Article: 327468 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: jakdedert <jakdedert@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: OT: 18-channel tube recording console?
References: <zsSdnQNqA43qcQDeRVn-gg@giganews.com>
Message-ID: <u1mnf.51855$i7.19232@bignews2.bellsouth.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:35:22 -0600

Phil Nelson wrote:
> I recently got a capacitor question from a guy in Hollywood who restores 
> audio equipment:
> 
> 
>>So now I have here for restoration the 18 channel
>>United Audio tube recording console from
>>Caesar's Palace Las Vegas <snip>
> 
> 
> Zowie. Makes you wonder what's inside that thing. And why 18, exactly . . . 
> ?
> 
> Phil Nelson
> Phil's Old Radios
> http://antiqueradio.org/index.html
> 
> 
One or two (at least) tubes per identical input channel (times however 
many channels), plus a few in the summing or output stage, monitor 
amp...power supply etc.

Doesn't sound excessive.

jak


Article: 327469 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Syl" <personne@perdu.com>
References: <Ztqdne8MQOCLIADeRVn-vQ@sigecom.net>
Subject: Re: OT...Doorbell Solenoid Problems
Message-ID: <%0mnf.15392$yw3.459047@weber.videotron.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:33:57 -0500

"Bruce Mercer" <maxbud12@XXXsigecom.net> wrote in message
news:Ztqdne8MQOCLIADeRVn-vQ@sigecom.net...
> It says not to lubricate them but they need something. I thought about
> powdered graphite....I also have some fine powdered teflon that is used in
> the piano industry for a dry lubricant where conventional oil based
> materials can't be used. Does anybody have any suggestions? Larry or
> anybody??BTW...the case is Catalin
> Thanks
> Bruce

You're supposed to polish the plungers, not lubricate them.

Now, if the sleeves are worn, you will have to retrofit a
teflon (best) insert. That is some work. But I would try
polishing "like a mirror" the plungers. Hand polishing isn't enough.

Good luck.

Syl 




Article: 327470 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Paul P" <p.pinyotREMOVE@REMOVEworldnet.attREMOVE.netREMOVE>
References: <Ztqdne8MQOCLIADeRVn-vQ@sigecom.net> <%0mnf.15392$yw3.459047@weber.videotron.net>
Subject: Re: OT...Doorbell Solenoid Problems
Message-ID: <10nnf.272790$zb5.139681@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:41:01 GMT

Don't use a wet lubricant.  These plungers must be dry or they attract and 
accumulate dust.  Clean completely with a non residue cleaner and perhaps 
use a little puff of graphite.  Graphite powder lubrication can be found at 
the hobby shop or local Cub scout store for the Pinewood Derby cars.

PP.


>
> You're supposed to polish the plungers, not lubricate them.
>
> Now, if the sleeves are worn, you will have to retrofit a
> teflon (best) insert. That is some work. But I would try
> polishing "like a mirror" the plungers. Hand polishing isn't enough.
>
> Good luck.
>
> Syl
> 




Article: 327471 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Paul P" <p.pinyotREMOVE@REMOVEworldnet.attREMOVE.netREMOVE>
References: <9829-439C66F8-219@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: GLASS DIAL COVERS
Message-ID: <O1nnf.272799$zb5.138439@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:42:54 GMT

Good to hear you back Bill.  I have sent a few people your way lately.  One 
for covers and one for tubes (solid state ballast and the 1l6 adaptors).

Paul


"Bill Turner" <dialcover@webtv.net> wrote in message 
news:9829-439C66F8-219@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net...
> SOMETIME AGO I DISCONTINUED HANDLING GLASS AND PLASTIC DIAL COVERS.  MY
> SON STARTED MAKING PLASTIC DIAL COVERS AND GLASS DIAL COVERS.  IN THAT
> HE HAS RUN INTO SOME DIFFICULTIES, I WILL BE TAKING BACK THE GLASS DIAL
> COVERS.  I HOPE HE WILL RESOLVE HIS PROBLEMS AND START UP MAKING THE
> PLASTIC DIAL COVERS SOON.  IN THE MEANTIME I WILL NOT BE ACCEPTING
> ORDERS FOR PLASTIC.
>
>
> CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com
> Bill Turner, excuse  caps, short answers, stroke.
> Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide.
>
>
>
> 




Article: 327472 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Portables using peanut tubes
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:26:26 +0900
Message-ID: <dnl0oi$dh1$1@news2.kornet.net>

Anyone have any brands or model numbers of any of these? I'm looking around 
for one (with no illusions about the cost thereof). 




Article: 327473 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: OT door opener fixed
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:31:27 -0700
Message-ID: <22867-439E084F-528@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net>
References: <dnj767$apsh$1@news3.infoave.net>

Ok its fixed i hope .. I pulled the handle and tried the door by hand ..
very light & easy . I hit the button and that worked too so i went up
and looked at that long track on the opener and noticed the freezing
cold had turned the grease to powder so i got the axle grease & a paint
brush and swabbed it good now the door goes up all the way .

Thanks everyone !  



Article: 327474 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM>
References: <zsSdnQNqA43qcQDeRVn-gg@giganews.com> <u1mnf.51855$i7.19232@bignews2.bellsouth.net> <Ia2dncucNPbrigPeRVn-jw@giganews.com>
Subject: Re: OT: 18-channel tube recording console?
Message-ID: <AMonf.17449$Mi5.8524@dukeread07>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:40:32 -0500


"Phil Nelson" <philnelson@nospam.xyz> wrote in message
news:Ia2dncucNPbrigPeRVn-jw@giganews.com...
> > One or two (at least) tubes per identical input channel (times however
> > many channels), plus a few in the summing or output stage, monitor
> > amp...power supply etc.
>
> When I first read his email, I thought "18 tubes," which doesn't sound
> unreasonable, but he said 18 channels. Just wondering if there could be
such
> a thing as an 18-channel recorder. Maybe it was just a typo. Eight tracks,
> who knows . . .
>
> Phil "not a recorder guy" Nelson
>
>

Phil

http://cgi.ebay.com/Magnasync-Moviola-Large-Scale-Editing-Machine_W0QQitemZ7
572238231QQcategoryZ21166

We used these to record phone lines and radio circuits back in the
early 80s.  It could have been part of a security system,  or maybe
they had the option to record  dealers at the tables as part of their
survelience system?

Pete




Article: 327475 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "KC0EH" <cvest@cox.net>
Subject: WTB: 222MHz. TRANSVERTER
Message-ID: <LXonf.1435$oz5.597@dukeread03>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:56:00 -0600

   I am interested in buying a 222 transverter to get on SSB/CW. Also 
interested in amplifier and antennas.
   Please state price and condition.
Thanks,

...Charlie...KC0EH... 




Article: 327476 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: FS? Dark Shadows series on VHS
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:01:13 +0900
Message-ID: <dnl6a7$fes$1@news2.kornet.net>

I don't generally post things FS on here, but thought I might offer these up 
here before doing anything else with them.

I have every tape released of the Dark Shadows television series, which I 
got from Andre Norton when she was in the process of moving. There are 200 
tapes, each with four episodes. Only two or three of these has ever been 
unwrapped from the plastic, and they have been stored carefully.

I've updated to DVD's, and want to find a good home for these tapes. I'm 
figuring they've got to be worth $2 a tape plus shipping, and I would really 
like to sell them all as a set. There are also a few tapes of specials and 
interviews and such that will go along with the series set.

Be advised that USPS Media mail shipping will likely be around $50-60. If 
you want faster shipping, the sky's the limit.

These might make an interesting program source for that old CTC-7 or even 
that old Hallicrafters 10" set. 




Article: 327477 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com>
References: <S5ydnfb_gPDSvQDenZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@comcast.com> <%mfnf.14368$yw3.383053@weber.videotron.net> <ir6dnbpdgK6zRQDenZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: another Capehart to get gutted???
Message-ID: <jmpnf.28803$XC4.22445@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 01:21:19 GMT


I have one of those big gold dial Silvertones thanks to Mark's postings!
Concerning the Capehart... that one is VERY similar to mine, I have a 21M2 
FM. I got it because it was nice and I did want ONE of the big honking 
modern blasters and it had such nice Pie Crust.  They are that rare?  and 
What ARE the rare speakers?  I need to poke my head in mine again but worry 
not.... I will NOT be robbing its speakers out no matter what they are!

Keith

>
> maybe you dont understand how rare some of the items I make comments about
> are because everything is  scarce in Canada.   But, the Capeharts are 
> quite
> rare, I know in 30 years of collecting I have seen maybe one or two and
> thats probably well over 100 swap meets!
>
> Not all readers to the newsgroup surf ebay every week, either.   I know
> there's been many times others call out FA's that I did not see, and I
> search eBay several times a week.
>
> Finally, sometimes I learn from others comments about the stuff I post.
> Byrns says this Capehart doesnt have the rare speakers... thats great 
> info,
> meaning it shouldnt sell to the speaker gutters...and , maybe someone here
> can get it for a reasonable price and save the beast!
>
> Mark Oppat
>
>
> "Syl" <personne@perdu.com> wrote in message
> news:%mfnf.14368$yw3.383053@weber.videotron.net...
>> "Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message
>> news:S5ydnfb_gPDSvQDenZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> > sad, but this beauty might suffer the "speaker snitchers"
>> >
>> >
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Capehart-Panamuse-Garrard-Jensen-Radio-Phono-Console_W0QQitemZ6588386742QQcategoryZ1442QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>> >
>> > Mark Oppat
>>
>> Mark,
>>
>> Don't you have anything better to discuss then endlessly post
>> not-yours-links to eBay ?
>>
>> I'm sure you can discuss about your last repair, share experience and
>> such things related to antique radios collection and repair/restoration,
>> hopefully without a commercial plug ?
>>
>> Or can you ?
>>
>> Syl
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 




Article: 327478 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: USMC Field Antenna Handbook
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <Xns9728DE6E44FC1noonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <wood-1212051148490001@jbw-mac.itd.nrl.navy.mil>
Message-ID: <Xns972ACFEF077FBnoonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:26:18 -0500

wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) wrote in
news:wood-1212051148490001@jbw-mac.itd.nrl.navy.mil: 

> Hello, and IIRC from my Army days there was/is also an Army manual for
> field-expedient antennas.  Don't recall the FM # though.  Sincerely,
> 
> John Wood (Code 5550)        e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil            
>         Naval Research Laboratory
> 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW
> Washington, DC 20375-5337
> 
> 

Hm...don't have that one, John.  I looked.  But, if you need the service 
and maintenance manual to the B-B-160 Railroad Locomotive out there in 
the weps yard, I gotcha covered....(c;

US Army - Maintenance Manual, Locomotive, Model B-B-160 and 160-4GE747-A1 
TM 55-2210-224-34.pdf

US Army - Lubrication Order, Locomotive, Model B-B-160 and 160-4GE747-A1 
LO 55-2210-224-12.pdf

US Army - Operator and Unit Maintenance Manual, Locomotive, Model B-B-160 
and 160-4GE747-A1 TM 55-2210-224-12.pdf

You never know....You might be stuck in traffic waiting for these guys to 
get the hell out of your way....WE can help...(c;

Larry (Code 132.118)
Charleston Naval Shipyard
Metrology Engineering Center
Quality Assurance Office
May she rest in peace....

How stupid.  Now they have to take their boats to NORFOLK!....(shaking 
head)



Article: 327479 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: OT...Doorbell Solenoid Problems
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <Ztqdne8MQOCLIADeRVn-vQ@sigecom.net>
Message-ID: <Xns972AD2327E334noonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:39:40 -0500

"Bruce Mercer" <maxbud12@XXXsigecom.net> wrote in
news:Ztqdne8MQOCLIADeRVn-vQ@sigecom.net: 

> I know this isn't radio related but feel that somebody here may know
> the answer to my problem.  I have one of those old motorized doorbell
> chimes from the early thirties. It has four very long brass tubular
> chimes. The problem is that the solenoid plungers seem to get sticky,
> dirty or whatever. I've cleaned them with contact cleaner, plain and
> Pro-Gold and it works ok for awhile and then they start to do the same
> thing again. Even if I increase the power at the resistor that
> increases the overall volume of the chimes the sticky or dragging
> solenoids are still evident. It says not to lubricate them but they
> need something. I thought about powdered graphite....I also have some
> fine powdered teflon that is used in the piano industry for a dry
> lubricant where conventional oil based materials can't be used. Does
> anybody have any suggestions? Larry or anybody??BTW...the case is 
> Catalin Thanks
> Bruce 
> 
> 
> 

I have many old church chime systems from the same era.  Some of them have 
solenoids with rubber-tipped hammers similar to your door chimes, just more 
of them, 2 or 3 octaves from a keyboard on the side of the organ.

Try taking the chime off them.  Mine are suspended with leather thongs 
which all need replacing with fishing line, here.  Then, look for a tiny 
return spring that pulls the hammer back away from the chime after it's 
struck.  On the old Deacon chimes, this spring holds itself to the solenoid 
armature by fitting into a little groove cut in the armature slug.  
Carefully pry it out to release it so you can pull the solenoid armature 
slug out where the chime tube was blocking it.  POLISH it up with a very 
fine emory cloth to get rid of all that corrosion dragging on it in the 
coil form.  I suppose you're going to have to clean out all the lube crap 
poured into it.  The place it fits must be very DRY and CLEAN so it will 
slide free without dragging so it will strike quickly from inertia when the 
coil gets current and quickly bounce off the chime tube back with the help 
of the spring so it doesn't dampen the chime's oscillation.  If there's any 
grease or anything that will stop it from moving very quickly, it won't 
chime properly.

On Deacon chimes, there is also a damper solenoid on the end of the chime 
tube that stops it from vibrating when the player releases the key.  Yours 
probably doesn't have that.  This solenoid just drops a felt disk onto the 
end of the chime to dampen the tone when the note isn't pressed down on the 
keyboard, sorta like the string dampers in a piano.  IF these dampers 
stick, they stick down and don't lift off the chime to play it.  All you 
hear is a dull thump with little note if this happens...(c;

Other chimes I work on have chime bars like a grandfather clock.  But, 
instead of the little chime hard bars vibrating a sound board in the 
mechanical clock, each one of them has a pickup coil wrapped around a small 
magnet.  The vibrating bar disturbs the magnet's field like the tone wheels 
in a Hammond organ generator and the coil's output pulses are fed to a 
parallel tuned circuit that turns the note into a sinewave then passes all 
the tones to a tube amp...either with old metal octals or 12AX7/12AT7 
preamps and some octal power tubes to the LONG metal re-entrant horn 
monsters up in the tower, always right under the HUGE wasp nest!

Hope this helps you....


Article: 327480 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: OT...Doorbell Solenoid Problems
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <Ztqdne8MQOCLIADeRVn-vQ@sigecom.net> <%0mnf.15392$yw3.459047@weber.videotron.net> <10nnf.272790$zb5.139681@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
Message-ID: <Xns972AD27C11EFAnoonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:41:21 -0500

"Paul P" <p.pinyotREMOVE@REMOVEworldnet.attREMOVE.netREMOVE> wrote in 
news:10nnf.272790$zb5.139681@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net:

> Graphite powder lubrication can be found at 
> the hobby shop or local Cub scout store for the Pinewood Derby cars.
> 

Graphite makes too much drag and reduces hammer speed, lowering the chime 
volume.  If they are very polished and even running in a worn paper tube in 
the coil, they'll be lightning fast and make a LOUD note....(c;



Article: 327481 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: Portables using peanut tubes
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:43:51 +0900
Message-ID: <dnl8q5$ghc$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <dnl0oi$dh1$1@news2.kornet.net> <1134437520.301607.278450@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>


"nesesu" <neil_sutcliffe@telus.net> wrote in message 
news:1134437520.301607.278450@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Do you really mean 'peanut tubes' as in WE R215A, or do you mean
> sub-miniature tubes??
> Most of the really early sets were 'portable' in that they were battery
> operated and thus free to be moved about.


The ones I've always heard called 'peanut tubes' are the ones with the wires 
coming out of the base in-line. I see they're called subminiatures on ebay.. 
like this one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/1AD4-Submini-Tube-NOS-10-pcs-RF-Pentode_W0QQitemZ5841252092QQcategoryZ1502QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem 




Article: 327482 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: OT: 18-channel tube recording console?
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <zsSdnQNqA43qcQDeRVn-gg@giganews.com> <u1mnf.51855$i7.19232@bignews2.bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <Xns972AD30943A26noonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:44:36 -0500

jakdedert <jakdedert@bellsouth.net> wrote in news:u1mnf.51855$i7.19232
@bignews2.bellsouth.net:

>>>Caesar's Palace Las Vegas <snip>
> 

Everybody on the group, even those replying about electronics, is thinking:

S-H-O-W  G-I-R-L-S!!

I did....(c;

THANKS!



Article: 327483 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: OT door opener fixed
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <dnj767$apsh$1@news3.infoave.net> <22867-439E084F-528@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net>
Message-ID: <Xns972AD4B38B02Dnoonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:54:26 -0500

goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) wrote in news:22867-439E084F-528@storefull-
3238.bay.webtv.net:

> Thanks everyone !  
> 
> 

Hey, a nice English ale like Boddington's is fine with me...(c;



Article: 327484 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Frank K." <fkarner@cox.net>
Subject: WTB:  Hickok cardomatic cards
Message-ID: <2Spnf.17450$Mi5.5272@dukeread07>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:54:46 -0600

I'm looking for some blank cards for a HICKOK CARDOMATIC tube tester.  Also
the 7 or so cards used for calibration and troubleshooting.  thanks, frank
in OKC




Article: 327485 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Portables using peanut tubes
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:00:43 -0600
Message-ID: <10742-439E2B4B-388@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net>
References: <dnl0oi$dh1$1@news2.kornet.net>

I own at least two radios like that I bought at a Salvation Army thrift
store years ago.They open like a book.I think they were made in the
1940's.I dont remember the brand names of them,but they were made in
U.S.A.I have them stored in one of my several footlockers where I keep a
lot of my old small radios.I would have to shift a heck of a lot of old
junk off and away from those footlockers to even get to those radios in
there.
cuhulin



Article: 327486 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Phil Witt <w4imm@charter.net>
Subject: Eric tube amplifier question
Message-ID: <tpbsp1909n126p1t8hdpuklji2jpq2e9if@4ax.com>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:18:07 -0600

I just picked up an integrated tube amplifier at an estate sale. It
has a logo, ERIC, on the front, and ERIC ELECTRONICS, Santa Monica
Model 460 stamped on the chassis. Has anybody ever heard of this name
or company?

Without opening it up and actually looking,  it appears to be a stereo
amp with a single 6BQ5 output tube in each channel. It looks a bit
EICOish.

Thanks for any info.

Phil




Article: 327487 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <439E3CC1.E066B279@sympatico.ca>
From: John Stewart <jh.stewart@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Portables using peanut tubes
References: <dnl0oi$dh1$1@news2.kornet.net> <1134437520.301607.278450@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <dnl8q5$ghc$1@news2.kornet.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:15:13 -0500



Brenda Ann wrote:

> "nesesu" <neil_sutcliffe@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:1134437520.301607.278450@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Do you really mean 'peanut tubes' as in WE R215A, or do you mean
> > sub-miniature tubes??
> > Most of the really early sets were 'portable' in that they were battery
> > operated and thus free to be moved about.
>
> The ones I've always heard called 'peanut tubes' are the ones with the wires
> coming out of the base in-line. I see they're called subminiatures on ebay..
> like this one:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/1AD4-Submini-Tube-NOS-10-pcs-RF-Pentode_W0QQitemZ5841252092QQcategoryZ1502QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Many of that format were made by Raytheon. Those would have a 'CK' prefix.

Many others such as the 1AD4 are listed in the GE Essential Characteristics Manual.

Some were used in Proximity Fuses to detonate explosives near aircraft as they flew overhead during WW2. They were for a while part of
a secret weapon for the Allied side.

Peanut tubes were something else, developed in the 30's.

Cheers, John Stewart



Article: 327488 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: tbavis@_remove_this_rochester.rr.com (Tom Bavis)
Subject: Re: Eric tube amplifier question
Message-ID: <439e4552.16276859@news-server>
References: <tpbsp1909n126p1t8hdpuklji2jpq2e9if@4ax.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 03:54:59 GMT

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:18:07 -0600, Phil Witt <w4imm@charter.net>
wrote:

>I just picked up an integrated tube amplifier at an estate sale. It
>has a logo, ERIC, on the front, and ERIC ELECTRONICS, Santa Monica
>Model 460 stamped on the chassis. Has anybody ever heard of this name
>or company?
>
>Without opening it up and actually looking,  it appears to be a stereo
>amp with a single 6BQ5 output tube in each channel. It looks a bit
>EICOish.
>
>Thanks for any info.
>
>Phil
>
 
There are a few Eric models listed in the Sams index, but not the 460.


Article: 327489 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: Portables using peanut tubes
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:56:43 +0900
Message-ID: <dnlgj9$kn1$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <dnl0oi$dh1$1@news2.kornet.net> <1134437520.301607.278450@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <dnl8q5$ghc$1@news2.kornet.net> <439E3CC1.E066B279@sympatico.ca>


"John Stewart" <jh.stewart@sympatico.ca> wrote in message 
news:439E3CC1.E066B279@sympatico.ca...
>
>
> Brenda Ann wrote:
>
>> "nesesu" <neil_sutcliffe@telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:1134437520.301607.278450@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> > Do you really mean 'peanut tubes' as in WE R215A, or do you mean
>> > sub-miniature tubes??
>> > Most of the really early sets were 'portable' in that they were battery
>> > operated and thus free to be moved about.
>>
>> The ones I've always heard called 'peanut tubes' are the ones with the 
>> wires
>> coming out of the base in-line. I see they're called subminiatures on 
>> ebay..
>> like this one:
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/1AD4-Submini-Tube-NOS-10-pcs-RF-Pentode_W0QQitemZ5841252092QQcategoryZ1502QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> Many of that format were made by Raytheon. Those would have a 'CK' prefix.
>
> Many others such as the 1AD4 are listed in the GE Essential 
> Characteristics Manual.
>
> Some were used in Proximity Fuses to detonate explosives near aircraft as 
> they flew overhead during WW2. They were for a while part of
> a secret weapon for the Allied side.
>
> Peanut tubes were something else, developed in the 30's.
>
> Cheers, John Stewart


I stand (or sit) corrected.


> 




Article: 327490 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: jakdedert <jakdedert@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: OT: 18-channel tube recording console?
References: <zsSdnQNqA43qcQDeRVn-gg@giganews.com> <u1mnf.51855$i7.19232@bignews2.bellsouth.net> <Ia2dncucNPbrigPeRVn-jw@giganews.com>
Message-ID: <qGrnf.10154$MA2.1283@bignews6.bellsouth.net>
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:00:25 -0600

Phil Nelson wrote:
>>One or two (at least) tubes per identical input channel (times however 
>>many channels), plus a few in the summing or output stage, monitor 
>>amp...power supply etc.
> 
> 
> When I first read his email, I thought "18 tubes," which doesn't sound 
> unreasonable, but he said 18 channels. Just wondering if there could be such 
> a thing as an 18-channel recorder. Maybe it was just a typo. Eight tracks, 
> who knows . . .
> 
> Phil "not a recorder guy" Nelson
> 
> 
I thought the same thing, even though I knew '18 channels' was the key. 
  As another poster noted, 18 channels (inputs) is not unreasonable 
either.  The idea is to mix them down to one or more outputs....

Otherwise, what I said applies.


Article: 327491 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Gordon Richmond <richmond@telusplanet.net>
Subject: Re: New idea for transmitter
Message-ID: <ephsp1tp5am1ngld035j2uh87b0ih9u3ie@4ax.com>
References: <m2Xmf.2214$QQ1.1521@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <22867-439C4CAB-286@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> <6qudnenWpbEQNAHenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@rogers.com> <jbyrns-1112051845280001@216-80-74-228.d.enteract.com> <K14nf.1690$w7.588@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <fw6nf.2385$QQ1.594@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 04:09:37 GMT

Gary,

I have no experience with a store-bought low-power transmitter like
the AMT-3000, but I have built "phono oscillators" in my youth.

I doubt a loop antenna lying flat in a shallow drawer would couple
very to the loop antenna upright on the back of the radio on the table
top...you've got coils at 90 degrees to one another.

If I were trying to achieve the same goal; i.e. radiating an OTR
signal from a table drawer to a radio placed atop the table, I'd go
with a phono oscillator using a ferrite loopstick antenna, and orient
the loopstick so its axis is parallel to the axis of the loop antenna
on the back of the radio. If the radio were a model without a loop
antenna, I'd simply attach a short length of wire the radio's antenna
terminal, and lay it out on the table behind the radio, and attach a
short length of wire to antenna terminal of the transmitter and lay it
out in the drawer beneath.

I'd use either a portable CD player or digital media device as a
program source, and run both it and the transmitter off alkaline D
cells. Should run for days on a set of them.

Gordon Richmond


Article: 327492 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <439E5F76.80E5A30F@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: OT (Very): AR Receiver Question
References: <1134392263.634700.275690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:43:30 GMT

AuroraOldRadios wrote:
> 
> If you have to resort to changing an IC, you might consider using a
> socket. Some folks don't like the possibility of the connections
> getting corroded, but the socket will let you trouble shoot the IC.


   Be aware that the socket adds inductance to all of the IC's leads,
and additional capacitance between adjacent pins. I have seen a lot of
analog designs where a socket detunes the circuit enough that it won't
work.  A couple vendors used to sell special IC socket wells that pushed
through the board so the height didn't change, but it still affected the
inter-pin capacitance. 

-- 
?

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 327493 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jeffrey D Angus <jangus@socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Best Christmas Gift?
References: <o_-dncyRz8VHiQPenZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com>
Message-ID: <2ktnf.6176$hI1.6084@tornado.socal.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:51:58 GMT

Bob wrote:
> In reference to radios, what was your "best" Chirstmas gift?   Anyone 
> receive anything in Christmas's past that is worth mentioning?

Some time back in the mid 60s I received a two tube AM radio kit.
Direct AC line operated. I used to play "spy" and sit in the closet
with it listening to Bob Crane on KNX with it. I also remember
getting zapped finding out about AC line voltage and grounds.

Recently? I bought the German Morale receiver listed here by
Joel Reed for myself.

Jeff


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Article: 327494 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <439E61AC.3D8D9D54@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Portables using peanut tubes
References: <dnl0oi$dh1$1@news2.kornet.net> <1134437520.301607.278450@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <dnl8q5$ghc$1@news2.kornet.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 05:52:55 GMT

Brenda Ann wrote:
> 
> "nesesu" <neil_sutcliffe@telus.net> wrote in message
> news:1134437520.301607.278450@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> > Do you really mean 'peanut tubes' as in WE R215A, or do you mean
> > sub-miniature tubes??
> > Most of the really early sets were 'portable' in that they were battery
> > operated and thus free to be moved about.
> 
> The ones I've always heard called 'peanut tubes' are the ones with the wires
> coming out of the base in-line. I see they're called subminiatures on ebay..
> like this one:
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/1AD4-Submini-Tube-NOS-10-pcs-RF-Pentode_W0QQitemZ5841252092QQcategoryZ1502QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


I've got a couple 1AD4 tubes, but the leads were trimmed to fit the
inline tube socket Motorola used in their early portable two way radios.

-- 
?

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 327495 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: Portables using peanut tubes
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:02:03 +0900
Message-ID: <dnlnua$o2a$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <dnl0oi$dh1$1@news2.kornet.net> <ErKdnQyarY7Y0gPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com>


"Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message 
news:ErKdnQyarY7Y0gPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> peanut tubes are from the early 1920's.  Subminitures are from the
> 40's-50's.  I think you mean submini's.  They had leads coming right out,
> and were used in portables like the Crosley "book" radios.
>
> Mark Oppat

Thanks Mark.. that gives me a starting point. That sort of radio is what I'm 
looking for (not the tubes, at least not yet). Any particular makes/models I 
can look for?





Article: 327496 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Duplicate Zenith COS available
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:50:40 -0600
Message-ID: <10742-439E6130-425@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1134400543.826673.29370@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

I own a Zenith Circle of Sound radio similar to that.The speaker is
mounted on the bottom,inside of the cabinet and there is a pedestal that
keeps the actual bottom of the radio cabinet from sitting too close on a
table or desk or shelf or whatever.The radio does work,it plugs into a
wall outlet,it does not operate on batteries.I bought the radio for two
dollars at a Goodwill thrift store about ten years ago.
cuhulin 



Article: 327497 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Omer  Suleimanagich" <oabukovac@earthlink.net>
References: <Xns9728DE6E44FC1noonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Subject: Re: USMC Field Antenna Handbook
Message-ID: <KEtnf.3309$3Z.1689@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:14:02 GMT

Am I missing something?!

How do I download this garbage so that I can read it!?

I'm getting just random numbers and letters on each message.

Omer

"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message 
news:Xns9728DE6E44FC1noonehomecom@63.223.7.253...
> Over on alt.binaries.e-book.technical someone has posted:
> USMC-Antenna Reference Publication -MCRP 6-22D.pdf
> which is a great little radio propagation training manual and simple
> antenna handbook.
>
> Thought you guys up in the attic stapling wire grids to the rafters might
> like to take a look.....
> 




Article: 327498 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Telefunken Radio electric cord I need to buy
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:06:32 -0600
Message-ID: <10742-439E64E8-426@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net>

About seven years ago,I bought a Telefunken Opus 7 AM/FM/Shortwave
wooden cabinet table model radio,it is a big heavy radio too.I paid four
dollars for the radio at a Goodwill store.I need to buy an electric cord
that plugs into the back of the radio so I can try it out and see if it
works ok.Does anybody know where I can buy an electric cord for the
radio?
cuhulin



Article: 327499 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Portables using peanut tubes
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:13:22 -0600
Message-ID: <10742-439E6682-427@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net>
References: <dnlnua$o2a$1@news2.kornet.net>

Do some searches on the internet for those kinds of radios.You might
find some for sale and also,     www.devilfinder.com  Antique Radio
Classified
cuhulin



Article: 327500 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Omer  Suleimanagich" <oabukovac@earthlink.net>
References: <10742-439E64E8-426@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: Telefunken Radio electric cord I need to buy
Message-ID: <3sunf.3408$nm.2671@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 07:08:47 GMT

I don't know where you live, but do your self a favor.  Have a service 
technician use a variac to slowly give the radio voltage  while turning it 
on!

Chances are, that the smoothing capacitor is shot, meaning that you cause 
damage to that radio if you give it full voltage.

If your close to Detroit, you have Mark Oppat to look at it with you,  if 
your located someplace else, let the newsgroup know and someone here can 
offer you assistance.

Omer


<cuhulin@webtv.net> wrote in message 
news:10742-439E64E8-426@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net...
> About seven years ago,I bought a Telefunken Opus 7 AM/FM/Shortwave
> wooden cabinet table model radio,it is a big heavy radio too.I paid four
> dollars for the radio at a Goodwill store.I need to buy an electric cord
> that plugs into the back of the radio so I can try it out and see if it
> works ok.Does anybody know where I can buy an electric cord for the
> radio?
> cuhulin
> 




Article: 327501 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Scott W. Harvey" <NOT_MY_REAL@email.com>
Subject: Re: another Capehart to get gutted???
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:08:30 -0800
Message-ID: <dnlvht022pb@news2.newsguy.com>
References: <S5ydnfb_gPDSvQDenZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@comcast.com> <%mfnf.14368$yw3.383053@weber.videotron.net> <ir6dnbpdgK6zRQDenZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <jmpnf.28803$XC4.22445@twister.nyroc.rr.com>

Keith Park wrote:
> I have one of those big gold dial Silvertones thanks to Mark's postings!
> Concerning the Capehart... that one is VERY similar to mine, I have a 21M2 
> FM. I got it because it was nice and I did want ONE of the big honking 
> modern blasters and it had such nice Pie Crust.  They are that rare?  and 
> What ARE the rare speakers?  I need to poke my head in mine again but worry 
> not.... I will NOT be robbing its speakers out no matter what they are!
> 
The truly "rare" speakers used in some of these Capeharts are made by 
Western Electric. Audiophools, particularly those in Japan, will pay 
absurdly high prices for these speakers. They ARE great speakers, but 
not $1000+ great.

-Scott


Article: 327502 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "George Conklin" <georgeconklin1@earthlink.net>
References: <uxenf.2188$n1.1604@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <14181-439D7DB4-320@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: victrola motor spring
Message-ID: <jLvnf.3595$Tg2.1511@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:37:35 GMT


"Ken G." <goodguyy@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:14181-439D7DB4-320@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net...
> You dont need to heat those up anymore . They make drill type bits that
> go right through the tempered spring metal
>

  The tight bends needed at the center of the spring do require some
detempering, right?  Now, on one clock I simply used a pop rivet to attach
to ends of the old spring, and have had no trouble with that patch at all.




Article: 327503 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <439E8967.4FC39B22@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: USMC Field Antenna Handbook
References: <Xns9728DE6E44FC1noonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <KEtnf.3309$3Z.1689@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:42:31 GMT

Omer Suleimanagich wrote:
> 
> Am I missing something?!
> 
> How do I download this garbage so that I can read it!?
> 
> I'm getting just random numbers and letters on each message.
> 
> Omer
> 
> "Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message
> news:Xns9728DE6E44FC1noonehomecom@63.223.7.253...
> > Over on alt.binaries.e-book.technical someone has posted:
> > USMC-Antenna Reference Publication -MCRP 6-22D.pdf
> > which is a great little radio propagation training manual and simple
> > antenna handbook.
> >
> > Thought you guys up in the attic stapling wire grids to the rafters might
> > like to take a look.....
> >

You have to select all parts of the file, then right click and select
"Combine and decode" then save the file.
-- 
?

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 327504 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Is Zenith 5S127 Strippable?
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <1134359042.309617.163980@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1134436291.593063.313910@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <e3ynf.23148$8d.16689@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:15:22 GMT

In article <1134436291.593063.313910@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, 
n9vu@yahoo.com says...
>
>
>Hey John,
>
>Good to hear from you in this string.  Hope your trip's going well for
>you.  This is the radio I bought from Tombstone Tommy.  I find it hard
>to believe it has any life, all things considered and what's best is
>through all that trouble I went through to get a speaker for this
>thing, the one I bought works fine plug and play.  Seems the wiring is
>the same for this particular model as well.
>
>Looks like that 229 is a POS as you said.  Just too common so it seems.
> This particular set seems to go for more bucks anyway when done right.
>
>
>GB.
. 
Hi Gary.... so far trip is good... much better than being back home
in Indiana... by buddies tell me they have 8 inches of that nasty
white stuff.. So far only bought one radio here and that was from
another collector locally in FL. I am happy with it. Zenith chairside
model 8s451 came with an original zenith shipping carton.. box not
perfect but then considering its a chunk of 65 year old cardboard
not bad either... radio needs some serious work.

I still need a 5 inch Z Speaker.. I keep watching the bay stuff
and other places. And YES no question about the cabinet on the 5s127
being a real design and very nice looking when its done. One of
these days I will get the one I have at home finished.

John k9uwa /w4



Article: 327505 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Mike Schultz" <mls2004@SPAMSPAMSPAMverizon.net>
References: <dnl0oi$dh1$1@news2.kornet.net>
Subject: Re: Portables using peanut tubes
Message-ID: <ruznf.16231$hB6.15637@trnddc05>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:52:39 GMT

Here's a site with a number of subminiature tube radios:

http://www.radiolaguy.com/Showcase/subminiature.htm

This doesn't really count, but I recently found a Hallicrafters HT-21 
"Littlefone", a portable FM transceiver with 22 subminiature tubes.

There was also an FM-only set with 2 subminiature tubes.  Forget the name, 
though, but one was on eBay a while back with a $1500 (?) opening bid, but 
it didn't sell.

-- 
Mike Schultz


"Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com> wrote in message 
news:dnl0oi$dh1$1@news2.kornet.net...
> Anyone have any brands or model numbers of any of these? I'm looking 
> around for one (with no illusions about the cost thereof).
> 




Article: 327506 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: USMC Field Antenna Handbook
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <Xns9728DE6E44FC1noonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <KEtnf.3309$3Z.1689@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <Xns972B575297312noonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:34:53 -0500

"Omer  Suleimanagich" <oabukovac@earthlink.net> wrote in news:KEtnf.3309
$3Z.1689@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net:

> How do I download this garbage so that I can read it!?
> 

You need a better news client.  Here's a much better one for free:

http://xnews.newsguy.com/

Download and install it.  It will ask you for your news server address.  
Xnews will get the whole newsgroup list from the server then display it 
for you.  Any one you like, like this one, simply press the = key and it 
will subscribe to it, putting it at the top of the list for easy access.  
Do that to all your newsgroups you like.

When you open a newsgroup, Xnews will get the whole message list, thread 
them all.  Go into the options and tell it NOT to expand the threads.  
Collapsed threads of binary files all show up as one single line with a 
light blue Rubix cube icon at the left end of the line.  Dark blue, 
partial Rubix cubes means there are message missing from the whole 
binary.  There's so many you just skip those.

Just to the right of the Subject field in the list is a field marked Q.  
Click on the Q field and a number will appear on that line.  Click as 
many as you like, or just click and drag down a list of a bunch of them 
that Xnews has conveniently put in line.  Once you've clicked a few 
hundred, along the bottom of the list window you'll see a blue Rubix 
button.  Click it and a popup will ask you where you want to put all 
these binary files.  Pick which directory, I hope you use a separate, 
you'd like to put the files into.  When you click OK, Xnews will start 
downloading the messages, in order, in sequence, decoding the usenet 
compression method no matter what it is, compiling all the pieces into a 
file and storing it where you told it to.  On Ebooks, that's about all 
you do.  Most are .pdf or Windows Help files and are directly readable 
>from your download directory.  Those that are .rar files or a series of 
.rar files require WinRAR from http://www.rarlabs.com/ which is a 
proprietary compression program.  Download and install WinRAR to decode 
and uncompress these into readable formats.  Instructions are on the 
rarlab website.  All the movies in alt.binaries.movies.xxxxx are split 
with Winrar and posted as lots of smaller parts.

You'll also see .par files for larger posts.  This par file group is used 
by many par file checking programs to reconstruct any missing or 
scrambled data in a stack of rar or other compression formatted data 
posted.  I use Quickpar from http://www.quickpar.org.uk/ another free 
program to error check a stack of rar or numbered part files.  To use 
Winrar or Quickpar for their purposes, simply doubleclick on the first 
rar or par file and the programs will boot and take care of the rest.  
Winrar, like Xnews did to decode the usenet messages, will ask you where 
you want to put the output file it will compile.  It will create a new 
directory if you just type in what name you want to call it.

These programs and methods also work for the MP3 newsgroups like 
alt.binaries.radio.oldtime or alt.binaries.multimedia.vintagetv or 
alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.xxxxxxx which has many genres of music where the 
xxxxxxx is in my typing.  There are millions of songs and hundreds of 
movies and old TV/Radio shows posted daily.

Once you learn how to download and decode this stuff, you'll wonder why 
lesser lifeforms use Napster....(c;  I have 21 million songs, now.



Article: 327507 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: USMC Field Antenna Handbook
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <Xns9728DE6E44FC1noonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <KEtnf.3309$3Z.1689@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> <439E8967.4FC39B22@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <Xns972B5773149A4noonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:35:38 -0500

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in 
news:439E8967.4FC39B22@earthlink.net:

> You have to select all parts of the file, then right click and select
> "Combine and decode" then save the file.
> -- 
> ?
> 
> Michael A. Terrell
> Central Florida
> 
> 

God Outlook sucks.....How awful...



Article: 327508 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: OT: 18-channel tube recording console?
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <zsSdnQNqA43qcQDeRVn-gg@giganews.com> <u1mnf.51855$i7.19232@bignews2.bellsouth.net> <Xns972AD30943A26noonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <1134444516.928700.309530@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <Xns972B57964819Dnoonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:36:27 -0500

"michaeljpro" <michaeljack@sympatico.ca> wrote in 
news:1134444516.928700.309530@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com:

> Now,
> SHOW GIRLS come in many formats, shapes and sizes.
> 

Hmm....I never saw any that looked "deformed"....(c;



Article: 327509 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: WTB:  Hickok cardomatic cards
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <2Spnf.17450$Mi5.5272@dukeread07>
Message-ID: <Xns972B57DAB9922noonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 08:38:01 -0500

"Frank K." <fkarner@cox.net> wrote in
news:2Spnf.17450$Mi5.5272@dukeread07: 

> I'm looking for some blank cards for a HICKOK CARDOMATIC tube tester. 
> Also the 7 or so cards used for calibration and troubleshooting. 
> thanks, frank in OKC
> 
> 

And to think I used to throw out cases of them when new card stacks came in 
for the AN/USM-118 Cardomatic tube testers in the Navy cal labs I worked 
in.....Sorry, Frank.....



Article: 327510 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Is Zenith 5S127 Strippable?
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <1134359042.309617.163980@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1134473784.625811.269360@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <wbBnf.30268$6e.3737@tornado.tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:49:00 GMT

In article <1134473784.625811.269360@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, 
n9vu@yahoo.com says...
>
>
>Thanks all, and thanks John for the advice and help on this set.  One
>thing this set will need is a replacement on off/vol switch.   Someone
>had replaced the one in there years ago and clown rigged a poor on off
>switch outboarded.   Anyone know the specs of this off hand and if I
>can replace with something other than one from a junker set?   Maybe I
>should bring the schematic to Radio Shack and ask them.  OK, THAT WAS
>JUST A JOKE, LOL.  GB.
>

Schematic says 400K pot... go to RadioDaze.com

http://radiodaze.com/

click up Components... then Pots... ya want the R-SPA-500K thats
a 500 K audio taper pot thats close enough for your volume control..
they get $1.69 for the control ... add $0.79 for a S-POT1
switch and a couple of bucks for postage.... shaft is 2 inches
on their pots... so you might have to cut it... and for sure its
round you have to file to fit your knob to correct flatness... 

John k9uwa



Article: 327511 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "MIT" <we300b@electrojunk.com>
References: <2Spnf.17450$Mi5.5272@dukeread07>
Subject: Re: Hickok cardomatic cards
Message-ID: <vwBnf.37926$Zv5.3612@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:11:23 GMT

frank
go for the clear plastic blanks as the older white types are too brittle and crack when you try to punch them
mit


"Frank K." <fkarner@cox.net> wrote in message news:2Spnf.17450$Mi5.5272@dukeread07...
| I'm looking for some blank cards for a HICKOK CARDOMATIC tube tester.  Also
| the 7 or so cards used for calibration and troubleshooting.  thanks, frank
| in OKC
|
| 




Article: 327512 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <439EE931.CBABBB14@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: OT (Very): AR Receiver Question
References: <1134392263.634700.275690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:31:28 GMT

Peter Wieck wrote:
> 
> >  Be aware that the socket adds inductance to all of the IC's leads,
> >and additional capacitance between adjacent pins. <snip>
> 
> Mike:
> 
> Are you suggesting that this is a potential problem in this case with
> this chip in this unit, or is it a caution in general?
> 
> The point of my attempting to diagnose the actual problem is to see if
> I can get to the original cause so it does not repeat. With an
> under-20-year old unit, I do not want to get into shotgunning parts.
> 
> Peter Wieck
> Wyncote, PA


   It is a general precaution. Some PC boards are laid out in a way that
the circuit is at its limits on stray inductance and capacitance.  If
you do use a socket I recommend a low profile machined pine socket. they
cost more than the cheap formed lead types, but they cause less
problems. Another question. Is the board double sided, and does it have
traces run to the IC leads on the top side of the board?  If it does, I
would just solder the new chip into the board. Use a little extra liquid
rosin flux to minimize heat damage to the PC board and be careful of
static charges.  A lot of ESD shows up weeks or months later.  See if
you can find a datasheet on the IC in question. They can tell you a lot
about how the part works.  Another thing I have seen in the stereo
decoder circuit is the clear polystyrene capacitors with hairline cracks
that allowed moisture into the capacitor which causes leakage.  I don't
have a PDF datasheet for either IC in my collection


http://www.datasheetarchive.com/datasheet/pdf/11022.html is the
datasheet for the LA3410, even though it is described as a Seven-Segment
Numeric LED Display

I didn't find a datasheet for the TC9157, but it looks like it was made
by Toshiba.

-- 
?

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 327513 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Pete_O" <stateasylum@private>
Subject: Re: hot chassis
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:12:10 +0100
Message-ID: <ce0edf381f62d97aa852517cfefe8eb6@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>
References: <1134486783.419976.229260@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1134487202.978153.91840@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

***There's probably some leakage through a power line capacitor or
something.  How about adding a grounded power cord?

When you installed a polaraized plug, did you make sure that the narrow
contact went to the power switch and the wide (neutral) prong directly to
the transformer?  Do you have 3-prong grounded outlets?  For test
equipment I ALWAYS  use a grounded plug; even the radios that I use in the
basement (concrete floor)get grounded plugs-  I'll change them to 2 prong
when I sell them (if ever).   Grounding also reduces the chances of
blowing out the inputs of sensitive transistor equipment.  -Pete O. AI2V




Article: 327514 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Terry" <tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca>
References: <439d057c$0$17816$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <tr7rp1hqafchur0m7bg8c4lo4qss4iqs3e@4ax.com>
Subject: Re: Antique TVs - repair
Message-ID: <t2Dnf.1552$PQ3.361260@news20.bellglobal.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:25:19 -0330


FWIW I've got two or three 1950s TV yokes (one of the is IIRC) brand new.
Also (I think) a horizontal flyback transfomer, somewhere. Which I will 
never use.
They are most likely from 'large neck' old RCA, GE and Admiral TVs.
If any interest is expressed I'll try and find them over the Christmas 
period and list them here.
Available for postage only.
Better somebody get some use from them.
Terry 




Article: 327515 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jeffrey D Angus <jangus@socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: hot chassis
References: <1134486783.419976.229260@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <1134487202.978153.91840@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <ce0edf381f62d97aa852517cfefe8eb6@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <1134496177.432779.156250@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <G4Enf.3474$pE4.986@tornado.socal.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:06:30 GMT



ablebravo wrote:
> i have wondered about 3 prong plugs and would prefer it -- where to put
> the ground lead of the three prong?  direct to chassis?

yes, the third wire is a "safety ground" and as such, goes directly
to the chassis.

> i guess the base question is, would this condition be found on the
> equip as new -- ie it's designed to operate that way?

Yeah, it did when they were new too. The common practice at the time
was to put a capacitor from each side of the AC line to ground.
Unfortunately, that makes a 2:1 voltage divider and can put upwards
of 60 volts AC on the chassis.

Jeff

-- 
RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to
the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal
force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED
under the Internal Security Act of 1950.


Article: 327516 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: norml <normlehf@pacbell.net>
Subject: Re: Portables using peanut tubes
Message-ID: <8j3up19i02u0chbu9pdkrlv2o7i8j216gl@4ax.com>
References: <dnl0oi$dh1$1@news2.kornet.net> <ErKdnQyarY7Y0gPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com> <dnlnua$o2a$1@news2.kornet.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:20:42 GMT

Then you also want to find a Belmont Boulevard--Raytheon's attempt to find
a consumer market for some of its WWII technical advances.

The Boulevard is the size and shape of a flat tobacco can. It sort of fits
in a shirt or coat pocket. It's a 4-tube superhet with a crystal earphone.
(The 'phone cord is the antenna.) 

It failed in the marketplace, I think partly because listening to the radio
on earphones was considered old-fashioned in 1946. It may also because
there was a history of pocket radios that were just toys.

Anyway, Americans weren't buying pocket radios in 1946. A decade later they
were paying premium prices for transistor models.

Norm Lehfeldt

"Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com> wrotf:

>
>"Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message 
>news:ErKdnQyarY7Y0gPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> peanut tubes are from the early 1920's.  Subminitures are from the
>> 40's-50's.  I think you mean submini's.  They had leads coming right out,
>> and were used in portables like the Crosley "book" radios.
>>
>> Mark Oppat
>
>Thanks Mark.. that gives me a starting point. That sort of radio is what I'm 
>looking for (not the tubes, at least not yet). Any particular makes/models I 
>can look for?
>
>


Article: 327517 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Telefunken Radio electric cord I need to buy
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:34:15 -0600
Message-ID: <18282-439F1427-605@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net>
References: <3sunf.3408$nm.2671@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>

I live over here on the West side of Jackson,Mississippi.I will ask old
eighties old year old dude Otto Wise about it when I take my Telefunken
Opus 7 AM/FM/Shortwave Raidio over there to him to check out for me.
cuhulin



Article: 327518 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: FS? Dark Shadows series on VHS
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:43:46 -0600
Message-ID: <18282-439F1662-607@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net>
References: <dnl6a7$fes$1@news2.kornet.net>

I like that pretty gal on the Sirens tv old series movies and that gal
in the Temporailay Yours (Debbie whats her name) tv shows.She likes to
collect old electic Shick wimmins shaves,, of whch I own at least seven
or eight of them,a few other brand names too..
cuhulin    



Article: 327519 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: OT (Very): AR Receiver Question
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:10:01 +0900
Message-ID: <dnn9k7$fel$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <1134392263.634700.275690@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>   <1134415271.740507.30360@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <1134416750.339027.128810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>   <1134421395.321259.303890@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <1134424329.142698.226130@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   <439E5F76.80E5A30F@earthlink.net>   <1134478233.339197.40280@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <439EE931.CBABBB14@earthlink.net>   <1134490386.212905.124430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1134500917.048289.212840@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>


"AuroraOldRadios" <menwagoh@msn.com> wrote in message 
news:1134500917.048289.212840@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
>I have a similar problem with a mid-70s Toshiba receiver. It would not
> produce Stereo sound and light the STEREO light. Tweaking the VCO (PLL
> pot) didn't help. I changed a 1500pf plastic cap on the PLL FM stereo
> decoder IC circuit. After I changed the cap, I was able to get stereo
> reception under certain circumstances, but not like it should. The
> voltages/resistance readings on the PLL IC suggested a high internal
> short (I was lucky enough to find a SAMS at the public library to
> copy). Whenever I get around to it, I will be changing that PLL IC and
> will try using a socket.
>

I forget whether Peter said he had checked the stereo lamp itself, but could 
this be one of those sets where the stereo lamp is integral to the decoder, 
and it won't get stereo if the lamp is burned out?





Article: 327520 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <xsydncBJx-MfiALenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Message-ID: <soHnf.37312$ih5.12957@dukeread11>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:52:35 -0500


"graham" <grahamiba@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:xsydncBJx-MfiALenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> <ebay_redstar_guy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> >I have a friend (not me!!!) who has a Victor item up on eBay that he
> > would like me to post to appropriate newsgroups. From the quick look at
> > posts here, I honestly don't know if you folks want them or not.
> >
> > Would someone please advise via email. Thanks.
>
>
> ... sure, post it here ... just put FA: as the first entry on the
>     subject line and include a "not mine" disclaimer above the
>     link in the text ....
>
>


hey Grahmmn

Have you ever offered any restoration advice on this group, or are
you here just to raise hell?

Pete




Article: 327521 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: David Stinson <arc5MUNGitymungmung@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Interesting Radio Spotted
Message-ID: <8MHnf.2555$n1.456@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:17:40 GMT

I'm reporting on an interesting radio I saw at a Sulpher Springs,
Texas antique shop, and in which someone here might be interested.
I cannot go back, buy it and ship it.
You'll need to work with the shop owner if you want it.

It was a Setchell-Carlson "DOR-A-PHONE" AM radio,
which appeared to be part of a radio/wireless intercom
system of some type.  Had four buttons across the top marked:
OFF-MASTER-REMOTE-TALK and a little red light in the center
marked: RADIO.  The chassis appeared in excellent shape.
Dial cord need restringing.
The bakelite case was solid except for a piece missing in
the lower right grill, but it looked like some intermediate
bond-o work and a little sculpting could fix it.
The rest of the case was nice.
I didn't have my camera, so couldn't take a photo- sorry.

The shop is Town Square Antique Mall and
the phone number is 903-438-0286.  Hours Monday 12-5,
Tues-Satur 10-5.  The seller's ID number was JE-11,
and the radio is located in the upstairs area.
He was asking $19 for it.

Just in case anyone is interested.

73 Dave S.


Article: 327522 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: ianto <capelNOSPAM@mts.net>
Subject: Re: WTB:  Hickok cardomatic cards
Message-ID: <80jup1l1i9uf5sh2vitu2t42srugs5u07u@4ax.com>
References: <2Spnf.17450$Mi5.5272@dukeread07>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:34:32 -0600

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:54:46 -0600, "Frank K." <fkarner@cox.net>
wrote:

>I'm looking for some blank cards for a HICKOK CARDOMATIC tube tester.  Also
>the 7 or so cards used for calibration and troubleshooting.  thanks, frank
>in OKC
>

Scans of the calibration cards are available for download at this
site.

http://www.theoldradiofixerupperguy.com/hickok_cardmatic_data.html

Mike Capel

capel AT mts DOT net


Article: 327523 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet>
References: <3sunf.3408$nm.2671@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> <18282-439F1427-605@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: Telefunken Radio electric cord I need to buy
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:16:13 -0500
Message-ID: <NbOdnWrggKyp0gLenZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com>

The AC cords on those sets generally match the USA TV set cords of the 60's
era.  Originally they were riveted to the back panel, but you dont have to
do that.

Mark Oppat


<cuhulin@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:18282-439F1427-605@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net...
> I live over here on the West side of Jackson,Mississippi.I will ask old
> eighties old year old dude Otto Wise about it when I take my Telefunken
> Opus 7 AM/FM/Shortwave Raidio over there to him to check out for me.
> cuhulin
>
>





Article: 327524 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "xrongor" <hacky@smackeycrackey.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 16:50:59 -0700
Message-ID: <dnnmp3$d7c8$1@news3.infoave.net>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1134509605.419626.306720@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

the guy actually did post and ask and you still complain.  you lose your 
junior newsgroup police badge for not being on top of it within the hour i 
guess.  better get on the rest of the FA posts if you want it back....

randy

> thanks for waiting for a whole HOUR to get the concensus of the group.
> if graham says it is OK, then by all means...spam away...thaat's what
> the group is for.
> 




Article: 327525 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <xsydncBJx-MfiALenZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@comcast.com> <soHnf.37312$ih5.12957@dukeread11> <TdKdnYuWB9EGygLeRVn-pA@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Message-ID: <YYJnf.37345$ih5.23756@dukeread11>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:48:03 -0500


"graham" <grahamiba@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:TdKdnYuWB9EGygLeRVn-pA@comcast.com...
>
 >
> ... not at all, just what was wrong with my answer to the question asked?
>     Was there anything false or untrue in my answer?
>     Do other posters here post in a similiar way?
>
>

Still nothing of worth to contribute, as usual.





Article: 327526 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <439F67FA.1EA8C0E@sympatico.ca>
From: John Stewart <jh.stewart@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Portables using peanut tubes
References: <dnl0oi$dh1$1@news2.kornet.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:31:54 -0500

Brenda Ann wrote:

> Anyone have any brands or model numbers of any of these? I'm looking around
> for one (with no illusions about the cost thereof).

For anyone interested I've posted the Raytheon Sub Min Tube Chart over at

alt.binaries.pictures.radio

The file is rather large, about 800 K. But the list does include the 1AD4 &
many others.

Cheers, John Stewart



Article: 327527 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Best Christmas Gift?
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:12:37 -0700
Message-ID: <29793-439F7185-231@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net>
References: <EPKdnU-yec8x9wLeRVn-tg@giganews.com>

Back in the 70`s on Xmas my dad always came up with a radio and or books
as they used to set up at the Salem Oregon flea market where a guy
always had radios . Special times those were . 



Article: 327528 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Purple Kat <purplkat@optonline.net>
Subject: Re: Antique TVs - repair
Message-ID: <mjuup1h67neahg1tnih56j9vqembmu5d34@4ax.com>
References: <439d057c$0$17816$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <tr7rp1hqafchur0m7bg8c4lo4qss4iqs3e@4ax.com> <t2Dnf.1552$PQ3.361260@news20.bellglobal.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:43:50 GMT

While coughing up a hairball, "Terry" <tsanford@nf.sympatico.ca>
paused and wrote:
>FWIW I've got two or three 1950s TV yokes (one of the is IIRC) brand new.
>Also (I think) a horizontal flyback transfomer, somewhere. Which I will 
>never use.
>They are most likely from 'large neck' old RCA, GE and Admiral TVs.
>If any interest is expressed I'll try and find them over the Christmas 
>period and list them here.
>Available for postage only.
>Better somebody get some use from them.
>Terry 

Thank goodness SOMEONE broached this subject - I have an old Magnavox
Model # 1T5004 B/W portable TV and was hoping for some help. 

I read this group for fun, but don't have any old radios - so I don't
have any experience in repairing items with tubes.

Katheryne


Article: 327529 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: New idea for transmitter
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:43:43 -0700
Message-ID: <29792-439F78CF-862@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net>
References: <fw6nf.2385$QQ1.594@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>

Modify every radio to play XM, with high hopes they'll be receiving
exactly what I intended to play from my CD's.


That cant happen . The reason to use XM would be the fact it plays many
styles of music without commercials this time of year being some Xmas
music . Cd`s are great but you have to keep changing them .  



Article: 327530 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: OT door opener fixed
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:46:47 -0700
Message-ID: <29793-439F7987-239@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net>
References: <Xns972AD4B38B02Dnoonehomecom@63.223.7.253>

We might need that ale .. the door still sticks .
I guess the ``real fix`` is to pile the garage so full of crap you cant
use it . Like half the neighbors :-) 



Article: 327531 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com>
References: <xemdnUUgJ_PKOgPeRVn-gw@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: Thanks Hagster !!!
Message-ID: <pjMnf.30864$XJ5.20359@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 03:28:21 GMT

I hope you wear a mask when you go to pick it up.  it was a steal!  :)

Keith

"Larry Fowkes" <larry@lfowkesx.com> wrote in message 
news:xemdnUUgJ_PKOgPeRVn-gw@comcast.com...
> Just wanted to publicly thank John H for posting this Miwestern Console 
> Rescure item:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-1934-Philco-Model-16X_W0QQitemZ6586319351
>
> I think I got quite a deal.
>
> Larry Fowkes
> 




Article: 327532 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Hank" <fordnut@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Another garage opener question
Message-ID: <wEMnf.34830$cA2.17638@bignews3.bellsouth.net>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 22:53:19 -0500

Does the photo sensor generate an encoded signal?  The diagnostic feature in
mine flashes a different error code for an open, a

shorted or a misaligned sensor.

Hank




Article: 327533 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard)
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 19:43:42 -0800
Message-ID: <21296-439F94EE-265@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net>
References: <lK6dnVVX0cIgGQLeRVn-jg@comcast.com>

"Grahmm", addressing Uncle Peter, tossed this little nugget:

>... as I research your contributions, how 
>much are yours worth?

Do your research, dude. And you'll find that for years Peter has been a
prolific, valued, and highly respected member and contributor here. And
a true gentleman.

Bill(oc)



Article: 327534 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard)
Subject: Re: Portables using peanut tubes
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:00:59 -0800
Message-ID: <21296-439F98FB-266@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net>
References: <439F67FA.1EA8C0E@sympatico.ca>

Robert Casey, a long-time member and contributor here, has a website
devoted to modding and 'hotrodding' AA5 radios. One of his numerous
adventures is in converting AA5 radios to use sub-mini tubes. See-
www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/9178/ and scroll down to 'Three
miniature AM radios using subminiature tubes'. 

The guy's got more guts than an Army mule. <g
                 Bill(oc) 



Article: 327535 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Paul P" <p.pinyotREMOVE@REMOVEworldnet.attREMOVE.netREMOVE>
References: <1134486783.419976.229260@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: hot chassis
Message-ID: <QtNnf.152967$qk4.91039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 04:47:44 GMT

Once you follow up on all the rest of the suggestions (caps, power switches, 
etc) you may want to try what I had to perform with some medical equipment 
that required the replacement of the power transformer (the ones that did 
not have the appropriate primary lead wire identified - usually with a dot). 
In summary you want to connect the hot lead to the appropriate side of the 
primary winding that yields the least leakage as measured with a 1k, 10k or 
100 k resistor in series with the ground lead.  Remove the resistor once you 
determine the appropriate transformer primary lead to be connect to the Hot.

Let me know if you want a procedure.

Paul P.



"ablebravo" <aburnham@triad.rr.com> wrote in message 
news:1134486783.419976.229260@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>.................... polarized-corded
> them, and recapped completely.  i believe i have polarized them
> correctly, as there is no voltage present on the case when instrument
> is off.  however when instrument is on, i can measure line voltage ac
> to ground 




Article: 327536 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Paul P" <p.pinyotREMOVE@REMOVEworldnet.attREMOVE.netREMOVE>
References: <1134486783.419976.229260@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <QtNnf.152967$qk4.91039@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: hot chassis
Message-ID: <3wNnf.152972$qk4.75569@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 04:50:07 GMT

...................with a 1k, 10k or
> 100 k resistor in series with the ground lead.  Remove the resistor once 
> you determine the appropriate transformer primary lead to be connect to 
> the Hot.>

NOTE!!!  The resistor is in line with the third wire "U" ground and NOT the 
neutral!!!! 




Article: 327537 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Paul P" <p.pinyotREMOVE@REMOVEworldnet.attREMOVE.netREMOVE>
References: <EKCdnYVq_djP7wHeRVn-oQ@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: Panel Dial Lights ...  XAMR54T
Message-ID: <4KNnf.153004$qk4.88567@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:05:04 GMT

Use three LEDs, (blue) a resistor and a diode all in series.  Typical 
voltage drop should be:

3.4v (LED) +3.4 (LED) + 3.4 (LED) + 1.7 (series resistor) + 0.7 (diode) = 
12.6v

Adjust voltages (series resistors) as necessary depending on the forward 
voltage drop of the LED.

Watts of the resistor should be = 2 times [(I of the LEDs) times 
(resistance)]

see http://www.chml.com/assets/databookpdf/4-12.pdf   for typical specs.

or

http://www.mouser.com/catalog/624/30.pdf  some thing like this.

Good luck.

PP


"David Corliss" <dcorliss@ieee.org> wrote in message 
news:EKCdnYVq_djP7wHeRVn-oQ@comcast.com...
>I require 3 Panel Dial Light bulbs ...part number XAMR54T.
> Originally manufactured by Panasonic. ... apparently no longer available.
> The application here is a Technics SA-5170 Receiver/Amplifier.
>
> .... I would appreciate any suggestion as to a substitute part. ... 12.6 
> VAC, 0.38 Amp.
>
> Thanks,
> Dave
>
>
> 




Article: 327538 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Frank K." <fkarner@cox.net>
References: <10742-439E64E8-426@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: Telefunken Radio electric cord I need to buy
Message-ID: <zONnf.80250$2k5.29807@dukeread09>
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:09:36 -0600

AES in TEMPE AZ. has the exact cord.  It is correct that it is a "standard"
TV  power cord. NON-polarized.  AES part number is S-W105.  Cost is $1.50.
But they have a handling charge.  Great radio!!  Great buy for a $200+
radio!   :-)   frank in Okla City


<cuhulin@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:10742-439E64E8-426@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net...
> About seven years ago,I bought a Telefunken Opus 7 AM/FM/Shortwave
> wooden cabinet table model radio,it is a big heavy radio too.I paid four
> dollars for the radio at a Goodwill store.I need to buy an electric cord
> that plugs into the back of the radio so I can try it out and see if it
> works ok.Does anybody know where I can buy an electric cord for the
> radio?
> cuhulin
>




Article: 327539 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: Portables using peanut tubes
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 14:16:32 +0900
Message-ID: <dno9ku$rhm$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <dnl0oi$dh1$1@news2.kornet.net> <439F67FA.1EA8C0E@sympatico.ca>


"John Stewart" <jh.stewart@sympatico.ca> wrote in message 
news:439F67FA.1EA8C0E@sympatico.ca...
> Brenda Ann wrote:
>
>> Anyone have any brands or model numbers of any of these? I'm looking 
>> around
>> for one (with no illusions about the cost thereof).
>
> For anyone interested I've posted the Raytheon Sub Min Tube Chart over at
>
> alt.binaries.pictures.radio
>
> The file is rather large, about 800 K. But the list does include the 1AD4 
> &
> many others.
>
> Cheers, John Stewart

Is there still a repeater site up for abpr? I'm unable to view binaries from 
here.





Article: 327540 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Omer  Suleimanagich" <oabukovac@earthlink.net>
References: <Xns9728DE6E44FC1noonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <KEtnf.3309$3Z.1689@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net.gnresend> <o2ntp1hirgvmj3neavjks8fskkmvrro4jr@4ax.com>
Subject: Re: USMC Field Antenna Handbook
Message-ID: <U_Nnf.4475$Dd2.3309@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 05:23:00 GMT

Figured it out on Outlook Express.

Thanks for the help

Omer



"Dale H. Cook" <bridgewaterma_remove_@cox.net> wrote in message 
news:o2ntp1hirgvmj3neavjks8fskkmvrro4jr@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 06:14:02 GMT, "Omer  Suleimanagich"
> <oabukovac@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
>>How do I download this garbage so that I can read it!?
>
> Get a real news client such as Newsbin or Agent - for downloading
> binaries Outlook is worth what you paid for it.
>
> Dale H. Cook; Research Member, NEHGS; Member, Mass. Soc. Mayf. Desc.
> Plymouth Co. MA Coordinator for the USGenWeb Project
> http://members.cox.net/oldcolony/index.shtml 




Article: 327541 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Telefunken Radio electric cord I need to buy
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:47:39 -0600
Message-ID: <18282-439FC00B-676@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net>
References: <zONnf.80250$2k5.29807@dukeread09>

AES in Tempe,Arizona sells the right power cord? Thanks for the
information.I will look up their website on the internet,if they have
one.I also own a Telefunken Grundig (it says Grundig on the grill,but
the two little owners/operating booklets that came with the radio only
mention Telefunken) wooden cabinet floor model AM/FM/Shortwave radio and
it has a phonograph built into the top of the radio.I also bought it at
a Goodwill thrift store about ten years ago,I paid $14.00 for the
radio,I think it is a Majestic model Telefunken Grundig radio and I
think it dates back to 1957,but I am not sure.And I own a Hallicrafters
model S-38EB radio which I bought for $4.00 at the (you guessed it)
Goodwill store,both of the radios do work but the Telefunken Grundig
radio doesn't put out much volume at all and I don't know how to repair
radios.Last week I paid $5.00 for a nice Pioneer AM/FM/Stereo radio and
$3.00 each for two large Pioneer speakers at the Goodwill store.I
haven't hooked the Pioneer radio up yet to see if it works ok because
there is something loose inside of the radio that makes a rattling noise
when I move the radio around.It looks like two philips head screws on
each side of the cabinet which holds the cabinet onto the radio
chassis.Later on today I will check it out.
cuhulin



Article: 327542 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Omer  Suleimanagich" <oabukovac@earthlink.net>
References: <zONnf.80250$2k5.29807@dukeread09> <18282-439FC00B-676@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: Telefunken Radio electric cord I need to buy
Message-ID: <c_Pnf.4491$Dd2.1687@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:38:48 GMT

I'm really glad to hear about your bargains!

I'm sure the newsgroups has many similar stories.

Now you can spend the money getting all of those radios serviced from the 
money you saved!

Omer


<cuhulin@webtv.net> wrote in message 
news:18282-439FC00B-676@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net...
> AES in Tempe,Arizona sells the right power cord? Thanks for the
> information.I will look up their website on the internet,if they have
> one.I also own a Telefunken Grundig (it says Grundig on the grill,but
> the two little owners/operating booklets that came with the radio only
> mention Telefunken) wooden cabinet floor model AM/FM/Shortwave radio and
> it has a phonograph built into the top of the radio.I also bought it at
> a Goodwill thrift store about ten years ago,I paid $14.00 for the
> radio,I think it is a Majestic model Telefunken Grundig radio and I
> think it dates back to 1957,but I am not sure.And I own a Hallicrafters
> model S-38EB radio which I bought for $4.00 at the (you guessed it)
> Goodwill store,both of the radios do work but the Telefunken Grundig
> radio doesn't put out much volume at all and I don't know how to repair
> radios.Last week I paid $5.00 for a nice Pioneer AM/FM/Stereo radio and
> $3.00 each for two large Pioneer speakers at the Goodwill store.I
> haven't hooked the Pioneer radio up yet to see if it works ok because
> there is something loose inside of the radio that makes a rattling noise
> when I move the radio around.It looks like two philips head screws on
> each side of the cabinet which holds the cabinet onto the radio
> chassis.Later on today I will check it out.
> cuhulin
> 




Article: 327543 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "xrongor" <hacky@smackeycrackey.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:26:23 -0700
Message-ID: <dnoofu$djqs$1@news3.infoave.net>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com>


"Phil Nelson" <philnelson@nospam.xyz> wrote in message 
news:Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com...
> Dear ebay_guy_never_heard_of_you_before:
>
> Just for the record, this group is for discussing antique radios and 
> phonos ( http://www.xs4all.nl/~tgale/oradio/index.html ).
>
> The idea here is not to sell stuff. The idea is not to auction stuff. 
> Doesn't matter if the stuff that you SPAM belongs to you or some stooge.
>
> This is a discussion newsgroup (see link above for the charter and other 
> details).
>
> "Now on eBay" SPAM is especially unwelcome if it comes from somebody who 
> has never contributed to any interesting discussions before.
>
> If you want to SPAM for crap, treasures, whatever, on eBay, you can be 
> sure that everyone reading this group A-L-R-E-A-D-Y  K-N-O-W-S how to find 
> things there. If it is not garbage, somebody will find it, and bid on it.
>
> If you care to join this group's substantive (i.e., not just peddling) 
> discussions, you're most welcome, and I look forward to your 
> contributions. The more the merrier -- dive in!
>
> P.S. If there is anyone reading this newsgroup who does not understand how 
> to find things on eBay, kindly send me some email and I will gladly 
> explain it all. Starting with the way in which any child who knows the 
> alphabet can type one or more words into the Search box and then click . . 
> . duh . . . Search.

and if someone posts auctions that you dont like you can use your newsreader 
and click... duh... block sender.

come on guys.  this is a message board.  a virtual cork board in space. 
stop acting like its your daughters wedding thats been crashed.

randy 




Article: 327544 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "xrongor" <hacky@smackeycrackey.com>
Subject: Re: Another garage opener question
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:34:28 -0700
Message-ID: <dnoov4$dk2d$1@news3.infoave.net>
References: <wEMnf.34830$cA2.17638@bignews3.bellsouth.net>

if by 'encoded signal' you mean some generated digital word or something, 
no.

randy

"Hank" <fordnut@bellsouth.net> wrote in message 
news:wEMnf.34830$cA2.17638@bignews3.bellsouth.net...
> Does the photo sensor generate an encoded signal?  The diagnostic feature 
> in
> mine flashes a different error code for an open, a
>
> shorted or a misaligned sensor.
>
> Hank
>
> 




Article: 327545 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com>
Subject: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
Message-ID: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:55:53 GMT

Just when you think you've heard it all:

http://www.cryosound.com/




Article: 327546 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com>
References: <KpGmf.6923$TU6.1288212@twister.southeast.rr.com> <8wGmf.4098$ES.1359@fe05.lga> <glHmf.1476$eD5.582973@twister.southeast.rr.com> <sc6dnTtTorVV1QbenZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: What's your opinion?
Message-ID: <T_Snf.11024$Ys4.4805@twister.nyc.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:04:19 GMT

What burns me is when they charge a LOT for shipping and you expect 
reasonable delivery only to find it shipped Media Mail or Last Class for 
1/10th what you paid.

There's such a thing as reasonable expectation when you are charged a 
premium price for shipping. Is it too much to expect them to pay another 
quarter or two to send it first class?

Then there are the ones who charge out the wazoo for shipping and don't even 
send it out for 2-3 weeks.

BTW, careful with that negative feedback. If they haven't already left you 
feedback they can retaliate with a negative of your very own.

Ray

"Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message 
news:sc6dnTtTorVV1QbenZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> if the seller said what they charge for shipping in the listing, you can 
> not
> fairly leave a negative because you agreed to the terms by bidding.
>
> I usually charge a little more than the actual postage cost to cover 
> packing
> materials and time packing (your case here, there isnt much of either).
>
>  Also, I usually estimate the ship costs and specify what I want for
> shipping in my ebay listings.  There are many times where I come out 
> short,
> too.   this is because I set a price in the auction, which I feel draws 
> more
> bidders.  For instance a pair of GT tubes might say "$3 USA,  $8 foreign".
>
> I agree the ship amount you paid was way way too much.
>
> Mark Oppat
>
>
>
> "Ron in Radio Heaven" <kc4yoy@spam.carolina.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:glHmf.1476$eD5.582973@twister.southeast.rr.com...
>> Brian Hill wrote:
>> >>
>> >
>> > He's a God damn crook Ron. No two ways about it. Did you call him on 
>> > it?
>> >
>>
>> Not yet, but negative feedback is coming.
>>
>> Ron
>>
>
>
> 




Article: 327547 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Gordon Richmond <richmond@telusplanet.net>
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
Message-ID: <rlvvp195kjlarie5ek1dss263c23l9jku9@4ax.com>
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:16:11 GMT

Soon to come:
sending them up into space so they can be filled with pure natural
vacuum, so much better than that lousy manufactured stuff.

Gordon Richmond


Article: 327548 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com>
References: <KpGmf.6923$TU6.1288212@twister.southeast.rr.com> <stImf.3207$du.1239@fed1read02> <p4OdndL9yq8SywbenZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@sigecom.net> <41f3c$439b5a81$4232bdc7$3804@COQUI.NET>
Subject: Re: What's your opinion?
Message-ID: <IhTnf.11025$Ys4.9586@twister.nyc.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:24:24 GMT

And unfortunately it's all too common for them to do so and say they made a 
mistake in the listing.

It's gotten so I ask if I even get a "vibe" from a listing.

Many really ARE making mistakes. I found one item described as "Refurbished" 
and asked about it. The seller said he made no such claim and I pointed out 
where he did. He clicked the wrong box on a form.

Another misplaced a decimal and scared away most people but I got it 
corrected by asking and got a real deal.

Another case had a high shipping cost because they entered the wrong weight 
in the calculator.

But others are deliberately setting high amounts and using "Priority" claims 
only to do the opposite after the auction closes.

The worst are those that don't list shipping costs or put up a calculator 
and say they don't know what it will cost until it's over. They could be 
some widow who really has no clue or they could be roping victims.

Sooner or later we all will be "had" by the system. It will be poorly 
packed, never sent, insurance claim denied, or sent in a manner not 
described.

Read everything, ask questions, and hope for the best. Most times you'll do 
OK but be braced for the occasional "bite."

Ray


"Bill" <exray@coqui.net> wrote in message 
news:41f3c$439b5a81$4232bdc7$3804@COQUI.NET...
> Bruce Mercer wrote:
>
>> The real problem is not the price he charged for shipping but saying it 
>> was being sent Priority Mail and then it was not. I want stuff sent 
>> Priority because of less time in the system for something to happen to 
>> it. In every single auction I bid on I find out exactly what the 
>> handling-shipping charges are going to be, then if I don't like it, I 
>> don't bid. But...it had better be sent by the method I paid for.
>>
>> Bruce
>
> Egg-zackly.  Like everyone sez, the shipping is part of the total deal. 
> Doing a switcheroo on the shipping method after it was bought and paid for 
> is just as bad as switching the item for something different.
>
> -Bill 




Article: 327549 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Larry Fowkes" <larry@lfowkesNOSPAM.com>
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
Message-ID: <VlTnf.31364$dO2.12104@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 11:28:53 GMT


"Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com> wrote in message
news:ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> Just when you think you've heard it all:
>
> http://www.cryosound.com/
>

I think they need to cryogenically treat their heads.




Article: 327550 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "xrongor" <hacky@smackeycrackey.com>
Subject: Re: What's your opinion?
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 04:58:36 -0700
Message-ID: <dnp1dc$e0p7$1@news3.infoave.net>
References: <KpGmf.6923$TU6.1288212@twister.southeast.rr.com> <8wGmf.4098$ES.1359@fe05.lga> <glHmf.1476$eD5.582973@twister.southeast.rr.com> <sc6dnTtTorVV1QbenZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com> <T_Snf.11024$Ys4.4805@twister.nyc.rr.com>


"Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com> wrote in message 
news:T_Snf.11024$Ys4.4805@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> What burns me is when they charge a LOT for shipping and you expect 
> reasonable delivery only to find it shipped Media Mail or Last Class for 
> 1/10th what you paid.
>
> There's such a thing as reasonable expectation when you are charged a 
> premium price for shipping. Is it too much to expect them to pay another 
> quarter or two to send it first class?
>
> Then there are the ones who charge out the wazoo for shipping and don't 
> even send it out for 2-3 weeks.
>
> BTW, careful with that negative feedback. If they haven't already left you 
> feedback they can retaliate with a negative of your very own.

see thats just it.  reasonable expectations.  people get divocred every day 
because of reasonable expectations.  countries have gone to war over 
reasonable expectations...

if you are prone to being bothered by such things, clarify it all up front. 
shipping cost, method, date to ship by, etc...  then you arent standing on 
some shakey 'reasonable expectations' platform when you try and get that 
retalitory negative feedback removed.

that said, all this fear of negative feedback in retaliation to legitimate 
negative feedback reminds me of being in grade school and the teacher 
telling you 'this will go down on your permanant record'.  yeah i bet tons 
of people have checked to see if i was kissing girls and throwing spitwads 
in grade school...

ebay long enough, youll get some.  cant do a thing about it.  reasonable 
buyers/sellers know this.

randy 




Article: 327551 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <43A00547.5CC49367@sympatico.ca>
From: John Stewart <jh.stewart@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Portables using peanut tubes
References: <dnl0oi$dh1$1@news2.kornet.net> <439F67FA.1EA8C0E@sympatico.ca> <dno9ku$rhm$1@news2.kornet.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:43:03 -0500

Brenda Ann wrote:

> "John Stewart" <jh.stewart@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:439F67FA.1EA8C0E@sympatico.ca...
> > Brenda Ann wrote:
> >
> >> Anyone have any brands or model numbers of any of these? I'm looking
> >> around
> >> for one (with no illusions about the cost thereof).
> >
> > For anyone interested I've posted the Raytheon Sub Min Tube Chart over at
> >
> > alt.binaries.pictures.radio
> >
> > The file is rather large, about 800 K. But the list does include the 1AD4
> > &
> > many others.
> >
> > Cheers, John Stewart
>
> Is there still a repeater site up for abpr? I'm unable to view binaries from
> here.

The file is on the way to you direct to your address above.                John
Stewart



Article: 327552 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: Portables using peanut tubes
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:28:26 +0900
Message-ID: <dnp2un$9sg$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <dnl0oi$dh1$1@news2.kornet.net> <439F67FA.1EA8C0E@sympatico.ca> <dno9ku$rhm$1@news2.kornet.net> <43A00547.5CC49367@sympatico.ca>


"John Stewart" <jh.stewart@sympatico.ca> wrote in message 
news:43A00547.5CC49367@sympatico.ca...
> The file is on the way to you direct to your address above. 
> John
> Stewart
>

Thank you kindly. :)





Article: 327553 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Ken <wklwns@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <tiVnf.38984$ih5.16035@dukeread11>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 08:42:02 -0500

Ah, let them dream. They said it was 'magic'. Ken

Rune wrote:

> Just when you think you've heard it all:
> 
> http://www.cryosound.com/
> 
> 



Article: 327554 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 06:43:13 -0700
Message-ID: <1485-43A02171-39@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1134565838.215190.181420@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

Your all FIRED    :-)



Article: 327555 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "xrongor" <hacky@smackeycrackey.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 07:01:26 -0700
Message-ID: <dnp8jm$e3ui$1@news3.infoave.net>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com>   <dnoofu$djqs$1@news3.infoave.net> <1134565782.889326.96570@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

i never commented one way or the other about whether he should or shouldnt 
post his auction here.  mostly because i cant do much about it either way.

i only commented because you made it sound like theres some official 
comittee that decides these things.  its not like you go through the 
spanking tunnel, learn the secret handshake, and suddenly you're a 'member' 
and now allowed to post auctions/sales at will.  i just find it ironic that 
others (both members of the 'in' group and random people) have made auction 
posts and you dont complain, but this guy at least asks and now he's 
catching flack.

but hey.  i guess we all got our own bugaboos.

randy

"Eddie Brimer" <eb062559@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:1134565782.889326.96570@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> it's a discussion virtual cork board. you guys were sitting there
> waiting for someone to ask if it were ok to post ebay ads here. you
> sent him the standard "sure, we love ebay ads" letter, thus promoting
> the misuse of the group.  what you should have done is ignored it like
> everybody else did.  you guys have taken it upon yourselves to be a
> welcome wagon for ebay teasers.  that is as much of a "net cop" as my
> telling them you shouldn't put them here....which i didn't do.
> 




Article: 327556 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 10:11:43 -0400
From: Bill <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <1134509605.419626.306720@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <dnnmp3$d7c8$1@news3.infoave.net>   <1134518932.993053.316360@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   <TMydndB2cMNq-gLeRVn-og@comcast.com>   <1134524569.926999.129120@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <7ZOdnZuYk95pGQLenZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com>   <1134528092.512336.265890@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   <JtWdnXwOnJQzFgLenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1134565838.215190.181420@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <cf486$43a02821$4232bd58$11240@COQUI.NET>

Eddie Brimer wrote:

> don't look now, but i think it is trying to self regulate.
> 

The only time skirmishes break out here is when a peddler jams his foot 
in the door.  And ironically, the peddler always disappears after 
posting - leaving us squabbling.
If there's a reason for ebay teasers to be unwelcome thats probably it.

It won't ever change.

-ex


Article: 327557 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jeffrey D Angus <jangus@socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <V8Xnf.3547$pE4.230@tornado.socal.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:48:05 GMT

Rune wrote:
> Just when you think you've heard it all:
> 
> http://www.cryosound.com/

Aus $120 for a pair of RECTIFIER tubes?
Oh man, I'm in the wrong business.

Jeff


-- 
RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to
the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal
force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED
under the Internal Security Act of 1950.


Article: 327558 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "xrongor" <hacky@smackeycrackey.com>
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:23:56 -0700
Message-ID: <dnprg9$ec61$1@news3.infoave.net>
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com> <V8Xnf.3547$pE4.230@tornado.socal.rr.com>


"Jeffrey D Angus" <jangus@socal.rr.com> wrote in message 
news:V8Xnf.3547$pE4.230@tornado.socal.rr.com...
> Rune wrote:
>> Just when you think you've heard it all:
>>
>> http://www.cryosound.com/
>
> Aus $120 for a pair of RECTIFIER tubes?
> Oh man, I'm in the wrong business.

i think they were rectum-fryer tubes.  cause if you buy em thats where 
you're taking it <g>

randy 




Article: 327559 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: szekeres@pitt.edu (GregS)
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:44:41 GMT
Message-ID: <dnpsn9$idh$6@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com> <V8Xnf.3547$pE4.230@tornado.socal.rr.com> <dnprg9$ec61$1@news3.infoave.net>

In article <dnprg9$ec61$1@news3.infoave.net>, "xrongor" <hacky@smackeycrackey.com> wrote:
>
>"Jeffrey D Angus" <jangus@socal.rr.com> wrote in message 
>news:V8Xnf.3547$pE4.230@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>> Rune wrote:
>>> Just when you think you've heard it all:
>>>
>>> http://www.cryosound.com/
>>
>> Aus $120 for a pair of RECTIFIER tubes?
>> Oh man, I'm in the wrong business.
>
>i think they were rectum-fryer tubes.  cause if you buy em thats where 
>you're taking it <g>
>
>randy 

I have tapped on tubes, mostly older
ones, and I see a change in current. I can actually
fine tune it sometimes. I'm assuming there is more
emmision for some reason, but for how long?

greg


Article: 327560 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: szekeres@pitt.edu (GregS)
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:46:52 GMT
Message-ID: <dnpsrc$idh$7@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com> <V8Xnf.3547$pE4.230@tornado.socal.rr.com> <dnprg9$ec61$1@news3.infoave.net> <dnpsn9$idh$6@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>

In article <dnpsn9$idh$6@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, szekeres@pitt.edu (GregS) wrote:
>In article <dnprg9$ec61$1@news3.infoave.net>, "xrongor"
> <hacky@smackeycrackey.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Jeffrey D Angus" <jangus@socal.rr.com> wrote in message 
>>news:V8Xnf.3547$pE4.230@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>>> Rune wrote:
>>>> Just when you think you've heard it all:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cryosound.com/
>>>
>>> Aus $120 for a pair of RECTIFIER tubes?
>>> Oh man, I'm in the wrong business.
>>
>>i think they were rectum-fryer tubes.  cause if you buy em thats where 
>>you're taking it <g>
>>
>>randy 

I'm going to have to check that cold treatment out.  Hows the market??

greg

>I have tapped on tubes, mostly older
>ones, and I see a change in current. I can actually
>fine tune it sometimes. I'm assuming there is more
>emmision for some reason, but for how long?
>
>greg


Article: 327561 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Telefunken Radio electric cord I need to buy
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:28:29 -0600
Message-ID: <23342-43A08E7D-75@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net>
References: <BFC56E7C.3103F%jmsent2@comcast.net>

I own a Telefunken Grundig Radio.
cuhulin



Article: 327562 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Telefunken Radio electric cord I need to buy
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 15:26:44 -0600
Message-ID: <23342-43A08E14-74@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net>
References: <BFC56E7C.3103F%jmsent2@comcast.net>

Yes,there is Telefunken Grundig too.Somebody did not just throw in
Telefunken booklets into my Telefunken Grudig Mjestic radio.
cuhulin   



Article: 327563 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <43A09E41.B72FD3A5@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com> <rlvvp195kjlarie5ek1dss263c23l9jku9@4ax.com> <iNGdnfDnoqq_4T3eRVn-pA@athenet.net>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:35:52 GMT

philo wrote:
> 
> the other toughie is restoring those mule-carried WW-1 transmitters...
> those replacement mules are also hard to find!


   Yeah, its too bad you can't substitute USENET jackasses, because you
can find them on almost any newsgroup. :(

-- 
?

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 327564 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com> <1134573981.813257.5650@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Message-ID: <To1of.30533$Mi5.1735@dukeread07>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:54:21 -0500


<ebay_redstar_guy@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1134573981.813257.5650@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Phil:
>
> Thank you for the sarcasm and childish rant.
>


Who the hell are you?  Phil has done more to promote this and help
others than all of you spammers could ever imagination.  People
who only come here to dump wares should expect the obvious.
I suspect you knew better before you dumped on our lawn.

Pete




Article: 327565 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de>
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:57:20 +0100
Message-ID: <dnq80h$ohm$02$1@news.t-online.com>
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com> <V8Xnf.3547$pE4.230@tornado.socal.rr.com> <dnprg9$ec61$1@news3.infoave.net>

xrongor wrote:
>
> > "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote:
> > Rune wrote:
> >> Just when you think you've heard it all:
> >>
> >> http://www.cryosound.com/
> >
> > Aus $120 for a pair of RECTIFIER tubes?
> > Oh man, I'm in the wrong business.
>
> i think they were rectum-fryer tubes.  cause if you buy em thats
where
> you're taking it <g>

My proprietary Lite* Cryogenic Treatment allows to sell
those tubes for half the price.

Local pick-up only, to prevent any bad influence by post-treatment.

Georg

*) -21°C   :->




Article: 327566 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Hagstar <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Re: Thanks Hagster !!!
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:31:49 -0500
Message-ID: <11q1ar53fpnu5e@corp.supernews.com>
References: <xemdnUUgJ_PKOgPeRVn-gw@comcast.com>



Larry Fowkes wrote:
> Just wanted to publicly thank John H for posting this Miwestern Console 
> Rescure item: 

You are warmly welcome! But remember it's HagSTAR :)

I have several versions of the Philco 16 and 116, they are probably my 
favorites.

John H.



Article: 327567 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Attention Ohio Types....
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:58:48 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <dnqf48$7dl$1@reader1.panix.com>
References: <11gv7u75krs5e67@corp.supernews.com> <heOdnXHaSIunAQbeRVn-ug@comcast.com>

In <heOdnXHaSIunAQbeRVn-ug@comcast.com> "graham" <grahamiba@comcast.net> writes:

>.. thanks for letting us know about this one ...

   C'mon, Graham.  Don't be such a chucklehead.

   Suppose your neighbor drops by and says "Hey Graham!  Did you see those
new hybrid Corvettes down at Joe's Auto?  Pretty sweet machines, but damn
expensive..."  Y'all might have a good time chewing the fat about cars.

   Now what if every time the guy sees you he says "Graham!  Need a car?
Got a '97 Honda here, cheap!  Gonna be collectible, it's got that deco
look.  Whadda about file cabinets?  Need a file cabinet?  Twenty bux
and it's your's!..."

   There's a HUGE difference.

-- 
                                        Tim Mullen
------------------------------------------------------------------
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Article: 327568 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Need 50Z7 tube
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 17:53:32 -0700
Message-ID: <1485-43A0BE8C-117@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1134576016.504190.71050@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

Email sent 

THANKS



Article: 327569 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 21:09:21 -0400
From: Bill <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com> <1134606876.054681.55140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <ef99b$43a0c246$4232bda2$21525@COQUI.NET>

TopCat wrote:

>
> Would it be possible to create a sub-group,
> rec.antiques.radio+phono.auctions or something like that to hold the
> auction, for-sale kinds of posts?

This has been discussed as much in the past years as the "I hate ebay 
teasers" issue.  There exists rec.antiques.marketplace or something that 
people are free to use for ads.  Anyone who wants to create what you 
suggest is free to do so too.  But its not so simple.

Why would anyone want a whole newsgroup showing a bunch of ebay teasers 
when we already have the "real' ebay...with nice search features, 
automatic notification, etc?

Its mindlessly simple for potential buyers just to search ebay without a 
fly-by-night peddler telling them what they have on ebay.

> 
> There has to be a better way to solve these problems than getting all
> over each other.

Nah, don't take it so seriously.  Spammers and scammers and ebay teasers 
are part of the Usenet scenery.  Everyone is used to it...we just like 
to yakk about it and make it seem like its a bigger issue than it really is.

-Bill


Article: 327570 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "40zeffer" <zeffer1940@aol.com>
Subject: Re: another Capehart to get gutted???
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:24:19 +0100
Message-ID: <5829874aaedb97bb8f4938ed45a373c3@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>
References: <S5ydnfb_gPDSvQDenZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@comcast.com> <1134423363.041253.203900@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

hey mark et al.  
i have a panamuse with speakers and original "drop" table in sylvania
ohio..works fine..i recapped it several years ago..love to sell it...but
should i ebay it ..offer to send parts ??
jeff
sylvania ohio



Article: 327571 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:27:34 +0900
Message-ID: <dnqgji$ok4$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com> <1134606876.054681.55140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <ef99b$43a0c246$4232bda2$21525@COQUI.NET>


"Bill" <exray@coqui.net> wrote in message 
news:ef99b$43a0c246$4232bda2$21525@COQUI.NET...
>
> Why would anyone want a whole newsgroup showing a bunch of ebay teasers 
> when we already have the "real' ebay...with nice search features, 
> automatic notification, etc?
>
> Its mindlessly simple for potential buyers just to search ebay without a 
> fly-by-night peddler telling them what they have on ebay.


Some of us mindlessly simple types don't know every model of radio, or even 
every make. I see new stuff I've never seen before almost every time I check 
out one of the links posted here. I've even had the good luck to bid and win 
one or two.





Article: 327572 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Robert Mozeleski" <robert.mozeleski@verizon.net>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com> <1134573981.813257.5650@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Message-ID: <P14of.2523$Y2.1066@trndny04>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:54:55 GMT

According to the self appointed net cops in this group, you haven't contributed enough to the group to be given a 
wavier.
Even though you politely asked before posting a FA, I'm sure you have gotten some anonymous emails telling you it's 
in violation.
Please put FA in the subject line if you post any more antique radio related auctions here. Please ignore the 
trouble makers and forward their complete emails to their isp's.

<ebay_redstar_guy@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:1134573981.813257.5650@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Phil:
>
> Thank you for the sarcasm and childish rant.
>
> I posted and received emails telling me that it was appropriate to post
> an FA to *your* newsgroup.




Article: 327573 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: The Big 8 !
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 01:55:23 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <dnqiea$fi9$1@reader1.panix.com>
References: <SkNmf.32612$q%.29970@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com> <439C4D68.A6478587@earthlink.net>

In <439C4D68.A6478587@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes:

>   At one time I was offered several of the 16 mm newsreel cameras and
>16 mm color film processing equipment from a TV news department in
>California, but the cost of shipping it across the country was just too
>high. I wonder how many of those cameras and 16 mm color film processing
>systems still exist?

   I don't know anything about the newsreel systems, but 16mm itself is
alive and well.  Modern stocks can look pretty damn good.  "Sex and the
City" was shot on super 16.

-- 
                                        Tim Mullen
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Article: 327574 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: UPS can't be THAT slow!
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:14:00 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <dnqjh8$fi9$2@reader1.panix.com>
References: <dn2mbh$b2l$1@reader2.panix.com> <YyXmf.4508$ES.1962@fe05.lga>

In <YyXmf.4508$ES.1962@fe05.lga> "Brian Hill" <jonnysocko@jps.net> writes:

>"Tim Mullen" <tim@panix.com> wrote in message 
>news:dn2mbh$b2l$1@reader2.panix.com...
>>
>>   Recently I've gotten into hardcore phonography.

>Boy Tim, at first I thought you said something else? My eyes must be going 
>:)

   Ya gotta admit, one of the things we like about vintage phonographs
is that they're horny little devils! :)

-- 
                                        Tim Mullen
------------------------------------------------------------------
Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc.
------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 -------


From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Thu Dec 15 22:57:49 EST 2005
Article: 327575 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Stephanie Weil <stephanie@gordsven.com.NOSPAM.COM>
Subject: Re: OT: 18-channel tube recording console?
References: <zsSdnQNqA43qcQDeRVn-gg@giganews.com>
Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com
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Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:327575

In article <zsSdnQNqA43qcQDeRVn-gg@giganews.com>, Phil Nelson wrote:
> 
> Zowie. Makes you wonder what's inside that thing. And why 18, exactly . . . 

18 channel recording console....as in MIXER BOARD?

Think about it.  a bunch of microphones, musical instruments, turntables,
tape machines, etc.  You have to find a way to mix all of that down to a
left and right channel for the PA system.

Think the sound-booth of a theatre.

-- 
Stephanie Weil
New York City, U.S.A.


From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Thu Dec 15 22:57:50 EST 2005
Article: 327576 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Stephanie Weil <stephanie@gordsven.com.NOSPAM.COM>
Subject: Re: Telefunken Radio electric cord I need to buy
References: <10742-439E64E8-426@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> <zONnf.80250$2k5.29807@dukeread09>
Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com
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Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:327576

In article <zONnf.80250$2k5.29807@dukeread09>, Frank K. wrote:
> AES in TEMPE AZ. has the exact cord.  It is correct that it is a "standard"
> TV  power cord. NON-polarized.  AES part number is S-W105.  Cost is $1.50.
> But they have a handling charge.  Great radio!!  Great buy for a $200+

If the OP sends me his address, I'll send him one of those, free of 
charge. I've got a bunch lying around.

-- 
Stephanie Weil
New York City, U.S.A.


Article: 327577 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: David Stinson <arc5MUNGitymungmung@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com>   <1134606876.054681.55140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <ef99b$43a0c246$4232bda2$21525@COQUI.NET>   <HJednfxkBdHbTT3enZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com> <1134613520.797666.156190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <Zv4of.214$mj1.89@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 02:27:05 GMT

Peter Wieck wrote:

> Um.... I have never had this problem. I use a set of incorrects
> spellings all the time and they go through fine. Zeneth. Dnyaco.
> Dynoca, and  **Rovex** and similar. 

You bragging, Peter? ;-)


Article: 327578 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: David Stinson <arc5MUNGitymungmung@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: One for Ray
Message-ID: <4q5of.262$mj1.18@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:29:04 GMT

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Article: 327579 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Mike Schultz" <mls2004@SPAMSPAMSPAMverizon.net>
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
Message-ID: <Nr5of.14302$Jz6.6813@trnddc06>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 03:30:53 GMT

If it sounds good, it must be expensive.
If it's expensive, it must sound good.
Repeat as necessary.

-- 
Mike Schultz


"Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com> wrote in message 
news:ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com...
> Just when you think you've heard it all:
>
> http://www.cryosound.com/
>
> 




Article: 327580 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com> <1134573981.813257.5650@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <P14of.2523$Y2.1066@trndny04>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Message-ID: <n76of.30728$Mi5.25779@dukeread07>
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:17:02 -0500


"Robert Mozeleski" <robert.mozeleski@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:P14of.2523$Y2.1066@trndny04...
> According to the self appointed net cops in this group, you haven't
contributed enough to the group to be given a
> wavier.
> Even though you politely asked before posting a FA, I'm sure you have
gotten some anonymous emails telling you it's
> in violation.
> Please put FA in the subject line if you post any more antique radio
related auctions here. Please ignore the
> trouble makers and forward their complete emails to their isp's.
>


Why don't you guys take your own advice, and block the posts from people
who don't want to see the eBay crap polluting a discussion group? We have
just as much right as anyone else to comment on the state of affairs. I'd
say  your playing net cop when gripe our opinions regarding eBay teasers.


Pete


>




Article: 327581 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Scott W. Harvey" <NOT_MY_REAL@email.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 20:36:40 -0800
Message-ID: <dnqrsm01lfg@news2.newsguy.com>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com> <1134606876.054681.55140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <ef99b$43a0c246$4232bda2$21525@COQUI.NET>

Bill wrote:

> Nah, don't take it so seriously.  Spammers and scammers and ebay teasers 
> are part of the Usenet scenery.  Everyone is used to it...we just like 
> to yakk about it and make it seem like its a bigger issue than it really 
> is.

I have pretty much given up having an opinion on this subject, but I 
will throw in my $0.02.....

I have observed that the most prolific usenet users are often the ones 
most vociferously opposed to this type of posting in this group. A few 
ads ain't too bad, too many of 'em and the group starts to turn to shit. 
This has been observed in many of the other "radio" groups and other 
groups as well.

The raucous debate over this subject is not going to change the fact 
that some FA and FS ads are posted here, but it does serve a purpose of 
maintaining an informal system of checks and balances. There is NOT a 
huge amount of CRAP in this group as a result.

Although there is nothing in the charter or FAQ for this group that 
absolutely prohibits the posting of items for sale, there is mention in 
the FAQ of maintaining "a good signal-to-noise ratio in the newsgroup". 
The once-in-awhile debate over FA postings here serves that purpose 
rather well.

For the record, the posting of FA ads generates a bad vibe here....It 
enrages as many people as it enlightens. If you must post them here, a 
defacto standard format for the subject line of your posting has 
emerged. The first three characters in the subject should be "FA:" in 
caps. That will permit the people who hate these things to easily 
kill-filter them.

-Scott




Article: 327582 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jeffrey D Angus <jangus@socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com> <1134606876.054681.55140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <ef99b$43a0c246$4232bda2$21525@COQUI.NET> <dnqrsm01lfg@news2.newsguy.com>
Message-ID: <Mb7of.6426$hI1.1702@tornado.socal.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 05:30:20 GMT



Scott W. Harvey wrote:
> The first three characters in the subject should be "FA:" in 
> caps. That will permit the people who hate these things to easily 
> kill-filter them.

Scott, that's exactly what he did. I was one of the people that
responded to his "what should I do?" query and suggested that
if he does post something here, to preface it with FA: in the
subject line, and some text ALONG WITH the eBay link in the
message body. He did BOTH.

And sure as crap attracts flies, the foam at the mouthers have
gone totally bonkers over his posting.

They were the ones that insisted that ANY eBay link be proceeded
with FA: so they could ignore it. Well, obviously the "ignore"
function is broken.

If I didn't know better, I'd suspect that they purposely look for
FA: postings just so that they can scream bloody murder.

Jeff



-- 
RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to
the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal
force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED
under the Internal Security Act of 1950.


Article: 327583 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jim Mueller <wrongname@nospam.com>
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:33:15 -0700
Message-ID: <pan.2005.12.15.05.33.09.617459@nospam.com>
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com> <V8Xnf.3547$pE4.230@tornado.socal.rr.com> <dnprg9$ec61$1@news3.infoave.net> <dnpsn9$idh$6@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>

On Wed, 14 Dec 2005 19:44:41 +0000, GregS wrote:

> In article <dnprg9$ec61$1@news3.infoave.net>, "xrongor" <hacky@smackeycrackey.com> wrote:
>>
>>"Jeffrey D Angus" <jangus@socal.rr.com> wrote in message 
>>news:V8Xnf.3547$pE4.230@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>>> Rune wrote:
>>>> Just when you think you've heard it all:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.cryosound.com/
>>>
>>> Aus $120 for a pair of RECTIFIER tubes?
>>> Oh man, I'm in the wrong business.
>>
>>i think they were rectum-fryer tubes.  cause if you buy em thats where 
>>you're taking it <g>
>>
>>randy 
> 
> I have tapped on tubes, mostly older
> ones, and I see a change in current. I can actually
> fine tune it sometimes. I'm assuming there is more
> emmision for some reason, but for how long?
> 
> greg

Unless they were diodes, you are probably moving the grid and changing the
gain.  That would cause the plate current to change.  If the tapping was
relatively gentle, the tubes are probably microphonic.

A while back there was an article in the OTB (or maybe the AWA Journal; I
don't remember if it was before or after the name change) about how
testers in the RCA factory were supposed to bang reject tubes on the table
to try to bring them into spec so they could sell them.  There were
instructions on which way to bang the tube depending on if the gain needed
to be raised or lowered.

On another topic, did anyone notice that this web site claims that someone
is currently producing 45s?  Does anyone know who that might be?

-- 
Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com

To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz.
Then replace nospam with sacbeemail.


Article: 327584 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Buck Frobisher" <farside114@hotmail.com>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed (IT'S THAT TIME AGAIN...)
Message-ID: <e77of.2483$El.277460@news20.bellglobal.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:25:27 -0500

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Disclaimer:
I humbly admit to being a low-value poster.  I am a collector so far, and my 
plan is that within three years (my retirement date) I will have begun to 
repair, restore, and sell or give away that part of my collection I choose 
not to keep long term.  I do try to answer questions where I am sure of the 
answer, but rarely do I have that chance since there are many of you on here 
(already retired, I 'm guessing) that appear to have more time to read and 
post, and so they get to them quicker and far more precisely than I could.
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-

I keep meaning to mark the dates of these periodic wars on a calendar to see 
if there is a correlation to the phases of the moon.  They come and they go, 
just as the waves on the beach.

What I find disappointing to see is that EACH AND EVERY TIME it's always 
just the same opinions and arguments dragged out for an airing once again. 
If we have nothing to say about it that hasn't already been said before, why 
bother?  Let's work on that, shall we?  What about some new reasons?  I 
don't think it's in keeping with the Season (whatever that may mean to you) 
to "skirmish" as ex called it.

Do I have to invoke the time-honoured practice of calling you all Nazis and 
thus declaring the thread closed?

If that doesn't settle you down, just wait! till your father gets home!

They key is, you always have to remember that this IS the Usenet and anyone 
can say what they bloody well please, and there is bupkiss that anyone can 
do about it.  Let me quickly add another disclaimer: if you break the law in 
a post for which you are responsible, there is always a way to get you, 
given enough dedicated interest or money to do it.

So, relax, take a deep breath, this wave is already on it's way out.  I like 
to remember the twinkle in my dad's eye when he would always say right after 
one or both of us did something dumb: "In a hundred years from now, we'll 
look back on this and laugh." .

To the OP: would you post the link again?  My server seems to have dropped 
that post!

   ::ducking and running::


-- 
"Stay calm.  Be brave.  Wait for the signs."

regards,

Frank Johansen
Aurora, Ontario




Article: 327585 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Buck Frobisher" <farside114@hotmail.com>
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com> <rlvvp195kjlarie5ek1dss263c23l9jku9@4ax.com> <iNGdnfDnoqq_4T3eRVn-pA@athenet.net> <kpCdnXoFu9i-HT3eRVn-vQ@comcast.com> <U9ednRKkT8ufBj3eRVn-tQ@athenet.net>
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
Message-ID: <pc7of.2485$El.277701@news20.bellglobal.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:30:57 -0500

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message 
news:U9ednRKkT8ufBj3eRVn-tQ@athenet.net...
> <snip>
> i had a nice bell jar full of old, vintage vacuum...
> but when i returned to my lab a few days later...
> someone had stolen it.
> the jar was completely empty!!!!  <G>

Man, you had a Bell jar??  MUST be nice!

-- 
Frank 




Article: 327586 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Buck Frobisher" <farside114@hotmail.com>
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com> <V8Xnf.3547$pE4.230@tornado.socal.rr.com> <dnprg9$ec61$1@news3.infoave.net> <dnpsn9$idh$6@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <dnpsrc$idh$7@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
Message-ID: <5k7of.2486$El.278271@news20.bellglobal.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:39:05 -0500

"GregS" <szekeres@pitt.edu> wrote in message 
news:dnpsrc$idh$7@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu...
<snip>
> I'm going to have to check that cold treatment out.  Hows the market??

Easy to do here, it's already - 25C (-13F) just outside my door! 




Article: 327587 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Buck Frobisher" <farside114@hotmail.com>
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com> <Nr5of.14302$Jz6.6813@trnddc06>
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
Message-ID: <Cn7of.2487$El.278504@news20.bellglobal.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:42:54 -0500

"Mike Schultz" <mls2004@SPAMSPAMSPAMverizon.net> wrote in message 
news:Nr5of.14302$Jz6.6813@trnddc06...
> If it sounds good, it must be expensive.
> If it's expensive, it must sound good.
> Repeat as necessary.
>
> -- 
> Mike Schultz

I've never had the luxury of comparing different tubes in an amplifier.  To 
those who have, DO you hear a significant difference?  Not just output 
tubes, but rectifiers, etc.?

Signed,

Yearning to know (really!) 




Article: 327588 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Buck Frobisher" <farside114@hotmail.com>
References: <S5ydnfb_gPDSvQDenZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@comcast.com> <1134423363.041253.203900@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5829874aaedb97bb8f4938ed45a373c3@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <aLSdnYjfeYdSQT3eRVn-jg@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: another Capehart to get gutted???
Message-ID: <4r7of.2488$El.278881@news20.bellglobal.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:46:32 -0500

"Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message 
news:aLSdnYjfeYdSQT3eRVn-jg@comcast.com...
>I would sure offer it here first, then eBay it.  Link to pix too if you
> offer it here first.  I wish I had more room...
>
> Mark Oppat

Or just for fun, make it your first post over on AK.  They seem to like that 
kind of thing.  (tongue firmly in cheek).  The flames will keep you warm on 
a wintry night. 




Article: 327589 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Buck Frobisher" <farside114@hotmail.com>
References: <439d057c$0$17816$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <tr7rp1hqafchur0m7bg8c4lo4qss4iqs3e@4ax.com> <t2Dnf.1552$PQ3.361260@news20.bellglobal.com> <mjuup1h67neahg1tnih56j9vqembmu5d34@4ax.com>
Subject: Re: Antique TVs - repair
Message-ID: <0x7of.2489$El.278921@news20.bellglobal.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:52:52 -0500

"Purple Kat" <purplkat@optonline.net> wrote in message 
news:mjuup1h67neahg1tnih56j9vqembmu5d34@4ax.com...
<snip>
> Thank goodness SOMEONE broached this subject - I have an old Magnavox
> Model # 1T5004 B/W portable TV and was hoping for some help.
>
> I read this group for fun, but don't have any old radios - so I don't
> have any experience in repairing items with tubes.
>
> Katheryne

I doubt if a tube TV set is a good beginner's project, Katheryne.  But maybe 
if you talk a bit more about it, someone here could give you a lead to an 
expert near to you.

I believe there could be safety issues too: those old sets can develop some 
highly dangerous voltages inside.

regards,
Frank 




Article: 327590 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Scott W. Harvey" <NOT_MY_REAL@email.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 22:18:10 -0800
Message-ID: <dnr1qu0kfd@news4.newsguy.com>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com> <1134606876.054681.55140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <ef99b$43a0c246$4232bda2$21525@COQUI.NET> <dnqrsm01lfg@news2.newsguy.com> <Mb7of.6426$hI1.1702@tornado.socal.rr.com>

Jeffrey D Angus wrote:

> 
> 
> Scott W. Harvey wrote:
> 
>> The first three characters in the subject should be "FA:" in caps. 
>> That will permit the people who hate these things to easily 
>> kill-filter them.
> 
> 
> Scott, that's exactly what he did. I was one of the people that
> responded to his "what should I do?" query and suggested that
> if he does post something here, to preface it with FA: in the
> subject line, and some text ALONG WITH the eBay link in the
> message body. He did BOTH.
> 
> And sure as crap attracts flies, the foam at the mouthers have
> gone totally bonkers over his posting.
> 
> They were the ones that insisted that ANY eBay link be proceeded
> with FA: so they could ignore it. Well, obviously the "ignore"
> function is broken.
> 
> If I didn't know better, I'd suspect that they purposely look for
> FA: postings just so that they can scream bloody murder.

Naaaaah...It ain't the FA posting that set everybody off...those things 
don't generate much interest at all.

It's the question the OP asked before he posted-"is it OK to post this 
here?" that raised the bitter bile in everyone's throat. Happens every 
time. If I were a troll and waited a good three to six months and then 
posted the exact same question again, I would get a minimum of 25 
responses easily, guaranteed.

Bill raised a good point earlier.....ever notice how many of these 
question-posers have never posted anything here before, and never post 
anything here again? I'd be willing to bet that at least some of them 
are lurker trolls, trying to turn the "trouble" control all the way up 
to 11 :-)

-Scott



Article: 327591 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: OT...Doorbell Solenoid Problems
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <Ztqdne8MQOCLIADeRVn-vQ@sigecom.net> <Xns972AD2327E334noonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <M6Sdnb6curqhqALenZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@sigecom.net>
Message-ID: <Xns972D546D81F91noonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:17:43 -0500

"Bruce Mercer" <maxbud12@XXXsigecom.net> wrote in 
news:M6Sdnb6curqhqALenZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@sigecom.net:

> ps. I think the chimes are marked Deagon
>  

Hmm...I thought they were Deacon.  Many of my churches still use them.



Article: 327592 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: New idea for transmitter
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <fw6nf.2385$QQ1.594@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <29792-439F78CF-862@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net>
Message-ID: <Xns972D56179FA1Enoonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:27:32 -0500

goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) wrote in news:29792-439F78CF-862@storefull-
3231.bay.webtv.net:

> Cd`s are great but you have to keep changing them .

http://www.digmind.com/

I have the 100GB model.  Uses standard 2.5" notebook hard drives and 
plays 22 hours on a charge as a portable.  Comes with nice leather 
carrying case with very heavy belt clip, too.  Plenty of power to drive 
any headphones.  I play mine through big Sennheisers.  Even amplified to 
1400 watts, there is no measurable noise.

Unlike Ipod's loading games for RIAA, Xclefs simply show up on the USB2 
port as a portable hard drive.  Windows Explorer will load songs as fast 
as USB2 will go.  The player is very non-proprietary and plays 5 formats 
flawlessly.

Because of its Linux operating system, which of course never crashes, it 
does take it a while to load, especially when it has 6000 Christmas songs 
in it this time of year...(c;  The OS is easy to upgrade, which hasn't 
been necessary in a long time, now.

No changing discs, EVER.....and no monthly fee....and works at the bottom 
of a mine shaft, if you like.  Any downloaded MP3 file plays great.

I've had 8 players, including the crappy Ipod.  This isn't the tiniest, 
it's the best.  Has MP3 recorder and FM radio, too.



Article: 327593 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: OT door opener fixed
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <Xns972AD4B38B02Dnoonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <29793-439F7987-239@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net>
Message-ID: <Xns972D56335F212noonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:28:11 -0500

goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) wrote in news:29793-439F7987-239@storefull-
3231.bay.webtv.net:

> I guess the ``real fix`` is to pile the garage so full of crap you cant
> use it . Like half the neighbors :-) 
> 
> 

That works for most everyone on THIS newsgroup....(c;



Article: 327594 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <Xns972D56817F61Bnoonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:29:59 -0500

"Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com> wrote in news:ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612
@twister.nyc.rr.com:

> Just when you think you've heard it all:
> 
> http://www.cryosound.com/
> 

Audiofools.....gotta love 'em.



Article: 327595 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Buck Frobisher" <farside114@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:53:22 -0500
Message-ID: <11q2tam7h7u7ea3@news.supernews.com>
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com> <rlvvp195kjlarie5ek1dss263c23l9jku9@4ax.com> <iNGdnfDnoqq_4T3eRVn-pA@athenet.net> <kpCdnXoFu9i-HT3eRVn-vQ@comcast.com> <U9ednRKkT8ufBj3eRVn-tQ@athenet.net> <pc7of.2485$El.277701@news20.bellglobal.com> <C_Odnd2x5Oc2xDzeRVn-oQ@athenet.net>

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message 
news:C_Odnd2x5Oc2xDzeRVn-oQ@athenet.net...
> Buck Frobisher wrote:
>> "philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message 
>> news:U9ednRKkT8ufBj3eRVn-tQ@athenet.net...
>>
>>><snip>
>>>i had a nice bell jar full of old, vintage vacuum...
>>>but when i returned to my lab a few days later...
>>>someone had stolen it.
>>>the jar was completely empty!!!!  <G>
>>
>>
>> Man, you had a Bell jar??  MUST be nice!
>>
> oh good grief..
> i was joking you know...
>
> the closest i ever got to a bell jar was in an high-school
> science class!

I knew.  :)  It just occurred to me that one or two bell jars would make a 
great display.

fj 




Article: 327596 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: New idea for transmitter
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:56:42 -0700
Message-ID: <23867-43A1761A-288@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net>
References: <Xns972D56179FA1Enoonehomecom@63.223.7.253>

That sounds nice Larry . There is noting wrong with ipod i dont think ,
they sound good .
The problem i see with any of that is you have to have a computer and
sit down to download all those songs . Computer $ porable device $ and i
thought you were supposed to pay for downloaded music $ or buy hundreds
of cd`s to load into it $

Then you have a unit full of THOSE songs and those songs only .
Everytime you turn it on its THOSE songs again .

With XM you have over 100 choices and a little personality where song
lists change and you can listen to special sports or talk shows , old
time radio dramas etc   , far more usefull in my oppinion . My XM works
on the main floor of a brick building , no windows in the room at full
signal strength ( dont try that with sirius ) The XM has docks that fit
any situation , home , car , portable , pocket use . 
Not trying to sell XM just saying its far more flexable than any
dedicated download device depending on a computer to even use it . Yes
it has a monthly fee but so does cable tv , internet service and Tevo
but a few million people dont seem to mind :-)

Those download devices are great and do have their places though .
   



Article: 327597 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Buck Frobisher" <farside114@hotmail.com>
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com>   <Nr5of.14302$Jz6.6813@trnddc06>   <Cn7of.2487$El.278504@news20.bellglobal.com> <1134649956.097865.274070@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
Message-ID: <Vveof.3540$PQ3.633717@news20.bellglobal.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:49:38 -0500

"Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:1134649956.097865.274070@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> >I've never had the luxury of comparing different tubes in an amplifier. 
> >To
>>those who have, DO you hear a significant difference?  Not just output
>>tubes, but rectifiers, etc.?
>
>
> The differences between a bad rectifier and a good one are clear.
> Similarly between a 'bad' or weak set of tubes and a good set. These
> will be both "quantity" differences (rectifier) and "quality"
> differences (other tubes).
>
> In some amps that require a 5AR4 slow-start rectifier, using a 5U4 as a
> temporary stand-in will show some differences.
> Similarly, subbing a 5881 for a 6CA7 (and correcting the bias properly)
> will show some differences. And so forth.
> Matched/close pairs will show some differences over unmatched output
> tubes. And so forth.
>
> BUT: Most of the above will be in available power output, stability at
> a given power output and similar "quantity" differences. All other
> things being equal.
>
> Where the greatest differences show up in "quality" are on the
> small-signal and driver tubes. Even with my 53 year old ears, I can
> pick out the differences between a Sylvania mil-spec 5751 and about any
> 12AX7. And between about any 12AX7 made in the US and one made by
> Telefunken or Siemens, but not one made by (labeled as) Mullard. Again,
> all other things being equal. As to which is better.... this ain't
> nohow fine wine. "Crisp with hints of boysenberry" does not have any
> validity when describing the sound. For the most part, differences
> manifest around the edges. The attack of a trumpet, snare drum, or a
> solo soprano voice. And like many things, impossible to put in words
> with any meaning... but once heard, it becomes very clear. If you have
> a tube amp, let me know what it takes. I would be glad to ship you some
> variants for you to test... but please return them when done.
>
> Peter Wieck
> Wyncote, PA

Thanks for that, Peter, it's good to know that there is some basis in the 
comments one sees about this subject.  People do generally talk about the 
differences in very indefinite terms and of course it's one of those types 
of discussions that usually becomes emotional.

And thanks -very- much for the offer of tubes to try, but although I do have 
a tube tuner (Fisher FM10000),  I don't have a tube amp.  The tuner is one 
of those things to be liquidated when I get into that mode in a few years 
since I can't see investing in a matching amp, what with the prices they 
command, plus their physical size.   I sold a Quad IIs|22 combo with the 
tuners many years before I knew what it really was, and that was the only 
brush with tube amps I've had.

I wonder if transistors could benefit from the same cryo treatment.  I can 
see it now, "Igloo Electronics: we give you the Coolest sound around".

Frank, in igloo land 




Article: 327598 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Hagstar <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Spring Meet in the Carolinas
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:34:29 -0500
Message-ID: <11q2vnleep7un43@corp.supernews.com>

Thanks to Ron's and everyone's work on the site for this event. It looks 
so inviting I'm now planning on making the drive from Vermont in March. 
It seems smarter to fly to Colorado in early March and then make a loop 
through the Carolinas and Midwest and back to Vermont in my van/camper 
in late March.

http://cc_awa.homestead.com/Charlotte.html


I apologize for my previous comments on AWA that may have seemed 
critical of it in it's entirety. The southern chapter has a more 
friendly outlook for sure, and the weather is generally Springier than 
in New England.

I'd like to know anything more about this even that Mr. Oppat, Ron L. 
and other may have, thanks.

John H.



Article: 327599 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Raymond Koonce <rkoonce@dsityler.com>
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com> <V8Xnf.3547$pE4.230@tornado.socal.rr.com> <dnprg9$ec61$1@news3.infoave.net> <dnpsn9$idh$6@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <pan.2005.12.15.05.33.09.617459@nospam.com>
Message-ID: <7xfof.29089$QW2.7597@dukeread08>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:04:11 -0600


Jim Mueller wrote:

<snip>
> 
> On another topic, did anyone notice that this web site claims that someone
> is currently producing 45s?  Does anyone know who that might be?
> 

Emission Labs is producing a Type 45 but it's kinda pricey.  I've heard 
good reviews from multiple users, but no personal experience.

This site is a US-based Emission Labs dealer 
http://www.ramlabs-musicreference.com/emlframe.html

They produce a stereo amp using this tube. 
http://www.ramlabs-musicreference.com/rm245b.html

Best regards and Happy Holidays!

Raymond



Article: 327600 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard)
Subject: Re: OT...Doorbell Solenoid Problems
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 06:53:22 -0800
Message-ID: <4223-43A18362-119@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net>
References: <Xns972D546D81F91noonehomecom@63.223.7.253>

>ps. I think the chimes are marked 
>Deagon 
>
>Hmm...I thought they were Deacon. 
>Many of my churches still use them.

.Unless they're a non-prophet organization. 
                Sorry.. back to corner
oc



Article: 327601 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: David Stinson <arc5MUNGitymungmung@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Same Song, 4,867th Verse....
Message-ID: <6Gfof.3038$n1.1163@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:08:50 GMT

Every single point being made in the "FA" thread has
been repeated a ba-zillion times in the past ten years.
Same song, 4,867th verse, blah blah blah....

People have been yelling:
"We'll be overwhelmed!  THE SKY IS FALLING!!" for ten years.
Filters still work exactly as they did ten years ago.
Ebay listings have continued at the same, modest pace.
The group continues as it always has, with the same
whiners and the same helpful, wonderful people and
lots in between.
The same people still rant and rave on
their respective sides of the fence.
Hell, we've worn grooves
where we lean over the fence carping at each other.
We take a break now and then to have coffee and cookies
so we'll have the strength to go back to the fence and carp somemore.
The newbies still come and offer the same unworkable ideas
(not their fault, of course;
it just sparks the same silly arguments *again*).

We don't "beat a dead horse" around here over Ebay.
The damn skeleton is nothing but powder now,
and still we beat the bare ground where he was.
I think people must enjoy the occasional bitch-fest,
or they wouldn't keep beating.
My groove at the fence is getting pretty old.
D.S.


Article: 327602 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: David Stinson <arc5MUNGitymungmung@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com>   <Nr5of.14302$Jz6.6813@trnddc06>   <Cn7of.2487$El.278504@news20.bellglobal.com> <1134649956.097865.274070@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <XQfof.3041$n1.912@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:20:23 GMT

Peter Wieck wrote:

> The differences between a bad rectifier and a good one are clear.

How does one account for this difference in a meaningful way?
Is there a difference in current delivering ability,
larger space charge, etc.?  Given the physics involved,
how can the differences between a 5AR4 and a 5U4 be manifested
in the output of an amp to which it is supposed to deliver clean DC?
I am not doubting your word; you say you hear the difference
and I believe you do.  I and others would like to understand
how it is possible.  I'd think the 5U4 would be able to
deliver more surge current than the 5AR4.

> Matched/close pairs will show some differences over unmatched output
> tubes. 
How do you define "matched tubes"
within the context of the audio community?

> Where the greatest differences show up in "quality" are on the
> small-signal and driver tubes. 

Again: I do not doubt what you say.
Do you have any theories that account for these differences?


Article: 327603 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Hagstar <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Re: Spring Meet in the Carolinas
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:48:11 -0500
Message-ID: <11q341s6to3vlf0@corp.supernews.com>
References: <11q2vnleep7un43@corp.supernews.com>


PS- Thanks also to Robert L.

John H.



Article: 327604 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "xrongor" <hacky@smackeycrackey.com>
Subject: Re: Same Song, 4,867th Verse....
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:30:21 -0700
Message-ID: <dns5mt$fj3t$1@news3.infoave.net>
References: <6Gfof.3038$n1.1163@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1134663951.717998.56050@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

talk about the 4867th verse, isnt this about the 4867th different name david 
has used and thus has to be blocked again?

persistant little bugger...

randy

"Bob" <das111@msn.com> wrote in message 
news:1134663951.717998.56050@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> This is the first talk about ebay ads that I have seen in eons. Is your
> overly long discouse a troll by chance or purpose?




Article: 327605 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:42:52 -0400
From: Bill <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com>   <1134606876.054681.55140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <ef99b$43a0c246$4232bda2$21525@COQUI.NET>   <HJednfxkBdHbTT3enZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com>   <1134613520.797666.156190@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <XqudnaHgKO33SD3enZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1134647297.095336.311560@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5qqdnRwYu-VoCDzeRVn-sA@comcast.com> <f4SdnSn5ZrhiCjzenZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@comcast.com> <APidnVNNesbfBzzeRVn-ow@comcast.com>
Message-ID: <d8a2e$43a19d0e$4232bd37$12121@COQUI.NET>

graham wrote:

> ... check out this link (not mine ....... ;-) ... look on the line
>     next to the small yellow flag ... other than clicking Undo
>     is there anyway to disable eBay's word correction?
> 
> http://search.ebay.com/bussmann_W0QQfromZR40QQpqryZbossmann 
> 
>

I'm just guessing but apparently this only kicks in when there are zero 
results with your desired search and at the same time many listings with 
something similar.  If there were even a single "bossman" item listing 
would this correction occur?  I have never encountered it until you 
mentioned it.

-Bill




Article: 327606 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Larry Fowkes" <larry@lfowkesNOSPAM.com>
References: <11q2vnleep7un43@corp.supernews.com> <11q341s6to3vlf0@corp.supernews.com>
Subject: Re: Spring Meet in the Carolinas
Message-ID: <34hof.33922$q%.6624@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:44:47 GMT


"Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net> wrote in message
news:11q341s6to3vlf0@corp.supernews.com...
>
> PS- Thanks also to Robert L.
>
> John H.
>
I may have to make the trip this year, I have never been to the Charlotte
meet. I have read nothing but good about it.

I spend a good bit of time in NC and SC each year, as one of our best
customers, Timken Bearing has several plants in those two states. Theres
nothing like good southern barbeque and a big glass of sweet iced tea, they
just can't duplicate that here in Michigan.

Larry Fowkes




Article: 327607 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Steve" <zarco@sonic.net>
Subject: IM-36A/URM-6 VLF field strength meter:need schematic
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:55:56 -0800
Message-ID: <43a19ff5$0$58077$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>

The title says it all. I've had one of these for years and would
like to get it going. Have no idea what power it takes (I have
identified the filaments, and B+, but there's an unknown pin).

Yes, I've done a web search and looked on the BAMA site.
No luck.

                       Steve W6SSP




Article: 327608 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: OT...Doorbell Solenoid Problems
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <Ztqdne8MQOCLIADeRVn-vQ@sigecom.net> <Xns972AD2327E334noonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <M6Sdnb6curqhqALenZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@sigecom.net> <Xns972D546D81F91noonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <1qGdnRd4FsVRDDzeRVn-pQ@sigecom.net>
Message-ID: <Xns972DA0C912AAAnoonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:48:05 -0500

"Bruce Mercer" <maxbud12@XXXsigecom.net> wrote in
news:1qGdnRd4FsVRDDzeRVn-pQ@sigecom.net: 

> There's nothing
> like the sound of the 'real thing' as compared to those crappy
> ding-dong bar-chime door bells.

I live about 9 miles from Van Bergen Bellfounders' headquarters on John's 
Island, SC.  Harry Van Bergen is several generations removed from its 
founder back in the 1790s in Holland.  Still a family-owned company 
respected throughout the world.  I'm proud to be loosely associated with 
them.  http://www.vanbergen.com/

I was in there one day to fix a Johannus organ Harry sold for a while and 
noticed this big bell on its shipping pedestal on the floor of the shop.  
"What's that sound like?", I asked Harry.  He handed me a rubber mallet 
and, not thinking of the consequences, I struck the bell.....emptying out 
the shop and office, no problem!  My ears were ringing long after the 
bell stopped...(c;

I've sold my customers a few of his electronic bell-chimes installations.  
The wav table sounds in it are digital recordings of the Van Bergen Bells 
at Clemson University.  Harry makes it all look so nice.  He takes a 
small MIDI keyboard and has a master cabinet maker build a custom cabinet 
around it to match the individual church's furniture and decor or organ 
console.  The unit actually mounts in a standard, lockable rack on a wall 
someplace and has a LCD touch screen to control it all, custom made.  It 
plays pre-recorded memory sticks for the various religious holidays, 
weddings, etc., and has a GPS-based digital clock which strikes the 
quarter hours exactly on time from the huge Electro-Voice fiberglass 
speakers mounted in the bell tower....or on a rack over the back of the 
church if there's no tower I call the "Air Raid Siren Array"...(c;  At 
several hundred watts from a pro-sound amp in the box, you can hear its 
strikes and music for many miles in all directions.  It's an impressive 
sound.  Bell Changer rings are automated and remotely controlled by the 
organist from a custom-matched little box with beautiful brass plate 
under the organ console.  There's buttons on it for TOLL - PEAL - Call to 
Worship - and any custom rings the church may want.  The organist also 
controls the outdoor amp by remote control from here so he can play the 
full-range bells or chimes on the inside speakers up in the pipe chambers 
without waking up the neighbors for 5 miles on Sunday morning.....er, ah, 
if he doesn't forget...(c;

> 
> ps. I remember climbing around in the pipe chambers at the Fox in St.
> Louis when it was
> restored years ago. Awesome! 
> 
> 

Before you die, go to Atlantic City, NJ, and visit the largest beast ever 
created.  It's in a quonset-style building as big as a small city.....
http://www.acchos.org/
Download and play the MP3 files from the website.  Plug the player into 
HUGE speakers because the lowest frequency it produces is well below what 
can be heard.  Those pipes are HUGE!  There's gallery after gallery of 
pipe chambers around the huge convention center, which has two console 
kiosks to play it from.  Six blowers draw so much starting current they 
have to let them come online one at a time to prevent electrical 
overload!  Now THAT's an organ!  You've GOT to hear a concert in person 
to believe one person can make so much music.

OH, oh....it's been a while since I looked at the news on the site.  The 
organs are not operational, now.  Hope they can raise the funds to make 
it so soon.  It takes a lot of money to make this thing run.



Article: 327609 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: New idea for transmitter
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <Xns972D56179FA1Enoonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <23867-43A1761A-288@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net>
Message-ID: <Xns972DA25CE492Anoonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:57:23 -0500

goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) wrote in news:23867-43A1761A-288@storefull-
3237.bay.webtv.net:

> The problem i see with any of that is you have to have a computer and
> sit down to download all those songs . Computer $ porable device $ and 
i
> thought you were supposed to pay for downloaded music $ or buy hundreds
> of cd`s to load into it $
> 
> Then you have a unit full of THOSE songs and those songs only .
> Everytime you turn it on its THOSE songs again .
> 
> 

Well, not exactly.  I have 21,000,000+ songs.  I've been collecting MP3s 
since its inception.  I'm downloading from 3 MP3 newsgroups as I type 
this on broadband cable at 7Mbps.  Er, ah, I think there are a few 
duplicates...(c;  They are stored on thousands of CD-Rs before the DVDs 
got cheaper.  I save exclusively to DVD+R, now.  It compacts the storage 
problems.  I doubt XM radio has over 10,000 songs at their disposal in 
any genre you like.

The player is only temporary storage.  When I get bored with a directory 
(genre) on it, I simply delete it and reload it with stuff from the main 
library I may have never played, before.  It's hardly boring...

Someone came in the shop while I was working on a Roland midi keyboard 
last week.  A baseball game was playing on the 100GB player through the 
DJ speakers always stored in the stepvan.  He didn't pay any attention to 
it until Joe De Maggio hit a home run....(c;  I have a few thousand old 
radio shows, all downloaded from Usenet just like the music and movies, 
too.



Article: 327610 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: OT door opener fixed
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <Xns972AD4B38B02Dnoonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <29793-439F7987-239@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> <Xns972D56335F212noonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <TLednXyrGd2pVDzeRVn-vA@sigecom.net>
Message-ID: <Xns972DA47401917noonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:09:43 -0500

"Bruce Mercer" <maxbud12@XXXsigecom.net> wrote in
news:TLednXyrGd2pVDzeRVn-vA@sigecom.net: 

> I bet I've got more crap in my 2 1/2 car garage than anybody, and can
> still get a car, truck, jet ski, and
> two motorcycles in there all at once. It's an artform........:-)
> 
> Bruce 
> 
I have a ham buddy who is a "collector", not of old radios, particularly, 
just "interesting electronic stuff" he finds fascinating and drags home.  
He's divorced, like me.  Stuff and wives don't seem to mix well.

If you open his front door, after climbing over the discarded chassis and 
stuff waiting for trash pickup on the front porch he welcomes anyone to 
carry off, you'll notice you cannot see the living room ceiling in front 
of you.  The crap in your garage is a pittance.  His living room hasn't 
had a human in it in, probably, 15 years?  I remember there used to be a 
path through there a long time ago, but it has been "filled in", so to 
speak, with more neat stuff.  (Either that or it was a victim of one of 
the small avalanches that happen in the night or while he's away as the 
earth rotates under the edges of the canyons.)...(c;

He's been a "gold collector" for 30 years out of the pile.  He dismounts 
many boards he buys to get the gold off them for recycling.  When I 
needed a 256 X 4 bit memory IC to fix a 1980 Wurlitzer organ noone had, I 
asked him if he had any.  He called me back and handed me a static-free 
carrier with 50 on it.  "I don't have any way of testing these.", he told 
me.  "Some of them must be good.  Just bring back what you don't use.  I 
have no use for them, I don't think."  He's careful to sort whatever he 
dismounts in case someone needs "something" wierd, like me.

When he goes to a hamfest, he always takes a big load to sell of the 
neatest stuff he's lost interest in.  But, alas, he normally brings back 
a big load of NEW "stuff".  There's a huge building and a 50' shipping 
container that are real cheap in Charleston's port in his back yard.  
They're full, too, as are several storage rental places around town.

Is that an obsession?  Sure.  I have 200+ clocks, some worth $3 I've 
fixed.  My friend is one of the finest individuals and best technicians I 
ever met.

Some day his house will simply collapse from the weight of the sorted 
parts in the attic.....I won't go up there.  The attic floor moves around 
too much for me to go up there....



Article: 327611 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Buck Frobisher" <farside114@hotmail.com>
References: <1134499320.454653.22810@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: 1913 Victor Victrola Floor Model VV-XI
Message-ID: <MOkof.4729$PQ3.677709@news20.bellglobal.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 15:59:23 -0500

Ask your friend which it is:

"Will arrange for local pickup only (no shipping)." or

"Delivery confirmation is free on all shipments!!! We gladly combine 
shipping/handling/insurance cost to save our customers money!!!"

Lousy photos, by the way.  I know it's his first sale, but jeepers, they 
look like oil paintings photographed from a distance.





Article: 327612 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:59:27 -0400
From: Bill <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com> <1134606876.054681.55140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <ef99b$43a0c246$4232bda2$21525@COQUI.NET> <3Z-dne5-MpJIfjzeRVn-tg@comcast.com>
Message-ID: <d40e6$43a1e741$4232bd35$3195@COQUI.NET>

graham wrote:


> 
> Just for fun I counted the FA: prefixed posts that appeared from
> 12/27/04 up until this after noon, there where approx. 112 ...
> 
> My Outlook Express lists the total of all posts from 12/27/04
> to this minute of this newsgroup at 31,312 ... that is .004%,
> even it there where 100 more or 200 more ....
> 
> .... seems a little insignificant doesn't it ? 

Yes indeed.  We have done an excellent job of keeping them away, I'd 
say!  Make that 0.4%, btw.

-Bill


Article: 327613 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "jim menning" <jmenningMAPS@new.rr.com>
References: <6Gfof.3038$n1.1163@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>   <1134663951.717998.56050@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <dns5mt$fj3t$1@news3.infoave.net>   <1134671771.911203.121540@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1134674703.120944.306290@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Same Song, 4,867th Verse....
Message-ID: <3Jlof.3814$7S.363@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:01:35 GMT


"You obviously don't need me for this..." <questforsquier@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1134674703.120944.306290@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>>
> (Like I said it's a Google post through a Yahoo! account. Complaints to
> any other parties will be directed to a lawyer, and I can always get
> another ISP, but I'm not being subjected to your "special" treatment
> anymore, nor do I believe any lies about how friendly it is here.
> Marxist propaganda). Goodnight, randy.
>

Keep your problems private Dinius.

jim menning 




Article: 327614 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "jim menning" <jmenningMAPS@new.rr.com>
References: <lvadnY08bPU0ggbeRVn-uA@whidbeytel.com>   <17411-439B242D-20@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> <1134248921.655388.218270@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: missing station ID tag
Message-ID: <WKlof.3815$7S.3494@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:03:34 GMT


"Steven" <questforsquier@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1134248921.655388.218270@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>
> The next person who sends vague baseless crap to Mary will be
> subpoenaed. Write to Google. Then learn how to write better threats.The
> Bush team needs help.
>

Trolling for more abuse?

jim menning 




Article: 327615 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Ken <wklwns@cox.net>
Subject: The 'Bing Crosby' Philco 1201
Message-ID: <yWlof.4$Ou3.2@dukeread09>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:15:45 -0500

I found a thread on the Antique Radio Forum from this past August, 
generalOne had one to refinish. The 46-1201 is a radio/phono, the record 
is slid into a slot in the front, auto load, like a cd today. Looks like 
a fun project, with the hokey mechanics and faux finish. Just wondering 
how well they turn out. generalOne, are you still out there? How did 
yours turn out? I plan to re-faux it or do an acrlyc transfer on it 
using Schooley's process. Ken



Article: 327616 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 07:36:28 +0900
Message-ID: <dnsqun$f97$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com> <1134606876.054681.55140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <ef99b$43a0c246$4232bda2$21525@COQUI.NET> <3Z-dne5-MpJIfjzeRVn-tg@comcast.com> <d40e6$43a1e741$4232bd35$3195@COQUI.NET> <eK2dnWRSu9R_cTzenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com>


"graham" <grahamiba@comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:eK2dnWRSu9R_cTzenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>
> "Bill" <exray@coqui.net> wrote in message 
> news:d40e6$43a1e741$4232bd35$3195@COQUI.NET...
>> graham wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Just for fun I counted the FA: prefixed posts that appeared from
>>> 12/27/04 up until this after noon, there where approx. 112 ...
>>>
>>> My Outlook Express lists the total of all posts from 12/27/04
>>> to this minute of this newsgroup at 31,312 ... that is .004%,
>>> even it there where 100 more or 200 more ....
>>>
>>> .... seems a little insignificant doesn't it ?
>
>
>> Yes indeed.  We have done an excellent job of keeping them away, I'd say!
>
> .... or there is plenty of room for many more ......... ;-)
>
>>Make that 0.4%, btw.
>
> ... no, .004 is correct ... mulitply .004 x 31,312 = 125.2
>


.004 is the decimal value of the posts. It is not the percentage. For 
percentage you need to multiply that figure by 100, ergo it would be .4% 




Article: 327617 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:45:50 -0400
From: Bill <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com> <1134606876.054681.55140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <ef99b$43a0c246$4232bda2$21525@COQUI.NET> <3Z-dne5-MpJIfjzeRVn-tg@comcast.com> <d40e6$43a1e741$4232bd35$3195@COQUI.NET> <eK2dnWRSu9R_cTzenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com>
Message-ID: <875a5$43a1f220$4232bd35$7199@COQUI.NET>

graham wrote:
> "Bill" <exray@coqui.net> wrote in message 
> news:d40e6$43a1e741$4232bd35$3195@COQUI.NET...
> 
>>graham wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Just for fun I counted the FA: prefixed posts that appeared from
>>>12/27/04 up until this after noon, there where approx. 112 ...
>>>
>>>My Outlook Express lists the total of all posts from 12/27/04
>>>to this minute of this newsgroup at 31,312 ... that is .004%,
>>>even it there where 100 more or 200 more ....
>>>
>>>.... seems a little insignificant doesn't it ?
> 
> 
> 
>>Yes indeed.  We have done an excellent job of keeping them away, I'd say!
> 
> 
> .... or there is plenty of room for many more ......... ;-)
> 
> 
>>Make that 0.4%, btw.
> 
> 
> ... no, .004 is correct ... mulitply .004 x 31,312 = 125.2
> 
> 
Graham, you love to argue even when you are wrong.  You said .004%

-Bill


Article: 327618 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Ron in Radio Heaven <kc4yoy@spam.carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Spring Meet in the Carolinas
References: <11q2vnleep7un43@corp.supernews.com>
Message-ID: <cpmof.1620$rw.1444@southeast.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 22:48:40 GMT

Hagstar wrote:
> Thanks to Ron's and everyone's work on the site for this event. It looks 
> so inviting I'm now planning on making the drive from Vermont in March. 
> http://cc_awa.homestead.com/Charlotte.html
>

Thanks John, & Mark, we look forward to seeing you both in March.
It's almost scary how close it is already...

73, Ron


Article: 327619 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:03:20 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <dnssnn$o6e$1@reader1.panix.com>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <1134509605.419626.306720@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <dnnmp3$d7c8$1@news3.infoave.net> <1134518932.993053.316360@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <TMydndB2cMNq-gLeRVn-og@comcast.com>

In <TMydndB2cMNq-gLeRVn-og@comcast.com> "graham" <grahamiba@comcast.net> writes:

>I will assume you are talking to me eddie ...

>"Eddie Brimer" <eb062559@aol.com> wrote in message 
>news:1134518932.993053.316360@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...

>>last time i checked, my opinion was just as valuable and carries
>>as much weight as yours here.

>.... I am not sure opinions have much value, but I am sure,
>     in this group, your carries more weight ...

   People tolerate more from those they know, and who have helped
them in the past.  Surely you've noticed this during your years
on planet Earth, and I'm sure you do the same.  You'll help out a
friend who calls you up at 2AM with a request, or maybe even pounds
on your door all drunk and hollerin'.  If I did that you'd be pissed.

   But here's the cool thing: anyone can attain this status.  All
you have to do to join any given group of people is hang out for
a while, share some common interests (note the plural), contribute
to the conversation, and, above all, try to get along with the
group.  It's not hard.

   Try it next time you go to the park, and welcome to Reality 101!

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Article: 327620 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Steve P." <kawninja@nospam.cableone.net>
Subject: Re: The 'Bing Crosby' Philco 1201
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:10:21 -0600
Message-ID: <11q3turmfumrt4f@corp.supernews.com>
References: <yWlof.4$Ou3.2@dukeread09> <r--dnRG5iJRoczzenZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com>

There's 2 or 3 of them around here at flea markets for $30 or so each in 
complete, very restorable condition. Must have been a very popular model 
when new.

"Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message 
news:r--dnRG5iJRoczzenZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com...

> These sets are not rare, and I have the repro dial glass if you need it.
> They work surprizingly well, but the obvious drawback is its a one play
> system,  no stacking.




Article: 327621 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:11:28 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <dnst70$o6e$2@reader1.panix.com>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com>   <dnoofu$djqs$1@news3.infoave.net> <1134565782.889326.96570@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <ZvednW3W4Yb2oj3enZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com>

In <ZvednW3W4Yb2oj3enZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com> "graham" <grahamiba@comcast.net> writes:

>    Just look at the auction link, in question, as a way to determine
>    the value of a 1913 Victor Victrola Floor Model VV-XI.

   My dad's got one of those; a VV-XIa, actually.  When I was a kid he
and my mom slopped some of that "antique white" on it that was in vogue
back then.  He still feels bad about that. :)

   How hard is that stuff to get off?  I recently asked him if he sanded
the original finish, or anything, and he said no.  Hopefully that gunk
>from the 70's was pretty wimpy.

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Article: 327622 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:21:13 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <dnstp8$o6e$3@reader1.panix.com>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com>    <1134573981.813257.5650@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    <rLqdneOumN2k7T3eRVn-qg@giganews.com>    <1134596957.225264.52460@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1134598284.746128.125170@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>

In <1134598284.746128.125170@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> writes:

>And, one of the reasons I am not terribly happy with Mark Oppat's
>repeated pointers to eBay items. NOTE: I AM WRITING ONLY MY OPINION
>HERE. They clutter up the NG with noise and raise the tolerance level
>for COMMERCIAL posts indistinguishable from DISCUSSION posts.

   On the contrary, I'm happy to see MARK's posts because he has
a breadth and depth of experience unmatched by most.  He points
out sets with unusual features I wouldn't be aware of otherwise.
I'll also sit up and pay attention to the few others here who
contribute that same priceless level of expertise.

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Article: 327623 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:24:45 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <dnstvt$o6e$4@reader1.panix.com>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com> <1134606876.054681.55140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

In <1134606876.054681.55140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "TopCat" <canthony15@msn.com> writes:

>Would it be possible to create a sub-group,
>rec.antiques.radio+phono.auctions or something like that to hold the
>auction, for-sale kinds of posts?

   Already exists.  rec.antiques.marketplace.  I think just about
any news server that carries this group would also carry that.

   I've gotten some cool things from there, including a picture
of a woman in a coffin, lying in a store.

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Article: 327624 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:35:18 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <dnsujl$o6e$5@reader1.panix.com>
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com>    <tiVnf.38984$ih5.16035@dukeread11> <1134573913.085734.265490@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

In <1134573913.085734.265490@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> writes:

>We have cryo-treated receptacles, interconnects...

>Next, I would expect a cryo-treatment applied to house wiring... then
>the branch circuits... the possibilities are endless.

>But, the motto of 'retail' is create a need.... then fill it. If you
>are first at both, your fortune is assured. 

   I'm pretty sure I've posted it before, but check this out:

         http://www.frozenrotors.com/

Would that be "autophoolery"? :)

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Article: 327625 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:40:59 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <dnsuub$o6e$6@reader1.panix.com>
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com> <rlvvp195kjlarie5ek1dss263c23l9jku9@4ax.com> <iNGdnfDnoqq_4T3eRVn-pA@athenet.net> <kpCdnXoFu9i-HT3eRVn-vQ@comcast.com>

In <kpCdnXoFu9i-HT3eRVn-vQ@comcast.com> Tom Adkins <newton5@remove.comcast.net> writes:

>philo wrote:
>> yeah...
>> one of the hardest parts of properly restoring an old radio...
>> is getting the tubes re-filled filled with the same vacuum they had back 
>> in 1924...

>  Yeah, OEM 1924 vintage vacuum is getting hard to find, as it can't be reclaimed from 
>dead tubes. Modern vacuum just doesn't give that rich, full sound. Alas, another 
>disappearing technology. ;)

   Just like those folks who insist on using pre-WWII steel:

     http://www.llnl.gov/es_and_h/hc_dept/spd/Accomplishment1.html

I tell ya, things just haven't been the same ever since the A-bomb!

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Article: 327626 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Chris F." <zappymanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com>
Subject: This guy has a few tubes to sell.....
Message-ID: <Aonof.140182$Ph4.4282772@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:56:16 GMT

http://cgi.ebay.com/20-000-Vacuum-Tubes-1920s-1960s-Zenith-Philco-Radio_W0QQ
itemZ6583142988QQcategoryZ7275QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

  Now THAT'S what I call a big bunch of tubes. Too bad he wants so much for
them, judging from the pics I don't think there's anything there to justify
that starting price. I think a starting price of $1k would probably be much
more reasonable.
  I'd certainly have fun going through all those if I bought them....




Article: 327627 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: New idea for transmitter
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:01:30 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <dnt04p$vp$1@reader1.panix.com>
References: <Xns972D56179FA1Enoonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <23867-43A1761A-288@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net>

In <23867-43A1761A-288@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) writes:

>That sounds nice Larry . There is noting wrong with ipod i dont think ,
>they sound good .
>The problem i see with any of that is you have to have a computer and
>sit down to download all those songs . Computer $ porable device $ and i
>thought you were supposed to pay for downloaded music $ or buy hundreds
>of cd`s to load into it $

>Then you have a unit full of THOSE songs and those songs only .
>Everytime you turn it on its THOSE songs again .

   There are, or at least were, MP3 players with direct audio input.
Search for "ripflash", I think.

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Article: 327628 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: This guy has a few tubes to sell.....
From: Darrell <nospam@nospam.com>
References: <Aonof.140182$Ph4.4282772@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca> <Y6qdnVqXGM9VmD_enZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com>
Message-ID: <Xns972DB9B36E270nospamnospamcom@207.69.189.191>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:15:14 GMT

It's still there. You make need to cut and paste the item number. When I 
look at his other listings, it makes me suspect that they have been 
picked over. If I was interested, I'd be careful.

Darrell




 

> that listing is gone now...
> Mark Oppat
> 
> 
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/20-000-Vacuum-Tubes-1920s-1960s-Zenith-Philco-Radio
> _W0QQ 
>> itemZ6583142988QQcategoryZ7275QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>
>>   Now THAT'S what I call a big bunch of tubes. Too bad he wants so
>>   much 
> for
>> them, judging from the pics I don't think there's anything there to
> justify
>> that starting price. I think a starting price of $1k would probably
>> be 
> much
>> more reasonable.
>>   I'd certainly have fun going through all those if I bought them....
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 



Article: 327629 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com>
References: <1134680080.549646.12570@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: anyone have photos of 1963 tv studio?
Message-ID: <qNnof.5$Ed.0@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 00:22:46 GMT

Here ya go. 1964:

http://www.kingoftheroad.net/kard.html

Ray


"waves" <wavesllc@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1134680080.549646.12570@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Hi Guys,
> Could anyone help me out on finding pics of a 1963-64 ish televison
> news studio?
> TIA
> Charlotte
> 




Article: 327630 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Carter, K8VT" <k8vt@ameritech.net>
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com>   <Nr5of.14302$Jz6.6813@trnddc06>   <Cn7of.2487$El.278504@news20.bellglobal.com>   <1134649956.097865.274070@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   <XQfof.3041$n1.912@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1134685742.092743.22730@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <Aooof.33561$dO2.21699@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:04:32 GMT

Peter Wieck wrote:
>>The differences between a bad rectifier and a good one are clear.

> Dave: A bad 5AR4 (or 5U4) passes less DC current than a good one. That
> accounts for one aspect. Sometimes (not often) they also pass a small
> AC component as well.

Could you please elaborate on this? I really don't see how a rectifier 
could pass an AC component --presumably this would mean the plate would 
have to attract negative electrons when the plate is negative.

Even assuming "passing a small Ac component" was true, if your filter 
network is doing its job (and it better be), this so-called "small AC 
component" would be gone, along with the large 120 Hz component 
(assuming full-wave rectification), leaving nothing but pure DC in any 
event...


Article: 327631 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com>
Subject: "Radiola" name usage in later models
Message-ID: <w8pof.7$Ed.2@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 01:55:40 GMT

I understand the usage of the name Radiola by RCA in the 20s but wonder why 
it continued to pop up on random models until at least 1947 in the states.

The models seem to be identical to regular RCA offerings, albeit with 
different cases or trim, and I wonder why the name persisted.

Were they sold through record stores or something? Anybody know?

Ray 




Article: 327632 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Phil Witt <w4imm@charter.net>
Subject: Re: This guy has a few tubes to sell.....
Message-ID: <qa84q19sip2bpnql0jkab23cb9ahl8k74e@4ax.com>
References: <Aonof.140182$Ph4.4282772@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:10:21 -0600

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 23:56:16 GMT, "Chris F."
<zappymanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote:



>  Now THAT'S what I call a big bunch of tubes. 

Incredible prices in his other auctions. By those prices I ought to be
asking at least $1500. for the three Telefunken 12AX7s I have listed.



Article: 327633 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: The 'Bing Crosby' Philco 1201
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 19:32:21 -0700
Message-ID: <27742-43A22735-384@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net>
References: <11q3turmfumrt4f@corp.supernews.com>

I have had 4 or 5 of these . Last one this summer was in great condition
, found it at a yard sale of all places for 17.50 .
She said ``it all works``  i thought to myself `ya right`  but i was
suprized it did even the old original phono cartridge was loud & clear .
I replaced the filters and cleaned it up , touched up the cabinet and
gave it a coat of new lacquer .
These are really beautifull when all shined up and they do work very
well phono & all and play even the big 78`s .  



Article: 327634 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 02:52:24 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <dnta58$kbr$1@reader1.panix.com>
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In <s5SdndXe37myjz_eRVn-gA@sigecom.net> "Bruce Mercer" <maxbud12@XXXsigecom.net> writes:

>Nah....So, that was YOU banging on the door?

   Heh-heh.  Oh, you'd know if it was me banging on your door. :)

I've had doorbell problems.....;-)))

   A lil' thing that wouldn't stop us.

-- 
                                        Tim Mullen
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Article: 327635 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: New idea for transmitter
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:01:34 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <dntame$kbr$2@reader1.panix.com>
References: <Xns972D56179FA1Enoonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <23867-43A1761A-288@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> <Xns972DA25CE492Anoonehomecom@63.223.7.253>

In <Xns972DA25CE492Anoonehomecom@63.223.7.253> Larry <noone@home.com> writes:

>I have 21,000,000+ songs.

   Uh, Larry, even if you assume only three minutes per tune,
that'll take you 120 YEARS of 24/7 listening to hear every one
once.  Dude, you've set yourself up for a LOT of work. :)

-- 
                                        Tim Mullen
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From adouglasatgis.net Thu Dec 15 22:58:02 EST 2005
Article: 327636 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Alan Douglas <adouglasatgis.net>
Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: OT...Doorbell Solenoid Problems
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Hi,
   Thanks for the van Bergen description. Just to set the record
straight, it's the J.C. Deagan Co (everyone had it spelled wrong) and
more info can be found here:

http://www.richsamuels.com/nbcmm/deagan/

   I have a Deagan harp in my organ.

Alan


Article: 327637 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift)
Subject: Re: Portables using peanut tubes
Date: 16 Dec 2005 03:23:04 GMT
Message-ID: <dntbuo$m8g$1@eskinews.eskimo.com>
References: <dnl0oi$dh1$1@news2.kornet.net> <ErKdnQyarY7Y0gPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com> <dnlnua$o2a$1@news2.kornet.net>

"Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com> writes:


>"Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message 
>news:ErKdnQyarY7Y0gPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> peanut tubes are from the early 1920's.  Subminitures are from the
>> 40's-50's.  I think you mean submini's.  They had leads coming right out,
>> and were used in portables like the Crosley "book" radios.
>>
>> Mark Oppat

>Thanks Mark.. that gives me a starting point. That sort of radio is what I'm 
>looking for (not the tubes, at least not yet). Any particular makes/models I 
>can look for?

Emerson 838 is popular.


-- 
Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com
NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC.      P.O. Box 55997
206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367  Seattle, Washington 98155 USA 


Article: 327638 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift)
Subject: Re: What year were 150 mA series string tubes introduced?
Date: 16 Dec 2005 03:26:53 GMT
Message-ID: <dntc5t$m9i$1@eskinews.eskimo.com>
References: <jbyrns-1512051137410001@216-80-74-57.d.enteract.com>

jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) writes:


>What year were 150 mA series string tubes, e.g. 12SA7, 12SK7, 12SQ7, 50L6,
>etc. introduced, and in which model year did they first appear in radios?

All of the ones you have listed are from 1939. Source: Ludwell Sibley's
"Tube Lore" book. (a must have for tube lovers).

>Regards,

>John Byrns


>Surf my web pages at,  http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/
-- 
Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com
NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC.      P.O. Box 55997
206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367  Seattle, Washington 98155 USA 


Article: 327639 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:36:05 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <dntcn4$4b2$1@reader1.panix.com>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com>    <1134573981.813257.5650@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    <rLqdneOumN2k7T3eRVn-qg@giganews.com>    <1134596957.225264.52460@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>    <1134598284.746128.125170@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>    <dnstp8$o6e$3@reader1.panix.com> <1134690461.573198.14260@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>

In <1134690461.573198.14260@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> writes:

>Red camel, white camel... both camels. Having the one in the tent
>gives tacit permission for the other to join it. 

   Peter, ever since Saudi Arabia you've been using that camel
analogy a lot. :) :)

   I don't agree with it, however.  Social conventions are messier
than technological-minded folks are often happy with.  There are
no hard-n-fast rules.  "Well, HE's allowed to do that, so how
come I can't?!!..."  That's just petulant.

   Society, agreement amongst people, and how you're treated by
others has as much to do with your personal history as anything.
Much to the dismay of folks with less than sterling histories,
that's the way human beings work.  And I'm absolutely positive
they judge others the exact same way.

-- 
                                        Tim Mullen
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Article: 327640 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Paul P" <p.pinyotREMOVE@REMOVEworldnet.attREMOVE.netREMOVE>
References: <1134670193.077281.119310@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: European parts supplier
Message-ID: <ZQqof.293216$zb5.121395@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 03:51:21 GMT

Thanks,
Paul
"Terry S" <tschw10117@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:1134670193.077281.119310@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> For those of you, like me, who collect some European radios, it'll be
> worth your time to check out this site:
>
> http://www.radioverzameling.nl/repro/uk/
>
> For instance, he sells a repro dial glass for the Tesla Talisman
> series. And a lot of Philips repro parts.
>
> Terry.
> 




Article: 327650 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: New idea for transmitter
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <Xns972D56179FA1Enoonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <23867-43A1761A-288@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> <Xns972DA25CE492Anoonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <dntame$kbr$2@reader1.panix.com>
Message-ID: <Xns972E980AEEB94noonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:56:28 -0500

Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com> wrote in news:dntame$kbr$2@reader1.panix.com:

>    Uh, Larry, even if you assume only three minutes per tune,
> that'll take you 120 YEARS of 24/7 listening to hear every one
> once.  Dude, you've set yourself up for a LOT of work. :)
> 
> -- 
>                                         Tim Mullen
> -

Ah, but when I'm at a party and that pretty blonde bombshell in the blue, 
low-cut dress who's been drinking since 5:45 saunters over to request "So 
and So" by "Such and Such"......she's just fascinated when I have it...
(c;

Makes it all worthwhile, even if I've never heard "So and So" by Such and 
Such.

I did an outdoor party for a Citadel Alumni class on the waterfront one 
night.  This slightly tipsy, beautiful woman came into my stepvan to 
watch me operate it all.  She stayed in there way too long and others 
came looking for her.  Some of these guys were senior officers in 
Vietnam.  I had this awful vision of a jealous husband who was a Green 
Beret stomping in after his errant wife and beating the bejesus out of 
the DJ....(c;

The parties are great fun.  Might even turn a profit if I quit buying 
more stuff and bigger amps/speakers/cabinets some day.



Article: 327651 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: jakdedert <jakdedert@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: New idea for transmitter
References: <m2Xmf.2214$QQ1.1521@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <22867-439C4CAB-286@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> <6qudnenWpbEQNAHenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@rogers.com> <jbyrns-1112051845280001@216-80-74-228.d.enteract.com> <K14nf.1690$w7.588@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <fw6nf.2385$QQ1.594@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <ephsp1tp5am1ngld035j2uh87b0ih9u3ie@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <f2Fof.172$aS5.132@bignews4.bellsouth.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:02:30 -0600

Gordon Richmond wrote:
> Gary,
> 
> I have no experience with a store-bought low-power transmitter like
> the AMT-3000, but I have built "phono oscillators" in my youth.
> 
> I doubt a loop antenna lying flat in a shallow drawer would couple
> very to the loop antenna upright on the back of the radio on the table
> top...you've got coils at 90 degrees to one another.
> 
> If I were trying to achieve the same goal; i.e. radiating an OTR
> signal from a table drawer to a radio placed atop the table, I'd go
> with a phono oscillator using a ferrite loopstick antenna, and orient
> the loopstick so its axis is parallel to the axis of the loop antenna
> on the back of the radio. If the radio were a model without a loop
> antenna, I'd simply attach a short length of wire the radio's antenna
> terminal, and lay it out on the table behind the radio, and attach a
> short length of wire to antenna terminal of the transmitter and lay it
> out in the drawer beneath.
> 
> I'd use either a portable CD player or digital media device as a
> program source, and run both it and the transmitter off alkaline D
> cells. Should run for days on a set of them.
> 
> Gordon Richmond
This whole discussion seems rather pointless.  I'd think it extremely 
doubtful that almost *any* reciever would fail to receive a signal from 
a transmitter--with almost *any* kind of reasonable antenna--sitting in 
a drawer just inches directly underneath it.

I'd think the more likely problem would be signal overload....

jak


Article: 327652 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Benjamaniac" <benjamaniac@yahoo.com>
Subject: American Bosch 480 Question
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:42:37 -0700
Message-ID: <dnv8rt$153s$1@news3.infoave.net>

    I'm working on an American Bosch 480 right now. Of course I'll be doing 
the recap thing..etc.., but the question I have is this: On the schematic it 
shows an 83V tube as the rectifer, but it has an 80 installed in itright 
now...that's the way I got it. At first I didn't think too much about it, 
assuming that the 80 was a suitable sub for the 83V. Then, out of curiosity, 
I looked in my tube sub guide and it doesn't show this as a substitute. I 
looked in my RCA manuals...same result. Looked on a few web sites...same 
result. Funny thing is...the radio DOES work with the 80 installed, but it 
sounds like hell.( which I first assumed to be the result of needing 
recapped..etc..) ARE the 83V and the 80 interchangable ?? Or could this be a 
contributing factor to it sounding so bad ?? Could any harm have resulted 
>from using the 80 in the set ?? Hmmm...just wondering as I ordered an 83V 
for it.
                 Ben 




Article: 327653 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: New idea for transmitter
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <m2Xmf.2214$QQ1.1521@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <22867-439C4CAB-286@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> <6qudnenWpbEQNAHenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@rogers.com> <jbyrns-1112051845280001@216-80-74-228.d.enteract.com> <K14nf.1690$w7.588@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <fw6nf.2385$QQ1.594@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <ephsp1tp5am1ngld035j2uh87b0ih9u3ie@4ax.com.gnresend> <k4idnWd9hdIQhD7enZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@rogers.com>
Message-ID: <Xns972E9FEAA6282noonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:42:54 -0500

"Engineer" <fakeaddress@nowhere.net> wrote in 
news:k4idnWd9hdIQhD7enZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@rogers.com:

> Just thought of something...  Surely a ferrite rod antenna would 
> transmit as well as it receives.  If so, design a simple tube RF final 
> to feed the ferrite rod and drive it from the modulated RF source, or 
> just plate moduate the final directly.
> If this works it would be simple to rotate it for the required 
> directionality.  Disclaimer: I've never done this, nor seen it done. 
> Might try it when I get time, I need an AM TX.
> Cheers,
> Roger
> 
> (snip)
> 

Negative.  Ferrite rod antennas just suck as transmitting antennas....

To radiate any EMF you need TWO fields, E and H, together would be nice 
at 90 degrees.  To get the E field, you gotta have a conductor with 
LENGTH that's a good part of a wavelength, 1/2 would be nice.  To get the 
H field, you gotta have CURRENT in that conductor, a ways up from the 
bottom would also be nice.

A ferrite antenna would radiate a nice H field, given enough current in 
the coil and a low hysteresis ferrite core, but there's no E-field to go 
along with it, so it collapses too fast to be of any use.  The opposite 
to this effect is why my huge Tesla coils with huge E-fields didn't 
radiate worth a crap even with 18' long impressive lightning...(c;

We have this E and H field problem with base-loaded rigging on boats.  We 
produce a great E field because of the L and C in the tuner at the base 
of the too-short whip or wire.  But, there's so little current in the 
wire because it's so short and its impedance is so high, there's little 
H-field produced so it radiates like crap.  Sneaky Larry adds as much 
capacitor hat to the top as I can to get some more current pulled up the 
wire, but it's still mostly E with only a little more H.

I'm a center-loading kinda guy, which gets both fields.  My HF mobile 
homebrew wins the ham mobile horseraces on all bands this way, even 
without the 650 watt linear running:

                         |
102" CB whip cut to>     |
resonate on 20M with     |
coil shorted out         |
                         |
36 spoke capacitor hat   |
36" across with ends     |
bent up to prevent arcs  |
>>>>>>>>>>>>    ---------|---------
                         |
4' stainless mast >>>>>> |
between capacitor hat    |
and main loading coil    |
                         |
                      |     |
6" diam, #10 solid    |     |
wire Henry Allen      |     |
Texas Bugcatcher      |     |
coil #680             |     |
                         |
3' stainless mast >>>>>  |
raises coil above trunk  |
                         |
                         |
Base insulator on hitch  =

Broadband matching autotransformer has 10T of #10 bare tapped at each 
turn with banana jack.  Transmitter across all 10 turns, antenna taps 
best at turn 3 for perfect impedance match to 50 ohms.  Antenna is around 
12 ohms feedpoint impedance indicating amazing current up to coil for 
great H field generation.  Capacitor hat raises more current above coil, 
especially on favorite 20 meter band where H-field-generating current is 
high all the way up to capacitor hat base.  E-field is intense caused by 
capacitor hat and whip's 15' overall length, the most that will fit under 
an overpass, but not, dammit, under untrimmed highway trees.  AT 650 
watts from my modified Tentec Hercules II drawing 120A from two golf cart 
batteries in the trunk next to it, E-field is so intense the top of the 
antenna coronas awful, as does the tip of the capacitor hat wires even 
bent over to reduce it below 7.3 Mhz.  Arcing on 75M phone or 80M RTTY 
stops traffic...(c;

The shorting tap on the coil is a plated copper braid to a crockadile 
clip that gets so hot on 40 and 80 M at power level you burn your hand 
before it cools.  It melted the plastic off it.  I left the HF packet 
station running in a Wendy's parking lot while inside having a little 
"ham lunch" with some ham friends.  I had my Tiny2/HT/laptop packet 
station on the table and was fooling around with some Canadian friends in 
New Brunswick through the mobile crossband packet node in the parking 
lot.  Suddenly some girl from the restaurant comes up to report my 
antenna is ON FIRE!  Further investigation proved her right.  On 20M the 
jumper is totally across the big coil, but there is considerable induced 
voltage from the H-field cutting across it from this jumper.  The induced 
voltage had overcome the insulation covering the jumper braid and it 
arced to the center turn of the coil where that voltage is highest, 
setting fire to my plastic insulation!  It kept arcing and smoking 
through lunch until I got to put some heavier insulation on the jumper...
(c;

Ham antennas are way more fun, MOBILE and BURNING....(c;

Another Henry Allen coil is quick-connector attached between the top mast 
above the big coil and the mast up to the capacitor hat for 160 meter 
mobile from 1.8-2.0 Mhz.  It's model 480XL, for extra long, and replaced 
a homebrew PVC coil I destroyed earlier.  PVC doesn't like RF voltage, 
much..(c;  Both the coils can be seen, and bought on:
http://www.texasbugcatcher.com/cata/tbcspec.htm#COILS
They're first class products.  My coils are now over 15 years old and 
work great, still.  Wow, the price has gone up!  I'd be afraid to park it 
at an unguarded hamfest, now....well, unless I left the packet TNC 
beaconing to burn some hands...(c;

If you'd like a transmitting antenna that's shorter than a 400' broadcast 
tower, steal my design and make it out of wire, not mast, with homemade 
coils out of transformer filament wire.  In my 1973 Mercedes DIESEL (no 
RF noise whatsoever, finest ham car ever produced), the two coils will 
resonate this 15' antenna down to 1.5 Mhz.  At 1.8 in the ham bands, 
after dark of course, reports of 20 over S9 in Mississippi from my home 
in SC are "normal"....even out performing some home stations with much 
larger wire antennas on 160M.  On 20M, it constantly gets the "loudest 
mobile station I ever heard" award from hams worldwide.

It's in my storage shed, now.  The linear is under my desk next to the 
FT-900 Yaesu in its box.  We had a ham in Charleston stealing equipment 
>from people's cars and I took it all out years ago.  He moved away, but I 
had the '73 220D restored and never put the rig and antenna back on it.  
There's just too much POWER LINE NOISE to have fun on HF mobile any 
more.....

Maybe I need to drag it all out, again.  The car's still wired for it...
(c;

73 DE W4CSC/M4



Article: 327654 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com>
References: <w8pof.7$Ed.2@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <1134700368.209302.308610@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: "Radiola" name usage in later models
Message-ID: <UnGof.9590$i1.2674@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:32:36 GMT

Yeah, all the ones I know of are low-end models but some have frills the 
regular RCA model doesn't, like a copper chassis.

I'm guessing they were a low-end offering that attempted to not undercut the 
RCA name or dealers too badly.

Ray

"AuroraOldRadios" <menwagoh@msn.com> wrote in message 
news:1134700368.209302.308610@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Based on the advertising I've seen, I think from the late 1930's into
> the late 1940's the Radiola line was a budget RCA. The late Radiolas
> are usually low end RCA models with no frills. AM and sometimes 1 SW
> band. Sometimes the Radiola is nearly identical to the RCA with a
> different model number and lower retail price.
> 




Article: 327655 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com>
References: <w8pof.7$Ed.2@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>   <1134700368.209302.308610@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <aIudnZwlt-NWcj_eRVn-tg@comcast.com> <1134760155.961063.102530@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: "Radiola" name usage in later models
Message-ID: <dsGof.9591$i1.5841@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:37:13 GMT

That would make sense. A lot. Instead of risking that a customer with an old 
junker would buy some other brand somewhere else, they assured themselves of 
the sale.

Guess that stopped working after the war as a ton of low-end competitors 
sprang up, undercutting the prices, and radio repair income.

Ray

"AuroraOldRadios" <menwagoh@msn.com> wrote in message 
news:1134760155.961063.102530@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> That's true- seems like the pitch was "instead of fixing that old radio
> for xx dollars, you can own a new Radiola for a few dollars more..."
> 




Article: 327656 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com>
Subject: Salemanship
Message-ID: <hGGof.9592$i1.1364@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:52:13 GMT

Not!

http://makeashorterlink.com/?C4022345C





Article: 327657 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: Secret Santa 2005
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:05:54 +0900
Message-ID: <dnvdhc$o9i$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <rq8gf.10407$uC3.333@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <woqhf.46853$Hs.6597@tornado.socal.rr.com> <rPDhf.1782$A23.363@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <RSGhf.21542$2k6.13492@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1133194585.389772.261290@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8RGif.43776$2k6.4519@tornado.socal.rr.com> <GfRif.49311$Hs.39343@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1133282120.592393.271220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1133808964.111459.137590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <fCZlf.4634$hI1.1875@tornado.socal.rr.com> <slrndppqei.90f.stephanie@home3.gordsven.com> <erBof.3707$pE4.2796@tornado.socal.rr.com>


"Jeffrey D Angus" <jangus@socal.rr.com> wrote in message 
news:erBof.3707$pE4.2796@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>
>
> Stephanie Weil wrote:
>> Got my little treasure in on Friday.
>
> OK folks, out with it.... What'd you get? Or are you attempting
> to show some will power and NOT opening the box until Christmas?
>
> Either way...I would like to see ALL of the gifts posted here
> on Christmas again. And over on ABPR if possible.
>
> Santa's Little Helper.

I can't post to the binaries, but here's the next best thing:

I got this beauty from my 2004 Secret Santa, it will get a place of honor on 
a shelf near an outlet, where it can become a semi-daily user.

http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/DSC00729.JPG

And as long as I'm posting my website links, there's this old favorite.. :)

http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/BrentronixM3.html

Will post my 2005 Secret Santa when it arrives! 




Article: 327658 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: New idea for transmitter
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:17:30 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <dnvedq$c6v$1@reader1.panix.com>
References: <Xns972D56179FA1Enoonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <23867-43A1761A-288@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> <Xns972DA25CE492Anoonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <dntame$kbr$2@reader1.panix.com> <Xns972E980AEEB94noonehomecom@63.223.7.253>

In <Xns972E980AEEB94noonehomecom@63.223.7.253> Larry <noone@home.com> writes:

>Ah, but when I'm at a party and that pretty blonde bombshell in the blue, 
>low-cut dress who's been drinking since 5:45 saunters over to request "So 
>and So" by "Such and Such"......she's just fascinated when I have it...

   Yabbut... part of the skill set of a DJ is "Don't have that, but I got
something better" (kinda like the cheapo electronic stores on 5th Ave.)
Trick is, it really has to be better.

   No Dj can have *everything*.  Sounds like you're trying, though. :)
May hat's off to ya!

-- 
                                        Tim Mullen
------------------------------------------------------------------
Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc.
------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 -------


Article: 327659 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM>
Subject: c.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <B9Hof.31096$Mi5.25540@dukeread07>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:25:14 -0500

If any of you guys can access this new newsgroup, let's move over there
for spam free restoration discussions.   Without the carnival barkers....

c.antiques.radio+phono


Uncle Pete




Article: 327660 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM>
References: <6Gfof.3038$n1.1163@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1134663951.717998.56050@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <dns5mt$fj3t$1@news3.infoave.net>
Subject: Re: Same Song, 4,867th Verse....
Message-ID: <JhHof.31102$Mi5.26770@dukeread07>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:33:55 -0500


"xrongor" <hacky@smackeycrackey.com> wrote in message
news:dns5mt$fj3t$1@news3.infoave.net...
> talk about the 4867th verse, isnt this about the 4867th different name
david
> has used and thus has to be blocked again?
>
> persistant little bugger...
>
> randy
>

Despite persistent denials, David does realize he's been
killed-filled by droves of users, and can't stand being ignored.

How predictable, what a hoot.

Pete




Article: 327661 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Mark S" <mshucks2@earthlink.net>
References: <ZSSnf.11023$Ys4.7612@twister.nyc.rr.com>   <tiVnf.38984$ih5.16035@dukeread11> <1134573913.085734.265490@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Cryogenic treating of tubes?
Message-ID: <7JHof.5629$3Z.996@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:03:31 GMT


"Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:1134573913.085734.265490@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> We have cryo-treated receptacles, interconnects...
>
> Next, I would expect a cryo-treatment applied to house wiring... then
> the branch circuits... the possibilities are endless.
>
> But, the motto of 'retail' is create a need.... then fill it. If you
> are first at both, your fortune is assured.
>
> Peter Wieck
> Wyncote, PA
>
I was always thought pure silver conductors, cryo treated of course, 
straight to the local powergrid would vaporize that last thin vail covering 
the sound stage..through in a few moon rocks and you're all set...
M 




Article: 327662 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: American Bosch 480 Question
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:07:27 +0900
Message-ID: <dnvh4o$fs$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <dnv8rt$153s$1@news3.infoave.net>


"Benjamaniac" <benjamaniac@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:dnv8rt$153s$1@news3.infoave.net...
>    I'm working on an American Bosch 480 right now. Of course I'll be doing 
> the recap thing..etc.., but the question I have is this: On the schematic 
> it shows an 83V tube as the rectifer, but it has an 80 installed in 
> itright now...that's the way I got it. At first I didn't think too much 
> about it, assuming that the 80 was a suitable sub for the 83V. Then, out 
> of curiosity, I looked in my tube sub guide and it doesn't show this as a 
> substitute. I looked in my RCA manuals...same result. Looked on a few web 
> sites...same result. Funny thing is...the radio DOES work with the 80 
> installed, but it sounds like hell.( which I first assumed to be the 
> result of needing recapped..etc..) ARE the 83V and the 80 interchangable 
> ?? Or could this be a contributing factor to it sounding so bad ?? Could 
> any harm have resulted from using the 80 in the set ?? Hmmm...just 
> wondering as I ordered an 83V for it.
>                 Ben


I don't see anything significantly different as far as the application is 
concerned for an antique radio.  The PRV on the 80 is 1400V vs. 1500 for the 
83.  The heater current on the 80 is 2 amperes, vs. 3 amperes for the 83, so 
that would actually be better on your power transformer (sure wouldn't want 
to go the other way).  Base pinouts are the same, so that's no concern. 
Don't see how it could cause the radio to sound bad, unless the emission 
were low enough that your B voltages were significantly low.





Article: 327663 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM>
References: <B9Hof.31096$Mi5.25540@dukeread07> <1134774876.053235.23310@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: c.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <tZHof.31116$Mi5.727@dukeread07>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:20:34 -0500


<exray@netcommander.com> wrote in message
news:1134774876.053235.23310@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> test
>

Wrong church.  Wrong Phew Two.





Article: 327664 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "F. D. Sodamann" <fritz@aculink.net>
Subject: Re: Portables using peanut tubes
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:50:17 -0700
Message-ID: <11q6kco2ruj3u74@corp.supernews.com>
References: <dnl0oi$dh1$1@news2.kornet.net> <ErKdnQyarY7Y0gPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com> <dnlnua$o2a$1@news2.kornet.net> <dntbuo$m8g$1@eskinews.eskimo.com>

There were some other Emerson sets that used the subminiature tubes but some
of sets I really like are the Motorola Pixies, the Crosley "book" sets and
the Privat-Ear sets. Sears also sold an odd small portable thatused them.
Some that have become expensive are Parrots, Belmont Belvederes (Wow $$$)
and a few British models.

I have, but not for sale, Privat-Ears, Crosley books, Emersons and the
Motorolas. They are very nice little items and I suppose I'm fond of them
because my parents gave me an Emerson for one Christmas leave from the Navy
long ago. If someone finds an affordable Belvedere, please let me know.

F.D. (Fritz) Sodamann
"Steven Swift" <novatech@eskimo.com> wrote in message
news:dntbuo$m8g$1@eskinews.eskimo.com...
> "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com> writes:
>
>
> >"Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message
> >news:ErKdnQyarY7Y0gPenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> >> peanut tubes are from the early 1920's.  Subminitures are from the
> >> 40's-50's.  I think you mean submini's.  They had leads coming right
out,
> >> and were used in portables like the Crosley "book" radios.
> >>
> >> Mark Oppat
>
> >Thanks Mark.. that gives me a starting point. That sort of radio is what
I'm
> >looking for (not the tubes, at least not yet). Any particular
makes/models I
> >can look for?
>
> Emerson 838 is popular.
>
>
> -- 
> Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com
> NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC.      P.O. Box 55997
> 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367  Seattle, Washington 98155 USA




Article: 327665 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com>
Subject: Laugh of the day
Message-ID: <4wIof.1345$Ed.960@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:57:52 GMT

Well, it made me laugh.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2452645C

Ray 




Article: 327666 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "William R. Walsh" <newgroups1@nojunquemail.walshcomptech.com>
References: <afqcp1ts3va0etoourv825l2tttkeho77k@4ax.com>   <1134041759.716490.188810@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>   <vnihp1hq38d1mkmm99qu7tisi0mds0k40k@4ax.com> <1134131494.202119.229020@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: What Effect Does Diff. Size Vol. Ctrl. Have?
Message-ID: <DAIof.651467$xm3.155716@attbi_s21>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:02:43 GMT

Hi!

>  Not Found
> The requested URL /~bb/ma.htm was not found on this server.

Where did it go?

William




Article: 327667 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Lou deGonzague <zenith@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: Re: This guy has a few tubes to sell.....
References: <Aonof.140182$Ph4.4282772@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca> <APWdnZ2XreCyjT7eRVn-vQ@rogers.com> <OrSdnfuNe85c1z7eRVn-qQ@comcast.com>
Message-ID: <6HIof.33130$XC4.13549@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:09:38 GMT

To me there is no way to guess at the value of a box of tubes without 
looking through it and being able to test some of the higher value ones. 
A box of dead 45's is worth a few tube bases. An old box of crap could 
have one really good WE 274 or a nice globe 50 making it a great deal. 
Pay only about 25 cents ea. for used radio tubes, used TV types are 
worth nothing . These big lots on Ebay for thousands are best left to 
somebody who thinks they found the Holy Grail, only to find it's a 
plastic replica!

Mark Oppat wrote:
> The reject rate can vary all over the spectrum... depends mostly on who
> owned the tubes before and what their criteria for saving them was...
> some service shops threw every loose tube into a junk box, others only saved
> known good ones... others, and this seems the most common, are the old tubes
> from any replacement job... could be good OR bad.
> 
> Overall, I find about a 20-25% bad rate using a Mutual Conduction tester.
> Emission testers will not catch as many bad ones, both will catch shorts or
> open filiments of course.
> 
> Mark Oppat
> 
> 
> "Engineer" <fakeaddress@nowhere.net> wrote in message
> news:APWdnZ2XreCyjT7eRVn-vQ@rogers.com...
> 
>>"Chris F." <zappymanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:Aonof.140182$Ph4.4282772@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca...
>>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/20-000-Vacuum-Tubes-1920s-1960s-Zenith-Philco-Radio_W0QQ
> 
>>>itemZ6583142988QQcategoryZ7275QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>>>
>>> Now THAT'S what I call a big bunch of tubes. Too bad he wants so
>>>much for
>>>them, judging from the pics I don't think there's anything there to
>>>justify
>>>that starting price. I think a starting price of $1k would probably
>>>be much
>>>more reasonable.
>>> I'd certainly have fun going through all those if I bought them....
>>>
>>
>>Hi, Vacuumlanders!
>>The thread below raises the question - just what is a (more normal)
>>box of old tubes worth, sight unseen, not tested?
>>Here's a recent, rather trivial experience I had.  In a military
>>antique store near here (run by a very nice honest chap) there was a
>>small trunk-sized box of very mixed tubes - mostly, if not all, pulls:
>>battery and AC, a few boxed (but so what.)  I didn't count them but
>>would guess no more than 250, mostly octals and 4/5 pin and including
>>quite a few rather rusty metal can 6SH7, 6SK7 types (they looked
>>terrible!)  I offered CAN$20 for the lot.  "No", he said (of course!),
>>"They are on consignment and I have to get CAN$75 for the lot" (about
>>US$65.)
>>"Too much"  said I, and some more very friendly chat followed.
>>Finally, I asked if I could sort through them and pick out a few that
>>I wanted.  "OK" he said. So, squeezed in the small aisle space (you
>>could not lay them out, my wife and I could only turn them over
>>randomly in the box), I selected about a dozen rectifiers (mostly 5U4
>>variants, a couple of 5V4's and one 80), plus two 6K6's that looked
>>clean, and a very new looking 6SK7 (marked "tests great!")  Anyway, I
>>ended up with 20 tubes and the box level did not seem to have gone
>>down by much.
>>"How about $10 bucks", I said.  "How about $20" he said. "Too rich for
>>me", I said, "would you take $15?"  "Make it $18", he said.  I said
>>"Let me put 2 of these rectifiers back and I'll still give you $15".
>>"OK" he said. So I put 2 back and he put the remaining 18 tubes in a
>>plastic bag.  But that's not the end, of course.
>>I took them home and tested them all on my Heathkit TC-2 tester. Seven
>>failed, 2 from dead heaters and 5 from low emission, including one of
>>the "clean 6K6's" (bad emission) - so my yield of "good" and "good
>>plus" was 11 tubes for CAN$15, or CAN$1.36 each.  That's a 35% reject
>>rate. I'm not complaining, even though I now have more mixed power
>>rectifiers than I will ever use!  Of course the box has now been
>>roughly (but not rigorously) picked over but the chap now needs to get
>>CAN$60 for the rest.  Perhaps he will, who knows?  BTW, this is not
>>about my deal, good or bad... for me, the price of admission was worth
>>the fun.
>>Some questions:
>>1. What is the typical reject rate for a box of unknown tubes?
>>2. What's a fair price per tube for a largish (say, 100 to 300) random
>>lot of unpicked over radio tubes? (assume not TV types)
>>3. What's a fair price per tube for a lot of TESTED tubes from an
>>honest seller?
>>I'm sure there is a range of answers!  But, in each case, what is
>>Maximum Likelihood Estimate (MLE) of value, i.e. $X per tube, +/- $Y
>>19 times out of 20 (95% of events.)?
>>
>>Merry Christmas to all!  May your filaments glow brightly and your
>>cathodes emit forever!
>>Cheers,
>>Roger
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 


Article: 327668 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: Laugh of the day
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:10:41 +0900
Message-ID: <dnvkre$1d6$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <4wIof.1345$Ed.960@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>


"Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com> wrote in message 
news:4wIof.1345$Ed.960@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...
> Well, it made me laugh.
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2452645C
>
> Ray
>

(@)@)
   ~~~

I want some of what that guy's smokin'.... (not really)





Article: 327669 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Lou deGonzague <zenith@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Laugh of the day
References: <4wIof.1345$Ed.960@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <mKIof.45800$ME5.33865@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:13:06 GMT

Ha Ha. I used to manage a couple RS stores and these were nice sounding 
table radios. But any more than $10 at a garage sale would be paying too 
much for me.

Rune wrote:
> Well, it made me laugh.
> 
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2452645C
> 
> Ray 
> 
> 


Article: 327670 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Nelson Gietz" <ngietz@mts.net>
References: <hGGof.9592$i1.1364@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Salemanship
Message-ID: <9NJof.385$X94.321@fe23.lga>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:26:08 -0600


"Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com> wrote in message
news:hGGof.9592$i1.1364@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...
> Not!
>
> http://makeashorterlink.com/?C4022345C
>
    Well, they got you and me looking. :>)
Nelson




Article: 327671 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Steve Stone" <zzspfleck@citlink.netzz>
References: <4wIof.1345$Ed.960@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <mKIof.45800$ME5.33865@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Laugh of the day
Message-ID: <jYJof.1325$OU3.950@news01.roc.ny>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:36:15 GMT


"Lou deGonzague" <zenith@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message 
news:mKIof.45800$ME5.33865@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Ha Ha. I used to manage a couple RS stores and these were nice sounding 
> table radios. But any more than $10 at a garage sale would be paying too 
> much for me.
>

The other day I was talking to a manager of a IT tech support group.
He commented that today's field tech, fresh out of school 20 something 
probably would have a hard time handling anything requiring commands in a 
DOS box.

Maybe the guy who put this radio up for sale is a 20 something, has no ideas 
what tubes are, is glued to an MP3 player or playstation and to him it 
really is an antique ?

Steve
N2UBP




Article: 327672 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: Laugh of the day
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 10:48:49 +0900
Message-ID: <dnvqjc$3dc$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <4wIof.1345$Ed.960@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <mKIof.45800$ME5.33865@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <jYJof.1325$OU3.950@news01.roc.ny>


"Steve Stone" <zzspfleck@citlink.netzz> wrote in message 
news:jYJof.1325$OU3.950@news01.roc.ny...
>
> "Lou deGonzague" <zenith@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message 
> news:mKIof.45800$ME5.33865@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> Ha Ha. I used to manage a couple RS stores and these were nice sounding 
>> table radios. But any more than $10 at a garage sale would be paying too 
>> much for me.
>>
>
> The other day I was talking to a manager of a IT tech support group.
> He commented that today's field tech, fresh out of school 20 something 
> probably would have a hard time handling anything requiring commands in a 
> DOS box.
>
> Maybe the guy who put this radio up for sale is a 20 something, has no 
> ideas what tubes are, is glued to an MP3 player or playstation and to him 
> it really is an antique ?


Not positive on this, but I believe that radio was manufactured within that 
20-something's lifetime.. at least someone in their mid-20's..





Article: 327673 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: New idea for transmitter
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <Xns972D56179FA1Enoonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <23867-43A1761A-288@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> <Xns972DA25CE492Anoonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <dntame$kbr$2@reader1.panix.com> <Xns972E980AEEB94noonehomecom@63.223.7.253> <dnvedq$c6v$1@reader1.panix.com>
Message-ID: <Xns972ED78A4C294noonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:10:58 -0500

Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com> wrote in news:dnvedq$c6v$1@reader1.panix.com:

>    Yabbut... part of the skill set of a DJ is "Don't have that, but I got
> something better" (kinda like the cheapo electronic stores on 5th Ave.)
> Trick is, it really has to be better.
> 

My favorite is when they walk up and say, "Do you have So'n'So?"  I boot 
the search tab on Advanced MP3 Catalogue Pro (Russian software, fast as 
hell) and a whole list of So'n'So songs comes up from various artists.  
"Which one would you like to hear?", I ask her smiling gently.  "Oh, That 
one!", she points to it.  That's a good excuse, then, to let HER click and 
drag it over into Winamp's playlist....

It's too easy....(c;

The catalog program is from:
http://www.wizetech.com/amc/index.shtml

It will catalog even my USB 300GB hard drive through the slow USB2 port in 
under 10 minutes!



Article: 327674 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: New idea for transmitter
From: Larry <noone@home.com>
References: <m2Xmf.2214$QQ1.1521@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <22867-439C4CAB-286@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> <6qudnenWpbEQNAHenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@rogers.com> <jbyrns-1112051845280001@216-80-74-228.d.enteract.com> <K14nf.1690$w7.588@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <fw6nf.2385$QQ1.594@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <ephsp1tp5am1ngld035j2uh87b0ih9u3ie@4ax.com> <f2Fof.172$aS5.132@bignews4.bellsouth.net>
Message-ID: <Xns972ED81742504noonehomecom@63.223.7.253>
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:14:13 -0500

Gordon Richmond wrote:

> but I have built "phono oscillators" in my youth.
> 

Me too, Gordon.  What finals did you use?  4-400A?  4-1000A?  811A?  813?

(c;

A pair of 833A modulators in P-P driving a pair of 833A in parallel sound 
great, even down the block!



Article: 327675 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: New idea for transmitter
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 11:44:05 +0900
Message-ID: <dnvtr1$4q7$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <m2Xmf.2214$QQ1.1521@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <22867-439C4CAB-286@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> <6qudnenWpbEQNAHenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@rogers.com> <jbyrns-1112051845280001@216-80-74-228.d.enteract.com> <K14nf.1690$w7.588@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <fw6nf.2385$QQ1.594@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <ephsp1tp5am1ngld035j2uh87b0ih9u3ie@4ax.com> <f2Fof.172$aS5.132@bignews4.bellsouth.net> <Xns972ED81742504noonehomecom@63.223.7.253>


"Larry" <noone@home.com> wrote in message 
news:Xns972ED81742504noonehomecom@63.223.7.253...
> Gordon Richmond wrote:
>
>> but I have built "phono oscillators" in my youth.
>>
>
> Me too, Gordon.  What finals did you use?  4-400A?  4-1000A?  811A?  813?
>
> (c;
>
> A pair of 833A modulators in P-P driving a pair of 833A in parallel sound
> great, even down the block!
>

Had that setup.. :) Sounded pretty good from Astoria to Seaside to the south 
and to Ilwaco to the north..





Article: 327676 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Hagstar <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Re: Spring Meet in the Carolinas
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:48:56 -0500
Message-ID: <11q6v4ot1i1ea09@corp.supernews.com>
References: <11q2vnleep7un43@corp.supernews.com>   <cpmof.1620$rw.1444@southeast.rr.com> <1134695971.568491.39510@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>


Eddie Brimer wrote:
> this is gonna be great! the hagman in carolina! 

I'm looking forward as well, March is often SO dreary here. I have 
fixer upper Edison, and Victor Ortho VV-4-3 electric and crank floor 
phonos if you want one. I'm not sure about hauling them all that way 
otherwise, do folks buy phonos at radio shows ?

As far as politics, bear in mind my extensive knowledge and approval of 
my region's deer hunting culture and pay as you go ideology. Next year 
it will be thirty years in Vermont, and I've come to identify with the 
local values, the old ones. Besides, Dave Stinson makes you look like 
Ted Kennedy, and I don't dare filter him anymore because he has too much 
of value to contribute.

John H.



Article: 327677 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: David Stinson <arc5MUNGitymungmung@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Same Song, 4,867th Verse....
References: <6Gfof.3038$n1.1163@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>   <1134663951.717998.56050@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <dns5mt$fj3t$1@news3.infoave.net>   <1134671771.911203.121540@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>   <1134674703.120944.306290@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1134756033.042037.34440@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <W4Lof.5004$Tg2.4444@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:53:42 GMT

Peter Wieck wrote:
> The most ominous development here is that Skippy appears to be back.

And he is even more obtuse and unintelligible than usual.
I have an idea- All the FA warriors turn on Skippy.
Nothing heals fractures quicker than a common enemy ;-).


Article: 327678 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:56:52 -0800
From: Saul Rabinowitz <luftmensh@notreal.com>
Subject: Goodmans Perfectionist Series GS-6 speakers
Message-ID: <43a37e76$0$95963$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>

I just came into a pair of these speakers and I'd like to know about 
them. I have not been able to search out anything on the web. Maybe one 
of you blokes in the UK has some specifications, reviews, etc. in some 
old publications that you can share with us here.

Here's what I see on the labels, etc.:
- Model is "GS-6" or "G5-6." Because of the font, I can't tell for sure 
if it's an "s" or a "5."
- 2-way
- Impedance: 12-16 ohms
- Power: 35-50w (recommended amplifier power? Peak? RMS? What?)
- Wembley, Middlesex
- Size: 24 1/8"h, 14"w, 12"d (American inches).
- The grille cloth is so thick that I can't see the drivers.
- I don't know how to safely remove the grilles to see what's in there 
(any pointers?).

What I have come up with is that Goodmans seemed committed to 
higher-impedance speakers. And, to me, this would point to use with tube 
equipment and the earliest transistor circuits. So, I'm guessing that 
they're from the early 60s.

My house is all mixed up due to construction work, and I've not been 
able to connect them and hear how they sound.

Thanks.

Saul


Article: 327679 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Mark S" <mshucks2@earthlink.net>
References: <jbyrns-1512051137410001@216-80-74-57.d.enteract.com> <ILGdncNxqapfUjzenZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: What year were 150 mA series string tubes introduced?
Message-ID: <CYLof.5748$3Z.848@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 03:53:06 GMT


"Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message 
news:ILGdncNxqapfUjzenZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> according to the excellent "Tube Lore" book by Ludwell Sibley,  those 12v
> tubes were introduced in early 1939.  Radios using them probably appeared
> that year for the 1940 model year.
>
> Mark Oppat
>
>
> "John Byrns" <jbyrns@rcn.com> wrote in message
> news:jbyrns-1512051137410001@216-80-74-57.d.enteract.com...
>>
>> What year were 150 mA series string tubes, e.g. 12SA7, 12SK7, 12SQ7, 
>> 50L6,
>> etc. introduced, and in which model year did they first appear in radios?
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John Byrns
>>
>>
>> Surf my web pages at,  http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/
>>
I seem to remember LS also commenting in the OTB years ago that the new RF S 
tubes (SK & SA) performance was improved compared to the grid cap guys. Thus 
allowing the major radio mfg's to cheapen the tuned cicuits.
MarkS 




Article: 327680 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:53:21 -0400
From: Bill <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: Spring Meet in the Carolinas
References: <11q2vnleep7un43@corp.supernews.com>   <cpmof.1620$rw.1444@southeast.rr.com> <1134695971.568491.39510@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11q6v4ot1i1ea09@corp.supernews.com>
Message-ID: <b658d$43a38bb6$4232bd07$30001@COQUI.NET>

Hagstar wrote:

> 
> Eddie Brimer wrote:
> 
>> this is gonna be great! the hagman in carolina! 
> 
> 
> I'm looking forward as well,

John, I'll pay your gas from Charlotte to Sharon SC if you'll go visit 
eddie.  I think such a meeting of the minds would be of galactical 
proportion.  Humming over coffee at the big-city-meet doesn't 
count....you have to get away from that environment.

And to eddie...John is a pleasant visitor.  He's not at all rabid and 
foaming at the mouth when you meet him in person :)  He's been down here 
to Vieques twice and there's never been enough time to trade notes and 
tell all the war-stories.

-ex


Article: 327681 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Hagstar <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Re: Spring Meet in the Carolinas
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:00:39 -0500
Message-ID: <11q73b75pa8se1b@corp.supernews.com>
References: <11q2vnleep7un43@corp.supernews.com>   <cpmof.1620$rw.1444@southeast.rr.com> <1134695971.568491.39510@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11q6v4ot1i1ea09@corp.supernews.com> <b658d$43a38bb6$4232bd07$30001@COQUI.NET>



Bill wrote:

> 
> 
> John, I'll pay your gas from Charlotte to Sharon SC if you'll go visit 
>  

He'll be there at the meet, Bill, after all I don't go mostly to BUY or 
SELL anymore. Jawing is the best part :)

John H.



Article: 327682 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com>
References: <4wIof.1345$Ed.960@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <dnvkre$1d6$1@news2.kornet.net>
Subject: Re: Laugh of the day
Message-ID: <RxMof.2523$Ed.574@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 04:32:49 GMT

Could be worse. Could be a reserve on it too.

Ray

"Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com> wrote in message 
news:dnvkre$1d6$1@news2.kornet.net...
>
> "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com> wrote in message 
> news:4wIof.1345$Ed.960@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...
>> Well, it made me laugh.
>>
>> http://makeashorterlink.com/?R2452645C
>>
>> Ray
>>
>
> (@)@)
>   ~~~
>
> I want some of what that guy's smokin'.... (not really)
>
>
> 




Article: 327683 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com>
References: <hGGof.9592$i1.1364@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <1134781983.686530.115730@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Salemanship
Message-ID: <EzMof.2524$Ed.1325@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 04:34:44 GMT

Describing honestly is one thing, talking it down is another.

But it did get attention. Not that it will sell any better than when they 
get passed over at $4.99, of course.

<shoppa@trailing-edge.com> wrote in message 
news:1134781983.686530.115730@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Rune wrote:
>> Not!
>>
>> http://makeashorterlink.com/?C4022345C
>
> I disagree completely.  Describe your item honestly, without hyperbole,
> and pessimistically in terms of condition and you'll have a hassle-free
> sale and a happy buyer.
>
> Talk up every one of your items as if it's your gift to mankind (e.g.
> radio-mart) and you'll generate a lot of hatred and pain.
>
> Related joke: Q: What's the difference between a used car salesman and
> a
> computer salesman? A: The used car salesman knows that he's lying.
>
> Tim.
> 




Article: 327684 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Buck Frobisher" <farside114@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: c.antiques.radio+phono
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:47:26 -0500
Message-ID: <11q7630nh0e554a@news.supernews.com>
References: <B9Hof.31096$Mi5.25540@dukeread07>

" Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM> wrote in message 
news:B9Hof.31096$Mi5.25540@dukeread07...
> If any of you guys can access this new newsgroup, let's move over there
> for spam free restoration discussions.   Without the carnival barkers....
>
> c.antiques.radio+phono
>
>
> Uncle Pete

Neither Supernews nor Sympatico carry that group, Peter. 




Article: 327685 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jeffrey D Angus <jangus@socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: c.antiques.radio+phono
References: <B9Hof.31096$Mi5.25540@dukeread07> <11q7630nh0e554a@news.supernews.com>
Message-ID: <T5Nof.5014$ka.846@tornado.socal.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 05:11:15 GMT



Buck Frobisher wrote:
> Neither Supernews nor Sympatico carry that group, Peter. 

It's not on the socal.rr.com news server either.

Jeff

-- 
RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to
the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal
force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED
under the Internal Security Act of 1950.


Article: 327686 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Fred Jones" <cala.mine@lotion.org>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com> <1134606876.054681.55140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <ef99b$43a0c246$4232bda2$21525@COQUI.NET> <3Z-dne5-MpJIfjzeRVn-tg@comcast.com> <d40e6$43a1e741$4232bd35$3195@COQUI.NET> <eK2dnWRSu9R_cTzenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <875a5$43a1f220$4232bd35$7199@COQUI.NET> <LI2dneoYMKII2D_eRVn-iQ@comcast.com> <lyxof.30967$Mi5.5740@dukeread07>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Message-ID: <g8Nof.432$ug1.89722@monger.newsread.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 05:13:48 GMT

If this is no skin off of, why have you brought this subtle blackmail up?
The truth be told this whole news has been reduced to rubble as to
usefulness for many others, regardless of WHOM is posting or why. I doubt
there are any non-hardcore newbies who realy want to look in and learn
anything, as they see this group as very hostile.

I keep trying to lurk, but some such as you like shoe leather, so I have to
archive a bunch of threats and save them or send them out to Google or abuse
whomever. If I get crappy mail, at least I can figure who's ISP to complain
to myself. Kindly take your own pills Unca, you are playing a dangerous game
yourself.

Besides, I simply don't care anymore and I have other internet options.
Blackmail ME. Just ruin our reputation even more.

There is nothing much to gain from being here anyway

(Note to Google Groups)

Uncle Peter is trying to intimidate Mark Oppat by blackmailing him to
silence. Mark has every right to be there, and Peter Bertini may need to
take the very medication he was always advocating for me and others. Peter's
very gripe is likely ruining an already tarnished reptutation for the
newsgroup as well as cripping the chances of indoctrinating many persons
into our hobby after they see the NG is "hostile".

Continuing down the line he threatens my ISP account with further harassment
toward it's potential closure, and frankly, I am mighty tired of this
garbage, and I HAVEN'T EVEN HAD A SUBSCRIPTION IN AT LEAST THREE DAYS, much
less an open Yahoo! account he can complaint to or about. Lycos won't close
an account directly, so I put it in "vacation" mode with auto-reply until it
expires from non-use on my part, and also closed my webpages which are now
DELETED.

I believe a complaint to Cox Communications would likely be next and a wise
followup. I hope I wouldn't have to, but he's gone off the deep end and
needs to remove foot/close mouth/think before opening right now.

It's been decisively proven that it doesn't matter WHOM they consider a
pain, or that it's not a moderated group, or anything else. This bickering
has been going on with me or without me, for several years. I have lurked
99.5 percent of the last month or so, and I see relatively little left of
use in the newsgroup beside this bickering. I'm pretty much fed up with the
group now and I don't even bookmark it anymore. SOMETHING has to change,
even if I don't think it's up to you so much, nor can you.

I wanted somebody to know.

This message is being copied for the sake of my ISP if needed as well as
other potential parties that could be involved.

Now you are on you own. Back off as I'm pissed off having to monitor this
crap and Mark is an American with many rights set out in the various
amendments to the Constitution. The matter is not nor has it ever been yours
to strangle in an unmoderated group as you have. you have been told to
create some other controllable forum, but cannot or will not, and you have
gripes with most any other you encounter. You ALSO have those rights, but in
NO WAY do you any of you have the right to promote threats and harm to
others.



" Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM> wrote in message
news:lyxof.30967$Mi5.5740@dukeread07...
>
> "Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message
> news:LI2dneoYMKII2D_eRVn-iQ@comcast.com...
> >  > Its now proven they are nowhere near any threat to even coming close
to
> > clutter on this board, and never will be.
> >
> > Mark Oppat
> >
> > ps... how about those of us who post FA or FS get together and start
>
>
> Mark
>
> I've had several emails from folks who noted that they've added you
> to their blocked poster lists. No skin off my butt, but consider that you
> might be just shooting your own future business sales in the foot?
>
> Pete
>
>




Article: 327687 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" <nobody@nowhere.com>
Subject: Re: miracord 40 turntable motor
Message-ID: <g597q1109qfgentrnnh8mn1kj9hmor9qu0@4ax.com>
References: <RdydnWiugIeWYgHeRVn-jA@adelphia.com> <mccluney2-5C2E57.10221012122005@news1.east.earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 05:34:59 +0000

suggestion - don't remove the pulley - disassemble the rest of the
motor, lube lower bearing, lube upper bearing from inside - you can
get it to slip up enough, I suspect, and work it until it's free, then
reassemble.

On Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:28:12 GMT, Gene McCluney
<mccluney2@earthlink.net> wrote:

>In article <RdydnWiugIeWYgHeRVn-jA@adelphia.com>,
> "David" <davewt@adelphia.net> wrote:
>
>> I need to disassemble the motor for this turntable to free up the bearings.
>> I see no obvious way to remove the step pulley from the motor shaft.
>> Any clues?
>> Thanks
>> Dave 
>
>If there is no obvious set-screw, then it is probably a press-fit.  
>Perhaps a small "puller" normally used for plumbing repair can be used.   
>You could press the step-pulley back on in a bench vise that has a large 
>mouth.
>
>Gene McCluney
Bill

www.wbnoble.com

to contact me, do not reply to this message, 
instead correct this address and use it

will iam_  b_   No  ble   at  msn  daught   com


Article: 327688 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "jim menning" <jmenningMAPS@new.rr.com>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com> <1134606876.054681.55140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <ef99b$43a0c246$4232bda2$21525@COQUI.NET> <3Z-dne5-MpJIfjzeRVn-tg@comcast.com> <d40e6$43a1e741$4232bd35$3195@COQUI.NET> <eK2dnWRSu9R_cTzenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <875a5$43a1f220$4232bd35$7199@COQUI.NET> <LI2dneoYMKII2D_eRVn-iQ@comcast.com> <lyxof.30967$Mi5.5740@dukeread07> <g8Nof.432$ug1.89722@monger.newsread.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Message-ID: <4BNof.4285$7S.2643@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 05:44:32 GMT


"Fred Jones" <cala.mine@lotion.org> wrote in message 
news:g8Nof.432$ug1.89722@monger.newsread.com...
>

Damn troll is morphing again.  Go away and stay away Dinius.

jim menning 




Article: 327689 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:33:31 -0700
Message-ID: <1559-43A3A32B-601@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net>
References: <g8Nof.432$ug1.89722@monger.newsread.com>

82



Article: 327690 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:52:10 -0400
From: Bill <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com> <1134606876.054681.55140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <ef99b$43a0c246$4232bda2$21525@COQUI.NET> <3Z-dne5-MpJIfjzeRVn-tg@comcast.com> <d40e6$43a1e741$4232bd35$3195@COQUI.NET> <eK2dnWRSu9R_cTzenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <875a5$43a1f220$4232bd35$7199@COQUI.NET> <LI2dneoYMKII2D_eRVn-iQ@comcast.com> <lyxof.30967$Mi5.5740@dukeread07> <g8Nof.432$ug1.89722@monger.newsread.com>
Message-ID: <38027$43a3a78e$4232bd7a$13906@COQUI.NET>

Fred Jones wrote:

> If this is no skin off of, why have you brought this subtle blackmail up?
> The truth be told this whole news has been reduced to rubble

Go fuck yourself, Dinius.  Anybody who can read headers can see who you 
are with your fake name.  Over the past couple of years you have done 
more to destroy this group than anyone.  The fact that I subsidize your 
welfare existence as a taxpayer adds insult to injury.

Ya wanna email me *again* whining about how much your meds cost?  Ya 
wanna run up your phone bill at taxpayer subsidized expense to make 
crank and harrassing phone calls to newsgroup readers all over the country?

Killfiles are a useful tool to avoid aggravations to the reader.  If you 
crawl out of mine after all the shit you have created then I can be a 
very nasty SOB and I will continue to be until you just go away.

Yep, Mary at your ISP mary@hitindustries.com will hear it again and 
again that your $16.95 of MY tax money is not worth their trouble to 
keep you as a subscriber.  So sue me fatboy.

-ex


Article: 327691 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: c.antiques.radio+phono
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 22:47:52 -0700
Message-ID: <1559-43A3A688-613@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net>
References: <T5Nof.5014$ka.846@tornado.socal.rr.com>

Use this one

news:alt.radio-shack



Article: 327692 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Radio Shack today
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 23:03:31 -0700
Message-ID: <1559-43A3AA33-618@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net>

I went into our ever growing mall today to buy some good shoes and
walked by Radio Shack . On the way out iwent in for a look . The hell
phone section was very small . I saw alot of stereo stuff and several
toys .
They had pull out drawers with lots of components . I was suprized to
still see new  , 50 , 100 and 750 in one project kits like the old days
 They were mostly plastic but still had those springs you pinch the
wires into .
I saw a display of a new era of kits .. Robotics .. they were 100 bucks
!

I also noticed a new tiny Grundig brand pocket multiband radio with
analog slide rule tuning . very pretty looking and super small style for
29$  i was tempted but afraid it was a poor preformer at best ?
On another shelf i saw pocket size FM only digital tuning radio KIT
for15$ . I would have got one for kix but it had no speaker in it (
earphone only ) yuk :-)



Article: 327693 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:20:05 -0400
From: Bill <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com> <1134606876.054681.55140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <ef99b$43a0c246$4232bda2$21525@COQUI.NET> <3Z-dne5-MpJIfjzeRVn-tg@comcast.com> <d40e6$43a1e741$4232bd35$3195@COQUI.NET> <eK2dnWRSu9R_cTzenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <875a5$43a1f220$4232bd35$7199@COQUI.NET> <LI2dneoYMKII2D_eRVn-iQ@comcast.com> <lyxof.30967$Mi5.5740@dukeread07> <g8Nof.432$ug1.89722@monger.newsread.com> <38027$43a3a78e$4232bd7a$13906@COQUI.NET>
Message-ID: <2db0c$43a3ae19$4232bd7a$14678@COQUI.NET>

Bill wrote:

> Fred Jones wrote:
> 

> 
> Yep, Mary at your ISP mary@hitindustries.com will hear it again and 
> again that your $16.95 of MY tax money is not worth their trouble to 
> keep you as a subscriber.  So sue me fatboy.
> 
> -ex

My latest complaint to your ISP...heaven forbid I find out how to 
contact your 'social worker' that keeps you ineffectually drugged.

At 03:31 PM 7/6/2005, you wrote:
We are not sure what to do here.
....

Dinius is at it again.  More fake posting names.  You have a nut loose 
in your community and he's going to end up in a shooting rampage or 
something.  You can play possum for your monthly tariff but this guy is 
bad news.  He's making phone call threats to users all over the US.

This is why 'real' ISPs have Terms of Service agreements...so they can 
deny service to wackos like Steven Dinius.  By having no TOS you become 
implicant in whatever he does....being in a small place like Payette 
doesn't mean you are immune to these problems.

My suggestion....implement some TOS provisions and use them to get rid 
of this guy. Sure he can go to another ISP and if he runs afoul there 
thats their problem and we'll go after that source.  Charges are pending 
against him in the State of Florida for harrassing phone calls to a 
church related to his internet postings.  If I were you I would want to 
distance myself from his condition.

When the "stuff" finally hits the fan, your reluctance to do so will be 
a part of my testimony to get this nut convicted.

I'm posting this publicly so that it remains on record.

-Bill M


Article: 327694 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:32:02 -0400
From: Bill <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: Radio Shack today
References: <1559-43A3AA33-618@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net>
Message-ID: <4941e$43a3b0e6$4232bd7a$15037@COQUI.NET>

Ken G. wrote:


> 
> I also noticed a new tiny Grundig brand pocket multiband radio with
> analog slide rule tuning . very pretty looking and super small style for
> 29$  i was tempted but afraid it was a poor preformer at best ?


Most of that 29$ stuff is poor-performing and the Grundig name has been 
hawked off to cheap chinese stuff so it no longer implies "old-world" 
quality.  On the other hand, such a radio will run rings around old 
antique radios.  Just don't expect dial calibration and immunity from 
overload like a well tuned $29 Airline radio.

But you can't carry that old Airline around the house and yard or to the 
beach forever with two AA batteries, can ya?

-Bill


Article: 327695 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <43A3C534.ED1F2F2B@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: c.antiques.radio+phono
References: <B9Hof.31096$Mi5.25540@dukeread07>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:58:54 GMT

Uncle Peter wrote:
> 
> If any of you guys can access this new newsgroup, let's move over there
> for spam free restoration discussions.   Without the carnival barkers....
> 
> c.antiques.radio+phono
> 
> Uncle Pete


   Was this group set up with the proper control message? If not, most
of the large news servers won't add it.  Also, what news server are you
using to access it?

-- 
Been there, Done that, I've got my DD214 to prove it.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 327696 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Benjamaniac" <benjamaniac@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: American Bosch 480 Question
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 05:08:48 -0700
Message-ID: <do0v4g$23dj$1@news3.infoave.net>
References: <dnv8rt$153s$1@news3.infoave.net> <1eydnWGMnp_EID7eRVn-jQ@comcast.com>


"Tom Adkins" <newton5@remove.comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:1eydnWGMnp_EID7eRVn-jQ@comcast.com...
> Benjamaniac wrote:
>>     I'm working on an American Bosch 480 right now. Of course I'll be 
>> doing the recap thing..etc.., but the question I have is this: On the 
>> schematic it shows an 83V tube as the rectifer, but it has an 80 
>> installed in itright now...that's the way I got it. At first I didn't 
>> think too much about it, assuming that the 80 was a suitable sub for the 
>> 83V. Then, out of curiosity, I looked in my tube sub guide and it doesn't 
>> show this as a substitute. I looked in my RCA manuals...same result. 
>> Looked on a few web sites...same result. Funny thing is...the radio DOES 
>> work with the 80 installed, but it sounds like hell.( which I first 
>> assumed to be the result of needing recapped..etc..) ARE the 83V and the 
>> 80 interchangable ?? Or could this be a contributing factor to it 
>> sounding so bad ?? Could any harm have resulted from using the 80 in the 
>> set ?? Hmmm...just wondering as I ordered an 83V for it.
>>                  Ben
>
>  I once bought a Silvertone console that was missing it's rectifier. I 
> serviced it (cleaned, recapped, etc)and installed an 80, which seemed to 
> be correct. The output was distorted. I pulled my hair out over it until I 
> noticed an 83V on the tube layout. Installed the correct rectifier and it 
> sounded great.


       Bingo...that was the same problem here. I had ordered another 83V 
because I didn't think I had one, but after digging through the multitude of 
tubes I hadn't inventoried yet...I found one. Intalled it and now it it 
sounds 1000% better even before the recap job. This thing will be great 
radio after I'm done with the rest...I can tell it already. A few guys 
posted on here that the 80 should work in a pinch even though it wasn't 
listed as a suitable sub, but there must be some difference somewhere.
                 Ben 




Article: 327697 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jeramy Ross <jeramy@kb5whv.com>
Subject: Thank you
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0512170106000.4896@oak>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:15:51 GMT

To all on the list,

    I've been a long-time lurker here on the list, and have gained many 
valuable nuggets of knowledge from posts here.  In sorting through all of 
the flames, I've rarely noticed a thanks for the knowledge shared here. 
So here goes..

Thank you all!

    I'm 26, so my interest in radios that glow is found to be odd by many 
of my elders.  I have no nostalgic connection to them since they were 
already a thing of the past by the time I was old enough to start 
tinkering.  My connection comes from my first radios were freebies dug out 
of relative's barns, attics, etc. and all were tube type.  In getting 
those to run, I formed an instant bond to all things tube.  The point of 
all of this rambling is to maybe remind you all that you are helping at 
least one "youngin" to gain knowlege and cut his teeth in this great 
hobby.  I really do appreciate all you share (even the flames from time to 
time... when taken with humor, they can inspire quite a few chuckles).

Best wishes and happy holidays to all,
Jeramy


Article: 327698 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM>
References: <B9Hof.31096$Mi5.25540@dukeread07> <43A3C534.ED1F2F2B@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: c.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <7PTof.31158$Mi5.2561@dukeread07>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:48:43 -0500


"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message
news:43A3C534.ED1F2F2B@earthlink.net...
> Uncle Peter wrote:
> > >    Was this group set up with the proper control message? If not, most
> of the large news servers won't add it.  Also, what news server are you
> using to access it?
>
> --
> Been there, Done that, I've got my DD214 to prove it.
>
> Michael A. Terrell
> Central Florida

Michael

COX carries it.  I didn't set it up by the way..

Pete




Article: 327699 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM>
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com> <1134606876.054681.55140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <ef99b$43a0c246$4232bda2$21525@COQUI.NET> <3Z-dne5-MpJIfjzeRVn-tg@comcast.com> <d40e6$43a1e741$4232bd35$3195@COQUI.NET> <eK2dnWRSu9R_cTzenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <875a5$43a1f220$4232bd35$7199@COQUI.NET> <LI2dneoYMKII2D_eRVn-iQ@comcast.com> <lyxof.30967$Mi5.5740@dukeread07> <g8Nof.432$ug1.89722@monger.newsread.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
Message-ID: <eFUof.31159$Mi5.11654@dukeread07>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:46:26 -0500


"Fred Jones" <cala.mine@lotion.org> wrote in message
news:g8Nof.432$ug1.89722@monger.newsread.com...
> If this is no skin off of, why have you brought this subtle blackmail up?
> The truth be told this whole news has been reduced to rubble as to
>

For the RECORD; despite the lunatic rantings of Dinius.

I do not have Mark killfiled. I like Mark.

Mark will do extremely well when his website is finished, I don't think
he realizes the value of having one.

What I commented on was indeed what others had relayed to me in
private emails.  If anyone construed what I said as a "threat":
real, imagined, implied, or otherwise, has some rather serious
mental issues that need immediate intervention.

Pete




Article: 327700 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: John Bachman <johnREMOVE@anatek.REMOVEmv.com>
Subject: Is this Zenith chairside worth it?
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:59:31 -0500
Message-ID: <h968q1d2k0inqj97dlsondlpmvcgbnc2ne@4ax.com>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6589505139&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1#ebayphotohosting

If link is too long and wraps around use the item number 65895139.

I am looking for a chairside and this one is a bit pricey for me,
especially considering the $85 shipping, which is reasonable but
increases my cost.

What do you experts think of it?  Looks great to me.

TIA

John



Article: 327701 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM>
References: <h968q1d2k0inqj97dlsondlpmvcgbnc2ne@4ax.com>
Subject: Re: Is this Zenith chairside worth it?
Message-ID: <TWUof.31161$Mi5.30727@dukeread07>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 09:05:15 -0500


"John Bachman" <johnREMOVE@anatek.REMOVEmv.com> wrote in message
news:h968q1d2k0inqj97dlsondlpmvcgbnc2ne@4ax.com...
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6589505139&rd=1&sspagenam
e=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1#ebayphotohosting
>
> If link is too long and wraps around use the item number 65895139.
>
> I am looking for a chairside and this one is a bit pricey for me,
> especially considering the $85 shipping, which is reasonable but
> increases my cost.
>
> What do you experts think of it?  Looks great to me.
>
> TIA
>
> John
>

You want an OPINION?  I don't care for chairsides, but if I was going to
own one--that would be it.  I like the styling, and it's being a Zenith
shutterdial doesn't hurt either. It looks to be in nice condition. The price
seems reasonable.  A very nice looking set--for my taste anyways...

Pete




Article: 327702 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: David Stinson <arc5MUNGitymungmung@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: eBay postings allowed in this group???
References: <1134495461.547308.102880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <Fs6dnUVOUYFlJgLeRVn-pw@giganews.com> <1134606876.054681.55140@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <ef99b$43a0c246$4232bda2$21525@COQUI.NET> <3Z-dne5-MpJIfjzeRVn-tg@comcast.com> <d40e6$43a1e741$4232bd35$3195@COQUI.NET> <eK2dnWRSu9R_cTzenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <875a5$43a1f220$4232bd35$7199@COQUI.NET> <LI2dneoYMKII2D_eRVn-iQ@comcast.com> <lyxof.30967$Mi5.5740@dukeread07> <g8Nof.432$ug1.89722@monger.newsread.com> <38027$43a3a78e$4232bd7a$13906@COQUI.NET>
Message-ID: <QlVof.3754$n1.1282@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 14:34:24 GMT

Bill wrote:

> Fred Jones wrote:
> 
>> If this is no skin off of, why have you brought this subtle blackmail up?
>> The truth be told this whole news has been reduced to rubble
> 
> 
> Go fuck yourself, Dinius.  Anybody who can read headers can see who you 
> are with your fake name....

You're right to be irritated, Bill, but like the FA bitchers,
he only has power to "destroy" the group if we give it to him.
No one can really "destroy" any news group.
People can decide to leave, but that is *their* responsibility.
We live with turkeys every day without saying our existance
is "ruined" or "destroyed."  We stay around because the
good, kind and helpful people outnumber the turkeys.
So stick around.
But go ahead and give the Skippys a knock or two;
it relieves the tensions ;-).

73 Dave S.


Article: 327703 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "xrongor" <hacky@smackeycrackey.com>
Subject: Re: Is this Zenith chairside worth it?
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:37:42 -0700
Message-ID: <do17rm$27a0$1@news3.infoave.net>
References: <h968q1d2k0inqj97dlsondlpmvcgbnc2ne@4ax.com>

next time click bid history, then back to item.  you will get a short link. 
there are other ways to do it also, but this one is easy.

randy 




Article: 327704 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Pete_O" <stateasylum@private>
Subject: Re-tubing an Atwater Kent 35 with 26's
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 10:04:31 +0100
Message-ID: <4371ab39da6cdaade8a3d1e5c0fee031@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>

Apart from the filament voltage difference, has anyone tried to run an
Atwater Kent 35 using  type 26 triodes?  A series filament resistor to the
audio tubes and detector bias look like the only possible component
changes.  I'm awash in 26's and running out of 01-A's; if this were a
valuable radio I wouldn't be experimenting. I just can't leave things
alone either.  -Pete O.



Article: 327705 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Radio Shack today
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:37:06 -0700
Message-ID: <27742-43A430A2-673@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1134830528.557903.270580@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>

Hmm i didnt notice anything about it having a speaker . Oh well i wanted
to solder the parts in , takes care of that .

I had one of those pocket size multiband radios once and it didnt work
anywhere near any old tubed SW radio . It would hardly get a station
through the feedback .

As for a short range transmitter . Find a `Wild Planet Radio DJ`  Not
the best but pretty good for under 20$ . Its not a kit .



Article: 327706 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Is this Zenith chairside worth it?
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 08:55:20 -0700
Message-ID: <27742-43A434E8-679@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net>
References: <TWUof.31161$Mi5.30727@dukeread07>

My opinion ..I like it because its an old radio . Price .. No . I dont
care much for the glass slider or a dial down in that far or the grille
design. Isnt there a Zenith CH.S with a half round cabinet and dials
right on top ? those catch my eye . 

  



Article: 327707 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:43:58 -0400
From: Bill <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: Is this Zenith chairside worth it?
References: <TWUof.31161$Mi5.30727@dukeread07> <27742-43A434E8-679@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net>
Message-ID: <284c2$43a44054$4232bd95$11671@COQUI.NET>

Ken G. wrote:
> 
> Isnt there a Zenith CH.S with a half round cabinet and dials
> right on top ? those catch my eye .

Yep, I have one of those and its one of my favorites and a keeper.  Its 
a model 10S4?? something or other.

-Bill


From adouglasatgis.net Sat Dec 17 22:55:32 EST 2005
Article: 327708 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Alan Douglas <adouglasatgis.net>
Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: American Bosch 480 Question
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:24:50 -0500
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Hi,

>there must be some difference somewhere.

   The 83V had a low voltage drop, to simulate the characteristics of
a mercury-vapor rectifier but without the disadvantages (RF noise,
internal arcing, slow starting in cold weather).  It had close
cathode-to-plate spacing and was more expensive to make, so was only
used where its low voltage drop was really needed.

Alan


Article: 327709 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM>
References: <B9Hof.31096$Mi5.25540@dukeread07> <11q7630nh0e554a@news.supernews.com> <T5Nof.5014$ka.846@tornado.socal.rr.com> <_wXof.3811$n1.2309@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: c.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <ibYof.31204$Mi5.23759@dukeread07>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:47:33 -0500


"Gary Tayman" <gtayman@gate.net> wrote in message
news:_wXof.3811$n1.2309@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Hey --
>
> I've got an idea!
>
> I'm on Earthlink, and it's not on my server either.  But I don't care, and
I
> don't believe anything's safe from spammers.  Let's everyone say we're
> jumping over there, then we'll be really quiet for a few days.  Then maybe
> we can keep this newsgroup clean while the spammers are busy over there!
>
>

I wonder who started it, and why, so far, it only shows on COX?  I can
subscribe to it, post to it, and read it... So it exists in some form or
fashion. I guess COX's newservers are pretty inclusive of what's
out there.

Pete




Article: 327710 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <43A450B9.4817313A@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: c.antiques.radio+phono
References: <B9Hof.31096$Mi5.25540@dukeread07> <11q7630nh0e554a@news.supernews.com> <T5Nof.5014$ka.846@tornado.socal.rr.com> <_wXof.3811$n1.2309@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:54:15 GMT

Gary Tayman wrote:
> 
> Hey --
> 
> I've got an idea!
> 
> I'm on Earthlink, and it's not on my server either.  But I don't care, and I
> don't believe anything's safe from spammers.  Let's everyone say we're
> jumping over there, then we'll be really quiet for a few days.  Then maybe
> we can keep this newsgroup clean while the spammers are busy over there!


   Good luck getting it added to Earthlink. They aren't adding any new
newsgroups at this time.  If you want to try, post a request on
news:earthlink.support.usenet

-- 
Been there, Done that, I've got my DD214 to prove it.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 327711 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Jon" <jon@NOscapturaSPAM.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0512170106000.4896@oak>
Subject: Re: Thank you
Message-ID: <thYof.33329$XJ5.17112@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:54:33 GMT


"Jeramy Ross" <jeramy@kb5whv.com> wrote in message 
news:Pine.LNX.4.64.0512170106000.4896@oak...
> To all on the list,
>
>    I've been a long-time lurker here on the list, and have gained many 
> valuable nuggets of knowledge from posts here.  In sorting through all of 
> the flames, I've rarely noticed a thanks for the knowledge shared here. So 
> here goes..
>
> Thank you all!
>
>    I'm 26, so my interest in radios that glow is found to be odd by many 
> of my elders.  I have no nostalgic connection to them since they were 
> already a thing of the past by the time I was old enough to start 
> tinkering.  My connection comes from my first radios were freebies dug out 
> of relative's barns, attics, etc. and all were tube type.  In getting 
> those to run, I formed an instant bond to all things tube.  The point of 
> all of this rambling is to maybe remind you all that you are helping at 
> least one "youngin" to gain knowlege and cut his teeth in this great 
> hobby.  I really do appreciate all you share (even the flames from time to 
> time... when taken with humor, they can inspire quite a few chuckles).
>
> Best wishes and happy holidays to all,
> Jeramy

I was about your age when I repaired my first tube radio, a Zenith 8S463 as 
a gift for my General Manager. I'm 31 now, and am already running out of 
space for my radios, vintage test gear and spare parts. I got hooked, and 
the workbench hasn't been bare since.

-- 
Jon Scaptura
Endicott, NY

See my antique radios here:
http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery/Antique_radios
and the workbench webcam:
http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam





Article: 327712 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM>
References: <4371ab39da6cdaade8a3d1e5c0fee031@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <D8qdnYzK7K__zzneRVn-ow@qx.net>
Subject: Re: Re-tubing an Atwater Kent 35 with 26's
Message-ID: <2XYof.31212$Mi5.2781@dukeread07>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 13:38:30 -0500


"Theresa McCarty" <spikewilliams@qx.net> wrote in message
news:D8qdnYzK7K__zzneRVn-ow@qx.net...
>  >     But, then I considered the B+ potential tubes need. My 6V farmer
uses a
> vibrator but it's GOTTA have a tranny in there somewhere.
>     And, just now I realize 5 amps is a LOT... and with 120V off the line
> that's 600 [hundred] watts to dissapate!
>

Dude, it don't work that way...

It draws 5 amps at 6 volts, i.e. 30 watts of power.

30 watts of energy at 120 volts is  only 1/4 amp!

Think of it this way:  you can "transform" impedances, voltage
and current, but power is a constant.

If you use a transformer based power supply, you'll be fine.
30 watts in, 30 watts out..

If you use a dropping resistor system, you will have 570 watts
heating the resistor, however.


Pete

p.s. every wonder why the eBay hawkers  never help with
these sort of queries? I do.

Pete




Article: 327713 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Robert Mozeleski" <robert.mozeleski@verizon.net>
References: <4371ab39da6cdaade8a3d1e5c0fee031@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <D8qdnYzK7K__zzneRVn-ow@qx.net> <2XYof.31212$Mi5.2781@dukeread07>
Subject: Re: Re-tubing an Atwater Kent 35 with 26's
Message-ID: <87Zof.185$Fo1.27@trndny07>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:51:48 GMT

100% efficient huh? Tells us how much you know. You like stirring the pot. Wonder why.

" Uncle Peter" radioconnection@cox.net wrote in message > If you use a transformer based power supply, you'll be 
fine.
> 30 watts in, 30 watts out..
> p.s. every wonder why the eBay hawkers  never help with
> these sort of queries? I do.
>
> Pete
>
> 




Article: 327714 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Paul Dietenberger" <pdieten@NyOaShPoAoM.com>
References: <1559-43A3AA33-618@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net> <1134830528.557903.270580@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Radio Shack today
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 12:54:55 -0600
Message-ID: <43a45bd4$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net>

"RadioGary" <n9vu@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1134830528.557903.270580@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
> With those post Science Fair kits they have to offer, do they have a
> short range AM transmitter by chance?   Don't think so.

No, but I bet there's a store somewhere within driving (or parking, 
considering your freeways) distance of you that does. We have a 
ham-radio-supply shop here in town called Amateur Electronic Supply. 
Shortwave radios, CB, transceivers, training kits for ham licenses, dozens 
and dozens of antennas (they also sell the Terk AM Advantage for $50), 
soldering stations (I almost bought a WTCPT for $119 when I was last there) 
etc. They had a few Vectronics kits, including the AM transmitter for $30.

If we have one up here in podunk Milwaukee, I'm sure you do too. Check the 
YP.

paul 




Article: 327715 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Chris F." <zappymanREMOVETHIS@hotmail.com>
References: <Aonof.140182$Ph4.4282772@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca> <APWdnZ2XreCyjT7eRVn-vQ@rogers.com>
Subject: Re: This guy has a few tubes to sell.....
Message-ID: <ubZof.141288$Ph4.4318939@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:56:26 GMT


"Engineer" <fakeaddress@nowhere.net> wrote in message > 1. What is the
typical reject rate for a box of unknown tubes?
> 2. What's a fair price per tube for a largish (say, 100 to 300) random

  I should point out, to those of you who haven't yet discovered this, that
some NOS tubes can sometimes turn out to be bad, even if the boxes are never
opened. How? Cold storage; if they get cold enough, some tubes will crack
and lose the vacuum. I once stored about 1500 tubes in sub-zero temps for a
winter, and lost probably close to 1% of them this way. Fortunately they
were of no great value, unlike the lesson which I learned which has probably
saved me much grief over the years.
  If you ever open a NOS tube and find a white getter spot, and no signs of
damage to the tube or box, this is probably what has happened. The crack
usually occurs at the base where it is not easy to see.




Article: 327716 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Pete_O" <stateasylum@private>
Subject: Re: Re-tubing an Atwater Kent 35 with 26's
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 14:19:01 +0100
Message-ID: <001460e38a24ea2b9dbfcf22a24b9ad7@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>
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> But, philo's cogent remarks make my small brain start wondering.
>     Small brain sez: 1.5V times 1 amp = 1.5 watts  and 5 amps times0.25V
> =1.25 watts... and ain't "watts" is what it's all about (power to burn >
[destroy] a filament)?  ( I've given up trying to "control amps w/o >
affecting volts" ...they done goes together, apparently.)>  But, then I
considered the B+ potential tubes need. And, just now I realize 5 amps is
a LOT... and with 120V off the line > that's 600 hundred] watts to
dissapate!  > Gawd! Amps are what kills ya! I dunno if I want to mess with
01As. Do ya

Gees- I should have been dead years ago!!  Filament current is determined
my it's resistance and supply voltage- not the  supply ampacity.  And the
resistance of my body is too high to allow any dangerous current at these
low voltages to do any harm.
 Apart from that I seems that the only problem is the 6+ amp 1.5 volt
supply that's needed. I thought that the ARBEIII could handle it- but in
checking the current specs I think I'll have to buy some more 01-A's.  Tnx
all for opinions.- Pete O.





Article: 327717 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:32:37 -0400
From: Bill <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: Re-tubing an Atwater Kent 35 with 26's
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Message-ID: <931da$43a475ea$4232bd95$32287@COQUI.NET>

Jim Strickland wrote:

> Pete_O wrote:
> 
>>Apart from the filament voltage difference, has anyone tried to run an
>>Atwater Kent 35 using  type 26 triodes?  A series filament resistor to the
>>audio tubes and detector bias look like the only possible component
>>changes.  I'm awash in 26's and running out of 01-A's; if this were a
>>valuable radio I wouldn't be experimenting. I just can't leave things
>>alone either.  -Pete O.
> 
> 
> I'd be tempted to do this with 30s instead.  Same filament voltage
> (though they are directly heated) and similar characteristics (if
> memory serves).  
> 
> -Jim
> 

30s are great.  They're actually 2 volt tubes but you can run them with 
a pair of flashlight batteries and a diode in series.  Thats 2.3v when 
the batteries are fresh but thats not a problem.  If it makes ya anxious 
just use weak batteries :)

What is a problem is if the set has rheostats because the lower current 
draw (60 ma vs 250 ma) isn't going to cause much of a voltage drop in 
the rheostat.

Prices for 30s are all over the block these days.  Some of the dealers 
are asking $8-10 each...but you can still find them on ebay for a 
fraction of that.

-Bill


Article: 327718 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM>
References: <4371ab39da6cdaade8a3d1e5c0fee031@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <D8qdnYzK7K__zzneRVn-ow@qx.net> <2XYof.31212$Mi5.2781@dukeread07> <87Zof.185$Fo1.27@trndny07>
Subject: Re: Re-tubing an Atwater Kent 35 with 26's
Message-ID: <GC_of.31219$Mi5.1049@dukeread07>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:33:17 -0500


"Robert Mozeleski" <robert.mozeleski@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:87Zof.185$Fo1.27@trndny07...
> 100% efficient huh? Tells us how much you know. You like stirring the pot.
Wonder why.
>

At this stage of the discussion, the efficiency of the transformer, or
whatever means is used, is a moot point for the sake of simplicity.

Robert, don't be an ass.  I know it's been genetically inbred into
your genes, but try harder...  A lot harder.  Work on your social
skills, you can overcome your handicaps handicaps.

Try offering some useful advice when others are asking for advice.
It could be your New Year's resolution!

Take care

Pete




Article: 327719 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "jim menning" <jmenningMAPS@new.rr.com>
References: <TWUof.31161$Mi5.30727@dukeread07> <27742-43A434E8-679@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: Is this Zenith chairside worth it?
Message-ID: <uK_of.4519$7S.2987@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:42:02 GMT


"Ken G." <goodguyy@webtv.net> wrote in message 
news:27742-43A434E8-679@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net...
> My opinion ..I like it because its an old radio . Price .. No . I dont
> care much for the glass slider or a dial down in that far or the grille
> design. Isnt there a Zenith CH.S with a half round cabinet and dials
> right on top ? those catch my eye .
>
>
>

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=zenith+chairside

jim menning 




Article: 327720 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Buck Frobisher" <farside114@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: c.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <SG_of.4229$El.432066@news20.bellglobal.com>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:38:07 -0500


" Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM> wrote in message 
news:ibYof.31204$Mi5.23759@dukeread07...
> I wonder who started it, and why, so far, it only shows on COX?  I can
> subscribe to it, post to it, and read it... So it exists in some form or
> fashion. I guess COX's newservers are pretty inclusive of what's
> out there.
>
> Pete

Peter, I checked and Supernews and Sympatico have ANY groups starting with 
"c."  Just guessing, could it be a Cox only NG? 




Article: 327721 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM>
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Subject: Re: c.antiques.radio+phono
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Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 15:57:47 -0500


"Buck Frobisher" <farside114@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:SG_of.4229$El.432066@news20.bellglobal.com...
>
> " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM> wrote in message
> news:ibYof.31204$Mi5.23759@dukeread07...
> > I wonder who started it, and why, so far, it only shows on COX?  I can
> > subscribe to it, post to it, and read it... So it exists in some form or
> > fashion. I guess COX's newservers are pretty inclusive of what's
> > out there.
> >
> > Pete
>
> Peter, I checked and Supernews and Sympatico have ANY groups starting with
> "c."  Just guessing, could it be a Cox only NG?
>
>

Must be a COX newserver oddity. They also list a c.radio.amateur.misc
newsgroup. I suspect it will just dissappear one day.

Pete




Article: 327722 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Ken Scharf <wa2mzeNOTTHIS@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Re-tubing an Atwater Kent 35 with 26's
References: <4371ab39da6cdaade8a3d1e5c0fee031@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>
Message-ID: <ZB%of.461$RZ6.123@bignews7.bellsouth.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:43:48 -0500

Pete_O wrote:
> Apart from the filament voltage difference, has anyone tried to run an
> Atwater Kent 35 using  type 26 triodes?  A series filament resistor to the
> audio tubes and detector bias look like the only possible component
> changes.  I'm awash in 26's and running out of 01-A's; if this were a
> valuable radio I wouldn't be experimenting. I just can't leave things
> alone either.  -Pete O.
> 
As you probably know, the 26 is actually an AC filament tube.
You could use them in the rf stages, and in the first audio stage
but NOT the detector or last af stage.  You'd have to replace the
detector tube with a type 27, requiring a change of socket.

If you wanted to do this, rewire the filaments so the rf and
1st af stages run off the same supply.  Get an old 2.5vct filament
transformer rated at 5 amps to power the 26's, and put a 1 ohm 5 watt
resistor in series with the connection to each tube to drop the
extra volt.  Power the 27 without the resistor.  I guess at this
point I would replace the output tube with a type 45 since it
will run nice on 2.5v as well.

Quite a bit of rework to convert a DC set to AC filament operation.


From adouglasatgis.net Sat Dec 17 22:55:35 EST 2005
Article: 327723 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Alan Douglas <adouglasatgis.net>
Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Re-tubing an Atwater Kent 35 with 26's
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 16:53:00 -0500
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Hi,
  You can run it with 26s in several ways, but they all require
rewiring of one sort or another.  The basic problem is the filament
rheostat and the resistor built into the 35, which will burn up if you
try putting even an ampere through them.

   The RF and output tubes could be run from AC, or all the tubes
could be wired in series and run on DC. But the bias circuitry would
all need to be changed.  You'd end up with something like the model 36
for AC filaments.

   You could run all the 26s in parallel if you ran a new feed wire
in, bypassing the front-panel rheostat.  But you'd need a DC supply of
1.5V at 6.3A (actually it would need to be more than 1.5V, to allow
for drop in the supply cable).

   All in all, it's simpler to find some 01As.

Alan


Article: 327724 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM>
References: <TWUof.31161$Mi5.30727@dukeread07> <27742-43A434E8-679@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> <uK_of.4519$7S.2987@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <os-dndT1kYypDznenZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
Subject: Re: Is this Zenith chairside worth it?
Message-ID: <Fs0pf.31240$Mi5.4221@dukeread07>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:39:07 -0500


"Phil Nelson" <philnelson@nospam.xyz> wrote in message
news:os-dndT1kYypDznenZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
> >> design. Isnt there a Zenith CH.S with a half round cabinet and dials
> >> right on top ? those catch my eye .
> >
> >
http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?from=R40&satitle=zenith+chairside
>
> Yeah, the half round cabinet is definitely more attractive.
>
> Phil Nelson
>

My eye gravitates to the 1938 shutterdial.  The later 1940s models don't
quite catch my eye...  Personal choice.

Peter




Article: 327725 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Pete_O" <stateasylum@private>
Subject: Re: Re-tubing an Atwater Kent 35 with 26's
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 17:45:55 +0100
Message-ID: <7e60a1d1b2591ec5fdf4496ac6a8626b@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>
References: <4371ab39da6cdaade8a3d1e5c0fee031@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <ZB%of.461$RZ6.123@bignews7.bellsouth.net>

If you wanted to do this, rewire the filaments so the rf and 1st af stages
run off the same supply.  Get an old 2.5vct filament transformer rated at
5 amps to power the 26's, and put a 1 ohm 5 watt resistor in series with
the connection to each tube to drop the extra volt.  Power the 27 without
the resistor.  I guess at this point I would replace the output tube with
a type 45 since it will run nice on 2.5v as well.

***Since it's a junk chassis, I've rewired it into two series strings and
added 1 ohm in series with the A supply leads.  This gives me a filament
draw of just over 2 amps with a 6.3v supply. So far it works with 6 26's;
tonight I'll put 135 volts B+ to it. Using 45's for audio wouldn't work
with this filament config and I don't think they like 135 volts. 

This isn't a serious project, just a way to use up an abundance of 26's in
a radio of no great value; some of my Philco's have UHF acorn detectors
since I've got so many excess 9005 tubes (Boonton Radio leftovers)!  Do I
smell something burning?  It must be the soldering iron.   -Pete O.



Article: 327726 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM>
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Subject: Re: Re-tubing an Atwater Kent 35 with 26's
Message-ID: <Vu0pf.31241$Mi5.14356@dukeread07>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:41:31 -0500


"Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message
news:5YydnW3XfNdqDznenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@comcast.com...
> "Yeah, trade that old obsolete battery set in on a new AK38 or 40!
> Yesseree Bob,  come on down now, we gotcha covered here....!"   I imagine
> that speil from the old days...  BTW, did anyone here ever see the old
> photos from about 1933 showing a huge pile of battery radios in the
> street...  they were gonna burn them as a publicity stunt in NYC on radio
> row I think.  By that time the cost of the batteries was so much,  those
old
> sets were worthless when you could buy a new compact radio for under $20.
> The pix has turned up in ARC, years ago, and maybe the AWA OTB ran it
too...
>
> Mark Oppat
>
>

I think that was an AK promotion.

I also remember a WWII scrap drive which showed numerous 1930
tombstone and cathederals piled for their scrap value.

Pete




Article: 327727 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Robert Mozeleski" <robert.mozeleski@verizon.net>
References: <4371ab39da6cdaade8a3d1e5c0fee031@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <D8qdnYzK7K__zzneRVn-ow@qx.net> <2XYof.31212$Mi5.2781@dukeread07> <87Zof.185$Fo1.27@trndny07> <GC_of.31219$Mi5.1049@dukeread07>
Subject: Re: Re-tubing an Atwater Kent 35 with 26's
Message-ID: <Qy0pf.338$Fo1.55@trndny07>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:46:08 GMT

Pete, you come back with a wise ass, remark. What do you expect? If you couldn't tell the original poster had a few 
terms such as wattage and amps mixed up, you should learn how to read.
What does imbred and genes have to do with anything? Come on now. You can't have any valid arguments so you have to 
go real low and say somebody is imbred. Guess you are familiar with that term this time of the year. Next thing you 
know you will be saying i forgot to take my meds, oh, you just did that to someone else on another group. Your 
colors are showing. Change the subject as you usually do. Why don't you go to that c.antiques radio group as you 
promised?
>"Work on your social skills, >you can overcome your >handicaps handicaps."

Hey, you must studder huh?

> Try offering some useful >advice when others are >asking for advice.
> It could be your New
> Year's resolution!
I do offer good advice. Now you on the other hand continue to stir things up, get people all relied. Sounds like 
you get your rocks off on this huh? Did you consider typing out ohms law for the poster? No. You gave some answer, 
then throw in some eBay opinion which means nothing coming from your mouth. I'm sure if the poster was a little 
more clear, or explained his problem again, there would have been a few more replys.
Once again you are saying if someone doesn't contribute to the group they are nobody. Many of us read this daily 
and when we see a simple post or question get dragged out to 100 posts long, we don't even bother readingit. We 
just look at the names. As for those who must answer almost every post, i guess they are know-it-alls. They must be 
the ones who own the group!

" Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM> wrote in message news:GC_of.31219$Mi5.1049@dukeread07...
>
> "Robert Mozeleski" <robert.mozeleski@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:87Zof.185$Fo1.27@trndny07...
>> 100% efficient huh? Tells us how much you know. You like stirring the pot.
> Wonder why.
>>
>
> At this stage of the discussion, the efficiency of the transformer, or
> whatever means is used, is a moot point for the sake of simplicity.

> Robert, don't be an ass.  I know it's been genetically inbred into
> your genes, but try harder...  A lot harder.  Work on your social
> skills, you can overcome your handicaps handicaps.
>
> Try offering some useful advice when others are asking for advice.
> It could be your New Year's resolution!
>
> Take care
>
> Pete
>
> 




Article: 327728 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM>
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Subject: Re: Re-tubing an Atwater Kent 35 with 26's
Message-ID: <QK0pf.31244$Mi5.883@dukeread07>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:58:30 -0500


"Robert Mozeleski" <robert.mozeleski@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:Qy0pf.338$Fo1.55@trndny07...
> Pete, you come back with a wise ass, remark. What do you expect? If you
couldn't tell the original

Robert

If you can add to what I attempted to convey with more clarity, than why
didn't you do so? That would have have been a  service to others
in the newsgroup, and to the OP I was responding to.

Your intent was to insult me, and now your feigning indigity at my response?
Again, you proved my point. Twice in one thread--as I expected.

You can't see that?

You don't give a rat's ass about helping the other guy, or you would have.

A lot of folks don't like commercial postings on the newsgroup. The ones
that do are very vocal, yet they expect us to kowtow to THEIR wishes by
being silent. That sounds rather onesided. Our opinion is just as valid
as any other. Why not do what you folks suggest we do? Just use your
killfile, and you won't be annoyed by my opinions or advice? I certainly
don't morph between various newsgroup IDs unlike others who crave
constant attention.

regards

Pete




Article: 327729 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Is this Zenith chairside worth it?
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:59:40 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <do258s$lf9$1@reader1.panix.com>
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In <Fs0pf.31240$Mi5.4221@dukeread07> " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM> writes:

>My eye gravitates to the 1938 shutterdial.  The later 1940s models don't
>quite catch my eye...  Personal choice.

   I'm with you there.  The triangular robot dial is tops, IMHO.
There was a '38 half-round chairside, the 6S249, but only six
tubes and it's not a shutterdial.  Still a good looking set.

-- 
                                        Tim Mullen
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Article: 327730 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Daniele" <dastREMOVE@tuberadio.it>
Subject: WTB: Grunow 460 parts
Message-ID: <VR0pf.6982$eD5.110119@twister2.libero.it>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:06:29 GMT

Looking for:
- Power transformer;
- Dial cover;
- knobs
Another complete set (for a friend) is also wanted.
Offers welcome by email.

--

Daniele     ^___^
http://www.tuberadio.it




Article: 327731 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Al McWhorter" <radioal@worldnet.att.net>
References: <4wIof.1345$Ed.960@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <mKIof.45800$ME5.33865@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <pan.2005.12.17.14.43.39.405955@privacy.net>
Subject: Re: Laugh of the day
Message-ID: <RY0pf.165821$qk4.100160@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:13:53 GMT

What is it with those radios?  I have one that was purchased for me at a 
flea market by a relative who thought it would be a great addition to my 
collection.  It had an awfully scratchy volume pot, but (after cleaning the 
pot) actually isn't too bad for a solid state table radio.  I kept it so I 
wouldn't hurt his feelings.  After all it MIGHT be a collectable for my son 
in about 40 years and it sort of gives me a chuckle because we couldn't give 
'em away back when I worked for the Shack the the '80s.

Al

"philo" <philo@privacy.net> wrote in message 
news:pan.2005.12.17.14.43.39.405955@privacy.net...
> On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:13:06 +0000, Lou deGonzague wrote:
>
>> Ha Ha. I used to manage a couple RS stores and these were nice sounding
>> table radios. But any more than $10 at a garage sale would be paying too
>> much for me.
>
>
> but for $1 it would not be too bad of a deal 




Article: 327732 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Robert Mozeleski" <robert.mozeleski@verizon.net>
References: <4371ab39da6cdaade8a3d1e5c0fee031@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <D8qdnYzK7K__zzneRVn-ow@qx.net> <2XYof.31212$Mi5.2781@dukeread07> <87Zof.185$Fo1.27@trndny07> <GC_of.31219$Mi5.1049@dukeread07> <Qy0pf.338$Fo1.55@trndny07> <QK0pf.31244$Mi5.883@dukeread07>
Subject: Re: Re-tubing an Atwater Kent 35 with 26's
Message-ID: <z%0pf.99$ul2.53@trndny05>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:16:47 GMT

Deleted most of your rant as your posts are not worth reading. I'm only gonna answer one part. If i could have 
understood what the original posters problem was, and if i knew the answer, i would have replied. Plain and simple. 
You gave some answer, somewhat incorrect, then at the bottom of the post you post some wise ass remark. What is 
your answer to that?  Anyone can see you just did that to cause trouble.
Now when someone replies, you get all bent out of shape. You expect no one to reply to your wise ass comment? Why 
did you post it then? Even if you gave the guy a correct answer in a helpful way you had to go and be a wiseass. So 
now that it comes back to you, that shows you can't handle it. Then you go on your rant of take your meds, your 
inbred, you know nothing, you have no social skills. Guess what, your colors are showing again.
 You can't handle it pete, wiseass behind the keyboard.


" Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM> wrote in message
> Robert
> If you can add to what I attempted to convey with more clarity, than why
> didn't you do so? That would have have been a  service to others
> in the newsgroup, and to the OP I was responding to.




Article: 327733 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM>
References: <4371ab39da6cdaade8a3d1e5c0fee031@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <D8qdnYzK7K__zzneRVn-ow@qx.net> <2XYof.31212$Mi5.2781@dukeread07> <87Zof.185$Fo1.27@trndny07> <GC_of.31219$Mi5.1049@dukeread07> <Qy0pf.338$Fo1.55@trndny07> <QK0pf.31244$Mi5.883@dukeread07> <z%0pf.99$ul2.53@trndny05>
Subject: Re: Re-tubing an Atwater Kent 35 with 26's
Message-ID: <761pf.31247$Mi5.14712@dukeread07>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:23:21 -0500


"Robert Mozeleski" <robert.mozeleski@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:z%0pf.99$ul2.53@trndny05...
> Deleted most of your rant as your posts are not worth reading. I'm only
gonna answer one part. If i

Whatever you say Robert.

Regards

Pete




Article: 327734 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Robert Mozeleski" <robert.mozeleski@verizon.net>
References: <4371ab39da6cdaade8a3d1e5c0fee031@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <D8qdnYzK7K__zzneRVn-ow@qx.net> <2XYof.31212$Mi5.2781@dukeread07> <87Zof.185$Fo1.27@trndny07> <GC_of.31219$Mi5.1049@dukeread07> <Qy0pf.338$Fo1.55@trndny07> <QK0pf.31244$Mi5.883@dukeread07> <z%0pf.99$ul2.53@trndny05> <761pf.31247$Mi5.14712@dukeread07>
Subject: OT now, was Re: Re-tubing an Atwater Kent 35 with 26's
Message-ID: <Rt1pf.172$dh2.153@trndny08>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:49:05 GMT

Now, now pete. I'm trying to have a discussion why you were such a smart ass or was it wise ass and now you drop 
out. I just wanted an answer. I'll even mark the thread OT.

" Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM> wrote in message news:761pf.31247$Mi5.14712@dukeread07...
>
> "Robert Mozeleski" <robert.mozeleski@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:z%0pf.99$ul2.53@trndny05...
>> Deleted most of your rant as your posts are not worth reading. I'm only
> gonna answer one part. If i
>
> Whatever you say Robert.
>
> Regards
>
> Pete
>
> 




Article: 327735 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "DumpsterDiver" <lagartixa@worldnet.att.net>
References: <4371ab39da6cdaade8a3d1e5c0fee031@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>
Subject: Re: Re-tubing an Atwater Kent 35 with 26's
Message-ID: <cy1pf.304324$zb5.161113@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:53:44 GMT

It could certainly be done.  Problem is that it would require significant
modification of the circuitry of the radio.  And then, after hours of
soldering and tweaking, it still will likely not perform exactly the same;
satisfactory, but not quite equal.

And, any such fiddling "under the hood" will detract from the authenticity
and $ value of the set, probably more than offsetting any saving from not
having to buy the right tubes.

Good, tested, 01A's are readily available for less than $10 without looking
too hard, so it just ain't worth the trouble.  And #26's are in the same
ballpark these days so - like somebody has already suggested - you can
probably work out a swap deal.


DD

"Pete_O" <stateasylum@private> wrote in message
news:4371ab39da6cdaade8a3d1e5c0fee031@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com...
> Apart from the filament voltage difference, has anyone tried to run an
> Atwater Kent 35 using  type 26 triodes?  A series filament resistor to the
> audio tubes and detector bias look like the only possible component
> changes.  I'm awash in 26's and running out of 01-A's; if this were a
> valuable radio I wouldn't be experimenting. I just can't leave things
> alone either.  -Pete O.
>





Article: 327736 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Robert Mozeleski" <robert.mozeleski@verizon.net>
References: <4371ab39da6cdaade8a3d1e5c0fee031@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <D8qdnYzK7K__zzneRVn-ow@qx.net> <2XYof.31212$Mi5.2781@dukeread07> <87Zof.185$Fo1.27@trndny07> <GC_of.31219$Mi5.1049@dukeread07> <Qy0pf.338$Fo1.55@trndny07> <QK0pf.31244$Mi5.883@dukeread07> <z%0pf.99$ul2.53@trndny05> <761pf.31247$Mi5.14712@dukeread07> <Rt1pf.172$dh2.153@trndny08>
Subject: Re: OT now, was Re: Re-tubing an Atwater Kent 35 with 26's
Message-ID: <az1pf.646$u36.349@trndny01>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:54:46 GMT

Come on pete, we are almost real time messaging here,  have a answer for this one either you wrote to the 
pictures.radio the other day? Your usual off topic self when you can't give a correct answer.

> " Uncle Peter" radioconnection@cox.net wrote in message
"Give us chills that you like to morph between various identities, like
stephen. Are you talking YOUR meds, David?"

> " Uncle Peter" <radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM> wrote in message news:761pf.31247$Mi5.14712@dukeread07...
>>
>> "Robert Mozeleski" <robert.mozeleski@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:z%0pf.99$ul2.53@trndny05...
>>> Deleted most of your rant as your posts are not worth reading. I'm only
>> gonna answer one part. If i
>>
>> Whatever you say Robert.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Pete
>>
>>
>
> 




Article: 327737 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: John Bachman <johnREMOVE@anatek.REMOVEmv.com>
Subject: Re: Is this Zenith chairside worth it?
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:31:14 -0500
Message-ID: <sdb9q15g90d3sd4kpj68d0r6mrleifanpd@4ax.com>
References: <h968q1d2k0inqj97dlsondlpmvcgbnc2ne@4ax.com> <do17rm$27a0$1@news3.infoave.net>

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:37:42 -0700, "xrongor"
<hacky@smackeycrackey.com> wrote:

>next time click bid history, then back to item.  you will get a short link. 
>there are other ways to do it also, but this one is easy.
>
>randy 
>
Ahhh, that is how it is done.  Been wondering.

John


Article: 327738 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Ken Scharf <wa2mzeNOTTHIS@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: Re-tubing an Atwater Kent 35 with 26's
References: <4371ab39da6cdaade8a3d1e5c0fee031@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <ZB%of.461$RZ6.123@bignews7.bellsouth.net> <7e60a1d1b2591ec5fdf4496ac6a8626b@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>
Message-ID: <6o2pf.4476$Qa1.4134@bignews1.bellsouth.net>
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:53:35 -0500

Pete_O wrote:
> If you wanted to do this, rewire the filaments so the rf and 1st af stages
> run off the same supply.  Get an old 2.5vct filament transformer rated at
> 5 amps to power the 26's, and put a 1 ohm 5 watt resistor in series with
> the connection to each tube to drop the extra volt.  Power the 27 without
> the resistor.  I guess at this point I would replace the output tube with
> a type 45 since it will run nice on 2.5v as well.
> 
> ***Since it's a junk chassis, I've rewired it into two series strings and
> added 1 ohm in series with the A supply leads.  This gives me a filament
> draw of just over 2 amps with a 6.3v supply. So far it works with 6 26's;
> tonight I'll put 135 volts B+ to it. Using 45's for audio wouldn't work
> with this filament config and I don't think they like 135 volts. 
> 
> This isn't a serious project, just a way to use up an abundance of 26's in
> a radio of no great value; some of my Philco's have UHF acorn detectors
> since I've got so many excess 9005 tubes (Boonton Radio leftovers)!  Do I
> smell something burning?  It must be the soldering iron.   -Pete O.
> 


I'm willing to bet the radio won't work with ac on the tube heaters
in the detector stage.  But you can always put a FWB rectifier and
filter cap in there and run the tubes on DC.  As long as the juice is
coming from a transformer a little cheating won't matter.


Article: 327739 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Georg Richter" <hourdi@t-online.de>
Subject: Marconiphone 262 (GB?)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 02:31:53 +0100
Message-ID: <do2e6m$koq$02$1@news.t-online.com>

Hi all,

there are three pics on a.b.p.r from the
(British) Marconiphone Model 262.

I ask for the tube lineout. It seems that
the same chassis is used in the model 272.

Tubes of 272 are
M54B   VMS4   MH4   MPT4   U12
(with some question marks)

262 (and 272) are AC Superheterodyne
for BC (MW) and LW.

Any hints (and the schematic ;-) are welcome.

Thank you very much in advance.

Kind Regards,
Georg




Article: 327740 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Radio Shack today
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:29:01 -0700
Message-ID: <1485-43A4BB5D-658@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net>
References: <Xns972FADA2812C1hificom@216.196.97.131>

That's a good name for them.



:-)



Article: 327741 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Georg Richter" <hourdi@t-online.de>
Subject: Re: Laugh of the day
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 02:42:27 +0100
Message-ID: <do2eqf$g9a$03$1@news.t-online.com>
References: <4wIof.1345$Ed.960@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <dnvkre$1d6$1@news2.kornet.net> <RxMof.2523$Ed.574@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>

"Rune" wrote:

> Could be worse. Could be a reserve on it too.
>
> Ray
>
> "Brenda Ann" wrote
> >
> > I want some of what that guy's smokin'.... (not really)

Maybe that guy is smoking katalin?

Georg (smoking any kind of tea in the pipe when was young)




Article: 327742 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Is this Zenith chairside worth it?
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:37:10 -0700
Message-ID: <1485-43A4BD46-660@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net>
References: <284c2$43a44054$4232bd95$11671@COQUI.NET>

Way to go Bill !  i like those . There is nothing wrong with the CH.S in
question if one likes it . Its a bit spendy though .

 



Article: 327743 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Al McWhorter" <radioal@worldnet.att.net>
References: <SXpkf.29000$%i.27488@tornado.texas.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Ceramic phono cartridge loading question
Message-ID: <dN3pf.166222$qk4.5316@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 02:26:17 GMT

I have had great success with the following circuit, lifted from the 
schematic of an old Scott Preamp.
Although the exact values vary somewhat, I have seen similar inputs on most 
amps that have both ceramic and magnetic inputs.  The sound is AMAZINGLY 
improved over using the AUX or Tape inputs.  I think it is partially the 
RIAA EQ on the mag input and partially the rather small coupling capacitor 
on the input.  With my combo, the volume level is even perfect relative to 
tape and tuner.

                     150pF         100K
Ceramic Cart--| |----------^^^---Magnetic input
                             |
                             \
                             /  82K
                             \
                             /
                             Gnd

In case the ASCII art doesn't go through, the ceramic cartridge is connected 
to a 150pF disc cap in series with a 100K resistor with an 82K resistor from 
their junction to ground.  I just built it into an RCA cable and it works 
great.  I have been using it for a while to connect a really generic '70s 
BSR Changer to a solid state Dynaco amp.


"Robert Caston" <RCASTON@houston.rr.com> wrote in message 
news:SXpkf.29000$%i.27488@tornado.texas.rr.com...
>I am in the process of rebuilding a 50's vintage changer for a friend who 
>wants to use it to play old mono LP's and 78's through the AUX or Tape 
>inputs of an integrated amp. I am going to install a flipover stylus style 
>ceramic cartridge in place of the dead crystal unit that is in the tonearm 
>now.  My question concerns the proper loading of this cartridge so that it 
>will produce acceptable playback through his system. I understand that 
>installing a resistor between the cartridge and amp input can serve to 
>equalize the cartridge output and provide adequate playback quality. Any 
>ideas as to what value resistor I should try? Am I on the right track here? 
>Any advice is greatly appreciated.
>
> 




Article: 327744 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jeffrey D Angus <jangus@socal.rr.com>
Subject: Siemans K32-GWB comments....
Message-ID: <U14pf.3976$pE4.846@tornado.socal.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 02:44:04 GMT

After careful perusal of the schematics...(a bit obscure)

They have the filaments wired in parallel for 1.1 to 1.5 volt dry
cell operation, or with an additional 3.45 ohm resistor for 1.8 to
2.1 volt wet cell operation. Quite a novel approach, but certainly
a good idea considering the unit was designed for operation in a
theater of war.

Alternatively, they have the filaments series paralleled to 2.4
volts off of tapped resistors across the 220 VAC line.

Rather than suck all my batteries dry working on the radio, I've
acquired a pair of Lambda power supplies. Approximately $10 each
in the local surpls shop. One of them set to 120 VDC for the B+
and one set at 2.1 VDC for the filaments.

Oh boy, I should be able to get this up and running in time for
Christmas. (After I fix the broken dial string pulley.)

Jeff

-- 
RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to
the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal
force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED
under the Internal Security Act of 1950.


Article: 327745 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jim Mueller <wrongname@nospam.com>
Subject: Re: Thank you
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:33:08 -0700
Message-ID: <pan.2005.12.18.03.33.06.24168@nospam.com>
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0512170106000.4896@oak>

On Sat, 17 Dec 2005 07:15:51 +0000, Jeramy Ross wrote:

> To all on the list,
> 
>     I've been a long-time lurker here on the list, and have gained many 
> valuable nuggets of knowledge from posts here.  In sorting through all of 
> the flames, I've rarely noticed a thanks for the knowledge shared here. 
> So here goes..
> 
> Thank you all!
> 
>     I'm 26, so my interest in radios that glow is found to be odd by many 
> of my elders.  I have no nostalgic connection to them since they were 
> already a thing of the past by the time I was old enough to start 
> tinkering.  My connection comes from my first radios were freebies dug out 
> of relative's barns, attics, etc. and all were tube type.  In getting 
> those to run, I formed an instant bond to all things tube.  The point of 
> all of this rambling is to maybe remind you all that you are helping at 
> least one "youngin" to gain knowlege and cut his teeth in this great 
> hobby.  I really do appreciate all you share (even the flames from time to 
> time... when taken with humor, they can inspire quite a few chuckles).
> 
> Best wishes and happy holidays to all,
> Jeramy

Welcome to the group.

I'm 58 and a lot of people my age think that my interest in antique radios
is odd too.

-- 
Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com

To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz.
Then replace nospam with sacbeemail.


Article: 327746 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jeffrey D Angus <jangus@socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Thank you
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0512170106000.4896@oak> <pan.2005.12.18.03.33.06.24168@nospam.com>
Message-ID: <3Q4pf.6859$hI1.6255@tornado.socal.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 03:37:35 GMT



Jim Mueller wrote:
> Jeramy Ross wrote:
>>
>>    I'm 26, so my interest in radios that glow is found to be
>> odd by many of my elders.
> 
> I'm 58 and a lot of people my age think that my interest in
> antique radios is odd too.

I'm 52 and my first project was about 5 years ago. A Columbia
record player. About a year later, I did a small code practice
oscillator I bought off of one of the people here on the news
group.

Everyone I know thinks I'm odd. Radios have NOTHING to do with
it. ;-)

Welcome to the interesting world of vacuum tube radios Jeramy.

Jeff



-- 
RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to
the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal
force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED
under the Internal Security Act of 1950.


Article: 327747 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: The 'Bing Crosby' Philco 1201
From: lherault@bu.edu
References: <11q3turmfumrt4f@corp.supernews.com> <27742-43A22735-384@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 03:45:41 GMT
Message-ID: <43a4daaf_1@newsfeed.slurp.net>

I've got one of these that I had recapped.  I rebuilt the cartridge and it
is a hoot to play.   It amazes my houseguests.

Ron L


Article: 327748 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Paul P" <p.pinyotREMOVE@REMOVEworldnet.attREMOVE.netREMOVE>
References: <1559-43A3AA33-618@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net> <1134830528.557903.270580@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <43a45bd4$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net>
Subject: Re: Radio Shack today
Message-ID: <n65pf.305299$zb5.184445@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 03:57:07 GMT

. We have a
> ham-radio-supply shop here in town called Amateur Electronic Supply. 
> Shortwave radios, CB, transceivers, training kits for ham licenses, dozens 
> and dozens of antennas (they also sell the Terk AM Advantage for $50), 
> soldering stations (I almost bought a WTCPT for $119 when I was last 
> there) etc. They had a few Vectronics kits, including the AM transmitter 
> for $30.
>
> If we have one up here in podunk Milwaukee, I'm sure you do too. Check the 
> YP.


The Ham club I belong to in New Kensington PA has twice yearly "junkets" to 
the Cleveland area AES.  Every guy that walks through the door gets that 
glassy eyed look on their face and drool.

Paul
KB3LZP




Article: 327749 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Why is military gear hard to find
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:15:17 -0700
Message-ID: <22485-43A4FE75-884@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net>

In all my collecting years i hardly ever if ever see old boat anchor
stuff around .
Only had 2 or 3 pieces of it . 



Article: 327750 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Your connection?
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:20:59 -0700
Message-ID: <22487-43A4FFCB-66@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1134882598.435660.77690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

Webtv is about as behind and slow as i can come up with and your site
and pictures load in seconds .

ebay is a pain with webtv   



Article: 327751 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Jon" <jon@NOscapturaSPAM.com>
References: <1134882598.435660.77690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Your connection?
Message-ID: <cK7pf.33374$XJ5.27548@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 06:56:08 GMT


"Terry S" <tschw10117@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:1134882598.435660.77690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> It occurs to me I'm spoiled with my broadband cable connection. And
> I've let some of my web pages get embarrasingly large.
>
> I remember when I was on dial-up I hated big pages 'cause they took
> forever to load.
>
> How many of you are on dial-up, vs. broadband?  If it's still a high
> percentage dial-up, maybe I should break of some of the pages and
> reduce some image sizes?
>
> Terry.
>
> http://members.aol.com/tschw10117/mypage.htm
>

I'm on cable here, and your pages load fine for me.

-- 
Jon Scaptura
Endicott, NY

See my antique radios here:
http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery/Antique_radios
and the workbench webcam:
http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam





Article: 327752 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <43A513A8.EE33F403@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Thank you
References: <Pine.LNX.4.64.0512170106000.4896@oak> <pan.2005.12.18.03.33.06.24168@nospam.com> <3Q4pf.6859$hI1.6255@tornado.socal.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 07:46:07 GMT

Jeffrey D Angus wrote:
> 
> Everyone I know thinks I'm odd. Radios have NOTHING to do with
> it. ;-)


   Now you're just bragging, Jeff! ;-)

-- 
Been there, Done that, I've got my DD214 to prove it.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 327753 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Paul P" <p.pinyotREMOVE@REMOVEworldnet.attREMOVE.netREMOVE>
References: <1133886781.349726.283930@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133890993.552518.232040@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133894585.958348.43070@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <Vnmlf.1404$pE4.1297@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1133900912.913912.305620@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1133901929.337244.254500@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1133905060.830975.30970@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <pan.2005.12.07.05.12.14.801875@nospam.com>
Subject: Re: old hickok connector source?
Message-ID: <SQ8pf.166966$qk4.165424@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 08:11:30 GMT

> Before you replace the connector, consider how much voltage it has to
> handle.  These old mic connectors had quite a gap between the center
> conductor and shell which is probably why they were used in the first
> place.  The VTVMs that I have seen that used "1/4" phone plugs" actually
> used special plugs with extra thick insulation.  BNC connectors are only
> rated to 500V as you can see here:
> http://www.pomonaelectronics.com/pdf/d4160_1_02.pdf.
> There are other connectors similar to BNC that are suitable for higher
> voltage (MHV and SHV) but they are harder to get.

Never thought of that but makes perfect sense!

PP. 




Article: 327754 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Paul P" <p.pinyotREMOVE@REMOVEworldnet.attREMOVE.netREMOVE>
References: <1134882598.435660.77690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Your connection?
Message-ID: <739pf.166997$qk4.155027@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 08:26:43 GMT

I am on dial up.  Mostly connects at 49.2 to 50.x. A comfortable size for 
perusing the binaries is 150k.  Less than 100 is great!  Sometimes (rarely) 
I will post a second big one right after a smaller one.

You cant beat a larger picture for a detail shot.  I will tolerate the load 
time for a really good detail shot.  Over 500k is just about my patients 
limit.

But all this is soon to change with Verizon's slower DSL offering at 15 
bucks a month. "Product Package*: HDNO Online 768k/128k ANNUAL PLAN CONSUMER 
VOL DSL "

Paul.


"Terry S" <tschw10117@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:1134882598.435660.77690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> It occurs to me I'm spoiled with my broadband cable connection. And
> I've let some of my web pages get embarrasingly large.
>
> I remember when I was on dial-up I hated big pages 'cause they took
> forever to load.
>
> How many of you are on dial-up, vs. broadband?  If it's still a high
> percentage dial-up, maybe I should break of some of the pages and
> reduce some image sizes?
>
> Terry.
>
> http://members.aol.com/tschw10117/mypage.htm
> 




Article: 327755 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Paul P" <p.pinyotREMOVE@REMOVEworldnet.attREMOVE.netREMOVE>
Subject: Greyhound
Message-ID: <HD9pf.167078$qk4.50588@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 09:05:43 GMT

How many of you have used Greyhound bus lines to ship a restored radio, 
consoles and table tops?  Have you had difficulty with them? I received my 
first (empty) console cabinet and had good results. I am running into 
eBayers that have a problem with the shipping costs with a couple of my 
listings.

I figured that I would table the topic to see if I may be missing something 
obvious or not relative to shipping radios inexpensively.

Thanks,
Paul. 




Article: 327756 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 08:41:42 -0400
From: Bill <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: Your connection?
References: <1134882598.435660.77690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <c5ed8$43a55908$4232bd44$27680@COQUI.NET>

Terry S wrote:

> 
> How many of you are on dial-up, vs. broadband?  If it's still a high
> percentage dial-up, maybe I should break of some of the pages and
> reduce some image sizes?
> 

Dial-up here.  I think you've done a very good job of keeping file sizes 
and page sizes in order.  Better than most.  I was surprised to find 
that your 320x240 pix were under 10kb in some cases.  Some people manage 
to cram a hundred kb in a pic of that size :(

-Bill


Article: 327757 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Ken <wklwns@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Marconiphone 262 (GB?)
References: <do2e6m$koq$02$1@news.t-online.com>
Message-ID: <Jndpf.3342$Ou3.2521@dukeread09>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 08:21:37 -0500

Why does the pic come out only letters and numbers for me?????    Ken

Georg Richter wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> there are three pics on a.b.p.r from the
> (British) Marconiphone Model 262.
> 
> I ask for the tube lineout. It seems that
> the same chassis is used in the model 272.
> 
> Tubes of 272 are
> M54B   VMS4   MH4   MPT4   U12
> (with some question marks)
> 
> 262 (and 272) are AC Superheterodyne
> for BC (MW) and LW.
> 
> Any hints (and the schematic ;-) are welcome.
> 
> Thank you very much in advance.
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Georg
> 
> 



Article: 327758 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Bill Jeffrey <wjeffreyAT@alum.DOTmit.edu>
Subject: Re: Your connection?
References: <1134882598.435660.77690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <kJepf.425$xF6.135@fed1read01>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 07:53:43 -0700

Cable ...

Bill Jeffrey
=====================

Terry S wrote:

> It occurs to me I'm spoiled with my broadband cable connection. And
> I've let some of my web pages get embarrasingly large.
> 
> I remember when I was on dial-up I hated big pages 'cause they took
> forever to load.
> 
> How many of you are on dial-up, vs. broadband?  If it's still a high
> percentage dial-up, maybe I should break of some of the pages and
> reduce some image sizes?
> 
> Terry.
> 
> http://members.aol.com/tschw10117/mypage.htm
> 


Article: 327759 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Robert Sherrod <rtsherrod@mchsi.com>
Subject: Schematics for a RCA Victor VGE 03W...
Message-ID: <W2fpf.411803$084.226428@attbi_s22>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 15:16:06 GMT

Hello everyone,

I am looking for schematics and service information for a RCA Victor 
Victrola, model VGE 03W. It date to the early 60's and has a solid state 
stereo amplifier and speakers that cab be removed from the cabinet.

I will be installing a new power cord, but I would also like to replace 
the electrolytics and any other necessary items.

If anyone can help, it will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Bobby
KC9IHK


Article: 327760 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Hagstar <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Re: Spring Meet in the Carolinas
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 10:19:58 -0500
Message-ID: <43A57E1E.8000704@SPAMMERSatt.net>
References: <11q2vnleep7un43@corp.supernews.com>   <cpmof.1620$rw.1444@southeast.rr.com>   <1134695971.568491.39510@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <11q6v4ot1i1ea09@corp.supernews.com>   <b658d$43a38bb6$4232bd07$30001@COQUI.NET>   <11q73b75pa8se1b@corp.supernews.com> <1134826423.228358.267350@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

I may take you up on that, thanks! My van is fully equipped like a mini 
RV, but having a place to plug it in is essential :). Sounds like more 
fun than KOA. Unlike places like Ohio, N. Carolina campgrounds are still 
closed then. I'll let you know when I firm everything up.

Thanks again,
John H.

Eddie Brimer wrote:
>  
> BS.  john...if you need a place to stay, my doors are open to you. i
> have an extra bedroom in my home if you are interested. i know you like
> to camp. My "barn" has electrical and a bathroom. also has a place to
> sleep if you would rather sleep inside than under the stars. very cozy
> with cedar lined walls, dead deer heads, stuffed birds, and animal
> hides.  also has a big screen TV and stereo if you really want to rough
> it. even a couple of old radios in there. me casa is su casa.




Article: 327761 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Hagstar <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Re: Spring Meet in the Carolinas
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 10:20:14 -0500
Message-ID: <11qavhf3nbci5e6@corp.supernews.com>
References: <11q2vnleep7un43@corp.supernews.com>   <cpmof.1620$rw.1444@southeast.rr.com>   <1134695971.568491.39510@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <11q6v4ot1i1ea09@corp.supernews.com>   <b658d$43a38bb6$4232bd07$30001@COQUI.NET>   <11q73b75pa8se1b@corp.supernews.com> <1134826423.228358.267350@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

I may take you up on that, thanks! My van is fully equipped like a mini 
RV, but having a place to plug it in is essential :). Sounds like more 
fun than KOA. Unlike places like Ohio, N. Carolina campgrounds are still 
closed then. I'll let you know when I firm everything up.

Thanks again,
John H.

Eddie Brimer wrote:
>  
> BS.  john...if you need a place to stay, my doors are open to you. i
> have an extra bedroom in my home if you are interested. i know you like
> to camp. My "barn" has electrical and a bathroom. also has a place to
> sleep if you would rather sleep inside than under the stars. very cozy
> with cedar lined walls, dead deer heads, stuffed birds, and animal
> hides.  also has a big screen TV and stereo if you really want to rough
> it. even a couple of old radios in there. me casa is su casa.




Article: 327762 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Al McWhorter" <radioal@worldnet.att.net>
References: <yWlof.4$Ou3.2@dukeread09>   <r--dnRG5iJRoczzenZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com>   <11q3turmfumrt4f@corp.supernews.com> <1134700572.939981.307510@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: The 'Bing Crosby' Philco 1201
Message-ID: <Vgfpf.167885$qk4.16769@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 15:31:01 GMT

Were these sets also sold in South America?  I have a schematic for mine 
(downloaded from the web a couple of years ago, can't recall which site) 
which is in what appears to be Portuguese or maybe Spanish.  Of course this 
is no problem as it is a really simple Loctal AA5, but it sort of piqued my 
curiosity.

This discussion has encouraged me to actually get started with my Bing 
Crosby.  Its in pretty good shape except for a very rotten line cord and 
some scrapes in the paint on the tops of the curved sides.  The faux wood is 
not too shabby, but a little dull.  Is it possible to put a new clear coat 
over that?  I have never done a faux wood cabinet before.  (I'm more of a 
bakelite AA5 and early FM kind of guy...)

Al


"AuroraOldRadios" <menwagoh@msn.com> wrote in message 
news:1134700572.939981.307510@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> The local antique stores in Denver think they are quite valuable-
> usually priced $150-175, working or not, ugly or not. Of course, the
> several I've seen have been on dealers' shelves for 8-10 months.
> 




Article: 327763 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Steve" <zarco@sonic.net>
References: <1134882598.435660.77690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Your connection?
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 08:42:34 -0800
Message-ID: <43a5914f$0$58104$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>

Still on dial up here. I read an article recently that stated
that about half of internet users in the USA are using dial up,
but that figure is expected to continue to drop as alternatives
drop in price.






Article: 327764 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "onemoretime" <dmcken@accesscomm.ca>
Subject: Sparton radio
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:04:15 +0100
Message-ID: <ea73886582814f2b072f3519601827f0@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>

Have just purchased another Canadian radio, hope someone can help in the
identifying. Sparton Radio, model 10140 10 tube superheterodyne made in
London, Ontario.



Article: 327765 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "xrongor" <hacky@smackeycrackey.com>
Subject: Re: Sparton radio
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 10:00:28 -0700
Message-ID: <do44jb$3mhk$1@news3.infoave.net>
References: <ea73886582814f2b072f3519601827f0@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>

i can identify it.  its a sparton model 10140 10 tube made in london ontario 
<g>

sorry, couldnt resist.  what exactly are you looking for?

randy

"onemoretime" <dmcken@accesscomm.ca> wrote in message 
news:ea73886582814f2b072f3519601827f0@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com...
> Have just purchased another Canadian radio, hope someone can help in the
> identifying. Sparton Radio, model 10140 10 tube superheterodyne made in
> London, Ontario.
> 




Article: 327766 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Bob in Phx" <rbelisle1@cox.net>
Subject: free webcore reel to reel and turn table
Message-ID: <z_gpf.283$Cw5.49@fed1read05>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 10:28:09 -0700

Free webcore reel to reel and  or turn table also. First come first served. 
You pay packing and shipping from 85202. First email gets one or both. Cant 
find model numbers, but tag says 1963.

Both are dusty, but appear complete.

Bob in phx

local pickup ok..... 




Article: 327767 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Ron H" <rnharsh@attbi.com>
References: <1134882598.435660.77690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Your connection?
Message-ID: <V9hpf.76097$PH6.62978@fe13.lga>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 11:39:50 -0600

DSL here, works fine but it was a let down when I moved and lost the 500 -
700k cable modem.  Nice site!


Ron H.

"Terry S" <tschw10117@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1134882598.435660.77690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> It occurs to me I'm spoiled with my broadband cable connection. And
> I've let some of my web pages get embarrasingly large.
>
> I remember when I was on dial-up I hated big pages 'cause they took
> forever to load.
>
> How many of you are on dial-up, vs. broadband?  If it's still a high
> percentage dial-up, maybe I should break of some of the pages and
> reduce some image sizes?
>
> Terry.
>
> http://members.aol.com/tschw10117/mypage.htm
>




Article: 327768 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Paul P" <p.pinyotREMOVE@REMOVEworldnet.attREMOVE.netREMOVE>
Subject: International shipping
Message-ID: <Uvhpf.308723$zb5.50302@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 18:03:32 GMT

Who has shipped internationally?  How do you handle customs on the receiving 
end?  What are the problems with Paypal payments?  I have a request if I 
would ship a Philco Transitone  AA5 to Holland.

I figured that I would use UPS and have them broker the importation of the 
radio into Holland.

Thanks,
Paul 




Article: 327769 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Sparton radio
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:26:37 -0600
Message-ID: <27843-43A5A9DD-162@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net>
References: <ea73886582814f2b072f3519601827f0@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>

I own an old Sparton radio.The top of the radio is curve shaped,it does
work ok.
cuhulin



Article: 327770 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Why is military gear hard to find
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:30:13 -0600
Message-ID: <27842-43A5AAB5-731@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net>
References: <Pchpf.6003$Tg2.2083@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>

My made in the Springtime of 1942 Willys WW II Jeep.I am looking for a
proper,working Military Radio.
cuhulin



Article: 327771 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Radio Shack today
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:36:31 -0600
Message-ID: <27842-43A5AC2F-732@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net>
References: <27742-43A430A2-673@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net>

Ten-Tec sells some quality kits.
cuhulin



Article: 327772 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: What's your opinion?
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:50:46 -0600
Message-ID: <27842-43A5AF86-735@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net>
References: <HHImf.4352$ES.2452@fe05.lga>

He could have taped that between a couple of pieces of cardboard and put
than in an envelope and snail mailed it for about 37 cents,couldn't he?
cuhulin



Article: 327773 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Ken <wklwns@cox.net>
Subject: Re: RCA1R81
References: <1134924124.311376.94750@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <7Kipf.3358$Ou3.90@dukeread09>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 14:26:51 -0500

You should recap the entire set before using. Ken

Kenny wrote:

> Hi!
> I recently bought an RCA 1R81. It is in beautiful cosmetic condition,
> has all the original RCA tubes in it, and all the originals labels and
> stickers are still there. The radio played beautifully for about a
> week. Then in made a loud sound and from then on a "rushing" sound
> could be heard on all sources if the volume were turned down all the
> way. Now it will produce only very low volume without going into
> serious distortion. I tried replacing the 6V6GT and 6AV6 tubes to no
> avail. Since the problem appears on AM, FM, and phono, I suspect a bad
> resistor or capacitor somwhere in the audio section. Any ideas on this?
> I would be most grateful for any assistance.
> Thanks!
> Ken in Miami
> 



Article: 327774 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "jim menning" <jmenningMAPS@new.rr.com>
References: <1134882598.435660.77690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Your connection?
Message-ID: <OTipf.4657$7S.1747@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 19:37:18 GMT


"Terry S" <tschw10117@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:1134882598.435660.77690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
> How many of you are on dial-up, vs. broadband?  If it's still a high
> percentage dial-up, maybe I should break of some of the pages and
> reduce some image sizes?
>
> Terry.
>

Roadrunner cable here.

You may be interested in some stats from this site:

http://www.websiteoptimization.com/bw/0507/

jim menning 




Article: 327775 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 15:46:41 -0400
From: Bill <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: International shipping
References: <Uvhpf.308723$zb5.50302@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <FsednZOZIfnpNzjeRVn-gw@comcast.com>
Message-ID: <99410$43a5bca3$4232bd44$26077@COQUI.NET>

Larry Fowkes wrote:

> 
> I have shipped to European and Asian countries without a problem, I however 
> prefer to us the postal service. Paypal can take care of the payment with no 
> problem. Take the box to your post office and fill out the appropriate 
> customs form and you are good to go, everything else is handled by them. 
> Once you have done it a few times it seems no more complicated then shipping 
> domestically.
> 
> Larry Fowkes 
> 
>


I agree, the USPS is the preferred method unless you want to get into 
expensive courier options which could be a pita for the recipient.  If 
he has to pay duty then the duty amount may include the cost of shipping 
as well.

-Bill


Article: 327776 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Steve P." <kawninja@nospam.cableone.net>
Subject: Re: International shipping
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 13:51:38 -0600
Message-ID: <11qbfea8ial5pba@corp.supernews.com>
References: <Uvhpf.308723$zb5.50302@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>

I've shipped internationally at least a dozen times. The cheapest 
international shipping method, by far, is USPS. UPS will cost you 2-3 times 
as much. The main options are Surface Parcel Post (4-6 weeks delivery) or 
Airmail Parcel Post (7-10 days delivery). Surface is about half the cost of 
Airmail, but most international buyers will gladly pay for Airmail. I've 
shipped up to 40 lbs overseas via USPS and never had the slightest damage 
problem. You fill out a single customs form which will be collected at the 
receiver's end. I usually declare the full sales price of the item and let 
international bidders know upfront so if an insurance claim needs to be 
filed I'm fully protected at actual value. I don't play customs games (ie 
declaring a $500 radio as a $5 gift) and if international buyers want me to, 
they can go somewhere else.

Most international buyers are not Paypal address verified, so you'll want to 
look at their feedback and past track record carefully. Good friendly 
communication before bidding also helps. If they check out and their 
communications seem sincere, then you should be OK.

More Ebay sellers need to consider shipping internationally. It's not a big 
deal and those auctions usually bring quite a bit more money.

"Paul P" <p.pinyotREMOVE@REMOVEworldnet.attREMOVE.netREMOVE> wrote in 
message news:Uvhpf.308723$zb5.50302@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...

> Who has shipped internationally?  How do you handle customs on the 
> receiving end?  What are the problems with Paypal payments?  I have a 
> request if I would ship a Philco Transitone  AA5 to Holland.




Article: 327777 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Ron in Radio Heaven <kc4yoy@spam.carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Your connection?
References: <1134882598.435660.77690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <OTipf.4657$7S.1747@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <I8jpf.723$Or5.636@tornado.southeast.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 19:55:20 GMT

>>How many of you are on dial-up, vs. broadband? 
>

  Roadrunner cable here too.

Ron


Article: 327778 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "onemoretime" <dmcken@accesscomm.ca>
Subject: help wanted
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 15:03:44 +0100
Message-ID: <5016b7171cb3e6248d8567fd6cb135cf@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>

Need help identifying a radio I just bought. Sparton model 10140
superheterodyne
London, Ontario uses the "swing tune" method of selecting stations. Uses
the following tubes:
1 6SA7, 2 6K7G, 3 6J5G, 2 6F6G, 1 6E5, 1 5Y4G
Any help will be appreciated
Doug




Article: 327779 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Caveat Lector" <UALLBeware@9984reader.com>
References: <Pchpf.6003$Tg2.2083@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <27842-43A5AAB5-731@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net>
Subject: Re: Why is military gear hard to find
Message-ID: <8jjpf.845$_L5.605@fed1read06>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:07:10 -0800


Cuhulin -- try a different news group -- the military boatanchor types hang 
out at
rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors

Good luck
-- 
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !






<cuhulin@webtv.net> wrote in message 
news:27842-43A5AAB5-731@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net...
> My made in the Springtime of 1942 Willys WW II Jeep.I am looking for a
> proper,working Military Radio.
> cuhulin
> 




Article: 327780 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Scott W. Harvey" <NOT_MY_REAL@email.com>
Subject: Re: Your connection?
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 12:07:32 -0800
Message-ID: <do4fi202m7g@news1.newsguy.com>
References: <1134882598.435660.77690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

Terry S wrote:
> It occurs to me I'm spoiled with my broadband cable connection. And
> I've let some of my web pages get embarrasingly large.
> 
> I remember when I was on dial-up I hated big pages 'cause they took
> forever to load.
> 
> How many of you are on dial-up, vs. broadband?  If it's still a high
> percentage dial-up, maybe I should break of some of the pages and
> reduce some image sizes?
> 
I normally have DSL, which tops out at 1.5 MBPS. It's smokin' fast 
compared to dial up, and has the advantage of being accessable on my 
laptop even when the power goes kaput, as it often does here during 
storms (I have both ethernet and USB modems).  I also have a webserver 
hooked up to it which hosts my website, allowing me to make a huge 
amount of information available to anyone without having to pay 
additional hosting fees. Very cool.

I have recently moved to a friend's house while our house is being 
remodeled, and she has broadband through Comcast cable. It's smokin' 
fast compared to DSL. The Ampex photos I posted to the binaries a few 
days ago were about 100KB apiece, and they uploaded faster than I could 
click my mouse. I would consider getting it at my place, but 
unfortunately they have caps on the number of bytes they will permit you 
to upload/download in a month before they consider it a TOS violation 
for "abuse of service". Sorry, I run a web server here, and having to 
watch the number of bytes I transact in a month just doesn't cut it.

Some of my friends who are in areas that landline broadband will never 
touch have turned to wireless for their broadband fix. Boy, it has 
really grown up.....1.5 MBPS anywhere in the service area, with no 
physical connection to anything. Given that BPL is such a complete joke 
and always will be, wireless may be the only fast option for those out 
in the sticks for many years.

All of these options are nothing compared to what the future holds. 
Verizon has been rolling out fiber-optic based broadband (10+ MBPS with 
the ability to go much higher) in selected areas for a few months now, 
and SBC is readying their own version, scheduled to appear in 2006-2008. 
It seems that finally most populated areas in the USA will have access 
to the same speeds that the better parts of Europe and Asia have had for 
years. Wotta concept!

I'll never go back to dial-up again, ever.

-Scott


Article: 327781 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Daniele" <dastREMOVE@tuberadio.it>
References: <Uvhpf.308723$zb5.50302@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>
Subject: Re: International shipping
Message-ID: <_akpf.7979$eD5.131128@twister2.libero.it>
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:06:02 GMT


 Paul P wrote:

> Who has shipped internationally?  How do you handle customs on the
> receiving end?  What are the problems with Paypal payments?  I have a
> request if I would ship a Philco Transitone  AA5 to Holland.
>
> I figured that I would use UPS and have them broker the importation
> of the radio into Holland.
>
> Thanks,
> Paul

My 0.02 as italian buyer (about 350-400 Ebay items from all over the world):
- USPS is the cheapest way (economy or air);
- Pay attention when filling custom form, when shipping
  old radios avoid terms like 'electronics', 'radio'.. use
  definitions like 'old tube radio', 'old radio tubes'; if
  the radio is in -not working/bad to see- conditions
  add '..for parts'. Many customs offices make lot of
  troubles to the buyer and apply unconditionated fees
  without knowing what's actually the content of the package
  but what custom form says, the buyer could be paying gold
  for a box of junk. Fees are a percentage   calculated by
  the value plus shipping cost.
- insurance: ask the buyer if he want the package to be
  insured. My experience: absolutely USELESS, packages
  from US can be traced only until the US territory, there
  is no way to know where the package is/was after going
  into the plane or on the ship. There is no way to have refund
  since part of the travel is untraced. Insured shippings
  are in the 80% locked by customs, uninsured only for the 5%.
  Stops at the customs make shippings to arrive about a week
  later for air and sometimes 1.5 months for surface.
- UPS will broker the importation but sometimes the travel
  may be completed by the national service and not by another
  local foreign courier (acording to who is the 'official importing
service'),
  this will not give you a fast ending shipping and will cost
  at least the double.
- Making good packages and searching for the best shipping service
  is a good way to keep the buyer in business for the future, someone
  will gladly pay more from you than less from an unknown seller, he will
  keep you into the favourite sellers list.

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Daniele     ^___^
http://www.tuberadio.it