Article: 325436 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 22:48:14 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: FA 1920s RCA Victor model 8U2 A Table Radio References: <1131329391.970311.294610@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <5c57c$436ec070$4232be30$848@COQUI.NET> sharknews@aol.com wrote: > > > 1920s RCA Victor model 8U2 A Table Radio. This is the table version of > a real classic. Which "real classic"? Another set from the 20s? This radio is from about 1936. :( -Bill Article: 325437 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1131329391.970311.294610@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <5c57c$436ec070$4232be30$848@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: FA 1920s RCA Victor model 8U2 A Table Radio Message-ID: <8lzbf.1322$ZA3.298294@monger.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 02:53:56 GMT All this person posts is auction spam, They have been known as iam30 at least on eBay and have spam going back to 1998 or '99. Of course there was no police band in the period mentioned. "Bill" wrote in message news:5c57c$436ec070$4232be30$848@COQUI.NET... > sharknews@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > 1920s RCA Victor model 8U2 A Table Radio. This is the table version of > > a real classic. > > Which "real classic"? Another set from the 20s? > > This radio is from about 1936. > > :( > > -Bill Article: 325438 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130959023.112407.211320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Coincidence at the AK Corral? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 03:09:29 GMT "OvenMaster" wrote in message news:1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > >This is the old server that Kam and Grumpy have restarted until the new server can come online. The reason that most have not gotten any emails is that the addresses were kept on the server that got unplugged. The status of the temporary server is as it was in October 2004, and that's the reason for the much lower member count. > > Tom Pah...I WAS in that count. Big deal. They'll never get the hang of it.. Article: 325439 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 23:18:44 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: FA 1920s RCA Victor model 8U2 A Table Radio References: <1131329391.970311.294610@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <5c57c$436ec070$4232be30$848@COQUI.NET> <1131332307.632139.209880@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: AuroraOldRadios wrote: > This isn't the same 8U2A as in Riders. This radio has 5 or maybe 6 > tubes. 8U2A in Riders has 8 tubes, a phono, and a tuning eye. This > radio is AM only. > Interesting. RCA model numbers back then usually indicated number of tubes but it says clearly in the photo 8U2. They later switched to year indications, I thought starting in 1939 but maybe that applied to some in 1938 as well? Thats also the 'newer' logo than the 1936 models. Yep, I guess its rare. -Bill Article: 325440 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130959023.112407.211320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Coincidence at the AK Corral? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 03:32:08 GMT Serious question, Tom. PBS can beg for money thrice or quarterly every year, and I've rarely heard of one going black over and over. Maybe a few weak UHFs before the FCC stepped in to spread things over both ranges more evenly (and DTV will bump a lot of your favorite stations OUT of the positions you've come to know them at). WHY have Tim, David and Luther been so blind to the fact that NOBODY wants to pay for AK and they completely ruined the classifieds out of--sh** if I know what, while they fought the Flamefight at the AK Corral and let the Gang of Boors play around. Tim could get an ORIGINAL screen name...he has so much debris tied to either one it's not funny. It's a scythe anyway and only reminds one of how he slices things to bits. "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message news:Jzzbf.1324$ZA3.298221@monger.newsread.com... > > "OvenMaster" wrote in message > news:1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > >This is the old server that Kam and Grumpy have restarted until the new > server can come online. The reason that most have not gotten any emails is > that the addresses were kept on the server that got unplugged. The status > of the temporary server is as it was in October 2004, and that's the reason > for the much lower member count. > > > > Tom > > Pah...I WAS in that count. > > Big deal. They'll never get the hang of it.. > > Article: 325441 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130959023.112407.211320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Coincidence at the AK Corral? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 03:35:55 GMT One last thing to you, Tom. The Audio Asylums they like to put down so much seem to be extremely polite and friendly, AK is a real asylum. "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message news:YUzbf.1329$ZA3.298625@monger.newsread.com... > Serious question, Tom. > > PBS can beg for money thrice or quarterly every year, and I've rarely heard > of one going black over and over. Maybe a few weak UHFs before the FCC > stepped in to spread things over both ranges more evenly (and DTV will bump > a lot of your favorite stations OUT of the positions you've come to know > them at). > > WHY have Tim, David and Luther been so blind to the fact that NOBODY wants > to pay for AK and they completely ruined the classifieds out of--sh** if I > know what, while they fought the Flamefight at the AK Corral and let the > Gang of Boors play around. > > Tim could get an ORIGINAL screen name...he has so much debris tied to either > one it's not funny. It's a scythe anyway and only reminds one of how he > slices things to bits. > > "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message > news:Jzzbf.1324$ZA3.298221@monger.newsread.com... > > > > > "OvenMaster" wrote in message > > news:1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > > >This is the old server that Kam and Grumpy have restarted until the > new > > server can come online. The reason that most have not gotten any emails is > > that the addresses were kept on the server that got unplugged. The status > > of the temporary server is as it was in October 2004, and that's the > reason > > for the much lower member count. > > > > > > Tom > > > > Pah...I WAS in that count. > > > > Big deal. They'll never get the hang of it.. > > > > > > Article: 325442 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1131335533.698146.63880@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Law & Order, Sunday 11-06-05 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 03:55:54 GMT You were seeing a judge who couldn't afford a Marantz at the time and wouldn't buy a Fisher... wrote in message news:1131335533.698146.63880@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Anybody else watching this tonight? It's two hours long. Seventy-two > minutes into the show, there's one scene where the detectives go into a > judge's den at home. On the bookshelves are dozens and dozens of record > albums. The judge has a 1960's era system. I'm guessing that the > component on the top is a Scott tuner. Beneath it is, I dont know, a > Scott integrated amplifier, maybe. I'd like to know what I was seeing. > > Thanks. > Article: 325443 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Zenith "5808" From: lherault@bu.edu Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 03:56:30 GMT Message-ID: <436ecfb8_1@newsfeed.slurp.net> I have been offered a Zenith "5808" radio that looks like it is in great cosmetic shape judging from the picture. I'm not a radio collector so I probably will try to resell it if I get it and get it working correctly (probably farm that out). Sooooo, I was wondering if this is a desirable/valuable radio. Is there anything in particular I should be on the look out for? Thanks for the input, Ron L Article: 325444 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Adam Stouffer Subject: Re: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. References: Message-ID: <5iAbf.5853$941.3990@trndny02> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 03:58:57 GMT Steven Swift wrote: > > I wasn't interested in spending that much on parts. > > Steve And watch them go pop if something accidently shorts :) Adam Article: 325445 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <436ecfb8_1@newsfeed.slurp.net> Subject: Re: Zenith "5808" Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 04:02:27 GMT Like, yaah. Zenith 5808 WHAT? AM? FM? Phono? CIA tap feed point? What's in the box besides a transformer (or not) and knobs LOL? wrote in message news:436ecfb8_1@newsfeed.slurp.net... > I have been offered a Zenith "5808" radio that looks like it is in great > cosmetic shape judging from the picture. I'm not a radio collector so I > probably will try to resell it if I get it and get it working correctly > (probably farm that out). Sooooo, I was wondering if this is a > desirable/valuable radio. Is there anything in particular I should be on > the look out for? > > Thanks for the input, > > Ron L Article: 325446 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <5iAbf.5853$941.3990@trndny02> Subject: Re: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 04:04:01 GMT "Adam Stouffer" wrote in message news:5iAbf.5853$941.3990@trndny02... > Steven Swift wrote: > > > > I wasn't interested in spending that much on parts. > > > > Steve > > And watch them go pop if something accidently shorts :) > > > Adam It's surreal, ain't it? Article: 325447 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 6X5's Converted to Diodes - Why? From: Larry References: <4cX8f.35571$fE5.34186@fed1read06> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 23:14:09 -0500 Lou deGonzague wrote in news:Zkwbf.39501$Bv6.5840@twister.nyroc.rr.com: > Never heard of a problem with 6X4. I have a few newer 6X5 tubes that > have the exact same structure as the 6X4 and I believe they will not > have the shorting problem that the old design had. > I have problems with 6X4 rectifiers with heater-cathode shorts, too. In an unfused Hammond tonewheel organ console, it usually takes out the main power transformer as the 6X4 arcs over the HV winding. The wax melts in the transformer before the windings short making a little wax pile that's easy to spot. -- Larry Article: 325448 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130959023.112407.211320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Wyatt Earp Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 04:14:31 GMT "OvenMaster" made a weak, sickly defense of Audiokarma,org in news:1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...and "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> finishes the thrust and parry for Daffy Duck in this fashion: I forwarded all three of those posts to him...not even a "**** you" back. Some defense of your own precious site. Go away Tom. Article: 325449 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <4cX8f.35571$fE5.34186@fed1read06> Subject: Re: 6X5's Converted to Diodes - Why? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 04:16:30 GMT "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns9706EA78F4157noone@63.223.7.253... > Lou deGonzague wrote in > news:Zkwbf.39501$Bv6.5840@twister.nyroc.rr.com: > > > Never heard of a problem with 6X4. I have a few newer 6X5 tubes that > > have the exact same structure as the 6X4 and I believe they will not > > have the shorting problem that the old design had. > > > > I have problems with 6X4 rectifiers with heater-cathode shorts, too. In an > unfused Hammond tonewheel organ console, it usually takes out the main > power transformer as the 6X4 arcs over the HV winding. The wax melts in > the transformer before the windings short making a little wax pile that's > easy to spot. > > -- > Larry Is the entire 6X- series inherently troublesome? Article: 325450 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: FA 1920s RCA Victor model 8U2 A Table Radio Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 21:16:10 -0700 Message-ID: <23142-436ED50A-845@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <8lzbf.1322$ZA3.298294@monger.newsread.com> All this person posts is auction spam, They `CHOP` Gee i wonder who else on the net is worse than spam . hmmm . ooop dont tell me .. goly i`m good . Article: 325451 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Coincidence at the AK Corral? Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 21:17:50 -0700 Message-ID: <23142-436ED56E-846@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: !@#$%#@ TWELVE ! Article: 325452 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Comparing old prices/earnings to new? From: Larry References: <_pobf.370$Id6.241@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <0hnsm1h4h5r9llc3mrv5p1d208o8vegcbo@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 23:28:59 -0500 k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) wrote in news:o4xbf.549519$xm3.133955@attbi_s21: > so at least here in Northern Indiana... housing is reasonably affordable. > > nothing like where Gary is... there... everything is outta sight! > > John k9uwa > You guys are in luck! 64 South Battery, overlooking the battery wall and Charleston Harbor across the 4-lane road, just came on the market. It's a paltry $US6,850,000 plus tax and recappable tire. http://www.ctarmls.com/CharlestonReports/ListitScripts/asp/report_builder.a sp?report=public_full_prop1&mls_acct=12526611 It's a little old, built in 1772 under British Rule, a little older than the country, but hasn't depreciated like your cars. The City Lot Rent (some call them real estate taxes) is only $US30,762/year....well that was last year. Taxes in Charleston have just DOUBLED with a new reassessment and a little trickery in the books. (And they say rich people don't pay taxes...ha!) It's got a 3-car garage to put the radio shop into, too! 12,000 sq ft but no front yard to mow....Acres of carpets... Shouldn't cost over $3000/month to heat and cool. Ah, I see they're even leaving all the old appliances. How nice.... Probably no room for them in the former owner's mobile home...hee hee. -- Larry Article: 325453 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Clarify WTD Tuska Rheostat Knobs Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 21:22:18 -0700 Message-ID: <23142-436ED67A-847@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <0ietm1h5o3gonv4dorq7k0mib031tb0lt5@4ax.com> I could get them to fill the mold a couple of times, but it could take a while. Alan They must be BIG molds :-0 Article: 325454 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Paint on wood radio Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 21:24:51 -0700 Message-ID: <23143-436ED713-219@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: No Article: 325455 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 00:41:57 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Zenith "5808" References: <436ecfb8_1@newsfeed.slurp.net> Message-ID: lherault@bu.edu wrote: > I have been offered a Zenith "5808" radio that looks like it is in great > cosmetic shape judging from the picture. I'm not a radio collector so I > probably will try to resell it if I get it and get it working correctly > (probably farm that out). Sooooo, I was wondering if this is a > desirable/valuable radio. Is there anything in particular I should be on > the look out for? > > Thanks for the input, > > Ron L 5808 is the chassis number that goes in the 8S443, 451, 463 models. These are common models but I think they have a good reputation for performance in the 8-tuber world. One caveat would be the 6X5 rectifier tube that is often discussed. For the set to be a daily driver it makes sense to do some sort of workaround to keep it from taking out the power xfmr. By the same token its prudent to check the radio to make sure this hasn't happened already. -Bill Article: 325456 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <23142-436ED56E-846@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Coincidence at the AK Corral? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 04:43:34 GMT fortnightly Article: 325457 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <436ecfb8_1@newsfeed.slurp.net> Subject: Re: Zenith "5808" Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 04:48:29 GMT Thank you for the explanation. It helped. "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:vaWdnQO06N1JRfPeRVn-ug@comcast.com... > That is possibly the most common of all pre WW2 Zenith consoles. Its a > nice looker, however, so they sell well. Its 1940, 8 tube radio. The dial > belt is always bad, and you should always replace most all the capacitors. > This set uses the fairly unreliable type 6X5 tubes, too. We had a > discussion about them recently here. > A full chassis redo usually will cost around $200-250. An "as is" but VG > version sells in the midwest around $135-250, higher on the coasts. A > fully restored one in the right venue could sell $600 I suppose. Hard core > collectors dont want this set... but the general public will drool over it. > Dont strip the "burled" wood. Its fake, and will not come back without > grevious work. > > Mark Oppat > Antique Audio > Detroit area > > > wrote in message news:436ecfb8_1@newsfeed.slurp.net... > > I have been offered a Zenith "5808" radio that looks like it is in great > > cosmetic shape judging from the picture. I'm not a radio collector so I > > probably will try to resell it if I get it and get it working correctly > > (probably farm that out). Sooooo, I was wondering if this is a > > desirable/valuable radio. Is there anything in particular I should be on > > the look out for? > > > > Thanks for the input, > > > > Ron L > > > > > Article: 325458 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <8lzbf.1322$ZA3.298294@monger.newsread.com> <23142-436ED50A-845@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Far as I know, Ken sometimes all you do is spam me Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 04:51:54 GMT ----- Article: 325459 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Ron Ramirez, I hope you are ok. From: Ron Ramirez References: <1131328232.048203.192460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 05:10:53 GMT Hi Mark Thanks very much for asking, but I am quite well, thank you. We live on the near North Side of Evansville, and so we were not only spared the brunt of the storm, but we slept through it - didn't know anything had even happened until we were awakened by a phone call shortly before 7 a.m. from one of MRS. R.'s brothers in Illinois, asking if we were alright. I haven't had a chance to inquire if another local fellow, Bruce Mercer, is o.k. or not, but since he also lives away from the damage area, I trust he is alright as well. (You there, Bruce?) -- Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ and the new Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php "Mark M" wrote in news:1131328232.048203.192460 @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com: > I heard about the tornadoes going through Evansville this morning. You > may have bigger things to deal with at the moment but I hope you're > doing fine. Article: 325460 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 02:37:10 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: 1920s RCA Victor model 8U2 A Table Radio References: <1131329391.970311.294610@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131344752.862038.165710@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <39b7b$436ef618$4232bd0b$10208@COQUI.NET> sharknews@aol.com wrote: > > The dial does clearly say POLICE at 3 oclock Yep, the police used those freqs in the old days. Many 1930-40s radios say that. Now much of that is part of the normal broadcast band. Its still a one-band broadcast radio and isn't from the 20s and has nothing to do with some bigger set from the 20s. And auction teasers do encounter resistance here - especially when the header doesn't indicate such. Hehe, part of the price of free advertising and not being familiar with the venue. It has been fun, no hard feelings, mmmkay? Its an interesting little set nonetheless. Any indication on a cabinet label that it could be Canadian? That oversized power xfmr could be a 25 Hz version. Thanks and goodnight. -Bill Article: 325461 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: British Thompson Houston "Type E Form C" Cone Loud Speaker From: Jim Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 12:21:34 GMT British Thompson Houston "Type E Form C" Cone Loud Speaker I have been given this, and I was wondering if it had any value. Is it worth keeping/selling? Any information would be appreciated. Post to the group, or email me. Jim. Article: 325462 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Need P-P output transformer.. power rating about 10-15 watts, impedence not critical Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:09:23 +0900 Message-ID: Let me know what you need for one.. TIA Article: 325463 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Henry Kolesnik" Subject: odd variable capacitor ? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 13:10:15 GMT Please take a look at alt.binaries.schematics.electronic tnx -- 73 Hank WD5JFR Article: 325464 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Swap meet ads From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1131214927.986207.228980@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <0Yfbf.439$Xo.140@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <4Svbf.698$Xo.350@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <28CdnfP8lvbeKfPeRVn-rA@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 14:27:55 GMT In article <28CdnfP8lvbeKfPeRVn-rA@comcast.com>, moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... > > >John, >you and Jean gonna make Charlotte again??? This will be my 13th year I >think. > >Mark Oppat > Beats me at this point... depends on when we leave FL.. John Article: 325465 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith "5808" From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <436ecfb8_1@newsfeed.slurp.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 14:33:57 GMT In article , moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... > > >> I have been offered a Zenith "5808" radio that looks like it is in great Its interesting to see just how often this radio is mentioned as a 5808 rather than correct model number... that tells me there are a huge number of Bunis Books out there... cause Marty's one mistake listing it as 5808 in the book ... and that Slusser has done an excellent job of Editing it.... he left it out of the book 6 completely... no mention of the set as either 8s463 or as 5808 .... maybe book #7 one of these days they will get it right! John k9uwa Article: 325466 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "G. Wilson" Subject: Westinghouse schematic diagram Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 08:52:00 -0700 Message-ID: hello If anyone has a schematic for a Canadian Westinghouse AC/ DC radio model 5P108 you would be a lifesaver . It is a battery portable , and AC thanks Gordon Article: 325467 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: Subject: Re: Paint on wood radio Message-ID: <3bMbf.5558$lb7.63508@news1.mts.net> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 11:29:45 -0800 "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:gZOdnUByLoRoRPPenZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@giganews.com... > Latex paint might come off without too much damage, but if it's oil based > (likely, if it's old), I doubt you could get it off without disturbing the > underlying finish. > > Paint over an old finish may be tricky to dig out of the nooks & crannies, > nicks, and pores in the old weathered finish. > > It's your time . . . you have nothing to lose by trying gentle methods. If > those fail, go for the stripper. You may save time in the long run by simply > stripping it and starting over. > > Phil Nelson Thanks for the responses, all. I think Phil has summed it up. I'll try the rubbing alcohol and heat, but I suspect it's a total refinish job, complete with repwood, it looks like. Having looked this thing over, I see a big, and very interesting project ahead. The radio is built and wired like a tank. Cheers, Nelson Article: 325468 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: <1131338472.027874.6130@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Help: Frying power transformer Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 17:31:23 GMT nesesu wrote: > An internal interturn short on ANY winding will put a heavy load on > the primary, since that has to supply the power to the short, but not > on the secondary winding leadouts since no extra current flows thare. > The windings are prone to fail in the order of: HV secondary due to > relatively fine wire; Primary due to being stressed by all overloads; > Rectifier filament due to high 'offset' voltage; Main filament low > likelyhood of failure. > Keep in mind that the turn to turn voltage stress is the same on all > windings of a given transformer, so that stress is usually quite > reasonable BUT transformer overheating due to overload will cause > failure of the inter-layer insulation and the higher voltage the > winding the higher the voltage stress between winding layers and thus > the order of likely failures mentioned above. > > Neil S. So,can i think about a short in the radio circuitry now overloading the transformer? If i get correct voltages on secondaries, could be possible a short between secondaries? (...not a trouble in replacing the transformer, just more knowledge for the future..) -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 325469 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Comparing old prices/earnings to new? Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 09:57:55 -0800 Message-ID: <29671-436F95A3-463@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: <1131379172.263010.317310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> >Some will argue that these old TV's were >superior to the stuff in the stores today,.. Ho, ho. Not if they worked on 'em for a living and nursed them thru their warranty periods. >...but that color TV we got broke down a >couple times a year. That was just about typical. Bill(oc) Article: 325470 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: <3q5um1552ilmaeb8k8rc2j0fteirgc39rb@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Rider Chanalyst? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 12:47:17 -0600 "Dale H. Cook" wrote in message > I suspect it may be a 162 that had been modified by a previous owner. > > Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, > Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ > http://members.cox.net/dalehcook/starcity.shtml It's not modified.. It's a 162 C with IF/RF Out, AF Out plus it has an extra plug for gnd. -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 325471 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith "5808" From: "Haggis" telus.net> References: <436ecfb8_1@newsfeed.slurp.net> <1131375580.021556.188900@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 19:51:37 GMT On 7-Nov-2005, "Mark Oppat" wrote: > you are correct, Paul, the chassis # 5808 number is easily found but the > model number on these is almost impossible to find, its the typical light > ink stamped on the cabinet. Maybe not "radio related" though on topic, so to speak. A few years ago, I bought a used motorcycle (Laverda) from a workmate, who I know paid cash for it. About a week after I registered it, I got a phone call from the bank, wanting to reposess it! After he read me off the "Serial No.", I had a good laugh - the lein was on the "Model No.", which I presume most every Laverda of that series carried. Haggis. Article: 325472 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Refinishing Brass References: Message-ID: <_oObf.11798$2k5.2527@dukeread09> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 15:01:55 -0500 I have found, after I clean a brass escutcheon, it's too bright, so I spray it with Mohawk 'Ultra Classic'toner. This patina gives it that old brass look. I don't know where one could find the type lac used by industry, it's much tougher than anything commercially available. Ken Geary Morton wrote: > I'm hoping that some of the restoration experts out there might be able > to answer this. Simply polishing brass and spraying with clear lacquer > will not give you the finish of most factory items. Brass hardware > (doorknobs, hinges, trim, etc.) you buy in a store has a much deeper > color than the pale results I always come up with. Is there some sort > of pickling solution that is used on the brass prior to coating? Or is > there a colored transparent lacquer that gives this result? This is > something that has puzzled me for years! > > Thanks for any wisdom you can shed on this. > > Geary Morton Article: 325473 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1131328232.048203.192460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ron Ramirez, I hope you are ok. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:28:19 GMT That is good to hear (about you, we are all saddened by the tragedy around you)...Do what you can over there. "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:xr-dnZRbqq8rLPLeRVn-qA@sigecom.net... > > "Ron Ramirez" wrote in message > news:Xns9706EBD5D883Amrphilco@207.115.63.158... > > I haven't had a chance to inquire if another local fellow, Bruce Mercer, > > is > > o.k. or not, but since he also lives away from the damage area, I trust he > > is alright as well. (You there, Bruce?) > > -- > > Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana > > > Yes, I'm still here. My house sits a couple blocks from the river and the > tornado skated by here about a mile or so from me coming from Ellis Park > Race Track. Waay too close for comfort. My phone started ringing off the > hook about 6:00 in the morning...people wanting to know if I had made it > through the tornado...I was having coffee and reading the paper and I didn't > have a clue until I turned on the tv. The majority of deaths were in the > mobile home park but there was massive damage further on in some upscale > subdivisions of Newburgh, but no loss of life there. It just turned > everything into a pile of toothpicks and rubble. > > Thanks to all that have emailed me, I appreciate that very much. I've > answered but as far as I know the replies did not get out. My ISP is having > problems because of the damage and I don't know if this will make it out. > Thanks for your concern. > > Bruce > > Article: 325474 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <_pobf.370$Id6.241@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <0hnsm1h4h5r9llc3mrv5p1d208o8vegcbo@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Comparing old prices/earnings to new? Message-ID: <17Pbf.1116$Id6.138@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:51:09 GMT Gee, I should feel rich? Blessed with good health, great family, nice home, collector car and a handful of old radios, yes -- but rich, let's just say not yet. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:o4xbf.549519$xm3.133955@attbi_s21... > In article <0hnsm1h4h5r9llc3mrv5p1d208o8vegcbo@4ax.com>, baltimora@psu.edu > says... >> >> >> >>>Now compare some other things -- how about a house? Around here a >>>typical 3 >>>bedroom ranch is going for $400,000. >> >>As someone who will be entering the housing market soon as a first >>time buyer this is very depressing. > > Hi Andy and Gary.... Well I will admit that I don't live in "Vacationland" > like Gary does... and homes here for the most part although they have gone > up in prices.... nothing like all this boom stuff I keep hearing about.. > > Here in Ft Wayne, IN ... most 2 and 3 bedroom slab ranch homes that are > 30-40 years old... have been updated with new windows, kitchens, bathrooms > etc... they sell in the 85 to 95k range... another radio collector > buddy just built a new house and sold his 8 year old one... 8 years > old... all brick exterior.. 3 bedrooms 2 baths... oversize for todays > standards two car garage... so he had someplace for his boat and > workshop... > the cars had to live outside!.. radios much more important... super > nice suburban housing addition and Frank got $129k for the place.... > > His new place.... well this time its a super sized 3 car garage... the > 3rd bay is 36 feet deep..... yup the back 14 feet walled off for his > work area on the old radios.. and the cars will finally get to live > inside... this one is about 2000 sq feet or home.... brand brand > new subdivision 3 car super sized garage... all brick across the front > of this one and vinyl siding on the rest of it.... 200K for this > one... > > so at least here in Northern Indiana... housing is reasonably affordable. > > nothing like where Gary is... there... everything is outta sight! > > John k9uwa > Article: 325475 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: d Subject: Almost 800 Dollars For A Transoceanic? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:59:14 GMT I've been watching this Ebay auction for a few days and can't quite believe how high the price has gone! Yeah, it looks to be is excellent shape but....damn. http://cgi.ebay.com/Zenith-B600-Trans-Oceanic-shortwave-Radio-Excellent_W0QQitemZ6574437703QQcategoryZ38035QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Hmmm...the url is about four feet long and so no doubt won't be workable when this gets posted, so just go to Ebay and do a search for "Zenith Trans-oceanic" to see it. The radio is a B600. Article: 325476 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Ampeg J12-T Schematic Needed Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 17:19:08 -0500 Any idea where I can find one? I've checked Schematic Heaven, no luck. Ken Article: 325477 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: bendix 'magic dial' answers yet? Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 15:49:51 -0700 Message-ID: this must be the month for them. i just picked up a model 697A and of course the 'wood' is flaking on the dial. sure will make a cool table/radio when its finished. just wondering if anybody found any solutions yet? thx randy Article: 325478 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: OT: Pay Pal Payments Ebay Guido Collector Type needed Springfield,MO Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 16:09:53 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131066553.524341.62230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <436c2bdd_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> yeah the shipping + risk of damage is very high it seems. i turned down a console today, just dont have the room and i know i cant get rid of it easy. but couldnt pass up a bendix 697A for 5$ that actually works (needs a recap though, hums like mad). looks like several in the group found some recently and we all got flaking wood/paint on the dial :( randy > Guess I missed your point... yes I imagine that they all pay attention > to the cost of shipping... no big deal when its a 2 pound item.. but > very big deal when item is large and or heavy... yes for sure... > thats probably the mail reason we don't see our console radios jumping > off the pages at fleabay for big bucks... unless two bidders who are > close enough to drive and pick it up decide they want one... > > Or the rarer stuff that has high enough prices that the shipping portion > even though expensive isnt a large part of it... > > John > Article: 325479 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Almost 800 Dollars For A Transoceanic? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:12:22 GMT "d" wrote in message news:S6Qbf.140608$7b6.27820@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > I've been watching this Ebay auction for a few days and can't quite > believe how high the price has gone! Yeah, it looks to be is excellent > shape but....damn. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Zenith-B600-Trans-Oceanic-shortwave-Radio-Excellent_W0QQitemZ6574437703QQcategoryZ38035QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Hmmm...the url is about four feet long and so no doubt won't be workable > when this gets posted, so just go to Ebay and do a search for "Zenith > Trans-oceanic" to see it. The radio is a B600. You can always get a much shorter link by clicking on the number of bids to view the bid history, and on that page clicking the link for "Back to item description" at the top of the page. Then you end up with this in the address bar: http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=6574437703 jim menning Article: 325480 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Refinishing Brass Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 16:13:22 -0700 Message-ID: <5587-436FDF92-1119@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <_oObf.11798$2k5.2527@dukeread09> I also use toner . Nothing you can buy and spray on will be as tough as an original probably baked on finish . i have read several ways of doing this .. kits you can buy to antique or gun bluing kits ... i du-no ? Article: 325481 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: RR email is down Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:26:30 GMT Road Runner email has been off line in the Carolinas for more than 24 hours and they have no idea when it'll be back up. Thank goodness the News server is working as is Internet. It's just like drugs, they get you hooked on it, then take it away. Going through email withdrawal... Ron Article: 325482 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Re: Almost 800 Dollars For A Transoceanic? Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 18:36:38 -0500 Message-ID: References: On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 16:29:03 -0800, Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote: >d wrote: >> I've been watching this Ebay auction for a few days and can't quite >> believe how high the price has gone! Yeah, it looks to be is excellent >> shape but....damn. >> > >Fools and their money.......... Are they really fools? Here is a true classic in top condition. A collector with the means to bid might bid $800 or even a grand or more. He is a collector and is buying what he likes. Is that a fool or just a collector who can indulge his hobby? I think the latter. The fool is the guy who pays 5 grand for it at the estate auction after the collector croaks. JMHO From adouglasatgis.net Sat Nov 12 05:54:50 EST 2005 Article: 325483 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: bendix 'magic dial' answers yet? Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 18:29:13 -0500 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 20 Message-ID: <8eovm1h4vq9erpog6nsa6dck942s5unt0k@4ax.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-235.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news2 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:325483 Hi, Randy asked: >this must be the month for them. i just picked up a model 697A and of >course the 'wood' is flaking on the dial. sure will make a cool table/radio >when its finished. > >just wondering if anybody found any solutions yet? No, but it makes a handy table for the VCR and DVD recorder while I transfer some tapes. Rock-Sea evidently has a scan of the dial, and a technique for applying it to the back of the glass. That's better than nothing but not original. Seems it would be worth someone's time to silk-screen these on a swap basis and also offer new versions on plexiglas to replace broken originals. The table itself is a rather nice piece of furniture, solid mahogany, under that faded lacquer. Alan Article: 325484 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Subject: Re: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. Date: 7 Nov 2005 19:23:41 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1131389616.817847.288290@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> retroteckh@aol.com wrote: > >I would look at thrift stores like the Goodwill for an old colour TV >(tube type) and >salvage the power transformer out of it. Sadly, most of those were hot chassis. However, a very interesting device is the microwave oven transformer. 110V in, 1KV out, varying from half a kilowatt to a kilowatt. The transformer core is split so you can easily take turns off to lower the secondary voltage, too. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Article: 325485 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" References: Subject: Re: Almost 800 Dollars For A Transoceanic? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 16:33:43 -0800 To some -- money is no object And then - catch this one "The blue and white gingham dress worn by Judy Garland in "The Wizard of Oz" was sold for $252,000 at auction Wednesday. URL: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/04/27/entertainment/main691254.shtml One can listen to the Zenith Few can wear Judy's dress Guess people are different huh -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "jim menning" wrote in message news:qbRbf.14438$8K4.5043@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "d" wrote in message > news:S6Qbf.140608$7b6.27820@twister.nyroc.rr.com... >> I've been watching this Ebay auction for a few days and can't quite >> believe how high the price has gone! Yeah, it looks to be is excellent >> shape but....damn. >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/Zenith-B600-Trans-Oceanic-shortwave-Radio-Excellent_W0QQitemZ6574437703QQcategoryZ38035QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >> >> Hmmm...the url is about four feet long and so no doubt won't be workable >> when this gets posted, so just go to Ebay and do a search for "Zenith >> Trans-oceanic" to see it. The radio is a B600. > > You can always get a much shorter link by clicking on the number of bids > to view the bid history, and on that page clicking the link for "Back to > item description" at the top of the page. Then you end up with this in > the address bar: > > http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=6574437703 > > jim menning > > > Article: 325486 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" References: Subject: Re: Almost 800 Dollars For A Transoceanic? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 16:38:25 -0800 "Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message news:C9ednRojX6gsf_LenZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@gbronline.com... >d wrote: >> I've been watching this Ebay auction for a few days and can't quite >> believe how high the price has gone! Yeah, it looks to be is excellent >> shape but....damn. >> > > Fools and their money.......... Nah -- to the rich -- price is no object Probably the $800 is a second of interest on their millions or billions Any way it is their money -- spend it as they want sez I Besides why shud you care ??? Article: 325487 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: Almost 800 Dollars For A Transoceanic? Date: 8 Nov 2005 00:47:28 GMT Message-ID: References: "Caveat Lector" (UALLBeware@9984reader.com) writes: > "Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message > news:C9ednRojX6gsf_LenZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@gbronline.com... >>d wrote: >>> I've been watching this Ebay auction for a few days and can't quite >>> believe how high the price has gone! Yeah, it looks to be is excellent >>> shape but....damn. >>> >> >> Fools and their money.......... > > Nah -- to the rich -- price is no object > Probably the $800 is a second of interest on their millions or billions > Any way it is their money -- spend it as they want sez I > Besides why shud you care ??? > > I suspect it's more like "I can't be bothered fussing around for one I can get, so I might as well just run up the bid this time. I won't miss the money". There is often a trade between time and money. Those who don't have money use time to make things up, be it doing things themselves (using time rather than money) or patience (if I don't rush at this, I can make the best use of my money). Those who have lots of money don't want to fuss with making that sandwich, or waiting for a copy of The Radioron Designer's Handbook to appear at that used book sale for $2. They place a premium on their time, so they'd rather spend money than time. But of course, those who have time but little money, often the trip is as important as the destination. Fixing up that old radio is an end in itself, while the person who can pay someone else to do it misses out on that. Michael Article: 325488 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Fred C" Subject: tapped volume controls Message-ID: <436ff52c$1@news.meer.net> Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 19:45:31 -0500 Some radios use a volume control that is tapped near the center of the element and connects to a capacitor and resistor. I have always thought of it as tone compensation. These controls seem to be hard to find new. How do these circuits work, and why are they used? What happens if I leave it out? Is the effect noticeable to the ear? None of my books cover this. I have the MYE Manual 3rd edition, but it doesn't cover it. Article: 325489 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "crazy frog" References: <436ff52c$1@news.meer.net> Subject: Re: tapped volume controls Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 11:22:43 +1000 Message-ID: <436ffdca$0$30055$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> its for the loudness controll, when you turn the volume up past the half way mark it cuts the loudness off at that point. "Fred C" wrote in message news:436ff52c$1@news.meer.net... > Some radios use a volume control that is tapped near the center of the > element and connects to a capacitor and resistor. I have always thought of > it as tone compensation. These controls seem to be hard to find new. > > How do these circuits work, and why are they used? What happens if I leave > it out? Is the effect noticeable to the ear? None of my books cover this. > I have the MYE Manual 3rd edition, but it doesn't cover it. > > Article: 325490 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: bendix 'magic dial' answers yet? Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 18:44:25 -0700 Message-ID: References: me? mine is the one that looks like a coffee table with a back part with two drawers, but they arent drawers.... model 697A also, the top slides open and it looks like there was something special there. anybody know what that is? if the bottom were solid, you could just use it for storage, but theres a definite cutout there, and on mine there is nothing in it. if i didnt know better (or at least think i did), i would almost guess a turntable fit there... randy "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:V92dnfaR_KW2fvLeRVn-gQ@giganews.com... > Same model? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mike > Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono > Sent: Friday, October 21, 2005 6:38 AM > Subject: Re: Speaking of decals: Bendix drop-leaf table magic dial > > > These dials are still available. E-mail to dials at juno dot com. > > Mike > Rock-Sea Enterprises > > "xrongor" wrote in message > news:dkolma$8hc1$1@news3.infoave.net... >> this must be the month for them. i just picked up a model 697A and of >> course the 'wood' is flaking on the dial. sure will make a cool >> table/radio when its finished. >> >> just wondering if anybody found any solutions yet? >> >> thx >> randy > > Article: 325491 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Refinishing Brass From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: <40Ubf.312849$084.48532@attbi_s22> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 02:25:04 GMT In article , blacksmith1@wowway.com says... > > something in the back of what memory I have left said... Citric Acid or something like that would "Age" shiney brass quickly?.. John k9uwa Article: 325492 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <3sv3jjFqbeo3U1@individual.net> <1131057662.248467.271320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131074731.238141.152960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131411374.498233.198350@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith tuning capacitor Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 02:27:02 GMT For the dog, likely so. Pit bulls are usually to dumb to know they are beaten, if that's how you train them. I do mean stooopid. "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1131411374.498233.198350@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Bob: > > Boswell has managed (brought home dead and/or alive, he being 100% > undamaged) everything up to a raccoon his size. While we were in Saudi, > he focused on rats. Eventually we trained him to leave them outside the > villa. > > A pit bull would be a walk in the park. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 325493 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <40Ubf.312849$084.48532@attbi_s22> Subject: Re: Refinishing Brass Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 02:28:56 GMT "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:40Ubf.312849$084.48532@attbi_s22... > In article , > blacksmith1@wowway.com says... > > > > > something in the back of what memory I have left said... Citric Acid > or something like that would "Age" shiney brass quickly?.. > > John k9uwa Phosphoric? Article: 325494 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 22:35:17 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Refinishing Brass References: <40Ubf.312849$084.48532@attbi_s22> Message-ID: <625d4$43700ee6$4232be6f$15941@COQUI.NET> John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > In article , > blacksmith1@wowway.com says... > >> > something in the back of what memory I have left said... Citric Acid > or something like that would "Age" shiney brass quickly?.. > > John k9uwa > > I've heard of some concoction made with egg yolks and another using ammonia fumes. Should be detailled in the archives on Google Groups. Neither worked for me. Part of the unpredictability is that it seems so many pieces were made with different brass alloys. -Bill Article: 325495 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Almost 800 Dollars For A Transoceanic? Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 19:37:17 -0700 Message-ID: References: "John Bachman" wrote in message news:t3pvm15pdme8srojaf7i7678fv0fe3jnks@4ax.com... > On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 16:29:03 -0800, Cmdr Buzz Corey > wrote: > >>d wrote: >>> I've been watching this Ebay auction for a few days and can't quite >>> believe how high the price has gone! Yeah, it looks to be is excellent >>> shape but....damn. >>> >> >>Fools and their money.......... > > Are they really fools? Here is a true classic in top condition. A > collector with the means to bid might bid $800 or even a grand or > more. He is a collector and is buying what he likes. not to mention, 800$ isnt exactly that much money.... dont get me wrong, i'd love a free 800$. but in the greater scheme, for something you will really like and cherish, not that much. randy Article: 325496 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: bendix 'magic dial' answers yet? Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 19:38:09 -0700 Message-ID: References: "xrongor" wrote in message news:dkovtl$8m2q$1@news3.infoave.net... > me? mine is the one that looks like a coffee table with a back part with > two drawers, but they arent drawers.... model 697A > > also, the top slides open and it looks like there was something special > there. anybody know what that is? if the bottom were solid, you could > just use it for storage, but theres a definite cutout there, and on mine > there is nothing in it. if i didnt know better (or at least think i did), > i would almost guess a turntable fit there... wtf... the more i look, the more im wondering. did a turntable go there??? randy Article: 325497 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: Subject: Re: Almost 800 Dollars For A Transoceanic? Message-ID: <%fUbf.1432$ZA3.310914@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 02:42:03 GMT "xrongor" wrote in message news:dkp30q$8ni2$1@news3.infoave.net... > > Are they really fools? Here is a true classic in top condition. A > > collector with the means to bid might bid $800 or even a grand or > > more. He is a collector and is buying what he likes. > > not to mention, 800$ isnt exactly that much money.... > > dont get me wrong, i'd love a free 800$. but in the greater scheme, for > something you will really like and cherish, not that much. > > randy I would still rather buy 100 for $8 each Article: 325498 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Almost 800 Dollars For A Transoceanic? Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 19:43:33 -0700 Message-ID: <5587-437010D5-1133@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: Last year or so i was watching a some program showcasing some of todays stars . Britney Spears will go out and spend $75000 on crap in about 2 hours . Donald Trump is probably buying that radio :-) Article: 325499 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 18:45:42 -0800 Message-ID: <18127-43701156-162@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> References: From: kludge@panix.com (Scott=A0Dorsey) retroteckh@aol.com wrote: >I would look at thrift stores like the >Goodwill for an old colour TV (tube type) >and salvage the power transformer out of >it. > >Sadly, most of those were hot chassis. Negatory, good buddy. By and large, transformer operated color chasses were isolated from the AC line. In fact the 'hot chassis' practice was abandoned long before the advent of color TV sets. Bill(oc) Article: 325500 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 22:02:46 -0500 Today I picked up my new toy, a Eico 660 store self service tube tester which is made by Mercury. I also bought a vintage tube tester sign, both on ebay from 2 different sellers. Details and photos at http://www.tuberadios.com/eico660/ Regards, Sal Brisindi http://www,tuberadios.com cc:antique radio forum Article: 325501 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: bendix 'magic dial' answers yet? Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 19:59:30 -0700 Message-ID: References: answered my own question. damn, now i need to find a turntable! randy > wtf... the more i look, the more im wondering. did a turntable go > there??? Article: 325502 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Almost 800 Dollars For A Transoceanic? Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 20:02:05 -0700 Message-ID: References: <5587-437010D5-1133@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> oh man, rich people on reality tv shows, dont even get me started lol. i still remember watching ozzy spend enough to feed a family of 4 for 3 months on a drawer full of candy. randy > Last year or so i was watching a some program showcasing some of todays > stars . Britney Spears will go out and spend $75000 on crap in about 2 > hours . Donald Trump is probably buying that radio :-) > Article: 325503 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: Almost 800 Dollars For A Transoceanic? References: <7qydnRxPoqj2e_LeRVn-rA@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 22:09:06 -0500 Phil Nelson wrote: > I wouldn't mind having those phones, but otherwise it's a $100-$125 TO in my > humble opinion. Anybody can re-color the cabinet with black liquid shoe dye, > polish the plastic parts with Novus Plastic Polish #2, and shine up the > clasp with Brasso or (shudder!) steel wool. > > Leave your checkbook at home and don't pay someone a $700 premium for making > it pretty :-) > > Just my $0.02. > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > Were the headphones an option with the TO, or did they come with the set? (I don't recall the TO even having a headphone jack, where was it?) In any case that is a VERY nice looking radio, unless the photos were doctored. Anybody catch what the reserve was? Article: 325504 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Re: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 20:21:37 -0700 Message-ID: References: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> Sal, That is WAY cool !!! I'd love to have one of those. Maybe I'll have to start looking for one. Ben "Sal Brisindi" wrote in message news:43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net... > Today I picked up my new toy, a Eico 660 store self service tube tester > which is made by Mercury. I also bought a vintage tube tester sign, both > on ebay from 2 different sellers. Details and photos at > http://www.tuberadios.com/eico660/ > > Regards, > Sal Brisindi > http://www,tuberadios.com > > cc:antique radio forum > > Article: 325505 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Henry Kolesnik" References: Subject: Re: odd variable capacitor ? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 03:37:04 GMT After checking out the patent no. 1626391, I misread the number previously. It was patent in 1927 so I guess it was for TRF receivers, giving them a wider tuning range and perhaps a neater dial cal. Does anyone recall who might have used them? tnx -- 73 Hank WD5JFR "Henry Kolesnik" wrote in message news:XmIbf.13980$Zv5.4652@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... > Please take a look at > alt.binaries.schematics.electronic > > tnx > > > -- > > 73 > Hank WD5JFR > > > > Article: 325506 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith "5808" From: lherault@bu.edu References: <436ecfb8_1@newsfeed.slurp.net> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 04:23:07 GMT Message-ID: <43702774_3@newsfeed.slurp.net> So far, I've only seen a picture. I got the number from matching the picture to one on a Zenith website. I hope I never jump all over a less knowledgeable phono collector like the first responder to this thread came down on me. Sheesh. I've also been told that the radio works and does not have a scratch on it. I've yet to see it to confirm all this though. I'll keep the group posted - but I'll put on welder's goggles to read the responses 8-). Article: 325507 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Re: Refinishing Brass Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:27:35 -0700 Message-ID: <22430-43702937-120@storefull-3333.bay.webtv.net> References: Old scientific instruments were colored and protected by dipping the slightly warmed item (as warm as your hand) in a very dilute solution of orange shellac. I use about two table spoons of 3# cut shellac in about 1/2 cup of denatured alcohol. Give the item as high a polish ( I like Simichrome) as you can before dipping and on removal give it a hard shake and let dry. I have a spray can of a product that is a special gold colored lacquer it is used to give brass a simulated 24 kt. It is almost clear and is used by music box restores to give brass that golden color you see on music boxes cylinders and other brass parts. Just got it and only used it once on a small but it looked good . It is called "Special Gold Colored 2105 Lacquer" with the brand name Nikolas. Address is: G. J. Nickolas & Co. Inc. 2800 Washington Bellwood, Ill. 60104 DON AC7PD Article: 325508 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Scott W. Harvey Subject: Re: Almost 800 Dollars For A Transoceanic? Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:22:41 -0800 Message-ID: References: <7qydnRxPoqj2e_LeRVn-rA@giganews.com> On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 22:09:06 -0500, Ken Scharf wrote: >> >Were the headphones an option with the TO, or did they come with the >set? (I don't recall the TO even having a headphone jack, where was >it?) >In any case that is a VERY nice looking radio, unless the photos were >doctored. Anybody catch what the reserve was? The headphones are genuine, and designed for listening to a TO in a plane or bus, where some people may not share the listener's enthusiasm for shortwave. Note the flat, 90 degree angle plug-That was designed for TOs that had the headphone jack in the rear of the chassis, so you could plug them into the set and still close the back cover of the cabinet all the way. I have seen these phones shown in a sales brochure for the TO as an option. The phones are a fairly rare option, although I don't know how much of a premium I would place on them. They are kind of in the same rarity class as the plug-in ballast adaptor thingie that Zenith offered for listening to a TO on 220 Volts. One set out a few dozen encountered might have the option, most will not. A nice restoration job-but not $760+ nice. There are at least three sets here on the shelf awaiting their turn that I could make look just as nice with the right amount of patience. It ain't that hard if the stag covering is fully intact and the dial plastic is unscathed. -Scott DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Thousands of vintage radio schematics available at The Schematic Bank: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/schematics/ Archive of Alt.Binaries.Pictures.Radio postings: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/abpr/ Universal Schematic Locator-finds schematics in Rider, Beitman, and Sams: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/USL_FILES/uslpage.htm Article: 325509 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 6X5's Converted to Diodes - Why? From: Larry References: <4cX8f.35571$fE5.34186@fed1read06> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 23:52:56 -0500 "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in news:yyAbf.1345$ZA3.298885@monger.newsread.com: > Is the entire 6X- series inherently troublesome? > > Not all the 6X4s are troublesome. Replacing ours with a Soviet 6X4 made for a tank and you never get to sell 'em another one....5U4 same way. Look inside an American 5U4. The filament ribbon just lays on the mica. Look inside a Sovtek 5U4. Notice the beautiful springs that support the far-more-expensive heater that LOOKS like it belongs in a tank. In our defense, noone has made an American 6X4 in a long time. The Russians are still making them, and making them better. -- Larry Article: 325510 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: tapped volume controls From: Larry References: <436ff52c$1@news.meer.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 00:01:11 -0500 "Fred C" wrote in news:436ff52c$1@news.meer.net: > How do these circuits work, and why are they used? What happens if I > leave it out? Is the effect noticeable to the ear? None of my books > cover this. I have the MYE Manual 3rd edition, but it doesn't cover > it. > > When the volume control is set low, below the tap, the circuit amounts to a series resistor (the top part of the control) then the tapped components to ground usually shunting off the highs or boosting the lows, then the resistor network of the control below the tap, upper in series, lower to ground forming the volume potentiometer. When volume is low, there isn't enough power in the bass to drive the woofers, especially old woofers with hard paper cones and inflexible surrounds. The boost is present until you get above the tap, where the bass boost drops sharply as you move the wiper further up past the tap. You're right, it's a tone control dependent on how you set the volume control.....and hard to find. -- Larry Article: 325511 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Re: Refinishing Brass Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 21:50:00 -0700 Message-ID: <22430-43702E78-121@storefull-3333.bay.webtv.net> References: In regard to my previous post. In order to get an even coat from spray lacquer and other coatings for polished brass you must apply enough to wet the surface and you wind up with a coating that is so thick that it reduces the shine that you worked so hard to get. You can,t apply it thin and get an even coat. That is one reason that the deluted, colored shellac gives a better result. DON AC7PD Article: 325512 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Scott W. Harvey Subject: Re: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:49:08 -0800 Message-ID: References: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> I picked up a somewhat similar store tester about 2 years ago for $1.00. Mine is a tabletop model and was designed to be used in Sears Roebuck stores to sell Silvertone-branded replacement tubes, and has the "silvertone" brand name on the tester itself. I have no idea who made it, but it is definitely a simple emissions tester. Rumor has it that these testers were deliberately and generously under-calibrated so that pretty-good-but-not-great tubes would register as "weak" on the tester. Somewhere, I have a Cunningham book from the 20s that shows the tube layouts for all of the popular sets of the day. At the front of the book there is a section intended for salesmen that gives tips on how to use the in-store tube tester to sell more tubes. One of the tips goes something like this: "Advise the customer with a weak tube that her other tubes, even though they register "good" on the tester, are probably going to weaken soon, and should all be replaced with fresh tubes to ensure optimum performance." "Once the sale of a replacement tube is made, the salesman should break the old tube in view of the customer. This will give your customer extra assurance that only new, factory-fresh tubes are being sold at your establishment." -Scott On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 20:21:37 -0700, "benjamaniac" wrote: > Sal, > That is WAY cool !!! I'd love to have one of those. Maybe I'll have >to start looking for one. > Ben > > >"Sal Brisindi" wrote in message >news:43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net... >> Today I picked up my new toy, a Eico 660 store self service tube tester >> which is made by Mercury. I also bought a vintage tube tester sign, both >> on ebay from 2 different sellers. Details and photos at >> http://www.tuberadios.com/eico660/ >> >> Regards, >> Sal Brisindi >> http://www,tuberadios.com >> >> cc:antique radio forum >> >> > DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Thousands of vintage radio schematics available at The Schematic Bank: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/schematics/ Archive of Alt.Binaries.Pictures.Radio postings: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/abpr/ Universal Schematic Locator-finds schematics in Rider, Beitman, and Sams: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/USL_FILES/uslpage.htm Article: 325513 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> Subject: Re: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 05:09:32 GMT "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:oba0n1l3lt4kop70ocpqvm39pht2fr7q08@4ax.com... > I picked up a somewhat similar store tester about 2 years ago for > $1.00. Mine is a tabletop model and was designed to be used in Sears > Roebuck stores to sell Silvertone-branded replacement tubes, and has > the "silvertone" brand name on the tester itself. I have no idea who > made it, but it is definitely a simple emissions tester. > > Rumor has it that these testers were deliberately and generously > under-calibrated so that pretty-good-but-not-great tubes would > register as "weak" on the tester. > > Somewhere, I have a Cunningham book from the 20s that shows the tube > layouts for all of the popular sets of the day. At the front of the > book there is a section intended for salesmen that gives tips on how > to use the in-store tube tester to sell more tubes. One of the tips > goes something like this: "Advise the customer with a weak tube that > her other tubes, even though they register "good" on the tester, are > probably going to weaken soon, and should all be replaced with fresh > tubes to ensure optimum performance." > > "Once the sale of a replacement tube is made, the salesman should > break the old tube in view of the customer. This will give your > customer extra assurance that only new, factory-fresh tubes are being > sold at your establishment." > > > -Scott Ah, yes--the earliest "planned obsolescence" plan. > > > > On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 20:21:37 -0700, "benjamaniac" > wrote: > > > Sal, > > That is WAY cool !!! I'd love to have one of those. Maybe I'll have > >to start looking for one. > > Ben > > > > > >"Sal Brisindi" wrote in message > >news:43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net... > >> Today I picked up my new toy, a Eico 660 store self service tube tester > >> which is made by Mercury. I also bought a vintage tube tester sign, both > >> on ebay from 2 different sellers. Details and photos at > >> http://www.tuberadios.com/eico660/ > >> > >> Regards, > >> Sal Brisindi > >> http://www,tuberadios.com > >> > >> cc:antique radio forum > >> > >> > > > > DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! > Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: > http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm > (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) > > Thousands of vintage radio schematics available at The Schematic Bank: > http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/schematics/ > > Archive of Alt.Binaries.Pictures.Radio postings: > http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/abpr/ > > Universal Schematic Locator-finds schematics in Rider, Beitman, and Sams: > http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/USL_FILES/uslpage.htm Article: 325514 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Help: Frying power transformer Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 22:12:49 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1131338472.027874.6130@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131404103.306176.229810@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 14:55:03 -0800, dkelvey wrote: > Hi > It could have been a failure of something in the loads but > it could have been entirely in the transformer. A loose > winding or poor wire coating could have caused the failure. > As someone else stated, make sure everything is disconnected > from the secondary before giving up on the transformer. > Dwight > > Daniele wrote: >> nesesu wrote: >> >> > An internal interturn short on ANY winding will put a heavy load on >> > the primary, since that has to supply the power to the short, but not >> > on the secondary winding leadouts since no extra current flows thare. >> > The windings are prone to fail in the order of: HV secondary due to >> > relatively fine wire; Primary due to being stressed by all overloads; >> > Rectifier filament due to high 'offset' voltage; Main filament low >> > likelyhood of failure. >> > Keep in mind that the turn to turn voltage stress is the same on all >> > windings of a given transformer, so that stress is usually quite >> > reasonable BUT transformer overheating due to overload will cause >> > failure of the inter-layer insulation and the higher voltage the >> > winding the higher the voltage stress between winding layers and thus >> > the order of likely failures mentioned above. >> > >> > Neil S. >> >> So,can i think about a short in the radio circuitry now overloading >> the transformer? If i get correct voltages on secondaries, could be possible >> a short between secondaries? (...not a trouble in replacing the transformer, >> just more knowledge for the future..) >> >> -- >> >> Daniele ^___^ >> http://www.tuberadio.it A short between windings (any of them) or a short from a winding to the core can be found with an ohmmeter. Shorted turns cannot. Occasionally you may run into a transformer that has windings internally connected or has a winding with more than one tap. These can be confusing; a schematic is a big help at this point. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 325515 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1131144058.002238.178540@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131409506.167666.160270@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Comparing old prices/earnings to new? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 05:43:34 GMT "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:1131409506.167666.160270@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > jim menning wrote: >> > Ford sold thousands of Model A Shay replicars in the late 1970's >> > early 1980's. >> >> Paul, I just checked eBay. There is one for sale not far from you. >> If you're curious, check it out! >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4586612658 >> >> jim menning > > You're right, I am too young to remember that. That's nifty. Just ended > now, didn't make reserve. That *would* be cool to take to the emission > test. :) You got emissions tests down there? That must be because you're a lot closer to Illinois than I am. We don't have any testing up here yet. > > Awesome deal on that Chevy too. Won't hold many consoles though. Couldn't manuever one in if I tried. I couldn't even fit the golf clubs in the trunk without putting the back seat down. I'll keep the van for the radio hobby. jim menning Article: 325516 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Almost 800 Dollars For A Transoceanic? Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 23:52:06 -0700 Message-ID: References: <7qydnRxPoqj2e_LeRVn-rA@giganews.com> > A nice restoration job-but not $760+ nice. There are at least three > sets here on the shelf awaiting their turn that I could make look just > as nice with the right amount of patience. It ain't that hard if the > stag covering is fully intact and the dial plastic is unscathed. all my stuff would be worth a fortune if it just wasnt used, or scratched, or dirty, or not intact, and with the right amount of patience someone just paid over 760$ for it, which is the one true definition of being worth that much. i'd say you better get busy! randy Article: 325517 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <7qydnRxPoqj2e_LeRVn-rA@giganews.com> Subject: Re: Almost 800 Dollars For A Transoceanic? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 06:54:49 GMT My stuff has always been worth a fortune to me, because I need it, it is useful and I enjoy it regardless of it's appearance. "xrongor" wrote in message news:dkphuj$8sfr$1@news3.infoave.net... > > A nice restoration job-but not $760+ nice. There are at least three > > sets here on the shelf awaiting their turn that I could make look just > > as nice with the right amount of patience. It ain't that hard if the > > stag covering is fully intact and the dial plastic is unscathed. > > all my stuff would be worth a fortune if it just wasnt used, or scratched, > or dirty, or not intact, and with the right amount of patience > > someone just paid over 760$ for it, which is the one true definition of > being worth that much. i'd say you better get busy! > > randy > > Article: 325518 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43709C31.7946CC2A@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester References: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 07:38:09 -0500 Thanks Ben, Although I didn't pay $1.00 like Steve Harvey did (I wish I did) I am glad I bought it. Regards, Sal benjamaniac wrote: > Sal, > That is WAY cool !!! I'd love to have one of those. Maybe I'll have > to start looking for one. > Ben > > "Sal Brisindi" wrote in message > news:43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net... > > Today I picked up my new toy, a Eico 660 store self service tube tester > > which is made by Mercury. I also bought a vintage tube tester sign, both > > on ebay from 2 different sellers. Details and photos at > > http://www.tuberadios.com/eico660/ > > > > Regards, > > Sal Brisindi > > http://www,tuberadios.com > > > > cc:antique radio forum > > > > Article: 325519 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4370B523.A127EFDF@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester References: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> <1131456296.473128.225750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 09:24:35 -0500 Hi Robert, I will scan the schematic tonight and email it to you. Thanks for the info on the Mercury 204. Regards, Sal "electron@grapevine.net" wrote: > Sal Brisindi wrote: > > Today I picked up my new toy, a Eico 660 store self service tube tester > > which is made by Mercury. I also bought a vintage tube tester sign, both > > on ebay from 2 different sellers. Details and photos at > > http://www.tuberadios.com/eico660/ > > > > Regards, > > Sal Brisindi > > http://www,tuberadios.com > > > > cc:antique radio forum > > Very cool! > > FWIW Eico was indeed in some way 'connected' there with Mercury; your > tester is in fact identical to a Mercury 204 *except* that the Eico has > the vibrator test provisions deleted (i.e. sockets 32 and 33; don't > know what socket 25 was for, a weird one, both of my Mercury 204's have > that one too.) > > Panel layout, knobs etc the same (except the missing sockets and the > two vibrator lamps also on the Merc 204); the other sockets are > numbered identically. Wouldn't be surprised if the tube chart for a 204 > wouldn't work (except the vibrator settings, of course.) > > FWIW2 I've a directory of scans for Mercury 204 charts, located here: > http://www.braught.com/TestEquip/Mercury204/ > > Any chance I could i.e. trade info and get a scanned copy of the > schematic (? I don't have any factory service info for my Merc 204's) > > Cheers, > -Robert Article: 325520 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130959023.112407.211320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131452042.383640.59070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Coincidence at the AK Corral? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:12:47 GMT Yay. I'm proud of you. Now read Grumpy's post on the matter and stop bugging us. "OvenMaster" wrote in message news:1131452042.383640.59070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Nobody wants to pay for AK? I contribute when I can and am glad to do > so.Others either cannot pay because of personal financial issues, and > others do not pay because they feel no pressing need to do so. To each > their own conscience. From what I saw, the Classifieds were abused by > people signing up and immediately trying to avoid paying eBay fees by > using AK's server to post their items for sale. > I've seen my share of flame wars and have tried to stay away from them. > I've even been in a few, and was quite successful in holding my own. > I have no problem in how they run the place. I was even offered a mod > position but had to turn it down for personal reasons... to my great > disappointment. > As far as enjoyment's concerned, AK has every other audio forum beat, > hands down and will publicly say so. > Tom > Article: 325521 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130959023.112407.211320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:15:03 GMT Yep. BFD. "OvenMaster" wrote in message news:1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > I replied as soon as I checked my email box. Sorry for the delay, as I > have had ISP issues. > > Everyone's entitled to their own opinions. I like AK and am happy with > it. If someone is not happy with it, then it's their right to say so. > > AK is not "precious". It's a website with good and bad points. It's not > perfect. No site is. All "defending" AK will do is attract flames from > those who dislike it. Some like it and some don't. BFD. > Article: 325522 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> <43709C31.7946CC2A@optonline.net> Subject: Re: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:14:18 GMT Steve? Harvey? Thought he worked for the WB : ) "Sal Brisindi" wrote in message news:43709C31.7946CC2A@optonline.net... > Thanks Ben, > Although I didn't pay $1.00 like Steve Harvey did (I wish I did) I am glad I > bought it. > > Regards, > Sal > > benjamaniac wrote: > > > Sal, > > That is WAY cool !!! I'd love to have one of those. Maybe I'll have > > to start looking for one. > > Ben > > > > "Sal Brisindi" wrote in message > > news:43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net... > > > Today I picked up my new toy, a Eico 660 store self service tube tester > > > which is made by Mercury. I also bought a vintage tube tester sign, both > > > on ebay from 2 different sellers. Details and photos at > > > http://www.tuberadios.com/eico660/ > > > > > > Regards, > > > Sal Brisindi > > > http://www,tuberadios.com > > > > > > cc:antique radio forum > > > > > > > Article: 325523 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> Subject: Re: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:28:11 GMT Even when calibrated correctly, these testers were a great way to make money, and a serviceman's best friend. Think about it -- how many radios have you seen that didn't work, where the problem was a tube? Yet, just like the joke about a boy who lost a nickel a block away, but is looking for it here because the light's better, tubes are easy to check; so a consumer will remove all the tubes and take them to the nearest 7-11 store for testing. Invariably at least one tube will be weak -- so he buys it, and puts the radio back together only to find it still doesn't work. The radio is then taken in for repair. A few years ago I wrote a page on "how to fix your own car radio" which walks you through the basic steps of checking for 12 volts, speaker connections, etc. For me it was a free ad, as newsletters and magazines reprinted this article (sometimes without my permission) and people used it. Generally this resulted in non-technical people trying without success to fix it, and I would get it for repair. Now that I'm back into original service the page has returned, but at present it's still too new to bring results. If you want to see what I'm talking about, it is at: http://home.gate.net/~gtayman/check.htm I'm expanding on it however. I'm planning to write some "tech tips" for various car radios, which may be as helpful to you, as technicians, as it is to me from inept people who try to do it. I've already written one that I will post soon -- how to access the on-off switch on a 1956-57 T-Bird. My next one will be how to fix a slipping tuner thumbwheel on a 68-69 Mopar. Such articles will no doubt find their way into Thunderbird/Roadrunner/etc. magazines, providing free advertising into places which would otherwise be very expensive. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:oba0n1l3lt4kop70ocpqvm39pht2fr7q08@4ax.com... >I picked up a somewhat similar store tester about 2 years ago for > $1.00. Mine is a tabletop model and was designed to be used in Sears > Roebuck stores to sell Silvertone-branded replacement tubes, and has > the "silvertone" brand name on the tester itself. I have no idea who > made it, but it is definitely a simple emissions tester. > > Rumor has it that these testers were deliberately and generously > under-calibrated so that pretty-good-but-not-great tubes would > register as "weak" on the tester. > > Somewhere, I have a Cunningham book from the 20s that shows the tube > layouts for all of the popular sets of the day. At the front of the > book there is a section intended for salesmen that gives tips on how > to use the in-store tube tester to sell more tubes. One of the tips > goes something like this: "Advise the customer with a weak tube that > her other tubes, even though they register "good" on the tester, are > probably going to weaken soon, and should all be replaced with fresh > tubes to ensure optimum performance." > > "Once the sale of a replacement tube is made, the salesman should > break the old tube in view of the customer. This will give your > customer extra assurance that only new, factory-fresh tubes are being > sold at your establishment." > > > -Scott > > > > On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 20:21:37 -0700, "benjamaniac" > wrote: > >> Sal, >> That is WAY cool !!! I'd love to have one of those. Maybe I'll >> have >>to start looking for one. >> Ben >> >> >>"Sal Brisindi" wrote in message >>news:43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net... >>> Today I picked up my new toy, a Eico 660 store self service tube tester >>> which is made by Mercury. I also bought a vintage tube tester sign, both >>> on ebay from 2 different sellers. Details and photos at >>> http://www.tuberadios.com/eico660/ >>> >>> Regards, >>> Sal Brisindi >>> http://www,tuberadios.com >>> >>> cc:antique radio forum >>> >>> >> > > DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! > Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: > http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm > (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email > unusable) > > Thousands of vintage radio schematics available at The Schematic Bank: > http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/schematics/ > > Archive of Alt.Binaries.Pictures.Radio postings: > http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/abpr/ > > Universal Schematic Locator-finds schematics in Rider, Beitman, and Sams: > http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/USL_FILES/uslpage.htm Article: 325524 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> <1131456296.473128.225750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4370B523.A127EFDF@optonline.net> Subject: Re: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester Message-ID: <3D3cf.4610$Lv.1743@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:37:35 GMT Back in the early 80's Radio Shack was dumping their in store tube testers like those. I knew several of the area store managers and rather then throw them away they gve them to me, I think I at one time had 4 of them in my basement. They were not very good testers, and as another poster said, tended to check on the side of weak, after all their purpose was to sell tubes. At the time I was not into old radios and eventually they all went to the curb ... sigh. Larry Fowkes Article: 325525 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester Date: 8 Nov 2005 16:08:07 GMT Message-ID: References: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> Sal Brisindi (salb203@optonline.net) writes: > Today I picked up my new toy, a Eico 660 store self service tube tester > which is made by Mercury. I also bought a vintage tube tester sign, both > on ebay from 2 different sellers. Details and photos at > http://www.tuberadios.com/eico660/ > Maybe it's not the find of November. Given that we are only November 8th (and I might expect you got it on the weekend), there is still at least 22 days to find something better. Not to dismiss your find, only to state that there's lots of time for something even better to come along. Michael Article: 325526 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4370E7B0.C8DC4AD1@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester References: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 13:00:16 -0500 I didn't know we were in a contest where the "better" find wins. I was just stating what I had bought... I will go into my shell now... Sal Brisindi Michael Black wrote: > Sal Brisindi (salb203@optonline.net) writes: > > Today I picked up my new toy, a Eico 660 store self service tube tester > > which is made by Mercury. I also bought a vintage tube tester sign, both > > on ebay from 2 different sellers. Details and photos at > > http://www.tuberadios.com/eico660/ > > > Maybe it's not the find of November. Given that we are only November 8th > (and I might expect you got it on the weekend), there is still at least 22 > days to find something better. Not to dismiss your find, only to state > that there's lots of time for something even better to come along. > > Michael Article: 325527 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4370EEDE.A8A9D77@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester References: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 13:30:54 -0500 Trust me, I didn't buy this tester to test my tubes as I have 8 other tube testers including a Hickok 600A and I-177a. I bought this tester as you said, for the coolness factor, plus, I like to collect vintage test equipment. Regards, Sal Brisindi http://www.tuberadios.com toxcrusadr wrote: > Eh, don't sweat it, Sal (your shell will get sticky inside!). We > enjoyed the post. Possibly Michael meant (not to put words in his > mouth) that "now that it turns out they were not real good testers, > don't feel bad, it's early yet." That, however, would be missing the > complete COOLness of having a store tester complete with sign. Anyway, > it ain't a contest. I always enjoy seeing what others have found. I > learn more about radios, and take vicarious pleasure while stuck in my > cubicle. :=| Article: 325528 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4370F0F5.EE0CB6E9@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester References: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> <43709C31.7946CC2A@optonline.net> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 13:39:49 -0500 OOps, Scott Harvey.... Sal Brisindi wrote: > Thanks Ben, > Although I didn't pay $1.00 like Steve Harvey did (I wish I did) I am glad I > bought it. > > Regards, > Sal > > benjamaniac wrote: > > > Sal, > > That is WAY cool !!! I'd love to have one of those. Maybe I'll have > > to start looking for one. > > Ben > > > > "Sal Brisindi" wrote in message > > news:43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net... > > > Today I picked up my new toy, a Eico 660 store self service tube tester > > > which is made by Mercury. I also bought a vintage tube tester sign, both > > > on ebay from 2 different sellers. Details and photos at > > > http://www.tuberadios.com/eico660/ > > > > > > Regards, > > > Sal Brisindi > > > http://www,tuberadios.com > > > > > > cc:antique radio forum > > > > > > Article: 325529 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Fred C" References: <436ff52c$1@news.meer.net> Subject: Re: tapped volume controls Message-ID: <4370f218@news.meer.net> Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 13:44:31 -0500 Thanks for the input guys. Now tell me does this mean that all radios not using a tapped volume control suffer from tone distortion? Isn't that what we are talking about? Isn't distortion a departure from the aggregate of all originating tones and levels nothing more or nothing less? "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns9707EDA4A9C9Enoone@63.223.7.253... > "Fred C" wrote in news:436ff52c$1@news.meer.net: > >> How do these circuits work, and why are they used? What happens if I >> leave it out? Is the effect noticeable to the ear? None of my books >> cover this. I have the MYE Manual 3rd edition, but it doesn't cover >> it. >> >> > > When the volume control is set low, below the tap, the circuit amounts to > a > series resistor (the top part of the control) then the tapped components > to > ground usually shunting off the highs or boosting the lows, then the > resistor network of the control below the tap, upper in series, lower to > ground forming the volume potentiometer. > > When volume is low, there isn't enough power in the bass to drive the > woofers, especially old woofers with hard paper cones and inflexible > surrounds. The boost is present until you get above the tap, where the > bass boost drops sharply as you move the wiper further up past the tap. > > You're right, it's a tone control dependent on how you set the volume > control.....and hard to find. > > -- > Larry Article: 325530 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <7qydnRxPoqj2e_LeRVn-rA@giganews.com> <1131472560.860244.282480@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Almost 800 Dollars For A Transoceanic? Message-ID: <9t6cf.1491$ZA3.318274@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 18:51:49 GMT Frugal? Oohs, aahs say well spent. More rent, beer, money for viseo rentals etc. "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1131472560.860244.282480@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Dang. I bought one a couple years ago at an estate auction, in real > good shape complete with wavemagnet antenna, no phones, $55. Thought I > did pretty good. 'Course I spent 3 hours at the auction. Had more > time than money that day! That set got a lot of oohs and ahhs at the > "museum installation" of old radios I did for a 30th Anniversary > reception for a radio station. > Article: 325531 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> <43709C31.7946CC2A@optonline.net> <4370F0F5.EE0CB6E9@optonline.net> Subject: Re: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 18:54:08 GMT This thread was NOT brought to you from the ABC Radio studios in Chicago, Illinois...GOOD DAY! : ) "Sal Brisindi" wrote in message news:4370F0F5.EE0CB6E9@optonline.net... > OOps, > Scott Harvey.... > > Sal Brisindi wrote: > > > Thanks Ben, > > Although I didn't pay $1.00 like Steve Harvey did (I wish I did) I am glad I > > bought it. > > > > Regards, > > Sal > > > > benjamaniac wrote: > > > > > Sal, > > > That is WAY cool !!! I'd love to have one of those. Maybe I'll have > > > to start looking for one. > > > Ben > > > > > > "Sal Brisindi" wrote in message > > > news:43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net... > > > > Today I picked up my new toy, a Eico 660 store self service tube tester > > > > which is made by Mercury. I also bought a vintage tube tester sign, both > > > > on ebay from 2 different sellers. Details and photos at > > > > http://www.tuberadios.com/eico660/ > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Sal Brisindi > > > > http://www,tuberadios.com > > > > > > > > cc:antique radio forum > > > > > > > > > Article: 325532 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: tapped volume controls Date: 8 Nov 2005 19:10:28 GMT Message-ID: References: <436ff52c$1@news.meer.net> <4370f218@news.meer.net> "Fred C" (fcrews@meer.net) writes: > Thanks for the input guys. Now tell me does this mean that all radios not > using a tapped volume control suffer from tone distortion? Isn't that what > we are talking about? Isn't distortion a departure from the aggregate of > all originating tones and levels nothing more or nothing less? > Isn't it a "loudness control"? My Radio Shack dictionary of electronics talks of the inability of the ear to respond to bass frequencies (though the wording isn't clear if they are talking generally or just at low volumes), so a "loudness control" is used to boost the bass a bit as the volume goes down. It is a "distortion", but it was fairly common in old equipment. I don't know if it's still used in modern equipment. At least, it's not specific to equipment, ie someone designed a lousy radio so they added some bass boost to compensate. It does corelated the bass boost to volume control level. The Audio Cyclopedia gives a more defined definition, but doesn't really explain what it means. Michael > "Larry" wrote in message > news:Xns9707EDA4A9C9Enoone@63.223.7.253... >> "Fred C" wrote in news:436ff52c$1@news.meer.net: >> >>> How do these circuits work, and why are they used? What happens if I >>> leave it out? Is the effect noticeable to the ear? None of my books >>> cover this. I have the MYE Manual 3rd edition, but it doesn't cover >>> it. >>> >>> >> >> When the volume control is set low, below the tap, the circuit amounts to >> a >> series resistor (the top part of the control) then the tapped components >> to >> ground usually shunting off the highs or boosting the lows, then the >> resistor network of the control below the tap, upper in series, lower to >> ground forming the volume potentiometer. >> >> When volume is low, there isn't enough power in the bass to drive the >> woofers, especially old woofers with hard paper cones and inflexible >> surrounds. The boost is present until you get above the tap, where the >> bass boost drops sharply as you move the wiper further up past the tap. >> >> You're right, it's a tone control dependent on how you set the volume >> control.....and hard to find. >> >> -- >> Larry > > Article: 325533 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester References: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 14:46:41 -0500 I have a FREE Seco tester like that with a big back lit 'FREE TUBE TESTING' sign on it. It has MANY tube sockets, all types. Doesn't work but with a one tube circuit shouldn't be hard to fix. FREE to anyone who can pick it up or pay the postage. I live in Roanoke, Va. 24018. wklw at cox dot net. Ken benjamaniac wrote: > Sal, > That is WAY cool !!! I'd love to have one of those. Maybe I'll have > to start looking for one. > Ben > > > "Sal Brisindi" wrote in message > news:43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net... > >>Today I picked up my new toy, a Eico 660 store self service tube tester >>which is made by Mercury. I also bought a vintage tube tester sign, both >>on ebay from 2 different sellers. Details and photos at >>http://www.tuberadios.com/eico660/ >> >>Regards, >>Sal Brisindi >>http://www,tuberadios.com >> >>cc:antique radio forum >> >> > > > Article: 325534 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <437103FD.B3B00339@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester References: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:01:01 -0500 Sure, now you have a free one to give away after I bought mine... ;-). Anyway Roanoke VA. is to far for me to drive. Sal Ken wrote: > I have a FREE Seco tester like that with a big back lit 'FREE TUBE > TESTING' sign on it. It has MANY tube sockets, all types. Doesn't work > but with a one tube circuit shouldn't be hard to fix. FREE to anyone who > can pick it up or pay the postage. I live in Roanoke, Va. 24018. > wklw at cox dot net. Ken Article: 325535 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: bendix 'magic dial' answers yet? Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 13:03:12 -0700 Message-ID: References: <8eovm1h4vq9erpog6nsa6dck942s5unt0k@4ax.com> <1131471438.790319.291120@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1131471438.790319.291120@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... >I haven't done anything else about mine. I don't have the > skill/knowledge to do the silkscreening thing, but it sure sounds like > a good idea. > > This IS a nice piece of furniture - if you have an appreciation for > good furniture and radios both, it's a nice set to find. > > Ain't never seen one with a turntable. Cool! i havent either yet just a big hole where one should be hehe. randy Article: 325536 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130959023.112407.211320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 21:20:06 GMT No, I can telephone you if I wanted. Stalking, bullshit...you shut most of my priveleges down around a year ago but for some reason left me able to respond to the "new classifieds" parts ads. You are worse about managing a website (money raising) than PBS anyway. If you want to come around here and bitch, go ahead. You'll get about as far as you do on AA, anyway. And since I'm certain the cc: will bounce anyway, you are being a dumb hack. I don't normally consider myself an ally with Peter, but thanks. His is displeasure, mine is disgust. So much for the egalitarian crap, David. You've just pointed out to every Google user and Usenet user that your as much a tard clown as the avatar sugggests. Not writing me alone has exposed you far better that any crack in AA. I seem to recall that he gave me that number and I was mad that he let you rejects run over so many people. You can't even keep a server up or back it up with something quickly. You're hosted by AOL--G-zus, Mr. Goldstein, and you can plan a convention without being able to run a site? Bankrupt, aren't you? You can't do damage control with me. wrote in message news:1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hello to Steven > > I see your trying to spread the good word about AK > > Funny how you make no mention of stalking several members on AK > including one of the owners. How no mention that you repeatedly called > said owners work trying to get them fired. Your list of offenses > against AK and its members requires more time then i wish to spend > here. > > I see that you have also started a love fest with Peter. How perfect a > couple you two will make. If you like we can send all of our castoffs > here so you may have one big AK love fest. > > Enjoy > Grumpy > Article: 325537 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: <1131338472.027874.6130@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131404103.306176.229810@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Help: Frying power transformer Message-ID: <5V8cf.52486$Pe2.982577@twister2.libero.it> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 21:38:09 GMT Jim Mueller wrote: > A short between windings (any of them) or a short from a winding to > the core can be found with an ohmmeter. Shorted turns cannot. > Occasionally you may run into a transformer that has windings > internally connected or has a winding with more than one tap. These > can be confusing; a schematic is a big help at this point. Now i suppose the trouble is in the HV winding. It's 317 ohm in one side and 212 in the other, a side seems to be shorted.. -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 325538 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp References: <1130959023.112407.211320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131485612.592888.327650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 15:53:16 -0600 grumpy@audiokarma.org wrote: > I encourage the owner of this google group to contact me at > grumpy@audiokarma.org Oh, oh --- me! me! I own it!!!! I own it! Sue me! "owner of this google group"... -> plonk! -- rg Article: 325539 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130959023.112407.211320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131485612.592888.327650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 21:59:41 GMT Reeeeeeealy! This group HAS NO OWNER, you are a fraud, they posted first therefore you have no protection, especially under the First Amaendment. If you are real, try it. There are a few Federal statutes available that would ultimately shut you down. You picked the wrong Gentile to **** wit' Buzz off. wrote in message news:1131485612.592888.327650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I'm so proud of you man ! > > That is the most Coherent paragraph you have ever put together ! > > While your on your meds lets see if you or the owner of this group > understands this. > > If Steven Dingus posts the full name of anyone of audiokarma's members > names again on this site www.audiokarma.org will slap both the owner of > this google group and Steven with a lawsuit ! > > We have no qualms whats so ever about spending money with lawyers to > protect ours... > > I encourage the owner of this google group to contact me at > grumpy@audiokarma.org > > Grumpy > www.audiokarma.org > Article: 325540 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <23142-436ED56E-846@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> <1131486921.068944.79210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Coincidence at the AK Corral? Message-ID: <_e9cf.1510$ZA3.320630@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:01:30 GMT Twenty-seven ninety-nine! Sold American! "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1131486921.068944.79210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > 18 > > > Ken G. wrote: > > !@#$%#@ TWELVE ! > Article: 325541 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130959023.112407.211320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:12:56 GMT That jerk just recycled my avatar and put crap in my mouth to hide! "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message news:eN8cf.1504$ZA3.320079@monger.newsread.com... > PS If this is forged... > > Path: > monger.newsread.com!news-toy.newsread.com!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!new > sread.com!panix!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.c > om!g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail > From: grumpy@audiokarma.org > Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono > Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp > Date: 8 Nov 2005 11:23:20 -0800 > Organization: http://groups.google.com > Lines: 17 > Message-ID: <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> > References: > <1130959023.112407.211320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> > <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> > <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> > <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> > <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> > <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> > > <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> > > > <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> > > <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> > > NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.84.182.138 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > X-Trace: posting.google.com 1131477805 27059 127.0.0.1 (8 Nov 2005 19:23:25 > GMT) > X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com > NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:23:25 +0000 (UTC) > User-Agent: G2/0.2 > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT > 5.0),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) > Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com > Injection-Info: g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=68.84.182.138; > posting-account=SGag9A0AAAA41KYpAds87_sn8H8akoAs > Xref: news-toy.newsread.com rec.antiques.radio+phono:452174 > > Let's WHOIS this crap > > OrgName: Comcast Cable Communications, Inc. > OrgID: CMCS > Address: 1800 Bishops Gate Blvd > City: Mt Laurel > StateProv: NJ > PostalCode: 08054 > Country: US > > NetRange: 68.80.0.0 - 68.87.255.255 > CIDR: 68.80.0.0/13 > NetName: JUMPSTART-2 > NetHandle: NET-68-80-0-0-1 > Parent: NET-68-0-0-0-0 > NetType: Direct Allocation > NameServer: DNS01.JDC01.PA.COMCAST.NET > NameServer: DNS02.JDC01.PA.COMCAST.NET > Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE > RegDate: 2002-01-28 > Updated: 2003-11-05 > > RTechHandle: IC161-ARIN > RTechName: Comcast Cable Communications Inc > RTechPhone: +1-856-317-7200 > RTechEmail: CNIPEO-Ip-registration@cable.comcast.com > > OrgAbuseHandle: NAPO-ARIN > OrgAbuseName: Network Abuse and Policy Observance > OrgAbusePhone: +1-856-317-7272 > OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@comcast.net > > OrgTechHandle: IC161-ARIN > OrgTechName: Comcast Cable Communications Inc > OrgTechPhone: +1-856-317-7200 > OrgTechEmail: CNIPEO-Ip-registration@cable.comcast.com > > CustName: Comcast Cable Communications, Inc. > Address: 3 Executive Campus > Address: 5th Floor > City: Cherry Hill > StateProv: NJ > PostalCode: 08002 > Country: US > RegDate: 2003-03-19 > Updated: 2004-07-02 > > NetRange: 68.84.160.0 - 68.84.191.255 > CIDR: 68.84.160.0/19 > NetName: MICHIGAN-B-11 > NetHandle: NET-68-84-160-0-1 > Parent: NET-68-80-0-0-1 > NetType: Reassigned > Comment: > RegDate: 2003-03-19 > Updated: 2004-07-02 > > RTechHandle: IC161-ARIN > RTechName: Comcast Cable Communications Inc > RTechPhone: +1-856-317-7200 > RTechEmail: CNIPEO-Ip-registration@cable.comcast.com > > OrgAbuseHandle: NAPO-ARIN > OrgAbuseName: Network Abuse and Policy Observance > OrgAbusePhone: +1-856-317-7272 > OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@comcast.net > > OrgTechHandle: IC161-ARIN > OrgTechName: Comcast Cable Communications Inc > OrgTechPhone: +1-856-317-7200 > OrgTechEmail: CNIPEO-Ip-registration@cable.comcast.com > > # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2005-11-07 19:10 > # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. > > Yeah...it looks like Grumpy from a glance...he thinks he can butt in and > obscure his troubles anwhere. TELL IT TO THE FRENCH RIOTERS. > > Article: 325542 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130959023.112407.211320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp Message-ID: <7q9cf.1512$ZA3.320792@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:13:23 GMT Well, time to go to AOL. "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message news:eN8cf.1504$ZA3.320079@monger.newsread.com... > PS If this is forged... > > Path: > monger.newsread.com!news-toy.newsread.com!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!new > sread.com!panix!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.c > om!g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail > From: grumpy@audiokarma.org > Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono > Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp > Date: 8 Nov 2005 11:23:20 -0800 > Organization: http://groups.google.com > Lines: 17 > Message-ID: <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> > References: > <1130959023.112407.211320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> > <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> > <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> > <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> > <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> > <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> > > <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> > > > <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> > > <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> > > NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.84.182.138 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > X-Trace: posting.google.com 1131477805 27059 127.0.0.1 (8 Nov 2005 19:23:25 > GMT) > X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com > NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 19:23:25 +0000 (UTC) > User-Agent: G2/0.2 > X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT > 5.0),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) > Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com > Injection-Info: g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=68.84.182.138; > posting-account=SGag9A0AAAA41KYpAds87_sn8H8akoAs > Xref: news-toy.newsread.com rec.antiques.radio+phono:452174 > > Let's WHOIS this crap > > OrgName: Comcast Cable Communications, Inc. > OrgID: CMCS > Address: 1800 Bishops Gate Blvd > City: Mt Laurel > StateProv: NJ > PostalCode: 08054 > Country: US > > NetRange: 68.80.0.0 - 68.87.255.255 > CIDR: 68.80.0.0/13 > NetName: JUMPSTART-2 > NetHandle: NET-68-80-0-0-1 > Parent: NET-68-0-0-0-0 > NetType: Direct Allocation > NameServer: DNS01.JDC01.PA.COMCAST.NET > NameServer: DNS02.JDC01.PA.COMCAST.NET > Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE > RegDate: 2002-01-28 > Updated: 2003-11-05 > > RTechHandle: IC161-ARIN > RTechName: Comcast Cable Communications Inc > RTechPhone: +1-856-317-7200 > RTechEmail: CNIPEO-Ip-registration@cable.comcast.com > > OrgAbuseHandle: NAPO-ARIN > OrgAbuseName: Network Abuse and Policy Observance > OrgAbusePhone: +1-856-317-7272 > OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@comcast.net > > OrgTechHandle: IC161-ARIN > OrgTechName: Comcast Cable Communications Inc > OrgTechPhone: +1-856-317-7200 > OrgTechEmail: CNIPEO-Ip-registration@cable.comcast.com > > CustName: Comcast Cable Communications, Inc. > Address: 3 Executive Campus > Address: 5th Floor > City: Cherry Hill > StateProv: NJ > PostalCode: 08002 > Country: US > RegDate: 2003-03-19 > Updated: 2004-07-02 > > NetRange: 68.84.160.0 - 68.84.191.255 > CIDR: 68.84.160.0/19 > NetName: MICHIGAN-B-11 > NetHandle: NET-68-84-160-0-1 > Parent: NET-68-80-0-0-1 > NetType: Reassigned > Comment: > RegDate: 2003-03-19 > Updated: 2004-07-02 > > RTechHandle: IC161-ARIN > RTechName: Comcast Cable Communications Inc > RTechPhone: +1-856-317-7200 > RTechEmail: CNIPEO-Ip-registration@cable.comcast.com > > OrgAbuseHandle: NAPO-ARIN > OrgAbuseName: Network Abuse and Policy Observance > OrgAbusePhone: +1-856-317-7272 > OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@comcast.net > > OrgTechHandle: IC161-ARIN > OrgTechName: Comcast Cable Communications Inc > OrgTechPhone: +1-856-317-7200 > OrgTechEmail: CNIPEO-Ip-registration@cable.comcast.com > > # ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2005-11-07 19:10 > # Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database. > > Yeah...it looks like Grumpy from a glance...he thinks he can butt in and > obscure his troubles anwhere. TELL IT TO THE FRENCH RIOTERS. > > Article: 325543 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 22:27:10 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> In Scott W. Harvey writes: >Somewhere, I have a Cunningham book from the 20s that shows the tube >layouts for all of the popular sets of the day. At the front of the >book there is a section intended for salesmen that gives tips on how >to use the in-store tube tester to sell more tubes. One of the tips >goes something like this: "Advise the customer with a weak tube that >her other tubes, even though they register "good" on the tester, are >probably going to weaken soon, and should all be replaced with fresh >tubes to ensure optimum performance." >"Once the sale of a replacement tube is made, the salesman should >break the old tube in view of the customer. This will give your >customer extra assurance that only new, factory-fresh tubes are being >sold at your establishment." Not to mention eliminating any chance of returning the tube when the set operates no better. :) I have several issues of Radio Retailing from the 30's with articles about drumming up business. The proposed tactics are unbelievable, including following the guy home so you can stop by the next day to pitch a new set to the wife while he's at work. And we think companies today are sleazy! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 325544 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131485612.592888.327650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488177.293909.22240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:29:07 GMT This group was founded by vote of private citizens in 1993 or 94, and if you had bothered to follow along instead of just barge in and whine, you would have seen that thread about 3 weeks ago. There are no "owners", and USENET is not commercial like the internet. There is NOBODY that can be held respponsible for this. wrote in message news:1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Gee. I hate to tell you guys this but google is the owner of this site > and they can be held liable. > > Theres always someone who can be held responsible. > > Night fellas.. > Article: 325545 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131485612.592888.327650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488177.293909.22240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:40:08 GMT I have the clown's number I'll bet if you want to razz him. It's _4_ 5__-_8_1. Eat me, Davey wrote in message news:1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Gee. I hate to tell you guys this but google is the owner of this site > and they can be held liable. > > Theres always someone who can be held responsible. > > Night fellas.. > Article: 325546 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 18:42:37 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp References: <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131485612.592888.327650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488177.293909.22240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <2534e$437129de$4232bdcb$17722@COQUI.NET> grumpy@audiokarma.org wrote: > Gee. I hate to tell you guys this but google is the owner of this site > and they can be held liable. How does one become an "owner" of Usenet venues? ??? -Bill Article: 325547 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp References: <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131485612.592888.327650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488177.293909.22240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2534e$437129de$4232bdcb$17722@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 16:46:11 -0600 Bill wrote: > grumpy@audiokarma.org wrote: > >> Gee. I hate to tell you guys this but google is the owner of this site >> and they can be held liable. > > > How does one become an "owner" of Usenet venues? only in the mind of the truly clueless... -- rg Article: 325548 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Gift exchange? Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 07:46:22 +0900 Message-ID: Getting to be that time of year... will there be an exchange this year? Our post office already has the timelines posted for shipping to get there before the holiday. Article: 325549 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1131489453.136939.277470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Portable record player amplifier question Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:46:43 GMT I found one like this last week at the auction house. Chances are it's solid state and much like a GE Wildcat. It had 4 speeds (16, 33, 45 and 78) and was a changer much like a BSR/MacDonald or remotely like a Garrard (a Garrard is light years away from these tables). Did you get a chance to play it or was the needle "worn out" (real or manager-wise)? wrote in message news:1131489453.136939.277470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I found an old Westinghouse record player at the local thrift store. > It's a turntable with speakers attached with hinges to either side - > about the size of a small piece of luggage. Does anyone know what kind > of amplifier circuits these type units have in them - assuming it's a > tube unit? The is a grill in the back, but without a flashlight I > couldn't see what was inside. I"ve never seen a schematic for a unit > like this. > Article: 325550 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131485612.592888.327650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488177.293909.22240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2534e$437129de$4232bdcb$17722@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:48:42 GMT "Bill" wrote in message news:2534e$437129de$4232bdcb$17722@COQUI.NET... > grumpy@audiokarma.org wrote: > > Gee. I hate to tell you guys this but google is the owner of this site > > and they can be held liable. > > How does one become an "owner" of Usenet venues? > > ??? > > -Bill Idiot savant doesn't know Usenet existed before the dawn of time...I have his number!!! Article: 325551 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: Subject: Re: Gift exchange? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:52:06 GMT Yes, I think that's grand. I believe I have a neat one for you, it's tubed and of course you have to work on it a little. "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:dkr9mh$73f$1@news2.kornet.net... > Getting to be that time of year... will there be an exchange this year? Our > post office already has the timelines posted for shipping to get there > before the holiday. > > > Article: 325552 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1131489453.136939.277470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Portable record player amplifier question Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:55:39 GMT I'm not familiar with this particular model, but I'd expect the amp to be a simple one. Seems to me that some phonos of the late 50's had only one tube in them. With this one I'd expect to see as many as four tubes, only because it's stereo. Possibly less, with a dual triode and two outputs. Rectifier probably is one of those smelly things. Caps are probably molded. Personally I wouldn't think it would be that much trouble to fix, even without a schematic. But then, have you even checked it out? Probably you could replace that selenium thing, maybe add a dropping resistor, and be done with it. If one side of the amp is bad, you have another one right next to it that you can use to compare voltages. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:1131489453.136939.277470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I found an old Westinghouse record player at the local thrift store. > It's a turntable with speakers attached with hinges to either side - > about the size of a small piece of luggage. Does anyone know what kind > of amplifier circuits these type units have in them - assuming it's a > tube unit? The is a grill in the back, but without a flashlight I > couldn't see what was inside. I"ve never seen a schematic for a unit > like this. > Article: 325553 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Back Here For Good Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 18:04:45 -0500 Message-ID: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> After being accused of being a racist on the "civilized" Forum I have deleted my offensive threads and am back here. So much for that.............. John H. Article: 325554 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Message-ID: <7jacf.19586$5i.12830@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:14:11 GMT "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com... > > After being accused of being a racist on the "civilized" Forum I have > deleted my offensive threads and am back here. So much for > that.............. > I like radios of all colors. jim menning Article: 325555 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131485612.592888.327650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488177.293909.22240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2534e$437129de$4232bdcb$17722@COQUI.NET> <1131490546.581421.15040@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:20:18 GMT Sent you an email. We all could complain to Google Groups AND Comcast too. Maybe we'd just care to have you break your nose it a door more familiar. NOT THIS ONE... RULES? UseRnet Hay, shorty, don'tcha already have my phone number in my registration? You yanked it, you call me? I got Caller ID. wrote in message news:1131490546.581421.15040@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > So when ya gonna come visit me steven and tell me all these things to > my face ? > > Ever read the usernet rules. I have.... > Article: 325556 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> <7jacf.19586$5i.12830@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:22:51 GMT "jim menning" wrote in message news:7jacf.19586$5i.12830@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Hagstar" wrote in message > news:11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com... > > > > After being accused of being a racist on the "civilized" Forum I have > > deleted my offensive threads and am back here. So much for > > that.............. > > > > > I like radios of all colors. > > jim menning I like them playing "racy" music. Article: 325557 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Message-ID: References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 18:24:51 -0500 On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 18:04:45 -0500, Hagstar wrote: >After being accused of being a racist on the "civilized" Forum I have >deleted my offensive threads and am back here. So much for >that.............. > >John H. You didn't talk about them mus-lems did ya? Kill filtered and never to return --------------------------------- mII and ole boney!, Peter Wieck, David David Stinson, Steven Dinius, Ken G Sylvain Vanier, Honus, John Barnard Article: 325558 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "M" References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Message-ID: <5Iacf.1524$ZA3.321994@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:40:49 GMT You must not talk to half the civilized world...no, laughing WITH you, definitely no AT you. "Beerbarrel" wrote in message news:atc2n1leiur9pdk2hf2rov23q3lpnf1p3i@4ax.com... > On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 18:04:45 -0500, Hagstar > wrote: > > >After being accused of being a racist on the "civilized" Forum I have > >deleted my offensive threads and am back here. So much for > >that.............. > > > >John H. > > > > You didn't talk about them mus-lems did ya? > > > > Kill filtered and never to return > --------------------------------- > mII and ole boney!, Peter Wieck, David > David Stinson, Steven Dinius, Ken G > Sylvain Vanier, Honus, John Barnard Article: 325559 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "M" References: <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7q9cf.1512$ZA3.320792@monger.newsread.com> <1131492789.770619.37310@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp Message-ID: <8Kacf.1525$ZA3.321913@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:43:00 GMT Yes, Mr. Brimer, you're next, but I must say we have no pastrami today...truck couldn't make it out of Knoxville. "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1131492789.770619.37310@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > 26? > Article: 325560 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Back Here For Good From: Ron Ramirez References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:48:56 GMT Welcome back John. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, I much prefer it here to that forum, even though I now host a forum of my own. I haven't said this before, but at the risk of ruffling a few feathers of my own, there are a lot of good people on that forum...and a few with a superiority complex which ruined it for me, and probably for you also. One man's opinion. Illegitimis non carborundum... -- Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ and the new Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php Hagstar wrote in news:11n2boe2s121l10 @corp.supernews.com: > After being accused of being a racist on the "civilized" Forum I have > deleted my offensive threads and am back here. So much for > that.............. > > John H. Article: 325561 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Portable record player amplifier question Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 15:48:06 -0800 Message-ID: <18126-43713936-938@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> References: 'El Cheapo' tube stereos of this sort often used a high output crystal cartridge driving a pair of 50EH5s (occasionally 50C5s) directly, with B+ supplied by one of those smelly things. Bill(oc) Article: 325562 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> <7jacf.19586$5i.12830@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 00:07:36 -0000 Message-ID: <43713dd6$0$82665$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> "jim menning" wrote in message news:7jacf.19586$5i.12830@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Hagstar" wrote in message > news:11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com... >> >> After being accused of being a racist on the "civilized" Forum I have >> deleted my offensive threads and am back here. So much for >> that.............. >> > > > I like radios of all colors. > > jim menning And of all nationalities. Martin. Article: 325563 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43713FDD.3C47C63E@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Back Here For Good References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> <7jacf.19586$5i.12830@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <43713dd6$0$82665$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 19:16:30 -0500 Even Italians?... ;-) Regards, Sal Brisindi Martin Crossley wrote: > > And of all nationalities. > Martin. Article: 325564 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "M" References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> <7jacf.19586$5i.12830@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <43713dd6$0$82665$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> <43713FDD.3C47C63E@optonline.net> Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 00:16:20 GMT Hey, those are pretty cool, y'know? "Sal Brisindi" wrote in message news:43713FDD.3C47C63E@optonline.net... > Even Italians?... ;-) > > Regards, > Sal Brisindi > > Martin Crossley wrote: > > > > > And of all nationalities. > > Martin. > Article: 325565 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: <1131338472.027874.6130@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131404103.306176.229810@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5V8cf.52486$Pe2.982577@twister2.libero.it> Subject: Re: Help: Frying power transformer Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 00:15:15 -0000 Message-ID: <43713fa0$0$82628$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> "Daniele" wrote in message news:5V8cf.52486$Pe2.982577@twister2.libero.it... > > Jim Mueller wrote: > >> A short between windings (any of them) or a short from a winding to >> the core can be found with an ohmmeter. Shorted turns cannot. >> Occasionally you may run into a transformer that has windings >> internally connected or has a winding with more than one tap. These >> can be confusing; a schematic is a big help at this point. > > Now i suppose the trouble is in the HV winding. > It's 317 ohm in one side and 212 in the other, > a side seems to be shorted.. > > -- > > Daniele ^___^ > http://www.tuberadio.it > > > Perhaps, perhaps not... since the one half is wound over the other, it has higher resistance for the same No. of turns, so it is given some extra turns to compensate for the IR loss (extra voltage sag) at full load to match the other, increasing the resistance yet more.. Martin. Article: 325566 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Message-ID: References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> <5Iacf.1524$ZA3.321994@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 19:24:09 -0500 hehe....I understand... You just gotta be PC anymore or somebody gets their little feelings hurt... On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 23:40:49 GMT, "M" wrote: >You must not talk to half the civilized world...no, laughing WITH you, >definitely no AT you. > >"Beerbarrel" wrote in message >news:atc2n1leiur9pdk2hf2rov23q3lpnf1p3i@4ax.com... >> On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 18:04:45 -0500, Hagstar >> wrote: >> >> >After being accused of being a racist on the "civilized" Forum I have >> >deleted my offensive threads and am back here. So much for >> >that.............. >> > >> >John H. >> >> >> >> You didn't talk about them mus-lems did ya? >> >> >> >> Kill filtered and never to return >> --------------------------------- >> mII and ole boney!, Peter Wieck, David >> David Stinson, Steven Dinius, Ken G >> Sylvain Vanier, Honus, John Barnard > Kill filtered and never to return --------------------------------- mII and ole boney!, Peter Wieck, David David Stinson, Steven Dinius, Ken G Sylvain Vanier, Honus, John Barnard Article: 325567 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131485612.592888.327650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488177.293909.22240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 00:30:56 -0000 Message-ID: <43714346$0$27975$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> wrote in message news:1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Gee. I hate to tell you guys this but google is the owner of this site > and they can be held liable. > > Theres always someone who can be held responsible. > > Night fellas.. > WRONG! Article: 325568 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:05:04 -0500 Message-ID: <11n2iq174pvc329@corp.supernews.com> References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> <1131497606.922043.311320@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Paul Dietenberger wrote: > > > Auctions is pretty well moderated; I know the mod on that board is > pretty active there and here. I would have maybe tapped his e-mail > shoulder and told him to boot the jack@** if you didn't deserve what > was said...... Oh, I had zero defense really. Sure, if you read my "Phony Bidders" post in a strict way it sounded a bit stereotyped. But I DID get a flood of mail during my auction last week from obviously fake bidders with the most horrendous imaginable grammar that clearly indicated to me they were coming from a boiler room WAY outside the US. I quoted one letter exactly and some Doug something or other tells me how offended he is, like I should have cleaned up the grammar to make these obvious THIEVES sound better. Some of the Question About Your Item letters talked about needing the car for a crippled aunt or trips to the hospital I'd be thwarting. Yeah, like there's no other used broken cars from here to NYC. People talk about the Forum as SO much more civilized than here, but I couldn't see anyone removing this a-hole Doug's post because HE followed the letter of the law. No politics or religion, but being a pompous ass is still fine. John H. Article: 325569 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "M" References: <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131485612.592888.327650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488177.293909.22240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43714346$0$27975$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 01:10:56 GMT He's toast at the webmail level (before IE) and it deleted them instantaneously. A fine way to remove a wart. "Martin Crossley" wrote in message news:43714346$0$27975$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net... > > wrote in message > news:1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Gee. I hate to tell you guys this but google is the owner of this site > > and they can be held liable. > > > > Theres always someone who can be held responsible. > > > > Night fellas.. > > > WRONG! > > Article: 325570 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "M" References: <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131485612.592888.327650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488177.293909.22240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43714346$0$27975$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 01:12:04 GMT I don't want to break it to Tracy, but I'm me. "M" wrote in message news:A0ccf.1541$ZA3.322971@monger.newsread.com... > He's toast at the webmail level (before IE) and it deleted them > instantaneously. > > A fine way to remove a wart. > > "Martin Crossley" wrote in message > news:43714346$0$27975$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net... > > > > wrote in message > > news:1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > Gee. I hate to tell you guys this but google is the owner of this site > > > and they can be held liable. > > > > > > Theres always someone who can be held responsible. > > > > > > Night fellas.. > > > > > WRONG! > > > > > > Article: 325571 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 18:10:03 -0700 Message-ID: <6487-43714C6B-1064@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <43713FDD.3C47C63E@optonline.net> I never thought you left , is that right that you left or am i right that i thought you left stuff in both places ? hope i got that right that you left the right stuff in both groups where you left off .. right ? Article: 325572 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: AK breadboard knobs Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 01:25:28 GMT I've stumbled into what I think is an AK 10A, maybe type 1, part num.4560. Was wondering if anyone could lead me to knobs for the ones missing. One varible condenser and vernier adjustment, and one reheostat knob and pointer. I appreciate any tips sent my way. -Steven Article: 325573 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 21:33:01 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp References: <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131485612.592888.327650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488177.293909.22240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43714346$0$27975$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> Message-ID: <766ab$437151cf$4232bdcb$4752@COQUI.NET> Dammit Dinius, you're clogging up my killfile again. For those that would like to take action, the outfit responsible for allowing this idiot to harrass people all over the internet can be addressed at: This is the outfit behind his ISP http://www.hitindustries.com/ The ISP site is at http://www.srvinet.com/contact.cfm This is a small-time ISP who apparently really treasures having Dinius as a customer. They have no TOS Agreement and are reluctant to boot him. Here is the (useless) reply I got from Mary about the time Dinius was making threatening phone calls to a church in Florida. At 03:31 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote: We are not sure what to do here. I can say that if we shut off his service, he will just find another ISP and YOUR problems will continue. I can get rid of the problem but that doesn't help you out any. Maybe you should all start filing complaints with the Federal Government or at least your local law enforcement. AND I would blast that info all over every news group you can. Maybe if he thinks he is going to jail, he will stop. We are open to your suggestions. Article: 325574 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> <7jacf.19586$5i.12830@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <43713dd6$0$82665$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> <43713FDD.3C47C63E@optonline.net> Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 01:33:03 -0000 Message-ID: <43715220$0$63067$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net> "Sal Brisindi" wrote in message news:43713FDD.3C47C63E@optonline.net... > Even Italians?... ;-) > > Regards, > Sal Brisindi > > Martin Crossley wrote: > >> >> And of all nationalities. >> Martin. > Yes, particularly an Italian, or a Chinese ;) ! English,Irish,USA,Canadian,Australian,New Zealand,Romanian,E&W German,Czechoslovakian, Polish,Hungarian,Yugoslavian,Russian,French,Belgian,Dutch,Japanese,Spanish and an Italian which was dead beyond redemption so far. Any other refugees would be most welcome! Cheers, Martin. Article: 325575 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:41:24 +0900 Message-ID: References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> <5Iacf.1524$ZA3.321994@monger.newsread.com> "Beerbarrel" wrote in message news:ubg2n1t4463p90ddql9p805npa3ikklgfv@4ax.com... > > > hehe....I understand... You just gotta be PC anymore or somebody gets > their little feelings hurt... Uh-oh.. must be nearing the Second Coming.. I have to agree with Tracy. Most of what people call 'PC', we used to call common courtesy... but it's gone way beyond ridiculous anymore.. people take themselves too damn seriously. Folks need to get a little thicker skin (and a less thick skull). Let's take for instance the instant BS in France. I can understand not wanting to offend their Muslim immigrants.. but to go to the point where they're letting them burn the damn country down rather than risk offending someone is, to say the very least, ignorant, assinine, and totally deserving of the Darwin of the Milennium Award.. Article: 325576 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Message-ID: <76l2n1p4r77o6v9tdculufl0cpf9c3ekvb@4ax.com> References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> <5Iacf.1524$ZA3.321994@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:46:03 -0500 On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:41:24 +0900, "Brenda Ann" wrote: > >"Beerbarrel" wrote in message >news:ubg2n1t4463p90ddql9p805npa3ikklgfv@4ax.com... >> >> >> hehe....I understand... You just gotta be PC anymore or somebody gets >> their little feelings hurt... > >Uh-oh.. must be nearing the Second Coming.. I have to agree with Tracy. > >Most of what people call 'PC', we used to call common courtesy... but it's >gone way beyond ridiculous anymore.. people take themselves too damn >seriously. Folks need to get a little thicker skin (and a less thick >skull). > >Let's take for instance the instant BS in France. I can understand not >wanting to offend their Muslim immigrants.. but to go to the point where >they're letting them burn the damn country down rather than risk offending >someone is, to say the very least, ignorant, assinine, and totally deserving >of the Darwin of the Milennium Award.. > > Hey....I'm learning in my old age! Kill filtered and never to return --------------------------------- mII and ole boney!, Peter Wieck, David David Stinson, Steven Dinius, Ken G Sylvain Vanier, Honus, John Barnard Article: 325577 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Gift exchange? Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:46:38 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:o_ednf1BA7BEzOzenZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@giganews.com... > Oh, yeah. There's half a carload of stuff that I couldn't unload at the > Portland swap. Then I bought some new things with my swap-meet earnings, > so -- time to make more room! Send me a list of what you have to get rid of, and maybe we'll do some dickering.. Article: 325578 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: <18127-43701156-162@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 01:57:50 -0000 Message-ID: <437157b7$0$63054$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net> "Bill Sheppard" wrote in message news:18127-43701156-162@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net... From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) retroteckh@aol.com wrote: >I would look at thrift stores like the >Goodwill for an old colour TV (tube type) >and salvage the power transformer out of >it. > >Sadly, most of those were hot chassis. Negatory, good buddy. By and large, transformer operated color chasses were isolated from the AC line. In fact the 'hot chassis' practice was abandoned long before the advent of color TV sets. Bill(oc) That's interesting. Completely different from British practice. Big isolating transformers were rare after 1950, except in 1960s Decca "schools" sets,AFAIK Series 300mA heater strings & live chassis in monochrome sets were normal then "half-live" from a bridge rectifier in solid-state colour sets until about 1980 with the introduction of fully isolated switch-mode PSUs. (e.g. Ferguson TX10 chassis) Martin. Article: 325579 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <1131338472.027874.6130@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131404103.306176.229810@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5V8cf.52486$Pe2.982577@twister2.libero.it> <43713fa0$0$82628$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> Subject: Re: Help: Frying power transformer Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2005 20:05:38 -0800 "Martin Crossley" wrote in message news:43713fa0$0$82628$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net... > > "Daniele" wrote in message > news:5V8cf.52486$Pe2.982577@twister2.libero.it... > > > > Jim Mueller wrote: > > > >> A short between windings (any of them) or a short from a winding to > >> the core can be found with an ohmmeter. Shorted turns cannot. > >> Occasionally you may run into a transformer that has windings > >> internally connected or has a winding with more than one tap. These > >> can be confusing; a schematic is a big help at this point. > > > > Now i suppose the trouble is in the HV winding. > > It's 317 ohm in one side and 212 in the other, > > a side seems to be shorted.. > > > > -- > > > > Daniele ^___^ > > http://www.tuberadio.it > > > > > > > Perhaps, perhaps not... > since the one half is wound over the other, it has higher resistance for the > same No. of turns, so it is given some extra turns to compensate for the IR > loss (extra voltage sag) at full load to match the other, increasing the > resistance yet more.. > Martin. > Thanks for that, Martin... That sounds like a reasonable explanation for something I for one have wondered about but never enough to ask. Cheers, Nelson Article: 325580 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: Back Here For Good References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 02:08:24 GMT Hagstar wrote: > After being accused of being a racist on the "civilized" Forum I have > deleted my offensive threads and am back here. So much for > that.............. Welcome back, John. One of the nice things about Usenet is there is no central ego with supporting sub-egos to impose "group think." Sure- we "get all kinds," but that means we're bound to have "your kind," and that's good. At least here- while there's sure to be a small group that cusses you, there's always a bigger group that welcomes you. 73 D.S. Article: 325581 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "M" References: <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131485612.592888.327650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488177.293909.22240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43714346$0$27975$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <766ab$437151cf$4232bdcb$4752@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 02:10:28 GMT Oh, shut up, Bill. I've already dealt with him as far as I know and he's killfiled at the ISP webfile level as well as in OE. If you haven't heard >from him, and I haven't seen his name in any other group members replies in a while, you now have little to fret about. I've already sent some of his garbage to AOL the host of AK last time I checked, and Comcast, his ISP. Sic semper tyranis. Article: 325582 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: Back Here For Good References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <1Vccf.1497$Xo.160@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 02:11:09 GMT Beerbarrel wrote > > Kill filtered and never to return > --------------------------------- > mII and ole boney!, Peter Wieck, David > David Stinson,.... Oh, Horrors! I've been killfiled by a worthless drunken scumbag. Heavens! Oh, the shame! Shall I ever recover?? Be still my poor and mourning heart.... Article: 325583 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "M" References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> <1131502595.921447.274440@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 02:26:20 GMT It's gone, and if it comes back they will not like the ending. End of story. wrote in message news:1131502595.921447.274440@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Seems like there was this big tif going on somewhere else, and somebody > decided to bring it here. HEY GUYS, TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE! > DFave > Article: 325584 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "M" References: <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7q9cf.1512$ZA3.320792@monger.newsread.com> <1131492789.770619.37310@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8Kacf.1525$ZA3.321913@monger.newsread.com> <1131502593.206830.35510@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp Message-ID: <18dcf.1553$ZA3.324103@monger.newsread.com> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 02:27:09 GMT You are in the DMV line then? Not the deli... "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1131502593.206830.35510@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > huh? > Article: 325585 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:30:38 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp References: <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131485612.592888.327650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488177.293909.22240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43714346$0$27975$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <766ab$437151cf$4232bdcb$4752@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <6766$43715f50$4232bdcb$7852@COQUI.NET> M wrote: > Oh, shut up, Bill. I've already dealt with him as far as I know and he's > killfiled at the ISP webfile level as well as in OE. If you haven't heard > from him, and I haven't seen his name in any other group members replies in > a while, you now have little to fret about. I've already sent some of his > garbage to AOL the host of AK last time I checked, and Comcast, his ISP. Sic > semper tyranis. > > Steven, your mental problems may be a bit deeper than you realize with all this multiple identity crap. You need more help than you are getting. Article: 325586 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Back Here For Good References: <43713FDD.3C47C63E@optonline.net> <6487-43714C6B-1064@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:31:19 -0600 Ken G. wrote: > I never thought you left , is that right that you left or am i right > that i thought you left stuff in both places ? hope i got that right > that you left the right stuff in both groups where you left off .. right If you're going to take that many turns - get an arm out the window, will ya? Sheesh! -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 325587 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Refinishing Brass From: lherault@bu.edu References: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 02:36:42 GMT Message-ID: <43716003$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net> And don't forget that there are different alloys of brass. Two major types are High brass and Low brass. I don't remember details though. Ron L Article: 325588 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "M" References: <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131485612.592888.327650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488177.293909.22240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43714346$0$27975$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <766ab$437151cf$4232bdcb$4752@COQUI.NET> <6766$43715f50$4232bdcb$7852@COQUI.NE Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 02:45:10 GMT Who's got a multiple anything...you just get upset when the killfile fails. Point was I got him GONE, for now. Maybe your prejudices when you may have had some runs with addiction yourself are not kosher. PS Grumpy sorta sounds like Jeff in places...my, that's kinda insulting to Jeff. Sorry. "Bill" wrote in message news:6766$43715f50$4232bdcb$7852@COQUI.NET... > M wrote: > > > Oh, shut up, Bill. I've already dealt with him as far as I know and he's > > killfiled at the ISP webfile level as well as in OE. If you haven't heard > > from him, and I haven't seen his name in any other group members replies in > > a while, you now have little to fret about. I've already sent some of his > > garbage to AOL the host of AK last time I checked, and Comcast, his ISP. Sic > > semper tyranis. > > > > > > Steven, your mental problems may be a bit deeper than you realize with > all this multiple identity crap. You need more help than you are getting. > Article: 325589 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Help: Frying power transformer From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1131338472.027874.6130@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131404103.306176.229810@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5V8cf.52486$Pe2.982577@twister2.libero.it> <43713fa0$0$82628$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 02:58:41 GMT In article , ngietz@mts.net says... > > > just plug in the transformer to the line with nothing hooked to any of the secondaries.... if it gets hot its junk. John k9uwa Article: 325590 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "M" References: <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131332097.247569.124950@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131454854.806450.215310@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131477800.349444.265350@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131485612.592888.327650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488177.293909.22240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131488386.132341.33970@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43714346$0$27975$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> <766ab$437151cf$4232bdcb$4752@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Wyatt Earp Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 03:00:03 GMT "Bill" wrote in message news:766ab$437151cf$4232bdcb$4752@COQUI.NET... > Dammit Dinius, you're clogging up my killfile again. > > For those that would like to take action, the outfit responsible for > allowing this idiot to harrass people all over the internet can be > addressed at: > > This is the outfit behind his ISP > http://www.hitindustries.com/ The ISP site is at > http://www.srvinet.com/contact.cfm You can bug the same outfit three times and that's probably your problem. They're not the provider even. > > This is a small-time ISP who apparently really treasures having Dinius > as a customer. They have no TOS Agreement and are reluctant to boot him.\ No, they're just sick of listening to you. > > Here is the (useless) FICTICIOUS reply I got from Mary about the time Dinius was > making threatening phone calls to a church in Florida. God dammit, Bill you musta flunked Writing 100 as you can't even create a plausible fake message. Don't work for the Republican Party. > At 03:31 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote: > We are not sure what to do here. I can say that if we shut off his > service, he will just find another ISP and YOUR problems will continue. > I can get rid of the problem but that doesn't help you out any. Maybe > you should all start filing complaints with the Federal Government or at > least your local law enforcement. AND I would blast that info all over > every news group you can. Maybe if he thinks he is going to jail, he > will stop. We are open to your suggestions. Class dismissed. Article: 325591 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: odd variable capacitor ? References: From: haynes@alumni.uark.edu (Jim Haynes) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 03:13:52 GMT There was an article in Antique Radio Classified some years ago that made me aware of capacitors with tapered plates. You can look up that patent online www.uspto.gov, click on search under patents, click on patent number search, put in the number, and when it tells you click on images. You have to have a tiff viewer plugin in your web browser to read them. That particular patent seems to apply to a capacitor with flat plates, so perhaps there was a pending patent on the tapered plates. A variable capacitor with semicircular plates and the axis of rotation going through the middle and flat plates gives of course a linear relationship between capacitance and angular rotation. By altering the plate shape a bit and moving the axis of rotation off-center you can get a capacitor that tunes straight-line wavelength. Wavelength is proportional to the square root of capacitance. In the early days of radio wavelength was often specified instead of frequency. You can make a variable capacitor that is straight-line frequency, which rotation has to be proportional to the reciprocal of the square root of capacitance. With flat plates this requires a fairly radical plate shape, with the axis of rotation very far off center. As a result there has to be a lot of empty space for those long narrow plates to swing around. I'll post a picture of one of these to that binaries group. So a way to get around the odd plate shape and the space it occupies is to use plates of tapered thickness. It would be nice if you got straight-line something, but even if you don't you have something where the stations are more spread out than they are with straight line capacitance. I have an old TRF receiver of the vintage of multiple knobs and 01A tubes that uses capacitors like this. -- jhhaynes at earthlink dot net Article: 325592 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FA: Philco/Capehart 211 From: Ron Ramirez References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 03:21:13 GMT Hi Bruce Yes, the legs are correct as shown. I'm still kicking myself for not picking up one of these beasts at Radiofest 2004...Bossman only wanted fifty bucks for it...stupid, stupid me. By the way, Bruce, I'm glad to hear our whirlwind missed you as well, although knowing the area of town you live in, I assumed you were safe. -- Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ and the new Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php "Bruce Mercer" wrote in news:ot-dnehFCc8m-ezeRVn- hw@sigecom.net: This is not mine and it does not have the famous Capehart 16-E changer but an early (1934) Capehart drop changer but is a very interesting set nonetheless. I'm wondering if Ron could tell us if the case originally had a stretcher base. Something about the legs doesn't look quite right or maybe it's the camera angle. Article: 325593 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: tapped volume controls From: Larry References: <436ff52c$1@news.meer.net> <4370f218@news.meer.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:40:49 -0500 "Fred C" wrote in news:4370f218@news.meer.net: > Thanks for the input guys. Now tell me does this mean that all radios > not using a tapped volume control suffer from tone distortion? Isn't > that what we are talking about? Isn't distortion a departure from the > aggregate of all originating tones and levels nothing more or nothing > less? > All tube radios with transformers matching impedance have awful distortion. That's what produces that "warm sound" of a partially-saturated transformer with DC flowing through its plate winding. They were awful, but we love 'em. The tapped volume control was one of the ways to change the contour of the audio bandpass, relative to the level of the audio. Many could have cared less. (Pick any table radio...) And, after all, this is AMPLITUDE MODULATION on 10 Khz channel spacing! It's not Hi-Fi by any stretch of your imagination. Anyone feeding the beast over 6Khz audio frequencies is soon answering an NAL from FCC, who'd take a dim view of your little AMer being 30 Khz wide...(c; -- Larry Article: 325594 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: tapped volume controls From: Larry References: <436ff52c$1@news.meer.net> <4370f218@news.meer.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:54:58 -0500 et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) wrote in news:dkqt74$lgn$1@theodyn.ncf.ca: > ear > There's an interesting subject...... Have any of you ever had YOU spectrum analyzed by an audiologist? We had audiologists at the Charleston Naval Shipyard that gave all of us hearing tests every year because we worked in the noisy shipyard. I got talking to them when my turn came one day and I was there towards the end of the day when noone else was waiting. I asked him if he could give me a hearing test that would output a graph of my hearing bandpass more extensive than the 8 specific frequencies in the normal hearing test. He lead me around to another lab and how that one worked was YOU had control of the level of the tones that slowly swept across from 20-20Khz in the precision headphones. The idea was that you adjusted the volume across the band to the threshold of what you could hear as the tone swept up in frequency. I actually had what he called a fairly good response, even though I was in shock at how awful it looked to me after worrying over the damned stereo passband all these years. At some places in the band, I had a hump over 12 db where I was more sensitive than the average of the graph. In other places there were 15-20 db DIPS, one big one around 2.4Khz, in response I was never aware of over narrow bandwidths. I ran through the tester 3 times and it was always nearly the same. The overall passband was >from about 45 Hz to 9.5 Khz with quite a slope up as frequency increased. AT 9.5 Khz, my hearing dropped like a STONE...and stayed that way, finally terminating around 13 Khz. I was 38 at the time of this test. I'm 59 now and much worse. Question - Can you hear your TV flyback singing at 15,750 Hz? It used to drive me crazy to watch TV because I could hear the damned horizontal screaming. So, if you can't too well, what the hell do we care if the damned stereo reproduces 20 Khz for??!! Is that for the dog?...(c; -- Larry RIAA Equalization is overkill....(c; Article: 325595 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "M" References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> <1131502595.921447.274440@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11n2qjjhgpphm27@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 04:05:27 GMT "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11n2qjjhgpphm27@corp.supernews.com... > > > pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > > > Seems like there was this big tif going on somewhere else > > No Dave, it's all gone. In no way does ANYTHING WHICH HAS EVER OR WILL > EVER OCCUR ON THE FORUM RESEMBLE A "TIFF". Even spirited discussion is > prohibited. BUT poisonous libel is permitted if it is in defense of a PC > cause. > > John H. Somebody lie to get a computer? Article: 325596 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "M" References: <436ff52c$1@news.meer.net> <4370f218@news.meer.net> Subject: Re: tapped volume controls Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 04:08:13 GMT My station plays a lot of 1950s stuff, the kind that begs for a plate reverb. guess I'm screwed Article: 325597 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: rjbq Subject: Advice Needed For Removing Labels Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 20:15:22 -0800 Message-ID: <11n2tjbe959t06e@corp.supernews.com> I acquired an RCA 8-X-541 with a Bakelite cabinet. I'm in the process of cleaning the cabinet. It has a paper label (model and tube diagram) affixed to the bottom that I would like to remove but save for reinstallation after the cleaning. What recommendations does this group have for safely removing the label? What is the best adhesive to use for reapplying the label? As an aside, I found from another forum that Mother's Mag and Aluminum Polish does a fantastic job of removing the oxidation and restoring the original shine and color to the Bakelite. It even removed some paint splatters. Thanks, Richard Article: 325598 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Crosley radio vs. Crosley mansion Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 04:11:36 GMT As I've mentioned in the past, I've been trying to put a radio display in the Crosley mansion for the holiday season. The Powel Crosley winter home, "Seagate", has been somewhat restored. However instead of being furnished and open to tourists, the home is owned by Manatee County; it is available for wedding receptions in case you want to pay an astronomical figure to get married in an empty house. Thus it's closed up most of the year. In spite of this, one week each year the home actually has a shining moment -- it is open to the public for its "Festival of Trees." Area businesses sponsor Christmas trees, and the home is decorated with trees in each room. In addition there is a Lionel train display upstairs, and Crosley cars from area cruisers are displayed out back. Upstairs there is also a display of Crosley radios -- at least I think they're Crosleys, as their condition is so far gone that many are unrecognizable! I would be embarrassed to put such trash on display for the public to pay to see. So I had a bright idea: why not offer to bring some Crosley radios, put one in each room, and with the help of an AMT-3000 and a CD player, broadcast some Christmas music and old time radio? I personally thought this would be a neat idea -- maybe I'm crazy and need to be admitted in an institution, because it seems nobody else agrees with me, but I happen to think this would be a neat idea. After talking about it via personal contact, phone calls, and e-mails for a period of three years, last summer I finally got a glimmer of light. Some director I had yet to talk to, thought it was a great idea -- but explained that there's a security problem there, and that he wants the radios only to be displayed in the same room as the trains because this is the one room that can be secured. Hmm . . . must be bad luck to ger married in THAT room! So I offered to put a few small radios in the room with the trains. I know what you're thinking; I tried putting a radio next to the trains and there is no static. But of course we now have the problem of space. There must be room for a certain number of people to be in the room at a given time. I have tried endlessly to determine where the trains will be, and where even one radio could be placed in the room, but cannot get a response. Every time I ask, I'm told to "ask someone else." As it is now, I'm frustrated to the point of giving up -- after all, I'm the one who was willing to provide all of this to them for free. It is indeed getting to be a joke -- just how hard is it to plop a radio in a house, particularly when that radio is the reason for the house being there in the first place? So . . . Realizing that I'm dealing with government, I've taken the initiative to provide answers to upcoming questions before they are asked. Here's some further information: Figuring that placing a radio on government property would require an environmental study, I've researched this and have determined this radio should not present a hazard. The calculated increase in attendance would require US 41 to be widened to multiple lanes, with a center turn lane. A sign should be placed at the entrance so motorists will know when and where to turn. US 41 indeed has the proper number of lanes and a sign has already been provided. As the radio requires electrical power, wiring in the mansion must be properly inspected, and be upgraded to standards which allow a current draw of 35 watts RMS. I have not physically inspected this, but a failure to meet code would require the place to be shut down, and all wedding receptions would have to be cancelled and money refunded -- so inspection has passed. There is concern that the possibility of ozone emission from a corroded tube socket might create an air quality issue that could increase the bloom of red tide. However it has been determined that sea breezes generally move eastward, and the natural odor of the red tide would obscure any effects the ozone emission might have on humans or animals. As the display may continue during evening hours, the radio's dial lamp has been removed so as not to disrupt the hatching of nearby sea turtles. (But what about the Christmas lights?) Being on government property, a concern has been raised that this radio may have at one time been tuned to a religious station, creating a conflict of separation of church and state. However this particular radio has a shortwave band, which allows it to receive international signals which provide religious and cultural diversity. With its wood cabinet, it is obvious that trees have been destroyed for the purpose of building this line of radios, contributing to the greenhouse effect and global warming. But bear in mind that this radio was built in 1941, long before any such measurements or calculations have been made. Yes, the house has been constructed soundly in such a way as to provide adequate support for this 8 pound radio. It has a built-in antenna, and the superhetrodyne oscillator has met all FCC requirements as of the date of manufacture, and probably today's standards as well. So NOW what do they need to know? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 325599 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "M" References: <1131475213.276973.303880@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Refinishing Brass Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 04:23:38 GMT I must have a bad tube in this thing... "Haggis telus.net>" wrote in message news:qNecf.98767$y_1.42971@edtnps89... > > On 8-Nov-2005, Stewart Schooley wrote: > > >snipped for brevity> > > Manana, [sp? si?] > > Mr. Stewart. > > You might try holding the "Alt" key down, typing in "164" (without the > quotes), letting go the "Alt" key and with luck, you'll come up with the > Spanish " ñ " - that's the "n" with the little squiggly thing on top :-)) > All in good humor, of course, to a guy who's come up with some of the most > heplful information to yours truly on the group. > > Thanks Stewart!!! > > Haggis. Article: 325600 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Secret Santa '05 References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 05:03:18 GMT Brenda Ann wrote: > Getting to be that time of year... will there be an exchange > this year? Our post office already has the timelines posted > for shipping to get there before the holiday. Yes indeed, it's that time again. Start now. Clear out that odd pile of stuff under your bench that you can't force yourself to drag out to the curb and send it to someone for Christmas instead. ;-) Brenda, could you send me email? I still have your gift from last year sitting on the shelf here. To everyone else. Here's the rules: Send me email with "Secret Santa '05" in the subject line. Include a valid email address to contact you with, and a valid shipping address. I'll stir up the hat and assign the givers and takers the day after thanksgiving. Remember, don't forget to post here what you got. Try to keep your responses under this subject thread. Thanks Jeff aka "Santa's little helper" -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325601 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "M" References: <1131489453.136939.277470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Portable record player amplifier question Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 06:48:21 GMT I believe the SS version possibly says solid state in the upper right corner. That would kill it, I'm almost certain. "Phil B" wrote in message news:n4qdncn22JunCuzeRVn-tQ@comcast.com... > Could be tube or SS. Find a screwdriver take a look. > > Phil B. > > wrote in message > news:1131489453.136939.277470@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >I found an old Westinghouse record player at the local thrift store. > > It's a turntable with speakers attached with hinges to either side - > > about the size of a small piece of luggage. Does anyone know what kind > > of amplifier circuits these type units have in them - assuming it's a > > tube unit? The is a grill in the back, but without a flashlight I > > couldn't see what was inside. I"ve never seen a schematic for a unit > > like this. > > > > Article: 325602 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Usenet, He Wrote" References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> <1131502595.921447.274440@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Message-ID: <53hcf.1586$ZA3.326535@monger.newsread.com> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 06:54:57 GMT "Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message news:Zq6dnaEHldv46-zenZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@gbronline.com... > pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > > Seems like there was this big tif going on somewhere else, and somebody > > decided to bring it here. HEY GUYS, TAKE IT SOMEWHERE ELSE! > > DFave > > > > People get their feelings hurt far to easily. If you say so. Article: 325603 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Message-ID: References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> <5Iacf.1524$ZA3.321994@monger.newsread.com> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 05:26:05 -0500 On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 21:52:44 -0500, Stewart Schooley wrote: >> Kill filtered and never to return >>>> --------------------------------- >>>> mII and ole boney!, Peter Wieck, David >>>> David Stinson, Steven Dinius, Ken G >>>> Sylvain Vanier, Honus, John Barnard > >Hey!!! > >Some of my favorite people are in that group. > >Stewart I feel for ya Stewart! Kill filtered and never to return --------------------------------- mII and ole boney!, Peter Wieck, David David Stinson, Steven Dinius, Ken G Sylvain Vanier, Honus, John Barnard, M Article: 325604 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Crosley radio vs. Crosley mansion Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:12:36 GMT I'm very close to that point. Basically I'll wait a couple more days, and if I don't hear anything I'll e-mail the director to tell him I'm dropping the idea entirely because nobody can decide on whether/how to display a table radio that's smaller than a breadbox. If he steps in and takes control, fine. Otherwise I won't bother. I can't overlook the fact that we have a swap meet coming up, during that time. The trees and trains thing runs from November 28 through December 8, and the swap meet is December 3. Keep in mind that the swap meet is also a show; radios brought for display will be voted on by the public, with the best of show receiving a trophy. The AMT-3000 will be turned on, and any radio in the room that's tuned to 1500 AM will hear old time radio. I think it may be best to concentrate on this event, and invite the director to come and see what should've could've would've been at the mansion. Once this meet, and the holiday season are over with, I'd like to try and get some exposure.to the public. Radios could be placed on static display at the public library, for example. Interesting table sets could be set up in display racks behind glass; security would be excellent and a large number of people would see them. Some area car shows are held at historic places, or at least at locations which have indoor space, and radios could be displayed there as part of the event. Then, people such as this director would see exactly what we're talking about. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "M" wrote in message news:pMecf.1568$ZA3.325242@monger.newsread.com... > Just yank the event support and watch them suck up > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:YFecf.1866$Id6.1759@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> As I've mentioned in the past, I've been trying to put a radio display in >> the Crosley mansion for the holiday season. >> >> The Powel Crosley winter home, "Seagate", has been somewhat restored. >> However instead of being furnished and open to tourists, the home is >> owned >> by Manatee County; it is available for wedding receptions in case you >> want >> to pay an astronomical figure to get married in an empty house. Thus >> it's >> closed up most of the year. >> >> In spite of this, one week each year the home actually has a shining >> moment -- it is open to the public for its "Festival of Trees." Area >> businesses sponsor Christmas trees, and the home is decorated with trees > in >> each room. In addition there is a Lionel train display upstairs, and >> Crosley cars from area cruisers are displayed out back. Upstairs there >> is >> also a display of Crosley radios -- at least I think they're Crosleys, as >> their condition is so far gone that many are unrecognizable! I would be >> embarrassed to put such trash on display for the public to pay to see. >> >> So I had a bright idea: why not offer to bring some Crosley radios, put > one >> in each room, and with the help of an AMT-3000 and a CD player, broadcast >> some Christmas music and old time radio? I personally thought this would > be >> a neat idea -- maybe I'm crazy and need to be admitted in an institution, >> because it seems nobody else agrees with me, but I happen to think this >> would be a neat idea. >> >> After talking about it via personal contact, phone calls, and e-mails for > a >> period of three years, last summer I finally got a glimmer of light. >> Some >> director I had yet to talk to, thought it was a great idea -- but > explained >> that there's a security problem there, and that he wants the radios only > to >> be displayed in the same room as the trains because this is the one room >> that can be secured. Hmm . . . must be bad luck to ger married in THAT >> room! >> >> So I offered to put a few small radios in the room with the trains. I > know >> what you're thinking; I tried putting a radio next to the trains and >> there >> is no static. But of course we now have the problem of space. There >> must >> be room for a certain number of people to be in the room at a given time. > I >> have tried endlessly to determine where the trains will be, and where >> even >> one radio could be placed in the room, but cannot get a response. Every >> time I ask, I'm told to "ask someone else." As it is now, I'm frustrated > to >> the point of giving up -- after all, I'm the one who was willing to > provide >> all of this to them for free. >> >> It is indeed getting to be a joke -- just how hard is it to plop a radio > in >> a house, particularly when that radio is the reason for the house being >> there in the first place? >> >> So . . . >> >> Realizing that I'm dealing with government, I've taken the initiative to >> provide answers to upcoming questions before they are asked. Here's some >> further information: >> >> Figuring that placing a radio on government property would require an >> environmental study, I've researched this and have determined this radio >> should not present a hazard. >> >> The calculated increase in attendance would require US 41 to be widened >> to >> multiple lanes, with a center turn lane. A sign should be placed at the >> entrance so motorists will know when and where to turn. US 41 indeed has >> the proper number of lanes and a sign has already been provided. >> >> As the radio requires electrical power, wiring in the mansion must be >> properly inspected, and be upgraded to standards which allow a current > draw >> of 35 watts RMS. I have not physically inspected this, but a failure to >> meet code would require the place to be shut down, and all wedding >> receptions would have to be cancelled and money refunded -- so inspection >> has passed. >> >> There is concern that the possibility of ozone emission from a corroded > tube >> socket might create an air quality issue that could increase the bloom of >> red tide. However it has been determined that sea breezes generally move >> eastward, and the natural odor of the red tide would obscure any effects > the >> ozone emission might have on humans or animals. >> >> As the display may continue during evening hours, the radio's dial lamp > has >> been removed so as not to disrupt the hatching of nearby sea turtles. >> (But >> what about the Christmas lights?) >> >> Being on government property, a concern has been raised that this radio > may >> have at one time been tuned to a religious station, creating a conflict >> of >> separation of church and state. However this particular radio has a >> shortwave band, which allows it to receive international signals which >> provide religious and cultural diversity. >> >> With its wood cabinet, it is obvious that trees have been destroyed for > the >> purpose of building this line of radios, contributing to the greenhouse >> effect and global warming. But bear in mind that this radio was built in >> 1941, long before any such measurements or calculations have been made. >> >> Yes, the house has been constructed soundly in such a way as to provide >> adequate support for this 8 pound radio. It has a built-in antenna, and > the >> superhetrodyne oscillator has met all FCC requirements as of the date of >> manufacture, and probably today's standards as well. >> >> So NOW what do they need to know? >> >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> > > Article: 325605 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Cap labels need for C-B 87 project References: <2qX9f.106$4C5.168445@twister.southeast.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:42:12 GMT gb wrote: > Of course the marketing and graphics department of CDE may actually have > that old trademark (can't hurt to ask) > http://www.cde.com/ > That's a great idea, I'll ask them. Thanks, Ron Article: 325606 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 08:20:15 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Crosley radio vs. Crosley mansion References: Message-ID: Gary Tayman wrote: > As I've mentioned in the past, I've been trying to put a radio display in > the Crosley mansion for the holiday season. > > Crosley cars from area cruisers are displayed out back. Upstairs there is > also a display of Crosley radios -- at least I think they're Crosleys, as > their condition is so far gone that many are unrecognizable! I would be > embarrassed to put such trash on display for the public to pay to see. > > So I had a bright idea: why not offer to bring some Crosley radios, put one > in each room, and with the help of an AMT-3000 and a CD player, broadcast > some Christmas music and old time radio? I personally thought this would be > a neat idea -- maybe I'm crazy and need to be admitted in an institution, > because it seems nobody else agrees with me, but I happen to think this > would be a neat idea. > > After talking about it via personal contact, phone calls, and e-mails for a > period of three years, last summer I finally got a glimmer of light. Some > director I had yet to talk to, thought it was a great idea - > > So I offered > one radio could be placed in the room, but cannot get a response. Every > time I ask, I'm told to "ask someone else." As it is now, I'm frustrated to > the point of giving up -- after all, I'm the one who was willing to provide > all of this to them for free. > > It is indeed getting to be a joke -- just how hard is it to plop a radio in > a house, particularly when that radio is the reason for the house being > there in the first place? Gary, it seems to me like no one wants to be the responsible party for allowing you to do this. Yes, it *should* be a simple matter but all it takes is one vistor to trip over the cord or the radio gets stolen. The encargados would just as soon avoid this scenario. If you're dead set on doing this you could probably solicit some co-operation via the "official" route, ie. present a proposal via the county council or whoever deals with such things in that jurisdiction. They may indeed go thru all the crap like you mentioned but in a simpler context they may simply ask that some sort of waiver be signed. Today's litigious (and complaining) society is prone to jump on govt functionaries given half a chance. Consequently these poor devils have to spend much of their focus on covering their behind - which in normal day-to-day operation means not making any obligation or decision. When the request comes from the 'top', ie the county council where blame can be potentially shared, its easier for the low level guy not to balk. Worth a try anyway. Thats how I perceive dealing with local governments and it generally works. Good luck with the project.. -Bill Article: 325607 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 06:48:41 -0700 Message-ID: <11203-4371FE39-6@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: Lesee beerbarrel is the one who posts pictures of dead cats hanging >from trees on the interned .. hmmmm and yikes . anyone would be lucky to be removed from his computer .. Thank god :-) thank you ! Article: 325608 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Advice Needed For Removing Labels References: <11n2tjbe959t06e@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 08:57:22 -0500 Where can Mother's Mag and Aluminum Polish be found? Ken rjbq wrote: > I acquired an RCA 8-X-541 with a Bakelite cabinet. I'm in the process > of cleaning the cabinet. It has a paper label (model and tube diagram) > affixed to the bottom that I would like to remove but save for > reinstallation after the cleaning. What recommendations does this group > have for safely removing the label? What is the best adhesive to use > for reapplying the label? > > As an aside, I found from another forum that Mother's Mag and Aluminum > Polish does a fantastic job of removing the oxidation and restoring the > original shine and color to the Bakelite. It even removed some paint > splatters. > > Thanks, > Richard Article: 325609 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Whats on your bench lately ? Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 06:51:54 -0700 Message-ID: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Its been a while sence we did this . Those of you who are into radios .. whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . Article: 325610 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Advice Needed For Removing Labels References: <11n2tjbe959t06e@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 09:11:48 -0500 Where are Mothers Mag and Aluminum Polish sold? Ken rjbq wrote: > I acquired an RCA 8-X-541 with a Bakelite cabinet. I'm in the process > of cleaning the cabinet. It has a paper label (model and tube diagram) > affixed to the bottom that I would like to remove but save for > reinstallation after the cleaning. What recommendations does this group > have for safely removing the label? What is the best adhesive to use > for reapplying the label? > > As an aside, I found from another forum that Mother's Mag and Aluminum > Polish does a fantastic job of removing the oxidation and restoring the > original shine and color to the Bakelite. It even removed some paint > splatters. > > Thanks, > Richard Article: 325611 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: Back Here For Good References: <11203-4371FE39-6@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:16:22 GMT Ken G. wrote: > Lesee beerbarrel is the one who posts pictures of dead cats hanging > from trees on the interned .. hmmmm and yikes . anyone would be lucky to > be removed from his computer .. Thank god :-) thank you ! Have you seen Tracy exchanging multiple posts with other losers, calling each other endless variations of "queer?" Last time I saw a group of boys do that was the 10th grade. How about his emails about having sex with someone's deceased mother's dead body? Or the one about digging up someone's girlfriend who had been killed in a car accident and molesting her body? He's a real class act; oh, yeah. He's in with a bunch of Usenet hoods on a couple of groups; he's one of the sleazy wannabe guys you see behind the gang leader saying: "Ya, Spike. You sure told'em Spike. You wants me to shoot spitballs at'em now Spike? Huh? Do ya?? Anything you say, Spike, only please like me and let me be in the gang, OK? (smooch smooch lick)" D.S. Article: 325612 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <436ff52c$1@news.meer.net> <4370f218@news.meer.net> Subject: Re: tapped volume controls Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 14:20:05 GMT Tv sets vary in this capacity, I suppose according to the quality of construction of the flyback used. I presently have a Heathkit TV, which is actually close to 25 years old. Heck -- I like it and I still use it. I don't hear the flyback -- but then I don't recall hearing it when I first put it together. Then again as I was growing up we had a Philco TV, one of the very first color sets with the "rectangular" picture tube; I believe we got it in 1966. That thing was so loud I couldn't stand to be in the same room with it! Now I sorta want to see one of those Philcos, just to see if my hearing's changed over the years . . . Come to thin of it, have you ever walked into a Wal-Mart and heard the high-pitched squeal? I don't know if it's a security system or a bug deterrent, but I believe it's higher than the 15,734 Hz of a color TV flyback. (Seems to me they reduced it slightly for color; the old black & white signals were 15,750.) -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns9708E9F6555DFnoone@63.223.7.253... > et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) wrote in > news:dkqt74$lgn$1@theodyn.ncf.ca: > >> ear >> > > There's an interesting subject...... > > Have any of you ever had YOU spectrum analyzed by an audiologist? > > We had audiologists at the Charleston Naval Shipyard that gave all of us > hearing tests every year because we worked in the noisy shipyard. I got > talking to them when my turn came one day and I was there towards the end > of the day when noone else was waiting. I asked him if he could give me a > hearing test that would output a graph of my hearing bandpass more > extensive than the 8 specific frequencies in the normal hearing test. > > He lead me around to another lab and how that one worked was YOU had > control of the level of the tones that slowly swept across from 20-20Khz > in > the precision headphones. The idea was that you adjusted the volume > across > the band to the threshold of what you could hear as the tone swept up in > frequency. I actually had what he called a fairly good response, even > though I was in shock at how awful it looked to me after worrying over the > damned stereo passband all these years. At some places in the band, I had > a hump over 12 db where I was more sensitive than the average of the > graph. > In other places there were 15-20 db DIPS, one big one around 2.4Khz, in > response I was never aware of over narrow bandwidths. I ran through the > tester 3 times and it was always nearly the same. The overall passband > was > from about 45 Hz to 9.5 Khz with quite a slope up as frequency increased. > AT 9.5 Khz, my hearing dropped like a STONE...and stayed that way, finally > terminating around 13 Khz. I was 38 at the time of this test. I'm 59 now > and much worse. > > Question - Can you hear your TV flyback singing at 15,750 Hz? It used to > drive me crazy to watch TV because I could hear the damned horizontal > screaming. So, if you can't too well, what the hell do we care if the > damned stereo reproduces 20 Khz for??!! Is that for the dog?...(c; > > -- > Larry > > RIAA Equalization is overkill....(c; Article: 325613 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: TEST Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 09:25:45 -0500 Cannot Post Article: 325614 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Portable record player amplifier question Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 06:27:51 -0800 Message-ID: <2676-43720767-3@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> References: >Probably two tube sections per channel >-- one to kick up the signal from the >ceramic pickup, the other the output >tube. The really low end stuff used only one tube per channel (typically a 50EH5). With 3V of signal driving it, there was oodles of volume but pretty lousy fidelity, obviously. The cheapo ceramic cartridge was a trade-off of fidelity for high output. oc Article: 325615 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "MIT" References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> <1131547708.597085.91490@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: <0eocf.13701$q%.13235@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 15:04:28 GMT mcmurdo silver mp3 1934 12 tuber.very surprised at how well it works sideband stations-too bad all old radios dont have a bfo but i guess it would show drifiting oscillators in a bad light. waiting in the wings for resto is an mp5 1937-will be interesting to compare the 3 year differences in operating capabilities. mit Article: 325616 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Re: A question about diodes. Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 10:26:02 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1131548270.054401.49540@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 9 Nov 2005 06:57:50 -0800, tschw10117@aol.com wrote: >If your DVM has a diode setting, it will tell you the voltage drop >across the diode on way, OL the other. Otherwise, the resistance >readings are dependent on the range setting and the impedance of the >meter itself. At 1.7 meg, you may just be reading your finger >resistance. Also, in the resistance mode, the voltage applied to the probes is not enough to forward bias the diode junction, ie, 0.7 volts. John Article: 325617 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Anyone used Hope's Furniture Refinisher? Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 10:29:02 -0500 Message-ID: I picked up a can to try it out. It is a mix of methanol, toluene and acetone. Removes old varnish really well but is messy. I learned to wear gloves when using it. You work a small area with 0000 steel wool soaked in the Hopes. Then another application to smooth out the overlapped areas. Finally a dry rub with 0000 and you are all done. Seems to do a nice job although I have not refinished yet. John Article: 325618 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 11:48:54 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: A question about diodes. References: <1131548270.054401.49540@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: tschw10117@aol.com wrote: > If your DVM has a diode setting, it will tell you the voltage drop > across the diode on way, OL the other. I never realized it was displaying the actual voltage drop! Interesting. Will it accurately show the drop on a selenium rectifier? -Bill Article: 325619 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: A question about diodes. Date: 9 Nov 2005 15:58:26 GMT Message-ID: References: <1131548270.054401.49540@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Bill (exray@coqui.net) writes: > tschw10117@aol.com wrote: > >> If your DVM has a diode setting, it will tell you the voltage drop >> across the diode on way, OL the other. > > I never realized it was displaying the actual voltage drop! > Interesting. Will it accurately show the drop on a selenium rectifier? > > -Bill Who has any selenium rectifiers around to check? It definitely will help you sort diodes. I get consistent readings (I forget the exact readings, and I'm not sure if they'd be the exact same with a different meter) with silicon, germanium and I think schottky. Going through some diodes a couple of years ago, realizing that some had to be germanium, I was able to separate out some that clearly had a much lower voltage drop. And when I checked some schottky diodes, they were at a different voltage drop, sufficiently different to let them stand out. MIchael Article: 325620 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> <1131547708.597085.91490@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <0eocf.13701$q%.13235@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 11:05:49 -0500 Message-ID: <43721e6a$0$3755$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> On my bench-- The beginnings of what will be 10 reproduction Z-985 Trans Oceanic Batteries. Ten reproduction Z-1's to follow. Plus a few repro transistor batteries. To go on the 'bay! Bill "MIT" wrote in message news:0eocf.13701$q%.13235@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com... > mcmurdo silver mp3 1934 12 tuber.very surprised at how well it works > sideband stations-too bad all old radios dont have a bfo > but i guess it would show drifiting oscillators in a bad light. > waiting in the wings for resto is an mp5 1937-will be interesting to > compare the 3 year differences in operating > capabilities. > mit > > Article: 325621 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <11n2tjbe959t06e@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Advice Needed For Removing Labels Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 16:15:21 GMT "Ken" wrote in message news:Psncf.25332$2k5.8456@dukeread09... > Where are Mothers Mag and Aluminum Polish sold? Ken > > http://froogle.google.com/froogle_cluster?btnG=Search+Froogle&hl=en&oid=13352155620582282395&pid=4709277296121121464&q=Mothers+Mag+and+Aluminum+Polish&scoring=p Article: 325622 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg) Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 08:14:58 -0800 Message-ID: <805-43722082-96@storefull-3152.bay.webtv.net> References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Working on a Brunswick model 15, recap and the power transformer is bad. I found a used transformer (correct one for the set) and am going to install it. Also a Hallicrafter S-38 that has static. The quick check is a bad 12SQ7. Customer wants it checked out and cleaned and lubed, since it has been 12 years since I last worked on it. Not in warranty any more! Article: 325623 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg) Subject: Re: DIAL COVERS, GLASS AND PLASTIC. Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 08:34:34 -0800 Message-ID: <807-4372251A-4@storefull-3152.bay.webtv.net> References: <6487-436D1F48-584@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Hi Bill: It is always good to see your postings. Glad your son is helping out on your business. Jim Article: 325624 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg) Subject: Phosphur bronze belting needed Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 08:38:53 -0800 Message-ID: <807-4372261D-5@storefull-3152.bay.webtv.net> I am looking for about 3 feet of 5/16 inch belting similar to used on old AK's, but it is wider. General Cement listd it in their 1941 catalog part number 62-25, or 62-C. Article: 325625 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1131554247.099570.78690@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Motorola history site Message-ID: <_Jpcf.19657$5i.9780@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 16:46:50 GMT wrote in message news:1131554247.099570.78690@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > You'll need broadband! Very cool, check out the police radio. (and > everything else) > > https://motofuture.motorola.com/flash_holder.html > > Terry. > Thanks for the heads up on that site. That 1936 police radio sure is a great looking set! jim menning Article: 325626 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> <1131552951.584209.220810@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:03:37 GMT > Ken G. wrote: >> Its been a while sence we did this . Those of you who are into radios .. >> whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . > Well I have at least 50 to 60 sets awaiting attention, but I think my next project will be my Atwater Kent 55C console. The cabinet is in very nice shape, the chassis is nice and clean but as yet unchecked. Should be an interesting excursion into early AC radios. I recently just finished a Splitdorf r-v-500 battery set. A neat and very well built set, and it works surprisingly well. It was my first early battery set restoration. Larry Fowkes Article: 325627 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Motorola history site References: <1131554247.099570.78690@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 17:43:04 GMT tschw10117@aol.com wrote: > https://motofuture.motorola.com/flash_holder.html It's too bad that the company has apparently gone from technological innovations to a business model more like that of SCO (Santa Cruz Operations.) "When in doubt, litigate." Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325628 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "news.cci.net" Subject: WTB:RCA 621ts,721ts,630ts Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 10:05:26 -0800 Message-ID: Send pixs and price. Article: 325629 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:10:25 GMT Just finished up a Panasonic TR-005 "Flying Saucer" TV (mostly a clean and polish job). Next on the list is a Majestic Melody Cruiser. -- Mike Schultz "Ken G." wrote in message news:11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net... > Its been a while sence we did this . Those of you who are into radios .. > whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . > Article: 325630 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "news.cci.net" Subject: look what someone did to this E.H.Scott! Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 11:16:38 -0800 Message-ID: Add's new meaning to phrase "best things are hand made". http://cgi.ebay.com/E-H-Scott-custom-built-chrome-radio-serial-L82_W0QQitemZ5828450673QQcategoryZ50596QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Article: 325631 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: <3q5um1552ilmaeb8k8rc2j0fteirgc39rb@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Rider Chanalyst? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:19:50 -0600 "Dale H. Cook" wrote in message news:fhd3n15h8kr86osm9rmh4smjmb0t0ui4rq@4ax.com... > On Mon, 7 Nov 2005 12:47:17 -0600, "Brian Hill" > wrote: > >>It's not modified.. It's a 162 C with IF/RF Out, AF Out plus it has an >>extra >>plug for gnd. > > Brian - > > When it arrives could you post some clear photos of the front panel? > That's a variant I've never seen before. > > Dale H. Cook, Chief Engineer, Centennial Broadcasting, > Roanoke/Lynchburg, VA - WZZI / WZZU / WLNI / WLEQ > http://members.cox.net/dalehcook/starcity.shtml The manual for this model is on BAMA website. But yes I can B.H. Article: 325632 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" Subject: Victor RE57 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 14:38:45 -0800 Anyone know how many Victor RE 57s were sold, and what the price was in 1930? I got a query from someone with an heirloom. (Be interested to know myself.) Nelson Article: 325633 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 13:47:01 -0700 Message-ID: References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> yamaha QT50 needs a new front end. randy "Ken G." wrote in message news:11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net... > Its been a while sence we did this . Those of you who are into radios .. > whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . > Article: 325634 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 16:54:23 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: > "Ken G." wrote in message > news:11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net... > >>Its been a while sence we did this . Those of you who are into radios .. >>whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . >> > New HB regen shortwave receiver in the works here. -Bill Article: 325635 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43726BD8.7D741BEF@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester References: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> <1131562770.755503.258250@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 16:36:24 -0500 Peter, I was thinking putting the tube tester on my side of my bed but I couldn't convince my wife its a deco night stand with a light and storage... After all my Philco 41-290 console is next to my nightstand... Regards, Sal Brisindi Peter Wieck wrote: > It will go well with the rest of your classics.... but perhaps not in > the front hallway! > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA Article: 325636 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" Subject: Ping Brian B--this stuff is all neat! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 21:38:18 GMT The article about filtering FM for HD radio artifacts alone is worth the trip. -- Free, while supplies last Article: 325637 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: ever refinish a blonde? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:01:40 -0500 By which I mean of course, a blonde radio. It looks like a yellow colour is usually shot over a light wood with a tight grain pattern, just wondering how to touch up the finish if possible, or the colour mix to achieve this finish if I have to strip and re-spray. It seems to chip off in high use areas, like around the knobs. I put a picture on the binaries to show you what I'm trying to explain. regards, Frank Article: 325638 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 16:04:36 -0600 Ken G. wrote: > Its been a while sence we did this . Those of you who are into radios .. > whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . Well here lately anything BUT radios... most recent stuff on the bench has been two movie projectors. An old Keystone 8mm that's built like a tank - needed only a new belt and a touch of grease here and there - did have to go through the take-up clutch- but a bit of cleaning and adjustment was all it needed. 18 200 Ft reels of film later - and I have 5 mini DV tapes full - ready to transfer to the computer. The second projector is a newer dual 8 - and I'm having to go through it pretty seriously. It won't quite get up enough speed to avoid flicker (the Keystone has lot's of extra range - but it won't do the super 8s). I tried using a variac in front of the projector to give just a bit of boost - but the bulb in this thing is VERY sensitive to voltage - and blows at anything over 8V (at about 5-6% over voltage - life goes from a couple hours to a few seconds). PITA. so now I'm looking to increase the speed by mechanical means (pulley) or perhaps rewiring a bit so the motor can be run off the variac while the bulb remains at line. Wish I had another "tank" like the keystone for the super 8s... Radios "scheduled" for the bench- my own 390A - it's suddenly gone deaf... time for a complete recap, etc.; and I've got a Philco 38-116 console I've got to get done for a customer. Even I take a deep breath before "jumping in" one of those... and yeah - Mark - I'll need a dial for this one. I'll get with you about that when I get into it. best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 325639 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:18:17 GMT Ken G. wrote: > Its been a while sence we did this . Those of you who are into radios > .. whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . This evening the 'Allocchio Bacchini' with power transformer troubles has left his space for the Chanalyst. HV secondary was giving 320 and 212 DCV on rectifier plates, it will wait for a spare transformer in another place. The Chanalyst was waiting for new tubes, 76, 6H6 and two eyes were weak. Has new BNCs for signal in/outputs, new caps, a bit of rewiring at power transformer leads, some new resistor and a nice 'mirror/like new' looking. Here: http://www.junkradios.com/bench/bench.htm -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 325640 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: Subject: Re: ever refinish a blonde? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:18:33 GMT I know, I know but...You can't refinish a brunette either, Frank. All their caps are permanently potted. "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message news:qlucf.14634$1L3.615132@news20.bellglobal.com... > By which I mean of course, a blonde radio. It looks like a yellow colour is > usually shot over a light wood with a tight grain pattern, just wondering > how to touch up the finish if possible, or the colour mix to achieve this > finish if I have to strip and re-spray. > > It seems to chip off in high use areas, like around the knobs. I put a > picture on the binaries to show you what I'm trying to explain. > > regards, > Frank > > Article: 325641 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bob Weiss Subject: Re: Heathkit Kit Builder's guide References: <1131193520.918015.168340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131480968.413943.319840@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:33:09 GMT szekeres@pitt.edu wrote: > > It would be even faster if Netscape could decode this page. Same problem here with Firefox. Try a direct link to the image: http://retrotech.ca/Heathkit.shtm/HeathKit/KitBuilder.jpg Bob Weiss N2IXK Article: 325642 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" Subject: OT: wood case? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:41:39 GMT Ebay item: 5631483250 -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 325643 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ron H" References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:00:59 -0600 There is a Philco 116 waiting for bad weather and right behind it is a Central-Electronics 20-A K3PID Ron H. "Ken G." wrote in message news:11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net... > Its been a while sence we did this . Those of you who are into radios .. > whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . > Article: 325644 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:50:21 -0800 "Ken G." wrote in message news:11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net... > Its been a while sence we did this . Those of you who are into radios .. > whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . > Radio from 54 Ford Monarch about to be returned to a friend, with new caps, switch. Atwater Kent Model 20 may be the next patient. Nelson Article: 325645 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 00:24:17 GMT In article , comcents@bellsouth.net says... > > >I've got a Philco 38-116 >console I've got to get done for a customer. Even I take a deep breath >before "jumping in" one of those... and yeah - Mark - I'll need a dial >for this one. I'll get with you about that when I get into it. >randy guttery Randy figure on restuffing the 3 section litic in that philco is easier than trying to find room for the new ones under that skinny chassis.. John k9uwa Article: 325646 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:03:23 GMT "Ken G." wrote in message news:11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net... > Its been a while sence we did this . Those of you who are into radios .. > whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . > On the bench waiting for my capacitor order to arrive: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 325647 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> <1131568479.506737.173940@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:08:38 GMT "Brian" wrote in message news:1131568479.506737.173940@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . > > > This: http://users.tns.net/~bb/sam.htm > > Brian > None of the pictures on that site would show for me. Anyone else having that problem? -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 325648 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Henry Kolesnik" References: Subject: Re: odd variable capacitor ? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:13:08 GMT Jim Who made your TRF with this cap and are the dials calibrated, if so f or wavelength? tnx -- 73 Hank WD5JFR "Jim Haynes" wrote in message news:QPdcf.6064$2y.358@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net... > There was an article in Antique Radio Classified some years ago that > made me aware of capacitors with tapered plates. > > You can look up that patent online www.uspto.gov, click on search > under patents, click on patent number search, put in the number, > and when it tells you click on images. You have to have a tiff viewer > plugin in your web browser to read them. That particular patent seems > to apply to a capacitor with flat plates, so perhaps there was a pending > patent on the tapered plates. > > A variable capacitor with semicircular plates and the axis of rotation > going through the middle and flat plates gives of course a linear > relationship between capacitance and angular rotation. By altering the > plate shape a bit and moving the axis of rotation off-center you can > get a capacitor that tunes straight-line wavelength. Wavelength is > proportional to the square root of capacitance. In the early days of > radio wavelength was often specified instead of frequency. > > You can make a variable capacitor that is straight-line frequency, which > rotation has to be proportional to the reciprocal of the square root of > capacitance. With flat plates this requires a fairly radical plate > shape, with the axis of rotation very far off center. As a result there > has to be a lot of empty space for those long narrow plates to swing > around. > I'll post a picture of one of these to that binaries group. > > So a way to get around the odd plate shape and the space it occupies > is to use plates of tapered thickness. It would be nice if you got > straight-line something, but even if you don't you have something > where the stations are more spread out than they are with straight > line capacitance. > > I have an old TRF receiver of the vintage of multiple knobs and 01A tubes > that uses capacitors like this. > -- > > jhhaynes at earthlink dot net > Article: 325649 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> <1131568479.506737.173940@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:16:19 GMT It's a Flash routine, I think? "Jon" wrote in message news:q4xcf.59899$Bv6.7543@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > "Brian" wrote in message > news:1131568479.506737.173940@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > >> whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . > > > > > > This: http://users.tns.net/~bb/sam.htm > > > > Brian > > > > None of the pictures on that site would show for me. Anyone else having that > problem? > > -- > Jon Scaptura > Endicott, NY > > See my antique radios here: > http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios > > Article: 325650 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: Subject: Re: wood case? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 01:18:26 GMT OY! But the shipping would kill me... "Daniele" wrote in message news:DWucf.31031$65.950227@twister1.libero.it... > Ebay item: 5631483250 > > > -- > > Daniele ^___^ > http://www.tuberadio.it > > Article: 325651 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 19:33:21 -0600 John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > Randy figure on restuffing the 3 section litic in that philco is easier > than trying to find room for the new ones under that skinny chassis.. Oh, yeah. That's part of my "dread" of getting into these... Way too many parts stuffed into way too tiny of space. That "floating" middle chassis is a PITA to recap. I've often wondered why Philco and Zenith couldn't come to some sort of compromise... turing over one of these is like rolling over a big rock and finding a pile of night crawlers --- turning over most Zeniths is like walking into a huge empty room (HELLO? Hello? hello?)... And I'm still debating whether to bypass the "xformer wart" with some silicon (leave the 5X4 for show, of course). Saves roughly 10% of the power (and heat). I left the "xformer wart" hooked up in my 37-640 - but I often wonder how much heat / stress that puts on the xformer that it wouldn't otherwise suffer. Whoever came up with that idea, anyway - I mean other than saving a little space on the chassis - why???? Then again - Philco does have it's - ah - unique personality... best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 325652 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: Subject: Re: wood case? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 17:55:14 -0800 "Daniele" wrote in message news:DWucf.31031$65.950227@twister1.libero.it... > Ebay item: 5631483250 > Daniele ^___^ > http://www.tuberadio.it Looks uncomfortable. Nelson Article: 325653 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester References: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:47:09 -0500 Sal Brisindi wrote: > Today I picked up my new toy, a Eico 660 store self service tube tester > which is made by Mercury. I also bought a vintage tube tester sign, both > on ebay from 2 different sellers. Details and photos at > http://www.tuberadios.com/eico660/ > > Regards, > Sal Brisindi > http://www,tuberadios.com > > cc:antique radio forum > > Is that a 6BG6G in the socket being tested? Article: 325654 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: Subject: Re: wood case? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 20:54:48 -0500 "Nelson Gietz" wrote in message news:Mvxcf.5840$lb7.66944@news1.mts.net... > > "Daniele" wrote in message > news:DWucf.31031$65.950227@twister1.libero.it... >> Ebay item: 5631483250 > >> Daniele ^___^ >> http://www.tuberadio.it > > Looks uncomfortable. > Nelson And yet I hear people are dying to get into these... Article: 325655 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester References: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 20:56:15 -0500 Gary Tayman wrote: > Even when calibrated correctly, these testers were a great way to make > money, and a serviceman's best friend. > > Think about it -- how many radios have you seen that didn't work, where the > problem was a tube? Yet, just like the joke about a boy who lost a nickel a > block away, but is looking for it here because the light's better, tubes are > easy to check; so a consumer will remove all the tubes and take them to the > nearest 7-11 store for testing. Invariably at least one tube will be > weak -- so he buys it, and puts the radio back together only to find it > still doesn't work. The radio is then taken in for repair. > > A few years ago I wrote a page on "how to fix your own car radio" which > walks you through the basic steps of checking for 12 volts, speaker > connections, etc. For me it was a free ad, as newsletters and magazines > reprinted this article (sometimes without my permission) and people used it. > Generally this resulted in non-technical people trying without success to > fix it, and I would get it for repair. Now that I'm back into original > service the page has returned, but at present it's still too new to bring > results. If you want to see what I'm talking about, it is at: > > http://home.gate.net/~gtayman/check.htm > > I'm expanding on it however. I'm planning to write some "tech tips" for > various car radios, which may be as helpful to you, as technicians, as it is > to me from inept people who try to do it. I've already written one that I > will post soon -- how to access the on-off switch on a 1956-57 T-Bird. My > next one will be how to fix a slipping tuner thumbwheel on a 68-69 Mopar. > Such articles will no doubt find their way into Thunderbird/Roadrunner/etc. > magazines, providing free advertising into places which would otherwise be > very expensive. > > > Those drug store tube testers could at least show if a tube wasn't totally dead (which except for 1.4v filament types rarely happens). They probably could also weed out shorted 6X5's (though the smell of burning power tranny would have given that away first). I remember bringing 'tons' of tubes pulled from old tv's and radios to the drug store to test. I'd keep anything that read at least in the '?' area and wasn't shorted. If you watched carefully what the tube tester was trying to tell you, you could at least weed out the problem tubes. If you hold the test button down while the tube is warming up the meter should slowly ramp up, not jump all at once. If it takes too long for the meter to reach full max. deflection, that may also be an indicator of a bad tube (or one nearing the end of life). If the meter pointer vibrates badly while moving it may also be an indication of a problem (unless ALL tubes test that way which means the tube tester has a problem, or is next to a refridgeration unit such as an ice cream case!). Article: 325656 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: Subject: Re: wood case? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 02:15:02 GMT "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message news:JLxcf.11354$EK.326860@news20.bellglobal.com... > "Nelson Gietz" wrote in message > news:Mvxcf.5840$lb7.66944@news1.mts.net... > > > > "Daniele" wrote in message > > news:DWucf.31031$65.950227@twister1.libero.it... > >> Ebay item: 5631483250 > > > >> Daniele ^___^ > >> http://www.tuberadio.it > > > > Looks uncomfortable. > > Nelson > > And yet I hear people are dying to get into these... Cheaper than an NYC loft. Article: 325657 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 02:48:25 GMT Oh boy, where do I start? Lessee, today I finished up a radio from a 56 T-Bird, and another from a 65 T-Bird, both conversions. Also on the bench is a 67 Dodge Coronet, stripped and ready to convert, and a 56 Lincoln Mark II, owned by a celebrity, in the process. Waiting in the wings are a 64 T-Bird, 70 El Camino, 69 AMX, 50 Studebaker, and another unit that I have yet to open the box. For restoration I've got a real humdinger. This radio was in a 55 T-Bird, but it is not a T-Bird radio. Unlike the typical Ford, there is no model number; however it is definitely a Ford, is definitely American as opposed to Canadian or foreign, and is definitely a Sylvania. It appears to be either a 53 or 54 Ford deluxe 8-tube radio -- Sams has schematics for both, but side by side I have yet to see a difference between the two. I also know that for whatever reason, these radios don't have model numbers stamped on them. So, what's the problem? For starters, some of the tubes were missing, some were in the wrong sockets, and some were incorrect for the radio. I tested the tubes that were in there and only one was good -- others were totally dud, shorted, or otherwise. After putting the tubes in the right sockets I applied power (via external supply) and it worked, but poorly. Upon scrutiny I found that someone has rewired parts of the audio amp. Some of it made no sense whatsoever, for example there was a 100 ohm resistor that went from ground to ground. As I continued to trace out wiring I found a BUNCH of mistakes, and what's worse, this radio has been recapped (very sloppy job) with incorrect capacitors! So here I go a-rewiring. But there's more! Some of the miswiring seems to have come from the factory! It seems V4 and V5 have been reversed for some reason, and there are other inconsistencies. I suppose possibly this isn't a 53 or 54 Ford radio, but if not, what? The 52 is entirely different, and the 55 is round. Mercury and Lincoln had radios with entirely different trim. Canadian versions have flared pushbuttons and say "F. M. Co" instead of FoMoCo. So I have a radio that's somewhat different from the schematic for a 53/54, but I cannot identify it. I called the dealer and let them know this radio could get very expensive -- they're willing to pay it. So the only choice is to continue rewiring the entire audio section according to Sams, and take it from there. Such excitement! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Ken G." wrote in message news:11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net... > Its been a while sence we did this . Those of you who are into radios .. > whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . > Article: 325658 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:02:13 -0500 Message-ID: <11n5e1r68ms9k22@corp.supernews.com> References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> I have a early model Philco 116 tombstone (shouldered), Emerson DS365, and Arce (French) model 43 tombstone that will all have cabinet and chassis redone by Turkey Day. Also I have redone the top of my Silvertone 4586 console, it and my Scott Phantom in a Braemar will form the projects to begin 2006. John H. Article: 325659 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: A question about diodes. Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:04:11 -0500 Message-ID: <11n5e5bnkmg765c@corp.supernews.com> References: <1131548270.054401.49540@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Michael Black wrote: > > > > Who has any selenium rectifiers around to check? Exactly- destroy ALL of them ! John H. Article: 325660 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: SC-140K looks original but is it? Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:06:24 -0500 Message-ID: <11n5e9gp3ds6ia6@corp.supernews.com> References: <1131565130.898162.134330@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Right in my backyard, love Strombergs, but THAT frightens me..... John H. Article: 325661 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 03:10:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> <1131568479.506737.173940@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In "Steven Dinius_" writes: >It's a Flash routine, I think? No. >"Jon" wrote in message >news:q4xcf.59899$Bv6.7543@twister.nyroc.rr.com... >> >> "Brian" wrote in message >> news:1131568479.506737.173940@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> >> whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . >> > >> > >> > This: http://users.tns.net/~bb/sam.htm >> > >> > Brian >> > >> >> None of the pictures on that site would show for me. Anyone else having >that >> problem? Works with Firefox. It's a very straightforward page. See if you can view this: http://users.tns.net/~bb/sam3.jpg That's the very first image. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 325662 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Heriberto" References: Subject: Re: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 00:14:44 -0300 Message-ID: <4372b9d8_2@x-privat.org> Hello: A good tube for thisapplicattion is a 6336B Look at http://www.deremate.com.ar/accdb/ViewItem.asp?IDI=9835995 Regards Heriberto "Chris Suslowicz" escribió en el mensaje news:BF92F53296685CC3D@192.168.1.23... > In article , > novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) wrote: > > >The best high current PS I have seen uses the same topology as the GE > >1-compactron one but uses several 6080 (6AS7) in parallel. > > 6080s are good for this. I used to have a regulated supply from an old > Ampex VR-1000 (2" reel-to-reel VTR) that delivered 250V at 6.5A. > > > I have an > >old transformer I am saving for that kind of thing that puts out > >650Vct at 850mA. I have a TV transformer that is 550 at 250mA, but it is > >being saved also. That's alot of iron. > > At the end of the day, the transformer is goung to be the biggest (and > certainly the heaviest and most expensive) single component. > > Quality does not come cheap. > > Chris. > > Article: 325663 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: Subject: Re: Emerson CY286 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 03:20:48 GMT Check to see that the wheel doesn't slip and catch on part of the chassis. "Theresa McCarty" wrote in message news:nPqdnVHE5__4Ku_eRVn-jw@qx.net... > Emerson CY286 1939 --6 tubes 6A8 6K7 (L49B) 12SQ7 25Z6 25L6 --2 bands > 55-160, 2.4-7.0 --4 "mechanical" pushbuttons. > No back, but HOT, HOT performer with a slinky. > I WILL figure out how to string it so that the tuning cap will rotate beyond > > 1140 WRVA Richmond. > I 'think' I need an extra turn around the dial pointer pully-- which 'runs > out' at 1140. > What's interesting is that the 'bottom' half of the tuning cap and all the > 'internal' pushbutton gizmos [which move the tuning cap] are solder-sealed > inside a box under the chassis. > One post on Google Groups, Jim Cross 1997. One listing on web for manual. > > Article: 325664 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> <1131568479.506737.173940@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: <13zcf.1628$ZA3.339754@monger.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 03:23:41 GMT "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:dkudnc$l5$1@reader2.panix.com... > In "Steven Dinius_" writes: > > >It's a Flash routine, I think? > > No. Works for me. Windows 98 SE and I think Flash 8...works good for the lowest of the lowest common denomenators > >"Jon" wrote in message > >news:q4xcf.59899$Bv6.7543@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > >> > >> "Brian" wrote in message > >> news:1131568479.506737.173940@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > >> >> whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . > >> > > >> > > >> > This: http://users.tns.net/~bb/sam.htm > >> > > >> > Brian > >> > > >> > >> None of the pictures on that site would show for me. Anyone else having > >that > >> problem? > > Works with Firefox. It's a very straightforward page. See if you > can view this: > > http://users.tns.net/~bb/sam3.jpg > > That's the very first image. > > -- > Tim Mullen > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. > ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 325665 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4372BF5A.AB01E98E@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: My November Find - Eico 660 Store Tube Tester References: <43701556.A31E9718@optonline.net> Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:32:42 -0500 Damn your good, but you got the filament wrong. Its a 19BG6G Regards, Sal Ken Scharf wrote: > > Is that a 6BG6G in the socket being tested? From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Sat Nov 12 05:55:30 EST 2005 Article: 325666 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Back Here For Good References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> <7jacf.19586$5i.12830@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <43713dd6$0$82665$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> <43713FDD.3C47C63E@optonline.net> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 9 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 03:49:34 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1131594574 66.65.49.10 (Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:49:34 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:49:34 EST Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:325666 In article <43713FDD.3C47C63E@optonline.net>, Sal Brisindi wrote: > Even Italians?... ;-) I've got two Eye-talian radios floating around here. I gotta get around to re-gluing the case on one of them someday. :) -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. From adouglasatgis.net Sat Nov 12 05:55:30 EST 2005 Article: 325667 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Victor RE57 Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:30:37 -0500 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-603.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news2 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:325667 Hi, >Anyone know how many Victor RE 57s were sold, and what the >price was in 1930? 28,601. It listed for $285. Alan Article: 325668 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> <7jacf.19586$5i.12830@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <43713dd6$0$82665$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> <43713FDD.3C47C63E@optonline.net> Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 03:57:22 GMT "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:slrndn5gqe.440.stephanie@home3.gordsven.com... > In article <43713FDD.3C47C63E@optonline.net>, Sal Brisindi wrote: > > Even Italians?... ;-) > > I've got two Eye-talian radios floating around here. I gotta get around > to re-gluing the case on one of them someday. :) > > -- > Stephanie Weil > New York City, U.S.A. Any from Portland, Oregano? From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Sat Nov 12 05:55:30 EST 2005 Article: 325669 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Secret Santa 2005? ( Gift exchange?) References: Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 11 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 03:57:48 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1131595068 66.65.49.10 (Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:57:48 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:57:48 EST Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!208.48.142.85!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!news-west.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:325669 In article , Brenda Ann wrote: > Getting to be that time of year... will there be an exchange this year? Our Hmm....I should get back into the habit of checking RAR+P on a daily basis. You just beat me to the very question I was going to ask! -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Sat Nov 12 05:55:31 EST 2005 Article: 325670 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Secret Santa '05 References: Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 11 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 03:59:28 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1131595168 66.65.49.10 (Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:59:28 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:59:28 EST Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!news2.wam.umd.edu!nntp.abs.net!newsread.com!news-xfer.newsread.com!news.glorb.com!cycny01.gnilink.net!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:325670 In article , Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Send me email with "Secret Santa '05" in the subject line. Jeff, Count me in for this year. Where do I send the e-mail? -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Sat Nov 12 05:55:31 EST 2005 Article: 325671 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 11 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 04:06:20 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1131595580 66.65.49.10 (Wed, 09 Nov 2005 23:06:20 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 23:06:20 EST Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:325671 In article <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net>, Ken G. wrote: > whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . Well....my latest job was replacing the mica caps in the IF transformers on a Zenith clock radio. I'm amazed I got it right the first time!!!! -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 325672 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 21:19:21 -0700 Message-ID: References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> <5Iacf.1524$ZA3.321994@monger.newsread.com> adding their names to your sig seems to defeat the purpose of kill filing them. they still own you.... randy > > Kill filtered and never to return > --------------------------------- > mII and ole boney!, Peter Wieck, David > David Stinson, Steven Dinius, Ken G > Sylvain Vanier, Honus, John Barnard, M Article: 325673 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <1131565130.898162.134330@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11n5e9gp3ds6ia6@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: SC-140K looks original but is it? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 04:18:58 GMT "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:utadneyZUbIVVO_eRVn-qQ@giganews.com... > I like S-Cs, too, but that one's clunky, with or without paint. > > The paint reminds me of that "sponged on" faux stuff that people used 20 > years ago. I suppose they had sponges back in Ye Olden Dayes, too . . . . > > Just my $0.02. > > Phil Nelson Finishes, or makeup? Article: 325674 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> <5Iacf.1524$ZA3.321994@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 04:21:50 GMT Who could own you, randy? You are the *king* of smackeycrackey.com, baybee. "xrongor" wrote in message news:dkuho2$bihm$1@news3.infoave.net... > adding their names to your sig seems to defeat the purpose of kill filing > them. they still own you.... > > randy > > > > > Kill filtered and never to return > > --------------------------------- > > mII and ole boney!, Peter Wieck, David > > David Stinson, Steven Dinius, Ken G > > Sylvain Vanier, Honus, John Barnard, M > > Article: 325675 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Secret Santa '05 From: "xrongor" Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 21:25:42 -0700 Message-ID: References: is there some sort of target 'value' for this gift exchange? does it have to be a radio or just something that vaguely relates to them? randy > To everyone else. Here's the rules: > > Send me email with "Secret Santa '05" in the subject line. > Include a valid email address to contact you with, and a > valid shipping address. > > I'll stir up the hat and assign the givers and takers the day > after thanksgiving. > > Remember, don't forget to post here what you got. Try to keep your > responses under this subject thread. > > Thanks > > Jeff aka "Santa's little helper" > > > -- > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325676 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 04:32:48 GMT In article , comcents@bellsouth.net says... > > >Oh, yeah. That's part of my "dread" of getting into these... Way too >many parts stuffed into way too tiny of space. That "floating" middle >chassis is a PITA to recap. Yup... sort of .. you can do this without unsoldering any of the side chassis... first ... cut two wires from the dial and remove it... the whole assembly.. then take apart that whole erector set arrangement... 4 separate chassis and a pile of screws.. then roll the two side chassis up on top of the center section... turn the whole works upside down and remove sides of the center and recap... check all the coils with ohm-meter while you have it apart.... and hope like hell they are all good!.. at that point it looks more like a pile of junk than a radio chassis.. Yup I have done a few of them... John k9uwa Article: 325677 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 22:59:05 -0600 Mark Oppat wrote: > Randy, dont worry about the Philco xfmers, we hardly ever see a bad one! > (Not true for Zenith, I might add). Stick with the 5X4. It'll be kinder to > your 'lytics. Probably true - but modern ones don't mind all that much - and yeah - I admit that I've seen precious few Philcos with bad transformers. > On the 3 sect. filter cap, I think two of those sects can be traced out of > there to a better spot. Yeah - there's a couple of ways to do that - but with modern caps so small these days - getting three in that can isn't all that hard. As John notes in another post - getting the chassis "down" for access is more nerve than actual difficulty - as you do wind up with a "pile" of stuff where the chassis was a half hour ago... I do tend to unsolder the chassis interconnects, though - and then you've got four more manageable chassis than flopping parts tied together with a tangle of spaghetti... And yeah - one of the coils was what I've been looking for - for quite some time. hard to find! best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 325678 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <1131554247.099570.78690@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Motorola history site Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 05:39:59 GMT As I saw the other day on a site having to do with archives/drivers (was it Epson?), SCO doesn't even have that name anymore. "John Byrns" wrote in message news:jbyrns-0911052335360001@216-80-74-62.d.enteract.com... > In article , jangus@socal.rr.com wrote: > > > tschw10117@aol.com wrote: > > > > > https://motofuture.motorola.com/flash_holder.html > > > > It's too bad that the company has apparently gone from > > technological innovations to a business model more like > > that of SCO (Santa Cruz Operations.) "When in doubt, > > litigate." > > Aren't their business models a little different, I thought Motorola is > still moving a fair amount of merchandise, while from what I have heard > SCO isn't selling much of anything? Who is Motorola litigating against > that has you all hot and bothered? > > In any case I don't believe that SCO originated the business model you are > talking about, wasn't it E.H.Armstrong that came up with that business > model after he invented wide band FM, giving up any further inventing to > pursue litigation? > > > Regards, > > John Byrns > > > Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ Article: 325679 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Date: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 22:40:43 -0700 Message-ID: <18797-4372DD5B-17@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: Wow its nice to see so many are just a soldering away . I enjoy reading about all of your radio adventures . There is just something nice about a quiet afternoon at the radio bench taking each step of repair and not worry about anything . My last adventure was the Zenith rust bucket chassis i had posted several pictures of and how i painted it etc. It was a 6 volt chassis that i turned into an AC chassis by adding a regular power transformer a 5Y3 tube a couple resistors and different dial bulb socket . It fired right off after all the parts were wired up . It threw me quite a few curves trying to get it aligned with a # 15 tube acting up at times but now it works very well . Its all done ... i have not posted new pictures The one that is apart now is an Airmaster table radio with a slide rule dial and motor driven station preset feature . A fiber gear has several teeth sheared off in one spot so i am workng on finding a gear . Jim Berg is sending me a possible match . Its kinda hard to find something like this . If Jims gear does not work i have salvaged several nice nylon gear sets out of a used printer and will replace both gears . I have only had one other motor tuning set ( Scott 800B ) and this one works much the same and is an interesting thing to play with and get going again . Article: 325680 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Clive" Subject: Re: What countries use the Long Wave band for broadcasting? Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:17:03 +0100 Message-ID: References: "John Byrns" wrote in message news:jbyrns-0911052333300001@216-80-74-62.d.enteract.com... > What Countries use the Long Wave band for Broadcasting? I know the Long > Wave band is used for broadcasting in Europe, while it is not used for > broadcasting in the US, and probably not in the rest of the Americas > either. What about Asia? Specifically does either Japan or Australia use > the Long Wave band for broadcasting? > > Russia is a heavy user of Longwave and as you say, Western Europe..England and France . Australia dabbled with LongWave in the 1920's, but I don't think it is used any longer. Strange as I would have thought that Long Wave would have been ideal for Australia's terrain. Here is a Wiki link showing current LongWave broadcasters - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave (As it's Wiki, take the info with a pinch of salt !) //Clive. Article: 325681 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Date: Wed, 09 Nov 2005 23:07:24 -0800 Message-ID: References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Ken G. wrote: > Its been a while sence we did this . Those of you who are into radios .. > whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . > I like to keep one big long project on the bench, with enough room on the rest of the bench for quickie projects that don't require much time or only modest effort. Right now, the big project on the bench is Hammarlund HQ-180AX communications receiver. It was completely deaf when I first turned it on. I have got it mostly working now by replacing two or three very weak tubes and fixing problems with the bandswitch. I still have to figure out why the set howls when tuned to any station on the upper two bands. The previous big item on the bench was a basket-case R-274A Military receiver (SP600-JX1) that I brought back to life. I repainted and relettered the front panel and bezels, cleaned all the grunge off the chassis, lubicated and cleaned the gear train and gave it a full recap. A lot of work, but it was worth it.....It's super hot on the SW bands. The last quickie on the bench was a Sony ICF-5900W portable multi-band radio, a $7.00 flea market find. None of the bands worked when I first turned the set on. After I pulled the chassis it was apparent that the radio had been submerged or left out in the rain for a long time. Rust everywhere, corroded tuning meter movement, and a speaker cone made of warped mush. Replacing the meter involved taking the new meter's movement out of its case and and then cutting the case to fit, then photoshopping the meter scale to so that all the markings were positioned opposite to the old meter. The replacement speaker came out of a junked Sony clock radio. Cleaning the controls and switches and washing the case and knobs made it act like new. It's a very nice little portable now. -Scott Article: 325682 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Clive" Subject: Re: What countries use the Long Wave band for broadcasting? Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:27:58 +0100 Message-ID: References: "Clive" wrote in message news:dkus5e$ua4$1@news.al.sw.ericsson.se... > > Here is a Wiki link showing current LongWave broadcasters - > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Longwave (As it's Wiki, take the info with a > pinch of salt !) > I take my own advice, Wiki states that on 198khz there is only the BBC and Radio Poland although here in Sweden my attempts to listen to BBC Radio 4 on 198khz are thwarted by some big Russian station which shuts down around 11pm (at which point I can then receive the BBC). //Clive. Article: 325683 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:04:50 GMT Phil, Jan is a class act! Someone who is always available, and who can always give you good advice as well as adding a little spice to this hobby of ours! His web site, http://www.die-wuestens.de/eindex.htm Take a look at his wares. Omer "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:YbydnbcVucqA5e_eRVn-pQ@giganews.com... > Just finished a Tesla Talisman 308U: http://antiqueradio.org/tesla308u.htm > . > > Now I need to get back to that Radiola III. > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > > Article: 325684 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" Subject: New Radio Site Message-ID: <5tDcf.7116$m81.4107@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:24:33 GMT Check this site out! http://www.midcenturyradios.com/index.html Omer Article: 325685 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 08:22:34 GMT No, the truck radios are entirely different. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:IJednaj-PPh_UO_eRVn-uQ@comcast.com... > Gary, those "mystery sets" are always fun. Around the Detroit area, I > have > found some prototype stuff got smuggled out of the plants at Ford, GM, > CHrysler, etc over the years. I still have some late 80's Ford sample > radios supplied by Sony for testing. > On that 53/54 "Ford" set, it could be Ford Truck? > > Mark Oppat > > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:Zxycf.1597$c_1.1186@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> Oh boy, where do I start? >> >> Lessee, today I finished up a radio from a 56 T-Bird, and another from a > 65 >> T-Bird, both conversions. Also on the bench is a 67 Dodge Coronet, > stripped >> and ready to convert, and a 56 Lincoln Mark II, owned by a celebrity, in > the >> process. Waiting in the wings are a 64 T-Bird, 70 El Camino, 69 AMX, 50 >> Studebaker, and another unit that I have yet to open the box. >> >> For restoration I've got a real humdinger. This radio was in a 55 >> T-Bird, >> but it is not a T-Bird radio. Unlike the typical Ford, there is no model >> number; however it is definitely a Ford, is definitely American as >> opposed >> to Canadian or foreign, and is definitely a Sylvania. It appears to be >> either a 53 or 54 Ford deluxe 8-tube radio -- Sams has schematics for > both, >> but side by side I have yet to see a difference between the two. I also >> know that for whatever reason, these radios don't have model numbers > stamped >> on them. >> >> So, what's the problem? For starters, some of the tubes were missing, > some >> were in the wrong sockets, and some were incorrect for the radio. I > tested >> the tubes that were in there and only one was good -- others were totally >> dud, shorted, or otherwise. After putting the tubes in the right sockets > I >> applied power (via external supply) and it worked, but poorly. Upon >> scrutiny I found that someone has rewired parts of the audio amp. Some >> of >> it made no sense whatsoever, for example there was a 100 ohm resistor >> that >> went from ground to ground. As I continued to trace out wiring I found a >> BUNCH of mistakes, and what's worse, this radio has been recapped (very >> sloppy job) with incorrect capacitors! >> >> So here I go a-rewiring. But there's more! Some of the miswiring seems > to >> have come from the factory! It seems V4 and V5 have been reversed for > some >> reason, and there are other inconsistencies. I suppose possibly this > isn't >> a 53 or 54 Ford radio, but if not, what? The 52 is entirely different, > and >> the 55 is round. Mercury and Lincoln had radios with entirely different >> trim. Canadian versions have flared pushbuttons and say "F. M. Co" > instead >> of FoMoCo. So I have a radio that's somewhat different from the >> schematic >> for a 53/54, but I cannot identify it. I called the dealer and let them >> know this radio could get very expensive -- they're willing to pay it. >> So >> the only choice is to continue rewiring the entire audio section >> according >> to Sams, and take it from there. Such excitement! >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> >> >> "Ken G." wrote in message >> news:11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net... >> > Its been a while sence we did this . Those of you who are into radios >> > .. >> > whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . >> > >> >> >> > > > Article: 325686 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 07:36:17 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: What countries use the Long Wave band for broadcasting? References: Message-ID: <3b0a0$437330b3$4232bd4c$1003@COQUI.NET> John Byrns wrote: > What Countries use the Long Wave band for Broadcasting? I know the Long > Wave band is used for broadcasting in Europe, while it is not used for > broadcasting in the US, and probably not in the rest of the Americas > either. What about Asia? Specifically does either Japan or Australia use > the Long Wave band for broadcasting? Neither Japan or Australia use LW for Broadcasting. My understanding is that the ITU has assigned LW Broadcasting for all of Region One. This would include all of Africa http://www.iaru.org/ituzonesc.gif but other than the quasi-French stations in the North no one else is utilizing it there. There have been, and maybe still are, some from Asiatic Russia. -Bill Article: 325687 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> <7-adnZU7CfjiUe_eRVn-gg@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:49:34 GMT I guess I didn't realize that you sell caps. I ordered from Canada. I've been getting all my caps there lately, mainly because of the easy online ordering. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:7-adnZU7CfjiUe_eRVn-gg@comcast.com... > Jon, > I didnt get that cap order... did you spend more $$$ in Canada? Still > waiting? hmm..... ;) > > Mark Oppat > Antique Audio > email for cap price flyer.... > Xicon, at lower prices !!! > > > "Jon" wrote in message > news:v%wcf.59896$Bv6.43924@twister.nyroc.rr.com... >> >> "Ken G." wrote in message >> news:11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net... >> > Its been a while sence we did this . Those of you who are into radios >> > .. >> > whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . >> > >> >> On the bench waiting for my capacitor order to arrive: >> >> http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam >> >> >> -- >> Jon Scaptura >> Endicott, NY >> >> See my antique radios here: >> http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios >> >> >> > > > Article: 325688 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: What countries use the Long Wave band for broadcasting? Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:16:14 +0900 Message-ID: References: <3b0a0$437330b3$4232bd4c$1003@COQUI.NET> "Bill" wrote in message news:3b0a0$437330b3$4232bd4c$1003@COQUI.NET... > John Byrns wrote: >> What Countries use the Long Wave band for Broadcasting? I know the Long >> Wave band is used for broadcasting in Europe, while it is not used for >> broadcasting in the US, and probably not in the rest of the Americas >> either. What about Asia? Specifically does either Japan or Australia >> use >> the Long Wave band for broadcasting? > > Neither Japan or Australia use LW for Broadcasting. > > My understanding is that the ITU has assigned LW Broadcasting for all of > Region One. This would include all of Africa > http://www.iaru.org/ituzonesc.gif but other than the quasi-French > stations in the North no one else is utilizing it there. > There have been, and maybe still are, some from Asiatic Russia. > > -Bill I know there are some LW broadcasts in Siberia and/or southern Russia, in the areas north of Korea. I pick up at least two different transmissions that seem to be regular news and entertainment broadcasts in Russian, I think one is from the Vladivostok area. Article: 325689 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: FA: Bakelite speaker on eBay - British Thomson Houston (Type E From: Jim Stewart Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:21:30 GMT FA: Bakelite speaker on eBay - British Thomson Houston (Type E Form C) Rare, very good condition. Selling now on eBay with NO RESERVE! Please check out my auction http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6225411955 Located in the UK, but will ship internationally. Jim -- My reply-to address is not valid. Please contact me at songs underscore in underscore the underscore attic at hotmail dot com. Article: 325690 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:05:49 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <2fa1a$437353c0$4232bd4c$14908@COQUI.NET> Bill wrote: > >> "Ken G." wrote in message >> news:11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net... >> >>> Its been a while sence we did this . Those of you who are into radios .. >>> whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . >>> >> > New HB regen shortwave receiver in the works here. > > -Bill I had been working on a picture 'blog' for this project and have now posted it at http://www.sparkbench.com/homebrew/AcornSet/acorn.html I tend to forget what I've done (or what I'm doing!) as I move on to different things. So it helps to have a reminder! Googling the web can be easier than finding my own notes. -Bill Article: 325691 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" Subject: Riders Electronic Index Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:04:39 -0500 Message-ID: <43735544$0$27771$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> A while back I downloaded a great little program which electronically indexs Riders and Beitmans manuals, and also SAMS I believe. At any rate this is a great help, however I need to download it again and re-install on a new computer. I can't seem to find a current link to the program. Anybody happen to have it handy? Thanks in advance .. Larry Fowkes Article: 325692 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: OT: wood case? References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:51:16 GMT Thinking of building a coffin radio from scratch there? Jeff Daniele wrote: > Ebay item: 5631483250 > > > -- > > Daniele ^___^ > http://www.tuberadio.it > > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325693 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Secret Santa '05 References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:53:15 GMT Stephanie Weil wrote: > Jeff, > > Count me in for this year. Where do I send the e-mail? jangus at socal dot rr dot com Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325694 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Secret Santa '05 References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:58:40 GMT xrongor wrote: > is there some sort of target 'value' for this gift exchange? does it have > to be a radio or just something that vaguely relates to them? > > randy I'd like to say, "Let's not go nuts out there." So you don't intimidate others. The short answer, give what you think is appropriate. It really is the thought, not the price that counts. As I'd said in the past, "Take a look under your work bench" for something you think somebody else might want. But then there's the problem of some of the participants, Alan Douglas comes to mind, has "trash" that exceeds the value of some of my "treasures." Santa's little helper -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325695 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <43735544$0$27771$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> Subject: Re: Riders Electronic Index Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:09:08 GMT Sounds like Scott Harvey's...just look for his signature and you should find it. "Larry Fowkes" wrote in message news:43735544$0$27771$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com... > A while back I downloaded a great little program which electronically indexs > Riders and Beitmans manuals, and also SAMS I believe. At any rate this is a > great help, however I need to download it again and re-install on a new > computer. I can't seem to find a current link to the program. Anybody happen > to have it handy? > > Thanks in advance .. Larry Fowkes > > From popipnouattfree.fr Sat Nov 12 05:55:36 EST 2005 Article: 325696 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Popipnou" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: ZENITH TRANSOCEANIC WAVE MAGNET MODEL L600 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:12:19 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Lines: 12 Message-ID: <43736377$0$5299$636a15ce@news.free.fr> Organization: Guest of ProXad - France NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 Nov 2005 16:12:55 MET NNTP-Posting-Host: 82.252.155.60 X-Trace: 1131635575 news16-e.free.fr 5299 82.252.155.60:2495 X-Complaints-To: abuse@proxad.net Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.vt.edu!guardian.oit.duke.edu!news.glorb.com!news.cs.univ-paris8.fr!proxad.net!infeed-2.proxad.net!news16-e.free.fr!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:325696 Hello of France. I seek a lamp of reference 50A1 thus that the diagram radio station ZENITH TRANSOCEANIC WAVE MAGNET MODELE L600 Make offer.Thank you in advance. popipnou@free.fr Excuse my bad translation. Article: 325698 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Simon" Subject: old valve textbook Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:05:53 -0000 Message-ID: <11n6rv654gmg005@corp.supernews.com> I also posted this on rec.audio.tubes, but I thought some of you might be able to help. Do any of you recognise this book: http://img21.imagevenue.com/img.php?loc=loc135&image=8e0_book.jpg I inherited it from my Grandfather, but unfortunately my dad (or one of my uncles) ripped the cover off, tore out a few pages & scribbled on some of the pages. The references at the end of each chapter are all earlier than 1939, so I would imagine to book was written around then. I'd love to get hold of an intact copy. Cheers, Simon Article: 325699 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: <1131338472.027874.6130@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131404103.306176.229810@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5V8cf.52486$Pe2.982577@twister2.libero.it> <43713fa0$0$82628$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> Subject: Re: Help: Frying power transformer Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:36:21 GMT GBrown wrote: > Martin, center tap is just that, a center tap. there is no extra > turns on one side or the other of center tap. 105 ohms difference is > wayyyyyyy to much. There is a problem with that much difference. > Voltages are figured by VPT (volts per turn), not resistance per coil. > Regards, > Gary ..and seems to be correct, voltages on HV wires are 320 and 212.. Yes, disconnecting the transformer would be the fastest way but this one is not on top, it's half into the chassis with connections under the output tr. (into chassis too..) that has the common ground wire soldered on the core holder.. look here: http://www.junkradios.com/bench/bench.htm first pic: the black square on full left is the output tr.; the other 'orange' visible at about middle is the filter choke; between them the power transformer (a violet wire goes across it connecting the elect.cap.. wires are soldered under the output transformer. -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 325700 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "news.cci.net" Subject: Re: look what someone did to this E.H.Scott! Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:07:14 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1131579511.659402.313010@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Anyone know the original model... I am guessing a AM only Phantom Article: 325701 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "news.cci.net" Subject: Re: WTB:RCA 621ts,721ts,630ts Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 10:09:08 -0800 Message-ID: References: Send pixs and price to bob@cci.net Article: 325702 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: horiz hold issue - rca ctc-10 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:03:49 -0800 Message-ID: <1878-43739995-102@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: Good job, Frenchy. Those dual diodes were a common failure in both B&W and color sets. You'll no doubt run into it again if you mess with these old beasties. About 99% of 'em are common cathode, but once in a blue moon you'll see one that's series-connected, ie, cathode-to-anode. Bill(oc) Article: 325703 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: NG problems Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:26:15 -0500 TESTEY Article: 325704 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: NG problems Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 12:28:30 -0700 Message-ID: References: get your testey off my computer!!! randy "Ken" wrote in message news:D9Ncf.26357$2k5.20211@dukeread09... > TESTEY > Article: 325705 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" References: Subject: Re: NG problems Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:29:03 -0800 Yeah me too No messages for nearly two days Just started to get dribbles this morning Just my provider or a universal problem ???? -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "Ken" wrote in message news:D9Ncf.26357$2k5.20211@dukeread09... > TESTEY > Article: 325706 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: What's wrong Here??? Message-ID: <_fNcf.26358$2k5.19583@dukeread09> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:33:01 -0500 I'm always getting the 're' on a post, but never see the orig. msg. Why??? Also, had to change my email password, then couldn't receive ng messages or post any for an entire day. Just came back magically today. What happened??? Ken Article: 325707 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 15:41:24 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: What's wrong Here??? References: <_fNcf.26358$2k5.19583@dukeread09> Message-ID: <896cb$4373a265$4232bd91$31455@COQUI.NET> Ken wrote: > I'm always getting the 're' on a post, but never see the orig. msg. > Why??? Also, had to change my email password, then couldn't receive ng > messages or post any for an entire day. Just came back magically today. > What happened??? Ken > I note you and Caveat are connecting via Cox. Must have been a problem with them? -Bill Article: 325708 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" References: <_fNcf.26358$2k5.19583@dukeread09> Subject: Re: What's wrong Here??? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 11:41:55 -0800 In menus Under TOOLS, OPTIONS, SEND There is a checkmark for including message in reply As to NG messages -- I couldn't receive any from several NGs for about two days Just started to dribble in Problem with my provider (cox.net) or universal problem -- ???? -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "Ken" wrote in message news:_fNcf.26358$2k5.19583@dukeread09... > I'm always getting the 're' on a post, but never see the orig. msg. Why??? > Also, had to change my email password, then couldn't receive ng messages > or post any for an entire day. Just came back magically today. What > happened??? Ken > Article: 325709 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: Subject: Re: NG problems Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:45:25 GMT Reckon that's them. "Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:DbNcf.79$MN.58@fed1read07... > Yeah me too > No messages for nearly two days > Just started to get dribbles this morning > Just my provider or a universal problem ???? > > -- > CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! > > > > > > > "Ken" wrote in message > news:D9Ncf.26357$2k5.20211@dukeread09... > > TESTEY > > > > Article: 325710 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <_fNcf.26358$2k5.19583@dukeread09> Subject: Re: What's wrong Here??? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:48:50 GMT Don't feel bad, at least three people haven't offered to get you a new news provider yet. Mine sends the spam not the OP often also. "Ken" wrote in message news:_fNcf.26358$2k5.19583@dukeread09... > I'm always getting the 're' on a post, but never see the orig. msg. > Why??? Also, had to change my email password, then couldn't receive ng > messages or post any for an entire day. Just came back magically today. > What happened??? Ken > Article: 325711 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <1131651566.986372.65740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Pusbutton Panel Mount Power Switch for Receiver Message-ID: <7xNcf.1656$ZA3.349715@monger.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:51:31 GMT What model in specific are you referring to? "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1131651566.986372.65740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Slightly OT but I'm fixing an old (1980) stereo receiver with a pesky > power switch on the same shaft with the speaker selector knob. I'd > like to just pull off the power lines and run to a separate switch. I > need a small-as-possible pushbutton panel mount switch capable of > 120VAC, 130W or so, no pilot light needed, hopefully silver but I'd > live with black. I checked Mouser, all theirs seemed to be colored > and with pilot lights. This is a brushed aluminum front receiver, and > it would ruin the look. > > Or, advice on where to find a replacement of the original type. It's > rotary operated, and has points like old automotive ignition points. > Mounted in a rectangular plastic enclosure 1"x1.5". It arcs a lot and > the power comes off and on at random. DeOxit doesn't work anymore. > > Thanks! Back to radios now. > > Tox > Article: 325712 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Pusbutton Panel Mount Power Switch for Receiver Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:18:52 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1131651566.986372.65740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> imho this is the kind of thing you find at the junk store. randy "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1131651566.986372.65740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Slightly OT but I'm fixing an old (1980) stereo receiver with a pesky > power switch on the same shaft with the speaker selector knob. I'd > like to just pull off the power lines and run to a separate switch. I > need a small-as-possible pushbutton panel mount switch capable of > 120VAC, 130W or so, no pilot light needed, hopefully silver but I'd > live with black. I checked Mouser, all theirs seemed to be colored > and with pilot lights. This is a brushed aluminum front receiver, and > it would ruin the look. > > Or, advice on where to find a replacement of the original type. It's > rotary operated, and has points like old automotive ignition points. > Mounted in a rectangular plastic enclosure 1"x1.5". It arcs a lot and > the power comes off and on at random. DeOxit doesn't work anymore. > > Thanks! Back to radios now. > > Tox > Article: 325713 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: What's wrong Here??? References: <_fNcf.26358$2k5.19583@dukeread09> Message-ID: <4%Ocf.26373$2k5.10447@dukeread09> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 16:31:31 -0500 Are you talking IE? I'm using Netscape, don't have an options under tools. Ken Caveat Lector wrote: > In menus Under TOOLS, OPTIONS, SEND > > There is a checkmark for including message in reply > > As to NG messages -- I couldn't receive any from several NGs for about two > days > > Just started to dribble in > Problem with my provider (cox.net) or universal problem -- ???? > Article: 325714 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" References: <_fNcf.26358$2k5.19583@dukeread09> <4%Ocf.26373$2k5.10447@dukeread09> Subject: Re: What's wrong Here??? Message-ID: <5kPcf.92$MN.19@fed1read07> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 13:54:37 -0800 Oh gee I thought everyone used IE (;-) But for Netscape -- check preferences and there is a similar selection -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "Ken" wrote in message news:4%Ocf.26373$2k5.10447@dukeread09... > Are you talking IE? I'm using Netscape, don't have an options under tools. > Ken > > Caveat Lector wrote: > >> In menus Under TOOLS, OPTIONS, SEND >> >> There is a checkmark for including message in reply >> >> As to NG messages -- I couldn't receive any from several NGs for about >> two days >> >> Just started to dribble in >> Problem with my provider (cox.net) or universal problem -- ???? >> > Article: 325715 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: What's wrong Here??? References: <_fNcf.26358$2k5.19583@dukeread09> <4%Ocf.26373$2k5.10447@dukeread09> <5kPcf.92$MN.19@fed1read07> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:16:40 GMT Caveat Lector wrote: > Oh gee I thought everyone used IE (;-) > Mozilla's FireFox and Thunderbird are much better and ANYTHING I've ever used before. NO POP UPS, almost no spam, and they're FREE. Ron Article: 325716 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" References: <_fNcf.26358$2k5.19583@dukeread09> <4%Ocf.26373$2k5.10447@dukeread09> <5kPcf.92$MN.19@fed1read07> Subject: Re: What's wrong Here??? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 14:24:57 -0800 "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:cFPcf.4548$Ea3.1026252@twister.southeast.rr.com... > Caveat Lector wrote: >> Oh gee I thought everyone used IE >> > > Mozilla's FireFox and Thunderbird are much better > and ANYTHING I've ever used before. > NO POP UPS, almost no spam, and they're FREE. > > Ron Guess you didn't see my (;-) As many use IE because it came with the Windows package Didn't say it was the best My son uses Mozilla stuff and it is impressive Article: 325717 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <1131651566.986372.65740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Pusbutton Panel Mount Power Switch for Receiver Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:28:34 GMT Randy...this is a nice receiver for the period and worth looking at. "xrongor" wrote in message news:dl0dfm$cise$1@news3.infoave.net... > imho this is the kind of thing you find at the junk store. > > randy > > "toxcrusadr" wrote in message > news:1131651566.986372.65740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Slightly OT but I'm fixing an old (1980) stereo receiver with a pesky > > power switch on the same shaft with the speaker selector knob. I'd > > like to just pull off the power lines and run to a separate switch. I > > need a small-as-possible pushbutton panel mount switch capable of > > 120VAC, 130W or so, no pilot light needed, hopefully silver but I'd > > live with black. I checked Mouser, all theirs seemed to be colored > > and with pilot lights. This is a brushed aluminum front receiver, and > > it would ruin the look. > > > > Or, advice on where to find a replacement of the original type. It's > > rotary operated, and has points like old automotive ignition points. > > Mounted in a rectangular plastic enclosure 1"x1.5". It arcs a lot and > > the power comes off and on at random. DeOxit doesn't work anymore. > > > > Thanks! Back to radios now. > > > > Tox > > > > Article: 325718 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <_fNcf.26358$2k5.19583@dukeread09> <4%Ocf.26373$2k5.10447@dukeread09> <5kPcf.92$MN.19@fed1read07> Subject: Re: What's wrong Here??? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:34:22 GMT Browsers are tools that can only reflect the quality of your ISP. They are all useful in some fashion and all have bugs. BOTH NS and IE originated from MOSAIC and took different roots with different programming ideas. I can have all the opinions I like about either, but it's like having to know how to work on Chevy and Ford, Philco and Sony or speak Spanish and English. "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:cFPcf.4548$Ea3.1026252@twister.southeast.rr.com... > Caveat Lector wrote: > > Oh gee I thought everyone used IE (;-) > > > > Mozilla's FireFox and Thunderbird are much better > and ANYTHING I've ever used before. > NO POP UPS, almost no spam, and they're FREE. > > Ron Article: 325719 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <1131651566.986372.65740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131658466.757258.148210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131661780.153923.14820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: WTB: Pusbutton Panel Mount Power Switch for Receiver Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:36:57 GMT Keep searching and fix it. It will be worth the trouble. "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1131661780.153923.14820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Your description is pretty accurate. It does not mount right on the > vol. control tho, but stands off behind it. It is not held on by tabs > but is penetrated by two shafts (one on either side) for mounting and a > third down the center that actuates the cam, which is actually inside > the rectangular switch housing. > > I would be happy to go to a good electronics store if I *had* one. > Pop. 90,000, two Rat Shacks here, that's it. The real electronic store > disappeared 10 yrs ago. Nearest big cities are 2 hrs. away. I was > hoping for an online source or that someone had a junker, or I wanted > to find a nice pushbutton that I could mount on the face plate. > > Actually, jumping across the power switch and using an inline switch on > the power cord is a good temporary solution. I hadn't thought of that. > I would want to make a better fix eventually though. > > Thanks, > > Tox > Article: 325720 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:38:42 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: What's wrong Here??? References: <_fNcf.26358$2k5.19583@dukeread09> <4%Ocf.26373$2k5.10447@dukeread09> <5kPcf.92$MN.19@fed1read07> Message-ID: <684f3$4373cbf3$4232bd91$6458@COQUI.NET> Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > Caveat Lector wrote: > >> Oh gee I thought everyone used IE (;-) >> > > Mozilla's FireFox and Thunderbird are much better > and ANYTHING I've ever used before. > NO POP UPS, almost no spam, and they're FREE. > > Ron Whats a popup? Are they still doing that? :) -Bill (Moz user) Article: 325721 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <_fNcf.26358$2k5.19583@dukeread09> <4%Ocf.26373$2k5.10447@dukeread09> <5kPcf.92$MN.19@fed1read07> <684f3$4373cbf3$4232bd91$6458@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: What's wrong Here??? Message-ID: <55Qcf.1670$ZA3.351994@monger.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:46:25 GMT No, now they go under the main page. "Bill" wrote in message news:684f3$4373cbf3$4232bd91$6458@COQUI.NET... > Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > > > Caveat Lector wrote: > > > >> Oh gee I thought everyone used IE (;-) > >> > > > > Mozilla's FireFox and Thunderbird are much better > > and ANYTHING I've ever used before. > > NO POP UPS, almost no spam, and they're FREE. > > > > Ron > > Whats a popup? Are they still doing that? > :) > > -Bill (Moz user) Article: 325722 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: I have a ghost Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 17:21:54 -0600 "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message news:iNednYr1AYopT-7eRVn-qA@bright.net... >I heard once that ghosts often inhabit objects in the house where they > once lived and when the object is sold in a garage or estate sale, the > ghost goes with it. Well, I have a ghost and I think it came in with the > Victrola VV-X1 about five years ago. That's the one that had the Spanish > Navaja folding knife hidden in the space behind the record storage. It > had a 9" blade and was a deadly weapon. My grandaughter still thinks it > was a murder weapon or it wouldn't have been hidden > > I think my ghost is a woman. Who else could be so devilish wicked in > their attempts to bedevil me? The trouble started simply enough. At > first it was "where's my screwdriver? "where did my brush go? Things > like that. Then it got worse as more and more things got harder and > harder to find. I began to suspect someone or some 'thing' was behind > this. > > It all came to a head this morning when I spent 15 minutes looking for a > jar of paint I had mixed for the Liberty cathedral I'm working on. I > finally found it in a box of my sanding stuff........ and the box wasn't > where I usually keep it!!! Now I know I have a ghost, but I can't figure > out why she wants to hang around here and hide things from an old guy like > me. > > Later today I wanted to work on the eschuteon for this radio and I can't > find it. Looked everywhere. I had taped the brads to it and put it in an > envelope. Of course I know where I put it,.....but it isn't there. She got > me again!!! > > Am I the only one here with this problem or have some of you experienced > this after bringing an old radio into your home? > > If the situation doesn't improve soon, I may have to call in an exorcist. > > Still haven't found the eschuteon. > > Stewart > I can tell ya how to get rid of her Stewart. I've delt with this stuff before. -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 325723 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Crosley radio vs. Crosley mansion Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:49:31 GMT Actually, I have what appears to be good news. The "layout coordinator" happens to be a newer member of the train club and not of the museum. He didn't know that the club, and the museum director, had already approved all of this. So he wants me to help him set up on Sunday, the 27th -- but I'm DJ at a car show that day, so further complications. Then again, it's just a matter of deciding where to plop a table radio, so it shouldn't be all that difficult. Setting up the radio and transmitter takes all of five minutes. Once we actually do this, I'll have to post a photo. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:YFecf.1866$Id6.1759@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... > As I've mentioned in the past, I've been trying to put a radio display in > the Crosley mansion for the holiday season. > > The Powel Crosley winter home, "Seagate", has been somewhat restored. > However instead of being furnished and open to tourists, the home is owned > by Manatee County; it is available for wedding receptions in case you want > to pay an astronomical figure to get married in an empty house. Thus it's > closed up most of the year. > > In spite of this, one week each year the home actually has a shining > moment -- it is open to the public for its "Festival of Trees." Area > businesses sponsor Christmas trees, and the home is decorated with trees > in each room. In addition there is a Lionel train display upstairs, and > Crosley cars from area cruisers are displayed out back. Upstairs there is > also a display of Crosley radios -- at least I think they're Crosleys, as > their condition is so far gone that many are unrecognizable! I would be > embarrassed to put such trash on display for the public to pay to see. > > So I had a bright idea: why not offer to bring some Crosley radios, put > one in each room, and with the help of an AMT-3000 and a CD player, > broadcast some Christmas music and old time radio? I personally thought > this would be a neat idea -- maybe I'm crazy and need to be admitted in an > institution, because it seems nobody else agrees with me, but I happen to > think this would be a neat idea. > > After talking about it via personal contact, phone calls, and e-mails for > a period of three years, last summer I finally got a glimmer of light. > Some director I had yet to talk to, thought it was a great idea -- but > explained that there's a security problem there, and that he wants the > radios only to be displayed in the same room as the trains because this is > the one room that can be secured. Hmm . . . must be bad luck to ger > married in THAT room! > > So I offered to put a few small radios in the room with the trains. I > know what you're thinking; I tried putting a radio next to the trains and > there is no static. But of course we now have the problem of space. > There must be room for a certain number of people to be in the room at a > given time. I have tried endlessly to determine where the trains will be, > and where even one radio could be placed in the room, but cannot get a > response. Every time I ask, I'm told to "ask someone else." As it is > now, I'm frustrated to the point of giving up -- after all, I'm the one > who was willing to provide all of this to them for free. > > It is indeed getting to be a joke -- just how hard is it to plop a radio > in a house, particularly when that radio is the reason for the house being > there in the first place? > > So . . . > > Realizing that I'm dealing with government, I've taken the initiative to > provide answers to upcoming questions before they are asked. Here's some > further information: > > Figuring that placing a radio on government property would require an > environmental study, I've researched this and have determined this radio > should not present a hazard. > > The calculated increase in attendance would require US 41 to be widened to > multiple lanes, with a center turn lane. A sign should be placed at the > entrance so motorists will know when and where to turn. US 41 indeed has > the proper number of lanes and a sign has already been provided. > > As the radio requires electrical power, wiring in the mansion must be > properly inspected, and be upgraded to standards which allow a current > draw of 35 watts RMS. I have not physically inspected this, but a failure > to meet code would require the place to be shut down, and all wedding > receptions would have to be cancelled and money refunded -- so inspection > has passed. > > There is concern that the possibility of ozone emission from a corroded > tube socket might create an air quality issue that could increase the > bloom of red tide. However it has been determined that sea breezes > generally move eastward, and the natural odor of the red tide would > obscure any effects the ozone emission might have on humans or animals. > > As the display may continue during evening hours, the radio's dial lamp > has been removed so as not to disrupt the hatching of nearby sea turtles. > (But what about the Christmas lights?) > > Being on government property, a concern has been raised that this radio > may have at one time been tuned to a religious station, creating a > conflict of separation of church and state. However this particular radio > has a shortwave band, which allows it to receive international signals > which provide religious and cultural diversity. > > With its wood cabinet, it is obvious that trees have been destroyed for > the purpose of building this line of radios, contributing to the > greenhouse effect and global warming. But bear in mind that this radio > was built in 1941, long before any such measurements or calculations have > been made. > > Yes, the house has been constructed soundly in such a way as to provide > adequate support for this 8 pound radio. It has a built-in antenna, and > the superhetrodyne oscillator has met all FCC requirements as of the date > of manufacture, and probably today's standards as well. > > So NOW what do they need to know? > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > Article: 325724 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:52:55 GMT I opened up that last box -- it's a 56 T-Bird. Today I received no less than five calls, from people telling me they have radios on the way. Three of them are T-Birds; a 61, a 64 and a 65.. I guess this is the month for T-Birds. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:Zxycf.1597$c_1.1186@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Oh boy, where do I start? > > Lessee, today I finished up a radio from a 56 T-Bird, and another from a > 65 T-Bird, both conversions. Also on the bench is a 67 Dodge Coronet, > stripped and ready to convert, and a 56 Lincoln Mark II, owned by a > celebrity, in the process. Waiting in the wings are a 64 T-Bird, 70 El > Camino, 69 AMX, 50 Studebaker, and another unit that I have yet to open > the box. > > For restoration I've got a real humdinger. This radio was in a 55 T-Bird, > but it is not a T-Bird radio. Unlike the typical Ford, there is no model > number; however it is definitely a Ford, is definitely American as opposed > to Canadian or foreign, and is definitely a Sylvania. It appears to be > either a 53 or 54 Ford deluxe 8-tube radio -- Sams has schematics for > both, but side by side I have yet to see a difference between the two. I > also know that for whatever reason, these radios don't have model numbers > stamped on them. > > So, what's the problem? For starters, some of the tubes were missing, > some were in the wrong sockets, and some were incorrect for the radio. I > tested the tubes that were in there and only one was good -- others were > totally dud, shorted, or otherwise. After putting the tubes in the right > sockets I applied power (via external supply) and it worked, but poorly. > Upon scrutiny I found that someone has rewired parts of the audio amp. > Some of it made no sense whatsoever, for example there was a 100 ohm > resistor that went from ground to ground. As I continued to trace out > wiring I found a BUNCH of mistakes, and what's worse, this radio has been > recapped (very sloppy job) with incorrect capacitors! > > So here I go a-rewiring. But there's more! Some of the miswiring seems > to have come from the factory! It seems V4 and V5 have been reversed for > some reason, and there are other inconsistencies. I suppose possibly this > isn't a 53 or 54 Ford radio, but if not, what? The 52 is entirely > different, and the 55 is round. Mercury and Lincoln had radios with > entirely different trim. Canadian versions have flared pushbuttons and > say "F. M. Co" instead of FoMoCo. So I have a radio that's somewhat > different from the schematic for a 53/54, but I cannot identify it. I > called the dealer and let them know this radio could get very expensive -- > they're willing to pay it. So the only choice is to continue rewiring the > entire audio section according to Sams, and take it from there. Such > excitement! > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > "Ken G." wrote in message > news:11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net... >> Its been a while sence we did this . Those of you who are into radios .. >> whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . >> > > Article: 325725 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: <1131338472.027874.6130@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131404103.306176.229810@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5V8cf.52486$Pe2.982577@twister2.libero.it> <43713fa0$0$82628$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> Subject: Re: Help: Frying power transformer Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:29:27 -0000 Message-ID: <4373e708$0$63081$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net> "GBrown" wrote in message news:G9mdnSMLnbJl7u_enZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@gwi.net... > > > "Martin Crossley" wrote in message > news:43713fa0$0$82628$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net... >> >> >> "Daniele" wrote in message >> news:5V8cf.52486$Pe2.982577@twister2.libero.it... >> > >> > Jim Mueller wrote: >> > >> >> A short between windings (any of them) or a short from a winding to >> >> the core can be found with an ohmmeter. Shorted turns cannot. >> >> Occasionally you may run into a transformer that has windings >> >> internally connected or has a winding with more than one tap. These >> >> can be confusing; a schematic is a big help at this point. >> > >> > Now i suppose the trouble is in the HV winding. >> > It's 317 ohm in one side and 212 in the other, >> > a side seems to be shorted.. >> > >> > -- >> > >> > Daniele ^___^ >> > http://www.tuberadio.it >> > >> > >> > >> Perhaps, perhaps not... >> since the one half is wound over the other, it has higher resistance for > the >> same No. of turns, so it is given some extra turns to compensate for the > IR >> loss (extra voltage sag) at full load to match the other, increasing the >> resistance yet more.. >> Martin. >> > Martin, center tap is just that, a center tap. there is no extra turns on > one side or the other of center tap. 105 ohms difference is wayyyyyyy to > much. There is a problem with that much difference. Voltages are figured > by > VPT (volts per turn), not resistance per coil. > Regards, > Gary Gary, I stand corrected by someone who actually winds transformers, and a little wiser, and apologise, to Daniele in particular, for giving misleading "information," but I do understand that there are various methods of compensating for IR losses and leakage inductance, some split between primary and secondaries, others just adding extra secondary turns, and that it's more complex than just V/t and the resistance of the coil must have some effect. I have recently bought a Chinese manual coil winding machine and would be very grateful for any good links on mains transformer design using currently available steel grades of laminations and, preferably, metric wire, and with and without modern split-bobbin formers, as my only 3 books covering this subject have poorly explained designs in old (swg) wire, imperial units and 1930s grades of steel, bits of waxed paper and cardboard, and obvious errors including neglecting form factor for bi-phase( full wave) rectification. While I've got a guru's attention, could you tell me about fairly rusty faulty transformers- whether the rust on the laminations is giving excessive eddy curents, or it's more likely to have developed a short in a winding? Thanks & 73, Martin. Article: 325726 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> <11n5e1r68ms9k22@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:55:49 GMT My Zenith Porthole is in the bench right now, getting to a couple things of my own before I do the stuff for sale. The sound died on it so I removed the remaining OE caps that were left in there in 1990 as well as a mod I made to improve vertical centering in 1997. The linearity on those G sets is a PITA to get right, but Ive got it close. Got it all worked out and set up properly now! Now to pluck a couple things from the Basement :-) -- Keith Keith Park Top Notch Restorations topnotch@nycap.rr.com 71 Squareback 65 Notchback "El BajaRojo" 65 Squareback "Eggcrate" 87 Golf "Winterat" 93 Rx7 "Redstur" "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11n5e1r68ms9k22@corp.supernews.com... > I have a early model Philco 116 tombstone (shouldered), Emerson DS365, > and Arce (French) model 43 tombstone that will all have cabinet and > chassis redone by Turkey Day. Also I have redone the top of my > Silvertone 4586 console, it and my Scott Phantom in a Braemar will form > the projects to begin 2006. > > John H. > Article: 325727 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: norml Subject: Re: Victor RE57 Message-ID: <20r7n1l5fqoiueene5t7lukhupjihoetil@4ax.com> References: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 00:57:11 GMT Well, Alan, since you seem to have the info, how about the stats on my RE 73? Norm Lehfeldt Alan Douglas wrotf: >Hi, > >>Anyone know how many Victor RE 57s were sold, and what the >>price was in 1930? > > 28,601. It listed for $285. > >Alan Article: 325728 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Re: I have a ghost Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:00:33 -0500 Message-ID: References: On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:07:35 -0500, Stewart Schooley wrote: >I heard once that ghosts often inhabit objects in the house where they >once lived and when the object is sold in a garage or estate sale, the >ghost goes with it. Well, I have a ghost and I think it came in with the >Victrola VV-X1 about five years ago. That's the one that had the Spanish >Navaja folding knife hidden in the space behind the record storage. It >had a 9" blade and was a deadly weapon. My grandaughter still thinks it >was a murder weapon or it wouldn't have been hidden > >I think my ghost is a woman. Who else could be so devilish wicked in >their attempts to bedevil me? The trouble started simply enough. At >first it was "where's my screwdriver? "where did my brush go? Things >like that. Then it got worse as more and more things got harder and >harder to find. I began to suspect someone or some 'thing' was behind this. > >It all came to a head this morning when I spent 15 minutes looking for a >jar of paint I had mixed for the Liberty cathedral I'm working on. I >finally found it in a box of my sanding stuff........ and the box wasn't >where I usually keep it!!! Now I know I have a ghost, but I can't figure >out why she wants to hang around here and hide things from an old guy >like me. > >Later today I wanted to work on the eschuteon for this radio and I can't >find it. Looked everywhere. I had taped the brads to it and put it in an >envelope. Of course I know where I put it,.....but it isn't there. She >got me again!!! > >Am I the only one here with this problem or have some of you experienced >this after bringing an old radio into your home? > >If the situation doesn't improve soon, I may have to call in an exorcist. > >Still haven't found the eschuteon. Yup, I have one too, maybe more. I think they multiply because I find that as time goes by I cannot find more things. It is at the point now where there has to be more than one ghost moving stuff on me. They seem to have some psychological powers also. Lots of times I will go into a room to get something and then cannot recall what I was looking for. Those ghosts are tricky. I wonder how they do that. I think it is a family ghost because my father is affected by it too. He says the days are too short and he cannot get anything done because he spends hours looking for his glasses. John Article: 325729 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Re: OT? This Must Use Vacuum Tubes Somehow References: <3LmdnXo2zb3O9u7eRVn-uA@qx.net> <1131641818.821901.164450@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131643387.125848.230090@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 01:22:55 GMT TopCat wrote: > Any 2 digit number can be written as i + 10j where i is the low digit > and j is the high digit. Adding the two digits together and subtracting > from the original number gives (i + 10j) - (i+j) which reduces to 9j. > So the result is always a multiple of 9. So, the "oracle" just makes Awwww.... don't spoil it. It's much more fun to just say "Magic!" Article: 325730 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" Subject: Who's going to Kalamazoo this Saturday? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 01:26:36 GMT The MARC Fall Meet at the fairgrounds. I'll be there early with the donuts. Article: 325731 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <20r7n1l5fqoiueene5t7lukhupjihoetil@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Victor RE57 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:43:07 -0800 "norml" wrote in message news:20r7n1l5fqoiueene5t7lukhupjihoetil@4ax.com... > Well, Alan, since you seem to have the info, how about the stats on my > RE 73? > > Norm Lehfeldt > > Alan Douglas wrotf: > > >Hi, > > > >>Anyone know how many Victor RE 57s were sold, and what the > >>price was in 1930? > > > > 28,601. It listed for $285. > > > >Alan Wow! Thanks Alan, and Norm for replying. Alan's response to my question never showed up here, and with no apparent response I was wondering what I'd said... Now I think about it, there seem to be a lot of missing posts here. Time to give my ISP a hot 6V6 on the right ear! Cheers, Nelson Article: 325732 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: I have a ghost Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:56:55 -0700 Message-ID: <767-4373FA67-383@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: Maybe ? Back when i was 24 years old and married we bought a small house I had a desk in one room where i did some repair work . I am a neet freak and had dividers in the top drawers where i kept often used items including some different types of roles of tape in one drawer where it always was . I kept loosing roles of tape . I looked in the garage but all i found were the same roles i kept out there . The wife ( at the time ) said she never gets into that desk . The roles of tape one at a time vanished and returned several times . Next was a heavy glass blender jar that jumped up out of the blender motor base up over roles of paper towels and plastic bowles without disturbing anything out of a closet on CARPET and broke when we were gone one day . Other very bad things happened in that place the longer we lived there the worse they got till the marrage ended in that house . Sence then all the places i have lived never had any such things happen Article: 325733 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: Subject: Re: I have a ghost Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:07:32 -0500 Stewart, there is, perhaps, another reason. Is it possible that you are suffering from the early stages of CRS? regards, Frank Article: 325734 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: Subject: Re: I have a ghost Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 02:08:24 GMT My ghosts are living. I am one of them. Stop and see if you are also. "John Bachman" wrote in message news:o3r7n1hliqjjupdphd14a9gvjvvkkv1iog@4ax.com... > On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:07:35 -0500, Stewart Schooley > wrote: > > >I heard once that ghosts often inhabit objects in the house where they > >once lived and when the object is sold in a garage or estate sale, the > >ghost goes with it. Well, I have a ghost and I think it came in with the > >Victrola VV-X1 about five years ago. That's the one that had the Spanish > >Navaja folding knife hidden in the space behind the record storage. It > >had a 9" blade and was a deadly weapon. My grandaughter still thinks it > >was a murder weapon or it wouldn't have been hidden > > > >I think my ghost is a woman. Who else could be so devilish wicked in > >their attempts to bedevil me? The trouble started simply enough. At > >first it was "where's my screwdriver? "where did my brush go? Things > >like that. Then it got worse as more and more things got harder and > >harder to find. I began to suspect someone or some 'thing' was behind this. > > > >It all came to a head this morning when I spent 15 minutes looking for a > >jar of paint I had mixed for the Liberty cathedral I'm working on. I > >finally found it in a box of my sanding stuff........ and the box wasn't > >where I usually keep it!!! Now I know I have a ghost, but I can't figure > >out why she wants to hang around here and hide things from an old guy > >like me. > > > >Later today I wanted to work on the eschuteon for this radio and I can't > >find it. Looked everywhere. I had taped the brads to it and put it in an > >envelope. Of course I know where I put it,.....but it isn't there. She > >got me again!!! > > > >Am I the only one here with this problem or have some of you experienced > >this after bringing an old radio into your home? > > > >If the situation doesn't improve soon, I may have to call in an exorcist. > > > >Still haven't found the eschuteon. > > Yup, I have one too, maybe more. I think they multiply because I find > that as time goes by I cannot find more things. It is at the point > now where there has to be more than one ghost moving stuff on me. > > They seem to have some psychological powers also. Lots of times I > will go into a room to get something and then cannot recall what I was > looking for. Those ghosts are tricky. I wonder how they do that. > > I think it is a family ghost because my father is affected by it too. > He says the days are too short and he cannot get anything done because > he spends hours looking for his glasses. > > John Article: 325735 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: Subject: Re: a gajillion transformers... not mine Message-ID: <26Tcf.18393$1L3.842977@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:12:11 -0500 "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:qKOdnWP89LGFd-_enZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com... > just saw this seller has a pile of trannys... here is a link to one, you > click on "sellers other auctions" and see them all... must be a hundred or > more, mostly Hammond, some Stancor, etc. > http://cgi.ebay.com/PAIR-OF-VERY-OLD-RADIO-TRANSFORMERS-LOT-1227_W0QQitemZ5827971159QQcategoryZ67815QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > have fun looking... > > Mark Oppat Just bought a bunch of old catalogues and brochures from this seller, very smooth sale. The prize piece is the "Eaton's Radio 1936-37" pamphlet showing all the line-up of Vikings, Minerva and the non house-brand radios they carried. Quite an impressive line-up! And interesting to see what they sold for back then... regards, Frank Article: 325736 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4374042D.297160BF@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: OT? This Must Use Vacuum Tubes Somehow References: <3LmdnXo2zb3O9u7eRVn-uA@qx.net> <1131641818.821901.164450@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131643387.125848.230090@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 21:38:38 -0500 This is freaking me out man.... Sal Brisindi David Stinson wrote: > TopCat wrote: > > Any 2 digit number can be written as i + 10j where i is the low digit > > and j is the high digit. Adding the two digits together and subtracting > > from the original number gives (i + 10j) - (i+j) which reduces to 9j. > > So the result is always a multiple of 9. So, the "oracle" just makes > > Awwww.... don't spoil it. > It's much more fun to just say "Magic!" Article: 325737 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Crosley radio vs. Crosley mansion Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 20:10:23 -0700 Message-ID: References: if they cant get it together enough to 'approve' your being there, i doubt they would be effective enough to remove you should you happen to just show up... randy Article: 325738 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg) Subject: Re: Zenith 8-S-463 Dial Cord ??? Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 19:34:49 -0800 Message-ID: <805-43741159-249@storefull-3152.bay.webtv.net> References: If I remember corectly it uses a belt between the tuning shaft and idler. Article: 325739 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: I have a ghost Message-ID: <8IUcf.332$c27.130@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 04:01:08 GMT In my house, pencils and pens often disappear. At times the dining room tablecloth has been found laying on the floor, with salt and pepper shakers wrapped up in it. At times I hear strange howling noises in the night, once in awhile accompanied by a loud crash. The next morning I'll find knick-knacks off the shelves and all over the floor. When cleaning the house I might move the sofa -- and there are all the pens and pencils that had previously disappeared. Even last night -- I had a terrible time sleeping for all the noise. They were in rare form. Screaming, howling, banging on the bedroom door, they didn't stop until I opened the bedroom door and let them in. Yes, I have a dog and three cats . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message news:iNednYr1AYopT-7eRVn-qA@bright.net... >I heard once that ghosts often inhabit objects in the house where they > once lived and when the object is sold in a garage or estate sale, the > ghost goes with it. Well, I have a ghost and I think it came in with the > Victrola VV-X1 about five years ago. That's the one that had the Spanish > Navaja folding knife hidden in the space behind the record storage. It > had a 9" blade and was a deadly weapon. My grandaughter still thinks it > was a murder weapon or it wouldn't have been hidden > > I think my ghost is a woman. Who else could be so devilish wicked in > their attempts to bedevil me? The trouble started simply enough. At > first it was "where's my screwdriver? "where did my brush go? Things > like that. Then it got worse as more and more things got harder and > harder to find. I began to suspect someone or some 'thing' was behind > this. > > It all came to a head this morning when I spent 15 minutes looking for a > jar of paint I had mixed for the Liberty cathedral I'm working on. I > finally found it in a box of my sanding stuff........ and the box wasn't > where I usually keep it!!! Now I know I have a ghost, but I can't figure > out why she wants to hang around here and hide things from an old guy like > me. > > Later today I wanted to work on the eschuteon for this radio and I can't > find it. Looked everywhere. I had taped the brads to it and put it in an > envelope. Of course I know where I put it,.....but it isn't there. She got > me again!!! > > Am I the only one here with this problem or have some of you experienced > this after bringing an old radio into your home? > > If the situation doesn't improve soon, I may have to call in an exorcist. > > Still haven't found the eschuteon. > > Stewart > > > Article: 325740 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <1131651566.986372.65740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131658466.757258.148210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131661780.153923.14820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131681336.315604.155510@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: WTB: Pusbutton Panel Mount Power Switch for Receiver Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 04:09:26 GMT wrote in message news:1131681336.315604.155510@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > toxcrusadr wrote: > > Your description is pretty accurate. It does not mount right on the > > vol. control tho, but stands off behind it. It is not held on by tabs > > but is penetrated by two shafts (one on either side) for mounting and a > > third down the center that actuates the cam, which is actually inside > > the rectangular switch housing. > > > > I would be happy to go to a good electronics store if I *had* one. > > Pop. 90,000, two Rat Shacks here, that's it. The real electronic store > > disappeared 10 yrs ago. Nearest big cities are 2 hrs. away. I was > > hoping for an online source or that someone had a junker, or I wanted > > to find a nice pushbutton that I could mount on the face plate. > > > > Actually, jumping across the power switch and using an inline switch on > > the power cord is a good temporary solution. I hadn't thought of that. > > I would want to make a better fix eventually though. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Tox > > Alps strikes again! Sounds like you've described what was a typical > Kenwood consumer stereo equipment switch too, rectangular plastic box > w/'contact points' inside etc; FWIW fairly often when opening one up > for repair (+10 years ago when they commonly flowed across my bench), > I'd find that a second set of contacts existed that wasn't used (so I'd > sometimes get to rewire to the 'built in spare set'.) > > FWIW2 failure was typically explained by customer running 500w+ load > off of the switched AC outlets on back... > > If you don't have the spare set, at least I expect you'll see where a > second set *could* be slipped in, so you'll know I'm not completely FOS > ;-) > > AFA Xref, i.e. try the Kenwood KR-3090 (happens to be one of our > current bench test receivers with that sort of switch; long ago failed > and currently jumpered always on ;-) > > -Robert > QTS > http://www.Braught.com > real email addy : Robert@NoSpamBraught.com (remove NoSpam to reply : > Duh!) I have a Sony with a flip switch that in ON in OFF position and verse vice-a, and it sparks too. That one is getting good care as it's the SQD-2020 SQ decoder/4-channel preamp and would be handy in a surround system. Article: 325741 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: odd variable capacitor ? References: From: haynes@alumni.uark.edu (Jim Haynes) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 04:33:54 GMT In article , Henry Kolesnik wrote: > >Jim >Who made your TRF with this cap and are the dials calibrated, if so f or >wavelength? >tnx Well, it's a mystery. There is no manufacturer's name on it anywhere. And all the parts are from various well-known parts vendors (except no labels on the coils). There are several theories: Might be a home-built set - if so, it's incredibly well done, including an engraved front panel Might be built from a kit - but then you'd think the kit manufacturer would have put a name on it somewhere. Might be a factory-built set for some department-store chain that was to attach their own brand label, tho there is no evidence that one ever was attached. Might be a factory-built set and the maker is deliberately non-identified to avoid paying royalties on the Neutrodyne patents. Which could also apply to a kit. I read some early superhets were sold as kits to get around paying patent royalties. Someone suggested a fly-by-night manufacturer, who would come into a village with a wagon load of receivers, and secretly bring another wagon with a transmitter. The transmitter would assure they had a good signal while they were selling the receivers; and once they were all sold they could move on. However this receiver is certainly not shoddily constructed. Any other theories? -- jhhaynes at earthlink dot net Article: 325742 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: odd variable capacitor ? References: From: haynes@alumni.uark.edu (Jim Haynes) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 04:34:44 GMT In article , Henry Kolesnik wrote: >Jim >Who made your TRF with this cap and are the dials calibrated, if so f or >wavelength? >tnx The dials are not calibrated in frequency or wavelength. They look like National vernier dials, calibrated 0-100. -- jhhaynes at earthlink dot net Article: 325743 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Radiola II Find Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 22:54:40 -0700 Message-ID: Today my 85 year old buddy called and said he was on the way over for a visit. Just about the time I was starting to get worried about him not showing up, he sticks his head in the door of my shop and tells me to come and look at what he found in the dumpster behind one of the second hand stores on his way over. It was a Radiola II !!!!! I was totally impressed !! Other than missing the front lid, it's in pretty darn good shape too. I thought it was a great find for my friend. It sure made his day...and mine too...for him. Ben Article: 325744 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: I have a ghost Date: Thu, 10 Nov 2005 23:43:02 -0700 Message-ID: References: just be happy your ghost isnt patrick swazey trying to kiss you and play pottery wheel.... randy Article: 325745 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Portable record player amplifier question Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:52:31 +0900 Message-ID: References: <2676-43720767-3@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> <1131687288.992887.144460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131696063.550224.191320@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Jeff, WB8NHV" wrote in message news:1131696063.550224.191320@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Some older tube-type phonographs used a one-tube amplifier, the one > tube being a 117Z3--the tube was designed to operate directly from the > AC line. Perhaps your memory is faulty.. I know mine gets that way from time to time. A 117Z3 is a rectifier, so wouldn't do much as an amplifier.. I have seen phono setups as described using a 35L6 or 35C5.. using the phono motor as the filament dropping device (a 70-75 volt two-pole synchronous motor). The phono cartridge was a very high output crystal cartridge that could directly feed the control grid of the power amp tube.. Article: 325746 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Simon" Subject: Re: old valve textbook Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:47:09 -0000 Message-ID: <11n8q4v48k5mk8b@corp.supernews.com> References: <11n6rv654gmg005@corp.supernews.com> I got a reply on rec.audio.tube, and thought some of you might be interested: " Looks to be Radiotron Designer's Handbook, 3rd Edition, P. Langford Smith, 1941,... or RDH3 for short. You can check more pages vs an online PDF of it from here: http://www.pmillett.com/tecnical_books_online.htm Specifically http://www.pmillett.com/Books/RDH3.pdf " Article: 325747 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 07:30:55 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Portable record player amplifier question References: <2676-43720767-3@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> <1131687288.992887.144460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131696063.550224.191320@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Brenda Ann wrote: > "Jeff, WB8NHV" wrote in message > news:1131696063.550224.191320@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >>Some older tube-type phonographs used a one-tube amplifier, the one >>tube being a 117Z3--the tube was designed to operate directly from the >>AC line. > > > Perhaps your memory is faulty.. I know mine gets that way from time to time. > > A 117Z3 is a rectifier, so wouldn't do much as an amplifier.. I suspect the tube being mentioned might be the 117L7/M7/N7 which is a crazy thing with rectifier and audio amp in the same envelope. This is the type of application they were made for. -Bill Article: 325748 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Portable record player amplifier question Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:51:04 +0900 Message-ID: References: <2676-43720767-3@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> <1131687288.992887.144460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131696063.550224.191320@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Bill" wrote in message news:ce969$437480ef$4232bd28$9892@COQUI.NET... > Brenda Ann wrote: >> "Jeff, WB8NHV" wrote in message >> news:1131696063.550224.191320@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> >>>Some older tube-type phonographs used a one-tube amplifier, the one >>>tube being a 117Z3--the tube was designed to operate directly from the >>>AC line. >> >> >> Perhaps your memory is faulty.. I know mine gets that way from time to >> time. >> >> A 117Z3 is a rectifier, so wouldn't do much as an amplifier.. > > I suspect the tube being mentioned might be the 117L7/M7/N7 which is a > crazy thing with rectifier and audio amp in the same envelope. This is > the type of application they were made for. > > -Bill Most likely, but those didn't use the motor for filament dropping. The ones as I mentioned normally used small selenium rectifiers, and probably came out shortly after the ones you refer to. Article: 325749 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Henry Kolesnik" References: Subject: Re: odd variable capacitor ? Message-ID: <7n0df.15196$q%.10041@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 12:44:51 GMT I never heard of the transmitter scam before and I would think that people would have wanted to hear their favorite 2 or 3 stations. I wonder how they did the scam? Hank "Jim Haynes" wrote in message news:SaVcf.7676$AS6.7074@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > In article , > Henry Kolesnik wrote: >> >>Jim >>Who made your TRF with this cap and are the dials calibrated, if so f or >>wavelength? >>tnx > > Well, it's a mystery. There is no manufacturer's name on it anywhere. > And > all the parts are from various well-known parts vendors (except no labels > on the coils). There are several theories: > Might be a home-built set - if so, it's incredibly well done, including > an engraved front panel > Might be built from a kit - but then you'd think the kit manufacturer > would have put a name on it somewhere. > Might be a factory-built set for some department-store chain that was > to attach their own brand label, tho there is no evidence that one > ever was attached. > Might be a factory-built set and the maker is deliberately > non-identified > to avoid paying royalties on the Neutrodyne patents. Which could > also > apply to a kit. I read some early superhets were sold as kits to get > around paying patent royalties. > Someone suggested a fly-by-night manufacturer, who would come into a > village with a wagon load of receivers, and secretly bring another > wagon with a transmitter. The transmitter would assure they had a > good signal while they were selling the receivers; and once they were > all sold they could move on. However this receiver is certainly not > shoddily constructed. > > Any other theories? > -- > > jhhaynes at earthlink dot net > Article: 325750 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Who's going to Kalamazoo this Saturday? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:16:06 GMT In article , murrellr-dummy@ameritech.net says... > > >The MARC Fall Meet at the fairgrounds. I'll be there early with the donuts. > > Well don't faint... Jean and I are actually going to make it to this one.. John k9uwa Article: 325751 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith 8-S-463 Dial Cord ??? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 13:18:31 GMT In article , moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... > > >yep, its a belt. I like to use .140 or so O ring material. Cut to length >around the path, minus 1/4" for snug. Glue it (while looped around the >tuning shaft only) with super glue, then install when the glue sets. >Originally they used a fabric flat belt. I like mine better. > >Mark Oppat > Yup ... even if you find some of the New Old Stock flat belts.. in 6 months they will come apart and you will be doing it again... Rubber O Ring material works and stays put... John k9uwa Article: 325752 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:28:02 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Portable record player amplifier question References: <2676-43720767-3@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> <1131687288.992887.144460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131696063.550224.191320@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Brenda Ann wrote: > > Most likely, but those didn't use the motor for filament dropping. > Good point. -Bill Article: 325753 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Charlie Martin" References: <1131565130.898162.134330@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11n5e9gp3ds6ia6@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: SC-140K looks original but is it? Message-ID: <_s1df.8464$GT3.2148@fe02.lga> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:59:14 -0500 Hi neighbor, I be the owner of that which frightens you. I admit it may not win any design awards, but I do believe that odd finish is original. Although belief in this case can't be misconstrued as faith. All I can say is if it is not to anyone's liking, they would certainly be free to remove said finish. As for another poster calling the radio "clunky," that escapes me. I thought the cabinet design of this model quite nice. But beauty...eye of beholder...all that stuff. Charlie (where there's snow this morning) "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11n5e9gp3ds6ia6@corp.supernews.com... > Right in my backyard, love Strombergs, but THAT frightens me..... > > > John H. > Article: 325754 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: DIAL COVERS, GLASS AND PLASTIC. Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 08:46:02 -0600 Message-ID: <767-4374AEAA-461@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <807-4372251A-4@storefull-3152.bay.webtv.net> I SHOULD MENTION HERE THAT I AM UNABLE TO DO SOME KINDS OF WORK. HOPEFULLY I WILL RECOVER SUFFICIENTLY TO DO THESE THINGS WITHIN A RELATEIVELY SHORT TIME. IN THE MEAN TIME I AM LEAVING THOSE ITEMS ON MY WEBSITE IN HOPES IT WILL NOT BE TOO LONG. PLEASE INQUIRE. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 325755 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Portable record player amplifier question Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 06:57:38 -0800 Message-ID: <25136-4374B162-221@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> References: <1131696063.550224.191320@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> >Some older tube-type phonographs used >a one-tube amplifier, the one tube being >a 117Z3--the tube was designed to >operate directly from the AC line. The >tube filament was wired in series with >the phono motor, which was usually a >90-volt (more or less) component. The OP stated that the unit has speakers (plural) that swing out. That would pretty well mark it as stereo. If it's tube type, it'd have to use at least two power tubes. I've never seen one with the heaters in series with the motor, although there might've been such. Usually the motor was tapped as an autotransformer to give the required heater voltage. Bill(oc) Article: 325756 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Oooh, a death ray... References: <1131713035.149522.278960@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131720793.516192.97230@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:32:18 -0500 That's what he uses to bond the tattoo to the skin. No more needle. Ken Peter Wieck wrote: > Note the Tattoo art in the background... > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 325757 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: norml Subject: Re: Portable record player amplifier question Message-ID: References: <1131696063.550224.191320@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <25136-4374B162-221@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:59:07 GMT 117Z3 is a half-wave rectifier--mostly used in 3-way portables. One tube phonos usually used something like a 25L6 with the heater in series with the motor field and a selenium rectifier. Norm Lehfeldt oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) wrotf: > >>Some older tube-type phonographs used >>a one-tube amplifier, the one tube being >>a 117Z3--the tube was designed to >>operate directly from the AC line. The >>tube filament was wired in series with >>the phono motor, which was usually a >>90-volt (more or less) component. > >The OP stated that the unit has speakers (plural) that swing out. That >would pretty well mark it as stereo. If it's tube type, it'd have to use >at least two power tubes. > I've never seen one with the heaters in series with the >motor, although there might've been such. Usually the motor was tapped >as an autotransformer to give the required heater voltage. > Bill(oc) Article: 325758 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: DIAL COVERS, GLASS AND PLASTIC. Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 07:54:03 -0800 Message-ID: <25137-4374BE9B-44@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> References: <767-4374AEAA-461@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Howdy Bill Best wishes for a SPEEEEDY recovery. Bill(oc) Article: 325759 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Motorola history site References: <1131554247.099570.78690@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:44:34 GMT John Byrns wrote: > Who is Motorola litigating against that has you all hot and bothered? They have a nasty history of suing individuals that mistakenly bid against them. Typically the claim is that a repaired/used radio is "counterfeit" by some stretch of the imagination. The problem is that when a Fortune 100 Company teams up with a law firm with over 350 lawyers, you lose. Most individuals just don't have the determination or resources to fight that. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325760 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:45:23 -0700 Message-ID: <767-4374CAA3-469@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: Mark i dont see how you do it and ever get even half of it done . I dont remember if you are married ? Hard to believe you have time to sleep . Article: 325761 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1131713035.149522.278960@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Oooh, a death ray... Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:05:32 GMT "This is a real live working Death ray and can result in serious injury or death if not operated properly." Uh, if operated properly, it SHOULD cause serious injury or death. That's what death rays are supposed to do. -- Mike Schultz wrote in message news:1131713035.149522.278960@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/Death-Ray_W0QQitemZ6578098363 > Article: 325762 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: DIAL COVERS, GLASS AND PLASTIC. Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:44:10 -0700 Message-ID: References: <807-4372251A-4@storefull-3152.bay.webtv.net> <767-4374AEAA-461@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Bill, It's great to see that you're doing as well as you are. Keep the faith my friend, and don't over do yourself. Take whatever time you need to get back into good shape before you tackle your business full force again...your health comes first. Ben "Bill Turner" wrote in message news:767-4374AEAA-461@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net... >I SHOULD MENTION HERE THAT I AM UNABLE TO DO SOME KINDS OF WORK. > HOPEFULLY I WILL RECOVER SUFFICIENTLY TO DO THESE THINGS WITHIN A > RELATEIVELY SHORT TIME. IN THE MEAN TIME I AM LEAVING > THOSE ITEMS ON MY WEBSITE IN HOPES IT WILL NOT BE TOO LONG. PLEASE > INQUIRE. > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. > > > > Article: 325763 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" Subject: WTB:TV flyback cross reference guide Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:57:31 -0800 Message-ID: <4374db88$0$54812$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Long ago I bought a large stash of NOS flyback transformers. The majority have FLY numbers. Does anyone out there have an old cross reference guide for these? I'd like to sort out some of the flybacks for sets I might like to get someday, and offer the rest to other TV collectors. Thanks! Steve Article: 325764 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: "Serious Bidders Only!" Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 12:57:15 -0500 Message-ID: <11n9mrr4si136a9@corp.supernews.com> Can't bid, too busy laughing- http://cgi.ebay.com/Atwater-Kent-1930ish-Antique-Console-Beautiful-Shape_W0QQitemZ6576359234 John H. Article: 325765 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" References: <11n9mrr4si136a9@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: "Serious Bidders Only!" Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:11:49 -0800 Hey some old rich guy will say My folks had that when I was a kid Gotta Have it Will be interesting to track e-bay and see if that old rich guy spots it Or someone restoring a historical landmark may want it We shall see -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11n9mrr4si136a9@corp.supernews.com... > Can't bid, too busy laughing- > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Atwater-Kent-1930ish-Antique-Console-Beautiful-Shape_W0QQitemZ6576359234 > > John H. > Article: 325766 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <1131713035.149522.278960@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Oooh, a death ray... Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 19:28:17 GMT YOU HAVE MADE ME VERY ANGRY! I WILL ANNIHILATE YOU NOW! (ehhhh, whats up, doc?) Article: 325767 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <767-4374CAA3-469@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: <%j6df.1712$ZA3.361604@monger.newsread.com> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 19:31:07 GMT Yes he does. "Ken G." wrote in message news:767-4374CAA3-469@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net... > Mark i dont see how you do it and ever get even half of it done . I dont > remember if you are married ? Hard to believe you have time to sleep . > Article: 325768 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <767-4374CAA3-469@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 15:33:59 -0500 Message-ID: Its tough. I dont have kids, for one. But, I stay up real late, most nights to 3am at least. I get up later, usually awake by 9:30am, up by 11am, out on the job site noon-7, or so, then dinner and onto the bench if possible or fill parts orders. Last night I got back from the job site 9:30pm, ate and did my emails and was in bed by 1am... thats unusual. I'd really like to train another helper, but I dont have the space yet. Leann is going to help with the dial biz later, but right now we have these apts to do, and she's right on them with me! She painted two baths and one kitchen in the last two days, and helped me lay a laminate floor last night. We did good, got it done in 3 hours. Most console jobs I can do in about 5 hours., ONCE I get to the bench! I'm a good month behind right now. But, you know, I have had at least one radio job waiting ever since I was about 16. I've now been doing this 33 years.... and. I think I am starting to feel it.... it can be overload sometimes....right Mr Goller? Mark Oppat "Ken G." wrote in message news:767-4374CAA3-469@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net... > Mark i dont see how you do it and ever get even half of it done . I dont > remember if you are married ? Hard to believe you have time to sleep . > > Article: 325769 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Motorola history site From: "Radio Active" Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:10:26 -0500 Message-ID: <1131743593_23829@spool6-east.superfeed.net> References: <1131554247.099570.78690@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> At one time Motorola also made Gumball machines. I was told this by a Vice Pres when I was employed by Motorola C & E Inc. in the 60s. verne wrote in message news:1131554247.099570.78690@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > You'll need broadband! Very cool, check out the police radio. (and > everything else) > > https://motofuture.motorola.com/flash_holder.html > > Terry. > ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Article: 325770 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: "Serious Bidders Only!" References: <11n9mrr4si136a9@corp.supernews.com> <1131737482.609339.176050@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:19:35 GMT Paul Dietenberger wrote: > What's the problem, they still using AK TRF consoles as firewood up in > your neck of the woods there John? :-) > The finish is all wrong, been stripped and little or no shading used. As far as AKs for firewood, I've got an AK70 that's going on the burn pile if someone doesn't come get it. Ron Article: 325771 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Phil Witt Subject: Interesting use of tubes Message-ID: <9caan15891e2a3l8nrua7b8rs30u72cdfq@4ax.com> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 17:30:46 -0600 http://www.brokenheartfoundation.org.uk/hawk/ Article: 325772 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Back Here For Good Date: Tue, 08 Nov 2005 22:18:10 -0500 Message-ID: <11n2qjjhgpphm27@corp.supernews.com> References: <11n2boe2s121l10@corp.supernews.com> <1131502595.921447.274440@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > Seems like there was this big tif going on somewhere else No Dave, it's all gone. In no way does ANYTHING WHICH HAS EVER OR WILL EVER OCCUR ON THE FORUM RESEMBLE A "TIFF". Even spirited discussion is prohibited. BUT poisonous libel is permitted if it is in defense of a PC cause. John H. Article: 325773 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: <1131721962.806609.147240@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I have a ghost Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 16:44:15 -0600 "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message > So now, when I get the sense she's watching I talk to her and ask her to > behave and quit hiding my tools and equipment. I know this must all sound > irrational, even stupid, but the feelings are real and I have turned them > around to something humorous in order to cope with them. > > Stewart > Since you didn't ask for my help I'll give it anyway. You say the entity is a she. Well easy fix, Just leave the toilet seat up in all baths etc... Just concentrate on what ever irritates the opposite sex and you got the problem licked. Good luck : ) -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 325774 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <9caan15891e2a3l8nrua7b8rs30u72cdfq@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Interesting use of tubes Message-ID: <3uadf.1734$ZA3.364843@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 00:14:55 GMT That is the most imaginative theme I've ever seen for a site, even if it IS a bit confusing to navigate. The only real letdown is that the links ain't as good as the site, graphically. My goodness, what dark fun. "Phil Witt" wrote in message news:9caan15891e2a3l8nrua7b8rs30u72cdfq@4ax.com... > http://www.brokenheartfoundation.org.uk/hawk/ Article: 325775 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <767-4374CAA3-469@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 00:16:18 GMT In article , moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... > >.. >it can be overload sometimes....right Mr Goller? > >Mark Oppat > Tilt Foul Overload Yup.... no question about it... right about the time I thought we had a handle on it all.... that freak storm that ripped up Ron and Bruces area.. well we got one too.. no deaths here.. all in one little bitty area maybe 1/2 mile circle... yup one of my rentals there... the tree guy got me for 1300 and the repairs to the house will be 1600 as per the insurance lady... right when I didn't need any of it!.... major radio behind of course... never gets any better !! John k9uwa Article: 325776 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Refinishing Brass Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 00:16:20 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <43716003$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net> <1131630746.826572.133170@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1131630746.826572.133170@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" writes: >The orange-shellac dip is noted above is about the most authentic >repro-coating. That material does age as the OEM coatings aged and so >forth. It also has the virtue of simplicity. But as with any coating, >dipped, sprayed or brushed, the substrate has to be ABSOLUTELY clean >and free of oils. With both bronze and brass, this is a moving target >as the materials (especially brass) have a porous surface and often >will retain oils, soaps and low-volatility solvents even if apparently >clean. Most bronze and/or brass objects are "pickled" before coating >for this purpose, usually in a strong (diluted) acid. NOTE: if you try >pickling at home, you will likely get red blush, caused by cuprous >oxide. So be careful. What are your thoughts about carefully cleaning the piece, then soaking it in alcohol overnight? I have a nameplate for a large switchboard panel watthourmeter that I've been meaning to coat in the manner described above. Peter, and everyone else, thanks for this thread. It's been most informative. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 325777 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <1131713035.149522.278960@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Oooh, a death ray... Message-ID: <3wadf.1735$ZA3.364810@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 00:17:03 GMT "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:g7mdnTj4HPaer-jenZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@comcast.com... > It's rather difficult to kill someone with a Tesla coil. The output is > (usually) at a high-enough frequency that the current flows over the surface > of your skin, not through your body. > > There's a classic Chales Addams cartoon showing an inventor in a patent > office. The examiner is pointing the inventor's device out the window, and > declares "Death ray, fiddlesticks! It doesn't even slow them down!" Gotta love a dedicated goverment worker! Article: 325778 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <767-4374CAA3-469@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: <_xadf.1736$ZA3.364773@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 00:19:06 GMT "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:mvadf.536854$_o.36413@attbi_s71... > In article , moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet > says... > > > >.. > >it can be overload sometimes....right Mr Goller? > > > >Mark Oppat > > > Tilt Foul Overload Yup.... no question about it... right about the > time I thought we had a handle on it all.... that freak storm that > ripped up Ron and Bruces area.. well we got one too.. no deaths > here.. all in one little bitty area maybe 1/2 mile circle... yup > one of my rentals there... the tree guy got me for 1300 and the repairs > to the house will be 1600 as per the insurance lady... > > right when I didn't need any of it!.... > > major radio behind of course... never gets any better !! > > John k9uwa You don't want it to get worse?!? >;-P Article: 325781 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Crazy George" References: <11n6rv654gmg005@corp.supernews.com> <11n8q4v48k5mk8b@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: old valve textbook Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 18:37:04 -0600 Message-ID: <43753d72_1@news1.prserv.net> I thought it looked familiar, but was too busy to go look last night. That's F. Langford Smith, and original copies of the third edition are available from Abe Books (and a lot of others) for around $8.00 US and up. I would expect that a copy could be found in the UK, but WHSmith doesn't show one. I have found their search sometimes misses, so a direct inquiry might be productive. In any event, postage would be affordable, if you spent no more than $8.00 for the book itself. -- Crazy George W5VPQ My real address is my ham call ARRL.NET The ATTGlobal is a SPAM trap. "Simon" wrote in message news:11n8q4v48k5mk8b@corp.supernews.com... >I got a reply on rec.audio.tube, and thought some of you might be > interested: > > " > Looks to be Radiotron Designer's Handbook, 3rd Edition, P. Langford > Smith, 1941,... or RDH3 for short. > > You can check more pages vs an online PDF of it from here: > > http://www.pmillett.com/tecnical_books_online.htm > > Specifically http://www.pmillett.com/Books/RDH3.pdf > " > > Article: 325782 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) Subject: Re: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. Date: 12 Nov 2005 00:45:13 GMT Message-ID: References: <18127-43701156-162@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> <437157b7$0$63054$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net> "Martin Crossley" writes: >>Sadly, most of those were hot chassis. >Negatory, good buddy. By and large, transformer operated color chasses >were isolated from the AC line. > In fact the 'hot chassis' practice was abandoned long >before the advent of color TV sets. Almost all of the "small" color TV sets (19" down) were Hot-chassis. You could get any number of filament strings by picking 300ma, 450ma, 600ma, etc. line ups. Hence, all the funky tubes with prefixes like 13, 17, 33, etc. Pretty much the only sets with transformers were console. Steve. -- Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Article: 325783 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) Subject: Re: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. Date: 12 Nov 2005 00:47:58 GMT Message-ID: References: <1131506620.372636.47380@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> tunghaichuan@yahoo.com writes: >Steven, >Pretty cool power supplies, thanks for posting the .pdf file. >One question though, what is the pentode labeled V1 on the third >schematic on the fourth page. It is marked "6AM" 6AM5? 6AM6? >TIA, >steve It is base diagram 6AM, which means any number of big horizontal output tubes like 6BQ6, 6CU6, etc. I was looking at the schematic for a Fluke 407. They did a smart thing. When they paralleled tubes for more power, they series the filament, so that if one burned out, the output went off rather than burning up the next tube. Steve. -- Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA From adouglasatgis.net Sat Nov 12 05:55:54 EST 2005 Article: 325784 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Victor RE57 Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 19:39:17 -0500 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 6 Message-ID: <9lcan1ho8pg76bn3jtu7pqoba048c43m9a@4ax.com> References: <20r7n1l5fqoiueene5t7lukhupjihoetil@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-653.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:325784 Hi, RE-73: 12,931 made, list price $99.50. I think the intro date is Feb. 1931 but I can't quite make it out on this xeroxed page. Alan Article: 325785 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: How does this come apart? References: <5te9n194ge7iinjv9vap9vlk93mbl1abe0@4ax.com> <1131729111.650180.265980@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <192an1tkvjg12odfmdp3tfm5cscl966rjj@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 01:45:51 GMT Blacksmith wrote: > Backlash springs? How do you reset them? The gear is split. Compress the spring by rotating the two halves of the gear so that there is 1-tooth worth of "offset" before you mate with the other gear shaft. The idea being that the gear ALWAYS mates fully with the other gear, hence the term anti-backlash. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325786 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: norml Subject: Re: Victor RE57 Message-ID: <1nian19pb5mm42iae1vqgnap14ofo3e4r2@4ax.com> References: <20r7n1l5fqoiueene5t7lukhupjihoetil@4ax.com> <9lcan1ho8pg76bn3jtu7pqoba048c43m9a@4ax.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 01:53:38 GMT Thanks, Price seems low, but it _was_ the height of the depression. Norm Alan Douglas wrotf: >Hi, > >RE-73: 12,931 made, list price $99.50. I think the intro date is >Feb. 1931 but I can't quite make it out on this xeroxed page. > >Alan Article: 325787 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: <11n9mrr4si136a9@corp.supernews.com> <1131737482.609339.176050@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: "Serious Bidders Only!" Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:03:10 -0600 "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:XN8df.4767$Ea3.1122685@twister.southeast.rr.com... > Paul Dietenberger wrote: > > What's the problem, they still using AK TRF consoles as firewood up in >> your neck of the woods there John? :-) >> > > The finish is all wrong, been stripped and > little or no shading used. > > As far as AKs for firewood, I've got an AK70 > that's going on the burn pile if someone doesn't > come get it. > > Ron I got a 60c right behind it. BH Article: 325789 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Refinishing Brass Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 02:28:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <43716003$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net> <1131630746.826572.133170@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131755203.018068.271660@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1131755203.018068.271660@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" writes: >You need a solvent that will dissolve anything from paraffin-based >waxes and oils to oils from skin. The alcohol will pull out most >water-soluble materials, but does not do well on oil-based >contaminants. A brisk rub-down using a lint-free rag soaked in acetone >will take care of the rest. OK. I'd always thought alcohol was a solvent for wax, but perhaps only certain types of waxes. When I get around to this I'll go the acetone route, and make sure not to get my fingers on it afterward. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 325790 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <20r7n1l5fqoiueene5t7lukhupjihoetil@4ax.com> <9lcan1ho8pg76bn3jtu7pqoba048c43m9a@4ax.com> <1nian19pb5mm42iae1vqgnap14ofo3e4r2@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Victor RE57 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 02:29:47 GMT Any listing on an RE45? Im hoping to do mine this winter. Thanks, -- Keith Keith Park Top Notch Restorations topnotch@nycap.rr.com > > > >RE-73: 12,931 made, list price $99.50. I think the intro date is > >Feb. 1931 but I can't quite make it out on this xeroxed page. > > > >Alan Article: 325791 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <1131721962.806609.147240@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I have a ghost Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:30:54 -0500 "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message news:EbCdnYwG1-7hVenenZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@bright.net... > Peter Wieck wrote: >> Sounds more like a Poltergeist. > Peter, > > Let me level with you and the others. Buck has it right. I have a > growing case of CRS and I have assigned all my senior moments to my > ghost as a way of dealing with them. It helps to relieve the frustration. Stewart: It takes one to know one. I'm tired of walking into a room and wondering why I came in. -- "Stay strong. Be brave. Wait for the signs." Regards, Buck Article: 325792 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <1131713035.149522.278960@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Oooh, a death ray... Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:42:22 -0500 "Mike Schultz" wrote in message news:wb4df.1337$rO4.746@trnddc05... > "This is a real live working Death ray and can result in serious injury or > death if not operated properly." > > Uh, if operated properly, it SHOULD cause serious injury or death. That's > what death rays are supposed to do. Yeah, I hate it when somebody operates a Death Ray improperly. It can ruin your whole day. -- "Communism: It's like one big telephone company." Regards, Frank Johansen Aurora, Ontario Article: 325793 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: I have a ghost References: <1131721962.806609.147240@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 02:41:13 GMT Buck Frobisher wrote: > "Stewart Schooley" wrote: >> >>Let me level with you and the others. Buck has it right. I have a >>growing case of CRS and I have assigned all my senior moments to my >>ghost as a way of dealing with them. It helps to relieve the frustration. > > > Stewart: It takes one to know one. I'm tired of walking into a room and > wondering why I came in. One day Bob was talking wtih his minister, and the minister said, "You're getting up in years there Bob. Shouldn't you be thinking about the here after?" Bob smiled and said, "Oh yes, I do constantly. I walk into the kitchen and ask myself, What am I here after?" Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325794 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <1131713035.149522.278960@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Oooh, a death ray... Message-ID: <8Ocdf.1749$ZA3.366080@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 02:52:52 GMT "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message news:mFcdf.21715$1L3.993429@news20.bellglobal.com... > "Mike Schultz" wrote in message > news:wb4df.1337$rO4.746@trnddc05... > > "This is a real live working Death ray and can result in serious injury or > > death if not operated properly." > > > > Uh, if operated properly, it SHOULD cause serious injury or death. That's > > what death rays are supposed to do. > > Yeah, I hate it when somebody operates a Death Ray improperly. It can ruin > your whole day. Never leave anything important to your tard flunkie associates... > -- > "Communism: It's like one big telephone company." Maybe that explains the nostalgia for Ma Bell. > > Regards, > > Frank Johansen > Aurora, Ontario > > Article: 325795 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: "Serious Bidders Only!" References: <11n9mrr4si136a9@corp.supernews.com> <1131737482.609339.176050@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 02:59:22 GMT Brian Hill wrote: >>As far as AKs for firewood, I've got an AK70 >>that's going on the burn pile if someone doesn't > > I got a 60c right behind it. > I'll try to remember to take a photo and post it on binaries. Ron Article: 325796 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: Oooh, a death ray... Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:14:22 -0500 Message-ID: <3tl50fFtgamlU1@individual.net> References: <1131713035.149522.278960@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> tschw10117@aol.com wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/Death-Ray_W0QQitemZ6578098363 Ha! holy shit!, now i've seen everything. by looking at it, i see it uses an old neon sign transformer that is only capable of delivering 6-10,000 volts, connected to what appears to be a bank of copper tubing that is placed between two copper bars. by the way it appears to be connected, it looks like the transformers secondary is dead shorted. i pity the person who connects that to the AC lines, it wont take long for that very expensive neon transformer to burn up. well, at least it is a cool looking piece of art. -- The Shadow Knows Article: 325797 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1131721962.806609.147240@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I have a ghost Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 03:10:11 GMT Reminds me of one of those "X Minus One" episodes. These guys land on some obscure planet, they look around and see these old stone towers, and aside from the towers there's nothing there. So they get ready to take off, but forget how. They keep forgetting more and more, and the only person who doesn't forget anything is a guy that stowed away some alcohol. So they got him really drunk and lowered him into one of the towers on a rope. Inside the towers were a bunch of tape recorders. So here's the deal: some civization way out in space wanted to get information from earth, so they built these towers and stuffed them with tape recorders. On earth, whenever you forget something, what's really happening is this civilization is picking the thoughts out of your brain and recording them via these towers. If you're drunk the information is scrambled and it can't use it. So these guys play back the tapes, and learn how to disassemble the rocket and build a better one. And you thought TODAY'S science fiction is wacky! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:dDcdf.6285$QM5.580@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > Buck Frobisher wrote: > >> "Stewart Schooley" wrote: >>> >>>Let me level with you and the others. Buck has it right. I have a >>>growing case of CRS and I have assigned all my senior moments to my >>>ghost as a way of dealing with them. It helps to relieve the frustration. >> >> >> Stewart: It takes one to know one. I'm tired of walking into a room and >> wondering why I came in. > > One day Bob was talking wtih his minister, and the minister said, > "You're getting up in years there Bob. Shouldn't you be thinking > about the here after?" > > Bob smiled and said, "Oh yes, I do constantly. I walk into the > kitchen and ask myself, What am I here after?" > > Jeff > > > -- > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325798 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Pat Perkins Subject: test Message-ID: <9uoan1l1fp1qdavjk3s4e35pa1h53m3hl6@4ax.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 03:39:44 GMT test Article: 325799 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Pat Perkins Subject: Re: "Serious Bidders Only!" Message-ID: <30pan1h2f98bv7aks3me26vmjrfgeafi58@4ax.com> References: <11n9mrr4si136a9@corp.supernews.com> <1131737482.609339.176050@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 03:41:13 GMT On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:19:35 GMT, Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: >Paul Dietenberger wrote: > > What's the problem, they still using AK TRF consoles as firewood up in >> your neck of the woods there John? :-) >> > >The finish is all wrong, been stripped and >little or no shading used. > >As far as AKs for firewood, I've got an AK70 >that's going on the burn pile if someone doesn't >come get it. > >Ron Ron, You're kidding, right? Where are you? I would be happy to give it a home! Ish Article: 325800 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: <11n9mrr4si136a9@corp.supernews.com> <1131737482.609339.176050@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: "Serious Bidders Only!" Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:41:39 -0600 "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:eUcdf.82$3o6.24746@twister.southeast.rr.com... > Brian Hill wrote: >>>As far as AKs for firewood, I've got an AK70 >>>that's going on the burn pile if someone doesn't >> >> I got a 60c right behind it. >> > > I'll try to remember to take a photo and post it > on binaries. > > Ron Me too. Boy some AK lovers gonne get fired up : ) BH Article: 325801 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gene McCluney Subject: Re: Philco 95 Lowboy Need Help ID'ing Smoked part References: <4375395B.7050801@iristech.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 03:51:11 GMT In article <4375395B.7050801@iristech.com>, jim wrote: > I just purchased a beautiful Model 95 Lowboy (Low Speaker) and since > most of the caps etc were already replaced, I decided to power it up > directly, instead of using a variac. Within a few seconds smoke started > pouring out of the inner part of the chassis directly below the > transformers. When I removed the chassis and got the bottom panel off I > discovered the problem but I'm not quite sure what it is and why it > fried. I'm guessing it is a wire wound resistor, but it is a bit > different than most I'm used to seeing. This one is a bare coil wrapped > over a rectangular piece of circuit board material...it looks a bit like > a coil and a bit like a resistor. In any case, it smoked mightily. I > have photos of the problem part, but anyone familiar with the circuit > board probably already knows what I'm trying to describe. Any > suggestions on the causes, as well as where to get a replacement? > Removing the power tube doesn't seem to make any difference, and the > resistor type object is connected to the wire trunk that runs along the > back of the chassis. > Thanks in advance to any help...this radio is almost pristine in > appearance, still has the colorful speaker grill/picture, the tuner > still turns freely with all knobs still attached...I thought I died and > went to Heaven when I finally got the radio in my grubby hands! I can't > wait to listen to it in a darkened room...nothing beats the glow from an > old tube set where you can almost see the magic happening in the tubes. > > Jim M. - Greensburg, Pa. I am sure you are aware that whatever caused this wirewound resistor to smoke, will also cause the next replacement to smoke, if you don't determine where the short is. If you have a schematic, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out which part this is. Gene McCluney Article: 325802 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: "Serious Bidders Only!" Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 23:08:20 -0500 Message-ID: <11naqlnl43toi6e@corp.supernews.com> References: <11n9mrr4si136a9@corp.supernews.com> <1131737482.609339.176050@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > > As far as AKs for firewood, I've got an AK70 > that's going on the burn pile if someone doesn't > come get it. Already burned mine this past Summer (it was quite ratty). Saved the chassis, though.... John H. Article: 325803 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: "Serious Bidders Only!" Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 23:10:44 -0500 Message-ID: <11naqq7r6dotqa5@corp.supernews.com> References: <11n9mrr4si136a9@corp.supernews.com> <1131737482.609339.176050@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <11naqlnl43toi6e@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > > > > Already burned mine this past Summer PS- First I took it to four swaps marked ten bucks, no takers... John H. Article: 325804 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 23:14:36 -0500 Message-ID: <11nar1gklet1nf6@corp.supernews.com> References: <767-4374CAA3-469@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Ken G. wrote: > Mark i dont see how you do it and ever get even half of it done He saves a LOT of time by using testing equipment, Ken. All experienced techs do, after all. Anyone can align by ear, but it takes longer and can result in a radio aligned to an IF of 556 khz like one I recently fixed. John H. Article: 325805 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: "Serious Bidders Only!" References: <11n9mrr4si136a9@corp.supernews.com> <1131737482.609339.176050@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <30pan1h2f98bv7aks3me26vmjrfgeafi58@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 04:18:25 GMT Pat Perkins wrote: > Ron, You're kidding, right? Where are you? I would be happy to give > it a home! > No I'm not kidding, I have one in an AK 70 crate, and this one needs way more work than I would do for anything, much less an AK 70. The chassis looks OK, the speaker cone is ripped I think and the cabinet has a lot of loose veneer. And I have NO room to store it all, the cabinet is headed for the burn pile if someone doesn't come get it. I'm near Charlotte, NC. Ron Article: 325806 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Riders Electronic Index Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 20:03:36 -0800 Message-ID: References: <43735544$0$27771$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> Larry Fowkes wrote: > A while back I downloaded a great little program which electronically indexs > Riders and Beitmans manuals, and also SAMS I believe. At any rate this is a > great help, however I need to download it again and re-install on a new > computer. I can't seem to find a current link to the program. Anybody happen > to have it handy? > > Thanks in advance .. Larry Fowkes > > http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/USL_FILES/index.html -Scott Article: 325807 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4375742E.E31A0FD0@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Yet another "My First Catalin" update References: <1131766108.696091.185010@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 23:48:47 -0500 Terry, Sick? I think its time for my flu shot.... I always enjoyed your website with descriptions for each radio. Keep it up! Regards, Sal Brisindi tschw10117@aol.com wrote: > Hope you aren't getting sick of this already :-) > > http://members.aol.com/tschw10118/myfirstcatalin.htm > > Bill Morris was kind enough to email me a couple of early RCA ads > showing this pricey radio. One is from a 1947 "House and Garden" > magazine, the other is an edited ad Bill prepared for his club's > newsletter cover. The issue had a story on battery portables. > > Anyway, I've resized them, and with Bill's kind permission, put them on > my web site. I also managed to buy an original piece of RCA service > literature for it; scans of that are up there too. > > The H&G ad shows the retail price of this beauty as $75 !!!! While a > less fancy model using the same chassis could be had for $29.95... so > $45 for the Catalin and gold plated case. Wow! Oh yeah, the high end > buyer also got the flannel bag. > > I'm still enamored with the radio. I've collected enough ephemera now > that it'll make a great contest entry for next spring's Radio Daze > contest. > > If anyone has additional ads, I'd love scans or originals. > > Thanks > > Terry. Article: 325808 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: odd variable capacitor ? Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:46:52 -0700 Message-ID: References: <7n0df.15196$q%.10041@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com> On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 12:44:51 +0000, Henry Kolesnik wrote: > I never heard of the transmitter scam before and I would think that people > would have wanted to hear their favorite 2 or 3 stations. I wonder how they > did the scam? > Hank > "Jim Haynes" wrote in message > news:SaVcf.7676$AS6.7074@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... >> In article , >> Henry Kolesnik wrote: How could they have 2 or 3 favorite stations if they didn't have a radio? -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 325809 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Setting permeability push button tuners Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 21:48:18 -0700 Message-ID: Just finishing a Motorola console that has push button tuning. Rather than the old standard mechanical push buttons, this one has the permeability tuned buttons that are set with both the slug core and a trimmer for each button. Is there a "quick" way to set these buttons or do I have to just slowly tune the slug till I happen to run across the station I want that button to be set to ?? Does anyone know of any articles that explain how to set these tuners with the least amout of fussing with them ?? This is the first set that I've done with this type of push buttons. Ben Article: 325810 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: Subject: Re: Setting permeability push button tuners Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 04:57:56 GMT Sound like those 80s TVs and VCRs with 13-15 buttons and you either turn a cam or, in the case of some Trinitrons I have, scan and LEDs indicate the band range...either one was a pain. "benjamaniac" wrote in message news:dl3s6f$eb71$1@news3.infoave.net... > Just finishing a Motorola console that has push button tuning. Rather > than the old standard mechanical push buttons, this one has the permeability > tuned buttons that are set with both the slug core and a trimmer for each > button. Is there a "quick" way to set these buttons or do I have to just > slowly tune the slug till I happen to run across the station I want that > button to be set to ?? Does anyone know of any articles that explain how to > set these tuners with the least amout of fussing with them ?? This is the > first set that I've done with this type of push buttons. > Ben > > Article: 325811 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <1131766108.696091.185010@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4375742E.E31A0FD0@optonline.net> Subject: Re: Yet another "My First Catalin" update Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 04:59:09 GMT Si, bueno! Mas STUFF... "Sal Brisindi" wrote in message news:4375742E.E31A0FD0@optonline.net... > Terry, > Sick? I think its time for my flu shot.... > > I always enjoyed your website with descriptions for each radio. Keep it > up! > > Regards, > Sal Brisindi > > > > > tschw10117@aol.com wrote: > > > Hope you aren't getting sick of this already :-) > > > > http://members.aol.com/tschw10118/myfirstcatalin.htm > > > > Bill Morris was kind enough to email me a couple of early RCA ads > > showing this pricey radio. One is from a 1947 "House and Garden" > > magazine, the other is an edited ad Bill prepared for his club's > > newsletter cover. The issue had a story on battery portables. > > > > Anyway, I've resized them, and with Bill's kind permission, put them on > > my web site. I also managed to buy an original piece of RCA service > > literature for it; scans of that are up there too. > > > > The H&G ad shows the retail price of this beauty as $75 !!!! While a > > less fancy model using the same chassis could be had for $29.95... so > > $45 for the Catalin and gold plated case. Wow! Oh yeah, the high end > > buyer also got the flannel bag. > > > > I'm still enamored with the radio. I've collected enough ephemera now > > that it'll make a great contest entry for next spring's Radio Daze > > contest. > > > > If anyone has additional ads, I'd love scans or originals. > > > > Thanks > > > > Terry. > Article: 325812 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Portable record player amplifier question Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:02:24 -0700 Message-ID: References: <2676-43720767-3@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> <1131687288.992887.144460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131696063.550224.191320@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Fri, 11 Nov 2005 09:28:02 -0400, Bill wrote: > Brenda Ann wrote: > > >> >> Most likely, but those didn't use the motor for filament dropping. >> > > > Good point. > > -Bill As usual, there were variations. I have a GE mono portable from the 60s that has 2 tubes, a 35W4 and a 35EH5. The tube heaters are in parallel with each other and the pair is in series with an 85V motor. BTW, the motors used in these things are induction motors. Synchronous motors were too expensive. At light loads induction motors run at a fairly constant speed, at least they're constant enough for a mass-market record player. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 325813 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 01:34:57 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: odd variable capacitor ? References: <7n0df.15196$q%.10041@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com> Message-ID: <1c0e4$43757f03$4232bd2e$1386@COQUI.NET> Jim Mueller wrote: > How could they have 2 or 3 favorite stations if they didn't have a radio? > I know it sounds silly but I work in cable tv and everybody seems to have some 'favorite' oddball channel that they are demanding be carried as part of their service. -Bill Article: 325814 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: How does this come apart? References: <5te9n194ge7iinjv9vap9vlk93mbl1abe0@4ax.com> <1131729111.650180.265980@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <192an1tkvjg12odfmdp3tfm5cscl966rjj@4ax.com> <32van15pr94tn7udjm05is6q2ds2cql54c@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 05:57:26 GMT Blacksmith wrote: > Jeff, > After looking the split gear over I saw that there was a 2-tooth > difference between the two. I compressed the spring so that the end > teeth were even and then meshed the little gear with the split gear. > > That sound right? Congratulations, you are now certified to work on a majority of W.W.II vintage military radios. Most all of which had the anti backlash set up. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325815 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: odd variable capacitor ? Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 23:56:32 -0700 Message-ID: References: <7n0df.15196$q%.10041@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com> well, if you had more than one transmitter, you could simply act as a repeater and boost the signal on as many stations as you had transmitters. but i just dont see it actually happening. sounds crazy. randy "Henry Kolesnik" wrote in message news:7n0df.15196$q%.10041@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com... >I never heard of the transmitter scam before and I would think that people >would have wanted to hear their favorite 2 or 3 stations. I wonder how >they did the scam? > Hank Article: 325816 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Setting permeability push button tuners Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 22:49:24 -0800 Message-ID: References: benjamaniac wrote: > Just finishing a Motorola console that has push button tuning. Rather > than the old standard mechanical push buttons, this one has the permeability > tuned buttons that are set with both the slug core and a trimmer for each > button. Is there a "quick" way to set these buttons or do I have to just > slowly tune the slug till I happen to run across the station I want that > button to be set to ?? Does anyone know of any articles that explain how to > set these tuners with the least amout of fussing with them ?? This is the > first set that I've done with this type of push buttons. Back in the day, some dealers had a special RF generator with the frequencies of all the local stations pre-set to facilitate quick alignment of the pushbuttons. You could probably do a variation of that idea with a bench RF generator. Whether that would actually save any time over just tweaking the slugs until the desired station comes in is debatable. -Scott Article: 325817 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 04:32:27 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Setting permeability push button tuners References: Message-ID: <5b553$4375a89d$4232bd2e$6771@COQUI.NET> Scott W. Harvey wrote: > benjamaniac wrote: > >> Just finishing a Motorola console that has push button tuning. Rather >> than the old standard mechanical push buttons, this one has the >> permeability >> tuned buttons that are set with both the slug core and a trimmer for each >> button. Is there a "quick" way to set these buttons or do I have to just >> slowly tune the slug till I happen to run across the station I want that >> button to be set to ?? Does anyone know of any articles that explain >> how to >> set these tuners with the least amout of fussing with them ?? This is the >> first set that I've done with this type of push buttons. > > > > Back in the day, some dealers had a special RF generator with the > frequencies of all the local stations pre-set to facilitate quick > alignment of the pushbuttons. You could probably do a variation of that > idea with a bench RF generator. Whether that would actually save any > time over just tweaking the slugs until the desired station comes in is > debatable. > > -Scott > I had one of those serviceman's generators for setting pushbuttons. Cute little thing, useless nowadays. I remember in my small town/one station market that they only broadcasted certain hours of the day. It must have been useful back then. WEWO went to siesta at 2PM after the obits and came back at 5-ish and then went away at sundown and we tuned off to Charlotte or Miami. (WAYS and WIOD were on 610 and we listened to whichever was coming in). Nowadays you just trim the osc cap until you find the station and tweak the ant trimmer for max. If it takes more than 15 seconds you are turning the wrong cap! -Bill Article: 325818 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Luke Turner" Subject: schematics needed Message-ID: <6cjdf.15555$Hj2.14528@news-server.bigpond.net.au> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:10:10 GMT First, I apologise for cross-posting to so many groups, but it seems the only way to find what I want. I have acquired an old console radio with the brand of N.K.T. both on the front and the chassis of the radio. I am missing a valve and there is no schematic diagram which would tell me which valve is needed. There is no other visible identification marks on the chassis or the cabinet. I was told by the previous owner that it was working up to a few years ago, then their son took a valve out and it of course, stopped working. It has a very good cabinet for its age, approximately 1920 or so, no chips or scratches on the veneer, it has a small half crescent moon type of dial approximately 5" across numbered 0 - 100 right to left. I would like to get this radio going if possible and would appreciate any help with circuit diagram and the history of the N.K.T. radio. Thanks Luke VK3ALV Article: 325819 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Frank & Pam Hayes" References: Subject: Re: Blaupunkt Vienna Speaker Replacement Question Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:30:16 GMT Thank you for the information Gene. From adouglasatgis.net Sun Nov 13 11:34:34 EST 2005 Article: 325820 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Victor RE57 Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 07:04:53 -0500 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 6 Message-ID: <0embn192h872l2563v9kcovh7npeov6kr7@4ax.com> References: <20r7n1l5fqoiueene5t7lukhupjihoetil@4ax.com> <9lcan1ho8pg76bn3jtu7pqoba048c43m9a@4ax.com> <1nian19pb5mm42iae1vqgnap14ofo3e4r2@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-077.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:325820 Hi, >Any listing on an RE45? >Im hoping to do mine this winter. 99,783 made list $275, intro May 1929 Article: 325821 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: Subject: Re: Flatulence Machine Goes Bersek Message-ID: <0sldf.1769$ZA3.370533@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 12:43:40 GMT Does Howard Stern know his endorsements are paying off? "Theresa McCarty" wrote in message news:X6-dnfjz04E2R-jenZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@qx.net... > We have a plastic-cased [not Bakelite or catalin] battery powered > rude-noise-generating machine (with twist-out tone-enhancer) that is > remotely controlled by a matchbox size bat. pow. radio transmitter. We use > it for special occasions like family visits, Happy Holiday doldrums, and > funerals. > Well, last month from its hitherto mute repose in our 'guest' bedroom, > it began burping and muttering continuously, displaying without any apparent > provocation its full repertoire of mellifluous toots and vibratos. > Satisfying myself that I was not being teased by the mischievous Mrs., I > let it rumble on, until Theresa got home and ended the relentless symphony > by removing the batteries. > The present context of near-universal fixed and mobile RF sources > notwithstanding, I was curious if anyone in the NG was familiar with the > failure mode of these otherwise useful and reliable devices. > Thanx in advance, ~~~Jimmy > > Article: 325822 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <6cjdf.15555$Hj2.14528@news-server.bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: schematics needed Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 12:48:33 GMT Oops,no reply GROUP and wrong poster in queue. Luke, do remember RAR+P is a text group and please post them to alt.binariries.pictures.radio for all with a note for the other groups. Thank you. "Luke Turner" wrote in message news:6cjdf.15555$Hj2.14528@news-server.bigpond.net.au... > First, I apologise for cross-posting to so many groups, but it seems the > only way to find what I want. > I have acquired an old console radio with the brand of N.K.T. both on the > front and the chassis of the radio. > I am missing a valve and there is no schematic diagram which would tell me > which valve is needed. > There is no other visible identification marks on the chassis or the > cabinet. > I was told by the previous owner that it was working up to a few years ago, > then their son took a valve out and it of course, stopped working. > It has a very good cabinet for its age, approximately 1920 or so, no chips > or scratches on the veneer, it has a small half crescent moon type of dial > approximately 5" across numbered 0 - 100 right to left. > I would like to get this radio going if possible and would appreciate any > help with circuit diagram and the history of the N.K.T. radio. > Thanks > Luke > VK3ALV > > > Article: 325823 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: Subject: Re: Flatulence Machine Goes Bersek Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:00:19 GMT A variable loop and or filter would likely help your clock, as would a check for grounding quality for all your lines with such device potential plugged in and battery-ops that have sloppy circuits related that could bleed. How often does your smoke alarm or security system cycle? Or that electronic thermistat or other such devices? "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:nbWdnZr0gcHFeejenZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@comcast.com... > I used to have the Heath "Most-Accurate Clock", which synched to the NIST > time signals. It had to lock on and correctly decode * three times in a row > before it would display the time. "Something" in my neighborhood produced a > once-per-minute burst of RF noise (audible over the clock's speaker) that > made it difficult for the clock to lock. > > Though your problem with the wind-breaking might be caused by RFI, it could > just as well be caused by circuit failure or CMOS lockup. > > * Before anyone thinks to ask... No, it had no way of determining whether > the decoded time was truly "correct". But if it decoded 12:03, then 12:04, > then 12:05, it assumed all three decodes were right. > > Article: 325824 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <1131713035.149522.278960@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8Ocdf.1749$ZA3.366080@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: Oooh, a death ray... Message-ID: <6Kldf.1772$ZA3.371018@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:02:58 GMT That's so odd. In 19 years, I've never had a hackle raised by AT&T. My local co. and Qwest are NOT as lucky. "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:uoCdnWIma4ZEeejeRVn-jQ@comcast.com... > > Maybe that explains the nostalgia for Ma Bell. > > What nostalgia? AT&T has some of the most-agressively awful customer > "service" I've ever experienced. This is a company that discourages its > employees from helping customers. > > Article: 325825 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: tapped volume controls From: Larry References: <436ff52c$1@news.meer.net> <4370f218@news.meer.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:32:14 -0500 "Gary Tayman" wrote in news:pAncf.1339$c_1.338@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net: > Come to thin of it, have you ever walked into a Wal-Mart and heard the > high-pitched squeal? Yes, we used to have a grocery store that had high-frequency-audio detectors. I used to wear ear plugs to protect my hearing because they were so loud and the idiots didn't shut them off when the store was open. They were soon removed from all the complaints. -- Larry Article: 325826 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: What countries use the Long Wave band for broadcasting? From: Larry References: <1131623320.262165.102940@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:41:06 -0500 "Peter Wieck" wrote in news:1131623320.262165.102940@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > There are some LW transmissions in the middle east. As I experienced, > mostly (apparently) navigation beacons. They were modulated tones > (warbles) in any case. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > > I used to operate SMS on 262 Khz in MCW from the Sumter, SC, airport. Antenna is a heavily-loaded 60' whip with the 50W transmitter mounted right on the side of it. Big capacitor hat on top to pull more current up the antenna. We buried 36 ground radials out slightly more than 1/4 wavelength under the field with a Ditch Witch, only cutting the phone line twice! Coming back in a Cessna at 3000' you could hear it and steer by it for about 100 miles. I can hear it at night in Charleston, 110 miles away. It's still on the air, but I don't know who (if anyone) is running it now. It belongs to the airport. -- Larry Because they're low powered, NDBs are fun to DX. CH is Charleston with voice over weather. My Nordemende Globetraveller II made a great beacon compass to CH back in the 60's when my ship, USS Everglades (AD-24), was coming back from the Med. I used to take it up to the bullnose in our bow to make sure the navigator hadn't screwed up again, making us get home late....(c; Article: 325827 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: OT: Flatulence Machine Goes Bersek Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 06:34:27 -0800 Message-ID: <25136-4375FD73-343@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> References: Perhaps it needs an exorcism, with the incantation "flatulence will get you nowhere." oc From garnieatsaskteldotnet Sun Nov 13 11:34:36 EST 2005 Article: 325828 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: garnie Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: I have a ghost Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:56:49 -0600 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 63 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-08!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:325828 As soon as the three of us finished moving into the new house 20 years ago we found that we had a fourth member. Nothing major but things like waking up in the middle of night to find our bedroom light on, various appliances turning on or off by themselves, strange crashing noises with nothing found and frequent occurences of someone walking heavy-footed down the basement stairs and I turn around to find no-one there. We learned to simply talk to him/her and lay down ground rules as if it were a child ... time for bed ... don't make so much noise ... if yer gonna turn on the lights then yer gonna pay the electric bill. Things have been strangely quiet the last few months and I'd actually rather have him/her back with us. Being normally lucid people, we kind of got used to it. As far as I know the property used to be a curling rink. There's still part of the concrete foundation under the soil from the front yard to the back alley and part of the waiting room floor is still under the front lawn. Never heard of anyone croaking in the direct vicinity. Regards, Garnie On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 18:07:35 -0500, Stewart Schooley wrote: >I heard once that ghosts often inhabit objects in the house where they >once lived and when the object is sold in a garage or estate sale, the >ghost goes with it. Well, I have a ghost and I think it came in with the >Victrola VV-X1 about five years ago. That's the one that had the Spanish >Navaja folding knife hidden in the space behind the record storage. It >had a 9" blade and was a deadly weapon. My grandaughter still thinks it >was a murder weapon or it wouldn't have been hidden > >I think my ghost is a woman. Who else could be so devilish wicked in >their attempts to bedevil me? The trouble started simply enough. At >first it was "where's my screwdriver? "where did my brush go? Things >like that. Then it got worse as more and more things got harder and >harder to find. I began to suspect someone or some 'thing' was behind this. > >It all came to a head this morning when I spent 15 minutes looking for a >jar of paint I had mixed for the Liberty cathedral I'm working on. I >finally found it in a box of my sanding stuff........ and the box wasn't >where I usually keep it!!! Now I know I have a ghost, but I can't figure >out why she wants to hang around here and hide things from an old guy >like me. > >Later today I wanted to work on the eschuteon for this radio and I can't >find it. Looked everywhere. I had taped the brads to it and put it in an >envelope. Of course I know where I put it,.....but it isn't there. She >got me again!!! > >Am I the only one here with this problem or have some of you experienced >this after bringing an old radio into your home? > >If the situation doesn't improve soon, I may have to call in an exorcist. > >Still haven't found the eschuteon. > >Stewart > > Article: 325829 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: I have a ghost Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:47:25 -0700 Message-ID: <29590-43760E8D-34@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: I remembered these .. Here in this house i had a little cat and one day she never came home from being outside . Later on one night while asleep i woke up with the distinct feeling of 2 objects pushing on my chest and when i opened my eyes in the almost dark room i saw the dark image of an animals head with sticking up ears . It went away very shortly and i remember rubbing my chest where the objects ( paws perhaps ) were and being a little spooked . I told a friend of mine and she said that cat came back to say goodbuy because she was dead . My toughts on that were just some sort of dream . Where i work the building is right about 100 years old and used to be a creamery . The bacement is where we park all the incoming pallets of stuff . 2 of us were asked to go down there to find an item for a customer like many times before . It was dead quiet down there and both of us heard foot steps and figured someone else was coming to look for another item . .. no one so we came out from behind the piles of boxes on pallets .. no one . Both of us heard those foot steps ! never again did i hear them and have been down there hundreds of times so ??? Back on my first post . I can agree i probably was just in a hurry and missed the role of tape but none of us could ever figure out that blender jar . I studied that situation for an hour checking all angles and possibilitys . Article: 325830 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Charlie Martin" References: <1131565130.898162.134330@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11n5e9gp3ds6ia6@corp.supernews.com> <_s1df.8464$GT3.2148@fe02.lga> <1131808330.392860.225350@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: SC-140K looks original but is it? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:55:16 -0500 Agreed, Eddie. If I had the $$ to have this radio repaired, I would do so, but just too many "strays" hanging around, and (shame on me) I never learned the art of tube radio repair. Some just follow me home and I can't turn 'em away . . . As it stands, the set has zero bids, but *28* watchers. eBay ain't as fun as it used to be. Charlie (where VT can't figure out if it's fall or winter) "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1131808330.392860.225350@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >i can't say for sure "this" finish is original. Article: 325831 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: crossposted crap Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:56:12 -0700 Message-ID: References: if you mean the story about your pointless need to p "Lecher" wrote in message news:fl2cn1hsp3bn9q280jra6jkkm7m7at5t70@4ax.com... > Are the stories true? Article: 325832 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Al Subject: Re: Latin Fast House Message-ID: References: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 16:01:38 GMT On 12 Nov 2005 15:27:02 GMT, Lecher wrote: >Are the stories true? I've been there. They are true. It's right off the Expressway. Like a drive in. :) Article: 325833 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Oooh, a death ray... Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:12:43 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1131713035.149522.278960@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8Ocdf.1749$ZA3.366080@monger.newsread.com> <6Kldf.1772$ZA3.371018@monger.newsread.com> "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:re2dnV4kyJhHjuvenZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> That's so odd. In 19 years, I've never had a hackle raised by AT&T. My > local >> co. and Qwest are NOT as lucky. > > You're fortunate. I've run into many people who detest AT&T for their > horrible customer service. In my case, I wanted to get my expensive > Genesis > telephones serviced. > > "Sorry, parts are no longer available. Those phones are obsolete." > > How about a service manual? "It contains proprietary information." > > Get the disconnect (joke intended)? You can't see the service manual for > an > obsolete product because it contains private AT&T information. > > Well, how about if I return the phone, and for the cost of the repair, you > send me a new, comparable phone. "No." > > My account manager at BMG once told me that friend who worked at AT&T had > gone out of her way to help a customer. When the customer sent a thank-you > letter, the friend's boss called her on the carpet for it. > > I do not do business with AT&T. They have no concern whatever for their > customers. I've done enough business with other companies that do to know > that my judgement is accurate. if you let at&t walk all over you, yes they give horrible service. what you apparantly never learned is that you have to keep threatening to leave. its like it goes to a whole new 'ass kissing' department once they think you are serious about leaving. randy Article: 325834 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: OT: Flatulence Machine Goes Bersek Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:00:52 -0700 Message-ID: <29588-437611B4-505@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: it began burping and muttering continuously, displaying without any apparent provocation its full repertoire of mellifluous toots and vibratos ``and garbage``. Sounds like you know who :-) Article: 325835 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Philco 95 Lowboy Need Help ID'ing Smoked part Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:27:11 -0700 Message-ID: <29588-437617DF-511@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <93fdf.47$vq1.37@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Also on the lamp socket . In many radios the metal on the socket is not supposd to touch the chassis and needs some sort of rubbed gromet to hold it in . Not sure about your radio .. just a thought Article: 325836 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Setting permeability push button tuners Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:20:56 -0700 Message-ID: <29588-43761668-510@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <5b553$4375a89d$4232bd2e$6771@COQUI.NET> Along with what Phil said ... When you do search for stations with the slug first turn the other screw `antenna adjust` for the loudest static then continue station searching . I have found that as you turn the slug or station screw the antenna adjust drifts off making it hard to find distant stations . Article: 325837 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: "Serious Bidders Only!" Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:34:30 -0700 Message-ID: <29588-43761996-512@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <11n9mrr4si136a9@corp.supernews.com> I has some imperfections .. but.. she ``cant see them`` Oh lordy Article: 325838 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Philco 95 Lowboy Need Help ID'ing Smoked part From: Ron Ramirez References: <4375395B.7050801@iristech.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:43:49 GMT Sounds like the dual bias resistor, which has two sections of 70 ohms each. As others have mentioned, you will need to find out what caused it to burn up. If you don't already have a schematic, get one. Here are two free starters for you, with the parts values labelled: http://www.philcoradio.com/tech/images/95.jpg http://www.philcoradio.com/tech/images/95e.jpg My website. -- Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ and the new Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php jim wrote in news:4375395B.7050801@iristech.com: > I just purchased a beautiful Model 95 Lowboy (Low Speaker) and since > most of the caps etc were already replaced, I decided to power it up > directly, instead of using a variac. Within a few seconds smoke > started pouring out of the inner part of the chassis directly below > the transformers. When I removed the chassis and got the bottom panel > off I discovered the problem but I'm not quite sure what it is and why > it fried. I'm guessing it is a wire wound resistor, but it is a bit > different than most I'm used to seeing. This one is a bare coil > wrapped over a rectangular piece of circuit board material...it looks > a bit like a coil and a bit like a resistor. In any case, it smoked > mightily. I have photos of the problem part, but anyone familiar with > the circuit board probably already knows what I'm trying to describe. > Any suggestions on the causes, as well as where to get a replacement? > Removing the power tube doesn't seem to make any difference, and the > resistor type object is connected to the wire trunk that runs along > the back of the chassis. > Thanks in advance to any help...this radio is almost pristine in > appearance, still has the colorful speaker grill/picture, the tuner > still turns freely with all knobs still attached...I thought I died > and went to Heaven when I finally got the radio in my grubby hands! I > can't wait to listen to it in a darkened room...nothing beats the glow > from an old tube set where you can almost see the magic happening in > the tubes. > > Jim M. - Greensburg, Pa. Article: 325839 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 10:32:14 -0700 Message-ID: <29589-4376271E-133@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <11nar1gklet1nf6@corp.supernews.com> He saves a LOT of time by using testing equipment, Ken. All experienced techs do, I know John .. i know you think all i have here are books of matches and a hammer . The only way to cure this is to visit in person . Words on a screen are not working . Some test equipment is needed in some situations , sure but the true experienced tech can almost feel/smell many problems and have it fixed before all those probes come out . I agree you can get your alignment perfect with a S.G. Many times there is no difference between 90% and 100% and i`m in no hurry :-) Article: 325840 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" Subject: RE: Serious Bidders Only (Auction Ended) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 09:51:46 -0800 JUST FYI: Well the AK at e-bay Atwater Kent 1930ish Antique Console Beautiful Shape! $1,150.00 Had no bidders http://cgi.ebay.com/Atwater-Kent-1930ish-Antique-Console-Beautiful-Shape_W0QQitemZ6576359234 Guess that old guy whose folks had one -- didn't see the auction (;-) -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! Article: 325841 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Luke Turner" References: <6cjdf.15555$Hj2.14528@news-server.bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: schematics needed Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:58:33 GMT "philo" wrote in message news:pan.2005.11.12.11.28.42.13907@privacy.net... > > > told by the previous owner that it was working up to a few years ago, > > then their son took a valve out and it of course, stopped working. > > It has a very good cabinet for its age, approximately 1920 or so, no chips > > or scratches on the veneer, it has a small half crescent moon type of dial > > approximately 5" across numbered 0 - 100 right to left. > > I would like to get this radio going if possible and would appreciate any > > help with circuit diagram and the history of the N.K.T. radio. > > Thanks > > Luke > > VK3ALV > > > it would help if you could give a lot more info... > and also include a link to a good photo of the chassis Sorry, this is all the info I can get, there is no other indication on the cabinet or chassis as to where the radio is made nor is there any circuit diagram that used to accompany every radio and was stuck on the cabinet somewhere, it seems the previous owners didn't like that piece of paper and took it off. I had thought the radio was made in Denmark, but a search hasn't come up with anything. I don't really want to take the chassis out of the cabinet if possible, but if nothing comes out of my request, then I will. I thought maybe with the name, there would be someone who would remember the brand and as it is in completely original condition, almost showroom quality apart from water stains on the top from a flower vase, I am a bit adverse to taking it apart. Thanks for your reply. Luke Article: 325842 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: I have a ghost References: <29590-43760E8D-34@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:53:20 -0500 Ken G. wrote: > while asleep i woke up with the distinct feeling of 2 > objects pushing on my chest and when i opened my eyes in the almost dark > room i saw the dark image of an animals head with sticking up ears . Reminds me of a story a friend of mine told. He woke up in the middle of the night with something cold and wet on his chest. He opened his eyes and it hopped off him. 'RIBBET!' How did the toads get in the house? We got big buffos in south Fla. Article: 325843 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Latin Fast House References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:14:04 -0500 OK, I'll bite, what is a Latin Fast House? Ken Lecher wrote: > Are the stories true? Article: 325844 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: AC Dayton XL5 repair in metro DC? References: <1131821747.267905.19160@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 14:16:21 -0500 Check with these guys http://www.maarc.org/ tacottle@gmail.com wrote: > Does anyone know where I could get an AC Dayton XL5 radio repaired in > metro Washington, DC? The radio itself looks to be in good shape. All > the pieces appear to be intact. One of the four big tubes is obviously > broken. > Article: 325845 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Juergen Hannappel Subject: Re: Latin Fast House Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:46:14 +0100 Message-ID: References: Ken writes: > OK, I'll bite, what is a Latin Fast House? Ken Domus celer. -- Dr. Juergen Hannappel http://lisa2.physik.uni-bonn.de/~hannappe mailto:hannappel@physik.uni-bonn.de Phone: +49 228 73 2447 FAX ... 7869 Physikalisches Institut der Uni Bonn Nussallee 12, D-53115 Bonn, Germany CERN: Phone: +412276 76461 Fax: ..77930 Bat. 892-R-A13 CH-1211 Geneve 23 Article: 325846 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Motorola history site References: <1131554247.099570.78690@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:27:18 GMT John Byrns wrote: > Your SCO analogy was misleading, making it appear that you were talking > about litigation related to patents or intellectual property, not > misrepresentation of remanufactured radios. That was indeed to focus of the lawsuit. Copyright and Trade Mark infringement. > I would think that a > "repaired/used radio" is obviously "counterfeit" if it is being > misrepresented as a new radio, or bid as such. Don't you think > merchandise should be fairly represented for what it is? They were represented as USED with appropriate repairs etc.. They have a history of "taking care of" people that bid against them to government agencies. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325847 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Oooh, a death ray... Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 06:23:08 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1131713035.149522.278960@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8Ocdf.1749$ZA3.366080@monger.newsread.com> "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:uoCdnWIma4ZEeejeRVn-jQ@comcast.com... >> Maybe that explains the nostalgia for Ma Bell. > > What nostalgia? AT&T has some of the most-agressively awful customer > "service" I've ever experienced. This is a company that discourages its > employees from helping customers. "We don't care. We don't have to. We're the phone company." - Lily Tomlin (as Ernestine) Article: 325848 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Finally Subject: Re: Latin Fast House References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 15:39:58 -0600 Juergen Hannappel wrote: > Ken writes: > >> OK, I'll bite, what is a Latin Fast House? Ken > > Domus celer. Oh THAT helped!! Article: 325849 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Shellac Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 18:28:19 -0500 Message-ID: <11ncukp1jit8d60@corp.supernews.com> I always get blank looks when I talk about dewaxed shellac, and about not using layers and layers of shellac spit coats (just a nice layer to start, sanded to a frazzle). Check this out- http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/Shellac_as_a_Sealer.html > Forum Responses > (Finishing Forum) > From contributor M: > The main reason coating manufacturers say "no" to shellac under their coatings is because some shellacs contain wax, which can effect adhesion, and could cause problems. Also, if you sandwich shellac between another coating, do not go back to shellac again, or you may get a bad reaction. Also, please note DO NOT use really fine grit paper (320 and above) prepping wood to be lacquered !! Between coats, okay, but never bare wood. This explains the problems with my early respray jobs chipping so easily- I followed advice often heard on the Forum to use degreased #000 steel wool as a final prep of bare hardwood. No, you cannot see the scratches later. "Fine furniture factories rarely if ever use any grit finer than 150 to prep wood." Bob Flexner, "Understanding Wood Finishing". http://www.deftfinishes.com/professional/solving.html#one > 1. ADHESION – POOR ADHESION OF FILM > > a. Unclean surface-clean carefully with Deft Professional Fast Thinner (030 series). > b. Incompatible systems- always use manufacturer's recommended coating system. > c. Over sanding- never over sand your closed pore hardwoods, never use more then 150 grit. John H. Article: 325850 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <20r7n1l5fqoiueene5t7lukhupjihoetil@4ax.com> <9lcan1ho8pg76bn3jtu7pqoba048c43m9a@4ax.com> <1nian19pb5mm42iae1vqgnap14ofo3e4r2@4ax.com> <0embn192h872l2563v9kcovh7npeov6kr7@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Victor RE57 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 01:23:18 GMT Thanks Alan, Wonder how many are left? cant be that rare... but being big and heavy I doubt many were lugged around all these years! Keith > > >Any listing on an RE45? > >Im hoping to do mine this winter. > > 99,783 made list $275, intro May 1929 Article: 325851 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: " I THINK THE PAINT LOOKS COOL." Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:49:25 -0500 Message-ID: <11nd6tan9c1nf2b@corp.supernews.com> AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-ART-DECO-PHILCO-TUBE-RADIO-41-285-WORKS_W0QQitemZ6577861528QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem John H. Article: 325852 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "george conklin" References: Subject: Re: Frankenphonos, Crap-O-Phonos, etc Message-ID: <__wdf.8499$AS6.2526@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 01:51:54 GMT "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:LbudnaBvuuwZHevenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com... > If you have any interest in crank phonos, this was posted here a couple > years ago, I find it highly entertaining and informative, take a look... > > http://www.oldcrank.com/articles/crapophone/crap-o-phones.html > > Mark Oppat > > > The only people fooled by crapophones are people who see them for the first time and have no memory of 78s. I have seen such phonographs in London and other parts of the world. Sometimes they work well; other times no. They all seem to have beautiful horns, however, even if the horns are supported by flimsy connectors. It is too bad someone does not just sell the horns with fittings for Edisons and others, just like merchants used to sell horns for Edisons in 1900-1915. Sold like that, it would just be another optional horn, and a beautiful one too, kind of like a modern optional horn for an antique phonograph. Article: 325853 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <1131554247.099570.78690@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Motorola history site Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 01:53:55 GMT Devil's attorney... If you had new crap to sell and somebody bid against you with used, possibly your companies own used product, which you'd have no outlet to obtain or redistribute, you might not feel happy either. It sets a very bad precedent if the buyer is the gov't and even worse if you either couldn't come up with either it or reduce your existing stock's prices accordingly to counterbid. Perhaps you truly were lazy in this aspect and chose simply to not repurchase these items or institute a leasing system that would create this surplus. Perhaps there was an actual law that forbid OEM contractors to do this in a government bid. Perhaps you the small businessman find yourself in the middle of Motorola's need to keep larger contracts and remain more solvent, as any businees needs to do. As unfortunate as it may be, your bids are threatening to them and they have to act. I'll bet Moto wasn't doing well at the time, as they are always seeming to be, which is why many electronics corporations seem to want to shift out of direct production of many products, semiconductors usually being one. I understand why you are angry, and I'm not taking a position except to offer a theory or two in the hope you can find a better way to do the deal. Any illegalities have to be addressed with a return address and proper postage affixed, so to speak. "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:Gesdf.6340$QM5.1578@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > John Byrns wrote: > > Your SCO analogy was misleading, making it appear that you were talking > > about litigation related to patents or intellectual property, not > > misrepresentation of remanufactured radios. > > That was indeed to focus of the lawsuit. Copyright and Trade > Mark infringement. > > > I would think that a > > "repaired/used radio" is obviously "counterfeit" if it is being > > misrepresented as a new radio, or bid as such. Don't you think > > merchandise should be fairly represented for what it is? > > They were represented as USED with appropriate repairs etc.. > > They have a history of "taking care of" people that bid against > them to government agencies. > > Jeff > > -- > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325854 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <1131713035.149522.278960@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8Ocdf.1749$ZA3.366080@monger.newsread.com> <6Kldf.1772$ZA3.371018@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: Oooh, a death ray... Message-ID: <45xdf.1924$ZA3.384794@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 01:58:24 GMT I buy phones at the auction, and I don't do systems. Most of the business systems I see are Toshibas. I would recommend them. I do long distance, and there are lots of nice ladies with nice voices and an occasional guy on the other end, Been with them since day one (1986). "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:re2dnV4kyJhHjuvenZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > That's so odd. In 19 years, I've never had a hackle raised by AT&T. My > local > > co. and Qwest are NOT as lucky. > > You're fortunate. I've run into many people who detest AT&T for their > horrible customer service. In my case, I wanted to get my expensive Genesis > telephones serviced. > > "Sorry, parts are no longer available. Those phones are obsolete." > > How about a service manual? "It contains proprietary information." > > Get the disconnect (joke intended)? You can't see the service manual for an > obsolete product because it contains private AT&T information. > > Well, how about if I return the phone, and for the cost of the repair, you > send me a new, comparable phone. "No." > > My account manager at BMG once told me that friend who worked at AT&T had > gone out of her way to help a customer. When the customer sent a thank-you > letter, the friend's boss called her on the carpet for it. > > I do not do business with AT&T. They have no concern whatever for their > customers. I've done enough business with other companies that do to know > that my judgement is accurate. > > Article: 325855 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <29588-437611B4-505@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: OT: Flatulence Machine Goes Bersek Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:00:48 GMT I don't know anybody else in that area, and my bowels are perky. That what you wanted? "Ken G." wrote in message news:29588-437611B4-505@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net... > it began burping and muttering continuously, displaying without any > apparent provocation its full repertoire of mellifluous toots and > vibratos ``and garbage``. > > Sounds like you know who :-) > Article: 325856 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: Subject: Re: Serious Bidders Only (Auction Ended) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:03:13 GMT I know where I could just go and look at an AK anyday. That's 15 cents of gas. "Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:pYpdf.245$MN.3@fed1read07... > JUST FYI: Well the AK at e-bay > > Atwater Kent 1930ish Antique Console Beautiful Shape! $1,150.00 > > > Had no bidders > http://cgi.ebay.com/Atwater-Kent-1930ish-Antique-Console-Beautiful-Shape_W0QQitemZ6576359234 > > Guess that old guy whose folks had one -- didn't see the auction (;-) > -- > CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! > > > > > > > Article: 325857 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <11nar1gklet1nf6@corp.supernews.com> <29589-4376271E-133@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:06:40 GMT He can fix it. Shit, you want a prescription written or something to find a resistor. "Ken G." wrote in message news:29589-4376271E-133@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net... > He saves a LOT of time by using testing equipment, Ken. All experienced > techs do, > > I know John .. i know you think all i have here are books of matches and > a hammer . The only way to cure this is to visit in person . Words on a > screen are not working . > Some test equipment is needed in some situations , sure but the true > experienced tech can almost feel/smell many problems and have it fixed > before all those probes come out . > I agree you can get your alignment perfect with a S.G. Many times there > is no difference between 90% and 100% and i`m in no hurry :-) > > Article: 325858 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <11nd6tan9c1nf2b@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: " I THINK THE PAINT LOOKS COOL." Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:11:52 GMT Biiii itt und ficksss itt. I'll bet there are plenty of others goofy ill who have the same idea "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11nd6tan9c1nf2b@corp.supernews.com... > AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-ART-DECO-PHILCO-TUBE-RADIO-41-285-WORKS_W0QQitemZ6577861528QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > John H. > Article: 325859 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <11nd6tan9c1nf2b@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: " I THINK THE PAINT LOOKS COOL." Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:15:15 -0500 Message-ID: <4376a1bb$0$3767$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> .......ick. "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11nd6tan9c1nf2b@corp.supernews.com... > AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-ART-DECO-PHILCO-TUBE-RADIO-41-285-WORKS_W0QQitemZ6577861528QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > John H. > Article: 325860 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Manuel Labor" Subject: Re: Latin Fast House Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:32:57 -0600 Message-ID: <11nd9eub5ddpj78@corp.supernews.com> References: "Finally" wrote in message news:Pitdf.20915$7s1.11377@fe04.lga... > Juergen Hannappel wrote: > > Ken writes: > > > >> OK, I'll bite, what is a Latin Fast House? Ken > > > > Domus celer. > > Oh THAT helped!! > Whew!! Man, I thought it was just me who still has no clue. Article: 325861 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin" References: <11nd6tan9c1nf2b@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: " I THINK THE PAINT LOOKS COOL." Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 02:32:05 -0000 Message-ID: <4376a5a7$0$82659$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11nd6tan9c1nf2b@corp.supernews.com... > AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-ART-DECO-PHILCO-TUBE-RADIO-41-285-WORKS_W0QQitemZ6577861528QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > John H. > How's about adding http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6578246042 for a mismatched pair? Martin. Article: 325862 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: bridger@all.costs Subject: Re: Latin Fast House Message-ID: References: <11nd9eub5ddpj78@corp.supernews.com> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 19:45:46 -0700 On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:32:57 -0600, "Manuel Labor" wrote: > >"Finally" wrote in message >news:Pitdf.20915$7s1.11377@fe04.lga... >> Juergen Hannappel wrote: >> > Ken writes: >> > >> >> OK, I'll bite, what is a Latin Fast House? Ken >> > >> > Domus celer. >> >> Oh THAT helped!! >> > >Whew!! Man, I thought it was just me who still has no clue. shoulders> > well, in Latin, Domus is house (domicile) and celer is speed (accelerate) but this doesn't do anything to explain what the OP was talking about. then again, considering that this is usenet, we may never find out.... Article: 325863 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: I finally picked up a radio and threw it! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 03:28:49 GMT "Theresa McCarty" wrote in message news:ONqdnT2lJ87iOeveRVn-jg@qx.net... > > Well, i hope the other sets were watching. > LOL jim menning Article: 325864 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: Subject: Re: I finally picked up a radio and threw it! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 03:49:32 GMT "jim menning" wrote in message news:Rpydf.11071$tK.6160@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Theresa McCarty" wrote in message > news:ONqdnT2lJ87iOeveRVn-jg@qx.net... > > > > Well, i hope the other sets were watching. > > > > LOL > > jim menning Just don't hurt it bad and then feel remorse or go back and discover it's come to you and you broke it beyond use. Article: 325865 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <11nd9eub5ddpj78@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Latin Fast House Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 03:50:59 GMT Dashiel Hammett is long gone, pal. wrote in message news:m0adn190t3sfshvcvfbl03lab06ofqiodt@4ax.com... > On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:32:57 -0600, "Manuel Labor" > wrote: > > > > >"Finally" wrote in message > >news:Pitdf.20915$7s1.11377@fe04.lga... > >> Juergen Hannappel wrote: > >> > Ken writes: > >> > > >> >> OK, I'll bite, what is a Latin Fast House? Ken > >> > > >> > Domus celer. > >> > >> Oh THAT helped!! > >> > > > >Whew!! Man, I thought it was just me who still has no clue. >shoulders> > > > > > well, in Latin, Domus is house (domicile) and celer is speed > (accelerate) > > but this doesn't do anything to explain what the OP was talking about. > then again, considering that this is usenet, we may never find out.... Article: 325866 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <11nd6tan9c1nf2b@corp.supernews.com> <0sddn1hkrchd6vmagqop0vcjh1nfm9ate1@4ax.com> Subject: Re: " I THINK THE PAINT LOOKS COOL." Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 03:52:43 GMT "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:0sddn1hkrchd6vmagqop0vcjh1nfm9ate1@4ax.com... > On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 20:49:25 -0500, Hagstar > wrote: > > >AAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-ART-DECO-PHILCO-TUBE-RADIO-41-285-WORKS_W0QQite mZ6577861528QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > >John H. > > Still not as bad as the black/florescent orange one I found. > .... > Blacksmith Now you can start a disease therapy group as you have a scientific trend. Article: 325867 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: I finally picked up a radio and threw it! References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 22:47:47 -0600 gb wrote: > They get the last laugh ... they will still be here when you are dust. Not the last one (admittedly the first one) I air-mailed out the front door on a summer afternoon in 1974... URR-35 that was flaky from input to output - had repaired it a bunch of times - finally got my goat - out the door it went. Did about a half dozen bounce/flips - parts flying each time... I'm sure it's well recycled by now (i.e. rotted in the land fill). sometimes the benefit of such therapy out weighs the value of the radio... ;>) -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 325868 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Oooh, a death ray... References: <1131713035.149522.278960@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8Ocdf.1749$ZA3.366080@monger.newsread.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 04:50:50 GMT Brenda Ann wrote: > "We don't care. We don't have to. We're the phone company." > > - Lily Tomlin (as Ernestine) And from the movie _Crazy People_ with Dudley Moore as an advertising exec that's sort of lost it. At the end of the movie, there's a special commercial done by the woman he's met while in an asylum. "We're AT&T, and we're tired of taking your shit." Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325869 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: I finally picked up a radio and threw it! Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 21:43:12 -0700 Message-ID: <18798-4376C460-42@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: Oh ya !!! done that .. but no way it was fixable when i throw one :-) Article: 325870 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: WTB:RCA 621ts,721ts,630ts Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 05:09:03 GMT "news.cci.net" wrote in message news:dktdq5$3ro$1@nwnexus-news.nwnexus.com... > Send pixs and price. > Here's your chance. These don't go cheap. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6226134240 jim menning Article: 325871 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Alignment clarification needed. Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:09:08 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:uhhdn1l5t63v4o3a28q7fmgtouqjrjvs88@4ax.com... > When making trimmer adjustments for alignment, after peaking at 1500 > KC, the directions usually say to set the dial and generator at 600 > KC. Then they want you to adjust a padding capacitor for max. while > rocking the tuning cap back and forth. > > Here's what I don't get. Usually when I tune the dial to 600 KC, the > signal is not there. It's usually "down the road a bit". (My generator > is accurate at 600.) > > So, should I go to where I hear the sig. gen. and then adjust while > rocking the cap, or should I stay right on 600 on the dial and make > the signal come to it by turning the screw on the padding condenser, > then do the rocking thing? Is this a series pad? If so you would want to bring the dial into alignment with that, then go back to 1500 and adjust the trimmers for the high end, and just go back and forth till they match up. Article: 325872 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: I have a ghost Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 22:30:36 -0700 Message-ID: References: <29590-43760E8D-34@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:47:25 -0700, Ken G. wrote: > I remembered these .. Here in this house i had a little cat and one day > she never came home from being outside . > Later on one night while asleep i woke up with the distinct feeling of 2 > objects pushing on my chest and when i opened my eyes in the almost dark > room i saw the dark image of an animals head with sticking up ears . It > went away very shortly and i remember rubbing my chest where the objects > ( paws perhaps ) were and being a little spooked . > I told a friend of mine and she said that cat came back to say goodbuy > because she was dead . > My toughts on that were just some sort of dream . > We once had a cat who had a couple of kittens. They would play together but it was just for a few minutes and then they would wash or eat or sleep just like cats do. One night they were particularly active. They chased each other all over the house and they kept at it for a long time. The next day the mother cat was run over. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 325873 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "MIT" References: Subject: Re: I finally picked up a radio and threw it! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 05:33:00 GMT then i jumped up and down on it crumpling it into what it was meant to be-a piece of scrap metal.that was 1983 and i have never owned an s38 since. mit "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message news:Oxzdf.13482$kd.10118@bignews4.bellsouth.net... | gb wrote: | | > They get the last laugh ... they will still be here when you are dust. | | Not the last one (admittedly the first one) I air-mailed out the front | door on a summer afternoon in 1974... URR-35 that was flaky from input | to output - had repaired it a bunch of times - finally got my goat - out | the door it went. Did about a half dozen bounce/flips - parts flying | each time... I'm sure it's well recycled by now (i.e. rotted in the land | fill). | | sometimes the benefit of such therapy out weighs the value of the | radio... ;>) | -- | randy guttery | | A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews | so vital to the United States Silent Service: | http://tendertale.com Article: 325874 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: schematics needed Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 22:43:58 -0700 Message-ID: References: <6cjdf.15555$Hj2.14528@news-server.bigpond.net.au> On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:58:33 +0000, Luke Turner wrote: > > "philo" wrote in message > news:pan.2005.11.12.11.28.42.13907@privacy.net... >> >> >> told by the previous owner that it was working up to a few years ago, >> > then their son took a valve out and it of course, stopped working. >> > It has a very good cabinet for its age, approximately 1920 or so, no > chips >> > or scratches on the veneer, it has a small half crescent moon type of > dial >> > approximately 5" across numbered 0 - 100 right to left. >> > I would like to get this radio going if possible and would appreciate > any >> > help with circuit diagram and the history of the N.K.T. radio. >> > Thanks >> > Luke >> > VK3ALV >> >> >> it would help if you could give a lot more info... >> and also include a link to a good photo of the chassis > > Sorry, this is all the info I can get, there is no other indication on the > cabinet or chassis as to where the radio is made nor is there any circuit > diagram that used to accompany every radio and was stuck on the cabinet > somewhere, it seems the previous owners didn't like that piece of paper and > took it off. > I had thought the radio was made in Denmark, but a search hasn't come up > with anything. > I don't really want to take the chassis out of the cabinet if possible, but > if nothing comes out of my request, then I will. > I thought maybe with the name, there would be someone who would remember the > brand and as it is in completely original condition, almost showroom quality > apart from water stains on the top from a flower vase, I am a bit adverse > to taking it apart. > Thanks for your reply. > > Luke Can you tell us the types of tubes that are still there? Many radios had "standard" tube line-ups and we could make an educated guess at the missing one. Knowing the tube types would also let us get a better idea of when it was made and maybe even where it was made (at least what part of the world). -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 325875 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: Subject: Re: I finally picked up a radio and threw it! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:07:27 GMT "MIT" wrote in message news:geAdf.18229$Zv5.17308@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net... > then i jumped up and down on it crumpling it into what it was meant to be-a piece of scrap metal.that was 1983 and i have > never owned an s38 since. > mit One less chance for me to almost own a Hallicrafters...you better have hung it in effigy from the clothesline with chicken bones or my whole search for naught was useless. Article: 325876 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <29590-43760E8D-34@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: I have a ghost Message-ID: <2hEdf.1939$ZA3.387841@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:09:02 GMT Gee that made sense only in syncronicity for this thread, although it's very sad about mama kitty. "Jim Mueller" wrote in message news:pan.2005.11.13.05.30.36.209416@nospam.com... > On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 08:47:25 -0700, Ken G. wrote: > > > I remembered these .. Here in this house i had a little cat and one day > > she never came home from being outside . > > Later on one night while asleep i woke up with the distinct feeling of 2 > > objects pushing on my chest and when i opened my eyes in the almost dark > > room i saw the dark image of an animals head with sticking up ears . It > > went away very shortly and i remember rubbing my chest where the objects > > ( paws perhaps ) were and being a little spooked . > > I told a friend of mine and she said that cat came back to say goodbuy > > because she was dead . > > My toughts on that were just some sort of dream . > > > > We once had a cat who had a couple of kittens. They would play > together but it was just for a few minutes and then they would wash or eat > or sleep just like cats do. One night they were particularly active. > They chased each other all over the house and they kept at it for a long > time. > > The next day the mother cat was run over. > > -- > Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com > > To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. > Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 325877 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <11nd9eub5ddpj78@corp.supernews.com> <1131855713.712314.133540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Latin Fast House Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:14:53 GMT Ask the OP. We're apparently just running with the lovefest. Fashion is following one doofus around doing what they do until it looks and feels right, you reckon? Send it to the post office and see if it's a chain letter? You too replied to all these groups without bothering to remove them, and I think you can do that with a web archive browser not just Usenet. Try it. Peace out. "SueB" wrote in message news:1131855713.712314.133540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > WTF is this doing in alt.fashion? > > Sue > > "Clinton lied, but no one died." > Article: 325878 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <1131554247.099570.78690@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Motorola history site Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:16:43 GMT "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:uKCdf.6520$QM5.1931@tornado.socal.rr.com... > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > > Devil's attorney... > > The phrase you're looking for is "devil's advocate." No, attorney was good. Wordplay. I hope you've made up some ground after that nonsense though. > > > I understand why you are angry, and I'm not taking a position except to > > offer a theory or two in the hope you can find a better way to do the deal. > > Any illegalities have to be addressed with a return address and proper > > postage affixed, so to speak. > > After 18+ months of legal nonsense and investigation, it went to > trial. A jury found that the radios are NOT counterfeit. Nor is > it illegal to sell used products that have been repaired. > > Which is interesting, that's already been decided back in 1947. > Champion Spark Plugs went after a person for selling used spark > plugs. They (Champion) lost. > > Yet, they insisted on costing us about $100K to prove that we > have the right to repair and resell used radios. > > Jeff > > -- > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325879 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" References: <1131713035.149522.278960@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8Ocdf.1749$ZA3.366080@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: Oooh, a death ray... Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 10:18:14 GMT "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:KCzdf.1348$2k6.277@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > Brenda Ann wrote: > > "We don't care. We don't have to. We're the phone company." > > > > - Lily Tomlin (as Ernestine) > > And from the movie _Crazy People_ with Dudley Moore as an > advertising exec that's sort of lost it. At the end of the > movie, there's a special commercial done by the woman he's > met while in an asylum. > > "We're AT&T, and we're tired of taking your shit." > > Jeff Saw that one...it was funny if not a bit odd. Article: 325880 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Luke Turner" References: <6cjdf.15555$Hj2.14528@news-server.bigpond.net.au> Subject: Re: schematics needed Message-ID: <65Fdf.16430$Hj2.257@news-server.bigpond.net.au> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:04:34 GMT This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01C5E89E.3ADB6220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable "Jim Mueller" wrote in message = news:pan.2005.11.13.05.43.51.188044@nospam.com... > On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:58:33 +0000, Luke Turner wrote: >=20 > >=20 > > "philo" wrote in message > > news:pan.2005.11.12.11.28.42.13907@privacy.net... > >> > >> > >> told by the previous owner that it was working up to a few years = ago, > >> > then their son took a valve out and it of course, stopped = working. > >> > It has a very good cabinet for its age, approximately 1920 or so, = no > > chips > >> > or scratches on the veneer, it has a small half crescent moon = type of > > dial > >> > approximately 5" across numbered 0 - 100 right to left. > >> > I would like to get this radio going if possible and would = appreciate > > any > >> > help with circuit diagram and the history of the N.K.T. radio. > >> > Thanks > >> > Luke > >> > VK3ALV > >> > >> > >> it would help if you could give a lot more info... > >> and also include a link to a good photo of the chassis > >=20 > > Sorry, this is all the info I can get, there is no other indication = on the > > cabinet or chassis as to where the radio is made nor is there any = circuit > > diagram that used to accompany every radio and was stuck on the = cabinet > > somewhere, it seems the previous owners didn't like that piece of = paper and > > took it off. > > I had thought the radio was made in Denmark, but a search hasn't = come up > > with anything. > > I don't really want to take the chassis out of the cabinet if = possible, but > > if nothing comes out of my request, then I will. > > I thought maybe with the name, there would be someone who would = remember the > > brand and as it is in completely original condition, almost showroom = quality > > apart from water stains on the top from a flower vase, I am a bit = adverse > > to taking it apart. > > Thanks for your reply. > >=20 > > Luke >=20 > Can you tell us the types of tubes that are still there? Many radios = had > "standard" tube line-ups and we could make an educated guess at the > missing one. Knowing the tube types would also let us get a better = idea > of when it was made and maybe even where it was made (at least what = part > of the world). >=20 > --=20 > Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com >=20 > To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. > Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Thanks Jim for your reply. the valves are as follows. 1 x "80" 1 x "36" aluminum can shielded 2 x "39" 44 aluminum can shielded 1 x "38" 1 x unknown smaller valve about 4" high x 1" cant get it out of the = socket to see 1 x empty socket, could be a "38" but not sure, it is next to the socket with the "38" They are RCA Radiotron and Ken Rad valves =20 I think the numbers are right as my eyes are not what I would like them = to be Luke ------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01C5E89E.3ADB6220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
"Jim Mueller" <wrongname@nospam.com> = wrote in=20 message news:pan.2005.11.13.05.43.51.188044@nospam.com...
> On Sat, 12 Nov 2005 17:58:33 = +0000, Luke=20 Turner wrote:
>
> >
> > "philo" <philo@privacy.net> = wrote in=20 message
> > news:pan.2005.11.12.11.28.42.13907@privacy.net...
> >> <snip>
> >>
> = >> =20 told by the previous owner that it was working up to a few years = ago,
>=20 >> > then their son took a valve out and it of course, stopped=20 working.
> >> > It has a very good cabinet for its age,=20 approximately 1920 or so, no
> > chips
> >> > or = scratches on the veneer, it has a small half crescent moon type = of
> >=20 dial
> >> > approximately 5" across numbered  0 - = 100 right=20 to left.
> >> > I would like to get this radio going if = possible=20 and would appreciate
> > any
> >> > help with = circuit=20 diagram and the history of the N.K.T. radio.
> >> >=20 Thanks
> >> > Luke
> >> > VK3ALV
>=20 >>
> >>
> >> it would help if you could = give a lot=20 more info...
> >> and also include a link to a good photo of = the=20 chassis
> >
> > Sorry, this is all the info I can = get, there=20 is no other indication on the
> > cabinet or chassis as to = where the=20 radio is made nor is there any circuit
> > diagram that used to = accompany every radio and was stuck on the cabinet
> > = somewhere, it=20 seems the previous owners didn't like that piece of paper and
> = > took=20 it off.
> > I had thought the radio was made in Denmark, but a = search=20 hasn't come up
> > with anything.
> > I don't really = want to=20 take the chassis out of the cabinet if possible, but
> > if = nothing=20 comes out of my request, then I will.
> > I thought maybe with = the=20 name, there would be someone who would remember the
> > brand = and as it=20 is in completely original condition, almost showroom quality
> = > apart=20 >from water stains on the top from a flower vase, I am a  bit=20 adverse
> > to taking it apart.
> > Thanks for your=20 reply.
> >
> > Luke
>
> Can you tell us = the=20 types of tubes that are still there?  Many radios had
> = "standard"=20 tube line-ups and we could make an educated guess at the
> missing = one.  Knowing the tube types would also let us get a better = idea
> of=20 when it was made and maybe even where it was made (at least what = part
> of=20 the world).
>
> --
> Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com
>
>=20 To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz.
> = Then=20 replace nospam with sacbeemail.
 
Thanks Jim for your reply.
the valves are as follows.
 
1 x "80"
1 x "36"  aluminum can = shielded
2 x "39"
        44 =20 aluminum can shielded
1 x "38"
1 x unknown smaller valve about 4" high = x 1" =20 cant get it out of the socket to see
1 x empty socket, could be a "38" but = not=20 sure,
it is next to the socket with the = "38"
 
They are RCA Radiotron and Ken=20 Rad valves
       =
I think the numbers are right as my = eyes are not=20 what I would like them to be
 
Luke
------=_NextPart_000_00A7_01C5E89E.3ADB6220-- Article: 325881 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "N Cook" Subject: UK / USA Tool Terminology Translator Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 12:19:47 -0000 Message-ID: I can never find a translation file for converting commonly used terms for technical tools and equipment etc in the UK for the equivalent term used in the USA , or vice versa, often involves trade names. Plenty of sites mentioning equivalent car part names eg bumper : fender etc This is my start - please reply adding others or any possible errors. The list with any additions is/will be on http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/tool_terms.htm where there is mention of an active email address to contact me UK term : USA term Allen Key : hex key , hex wrench answerphone : answering machine Avo (meter, short for Avocet ) [old analogue multimeter ] : VTVM (vacuum tube voltmeter; usually line-powered) or a VOM (volt-ohmmeter; usually battery-powered) banana plugs : ? billion (before year 1974 ) : million million (the) box, telly, tv : television (set) Bulgin connectors : ? choc block connectors : ? earth [voltage reference] : ground elastic band, bungee cord : flex enameled copper wire : magnet wire engineer's persuader for percussive maintenance : knockometer flex : electric cord Gilbows : tinsnips Harwin connectors : ? Hellerman pliers ,(triple prong sleeving expanders) : ? imperial (measurements ) : inches,feet,yards,miles LOPT , Line Output Transformer (pronounced Lop-tee) : IHVT (Flyback Transformer) mains (power) [electricity supply company power feed ] : line (power) maths (mathematics ) : math Mega : insulation tester metric (measurements) : European mobile (phone) : cellphone, wireless, cellular phone Mole grips : lock jaw pliers, vice grips plug in power supply : wall wart power point : electric socket QM connectors : ? phono connectors : RCA connectors spanner : wrench scope (oscilloscope) : o'scope , waveform analyser Stanley knife : box cutter Stilsons : pipewrench thou (thousandth of an inch ): mil (measurement) trillion (before 1974 ? ) : million million million valve : tube Vero board : matrix board video : vcr (machine) white goods : appliances wireless : radio Article: 325882 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 08:42:17 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: UK / USA Tool Terminology Translator References: Message-ID: N Cook wrote: > This is my start - please reply adding others or any possible errors. > The list with any additions is/will be on > http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/tool_terms.htm > where there is mention of an active email address to contact me > > UK term : USA term > > banana plugs : ? > Bulgin connectors : ? This is kind of tricky. In the US we don't really have an equivalent to the Bulgin connector at least not by name anyway. Banana plugs seems to be the rough US equivalent to your Wander plugs. Not exactly the same, though. The smaller ones we simply call pins and pin jacks...mostly found on old VOMs or as headphone connectors on 1920's sets. Reaction = regeneration screening = shielding anti-clockwise = counter-clockwise high tension (HT) = high voltage (hv) pilewound (as in a coil) = scatterwound I still don't know exactly about perspex/paxolin etc = they have equivalents in the US but not sure which is which. Lucite, Plexiglas -Bill Article: 325883 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: " I THINK THE PAINT LOOKS COOL." Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 07:50:40 -0500 Message-ID: <11nedl6jfoirq72@corp.supernews.com> References: <11nd6tan9c1nf2b@corp.supernews.com> <1131859562.236397.169440@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Paul Dietenberger wrote: > . > > Seems like a handsome enough cabinet despite the mediocre guts. I'd > offer twenty bucks but I've had enough of painted cabinets for about > the rest of my life....... > I recapped a 41-285 like that one and found it an AMAZING performer. Collectors (I used to be one of them) frown on '39-42 sets due to their "oh my God, TV is coming, why bother!" Tinker Toy pie pan chassis build quality. Unfortunately in 1935 the evidentially didn't know squat about lead dress, oscillator design, etc. for shortwave ("throw a 6A8G in there, we have lots...."). These later twin triode Philco front ends are legendary among Caribbean DX'ers IIRC. John H. Article: 325884 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Alignment clarification needed. References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 08:08:41 -0500 And then go to 600 and do the rocking. This rocking aligns the rf and osc circuits to track and you can usually squeeze out a little more sens. by doing this. Also, a book I have says to rock the dial at the 1500kc end also, while adjusting the rf trimmers. Ken Brenda Ann wrote: > "Blacksmith" wrote in message > news:uhhdn1l5t63v4o3a28q7fmgtouqjrjvs88@4ax.com... > >>When making trimmer adjustments for alignment, after peaking at 1500 >>KC, the directions usually say to set the dial and generator at 600 >>KC. Then they want you to adjust a padding capacitor for max. while >>rocking the tuning cap back and forth. >> >>Here's what I don't get. Usually when I tune the dial to 600 KC, the >>signal is not there. It's usually "down the road a bit". (My generator >>is accurate at 600.) >> >>So, should I go to where I hear the sig. gen. and then adjust while >>rocking the cap, or should I stay right on 600 on the dial and make >>the signal come to it by turning the screw on the padding condenser, >>then do the rocking thing? > > > Is this a series pad? If so you would want to bring the dial into alignment > with that, then go back to 1500 and adjust the trimmers for the high end, > and just go back and forth till they match up. > > Article: 325885 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: CC-AWA Event Schedule Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:31:48 GMT The CC-AWA Event Schedule page has been updated for 2006. http://cc_awa.homestead.com/schedule.html Check it out if you're interested. Ron Article: 325886 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "N Cook" Subject: Re: UK / USA Tool Terminology Translator Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:46:01 -0000 Message-ID: References: "Bill" wrote in message news:c1379$437734ab$4232bd55$28048@COQUI.NET... > N Cook wrote: > > > This is my start - please reply adding others or any possible errors. > > The list with any additions is/will be on > > http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/tool_terms.htm > > where there is mention of an active email address to contact me > > > > UK term : USA term > > > > > banana plugs : ? > > Bulgin connectors : ? > > This is kind of tricky. In the US we don't really have an equivalent to > the Bulgin connector at least not by name anyway. > > Banana plugs seems to be the rough US equivalent to your Wander plugs. > Not exactly the same, though. The smaller ones we simply call pins and > pin jacks...mostly found on old VOMs or as headphone connectors on > 1920's sets. > > Reaction = regeneration > screening = shielding > anti-clockwise = counter-clockwise > high tension (HT) = high voltage (hv) > pilewound (as in a coil) = scatterwound > > I still don't know exactly about perspex/paxolin etc = they have > equivalents in the US but not sure which is which. Lucite, Plexiglas > > -Bill in UK perspex is glass like usually clear or translucent plastic paxolin is the old brown phenolic resin stuff of pcb boards of 1960s Article: 325887 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "N Cook" Subject: Re: UK / USA Tool Terminology Translator Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 14:58:40 -0000 Message-ID: References: "Bill" wrote in message news:c1379$437734ab$4232bd55$28048@COQUI.NET... > N Cook wrote: > > > This is my start - please reply adding others or any possible errors. > > The list with any additions is/will be on > > http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/tool_terms.htm > > where there is mention of an active email address to contact me > > > > UK term : USA term > > > > > banana plugs : ? > > Bulgin connectors : ? > > This is kind of tricky. In the US we don't really have an equivalent to > the Bulgin connector at least not by name anyway. > > Banana plugs seems to be the rough US equivalent to your Wander plugs. > Not exactly the same, though. The smaller ones we simply call pins and > pin jacks...mostly found on old VOMs or as headphone connectors on > 1920's sets. > > Reaction = regeneration > screening = shielding > anti-clockwise = counter-clockwise > high tension (HT) = high voltage (hv) > pilewound (as in a coil) = scatterwound > > I still don't know exactly about perspex/paxolin etc = they have > equivalents in the US but not sure which is which. Lucite, Plexiglas > > -Bill Don'y you call Catlin what we call Bakelite ? Article: 325888 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 11:10:24 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: UK / USA Tool Terminology Translator References: Message-ID: <8869e$43775763$4232bd55$636@COQUI.NET> N Cook wrote: > > Don'y you call Catlin what we call Bakelite ? > > Wouldn't that be Bakerlite :) Just kidding In the US versions of the words...They are made by a similar process but Catalin is done typically in colors and without filler material like Bakelite and under higher molding pressure. Hence its semi-translucent appearance. The Catalin buffs will be more than happy to point out additional details. Bakelite was actually the name of the company... and if I'm not terribly mistaken so was Catalin and they might have been affiliated, or the same outfit. Again, I'll defer to those who are up on that subject. Thanks for clearing up the paxolin/perspex question. In that case I think we would simply call paxolin as phenolic and perspex as plexiglas. -Bill Article: 325889 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Alignment clarification needed. Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 07:22:05 -0800 Message-ID: <5583-43775A1D-405@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: >So, should I go to where I hear the sig. >gen. and then adjust while rocking the >cap, or should I stay right on 600 on the >dial and make the signal come to it by >turning the screw on the padding >condenser, then do the rocking thing? >.... >Blacksmith Bear in mind that the padder adjusts the oscillator, not the RF. And it affects predominantly the low end (while a trimmer affects predominantly the high end). Therefore if you know your genny is accurate and outputting 600 kc, you would adjust the padder to make the dial reading "come to it". The operative word is "predominantly". The padder mainly affects the low end and `slightly` affects the high end. Whereas the trimmer mainly affects the high end and `slightly` affects the low end. This is why a few cycles of "rocking" the adjustments is needed to get everything spot on. Also, have you verified that the IF frequency is correct? If it's off, it will also affect the spread of the main dial. Bill(oc) Article: 325890 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: 2006 Charlotte Conference updates Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:29:42 GMT I've been updating the Charlotte Conference web pages. The Conference main page, Schedule page, Pre-reg page and the Old Equipment Contest page have been updated for 2006. You can get there from here, http://cc_awa.homestead.com/Charlotte.html Ron Article: 325891 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> <7-adnZU7CfjiUe_eRVn-gg@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Whats on your bench lately ? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 15:54:46 GMT Well - my caps finally came in, and I've been at the bench for hours last night and this morning replacing cracked, chewed ,and rotted wiring, and caps. This is the first radio I've seen where the mice actually chewed on the caps. I'll see if I can arrange the webcam for a closer view this morning. http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Jon "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:7-adnZU7CfjiUe_eRVn-gg@comcast.com... > Jon, > I didnt get that cap order... did you spend more $$$ in Canada? Still > waiting? hmm..... ;) > > Mark Oppat > Antique Audio > email for cap price flyer.... > Xicon, at lower prices !!! > > > "Jon" wrote in message > news:v%wcf.59896$Bv6.43924@twister.nyroc.rr.com... >> >> "Ken G." wrote in message >> news:11203-4371FEFA-7@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net... >> > Its been a while sence we did this . Those of you who are into radios >> > .. >> > whats your project now rather it be already made or home made . >> > >> >> On the bench waiting for my capacitor order to arrive: >> >> http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam >> >> >> -- >> Jon Scaptura >> Endicott, NY >> >> See my antique radios here: >> http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios >> >> >> > > > Article: 325892 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <1131875353.547388.34130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Heathkit Power Supply Message-ID: <7tJdf.7$rY5.4@fed1read04> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 09:03:46 -0800 completely MAD!!!!!! Who ever is working on his is totally out of their mind!!!! But it is amazing... "retroteckh" wrote in message news:1131875353.547388.34130@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > http://retrotech.ca/HeathkitPowSup.shtml/HeathKitpowSup.htm > Article: 325893 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Northe Osbrink Subject: Re: UK / USA Tool Terminology Translator References: Message-ID: <8xJdf.1103$c27.580@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 13 Nov 2005 16:07:32 GMT Here's a few corrections -- assuming I understand what you are doing. N Cook wrote: > > UK term : USA term > > Allen Key : hex key , hex wrench <- We use all three terms in the U.S. I tend to call them Allen wrenches > (the) box, telly, tv : television (set) <- TV is also widely used in the U.S. > elastic band, bungee cord : flex <-? not sure what you mean. If you are referring to Bungee cords, that's the same term we use. Perhaps you mean "rubber bands"? > enameled copper wire : magnet wire > engineer's persuader for percussive maintenance : knockometer <-(laughing) I use the term "service mallet," never heard of a knockometer > imperial (measurements ) : inches,feet,yards,miles > LOPT , Line Output Transformer (pronounced Lop-tee) : IHVT (Flyback Transformer) <- never heard of IVHT > Mega : insulation tester <-often called Megger in the U.S. > metric (measurements) : European <- We generally call them metric rather than European > mobile (phone) : cellphone, wireless, cellular phone > plug in power supply : wall wart <- that's a widely-used term, because they're such a nuisance. I think the "polite" term would be AC adapter. > phono connectors : RCA connectors <- I think the term phono connector is more used in the U.S. today, RCA connector is a bit old fashioned > spanner : wrench > scope (oscilloscope) : o'scope , waveform analyser <- A waveform analyzer is a different instrument. Most commonly used term is "scope" > Stanley knife : box cutter <- I think you mean what we call a "utility knife" (mine is made by Stanley) -- a box cutter is a push-out blade in a thin handle, but most people use utility knives to open boxes. > Stilsons : pipewrench > thou (thousandth of an inch ): mil (measurement) > trillion (before 1974 ? ) : million million million > valve : tube > Vero board : matrix board > video : vcr (machine) > white goods : appliances > wireless : radio Northe, N6KO