Article: 326591 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4386A930.1271B29B@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <8129-4385EA73-101@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 06:04:27 GMT xrongor wrote: > > sorry bill, i blocked this thread before. i dont know how this got through. > but i find your post highly offensive and ironic. > > american christians are the best funded, best equipped for war, most insane > fanatical religious group in the world. why? BECAUSE THEY ARE SURE THEY > ARE RIGHT. same as the 'other guys'. > > im blocking this again because its thanksgiving and im trying to stay calm. > > randy > > "xrongor" wrote in message > news:dm621b$c1u$1@news3.infoave.net... > > what a load of crap.... > > > > randy > > I find your view of Christians very perverted. Plonk. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 326592 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Mikael Carlsson Subject: Re: need grundig 1060 schematic Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 07:26:40 +0100 Message-ID: <3unp50F11r36rU1@individual.net> References: > Anyone have a Grundig 1060 service manual? Go to: http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/grundig_musikgeraet_1060.html Here you will find a schematic and service instructions. Sincerely, Mikael Article: 326593 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Is this factory original or a home-brew? Message-ID: References: <1132894623.735111.296620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 06:28:02 GMT Well, I zoomed up close on the photo of the dial, and there is NO FM band there. Has a 2.0 to 7 Mc band, and a 7 to 22 Mc band. The dial does look factory. I wonder if it is some kind of export or limited production model, and they simply used the case of an AM-FM set? I guess one could ask the seller if the bandswitch does in fact have 3 positions. If Zenith did in fact build the set as a shortwave radio, might they not well have used the T/O antenna, seeing as they had them on hand? I looked closely, and it seems that all the visible screwheads are slotted hexagon heads, which is what one would expect if the antenna mounting was a factory job. Doesn't absolutely rule out a home-brew conversion, but a homebrew job would likely use whatever screws were available to mount the antenna and its terminal. I'd bid on it, but the seller won't ship to Canada. Kind of goofy, that. If they purport to be a professional eBay seller, they ought to be able to manage the shipment of a small radio to Canada. It isn't rocket science. Gordon Richmond Article: 326594 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1132894623.735111.296620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is this factory original or a home-brew? Message-ID: <5HBhf.1549$mJ2.672@trnddc02> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 10:28:17 GMT Are you sure they won't ship to Canada? In one place they say they do and in another place they say they don't. -- Mike Schultz "Gordon Richmond" wrote in message news:d0bdo1tqf7th6261u61olanfca2db0sleb@4ax.com... > Well, I zoomed up close on the photo of the dial, and there is NO FM > band there. Has a 2.0 to 7 Mc band, and a 7 to 22 Mc band. The dial > does look factory. > > I wonder if it is some kind of export or limited production model, and > they simply used the case of an AM-FM set? I guess one could ask the > seller if the bandswitch does in fact have 3 positions. > > If Zenith did in fact build the set as a shortwave radio, might they > not well have used the T/O antenna, seeing as they had them on hand? I > looked closely, and it seems that all the visible screwheads are > slotted hexagon heads, which is what one would expect if the antenna > mounting was a factory job. Doesn't absolutely rule out a home-brew > conversion, but a homebrew job would likely use whatever screws were > available to mount the antenna and its terminal. > > I'd bid on it, but the seller won't ship to Canada. Kind of goofy, > that. If they purport to be a professional eBay seller, they ought to > be able to manage the shipment of a small radio to Canada. It isn't > rocket science. > > Gordon Richmond Article: 326595 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Secret Santa 2005 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 12:53:43 GMT If it's not too late, I've just stuck my hat into the ring -- things should get interesting . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:woqhf.46853$Hs.6597@tornado.socal.rr.com... > Last call people.... > The assignments go out this weekend. > > Santa's little helper. > > Lou deGonzague wrote: >> Jeff, I thought I saw a post on this a while back. Please update if it is >> still on this year, it was fun in the past. > > Yes, it's still on, here's the rules again... > > Yes indeed, it's that time again. Start now. Clear out that > odd pile of stuff under your bench that you can't force yourself > to drag out to the curb and send it to someone for Christmas > instead. ;-) > > Brenda, could you send me email? I still have your gift from > last year sitting on the shelf here. > > To everyone else. Here's the rules: > > Send me email with "Secret Santa '05" in the subject line. > Include a valid email address to contact you with, and a > valid shipping address. > > I'll stir up the hat and assign the givers and takers the day > after thanksgiving. > > Remember, don't forget to post here what you got. Try to keep your > responses under this subject thread. > > Thanks > > Jeff aka "Santa's little helper" > > and > > xrongor wrote: > >> is there some sort of target 'value' for this gift exchange? does >> it have to be a radio or just something that vaguely relates to them? >> >> randy > > > I'd like to say, "Let's not go nuts out there." So you don't > intimidate others. The short answer, give what you think is > appropriate. It really is the thought, not the price that > counts. As I'd said in the past, "Take a look under your > work bench" for something you think somebody else might want. > > But then there's the problem of some of the participants, > Alan Douglas comes to mind, has "trash" that exceeds the value > of some of my "treasures." > > Santa's little helper > > Jeff > > > -- > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. > Article: 326596 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Happy Thanksgiving? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 13:14:28 GMT This holiday season is, among other things, a time to reflect on what you have, the situation you're in, and the world around you. Not only do we give thanks, but we should pause and look at those less fortunate, and realize that "but for the grace of God, there go I." The year 2005 has been positively horrible! At the end of last year my wife lost her job at the courthouse. If you remember the Carlie Brucia murder, where the girl was abducted and caught on camera at a car wash, that was right around the corner from us. Thanks to a lot of political flap with the help of the news media, my wife lost her job at the courthouse even though she was totally uninvolved in the case. She has since picked up a job with much lower pay and benefits, and then I lost my job. So I decided to make a go of it with my radio business -- something I would not have wanted to do under the circumstances but was forced into. Then I was diagnosed with diabetes. My daughter had just moved away to an apartment with a friend, and her friend bailed -- leaving her with all the responsibility and a pile of crap to deal with -- she's a full time student and has two jobs to keep up. I can go on and on, but it seems like every day brought on new problems and we didn't have answers to the ones we already had. In any case, with a little adjustment and some medication I'm doing well -- the doctor is extremely pleased -- and although I've suffered through the summer months, right now business is red hot. My daughter found another apartment and a new job which pays well, in the line of work that she's studying. The future looks good; I've weathered some real storms and I feel I'm the better for it. So, in spite of some really rough times, I feel I have a lot to be thankful for and this has been one of the better holidays for me. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:dm3vma$p49$1@news2.kornet.net... > Let's all be thankful for all the good things in our lives. Once again, I > am thankful for my home, my family, and all the friends I have made, > including the ones here, and on other newsgroups. With so much to be > distressed about in these days, let us do our best to see the good, the > positive, the joy that is life itself. > > May you each be blessed with enough. > > Article: 326598 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 15:49:13 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Can't ID vintage electronics part. HELP!!! References: <1132947773.864398.38900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <164ba$43876aba$4232bda0$6311@COQUI.NET> Mick wrote: > Check out the last photo here: > > http://www.charlestonarea.com/Dickerson/ > > What is the greenish flying saucer thing on the left? > > Thanks, > Mick > Deja vu? Its still a bias cell. -Bill Article: 326599 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Save your world References: <438766ca$0$21267$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:32:10 GMT opiam@lbb-zzn.com wrote: > www.antollma.org - Who is the initiator of it all? AM: Antoll MA is its initiator. It’s the pseudonym which was given to me on 11 April 1975 by an extraterrestrial presence which I am still unable to name. Heh heh heh, I think somebody's pie tin is on too tight. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 326600 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <438766ca$0$21267$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Save your world Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 15:28:55 -0500 But if I -save- the whales, where do I -keep- them!? Article: 326601 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Save your world References: <438766ca$0$21267$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <0UKhf.21569$2k6.16563@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:56:28 GMT Buck Frobisher wrote: > But if I -save- the whales, where do I -keep- them!? They take up a LOT less space if you grind them up for mulch after harvesting the ivory and oil first. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 326602 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Save your world Message-ID: References: <438766ca$0$21267$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 22:13:39 GMT Keep 'em in the deep freeze. Yummy! I actually did have a meal of whale meat in Greenland. Had the taste and texture of beef liver, but a bit milder. Not bad at all. Gordon Richmond Article: 326603 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Pat Perkins Subject: Re: Can't ID vintage electronics part. HELP!!! Message-ID: <585fo19491oc6v3kj7tqpjov6q2k9non4d@4ax.com> References: <1132947773.864398.38900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <164ba$43876aba$4232bda0$6311@COQUI.NET> Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 22:50:18 GMT On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 15:49:13 -0400, Bill wrote: >Mick wrote: > >> Check out the last photo here: >> >> http://www.charlestonarea.com/Dickerson/ >> >> What is the greenish flying saucer thing on the left? >> >> Thanks, >> Mick >> > >Deja vu? > >Its still a bias cell. > >-Bill Bias Cell.......and thats an "unbiased Fact" Article: 326604 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: My holiday wish list! Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 08:01:12 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1132891105.180084.212750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Terry S" wrote in message news:1132891105.180084.212750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > With Thanksgiving digesting in the gut, my thoughts now turn to > Christmas and Hanukkah. OK, and Kwanza and... and....you get the idea. > > So I made up my wish list, maybe someone out there can make some of my > wishes come true. > > Please share your wish list too, maybe I've got some of your stuff. > > I wish for: > > 1. Tesla 308U chassis > 2. Predicta project > 3. Admiral bakelite TV project (would have to be local MN) > 4. Peace on earth ;-) > 1. Juliette 6 tube AM only table radio (wooden cabinet) 2. Longines Symphonette World Traveler (the ubiquitous model) in good shape 3. Tube tester 4. Pretty much any radio project 20's-50's. Article: 326605 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Joe Farkas Subject: Re: Power Supply Re-Wire... Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 18:47:08 -0500 Message-ID: References: <2d2dnSTEQazG5xrenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@athenet.net> On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:55:55 -0600, "philo" wrote: >ooops. yes, should have wrote secondary, one side of split secondary is open... I just hope the rest of the transformer works ok.. Article: 326606 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:22:31 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Can't ID vintage electronics part. HELP!!! References: <1132947773.864398.38900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4sGdnVWX1oyePhrenZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@qx.net> Message-ID: <42818$4387aac8$4232bd67$31793@COQUI.NET> Theresa McCarty wrote: > Now, I know what one looks like. Thanx! I may have just gotten a rig that > needs one. > > I know where you can find one...make that two. -Bill Article: 326607 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:24:07 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Power Supply for 6 Volt Radio References: <0cmdnVVXUpyOORrenZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@qx.net> Message-ID: Theresa McCarty wrote: > I just got a 6 volt farm radio that needs 6V and 1.5 amps... so for > experimental purposes only, I went and got a 6V lantern battery for <$5(US). > Anyway, the RS man said that, since the 12V recharcheable model could > put out 5A for 3 hrs [ or some such] that the 6V ought to be able to provide > 1.5A [ if not as much as 3A at a stretch] for some useful period of time. > Izzat right? > > What amp-hour rating does it say on the battery? -Bill Article: 326608 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:32:56 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Radio Backs - Loop Antennas - Signal Suppression References: Message-ID: <94075$4387ad3b$4232bd67$32648@COQUI.NET> Theresa McCarty wrote: > With guests and all... I briefly snuck off and tested 5 clock radio > backs with loop antenna I have obtained. They all definitely work better > than my randomly hung slinky. I'm gonna kludge them onto the backs of some > of my radios. > I attached only one wire to each, there being only one wire coming off > the backless AM radio. I have not researched interior connections or tuning > yet. > Now, with my hand out of the way, I get "X" signal [volume] level at one > foot from the radio [ antenna set vertically & perpendicular to AM 740 > Toronto, {{even if flat}}, but with hand present and holding a given back > against the rear of the radio cabinet [ not the chassis]... the signal drops > off. I have seen this before... I think. > What's going on? > ~~~Drooling in Lexington > > Two things. The loop antenna is the input rf coil for your first stage as its primary responsibility. The fact that it also picks up signals makes it double as a functional antenna. Without it you have zero front-end selectivity and a very poor match. Often the AVC voltage feeds thru the loop coil to the first tube as well. This is why a slinky won't work. Its also why one of those loops doesn't work very well in a radio set up to use a wire antenna...they already have an input rf coil inside. Your AA5 clock radios probably do not. So...since its part of a resonant circuit you are detuning it by putting your hand on it. Second, your hand screws up the radiation pattern of the loop...essentially causing it to lose its main lobe. -Bill Article: 326609 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <11oc3a87ktj5u56@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: An Old Dreadnaught "Phonocraft" Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 00:49:22 GMT If you buy it now for $3,000.00, maybe they'll throw in a mint to chew on while you're writing the check. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Ken" wrote in message news:farhf.42781$2k5.33189@dukeread09... > What's left is mint? Ken > > Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote: > >> Hagstar wrote: >> >>> A vessel for traveling through sound? >>> A fine example of the Phonocrafter Guild's work ? >>> >>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6582017002 >>> >>> John H. >>> >> >> "HAS TUBES MISSING AND ORIGINAL PHONOCRAFT ISN'T IN IT," yet it is in >> MINT condition. > Article: 326610 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: NEEDED: One knob for 7G065 bomber References: <1avhf.611310$tl2.218615@pd7tw3no> <20035-438731D2-230@storefull-3158.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 01:28:56 GMT Hi Jim, I have a junker 6G601ML universal, but the knobs are a little larger. I could use them, just trying to stay original. Jim Berg wrote: > You should be able to find one off a 41 or 42 universal portable set. My > bomber has tan color knobs that had been painted black. I think they are > original. The guy I bought my set from had just gotten it at a yard sale > that day, and it even came with the owners manual. > -- Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Article: 326611 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Smokey" Subject: Anyone know to to re-fuzz a turntable? Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:45:45 -0600 Message-ID: <11offih23sic13e@corp.supernews.com> I've seen so many crummy, homebrew jobs of old metal turntables that have had felt or velvet glued haphazardly to replace the original velvety covering. How were metal turntables velveted when they were manufactured? Anyone know? I'd love to learn the procedure to return my old turntables to their original former glory. Thanks! Smokey Article: 326612 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Rick Dasher Subject: Source needed for wire Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:46:25 -0500 I'm looking for a source for replacement solid core wire to replace the cracked rubber wiring in my Zenith 11S474. I'm also looking for a replacement dial pointer for the same. Thanks. Rick Dasher Zenith G500 TO Zenith 11S474 Philco 38-3 Philco 41-280 RCA 111K Article: 326613 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Source needed for wire Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:47:30 -0500 Try RadioDaze.com You could also use their stranded cloth wire. Not critical. Pete "Rick Dasher" wrote in message news:bbffo1lh3an3jv4j78hnaf6lnh87jd5s8d@4ax.com... > I'm looking for a source for replacement solid core wire to > replace the cracked rubber wiring in my Zenith 11S474. I'm also > looking for a replacement dial pointer for the same. > Thanks. > Rick Dasher > Zenith G500 TO > Zenith 11S474 > Philco 38-3 > Philco 41-280 > RCA 111K Article: 326614 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Anyone know to to re-fuzz a turntable? From: lherault@bu.edu References: <11offih23sic13e@corp.supernews.com> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 01:57:51 GMT Message-ID: <4387c06b$1_2@newsfeed.slurp.net> Are you talking about re flocking a turntable. this makes the entire turn table "fuzzy". Or are you talking about putting new felt on the topmost part of a turntable where the record goes? Ron L Article: 326615 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <438766ca$0$21267$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Save your world Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:28:33 -0500 "Gordon Richmond" wrote in message news:r03fo1510ed19oa5i039ursvf6dglbln25@4ax.com... > Keep 'em in the deep freeze. Yummy! > > I actually did have a meal of whale meat in Greenland. Had the taste > and texture of beef liver, but a bit milder. Not bad at all. > > Gordon Richmond Guess I'll never try that, 'cause I'm a vegetarian (i.e. I only eat vegetables). I've always wondered what a humanitarian eats... Article: 326616 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Happy Thanksgiving Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:16:18 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 05:49:08 -0400, Bill wrote: > Brenda Ann wrote: > >> Let's all be thankful for all the good things in our lives. Once again, I >> am thankful for my home, my family, and all the friends I have made, >> including the ones here, and on other newsgroups. With so much to be >> distressed about in these days, let us do our best to see the good, the >> positive, the joy that is life itself. >> >> May you each be blessed with enough. >> >> > Life is tough, Bren. You and S- know that more than I do. > If we are able to be here then we are fortunate. It could be much worse. > A very happy Thanksgiving to you and yours. > > Do you guys eat turkey over there in Korea? > > -Bill So far this thread has been pretty negative and I am sorry for all of the problems. However, not everything has been bad. I had my 40th high school reunion about a month ago. One of the class members took it upon himself to set up a web site for our class. Then he set up a Yahoo! group so we could all talk to each other. Other people searched for missing classmates. They found around 200 of them. They found me about a month before the reunion. The web site and Yahoo! group let us all get to know each other better before the reunion started. I saw people there that I haven't seen in 40 years. And I have been in email contact with some who couldn't make it that I haven't seen in that long either. So lets add to the list of things to be thankful for, all the people around us who make things go better for us, whether we know it or not. And that includes all the people in this group; you can almost always answer any question anyone may have. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 326617 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: My holiday wish list! Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:33:54 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1132891105.180084.212750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 21:35:44 -0700, Benjamaniac wrote: Ben, What do you mean by small? Terry, I'be got your Admiral bakelite TV. Unfortunately, it's in Arizona (and in pieces so it wouldn't ship very well) :( If you're ever out this way let me know. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. > I guess the only thing on my wish list this year is a small table > top bakelite or plastic case TV in restorable condition. I've always wanted > one of those but there aren't any around here to be had. > Ben > > > "Terry S" wrote in message > news:1132891105.180084.212750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> With Thanksgiving digesting in the gut, my thoughts now turn to >> Christmas and Hanukkah. OK, and Kwanza and... and....you get the idea. >> >> So I made up my wish list, maybe someone out there can make some of my >> wishes come true. >> >> Please share your wish list too, maybe I've got some of your stuff. >> >> I wish for: >> >> 1. Tesla 308U chassis >> 2. Predicta project >> 3. Admiral bakelite TV project (would have to be local MN) >> 4. Peace on earth ;-) >> >> Terry. >> Article: 326618 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: need grundig so390 schematic Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 04:42:30 +0100 Message-ID: References: alfonso lopez wrote: > anyone have the schematic of a grundig so390 console? > > i'm trying to restore it and the power supply is failing > > also i need the specifications of the power transformer this model is listed http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/grundig_so390_1.html maybe you ask there http://www.radiomuseum.org/dsp_forum_folder.cfm?folder_id=1 (try to ask in English language) Kind Regards Georg Article: 326619 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Is this factory original or a home-brew? Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:45:20 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1132894623.735111.296620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:07:54 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote: > > "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message > news:1132894623.735111.296620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... >> The dial looks factory but the antenna looks like a T/O unit tacked on. >> http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-ANTIQUE-ZENITH-STD-BOST-SHORT-WAVE-FM-RADIO-NR_W0QQitemZ6582762392QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >> > > Antenna is definitely an add-on. My question is.. the bandswitch only shows > Std. B'cst and FM100.. where's the access to the SW band? My guess is that someone cobbled it together from mismatched parts; the cabinet from an AM/FM set, the dial from an AM/SW set, the antenna from ? (note that the upper end is held in place by loops of wire running through the holes in the back cover), and the handle? I know there were some line operated radios with handles but it doesn't look right with that one. Who knows what is inside! -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 326620 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Power Supply Re-Wire... Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 20:56:20 -0700 Message-ID: References: <2d2dnSTEQazG5xrenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@athenet.net> On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 21:42:48 -0500, DaveM wrote: > "philo" wrote in message > news:2d2dnSTEQazG5xrenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@athenet.net... >> >> "Joe Farkas" wrote in message >> news:aqceo15khelk5qdudcurbtnpjqailh9i37@4ax.com... >>>I have an Air King 4604 that was a good performer until the hi-v >>> primary opened. >>> I was thinking of rewiring the supply as a full wave bridge with >>> either the original 6X5 as 1/2 of the bridge, and 2 silicon diodes as >>> the negative return. >>> Or just eliminate the 6X5 and go 4 diode bridge. >>> Keeping the 6X5 will slow the voltage built up on turn on, but the 4 >>> diode bridge eliminates the 2 amp filament draw, so less strain on an >>> already troubled transformer. >>> Suggestions? >> >> >> Was that a typo? >> did you mean secondary? and if so do you mean that one of the legs >> opened/ >> if so...just go with a bridge rectifier and forget the 6x5 entirely... >> just be sure to check your B+ voltage as there be less voltage drop >> with the silicon bridge and you may very well need a series dropping >> resistor >> > > I think you are putting the remaining secondary half in jeopardy if you use > a FWB on it. The transformer is rated to work into a center tapped FWB, > which means that the secondary only conducts for 50% of the power cycle. If > you make it conduct for both halves of the power cycle, you will likely > overheat it at best, burn it open at worst. > You really need to replace the transformer, or rewind the open secondary. > You might try running the remaining secondary half into a single rectifier > (half-wave rectifier), add a bit more filter capacitance, and see how that > works. Peak secondary current may still overheat it if you go overboard on > the filter capacitor, but it's safer than using a FWB rectifier. Actually, using a half wave rectifier would be a lot harder on it than using a bridge. Besides the higher peak and rms currents needed, it would also pass DC through the winding. This would tend to saturate the core and make the primary overheat as well. (I've tried using transformers with half wave rectifiers; they get plenty hot. To be successful, the transformer has to be designed for this type of service; it needs an air gap in the core. Or the current could be kept much lower than the normal rating, not an option in an existing radio.) The transformer is mostly toast anyway. Try it and see if it works. If it does you can defer the replacement for a while at least. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 326621 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Radio Backs - Loop Antennas - Signal Suppression References: Message-ID: <9pShf.3658$aA2.1586@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 05:29:41 GMT Theresa McCarty wrote: > With guests and all... I briefly snuck off and tested 5 clock radio > backs with loop antenna I have obtained. They all definitely work better > than my randomly hung slinky. I'm gonna kludge them onto the backs of some > of my radios. You can make a custom loop antenna that resonates with the tuning cap. The body of the tuning cap is *usually* the AVC line, so the "cold" side of the loop connects to it, and the "hot" side connects to the lug of the stationary plates the moving plates mesh into. It ain't that hard: I just made an antenna for a radio. I made it large to capture more signal out of the air. What to do: Get a spool of wire about a hundred feet long. Select wire without solder coating on it. Skin effect would force most of the RF current thru the solder, which has a higher resistance than copper, and that will kill the Q. Better yet if you have a supply of silver coated wire, usually done with Teflon wire (Teflon does bad things to copper, so the silver plating). Silver is a better conductor than copper, but as silver is much more expensive, everyone uses copper to wire their houses. Or use litz wire for the antenna if you happen to have some. Anyway, get some corrugated cardboard from that box your latest ebay win came in, and make a coil form. Cut an odd number of notches one every 2 inches or so. You will wind the wire in a basket weave pattern. This basket wave pattern needs the odd number of notches or else it won't work out. That reduces stray interwinding capacitance. You have seen this done in older AA5 antennas. I made one about 15 inches by 11 inches. It took about 17 turns. But be prepared to add or remove turns or fractions thereof. Smaller size loops will need more turns. Tune the radio the antenna is for to a weak station near the bottom of the band, like 570KHz. Connect the inner wire of your antenna to the "hot" part of the antenna tuning cap, and the outer wire to the AVC "RF ground". Use a high impedance voltmeter to monitor the AVC voltage. Add or remove turns of wire from your antenna to peak the signal strength of that station selected above. A few solder joints in the antenna won't hurt anything as long as you can't get shorted turns. You can have a few feet of wire between the antenna and AVC line as you're tweaking the antenna. You are actually adjusting the antenna inductance to resonate it to the tuning cap. After you get the peak, tune up to a station around 1500KHz and tweak the antenna trimmer cap. If you did the basket weave pattern, you should be able to get a peak. The radio should be more sensitive now. Check that strong stations are not distorted or causing intermod in the band. Now you're done. Article: 326622 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: Re: Anyone know to to re-fuzz a turntable? Message-ID: <1i2go1lqt90su8nmn55kbdv3ict43vf1ek@4ax.com> References: <11offih23sic13e@corp.supernews.com> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 07:01:20 +0000 if you are talking about "flocking" the turntable, look at woodworiking stores like Rocklers - they sell a flocking kit. Or just do a web search for flocking On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:45:45 -0600, "Smokey" wrote: >I've seen so many crummy, homebrew jobs of old metal turntables that have >had felt or velvet glued haphazardly to replace the original velvety >covering. How were metal turntables velveted when they were manufactured? >Anyone know? I'd love to learn the procedure to return my old turntables to >their original former glory. Thanks! > >Smokey > Article: 326623 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: Subject: Re: Source needed for wire Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 07:36:53 GMT Go to Radioshack! They have solid wire, with insulation that resembles rubber. The stuff is cheap, but I think you have to first dip the part of the wire you're soldering in denatured alcohol and apply flame to the exposed wire before soldering. Omer "Rick Dasher" wrote in message news:bbffo1lh3an3jv4j78hnaf6lnh87jd5s8d@4ax.com... > I'm looking for a source for replacement solid core wire to > replace the cracked rubber wiring in my Zenith 11S474. I'm also > looking for a replacement dial pointer for the same. > Thanks. > Rick Dasher > Zenith G500 TO > Zenith 11S474 > Philco 38-3 > Philco 41-280 > RCA 111K Article: 326624 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: My holiday wish list! Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 05:03:04 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1132891105.180084.212750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Jim, By small I mean one of those '40's looking TV's that had about a 7" screen....kinda boxy looking...almost look like a radio with a oscope CRT stuck in it. Ben "Jim Mueller" wrote in message news:pan.2005.11.26.03.33.49.458414@nospam.com... > On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 21:35:44 -0700, Benjamaniac wrote: > > Ben, > > What do you mean by small? > > Terry, > > I'be got your Admiral bakelite TV. Unfortunately, it's in Arizona (and in > pieces so it wouldn't ship very well) :( If you're ever out this way let > me know. > > > -- > Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com > > To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. > Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. > > > >> I guess the only thing on my wish list this year is a small table >> top bakelite or plastic case TV in restorable condition. I've always >> wanted >> one of those but there aren't any around here to be had. >> Ben >> >> >> "Terry S" wrote in message >> news:1132891105.180084.212750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >>> With Thanksgiving digesting in the gut, my thoughts now turn to >>> Christmas and Hanukkah. OK, and Kwanza and... and....you get the idea. >>> >>> So I made up my wish list, maybe someone out there can make some of my >>> wishes come true. >>> >>> Please share your wish list too, maybe I've got some of your stuff. >>> >>> I wish for: >>> >>> 1. Tesla 308U chassis >>> 2. Predicta project >>> 3. Admiral bakelite TV project (would have to be local MN) >>> 4. Peace on earth ;-) >>> >>> Terry. >>> > Article: 326625 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Biasi" References: <1132989109.383755.31560@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OOPS! String broke on my Zenith Transoceanic H500 Message-ID: <0HYhf.3748$Un7.1029@fe12.lga> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 07:38:21 -0500 "Doug" wrote in message news:1132989109.383755.31560@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >I have NO experience with repairs, but I went ahead and tore the radio > down. Its now in about a dozen pieces on the kitchen table. > Any helpful advice would be very much appreciated. > Try here: http://www.transoceanic.nostalgiaair.org/h-500.htm Tom Article: 326626 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <4716-43809F30-122@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Amazing Sparton Nocturnes Auction -Sage_Sparton_Nocturne#D4173... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:52:48 GMT I suppose if I really wanted to, I could build some sort of glass table, mirror, or any other piece of "art" and put a couple of speakers in it -- then install a stereo PCB with remote control and have a real Jim-Dandy curiosity. Come to think of it, Bang & Olufsen has come up with some interesting units on that scale. I suppose any one of us could build a radio/stereo/video system in the form of some fancy artwork, but the value would depend on just how it looks and what its appeal would be to potential buyers. People have bought these; would they buy yours? Indeed, somebody had the imagination to build such a radio, and it obviously appealed to some. Of course it's not the AM radio inside that's worth anything, nor even the mirrors, but the originality of being a famous design. Today I'm sure someone could build an imitation with better components, as has been done with several models (although I question the better components), but it would never be worth the same as the original. Trust me -- if somebody GAVE me one of these Nocturnes in perfect condition, what would I do with the darn thing? It would look pretty silly in my living room or bedroom, and I'm sure my stereo sounds a lot better; I'd sell or auction it off, and breathe a great sigh of relief when it's gone. But please don't let my personal feeling detract from its value. It is indeed a work of art and a valuable radio. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Ken G." wrote in message news:4716-43809F30-122@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net... >A round table top turned sideways with a radio poking out of it for 50 , > 60 grand .. emagine that . > Sorry guys , gals .. its a blue mirror on end with a console radio > behind it . I dont like it much or get the hype . I know its some form > of art etc.. > You could have something like that made for far less . > Article: 326627 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <11obqpqeee3hg09@corp.supernews.com> <11ocnt92d2qoec9@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: HUH? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:02:28 GMT Simply this: if these radios are so problematic and difficult to work on, it's obvious that a fully restored, functional radio would go for this much! That's been my opinion of Blaupunkt car radios (I'm talking about 50's and 60's, not the new ones). These things go for boo-koo bucks, and although the electrical design is good, the components are crap and they're a real mess to service -- unless you get your jollies from grinding off rivet heads. They're valuable because it's so hard to find one that works. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "graham" wrote in message news:wvOdnVutYp9Y4xveRVn-jw@comcast.com... > > "Hagstar" wrote in message > news:11ocnt92d2qoec9@corp.supernews.com... >> >> >> Lou deGonzague wrote: >>> Please explain. >> >> I thought it well known Peter is the most vocal and persistent Philco >> hater here. He says frequently that they have bad sound and are poorly >> built. The 89 in fact has sometimes been called the Radio From Hell to >> repair. >> >> John H. > > > .. So what does that have to do with a value of an eBay auction? > after all, you and Peter are only expressing your opinion .. ... > Article: 326628 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1132947773.864398.38900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Can't ID vintage electronics part. HELP!!! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 13:58:04 GMT All right, now you've got MY interest up . . . What the heck is a bias cell? And DON'T say it's a green thingie that looks like a flying saucer! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Mick" wrote in message news:1132947773.864398.38900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Check out the last photo here: > > http://www.charlestonarea.com/Dickerson/ > > What is the greenish flying saucer thing on the left? > > Thanks, > Mick > Article: 326629 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <0cmdnVVXUpyOORrenZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@qx.net> Subject: Re: Power Supply for 6 Volt Radio Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 08:25:01 -0600 Message-ID: <43886d7c$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> "Theresa McCarty" wrote in message news:0cmdnVVXUpyOORrenZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@qx.net... > I just got a 6 volt farm radio that needs 6V and 1.5 amps... so for > experimental purposes only, I went and got a 6V lantern battery for > <$5(US). > Anyway, the RS man said that, since the 12V recharcheable model could > put out 5A for 3 hrs [ or some such] that the 6V ought to be able to > provide 1.5A [ if not as much as 3A at a stretch] for some useful period > of time. > Izzat right? The long-story-short answer: If you paid less than five bucks for a lantern battery at Radio Shack I'm thinking it's a carbon-zinc heavy-duty battery. It'll run the set for a little while but you won't get more than a couple hours' play time from it. That's an expensive way to run the set. Okay for troubleshooting and demos but if you want to listen to the set you're going to have to come up with an AC supply for it, I think. That, or find a lead-acid 6V battery somewhere. Good luck paul Article: 326630 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:42:25 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Can't ID vintage electronics part. HELP!!! References: <1132947773.864398.38900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <33ea2$43887453$4232bd23$26132@COQUI.NET> Gary Tayman wrote: > All right, now you've got MY interest up . . . > > What the heck is a bias cell? > > And DON'T say it's a green thingie that looks like a flying saucer! > > > Its a battery. -Bill Article: 326631 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:44:23 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Help! Need to identify this vintage electronics part in Dickerson References: <1133012058.382390.113450@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Mick wrote: > Hello all, > > First time poster. The guys in the amps group are stumped, and someone > recommended I post here. Something about there being more > ancient...er...mature...experienced technical people here. ;-) > > I have this old Dickerson guitar amp and cannot find anyone who knows > what this saucer-shaped part is. It is connected to the input jack, > which makes me think it is some sort of capacitor. However, resistance > measures infinity. > > Any help? > > See the part here (third large photo down the page): > > http://www.charlestonarea.com/Dickerson/ > > Many thanks, > Mick > Since this is the third posting of this question in 24 hours methinks our communal chain is being yanked or the poster's machine is stuck in the "no receive" mode. -ex Article: 326632 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Help! Need to identify this vintage electronics part in Dickerson References: <1133012058.382390.113450@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:58:12 -0500 OK, OK, it IS a small flying saucer. Ken Mick wrote: > Hello all, > > First time poster. The guys in the amps group are stumped, and someone > recommended I post here. Something about there being more > ancient...er...mature...experienced technical people here. ;-) > > I have this old Dickerson guitar amp and cannot find anyone who knows > what this saucer-shaped part is. It is connected to the input jack, > which makes me think it is some sort of capacitor. However, resistance > measures infinity. > > Any help? > > See the part here (third large photo down the page): > > http://www.charlestonarea.com/Dickerson/ > > Many thanks, > Mick > Article: 326633 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1132947773.864398.38900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <33ea2$43887453$4232bd23$26132@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Can't ID vintage electronics part. HELP!!! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:10:55 GMT Okay . . . what gets me is not the fact that this is a battery, but that a battery is installed underneath a tube socket, in that it is a non-user-replaceable part. I suppose it's not unlike the CMOS battery in this computer, except that I didn't think they were around back then. Does it somehow recharge during usage? Would a certain size bias resistor and an electrolytic do the same job? I would assume so, as most amps don't use these cells. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Bill" wrote in message news:33ea2$43887453$4232bd23$26132@COQUI.NET... > Gary Tayman wrote: >> All right, now you've got MY interest up . . . >> >> What the heck is a bias cell? >> >> And DON'T say it's a green thingie that looks like a flying saucer! >> >> >> > Its a battery. > > -Bill Article: 326634 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1132947773.864398.38900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <33ea2$43887453$4232bd23$26132@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Can't ID vintage electronics part. HELP!!! Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 10:20:39 -0600 Message-ID: <43888897$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net> "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:jO%hf.1364$Hk1.418@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Okay . . . what gets me is not the fact that this is a battery, but that a > battery is installed underneath a tube socket, in that it is a > non-user-replaceable part. I suppose it's not unlike the CMOS battery in > this computer, except that I didn't think they were around back then. > Does it somehow recharge during usage? No. The current draw is so low that it wasn't expected to need to be replaced during the life of the set. Sometimes even now they're still found to be good. Sometimes you can drill a little hole in it and add water to recharge it. >Would a certain size bias resistor and an electrolytic do the same job? I >would assume so, as most amps don't use these cells. Perhaps, or small new batteries. Article: 326635 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1132427995.725858.248190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1132428498.442582.261960@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: The Rarest Atwater Kent Breadboard? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:27:27 GMT Actually, I like the idea of "Tayman Electrical" continuing the name that was conceived in the early 1920's, having to do with a radio shop. However at the time, this was a store that sold Edison Mazda light bulbs, radio tubes, wire, and related items as the bread-and-butter products. They also sold light fixtures, chandeliers, vacuum cleaners, fans, and of course the hot new product of the day, radios. The featured brands were Atwater-Kent, Silver Marshall, and Crosley. Today the name has a problem of being more associated with an electrical contractor. People who find my name through the Chamber of Commerce ask if I deal with residential or commercial. So I've thought about changing the name to "Tayman's Radio Shoppe" or Tayman's Collector Car Audio." However I don't want to deal with changing the business license, but if a ficticious name alone will let me use it, I might -- just haven't decided how to do it yet. The Silver Marshall name surprises me to an extent. First off, you seldom hear the name when talking vintage radio. You hear Philco, Crosley, Fada, National, and a host of almost-obscure names, but rarely do you hear Silver Marshall. I had to look in the Rider's just to see if they existed, to make sure my Dad wasn't pulling my leg! To this day I know nothing about where they came from, where they went, how long they were in business, or how good the radios were. However more recently (1980's) I do recall seeing some products with the Silver Marshall name! These were typically things like portable stereos with a fold-up turntable, etc., that you might buy at K-Mart. Obviously some Japanese-built device with the name slapped on the give it the appearance of having some sort of heritage. This fact alone would lead me to believe that the name has been re-registered, but I guess not. Maybe I'll use it! -- Gary E. Tayman/Silver Marshall Radios Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Phil B" wrote in message news:Mq6dnYs1IeBlnhneRVn-qg@comcast.com... > This is all very interesting, but confusing. I searched for the names you > listed. Silver Marshall is available. Fada is owned by a China company. > Trav-ler is now owned by a toothbrush company. > > I also searched for "Classic Car Radio Service". There was one hit for a > place in California, but it was listed as "dead", so it may be available > as a trademark. > > I also searched a Pennsylvania website and found that the only way you can > protect your business name is to incorporate. I don't know anything about > other states, but I assume something similar applies. If there are no > businesses that have incorporated with the name "Classic Car Radio > Service", you should be free to use it. If the Michigan outfit is > incorporated under that exact name, then you can't use it. If they are > incorporated under a slightly different name or they are not incorporated > at all, then you could use the name legally. Maybe they just make a lot of > noise and threaten other businesses with lawsuits. If you sleuth around a > bit, you may be able to determine if they really have a legal leg to stand > on. > > Phil B > > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:d20gf.184$A23.173@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> Hmmmm . . . >> >> Does anybody want to take a stab at the others? >> >> I suppose Philco is still around somewhere; Zenith is alive and well in >> name only thanks to Lucky Goldstar, but what about Grunow, Federal, >> Silver Marshall, Fada, Midwest, Sentinel, Pilot, or Trav-ler? Possibly >> one of use could pick up an old name and do something more legitimate >> with it. >> >> When I first started doing business with car radios, I thought about >> using the name "Classic Car Radio Service." Dan Schulz of AAR quickly >> informed me that there indeed was a Classic Car Radio in Michigan, and >> they were quick to go after anyone else trying to use the word "Classic" >> in their name. (One day the owner died and the business dissolved, and >> someone else picked up the name very quickly) So I asked my dad what the >> name was of "Grandpop's" radio store in DC, and he told me "Tayman >> Electrical." >> >> Indeed I have some who think I'm an electrical contractor, and I've >> thought about changing the name slightly to clarify this. However I can >> certainly use the name Tayman, and truthfully say that the radio shop >> first opened in the early 1920's. >> >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> >> >> "Phil B" wrote in message >> news:sbudnSOAHfxWsR3enZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> This is fascinating. Apparently this guy latched on to the Atwater Kent >>> trademark when it was available. >>> >>> The link you posted doesn't work. I went through the search and found >>> this page: >>> http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=toc&state=3lfkl9.1.1&p_search=searchss&p_L=50&BackReference=&p_plural=yes&p_s_PARA1=&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA1%24LD&expr=PARA1+AND+PARA2&p_s_PARA2=Atwater+Kent&p_tagrepl%7E%3A=PARA2%24COMB&p_op_ALL=AND&a_default=search&a_search=Submit+Query >>> >>> It looks like another individual tried to get the trademark from June >>> 16, 1999 (filing date) to December 14, 2000 (abandonment date). >>> Abandonment date? What's that all about. There is no registration date >>> shown, so maybe it wasn't granted, or he pulled out. >>> >>> The current owner filed on February 26, 2002, and got it registered on >>> May 17, 2005. The owner is shown as: >>> (REGISTRANT) Leveillee, Michael D. DBA J.F. Sullivan Co. INDIVIDUAL >>> UNITED STATES 14 Clarendon Road Auburn MASSACHUSETTS 01501. >>> >>> It looks like this enterprising individual latched on to the trademark >>> because it wasn't registered to anyone else! My hat's off to him! He has >>> the legal rights to sell anything under the Atwater Kent name! What I am >>> puzzled by is that the trademark was available. >>> >>> Phil B >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message >>> news:1132428498.442582.261960@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... >>>> Here's the trademark registration. Wonder how he got permission to use >>>> AK moniker? >>>> http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/gate.exe?f=doc&state=i9fakb.3.1 >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > Article: 326636 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: Can't ID vintage electronics part. HELP!!! Date: 26 Nov 2005 16:31:02 GMT Message-ID: References: <1132947773.864398.38900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <33ea2$43887453$4232bd23$26132@COQUI.NET> "Gary Tayman" (gtayman@gate.net) writes: > Okay . . . what gets me is not the fact that this is a battery, but that a > battery is installed underneath a tube socket, in that it is a > non-user-replaceable part. I suppose it's not unlike the CMOS battery in > this computer, except that I didn't think they were around back then. Does > it somehow recharge during usage? Would a certain size bias resistor and an > electrolytic do the same job? I would assume so, as most amps don't use > these cells. > It's a voltage source, not a current source. Drain should be about the same as if the battery is not connected. It supplies a negative voltage to the grid of a tube. A separate battery was used because it was easier to wire in a battery than generate a negative voltage. Remember, these are the days of battery power. Once you have AC going in, obviously you could rectify it and get an negative DC voltage. But of course, a different design often eliminated the need for an explicit bias voltage. Though, and I can't remember what it was, circa 1971 I'm sure there was some construction article in the ARRL Handbook that featured a soldered in bias battery. Michael Article: 326637 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: eye tube sub question Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:35:29 GMT Try these links: http://www.radiomuseum.org/forum/converting_an_em11_to_a_6e5c.html http://www.radiomuseum.org/forum/em34.html http://www.antiqueradios.com/chrs/journal/eyetube.html http://home.pacbell.net/philbert/tuning_eye/tun_eye.htm Perhaps not a direct answer to your question but these links should get you closer. pp "David" wrote in message news:g-2dnW3VyKgClRXenZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@adelphia.com... > Rather than spend $40 for an EM85, how difficult would it be to sub an > EM80 or a 6DA5? > The 6DA5 has the same pattern. I think the EM80 is closer in specs. Both > are well under $10. > I realize I would have to rewire the socket. > Any ideas? > Dave > Article: 326638 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: OT: and they say WE'RE crazy.. Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:39:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1132758805.902826.274730@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132767737.332989.181160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132870986.142860.113520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In <1132870986.142860.113520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "toxcrusadr" writes: >Tim Mullen wrote: > Like you're the only one who thinks Phoebe >> Legere's cute! :) :) >Uh..never heard of 'er... She played your love interest in Toxic Avenger II. Sheesh! http://tinyurl.com/bhdza -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326639 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: Source needed for wire Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:41:20 GMT "Rick Dasher" wrote in message news:bbffo1lh3an3jv4j78hnaf6lnh87jd5s8d@4ax.com... > I'm looking for a source for replacement solid core wire to > replace the cracked rubber wiring in my Zenith 11S474. I'm also > looking for a replacement dial pointer for the same. > Thanks. > Rick Dasher > Zenith G500 TO > Zenith 11S474 > Philco 38-3 > Philco 41-280 > RCA 111K If it is not cloth wire (radiodaze.com) then try the 300 or 600v rated wire at Lowe's or Home Depot. It is stranded but that will not make a functional difference to your repair. You will find it on small spools red, black and white, in a plastic wrappers. An electrical supply house should have other colors of 600 volt insulation rated wire. DO NOT use "primary wire" for autos. PP. Article: 326640 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Laura Marshallsay" Subject: RCA Victor Orthophonic Hi-Fi Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:05:44 GMT I've had my RCA hi-fi for about 7 years now and although the speed is slow on the 45 and 33 rpm, the 78s played great...until now. I haven't used it for a while, and when I turned it on today it was very slow. I suspect it needs lubricating. Does anyone know where the lubrication points are? Failing that, does anyone know a good restorer/repair person in the Baltimore area? Thanks so much! --Laura Article: 326641 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: Is this factory original or a home-brew? References: <1132894623.735111.296620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <3B0if.21499$i7.16307@bignews2.bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 11:08:46 -0600 Jim Mueller wrote: > On Fri, 25 Nov 2005 14:07:54 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote: > > >>"AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message >>news:1132894623.735111.296620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... >> >>>The dial looks factory but the antenna looks like a T/O unit tacked on. >>>http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-ANTIQUE-ZENITH-STD-BOST-SHORT-WAVE-FM-RADIO-NR_W0QQitemZ6582762392QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >>> >> >>Antenna is definitely an add-on. My question is.. the bandswitch only shows >>Std. B'cst and FM100.. where's the access to the SW band? > > > My guess is that someone cobbled it together from mismatched parts; the > cabinet from an AM/FM set, the dial from an AM/SW set, the antenna from ? > (note that the upper end is held in place by loops of wire running > through the holes in the back cover), and the handle? I know there were > some line operated radios with handles but it doesn't look right with that > one. Who knows what is inside! > That hole in the middle of the back looks like where some sets have screw terminals for external FM antenna...looks empty on this one. I'd say Frankenradio.... Article: 326642 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: A Restoration Project Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 12:19:57 -0500 My gawd! It has BARNACLES on it!!! "Carl WA1KPD" wrote in message news:w_2dnZ6mfoGUwxXenZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com... > item number 7368855559 > > -- > Carl > WA1KPD > Visit My Boatanchor Collection at > http://home.comcast.net/~chnord/wa1kpd.html > > > Article: 326643 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Roger Blake Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:54:00 GMT In article <1132689585.958313.13190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Peter Wieck wrote: > several stripes. Which do you _honestly_ think is worse? All of the libs carping about Bush and Iraq would have a lot more credibility if they had done similar carping during Clinton's military adventures. As I recall, the silence from the Left was deafening when the Stainmaster General was busy invading and/or bombing countries that had not attacked us. I don't particularly care for Bush, but honestly believe Clinton was worse. For starters, thanks to him, Osama was left free to pursue his plans against us and the North Korean loonies have atomic weapons. The fact that he could not keep it in his pants is just icing on the cake. -- Roger Blake (Subtract 10 for email.) Article: 326644 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:29:53 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Is this factory original or a home-brew? References: <1132894623.735111.296620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1133029949.154374.154010@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <3bfa4$4388b7b4$4232bd2a$17821@COQUI.NET> Jeff, WB8NHV wrote: > The telescoping whip antenna could be for the SW band, though this is > the first Zenith table radio I have ever seen with such an antenna, so I had a 6G038 table model with a stock telescoping antenna. At least, I recall it being original. The set was an AC/dc thing in a big wooden cabinet but it dated back to the 40s. The chassis wasn't much larger than a TO chassis but it was in a huge impressive looking cabinet about 24" wide. > Another thing I found interesting about this radio is that it tunes the > old 42-49 MHz FM band, rather than the 88-108 MHz band used today. I don't see FM at all on the dial of set? For the curious, Zenith seemed to always mark the dial for 'their' FM station which was 99.9 or something, hence the FM 100 designation. This practice continued into the early 60s. > Just goes > to show how little many people actually know about the items they sell > on ebay. I'm not convinced one way or the other on this radio. They did have some bakelite table models in the era with shortwave coverage...and of course that dial had to come from somewhere even if the original case got busted and someone kluged it into a 725-series cabinet that is so ubiquitous. I lean towards thinking its for real...and wouldn't mind having it...but $44 shipping to my QTH isn't acceptable. -Bill M Article: 326645 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <11offih23sic13e@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Anyone know to to re-fuzz a turntable? Message-ID: <8y2if.35337$gK4.1100667@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 14:18:24 -0500 "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:wdmdnY3O6_gYBBXenZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@sigecom.net... > In the old days the particles of flocking were electrostatically charged > and shot onto the glued metal platter. It provided a dense surface with > the particles standing on end. I have no idea how it was specifically done > though. > Wish I did.... > > Bruce I WONDER IF BILL TURNER OR HIS SON STILL DOES THAT? Article: 326646 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Power Supply for 6 Volt Radio From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <0cmdnVVXUpyOORrenZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@qx.net> <43886d7c$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> Message-ID: <3Q2if.363036$084.347929@attbi_s22> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 19:37:35 GMT In article <43886d7c$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net>, pdieten@NyOaShPoAoM.com says... > > >if you want to listen to the set you're going to have to come up with an >AC supply for it, I think. That, or find a lead-acid 6V battery somewhere. > >Good luck >paul > > Lawnmower Batteries and perhaps some Motorcycle Batteries are 6 volt wet cells. Add an elcheapo 6 and 12 volt battery charger.... run charger when your NOT trying to listen to the radio. John k9uwa Article: 326647 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Anyone know to to re-fuzz a turntable? Message-ID: References: <11offih23sic13e@corp.supernews.com> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:06:30 GMT Back in the '50s, there used to be big ads on the back cover of magazines like Mechanix Illustrated touting the huge profits to be made in flocking this, that and everything. Gordon Richmond Article: 326648 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: rca 128 References: <1133028755.196261.126170@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:28:09 GMT I don't have a knob but I do have the factory service manual on a pdf. Let me know if you want me to email you a copy. I don't think these ever had a back. omen wrote: > Hi folks, I'm brand new to this group and in fact this is my first > time in any group. > I just bought an RCA 128 shoulder tombstone radio at the flea this > morning and > I'm really excited to get it working. It's missing one knob, the > tuning knob, and also the back cover. I plan on keeping this and so > would probably be willing to buy a wreck of one > just for parts. Any leads would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > Omen > Article: 326649 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "YT" References: Subject: Re: AWA Contest- Caution Message-ID: <3G3if.2291$Y%5.161@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 20:35:11 GMT >members only event HA HA HA my ass! No such thing on the ham bands. "Carl WA1KPD" wrote in message news:iLedna3pm_G1PxXeRVn-tg@comcast.com... > To those of you who were planning to join the AWA CW contest over the next > two weekends be aware that it is a members only event. I just learned so > today. Be careful not to intrude and work someone.(see emails below) > > I will be testing out my new Hartley and look forward to anyone else > (Member or not) who want to communicate with Old Time rigs.I will try not > to intrude upon their contest frequencies > > This is in no way a shot at Marc who was kind enough to point out the > rules to me. > > As a former (for no particular reason) member who has attended the > Rochester meet I have listened to the complaints about AWA over the last > few years and not thought much about them one way or the other. But I now > do see why people complain that they act as an exclusive group. > > Yes, I know I could join again and play in the sandbox the next two > weekends, but to be honest I'm not sure I care to anymore. > > > From: Carl Nord [mailto:chnord@comcast.net] > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 12:11 PM > To: 'antiquewirelessassociation@yahoogroups.com' > Subject: RE: [AWA] Contest > > Marc, > > In all sincerity, thank you for the clarification as well as the others > who were kind enough to fully respond to my question. There certainly were > some rather unhelpful initial responses. > > I will continue to finish my HB Hartley this weekend but will make sure > (as a former member) that I abide by the AWA rules and endeavor not to > intrude on the frequencies and work any of the AWA members. > > That being said I will be on the air next weekend and perhaps some of the > other non- AWA members might like to pick a frequency to exercise our OT > equipment? > > Carl > WA1KPD > Visit My Boatanchor Collection at > http://home.comcast.net/~chnord/wa1kpd.html > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: antiquewirelessassociation@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:antiquewirelessassociation@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of MARC > ELLIS > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 11:53 AM > To: antiquewirelessassociation@yahoogroups.com > Subject: RE: [AWA] Contest > > Hello all-- > > I've seen the recent queries posted about the AWA 1929 QSO party. > > I guess I should jump in and try to clear this up, though I have no > official connection with the AWA ham contests. > > Our new AM QSO party, being chaired by Gary Carter, is the only one open > to all hams. The other contests, including the 1929 QSO party, are open to > members only. > > The only reason you will find the dates of the QSO party on our web site > is that we had to correct the wrong dates that were accidentally sent to > the Journal and printed there. Frequencies, times, scoring info, etc are > in the Journal but never posted on the site for obvious reasons. > > Logs are sent out by contest chairman John Rollins only to previous > participants or members who are newly applying for them. > > Friends, this is a public service announcement only. I definitely don't > want to get involved in discussions about the right or wrong of this, nor > would it be appropriate for me to do so. Suffice it to say that John and > the AWA have very good reasons for restricting the contest , though I can > also see the other side of the questrion. > > Marc Ellis, N9EWJ > Editor, The AWA Journal > > > Article: 326650 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: AWA Contest- Caution Message-ID: <1T3if.2204$1x.2138@fed1read06> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:49:26 -0500 "Carl WA1KPD" wrote in message Hey Carl Let's see some photos of that Hartley rig!! Pete Article: 326651 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1133038928.875322.308650@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Transoceanic H500 power up problem Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:22:04 -0500 "Doug" wrote in message news:1133038928.875322.308650@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Last night the dial tuner string broke on my H500. I fixed it today, > put the radio back together, plugged it up, and turned on the switch. I > hear nothing from the speaker, not even static. It's just dead! > Anyone have an idea what I need to do at this point? > I've only had this radio for a few days and its worked just fine up til > now. > Any pertinent advice would be enormously appreciated. > Doug > Is there a battery switch--or was that the model where you plugged in the AC plug to the chassis to transfer to DC battery pwr? Antenna connectors back in the sockets? Make sure the tubes are fully seated, and don't pull them with the power on, it can blow the filaments. Pete Article: 326652 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1133028755.196261.126170@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: rca 128 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:23:21 -0500 "Theresa McCarty" wrote in message news:u8mdnec_PaZlURXenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@qx.net... > I find 'dusting' an enjoyable pastime. Tubes and dial scales can lose > 'graphics' if wetness is used. > By the time ya finish dusting, ya've found out about loose, broken parts, > cabinet cracks, rust, stiff wiring [power cord], disassembly, retaining > screws, critters, and, yes, even how to operate the device! > > Come over and dust my collection. It needs it. No Pledge, though. Article: 326653 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: A Restoration Project Message-ID: <2C4if.2207$1x.711@fed1read06> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:39:35 -0500 "Carl WA1KPD" wrote in message news:w_2dnZ6mfoGUwxXenZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com... > item number 7368855559 > > Here's a matching companion: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6580333840 Article: 326654 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Help! Need to identify this vintage electronics part in Dickerson Amp Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 15:24:25 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1133012058.382390.113450@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133042116.645256.253710@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> is this kind of the tube equal of countering the .6ishV drop in a transistor? randy "nesesu" wrote in message news:1133042116.645256.253710@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Mick, that is a Mallory "Bias cell". In the view shown the top is the > negative, the bottom 'cup' side [black] is the positive. You can > replace it with a watch battery if you make a plastic holder, or > install a single AA cell holder and use an alkaline AA cell. Just be > sure to get the polarity correct. > > Neil S. > Article: 326655 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: <1T3if.2204$1x.2138@fed1read06> Subject: Re: AWA Contest- Caution Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:24:16 -0600 "Carl WA1KPD" wrote in message news:NfidnVS0VcHbUhXeRVn-iQ@comcast.com... > Will do when it is finished. I am using a mil surplus VT-127AZ. About the > oddest looking triode I have ever seen > > -- > Carl > WA1KPD > Visit My Boatanchor Collection at > http://home.comcast.net/~chnord/wa1kpd.html Hi Carl. How have you been? Any other good vintage finds lately? -- Regards B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 326656 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Help! Need to identify this vintage electronics part in Dickerson References: <1133012058.382390.113450@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133042116.645256.253710@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <4w5if.28069$4l5.24446@dukeread05> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 17:41:18 -0500 This negative voltage changes the operating point on the grid/plate curve, puts it on the linear section. Ken xrongor wrote: > is this kind of the tube equal of countering the .6ishV drop in a > transistor? > > randy > > "nesesu" wrote in message > news:1133042116.645256.253710@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > >>Mick, that is a Mallory "Bias cell". In the view shown the top is the >>negative, the bottom 'cup' side [black] is the positive. You can >>replace it with a watch battery if you make a plastic holder, or >>install a single AA cell holder and use an alkaline AA cell. Just be >>sure to get the polarity correct. >> >>Neil S. >> > > > Article: 326657 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Power Supply for 6 Volt Radio Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 08:28:49 +0900 Message-ID: References: <0cmdnVVXUpyOORrenZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@qx.net> <43886d7c$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:43886d7c$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net... > "Theresa McCarty" wrote in message > news:0cmdnVVXUpyOORrenZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@qx.net... >> I just got a 6 volt farm radio that needs 6V and 1.5 amps... so for >> experimental purposes only, I went and got a 6V lantern battery for >> <$5(US). >> Anyway, the RS man said that, since the 12V recharcheable model could >> put out 5A for 3 hrs [ or some such] that the 6V ought to be able to >> provide 1.5A [ if not as much as 3A at a stretch] for some useful period >> of time. >> Izzat right? > > The long-story-short answer: > > If you paid less than five bucks for a lantern battery at Radio Shack I'm > thinking it's a carbon-zinc heavy-duty battery. It'll run the set for a > little while but you won't get more than a couple hours' play time from > it. That's an expensive way to run the set. Okay for troubleshooting and > demos but if you want to listen to the set you're going to have to come up > with an AC supply for it, I think. That, or find a lead-acid 6V battery > somewhere. > > Good luck > paul I've found that the 5 volt supply section of most old computer power supplies does a dandy job of running a 6 volt car radio. The filtering is very good on those (it has to be), and can more than handle the current needs of any 6 volt equipment you want to play with. Article: 326658 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Zenith Transoceanic H500 power up problem Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 08:39:27 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1133038928.875322.308650@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1133044779.340105.320800@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1133045744.159666.233150@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "Doug" wrote in message news:1133045744.159666.233150@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > CORRECTION: The radio DOES warm up, on the chassis in the area where > the power cord goes in to it. > But, no glowing tubes, no sound from the speaker. > Could I have a faulty speaker? > Doug The tubes won't light very brightly. You can just see the filament inside the 1U4 that's closest to the back if you look up into the tube from below. If you've never worked on the power supply on this radio, I would tend to suspect that the selenium rectifier has developed a high resistance short. You will still get heating of the resistors that attach to it, but there won't be adequate voltage to run the radio, and what there is will have a huge AC component to it. Other things to look for are component leads that have possibly gotten pushed up against other leads, causing a short. You can check your tubes to make sure they are still continuous by using a digital or analog ohmmeter across pins 1 and 7 of each tube (out of circuit). These are the two pins that are widely separated on the tubes. Article: 326659 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Radio Backs - Loop Antennas - Signal Suppression References: <9pShf.3658$aA2.1586@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <5C6if.35548$DL6.11289@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 23:55:45 GMT So Bob, is your loop then in parallel with the existing ant coil secondary? That's assuming you are talking about a radio that used a long wire to begin with. robert casey wrote: > Theresa McCarty wrote: > >> With guests and all... I briefly snuck off and tested 5 clock >> radio backs with loop antenna I have obtained. They all definitely >> work better than my randomly hung slinky. I'm gonna kludge them onto >> the backs of some of my radios. > > > You can make a custom loop antenna that resonates with the tuning cap. > The body of the tuning cap is *usually* the AVC line, so the "cold" side > of the loop connects to it, and the "hot" side connects to the lug of > the stationary plates the moving plates mesh into. > > It ain't that hard: > > I just made an antenna for a radio. I made it large to capture more > signal out of the air. What to do: Get a spool of wire about a hundred > feet long. Select wire without solder coating on it. Skin effect would > force most of the RF current thru the solder, which has a higher > resistance than copper, and that will kill the Q. Better yet if you have > a supply of silver coated wire, usually done with Teflon wire (Teflon > does bad things to copper, so the silver plating). Silver is a better > conductor than copper, but as silver is much more expensive, everyone > uses copper to wire their houses. Or use litz wire for the antenna if > you happen to have some. Anyway, get some corrugated cardboard from that > box your latest ebay win came in, and make a coil form. Cut an odd > number of notches one every 2 inches or so. You will wind the wire in a > basket weave pattern. This basket wave pattern needs the odd number of > notches or else it won't work out. That reduces stray interwinding > capacitance. You have seen this done in older AA5 antennas. I made one > about 15 inches by 11 inches. It took about 17 turns. But be prepared to > add or remove turns or fractions thereof. Smaller size loops will need > more turns. Tune the radio the antenna is for to a weak station near the > bottom of the band, like 570KHz. Connect the inner wire of your antenna > to the "hot" part of the antenna tuning cap, and the outer wire to the > AVC "RF ground". Use a high impedance voltmeter to monitor the AVC > voltage. Add or remove turns of wire from your antenna to peak the > signal strength of that station selected above. A few solder joints in > the antenna won't hurt anything as long as you can't get shorted turns. > You can have a few feet of wire between the antenna and AVC line as > you're tweaking the antenna. You are actually adjusting the antenna > inductance to resonate it to the tuning cap. After you get the peak, > tune up to a station around 1500KHz and tweak the antenna trimmer cap. > If you did the basket weave pattern, you should be able to get a peak. > The radio should be more sensitive now. Check that strong stations are > not distorted or causing intermod in the band. Now you're done. Article: 326660 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2005 21:29:17 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Is this factory original or a home-brew? References: <1132894623.735111.296620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1133029949.154374.154010@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <3bfa4$4388b7b4$4232bd2a$17821@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <5c5d3$43890bf0$4232bd1a$20319@COQUI.NET> Bill wrote: > > I lean towards thinking its for real.. Where's Scott Harvey? He has the H517T shortwave model http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/h517/h517-1.jpg and had done some digging about on other Zenith shortwaves. -Bill Article: 326661 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: Zenith Transoceanic H500 power up problem References: <1133038928.875322.308650@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:35:37 GMT One problem I had with one radio I was working on, I had the correct voltages on all the tube pins, but no sound. It turns out that the headphone jack needed to be cleaned. When you plug in a pair of headphones, the speaker gets disconnected. If the contacts in the headphone jack get dirty or bent a little, you have no audio. Doug wrote: > Last night the dial tuner string broke on my H500. I fixed it today, > put the radio back together, plugged it up, and turned on the switch. I > hear nothing from the speaker, not even static. It's just dead! > Anyone have an idea what I need to do at this point? > I've only had this radio for a few days and its worked just fine up til > now. > Any pertinent advice would be enormously appreciated. > Doug > -- Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Article: 326662 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: AWA Contest- Caution References: <3G3if.2291$Y%5.161@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 01:46:54 GMT YT wrote: > >members only event > HA HA HA my ass! > No such thing on the ham bands. > That's right, any body can work any body else, but only AWA members can submit logs for scoring in the contest. Who cares about the score, get on the air and have FUN. 73, Ron Article: 326663 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Curious hum in Zenith 7H822. Message-ID: <4d5io1tjncodnq5tahrua8js47aitmkage@4ax.com> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 02:27:31 GMT So I'm in the midst of recapping this 7H822 Bakelite table set. It's a 7 tube AC/DC AM/FM set with a selenium rectifier. When I first got it, I plugged it in briefly, heard a moderately loud hum the instant it was turned on, and turned it right off again. I figured the selenium rectifier might be shot. So I got into recapping it, and I'm about halfway through, with mostly the caps around the front end of the set left to do. A couple under the output tube were really toast. Anyway, I decided that, having replaced some of the obviously bad caps, I'd give it an interim test. Plugged it in, turned on the switch; there's that same hum, instantly. Disconnected the selenium rectifier, and removed it from the chassis. Hum's still there. Unplugged the output tube; hum's still there. I can measure about 0.8 VAC across the primary of the output transformer while it's humming. One other thing; it seems that the heater of the 12AU6 second IF tube is open. Could this be the cause of the hum? I brought this radio and a stack of parts to the jobsite with me to work on during slow times, but I neglected to bring a spare 12AU6, which I'm sure I have one of. I guess I'll carry on and replace the remainder of the caps, anyway. I may get flamed for this, but I've found that rather than attempt to unsolder and unfold the leads of the old caps from the tube sockets or terminal lugs, it's easier to cut them a tad long, then form a sort of a sleeve in the end of the lead for the new cap by winding it around the lead of one of the old caps used as an arbor. Three or four tightly-wound turns. Slip it over the stub of the old lead, give a bit of a squeeze with needle-nose pliers, and solder. Result is mechanically and electrically secure, and not too conspicuous. I think it does less violence to the set than all the struggling to remove a tightly-wrapped and soldered OEM connection. Gordon Richmond Article: 326664 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "COLIN LAMB" References: <1T3if.2204$1x.2138@fed1read06> Subject: Re: AWA Contest- Caution Message-ID: <%O9if.1603$Hk1.721@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 03:34:19 GMT Hi Carl: The VT-127A is a good tube. It was a repackaged Eimac 100TL for radar use. Just more filament current. They were cheap after the war, but got sidetracked because the 304TL was also cheap and ran more power. Love to see a photo when you get done as I have a few sitting in storage that belong in a rig. 73, Colin K7FM Article: 326665 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Curious hum in Zenith 7H822. References: <4d5io1tjncodnq5tahrua8js47aitmkage@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 05:11:56 GMT > > I may get flamed for this, but I've found that rather than attempt to > unsolder and unfold the leads of the old caps from the tube sockets or > terminal lugs, it's easier to cut them a tad long, then form a sort of > a sleeve in the end of the lead for the new cap by winding it around > the lead of one of the old caps used as an arbor. Three or four > tightly-wound turns. Slip it over the stub of the old lead, give a bit > of a squeeze with needle-nose pliers, and solder. Result is > mechanically and electrically secure, and not too conspicuous. > > I think it does less violence to the set than all the struggling to > remove a tightly-wrapped and soldered OEM connection. > That's what I always do. Terminals on switches, tube sockets, IF transformers etc are somewhat fragile and not designed to take the stress of undoing soldered on leads. Article: 326666 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "hawaiijim" Subject: Re: Wanted to buy Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:18:37 +0100 Message-ID: <6b8d3c5f6e9200b0ec3c89e21ca32b65@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: <20050125110251.13387.00000206@mb-m27.aol.com> hey Dan, I have a rca 710v2 without tubes. I don't know if it works. I am looking for a needle for a rp210. tdmsrf@yahoo.com Article: 326667 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: AWA Contest- Caution Message-ID: <3sgio1l379j41f47697ggtahdbmprumf6d@4ax.com> References: <1T3if.2204$1x.2138@fed1read06> <%O9if.1603$Hk1.721@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 05:30:23 GMT Colin, Are you familiar with a VT-832? I think I've correctly remembered the number. It's a large, squat, button-base tube which appears to be a dual triode, with two plate terminals on the top. I've got couple of them, seem to be NOS. By large, I mean large compared to most button-base tubes. About the diameter of an 807, but much shorter. Gordon Richmond Article: 326668 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Curious hum in Zenith 7H822. Message-ID: References: <4d5io1tjncodnq5tahrua8js47aitmkage@4ax.com> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 05:44:38 GMT Well, I solved the mystery. Someone was definitely in there before me, and they miswired the .01 uF cap across the primary of the output transformer. Instead of returning the cap to B+ (as per the schematic) they returned it to the AC side of the rectifier, hence the "instant-on" hum. I made an error in my original post when I referred to the 12AU6 as second IF. It's the FM limiter tube. I temporarily jumpered across pins 3 and 4 on its socket, and warmed up the set, with a silicon diode replacing the selenium. Terrible hum from a bad filter cap, but a little reception on AM. I pulled the filter can out of the chassis (looks like an old-time replacement itself), and managed to get the dead guts out of the can. Re-stuffed it with a 40-40 by 150 I had on hand, and replaced it in the chassis. Original was 80-40 by 150 volts. I powered the set up again, once more jumpering across the heater pins of the dead 12AU6. No hum, and excellent AM reception on several stations, not bad considering I'm in an aluminum-sided wellsite shack. I think I'll quit while I'm ahead, and finish the re-cap job at home, where I'm sure I have an extra 12AU6. Thanks to Robert, Philo, and Neil for their thoughtful responses. Gordon Richmond Article: 326669 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: NTSC pattern DVD's + extra Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:13:45 +0900 Message-ID: Still have these NTSC pattern DVD's available for the same price ($5 including shipping). Discs have the following: Grey Raster 5:00 Red Raster 5:00 Green Raster 5:00 Blue Raster 5:00 Dots 10:00 Crosshatch 10:00 Color Bars 10:00 Grey Scale 10:00 Also: For an extra dollar, I will throw in copy of a newly made HQ-DVD Indian Head test pattern. This is a full hour of test pattern. These don't have a lot of utility for setup, other than height/width/linearity adjustments, but they are fun just to play on your old television while showing it off.. a bit of television nostalgia. If you want the Indian Head DVD by itself, I'll sell it separately for $2.50 postpaid Article: 326670 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Biasi" References: <1132989109.383755.31560@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1133039667.128540.117750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OOPS! String broke on my Zenith Transoceanic H500 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 05:56:19 -0500 "Doug" wrote in message news:1133039667.128540.117750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > OK, I fixed the string problem today, thanks to the WalMart crafts > department. Now the dial works better than ever. However - after I put > the radio back together, it will not power up. > Suggestions, anyone? > Doug > Hi Doug, Make sure all the tubes are in the right position and check the changeover switch. Did it work before you took it apart? Tom Article: 326671 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: OOPS! String broke on my Zenith Transoceanic H500 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 07:37:21 -0800 Message-ID: <11348-4389D2B1-401@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> References: <1133039667.128540.117750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Doug, In a darkened room, you should be able to see the faint glow of the filament in at least one tube. If so, this indicates all the tubes' filaments are drawing current, since they're in series. Since the filament string is powered from the B+ supply, this also indicates B+ is present (good). Have you checked the wiring to the speaker? And does it go thru a headphone jack? This is the first place I'd look if the tube filaments are lighting. Here's a good webbie on the H500- http://oak.cats.ohiou.edu/~postr/bapix/H500_2.htm Bill(oc) Article: 326672 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: <7eydnSVxKOgJJRTenZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Cunningham 301A Info Sheet Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 15:54:48 GMT Larry Fowkes wrote: > I recently purchased a NOS Cunningham CX-301-A complete with its' > original box and packing for my tube display that I am putting > together. However the information sheet that was packed with these > tubes was not included. Would anybody have a scan of this sheet they > could share? Remove the "x" from my address, larry@lfowkesx.com for > the correct email, or post on the binaries, whatever is most > convenient. > > Thanks in advance > > Larry Fowkes Larry, go to my site, click on 'must have', near bottom page 'The Cunningham Radio Tubes Manual'. It's in Djvu format if you need a page in pdf just ask. -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 326673 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Anyone know to to re-fuzz a turntable? Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 08:58:19 -0700 Message-ID: <28497-4389D79B-153@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: I had the need to do this once and talked to Bill about it . All he does/did was put glue on the platter and push it into the flocking dumped into a pan . I went to a fabric store and bought flocking and follwed the instructions . It worked but was only about half as nice a an original . You first need to paint the platter the same color as the locking Article: 326674 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "george conklin" References: Subject: Re: Curious about phonograph needle shapes Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 16:26:20 GMT "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:yamdnW9uwP0gTxTeRVn-og@sigecom.net... > > "H. P. Friedrichs" wrote in message > news:VaqdncfnGroruRTenZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@velocitywest.com... >> Hello--- >> >> I'm guessing that one of you folks has one of those vintage recording >> phonographs---the kind you could put a blank platter on and then record >> your own records. >> >> My question is this: How do the cutting needles differ from playback >> needles? Are they chisel-shaped? Are they heated, or do they cut cold? >> >> Anyone have a link with photos so that I could see the shape? >> >> Thanks, >> Pete >> >> Xpfriedr@hpfriedrichsX.com >> www.hpfriedrichs.com >> >> (remove X's to reply) > > Pete, > they were chisel-shaped. They came in steel and sapphire. The steel were > good for about fifteen minutes of recording and the sapphire good for > twelve times that, according to RCA in Rider's Record Changers and > Recorders. I'll try and scan what they show and post a pic on the > binaries. > > Bruce > Chisel only describes two dimensions. The third dimension is hard to describe since it had a sloping cutting side which tended to push the record flat, kind of like a sloping backside which ended in a V shape when viewed >from the front. I used steel ones myself. Article: 326675 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Janssen Subject: Re: AWA Contest- Caution References: <1T3if.2204$1x.2138@fed1read06> <%O9if.1603$Hk1.721@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:01:32 GMT COLIN LAMB wrote: >Hi Carl: > >The VT-127A is a good tube. It was a repackaged Eimac 100TL for radar use. >Just more filament current. They were cheap after the war, but got >sidetracked because the 304TL was also cheap and ran more power. > >Love to see a photo when you get done as I have a few sitting in storage >that belong in a rig. > >73, Colin K7FM > > > > I have a couple of 100xx also and some tunning capacitors and coils and transformers etc. I have been keeping these for an old time rig that probably will never get built. Anyone want to build a tube rig? I already have too many projects. Bill K7NOM Article: 326676 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Arthur Dent" References: <20050125110251.13387.00000206@mb-m27.aol.com> <6b8d3c5f6e9200b0ec3c89e21ca32b65@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Subject: Re: Wanted to buy Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 10:05:50 -0700 Here is a possible source for phono needles: http://www.phonostylus.com/preneedle.htm Nice guy to deal with. Glen "hawaiijim" wrote in message news:6b8d3c5f6e9200b0ec3c89e21ca32b65@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com... > hey Dan, > I have a rca 710v2 without tubes. I don't know if it works. > I am looking for a needle for a rp210. > tdmsrf@yahoo.com > Article: 326677 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ron H" Subject: American Concertone Model 400 Info? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 11:37:18 -0600 Anyone have any documentation or know of a source for it re the American Concertone Model 400 combo tape recorder - AM radio? Circa 1952?? Ron H Article: 326678 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <11offih23sic13e@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Anyone know to to re-fuzz a turntable? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:34:27 -0500 "Smokey" wrote in message > I've seen so many crummy, homebrew jobs of old metal turntables that have > had felt or velvet glued haphazardly to replace the original velvety > covering. How were metal turntables velveted when they were manufactured? > Anyone know? I'd love to learn the procedure to return my old turntables > to > their original former glory. Thanks! > > Smokey "Ken G." wrote in message >I had the need to do this once and talked to Bill about it . All he > does/did was put glue on the platter and push it into the flocking > dumped into a pan . You have to be kidding here...This would make an ugly and messy job all right. I bought a kit to reflok ( yeah, Flok is a (tm) and was the product sold in the 40-50ies ) my platters. I make them _exactly_ like they were. I have a NOS platter with original flocking as a reference. I like Bruce's coment about electrostatically "gluing" the fibers to the platter. It makes sense. I'll look into that. The kit cost me 25$ for two pumps, and 2 ounces of 6 colors, shipping included. Total cost for refloking a platter is about 50 cents ! BTW, I found out that many manufacturer used water based glue. Did find out as I clean all my platters under hot water using either a paint scraper or a butter knife. Takes less than a minute to clean one to bare metal. Philco apparently used a tougher glue, or paint, as it is close to impossible to clean the platter to bare metal without using a wire brush or sandblasting. I did explain how to reflok platters on my website. No need to paint the platter, just tint the glue. I spent quite a while on refloking and now I'm quite happy with the results. Go here : http://www.oldradioz.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=4&sid=ec16c8704d05323930665ebdd00ca63c Look for the reflok How-To thread. I show my first or second attempt at refloking with the best glue I found. The red example is the third attempt wich is excellent and very thick an "plushy" like the originals were. Syl From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Mon Nov 28 03:23:36 EST 2005 Article: 326679 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Save your world References: <438766ca$0$21267$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 14 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 18:59:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com 1133117989 66.65.49.10 (Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:59:49 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 13:59:49 EST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!news-feed-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:326679 In article , Gordon Richmond wrote: > I actually did have a meal of whale meat in Greenland. Had the taste > and texture of beef liver, but a bit milder. Not bad at all. Guess you'll never catch me eating whale meat then. I'm no fan of beef liver (or anything that tastes like it). However...I'm a sucker for cow's tongue. Had some for dinner on Saturday night, in fact. Yummmmm..... -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 326680 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Save your world References: <438766ca$0$21267$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr> Message-ID: <8Lnif.83722$QM5.12893@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:25:56 GMT Stephanie Weil wrote: > > However...I'm a sucker for cow's tongue. Had some for dinner on Saturday > night, in fact. Yummmmm..... On _All in the Family_ Archies having "issues" about beef tongue. "Edith, I ain't eating nothing that's been in a cow's mouth. Go scramble some eggs for me." Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Mon Nov 28 03:23:37 EST 2005 Article: 326681 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Source needed for wire References: Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 10 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 19:59:38 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1133121578 66.65.49.10 (Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:59:38 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 14:59:38 EST Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!news-feed-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:326681 In article , Paul P wrote: > DO NOT use "primary wire" for autos. Is there a reason for this? -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 326682 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Source needed for wire References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 20:06:05 GMT Stephanie Weil wrote: > In article , > Paul P wrote: > > >>DO NOT use "primary wire" for autos. > > > Is there a reason for this? Probably due to the lack of voltage rating. After all, the electrical system is most vehicles is only 13.8 VDC. Most of the wires found in radios come with a 600V rating. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 326683 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Source needed for wire Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 05:17:52 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:slrndok41a.s91.stephanie@home3.gordsven.com... > In article , > Paul P wrote: > >> DO NOT use "primary wire" for autos. > > Is there a reason for this? > > -- Don't know what is meant by "primary wire".. but automobile wiring never uses solid wire, and the stranded wire they use is much finer (greater number of individual strands) than house wiring. This is done, I believe, to get greater current carrying capacity from a given wire gauge. AC uses basically the surface of the wires for conduction, whereas DC uses the entire wire. Car electrical systems use ~10x as much current as a corresponding home unit (think Ohm's Law) Article: 326684 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Grid voltage question Message-ID: <3rqif.2255$1x.2100@fed1read06> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:29:43 -0500 "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:fiako1ljtohiffh5j3fijlttsjeq32igir@4ax.com... > Working on a Zenith 9S232 Walton. > > Osc grid voltage should be -8 volts. It's -18 volts. > The oscillator grid voltage will vary from band to band, and across the tuning range. If the set is working, don't sweat the bias. It is self generated by the grid rectifying some of local oscillator signal. A higher voltage probably just means the oscillator feedback is better than it should be. > Power tube voltage should be -3.5 volts. It's -17.5 volts. > > I thought I'd change out a resistor R13 since it seemed off by quite a > bit and that would change the voltage as it's in line with the grid. I > put in a resistor substitution box and tried several different > resistors in the circuit and none of them made a difference other than > slightly raising the voltage on the grid. Two things: The stage is Class A, and therefore the grid draws no current. That means the grid bias resistor value (within reason) has NO EFFECT on the grid voltage. That voltage is actually produced by the drop across the 250 ohm section of the candohm resistor. Changing R13 or R3 won't affect the bias. Remember the grid voltage shown in the manual was probably done with 5,000 ohm per volt instrument, I'll be you're using a more modern digital meter? The audio stage is a 6F6, the correct bias for that tube in Class A is around 16 to 26 volts, depending on the plate voltage. My guess your 9S232 is up to spec. Regards Peter > > This is page 8-35 of Riders. > > Is the voltages on those tube grids acceptable, or should I try to > lower them? What determines the voltage there? > > > .... > Blacksmith > > > > ... > Radio Literature on disc. > 136 issues (11 years) of SERVICE magazines on CD or DVD. > 175 issues of RADIO RETAILING magazines on CD or DVD. > Very early NRI home-study radio courses on CD. > Mallory Encyclopedia on CD. > Record Changers & Recorders by Rider (1941) on CD. > Radio Troubleshooter's Handbook > -- renovatedradiosdotcom -- Article: 326685 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Anyone know to to re-fuzz a turntable? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <11offih23sic13e@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 22:34:04 GMT In article , richmond@telusplanet.net says... > > >made in flocking this, that and everything. > >Gordon Richmond I remember seeing Flocked Christmas Trees.... and Yes I have Flocked a couple of turntables and a couple of those RCA dials that had Flocking on them that had fallen off.... spray on a little glue and shake that flocking stuff outta the sprinkle can that it comes in .... inside a box so you capture what doesn't stick and put it back into the can for the next Flocking... It really didn't look too bad... John k9uwa Article: 326686 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132773482.789926.22780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1132778170.229119.19990@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133043944.721091.69380@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <4Oqif.606607$xm3.24944@attbi_s21> Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 22:53:52 GMT In article , jbyrns@rcn.com says... > > >Does anyone know what the US >congress up to here? > >John Byrns I'll take a wild guess at that one.... So that They... Congress can lend the money to the "General Fund" for some 1% interest rate like they raped the SS money and use it to fund up a little more PORK John k9uwa Article: 326687 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Philco 118- Simple mod to make it sound great Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:25:23 +0100 Message-ID: <72854c0bfa414bdf7a0af8f85121ba75@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> The 118's always seem way too bass with no high audio freqs- even after recapping and all of the usual electronic repairs. It seems that it was designed to kill the highs rather than boost the lows at low volume (typical)but this design went too far. By simply lifting the 10K resistor (#65) at the tar tub (#66) you will get greatly improved audio with lots of highs! My 118 is now in daily use, no longer an unused dust collector. -Pete O. Article: 326688 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: antique tricycle-Ebay-$25 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 17:39:02 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1133127963.716217.313260@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <7rydnbF0z4PZsBfeRVn-tw@comcast.com> haha good one! randy > ... are the tubes in the tires? ... if so, they must be " triodes" .... > Article: 326689 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Roger Blake Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132773482.789926.22780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1132778170.229119.19990@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133043944.721091.69380@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4Oqif.606607$xm3.24944@attbi_s21> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:49:29 GMT In article <4Oqif.606607$xm3.24944@attbi_s21>, John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > I'll take a wild guess at that one.... So that They... Congress can > lend the money to the "General Fund" for some 1% interest rate like > they raped the SS money and use it to fund up a little more PORK The SS money has always gone into the general fund, the so-called "trust fund" is nothing more than an accounting gimmick. Social Security collections and disbursements are not tied together -- the "contributions" are simply a flat income tax and the payouts are a welfare program, not technically related. Monies paid in are not saved for, let alone invested for, the individuals making the "contributions." Both major parties have been lying through their teeth for decades on the nature of this program, which is structured much like a chain letter/Ponzi scheme. -- Roger Blake (Subtract 10 for email.) Article: 326690 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Roger Blake Subject: How to remove platter on Miracord 40A? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:53:28 GMT How can I remove the platter on an Elac Miracord 40A record changer? There does not appear to be a C-clip in the usual place around the spindle, and I don't see a clip underneath. When pulled up, the platter moves about 1/16" and then clunks against an obstruction. -- Roger Blake (Subtract 10 for email.) Article: 326691 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: How to remove platter on Miracord 40A? References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 01:21:31 GMT I have one of those and your right there is no C clip. It's just a snug fit on the spindle. A good hard yank and it comes off. Roger Blake wrote: > How can I remove the platter on an Elac Miracord 40A record changer? > There does not appear to be a C-clip in the usual place around the > spindle, and I don't see a clip underneath. When pulled up, the platter > moves about 1/16" and then clunks against an obstruction. > Article: 326692 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Curious hum in Zenith 7H822. References: <4d5io1tjncodnq5tahrua8js47aitmkage@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 01:59:38 GMT I'm with Mr. Casey on this one. I use a Q-tip dipped in acetone to clean the lead of the snipped cap, there is always some wax and other crud on there and I want to make sure I have the best connection. I made a little tool that winds a coil on the end of the new cap that slips over the stud. robert casey wrote: > >> >> I may get flamed for this, but I've found that rather than attempt to >> unsolder and unfold the leads of the old caps from the tube sockets or >> terminal lugs, it's easier to cut them a tad long, then form a sort of >> a sleeve in the end of the lead for the new cap by winding it around >> the lead of one of the old caps used as an arbor. Three or four >> tightly-wound turns. Slip it over the stub of the old lead, give a bit >> of a squeeze with needle-nose pliers, and solder. Result is >> mechanically and electrically secure, and not too conspicuous. >> >> I think it does less violence to the set than all the struggling to >> remove a tightly-wrapped and soldered OEM connection. >> > > That's what I always do. Terminals on switches, tube sockets, IF > transformers etc are somewhat fragile and not designed to take the > stress of undoing soldered on leads. Article: 326693 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Source needed for wire Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:04:01 -0500 "Engineer" wrote in message news:wN2dnXNU-dDi1RfenZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@rogers.com... > "Brenda Ann" wrote in message > news:dmd43f$qlj$1@news2.kornet.net... > > > > > Don't know what is meant by "primary wire".. but automobile wiring > > never uses solid wire... > > Correct, it would break under vibration. > > > ...and the stranded wire they use is much finer (greater number of > > individual strands) than house wiring. This is done, I believe, to > > get greater current carrying capacity from a given wire gauge. > > Not really. I think this is to get a greater flexibility for > protection against vibration in thick wire. > > > AC uses basically the surface of the wires for conduction.... > > Only at RF. At 60 Hz (al all audio frequncies come to that) the skin > effect is negligible. > > > > Cheers, > Roger > Also.. I'd think the wire strands would have to be individually insulated to fully take advantage of the skin effect at RF (ala Litz. ) Pete Article: 326694 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <438A6912.35FE5024@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: American Concertone Model 400 Info? References: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 02:19:05 GMT Ron H wrote: > > Anyone have any documentation or know of a source for it re the American > Concertone Model 400 combo tape recorder - AM radio? Circa 1952?? > > Ron H A Concertone Model 400 is listed in Sams TR-7. My records show that I have that manual and I will try to find it tomorrow to see if its the same thing. The Sams manual was printed in 1963. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 326695 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <438A6A7D.28149BAC@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Dial Covers References: <1132460229.881366.114720@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 02:25:08 GMT Lou deGonzague wrote: > > It's really too bad Bill didn't have an apprentice to learn from his > experience making the repro parts. This happens in all trades these days > as the old timers leave this world with all that knowledge in their > head. I saw this happen with a very skilled cabinet maker from Italy, he > kept all his trade secrets to himself. What greater gift could you leave > the next generation, it would give you immortality in a sense. When it was suggested to him and others a couple years ago to make video tapes showing how to do the different items Bill threw a hissy fit. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 326696 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jwb" Subject: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:03:10 GMT bought a dx-394 from david munro of keene ontario never recived it.two months now. paid with international postal money order and he cashed it,wont return calls or emails. beeware of david munro 220 paudash rd keene ontario canada kol-2go any ideas on how to pursue this further? thanks jack Article: 326697 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Preserving original labeling question References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:21:06 GMT Krylon(tm) Fixatif http://www.dataprint.com/shopping/item_details/?item_code=1401306&PHPSESSID=c25c838fff31a3fe3f528393396c8e10 Jeff Bob wrote: > I am restoring a receiver that seems to have all the original labeling in > pretty good condition, although very fragile. If I leave it alone, it will > decay further. Any recommendations on how to preserve them without ruining > them or their value. > Thanks, Ed. > > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 326698 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" Subject: Check out what I won Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:21:59 -0600 This has everything. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7565180167 -- Regards B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 326699 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Check out what I won References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:26:09 GMT Ooohers, nice score! Jeff Brian Hill wrote: > This has everything. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7565180167 > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 326700 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: has anyone used Plas-T-Pair? Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 20:30:58 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 18:46:52 -0800, Phil Nelson wrote: > I used it once to repair a knob which mysteriously had a hole punched > through the center, all the way to the shaft. I plugged the hole from inside > and made a containing form out of aluminum foil for the sides, then poured > repair mix into the form. After the plastic hardened, I shaped it with a > Dremel Moto-Tool and needle file to match the ridges on the knob front. > > The plastic seemed as tough as any other plastic, based on what it was like > to file, etc. But this was a cosmetic repair, not subjected to any force. > > Phil Nelson Thanks one and all. I'll order some and give it a try. If it doesn't work, it won't prevent me from trying the other methods. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 326701 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Anyone know to to re-fuzz a turntable? References: <11offih23sic13e@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:55:33 GMT > > and Yes I have Flocked a couple of turntables I assume you didn't flock them up.... (Running, ducking for cover) :D Article: 326702 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: My holiday wish list! Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:01:06 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1132891105.180084.212750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 05:03:04 -0700, Benjamaniac wrote: > Jim, > By small I mean one of those '40's looking TV's that had about a > 7" screen....kinda boxy looking...almost look like a radio with a oscope CRT > stuck in it. > Ben > > > "Jim Mueller" wrote in message > news:pan.2005.11.26.03.33.49.458414@nospam.com... >> On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 21:35:44 -0700, Benjamaniac wrote: >> >> Ben, >> >> What do you mean by small? >> >> Terry, >> >> I'be got your Admiral bakelite TV. Unfortunately, it's in Arizona (and in >> pieces so it wouldn't ship very well) :( If you're ever out this way let >> me know. >> >> >> -- >> Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com >> >> To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. >> Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. >> >> >> >>> I guess the only thing on my wish list this year is a small table >>> top bakelite or plastic case TV in restorable condition. I've always >>> wanted >>> one of those but there aren't any around here to be had. >>> Ben >>> >>> >>> "Terry S" wrote in message >>> news:1132891105.180084.212750@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >>>> With Thanksgiving digesting in the gut, my thoughts now turn to >>>> Christmas and Hanukkah. OK, and Kwanza and... and....you get the idea. >>>> >>>> So I made up my wish list, maybe someone out there can make some of my >>>> wishes come true. >>>> >>>> Please share your wish list too, maybe I've got some of your stuff. >>>> >>>> I wish for: >>>> >>>> 1. Tesla 308U chassis >>>> 2. Predicta project >>>> 3. Admiral bakelite TV project (would have to be local MN) >>>> 4. Peace on earth ;-) >>>> >>>> Terry. >>>> >> Ok, I know the little TV's you mean. That's not what I have. The one I have is a 17". Electrically it's complete and used to sort of work. Now, of course, it will have to be recapped along with fixing whatever else is wrong. The doghouse was missing so I made one out of perforated aluminum. After I turn it off (not a typo), I hear sparks, probably one of the electrolytics breaking down. There are also some sparks on the speaker; I don't know if it is the output transformer or the field coil or if the insulation can be repaired. I have the cabinet and, I think, the safety glass. However, the knobs and the door over the lesser used controls are missing. The back is also missing. The picture tube is out of the chassis in a box, but it isn't a picture tube box which is why shipping it wouldn't be a good idea. I have the ion trap. Except for the picture tube and ion trap, everything is buried behind a bunch of other stuff so all of the above is a memory from long ago and may not be totally correct. If you're ever out this way in a car, bring it up again. I can probably come up with a box big enough for the CRT and enough packing that it would make it back with careful handling. As for entrusting it to UPS or Fed Ex, I wouldn't be so sure. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 326703 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Check out what I won References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 04:04:48 GMT Brian Hill wrote: > This has everything. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7565180167 > Bet the high school that had it decided that something that could produce 300V was too much liability. Also the wood shop and metal shop were likely also closed down.... Article: 326704 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Diamond Dave Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:07:54 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:03:10 GMT, "jwb" wrote: >bought a dx-394 from david munro of keene ontario >never recived it.two months now. >paid with international postal money order and he cashed it,wont return >calls or emails. >beeware of >david munro >220 paudash rd >keene ontario canada >kol-2go >any ideas on how to pursue this further? >thanks jack Contact the Banditos and see if they have a chapter in his town, if they do, pay them to go to his house and kill everyone that lives there. Article: 326705 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Tubes - 6 Volt References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 04:07:36 GMT Art's Antique Radios wrote: > > What I have found is I have crates full of 6 volt peanut tubes. I'll take the peanut tubes off your hands. Email works, but don't title it "Discount viragra".... Article: 326706 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Can't ID vintage electronics part. HELP!!! Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 21:15:52 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1132947773.864398.38900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <33ea2$43887453$4232bd23$26132@COQUI.NET> On Sat, 26 Nov 2005 16:31:02 +0000, Michael Black wrote: > "Gary Tayman" (gtayman@gate.net) writes: >> Okay . . . what gets me is not the fact that this is a battery, but that a >> battery is installed underneath a tube socket, in that it is a >> non-user-replaceable part. I suppose it's not unlike the CMOS battery in >> this computer, except that I didn't think they were around back then. Does >> it somehow recharge during usage? Would a certain size bias resistor and an >> electrolytic do the same job? I would assume so, as most amps don't use >> these cells. >> > It's a voltage source, not a current source. Drain should be about > the same as if the battery is not connected. > > It supplies a negative voltage to the grid of a tube. A separate battery > was used because it was easier to wire in a battery than generate a negative > voltage. Remember, these are the days of battery power. > > Once you have AC going in, obviously you could rectify it and get an negative > DC voltage. But of course, a different design often eliminated the need > for an explicit bias voltage. > > Though, and I can't remember what it was, circa 1971 I'm sure there was > some construction article in the ARRL Handbook that featured a soldered > in bias battery. > > Michael This *is* an AC powered unit. Bias cells were used in low level stages because they didn't cause any hum. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 326707 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Tubes - 6 Volt References: Message-ID: <6Evif.5068$q93.1527639@twister.southeast.rr.com> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 04:24:34 GMT Mark Oppat wrote: > Mark, I tried emailing you about your idea for a talk at the Charlotte Conference. Did you get my message? Are you still interested in doing it? Please email me directly. Ron, kc4yoy (at) carolina . rr . com Article: 326708 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Wayne Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 22:50:20 -0600 Diamond Dave wrote: > Contact the Banditos and see if they have a chapter in his town, if they do, pay > them to go to his house and kill everyone that lives there. I hadn't heard anything about him for several months. I had assumed the Banditos had already been there. Wayne, KEØBZ Article: 326709 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Battery Question References: <1133152589.057720.47360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <09wif.83782$QM5.57245@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 04:59:40 GMT Urban legend...however, I've always had better luck with placing lead acid batteries on a piece of wood rather than directly on the concrete. I've never gotten a satisfactory answer for why though. Jeff tchrme wrote: > Please help settle a slightly related topic question for me. My > daughter was told that putting a car battery on the ground for a length > of time is bad for it. Somewhere in the past I heard something like > this. Is it an urban legend or does it have any truth in it? I can't > think of any electrical or chemical problem this would cause. Thanks > ahead of time for settling a bet I made with her. Mike KF6KXG > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 326710 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: m II Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 05:03:15 GMT Diamond Dave wrote: > Contact the Banditos and see if they have a chapter in his town, if they do, pay > them to go to his house and kill everyone that lives there. I understand dxAce will do contract hits in Canada for thirty bucks (US) mike Article: 326711 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Battery Question References: <1133152589.057720.47360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <09wif.83782$QM5.57245@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1133155270.740566.201640@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 05:28:41 GMT Jim Strickland wrote: > With the advent of 'hard rubber' battery packaging, it no longer > applies, according to this: http://www.inct.net/~autotips/battmyth.htm Thanks Jim. Although the second reason on that link makes a lot of sense for what I've heard about concrete floors. > Shortly after the introduction of "Hard Rubber" containers, which > were somewhat porous and of a less than ideal design, there was a > chance of current to be conducted through the container of a high > carbon content if the moist concrete floor permitted the current > to find an electrical ground. Of course, batteries have been contained in high quality plastic for the past 30-40 years or so now. But then, I started dealing with car batteries back in the 60s and at that time, those legends would still be fairly current. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 326712 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Battery Question Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2005 22:33:25 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1133152589.057720.47360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <09wif.83782$QM5.57245@tornado.socal.rr.com> better luck meaning...? ive stored batteries all kind of ways and cant say any of them were better than any other insomuch that what i sat it on made any difference... randy "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:09wif.83782$QM5.57245@tornado.socal.rr.com... > Urban legend...however, I've always had better luck with placing > lead acid batteries on a piece of wood rather than directly on the > concrete. I've never gotten a satisfactory answer for why though. Article: 326713 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Battery Question References: <1133152589.057720.47360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <09wif.83782$QM5.57245@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 05:42:06 GMT xrongor wrote: > better luck meaning...? Better luck meaning exactly what it sounded like. Purely anecdotal, but in approximately 20 years of working on cars at the house, batteries that I placed on a piece of 3/4" wood seemed to not self discharge as quickly as batteries left sitting directly on a concrete floor. Of course, it could also be just as simple as the ones I left sitting on the concrete were already crap. It's not like I took identical batteries and did any testing on it. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 326714 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario From: "Haggis" telus.net> References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 06:02:50 GMT On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:03:10 GMT, "jwb" wrote: >bought a dx-394 from david munro of keene ontario never recived it.two >months now. >paid with international postal money order and he cashed it,wont return >calls or emails. >beeware of david munro >220 paudash rd >keene ontario canada >kol-2go >any ideas on how to pursue this further? >thanks jack Had a similar thing (a bounced check, actually) with a guy in another city in Ontario. I sent an email to the police chief in his city, who apparently called him and 'sorted it out' - I did eventually receive my money. As Keene seems to be a suburb of Peterborough, ON. you might try: ( http://www.peterboroughpolice.com/ ). YMMV of course. Good luck. Haggis. Article: 326715 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: D Peter Maus Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 07:23:36 GMT Diamond Dave wrote: > On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 03:03:10 GMT, "jwb" wrote: >> bought a dx-394 from david munro of keene ontario >> never recived it.two months now. >> paid with international postal money order and he cashed it,wont return >> calls or emails. >> beeware of >> david munro >> 220 paudash rd >> keene ontario canada >> kol-2go >> any ideas on how to pursue this further? >> thanks jack > > Contact the Banditos and see if they have a chapter in his town, if they do, pay > them to go to his house and kill everyone that lives there. So, I'm guessing Halloween is particularly festive at your house? Article: 326716 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Battery Question Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:58:57 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1133152589.057720.47360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <09wif.83782$QM5.57245@tornado.socal.rr.com> "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:OMwif.83783$QM5.45089@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > xrongor wrote: > >> better luck meaning...? > > Better luck meaning exactly what it sounded like. > > Purely anecdotal, but in approximately 20 years of working on cars > at the house, batteries that I placed on a piece of 3/4" wood > seemed to not self discharge as quickly as batteries left sitting > directly on a concrete floor. > > Of course, it could also be just as simple as the ones I left > sitting on the concrete were already crap. It's not like I took > identical batteries and did any testing on it. ok. i just thought you might have a story or something. i think you're right. the ones i put on concrete were probably already shot too. i never trusted that whole concrete story, but it always seemed better safe than sorry. randy Article: 326717 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Anyone know to to re-fuzz a turntable? Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 00:59:33 -0700 Message-ID: References: <11offih23sic13e@corp.supernews.com> "robert casey" wrote in message news:Vcvif.6504$wf.466@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > >> >> and Yes I have Flocked a couple of turntables > > I assume you didn't flock them up.... (Running, ducking for > cover) :D get the flock out of here... randy Article: 326718 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "alby" Subject: Antique metal telephone (eBay) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:09:27 GMT metal Siemens-Italia http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7369491434&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT bakelite Siemens-Italia http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7369499123&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT Article: 326719 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "libero" Subject: antique panel-car-clock 1930 (eBay) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:12:32 GMT http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4593225362&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT Article: 326720 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Woody" References: Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:19:57 GMT It never ceases to amaze me how many times people come here to post "beware" messages but didn't take the time to search for them before blindly sending money to a stranger. Not that it's foolproof, but one search would have saved the trouble in this case, several times over. Sorry for your loss and wish you well in the recovery. Getting ripped sucks. rb "jwb" wrote in message news:Oruif.365898$084.11020@attbi_s22... > bought a dx-394 from david munro of keene ontario > never recived it.two months now. > paid with international postal money order and he cashed it,wont return > calls or emails. > beeware of > david munro > 220 paudash rd > keene ontario canada > kol-2go > any ideas on how to pursue this further? > thanks jack > Article: 326721 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Povertyhill" References: Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:56:11 GMT Jack, the best advice is contact the local RCMP office in that area and ask how to file a complaint. Before you do make sure you have a copy of the postal money order showing that he cashed the money order. If you purchased the money order from the US Postal Service then you should also contact them regarding mail fraud. They may refer you to the Canadian postal service but who cares as long as you get someone to take action. Do not let it drop as someone else will get ripped off next. Let us know how you make out. "jwb" wrote in message news:Oruif.365898$084.11020@attbi_s22... > bought a dx-394 from david munro of keene ontario > never recived it.two months now. > paid with international postal money order and he cashed it,wont return > calls or emails. > beeware of > david munro > 220 paudash rd > keene ontario canada > kol-2go > any ideas on how to pursue this further? > thanks jack > Article: 326722 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Battery Question From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1133152589.057720.47360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <09wif.83782$QM5.57245@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:17:32 GMT In article , hacky@smackeycrackey.com says... > > >but it always seemed better safe than sorry. > >randy > > As an old Guy... I also have always planted them on wooden board. I might make one comment as to yet today why they discharge less on a wooden board than setting on the concrete.. temperature ... the concrete is cold and the wooden board somewhat insulates the battery from the floor.... now that wouldn't apply much to you guys that live in the southland... but it certainly does to those of us up north!.. John k9uwa Article: 326723 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Filter cap replacements in general, and 6KG6 tubes specifically References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:31:22 -0500 If the amp is 40 years old, change ALL the capacitors, filter and coupling. Ken tmh wrote: > I've heard conflicting things about replacing power supply filter caps in > old audio amplifiers, and was told that this is the place to ask the guys > who really know... > > With regard to 30-40 year old tube amplifiers, is it a general rule that > original PS filter caps should be replaced? I've been told that > electrolytitc caps, because of the nature of their construction, are not > reliable after that many years. Is this right? > > Or are 35 and 40 year old filter caps potentially still good? Do they need > to be "formed"? I've heard that they do, and I've also heard that forming > caps using a variac to bring up the voltage can damage the transformers in > the amp, which would of course be a terrible idea. > > And second I have a very specific question, about 6KG6 tubes. I have an > amplifier that uses these a quad of these as output tubes. I was curious if > anyone had specific experience with various types of 6KG6 tubes, that they > might give me advice. The tubes that came in the amp are branded GE and > stamped "GREAT BRITAIN", which I understand to mean they're Mullard > production. Is that right? They are, to the best of my knowledge, over 30 > years old, and as far as I can tell they work wonderfully. I've never heard > the amp with any other tubes, so I don't know if it would sound better or > worse with different new or NOS tubes. Any suggestions? I've read "avoid > the Ei EL519"; from what I've read the EL519 is interchangable with the > EL509, and EL509 = 6KG6. > > Any help, any solid information, is greatly appreciated. > > TMH > > Article: 326724 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Filter cap replacements in general, and 6KG6 tubes specifically From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:36:20 GMT In article , ponyvstiger@hotmail.com says... > > Your correct that the old filter caps should definitely GO AWAY and be replaced with new ones... also if that amp has any early plastic covered capacitors in it. They are really wax and paper caps and also need to go away.. there your looking for Black Caps with Sprague on them in yellow or red ... or the striped bumblebee caps.. also there were some that are red in color. they almost always leak like crazy... As to the tubes.. here its only a personal opinion but... #1 in any amp that has multiple tubes in the output they should be at least close to same readings on a good tube tester... Matched... at least a close match. As to one brand or another brand of tubes... personal opinion... a lot of it is audiophoolery hype.. there are some brands to be avoided because the life of the tubes isn't good perhaps... the chinese tubes come to mind there... As to reforming a NOS Filter Cap ... its possibly or perhaps more so dried out junk than one thats been in use all the time over the years. Why take a chance on loosing a power transformer, killing your tubes, loosing your audio output transformer over a few capacitors that are at best on their last leg. My basis for the above comments... I restore mostly old radios and a few amps... we do about 150 units per year and have been doing so for over 10 years.. I warranty the stuff for a year going out the door. We have very few warranty claims even on stuff that has been out for many years. John k9uwa >Any help, any solid information, is greatly appreciated. > >TMH > > Article: 326725 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Tubes - 6 Volt From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: <4UDif.366609$084.33859@attbi_s22> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:47:44 GMT In article , moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... > > addition to Mark's list... many of the 6 and 12 volt tubes are also used in some of the older Ham Equipment.. not that they are worth much.. but better to find a guy that works on that sort of stuff and give them to him rather than seeing them become B-B Gun fodder ..... Robert Casey will at least sort them and anything worth messing with will someday be used rather than pitched out.. I did the same thing here two years ago... I filled up the back end of a full sized Dodge Pickup with a cap on it... all 7 and 9 pin minis to a buddy thats a tube dealer in Michigan... think he paid me about the same amount as he put in the gas tank to come get them.. but better than seeing them lost forever... John k9uwa >Art, > >for USED tubes, >in the 7 minature tubes there are none with any significant value except for >the 1L6 . > >9 pin minatures, there are a few worth mentioning: >50A1 ballast tube for Trans-O's >6BQ5 and other similar audio output types, like 6973. >12AX7, 12AU7, 12AT7 , especially if Mullard ,Amperex or black plate RCA. > >Most other 9 pins have little value if used. > >Mark Oppat Article: 326726 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: OT- Stylebook for Gulf Coast Rebuilding Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:53:27 -0500 Message-ID: <11om2upnib361@corp.supernews.com> http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/24/garden/24pattern.html (Use bugmenot.com to get in if you don't want to register. Here's what I propose FEMA should specify if anyone had any sense, for rebuilding after ANY such disaster- 1) Walls- reinforced concrete or faced block with reinforced cores 2) Roofs- flat poured reinforced concrete, no wooden roofs, shingles, or gables allowed 3) Windows- metal frames, built in hurricane shutters tested to Class 5 minimum, with decorative iron grillwork for security I don't see why we should collectively pay for some soon to decay and blow away wooden boxes that are in fact "traditional". I fear tradition calls for a totally unsuitable house that tries to deny the reality of humidity, termites, and hurricanes. John H. Article: 326727 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <437E877D.7060200@ix.netcom.com> <5def7$437e9997$4232bdab$22023@COQUI.NET> <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132773482.789926.22780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1132778170.229119.19990@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133043944.721091.69380@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 13:54:29 GMT In article , rogblake10@iname10.com says... > > >Both major parties have >been lying through their teeth for decades on the nature of this program, >which is structured much like a chain letter/Ponzi scheme. > >-- > Roger Blake Yup and thats why they show that BS interest rate on the accounting system of some 1% ... sure wish I could get 1% money in unlimited amounts !! Thats why everytime someone talks about modifying the SS system to put money into anything other than the general fund current program it meets more opposition from both sides of the aisle... they aren't about to give away that Cash Cow ... thats one point that Bush was right about... let the young people put a portion of their money into private solid investment accounts... yup the system would be running a whole lot more red ink for probably 20 years or so... but eventually it would fix itself.... boy did that one go over like a lead ballon in Congress.... them guys... all of them wouldn't have near the money to spend on all that pork... John k9uwa Article: 326728 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Filter cap replacements in general, and 6KG6 tubes specifically Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 09:04:27 -0500 Message-ID: <11om3jcq7spnd47@corp.supernews.com> References: John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > >> > > Your correct that the old filter caps should definitely GO AWAY and be > replaced with new ones. You will likely hear soon from posters who'll tell you they run old tube gear on 50 year old 'lytics (or older) all the time with no problems. They ALL hope to trick you into filling the house with acrid smoke and destroying unobtainable power transformers to justify their own laziness and ignorance. Troubleshooting old paper and 'lytic caps is exactly like cooking rotten meat from a dumpster carefully. John H. Article: 326729 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Check out what I won Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:09:39 GMT Gee, it looks to have everything, but it also might take up your entire bench. Set it on a shelf above it, it might make for a handy setup. This thing reminds me; many years ago when I was in electronics school, (circa 1975) there was a rep from Tektronix who brought in a bench setup for display. This somewhat modular thing had a function generator, meter, scope, frequency counter, and essentially all the basic toys with super-duper specs, all sitting on a rather smallish footprint. I have never seen anything like it since. Was the price too high and nobody bought it? Maybe everyone who has one likes theirs and there are none for sale. It was a nice concept that has had me curious. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Brian Hill" wrote in message news:pJuif.8772$Mj.3791@fe04.lga... > This has everything. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7565180167 > > -- > > Regards > B.H. > > Brian's Radio Universe > http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm > Article: 326730 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <11om2upnib361@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: OT- Stylebook for Gulf Coast Rebuilding Message-ID: <9CEif.2117$Hk1.1778@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:36:53 GMT To put this back ON topic . . . There was an older retired fellow who has rebuilt several, very nice radios -- both consoles and table models. His home was something to see -- some absolutely gorgeous units that looked and sounded great. He would act like a tourguide, and give a full description of every one of them. He also said that he might be getting tired of some and may sell them off as he rebuilds others, but not yet. Some people have tried hard to buy radios >from him, but he has refused to sell. Last summer he decided to move away from Sarasota to New Orleans, and he took his radios with him. Need I say more? He did have some "junk" radios, that really aren't that bad, that he left behind and either sold or gave to someone else. These radios, both console and table, along with some test equipment and other pieces, will be on sale at the upcoming Sarasota Swap Meet. They will be going cheap! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11om2upnib361@corp.supernews.com... > http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/24/garden/24pattern.html > > (Use bugmenot.com to get in if you don't want to register. > > Here's what I propose FEMA should specify if anyone had any sense, for > rebuilding after ANY such disaster- > > 1) Walls- reinforced concrete or faced block with reinforced cores > 2) Roofs- flat poured reinforced concrete, no wooden roofs, shingles, or > gables allowed > 3) Windows- metal frames, built in hurricane shutters tested to Class 5 > minimum, with decorative iron grillwork for security > > I don't see why we should collectively pay for some soon to decay and blow > away wooden boxes that are in fact "traditional". I fear tradition calls > for a totally unsuitable house that tries to deny the reality of humidity, > termites, and hurricanes. > > John H. > Article: 326731 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Reminder: Sarasota Swap Meet is THIS Saturday! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 14:43:48 GMT This time I really got the word out; let's see what happens. In the past this swap meet has been dying off, with only a handful of people still involved. This time around, starting a couple months ago, I printed up flyers, spread them everywhere, told numerous local dealers, talked about it at car shows, spread the word to a ham club, and even got some advertising up in the St. Pete area. By the way, this is a SHOW and meet, so we're expecting to have several radios on display competing for a trophy. So -- let's see what happens! For those unfamiliar, this will be at the Knights of Columbus hall on Fruitville Road in Sarasota, Saturday December 3 from 8:00 AM to 11:00 AM. Take I-75 to exit 210, Fruitville Road, and head west about 1.5 miles. When you see a KFC on the left, slow down -- it is just ahead on the left. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 326732 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Message-ID: <1jFif.7236$G11.3808@fe07.lga> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 09:24:48 -0600 "Povertyhill" wrote in message news:L7Dif.3$6e.0@tornado.tampabay.rr.com... > Jack, the best advice is contact the local RCMP office in that area and > ask how to file a complaint. Before you do make sure you have a copy of > the postal money order showing that he cashed the money order. If you > purchased the money order from the US Postal Service then you should also > contact them regarding mail fraud. They may refer you to the Canadian > postal service but who cares as long as you get someone to take action. Do > not let it drop as someone else will get ripped off next. Let us know how > you make out. > Doesn't matter. Several years ago I had a scumbag in Conn. rip me and I paid with US postal MO. The post office had me fill out papers etc.. They never did anything and I bugged em about it for two years, nothing! I went the whole wrought and reported it to Bridgeport police filed every complaint in the book, nothing. And they wonder why people take the law into their own hands. -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 326733 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: Check out what I won Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 09:37:55 -0600 "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:DcEif.2949$A23.1625@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Gee, it looks to have everything, but it also might take up your entire > bench. > > Set it on a shelf above it, it might make for a handy setup. Its long but not that wide. 39' LONG, 8" TALL, 9" DEEP -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 326734 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Can ANYONE ID this flying-saucer-looking electronic component? Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 08:12:16 -0800 Message-ID: <11348-438B2C60-514@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> References: To 'purists' it may not sound kosher, but I used to eliminate bias cells if they were questionable (this was before the advent of watch batteries). Since the cell is in series with the signal lead, just replace it with a capacitor, and put in a grid resistor of 10 meg or so (between grid and ground). With this high R value, the grid is 'semi floating' and self-biases by space charge. Never had a problem with it. Can't imagine any, unless physical size of the cap might introduce hum pickup. Bill(oc) Article: 326735 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: Philco 118- Simple mod to make it sound great Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:05:50 +0100 Message-ID: <3840fec2f3ee1095ee664c810cf47360@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: <72854c0bfa414bdf7a0af8f85121ba75@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <87amo15krjiou3b4bn0nh9pr7idl98acan@4ax.com> Yup, try it, you'll like it. I haven't looked but suspect that this overkill RC network is used in other Philco's with the same chassis. -Pete O. Article: 326736 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Secret Santa 2005 References: <1133194585.389772.261290@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <8RGif.43776$2k6.4519@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:09:24 GMT Ok people. I've gotten my list together, the assignments will go out this evening some time. Santa's little helper. stephanienyc@gmail.com wrote: > Jeff, did you get my contact info? I can't remember if I actually sent > it in or what. Thanks. HOpe it isn't too late. I'll re-send again. > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 326737 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jsmithe" Subject: Siemens K32 Sale Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:23:52 GMT Siemens K32, World War II German Air Force Radio with all tubes. Picture Available. In New York City. Call 212 245-6980 or email admin@funbureau.com. Article: 326738 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Diamond Dave Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 10:46:02 -0700 Message-ID: References: <5%wif.20931$7h7.18032@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 05:57:21 GMT, "fdfd" wrote: >Gather all evidence of the transaction. >Contact the RCMP in Canada and in Ontario >Province. They may go after him. Here's what Canadian authorities have told US victims in the past: you stupid Americans deserve whatever happens to you. Article: 326739 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <1133152589.057720.47360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <09wif.83782$QM5.57245@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1133197912.764238.136970@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Battery Question Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:14:45 -0330 "nesesu" wrote in message news:1133197912.764238.136970@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Tom, that is the most sensible explanation I have heard on this > subject! > Thanks, > Neil S. > I think they all made sense. Different conditions, different eras and certain evolution of the basic lead/acid battery product, particularly in respect of plastics available as acid container. Interesting. Thank you PS. be interesting if/when automobiles adopt a higher voltage. I've heard 'talk' of something around 42 volts? And that was not for any of the hybrids but to save wiring costs? That sounds to me like 20 cells; which operating between a full charge voltage of about 2.3 volts per cell (max) and fully discharged at, say, 1.9 volts per cell means operating voltage range of 46 to 38 volts. Kinda different to those 6 volter car radios of the 1940s. Eh? Article: 326740 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <438b690a$0$11079$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Filter cap replacements in general, and 6KG6 tubes specifically References: <1133208919.318675.206690@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Date: 28 Nov 2005 20:31:06 GMT toxcrusadr wrote: >>They are, to the best of my knowledge, over 30 years old, > Anyone know when the 6K6G went out of production? This is an ST16 size > tube, I think, and assuming it came in during the early to mid 30s, > maybe it was made up into the 50s? Which means your tubes are probably > more like 40-70 years old. The 6KG6 is supposedly equivalent to the EL509, which was used as a line deflection output tube in colour televisions. The EL509/PL509 was first seen in Europe in the late sixties. In the early seventies a 'heavier' version was introduced, the EL519/PL519. - Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 326741 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 12:23:39 -0800 Message-ID: <19374-438B674B-480@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> References: >From DD: >Here's what Canadian authorities have >told US victims in the past: you stupid >Americans deserve whatever happens to >you. There are some diehard American crackers who consider the whole of Canuckistan a conjoined parasitic growth on our back. Bill(oc) Article: 326742 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Roger Blake Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <2im1o19kdv5se0mvmnm2mhl6hps92mcgll@4ax.com> <1132668775.583308.98160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1132773482.789926.22780@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1132778170.229119.19990@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133043944.721091.69380@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133200131.152367.228800@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: 28 Nov 2005 20:57:53 GMT In article <1133200131.152367.228800@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Peter Wieck wrote: > There is only one problem with privatizing SS. Actually there is a big problem with the government running it, something that few people pay attention to these days now that the notion of limited central government is a distant memory and "the end justifies the means" is the rule of the day. There is no constitutional authority for Social Security and other social welfare programs. (Clauses such as 'general welfare' and 'interstate commerce' were intended to be restrictive rather than expansive in nature, chaining the central government down to a limited scope.) Judge Janice Rogers Brown was 100% correct in her observation that the 'New Deal' and 'Great Society' cannot be fit into the framework of the constitution. -- Roger Blake (Subtract 10 for email.) Article: 326743 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <1133190021.118001.264270@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:38:58 -0330 "RHF" wrote in message news:1133190021.118001.264270@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >M II - I understand that 'you' Kill Baby Seals for Free ~ RHF > . > . > . . It has been illegal (and there is therefore no market anyway) to kill baby seals for many years now. However organisations such as the IFFAW still use 'old footage' (Well, of animals anyway) cos Bridgette Bardot, once pictured cuddling a wild live seal pup, is much older today! For fund raising. And the debate continues, despite millions of seals on the North East coast of North America each year. Less depleted than the once plentiful North American buffalo are now. For fishing peoples the seal 'fishery' was once an essential part of surviving through the end of the harsh winter season. It was an intensely dangerous activity that could bring in some, often essential, income at a critical time of year, before fishing could be recommenced. It was 'prosecuted' as the expression used to be, typically out of New England, Nova Scotia Canada and from Newfoundland (now part of Canada) and Greenland etc. With the debate/controversy, fact/fiction? about 'Global warming' it may become less common. If global warming is true, without sea ice on which seals can 'pup' (i.e. give birth their young) vast seal numbers will decrease. Kinda unkind to be drowned at birth eh? In the last few years good quality seal pelts have risen in demand and in price. Some people who live in cold wet, icy climates prefer sealskin clothing in preference to say, less waterproof, sheepskin/leather. But sealskin is also used for very fashionable items. And for durability; one will rarely wear out a sealskin hat or boots, for example. Beware of misleading (anti-sealing) advertising! To paraphrase Hitler; who once said "To tell a lie. Tell a big one and tell it often". The sealing season is brief and highly regulated. My late neighbour VO1HI, also a licensed marine radio operator, once took part of his vacation as radio operator on one of the traditional style sealing vessels which went to the ice 'front' to get seals pelts, seal carcass meat and 'flippers' which properly prepared are still considered a delicacy in certain areas. Article: 326744 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Zenith Rotor Wavemagnet Antenna question Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 15:55:51 -0700 Message-ID: <28497-438B8AF7-205@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <7aidnU4TRPEe4xbenZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@comcast.com> Its hard to beat those Zniths with the box loop antenna . I noticed all radios with a loop antenna have better DX and less static Article: 326745 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: Subject: Re: Power Supply Re-Wire... Message-ID: <1ZLif.1438$Et5.104432@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:31:20 -0330 "Joe Farkas" wrote (in part) in message news:aqceo15khelk5qdudcurbtnpjqailh9i37@4ax.com... . > Keeping the 6X5 will slow the voltage built up on turn on, but the 4 > diode bridge eliminates the 2 amp filament draw, so less strain on an > already troubled transformer. > Suggestions? . Joe; Interesting you also suggest this. I agree less strain; also less heat in (my case) a 60+ year old dried out power transformer! Because I also have plan to do same (get rid of the 6X5 heater draw) in the AC/12 volt input power supply, of a British WWII military receiver. Modification to be reversible to original; by leaving the vibrator (bottom up) since it and its socket not used on AC at all and substituting diodes, additional voltage drop resistance and possibly time delay for the B+, on an adapter plugged into the 6X5 octal socket. My Rx is specd. to draw 36 watts, total. Eliminating the approx 13 watts used by the 6X5 heater would be a significant reduction of load on the now probably irreplaceable power transformer. Unit has big metal cabinet but no louvres or cooling fan! Despite that they were rumoured to have worked well in the hot North African desert and elsewhere! Previously (possibly most of its military and post war-surplus civilian life), the unit was mains AC powered using the whole of the 230 volts input/primary winding. Now using it on the 115 volt taps. But also in favour is that frequency (here in this part of North America) is 60 hertz! Terry Article: 326746 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Zenith Rotor Wavemagnet Antenna question Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 16:01:13 -0700 Message-ID: <28496-438B8C39-710@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <2cudnWSCQ6Tq4BbenZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@comcast.com> Mark the terk am-fm antennas are on sale for 36$ Article: 326747 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: References: Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 18:24:53 -0500 That is reasonable enough to erase his entire family tree for a few hundred bucks. That would be fairly effective assurance that the problem won't grow any larger from his gene pool. "m II" wrote in message news:ncwif.216889$ir4.116930@edtnps90... > Diamond Dave wrote: > >> Contact the Banditos and see if they have a chapter in his town, if they >> do, pay >> them to go to his house and kill everyone that lives there. > > > I understand dxAce will do contract hits in Canada for thirty bucks (US) > > > > > > mike Article: 326748 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:24:40 GMT "jwb" wrote in message news:Oruif.365898$084.11020@attbi_s22... > bought a dx-394 from david munro of keene ontario > never recived it.two months now. > paid with international postal money order and he cashed it,wont return > calls or emails. > beeware of > david munro > 220 paudash rd > keene ontario canada > kol-2go > any ideas on how to pursue this further? > thanks jack > There's a website devoted to this alleged scammer: http://scammerdave.com/ -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery/Antique_radios and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 326749 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: Subject: Re: Antique metal telephone (eBay) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:52:20 GMT alby wrote: > metal Siemens-Italia > http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7369491434&ssPageName =STRK:MESE:IT > > bakelite Siemens-Italia > > http://cgi.ebay.it/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7369499123&ssPageName =STRK:MESE:IT Ne questo ne l'altro sono inerenti alle radio, questo si chiama spam bello e buono, pensi che dovrei segnalarlo a eBay, così che ti segano subito quei 3 FB? Article: 326750 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1133200131.152367.228800@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 23:59:02 GMT In article <1133200131.152367.228800@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, pfjw@aol.com says... > > well history tells us that the stock market in general has long outdistanced the 1% that the SS fund supposedly collects from the loans to the general fund..... plain jane old CD's at your local bank don't do to bad against this... even when interest rates were completely in the sewer a year or so ago they were still better than 1% ... John k9uwa >John: > >There is only one problem with privatizing SS. Consider it carefully. >Right now, pension plans in general are growing. More-or-less all of >them, even those private plans raped by pension funding requirement >changes some years back. Accordingly, those instruments that support >such plans, bonds, stocks, REITs, foreign funds, mortgage funds, and >the like (mutual funds, hedge funds, etc. are just some/all of the >above in a different form) have to absorb more cash than they have to >free up to pay existing obligations. A rising tide lifts all boats. > >Peter Wieck >Wyncote, PA > Article: 326751 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith Wavemagnet needed 5 pin vers. From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:03:56 GMT In article , moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... > > >hi all, I have a '40 Zenith mini chairside in here and the customer doesnt >have the antenna. It takes the 5 pin version and all the ones I have are >the 4 pin. > >Anyone got the 5 pin version in stock? I could use probably better a loop >from one of their table sets with that plug on it. I know I could wire up >another loop but would like to keep this close to original if possible. > >Mr Goller... you gots??? > >thanks for looking... > >Mark Oppat > > > Dunno .... what it the model number of the radio your working on?... or give me the metal tag number... John Article: 326752 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: Subject: Re: Check out what I won Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:19:39 GMT Brian Hill wrote: > This has everything. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7565180167 ..the early version of item 5828253170? ;-)) -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 326753 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Zenith Rotor Wavemagnet Antenna question Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:43:22 -0500 That's a good observation. The loop antenna in the Zenith gives it the edge because it is directional, and can be used to peak the signal or notch the direction where the noise is coming from. A wire antenna, run inside, will pick up a lot of noise from the house wiring. Both sets probably have the same sensitivity, The antenna makes the difference. Pete Article: 326754 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Woody" References: <1jFif.7236$G11.3808@fe07.lga> Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 01:04:19 GMT LOL, you're correct.... it really doesn't matter. Had a rockhead try to take me for $3500 outta NY a while back... deal over the internet, cert. bank check, and it went from local cops to county to state to Atty. General to United States Postal Inspectors.... last thing I remember being told by the trusty Package-Police... "You must realize we have million-dollar frauds on our desk, but we will look into it as soon as possible." and as far as I know, it's still on his desk.... I gave up on the system [will never use it again] and just hounded/tracked/harrassed/called/fax-bombed/email-bombed the living crap outta him, his neighbors and everyone he knew for nearly a year straight, and finally someone had enough and gave up one of their wives and where they worked.....and I called there. WOW.... I had my money coming back to me in timely payments over about 4 months and even got a couple hundred for the "trouble". [it all came in money orders from different people and places, but who's complaining...] Something about losing his Correctional Officer job and her job with Ingersoll-Rand just lit a fire under it. Maybe one day I'll even let the package-police know what happened. Almost 2 years lost, screwing around with morons. Puerto-Rican mafia morons no less. [no offense to PR in general] The system only works for the few, and only in a 'right place/right time' manner. Wish him luck! rb "Brian Hill" wrote in message news:1jFif.7236$G11.3808@fe07.lga... > > "Povertyhill" wrote in message > news:L7Dif.3$6e.0@tornado.tampabay.rr.com... >> Jack, the best advice is contact the local RCMP office in that area and >> ask how to file a complaint. Before you do make sure you have a copy of >> the postal money order showing that he cashed the money order. If you >> purchased the money order from the US Postal Service then you should also >> contact them regarding mail fraud. They may refer you to the Canadian >> postal service but who cares as long as you get someone to take action. >> Do not let it drop as someone else will get ripped off next. Let us know >> how you make out. >> > > Doesn't matter. Several years ago I had a scumbag in Conn. rip me and I > paid with US postal MO. The post office had me fill out papers etc.. They > never did anything and I bugged em about it for two years, nothing! I went > the whole wrought and reported it to Bridgeport police filed every > complaint in the book, nothing. And they wonder why people take the law > into their own hands. > > > -- > > Regards > B.H. > > Brian's Basement > http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm > > Brian's Radio Universe > http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm > Article: 326755 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:31:48 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Can ANYONE ID this flying-saucer-looking electronic component? References: <11348-438B2C60-514@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> <1133225651.358067.136830@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Mick wrote: > Hi Bill, > > Did you notice that there is a red wire that is essentially bypassing > the battery on this amp? I'm thinking the last owner couldn't get a > good signal. Problem is, I've go a straight wire to the grid. Would you > agree that I need to remove that wire to restore to the original > layout? Seems absolutely correct to do this, but two heads and all > that. Would appreciate your feedback, as someone who has played with > this bug before. > > Mick > Hehe...you're asking the wrong guy about the correct way! I found it odd that it seems to be in series between what appears to be an input jack and the tube. This isn't the way they are typically incorporated but I had an old radio once where the audio passed THROUGH the battery, or so it seemed, and everyone told me I was nuts. Consequently, in that case, I was not able to use a watch battery type of replacement. All it did was hum. What I wound up doing was just as someone else has suggested - use a high value resistor (a few megohms) from the grid to chassis and added a coupling capacitor between the tube and the input jack. Something like .01 oughta do the trick. By straight-wiring around the battery the previous user was getting his bias thru the guitar pickup back to ground or something like that...I doubt that was intentional but it must have allowed the amp to 'work'. I don't know if there's a particular reason that one would want to use such a thing in series with the audio - seems kinda nutty to me - but not knowing any better I'd do away with it. Zillions of amp circuits seem to work just fine without such a configuration. Thats not much help but maybe it will provoke some better heads than mine to chime in with alternatives. Good luck, Bill Article: 326756 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Can ANYONE ID this flying-saucer-looking electronic component? Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 17:28:56 -0800 Message-ID: <19374-438BAED8-502@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> References: <1133225651.358067.136830@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> 'Lo Mick If that red wire in the photo is shorting out the bias cell, apparently someone tacked it in and the amp 'worked OK', so they just left it in. Tell you the truth, i've done the same thing in old radios just to see if it made any difference. And it made no difference that i could hear. But to keep things kosher i went ahead and used a cap with a 10 meg resistor anyway. The consensus on the NG now that watch batteries are available would probably be to use a watch battery (being sure the negative side goes to the grid). Bill(oc) Article: 326757 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Phil Nelson's Phil's Old Radios Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 01:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1132635387.658488.178260@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9J-dncYOMo2FKR_eRVn-jQ@giganews.com> <11obe8g7talqiaf@corp.supernews.com> In <11obe8g7talqiaf@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar writes: >My budget is now ten bucks a tube for fixer-uppers and I can just barely >keep the house from filling up with them. I'm currently developing an >independent service "Please Shoot Me" that will contract to take >appropriate steps should consoles appear in the center of any rooms >here, or God forbid "aisles". They will also burn the house if radios >are found on my bed. John, you should've just built a house out of consoles. You could've done the Camera Van one better: http://cameravan.com Alas, consolehouse.com is already taken. No, I didn't check to see what, if anything, that domain's about. Maybe someone's already done it! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326758 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: I'd like to find this radio under the Christmas tree this year Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 01:48:11 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1132797715.954460.316820@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In "Phil Nelson" writes: >> "BOUGHT FROM ORIGINAL OWNER SEVERAL YEARS AGO, >> WHERE IT WAS USED AS HIS GARAGE RADIO." >Clearly not treated as a treasure by that guy. Makes you wonder what he had in the living room. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326759 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: I'd like to find this radio under the Christmas tree this year Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 21:28:11 -0500 Message-ID: <11onf5rhi790700@corp.supernews.com> References: <1132797715.954460.316820@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I can't believe I missed this, that's SOOOOOOOOOOOOOO cheap ! One in a million that one will appear on eBay so cheap, before the next Depression anyway. It would sure be nerve racking stripping it though. I can't believe he used it in the garage! Maybe the silvering is all messed up, and so he painted it. The cheapest people in the world bought (besides me) it so you KNOW it's a good deal! John H. Article: 326760 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Save your world Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 02:48:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <438766ca$0$21267$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr> <8Lnif.83722$QM5.12893@tornado.socal.rr.com> In <8Lnif.83722$QM5.12893@tornado.socal.rr.com> Jeffrey D Angus writes: >On _All in the Family_ Archies having "issues" about beef tongue. >"Edith, I ain't eating nothing that's been in a cow's mouth. >Go scramble some eggs for me." From someone's .sig: "Ever wonder who the first person was that said "You know, I think I'm going to eat the first thing that comes out of that chicken's ass"! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326761 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" References: <1132797715.954460.316820@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I'd like to find this radio under the Christmas tree this year Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 03:02:52 GMT >From the pictures, it looks like the front mirror is replaced by blue tinted plywood. "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1132797715.954460.316820@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Maybe my wife will buy it for me. (Ha!) > http://cgi.ebay.com/SPARTAN-BLUE-MIRROR-RADIO_W0QQitemZ6581662507QQcategoryZ38034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > Article: 326762 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Record changer for a Philco 116-122 Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 20:21:21 -0700 Message-ID: Just picked up a nice Philco 116-122, but it's missing the turntable, Does anybody know which one I should be looking for to replace it with ?? Thanks, Ben Article: 326763 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Can ANYONE ID this flying-saucer-looking electronic component? Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 19:33:34 -0800 Message-ID: <11348-438BCC0E-554@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> References: >From exray(Bill): >I had an old radio once where the audio >passed THROUGH the battery, or so it >seemed, and everyone told me I was >nuts. In every instance where i've ever seen a bias cell used, this was the case, though there may have been exceptions. Seems like it was a gambit to cut parts count and cost, if a bias cell was a penny or two cheaper than a resistor and a cap. Bill(oc) Article: 326764 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Record changer for a Philco 116-122 From: Ron Ramirez References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 03:58:33 GMT "Benjamaniac" wrote in news:dmghfb$5ref$1@news3.infoave.net: > Just picked up a nice Philco 116-122, but it's missing the > turntable, Does > anybody know which one I should be looking for to replace it with ?? WOW, you picked up a 116PX radio-phono? Great find! The 116PX originally used a two-speed automatic record changer for either 78 rpm or 33-1/3 rpm operation. Although it had the slow speed, it was not designed for the microgroove "LP" records which would not come out for 13 more years afterwards. Unfortunately, the original changer is probably unobtanium. I can copy the original Service Bulletin for you which gives an illustration of the changer (without the platter) if you like. Please e-mail me. mrphilco at philcoradio dot com. In return I would really, really like to see large (high resolution) pictures of your set. The previous year's Model 501 (16 chassis) used a similar, but not exactly the same, changer. One of those is probably unobtanium as well... -- Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ and the new Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php Article: 326765 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith Wavemagnet needed 5 pin vers. From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 04:55:02 GMT In article , k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF says... > > >Dunno .... what it the model number of the radio your working on?... >or give me the metal tag number... > >John > Sorry Mark don't have that one... maybe someone else will have one John k9uwa Article: 326766 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1133226084.311718.10770@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <_cRif.585096$_o.377832@attbi_s71> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 04:57:30 GMT In article <1133226084.311718.10770@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, pfjw@aol.com says... > > >John: > >Sure. When the net-entry of funds to stocks exceeded the net exit of >funds. That will no longer be so in 10 years or so. For the first time >in history. Really. You have to look to the long term and to a pretty >damned hard-nosed future. Not the past and unsupported hope. > >Peter Wieck >Wyncote, PA. > Peter your telling me that 10 years from now that the Stockmarket and Bond Funds and CD's at your local bank will be worth less than they are today?.... somehow I fail to believe that will happen John k9uwa Article: 326767 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Secret Santa 2005 References: <1133194585.389772.261290@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8RGif.43776$2k6.4519@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 05:00:22 GMT Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Ok people. I've gotten my list together, the assignments will go > out this evening some time. > > Santa's little helper. I'm working on it. Here's a little something to put us all in the proper mood for it. http://pvponline.com/archive/2005/pvp20051128.gif Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 326768 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT- Stylebook for Gulf Coast Rebuilding From: Larry References: <11om2upnib361@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 00:13:07 -0500 Hagstar wrote in news:11om2upnib361 @corp.supernews.com: > I don't see why we should collectively pay for some soon to decay and > blow away wooden boxes that are in fact "traditional". I fear tradition > calls for a totally unsuitable house that tries to deny the reality of > humidity, termites, and hurricanes. > > John H. > I don't see why we should collectively pay for houses to be built UNDER the water table on artificially-drained swampland, traditional or not. I'm in Charleston, SC. You cannot build a house here where the first floor is BELOW the 100 year flood plain on FEMA's map. Why should New Orleans, not one of America's better ideas, be allowed to repeat this huge mistake just for "old time's sake".... It's time to build ABOVE the sea and lake.....while we have the chance. Article: 326769 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Secret Santa 2005 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:17:05 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1133194585.389772.261290@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8RGif.43776$2k6.4519@tornado.socal.rr.com> "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:GfRif.49311$Hs.39343@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > Jeffrey D Angus wrote: >> Ok people. I've gotten my list together, the assignments will go >> out this evening some time. >> >> Santa's little helper. > > I'm working on it. Here's a little something to put us all in the > proper mood for it. http://pvponline.com/archive/2005/pvp20051128.gif > > Jeff ROTFLMAO!!!!! Article: 326770 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Battery Question Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2005 22:51:21 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1133152589.057720.47360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <09wif.83782$QM5.57245@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1133155270.740566.201640@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Mon, 28 Nov 2005 05:28:41 +0000, Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Jim Strickland wrote: >> With the advent of 'hard rubber' battery packaging, it no longer >> applies, according to this: http://www.inct.net/~autotips/battmyth.htm > > Thanks Jim. > > Although the second reason on that link makes a lot of sense for > what I've heard about concrete floors. > >> Shortly after the introduction of "Hard Rubber" containers, which >> were somewhat porous and of a less than ideal design, there was a >> chance of current to be conducted through the container of a high >> carbon content if the moist concrete floor permitted the current >> to find an electrical ground. > > Of course, batteries have been contained in high quality plastic > for the past 30-40 years or so now. But then, I started dealing > with car batteries back in the 60s and at that time, those legends > would still be fairly current. > > Jeff There is still a valid reason not to store batteries on a concrete (or any other material) floor. If you put them on a piece of wood or bricks or something else smaller than the battery, they are much easier to pick up! Of course, with more and more batteries coming with built-in handles, even this reason is going away. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. From adouglasatgis.net Wed Nov 30 01:35:45 EST 2005 Article: 326771 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: AK- How many were made? Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 06:43:19 -0500 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 5 Message-ID: References: <1133218215.287069.71890@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133231042.823985.66530@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-066.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:326771 Hi, The list is in Radio Manufacturers of the 1920s, vol.1. However it doesn't go as far as the 48. Alan Article: 326772 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <438C4814.A9F04F6A@sympatico.ca> From: John Stewart Subject: Re: Battery Question References: <1133152589.057720.47360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <09wif.83782$QM5.57245@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1133197912.764238.136970@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:22:44 -0500 Terry wrote: > "nesesu" wrote in message > news:1133197912.764238.136970@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Tom, that is the most sensible explanation I have heard on this > > subject! > > Thanks, > > Neil S. > > > I think they all made sense. > Different conditions, different eras and certain evolution of the basic > lead/acid battery product, particularly in respect of plastics available as > acid container. > Interesting. Thank you > PS. be interesting if/when automobiles adopt a higher voltage. I've heard > 'talk' of something around 42 volts? And that was not for any of the hybrids > but to save wiring costs? It would be a nominally 36 volt system at rest, 42 volts while operating. Seems it is in our future but don't know when. There have been various articles over the past few years. I thought it would be here by now. The advantage in saving the wiring cost is obvious. Not so obvious is the better 'packing factor' of the windings in the various motors & the alternator. Compare that system to the one we use today wherein the socalled 12 volt systems in use are actually 13.2 volts at rest (2.2 volts per cell). The system voltage regulator responds to temperature so while cold it can be as high as 14.4 volts & when warmed up it drifts down to 13.8 volts. I've worked on cars for 55 years, in the beginning because I couldn't afford to have someone do it for me. About five of those years were full time in a garage. Then I figured I'd better get educated! Now I still get under now & then, just last week in fact. I've never heard that battery story at all. I've had a spare battery on the concrete floor in the garage here for a few years. Used it again just a week ago & it seems quite happy. Just needs a slow charge every six months or so. Cheers, John Stewart > > That sounds to me like 20 cells; which operating between a full charge > voltage of about 2.3 volts per cell (max) and fully discharged at, say, 1.9 > volts per cell means operating voltage range of 46 to 38 volts. Kinda > different to those 6 volter car radios of the 1940s. Eh? Article: 326773 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Lyndell Scott" Subject: Need photo of Webster record changer part Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:42:01 GMT I am restoring a Zenith 7S582 that has a Webster Model 21 record changer. The swivel head assembly including the swivel spring is missing. I think I can fabricate one if I had detailed photos of it. The drawings and photos in the Riders manual aren't detailed enough. Does anyone have a Webster model 11, 21, 22, or 23 who could email me photos of the swivel head assembly from different angles? -- Audio Antiques 972-723-3930 http://home.flash.net/~lfscott/ Article: 326774 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Record changer for a Philco 116-122 From: Ron Ramirez References: <-4CdnTu5KNMAhRHenZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:54:18 GMT "Mark Oppat" wrote in news:-4CdnTu5KNMAhRHenZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@comcast.com: > Ron, were the changers Philco made or another maker like > Webster-Chicago? I know Philco made their own later, but did they for > this set too? I don't have any good documentation on this, but based on conversations I've had over the years with Doug Houston, I think it would be safe to say that the 116PX changer was probably made by a company other than Philco. The other Philco radio-phonographs made in 1936 (650PX, 640PF, 630PF, 610PF) had a single play platter and the same Victor-designed tonearm used by Philco since the 1930 Model 296. The Victor tonearm was used by Philco as late as 1937, complete with the old PHILCO-with-lightning-bolt trademark. -- Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ and the new Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php Article: 326775 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:51:15 -0800 Message-ID: <27978-438C78F3-571@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> References: hacky@smackeycrackey.com (xrongor) had this to say: >...american christians are the best >funded, best equipped for war, most >insane fanatical religious group in the >world. why? BECAUSE THEY ARE >SURE THEY ARE RIGHT. same as the >'other guys'. Are you nuts or what? I subscribe to no religion myself, but cannot let that go unanswered. There are DEGREES of religious fundamentalism- from the casual Sunday churchgoer to the zealotry of Falwell/Robertson to the manical radicalism of suicide bombers in the name of "allah". Fundamentalism runs on a scale. Our military personell, who are the BEST of the best of the human race, also happen to be largely of the Christian persuasion. Sure, it's 'casual churchgoer' fundamentalism mostly. And there are Jewish members of our Armed Forces who are likewise 'casual' in their religious persuasion. To paint our military people with the same broad brush as radical raghead terrorists is offensive in the extreme. Bill(oc) Article: 326776 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Smokey" Subject: Re: Anyone know to to re-fuzz a turntable? Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 10:20:41 -0600 Message-ID: <11oovuut22fchdf@corp.supernews.com> References: <11offih23sic13e@corp.supernews.com> Say, THANKS THANKS THANKS to all of you guys who have given me quite an education! I now know a whole lot more about this than I ever did and am researching companies that are doing it via electrostatic and will pass on the info on this forum when I find one that is willing to do single piece jobs. That failing...(gulp)---I'll try it myself (and I am sure it will LOOK LIKE I DID IT MYSELF)...but it will at least not be bare metal. Thanks again all. Smokey "xrongor" wrote in message news:dmeda6$4k0a$1@news3.infoave.net... > > "robert casey" wrote in message > news:Vcvif.6504$wf.466@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > > > >> > >> and Yes I have Flocked a couple of turntables > > > > I assume you didn't flock them up.... (Running, ducking for > > cover) :D > > get the flock out of here... > > randy > > Article: 326777 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Secret Santa 2005 References: <1133194585.389772.261290@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8RGif.43776$2k6.4519@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:36:29 GMT Ok folks, the assignments have been handed out. Remember, this was all originally Peter Wieck's fault for giving me a CRT brightener a few years ago. Blame him. ;-) Santa's Little Helper. -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 326778 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Robinson" References: <11offih23sic13e@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Anyone know to to re-fuzz a turntable? Message-ID: <4u%if.3797$P33.169@trnddc01> Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:38:24 GMT Hi, Here is a source for flock and flocking guns. http://www.donjer.com/suedetex/product.htm Also, check you local craft and/or fabric store. Many carry the stuff you need. Mark "Smokey" wrote in message news:11offih23sic13e@corp.supernews.com... > I've seen so many crummy, homebrew jobs of old metal turntables that have > had felt or velvet glued haphazardly to replace the original velvety > covering. How were metal turntables velveted when they were manufactured? > Anyone know? I'd love to learn the procedure to return my old turntables to > their original former glory. Thanks! > > Smokey > > Article: 326779 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Record changer for a Philco 116-122 From: "Radio Active" Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:11:28 -0500 Message-ID: <1133288057_42451@spool6-east.superfeed.net> References: "Benjamaniac" wrote in message news:dmghfb$5ref$1@news3.infoave.net... > Just picked up a nice Philco 116-122, but it's missing the turntable, Does > anybody know which one I should be looking for to replace it with ?? > Thanks, > Ben > > Ben': I have three old Philco changers here which were scheduled for the trash this Wednesday. One is a Webster 161-1 and one is marke 2 ? The third has no markings.? I will take pics and send them to your email address. The price is zero, just pay for the actual shipping charges. Verne ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Article: 326780 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 10:34:45 -0800 Message-ID: <19374-438C9F45-573@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> References: <1133284858.406753.305620@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Hey glad we're on the same page Peter. However you wrote, >But do have a sense of perspective: The >"Revolutionaries" were considered >terrorists some time ago. Terrorism is >almost an inevitable outgrowth of >oppression. It appears the 'perspective' that's being overlooked in the whole discussion is this: The islamic religion has never undergone a renaissance or reformation as the Western world has. It's still stuck in the 11th century in an "old testament" paradigm. The most *literal* adherents to that paradigm see all the rest of humanity as 'infidels' whom they must either kill or convert. That is their sworn duty in life. Irrespective of how they got that way, that makes them the human equivalent of rabid dogs. I really fail to see any comparison with the American revolutionaries whose fight was noble and just, against a tyrannical, unyielding state. Their agenda was not targeted on killing or converting the rest of the human race. >Those who make peaceful revolution >impossible will make violent revolution >inevitable. .As was the just impetus of the American Revolution. Bill(oc) Article: 326781 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <438CB536.CCC5F30D@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Record changer for a Philco 116-122 References: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:08:38 GMT Benjamaniac wrote: > > Just picked up a nice Philco 116-122, but it's missing the turntable, Does > anybody know which one I should be looking for to replace it with ?? > Thanks, > Ben Is anyone interested in a corrected index for the H.W. Sams RC and CM series manuals? I scanned the indexes of all the volumes, combined them and checked every entry. I am working on a CDROM of all the manuals, with a HTML index and this is the first part of the project. Each basic changer or turntable is in a separate file, and the series includes some record cutters and wire recorders. If there is enough interest i will post the index on my website. I have it in several formats, including a Microsoft Works Database file. (.wdb) It is also available in tab delimited text format to import into other databases. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 326782 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Car batteries and concrete floors Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:06:25 +0900 Message-ID: http://www.ibsa.com/www_2001/content/about_us/current/december_1999/1199_techtalk.htm Well, here we are within months of the new Millennium, and I'm writing an article about an age old question ..."Will a battery be damaged or mysteriously discharged by allowing it to sit on concrete?" At least once a month, someone calls and asks this question or asks for clarification on the subject. Fact or Fiction Well, is it true? Will a battery be damaged or discharged by letting it sit on concrete? NO! Why then do so many people believe that concrete is a battery enemy? Years ago, batteries could have been electrically discharged by sitting on a concrete floor. My dad, for instance, owned an automotive shop for many years. In fact, I grew up on a creeper. My dad reminded me time after time, "Set that battery on wood! I know batteries discharge on concrete because I've witnessed it!" And he was right at that time. Historical Basis You see, the myth that concrete drains batteries does have some historical basis. Many, many years ago, wooden battery cases encased a glass jar with the battery inside. Any moisture on the floor could cause the wood to swell and possibly fracture the glass, causing it to leak. Later came the introduction of the hard rubber cases, which were somewhat porous and had a high-carbon content. An electrical current could be conducted through this container if the moist concrete floor permitted the current to find an electrical ground. The wise advice of the old days to "keep batteries off concrete" has been passed down to us today, but it no longer applies because of the advanced technology of today's batteries. Today's Technology For more than a decade, automotive and commercial battery containers have been made of polypropylene, which is a highly insulative material. In fact, the Interstate Batteries poly material is at least five times more insulative than the old hard rubber. Also, tremendous technological improvements have been made in the seals around the posts and the vent systems, which have virtually eliminated electrolyte seepage and migration. Battery Discharging The fact is, all batteries self- discharge whether they're sitting on the shelf or on concrete. This is why we regularly rotate your inventory. As the temperature increases, a battery's self-discharge level also increases. Some lead acid batteries discharge 4% - 8% per month at a temperature of 80°F. The level of self-discharge is also contingent upon the type of lead plate alloy plus the age and cleanliness of the battery. If the battery has a surface layer of acid or grime, which is electrically conductive, it self-discharges more rapidly. This surface layer may actually allow you to measure the DC voltage across the battery's poly case (using a 10 meg-ohm digital voltmeter). For that reason, we recommend that you always keep batteries clean, whether they're in storage or in a vehicle. Grandfather Clause You may now be thinking that you know more than your grandfather, who tells you that batteries stored on concrete will be damaged. Next time your grandfather says that, I recommend that you just say "Okay" and continue about your business. I'm a grand-father now, and I know that we like to have our way and we like to be right. If my grandson, for instance, tries to tell me that concrete won't damage a battery, you know what I'll say? I'll say if you drop a battery on concrete, it will be damaged. From adouglasatgis.net Wed Nov 30 01:35:48 EST 2005 Article: 326783 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: AK- How many were made? Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:50:24 -0500 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 7 Message-ID: <3tipo1l6a8rl5e9tjj9831ggkfbbj4do9p@4ax.com> References: <1133218215.287069.71890@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133231042.823985.66530@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133277933.959410.90270@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-107.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:326783 Hi, Ralph WIlliams obtained the list of production figures from the Kent family, and let me use it in the book. Atwater Kent is unfortunately one of the few companies with production numbers (the other main one is RCA). Alan Article: 326784 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Record changer for a Philco 116-122 From: Ron Ramirez References: <1133288057_42451@spool6-east.superfeed.net> <1133293755.110560.96930@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:01:42 GMT "toxcrusadr" wrote in news:1133293755.110560.96930 @g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > You guys wanna share with the rest of us the year of manufacture of the > 116PX? Surely this was not prewar (I don't think they had 33s then), > but 13 years prior to the introduction of microgroove 33's is....when? > Inquiring minds want to know. Sorry...It's a 1936 model. -- Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ and the new Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php Article: 326785 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Transformer test. From: Ron Ramirez References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 23:05:31 GMT "Mark Oppat" wrote in news:yfWdnWpnn7BQAxHeRVn-rg@comcast.com: > A caution: on Philco mid 30's sets the pilot socket is known for a > decayed > rubber grommet. Unsolder the socket before this test, you will have > to redo it anyway, with a new insulating washer, and DONT loose the > original tit inside! On my website, I walk you through the steps necessary to rebuild those Philco pilot lamp sockets: http://www.philcoradio.com/tech/lamps.htm Very easy to do, only takes about 5-10 minutes. -- Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ and the new Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php Article: 326786 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" Subject: Kosmos radiomann Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 16:45:44 -0600 I wonder if thers a vender here in the US for these set. Kinda cool http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/radiomann/radiomann/radiomann.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3DKosmos%2Bradiomann%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG%26pwst%3D1 -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 326787 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Car batteries and concrete floors From: Larry References: <1133299388.274236.281360@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:25:40 -0500 "toxcrusadr" wrote in news:1133299388.274236.281360 @g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > The reason it doesn't make sense is that the current has to > flow from one terminal to the other in order for the battery to do > anything. Not true. There is no way to economically create a lead plate free of other ions, such as iron. So, built into every lead plate because they are so cheap, are other elements that form a local little battery that's shorted out because the iron impurity, or whatever the element is, is directly connected to the lead around it. This problem is called "local action" and it kills every battery you can buy from the cheapest lead- zinc flashlight battery to the finest battery in your collection. Burning off this ion, usually right after it is exposed, you notice nothing as there is no external connection, the battery doesn't get hot and in a lead-lead-acid battery the only way you may detect it if it is bad enough is if the specific gravity of the electrolyte drops a few points (the battery going dead is caused by it running out of electrolyte, you know). Once the impurity is eaten away by the chemical reaction, it's fine. Unfortunately, if the impurity, such as iron, is the NON-ionizing partner in this local battery, it continues until all the electrolyte is consumed and you have a "dead cell", in batteryman lingo. Because the impurity plate causing the problem is so tiny, we hope, the "leakage current" discharging this defective cell is low enough so you're not supposed to notice. Everyone expects a cheap car battery to self-discharge if left over a "long period", like that boat battery you left in the storage shed for 2 years and found it had consumed itself into oblivion. That's why it died...impurities ate it. Impurities eat all of them. I've often thought it was put there on purpose to sell you a new battery every 3 years at the end of the warranty period, eh? Makes good economic sense for the battery industry. Article: 326788 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Plant A Variations Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:45:15 -0500 Message-ID: <11optgrijkhet5c@corp.supernews.com> Here is a good example of how NOT to write an ad- http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-Clinton-Radio_W0QQitemZ6582024147 This exact same radio as you recall sold for over 6 bills last winter >from one of eBay's Radio Refinishing Pornographers. Note it is very close to this unknown (but close to International Radio schematics) radio I restored and posted about recently- http://home.att.net/~yonny/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-812974.html Notice they just turned the exact same design on its side :) John H. Article: 326789 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Plant A Variations Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:48:20 -0500 Message-ID: <11optmklkaug4d0@corp.supernews.com> References: <11optgrijkhet5c@corp.supernews.com> > Question & Answer Answered On > Q: Any idea what the large round object is next to the speaker on the front panel? Thanks > Nov-24-05 > A: its the tuning dial thing.This radio is in rough shape I dont want to mislead anyone ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! John H. Article: 326790 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:59:03 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Kosmos radiomann References: Message-ID: <2812f$438cf95c$4232bde5$12265@COQUI.NET> Brian Hill wrote: > I wonder if thers a vender here in the US for these set. Kinda cool > > http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/radiomann/radiomann/radiomann.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3DKosmos%2Bradiomann%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG%26pwst%3D1 > > Here's the US version. http://www.thamesandkosmos.com/products/ra/ra2.html I think $120 is a bit much. History of the set is here: http://www.oldradioworld.de/radiom_e.htm -Bill Article: 326791 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: <2812f$438cf95c$4232bde5$12265@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Kosmos radiomann Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:01:28 -0600 "Bill" wrote in message news:2812f$438cf95c$4232bde5$12265@COQUI.NET... > Brian Hill wrote: >> I wonder if thers a vender here in the US for these set. Kinda cool >> >> http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/radiomann/radiomann/radiomann.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3DKosmos%2Bradiomann%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG%26pwst%3D1 >> >> > Here's the US version. > http://www.thamesandkosmos.com/products/ra/ra2.html > > I think $120 is a bit much. > > History of the set is here: > http://www.oldradioworld.de/radiom_e.htm > > > -Bill Boy! they want enough for it! BH Article: 326792 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" Subject: Cool tube pic Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:05:49 -0600 I got this out of one of my old 1963 S&M magazines. It's over on alt.binaries.pictures.radio -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 326793 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: Check out what I won Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:08:08 -0600 "Daniele" wrote in message news:v8Nif.11564$S6.198377@twister2.libero.it... > > Brian Hill wrote: > >> This has everything. >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7565180167 > > ..the early version of item 5828253170? ;-)) > > -- > > Daniele ^___^ > http://www.tuberadio.it > > I want that too! :) -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 326794 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Record changer for a Philco 116-122 Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 20:23:12 -0500 Message-ID: <11opvo42b2e04f4@corp.supernews.com> References: <-4CdnTu5KNMAhRHenZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@comcast.com> Mark Oppat wrote: > Ron, were the changers Philco made Mark, do you often post at 4:30 am ? Also, don't listen to him. They aren't THAT bad to recap. Lots of baker'slite tar babies, true, but these are hard only for those (sigh) who insist of removing each one and boiling in turpentine to remove the tar. I have a 116X chassis on the bench now, and several variations on display. John H. Article: 326795 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: Kosmos radiomann Message-ID: <8b7jf.7096$6e5.4180@trnddc09> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:24:20 GMT Thanks for posting the link! I have one of these kits from the 50's (minus the instruction book, naturally), and I had no idea of its history, nor any clue how to hook it up. -- Mike Schultz "Brian Hill" wrote in message news:na5jf.12258$Fq3.5362@fe02.lga... >I wonder if thers a vender here in the US for these set. Kinda cool > > http://216.239.39.104/translate_c?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.mypage.bluewin.ch/radiomann/radiomann/radiomann.htm&prev=/search%3Fq%3DKosmos%2Bradiomann%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG%26pwst%3D1 > > > -- > > Regards > B.H. > > Brian's Basement > http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm > > Brian's Radio Universe > http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm > Article: 326796 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Amazing Sparton Nocturnes Auction -Sage_Sparton_Nocturne#D4173... Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 01:45:25 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4716-43809F30-122@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> A coda to this. A friend who went to the auction said the copper Nocturne looked very new. All replacement mirrors, and the back looked way too new. It went for $58,000. The blue Nocturne looked more original, but still with replaced or re-silvered mirrors, and went for $62,000. He said overall prices were high. A kinda ratty Bluebird got $3K, which is about right for one in nice condition. I guess the moral of the story is, don't expect to save a buck or two at an auction where folks are prepared to drop close to six figures. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326797 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "oknudson" Subject: Kimball tone arm wanted Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 19:56:52 -0600 Message-ID: <438d0700$0$3763$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Where could I get a Kimball tone arm for a console phono, ca. 1918? Thank you. Article: 326798 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: The Rarest Atwater Kent Breadboard? Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 02:04:22 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1132427995.725858.248190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1132428498.442582.261960@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> In "Gary Tayman" writes: >Actually, I like the idea of "Tayman Electrical" continuing the name that >was conceived in the early 1920's, having to do with a radio shop. However >at the time, this was a store that sold Edison Mazda light bulbs, radio >tubes, wire, and related items as the bread-and-butter products. They also >sold light fixtures, chandeliers, vacuum cleaners, fans, and of course the >hot new product of the day, radios. The featured brands were Atwater-Kent, >Silver Marshall, and Crosley. Today the name has a problem of being more >associated with an electrical contractor. People who find my name through >the Chamber of Commerce ask if I deal with residential or commercial. So >I've thought about changing the name to "Tayman's Radio Shoppe" or Tayman's >Collector Car Audio." However I don't want to deal with changing the >business license, but if a ficticious name alone will let me use it, I >might -- just haven't decided how to do it yet. I like the name "Tayman Electrical"! It has a nice ring to it. I work for Company 3 (www.company3.com). People not in the business think we're with the fire department. You'll probably get some confused callers no matter what you name your business, unless you call it "We Fix Automotive Radios Older Than 40 Years and Nothing Else". Even then you'd probably get a few wrong inquiries. I also collect antique fans, and there's a guy who used to have a shop in Miami called "The Blade & Cage". Bet he fielded a few odd calls. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326799 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <438766ca$0$21267$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr> Subject: Re: Save your world Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:02:12 -0500 "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message news:J7ydndmKdaYIRxHenZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@bright.net... > >> >> >> Guess I'll never try that, 'cause I'm a vegetarian (i.e. I only eat >> vegetables). I've always wondered what a humanitarian eats... > Buck, > > This takes me back to my ghost post and your comment about CRS. Have you > done any research on vitamin B-12? I did and went out yesterday and bought > some. > > I'm not a vegetarian, but I found several comments that vegans should use > B-12 supplements. > > Afrer a few more months I'll get back with a report on my memory > improvement. If I forget to, it means the B-12 didn't work. > > Stewart Interesting comment, Stewart, I'll wait for the results. By the way, I'm not vegan, I eat eggs and dairy. If I remember correctly, that is. :) Article: 326800 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <11optgrijkhet5c@corp.supernews.com> <11optmklkaug4d0@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Plant A Variations Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:07:39 -0500 "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11optmklkaug4d0@corp.supernews.com... > > Question & Answer Answered On >> Q: Any idea what the large round object is next to the speaker on the >> front panel? Thanks >> Nov-24-05 A: its the tuning dial thing.This radio is in rough shape I >> dont want to mislead anyone > > ROTFLMAO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > John H. I liked the description up top: "I plugged it in and it hums loudly if you turn it up.The green light lights up for foreign radio The orange lights up for amature .I dont know if anyone is interested in this or not " The green light lights up for foreign radio? Wonder if Canadian is considered foreign in this case. And, "amature" says it all. But the dark pictures, taken without the benefit of the camera's macro setting, plus the photographer moves during exposure so that the resultant blur makes the tubes look as though they are jumping? Priceless! Article: 326801 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Secret Santa arrived early! Thank you Verne Folk! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 02:47:19 GMT I received a package this weekend. The box was a little smallish for a car radio, but since when do people pack these properly? Probably has another busted volume control -- and I'm really getting desperate for replacements. So I opened the box, and boy did my eyes pop out! I received a box full of NOS Delco/CTS volume controls! Verne enclosed a note stating he was about to throw them out -- then thought of me. Unbelievable! I feel as if I found the end of the rainbow and retrieved that pot of gold! Verne, please let me know how I can return the favor! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 326802 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: OT- Stylebook for Gulf Coast Rebuilding Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:12:43 -0500 Message-ID: <11oq65ikfsjdda4@news.supernews.com> References: <11om2upnib361@corp.supernews.com> "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns971D24FEE7A0noonehomecom@63.223.7.253... > Hagstar wrote in news:11om2upnib361 > @corp.supernews.com: > >> I don't see why we should collectively pay for some soon to decay and >> blow away wooden boxes that are in fact "traditional". I fear tradition >> calls for a totally unsuitable house that tries to deny the reality of >> humidity, termites, and hurricanes. >> >> John H. >> > > I don't see why we should collectively pay for houses to be built UNDER > the water table on artificially-drained swampland, traditional or not. > > I'm in Charleston, SC. You cannot build a house here where the first > floor is BELOW the 100 year flood plain on FEMA's map. Why should New > Orleans, not one of America's better ideas, be allowed to repeat this > huge mistake just for "old time's sake".... > > It's time to build ABOVE the sea and lake.....while we have the chance. How about the west coast's shorelines? Can we build homes that we KNOW will fall off a cliff within 20 years, should they not be wiped away in the next storm? Article: 326803 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: OT- Stylebook for Gulf Coast Rebuilding References: <11om2upnib361@corp.supernews.com> <11oq65ikfsjdda4@news.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 03:19:47 GMT Buck Frobisher wrote: > How about the west coast's shorelines? Can we build homes that > we KNOW will fall off a cliff within 20 years, should they not > be wiped away in the next storm? Funny thing about that. Considering the length of the California coast line, that we've only had a few houses slide off is amazing. Especially when you consider the amount of over building that is allowed to happen here. We lose more houses, by a considerable margin, due to idiots setting fire to them with do it yourself repairs. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 326804 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Kimball tone arm wanted From: lherault@bu.edu References: <438d0700$0$3763$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 03:24:56 GMT Message-ID: <438d1ad2_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> Try George Vollema, Great Lakes Antique Phonograps. victrola@triton.net Article: 326805 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Filter cap replacements in general, and 6KG6 tubes specifically Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 04:26:25 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "Phil Nelson" writes: >I have tried reforming old electrolytics and the results were not lasting, >when it worked at all. Having burned out a couple of power transformers by >leaving old electrolytics in place, I will never do it again. Same here. Maybe we should make up a "newcomer's kit" -- a transformer that looks like it's been in a forest fire, a 5U4 with weld spots on the plates, couple resistors charred beyond recognition. That way they won't have to make their own! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326806 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1133284858.406753.305620@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1133292064.434627.162120@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 04:53:41 GMT In article <1133292064.434627.162120@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, pfjw@aol.com says... > > >But there will be change there. It is shaping up to be "not pretty" >unless the ruling classes are struck by inspiration "on the road to >Damascus". The actual odds of that are pretty slim. Once the Americans >are gone from the region, > >Peter Wieck >Wyncote, PA > sounds to me like that is already the plan at this point.... didn't know that the Americans actually planned on leaving completely... bet they don't leave Iraq completely... and with a form of democratic gubmit in Iraq and it begins to thrive.... already there are young people and many many women in Iran that are NOT in favor of the Mullahs and their way of running the show..... pretty soon those Saudi Women get the idea that the rest of the worlds women don't have to live like they do.... I spent a year or so a very long time ago in Korea .. and I watched a couple of things happen.... first the Korean women at that time were definitely 2nd class citizens... taught to eat last after all the men folks and male children... walk a few paces behind their man.... yet the guys that married and brought those same ladies to the USA well it didn't take them 6 months here to become accoustomed to the USA version of Ladies Rights... and today I Korea and Japan... bet it is a whole lot different there today than it was in the 60's... Brenda can answer that one for sure... Bet it wakes up some of the middle eastern ruling families that they are either going to change... or as Peter says... revolt is around the corner.. John k9uwa Article: 326807 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1133226084.311718.10770@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 04:57:19 GMT In article <1133226084.311718.10770@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, pfjw@aol.com says... > > >John: > >Sure. When the net-entry of funds to stocks exceeded the net exit of >funds. That will no longer be so in 10 years or so. For the first time >in history. Really. You have to look to the long term and to a pretty >damned hard-nosed future. Not the past and unsupported hope. > >Peter Wieck >Wyncote, PA. > Well then the Gubmint will just have to print up a little more funny money and pay the bill... you want to see a bunch of old people go postal?... just tell them that they aren't going to get their SS checks.... or that they are going to be cut a little.. Yup one of these days the plan is going to have to bleed a whole lot of red ink .... its just a question of how bad for how long it will be before it again is on more solid footing.. John k9uwa Article: 326808 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Plant A Variations Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 21:59:45 -0700 Message-ID: <7977-438D31C1-1108@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: I was looking at this one tonight . The dial scale looked a bit crusty . 40 bucks though .. not bad Article: 326809 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Is it just a whim .. ebay radios Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:08:43 -0700 Message-ID: <7977-438D33DB-1111@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> I dont follow ebay much anymore because my webtv can take up to 1 to 3 minutes to load and see one auction . That aside i am a bit behind . I have seen 2 or 3 somewhat average but very nice radios go for lots of dough lately . I wonder if its the time of year or maybe the fact the world is bouncing back from some major events in recent past . Here is one example . http://cgi.ebay.com/Beautiful-working-prewar-Philco-wood-radio_W0QQitemZ7366860683QQcategoryZ12QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Article: 326810 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <438D369E.D48C6556@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: The Rarest Atwater Kent Breadboard? References: <1132427995.725858.248190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1132428498.442582.261960@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 05:20:39 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > > I also collect antique fans, and there's a guy who used to > have a shop in Miami called "The Blade & Cage". Bet he fielded > a few odd calls. :) > Tim Mullen Could be, but then we have no idea what went on in the back room, do we? ;-) -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 326811 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Is it just a whim .. ebay radios Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:44:47 -0700 Message-ID: <7977-438D3C4F-1117@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <7977-438D33DB-1111@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Then if i was spending 800 bucks i would rather have sunk it into this http://cgi.ebay.com/RARE-1930s-ZENITH-715-TOMBSTONE_W0QQitemZ6582043503QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Article: 326812 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: NOT_MY_REAL@email.com (Scott W.Harvey) Subject: Re: OT- Stylebook for Gulf Coast Rebuilding Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 18:20:39 GMT Message-ID: <438d991f.7191777@enews.newsguy.com> References: <11om2upnib361@corp.supernews.com> <11oq65ikfsjdda4@news.supernews.com> On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 03:19:47 GMT, Jeffrey D Angus wrote: >Funny thing about that. Considering the length of the California >coast line, that we've only had a few houses slide off is amazing. >Especially when you consider the amount of over building that is >allowed to happen here. Here in Northern California, It is almost impossible to get a permit to build a new home right on the coastline now....The desire for a pristine coastline is the driver more than safety. Any home construction that I see with spectacular ocean views is set back quite aways from the ocean and cliffs, so much so that most people buying homes now will probably be dead of old age before erosion from the high tides becomes a serious problem. -Scott Article: 326813 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: Refinishing Repwood Question Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 09:47:07 GMT The best way to find Emerson schematics is by chassis type. Emerson tended to put the model number on the thin cardboard back which is almost always missing. Riders didn't always list every model number, but they did list every chassis type. It's confusing, but once you get used to their system, its fairly logical. In your case, BM-247 is a type BM chassis in a type 247 cabinet. The BM chassis uses 6D6, 6C6, 25L6, 25Z6, and ballast. That's obviously not what you have. I can see in the picture of your chassis on your website the little paper sticker on the back of your chassis, it has the letters DB followed by the serial number. It is a DB chassis type. Look in Riders for any set with a DB in the model number (e.g. DB-296, DB-301), and you will find the correct schematic. What you have is a DB-247. -- Mike Schultz "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:naSdnRdK4Ln1sxDenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@giganews.com... >I stripped the entire cabinet with Zip-Strip, which didn't harm the repwood >a bit. Then I sprayed the cabinet and front with dark walnut toning lacquer >(all I had on hand), which came out much too dark for my taste. I washed it >all off again with lacquer thinner and plan to start over. > > I have not used ANYTHING abrasive on the repwood -- just a small > medium-stiff brush and plenty of lacquer thinner to clean out the details. > > I'm convinced that the original finish on the front was brown paint, while > the rest of the cabinet was finished in lacquer. I haven't decided yet > whether to paint the front and tone the cabinet to match, or just try a > lighter toning lacquer on everything. > > Along the way, I got the idea that it might be fun to make a mold of the > front panel before refinishing. Then I could make things like night lights > or clocks for my little nieces & nephews. That idea -- and the whole > project -- is on hold until I learn more about making molds & casts. > Making molds doesn't look difficult, but I would be pretty heartbroken if > I did anything bad to the original front in the process. > > Do you happen to have a schematic? I looked in the usual places for > Emerson BM-247 but didn't turn up anything online. I can recap it without > that, but I like to have a schematic for everything that I redo. I also > have a small question whether this is the correct chassis. There are two > extra holes in the bottom of the cabinet that don't match up with anything > on the chassis (?!?). The dial looks correct, however, and everything else > matches up OK. > > Based on an earlier post, I get the idea that Eddie B. has done one of > these before. > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > To contact me via email, go to http://antiqueradio.org/contact.htm . > > > "Blacksmith" wrote in message > news:a59qo1ts96p8iqaeienl0ubedmuumg4g1r@4ax.com... >> >> I'm recapping a Snow White radio just like Phil Nelson's in a previous >> post. The customer wants it refinished somehow. I saw how nice his >> looked after stripping and am wondering how it came out. >> >> Phil, are you there? I don't have your email address. >> >> Can you fill me in on what you learned about refinishing it before I >> screw this one up? >> >> Can you post a picture of how it came out? >> >> Anyone else out there ever refinish one? > > Article: 326814 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Is it just a whim .. ebay radios Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:22:29 -0500 Message-ID: <11or2rnjmsogo28@corp.supernews.com> References: <7977-438D33DB-1111@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Mark Oppat wrote: > That seller is Igor Golioto, And both of you know, right, that this is the second auction for this set this month? It sold for the about same price recently, then the high bidders realized what one of these usually goes for and backed out. Let's hope this auction gets paid for........... John H. Article: 326815 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Refinishing Repwood Question References: Message-ID: <1qhjf.45537$2k5.27825@dukeread09> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 08:02:43 -0500 The product Castmold-SR would be good for making the mold. It's a very flexible silicone rubber, available from The Castolite Company, Woodstock, Ill 888-227-8654. Ken Phil Nelson wrote: > I stripped the entire cabinet with Zip-Strip, which didn't harm the repwood > a bit. Then I sprayed the cabinet and front with dark walnut toning lacquer > (all I had on hand), which came out much too dark for my taste. I washed it > all off again with lacquer thinner and plan to start over. > > I have not used ANYTHING abrasive on the repwood -- just a small > medium-stiff brush and plenty of lacquer thinner to clean out the details. > > I'm convinced that the original finish on the front was brown paint, while > the rest of the cabinet was finished in lacquer. I haven't decided yet > whether to paint the front and tone the cabinet to match, or just try a > lighter toning lacquer on everything. > > Along the way, I got the idea that it might be fun to make a mold of the > front panel before refinishing. Then I could make things like night lights > or clocks for my little nieces & nephews. That idea -- and the whole > project -- is on hold until I learn more about making molds & casts. Making > molds doesn't look difficult, but I would be pretty heartbroken if I did > anything bad to the original front in the process. > > Do you happen to have a schematic? I looked in the usual places for Emerson > BM-247 but didn't turn up anything online. I can recap it without that, but > I like to have a schematic for everything that I redo. I also have a small > question whether this is the correct chassis. There are two extra holes in > the bottom of the cabinet that don't match up with anything on the chassis > (?!?). The dial looks correct, however, and everything else matches up OK. > > Based on an earlier post, I get the idea that Eddie B. has done one of these > before. > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > To contact me via email, go to http://antiqueradio.org/contact.htm . > > > "Blacksmith" wrote in message > news:a59qo1ts96p8iqaeienl0ubedmuumg4g1r@4ax.com... > >>I'm recapping a Snow White radio just like Phil Nelson's in a previous >>post. The customer wants it refinished somehow. I saw how nice his >>looked after stripping and am wondering how it came out. >> >>Phil, are you there? I don't have your email address. >> >>Can you fill me in on what you learned about refinishing it before I >>screw this one up? >> >>Can you post a picture of how it came out? >> >>Anyone else out there ever refinish one? > > > Article: 326816 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Is it just a whim .. ebay radios From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <7977-438D33DB-1111@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <11or2rnjmsogo28@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <4Whjf.581229$x96.298988@attbi_s72> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 13:37:04 GMT In article <11or2rnjmsogo28@corp.supernews.com>, yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net says... > > > >And both of you know, right, that this is the second auction for this >set this month? It sold for the about same price recently, then the high >bidders realized what one of these usually goes for and backed out. >Let's hope this auction gets paid for........... > >John H. > I would imagine that this time he will get paid... pretty rare Philco piece. The other bullet shaped Philco's are pretty good sellers but as Mark said much more common... usually 400 bucks would buy one that was a perfect restoration.... this one... well I Have a lot of pictures in this computer or lots of radios... I didn't have this model ... tells me I Have never seen on on Internet anyplace or I would have saved the picture before... The Zenith that Ken pointed out... if it was restored to the level of the Philco I bet it would have outdone the Philco auction... Ken and most of the rest of us look at a radio and tend to not think about the refinish work .. or the recap work.. as we do it ourselves.. but to the world market for the radios... many of those people will put a considerably higher price on a radio that has already had all that stuff done to it as they don't know how to do it themselves... or just plain have enough money they don't care to learn either.. John k9uwa Article: 326817 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Is it just a whim .. ebay radios Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 06:38:37 -0700 Message-ID: <26586-438DAB5D-902@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <11or2rnjmsogo28@corp.supernews.com> I have seen that model Phico show up over the years and didnt realze it was rare-ish . I have one in that condition minus the `Philco dial bulb` & have had it for some 20 years . I also notice several other random very nicely restored table type radios going in the 300$ range . I will just say its the ebay wierdness .. unless it keeps up :-) Article: 326818 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Refinishing Repwood Question From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1qhjf.45537$2k5.27825@dukeread09> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:10:30 GMT In article <1qhjf.45537$2k5.27825@dukeread09>, wklwns@cox.net says... > > >The product Castmold-SR would be good for making the mold. It's a very >flexible silicone rubber, available from The Castolite Company, >Woodstock, Ill 888-227-8654. Ken > Two more of these Mold Products are... Smooth-On and Alumalite ... Jean has used both in making molds for various parts we needed. After a bit of experience with both she says she likes the Smooth-On product better for two reasons.. #1.. it isn't as runny as the alumalite as in your making a copy of a little section on the front of something and you can just paint the stuff on over the area and it stays put pretty well until it has set up... where the alumalite one you have to have something around the outside... modeling clay to stop the stuff from flowing where you do NOT want it. #2 reason is that the Smooth On mold when completed has more flexibility to spread it out to get the part out of the inside of your mold.. like a knob that you made a mold for... One of her latest projects is moving along slowly.. I think its a Philco model 18 that has a two part escutcheon.. the inside piece is a very thin piece of tin and most of them are either missing or broken where the bar goes across between the dial and shadow meter.. she is making a 2nd mold so that she can do two of them at a time.. the first part that she turned out was pretty close.. there would be a little flashing to trim off of parts of it where the two part mold sets together... she said the next one will be better... John k9uwa Article: 326819 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Frank K." Subject: Hickok t/tester meter... Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 08:37:58 -0600 I have a Hickok tube tester built for W/Electric, model is LS-5727-L1. The meter is open. Anyone have one, or know of a source for replacement or repair? THANKS! frank K in Okla City Article: 326820 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "MIT" References: <1133292064.434627.162120@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8129-438CBFD5-528@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> <1133298732.925691.296680@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:56:36 GMT some would say peters assertions are certianly asinine at the very least. count your blessings-we can all be thankfull that we dont have to live with it. mit "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1133298732.925691.296680@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... | Must be in my killfile, that one. Certainly such assertions are asinine | at the very least. | | Peter Wieck | Wyncote, PA | Article: 326821 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." Subject: Wurlitzer Organ Chassis - Valuable??? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:22:55 GMT I just listed an old power amp and preamp chassis', from an old Wurlitzer organ, on Ebay last night. In just over 12 hours, I've picked up 12 watchers (and 2 bids) already; I've sold hundreds of items on Ebay and I've never seen one take off like this before. I had almost scrapped these units for the parts, but at the last minute I decided to list them just for the fun of it. Are they actually of value, and if so, why? I know the tubes and parts are worth something, but I never expected these would get so much interest >from potential bidders. I won't bother linking to the actual auction, as that is frowned upon in this group. The listing can be easily found by searching for "Wurlitzer chassis" if you want to see it for yourself. Article: 326822 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1133355859.370470.305020@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Refinishing Repwood Question Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 15:34:13 GMT "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1133355859.370470.305020@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > all these snow whites are making me jealous. phil if you make a mold, > i would like to have a front. Same here Phil. If you make repros of these, I would gladly pay for one or two for myself. I never realized how beautiful these sets were until I saw the picture of the stripped front. jim menning Article: 326823 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: A GREAT scratch remover Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:34:26 -0500 Some may know about this product, but all should. Tibet Almond Stick, mfg by the Zenith Chemical Works, Inc, Addison, Ill. Works on all types of wood. You won't believe it. Ken Article: 326824 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: UPS Rate Increase References: <1133292064.434627.162120@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8129-438CBFD5-528@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> <1133298732.925691.296680@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <5ukjf.5751$wi2.4714@bignews1.bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:35:54 -0600 MIT wrote: > some would say peters assertions are certianly asinine at the very least. > count your blessings-we can all be thankfull that we dont have to live with it. Some might say that--hell they will/have--but none of them will back up their own opposing beliefs with the kind of reasoned argument and personal experience (not to mention solid historical evidence) with which Peter has done. jak > mit > > "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1133298732.925691.296680@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > | Must be in my killfile, that one. Certainly such assertions are asinine > | at the very least. > | > | Peter Wieck > | Wyncote, PA > | > > Article: 326825 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: Battery Question References: <1133152589.057720.47360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:34:06 -0700 Urban legend. Check the FAQ on any of the battery manufacturer's website. Most of them address it. For example, Interstate Battery: http://www.ibsa.com/www_2001/content/faqs/tech_talk/maintenance/storing.htm Bill --------------------------- tchrme wrote: > Please help settle a slightly related topic question for me. My > daughter was told that putting a car battery on the ground for a length > of time is bad for it. Somewhere in the past I heard something like > this. Is it an urban legend or does it have any truth in it? I can't > think of any electrical or chemical problem this would cause. Thanks > ahead of time for settling a bet I made with her. Mike KF6KXG > Article: 326826 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: Battery Question References: <1133152589.057720.47360@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <09wif.83782$QM5.57245@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 10:48:16 -0700 Actually, lead-acid batteries self-discharge more slowly when they are cold. I routinely leave my pickup truck in winter storage for 6 months in an unheated garage in Maine. When I return, I simply reattach the negative cable, and it has never failed to start the engine on the first try. Bill ================== John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > As an old Guy... I also have always planted them on wooden board. > I might make one comment as to yet today why they discharge less > on a wooden board than setting on the concrete.. > > temperature ... the concrete is cold and the wooden board somewhat > insulates the battery from the floor.... now that wouldn't apply > much to you guys that live in the southland... but it certainly > does to those of us up north!.. > > John k9uwa > Article: 326827 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Fred Wesner Subject: Re: Very unusual Zenith console on ebay, not mine References: <1133372794.472244.122420@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:12:15 GMT Terry S wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-ZENITH-FLOOR-MODEL-ART-DECO-RADIO_W0QQitemZ6584501101 > > Terry. > I wonder if this uses the infamous upside down bakelite AA5/6 chassis. The knob layout sure looks the same. Nice cabinet, but that chassis, although rare, was a nightmare piece of junk. I remember servicing a few table models in the 60's and nothing except the tubes was standard. Ifs molded into the chassis along with the volume control. Upside down design heat fried everyting in the table sets. The console may fare better. Fred Article: 326828 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: nospam4me@mytrashmail.com Subject: Re: Record changer for a Philco 116-122 Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 21:28:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1133288057_42451@spool6-east.superfeed.net> <1133293755.110560.96930@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133363590.169651.103890@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1133379567.213318.182780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1133384386.240474.165670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> toxcrusadr wrote: > None of which really explains why Philco would have put a 33 speed on a > 1936 radio-phono. Even if movie soundtracks were on 12" discs then, > who would be playing those at home anyway? Were they anticipating that > the medium would take off and be used for general music reproduction? > Tox (RCA) Victor offered some 33 1/3 rpm records during the early and mid 1930s. -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Herb Oxley From: address IS Valid. Article: 326829 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Is it just a whim .. ebay radios References: <7977-438D33DB-1111@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 21:57:51 GMT He also had another Philco 48-460 which ended around $800(unbelievable price for this radio) and it is relisted. I would have given the joker neg feedback but then you get one in return I guess. He does have the Midas touch when it comes to Ebay. Ken G. wrote: > I dont follow ebay much anymore because my webtv can take up to 1 to 3 > minutes to load and see one auction . That aside i am a bit behind . > > I have seen 2 or 3 somewhat average but very nice radios go for lots of > dough lately . I wonder if its the time of year or maybe the fact the > world is bouncing back from some major events in recent past . > Here is one example . > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Beautiful-working-prewar-Philco-wood-radio_W0QQitemZ7366860683QQcategoryZ12QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > Article: 326830 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1133372794.472244.122420@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133383357.318271.169140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133384565.628326.56810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Very unusual Zenith console on ebay, not mine Message-ID: <%gpjf.2239$4v.1960@fed1read03> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:59:54 -0500 "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1133384565.628326.56810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > Yeah, but it's a rare Zenith. Couldn't someone restore it and sell it > to the Zenith junkies for big bux? I haven't seen the auction yet, > maybe it's ugly. But then, so was the front of the Edsel. > > Tox It would be worth a lot more "UNRESTORED" to a real collector. Peter > Article: 326831 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <7977-438D33DB-1111@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Is it just a whim .. ebay radios Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:24:04 -0500 EBay is weird. I watched a Silvertone Worlds Fair cathedral close for under 230 bucks, normally a 700 dollar set. Ditto for an AK-447, which went for about 1/3 the normal eBay price. Pete Article: 326832 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1133355859.370470.305020@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5JGdnSEbIYW7sxPeRVn-qQ@giganews.com> Subject: Re: Refinishing Repwood Question Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 23:41:38 GMT I have a semi-basket case Emerson with repwood front the cabinet of which is now in several pieces. This is of a vintage similar to the Snow White. I can say with certainty that the front on this particular set was just nailed on, with no glue at all. I count 14 nails on this one (4 top and bottom, and 3 on each side). -- Mike Schultz "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:5JGdnSEbIYW7sxPeRVn-qQ@giganews.com... >> Same here Phil. If you make repros of these > > I have an acquaintance in the Portland area who is experienced in making > molds and would make one for me. It would be much easier to do if the > panel were removed from the cabinet, however. > > I count nine little nails holding the panel to the cabinet. > > Eddie, do you happen to know if that panel was glued on as well as nailed? > > If it's glued on, I won't even attempt to remove it. The panel is > absolutely tight against the cabinet body, so I could possibly work a > razor blade in to try to pry out the nails, but nothing bigger than that. > And even then I'd be afraid of damaging the repwood by prying. > > If the panel is not taken off, that means building a dam around the panel > and putting a piece of glass (or whatever) behind the openings to contain > the mold material. > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > Article: 326833 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Very unusual Zenith console on ebay, not mine Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:34:44 -0700 Message-ID: <13799-438E3714-1089@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <1133386902.951029.44420@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> even if rare..it's a POS in my opinion....hey i sound like ken don't i? GOOD OLD rar+p i love it ! To make matters even better I AM the one who got the other console with the red grille cloth . These recalled up-side-down Zeniths had an early bakelite chassis and later a metal chassis . The chassis in the console 6P453? i got is metal The radio i am in need of parts for and restoring 6P430 has a bakelite chassis . I dont know if Zenith ever recalled the metal chassis ? I am glad its a piece of junk . Its my piece of junk :-) and i will enjoy every miserable drunken minute of it . Article: 326834 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 19:51:22 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Very unusual Zenith console on ebay, not mine References: <1133386902.951029.44420@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <13799-438E3714-1089@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <493dc$438e3afc$4232be59$7338@COQUI.NET> Ken G. wrote: > I dont know if Zenith ever recalled the metal chassis ? I am glad its a > piece of junk . Its my piece of junk :-) and i will enjoy every > miserable drunken minute of it . > Somebody must have brought home a whole case of box wine :) -Bill Article: 326835 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Way under rated .. ebay radio Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:44:45 -0700 Message-ID: <13801-438E396D-51@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6581002323&indexURL=0 ``radiobob`` got a neet radio about free . These are not common . I have one in the ``to do`` pile Article: 326836 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Anyone know to to re-fuzz a turntable? Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:57:04 -0700 Message-ID: <13800-438E3C50-266@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <1133294010.326240.241130@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> The cheap craft store kits work ok . It comes with a bottle so you can blow the flock onto the glued surface . If i did it again i would load far more glue onto the subject patter first . and dont forget to prepaint the piece the color you are flocking Mine was red , childs 78 player . Article: 326837 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: A GREAT scratch remover Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 16:50:49 -0700 Message-ID: <13799-438E3AD9-1091@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: Yes it does work good ... but it evapotates away before very long muck like old english polish . Wood stain , Danish oil or felt pens last much longer . Each has its ``place`` . Article: 326838 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Way under rated .. ebay radio References: <13801-438E396D-51@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 00:12:17 GMT Shoot, wish I had seen that before since that's my hometown! Ken G. wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6581002323&indexURL=0 > > ``radiobob`` got a neet radio about free . These are not common . I have > one in the ``to do`` pile > Article: 326839 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: <1133390327.690101.281010@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: BEWARE david munro keene ontario Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 18:13:35 -0600 wrote in message news:1133390327.690101.281010@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > Amazing, this guy is still up to his old tricks. Same address, same > name, same MO. > > He ripped me several years ago for a Uniden 2510. If theres so many, you should all form a club and go vacation in Canada next summer, right on his lawn and make him pay for the trip. :) -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 326840 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1133355859.370470.305020@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5JGdnSEbIYW7sxPeRVn-qQ@giganews.com> Subject: Re: Refinishing Repwood Question Message-ID: Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 00:28:30 GMT I suspect the safest way to remove a Repwood front panel would be to push it out from the inside rather than prying around the edges. You would want to use some sort of flat object like the end of a board to distribute the stress over as wide an area as possible, and tap gently on the other end of the board with a mallet. Keep moving the board around as you do this. The Repwood isn't as brittle as you might think. On the cabinet I mentioned, the top piece has broken away from the rest of the cabinet. When it broke away (that's the way I bought it), all of the four little nails through the Repwood into the top piece were bent close to a 90 degree angle. One actually broke off. There was no damage whatsoever to the Repwood piece. -- Mike Schultz "Mike Schultz" wrote in message news:SMqjf.177$fY3.71@trnddc01... >I have a semi-basket case Emerson with repwood front the cabinet of which >is now in several pieces. This is of a vintage similar to the Snow White. >I can say with certainty that the front on this particular set was just >nailed on, with no glue at all. I count 14 nails on this one (4 top and >bottom, and 3 on each side). > > -- > Mike Schultz > > > "Phil Nelson" wrote in message > news:5JGdnSEbIYW7sxPeRVn-qQ@giganews.com... >>> Same here Phil. If you make repros of these >> >> I have an acquaintance in the Portland area who is experienced in making >> molds and would make one for me. It would be much easier to do if the >> panel were removed from the cabinet, however. >> >> I count nine little nails holding the panel to the cabinet. >> >> Eddie, do you happen to know if that panel was glued on as well as >> nailed? >> >> If it's glued on, I won't even attempt to remove it. The panel is >> absolutely tight against the cabinet body, so I could possibly work a >> razor blade in to try to pry out the nails, but nothing bigger than that. >> And even then I'd be afraid of damaging the repwood by prying. >> >> If the panel is not taken off, that means building a dam around the panel >> and putting a piece of glass (or whatever) behind the openings to contain >> the mold material. >> >> Regards, >> >> Phil Nelson >> Phil's Old Radios >> http://antiqueradio.org/index.html >> >> > > Article: 326841 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: The Rarest Atwater Kent Breadboard? Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 01:06:41 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1132427995.725858.248190@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1132428498.442582.261960@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <438D369E.D48C6556@earthlink.net> In <438D369E.D48C6556@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: >Tim Mullen wrote: >> >> I also collect antique fans, and there's a guy who used to >> have a shop in Miami called "The Blade & Cage". Bet he fielded >> a few odd calls. :) > Could be, but then we have no idea what went on in the back room, do >we? ;-) I would. :) :) Seriously, the guy's name is Monty Young, and this is a plug for him because he's one of the nicest, nicest, gentlemen you'd ever want to meet, and a restorer nonpareil. He moved to Arizona years ago, and I'm not sure if he's still doing fans or not. But if he is he's a great guy to deal with. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 326842 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tasp" Subject: Australian Radio Web Site Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 12:16:49 +1100 Message-ID: <438e4f02$1@news.eftel.com> Hi All! One of the commonest requests I receive through my Australian Radio web site is "How old is my valve Radio?" I am currently putting info into the pages that will link to PDF Files with Model Numbers and year of manufacture for each radio. If anyone has info on any of the more obscure brand radios, and they'd like to share it, then let me know and i'll put it on the site. For anyone who may be interested the website address is http://www.southcom.com.au/~pauledgr/ Yes, i know the design layout of the site is almost as antiquated as some of the radios, but i'm currently modernising the overall look of it with cleaner backgrounds, a different font, and images scanned or photographed with far more advanced equipment than they were originally done with. Also going through the links page and weeding out the dead links. If you have a vintage radio site that you would like on my links page, let me know and i'll put one in for you. Cheers Paul Article: 326843 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <13801-438E396D-51@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Way under rated .. ebay radio Message-ID: Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 01:23:20 GMT Mee too! Right out from under my nose! :-) Congrats to Radiobob. Keith "Lou deGonzague" wrote in message news:Bdrjf.46841$DL6.45474@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Shoot, wish I had seen that before since that's my hometown! > > Ken G. wrote: >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6581002323&indexURL=0 >> >> ``radiobob`` got a neet radio about free . These are not common . I have >> one in the ``to do`` pile Article: 326844 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: norml Subject: Re: Record changer for a Philco 116-122 Message-ID: <5ejso1ttad8v71ajsmk5bmkcrj88ibjsjb@4ax.com> References: <1133288057_42451@spool6-east.superfeed.net> <1133293755.110560.96930@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133363590.169651.103890@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1133379567.213318.182780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1133384386.240474.165670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 01:34:13 GMT Here is what I have heard about this: In the mid '20s Western Electric decided to devise a sound movie system using synchronized discs. They began by calling around to theaters in New York and determining that the films were being run at about 24 frames per second. (For various reasons projection speeds had been creeping up from the original practice of 15-16 fps.) They calculated that a 16" disc, cut with the then-standard 3 mil stylus and revolving at 35 rpm, would produce sound of adequate quality for the length of one reel of film. They rummaged around in the junk box for stock gears to couple the projector to the turntable and came upon a combination that produced 33 1/3 rpm at the 24 fps film speed. Close enough. It was a klunky system and W.E. soon abandoned it (as did everyone else) in favor of a sound-on-film system. In the meantime, radio was looking for a means of recording programs for later broadcast. The 16" discs filled the bill--sort of. They came to be called "transcriptions" (originally because there was a prejudice against recorded programs) and remained the medium of choice for syndicated and delayed network shows until the introduction of magnetic tape after WWII. RCA Victor did indeed introduce a system of 33 1/3 records in the early '30s. I believe this system incorporated a smaller groove (necessary for obtaining adequate high frequency response at the slower speed) but the necessary high fidelity, light weight playback equipment and quiter surface material necessary for satisfactory results had not been invented yet and the system was a failure. Peter Goldmark at Columbia resurrected the idea after the war and the system, with light weight, crystal cartridges and quiet vinyl surfaces took off immediately in 1948. Columbia had offered the patents to the entire recording industry but at RCA Sarnoff had a snit and caused his company to dust off the 45 rpm system, which had been sitting on a laboratory shelf since 1939, and charge into what came to be regarded as the "speed wars" of the '50s. The home disc cutters of the '30s and '40s incorporated the 33 1/3 rpm speed as a means of producing longer, uninterrupted recordings, but with their 3 mil grooves and the noisy, acetate surfaces, did not satisfy most music lovers. Norm Lehfeldt nospam4me@mytrashmail.com wrotf: >toxcrusadr wrote: >> None of which really explains why Philco would have put a 33 speed on a >> 1936 radio-phono. Even if movie soundtracks were on 12" discs then, >> who would be playing those at home anyway? Were they anticipating that >> the medium would take off and be used for general music reproduction? > >> Tox > >(RCA) Victor offered some 33 1/3 rpm records during the early and mid >1930s. From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Thu Dec 1 05:11:53 EST 2005 Article: 326845 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Antique standing hand crank phonograph kenwood References: <1133370318.731373.253280@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 12 Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 01:42:01 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1133401321 66.65.49.10 (Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:42:01 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:42:01 EST Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!news-feed-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:326845 In article <1133370318.731373.253280@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, marks@4insight.com wrote: > My family has an old standing handcrank phonograph and records- it can > vary the speed between 78 rpm and 33. Still works fine. Has the I'd like to see an up-close shot of that speed selector. First I've ever heard of such a machine. I thought all those things were designed around +/-78 RPM records -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Thu Dec 1 05:11:53 EST 2005 Article: 326846 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Record changer for a Philco 116-122 References: <1133288057_42451@spool6-east.superfeed.net> <1133293755.110560.96930@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133363590.169651.103890@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1133379567.213318.182780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1133384386.240474.165670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <5ejso1ttad8v71ajsmk5bmkcrj88ibjsjb@4ax.com> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 20 Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 01:50:53 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: twister.nyc.rr.com 1133401853 66.65.49.10 (Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:50:53 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:50:53 EST Organization: Road Runner - NYC Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!news-feed-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!twister.nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:326846 In article <5ejso1ttad8v71ajsmk5bmkcrj88ibjsjb@4ax.com>, norml wrote: > They rummaged around in the junk box for stock gears to couple the > projector to the turntable and came upon a combination that produced 33 1/3 > rpm at the 24 fps film speed. Close enough. Isn't this the Vitaphone system? I know the Loew's Jersey theatre in Jersey City has one such projector in its booth, you can see the turntable and the long pick-up arm on the rear side of the machine (side opposite the lens). First time I saw that thing, I thought the turntable was a platter for a holding a film reel. Go figure. :-P We also have a Vitaphone disk lying around in a drawer in the projection booth. It's a huge 16" plastic disk, recorded on one side. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 326847 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Record changer for a Philco 116-122 From: lherault@bu.edu References: <1133288057_42451@spool6-east.superfeed.net> <1133293755.110560.96930@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133363590.169651.103890@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1133379567.213318.182780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1133384386.240474.165670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <5ejso1ttad8v71ajsmk5bmkcrj88ibjsjb@4ax.com> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 02:28:55 GMT Message-ID: <438e5f2f_1@newsfeed.slurp.net> Have you heard of the Vitaphone project, a group reuniting films and long lost/separated sound tracks on these disks. Ron L Article: 326848 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Antique standing hand crank phonograph kenwood From: lherault@bu.edu References: <1133370318.731373.253280@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 02:44:24 GMT Message-ID: <438e62d0$1_1@newsfeed.slurp.net> You can slow a governor controlled 78 player to almost nothing but that does not mean that it was made to play anything at that speed or that there was something to play at that speed. Early disks varied in speed from a nominal 78 Victor) to 80 rpm (Columbia) but many disks actually were recorded at slower speeds that their stated play back speed. Ron L Article: 326849 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: rjbq Subject: Split Capacitor Case Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:00:05 -0800 Message-ID: <11osstda20hfcd8@corp.supernews.com> I posted a small photo on the alt.binaries site of a capacitor in a Westinghouse H-161 AM/FM chassis. The capacitor is about 1-inch square, 1/4-inch thick, and has a bakelite (I think) shell. This one and other similar ones in the chassis are 0.01mfd and 0.005mfd. All of them are cracked and starting to open. Has anybody seen this and/or have any idea why? I would guess it is caused by heat buildup. Richard Quam Article: 326850 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Way under rated .. ebay radio Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:51:30 -0700 Message-ID: <13799-438E7342-1113@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <1133403896.344055.307430@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> probably 45's in there too. Not sure ? Mine has been messed with alot over the years . The audio tube socket had been changed to something 7 pins ? and this power transformer dont look old enough but despite all this it works real good as-is ! This thing stands different because of odd little things . the chassis mount screws stick out of the chasis and require nuts on the bottom of the radio . The controls stick out both sides of the cabinet . There was a write up about this in ARC years ago by Wally Worth i think It took odd ball tubes or something . Its a 6 tube set . Mine has been refinished . The top is solid wood with no veneer . I always wondered if it had veneer .. the ebay picture is not clear over here . And gee wizz guys do i need to start posting these interesting sets here before they end ? :-) Article: 326851 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Very unusual Zenith console on ebay, not mine Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 21:14:41 -0700 Message-ID: <13800-438E78B1-277@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: Nope Bill just one box !!!! :-) actually he is only sending the dial face and chassis ... someone better check his front curb pretty soon ! Phil .. I agree UGLY i cant believe they stuck that dial on a console . The cabinet is actually nice looking . I dont know about rare ? seeing 2 in one week And about that little Philco car radio console i also have one in the `to do` pile . I have owned 2 and saw 2 more around here . They seem to sell well , small size i guess . They have a 6X9 electrodyn speaker in them . Missing in mine ! time for a 10 incher :-) Article: 326852 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Split Capacitor Case Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 21:29:05 -0700 Message-ID: <13800-438E7C11-280@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <11osstda20hfcd8@corp.supernews.com> Yes i have seen it and would say the splitting was caused by either or both shrinkage of the shell or expansion of the insides due to moisture Article: 326853 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gerald K4NHN" Subject: Horn base Message-ID: Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 04:58:06 GMT I'm in need of the base to a RCA UZ1325 horn. The one that I have was broken at the neck and someone glued it back together. The threads look to be in alignment, but it looks to be a little out of round. About 25 thousands I can screw it down about 2 turns and then it binds. I've thought about filing a flat side to see if that would let it screw on down. I've been working on it today and the threads look good but I still can't get the nut to screw on. It'll make about 1/2 turn and stop. I've tried to get the large nut off the horn but I've been unable to get the metal collar off the hard rubber neck of the horn to let the round tighten nut off. There are 4 indention that are used to hole it on and I've drilled them out, but the collar won't come off. Heat didn't work either. Does anyone have just the base. The driver is good. I think the chance of finding a die that large is out of the question.. It's 1 1/2" x 24 turns. Any suggestions? Gerald K4NHN Article: 326854 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 02:16:25 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Very unusual Zenith console on ebay, not mine References: <13800-438E78B1-277@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <14301$438e953d$4232bd28$28213@COQUI.NET> Ken G. wrote: > Nope Bill just one box !!!! :-) actually he is only sending the dial > face and chassis ... someone better check his front curb pretty soon ! > > Phil .. I agree UGLY i cant believe they stuck that dial on a console . > The cabinet is actually nice looking . I dont know about rare ? seeing 2 > in one week > And about that little Philco car radio console i also have one in the > `to do` pile . I have owned 2 and saw 2 more around here . They seem to > sell well , small size i guess . > They have a 6X9 electrodyn speaker in them . Missing in mine ! time for > a 10 incher :-) > Yeah, just a single case of box wine - hehe. Rare/valuable radios don't always make sense. Take that speckled POS that the guy on the Forum was crowing about as an example. Friggin ugly to most people but it has been a "collectible" to upper-shelf buyers since before I came on the scene. Kinda like having the ugliest Beanie-Baby in the collector world. I'm not sure why...seems like a runt of the litter of pups that somebody touted in some AWA Journal or something decades ago - not unlike the modern fascination with Walton radios. Whatever trips ones trigger. -Bill Article: 326855 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 02:18:00 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: The Rarest Atwater Kent Breadboard? References: <6NDff.128160$zb5.59534@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: <700f$438e959a$4232bd28$28213@COQUI.NET> Cmdr Buzz Corey wrote: > DumpsterDiver wrote: > >> > And some fool actually forked over $1500 for it. Can you not spot a shill? -Bill