Radiobar radio/tv?? References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 16:42:19 -0400 Well who could see the tv with everyone mixing their drinks??? Ken Phil Nelson wrote: > Has anyone ever heard of a Radiobar television? A visitor to my website > provided photos of a set purchased from an estate in El Dorado, CA. (I > posted them in alt.binaries.pictures.radio .) > > My initial reaction was "Frankenradio." I thought Radiobars dated from the > 1930s. And perhaps somebody just bolted a Radiobar top onto a later > television cabinet. On the other hand, what do I know . . . . > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > Article: 319578 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1122147839.771165.55630@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: RCA Radiola Model 100 Speaker part?? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 20:42:17 GMT "David" wrote in message news:1122147839.771165.55630@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... Hello everyone. I am working on my RCA Radiola Model 100 Speaker and need help in identifying a part. http://antiqueradios.com/albums/Speakers/IMG_0292.thumb.jpg The speaker I have is encased inside a large metal oval. I have found two problems with this speaker. First the two pin wires are broken and I will have to replace them. I jumped these wires and tried the "click" test. Nothing was heard. I found a small cylinder with three wires mounted behind the speaker magnet. It is about 2 inches long and 1 ½ inch in diameter. It looks like a small transformer or choke. I have no continuity between any of the wires. Does anyone have an idea as to what this might be? I have tried unsuccessfully to find a schematic for this speaker. Any help is appreciated. If it is identified what can I use to replace it with? Thank you for your time. David Would it be the same network as in the 100A speaker? http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/242/M0040242.pdf jim menning Article: 319579 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" Subject: Grigsby-Grunow Majestic Model 70-B - barely there Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 20:46:35 GMT I've finished rebuilding the power supply on my Majestic, and after rewiring the speaker and interconnect harnesses, brought the radio up on my variac. I am getting a local station very faintly and distorted on the speaker, but nothing else. No hum, no smoke either. Filament voltages are where they should be, but the all three B+ are high. Here are the voltages that I'm seeing: Red (260v B+): 350v Yellow (96v B+): 135v Green (50v B+): 65v Voltage drop across field coil is 223v. I have not touched the potted caps in the chassis yet, as I'm not sure which ones are which. None of them are marked. There are three cap boxes, two with two terminals, and one with three. Before I start tracing out wiring, does anyone know which ones are which values? I'm assuming that these are the .5 mf caps, but I want to be sure. I either measure an open or very high pf values on all except one, which measures a short. ------------------ Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY USA http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 319580 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" References: Subject: Re: parts radio? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 17:03:30 -1200 Can do.... as I said, so far as I know, all does "work"... seemed to anyway for the period of time I had it on. The only problem I had, was first turning it on near my lap top. The radio was bombarded with hash. Once I went a few feet away, picked up all sorts of stations. Will forward your address to my mailbox and get the picture to you soon. Thanks "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:slrnde5anb.t36.stephanie@home3.gordsven.com... > In article , > clfe wrote: > >> Anyone have need for a parts radio? It is a tube GE Clock/AM radio. > > Can you email me a picture? An inside shot especially of the clock motor > would be most useful. > > stephanie at gordsven dot com > > If the clock runs and is what I'm looking for, I might be interested. > > Thanks :) > -- > Stephanie Weil > New York City, U.S.A. Article: 319581 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Bumble Bees Decoder Message-ID: <1xyEe.56951$iU.35500@lakeread05> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 17:20:57 -0400 A must see. I bought this thing in my early teens, when I thought this type capacitor was going to take over the world. I never used it, what happened??? Ken http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=7338818065 Article: 319582 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: Good morning all [OT?] References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:50:34 GMT Scott W. Harvey wrote: > Is there any reason at all why Lay, Skilling, Fastow, and all the > rest of these clowns shouldn't be publicly raped with barge poles? Why, yes, now that you ask, there *is* a reason... ...and it has something to do with Kenny boy being W's good buddy. (although the other two may end up being the sacrificial goats). Isn't it great that, on the one hand, they tell us they are the world's greatest executive, worthy of multi-million dollar salaries and yet when they get caught with their hand in the cookie jar, they turn in to Sergeant Schultz-- " I know nossing, I see nossing!" Maybe so, if somebody was stealing pencils from the supply room, but money in billion dollar chunks? Piles of money so big a blind man could see them? P.S. I just loved it when, about a year ago, there was a film clip of Mrs. Kenny on the evening news, blubbering and boo-hooing that they were down to their last vacation condo. Poor babies... Article: 319583 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: OT: Political rant. Was Re: Good morning all References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:30:00 GMT Scott W. Harvey wrote: > 741 Killowatt hours used.....Total charges $123.24 > > That averages out to about $0.16 per KW/hr. And this is in Northern > California, where it doesn't get as smokin' hot in the summer as > Southern California where Jeff lives. Oh, my, you Californians with your hair-pulling over your electric bill. I just gotta weep for your poor, poor situation. Well, welcome to Texas, my man, where your electric bill in July is half a house payment, and that's at 12 cents per KWH. Here's my actual electric bill, for a dinky little place, sans account numbers, of course. Read and stop moaning: ----------------- ACCOUNT: ***-****-**-* Statement Date: 07/08/05 Meter Number: ********* Rate: Residential Current Meter Reading (07/07/05) 81576 Previous Meter Reading (06/07/05) 78888 Kilowatt-hours Used 2688 Energy Charge (2688 kwh) $320.14 Base Customer Charge $5.34 Sales Tax $6.51 TOTAL AMOUNT DUE: $331.99 And you thought I was exaggerating... Dave S. Article: 319584 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: OT: Political rant. Was Re: Good morning all References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:38:41 GMT David Stinson wrote: > Oh, my, you Californians with your hair-pulling over your > electric bill. I just gotta weep for your poor, > poor situation. Well, welcome to Texas, my man, > where your electric bill in July is half > a house payment, and that's at 12 cents per KWH. > Kilowatt-hours Used 2688 > TOTAL AMOUNT DUE: $331.99 > > And you thought I was exaggerating... So, what are you running that sucks over 3 times the amount of juice I'm running out here in california? You're not air conditioining all those intermodal containers full of command sets are you? Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" From philsvintageradios<----- remove ----- Sat Jul 23 23:07:46 EDT 2005 Article: 319585 of rec.antiques.radio+phono X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.86.62.131 From: phil < philsvintageradios<----- remove ----->@yahoo.ca > Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: RCA Radiola Model 100 Speaker part?? Message-ID: References: <1122147839.771165.55630@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 22 Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 23:27:24 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.144.74 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw1no 1122161244 64.59.144.74 (Sat, 23 Jul 2005 17:27:24 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 17:27:24 MDT Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.vt.edu!news.moat.net!news-out.newsfeeds.com!propagator3-LAX.newsfeeds.com!news-in.usenet.com!pd7cy1no!shaw.ca!pd7tw1no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319585 On 23 Jul 2005 12:43:59 -0700, "David" wrote: >Hello everyone. I am working on my RCA Radiola Model 100 Speaker I don't know if mine is the same as yours, but I have two 100 B speakers .( the one that looks like a big eyeball) Both of mine have a coil, I don't know if it had any capacitors. It was glued to the speaker frame.and wrapped with paper or cardboard , It is not metal like this one. The reason I mention it is because of what happened to me. In shipping The coils glue/ cardboard snapped loose, dangled on the wires, and smashed the cone. I have seen one other 100 B with this problem. If you can spot this coil , take time to tie it with wire or a tie wrap or something, so it can't become a battering ram for the cone. Phil Article: 319586 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 20:14:03 -0400 Message-ID: <3kg4v4Fu8d2gU1@individual.net> References: <3kflskFu1fm6U1@individual.net> Tom Biasi wrote: > Where do you see a 12X4? in both the OP & the webpage that was refferenced -- The Shadow Knows Article: 319587 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 20:15:58 -0400 Message-ID: <3kg52nFu8d2gU2@individual.net> References: <3kflskFu1fm6U1@individual.net> Tom Biasi wrote: > > "Radio Rambler" wrote in message > news:3kflskFu1fm6U1@individual.net... >> Steve B. wrote: >> >>> Hi All: >>> I'm an old car nut mostly with a lot of interest but very little >>> knowledge of tube electronics (or electronics in general) >>> >>> One of my cars has an auto dimming mirror which is basically a light >>> sensor and a relay that feeds a magnet. It has a 12X5 tube that I >>> have replaced (you can see the device @ >>> http://c-i-f.ifrance.com/mirrormatic_1959.htm) (not my web page) >>> >>> Anyway this one doesn't work. If I manually trip the relay it will >>> pull the mirror back but nothing I can do will make it work >>> automatically. This mirror is all but irreplaceable and my electronic >>> skills aren't anywhere near the level they would need to be to fix it. >>> Can anyone here recommend someone that would be willing and able to >>> take a look at it and get it working again for me? I am in the Tampa >>> area so the closer the better but I will ship anywhere the smart >>> person is. >>> >>> Steve B. >> >> i looked at the schematic & come to the conclusion that the 12X4 does not >> belong there, in fact, the circuit calls for a low voltage triode or >> pentode (like the ones that were used in the late fifties. >> a 12X4 is a dual diode that is commonly used as a rectifier & it relies >> on high plate voltages no less than 200 VDC. >> i would bet that the circuit calls for a 12K5, in fact, i am sure that it >> is >> what it calls for >> >> http://www.nj7p.org/Tube1.php?tube=12k5 >> -- >> The Shadow Knows > Where do you see a 12X4? sorry, my mistake -- The Shadow Knows Article: 319588 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1122154350.293002.84120@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122159126.362692.153660@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FA - Vintage Western Electric Cradle Phone Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 20:31:24 -0400 "No longer amused" wrote in message news:1122159126.362692.153660@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Not any More wrote: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6417860907&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 > > Skippy You're starting all over again. Same ol' shit, deja vu. Chill and take a pill. Article: 319589 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 20:29:44 -0400 Message-ID: <3kg5siFtsdbkU1@individual.net> References: <3kflskFu1fm6U1@individual.net> Tom Biasi wrote: > > "Radio Rambler" wrote in message > news:3kflskFu1fm6U1@individual.net... >> Steve B. wrote: >> >>> Hi All: >>> I'm an old car nut mostly with a lot of interest but very little >>> knowledge of tube electronics (or electronics in general) >>> >>> One of my cars has an auto dimming mirror which is basically a light >>> sensor and a relay that feeds a magnet. It has a 12X5 tube that I >>> have replaced (you can see the device @ >>> http://c-i-f.ifrance.com/mirrormatic_1959.htm) (not my web page) >>> >>> Anyway this one doesn't work. If I manually trip the relay it will >>> pull the mirror back but nothing I can do will make it work >>> automatically. This mirror is all but irreplaceable and my electronic >>> skills aren't anywhere near the level they would need to be to fix it. >>> Can anyone here recommend someone that would be willing and able to >>> take a look at it and get it working again for me? I am in the Tampa >>> area so the closer the better but I will ship anywhere the smart >>> person is. >>> >>> Steve B. >> >> i looked at the schematic & come to the conclusion that the 12X4 does not >> belong there, in fact, the circuit calls for a low voltage triode or >> pentode (like the ones that were used in the late fifties. >> a 12X4 is a dual diode that is commonly used as a rectifier & it relies >> on high plate voltages no less than 200 VDC. >> i would bet that the circuit calls for a 12K5, in fact, i am sure that it >> is >> what it calls for >> >> http://www.nj7p.org/Tube1.php?tube=12k5 >> -- >> The Shadow Knows > Where do you see a 12X4? that 12X5 must be a really oddball tube. it does not show up in any of the online tube databases & it it is not listed in my 1960 RCA rube manual. however, i do have a hunch that the 12K5 i previously mentioned is close. i have never seen a 12X5 -- The Shadow Knows Article: 319590 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Good morning all From: Larry References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 20:37:06 -0400 "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in news:dbu4u0031l@news2.newsguy.com: > Brenda Ann mentioned Oregon prices that were fixed at 4.4 per KW/hr. Nuclear power in South Carolina from SCANA (SC Electric and Gouge) is 8.9c/KWh in Charleston. Wish I could buy 4.4c power...(snif). Georgia Power and Light has the cheapest power...or used to. Look around and see what they're paying in Eastern GA. It was 2.3c/KWh last time I found it, but that was a while ago. -- Larry Article: 319591 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Radiobar radio/tv?? From: lherault@bu.edu References: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 00:41:54 GMT Message-ID: <42e2e433$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net> As far as I know, the company that originally made the Radiobar is still in business in California. They make inexpensive furniture, maybe office furniture, so it is conceivable that they made a "radiobar" for TVs. Ron L Article: 319592 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 20:46:28 -0400 Message-ID: <3kg6ruFtes53U1@individual.net> References: Steve B. wrote: > Hi All: > I'm an old car nut mostly with a lot of interest but very little > knowledge of tube electronics (or electronics in general) > > One of my cars has an auto dimming mirror which is basically a light > sensor and a relay that feeds a magnet. It has a 12X5 tube that I > have replaced (you can see the device @ > http://c-i-f.ifrance.com/mirrormatic_1959.htm) (not my web page) > > Anyway this one doesn't work. If I manually trip the relay it will > pull the mirror back but nothing I can do will make it work > automatically. This mirror is all but irreplaceable and my electronic > skills aren't anywhere near the level they would need to be to fix it. > Can anyone here recommend someone that would be willing and able to > take a look at it and get it working again for me? I am in the Tampa > area so the closer the better but I will ship anywhere the smart > person is. > > Steve B. are you sure that it calls for a 12X5. the schematic has it marked as a 12K5. i cant seem to find any info on a 12X5, however, the data for the 12K5 appears to co-incide with the schematic. -- The Shadow Knows Article: 319593 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 21:01:48 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: OT: Political rant. Was Re: Good morning all References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <4bb95$42e2e882$4232bd86$6421@COQUI.NET> Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > David Stinson wrote: > >> Oh, my, you Californians with your hair-pulling over your >> electric bill. I just gotta weep for your poor, >> poor situation. Well, welcome to Texas, my man, >> where your electric bill in July is half >> a house payment, and that's at 12 cents per KWH. > > >> Kilowatt-hours Used 2688 > > >> TOTAL AMOUNT DUE: $331.99 >> >> And you thought I was exaggerating... > > > So, what are you running that sucks over 3 times the amount > of juice I'm running out here in california? > > You're not air conditioining all those intermodal containers > full of command sets are you? > > Jeff > Wha? 460kwh used last month here in the Tropics for a family of 4 @ 16c/kwh. What the heck are you doing to consume almost 6! times what I do? And I'm not some geek with special $15 light bulbs running around cutting off switches. Big fridge and two freezers and I stay up all night in the shack surrounded by 100w bulbs :) Gas cooking. I'd suggest you check into some 'conservation' measures, Dave. That level of consumption sounds kinda piggish. -ex Article: 319594 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1122147839.771165.55630@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1122160124.617345.40400@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: RCA Radiola Model 100 Speaker part?? Message-ID: <_RBEe.557$8g.150@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 01:08:10 GMT "David" wrote in message news:1122160124.617345.40400@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hello Jim. Thank you for responding so quick. The part looks like > the > picture in Riders Vol. 1 pg 55. A choke with two filter capacitors. > Still no continuity between "L" and "M". Will have to dig out my > Model > 100A and look at it. Will also clean out the part and try to find > out > the values for the parts inside. Again thank you. > > David > You're welcome David, but I've just found some more information. I just found the 100 in the RCA manual, it is NOT the same as the 100A network. I'll post the scan at alt.binaries.pictures.radio and will email it directly to you and anyone else that asks for it (many here are binary deprived). jim menning Article: 319595 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Good morning all From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 02:40:53 GMT In article , NOT_MY_REAL@email.com says... > > > >-Scott I seem to detect that you aren't too happy with Bush over the CA power problem.... however... seems to me that all the CA State Gubmint Officials that were in power during all the time that caused this big time mess that you guys now are seeing.... weren't all of those CA officials Democrats?... thought that was about all you had in that whole state? Seems to me that perhaps you should be blaming the ones who created your problem... rather than complaining because Bush wouldn't Investigate your problem.... doesn't need investigating it seems to me... just needs to be fixed.... just build yourselves a few Nuke Plants on some of those Gubimnt Military Bases that they are shutting down.... should solve your problems I would think... John k9uwa Article: 319596 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Any News on Bill Turner? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 02:48:06 GMT In article , arc5@ix.netcom.com says... > > >Forgive me if I missed an earlier report. >Anyone heard how he's doing? UpDate on Bill Turner.... Jean just had a nice hour chat with Bill's girlfriend Sally.. Bill is doing better.... but still in the ReHab center.. figure another couple of weeks it sounds like before he will get to come home... Speech is coming along well... Sally says that actually he now talks a bit better than he did prior to this stroke.. Still can't get up and walk by himself is the reason he is still in the place... says he sort of likes it there... only two guys in the rehab unit... and a lot of ladies... Any of you that want to call Bill ... he appreciates the calls and the chance to yak with the guys.. please call him after 3PM CDT as by then he will be back in his room after the therapy sessions... Phone number at the ReHab center is 636 - 947 - 5532 and ask for Bill Turner.... John k9uwa Article: 319597 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Good morning all Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 20:49:23 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:VcDEe.200733$nG6.190633@attbi_s22... > In article , NOT_MY_REAL@email.com says... >> >> >> >>-Scott > > I seem to detect that you aren't too happy with Bush over the CA power > problem.... however... seems to me that all the CA State Gubmint Officials > that were in power during all the time that caused this big time > mess that you guys now are seeing.... weren't all of those CA officials > Democrats?... thought that was about all you had in that whole state? > > Seems to me that perhaps you should be blaming the ones who created > your problem... rather than complaining because Bush wouldn't Investigate > your problem.... doesn't need investigating it seems to me... just > needs to be fixed.... > > just build yourselves a few Nuke Plants on some of those Gubimnt > Military Bases that they are shutting down.... should solve your > problems I would think... > bush won. now start gettin over it.. randy Article: 319598 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:53:30 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Any News on Bill Turner? References: Message-ID: John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > Phone number at the ReHab center is 636 - 947 - 5532 and ask > for Bill Turner.... > > John k9uwa Wrong number? -Bill Article: 319599 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: Political rant. Was Re: Good morning all From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 02:54:13 GMT In article , NOT_MY_REAL@email.com says... > > > >-Scott > something like 2500 sf here ... and this last month has been reasonably warm... plus one whole lot of 99% humidity... last light bill was $90 ..... our cheapest monthly bills spring and fall .... no heat and no AC ... about 65 bucks... highest in summer will be around 125 bucks... and in the winter it can go almost that much in December from all the Xmas lights .. Heat system is Natural Gas... but has electric controls and fan.... normal winter light bills $80 bucks or so... Jan/Feb/March ... a whole lot cheaper as we aren't here then!.. John k9uwa Article: 319600 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:54:43 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Good morning all References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <6694c$42e302f8$4232bd86$15582@COQUI.NET> xrongor wrote: > > > > bush won. now start gettin over it.. > > randy Yeah. And its all Bush's fault! -ex Article: 319601 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Stromberg Carlson Restoration 140L Complete From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <11e56p76voqe21b@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 02:56:52 GMT In article <11e56p76voqe21b@corp.supernews.com>, yonny@att.net says... > > >See pics on binaries.... > >John H. > > SUper Nice John... John k9uwa Article: 319602 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: Subject: Re: Re: Is the hobby dying? Message-ID: <3JDEe.7398$dU3.3334@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 03:15:11 GMT Is hot rod'ing or stock car racing dying, or even kite flying?! I don't think so. The hobby of radio collecting and restoring dying? The Russians, Chinese, Slovaks, and the Serbs don't think so. They're still producing vacuum tubes by the thousands to satisfy musicians (guitar amps), audiophiles, and restorers like us! To spread the hobby, give one of those radios as a present that you own to some potential old radio enthusiast. Omer "Garnie" wrote in message news:i2r4e1lksce1i4m9ohn7thli9jku79lrft@4ax.com... > > My first set was a Philco 70 bought in 1980 from a 'reputable' > wheeler-dealer > who said the hum was just from the fluorescent lights in his kitchen. $200 > later I find I have the same hum in my own incandescent lit kitchen. It > was a > number of years later when I fixed the set up and was bitten by the bug - > which > then leaked over into amateur radio in early 1993. The only thing around > here > in the hobby that's dying is my check book .... > > Regards, > Garnie > > > > On Fri, 22 Jul 2005 03:02:47 GMT, "William R. Walsh" > wrote: > >>Hi! >> >>The one radio I find myself using rather often is a GE Model 226. This is >>the first radio I've collected. >> >>For the record, I'm 22. I also collect and use IBM PS/2 computers. >> >>William >> > Article: 319603 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: OT: Political rant. Was Re: Good morning all Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:27:37 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:ppDEe.200685$xm3.125975@attbi_s21... > In article , NOT_MY_REAL@email.com says... > > > > > > > >-Scott > > > > something like 2500 sf here ... and this last month has been > reasonably warm... plus one whole lot of 99% humidity... last > light bill was $90 ..... our cheapest monthly bills spring and > fall .... no heat and no AC ... about 65 bucks... highest in summer > will be around 125 bucks... and in the winter it can go almost that > much in December from all the Xmas lights .. Heat system is Natural > Gas... but has electric controls and fan.... normal winter light > bills $80 bucks or so... > > Were it not for splitting our energy consumption between three meters, our energy bill for June would have been ~$525 (equivalent) Because we DO split among three meters, it was only ~$238.70 (equivalent) This for 1215 KwH Article: 319604 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Good morning all From: Larry References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6694c$42e302f8$4232bd86$15582@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 23:37:03 -0400 -ex- wrote in news:6694c$42e302f8$4232bd86$15582@COQUI.NET: > Yeah. And its all Bush's fault! > Sounds like Air America. According to them, Bush is responsible for the Spanish-American War, long before he was born!....(c; Air America is great entertainment.....as long as you recognize it IS entertainment. What I can't figure out is AA is supposed to be all about liberals. But, alas, MANY liberals are BLACK! All I hear on AA are Jews. There's more blacks on Neil Boortz' show.... -- Larry Article: 319605 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: Rauland/(Zenith?) kit TV? Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:21:45 -0500 Message-ID: References: <2uydnZIKfdgAcEPfRVn-gQ@giganews.com> <1121917104.928980.154990@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4JudnZMox47XRELfRVn-iw@comcast.com> <1121971379.507825.181040@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9dq2e1ppa716optbmqb50k12j6bbgdmt7o@4ax.com> On Sat, 23 Jul 2005 05:27:36 GMT Steve B. wrote: >My real point to posting here was about the kit TV's though. Does any >one make something like it today? When I was a boy I wanted one so >bad I could taste it but Momma always said I would kill my fool self >with it. I have searched for them on and off over the years on e-bay >but never seen anything that was complete and affordable. I see them, usually already built, popping up occasionally on ebay and sometimes on the various newsgroups. They are generally pretty cheap, because you will have to go and pick them up. >Would one of these kits still work after all these years in storage? >Meaning would the original caps, resistors, etc still be good or would >they need to be replaced same as is needed with the older radios? Regardless of whether they were built or still in kit form, I would expect them to need some caps replaced. Resistors should be fine. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 319606 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <11du9i1bb2nbm31@corp.supernews.com> <1122053228.766080.147180@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <11e3ngujns36rc7@corp.supernews.com> <1122124458.880273.73780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1122137680.98e55132affb83f52357d91b1d73e051@teranews> <1122165955.698729.194570@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Vintage stereo info? Message-ID: <1122177216.ce6afffdbf9d47b30ecbb6dd0ae36be3@teranews> Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 20:53:35 -0700 I was very careful to pick a specific amp - the 700M (or the 700 without the M) was a 350 watt per channel power amp that was quite good for its day - I kept mine under a book shelf (why look at a power amp), though it did have VU meters (which I kept turned off) - it drove my AR-3 speakers nicely - the phase linear 1400 watt amp sounded just a tad better. 30 years later when I bought the martin logan power amp to replace it, it was still running well and doing its job - the Marantz 7T preamp that I used with it, on the other hand, had gone bad in one channel (lots of noise, poor gain) - replacing the marantz with a modern high end pre-amp made a huge difference (but I had to give up the EQ control) -- I actually prefer the controls on the marantz to the controls on my mark levinson preamp, but then again, I bought it for sound. As an interesting aside, given the thread on electicity costs - during the "enron sumer", I discovered that the stereo, when OFF, used as much power as the rest of my house (about 250 - 300 watts continuous). So, I added a relay to REALLY turn it off, and my electic bill dropped by half "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1122165955.698729.194570@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > William: > > I deliberately left Pacific Rim equipment our out of the mix. But, for > the record: > > Yes, it tends to be well made. It tends to operate as advertized. > > However, and as a rule: > > Much is expended on eyewash... bells, whistles, lights and knobs that > have no audible function. > Seldom do items stand out in any significant way. The functional > equivalent of Wonder Bread. Pretty, but no "there" there. For David's > purposes, he should avoid Pacific Rim stuff as if it were plutonium. He > will learn nothing by it and likely have no adventures with it. > > On the other hand, if he really-really-really wants a _vanilla_ > experience with Vintage Equipment, by all means go with Pacific Rim. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 319607 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: Political rant. Was Re: Good morning all From: Larry References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4bb95$42e2e882$4232bd86$6421@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 23:55:07 -0400 -ex- wrote in news:4bb95$42e2e882$4232bd86$6421@COQUI.NET: > Wha? 460kwh used last month here in the Tropics for a family of 4 @ > 16c/kwh. What the heck are you doing to consume almost 6! times what > I do? > > I was sitting here answering some fan mail this morning when (CLICK) happened down the hall. Hmm...(shrug). A few minutes later I noticed the temp was rising so went to adjust the thermostat on my ancient 1981 GE Weathertron heat pump. Oops...its airhandler was already running but there's warm air coming out of the floor vents. Something is amiss.... The big double 30A 240VAC breaker was tripped so I reset it...HUMMMMMM! (CLICK). Oh, he didn't like that at all. Took my DVM out to the outside unit and pulled the disconnect link. WOW! That compressor is HOT! Way too hot to touch! Long story short....it was LOCKED....as in permanently. Well, it's really way past its primetime, now what do I do on a SATURDAY? Unwilling to part with $2200-2500 today, I took the easy way out and am amazed at how far window units have come in the last few years. I paid Lowe's hardware warehouse $138 for a couple (2) 8000 BTu Frigidaire 115VAC window units. They only pull 6.4A, now...EER 10.8! The tiny little compressors can't possibly cool anything, can they? Oh, they CAN! Got them home and put the first one in my parrot room where the little monsters (Zeke and Roger-Roger) are imprisoned, willingly. About 10 minutes after the simple assembly, there's 48F air pouring out of this little box hung in the window! I put the second one in my bedroom and it took little time to make it cool. Hmm...timing the watt-hour meter rotating around outside and comparing it with my neighbor's CH&A in a similar house next door's spin rate this is gonna be cheaper than I thought! Took a lunch break and took the stepvan with me back to Lowe's for another one...same unit. It takes a little while getting used to the fan speed adjusting itself as the pump comes on and off...In auto-mode the fan runs at 10% (on the LED panel display in fan speed) until it needs more heat transfer, then it steps up and the little efficient compressor blinks the lights cranking up. Then, after the compressor cuts off, it slows back to a tolerably quiet speed. Running full bore the air noise is quite noticable, more so than the old heat pump was, but not objectionable. The parrots have been trying to talk the unit in their room into a romantic disgusting mating dance most all day. They've been cooing to it, then making angry noises at it, then making the same exact sound the fan motor makes while it's running on high. They love mechanical noises to mimick, anyways. Zeke, the Yellow Nape Amazon can do a perfect imitation of the telephone ringing. When my step daughter was a teenager, of course like Pavlov's dogs, she'd run to answer the phone in her room, only to be met with the dialtone on landline. Blonde....all the way...(c; I think a little Zone management with these guys is gonna save me some bucks. I'm no longer cooling the underfloor space the ductwork on the heat pump occupied, so that will drop the heat load a good bit. Well, time will tell in next month's bill. It's 70F in here with about 15% duty cycle on only one 8000 BTu unit, at the moment at midnight. It's still 80F outside. -- Larry Article: 319608 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Farewell to a dear friend... Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 04:32:28 GMT [ Shamelessly stolen from somewhere else...] Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old friend, Mr. Common Sense. Mr. Sense had been with us for many years. No one knows for sure how old he was since his birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red tape. He will be remembered as having cultivated such value lessons as knowing when to come in out of the rain, why the early bird gets the worm and that life isn't always fair. Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial policies (don't spend more than you earn) and reliable parenting strategies (adults, not kids, are in charge). His health began to rapidly deteriorate when well intentioned but overbearing regulations were set in place. Reports of a six-year-old boy charged with sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens suspended from school for using mouthwash after lunch; and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly student, only worsened his condition. Mr. Sense declined even further when schools were required to get parental consent to administer aspirin to a student; but, could not inform the parents when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an abortion. Finally, Common Sense lost the will to live as the Ten Commandments became contraband; churches became businesses; and criminals received better treatment than their victims. Common Sense finally gave up the ghost after a woman failed to realize that a steaming cup of coffee was hot, she spilled a bit in her lap, and was awarded a huge financial settlement. Common Sense was preceded in death by his parents, Truth and Trust, his wife, Discretion; his daughter, Responsibility; and his son, Reason. He is survived by two stepbrothers; My Rights and Ima Whiner. Not many attended his funeral because so few realized he was gone. If you still remember him, pass this on; if not, join the majority and do nothing. -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319609 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Any News on Bill Turner? References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 04:42:59 GMT John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > UpDate on Bill Turner.... > Jean just had a nice hour chat with Bill's girlfriend Sally.. > > Bill is doing better.... but still in the ReHab center.. figure > another couple of weeks it sounds like before he will get to come > home... And now, for a reminder about "stuff." (I post this regularly on the "QCWA" reflector.) Time to talk to your lawyer, and your friends. Pick an excutor you TRUST and detail what you want to happen to your stuff when you're "done with it." Make sure you have a will, properly executed and where people can find it. Otherwise, everything you've worked so long for will end up on the curb or as land fill. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319610 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <1xyEe.56951$iU.35500@lakeread05> Subject: Re: Bumble Bees Decoder Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 04:51:25 GMT I think you might mean: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7338818065 The other goes to a bidder listing. Article: 319611 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Good morning all Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2005 22:56:31 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > In article , NOT_MY_REAL@email.com says... > >> >> >>-Scott > > > I seem to detect that you aren't too happy with Bush over the CA power > problem.... however... seems to me that all the CA State Gubmint Officials > that were in power during all the time that caused this big time > mess that you guys now are seeing.... weren't all of those CA officials > Democrats?... Uhh.....No. This power deregulation scheme was concieved during the administration of Pete Wilson, a Republican. He thought it was a good idea at the time and was a big proponent of the plan. To his credit, Mr. Wilson has gone on record as saying it was a mistake. (For those who haven't been counting, 3 out of the last 4 California governors have been Republicans, and from a geographic standpoint California was predominantly "red" in the last election. So much for the idea that California is a hotbed of liberalism where Republicans need not apply) > > Seems to me that perhaps you should be blaming the ones who created > your problem... Read my post....Did I not mention Lay, Skilling, Fastow, Enron, and Duke Energy, among others? > rather than complaining because Bush wouldn't Investigate > your problem.... doesn't need investigating it seems to me... At the time, it did. There was a lot of suspicious behavior but no smoking gun. Had the big guns been brought out earlier, California might have gotten some of its money back. It's not like Bush had anything better to do. 9/11 hadn't happened yet and Dubya's poll approval ratings were dropping like a stone. Let me put it another way....Mr. Bush was willing to immediately sign legislation and spend millions of taxpayer dollars authorizing a special session of Congress in a vain attempt to save the life of one human vegetable in Florida's right-to-life dog-and-pony show. However, when it came to a crisis that affected the lives of 70 million people in seven western states and the largest economy in North America, Mr. Bush was not willing to lift even one finger in assistance. That's leadership for ya....NOT! Mr. Bush may not have been the cause of this fiasco, but his inaction speaks volumes about who was pulling his strings. > just > needs to be fixed.... How? Enron is done....There's nothing left of it worth having. > > just build yourselves a few Nuke Plants on some of those Gubimnt > Military Bases that they are shutting down.... should solve your > problems I would think... Nukes won't solve anybody's problems (unless you're taking about powering satellites in deep space-they work very well for that). Take a look at the cost of everything nuclear from the cradle to the grave, and then tell me how it makes economic sense. Remember, Three Mile Island and tree huggers weren't the ones that killed Nuclear Power. It was the Nuclear industry's own outlandish cost overruns and poor reliability that did it in. -Scott Article: 319612 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "J.Koning" References: <1122165622.465073.304340@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Funke W18 tube Tester Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 08:43:28 +0200 Message-ID: <42e33874$0$7138$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> "Jiri Placek" wrote in message news:1122165622.465073.304340@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... Does someone please have calibration procedure? Thanks Jiri Placek Boyertown, PA° Some info here : http://www.jogis-roehrenbude.de/Roehren-Geschichtliches/Roe-Pruefer/Funke-W11/W11.htm Scroll down for user & service manual (German). Regards, Jan. Article: 319613 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "J.Koning" References: <1122165622.465073.304340@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Funke W18 tube Tester Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 08:56:31 +0200 Message-ID: <42e33b8d$0$7240$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> "Jiri Placek" wrote in message news:1122165622.465073.304340@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... Does someone please have calibration procedure? Thanks Jiri Placek Boyertown, PA° Sorry, misread the type number in the previous post, here's the W18 : http://www.jogis-roehrenbude.de/Roehren-Geschichtliches/Roe-Pruefer/Funke-W18/W18.htm Regards, Jan. Article: 319614 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Funke W18 tube Tester References: <1122165622.465073.304340@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <42e33b8d$0$7240$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: <15HEe.1681$vf.1408@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 07:05:33 GMT J.Koning wrote: > http://www.jogis-roehrenbude.de/Roehren-Geschichtliches/Roe-Pruefer/Funke-W18/W18.htm Oh man, dat's one FINE looking tester. Thanks for the link. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319615 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: OT: Political rant. Was Re: Good morning all Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 00:59:32 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> David Stinson wrote: > Scott W. Harvey wrote: > > >> 741 Killowatt hours used.....Total charges $123.24 >> >> That averages out to about $0.16 per KW/hr. And this is in Northern >> California, where it doesn't get as smokin' hot in the summer as >> Southern California where Jeff lives. > > > Oh, my, you Californians with your hair-pulling over your > electric bill. I just gotta weep for your poor, > poor situation. Well, welcome to Texas, my man, > where your electric bill in July is half > a house payment, and that's at 12 cents per KWH. > Here's my actual electric bill, > for a dinky little place, > sans account numbers, of course. > Read and stop moaning: > ----------------- > > ACCOUNT: ***-****-**-* > Statement Date: 07/08/05 > Meter Number: ********* > Rate: Residential > Current Meter Reading (07/07/05) 81576 > Previous Meter Reading (06/07/05) 78888 > Kilowatt-hours Used 2688 > Energy Charge (2688 kwh) $320.14 > Base Customer Charge $5.34 > Sales Tax $6.51 > > TOTAL AMOUNT DUE: $331.99 > > And you thought I was exaggerating... Dave, If you lived in California, your bill for consuming the same energy shown above would be $543.66 using PG&E's graduated rate tables. It's no wonder people around here hate Enron....... -Scott Article: 319616 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Good morning all Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 02:22:15 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6694c$42e302f8$4232bd86$15582@COQUI.NET> >> bush won. now start gettin over it.. >> >> randy > > Yeah. And its all Bush's fault! beavis or butt-head. not much of a choice... randy Article: 319617 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Any News on Bill Turner? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:44:39 GMT In article , exray@coqui.net says... > > >John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > > >> Phone number at the ReHab center is 636 - 947 - 5532 and ask >> for Bill Turner.... >> >> John k9uwa > >Wrong number? > >-Bill PHooey..... yes..... that I think is the room number but it doesn't dial in correctly.... CORRECT NUMBER for Bill T 1- 636- 947 - 5000 and ask for Bill T in room 532 thanks for correction Bill... John k9uwa Article: 319618 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Any News on Bill Turner? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: <5mLEe.203545$nG6.155894@attbi_s22> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:56:49 GMT In article , jangus@socal.rr.com says... > > >Otherwise, everything you've worked so long for will end up >on the curb or as land fill. > >Jeff Jeff has this one right on the Button... hate to think of all the local widows that we have had to try to fumble through getting rid of the Old Man's STUFF ... All of us tend to not want to let go of our "Stuff" whatever that stuff might be... We have another local situation here with another old Ham Buddy that just passed away a few weeks ago... this guy was a dealer in Test Equipment .... had a lot of contacts and picked up all sorts of stuff from locally Magnavox and ITT .... Billy did a HamFest almost every weekend someplace.... he has a large barn and a couple of sheds plus his house full of this STUFF .... and of course he hadn't intended to GO just yet... so ... now the question is.... just who is going to make the stuff go away.... and for what price.... Unfortunately this is an area that I know so little about what its worth.. that I won't be much help on this one... I am watching the "Vultures Gathering" so be warned as Jeff says... MAKE YOUR OWN ARRANGEMENTS NOW ... so that your STUFF goes Where you want it to go... for the price that you expect it to go for... Otherwise it is left to the rest of us to decide the fate of your goodies... John k9uwa Article: 319619 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Farewell to a dear friend... From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:59:41 GMT In article , gizzledgeezer@comcast.net says... > > >Although I broadly agree with the overall thrust of this essay, it >nevertheless represents a fundamentally reactionary point of view aimed at >encouraging people to "know their place" and not attempt to change things. > > As Usual William... you have taken it wrong! John k9uwa Article: 319620 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1122154350.293002.84120@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122159126.362692.153660@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122165567.426409.243600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122173420.869979.29810@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FA - Vintage Western Electric Cradle Phone Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 08:24:21 -0400 "No longer amused" wrote in message news:1122173420.869979.29810@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Ted Bundy was more courteous than I might be. He politely killed > people. Does that mean anything? > Yes. You are a lunatic. GO AWAY. Article: 319621 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Grigsby-Grunow Majestic Model 70-B - barely there From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:32:10 GMT In article , jon@NOscapturaSPAM.com says... > > Hi Jon ... well your voltages are high partly because your starting line voltage is a fair bit higher than the radio was intended to operate on... that you need to address at the end to drop the whole works.... but first you need to make the radio work right.... the potted caps in the chassis ..HAVE TO BE REPLACED.. your going to have to take your ohm meter and follow the leads from these caps to see where they are hooked into the radio.... my guess on those 3 cap blocks... #1... all three of them have another lead besides the 2 or 3 wires and that is to Chassis Ground through a solder lug that holds the block in place.... #2.. look at your schematic... follow down from the filament wiring of the 2nd type 26 tube and you see a pair of 0.5 Mfd caps that are one tied to each side of the filament wires... and the case on this cap block goes to ground... thats one of the "Two Wire Blocks" .... here a pair of something like 200 volt 0.5 Mfd caps will be fine to replace that one with... #3 and directly below and a hair to the right is the other "Two Wire Block" also a pair of 0.5 Mfd caps. This one has 1/2 of it bypassing the ground the plate lead from type 27 tube on the lower end of the first audio transformer... follow it and you see that it is going to the 50 volt.. you have 65 volts there.. and the other 1/2 of this block is bypassing the center tap of the filament wiring on the type 27 detector tube... this one only sees a few volts.. so again both of these caps 200 volt replacements work fine... #4... the "Three Lead" cap block... all three of those leads are I bet tied together to form a single 1.5 Mfd at 300 volts capacitor .... check this with your ohm meter... they all should be tied to the 96 volt... you have 135 volts on this one... your distortion and weak signals are due to those caps aren't bypassing the RF like they are supposed to... open... and the one thats shorted... I might be wrong on the above a bit... your ohm meter will tell you yes or no prior to changing the caps... John k9uwa >I've finished rebuilding the power supply on my Majestic, and after rewiring >the speaker and interconnect harnesses, brought the radio up on my variac. I >am getting a local station very faintly and distorted on the speaker, but >nothing else. No hum, no smoke either. Filament voltages are where they >should be, but the all three B+ are high. >Here are the voltages that I'm seeing: >Red (260v B+): 350v >Yellow (96v B+): 135v >Green (50v B+): 65v > >Voltage drop across field coil is 223v. > >I have not touched the potted caps in the chassis yet, as I'm not sure which >ones are which. None of them are marked. There are three cap boxes, two with >two terminals, and one with three. Before I start tracing out wiring, does >anyone know which ones are which values? I'm assuming that these are the .5 >mf caps, but I want to be sure. I either measure an open or very high pf >values on all except one, which measures a short. > >------------------ >Jon Scaptura >Endicott, NY USA >http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios > > > Article: 319622 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Any News on Bill Turner? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1122208220.972826.306590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <__LEe.203671$nG6.171952@attbi_s22> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:40:26 GMT In article <1122208220.972826.306590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, eb062559@aol.com says... > > >leave the strat to me john.... > I think someone will probably pry that one out of Jeans Cold Dead Hands.... which should be long after I am gone... age difference plus female... plus I still haven't quit smoking... I outta go about 12 years or so ahead of her.. so get in line... it will be a while... John k9uwa Article: 319623 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Biasi" References: <3kg6ruFtes53U1@individual.net> Subject: Re: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device Message-ID: <1%LEe.7307$El3.3494@fe10.lga> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 08:40:31 -0400 "Radio Rambler" wrote in message news:3kg6ruFtes53U1@individual.net... > Steve B. wrote: > >> Hi All: >> I'm an old car nut mostly with a lot of interest but very little >> knowledge of tube electronics (or electronics in general) >> >> One of my cars has an auto dimming mirror which is basically a light >> sensor and a relay that feeds a magnet. It has a 12X5 tube that I >> have replaced (you can see the device @ >> http://c-i-f.ifrance.com/mirrormatic_1959.htm) (not my web page) >> >> Anyway this one doesn't work. If I manually trip the relay it will >> pull the mirror back but nothing I can do will make it work >> automatically. This mirror is all but irreplaceable and my electronic >> skills aren't anywhere near the level they would need to be to fix it. >> Can anyone here recommend someone that would be willing and able to >> take a look at it and get it working again for me? I am in the Tampa >> area so the closer the better but I will ship anywhere the smart >> person is. >> >> Steve B. > are you sure that it calls for a 12X5. the schematic has it marked as a > 12K5. > i cant seem to find any info on a 12X5, however, the data for the 12K5 > appears to co-incide with the schematic. > -- > The Shadow Knows It is a 12K5, the OP must have misread it. Article: 319624 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Farewell to a dear friend... From: "Haggis" telus.net> References: <1122211291.630476.63540@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:31:04 GMT On 24-Jul-2005, "Peter Wieck" wrote: > And the Grandfather of Common Sense - Question Authority - died long > since. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA Now if there was ever a candidate for resurrection............. Haggis. Article: 319625 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: 'Re: Any News on Bill Turner? References: <5mLEe.203545$nG6.155894@attbi_s22> <4qmdnViSu8qLB37fRVn-qA@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:53:28 GMT Art's Antique Radios wrote: > my wife has already said when I go, it all goes on the front lawn with a > sign that says > > " FREE FU#%*%$%^# RADIOS" Women.... they have this silly idea that we love our radios more than we love them. Which, of course, isn't true... ...( ahem )................ Article: 319626 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: Good morning all References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122208667.084435.14040@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:54:15 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote: > amazing how all problems started te day bush took the oath isn't it? > california made their liberal bed........ > Say it again, Brother! Amen and amen.... Article: 319627 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: OT: Political rant. Was Re: Good morning all References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:12:04 GMT Scott W. Harvey wrote: > Dave, If you lived in California, your bill for consuming the same > energy shown above would be $543.66 using PG&E's graduated rate tables. That's true, Scott, but the point is that in Californica, you don't have to use that kind of energy to live. Heat plus humidity plus large family equals big bills. No, I don't keep this ghetto hovel at 68 degrees; I have a family of six and the place is all-electric, so it burns a lot of juice, but even keeping the air at an unpleasant 78 degrees in July makes that meter spin like an old Al Jolson record. In California, you don't have to burn so much to get reasonably comfortable. When we've recovered enough from the medical vampires (and my own idiocies) to get out of this rental hell, you can be sure my home will use every trick I can find to save energy. I already have four solar panels, batteries and parts for a 12-volt electrical system to provide night lighting, plus run a small motor to pull cooler air from under the house and circulate it to the attic during the day. That's a start. And I recommend people listen to the person who mentioned window units for spot cooling. I use them in railroad equipment buildings. They're more efficient and smaller than when we were boys. D.S. Article: 319628 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Hagman" Subject: Re: Stromberg Carlson Restoration 140L Complete Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 11:25:54 -0400 Message-ID: <11e7co3g5c2nrf2@corp.supernews.com> References: <11e56p76voqe21b@corp.supernews.com> <1122208305.263580.149150@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1122208305.263580.149150@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > can't see binaries. can you post them on your webpage? > Just go to- http://antiqueradios.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=restorations Article: 319629 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" Subject: fa: ford 8-track am/fm Message-ID: <1122222079.2e2e78638c5d8c5ff61a00f1f2a7b0cf@teranews> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 09:20:18 -0700 here is the listing - I'm guessing that its 1968, but feel free to correct me http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7989083859 -- Bill also check out http://www.wbnoble.com Article: 319630 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <11du9i1bb2nbm31@corp.supernews.com> <1122053228.766080.147180@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <11e3ngujns36rc7@corp.supernews.com> <1122124458.880273.73780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1122137680.98e55132affb83f52357d91b1d73e051@teranews> <1122165955.698729.194570@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1122177216.ce6afffdbf9d47b30ecbb6dd0ae36be3@teranews> <5ridnexW1tB14H7fRVn-pg@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Vintage stereo info? Message-ID: <1122222555.68b6561f0c623309e4bb54cb3da67b6b@teranews> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 09:28:23 -0700 well, this is one of those "hoity-toity" overpriced audiophile units, and it feels a desparate urge to keep the transistors warm so it will sound perfect when you first turn it on - so it sits there with an idle current through everything even when it's off (and by the way, that includes the preamp, and the separate D/A). you may say I was pissed (you'd be right) - I wouldn't mind 3 to 5 watts, but 250 watts (or more) is just beyond the pale. by the way, it is a mark levinson model 332 "dual monural" power amp, and the pre is a 38S, and the D/A is a 360S. Yes, these things sound really good. Did I pay too much - probably, but if you buy something only once every 30 years, the cost gets spread out nicely - still, I wish the stupid things actually turned off when you ask them to. The manual says they use "just the power of a couple of light bulbs" - true enough, if they are 100 watt bulbs, but I changed every bulb in my house to high efficiency fluorescents, plus even lights get turned off sometimes. anyway, hope that answered the question "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:5ridnexW1tB14H7fRVn-pg@comcast.com... >> I discovered that the stereo, when OFF, used as much power >> as the rest of my house (about 250 - 300 watts continuous). >> So I added a relay to REALLY turn it off, and my electic bill >> dropped by half. > > Devices with "soft" power switches draw only a few watts when "off". How > could a system have enough such components to draw even 50 watts, let > alone > 300? > > Article: 319631 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:33:29 -0400 Check the grid voltage using a high impedance VTVM or digital meter for a change in voltage as light is shined on the photocell. The grid should go more positive as the light intensity is increased. Or, you could just bridge the CdS cell with a 10k resistor and see if the relay then pulls. If the cell is bad, it is probably a LDR (light dependent resistor) type and is most likely a CdS type cell (Cadmimium Sulphite). You could probably steal one from an old photometer. Pete Article: 319632 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Funke W18 tube Tester References: <1122165622.465073.304340@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <42e33b8d$0$7240$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <15HEe.1681$vf.1408@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1122222517.533077.198640@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 16:52:41 GMT Jiri Placek wrote: > Jeff- > If you like this kind of stuff then check this soviet L3-3 portable > tester. 12 tubes, 15 silicone diodes, with all power supplies > stabilized, measures everything including control grid current. > www.jogis-roehrenbude.de/Roehren-Geschichtliches/Roe-Pruefer/L3-3/L3_3.htm Well, that's certainly another beautiful tube tester Jiri. *grins* I guess we don't have to worry about suit case nukes... There's no way they could have fit everything including the 6SN7, 2050 and dynamotors in a suitcase. ;-) Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319633 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 16:53:41 GMT Uncle Peter wrote: > If the cell is bad, it is probably a LDR (light dependent resistor) > type and is most likely a CdS type cell (Cadmimium Sulphite). > > You could probably steal one from an old photometer. They're still available every where... From Radio Shack through Mouser and a variety of surplus places. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319634 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Vintage stereo info? References: <11du9i1bb2nbm31@corp.supernews.com> <1122053228.766080.147180@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <11e3ngujns36rc7@corp.supernews.com> <1122124458.880273.73780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1122137680.98e55132affb83f52357d91b1d73e051@teranews> <1122165955.698729.194570@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1122177216.ce6afffdbf9d47b30ecbb6dd0ae36be3@teranews> <5ridnexW1tB14H7fRVn-pg@comcast.com> <1122222555.68b6561f0c623309e4bb54cb3da67b6b@teranews> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 16:55:57 GMT william_b_noble wrote: > well, this is one of those "hoity-toity" overpriced audiophile units, and it > feels a desparate urge to keep the transistors warm so it will sound perfect > when you first turn it on - so it sits there with an idle current through > everything even when it's off (and by the way, that includes the preamp, and > the separate D/A). you may say I was pissed (you'd be right) - I wouldn't > mind 3 to 5 watts, but 250 watts (or more) is just beyond the pale. When I replaced my "Table sawed BSR Combo" with a Kenwood component part system, I found out that their 100 watt stereo amp runs Class-A Sigh, so much for a background radio. It too sucks up 250 watts. At least when it's off, it's OFF. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319635 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1122208220.972826.306590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <__LEe.203671$nG6.171952@attbi_s22> Subject: Re: Any News on Bill Turner? Message-ID: <2LPEe.158127$go.55266@fed1read05> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 12:56:30 -0400 "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:__LEe.203671$nG6.171952@attbi_s22... > In article <1122208220.972826.306590@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > eb062559@aol.com says... > > > > > >leave the strat to me john.... > > > I think someone will probably pry that one out of Jeans Cold Dead > Hands.... which should be long after I am gone... age difference > plus female... plus I still haven't quit smoking... I outta go > about 12 years or so ahead of her.. so get in line... it will be > a while... > > John k9uwa > Wife walked into the shop the other day, looked around and said "I hope I go first, I don't wanna deal with all of this!!" Pete Article: 319636 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: FA - Vintage Western Electric Cradle Phone References: <1122154350.293002.84120@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122159126.362692.153660@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122165567.426409.243600@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122173420.869979.29810@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122211652.646722.16160@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 16:57:24 GMT John Byrns wrote: > Peter, why are you feeding this particularly repugnant Camel? Now you > even have me doing it. It is pointless to assume Skippy will every grow up and go away. So as long as he insists on posting here, we're going to make fun of him and harrass him. Maybe if we're lucky, he'll get so worked up, he'll have a stroke. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319637 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Biasi" References: Subject: Re: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:03:53 -0400 " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:tpPEe.158119$go.155463@fed1read05... > > Check the grid voltage using a high impedance VTVM or digital meter > for a change in voltage as light is shined on the photocell. The grid > should go more positive as the light intensity is increased. Or, you > could just bridge the CdS cell with a 10k resistor and see if the > relay then pulls. > > If the cell is bad, it is probably a LDR (light dependent resistor) > type and is most likely a CdS type cell (Cadmimium Sulphite). > > You could probably steal one from an old photometer. > > Pete > > Nickpick mode on>>>> You probably mean "Cadmium Sulfide" >>>> nickpick mode off. Article: 319638 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: Political rant. Was Re: Good morning all From: Larry References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4bb95$42e2e882$4232bd86$6421@COQUI.NET> <1122177875.968465.278060@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 13:25:22 -0400 "No longer amused" wrote in news:1122177875.968465.278060@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > THEM SO Man what a disgusting wakeup this morning.... I laid in bed, reached over and picked up the infrared remote of the bedroom unit and clicked the fan speed to auto and temp down a few degrees....without lifting my lazy ass off the mattress....(c; -- Larry Article: 319639 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 10:31:50 -0700 Message-ID: <8512-42E3D086-451@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> References: >From Uncle Peter: >...it is most likely a CdS type cell >(Cadmimium Sulphite). Duzzat go with the capacitator in the horizontical circuit? :-) oc Article: 319640 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete KE9OA" Subject: Grundig 3400 service manual Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 18:39:51 GMT Does anybody know where I can purchase a GOOD copy of a service manual for this unit? I purchased one this weekend from www.electronicsrepair.net and the quality resembles that of a photocopy from a very poor copier. Portions of the text are missing, it appears that key portions of the manual are missing, and it is impossible to decipher the board layouts. Although this document is meant to be in grayscale, it appears that there are only two colors in the grayscale; these are light black and dark black. I think what I really need is either a copy of the original service manual OR the original service manual itself. Can anybody help me? I don't want to go to one of those clickbank.com websites..............they don't appear to have what I need. Pete Article: 319641 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 15:26:00 -0400 "Tom Biasi" wrote in message news:XRPEe.13099$_x.11116@fe11.lga... > > Nickpick mode on>>>> You probably mean "Cadmium Sulfide" >>>> nickpick > mode off. > > Sure, pick on the old farts. But, in 20 previous replies, no one else mentioned it. O.F. Article: 319642 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Biasi" References: Subject: Re: Off Topic - Need a source for repair on tube controlled device Message-ID: <8TSEe.7741$El3.5657@fe10.lga> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 16:29:58 -0400 " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:cXREe.158170$go.70758@fed1read05... > > "Tom Biasi" wrote in message > news:XRPEe.13099$_x.11116@fe11.lga... >> > > Nickpick mode on>>>> You probably mean "Cadmium Sulfide" >>>> nickpick >> mode off. >> >> > > Sure, pick on the old farts. But, in 20 previous replies, no one > else mentioned it. > > O.F. > > Sorry Unc. We have a guy at work that nitpicks everything, his name is Nick, we like to use the term nickpick, it looks like it crept into my post. Article: 319643 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" Subject: Lot of meters Message-ID: <%5TEe.15430$a5.222360@twister2.libero.it> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:45:47 GMT I got from a friend a lot of about 400 meters. Those are from automotive device for wheels calibrating (camber..) they are new and boxed. They are really big.. 6 1/2" x 8", some are >from left and some from right reading. The zero is positioned at 30 degrees left or right >from center scale. They can be adjusted simple opening and manually moving the pointer regulator, the external screw don't do it because has been builded to move the pointer near the 30 degrees. Transparent case, may be lighted from rear. I don't know how much are they in mA or uA.. only that internal resistance is 27ohm and the Digital ohmmeter move them only for 1/3 of the dial. Need to sell them, don't know for how much. Feel free to make an offer if you like them, but i'd like to sell them in couple, one from left and one from right, want 2 left reading? you'll take four of them, sorry, i need space.. Pictures will be posted on the binary. -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 319644 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Good morning all Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 14:53:30 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1122051677.512409.303940@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1122208667.084435.14040@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "David Stinson" wrote in message news:b4NEe.7576$dU3.577@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Eddie Brimer wrote: > >> amazing how all problems started te day bush took the oath isn't it? >> california made their liberal bed........ >> > > Say it again, Brother! Amen and amen.... as you love to say so much, belief in bush is like religion. there are no facts to support it, you must simply have faith. randy Article: 319645 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: HPGrn Subject: Re: 'Re: Any News on Bill Turner? Message-ID: References: <5mLEe.203545$nG6.155894@attbi_s22> <4qmdnViSu8qLB37fRVn-qA@comcast.com> Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:53:42 GMT On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 08:37:34 -0500, "Art's Antique Radios" wrote: >my wife has already said when I go, it all goes on the front lawn with a >sign that says > >" FREE FU#%*%$%^# RADIOS" > My wife wants to do that now....BEFORE I die!! Herb Article: 319646 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: Grigsby-Grunow Majestic Model 70-B - barely there Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 22:10:26 GMT "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:eTLEe.203512$xm3.31622@attbi_s21... > In article , > jon@NOscapturaSPAM.com says... >> >> > > Hi Jon ... well your voltages are high partly because your starting line > voltage is a fair bit higher than the radio was intended to operate on... > Shouldn't the ballast bring the primary down to 80 volts? The service information indicates that it should work on line voltages from 90 - 130 volts. My thought was that because the set isn't drawing enough current, the ballast isn't dropping the primary voltage enough. > that you need to address at the end to drop the whole works.... but first > you need to make the radio work right.... > > the potted caps in the chassis ..HAVE TO BE REPLACED.. your going to have > to take your ohm meter and follow the leads from these caps to see > where they are hooked into the radio.... > > my guess on those 3 cap blocks... > > You gave me lots of things to consider. I've got .5 caps on order, as locally, they want $7 each for them (630v rated). Mail order has them under a buck. I tacked in the few .5 caps that I had on hand in place of the dual section blocks and it made no difference, so I need to focus on the triple section block. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 319647 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 'Re: Any News on Bill Turner? From: Larry References: <5mLEe.203545$nG6.155894@attbi_s22> <4qmdnViSu8qLB37fRVn-qA@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 18:27:13 -0400 HPGrn wrote in news:ptv7e1hul3flk5djrlmur236s3vbq5v0p8@4ax.com: > My wife wants to do that now....BEFORE I die!! > > Herb > > When a ham radio wife (similar addiction to old radios) says something to me about how much she would like to throw out all his equipment to the trash.....I remind her that he COULD be sitting on a barstool next to some big-titted blonde floozy trying to get her to go to a motel with him....instead of sitting in front of all his wonderful radio gear in the basement, close to home and her, talking to Australia. It sets them thinking how wonderful all that ham radio gear may be.... One ham credits me for his new Yaesu FT-1000Dxxxxxxx transceiver she got him for Christmas....thinking about that Big Titted Blonde Floozy...(c; -- Larry Article: 319650 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 09:31:58 +1000 From: Mark Harriss Subject: Re: Funke W18 tube Tester References: <1122165622.465073.304340@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <42e33b8d$0$7240$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <15HEe.1681$vf.1408@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1122222517.533077.198640@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <42e424ec$0$844$61c65585@uq-127creek-reader-03.brisbane.pipenetworks.com.au> Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > Jiri Placek wrote: > >> Jeff- >> If you like this kind of stuff then check this soviet L3-3 portable >> tester. 12 tubes, 15 silicone diodes, with all power supplies >> stabilized, measures everything including control grid current. >> www.jogis-roehrenbude.de/Roehren-Geschichtliches/Roe-Pruefer/L3-3/L3_3.htm >> > > > Well, that's certainly another beautiful tube tester Jiri. > > *grins* I guess we don't have to worry about suit case nukes... > There's no way they could have fit everything including the > 6SN7, 2050 and dynamotors in a suitcase. ;-) > > Jeff > Wow! the Collins R390A of valve testers! Article: 319651 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Bumble Bees Decoder References: <1xyEe.56951$iU.35500@lakeread05> Message-ID: <2ZWEe.16594$aY6.1911@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 01:09:18 GMT William R. Walsh wrote: > I think you might mean: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7338818065 > > The other goes to a bidder listing. > > I saw the slogan on the back of the decoder "Not a failure in a million". Today that would be "Not a good one in a million" :-) Article: 319652 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Vintage stereo info? References: <11du9i1bb2nbm31@corp.supernews.com> <1122053228.766080.147180@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <11e3ngujns36rc7@corp.supernews.com> <1122124458.880273.73780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1122137680.98e55132affb83f52357d91b1d73e051@teranews> <1122165955.698729.194570@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1122177216.ce6afffdbf9d47b30ecbb6dd0ae36be3@teranews> <5ridnexW1tB14H7fRVn-pg@comcast.com> <1122222555.68b6561f0c623309e4bb54cb3da67b6b@teranews> <1122254935.247058.48300@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <7AXEe.30818$aA5.13245@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 01:50:59 GMT electron@grapevine.net wrote: > If it wasn't class A, it was pretty close to it. I finally got up and looked at the Kenwood in question. It's a KA-9100 amplifier. And yeah, it runs hot, even with the volume turned down to background levels. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 319653 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Barry Kasindorf Subject: Re: Blue Neutrowound References: <1120694665.560989.240370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1120695028.723173.48280@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 01:50:40 GMT Anyone making the repro tube covers for this anymore? My blue is missing 2. -Barry jim menning wrote: > "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message > news:1120695028.723173.48280@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >>here is my set. > > > Nice job Eddie. Pure magic. > > jim menning > > Article: 319654 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Grigsby-Grunow Majestic Model 70-B - barely there From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 02:10:20 GMT In article , jon@NOscapturaSPAM.com says... > > > >Shouldn't the ballast bring the primary down to 80 volts? The service >information indicates that it should work on line voltages from 90 - 130 >volts. My thought was that because the set isn't drawing enough current, the >ballast isn't dropping the primary voltage enough. > > Yes the above could be correct.... still betting that your house gets 125 volts and thats more than you want on this radio when your all done with it... but get it working first... think your moving in correct direction.... 7 bux?... Ouch .... John k9uwa Article: 319655 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 'Re: Any News on Bill Turner? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <5mLEe.203545$nG6.155894@attbi_s22> <4qmdnViSu8qLB37fRVn-qA@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 02:14:42 GMT In article , noone@home.com says... > > >that Big Titted Blonde Floozy...(c; > >-- >Larry That one was good enough that I printed it out... will consider hanging it on the wall in a Frame... That will probably get me "Framed" John k9uwa Article: 319656 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 'Re: Any News on Bill Turner? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1122259581.822061.57260@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 03:40:34 GMT In article <1122259581.822061.57260@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, lbrty4us@aol.com says... > > >Recheck your wife first, in-between radios - it could get you injured >if she is blonde with large mammaries. > I'm pretty safe.... she has good sense of Humor.... not blonde... and likes the radios about as well as I do!... Fortunately John k9uwa Article: 319657 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Now that's one expensive cathedral Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 03:58:04 GMT Now that's one expensive cathedral. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6546295646&category=38034&rd=1 $1635.15 for a "restored" AK-82. Ron Article: 319658 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Now that's one expensive cathedral Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2005 21:59:43 -0700 Message-ID: References: Shawn K wrote: > Hmm.... I guess that's why this one has a pretty high buy it now > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6548731114&category=38034&rd=1 > > Unrestored vs. restored.....That finish looks half-assed, especially when compared to the 1600.00 radio. -Scott Article: 319659 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <1122259581.822061.57260@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 'Re: Any News on Bill Turner? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 07:28:12 GMT Is Bill reading all of this? Omer "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:SaZEe.178006$x96.80062@attbi_s72... > In article <1122259581.822061.57260@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, > lbrty4us@aol.com says... >> >> >>Recheck your wife first, in-between radios - it could get you injured >>if she is blonde with large mammaries. >> > > I'm pretty safe.... she has good sense of Humor.... not blonde... > and likes the radios about as well as I do!... > > Fortunately > John k9uwa > Article: 319660 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 'Re: Any News on Bill Turner? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1122259581.822061.57260@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:30:02 GMT In article , oabukovac@earthlink.net says... > > >Is Bill reading all of this? > >Omer Hi Omer..... no internet access for Bill at this point... not until he gets home... hopefully in a couple of weeks John k9uwa From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Mon Jul 25 23:27:32 EDT 2005 Article: 319661 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: RCA RC-15 book in Seattle? Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 03:48:46 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <11e9gs8qrb4t401@corp.supernews.com> Reply-To: "David Axt" References: <11e8sur7nffjhcc@corp.supernews.com> <1122270795.147272.238570@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 14 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319661 "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:1122270795.147272.238570@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > David, are you sure RC-15 was ever reprinted by anyone? I see RC-14, 19 > and 30 out there (14 is a good one, exists on the Internet as a free > PDF download) but no RC-15. Lots of original copies out there though. > You are correct, I meant RC-30. My brain was half asleep. Pun intended. ;-) -David Article: 319662 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1122288993.976312.237320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Now that's one expensive cathedral Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 11:42:02 GMT Nope. -- Mike Schultz "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1122288993.976312.237320@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Aren't the coil-covers missing? > > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 319663 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <42E4DB03.67C0890A@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Farewell to a dear friend... References: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 12:29:08 GMT Peter Wieck wrote: > > Well, it does. But there is a certain group in society that does not > distinquish between religion and politics. I am not sure whether they > politicize religion or attempt to sanctify politics, but either > approach is entirely reprehensible. In any case, most of it is a > diversion so as to muddle the general public and obscure any actual > issues of substance. > > However, we have established that Common Sense isn't. And the artfully > worded little ditty that originated this thread is a perfect example of > that. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA "If common sense really was common, it wouldn't even be named but it would be expected." -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 319664 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1122147839.771165.55630@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1122160124.617345.40400@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <_RBEe.557$8g.150@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1122270948.202025.264390@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: RCA Radiola Model 100 Speaker part?? Message-ID: <6q6Fe.1092$8g.892@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:11:14 GMT "David" wrote in message news:1122270948.202025.264390@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Again Thank you for the updated information. I have enough > information > to enable me to restore this speaker. > You're welcome, and Good Luck! jim menning Article: 319665 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 'Re: Any News on Bill Turner? From: Larry References: <5mLEe.203545$nG6.155894@attbi_s22> <4qmdnViSu8qLB37fRVn-qA@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:08:25 -0400 k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) wrote in news:mWXEe.179574$_o.16781@attbi_s71: > That will probably get me "Framed" > > John k9uwa > > Do you know any big-titted blonde floozies, John?....(c; 73 DE W4CSC NNNN -- Larry Article: 319666 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" Subject: Ping for meters Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:13:09 GMT Who sent me emails asking for the meters please contact me again, spameater decided itself to kill lot of emails... -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 319667 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Where is the schematic for this radio? References: <2pf8e1l25gs87i2i7va1rn9v5v1i04gesq@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:53:06 GMT Blacksmith wrote: > I never saw an Olympic before, now I have 3. I can't find a schematic > for this one anywhere. The radio has no model number on it, but Bunis > lists it as a LP-163. > > I looked in Riders, NostalgiAir, and searched the web. Is the model > number wrong in the books? It looks like the one on page 174 of > Slusser's book, sixth edition. > > "LP-163" sounds like the part number for the antenna. If the cardboard back is missing, that's the antenna. What tubes does it use? I might be able to figure out which schematic it is from that. Article: 319668 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jim rozen Subject: Re: echophone ec-1 Date: 25 Jul 2005 12:58:08 -0700 Message-ID: References: In article , Lou deGonzague says... > >One thing to check on this radio is the rubber grommets used to insulate >the chassis from the case. They are usually dried out and need to be >replaced. Use an isolation transformer when servicing this radio. If the >grommets are bad there can be a direct connection to the case from the >AC line. I have a copy of the original manual, it's not great but I >could scan it. Or, better yet, install a permanent iso Xformer to make the radio safe to use anywhere. This is how I re-work old echophones. The transformer fits best up on the side of the case, above the chassis on the left hand side as viewed from the front. While doing this put an inline buss fuse in there too. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== Article: 319669 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Any News on Bill Turner? Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:18:00 -0700 Message-ID: <12948-42E548F8-565@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> References: <1122319158.986979.166380@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> IIRC, Bill has mentioned that he canned his most recent spouse. Bill(oc) Article: 319670 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jim rozen Subject: Re: Any Freed-Eisemann aficionados out there? Date: 25 Jul 2005 13:05:34 -0700 Message-ID: References: <42E03C33.8080100@worldnet.att.net> In article <42E03C33.8080100@worldnet.att.net>, Al Schapira says... >Three of the tubes show solid filament continuity, (resistance about 3 >Ohms, cold, of course) and two show intermittent filament continuity >because the glass rotates slightly with respect to the tube base. Is it >possible to remove the base by unsoldering the pins to repair the >intermittent contacts? What is recommended to re-glue the glass to the >base if the repair is successful? Folks have covered the glue issue pretty well (although I've always used plain elmers white glue for this) but you should realize that just becase the envelope is rotating with respect to the base, that should not disturb continuity for the filament leads. Because of the way the press is installed in those tubes, you might have trouble removing the envelope from the base, even after extracting all the solder from the pins. I would suggest: 1) flux (rosin) the pins and re-solder them. Often this will fix the continuity problem. 2) without removing the envelope from the base, work some elmer's white glue into the seam, and wipe off the excess. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Mon Jul 25 23:27:35 EDT 2005 Article: 319671 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Any News on Bill Turner? References: <1122319158.986979.166380@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <12948-42E548F8-565@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 9 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:56:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1122325018 66.65.49.245 (Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:56:58 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:56:58 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319671 In article <12948-42E548F8-565@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net>, Bill Sheppard wrote: > IIRC, Bill has mentioned that he canned his most recent spouse. > Bill(oc) Sure beats freeze-drying!! o.o -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 319672 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Now that's one expensive cathedral References: Message-ID: <6ocFe.19$ah4.5@lakeread05> Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 16:58:35 -0400 That's a gloss finish on that set. I thought most sets of that time were a bit satinish, not a piano finish. Maybe people like the gloss better??? Ken Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > Now that's one expensive cathedral. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6546295646&category=38034&rd=1 > > > $1635.15 for a "restored" AK-82. > > Ron Article: 319673 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <6ocFe.19$ah4.5@lakeread05> Subject: Re: Now that's one expensive cathedral Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:14:16 -0400 "Ken" wrote in message news:6ocFe.19$ah4.5@lakeread05... > That's a gloss finish on that set. I thought most sets of that time were > a bit satinish, not a piano finish. Maybe people like the gloss > better??? Ken > That's a Joe Magi restoration. He is noted for the deep piano finishes, and usually garners top dollar for his sets. I suspect he has a following. Pete Article: 319674 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" Subject: Donald duck... Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:30:28 GMT ...and the radio: http://www.tuberadio.it/download/dd.mpeg - 2.5Mb - ..pump up the volume! -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 319675 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Now that's one expensive cathedral References: <6ocFe.19$ah4.5@lakeread05> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:54:36 -0400 I'm just finishing up a Philco 90, wonder if I should slick it up??? Ken Uncle Peter wrote: > "Ken" wrote in message news:6ocFe.19$ah4.5@lakeread05... > >>That's a gloss finish on that set. I thought most sets of that time were >>a bit satinish, not a piano finish. Maybe people like the gloss >>better??? Ken >> > > > That's a Joe Magi restoration. He is noted for the deep piano finishes, > and usually garners top dollar for his sets. I suspect he has a following. > > Pete > > From philsvintageradios<----- remove ----- Mon Jul 25 23:27:36 EDT 2005 Article: 319676 of rec.antiques.radio+phono X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.86.62.131 From: phil < philsvintageradios<----- remove ----->@yahoo.ca > Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Lot of meters Message-ID: <5mtae15bde8mr2dfs3bkhhih0s8pri7o44@4ax.com> References: <%5TEe.15430$a5.222360@twister2.libero.it> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 24 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 23:34:41 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.144.74 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1122334481 64.59.144.74 (Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:34:41 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 17:34:41 MDT Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newsfeeds.nerdc.ufl.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!peer01.west.cox.net!cox.net!pd7cy1no!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319676 On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 20:45:47 GMT, "Daniele" wrote: >I got from a friend a lot of about 400 meters. >Those are from automotive device for wheels >calibrating (camber..) they are new and boxed. >They are really big.. 6 1/2" x 8", some are >from left and some from right reading. >The zero is positioned at 30 degrees left or right >from center scale. They can be adjusted simple >opening and manually moving the pointer regulator, >the external screw don't do it because has been >builded to move the pointer near the 30 degrees. >Transparent case, may be lighted from rear. >I don't know how much are they in mA or uA.. >only that internal resistance is 27ohm and the >Digital ohmmeter move them only for 1/3 of the dial. >Need to sell them, don't know for how much. >Feel free to make an offer if you like them, >but i'd like to sell them in couple, one from left >and one from right, want 2 left reading? you'll take four of them, >sorry, i need space.. >Pictures will be posted on the binary. Article: 319677 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: Subject: Re: echophone ec-1 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 00:31:12 +0100 Message-ID: <42e57714$1@nntp.onyx.net> jim rozen wrote: SNIP > Or, better yet, install a permanent iso Xformer to make the radio > safe to use anywhere. This is how I re-work old echophones. The > transformer fits best up on the side of the case, above the > chassis on the left hand side as viewed from the front. While > doing this put an inline buss fuse in there too. > > Jim Please indulge a foreigner, What's a buss fuse and what are its size and ratings? Thanks, Martin(Stockport) From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Mon Jul 25 23:27:36 EDT 2005 Article: 319678 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: echophone ec-1 References: <42e57714$1@nntp.onyx.net> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 10 Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 23:38:47 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1122334727 66.65.49.245 (Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:38:47 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:38:47 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319678 In article <42e57714$1@nntp.onyx.net>, Martin Crossley wrote: > What's a buss fuse and what are its size and ratings? Buss is a brand/manufacturer (?) of fuses. I guess the person meant a glass cartridge fuse? -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 319679 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Now that's one expensive cathedral References: <6ocFe.19$ah4.5@lakeread05> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 23:45:41 GMT >>> That's a gloss finish on that set. I thought most sets of that time were >>> a bit satinish, not a piano finish. Maybe people like the gloss >>> better??? Ken >>> Here's a link to a pic of my 2 model 82s. Both all original unrestored. http://radioheaven.homestead.com/index1.html Ron Article: 319680 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: <42e57714$1@nntp.onyx.net> Subject: Re: echophone ec-1 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 00:50:15 +0100 Message-ID: <42e57b9a@nntp.onyx.net> Stephanie Weil wrote: > In article <42e57714$1@nntp.onyx.net>, Martin Crossley wrote: > >> What's a buss fuse and what are its size and ratings? > > Buss is a brand/manufacturer (?) of fuses. I guess the person meant a > glass cartridge fuse? Hello Stephanie, Thanks for your reply. Are they the same company as Bussmann here, who do an amazingly wide range, from car fuses rated at 32Vmax. to huge things to go in electrical substations? Martin. Article: 319681 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" Subject: Re: OT: Political rant. Was Re: Good morning all Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 00:53:41 +0100 Message-ID: <42e57c45@nntp.onyx.net> David Stinson wrote: > Jeffrey D Angus wrote: >> My Edison bill used to be $25-30/month. It's now averaging over >> $100. > Good GOD, man! What ARE you griping about?? > I haven't paid an electric bill that cheap in years. > Come here to Texas and cool a dinky 1100 square foot home > in July for, oh, $300 or so... > > D.S. FWIW, My last electricity bill was £39.65 = $70 for a quarter (3 months.) It costs 9.8p (17c.) for the first 197kWh, 7.8p (14c.) thereafter, including 5% VAT(don't ask...long story behind the tax) (and my gas bill never exceeds £41 or $72 a quarter at 2.8p/kWh for first 50kWh, 1.6p thereafter, +5%VAT.) 945kWh of electrical energy would cost about $136. Similar to Scott Harvey's costs, in fact. BTW, my annual (unmetered) water bill was £136 or $239. For once, Britain doesn't sound quite as bad a rip-off as usual! Best regards, Martin(Stockport) Article: 319682 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Now that's one expensive cathedral References: <6ocFe.19$ah4.5@lakeread05> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:06:34 -0400 Ron, are they as glossy as the Magi ones, I can't tell. Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: >>>> That's a gloss finish on that set. I thought most sets of that time >>>> were >>>> a bit satinish, not a piano finish. Maybe people like the gloss >>>> better??? Ken >>>> > > Here's a link to a pic of my 2 model 82s. Both all original unrestored. > http://radioheaven.homestead.com/index1.html > > Ron From philsvintageradios<----- remove ----- Mon Jul 25 23:27:38 EDT 2005 Article: 319683 of rec.antiques.radio+phono X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.86.62.131 From: phil < philsvintageradios<----- remove ----->@yahoo.ca > Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: refinishing Q .....smooth spots? Message-ID: References: <6ocFe.19$ah4.5@lakeread05> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 57 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 00:20:55 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.144.74 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw2no 1122337255 64.59.144.74 (Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:20:55 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:20:55 MDT Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!lotsanews.com!news.moat.net!news-out.newsfeeds.com!propagator3-LAX.newsfeeds.com!news-in.usenet.com!pd7cy1no!shaw.ca!pd7tw2no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319683 one thing I find myself contemplating, every time I do a radio is where to stop.... Most old radios didn't have that piano finish. The "texture" of the wood comes through to some degree. if not from the factory, then from age and shrinkage. But in some ways I find it difficult NOT to. make it flat like glass. Once I have a couple of coats and start block sanding, there are always low spots that show. It is hard to be satisfied until they dissapear. Let me put it this way. a radio that has a couple of coats of laquer applied evenly looks ok, but if part of that radio gets a bit more laquer , or a run or two,here and there, then that area has enough laquer on it to give a glassy surface just in that area. These "smooth spots" show. At this point it is impossible go back so the texture of the wood is there in that area again, so the delemma.. To wash it all off and start over, or keep going and make it smoth like glass all over. Because the option is till there to use a matte finish , or dull it back. I usually go the route of making it all smooth first. So on I go spending hours doing like 10 or more coats before I get all the imperfections.. sure it looks nice, I am proud of the job, but it took so long that it is bordering on rediculous. Am I the only one that fights with this? maybe there is something to controlling the flow enough to not get a "smooth spot" anywhere? I thought perhaps someone could share , what they do in this instance. maybe I am nit picky, but when I see radios that are perfectly smooth they look nice, but if the case has a little warpage here and there (like many radios have) , then the pianno finish looks cheap. An example that comes to mind is the smooth black laquer boxes from China. Perfect finish, hand detailing,, but then the box is all warped because of humidity , or because the wood wasn't cured too well, To me it gives a cheap look to see that. Phil Article: 319684 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 20:49:29 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: refinishing Q .....smooth spots? References: <6ocFe.19$ah4.5@lakeread05> Message-ID: <5f3ba$42e588aa$4232bd23$28500@COQUI.NET> phil < philsvintageradios wrote: > > Am I the only one that fights with this? maybe there is something to > controlling the flow enough to not get a "smooth spot" anywhere? > > Phil I use a sanding block for basic levelling but for final finish I use something flexible (3M pads for me) so that the sheen is the same all over. -Bill Article: 319685 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: refinishing Q .....smooth spots? Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:23:07 -0600 Message-ID: References: <6ocFe.19$ah4.5@lakeread05> <5f3ba$42e588aa$4232bd23$28500@COQUI.NET> "-ex-" wrote in message news:5f3ba$42e588aa$4232bd23$28500@COQUI.NET... > phil < philsvintageradios wrote: > > >> >> Am I the only one that fights with this? maybe there is something to >> controlling the flow enough to not get a "smooth spot" anywhere? Phil > > I use a sanding block for basic levelling but for final finish I use > something flexible (3M pads for me) so that the sheen is the same all > over. i agree. i use sanding sponges myself, but anything with some give that can get into those low spots will work. but to answer your question, if you want it flat, you gotta sand it flat. and nothing substitutes for flat. randy Article: 319686 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: refinishing Q .....smooth spots? References: <6ocFe.19$ah4.5@lakeread05> <5f3ba$42e588aa$4232bd23$28500@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:39:26 -0400 I don't understand what you mean by a "smoothe spot". Is that caused by rubbing down the finish? Why not have your final work be a coat of lac, gloss or satin? I find if I do any rubbing with anything on the lac, it's impossible to get the entire surface to look the same. I spray a lot of sanding lac, sanding in between, and for the final coats I use a gloss or satin. A gloss shows every imprefection on the surface, a satin lets you get by with less work, and looks better on some sets, I think. Ken -ex- wrote: > phil < philsvintageradios wrote: > > >> >> Am I the only one that fights with this? maybe there is something to >> controlling the flow enough to not get a "smooth spot" anywhere? >> Phil > > > I use a sanding block for basic levelling but for final finish I use > something flexible (3M pads for me) so that the sheen is the same all over. > > -Bill Article: 319687 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:03:15 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: refinishing Q .....smooth spots? References: <6ocFe.19$ah4.5@lakeread05> <5f3ba$42e588aa$4232bd23$28500@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <7e4a5$42e599e6$4232bd23$25835@COQUI.NET> xrongor wrote: > "-ex-" wrote in message > news:5f3ba$42e588aa$4232bd23$28500@COQUI.NET... > >>phil < philsvintageradios wrote: >> > > i agree. i use sanding sponges myself, but anything with some give that can > get into those low spots will work. > > but to answer your question, if you want it flat, you gotta sand it flat. > and nothing substitutes for flat. > > randy Nothing substitutes for sanding the WOOD flat beforehand. Lacquer isn't intended to level out uneven surfaces. Of course you don't often see how ripply a surface is until you shoot some lacquer on it! -Bill Article: 319688 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Blacksmith Subject: Re: Where is the schematic for this radio? Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:13:13 -0400 Message-ID: References: <2pf8e1l25gs87i2i7va1rn9v5v1i04gesq@4ax.com> I got that number for the picture in the Slusser book. My radio has no number on it. 35Z5, 50L6, 6SA7, 6SQ7, 6SK7 (not much help) Don't knock yourself out trying to find it. I already fixed the radio and gave it back to the owner, but there was a burned out resistor that I had to guess what value to replace it with and I want to see if I got it right. On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 19:53:06 GMT, robert casey wrote: >Blacksmith wrote: > >> I never saw an Olympic before, now I have 3. I can't find a schematic >> for this one anywhere. The radio has no model number on it, but Bunis >> lists it as a LP-163. >> >> I looked in Riders, NostalgiAir, and searched the web. Is the model >> number wrong in the books? It looks like the one on page 174 of >> Slusser's book, sixth edition. >> >> > >"LP-163" sounds like the part number for the antenna. >If the cardboard back is missing, that's the antenna. >What tubes does it use? I might be able to figure out >which schematic it is from that. .... Blacksmith ... Radio Literature on disc. 136 issues (11 years) of SERVICE magazines on CD or DVD. 175 issues of RADIO RETAILING magazines on CD or DVD. Very early NRI home-study radio courses on CD. Mallory Encyclopedia on CD. Record Changers & Recorders by Rider (1941) on CD. Radio Troubleshooter's Handbook -- renovatedradiosdotcom -- Article: 319689 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <1122319158.986979.166380@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <12948-42E548F8-565@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Any News on Bill Turner? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 21:17:02 -0700 "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:slrndeakgp.mq6.stephanie@home3.gordsven.com... > In article <12948-42E548F8-565@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net>, Bill Sheppard wrote: > > IIRC, Bill has mentioned that he canned his most recent spouse. > > Bill(oc) > > Sure beats freeze-drying!! o.o > > -- > Stephanie Weil > New York City, U.S.A. So Stephanie... You going to clean up my desk, keyboard and monitor after that one? LOL Nelson Article: 319690 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Now that's one expensive cathedral References: <6ocFe.19$ah4.5@lakeread05> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 02:19:52 GMT Ken wrote: > Ron, are they as glossy as the Magi ones, I can't tell. > I wouldn't call it a piano finish, but they are shiny. The 82 on ebay was way overdone. It's interesting that someone would pay that much for a very non-original radio. Ron Article: 319691 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: 12V plate tubes... many types! References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:22:16 -0400 Mark Oppat wrote: > I was sorting some minature tubes and had a few of those 12V plate types > like 12AD6 and 12FK6. So, I got out my RC30 RCA tube manual and looked in > the back chart at all the 12v plate tubes. > HOLY SHIT, Batman, there were 31 types by my count! 12AC6, AD6, AE6, AE7, > AF6, AJ6, AL8, and etc, etc, > > I had NO idea there were that many designed for 12V plate (basically, auto) > use! Why so many??? > Their use in production radios was fairly short, I think the first use of > these was 1956 model year, and they were done by about 1964 I think... > > Mark Oppat > > > I always wondered how the construction of the "12v" tubes differed from "normal" tubes. I know that normal tubes will run fine on LV (BC1206) uses conventional loktals at 28v. I think the 12v tubes had rectangular cathodes and smaller spacing between the elements, probably a special oxcide coating on the cathode as well. Some sets used a space charge tetrode to drive the output transistor. I'm surprised how many used single ended output, a push pull class B output could have used two cheaper transistors than the single ended. (2n301's instead of the DS501). None of these tubes would work well above 50mhz so there were no 12v tube FM radios AFAIK. Then again in the 50's the FM band was a simulcast of the AM band. Wasn't until the mid 60's that FM really took off. From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Mon Jul 25 23:27:40 EDT 2005 Article: 319692 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: echophone ec-1 References: <42e57714$1@nntp.onyx.net> <42e57b9a@nntp.onyx.net> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 18 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 02:23:37 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1122344617 66.65.49.245 (Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:23:37 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 22:23:37 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:319692 In article <42e57b9a@nntp.onyx.net>, Martin Crossley wrote: > Are they the same company as Bussmann here, > who do an amazingly wide range, from car fuses rated at 32Vmax. > to huge things to go in electrical substations? Bussman is (are) owned by Cooper. http://www.bussman.com And yeah, they make all sorts of fuses. While on that subject, I saw (and have) an old British BS-1363 plug with an Eveready fuse!!! And here I thought they only made dry cells and batteries! -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 319693 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: echophone ec-1 Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2005 02:33:22 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <42e57714$1@nntp.onyx.net> <42e57b9a@nntp.onyx.net> In Stephanie Weil writes: >While on that subject, I saw (and have) an old British BS-1363 plug with >an Eveready fuse!!! And here I thought they only made dry cells and >batteries! Kind of an unfortunate brand name for a fuse. One of the few times you'd want a name like "Breaks-quik". :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 319694 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: Political rant. Was Re: Good morning all From: Larry References: <42e57c45@nntp.onyx.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 23:25:32 -0400 "Martin Crossley" wrote in news:42e57c45@nntp.onyx.net: > For once, Britain doesn't sound quite as bad a rip-off as usual! > How much is petrol, now, Martin? It's about $US0.54/litre ($2.25/US gallon) here in Charleston, SC. -- Larry Article: 319695 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Where is the schematic for this radio? From: Larry References: <2pf8e1l25gs87i2i7va1rn9v5v1i04gesq@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 23:26:59 -0400 Blacksmith wrote in news:bp6be1l4b9puo3qs6cjcrhrpslmb32cjhl@4ax.com: > I had to guess what value to replace it with and I want to see if > I got it right. You must have come close. Your customer hasn't called back screaming, yet, has he?...(c; -- Larry