Article: 322156 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Using radio tech to help study the Big Bang References: <1126106195.9617dd87120e4342837dcd672c8d00f1@teranews> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 16:02:40 GMT Paul Dietenberger wrote: > The reason I thought of this group is the discussion about > the antenna array, and what the researchers had to do > to eliminate RFI in the neighborhood of the antennas. Yeah, it was an interesting read. Nice antenna array. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 322157 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Microwave oven power From: Wayne Boatwright References: <8dednXP07uDTuoTeRVn-ig@aros.net> <1079-43193200-520@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <95idnbY9058rp4TeRVn-1w@comcast.com> <1126098667.173422.77950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: 7 Sep 2005 18:09:29 +0200 On Wed 07 Sep 2005 06:44:03a, Gordon Richmond wrote in rec.antiques.radio+phono: > Actually, it's not that simple. I might be reheating a cup of coffee, > and while that's going on, I sit down at the computer and get into > some work. So I would have to interrupt my train of though and flow of > work to get up and open the microwave door to silence the damn-fool > bleater. > > And it just plain isn't necessary. What's the worst-case scenario if > you leave an an item in the microwave for days on end after it's > cooked. So it spoils and smells up the place? A little clean-up job > will take care of that. > > This is a "feature" that ranks right up there with the key-in buzzer > on cars for the PITA quotient. > > Gordon Richmond LOL! You are easily perturbed. -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* ____________________________________________ Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day. Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974 Article: 322158 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Looking for John Bartley From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 16:42:28 GMT Anyone have an email address for John Bartley?.... thanks John k9uwa email addy for us is k9uwa at arrl dot net Article: 322159 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 12:47:31 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Looking for John Bartley References: Message-ID: <1d8d3$431f19a7$4232bd4f$7446@COQUI.NET> John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > Anyone have an email address for John Bartley?.... > > thanks > John k9uwa > > email addy for us is k9uwa at arrl dot net > > oldrad at sympatico dot ca Article: 322160 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Another "Arts & Cra(p)fts" Project References: <1126104305.084232.262270@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1126110354.598792.115560@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 17:14:03 GMT David wrote: > The 2005-2006 catalog from AES has nine of them on the cover. I > wondered where they got them from..lol I thought I remembered seeing them on the cover. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 322161 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <11ht4hd67fdqda9@corp.supernews.com> <1126097339.939455.283440@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126098667.521276.267610@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126099088.644237.169160@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Bob Denver gone Message-ID: <6gFTe.7412$Wd7.3164@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 17:16:50 GMT Actually they indeed did recharge the batteries. I recall several occasions where the professor kept filling the homemade batteries with some sort of juice to keep the radio going. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Steven" wrote in message news:1126099088.644237.169160@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... >I think we went over that a couple of years ago. Nobody could seem to > ID this set properly, likely because it was probably a small AC table > set modified to look like it ran on batteries, and vague looking on > purpose. Were there any references during the show's run to if it was > transistorized or a tube set? I can't remember, but I never saw them > recharge any batteries either. The radio was a nameless prop for all > the futile rescue attempts not a real part of the show otherwise. > Article: 322162 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1126106195.9617dd87120e4342837dcd672c8d00f1@teranews> Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Using radio tech to help study the Big Bang Message-ID: Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 17:22:37 GMT Theory: The entire universe began as a great big electrolytic, and a reverse static charge built up . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:AaETe.10167$UE2.9505@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > Paul Dietenberger wrote: >> The reason I thought of this group is the discussion about >> the antenna array, and what the researchers had to do >> to eliminate RFI in the neighborhood of the antennas. > > Yeah, it was an interesting read. Nice antenna array. > > Jeff > > -- > "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary > safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin > "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." > Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 322163 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: [O.T.] Re: Thanks for the reminder! References: <1125615837.168630.234920@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8OqdnaFCFpNaU4reRVn-rw@adelphia.com> <1125669853.309991.125890@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 17:56:48 GMT Robert Murrell wrote: > "Carter-K8VT" wrote in message news:WS0Se.7955$sF6.3001@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net... >> AuroraOldRadios wrote: >> >> >>> Most reasonable people now believe our action was wrong. "Victory", yeah, that was stupid. But how do we get out of this >>> mess? > > > > In Californica maybe. The distinction between good and evil requires > setting absolutes, something a liberal can not do. Therefore, it is > OK if they attack us first, because we deserve it (moral > equivallency). Please check the header; that portion was written by "AuroraOldRadios", not me. Therefore I cannot respond. >> The short answer is: We don't. But wait...who ever said our >> administration *wants* to get out? >> >> As you pointed out above--- >> >> *BOGUS* reasons for the "war": >> >> --WMDs (even disavowed by the administration themselves in >> December, 2004) > > > > Even Clinton was pushing this one. And remember, he was the one who > fired on Osama first. Remember the "2 million dollar missle fired at > a ten dollar tent and hitting a camel in the butt." But Clinton is history, he's gone ,he's out of the picture and *he* didn't start the war. Thus, your response is a non sequitur. The current administration that *did* start the war (based on the WMD "excuse") actually admitted themselves in December of '04 that there *WERE NO WMDs*. This is a closed, non-debatable issue per the administration itself. Why are you beating a dead horse? [As an aside, Iraq is (or at least was) a sovereign nation and sovereign nations can have WMDs (even though Iraq didn't). There are at least a dozen and probably more nations out there that *do* have WMDs. Should we go to war with them?] >> --Saddam was a bad guy...(even though we may be fast approaching >> killing as many innocent Iraqis as Saddam ever did). > Tell that to the Kurds and the Shiites. Why don't you do some > research on the number of his citizens he killed with WMDs (chemical > weapons). Tell that to the innocent Iraqi civilians we killed. I'm not saying Saddam wasn't a bad guy, two bit tin horn dictator, but the world is full of those and you just can't invade every sovereign nation because of that. Again, we are fast approaching the point where we have killed as many or more innocent civilians than Saddam. I truly miss your point on this one unless you are trying to say that "two wrongs make a right". > Remember, the number of US troops killed has not yet > reached the number of Americans killed on 9/11. Huh? What does that have to do with anything? It has been widely acknowledged by media of all stripes that Iraq had *no* tie-in with 9/11. (other than in the most trivial way, like Saddam might have met Bin Laden. For that matter, look at the 1983 picture of a smiling Rumsfeld with his arm around Saddam). If I may refresh your memory, 15 of the 19 mad dog 9/11 crazies were from--are you ready?--Saudi Arabia! (and *none* from Iraq). Logic would seem to dictate that we should be at war with the Saudis, if anyone. >> --the fraudulent "yellowcake" scandal > Which (surprise) turned out to be true, but is a fact convieniently > ignored by the liberals. This IS a surprise. Even the "liberal" Wall Street Journal concedes the point that the whole yellowcake affair was indeed a fraud, based on a counterfeit document. It seems you are beating another dead horse. >> *REAL* reasons for us being in Iraq [1]: >> >> --A *fantastic* geopolitical location in the Middle East; a great strategic location for our bases. > > > > Lebenon would be a MUCH better location, Huh??? How did you get on the topic of Lebanon?? The war already is in Iraq, our kids are getting killed and maimed in Iraq. What in Heaven's name does Lebanon have to do with anything? >> --An oil reserve possibly as large as that in Saudi Arabia. > > > > Why didn't we just invade Veneuela if we wanted oil? We could have > just driven there. You missed the point--we didn't go there for *just* the oil. You have to look at the *entire package* of assets. >> --The largest supply of fresh water in the Middle East (Tigris and >> Euphrates rivers). > Well, I can't argue with that. But that area is the traditional > SOURCE of invading armies What is your point here? Just because something was that way in the past, it doesn't mean it has to be (or is) that way now. Again, look at the *entire* package--water, oil, strategic location, opportunity. >> Why don't we have an exit strategy? ... because with reasons like >> that, the administration *doesn't want* to exit. > I don't believe anyone ever thought that they would be slaughtering > their own kind. This is a point worthy of an entire debate on its own, but briefly... Some of the "insurgents" are really "freedom fighters", fighting against what they view as invaders and occupiers of their sovereign nation and thus, sadly, are bombing our troops. Probably what you and I would do if someone invaded *our* nation. Some others are "opportunist" terrorists coming in from other countries that are taking advantage of the situation and doing all they can to foment instability by bombing *everyone*. Unfortunately, our administration seems to have played right into the hands of Bin Laden by invading a sovereign Islamic nation and thus opening a real Pandora's Box. >> (Now if the administration could just find a way around all those inconvenient dead bodies and the maiming and crippling of our >> youth). > > > > No one said war was easy. Nor did anyone say we should go to war and invade a sovereign nation and have our kids maimed and killed based on bogus, trumped up reasons. Article: 322164 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" References: <1126061061.221705.293410@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1126099280.619069.133190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1126109458.755085.291450@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Empire of the Air - The Men Who Made Radio Message-ID: <3lGTe.5982$mH.1245@fed1read07> Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 11:30:24 -0700 "Like a juicy page-turner, Ken Burns's two-hour documentary on the history of radio is packed with tantalizing ingredients: power, greed, broken friendships, narcissistic heroes, and tragic players." Highly recommended as is anything by Ken Burns See http://www.amazon.com/ Empire Of The Air - The Men Who Made Radio -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! Article: 322165 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Microwave oven power Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 20:34:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <8dednXP07uDTuoTeRVn-ig@aros.net> <1079-43193200-520@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <95idnbY9058rp4TeRVn-1w@comcast.com> In Gordon Richmond writes: >One pet peeve of mine concerning microwaves is that so many of them >like to "nag" you with a double-beep signal every minute or so once >they've done cooking an item, and the door has not been opened. I've had friends who store mugs of coffee in their microwave. They'd reheat a cup, then go off and do something else and forget about it. I'd go to use their microwave and find a cold cup of coffee inside. :) Perhaps this feature was designed for them. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322166 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: B Battery eliminator voltage controls From: haynes@alumni.uark.edu (Jim Haynes) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 20:30:47 GMT I have a couple of old B-Battery eliminators. They have multi-turn controls on the front to adjust detector and intermediate amplifier plate voltages. One of these is broken open, and contains a bunch of silvery granular material. So I assume they work like a carbon microphone, compressing the material reduces the resistance. However they all show open circuit with an ohmmeter. Anybody know what these things are? -- jhhaynes at earthlink dot net Article: 322167 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Christian M. Mericle Subject: Re: Man Shocked with 2000 Volts/30 Sec. and lives Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 14:43:28 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1126112004.672851.265280@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 7 Sep 2005 09:53:24 -0700, "toxcrusadr" wrote: >http://apnews.excite.com/article/20050906/D8CF12200.html > >Ow! Ow! It hurts just to think about it. Let's be careful out there, >folks. Reminds me of the first electric chair. They lit the guy up w/ 2000 volts for 17 seconds or so. Didn't kill him so they zapped him for another 4 minutes. That did the job. -- Christian Article: 322168 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Man Shocked with 2000 Volts/30 Sec. and lives Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 17:00:13 -0400 Message-ID: <11hul7esqojpm1c@news.supernews.com> References: <1126112004.672851.265280@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Christian M. Mericle" wrote in message news:e5kuh1dovtke6229ior9a5ai6faqv3q64g@4ax.com... > Reminds me of the first electric chair. They lit the guy up w/ 2000 > volts for 17 seconds or so. Didn't kill him so they zapped him for > another 4 minutes. That did the job. > > -- Christian Yeah, I hate it when that happens. "Is he done yet, Ralph?" Article: 322169 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: foxtrot Subject: Question on fixing old TVs Message-ID: Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 21:08:10 GMT I have a Sentinel 400 TV that I am restoring and have a question about the high voltage caps in the deflection circuit of the 7JP4 tube. There are two .001 6kv and two .005 6kv oil filled caps that were very leaky. I replaced these with .001 10kv disc caps. I had to parallel several of these to get the .005. Set has a good bright picture, but there are vertical linearity problems and height of raster is only about 3 inches with foldover at top and bottom that cannot be adjusted out. All other paper caps were removed and some of the high ohms resistors in the vertical circuit were replaced. There is slight amount of hum bars in the picture, but jumping electrolytics with known good ones did not help. I have ran into similar problems with these deflection tvs and I wonder if using the ceramic discs is the problem? The schematic is in Sams #73 folder 11. John Article: 322170 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: foxtrot Subject: Re: Question on fixing old TVs Message-ID: References: <1126127627.319855.6000@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 21:41:11 GMT On 7 Sep 2005 14:13:47 -0700, "Steve McVoy" wrote: >Yes, that is the problem. You need to use tubular capacitors in the >vertical section. Where can I get 6KV tubular caps? Article: 322171 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Microwave oven power Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 21:42:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <8dednXP07uDTuoTeRVn-ig@aros.net> <1079-43193200-520@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <95idnbY9058rp4TeRVn-1w@comcast.com> <1126098667.173422.77950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> In Tom Adkins writes: >To keep this more OT, does anyone actually use their >microwave for cooking? If not, there's other things you can do. "Unwise Microwave Oven Experiments": http://www.amasci.com/weird/microexp.html On a serious note, I like the way the guy worded the disclaimer at the top. Things like this can get people interested in physics. The carrot being that if you learn enough, you can do cool stuff! :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322172 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: AntiqueRadios.com Server down? Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 21:43:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <5hsqh196kmhhogttmmotbo5j129geksu9a@4ax.com> <82d54$431e4e56$4232bdce$7706@COQUI.NET> <4NKdnWSGsPBm04PeRVn-3A@bresnan.com> <1126069867.072257.88680@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126074393.515012.294620@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <81c93$431e8c02$4232bd26$13829@COQUI.NET> In <81c93$431e8c02$4232bd26$13829@COQUI.NET> -ex- writes: >tubbytwo wrote: >> Hacked, as in broken in to? Has someone gotten in to all our personal >> stuff, like nicknames, email addys or worse, our opinions? I sure hope >> not! I think Alan was just doing some house cleaning and tripped over >> the cord and unplugged the modem. >> >Maybe its fund-raising time again. Nah. That's when you get the "best of" posts repeated for a few weeks. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322173 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Microwave oven power Message-ID: References: <8dednXP07uDTuoTeRVn-ig@aros.net> <1079-43193200-520@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <95idnbY9058rp4TeRVn-1w@comcast.com> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 21:49:39 GMT " I've had friends who store mugs of coffee in their microwave. They'd reheat a cup, then go off and do something else and forget about it. I'd go to use their microwave and find a cold cup of coffee inside. :) Perhaps this feature was designed for them." No doubt it was. Heck, I've done that myself. But when does the feature cease to be a helpful reminder and start becoming a nag? If the manufacturers made the reminder beep a switchable option, then those of us who don't want the irritation could switch it off. Gordon Richmond Article: 322174 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: primeuser Subject: Re: Temporary Wednesday night antiqueradios.com chatroom replacement Message-ID: <6mquh1l2pttlea8sdc0im8qrg9i28m8l11@4ax.com> References: <1126071225.186164.205280@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 22:35:16 GMT On 6 Sep 2005 22:33:45 -0700, "Mark M" wrote: >A temporary chatroom is up & running for those who might have >withdrawl. ;) > >Here is the adress: http://client0.sigmachat.com/sc.pl?id=108514 > >Not sure how many of the regulars or irregulars read the Newsgroup. > > >Hopefully the site will not be down too long thanks to a few pricks. > >Special thanks to Matthew Gillie for setting up the temporary room. > > >Mark M Thanks for setting this up! I'll be there tonight! Article: 322175 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Empire of the Air Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 22:42:25 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1126061061.221705.293410@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1126099016.027676.66480@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1126099016.027676.66480@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "RadioGary" writes: >I highly recommend buying the DVD put out by PBS. It's available at >most bookstores in major areas, and online as well. No not selling a >product. Just as a suggestion. As an old radio collector I enjoy >digging it out and watching it every so often. It's an excellent >flick. Absolutely. The opening sequence alone of a lightning storm fading to a shot of a glowing audion is well worthwhile. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322176 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Empire of the Air Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 22:45:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1126061061.221705.293410@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1126099280.619069.133190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1126109458.755085.291450@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126109897.860960.119980@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> In <1126109897.860960.119980@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "Steven" writes: >Pioneer DV-C603 carousel that I've waited to buy at the pawn store for >over two months. Oof. Don't buy a carousel player, DVD or CD. I've never seen one that's not problematic, and they appear to be the cheapest of build. For the dubious feature of not having to walk a couple of feet every two hours or so you get a world of trouble. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322177 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Man Shocked with 2000 Volts/30 Sec. and lives Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 22:57:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1126112004.672851.265280@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11hul7esqojpm1c@news.supernews.com> In <11hul7esqojpm1c@news.supernews.com> "Buck Frobisher" writes: >"Christian M. Mericle" wrote in message >news:e5kuh1dovtke6229ior9a5ai6faqv3q64g@4ax.com... >> Reminds me of the first electric chair. They lit the guy up w/ 2000 >> volts for 17 seconds or so. Didn't kill him so they zapped him for >> another 4 minutes. That did the job. >> >> -- Christian >Yeah, I hate it when that happens. "Is he done yet, Ralph?" Anybody remember the electric chairs for hotdogs? That gets my vote for the dumbest consumer appliance, ever. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322178 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <8dednXP07uDTuoTeRVn-ig@aros.net> <1079-43193200-520@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <95idnbY9058rp4TeRVn-1w@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Microwave oven power Message-ID: <1mKTe.315149$x96.173887@attbi_s72> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 23:04:29 GMT Hi! > My own microwave at home doesn't do this, but most the new little ones > do. Disabling the beeper really doesn't address this problem. Yep...seen that. There's an otherwise very nice GE machine at work that does this little trick. I doubt that I can remove the beeper on it without getting into big trouble, so I either leave the room or hit "any key" on the keypad. That tends to shut it up. William Article: 322179 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <8dednXP07uDTuoTeRVn-ig@aros.net> <1079-43193200-520@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <95idnbY9058rp4TeRVn-1w@comcast.com> <1126098667.173422.77950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Microwave oven power Message-ID: Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 23:09:12 GMT Hi! > I'm usually there at the end beep, so is seems like a useless feature. My mother, > on the other hand, has a habit heating coffee\tea or thawing meet and totally > forgetting about it. A fog horn sounding every few minutes would be suitable on her oven. I think my old GE oven has a nice compromise. It beeps three times a couple of seconds apart at the end and then that is it. I may not hear the first one, but the other beeps usually get my attention. > To keep this more OT, does anyone actually use their microwave for cooking? I do and > love it. Sort of. I have some recipe books from Amana and other microwave manufacturers. I have tried some of the items. That has been a long time ago though. Nowadays I use the temperature probe quite often to hold things at a certain temperature. It works nicely for that purpose. William Article: 322180 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Man Shocked with 2000 Volts/30 Sec. and lives Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 23:16:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1126112004.672851.265280@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11hul7esqojpm1c@news.supernews.com> In "William Sommerwerck" writes: >> Anybody remember the electric chairs for hotdogs? That gets >> my vote for the dumbest consumer appliance, ever. >I don't know about dumb, but the hot dogs didn't taste very good -- >especially at the ends near the zinc-plated prongs. Well, yeah, that's why I called them dumb. Electrophoresis is not something you need in the kitchen. >There's a Carl & Jerry story about their homebrew version of such a device, >which apparently predates the Presto, Westinghous, et al, commercial >versions. Who's Carl & Jerry? I know who Tom & Jerry are, plus, of course, Ben & Jerry... -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322181 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Microwave oven power Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 23:17:29 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <8dednXP07uDTuoTeRVn-ig@aros.net> <1079-43193200-520@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <95idnbY9058rp4TeRVn-1w@comcast.com> <1mKTe.315149$x96.173887@attbi_s72> In <1mKTe.315149$x96.173887@attbi_s72> "William R. Walsh" writes: >Yep...seen that. There's an otherwise very nice GE machine at work that does >this little trick. I doubt that I can remove the beeper on it without >getting into big trouble, Stuff in offices breaks all the time for mysterious reasons. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322182 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Man Shocked with 2000 Volts/30 Sec. and lives References: <1126112004.672851.265280@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11hul7esqojpm1c@news.supernews.com> Message-ID: <9XKTe.4177$Gh.2355@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 23:44:05 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > Anybody remember the electric chairs for hotdogs? That gets > my vote for the dumbest consumer appliance, ever. Ahhh, the "Hot Dogger." Probably the best wedding gift I received (the first time around.) Of course, once we opened the package, we HAD to see what happens when you leave the dogs in too long. First they sweat. Then they swell. Then they split. But your patience is rewarded. Then they dry out and start arcing internally before bursting into flames. Seems I remember putting an egg in my first microwave too. I'll be...They really DO explode and coat the inside of the oven with goo. Of course, if you let them cook for another minute, it's REALLY easy to clean up. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 322183 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Man Shocked with 2000 Volts/30 Sec. and lives References: <1126112004.672851.265280@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11hul7esqojpm1c@news.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 23:45:29 GMT Popular electronics I think. A regular pair of kids that had "exciting adventures" Jeff William Sommerwerck wrote: >>Who's Carl & Jerry? I know who Tom & Jerry are, plus, >>of course, Ben & Jerry... > > > How old are you? I'll leave it to someone else to explain... > > -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 322184 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <1126112004.672851.265280@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11hul7esqojpm1c@news.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Man Shocked with 2000 Volts/30 Sec. and lives Message-ID: Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 17:46:41 -0700 We had a homebrewed one at a place I used to work at (the bank will remain nameless!!!) ... It was two forks, with an extension cord connected to each one. Then a small amount of friction tape (for safety). You got a hot dog from the fridge, plugged the forks into each end, then plugged in the extension cord... less then a minute later... A warm hot dog!!!! For further thrills, we had a coffee warmer that boiled the coffee in your cup. This was a calrod, bent into a circle and attached to an extension cord, no friction tape, but a ratty old wooden handle... Lots of fun in the old days (circa 1978).....I never got a shock, but I did get warm dogs for midnight shift dinner!!! bob in phx... "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:dfnsbg$e5i$1@reader1.panix.com... > In "William Sommerwerck" > writes: > >>> Anybody remember the electric chairs for hotdogs? That gets >>> my vote for the dumbest consumer appliance, ever. > >>I don't know about dumb, but the hot dogs didn't taste very good -- >>especially at the ends near the zinc-plated prongs. > > Well, yeah, that's why I called them dumb. Electrophoresis > is not something you need in the kitchen. > >>There's a Carl & Jerry story about their homebrew version of such a >>device, >>which apparently predates the Presto, Westinghous, et al, commercial >>versions. > > Who's Carl & Jerry? I know who Tom & Jerry are, plus, of > course, Ben & Jerry... > > -- > Tim Mullen > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. > ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322185 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Off Topic but audio related: Dolby on DVD players vs. Prologic Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 19:36:32 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1126114817.963230.129510@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126115107.688208.155960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7JGdnSpJhqdV6YLeRVn-gQ@comcast.com> "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:7JGdnSpJhqdV6YLeRVn-gQ@comcast.com... >> I'[m asking because I have 4.0 Surround and and RCA Prologic receiver >> and am tired of reading all sorts of lit. that doesn't sort out a lot, >> so do I have what I needed for my "new" DVD player? Those of you with >> them I could hope will help a newbie with the subject, 'cause I am >> ready to roll with it. Thanks. > > I just bought a top-end Sony DVD player (for a ridiculously low price, > because it was black). It includes a Dolby Pro-Logic decoder, a Dolby > Digital decoder, and a DTS decoder. Any of these will work with a 4.0 > system > _if_ you have speaker management, either in the receiver or player. This > player happens to have it. without actually looking at the thing, there are really only two possible scenareos. at best you can configure it in the dvd player to pump both l/r rears to one channel, and the sub through the lr mains. if it truly is a 4.0 system you only have inputs for l/r front, center, and rear with no sub. so by definition it wont have the required input jacks to downconvert a 5.1 signal and configuration at the amp is out. if you cannot adequately configure the speakers in the dvd player (most will allow a 2 channel stereo, but most wont let you specify things like no center channel and no sub, but some do...), you will be trying to find ways to stuff 2 rear channels into 1 on the receiver, and then trying to figure out where to put the sub output from the dvd player. at that point its probably best to just run it as a 2 channel stereo system and saving up for a 5.1 amp (which are cheap these days) randy Article: 322186 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Empire of the Air Date: Wed, 7 Sep 2005 19:51:23 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1126061061.221705.293410@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1126099280.619069.133190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1126109458.755085.291450@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126109897.860960.119980@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:dfnqhc$5jv$2@reader1.panix.com... > In <1126109897.860960.119980@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "Steven" > writes: > >>Pioneer DV-C603 carousel that I've waited to buy at the pawn store for >>over two months. > > Oof. Don't buy a carousel player, DVD or CD. I've never seen > one that's not problematic, and they appear to be the cheapest of > build. For the dubious feature of not having to walk a couple of > feet every two hours or so you get a world of trouble. randys rule of music (no, really. these rules have existed for years): no matter how many cd's/tapes you have in your car, you've listened to them all and are sick of them. corrilary to randys rule of music: what you want to listen to right now has virtually no chance of being one of the 6 cd's in the changer right now and its 10 times more of a pain to put a cd in the changer than a single cd unit. randy Article: 322187 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Man Shocked with 2000 Volts/30 Sec. and lives From: Larry References: <1126112004.672851.265280@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 22:12:40 -0400 Steve J wrote in news:k4vuh1pirb81tnn1dklq4786t89b8fa8ks@4ax.com: > The first electric chair was right here in Auburn NY. I sat in the > copy they had here once. No one flipped the switch though (although > there are a couple of people here that I am sure wished they did). > > Hello, Auburn. I was born in Cortland, raised in Moravia at SE on Owasco...(c; Great place to be "from"....now live in Charleston, SC. (It snowed here 3 years ago for a few minutes...(c;) (Hurricane Ophelia will be here next week!) -- Larry Article: 322188 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Man Shocked with 2000 Volts/30 Sec. and lives From: Larry References: <1126112004.672851.265280@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126136826.261135.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 22:15:43 -0400 "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in news:1126136826.261135.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > So you think stubbing your toe on the bed hurts? Wonder what he stubbed > his toe on? > The local police here have Tasers. They say the gangbangers call them > "the electric chair" and avoid them. I guess they will bring down even > the meanest, toughest dude. > > A little old lady in Rock Hill, SC, refused to leave a nursing home until they told her what they did with her friend. The nursing home called the cops who took their Tazers to this dangerous-looking geriatric woman of 80- something and killed her. Stupid cops should NOT be allowed around any voltage higher than 6V. -- Larry Article: 322189 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Microwave oven power From: Larry References: <8dednXP07uDTuoTeRVn-ig@aros.net> <1079-43193200-520@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <95idnbY9058rp4TeRVn-1w@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 07 Sep 2005 22:18:45 -0400 "William R. Walsh" wrote in news:FjsTe.90112$084.62397@attbi_s22: > Fiddlesticks. Microwaves are long-lived devices. > > I agree. There's a vintage Amana Radarange in my kitchen that doesn't put out "warming" RF at 400W like the new ones. It puts out 2450 Mhz at 2.5KW! It COOKS food, not reheats it...(c; There's something wrong with any microwave oven that doesn't dim the lights in the living room when you press ON.....hee hee. -- Larry Article: 322190 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Man Shocked with 2000 Volts/30 Sec. and lives Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 02:49:27 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1126112004.672851.265280@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126136826.261135.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In "Sal D'Ambra" writes: >The Comment about the electric hot dog cooker reminded me of something that >happened when I was in college getting my BSEE. My lab partner comes in and >has little burn spots all over his face and I ask him what happened. >He told me "Did you ever hear of those electric hot dog cookers which >connect the hot dog directly to 110VAC? Well I took some jumper clips and >nails at work the other day and yes, you can cook a hot dog in 60 seconds on >110 VAC. So I wondered what would happen if you double the voltage to 220. >At twice the voltage you should have four times the power and the hot dog >should cook in 15 seconds. >"So does it?" I asked >"Well it does. So then I thought about the 440 VAC mains. Doubling the >voltage again should cook the hot dog in 3.75 seconds." He answers >"So did it cook that fast?" I asked >"No it exploded and splashed me with boiling juice." he answered C|N>K! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322191 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Re: SW portable radios References: <1125952366.412833.39330@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1125955770.106757.31390@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 02:56:33 GMT Hello, I can recommend the Grundig Mini 300 PE. It has analog tuning with digital frequency display and covers AM-FM and SW in 7 bands. It's sensitivity and selectivity are very good for the price. With the Sangean portable long-wire antenna, it's reception is improved, even indoors. More information can be found here: http://www.etoncorp.com/US/products/product.aspx?catID=2&subCatID=6&prodID=26 Overall, I believe the Mini 300 PE is a good value. Good features and specs in a small, affordable package. Later, Bobby Jeff, WB8NHV wrote: > Steven, > > The tuning is rather awkward on radios such as the small Grundigs and > Sangeans (with analog tuning; the ones with digital readout shouldn't > be that bad, and the receivers with direct-entry keypads ought to be > the easiest of all to bring right on any frequency). > > I don't know, myself, how one would go about changing the tuning rate > of a Grundig or Sangean with analog tuning. I would imagine the tuning > rate is pretty much set at the factory and is not easily altered. It is > very difficult, if possible at all, to alter the tuning rate of a > digital receiver if the set isn't designed for variable-rate tuning > (10, 5, 1 kHz, for example); some expensive SW receivers and many > amateur transceivers, however, are equipped for such fine tuning. The > large SW sets designed for shortwave listening and amateur use, such as > Hallicrafters, Hammarlund, etc. were in fact designed with either > mechanical or electrical bandspread tuning. The receiver in my first > ham radio station was a Hallicrafters SX101A (ham bands only) with a > gear-reduction tuning drive, which allowed for very fine tuning. This > set also had a crystal calibrator and a pointer reset control, both of > which were used to set the tuning indicator precisely on a known > frequency (usually WWV--the SX-101 had a separate receive-only WWV > position on the bandswitch). > > That you cannot receive WWV on even a small Grundig is interesting, > as these radios are built for distance (at least their older ones were; > I'm not sure about the newer SS receivers, as I've only owned one > Grundig--a model 2168 tube-operated table model, thirty years ago). > The only other thing I can think of (besides my next suggestion) is > that you may have been trying to hear WWV in the store, where there is > usually a great deal of computer CPU hash and other assorted > interference which will mask all but very strong signals. > > Are you trying to receive the station on, say, 5.0 MHz in the > daytime? Try WWV's 10, 15 or 20 MHz transmissions until sunset; one > should give you decent reception. After dark, the 5.0 MHz transmitter > should be audible. > > Kind regards, > > Jeff, WB8NHV > Fairport Harbor, Ohio USA > Article: 322192 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Man Shocked with 2000 Volts/30 Sec. and lives Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 02:58:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1126112004.672851.265280@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126136826.261135.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126147951.749398.171300@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In <1126147951.749398.171300@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Steven" writes: >C|N>K! >Is that a technical term? ============================================================================ panix5.panix.com>7% dict "C|N>K" 1 definition found >From Jargon File (4.3.1, 29 Jun 2001) [jargon]: C|N>K n. [Usenet] Coffee through Nose to Keyboard; that is, "I laughed so hard I {snarf}ed my coffee onto my keyboard.". Common on alt.fan.pratchett and {scary devil monastery}; recognized elsewhere. The Acronymphomania FAQ (http://www.lspace.org/faqs/acronym-faq.g.html) on alt.fan.pratchett recognizes variants such as T|N>K = `Tea through Nose to Keyboard' and C|N>S = `Coffee through Nose to Screen'. ============================================================================ N.B. "|" is the pipe symbol. "dict" is a very, very handy command that connects to various dictionary servers via RFC-2229, the dict protocol. See http://www.dict.org/oldindex.html -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322193 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Re: SW portable radios References: <1125952366.412833.39330@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1125955770.106757.31390@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1126148780.440011.14240@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 03:09:34 GMT No. I mean the Mini 300 PE as I have it sitting right in front of me. The Mini 100 has a slide rule dial, the Mini 300 has a digital frequency display. Just follow the link to see what I am talking about. Bobby Steven wrote: > Are you sure you don't mean the Mini 100 PE? > Article: 322194 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DaveW Subject: Re: Empire of the Air - The Men Who Made Radio References: <1126061061.221705.293410@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1126099280.619069.133190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1126109458.755085.291450@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <3lGTe.5982$mH.1245@fed1read07> Message-ID: <1rPTe.92$hB2.34@trnddc08> Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 04:51:09 GMT Caveat Lector wrote: > "Like a juicy page-turner, Ken Burns's two-hour documentary on the history > of radio is packed with tantalizing ingredients: power, greed, broken > friendships, narcissistic heroes, and tragic players." > > Highly recommended as is anything by Ken Burns > > See http://www.amazon.com/ > Empire Of The Air - The Men Who Made Radio > My absolute recomendation is: watch the program, then READ THE BOOK! Great as the Ken Burns show is, the book has sooooo much more! It is out of print, IICR, but may be in your local library and certainly turns up on ebay. Regards, DAve Article: 322195 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DaveW Subject: Re: Man Shocked with 2000 Volts/30 Sec. and lives References: <1126112004.672851.265280@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11hul7esqojpm1c@news.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 04:56:18 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > In <11hul7esqojpm1c@news.supernews.com> "Buck Frobisher" writes: > > >>"Christian M. Mericle" wrote in message >>news:e5kuh1dovtke6229ior9a5ai6faqv3q64g@4ax.com... >> >>>Reminds me of the first electric chair. They lit the guy up w/ 2000 >>>volts for 17 seconds or so. Didn't kill him so they zapped him for >>>another 4 minutes. That did the job. >>> >>>-- Christian > > >>Yeah, I hate it when that happens. "Is he done yet, Ralph?" > > > Anybody remember the electric chairs for hotdogs? That gets > my vote for the dumbest consumer appliance, ever. > I don't know. We had one when I was a kid. It cooked the hot dogs quickly and it had an interlock so you couldn't kill yourself. But, as Wm S. points out, the hot dogs didn't come out so good. No worse than boiling or steaming, except for a metallic taste near the ends, but for me, there's no point in a hot dog that has not been browned on a grill. Grilled onions and non-nasty-American-Cadmium yellow-mustard are almost mandatory. Regards, DAve Article: 322196 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "effi" Subject: Re: Bob Denver gone Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 01:42:35 -0500 Message-ID: <11hvnap7uu6fkf9@corp.supernews.com> References: <11ht4hd67fdqda9@corp.supernews.com> <1126097339.939455.283440@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Steven" wrote in message news:1126097339.939455.283440@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > It doesn't say when the bust was nor if it was related to his cancer. > I'd take it Bob was a private person who didn't want people fussing > over his problems as it detracted from his family life. http://www.marijuananews.com/marijuananews/cowan/a_year_in_the_life_of_marijuana_.htm " 6/4/98 Bob Denver, star of "Gilligan's Island," is arrested at his home for receiving one ounce of marijuana through the mail." Article: 322197 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Looking for John Bartley From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1d8d3$431f19a7$4232bd4f$7446@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 12:37:29 GMT In article <1d8d3$431f19a7$4232bd4f$7446@COQUI.NET>, exray@coqui.net says... > > >John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > >> Anyone have an email address for John Bartley?.... Thanks Bill John k9uwa Article: 322198 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: How to install a computer into an old radio Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 06:37:25 -0600 Message-ID: <18566-43203085-214@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: Now someone stuff an old radio in a computer . Article: 322199 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Empire of the Air - The Men Who Made Radio Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 06:44:46 -0600 Message-ID: <18568-4320323E-12@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1rPTe.92$hB2.34@trnddc08> I saw this last time it was on and recorded it . Very good show in deed I think its full of old music clips too . There is nothing wrong with many disc changer players . The 5 disk carrousel ones are the most dependable . Stay away from the real cheap brands . Article: 322200 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <-eKdndx3YIwbOYLeRVn-rQ@comcast.com> Subject: Re: OT TV antenna rotor Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 08:21:22 -0700 "gb" wrote in message news:-eKdndx3YIwbOYLeRVn-rQ@comcast.com... > "Nelson Gietz" wrote in message > news:l%7Te.2466$qP3.25930@news1.mts.net... > > I've come into possession of a rotor that was used to swing a 16 foot deep > > fringe TV antenna. It seems in good shape, but the control box is gone. > > I > > figure it may have a use to swing a small solar panel array, but I'm > > wondering what voltage it used, and AC or DC? With the breadth of > > experience here, it seems someone should be able to give me an idea. The > > control cable was either four or five conductor... it's not here right > > now. > > Anyone? > > Nelson > > > Norm's Rotor Service (originally in Maryland) was sold last year to a group > in Alabama. Here is their web site - they survived the Katrina hurricane - > and the web site is still being hosted from New Orleans on reserve power ! > http://www.rotorservice.com/ > Thanks for the input, guys. This rotor may be a very old one. No brand on it now, and it's a rectangular kind of box rather than a bell configuration. I found Norm's site... quite a story about how they're dealing with the aftermath... but no sign of the rotor I have. Prolly have to check it further, maybe cut- and- try powering it up, if it's not just an old box of gears now. Nelson Article: 322201 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jm" References: <8dednXP07uDTuoTeRVn-ig@aros.net> <1079-43193200-520@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <95idnbY9058rp4TeRVn-1w@comcast.com> <8mn0i1tt8jh0cs7i0r8a8tcl4lfulk00ji@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Microwave oven power Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 12:28:28 -0400 "Andy Cuffe" wrote in message news:8mn0i1tt8jh0cs7i0r8a8tcl4lfulk00ji@4ax.com... > On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 21:49:39 GMT, Gordon Richmond > wrote: > > >>If the manufacturers made the reminder beep a switchable option, then >>those of us who don't want the irritation could switch it off. >> > > Good idea. It seems that everything is designed for the stupidest > among us. > Andy Cuffe > > baltimora@psu.edu <-- Use this address until 12/31/2005 > > acuffe@gmail.com <-- Use this address after 12/31/2005 I don't know.... the reminder can be a good thing. Suppose you got busy or called to the phone and "forgot" you had an item in there - something that could very easily happen. You come back and it is cold or maybe the cook time was affected if a meal to be brought out, fussed with and placed back in. Those rush around days or crammed days are good for people to "forget" there is something in the oven. I use mine too for a timer when cooking on the stove. That way my mind is free to do other things. I can set the timer for say 3-5 minutes to check on a pan of boiling water - rather than forget about it and it boil down. I don't know - "I" get pretty involved in many things and for me - the timer is a blessing. And yes, there have been times I ignored it, usually when zapping coffee and had to reheat it. The use of the timer doesn't have to be for "stupid" people - but rather those who are constantly bombarded with other distractions. It is user - friendly - in my book. Speaking of Microwaves. I had a bag of popcorn which didn't pop correctly. Yep - the timer went off as set, but just about the time it did, I had smoke billowing out of the microwave. The bag had all but caught fire. Seems the bag got stuck and didn't rotate properly or open. Ever since then, I've had a hell of an odor in the microwave. I placed a box of Baking Soda in to try to absorb it, and though the odor is diminished about 50% - 75% but it is still there. Any ideas? Washing it out won't do it. I washed it down from all the grease - already which leaked out. The odor is from what got into the oven innards. jm Article: 322202 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "effi" Subject: Re: Bob Denver gone Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 11:30:18 -0500 Message-ID: <11i0poq7mhma3e9@corp.supernews.com> References: <11ht4hd67fdqda9@corp.supernews.com> <1126097339.939455.283440@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11hvnap7uu6fkf9@corp.supernews.com> <1126167933.915545.304210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Steven" wrote in message news:1126167933.915545.304210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > The man was very embarrassed about it and has admitted freely that he > make a real big mistake. Must you be trashy and crucify a dead person > when there is noting to really squawk about? nothing trashy about facts nothing was insinuated you have something inside you that you want to project on others consider counseling, you will feel better afterwards, and less likely to lash out at those you don't know for making innocuous comments Article: 322203 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gene" Subject: Contacting NostalgiaAir Date: 08 Sep 2005 13:19:25 EDT Message-ID: Hi, all: Help@NostalgiaAir.org bounces, anyone know how to get in touch with them? Thanks! -Gene Article: 322204 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "radionutz" Subject: SAMs wanted Message-ID: Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 18:16:17 GMT Hey; Does anyone out there have a SAMs 458 or AR11? I have a Motorola car radio from about 1947 with the only number that I can find being 301 and as near as I can tell it should be in one of the above sets. I have a few Sams but they only go back to 461. No help there. THANKS, DON -- Check out my web site at: www.home.earthlink.net/~dmign/index.htm Article: 322205 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: foxtrot Subject: Re: Question on fixing old TVs Message-ID: References: <1126127627.319855.6000@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 20:34:31 GMT On Wed, 7 Sep 2005 17:44:28 -0700, "Phil Nelson" wrote: >Another little footnote for future projects -- also avoid using ceramic >discs in horizontal circuits, where they may give you a case of the >"jitters." > >Phil Nelson > Thanks Phil, The horizontal on this set works much better than the vertical, but it is not perfect. The horizontal size is ok, but the vertical size is very compressed and folds over at top and bottom of the picture. The signal comes through good and a good picture could be had if I could fix the vertical. John Article: 322206 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gene" Subject: Re: Contacting NostalgiaAir Date: 08 Sep 2005 17:01:42 EDT Message-ID: References: <1126200748.684472.300180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Steven" wrote in message news:1126200748.684472.300180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > What was the code and message you got back? This could well you why. > It was:"host sfp.rlan.net[209.114.210.166] said: 550 Addressee is unknown " I forgot that they are in Florida, are there still outages from Katrina that could affect them? I'll try the postmaster address and see what happens. Thanks! -Gene Article: 322207 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gene" Subject: Re: Contacting NostalgiaAir Date: 08 Sep 2005 17:08:09 EDT Message-ID: References: <1126200748.684472.300180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Gene" wrote in message news:dfq8rm$1o2@dispatch.concentric.net... > > "Steven" wrote in message > news:1126200748.684472.300180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > What was the code and message you got back? This could well you why. > > > It was:"host sfp.rlan.net[209.114.210.166] said: 550 Addressee is unknown " > > I forgot that they are in Florida, are there still outages from Katrina that > could affect them? > I'll try the postmaster address and see what happens. Thanks! > > -Gene > > Nope, webmaster and postmaster bounce also. Maybe I'll just try snail mail. Thanks everyone. Article: 322208 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" Subject: Record Price for 9-tube Walton?? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 17:32:59 -0400 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6557014566 Just proves that original, un-Frankensteined examples of these sets are becoming much harder to find, and desirable!! Original finish, original tags on box and chassis, clean and working = $$$$$$! Pete Article: 322209 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: O/T Stereo Amp KABOOOM Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 06:50:48 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1126171866.373844.140210@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126192358.103414.202690@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Steven" wrote in message news:1126192358.103414.202690@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > You weren't playing "Bed of Roses", were you? > > I also recommend some Hank Thompson and Tom T Hall to compliment your > Statlers collection. Thanks for writing! > Way too much bass in Hank and Tom T.... I suggest that for longevity of speakers and ampifier, try some Marvin Rainwater.. no bass at all there. Of course, ear protection is recommended for long-term exposure. Article: 322210 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jm" References: <11ht4hd67fdqda9@corp.supernews.com> <1126097339.939455.283440@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11hvnap7uu6fkf9@corp.supernews.com> <1126167933.915545.304210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11i0poq7mhma3e9@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Bob Denver gone Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 18:01:14 -0400 "effi" wrote in message news:11i0poq7mhma3e9@corp.supernews.com... > "Steven" wrote in message > news:1126167933.915545.304210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> The man was very embarrassed about it and has admitted freely that he >> make a real big mistake. Must you be trashy and crucify a dead person >> when there is noting to really squawk about? > > > nothing trashy about facts > > nothing was insinuated > > you have something inside you that you want to project on others > > consider counseling, you will feel better afterwards, and less likely to > lash out at those you don't know for making innocuous comments > effi, believe me - consider the source. Maybe you're not familiar with ole Stevie.... he appears to be in need of meds. As to counseling, I don't think Frued (sp?) himself could solve this dude's problems. jm Article: 322211 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 18:31:45 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: How warm will a Iso Trans and a Variac get? References: Message-ID: Trey wrote: > All the items I need to build my Iso trans/variac setup should arrive > tomorrow. I was wondering how warm they get on average. My benches are > made of wood, and I would like to mount them to the bench, possibly mounting > the iso trans portion underneath. Any ideas? > > trey > > Don't know what size you bought and of course the load varies with the set under test. Suffice it to say, though, they should barely get warm. -Bill Article: 322212 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "effi" Subject: Re: Bob Denver gone Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 17:58:21 -0500 Message-ID: <11i1gg8nsbp9gb7@corp.supernews.com> References: <11ht4hd67fdqda9@corp.supernews.com> <1126097339.939455.283440@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11hvnap7uu6fkf9@corp.supernews.com> <1126167933.915545.304210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11i0poq7mhma3e9@corp.supernews.com> "jm" wrote > effi, believe me - consider the source. Maybe you're not familiar with ole > Stevie.... he appears to be in need of meds. > As to counseling, I don't think Frued (sp?) himself could solve this > dude's problems. > > jm his depleted mental state is becoming obvious, he is talking to himself on here now, lashing out at anyone who tries to communicate with him sure sign of inadequate development Article: 322213 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Contacting NostalgiaAir Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 23:00:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1126200748.684472.300180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In "Gene" writes: >"Steven" wrote in message >news:1126200748.684472.300180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> What was the code and message you got back? This could well you why. >> >It was:"host sfp.rlan.net[209.114.210.166] said: 550 Addressee is unknown " ^^^^^^^^^^^^ That's NostalgiaAir.com's primary mail exchanger: panix5.panix.com>10% nslookup -q=MX NostalgiaAir.com Server: 127.0.0.1 Address: 127.0.0.1#53 Non-authoritative answer: NostalgiaAir.com mail exchanger = 30 sf2.rlan.net. NostalgiaAir.com mail exchanger = 10 sfp.rlan.net. NostalgiaAir.com mail exchanger = 20 sf.rlan.net. So you reached the right machine, it just never heard of the user you were trying to mail. 500-series error codes are fatal, meaning don't bother trying again, you'll get the same answer insofar as the mail daemon is concerned. This does not, however, mean a human might not come along and add the user at a later date. See below. >I forgot that they are in Florida, are there still outages from Katrina that >could affect them? Shouldn't have anything to do with outages -- you got a successful connection to the correct destination. Maybe they didn't pay their bill? FWIW, I tried (by hand) both postmaster and webmaster names, which should ALWAYS be present (in fact, postmaster is REQUIRED) and they both failed. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322214 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Contacting NostalgiaAir Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 23:06:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1126200748.684472.300180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126215839.426275.301220@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In <1126215839.426275.301220@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Steven" writes: >info is one of the latest ones, as is admin There's nothing special about these names as far as recommended practices go; they're just user names that may or may not be available. But "postmaster" MUST be available. If that doesn't work there's something very, very wrong. This is not to say there ain't some joints out there that don't accept "postmaster", but those people oughta be kicked in the head. Or, at least, kicked off the Internet. And some sites accept anything at that domain. That's called wildcarding. A friend of mine does that to her sites, but I prefer to keep seperate addy's. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322215 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Record Price for 9-tube Walton?? Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 23:12:33 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In " Uncle Peter" writes: >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6557014566 >Just proves that original, un-Frankensteined examples of these >sets are becoming much harder to find, and desirable!! >Original finish, original tags on box and chassis, clean and working = >$$$$$$! Gorgeous. Beautiful condition. Are the tops normally "two tone" like this? http://i19.ebayimg.com/04/i/04/cd/6b/94_3.JPG I like that. I'd guess the slightly lighter top and sides wouldn't show up as well when not in direct sunlight, though. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322216 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:18:55 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Contacting NostalgiaAir References: <1126200748.684472.300180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <1097f$4320c6e4$4232bd4c$29067@COQUI.NET> Tim Mullen wrote: >>It was:"host sfp.rlan.net[209.114.210.166] said: 550 Addressee is unknown " > > > So you reached the right machine, it just never heard of > the user you were trying to mail. > > 500-series error codes are fatal, meaning don't bother > trying again, you'll get the same answer insofar as the > mail daemon is concerned. This does not, however, mean > a human might not come along and add the user at a later > date. See below. > > >>I forgot that they are in Florida, are there still outages from Katrina that >>could affect them? > > > Shouldn't have anything to do with outages -- you got > a successful connection to the correct destination. Maybe > they didn't pay their bill? FWIW, I tried (by hand) both > postmaster and webmaster names, which should ALWAYS be > present (in fact, postmaster is REQUIRED) and they both > failed. > I seem to recall that Richard moved the stuff after last year's hurricanes? Maybe he didn't setup all the email addresses that resolve to rlan.net. Try donations@nostalgiaair.com -Bill Article: 322217 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1126216425.375087.27910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Almost made it safely... Message-ID: <7P3Ue.27626$mb4.4919@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 23:29:07 GMT wrote in message news:1126216425.375087.27910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > I bought a TV set on eBay recently, and during my lunch break it > arrived. It was fully intact with no missing/broken pieces and I > presume it had an uneventful journey from Iowa to Texas until... > > The UPS guy tripped and dropped the box on my doorstep. > Damn, I hate when that happens. Neat trim behind that glass! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6204121506 I'm dealing with a similar problem. I bought a Predicta Tandem, had it shipped UPS, one box for the CRT assembly, another for the chassis cabinet assembly. The chassis box had been abused, and it dislodged the chassis >from it's wood cabinet, popping off the knobs and the shafts no longer align with the cabinet openings. No big deal there. Easy to straighten that out. The TV was wrapped once with bubble-wrap, then tossed in a box with foam peanuts. The other box containing the CRT got beat up also. The 23-inch tall unit was shipped in a butchered box only 24-1/2 inches tall. The wood base was directly in the bottom of the box, no wrap or foam under it. The box was then filled with some wrap, peanuts, and crumpled newspaper. The base of the top unit was shattered. Well, UPS picked up the set Tuesday. They had to take it in for evaluation of the damage claim. My route driver, who has always provided me with excellent service, couldn't believe how the idiots had packed this TV. He's sure that the damage was caused more by the bad packing, and that the transport wasn't the problem. He thought whoever packed it was going to have to assume responsibility for the damage. I agreed, then showed him that it had been packaged and shipped by the "UPS Store" in New Milford, CT. He expects someone will catch hell over this. Me, I want the set back, with an allowance for the damages. I am awaiting word on the decision from UPS as to what they will do. jim menning Article: 322218 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:34:36 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Almost made it safely... References: <1126216425.375087.27910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7P3Ue.27626$mb4.4919@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: jim menning wrote: > have to assume responsibility for the damage. I agreed, then showed him > that it had been packaged and shipped by the "UPS Store" in New Milford, CT. > He expects someone will catch hell over this. A thought occurs to me. Do the personnel at "UPS Store" franchises get any particular training on packing? -Bill Article: 322219 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Contacting NostalgiaAir Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 23:34:57 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1126200748.684472.300180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1097f$4320c6e4$4232bd4c$29067@COQUI.NET> In <1097f$4320c6e4$4232bd4c$29067@COQUI.NET> -ex- writes: >I seem to recall that Richard moved the stuff after last year's >hurricanes? Maybe he didn't setup all the email addresses that resolve >to rlan.net. Try donations@nostalgiaair.com That doesn't work, either: ohtoo 53# telnet sfp.rlan.net 25 Trying 209.114.210.166... Connected to sfp.rlan.net. Escape character is '^]'. 220 209.114.210.166 running CrystalMail SMTP 0.5b helo gothicdigital.com 250 209.114.210.166 mail from: 250 OK rcpt to: 550 Addressee is unknown (donations@nostalgiaair.com) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322220 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1126216425.375087.27910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7P3Ue.27626$mb4.4919@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Almost made it safely... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 23:37:43 GMT "-ex-" wrote in message news:f07d9$4320ca8d$4232bd7d$13335@COQUI.NET... > jim menning wrote: > > > > have to assume responsibility for the damage. I agreed, then showed him > > that it had been packaged and shipped by the "UPS Store" in New Milford, CT. > > He expects someone will catch hell over this. > > A thought occurs to me. > > Do the personnel at "UPS Store" franchises get any particular training > on packing? > I'm not sure, but I would think they'd be required to follow the UPS packing guidelines on their own website. jim menning Article: 322221 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <11ht4hd67fdqda9@corp.supernews.com> <1126097339.939455.283440@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11hvnap7uu6fkf9@corp.supernews.com> <1126167933.915545.304210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11i0poq7mhma3e9@corp.supernews.com> <1126219395.601240.288360@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Bob Denver gone Message-ID: Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 23:38:17 GMT "Steven" wrote in message news:1126219395.601240.288360@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > J M > JM > > JIM > > ME > MEN > > You and Jeff (Peter) are the only ones who try to apologize for me, > Jim? > Steven, here I am. I just received a phone call telling me to look at this thread, and also another one (about masturbating) where you accused me of posting in. Stick it up your ass you fuckwad! I am not the "jm" who posted here. Look at the headers, I post through Roadrunner. I've followed the advice of several others, and I have ignored your insane ramblings for some time now. Now you draw me back into it. Why don't you just fucking kill yourself and leave the rest of the world alone. jim menning Article: 322222 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Almost made it safely... Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 23:39:57 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1126216425.375087.27910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7P3Ue.27626$mb4.4919@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> In <7P3Ue.27626$mb4.4919@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> "jim menning" writes: >Neat trim behind that glass! >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6204121506 That is a bone-cool set. What's with the tongue depresser sticking out the back? Focus? :) >I'm dealing with a similar problem. I bought a Predicta Tandem, had it >shipped UPS, one box for the CRT assembly, another for the chassis cabinet >assembly. The chassis box had been abused, and it dislodged the chassis >from it's wood cabinet, popping off the knobs and the shafts no longer align >with the cabinet openings. No big deal there. Easy to straighten that out. They never seem to line up that well, anyway. I've got a Tandem, and the knobs are all just a little off. Not so far off that you can't get the knobs on the control shafts, but it might take a little bit of wiggling. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322223 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:40:33 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Contacting NostalgiaAir References: <1126200748.684472.300180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1097f$4320c6e4$4232bd4c$29067@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <7538e$4320cbf3$4232bd7d$13662@COQUI.NET> Tim Mullen wrote: > In <1097f$4320c6e4$4232bd4c$29067@COQUI.NET> -ex- writes: > > >>I seem to recall that Richard moved the stuff after last year's >>hurricanes? Maybe he didn't setup all the email addresses that resolve >>to rlan.net. Try donations@nostalgiaair.com > > > That doesn't work, either: Hmmm...that hurts. Tim, try running some of these addresses to dot org instead of dot com. He made some changes there also a year or so ago. -Bill Article: 322224 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Using shellac to seal color copier prints. References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 23:52:13 GMT As a painter that has worked in the field for more than 35 years I can say with great certainty that shellac will alligator after a period of about 50 years or less. I have worked in many houses where it was used as a finish and it takes on a very lumpy appearance which is easily removed with alcohol. What I am trying to say if I had pics that I was trying to preserve for the future shellac would not be a good choice. Stewart Schooley wrote: > Last time I posted about photofinish here I got an e-mail from a member > who asked me not to stop posting about photofinish, so here is another one. > > In a recent thread on the Forum one guy mentioned he was making > photofinish paper that lasts 100 years so I figured he had an Epson > printer with Dura-Bright inks. Another in the thread asked about using > shellac as a sealer to isolate the silicone contamination in the color > copy prints. > > I had tried it before and reported negatively on it. But I began to > wonder if I had given shellac a fair test. After all, my first test with > spray can Minwax Polycrylic had some fish eye problems, but when I gave > it another good spray the fish eye disappeared. Also, I had tested the > shellac in Febuary, so another test was needed. > > I did the test today on Canon color copier prints. I used Zinsser's > Bullseye clear spray can shellac. There was some wind and I had to spray > close up. The directions on the can say to spray 8 to 10 inches away > from the surface or sags and runs may develop. I had some, but overall > it looked a little blotchy to me. Small blotches, but not fish eye. > > I used a 3M pad and #0000 steel wool to smooth out the shellac and then > gave it two coats of Watco spray can lacquer. I looks terrific. I'll > save the tests to see how it looks in the coming months, but I'll bet > there won't be any problems and that a properly applied and smoothed > coat of > shellac will be just the ticket for anyone who wants the benefits of > permanent inks and lacquer compatibility, and who doesn't really trust > Polycrylic on a radio. > > BTW, after 18 months the lacquer over Polycrylic on a color copier print > still looks the same. No problems whatsoever. > > Stewart > > > > > > Article: 322225 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Contacting NostalgiaAir Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 00:04:35 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1126200748.684472.300180@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1097f$4320c6e4$4232bd4c$29067@COQUI.NET> <7538e$4320cbf3$4232bd7d$13662@COQUI.NET> In <7538e$4320cbf3$4232bd7d$13662@COQUI.NET> -ex- writes: >Tim, try running some of these addresses to dot org instead of dot com. > He made some changes there also a year or so ago. You nailed it: Connected to sfp.rlan.net. Escape character is '^]'. 220 209.114.210.166 running CrystalMail SMTP 0.5b mail from: 250 OK rcpt to: 250 OK ...so hostmaster works... rcpt to: 550 Addressee is unknown (webmaster@nostalgiaair.org) rcpt to: 550 Addressee is unknown (postmaster@nostalgiaair.org) ...but neither webmaster nor postmaster do. Sigh. rcpt to: 250 OK Donations does, however. Some of that oughta go toward competent administration. :) 'Course, I should talk -- my site's been down for two days because they're building a restaurant on the first floor of my building, and either they cut thru my line or Verizon got in the basement and rearranged the wires in order of prettiest color. And, I never got around to setting up a secondary MX at my friend's place. Ah, well. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322226 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: Using shellac to seal color copier prints. References: Message-ID: <0y4Ue.104$au7.87@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:19:08 GMT Stewart Schooley wrote: > > I did the test today on Canon color copier prints. I used Zinsser's > Bullseye clear spray can shellac. There was some wind and I had to spray > close up. The directions on the can say to spray 8 to 10 inches away > from the surface or sags and runs may develop. I had some, but overall > it looked a little blotchy to me. Small blotches, but not fish eye. Fish eye has to do with surface tension and/or silicone. Shellac, if not actually hygroscopic, is certainly very sensitive to any kind of water/moisture. Shellac is also prone to "alligatoring"--look at many shellacked pre-1920s (before lacquer was in common use) radio cabinets. Needless to say, wind is no good nor is "spraying close up". I thought a typical "artist" type of fixative was Krylon Clear (tm), essentially spray lacquer. Try that on a calm day at the appropriate distance and I am sure you will have better luck. Article: 322227 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Almost made it safely... References: <1126216425.375087.27910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7P3Ue.27626$mb4.4919@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:20:09 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > That is a bone-cool set. I don't think I've ever heard that term before... Ron Article: 322228 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Almost made it safely... Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 00:26:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1126216425.375087.27910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7P3Ue.27626$mb4.4919@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> In Ron in Radio Heaven writes: >Tim Mullen wrote: >> That is a bone-cool set. >I don't think I've ever heard that term before... Heh. I picked it up from a friend from Chicago. She'd also end telephone conversations with "Easy" instead of "good-bye". Short for "Take it easy", I'd guess. I haven't adopted that mannerism, however. I don't have her voice, for one. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322229 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jm" References: <11ht4hd67fdqda9@corp.supernews.com> <1126097339.939455.283440@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11hvnap7uu6fkf9@corp.supernews.com> <1126167933.915545.304210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11i0poq7mhma3e9@corp.supernews.com> <1126219395.601240.288360@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Bob Denver gone Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:25:40 -0400 "jim menning" wrote in message news:JX3Ue.27629$mb4.245@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Steven" wrote in message > news:1126219395.601240.288360@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> J M >> JM >> >> JIM >> >> ME >> MEN >> >> You and Jeff (Peter) are the only ones who try to apologize for me, >> Jim? >> > > > Steven, here I am. > > I just received a phone call telling me to look at this thread, and also > another one (about masturbating) where you accused me of posting in. > > Stick it up your ass you fuckwad! I am not the "jm" who posted here. > Look > at the headers, I post through Roadrunner. I've followed the advice of > several others, and I have ignored your insane ramblings for some time > now. > Now you draw me back into it. > > Why don't you just fucking kill yourself and leave the rest of the world > alone. > > jim menning > > Steven - get your shit together BOY - that was NOT written by Jim Menning as you seem to have accused him. It was written by ME - JM. Coincidence in letters yes, but does not mean it was anyone other than me. And as for MY opinion of you. I agree with Jim............ My apologies to "Jim Menning" for the confusion. JM - "NOT" JIM MENNING - so get it straight - you pigs ass. Many rumors at lycos.com should be many meds at psychos.com Article: 322230 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Using shellac to seal color copier prints. References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:31:08 GMT Lou deGonzague wrote: > As a painter that has worked in the field for more than 35 years I can > say with great certainty that shellac will alligator after a period of > about 50 years or less. Heh, I see you've seen the finish on my 1909 Piano eh? Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 322231 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Bob Denver gone References: <11ht4hd67fdqda9@corp.supernews.com> <1126097339.939455.283440@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11hvnap7uu6fkf9@corp.supernews.com> <1126167933.915545.304210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11i0poq7mhma3e9@corp.supernews.com> <1126219395.601240.288360@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:35:28 GMT jim menning wrote: > Steven, here I am. Welcome back Jim. Jeff -- "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." Benjamin Franklin "A life lived in fear is a life half lived." Tara Morice as Fran, from the movie "Strictly Ballroom" Article: 322232 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: Subject: Re: Zenith Model Number & Value Please Message-ID: <1126226239.a80e1fba6e65bc66ae05932c6a291dd7@teranews> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:37:16 -0500 12-U-158 Value: $1000+, even unrestored. paul "graham" wrote in message news:Hq-dnQ6a8LX6Kr3eRVn-rA@comcast.com... Article: 322233 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Joe Farkas Subject: Pilot Radio, Models X1452, -1453 Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 19:37:18 -0500 Message-ID: I picked up this early 1940 am/sw portable, the X-1453 that predates the TO Clipper by almost 2 years. This version covers 2 to 6 MHz. The Riders schematic hints at a 12 MHz upper limit on the X-1452. Anyone have any info on these pair? Unusual circuit, including 262"kc" IF, relay/inductors in power supply, lamp for AC operation, etc. Article: 322234 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jm" References: <1126216425.375087.27910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Almost made it safely... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:39:52 -0400 wrote in message news:1126216425.375087.27910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >I bought a TV set on eBay recently, and during my lunch break it > arrived. It was fully intact with no missing/broken pieces and I > presume it had an uneventful journey from Iowa to Texas until... > > The UPS guy tripped and dropped the box on my doorstep. > > The TV set landed on its face, as I discovered upon unpacking it. While > the set was still intact, one of the knobs broke and the power/volume > control was forced back into the TV set and broke loose. The force of > the drop also dislodged the power transformer from its mounting > bracket, as well as loosening the CRT socket. > > > Things like this really frustrate me. I cannot believe that the package > made it all the way here only to get dropped right in front of my eyes. > > > 73, > > Tim > In my experience in shipping a few Computer monitors or other items which were fragile as to controls, I placed a layer or two of foam on the front where they were most fragile. I placed foam pieces which "cupped" the controls, to avoid them being jammed just as yours were. I must wonder if the UPS store did anything to protect the CRT at least - at all. To leave it open with just peanuts or paper around it seems woefully inadequate. JM Article: 322235 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <8dednXP07uDTuoTeRVn-ig@aros.net> <1079-43193200-520@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <95idnbY9058rp4TeRVn-1w@comcast.com> <8mn0i1tt8jh0cs7i0r8a8tcl4lfulk00ji@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Microwave oven power Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:43:43 -0700 "jm" wrote in message news:SDZTe.33815$Tf5.13005@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... > "Andy Cuffe" wrote in message > news:8mn0i1tt8jh0cs7i0r8a8tcl4lfulk00ji@4ax.com... > > On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 21:49:39 GMT, Gordon Richmond > > wrote: > > > > > >>If the manufacturers made the reminder beep a switchable option, then > >>those of us who don't want the irritation could switch it off. > >> > > > > Good idea. It seems that everything is designed for the stupidest > > among us. > > Andy Cuffe > > > > baltimora@psu.edu <-- Use this address until 12/31/2005 > > > > acuffe@gmail.com <-- Use this address after 12/31/2005 > > I don't know.... the reminder can be a good thing. Suppose you got busy or > called to the phone and "forgot" you had an item in there - something that > could very easily happen. You come back and it is cold or maybe the cook > time was affected if a meal to be brought out, fussed with and placed back > in. Those rush around days or crammed days are good for people to "forget" > there is something in the oven. > I use mine too for a timer when cooking on the stove. That way my mind is > free to do other things. I can set the timer for say 3-5 minutes to check on > a pan of boiling water - rather than forget about it and it boil down. I > don't know - "I" get pretty involved in many things and for me - the timer > is a blessing. And yes, there have been times I ignored it, usually when > zapping coffee and had to reheat it. The use of the timer doesn't have to be > for "stupid" people - but rather those who are constantly bombarded with > other distractions. It is user - friendly - in my book. > > Speaking of Microwaves. I had a bag of popcorn which didn't pop correctly. > Yep - the timer went off as set, but just about the time it did, I had smoke > billowing out of the microwave. The bag had all but caught fire. Seems the > bag got stuck and didn't rotate properly or open. Ever since then, I've had > a hell of an odor in the microwave. I placed a box of Baking Soda in to try > to absorb it, and though the odor is diminished about 50% - 75% but it is > still there. Any ideas? Washing it out won't do it. I washed it down from > all the grease - already which leaked out. The odor is from what got into > the oven innards. > > jm jm, My mother had a fridge that was left closed and shut off with a pound of hamburger in it for a week plus... She got some activated charcoal, put it in an aluminium pan, and parked it in the fridge. Took it out every couple of days and baked the smell off the charcoal in the oven, then put it back in the fridge. The fridge now smells great (as fridges go) and the smell didn't mess up the oven. Forget how long she kept it up. Nelson Article: 322236 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: Subject: Re: Contacting NostalgiaAir Message-ID: <1126226845.f76046d098fcab48a832d4df6eab7191@teranews> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:47:22 -0500 Nobody tried webstaff@nostalgiaair.org? It's right on the home page and is an valid recipient name. paul "Gene" wrote in message news:dfprqt$1o3@dispatch.concentric.net... > Hi, all: > Help@NostalgiaAir.org bounces, anyone know how to get in touch > with them? Thanks! > -Gene > > Article: 322237 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 20:49:32 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Almost made it safely... References: <1126216425.375087.27910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7P3Ue.27626$mb4.4919@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > Tim Mullen wrote: > >> That is a bone-cool set. > > > I don't think I've ever heard that term before... > > Ron > Tim is in Neeew Yark City! The term will become familiar in Charlotte in a decade or so :) -Bill Article: 322238 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jm" References: <8dednXP07uDTuoTeRVn-ig@aros.net> <1079-43193200-520@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <95idnbY9058rp4TeRVn-1w@comcast.com> <8mn0i1tt8jh0cs7i0r8a8tcl4lfulk00ji@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Microwave oven power Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:51:53 -0400 "Nelson Gietz" wrote in message news:ER4Ue.2908$qP3.30855@news1.mts.net... > > "jm" wrote in message > news:SDZTe.33815$Tf5.13005@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net... >> "Andy Cuffe" wrote in message >> news:8mn0i1tt8jh0cs7i0r8a8tcl4lfulk00ji@4ax.com... >> > On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 21:49:39 GMT, Gordon Richmond >> > wrote: >> > >> > >> >>If the manufacturers made the reminder beep a switchable option, then >> >>those of us who don't want the irritation could switch it off. >> >> >> > >> > Good idea. It seems that everything is designed for the stupidest >> > among us. >> > Andy Cuffe >> > >> > baltimora@psu.edu <-- Use this address until 12/31/2005 >> > >> > acuffe@gmail.com <-- Use this address after 12/31/2005 >> >> I don't know.... the reminder can be a good thing. Suppose you got busy >> or >> called to the phone and "forgot" you had an item in there - something >> that >> could very easily happen. You come back and it is cold or maybe the cook >> time was affected if a meal to be brought out, fussed with and placed >> back >> in. Those rush around days or crammed days are good for people to >> "forget" >> there is something in the oven. >> I use mine too for a timer when cooking on the stove. That way my mind is >> free to do other things. I can set the timer for say 3-5 minutes to check > on >> a pan of boiling water - rather than forget about it and it boil down. I >> don't know - "I" get pretty involved in many things and for me - the >> timer >> is a blessing. And yes, there have been times I ignored it, usually when >> zapping coffee and had to reheat it. The use of the timer doesn't have to > be >> for "stupid" people - but rather those who are constantly bombarded with >> other distractions. It is user - friendly - in my book. >> >> Speaking of Microwaves. I had a bag of popcorn which didn't pop >> correctly. >> Yep - the timer went off as set, but just about the time it did, I had > smoke >> billowing out of the microwave. The bag had all but caught fire. Seems >> the >> bag got stuck and didn't rotate properly or open. Ever since then, I've > had >> a hell of an odor in the microwave. I placed a box of Baking Soda in to > try >> to absorb it, and though the odor is diminished about 50% - 75% but it is >> still there. Any ideas? Washing it out won't do it. I washed it down from >> all the grease - already which leaked out. The odor is from what got into >> the oven innards. >> >> jm > > jm, > My mother had a fridge that was left closed and shut off with a pound > of > hamburger in it for a week plus... > She got some activated charcoal, put it in an aluminium pan, and parked > it in the fridge. Took it out every couple of days and baked the smell > off > the charcoal in the oven, then put it back in the fridge. The fridge now > smells great (as fridges go) and the smell didn't mess up the oven. > Forget > how long she kept it up. > Nelson > > Hmmmm - thanks, will have to give it a shot. JM Article: 322239 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1126216425.375087.27910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7P3Ue.27626$mb4.4919@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Almost made it safely... Message-ID: <1126227376.14635a84de3946c03aff7c41d726dfb1@teranews> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 19:56:13 -0500 "jim menning" wrote in message news:bX3Ue.27628$mb4.17390@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > Do the personnel at "UPS Store" franchises get any particular training > > on packing? > I'm not sure, but I would think they'd be required to follow the UPS packing > guidelines on their own website. I took a printer to the UPS Store down the street last week for packing and shipping because I didn't feel like going to the trouble myself (it was a Xerox Phaser 860 - if you've seen one, you know how big & heavy they are...) Anyway. The guy wrapped it all over with a couple layers of bubble wrap, got the smallest box they had that would hold it well (was at least 8" bigger than the printer in every dimension) filled it halfway with foam peanuts, put the printer in, and filled the rest of the box with peanuts. Took a whole big bag of peanuts to do the job. Then taped it shut with several layers of tape. Not a bad job. I wasn't displeased. That's not to say it's going to survive the trip, but the work was certainly not slipshod. JM2c -paul Article: 322240 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Contacting NostalgiaAir Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 00:57:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1126226845.f76046d098fcab48a832d4df6eab7191@teranews> In <1126226845.f76046d098fcab48a832d4df6eab7191@teranews> "Paul Dietenberger" writes: >Nobody tried webstaff@nostalgiaair.org? It's right on the home page and is >an valid recipient name. Heh, not me! I never even looked at the web page. My part in all this was speaking SMTP. But things like "webstaff" send me around the bend. Why not use what's always been used, "webmaster"? Why-oh-why do people insist on coming up with their own incompatible solutions when perfectly good ones already exist? Sheer perversity? Argh! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322241 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Almost made it safely... Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 00:59:38 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1126216425.375087.27910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7P3Ue.27626$mb4.4919@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> In -ex- writes: >Tim is in Neeew Yark City! The term will become familiar in Charlotte >in a decade or so :) Right about when folks using "webstaff" have moved on to "meshmaster". :) :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322242 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Almost made it safely... Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 01:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1126216425.375087.27910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7P3Ue.27626$mb4.4919@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1126227376.14635a84de3946c03aff7c41d726dfb1@teranews> In <1126227376.14635a84de3946c03aff7c41d726dfb1@teranews> "Paul Dietenberger" writes: >I took a printer to the UPS Store down the street last week for packing and >shipping because I didn't feel like going to the trouble myself (it was a >Xerox Phaser 860 - if you've seen one, you know how big & heavy they are...) Yeah, I've got a Phaser 750DP. Cost me more to ship it from California than I paid for the printer! Makes a great extra chair in the shop, tho'. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322243 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 21:03:34 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Pilot Radio, Models X1452, -1453 References: Message-ID: Joe Farkas wrote: > I picked up this early 1940 am/sw portable, the X-1453 that predates > the TO Clipper by almost 2 years. This version covers 2 to 6 MHz. > The Riders schematic hints at a 12 MHz upper limit on the X-1452. > Anyone have any info on these pair? Unusual circuit, including > 262"kc" IF, relay/inductors in power supply, lamp for AC operation, > etc. > Thats an unique set in several ways. For starters, simply being a prewar SW capable suitcase set. On the other hand, a 262 IF isn't very appropriate for SW and I wonder how/why they did this...particularly up to 12 Mcs.? That said, those typewritten notes in Riders about IF freqs have been known to be inaccurate on occasion. The relay scheme seems to be a way of idiot-proofing the set for incorrect battery connection. Interesting that they did that. All-in-all it looks like a good set. RF amp stage, push-pull audio out. It would be interesting to see how it stacks up against the prewar TO. I suspect it would probably kick butt. -Bill Article: 322244 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Using shellac to seal color copier prints. Message-ID: Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 01:09:36 GMT The inks used in ink-jet and bubble-jet printers can fade in sunlight. However the toner used in Canon CLC series copiers is pretty good in that respect. I've been a Product Specialist for Canon CLC's for many years, only quitting recently to run the radio business full time. When the original CLC first came out (sometimes called the CLC-1 or CLC-100), a customer downtown made two copies of a bright poster, heavy with yellows and reds. He put one in the store window, and put the other one in a file. Two years later he compared them side by side, and found hardly any difference. If I'm not mistaken, that copy is still in the store window and still looks good. All of the later Canon CLC products, such as the 500, 550, 7--/800, 1150, etc., use the same toner material. It is finer and has a different charge than the CLC-1, but it is pretty much the same. I'm not sure of what the Canon Color Imagerunner toners are like, or whether other brands will act the same way, but in all my years of working with CLC products, I have never seen a faded copy. "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message news:lMGdnWQDZ9pMV73eRVn-rg@bright.net... > Last time I posted about photofinish here I got an e-mail from a member > who asked me not to stop posting about photofinish, so here is another > one. > > In a recent thread on the Forum one guy mentioned he was making > photofinish paper that lasts 100 years so I figured he had an Epson > printer with Dura-Bright inks. Another in the thread asked about using > shellac as a sealer to isolate the silicone contamination in the color > copy prints. > > I had tried it before and reported negatively on it. But I began to > wonder if I had given shellac a fair test. After all, my first test with > spray can Minwax Polycrylic had some fish eye problems, but when I gave > it another good spray the fish eye disappeared. Also, I had tested the > shellac in Febuary, so another test was needed. > > I did the test today on Canon color copier prints. I used Zinsser's > Bullseye clear spray can shellac. There was some wind and I had to spray > close up. The directions on the can say to spray 8 to 10 inches away > from the surface or sags and runs may develop. I had some, but overall > it looked a little blotchy to me. Small blotches, but not fish eye. > > I used a 3M pad and #0000 steel wool to smooth out the shellac and then > gave it two coats of Watco spray can lacquer. I looks terrific. I'll > save the tests to see how it looks in the coming months, but I'll bet > there won't be any problems and that a properly applied and smoothed coat > of > shellac will be just the ticket for anyone who wants the benefits of > permanent inks and lacquer compatibility, and who doesn't really trust > Polycrylic on a radio. > > BTW, after 18 months the lacquer over Polycrylic on a color copier print > still looks the same. No problems whatsoever. > > Stewart > > > > > > Article: 322245 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1126219152.065726.267160@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Record Price for 9-tube Walton?? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 01:10:48 GMT And a recapped set can be a butcherjob under there! A proper original resto, includes all restuffed caps, and as stated... the correct Zenith tubes. I find that the original Zenith paper caps are often still quite functional when used in less stressful parts of the circuit, Zenith sourced quality parts! Keith "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1126219152.065726.267160@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Didn't have a 6T5 or Zenith-branded G tubes, either. Still proves the > point that an original condition anything should get top dollar. > Article: 322246 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Using shellac to seal color copier prints. Message-ID: <2k5Ue.7630$4P5.760@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 01:12:30 GMT I might add one more tidbit to this -- the CLC series machines will copy onto transparencies -- and of course you can design a pattern or photo and have it printed to a CLC -- on a transparency. Think about this when you need to make a certain type of radio dial . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:kh5Ue.7628$4P5.2157@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > The inks used in ink-jet and bubble-jet printers can fade in sunlight. > However the toner used in Canon CLC series copiers is pretty good in that > respect. I've been a Product Specialist for Canon CLC's for many years, > only quitting recently to run the radio business full time. When the > original CLC first came out (sometimes called the CLC-1 or CLC-100), a > customer downtown made two copies of a bright poster, heavy with yellows > and reds. He put one in the store window, and put the other one in a > file. Two years later he compared them side by side, and found hardly any > difference. If I'm not mistaken, that copy is still in the store window > and still looks good. > > All of the later Canon CLC products, such as the 500, 550, 7--/800, 1150, > etc., use the same toner material. It is finer and has a different charge > than the CLC-1, but it is pretty much the same. I'm not sure of what the > Canon Color Imagerunner toners are like, or whether other brands will act > the same way, but in all my years of working with CLC products, I have > never seen a faded copy. > > > "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message > news:lMGdnWQDZ9pMV73eRVn-rg@bright.net... >> Last time I posted about photofinish here I got an e-mail from a member >> who asked me not to stop posting about photofinish, so here is another >> one. >> >> In a recent thread on the Forum one guy mentioned he was making >> photofinish paper that lasts 100 years so I figured he had an Epson >> printer with Dura-Bright inks. Another in the thread asked about using >> shellac as a sealer to isolate the silicone contamination in the color >> copy prints. >> >> I had tried it before and reported negatively on it. But I began to >> wonder if I had given shellac a fair test. After all, my first test with >> spray can Minwax Polycrylic had some fish eye problems, but when I gave >> it another good spray the fish eye disappeared. Also, I had tested the >> shellac in Febuary, so another test was needed. >> >> I did the test today on Canon color copier prints. I used Zinsser's >> Bullseye clear spray can shellac. There was some wind and I had to spray >> close up. The directions on the can say to spray 8 to 10 inches away >> from the surface or sags and runs may develop. I had some, but overall >> it looked a little blotchy to me. Small blotches, but not fish eye. >> >> I used a 3M pad and #0000 steel wool to smooth out the shellac and then >> gave it two coats of Watco spray can lacquer. I looks terrific. I'll >> save the tests to see how it looks in the coming months, but I'll bet >> there won't be any problems and that a properly applied and smoothed coat >> of >> shellac will be just the ticket for anyone who wants the benefits of >> permanent inks and lacquer compatibility, and who doesn't really trust >> Polycrylic on a radio. >> >> BTW, after 18 months the lacquer over Polycrylic on a color copier print >> still looks the same. No problems whatsoever. >> >> Stewart >> >> >> >> >> >> > > Article: 322247 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <4YNRe.11553$p%3.45671@typhoon.sonic.net> <1126227343.964351.115480@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Global warming? More flooded radios, eh? But people are more important. Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 21:15:26 -0400 "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1126227343.964351.115480@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > lets look at global warming from a common sense perspective (imagine > that). centuries ago, the fossil fuel lay dormant in the earth. it was > the same temperature as the earth. now we pump it form the earth, > refine it and burn it. yes, FIRE. going down the road, you car ignites > about 2000 controled fires a minute. burning a gallon of gas about > every 20 minutes. now we are taking a cool substance, setting fire to > it and burning it up. we do it millions of times a minute all over the > world. how can anyone say that this doesn't in some way increase the > temperature of the air around us? let's be real guys. ever grab a > muffler? > eddie I can't really tell if you're joking or being serious here?? I hope you are kidding. The amount of heat released by burning carbon based fuels pales in comparision to the sun's solar heating of the earth. That heat energy would be quickly lost, regardless. The alledged concern is the effect of carbon dioxide gases trapping heat energy so it isn't lost into space, resulting in a so-called green house effect. Pete Article: 322248 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: HPGrn Subject: Re: Contacting NostalgiaAir Message-ID: References: <1126226845.f76046d098fcab48a832d4df6eab7191@teranews> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 01:21:49 GMT On Fri, 9 Sep 2005 00:57:26 +0000 (UTC), Tim Mullen wrote: >In <1126226845.f76046d098fcab48a832d4df6eab7191@teranews> "Paul Dietenberger" writes: > >>Nobody tried webstaff@nostalgiaair.org? It's right on the home page and is >>an valid recipient name. > > Heh, not me! I never even looked at the web page. My part >in all this was speaking SMTP. > > But things like "webstaff" send me around the bend. Why not >use what's always been used, "webmaster"? Why-oh-why do people >insist on coming up with their own incompatible solutions when >perfectly good ones already exist? Sheer perversity? Argh! Try: http://www.nostalgiaair.org/ I was just on it.... Article: 322249 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1126112004.672851.265280@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126136826.261135.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Man Shocked with 2000 Volts/30 Sec. and lives Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 21:26:51 -0400 "Larry" wrote in message > A little old lady in Rock Hill, SC, refused to leave a nursing home until > they told her what they did with her friend. The nursing home called the > cops who took their Tazers to this dangerous-looking geriatric woman of 80- > something and killed her. > > Stupid cops should NOT be allowed around any voltage higher than 6V. > > -- > Larry Geezus Larry! Try and get the FACTS before posting this bullshit on a newsgroup. 1: she was 75 years old. 2: she was stunned, not killed. Not that I'm justifying the action, but how about some FACTS and less BS? Pete Article: 322251 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1126226845.f76046d098fcab48a832d4df6eab7191@teranews> Subject: Re: Contacting NostalgiaAir (drifting OT) Message-ID: <1126231102.91e99091da364bbac9f12d50a8dd13a8@teranews> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 20:58:06 -0500 "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:dfqmlm$dm0$1@reader1.panix.com... > But things like "webstaff" send me around the bend. Why not > use what's always been used, "webmaster"? Why-oh-why do people > insist on coming up with their own incompatible solutions when > perfectly good ones already exist? Sheer perversity? Argh! How about "sitegod"? That could be a good one. I don't know why people seem to go out of the way to not follow the standards sometimes. I may be a complete failure as a network admin :-), but even *I* remembered to set up the webmaster e-mail account when the mktg. dpt. put our company website up several years ago. And of course we have a postmaster account too. (Unfortunately, I'm the postmaster.....Thank $deity_of_choice for corporate anti-spam software.) paul Article: 322252 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Man Shocked with 2000 Volts/30 Sec. and lives From: Larry References: <1126112004.672851.265280@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126136826.261135.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 22:00:09 -0400 " Uncle Peter" wrote in news:xx5Ue.74497$DW1.67214@fed1read06: > Not that I'm justifying the action, but how about some > FACTS and less BS? > > Hmm...paper he said she had heart attack writhing around on the floor with 50KV zapping her body. Fact remains - Cops shouldn't have over 6V. They zapped little kids in a lot of places with this damned thing. These are the same cops that pointed the 10Ghz radar transmitter at the back of their skulls so you couldn't see the antennas. We're paying bigtime benefits for cataracts and blindness, now. They STILL have radar transmitters INSIDE police cars blasting RF in their faces bouncing off the windscreen at 23 Ghz! -- Larry Article: 322254 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Contacting NostalgiaAir (drifting OT) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 02:02:28 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1126226845.f76046d098fcab48a832d4df6eab7191@teranews> <1126231102.91e99091da364bbac9f12d50a8dd13a8@teranews> In <1126231102.91e99091da364bbac9f12d50a8dd13a8@teranews> "Paul Dietenberger" writes: >How about "sitegod"? That could be a good one. BOFH. :) You know about the bofh.* hierarchy, don't you? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322256 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1126112004.672851.265280@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126136826.261135.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Man Shocked with 2000 Volts/30 Sec. and lives Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 22:07:09 -0400 "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96CBDF6F5694Fnoone@63.223.7.253... > " Uncle Peter" wrote in > news:xx5Ue.74497$DW1.67214@fed1read06: > > > Not that I'm justifying the action, but how about some > > FACTS and less BS? > > > > > > Hmm...paper he said she had heart attack writhing around on the floor with > 50KV zapping her body. > > Fact remains - Cops shouldn't have over 6V. They zapped little kids in a > lot of places with this damned thing. > > These are the same cops that pointed the 10Ghz radar transmitter at the > back of their skulls so you couldn't see the antennas. We're paying > bigtime benefits for cataracts and blindness, now. They STILL have radar > transmitters INSIDE police cars blasting RF in their faces bouncing off the > windscreen at 23 Ghz! > > -- > Larry Which paper was that in Larry? Certainly not this one: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-01-29-taser_x.htm?csp=34 Or, any of the other 50 news releases relating to the story. Nothing about a heart attack. Only that she is planning to sue. Where are the cops zapping little kids? Source??? BTW, what kind of range did those cops get by shooting 10 GHz signals their heads? More fish stories. The guns only radiate when the trigger is depressed. Article: 322257 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: Using shellac to seal color copier prints. References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 02:08:19 GMT Hi Stewart, I have been following your posts with interest. I service color photocopiers for a living, so I would suggest that you try to print your images on a color copier from Konica Minolta, if you can find one, the Bizhub C350 or C351, CF2002, CF3102, or the Kyocera KMC-2030, KMC-3130, or the KMC-2230. These machines are all built by Konica, and do not use silicon oil in the fuser section, so you won't have the contamination problem. Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Stewart Schooley wrote: > Last time I posted about photofinish here I got an e-mail from a member > who asked me not to stop posting about photofinish, so here is another one. > > In a recent thread on the Forum one guy mentioned he was making > photofinish paper that lasts 100 years so I figured he had an Epson > printer with Dura-Bright inks. Another in the thread asked about using > shellac as a sealer to isolate the silicone contamination in the color > copy prints. > > I had tried it before and reported negatively on it. But I began to > wonder if I had given shellac a fair test. After all, my first test with > spray can Minwax Polycrylic had some fish eye problems, but when I gave > it another good spray the fish eye disappeared. Also, I had tested the > shellac in Febuary, so another test was needed. > > I did the test today on Canon color copier prints. I used Zinsser's > Bullseye clear spray can shellac. There was some wind and I had to spray > close up. The directions on the can say to spray 8 to 10 inches away > from the surface or sags and runs may develop. I had some, but overall > it looked a little blotchy to me. Small blotches, but not fish eye. > > I used a 3M pad and #0000 steel wool to smooth out the shellac and then > gave it two coats of Watco spray can lacquer. I looks terrific. I'll > save the tests to see how it looks in the coming months, but I'll bet > there won't be any problems and that a properly applied and smoothed > coat of > shellac will be just the ticket for anyone who wants the benefits of > permanent inks and lacquer compatibility, and who doesn't really trust > Polycrylic on a radio. > > BTW, after 18 months the lacquer over Polycrylic on a color copier print > still looks the same. No problems whatsoever. > > Stewart > > > > > > -- Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Article: 322258 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1126226845.f76046d098fcab48a832d4df6eab7191@teranews> <1126231102.91e99091da364bbac9f12d50a8dd13a8@teranews> Subject: Re: Contacting NostalgiaAir (drifting OT) Message-ID: <1126231832.98b11620d13baa8d83764b25c136661e@teranews> Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 21:10:19 -0500 "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:dfqqfk$2te$2@reader1.panix.com... > In <1126231102.91e99091da364bbac9f12d50a8dd13a8@teranews> "Paul Dietenberger" writes: > > >How about "sitegod"? That could be a good one. > > BOFH. :) You know about the bofh.* hierarchy, don't you? Can't. *I* am the BOFH, but somebody else answers to "webmaster". Me:"Your profile takes 25 minutes to load because you're storing all your critical documents on your desktop instead of in your folder on the server?" *clickety* "There. Now your profile will load much faster." Luser: "!!!" Me: "You should have thought of that before you called me. G'bye now." :) -paul Article: 322259 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: Subject: Re: Record Price for 9-tube Walton?? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 21:55:55 -0400 " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:g62Ue.74482$DW1.73193@fed1read06... > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6557014566 > > Just proves that original, un-Frankensteined examples of these > sets are becoming much harder to find, and desirable!! > > Original finish, original tags on box and chassis, clean and working = > $$$$$$! > > Pete If you look at the purchaser's recent buys, you'll see he gets what he wants, without too much regard for price. -- "How did I get round from eating square meals?" regards, Frank Johansen Aurora, Ontario Article: 322260 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: Using shellac to seal color copier prints. References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 02:12:30 GMT It's been a while since I worked on a CLC 1, that was quite the machine in its time. I had my copier training at British Columbia Institute of Technology (BCIT) and they had 6 of them. Technology has come a long way since then. Color toner for the minolta products that I service is so fine it almost looks like water. Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Gary Tayman wrote: > The inks used in ink-jet and bubble-jet printers can fade in sunlight. > However the toner used in Canon CLC series copiers is pretty good in that > respect. I've been a Product Specialist for Canon CLC's for many years, > only quitting recently to run the radio business full time. When the > original CLC first came out (sometimes called the CLC-1 or CLC-100), a > customer downtown made two copies of a bright poster, heavy with yellows > and reds. He put one in the store window, and put the other one in a file. > Two years later he compared them side by side, and found hardly any > difference. If I'm not mistaken, that copy is still in the store window and > still looks good. > > All of the later Canon CLC products, such as the 500, 550, 7--/800, 1150, > etc., use the same toner material. It is finer and has a different charge > than the CLC-1, but it is pretty much the same. I'm not sure of what the > Canon Color Imagerunner toners are like, or whether other brands will act > the same way, but in all my years of working with CLC products, I have never > seen a faded copy. > > > "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message > news:lMGdnWQDZ9pMV73eRVn-rg@bright.net... > >>Last time I posted about photofinish here I got an e-mail from a member >>who asked me not to stop posting about photofinish, so here is another >>one. >> >>In a recent thread on the Forum one guy mentioned he was making >>photofinish paper that lasts 100 years so I figured he had an Epson >>printer with Dura-Bright inks. Another in the thread asked about using >>shellac as a sealer to isolate the silicone contamination in the color >>copy prints. >> >>I had tried it before and reported negatively on it. But I began to >>wonder if I had given shellac a fair test. After all, my first test with >>spray can Minwax Polycrylic had some fish eye problems, but when I gave >>it another good spray the fish eye disappeared. Also, I had tested the >>shellac in Febuary, so another test was needed. >> >>I did the test today on Canon color copier prints. I used Zinsser's >>Bullseye clear spray can shellac. There was some wind and I had to spray >>close up. The directions on the can say to spray 8 to 10 inches away >>from the surface or sags and runs may develop. I had some, but overall >>it looked a little blotchy to me. Small blotches, but not fish eye. >> >>I used a 3M pad and #0000 steel wool to smooth out the shellac and then >>gave it two coats of Watco spray can lacquer. I looks terrific. I'll >>save the tests to see how it looks in the coming months, but I'll bet >>there won't be any problems and that a properly applied and smoothed coat >>of >>shellac will be just the ticket for anyone who wants the benefits of >>permanent inks and lacquer compatibility, and who doesn't really trust >>Polycrylic on a radio. >> >>BTW, after 18 months the lacquer over Polycrylic on a color copier print >>still looks the same. No problems whatsoever. >> >>Stewart >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Article: 322261 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Contacting NostalgiaAir (drifting OT) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 02:16:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1126226845.f76046d098fcab48a832d4df6eab7191@teranews> <1126231102.91e99091da364bbac9f12d50a8dd13a8@teranews> <1126231832.98b11620d13baa8d83764b25c136661e@teranews> In <1126231832.98b11620d13baa8d83764b25c136661e@teranews> "Paul Dietenberger" writes: >Can't. *I* am the BOFH, but somebody else answers to "webmaster". >Me:"Your profile takes 25 minutes to load because you're storing all your >critical documents on your desktop instead of in your folder on the server?" >*clickety* >"There. Now your profile will load much faster." >Luser: "!!!" >Me: "You should have thought of that before you called me. G'bye now." Heh-heh. And they never even thank you for all that free disk space after you delete all their files... :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322262 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Record Price for 9-tube Walton?? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 22:31:46 -0400 "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message news:NY5Ue.18073$I02.1018637@news20.bellglobal.com... > " Uncle Peter" wrote in message > news:g62Ue.74482$DW1.73193@fed1read06... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6557014566 > > > > If you look at the purchaser's recent buys, you'll see he gets what he > wants, without too much regard for price. > > -- > "How did I get round from eating square meals?" > > regards, > > Frank Johansen > Aurora, Ontario > > It took two bidders to get it there, though! Wish I had something he really, really wanted. Ha ha.. Pete Article: 322263 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 22:32:48 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Global warming? More flooded radios, eh? But people are more References: <4YNRe.11553$p%3.45671@typhoon.sonic.net> <1126227343.964351.115480@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Uncle Peter wrote: > "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message > news:1126227343.964351.115480@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > >>lets look at global warming from a common sense perspective (imagine >>that). >>world. how can anyone say that this doesn't in some way increase the >>temperature of the air around us? let's be real guys. ever grab a >>muffler? >> > > > eddie > > I can't really tell if you're joking or being serious here?? > > I hope you are kidding. The amount of heat released by > burning carbon based fuels pales in comparision to > the sun's solar heating of the earth. That heat energy would > be quickly lost, regardless. The alledged concern is the > effect of carbon dioxide gases trapping heat energy so it > isn't lost into space, resulting in a so-called green house > effect. > > > > Pete > > I was going to go in that direction also but Pete beat me to the punch. A daily thousand square mile forest fire in Siberia goes virtually unnoticed in the scheme of things so its not that we are "heating" anything...other than maybe our concrete paved urban centers. Waxing philosophical, we give ourselves a bit too much creedence to think that our spray paint cans and air conditioners are the primary cause of depleting the ozone layer, or that our American affinity for automobiles is the prime culprit. Look at a city like London, huge back in the 1700s, and became analogous with smoke+fog=smog. Every house with a coal or wood fire. Forever cloudy, always tempered climatically. Ask a Manhattaner if they have EVER seen the Big Dipper. But you can go 50 miles away and the air is...almost...clear. All that said, there's no reason to believe that that our big Chevy or can of Rustoleum is THE issue. There's good reason to not ADD to the problem but a good volcanic fart in Sumatra puts our efforts about not using spray cans and having a hazmat team come evacuate an old fridge falls into the touchy-feely category in that we, as humans, somehow are more powerful than the forces or nature. Recent reports indicate that "ozone depletion" has ended and turned the other way. Not much press on this because its not alarming. Fans of the idea will say "we" had an effect. Oh, should we be so powerful! -Bill Article: 322264 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Global warming? More flooded radios, eh? But people are more important. Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 02:41:44 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4YNRe.11553$p%3.45671@typhoon.sonic.net> <1126227343.964351.115480@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> In -ex- writes: > Ask a Manhattaner if they have EVER seen the Big Dipper. That ain't the air, it's the LIGHT. Plus the risk of getting run over by a cab while staring up. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322265 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <1126226031.844290.30190@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126232105.894908.189170@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: trans oceanic b600 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 03:12:20 GMT Duke, I have documanted my experiences on the TO line of radios. I hope you may find some useful info here: http://www.ppinyot.com/transoceanic/transoceanic.htm On the links page are some other perhaps much better TO links. Enjoy, Paul . "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1126232105.894908.189170@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Duke: > > With all due respect to Steve J, if the unit is in good shape, you may > not have to go to much trouble to fire it up. > > ::::BUT:::: > > Obtain a 1R5 and put it in the place of the 1L6. Do all your testing > with this tube in place, and do not install the 1L6 unless and until > you are sure of everything else. You may also wish to obtain a > solid-state replacement for the 50A1 (behind the cord reel) as that is > an expensive tube too. > > A couple of things (or more): > > 1. A dim-bulb tester will tell you nothing on a radio that pulls only a > fraction of an amp at best other than if you have a dead short. On a > radio that might pull a dozen watts or more if not running properly, > you *MIGHT* be able to discern a minor problem if the reference bulb is > small enough. But with a T/O, it's not gonna happen that way. If you > have a meter that will measure fractions of an AC amp, use it. My > experience with these beasts is that about 3-5 watts is a typical draw. > > > 2. This radio has a selenium rectifier, that if bad may give you wonky > symptoms on the upper bands. This problem is very often mis-diagnosed > as a bad 1L6. Typically it is not. IF you need to replace the > rectifier, be sure to add ~40-70 ohms of additional resistance @ 2-5 > watts or so to replace the drop of the selenium diode. BE SURE to get > the silicon diode replacement polarity correct. I typically suggest a > 1N4007 diode, or so, but there are many others that will carry the > current quite nicely as well. Do not remove the sand resistor, that > acts also as a poor-man's fuse in some cases. If it does fail, replace > it with a standard resistor at about 5 watts, at the same-or-slightly > higher value. And a fuse if you can find a fractional Amp dual-element > fuse (about 1/10A). > > 3. The 1R5 will cover the AM band (although the pointer may not be > correct), and reach up into some of the lower SW bands, but it will not > reach all the way up. > > 4. ALL the signal goes through the BC switch and the tone switches. > Clean them thorougly with contact cleaner and exercise them so as to > make sure that you do not get a failure there. > > 5. The speaker goes through the headphone jack. So, if you remove the > chassis from the case for checking or cleaning, you will have to short > out the headphone jack leads for the radio to play. Look at the > connector block on the speaker and you will see the two that need to be > jumped. In a few rare cases, the headphone jack is even when not in > use, also leaving the radio silent. So, check that if necessary. > > 6. The 50A1 is hidden behind the cord reel. It is easily seen with a > dental mirror, and it should glow dimly when the radio is under mains > power. THIS IS THE ONLY TUBE WITH A VISIBLE GLOW! If it is open, the > radio will not play. > > 7. The T/O is essentially an AA5 with a fancy antenna system and a > current regulator (the 50A1). Like any other AA5, if any tube has an > open filament, the radio will be silent. > > 8. DO NOT under any circumstances pull out or put in tubes with the > radio under power. 1.4V filaments are acutely sensitive to surges. > > 9. The radio will play at some volume even with the control all the way > down. This is to 'remind' you that your battery is still connected so > that you do not forget. Zenith also put the flag function back onto the > on/off switch, something present on the first three models of T/O, but > dropped for the G and H 500s. > > 10. Last but not at all least, the power-supply of these radios is > 'hot' any time they are plugged in. SO, be sure to UNPLUG your radio > whenever it is not actually in use. It is also a good idea to plug the > cord into the battery switch (on the side where the cord comes out) to > exercise that and keep the contacts clean. > > Good Luck. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 322266 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 23:18:38 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Man Shocked with 2000 Volts/30 Sec. and lives References: <1126112004.672851.265280@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126136826.261135.159930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Uncle Peter wrote: > "Larry" wrote in message > news:Xns96CBDF6F5694Fnoone@63.223.7.253... > >>" Uncle Peter" wrote in >>news:xx5Ue.74497$DW1.67214@fed1read06: >> >> >>>Not that I'm justifying the action, but how about some >>>FACTS and less BS? >>> >>> >> >>Hmm...paper he said she had heart attack writhing around on the floor with >>50KV zapping her body. >> >>Fact remains - Cops shouldn't have over 6V. They zapped little kids in a >>lot of places with this damned thing. >> >>These are the same cops that pointed the 10Ghz radar transmitter at the >>back of their skulls so you couldn't see the antennas. We're paying >>bigtime benefits for cataracts and blindness, now. They STILL have radar >>transmitters INSIDE police cars blasting RF in their faces bouncing off > > the > >>windscreen at 23 Ghz! >> >>-- >>Larry > > > Which paper was that in Larry? Certainly not this one: > > http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-01-29-taser_x.htm?csp=34 > > Or, any of the other 50 news releases relating to the story. Nothing about > a heart attack. Only that she is planning to sue. > > Where are the cops zapping little kids? Source??? > > BTW, what kind of range did those cops get by shooting 10 GHz signals > their heads? More fish stories. The guns only radiate when the trigger is > depressed. Chill out, Pete. Poster "Larry" has a penchant for over-statement and inaccuracy. -Bill Article: 322267 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 23:29:03 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Global warming? More flooded radios, eh? But people are more References: <4YNRe.11553$p%3.45671@typhoon.sonic.net> <1126227343.964351.115480@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Tim Mullen wrote: > In -ex- writes: > > >>Ask a Manhattaner if they have EVER seen the Big Dipper. > > > That ain't the air, it's the LIGHT. > > Plus the risk of getting run over by a cab while staring up. > That sums up environmental pollution evidence in that those who experience it most are located within blocks of a publisher. So Tim, have ya ever seen the Big Dipper there? -Bill Article: 322268 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Global warming? More flooded radios, eh? But people are more important. Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 03:45:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4YNRe.11553$p%3.45671@typhoon.sonic.net> <1126227343.964351.115480@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> In -ex- writes: >That sums up environmental pollution evidence in that those who >experience it most are located within blocks of a publisher. Eh? >So Tim, have ya ever seen the Big Dipper there? In =Manhattan=??? Whaddya, kidding? We've got so much light going on here it's surprising you can see the moon. Seriously. Look up and you'll see a streetlight staring you in the face. There's a coupla them on every block, so you're never far from one. The one time I saw the Milky Way was in Vermont (had gone up there to retrieve a pre-war cabinet, 'natch) when we pulled the truck over and shut off the lights. Couldn't see my hand in front of my face. Looked up and... "So THAT's the Milky Way!" After five minutes of that we shrugged, got back in the van, and drove on to the City. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322269 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 00:08:19 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Global warming? More flooded radios, eh? But people are more References: <4YNRe.11553$p%3.45671@typhoon.sonic.net> <1126227343.964351.115480@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <8077e$43210ab4$4232bd41$11594@COQUI.NET> Tim Mullen wrote: > In -ex- writes: > > >>That sums up environmental pollution evidence in that those who >>experience it most are located within blocks of a publisher. > > > Eh? > > >>So Tim, have ya ever seen the Big Dipper there? > > > In =Manhattan=??? Whaddya, kidding? We've got so much light > going on here it's surprising you can see the moon. Seriously. > Look up and you'll see a streetlight staring you in the face. > There's a coupla them on every block, so you're never far from > one. > > The one time I saw the Milky Way was in Vermont (had gone up > there to retrieve a pre-war cabinet, 'natch) when we pulled the > truck over and shut off the lights. Couldn't see my hand in > front of my face. Looked up and... "So THAT's the Milky Way!" > > After five minutes of that we shrugged, got back in the > van, and drove on to the City. :) And thats my point. Around here a full moon through the window at 4 AM will wake you up like an oncoming locomotive... and you can still read a book by starlight under a new moon. Different perspective...and one that doesn't make press. The sky isnt 'falling' around here. -Bill Article: 322270 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4321110C.8A5D155A@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: This stops right now, Steven Dinius. References: <42CAFAC6.9418406@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 04:34:53 GMT To those still having trouble with Steven: I was cleaning old files out of this newsgroup and look what I found. It looks like another threat from Steven, doesn't it? "<<<< >>>>" wrote: > > They have no such call, I've contacted them The initial report was misfiled as a service request because the woman didn't get your name. BTW she thought you were a woman, and she's still laughing at you She said you sounded like a little girl as you sheered your threats to her about me and the church. The filing error will be corrected, after I forward the message where you admitted to calling the church. That will be all they need to get your phone records, and it can lead to jail time for you. I have the file number, but I won't give it to you. BTW. I was the one who made the offer to your ISP to let you keep your account if you would just leave the newsgroups alone. I should have just told them to kill your account right away, like they suggested. I wanted to give you another chance, but I see that it was a huge mistake. You just couldn't keep the agreement, could you? Here is part of their reply: > We are sorry for this. After one report, we had a talk with Mr. Dinius > regarding harassment. He assured me that it would not happen again and > that > he was just arguing back and forth with another person. That harassment > has > seemed to stop. However, we are clear with our policy of use of our > internet. I have spoken with our local law enforcement before we > accepted > him as a client. They assured me that one of the detectives was his > neighbor and felt him to be nothing more than a bag of wind but also > stated > that if something did come up they would take care of it. Just let me > know > what you would like us to do. > Would you like to discuss your lying with Earthlink? Do your best. I have a nice file of your posts, along with the Sheriff's report number waiting to give them if you try it. I also have the local veterans on my side. Some are lawyers, if you get my drift. Others are federal employees that know how and where to report people like you because they do it all day long as part of their government jobs. I also have access to a number of other services because of my disability. Right now would not be a good time to make any false charges against ANY veteran, and you've already made plenty that are archived in multiple places. I have avoided politics most of my life, but I recently decided to get heavily involved and I am going to apply my efforts to all things concerning veterans and their problems. I applied to join the DAV the other day, and I am going to spend less time on line so I can spend more time chasing down those who are a threat to veterans and their needs. Just to let you know, I have been in two lawsuits in my life and I won both. One was against a crooked politician, and the other was against a crooked lawyer who owned a used car lot and junkyard. They stole my restored '66 GTO and sold it the same day. they also took one of my service trucks while I was gone on a service call in the other truck. The politician forged two impound tickets, and the lawyer had his wrecker take the vehicles to a storage building at his junkyard. I Got my vehicles back along with cash settlements from both. After the lawsuit the politician couldn't get enough votes to stay in office, after almost 20 years. The crooked lawyer bragged before the court date that he had never made a settlement or lost a case in over 20 years. Oh, well, how the mighty crooked can fall. That broke his winning streak, and he lost a lot of cases after that. He also had a suspicious fire at another business he owned that was losing money, and they investigated him and his son for arson. It turned out he was making substandard mattresses and was about to lose the business so they torched the place for the insurance, but the place had been soaked with accelerants, and the fire was started with a timer. The big mistake was that they locked the doors on their way out, and they were the only ones with keys to the building. I think the son got a couple years in prison, because the dad had an alibi. > my number is unlisted, you don't have my address either. I don't want your phone number, but you live at xxxx Se 9th Ave. Spc S Ontario, OR. 97914-3822 Your parents live in Nampa, ID zip code 83686 and their phone number is (xxx) 465 - xxx3 Do you me want me to post their full street address and the rest of their phone number? After all, every one here should have a chance to call them to thank them for letting you live long enough to become such a fine, upstanding human being. Also, there is a veterans service office a few miles from you that might want to know about your threats to shut down a veterans aid program. So would some of the veterans groups in nearby towns. Its your call, Steven. I can be forced to play quite dirty if you make. I can be a good friend, but I can be quite the enemy, when I'm forced to be. Its obvious that you are not wanted here but you just won't take the hint. Escalate this game if you want, but you could end up paying dearly if it ends up in court. You could lose that government check and spend the rest of life behind bars if you keep harassing people. You are already on thin ice, and I have had offers from people in the mental health industry to try to have you forcibly committed for the rest of your life. Why don't you just go away and leave people alone? I doubt that you would last more than a couple weeks in jail before you were maimed or killed so you better hope for a mental hospital if you keep bothering people around here. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322271 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Microwave oven power From: Wayne Boatwright References: <8dednXP07uDTuoTeRVn-ig@aros.net> <1079-43193200-520@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <95idnbY9058rp4TeRVn-1w@comcast.com> <8mn0i1tt8jh0cs7i0r8a8tcl4lfulk00ji@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: 9 Sep 2005 07:12:48 +0200 On Thu 08 Sep 2005 08:55:40a, Andy Cuffe wrote in rec.antiques.radio+phono: > On Wed, 07 Sep 2005 21:49:39 GMT, Gordon Richmond > wrote: > > >>If the manufacturers made the reminder beep a switchable option, then >>those of us who don't want the irritation could switch it off. >> Actually, some models of GE over-the-range micros do have that feature. > Good idea. It seems that everything is designed for the stupidest > among us. > Andy Cuffe > > baltimora@psu.edu <-- Use this address until 12/31/2005 > > acuffe@gmail.com <-- Use this address after 12/31/2005 -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* ____________________________________________ My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four, unless there are three other people. Article: 322272 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: trans oceanic b600 Message-ID: References: <1126226031.844290.30190@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126232105.894908.189170@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 06:47:56 GMT Nice Web page and pics, Paul. I used to have a T/O just like that. Don't remember the model number, but appearance-wise it was identical. Had the Loctal tubes, too. I never could get the set to perform with that horsehoe-shaped shortwave magnet, but it got good reception off the telescopic antenna. Damned if I know what became of that set. I must have either sold it or given it away around about the mid to late '70s. Gordon Richmond Article: 322273 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4321358A.3DB294CA@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Now here's MY bench (abpr) References: <431e376f$1_14@Output.100ProofNews.com> <1126247984.992779.220840@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 07:10:43 GMT Too_Many_Tools wrote: > > I would like to see your photos. > > But I have no idea what "abpr" is. > > Care to tell me where to go to look. > > Thanks > > TMT news:alt.binary.pictures.radio but you can't get there with Google. You need a real news server that carries binary neswgroups. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322274 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43214299.28D013F3@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: This stops right now, Steven Dinius. References: <42CAFAC6.9418406@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 08:06:21 GMT Steven wrote: > > First of all I haven't lived at that address in ten years. > > Second of all, go to hell. > > Take your national PMS virus with you. > > Thirdly, you are a dying old man. Go for it. > > We'll see in the morning if you can match the cowardice and/or > brainlessness you claim I possess. > > Good luck, and have a nice day for a change. Oh, and stop ruining your > friends' group with your vendetta. I welcome any takers, and say > goodbye to you in advance. > > You guys sit there and screw up your gvroup while you waste time taking > useless potshots. If you want blood, send and man to do it right. It's > pathetic. You will expire from this planet angry and unfulfilled, and > you have torn any relationship you feel you have with God apart, > leaving you a wretch by your own definition. > > You think that if I appear in any group you go to you must attack. You > are foolish. I feel sorry for you. You have lost already. Now you may > be quiet and leave me alone, for I have not spoken to you in any other > manner until you made this retarded attack. You are deceitful and not > being honorable, and I think you are a sad shell of who you once were. > This is a shame. Cease, desist and quit wasting time you have little of > left. you are disgracing yourself and not me. I remain indifferent. Yawn. Is that the best you can do, little girl? -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322275 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Global warming? More flooded radios, eh? But people are more important. Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 03:57:12 -0600 Message-ID: References: <4YNRe.11553$p%3.45671@typhoon.sonic.net> <99169$4317f227$4232bd15$2799@COQUI.NET> <1126224563.455956.199380@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> omg. i think you nailed it on the head pretty much. nobody ever admits these things. am i dreaming? randy > Randy: > > Almost the same answer as to William. This is not really a "good" or > "bad" issue, but one of the facts of life. The present primacy of the > US is based on several hundred years of exploitation of native riches > in land, minerals and energy and about 100 years of increasing > exploitation of riches from around the world. This coupled with an > energetic and very well educated population supplemented by millions of > very bright and hard-working individuals from elsewhere coming in all > the time. What with all that energy, available space and wealth and > education the US could not help but become great. > > However, and for the first time the rest of the world is catching up in > education and we appear to be losing our energy and replacing it with a > sense of entitlement. We are certainly becoming far less competitive in > several critical ways from industry to education. And it still remains > that the US is the world's largest consumer at every level. > > These are simple facts whatever spin or veneer is put on them. If we > wish to retain our primacy and the life style(s) that go along with it, > we had damned well better claw our way back to the being the best and > the brightest such that the world must *necessarily* look to us for > progress and hope as they once did in the past almost universally. Oh, > and with primacy does come inevitably a sense of resentment from those > who have not. Especially when they can identify the also obvious fact > that they live as they do so that we might live as we do. Do not ever > lose sight of this fact. It is a reality the moment one steps out of > the 'western' orbit. > > Just consider that Japan, a Country smaller than California with only > 11% of its land being arable has the second-largest economy in the > world. And with a population about half that of the US at > 125,000,000..... China with a population of over 1,200,000,000 does not > come close (yet). Nor does India at just over 1,000,000,000. But the > two of them are catching up. Fast. > > We are entitled to nothing we do not earn. We have to move faster, be > brighter, be more creative, more inventive and work harder than > countries with more than four times our population who are ALL of them > hungry and ALL of them wanting to live like our ever-decreasing middle > class. And we have to work better than we are even to complete with a > country a tiny fraction of our size with half the population. > > Also all facts. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 322276 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Almost made it safely... Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 04:04:49 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1126216425.375087.27910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7P3Ue.27626$mb4.4919@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> "-ex-" wrote in message news:f07d9$4320ca8d$4232bd7d$13335@COQUI.NET... > jim menning wrote: > > >> have to assume responsibility for the damage. I agreed, then showed him >> that it had been packaged and shipped by the "UPS Store" in New Milford, >> CT. >> He expects someone will catch hell over this. > > A thought occurs to me. > > Do the personnel at "UPS Store" franchises get any particular training on > packing? sure they do. just like the kids running the grill at mcdonalds learn to cook... randy Article: 322277 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: This stops right now, Steven Dinius. From: Wayne Boatwright References: <42CAFAC6.9418406@earthlink.net> <4321110C.8A5D155A@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: 9 Sep 2005 12:12:48 +0200 WHY DON'T YOU BOTH GO TO HELL! Quit cluttering up the newsgroup with your boring crap! -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* ____________________________________________ My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four, unless there are three other people. Article: 322278 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Almost made it safely... From: Wayne Boatwright References: <1126216425.375087.27910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7P3Ue.27626$mb4.4919@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: 9 Sep 2005 12:20:30 +0200 On Fri 09 Sep 2005 03:04:49a, xrongor wrote in rec.antiques.radio+phono: > > "-ex-" wrote in message > news:f07d9$4320ca8d$4232bd7d$13335@COQUI.NET... >> jim menning wrote: >> >> >>> have to assume responsibility for the damage. I agreed, then showed him >>> that it had been packaged and shipped by the "UPS Store" in New Milford, >>> CT. >>> He expects someone will catch hell over this. >> >> A thought occurs to me. >> >> Do the personnel at "UPS Store" franchises get any particular training on >> packing? > > sure they do. just like the kids running the grill at mcdonalds learn to > cook... They probably go to the same school! -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* ____________________________________________ My doctor told me to stop having intimate dinners for four, unless there are three other people. Article: 322279 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" References: <1125615837.168630.234920@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8OqdnaFCFpNaU4reRVn-rw@adelphia.com> <1125669853.309991.125890@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [O.T.] Re: Thanks for the reminder! Message-ID: Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 11:45:18 GMT This wasn't as much fun as I thought it would be. I only got one bite. But my responses generally do reflect my views on the subject. But I did learn some things important about liberals I hadn't realized before. They do not connect past events with the present. Maybe that's why they keep trying to implement Socialism even though it has failed every time its tried. And I could never understand the "murdering of civilians" line. They are counting the insurgents as "civilians", and the people they kill are our fault. Interesting P.S. Colin Powell is a closet liberal. I lost all respect for him when he declared he was pro-abortion. "Carter-K8VT" wrote in message news:ARFTe.477$Xq6.175@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net... > Robert Murrell wrote: > > > "Carter-K8VT" wrote in message > news:WS0Se.7955$sF6.3001@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net... > > > > >> AuroraOldRadios wrote: > >> > >> > >>> Most reasonable people now believe our action was wrong. "Victory", > yeah, that was stupid. But how do we get out of this > >>> mess? > > > > > > > > In Californica maybe. The distinction between good and evil requires > > setting absolutes, something a liberal can not do. Therefore, it is > > OK if they attack us first, because we deserve it (moral > > equivallency). > > Please check the header; that portion was written by "AuroraOldRadios", > not me. Therefore I cannot respond. > > >> The short answer is: We don't. But wait...who ever said our > >> administration *wants* to get out? > >> > >> As you pointed out above--- > >> > >> *BOGUS* reasons for the "war": > >> > >> --WMDs (even disavowed by the administration themselves in > >> December, 2004) > > > > > > > > Even Clinton was pushing this one. And remember, he was the one who > > fired on Osama first. Remember the "2 million dollar missle fired at > > a ten dollar tent and hitting a camel in the butt." > > > > But Clinton is history, he's gone ,he's out of the picture and *he* didn't > start the war. Thus, your response is a non sequitur. The current > administration that *did* start the war (based on the WMD "excuse") > actually admitted themselves in December of '04 that there *WERE NO WMDs*. > This is a closed, non-debatable issue per the administration itself. Why > are you beating a dead horse? > > [As an aside, Iraq is (or at least was) a sovereign nation and sovereign > nations can have WMDs (even though Iraq didn't). There are at least a > dozen and probably more nations out there that *do* have WMDs. Should we > go to war with them?] > > > >> --Saddam was a bad guy...(even though we may be fast approaching > >> killing as many innocent Iraqis as Saddam ever did). > > > > > Tell that to the Kurds and the Shiites. Why don't you do some > > research on the number of his citizens he killed with WMDs (chemical > > weapons). > > > Tell that to the innocent Iraqi civilians we killed. I'm not saying > Saddam wasn't a bad guy, two bit tin horn dictator, but the world is > full of those and you just can't invade every sovereign nation because > of that. Again, we are fast approaching the point where we have killed > as many or more innocent civilians than Saddam. I truly miss your point > on this one unless you are trying to say that "two wrongs make a right". > > > > Remember, the number of US troops killed has not yet > > reached the number of Americans killed on 9/11. > > > Huh? What does that have to do with anything? It has been widely > acknowledged by media of all stripes that Iraq had *no* tie-in with > 9/11. (other than in the most trivial way, like Saddam might have met > Bin Laden. For that matter, look at the 1983 picture of a smiling > Rumsfeld with his arm around Saddam). If I may refresh your memory, 15 > of the 19 mad dog 9/11 crazies were from--are you ready?--Saudi Arabia! > (and *none* from Iraq). Logic would seem to dictate that we should be at > war with the Saudis, if anyone. > > > > >> --the fraudulent "yellowcake" scandal > > > > > Which (surprise) turned out to be true, but is a fact convieniently > > ignored by the liberals. > > > > This IS a surprise. Even the "liberal" Wall Street Journal concedes the > point that the whole yellowcake affair was indeed a fraud, based on a > counterfeit document. It seems you are beating another dead horse. > > > > >> *REAL* reasons for us being in Iraq [1]: > >> > >> --A *fantastic* geopolitical location in the Middle East; a great > strategic location for our bases. > > > > > > > > Lebenon would be a MUCH better location, > > > Huh??? How did you get on the topic of Lebanon?? The war already is in > Iraq, our kids are getting killed and maimed in Iraq. What in Heaven's > name does Lebanon have to do with anything? > > > > > >> --An oil reserve possibly as large as that in Saudi Arabia. > > > > > > > > Why didn't we just invade Veneuela if we wanted oil? We could have > > just driven there. > > > > You missed the point--we didn't go there for *just* the oil. You have to > look at the *entire package* of assets. > > > >> --The largest supply of fresh water in the Middle East (Tigris and > >> Euphrates rivers). > > > > > Well, I can't argue with that. But that area is the traditional > > SOURCE of invading armies > > > What is your point here? Just because something was that way in the past, > it doesn't mean it has to be (or is) that way now. Again, look at the > *entire* package--water, oil, strategic location, opportunity. > > > > >> Why don't we have an exit strategy? ... because with reasons like > >> that, the administration *doesn't want* to exit. > > > > > I don't believe anyone ever thought that they would be slaughtering > > their own kind. > > > > This is a point worthy of an entire debate on its own, but briefly... > > Some of the "insurgents" are really "freedom fighters", fighting against > what they view as invaders and occupiers of their sovereign nation and > thus, sadly, are bombing our troops. Probably what you and I would do if > someone invaded *our* nation. > > Some others are "opportunist" terrorists coming in from other countries > that are taking advantage of the situation and doing all they can to > foment instability by bombing *everyone*. > > Unfortunately, our administration seems to have played right into the > hands of Bin Laden by invading a sovereign Islamic nation and thus > opening a real Pandora's Box. > > > >> (Now if the administration could just find a way around all those > inconvenient dead bodies and the maiming and crippling of our > >> youth). > > > > > > > > No one said war was easy. > > > > Nor did anyone say we should go to war and invade a sovereign nation and > have our kids maimed and killed based on bogus, trumped up reasons. > > Article: 322280 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: OT - Help identify tower manufacturer Message-ID: Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 12:21:07 GMT Gentlemen, I am attempting to identify the tower manufacture of the tower pictured at: http://www.ppinyot.com/antenna.htm. I would like to properly design a base for it given the manufacturers specs plus perhaps pick up additional sections. The tower seems to be of a stamped steel design (not tubular) with stamped steel cross members. It has been well maintained by the silent key's son. I gather it is about 10 to 15 years old. There is an unpainted ladder chained to one side for storage. Please do not confuse this as part of the tower. Also if you happen to recognize the beam please Identify it too. Unfortunately some one discarded all the paper work not knowing it's value. Thanks Paul paul at ppinyot dot com Article: 322281 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Abner Yokum Subject: Re: Record Price for 9-tube Walton?? Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 08:00:56 -0700 Message-ID: References: In article , Blacksmith wrote: > On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 22:31:46 -0400, " Uncle Peter" > wrote: > > > > >"Buck Frobisher" wrote in message > >news:NY5Ue.18073$I02.1018637@news20.bellglobal.com... > >> " Uncle Peter" wrote in message > >> news:g62Ue.74482$DW1.73193@fed1read06... > >> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6557014566 > >> > > >> > If you look at the purchaser's recent buys, you'll see he gets what he > >> wants, without too much regard for price. > >> > >> -- > >> "How did I get round from eating square meals?" > >> > >> regards, > >> > >> Frank Johansen > >> Aurora, Ontario > >> > >> > >It took two bidders to get it there, though! Wish I had something he > >really, really wanted. Ha ha.. > > > >Pete > > > > The other bidder was the one who had the Walton I worked on recently. > He wanted one for the other side of his fireplace and was determined > to get this one, but not determined enough I guess. > > There' ll be a few more come up for auction now that others have seen > the price of this one. > > .... > Blacksmith > > > > ... > Radio Literature on disc. > 136 issues (11 years) of SERVICE magazines on CD or DVD. > 175 issues of RADIO RETAILING magazines on CD or DVD. > Very early NRI home-study radio courses on CD. > Mallory Encyclopedia on CD. > Record Changers & Recorders by Rider (1941) on CD. > Radio Troubleshooter's Handbook > -- renovatedradiosdotcom -- He could have got one with a less original finish for a $3000 BIN. Article: 322282 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" References: <1126216425.375087.27910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126218642.631126.5620@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1126219737.308696.286120@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Almost made it safely... Message-ID: Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 15:13:48 GMT These folks NEVER bother with a dolly. A while back I had FedEx pick up a box. This cute little blond shows up. The box I was shipping weighed 75 pounds, so she asked me if I'd load it in the truck for her. The request kind of suprised me, but I did it anyway. Right next to the rear door in her truck was a dolly. She was too lazy to go get it! Kinda pissed me off. Steve Steven wrote in message news:1126219737.308696.286120@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > He didn't use a hand truck (dolly)??? > > Was it a large, heavy set? If so I would talk to his supervisor about > unsafe practices, as it should be moved on a dolly to prevent that from > happening and protect the worker's back etc. from injuries. > Article: 322283 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: 1939 Silvetone model 3127 Message-ID: <%ZhUe.71423$3S5.35375@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 15:36:27 GMT "Jim King" <62-gt-hawk@comcast.net> wrote in message news:cdedndWFGMWOOrzeRVn-tQ@comcast.com... "I hope someone can give me some info on this radio I believe the push buttons are catlin. The are an apricot of maybe a lite peach color and when I cleaned them up they have this very nice translucent look to them." Not likely to be Catalin. How about posting some pictures of this radio someplace, so we can try to identify it? The Stein Silvertone book didn't include that model number. Is it a US Silvertone, or Canadian? jim menning Article: 322284 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Global warming? More flooded radios, eh? But people are more important. Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 09:37:16 -0600 Message-ID: References: <4YNRe.11553$p%3.45671@typhoon.sonic.net> <99169$4317f227$4232bd15$2799@COQUI.NET> i heard a comment on the radio that there were WMD's in iraq too. in fact, i heard it over and over and over and over and over. didnt make it true... randy > > I heard a comment on the radio just the other day that the ozone depletion > had stopped and is now trending in the other direction. > Go figure. > > -BM Article: 322285 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "MIT" References: <4YNRe.11553$p%3.45671@typhoon.sonic.net> <1126227343.964351.115480@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1126269635.587266.155620@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Global warming? More flooded radios, eh? But people are more important. Message-ID: <__hUe.2950$6e1.2785@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 15:37:30 GMT So, that there are measurable results from an R12 ban is not at all surprising. That it happened 'so quickly' might be a little bit. Best to say, we got lucky.................... ive always wondered how you measure the venting of millions of old ac units, refrigerators,air dryers etc that is still going on to this day and will continue for years to come. maybe its a good thing mit "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1126269635.587266.155620@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... | Mpfffff.... | | Bill: whether it is man-made or natural, the globe _is_ warming. Sea | level _is_ rising. Using recent events in NO as a platform, and as an | illustration of the unintended consequences of the actions of man | consider: | | 1. New Orleans is sinking, at a rate of about one inch or so (varies | from a bit less than one inch mostly to a bit more than three inches in | certain areas) per year. This is as a result of river-borne silt no | longer being allowed to settle naturally. Were this to have been | allowed to happen the city would have been high and dry some 100 years | ago, with the river being some fifty miles or so to the west. | | 2. Since the Mississippi has been channelized for shipping, and since | the levee system has been installed to preserve the location of New | Orleans "on the water", the sinking of the city and the sinking of the | barrier islands (AKA Bayou) beyond it has accelerated to the point | where they mostly no longer exist in any meaningful way. | | 3. The next 'big one' that hits the city head on (and it will happen, | perhaps even this season, perhaps even three times (Florida last year | for example) may do far more damage. Most of the damage within the city | itself happened because less than 400 yards of levee (of which there | are miles) broke. And Katrina "missed" hitting the city with its most | powerful side. Really. | | So, from one point of view, what happened in New Orleans was a man-made | disaster precipitated by a natural event, but inevitable in any case. | If blame is to be assigned in any meaningful way, it belongs to those | who first decided that *Man* could overcome nature in this location and | with this method over the long term. | | Getting back to global warming, CO2 and Ozone. | | Ozone has nothing to do with global warming. What it has to do with is | the fact that the ozone layer serves as a natural barrier to UV light. | Excessive UV damages our skin causing cancer, causes some plants to | grow excessivly, and some plants to be stunted. In a perverse way, this | specific result can be both dangerous and beneficial depending on which | plant is 'wanted' at the time. R12 Freon acts as a catalyst when it | reaches the ozone layer. It does not break down quickly (it does, but | it takes years). So, like any catalyst (such as the fraction of an | ounce of platinum in your catalytic converter) it lasts a long time. | Now, one more thing about the Ozone layer is that it is resilient, is | constantly being renewed, and high levels of solar activity help it | grow. We are just coming off a high-cycle of solar activity. So, that | there are measurable results from an R12 ban is not at all surprising. | That it happened 'so quickly' might be a little bit. Best to say, we | got lucky. | | Volcanos: Mostly do not put out CO2, but SO2s and SO3s, ash and other | fine particulates and various other chemicals What they do very well is | inject these chemicals very high in the atmosphere where they increase | the albedo of the earth. BTW, so do forest fires. This actually can | cause regional cooling. There is a long history of this phenomenon as | recently as Mt. St. Helens and the Philippines volcano some years back. | Forest Fires do put out CO2, but the much greater product is ash, | _temporarily_ countering the greenhouse effect of CO2. | | Now, global warming is measured overall in fractions of a degree. But | the local effects are greater. In point of fact, global warming tends | to increase the extremes of weather between the tropical and temperate | zones whilst overall warming takes place at the poles and at the | equator. Hurricanes are one result. That we are up to "O" with | essentially two months left in the season, and that the curve has been | trending to more and more powerful storms is indicative of this | increase in extremes. | | So, we can continue to keep our heads in the sand, or we can at least | attempt to reduce our impact on the planet. That man can make a | difference and that this difference can be deadly is now quite obvious. | Either we recognize this or we don't. A pretty simple concept. | | Peter Wieck | Wyncote, PA | Article: 322286 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT - Help identify tower manufacturer From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 15:53:01 GMT In article , p.pinyotREMOVE@REMOVEworldnet.attREMOVE.netREMOVE says... > > >Gentlemen, > >I am attempting to identify the tower manufacture of the tower pictured at: >http://www.ppinyot.com/antenna.htm. I would like to properly design a > >Thanks Paul > >paul at ppinyot dot com > > > Hi Paul... the tower is a Rohn Spaulding Self Supporter... you didn't mention the height of the tower.... they were available up to 64 feet in height... depending on which sections you purchased.... I have a Rohn Tower Spec book... it has all the information in it that you would need to build a proper base for the tower... not sure about the Beam.. perhaps a Cushcraft A-4 ... the lower powered early model I think???... I could be wrong here... Rotor???... not sure what it is... hope at least a Ham 3 or 4 model... Next... what is it worth?... not a whole lot at this point... and you won't know the total condition until you get it down... example... I have one laying here.. on the ground... a 64 footer.. it has some damage to the top section... all the bolts and nuts were a total mess.... so those I pitched when I took it down... the price of the one I have laying here... tower needs a paintjob.. has a little surface rust... gimme 50 bucks and haul it away... and its already on the ground.... so the one I have needs a paintjob... all new bolts/nuts/washers.. and a little work on the top section... yes I know your too far from me to take this one... just giving you the idea of what it is worth.... the saleable value of the rotor is probably more than the value of the tower and antenna on the used Ham Market... Next.... how to get it down.. it takes a specially built Rohn Gin Pole to take that tower down... yes I have one here... Gin Pole mounts to each section near the top of 2nd section from top... pole sticks up above top section.... pulley and rope... remove all the bolts.. pull a bit... send down tower section to the ground crew... move pole down one section and repeat until its all on the ground... bottom section will take 3 guys to remove it... The mount that is there now is a "Tilt Mount" made so that you can tilt the whole tower over to take it apart... problem is I don't see anything available to use as fulcrum point.... large tree?... something that won't move that you can tie off to to lower it all in one piece... perhaps there is something?... depending on the height of the tower ... the 50 footer version.. actually only 46 feet with the section overlaps... it takes about a 15 foot dead man post right next to the tower and a couple of cable runs to two different points on the tower and it can be a complete tilt over crank it up operation with an oversized boat winch.. anyway... send us more info on the height etc... and will look up the Rohn SPecs for you... email us at k9uwa at arrl dot net John k9uwa Article: 322287 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: [O.T.] Re: Thanks for the reminder! References: <1125615837.168630.234920@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8OqdnaFCFpNaU4reRVn-rw@adelphia.com> <1125669853.309991.125890@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 17:44:08 GMT Robert Murrell wrote: > P.S. Colin Powell is a closet liberal. I lost all respect for him when he > declared he was pro-abortion. It seems like once again, you have either dodged the point or you just don't get it... The original topic was the war in Iraq. Not Lebanon. Not abortion. Not whether or not you respect Colin Powell. The *POINT IS* that Colin Powell was one of the original architects of the war in Iraq (the original topic, remember?). Colin Powell has now publicly stated on ABC News that a) there were no WMDs, b) there was *no* connection between 9/11 and Iraq and c) he is "deeply pained by this blot on his record" (to directly quote him). In other words, he is admitting that the "war" in Iraq is a fraud and that our brave kids are being maimed and killed for a lie. *THAT* is the point. Sorry, can't make it any simpler or more direct than that. I guess we will continue to agree to disagree. Article: 322288 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "rfredericks" Subject: Re: This stops right now, Steven Dinius. Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 15:06:40 -0500 Message-ID: <11i3qqmc8vqdd8e@corp.supernews.com> References: <42CAFAC6.9418406@earthlink.net> <4321110C.8A5D155A@earthlink.net> This topic has been dead for months. Why bring this crap back now out of nowhere? "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message news:Xns96CC1F9E238C5waynesgang@217.22.228.19... > WHY DON'T YOU BOTH GO TO HELL! > > Quit cluttering up the newsgroup with your boring crap! Article: 322289 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 16:09:22 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: WTB: AK 20 audio xfmr Message-ID: <575d$4321ebf7$4232bdd3$5770@COQUI.NET> For the Compact 7570 model. Tnx, Bill Article: 322290 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Record Price for 9-tube Walton?? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1126293597.684612.300110@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 20:13:04 GMT In article <1126293597.684612.300110@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, eb062559@aol.com says... > > this set is also full of brand new capacitors.... yellow ones etc.. the only thing that is original is the cabinet is supposedly NOT refinished and is an excellent example of such.... and I personally after having restored about 15 or 20 of these things including some that had original nice finishes on them... and no I didn't do anything to them.... I question whether this one is an original finish or not.... I think that for its age it is too light to be an original.... Even the Speaker isn't "Original" Its ReConed 8 years ago.... Jeez... John k9uwa Article: 322291 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Hamfest at Balston Spa NY Saturday Message-ID: Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 20:52:33 GMT There will be a ham fest at the Saratoga county fairgrounds off exit 12 of the 87 Northway. Article: 322292 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Global warming? More flooded radios, eh? But people are more important. Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 21:15:08 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4YNRe.11553$p%3.45671@typhoon.sonic.net> <1126227343.964351.115480@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <8077e$43210ab4$4232bd41$11594@COQUI.NET> In <8077e$43210ab4$4232bd41$11594@COQUI.NET> -ex- writes: >And thats my point. Around here a full moon through the window at 4 AM >will wake you up like an oncoming locomotive... and you can still read a >book by starlight under a new moon. Different perspective...and one >that doesn't make press. >The sky isnt 'falling' around here. I see what you're saying. The folks most likely to put out tomes and treatises about pollution are living in cities where they can't see the night sky. Dunno if that's true or not, but I don't think anyone's not aware that not being able to see many stars is because of light "pollution", nothing more. Turn the lights out and the stars come back. Even with all the lights you can see some stars, and, despite my hyperbole, the moon is visible. There's a guy called the Village Astronomer who sets up a telescope on nice nights in Greenwich Village on an opportune street corner to give passersby a glimpse of whatever can be seen on that particular night. Kind of a neat thing to stumble across while trolling the streets crowded with people on a warm summer evening. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322293 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Global warming? More flooded radios, eh? But people are more important. Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 21:16:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4YNRe.11553$p%3.45671@typhoon.sonic.net> <1126227343.964351.115480@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <8077e$43210ab4$4232bd41$11594@COQUI.NET> In <8077e$43210ab4$4232bd41$11594@COQUI.NET> -ex- writes: >And thats my point. Around here a full moon through the window at 4 AM >will wake you up like an oncoming locomotive... And another thing -- since when are you in bed by 4AM? :) :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322294 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ron H" References: <431e376f$1_14@Output.100ProofNews.com> <1126247984.992779.220840@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4321358A.3DB294CA@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Sorry - Now here's MY bench (abpr) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 16:37:55 -0500 Message-ID: <4321fbbd$1_15@Output.100ProofNews.com> Sorry about the newsgroup... I'll have to figure out how to put the photos somewhere else and post a link.... That is if I can ever actually talk to tech support at SBCGlobal...... Can't get past the talking computers! Maybe if I stop paying the bill!!!!!! K3PID Ron H. "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:4321358A.3DB294CA@earthlink.net... > Too_Many_Tools wrote: > > > > I would like to see your photos. > > > > But I have no idea what "abpr" is. > > > > Care to tell me where to go to look. > > > > Thanks > > > > TMT > > news:alt.binary.pictures.radio but you can't get there with Google. > You need a real news server that carries binary neswgroups. > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida > x-- 100 Proof News - http://www.100ProofNews.com x-- 30+ Days Binary Retention with High Completion x-- Access to over 1.9 Terabytes per Day - $8.95/Month x-- UNLIMITED DOWNLOAD Article: 322295 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ianto Subject: Re: Global warming? More flooded radios, eh? But people are more important. Message-ID: <5qv3i1tgefcuejhnldpgei2bo2op225b56@4ax.com> References: <4YNRe.11553$p%3.45671@typhoon.sonic.net> <99169$4317f227$4232bd15$2799@COQUI.NET> <1126297308.807197.23710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 16:45:49 -0500 On 9 Sep 2005 13:21:48 -0700, "Peter Wieck" wrote: >Once again: > >I will send via priority mail within the US and its territories or by >standard mail anywhere else in the world a good 80 rectifier tube (ST >shaped) to the first person who, without research, gives me the origin >of "what I say three times is true". Please note that this is a repeat >offer. No one got it the first time. > >This form of proof is also known as "Proof by repetition". > >Peter Wieck >Wyncote, PA The poem 'The Hunting of the Snark' by Lewis Carroll contains a line expressing the same thing but the wording is slightly different. In the second verse the Bellman says: "Just the place for a Snark! I have said it twice: That alone should encourage the crew. Just the place for a Snark! I have said it thrice: What I tell you three times is true." I have to admit that I did check my copy of Lewis Carroll's works to make sure my memory wasn't failing me. Mike Capel capel AT mts DOT net Article: 322296 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 18:29:47 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Bought a signal generator References: Message-ID: <994d0$43220cdd$4232bd5c$14674@COQUI.NET> Trey wrote: > as simple as it might be. I was hoping to try to learn how to align a set > today, but it seems that wont happen. It says I need to use a condenser > also, and I dont have one. I also do not know which is the control grid, or > how to look it up. Try just connecting to the antenna...or better still, not directly connected at all. Use a little loop of wire on the sig gen lead and place it close to the radio's antenna. The stuff about connecting to grids, etc is a nice procedure for aligning totally from scratch (as at the factory) but really isn't required for peaking up a working radio. Keep the sig gen output as low as possible while still being able to discern the signal. -Bill Article: 322297 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: steve Subject: Re: Record Price for 9-tube Walton?? Message-ID: References: <1126293597.684612.300110@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 22:51:34 GMT Hello all. Been a very long time since i've posted. Just got free agent installed on this computer so I could find a taker for some free Heathkit speaker i'm trying to give away. I figured I load up the mesages on this group to see how things are going. I just went upstairs to look at my 100% original untouched untested unplayed (by me) 7s232. There is a slight diference in the color of the veneer and unveneered wood peices so I could understand the two tone effect my show itself at the right angle in sun light. Hower, I would be very skeptical of it. Even if the radio remained untouched by hands or anything since 1938 I would expect at a minimum at least some darkening of the finish and a nick here or there, some flaking of the dark pigment around the griil. That thing looks like brand new. I really really like original finish radios and have several very nice ones over the years. Even the Radio Bar I used to have wich had an what I considered an imaculate original finish still had a few flaws >from the years. That waltons is almost too perfect if you know what I mean. On the other hand that price has got me thinking that for 1/2 that price i'd probably be willing to part with my 7S232. I might go ahead and restore the chassis and put in on ebay to see what it does. Steve S. On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 20:13:04 GMT, k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) wrote: >In article <1126293597.684612.300110@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, >eb062559@aol.com says... >> >> > >this set is also full of brand new capacitors.... yellow ones etc.. >the only thing that is original is the cabinet is supposedly >NOT refinished and is an excellent example of such.... and I >personally after having restored about 15 or 20 of these things >including some that had original nice finishes on them... and no >I didn't do anything to them.... > >I question whether this one is an original finish or not.... I think >that for its age it is too light to be an original.... >Even the Speaker isn't "Original" Its ReConed 8 years ago.... > >Jeez... > >John k9uwa Article: 322298 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <4YNRe.11553$p%3.45671@typhoon.sonic.net> <1126227343.964351.115480@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1126294986.618353.244610@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Global warming? More flooded radios, eh? But people are more important. Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 19:19:18 -0400 "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1126294986.618353.244610@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > It's not about giving our selves too much credit. Science is not all > knowing and all seeing but a lot of really smart people with test > laboratories and terabytes of computing power for modelling have come > to the conclusion that the global temperature is rising as a result of > carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. I acknowledge that humans > are small (look at Katrina if you have doubts), but when there are > billions covering the earth, we CAN have a major effect. It's not a > linear effect, either. Chaos in the weather increases quickly with > temperature. > > What components of volcanic gases deplete ozone? (not being sarcastic, > I really want to know) > > One fridge...no big deal...10 million fridges a year...hmmm..... > > - Tox > Problem with computers: Garbage In, Garbage Out. I've seen degreed EEs provide pages of math to "prove" a point, all while using erroneous data to make the point. There are also a lot of "really smart" scientists who maintain the earth is in geological warming trend, and that global warming isn't man induced Pete Article: 322299 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <42CAFAC6.9418406@earthlink.net> <4321110C.8A5D155A@earthlink.net> <11i3qqmc8vqdd8e@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: This stops right now, Steven Dinius. Message-ID: Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 23:38:01 GMT "rfredericks" wrote in message news:11i3qqmc8vqdd8e@corp.supernews.com... > This topic has been dead for months. Why bring this crap back now out of > nowhere? It was reintroduced by the OP. Article: 322300 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ron H" References: <431e376f$1_14@Output.100ProofNews.com> <35nsh15p0va3jdv42j5ahcq0pmta8h8a22@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Now here's MY bench (abpr) Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 18:42:00 -0500 Message-ID: <43221891$1_12@Output.100ProofNews.com> Geeesh! I didn't intend to start a thread on the merits of binary newsgroups..... I'll try to do better! As for everyone already having the program, I believe that Microsoft has 94% of the market and Outlook Express is included with every copy of Whinedos..... Right along with IExplorer. Now getting to a real server might be another problem!! K3PID Ron H. x-- 100 Proof News - http://www.100ProofNews.com x-- 30+ Days Binary Retention with High Completion x-- Access to over 1.9 Terabytes per Day - $8.95/Month x-- UNLIMITED DOWNLOAD Article: 322301 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: While ARF is being restored... Message-ID: References: Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 23:43:11 GMT Thank you Syl! Ken (in Central Mass) > There is always Z-Forum: www.oldradioz.com/forum > > For your daily fix. > > All are welcome, but squirrels. > > Syl > > > Article: 322302 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 19:51:30 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Record Price for 9-tube Walton?? References: <1126293597.684612.300110@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126307584.369718.80150@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <485eb$43222003$4232bd77$14748@COQUI.NET> Eddie Brimer wrote: > i would take a perfect totally original > over a yellow capped, mohawk tonered set ANY DAY. I don't think you'll get any argument there. -Bill Article: 322303 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Hagman" Subject: Re: Final Kutztown Roll Call Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 20:08:05 -0400 Message-ID: <11i48v5k8hhc04a@corp.supernews.com> References: <1126266605.273945.20840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I will be arriving lunchtime Friday in a big white Ford van, space #313. I am putting the final touches on the recapped RCA 262 I'm bringing to sell, in addition to the untouched Zenith 12H998 and various other things. Drop by and see me, I'll be setup by mid afternoon Fri. and camping overnight, leaving early afternoon Saturday. I can't wait! John H. Article: 322304 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <%ZhUe.71423$3S5.35375@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: 1939 Silvetone model 3127 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:40:00 GMT "Jim King" <62-gt-hawk@comcast.net> wrote in message news:qaidnYAhlJF-b7zeRVn-qg@comcast.com... I don't know if this radio is US or Canadian. I got it out of an estate and redid it. It was the most difficult radio I ever had to align. I'm not sure how to post pictures to the website give me some directions or your email address and I will send you some pictures. "jim menning" wrote in message news:%ZhUe.71423$3S5.35375@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com..." It would appear you already have my email address! (Look above). Send me the pictures, and I'll post it to the binaries for others to see. If you want to post them directly to the web, try one of the free image hosting services like http://www.imagehosting.us/ Post the pictures through them, then post the link they give you here. jim menning Article: 322305 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: How to post to a forum.... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:43:08 GMT http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting.php Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 322306 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <1125615837.168630.234920@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8OqdnaFCFpNaU4reRVn-rw@adelphia.com> <1125669853.309991.125890@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: [O.T.] Re: Thanks for the reminder! Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 20:29:00 -0400 "Carter-K8VT" wrote in message news:IRjUe.1177$Xq6.1135@newssvr22.news.prodigy.net... > Robert Murrell wrote: > >> P.S. Colin Powell is a closet liberal. I lost all respect for him when >> he declared he was pro-abortion. > > > It seems like once again, you have either dodged the point or you just > don't get it... > > The original topic was the war in Iraq. > > Not Lebanon. > > Not abortion. > > Not whether or not you respect Colin Powell. Sorry, must have taken a wrong turn somewhere, I though I was in RAR+P! Article: 322307 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: While ARF is being restored... Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 18:41:05 -0600 Message-ID: <26120-43222BA1-590@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: Yes thanks Syl ! Article: 322308 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Record Price for 9-tube Walton?? Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 18:56:23 -0600 Message-ID: <26120-43222F37-591@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <485eb$43222003$4232bd77$14748@COQUI.NET> I got to see the original untouched 15$ walton my friend got here , he brought it here to get an opinion on how to treat the finish . It was very dry and looked to be stored in an unheated place . All the trim was the same color as the rest otherwise very clean . I suggested he clean off any dirt with a damp rag then treat it with the lightest color of danish oil and let that all dry real good . He did and it looked real nice and it did darken to a shade much like a normal original finish on any typical like radio . He later added one more very thin rubbed danish oil coat then later a quick squirt of lacquer to only the top corners where it was till dry . The results were fantastic . The final color was just lighter than most walnut radio cabinets . I think you could have parked 10 Waltons new out of the box back then and found different shades . Article: 322309 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Global warming? More flooded radios, eh? But people are more important. Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 19:21:34 -0600 Message-ID: References: <4YNRe.11553$p%3.45671@typhoon.sonic.net> <1126227343.964351.115480@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1126294986.618353.244610@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> famous last words of those who think we cannot 'change' the world: 'we can never kill all those buffalo (wolf,tiger,insert animal here)' 'hey what happened to the hollywood sign. i cant see it any more from downtown' 'gee look at that pretty mushroom cloud' randy "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1126294986.618353.244610@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > It's not about giving our selves too much credit. Science is not all > knowing and all seeing but a lot of really smart people with test > laboratories and terabytes of computing power for modelling have come > to the conclusion that the global temperature is rising as a result of > carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases. I acknowledge that humans > are small (look at Katrina if you have doubts), but when there are > billions covering the earth, we CAN have a major effect. It's not a > linear effect, either. Chaos in the weather increases quickly with > temperature. > > What components of volcanic gases deplete ozone? (not being sarcastic, > I really want to know) > > One fridge...no big deal...10 million fridges a year...hmmm..... > > - Tox > Article: 322310 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Parts sources -- specifically Delco car radio Message-ID: <9BqUe.8308$Wd7.7585@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 01:24:21 GMT Right now on my bench is a Delco radio from a 1967 Lincoln. You read this right, the radio says FoMoCo on top and Delco on the bottom. Delco indeed made a handful of radios for Fords and Chryslers. In any case, the AM/FM switch is a pushbutton. The button pushes a ratchet gear, which turns a rotary switch step by step. This ratchet gear is made of Nylon, and is broken. I know that somebody makes, or at least made, a replacement ratchet gear for these radios. I know this because I've seen them -- customers have sent me these gears new in the bag and asked me to install them. The new ones are made of brass and last forever; however I have never been able to trace where they came from, and I haven't run into this for a few years -- I don't get many of these radios. Yes, I've checked Lincoln parts dealers all over the country. I've checked AAR and numerous other places that might have a clue. The only other person who has ever seen one is Dan Schulz of AAR, who has come across them but has no idea where they came from. This part, like many others has been reproduced as a new replacement. There are several outfits who have designed and built repro car radio parts, then kept it a secret. Often they make a batch of parts for a particular dealer. So the dealer is a middleman -- it's still to his advantage to make them available to those who use radio parts. Why such a manufacturer can't get in touch with potential customers is a mystery. So -- is anyone aware of some pocket business who might have specialized car radio parts available? (I'm well aware of parts for Chevrolet and Packard radios, but most others are sporadic) And to be more specific, has anyone seen these ratchet gears and know where I might find one? Thanks. Article: 322311 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1126314938.685765.209240@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: How to post to a forum.... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 01:27:50 GMT wrote in message news:1126314938.685765.209240@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > > should read: how to post a useless, non-responding link. > Worked fine here, maybe you should check out your computer. It even has the old Indianhead test pattern in it! jim menning Article: 322312 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: [O.T.] Re: Thanks for the reminder! References: <1125615837.168630.234920@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8OqdnaFCFpNaU4reRVn-rw@adelphia.com> <1125669853.309991.125890@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <2HqUe.2242$jE2.303@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 01:30:38 GMT Buck Frobisher wrote: > Sorry, must have taken a wrong turn somewhere, I though I was in RAR+P! Yeah, I felt the same way when I saw 40 (yes, forty!) posts about Maynard G. Krebs (Bob Denver Gone) instead of the 14 posts in this thread. :-) Article: 322313 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1126314938.685765.209240@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: How to post to a forum.... Message-ID: Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 21:58:04 -0400 a chié > should read: how to post a useless, non-responding link. Works fine here. Syl Article: 322314 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: [O.T.] Re: Thanks for the reminder! Message-ID: <48g4i15b5sns10so0snm5u3o13ik64v6ma@4ax.com> References: <8OqdnaFCFpNaU4reRVn-rw@adelphia.com> <1125669853.309991.125890@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2HqUe.2242$jE2.303@newssvr19.news.prodigy.com> Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 22:12:57 -0400 On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 01:30:38 GMT, Carter-K8VT wrote: >Buck Frobisher wrote: > >> Sorry, must have taken a wrong turn somewhere, I though I was in RAR+P! > >Yeah, I felt the same way when I saw 40 (yes, forty!) posts about >Maynard G. Krebs (Bob Denver Gone) instead of the 14 posts in this >thread. :-) It beats your stupid political rants that you bring over from the shortwave group. Article: 322315 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: While ARF is being restored... Message-ID: <9ag4i1520a1ktko6unsukllgq6g8ur91s5@4ax.com> References: Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 22:14:19 -0400 On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 23:43:11 GMT, Ken wrote: >Thank you Syl! > >Ken (in Central Mass) > > >> There is always Z-Forum: www.oldradioz.com/forum >> >> For your daily fix. >> >> All are welcome, but squirrels. >> >> Syl >> >> >> There are much better sites out there while you wait. Article: 322316 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: 1951 Magnavox TV tube diagram/schematic Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 02:17:44 GMT "wmartin2" wrote in message news:HbiTe.7850$_84.1574@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > > Took me long enough but I think I figured out how to add an attachment with > the pictures of the chasis as suggested. Again, anyone have a schematic or > maybe a tube layout. > Looks like it's a CT-219/220/222 chassis. Sam's 82-7. Email me directly for more info. jim menning Article: 322317 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1126266605.273945.20840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Final Kutztown Roll Call Message-ID: <4srUe.66843$EX.63602@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 02:22:56 GMT Bring a couple extra sets of those Octagon Philco push buttons for me :) Ive got to go down and do inventory on my other sets too. Keith "Mike Koste" wrote in message news:1126266605.273945.20840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > The biggest antique radio swapmeet on the East coast is a week away. > Stop by Booth 321, 321-A and bring your orphan knobs for matching. I > just might have what you need. Dial pointer, knobs springs and other > miscellaneous hardware also available. I also plan to bring three or > four better sets for the auction on Saturday and encourage others to do > likewise. This is our hobby's last Big Hurrah of the season. Certainly > hope you can join in the fun! > > Mike Koste > Gobs of Knobs > Ambler, PA > Article: 322318 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1126266605.273945.20840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11i48v5k8hhc04a@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Final Kutztown Roll Call Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 02:26:31 GMT Im arriving mid day Friday too. This time I need to buy less quantity and more quality. Basically because the basement is near full and the Squareback is the only space I have to stuff them in this time. So Im looking to pay a bit more for those Roachy shutterdials or higher end sets, than grab a wad of the low end stuff real cheap... that I got in the spring and will do over the winter, this Fall will hopefully net something "Exciting" to restore! -- Keith Keith Park Top Notch Restorations topnotch@nycap.rr.com Article: 322319 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: How to post to a forum.... Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 19:33:23 -0700 Message-ID: References: Steve J wrote: > Works with some web browsers but not with others. Try using MS > Internet Explorer. > (but why would you even want to go there?) > If you don't have the flash plugin installed for your browser, it won't work. I have a system running Red Hat Fedora 4 (Virtually no "out of the box" multimedia support-you have to download and install almost everything multimedia-related after installation of the main OS to play video at all) with Mozilla 1.7.8, and it worked fine here. If it works on Linux, it should work on almost everything else. -Scott Article: 322320 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: Global warming? More flooded radios, eh? But people are more important. Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 21:46:54 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4YNRe.11553$p%3.45671@typhoon.sonic.net> <1126227343.964351.115480@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1126269635.587266.155620@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 9 Sep 2005 05:40:35 -0700 "Peter Wieck" wrote: >Bill: whether it is man-made or natural, the globe _is_ warming. How many of you have seen the ice caves in Glacier National Park? I saw them in 1968, but if you are less than 30 years old, you're too late. The glacier that they were in is mostly gone, retreated back up the mountain. The caves no longer exist. The same is true of most of the world's glaciers; most of them are either gone or greatly diminished in size. The Ross Ice Shelf is gone. When was that, 10-15 years ago? I couldn't believe that a chunk of ice that big could just fall off, melt, and not get replaced. I'm concerned that even most people who agree that global warming is a fact still consider it a totally recent event, but it's been going on for 100 years. It's probably true that we don't fully understand it, but it's also true that it's still prudent to do what we can to minimize, slow or prevent it. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 322321 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 20:27:02 -0700 Message-ID: I went to the 'shack yesterday looking for a 70 volt transformer used in PA systems. This is a common part that they have had in their stores ever since I first set foot in one in 1973. This transformer, when the proper taps are used, makes a dandy inexpensive audio output transformer for boatanchors that only have 600 ohm output terminals for audio. (most receivers built for the military fall into this category). It's about 1/3 the price of what the "official" military surplus transformer normally fetches from most outlets, and many web sites devoted to these sets recommend it as a viable alternative. Well waddya know, they don't stock it anymore. It isn't even in their catalog now, even though they still sell at least one PA amp that has a 70 volt output. It has gone the way of many other components they no longer stock. I guess that it had to go to make room for Cell Phones, Ipod accessories, overpriced Monster Cables and other crap you can buy almost anywhere. What a bummer......... -Scott Article: 322322 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <%ZhUe.71423$3S5.35375@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1aGdnQO6LY4J1L_eRVn-tQ@comcast.com> Subject: Re: 1939 Silvetone model 3127 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 04:02:27 GMT "Jim King" <62-gt-hawk@comcast.net> wrote in message news:qaidnYAhlJF-b7zeRVn-qg@comcast.com... " I don't know if this radio is US or Canadian. I got it out of an estate and redid it. It was the most difficult radio I ever had to align. " Can anyone help Jim with this? Here are his pictures: http://show.imagehosting.us/show/654290/0/nouser_654/T0_-1_654290.jpg http://show.imagehosting.us/show/654293/0/nouser_654/T0_-1_654293.jpg http://show.imagehosting.us/show/654302/0/nouser_654/T0_-1_654302.jpg Article: 322323 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <432260C0.24EB7333@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. References: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 04:27:42 GMT "Scott W. Harvey" wrote: > > I went to the 'shack yesterday looking for a 70 volt transformer used in > PA systems. This is a common part that they have had in their stores > ever since I first set foot in one in 1973. > > This transformer, when the proper taps are used, makes a dandy > inexpensive audio output transformer for boatanchors that only have 600 > ohm output terminals for audio. (most receivers built for the military > fall into this category). It's about 1/3 the price of what the > "official" military surplus transformer normally fetches from most > outlets, and many web sites devoted to these sets recommend it as a > viable alternative. > > Well waddya know, they don't stock it anymore. It isn't even in their > catalog now, even though they still sell at least one PA amp that has a > 70 volt output. > > It has gone the way of many other components they no longer stock. I > guess that it had to go to make room for Cell Phones, Ipod accessories, > overpriced Monster Cables and other crap you can buy almost anywhere. > > What a bummer......... > > -Scott How about this one? Page 107 of the new MCM catalog # 50 , 2005/2006 http://www.mcminone.com Stock number 555-7120 $3.79 each, 1,527 in stock 10 watt 70 Volt line transformer will give you 500 ohms to 8 ohms at the 10 watt tap. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322324 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "lf" References: Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 01:27:01 -0400 "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:dftjq905g2@news3.newsguy.com... >I went to the 'shack yesterday looking for a 70 volt transformer used in PA >systems. This is a common part that they have had in their stores ever >since I first set foot in one in 1973. > > This transformer, when the proper taps are used, makes a dandy inexpensive > audio output transformer for boatanchors that only have 600 ohm output > terminals for audio. (most receivers built for the military fall into this > category). It's about 1/3 the price of what the "official" military > surplus transformer normally fetches from most outlets, and many web sites > devoted to these sets recommend it as a viable alternative. > > Well waddya know, they don't stock it anymore. It isn't even in their > catalog now, even though they still sell at least one PA amp that has a 70 > volt output. > > It has gone the way of many other components they no longer stock. I > guess that it had to go to make room for Cell Phones, Ipod accessories, > overpriced Monster Cables and other crap you can buy almost anywhere. > > What a bummer......... > > -Scott > I have 3 similar units here I'll sell ya for $3.00 each plus shipping. They're NOS to me. NEW IN BOX. Let me know in here how to get in touch. Article: 322325 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Date: Fri, 09 Sep 2005 22:24:36 -0700 Message-ID: References: <432260C0.24EB7333@earthlink.net> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > How about this one? Page 107 of the new MCM catalog # 50 , 2005/2006 > http://www.mcminone.com Stock number 555-7120 $3.79 each, 1,527 in > stock > 10 watt 70 Volt line transformer will give you 500 ohms to 8 ohms at the > 10 watt tap. Oh yeah, I know it's still available, and probably will be for a long time, as there are thousands of these PA systems still in use. My lament is that there is no longer a retail store nearby where I can just walk in and buy one. In my youth there were a dozen or more, Rat Shack being the most prominent. -Scott Article: 322326 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43227927.375A5E87@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. References: <432260C0.24EB7333@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 06:11:57 GMT "Scott W. Harvey" wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > > > > How about this one? Page 107 of the new MCM catalog # 50 , 2005/2006 > > http://www.mcminone.com Stock number 555-7120 $3.79 each, 1,527 in > > stock > > 10 watt 70 Volt line transformer will give you 500 ohms to 8 ohms at the > > 10 watt tap. > > Oh yeah, I know it's still available, and probably will be for a long > time, as there are thousands of these PA systems still in use. > > My lament is that there is no longer a retail store nearby where I can > just walk in and buy one. In my youth there were a dozen or more, Rat > Shack being the most prominent. > > -Scott The last time I had to buy one from Radio Shack the quality was so low that I just try to keep a few on hand and quit looking at RS for anything other than solder wick and tips for their cheap desoldering irons. Once in a great while I need a project box and can use something they stock, but even there, I have collected a couple hundred new surplus boxes that were left over from the old A.C. Neilson monitoring equipment that monitored how many hours a day your TV was on. They were a good deal, $2 for a couple banana boxes full. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322327 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: <1126335038.cda6b7bd1bf3db041ec7b98d0d3d768d@teranews> Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2005 23:50:19 -0700 hey scott - I have a brand new PA speaker, with the speaker part missing - so it has a transformer with taps, the back half of the aluminum housing, and a switch - you can have the transformer and switch for $10 including shipping, I don't think the housing will fit in a flat rate envelope, so I can pull it from the housing for you and put the housing into the recycling container (or you can have the housing too, just pay another $4 for a postage) "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:dftjq905g2@news3.newsguy.com... >I went to the 'shack yesterday looking for a 70 volt transformer used in PA >systems. This is a common part that they have had in their stores ever >since I first set foot in one in 1973. > > This transformer, when the proper taps are used, makes a dandy inexpensive > audio output transformer for boatanchors that only have 600 ohm output > terminals for audio. (most receivers built for the military fall into this > category). It's about 1/3 the price of what the "official" military > surplus transformer normally fetches from most outlets, and many web sites > devoted to these sets recommend it as a viable alternative. > > Well waddya know, they don't stock it anymore. It isn't even in their > catalog now, even though they still sell at least one PA amp that has a 70 > volt output. > > It has gone the way of many other components they no longer stock. I > guess that it had to go to make room for Cell Phones, Ipod accessories, > overpriced Monster Cables and other crap you can buy almost anywhere. > > What a bummer......... > > -Scott > > > > Article: 322328 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Al Last" Subject: FS - OLD RADIO TUBES 1920-1930S 7HRS LEFT Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:15:06 GMT Please see my EBay listing # 5805557636 3 ea etched EMPIRE 01A(scratched on base) 1 ea etched& ON GLASS KNIGHT 01A 2 ea etched& on glass PHILCO 01A 1 ea stamped on base&glass RCA 1F4 1 ea etched MAJESTIC G-56 2 ea etched CUNNINGHAM CX-345 1 ea etched RCA RADIOTRON 232 2 EA etched CUNNINGHAM C301A OK 1 EA etched CUNNINGHAM CX301A 1 EA etched RCA UX280 (the 0 is no clear) 1 ea etched HYGRADE 201A 2 ea RCA RADIOTRON UX201A Thanks for looking, Al Article: 322329 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Al Last" References: Subject: Re: FS - OLD RADIO TUBES 1920-1930S 7HRS LEFT Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 12:19:54 GMT Sorry- Should have been FA: "Al Last" wrote in message news:e7AUe.2107$JN5.1377@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... > Please see my EBay listing # 5805557636 > > 3 ea etched EMPIRE 01A(scratched on base) > 1 ea etched& ON GLASS KNIGHT 01A > 2 ea etched& on glass PHILCO 01A > 1 ea stamped on base&glass RCA 1F4 > 1 ea etched MAJESTIC G-56 > 2 ea etched CUNNINGHAM CX-345 > 1 ea etched RCA RADIOTRON 232 > 2 EA etched CUNNINGHAM C301A OK > 1 EA etched CUNNINGHAM CX301A > 1 EA etched RCA UX280 (the 0 is no clear) > 1 ea etched HYGRADE 201A > 2 ea RCA RADIOTRON UX201A > > Thanks for looking, Al > > > Article: 322330 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: FS - OLD RADIO TUBES 1920-1930S 7HRS LEFT Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:26:52 -0400 "Al Last" wrote in message news:KbAUe.2109$JN5.1579@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... > Sorry- Should have been FA: How refreshing!! Real RADIO tubes! Not a 33-volt tv tube in the lot. Pete Article: 322331 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: While ARF is being restored... Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 06:47:21 -0600 Message-ID: <18283-4322D5D9-436@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <9ag4i1520a1ktko6unsukllgq6g8ur91s5@4ax.com> There are much better sites out there while you wait. Then please go to them and enjoy yourself and never come back :-) Article: 322332 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Philco 90 Parts Help Needed Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 09:31:31 -0400 Some idiot removed most of the capacitor blocks in this set, replaceing them with terminal strips. If you have some to sell, I need seven in all, one wide and six narrow, or whatever you have. Thanks, Ken Article: 322333 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: Re: Almost made it safely... Message-ID: References: <1126216425.375087.27910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 13:54:37 GMT The UPS guy tripped and dropped the box on my doorstep. did he say UPS, I am sorry .....? Phil Article: 322334 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: While ARF is being restored... Message-ID: <8EBUe.74627$DW1.26974@fed1read06> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 09:58:25 -0400 Yeah, but are they really "restoring" it? Or is it gonna be another Mohawk toner and yellow cap restuff job???? Article: 322335 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: Health problems of old technicians? References: <_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 13:59:06 GMT Stewart Schooley wrote: > Recent articles in the news about cell phones and the thread about > the guy zapped with 2000 volts got me to wondering what this group > thinks about the effects on health from working on or using > electronic equipment. Not the danger from a shock, but the long term > effects on your general health. > > Stewart Interesting question... The last ten or so years of my career were spent as a forensic scientist for a large telecommunications company and the only thing I have specifically seen in the literature (relating to humans) is that microwave technicians were more prone to thyroid cancer. The only other *documented* biological effects of RF that I have seen published related to an increased growth rate in certain trees subjected to "RF" from Project Sanguine/Project ELF, the extremely low frequency submarine communications system located in Michigan's Upper Peninsula and Wisconsin. Although not documented (at least to my knowledge), we could worry about the fumes from soldering and the fact that some older vintage capacitors contained PCBs. I guess we won't worry about burns from blobs of hot solder flicked from the soldering gun... ;-) Article: 322336 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net> Subject: Re: Health problems of old technicians? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:15:59 GMT Seems to me the fact that there are NO stories, or at least very few of them, is evidence to me that this hobby/occupation can be very safe. It seems there are so many political groups out there who address "problems" and collect government funds to do their "good work" (covering every social problem from abortion to food ingredients to global warming) that if there is the slightest hint of danger with electronic gadgetry, they would be all over the media talking about it -- and they haven't. Sure, there have been a handful of issues over the years, which have resulted in some worthwhile improvements. Consider the polarized AC plug -- a lot of non-isolated radios had reception problems if plugged in backwards, not to mention the chassis being hot. Plastic cabinetry, power interlocks, and other such safety devices have worked to make products safer for both the consumer and the technician. On the other hand, some news stories have taken things way out of hand. Remember back in the 60's, I believe President Johnson made an issue of color TV's emitting radiation? Seems to me the problem had to do with several models, mainly RCA, that had the tendency to emit X-rays. Sure, TV sets can indeed emit X-rays, which is why the high voltage section is enclosed inside a shielded cage. However with the RCA sets, it was possible to operate the set with the X-ray shield removed. If some dingbat shadetree technician removed the shield and didn't bother to reinstall it, it would be possible to encounter physical damage >from X-radiation if you stood behind the set for say, 35 years. I don't know if the specific numbers are true, and the only real problem was that such sets should have an interlock which was indeed incorporated, but the media scare was such that some people stayed away from color TV's for many years because of the X-ray scare. The truth is, working in the electronics field can be very safe if you follow a few sensible rules that hopefully you've learned already. When working in high voltage areas, keep one hand behind your back. Discharge 2nd anodes before disconnecting. Use proper grounds for test equipment, and isolation transformers when applicable. Use safety glasses when cutting metal parts. Keep potentially unsafe items out of reach of kids and pets. Use chemicals with care -- use rubber gloves and avoid fumes. There have been a few stories of magnetic fields possibly causing cancer, >from either constant use of cell phones or living in proximity to power lines, but even these stories are debatable. There is certainly no mysterious cloud that will make you sick if you work on electronic products for a living. Again, use common sense, and you'll find this to be one of the safest professions out there. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message news:_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net... > Recent articles in the news about cell phones and the thread about the guy > zapped with 2000 volts got me to wondering what this group thinks about > the effects on health from working on or using electronic equipment. Not > the danger from a shock, but the long term effects on your general health. > > Stewart Article: 322337 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" References: Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:51:04 GMT Gotta agree with you. I called the local RS to see if they carry speaker grille cloth. Nope. Guess they only sell cell phones, and other equally useless junk these days. Haven't even been in a RS for years....no reason to. Steve Article: 322338 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <4YNRe.11553$p%3.45671@typhoon.sonic.net> <1126227343.964351.115480@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1126294986.618353.244610@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Global warming? More flooded radios, eh? But people are more important. Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:51:08 GMT "xrongor" wrote in message news:dftcer$6cqa$1@news3.infoave.net... > famous last words of those who think we cannot 'change' the world: > > 'we can never kill all those buffalo (wolf,tiger,insert animal here)' > 'hey what happened to the hollywood sign. i cant see it any more from > downtown' > 'gee look at that pretty mushroom cloud' > > randy Mushrooms come from cans and I've only seen a cloud around that when I burned a pizza Article: 322339 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1126355965.604088.177420@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: How to post to a forum.... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:54:13 GMT PS Etiquette was invented to excuse women for being gassy. It's garbage. "Steven" wrote in message news:1126355965.604088.177420@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > That explains it. Flash is bad netiquette itself. Garbage content and > you usually can't proceed without it as the person who designed it was > not thoughtful enough to provide a non-Flash or low graphics page. > Article: 322340 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1126216425.375087.27910@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Almost made it safely... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:00:08 GMT "philsvintageradios" wrote in message news:h8p5i153jum025859v71bkl2bf309c7thd@4ax.com... > > The UPS guy tripped and dropped the box on my doorstep. > > > did he say UPS, I am sorry .....? > > Phil Think he muttered one of the Seven Things You Can't Say On Television Article: 322341 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Health problems of old technicians? References: <_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net> Message-ID: <_FCUe.3712$nq.619@lakeread05> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 11:08:38 -0400 Speaking of solder fumes, I remember loving the smell of the rosen when undoing old solder joints. New solder doesn't smell that good, or my receptors are burned. Ken Carter-K8VT wrote: > Stewart Schooley wrote: > >> Recent articles in the news about cell phones and the thread about >> the guy zapped with 2000 volts got me to wondering what this group >> thinks about the effects on health from working on or using >> electronic equipment. Not the danger from a shock, but the long term >> effects on your general health. >> >> Stewart > > > Interesting question... > > The last ten or so years of my career were spent as a forensic scientist > for a large telecommunications company and the only thing I have > specifically seen in the literature (relating to humans) is that > microwave technicians were more prone to thyroid cancer. > > The only other *documented* biological effects of RF that I have seen > published related to an increased growth rate in certain trees subjected > to "RF" from Project Sanguine/Project ELF, the extremely low frequency > submarine communications system located in Michigan's Upper Peninsula > and Wisconsin. > > Although not documented (at least to my knowledge), we could worry about > the fumes from soldering and the fact that some older vintage capacitors > contained PCBs. > > I guess we won't worry about burns from blobs of hot solder flicked from > the soldering gun... ;-) Article: 322342 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <%ZhUe.71423$3S5.35375@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1aGdnQO6LY4J1L_eRVn-tQ@comcast.com> Subject: Re: 1939 Silvetone model 3127 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:11:47 GMT I'm sorry, I followed the URL backwards to it's domain roots yet I cannot get anything but DNS errors until the root, which tells me it's only a placeholder and what program powers, and try inserting all that stuff I took out. "jim menning" wrote in message news:nVsUe.27902$mb4.25116@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > > "Jim King" <62-gt-hawk@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:qaidnYAhlJF-b7zeRVn-qg@comcast.com... > " I don't know if this radio is US or Canadian. I got it out of an estate > and > redid it. It was the most difficult radio I ever had to align. " > > Can anyone help Jim with this? Here are his pictures: > > http://show.imagehosting.us/show/654290/0/nouser_654/T0_-1_654290.jpg > > http://show.imagehosting.us/show/654293/0/nouser_654/T0_-1_654293.jpg > > http://show.imagehosting.us/show/654302/0/nouser_654/T0_-1_654302.jpg > > Article: 322343 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: <0LCUe.769$wR4.123821@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:14:04 GMT My RS franchise had most everything they ever sold and I've never seen it in 27 years. Have you been hiding from the draft board? "Steve" wrote in message news:spCUe.13013$p%3.54551@typhoon.sonic.net... > Gotta agree with you. I called the local RS to see if they carry > speaker grille cloth. Nope. Guess they only sell cell phones, and > other equally useless junk these days. Haven't even been in a RS > for years....no reason to. > > Steve > > Article: 322344 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <%ZhUe.71423$3S5.35375@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1aGdnQO6LY4J1L_eRVn-tQ@comcast.com> Subject: Re: 1939 Silvetone model 3127 Message-ID: <7UCUe.48345$32.18586@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:23:47 GMT "jim menning" wrote in message news:nVsUe.27902$mb4.25116@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > > "Jim King" <62-gt-hawk@comcast.net> wrote in message > news:qaidnYAhlJF-b7zeRVn-qg@comcast.com... > " I don't know if this radio is US or Canadian. I got it out of an estate > and > redid it. It was the most difficult radio I ever had to align. " > > Can anyone help Jim with this? Here are his pictures: > > http://show.imagehosting.us/show/654290/0/nouser_654/T0_-1_654290.jpg > > http://show.imagehosting.us/show/654293/0/nouser_654/T0_-1_654293.jpg > > http://show.imagehosting.us/show/654302/0/nouser_654/T0_-1_654302.jpg > > Due to problems with that host, I've also placed the pictures on the binaries. news:alt.binary.pictures.radio Article: 322345 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <%ZhUe.71423$3S5.35375@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1aGdnQO6LY4J1L_eRVn-tQ@comcast.com> <7UCUe.48345$32.18586@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: 1939 Silvetone model 3127 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:32:09 GMT "jim menning" wrote in message news:7UCUe.48345$32.18586@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > Due to problems with that host, I've also placed the pictures on the > binaries. > > news:alt.binary.pictures.radio > > I guess I shouldn't have copied that link from another thread (Now here's my bench). Let's try: news:alt.binaries.pictures.radio Article: 322346 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net> Subject: Re: Health problems of old technicians? Message-ID: <2pDUe.21266$sw6.114@fed1read05> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:58:49 -0700 So, if the color TV was going to give me x-rays, why did my Aunt have me sit so close to the TV when I was a kid. In fact she always had me watch TV in the dark. Come to thing about it,,,, she only had me sit close when here boyfriend was helping her baby sit...... hmmm... Now that I look back,,, I think something might have been going on!!!!!!!!!! ;) bob in phx "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:zUBUe.8146$4P5.6923@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Seems to me the fact that there are NO stories, or at least very few of > them, is evidence to me that this hobby/occupation can be very safe. > > It seems there are so many political groups out there who address > "problems" and collect government funds to do their "good work" (covering > every social problem from abortion to food ingredients to global warming) > that if there is the slightest hint of danger with electronic gadgetry, > they would be all over the media talking about it -- and they haven't. > > Sure, there have been a handful of issues over the years, which have > resulted in some worthwhile improvements. Consider the polarized AC > plug -- a lot of non-isolated radios had reception problems if plugged in > backwards, not to mention the chassis being hot. Plastic cabinetry, power > interlocks, and other such safety devices have worked to make products > safer for both the consumer and the technician. On the other hand, some > news stories have taken things way out of hand. Remember back in the > 60's, I believe President Johnson made an issue of color TV's emitting > radiation? Seems to me the problem had to do with several models, mainly > RCA, that had the tendency to emit X-rays. Sure, TV sets can indeed emit > X-rays, which is why the high voltage section is enclosed inside a > shielded cage. However with the RCA sets, it was possible to operate the > set with the X-ray shield removed. If some dingbat shadetree technician > removed the shield and didn't bother to reinstall it, it would be possible > to encounter physical damage from X-radiation if you stood behind the set > for say, 35 years. I don't know if the specific numbers are true, and the > only real problem was that such sets should have an interlock which was > indeed incorporated, but the media scare was such that some people stayed > away from color TV's for many years because of the X-ray scare. > > The truth is, working in the electronics field can be very safe if you > follow a few sensible rules that hopefully you've learned already. When > working in high voltage areas, keep one hand behind your back. Discharge > 2nd anodes before disconnecting. Use proper grounds for test equipment, > and isolation transformers when applicable. Use safety glasses when > cutting metal parts. Keep potentially unsafe items out of reach of kids > and pets. Use chemicals with care -- use rubber gloves and avoid fumes. > > There have been a few stories of magnetic fields possibly causing cancer, > from either constant use of cell phones or living in proximity to power > lines, but even these stories are debatable. There is certainly no > mysterious cloud that will make you sick if you work on electronic > products for a living. Again, use common sense, and you'll find this to > be one of the safest professions out there. > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message > news:_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net... >> Recent articles in the news about cell phones and the thread about the >> guy zapped with 2000 volts got me to wondering what this group thinks >> about the effects on health from working on or using electronic >> equipment. Not the danger from a shock, but the long term effects on your >> general health. >> >> Stewart > > Article: 322347 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net> <2pDUe.21266$sw6.114@fed1read05> Subject: Re: Health problems of old technicians? Message-ID: <8NDUe.773$wR4.125141@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:24:36 GMT Was the sound really loud also? "Bob in Phx" wrote in message news:2pDUe.21266$sw6.114@fed1read05... > So, if the color TV was going to give me x-rays, why did my Aunt have me sit > so close to the TV when I was a kid. In fact she always had me watch TV in > the dark. Come to thing about it,,,, she only had me sit close when here > boyfriend was helping her baby sit...... hmmm... Now that I look back,,, I > think something might have been going on!!!!!!!!!! > > ;) > > bob in phx > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:zUBUe.8146$4P5.6923@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > > Seems to me the fact that there are NO stories, or at least very few of > > them, is evidence to me that this hobby/occupation can be very safe. > > > > It seems there are so many political groups out there who address > > "problems" and collect government funds to do their "good work" (covering > > every social problem from abortion to food ingredients to global warming) > > that if there is the slightest hint of danger with electronic gadgetry, > > they would be all over the media talking about it -- and they haven't. > > > > Sure, there have been a handful of issues over the years, which have > > resulted in some worthwhile improvements. Consider the polarized AC > > plug -- a lot of non-isolated radios had reception problems if plugged in > > backwards, not to mention the chassis being hot. Plastic cabinetry, power > > interlocks, and other such safety devices have worked to make products > > safer for both the consumer and the technician. On the other hand, some > > news stories have taken things way out of hand. Remember back in the > > 60's, I believe President Johnson made an issue of color TV's emitting > > radiation? Seems to me the problem had to do with several models, mainly > > RCA, that had the tendency to emit X-rays. Sure, TV sets can indeed emit > > X-rays, which is why the high voltage section is enclosed inside a > > shielded cage. However with the RCA sets, it was possible to operate the > > set with the X-ray shield removed. If some dingbat shadetree technician > > removed the shield and didn't bother to reinstall it, it would be possible > > to encounter physical damage from X-radiation if you stood behind the set > > for say, 35 years. I don't know if the specific numbers are true, and the > > only real problem was that such sets should have an interlock which was > > indeed incorporated, but the media scare was such that some people stayed > > away from color TV's for many years because of the X-ray scare. > > > > The truth is, working in the electronics field can be very safe if you > > follow a few sensible rules that hopefully you've learned already. When > > working in high voltage areas, keep one hand behind your back. Discharge > > 2nd anodes before disconnecting. Use proper grounds for test equipment, > > and isolation transformers when applicable. Use safety glasses when > > cutting metal parts. Keep potentially unsafe items out of reach of kids > > and pets. Use chemicals with care -- use rubber gloves and avoid fumes. > > > > There have been a few stories of magnetic fields possibly causing cancer, > > from either constant use of cell phones or living in proximity to power > > lines, but even these stories are debatable. There is certainly no > > mysterious cloud that will make you sick if you work on electronic > > products for a living. Again, use common sense, and you'll find this to > > be one of the safest professions out there. > > > > > > -- > > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > > > "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message > > news:_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net... > >> Recent articles in the news about cell phones and the thread about the > >> guy zapped with 2000 volts got me to wondering what this group thinks > >> about the effects on health from working on or using electronic > >> equipment. Not the danger from a shock, but the long term effects on your > >> general health. > >> > >> Stewart > > > > > > Article: 322348 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1126358997.000490.307520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: <0QDUe.774$wR4.125221@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:27:40 GMT "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:E7SdnZ2dnZ25baawnZ2dnbufvt6dnZ2dRVn-y52dnZ0@comcast.com... > I would not be so quick to condemn RS. My distaste with the RS is with its > employees. You can't expect to find knowledgable sales people for -- what? > $10 an hour? > > "There was a time" -- not that long ago -- when Radio Shack stores had a > decent selection of electronic components, and even oddball stuff (such as > Compact Cassette repair kits). Those days are passing. I would guess that > the demand for parts and components is no longer great enough to justify > stocking them, regardless of how cheaply RS buys them from China. > > But the days when you could walk into a real electronics-supply store (such > as Radio-Electric Service in Bal'mer) are long, LONG gone. I suppose we > should be grateful we have lots of well-stocked electronic distributors with > searchable on-line catalogs. Who makes $10/hour at RS? Who makes $10/hr here at all? Oops...meth lab owner. Article: 322349 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: Health problems of old technicians? References: <_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net> <1126361155.224689.307120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <%VDUe.536$Aa1.420@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:34:03 GMT Steven wrote: > Carter-K8VT wrote: > > (My friend, the family is not happy with your job fixing our beloved > father's Philco...I'm afraid we must let you go) > > (gunshots) > Uh, Steven, are you all right? Don't know your "friend" Don't know your family Never fixed a Philco for your father (who I don't know, either) Absolutely not a clue what you are talking about. Are you sure you're OK? Article: 322350 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Now here's MY bench (abpr) References: <431e376f$1_14@Output.100ProofNews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 17:31:34 GMT Steve J wrote: > Here is a HTML link to your workbench photo I posted for you > for those that can't get to it on abpr: > http://www.stevenjohnson.com/web-pics/workbench-ron_h.jpg > Thanks Steve, I guess I missed the original posting. Ron Article: 322351 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: Majestic Owners: 53 Tubes? References: <831-431DB840-864@storefull-3157.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:33:30 -0400 Jim Berg wrote: > Sounds like the standard #53 tube with 2 1/2 volt filament, and the box > is probably worth more than the tube. Some of the Majestic tubes had the > same numbers as regular ones, but had a suffix letters, and if I > remember correctly they had 6 volt filaments rather than the 2 1/2 on > normal tubes, and some (all?) had spray shield. > Majestic (and others) made some of the 50 series tubes with variations. The "S" sufix was a spray shield. The "A" suffix on some tubes (57AS, 58AS, 56A) had 6.3 volt heaters. The 57AS and 58AS were 400ma, the 56A was 300ma. The 85AS was identical with the 85, except for being spray shielded with the shield connected to the cathode. (all spray shielding was connected to cathode pin). Raytheon made replacements for these tubes. The Majestic 59A was a directly heated cathode version of the 59. If the set was wired so pin 6 of the socket was connected to the heater midtap either tube (59 or 59A) could be used. Perhaps the 59A was cheaper to build, otherwise I don't know why the variation. (filament current was the same?). Article: 322352 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ron H" References: <431e376f$1_14@Output.100ProofNews.com> Subject: Re: Now here's MY bench (abpr) Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 13:56:21 -0500 Message-ID: <43232719$1_11@Output.100ProofNews.com> THANKS STEVE! I'll still try to figure out how to do the web page thing with SBC...if I can ever actually talk to them... K3PID Ron H. x-- 100 Proof News - http://www.100ProofNews.com x-- 30+ Days Binary Retention with High Completion x-- Access to over 1.9 Terabytes per Day - $8.95/Month x-- UNLIMITED DOWNLOAD Article: 322353 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Joe Farkas Subject: Re: Pilot Radio, Models X1452, -1453 Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 15:05:12 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1126239995.776359.138100@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 8 Sep 2005 21:26:35 -0700, "AuroraOldRadios" wrote: >Compare it to the RCA 15BT a few pages away (RCA 12-24). I don't know >if the RCA is a portable, but the same design issues are there- how to >get the 1A7G to oscillate at higher frequencies with iffy B+ supply and >iffy A+. The RCA also has a tuned RF stage and is supposed to work the >shortwave freqs 5.9-18.3 mc. I confirmed with digital radio nearby that the oscillator is 262 ABOVE the tuned frequency, AM and SW. So 262 khz IF is correct. Article: 322354 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Hagman" Subject: Re: Final Kutztown Roll Call Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:09:53 -0400 Message-ID: <11i6fcgmsupfb43@corp.supernews.com> References: <1126266605.273945.20840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11i48v5k8hhc04a@corp.supernews.com> "Keith Park" wrote in message news:rvrUe.66844$EX.23828@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > . Basically because > the basement is near full Keith- WHEN are you gonna get a table? Go into the basement and tell me you're gonna get to all of those someday. Why not sell some and buy one for every two sold, for example. John H. Article: 322355 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4323593D.4829FE88@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. References: <1126358997.000490.307520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:09:47 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: > > I would not be so quick to condemn RS. My distaste with the RS is with its > employees. You can't expect to find knowledgable sales people for -- what? > $10 an hour? How can stating that you can not buy what you need there anymore be construed into "condemn RS"? > "There was a time" -- not that long ago -- when Radio Shack stores had a > decent selection of electronic components, and even oddball stuff (such as > Compact Cassette repair kits). Those days are passing. I would guess that > the demand for parts and components is no longer great enough to justify > stocking them, regardless of how cheaply RS buys them from China. What I needed from them has been gone for at least 15 years. I would classify that as a long time. > But the days when you could walk into a real electronics-supply store (such > as Radio-Electric Service in Bal'mer) are long, LONG gone. I suppose we > should be grateful we have lots of well-stocked electronic distributors with > searchable on-line catalogs. Yes, and people used to have manners. They didn't throw their trash everywhere. They curse in public and they drive like their vehicles were guided missiles out to destroy anything in their way. What was your point? I was buying parts by mail from Allied and Newark long before I had an account at the local parts house. Even then, if it wasn't a common radio or TV part that I needed I had to wait for them to order it. Special orders went to corporate on Friday evening, unless they filled the entire sheet by Wednesday. It could take two to four weeks, or I could mail order it for less and have it in about a week. The first IC sockets that I ordered took three MONTHS to arrive. The only thing the local store had going for it was that it was easy to open a business account with them to pick up tubes and resistors. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322356 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <432359D7.D14D6CFA@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Health problems of old technicians? References: <_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net> <1_Sdnd0tBslIib7eRVn-1Q@giganews.com> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:12:20 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: > > Handling solder is a different matter. People who regularly handle solder > with bare hands should wash their hands thoroughly, especially before > ingesting that SubWay foot-long... Eating a foot long sub is more hazardous to your health than handling solder. All the people who soldered at Microdyne were tested for lead, and NONE was ever found in any blood samples. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322357 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rob Mills" References: Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 17:26:56 -0500 Don't know if anyone here is interested but they have all their bulk coax cable on close out. It's not advertised or mentioned on the internet. I paid .24 a foot for RG8U-M. RM~ Article: 322358 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Mikkel Breiler Subject: Re: OT Time travel Message-ID: References: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 00:53:52 +0200 " Uncle Peter" wrote: > I think I have perfected it. Just a small request from me. Pick me up a sports almanac. Anyone will do. -Mikkel Article: 322359 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Health problems of old technicians? References: <_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:06:28 GMT I agree with Ken, nothing like the smell from an old solder joint Ahhh(sniff). Having a hobby that you enjoy is better for you than anything, especially when you retire and beats sitting in front of the TV. Mark Oppat wrote: > I wonder about inhaling lead from solder...??? > > Mark Oppat > > > "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message > news:_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net... > >>Recent articles in the news about cell phones and the thread about the >>guy zapped with 2000 volts got me to wondering what this group thinks >>about the effects on health from working on or using electronic >>equipment. Not the danger from a shock, but the long term effects on >>your general health. >> >>Stewart >> > > > > Article: 322360 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. References: <1126358997.000490.307520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <0QDUe.774$wR4.125221@monger.newsread.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:07:50 GMT Steven Dinius_ wrote: > "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message > news:E7SdnZ2dnZ25baawnZ2dnbufvt6dnZ2dRVn-y52dnZ0@comcast.com... > >>I would not be so quick to condemn RS. My distaste with the RS is with its >>employees. You can't expect to find knowledgable sales people for -- what? >>$10 an hour? >> >>"There was a time" -- not that long ago -- when Radio Shack stores had a >>decent selection of electronic components, and even oddball stuff (such as >>Compact Cassette repair kits). Those days are passing. I would guess that >>the demand for parts and components is no longer great enough to justify >>stocking them, regardless of how cheaply RS buys them from China. >> >>But the days when you could walk into a real electronics-supply store > > (such > >>as Radio-Electric Service in Bal'mer) are long, LONG gone. I suppose we >>should be grateful we have lots of well-stocked electronic distributors > > with > >>searchable on-line catalogs. > > > Who makes $10/hour at RS? > > > > Who makes $10/hr here at all? > > Oops...meth lab owner. > > $18/hr here. CAD technician-Designer level -- Not meth lab owner. Bobby Article: 322361 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4323685A.DE6CB9C0@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Health problems of old technicians? References: <_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:14:20 GMT Mark Oppat wrote: > > I wonder about inhaling lead from solder...??? > > Mark Oppat You don't get solder hot enough to boil the lead out of the alloy. The smoke is all rosin and the salts from the chemical reaction that cleans the metal so the solder will wet and flow. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322362 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1126358997.000490.307520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <0QDUe.774$wR4.125221@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:40:36 GMT Not in Malheur County (sigh) and disappearing quikly in Boise. "Robert Sherrod" wrote in message news:aHJUe.322789$_o.299244@attbi_s71... > > > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message > > news:E7SdnZ2dnZ25baawnZ2dnbufvt6dnZ2dRVn-y52dnZ0@comcast.com... > > > >>I would not be so quick to condemn RS. My distaste with the RS is with its > >>employees. You can't expect to find knowledgable sales people for -- what? > >>$10 an hour? > >> > >>"There was a time" -- not that long ago -- when Radio Shack stores had a > >>decent selection of electronic components, and even oddball stuff (such as > >>Compact Cassette repair kits). Those days are passing. I would guess that > >>the demand for parts and components is no longer great enough to justify > >>stocking them, regardless of how cheaply RS buys them from China. > >> > >>But the days when you could walk into a real electronics-supply store > > > > (such > > > >>as Radio-Electric Service in Bal'mer) are long, LONG gone. I suppose we > >>should be grateful we have lots of well-stocked electronic distributors > > > > with > > > >>searchable on-line catalogs. > > > > > > Who makes $10/hour at RS? > > > > > > > > Who makes $10/hr here at all? > > > > Oops...meth lab owner. > > > > > $18/hr here. CAD technician-Designer level -- Not meth lab owner. > > Bobby Article: 322363 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net> Subject: Re: Health problems of old technicians? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:43:17 -0400 "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:o9CdnX44d9xgxL7eRVn-vw@comcast.com... > I wonder about inhaling lead from solder...??? > > Mark Oppat > > Some of the organic fluxes are unhealthy to inhale. They make bench fume extractors for soldering. No lead is released into the air when soldering. Article: 322364 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net> <1_Sdnd0tBslIib7eRVn-1Q@giganews.com> <432359D7.D14D6CFA@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Health problems of old technicians? Message-ID: <4dKUe.905$wR4.132992@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:44:00 GMT Line assembly of computer boards is apparently hazardous, according to a friend of my brother who was suing a local company over loss of reproductive ability. The chemicals were alledged. Don't know how she did and it was a long time ago. "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:432359D7.D14D6CFA@earthlink.net... > William Sommerwerck wrote: > > > > Handling solder is a different matter. People who regularly handle solder > > with bare hands should wash their hands thoroughly, especially before > > ingesting that SubWay foot-long... > > > Eating a foot long sub is more hazardous to your health than handling > solder. All the people who soldered at Microdyne were tested for lead, > and NONE was ever found in any blood samples. > > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 322365 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: trans oceanic b600 Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 16:54:03 -0700 Message-ID: <2423-4323721B-339@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> References: >From Phil: >An AC/DC radio does not have a power >transformer to supply different voltages >to the tube filaments (low voltage) and to >the B+ circuitry (high voltage). There were a few transformerless, series-string radios that used a voltage doubler for the B+ supply, which made them AC only. Bill(oc) Article: 322366 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Sparky" References: Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 00:47:33 GMT "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:dftjq905g2@news3.newsguy.com... > I went to the 'shack yesterday looking for a 70 volt transformer used in > PA systems. This is a common part that they have had in their stores > ever since I first set foot in one in 1973. There is no more Radio Shack in Canada. It has been renamed The Source by Circuit city. That circuit city is involved makes it even less desireable than when it was Radio Shack. > > This transformer, when the proper taps are used, makes a dandy > inexpensive audio output transformer for boatanchors that only have 600 > ohm output terminals for audio. (most receivers built for the military > fall into this category). It's about 1/3 the price of what the > "official" military surplus transformer normally fetches from most > outlets, and many web sites devoted to these sets recommend it as a > viable alternative. > > Well waddya know, they don't stock it anymore. It isn't even in their > catalog now, even though they still sell at least one PA amp that has a > 70 volt output. > > It has gone the way of many other components they no longer stock. I > guess that it had to go to make room for Cell Phones, Ipod accessories, > overpriced Monster Cables and other crap you can buy almost anywhere. > > What a bummer......... > > -Scott > > > > Article: 322367 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: <9iLUe.909$wR4.133383@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 00:57:41 GMT "Sparky" wrote in message news:F8LUe.1665$Qq1.230052@newshog.newsread.com... > There is no more Radio Shack in Canada. It has been renamed The Source by > Circuit city. > > That circuit city is involved makes it even less desireable than when it was > Radio Shack. The Source was always the NBC Radio Network's rock music service to me. Article: 322368 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Health problems of old technicians? Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:52:18 -0600 Message-ID: <25949-43237FC2-154@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <4dKUe.905$wR4.132992@monger.newsread.com> youalwayshavesomestupidnontruestoryabouteverythingevery5minutes Article: 322369 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" References: <0LCUe.769$wR4.123821@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 01:25:26 GMT They did carry a variety of speaker cloth about 10 years ago. I just ran out of it, and the package said it was a RS product. Steve Steven Dinius <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in message news:0LCUe.769$wR4.123821@monger.newsread.com... > My RS franchise had most everything they ever sold and I've never seen it in > 27 years. Have you been hiding from the draft board? > > "Steve" wrote in message > news:spCUe.13013$p%3.54551@typhoon.sonic.net... > > Gotta agree with you. I called the local RS to see if they carry > > speaker grille cloth. Nope. Guess they only sell cell phones, and > > other equally useless junk these days. Haven't even been in a RS > > for years....no reason to. > > > > Steve > > > > > > Article: 322370 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: <5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:34:05 -0700 The real fun is Fry's electronics (a southwest / west coast company) that has every single NTE product in two isles... The problem is that the isles are always 80% empty (no joke, I did a count on two of the fullest racks!!!). The folks who run that section, never, never stock it.... its worthless!!!! and frustrating as they have the space and just don't use it!! Here in phx, there is only one electronics store left (that's any good), its circuit specialists. Lucky for me its in my suburb.... bob in phx (mesa az really, but who cares!!) "Sparky" wrote in message news:F8LUe.1665$Qq1.230052@newshog.newsread.com... > > "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message > news:dftjq905g2@news3.newsguy.com... >> I went to the 'shack yesterday looking for a 70 volt transformer used in >> PA systems. This is a common part that they have had in their stores >> ever since I first set foot in one in 1973. > > > > > > > > > There is no more Radio Shack in Canada. It has been renamed The Source > by > Circuit city. > > That circuit city is involved makes it even less desireable than when it > was > Radio Shack. > > > > > > >> >> This transformer, when the proper taps are used, makes a dandy >> inexpensive audio output transformer for boatanchors that only have 600 >> ohm output terminals for audio. (most receivers built for the military >> fall into this category). It's about 1/3 the price of what the >> "official" military surplus transformer normally fetches from most >> outlets, and many web sites devoted to these sets recommend it as a >> viable alternative. >> >> Well waddya know, they don't stock it anymore. It isn't even in their >> catalog now, even though they still sell at least one PA amp that has a >> 70 volt output. >> >> It has gone the way of many other components they no longer stock. I >> guess that it had to go to make room for Cell Phones, Ipod accessories, >> overpriced Monster Cables and other crap you can buy almost anywhere. >> >> What a bummer......... >> >> -Scott >> >> >> >> > > Article: 322371 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Mikkel Breiler Subject: Re: Passing on PayPal Fees? Message-ID: References: <8MCdnX88D6DoQ1bfRVn-hA@comcast.com> <11cooflc96cdd60@corp.supernews.com> <9q2dnTSTtNVhMpDeRVn-1w@comcast.com> Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 03:48:34 +0200 "Phil B" wrote: >"-ex-" wrote in message >news:f1e9b$430e8220$4232bde3$11694@COQUI.NET... >> Can't prove it...but just casual browsing thru categories makes me >click >> on to items that appear to be going cheap. And there it is in BIG >CAPS. >> I DON'T TAKE PAYPAL. >> I'm not terribly opposed to writing a check or standing in line for a >> Money Order but the "I DON'T TAKE PAYPAL" is also usually laced with >> other rant innuendo that imply that the seller may be difficult to >deal >> with should a problem arise. >> With so many options on ebay its easy to skip over these people >wearing >> large chips on their shoulder. > >I feel the same way when I see the "I DON'T TAKE PAYPAL" banner. It >raises the warning flags. To me it translates to "watch out, this guy >may be trouble" or "watch out, this guy is ignorant". I bought a piece >of test equipment from a guy who said "money orders only". I sent my MO >off in the mail and I remember thinking "bye, bye" as I dropped it in >the box. Fortunately I received the item in good shape, but it could >have turned the other way. Then I would only have ebay to maybe help me. >Ebay AND PayPal would have been a better combination. I have no trouble with the I-Dont-Do-Paypal-people, I do not decide at that point wether I want to win the item. Living in Denmark and collecting mostly from the US, Germany andsometimes also the UK I have to find awyas of payment that makes economic sense. Many times I have cursed PayPal for not working for me. I have VISA and the verification digits do not come through on our balance reports here in Denmark. On the other hand I could go into my bank and have them call the card issuer in Denmark, the ones who actually physically makes the plastic card, and runs the transactions on behalf of all VISA customers in Denmark and get the digits from them through my bank by showing up in person with a photo ID on me. The contract I agreed to online to open a PayPal account prohibits me from discussing PayPal with any bank. So I cannot get it verified the normal way. I ran into this dead end in july of 2002. Only a few weeks ago did I learn from my bank that all I had to do was come in a talk with them, have them make the call and get the digits I needed. Duh! Of course now PayPal do not accept VISA for making a verified account. But I saw that American Express will do, so I have applied for one. This process takes two weeks to get the card and one or two more to get an activation code. Meanwhile the auctions that prompted me to actually seek other ways of verifying my Paypal account have been many: Every time I saw something my current sending limit would not lte me have I had to face this other means of verification that PayPal once offered me: Fax a copy of my passport or driver's license to them. Firstly, it is illegal at least for us danes to make any copies of our passports. Secondly anyone who are authorised to receive a copy of it for identification purposes are - yes you guessed it - danish officials in Denmark or embassys around the globe, noone else. Secondly the same goes for the drver's licences I guess, but I don't know, I never bought one - it is expensive and I have never had a car either. Much less any reason to buy one or get a driver's license eccpet for that 1-2 times a year where a car yould be really nice to beat the rain, cold or go pick up a heavy thing I am buying (and I never can justify buying a driver's license and a car to go do that once a year. The insurrance and road/weight taxes alone are more costly than any fees for transport I'll ever pay in the same timespan). So I always look for other means of payment. BidPay is a good alternative, I the buyer pay the fees and the seller gets all the money. This has won a few americans over who were used to seeing the world through PayPal colored glasses..... I mean even if they had inflated their prices to allow for buyers using PayPal I would pay the bid + shipping and pay money fees for them. Ultimately the feedback section, and the sellers response to my available payment methods are the ones that make me decide to enter bidding or not. Many times I secured the right to bid on a domestic auction in the US, UK or Germany without ever getting it as I see the price go beyond what I want to pay, knowing there are fees to cover. Using money orders are getting more difficult here. No longer can I have a checkque made out to the seller as the post office here requires the same bankign info that the bank does. I pay $16 for a money order and can't use the US accounting number and bank routing numbers as they do not fit the forms where I have to write the IBAN and SWIFT/BIC codes of the receiver. I can use those same details to make an online payment over my bank at $22. Europeans are embracing PayPal so I have less choices as many want to do Paypal over any other. Still many prefer bank to bank transfers so I am good for Europe. BidPay remains the current only choice for me for US and Canada. For me there are so many variables to winning an auction I almost want to be an american. Most stuff I collect is in the US. Prices are more reasonable because of the large base of items. But the ways to deal with a seller in the us, and an auction site and a payment system made 100% for americans only then tweaked a little for international use really is a pain. >By the way. As an internet seller (not ebay), I have never had a single >problem with PayPal out of many hundreds of sales. I accept confirmed >and unconfirmed addresses and international orders. The payments are >immediate and I ship the next day. I have a 100% success rate with >PayPal. The 3% fee is well worth it for customer convenience and good >customer relations. I don't mind paying $4.95 to get an easy way to send money to the seller, and it doesn't hurt me the least that I sometimes have to pay that on top of a price that was initially set to handle the PayPal fees. I can't demand that sellers always allow me to bid, also they cannot demand that I pay through some means that are impossible for me to use properly. Finally a seller who doesn't do PayPal may simply have learned the hard way that PayPal is not for them. Perhaps they or someone they know had an incident with PayPal which left them with an experience they want to prevent from happening again. >I bought into a merchant account a while back and haven't integrated it >into my web site yet due to the programming effort involved and short >supply of time. I am having second thoughts. With this account, I would >just break even with PayPal and maybe do a little better. The standard >line is that my sales would be boosted by accepting credit cards >directly, but I'm not so sure about that. PayPal has been a success >story for me, and I think PayPal is gaining public acceptance and trust. >The merchant account sellers are beginning to feel the pinch. If you have the good I need and you process my VISA right away I won't mind paying the fees if I did not have to beg in emails to have seler allow me to bid. Becuase most of the stuff I coolect are obscure and rare outside of the us many sellers dont' think to include them, and if they mainly have those things for sale foreign sales is all new to them, and if I catch them in a busy week they will not go out of their way to learn how to send internationally, makes sure the item they sell conform to current laws, dimensions of the pakcage are correct, forms correctly filled out and waiting extra long time to hear if the package made it. People used to doing business domestically for a long time and being in a good routine are more likely to accept a foreigner bidding as 1) it either becomes to expensive and they won't have to think any more of it. or 2) buyer might just top all other doemstic bidders and give them extra money. Also several sellers get allow foreign bidders from the get go once they realise how starved foreigners can be for some items. PayPal as a concept is a good ting for all. it just is very unfortunate that eBay and PayPal both are companies of the internet age, without the honors and servicability of convntional auction sites and bank systems. Their rules for engaging in their systems would look a little different if they were 50 years old and oly recently got into doing online businesses. Instead of taking old style dealign to the net, they helped invent how we buy online. To me eBay is like a biiiiig global store with all kinds of sales people all around the globe. All of them have their quirks. Some of whom don't know what they sell. Some are very nice and some are not. And on the whole I have been positive about the auction site, the sellers, the payments systems once I got the hang of it. There will be room for improvement in most anything, and rotten apples too. Just like in the real world. -Mikkel Article: 322372 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Come chat if your online From: Larry References: <1126394752.991280.210270@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:05:57 -0400 "Radio-Years" wrote in news:1126394752.991280.210270@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > come to the chat room ,if you are online > > What's in the applet? Any forced spam, spyware, etc? applet codebase="http://client0.sigmachat.com/current/" code="Client.class" archive="scclient_en.zip" width=600 height=400 MAYSCRIPT> -- Larry Article: 322373 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Health problems of old technicians? From: Larry References: <_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:30:21 -0400 Stewart Schooley wrote in news:_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn- iA@bright.net: > Recent articles in the news about cell phones and the thread about the > guy zapped with 2000 volts got me to wondering what this group thinks > about the effects on health from working on or using electronic > equipment. Not the danger from a shock, but the long term effects on > your general health. > > Stewart > > I've been on ham radio, running a lot of high power, since 1957. I was 11. For many years, lots of hams will remember the call WB4THE from my multikilowatt (ERP) 2 meter mobiles with 650 watt output (twin 4CX250 tubes) tranmitters into stacked 4-element Cushcrafts, fully rotateable, in the luggage rack of my VW Kombi camper vans. The beam's about 8 db gain with 3 db more because there were 2 of them. Deduct a db to make it fair and you have 10 db above 650W or 6500W ERP. From mountain tops throughout the South, I've talked 500 miles on 2m SSB, FM, etc. Great fun. That mobile would light a flourescent tube in your hand at about 100 ft from the business end of the beams. It only drew about 100A at 13V..(c; I also have run for many years high-powered HF mobiles from "Texas Bug Catcher" huge loaded whips fed from my souped-up Tentec Hercules II 12V kilowatt linear. It, too, puts out an honest 600-650 watts of carrier fed >from the Yaesu FT-900 transceiver next to it in the trunk of the finest ham mobile ever made, my 1973 Mercedes 220 Diesel (no spark, no computers, no RF noise generators aboard). From 4 Mhz down to the bottom of 160 meters, it's not a good idea to lean on the car body as the ground plane isn't very good and it gives a nasty RF burn. There's so much RF on 75 meters, the dash lights glow from it. The golf cart batteries boost instantaneous output current to around 120-130A when you are on packet or RTTY or AMTOR keyed down up to 100% duty cycle. That's just under the 1500 W PEP input power limit. Of course, it would fail any RF radiation hazard test, blowing the hell out of the test receiver so close....which is the point, you know...(c; I've played in broadcasting while a Navy electronics tech around UHF TV, 5KW AM transmitters that lit the building flourescents without turning them on between the directional tower arrays, 100KW ERP FM transmitters, Navy radars, IFF, TACAN, etc. From 1965-1988. Larry's been irradiated. I'm fat, dumb and happy, mostly. I'm 59. Been in the hospital ONCE to stay over 4 hours with a kidney stone, until I figured out the local water supply full of elemental calcium was tearing my guts up. I distill my own drinking water and have solved the problem for many years, now. I don't visit doctors or medical people who must find something wrong with me to fund their big cars, fancy boats, waterfront mansions and expensive tastes. I simply refuse to participate in the medical ripoff America has become. I took a Tylenol about 3 months ago for a headache. The bottle of them on my workbench says EXP 10-02. Is that too long to keep them at room temperature?? When my hypocondriac wife left me in 1992, I dumped $4000 in drugs into the trash. My 82 year old father eats $400-500/week in pills. He lives to take them. I think RF makes me horny, but I consider that a beneficial side effect, not a danger.....well, unless her husband comes home early...(c; RF isn't dangerous or I'd have been dead 30 years ago. This cellphone bullshit was propagated by the cellular phone industry, itself, so they could overcome customer resistance to turning down the cellphone power level from a usable 3W to 150 milliwatts, which is what new phones run now, having no range at all. It's all about revenue per square mile on Digital, not customer service. -- Larry 73 DE W4CSC Warning - The big antenna on the trailer hitch of the car is controlled by the packet TNC under the dash. High power transmissions are frequent and unattended. The sign on the antenna says DANGER - RF RADIATION HAZARD. Many hams at hamfests, unable to read, got burned from the crossband packet node from the VHF walkie inside the hamfest through the HF packet node in the parking lot!.............idiots. I told them it was part of the car's alarm system...(c; Article: 322374 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Hagman" Subject: Ohio- Monster Philco ALERT Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:35:39 -0400 Message-ID: <11i75vus6shs6e0@corp.supernews.com> Philco's phirst high phidelity set, 11 tubes- http://cgi.ebay.com/PHILCO-CONSOLE-RADIO-MODEL-15X-SERIES_W0QQitemZ655900723 9QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Article: 322375 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: OT - Help identify tower manufacturer Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 02:38:15 GMT John to the rescue again!!! Thanks a bunch. I will use the information you sent me in good health and to maintain good health. Paul. "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:xdiUe.319627$_o.172770@attbi_s71... > In article , > p.pinyotREMOVE@REMOVEworldnet.attREMOVE.netREMOVE says... > > > > > >Gentlemen, > > > >I am attempting to identify the tower manufacture of the tower pictured at: > >http://www.ppinyot.com/antenna.htm. I would like to properly design a > > > >Thanks Paul > > > >paul at ppinyot dot com > > > > > > > Hi Paul... the tower is a Rohn Spaulding Self Supporter... you didn't > mention the height of the tower.... they were available up to 64 feet > in height... depending on which sections you purchased.... > > I have a Rohn Tower Spec book... it has all the information in it > that you would need to build a proper base for the tower... > > not sure about the Beam.. perhaps a Cushcraft A-4 ... the lower powered > early model I think???... I could be wrong here... > > Rotor???... not sure what it is... hope at least a Ham 3 or 4 model... > > Next... what is it worth?... not a whole lot at this point... and you > won't know the total condition until you get it down... example... > I have one laying here.. on the ground... a 64 footer.. it has some > damage to the top section... all the bolts and nuts were a total > mess.... so those I pitched when I took it down... the price of the > one I have laying here... tower needs a paintjob.. has a little > surface rust... gimme 50 bucks and haul it away... and its already > on the ground.... so the one I have needs a paintjob... all new > bolts/nuts/washers.. and a little work on the top section... yes I know > your too far from me to take this one... just giving you the > idea of what it is worth.... the saleable value of the rotor is > probably more than the value of the tower and antenna on the used > Ham Market... > > Next.... how to get it down.. it takes a specially built Rohn Gin Pole > to take that tower down... yes I have one here... Gin Pole mounts to > each section near the top of 2nd section from top... pole sticks up > above top section.... pulley and rope... remove all the bolts.. pull > a bit... send down tower section to the ground crew... move pole down > one section and repeat until its all on the ground... bottom section > will take 3 guys to remove it... > > The mount that is there now is a "Tilt Mount" made so that you can > tilt the whole tower over to take it apart... problem is I don't see > anything available to use as fulcrum point.... large tree?... something > that won't move that you can tie off to to lower it all in one > piece... perhaps there is something?... depending on the height of the > tower ... the 50 footer version.. actually only 46 feet with the section > overlaps... it takes about a 15 foot dead man post right next to the tower > and a couple of cable runs to two different points on the tower and > it can be a complete tilt over crank it up operation with an oversized > boat winch.. > > anyway... send us more info on the height etc... and will look up the > Rohn SPecs for you... > > email us at k9uwa at arrl dot net > > John k9uwa > > Article: 322376 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Health problems of old technicians? From: Larry References: <_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net> <2pDUe.21266$sw6.114@fed1read05> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:38:41 -0400 "Bob in Phx" wrote in news:2pDUe.21266$sw6.114@fed1read05: > So, if the color TV was going to give me x-rays, why did my Aunt have > me sit so close to the TV when I was a kid. In fact she always had me > watch TV in the dark. Come to thing about it,,,, she only had me sit > close when here boyfriend was helping her baby sit...... hmmm... Now > that I look back,,, I think something might have been going > on!!!!!!!!!! > > The old round-screen color TV DID radiate a fair Xray signal when the aquadag voltage was over 30KV! If you find one, you can make your own chest Xray! Take an Xray film from your hospital out of its shield packet in the dark and put it between two black plastic covers...keep it out of the light anyways.... Tape it to your back and go sit where you did when you were 9 watching cartoons so close to the big RCA color TV. It takes about 30-60 minutes to get a good clear, scanned-by-the-TV, image. Not near as good as a shoe-store flouroscope was in realtime, radiating through your feet, through the phosphor screen on its way through your brains staring for hours at the bones in your feet, the inside of the radio you placed in the foot holes to see what it looked like, your buddy's hand, etc.... One of my grade-school pal's father owned the shoe store! Our film badges would have been BLACK!...BURNED! -- Larry - Glowing in the dark, especially during thunderstorms... Article: 322377 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: Butler PA Hamfest, tomorrow Sunday. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 02:39:05 GMT See you there, perhaps. PP Article: 322378 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Health problems of old technicians? From: Larry References: <_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net> <1_Sdnd0tBslIib7eRVn-1Q@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:41:20 -0400 "Phil Nelson" wrote in news:1_Sdnd0tBslIib7eRVn-1Q@giganews.com: > I'm not worried about electrical fields, but inhaling solder fumes > seems like a pretty Bad Idea. > > Lead is a very dangerous neurotoxin. It has been banned for use in > paint, water pipes, and so on. > > How many of you old guys, like me, have MERCURY AMALGAM FILLINGS in those molars in your mouth? The mercury in mine migrates down into the root, into my blood stream, and makes me forget something awful! I've had all but 2 of them pulled, by now.... Lots more dangerous than soldering those Zeniths. -- Larry Article: 322379 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Health problems of old technicians? From: Larry References: <_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net> <1_Sdnd0tBslIib7eRVn-1Q@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:42:53 -0400 "William Sommerwerck" wrote in news:KsadnUlRXNingb7eRVn-tQ@comcast.com: > significant amount in the fumes, which are rosin. (sniff-sniff Good > stuff, man.) > Funny, that rosin you've been telling the wife about sure smells like POT! -- Larry Article: 322380 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:45:47 -0400 "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in news:dftjq905g2@news3.newsguy.com: > What a bummer......... > > -Scott > www.mouser.com They'll sell you just one....of anything. -- Larry Article: 322381 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1126266605.273945.20840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11i48v5k8hhc04a@corp.supernews.com> <11i6fcgmsupfb43@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Final Kutztown Roll Call Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 02:56:57 GMT I hope to :-) THere are a few empty cabinets Id GIVE away, and a very few sets that I know Ill probably never do but whenever I buy one I always have the intention of restoring it. My biggest problem with a table is that if it doenst sell for some reason... then it takes up room in the VW where a new one could have gone. Course there IS the auction... If you see me behind a table in the future... and it COULD happen, its probably because a Wife has become part of my life and 2 tables would mean Kids!! Keith > > > Keith- > > WHEN are you gonna get a table? Go into the basement and tell me you're > gonna get to all of those someday. Why not sell some and buy one for every > two sold, for example. > > John H. > > Article: 322382 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: While ARF is being restored... Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 21:07:51 -0600 Message-ID: References: <8EBUe.74627$DW1.26974@fed1read06> 'pimp my site' randy " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:8EBUe.74627$DW1.26974@fed1read06... > Yeah, but are they really "restoring" it? Or is it gonna be > another Mohawk toner and yellow cap restuff job???? > > > > Article: 322383 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Ohio- Monster Philco ALERT Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 21:14:59 -0600 Message-ID: References: <11i75vus6shs6e0@corp.supernews.com> this might work better for some: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6559007239 Article: 322384 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Radiola IV Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 21:13:52 -0600 Message-ID: <19483-4323A0F0-327@storefull-3332.bay.webtv.net> Just found a chassis for a Radiola IV. Anyone have a cabinet? DON AC7PD Article: 322385 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:47:44 -0700 Message-ID: References: <9iLUe.909$wR4.133383@monger.newsread.com> Steven Dinius_ wrote: > "Sparky" wrote in message > news:F8LUe.1665$Qq1.230052@newshog.newsread.com... > >>There is no more Radio Shack in Canada. It has been renamed The Source > > by > >>Circuit city. >> >>That circuit city is involved makes it even less desireable than when it > > was > >>Radio Shack. > > > The Source was always the NBC Radio Network's rock music service to me. That was absorbed by Westwood One many, many years ago. -Scott Article: 322386 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: primeuser Subject: Re: Come chat if your online Message-ID: References: <1126394752.991280.210270@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 06:37:26 GMT Nothing but a nice plain old chat client for talking old radio... harmless... I've been using it the last three nights w/o problems. On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:05:57 -0400, Larry wrote: >"Radio-Years" wrote in >news:1126394752.991280.210270@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > >> come to the chat room ,if you are online >> >> > >What's in the applet? Any forced spam, spyware, etc? > >applet > codebase="http://client0.sigmachat.com/current/" > code="Client.class" archive="scclient_en.zip" > width=600 height=400 MAYSCRIPT> > > > Article: 322387 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2005 23:23:05 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1126358997.000490.307520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> William Sommerwerck wrote: > I would not be so quick to condemn RS. My distaste with the RS is with its > employees. You can't expect to find knowledgable sales people for -- what? > $10 an hour? To be fair, both sales guys I talked to (I went to two RS stores) knew exactly what I was looking for when I told them I needed a 70-volt line transformer for a PA, they just didn't have it. > > "There was a time" -- not that long ago -- when Radio Shack stores had a > decent selection of electronic components, and even oddball stuff (such as > Compact Cassette repair kits). Those days are passing. I would guess that > the demand for parts and components is no longer great enough to justify > stocking them, regardless of how cheaply RS buys them from China. I'm guessing that the really small parts-transistors, resistors, LEDs, connectors and such-will continue to be stocked. They can fit in those little drawers that they have replaced the pegboards with, so they don't take up much room. They still have a decent selection of little tools for electronic work, although the location in the stores of this kind of stuff is now always in the least prominent area of the store, way in the back. > > But the days when you could walk into a real electronics-supply store (such > as Radio-Electric Service in Bal'mer) are long, LONG gone. I suppose we > should be grateful we have lots of well-stocked electronic distributors with > searchable on-line catalogs. The brick-and mortar parts businesses really started swirling the bowl about the time that IBM-PC compatible computers started coming onto the scene in a big way. Most of these businesses got way too deep into the business of supplying computer parts at increasingly thin margins, and eventually folded as a result. Those that survived went to mail order only, or moved to really crappy sections of town where the rents are lower. I remember Quement Electronics in San Jose, which was the largest operation of its type in the Bay Area. Imagine a parts store as large as a Safeway or A & P type store, with every aisle loaded with 8 foot pegboards full of parts. If they didn't have it, you probably couldn't get it anywhere else locally. It has been gone for years. Ahhh, memories...... -Scott Article: 322388 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Fred Wesner Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. References: <9iLUe.909$wR4.133383@monger.newsread.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 06:55:50 GMT Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > The Source was always the NBC Radio Network's rock music service to me. > > Yawn. Article: 322389 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert McLean" References: Subject: Re: OT Time travel Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 08:54:01 -0400 " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:d_1Se.73781$DW1.40305@fed1read06... > I think I have perfected it. > > > > Ok, its been over a week now, standard earth time, I think, since your post, so maybe I can ask this now without spoiling the fun, but How did you do that ?? Article: 322390 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: OT Time travel Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:45:18 GMT "Robert McLean" wrote in message news:KNVUe.27$6Z1.12922@news20.bellglobal.com... > > " Uncle Peter" wrote in message > news:d_1Se.73781$DW1.40305@fed1read06... >> I think I have perfected it. >> >> >> >> > > Ok, its been over a week now, standard earth time, I think, since your > post, so maybe I can ask this now without spoiling the fun, but How did > you do that ?? > > > Rent the movie "Napoleon Dynamite" and freeze frame the part where Napoleon looks over his uncle's time machine that he bought on eBay. The construction is quite basic, and should be easily replicated from what you see. At least, that's how I'm building mine. I just haven't found a subject to test it on yet. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 322391 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 07:43:09 -0700 From: RC Subject: Smoke damage on circuit boards? Message-ID: <432441a4$1_1@dowco.com> I have my (4th) Advent 300 I'm restoring (yes it is an addiction), this one looks like it has been in a fire. No physical damage, but soot all over the boards, any suggestions? Thanks Ray Article: 322392 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: antanna lead in wire Message-ID: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:03:06 GMT I have seen the old type of antenna kits , which supplied a flat 2 wire cable to go through the old wooden type of window frame. Nowadays we have so much interference in our homes with electrical devices. it seems to me it would make more sense to use a coaxial cable for this. Is cablevision wire appropriate for running an antenna wire ? or is the resistance too high? Phil Article: 322393 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 11:20:15 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> Message-ID: <27c7e$43244b31$4232bd80$15390@COQUI.NET> philsvintageradios wrote: > > Is cablevision wire appropriate for running an antenna wire ? or is > the resistance too high? > > Phil Sure, it can be used. The resistance doesn't really play into the game unless it is VERY long. Apprx. DC resistance is about the same as 18-20 gauge solid copper wire...depends on the cable. -Bill Article: 322394 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43245064.B2B18EFE@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: OT Time travel References: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 15:41:48 GMT Robert McLean wrote: > > Ok, its been over a week now, standard earth time, I think, since your post, > so maybe I can ask this now without spoiling the fun, but How did you do > that ?? You change the date on your computer. If your news server doesn't use its own time stamp it will be posted with whatever time and date your computer is set to display. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322395 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> <27c7e$43244b31$4232bd80$15390@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire Message-ID: <_GYUe.77907$DW1.34169@fed1read06> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:11:35 -0400 "-ex-" wrote in message news:27c7e$43244b31$4232bd80$15390@COQUI.NET... > philsvintageradios wrote: > > > > > Is cablevision wire appropriate for running an antenna wire ? or is > > the resistance too high? > > > > Phil > > Sure, it can be used. The resistance doesn't really play into the game > unless it is VERY long. Apprx. DC resistance is about the same as 18-20 > gauge solid copper wire...depends on the cable. > > -Bill Yo Bill, Ask if he means impedance instead of resistance. 75 ohms vs. 50 ohms. Pete Article: 322396 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Philco 90 Parts II Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:37:03 -0400 These blocks don't have to be from a Philco 90, blocks from any Philco radio that used them would do. Ken Article: 322397 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 13:03:10 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> <1126455011.611119.42390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <9c635$43246350$4232bd80$8098@COQUI.NET> oidar@nexicom.net wrote: > I posted a similar question to another forum and received many > explanations as to why i would not work. The devil is in the details. Old radio vs new 50-ohm radio? SW or BC frequencies? Single SW band? Type of antenna? Simply hooking coax to a random-wire antenna is going to create mismatches at *most* frequencies. Adding stepup/down transformers at both ends smooths out the mismatching to a degree..but only if its done correctly. Otherwise you can make a bad situation worse. Suffice it to say that if the shielded portion aids in rejecting household interference and lets you hear things, the mismatching can be overlooked - in practice. -Bill Article: 322398 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire Message-ID: <8no8i15kap13kii2e9q627givu6j9n2bkd@4ax.com> References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> <27c7e$43244b31$4232bd80$15390@COQUI.NET> <_GYUe.77907$DW1.34169@fed1read06> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:13:51 GMT On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 12:11:35 -0400, " Uncle Peter" wrote: > >"-ex-" wrote in message >news:27c7e$43244b31$4232bd80$15390@COQUI.NET... >> philsvintageradios wrote: >> >> > >> > Is cablevision wire appropriate for running an antenna wire ? or is >> > the resistance too high? >> > >> > Phil >> >> Sure, it can be used. The resistance doesn't really play into the game >> unless it is VERY long. Apprx. DC resistance is about the same as 18-20 >> gauge solid copper wire...depends on the cable. >> >> -Bill > >Yo Bill, > >Ask if he means impedance instead of resistance. 75 ohms >vs. 50 ohms. > > >Pete > I am not sure I completely understand the effect impedence has on the antenna system. I read a post way back and was surprised that two radios would divide the signal , even withthe second set turned off. it makes sense when one stops to think about it. Since I have many radios at various locations throughout the house which I would like to play occasionally without moving them about. I have thought it would be nice to run wires using cablevision wire , and cable jacks throughout the house, then just connect the set I wish to use to a nearby cable outlet. Of course even with the conditions all wrong, it would work somewhat, but it would be nice to learn more to be able to do this with maximum signal. I also wonder about the capacitive effect of using the outer sheath of the cable as ground, and the inner wire for the antenna. would this have a negative effect on the signal? perhaps running two wires would be better if this is a concern. Thanks for all the tips and info guys. Phil Article: 322399 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" Subject: Today's Freebie haul Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:18:07 GMT I got an email earlier in the week from a friend who told me about his friend who was getting rid of stuff from his 2-way shop. He put me in touch with his friend, who was willing to give me anything I wanted, or else it was going in the trash. I stopped by this morning and left with the following: NLS Model LX-2 Digital Voltmeter. Nothing special, but is has a Nixie tube display. Eico Model 147A Signal Tracer. I had part of one, but this one is complete and working. Eico Model 1180 Capacitance Decade Box. Sencore Model FE20 Field Effect Multimeter. Heathkit Model HD-1250 Solid State Dip Meter. General Radio Co Model 14342N Decade Resistor. General Radio Co Variac (has "Property of General Electric Radio Engineering" tag). NJE Model SY 36-20 Power Supply (10-36 volt, 20amp). Tektronix Type 535 scope with Type D and Type CA plug-in modules. F-R Machine Works Type S771B Test Oscillator. Polytechnic Research & Development Co Type 560S1 Cavity with Frequency Meter. and some Microwave Filter Co filters. There was much more, including a belt recorder, RF amps, crystals, and other parts that would not fit in my car. In all - it was a very good morning, and my shop now has new toys for me to play with. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 322400 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> <1126455011.611119.42390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:00:18 GMT In article <1126455011.611119.42390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, oidar@nexicom.net says... > > >I posted a similar question to another forum and received many >explanations as to why i would not work. > >I found this site and built the system. It works well. > >http://www.webex.net/%7Eskywaves/ANTENNA/antsys.htm > >Ed. > Think Bill's first post confused the original question a bit... Coax works fine as a wire..... but to use it as it is intended... shielded cable to transfer a signal from one place to another place..... it works at its impedance only... looking at the above Antenna System... mentioned by Ed ... the only thing I see wrong there is that the 4 to 1 baluns... balun is by the way the wrong terminology.... they are also the wrong ratio to make the SWL system drawn.... they used the 4/1 because they are easy to find... and CHEAP... 300 ohm to 75 ohm VHF TV Baluns... thats Balanced to UnBalanced ... 300 twinlead balanced line to 75 ohm coax line.... what U really need if your going to build an antenna distribution system that will work ..... your antenna is Unbalanced... one long single wire... and Ground.... thats Unbalanced... it is also High Impedance.... ballpark they will be from 600 to 800 ohms... your old radio is also looking for a high impedance in the same range.... 600 to 800 ohms...... so next question... what is the impedance of the coax cable you intend to use?... the most easily available and good stuff is 75 ohm foam filled RG-6 its available in 1000 foot rolls for $100 ........ a bit more if your only buying 100 feet of the stuff.... it works well at lower frequencies that you want.... so... whats 75 ohms to 600 ohms?... thats 8 to 1 ratio or ........ 75 ohms to 800 ohms?.... thats 10.6 to one ratio... So.... your Un-Un transformers need to be around 9 to 1 ratio... they also need to be made from a material "Ferrite Core" that works at the frequencies of interest... 550 Khz... up to 25 or 30 Mhz.. and VHF TV Baluns AIN'T IT ....... wrong stuff... yes it works sorta half assed... but correct Ferrite Mix will work a whole lot better... Copied from www.w8ji.com website.... Tom's quote "I mainly use 73 material for receiving applications in LOW POWER applications between .1 and 30 MHz. 73 and similar core materials generally minimize the turns count required without inducing excessive loss. One of the best indicators of correct core selection is looking at the turns required. You'll notice most of the transformers I use have only one or two turns for every 100 ohms of impedance. My 75 to 450 ohm Beverage transformers, for example, only require two-turn primary and 5-turn secondary windings. A low "turns count" is a good indicator the correct core size and core material is being used." pay attention to that website... although most of it is in the interest of Ham Radio and such... Tom Rauch knows what he is talking about.. Anyway.... getting back to the original question... Antenna is outside and has a 9 to 1 Un-Un from antenna to coax.. 75 ohm cable... cable goes into the house... and at the other end you have another 9 to 1 Un-Un to bring the impedance back up to what your radio wants to see... next problem is the splitters ... the TV splitters work sort of OK down to about 1 Mhz... and unfortunately there isn't any good alternative to these things other than if you want to roll your own.. again they would be made with that same 73 mix ferrrite core material... you will still have a loss of about 3 dB for a 2/1 splitter... think the 3 ways are 4.2 dB and 4 ways are close to 6 dB loss... probably not a big deal even at 6dB for your radios... John k9uwa Article: 322401 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 16:32:59 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> <1126455011.611119.42390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > > Think Bill's first post confused the original question a bit... > Coax works fine as a wire..... but to use it as it is intended... > shielded cable to transfer a signal from one place to another > place..... it works at its impedance only... > > looking at the above Antenna System... mentioned by Ed ... the only > thing I see wrong there is that the 4 to 1 baluns... balun > is by the way the wrong terminology.... they are also the wrong > ratio to make the SWL system drawn.... they used the 4/1 because > they are easy to find... and CHEAP... 300 ohm to 75 ohm VHF > TV Baluns... thats Balanced to UnBalanced ... 300 twinlead balanced > line to 75 ohm coax line... > > So.... your Un-Un transformers need to be around 9 to 1 ratio... > they also need to be made from a material "Ferrite Core" that > works at the frequencies of interest... 550 Khz... up to 25 or 30 Mhz.. > > and VHF TV Baluns AIN'T IT ....... wrong stuff... yes it works > sorta half assed... but correct Ferrite Mix will work a whole lot > better... John, that particular link showed homemade transformers using cores with -73 ferrite material. Thats perfectly appropriate for BCB/SW operation. You're right about the TV stuff, though. For every correct version of this type of distribution scheme there's about 20 others on the net saying to use TV stuff. -Bill Article: 322402 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Robinson" Subject: Edison Mainspring Repair Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:33:38 GMT Hi All, My Edison Home player ran into a problem the other day. The 19 tooth brass gear failed and as a result, the mainspring rapidly unwound. I replaced the gear and decided to strip and clean the motor since I had things apart. I did not tear into the mainspring. Once I had everything back together, I realized that the winding shaft was not engaging the mainspring. I decided to pull apart the spring to clean and re-grease. After doing this, I still cannot get the inner coil to engage the widing shaft. I suspect that the slotted hole is now too large. I am having no luck getting access to the inner end of the spring to anneal and drill a new slot. It seems very hard to manipulate. Does anybody have any tips or tricks that might help? I am better off just getting a new spring from APSCO? If I do, does the replacement spring come with the slots already fabricated? Thanks in advance for any help. Regards, Mark Article: 322403 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> <1126455011.611119.42390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:38:41 GMT "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:m10Ve.344307$xm3.281858@attbi_s21... > Anyway.... getting back to the original question... Antenna is outside > and has a 9 to 1 Un-Un from antenna to coax.. 75 ohm cable... cable > goes into the house... and at the other end you have another > 9 to 1 Un-Un to bring the impedance back up to what your radio > wants to see... What is a good source for the 9:1 Un-Un's? I'm considering installing a random wire antenna using RG-6 as my lead-in, and that's the missing link. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 322404 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: Today's Freebie haul Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:43:59 GMT "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:mo2dnfsSi7s6FrneRVn-hg@comcast.com... >> NLS Model LX-2 Digital Voltmeter. Nothing special, but is has >> a nixie tube display. > > "Nothing special"? Wasn't it one of the first DVMs? > > I don't know. The guy didn't make any remarks about it, just that he didn't want it anymore. Did I find something special? -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 322405 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Robinson" References: <1F0Ve.10417$_84.1836@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Edison Mainspring Repair Message-ID: <7_0Ve.8684$c27.2624@trndny01> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:05:07 GMT Hi George, Thanks for the quick response and info. I'll give them a call on Monday and see if I should just let them do the whole thing. I'm not against doing it myself, but you may be right in this case. Mark "george conklin" wrote in message news:1F0Ve.10417$_84.1836@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > > "Mark Robinson" wrote in message > news:Cw0Ve.11855$ck6.578@trndny05... > > Hi All, > > > > My Edison Home player ran into a problem the other day. The 19 tooth > > brass > > gear failed and as a result, the mainspring rapidly unwound. I replaced > > the > > gear and decided to strip and clean the motor since I had things apart. I > > did not tear into the mainspring. Once I had everything back together, I > > realized that the winding shaft was not engaging the mainspring. I > > decided > > to pull apart the spring to clean and re-grease. After doing this, I > > still > > cannot get the inner coil to engage the widing shaft. I suspect that the > > slotted hole is now too large. I am having no luck getting access to the > > inner end of the spring to anneal and drill a new slot. It seems very > > hard > > to manipulate. Does anybody have any tips or tricks that might help? I > > am > > better off just getting a new spring from APSCO? If I do, does the > > replacement spring come with the slots already fabricated? Thanks in > > advance for any help. > > > > Regards, > > > > Mark > > > > > > I had APSCO replace my mainspring after it broke. But they also noted > that the reason why it broke was probably that the gear connected to the > barrel had failed, allowing the spring to unwind quickly. Who knows which > caused which. You mainspring might have unwound quickly and the vibration > caused the gear to fail from the vibration. Possible? I'd just send the > barrel to APSCO and let them do the whole job. > > Article: 322406 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 17:11:05 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> <1126455011.611119.42390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126471749.832725.259320@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <991ed$43249d6b$4232bd07$20742@COQUI.NET> oidar@nexicom.net wrote: > How well would you expect the type 43 ferrite material to work with an > increased number of turns on mainly the standard broadcast band? > > Thanks, > > Ed. > I don't think there's enough 'mu' there to make a good wideband xfmr at BCB. mu of -73 is 2500, -43 is only 850. What happens is that lower mu will mean more turns and the coil will approach more of a narrow resonant circuit than a wider flat one. -Bill Article: 322407 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Robinson" References: Subject: Re: Today's Freebie haul Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:16:31 GMT Hi William, I don't think that model was the first, but you are correct about NLS. Here is a link to some nice info on DVM history. http://www.hp9825.com/html/dvms.html Mark "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:mo2dnfsSi7s6FrneRVn-hg@comcast.com... > > NLS Model LX-2 Digital Voltmeter. Nothing special, but is has > > a nixie tube display. > > "Nothing special"? Wasn't it one of the first DVMs? > > Article: 322408 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1126358997.000490.307520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <0QDUe.774$wR4.125221@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:21:29 GMT "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in message news:0QDUe.774$wR4.125221@monger.newsread.com... > Who makes $10/hr here at all? > > Oops...meth lab owner. > > $15 / hour as a technician at a radio station. (Fix studio equipment - fix transmitters when they decided to get hit by lightning). -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 322409 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1126358997.000490.307520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126473062.752826.108810@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: <5f1Ve.941$wR4.143047@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:23:13 GMT Still got 'em. wrote in message news:1126473062.752826.108810@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > I'm guessing that the really small parts-transistors, resistors, LEDs, > > connectors and such-will continue to be stocked. They can fit in those > > little drawers that they have replaced the pegboards with, so they don't > > take up much room. They still have a decent selection of little tools > > for electronic work, although the location in the stores of this kind of > > stuff is now always in the least prominent area of the store, way in > > the back. > > > > The pegboards went away about a year ago. I went into RS on Thursday > looking for a mini-lamp and found that the little drawers that replaced > the pegboards were now gone too. No more small parts at my local RS. > The tools were still there though. > Article: 322410 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05> Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:26:42 GMT "Bob in Phx" wrote in message news:5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05... > The real fun is Fry's electronics (a southwest / west coast company) that > has every single NTE product in two isles... The problem is that the isles > are always 80% empty (no joke, I did a count on two of the fullest > racks!!!). The folks who run that section, never, never stock it.... its > worthless!!!! and frustrating as they have the space and just don't use > it!! > > Here in phx, there is only one electronics store left (that's any good), > its circuit specialists. Lucky for me its in my suburb.... > > bob in phx (mesa az really, but who cares!!) Here in the Binghamton, NY area, we have a store called Unicorn Electronics (http://www.unicornelex.com) that stocks most of the NTE line, as well as a good source of tools, GC stuff, HOSA audio cables, wire, shrink tube, etc. I'm in there at least once a week getting stuff for work, as well as shop supplies. They also have a good selection of computer stuff, and a "closeout" table that recently had a fairly complete TRS-80 compute for sale on it. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 322411 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> <1126455011.611119.42390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:50:10 GMT In article , jon@NOscapturaSPAM.com says... > > > >What is a good source for the 9:1 Un-Un's? I'm considering installing a >random wire antenna using RG-6 as my lead-in, and that's the missing link. > >-- >Jon Scaptura >Endicott, NY Hi Jon ... First I already had the outside portion of this project... I have three "Beverage Antennas" .... thats a long low single wire.. in my case they are only about 400 feet long as thats where I ran out of my property.. mine are terminated beverages... that makes the thing a single direction antenna.... rather than a Bi-Directional antenna.... works fine for 1.8 Mhz and above where it was designed to operate.. 400 feet isn't long enough on BC band so your better off NOT terminating the far end of the antenna... my terminations are 600 ohm non-inductive.. read that as Carbon Resistors... all three of my antennas originate from the same point.... one feedline of coax from there to the house.. so I had one Un-Un there and a remote relay switchbox to select one of three antennas... all I needed was at the house end to Up Convert the coax line back to hi impedance for the old radios... well me being too lazy to make the 9 to 1 Un Un's myself I managed to get a Ham Buddy of mine to make them up for me... For me he made the little boxes up with BNC connectors... many people would want "F" connectors on them... thats the same fittings as the cable tv people use... easy to get at rat shack and easy to install on the RG-6 coax.... I'll bug my buddy and ask him if he would make up more of them and if so at what price... The one box he made for me that is inside is actually what you might call a "Splitter" .... it is made for 75 ohm input from the coax and has two outputs on it... one for 75 ohms to my Ham Rig which is what my antennas were originally put up to use with... and the 2nd output is the hi impedance one for the old radios... I know that he ran load and loss tests across frequencies from 550 Khz to 30 Mhz and it is all nearly flat... and not a lot of loss. John k9uwa Article: 322412 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05> Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:52:57 GMT Color, or a model 1 without DOS : ) That's where I started...Trash 80's. "Jon" wrote in message news:mi1Ve.68424$EX.65714@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > "Bob in Phx" wrote in message > news:5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05... > > The real fun is Fry's electronics (a southwest / west coast company) that > > has every single NTE product in two isles... The problem is that the isles > > are always 80% empty (no joke, I did a count on two of the fullest > > racks!!!). The folks who run that section, never, never stock it.... its > > worthless!!!! and frustrating as they have the space and just don't use > > it!! > > > > Here in phx, there is only one electronics store left (that's any good), > > its circuit specialists. Lucky for me its in my suburb.... > > > > bob in phx (mesa az really, but who cares!!) > > Here in the Binghamton, NY area, we have a store called Unicorn Electronics > (http://www.unicornelex.com) that stocks most of the NTE line, as well as a > good source of tools, GC stuff, HOSA audio cables, wire, shrink tube, etc. > I'm in there at least once a week getting stuff for work, as well as shop > supplies. They also have a good selection of computer stuff, and a > "closeout" table that recently had a fairly complete TRS-80 compute for sale > on it. > > -- > Jon Scaptura > Endicott, NY > > See my antique radios here: > http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios > > Article: 322413 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> <1126455011.611119.42390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:53:43 GMT In article , k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF says... > > PS to my own article... a ground rod is required at both ends of your coax line.... you need it for a little lightning protection anyway.. John k9uwa Article: 322414 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1126358997.000490.307520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <0QDUe.774$wR4.125221@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:01:45 GMT Yeah, but there's only one guy in town who does that. I know Dave at West Valley, Rockwell Smith (Journal? or is he freelance now), there was the guy at Citadel in Boise (KBOI), but I lost track of some of these guys and especially anybody who worked at Clear Channel Boise stations (before they bought the stations)... Minimum wage in Oregon is currently around $7.55. Tha's assuming you can get a job or your small bussines owner isn't about to buckle under. "Jon" wrote in message news:td1Ve.68421$EX.66721@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in message > news:0QDUe.774$wR4.125221@monger.newsread.com... > > Who makes $10/hr here at all? > > > > Oops...meth lab owner. > > > > > > $15 / hour as a technician at a radio station. (Fix studio equipment - fix > transmitters when they decided to get hit by lightning). > > > -- > Jon Scaptura > Endicott, NY > > See my antique radios here: > http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios > > Article: 322415 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> <1126455011.611119.42390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:08:52 GMT In article , exray@coqui.net says... > > >John, that particular link showed homemade transformers using cores with >-73 ferrite material. Thats perfectly appropriate for BCB/SW operation. > You're right about the TV stuff, though. For every correct version of >this type of distribution scheme there's about 20 others on the net >saying to use TV stuff. > >-Bill Hi Bill .... your right.. I didn't read all the way down the page before... just to the part about the 4 to 1 and saw "Splitter" automatically thought TV Gizmo.... duh.... they have it right other than the 4 to 1 part ... looking way on down the line at the displays of different methods of hooking the Un-Un up to the antenna and coax and ground... Balun Applications they call it.. the first one is OK... and is what I use...the 2nd one... you will get all sorts of noise back into the house as the shield of the coax will carry it inside.... the third one with the doublet is OK.... With the three antennas I have... each is about 400 feet long.. one is NNW ... one is NE.. the third is EAST ... there are times that I can be listening to one station and switch antennas and listen to another station on the same frequency.. sure wish I could make them 800 to 1000 feet long! would be much better directivity! My original use for these antennas is for the 160 meter Ham Band.. thats at 1.8 to 2 Mhz... just a bit above the AM radio band... I have at this point 288 countries confirmed 2 way "QSO's" on TopBand... 160 meters.... that puts me in 15th place in the world standings... http://www.topbanders.com/ John k9uwa Article: 322416 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:48:25 -0230 "philsvintageradios" wrote in message news:6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com... > > I have seen the old type of antenna kits , which supplied a flat 2 > wire cable to go through the old wooden type of window frame. > > Nowadays we have so much interference in our homes with electrical > devices. it seems to me it would make more sense to use a coaxial > cable for this. > > Is cablevision wire appropriate for running an antenna wire ? or is > the resistance too high? > Looking at this OP I can't figure out if it's question about a flat twin lead connection to a TV antenna for a TV receiver or a lead in for a radio receiver's outside short wave, broadcast band and/or possibly FM band antenna? Anyway, regardless of frequency RF feed lines work best if they are properly impedance matched; at both ends. Namely where the antenna connects to the feed line (be it flat win or co-ax) and again at the receiver. I understand that lengths of co-ax (or twin lead) can introduce significant capacity across/between the two conductors because they are so close together and, well, co-axial to each other! For example RG58 is listed as having a capacitance of around 30 micro micro farads per foot. So even 33 feet of it has about 100 mmfd. A typical radio tuning capacitor 'might' have a fully meshed (maximum) capacitance of, say 345 to 500 mmfd. So that 33 feet could easily detune the front end of a radio receiver; all depending how it is connected? So what is the question? TV or radio? Article: 322417 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Today's Freebie haul From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 22:31:51 GMT In article , jon@NOscapturaSPAM.com says... > > >Jon Scaptura >Endicott, NY > > Super Nice HAUL of goodies! John k9uwa Article: 322418 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Today's Freebie haul Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:21:53 -0400 "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:mo2dnfsSi7s6FrneRVn-hg@comcast.com... > > NLS Model LX-2 Digital Voltmeter. Nothing special, but is has > > a nixie tube display. > > "Nothing special"? Wasn't it one of the first DVMs? > > first digitals were motor driven displays. Whrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. Like the R-390 display. Article: 322419 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Today's Freebie haul Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 18:16:37 -0600 Message-ID: <21133-4324C8E5-722@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: Its always fun to find a new haul of stuff like that even if some of it is of no $ value the fun looking at it all for a while is better than $ I did a good cleaning this weekend , had a yard sale to help get rid some of it before i started tossing . Our garbage service delivered nice big trash cans on wheels around here so the truck can lift them up instead of the guys hurting their backs . I like this big bin/can because i was able to fit Majestic chassis , 12`` speakers some records a few older Sansui and Pioneer 70`s stereos and a couple Advent speakers a couple GE clock radios etc. in the garbage .. no one would buy . Now room for new stuff :-) Article: 322420 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire From: Larry References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> <1126455011.611119.42390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:29:42 -0400 k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) wrote in news:mE1Ve.324545$_o.47508@attbi_s71: > I know that he ran load and loss tests across frequencies from 550 > Khz to 30 Mhz and it is all nearly flat... and not a lot of loss. > > John k9uwa > John, how much voltage do you get induced from the thunderstorms when it's not terminated? I used to have a longwire up the side of a hill in upstate NY that was over 1300' long, hung on plastic electric fence insulators. It terminated in a garage hamshack at my buddy's house. After several flashovers, his dad said we had to stop doing that, so used sparkplugs to the city water pipes (steel). Even then, it was exciting to be in the barn when you could hear thunder...(c; I was a teen in those days...invincible. AM/SW reception was simply amazing at that length. From central NY, WLS, KDKA, WBZ, WABC were groundwave stations in the middle of the day... WKBW in Buffalo at 50KW could be heard on a galena crystal set between the wire and city water pipes. -- Larry Article: 322421 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. From: Larry References: <5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:34:30 -0400 "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in news:ZG1Ve.944$wR4.143010@monger.newsread.com: > Color, or a model 1 without DOS : ) That's where I started...Trash 80's. > Rookie......SWTP here. REAL computers have toggle switches for input and light bulbs for output....step....step....step....step. Ok, I admit it. I paid $249 for a teletype interface for my KSR, which made running programs MUCH nicer...(c; Bill Gates and Paul Allen used to program for the Altair. -- Larry Article: 322422 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Today's Freebie haul From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:39:04 -0400 " Uncle Peter" wrote in news:p_2Ve.77935$DW1.39574@fed1read06: > first digitals were motor driven displays. > Whrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. > Like the R-390 display. > > Correct. The motors drove the displays and balanced the bridge for you....unlike the Fluke differentials you had to balance by hand, yourself. "No, Sir. We can't calibrate that Fluke for 6 months, because you turned the standard cell upside down when you inverted it and it'll take time for it to settle...if we're lucky." Been there, done that, got the t-shirts.... NLS means "Non Linear Systems"....Unfortunately, their DVMs circuits were also "Non Linear Systems"...REJECT!~...)(*&$)(@*#%_)(*#$(*&.....NO CARRIER -- Larry Article: 322423 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Today's Freebie haul Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 02:42:37 +0200 Message-ID: References: <21133-4324C8E5-722@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Ken G. wrote: > I like this big bin/can because i was able to fit Majestic chassis , > 12`` speakers some records a few older Sansui and Pioneer 70`s stereos > and a couple Advent speakers a couple GE clock radios etc. in the > garbage .. no one would buy . Now room for new stuff :-) Did you never thought about donating as a give-away? "Banause culture", the French would say ;-) Kind Regards, Georg Article: 322424 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> <1126455011.611119.42390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 01:31:56 GMT In article , noone@home.com says... > > >John, how much voltage do you get induced from the thunderstorms when it's >not terminated? I used to have a longwire up the side of a hill in upstate >-- >Larry Hi Larry .. wish I had 1300 feet available for them!.... even the 450 footers I have... once I had one with no transformer on it.. just direct coax feed and an RCA plug on the inside end of it.. laying on the floor and NO storm going on... some activity but none in imediate vicinity.. and that little RCA plug was being jumped by a nice spark about every few minutes..... however.... with the beverage transformers... Un- Un's on them.. you have a direct to ground DC path so it isn't a problem to the radio end... I have had the resistors blown a few times and I am using about 15 watts worth of carbon resistors on them... So far it has never blown the Un-Un's... John k9uwa Article: 322425 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Chong Ong Subject: Wanted WE KS-19602 L1 Amp Schematic Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 21:59:40 -0400 Any info available? Need to figure out how to make right connections via jumpers for correct 16 or 8 Ohms speaker taps. This amp made by McIntosh for WE. Output tubes are 2 x 7591A's. Thanks. Chong Article: 322426 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Date: 12 Sep 2005 02:22:13 GMT Message-ID: References: <5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05> Larry (noone@home.com) writes: > "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in > news:ZG1Ve.944$wR4.143010@monger.newsread.com: > >> Color, or a model 1 without DOS : ) That's where I started...Trash 80's. >> > > Rookie......SWTP here. REAL computers have toggle switches for input and > light bulbs for output....step....step....step....step. > But the SWTP did not have toggle switches and lights on the front panel. That was a selling point (or a detracting point if you were the competition), making it easier to build and get going. Michael > Ok, I admit it. I paid $249 for a teletype interface for my KSR, which > made running programs MUCH nicer...(c; > > Bill Gates and Paul Allen used to program for the Altair. > > -- > Larry Article: 322427 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" Subject: FS - isolation transformer anyone??? Message-ID: <1126491935.cd01789162497fc08a9c1c3049e89d99@teranews> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:25:32 -0700 ok, I ran across a really nice isolation transformer, perfect for your workbench - it's made by OneAC corporation, Libertyvbill IL, model CL11007, P/N 006-081, input is 120VAC, output is 120VAC, mad total output is 6.25 amps, it's UL listed, it has a single AC outlet, and a nice grounded AC cord, and it has a binding post marked "envronmental reference ground". It's in a nice beige case that you can mount to your bench (underneath, for example). I can ship in a flat rate box for $8, I want $32 for the transformer. If you wish, I can take a photo or two. Email me per instructions below: -- Bill to Email me, repair this address and use it: william_ b_ noble at msn dot com also check out http://www.wbnoble.com Article: 322428 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05> Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: <1126492297.e0f610633cba9d8ba7ce3411540e2172@teranews> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:31:35 -0700 should I mention that my first home computer was a PDP-8S (s for serial!!!), it had 13 bit core memory, and all discrete logic, and the schematic symbols DEC used were very much non standard. It had a wire wrapped "back plane" that was not quite like the schematic, and ...... but it did have switches and lights "Michael Black" wrote in message news:dg2ool$peg$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... > > Larry (noone@home.com) writes: >> "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in >> news:ZG1Ve.944$wR4.143010@monger.newsread.com: >> >>> Color, or a model 1 without DOS : ) That's where I started...Trash 80's. >>> >> >> Rookie......SWTP here. REAL computers have toggle switches for input and >> light bulbs for output....step....step....step....step. >> > But the SWTP did not have toggle switches and lights on the front panel. > That was a selling point (or a detracting point if you were the > competition), > making it easier to build and get going. > > Michael > >> Ok, I admit it. I paid $249 for a teletype interface for my KSR, which >> made running programs MUCH nicer...(c; >> >> Bill Gates and Paul Allen used to program for the Altair. >> >> -- >> Larry > > Article: 322429 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4324F3E8.59A0B300@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FS - isolation transformer anyone??? References: <1126491935.cd01789162497fc08a9c1c3049e89d99@teranews> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 03:19:38 GMT william_b_noble wrote: > > ok, I ran across a really nice isolation transformer, perfect for your > workbench - it's made by OneAC corporation, Libertyvbill IL, model CL11007, > P/N 006-081, input is 120VAC, output is 120VAC, mad total output is 6.25 > amps, it's UL listed, it has a single AC outlet, and a nice grounded AC > cord, and it has a binding post marked "envronmental reference ground". > It's in a nice beige case that you can mount to your bench (underneath, for > example). I can ship in a flat rate box for $8, I want $32 for the > transformer. If you wish, I can take a photo or two. Email me per > instructions below: > > -- > Bill > > to Email me, repair this address and use it: > william_ b_ noble at msn dot com > > also check out http://www.wbnoble.com That's a CVT isn't it? I've never seen a straight isolation transformer form Oneac, just isolation/CVT units made to protect computers. The output isn't a sine wave on the ones I've seen. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322430 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <21133-4324C8E5-722@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Today's Freebie haul Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 03:21:07 GMT Geez, Ken, thanks.Here I am trying to figure out how I will recone the 12" in my Altecs, find knobs and switches, light and assorted for my Sx-525, SA/TX-6500 II, Marantz 2238...Good grief. Haul it back out and I'll come get it on the 1st, just name what you want for it. I hopw to have a garage of good size for it and it might just be the home I purchase. "Ken G." wrote in message news:21133-4324C8E5-722@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... > Its always fun to find a new haul of stuff like that even if some of it > is of no $ value the fun looking at it all for a while is better than $ > > I did a good cleaning this weekend , had a yard sale to help get rid > some of it before i started tossing . > Our garbage service delivered nice big trash cans on wheels around here > so the truck can lift them up instead of the guys hurting their backs . > I like this big bin/can because i was able to fit Majestic chassis , > 12`` speakers some records a few older Sansui and Pioneer 70`s stereos > and a couple Advent speakers a couple GE clock radios etc. in the > garbage .. no one would buy . Now room for new stuff :-) > Article: 322431 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05> Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 03:24:26 GMT I've got some old square printer buttons, the lighted kind, from about the era of your childhood ;^) "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96CED00E62DEFnoone@63.223.7.253... > "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in > news:ZG1Ve.944$wR4.143010@monger.newsread.com: > > > Color, or a model 1 without DOS : ) That's where I started...Trash 80's. > > > > Rookie......SWTP here. REAL computers have toggle switches for input and > light bulbs for output....step....step....step....step. > > Ok, I admit it. I paid $249 for a teletype interface for my KSR, which > made running programs MUCH nicer...(c; > > Bill Gates and Paul Allen used to program for the Altair. > > -- > Larry Article: 322432 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05> <1126492297.e0f610633cba9d8ba7ce3411540e2172@teranews> Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 03:26:09 GMT "Set coordinates for Starbase Eleven, Mister Sulu" "Aye, captain" "william_b_noble" wrote in message news:1126492297.e0f610633cba9d8ba7ce3411540e2172@teranews... > should I mention that my first home computer was a PDP-8S (s for serial!!!), > it had 13 bit core memory, and all discrete logic, and the schematic symbols > DEC used were very much non standard. It had a wire wrapped "back plane" > that was not quite like the schematic, and ...... but it did have switches > and lights > > > "Michael Black" wrote in message > news:dg2ool$peg$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... > > > > Larry (noone@home.com) writes: > >> "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in > >> news:ZG1Ve.944$wR4.143010@monger.newsread.com: > >> > >>> Color, or a model 1 without DOS : ) That's where I started...Trash 80's. > >>> > >> > >> Rookie......SWTP here. REAL computers have toggle switches for input and > >> light bulbs for output....step....step....step....step. > >> > > But the SWTP did not have toggle switches and lights on the front panel. > > That was a selling point (or a detracting point if you were the > > competition), > > making it easier to build and get going. > > > > Michael > > > >> Ok, I admit it. I paid $249 for a teletype interface for my KSR, which > >> made running programs MUCH nicer...(c; > >> > >> Bill Gates and Paul Allen used to program for the Altair. > >> > >> -- > >> Larry > > > > > > Article: 322433 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <4YNRe.11553$p%3.45671@typhoon.sonic.net> <99169$4317f227$4232bd15$2799@COQUI.NET> <1126297308.807197.23710@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5qv3i1tgefcuejhnldpgei2bo2op225b56@4ax.com> <1126478080.396910.281480@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Global warming? More flooded radios, eh? But people are more important. Message-ID: <5A6Ve.958$wR4.146436@monger.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 03:26:57 GMT After I forgot the poster. "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1126478080.396910.281480@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > BEFORE or after you remembered the line and the source? > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 322434 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05> <1126492297.e0f610633cba9d8ba7ce3411540e2172@teranews> Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:31:08 -0700 Wire wrap back board... I hadnt thought about that in years!!! I was watching a Field Engineer, late night on a Saturday, make some upgrades to a Burroughs 4800 and gave him a smart assed remark like "some day I am going to cut one of those wires and you will never find it!!!". His reply was "I'll find it and fast.... but if you were to add a wire... I'd never find it and this machine would never work again!!!" .... Bob in phx (Who used to run a pdp-11 for work!!!!) "william_b_noble" wrote in message news:1126492297.e0f610633cba9d8ba7ce3411540e2172@teranews... > should I mention that my first home computer was a PDP-8S (s for > serial!!!), it had 13 bit core memory, and all discrete logic, and the > schematic symbols DEC used were very much non standard. It had a wire > wrapped "back plane" that was not quite like the schematic, and ...... but > it did have switches and lights > > > "Michael Black" wrote in message > news:dg2ool$peg$1@theodyn.ncf.ca... >> >> Larry (noone@home.com) writes: >>> "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in >>> news:ZG1Ve.944$wR4.143010@monger.newsread.com: >>> >>>> Color, or a model 1 without DOS : ) That's where I started...Trash >>>> 80's. >>>> >>> >>> Rookie......SWTP here. REAL computers have toggle switches for input >>> and >>> light bulbs for output....step....step....step....step. >>> >> But the SWTP did not have toggle switches and lights on the front panel. >> That was a selling point (or a detracting point if you were the >> competition), >> making it easier to build and get going. >> >> Michael >> >>> Ok, I admit it. I paid $249 for a teletype interface for my KSR, which >>> made running programs MUCH nicer...(c; >>> >>> Bill Gates and Paul Allen used to program for the Altair. >>> >>> -- >>> Larry >> >> > > Article: 322435 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <1126491935.cd01789162497fc08a9c1c3049e89d99@teranews> <4324F3E8.59A0B300@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: FS - isolation transformer anyone??? Message-ID: <1126497249.4b5034d7170644b348b925dabdcda057@teranews> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2005 20:54:06 -0700 this sure looks like an isolation transformer to me - it has two windings which are in fact isolated from each other, there is a thermal switch in the middle between the two windings. There is a small capacitor (presulably for spike suppression) across the secondary. It does not say constant voltage, nor ferroresonant, and the transformer doesn't have the third winding that the SOLA type supplies have, so I am quite sure it's what I said it is - a basic isolation transformer. Oh, and it says "made in USA" as well. "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:4324F3E8.59A0B300@earthlink.net... > That's a CVT isn't it? I've never seen a straight isolation > transformer form Oneac, just isolation/CVT units made to protect > computers. The output isn't a sine wave on the ones I've seen. > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida > william_b_noble wrote: >> >> ok, I ran across a really nice isolation transformer, perfect for your >> workbench - it's made by OneAC corporation, Libertyvbill IL, model >> CL11007, >> P/N 006-081, input is 120VAC, output is 120VAC, mad total output is 6.25 >> amps, it's UL listed, it has a single AC outlet, and a nice grounded AC >> cord, and it has a binding post marked "envronmental reference ground". >> It's in a nice beige case that you can mount to your bench (underneath, >> for >> example). I can ship in a flat rate box for $8, I want $32 for the >> transformer. If you wish, I can take a photo or two. Email me per >> instructions below: >> >> -- >> Bill >> >> to Email me, repair this address and use it: >> william_ b_ noble at msn dot com >> >> also check out http://www.wbnoble.com > Article: 322436 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jm" References: <5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05> <1126500614.672833.248720@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 06:23:27 -0400 "Steven" wrote in message news:1126500614.672833.248720@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Larry wrote: >> "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in >> news:ZG1Ve.944$wR4.143010@monger.newsread.com: >> >> > Color, or a model 1 without DOS : ) That's where I started...Trash >> > 80's. >> > >> >> Rookie......SWTP here. REAL computers have toggle switches for input and >> light bulbs for output....step....step....step....step. >> >> Ok, I admit it. I paid $249 for a teletype interface for my KSR, which >> made running programs MUCH nicer...(c; >> >> Bill Gates and Paul Allen used to program for the Altair. > > Yes, indeed. That was built with the Intel 8080, correct? I think > eveyone remembers the current Intel line/dynasty-nasty din started with > the 8086, 8088? and the 80286 (286, and x86 up through Pentium 3 at > least), but not enough people can recall the 8080 that followed the > 8008, 4004 and other nonsense that were more like calculator chips than > microprocessors for computers. The 8080 family is kinda like that brach > of Hominid that started the ball of wax but got set aside as a tangent, > yet modern "microcomputers" or PCs would not have happened that way > without them. There were "simple" tasks that you could do with one that > make multimedia PC gizmos look stupid, and Fred Nachbauer (know I've > spelled it wrong) was the one who could do it. > In Scientific.Electronics.Basics I think it was, there was a very recent thread on the beginnings of home computing. They touched on the 8080, SWTP, Altair, and so on. May want to check it out - if interested. jm Article: 322437 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire From: Larry References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> <1126455011.611119.42390@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 07:42:13 -0400 k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) wrote in news:gU4Ve.103470$084.52771@attbi_s22: > however.... with the beverage transformers... Un- Un's on them.. you have > a direct to ground DC path so it isn't a problem to the radio end... > I have had the resistors blown a few times and I am using about 15 watts > worth of carbon resistors on them... > > Our flashovers were more spectacular. One burned a hole in the floor under where the antenna panel was located, following a nail in the floor, then jumping to the car in the garage under it...(c; The ununs take all the fun out of it.... Tesla was right.... -- Larry Article: 322438 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. From: Larry References: <5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05> <1126492297.e0f610633cba9d8ba7ce3411540e2172@teranews> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 07:51:31 -0400 "william_b_noble" wrote in news:1126492297.e0f610633cba9d8ba7ce3411540e2172@teranews: > 13 bit core memory Ah, memory cores....temporary storage, very temporary! The first hard drive I saw was a huge drum. We were allowed to look into the room where it was whirring away, but not allowed to go in there because ANY vibration made its heads crash into the drum. We were still impressed... Today, I'm carrying around a 100GB Digital Mind portable MP3 player with a 2.5", 100GB hard drive that will work fine in motion banging around on my hip or in my truck. How times have changed. Toshiba has a new, tiny microdrive that's only 8GB. What's new about it is it takes up LESS room than a memory card and can survive a 2000G shock RUNNING! Accelerometers built into it sense you dropping it as it falls away from your hand, park the heads in microseconds on the way down long before the drive hits the concrete floor running. Minimum drop distance for this to happen? FOUR INCHES. As soon as it hits the concrete, event over, the heads go get the data they were after before you dropped it.... Toshiba also has a new Li-Ion battery that recharges to 80% in 60 seconds and 100% in 3 minutes....making recharging your electric car FASTER than filling your gas tank. -- Larry Article: 322439 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. From: Larry References: <5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05> <1126500614.672833.248720@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 08:01:02 -0400 "Steven" wrote in news:1126500614.672833.248720@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > There were "simple" tasks that you could do with one that > make multimedia PC gizmos look stupid, and Fred Nachbauer (know I've > spelled it wrong) was the one who could do it. > > I work on a lot of digital antiques in old organs every week. The organ companies fell in love with the 80186 for many years before the custom chips you can no longer buy came on the market. Lowrey Organ used a LOT of off-the-shelf computer ICs in their stuff trying to avoid the R&D design costs of the custom chips the Japanese used to put the Americans out of business. Many old organs and keyboards have 8080, 8086, 80186, 6800 and a whole bunch of PIC ICs in them. I can still fix them because I can get them, unlike the custom ICs no longer available because the OEMs ran out of them. Japanese companies think anything, even a $25,000 theatre organ, is a throw-away piece after 4-5 years. You don't see many antique Toyotas and Datsuns because the parts are non-existant. That's very smart on the marketing front. Parts for my 1973 Mercedes 220 diesel are easy to find. So, we throw a lot of Japanese organs and keyboards out, while replacing plate resistors, tubes and caps in the old Hammonds everyone loves....(c; -- Larry Article: 322440 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. From: Larry References: <5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05> <1126500614.672833.248720@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 08:06:09 -0400 "jm" wrote in news:DGcVe.34322$Tf5.29426@newsread1.mlpsca01.us.to.verio.net: > In Scientific.Electronics.Basics I think it was, there was a very > recent thread on the beginnings of home computing. They touched on the > 8080, SWTP, Altair, and so on. May want to check it out - if > interested. > > jm > > Over on alt.binaries.movies.divx you can download "The Pirates of Silicon Valley" someone posted about a week ago. It is all about Bill Gates, Paul Allen, Steven Jobs and the other pioneers in home computing. It's a great movie for those interested in the box that's taken over our lives. Bill Gates was involved with Altair's operating system. Wait til you see how he DIDN'T write any of it! To watch it, download Videolan for free from http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ Take a look at the genius French students who wrote it while you're there. It refreshes your thoughts about young people. It was a school project that got out of hand...(c; -- Larry Article: 322441 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "george conklin" References: <1F0Ve.10417$_84.1836@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> <7_0Ve.8684$c27.2624@trndny01> Subject: Re: Edison Mainspring Repair Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:18:28 GMT "Mark Robinson" wrote in message news:7_0Ve.8684$c27.2624@trndny01... > > "george conklin" wrote in message > news:1F0Ve.10417$_84.1836@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... >> >> "Mark Robinson" wrote in message >> news:Cw0Ve.11855$ck6.578@trndny05... >> > Hi All, >> > >> > My Edison Home player ran into a problem the other day. The 19 tooth >> > brass >> > gear failed and as a result, the mainspring rapidly unwound. I >> > replaced >> > the >> > gear and decided to strip and clean the motor since I had things apart. > I >> > did not tear into the mainspring. Once I had everything back together, > I >> > realized that the winding shaft was not engaging the mainspring. I >> > decided >> > to pull apart the spring to clean and re-grease. After doing this, I >> > still >> > cannot get the inner coil to engage the widing shaft. I suspect that > the >> > slotted hole is now too large. I am having no luck getting access to > the >> > inner end of the spring to anneal and drill a new slot. It seems very >> > hard >> > to manipulate. Does anybody have any tips or tricks that might help? >> > I >> > am >> > better off just getting a new spring from APSCO? If I do, does the >> > replacement spring come with the slots already fabricated? Thanks in >> > advance for any help. >> > >> > Regards, >> > >> > Mark >> > >> > >> >> I had APSCO replace my mainspring after it broke. But they also noted >> that the reason why it broke was probably that the gear connected to the >> barrel had failed, allowing the spring to unwind quickly. Who knows > which >> caused which. You mainspring might have unwound quickly and the >> vibration >> caused the gear to fail from the vibration. Possible? I'd just send the >> barrel to APSCO and let them do the whole job. >> >> > > > Hi George, > > Thanks for the quick response and info. I'll give them a call on Monday > and > see if I should just let them do the whole thing. I'm not against doing > it > myself, but you may be right in this case. > > Mark > After posting I remembered someting I did when I was still high school. I had a portable Orthophonic with a broken spring. I found it was at the center. Not knowing a lot at the time, I carefully pulled out the broken piece, which was small. Then I drilled a small hole through the spring and center post and put in a small screw. I did all this without taking the spring out of the barrel, just the end. I did not know at the time this was not an official repair, but it worked as long as I had the unit. I left it at home when I went off to college and my father sold it at a yard sale years later since I had lost interest in such things at that stage of my life. However, I kept my Edisons and still have them. My interest in Victors is still minimal, although I do have a portable Orthophonic again. Somene else kept his in better shape!!! Article: 322442 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> <12kai15l217bvi38vkruti278t09fg0kie@4ax.com> Subject: Re: antenna lead in wire Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:45:23 -0230 "philsvintageradios" wrote in message news:12kai15l217bvi38vkruti278t09fg0kie@4ax.com... > On Sun, 11 Sep 2005 19:48:25 -0230, "Terry" > wrote: > >> >>"philsvintageradios" wrote in message >>news:6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com... >>> >>> I have seen the old type of antenna kits , which supplied a flat 2 >>> wire cable to go through the old wooden type of window frame. >>> >>> Nowadays we have so much interference in our homes with electrical >>> devices. it seems to me it would make more sense to use a coaxial >>> cable for this. >>> >>> Is cablevision wire appropriate for running an antenna wire ? or is >>> the resistance too high? >>> >>Looking at this OP I can't figure out if it's question about a flat twin >>lead connection to a TV antenna for a TV receiver or a lead in for a radio >>receiver's outside short wave, broadcast band and/or possibly FM band >>antenna? >> >>Anyway, regardless of frequency RF feed lines work best if they are >>properly >>impedance matched; at both ends. Namely where the antenna connects to the >>feed line (be it flat win or co-ax) and again at the receiver. >> >>I understand that lengths of co-ax (or twin lead) can introduce >>significant >>capacity across/between the two conductors because they are so close >>together and, well, co-axial to each other! >> >>For example RG58 is listed as having a capacitance of around 30 micro >>micro >>farads per foot. So even 33 feet of it has about 100 mmfd. A typical radio >>tuning capacitor 'might' have a fully meshed (maximum) capacitance of, say >>345 to 500 mmfd. So that 33 feet could easily detune the front end of a >>radio receiver; all depending how it is connected? >> >>So what is the question? TV or radio? >> > > sorry I didn't specify. this would be for old radios. mostly AM , but > it would be nice to get some short wave as well. > I am in the city, so my antenna can't exceed , say 100 feet in one > direction. > > maybe these devices can be made adjustable to find the optimum ratio > somehow? > > Phil > Phil: Your question about using a coax transmission line for receiving is a good one. I've got some RG-58 up to a wire from my chimney to some trees; trying to get it above and a bit away from my electrical house noises. At the antenna end I've got a hand wound untuned matching coil (auto transformer), which doesn't work very well and needs more work. I don't have any experience and am unfamiliar with metal toroids and such. At the receiver end I connect it to an old short wave military radio which has an input suitable for co-ax. I think members of the group, more experienced than can advise how to 'impedance match' your antenna (which I gather is a 'Random length wire' not especially made for any particular frequency, but able to be mounted a bit further away from houses/buildings etc., to your co-ax feed line; also to match the feed line to your radio. I've gathered here that different types of radios may have different inputs. Even so many radios with good sensitivity often work very well even when hooked up (any old way) e.g. with a few feet of wire over the bedpost. I've got a Realistic clipped to the metal curtain rod! But with its sensitivity it also picks up everything else in the forms of the clicks and buzzes emitted by non-radio gear. I've got a non rechargeable Remington shaver for example that 'clicks', all the time even when switched on! I certainly agree with you about interference (RFI, radio frequency interference) and am surprised that products, ranging from light/lamp dimmers, fluorescent lights, shavers, computers and the host of other gadgets we humans love to use, are permitted to be sold by the various administrations responsible; The FCC in the USA for example. RFI often bad on AM broadcast and short wave bands. Anecdote: The matter of using co-ax came up in the Eddystone User Group magazine during the last couple of years. Someone wrote that were advised to put their aerial (antenna) at the bottom of their garden and use co-ax as the 'lead in'. to their Eddystone communications receiver. They got about 80 feet of coax, hooked it up directly at both ends and got very poor results. I recall that later a radio amateur friend, also an Eddystone aficionado, helped the writer to arrange some matching devices. As another example; radio amateurs usually have to be careful with the 'matching' of their antenna system to avoid power loss problems with their out going/transmitted signal, by ensuring that it reaches the antenna to be 'broadcast' and not dissipated in ill matched feed lines and connections. It also ensures they can 'receive' signals! Radio amateurs transmit and receive on frequency bands specified by international agreements so can construct specifically for those. In the same manner matching to antenna and feed lines to the extent possible over a wide range of frequencies should benefit us listeners. And minimize that da*n RFI! Oops. Sorry this is so lengthy. Article: 322443 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert McLean" References: <43245064.B2B18EFE@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: OT Time travel Message-ID: <9NeVe.1137$1G4.150299@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 08:46:59 -0400 "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:43245064.B2B18EFE@earthlink.net... > Robert McLean wrote: >> >> Ok, its been over a week now, standard earth time, I think, since your >> post, >> so maybe I can ask this now without spoiling the fun, but How did you >> do >> that ?? > > You change the date on your computer. If your news server doesn't > use its own time stamp it will be posted with whatever time and date > your computer is set to display. > > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Ah, too simple. Thanks. Article: 322444 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Today's Freebie haul Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 06:57:10 -0600 Message-ID: <3649-43257B26-730@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: I`ll make a deal wit ya Steve`y . Get rid of all our computers and move to a beautifull island with 5 beautifull women where there are no phone lines or internet connections of any kind and i will send you the stuff . Article: 322445 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net> <1126361155.224689.307120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Health problems of old technicians? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:20:34 -0230 "Steven" wrote in message news:1126361155.224689.307120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > Carter-K8VT wrote: >> I guess we won't worry about burns from blobs of hot solder flicked from >> the soldering gun... ;-) > Nah; they look just like my 'Liver spots'. Terry Article: 322446 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <21133-4324C8E5-722@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Today's Freebie haul Message-ID: <2JeVe.1131$1G4.149754@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 10:12:47 -0230 My first reaction to the OP was "Yum"; with a jealous overtone to it! Then; "Ken G." wrote, in part, in message news:21133-4324C8E5-722@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... > Now room for new stuff :-) > You mean "More, new, old stuff". Have fun. :-) :-) Terry PS. I occasionally, as last Thursday, go to the dump/tip/trash pile (whatever is the jargon in your country). I'm constantly amazed at how much and what we waste and throw away, a constant stream of vehicles dumping stuff that I could spend a lifetime reusing. For example, right where I backed up my pickup about 100 strips of used cedar wood about 5 feet long. Some broken in the middle. Not s'posed to, but I scooped a few into my truck. Cedar! Ideal for making that garden trellis for a grape plant (Yes; a grape bush in this part of Canada eh?) that I've been experimenting with. Prob less than hour with my bench saw, lovely aroma that cedar, and I'll have a trellis that won't rot too much and will look nicer than some plastic thing! And if the grape plant doesn't mature I'll plant flowers instead. This is a minor example; but should not the principle be recycle/reuse etc. At that dump they throw away a enough wood and products made from wood to heat our city hall every day. Wood that for the last fifty years that I have visited that dump has been just slowly rotting, layer upon layer, into the ground releasing its carbon dioxide into the atmosphere anyway. I know I'll be criticised for this; but if we exported 'our trash', free, to other countries that desperately need help they could possibly use a considerable portion of it as a relief measure. Sorry about the rant! Article: 322447 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Computer help Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 07:01:34 -0600 Message-ID: <3649-43257C2E-733@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Yep you heard me right . ARF is down so i cant use their clubhouse for this grosly off topic . I ended up with a computer in a trade deal and have no idea how to use it . Does anyone here wish to coach me through emails ( hundreds of them ) or can send me to a good NG where decent people can help a computer-brain-dead person . Article: 322448 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <7dp5i1lqrhgkbja1838v6nvu7t1kd40sb5@4ax.com> Subject: Re: While ARF is being restored... Message-ID: <6AfVe.23913$eW1.424211@wagner.videotron.net> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 09:41:17 -0400 "Steve J" a écrit dans le message > Some of my best friends are squirrels! > This little one spent the winter in my office with me when he was a > baby: > http://stevenjohnson.com/pictures/5.html Had dozen of squirrels around the house when I was young. They even get inside the house to get food thanks to Mom. I remember Dad working on the garage and having two jump on his shoulders and look for food (he used to put peanuts on his shoulder, sitting on the couch at home and waiting for them to come in). That was something to see. Syl Article: 322449 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> <12kai15l217bvi38vkruti278t09fg0kie@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:41:30 GMT In article <12kai15l217bvi38vkruti278t09fg0kie@4ax.com>, philsvintageradiosREMOVE@shaw.ca says... > > > >maybe these devices can be made adjustable to find the optimum ratio >somehow? > >Phil Phil... are you listening?.. perhaps I made it sound too complicated? #1 you need.. RG-6 or RG-59 coax #2 you need TWO 9 to 1 Un-Un's ... see below #3 you need a bunch of wire for your antenna... see below #4 two ground rods... one where antenna starts the other where coax comes into house... ------------------------------- definition of the Un-Un thats an unbalanced to unbalanced broadband transformer with an impedance ratio of 9 to 1 Definition of bunch of wire.... any size that will hold up in your weather... it need NOT be in a straight line... you said 100 foot max as your on a city lot... so go around the outside perimeter of your lot and maybe you have 300-400 feet... height isn't important.. nice to have it high enough that you can walk under it.... these 9 to 1 Un-Un's one needs to be totally weatherproofed as its outside... the other one inside doesn't have to be waterproof. I asked my buddy yesterday for a quote on making a few of these critters up for the guys that are interested... below is the information on the ones that another of my local buddies make.... built by Gary KD9SV called SV Products... see notes from me below Gary's Explanation.......... -------------------------------------------------- 9:1 Antenna Matching Transformers 9-1 Antenna Matching Transformers Beverage antennas typically have from 450-600 ohm feed point impedances. Using a 9-1 transformer and either a 50 or 75 coax, you can efficiently match your receiving antenna for maximum performance. These handy transformers come in three different styles: either a BNC or F female connector or the isolated ground design with a BNC connector. To use them, you attach the red post to the antenna and black to ground. Then hook up your feedline. Units are potted for protection from the weather. Models available with BNC connector, F connector, and Isolated grounds Catalog # Item Description Unit Price SV-AMTB 9:1 Antenna Matching Transformer - BNC connector $25.00 SV-AMTF 9:1 Antenna Matching Transformer - F connector $25.00 SV-AMTI 9:1 Antenna Matching Transformer - Isolated grounds $25.00 -------------------------------------------------- for the Ham Radio market we only need one of these things... the outside box.... and either the first one or the 2nd one depending on whether you want BNC connector or F connector on it... you don't need the isolated ground style............ next you need an identical unit on the inside end of the coax for the old radios to get the impedance back up to what the radio wants to see....... but this inside unit can be made a bit cheaper as it ...... doesn't need to be waterproof ... that means that two things on it can be different... first you don't need the potting compound... and you don't need the pretty red and black binding posts... just a two terminal terminals strip is fine.... so the inside unit should be a few bucks cheaper..... the inside unit could also be made to have two or three outputs.... "Splitter" ... so that you can feed more than one radio with it... John k9uwa Article: 322450 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT Time travel From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <43245064.B2B18EFE@earthlink.net> <9NeVe.1137$1G4.150299@news20.bellglobal.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:45:01 GMT In article <9NeVe.1137$1G4.150299@news20.bellglobal.com>, robert.mclean1@sympatico.ca says... > > > >> Michael A. Terrell >> Central Florida > >Ah, too simple. Thanks. > > If I stand in front of it Michael can you take 20 years off of me? John k9uwa Article: 322451 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net> <2pDUe.21266$sw6.114@fed1read05> Subject: Re: Health problems of old technicians? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:09:02 -0230 "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96CDE69312ACBnoone@63.223.7.253... > Not near as good as a shoe-store flouroscope was in realtime, radiating > through your feet, through the phosphor screen on its way through your > brains staring for hours at the bones in your feet, the inside of the > radio > you placed in the foot holes to see what it looked like, your buddy's > hand, > etc.... One of my grade-school pal's father owned the shoe store! Our > film badges would have been BLACK!...BURNED! > -- > Larry - Glowing in the dark, especially during thunderstorms... > Gosh Larry; you bring back memories! As a child I remember that machine in a shoe store on the 'Promenade' in Cheltenham England; before WWII. And yes you could wiggle your toes and see them move! And, completely OT to this thread, you could put your ear on the step leading up to the machine and hear the river running through/under the basement of the shoe-store building! I understood name of the town came from fact that the river Chelt and the river Ham joined at that point. Hence, I guess, "Chelt and ham" or "Chelt on ham". Full of retired British 'pukka sahib' type Indian army officers it was 'invaded' by the US army as they staged for the Italian and later D Day campaigns and was never the same again! US military police (Snowdrops as they were called because of their white belts, spats and, IIRC white helmets?) would patrol the main street and stop US vehicles and personnel to check their orders. Very different from the English 'Bobby', possibly on his big black bicycle! And the 'Americans' were friendly, generous and helpful, even though they were on a serious mission; they had lots of vehicles, materiel and gear including radios; but I was a bit young, until after the war to appreciate that. Now, later in life, with, incidentally, three healthy normal children presently aged 44 to 26, I go to the dentist. For a minor X-Ray, they put a lead shield over my nether parts and go stand in the next room to press the button! For a picture of one tooth! Memories! We had a big wooden cabinet British HMV four valve TRF radio and besides the BBC, used to listen to William Joyce ('Lord Haw, haw', as he was nicknamed), broadcasting propaganda from Germany. Born in the US he claimed to have an Irish grandfather, but since a young child had lived in England holding a British passport. The Allies hanged him after the war for 'treason'. Japanese 'Tokyo Rose' broadcasts directing dis-information and rumours ed to US forces were, I understand, something similar. There were no limitations that I ever heard of about listening to or having radios confiscated in Britain. People would openly joke about Lord Haw haw, saying "That's the third time he's sunk such and such a ship"! On the continent of Europe (France, Belgium, Holland etc.) which were invaded by the Germans, radios were confiscated by Nazi orders. Nevertheless many secret radios were used, it was only a short distance across The Channel or North Sea even a crystal set would work. One Dutchman allegedly had a radio built into his prosthetic wooden leg! There is even a story of a supposedly cut off submarine cable on which a telephone circuit was secretly kept working between Holland and England. Technicians are always smart! Article: 322452 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Robinson" References: <1F0Ve.10417$_84.1836@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> <7_0Ve.8684$c27.2624@trndny01> Subject: Re: Edison Mainspring Repair Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:52:23 GMT Hi George, I would consider that if I could find an easy way to get at the center coil. The spring is so stiff that I can't pull the end out to cut, anneal, and drill new holes. I've been thinking about making some kind of tool to allow this. I'll see what the folks at APSCO have to say today. Mark "george conklin" wrote in message news:omeVe.10669$_84.2773@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > After posting I remembered someting I did when I was still high school. I > had a portable Orthophonic with a broken spring. I found it was at the > center. Not knowing a lot at the time, I carefully pulled out the broken > piece, which was small. Then I drilled a small hole through the spring and > center post and put in a small screw. I did all this without taking the > spring out of the barrel, just the end. I did not know at the time this was > not an official repair, but it worked as long as I had the unit. I left it > at home when I went off to college and my father sold it at a yard sale > years later since I had lost interest in such things at that stage of my > life. However, I kept my Edisons and still have them. My interest in > Victors is still minimal, although I do have a portable Orthophonic again. > Somene else kept his in better shape!!! > > > Article: 322453 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43259C00.6E258A94@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Today's Freebie haul References: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:17:14 GMT toxcrusadr wrote: > > Ken (and everyone else): Try freecycle.org, sign up for your local > group, and offer stuff on there. PLEASE don't send more radio chassis, > Advent speakers and records to the landfill. For God's sake man! > > PS there's always the scrap yard for the metals, they are awful hard on > the environment to mine and smelt. > > Cheers, > > Tox Good luck with freecycle. The Nazis that run the local freecycle accused me of running a booth at the local flea market to sell things I received from people around here after they saw me trying to buy a couple computer parts from a used computer dealer there. Then they went on a wild spree of accusing others of dirty deeds and booted almost half of the members for one reason or another. Like a woman who asked for something that was posted, then had her truck catch on fire. It was a total loss, so she asked if it was possible, under the circumstances for it to be dropped off. Their next trick was to delete the group from Yahoo to eliminate all record of their dirty tricks and reopen under a new name a couple hours later. The local group was under total moderation which is against corporate rules. I was never able to post a request that made it to the group. On the other hand, every time I offered something, it was posted and most items were taken. Beware of freecycle. Read the corporate website carefully if you are thinking about joining a local group. They have a lot of rules, and a lot they don't tell you about until they decide you've broken one of their unwritten rules. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322454 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43259C51.AFD659A6@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Computer help References: <3649-43257C2E-733@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:18:35 GMT "Ken G." wrote: > > Yep you heard me right . ARF is down so i cant use their clubhouse for > this grosly off topic . > I ended up with a computer in a trade deal and have no idea how to use > it . Does anyone here wish to coach me through emails ( hundreds of them > ) or can send me to a good NG where decent people can help a > computer-brain-dead person . You can E-mail me with any questions, Ken. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322455 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43259C90.2EA13102@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: OT Time travel References: <43245064.B2B18EFE@earthlink.net> <9NeVe.1137$1G4.150299@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:19:38 GMT "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote: > > In article <9NeVe.1137$1G4.150299@news20.bellglobal.com>, > robert.mclean1@sympatico.ca says... > > > > > > > >> Michael A. Terrell > >> Central Florida > > > >Ah, too simple. Thanks. > > > > > If I stand in front of it Michael can you take 20 years off of me? > > John k9uwa Sadly, no, unless it falls on you and takes your last 20 years. :( -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322456 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Today's Freebie haul References: <21133-4324C8E5-722@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1126535213.315186.64080@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43259C00.6E258A94@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <33hVe.5615$Gh.3888@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:22:39 GMT Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Good luck with freecycle. The Nazis that run the local freecycle > accused me of running a booth at the local flea market to sell things I > received from people around here after they saw me trying to buy a > couple computer parts from a used computer dealer there. You're probably better off with www.craigslist.org Especially good about it, it has locality subsections. Nobody is going to drive from Kansas to pick up a free plastic patio set in Los Angeles. ;-) Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 322457 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <7uWdnVAUV-VIHLneRVn-hQ@comcast.com> Subject: Re: 1939 Silvertone model 3127 Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 11:22:40 -0400 Message-ID: <43259dec$0$3740$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C5B78C.4984EDC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Although it is nicely done, I would say it is most definitely home made. = If it was factory I would think there would have been some sort of dial = bezel and most certainly something around the station selection buttons. Somebody certainly did spend a lot of time on it though. Larry ------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C5B78C.4984EDC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Although it is nicely done, I would say = it is most=20 definitely home made. If it was factory I would think there would have = been some=20 sort of dial bezel and most certainly something around the station = selection=20 buttons.
 
Somebody certainly did spend a lot of = time on it=20 though.
 
Larry
 
------=_NextPart_000_002F_01C5B78C.4984EDC0-- Article: 322458 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43259F1C.4154DA2B@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Today's Freebie haul References: <21133-4324C8E5-722@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1126535213.315186.64080@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43259C00.6E258A94@earthlink.net> <33hVe.5615$Gh.3888@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:30:31 GMT Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > > Good luck with freecycle. The Nazis that run the local freecycle > > accused me of running a booth at the local flea market to sell things I > > received from people around here after they saw me trying to buy a > > couple computer parts from a used computer dealer there. > > You're probably better off with www.craigslist.org > Especially good about it, it has locality subsections. > > Nobody is going to drive from Kansas to pick up a free > plastic patio set in Los Angeles. ;-) Freecycle is thousands of local area groups. The problem is that corporate doesn't listen when the local moderators turn into nazis. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322459 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43259F95.836646F0@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: 1939 Silvertone model 3127 References: <7uWdnVAUV-VIHLneRVn-hQ@comcast.com> <43259dec$0$3740$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:32:32 GMT > Larry Fowkes wrote: > > Although it is nicely done, I would say it is most definitely home > made. If it was factory I would think there would have been some sort > of dial bezel and most certainly something around the station > selection buttons. > > Somebody certainly did spend a lot of time on it though. > > Larry What's will all the HTML messages on the group lately? The text is too small to read without changing my news reader's configuration. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322460 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:39:18 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05> In Larry writes: >REAL computers have toggle switches for input and >light bulbs for output....step....step....step....step. And rotary convertors for power. :) {370/148} -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322461 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05> <1126492297.e0f610633cba9d8ba7ce3411540e2172@teranews> In Larry writes: >The first hard drive I saw was a huge drum. We were allowed to look into >the room where it was whirring away, but not allowed to go in there because >ANY vibration made its heads crash into the drum. We were still >impressed... What you saw was a paging drum. A big cylinder of magnetic media, about the size of a small wastebasket, covered with read/write heads. The heads are stationary, with any spot of magnetic information only a few degrees of rotation away from a head. The heads can't crash. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322462 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4325A472.24D2E828@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. References: <5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05> <1126492297.e0f610633cba9d8ba7ce3411540e2172@teranews> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:53:17 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > > In Larry writes: > > >The first hard drive I saw was a huge drum. We were allowed to look into > >the room where it was whirring away, but not allowed to go in there because > >ANY vibration made its heads crash into the drum. We were still > >impressed... > > What you saw was a paging drum. A big cylinder of magnetic media, > about the size of a small wastebasket, covered with read/write heads. > The heads are stationary, with any spot of magnetic information only > a few degrees of rotation away from a head. The heads can't crash. > > -- > Tim Mullen > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. > ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- That sounds a lot like the analog drum recorders they used to use at telephone C.O.s to record outgoing messages on. The one we had at Ft. Rucker in the early '70s. it had multiple heads so the message would start on a different output every couple seconds and it could handle 200 connections per output. It was used to store weather and military alert data so all you had to do was call the phone number from anywhere in the world. The routine maintenance was to clean the heads once a week. I'm sure it has been replaced by a bulky and expensive voice mail system. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322463 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <7uWdnVAUV-VIHLneRVn-hQ@comcast.com> <43259dec$0$3740$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> Subject: Re: 1939 Silvertone model 3127 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:54:17 GMT "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:OdSdnWuoY73zN7jeRVn-hA@comcast.com... > Jim just phoned me and says there is another one out there... > according to > the Silvertone website > > www.sfhobbies.com/sfhobbies/radio > > so HMMM, very interesting. I still think this was a very limited > item, > possibly a prototype deal that some cabinet maker was proposing to > Silvertone... you never know. The fact that the cabinet is marked > with a > unique model # is most interesting. > I don't see any picture on that site of that radio, did you actually find it? I checked that site when I was looking for a model 3127, before Jim decided it was actually a 6127. I went back now, and I still don't see any pictures that match his cabinet. All I see is a reference to a model number, and the words "Not in our file" where the picture should be. And I still don't understand this cabinet at all. My opinion was that it was a homemade cabinet of 1950's-1960's styling, possibly housing the chassis that someone originally took from a different cabinet, and marked the model number into the wood so the service information could be located later if needed. Nothing I've seen so far has convinced me this may be original. jim menning Article: 322464 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4325B40C.8361D5B2@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: 1939 Silvertone model 3127 References: <7uWdnVAUV-VIHLneRVn-hQ@comcast.com> <43259dec$0$3740$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> <43259F95.836646F0@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:59:55 GMT Phil Nelson wrote: > > > What's will all the HTML messages on the group lately? The text is > > too small to read without changing my news reader's configuration. > > If a post is in HTML and you reply, then I believe Outlook Express will use > HTML in your reply, even if you have chosen Plain Text as your News Sending > Format in Tools Options/Send. > > You can prevent this by going to Tools Options/Send and de-selecting the > option "Reply to messages using the format in which they were sent." > > Phil Nelson I use Netscape 4.78 for the newsgroups. The first thing I do is set the preferences for bottom postiong and text only. I have a filter for E-mail that moves all HTML based e-mail to a separate folder so it can be scanned before reading it. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322465 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: 1939 Silvertone model 3127 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:01:13 GMT "Jim King" <62-gt-hawk@comcast.net> wrote in message news:GIadnRBsuus9_bnenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com... I had a number of responses to an earlier post about this radio. Several people suggested that is was a home built but a good one. I have several radios made in this era and it is consistent with there type of constructions. The number 3127d is etched in the bottom of the cabinet and according the schematic it is a valid model number. Attached is my website with photos they are down the side or you can click on pictures to view them. What I'm trying to figure is what I have here. http://www.msnusers.com/JimsWebPhotos Jim King Please give us some pictures from the back and the bottom sides of this cabinet. jim menning Article: 322466 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <7uWdnVAUV-VIHLneRVn-hQ@comcast.com> <43259dec$0$3740$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> Subject: Re: 1939 Silvertone model 3127 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:09:58 GMT "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:IuOdnXsE28JCKbjeRVn-tw@giganews.com... > > Doesn't anybody have the Stein Silvertone catalog book that I > mentioned earlier? If it shows a model 6127 -- whatever it is -- > then we'll know for sure. > Been there, done that, not in there. jim menning Article: 322467 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" Subject: FS Tube Breadboarding? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:40:21 -0700 Breadboarding anyone? Picked up some octal sockets mounted on Plexiglas bases with each pin connection carried out to beautiful screw terminals. I can't use them all, but before putting them up for "that" auction place, thought I'd see if there's interest among my favourite bunch. I'll post a photo on a.b.p.r. I dunno how much... five bucks each plus postage? Nelson Article: 322468 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1126491935.cd01789162497fc08a9c1c3049e89d99@teranews> <4324F3E8.59A0B300@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: FS - isolation transformer anyone??? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 14:04:25 -0400 "Michael A. Terrell" a opiné > That's a CVT isn't it? I've never seen a straight isolation > transformer form Oneac, just isolation/CVT units made to protect > computers. The output isn't a sine wave on the ones I've seen. > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida OneAC _do_ have straight isolation transformers, I used them quite often for sensitive Point-Of-Sale systems. See here: http://www.oneac-powercom.com/oneac-power-conditioners.html Syl Article: 322469 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: isolation transformer. maybe the dumbest question ever Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:25:56 -0600 Message-ID: i think i understand the concept of an isolation transformer. a 1:1 ratio transformer to physically disconnect your power supply from the line voltage. but what good is this going to do? how is this going to save me or my gear? is the idea that the transformer burns up before you do? randy Article: 322470 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: isolation transformer. maybe the dumbest question ever References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:45:29 GMT xrongor wrote: > i think i understand the concept of an isolation transformer. a 1:1 ratio > transformer to physically disconnect your power supply from the line > voltage. > > but what good is this going to do? how is this going to save me or my gear? > is the idea that the transformer burns up before you do? The short answer is this: Normally, one side of the AC power line is connected to ground. When you're working on a transformerless chassis, this means you have a 50% chance of having the HOT side of the AC power line connected to the chassis. Fine and well if you don't touch it and something else at the same time. Using an isolation transformer allows you to have an AC power source that isn't connected to anything else. So, among other things, it's safe to use a scope or an other piece of test equipment and connect the ground lead of a probe to the chassis without flames and smoke errupting. Or getting shocked/killed etc. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 322471 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Computer help References: <3649-43257C2E-733@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:09:11 -0400 There's an ng called 24 hour computer help, or something like that, scan your news groups for it. Ken Ken G. wrote: > Yep you heard me right . ARF is down so i cant use their clubhouse for > this grosly off topic . > I ended up with a computer in a trade deal and have no idea how to use > it . Does anyone here wish to coach me through emails ( hundreds of them > ) or can send me to a good NG where decent people can help a > computer-brain-dead person . > Article: 322472 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: FS Tube Breadboarding? References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:13:47 -0400 They must have cost a fortune to make, must have been a Gov. contract. Ken Nelson Gietz wrote: > Breadboarding anyone? > Picked up some octal sockets mounted on Plexiglas bases with each pin > connection carried out to beautiful screw terminals. I can't > use them all, but before putting them up for "that" auction place, > thought I'd see if there's interest among my favourite bunch. > I'll post a photo on a.b.p.r. I dunno how much... five bucks each plus > postage? > Nelson > > > Article: 322473 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <1126551207.094829.21910@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: isolation transformer. maybe the dumbest question ever Message-ID: <_skVe.1361$1G4.186417@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:45:15 -0230 "Steven" wrote in message news:1126551207.094829.21910@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > That will ruin a good day, Eeyore droned. > So you read (or were read to) Christopher Robin eh? Today's generation probabaly think it is a 'Disney' character! Article: 322474 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: isolation transformer. maybe the dumbest question ever Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:35:55 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1126551469.562894.233020@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> ok. that makes sense. but doesnt a gfci breaker/outlet provide better protection against the same type of danger (stray path to ground)? although it seems you still need the transformer to take certain types of measurments without tripping the gfci as jeff mentioned... and lastly, is there a cheap source for these transformers? some common junk store item you can scavange the tranny out of maybe? if i look for one on ebay or wherever, what are the key specs? thx randy > Randy: > > As Jeff says, the Isolation Transformer isolates (separates) everything > downside of it from a natural ground. This means that you cannot get a > shock from a piece of isolated equipment to a water pipe, or a concrete > floor or some other 'natural' ground. > > HOWEVER: > > If you connect any piece of UN ISOLATED mains-powered equipment to your > work or test piece, you may create a ground path through that > equipment, or introduce an un-isolated source of high voltage. > > AND: > > If you insert yourself in the current path, you will get a shock. > > Isolation transformers protect against one (1) type of danger or fault. > They do not protect against a lack of common sense, stupidity or > deliberate idiocy. They are the very first piece of equipment that > anyone in this hobby should have, they are critically important, but > they are not a panacea against all 'dangers-electrical'. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > From adouglasatgis.net Tue Sep 13 15:46:26 EDT 2005 Article: 322475 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Final Kutztown Roll Call Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:10:01 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <1126266605.273945.20840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11i48v5k8hhc04a@corp.supernews.com> <11i6fcgmsupfb43@corp.supernews.com> <1126548166.419479.76020@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-997.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:322475 Hi, >Bruce Mager of waves is also going to the Kutztown meet. He'll be there >friday with an assortment of stuff and his wife. :) > >Charlotte This is a swap meet, right? So what's he looking for, in exchange? :) Alan Article: 322476 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Health problems of old technicians? From: Larry References: <_fidncGkK_ncQ7_eRVn-iA@bright.net> <2pDUe.21266$sw6.114@fed1read05> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:50:13 -0400 "Terry" wrote in news:NxfVe.1171$1G4.156528@news20.bellglobal.com: > William Joyce ('Lord Haw, haw' I have some MP3 files of Lord Haw Haw's wireless programmes. You can find lots of WW2 radio recordings on alt.binaries.sounds.radio.oldtime and alt.binaries.sound.radio.oldtime. Others may be posted with the music on alt.binaries.sounds.78rpm-era which also has a lot of WW2 propaganda music >from both sides of the war. If you'd like to hear Lord Haw Haw, I can post it to the radio pictures group for you... Thank you for the first-hand knowledge post. One of those Yanks in the camps was my father, US Army. I'm what happened when he got home from N Africa and Italy. The schrapnel from the M-1 tank grenade, that exploded >from a defect on the end of his rifle, is still in his left leg, the leg out front as he aimed it at one of Rommel's tanks. I'm lucky to be here at all! -- Larry Article: 322477 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: isolation transformer. maybe the dumbest question ever From: Larry References: <1126551207.094829.21910@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 16:52:22 -0400 "Steven" wrote in news:1126551207.094829.21910@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com: > That will ruin a good day, Eeyore droned. > > Those with burned scope probes are the ones NOT responding, trying to keep the faux pas under wraps...(c; -- Larry Article: 322478 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "george conklin" References: <1F0Ve.10417$_84.1836@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> <7_0Ve.8684$c27.2624@trndny01> Subject: Re: Edison Mainspring Repair Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:56:11 GMT > "george conklin" wrote in message > news:omeVe.10669$_84.2773@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > >> After posting I remembered someting I did when I was still high school. >> I >> had a portable Orthophonic with a broken spring. I found it was at the >> center. Not knowing a lot at the time, I carefully pulled out the broken >> piece, which was small. Then I drilled a small hole through the spring > and >> center post and put in a small screw. I did all this without taking the >> spring out of the barrel, just the end. I did not know at the time this > was >> not an official repair, but it worked as long as I had the unit. I left >> it >> at home when I went off to college and my father sold it at a yard sale >> years later since I had lost interest in such things at that stage of my >> life. However, I kept my Edisons and still have them. My interest in >> Victors is still minimal, although I do have a portable Orthophonic >> again. >> Somene else kept his in better shape!!! >> "Mark Robinson" wrote in message news:HCgVe.20740$Qv6.1682@trndny04... > Hi George, > > I would consider that if I could find an easy way to get at the center > coil. > The spring is so stiff that I can't pull the end out to cut, anneal, and > drill new holes. I've been thinking about making some kind of tool to > allow > this. I'll see what the folks at APSCO have to say today. > > Mark > Mark, I just sneaked the middle end out and left the rest of the spring IN. Here is what I did: I heated the end red hot on the kitchen stove (gas flame), and drilled a hole in the detempered spring with an electric drill. The I did the same with the center piece (arbor, I think the name is). Then I put a small bolt through both, with a nut on one end, and pushed the end back where it belonged. I guess I am lucky I did not kill myself!!! But at age 15, what the heck. Not an official repair!! George Article: 322479 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: isolation transformer. maybe the dumbest question ever From: Larry References: <1126551469.562894.233020@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:04:42 -0400 "Peter Wieck" wrote in news:1126551469.562894.233020@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > Isolation transformers protect against one (1) type of danger or fault. > They do not protect against a lack of common sense, stupidity or > deliberate idiocy. They are the very first piece of equipment that > anyone in this hobby should have, they are critically important, but > they are not a panacea against all 'dangers-electrical'. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > > A whole LOT of unnecessary shocks and dangers would stop if EVERYONE were to install the proper GROUND FAULT INTERRUPTER breakers in their house panel! You can't get a shock in my house unless you get right across the line to neutral. Even then, there is enough leakage to ground, in most cases, to trip the little bugger. It only needs a difference of 7ma from hot to neutral to trip out. PS - This secret information was divulged by me to the Charleston Naval Shipyard and US Navy in a beneficial suggestion I wrote up and turned in back in the 1980s. Senior NAVSEA bureaucrats seemed amazed....amazed enough to award me $4200 in the benny sugg program for saving lives.....(c; I used to average 10 benny suggs a month with about 70% being adopted and paying rewards. Some, that were adopted, were quite bizarre by Navy standards.....things like putting an RF choke in SERIES with the DC ground strap to handrails on wooden minesweepers so the ground strap DIDN'T become a giant whip antenna putting thousands of volts of RF on the handrail every time some RM keyed the 500 watt AN/URC-32 HF transmitter on some bands....something Navy engineers were convinced wouldn't work (it did). Nothing like touching a grounded handrail and being knocked on your ass if you touched a nearby pipe with a different resonant frequency.... Everyone in my cal lab hated me and my GFI-enabled benches. The AC line filters in a LOT of Navy equipment had leaky caps that caused GFI trips when it was simply plugged in, without even turning them on....forcing them to replace the defective filters BEFORE there was a real short or fire. -- Larry Article: 322480 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4325EED0.3A618FFA@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: WTS 6BK4C tubes References: <1126553419.201303.84220@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126557670.199087.260400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:09:57 GMT toxcrusadr wrote: > > A high-voltage regulator for B&W TV's? Alas. > > Is there anyone who doesn't already have a box of em? Anybody? Or am > I missing something - is this the latest thing for making tube powered > Tasers? :-) They were used in color TVs, usually with the 3A3 HV rectifier and 2AV2 Focus rectifier. The 6BK4 was the tube involved in the color TVs that were emitting excessive X-rays. The later B and C versions were more reliable and built to prevent the X-ray problems. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322481 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4325F090.DBEAAF06@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FS Tube Breadboarding? References: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:17:24 GMT Ken wrote: > > They must have cost a fortune to make, must have been a Gov. contract. Ken They look like they were made for electronics courses they sold to high schools labs in the 50s and 60s. Labvoilt was one company that made a lot of stuff for those school labs. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322482 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: isolation transformer. maybe the dumbest question ever From: Larry References: <1126551469.562894.233020@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:18:20 -0400 "xrongor" wrote in news:dg4laq$a550$1@news3.infoave.net: > lastly, is there a cheap source for these transformers? Quick and dirty.....Two IDENTICAL power transformers, back to back. Drop the 115VAC to 12.6VAC, then hook the 12.6VAC to the second transformer causing its primary to have an ISOLATED 115VAC on it to drive the radio chassis. If the 12V winding is rated at 10A, you have a 120 watt isolation transformer. If you've got two big, ol' battery charger transformers, you gots more watts to play with. Any secondary voltage is ok as long as both transformers have the same voltage windings. If you know someone with access to power company pole transformers, you can hook two of them up and isolate the whole shop! Hook 220 and neutral to the house wiring, interconnect the 7200 or 14KV or 23KV feeders and hook the shop's breaker panel to the other transformer's 220/neutral output. Two 5KVA pole pigs will do ya. Just, please, stay away from that high voltage intermediate winding when it's on, ok? Outside in a cage to keep the neighbor's kids away from them would be a nice installation...(c; -- Larry Article: 322483 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. From: Larry References: <5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:25:04 -0400 Tim Mullen wrote in news:dg47f6$kpq$1@reader1.panix.com: > And rotary convertors for power. :) {370/148} > > The local Catholic Church once GAVE me a complete IBM Systems 32, complete with O/S, manufacturing software, bookkeeping software, inventory management, payroll, 8 dumb terminals, a huge band printer Z-fold paper just spewed out of. I tried and tried to find it a home. NOONE wanted it. So, I stripped the huge power supply capacitors, rectifiers, transformers and a souvenir huge hard drive out of it. The rest of it we ramped into my box van, then moved the ramp to a dumpster and summarily dumped several hundred thousand dollars in IBM hardware/software to its grave...... Pity. I didn't have the 3-phase, 440VAC to fire it up. Oh, well...(shrug) -- Larry Article: 322484 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4325F287.F87AF081@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FS - isolation transformer anyone??? References: <1126491935.cd01789162497fc08a9c1c3049e89d99@teranews> <4324F3E8.59A0B300@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:25:48 GMT Syl wrote: > > "Michael A. Terrell" a opiné > > > That's a CVT isn't it? I've never seen a straight isolation > > transformer form Oneac, just isolation/CVT units made to protect > > computers. The output isn't a sine wave on the ones I've seen. > > -- > > ? > > > > Michael A. Terrell > > Central Florida > > OneAC _do_ have straight isolation transformers, I used them > quite often for sensitive Point-Of-Sale systems. > > See here: > http://www.oneac-powercom.com/oneac-power-conditioners.html > > Syl Interesting. Like I said, all of the ones I have had produced a distorted sine wave output, and I was selling the used units to a guy that repaired TEC electronic cash registers. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322486 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4325F7B5.C4547A6D@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: 1939 Silvertone model 3127 References: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:47:54 GMT Steven wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > > What's will all the HTML messages on the group lately? The text is > > too small to read without changing my news reader's configuration. > > Why don't you just use the Google groups setup? If it's here, it's > posted here well before Usenet, and at least you should keep exploring > the alternative browsers until you finally see a Mozilla or other > type-based browser you like (but it's TRUE I like NONE) and find how to > implement it properly. Google groups is the least useful way for me to access usenet. I archive a couple percent of the messages to check out the links in them at a later time. I can download a couple thousand messages to read off line and go through them in a couple seconds each. I can probably read 2 or three times the messages this way as I can read a page of 25 messages from Google groups. Netscape allows me to save them in their original form in a folder for each newsgroup. I routinely read 23 newsgroups, and have an archive file for each one. Some groups have over 500 posts when I log on. As far as I'm concerned, Google Groups is only useful to find content in archived posts. > Most sites are using a minimum of 1024x768 as a default now, aren't > they? Also, I'll bet that regardless of what resolution you have, > Netscape has settings for test size just like IE and the defaults are > too small, but can you use the magnifying glass tool in Windows if you > are using Netscape? I run 1152 * 864 resolution. It works fine for me, except when someone uses HTML and picks a tiny font that is unreadable. Even worse is when they add a background and use colors that are hard to read. > No, I honestly don't know, Michael, that's why I ask. If you insist on > using 4.78, I'll insist on helping you adapt it or finding something > better. I have tried a lot of different usenet software, but I keep going back to Netscape 4.78. Mozilla is too much like I.E. for my taste. I.E. is only useful when I have to combine and decode a multiple part posting of a binary file. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322487 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: isolation transformer. maybe the dumbest question ever Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:30:02 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1126551469.562894.233020@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In Larry writes: >You can't get a shock in my house unless you get right across the >line to neutral. Or lean on your car. :) :) :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322488 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Janssen Subject: Re: FS Tube Breadboarding? References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 23:20:49 GMT Ken wrote: > They must have cost a fortune to make, must have been a Gov. contract. > Ken I see a lot of them in industrial equipment. The are used to provide sockets for plug-in relays. Bill k7NOM > > Nelson Gietz wrote: > >> Breadboarding anyone? >> Picked up some octal sockets mounted on Plexiglas bases with each pin >> connection carried out to beautiful screw terminals. I can't >> use them all, but before putting them up for "that" auction place, >> thought I'd see if there's interest among my favourite bunch. >> I'll post a photo on a.b.p.r. I dunno how much... five bucks each plus >> postage? >> Nelson >> >> >> > Article: 322489 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Radio Shack.....Getting more useless to us every day. Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 01:51:17 +0200 Message-ID: References: <5RLUe.21354$sw6.12054@fed1read05> <1126492297.e0f610633cba9d8ba7ce3411540e2172@teranews> Andy Cuffe wrote: > My laptop's Toshiba hard drive is running ok though. I hope it stays > that way since they don't offer a downloadable diagnostic utility like > every other hard drive manufacturer does. Andy, Information on official German Toshiba FAQ page: Toshiba did not sign a license of any of the diagnostic programs, but they recommend ONTRACK. Maybe any Ontrack diag release from an other manufacturer works. Information from c't magazine: Seagate, Maxtor and Hitachi diag progs seems to be accept harddrives >from other manufacturers, but Excelstors ESTest will not. Search for Freeware progs like HDD Health, HD Tune und DTemp. "Hitachi Feature Tool" may be able to talk detailed with your HD. Hope that helps. Kind Regards, Georg Article: 322490 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: isolation transformer. maybe the dumbest question ever Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:55:31 -0600 Message-ID: <25948-43261573-867@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <1126551469.562894.233020@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I have never used one but i dont use old grounded test equipment or have any need to touch 2 radio chassis both plugged in at the same time or touch pipes or stand on cement floors with no shoes on while working on a radio . I have one radio at a time on a desk in the house and use one digital meter to do repairs , nothing fancy and dont get shocked unless i bump something under the chassis just wrong . Article: 322491 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <4325F090.DBEAAF06@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: FS Tube Breadboarding? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:58:30 -0700 "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:4325F090.DBEAAF06@earthlink.net... > Ken wrote: > > > > They must have cost a fortune to make, must have been a Gov. contract. Ken > > > They look like they were made for electronics courses they sold to > high schools labs in the 50s and 60s. Labvoilt was one company that made > a lot of stuff for those school labs. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Yeah, they came with a number of plug-in relays... I was thinking it might be school lab stuff, but there's no labelling that I could see. The bottom piece of plexi is screwed into tapped holes, and the wire channels are all routed out. The relays showed a bit of moisture damage, but the base assemblies are in great condition except for one that was broken... so I get a small handful of real nice screw terminals and a socket from that one. Nelson Article: 322492 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Computer help Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 18:09:48 -0600 Message-ID: <25948-432618CC-873@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <1126552621.174972.304030@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Thanks ! Article: 322493 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Today's Freebie haul Message-ID: <617ci15cb597bpgphemk0mjebju9jjcnv9@4ax.com> References: <21133-4324C8E5-722@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1126535213.315186.64080@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43259C00.6E258A94@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:26:00 -0400 On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:17:14 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >toxcrusadr wrote: >> >> Ken (and everyone else): Try freecycle.org, sign up for your local >> group, and offer stuff on there. PLEASE don't send more radio chassis, >> Advent speakers and records to the landfill. For God's sake man! >> >> PS there's always the scrap yard for the metals, they are awful hard on >> the environment to mine and smelt. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Tox > > Good luck with freecycle. The Nazis that run the local freecycle >accused me of running a booth at the local flea market to sell things I >received from people around here after they saw me trying to buy a >couple computer parts from a used computer dealer there. > > Then they went on a wild spree of accusing others of dirty deeds and >booted almost half of the members for one reason or another. Like a >woman who asked for something that was posted, then had her truck catch >on fire. It was a total loss, so she asked if it was possible, under >the circumstances for it to be dropped off. Their next trick was to >delete the group from Yahoo to eliminate all record of their dirty >tricks and reopen under a new name a couple hours later. > > The local group was under total moderation which is against corporate >rules. I was never able to post a request that made it to the group. >On the other hand, every time I offered something, it was posted and >most items were taken. Beware of freecycle. Read the corporate website >carefully if you are thinking about joining a local group. They have a >lot of rules, and a lot they don't tell you about until they decide >you've broken one of their unwritten rules. I also had problems with freecycle. I really was just listing stuff to give away. I had plenty of folks that told me they were going to show up to get the stuff but nobody would follow through. I turns out that it is a good bit easier to haul stuff to goodwill than try to deal with folks on freecycle. Article: 322494 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <432625CD.9945E1AC@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FS Tube Breadboarding? References: <4325F090.DBEAAF06@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 01:04:35 GMT Nelson Gietz wrote: > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message > news:4325F090.DBEAAF06@earthlink.net... > > Ken wrote: > > > > > > They must have cost a fortune to make, must have been a Gov. contract. > Ken > > > > > > They look like they were made for electronics courses they sold to > > high schools labs in the 50s and 60s. Labvoilt was one company that made > > a lot of stuff for those school labs. > > > > Michael A. Terrell > > Central Florida > > Yeah, they came with a number of plug-in relays... I was thinking it might > be school lab stuff, but there's no labelling that I could see. The bottom > piece of plexi is screwed into tapped holes, and the wire channels are all > routed out. The relays showed a bit of moisture damage, but the base > assemblies are in great condition except for one that was broken... so I get > a small handful of real nice screw terminals and a socket from that one. > Nelson Items like that didn't have any markings. They were identified by photos in the catalog of replacement parts. My high school bought all of their equipment the year after all tubes were dropped from the lab course, but I remember seeing the parts for the vacuum tube radio experiments in their catalog. they were getting better equipment the year after I took the course. (Don't blame me, I deserved ONE easy credit! On the other hand I did have to be the teachers aid, due to a scheduling conflict.) -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322495 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1126553585.289214.65190@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126556974.531836.81050@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: More on Kutztown Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 01:15:01 GMT Ive been watching it sitting down there diddling its time away waiting for our radio meet to come up... and then IT will. its not out of the picture but I wouldnt worry about it just yet... its not doing what Ivan did but I have a senior expert meterologist aware of the situation and he will keep me informed about the rain shield and how far inland it goes. Not too concerned though.... Keith > Just took a look at the weekend forecast. With Ophelia out of the > picture, Friday looks p/c and 81 with a 30% chance of isolated > thundershowers. Saturday, Mostly Sunny and 78. Lookin' good! > > PS: Peter: Don't forget to bring a chair and a lamp! > > Mike Koste > Gobs of Knobs > Ambler, PA > Article: 322496 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1126553585.289214.65190@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126556974.531836.81050@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126558785.651078.65750@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: More on Kutztown Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 01:17:40 GMT If you have an extra of the large R&L lower 9 S 262 knobs Im interested too after Peter, Im looking to sell my 262 and the one Repro on it is the only thing that is. Thanks, Keith > Mike: > > I may need a couple of wooden Zenith Slash knobs. Please see me before > you sell any. Yes. A chair. Yes, a work lamp. Yes, a surge-supressor. > Yes, a Third Hand. Maybe a Dremel Tool. > Article: 322497 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:51:47 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: More on Kutztown References: <1126553585.289214.65190@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126556974.531836.81050@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <5f764$432630b7$4232bd50$31097@COQUI.NET> Keith Park wrote: > but I > have a senior expert meterologist aware of the situation and he will keep me > informed about the rain shield and how far inland it goes. Be sure and have him keep the NWS up to date, too. :) -Bill Article: 322498 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: anybody going be on the chat room tonight ?? Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:00:45 -0600 Message-ID: If anyone wants to meet up on the temp chat room for a chat...I'll check it out in a few minutes. Ben Article: 322499 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT Time travel From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <43245064.B2B18EFE@earthlink.net> <9NeVe.1137$1G4.150299@news20.bellglobal.com> <43259C90.2EA13102@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <2AqVe.326622$_o.235393@attbi_s71> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 02:12:14 GMT In article <43259C90.2EA13102@earthlink.net>, mike.terrell@earthlink.net says... > > > Sadly, no, unless it falls on you and takes your last 20 years. :( > >-- >? > >Michael A. Terrell >Central Florida Well I hope I have 20 good ones left in me.... lots of old radios yet to be restored around here! John k9uwa Article: 322500 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: WTS 6BK4C tubes From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1126553419.201303.84220@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126557670.199087.260400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4325EED0.3A618FFA@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 02:14:36 GMT In article <4325EED0.3A618FFA@earthlink.net>, mike.terrell@earthlink.net says... > > > The 6BK4 was the tube involved in the color TVs >that were emitting excessive X-rays. The later B and C versions were >more reliable and built to prevent the X-ray problems. >Michael A. Terrell >Central Florida sounds like the best use for them is as targets for B B Gun practice John k9uwa Article: 322501 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Re: anybody going be on the chat room tonight ?? Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:27:25 -0600 Message-ID: References: Same here Trey...so I tried another Sigmachat room I go to once in awhile and it wouldn't load either...must be in their server. Ben "Trey" wrote in message news:n7WdnVhwAoowpbveRVn-jg@bresnan.com... > I seem to be having problems getting it to load tonight... > > trey > "benjamaniac" wrote in message > news:dg5bs8$aest$1@news3.infoave.net... > > If anyone wants to meet up on the temp chat room for a chat...I'll check > > it out in a few minutes. > > Ben > > > > > > Article: 322502 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Is www.oldradioz.com dead, or just sleeping? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:29:24 -0400 "Phil Nelson" a écrit > Just ran a check on my links page (http://antiqueradio.org/radweb.htm) and > oldradioz.com consistently times out after 1 or 2 minutes. > > Syl? > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html There has been a major power failure in California where my webserver is hosted. It should be back later this evening. Backup power has been diverted to major accounts, for obvious reasons. Syl Article: 322503 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Re: Is www.oldradioz.com dead, or just sleeping? Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:30:34 -0600 Message-ID: References: I just tried it here Phil...works fine for me. Ben "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:jMmdndGg-KEVq7veRVn-uQ@giganews.com... > Just ran a check on my links page (http://antiqueradio.org/radweb.htm) and > oldradioz.com consistently times out after 1 or 2 minutes. > > Syl? > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > Article: 322504 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Re: OT Time travel Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 20:31:42 -0600 Message-ID: References: <43245064.B2B18EFE@earthlink.net> <9NeVe.1137$1G4.150299@news20.bellglobal.com> <43259C90.2EA13102@earthlink.net> <2AqVe.326622$_o.235393@attbi_s71> > > Sadly, no, unless it falls on you and takes your last 20 years. :( > > > >-- > >? > > > >Michael A. Terrell > >Central Florida > > > Well I hope I have 20 good ones left in me.... lots of old radios > yet to be restored around here! > John k9uwa > Amen on that John...I hope to get 20 more good years too....for the same reason. Ben Article: 322505 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43263C28.310FE48A@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: OT Time travel References: <43245064.B2B18EFE@earthlink.net> <9NeVe.1137$1G4.150299@news20.bellglobal.com> <43259C90.2EA13102@earthlink.net> <2AqVe.326622$_o.235393@attbi_s71> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 02:40:00 GMT "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote: > > Well I hope I have 20 good ones left in me.... lots of old radios > yet to be restored around here! > John k9uwa I hope so, too. Take it easy, work when you feel like it, and make sure to take a little time off to rest every year. That way if you fall a little short, you will have enjoyed whatever time you had left. That is what I am going to do down here in Florida. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322506 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43263D1A.2C081514@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: WTS 6BK4C tubes References: <1126553419.201303.84220@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126557670.199087.260400@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4325EED0.3A618FFA@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 02:44:01 GMT "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote: > > In article <4325EED0.3A618FFA@earthlink.net>, mike.terrell@earthlink.net > says... > > > > > > The 6BK4 was the tube involved in the color TVs > >that were emitting excessive X-rays. The later B and C versions were > >more reliable and built to prevent the X-ray problems. > >Michael A. Terrell > >Central Florida > > sounds like the best use for them is as targets for B B Gun practice > John k9uwa Actually, they are used in some scientific equipment as high voltage, low capacitance capacitors. They don't apply any voltage to the heaters, so they are quite stable in this application. I wonder how well they would work in high power ATU cabinets? Some instruments parallel a half dozen to get the capacitance they need. there was some discussion about this on one of the sci.electronics newsgroups (Probably news:sci.electronics.design ) a while back. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322507 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:49:59 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: Is www.oldradioz.com dead, or just sleeping? References: Message-ID: benjamaniac wrote: > I just tried it here Phil...works fine for me. > Ben You must have good luck. It has been inaccessible for most of the day here. -Bill Article: 322508 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1126491935.cd01789162497fc08a9c1c3049e89d99@teranews> <4324F3E8.59A0B300@earthlink.net> <4325F287.F87AF081@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: FS - isolation transformer anyone??? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 22:56:27 -0400 "Michael A. Terrell" a écrit > > Interesting. Like I said, all of the ones I have had produced a > distorted sine wave output, and I was selling the used units to a guy > that repaired TEC electronic cash registers. > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida And the TEC guy never tought of using a 'scope to look at the sinewave ? You don't want to know what I think of TEC guys here in Quebec... I fail to see how a simple isolation txfmr can cause sinewave distortion, unless yours were all CVT type ? I bring a 'scope at the customers' premises all the time when they don't believe me about the source of the problem. See...Before...Now...After. Sells everytime, even if they don't fully understand what's going on, all it counts to them is to have their P.O.S. working as they should. 8o) Syl Article: 322509 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: isolation transformer. maybe the dumbest question ever From: Larry References: <1126551469.562894.233020@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 23:01:35 -0400 Tim Mullen wrote in news:dg4vha$b72$1@reader1.panix.com: > Or lean on your car. :) :) :) Only if IT is keyed up....otherwise you are quite safe...(c; -- Larry Article: 322510 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: isolation transformer. maybe the dumbest question ever From: Larry References: <1126551469.562894.233020@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 23:03:45 -0400 "Phil Nelson" wrote in news:bsqdnboDubUSlbveRVn- sw@giganews.com: > When working on a powered-up chassis, keep one hand in your pocket! > > Precisely why many hobbiests should start restoring 9V transistor radios!...(c; The only time they shock you is when you put the battery terminals to your tongue!....OUCH!@....Yeah, it's a good battery... -- Larry Article: 322512 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4326441F.D00DF785@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FS - isolation transformer anyone??? References: <1126491935.cd01789162497fc08a9c1c3049e89d99@teranews> <4324F3E8.59A0B300@earthlink.net> <4325F287.F87AF081@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 03:13:59 GMT Syl wrote: > > And the TEC guy never thought of using a 'scope to look at the sinewave ? > You don't want to know what I think of TEC guys here in Quebec... > > I fail to see how a simple isolation txfmr can cause sinewave distortion, > unless yours were all CVT type ? > > I bring a 'scope at the customers' premises all the time when they don't > believe me > about the source of the problem. See...Before...Now...After. Sells > everytime, even if they > don't fully understand what's going on, all it counts to them is to have > their P.O.S. > working as they should. 8o) > > Syl Actually, the guy had been to the TEC school, but it was because his biggest customer had close to 1000 TEC registers and he had contracted to try to keep them running till they chose and installed a newer system. They ended up with a cheap PC based package that is less reliable then the TEC registers. I got several of their previous National Semiconductor Checkmate systems with the custom made printers and laser based barcode scanners. I got 2 complete computers, two 5 KW UPS systems, two 5 kW CVT regulators, 16 cash registers, 10 laser barcode scanners, 16 printers and two fork lift battery chargers for $100. I found $40 in the guts of one register and sold the working laser tubes and power supplies for $320. I was going to sell them for $100, but the guy got in my face and informed me that he WAS going to buy them, and his best offer was $320. and that he wasn't going to argue about the price. So, I took the extra $220 to compensate for his horrible breath. All together I made almost 400 profit from the parts, and I still have the two 24" wide relay racks with the four doors. I added some shelves and use them to store delicate parts. BTW, do you know of a very cheap or free POS software package I can get for my church to help track what we are collecting and giving out to the people we are helping to relocate after hurricane Katrina? I found a few bloated demo packages, but they all want a NT based OS to run and I have already given away all the newer computers so it will have to run on win 95. I used to have a demo copy of the early Micro Register for Win 3.1 or Win 95, but I can't find all the floppies. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322513 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Is www.oldradioz.com dead, or just sleeping? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 23:50:53 -0400 "Phil Nelson" a écrit > Oh duh. Will confirm the link later. > > Thanks! > > Phil Back in business as promised Phil ! Syl Article: 322514 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Today's Freebie haul Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:49:30 -0600 Message-ID: <25948-43264C4A-899@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <617ci15cb597bpgphemk0mjebju9jjcnv9@4ax.com> Their seems to be a problem or 2 these days waiting for others to pick up old junk . Thrift shops are more pickey about what they will take now Local auctions now refuse such stuff and or will charge you to throw it in there dumpster . I had stuff for free at the yard sale and no one wanted it . It is sad ..... but i spent more time in the past 5 years moving , kicking , tripping over this stuff than it would ever be worth . 5 decent old restored radios were sold to one couple , 5 more went to the antique mall today . Thats 2 consoles and 8 table tops . A very large Edison Phono will leave here this week and i hope another 2 or 3 will go to another mall in a near by town . The rest of the basket case radios in the garage that still look like radios i am thinking of taking to the auction for there first of the month antique auction if dont part them out but the parts are just more of the hundreds i already have . When done i would guess 4 or 5 small size pickup truck loads will have left here . This freedome of space feels real good and gets me in the mood to pull some radios out of storage at my workplace and get them done with plenty of room to walk around :-) Article: 322515 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1126491935.cd01789162497fc08a9c1c3049e89d99@teranews> <4324F3E8.59A0B300@earthlink.net> <4325F287.F87AF081@earthlink.net> <4326441F.D00DF785@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: FS - isolation transformer anyone??? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 00:20:31 -0400 "Michael A. Terrell" a demandé > BTW, do you know of a very cheap or free POS software package I can > get for my church to help track what we are collecting and giving out to > the people we are helping to relocate after hurricane Katrina? None, really. I used to develop P.O.S. softwares for large companies and govt. So they don't work on small machines unfortunately. But you could simply use Access and use the wizard to build a service calls database. I just looked and it is usable to track parts by customers. Should do the work for what you need, really. There are tons of little P.O.S. softwares around but never really cared to look at them for obvious reasons... Syl I found > a few bloated demo packages, but they all want a NT based OS to run and > I have already given away all the newer computers so it will have to run > on win 95. I used to have a demo copy of the early Micro Register for > Win 3.1 or Win 95, but I can't find all the floppies. > > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 322516 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: FS - isolation transformer anyone??? References: <1126491935.cd01789162497fc08a9c1c3049e89d99@teranews> <4324F3E8.59A0B300@earthlink.net> <4325F287.F87AF081@earthlink.net> <4326441F.D00DF785@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <1AsVe.1814$5g.736@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 04:28:45 GMT Michael A. Terrell wrote: > BTW, do you know of a very cheap or free POS software package I can > get for my church to help track what we are collecting and giving out to > the people we are helping to relocate after hurricane Katrina? I found > a few bloated demo packages, but they all want a NT based OS to run and > I have already given away all the newer computers so it will have to run > on win 95. I used to have a demo copy of the early Micro Register for > Win 3.1 or Win 95, but I can't find all the floppies. I was about to suggest ICE, but yeah, it requires Windows 2000 (NT based) and a reasonable system to operate properly. It is free however. You're best bet is to find a used copy of some- thing from PeachTree. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 322517 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: isolation transformer. maybe the dumbest question ever Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:12:04 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1126551469.562894.233020@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Larry wrote: > > Everyone in my cal lab hated me and my GFI-enabled benches. The AC line > filters in a LOT of Navy equipment had leaky caps that caused GFI trips > when it was simply plugged in, without even turning them on....forcing them > to replace the defective filters BEFORE there was a real short or fire. > An R-390A line filter, leaky or not, will trip a properly functioning GFI every time......At least every one I have ever seen has done it. -Scott Article: 322518 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: Kutztown - Is anyone selling some crank up record players..... Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 04:56:46 GMT I can't be there but a friend may go if she can find some old victrola type record players (with the flower output horn) in working condition. I would probably be the one to go over it and clean it up for her. But, let me know if some of these will be for sale and I will forward the messages to her. Thanks Paul P. Article: 322519 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: Kutztown - Is anyone selling some crank up record players..... Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 04:57:00 GMT I can't be there but a friend may go if she can find some old Victrola type record players (with the flower output horn) in working condition. I would probably be the one to go over it and clean it up for her. But, let me know if some of these will be for sale and I will forward the messages to her. Thanks Paul P. Article: 322520 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: Kutztown - Is anyone selling some crank up record players..... Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 04:57:07 GMT I can't be there but a friend may go if she can find some old Victrola type record players (with the flower output horn) in working condition. I would probably be the one to go over it and clean it up for her. But, let me know if some of these will be for sale and I will forward the messages to her. Thanks Paul P. Article: 322521 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: Kutztown - Is anyone selling some crank up record players..... Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 04:59:27 GMT Sorry for the electronic stuttering :~) PP Article: 322522 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1126539960.940877.44540@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 1000 78RPM RECORD DISKS-EBAY-OPENING BID $10 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 05:14:11 GMT "Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message news:ZcadnU08q6tyy7veRVn-vw@gbronline.com... > 66fourdoor wrote: > > BUY THEM NOW FOR $250 > > 25 CENTS PER RECORD- A SMOKIN' DEAL ! > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1,1&item=4768029127&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT > > > > More junk. OUI. Non encourage? Article: 322523 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 01:23:43 -0400 From: -ex- Subject: Re: isolation transformer. maybe the dumbest question ever References: <1126551469.562894.233020@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <3a0f4$43266262$4232bd50$8902@COQUI.NET> Scott W. Harvey wrote: > Larry wrote: > >> >> Everyone in my cal lab hated me and my GFI-enabled benches. The AC >> line filters in a LOT of Navy equipment had leaky caps that caused GFI >> trips when it was simply plugged in, without even turning them >> on....forcing them to replace the defective filters BEFORE there was a >> real short or fire. >> > An R-390A line filter, leaky or not, will trip a properly functioning > GFI every time......At least every one I have ever seen has done it. > > -Scott I'll let somebody else do the number crunching. GFI and modern bypass cap standards suggest numbers beyond .015mf are 1) dangerous and 2) will trip a GFI leaky or not. In the realm of *old* radios its rare to see bypass caps as LOW as .015 and many old geezers seem to require considerably more than .015. Anybody care to run some numbers to nail down this bit of jello wonderment? -BM > Article: 322524 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: isolation transformer. maybe the dumbest question ever Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2005 23:27:29 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:25:56 -0600, xrongor wrote: > i think i understand the concept of an isolation transformer. a 1:1 ratio > transformer to physically disconnect your power supply from the line > voltage. > > but what good is this going to do? how is this going to save me or my gear? > is the idea that the transformer burns up before you do? > > randy There have been a lot of answers to this with bits and pieces of the answer. Let me try to put it all in one place (and then someone else can add what I missed). It all begins with the design of the power system. 120 VAC, 60 Hz power (if you live in the US, I assume that European power works the same way except at 230 VAC, 50 Hz) is distributed to your outlets on two wires. One of the wires (white in US, blue in Europe) is connected to earth ground where the power enters your house, your neighbor's houses, and anywhere else the power company thinks is appropriate. This wire is commonly called "neutral". The other wire (black in US, brown in Europe) has the 120 (or 230) VAC and is frequently called "line", "live", "hot" or something similar. These aren't the NEC words but ones that are in common use. Since one side of the power is grounded, if you happen to touch the other side and some other ground (water pipe, damp floor, etc.) at the same time you will be shocked. If the hot side touches some other ground, you have a short circuit and a fuse blows or a breaker trips. So, why don't they just not ground either side and eliminate the problem? If they did that (and it has been done) a short to ground would go unnoticed. Then if someone touched the wrong side and ground at the same time they would still be shocked just like in the standard system. The difference is that they would assume that there was no danger and probably not be as careful. That's kind of a marginal reason. Now consider what would happen if a car hit a power pole and knocked down a 10,000 V wire onto a 120 V wire. Since there is no current path, everything would continue to work as before. Now however, if someone touched either side of the 120 V line and ground, they would get 10,000 V! Furthermore, 10,000 V can jump about 1/2" so it wouldn't even be necessary to touch it. That could really spoil your day! Also, a wire doesn't have to fall to cause this problem, lightning could also do it. If one side of the 120 V circuit is grounded, the high voltage would have a path to ground and trip a breaker and there would be no surprising voltages on your stuff. Its all a matter of safety. So, now this added safety brings us back to the danger of this system that I mentioned in the first paragraph. If I assume (perhaps wrongly) that most people have enough sense not to touch wires, how could there be any problem? If you have a metal cased appliance (for example, an electric drill) and the insulation in it failed, you could now have a dangerous voltage some place where you would not be expecting it. There are two ways around this. The first is to ground the metal case by means of a third wire (green in US, green with yellow stripe in Europe). Then if the internal insulation failed, there would be a short circuit and the fuse would blow or the breaker would trip. This has to be a third wire because if the neutral wire were used and it broke, there would be line voltage on the metal case. With a third wire, if the neutral broke, the item simply wouldn't work. If the ground wire broke, the insulation in the appliance would still protect you. It would take two failures, a broken ground wire and insulation failure, to create a dangerous situation. Not perfect but a lot better. The other way to protect against insulation failure is to make the insulation so thick that it can't possibly fail. This is what is done on power tools and other items that use two wire cords. There is the normal insulation inside and the plastic case provides an additional barrier. Plastic cases can break, so again, it isn't perfect but it is a lot better. Now we get to your question. Many radios, TVs, and other items run directly off the power line. Many of them have one side of the line connected to the metal chassis. As long as these are in insulating cabinets, there isn't a problem. But you can't work on them in the cabinet. When you take them out of the cabinet you intentionally defeat whatever safety features were designed in. Then you are in danger of touching the chassis and ground at the same time and getting shocked. Sometimes you can reverse the plug and have the chassis connected to the neutral wire, but many sets are wired so that the chassis is hot in either position or it changes depending on whether the switch is on or off. The solution is to use an isolation transformer. This transfers power >from the power line to your equipment under test by magnetic induction without a direct connection. This gives you a local power system that doesn't have a ground reference. There probably aren't any 10,000 V power lines in your shop to fall on the wires and if lightning hits, you won't care anyway. You still can be shocked by contacting both sides of this system. It only protects you against contact with another ground. Now we come to the matter of test equipment. All quality, line operated equipment is grounded through the power cord. If you connect one to your radio without an isolation transformer you have a high probability of a short circuit through test equipment. This could burn out the probe that you made the connection with, however, it also likely to burn out the printed circuit board in the instrument. This isn't desirable! You could also prevent this by disconnecting the ground in the test equipment's power cord or by using older or lower quality equipment that doesn't have a ground. This however, could put the case of your equipment at line voltage. There is a good chance that you will touch this case while you adjust controls, etc. so this only multiplies the danger. Don't do it. Use an isolation transformer. Some electronic entertainment equipment is powered by a built in transformer. If this transformer is in good condition, it serves as an isolation transformer and an external unit is unnecessary. Beware of equipment that is only partially powered by a transformer. I am thinking of things like TV sets (Motorola?) that have a large transformer for powering the tube heaters and get the high voltage directly from the AC line. These need an isolation transformer. Check the schematic to be sure. The transformer you use must have a power rating high enough to run whatever you are testing. If you use the suggestion of using two identical transformers back to back, you can determine the power rating by multiplying the voltage rating by the current rating. For example, if your transformers are rated at 12.6 V @ 1.2 A, the rating is 12.6 X 1.2 = 15.12 W (actually VA but this post is already long enough). This isn't enough to do much of anything. If the transformers are 12.6 V @ 10 A, you would have 12.6 X 10 = 126 W. This is enough to run many radios but not most old TVs. Watch out for using this method. If you can't get the transformers cheap, it isn't worth doing. Two 12.6 V, 10 A transformers will cost approximately twice as much as a single 120 V 125 W isolation transformer. They will also be twice as big and twice as heavy. If you plan to interconnect two non-isolated pieces of equipment, you need a separate isolation transformer for each. I put a lot of detail in here. I hope it helps rather than confusing things. Good luck. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 322525 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 02:54:14 -0400 From: Bill M Subject: Re: isolation transformer. maybe the dumbest question ever References: Message-ID: Jim Mueller wrote: > I put a lot of detail in here. I hope it helps rather than confusing > things. I'll add...maybe I overlooked it having been emphasized before...that putting your *entire bench* on the isolation xfmr defeats its main purpose. You only want to isolate the rig under test. Tying your sig gen, scope, etc together on the same circuit may still present the hot chassis polarity caveats. And so as to not become overly complacent because you have an "isolation" xfmr, remember that high voltages are still present and you should safely treat the whole setup as if it were "hot". The iso xfmr only protects for a few of the inadvertent things that may occur. -BM Article: 322526 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: Today's Freebie haul Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 10:25:30 GMT "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:mo2dnfsSi7s6FrneRVn-hg@comcast.com... >> NLS Model LX-2 Digital Voltmeter. Nothing special, but is has >> a nixie tube display. > > "Nothing special"? Wasn't it one of the first DVMs? > > Any idea where I can find a manual and schematic for some of these? I found the Tektronix and Eico manuals on BAMA, but not the NLS. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 322527 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Kutztown - Is anyone selling some crank up record players..... Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 06:46:33 -0400 Message-ID: <11idbg7t2bgvc16@corp.supernews.com> References: Paul P wrote: > I can't be there Yes you can- you are blowing off the game with wife's blessing, IRC (sic). John H. Article: 322528 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Kutztown - Is anyone selling some crank up record players..... Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 06:47:43 -0400 Message-ID: <11idbiegi6k2o68@corp.supernews.com> References: There aren't too many of these outside horn phonos there usually but one or two do usually show. John H. 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Article: 322538 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1126539960.940877.44540@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1126591395.911862.226650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 1000 78RPM RECORD DISKS-EBAY-OPENING BID $10 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 15:48:26 GMT "frenchy" wrote in message news:1126591395.911862.226650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > And here I thought I was going to have to make 59 trips to my local > Salvation Army and Goodwill stores and pick out records with my eyes > closed till the shopping cart was full... As long as you like getting mostly Mario Lanza, gospel artists you've never heard of and Jefferson Airplane's "Crown of Creation" without the LP inside. Article: 322539 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <1126266605.273945.20840@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11i48v5k8hhc04a@corp.supernews.com> <11i6fcgmsupfb43@corp.supernews.com> <1126548166.419479.76020@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Final Kutztown Roll Call Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:26:54 -0400 "Alan Douglas" wrote in message news:o1obi1t9thi2fk1dpq7k1cmuc7ta54h4np@4ax.com... > Hi, > >>Bruce Mager of waves is also going to the Kutztown meet. He'll be there >>friday with an assortment of stuff and his wife. :) >> >>Charlotte > > This is a swap meet, right? So what's he looking for, in exchange? > :) > > Alan A friend of mine got a new car for his wife. Boy, was he pleased! Article: 322540 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jm" References: Subject: Re: This old house Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:57:19 -0400 "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:dg6pc1$kl0$1@reader1.panix.com... > In "jm" > writes: > >>Went to view a house I am thinking of buying. The lady who lived in it, is >>deceased. The family has removed about 90% of the items. Of those that >>remained - a TV set - I didn't get to look to see what model or anything, >>but I can tell you - this sucker was very old. I'd have to guess and say >>definately 50s era. Did it work? I don't know. I didn't look up close at >>it, >>but from a short distance away, it appeared to be in rather decent >>condition. The Realtor and myself were remarking the TV was older than >>both >>of us, and he is a few years older than me! > > Direct view? Mirror-in-the-lid? How large was the tube? 10"? > Stylistically, sets got very square by 1950, and, with few exceptions, > began to look the way we expect televisions to look during the last > half of the 20th century. Was the cabinet wood or metal? > > A good resource, with lots of pictures and links to more sites > with pictures, is the Early Television Foundation: > > http://www.earlytelevision.org > > -- > Tim Mullen > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. > ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- The cabinet was wooden, no mistake about that! The tube was "round". I'll guess it could have been about 10" or so. Not a big viewing area, that is for sure. I sure wish I had paid more attention to the details, but I didn't wish to waste the time of the Real Estate Agent. jm Article: 322541 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: This old house Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 17:26:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "jm" writes: [early television sighting] >The cabinet was wooden, no mistake about that! The tube was "round". I'll >guess it could have been about 10" or so. Not a big viewing area, that is >for sure. I sure wish I had paid more attention to the details, but I didn't >wish to waste the time of the Real Estate Agent. If you're curious, take a look at: http://earlytelevision.org/american_postwar.html You might spot something like the set you saw. If by "round", you mean a rounded-corner mask in front of the tube, well, most manufacturers did that. All picture tubes up until the mid(?) fifties were completely round insofar as the tube itself goes. If you literally mean round as viewed from the front, some companies did that, too, not wanting to waste any of that precious screen area with a 4x3 aspect mask. Alignment instructions were to adjust picture height equal to picture width. This made everyone look better :), but it was wrong. Zenith was the most notable of these "porthole" manu- facturers. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 322542 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Hagman" Subject: Re: Kutztown - Is anyone selling some crank up record players..... Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 13:55:04 -0400 Message-ID: <11ie4jolft9rrfe@corp.supernews.com> References: <11idbiegi6k2o68@corp.supernews.com> "Paul P" wrote in message news:L3AVe.239054$5N3.176335@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > John, Do you have one for sale? No, too rich for my blood. John H. Article: 322543 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43271648.3F59CD6D@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: WTS 6BK4C tubes References: <1126553419.201303.84220@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 18:10:35 GMT toxcrusadr wrote: > > Uh, what's an ATU Cabinet? > > One could always start a rumor that they have a real sweet sound in > audio applications. Then wipe em off and put a WE logo. The Japanese > would eat em up. It is the big steel or aluminum NEMA box near a radio tower base or transmitter that matches the transmitter to the tower. IE: "Antenna Tuning Unit" It is built with high voltage capacitors and high current inductors and matches the impedance for a single tower, or the impedance and phasing for multiple towers. Each one is custom designed for that site and its radiation pattern. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 322544 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" References: Subject: Re: This old house Message-ID: Date: Tue, 13 Sep 2005 12:21:22 -0700 Visited Grandpa's old deserted house in Kansas In the barn was an old RCA console with a lid top Upon opening the lid to view the phono Found instead a half dozen or so - empty Jack Daniels Whiskey bottles Guess Grandma never knew as the town was dry -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! Someone wrote writes: >> >>>Went to view a house I am thinking of buying. The lady who lived in it, >>>is >>>deceased. The family has removed about 90% of the items. Of those that >>>remained - a TV set - I didn't get to look to see what model or anything, >>>but I can tell you - this sucker was very old. I'd have to guess and say >>>definately 50s era. Did it work? I don't know. I didn't look up close at >>>it, >>>but from a short distance away, it appeared to be in rather decent >>>condition. The Realtor and myself were remarking the TV was older than >>>both >>>of us, and he is a few years older than me! >>