Article: 321440 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: Subject: Re: Shipping from Canada to US? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2005 19:46:20 -0230 "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:IMmdnVP4F6QgX5neRVn-gw@giganews.com... > >I can tell you that I refuse to use UPS for shipping when ordering >> stuff from a U.S. source to go to Canada. Their "brokerage" charge is >> exhorbitant > > The other shoe finally dropped. I paid $40 initially for the shipping from > Ontario to Washington state. This week, UPS sent me a bill for an > additional $21.50 for brokerage charges. So my total cost to ship a > 19-pound package was $61.50. > > Ouch! > > Phil Nelson > I agree. Just received a package 'from' the US; contents comprising new auto parts, valued in US dollars at $229. 75. Converted to dollars Canadian that is $274.48. The brokerage fee alone is $41.17 Canadian and then 15% Canadian HST (Harmonised sales tax is added onto that!). Our total charges for shipping and brokerage was the equivalent of $76.38 US, or 33.2% of the US value of $229.75! I've bought stuff from China and Europe with cheaper shipping/brokerage than that by UPS! Looks like UPS are 'milking' the system? It might be in order if/when buying from the US into Canada to ask shippers to NOT use UPS. These charges must also be discouraging purchases by persons outside the US and thereby affect exports? Maybe UPS will put themselves out of business? Also this current item took at least six (6) days to arrive at our door from the 49858 in Michigan USA, just across the border from Canada! It was invoiced on August 15th, shipped on August 17th and arrived late on August 23rd! That's seven to eight days. Glad it wasn't something urgent! I'd hate to have a computer or a truck out of service for, in effect, a week! And then have to pay weekend overtime for someone to install the material? Hell; don't buy American! We have had fewer charges shipping to/from the US and also to the Middle East using Fed-Ex, whom we find fast, two (2) to three (3) days door to door, from here in Eastern Canada to countries such as Bahrain/Dubai etc. Note about Fed-Ex. We handed a 60 lb. package to our neighbour who works for Fed-Ex on a Monday night. He shipped it to the Middle East the next (Tuesday) morning to a Time zone seven to eight hours ahead of here. My contact was pleased to get a phone call advising that a package had arrived for them, during the Thursday afternoon. Total shipping time was of order of 56 hours; no brokerage fee! That package contained, among other things, new motorcycle parts which had originated in the USA! No subscriber to any conspiracy theory; but it's almost as if someone is trying to disrupt trade between our two countries, by putting up various barriers, adding charges, tariffs etc. All these do is make things cost more and discourage business and exports. In fact just for the heck of it since the US purchased items above were better performance parts for a Japanese vehicle we are refurbishing, we'll just find out what the equivalent cost would have been to bring them in from Japan! We brought in an engine from Japan a couple of years ago and the cost was quite reasonable IIRC. Terry Article: 321441 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: TRUCE! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 16:43:28 GMT Seems that for the past couple weeks, reading/posting on this newsgroup has been an enjoyable experience -- no bashing, flames, or put-downs. But now it all seems to be flaring up again. I'm not going to name names, or nicknames, or handles, or anything else -- but simply make the comment that there's more than one contributor -- apparently several -- who seem to take pleasure in finding opportunities to put others down. Aside from the one comment I'm making now, I'm making a point to stay silent about this. If anyone -- no matter who it is -- asks or answers a question related to old radios that warrants a contribution of my own, I'll answer in due process. If anyone -- no matter who it is -- starts throwing flames or bashing others, I'm out of the conversation. I suggest others act the same way; if we do this newsgroup will be, as it is usually, an enjoyable place to visit. Many many years ago, when I was still in elementary school, I found myself getting picked on relentlessly by other classmates -- and of course it got me quite upset. It took a long time to learn but, I eventually discovered the reason I was picked on in the first place was that I got mad, and this was rather humorous to the others -- so they kept it up. When I quit responding, it was no longer worth the effort for the others. I would suspect that most of us have graduated from elementary school. Let's act accordingly. Remember, if someone else started it, and you responded, you're the one who's responsible for keeping it going. If we all stop, hopefully the trashing will stop for lack of fuel. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 321442 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1124857387.087991.173380@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124860883.606419.262980@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124873530.489706.307340@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <_UYOe.5103$HR5.1916@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1124883688.614924.45540@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124889395.185109.229590@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: My first Catalin!!! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:55:25 -0400 Skippy You're making it into more than a one person campaign. Article: 321443 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Sound and almost a picture.... References: <1124844236.328716.243690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6d6dnR87vqgvQZbeRVn-3A@giganews.com> <1124850992.060179.66670@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124868838.374438.214070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1124868902.731563.68140@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124883888.582070.175980@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124884997.532671.287360@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124911718.473055.254110@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 15:27:19 -0500 tim87529@gmail.com wrote: > Here are the voltages for the video section of the TV set: > > voltages - what I measured/what the schematic says > The power supply voltage was a little higher than usual, with the 155v > line at 180v and the 295v line at 320v. Hmmmm primary B+ is only 8% high - that is reasonable with today's AC line voltages... and lack of full loading. And lack of loading probably accounts for the greater voltage in the secondary B+ (~14%). So looks like your B+ are probably OK, It would be nice to scope them to be sure there isn't a lot of ripple. barring a scope - use an AC voltmeter with a .1mfd 400V cap in series with one lead to measure the 155V line. Should be less than a volt - but may be around that with the light loading... Ripple can play havoc with AGC, etc. (more on AGC in a bit). > Horizontal output, 6BQ6: > > Control grid -39v/-25v > Screen grid 131v/145v > Plate N/A > Cathode 5v/9.4v You have the CRT disconnected - so it's not loaded - and the high (negative) bias would tend to throttle the plate current - and the lower cathode voltage indicates that... probably ok for now. > Horizontal AFC, 1/2 6SN7: > > Grid -42/-22 > Plate 360v/285v > Cathode -8.4v/5.5v > > Horizontal Osc, 1/2 6SN7: > > Grid -119v/-84v > Plate 240v/200v again - throttled a bit... > 6K6, Vert. Mult. / Vert. Output: > > Control grid -52v/-29v > Screen grid 340v/285v > Plate: N/A Throttled a lot - like the yoke disconnected? > 1/2 12AU7, Vertical Multiplier: > > Grid -120v/-48v > Plate 120v/155v > > 1/2 12AU7, Sync Amp: > > Grid 0v/0v > Plate 72v/60v > > 1/2 6AN8, Sync Separator: > > Grid -14v/-3v > Plate 26v/22v > > 1/2 6AN8, Video Amp: > > Control grid 4.4v/4.4v > Screen grid 120v/100v > Plate 71v/85v > Cathode 5.5v/5.3v Again - fairly close considering the high (#2) B+ > 6C4, Video Output - I believe these readings are off due to the CRT > being disconnected.: > > Grid -7v/0v > Plate .01v/245v > Cathode .01v/10v yeah. > 6CB6, 3rd video IF: > > Control grid 0v/0v > Screen grid 170v/150v > Plate 170v?/150v > Cathode 0v/2.1v Hmmmm 0V cathode--- Tube cut clear off (or close to it)? Hmmm bears looking around this circuit - check components, connections, tube pin/socket, etc. > 6CB6, 2nd Video IF. All voltages for this tube taken from the supressor > grid except the voltage for the supressor grid.: > > Control grid -1.5v/-1.2v > Screen grid 148v/135v > Supressor grid 140v/140v > Plate 150v/135v > Cathode .26v/.3v > > 6CF6, 1st Video IF: > > Control grid -.7v/-.4v > Screen grid 160v/130v > Plate 160v/130v > Cathode .9v/.9v Back to reasonable... Check that last IF stage... check the agc to it (if it is a controlled stage - I'm not looking at a schematic). > Also, please take the flame war somewhere else. I can here to ask for > help with my TV set, not to have the thread hijacked by people who have > a bone to pick with each other. yeah. for once were doing some real radio stuff here... Village Idiot not welcome. Back to radio... Several things you've mentioned makes me wonder - have you cleaned all the controls (including the pots on the chassis)? A very noisy AGC pot could be doing what you've noted; and several noisy pots and connections (tube pins in sockets) could make all manner of trouble... which would be intermittent as all get out... Keep at it! best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321444 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Contact Cleaner recommended by HP Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:02:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Remember them? The company that used to make top-notch gear? I happened to be searching thru a Hewlett-Packard manaul from 1994 and came across this: CLEANING SOLUTION Hewlett-Packard recommends using either of two cleaning solutions on printed circuit (PC) board edge connectors. For best cleaning results, we recommend an ammonium hydroxide solution (NH4OH, 29.5% NH3 by weight). But, a concentrated solution of ammonia requires the use of gloves, eye goggles, and proper ventilation. The second recommendation is an 80:20 solution of isopropyl alcohol and water (IPA/H2O). This should serve as a satisfactory cleaner where one would not want to use ammonium hydroxide. This came from the service guide for a QA-100 Quality Adviser, a digital processing amplifier for video. Not that I've whipped up any solutions (gotta luv that precise 29.5%) and tried it, but there you have it. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321445 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1124920720.301186.186950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: TRUCE! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 18:02:08 -0400 "Steven" wrote in message news:1124920720.301186.186950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > That's fine, I'm sick of it too, but I'm tired of "this other party" Skippy, the problem is YOU. You made your own bed. Article: 321446 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Sound and almost a picture.... Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 07:11:56 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1124844236.328716.243690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6d6dnR87vqgvQZbeRVn-3A@giganews.com> <1124850992.060179.66670@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124868838.374438.214070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1124868902.731563.68140@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124883888.582070.175980@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124884997.532671.287360@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124911718.473055.254110@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124919030.955097.164830@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote in message news:1124919030.955097.164830@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Thanks for the really informative reply! > > I kind of figured that the voltages would be a bit whacky without the > yoke or CRT connected and you pretty much confirmed it. > > I have yet to clean anything in this TV set but it sounds like a > logical step to take. Time to get out the De-Oxit.... > > While I'm in there I'll reflow the solder in all the connections I made > just in case a cold solder joint or loose connection is present. > > The 3rd IF was kind of buried in the set and a bit difficult to prod > and take measurements from. I'm going to redo the measurements there > and if the results are the same I'll do some troubleshooting around > that tube. Your AGC voltages (because the AGC is horizontal pulse gated, off the flyback) will be erroneous with the yoke and CRT disconnected, as they are parts of the flyback's tuned circuit. As a TV tech I had a test jig in the shop, but that's not always economical for the hobbyist, so about all you can do to get accurate measurements is to make extension cables for the yoke and CRT, or (and this is never a good idea) remove them from the cabinet and set them up on the bench where they can be connected to the chassis.. Article: 321447 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Shipping from Canada to US? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:57:30 GMT In article , tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca says... > > > >it's almost as if someone is trying to disrupt trade between our two >countries, by putting up various barriers, adding charges, tariffs etc. All >these do is make things cost more and discourage business and exports. >Terry > > NEVER NEVER EVER USE UPS TO SHIP TO CANADA... Post Office is the only way to go that I know of... yes they still hose you Canadians... but not near what UPS does to you... and it IS a Canadian Problem this HST Tax and other taxes imposed by Canadians on USA imports.... don't know of ANY taxes that are charged to USA resisdents on Incoming from Canada?.. John k9uwa Article: 321448 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: TRUCE! From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1124921226.542855.233960@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 23:02:10 GMT In article <1124921226.542855.233960@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, ManyRumours@lycos.com says... > > >Sorry Mr. Bertini, several of you built it. > No Skippy it is U that is the real problem.... yes a couple of guys have begun seriously picking on you each time you raise your screwed up head.... but trust me... the rest of us all feel the same way... you can look up the last 100 or so Skippy Posts and there won't be more than one or two of them that had any contribution to the thread.... just drivel... John k9uwa Article: 321449 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Adam Stouffer Subject: Re: WANTED: Vintage Tektronix Equipement References: <1124732720.799840.70380@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1124740778.330589.99030@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <287Pe.2916$k92.2274@trndny05> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 23:10:54 GMT Bret Ludwig wrote: > The old Tek scopes are either too much work to keep going, or have > mostly been used so heavily they are no longer usable. There are no > more parts for DESIRABLE Tek scopes! Tek has not made an actual > oscilloscope in nearly ten years and the last ones (the TAS series) > were crude and nearly unusable. > Hehe I had one and thought about trying to get it back into shape for audio work. Then I saw the sticker on the plugin with a calibration date due for 1965. $200-300 on ebay will get you something decent. In fact if you ebayed all the ceramic terminal strips in a tek scope you could probably pay for a newer one. Adam Article: 321450 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:19:52 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: How to Use an Ammmeter [Ampmeter?] References: Message-ID: Williams wrote: > > Now, the digital thingy I picked up for 20 bucks, new, ebay, has a > setting for 20 amps. I ain't gonna, but I presume I could plug a power line > cut from a radio into the wall, and attach leads to each end where the cut > was made--- without explosion, fire, and sudden death. > This last is not entirely w/o merit, inasmuch as I calculate a 1300W > space heater has to pull 11 Amps and much more would pop a circuit breaker > [famous last words]. One of my youthful stoopid stunts was to take an old auto ammeter and hook it directly to the wall outlet to see "how many amps it had". If you think about this for half a second Jimmy you'll understand what the result would be. My meter, your meter, most any high-current ammeter, is basically a dead short resistance wise to the 120 volts ac. You can expect it to pull maybe hundreds of amps for a brief instant until it blows all to hell and leaves you holding a black thing. Clue...the space heater has some appreciable resistance so it only heats up. Ohms Law again. -Bill M Article: 321451 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:25:05 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Shipping from Canada to US? References: Message-ID: <7934$430d01d5$4232bdf9$25980@COQUI.NET> John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > other taxes imposed by Canadians on USA imports.... don't know of > ANY taxes that are charged to USA resisdents on Incoming from Canada?.. The deal is that US Customs CAN charge taxes if they feel like it. And they CAN oblige UPS (or whoever) to broker these things. Fortunately they don't, at least not with small parcels. The only time I had to pay any import duty on anything from Canada was on a Gem Quad ham antenna. It was shipped via truck and I got socked with brokerage fees and duty. -Bill M Article: 321452 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: How to Use an Ammmeter [Ampmeter?] References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:42:41 -0400 Your reading will be wrong if you plug the meter into an empty tube socket. Without that tube you'll draw more curren than normal. The best way is make up an extension cord with a plug on one end and clip leads on the other. Use this to connect to your radio cord, inserting the AC amp meter in series with one side. Your initial reading will be only the current pulled by the tubes. As they heat up, B+ current will be added to that. If you want just the tube current, break the fil string anywhere in the string and insert the AC amp meter. Ken Williams wrote: > I understand the ammeter needs to be in series in order to measure. > That means [small brain gets busy] I can pull a series tube that has > filaments at pins 2 & 7, shove a lead into each pinhole and voila! > Or, use a top-of-chassis tube socket adapter, numbered. > Now, the digital thingy I picked up for 20 bucks, new, ebay, has a > setting for 20 amps. I ain't gonna, but I presume I could plug a power line > cut from a radio into the wall, and attach leads to each end where the cut > was made--- without explosion, fire, and sudden death. > This last is not entirely w/o merit, inasmuch as I calculate a 1300W > space heater has to pull 11 Amps and much more would pop a circuit breaker > [famous last words]. > > > Article: 321453 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1124857387.087991.173380@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124903183.271233.197680@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: My first Catalin!!! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 23:56:11 GMT The front piece is definitely Catalin. No doubt about it. It was originally a very dark green color with white swirl. I have a vague recollection of having seen an original ad for one of these, but I don't recall it saying anything about the material. In fact, most of the ads I have seen for Catalin radios never mentioned the "C" word unless, of course, the cases were actually made by the Catalin Corporation. A number of companies made the same material and called it by their own preferred trade name (e.g. Fiberlon, Marblette, Opalon, and yes, even Bakelite). -- Mike Schultz wrote in message news:1124903183.271233.197680@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I'm not sure you're right Mark. The front panel is a very thick > material, nearly 1/2", and it does have a dull thud to it. Underneath > the tuning knob I can see into the material where it is rough around > the hole, it is marbled all the way thru and has the expected > translucency of Catalin. > > This RCA also dates from about '47 and I've seen several references to > it that describe it as Catalin. The Riders for it calls the case a > "Jewel Box" case. > > However, neither you or I can prove it either way, unless someone can > come up with an ad for this radio that describes the material. > > Terry > From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Fri Aug 26 17:58:29 EDT 2005 Article: 321454 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Contact Cleaner recommended by HP References: <1124925969.126019.29380@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 12 Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 23:55:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1124927708 66.65.49.245 (Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:55:08 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 19:55:08 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:321454 In article <1124925969.126019.29380@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Steven wrote: > How many gold plated traces do I find? I assume it will do some bit of Open up one of your computers some-day. The traces that jut out on little tabs designed to stick into sockets on other boards are normally gold-plated. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 321455 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Sangamo Weston Model E772 (Type 4) analyzer Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 02:16:39 +0200 Message-ID: References: <430bb88c$0$22952$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net> Martin Crossley wrote: > Georg Richter wrote: > > The Sangamo Weston Model E772 (Type 4) analyzer > > Any idea about the meaning of "A.M.10S/13017"? > > > Hello Georg, > I think > A.M. 10S/13017 > (A^M?) > =(British) Air Ministry (RAF) type number. > (since 10E/xxxx is common for valves, often = CVxxxx) > Martin. Martin, thanks for your input. Seems to be exempted from military service by the British Forces in Germany. Kind Regards, Georg Article: 321456 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 18:15:20 -0600 Message-ID: <2497-430D0D98-128@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1cc8b$43092a9a$4232bd3d$10116@COQUI.NET> 25. I don't have any fabric glue so I always use something else. If I was stuck with only one single way to solve a simple problem I'd ..... What happens when you run out of solder or lacquer ? or whiskey :-) Article: 321457 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: OT, The Total score!!! Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 18:29:02 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1124818235.037307.255650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Bob...Terry...do either one of you collect E/M pins ?? I do. Ben "Bob in Phx" wrote in message news:VEROe.2320$sw6.1568@fed1read05... > Ok,,, this is totally off topic, but .... Williams system 3-9 (or higher I > just don't remember) used a PIA chip. The 6821. Its a 1 MHZ analog to > digital input device adapter. The monitor had 4 each in sockets. The last > time I had to buy one locally it was 14.95. I've since found them on the > net at 4.95 each...I am currently working on a system 6 Williams firepower > that is mysteriously locking solenoids. I have narrowed it down to the > 6821. So a little soldering work and since I now have the parts to finish > the firepower project,,,,,, pinball by the weekend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > bob in phx. .. > wrote in message > news:1124818235.037307.255650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >> Bob, what from a monitor would work in a pinball machine???? >> Nice finds. >> >> Terry S >> (fellow pinball nut) >> > > Article: 321458 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1cc8b$43092a9a$4232bd3d$10116@COQUI.NET> <2497-430D0D98-128@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:42:29 -0400 "Ken G." wrote in message news:2497-430D0D98-128@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... > 25. I don't have any fabric glue so I always use something else. If I > was stuck with only one single way to solve a simple problem I'd ..... > > What happens when you run out of solder or lacquer ? or whiskey :-) > Hi Ken I'm sure they are several good ways to mend the speaker, and likewise, several not so spiffy ways to mend a speaker.... Fabric glue works great, but I've use other stuff. You need to start a thread about lacquer and solder substitutes!!! Beer is a good sub for whiskey when drunk in copious quantities. Pete Article: 321459 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Shipping from Canada to US? Message-ID: References: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 00:51:10 GMT Just to clarify: GST, and HST, which is simply federal GST "harmonized" with the applicable provincial sales tax, are applicable to goods and services of Canadian origin and to imported goods alike. It is not really a "duty" in the traditional sense, and it would apply to any and all imports of goods that would be taxable if they were made in Canada. It is really a form of value-added tax, and should not be viewed as discriminating against imports. And it is applicable to imports from all countries. If I buy a 12AQ7 from a dealer in Calgary, I will pay 7% GST. If I buy one from the USA, I will pay 7% GST on the tube, and on the shipping. I may still save in the end, if the tube is significantly cheaper Stateside. More so if I buy a quantity. Gordon Richmond Article: 321460 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: How to Use an Ammmeter [Ampmeter?] Message-ID: References: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 01:01:11 GMT Aha! Another user of the dread "Death Cord" :>) Useful thing to have around. And its name is not entirely undeserved. One does have to be careful. Really, really careful. Gordon Richmond Article: 321461 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1cc8b$43092a9a$4232bd3d$10116@COQUI.NET> <2497-430D0D98-128@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker Message-ID: <1124931863.7ee9e17b84e26bc7dbd09a4d88762d91@teranews> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:04:18 -0500 " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:Zt8Pe.854$mH.605@fed1read07... > You need to start a thread about lacquer and solder substitutes!!! > Beer is a good sub for whiskey when drunk in copious quantities. I'd call it an acceptable sub, not a good one. Application of a sufficient quantity of beer to adequately compensate for the effects of whiskey will tend to create gas problems.. Better subs might be Southern Comfort, brandy or cognac, to taste. Personally I make sure to keep large quantities of whiskey on hand at all times, to ensure substitution is never necessary. :) Off-topically yours, paul Article: 321462 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Simpson VOM References: <4uydnZ2dnZ3ihOmYnZ2dnULgm96dnZ2dRVn-0J2dnZ0@bresnan.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:37:53 -0500 Warren Weber wrote: > Randy. I thanked you in a previeous post. Warren I confess I didn't see that - however looking back at the archives I do indeed see where you thanked me in advance. I hereby humbly and genuinely apologize for the error/oversight and falsely besmirching of your reputation. back in the corner with me... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321463 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: How to Use an Ammmeter [Ampmeter?] References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:49:59 -0400 That's why I built two meter jacks into a plastic outlet box. Plug the meter into the jacks, the appliance into the outlet, don't touch anything with your tongue, you will live through it. Ken Gordon Richmond wrote: > Aha! Another user of the dread "Death Cord" :>) > > Useful thing to have around. And its name is not entirely undeserved. > One does have to be careful. Really, really careful. > > Gordon Richmond Article: 321464 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <430BD1B3.EF5863CA@flash.net> From: Bill & Val McKeown Subject: Mystery Radio Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 01:50:20 GMT When I was a kid, a relative gave me a radio that I fixed up and had on my desk in college.  I am really perplexed that I can't remember the brand and have never seen another one like it!  I do remember the following:
It was translucent red - very red.
It was about a 10 inches wide by 5 inches deep by 8 inches high.
The pilot light made the cabinet glow beautifully through the red (Plaskon?)
It had a nice bright tuning eye that I think was located near the top middle.
The tubes were '30's types.
It had a warm-line-cord ballast.
I'm pretty sure it was a TRF.
It had the volume control that changes the cathode resistor of the first tube and shunts the antenna coil.

Anybody have a guess as to what it might have been?

If I ever see another one like it, I'm sure I will recognize it and I will simply have to have it!!

Bill McKeown Article: 321465 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Simpson VOM References: <4uydnZ2dnZ3ihOmYnZ2dnULgm96dnZ2dRVn-0J2dnZ0@bresnan.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 20:58:21 -0500 this incident reminds me of an appropriate cartoon... http://www.mississippi.net/~comcents/sometimes.jpg I'll hang this in the corner to remind myself... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321466 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <430D26F8.F3533BDB@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: OT: Mercedes Harmonic Balancer "Campaign" OT References: <1124932231.652640.91400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:03:36 -0400 Peter, Don't feel bad, my harmonic balancer broke on my 1992 Ford Tempo too.... :-) Regards, Sal Brisindi Peter Wieck wrote: > Mercedes Benz has an open campaign to replace Harmonic Balancers for > certain of its vehicles, mostly those with the 3.2 liter V6. What > happens is that the balancer will fail without warning, causing the > serpentine belt to sieze and often stopping the engine altogether. This > will then cause loss of steering and braking power (at least). > Typically it happens with vehicles with more than seventy-five (75,000) > thousand miles on them, but can happen at any age or mileage to those > vehicles affected. > > Mercedes has known of this defect for a while and initiated the > campaign in April of this year. As of this date, they have not notified > any individual owners, nor do they appear to intend to do so. > > How do I know this? > > That they fail: Coming off the downstroke of the Verrazano Narrows > Bridge from Brooklyn into Staten Island. Luckily I was going less than > 30 mph (just after the tolls) and was more-or-less accidentally pointed > towards a shoulder. I used a sloped embankment to help me stop the > vehicle, my 230 lbs on the pedal was not quite enough. That all the > other drivers of a Tuesday afternoon missed me illustrates the concept > of a guardian angel. That it did not happen some 40 minutes earlier > when I was on the Long Island Expressway, or 10 minutes later when I > would have been on the Goethals Bridge suggest that this same Angel was > a true professional. The belt siezed when the balancer broke loose, > stopping the engine cold. > > That there is a recall: When I arrived at the dealer in Edison, NJ, > their service advisor stated that the damage would be repaired at no > cost (it also took out the upper oil pan, damaged the fan and minor > other stuff). > > That this is not a "recent" issue: When I spoke to the Mercedes > Customer Service group. They also stated that they had no intention of > making the recall official "at this time". > > So, those of you who drive Mercedes vehicles equipped with a serpentine > belt and an harmonic balancer, get in touch with your dealership ASAP > and check its status re: the "campaign". Were it to fail at-speed with > your wife or child (or yourself if not large and strong) driving, the > vehicle would be uncontrollable. Not a fun situation. This happens > WITHOUT WARNING. Warn friends of yours who also drive such vehicles. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA Article: 321467 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <430D286A.5118FD98@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: How to Use an Ammmeter [Ampmeter?] References: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:09:46 -0400 About 15 years ago I had a Radio Shack digital meter with a blown fuse. I did what any red blooded American would do, wrap foil around the fuse.... until I had it on the wrong setting and wanted to measured the voltage from an outlet. Well, I think every trace on the circuit board inside the meter disintegrated, no trace to be found.. kind of reminds me connecting a neon bulb without its resistor in an outlet.. Sal Brisindi -ex- wrote: > Williams wrote: > > > > > Now, the digital thingy I picked up for 20 bucks, new, ebay, has a > > setting for 20 amps. I ain't gonna, but I presume I could plug a power line > > cut from a radio into the wall, and attach leads to each end where the cut > > was made--- without explosion, fire, and sudden death. > > This last is not entirely w/o merit, inasmuch as I calculate a 1300W > > space heater has to pull 11 Amps and much more would pop a circuit breaker > > [famous last words]. > > One of my youthful stoopid stunts was to take an old auto ammeter and > hook it directly to the wall outlet to see "how many amps it had". > > If you think about this for half a second Jimmy you'll understand what > the result would be. My meter, your meter, most any high-current > ammeter, is basically a dead short resistance wise to the 120 volts ac. > You can expect it to pull maybe hundreds of amps for a brief instant > until it blows all to hell and leaves you holding a black thing. > > Clue...the space heater has some appreciable resistance so it only heats > up. Ohms Law again. > > -Bill M Article: 321468 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" Subject: Replace 30-year-old e-caps? Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:11:35 -0500 Message-ID: <430d27e3$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> Hi all So here I am recapping this Philco Model C car radio from a '34 Nash. Obviously has been worked on relatively recently. Speaker is a replacement; there's some newer wiring. The radio actually worked very well on first power-up. Lots of paper and Micamold caps inside though...... So I find the can that holds the filter caps, and to my surprise when I unbolted it found inside two "Herald" brand caps. Correct value, date stamped 1976. Keep in mind this isn't my radio; it's a paid repair job. I haven't pulled the caps to check for leakage. If I do that and find them acceptable, should I replace these nearly 30-year-old caps, or should they be expected to give years of good service yet? Any thoughts? Thanks much Paul Article: 321469 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: How to Use an Ammmeter [Ampmeter?] From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: <39aPe.278272$_o.49943@attbi_s71> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 02:36:47 GMT In article , richmond@telusplanet.net says... > > >Aha! Another user of the dread "Death Cord" :>) > >Useful thing to have around. And its name is not entirely undeserved. >One does have to be careful. Really, really careful. > >Gordon Richmond I call it my "Non-OSHA Approved" AC Line Cord!... bare gator clips on the open ends.... I DID make each of those ends different lengths so that just pitching the thing on the bench.. usually it doesn't spark and pop the breaker!... John k9uwa Article: 321470 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Mystery Radio From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <430BD1B3.EF5863CA@flash.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 02:41:39 GMT In article <430BD1B3.EF5863CA@flash.net>, wilmac@flash.net says... > > >

Bill McKeown > please turn off your HTML when posting to a newsgroup... makes it easier for us to read... Eye tube.. that places the radio at 1938 to 1941 age so NO its not a TRF radio...has to be superhet. warm line cord... early version of AA5 or AA6 set.. tubes probably something like 43 and 25z5 the others 6 volters plus the linecord to eat up the rest of the series string.. John k9uwa Article: 321471 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1cc8b$43092a9a$4232bd3d$10116@COQUI.NET> <2497-430D0D98-128@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <5gaPe.275651$x96.45202@attbi_s72> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 02:44:17 GMT In article <2497-430D0D98-128@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net>, goodguyy@webtv.net says... > > > >What happens when you run out of solder or lacquer ? or whiskey :-) > grab the Brandy Bottle! John k9uwa Article: 321472 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Bill Turner? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: <3kaPe.278281$_o.233954@attbi_s71> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 02:48:31 GMT In article , dmign@earthlink.net says... > > >Thanks to everyone for the replies about Bills' address. >And I too would like to know how Bill is doing. Let's hear from someone who >knows or better yet from Bill himself. > >DON Bill is back home... expect to hear from him probably tomorrow he will get his internet fired up .... John k9uwa Article: 321473 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: craigm Subject: Re: How to Use an Ammmeter [Ampmeter?] References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:49:43 -0500 Williams wrote: > I understand the ammeter needs to be in series in order to measure. > That means [small brain gets busy] I can pull a series tube that has > filaments at pins 2 & 7, shove a lead into each pinhole and voila! > Or, use a top-of-chassis tube socket adapter, numbered. > Now, the digital thingy I picked up for 20 bucks, new, ebay, has a > setting for 20 amps. I ain't gonna, but I presume I could plug a power line > cut from a radio into the wall, and attach leads to each end where the cut > was made--- without explosion, fire, and sudden death. > This last is not entirely w/o merit, inasmuch as I calculate a 1300W > space heater has to pull 11 Amps and much more would pop a circuit breaker > [famous last words]. > > > All the replies imply your digital meter measures AC and not DC. I don't know what you have, but if it is for DC, it won't work for AC. If you want to measure AC line currents, you can get a cheal clamp on ammeter from Home Depot or othe DIY stores and make a cord with a separated section of insulated wire so you can clamp on a single conductor. You do not need to have any unsafe, uninsulated wires to be able to measure AC currents. craigm Article: 321474 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Building a web page From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 02:51:59 GMT In article , benjamaniac@yahoo.com says... > > > I'm web page >building illerate. Does anyone know of any fool proof programs to do this >with ?? I think I'll need al the help I can get on this one. > Ben > > OK Ben ... did you get it up and running yet? John k9uwa Article: 321475 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Sound and almost a picture.... Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:20:26 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1124844236.328716.243690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6d6dnR87vqgvQZbeRVn-3A@giganews.com> <1124850992.060179.66670@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124868838.374438.214070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1124868902.731563.68140@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124883888.582070.175980@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124884997.532671.287360@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124911718.473055.254110@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124919030.955097.164830@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124925439.525143.258620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1124937533.982807.265620@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> wrote in message news:1124937533.982807.265620@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > Here's a picture of the screen. It's very dim (but the CRT isn't burnt > out or weak) and hard to photograph. As you can see, the picture fades > out. What appears to be blank screen does have a very dim picture that > can only be view when the room is completely dark. > > http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs43&d=05344&f=100_0277.jpg > You definately have unfiltered horizontal sweep frequency getting into the control grid or cathode of the CRT. Also your horizontal sweep frequency is off by several hundred hertz. Article: 321476 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 23:27:33 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker References: <1cc8b$43092a9a$4232bd3d$10116@COQUI.NET> <2497-430D0D98-128@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Ken G. wrote: > 25. I don't have any fabric glue so I always use something else. If I > was stuck with only one single way to solve a simple problem I'd ..... > > What happens when you run out of solder or lacquer ? or whiskey :-) > I go to the store and buy more. Nowhere here sells fabric glue and many other things work just as well. -Bill Article: 321477 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: My first Catalin!!! Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 23:35:34 -0400 Message-ID: <11gqf4ci34bsj19@news.supernews.com> References: <1124857387.087991.173380@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124903183.271233.197680@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> > A number of companies made the same material and called it by their own > preferred trade name (e.g. Fiberlon, Marblette, Opalon, and yes, even > Bakelite). > > -- > Mike Schultz Of course, today we call that last type you mention "bakerlite" -- "Stay calm. Be brave. Wait for the signs." regards, Frank Johansen Aurora, Ontario Article: 321478 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Simpson VOM References: <4uydnZ2dnZ3ihOmYnZ2dnULgm96dnZ2dRVn-0J2dnZ0@bresnan.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 23:15:12 -0500 Warren Weber wrote: > Ok. 3 lashes with a wet wash cloth. Warren Oh - please NO! No... hmm... Thank you sir- may I have another? (nose now firmly in the corner) -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321479 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: My first Catalin!!! Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 00:16:39 -0400 Message-ID: <11gqhhki748hi2e@news.supernews.com> References: <1124857387.087991.173380@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124903183.271233.197680@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:UOmdneZhlrQF3JDeRVn-qQ@comcast.com... > Well, > I could be wrong, it happened once. But, I seem to recall having > handled > this set at a show and I didnt think it was Catalin. Hmmm. > > Kris Gimmy, or Steve Turner, or any other catalin experts might know > offhand. > > Mark Oppat So, is anyone aware of a test for Catalin? -- "Give me ambiguity or give me something else!" regards, Frank Johansen Aurora, Ontario Article: 321480 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: My first Catalin!!! Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 00:19:03 -0400 Message-ID: <11gqhlvmpf0cmda@news.supernews.com> References: <1124857387.087991.173380@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11gnuvsh08v624d@news.supernews.com> <1124860257.986129.63780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "michaeljpro" wrote in message news:1124860257.986129.63780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Congrats Terry, I found one of these last year at an antique shop for a > real bargain. Someone on the group here told me the metal grill is > actually gold plated!? > Hey Frank, hope all is well. Yep, that front chunk of the radio is > catalin, a nice thick slab of it. The back is not, perhaps plaskon? Hiya, Michael, good to see you . So, how can you be sure it's Catalin? Just curious if you knew it from seeing the material, or...? -- "Happiness is a state of mind. Not happy? Change your mind." regards, Frank Johansen Aurora, Ontario Article: 321481 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: My first Catalin!!! References: <1124857387.087991.173380@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124903183.271233.197680@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 23:25:07 -0500 (this is a general "information" post - and not a reply to any individual or individual's post, opinion, etc. - also known as - you'd think I'd learn to keep out of stuff... naw...) Anyway: Harry Poster's Radio & Television Price Guide Second Edition, page 69, left hand column, bottom entry: 54B5 - "Solitaire," 1947, deluxe portable, Catalin panel behind dial, gold plating on trim, $75. back in the corner... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321482 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <1124818235.037307.255650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT, The Total score!!! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:29:25 -0700 EM's,,, no I've had a few, but I normally don't... but like all things,,, if the price is right!!!! An EM got me started... I moved out at 18 and found a beat up old EM at a thrift shop for 25.00. I fixed it and we played it (very drunk) for years. I moved into the "little house" just west of ASU and didn't have room for it. In a drunken state, my pals and I decided that we missed the pin, so we decided we could fit it in the house, if it was smaller.... We hit upon the idea of using the body for a coffee table and the head as wall art. Armed with miles of cable from one of the guys who was working at an alarm company, We hung the head on the wall and created a long umbilical cord from the body on the floor, to the head on the wall. It worked great!!! You would sit at the end of the body, play pinball, drink, eat and watch TV all at once... Of course, any sane person wouldn't try this, but once you got used to tripping on the umbilical cord (covered in three full rolls of electrical tape) it was cool!!!!. I don't collect, I just fix pins for kids to play with and or help others fix theirs... Nothing like a day of board work, then have the kids come out to "test" the machine... Bob in PHX "Benjamaniac" wrote in message news:dej3ck$i7k$1@news3.infoave.net... > Bob...Terry...do either one of you collect E/M pins ?? I do. > Ben > > > "Bob in Phx" wrote in message > news:VEROe.2320$sw6.1568@fed1read05... >> Ok,,, this is totally off topic, but .... Williams system 3-9 (or higher >> I just don't remember) used a PIA chip. The 6821. Its a 1 MHZ analog to >> digital input device adapter. The monitor had 4 each in sockets. The last >> time I had to buy one locally it was 14.95. I've since found them on the >> net at 4.95 each...I am currently working on a system 6 Williams >> firepower that is mysteriously locking solenoids. I have narrowed it down >> to the 6821. So a little soldering work and since I now have the parts to >> finish the firepower project,,,,,, pinball by the weekend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >> >> bob in phx. .. >> wrote in message >> news:1124818235.037307.255650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >>> Bob, what from a monitor would work in a pinball machine???? >>> Nice finds. >>> >>> Terry S >>> (fellow pinball nut) >>> >> >> > > Article: 321483 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <1124921226.542855.233960@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: TRUCE! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:41:42 -0700 I second John's sentiment. Pure drivel. I also have say that Kill files are useless as the name is changed daily if not more. All in an attempt get attention. Just my opinion, which I am entitled to have and express!!! bob in phx "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:S%6Pe.304078$xm3.107500@attbi_s21... > In article <1124921226.542855.233960@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > ManyRumours@lycos.com says... >> >> >>Sorry Mr. Bertini, several of you built it. >> > No Skippy it is U that is the real problem.... yes a couple of guys > have begun seriously picking on you each time you raise your > screwed up head.... but trust me... the rest of us all feel the > same way... you can look up the last 100 or so Skippy Posts and > there won't be more than one or two of them that had any contribution > to the thread.... just drivel... > John k9uwa > Article: 321484 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Re: Building a web page Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 23:00:27 -0600 Message-ID: References: "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:jnaPe.275659$x96.145069@attbi_s72... > In article , benjamaniac@yahoo.com says... > > > > > > I'm web page > >building illerate. Does anyone know of any fool proof programs to do this > >with ?? I think I'll need al the help I can get on this one. > > Ben > > > > > OK Ben ... did you get it up and running yet? > > John k9uwa > John, I'm working on it as I type this. Shouldn't be too much longer. Ben Article: 321485 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: How much is enough Skippy? [was: Re: Contact Cleaner recommended From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1124929119.200257.311480@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124934852.220362.194950@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <3HaPe.4720$Q82.1566@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 05:12:52 GMT In article , arc5@ix.netcom.com says... > > >I vote to keep him; >As long as he's here, people aren't ragging on *me*.... heh heh... > Nope Dave is OK... Skippy should GO AWAY this WILL BE my LAST post about and TO Skippy.... After this..... its total silence to and about... suggest that others do the same John k9uwa Article: 321486 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Sound and almost a picture.... Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:00:08 -0700 Message-ID: <12354-430D5058-15@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> References: Tim, A question - have you got the aquadag (conductive coating on the CRT bell) grounded to the chassis? If not, you can get some really wild effects mimicking sync problems. It can also the produce the half-screen horizontal blanking effect you have there. Also, how have you verifed the CRT has good emission? It sure looks weak in the photo. Bill(oc) Article: 321487 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Scott W. Harvey Subject: Re: OT: Mercedes Harmonic Balancer "Campaign" OT Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 21:54:38 -0700 Message-ID: <5lhqg1t6oo3uib4le2q48idomdgbrpflpo@4ax.com> References: <1124932231.652640.91400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <430D26F8.F3533BDB@optonline.net> Hmmm.....This would have never happened in the old days. It almost sounds like Daimler's merger with Chrysler is slowly poisoning the well. The only reason it hasn't been publicized is that no one has been killed yet. Peter's account reminds me of what happened to me about 15 years ago in my '75 MBZ 230. What a great car.....excellent handling, plenty of interior room, leather seats and decent climate control and sound system. A bit gutless, but I could do 90 mph on the freeway with it, so I didn't care. I loved that car, thought I would keep it forever. One day, without warning, on a very narrow, windy, cliff-laden mountain road, the brake pedal went to the floor. By the grace of God, Allah, Buddha or whatever, the car was going uphill at the time and there was a looong driveway that went steeply uphill less than 1/8th mile away (one of only two uphill driveways on that 15+ mile stretch of road). I was able to stall the car and have it coast uphill to a stop. I had the car towed to my mechanic, who couldn't find anything wrong with the brakes. I had him do complete brake job anyway, but my distrust of the car from that day forward destroyed any romantic notions I had about keeping it for a long time. It was gone in less than six months after that. The guy who bought it from me has kept in touch and has never had any problems with it. What happened to Peter would make my pants go brown....I'm not sure I could keep a car that had such a catastrophic failure, especially considering that I now have three kids. -Scott On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:03:36 -0400, Sal Brisindi wrote: >Peter, >Don't feel bad, my harmonic balancer broke on my 1992 Ford Tempo too.... >:-) > >Regards, >Sal Brisindi > > > >Peter Wieck wrote: > >> Mercedes Benz has an open campaign to replace Harmonic Balancers for >> certain of its vehicles, mostly those with the 3.2 liter V6. What >> happens is that the balancer will fail without warning, causing the >> serpentine belt to sieze and often stopping the engine altogether. This >> will then cause loss of steering and braking power (at least). >> Typically it happens with vehicles with more than seventy-five (75,000) >> thousand miles on them, but can happen at any age or mileage to those >> vehicles affected. >> >> Mercedes has known of this defect for a while and initiated the >> campaign in April of this year. As of this date, they have not notified >> any individual owners, nor do they appear to intend to do so. >> >> How do I know this? >> >> That they fail: Coming off the downstroke of the Verrazano Narrows >> Bridge from Brooklyn into Staten Island. Luckily I was going less than >> 30 mph (just after the tolls) and was more-or-less accidentally pointed >> towards a shoulder. I used a sloped embankment to help me stop the >> vehicle, my 230 lbs on the pedal was not quite enough. That all the >> other drivers of a Tuesday afternoon missed me illustrates the concept >> of a guardian angel. That it did not happen some 40 minutes earlier >> when I was on the Long Island Expressway, or 10 minutes later when I >> would have been on the Goethals Bridge suggest that this same Angel was >> a true professional. The belt siezed when the balancer broke loose, >> stopping the engine cold. >> >> That there is a recall: When I arrived at the dealer in Edison, NJ, >> their service advisor stated that the damage would be repaired at no >> cost (it also took out the upper oil pan, damaged the fan and minor >> other stuff). >> >> That this is not a "recent" issue: When I spoke to the Mercedes >> Customer Service group. They also stated that they had no intention of >> making the recall official "at this time". >> >> So, those of you who drive Mercedes vehicles equipped with a serpentine >> belt and an harmonic balancer, get in touch with your dealership ASAP >> and check its status re: the "campaign". Were it to fail at-speed with >> your wife or child (or yourself if not large and strong) driving, the >> vehicle would be uncontrollable. Not a fun situation. This happens >> WITHOUT WARNING. Warn friends of yours who also drive such vehicles. >> >> Peter Wieck >> Wyncote, PA DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Thousands of vintage radio schematics available at The Schematic Bank: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/schematics/ Archive of Alt.Binaries.Pictures.Radio postings: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/abpr/ Universal Schematic Locator-finds schematics in Rider, Beitman, and Sams: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/USL_FILES/uslpage.htm Article: 321488 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <1124910763.134449.205110@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT, The Total score!!! Message-ID: <8PcPe.2513$sw6.411@fed1read05> Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:38:10 -0700 Terry, Its a 5245l with the 5253a plug in. Here is a link to a picture. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HP-5245L-Electronic-Counter_W0QQitemZ7540691803QQcategoryZ25401QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://www.fullnet.com/u/tomg/hp5245l.htm If you or anyone is interested, please email me directly... Love to trade!!!! bob in phx wrote in message news:1124910763.134449.205110@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > Bob, tell me about the nixie tube counter! > > Terry. > Article: 321489 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <1124932231.652640.91400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <430D26F8.F3533BDB@optonline.net> <5lhqg1t6oo3uib4le2q48idomdgbrpflpo@4ax.com> Subject: Re: OT: Mercedes Harmonic Balancer "Campaign" OT Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 06:05:25 GMT Would this include a 1996 diesel? Omer P.S. A better name for Daimler-Chrysler is, "Chry-cedes"! "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:5lhqg1t6oo3uib4le2q48idomdgbrpflpo@4ax.com... > Hmmm.....This would have never happened in the old days. It almost > sounds like Daimler's merger with Chrysler is slowly poisoning the > well. > > The only reason it hasn't been publicized is that no one has been > killed yet. > > Peter's account reminds me of what happened to me about 15 years ago > in my '75 MBZ 230. What a great car.....excellent handling, plenty of > interior room, leather seats and decent climate control and sound > system. A bit gutless, but I could do 90 mph on the freeway with it, > so I didn't care. I loved that car, thought I would keep it forever. > One day, without warning, on a very narrow, windy, cliff-laden > mountain road, the brake pedal went to the floor. By the grace of God, > Allah, Buddha or whatever, the car was going uphill at the time and > there was a looong driveway that went steeply uphill less than 1/8th > mile away (one of only two uphill driveways on that 15+ mile stretch > of road). I was able to stall the car and have it coast uphill to a > stop. I had the car towed to my mechanic, who couldn't find anything > wrong with the brakes. I had him do complete brake job anyway, but my > distrust of the car from that day forward destroyed any romantic > notions I had about keeping it for a long time. It was gone in less > than six months after that. The guy who bought it from me has kept in > touch and has never had any problems with it. > > What happened to Peter would make my pants go brown....I'm not sure I > could keep a car that had such a catastrophic failure, especially > considering that I now have three kids. > > -Scott > > > On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 22:03:36 -0400, Sal Brisindi > wrote: > >>Peter, >>Don't feel bad, my harmonic balancer broke on my 1992 Ford Tempo too.... >>:-) >> >>Regards, >>Sal Brisindi >> >> >> >>Peter Wieck wrote: >> >>> Mercedes Benz has an open campaign to replace Harmonic Balancers for >>> certain of its vehicles, mostly those with the 3.2 liter V6. What >>> happens is that the balancer will fail without warning, causing the >>> serpentine belt to sieze and often stopping the engine altogether. This >>> will then cause loss of steering and braking power (at least). >>> Typically it happens with vehicles with more than seventy-five (75,000) >>> thousand miles on them, but can happen at any age or mileage to those >>> vehicles affected. >>> >>> Mercedes has known of this defect for a while and initiated the >>> campaign in April of this year. As of this date, they have not notified >>> any individual owners, nor do they appear to intend to do so. >>> >>> How do I know this? >>> >>> That they fail: Coming off the downstroke of the Verrazano Narrows >>> Bridge from Brooklyn into Staten Island. Luckily I was going less than >>> 30 mph (just after the tolls) and was more-or-less accidentally pointed >>> towards a shoulder. I used a sloped embankment to help me stop the >>> vehicle, my 230 lbs on the pedal was not quite enough. That all the >>> other drivers of a Tuesday afternoon missed me illustrates the concept >>> of a guardian angel. That it did not happen some 40 minutes earlier >>> when I was on the Long Island Expressway, or 10 minutes later when I >>> would have been on the Goethals Bridge suggest that this same Angel was >>> a true professional. The belt siezed when the balancer broke loose, >>> stopping the engine cold. >>> >>> That there is a recall: When I arrived at the dealer in Edison, NJ, >>> their service advisor stated that the damage would be repaired at no >>> cost (it also took out the upper oil pan, damaged the fan and minor >>> other stuff). >>> >>> That this is not a "recent" issue: When I spoke to the Mercedes >>> Customer Service group. They also stated that they had no intention of >>> making the recall official "at this time". >>> >>> So, those of you who drive Mercedes vehicles equipped with a serpentine >>> belt and an harmonic balancer, get in touch with your dealership ASAP >>> and check its status re: the "campaign". Were it to fail at-speed with >>> your wife or child (or yourself if not large and strong) driving, the >>> vehicle would be uncontrollable. Not a fun situation. This happens >>> WITHOUT WARNING. Warn friends of yours who also drive such vehicles. >>> >>> Peter Wieck >>> Wyncote, PA > > DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! > Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: > http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm > (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email > unusable) > > Thousands of vintage radio schematics available at The Schematic Bank: > http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/schematics/ > > Archive of Alt.Binaries.Pictures.Radio postings: > http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/abpr/ > > Universal Schematic Locator-finds schematics in Rider, Beitman, and Sams: > http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/USL_FILES/uslpage.htm Article: 321490 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <1124801765.125266.265710@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Knobs at Kutztown Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 06:09:37 GMT Since I won't be able to make it to Kutztown, do you by chance have knobs for German radios. Perhaps, even knobs from '70 's era Grundig radios! Omer "Mike Koste" wrote in message news:1124801765.125266.265710@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Bring your orphans for potential on-the-spot reunions. Over 10,000 > knobs available for vintage radio/tv/ham/test equipment. Friday & > Saturday, September 16th and 17th at Renninger's in Kutztown, PA. Look > for Gobs of Knobs in Booths 321, 321A. (I'm always interested in buying > your unwanted surplus too!) > > Mike Koste > Ambler, PA > Article: 321491 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Web Page update Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 01:12:30 -0600 Message-ID: Okay guys, I really am working on that web page..I swear. I got most of it done now, except that once I previewed the page I was totally unhappy with how the photo's turned out. I think tomorrow I'm going to reshoot the pics and replace them. other than that, I THINK I'm pretty well finished. Shouldn't be too long now. Ben Article: 321492 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <8MCdnX88D6DoQ1bfRVn-hA@comcast.com> <11cooflc96cdd60@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Passing on PayPal Fees? Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 06:42:42 -0400 Message-ID: <430da16a$0$3733$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> "Phil B" wrote in message news:luSdnf2zFoMQ75DeRVn-2A@comcast.com... > What the HELL gives here? Everyone is complaining about "excessive" > PayPal fees What is excessive? 3%, 2%, 1%, free? This is all ludicrous! Phil, Don't beat around the bush, how do you really feel? Just kidding, I agree that the increased sale price you are likely to get accepting Paypal is well worth a few percent. I much prefer paypal payments when I sell, quick and easy and the money is in my account in seconds. As far as getting a merchant account, I had one some years back when I owned a small business. Fees actually averaged more like 5% and getting a merchant account was not a picnic. The bank required more paper work then your average mortgage, net worth statements, tax returns, etc. Larry Fowkes Article: 321493 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <430d27e3$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> Subject: Re: Replace 30-year-old e-caps? Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 06:48:32 -0400 Message-ID: <430da2c9$0$3733$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:430d27e3$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net... > Hi all > . I haven't pulled > the caps to check for leakage. If I do that and find them acceptable, should > I replace these nearly 30-year-old caps, or should they be expected to give > years of good service yet? Any thoughts? > > Thanks much > Paul > > It seems to me that as long as the radio is on the bench and your talking a couple of bucks worth of caps it makes sense to go ahead and replace them. Then you know for sure. Just my opinion. Larry Fowkes Article: 321494 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 08:20:01 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Passing on PayPal Fees? References: <8MCdnX88D6DoQ1bfRVn-hA@comcast.com> <11cooflc96cdd60@corp.supernews.com> <9q2dnTSTtNVhMpDeRVn-1w@comcast.com> Message-ID: William Sommerwerck wrote: > Phil, many of us are not businessmen -- we're individuals, and that > nearly-3% cuts significantly into what we receive. We can't write it off as > a business expense. > > It's even worse with eBay sales, because you're also paying listing and/or > sales fees to eBay -- who owns PayPal as well. There's a very simple cure. Don't use PayPal and don't use ebay if you can't manage the fees in relation to the income. -BM Article: 321495 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: Web Page update Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:52:38 GMT What is the URL? PP "benjamaniac" wrote in message news:dejr0v$qpd$1@news3.infoave.net... > Okay guys, I really am working on that web page..I swear. I got most of > it done now, except that once I previewed the page I was totally unhappy > with how the photo's turned out. I think tomorrow I'm going to reshoot the > pics and replace them. other than that, I THINK I'm pretty well finished. > Shouldn't be too long now. > Ben > > Article: 321496 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: Bill Turner? Date: 25 Aug 2005 12:56:55 GMT Message-ID: References: <3kaPe.278281$_o.233954@attbi_s71> John Goller, k9uwa (k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF) writes: > In article , > dmign@earthlink.net says... >> >> >>Thanks to everyone for the replies about Bills' address. >>And I too would like to know how Bill is doing. Let's hear from someone who >>knows or better yet from Bill himself. >> >>DON > > > Bill is back home... expect to hear from him probably tomorrow he will > get his internet fired up .... > > John k9uwa > It's steam operated? Michael Article: 321497 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1124564035.959548.159350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6eKdnRIBNYH755DeRVn-oQ@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:09:12 -0400 "Phil B" a opiné > I always get a kick out of the replies on this subject which comes up > frequently. Everyone has a favorite method. Nobody seems of have any > quantitative evidence on how well their favorite method holds up over > time. I wish I had a dime for every time I've seen a ripped speaker > repaired with scotch tape... all yellow and pealing away. > Many old timers swear by GC Service > Cement, but has anyone looked at a GC repaired speaker after 30 or 40 > years. That is my beef. Nobody knows!! Before you get a "kick out" of some replies, maybe you should educate yourself and ask what is really GC Cement, Speaker glue have in common. I'll let you find out and post your findings. You've already made the same comment in a similar thread a year ago. Speaker glue professionals (at least the ol' guys I know) have used the same glue for over 30 years and it does hold up pretty well thank you. When was the last time you saw a 1970 speaker come apart at the glue seam ? Never did. I did see a few 1930ies and 1950ies speakers come apart at the basket and cone suround. NEVER at the voice coil. I tend to think they learn from experience like everyone else and the glue "technology" has evolver quite a bit in the past 50 years thanks to companies like 3M. Here's a suggestion, write to JBL and ask what type of glue they supply with their drop-in kits. Or even to Ted Weber (WeberVST website), he's a cool guy and an expert about speakers, he'll be happy to answer... Yeah, I do find funny the fabric glue, the duct tape, silicone caulk even the tea bag and Bounce sheets but who am I to force others to use my way or any other way ? It's their speakers. I show what I do and to them to decide what's best. Heck, even if Ted Weber would be to post here and tell the group what is acceptable and not, there would still be fabric glue and duct tape and.... being used for repairs. I see that it is more what suits you best than what's best that works in this group, mixed an ounce of ego. Lighten up, threads like this one are funny to read as they repeat themselves over and over... Are we at 50 yet ? ;o) Syl Article: 321498 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: Antique Radiophily Threatened by Trojans. Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:12:12 -0500 Message-ID: References: On Wed, 24 Aug 2005 18:55:52 -0400 "Williams" wrote: > Verily, it doth seem that the use of the home computer for accessing >info about antique radios and phonos is compromised by all the little virae, >wormazoids, pop-ups, and terrorist-hacker tom-foolery. > Ultimately, we are advised to GET A NEW COMPUTER. I strongly recommend that anyone who is connected to the internet get and install "Ad-Aware" and "Spybot, Search and Destroy." These are 2 FREE programs which will help rid your computer of that stuff that various web sites put in it. You can Google on them to find where to get them. Of course, you need some kind of anti-virus program, too. Both of these will make fresh datasets (also free) available for download on a regular basis and the programs will download them and install them for you, when you tell them to. The first time you run these you will probably be astonished at how many things they find that they want to clean out. Let them do it, and keep them up to date. In fact, writing about this has reminded me to update MY files. They're downloading at this very moment. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 321499 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Custer's Last Stand? - NOT!!! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:17:11 -0400 "Jim Bailey" a opiné > Maybe I should charge 30% the next time ;-) Maybe you should stay away from confused old codgers... Syl Article: 321500 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Registered User Subject: Re: Passing on PayPal Fees? Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:09:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <8MCdnX88D6DoQ1bfRVn-hA@comcast.com> <11cooflc96cdd60@corp.supernews.com> <9q2dnTSTtNVhMpDeRVn-1w@comcast.com> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 04:46:53 -0700, "William Sommerwerck" wrote: > >many of us are not businessmen -- we're individuals, and that >nearly-3% cuts significantly into what we receive. We can't write it off as >a business expense. > Individuals who regularly engage in business, an on-going enterprise, are businessmen whether it suits them or not. That the practice is self-considered a hobby does not keep it from being a business. Is "what we receive" a synonym for gross or net profit? >It's even worse with eBay sales, because you're also paying listing and/or >sales fees to eBay -- who owns PayPal as well. > eBay and PayPal are two different services. Because the two are owned by the same company is there some entitlement that paying for one service permits the use of the other service gratis? For all the bitching and moaning eBay and PayPal can't be too bad of a combination. In spite of the fees no one, business or individual, seems to be going broke selling their wares using those services. regards from one of the many eBay owners Fritz Article: 321501 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: mikes@cs.indiana.edu (Michael Squires) Subject: Re: WANTED: Vintage Tektronix Equipement Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:55:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1124740778.330589.99030@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <287Pe.2916$k92.2274@trndny05> In article , BFoelsch wrote: > >The last generation of Tek tube scopes, the 544, 546 and 547 had a solid >state vertical section and actually hold up pretty well, but the CRTs are 35 I have a 546 with a 1A1 plugin; bought ca 1980 surplus at Dayton, still works. Only problem is the on-off switch, which has problems with the current draw. I've just replaced it with a calibrated 465, however, so if there's someone in the Bloomington, IN area who wants a scope (with cart) get in touch. I also have an older Ballantine RMS voltmeter which is now not needed (since I now have a newer HP unit). It worked the last time I turned it on, about 15 years ago. Mike Squires -- Mike Squires (mikes at cs.indiana.edu) 317 233 9456 (w) 812 333 6564 (h) mikes at siralan.org 546 N Park Ridge Rd., Bloomington, IN 47408 Article: 321502 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Passing on PayPal Fees? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <8MCdnX88D6DoQ1bfRVn-hA@comcast.com> <11cooflc96cdd60@corp.supernews.com> <9q2dnTSTtNVhMpDeRVn-1w@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:26:35 GMT In article <9q2dnTSTtNVhMpDeRVn-1w@comcast.com>, gizzledgeezer@comcast.net says... > > >Phil, many of us are not businessmen -- we're individuals, and that >nearly-3% cuts significantly into what we receive. > >It's even worse with eBay sales, because you're also paying listing and/or >sales fees to eBay -- who owns PayPal as well. > > Yup makes perfect sense to me William... except for this part... I can remember you complaining about the High Ebay Prices?... as in same item selling on fleabay is much higher than other places you might find it... so deducting a few percent from the high fleabay price... And you are still getting more bucks for your Widget than you would if you sold it elsewhere... next as many have stated... if you take PayPal for your auction you WILL get HIGHER BID PRICES than you would if you forced the buyer to get off his butt and go get you a money order... or write out a check and get an envelope to mail you your check... and the guy really isn't paying NOW .. he is paying LATER whenever his credit card bill gets there.... so once again William... you have stepped in it! John k9uwa Article: 321503 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1124564035.959548.159350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6eKdnRIBNYH755DeRVn-oQ@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:33:53 GMT In article <6eKdnRIBNYH755DeRVn-oQ@comcast.com>, pcb999@NOSPAMcomcast.net says... > > >I wish I had a dime for every time I've seen a ripped speaker >repaired with scotch tape... all yellow and pealing away. > Same as above applies to how many of them I have opened up that had that rubber stuff that GC sold used to fix the rips... and it is also separated from the cone over time.... As for time of the repair lasting.. at this point I have 12 years on several of my Coffee Filter and 3M #77 sprayglue and they are holding up just fine... THink that the Tea Totallers here will find the same with the TeaBag application.. Fabric Glue?.. beats me.. of the guys out there using Fabic Glue.. how many years have you been using it and gone back to check that it is still holding up well?.. My guess is that it will also be Fine yet today... John k9uwa Article: 321504 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Antique Radiophily Threatened by Trojans. References: <1124982830.581238.14000@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 10:37:02 -0500 tschw10117@aol.com wrote: > Jim, my experience has been that if you run Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D is > unnecessary-- it finds and stops nothing that isn't covered by > Ad-Aware. And we found that Spybot misses some things that Ad-Aware gets... also my .02 -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321505 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <8MCdnX88D6DoQ1bfRVn-hA@comcast.com> <11cooflc96cdd60@corp.supernews.com> <9q2dnTSTtNVhMpDeRVn-1w@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Passing on PayPal Fees? Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:40:25 -0400 Message-ID: <430de733$0$3733$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:LqlPe.65260$084.20030@attbi_s22... >.. if you take PayPal for your auction you > WILL get HIGHER BID PRICES than you would if you forced the buyer > to get off his butt and go get you a money order... or write out > a check and get an envelope to mail you your check... and the guy > really isn't paying NOW .. he is paying LATER whenever his credit > card bill gets there.... > John k9uwa > > John, I have definately found it to be true that your items fetch a higher price accepting Paypal. Most people are more likely to spend $200 on their Visa card then they are in cold hard cash. I have been buying and selling on Ebay since June of 1998. I started accepting Paypal about a year and a half ago and noticed an immediate change in the number of bids and the average closing price of my auctions. It far exceeds the extra I pay for accepting credit cards via Paypal. To be honest I find that in most cases I will pass on an item if they don't take paypal unless it is something truly unusual, for the same reason. Going and getting a money order is a pain in the ass and I really don't like to send a personal check to an unknown party. The numbers at the bottom of your check are all a person needs to tap into your account these days. Larry Fowkes Article: 321506 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" References: Subject: Re: Custer's Last Stand Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:43:00 -0700 Custer goofed He left the Handie-Talkies, Sabers, and Gatling guns back at Fort Abraham Lincoln And he couldn't read smoke signals (;-) -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:j7idnTbrGb6dc5DeRVn-3g@sigecom.net... > > "Syl" wrote in message > news:VpkPe.1733$vR3.26834@wagner.videotron.net... >> "Jim Bailey" a opiné >> >>> Maybe I should charge 30% the next time ;-) >> >> Maybe you should stay away from confused old codgers... >> >> Syl > > > That would mean staying away from a lot of folks on this group, me > included. :-O) > > Bruce > Article: 321507 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Custer's Last Stand? - NOT!!! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:46:25 -0400 "Bruce Mercer" a répondu > "Syl" wrote in message > news:VpkPe.1733$vR3.26834@wagner.videotron.net... > > "Jim Bailey" a opiné > > > >> Maybe I should charge 30% the next time ;-) > > > > Maybe you should stay away from confused old codgers... > > > > Syl > > > That would mean staying away from a lot of folks on this group, me included. > :-O) T'was meant tongue-in-cheek, but it seems the ng is totally lacking humour, according to some replies I read, everything being taken to the first degree. Talk about dryness... Syl Article: 321508 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <6fcqg15fpog1iqlgi4ns06p4jnf79f0rq0@4ax.com> Subject: Re: A Few Walton questions Message-ID: <1124988900.317456c231a98ae96e2e2d316d3a8ca5@teranews> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:54:53 -0500 "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:6fcqg15fpog1iqlgi4ns06p4jnf79f0rq0@4ax.com... > Any good suggestions for some kind of material to make a new gasket > out of? The gasket under the glass, that is. RadioDaze (and probably others) sells this gasket material. Check their web site, look for "rubber extrusions" under the Components section. You could probably find something similar locally at the hardware or auto-parts store. > Anyone know where one could find a cabinet for a Walton? What are the circumstances under which you would do this? The cabinet represents the *entire* value of a 7-J-232. You fix what you have, no matter how difficult. Take it to a furniture restoration shop if necessary. I know at least one repro cabinet has been produced. Cost over $1000 IIRC. You would use this when you have the right speaker and chassis for a 9- or 12-S-232, not a 7J. Not worth it. Article: 321509 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Custer's Last Stand? - NOT!!! Message-ID: <6PmPe.10996$hL3.47486@weber.videotron.net> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 13:00:35 -0400 "Bruce Mercer" a répondu > > T'was meant tongue-in-cheek, but it seems the ng is totally lacking > > humour, > > according to some replies I read, everything being taken to the first > > degree. > > Talk about dryness... > > > > Syl > > Of course it was...I was right there with ya. > > Bruce Yeah I got that....;o) Just commenting about other replies, just sent you an email... Syl Article: 321510 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Contact Cleaner recommended by HP Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:25:43 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "William Sommerwerck" writes: [I quoted from an HP manual] >> CLEANING SOLUTION Hewlett-Packard recommends using either of two >> cleaning solutions on printed circuit (PC) board edge connectors. >> For best cleaning results, we recommend an ammonium hydroxide >> solution (NH4OH, 29.5% NH3 by weight). But, a concentrated >> solution of ammonia requires the use of gloves, eye goggles, and >> proper ventilation. The second recommendation is an 80:20 >> solution of isopropyl alcohol and water (IPA/H2O). This should >> serve as a satisfactory cleaner where one would not want to use >> ammonium hydroxide. >Satisfactory in what way? My best guess from the context is that "satisfactory" in this case means returning the edge connectors to a low-resistance condition. I suppose they may have meant satisfactory in achieving world peace, but I doubt it. >Gold is a noble metal, but gold contacts do pick >up a degree of crud. Is isopropyl alcohol going to remove it? Depends on whether the crud is soluble in alcohol. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321511 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1124932231.652640.91400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mercedes Harmonic Balancer "Campaign" OT Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:30:23 GMT I don't think I'll ever understand the deal with recalls. To some degree I think the news media has a certain infatuation with foreign cars. If Ford for instance initiates a safety recall, it's front page news. If Toyota has a similar recall you'll never know about it -- giving the impression that foreign cars never break, while Americans are so stupid that they still can't build a car after all these years. Statistically, automobiles made in the Far East (or at least designed there) have nearly twice as many recalls as American built cars. But that's also deceptive -- American makes are less likely to correct a defect via recall; and more likely to correct the problem only if a vehicle fails because of it. I had a 94 Thunderbird that blew a head gasket. My daughter was using the car -- on a Friday at about 11:30pm she called and complained, "I'm in Ybor City, and the car started blowing all this white smoke and now it won't start!" So with the help of AAA, we managed to have the car towed all the way to Sarasota Ford while I was waiting in the wee hours. Turns out the car has a known defect, and Ford will cover repair and replacement of head gasket problems up to 100,000 miles. This car had over 99,000 miles on it. Back to the news media, there are some definite exceptions to what I was saying. For example, do you remember the Audi 5000's that had an acceleration problem? That hit the news bigtime. On the other side we have, to this day, major fuss regarding Mustangs with the drop-in gas tanks. There were a handful of reports related to rupture of these tanks in very serious accidents, but compared to the millions of vehicles made this wasn't even a drop in the bucket -- more like a vapor. Ford corrected the problem with the next body change -- but to this day, consumer groups are pressuring Ford to recall every Mustang -- some 40 years later -- to totally rebuild the body so as to use a different tank. Of course we still have bad feelings about the Pinto, and the Corvair -- even though the government concluded Ralph Nader's claims were totally false. One bog one I'll never understand -- one of the biggest design debacles of all time was talked about for awhile, but never corrected; and my 64 Thunderbird will do it. I'm talking about the ol' "jump out of park into reverse" syndrome. With only a small amount of wear on the shift lever, if you should get out of the car with the engine running, just a small vibration (such as shutting the door) will cause the transmission to jump out of park into reverse, all by itself. Not only that, the parking brake will automatically release, and away she goes! The only saving grace is that T-Birds have a swing-away steering column. if you swing the wheel to the right, the car is locked in park and this will not happen. So every 61-66 T-Bird owner knows, whenever you put the car in park, swing the wheel to the right. After all these years, no recall, fix, or correction has ever been made. Go figure. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1124932231.652640.91400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Mercedes Benz has an open campaign to replace Harmonic Balancers for > certain of its vehicles, mostly those with the 3.2 liter V6. What > happens is that the balancer will fail without warning, causing the > serpentine belt to sieze and often stopping the engine altogether. This > will then cause loss of steering and braking power (at least). > Typically it happens with vehicles with more than seventy-five (75,000) > thousand miles on them, but can happen at any age or mileage to those > vehicles affected. > > Mercedes has known of this defect for a while and initiated the > campaign in April of this year. As of this date, they have not notified > any individual owners, nor do they appear to intend to do so. > > How do I know this? > > That they fail: Coming off the downstroke of the Verrazano Narrows > Bridge from Brooklyn into Staten Island. Luckily I was going less than > 30 mph (just after the tolls) and was more-or-less accidentally pointed > towards a shoulder. I used a sloped embankment to help me stop the > vehicle, my 230 lbs on the pedal was not quite enough. That all the > other drivers of a Tuesday afternoon missed me illustrates the concept > of a guardian angel. That it did not happen some 40 minutes earlier > when I was on the Long Island Expressway, or 10 minutes later when I > would have been on the Goethals Bridge suggest that this same Angel was > a true professional. The belt siezed when the balancer broke loose, > stopping the engine cold. > > That there is a recall: When I arrived at the dealer in Edison, NJ, > their service advisor stated that the damage would be repaired at no > cost (it also took out the upper oil pan, damaged the fan and minor > other stuff). > > That this is not a "recent" issue: When I spoke to the Mercedes > Customer Service group. They also stated that they had no intention of > making the recall official "at this time". > > So, those of you who drive Mercedes vehicles equipped with a serpentine > belt and an harmonic balancer, get in touch with your dealership ASAP > and check its status re: the "campaign". Were it to fail at-speed with > your wife or child (or yourself if not large and strong) driving, the > vehicle would be uncontrollable. Not a fun situation. This happens > WITHOUT WARNING. Warn friends of yours who also drive such vehicles. > > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 321512 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Contact Cleaner recommended by HP Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:52:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1124929119.200257.311480@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1124929119.200257.311480@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" writes: >Note also: that I have used glacial ammonia (AKA Diazo developer) to >remove paint. It is strong stuff, no fun and not recommended around >electronic gear. That is 29.5%, by the way. Interesting! That must be where the formulation came from. >If HP was suggesting these two materials for cleaning 11 years ago, I >have to wonder at their reasoning as to use these particular materials >on that particular item. Must be something peculiar to the item and not >a general recommendation. No, not at all. In fact, they're not even relevant to this particular product -- it's a 1RU box with two circuit boards interconnected with ribbons and no edge connectors. The section of the manual I quoted looked like the good old boilerplate that companies like Tek & HP used to include in their service manuals. You know, stuff like what wattage soldering iron to use around semiconductors, how to avoid ESD damage, don't stick your fingers in the light socket; stuff like that. Having trusted the HP of yore as being one of those companies that usually had good reason for what they said and did, I figured somebody had actually tested these methodologies. Not necessarily, though. Nobody's infallible, and maybe this really ain't the best way to clean contacts. Figured I'd throw it into the fray anyway. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321513 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: A Few Walton questions From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <6fcqg15fpog1iqlgi4ns06p4jnf79f0rq0@4ax.com> <1124988900.317456c231a98ae96e2e2d316d3a8ca5@teranews> <4h0sg1hr73pibtuoi704qmisbhbql6fg0l@4ax.com> Message-ID: <5RnPe.280977$_o.128083@attbi_s71> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:11:13 GMT In article <4h0sg1hr73pibtuoi704qmisbhbql6fg0l@4ax.com>, blacksmith1@wowway.com says... > > >The person who owns the Walton I'm working on right now bought a good >chassis in order to get some parts for his. Turns out he didn't need >parts. Now he has a complete Walton and a good chassis that need a >cabinet. >.... >Blacksmith Paul is right.... your going to spend $1150 or so for a cabinet... and it will come with a chassis in it... so unless you think you can sell the restored chassis.... it isn't worth bothering to do restoration on it... John k9uwa Article: 321514 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1124564035.959548.159350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6eKdnRIBNYH755DeRVn-oQ@comcast.com> <7qadnUvFNLE4bZDeRVn-og@sigecom.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:14:55 GMT In article <7qadnUvFNLE4bZDeRVn-og@sigecom.net>, maxbud12@XXXsigecom.net says... > > > >to .06 by now. Have we reached 50 yet? > >Bruce > > nope... need a few more posts yet!... so that looks like the fabric glue and the 3M + coffee filter methods are good for long term repairs on speakers... John k9uwa Article: 321515 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: OT Really !!!!!!! Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:40:58 -0600 Message-ID: I've got a '50's vintage Stoner candy vending machine in my shop taking up space. If anyone is interested, best offer...come and get it. I need the space for more radios !!!!!!! ( I mentioned that I need the space for radios because I really do and that keeps the posting within the limits for posting on the group...I think ) Ben Article: 321516 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Registered User Subject: Re: Mercedes Harmonic Balancer "Campaign" OT Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 14:37:11 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1124932231.652640.91400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 12:27:45 -0500, Dave Garrett wrote: > >Older cars were also manufactured to much looser tolerances than modern >cars are, and it was rare for an older car to hit 100,000 miles without >requiring an engine rebuild. Nowadays, 100,000 miles is nothing for a >well-engineered and well-maintained car. Timing chains will stretch over >time and can require adjustment or replacement before a belt wears out. >Gears last longer, but they're much more expensive to manufacture, they >add complexity to an engine where a belt would be a simpler solution, >and many people find the noise they generate to be objectionable. > I am uncertain what period and earlier defines "older cars" but the first sentence appears to be well off the mark. It is exceedingly rare for a well-maintained passenger vehicle engine to require a rebuild at 100k. The flat-head V-8 had no history of reliability problems in several decades of production. The same can be said for all the variants of the small-block V-8, the L6s, the slant-sixes, the pancake-sixes and even the iron duke fours. There are instances like the aluminum-block Vegas and the 80's Caddy 4-6-8 but those are much more the exception than the rule. back to lurking Fritz Article: 321517 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 13:06:52 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1124564035.959548.159350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6eKdnRIBNYH755DeRVn-oQ@comcast.com> "Phil B" wrote in message news:6eKdnRIBNYH755DeRVn-oQ@comcast.com... >I always get a kick out of the replies on this subject which comes up > frequently. Everyone has a favorite method. Nobody seems of have any > quantitative evidence on how well their favorite method holds up over > time. I wish I had a dime for every time I've seen a ripped speaker > repaired with scotch tape... all yellow and pealing away. > > Basically, you need some sort of glue and some material to bridge the > gap across a tear. This concept seems simple, but what is the best glue > and gap-bridging material? That's where the problem comes in. What is > best for strength, flexibility, endurance? All the suggestions I have > ever seen are pure folklore. Some that I have rejected are scotch tape, > duct tape, and silicon caulk. i have seen duct tape on small rips on PA gear, that is still functioning just fine after 10 years. which isnt to say it will always work, but it can work. its not folklore. all duct tapes are not equal either. some stick better. ive personally found ace brand to be very good duct tape. randy Article: 321518 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: How to Use an Ammmeter [Ampmeter?] Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 19:12:05 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In Gordon Richmond writes: >Aha! Another user of the dread "Death Cord" :>) >Useful thing to have around. And its name is not entirely undeserved. >One does have to be careful. Really, really careful. Fluke used to make one of the handiest test leads around. It was a molded plug with a socket on the back. You'd plug it into the wall and plug the equipment into it. A long pair of leads went to your meter's current measuring jacks. I believe it was discontinued, as often seems to happen with truly useful products. It's a good thing to keep an eye out for used. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321519 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 19:20:54 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1cc8b$43092a9a$4232bd3d$10116@COQUI.NET> <2497-430D0D98-128@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> In <2497-430D0D98-128@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) writes: >What happens when you run out of solder or lacquer ? or whiskey :-) Whiskey substitutes quite well for solder and lacquer. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321520 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave Burson" Subject: Radio and TV art Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 19:41:41 GMT I've just been browsing Ad*Access.com which has several thousand scanned images of magazine and poster art from the first half of the 20th century. Of the 5 or 6 general categories, 3 of them are Radio, Television and WWII. Best of all the quality is superb...large, 150 dpi images (many in color) intended to be downloaded. You might be able to make a re-creation of an ad for one of your favorite radios! Dave Burson Article: 321521 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <430d27e3$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> Subject: Re: Replace 30-year-old e-caps? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:51:15 -0400 "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:430d27e3$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net... > Hi all > > Keep in mind this isn't my radio; it's a paid repair job. I haven't pulled > the caps to check for leakage. If I do that and find them acceptable, should > I replace these nearly 30-year-old caps, or should they be expected to give > years of good service yet? Any thoughts? > > Thanks much > Paul > > Your radio, probably okay to let them slide. Paying Customer? I'd spend the three bucks and put new caps under the chassis for the peace of mind. Personally, I think most of the can caps made after the 1960s are pretty decent, but a car radio is subjected to some pretty brutal temp. extremes. I'd worry about the seal life for one thing. Pete Article: 321522 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: How to Use an Ammmeter [Ampmeter?] References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:24:30 -0500 Tim Mullen wrote: > Fluke used to make one of the handiest test leads around. It was > a molded plug with a socket on the back. You'd plug it into the wall > and plug the equipment into it. A long pair of leads went to your > meter's current measuring jacks. I believe it was discontinued, as > often seems to happen with truly useful products. It's a good thing > to keep an eye out for used. Wal-Mart has them (sort of). Look for an appliance "remote switch cord". It has the plug/socket as you describe... the cord with switch is in series with one of the "blades"... replace the switch at the end of the cord with appropriate plugs... (safety banana plugs are best here - and they're only $5 - $6 a pair). best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321523 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Radio and TV art References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:29:47 -0400 Got a working url for this site? Ken Dave Burson wrote: > I've just been browsing Ad*Access.com which has several thousand scanned > images of magazine and poster art from the first half of the 20th century. > Of the 5 or 6 general categories, 3 of them are Radio, Television and WWII. > Best of all the quality is superb...large, 150 dpi images (many in color) > intended to be downloaded. You might be able to make a re-creation of an ad > for one of your favorite radios! > Dave Burson > > Article: 321524 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" References: Subject: Re: Radio and TV art Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:44:53 GMT Here is the link. http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/adaccess/index.html "Dave Burson" wrote in message news:V9pPe.943$dw4.278@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > I've just been browsing Ad*Access.com which has several thousand scanned > images of magazine and poster art from the first half of the 20th century. > Of the 5 or 6 general categories, 3 of them are Radio, Television and > WWII. Best of all the quality is superb...large, 150 dpi images (many in > color) intended to be downloaded. You might be able to make a re-creation > of an ad for one of your favorite radios! > Dave Burson > Article: 321525 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave Burson" References: <1125001264.490920.194890@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Radio and TV art Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:22:37 GMT Sorry, that was how I had it bookmarked. Try http://scriptorium.lib.duke.edu/adaccess/ Dave wrote in message news:1125001264.490920.194890@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > What's the correct URL? > > Terry. > Article: 321526 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <6fcqg15fpog1iqlgi4ns06p4jnf79f0rq0@4ax.com> <1124988900.317456c231a98ae96e2e2d316d3a8ca5@teranews> <4h0sg1hr73pibtuoi704qmisbhbql6fg0l@4ax.com> <5RnPe.280977$_o.128083@attbi_s71> <63esg113sn49ln5kpdmpcmc46lm676d5ip@4ax.com> Subject: Re: A Few Walton questions Message-ID: <1125009117.df054d40812e6144f1a3deac7a7626c7@teranews> Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:31:49 -0500 "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:63esg113sn49ln5kpdmpcmc46lm676d5ip@4ax.com... >He can't just let the extra > chassis sit in a closet, so he's looking for a cabinet. If he finds it > he'll have 2 complete Waltons. > Maybe someone has a Walton with a rusted hulk of a chassis sitting in > it. The point John was trying to make is that what you are proposing to do does not make financial sense for anybody. The vibrator chassis is effectively worthless in the tombstone cabinet because it is so much less desirable than the three AC chassis. To acquire an empty 7J232 cabinet or one with a rusty chassis will cost as much as a 7J232 cabinet with a nice chassis in it, because all the value of the radio is in the cabinet. If the cabinet has an AC chassis in it, the chassis is worth restoring no matter how bad it is because only the AC chassis add value to the set. Regards, Paul Article: 321527 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: why_not@spam_sucks.org Subject: CX-210 Tube - Manufacturer? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:25:13 -0700 Who manufactured the CX-210 tube? The tube is amrked CX-210 but no trace of the manufacturer. Thanks, Dave Article: 321528 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: How to Use an Ammmeter [Ampmeter?] Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 23:45:38 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In Randy or Sherry Guttery writes: >Tim Mullen wrote: >> Fluke used to make one of the handiest test leads around. It was >> a molded plug with a socket on the back. You'd plug it into the wall >> and plug the equipment into it. A long pair of leads went to your >> meter's current measuring jacks. I believe it was discontinued, as >> often seems to happen with truly useful products. It's a good thing >> to keep an eye out for used. >Wal-Mart has them (sort of). Look for an appliance "remote switch cord". > It has the plug/socket as you describe... the cord with switch is in >series with one of the "blades"... replace the switch at the end of the >cord with appropriate plugs... (safety banana plugs are best here - and >they're only $5 - $6 a pair). Good idea. I know what you're talking about -- got one laying around somewheres. Zipcord with a thumbwheel line switch. Fortunately I've kept a tight grip on my bright-yellow Fluke cable, but if I ever lose it that'd be a good way to go. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321529 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Sound and almost a picture.... Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 08:47:33 +0900 Message-ID: References: <12354-430D5058-15@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> <1124988266.403304.245000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1125012165.517603.196660@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote in message news:1125012165.517603.196660@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I replaced the last of the paper capacitors and the .0068 I subsituted > for a .001 across the horizontal output transformer. That didn't make > any difference, but I noticed something else. The chassis isn't bolted > into the cabinet and in the course of making adjustments I moved the > chassis slightly and there was an effect on the picture. By repeating > this I was able to make the picture jump around a bit, make it a bit > brighter, fill the screen a bit more, and also lose sound, only to > regain it shortly. > > Thinking about what Bill said regarding grounding the Aquadag I bolted > the chassis back to the metal cabinet with its lone mounting bolt > (there are supposed to be 3 but only one came with the set). After > doing that the picture went back to what it was before - dim, only part > of the screen and wiggling the chassis didn't have any effect. Is there a largish capacitor in the HV cage, shaped like a cylinder with serrations on the top, and mounted with lugs? Some of those old sets had a filter cap on the ouput of the HV rectifier (doorknob caps).. I had completely forgotten about those.. and if that cap were open, it could well cause your problem. Article: 321530 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Philco 96 data Needed Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:01:15 -0400 Does anyone have a list of the component values for this set? N Air has the diag but no list, Bietman has a list but it's part numbers only. Ken Article: 321531 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: A Few Walton questions From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <6fcqg15fpog1iqlgi4ns06p4jnf79f0rq0@4ax.com> <1124988900.317456c231a98ae96e2e2d316d3a8ca5@teranews> <4h0sg1hr73pibtuoi704qmisbhbql6fg0l@4ax.com> <5RnPe.280977$_o.128083@attbi_s71> <63esg113sn49ln5kpdmpcmc46lm676d5ip@4ax.com> <1125009117.df054d40812e6144f1a3deac7a7626c7@teranews> <3rlsg1telglplfh9uoe8137b0brqsom9hf@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:18:27 GMT In article <3rlsg1telglplfh9uoe8137b0brqsom9hf@4ax.com>, blacksmith1@wowway.com says... > > asked me to see if I could find a cabinet for the extra chassis. > >I'll relay the information to him. >.... >Blacksmith best to just resell the leftover chassis for parts unit... the shutter leaves are the same as the other versions .. and many of the other parts on the chassis... as for the finding of another cabinet... that was the exact price that I paid for the last one I purchased... $1150 ... and the chassis that was in the cabinet is a Really Really Really .... Rusty ... 7J232... and the cabinet had 4 holes drilled in one side of it... John k9uwa Article: 321532 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Passing on PayPal Fees? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <8MCdnX88D6DoQ1bfRVn-hA@comcast.com> <11cooflc96cdd60@corp.supernews.com> <9q2dnTSTtNVhMpDeRVn-1w@comcast.com> Message-ID: <1ktPe.306962$xm3.227734@attbi_s21> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:25:33 GMT In article , gizzledgeezer@comcast.net says... > > >Highly plausible... But prove it. > > Well William ... all of us that sell on ebay know it happens... your right I guess.... all of us that sell there.. and say that we get higher bids for our items have no way to prove it to your satisfaction... therefore it must not be true..... John k9uwa Article: 321533 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: CX-210 Tube - Manufacturer? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:58:58 GMT It was probably made by one of the many small independent tube manufacturers that flourished briefly during the 20's, and may well be a bootleg (produced without paying patent royalties to RCA). Some of these tubes were never marked with a manufacturer's name, or had a sticker glued to the bulb, which is often missing after 75-80 years. Such tubes were generally cheaper than the name brands, and of lower quality. -- Mike Schultz wrote in message news:trsPe.2232$UI.2026@okepread05... > Who manufactured the CX-210 tube? The tube is amrked CX-210 but no trace > of the manufacturer. > > Thanks, > > Dave Article: 321534 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: CX-210 Tube - Manufacturer? References: Message-ID: <6VtPe.49175$1J2.552750@twister.southeast.rr.com> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 01:05:06 GMT CX tubes were made by Cunningham. Ron why_not@spam_sucks.org wrote: > Who manufactured the CX-210 tube? The tube is amrked CX-210 but no trace > of the manufacturer. > > Thanks, > > Dave Article: 321535 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Sound and almost a picture.... Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:08:07 +0900 Message-ID: References: <12354-430D5058-15@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> <1124988266.403304.245000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1125012165.517603.196660@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125015184.380075.324790@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote in message news:1125015184.380075.324790@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > You may be on to something there. I remember seeing a cap rated at 56 > mmf 6 kV on the Photofact but never came across it while recapping the > set, probably due to it being hidden in the HV cage. > > I took a look in there and I found the capacitor, but it's not an > electrolytic. It looks like dogbone resistor, and although not directly > connected to the output of the 1B3, it is connected across the flyback. > One end of it shares a common connection with the width control and the > other goes to the yoke. > > I believe this might be my problem. Only snag is that I don't have any > capacitors rated that high, and have nowhere to get any aside from > buying in bulk. (CFD) 000050R0AASA 50pF 6kv 10% Ceramic Disc A 1.50 http://www.surplussales.com/Capacitors/CeramicCaps/CC12-100.html That one could be your problem, but the one I'm thinking about would be much larger, and would come off the base of the 1B3, and the other end mounted on the HV cage (ground). These are REALLY difficult to find (sans removing them from old chassis) and very expensive when you can find them. The good news is, the values are not super critical.. for instance, if you have a 500pf/16KV doorknob, a 680 or even a 330pf at anything above 16KV will work fine. Article: 321536 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <6fcqg15fpog1iqlgi4ns06p4jnf79f0rq0@4ax.com> <1124988900.317456c231a98ae96e2e2d316d3a8ca5@teranews> <4h0sg1hr73pibtuoi704qmisbhbql6fg0l@4ax.com> <5RnPe.280977$_o.128083@attbi_s71> <63esg113sn49ln5kpdmpcmc46lm676d5ip@4ax.com> <1125009117.df054d40812e6144f1a3deac7a7626c7@teranews> Subject: Re: A Few Walton questions Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:58:54 -0400 You'd think the enterprising woodworkers among us would have made a few cabinets for all those extras chassis out there! Frank Article: 321537 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <6fcqg15fpog1iqlgi4ns06p4jnf79f0rq0@4ax.com> <1124988900.317456c231a98ae96e2e2d316d3a8ca5@teranews> <4h0sg1hr73pibtuoi704qmisbhbql6fg0l@4ax.com> <5RnPe.280977$_o.128083@attbi_s71> <63esg113sn49ln5kpdmpcmc46lm676d5ip@4ax.com> <1125009117.df054d40812e6144f1a3deac7a7626c7@teranews> Subject: Re: A Few Walton questions Message-ID: Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:19:48 -0400 "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message news:lPtPe.1425$Rc.430964@news20.bellglobal.com... > You'd think the enterprising woodworkers among us would have made a few > cabinets for all those extras chassis out there! > > Frank > > Problem is a lot of very nice consoles would get sacrificed to fill them. On the other hand, it would be nice to see the orphaned 7J232 chassis's find a new turtle shell to live in. Pete Article: 321538 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "DumpsterDiver" References: Subject: Re: CX-210 Tube - Manufacturer? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 01:20:25 GMT CX- usually designates Cunningham, but most early Cunningham tubes start with 3, not 2. Sounds like it's a #10 in any case. Probably made by GE, who made Cunningham CX-310, Radiotron (RCA) UV-210, UX-210. DD wrote in message news:trsPe.2232$UI.2026@okepread05... > Who manufactured the CX-210 tube? The tube is amrked CX-210 but no trace > of the manufacturer. > > Thanks, > > Dave Article: 321539 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "DumpsterDiver" References: <1124766349.900785.144210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: found in ma's basement Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 01:20:26 GMT DON'T PUSH YOUR LUCK! Put fuses in it QUICK! Early AC sets like that are notorious for filter capacitor thermal runaway resulting in power transformer failure. This subject has been flogged a lot on this NG, so I won't go into details, but you REALLY don't want to have to replace a fried power transformer or filter choke (tar-potted). If I recall correctly, a 125 mA B+ fuse should be right for this model. Even with a fuse, keep an eye on the transformer can surface temperature; if you can't leave your hand on it, it's too hot and will likely fail sooner or later if you don't do something to lighten the load (typically remove the old capacitors from the B+ filter network). DD wrote in message news:1124766349.900785.144210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Found (under a pile of junk) a long forgotten about Atwater Kent Model > 60 radio (six legged model) that my ma's parents bought. Plugged it > in and it still works. Unlike the Twilight Zone episode (Static) I > didn't hear old time radio programs :0) > Article: 321540 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: ISO Schematic for Philips 343A Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 01:23:41 GMT I am in search of a schematic and alignment info for a Philips 343A Table Top radio. It runs on 200 -240 vac at 50 hz. My hope is to restore this radio and get it to run on American power. Thanks in advance, Paul P. paul at (remove) ppinyot dot com Article: 321541 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: CX-210 Tube - Manufacturer? References: Message-ID: <2avPe.50764$1J2.563114@twister.southeast.rr.com> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 02:31:26 GMT DumpsterDiver wrote: > CX- usually designates Cunningham, but most early Cunningham tubes start > with 3, not 2. Sounds like it's a #10 in any case. > To quote Gerald Tyne’s “Sage of the vacuum tube”. From the second paragraph on page 310. “One exception to this system was the marking of tubes for Cunningham, who became a distributor of RCA tubes. According to the agreement with RCA, the tubes he sold were to be marked as he directed and were to bear no RCA identification. Cunningham used C numbers instead of UV, and CX instead of UX.” Know what you’re talking about before you contradict someone that does know… Ron Article: 321542 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <1124628866.827849.309500@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Philco 46-1201 Code 127? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 02:33:08 GMT "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:sK1Oe.5046$UE2.2491@tornado.socal.rr.com... > radiohere wrote: >> I have this old radio/phono combo. I need a schematic for it. All >> I've been able to locate is the schematic for the code 122 chassis. >> I've searched the internet. I was asked by a fellow coworker to repair >> the radio. On the radio, there is a coil, a transformer, (T1), that has >> a wire coming from it. It is a thin wire. Can anyone tell me where it's >> supposed to be attached? There is a blue wire and white wire that are >> still attached, and a capacitor that is attached to the tuning >> capacitor from the transformer. The thin wire attaches to the bottom >> connector of the transformer. Does it attach to the coil antenna? The >> radio doesn't have the antenna, so that could be a problem. I've fixed >> some of my own old radios, but this is the first one that someone else >> has asked me to fix. I'm new to electronics, and have no formal >> training. Everything I know is what I've learned on my own. Hopefully, >> someone out there can help me. > > The last one of these Philco AM/Phono radios I worked on had > an antenna coil made of a wood and fiberboard frame about 4" > by 10" around, and 1" thick. Roughly, from memory. There were > several turns around the frame. That would be the coil marked > "Loop" on the schematic. Black or dark purple enameled wire > about 22 or 24 guage wound around the frame mentioned above. > > As others have mentioned, this is what is tuned by the larger > of the dual section variable capacitor at the broadcast > frequency desired. > > One end should connect to the tuning capacitor, the other end > should connect to the TI antenna transformer. Probably that > white wire. The blue wire normally is just connected back to > ground, although, disconnected it serves as the input for an > external antenna. > > Jeff > > Would it be this one: http://www.ppinyot.com/Philco40150/antenna.htm or http://www.ppinyot.com/rotating_antenna.htm I built the first one for bench testing and it worked on all philcos that I have restored (so far). I then tweak the antenna coils to the actual antenna in the unit once the chassis is ready for the cabinet. Paul P. Article: 321543 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 22:44:45 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Passing on PayPal Fees? References: <8MCdnX88D6DoQ1bfRVn-hA@comcast.com> <11cooflc96cdd60@corp.supernews.com> <9q2dnTSTtNVhMpDeRVn-1w@comcast.com> Message-ID: William Sommerwerck wrote: > > >>as in same item selling on fleabay is much higher than other places >>you might find it... > > > Nope. Never have. > > > >>next as many have stated... if you take PayPal for your auction you >>WILL get HIGHER BID PRICES than you would if you forced the buyer >>to get off his butt and go get you a money order... > > > Highly plausible... But prove it. > \ Can't prove it...but just casual browsing thru categories makes me click on to items that appear to be going cheap. And there it is in BIG CAPS. I DON'T TAKE PAYPAL. I'm not terribly opposed to writing a check or standing in line for a Money Order but the "I DON'T TAKE PAYPAL" is also usually laced with other rant innuendo that imply that the seller may be difficult to deal with should a problem arise. With so many options on ebay its easy to skip over these people wearing large chips on their shoulder. -Bill Article: 321544 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Replace 30-year-old e-caps? Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:30:42 -0600 Message-ID: References: <430d27e3$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:bgaPe.1912$5B4.1810@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > It's your call. > > "Modern" electrolytics seem to be a lot less likely to fail -- I don't > know whether this is because of better materials of if they're simply not > as old. On the other hand, if you can pull out the can and access them > easily, there's no reason not to, as they're certainly cheap enough. > > The dilemma I'm facing is whether to replace an original electrolytic on a > 1940's car radio even though it appears to be okay. I can (a) take my > chances, (b) buy a new FP type from AES for $30, (c) rewire the chassis in > such a way as to fit new caps under the chassis, for $75 worth of labor, > or (d) carefully remove the can, restuff it with modern caps, and > reinstall, for an unknown amount of labor. I'm leaning toward new FP's. imho, it seems silly to put a 30$ cap in a car radio where nobody will ever know the wiser... i mean you may be inclined to open a unit in your house and show it off, but pull a car radio out of a dashboard just to show off some 30$ cap? i just dont see it... i'd take the cheapest easiest route that could later be easily and cheaply replaced with the 30$ cap should some purist offer you an insane amount of money for it based on that cap needing to be 'original'. randy Article: 321545 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:13:08 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker References: <1124564035.959548.159350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6eKdnRIBNYH755DeRVn-oQ@comcast.com> <7qadnUvFNLE4bZDeRVn-og@sigecom.net> <9pCdnVR7PsV8CJPeRVn-sQ@comcast.com> Message-ID: <8a666$430e96d5$4232bde3$17901@COQUI.NET> Phil B wrote: > Thanks John and Bruce. You've provided some valuable info. There is a > huge difference between someone saying something like "I've been using > chewing gum for 40 years" and someone actually observing that their > repair has held up over a measured period of time. > > Phil B I've left simple tears alone for fifty-seven years and none of my customers have complained. -BM Article: 321546 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <6fcqg15fpog1iqlgi4ns06p4jnf79f0rq0@4ax.com> <1124988900.317456c231a98ae96e2e2d316d3a8ca5@teranews> Subject: Re: A Few Walton questions Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:41:45 -0400 "jim menning" wrote in message news:YMwPe.16215$mb4.11582@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message > news:1124988900.317456c231a98ae96e2e2d316d3a8ca5@teranews... >> >> I know at least one repro cabinet has been produced. Cost over $1000 >> IIRC. >> >> > > Pictures now posted at alt.binaries.pictures.radio > > I think Jim Chorozny said it cost him over $1300 to have it made. > > jim menning Jim, do I understand you to mean that the image in the binaries is the US$1300 repro? While IMHO it is good "workman" grade cabinetry, from what I can see of it it's not what I would call "fine" cabinetry. The finish looks well done, but is that how light the original ones were? I would have thought they would shoot some toner on it. Sorry to seem like I'm complaining, I can see that someone spent a fair bit of time with a router, just having a problem equating that to 1,300 bucks worth. -- "It's not rocket surgery."-expert explaining how easy on-the-job safety can be. regards, Frank Johansen Aurora, Ontario Article: 321547 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <8MCdnX88D6DoQ1bfRVn-hA@comcast.com> <11cooflc96cdd60@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Passing on PayPal Fees? Message-ID: <1125040733.23efc499d73bab4c6db064d1dbad7f2b@teranews> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 00:18:47 -0700 the fee is a hcek of a lot more than 3% - if I sell an item for $10 or $15, paypal charges me closer to a dollar for example, here is the most recent payment I've accepted: Aug. 15, 2005 Payment From xxxxxxx Completed $9.24 USD -$0.66 USD $8.58 USD you will notice that they charged me 66 cents on $9.24 - that's a lot more than 3%, unless you do your math really differently than I do. given that the item itself sold for 99 cents and the rest is postage, that amounts to a 66% fee. so, no, I can't just eat that, sorry. I think in this case you are just plain wrong "Phil B" wrote in message news:luSdnf2zFoMQ75DeRVn-2A@comcast.com... > What the HELL gives here? Everyone is complaining about "excessive" > PayPal fees What is excessive? 3%, 2%, 1%, free? This is all ludicrous! Article: 321548 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <430d27e3$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> Subject: Re: Replace 30-year-old e-caps? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 09:30:29 GMT I'm not so much into the "pure" aspect as much as the "easier." A typical car radio has a three -or four-ganged FP capacitor. If I remove it, it pretty much gets destroyed in the process. Sure, you don't want it anyway, but forget trying to stuff it and put it back. If I use four new axials underneath, the caps are typically $3-4 each for the 450v types, and 79 cents for the 25 volt, so I've spent around $12-15. So I've saved a little money, but spend an hour or more trying to rewire the entire power supply chain to accommodate the new caps, with power resistors and 3-4 wires to each post. In certain cases I've been able to use radials in place of the original FP, arranged in a triangle or square, with the minus leads soldered to each of the original tab slots, and the positive leads sticking down. Again, this will fit in some radios but not others. The worst part of using new FP's is the fact that I have to order them and wait a week, or else try to keep some on hand -- at $30 apiece it's an investment, but then again I've got some $5,000 worth of stereo PCB's in the cabinet. Something else I'll bring up, that might upset the "replace 'em all, no matter what" crowd: I've noticed the failure rate of caps seems directly related to the working voltage. Typically if I test the paper caps from a radio after removal, I find that on average, 80% of them are bad or at least starting to leak, which is reason enough to replace them all without asking. For those 1600v buffers it's a sure thing, but those 50v 0.5's by the on-off switch are generally fine. Hybrid radios, without vibrators and thus with only 12 volts B+, usually use ceramic or mica types which are far more reliable anyway, but you'll find a few paper ones -- and they don't go bad all that often. The FP's in these sets typically don't get replaced, simply because they don't go bad -- at least not on the same scale as their higher voltage counterparts. Seems I've replaced only a handful of these during the past 8 years, and have never had one come back for a filter cap failure. It's still wise to replace the paper ones, simply because a paper cap is a paper cap, but I don't consider this nearly as important as the older high-voltage types. I'm sure this will answer some of those who wonder -- for many years it's been a habit to replace all those paper caps and filters in the 1930's and 40's sets, but what about a Sansui receiver from the 70's? After all, it's 30 years old now. Uh, yes I've seen failures, but for the most part they're not a problem. If it sat out in the barn for 25 years it may be a different matter, but for the most part I wouldn't be paranoid about a total recap and then scrambling to get the variac out. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "xrongor" wrote in message news:dem28b$23s4$1@news3.infoave.net... > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:bgaPe.1912$5B4.1810@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> It's your call. >> >> "Modern" electrolytics seem to be a lot less likely to fail -- I don't >> know whether this is because of better materials of if they're simply not >> as old. On the other hand, if you can pull out the can and access them >> easily, there's no reason not to, as they're certainly cheap enough. >> >> The dilemma I'm facing is whether to replace an original electrolytic on >> a 1940's car radio even though it appears to be okay. I can (a) take my >> chances, (b) buy a new FP type from AES for $30, (c) rewire the chassis >> in such a way as to fit new caps under the chassis, for $75 worth of >> labor, or (d) carefully remove the can, restuff it with modern caps, and >> reinstall, for an unknown amount of labor. I'm leaning toward new FP's. > > imho, it seems silly to put a 30$ cap in a car radio where nobody will > ever know the wiser... i mean you may be inclined to open a unit in your > house and show it off, but pull a car radio out of a dashboard just to > show off some 30$ cap? i just dont see it... > > i'd take the cheapest easiest route that could later be easily and cheaply > replaced with the 30$ cap should some purist offer you an insane amount of > money for it based on that cap needing to be 'original'. > > randy > Article: 321549 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <2avPe.50764$1J2.563114@twister.southeast.rr.com> Subject: Re: CX-210 Tube - Manufacturer? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:07:03 GMT If it were a Cunningham, the word Cunningham would have been etched on the base, and it would have been marked CX-310. Cunningham never sold a "CX-210". As I said before, it is a "brand-X" tube, and probably a bootleg. -- Mike Schultz "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:2avPe.50764$1J2.563114@twister.southeast.rr.com... > DumpsterDiver wrote: >> CX- usually designates Cunningham, but most early Cunningham tubes start >> with 3, not 2. Sounds like it's a #10 in any case. >> > > To quote Gerald Tyne’s “Sage of the vacuum tube”. > From the second paragraph on page 310. > > “One exception to this system was the marking of tubes for Cunningham, > who became a distributor of RCA tubes. According to the agreement with > RCA, > the tubes he sold were to be marked as he directed and were to bear no RCA > identification. > Cunningham used C numbers instead of UV, and CX instead of UX.” > > Know what you’re talking about before you contradict someone that does > know… > > Ron Article: 321550 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <2avPe.50764$1J2.563114@twister.southeast.rr.com> Subject: Re: CX-210 Tube - Manufacturer? Message-ID: <3gDPe.4841$k92.1210@trndny05> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 11:43:59 GMT Picture on binaries. -- Mike Schultz "Mike Schultz" wrote in message news:bRBPe.1708$rA2.685@trndny02... > If it were a Cunningham, the word Cunningham would have been etched on the > base, and it would have been marked CX-310. Cunningham never sold a > "CX-210". > > As I said before, it is a "brand-X" tube, and probably a bootleg. > > -- > Mike Schultz > > > "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message > news:2avPe.50764$1J2.563114@twister.southeast.rr.com... >> DumpsterDiver wrote: >>> CX- usually designates Cunningham, but most early Cunningham tubes start >>> with 3, not 2. Sounds like it's a #10 in any case. >>> >> >> To quote Gerald Tyne's "Sage of the vacuum tube". >> From the second paragraph on page 310. >> >> "One exception to this system was the marking of tubes for Cunningham, >> who became a distributor of RCA tubes. According to the agreement with >> RCA, >> the tubes he sold were to be marked as he directed and were to bear no >> RCA identification. >> Cunningham used C numbers instead of UV, and CX instead of UX." >> >> Know what you're talking about before you contradict someone that does >> know. >> >> Ron > > Article: 321551 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Philco 96 data Needed References: Message-ID: <7UDPe.785$nq.319@lakeread05> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 08:26:41 -0400 Thanks a meg, Terry. Where did you get this version? Ken Ken wrote: > Does anyone have a list of the component values for this set? N Air has > the diag but no list, Bietman has a list but it's part numbers only. Ken > Article: 321552 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: craigm Subject: Re: Passing on PayPal Fees? References: <8MCdnX88D6DoQ1bfRVn-hA@comcast.com> <11cooflc96cdd60@corp.supernews.com> <1125040733.23efc499d73bab4c6db064d1dbad7f2b@teranews> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 07:33:44 -0500 william_b_noble wrote: > the fee is a hcek of a lot more than 3% - if I sell an item for $10 or $15, > paypal charges me closer to a dollar for example, here is the most recent > payment I've accepted: > Aug. 15, 2005 Payment From xxxxxxx Completed $9.24 USD -$0.66 USD $8.58 USD > > you will notice that they charged me 66 cents on $9.24 - that's a lot more > than 3%, unless you do your math really differently than I do. given that > the item itself sold for 99 cents and the rest is postage, that amounts to a > 66% fee. so, no, I can't just eat that, sorry. > > I think in this case you are just plain wrong > > > > "Phil B" wrote in message > news:luSdnf2zFoMQ75DeRVn-2A@comcast.com... > >>What the HELL gives here? Everyone is complaining about "excessive" >>PayPal fees What is excessive? 3%, 2%, 1%, free? This is all ludicrous! > > > I think your math is just plain wrong. Paypal fees should be compared to the total transaction, not just the selling price. You could have said your cost of the item was $0.33 and then the paypal fees would have been 100% of your profit. A single transaction as a example does not reflect the costs to a typical seller. If you sold the item for $99.00 I doubt the PayPal fee would have been $66.00. Actually, it would be much less. If you go to the PayPal site ( https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_display-receiving-fees-outside ) you'll see the fees are $0.30 + 2.9% of the transaction. (Note that it is based upon the transaction amount, not the selling price.) On the other hand, you initiated the auction knowing in advance you may have to pay a PayPal fee if the buyer used PayPal. Did you adjust your reserve or opening bid to offset that expense? If you did, then you were compensated, if not, you are responsible for not getting what you wanted out of the item, not PayPal. I suppose that if the item had sold for $1.66, you would still complain about the PayPal costs. PayPal fees are just a part of doing business. Article: 321553 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: A Few Walton questions From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <6fcqg15fpog1iqlgi4ns06p4jnf79f0rq0@4ax.com> <1124988900.317456c231a98ae96e2e2d316d3a8ca5@teranews> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:50:45 GMT In article , farside114@hotmail.com says... > > Well thats not a bad looking Walton Fake... there are a few fine points where you can tell it isn't an original in the construction. Speaker isn't correct for a 12 tube either.. as for the wood being light... usually after strip and refinish they are maybe not quite that light... but considerably lighter than they are supposed to be... Zenith toned the whole cabinet originally.. my own that I have had for years came to me from another local buddy that had just done it natural with no toners... it set here like that for the last 10 years and finally had Jean do the toning on it so it now looks like it should... John k9uwa Article: 321554 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: found in ma's basement From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1124766349.900785.144210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <5cFPe.67341$084.15139@attbi_s22> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:56:17 GMT In article , lagartixa@worldnet.att.net says... > > >DON'T PUSH YOUR LUCK! >if you can't leave your hand on it, it's too hot and >will likely fail sooner or later if you don't do something to lighten the >load (typically remove the old capacitors from the B+ filter network). > >DD and drop the incoming line voltage to the whole radio with a nice power resistor... for this set... make the radio run on about 100 volts AC and the temp on the transformer will be such that the set will live for years..... do this AFTER YOU REPLACE THE OLD CAPS IN IT... John k9uwa Article: 321555 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Passing on PayPal Fees? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <8MCdnX88D6DoQ1bfRVn-hA@comcast.com> <11cooflc96cdd60@corp.supernews.com> <1125040733.23efc499d73bab4c6db064d1dbad7f2b@teranews> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:03:55 GMT In article , none@domain.invalid says... > > >https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_display-receiving-fees-outside >) you'll see the fees are $0.30 + 2.9% of the transaction. (Note that it >is based upon the transaction amount, not the selling price.) > yup 2.9% plus 30 cents on the whole amount including the money they send to you for shipping.... then if you use the click and print UPS shipping bit... PayPal to pay your UPS bill... PayPal gives me back 1.5% of the money they sent to UPS... they also give me the same 1.5% back for buying dinner at Red Lobster etc.... they are of course charging UPS and Red Lobster 3% ... and giving me 1/2 of it back for using the system... so yes on small items... or where the shipping is large part of item price... the take by paypal is more than 3% ... thats life... get used to it... and yes Bidders will pay more for your item than if they had to actually do something to pay you... John k9uwa... happy PayPal user! Article: 321556 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Replace 30-year-old e-caps? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <430d27e3$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:14:11 GMT In article , gtayman@gate.net says... > > >If I use four new axials underneath, the caps are typically $3-4 each for >the 450v types, and 79 cents for the 25 volt, so I've spent around $12-15. Gary where in the world are you buying caps that your paying that sort of money for them?.... even buying one and two of a type Mark Oppat gets NO WHERE NEAR 3 to 4 bucks each for the things... a buck each roughly if you guying 10 of them.... 10's and 22's... with the 10's under a buck and the 22's over a buck by a hair.... the axials are a bit more than radials... radials are also smaller and sometimes easier to install... somebody is hosing you buy good for caps!... just taking the old FP out of the case is a PITA ... if you can get to it... IN THE CHASSIS with a drill... you can rip the guts out in 3 or 4 minutes and never remove it from the chassis... John k9uwa Article: 321557 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Philco 46-1201 Code 127? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1124628866.827849.309500@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:16:23 GMT In article , p.pinyotREMOVE@REMOVEworldnet.attREMOVE.netREMOVE says... > > > >Would it be this one: http://www.ppinyot.com/Philco40150/antenna.htm >or >http://www.ppinyot.com/rotating_antenna.htm > > >Paul P. > > Very nicely made antenna Paul... but not what is needed on this one.. John k9uwa Article: 321558 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1124564035.959548.159350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125057335.222142.103860@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:20:19 GMT In article <1125057335.222142.103860@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, n9vu@yahoo.com says... > > >works. One thing I noticed is the speaker emits a HARSH vibration on >heavy bass response. The more I think about it and this may sound odd > Thanks, GB. > try an airhose down around the center of the speaker... good chance that something inside is rubbing when the speaker really moves a lot... perhaps you can blow it out... blow air into the crack around the center post while carefully pushing the speaker in and out with your hands... be careful not to punch holes in the cone with your fingers... John k9uwa Article: 321559 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <6fcqg15fpog1iqlgi4ns06p4jnf79f0rq0@4ax.com> <1124988900.317456c231a98ae96e2e2d316d3a8ca5@teranews> Subject: Re: A Few Walton questions Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 14:41:54 GMT "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message news:f4xPe.1095$Ld.376330@news20.bellglobal.com... > > Jim, do I understand you to mean that the image in the binaries is > the US$1300 repro? The radio I pictured is one that Jim Choroszy put together with a chassis/speaker he had, and a cabinet that he had commissioned. The cabinet was a one-off project done by a local cabinetmaker from supplied dimensions and images at a cost of $1,300. I don't know that there is anything known as a "US$1300 repro". The asking price at the meet was $1,800. > While IMHO it is good "workman" grade cabinetry, from what I can see > of it it's not what I would call "fine" cabinetry. The finish looks > well done, but is that how light the original ones were? I would > have thought they would shoot some toner on it. I have no idea what the conversations were between Jim and the cabinetmaker. I can only guess that the cabinetmaker tried to make it appear exactly the way Jim wanted it. If that means it appears non-original in the toning, that isn't up to us to decide whether doing it that way was right or wrong. This is clearly a reproduction cabinet, and Jim never was trying to pass it off as an original. > > Sorry to seem like I'm complaining, I can see that someone spent a > fair bit of time with a router, just having a problem equating that > to 1,300 bucks worth. > Worth is a funny thing. Some in this group can rebuild an AA5 easily in less than an hour, while others here will charge a fee of $20 per tube, or $100. If both do the same workmanship, then the only true worth of their services is what somone is willing to pay. Maybe a different cabinetmaker would have done this job for $500, $1,000, or $1750. In any event, this is a fine radio for an interior decorator who is not concerned about originality or history. It's a great looking display piece. jim menning Article: 321560 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 08:47:00 -0600 Message-ID: <2497-430F2B64-357@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <6eKdnRIBNYH755DeRVn-oQ@comcast.com> wonder if fabric glue will survive over time? Phil B Yes ( story again ) i have a mid 70s Advent home speaker that got the foam surround rot problem and had cracked up so i coated the rotting surround on both sides with fabric glue . This speaker box was used for years as a subwoofer hooked to a small sub amp in my truck in all sorts of weather and loud bass . The speaker is still in the truck and the fabric glue is as good as the first day . I know anything will work its not rocket science :-) its paper . Only trying to spread the news on what works real good . BTW you do not need any patch material over a simple rip using fabric glue . Now to the brandy bottle ! Article: 321561 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1124564035.959548.159350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6eKdnRIBNYH755DeRVn-oQ@comcast.com> <1125057335.222142.103860@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 11:18:50 -0400 "RadioGary" a écrit > With all said and done I may go for the duct tape as a test to see if > this > works. One thing I noticed is the speaker emits a HARSH vibration on > heavy bass response. Use more duct tape. Syl Article: 321562 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: OT: Mercedes Harmonic Balancer "Campaign" OT Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:04:36 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1124932231.652640.91400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8sCdnaJRaLuTnpPeRVn-qg@adelphia.com> "BH" wrote in message news:I5-dnanxzukwNZPeRVn-uQ@gbronline.com... > Phil B wrote: >> >> >> I have a 92 Ford that just recently developed a sticky accelerator. I >> was surprised when I floored the pedal and it stayed there! I >> instintively stepped on the brakes until I figured out what happened. >> The brakes did indeed overcome the V6 engine nicely. I tapped the >> accelerator and it came unstuck. In retrospect, if tapping didn't work, >> I would have shifted to neutral. That crossed my mind at the time. > > Better you turn the key off, if you shifted into neutral the engine > probably would have over-reved. key goes off, steering locks, then what? bad choice... randy Article: 321563 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: OT: Mercedes Harmonic Balancer "Campaign" OT Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:05:26 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1124932231.652640.91400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8sCdnaJRaLuTnpPeRVn-qg@adelphia.com> <6q7tg1ldu28cb1k1juvr2u3rbblej7nd3f@4ax.com> "Phil B" wrote in message news:wKKdnd5xmZgyL5PeRVn-3Q@comcast.com... > Same thing happened here a few years ago in a church parking lot just > before services with a crowd of people walking across the lot. An > elderly lady stomped on the accelerator instead of the break and pinned > a woman under the front up against the building. The woman survived with > some paralysis and some brain damage. It makes you wonder why obviously > incapacitated elderly people are still allowed to drive. because they vote and pay taxes.. randy Article: 321564 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 13:11:28 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1124564035.959548.159350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6eKdnRIBNYH755DeRVn-oQ@comcast.com> <1125057335.222142.103860@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> "Syl" wrote in message news:KpGPe.18865$vR3.375985@wagner.videotron.net... > "RadioGary" a écrit > >> With all said and done I may go for the duct tape as a test to see if >> this >> works. One thing I noticed is the speaker emits a HARSH vibration on >> heavy bass response. > > Use more duct tape. you just dont like that answer do ya duct tape is basically 'backer' and glue. same thing all the other fixes recommend. if you use a large piece it will indeed come right off. use the smallest piece you can. randy Article: 321565 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <1125073899.567175.171470@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ISO Schematic for Philips 343A Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 19:32:28 GMT > When you get the schematic you might want to see if the transformer can > be set to run on 110v, as many of these European radios had variable > voltage power transformers. > > > 73, > > Tim That is what I am hoping. It has a switch for 200 to 240 but no 120 v settings. Paul. Article: 321566 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <6fcqg15fpog1iqlgi4ns06p4jnf79f0rq0@4ax.com> <1124988900.317456c231a98ae96e2e2d316d3a8ca5@teranews> Subject: Re: A Few Walton questions Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 15:26:05 -0400 "jim menning" wrote in message news:SSFPe.16233$mb4.908@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message > news:f4xPe.1095$Ld.376330@news20.bellglobal.com... >> >> Jim, do I understand you to mean that the image in the binaries is the >> US$1300 repro? > > The radio I pictured is one that Jim Choroszy put together with a > chassis/speaker he had, and a cabinet that he had commissioned. The > cabinet was a one-off project done by a local cabinetmaker from supplied > dimensions and images at a cost of $1,300. I don't know that there is > anything known as a "US$1300 repro". The asking price at the meet was > $1,800. The title of your post on the binaries is "Repro Walton cabinet". You said in this thread he paid US$1300. Please excuse my shorthand. >> While IMHO it is good "workman" grade cabinetry, from what I can see of >> it it's not what I would call "fine" cabinetry. The finish looks well >> done, but is that how light the original ones were? I would have thought >> they would shoot some toner on it. > > I have no idea what the conversations were between Jim and the > cabinetmaker. I can only guess that the cabinetmaker tried to make it > appear exactly the way Jim wanted it. If that means it appears > non-original in the toning, that isn't up to us to decide whether doing it > that way was right or wrong. This is clearly a reproduction cabinet, and > Jim never was trying to pass it off as an original. Where does your last comment come from ("pass off")? How did I imply that was his intent? >> Sorry to seem like I'm complaining, I can see that someone spent a fair >> bit of time with a router, just having a problem equating that to 1,300 >> bucks worth. >> > > Worth is a funny thing. Some in this group can rebuild an AA5 easily in > less than an hour, while others here will charge a fee of $20 per tube, or > $100. If both do the same workmanship, then the only true worth of their > services is what somone is willing to pay. Maybe a different cabinetmaker > would have done this job for $500, $1,000, or $1750. In any event, this > is a fine radio for an interior decorator who is not concerned about > originality or history. It's a great looking display piece. Well, if you say so. I still feel that I would be disappointed with the results had I commissioned it, but then again, I'm not an interior decorator. I have, however, had furniture professionally refinished, and let me tell you, it's worlds apart from what this gentleman got for his investment. Que sera sera, as the song goes... Frank Article: 321567 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <6fcqg15fpog1iqlgi4ns06p4jnf79f0rq0@4ax.com> <1124988900.317456c231a98ae96e2e2d316d3a8ca5@teranews> Subject: Re: A Few Walton questions Message-ID: <1zLPe.32255$32.16338@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:10:21 GMT "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message news:l1KPe.1552$Ld.409718@news20.bellglobal.com... > > > Where does your last comment come from ("pass off")? How did I > imply that was his intent? > You didn't, and I didn't accuse you of that. You may be getting a bit defensive here for no reason. I just made it clear that the cabinet was designed to meet the buyer's criteria, and not to appear to be an original 70 year old cabinet. That comment was in justification as to why the toning may not appear correct to you. It may not have been Jim's wishes for it to look old. > Well, if you say so. I still feel that I would be disappointed with > the results had I commissioned it, but then again, I'm not an > interior decorator. I have, however, had furniture professionally > refinished, and let me tell you, it's worlds apart from what this > gentleman got for his investment. > > Que sera sera, as the song goes... Well, he got what he wanted at a price he was willing to pay, and that's all that really matters. jim menning Article: 321568 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: OT: Mercedes Harmonic Balancer "Campaign" OT Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:27:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1124932231.652640.91400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8sCdnaJRaLuTnpPeRVn-qg@adelphia.com> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 13:42:31 -0400 Roger D Johnson wrote: >I have a question for this learned group. We constantly >hear news reports about the "sudden acceleration" problem. >There was a case on court TV recently where a woman claimed >that the cruise control on her car caused it to accelerate >resulting in an accident. Most of that was years ago, a claimed problem with the Audi 5000. Road & Track instrumented one of those cars and put it out on a test course with a lot of average drivers and eventually got enough cases of "unintended acceleration" to be able to state that the cause always appeared to be driver error. In other words, the drivers hit the wrong pedal. Audi, and others, attacked the problem by interlocking the brake pedal to the shift lever, so that the only way you could get the car out of park was with your foot on the brake. This completely stopped the incidents. >In my opinion, the braking system on cars is robust enough >to overcome the power of the engine and bring the car to a >halt. Does anyone have any opinions? You're completely right. Furthermore, at least in the case of the Audi 5000, that was a front wheel drive car. If the incidents had actually happened as the drivers described, there should have been, at the very least, skid marks from the locked up rear tires. >The TV show did not address the obvious solutions such as >turning off the ignition or putting the transmission in >neutral. I suspect that the drivers would be somewhat justified in saying that it all happened too fast for them to make this decision. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 321569 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: OT: Mercedes Harmonic Balancer "Campaign" OT Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:27:37 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1124932231.652640.91400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 24 Aug 2005 18:10:31 -0700 "Peter Wieck" wrote: >Mercedes Benz has an open campaign to replace Harmonic Balancers for >certain of its vehicles, mostly those with the 3.2 liter V6. What >happens is that the balancer will fail without warning, causing the >serpentine belt to sieze and often stopping the engine altogether. This >will then cause loss of steering and braking power (at least). Peter, I just spent a most unrewarding day with a Ford serpentine belt, so I think I know a little bit about this. I'm puzzled, however, about why this would cause the engine to stop. Certainly loss of the serpentine belt would cause loss of power steering, air conditioning, and charging. If the engine stopped, you'd lose power brakes, but most power brake systems include a reservoir which will give you at least one good stop. Do you know why the engine stops? Does the harmonic balancer break so deep in the block that it causes the engine to seize? If so, it seems like your list of things that needed to be replaced is too short. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 321570 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: Antique Radiophily Threatened by Trojans. Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 16:27:35 -0500 Message-ID: <92ssg1dbfg0jf6jjm01fp2lc6mlurg9jf1@4ax.com> References: <1124982830.581238.14000@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 25 Aug 2005 08:13:50 -0700 tschw10117@aol.com wrote: >Jim, my experience has been that if you run Ad-Aware, Spybot S&D is >unnecessary-- it finds and stops nothing that isn't covered by >Ad-Aware. Hmmm, I guess I really don't know. Our tech support guys at work recommended that we use BOTH. I'm pretty sure that I downloaded Spybot first, and then Ad-Aware, which found a few more things. So you could be right. But then Spybot "Immunizes" against some things, something which Ad-Aware does not do. So perhaps there is good reason to do both. The really good news is that they have both been coming up empty of late. I hope that's a good sign, and not just a sign that they can't find the latest bugs. At least we know that new data files keep becoming available. I just updated Ad-Aware tonight. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 321571 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Attention Ohio Types.... Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 19:03:35 -0400 Message-ID: <11gv7u75krs5e67@corp.supernews.com> Got one of these last Kutztown, it's one of the great ones- http://cgi.ebay.com/ANTIQUE-PHILCO-FLOOR-TUBE-RADIO-116-122_W0QQitemZ6555298894QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Article: 321572 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: OT: Mercedes Harmonic Balancer "Campaign" OT Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 18:00:25 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1124932231.652640.91400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8sCdnaJRaLuTnpPeRVn-qg@adelphia.com> <430F6F44.6020501@adelphia.net> "Roger D Johnson" wrote in message news:430F6F44.6020501@adelphia.net... > xrongor wrote: > >> >> key goes off, steering locks, then what? bad choice... >> >> randy > > Not on any car I've driven lately! There is an ignition off > position before it locks. In the RAV-4 I drive at work, the > transmission must be in park to turn the ignition to lock. not something i would want to bet my life on... but lets say it doesnt lock the wheel. so now the key goes off, power steering goes off, power brakes go off, you arent ready for it and you're already in a state of panic because the gas pedal stuck. not the time to be messing around to 'save your engine'. all im saying is that turning off the ignition shouldnt happen until you have control of the car (i.e stopped). any credible source on what to do in that situation will back this up. better to put it in neutral and blow a motor than die. but to each his own. just dont be headed for me when it happens and you're futzing for the keys randy Article: 321573 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <8MCdnX88D6DoQ1bfRVn-hA@comcast.com> <11cooflc96cdd60@corp.supernews.com> <1125040733.23efc499d73bab4c6db064d1dbad7f2b@teranews> Subject: Re: Passing on PayPal Fees? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 20:32:43 -0400 "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:SKKdnQ2vnaejB5LeRVn-1g@comcast.com... > > > the fee is a hcek of a lot more than 3% - if I sell an item for $10 or > > In addition to the "percentage", there is a flat "handling fee" for each > transaction. On small purchases, the fee pushes up the effective percentage. > > They just whacked me an additional 75 cents for a border crossing fee because I sold to a Canadian!!!!!! Article: 321574 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <1124910763.134449.205110@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <8PcPe.2513$sw6.411@fed1read05> <1124978048.589597.3550@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT, The Total score!!! Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 19:26:45 -0700 Sure, Id be willing to part it out... What do you have for trade???? In addition, I would take a look at the web for info on the nixies in this counter.... I believe that they are rather strange as the use neon bulbs to isolate the driver..... Bob in phx wrote in message news:1124978048.589597.3550@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Oooh, beautiful but just too big. I'm fresh out of room in my 19" > equipment racks :-) Now if you want to just send me the nixies.... > > Terry. > Article: 321575 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT, The Total score!!! References: <1124910763.134449.205110@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <8PcPe.2513$sw6.411@fed1read05> <1124978048.589597.3550@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 22:23:01 -0500 Bob in Phx wrote: > Sure, Id be willing to part it out... What do you have for trade???? In > addition, I would take a look at the web for info on the nixies in this > counter.... I believe that they are rather strange as the use neon bulbs to > isolate the driver..... The Nixies themselves are standard - the decade cards have an optical matrix that converts the binary count into digits (which then drive the Nixies). It's the optical matrix that uses neon bulbs (that's what's in those black plastic "blocks" on each decade card). best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321576 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: More obscure radios. Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 03:45:33 GMT Back at work after a few days off; back to the satellite Internet which enables much faster downloads than my home dial-up. So I figured I'd go off in search of schematics for some of the radios in my stash. Got the Zenith 7H822 no problem from Nostalgiaair. While I was off, I went to the Studebaker Drivers Club International Meet in Spokane, WA. (the real obsession :>) There, I was able to purchase a Studebaker-Philco S-1722 radio, which is the correct fit for my 1940 Champion coupe. Oooh! It hurt to part with the money, but I figured I might never see another one, and this one is in good shape, and includes the brackets to mount it. I was able to download a schematic for it from the 'net. Kinda neat, it has what appears to be a motor-driven station selector switch that selects from one of five preset tuned circuits, in addition to the manual tuning dial. I will have a shot at getting this to work, re-cap, etc. While at the meet, I saw what I would call a "luggage radio" with the Studebaker brand. Appeared to be a battery portable about the the size of an AA5, wooden case covered in tweedy-looking luggage cloth. I'd guess late '30s or early '40s. That one was not for sale, but now that I know they exist, I'd love to have one. Anybody here familiar with such radios? I expect they were made by one or more radio manufacturers, and branded with various auto-makers' names for sale out of the accessory catalog. Back home, I copied down some data off radios from my stash so as to search for schematics, etc. Here are 3 that I drew a blank on: 1. RCA Victor (Cdn.) model M45, ser. no. 698 AM plus 3 SW bands, tube line-up is: 6SA7, 6SK7, 6SQ7, 6K6, and 5Y4 (nope, not a 5Y3) Actually, other than it's a transformer set, it doesn't appear to be much different from an AA5. It's a wooden table radio, BTW. 2. Deforest 8 tube spread band. Floor model, cabinet marked Statler RM58, chassis 9D891. Has Majestic M-suffix tubes in it, so maybe Rogers-Majestic had a hand in it? Tube line-up: 6J8M, two 6K7M, 75M, 41M, two 2X3, and 6X6 eye tube. I think an electrolytic cap is smoked in this one. 3. Aja, ser. no. 1226. Made in Western Germany. No model number that I can see. Looks like a lot of the Telefunken-Nordmende-Grundig "Danish Modern" table radios that were popular in the late '50 - early '60s. Has FM, also an eye tube. Other than some dirty contacts in the piano-key style bandswitches and tone switches, this one works just fine. It has a 3-way speaker system, with 8" woofer, two mid range drivers on the cabinet ends, and a 3" tweeter. Actually sounds great. Anybody heard of these? I'm wondering if it was a house brand for a big retailer. Do sets this late, or German sets in general need re-capping as a matter of course? That's about it for dumb questions right now. I don't think I actually NEED schematics for the RCA or the Deforest. They are both pretty straightforward superhet designs. I plan to replace the paper and electrolytic caps, and any shaky wiring I find. The big Deforest did play until a filter capacitor went out. I think the power transformer is OK. It did not smell like burnt transformer windings. I know what that smells like. Gordon Richmond Article: 321577 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <1124564035.959548.159350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6eKdnRIBNYH755DeRVn-oQ@comcast.com> <1125057335.222142.103860@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker Message-ID: Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 23:48:39 -0400 "Syl" wrote in message news:KpGPe.18865$vR3.375985@wagner.videotron.net... > "RadioGary" a écrit > >> With all said and done I may go for the duct tape as a test to see if >> this >> works. One thing I noticed is the speaker emits a HARSH vibration on >> heavy bass response. > > Use more duct tape. > > Syl Wasn't it Red Green who said. "If it can't be fixed with Vise-Grips & duct tape, it can't be fixed."? Frank ps: salut, Syl, heureux de te voir! Article: 321578 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <9Ludnc4omqFzj5LeRVn-hA@comcast.com> <1125084371.202865.187080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1125084791.895678.207780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: TRUCE! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 04:07:05 GMT I always considered that as Murphy's Golden Rule. It definitely applies in a lot of cases, but not necessarily here -- as I don't think anyone here has any gold. We've spent it all on old radios . . . Steven, you've made some inflammatory postings here, I've heard of incidents off this newsgroup, and people talk of medication. Personally I don't know or care; your conversations with me directly have been informative and on subject. From what I see, many of your flames are in response to those of others. Whatever the case and wherever it started, my recommendation to you is the same as my recommendation to everyone else -- if you get verbally attacked, don't bother to respond. You might continue to be attacked for awhile, but if you stay silent, the attackers will be forced to stop their flames for lack of fuel. Likewise, if anyone else flames anyone else, with no response, the people posting the flames will be the ones who look bad instead of the recipient. I personally have found this newsgroup, for the most part, educational and enjoyable -- not to mention a source of online cameraderie. I post messages here whenever I can contribute. On a few occasions I've received some very nasty flames -- totally unwarranted. I'll scratch my head and ask why, but then I let it go -- no response. As a result such flames are few and far between. (Of course now that I brought it up . . .) -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Steven" wrote in message news:1125084791.895678.207780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > PS Thought it was, "whomever has the gold makes the rules" > > That's not correct either. > Article: 321579 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1124932231.652640.91400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8sCdnaJRaLuTnpPeRVn-qg@adelphia.com> <430F6F44.6020501@adelphia.net> <3a2dncskFLqMKZLeRVn-qQ@adelphia.com> Subject: Re: OT: Mercedes Harmonic Balancer "Campaign" OT Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 04:15:20 GMT Am I missing something here? The power steering may quit if the engine stalls, but with the car moving you should still be able to steer -- harder, but possible. As for brakes, if the engine stalls there should be enough vacuum retention to allow you to apply the brakes two or three times before you lose power assist. In fact, with any car I've ever had, including my 64 Thunderbird, you can get in the car the next day and, without starting it, apply the brakes. I don't think the DOT would allow a car on the street if this wasn't incorporated into it's design -- it's an obvious safety measure. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Roger D Johnson" wrote in message news:3a2dncskFLqMKZLeRVn-qQ@adelphia.com... > xrongor wrote: > >> >> not something i would want to bet my life on... but lets say it doesnt >> lock the wheel. >> >> so now the key goes off, power steering goes off, power brakes go off, >> you arent ready for it and you're already in a state of panic because the >> gas pedal stuck. not the time to be messing around to 'save your >> engine'. >> >> all im saying is that turning off the ignition shouldnt happen until you >> have control of the car (i.e stopped). any credible source on what to do >> in that situation will back this up. better to put it in neutral and >> blow a motor than die. but to each his own. just dont be headed for me >> when it happens and you're futzing for the keys >> >> randy > > > We've gotten way off the topic I wanted an answer to. However, in > most cars turning off the key doesn't cause everything to quit as > the engine is still being driven through the transmission. > > 73, Roger > > -- > Remove tilde (~) to reply > > Remember the USS Liberty (AGTR-5) > http://ussliberty.org/ Article: 321580 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <1124932231.652640.91400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <430D26F8.F3533BDB@optonline.net> <5lhqg1t6oo3uib4le2q48idomdgbrpflpo@4ax.com> <1125102571.814019.58900@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT: Mercedes Harmonic Balancer "Campaign" OT Message-ID: <1125117960.4c520b6e165c326f185c4e733611794b@teranews> Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:45:54 -0700 some technical details behind this (by the way, my porsche manuals all say change it every 2 years) glycol based brake fluid is hydroscopic (absorbs water from the air). the water and fluid mixture is acidic and corrodes the cylinders. a magazine called skinned knuckles ran a series of articles on this a while back (like 20 years ago) that was quite detailed. so you have two choices 1. change fluid every year or two (I do this on some cars) 2. use DOT 5 fluid Dot 5 fluid is hydrophobic (it's an oil) but it tends to entrap bubbles so you need to be careful. also the older dot 5 fluid (Haven't tried new fluid) doesn't make the brake cups expand, so it tends to be more prone to leakage. It would just leak out on my 51 dodge and 36 cad, but it's been fine for over 20 years in my 56 porsche and 59 cad - both the latter cars have had no brake work of any kind for at least 20 years and are fine (as far as brake pistons are concerned). "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1125102571.814019.58900@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Scott: > > The fine print on the Mercedes (& Volvo & Saab) maintenance manuals > suggests that the brake-fluid be changed every three years. It has been > my experience that this is a very worthwhile investment, such that I > tend to do it every two years... based on visible color change in the > fluid. What happens is that under some conditions, the brake-fluid will > boil (Brake fluid naturally absorbs water) causing complete brake > failure if there is enough water in it. Once the system cools down, the > vapor will condense thereby concealing the problem. > > With ABS systems not only does the potential for fluid-boil exist, but > water can damage the ABS pump... a NOT CHEAP fix. > > So, like religion, change your brake fluid the *MOMENT* the color > changes significantly. You can do it (with a helper) in about an hour > with about $5 worth of parts/tools + the appropriate brake fluid. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 321581 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: OT: Mercedes Harmonic Balancer "Campaign" OT Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 21:31:19 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1124932231.652640.91400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8sCdnaJRaLuTnpPeRVn-qg@adelphia.com> Jim Adney wrote: > Most of that was years ago, a claimed problem with the Audi 5000. Road > & Track instrumented one of those cars and put it out on a test course > with a lot of average drivers and eventually got enough cases of > "unintended acceleration" to be able to state that the cause always > appeared to be driver error. In other words, the drivers hit the wrong > pedal. > The problem with the 5000 was ergonomic, not mechanical. Audi did the following stupid things when they designed the 5000: They put a silly little tray right underneath the steering wheel at approximately knee level. This tray jutted out enough to completely block the view of the foot controls when seated behind the wheel. This meant that you had to rely on tactile feedback to figure out which pedal you were stepping on when you are first seated in the car. They angled the accelerator pedal enough for it to take up almost as much horizontal displacement on the floorboard as the brake pedal. They made the mechanical resistance of the accelerator unusually stiff thus, the "feel" of the accelerator and brake pedals were approximately equal. Any one of these things by itself would have been merely a harmless annoyance; all three of them together was deadly. In essence, the explaination given by Audi at the time was correct....The driver would mistakenly press the accelerator instead of the brake. Left out of that explaination was WHY it occured so much more often in a 5000 than the other cars on the road. Here in Silicon Valley, these cars were so vilified that several of my friends bought them as second cars for millicents on the dollar ($100-$400 was a common asking price for a 5000 with less than 75K on the odo). One of these guys had two of these cars and he ripped out the trays and modified the accelerator pedal orientation, and never had any trouble with either one, in spite of neither one having the shift-lock installed. These were not great cars BTW. I got to work on several elderly ones back in the eighties, and they all seemed to be prone to serious blow-by and valve wear issues after they hit 100K miles or so. The suspension was pretty sucky too. Not a cheap or easy repair, particularly for a car with virtually no resale value. -Scott Article: 321582 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: OT: Mercedes Harmonic Balancer "Campaign" OT Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 23:02:27 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1124932231.652640.91400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8sCdnaJRaLuTnpPeRVn-qg@adelphia.com> <430F6F44.6020501@adelphia.net> <3a2dncskFLqMKZLeRVn-qQ@adelphia.com> you want harder steering when you already have an emergency on your hands? you want to bet your life that your brakes will be at full stopping capacity when you KNOW they will if you leave the engine running? im not saying dont go for the keys. just dont go for them first. you got a ton of steel probably up to 50 or 60 at least by the time you realize what has happened, maybe even with traffic around, to worry about controlling and thats a bit more important than possibly burning up an engine, which probably wont happen on any modern car because the rev limiter will kick in. please stop telling people to go for the keys. its wrong and potentially dangerous. search the web. do any research on the subject. im not just making this up. randy > Am I missing something here? The power steering may quit if the engine > stalls, but with the car moving you should still be able to steer -- > harder, but possible. As for brakes, if the engine stalls there should be > enough vacuum retention to allow you to apply the brakes two or three > times before you lose power assist. In fact, with any car I've ever had, > including my 64 Thunderbird, you can get in the car the next day and, > without starting it, apply the brakes. I don't think the DOT would allow > a car on the street if this wasn't incorporated into it's design -- it's > an obvious safety measure. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > "Roger D Johnson" wrote in message > news:3a2dncskFLqMKZLeRVn-qQ@adelphia.com... >> xrongor wrote: >> >>> >>> not something i would want to bet my life on... but lets say it doesnt >>> lock the wheel. >>> >>> so now the key goes off, power steering goes off, power brakes go off, >>> you arent ready for it and you're already in a state of panic because >>> the gas pedal stuck. not the time to be messing around to 'save your >>> engine'. >>> >>> all im saying is that turning off the ignition shouldnt happen until you >>> have control of the car (i.e stopped). any credible source on what to >>> do in that situation will back this up. better to put it in neutral and >>> blow a motor than die. but to each his own. just dont be headed for me >>> when it happens and you're futzing for the keys >>> >>> randy >> >> >> We've gotten way off the topic I wanted an answer to. However, in >> most cars turning off the key doesn't cause everything to quit as >> the engine is still being driven through the transmission. >> >> 73, Roger >> >> -- >> Remove tilde (~) to reply >> >> Remember the USS Liberty (AGTR-5) >> http://ussliberty.org/ > > Article: 321583 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: OT: Mercedes Harmonic Balancer "Campaign" OT Date: Fri, 26 Aug 2005 23:03:37 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1124932231.652640.91400@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8sCdnaJRaLuTnpPeRVn-qg@adelphia.com> <3JSdnRY6tZQVUpLeRVn-2A@gbronline.com> "BH" wrote in message news:3JSdnRY6tZQVUpLeRVn-2A@gbronline.com... > xrongor wrote: >> "BH" wrote in message >> news:I5-dnanxzukwNZPeRVn-uQ@gbronline.com... >> >>>Phil B wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>I have a 92 Ford that just recently developed a sticky accelerator. I >>>>was surprised when I floored the pedal and it stayed there! I >>>>instintively stepped on the brakes until I figured out what happened. >>>>The brakes did indeed overcome the V6 engine nicely. I tapped the >>>>accelerator and it came unstuck. In retrospect, if tapping didn't work, >>>>I would have shifted to neutral. That crossed my mind at the time. >>> >>>Better you turn the key off, if you shifted into neutral the engine >>>probably would have over-reved. >> >> >> key goes off, steering locks, then what? bad choice... >> >> randy > > Good point, however on my 95 Windstar you can turn the key just for enough > to kill the engine but not lock the steering. Might be hard to do in a > moment of panic though. this is my whole point. you already have a problem with a stuck gas pedal. going for the keys is the wrong action. doesnt really solve your immediate problem and could make them worse. the only thing going for the keys does is possibly save the engine should the rev limiter fail, and assuming you dont ram into something thus damaging the engine... there are people out there that honestly believe in their hearts that by being unbuckled they are going to leap free of an accident too. randy Article: 321584 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: Telefunken Bajazzo Sport 201 Date: 27 Aug 2005 02:38:02 -0500 Message-ID: <431017dc$0$224$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: IvAn wrote: > Please help > > Need dial cord schematics diagram for Bajazzo Sport 201 > > Thanks in advance > > Ivan > I'd like to help you out, Ivan, but my hands are tangled up in all this string. I can hardly move, it's so bad. Bubba Article: 321585 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <1124910763.134449.205110@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <8PcPe.2513$sw6.411@fed1read05> <1124978048.589597.3550@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT, The Total score!!! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 01:23:15 -0700 Thanks for the info... I knew there was something funny there!!! Just goes to show how much I know!!! bob in phx... "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message news:Q_QPe.7853$2_.4403@bignews6.bellsouth.net... > Bob in Phx wrote: >> Sure, Id be willing to part it out... What do you have for trade???? In >> addition, I would take a look at the web for info on the nixies in this >> counter.... I believe that they are rather strange as the use neon bulbs >> to isolate the driver..... > > The Nixies themselves are standard - the decade cards have an optical > matrix that converts the binary count into digits (which then drive the > Nixies). It's the optical matrix that uses neon bulbs (that's what's in > those black plastic "blocks" on each decade card). > > best regards... > -- > randy guttery > > A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews > so vital to the United States Silent Service: > http://tendertale.com Article: 321586 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: Contact Cleaner recommended by HP Date: 27 Aug 2005 05:14:04 -0500 Message-ID: <43103c4a$0$194$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: <1124929119.200257.311480@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Tim Mullen wrote: > In <1124929119.200257.311480@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" writes: > > >>Note also: that I have used glacial ammonia (AKA Diazo developer) to >>remove paint. It is strong stuff, no fun and not recommended around >>electronic gear. That is 29.5%, by the way. > > > Interesting! That must be where the formulation came from. > > >>If HP was suggesting these two materials for cleaning 11 years ago, I >>have to wonder at their reasoning as to use these particular materials >>on that particular item. Must be something peculiar to the item and not >>a general recommendation. > > > No, not at all. In fact, they're not even relevant to this particular > product -- it's a 1RU box with two circuit boards interconnected with > ribbons and no edge connectors. > > The section of the manual I quoted looked like the good old boilerplate > that companies like Tek & HP used to include in their service manuals. > You know, stuff like what wattage soldering iron to use around semiconductors, > how to avoid ESD damage, don't stick your fingers in the light socket; > stuff like that. > > Having trusted the HP of yore as being one of those companies that > usually had good reason for what they said and did, I figured somebody > had actually tested these methodologies. Not necessarily, though. > Nobody's infallible, and maybe this really ain't the best way to clean > contacts. Figured I'd throw it into the fray anyway. > HP's manual probably was boilerplate, and this section may have been lifted from something else. The reason is that for their documentation, instead of word processing or WYSIWYG software, they used a proprietary version of Structured Generalized Markup Language (SGML): a direct predecessor of HTML. Creating documents with it was a real bitch: all the manuals had to be hand-coded with embedded codes <\and this>. Forget one of these marks or get the syntax wrong, and 80 pages of garbage come out of the printer. Been there; done that. Bubba Article: 321587 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: More obscure radios. Message-ID: <1pn0h1pt6f48uon0u8n78goq3gheu1t4g4@4ax.com> References: <1125144491.962979.129520@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 12:49:52 GMT Well, thank you, Steven. That link does indeed show a picture, the 1962 "Super" model, that closely resembles mine. Mine has a slightly more angular cabinet, and the knobs are ivory, not brown. I could not enlarge the thumbnails on the site for a better look. It is a good-sounding radio, but I have to say that the cabinet and trim seem a little cheap. The maker's nameplate on the front is just stamped tin, and looks flimsy. And there is a real dearth of identifying data either on or inside the case. Nothing but a serial number. Gordon Richmond Article: 321588 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1124766349.900785.144210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFPe.67341$084.15139@attbi_s22> Subject: Re: found in ma's basement Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 12:58:54 GMT John, I've been following this thread with interest, since I recently picked up an AK-60 myself. I've been told it works, but I have not yet applied power. A friend told me the oil-filled caps seem to be okay in these (he has two 55's) but I'm still leery. I personally would rather replace them -- but I have yet to decide how to install them. Bear in mind I have yet to flip it over and look -- too busy typing messages and working on car radios. But I'm listening. As for dropping the voltage, what size resistor are you thinking of? "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:5cFPe.67341$084.15139@attbi_s22... > In article , > lagartixa@worldnet.att.net says... >> >> >>DON'T PUSH YOUR LUCK! >>if you can't leave your hand on it, it's too hot and >>will likely fail sooner or later if you don't do something to lighten the >>load (typically remove the old capacitors from the B+ filter network). >> >>DD > > and drop the incoming line voltage to the whole radio with a nice power > resistor... for this set... make the radio run on about 100 volts AC > and the temp on the transformer will be such that the set will live for > years..... do this AFTER YOU REPLACE THE OLD CAPS IN IT... > > John k9uwa > Article: 321589 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: A Light-Colored Walton Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:16:27 GMT I've compared both of those radios -- this "original" and the repro -- and find the comparison rather interesting. That top section you talked about is definitely lighter, and on the repro it looks like a continuous piece of wood -- veneer vs. carved block? Also on the repro, the vertical stripes on the sides, as well as the one left of center, are curiously lighter than the rest of the set. So you may be right -- it stands to reason that the original used coloring to bring the wood pieces closer to match. BUT -- I'm not going to nit-pick for the sake of criticism; these are both beautiful, nicely done sets! I can only imagine the work that went into making that repro -- and the chassis -- was that stripped and replated? The entire radio looks wonderful. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:t-SdnR3DUfu2dZLeRVn-3Q@giganews.com... > Maybe it's just me, but that looks like a strip job followed by a > too-light (clear?) finish. > > Note on the front near the top how the colors of the wood pieces don't > match. Many old radio cabinets were made of mismatched woods which were > sprayed at the factory with colored toning lacquer to achieve an even > "brown" color. If you strip such a cabinet to bare wood, you'll reveal the > original mismatched woods, which should then be recolored to make an > authentic looking cabinet. > > This one looks like it has the tell-tale "antique mall" finish. Stripped > down to bare wood, then hosed down with whatever clear spray bomb was > handy (let's hope it wasn't polyurethane). > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > Article: 321590 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: TRUCE! References: <9Ludnc4omqFzj5LeRVn-hA@comcast.com> <1125084371.202865.187080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:20:11 GMT Skipp wrote: > It wasn't a truce anyway. Gary was the one that called fora truce. > Just plain crap and I no longer see the complainant. That's because I called for opinions from others. You on the other hand, have been posting the same mindless crap you always post. Speaking of which, I got several replies, NONE of which were in your favor. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321591 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <94mNe.7434$Wi6.5988@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <6TROe.302367$xm3.129821@attbi_s21> Subject: Re: Building a web page Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:30:21 GMT John, Yes, that sounds right -- I recall a display of radios in the front, along with a few jukeboxes. When I was there, I saw something more interesting -- on the other side, near the front, there were some other boxes, including some gizmos that looked almost like a console radio, but were black and nickel -- and appeared to be some sort of medical instruments. Don't know what they are, and I'm not sure I want to know; they might keep me awake at night! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:6TROe.302367$xm3.129821@attbi_s21... > In article , > gtayman@gate.net says... >> >> > BIG PS Gary and others.... the other place... the pretty good sized > junk mall you saw a fair number of radios in.... that would be... > > Webbs Antique Mall in Winter Garden, FL ... its about 2 miles from > where we stay when we are in Florida.... > > yes there are quite a few radios... and a couple of JukeBoxes.... > > DO NOT BUY THEM OR YOU WILL BE VERY VERY VERY SORRY .... > > hate to pick on the guy... but trust me.... they aren't worth dragging > them home.... on the private side ask Chip he will tell you about > the guy... a little hint... he lives in Apopka, FL .... ask > some of the other FL club members.... > > John k9uwa > Article: 321592 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: More obscure radios. Message-ID: References: <1125144491.962979.129520@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:36:47 GMT Did some more Googling. If I can get the link to work, this page depicts a radio that's darn near identical to the one I have. Sounds like the last of its breed. http://www.historische-radios.info/firmen/aja/geraete01.htm If read the German page correctly, the company existed from 1953 to 1962, founded by Alfred Jentsch, hence the "AJ" part of the logo. Gordon Richmond Article: 321593 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <6fcqg15fpog1iqlgi4ns06p4jnf79f0rq0@4ax.com> <1124988900.317456c231a98ae96e2e2d316d3a8ca5@teranews> <1zLPe.32255$32.16338@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1125146760.352615.82920@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A Few Walton questions Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 13:56:09 GMT "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1125146760.352615.82920@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > somebody post a pic so i can see the cabinet please. > > Headed for your email now! ;o) jim menning Article: 321594 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: AWA Rochester Report Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 14:54:42 GMT The original of this message was posted on the AWA email reflector. I thought you folks might be interested. Ron -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [AWA] AWA Conference (long) Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 08:41:08 -0400 From: Larry Szendrei To: AWA Reflector I just returned home from the AWA Annual Conference in Rochester, NY, last nite at about 8:00PM. I made the trip with Bruce, W1UJR. We arrived Tuesday nite and left around noon yesterday. I realize the conference is not over until tonight, but time and $ limitations prevented me from staying. My primary interests were the flea market, the AWA Museum and Annex, seeing and meeting new friends, and the old equipment contest. On the last item, Sam Beverage, W1MGP, had given us an old Western Electric 25B amplifier to enter in the contest, as the theme this year was "Western Electric," and then donate to the AWA museum. This amplifier is a compact by heavy floor-standing unit in an octagonal shape - it looks like it could be an electric space heater. There is no internal speaker, and it uses two type 205A "tennis ball" triodes. It's vintage is mid-20's or so. There were many extremely interesting items in the contest, for example: 1) the original breadboard superhet on which AVC was developed and first implemented - It used battery triodes (01's or 01A's, I think) throughout, 2) a homebrew rotating spiral-mirror mechanical television display, 3) Eddy Swyner's (VE3CUI) 1929 MOPA using a 27 driving a pair of 27's. (I looked for Eddy, as I would have loved to meet him in person after all these years, but our paths didn't cross. Eddy - were you there, or did you have someone else bring your rig to the conference?) We did not stay long enough to see the results of the contest. The flea market didn't have a great deal in the way of amateur gear - most of the stuff is related to collectable entertainment electronics. But there were a lot of vintage parts, tubes, sockets, ceramic insulators, stand-offs, etc., which are my main interest. I saw a Heath DX-60, a Hallacrafters S-38D, an HRO-50 or 60 (didn't look closely; too many other distractions), a couple of older HROs, a couple of National SW-3's. Stu, W2AO, was selling really cute homebrew transmitter with a single 807 in a wooden mini-rack, very nicely constructed. This is not a complete list, I'm sure there was other stuff I didn't pay much attention to and am not remembering now. As usual, there were plenty of wooden console radios, 20's battery sets, (very expen$ive) catalin radios, old transistor portables, tube-type high-fidelety gear, horn and cone speakers, and phonographs (some old mechanical ones). I came home with: 1) lots of breadboard-mount 4-pin tube sockets 2) some NOS adjustable grid-leaks (parallel cap integral with the adjustable resistor) 3) the Alice Schumacher (sp?) Hiram Percy Maxim biography 4) CQ Sideband Handbook by Don Stoner 5) a very interesting and somewhat ratty, but quite restorable, 1920's broadcast battery set ("Buckingham," never heard of it), for $5. No tubes in it (probably uses 01's throughout), interesting ganged tuning arrangement, and an (intact!) moving-film dial arrangement. The panel is a unique, attractive simulated wood grain on metal with two strips of a machined "swirl" pattern on the metal - difficult to describe. There was no cabinet. 6) and yes, I bought one of the SW-3's - I've wanted one for a long time, but couldn't justify the typical asking price. This one is complete, and very restorable, and has one coil set ("61," 12-23 MHz). Bottom plate is quite rusty, but otherwise the cabinet has a few places with minor surface rust and missing paint. It uses the model using 2.5VAC tubes. The audio coupling unit looks good to my ohmmeter, but the voltage divider resistor has two open sections (no big deal). I'll be anxious to fire up this one! I was fortunate to have gotten this for $45. The AWA Museum and Annex visit on Wednesday night was as impressive and mind-blowing as my 1st visit 3 years ago. Just imagine OD'ing on old radio gear, and multiply the result by 100! There's no way I can describe it and come close to doing it justice, just make it a point to go there sometime. The James Millen (W1HRX) station in the Annex was up and running. This is James Millen's own homebrew AM transitter in 3 (yes, tree) six-foot racks, and his own HRO receiver. I called several CQ's on 3837 KHz, then 3885 KHz, on Wednesday night, but could not get anyone to answer. We were putting out 250W of carrier, and were heard over at the museum a mile away, at least (!). Just no one listening at the time who wanted to talk to us, I guess. I must have called CQ on and off for at least 20 minutes; very unusual not to get a response that time of day in this part of the country. Finally, and the best part, we had a great time hanging out with and talking radio with the following folks: Bob Raide, W2ZM Ed Gable, W2MP Bill Fizette, W2DGB Dave, KA2J, who gave us a tour or his beautiful shack (~4 miles or so >from the Conference) Tim W1GIG Jim KC1FB Bob WB2FOF Bob Mcteague Marty Reynolds, AA4RM Geoff Bourns Stu, W2AO Gary, WA4IAM Don, N9OO George Rancourt (can't remember George's callsign at the moment) Ken Owens This was the first time I had met Marty, Geoff, Don, Ken, and Stu, in person. I've worked Marty and Stu several times over the years, though, mostly in AWA events. I'm sure I'm leaving some folks out of the above list; I'm just having trouble remembering ALL the great conversations I've had with people over the past few days. What a vacation! 73, -Larry/NE1S Article: 321595 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Dana Subject: Re: Building a web page Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 11:09:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: I have a program that works under dos, that will do the trick. It is verry simple to use. If ya want that, just e-mail back. Article: 321596 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: More obscure radios. Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 17:12:30 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1125144491.962979.129520@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Gordon Richmond wrote: > Did some more Googling. If I can get the link to work, this page > depicts a radio that's darn near identical to the one I have. Sounds > like the last of its breed. > > http://www.historische-radios.info/firmen/aja/geraete01.htm You have read about the quality? "The parts of this 3-D export model made in 1962, a standard six-circuit super with FM receiver, are betraying Suebian (same like Scottish) thriftiness, especially the speakers" > > If read the German page correctly, the company existed from 1953 to > 1962, founded by Alfred Jentsch, hence the "AJ" part of the logo. Followed by "AJA-Electronic" since AJA bancrupted: The company "Grieshaber" in Wolfach captured the Jentsch radio manufacturing department in 1958. The radios was mostly exported. End of AJA in 1962. Kind Regards, Georg Article: 321597 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT, The Total score!!! References: <1124910763.134449.205110@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <8PcPe.2513$sw6.411@fed1read05> <1124978048.589597.3550@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 10:18:23 -0500 Bob in Phx wrote: > Thanks for the info... I knew there was something funny there!!! Just goes > to show how much I know!!! You're welcome. I just had to repair an intermittent (cracked solder joint) on a decade card in mine - so I just had them in one had - the manual in the other... and again marveled at their technology for the time they were designed (and their time bases are still among the best available to mortal people). I have a Startek mod where the plug-in bay used to be (well it's still there but the Startek bolts over it) - so my 5245L goes to 1024Mhz without plug-ins... Fan is a bit noisy - but for such an old beast - that counter still gives really good service. best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321598 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cameo_a@40networks.com Subject: posting 20050827 Message-ID: <43108610.rec.antiques.radio+phono@mail2> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 08:26:08 PDT "Really?" "What will happen if I say no?" I asked. "This wouldn't be the same 'inside guy' who used your story to snake one of my clients, would it?" "The reason you paid $12 million for her was because you thought she was ind ispensable," I said. "I don't see how that's changed. She's a lot more indis pensable than Allen Green. She's the only person who'll have been in both fi lms." Article: 321599 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Dana Subject: Re: Building a web page Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 11:43:41 -0400 Message-ID: References: I am a blind person, and used notepad and a dos editor to make a web page, but that was a long time ago. Enjoy reading about theese old radios. I do have a chair side back in the back room. On Thu, 18 Aug 2005, Phil Nelson wrote: > For a quick-'n-easy page, I like Phil B's advice about composing in Word and > saving as HTML. > > The resulting HTML is way more verbose than I like, but then I learned to > write HTML with Notepad back in the Stone Age. There are other caveats, but > don't get me started on why I'm still using WordPad after trying any number > of HTML editors. > > If you're not sure about your HTML coding, try http://validator.w3.org/ , > the free validation service of the World Wide Web Consortium (can you spell > "Berners-Lee"?). I am running my updated pages (no, the site update's not > ready) through that checker and finding all sorts of casual errors & typos. > Many minor boo-boos won't make a noticeable difference in how mainstream > browsers display your page, but it's nice to have *some* kind of check on > what you've coded. > > Regards, > > Phil "Alley Oop" Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > > Article: 321600 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Building a web page From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <94mNe.7434$Wi6.5988@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <6TROe.302367$xm3.129821@attbi_s21> Message-ID: <%g1Qe.311152$xm3.241031@attbi_s21> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 17:19:55 GMT In article , gtayman@gate.net says... > > Hi Gary..... yes there is someone else that has the booth... or several booths together... "Quack Medical Machines" ... interesting looking gadgets..... all nicely cleaned up and shining etc... John >When I was there, I saw something more interesting -- on the other side, >near the front, there were some other boxes, including some gizmos that >looked almost like a console radio, but were black and nickel -- and >appeared to be some sort of medical instruments. Don't know what they are, >and I'm not sure I want to know; they might keep me awake at night! > >Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> DO NOT BUY THEM OR YOU WILL BE VERY VERY VERY SORRY .... >> John k9uwa Article: 321601 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: found in ma's basement From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1124766349.900785.144210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFPe.67341$084.15139@attbi_s22> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 17:26:14 GMT In article , gtayman@gate.net says... > > Tar Box that has those caps in it... you will have a make a drawing of the guts... then warm that critter up in the wife's oven and pull the guts out... replacement is easy as the new parts are 1/10th the size of the old ones... reinstall and rewire etc... the bypass caps and coupling caps are for the most part in metal blocks.. sort of like the Philco Tar Blocks... but in this case I never tried to take one apart... I just install a small terminal strip where the old block is located and rewire with the new parts... resistor... don't remember now... figure ballpark 30-40 ohms and 40 watts... yes the 40 watts is a lot more than needed... and yes that way the resistor doesn't run so hot that it melts other parts that are close to it... I just fix the radio first... then hook up my non-osha approved line cord.... the one with bare gator clips on the ends... hook it to meter and a resistor and the line cord to radio... read current... read voltage drop across resistor... decide larger resistor or smaller resistor... after I am happy with selection then install it in radio and rewire linecord through it... John k9uwa >John, > >I've been following this thread with interest, since I recently picked up an >AK-60 myself. I've been told it works, but I have not yet applied power. A >friend told me the oil-filled caps seem to be okay in these (he has two >55's) but I'm still leery. I personally would rather replace them -- but I >have yet to decide how to install them. Bear in mind I have yet to flip it >over and look -- too busy typing messages and working on car radios. But >I'm listening. As for dropping the voltage, what size resistor are you >thinking of? > Article: 321602 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: More obscure radios. Message-ID: References: <1125144491.962979.129520@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 20:20:20 GMT Thank you for the enlightenment, Georg. So it is indeed an orphan. I can understand the reference to "thriftiness" in quality. To me, it's mostly evident in the cabinet and the trim, but it could well be that speakers and chassis components aren't up to the standard of its better-known rivals. Do German radios of this era use paper caps that will need to be replaced? Am I risking damage to it by playing it? It does in fact play quite nicely, other than having some noisy switch contacts. Gordon Richmond Article: 321603 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Hagman" Subject: Re: AWA Rochester Report Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 17:53:48 -0400 Message-ID: <11h1o7h82bt5j16@corp.supernews.com> References: <1125175887.320681.217810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> wrote in message news:1125175887.320681.217810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > Pardon my ignorance, but isn't the big A.W.A. conference in Rochester, > N.Y. early in September? They moved it to mid August to accommodate the school schedule of the RIT Conference Center (what the Marriott you remember became). It was the last straw- after the sixty dollar admission, dawn Wed. start, police state parking, etc- that finally drove me away after many years of attending the Conference. Of course, AWA reminds us EVERY SINGLE detail of the way the Conference is run is set in stone and it's SO rude to even suggest changing anything. "Most "serious collectors" are happy to take the week off", etc. John H. From adouglasatgis.net Tue Aug 30 11:06:03 EDT 2005 Article: 321604 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: AWA Rochester Report Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 18:41:47 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <1125175887.320681.217810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11h1o7h82bt5j16@corp.supernews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-702.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:321604 Hi, >I guess the big question is: how was it compared to previous years? I skipped the last two years, but it was smaller than three years ago. Despite shifting the boundary inward by one row, only half the flea-market spaces were filled. On the plus side, there was plenty of parking outside the barriers. The gatekeepers were not obnoxious at all, registration was easy, weather was perfect. However after a short flurry at dawn, sellers seemed to outnumber buyers in the aisles. I sold most of the stuff I brought, though I didn't find a buyer for a Hickok 1230 Cardmatic until we were finally leaving at 2PM Friday. Programming was good but sparse, with long intervals between. I understand that one major talk on Western Electric had to be cancelled between the preliminary and the final schedules. The contest displays were outstanding. I heard (from the president) that next year's meet will start a day later, on Thursday, so they are serious about making changes to improve attendance. In a fairly active members forum, I heard proposals to shrink the dead time between presentations, perhaps even to--horrors--OVERLAP them, as most professional societies do. I bent Geoff's ear later about restoring a central area as a lounge where attenders could meet casually instead of disappearing to their rooms in the long intervals between events. That space has been taken over by the indoor flea market--I mean Book Fair--in recent years. Others expressed concern at the almost total absence of anyone under forty. Apparently the town of Henrietta has just passed a new ordinance making it easier to allow non-members in without New York State requiring everyone to obtain a temporary business license. I understand that next year, first-time attenders will be allowed in free, as long as they join AWA for a year. It's a start. Alan Article: 321605 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <11g85o8c8pdgmca@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Caps worth saving? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 23:32:44 GMT I just started a conversion on a 48 Plymouth (Philco) radio. For this model I need to save the chassis, which means removing all of the components. I flipped it over and found it loaded with bumblebees -- and thought of you. For conversions I strip a lot of chassis's; of course if I service a radio, it gets recapped, so either way I pull out a lot of paper caps. If you want I can toss them into a box instead of the trash. When the box is full, you can have it for shipping. "GBrown" wrote in message news:UL-dnRcFJ4fZBJjeRVn-hw@gwi.net... > > David: > I restuff paper/wax caps. Would be happy to pay shipping on those. How > many do you have? > > -- > Regards, > Gary...WZ1M > "David Axt" wrote in message > news:11g85o8c8pdgmca@corp.supernews.com... >> >> I have a junk box full of old capacitors. I need to sort them and clear > out >> the box. What capacitors should I keep and what should I toss. >> >> For example I have: >> domino >> ceramic >> mustard >> orange drops >> blue drops >> chocolate drops >> paper and wax >> >> Thanks, >> David >> >> >> > > > Article: 321606 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: More obscure radios. Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 01:38:35 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1125144491.962979.129520@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Gordon Richmond wrote: > Thank you for the enlightenment, Georg. > > So it is indeed an orphan. > > I can understand the reference to "thriftiness" in quality. To me, > it's mostly evident in the cabinet and the trim, but it could well be > that speakers and chassis components aren't up to the standard of its > better-known rivals. Don't worry. It's looking nice, and if it works: OK for you. > Do German radios of this era use paper caps that will need to be > replaced? Am I risking damage to it by playing it? It does in fact > play quite nicely, other than having some noisy switch contacts. I've placed a picture on alt.binaries.pictures.radio to show you the most appalling "Wima Tropydur" caps. Those and all caps with brittled tops (wax or tar) are aspirants for replacement. Don't forget the electrolytics. If you have the circuit diagram and the specified voltages are correct you have some grace period, but do not leave the radio playing unattended. Kind Regards, Georg Article: 321607 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <%jlNe.8419$WD.2828@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1124567282.401908.79160@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124567808.310421.127670@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <777Qe.1204$4P5.20@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: seller says "I don't have a record to test..." Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 20:01:43 -0400 "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:777Qe.1204$4P5.20@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > , red for classical, and yellow for childrens. > > On the down side, 45's had the same limitation as the 78's -- only a few > minutes recording time. With LP's allowing for 25 minutes per side, the 45 > was obsolete before it was even introduced. But -- being singles, they were > less expensive than LP's, and with the rock 'n roll revolution the teenagers > immediately seized onto the 45rpm format. > > " I think you hit it on the head. Rock and Roll Top 40 was ideally delivered on 45 singles. What a profit maker! Pete Article: 321608 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1125175887.320681.217810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11h1o7h82bt5j16@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: AWA Rochester Report Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 01:05:25 GMT Oh Yea... was that THIS week? Can you tell how much I hated missing it? This is the first year I havent gone to the Conference since it was in Canandaguia in 1989. Basically for the reasons John stated below... the Flea market is turning into a pile of overpriced bleached bones and you can cut the attitude with a knife. Last springs very pleasant experience at Kutztown made Rochester Obsolete. Id love to attend the conference... but On Wednesday? No... I dont have vacation to spare. and I dont care to get up a 5AM anymore and... You get the idea. Keith > > Pardon my ignorance, but isn't the big A.W.A. conference in Rochester, > > N.Y. early in September? > > They moved it to mid August to accommodate the school schedule of the RIT > Conference Center (what the Marriott you remember became). It was the last > straw- after the sixty dollar admission, dawn Wed. start, police state > parking, etc- that finally drove me away after many years of attending the > Conference. Of course, AWA reminds us EVERY SINGLE detail of the way the > Conference is run is set in stone and it's SO rude to even suggest changing > anything. "Most "serious collectors" are happy to take the week off", etc. > > John H. > > Article: 321609 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1125175887.320681.217810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11h1o7h82bt5j16@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: AWA Rochester Report Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 01:26:06 GMT Im 38... and I was feeling like I was standing out last year~! 2 Years ago I tried to bring a teen freind with me who had shown an interest in antique radios from watching me do restorations in the winter. He actually did a full resto on an RCA K82. The AWA would let HIM in with me, but his dad who wanted to tag along and share his son's new interest was forced into the $$$ admission. And they wonder why there arent any younger people involved? I got started in this when I was 12, and it was the wonderful folk at the Schenectady antique radio club that really warmed me up to the hobby. I was the youngest person at the meeting, my father was the second youngest... but we were made feel welcome. This is what needs to be addressed by the AWA. At least there making a start... next thing is to DITCH the town of Henrietta! Keith Others expressed concern at the almost total absence of anyone > under forty. Apparently the town of Henrietta has just passed a new > ordinance making it easier to allow non-members in without New York > State requiring everyone to obtain a temporary business license. I > understand that next year, first-time attenders will be allowed in > free, as long as they join AWA for a year. It's a start. > > Alan Article: 321610 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: seller says "I don't have a record to test..." Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 19:32:27 -0600 Message-ID: References: <%jlNe.8419$WD.2828@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1124567282.401908.79160@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124567808.310421.127670@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <777Qe.1204$4P5.20@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:777Qe.1204$4P5.20@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > How much of the 45 rpm technology was collecting dust? I know Sarnoff > introduced the 45 directly to compete with Columbia's LP, but was it > sitting on the shelf already? > > RCA introduced the 45 as having the "latest hi-fi technology." It so > happens 45rpm is a good speed, but rumor has it the only reason it was > picked was because 33 + 45 = 78. thats funny. i never made the connection that the numbers added to 78. i cannot thing of any logical reason related to gearing the turntable that would make such a sum particularly desirable over other speeds which would seem to make more sense such as 33 times 2 or 78 divided by 2 that at least had a more 'clean' gearing conversion.. but just because i cannot think of one, dont mean there isnt. maybe there is one. ?? randy Article: 321611 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: norml Subject: Re: seller says "I don't have a record to test..." Message-ID: References: <%jlNe.8419$WD.2828@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1124567282.401908.79160@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124567808.310421.127670@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <777Qe.1204$4P5.20@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 01:51:32 GMT "xrongor" wrotf: >thats funny. i never made the connection that the numbers added to 78. i >cannot thing of any logical reason related to gearing the turntable that >would make such a sum particularly desirable over other speeds which would >seem to make more sense such as 33 times 2 or 78 divided by 2 that at least >had a more 'clean' gearing conversion.. > >but just because i cannot think of one, dont mean there isnt. maybe there >is one. ?? > No there isn't. Remember that "33" is actually 33 1/3 rpm. This speed is an accident of events from the creation of the Vitaphone disc-on-film sound system created for the movies by Western Electric in the late '20s. The speed of early disc recordings was not standardized. It varied all over the place. It was finally standardized at 78.26 rpm because this relates mathmatically to our 60hz powerline frequency. (That's why the standard strobe discs work.) I believe that 45 rpm is a relatively arbitrary choice by RCA engineers--a compromise between fidelity and playing time. In any event, the 33-45-78 story is just an urban legend. Norm Lehfeldt Article: 321612 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: seller says "I don't have a record to test..." Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 20:11:08 -0600 Message-ID: References: <%jlNe.8419$WD.2828@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1124567282.401908.79160@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1124567808.310421.127670@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <777Qe.1204$4P5.20@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> but a good one randy > In any event, the 33-45-78 story is just an urban legend. > > Norm Lehfeldt Article: 321613 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: found in ma's basement Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 22:10:07 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1124766349.900785.144210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFPe.67341$084.15139@attbi_s22> On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 12:58:54 GMT "Gary Tayman" wrote: >I've been following this thread with interest, since I recently picked up an >AK-60 myself. I've been told it works, but I have not yet applied power. A >friend told me the oil-filled caps seem to be okay in these (he has two >55's) but I'm still leery. I personally would rather replace them -- but I >have yet to decide how to install them. If these are soldered metal cans, then oil-filled caps of this construction almost never go bad. What makes you want to replace them? - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 321614 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" Subject: Digital interference Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 03:29:56 GMT I am experiencing a problem that I am sure must be incresingly common today - forms of interference/noise from digital devices. It usually manifests itself as a hum on certain stations, especially at the high end of the AM band. I get it on tube and transistor radios, AC or battery operation. It seems to not be a problem for the newer non-analog tuned sets though and I imagine that is what radiation tests are based on now. I have traced some sources as microwave ovens, a digitally-controlled conventional oven, cable TV box, etc. I have to guess that their processors run at a frequency that coincides or divides into one at or near that of the tuned station(s) and gets detected and mixed with the desired signal. Disconnecting the offending device stops the problem but is not practical for the rest of the household residents especially since I moved to an apartment, as the neighbors' appliances are now involved. Has anyone else had to deal with this? Found any practical solutions? Or is this the curse of us Luddites holding onto these relics? Ray Article: 321615 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "maggiemoo" Subject: Re: WTB: Centralab/IRC/Clarostat/Mallory Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 00:43:09 +0200 Message-ID: <5eb95b234726f82d119dd464356e4e25@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: we have Centralab, KB-1,2,3,4,ab-59,WL-8,R240, ww252, K155, PA1,PA33,PA9, and other parts also for Mallory parts and Clarostat switches and resistors all still in the boxes. 620-794-3904 Article: 321616 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1cc8b$43092a9a$4232bd3d$10116@COQUI.NET> <2497-430D0D98-128@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker Message-ID: <1mbQe.1638$mH.159@fed1read07> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 00:47:54 -0400 "Ken G." wrote in message news:2497-430D0D98-128@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... > 25. I don't have any fabric glue so I always use something else. If I > was stuck with only one single way to solve a simple problem I'd ..... Staple across the tear. 26. Pete Article: 321617 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 01:25:18 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker References: <1cc8b$43092a9a$4232bd3d$10116@COQUI.NET> <2497-430D0D98-128@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1mbQe.1638$mH.159@fed1read07> Message-ID: <37586$43114ac0$4232bd3f$32562@COQUI.NET> Uncle Peter wrote: > "Ken G." wrote in message > news:2497-430D0D98-128@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... > >>25. I don't have any fabric glue so I always use something else. If I >>was stuck with only one single way to solve a simple problem I'd ..... > > > > Staple across the tear. > > 26. > > Pete > > > Small rivets. 27. -Bill Article: 321618 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" Subject: FS - such a deal - yet again - magnetron and some batteries Message-ID: <1125211141.e69da516507116a2ebfce0b77319d757@teranews> Date: Sat, 27 Aug 2005 23:38:59 -0700 here's some items that may interest some of you 1. magnetron made by Warnecke electron tubes inc - green colored with external magnet,it's been around for a long time, but may actually be unused (it's dusty) - with some effort I think I could make out the type stamped in the aluminum sticker - RW 603, serial number W-012 (if that's a sequential number, they didn't make too many of these, it seems). 4.5 inches high, 3X3 inches wide/deep. I figure this is worth about $10, and can be shipped in a flat rate envelope for $4. 2. new phone batteries, Lithium Ion - 1000 MA - I figure these would be good for making rechargable battery packs for portable radios - I have 5 that go on the back of a phone, and two that look more like a pair of AA cells lying side by side with shrink wrap around them - and I have a "mobile rapid charger" (for Kyocera phones) that presulably can be used to charge these batteries. 3 are marked 4709 (don't know what they fit, look vaguely like Motorola - "Aud 1100???)), two are marked4586 (to fit qualcom 2200/TPE200), and the two that look like "regular" batteries are marked 4694 (Next I500) - the 4694 are 4.8V (I can't read the amp/hours on them, probably more), the 4586s are 3.6V as are the 4709 - $3 each, will ship one or all in a flat rate envelope ($4). - if you want them all, $15 plus postage contact me off the list per instructions below -- Bill to Email me, repair this address and use it: william_ b_ noble at msn dot com also check out http://www.wbnoble.com Article: 321619 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: paulSPAM@paulsherwin.co.uk (Paul Sherwin) Subject: Re: Digital interference Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 10:29:33 GMT Message-ID: <43119163.1476252@news.demon.co.uk> References: On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 03:29:56 GMT, "Rune" wrote: >I am experiencing a problem that I am sure must be incresingly common >today - forms of interference/noise from digital devices. > >It usually manifests itself as a hum on certain stations, especially at the >high end of the AM band. I get it on tube and transistor radios, AC or >battery operation. It seems to not be a problem for the newer non-analog >tuned sets though and I imagine that is what radiation tests are based on >now. There isn't much of a solution apart from moving the radio away from the radiation source. The problem will be worse in an apartment block, since not only are you surrounded by interference sources but the building will also screen a lot of the signal. Much of the interference comes from faulty or badly designed switch mode power supplies and compact flourcescent light bulbs. Good luck, Paul -- Paul Sherwin Consulting http://paulsherwin.co.uk Article: 321620 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: TRUCE! Message-ID: <8273h1pvnpgo4pbl86uskbmj7m6fg73qtl@4ax.com> References: <9Ludnc4omqFzj5LeRVn-hA@comcast.com> <1125084371.202865.187080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1125205374.527721.178560@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125211009.699829.240210@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 07:14:12 -0400 On 27 Aug 2005 23:36:49 -0700, "Steven" wrote: > >Jeffrey D Angus wrote: >> Pop-tard wrote: >> >> > POST THEM. >> > >> > This is a democracy, not a veiled threat. >> >> Ok Skippy, you asked for them, here they are in all their un-censored >> glory. >> >> 6 against, and only 1 for, and I suspect that was tongue-in- >> cheek. >> >> I'd gotten a few others, but did not include them as they >> had been deleted prior to this "call for votes." >> >> >> #1 >> >> > Okay, I'll bite. >> > I want Steve to go away. >> > I also want *all* posts about him or directed toward him to go away too. >> > >> > I have him killfiled. I don't have to deal with him unless I read posts like >> > this. >> > >> > Thanks for your attention >> >> #2 >> >> > I'd rather have another colonoscopy without being sedated, and endure >> > all those root canal operations without pain killers than see another >> > inane post from this bleeding idiot. >> >> #3 >> >> > I know we don't see eye to eye sometimes. Does my vote count? If >> > so....I choose the boot. >> >> #4 >> >> > I vote to keep him; >> > As long as he's here, people aren't ragging on *me*.... heh heh... >> >> #5 >> >> > Nope Dave is OK... Skippy should GO AWAY >> > this WILL BE my LAST post about and TO Skippy.... >> > After this..... its total silence to and about... suggest that >> > others do the same >> >> #6 >> >> > Out, out! Damn Skippy! >> > >> > With apologies to whoever wrote Shakespeare, >> >> #7 >> >> > Shit man, I banned Skippy from my inbox - eons ago. What >> > a fucking ass hole. He "tried" to convince me he was the >> > victim. What he convinced me of was of being a total dick. >> > >> > Truthfully, I don't know why "all" of you don't kill file >> > him and any new names he posts under - instead of answering >> > his drivel. Or is it "dribble" from all the side activities? >> > I kill file the stupid fuck as soon as I see anything from >> > him. The only way I see it then, is in reposts. Surely you >> > guys have more to do than to fuck around with a mindless >> > twit. I can see at first it may have been fun, but it is >> > boring now! Any insults hurled at him - go over his fucking >> > head. He's too fucking stupid to realize he's been insulted. >> >> >> Jeff >> >> >> -- >> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary >> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin >> "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." >> Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" > >OHHHHHH....I see. > >You said you had a "conference" with the others. > >But all you did was cut and paste parts of 8 posts, one of which was >from a long time back. I can find them too without any trouble. > I would not say that Steve. One one those is a legit email that I sent to Jeff. I can say that much. Article: 321621 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <9Ludnc4omqFzj5LeRVn-hA@comcast.com> <1125084371.202865.187080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1125205374.527721.178560@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125211009.699829.240210@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <8273h1pvnpgo4pbl86uskbmj7m6fg73qtl@4ax.com> Subject: Re: TRUCE! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 11:50:40 GMT How about MY vote? Mine is for both of you to stop! I'll say this one more time, and then I'll stop as well. STOP! All it takes is for either one of you to stop. If a third or fourth person chimes in, don't respond to them either. It takes two to fight. Both of you have contributed to this newsgroup. I'd like both of you to continue with the "legitimate" posts. But enough with the personal attacks. This is only serving to chase other people away. I'm certainly not a moderator, but at this point I feel like a daddy with a paddle. You! In that corner. You! In the other corner. If either of you turn around I'll whip you both! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Beerbarrel" wrote in message news:8273h1pvnpgo4pbl86uskbmj7m6fg73qtl@4ax.com... > On 27 Aug 2005 23:36:49 -0700, "Steven" wrote: > >> >>Jeffrey D Angus wrote: >>> Pop-tard wrote: >>> >>> > POST THEM. >>> > >>> > This is a democracy, not a veiled threat. >>> >>> Ok Skippy, you asked for them, here they are in all their un-censored >>> glory. >>> >>> 6 against, and only 1 for, and I suspect that was tongue-in- >>> cheek. >>> >>> I'd gotten a few others, but did not include them as they >>> had been deleted prior to this "call for votes." >>> >>> >>> #1 >>> >>> > Okay, I'll bite. >>> > I want Steve to go away. >>> > I also want *all* posts about him or directed toward him to go away >>> > too. >>> > >>> > I have him killfiled. I don't have to deal with him unless I read >>> > posts like >>> > this. >>> > >>> > Thanks for your attention >>> >>> #2 >>> >>> > I'd rather have another colonoscopy without being sedated, and >>> > endure >>> > all those root canal operations without pain killers than see another >>> > inane post from this bleeding idiot. >>> >>> #3 >>> >>> > I know we don't see eye to eye sometimes. Does my vote count? If >>> > so....I choose the boot. >>> >>> #4 >>> >>> > I vote to keep him; >>> > As long as he's here, people aren't ragging on *me*.... heh heh... >>> >>> #5 >>> >>> > Nope Dave is OK... Skippy should GO AWAY >>> > this WILL BE my LAST post about and TO Skippy.... >>> > After this..... its total silence to and about... suggest that >>> > others do the same >>> >>> #6 >>> >>> > Out, out! Damn Skippy! >>> > >>> > With apologies to whoever wrote Shakespeare, >>> >>> #7 >>> >>> > Shit man, I banned Skippy from my inbox - eons ago. What >>> > a fucking ass hole. He "tried" to convince me he was the >>> > victim. What he convinced me of was of being a total dick. >>> > >>> > Truthfully, I don't know why "all" of you don't kill file >>> > him and any new names he posts under - instead of answering >>> > his drivel. Or is it "dribble" from all the side activities? >>> > I kill file the stupid fuck as soon as I see anything from >>> > him. The only way I see it then, is in reposts. Surely you >>> > guys have more to do than to fuck around with a mindless >>> > twit. I can see at first it may have been fun, but it is >>> > boring now! Any insults hurled at him - go over his fucking >>> > head. He's too fucking stupid to realize he's been insulted. >>> >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> >>> -- >>> "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary >>> safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin >>> "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." >>> Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" >> >>OHHHHHH....I see. >> >>You said you had a "conference" with the others. >> >>But all you did was cut and paste parts of 8 posts, one of which was >>from a long time back. I can find them too without any trouble. >> > > > I would not say that Steve. One one those is a legit email that I sent > to Jeff. I can say that much. > > Article: 321622 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Hagman" Subject: Re: AWA Rochester Report Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 08:09:31 -0400 Message-ID: <11h3abtgujde5ba@corp.supernews.com> References: <1125175887.320681.217810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11h1o7h82bt5j16@corp.supernews.com> "Art's Antique Radios" wrote in message news:moSdnam9gpDSsozeRVn-pA@comcast.com... I cannot think of any major shows east of the > Mississippi in June. Kutztown PA (Sept. 16 & 17 and again May) is the only flea that matters. John H. Article: 321623 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: found in ma's basement From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1124766349.900785.144210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFPe.67341$084.15139@attbi_s22> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 12:14:19 GMT In article , jadney@vwtype3.org says... > > >If these are soldered metal cans, then oil-filled caps of this >construction almost never go bad. What makes you want to replace them? > > Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org See your comment above Jim .... its the "Almost" part that worries me... keep in mind that I restore old radios for the most part for NON Collector types... well some have pretty good collections... lets call them the "Technically Challenged" if you want to be politically correct.... basically people that don't know beans about the electronics.... if it breaks... I have to fix it... so for me I want to do the job once... and try to make the radio bulletproof .... its a totally different world than guys that are fixing up old radios for themselves.... if it breaks again... they can just open it up and fix the thing... After some 2000 radios we have rebuilt in the last 10-12 years... all warrantied for a year when they went out the door... we have had maybe 6 or 8 of them that developed problems... and most of those were long after the warranty period and I still fixed them for free as the item that fried was something I should have made sure it didn't happen... like power transformers where the rectifier tube was a 6X5 .... today a radio won't leave here with a 6x5 in it.... they get a pair of diodes in a junk tube base and an explanation of why they are there rather than a tube... John k9uwa Article: 321624 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1124766349.900785.144210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFPe.67341$084.15139@attbi_s22> Subject: Re: found in ma's basement Message-ID: <8%hQe.1355$4P5.395@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 12:21:24 GMT Okay, alright, it's time for a vote. I'll start this in a new thread. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Jim Adney" wrote in message news:kv72h1d9use5j5dqoept2q7bdbrhtd6a5l@4ax.com... > On Sat, 27 Aug 2005 12:58:54 GMT "Gary Tayman" > wrote: > >>I've been following this thread with interest, since I recently picked up >>an >>AK-60 myself. I've been told it works, but I have not yet applied power. >>A >>friend told me the oil-filled caps seem to be okay in these (he has two >>55's) but I'm still leery. I personally would rather replace them -- but >>I >>have yet to decide how to install them. > > If these are soldered metal cans, then oil-filled caps of this > construction almost never go bad. What makes you want to replace them? > > - > ----------------------------------------------- > Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org > Madison, WI 53711 USA > ----------------------------------------------- Article: 321625 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: AK-60, time for a vote Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 12:54:43 GMT >>I've been following this thread with interest, since I recently picked up >>an >>AK-60 myself. I've been told it works, but I have not yet applied power. >>A >>friend told me the oil-filled caps seem to be okay in these (he has two >>55's) but I'm still leery. I personally would rather replace them -- but >>I >>have yet to decide how to install them. > >If these are soldered metal cans, then oil-filled caps of this >construction almost never go bad. What makes you want to replace them? > Okay, time for a showdown. WWYD -- What would YOU do? You just brought home an Atwater-Kent model 60 radio, in beautiful original condition. You were told it spent part of its life in a museum. You were told it's working. You find a receipt. Purchased at Tayman Electrical on Minnesota Avenue in Washington, DC on November 7, 1928, by Vesuvius Al Smith. He had smashed his Silver Marshall beyond repair after hearing the election results. You bring the radio home and set it in your shop. You'd like to use it to listen to Rush Limbaugh, Dr. Laura, and Spanish salsa music while tinkering with other vintage electrons. What would you do? A: Plug it in, turn it on, and get out your castinets. B: Flip it over, disconnect each oil-filled cap and test it, and if all is well continue using them. C: Flip it over, disconnect each oil-filled cap and solder in a new cap underneath. D: Remove each cap (excuse me, condenser), remove its contents and stuff it with appropriate new caps. E: Do A, B, C, or D above, and add a fuse in the power transformer secondary. F: Do A, B, C, or D above, and add a fuse in the power transformer primary. G: In combination with any of the above, install a power resistor to drop the voltage to around 100v. H: Locate the Silver Marshall and sell it to Michael Moore for a prop in an upcoming History Channel documentary. I'd like to hear your (legitimate) answers. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 321626 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <9Ludnc4omqFzj5LeRVn-hA@comcast.com> <1125084371.202865.187080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1125205374.527721.178560@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125211009.699829.240210@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <8273h1pvnpgo4pbl86uskbmj7m6fg73qtl@4ax.com> <1125231552.544930.54630@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: TRUCE! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 12:57:42 GMT Regarding the Zenith, if it's a battery radio I wouldn't expect it to draw much current -- but it's easy enough to check. Just place an ammeter between the batteries and the radio itself, and measure it with the volume turned up. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Steven" wrote in message news:1125231552.544930.54630@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I haven't got too much of a problem with that, but I won't let things > just happen either. That started it in the first place. > > Now, I have a Zenith Royal 880 that uses 6 "C" cells only as far as I > can tell. If I add in a plug for a wall adapter, what amperage should I > use @ 9 volts? > > I hope you or some will tell me, or perhaps I should move it to a > thread somebody will actually read? > > Thank you. > Article: 321627 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: AK-60, time for a vote Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 09:39:20 -0400 "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:nuiQe.3495$z2.2332@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > >>I've been following this thread with interest, since I recently picked up > >>an > >>AK-60 myself. I've been told it works, but I have not yet applied power. > >>A > >>friend told me the oil-filled caps seem to be okay in these (he has two > >>55's) but I'm still leery. I personally would rather replace them -- but > >>I > >>have yet to decide how to install them. > > > >If these are soldered metal cans, then oil-filled caps of this > >construction almost never go bad. What makes you want to replace them? > > > > Okay, time for a showdown. WWYD -- What would YOU do? > > You just brought home an Atwater-Kent model 60 radio, in beautiful original > condition. You were told it spent part of its life in a museum. You were > told it's working. > > You find a receipt. Purchased at Tayman Electrical on Minnesota Avenue in > Washington, DC on November 7, 1928, by Vesuvius Al Smith. He had smashed > his Silver Marshall beyond repair after hearing the election results. > > You bring the radio home and set it in your shop. You'd like to use it to > listen to Rush Limbaugh, Dr. Laura, and Spanish salsa music while tinkering > with other vintage electrons. What would you do? > > What do you want to do with the radio??? Resell it to someone who will be using it daily? Or, keep it as a display piece in original, rare unmolested condition? First, oil filled caps fail like any other paper cap. Old military gear is full of oil filled bathtub caps that are leaky as hell. On the other hand, some if the early filter packs were paper, but have survived the ravages of time. Putting the set on a dim bulb tester or metered variable AC supply is the way to go. I'd say it depends on the radio and the materials used. Dropping AC line voltage: best way is an autotransformer. For something kept original, you could rig up an external box with the autotransformer, fuse, and an ICL for use on that, or other radios. Dropping resistors: those give off some extra heat that has to be planned for when installing the resistor. Again, you have to be careful here, some early AC sets used push-pull Class B audios, and the AC line voltage will vary with volume if a dropping resistor is used. Could cause FMing of the local oscillator and other nasties. . Pete Article: 321628 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Power Supply Plan Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 09:40:31 -0400 "Dave Grant" <4dmgrant@comcast.net> wrote in message news:UeadnQ9eB737xozeRVn-hg@comcast.com... > I would like to construct a power supply (battery eliminator) for a > Freed-Eisemann model NR-7 radio. The range of voltages are -27, -4.5, +4, > +22, +90 and +135. Where might I find an schematic/plan for such a power > supply? > > Dave Grant > How were you planning on supplying A voltages to that set??? Pete > Article: 321629 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1125236287.218002.168250@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: AK-60, time for a vote Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 13:44:56 GMT For what it's worth, my daily driver is a Knight. However I don't want it to be the only radio in use. I've got a Crosley Jewler's Radio on the shelf above my computer that I also play from time to time, and a Philco 54 that, once restored, will also get some air time. Once in operating condition, these radios indeed get some use. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Steven" wrote in message news:1125236287.218002.168250@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Turn it on once, check it out, place it on my shelf. My daily driver is > a Zenith circle of sound clock radio, and the AK is too much to worry > about if I break something, especially since I only have 3 tubed sets > working at the moment and one of them is touchy. Miniature tubes seem > to be dying of at a good clip or else the caps, and I need to buy more > or trade for them. > Article: 321630 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: AK-60, time for a vote Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 13:48:08 GMT Again, the radio is in the shop and will be used. Maybe not Salsa music, but I would indeed like to have it playing during the day. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:f8jQe.1659$mH.904@fed1read07... > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:nuiQe.3495$z2.2332@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> >>I've been following this thread with interest, since I recently picked > up >> >>an >> >>AK-60 myself. I've been told it works, but I have not yet applied > power. >> >>A >> >>friend told me the oil-filled caps seem to be okay in these (he has two >> >>55's) but I'm still leery. I personally would rather replace them -- > but >> >>I >> >>have yet to decide how to install them. >> > >> >If these are soldered metal cans, then oil-filled caps of this >> >construction almost never go bad. What makes you want to replace them? >> > >> >> Okay, time for a showdown. WWYD -- What would YOU do? >> >> You just brought home an Atwater-Kent model 60 radio, in beautiful > original >> condition. You were told it spent part of its life in a museum. You >> were >> told it's working. >> >> You find a receipt. Purchased at Tayman Electrical on Minnesota Avenue >> in >> Washington, DC on November 7, 1928, by Vesuvius Al Smith. He had smashed >> his Silver Marshall beyond repair after hearing the election results. >> >> You bring the radio home and set it in your shop. You'd like to use it >> to >> listen to Rush Limbaugh, Dr. Laura, and Spanish salsa music while > tinkering >> with other vintage electrons. What would you do? >> >> > > What do you want to do with the radio??? > > Resell it to someone who will be using it daily? > Or, keep it as a display piece in original, > rare unmolested condition? > > First, oil filled caps fail like any other paper cap. > Old military gear is full of oil filled bathtub caps > that are leaky as hell. On the other hand, some > if the early filter packs were paper, but have survived > the ravages of time. Putting the set on a dim bulb tester > or metered variable AC supply is the way to go. > I'd say it depends on the radio and the materials used. > > > Dropping AC line voltage: best way is an autotransformer. > For something kept original, you could rig up an external box > with the autotransformer, fuse, and an ICL for use on that, > or other radios. Dropping resistors: those give off some > extra heat that has to be planned for when installing the > resistor. Again, you have to be careful here, > some early AC sets used push-pull Class B audios, > and the AC line voltage will vary with volume if a > dropping resistor is used. Could cause FMing > of the local oscillator and other nasties. . > > Pete > > Article: 321631 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: AK-60, time for a vote Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 08:05:14 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:sgjQe.1371$4P5.498@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Again, the radio is in the shop and will be used. Maybe not Salsa music, > but I would indeed like to have it playing during the day. if you want a collectable, put it in a baggie. if you want a radio, fix it right and replace the caps. if you want a little of both, replace the caps in such a way that you can put it back the way it is now if required. my two cents. randy Article: 321632 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: AK-60, time for a vote Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 08:06:36 -0600 Message-ID: References: and put the fuse on it... randy Article: 321633 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 07:02:45 -0700 Message-ID: <12354-4311C405-67@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> References: <37586$43114ac0$4232bd3f$32562@COQUI.NET> >Small rivets. >27. > >-Bill Pop rivets? : - ) Bill(oc) Article: 321634 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: AK-60, time for a vote From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 14:24:49 GMT In article , radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM says... > > > >dropping resistor is used. Could cause FMing >of the local oscillator and other nasties. . > >Pete > > You know my opinion on the rest of it... on the drop resistor or use an auto transformer... sometimes I do it either way... on sets that draw up close to an amp or so... the auto transformer... is many times easier to do... thats a lotta heat and a lotta resistor to use them on a set like that.... 15 tuber philco comes to mind real quick here.. in your AK-60 there isn't any room under the deck to put a transformer in the chassis.... however there is a lot of room inside the back of the cabinet for a little transformer ... what to use for these little transformers?... Your local Surplus Electronics place will have all sorts of small transformers... all different voltages... control transformers for all sorts of stuff... all you need is one that gives you voltage and current you want to loose.... 18 volts at 1 amp... and 15 volts at one amp are very common ones... when I am in FL and need them I get them from Skycraft Orlando... up here I get them from Pembletons Electronics.. surplus junkshop usually they are 2 to 3 bucks each... Never noticed enough variation with a resistor Pete to cause any problems... on sets like a Sparton Equasonne I do use the Boost Buck transformer method ... that thing runs a pair of type 50 triodes... and usually we are actually running the radio on a souped up pair of Rusky 6L6's and adapters... so loosing a bunch of voltage helps out.... also those nasty Sparton 484 tubes... well they are simply 3 volt filament type 27 tubes ... so if you loose a little voltage then U can use 27's in the set... John k9uwa From adouglasatgis.net Tue Aug 30 11:06:10 EDT 2005 Article: 321635 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: found in ma's basement Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 10:06:47 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <1124766349.900785.144210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFPe.67341$084.15139@attbi_s22> <8%hQe.1355$4P5.395@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-444.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news3 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:321635 Hi, >>>friend told me the oil-filled caps seem to be okay in these (he has two >>>55's) but I'm still leery. I personally would rather replace them -- but >> >> If these are soldered metal cans, then oil-filled caps of this >> construction almost never go bad. What makes you want to replace them? They are not oil filled. There are no oil caps in home radios. Alan Article: 321636 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: TRUCE! Message-ID: <8bl3h1p83f08phcim0or3qagkc8v89f0b2@4ax.com> References: <9Ludnc4omqFzj5LeRVn-hA@comcast.com> <1125084371.202865.187080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1125205374.527721.178560@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125211009.699829.240210@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <8273h1pvnpgo4pbl86uskbmj7m6fg73qtl@4ax.com> <1125229105.171126.85950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 11:23:44 -0400 On 28 Aug 2005 04:38:25 -0700, "Steven" wrote: >Fine. While I have had issues with you also, I buried them a long time >ago also. This has been a matter of abusive treatment that he and other >have lumped on me since 2001, preceding you even. Apparently that >thought has been that I would just die or something. If I had not cared >at all about this group, or of course my rights or needs as a member of >the human race, it wouldn't have mattered to me. I decided there will >be a resolution to this, as I was a man too and that too is sad. Steve the only problem that I have with you is you go off of the deep end. You have to realize that you can't call people at home, work, church or where ever...About your only recourse is to file an ISP complaint. People, I think, get tired of the ramblings. That does not bother me. If you want to stay within the realms of this group then most folks will converse with you. If you have problems with the criticism then kill file those folks that give you problems. I don't normally kill file anybody. If folks want to kill file me, I don't care. Article: 321637 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: AK-60, time for a vote Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 09:26:39 -0600 Message-ID: <2501-4311D7AF-45@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: Plug it in and turn it on while watching things . The filters in those type sets are many times still good Article: 321638 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <1125175887.320681.217810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11h1o7h82bt5j16@corp.supernews.com> <11h3abtgujde5ba@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: AWA Rochester Report Message-ID: <8NlQe.5188$sw6.4336@fed1read05> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 09:39:25 -0700 Folks, I have no experience with the meets mentioned above. I do have to add, be thankful that you have meets at all. Phoenix AZ ( 5t largest city in the country) has only a handful (2 antique radio and 3 or 4 hamfests) per year. The pickings are slim here, as are the folks that are interested in old radios. The Phoenix meets are 1/2 day (if that) affairs that are well run, but very small (less then 25 sellers at the radio meets) In addition, the largest (although worst run, my opinion) tube seller in the country is less then 5 miles from me and there is very little if any interest here. With all the retired folks in PHX, you would think that the numbers would be larger, but alas they are not... Just my two cents worth!!!!! Bob in phx p.s. Hats off to the AARC (http://www.azarc.org/ ) for putting together the only meets in town!!!!! "John Hagman" wrote in message news:11h3abtgujde5ba@corp.supernews.com... > "Art's Antique Radios" wrote in message > news:moSdnam9gpDSsozeRVn-pA@comcast.com... > I cannot think of any major shows east of the >> Mississippi in June. > > Kutztown PA (Sept. 16 & 17 and again May) is the only flea that matters. > > John H. > > Article: 321639 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4311EA8F.6020909@spam.carolina.rr.com> From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: test Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 16:50:50 GMT test Article: 321640 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <1125175887.320681.217810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11h1o7h82bt5j16@corp.supernews.com> <11h3abtgujde5ba@corp.supernews.com> <8NlQe.5188$sw6.4336@fed1read05> <8WlQe.75301$es2.924654@twister.southeast.rr.com> Subject: Re: AWA Rochester Report Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 10:05:03 -0700 Ron, I like the idea... Ill think about it!!!!!!!!!! bob in phx "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:8WlQe.75301$es2.924654@twister.southeast.rr.com... > Bob in Phx wrote: >> . Phoenix AZ ( 5t largest city in the country) has only a handful (2 >> antique radio and 3 or 4 hamfests) per year. The pickings are slim here, >> as are the folks that are interested in old radios. > > Then why not start your own event? > It's not all that hard to do. I've been doing them > for more than 25 years. > Two things to do first. > Find a convenient location. Some place near the interstate, > with a large field or little used parking lot, or a local park > you can reserve. > Saturday mornings are best, don't plan on it lasting > more than about 4 hours or so. > Next check the calendar and get as far away as possible > form other local events, including ham fests. > Set the date, print up some fliers and pass them out at other > local events for at least 6 months before your event. > If you host it, they will come. > > Good Luck, > > Ron in Radio Heaven > > http://radioheaven.homestead.com > http://cloughbrengle.homestead.com > http://cc-awa.org > Article: 321641 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: AWA Rochester Report References: <1125175887.320681.217810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11h1o7h82bt5j16@corp.supernews.com> <11h3abtgujde5ba@corp.supernews.com> <8NlQe.5188$sw6.4336@fed1read05> <8WlQe.75301$es2.924654@twister.southeast.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:08:56 GMT Bob in Phx wrote: > Ron, I like the idea... Ill think about it!!!!!!!!!! > Bob, let me know if I can help in any way. Don't think about too long, just start working on it. A date set for spring of '06 would be good to have. Ron Article: 321642 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <1124910763.134449.205110@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <8PcPe.2513$sw6.411@fed1read05> <1124978048.589597.3550@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT, The Total score!!! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 10:14:11 -0700 is the mod still available??? or was it homebrew?? bob in phx.... "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message news:vt%Pe.10276$N1.8839@bignews4.bellsouth.net... > Bob in Phx wrote: > >> Thanks for the info... I knew there was something funny there!!! Just >> goes to show how much I know!!! > > You're welcome. I just had to repair an intermittent (cracked solder > joint) on a decade card in mine - so I just had them in one had - the > manual in the other... and again marveled at their technology for the > time they were designed (and their time bases are still among the best > available to mortal people). > > I have a Startek mod where the plug-in bay used to be (well it's still > there but the Startek bolts over it) - so my 5245L goes to 1024Mhz without > plug-ins... Fan is a bit noisy - but for such an old beast - that counter > still gives really good service. > > best regards... > -- > randy guttery > > A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews > so vital to the United States Silent Service: > http://tendertale.com Article: 321643 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: AK-60, time for a vote References: Message-ID: <9gmQe.325051$s54.238456@pd7tw2no> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:12:37 GMT Personally, I would carefully clean it up, frame the receipt, and put it on prominent display. Something that was sold in the past by your relatives doesn't come around every day. But based on your question, I would disconnect the caps and install new ones (leave the old ones in place so that a purist in the future can undo the changes), and install a fuse, probably on the primary side. PS: If I could find that silver marshall, I definately would NOT give it to michael moore. Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com > A: Plug it in, turn it on, and get out your castinets. > > B: Flip it over, disconnect each oil-filled cap and test it, and if all is > well continue using them. > > C: Flip it over, disconnect each oil-filled cap and solder in a new cap > underneath. > > D: Remove each cap (excuse me, condenser), remove its contents and stuff it > with appropriate new caps. > > E: Do A, B, C, or D above, and add a fuse in the power transformer > secondary. > > F: Do A, B, C, or D above, and add a fuse in the power transformer primary. > > G: In combination with any of the above, install a power resistor to drop > the voltage to around 100v. > > H: Locate the Silver Marshall and sell it to Michael Moore for a prop in an > upcoming History Channel documentary. > Article: 321644 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: TRUCE! References: <9Ludnc4omqFzj5LeRVn-hA@comcast.com> <1125084371.202865.187080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1125205374.527721.178560@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125211009.699829.240210@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1125227551.352152.220900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:18:32 GMT It's pointless. I give up. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321645 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <46WdnZ2dnZ28yNPRnZ2dnUttjN6dnZ2dRVn-052dnZ0@comcast.com> Subject: Re: AK-60, time for a vote Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 13:47:38 -0500 Message-ID: <431205da$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:46WdnZ2dnZ28yNPRnZ2dnUttjN6dnZ2dRVn-052dnZ0@comcast.com... >The other resistors are all wirewound and usually OK. Or, they're ALL open (as they were on the AK 60 I just did) and you get to replace them too. As for whether you recap, I guess that depends on the circumstances. If it belonged to me and worked as original, I'd just fuse it and forget it. If I were fixing it for a non-radio person who expected to use it daily I recap completely *and* fuse it (though why anyone would do this I have no clue; as radios I think they are somewhat less than wonderful. You never realize how important AVC is until you have a radio that doesn't have it.) paul Article: 321646 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <9gmQe.325051$s54.238456@pd7tw2no> Subject: Re: AK-60, time for a vote Message-ID: <87oQe.3654$z2.2393@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:19:32 GMT Sounds like someone fell for that part of the story. Yes there WAS a Tayman Electrical on Minnesota Avenue in DC during the 1920's, and I've even got a picture of it at http://home.gate.net/~gtayman/history.htm. I even tried my hand at coloring it, but never quite finished. The only artifact in this photo that I still have is a pair of headphones on the far right, on the counter -- nearly impossible to see but it's there in the original photo. I don't know if they ever met Al Smith, but Senator Everitt Dirksen was indeed a friend of the family, as was Arthur Godfrey. I recently DJ'ed at a car show, and put on "Thunder and Lightning" by Chi Coltrane. I made the comment that she 's Roscoe P. Coltrane's sister, and people believed me! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Shawn K" wrote in message news:9gmQe.325051$s54.238456@pd7tw2no... > Personally, I would carefully clean it up, frame the receipt, and put it > on prominent display. Something that was sold in the past by your > relatives doesn't come around every day. But based on your question, I > would disconnect the caps and install new ones (leave the old ones in > place so that a purist in the future can undo the changes), and install a > fuse, probably on the primary side. > > PS: If I could find that silver marshall, I definately would NOT give it > to michael moore. > > Shawn K > www.thisoldradio.com > > >> A: Plug it in, turn it on, and get out your castinets. >> >> B: Flip it over, disconnect each oil-filled cap and test it, and if all >> is well continue using them. >> >> C: Flip it over, disconnect each oil-filled cap and solder in a new cap >> underneath. >> >> D: Remove each cap (excuse me, condenser), remove its contents and stuff >> it with appropriate new caps. >> >> E: Do A, B, C, or D above, and add a fuse in the power transformer >> secondary. >> >> F: Do A, B, C, or D above, and add a fuse in the power transformer >> primary. >> >> G: In combination with any of the above, install a power resistor to >> drop the voltage to around 100v. >> >> H: Locate the Silver Marshall and sell it to Michael Moore for a prop in >> an upcoming History Channel documentary. >> Article: 321647 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: OT, The Total score!!! References: <1124910763.134449.205110@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <8PcPe.2513$sw6.411@fed1read05> <1124978048.589597.3550@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 14:30:59 -0500 Bob in Phx wrote: > is the mod still available??? or was it homebrew?? We don't know yet (more further down) and no it's a commercial product designed specifically for the 5245. There is a picture mine here: http://www.mississippi.net/~comcents/startek.jpg I've had mine for several years (5 I think)... it's worked very well. It's sensitivity isn't spectacular - but then the 5245 barefoot isn't either (that's why they built the video amp plug-in for it). Jeff contacted the factory over the weekend - and the person that responded thought they might still have a few - but wasn't sure - and was going to check Monday. IMHO Jeff oughta have first call on one if they have any - he was the first to ask me about it... best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321648 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <37586$43114ac0$4232bd3f$32562@COQUI.NET> <12354-4311C405-67@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 16:21:11 -0400 "Bill Sheppard" wrote in message news:12354-4311C405-67@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net... > >>Small rivets. >>27. >> >>-Bill > > Pop rivets? : - ) > > Bill(oc) Stick to nuts and bolts: rivets will rattle on the cone with age. :) Frank Article: 321649 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 16:48:50 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker References: <37586$43114ac0$4232bd3f$32562@COQUI.NET> <12354-4311C405-67@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Buck Frobisher wrote: > "Bill Sheppard" wrote in message > news:12354-4311C405-67@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net... > >>>Small rivets. >>>27. >>> >>>-Bill >> >>Pop rivets? : - ) >> >>Bill(oc) > > > Stick to nuts and bolts: rivets will rattle on the cone with age. :) > > Frank > > Lockwashers too, I guess? Why not just plate the cone with metal and solder it together? -Bill Article: 321650 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: AWA Rochester Report References: <1125175887.320681.217810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11h1o7h82bt5j16@corp.supernews.com> <11h3abtgujde5ba@corp.supernews.com> <8NlQe.5188$sw6.4336@fed1read05> <8WlQe.75301$es2.924654@twister.southeast.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:51:20 GMT Ron, would you also have to have liability insurance and permits from the city? Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > Bob in Phx wrote: > >> . Phoenix AZ ( 5t largest city in the country) has only a handful (2 >> antique radio and 3 or 4 hamfests) per year. The pickings are slim >> here, as are the folks that are interested in old radios. > > > Then why not start your own event? > It's not all that hard to do. I've been doing them > for more than 25 years. > Two things to do first. > Find a convenient location. Some place near the interstate, > with a large field or little used parking lot, or a local park > you can reserve. > Saturday mornings are best, don't plan on it lasting > more than about 4 hours or so. > Next check the calendar and get as far away as possible > form other local events, including ham fests. > Set the date, print up some fliers and pass them out at other > local events for at least 6 months before your event. > If you host it, they will come. > > Good Luck, > > Ron in Radio Heaven > > http://radioheaven.homestead.com > http://cloughbrengle.homestead.com > http://cc-awa.org > Article: 321651 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" Subject: fa: nice valve cutaway for display Message-ID: <1125263182.23a505d080faf5535e3515421038ca92@teranews> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 14:06:18 -0700 ok, this is mostly off topic I know, but I also know that a bunch of you folks, like me, like cool things for display purposes - here's one that I don't have room for -- bold plated cut-away poppet valve (display/teaching aid http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7542236533 yeah, I know, it's not a radio part, but it is a STEAM valve, and there was steam heat around those old radios, so I guess there is a very vague and tenuous connection. -- Bill to Email me, repair this address and use it: william_ b_ noble at msn dot com also check out http://www.wbnoble.com begin 666 s.gif M1TE&.#EA`0`!`)'_`/___P```,# P ```"'Y! $```(`+ `````!``$```(" $5 $`.P`` ` end Article: 321652 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <9Ludnc4omqFzj5LeRVn-hA@comcast.com> <1125084371.202865.187080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1125205374.527721.178560@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125211009.699829.240210@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1125227551.352152.220900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: TRUCE! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:11:44 -0400 "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:YdnQe.7039$HR5.2777@tornado.socal.rr.com... > It's pointless. I give up. > > Jeff > Jeff When you wrestle with a pig, you both get dirty. Only difference is the pig loves wallowing in the mud. Deny Skippy the attention he craves, and he will die and wither away. It's worth a shot. FWIW Pete Article: 321653 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: AWA Rochester Report References: <1125175887.320681.217810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11h1o7h82bt5j16@corp.supernews.com> <11h3abtgujde5ba@corp.supernews.com> <8NlQe.5188$sw6.4336@fed1read05> <8WlQe.75301$es2.924654@twister.southeast.rr.com> Message-ID: <_bqQe.108170$ll3.889710@twister.southeast.rr.com> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:41:14 GMT Lou deGonzague wrote: > Ron, would you also have to have liability insurance and permits from > the city? > I guess it depends on where you live. We've been hosting radio meets since 1979, we've never had a permit from any city. Our club has liability insurance, but only because it was required for AWA chapter status. Ron Article: 321654 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Hurricane Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:56:43 -0400 Maybe I missed it.... 14.325 USB Article: 321655 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Hurricane Message-ID: References: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:57:45 -0400 On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:56:43 -0400, Beerbarrel wrote: >Maybe I missed it.... > >14.325 USB Sorry wrong group.... Article: 321656 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: AK-60, time for a vote References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 22:06:21 GMT My advice: Before applying any power, Fuse the primary AND secondaries. Clean contacts and controls. Lube as needed. Look at EVERY solder joint- they do go bad, especially if the solder used wasn't the very best. Drop the B+ to 100 volts and crank it on. Monitor currents on the B+ buss to catch any shorted bypasses. Check the tube grids for + volts to catch any leaky couplers. Look for hot resistors (bad bypass caps, usually). Replace only that which proves bad or looks suspect. If it runs OK at this voltage and nothing is getting hot or blowing fuses, enjoy. Article: 321657 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: If you were living in New Orleans right now, which radio(s) would Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 14:50:55 -0700 Message-ID: First of all, let me say that if you really ARE from New Orleans, you are in my prayers, and I hope you're reading this post in some place other than New Orleans right now.......... Now, picture the following scenario: You are living in the city of New Orleans, with the same radio collection you possess right now. A category 5 hurricane with 175 mile an hour winds is poised to slam into your city, which is already 13 feet underwater on the calmest day. You know that you will have to evacuate and there is an excellent chance that the flooding and fast moving water that will happen will make the recovery of every possession you leave behind virtually impossible, or at least highly doubtful. You have enough room in your vehicle to accomodate every living thing in your house and the items needed to clothe them and feed them, and the priceless family heirlooms as well. Once you get all those loaded up, you find that there's enough room left over to bring one, or maybe even two radios from your collection with you....... So, which radio(s) would you bring, and why? -Scott P.S. Lest anyone think I'm being jovial, I'm not. I'm not making light of this at all....This is a serious question, one that any one of us might have to face if we were staring into our region's version of the shit-storm of the century, as residents in many parts of LA are facing right now. Article: 321658 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Hurricane References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:41:53 -0500 Beerbarrel wrote: > Maybe I missed it.... > > 14.325 USB We're hoping (no, praying) it misses us... but that chance is getting awful slim every minute that passes... Dennis passed about 30-35 miles east of us, and did very little damage. Looks like this one - which is WAY more powerful a storm - is headed about 30 miles west of us - putting us on the east "high wind" side... Usually being 135 miles from the coast lets storms pretty much "blow out" by the time they get here. This time they're predicting that Katrina may well still be a Category 1 hurricane going by (depending on the storm's actual track, etc.)... And that's "nothing" compared to what the Big Easy is facing (185 miles ssw from us)... D&RFC for real... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321659 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: If you were living in New Orleans right now, which radio(s) would References: Message-ID: <3crQe.326521$s54.115668@pd7tw2no> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 22:49:35 GMT Well, hard question, no easy answer. Getting my family out would be my biggest priority, everything else can be replaced. But if I had to choose, I would take both of my military transoceanics. Can use them for news and moral support, which is what they were originally designed for in the first place :) Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Scott W. Harvey wrote: > First of all, let me say that if you really ARE from New Orleans, you > are in my prayers, and I hope you're reading this post in some place > other than New Orleans right now.......... > > Now, picture the following scenario: > > You are living in the city of New Orleans, with the same radio > collection you possess right now. A category 5 hurricane with 175 mile > an hour winds is poised to slam into your city, which is already 13 feet > underwater on the calmest day. You know that you will have to evacuate > and there is an excellent chance that the flooding and fast moving water > that will happen will make the recovery of every possession you leave > behind virtually impossible, or at least highly doubtful. > > You have enough room in your vehicle to accomodate every living thing in > your house and the items needed to clothe them and feed them, and the > priceless family heirlooms as well. Once you get all those loaded up, > you find that there's enough room left over to bring one, or maybe even > two radios from your collection with you....... > > So, which radio(s) would you bring, and why? > > > -Scott > > P.S. Lest anyone think I'm being jovial, I'm not. I'm not making light > of this at all....This is a serious question, one that any one of us > might have to face if we were staring into our region's version of the > shit-storm of the century, as residents in many parts of LA are facing > right now. > > -- Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Article: 321660 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: If you were living in New Orleans right now, which radio(s) would References: Message-ID: <4ArQe.12876$wb5.2436@bignews1.bellsouth.net> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:16:52 -0500 Scott W. Harvey wrote: None. I'd put something more valuable - like maybe another person that hasn't got a car - or someone's pet they may not have room for. Stuff is stuff. It's replaceable; and if not - so be it. > P.S. Lest anyone think I'm being jovial, I'm not. I'm not making light > of this at all....This is a serious question, one that any one of us > might have to face if we were staring into our region's version of the > shit-storm of the century, as residents in many parts of LA are facing > right now. No, not at all -- it's something even here we have to make judgment calls now - because once it gets here - you better already have done what you needed to do. Believe me - as I just noted in another post - even at 185 north of New Orleans - we're taking this VERY seriously. I have two pecan trees in my yard - one has major limbs over the garage- the other has one of two major limbs reaching over the center of the house. The trees have one of the largest crops of pecans in memory this year- they're just loaded with nuts. If you know anything about pecan trees - you know the problem. They break very easily anyway - and when loaded this heavy -- wind isn't your friend. Add the weight of rain to the leaves and then add nasty wind--- We're expecting at least one major limb down - and several smaller ones. A small limb a few years ago that did a bit of damage to the roof - weighed approximately 1400 pounds - and as noted - it was relatively small- no where near the size of the "main" ones. We have already moved many things away from the most threatened areas, cleared upper shelves of the bookcases, etc.; and have a pile of packages of plastic sheeting - and some 30X40 foot tarps ready to go in place quickly. The reason for clearing the top of everything is so plastic sheeting can be put over any of the furniture quickly without worrying about knocking things off. The chain saw has just been checked, spare gas mixed, etc. Battery supply checked (fortunately I just "topped off" the D cell and AA cell supply last week). Food for a week in place; batteries cycle checked in all of the UPSs; irreplaceable (pictures, etc.) already packed in suitcases. Both cars checked, plenty of gas, etc. Now to the radios- IF there were any chance here of flooding (such as being faced in N.O. - I'd bag the radios- including the consoles; big speaker cabinets, etc. Wrapped in plastic, sealed with good packing tape. Smaller radios would be taken to the attic; (room for about 100+ up there) consoles and boatanchors put on tables, work benches, etc. to get them above minor flooding - and hopefully to allow them to float should it get that deep. Fortunately - we're about 40 feet above the 100 year flood plain - and only 1/4 mile from the main drainage creek that runs through town - (which is at the 100 year elevation in this area itself). We've been here nearly 20 years - have seen the Sowashee out of it's banks a time or two - but never over the "next level" rise between here and there. Then this house itself is 30 inches off the ground; and I've never seen water around it higher than a couple inches in the worst down-pours. So flooding isn't our worst worry here - it's wind / flying / falling objects. The windows are all double layered - outside lexan storm window; then the inner glass window. Certainly not bullet proof, but capable of withstanding some pretty nasty blows. So. If we have to "leave" the only radio we'll take is the one in the car -- and keep in mind - hurricane winds are nasty - but often tornados that spin out of them are far worse - so we still may have to "run for it" were one of those spotted headed our way... Hunkered down and praying for the best... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321661 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <4310d5cb$0$22949$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net> Subject: Re: ISO Schematic for Philips 343A Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 00:57:49 GMT Martin, It is like the British model, newer and bakelite. Where manufactured? I am not sure. But it appears to be for the English speaking British market. Paul. "Martin" wrote in message news:4310d5cb$0$22949$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net... > > "Paul P" wrote in message > news:xauPe.674576$cg1.348053@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >>I am in search of a schematic and alignment info for a Philips 343A Table >> Top radio. It runs on 200 -240 vac at 50 hz. My hope is to restore this >> radio and get it to run on American power. >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Paul P. >> paul at (remove) ppinyot dot com >> >> > Is it the 1935 model shown here > http://www.datastress.com/~mario/radio/types.php?group=300 > or a 1950s model like a British 341A,with rimlocks (ECH42 etc.) > http://www.vintage-radio.com/manufacturers-and-sets/philips.shtml > and where was it made? > Martin. > Article: 321662 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "DumpsterDiver" References: Subject: Re: AK-60, time for a vote Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:08:43 GMT None of the above for me. Here's what I typically do: 1. Remove all tubes except the rectifier. 2. Clip the B+ line at the rectifier socket and temporarily insert a precision resistor (0.1 Ohm is a good value) using alligator clipped patch cords. 3. Hook up a good millivolt meter across the resistor. 4. Hook up another voltmeter to the B+ at the rectifier socket. 5. Hook up the power cord to a "Variac" through a 1.5 A fuse). 6. Slowly bring up the Variac while monitoring the B+ voltage and current. Keep an eye on the ratio of the current to the voltage as you crank it up. If you start to see an major increase in this number, stop increasing the Variac and watch how the current trends over an hour or two. If it continues to increase, STOP .... you're likely heading for a filter condenser breakdown. At this point you can back off the Variac and try to coax the filters to give up their moisture or whatever at reduced voltage, or you can just give up and replace 'em. 7. If you get the B+ up to around the full normal operating voltage (I'm guessing maybe around 250 VDC) without drawing excessive current (say 40 mA or so ... sorry, I don't have the detailed service data for the AK 60), you can go ahead and use the power supply as is, though you really should install a 125 mA fast-blow fuse in the B+ line right off the rectifier filament. 8. Once you have the power supply in stable operation, pop in the rest of the tubes, bring up the Variac to 120 VAC and go about checking the rest of the set for proper operation. 9. When you're all done, add a 1 Amp slow-blow fuse and a 3-prong (grounded) power cord in the primary circuit of the power transformer. May sound like overkill, but the brittle insulation on those old wires can crack real easy and make the metal case go hot. 10. Adding a dropping resistor in the power transformer primary circuit sounds like a nice idea, as it ought to extend the life of the tubes and maybe some other components by running them slightly cooler. I have never done this, but maybe I will. Maybe add a rheostat or slidewire to facilitate cranking up the voltage to compensate for ageing tubes? After all, that's how they controlled the volume on those old battery sets, no? DD ============================================================================ ================================== Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:nuiQe.3495$z2.2332@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > >>I've been following this thread with interest, since I recently picked up > >>an > >>AK-60 myself. I've been told it works, but I have not yet applied power. > >>A > >>friend told me the oil-filled caps seem to be okay in these (he has two > >>55's) but I'm still leery. I personally would rather replace them -- but > >>I > >>have yet to decide how to install them. > > > >If these are soldered metal cans, then oil-filled caps of this > >construction almost never go bad. What makes you want to replace them? > > > > Okay, time for a showdown. WWYD -- What would YOU do? > > You just brought home an Atwater-Kent model 60 radio, in beautiful original > condition. You were told it spent part of its life in a museum. You were > told it's working. > > You find a receipt. Purchased at Tayman Electrical on Minnesota Avenue in > Washington, DC on November 7, 1928, by Vesuvius Al Smith. He had smashed > his Silver Marshall beyond repair after hearing the election results. > > You bring the radio home and set it in your shop. You'd like to use it to > listen to Rush Limbaugh, Dr. Laura, and Spanish salsa music while tinkering > with other vintage electrons. What would you do? > > A: Plug it in, turn it on, and get out your castinets. > > B: Flip it over, disconnect each oil-filled cap and test it, and if all is > well continue using them. > > C: Flip it over, disconnect each oil-filled cap and solder in a new cap > underneath. > > D: Remove each cap (excuse me, condenser), remove its contents and stuff it > with appropriate new caps. > > E: Do A, B, C, or D above, and add a fuse in the power transformer > secondary. > > F: Do A, B, C, or D above, and add a fuse in the power transformer primary. > > G: In combination with any of the above, install a power resistor to drop > the voltage to around 100v. > > H: Locate the Silver Marshall and sell it to Michael Moore for a prop in an > upcoming History Channel documentary. > > I'd like to hear your (legitimate) answers. > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > Article: 321663 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 21:27:58 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker References: <37586$43114ac0$4232bd3f$32562@COQUI.NET> <12354-4311C405-67@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <24b12$431264a0$4232bde9$16932@COQUI.NET> Bruce Mercer wrote: > > Now you all just want to complicate things and have overlooked the > obvious.......a big wad of chewing gum. > > Bruce > #?? Are we there yet? > > Bruce We're sure trying. Its probably obvious to everybody that one fix doesn't always fit everything. We are trying to address everything from little 4" table radios with dried out cones so brittle they crumble if you breathe on them to big audiohawg 200 watt modern speakers. OP didn't specify which he was referring to. -Bill will continue to te tryi8ng > > Article: 321664 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Hurricane Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 18:59:49 -0700 Message-ID: References: John Stone wrote: > I just heard on CNN that oil futures are now past $70 a barrel. Talk about > wide ranging impact! Sad to say, this one looks really bad. > We are going to get screwed in so many ways because of this that it is hard to tell at this point who's going to screw us the most...... I see $3.00 per gallon in our collective futures very soon. It's high time that our president gets some cojones and opens the spigot. I'll bet it doesn't happen though. -Scott Article: 321665 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 22:24:39 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Hurricane References: Message-ID: Scott W. Harvey wrote: > > It's high time that our president gets some cojones and opens the > spigot. I'll bet it doesn't happen though. > > -Scott You mean they've been hiding a spigot? There's gonna be a long line there! You're right. Bet it doesn't happen. -Bill Article: 321666 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: If you were living in New Orleans right now, which radio(s) would you take? Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:29:28 -0600 Message-ID: References: ive had a YB305 in my car for a few years. use it for a fishing radio. picks up stations real good where other radios fall flat. i expect the 400 is even better. randy > The Grundig YB400 in the glove compartment (AM/FW/SW, battery powered). > > My Grandma's cheap plastic kitchen radio could ride on my lap -- the only > one with real sentimental value. > > Joan Fontaine's leather TransOceanic in the trunk. > > If there's extra room (ha ha), the Hallicrafters SX-88. > > Best wishes to everyone living in that area. My wife's brother's family > lives in Tampa and they tend to adopt a ho-hum attitude toward storms. But > there's nothing funny about it if you're the one whose house & possessions > are destroyed. > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > Article: 321667 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: If you were living in New Orleans right now, which radio(s) would References: Message-ID: <6puQe.3075$Wd7.2371@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 02:28:18 GMT We're concentrating on New Orleans, but folks from Mobile to Gulfport to Lake Charles are about to get hammered, not to mention the flooding all the way up into the Ohio Valley. This ain't gonna be pretty. If you're in Mississippi, I'd put my radios in your bass boat so they have a chance of floating. Article: 321668 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <9Ludnc4omqFzj5LeRVn-hA@comcast.com> <1125084371.202865.187080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1125205374.527721.178560@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125211009.699829.240210@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1125227551.352152.220900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125274069.317165.257850@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: TRUCE! Message-ID: <_OuQe.1762$4P5.1607@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 02:55:54 GMT After reading all of this thread, and particularly Peter's message, my recommendations are still the same. First off, I'm not trying to put ANYBODY down, including Skippy. If he indeed has a mental problem, remember -- but for the grace of God, there goes you or I. Whether it is cyclical, or related to medication, or just having a good or bad day, some of his messages are rants and some of them are worthwhile. What really bothers me is when Skippy posts a message that, if sent by anyone else would be considered legitimate, and someone responds with a nasty insult just because it's Skippy that wrote it. Or, posting jokes or insults at his expense. If someone were to post such a response to me, my first instinct -- without any medication or history -- would be to post a message saying, "well screw you too!" I know better than to post such a message, only because it prolongs the flaming thread. I've been making the recommendation to Skippy -- if you get such an insult, don't respond. The insults will eventually go away. As for others, if you don't want Skippy to post a bunch of rants and insults, don't provoke him to do it. If he posts a message that sounds like a rant, simply don't respond. If, by whatever mental capacity, he must post messages to get attention, and you're upset because he does this, DON'T RESPOND and he'll have to go elsewhere. Remember it takes two to keep an argument going. If you don't like what Skippy is posting, put the blame on whoever it is that's provoking him. Then again, when he involves himself in legitimate conversation, by all means he's welcome. I've got nothing against Skippy or anyone else here, but I do have a problem with the flames that erupt -- that ultimately get blamed on Skippy because he "can't help it." Those who CAN help it need to do their part. I'm almost sorry I started this thread, as I don't feel I'm getting anywhere with anyone. Maybe we ALL need medication . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1125274069.317165.257850@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Pete: > > Skippy is that worst form of pond slime that if it does not get the > nutrients it needs will increase its activities until such appears. I > am generally a pretty gentle person, so for me to describe an > individual as a "waste of air", that does not happen without > considerable thought. Let's go over what we know of Skippy based only > on the -facts- as he has provided. I place the - around this assertion > as his reliability is questionable at best. > > He is bipolar. > His father operated or was employed by a gasoline station at least at > some stage in his career. > He is on welfare, or some form of public assistance. > > So: what may we legitimately conclude from the above facts in a vacuum > assuming them to be 100% true? > > 1. Skippy requires medication in order to function in 'polite society'. > > a) This is not as easy as it sounds . > b) Medication options vary from patient to patient, some patients > simply do not respond well to the typical meds. > c) For _ANY_ Medication regime to be successful the patient must > be committed to its success. > d) Many patients do not feel "well" on medication. First, during > the MANIC stages, they feel on top of the world. > e) During the depressive stages, they often self-medicate.... > alcohol or worse. > > 2. Bipolar individuals have something of a "god complex" when in the > manic stages. They know better, have more experience, better > insights... you get the picture.... than the hoi poloi. > > 3. In the depressive stages (Skippy has demonstrated this over and > over), they tend to be paranoic, believe that the entire world is > against them (and for no reason), and tend to react irrationally to any > perceived threat. > > 4. One of the several -possible- side-effects of Bipolar Disease (and > it IS a disease) is OCD (Obsessive compulsive disorder), displayed most > often in the manic stages but will also manifest during the transition. > When overcome by such, a bipolar individual will engage in > inappropriate behavior whatever the external conditions, often > accelerating said behavior as required to achieve the result > -expected-. > > 5. Expected.... meaning that behavior that reinforces the necessity and > justification for the original behavior... thereby forgiving the > disease individual the need of doing anything about it. > > How many of you know damaged individuals who somehow overcome their > disabilities and get on with life? I know quite a few, as it happens. > Skippy is clearly capable of far more than he has achieved. However, he > has found a way to slide through life without any responsibility for > either his own conditions, health, survival, or activities. He > *appears* to have been raised better than that, so he is thereby > required to develop a justification for the fact that he is a > "net-negative" on society and at the same time allow himself the > ability to live with himself. This is a very well-defended construct > that is both functional and operational well beyond Skippy's vicarious > virtual life. > > Skippy comes here to prove to himself that he is quite normal and quite > able to lead a normal life. His entire self-image requires that he be > successful at it. Consider the analogy of the kid in Mom's shopping > cart in the supermarket. He/she grabs at anything he might want. _ANY_ > successful grab at all means that the behavior will continue > more-or-less forever. In the case of Skippy, any answer to any of his > drivel, even a discussion of same means that he is "normal" and part of > a "normal" community. Skippy has achieved that status here... in his > perception. The OCD part of his profile will not permit him to believe > otherwise. He is here to stay unless and until we can get his ISP to > drop him. It ain't nohow gonna change... the nature of the beast. > > So, to eliminate Skippy, we must 100% of the time report _ANY_ > inappropriate activities to his ISP. And link such to his previous > activities and the reactions of his previous ISPs. > > Or, we treat him like the village idiot (with apologies to all village > idiots elsewhere). Skippy is a tick, not an idiot... he does have his > position in life very carefully crafted so as to incur the minimum of > activity, accountability and effort on his part... But as an idiot, he > might be perceived as a sympathy icon. But as a tick, about any > response is justified. Just be sure that he will not "Go Away". It is > not in his nature... and that is not a function of his disease but of > his personality... marginal at best. > > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 321669 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:04:12 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: TRUCE! References: <9Ludnc4omqFzj5LeRVn-hA@comcast.com> <1125084371.202865.187080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1125205374.527721.178560@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125211009.699829.240210@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1125227551.352152.220900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125274069.317165.257850@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <_OuQe.1762$4P5.1607@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <3dcad$43127b2e$4232bde9$28332@COQUI.NET> Gary Tayman wrote: > What really bothers me is when Skippy posts a message that, if sent by > anyone else would be considered legitimate, and someone responds with a > nasty insult just because it's Skippy that wrote it. Gary, now that you have become his most recent "buddy" come back in a coupla months after he targets you with rambling emails and phone calls. You're going into my killfile too for supporting his behaviour and prolonging his presence here. -Bill Article: 321670 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg) Subject: Re: Adding a DC adaptor (wall wart) to a battery only(?) Zenith Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 19:52:06 -0700 Message-ID: <9521-43127856-611@storefull-3154.bay.webtv.net> References: <1125232452.558209.137990@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> If it is the model I am thinking about with the pop-up handle on top it is an early collectable model and I would not recommend altering the set. If that is the set, batteries should last a couple hundred hours. Article: 321671 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Hurricane Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:07:55 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1125274539.011910.176360@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > As they say, "Don't mess with Mother Nature". > > New Orleans would be about 60 miles off-river were it not for the > levees. However, the Army Corps of Engineers has prevented the natural > movement of the Mississippi.... My one enduring memory of my one visit to New Orleans was walking down a bone-dry street and seeing a giant ship floating in the water ABOVE me! It's an amazing and weird bit of civil engineering, sadly not hurricane proof. > > Eventually it will go where it was "meant" to go. The only question is > as to when and how many lives are lost and how much damage is done in > the process. Sadly. One thing that's probably going to come out of all this is better evacuation planning. The notion of putting thousands of people in a dome without dependable sources of running water, power or climate control is a bit daffy. Also, there is said to be at least 75,000 physically challenged people in the NO area who are unaccounted for. I sure hope they somehow made it out of harms way. > > Just keep in mind, ladies and gentlemen, that any FEMA pay-outs to the > victims of Katrina (and storms future and past) are at taxpayers' > expense. About 40% of all Federal flood insurance payouts are also from > the Taxpayer (and rising). So, keep this in mind when you drive by the > $1,000,000+ houses on the ocean-front from Florida through Cape Cod.... > each and every one covered by Federal Flood Insurance. Those homeowners may be in for a rude awakening. If experiences in California are any guide, the insurance payouts often don't even begin to cover the actual losses. And, the feds are under NO obligation to provide coverage in the future. (ask any Californian who lives in a flood plain or coastal area). FEMA's primary form of financial relief is low-interest loans, and they have been quite stingy with those of late. Bottom line: Many people who own homes that are destroyed in this thing are not going to be able to afford to rebuild. About the only bright spot for people caught up in this is that bankruptcy under the old rules is still possible until October, so at least some of the hard-luck cases have that option and can start over. Those who have the need to file afterwards will be indebted to the man forever, no matter what their circumstances (Thank you Bush, Congress, and MBNA for producing the best bad legislation that money can buy). One other thing to keep in mind: The National Guard troops available to handle this kind of thing are not as plentiful as they once were. I will let you draw your own conclusions as to why this is so. -Scott From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Tue Aug 30 11:06:18 EDT 2005 Article: 321672 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker References: <37586$43114ac0$4232bd3f$32562@COQUI.NET> <12354-4311C405-67@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 14 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 03:38:52 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1125286732 66.65.49.245 (Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:38:52 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:38:52 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:321672 In article , Bruce Mercer wrote: > Now you all just want to complicate things and have overlooked the > obvious.......a big wad of chewing gum. Nahh.....fresh nose-pickin's. Those stick to anything. EUWWW -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 321673 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <0es4h1l4dilhpmki6fvnmamiftl681f27f@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Crosley D-25 with clearcoat Message-ID: Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:26:51 -0400 "philsvintageradios" wrote in message news:0es4h1l4dilhpmki6fvnmamiftl681f27f@4ax.com... >I have been trying to repaint my crosley D-25 > I had the acrylic enamal mixed and sprayed it on , took a few tries to > get that done right .. then I got some two part clearcoat and put > that overtop. I wondered if it would be compatible, but it seemed to > work fine. The clearcoat comes out really shiny but I couldn't get it > to flow out and I didn't have the reducer so I sanded it down with 600 > , then 1200 , then plastic polish. > > I posted a pic on alt.binaries.pictures.radio > > > Phil Looks gorgeous, Phil. The colour came out stunning. Did you have to do any reston to the brass rings? Looked at the ones on mine, hmmm. -- "Stay strong. Be brave. Wait for the signs." Regards, Frank Johansen Aurora, Ontario Article: 321674 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Hurricane Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 20:27:22 -0700 Message-ID: References: -ex- wrote: > Scott W. Harvey wrote: > > >> >> It's high time that our president gets some cojones and opens the >> spigot. I'll bet it doesn't happen though. >> >> -Scott > > > You mean they've been hiding a spigot? There's gonna be a long line there! > You're right. Bet it doesn't happen. Actually, there are two "spigots".....One is in Texas and contains somewhere around 225 million barrels of oil. Our pontiffs on the potomac could open this one up and tell the oil futures speculators to suck wind....they would be perfectly justified in doing so given the economic bumps this thing is likely to cause (how often does a President declare someplace a disaster area BEFORE it actually happens?) The other "spigot" is located in Louisiana, and has somewhere around 150 million barrels. No way THAT one will be tapped in response to this crisis, for obvious reasons. :-) -Scott Article: 321675 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:48:21 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Hurricane References: Message-ID: <3e8b8$43128586$4232bde9$15351@COQUI.NET> Scott W. Harvey wrote: > -ex- wrote: > >> Scott W. Harvey wrote: >> >> >>> >>> It's high time that our president gets some cojones and opens the >>> spigot. I'll bet it doesn't happen though. >>> >>> -Scott >> >> >> >> You mean they've been hiding a spigot? There's gonna be a long line >> there! >> You're right. Bet it doesn't happen. > > > Actually, there are two "spigots".....One is in Texas and contains > somewhere around 225 million barrels of oil. Our pontiffs on the potomac > could open this one up and tell the oil futures speculators to suck > wind....they would be perfectly justified in doing so given the economic > bumps this thing is likely to cause (how often does a President declare > someplace a disaster area BEFORE it actually happens?) > > The other "spigot" is located in Louisiana, and has somewhere around 150 > million barrels. No way THAT one will be tapped in response to this > crisis, for obvious reasons. :-) > > > -Scott > > Damn, I should have voted for John Kerry. -ex Article: 321676 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Another Rochester report. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 04:13:06 GMT Subject: AWA Rochester Annual Conference Takes a Nose Dive From: "Paul R. Farmer" Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:41:11 +0000 Hello radio friends, I guess I cannot let a Rochester Meet go by without commenting. However, Radio Age editors (and others) please note: These candid remarks are NOT for publication. So here is my evaluation of the meet, event by event, from the perspective of various collecting and historical interests. Flea Market: This (FM) event, the backbone of any meet, fell off a cliff at Rochester this year. The organizers eliminated 2 rows of vendor spaces, but half of the remaining spaces were empty, nevertheless. The parking lot was desolate…very few shoppers walking about. Many vendors complained of poor sales; virtually all complained of the low turnout of vendors and browsers. I have never had less than great sales at any meet that I have ever attended. Not so this time. Almost nothing left our vending space. Our total sales were only 5% of what we normally sell at Rochester. Those who visited our space were completely uninterested in purchasing old radios…they were barely in the “curiosity looker” category. What I call “civilians” (couples and those fairly new to vintage radio) were totally absent this year…unusual even for Rochester. (My opinion: the somewhat reduced turnout at Rochester LAST year scared off vendors and attendees for this year more than did the current high price of gasoline. By the way, the weather was perfect throughout the meet this year.) Certain sellers did do well: Parts, tubes, chassis, low-end beaters, and especially tube audio were all in demand. The only thing shoppers were actually asking for was tube audio, rare tubes, and tube testers. There was a small raft of ebay re-sellers looking for these audio-related items. But I saw little in the way of good tube audio or audio tubes offered for sale, and the audio buyers left the meet early. The best selling may have been Tues evening, a day before the sanctioned start of the flea market. There was virtually no enforcement of the FM start rule. Dealers set up Tuesday evening and completely ignored the one late-arriving AWA enforcer. Many dealers packed up and left mid-morning on Wednesday. Some other dealers set up again on Thursday and continued to sell parts and junk. There were NO buyers of transistors, Catalins, plastic. Nevertheless, if you were a buyer, there were still many opportunities in the parking lot. Tubes: I luckily was in the right place when a gentleman unloaded a carload of NOS audio tubes and early tubes at way under market prices. It was a feeding frenzy, but I made off with numerous great buys, like a NIB BBT WD-11 for $35 and a NIB Tung Sol 5881 with micanol base for $20, plus cheap NOS 01-As, 6F6Gs, 6Y6G’s, 6SN7s, etc. Elsewhere I picked up a few NOS tubes I needed, especially loctals. A NIB unassembled Knight Kit tube tester was bought by another MAARC member, apparently a Rochester delivery that was pre-arranged. Early Battery Sets: Rochester is still one of the better venues for early equipment. There was an interesting, appealing, off-beat 3-dialer with 5 good Gold Seal 01As that I would have bought if I had sold enough to make room for it in the SUV we are now using. I was also disinclined to spend the money when we weren't selling anything. I probably should have bought it anyway. Deco sets: Nothing outstanding seen. Consoles: Brian sold a very nice RCA 816K, a set I have long admired. Not for me this time though. TVs: Lots of beat Predictas at low prices, not moving. Not much else. Mid-Century Plastics: Nothing. Bakelites: Not much seen of any consequence. I waited until late on Thursday to buy a bakelite Detrola Jr. midget in super shape. By waiting, the decent price softened a little more. Normally I would have snapped it up immediately, but again, not selling anything, I was not inclined to spend freely. Catalins: There were only a few around and I had half of those. Sackas never even unpacked his sets, except for a few novelties and damaged Catalins. He left early on Wednesday, having had enough of a dead FM. I nearly purchased a very nice swirled green Emerson 564 that was offered to me (never displayed in the FM), but $50 kept the seller and me from closing the deal. I would have accepted his reasonable price if I didn't already have one. To re-sell it profitably, I just needed a little more margin. Transistors: None of any consequence offered in the FM. I did get an early horizontal Sylvania in super shape, but these are not knock-your-socks-off transistors. I bought a beautiful Regency TR-1 in Mahogany, but it was brought there for me by pre-arrangement and was never displayed in the FM. The deal was actually initiated in Lansing, worked partly out by email, and only consummated at Rochester, where I finally got to see the set. This purchase did make the entire Rochester meet worthwhile, however. Flea Market Summary: Next year I will go to buy; not to sell. I will get a vender space just to park, put up some shade, and put out a little low-end junk. But I am afraid next year will be even worse than this year. I expect RadioActivity 2006 to be a better FM venue than Rochester next year. I am planning to move some of my radio sales to eBay to make up for a disaster in sales at Rochester. Most of us think of eBay as hurting the meets; but in fact, the poor performance of some of the meets is what is most hurting those meets…and that poor performance is sending sellers to eBay as a result. (Note: Strategic thinking + talented planning + creative marketing + energetic execution = a successful meet. I hate to generalize, but these are not areas that the AWA excels in. The work done to put together the programs and the contest was a definite exception to this poor performance, however. See below.) Seminars/Programs: Great talk on Northern Electric by Bob Murray. Good forum on publishing by Brian Belanger. Excellent presentation on Marconi propagation experiment in 2006, by Bart Lee. The AWA Member’s Forum did not feel very productive. I missed the History of the Sarnoff Library and the Television History programs but heard that they were good. I Missed some other programs as well. Rochester continues to be the best event for seminars and programs. I will spend more time in the programs next year, since there will be less to do in the FM. I skipped the Museum Tour, Banquet, and Finale Lunch. Book Fair: Good browsing, but the books tend to be expensive. Better to write down the titles and try ABE or Amazon books for your needs. Paper Auction: Paper is just plain hot. I tried to get the 1957 biography of Popov in Ex condition. Had to get out of the bidding at $80. It went for $130! ARRL conference badges (look like medals) from the '20s went for over $1,000. Crazy. They can probably be re-sold on eBay for $15. Tube auction: Tubes are in demand. I got a NIB W.E. 216-A with papers ($100), a nice (unused?) Westinghouse 860 VT17 ($35), a 1916 Telefunken new-in-case EVN 171 ($250), plus a couple of early S-bulb Mullards. Main Auction: Quite a bit of early equipment. A busted-up early Marconi went for $11,000 I think. A lot of other big prices on competed early equipment. I got a 1922-23 British Revophone ($400) crystal set. I have been interested in cased crystal sets designed like the Aeriola Jr. ever since I found a similar NRI set at an estate sale. Lots of makers made clones of the Aeriola. I am still looking for the Washington Post set. Contest: This was the highlight of the meet. Fantastic early equipment in beautiful condition and thoroughly documented. It was pure joy to behold. Super research and presentation by a number of people. My plastic Hoffman P410 transistor in the portable radio category was completely out of character. It competed against tube portables including a 1920s set. Still, it was appreciated by many of the old-timers and won the blue on the strength of documentation. This is the first time I have entered a Rochester contest, their categories not being friendly to transistors, Catalins, and plastics, or even deco '30s. It is sad that all of the work that went into most of this year's wonderful entries will never be published. Summary: The AWA is in trouble. Membership is declining and the annual meet is in free fall. It can carry on for a while as a venue for old timers, but with the exception of a very few directors, the AWA Board is too inflexible to embrace radical change that could save the organization. It is a Boy’s Club for old men, and it does not appear to be ready for change. Unless there is an almost wholesale turnover of the Board membership, AWA is likely to go the way of ARCA. It will be very sad if the needed changes don’t take place before the AWA is gutted of it’s younger enthusiasts. Once they become disaffected (many already are), there will be no future left for the organization. Perhaps the AWA name will endure, much like Zenith and Pan Am, well after it’s demise. Or maybe not. P.S. Does anyone want to start a new national vintage radio club? After a few years of hard work, we could probably buy the AWA for a song. But why would we want it? I am (half) kidding of course; I truly wish the AWA well...it's loss would be tragic. Somebody, please, do something. Regards to all, Paul Farmer Time Out of Mind Radio P.P.S. I apologize for the candor. But anything less will not help the AWA. Article: 321677 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Hurricane Message-ID: References: <3e8b8$43128586$4232bde9$15351@COQUI.NET> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 00:13:45 -0400 On Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:48:21 -0400, -ex- wrote: >Scott W. Harvey wrote: > >> -ex- wrote: >> >>> Scott W. Harvey wrote: >>> >>> >>>> >>>> It's high time that our president gets some cojones and opens the >>>> spigot. I'll bet it doesn't happen though. >>>> >>>> -Scott >>> >>> >>> >>> You mean they've been hiding a spigot? There's gonna be a long line >>> there! >>> You're right. Bet it doesn't happen. >> >> >> Actually, there are two "spigots".....One is in Texas and contains >> somewhere around 225 million barrels of oil. Our pontiffs on the potomac >> could open this one up and tell the oil futures speculators to suck >> wind....they would be perfectly justified in doing so given the economic >> bumps this thing is likely to cause (how often does a President declare >> someplace a disaster area BEFORE it actually happens?) >> >> The other "spigot" is located in Louisiana, and has somewhere around 150 >> million barrels. No way THAT one will be tapped in response to this >> crisis, for obvious reasons. :-) >> >> >> -Scott >> >> >Damn, I should have voted for John Kerry. > >-ex Bite you tounge! Article: 321678 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 00:14:30 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Hurricane References: <1125274539.011910.176360@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Scott W. Harvey wrote: > Peter Wieck wrote: > >> As they say, "Don't mess with Mother Nature". >> >> New Orleans would be about 60 miles off-river were it not for the >> levees. However, the Army Corps of Engineers has prevented the natural >> movement of the Mississippi.... > > > > My one enduring memory of my one visit to New Orleans was walking down a > bone-dry street and seeing a giant ship floating in the water ABOVE me! > It's an amazing and weird bit of civil engineering, sadly not hurricane > proof. > > >> >> Eventually it will go where it was "meant" to go. The only question is >> as to when and how many lives are lost and how much damage is done in >> the process. Sadly. > > > One thing that's probably going to come out of all this is better > evacuation planning. The notion of putting thousands of people in a dome > without dependable sources of running water, power or climate control is > a bit daffy. Also, there is said to be at least 75,000 physically > challenged people in the NO area who are unaccounted for. I sure hope > they somehow made it out of harms way. > > >> >> Just keep in mind, ladies and gentlemen, that any FEMA pay-outs to the >> victims of Katrina (and storms future and past) are at taxpayers' >> expense. About 40% of all Federal flood insurance payouts are also from >> the Taxpayer (and rising). So, keep this in mind when you drive by the >> $1,000,000+ houses on the ocean-front from Florida through Cape Cod.... >> each and every one covered by Federal Flood Insurance. > > > Those homeowners may be in for a rude awakening. If experiences in > California are any guide, the insurance payouts often don't even begin > to cover the actual losses. And, the feds are under NO obligation to > provide coverage in the future. (ask any Californian who lives in a > flood plain or coastal area). > > FEMA's primary form of financial relief is low-interest loans, and they > have been quite stingy with those of late. Bottom line: Many people who > own homes that are destroyed in this thing are not going to be able to > afford to rebuild. > > About the only bright spot for people caught up in this is that > bankruptcy under the old rules is still possible until October, so at > least some of the hard-luck cases have that option and can start over. > Those who have the need to file afterwards will be indebted to the man > forever, no matter what their circumstances (Thank you Bush, Congress, > and MBNA for producing the best bad legislation that money can buy). > > One other thing to keep in mind: The National Guard troops available to > handle this kind of thing are not as plentiful as they once were. I will > let you draw your own conclusions as to why this is so. > > -Scott > > > I lived a short spell in New Orleans in the 70s. I'm also a map and geography nut and indeed the city's layout will be lucky to survive this onslaught. I'm being charitable in saying so because the potential for the entire city to be six feet under water for weeks to come really exists. The bulk of the city proper was built in the 19th Century. There are pumping stations all over the city and they've always managed floods but guess how? Pumping the rainfall back into the lake or the river. Thats not going to work if the river rises too far. 175 mph winds that can topple a million oak trees and leave the city (and ravage pumping stations) without power for many weeks isn't a pretty forecast. Having been a Caribbean Hurricane denizen for nearly twenty years now, I take issue with your Californian evaluation of how hurricane disasters and FEMA should work. I won't go there because you haven't been here when it has happened. NOLA is going to take a beating, no doubt, but your advance political rantings, Scott, are insensitive and demonstrate that your agenda is more politically-motivated than constructive. -Bill Article: 321679 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DaveW Subject: Re: If you were living in New Orleans right now, which radio(s) would References: <49GdnVk2J-exx4_eRVn-gQ@comcast.com> Message-ID: <8TwQe.16148$yv2.235@trnddc04> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 05:16:52 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: > Assuming you don't know when you'll be back home -- whichever runs on D > cells. > > Agreed. It would be the GE Superradio III. Not my favorite, but the console wouldn't allow much else in the car. Though ugly and not of the best tone, and is (ahem) solid state, it pulls in stations like nobody's business, runs for every on zinc carbon batteries, plays loud and clear, and is small enough to fit. Of course, since the car already has a radio, and I could naturally use one of the assorted "walkman' radios for news, if I had time, it would be the best of the two Zenith 8 tube AM/Fm radios I have. The one in the bedroom gets the most use of all my radios. Then again, maybe the KLH 11Fm, as it is harder to replace. In any event, good luck to anyone in Katrina's path (this means you, Randy and Sherry!). The news said that it had taken 9 lives. Perhaps, considering the name, that will be all. Let's hope so! Regards, DAve Article: 321680 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <1125294259.796390.267260@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Question on small Sony reel tape recorder Message-ID: <1125296219.4e63a7088b6590c2aa2f5f79d19fac64@teranews> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:16:52 -0700 more likely, the switch contacts that control record/playback are corroded - try contact cleaner. To test, touch the leads coming out the back of the playback head with your fingers - if you don't get a loud hum, it's not working "Cartrivision1" wrote in message news:1125294259.796390.267260@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hi, I picked up a Sony model TC-907 reel tape recorder circa 1960 (?) > at a garage sale today. The only reason I bought it because they had > about 8 small reel tapes with what looked like vintage radio spots for > a local shopping mall. Since I collect items related to this shopping > center I offered them $5. The lady plugged a 12v DC adapter (it takes > 6v DC) into it when I inquired about the power adapter and it seemed to > be working. I immediately unplugged it when I noticed that it was the > wrong voltage. > > Well I brought it home and figured out how to thread it and cleaned the > tape head. Well the tape transport functions seem to work but I am > getting no audio. There is some sound, either a hum or static sound, > coming from the internal speaker but that is it. I tried an external > speaker but still nothing. Do you think that she could have fried the > amplifier section of the tape recorder by using the 12v adapter, > however briefly? Is there anything I could do on my end to try and fix > this thing? I am not very handy fixing electronics but if I knew what > to look out for maybe I could get it working again. > > > thanks > CTV > Article: 321681 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" Subject: FA: military radar tube Message-ID: <1125296369.70b41417b07fe4c111c3b38352451aff@teranews> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 23:19:23 -0700 here's the link http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6557186822 kinda cool looking thing - would go nice on the desk as a paper weight, and the magnet will hold paper clips. I was going to pull the magnet off but it's just too cool to scrap. I have another (probably older) radar tube (it's almost certainly a magnetron) that I'll put up for auction later -- Bill also check out http://www.wbnoble.com Article: 321682 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Hurricane Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 01:08:56 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1125274539.011910.176360@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> -ex- wrote: > Scott W. Harvey wrote: > >> Peter Wieck wrote: >> >>> As they say, "Don't mess with Mother Nature". >>> >>> New Orleans would be about 60 miles off-river were it not for the >>> levees. However, the Army Corps of Engineers has prevented the natural >>> movement of the Mississippi.... >> >> >> >> >> My one enduring memory of my one visit to New Orleans was walking down >> a bone-dry street and seeing a giant ship floating in the water ABOVE >> me! It's an amazing and weird bit of civil engineering, sadly not >> hurricane proof. >> >> >>> >>> Eventually it will go where it was "meant" to go. The only question is >>> as to when and how many lives are lost and how much damage is done in >>> the process. Sadly. >> >> >> >> One thing that's probably going to come out of all this is better >> evacuation planning. The notion of putting thousands of people in a >> dome without dependable sources of running water, power or climate >> control is a bit daffy. Also, there is said to be at least 75,000 >> physically challenged people in the NO area who are unaccounted for. I >> sure hope they somehow made it out of harms way. >> >> >>> >>> Just keep in mind, ladies and gentlemen, that any FEMA pay-outs to the >>> victims of Katrina (and storms future and past) are at taxpayers' >>> expense. About 40% of all Federal flood insurance payouts are also from >>> the Taxpayer (and rising). So, keep this in mind when you drive by the >>> $1,000,000+ houses on the ocean-front from Florida through Cape Cod.... >>> each and every one covered by Federal Flood Insurance. >> >> >> >> Those homeowners may be in for a rude awakening. If experiences in >> California are any guide, the insurance payouts often don't even begin >> to cover the actual losses. And, the feds are under NO obligation to >> provide coverage in the future. (ask any Californian who lives in a >> flood plain or coastal area). >> >> FEMA's primary form of financial relief is low-interest loans, and >> they have been quite stingy with those of late. Bottom line: Many >> people who own homes that are destroyed in this thing are not going to >> be able to afford to rebuild. >> >> About the only bright spot for people caught up in this is that >> bankruptcy under the old rules is still possible until October, so at >> least some of the hard-luck cases have that option and can start over. >> Those who have the need to file afterwards will be indebted to the man >> forever, no matter what their circumstances (Thank you Bush, Congress, >> and MBNA for producing the best bad legislation that money can buy). >> >> One other thing to keep in mind: The National Guard troops available >> to handle this kind of thing are not as plentiful as they once were. I >> will let you draw your own conclusions as to why this is so. >> >> -Scott >> >> >> > > I lived a short spell in New Orleans in the 70s. I'm also a map and > geography nut and indeed the city's layout will be lucky to survive this > onslaught. I'm being charitable in saying so because the potential for > the entire city to be six feet under water for weeks to come really exists. > I don't think it will be quite that bad....most likely it will be underwater for a few days, and then the excess water will dissapate. Once that happens, getting the pumping stations back on line will be the top immediate priority, that and figuring out how to get potable water to the populace. (The process of how NO gets its drinking water is rather fascinating in itself....let's just say that residents will probably be boiling their water for awhile yet.) > The bulk of the city proper was built in the 19th Century. There are > pumping stations all over the city and they've always managed floods but > guess how? Pumping the rainfall back into the lake or the river. > Yes, that's the achilles heel....I genuinely feel for the residents of NO, especially the ones that were unable to leave the city because of illness or infirmity. > Thats not going to work if the river rises too far. 175 mph winds that > can topple a million oak trees and leave the city (and ravage pumping > stations) without power for many weeks isn't a pretty forecast. Indeed, it probably will not work, at least for a little while anyway, as I said before, I am optimistic that the most dire forecasts of how long they are going to be dealing with the first phase of this will be proven wrong-The initial chaos will be (I hope) short lived. What I am more concerned about is the re-building phase, which WILL take a long time. How long will depend a lot on the local government's willingness to fast-track the permit process and get shovels in the ground as quickly as possible. This seems like it would be obvious to most folks, but it is not (necessarily) to bureaucrats who have their own agendas. > > Having been a Caribbean Hurricane denizen for nearly twenty years now, I > take issue with your Californian evaluation of how hurricane disasters > and FEMA should work. I won't go there because you haven't been here > when it has happened. Bill, I think you missed my point entirely. I haven't said anything about how FEMA should work. I am only commenting on how FEMA DOES work.....and what I have observed with my own eyes is what I'm commenting on here. Yes, It is true I haven't "been there" during a hurricane, because hurricanes generally ain't the things we need to worry about here in California. What we have instead are quakes, forest fires, floods, mudslides and other disasters of a lesser nature. In terms of natural disasters, I was "there" when the Loma Prieta quake hit in '89 and I was "there" just after the Northridge Quake a few years later. In both of those cases, FEMA was all over the place in the aftermath of those disasters. FEMA does many things behind the scenes but the part of its mission that the average Joe disaster victim pays attention to is its ability to grant low-interest loans to folks in disaster areas so they can get back on their feet. There is a huge perception problem amongst those who have never been in a disaster situation......They assume that if it ever happens to them that FEMA will just swoop in and bail everyone out. The reality is that there is only so much money to go around, and thus the distrbution of funds has to be prioritized somewhat. What typically happens is that businesses, who pump money into the local economy, are first in line to get access to the FEMA funds, and ordinary homeowners get what's left, if any. I think that it's entirely appropriate to do it that way if the funds are limited (which they always are). After all, If you don't have businesses operating in your community, you don't have an economy! What that means, though, is that anyone who has the notion that FEMA is going to bail them out of their troubles is going to be rather disappointed, and that was my point. NOLA is going to take a beating, no doubt, but > your advance political rantings, Scott, are insensitive and demonstrate > that your agenda is more politically-motivated than constructive. Bill, what you call political I call reality. The reality is that this disaster and its aftermath is going to force some people into bankruptcy. How they are treated is going to depend almost entirely on WHEN they file. Those that file in early October or before will be able to discharge their debts and move on, or pay pennies on the dollar and move on. Those that file later than that will basically be treated as indentured servants to their creditors, and will not be able to move on, possibly forever. This in spite of the fact that their troubles occured because of something (like this disaster) that they had absolutely no control over. Why should one person be able to walk and another not? It's because of how the new bankruptcy law is structured.....There are no provisions in it at all that deal with extraordinay situations such as this........a person who dutifully pays his bills on time and then loses everything in a hurricane is treated EXACTLY the same as someone who racks up $100K of credit-card debt on a $10K annual income. It's not that congress didn't think of this; there were several attempts to add unforseen-financial-hardship provisions into the bill before it became law, but they were all shot down primarily at the behest of the credit-card and mortgage industry lobbies. That is why I called this thing "the best bad legislation that money can buy". There is no partisanship here....everyone, democrat or republican, who voted Yea on this one must shoulder the blame for its overall badness. Frankly, what these NO people need is a break...They are going to have a lot on their minds and a lot to deal with over the next several months. They need to concentrate on rebuilding their lives without having to worry about being owned by their creditors. -Scott Article: 321683 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stein-Olav Lund Subject: Re: Question on small Sony reel tape recorder Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 10:39:41 +0200 Message-ID: <4312C9CD.70909@iet.hist.no> References: <1125294259.796390.267260@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Cartrivision1 wrote: > Hi, I picked up a Sony model TC-907 reel tape recorder circa 1960 (?) > at a garage sale today. I also had one like this!!Was my first tape recorder. Got this in 1969, the model probably came on the market a little earlier. > center I offered them $5. The lady plugged a 12v DC adapter (it takes > 6v DC) into it when I inquired about the power adapter and it seemed to > be working. I immediately unplugged it when I noticed that it was the > wrong voltage. Was the adaptor plugged into the outlet? Several transistors are probably bad if it really got 12V instead of 6.. I blew the output transistors at least once (I experimented a little too much with it!) The 2SB383 Germanium output transistors didn't cope too well if the speaker connection opened (output transformer in the amplifier), and I connected all sorts of strange loads to it... I changed the transistors, and the machine worked great for me later. I still have the tapes from it, and the Owner's Manual, which includes a schematic diagram. > > thanks > CTV > Regards Stein Trondheim, Norway Article: 321684 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: TRUCE! References: <1125211009.699829.240210@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1125227551.352152.220900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125274069.317165.257850@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <_OuQe.1762$4P5.1607@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <3dcad$43127b2e$4232bde9$28332@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <802cd$4312d60c$82a12456$24302@news1.tudelft.nl> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:31:56 +0200 -ex- wrote: > You're going into my killfile too for supporting his behaviour and > prolonging his presence here. I have kept out of this thread and after this message will continue to do so. While it may seem Gary is a bit too friendly, I think he is basically right about not -EVER- responding to drivel, and optionally responding to messages that actually are on topic or make sense (if you feel you shouldn't do that, by all means don't!). Any other posting (yelling or joking at him) will make things worse. Haven't you observed he will respond to each and every yelling and can't help himself in not doing so? Just don't give him anything to respond to. --- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 321685 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: TRUCE! References: <1125211009.699829.240210@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1125227551.352152.220900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125274069.317165.257850@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <_OuQe.1762$4P5.1607@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <3dcad$43127b2e$4232bde9$28332@COQUI.NET> <1125296153.066357.69940@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <8ab6c$4312d635$82a12456$24302@news1.tudelft.nl> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:32:37 +0200 Steven wrote: > I think Gary is right, unfortunately. You just acted like a ping pong If you really would have thought Gary was right, you'd have stayed the fuck out of this thread. --- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 321686 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Clive" Subject: Strange Russian Recording Format ? Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:28:11 +0200 Message-ID: Hi all, Recently whilst visiting Tallinn in Estonia and the rather excellent museum on its Soviet occupation. One display focused on Soviet era consumer items. One item was what looked like a 1960s' audio recorder which seemed to be using 2" tape, the reels were quite small, about 4 inches diameter. The recording heads were hidden from view and it certainly seemed to be a consumer item, not an industry format. I am not sure what the head arrangement would have been..... Has anyone ever seen a 2" tape audio recording format ? Wish I had taken a photo of it at the time. //Clive. Article: 321687 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: computer acts like a SW receiver Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:43:11 GMT "skinnysteve" wrote in message news:upq5h1t8c7km4ih6b7jrnlgbuesm0jdasn@4ax.com... > my computer picks up a faint china language broadcast i don't have to > be online for this to happen it seems to fade in and out but > sometines it is clearly audible is this possible i ask here because i > don't know where else to go thanks for any reply First - Insure your computer has a proper ground on the power cord. This may involve borrowing/buying one of the plug wire polarity/.ground testers (the small ones that have three lights and plug into the wall socket). Then - insure your power cord has a good ground circuit within. Disconnect all audio wires and try head phones, then add back each wire. Try different powered speakers, Try reseating the audio card (if it is a card), Insure the retaining screw is in place to hold the card to the chassis, look for broken shields on audio wires, or open insulation on your audio wires (indicative of broken shield). Check the wiring harnesses with in the computer for loose connectors, disconnect the CD drive's audio feed cable to isolate the CD drive. Do these in ascending order of complication. OR You could expand on this concept with: http://www.amqrp.org/kits/softrock40/ This kit plugs into a USB port on a PC. The PC does all of the signal processing. Check out the "System Requirements" section on the web page to see if your PC has enough horse power. The PC sound card also needs a _stereo_ line in connector. I have no capital interests (in any way) in this product. Our armature radio club will be building a few of these. Good luck, PP. Article: 321688 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "just me" References: <1125211009.699829.240210@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1125227551.352152.220900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125274069.317165.257850@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <_OuQe.1762$4P5.1607@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <3dcad$43127b2e$4232bde9$28332@COQUI.NET> <1125296153.066357.69940@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8ab6c$4312d635$82a12456$24302@news1.tudelft.nl> Subject: Re: TRUCE! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 07:43:21 -1200 wrote in message news:8ab6c$4312d635$82a12456$24302@news1.tudelft.nl... > Steven wrote: >> I think Gary is right, unfortunately. You just acted like a ping pong > > If you really would have thought Gary was right, you'd have stayed the > fuck out of this thread. > > --- > Met vriendelijke groet, > > Maarten Bakker. Just goes to prove, skippy "can't" do what is "right". He "has" been known to call people - write them personally, etc. So, tell me - those of you who "suggest" supporting - or shall we say "forgiving" his actions due to his illness - do YOU want him becoming a thorn in YOUR ass? I don't care what meds he is on - they aren't working. The dude needs some serious help. I know people who are Bi-Polar and they sure in hell don't act like that. One of them leads a very productive life to boot. The word TRUCE "can't" exist in Skippy's mind, it's meaning doesn't compute. This whole thread is mislabeled. My suggestion is and always will be - kill file the stupid ass. ANY time he posts under "any" name - kill file him. Don't even "try" to carry on a conversation, the effort usually ends in dire consequences - this thread is a prime example. You guys and gals are wasting valuable personal time, web space and the chance to discuss radio expertise - but instead, you're doing what? Discussing someone who shows a sure need of help - more than any "we" could ever hope to offer - even out of friendship. Just kill file him and move on. This "newsgroup" is far more worthy of your input than discussing this mindless twit. Article: 321689 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "effi" Subject: 1948 Zenith 9H885 Console AM/FM Phonograph Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 07:24:01 -0500 Message-ID: <11h5vj26a3t5i1a@corp.supernews.com> Based on a little investigation and helpful info from folks on another newsgroup, what is apparently a Cadohm wirewound resistor in this set (circled in this pic - has stamped into it what looks like "HEMUTTERO Chicago US and printed in ink 2?0 1000, where the ? is a 0, 8, or 9 - the 2 screws holding the cadohm to the chassis have been removed so it and the black thing look loose from the chassis in the pic) http://users3.ev1.net/~effi/thing.html smoked when the unit was turned on (so turned it off immediately). The black thing attached to it says "HAINES TYPE NB 1000 ohms 20 watts". Here is the schematic http://www.nostalgiaair.org/Resources/488/M0025488.htm Someone pointed out that if this Cadohm wirewound resistor is smoking there is a B Plus short that needs to be fixed. How can the B Plus short be fixed? Article: 321690 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <3e8b8$43128586$4232bde9$15351@COQUI.NET> <1125297261.444819.102280@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Hurricane Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:21:42 GMT This isn't supposed to be a political rant, but what power does the president have over the price of oil? During the last campaign, oil prices slipped a bit, and Bush was blamed for conspiring with OPEC to make him look good. Then prices jumped, and Bush was criticized for NOT pressuring OPEC to keep the prices lower! If you don't like the way oil is being handled, why not do something constructive and write your congressman? The US has two major oil reserves that are largely untapped -- Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico. In Alaska the environmentalists are crowing that it might affect the caribou. Ahem, the caribou LIKE IT! They congregate around the existing pipelines because of the warmth. As for the gulf, today might not be a good time, as existing oil wells have shut down -- but for the long haul we could get a lot more out of it. If OPEC raises their price to $70 a barrel only because of our weather, imagine what they'll be forced to do if only we TALKED about new drilling in the US! Oh, and what are the environmentalists doing about those dirty wells in the Middle East? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Steven" wrote in message news:1125297261.444819.102280@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > -ex- wrote: >> Scott W. Harvey wrote: >> >> > -ex- wrote: >> > >> >> Scott W. Harvey wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> It's high time that our president gets some cojones and opens the >> >>> spigot. I'll bet it doesn't happen though. >> >>> >> >>> -Scott >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> You mean they've been hiding a spigot? There's gonna be a long line >> >> there! >> >> You're right. Bet it doesn't happen. >> > >> > >> > Actually, there are two "spigots".....One is in Texas and contains >> > somewhere around 225 million barrels of oil. Our pontiffs on the >> > potomac >> > could open this one up and tell the oil futures speculators to suck >> > wind....they would be perfectly justified in doing so given the >> > economic >> > bumps this thing is likely to cause (how often does a President declare >> > someplace a disaster area BEFORE it actually happens?) >> > >> > The other "spigot" is located in Louisiana, and has somewhere around >> > 150 >> > million barrels. No way THAT one will be tapped in response to this >> > crisis, for obvious reasons. :-) >> > >> > >> > -Scott >> > >> > >> Damn, I should have voted for John Kerry. > > Maybe you should have found another guy to take his place. Some of us > in the minority party love our party but could care for you runs it. > I'm working on that premise citywide this next election in town. > > Did ths hurricane hit Puerto Rico? I don't watch or listen to news much > anymore. Maybe that's why you're cranky. > Article: 321691 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <49GdnVk2J-exx4_eRVn-gQ@comcast.com> <8TwQe.16148$yv2.235@trnddc04> Subject: Re: If you were living in New Orleans right now, which radio(s) would you take? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:26:26 GMT This sounds crazy but it's true. You can expect this storm to claim a lot more lives if people are not careful. Not the wind, rain, high waves, or storm surge, but rattlesnakes. Just as people head for higher ground, so do the snakes, and they are not happy about it. Hopefully everyone on this list who lives in its path has done the sensible thing and evacuated. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "DaveW" wrote in message news:8TwQe.16148$yv2.235@trnddc04... > William Sommerwerck wrote: >> Assuming you don't know when you'll be back home -- whichever runs on D >> cells. >> >> > > Agreed. It would be the GE Superradio III. Not my favorite, but the > console wouldn't allow much else in the car. Though ugly and not of the > best tone, and is (ahem) solid state, it pulls in stations like nobody's > business, runs for every on zinc carbon batteries, plays loud and clear, > and is small enough to fit. > > Of course, since the car already has a radio, and I could naturally use > one of the assorted "walkman' radios for news, if I had time, it would be > the best of the two Zenith 8 tube AM/Fm radios I have. The one in the > bedroom gets the most use of all my radios. Then again, maybe the KLH > 11Fm, as it is harder to replace. > > In any event, good luck to anyone in Katrina's path (this means you, Randy > and Sherry!). The news said that it had taken 9 lives. Perhaps, > considering the name, that will be all. Let's hope so! > > Regards, > > DAve Article: 321692 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "effi" Subject: Re: Hurricane Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 07:35:04 -0500 Message-ID: <11h607psq844b5d@corp.supernews.com> References: <3e8b8$43128586$4232bde9$15351@COQUI.NET> <1125297261.444819.102280@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:q5DQe.3146$Wd7.1754@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... > This isn't supposed to be a political rant, but what power does the > president have over the price of oil? ( rest snipped) Mobilizing the U.S. military surely effects supply, which effects price, eh? Article: 321693 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Strange Russian Recording Format ? References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:05:32 GMT Clive wrote: > Has anyone ever seen a 2" tape audio recording format ? Wish I had > taken a photo of it at the time. > 2" wide tape? WOW that's some really wide tape for a consumer app. Ron Article: 321694 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "radionutz" References: Subject: Re: Over Kill.... (test equipment) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 13:29:52 GMT I wonder why no bids? A bit pricey? DON "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:QevQe.7335$HR5.7212@tornado.socal.rr.com... >A bit of overkill I suppose for a signal generator. > > The Hewlett Packard 8660C is a synthesized signal generator. > Some excellent pictures of one are here on eBay: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7540070951 > > It's kind of fun to use for alignment. > I have mine currently set up with the AM modulator plug-in > and the 10 KHz to 110 MHz RF plug-in. > > I built one of the "Dummy Antenna" adaptors from the Radiotron > Designers Handbook. > > It certainly made setting up the preset buttons on a Zenith > 6D316 fast. ;-) > > Nice to be able to tell someone that their IF strip is > aligned to 455 KHz +/- 1/10 Hz. > > Jeff > > -- > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321695 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: TRUCE! References: <1125211009.699829.240210@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1125227551.352152.220900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125274069.317165.257850@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <_OuQe.1762$4P5.1607@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <3dcad$43127b2e$4232bde9$28332@COQUI.NET> <1125296153.066357.69940@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8ab6c$4312d635$82a12456$24302@news1.tudelft.nl> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:37:12 -0500 Gary Tayman wrote: > Has ANYBODY here received a ranting e-mail, phone call, or visit from Skippy > after they have NOT RESPONDED?????? If so, raise your hand. Yes. Some time back, there was a discussion about a particular series of turntables which have a systemic failure. When I didn't respond to his post(s) on the subject (as he's long been kill-filed here) - he called me on the phone. Most unwelcome. Even if everyone here does indeed stop responding - he posts anyway - then responds to his own posts. It's only when Jeff stays on him that he usually stays reasonably "on topic" just to show he can. Now he's got you posting (many times) off topic - I'm sure much to his delight. In his mind - ANY post in response to him or about him; is his "friend". Peter got it (IMHO) pretty much right. -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 321696 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:22:16 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Hurricane References: <3e8b8$43128586$4232bde9$15351@COQUI.NET> <1125297261.444819.102280@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11h607psq844b5d@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <61992$43132829$4232bd8f$14759@COQUI.NET> effi wrote: > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:q5DQe.3146$Wd7.1754@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... > >>This isn't supposed to be a political rant, but what power does the >>president have over the price of oil? ( rest snipped) > > > Mobilizing the U.S. military surely effects supply, which effects price, eh? > > 30,000 Humvees don't use that much fuel...but being at war with our providers sure affects things. -Bill Article: 321697 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "effi" Subject: Re: Hurricane Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 10:24:52 -0500 Message-ID: <11h6a66ja6dvbb5@corp.supernews.com> References: <3e8b8$43128586$4232bde9$15351@COQUI.NET> <1125297261.444819.102280@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11h607psq844b5d@corp.supernews.com> <1125328136.482076.82750@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> I'd try to explain to you the dwindling Saudi oil supply and thus the push by the wealthy of the western world to get a delivery system from the Caspian Sea area to a deep water ocean port in Pakistan (explains bombing the pipeline path through Afghanistan and political dealings with Pakistan, in light of China becoming a competitor for the getting the Caspian Sea oil) but you're hung up on drawing political lines and labeling Americans you know absolutely nothing about "Democrats" or "Republicans" and also in the wrong newsgroup, so I won't, and will leave you to divide and conquer what you can imagine after apparently running a service station selling gasoline. Ciao. "Steven" wrote in message news:1125328136.482076.82750@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > "Effi" hath pronounced, to this effect, > > Mobilizing the U.S. military surely effects supply, which effects > price, eh? > > No. > > In seven years of business, our prices never exceeded 1.31/1.45/1.61 > for three grades. We were never at war between 1978 and 1985, but we > were restricted by the Iranian embargo as the previous operator retired > and the station was idled for much of the sample period used to > determine our allocations by the government. That was all, and other > factors left to our eventual filing for bankruptcy, but I have to say > that neither this nor your unhelpful political ideas have much to do > with the current situation. > > The industry regularly shuts down certain plants for regular > maintenance and product upgrade. Every season formulas and production > is ramped up or down based on demand for various products. Fuel oil > production is based on these adjustments also. Higher gasoline, jet > fuel production normally requires more crude oil input to meet all > needs. This has traditionally been satsifactory, even through the Gulf > War, but there are new factors that ruin this traditional economic > pattern. > > 1. The stability of the OPEC organization began to falter and unravel > BEFORE the war in Kuwait. Posturing by non Middle Eastern members (like > those in the Americas) and the newly independent Eastern Europe and CIS > states became a bigger issue, and following the Gulf War, yes, other > Arab states began to balk against Saudi Arabia's attempts to keep > supplies going at low prices. These undertones started during the > Carter administration, mind you, with the Iranian revolution, and maybe > in the 1960s in places like Libya! > > 2. CHINA uses more oil than we do, INDIA is close behind. The Chinese > quest for fuel is crippling the supply, hence that is why they want to > buy oil companies like the former UNOCAL. Third world pollution > problems make the US look like a forest in comparison. > > 3. The last five years have held an appalling increase in natural > disasters (such as hurricanes shutting down plants for much longer that > normal), and manmade tragedies (many plant accidents that cut > production severely when other were idled for repairs, AS SCHEDULED). > There are only a handful of production facilities in North America, so > perhaps you hold some erroneous notions about this. One facility down > makes a HUGE difference. > > 4. There are FAR MORE untapped reserves of petroleum and natural gas in > the midwestern states and Canada than all of Alaska, and it is more > feasable and usable also. Diagonal drilling techniques and injection > methods would really help for some areas and underseas, but those too > will not keep your grandchildren driving. > > 5. Huge reserves of petroleum and natural gas exist in > Eurasia...nationalistic Russia and her former states. If you think > Arabs are fun...whoopee! > > Ending the war is not going to come near to addressing the supply > problem. IT has little to do with it, and it doesn't matter who is in > office at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue or No.10 Downing Street. I feel ill > thinking the Democratic Party is stifled by mindless people who spout > crap instead of what I want my party to do, find effective leadership > and bring this down to the voters in service. We don't understand why > you've abandoned us. I personally find San Fransisco to be the heart of > this pernicious, filthy, out-of-touch fantasy. Whatever happened to the > Trumanites? They weren't simple, they were good and one with us. I vote > for anybody that I believe will do the things we need, Republican, > Democrat or Dogcatcher. > > If you want to know who is supposed to lead the country, get a mirror. > Article: 321698 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Hurricane Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 08:10:26 -0700 Message-ID: References: <3e8b8$43128586$4232bde9$15351@COQUI.NET> <1125297261.444819.102280@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Gary Tayman wrote: > This isn't supposed to be a political rant, but what power does the > president have over the price of oil? Long term, none! see below... It has less to do with politics than it does with economics. The strategic petroleum reserve (the "spigot") was help moderate situations related to disruption of our nation's supply of oil. Up until yesterday, such a disruption did not exist.....There has been a good supply of oil available for quite awhile now to anyone who is willing to pay the $$$ to get it. It's expensive, to be sure, but there is no real shortage of it. Under those circumstances, there is no good reason to tap the reserves. Yesterday, that changed....The oil industry in the LA area was forced to shut down most of its operations due to the hurricane. The best-case scenario is that there will be some disruption, and that has caused oil-futures speculators to bid prices to the moon. What I heard this morning is that the prices of these futures have gone up about $7.00 in the last two trading days, or more than 10%. For this type of trading, this is a spectacular rise, and the effects of this activity have the tendency to ripple throughout the economy. One way the government could help moderate some of these increases is by opening (or threatening to open) the spigot. This is a very temporary solution for sure, but the LA situation is a very temporary disruption. IMHO this situation is a pretty good reason for Bush and congress to authorize the tapping of these reserves. > > During the last campaign, oil prices slipped a bit, and Bush was blamed for > conspiring with OPEC to make him look good. Then prices jumped, and Bush > was criticized for NOT pressuring OPEC to keep the prices lower! Anyone who understands the most simple rules of econonmics should know that any oil-price conspiricy thoery that has oil prices going DOWN to make ANYONE look good is seriously flawed. Even the Saudis couldn't do it at this point because of the overwhelming demand for their product. They could make prices go UP by cutting production, but of late they seem quite content with having the wells going full blast 24/7 and charging what the market will bear. > > If you don't like the way oil is being handled, why not do something > constructive and write your congressman? The US has two major oil reserves > that are largely untapped -- Alaska and the Gulf of Mexico. In Alaska the > environmentalists are crowing that it might affect the caribou. Ahem, the > caribou LIKE IT! They congregate around the existing pipelines because of > the warmth. As for the gulf, today might not be a good time, as existing > oil wells have shut down -- but for the long haul we could get a lot more > out of it. The problem with this has always been that what we've got here is only a tiny fraction of what we actually use, and there is no guarantee that the product produced from it will actually find its way into American gas tanks. Oil is a commodity, and it will be sold to the highest bidder, regardless of where that bidder might be. So, we may have lots of exploration, with all the environmental issues that go with it, and still not wind up with much relief for american consumers. The only true solution to this problem is to develop technologies that help us reduce our dependence on oil, period. The one thing that everyone agrees on is that the stuff is not going to last forever. The folks that develop a worthy successor to oil as an energy source will come out WAY ahead in the long run. Those folks should be US. -Scott Article: 321699 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:38:51 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Hurricane References: <3e8b8$43128586$4232bde9$15351@COQUI.NET> <1125297261.444819.102280@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11h607psq844b5d@corp.supernews.com> <1125328136.482076.82750@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11h6a66ja6dvbb5@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <7abde$43132c11$4232bd8f$8618@COQUI.NET> effi wrote: > I'd try to explain to you the dwindling Saudi oil supply and thus the push > by the wealthy of the western world to get a delivery system from the > Caspian Sea area to a deep water ocean port in Pakistan (explains bombing > the pipeline path through Afghanistan Wow...a flashback political rant. Haven't heard that foolishness in about 3 years. So how's the construction going? -Bill Article: 321700 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: computer acts like a SW receiver From: "Mr. B" Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 09:27:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1125333007_1543@spool6-east.superfeed.net> References: "skinnysteve" wrote in message news:upq5h1t8c7km4ih6b7jrnlgbuesm0jdasn@4ax.com... > my computer picks up a faint china language broadcast i don't have to > be online for this to happen it seems to fade in and out but > sometines it is clearly audible is this possible i ask here because i > don't know where else to go thanks for any reply I used to pick up ham radio from the guy across the street on my computer. Not very loud and not clear enough to understand but it was him alright. It usually happened late at night and I think he was really cranking out the power then. I don't know what he did but after I told him I could tell when he was broadcasting at night he took care of the problem and I haven't heard him since. Fine man and responsible ham if you ask me. Brian Article: 321701 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "effi" Subject: Re: 1948 Zenith 9H885 Console AM/FM Phonograph Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 11:36:52 -0500 Message-ID: <11h6ed5f4c1jcac@corp.supernews.com> References: <11h5vj26a3t5i1a@corp.supernews.com> I believe you are correct on it saying THE MUTER CO, seems the stamp in the metal wasn't hard enough to impress the T at the beginning or the O at the end, all the other letters are there with spaces between the E and M and the R and C. It does look like varnished paper the wire winding is wrapped in. Not sure what you mean about not tieing onto the old lugs and using terminal strips. Will replacing the Candohm with a modern wirewound one fix the short to ground condition, or is that anothe problem to be addressed? "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:UImdnaQGnMhDtY7eRVn-oQ@comcast.com... > these "Candohm" (get it? Ohms in a can!) are metal wirewound resistors, > often multisection, mounted to the chassis which becomes an effective > heat > sink. They are usually made by Muter (probably it says "the Muter Co" > on > it) They were most popular in tiny prewar radios, but various forms of > them > existed up thru the 50's in radio, hifi and TV sets. > > the problem is the wirewound resistor is wrapped in "cambrick" (sp?) > paper, > a varnished hard insulating paper, that eventually burns thru, and then > the > resistor shorts to chassis. The only solution usually is to replace the > Candohm with modern wirewound resistors, using terminal strips to mount > them. You should RESIST the temptation to tie onto the old lugs as the > "old > timers" did, as you still have a short to chassis condition. > > Mark Oppat > Antique Audio > > > "effi" wrote in message > news:11h5vj26a3t5i1a@corp.supernews.com... >> Based on a little investigation and helpful info from folks on another >> newsgroup, what is apparently a Cadohm wirewound resistor in this set >> (circled in this pic - has stamped into it what looks like "HEMUTTERO >> Chicago US and printed in ink 2?0 1000, where the ? is a 0, 8, or 9 - the > 2 >> screws holding the cadohm to the chassis have been removed so it and the >> black thing look loose from the chassis in the pic) >> http://users3.ev1.net/~effi/thing.html >> smoked when the unit was turned on (so turned it off immediately). >> >> The black thing attached to it says "HAINES TYPE NB 1000 ohms 20 watts". >> >> Here is the schematic >> http://www.nostalgiaair.org/Resources/488/M0025488.htm >> >> Someone pointed out that if this Cadohm wirewound resistor is smoking > there >> is a B Plus short that needs to be fixed. >> >> How can the B Plus short be fixed? >> >> >> > > > Article: 321702 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin" References: <4310d5cb$0$22949$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net> Subject: Re: ISO Schematic for Philips 343A Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:37:40 +0100 Message-ID: <431339d3$0$97135$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> Paul, I've posted a 310A circuit to the binaries. Is it anywhere near? Martin. "Paul P" wrote in message news:h4tQe.145003$5N3.79229@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > Martin, > > It is like the British model, newer and bakelite. Where manufactured? I > am > not sure. But it appears to be for the English speaking British market. > > Paul. > > > "Martin" wrote in message > news:4310d5cb$0$22949$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net... >> >> "Paul P" wrote in message >> news:xauPe.674576$cg1.348053@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >>>I am in search of a schematic and alignment info for a Philips 343A Table >>> Top radio. It runs on 200 -240 vac at 50 hz. My hope is to restore this >>> radio and get it to run on American power. >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> Paul P. >>> paul at (remove) ppinyot dot com >>> >>> >> Is it the 1935 model shown here >> http://www.datastress.com/~mario/radio/types.php?group=300 >> or a 1950s model like a British 341A,with rimlocks (ECH42 etc.) >> http://www.vintage-radio.com/manufacturers-and-sets/philips.shtml >> and where was it made? >> Martin. >> > > > Article: 321703 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Joe L." Subject: Re: computer acts like a SW receiver References: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:16:25 -0500 Message-ID: In article , skinnysteve wrote: > my computer picks up a faint china language broadcast i don't have to > be online for this to happen it seems to fade in and out but > sometines it is clearly audible is this possible i ask here because i > don't know where else to go thanks for any reply Wonder if you're picking up China Radio International which is broadcast, I beleive, from Radio Canada International's transmitters in Sackville, New Brunswick. They put a *very* strong signal. Where are you located? Also, it could be a local ethnic-language radio station. Are you aware of one in your area? If you're using external amplified speakers plugged into your computer, could be that the speaker wires are picking up the radio signal. Then the speaker amplifier rectifies it (changing radio energy into audio), and amplifies it so it's heard in the speakers. If this is the pick-up mode, then winding a few turns of the speaker wire through a large ferrite toroid might fix the problem. -- Joe Article: 321704 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Over Kill.... (test equipment) References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:25:42 GMT radionutz wrote: > I wonder why no bids? A bit pricey? > DON It appears a bit pricey, but it isn't. The 2,600 MHz plug-ins go for $300-400 by them selves at times. eBay is funny that way. Somethings sell like hot cakes and others have to be there "just at the right time." Another thing to take note of, it is somewhere in Florida. Right now, nobody want's to risk having something expensive "lost in transit" due to Hurricane Katrina. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321705 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: Over Kill.... (test equipment) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:39:59 +0200 Message-ID: <719fd0cbc5bf5b2371f9ae6f69d0567e@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: For 20 yrs I was the senior service tech on this model at HP and did component level repairs on no less than 1,000 of these. It is definetly not something I would want on my bench knowing the frequency of repairs! One pre-repair you must do is to: UNPLUG; remove the covers, and the four screws holding in the "display/keyboard" section; pull it out a couple of inches, and remove the two tiny screws holding the DC connectors together; pull the connectors apart and put a slight "U" bend in the pins; reassemble. You are going to nuts in years coming with intermittent operation unless you do this; the female half fatigues terribly. It may seem chicken to "unplug" first but the low voltage supplies are still on the connectors with power off. -Pete O Article: 321706 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: 1948 Zenith 9H885 Console AM/FM Phonograph References: <11h5vj26a3t5i1a@corp.supernews.com> <11h6ed5f4c1jcac@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:40:07 GMT effi wrote: > Not sure what you mean about not tieing onto the old lugs and using terminal > strips. > > Will replacing the Candohm with a modern wirewound one fix the short to > ground condition, or is that anothe problem to be addressed? There were two types of failures with the Candohm resistors. The first type is a simple open. That could be repaired by simply bridging a new resistor across the two terminals on the candohm. The second type of failure, was the resistance element burned through the insulation and shorted to the metal wrapper (and to ground.) In that case, the entire candohm needs to be isolated from the circuitry. Hence the comment about using new tie strips to hold the new (descrete) resistors. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321707 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <4310d5cb$0$22949$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net> <431339d3$0$97135$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> Subject: Re: ISO Schematic for Philips 343A Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:16:09 GMT Marin, It looks like it will help. There are three bands and the power transformer has some intriguing taps on the schematic. Hopefully a 120 vac primary tap. I will have to pull the chassis and compare the schematic to the underside. Do you have the component value list (pg 103)? If you do would you please send or post it. Thank you for posting the schematic and your time, Paul. paul at ppinyot REMOVE dot com "Martin" wrote in message news:431339d3$0$97135$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net... > Paul, > I've posted a 310A circuit to the binaries. > Is it anywhere near? > Martin. > > "Paul P" wrote in > message news:h4tQe.145003$5N3.79229@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >> Martin, >> >> It is like the British model, newer and bakelite. Where manufactured? I >> am >> not sure. But it appears to be for the English speaking British market. >> >> Paul. >> >> >> "Martin" wrote in message >> news:4310d5cb$0$22949$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net... >>> >>> "Paul P" wrote in >>> message >>> news:xauPe.674576$cg1.348053@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... >>>>I am in search of a schematic and alignment info for a Philips 343A >>>>Table >>>> Top radio. It runs on 200 -240 vac at 50 hz. My hope is to restore >>>> this >>>> radio and get it to run on American power. >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance, >>>> Paul P. >>>> paul at (remove) ppinyot dot com >>>> >>>> >>> Is it the 1935 model shown here >>> http://www.datastress.com/~mario/radio/types.php?group=300 >>> or a 1950s model like a British 341A,with rimlocks (ECH42 etc.) >>> http://www.vintage-radio.com/manufacturers-and-sets/philips.shtml >>> and where was it made? >>> Martin. >>> >> >> >> > > From no one Tue Aug 30 11:06:26 EDT 2005 Article: 321708 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: not i Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Over Kill.... (test equipment) Organization: none Reply-To: no one Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 32 Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 18:59:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.110.239.238 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 1125341997 216.110.239.238 (Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:59:57 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 14:59:57 EDT Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news-feed01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net!nntp.frontiernet.net!newsread.com!newsstand.newsread.com!POSTED.monger.newsread.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:321708 On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 03:25:36 GMT, Jeffrey D Angus wrote: >A bit of overkill I suppose for a signal generator. > >The Hewlett Packard 8660C is a synthesized signal generator. >Some excellent pictures of one are here on eBay: >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7540070951 > >It's kind of fun to use for alignment. >I have mine currently set up with the AM modulator plug-in >and the 10 KHz to 110 MHz RF plug-in. I am still in the vacuum tube era! I use an HP 8690B sweep generator for things like this. > >I built one of the "Dummy Antenna" adaptors from the Radiotron >Designers Handbook. > >It certainly made setting up the preset buttons on a Zenith >6D316 fast. ;-) > >Nice to be able to tell someone that their IF strip is >aligned to 455 KHz +/- 1/10 Hz. > >Jeff Article: 321710 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: computer acts like a SW receiver Date: 29 Aug 2005 14:19:01 -0500 Message-ID: <43135f28$0$215$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: Paul P wrote: > "skinnysteve" wrote in message > news:upq5h1t8c7km4ih6b7jrnlgbuesm0jdasn@4ax.com... > >>my computer picks up a faint china language broadcast i don't have to >>be online for this to happen it seems to fade in and out but >>sometines it is clearly audible is this possible i ask here because i >>don't know where else to go thanks for any reply > > > First - Insure your computer has a proper ground on the power cord. ** ENSURE ** This > may involve borrowing/buying one of the plug wire polarity/.ground testers > (the small ones that have three lights and plug into the wall socket). > > Then - insure your power cord has a good ground circuit within. ** ENSURE ** You insure your car. You ensure to make something certain. Assure to verify, confirm. Bubba Article: 321711 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: why_not@spam_sucks.org Subject: Need Info on Inca Transformers Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 12:30:42 -0700 I have a bunch of really old Inca transformers which were made by Phelps Dodge. I would like to identify these. Does anybody have an Inca Catalog?? Thanks, Dave Article: 321712 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Car radio question Date: 29 Aug 2005 14:31:02 -0500 Message-ID: <431361fa$0$221$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> My friend "won" a car radio on eBay. It fits his '70s Dodge Dart. The radio is an am/fm Motorola Mark IV with the number 501-623 on the label; Made in Canada. It's solid-state, mono. I'd like to know if it's safe for him to use (2) standard automotive 4-ohm speakers with this. It would produce a 2-ohm load to the output transistors. There are two existing 6x9" cutouts in the rear deck, so he'd like to just put the speakers there, with no fader. Option #2 is to use a fader front/rear. I figure that putting these speakers in series, with a 16 ohm load, would not be very satisfying. Ordinarily, I'd be inclined to say, "Well, hey: just hook up a pair of ordinary 8 ohm speakers in parallel, except that home speakers don't come in the right size. How can he use this thing safely with 6x9 speakers? Bubba Article: 321713 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <719fd0cbc5bf5b2371f9ae6f69d0567e@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Subject: Re: Over Kill.... (test equipment) Message-ID: <65KQe.6845$ct5.3722@fed1read04> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 16:19:13 -0400 "Pete_O" wrote in message news:719fd0cbc5bf5b2371f9ae6f69d0567e@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com... > For 20 yrs I was the senior service tech on this model at HP and did > component level repairs on no less than 1,000 of these. It is definetly > not something I would want on my bench knowing the frequency of repairs! > > One pre-repair you must do is to: UNPLUG; remove the covers, and the four > screws holding in the "display/keyboard" section; pull it out a couple of > inches, and remove the two tiny screws holding the DC connectors together; > pull the connectors apart and put a slight "U" bend in the pins; > reassemble. You are going to nuts in years coming with intermittent > operation unless you do this; the female half fatigues terribly. It may > seem chicken to "unplug" first but the low voltage supplies are still on > the connectors with power off. -Pete O > Can't be worse than the Wavetek 300x series!! Peter Article: 321714 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <431361fa$0$221$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Subject: Re: Car radio question Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:21:10 GMT If you put two 4 ohm speakers in series, you will not have 16 ohms' you will have 8 ohms. Your best "power match" is to have 4 ohms across the output of a radio that is made for 4 ohms. If you have 2 ohms, or 8 ohms, you will have a little less power available. If you use 2 ohms, you will be drawing more current as well through the power transistor. It may not hurt anything, but why take the chance. Better to use 8 ohms. Also you mentioned a front/rear fader. Are you adding this to a front speaker? If so, that has to be included into the mix, and the 8 ohm route is defintely better in that respect. Of course all of this is assuming this radio is designed for 4 ohm speakers -- does it say that somewhere? Many older car radios were designed for 8 ohm speakers. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "CalBubba" wrote in message news:431361fa$0$221$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com... > My friend "won" a car radio on eBay. It fits his '70s Dodge Dart. The > radio is an am/fm Motorola Mark IV with the number 501-623 on the label; > Made in Canada. It's solid-state, mono. > > I'd like to know if it's safe for him to use (2) standard automotive 4-ohm > speakers with this. It would produce a 2-ohm load to the output > transistors. There are two existing 6x9" cutouts in the rear deck, so he'd > like to just put the speakers there, with no fader. Option #2 is to use a > fader front/rear. > > I figure that putting these speakers in series, with a 16 ohm load, would > not be very satisfying. Ordinarily, I'd be inclined to say, "Well, hey: > just hook up a pair of ordinary 8 ohm speakers in parallel, except that > home speakers don't come in the right size. > > How can he use this thing safely with 6x9 speakers? > > Bubba Article: 321715 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: Over Kill.... (test equipment) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:40:23 +0200 Message-ID: <1751efbf6e59a736a4e77d66b4eb0218@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: <719fd0cbc5bf5b2371f9ae6f69d0567e@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> If anyone wants the CORRECT way to eliminate 75% of the problems in less than 5 minutes with the 8660/86601A combination, contact me at "lawnweeds100@yahoo.com" The 8660 with the 86603 or 86602 have a different series of problems that can be solved in 15 minutes. - Pete O. Article: 321716 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: computer acts like a SW receiver Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:01:10 -0400 "skinnysteve" wrote in message news:upq5h1t8c7km4ih6b7jrnlgbuesm0jdasn@4ax.com... > my computer picks up a faint china language broadcast i don't have to > be online for this to happen it seems to fade in and out but > sometines it is clearly audible is this possible i ask here because i > don't know where else to go thanks for any reply Sell it on eBay as being able to communicate with spirits from beyond. It should bring some big bucks with a good writeup and some decent pix. Peter Article: 321717 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Hagman" Subject: Re: Hurricane Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:23:01 -0400 Message-ID: <11h766ojclkv733@corp.supernews.com> References: <3e8b8$43128586$4232bde9$15351@COQUI.NET> "-ex-" wrote in message news:3e8b8$43128586$4232bde9$15351@COQUI.NET... > > Damn, I should have voted for John Kerry. > > Too late- you're stuck with the callous lying puppet until 2008. The way I see it, Bush supporters should receive 100% any windfall surpluses the economy develops from all the wonderful tax cutting stimulation it's been given. Conversely, if it all goes into the toilet they can be the ones to pay our future Chinese slave masters. John H. John H. Article: 321718 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: <4310d5cb$0$22949$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net> <431339d3$0$97135$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> Subject: Re: ISO Schematic for Philips 343A Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 00:21:40 +0100 Message-ID: <431398af$0$1316$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> Paul P wrote: > Marin, > > It looks like it will help. There are three bands and the power > transformer has some intriguing taps on the schematic. Hopefully a > 120 vac primary tap. > > I will have to pull the chassis and compare the schematic to the > underside. Do you have the component value list (pg 103)? If you do > would you please send or post it. > > Thank you for posting the schematic and your time, > Paul. > > paul at ppinyot REMOVE dot com > > You're most welcome. Oops! Sorry I missed p103.I left the book near my friend's computer. I have another of both here, but the computer's not set up to do the compression to DJVU yet and my ISP's server won't accept a 500K jpeg, as I found out today... Meanwhile, a short interlude and a brief interrogation... Does it have an EZ40 and big tarry mains transformer on the RHS of chassis, looking from the back, and a mains lead coded red&black, in which case you're likely to find 110V & 127V tappings on the voltage selector "carousel" disc, or same lead and a UY41 rectifier and a sweaty dropper, in which case it's possibly a 200-240V only set, but can be easily modified to 120V or an AZ41 and American style black fig.8 "zip" lead, in which case it may be 220V only? If it is a British AC-only set, (Also sold to Welsh-speakers, BTW:) ! ) Does the LH knob control a 5-position switch or a pot with lever underneath (for gramophone/radio)? the usual problems are O/C output transformer primary, leaky (boiling tar after a few minutes!) capacitor across half the HT secondary, usually in a cardboard clip attached to a screw of the o/p Xformer, leaky grid-coupling capacitor to the EL41, tarnished valve pins, the odd other leaky cap., but they're not usually too bad. Oh, I won't mention the string! Martin. Article: 321719 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" Subject: NEED: Majestic 90 tuning cap!!!! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:40:36 -0400 Anyone parting out a Majestic 90 chassis with a GOOD tuning cap, free of pot metal rot? Pete Article: 321720 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Another Rochester report. Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:41:03 -0400 Message-ID: <11h778i42shehf0@corp.supernews.com> References: Paul Farmer wrote: > P.P.S. I apologize for the candor. But anything less will not help the AWA. No apology needed- I don't see how all the politeness has helped over the years. AWA is an arrogant oligarchy run by Iron Fisted King Fizette. AWA is happily and deliberately running younger collectors (read non retired or wealthy) out of the meets on a rail. Why- because as I've been told endlessly "they're not SERIOUS collectors". Their plan to purge the meets of the unwashed and unfaithful is succeeding brilliantly. Soon only the Truly Worthy will remain. John H. From adouglasatgis.net Tue Aug 30 11:06:29 EDT 2005 Article: 321721 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: found in ma's basement Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 19:28:57 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: <1124766349.900785.144210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFPe.67341$084.15139@attbi_s22> <8%hQe.1355$4P5.395@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-143.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!pln-w!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:321721 Hi, Bruce wrote: >>> They are not oil filled. There are no oil caps in home radios. >>> Alan > >Yes, according to the Maintenance Manual, Capehart's postwar 1947-48 "N" >series and the later "P" series >of radio/phonographs used "bathtub-type oil-filled condensers". I'll buy that, but you have to admit, 0.0001% of all radios is pretty close to "none." Alan Article: 321722 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: <1125349940.623557.203570@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: AK-60, time for a vote Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 00:56:15 +0100 Message-ID: <4313a0c7$0$17504$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net> Peter Wieck wrote: > Sheeesh..... > > Gary: You have an opportunity to have (in your SHOP ONLY) a 100% OEM > radio that is 100% unmolested. > > Using the metered variac that I am sure you have, you will run it up > and verify that it does actually *work*. You will calculate based on > transformer losses (plugged in with no tubes and no rectifier) then > all tubes *BUT* the rectifier, then *with* the rectifier what the > approximate current draw should be. You will then use a DUAL-ELEMENT > fuse that is very close to that value of current, relying on the > dual-element part to handle the turn-on surge. You will install a > line-voltage dropping resistor as well, to bring the voltage to the > lowest voltage for proper operation. Do this in an outside box that > holds the fuse as well. Remember that short-cycling a D-E Fuse will > cause it to fail. > > Then play the thing. You have guarded against catastrophic failure > with the 'close' fuse. You have dropped the voltage so that things do > not overheat. You have left the radio untouched. You are _always_ > there when it is playing. Go for it. > > The moment it leaves your shop, none of the above applies. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA That's the nearest to my response. Here, it would be run from a 240:110 isolating transformer with suitable anti-surge ("T") fuses in its secondary and primary, so no need to use a 3-conductor cord. The grid- coupling capacitor, if the set had one, and some others which would cause trouble if they failed, (i.e. not cathode bypass caps across low value resistors) would be *very carefully* disconnected at one end if necessary, "Meggered"(tested for insulation resistance at 250 or 500V, as appropriate) If OK, all the rest would be left unmolested, but if faulty *all* likely to cause damage would either be neatly disconnected at one end & replaced electrically, or re-stuffed. Since it is supposed to be working, there will be no O/C resistors (!) and they rarely go low and cause damage, so that'd be it. Martin Article: 321723 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: <1125274539.011910.176360@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Hurricane Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 00:17:53 GMT And you're the one telling us how you worked tax free in another country, whose expense was that at? > Just keep in mind, ladies and gentlemen, that any FEMA pay-outs to the > victims of Katrina (and storms future and past) are at taxpayers' > expense. About 40% of all Federal flood insurance payouts are also from > the Taxpayer (and rising). So, keep this in mind when you drive by the > $1,000,000+ houses on the ocean-front from Florida through Cape Cod.... > each and every one covered by Federal Flood Insurance. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 321724 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Another Rochester report. References: <11h778i42shehf0@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 00:18:41 GMT Hagstar wrote: > > AWA is an arrogant oligarchy run by Iron Fisted King Fizette. AWA is > happily and deliberately running younger collectors (read non retired or > wealthy) out of the meets on a rail. I hate to argue with you, but Bill Fizette hasn't been President of the AWA for several years now. My good friend Geoffrey Bourne is AWA President now and he's a young guy. Be assured that I don't agree with everything AWA does by any means. But understand that AWA has been around more than fifty years and their main focus was historical documentation and NOT hosting flea markets. In the nearly thirty years that I've been a member ( I was 22 when I joined) the hobby of radio collecting has changed dramatically. It will take a while for AWA to change too. I understand that Geoff was heard telling the Rochester staff to "be nice" to the conference attendees. I also understand that they're planning to cut out the Wednesday start and move it to Thursday. Of course now we'll hear all the crying that "it's not fair, I can't take off from work..." At least they're trying to make some changes. It's too bad that there aren't 50 hours in Saturday, then they could have the Flea Market, the Auction, all the Forums, the Equipment contest, etc. all in one day. I'll say it again, AT LEAST THEY'RE TRYING! Ron Article: 321725 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: <9Ludnc4omqFzj5LeRVn-hA@comcast.com> <1125084371.202865.187080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1125205374.527721.178560@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125211009.699829.240210@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1125227551.352152.220900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125274069.317165.257850@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: TRUCE! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 00:30:45 GMT Pete you are the lowlife here, god.You are the person who is never wrong, was brought up the only proper way to be brought up. So go kiss off. Snob, lowlife. "Peter Wieck" pfjw@aol.com wrote in message news:1125274069.317165.257850@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > He is bipolar. > His father operated or was employed by a gasoline station at least at > some stage in his career. > He is on welfare, or some form of public assistance. So with this upbringing he is not allowed to post here because you say so? You pete are the problem. It's none of your business what anybody's background is. But you couldn't understand that. You probably stick your nose so far up any boss's ass you ever had it's probably pathetic. If he's on welfare so what? Does that makle him bad? You worked out of the country without paying taxes so in my book and many others, you are scum. Where his father worked or anybody in his family is also none of your business. Get a life. Snob. Lowlife. Article: 321726 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: <9Ludnc4omqFzj5LeRVn-hA@comcast.com> <1125084371.202865.187080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1125205374.527721.178560@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125211009.699829.240210@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1125227551.352152.220900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125274069.317165.257850@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <_OuQe.1762$4P5.1607@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <3dcad$43127b2e$4232bde9$28332@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: TRUCE! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 00:35:00 GMT Bill is a baby, nananana-na. Oh bill ,put me in your kill file to because i stood up for someone. Anybody has the right to post here, get over it. YOU learn to use your killfile. Just because you have to respond to every message does not mean you are always right. Skippy this, skippy that, so what. Ignore it. Shut up. You couldn't do it if you tried. Why don't you go the way of your friend syl, he used to have to post to every message too. Oh, skippy called my home phone number, ,boohoo. Grow up. "-ex-" wrote in message news:3dcad$43127b2e$4232bde9$28332@COQUI.NET... > Gary Tayman wrote: > > > What really bothers me is when Skippy posts a message that, if sent by >> anyone else would be considered legitimate, and someone responds with a >> nasty insult just because it's Skippy that wrote it. > > Gary, now that you have become his most recent "buddy" come back in a > coupla months after he targets you with rambling emails and phone calls. > > You're going into my killfile too for supporting his behaviour and > prolonging his presence here. > > -Bill Article: 321727 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Rip In Speaker Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 01:04:12 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <37586$43114ac0$4232bd3f$32562@COQUI.NET> <12354-4311C405-67@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> In "Buck Frobisher" writes: >"Bill Sheppard" wrote in message >news:12354-4311C405-67@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net... >> >>>Small rivets. >>>27. >>> >>>-Bill >> >> Pop rivets? : - ) >> >> Bill(oc) >Stick to nuts and bolts: rivets will rattle on the cone with age. :) Hilti tool. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321728 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: Subject: Re: Another Rochester report. Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 01:08:22 GMT I have to agree with most if not all youve stated here too. They drove me out too... last year was on the verge of a total disappointment and Im really glad I didnt go this year and have to see the final free fall. Just a thought here but... How about Running Friday to Sunday? Most of us can get at least ONE day off and that way they are not wasting the weekend for those that work during the week. Keith "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:mXvQe.109869$ll3.923024@twister.southeast.rr.com... > > Subject: > AWA Rochester Annual Conference Takes a Nose Dive > From: "Paul R. Farmer" > Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2005 17:41:11 +0000 > > Hello radio friends, > > I guess I cannot let a Rochester Meet go by without commenting. However, > Radio Age editors (and others) please note: These candid remarks are NOT > for publication. > > So here is my evaluation of the meet, event by event, from the > perspective of various collecting and historical interests. > > Flea Market: > > This (FM) event, the backbone of any meet, fell off a cliff at Rochester > this year. The organizers eliminated 2 rows of vendor spaces, but half > of the remaining spaces were empty, nevertheless. The parking lot was > desolate…very few shoppers walking about. Many vendors complained of > poor sales; virtually all complained of the low turnout of vendors and > browsers. > > I have never had less than great sales at any meet that I have ever > attended. Not so this time. Almost nothing left our vending space. Our > total sales were only 5% of what we normally sell at Rochester. Those > who visited our space were completely uninterested in purchasing old > radios…they were barely in the “curiosity looker” category. What I call > “civilians” (couples and those fairly new to vintage radio) were totally > absent this year…unusual even for Rochester. > > (My opinion: the somewhat reduced turnout at Rochester LAST year scared > off vendors and attendees for this year more than did the current high > price of gasoline. By the way, the weather was perfect throughout the > meet this year.) > > Certain sellers did do well: Parts, tubes, chassis, low-end beaters, and > especially tube audio were all in demand. The only thing shoppers were > actually asking for was tube audio, rare tubes, and tube testers. There > was a small raft of ebay re-sellers looking for these audio-related > items. But I saw little in the way of good tube audio or audio tubes > offered for sale, and the audio buyers left the meet early. > > The best selling may have been Tues evening, a day before the sanctioned > start of the flea market. There was virtually no enforcement of the FM > start rule. Dealers set up Tuesday evening and completely ignored the > one late-arriving AWA enforcer. Many dealers packed up and left > mid-morning on Wednesday. Some other dealers set up again on Thursday > and continued to sell parts and junk. There were NO buyers of > transistors, Catalins, plastic. > > Nevertheless, if you were a buyer, there were still many opportunities > in the parking lot. > > Tubes: I luckily was in the right place when a gentleman unloaded a > carload of NOS audio tubes and early tubes at way under market prices. > It was a feeding frenzy, but I made off with numerous great buys, like a > NIB BBT WD-11 for $35 and a NIB Tung Sol 5881 with micanol base for $20, > plus cheap NOS 01-As, 6F6Gs, 6Y6G’s, 6SN7s, etc. > > Elsewhere I picked up a few NOS tubes I needed, especially loctals. > > A NIB unassembled Knight Kit tube tester was bought by another MAARC > member, apparently a Rochester delivery that was pre-arranged. > > Early Battery Sets: Rochester is still one of the better venues for > early equipment. There was an interesting, appealing, off-beat 3-dialer > with 5 good Gold Seal 01As that I would have bought if I had sold enough > to make room for it in the SUV we are now using. I was also disinclined > to spend the money when we weren't selling anything. I probably should > have bought it anyway. > > Deco sets: Nothing outstanding seen. > > Consoles: Brian sold a very nice RCA 816K, a set I have long admired. > Not for me this time though. > > TVs: Lots of beat Predictas at low prices, not moving. Not much else. > > Mid-Century Plastics: Nothing. > > Bakelites: Not much seen of any consequence. I waited until late on > Thursday to buy a bakelite Detrola Jr. midget in super shape. By > waiting, the decent price softened a little more. Normally I would have > snapped it up immediately, but again, not selling anything, I was not > inclined to spend freely. > > Catalins: There were only a few around and I had half of those. Sackas > never even unpacked his sets, except for a few novelties and damaged > Catalins. He left early on Wednesday, having had enough of a dead FM. > > I nearly purchased a very nice swirled green Emerson 564 that was > offered to me (never displayed in the FM), but $50 kept the seller and > me from closing the deal. I would have accepted his reasonable price if > I didn't already have one. To re-sell it profitably, I just needed a > little more margin. > > Transistors: None of any consequence offered in the FM. I did get an > early horizontal Sylvania in super shape, but these are not > knock-your-socks-off transistors. I bought a beautiful Regency TR-1 in > Mahogany, but it was brought there for me by pre-arrangement and was > never displayed in the FM. The deal was actually initiated in Lansing, > worked partly out by email, and only consummated at Rochester, where I > finally got to see the set. This purchase did make the entire Rochester > meet worthwhile, however. > > Flea Market Summary: Next year I will go to buy; not to sell. I will get > a vender space just to park, put up some shade, and put out a little > low-end junk. But I am afraid next year will be even worse than this > year. I expect RadioActivity 2006 to be a better FM venue than Rochester > next year. > > I am planning to move some of my radio sales to eBay to make up for a > disaster in sales at Rochester. Most of us think of eBay as hurting the > meets; but in fact, the poor performance of some of the meets is what is > most hurting those meets…and that poor performance is sending sellers to > eBay as a result. (Note: Strategic thinking + talented planning + > creative marketing + energetic execution = a successful meet. I hate to > generalize, but these are not areas that the AWA excels in. The work > done to put together the programs and the contest was a definite > exception to this poor performance, however. See below.) > > Seminars/Programs: > > Great talk on Northern Electric by Bob Murray. Good forum on publishing > by Brian Belanger. Excellent presentation on Marconi propagation > experiment in 2006, by Bart Lee. The AWA Member’s Forum did not feel > very productive. I missed the History of the Sarnoff Library and the > Television History programs but heard that they were good. I Missed some > other programs as well. Rochester continues to be the best event for > seminars and programs. I will spend more time in the programs next year, > since there will be less to do in the FM. > > I skipped the Museum Tour, Banquet, and Finale Lunch. > > Book Fair: > > Good browsing, but the books tend to be expensive. Better to write down > the titles and try ABE or Amazon books for your needs. > > Paper Auction: > > Paper is just plain hot. I tried to get the 1957 biography of Popov in > Ex condition. Had to get out of the bidding at $80. It went for $130! > ARRL conference badges (look like medals) from the '20s went for over > $1,000. Crazy. They can probably be re-sold on eBay for $15. > > Tube auction: > > Tubes are in demand. I got a NIB W.E. 216-A with papers ($100), a nice > (unused?) Westinghouse 860 VT17 ($35), a 1916 Telefunken new-in-case EVN > 171 ($250), plus a couple of early S-bulb Mullards. > > Main Auction: > > Quite a bit of early equipment. A busted-up early Marconi went for > $11,000 I think. A lot of other big prices on competed early equipment. > I got a 1922-23 British Revophone ($400) crystal set. I have been > interested in cased crystal sets designed like the Aeriola Jr. ever > since I found a similar NRI set at an estate sale. Lots of makers made > clones of the Aeriola. I am still looking for the Washington Post set. > > Contest: > > This was the highlight of the meet. Fantastic early equipment in > beautiful condition and thoroughly documented. It was pure joy to > behold. Super research and presentation by a number of people. My > plastic Hoffman P410 transistor in the portable radio category was > completely out of character. It competed against tube portables > including a 1920s set. Still, it was appreciated by many of the > old-timers and won the blue on the strength of documentation. This is > the first time I have entered a Rochester contest, their categories not > being friendly to transistors, Catalins, and plastics, or even deco > '30s. It is sad that all of the work that went into most of this year's > wonderful entries will never be published. > > Summary: > > The AWA is in trouble. Membership is declining and the annual meet is in > free fall. It can carry on for a while as a venue for old timers, but > with the exception of a very few directors, the AWA Board is too > inflexible to embrace radical change that could save the organization. > It is a Boy’s Club for old men, and it does not appear to be ready for > change. Unless there is an almost wholesale turnover of the Board > membership, AWA is likely to go the way of ARCA. It will be very sad if > the needed changes don’t take place before the AWA is gutted of it’s > younger enthusiasts. Once they become disaffected (many already are), > there will be no future left for the organization. Perhaps the AWA name > will endure, much like Zenith and Pan Am, well after it’s demise. Or > maybe not. > > P.S. Does anyone want to start a new national vintage radio club? After > a few years of hard work, we could probably buy the AWA for a song. But > why would we want it? I am (half) kidding of course; I truly wish the > AWA well...it's loss would be tragic. Somebody, please, do something. > > Regards to all, > Paul Farmer > Time Out of Mind Radio > > P.P.S. I apologize for the candor. But anything less will not help the AWA. Article: 321729 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Contact Cleaner recommended by HP Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 01:15:38 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1124929119.200257.311480@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43103c4a$0$194$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> In <43103c4a$0$194$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> CalBubba writes: >HP's manual probably was boilerplate, and this section may have been >lifted from something else. The reason is that for their documentation, >instead of word processing or WYSIWYG software, they used a proprietary >version of Structured Generalized Markup Language (SGML): a direct >predecessor of HTML. Creating documents with it was a real bitch: all >the manuals had to be hand-coded with embedded codes <\and >this>. Forget one of these marks or get the syntax wrong, and 80 pages >of garbage come out of the printer. Been there; done that. I'm still rather fond of runoff. My resume's written that way. Once I had, for obtuse reasons, a Motorola VME-10 development system as my home machine. I wound up writing a primitve version of nroff in assembler. :) To pick a nit, WYSIWYG has nothing to do with embedded formatting commands, or lack thereof. Your typical Word! document has them, after all, as do HTML documents, as you imply. Both are normally manipulated with WYSIWYG editors. It was just that back in the day you were lucky to have a screen-addressable terminal, let alone one with fonts other than troglodite bold. That's why WYSIWYG wasn't an option. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321730 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: found in ma's basement Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 01:23:49 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1124766349.900785.144210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFPe.67341$084.15139@attbi_s22> <8%hQe.1355$4P5.395@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> In Alan Douglas writes: > Bruce wrote: >>Yes, according to the Maintenance Manual, Capehart's postwar 1947-48 "N" >>series and the later "P" series >>of radio/phonographs used "bathtub-type oil-filled condensers". > I'll buy that, but you have to admit, 0.0001% of all radios is >pretty close to "none." The only place I've ever seen them is in pre-war television ultor supplies. I can't imagine anything else needing them. From what I've understood, their only advantage is high breakdown voltage. I wonder why Capehart used them? A coupla kV on the changer motor? :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321731 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Building a web page Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 01:36:49 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <94mNe.7434$Wi6.5988@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <6TROe.302367$xm3.129821@attbi_s21> In "Gary Tayman" writes: >When I was there, I saw something more interesting -- on the other side, >near the front, there were some other boxes, including some gizmos that >looked almost like a console radio, but were black and nickel -- and >appeared to be some sort of medical instruments. Don't know what they are, >and I'm not sure I want to know; they might keep me awake at night! Send that suff my way! I'm awake at night anyway. :) I'm always looking for very early (1900, teen's) Wappler, Betz, etc. Here's some recent additions to the decor: http://www.gothicdigital.com/thompson/small/ http://www.gothicdigital.com/wappler/ The second set of (huge, sorry) pictures is of, basically, a voltmeter. The scale on the side reads in centimeters of spark and kilovolts. This one goes up to 300KV. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321732 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Majestic 90 tuning cap!!!! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 21:50:28 -0400 radioconnection (at) juno.com " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:W1NQe.1841$mH.417@fed1read07... > Anyone parting out a Majestic 90 chassis with a GOOD tuning > cap, free of pot metal rot? > > Pete > > Article: 321733 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Building a web page Message-ID: References: <94mNe.7434$Wi6.5988@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <6TROe.302367$xm3.129821@attbi_s21> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 02:18:01 GMT Tim, I actually have one of those antique "medical gadgets". It's an oaken box that holds an induction coil, with space for a dry cell or two. Some sort of device to vary the output. The components mount on a Bakelite panel that sits on ledge within the box. If you want to know more, I could take a digital pic once I'm back home from my current stint at work. Gordon Richmond Article: 321734 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "MIT" References: Subject: Re: Need Info on Inca Transformers Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 02:19:03 GMT little tough to answer with a spam sucks address.i have limited info on several lines. michael wrote in message news:CnJQe.2341$UI.1587@okepread05... |I have a bunch of really old Inca transformers which were made by Phelps | Dodge. I would like to identify these. Does anybody have an Inca Catalog?? | | Thanks, | | Dave Article: 321735 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Sparton model 65 parts needed Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 20:30:44 -0600 Message-ID: <12362-4313C4D4-1496@storefull-3334.bay.webtv.net> I have a Sparton model 65 with a good solid case ,good grill cloth etc. that is missing the speaker and a chassis that is missing a few parts. Any one have a chasis and speaker for this radio or need a case? Lets deal. DON AC7PD Article: 321736 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Strange Russian Recording Format ? Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 02:45:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "Clive" writes: > Has anyone ever seen a 2" tape audio recording format ? Wish I had >taken a photo of it at the time. It certainly exists as a pro audio format, but it's hardly a consumer item. The first practical video recorders also used 2" wide tape, but, again, these were not a home format. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321737 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Another Rochester report. From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <11h778i42shehf0@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 02:54:22 GMT In article , kc4yoy@spam.carolina.rr.com says... > > >I'll say it again, AT LEAST THEY'RE TRYING! > >Ron > My Guess... Too Little.. Too Late............ and what is it about WEEKEND as in Saturday Sunday that these people that run these shows do NOT understand?........ NOt a problem...... Kutztown... they understand... and John k9uwa Article: 321738 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Building a web page Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 02:54:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <94mNe.7434$Wi6.5988@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <6TROe.302367$xm3.129821@attbi_s21> In Gordon Richmond writes: >I actually have one of those antique "medical gadgets". It's an oaken >box that holds an induction coil, with space for a dry cell or two. >Some sort of device to vary the output. The components mount on a >Bakelite panel that sits on ledge within the box. Hi Gordon, Thanks for thinking of me! I should've been more specific, though. What I'm after are the big, very early floor-standing machines that use wall current. Lots of it. :) A friend has a complete Wappler X-ray set from, I'd guess, the 1910's. Wicked. Huge control console that's got lots of hooded meters and voltage controllers that are akin to gearshifts. Wild machine. Any of the wall-hung units with glass doors and marble plates get my attention, too. Can you say "shipping headache"? :) I don't know why I can't be happy collecting stamps. Ya put 'em in an envelope, cheap shipping, no capacitors to replace... :) :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321739 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: found in ma's basement From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1124766349.900785.144210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFPe.67341$084.15139@attbi_s22> <8%hQe.1355$4P5.395@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 03:03:54 GMT In article , tim@panix.com says... > > >I wonder >why Capehart used them? A coupla kV on the changer motor? :) > >-- > Tim Mullen the last one of those 400 whatever models that I did... the thing blew the hell out of a couple of brand new 450 volt caps.... they DO run some voltage on the output toobes!.. series up a couple of high Mfd 450's for 900 and it held up fine... John k9uwa Article: 321740 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <4310d5cb$0$22949$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net> <431339d3$0$97135$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> <431398af$0$1316$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> Subject: Re: ISO Schematic for Philips 343A Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 03:10:42 GMT Martin, Wow! You seem to know this radio well. I will have to better answer your specifics tomorrow when I get back to the chassis. It does have a round voltage selector that covers only the 200 volt range. BTW is there a method of freeing the dial cord other than unwrapping the dial indicator? Thanks, Paul. "Martin Crossley" wrote in message news:431398af$0$1316$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net... > Paul P wrote: >> Marin, >> >> It looks like it will help. There are three bands and the power >> transformer has some intriguing taps on the schematic. Hopefully a >> 120 vac primary tap. >> >> I will have to pull the chassis and compare the schematic to the >> underside. Do you have the component value list (pg 103)? If you do >> would you please send or post it. >> >> Thank you for posting the schematic and your time, >> Paul. >> >> paul at ppinyot REMOVE dot com >> >> > You're most welcome. > Oops! > Sorry I missed p103.I left the book near my friend's computer. > I have another of both here, but the computer's not set up to do > the compression to DJVU yet and my ISP's server won't accept a > 500K jpeg, as I found out today... > Meanwhile, a short interlude and a brief interrogation... > Does it have an EZ40 and big tarry mains transformer on > the RHS of chassis, looking from the back, and a mains lead > coded red&black, in which case you're likely to find 110V & > 127V tappings on the voltage selector "carousel" disc, > or same lead and a UY41 rectifier and a sweaty dropper, > in which case it's possibly a 200-240V only set, > but can be easily modified to 120V > or an AZ41 and American style black fig.8 "zip" lead, > in which case it may be 220V only? > If it is a British AC-only set, > (Also sold to Welsh-speakers, BTW:) ! ) > Does the LH knob control a 5-position switch or > a pot with lever underneath (for gramophone/radio)? > the usual problems are O/C output transformer primary, > leaky (boiling tar after a few minutes!) capacitor across half the HT > secondary, > usually in a cardboard clip attached to a screw of the o/p Xformer, > leaky grid-coupling capacitor to the EL41, > tarnished valve pins, the odd other leaky cap., but they're not usually > too bad. > Oh, I won't mention the string! > Martin. > Article: 321741 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Over Kill.... (test equipment) From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 03:11:29 GMT In article , jangus@socal.rr.com says... > > >A bit of overkill I suppose for a signal generator. >Nice to be able to tell someone that their IF strip is >aligned to 455 KHz +/- 1/10 Hz. > >Jeff I run an HP-8640-B with a downconverter on it for stuff below 450 Khz... and yes when someone buys a radio with pushbuttons... I ask them for 6 frequencies spread out a bit to set the buttons to!.. John k9uwa Article: 321742 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: found in ma's basement Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 03:12:49 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1124766349.900785.144210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFPe.67341$084.15139@attbi_s22> <8%hQe.1355$4P5.395@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> In k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) writes: [Capeharts] >the last one of those 400 whatever models that I did... the thing blew >the hell out of a couple of brand new 450 volt caps.... they DO run >some voltage on the output toobes!.. >series up a couple of high Mfd 450's for 900 and it held up fine... Yowza. What were they using as outputs? I thought these things predated 6L6's? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321743 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: Over Kill.... (test equipment) Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2005 22:12:27 -0500 Message-ID: <3uf7h19c3ovsinrgt26deebv31ln7pr9cs@4ax.com> References: <719fd0cbc5bf5b2371f9ae6f69d0567e@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <1751efbf6e59a736a4e77d66b4eb0218@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:40:23 +0200 "Pete_O" wrote: >If anyone wants the CORRECT way to eliminate 75% of the problems in less >than 5 minutes with the 8660/86601A combination, contact me at >"lawnweeds100@yahoo.com" The 8660 with the 86603 or 86602 have a >different series of problems that can be solved in 15 minutes. Why not just post it here? Most of us will never see one of these, but we can still appreciate good troubleshooting and creative/insightful repair techniques. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 321744 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Another Rochester report. References: <11h778i42shehf0@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <_aQQe.108269$1J2.948641@twister.southeast.rr.com> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 03:15:06 GMT John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > > NOt a problem...... Kutztown... they understand... and > Kutztown is a flea market, if that's all you want out of it, then that's what you get. Rochester is a CONFERENCE, they have forums with historical programing, they have equipment contest, they have auctions, luncheons, banquets... and a flea market. Ron Article: 321745 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <719fd0cbc5bf5b2371f9ae6f69d0567e@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <1751efbf6e59a736a4e77d66b4eb0218@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <3uf7h19c3ovsinrgt26deebv31ln7pr9cs@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Over Kill.... (test equipment) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 04:40:08 GMT I second that. I like a good trouble-shooting story. PP. "Jim Adney" wrote in message news:3uf7h19c3ovsinrgt26deebv31ln7pr9cs@4ax.com... > On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:40:23 +0200 "Pete_O" > wrote: > >>If anyone wants the CORRECT way to eliminate 75% of the problems in less >>than 5 minutes with the 8660/86601A combination, contact me at >>"lawnweeds100@yahoo.com" The 8660 with the 86603 or 86602 have a >>different series of problems that can be solved in 15 minutes. > > Why not just post it here? Most of us will never see one of these, but > we can still appreciate good troubleshooting and creative/insightful > repair techniques. > > - > ----------------------------------------------- > Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org > Madison, WI 53711 USA > ----------------------------------------------- Article: 321746 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: TRUCE! References: <9Ludnc4omqFzj5LeRVn-hA@comcast.com> <1125084371.202865.187080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1125205374.527721.178560@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125211009.699829.240210@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1125227551.352152.220900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125274069.317165.257850@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 05:03:52 GMT Robert Mozeleski wrote: > Pete you are the lowlife here, god.You are the person who is never wrong, > was brought up the only proper way to be brought up. So go kiss off. Snob, > lowlife. Geeze Bob, who shit in your oatmeal this morning? Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321747 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: Re: Crosley D-25 with clearcoat Message-ID: References: <0es4h1l4dilhpmki6fvnmamiftl681f27f@4ax.com> <1125376873.958059.152470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 06:20:40 GMT >phil >it looks good, just like the repos. >sorry but you should have tried to match the chartuse color. >the bezels can be replated aes sells a kit. >i have had good results with this kit. takes a lot of work to prep. >the surface . >bill yes I considered the color, and I even have that color mixed because it is the same color as my 66 volvo ( paint code 91) But I liked the color of this, and the cheratruse ones do seem more common. it does look like a repro, I admit. :) phil Article: 321748 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete KE9OA" References: <719fd0cbc5bf5b2371f9ae6f69d0567e@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <65KQe.6845$ct5.3722@fed1read04> Subject: Re: Over Kill.... (test equipment) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:11:43 GMT Those Wavetek units, with their discrete "modules"? Those were one of the hardest generators to work on. Pete " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:65KQe.6845$ct5.3722@fed1read04... > > "Pete_O" wrote in message > news:719fd0cbc5bf5b2371f9ae6f69d0567e@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com... >> For 20 yrs I was the senior service tech on this model at HP and did >> component level repairs on no less than 1,000 of these. It is definetly >> not something I would want on my bench knowing the frequency of repairs! >> >> One pre-repair you must do is to: UNPLUG; remove the covers, and the four >> screws holding in the "display/keyboard" section; pull it out a couple of >> inches, and remove the two tiny screws holding the DC connectors >> together; >> pull the connectors apart and put a slight "U" bend in the pins; >> reassemble. You are going to nuts in years coming with intermittent >> operation unless you do this; the female half fatigues terribly. It may >> seem chicken to "unplug" first but the low voltage supplies are still on >> the connectors with power off. -Pete O >> > > > Can't be worse than the Wavetek 300x series!! > > Peter > > Article: 321749 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Another Rochester report. From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <11h778i42shehf0@corp.supernews.com> <_aQQe.108269$1J2.948641@twister.southeast.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:39:50 GMT In article <_aQQe.108269$1J2.948641@twister.southeast.rr.com>, kc4yoy@spam.carolina.rr.com says... > > >Rochester is a CONFERENCE, they have forums with >historical programing, they have equipment contest, >they have auctions, luncheons, banquets... and a flea market. > >Ron Ron ... so is Dayton Hamfest... it is the Premier Ham Event of the Year..... ARRL National Convention... Seminars... Banquets... Luncheons ................ and 5 years ago it had 40,000 attendees.... ....... thats Forty Thousand + Attendees.............. what did they have this year?............... maybe 10K if they were lucky........... It used to be at Dayton that the only way you could get a hotel room or a flea market space was if someone DIED and WILLED it to you............ Sure sounds to me like ROchester is going the same route.... Any reason why at Kutztown that they can't have a couple of seminars and a banquet ....... is Charlotte Dying?.... NO.... is Lansing Dying?.......NO.... is Bolingbrrok alias Elgin Dying.... well we hope that they have woken up... the change to different facility helped... they have to start listening and changing more or else it too will croak... is Indiana... my own state club Dying ................ YES YES YES it is.............. the Big One in Indiana.. Kokomo this year... Friday selling from 4 to 8 PM... and Saturday! ..... Saturday was a total joke!............ Was it advertised to Joe Doe Public?.......... nope.... its like the Good Old Boys that run it are bent on making sure that the stuff is there only for them... at a time that suits them.... and they are dying!.............. John k9uwa Article: 321750 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: found in ma's basement From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1124766349.900785.144210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFPe.67341$084.15139@attbi_s22> <8%hQe.1355$4P5.395@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:43:16 GMT In article , maxbud12@XXXsigecom.net says... > > > >> Yowza. What were they using as outputs? I thought these things >> predated 6L6's? > >My '37 model uses 6L6s. The postwar uses four 2A3s. Go figure........... >Bruce > > and the rectifier tubes get going first... and the voltage goes way up until the 6L6's or 2A3's get warmed up and draw a bit of current... and the filter cap goes BANG .... same with Sparton Equasonne that has a pair of 50 tubes in it... 6L6 toobes work great at 400 + volts! ask the Guitar Amp guys!... John k9uwa Article: 321751 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: computer acts like a SW receiver References: <43135f28$0$215$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:16:44 GMT CalBubba wrote: >> First - Insure your computer has a proper ground on the power cord. > > > ** ENSURE ** There's something odd about a person named "Bubba" correcting grammer..... Article: 321752 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: computer acts like a SW receiver Message-ID: References: <43135f28$0$215$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:24:24 -0400 On 29 Aug 2005 14:19:01 -0500, CalBubba wrote: >Paul P wrote: >> "skinnysteve" wrote in message >> news:upq5h1t8c7km4ih6b7jrnlgbuesm0jdasn@4ax.com... >> >>>my computer picks up a faint china language broadcast i don't have to >>>be online for this to happen it seems to fade in and out but >>>sometines it is clearly audible is this possible i ask here because i >>>don't know where else to go thanks for any reply >> >> >> First - Insure your computer has a proper ground on the power cord. > >** ENSURE ** > > This >> may involve borrowing/buying one of the plug wire polarity/.ground testers >> (the small ones that have three lights and plug into the wall socket). >> >> Then - insure your power cord has a good ground circuit within. > >** ENSURE ** > >You insure your car. You ensure to make something certain. Assure to >verify, confirm. > >Bubba in·sure ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-shr) v. in·sured, in·sur·ing, in·sures v. tr. To provide or arrange insurance for: a company that insures homeowners and businesses. To acquire or have insurance for: insured herself against losses; insured his car for theft. To make sure, certain, or secure. See Usage Note at assure. Article: 321753 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Dana Subject: Re: Building a web page Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:35:04 -0400 Message-ID: References: <94mNe.7434$Wi6.5988@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> I will give that program a try and see how it works with my screenread program, thanks for the link. On Sat, 20 Aug 2005, John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > In article , NOT_MY_REAL@email.com says... >> >> >> The freebie version (WS_FTP LE) is still out there.... >> >> http://www.csra.net/junodj/ws_ftp32.htm >> >> Wonderful program.....There's no need for any other ftp client. >> >> -Scott >> >> > Yup thats the one I use Scott... just couldn't find the above when I > was in FL last winter.. now back to using the freebie even though > I also have the paid for version... works great! for dummies like me > and the Pro's.... > > Between WS-FTP LE and Nutscrape 4.7 Composer I don't need anything else > to make a webpage.... the one neat thing about the Composer 4.7 that they > killed in later netscape versions... when U click to add pictures etc > to this page your building.... when U save it... all the pictures are > also saved in the same location in your puter... makes the transfer with > the WS_FTP LE program super simple... > > > John > > Article: 321754 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "just me" References: <1125274539.011910.176360@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125363042.404056.128940@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125371731.044809.162060@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125402102.038824.92580@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Hurricane Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 10:40:36 -1200 "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1125402102.038824.92580@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Skippy: > > Aliquippa PA is ~335 miles west northwest of Wyncote, nearly directly > northwest of Pittsburgh. "Not far".... > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > I was just there yesterday - myself! Very true, not far from Pittsburgh at all. jm Article: 321755 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: Okay, who wants to stuff paper caps and bumblebees? Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:04:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3njarbF1q12hU1@individual.net> References: Gary Tayman wrote: > All right, > > I recall there was somebody on this list who wants old capacitors for the > purpose of restuffing. > > Not only do I have a Mopar 802 on the bench, ready to strip for > conversion, that is full of bumblebees, but yesterday I drove up to Palm > Harbor to visit Dan Schulz (of Antique Automobile Radio, maker of the > stereo PCB's and all > those solid state vibrators). I came home with a trunkload of car radios, > mainly from 57 Chevy's and 55-59 Chevy trucks. All of them are manual > radios -- no pushbutton types. > > All of these radios, once I unload the trunk and find a place to put them, > will be cannibalized for parts. My single solitary purpose for getting > these is for the volume controls -- I come across so many bad ones, and > the pads in these can be substituted easily -- and for conversion, it > doesn't > matter what the value is. I'll probably pick off a few IF's, trimmers, > bezels, and of course keep the tubes. The 12 volt transformers won't get > thrown away; people love these for converting their 6 volt radios to 12 > volts. I don't do this personally, but I can sell them to anyone who > does. > > Once picked apart, the rest will get tossed. However, I'm certainly > willing > to cut out all of those paper caps and put them in a box. In short order > I should have enough to keep somebody very busy for awhile! > > If interested, please let me know. > > i would like a couple of those radios for myself. what do you want for two of them. i would like to rebuild them. -- The Shadow Knows Article: 321756 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:44:21 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: European Radios and High B+ References: Message-ID: David Stinson wrote: > Does anyone know why these consumer set designs > trended towards high levels of B+? > Most of these run 250, even 300+ volts > on miniature tubes, running them right up > to the design current limits. > That's rough on these "minimal" circuits. > They run pretty well on reduced B+. > I wonder if they all took their designs > from the same guy, who liked things "hot." > > Dave S. Don't know about your particular set but many transformerless designs made little or no change when selecting between 120 and 240 other than the filament voltage. Hehe...reminds me of one UK set that I had. It was set up for 220-240 but actual played fairly well at 120 with everything running at half voltage. -Bill Article: 321757 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:47:41 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: computer acts like a SW receiver References: <43135f28$0$215$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Message-ID: <9f168$43147fa0$4232bd3d$19100@COQUI.NET> David Stinson wrote: > CalBubba wrote: > >>> First - Insure your computer has a proper ground on the power cord. >> >> >> >> ** ENSURE ** > > > There's something odd about a person named "Bubba" > correcting grammer..... What is "grammer"? You must mean "grammar", Dave. :) -Bill Article: 321758 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:52:14 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: found in ma's basement References: <1124766349.900785.144210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFPe.67341$084.15139@attbi_s22> <8%hQe.1355$4P5.395@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Bruce Mercer wrote: >> > > John, > when you series those caps do you need to use "smoothing resistors' on each > cap? > I've heard yes and no. Also, when only one 81 is used do you still need to > series a couple > caps? I know on a pair of them you should...like on my Victor 9-16 with one > 50 output. > Tnx. > > Bruce Modern caps are quite consistent in production and don't really demand "equalizing" resistors like older caps did. Its difficult to guess how their characteristics might change in 20 years so its probably not a bad idea to use 'em if you got 'em. -Bill Article: 321759 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: computer acts like a SW receiver Date: 30 Aug 2005 10:53:02 -0500 Message-ID: <43148041$0$179$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: <43135f28$0$215$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> David Stinson wrote: > CalBubba wrote: > >>> First - Insure your computer has a proper ground on the power cord. >> >> >> >> ** ENSURE ** > > > There's something odd about a person named "Bubba" > correcting grammer..... Yeah, I know. But, David, all Bubbas are not created equal. Other Bubbas may be different. Welcome to the New World Order of Bubbas. I am CalBubba: the Bubba of the West! CalBubba Article: 321760 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: computer acts like a SW receiver Date: 30 Aug 2005 11:09:04 -0500 Message-ID: <4314843c$0$181$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: <43135f28$0$215$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Beerbarrel wrote: > On 29 Aug 2005 14:19:01 -0500, CalBubba > wrote: > > >>Paul P wrote: >> >>>"skinnysteve" wrote in message >>>news:upq5h1t8c7km4ih6b7jrnlgbuesm0jdasn@4ax.com... >>> >>> >>>>my computer picks up a faint china language broadcast i don't have to >>>>be online for this to happen it seems to fade in and out but >>>>sometines it is clearly audible is this possible i ask here because i >>>>don't know where else to go thanks for any reply >>> >>> >>>First - Insure your computer has a proper ground on the power cord. >> >>** ENSURE ** >> >> This >> >>>may involve borrowing/buying one of the plug wire polarity/.ground testers >>>(the small ones that have three lights and plug into the wall socket). >>> >>>Then - insure your power cord has a good ground circuit within. >> >>** ENSURE ** >> >>You insure your car. You ensure to make something certain. Assure to >>verify, confirm. >> >>Bubba > > > > in·sure ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-shr) > v. in·sured, in·sur·ing, in·sures > v. tr. > > To provide or arrange insurance for: a company that insures homeowners > and businesses. > To acquire or have insurance for: insured herself against losses; > insured his car for theft. > To make sure, certain, or secure. See Usage Note at assure. > I like to keep definitions distinct. This makes things clear. I don't know what dictionary you've got, but dictionaries differ; you may find a different dictionary with the definitions stricter (the way that I prefer). In fact, my own dictionary agrees pretty much with the definintions that you quoted (what's the note say?). Unfortunately, yeah, it's become fashionable lately to use "insure" instead of "ensure." So much so that if I were writing a dictionary today, I'd probably have to list the third meaning as you've quoted above. This is because dictionaries follow common usage, not the opposite, and that's how it should be. The dictionary reflects what is. We've become sloppy in our use of "insure." Why not "ensure" your car? See how strange that looks? It's like the sloppiness of using apostrophes for plural's (like I just did). No, we're not becoming universally-sloppy talkers and writers, just with certain words and punctuations. From Wiktionary: "...to promise with emphasis." Example: "He insured me that there would be no further delays." (Again, reflecting common usage.) Reminds me of the way that young women all over the country have gotten in the habit of gutteralizing the ends of sentences. Maybe I should get used to this. Grrr. Bubba Bubba Article: 321761 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: found in ma's basement From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1124766349.900785.144210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFPe.67341$084.15139@attbi_s22> <8%hQe.1355$4P5.395@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:32:29 GMT In article , maxbud12@XXXsigecom.net says... > > > >> >John, >when you series those caps do you need to use "smoothing resistors' on each >cap? >I've heard yes and no. Also, when only one 81 is used do you still need to >series a couple >caps? I know on a pair of them you should...like on my Victor 9-16 with one >50 output. >Tnx. > >Bruce > > Well if you were pushing the limit of the series caps... 450 + 450 = 900 volts... so if your voltage was up around 800 or so... maybe you might want the resistors.. and a small cap also across each of the litics... but the voltage on these things goes to maybe 550 tops or so... not needed John k9uwa Article: 321762 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: computer acts like a SW receiver Message-ID: References: <43135f28$0$215$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <4314843c$0$181$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:39:51 -0400 On 30 Aug 2005 11:09:04 -0500, CalBubba wrote: >Beerbarrel wrote: >> On 29 Aug 2005 14:19:01 -0500, CalBubba >> wrote: >> >> >>>Paul P wrote: >>> >>>>"skinnysteve" wrote in message >>>>news:upq5h1t8c7km4ih6b7jrnlgbuesm0jdasn@4ax.com... >>>> >>>> >>>>>my computer picks up a faint china language broadcast i don't have to >>>>>be online for this to happen it seems to fade in and out but >>>>>sometines it is clearly audible is this possible i ask here because i >>>>>don't know where else to go thanks for any reply >>>> >>>> >>>>First - Insure your computer has a proper ground on the power cord. >>> >>>** ENSURE ** >>> >>> This >>> >>>>may involve borrowing/buying one of the plug wire polarity/.ground testers >>>>(the small ones that have three lights and plug into the wall socket). >>>> >>>>Then - insure your power cord has a good ground circuit within. >>> >>>** ENSURE ** >>> >>>You insure your car. You ensure to make something certain. Assure to >>>verify, confirm. >>> >>>Bubba >> >> >> >> in·sure ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-shr) >> v. in·sured, in·sur·ing, in·sures >> v. tr. >> >> To provide or arrange insurance for: a company that insures homeowners >> and businesses. >> To acquire or have insurance for: insured herself against losses; >> insured his car for theft. >> To make sure, certain, or secure. See Usage Note at assure. >> > >I like to keep definitions distinct. This makes things clear. I don't >know what dictionary you've got, but dictionaries differ; you may find a >different dictionary with the definitions stricter (the way that I >prefer). In fact, my own dictionary agrees pretty much with the >definintions that you quoted (what's the note say?). > >Unfortunately, yeah, it's become fashionable lately to use "insure" >instead of "ensure." So much so that if I were writing a dictionary >today, I'd probably have to list the third meaning as you've quoted >above. This is because dictionaries follow common usage, not the >opposite, and that's how it should be. The dictionary reflects what is. > >We've become sloppy in our use of "insure." Why not "ensure" your car? >See how strange that looks? It's like the sloppiness of using >apostrophes for plural's (like I just did). No, we're not becoming >universally-sloppy talkers and writers, just with certain words and >punctuations. > > From Wiktionary: "...to promise with emphasis." >Example: "He insured me that there would be no further delays." >(Again, reflecting common usage.) > >Reminds me of the way that young women all over the country have gotten >in the habit of gutteralizing the ends of sentences. > >Maybe I should get used to this. Grrr. > >Bubba > > > > >Bubba That was from dictionary.com. I was just trying to show that either could be used but what you say is actually the most correct form. The older you get the words just run together so why bother eh? Article: 321763 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Joe L." Subject: Re: computer acts like a SW receiver References: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:55:18 -0500 Message-ID: In article , skinnysteve wrote: > > thanks for all the replys, i don't hear a thing this morning, i live > in southren new england. Shortwave radio propagation has been weird the last week. Maybe the ionosphere's "skip zone" has been shorter than usual and allowed those strong signals from Sackville NB to really blast into your location. Just a wild guess. Radio Canada Int'l has been much weaker than usual here in the Midwest. -- Joe Article: 321764 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Question on cloth electrical tape References: <1125420745.959321.205010@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:08:09 GMT Fred wrote: > When restoring / rebuilding wire bundles, do people use cloth > electrical tape or do they simply go with the plastic replacement > common today. Are there modern cloth electrical tape replacements? I > saw Scotch 69 Glass Cloth Electrical tape, but I'm not sure if it's > available in black. It's not the same thing. It is a fiberglass based tape. Actual friction tape is a cotton based tape. #1755 cotton friction tape is designed to provide abrasion protection in wire and cable splices as well as an over wrap for mechanical protection. Surprisingly enough, the friction tape is more stable than the plastic tape. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321765 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Question on Precision 10-12 Tube Tester References: <1125420386.304978.126700@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:12:00 GMT Depends on what you mean by good enough. It is good enough to tell if the tubes are completely trashed. The best test of a tube is in circuit. It either works or it doesn't. It's kind of like paternity testing. A $20 blood test will show you probably are not the father. A $500 HLA blood test will establish that you ARE the father (if necessary.) Jeff Fred wrote: > Is the Precision 10-12 Tube Tester 'good enough' for testing tubes like > the 6L6, 12Ax7, 5879, 5U4, and other tubes for my jukebox? > -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321766 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:13:50 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: European Radios and High B+ References: <1125421473.645666.231240@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: arc5@ix.netcom.com wrote: > Bill, what do you think of the "nice outside, rat's-nest inside" > observation? I know you collect Euro-radios as well. Is this > "normal," or do I just pick the "ugly ducklings?" > Dave S. > I can't say with any great breadth of experience...but if its a Philips its almost guaranteed to look like a manufacturing train wreck. Otoh, every other European set I've dealt with has been nicely constructed. Different techniques, yes, but not shabby. I imagine there's as many exceptions to my observations as you would find in American-made radios. -Bill Article: 321767 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Okay, who wants to stuff paper caps and bumblebees? Message-ID: References: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:23:43 -0400 I'll take em if you don't have any other takers Gary. Tracy On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 13:47:12 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >All right, > >I recall there was somebody on this list who wants old capacitors for the >purpose of restuffing. > >Not only do I have a Mopar 802 on the bench, ready to strip for conversion, >that is full of bumblebees, but yesterday I drove up to Palm Harbor to visit >Dan Schulz (of Antique Automobile Radio, maker of the stereo PCB's and all >those solid state vibrators). I came home with a trunkload of car radios, >mainly from 57 Chevy's and 55-59 Chevy trucks. All of them are manual >radios -- no pushbutton types. > >All of these radios, once I unload the trunk and find a place to put them, >will be cannibalized for parts. My single solitary purpose for getting >these is for the volume controls -- I come across so many bad ones, and the >pads in these can be substituted easily -- and for conversion, it doesn't >matter what the value is. I'll probably pick off a few IF's, trimmers, >bezels, and of course keep the tubes. The 12 volt transformers won't get >thrown away; people love these for converting their 6 volt radios to 12 >volts. I don't do this personally, but I can sell them to anyone who does. > >Once picked apart, the rest will get tossed. However, I'm certainly willing >to cut out all of those paper caps and put them in a box. In short order I >should have enough to keep somebody very busy for awhile! > >If interested, please let me know. Article: 321768 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: HP 8660 Synthesizer servicing- Official, Easy Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:17:44 +0200 Message-ID: Bear with me, I don’t have any manuals, and I haven’t touched an 8660 in 11 years. HP 8660 A,B, C, D Mainframe adjustments (official service, not BS) You will need: 500MHz freq counter; time (with experience) less than 2 minutes Previously I said to bend the DC connector pins to the Digital Control Unit- if you haven’t done this yet, do it first. Arcing in this connector sends all sorts of noise throughout the digital section causing major intermittents. With the top cover removed from the 8660A, B, C, or D locate the large aluminum covered assembly (8 x 8 inches?) behind the digital control unit. This is where most of your problems will come from- primarily alignment associated. On the rear of this assembly are perhaps 6 SMB connectors. Pull off the 100MHZ output cable and attach a counter to the assembly (not the cable). The freq should be exactly 100 MHz; with counter still connected, slide the rear panel switch to EXT input; the 100 MHz should now be somewhere off freq since there is now no time base. With an insulated fiber adjustment tool, adjusts the “100MHz” adjustment cap to as close to 100 MHz +/- 5KHz. (not extremely critical). Now slide the rear panel REFERENCE switch back to INT and the 100MHz signal should be locked at exactly 100MHz. Only with a spectrum analyzer should you do the 500MHz peaking adjustments; if you think you can peak it with a power meter it will peak at 400MHz and the 86601A plug-in won’t work! 350-450MHz Oscillator (major failure area! Adjustment corrected!) If you have an 86602 or 86603, this oscillator will go only 360-450MHz. Flip the latch on the rear of the 100MHz assembly and flip up the assembly exposing the underside. Lock your counter timebase to the mainframe. Connect a counter to the 350-450MHz OUTPUT connector; it should read exactly 450MHz with the output freq programmed for 0MHz. One of the connectors on the rear of this oscillator is the phase lock correction- I don’t recall its title- disconnect one at a time until the freq goes off (up to 4MHz!). IF THE FREQ DOES GO OFF BY OVER 1MHZ, THIS IE A PROBLEM/INTERMITTENT CIRCUIT ABOUT TO BE FIXED. There is a string of ten pots visible here and I believe that the 450MHz pot is the “0” pot. This pot should set the 0MHz/450MHz oscillator to 450MHz +/-50KHz. Punch in 10MHz Step Up (you should now be at 10MHz on the display). Adjust the next pot, probably “1” for 440MHz; StepUp again, and you are at 20MHz and adjust the “2” pot for 430MHz, etc. If you have an 86601A Plug In, you will go right on to 100MHz/350MHz; if you have an 86602 or 86603 Plug-In, it will only go to 90MHz/360MHz and you will leave the “10” pot UNTOUCHED. Don’t forget to reattach the phase locking cable. At his point 75% of your mainframe problems should be gone (unless you have an 8660B). The only remaining area to possibly check if you have frequency problems is the SL (summing loops) and N oscillator sections. To test ALL of these oscillators simultaneously, leave your 100MHz/500MHz/350-450MHz section lifted up. Now you will see the mother board for the circuits that change increments of less than 10MHz. Locate the two boards that cross behind the digital section; immediately behind them and often buried under the mass of wires is a test point, SL1. Lock your counter time base to the counter and connect the counter to this point ( 0dBm?- not important); set the control freq to output 0MHz and the SL1 freq should be exactly 30MHz; Step Up 1.111111MHz and the SL1 osc should drop by that amount +/- one count. Step right on up to 9.999999MHz watching the counter at each step. If it’s off my more than one count, contact me (lawnweeds100@yahoo.com) and we will go at it from there. For those with 86602 and 86603 plug ins, another instruction will follow shortly. For those with an 8660B, it’s almost not worth it bothering to service- the entire unit is a disaster. As for the power supply, it is not uncommon for the rectifiers to short, fusing the lands of the supply board (often UNDER the filter caps so remove them to look if necessary); also the higher current relay contacts burn and become open- there are unused contacts within those relays and rewiring to those contacts is a good solution. Personally I use an HP 8640B. -Pete O. Article: 321769 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: Subject: Re: European Radios and High B+ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:16:13 GMT John Stone wrote: > I know you're sort of joking, but why single out union labor? Do you > think the people who built those radios designed the layout and > specified the parts? I'd say that was the responsibility of the > company management, much less likely to be unionized. > As for being rat's nests, that depends on the brand. Some of the > lesser brands and cheaper models might be marginal. But have a look > inside a high end SABA, Grundig or Telefunken, and the build quality > is excellent. I don't agree totally on this and, otoh, i partially agree with David. When talking about european radios remember that there so many brands to see that Saba, Grunding and Telefunken are only a few part of the 'market'. Each state had lot of brands, some little 'craftsman' working some are good and some others were build with cheap parts and also with uncommon circuit design that often was not working as expected if not well built (just and example the 'sensivity control' acting into IF transformers). Generally speaking Europe didn't had a great past about radios like US, this makes a great difference. > This is not my experience, and I've worked on these by the hundreds. > 250-300 is what comes off the rectifier, but I've seldom seen > voltages that high on the tubes themselves. Typically the RF and IF > tubes run from a low of 135 to a high of about 230. Output tubes > typically sit at around 240-280 on the plate, but this is well within > the operating limits of an EL84 or even an EL95. Higher than a line > rectified American set for sure, but hardly excessive. What you're stating could be considered for late radios but early models using P sockets (and the 'bastard' type with octal socket and P bulb) were working at high voltages, easy to remember 4 Volt filament tubes ('A' series) with AZ1 rectifier (500V plate) delivering 350 to 400V or, in lot of others, an AZ2. And i'm not considering radios with telefunken 'WE' tubes. European radios are not ONLY '50 Saba, Grundig and Telefunken.. [cut] > Remember that these sets were designed at 110volt mains. Wrong. Since '30 lot of Eu radios had multivoltage input >from 110 to 240V, some to 280. Also, mains was different >from 110 to 125 according to local company. Radios were designed first from the secondary to the final output and then, according to the market place, the primary transformer. Sometimes you can see primary winding starting from 125V because where the set was destinated to be sold the 110 was absent. If this appears strange, figure that the Italian GELOSO sold the same set with different dial scale according if the set was going to be sold in the north, south, or 'EXPORT ONLY', the names on the dials were different. > So you can > typically see 10-15% higher voltages than specified given the mains > voltages today. Since all of these sets are basically in need of new > rectifiers anyway, the smart thing to do is to use a dropping > resistor value off the bridge that will bring the voltages within the > normal spec. Some difference can be noticed because the old 125 was near about 120-122 during the day, today our mains is the 10% over the nominal 220V, this cause the difference. In '30 and '40 Eu sets the rectifier often needs to be replaced because of the high voltage applied to cheap brands tubes. -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 321770 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Okay, who wants to stuff paper caps and bumblebees? Message-ID: <2z3Re.1900$mH.37@fed1read07> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:44:44 -0400 "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:ArZQe.2334$4P5.1410@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > All right, > > I recall there was somebody on this list who wants old capacitors for the > purpose of restuffing. > Gary I would like some of the wax caps for restuffing. Peter Article: 321771 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dan Rivera" Subject: Transoceanic Price List Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:14:52 -0700 Hello, I have a question about Transoceanic Price Lists. Is there one out there online or book that I can buy that gives me prices on these old shortwave radios? Dan Article: 321772 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ianto Subject: Re: Question on cloth electrical tape Message-ID: <61j9h1h8091g3b8gh9rsu68ntb5dv3htj7@4ax.com> References: <1125420745.959321.205010@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 16:33:02 -0500 On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:48:25 GMT, philsvintageradios wrote: > > > >On 30 Aug 2005 09:52:25 -0700, "Fred" wrote: > >>When restoring / rebuilding wire bundles, do people use cloth >>electrical tape or do they simply go with the plastic replacement >>common today. Are there modern cloth electrical tape replacements? I >>saw Scotch 69 Glass Cloth Electrical tape, but I'm not sure if it's >>available in black. > > > >I usually use heat shrink not black tape.. where I can.. > >but I also see this fabric tape in old radios, and often wonder if >they still make it. I have a roll but it isn't very sticky anymore. >I remember all the kids I grew up with used to wrap their hockey >sticks with the stuff, maybe sports shops still carry something >similar? Any sports fans know wheather they still use fabric tape for >this? > >Phil Fabric tape for wrapping hockey sticks is readily available up here in Canada. It is available in several colours. I have a roll of black and a roll of red. The tape has a strong adhesive and is great for wrapping tool handles to improve grip. Mike Capel capel AT mts DOT net Article: 321773 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dan Rivera" References: Subject: Re: Transoceanic Price List Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:42:00 -0700 Thank you Vety Much Phil, Do you know where I can purchase this book from or if its even online? I am also thinking of starting a site dedicated to just the transoceanic radios. Maybe you would like to contribute to it? Dan "Dan Rivera" wrote in message news:l%3Re.150727$E95.145421@fed1read01... > Hello, > > I have a question about Transoceanic Price Lists. Is there one out there > online or book that I can buy that gives me prices on these old shortwave > radios? > > Dan > Article: 321774 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: computer acts like a SW receiver Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:46:39 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <43135f28$0$215$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <4314843c$0$181$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> In <4314843c$0$181$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> CalBubba writes: >Reminds me of the way that young women all over the country have gotten >in the habit of gutteralizing the ends of sentences. >Maybe I should get used to this. Grrr. Heh. I have a friend named Gerlinde. Everybody calls her "Grrr". I have no problem with women who growl. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321775 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dan Rivera" References: Subject: Re: Transoceanic Price List Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 14:52:10 -0700 Thanks Mark, I am trying to see what is good pricing for all of these good shortwave radios. As I told Phil in my previous post, I am going to start a site dedicated to these fine radios. Once it is up maybe you also can be a contributor. Dan "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:q86dnZ2dnZ1Zi6yWnZ2dnetPid6dnZ2dRVn-0J2dnZ0@comcast.com... > Not really. If you want "up to the week" pricing, look at recent sold > items > on eBay. Condition is always the key, and completness. > > Very basically, complete, "good" condition sets will bring these > numbers: > > 7G605 (first TO) $250++ > 8G005 (first postwar) $75+ > G500 $85+ > H500 $115+ > > L600, R600, T600 $100+ > Y600, A600, B600 $110+ (have front panel headphone jack) > leather versions of above 600 series, add $40 > > Royal 1000 (first transistor, AM/SW) $75+ > Royal 3000 (adds FM) $95+ > Royal 7000 $160+ > R-7000 (the last) $160+ > > Mark Oppat > > > "Dan Rivera" wrote in message > news:l%3Re.150727$E95.145421@fed1read01... >> Hello, >> >> I have a question about Transoceanic Price Lists. Is there one out there >> online or book that I can buy that gives me prices on these old shortwave >> radios? >> >> Dan >> >> >> > > > Article: 321776 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Strange Russian Recording Format ? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:53:49 -0400 "Clive" wrote in message news:deurgc$ju1$1@news.al.sw.ericsson.se... > Hi all, > > Recently whilst visiting Tallinn in Estonia and the rather excellent > museum on its Soviet occupation. One display focused on Soviet era consumer > items. One item was what looked like a 1960s' audio recorder which seemed to > be using 2" tape, the reels were quite small, about 4 inches diameter. The > recording heads were hidden from view and it certainly seemed to be a > consumer item, not an industry format. I am not sure what the head > arrangement would have been..... > > Has anyone ever seen a 2" tape audio recording format ? Wish I had > taken a photo of it at the time. > > //Clive. Yes. We used to run banks of Soundscriber machines to record dispatch and radio channels before going to a multitrack Maganasync recorder. The Soundscribers used a wide tape (2" or 3" if I recall) and used a rotating head that wrote diagonal tracks across the width of the tape. The objective was long recording time (24 hours). Perhaps the Russian machine used a similar technology? Pete > Article: 321777 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: Transoceanic Price List Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:28:02 GMT "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:q86dnZ2dnZ1Zi6yWnZ2dnetPid6dnZ2dRVn-0J2dnZ0@comcast.com... > L600, R600, T600 $100+ > Y600, A600, B600 $110+ (have front panel headphone jack) > leather versions of above 600 series, add $40 > Mark Oppat The R600 also has the front panel headphone jack. Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY Article: 321778 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: <4310d5cb$0$22949$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net> <431339d3$0$97135$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> <431398af$0$1316$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> Subject: Re: ISO Schematic for Philips 343A Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 00:02:56 +0100 Message-ID: <4314e604$0$17501$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net> Paul P wrote: > Martin, > > Wow! You seem to know this radio well. I will have to better answer > your specifics tomorrow when I get back to the chassis. It does have > a round voltage selector that covers only the 200 volt range. > > BTW is there a method of freeing the dial cord other than unwrapping > the dial indicator? > > Thanks, > Paul. > Erm, well, I don't know that particular model, as you can tell from the questions, but I am familiar with most of the various chassis variants in 1950s British Philipses & Stellas. Thinking a bit more, the "A" in the model suggests that it's an AC-only set, and only having 200-245? tappings suggests that it's mid-late 50s, not like a 341A, more like a 353A which is an AM/FM model, EZ80 rectifier, pictures here: http://www.rusttico.com/rad1.htm and http://www.radiovs.co.uk/Philips_353a.htm Yes, you're right about the pointer, if it's not clamped by a screw, it just has the string twisted around it. A crochet hook is handy. Martin. Article: 321779 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: <1125421271.227122.211790@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Phono: English "Regentone" Turntable Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 00:12:07 +0100 Message-ID: <4314e7f1$0$97106$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> arc5@ix.netcom.com wrote: > My latest Euro-Radio is an English "Regentone" multiband > with turn table. It had a jumper select to move it from > the original 220 volts to 110 volts. > I've got the radio up and it sounds very nice. > It has a BSR "Majestic" turn table- > pretty, ivory colored thing. > I haven't tried it, and removed it from the case for now. > The motor is does not appear voltage-selectable, so > is likely 220 volts, and 50-cycle as well. > Can this turntable be converted? > Or should I just mount a CD deck in the space > and donate the BSR table to a Brit member? > > Thanks, > Dave S. I'm surprised it was set to 220V, maybe it was exported to Europe from England? What sort of plug did it have? It's worth a look underneath the turntable chassis: The motor may well have a terminal box combined with a switch, with a pair of links which can be changed for 120V, but, yes, it'll be 50Hz.The capstan could probably be machined down in a lathe, if a replacement can't be found. Martin. Article: 321780 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: Phono: English "Regentone" Turntable Date: 30 Aug 2005 18:23:04 -0500 Message-ID: <4314e9ca$0$244$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: <1125421271.227122.211790@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> arc5@ix.netcom.com wrote: > My latest Euro-Radio is an English "Regentone" multiband > with turn table. It had a jumper select to move it from > the original 220 volts to 110 volts. > I've got the radio up and it sounds very nice. > It has a BSR "Majestic" turn table- > pretty, ivory colored thing. > I haven't tried it, and removed it from the case for now. > The motor is does not appear voltage-selectable, so > is likely 220 volts, and 50-cycle as well. > Can this turntable be converted? > Or should I just mount a CD deck in the space > and donate the BSR table to a Brit member? > > Thanks, > Dave S. > I'll assume that the turntable is a changer that plays LPs. I'm assuming that you're in North America, so what I'd do is set the jumper for 110 (120 would be better) and play a record of known pitch: it may be set up for 60 hz drive already. If the pitch is correct, you're home free. If not, the conversionsion (other than voltage) would be with a different motor pulley (collar). In practice, there were different motor hookups, some really strange. Like, I've seen phono motors used as transformers in a few cheap players. BSR was a major international supplier of changers. If it uses a cheap 2-pole motor, I'm not sure that they paid much attention to pitch accuracy. There might not have been a smaller collar for the motor (sometimes, I think that they built up the diameter with a spring). If a 4-pole motor, a smaller collar would have been required. Bubba Article: 321781 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: <43135f28$0$215$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <4314843c$0$181$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Subject: Re: computer acts like a SW receiver Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 01:13:52 +0100 Message-ID: <4314f68b$0$1308$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> Beerbarrel wrote: > On 30 Aug 2005 11:09:04 -0500, CalBubba > wrote: > >> Beerbarrel wrote: >>> On 29 Aug 2005 14:19:01 -0500, CalBubba >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>>> Paul P wrote: >>>> >>>>> "skinnysteve" wrote in message >>>>> news:upq5h1t8c7km4ih6b7jrnlgbuesm0jdasn@4ax.com... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> my computer picks up a faint china language broadcast i don't >>>>>> have to be online for this to happen it seems to fade in and out >>>>>> but sometines it is clearly audible is this possible i ask here >>>>>> because i don't know where else to go thanks for any reply >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> First - Insure your computer has a proper ground on the power >>>>> cord. >>>> >>>> ** ENSURE ** >>>> >>>> This >>>> >>>>> may involve borrowing/buying one of the plug wire >>>>> polarity/.ground testers (the small ones that have three lights >>>>> and plug into the wall socket). >>>>> >>>>> Then - insure your power cord has a good ground circuit within. >>>> >>>> ** ENSURE ** >>>> >>>> You insure your car. You ensure to make something certain. Assure >>>> to verify, confirm. >>>> >>>> Bubba >>> >>> >>> >>> in·sure ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-shr) >>> v. in·sured, in·sur·ing, in·sures >>> v. tr. >>> >>> To provide or arrange insurance for: a company that insures >>> homeowners and businesses. >>> To acquire or have insurance for: insured herself against losses; >>> insured his car for theft. >>> To make sure, certain, or secure. See Usage Note at assure. >>> >> >> I like to keep definitions distinct. This makes things clear. I don't >> know what dictionary you've got, but dictionaries differ; you may >> find a different dictionary with the definitions stricter (the way >> that I prefer). In fact, my own dictionary agrees pretty much with >> the definintions that you quoted (what's the note say?). >> >> Unfortunately, yeah, it's become fashionable lately to use "insure" >> instead of "ensure." So much so that if I were writing a dictionary >> today, I'd probably have to list the third meaning as you've quoted >> above. This is because dictionaries follow common usage, not the >> opposite, and that's how it should be. The dictionary reflects what >> is. >> >> We've become sloppy in our use of "insure." Why not "ensure" your >> car? See how strange that looks? It's like the sloppiness of using >> apostrophes for plural's (like I just did). No, we're not becoming >> universally-sloppy talkers and writers, just with certain words and >> punctuations. >> >> From Wiktionary: "...to promise with emphasis." >> Example: "He insured me that there would be no further delays." >> (Again, reflecting common usage.) >> >> Reminds me of the way that young women all over the country have >> gotten in the habit of gutteralizing the ends of sentences. >> >> Maybe I should get used to this. Grrr. >> >> Bubba >> >> >> >> >> Bubba > > > That was from dictionary.com. I was just trying to show that either > could be used but what you say is actually the most correct form. The > older you get the words just run together so why bother eh? I'd always thought that it was only my mother tongue, English English, that kept a distinction, like with tyre (pneumatic) and tire (fatigue), metre( length) and meter (instrument), storey(floor) and story (tale), ass (mule) and arse (derriere), cheque (bank) and check(verify), programme(TV or itinerary) and program (computer ONLY), etc. Martin. Article: 321782 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" Subject: Help identify please. Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:13:34 -0230 Small wooden cased radio 14" wide 7" high 6" deep. Made in USA. My guess would be 1940s? AM broadcast band only marked in both metres and kilocycles. Very slightly torn printed list of patents is headed 1941 UTCL (I think), inside. 115 Volts, AC-DC 50-60 cycles. Is this an RCA? Tube line up 12SA7, 12SK7, 12SQ7, 50L6 and 35Z5 (all single ended octals). Single #47 dial lamp, burnt out. Electronics, plus speaker, crowded onto a small chassis 7 by 5 inches. Rest of cabinet taken up by a round metal cased electrical Hammond Clock that acts to turn on radio by completing the 115 volt in put the radio chassis. Only two front controls, vol/on-off and tuning via a broken dial cord. Small (1/2 inch, straw coloured push on knobs, look original? Two 'IF' cans; the second one is probably the IF input to the 12SQ7 detector (diode). Haven't traced out the circuit yet. No back on it but the oddest thing is that there is a metal panel that is connected as the antenna, wired to hot end of the RF input tuning coil. Never seen a metal plate antenna like that before. There is a fahenstock clip on the back of the approx. 8 by 5 inch metal plate to connect additional antenna! Metal plate secured to case by four small wood screws! Two gang variable tuning cap. (Rf and Osc!). Looks like the OP transformer, also the speaker (again damaged but repairable) have been previously worked on. Both 'replacements' are soldered heavily onto the heavy tin chassis! And looks now like the grill cloth was also changed. Apart from speaker leads wiring looks original cloth covered, also looks like original paper caps. and the original aluminium can electrolytic. And amazingly it works! haven't measured anything yet; I'd worry about any capacitor leaky from B+ to the grid of the 50L6; maybe that's why the OP transformer was replaced at some time! Wooden case has two areas of sort of straw colour canvasssy material for decorative effect. Neighbour paid $5 for it. Oh by the way the tube numbers are marked on the tube sockets and, looking >from above can be seen when a tube is removed. Any advice; long time since I actually worked on anything! Article: 321783 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1125416417.339275.168210@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Okay, who wants to stuff paper caps and bumblebees? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 00:58:28 GMT This is news to me -- something I've never heard of! My suspicion is, this is a product that they tried to build several years ago, and now they're unloading them on eBay because they didn't sell elsewhere. Dan has indeed been cleaning out the warehouse -- hence the radios I picked up. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:1125416417.339275.168210@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Gary, > > Side question - AAR has a new product out that adds an XM/MP3 interface > to the stock AM radios. He was selling the boards in bulk on eBay for > $25 apiece. > > I checked with some people on a Mustang board and there wasn't much > interest in this melding of old and new tech. > > Has there been any demand for this or is it too new to make a call? > Article: 321784 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <3njarbF1q12hU1@individual.net> Subject: Re: Okay, who wants to stuff paper caps and bumblebees? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 01:08:49 GMT Trust me, you don't want these radios. Not only are they in lousy condition, they are not desirable models. The only thing they are good for is parts. The best ones might be candidates for conversion, but remember none of these have knobs. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Radio Rambler" wrote in message news:3njarbF1q12hU1@individual.net... > Gary Tayman wrote: > >> All right, >> >> I recall there was somebody on this list who wants old capacitors for the >> purpose of restuffing. >> >> Not only do I have a Mopar 802 on the bench, ready to strip for >> conversion, that is full of bumblebees, but yesterday I drove up to Palm >> Harbor to visit Dan Schulz (of Antique Automobile Radio, maker of the >> stereo PCB's and all >> those solid state vibrators). I came home with a trunkload of car >> radios, >> mainly from 57 Chevy's and 55-59 Chevy trucks. All of them are manual >> radios -- no pushbutton types. >> >> All of these radios, once I unload the trunk and find a place to put >> them, >> will be cannibalized for parts. My single solitary purpose for getting >> these is for the volume controls -- I come across so many bad ones, and >> the pads in these can be substituted easily -- and for conversion, it >> doesn't >> matter what the value is. I'll probably pick off a few IF's, trimmers, >> bezels, and of course keep the tubes. The 12 volt transformers won't get >> thrown away; people love these for converting their 6 volt radios to 12 >> volts. I don't do this personally, but I can sell them to anyone who >> does. >> >> Once picked apart, the rest will get tossed. However, I'm certainly >> willing >> to cut out all of those paper caps and put them in a box. In short order >> I should have enough to keep somebody very busy for awhile! >> >> If interested, please let me know. >> >> > i would like a couple of those radios for myself. what do you want for two > of them. i would like to rebuild them. > -- > The Shadow Knows Article: 321785 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <43119163.1476252@news.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: Digital interference Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:27:55 -0230 Re the post on using the correct spelling. Another common misspelling is { flourcescent } light bulbs. from a peviuos post on this thread! > Fluorescent. The powder inside the tube 'fluoresces' i.e. it light ups! Yes; my speller agrees with that! It does not agree with "Flourescent". Article: 321786 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: European Radios and High B+ References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 01:15:35 GMT John Stone wrote: (many good points). Thanks for those great points, John. Perhaps I've missed some things in my restorations that are the actual cause of my concerns. I'll have another look at this latest set. Article: 321787 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: Phono: English "Regentone" Turntable References: <1125421271.227122.211790@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4314e7f1$0$97106$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 01:21:55 GMT Martin Crossley wrote: > I'm surprised it was set to 220V, maybe it was exported to Europe from > England? The caps inside were marked "Made in Britain" and "Made in England." > What sort of plug did it have? The plug had been cut off when I got the radio. > It's worth a look underneath the turntable chassis: > The motor may well have a terminal box combined with a switch, > with a pair of links which can be changed for 120V, I did look for that. Nothing I can find except two wires going into an black, square AC motor. Just my luck ;-). Article: 321788 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Over Kill.... (test equipment) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:28:54 -0400 "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:B7QQe.75487$084.8729@attbi_s22... > In article , > jangus@socal.rr.com says... > > > > > >A bit of overkill I suppose for a signal generator. > >Nice to be able to tell someone that their IF strip is > >aligned to 455 KHz +/- 1/10 Hz. > > > >Jeff > > > I run an HP-8640-B with a downconverter on it for stuff below > 450 Khz... > > and yes when someone buys a radio with pushbuttons... I ask > them for 6 frequencies spread out a bit to set the buttons to!.. > > John k9uwa > 8640B with the phaselock option has to be one of the best generators out there. I remember when the ARRL Lab got theirs many years ago. Pete Article: 321789 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: Okay, who wants to stuff paper caps and bumblebees? Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:46:27 -0400 Message-ID: <3nkgfkF1vc08U1@individual.net> References: <3njarbF1q12hU1@individual.net> Gary Tayman wrote: > Trust me, you don't want these radios. Not only are they in lousy > condition, they are not desirable models. The only thing they are good > for > is parts. The best ones might be candidates for conversion, but remember > none of these have knobs. > > i dont care if they are not "desirable" models, or the condition that it / they are in, as long as it / they are intact. around here, those type of radios are non-existant. i am particularly interested in the "55" model, but i wound not mind having a "57" model too. -- The Shadow Knows Article: 321790 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: Okay, who wants to stuff paper caps and bumblebees? Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 21:55:03 -0400 Message-ID: <3nkgvoF1vb9hU1@individual.net> References: <3njarbF1q12hU1@individual.net> <-pudnZ2dnZ2vGZ-vnZ2dnUqaiN6dnZ2dRVn-yp2dnZ0@comcast.com> Mark Oppat wrote: > > two aftermarket sets > Motorola Volumatic 395 Sams AR5 or 287-12, 1955 untested. VG cond > otherwise. > > Mark Oppat i would be interested in that motorola Article: 321791 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Crazy George" References: <1125411236.068101.101470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1125413860.571134.188340@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Tricks and Tips: Neat power cord find... Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:43:11 -0500 Message-ID: <4315117e_1@news1.prserv.net> wrote in message news:1125413860.571134.188340@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > I had no power cord. The power inlet is a 3 prong > > affair, with round male pins in a > > semi-triangular arrangement. > > I see this kind of connector fairly often, usually on test or office > equipment from the 60's or early 70's. At some point in the 70's the > "IEC line cord" used on PC's and lots of other places today caught on. > > Does this kind of connector/cord have a name? > Tim. > We used to call them early HP power cords, or round pin HP cords, and Belden calls then business machine power cords. I think Marchant or Remington Rand was the original user before HP started using them. Belden still makes them under their #17952. But I have to second Roger (Engineer)'s suggestion to convert those old equipments to IEC connectors. And, some of those Nixie Fluke DVMs had an interesting quirk. They used Signetics TTL, which is not always exactly interchangeable with industry standard TI TTL. Not all, mind you, just enough to cause misery. -- Crazy George The attglobal.net address is a SPAM trap. Please change that part to: attbiz properly formatted. Article: 321792 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dan Rivera" Subject: Transoceanic Website Message-ID: <0c8Re.150750$E95.7974@fed1read01> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:01:32 -0700 Who Here would be interested in contributing to either a website or forums strictly for transoceanic radios. I am taking a poll here to see so we can have another resource for these shortwave radios. If interest please let me know in this post. Dan Article: 321793 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: HP 8660 Synthesizer servicing- Official, Easy References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 02:08:07 GMT Pete_O wrote: > HP 8660 A,B, C, D Mainframe adjustments Thanks pete. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321794 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: HPGrn Subject: Re: Transoceanic Website Message-ID: <1g5ah1hajql9isvh2k6gqruirce6funfp0@4ax.com> References: <0c8Re.150750$E95.7974@fed1read01> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 02:30:16 GMT On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 19:01:32 -0700, "Dan Rivera" wrote: >Who Here would be interested in contributing to either a website or forums >strictly for transoceanic radios. > >I am taking a poll here to see so we can have another resource for these >shortwave radios. If interest please let me know in this post. > >Dan > What would you do different? or what information would you like to provide? http://bellsouthpwp.net/p/a/padgett46/tubedto.htm Is there any Yahoo forum? Article: 321795 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Re: Transoceanic Website References: <0c8Re.150750$E95.7974@fed1read01> Message-ID: <1K8Re.77189$084.31503@attbi_s22> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 02:37:49 GMT Dan, It would be nice. It could offer resources in one spot for reproduction owners manuals and schematics from a source I don't recall at the moment, reproductions suction cups for antenna, etc. By the way, who was it that posted quite awhile ago about the possibility of fabricating reproduction suction cups? What ever happened with the endeavor? There are a few other Transoceanic websites out there and I am sure someone will post them. I personally have a G500 and a TO 3000-1 solid state. The G500 is awaiting restoration and the TO 3000-1 is better off being a parts set as it is in rough shape. Keep us up to date on your project. Later, Bobby Dan Rivera wrote: > Who Here would be interested in contributing to either a website or forums > strictly for transoceanic radios. > > I am taking a poll here to see so we can have another resource for these > shortwave radios. If interest please let me know in this post. > > Dan > > From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Wed Aug 31 22:40:25 EDT 2005 Article: 321796 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Phono: English "Regentone" Turntable References: <1125421271.227122.211790@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 20 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 02:38:52 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1125455932 66.65.49.245 (Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:38:52 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:38:52 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newsflash.concordia.ca!News.Dal.Ca!ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca!nf3.bellglobal.com!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:321796 In article <1125421271.227122.211790@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, arc5@ix.netcom.com wrote: > Can this turntable be converted? > Or should I just mount a CD deck in the space > and donate the BSR table to a Brit member? If the turntable uses a 50 hertz motor, my suggestion would be to restore the radio part to working condition and leave the turntable in-place as is. If you want you can always connect an outboard CD player to the amplifier's "pick-up" entry. But I'm biased towards leaving such things in as much original shape as possible. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Wed Aug 31 22:40:25 EDT 2005 Article: 321797 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Tricks and Tips: Neat power cord find... References: <1125411236.068101.101470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 15 Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 03:10:27 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.245 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1125457827 66.65.49.245 (Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:10:27 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:10:27 EDT Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:321797 In article <1125411236.068101.101470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, tschw10117@aol.com wrote: > purchase. I had no power cord. The power inlet is a 3 prong affair, > with round male pins in a semi-triangular arrangement. Is the shape that of a cloverleaf? Similar to this? http://www.interpower.com/ic/images/TH1.jpg If so, I think I've seen those at Radio Shack. They're used as powercords for certain laptop computers. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 321798 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: HP 8660 Synthesizer servicing- Official, Easy Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:35:01 -0500 Message-ID: References: On Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:17:44 +0200 "Pete_O" wrote: >Bear with me, I don’t have any manuals, and I haven’t touched an 8660 in 11 >years. Thanks for the interesting post. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 321799 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: Transoceanic Website References: <0c8Re.150750$E95.7974@fed1read01> Message-ID: <9M9Re.341779$s54.168379@pd7tw2no> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 03:48:21 GMT Hi Dan, I am currently undertaking the project you have mentioned. I have restored and documented an R-520/URR, am currently working on an R-520A/URR, and have an 8G005, H500, T600, and a T600L waiting their turns for restoration and documentation. My website is way overdue for an update, but I just changed webhosts, and now have more space to use. I have found suppliers for reprint manuals, repro batteries, and limited amounts of used parts. The best forum for the transoceanics is on yahoo, a group called the transoceanic fanatic, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thetransoceanicfanatic/ there are many knowledgable people on that group. Padgett's TO site is the current "book" on transoceanics http://6007.us Good luck with your site, Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Dan Rivera wrote: > Who Here would be interested in contributing to either a website or forums > strictly for transoceanic radios. > > I am taking a poll here to see so we can have another resource for these > shortwave radios. If interest please let me know in this post. > > Dan > > -- Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Article: 321800 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: Transoceanic Website References: <0c8Re.150750$E95.7974@fed1read01> <1K8Re.77189$084.31503@attbi_s22> Message-ID: <5U9Re.341812$s54.178093@pd7tw2no> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 03:56:49 GMT If I recall correctly, it was Bill Turner who was trying to figure out a way to make new suction cups. But since he has been out of commission for a few months with a stroke, it may be a while before they become available. > By the way, who was it that posted quite awhile ago about the possibility > of fabricating reproduction suction cups? What ever happened with the endeavor? > Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Article: 321801 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Words, etc. (was Re: computer acts like a SW receiver) Date: 30 Aug 2005 23:11:02 -0500 Message-ID: <43152d2d$0$217$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: <43135f28$0$215$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <4314843c$0$181$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <4314f68b$0$1308$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> Martin Crossley wrote: > Beerbarrel wrote: > >>On 30 Aug 2005 11:09:04 -0500, CalBubba >>wrote: >> >> >>>Beerbarrel wrote: >>> >>>>On 29 Aug 2005 14:19:01 -0500, CalBubba >>>>wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>>Paul P wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>"skinnysteve" wrote in message >>>>>>news:upq5h1t8c7km4ih6b7jrnlgbuesm0jdasn@4ax.com... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>my computer picks up a faint china language broadcast i don't >>>>>>>have to be online for this to happen it seems to fade in and out >>>>>>>but sometines it is clearly audible is this possible i ask here >>>>>>>because i don't know where else to go thanks for any reply >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>First - Insure your computer has a proper ground on the power >>>>>>cord. >>>>> >>>>>** ENSURE ** >>>>> >>>>>This >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>may involve borrowing/buying one of the plug wire >>>>>>polarity/.ground testers (the small ones that have three lights >>>>>>and plug into the wall socket). >>>>>> >>>>>>Then - insure your power cord has a good ground circuit within. >>>>> >>>>>** ENSURE ** >>>>> >>>>>You insure your car. You ensure to make something certain. Assure >>>>>to verify, confirm. >>>>> >>>>>Bubba >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>in·sure ( P ) Pronunciation Key (n-shr) >>>>v. in·sured, in·sur·ing, in·sures >>>>v. tr. >>>> >>>>To provide or arrange insurance for: a company that insures >>>>homeowners and businesses. >>>>To acquire or have insurance for: insured herself against losses; >>>>insured his car for theft. >>>>To make sure, certain, or secure. See Usage Note at assure. >>>> >>> >>>I like to keep definitions distinct. This makes things clear. I don't >>>know what dictionary you've got, but dictionaries differ; you may >>>find a different dictionary with the definitions stricter (the way >>>that I prefer). In fact, my own dictionary agrees pretty much with >>>the definintions that you quoted (what's the note say?). >>> >>>Unfortunately, yeah, it's become fashionable lately to use "insure" >>>instead of "ensure." So much so that if I were writing a dictionary >>>today, I'd probably have to list the third meaning as you've quoted >>>above. This is because dictionaries follow common usage, not the >>>opposite, and that's how it should be. The dictionary reflects what >>>is. >>> >>>We've become sloppy in our use of "insure." Why not "ensure" your >>>car? See how strange that looks? It's like the sloppiness of using >>>apostrophes for plural's (like I just did). No, we're not becoming >>>universally-sloppy talkers and writers, just with certain words and >>>punctuations. >>> >>>From Wiktionary: "...to promise with emphasis." >>>Example: "He insured me that there would be no further delays." >>>(Again, reflecting common usage.) >>> >>>Reminds me of the way that young women all over the country have >>>gotten in the habit of gutteralizing the ends of sentences. >>> >>>Maybe I should get used to this. Grrr. >>> >>>Bubba >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>Bubba >> >> >>That was from dictionary.com. I was just trying to show that either >>could be used but what you say is actually the most correct form. The >>older you get the words just run together so why bother eh? > > > I'd always thought that it was only my mother tongue, English English, > that kept a distinction, like with tyre (pneumatic) and tire (fatigue), > metre( length) and meter (instrument), > storey(floor) and story (tale), ass (mule) and arse (derriere), > cheque (bank) and check(verify), > programme(TV or itinerary) and program (computer ONLY), etc. > Martin. > I like that. These distinctions eliminate vagueness and help people communicate their ideas clearly. That's what I'm after (and my concern with "ensure," "insure," and "assure." I'm glad that you pointed out these examples for these distinctions that don't exist in American English. In general, however, I think that the American traditions of technical documentation are actually clearer and more precise than most UK examples than I've read. It's something that I've observed over time. And I have no idea why we're better at it. The reasons may be quite interesting to know. Bubba Article: 321802 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Tricks and Tips: Neat power cord find... Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 13:13:57 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1125411236.068101.101470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:slrndha7t2.g9s.stephanie@home3.gordsven.com... > In article <1125411236.068101.101470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, > tschw10117@aol.com wrote: >> purchase. I had no power cord. The power inlet is a 3 prong affair, >> with round male pins in a semi-triangular arrangement. > > Is the shape that of a cloverleaf? Similar to this? > > http://www.interpower.com/ic/images/TH1.jpg > More like this one, I'm betting: http://www.electronicsurplus.com/objects/catalog/product/image/img77332.jpg http://www.electronicsurplus.com/commerce/catalog/product.jsp?product_id=77332&czuid=1125471856053 Article: 321803 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Looking for Syl Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:03:23 -0600 Message-ID: Syl...email me...I have a question about doing the web site with Trellix Ben Article: 321804 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <43135f28$0$215$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <4314843c$0$181$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <1125427476.324455.152640@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: computer acts like a SW receiver Message-ID: <1125465698.7ec9fbdf015906c13762c92548de7401@teranews> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:21:34 -0700 I would think that any engineer worthy of the title would immediately give you the correct response. Note that not all persons with a degree in engineering are worthy of the title, and there are plenty worthy of the title lacking a degree. "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1125427476.324455.152640@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >>>Maybe I should get used to this. Grrr.<< > snip >> Sometimes when I am in an evil mood, I ask (usually) kids (anyone under > 40) whether they know the difference between "accuracy" and > "precision". The answers I get are fascinating, but indicative that > common usage has them as functional equivalents. *THAT* is scary. But, > the only three individuals (outside family) who have given me correct > definitions have been a poet, an attorney and an ordained minister. A > wordsmith, a user of language as a weapon, and one who is tasked with > describing the undescribable. Fascinating. snip> > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 321805 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dan Rivera" References: <0c8Re.150750$E95.7974@fed1read01> <9M9Re.341779$s54.168379@pd7tw2no> Subject: Re: Transoceanic Website Message-ID: <1fbRe.150770$E95.139773@fed1read01> Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:29:33 -0700 Shawn, I am a webhoster as well if you need anything let me know. Iwant to get something going so that all transoceanic fanatics like me and My dad can go to the site and excahnge everything. Let me know what you need and I will be happy to help out. Dan "Shawn K" wrote in message news:9M9Re.341779$s54.168379@pd7tw2no... > Hi Dan, I am currently undertaking the project you have mentioned. I have > restored and documented an R-520/URR, am currently working on an > R-520A/URR, and have an 8G005, H500, T600, and a T600L waiting their turns > for restoration and documentation. My website is way overdue for an > update, but I just changed webhosts, and now have more space to use. I > have found suppliers for reprint manuals, repro batteries, and limited > amounts of used parts. The best forum for the transoceanics is on yahoo, a > group called the transoceanic fanatic, > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/thetransoceanicfanatic/ there are many > knowledgable people on that group. Padgett's TO site is the current "book" > on transoceanics http://6007.us > > Good luck with your site, > > Shawn K > www.thisoldradio.com > > > Dan Rivera wrote: >> Who Here would be interested in contributing to either a website or >> forums strictly for transoceanic radios. >> >> I am taking a poll here to see so we can have another resource for these >> shortwave radios. If interest please let me know in this post. >> >> Dan > > > -- > > Shawn K > www.thisoldradio.com Article: 321806 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Isolation Transformer, and variac Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:41:07 -0600 Message-ID: <5861-431542F3-319@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: There is no need for a variac to power up a radio Article: 321807 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Another Rochester report. Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:35:31 -0700 Message-ID: References: <11h778i42shehf0@corp.supernews.com> <_aQQe.108269$1J2.948641@twister.southeast.rr.com> Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > > > John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > >> >> NOt a problem...... Kutztown... they understand... and > > > Kutztown is a flea market, if that's all you want out of it, > then that's what you get. > > Rochester is a CONFERENCE, they have forums with > historical programing, they have equipment contest, > they have auctions, luncheons, banquets... and a flea market. Ron, let's make one thing perfectly clear....... The conferences, forums, banquets, contests, etc are extremely nice things to have, and the feedback presented here so far indicates that they were excellent and most would agree that they are an essential part of the Rochester event, but............ IT'S THE FLEA AND THE AUCTION THAT PUTS BUTTS IN THE SEATS! Please, do NOT lose sight of of this fact. However shallow it may seem to the historically minded, a lot of people going to this event, and others like it, are going there not only to look at other people's toys, but to acquire a few toys of their own as well. The OPs report on the flea market part of this conference was the worst I have ever read of an event this size, eclipsing any of the badmouthing of Elgin in previous years. If it is anywhere close to the truth, then Rochester is in deep, deep, deep trouble. If I spent $50+ to get into an event like this and found the conditions as described, I would be PISSED. In order to understand why, let me use an analogy (apologies in advance to the more prudish among us): Suppose you were a horny male college student on spring break. You go to a marvelous coastal city to party for a week. The nightclubs are beautiful and amazing, and stocked to the gills with libations. The beaches are awesome, with skies so beautiful and clear you can see the waves for a hundred miles. There's lots of good music and the people are friendly, but......... There's only one woman for every 10,000 guys. Odds are that many of the guys wouldn't stay long, because something important to them is missing from the equation. Now, in the analogy above, substitute "radio buyer at Rochester" for "horny male college student on spring break" and "radio seller at Rochester" for "woman" and the forums, banquets, and contests for the nightclubs and beaches. Get it now? There have been a few local meets that I have attended where I have driven a lot of miles only to find an event that could have been held in a two-car garage. That's OK once in a while for a local event where the costs are only time and gas. It is completely unacceptable for an event with the status and scope of Rochester, even if the other components of the event are worthwhile. If the AWA does not figure out a way to bring the buyers and sellers back to Rochester, the event is DOOMED. Since Kutztown has been mentioned here, I'm going to include Google links to a couple of reports of an event held there last year: http://tinyurl.com/7soo7 http://tinyurl.com/9uzmb These people got hit by the ass end of a hurricane and yet their comments about the event are still overwhelmingly upbeat and positive. Wouldn't you like to see Rochester get comments like this for everything across the board? It's entirely possible....all it takes is open minds and open ears, and a willingness to adapt and change when necessary. -Scott Article: 321808 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dan Rivera" References: <0c8Re.150750$E95.7974@fed1read01> Subject: Re: Transoceanic Website Message-ID: Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:18:26 -0700 Ok Everyone, I am Rolling out the New Site So here it is. I need to get a domain for it but it is a preliminary site. Enjoy! www.transoceanicshortwave.blacksheepwebdesign.net Dan "Dan Rivera" wrote in message news:0c8Re.150750$E95.7974@fed1read01... > Who Here would be interested in contributing to either a website or forums > strictly for transoceanic radios. > > I am taking a poll here to see so we can have another resource for these > shortwave radios. If interest please let me know in this post. > > Dan > Article: 321809 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: European Radios and High B+ Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:15:53 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1125421431.435704.287050@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> arc5@ix.netcom.com wrote: > Bill, what do you think of the "nice outside, rat's-nest inside" > observation? I know you collect Euro-radios as well. Is this > "normal," or do I just pick the "ugly ducklings?" > Dave S. > It has been my experience (and I have worked on many of these things because I love the sound quality) That all but the simplest euro radios have the components packed in like sardines. They used chassis a bit deeper than the americans used and the components are mounted on vertically oriented terminal strips for increased component density per square inch. Many of the sets that use the classic piano key bandswitch have a HUGE number of very skinny wires going to that switch assembly. And yes, they run these things pretty damn hot. I have encountered a few where the center of the output tubes would glow cherry red and begin to distort after a few minutes of play. The fix for that is to set the voltage selector switch from 110V to whatever is closest to 130V. That cools things down a lot. Bill M. is absolutely correct about the strange build attributes of the Philips sets. One look at one of these and I'm sure you will be convinced that the folks in Holland were smoking a different kind of cigarette than the rest of Europe. -Scott Article: 321810 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:25:38 -0700 Message-ID: References: Bruce Mercer wrote: > Has anybody heard from them or know how they came through? > I was about to ask the same thing.....The mentioned in a previous post that they were 185 miles from New Orleans. This was a mega-nasty storm and cut a pretty wide swath; Internet access in that area is probably spotty at best right now. Speaking of New Orleans, I am watching footage on CNN right now of some of the survivors looting homes and businesses. What a bunch of yahoos.........I hope the cops or National Guardsmen have orders to shoot them on sight. -Scott Article: 321811 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Over Kill.... (test equipment) Date: Tue, 30 Aug 2005 23:45:39 -0700 Message-ID: References: <719fd0cbc5bf5b2371f9ae6f69d0567e@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> David Stinson wrote: > Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > >> One thing I've found about that vintage HP equipment. >> Those card edge connectors will be the death of me. > > > I no longer buy this 1960s-1980s vintage of HP equipment. > It does not "age" well and is prone to all kinds > of difficult-to-find (or fix) problems, just as > those you've mentioned. The more cute "features" > they hung on it, the more there is to break. > And HP breaks... A lot.... > Give me Textronix and IFR. They hold up. Being from silicon valley, I see these types of things all the time at swaps and such. The HP test equipment is generally excellent. The real problem is that much of it that has made it to the surplus market is so tired that an overhaul is necessary to ensure reliable operation. A lot of this equipment sat energized on someone's bench 24/7 for 10-15 years or more! Tek scopes are the only ones out there that are worth a shit....all others are wannabes. -Scott Article: 321812 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Another Rochester report. References: <11h778i42shehf0@corp.supernews.com> <_aQQe.108269$1J2.948641@twister.southeast.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:14:27 GMT Scott W. Harvey wrote: > > Ron, let's make one thing perfectly clear....... > > The conferences, forums, banquets, contests, etc are extremely nice > things to have, and the feedback presented here so far indicates that > they were excellent and most would agree that they are an essential part > of the Rochester event, but............ > IT'S THE FLEA AND THE AUCTION THAT PUTS BUTTS IN THE SEATS! > > Please, do NOT lose sight of of this fact. However shallow it may seem > to the historically minded, a lot of people going to this event, and > others like it, are going there not only to look at other people's toys, > but to acquire a few toys of their own as well. > Scott, you obviously don't know me, do you? Ron Article: 321813 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: paulSPAM@paulsherwin.co.uk (Paul Sherwin) Subject: Re: Digital interference Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 10:41:29 GMT Message-ID: <4315883e.7031791@news.demon.co.uk> References: <43119163.1476252@news.demon.co.uk> On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 22:27:55 -0230, "Terry" wrote: >Re the post on using the correct spelling. >Another common misspelling is { flourcescent } light bulbs. from a peviuos >post on this thread! >> >Fluorescent. >The powder inside the tube 'fluoresces' i.e. it light ups! >Yes; my speller agrees with that! >It does not agree with "Flourescent". Terry, as the poster responsible I should explain that I *do* know the correct spelling of 'fluorescent'. It was actually a typo, not a spelling mistake - mistakenly transposing 2 letters (particularly vowels) is a very common typing error. I believe most word processors will correct these errors automagically on the fly, but I don't use any spelling checker with my newsreader. Best regards, Paul -- Paul Sherwin Consulting http://paulsherwin.co.uk Article: 321814 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <0c8Re.150750$E95.7974@fed1read01> Subject: Re: Transoceanic Website Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:48:44 GMT "Dan Rivera" wrote in message news:0c8Re.150750$E95.7974@fed1read01... > Who Here would be interested in contributing to either a website or forums > strictly for transoceanic radios. > > I am taking a poll here to see so we can have another resource for these > shortwave radios. If interest please let me know in this post. > > Dan > There are already many other TO related web sites. I think the effort would be better spent contributing to those sites, rather than diluting the resources with another site. It would be better to have fewer sites with more information, than more sites with fewer information, IMHO. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 321815 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Clive" Subject: Re: Strange Russian Recording Format ? Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:11:23 +0200 Message-ID: References: " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:Pz4Re.1905$mH.655@fed1read07... > > > The Soundscribers used a wide tape (2" or 3" if I recall) and used a > rotating head that wrote diagonal tracks across the width of the tape. > The objective was long recording time (24 hours). Perhaps the > Russian machine used a similar technology? > > Interesting, must have used something like this, although the heads were hidden from view, it didn't look advanced enough to use eliptical scanning. //Clive. Article: 321816 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery References: <1125491448.161832.231410@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:04:20 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > To a large degree, the looting problem is being sensationalized in the news. > In most cases the merchandise being looted is food and clothing, The excuses people will mouth to prevent being un-P.C.... It's funny... I didn't know they packed food and baby diapers in color TVs, boxes of sneakers and cases of wine. I guess the folks that just sacked and looted the Children's Hospital, which *was* trying to help the injured, were just looking for first aid supplies? Bet you don't hear much about that one... Someone might say "racist" or something, and heaven forbid that, oh my! I think they should shoot them down like rabid dogs and let the pigs eat them. Just my humble opinion, of course. You know- there were far more "poor people" during the Great Depression, with whole families literally starving to death, and there was little violent crime no looting to speak of. People don't loot and rob because they are poor. They loot and rob because they are rotten. D.S., now labeled "racist" by those who have a vested interest in denying the truth. Article: 321817 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Another Rochester report. Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 07:54:16 -0700 Message-ID: References: <11h778i42shehf0@corp.supernews.com> <_aQQe.108269$1J2.948641@twister.southeast.rr.com> Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > > > Scott W. Harvey wrote: > >> >> Ron, let's make one thing perfectly clear....... >> >> The conferences, forums, banquets, contests, etc are extremely nice >> things to have, and the feedback presented here so far indicates that >> they were excellent and most would agree that they are an essential >> part of the Rochester event, but............ >> IT'S THE FLEA AND THE AUCTION THAT PUTS BUTTS IN THE SEATS! >> >> Please, do NOT lose sight of of this fact. However shallow it may seem >> to the historically minded, a lot of people going to this event, and >> others like it, are going there not only to look at other people's >> toys, but to acquire a few toys of their own as well. >> > > Scott, you obviously don't know me, do you? No, I don't. In the posting that I responded to from you seemed to be defensive about some of Rochester's shortcomings. If I am way off base here then I apologize. It was probably a mistake to direct my comments at you personally in any case, as they were more directed to the readership as a whole. There is a disturbing trend pertaining to some of these big events (Mostly Rochester and what used to be known as Elgin) in that attendance is declining, and fewer sellers seem motivated to make the trek to sell their wares. Given that these events are partly social events and partly events where buyers and seller are brought together, this trend is potentially deadly. I remember back in my youth in Oregon, there was an older guy (early forties) who would get in his car and drive from Portland to Rochester and back, every year. Somewhere along the way, he would rent a U-haul and would use it to haul his loot back from the event. The quantity and quality of stuff he brought back was always good, some years it was spectacular. One year, after his return from Rochester, I went over to his place to check out the stuff he brought back. I noticed that his car had a huge gash all along the passenger side. I asked him what happened and he said that he had fallen asleep at the wheel on his way back and grazed a guardrail. He wasn't hurt, but he was probably out a couple grand at least on the car repairs. I then asked him if it was really worth it to drive all that distance, and he said, "Son, if I wrecked my car every year I would still go. It's THAT good!". Other people who regularly went gave me similar kudos. Clearly, Rochester was, and perhaps still is, one of the signature events of the year. I would hate to see it fall into an abyss for reasons that are entirely preventable. -Scott Article: 321818 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Help with Zenith 6D525- won't power up References: <1125499798.405520.265100@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:17:55 GMT Lane wrote: > I have just re-capped a Zeninth 6D525, completely, including the filter > caps. It doesn't power up, not even the dial light, which checks OK. > What do I do next? Go here: http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/095/M0025095.pdf Print a copy of the schematic. Grab an ohm meter and a yellow highlighter pen. Then follow the AC power though the filament string, marking each wire and tube. (Do this with the set unplugged on the bench.) Check the tubes for continuity across the filaments as well. Check the on/off switch AND the power cord. Some times it's the really obvious that get overlooked. Look for mis-wired connections, or bad solder joints. Also, look for excess solder "blobbed" somewhere and causing short between tube pins or the chassis. A short in the wrong place can cause a tube filament to act like a flash bulb and open up. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321819 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 09:49:18 -0600 Message-ID: References: "David Stinson" wrote in message news:FdhRe.3859$Wd7.909@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Scott W. Harvey wrote: > >> Speaking of New Orleans, I am watching footage on CNN right now of some >> of the survivors looting homes and businesses. What a bunch of >> yahoos.........I hope the cops or National Guardsmen have orders to shoot >> them on sight. > > Are you kidding? And be called "racist" and "genocide?" > Our dear left folks have made it impossible to tell > the truth about anything.... take your right wing propaganda adgenda and stuff it up your ass. randy Article: 321820 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "just me" References: <1125491448.161832.231410@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 11:49:46 -1200 "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:a_iRe.3878$Wd7.1244@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... > To a large degree, the looting problem is being sensationalized in the > news. In most cases the merchandise being looted is food and clothing, and > in such cases the police are looking the other way. What do you do when > you must have food, and food is there, but the cash registers don't work, > and all the employees have evacuated? Sensationalized? In this case as in other "disasters" - I don't think so. Often, the news crews show films of items OTHER than food or clothes being hauled off. They often show windows being smashed out to gain entry or just to do it - setting fire also. It makes no sense. ANIMALS! I agree with whoever it was that said - they should be shot on sight. There is no excuse for that. Maybe the social agencies such as the Red Cross and so on aren't really set up for shop yet - there - but they will be, they are working on it. In due time - clothes donations and so on will be pouring in. That is NO reason for scum to be carrying off items not paid for. It is "they" who should have washed out to sea. As for being prosecuted due to being monitored on tape, I doubt it. The "only" tape they may be on - is "news" tape. I HIGHLY doubt any security systems are still intact. Most aren't run off of emergency power. I can only hope the bastards who hauled off TVs and such - get electrocuted - when plugged in. Martial law has since been established and "should" include - "shot on sight" for looters. There are enough problems with out the scum of the world causing more. They'll steal from stores, they'll steal from you too. Their greed has no boundaries. My sympathy for the looters goes out the window with their actions. Taking food (maybe clothes) - understandable, though I still don't condone it. Stealing TVs and so on? FOR WHAT? Most likely the home they "may" have left will still have to be condemned - furniture and all. They most likely have no power to watch the damned thing! It makes no sense. I doubt anyone would "buy" it, no one else has a current need for one either! Yeah, "maybe" some day the cops will catch up with them. MAYBE..... By then, time may have expired to prosecute. > > Yes there are indeed looters who have taken other merchandise, and in due > time the police will monitor vidoetape to help prosecute some of the > people -- or so they say. I think there are higher priorities, > particularly when they don't have the time to deal with the dead bodies > floating around. Also, as Steven said, if you see a plasma TV for the > taking, where you gonna take it? Particularly if flooded, whatever > merchandise isn't taken will most likely be written off anyway. > > I understand Wal-Mart opened their doors and basically let anyone come in > and take what they need. > > Bravo for Wal-Mart. A tax write off none the less. Maybe more should think about that instead of "gouging" - which by the way is "supposed" to be illegal. Seems strange though, "gouging" is just what the "oil" companies seem to be doing - legally. The price was rumored to go to $ 3 a gallon here locally a couple weeks before the hurricane was even spotted. NOW it is - at some stations! How convenient..... A "reason". Yeah, maybe those rigs did provide 1/3 of our supply, but not all. The hurricane didn't cause the prices to keep rising in the recent past. We've been getting screwed and we'll continue to get screwed by the oil barons - hurricane(s) or not. ALL BS aside, I wish those in the affected areas - the best of luck - my thoughts and prayes are with them. Though I can't do anything for them from here, I am certainly pulling for them. In due time I'll donate some cash and perhaps "items" of need. Seeing such devastation, hearing some of the reports - sure is heart wrenching. Being involved with Emergency services - I can say - People DO need to be patient. That sort of devastation won't be cleaned up over night. The best thing to do is "cooperate". It makes things much easier for all involved. With thousands affected, you're not going to be #1. It is human nature to want to fend for one's self, but if all did that, what do you get? Utter chaos. THAT gets nothing accomplished. Pitch in - help out, the more help people provide, the sooner things get going again. BUT - often it is much to easy to sit on your dead ass and accuse the agencies of not helping - or doing it fast enough than to help. NOW the only question left is - we donate millions to others who experience disaster. Now, HOW MUCH are they going to donate to US? I'm laying odds - not a damned dime. Those who do - may they be blessed and counted as friends. This disaster is one more reason in my own book of DOING FOR US - to hell with the rest. Keep those millions here for our needs when they arise. jm > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 321821 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:56:32 GMT xrongor wrote: > take your right wing propaganda adgenda and stuff it up your ass. My... Aren't you a member of the "party of tolerance?" I guess it's "California (New York) Tolerance:" Tolerating anyone who agrees with you. When it's *your* home they pillage and loot, I'll be waiting to hear your words of patience and understanding for the oppressed.... p.s. Thanks for your kind suggestion, but my "right wing propaganda" would not fit well in that place where "left wing ideas" originate. Article: 321822 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Another Rochester report. References: <11h778i42shehf0@corp.supernews.com> <_aQQe.108269$1J2.948641@twister.southeast.rr.com> Message-ID: <%9lRe.130176$1J2.1061430@twister.southeast.rr.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:46:51 GMT >> Scott > No, I don't. In the posting that I responded to from you seemed to be > defensive about some of Rochester's shortcomings. I have nothing to do with how the Rochester event is ran. I have been very critical about how they do some things. But I understand that the AWA has been doing it basically the same way for many many years and for most of those years they have been the bench mark antique radio event of the year. The AWA's main focus for Rochester has never been to host the best flea market. They were a HISTORICAL CONFERENCE. Bruce Kelly who was a good friend of mine and the founder of the AWA said many times that he would rather there not even be a flea market at Rochester. The flea market today grew out of what was just some of the attendees of the AWA Historical Conference, trading radios out of their car trunks in the parking lot, between seminars. The Rochester conference is also somewhat hamstrung by zoning regulations imposed by the town of Heneritta, which required the event to be for club members only, OR the flea market vendors would be required to get a sellers license and collect taxes on every item sold. As I understand it, this has just recently been changed and will not effect next years event. Hopefully the changes will help enough to keep Rochester >from fading away. Ron Article: 321823 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery References: <1125491448.161832.231410@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:55:52 GMT > Gary Tayman wrote: >> To a large degree, the looting problem is being sensationalized in the >> news. In most cases the merchandise being looted is food and clothing, > Looters don't loot because of need, they do it out of opportunity and because they're animals. Just look at the New York when they have a black out. The animals instantly pour out of the gettos and start stealing just because they think they can get away with it in the dark. I saw a couple of them on the news last night pushing a store display down the street, piled high with sneakers. Do you think they were going to eat the sneakers??? Ron Article: 321824 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: Tricks and Tips: Neat power cord find... References: <1125411236.068101.101470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1125413860.571134.188340@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:06:42 -0500 Engineer wrote: > I always save the power IEC line cord and receptacle on all scrapped > modern equipment that I can lay my hands on (some is actually my > stuff, I hate that!) Dead or scrap PC power supplies are a good > source and also yield a small PCB and a mains filter on the IEC > receptacle (a free mini-mains switch, too.) > > I've just wired up the P/S of a 10 watt 6V6 PP amp "homebrew" I'm > working on, installing an IEC receptacle, filter PCB (why not? Free, > might help!) and mini-switch for the 115 VAC input. Old steel chassis. > Cut the rectangular holes starting with 4 drill holes at the corners > (mark it out carefully), then a Dremel tool cutting disk at 5000 rpm, > or so (careful - they break!) - finish with a file to get square > corners. > If you use the heavy duty, reinforced dremel cutoff wheels, breakage is much less a problem. In fact, I rarely break one of these before it's worn down to a nub...in fact can't remember ever breaking one. The standard ones--IME--rarely get worn out before they break. When they do, they often scatter shrapnel around the room, so I rarely use them anymore unless I need a very fine cut in thin, soft material. Even then, I'm careful to keep the tool aligned so that potential projectiles aren't aimed at vital parts of my body. > Cheers, > Roger > > Article: 321825 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4315E401.3060001@socal.rr.com> From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery References: <1125491448.161832.231410@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:06:51 GMT Swerving back on topic, re: The Gutterys... Apparently Meridian missed out on the major damage, and has just suffered collateral effects such as power and phone outages and some downed trees due to high winds. http://www.meridianstar.com/articles/2005/08/31/local_news/top_story/double.txt Additionally, Meridian is being used as a staging area for relief worker crews. (That's always a good sign, when you're in good enough shape to be helping others instead.) Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321826 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: computer acts like a SW receiver Date: 31 Aug 2005 12:31:03 -0500 Message-ID: <4315e8bd$0$183$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: <43135f28$0$215$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <4314843c$0$181$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <1125427476.324455.152640@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > Reminds me of the old joke having to do with Mr. Agnew, our once-and > former VP and word-butcher. He had a terrible fire in his house, it > started in the Library. He lost both books. He had not even finished > coloring in one of them. > As I heard it, the butt of the joke was Ronald Reagan. Now, California has another bad actor in the governor's house. Bubba Article: 321827 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: computer acts like a SW receiver Date: 31 Aug 2005 12:32:02 -0500 Message-ID: <4315e911$0$183$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: <43135f28$0$215$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <4314843c$0$181$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <1125427476.324455.152640@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125465698.7ec9fbdf015906c13762c92548de7401@teranews> <1125488998.180181.298560@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > William: > > Care to take a stab at it? Using no dictionaries or other external > resources, of course. > I have found engineers to be the worst at it. I've often heard it said (in the halls of high technology) that engineers cannot write. I usually don't find them that bad overall, but can usually use strong editing. Bubba Article: 321828 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 12:06:59 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1125506317.632894.241320@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1125506317.632894.241320@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > JM wrote: > > "NOW the only question left is - we donate millions to others who > experience disaster. Now, HOW MUCH are they going to donate to US? I'm > laying odds - not a damned dime." > > Has it occurred to you that we give to countries like Indonesia because > WE have it and THEY don't? And you expect them to give something back? > We are still the richest nation on earth. "Give freely to whosoever > asks," and you will be blessed with abundance. > > DS wrote: > > "You know- there were far more "poor people" during the Great > Depression, with whole families literally starving to death, and there > was little violent crime no looting to speak of." > > Good point. All around, people are losing their manners. get real. there were less video cameras around during the great depression. and less tv's to sell ad space on. thats the only reason you heard about less looting and theiving. people arent losing their manners, they are losing their patience. randy Article: 321829 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Help with Zenith 6D525- won't power up References: <1125499798.405520.265100@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125505755.516122.150980@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125507180.178459.277760@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:08:47 GMT Yes, looking at the BOTTOM of the tube (from the wiring side of the chassis. The keyway indicates where to start counting at. Pin-1 is immediately to the right, and continues clockwise. For those of you with Digital clocks, clockwise is in a circular motion going to the right. ;-) Jeff Lane wrote: > Oh, thats great Phil - thanks. I've got it. Do I assume correctly > that the tab on the bottom of the diagrams indicates the tab position > on the center locating pin on the tube? > -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 321830 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 14:14:36 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Help with Zenith 6D525- won't power up References: <1125499798.405520.265100@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125505755.516122.150980@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125507180.178459.277760@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <81714$4315f38d$4232bd20$13220@COQUI.NET> Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Yes, looking at the BOTTOM of the tube (from the wiring side of the > chassis. The keyway indicates where to start counting at. Pin-1 > is immediately to the right, and continues clockwise. > > For those of you with Digital clocks, clockwise is in a circular > motion going to the right. ;-) with the keyway at the bottom you would start by going to the left. -Bill Article: 321831 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Strange Russian Recording Format ? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:12:46 -0400 "Clive" wrote in message news:df4dqc$jlq$1@news.al.sw.ericsson.se... > > > Interesting, must have used something like this, although the heads were > hidden from view, it didn't look advanced enough to use eliptical scanning. > > //Clive. > > "Eliptical" that was the word I was searching for! The Soundscribers were not overly advanced technology; they were mostly a mechanical contrievence, Playback required manual intervention to synchonize the head with the track. Pete Article: 321832 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43160B9D.191FA4B8@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery References: <1125491448.161832.231410@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4315E401.3060001@socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:56:57 GMT Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > Swerving back on topic, re: The Gutterys... > > Apparently Meridian missed out on the major damage, and has > just suffered collateral effects such as power and phone > outages and some downed trees due to high winds. > > http://www.meridianstar.com/articles/2005/08/31/local_news/top_story/double.txt > > Additionally, Meridian is being used as a staging area for relief > worker crews. (That's always a good sign, when you're in good enough > shape to be helping others instead.) > > Jeff I just got this e-mail from randy: > Randy, are you and Sherry OK? A lot of people are worried about you on the newsgroup. Yes - we're fine. We were very blessed; very little damage - could have been so much worse. Power was out about 24 hours - internet service was restored about 5 minutes ago... so things are getting back to "normal". I'll catch up on the newsgroups soon... we're still check with customers, etc. - there is a LOT of damage, etc. in some of those areas... best regards (and thanks!) -- randy & sherry I just wanted to share this. I'm gone from here, again. -- Link to my "Computers for disabled Veterans" project website deleted after threats were telephoned to my church. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida From adouglasatgis.net Wed Aug 31 22:40:33 EDT 2005 Article: 321833 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: computer acts like a SW receiver Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:45:55 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <43135f28$0$215$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <4314843c$0$181$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <1125427476.324455.152640@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125465698.7ec9fbdf015906c13762c92548de7401@teranews> <1125488998.180181.298560@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-987.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news3 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:321833 Hi, >William: > >Care to take a stab at it? Using no dictionaries or other external >resources, of course. >I have found engineers to be the worst at it. An accurate meter gives the correct value. A precise meter gives the same value every time, but may not be correct. Yes, we had to learn that in freshman engineering, a course incidentally taught by the department head (Swarthmore). Alan, BSEE 1965 Article: 321834 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: [O.T.] Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery References: <1125491448.161832.231410@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125520986.696718.159620@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <_apRe.4152$oJ2.3671@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:20:58 GMT Peter Wieck wrote: > > More Americans will come to understand the tenuousness of their > energy supplies. And the difference between "supply" and "capacity". > Right now, refining capacity is at issue, not absolute supply. MAYBE, > some Americans will also understand the difference between the actual > price of oil as mostly paid by US companies to OPEC and the like and > the "SPOT MARKET". Where we are seeing $70/barrel crude is on the > SPOT MARKET. Again, something like 80% of OPEC oil delivered to the > US is under contract, typically around $34-$36/barrel FOB Dammam or > Kuwait City. Peter, Interesting observations...which brings up two questions that beg to be asked: The price of gasoline here in the Detroit area went up significantly (25-40 cents per gallon) overnight, before the clouds from Katrina even blew over. This was for gas already on premise and in the tanks. Even more puzzling to me was that one to two weeks *before* Katrina was even born, the news media widely reported that the profits of the large oil companies were up 35 to 51%. Gouging or something less malevolent? Carter, K8VT From adouglasatgis.net Wed Aug 31 22:40:33 EDT 2005 Article: 321835 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Another Rochester report. Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:10:45 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 34 Message-ID: <926ch1hadk3afshiuh840v81vjenfa4sit@4ax.com> References: <11h778i42shehf0@corp.supernews.com> <_aQQe.108269$1J2.948641@twister.southeast.rr.com> <%9lRe.130176$1J2.1061430@twister.southeast.rr.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-230.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!tethys.csu.net!pln-w!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:321835 Hi, Ron wrote: >Bruce Kelly who was a good friend of mine and the founder >of the AWA said many times that he would rather there not >even be a flea market at Rochester. >The flea market today grew out of what was just some of the >attendees of the AWA Historical Conference, trading radios out >of their car trunks in the parking lot, between seminars. The year I first attended, which I think was 1974, the flea market was supposed to be held at a lakeside pavilion separate from the motel, as had been the custom in years before. As I recall, bad weather forced them to move it indoors to the main conference room at Canandaigua. I still remember the British MkIII crystal set that sat on a table for some time before somebody (not me unfortunately) ventured to ask the price. $85. The outdoor "flea market" consisted of five open trunks in the front-entrance parking area, people selling 1920s broadcast sets. It expanded from there into the grass on one and then both sides of the entrance. So there always was a flea market. Once the camel's nose is in the tent... It would be easy enough to return to the old format of purely wireless historians/collectors socializing among themselves, sneering at "3 dialers" and anything newer than 1930. They'd probably fit in the old Canandaigua Sheraton too. But there wouldn't be many of them, not much programming, hardly any contest. I'm sure Bruce knew that as well as anyone. 73, Alan Article: 321836 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 15:31:06 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1125491448.161832.231410@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> i just wish people felt so strongly when corporations rip off the american people 'legally' as they do about this 'epidemic' of smash and grab stuff. randy Article: 321837 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 17:57:39 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery References: <1125491448.161832.231410@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <6275$431627d7$4232bd20$20138@COQUI.NET> xrongor wrote: > i just wish people felt so strongly when corporations rip off the american > people 'legally' as they do about this 'epidemic' of smash and grab stuff. > > randy > > Who says they don't? There's a string of corporate bigshots being convicted or in line for conviction in the Enron/Tyco/Worldcom/Stewart scandals. People aren't whining because they were apprehended and the justice system is dealing with them. These looting punks you're seeing on tv are typically the same criminal trash that plagued their community before...and will afterwards. We watch them on tv acting with impunity. Thats what angers people. I hardly expect the NOLA PD to stop what they are doing and waste valuable time on these punks...but its still angering nonetheless. I'd be in favor of bringing in a few containers of gators and letting them loose in commercial areas to deal with this riff-raff. -BM Article: 321838 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery From: "xrongor" Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 16:20:51 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1125491448.161832.231410@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6275$431627d7$4232bd20$20138@COQUI.NET> "-ex-" wrote in message news:6275$431627d7$4232bd20$20138@COQUI.NET... > xrongor wrote: >> i just wish people felt so strongly when corporations rip off the >> american people 'legally' as they do about this 'epidemic' of smash and >> grab stuff. >> >> randy > Who says they don't? There's a string of corporate bigshots being > convicted or in line for conviction in the Enron/Tyco/Worldcom/Stewart > scandals. People aren't whining because they were apprehended and the > justice system is dealing with them. people arent crying 'shoot them in the street'... > These looting punks you're seeing on tv are typically the same criminal > trash that plagued their community before...and will afterwards. We > watch them on tv acting with impunity. Thats what angers people. blame the tv. as you said it was going on before, and will after. the only difference is that its on tv. lets put it another way. imagine if dollar stolen for dollar stolen, the news spent as much time on corporate crime as it is on some looters.... > I hardly expect the NOLA PD to stop what they are doing and waste valuable > time on these punks...but its still angering nonetheless. I'd be in favor > of bringing in a few containers of gators and letting them loose in > commercial areas to deal with this riff-raff. i agree. it would make me angry too. i just think its funny that people are coming out of the woodwork calling for mob rule to stop the looting. i just wish people would get as passionate about REAL crime. randy Article: 321839 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1125525620.161141.243660@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Help with Selenium Rectifier Replacement Needed Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:43:22 -0400 I suspect around 500 mA at most. And yes, a silicon bridge rectifier could be used to replace the device. It looks like a fairly low voltage circuit (60 vots??, can't read it) so if you use a silicon bridge you might need a small resistor in series with the postive lead to reduce the output voltage slightly. Seleniums have a higher internal resistance and will drop more voltage. Try a resistor between 27 and 100 ohms and see which gives you the correct voltage. A 3-watt metal oxide should do. Pete "Fred" wrote in message news:1125525620.161141.243660@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > I have a jukebox with a selenimum rectifier that needs to be replaced. > You can see the device and the schematic on my blog. > > http://jukeboxrestore.blogspot.com/ > > If you look at the picture you see five prongs. Two (black marks) are > bridged with a wire and trail off with a black wire. Two (yellow marks) > go to the transformer). One (red mark) trails off with a red wire. I > see a "A5" on the device. I guess one could assume it means 5 amps. > > Can someone give me some advice with respect to its replacement with > the understanding that I'm new at this. I suspect that it's a simple > matter of replacement of this device with a silicon rectifier bridge > rated at greater than 5 amps, but need something approaching > step-by-step "rectifier replacement for dummies" information. > Article: 321840 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:48:30 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery References: <1125491448.161832.231410@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6275$431627d7$4232bd20$20138@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <9b7f1$431633c0$4232bd20$12982@COQUI.NET> xrongor wrote: > > blame the tv. as you said it was going on before, and will after. the only > difference is that its on tv. > > lets put it another way. imagine if dollar stolen for dollar stolen, the > news spent as much time on corporate crime as it is on some looters.... > You must have missed the Martha Stewart Coverage Marathon. But point taken...there's more than enough out there to fill up a 24hr. Corporate Crime Channel. -BM Article: 321841 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "just me" References: <1125506419.079747.166770@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1125511890.810784.324190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1125521576.418978.316140@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:45:16 -1200 "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1125521576.418978.316140@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > The American Red Cross is seeking volunteers who might be willing to > shelter refugees from our southwest. As of this moment, something on > the order of 300,000 individuals may be displaced for from weeks to > many months. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Personally, I bet on many months or perhaps even much longer! Not that by a few months down the road - they wouldn't have found the means of supporting themselves and move on - it's highly doubtful they'd have anything to go back to - there! . If I could, I would invite someone in. "I" am not at liberty though to do that. My lease won't allow it. One way or another - "I" plan to donate something. jm Article: 321842 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 08:11:39 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1125491448.161832.231410@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125520986.696718.159620@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1125520986.696718.159620@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > The veneer of civilization is very thin indeed. I've tried to put this across to people for years and they never understand what I'm saying. 'civilization' is a forced human condition. Left to our own devices, we as a race are anarchists. We're actually fortunate that sometime back between when we lived in caves and now some dictator type decided there would be rules and that they would be enforced, and enough people went along with it. Think how long it took us to get where we are now, and how little time or circumstances it would take to put us back to that anarchy again. > Question: Where do you put 100,000 people for about a year? If you want > to be useful in this event, consider that question and decide what you > might do about it. 100,000 Peter? Are there not millions currently homeless along the Gulf Coast, with cities like New Orleans for all practical purposes totally destroyed? It will take years to build the city back up to anything like what it was, and then a large number (I suspect even more than the 100,000 you quote) will not be able to move back there due to financial restrictions (the new homes will be a lot more expensive than the ones they lost.. most did NOT have flood insurance to replace their homes or belongings). What about jobs? It will be a while after the city reopens before businesses will relocate there in any large numbers. And that's just New Orleans. Similar situations exist in smaller towns and cities along the Gulf Coast in LA, MS, and AL. I saw something that sort of brought home a bit of the destruction.. a list of zip codes closed until further notice: http://www.usps.com/communications/news/serviceupdates.htm?from=bannercommunications&page=katrina Article: 321843 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Help with Zenith 6D525- won't power up Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 08:18:04 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1125499798.405520.265100@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125505755.516122.150980@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125507180.178459.277760@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:PmmRe.7954$HR5.2481@tornado.socal.rr.com... > Yes, looking at the BOTTOM of the tube (from the wiring side of the > chassis. The keyway indicates where to start counting at. Pin-1 > is immediately to the right, and continues clockwise. > > For those of you with Digital clocks, clockwise is in a circular > motion going to the right. ;-) Jeff, That's a great explanation of clockwise, till you get past pin 3... :) Then all of a sudden you're going left. My definition would be clockwise is the direction you turn your steering wheel as you're making a right turn. Isn't English wonderful? Article: 321844 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 08:21:17 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1125506419.079747.166770@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1125511890.810784.324190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1125511890.810784.324190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > >But can you guys stop going to frikkin' pieces, or what? have some > faith. > > "Oh, lighten up, Francis." I can very distinctly hear Sgt. Joe Esterhouse saying that to Cpt. Furillo.... Article: 321845 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: <43135f28$0$215$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <4314843c$0$181$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <4314f68b$0$1308$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <43152d2d$0$217$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Subject: Re: Words, etc. (was Re: computer acts like a SW receiver) Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 00:57:32 +0100 Message-ID: <4316441d$0$97137$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> CalBubba wrote: > Martin Crossley wrote: (HUGE SNIP) >> I'd always thought that it was only my mother tongue, English >> English, that kept a distinction, like with tyre (pneumatic) and >> tire (fatigue), metre( length) and meter (instrument), >> storey(floor) and story (tale), ass (mule) and arse (derriere), >> cheque (bank) and check(verify), >> programme(TV or itinerary) and program (computer ONLY), etc. >> Martin. >> > > I like that. These distinctions eliminate vagueness and help people > communicate their ideas clearly. That's what I'm after (and my concern > with "ensure," "insure," and "assure." I'm glad that you pointed out > these examples for these distinctions that don't exist in American > English. > > In general, however, I think that the American traditions of technical > documentation are actually clearer and more precise than most UK > examples than I've read. It's something that I've observed over time. > And I have no idea why we're better at it. The reasons may be quite > interesting to know. > > Bubba Hmm,yes, interesting! Of course I don't agree yet, but I'm open to persuasion. I find British technical documentation from the valve era, say 1935-1970, to be perfectly clear and easily understandable, and American publications also OK, once mentally translated. But later ones tend to have been produced abroad, translated fairly poorly from Japanese, Korean or Chinese into American, then supplied with products here on the grounds that "it's English." To be fair, I know nothing of their languages, but I do need instructions to be written in mine. Those supplied with video or DVD recorders are particularly difficult when they fail to understand the (subtle?) differences between program (timer event) and television programme(which is what you want the timer to record) and channel as the station name (channel 4 or 5) and its corresponding transmitter channel (e.g. channel 44) I would suggest that "Valve Amplifiers" by Morgan Jones is a well-written and very readable modern technical book. I wonder if you can suggest some well-written (and online) manuals to illustrate your opinion?, and I submit one by my employer for critical comment: http://www.baxall.com/archive/HBCDSP9000.pdf Sorry to the group for straying so far OT. Thanks, Martin. Article: 321846 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:02:19 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1125491448.161832.231410@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6275$431627d7$4232bd20$20138@COQUI.NET> <9b7f1$431633c0$4232bd20$12982@COQUI.NET> "-ex-" wrote in message news:9b7f1$431633c0$4232bd20$12982@COQUI.NET... > xrongor wrote: > >> >> blame the tv. as you said it was going on before, and will after. the >> only difference is that its on tv. >> >> lets put it another way. imagine if dollar stolen for dollar stolen, the >> news spent as much time on corporate crime as it is on some looters.... >> > You must have missed the Martha Stewart Coverage Marathon. But point > taken...there's more than enough out there to fill up a 24hr. Corporate > Crime Channel. yeah, i dont mean to come off all preachy, and dont get me wrong, i dont condone looting. i just get a little nervous when i hear people saying 'shot on sight' over a stolen television... randy Article: 321847 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: One more way to clean out the shop Message-ID: Date: Thu, 01 Sep 2005 00:03:57 GMT Okay, we've had discussions recently about cleaning our shops. I've made some progress, but still have a ways to go. The City of New Orleans has just been destroyed, as has many small towns along the Gulf Coast. It gives you a sinking feeling when you've been there and enjoyed the area so much To say the loss is great is a major understatement. I'm still not sure what all the needs are, but the news had mentioned that the Red Cross is collecting all it can, and that at least one of the critical needs is power tools, particularly saws. Doggone it, I've got a buzz saw that I haven't used in 10 years, and a table saw stashed away that hasn't been used in almost 20 years. I think I'm going to make myself some room! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 321848 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "just me" References: <1125506419.079747.166770@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1125511890.810784.324190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1125521576.418978.316140@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:07:25 -1200 "John Stone" wrote in message news:BF3BA1DF.2354D%jmsent2@comcast.net... > Why are your posts all coming in as being posted hours later than the > actual > time? Is there an issue with your computer clock or are you off in some > far > away land? > > To whom are you referring? IF me (JM) just looked, clock is right at least as showing on the computer! I've been noticing a time lag on others too - writing to me. Who knows......? But again, if me, I live right here in the good ole U. S. of A. as Archie would say. jm Article: 321849 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1125506419.079747.166770@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1125511890.810784.324190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1125521576.418978.316140@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery Message-ID: <6LrRe.73304$DW1.49312@fed1read06> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:16:00 -0400 "just me" wrote in message news:jCrRe.31485$Tf5.178@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... > "John Stone" wrote in message > news:BF3BA1DF.2354D%jmsent2@comcast.net... > > > > To whom are you referring? IF me (JM) just looked, clock is right at least > as showing on the computer! I've been noticing a time lag on others too - > writing to me. Who knows......? But again, if me, I live right here in the > good ole U. S. of A. as Archie would say. > > jm > > You clock is right. Your calender is ahead. Article: 321850 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: computer acts like a SW receiver Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 00:49:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <43135f28$0$215$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <4314843c$0$181$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <4314f68b$0$1308$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> In <4314f68b$0$1308$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> "Martin Crossley" writes: >I'd always thought that it was only my mother tongue, English English, >that kept a distinction, like with tyre (pneumatic) and tire (fatigue), >metre( length) and meter (instrument), >storey(floor) and story (tale), ass (mule) and arse (derriere), Ah, but what about bum? Folks here got terribly confused by "bum bag". Perhaps that's the true reason, not political correctness, for the term "street person". :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321851 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "just me" References: <1125506419.079747.166770@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1125511890.810784.324190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1125521576.418978.316140@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6LrRe.73304$DW1.49312@fed1read06> Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery Message-ID: Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:50:02 -1200 " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:6LrRe.73304$DW1.49312@fed1read06... > > "just me" wrote in message > news:jCrRe.31485$Tf5.178@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... >> "John Stone" wrote in message >> news:BF3BA1DF.2354D%jmsent2@comcast.net... >> > > >> To whom are you referring? IF me (JM) just looked, clock is right at >> least >> as showing on the computer! I've been noticing a time lag on others too - >> writing to me. Who knows......? But again, if me, I live right here in >> the >> good ole U. S. of A. as Archie would say. >> >> jm >> >> > > You clock is right. Your calender is ahead. > Hmmm, I'll have to check that out. jm Article: 321852 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 00:59:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1125491448.161832.231410@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In Ron in Radio Heaven writes: >Looters don't loot because of need, they do it out of opportunity >and because they're animals. >Just look at the New York when they have a black out. I live in "the New York", smack in the middle of Manhattan. My ex lives in Harlem. Both areas were peaceful as could be during the last black out. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 321853 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "just me" References: <1125506419.079747.166770@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1125511890.810784.324190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1125521576.418978.316140@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6LrRe.73304$DW1.49312@fed1read06> Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery Message-ID: <9jsRe.31489$Tf5.23114@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net> Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 20:55:31 -0400 " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:6LrRe.73304$DW1.49312@fed1read06... > > "just me" wrote in message > news:jCrRe.31485$Tf5.178@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... >> "John Stone" wrote in message >> news:BF3BA1DF.2354D%jmsent2@comcast.net... >> > > >> To whom are you referring? IF me (JM) just looked, clock is right at >> least >> as showing on the computer! I've been noticing a time lag on others too - >> writing to me. Who knows......? But again, if me, I live right here in >> the >> good ole U. S. of A. as Archie would say. >> >> jm >> >> > > You clock is right. Your calender is ahead. > Let's see if this makes a difference. I had it set for some odd ball time in GMT - not really sure why I did that - except to say I must have been setting it with toothpicks holding my eyes open. When I switched it to Eastern - it made a huge difference in my clock as you might imagine. Thanks for the heads up! jm Article: 321854 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Isolation Transformer, and variac Message-ID: <3MsRe.73306$DW1.19074@fed1read06> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:25:17 -0400 Look for an Eico or Heath variable AC supply. Heath model IP-5220 or SP-5220 combines variable AC with an isolation transformer and fuse protection. Eico made several comparable units. Pete "Trey" wrote in message news:gNKdnah1PPgNnojeRVn-qA@bresnan.com... > Hi everyone. I'm a new guy around here, and a new guy to radios. I'm > trying to do some research on what i want to get for a isolation > transformer, and a variac, and figured id ask a quick question. while > looking on ebay, i find a lot of variable transformers. are these the same > as a iso trans and a variac combined? or am i way off here. id sure > appreciate any help. i have a few radios im waiting to power up until i can > do so, safetly. thanks! > > trey > > Article: 321855 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: computer acts like a SW receiver Message-ID: References: <43135f28$0$215$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <4314843c$0$181$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <1125427476.324455.152640@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125465698.7ec9fbdf015906c13762c92548de7401@teranews> <1125488998.180181.298560@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125536300.348431.137970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:44:18 -0400 On 31 Aug 2005 17:58:20 -0700, "Peter Wieck" wrote: >Sooooo..... close. But no cigar. > >Peter Wieck >Wyncote, PA Actually he was right on target. Maybe your answers are skewed! Article: 321856 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: Tricks and Tips: Neat power cord find... Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:37:40 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1125411236.068101.101470@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1125413860.571134.188340@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4315117e_1@news1.prserv.net> On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:43:11 -0500 "Crazy George" wrote: >We used to call them early HP power cords, or round pin HP cords, and Belden calls then business machine power cords. I >think Marchant or Remington Rand was the original user before HP started using them. Belden still makes them under >their #17952. Keep in mind that there were 2 different versions of this cord. On the early ones, the ground pin is at one side with neutral in the middle, but the late ones put the ground pin in the middle. At one time, Belden made both, but I don't know if that's still true. I have some Heath gear that uses the late version, but I've worked with some early Harrison Labs power supplies which required the early ones. I believe I eventually converted the Harrison Labs supplies to the late version, just to avoid a problem. >But I have to second Roger (Engineer)'s suggestion to convert those old equipments to IEC connectors. I agree. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 321857 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:49:15 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery References: <1125506419.079747.166770@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1125511890.810784.324190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1125521576.418978.316140@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <6LrRe.73304$DW1.49312@fed1read06> <9jsRe.31489$Tf5.23114@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net> Message-ID: just me wrote: >>You clock is right. Your calender is ahead. >> > > > Let's see if this makes a difference. I had it set for some odd ball time in > GMT - not really sure why I did that - except to say I must have been > setting it with toothpicks holding my eyes open. When I switched it to > Eastern - it made a huge difference in my clock as you might imagine. > > Thanks for the heads up! > > jm > > Still a day ahead. -Bill Article: 321858 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "just me" References: <1125506419.079747.166770@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1125511890.810784.324190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1125521576.418978.316140@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1125537573.556387.298610@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Randy & Sherry Guttery Message-ID: Date: Thu, 1 Sep 2005 21:46:25 -0400 "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1125537573.556387.298610@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Your landlord will make an exception. Especially you produce a request > from the Red Cross. However, this type of response is seldom suitable > either for the giver or the receiver, other sorts of responses may be > more appropriate. Let them tell you what they need most based on their > specific needs. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > If you're referring to "my" landlord, you don't know him too well. IF I could have moved anyone else in, my own daughter would have been here - already. I've been looking for a place to buy here, but nothing of interest yet. jm Article: 321859 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 21:54:58 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: One more way to clean out the shop References: <1125534355.902514.292380@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Blacksmith wrote: > On 31 Aug 2005 17:25:55 -0700, "AuroraOldRadios" > wrote: > > >>I was in New Orleans in March of '99 on a business trip for US West. I >>was amazed that the city was able to keep the water out. I always had >>the feeling that the boats on the river were above me.... > > > They were! > > .... > Blacksmith I spent three months there in 1972. Intriguing city. Also visited the Gulf Shore where those little towns like Pass Christian, Bay St. Louis, etc were still recovering from Camille. This current disaster really hit home when I saw a photo with street signs still visible over a flooded intersection. That identified it as being 10 blocks from where I was staying. Sad, Bill Article: 321860 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jhill" Subject: Re: One more way to clean out the shop Date: Wed, 31 Aug 2005 20:58:42 -0500 Message-ID: References: Yes in another disaster, some radio station person got into the act and begged for diapers and formula for the babies. With no power for refigeratioin and no dry warehose to store the disposable diapers coming in, what do you think happened to themt? If they had the money, they could have bought it as needed and served other needs in addition to the babies. "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:o_CdnZ2dnZ31zencnZ2dnVjDi96dnZ2dRVn-0J2dnZ0@giganews.com... > In the news reports I've heard, the relief agencies ask that you send money > . . . not stuff. They can decide what's needed at that end. > > Phil > >