Article: 328171 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ISH Subject: Magic Brain 9K2 Message-ID: <2mluq15tree0d294ga3pa763ncm88a9n5b@4ax.com> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 02:40:09 GMT My brother in law rescued a radio just brought into the landfill for me. He stated that it is an RCA console model 9K2 circa 1936 with Magic Brain tuning. Checking around the net, I see that this radio covers, in addition to the normal BC and SW, 150-400 kcs, as well as "Ultra Short Wave" 23 Mcs to 60 MCS. I can see long wave, but why 60 Mcs? Also, what is a magic brain? Has anyone restored one of these before? BTW, this radio was about 1 minute away from the compactor when rescued! Ish Article: 328172 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: A Twisted Carol for Chirstmas References: <43AEE5FA.E97A9354@earthlink.net> <1135548354.929592.322070@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 21:59:19 -0500 RadioGary wrote: > Even better, > > http://humor.about.com/gi/dynamic/offsite.htm?site=http://www.bobrivers.com/audiovault/downloads/chipmunkvid.asp > explore the site, there are other sick (good) ones there. I liked Osma got ran over by a reindeer. Article: 328173 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: A Twisted Carol for Chirstmas References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 22:12:10 -0500 xrongor wrote: > "Ken Scharf" wrote in message > news:NSArf.23956$Qa1.3320@bignews1.bellsouth.net... > >>Jeffrey D Angus wrote: >> >>> >>>David Stinson wrote: >>> >>> >>>> "I Saw Daddy Beating Santa Claus" >>> >>> >>>I remember one song from the Dr. Demento show... >>>"I saw daddy kissing Santa Claus" >>>Apparently it was mommy dressed up as Santa. ;-) >>> >>>Jeff >>> >> >>My Favorite Dr. Demento Xmas song is >>"Grandma got ran over by a reindeer" > > > at risk of sounding like an ad... > > you can access some of those good ole songs at drdemento.com in the listen > to this section. it costs a couple bucks (literally) but i can think of > worse ways to blow a couple bucks. > > randy > > I've already got quite a collection of Dr Demento LP's (remember them?) and CD's. Article: 328174 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Magic Brain 9K2 Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 20:26:27 -0700 Message-ID: <29064-43AF62E3-268@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: <2mluq15tree0d294ga3pa763ncm88a9n5b@4ax.com> Good radio . Magic brain .. fancy name for AFC I think that freq. has side band? Article: 328175 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <2mluq15tree0d294ga3pa763ncm88a9n5b@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Magic Brain 9K2 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 22:49:37 -0500 "ISH" wrote in message news:2mluq15tree0d294ga3pa763ncm88a9n5b@4ax.com... > My brother in law rescued a radio just brought into the landfill for > me. He stated that it is an RCA console model 9K2 circa 1936 with > Magic Brain tuning. > Checking around the net, I see that this radio covers, in addition to > the normal BC and SW, 150-400 kcs, as well as "Ultra Short Wave" 23 > Mcs to 60 MCS. I can see long wave, but why 60 Mcs? > > Also, what is a magic brain? Has anyone restored one of these before? > > BTW, this radio was about 1 minute away from the compactor when > rescued! > > Ish Excellent radio, well worth restoring. RCA was big on "magic". They had the Magic Brain RF subchassis, Magic Eye Tuning, and a few others I don't recall at the moment. The extended SW coverage was a marketing ploy when other sets ended coverage at 18 MHz or so. I have the 10T tombstone, which is basically the same radio with one more IF stage. Those sets used ceramic concentric ring trimmers in the RF stages. I've seen many of those sets that 70 years later were aligned on the money with the original factory alignment. Pete Article: 328176 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: A Twisted Carol for Chirstmas Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 22:31:14 -0700 Message-ID: References: add those to the long list of things that sounded like a waste of money at the time and now i wish i bought some randy >> > I've already got quite a collection of Dr Demento LP's (remember them?) > and CD's. Article: 328177 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: EBay on Christmas Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 21:38:47 -0800 Message-ID: <15065-43AF81E7-321@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> References: >From Mark O.: >We need to take back our country from >the religious right if we want to be lead >in a righteous and straightforward >manner, as we were when we were >founded. Problem is, there are no Statesmen any more, only career political hacks. The only faction waiting to "take the country back from the religious right" is the leftist cabal of avowed globalists who will strip our military bare, open our borders even wider, and sell us out in a heartbeat. Look at the raghead takeover of france. Sad to say, the right wing is currently the best of a bad bargain and the only hope of maintaining some semblance of national sovereignty. Where are the Statesmen? If ever we needed the wisdom and resolve of our irreligious Founders, of statesmen the likes of Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt, we need it now. Bill(oc) Article: 328178 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Albert Aerts" Subject: Website Update ! Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 13:37:07 +0100 Message-ID: <43afe3ea$0$20585$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be> "The Aerts Family" homepage has been updated. 8 Radios were added to the "Antique Radio" section. Itax 365 (1936) Bellebrune 639 (1939) Radiobell Standard (1950) SBR 821A (1950) Blaupunkt F510WH (1951) Zenith H625 (1951) Tesla 405U (1952) Philips L4X00T (1960) Happy Viewing ! www.aerts.nu Article: 328179 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: OT Re: EBay on Christmas Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 04:35:18 -0800 Message-ID: <8750-43AFE386-391@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> References: >From Mark O.: >With a Dem you have SOME chance of >some good things getting done, even if >you think they are wasteful. With the >Reps, you have LITTLE chance of it, ... >Pick your evil, and vote. To an 'outside observer' of the political process, the whole issue can all be boiled down in a nutshell, thusly: The Dems in their heart of hearts, DO want good. But their interpretation of good is a "level playing field" on the world stage. To that end, their agenda tends toward abolishment of national soverignety, stripping away of the military, elimination of geographic borders and linguistic identity. Can you say "balkanization"? In contrast, despite the Reps' host of perveived evils, their version of good is to preserve *our* national identity and sovereignty on the world stage (which is strangely at odds with the current administration's love affair with Mexico and non-enforcement of border control). >OK, back to on topic stuff for me.... its >been fun, and enlightening. Ditto, for sure. Bill(oc) Article: 328180 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: EBay on Christmas Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 06:50:23 -0800 Message-ID: <23158-43B0032F-67@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: >From Carter,=A0K8VT: >Look at all this "outsourcing" that the >current (Republican) administration >publicly stated is "good for the country". >Isn't the outsourcing "globalist"? Hasn't >outsourcing already "sold us out"? Does >that mean the Republicans are your >"leftist cabal of avowed globalists"? You're absolutely right, when the 'big picture' is broken down and examined in finer detail. Extremely "leftist" policies are being practiced under the elephant's umbrella such as you cite, as well as the border-control issue, where Bush appears to be trying to "out-Clinton Clinton". It might also be worthwhile to ask why outsourcing is happening.. and see if it's not related to ever-tightening OSHA and environmental regs and escalating employee wage/benefits requirements, to the point where a company has no choice but to fold.. or outsource. And which "wing" is responsible for imposing those ever-tightening rules and regs? Bill(oc) Article: 328181 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" Subject: High priced Capehart speakers on eBay. ;o) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:37:59 GMT I understand how supply/demand and cult-like status can drive up prices beyond rationality, and we see this often with Capehart speakers on eBay. But for me, I don't want to pay those prices. I find what's pictured in this eBay speaker listing more to my liking: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7377117634 ;o) jim menning Article: 328182 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: High priced Capehart speakers on eBay. ;o) References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:03:01 GMT jim menning wrote: > I find what's pictured in this eBay speaker listing more to my liking: Nice grill...very transparent. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328183 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: secret santa came! References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 09:38:51 -0700 Nice nice nice! I'm so jealous. But tell me again about the Crystal "Battery"? Bill Jeffrey ========================== Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > It wasn't santa, but it was my wife. She bid on eBay and bought me > a Marconiphone Crystal set. I got that tonight. Oh boy! Another > project to work on. ;-) > > > > > Originally, she was bidding on a 1956 Motorola test set.... Boy, > did I get an ear full when I eSniped it out from under her. Oopsies. > > Alright, who's got information and a schematic for this? Somebody, > probably related to Tim Mullen, converted it to some quack medical > device. How ever the box and instructions in the lid are in good > shape. Looks like I'm going to have to do an Exray job on it now. > > Jeff > > > Article: 328184 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: The 50 Greatest Gadgets of the Past 50 Years References: <1135572942.054163.269980@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 10:03:34 -0700 Nice list! I was part of the HT-220 engineering design team (see #42) in the late 60's. What a nice little 2-way radio that was! Bill Jeffrey ========================== Kim_Jong_Il@volcanomail.com wrote: > > http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/20051224/tc_pcworld/123950 > > The original Regency TR-1 is on the list, as is the Zenith Space > Command remote control. William Sommerwerck will approve of the SX-70. > My Timex/Sinclair 1000 is number 47. > Article: 328185 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: <2mluq15tree0d294ga3pa763ncm88a9n5b@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Magic Brain 9K2 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:18:49 GMT Mark Oppat wrote: > the "Magic Brain" is nothing but an overblown advertising gimmick... > its actually unclear what they are talking about specifically , I > think it was the AVC circuit, but nevermind, there is a great big > sticker on the tuner to tell you its there, whatever it might be! From: http://www.radioblvd.com/ConsolePhoto.htm : There was the Magic Brain, a circuit that featured individual coils for each stage and frequency range in a separate floating chassis for the receiver front-end. ...seems that the brain had a second version, look at bottom: http://www.radiophile.com/rcat10-1.htm I suppose it's something like the tuning units used by the Italian Geloso in many commercial and professional receivers from the late '30 to the '60. They were build from 2 to 6 bands, the professional ones had built in sockets for RF and Mixer tubes. Here an example of one destinated to professional receivers, note trimmers for antenna, oscillator and HF. http://www.junkradios.com/public/1.jpg http://www.junkradios.com/public/2.jpg http://www.junkradios.com/public/3.jpg The following shows the schematic of a similar tuning unit with full coverage from 10 to 580 meters and phono input: http://www.junkradios.com/public/2615b.pdf Full radio schematic here: http://www.junkradios.com/public/G4-218.pdf This is an example of a popular radio sold as a kit, it uses a 3 bands tuning unit: http://www.junkradios.com/public/g103.pdf -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 328186 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: Question: Regeneration References: <1135537295.846807.140740@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 12:27:03 -0500 shoppa@trailing-edge.com wrote: > Bill wrote: > >>Daniele wrote: >> >> >>>After having seen on ebay the use of what seems to be >>>a 1625 (like item 5844223315), i was asking me >>>[Using other tubes] >> >>The question on this offering is "Find the Lead to the Plate" and "How >>Does a 12V Wall Wart make it Work?" > > > Maybe they use the screen grid as the plate? Lord knows they don't have > enough volts to use the screen grid as a screen grid... > > The text accompanying the auction has some very strange technical > claims that are so nonsensical that not only are they not right, they > "aren't even wrong". > > I don't think you'll get a lot of gain at 12V but it must oscillate, > and I guess that makes a regenerative receiver... > > In response to Danielle, with a radio like this it's not a matter of > making it work better, but it's just a wonder that it works at all! If > you want a decent regenerative receiver, just Google for the term and > build one . Or look for any the bazillions of three-tube units made > over the years (Knight Space Spanner, Lafayette Explor-Air, Heath GR-81 > etc.) They're simple and fun radios, I had a Space Spanner when I was a > kid. > > Let's see, a Space Spanner was like $16 when new 50 years ago. Correct > for inflation and that's like in the low hundred $ today, wow! > > Tim. > Lindsay books (www.lindsaybks.com) has a few books on regenerative receiver tech and plans. I built the "Twinplex" single tube (dual triode) using a type 19 tube, but ANY dual triode will work. He shows an other example using a 6SL7GT (12AT7 would be fine). The twinplex runs off 3v and 90v batteries (I used 2 "D" cells in series and 10 9V batteries (2 for $1 at the 99cent store, Panasonic brand no less!). With an ancient pair of 2K ohm phones this radio pulls in just about everything! (It's overloaded by Radio Marti which I'm "lucky" to be within 100 miles of their GIGIWATT transmitter aimed at Uncle Fidel). Article: 328187 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: <1135467616.728074.274870@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1135618172.762316.128750@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wanted: 1961 Schaub-Lorenz schematic Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:46:30 GMT Kenny wrote: > Try looking it up on radiomuseum.org. It's a source of mainly European > sets. > Ken The 38255 seems to be an export type of the 38250, Erb's site it's missing 38250s schematic. The nearest schematic seems to be the 38550. -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 328188 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: EBay on Christmas References: <_Tfrf.32059$Mi5.18290@dukeread07> <23157-43AF3257-385@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> <1135606166.178861.197550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:15:48 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote: > Being a Master Mason myself (big surprize huh), I need to point out > that the guide for the Masonic Lodge is the Holy Bible. Nearly all our > founding fathers were Masons. Masonry in that time was a way of life > rather than a club. Hate to disappoint you atheists out there, but they > were believers. You should probably take a closer look at things Eddie. The founding fathers were NOT atheists. They were Deists. There's HUGE difference. Unless of course, you can't accept anyone outside your own narrow views of religion. By the way, from the Masonic FAQ: http://web.mit.edu/dryfoo/www/Masonry/Misc/FAQ.html > Freemasonry (or simply, Masonry) is a fraternal order whose basic tenets > are brotherly love, relief (philanthropy), and truth. We strive to enjoy > the company of our brother Masons, assist them in times of personal > trouble, and reinforce essential moral values. There is an old adage > that Masonry "takes good men and makes them better", which is our goal. > > It has often been observed that men are the products of everything they > come into contact with during their lifetime. Masonry offers a man an > opportunity to come into regular, enjoyable contact with men of good > character, thus reinforcing his own personal moral development. Of > course, Masonry is also meant to be enjoyed by its membership, so the > order should not be viewed simply as a philosophical club, but rather a > vibrant fellowship of men who seek to enjoy each other's company, a > fraternity. > > To maintain this fraternity, discussion of religion and politics within > the Lodge is forbidden, as these subjects are those that have often > divided men in the past. Masons cover the spectrum of both religious > and political beliefs and encourages a man to be religious without > advocating a particular religion, and to be active in his community > without advocating a particular medium of political expression. The use of the bible is symbolic as a anchor of your faith. Not a specific choice of faith. For what it's worth, they could just have easily used a Qur'an or Torah. But considering that the mainstream religion of white Europeans is Christianity, the bible serves a purpose as something that is "not to be taken lightly" for a majority of people. (Note: American courts still have you place you hand on a bible and swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. The implication being that it carries more weight than swearing to your copy of USA Today.) Additionally: > > Masonry is not a religion "by the definitions most people use. Religion, > as the term is commonly used, implies several things: a plan for salvation > or path by which one reaches the after-life; a theology which attempts to > describe the nature of God; and the description of ways or practices by > which a man or woman may seek to communicate with God. Masonry does none > of those things. We offer no plan of salvation. With the exception of > saying that He is a loving Father who desires only good for His children, > we make no effort to describe the nature of God. And while we open and > close our meetings with prayer, and we teach that no man should ever begin > any important undertaking without first seeking the guidance of God, we > never tell a man how he should pray or for what he should pray. Instead, > we tell him that he must find the answers to these great questions in his > own faith, in his church or synagogue or other house of worship. We urge > men not to neglect their spiritual development and to be faithful in the > practice of their religion. As the Grand Lodge of England wrote in > 'Freemasonry and Religion', 'Freemasonry is far from indifferent to > religion. Without interfering in religious practice, it expects each > member to follow his own faith, and to place above all other duties his > duty to God by whatever name He is known.' Masonry itself makes only a > simple religious demand on a man--he must believe that he has an immortal > soul and he must believe in God. No atheist can be a Mason." (Dr. Jim > Tresner, 33rd degree) > > "Freemasonry has no dogma or theology. It teaches that it is important > for every man to have a religion of his choice and to be faithful to it. > A good Mason is made even more faithful to the tenets of his faith by > membership." (Rev. Norman Vincent Peale, who was also a Mason) There you have it. Deism is quiet acceptable in the Masonic scheme of things. Carping about other's beliefs is not. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328189 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43B0341C.4010107@socal.rr.com> From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: secret santa came! References: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:19:13 GMT Bill Jeffrey wrote: > Nice nice nice! I'm so jealous. But tell me again about the Crystal > "Battery"? It's going to take a while to figure out. Somebody gutted it. All that's left of the original is the box with the instructions in the lid. LIke I said, this is going to be an Exray project to restore back to a crystal receiver and not it's current incarnation as a quack medical device. It does have a interesting buzzer type transformer with a sliding core. At 4.5 volts DC, you get a damped oscillation of about 25 KHz and 400 Volts AC on the optput terminals. Yes, it's an EYE opener. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328190 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: secret santa came! Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 10:19:37 -0800 Message-ID: <12606-43B03439-496@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> References: >From Bill J.: >..tell me again about the Crystal >"Battery"? Just takin' a SWAG at it, some xtal sets incorporated a buzzer, which was used to generate RF hash to aid in finding the best 'hot spots' on the crystal. Maybe this is a buzzer battery(?). Bill(oc) Article: 328191 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: secret santa came! References: <12606-43B03439-496@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:46:10 GMT Bill Sheppard wrote: > From Bill J.: > > >>..tell me again about the Crystal >>"Battery"? > > > Just takin' a SWAG at it, some xtal sets incorporated a buzzer, which > was used to generate RF hash to aid in finding the best 'hot spots' on > the crystal. Maybe this is a buzzer battery(?). That's jogs a brain cell. I think that's it. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328192 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: High priced Capehart speakers on eBay. ;o) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 14:00:38 -0500 "jim menning" wrote in message news:r7Urf.9952$7S.2685@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... >I understand how supply/demand and cult-like status can drive up prices >beyond rationality, and we see this often with Capehart speakers on eBay. Those are Weber speakers, not Capehart. Where do you see Capehart in the listing ? Syl Article: 328193 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Philco "Special" Capacitor From: Darrell Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 19:07:41 GMT I'm working on a Philco 49-900 and it has a 0.2uF 400 volt capacitor that is marked "Special". Is there really anything special about it, or will anything work? Darrell Article: 328194 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Philco "Special" Capacitor References: Message-ID: <%LXrf.6405$pE4.2640@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 19:46:03 GMT Does it connect to the chassis? I think it's one of their self- resonant capacitors. Does it have several turns of wire wrapped around it? Or is it one of their truely odd, er ah, special ones with the three leads? Jeff Darrell wrote: > I'm working on a Philco 49-900 and it has a 0.2uF 400 volt capacitor that > is marked "Special". Is there really anything special about it, or will > anything work? > > Darrell -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328195 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" Subject: Hallicrafters S-53 knob? Message-ID: <_EXrf.2864$l87.90650@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:06:41 -0330 I've either mislaid (although have vague memory of it perhaps getting broken years ago, trying to loosen the hex headed fastening screw) one of the smaller knobs, RF gain, Vol etc., band change of a Hallicrafters S-53, finally, just repaired. Is there any chance anyone would have a spare? Or know a source? Knobs are about one inch diam. and have a 'serrated/many ridged' outer surface. I've got one, or maybe two?, spare larger ones; that appear to be tuning knobs for the lesser (S38D/S53) Hallicrafters or very close equivalent. At least one has the inside ring which is shown in one picture of 'The original S-38', which would be willing to swap. For example my mid 1950s? S-53A has two of these larger knobs, with the silver inserts, for tuning and bandspread on the upper left and right of the front panel; I suppose could put one of my larger spares on say the band change; but being on the bottom it wouldn't match with the others knobs on that row or look right! Seasons greetings. Terry Article: 328196 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: High priced Capehart speakers on eBay. ;o) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:46:28 -0500 "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:VuUrf.6384$pE4.597@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > jim menning wrote: > > I find what's pictured in this eBay speaker listing more to my liking: > > Nice grill...very transparent. > > Jeff > NIce bumpers too.... And the Headlights ain't too shabby! Article: 328197 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1135572942.054163.269980@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1135626893.267061.31210@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: The 50 Greatest Gadgets of the Past 50 Years Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:01:43 -0500 that was the MP500; which was a glorified Handicom portable in disguise. The top of the Handicom was fitted to a special carry case that used utilized two standard zinc 6-volt latern batteries for power. Railroads ordered latern batteries by the tons for the train crews. Pete wrote in message news:1135626893.267061.31210@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Railroads used a lunchbox-style handi-talkie back then. Was that > designed before or after the HT-220? I'm guessing before, as it was > large enough to contain discreet transistors. And what is the correct > spelling of handi-talkie? > Article: 328198 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Philco "Special" Capacitor From: Darrell References: <%LXrf.6405$pE4.2640@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 21:07:25 GMT It does connect to the chassis. From what I can figure out, there's an RF choke built into it, although it just looks like a run of the mill paper capacitor from the outside. I wonder if I can replace it with a discrete capacitor and RF choke? Darrell > Does it connect to the chassis? I think it's one of their self- > resonant capacitors. Does it have several turns of wire wrapped > around it? Or is it one of their truely odd, er ah, special > ones with the three leads? > > Jeff > > Darrell wrote: >> I'm working on a Philco 49-900 and it has a 0.2uF 400 volt capacitor >> that is marked "Special". Is there really anything special about it, >> or will anything work? >> >> Darrell > Article: 328199 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <11qqi7mtancg555@corp.supernews.com> <3Vrrf.9896$7S.2069@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1r6dnfr4utTk3C3eRVn-uQ@comcast.com> Subject: Re: A Merry "Blue" Xmas to All! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 21:12:02 GMT "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:1r6dnfr4utTk3C3eRVn-uQ@comcast.com... > Most long distance is only about 7c/min today. So if you spent 2 solid > hours on the phone, that is $14. My rates are less than half that. But that's not the issue. > Lots of folks here easily spend that > driving around to places. I think if you spent 4 solid hours on the phone, > you wouldnt miss the $28 and you would have so many leads to stuff you would > never get to them all. Why? because if you do it right its an non linear > function. You call one person, and say you are looking for thus and such, > if they dont have it, do they know anyone who might? Well, Charlie says try > Tom and Dave. Tom and Dave each give you 3 more names, and on it goes. > Many of the leads you might get are collectors who dont advertise ever. You missed the point of my first post. The items I had wanted that were advertised were presold. Period. I don't need lessons on networking phone calls. That has nothing to do with the issue I had. I can do a lot more productive networking talking with friends, or people at radio meets, or on the internet. If you want to spend countless hours chasing elusive prey, then you must not be as busy as you claim. I won't make myself a pest like that. If you claim the the ARC should be used as a resource to start networking, you're dealing with the same very small pool of advertisers, that advertise repeatedly month after month after month. If they are all as old and lonely as you make them sound, then you can spend all your time talking with them, I've got better things to do with my time. jim menning Article: 328200 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: Philco "Special" Capacitor Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 21:19:06 GMT Go see my experience with a similar capacitor. There are also links to the discussions that contributed to my positive results. http://www.ppinyot.com/Bulova/bulova.htm under Electronic Restoration. I hope my experiences can help you. Also See Ron Ramirez site at http://www.philcorepairbench.com/tips/svctip37.htm !!! Good Luck, Paul P. "Darrell" wrote in message news:Xns97388592269BDnospamnospamcom@207.69.189.191... > I'm working on a Philco 49-900 and it has a 0.2uF 400 volt capacitor that > is marked "Special". Is there really anything special about it, or will > anything work? > > Darrell Article: 328201 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Rick Dasher Subject: FA: Overpriced Atwater Kent 80 Cathedral Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 16:28:28 -0500 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6591405703 It looks like the tube shield that is visible in the photo is not original or did they not use the gold shields on this model? I would think for a premium price like that, the finish and chassis would be premium. Just my $0.02. Rick Dasher Zenith G500 TO Zenith 11S474 Philco 38-3 Philco 41-280 RCA 111K Atwater Kent 206 Article: 328202 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: A bit OT - Looking for a dial cord diagram Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 21:33:33 GMT A fellow ham is looking for a dial cord stringing diagram for a Realistic Stereo receiver model STA-14a. Can any one help out? Thanks in advance, Paul. Article: 328203 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Carter, K8VT" Subject: Audio Phoolery Runs Amok!!! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 21:36:36 GMT A friend of mine saw this on eBay and sent it to me. I thought some of you might appreciate it... > IN STOCK FOR IMMEDIATE SHIPMENT.$50 gives you $1,000 worth of > improvement! This version of the Wiremold AC strip will improve any > system or your money back! This model is not available from all > Wiremold dealers. This strip has nine hospital-grade sockets > hardwired together; however, unlike the power strips available at > hardware stores, there is no circuit breaker, noise filter, light, > switch or fuse. Any one of these items will drastically reduce the > system's musical performance. The Wiremold strip is the only strip > that is free of these performance-robbing items, while providing a > suitable number of outlets for even the largest music systems. Cord > is 6 feet. The order in which the components are plugged into the > strip is critical. If you plug the power amplifier into the strip > closest to the end where the strip power cord enters, and work your > way back to the source component, you will get a much better sound. No vested interest...but if you want to read the rest, it is auction 5844494897. Remember, watch out for the order you plug your equipment in and beware of those performance robbing switches... :-) Article: 328204 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:40:20 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Philco "Special" Capacitor References: <%LXrf.6405$pE4.2640@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Darrell wrote: > I wonder if I can replace it with a discrete capacitor and RF choke? > > Darrell A new, modern cap alone will work fine. They did it that way in an effort to make the bypass cap more efficient at the IF freq. Old rolled paper caps had a fair amount of inductance and the idea came up to make it self-resonant at the freq where they wanted it to be self-resonant rather than where it just so happened to fall. Its not an issue with modern caps. Paul's explanation is very good. Typically one has no issues replacing these things but sometimes "things come up" and his experience isn't atypical. The suggestion about it being a trap for 455kc ingress is totally wrong, though. If you want to trap ingress you do it at the input, not between the b-minus line and chassis. Something else I'll add. A recent Philco project of mine gave me a terrible fit with IF alignment. To make a long story short I kept missing the 455kc peak because of all the squawling and carrying on the set was doing. Leaving the 'special' cap in place seemed to minimize this and I put it back in. After I got everything aligned properly there was zero difference between the special cap and a new cap. -Bill Article: 328205 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:06:22 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Hallicrafters S-53 knob? References: <_EXrf.2864$l87.90650@news20.bellglobal.com> Message-ID: gb wrote: > > I thought I saw an eBay auction for new reproduction knobs for > Hallicrafters, if I see it again - will post information. > > w9gb I believe Larry Bordonaro still makes these, but without the silver ring. He does high quality work and as a consequence the brand new knob will stand out like a sore thumb compared to the old ones. Good option for when you need a whole set, though. -Bill Article: 328206 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Philco "Special" Capacitor From: Darrell References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:14:24 GMT Thanks to all for their help. It looks like I should be able to replace it with a normal capacitor. Darrell Article: 328207 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Overpriced Atwater Kent 80 Cathedral Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:22:28 -0500 "Rick Dasher" wrote in message news:qon0r1pbh2ucls3knhbr4066svag0vvtsi@4ax.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6591405703 > > It looks like the tube shield that is visible in the photo is not > original or did they not use the gold shields on this model? Pukey green color, IIRC > I would think for a premium price like that, the finish and chassis > would be premium. For the current price, it is a steal. The BIY is a bit steep, but it is still a very desirable cathedral. Pete > Just my $0.02. > > Rick Dasher > Zenith G500 TO > Zenith 11S474 > Philco 38-3 > Philco 41-280 > RCA 111K > Atwater Kent 206 Article: 328208 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Audio Phoolery Runs Amok!!! Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:29:50 -0700 Message-ID: References: haha. thats his low end model. check this one that was posted a week or so ago... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5843991947 same guy. and i still love how wiring the outlets in parallel is a 'feature' rofl. randy "Carter, K8VT" wrote in message news:EnZrf.36991$BZ5.11012@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... >A friend of mine saw this on eBay and sent it to me. I thought some of you >might appreciate it... > > >> IN STOCK FOR IMMEDIATE SHIPMENT.$50 gives you $1,000 worth of >> improvement! This version of the Wiremold AC strip will improve any >> system or your money back! This model is not available from all >> Wiremold dealers. This strip has nine hospital-grade sockets >> hardwired together; however, unlike the power strips available at >> hardware stores, there is no circuit breaker, noise filter, light, >> switch or fuse. Any one of these items will drastically reduce the >> system's musical performance. The Wiremold strip is the only strip >> that is free of these performance-robbing items, while providing a >> suitable number of outlets for even the largest music systems. Cord >> is 6 feet. The order in which the components are plugged into the >> strip is critical. If you plug the power amplifier into the strip >> closest to the end where the strip power cord enters, and work your >> way back to the source component, you will get a much better sound. > > > > No vested interest...but if you want to read the rest, it is auction > 5844494897. > > Remember, watch out for the order you plug your equipment in and beware of > those performance robbing switches... :-) Article: 328209 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: Subject: Re: Audio Phoolery Runs Amok!!! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:41:25 GMT Check the thread "Cryogenic Tubes Meet Super Extension Cords" from last week. There are several of these sellers and claims out there. Even in the UK. They never explain how these wonder boxes clean up the rotten AC that comes out of the outlet you plug them into. What about old junction boxes? Hardware store (or worse) wall outlets? The twisted and capped wires, perhaps aluminum? The splices and joints at the pole, and inlet cable, the contacts at the circuit breakers, 50-year-old transformers, etc. Not to mention whatever else is on the trunk - lights, appliances, heaters, digital gadgets with noisy switching power supplies, motors, tools, hairdryers, etc., etc. These must be wonderful outlet boxes if they cure all that in the last 10 feet. A bargain at twice the price if it worked. Ray "Carter, K8VT" wrote in message news:EnZrf.36991$BZ5.11012@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... >A friend of mine saw this on eBay and sent it to me. I thought some of you >might appreciate it... > > >> IN STOCK FOR IMMEDIATE SHIPMENT.$50 gives you $1,000 worth of >> improvement! This version of the Wiremold AC strip will improve any >> system or your money back! This model is not available from all >> Wiremold dealers. This strip has nine hospital-grade sockets >> hardwired together; however, unlike the power strips available at >> hardware stores, there is no circuit breaker, noise filter, light, >> switch or fuse. Any one of these items will drastically reduce the >> system's musical performance. The Wiremold strip is the only strip >> that is free of these performance-robbing items, while providing a >> suitable number of outlets for even the largest music systems. Cord >> is 6 feet. The order in which the components are plugged into the >> strip is critical. If you plug the power amplifier into the strip >> closest to the end where the strip power cord enters, and work your >> way back to the source component, you will get a much better sound. > > > > No vested interest...but if you want to read the rest, it is auction > 5844494897. > > Remember, watch out for the order you plug your equipment in and beware of > those performance robbing switches... :-) Article: 328210 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Audio Phoolery Runs Amok!!! References: Message-ID: <5o_rf.14979$Ou3.10355@dukeread09> Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:45:07 -0500 Boy, this guy needs a basic electricity education. He wrote...(electricity does not flow effeciently around sharp corners and bends). . xrongor wrote: > haha. thats his low end model. check this one that was posted a week or so > ago... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5843991947 > same guy. > > and i still love how wiring the outlets in parallel is a 'feature' rofl. > > randy > > "Carter, K8VT" wrote in message > news:EnZrf.36991$BZ5.11012@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... > >>A friend of mine saw this on eBay and sent it to me. I thought some of you >>might appreciate it... >> >> >> >>>IN STOCK FOR IMMEDIATE SHIPMENT.$50 gives you $1,000 worth of >>>improvement! This version of the Wiremold AC strip will improve any >>>system or your money back! This model is not available from all >>>Wiremold dealers. This strip has nine hospital-grade sockets >>>hardwired together; however, unlike the power strips available at >>>hardware stores, there is no circuit breaker, noise filter, light, >>>switch or fuse. Any one of these items will drastically reduce the >>>system's musical performance. The Wiremold strip is the only strip >>>that is free of these performance-robbing items, while providing a >>>suitable number of outlets for even the largest music systems. Cord >>>is 6 feet. The order in which the components are plugged into the >>>strip is critical. If you plug the power amplifier into the strip >>>closest to the end where the strip power cord enters, and work your >>>way back to the source component, you will get a much better sound. >> >> >> >>No vested interest...but if you want to read the rest, it is auction >>5844494897. >> >>Remember, watch out for the order you plug your equipment in and beware of >>those performance robbing switches... :-) > > > Article: 328211 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:28:28 GMT Mark Oppat wrote: > code that I have heard is that all new service panels must have a 8' > copper ground rod driven in the earth near the panel (maybe within 6', > I dont recall). You must also bond the cold water pipe in the house > to this. Typically straight down from the service panel. By the way, this is the OMLY ground to the electrical system, and the NEUTRAL is also bonded to the panel ground at this point. > "philsvintageradios" wrote: > >> It ocurred to me that since the ground runs all through the house, >> that using the waterpipe as ground might cause the waterpipe to >> itself radiate some ac hum. This isn't really a problem. Unless, like Larry, you insist on running several kilowatts of RF transmitter in the vicinity. >> I thought a short section of plastic plumbing installed on the main >> line into the house could be used to isolate this ground circut from >> the rest of the plumbing, but I don't know if it would make any >> diffference to the amount of stray interference from AC hum This is a bad idea. Every piece of exposed metal is supposed to be connected to ground. That means pipes which connect to faucets. What you may want to consider doing is repiping the house with copper once you get settled in. As long as you're upgrading the electrical system, put in as a minimum a 200 Amp service panel, with room for at least 24 breakers. Obviously, you're going to replace ALL of the older outlets in the house with current U-ground three wire types. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328212 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: Subject: Re: High priced Capehart speakers on eBay. ;o) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:44:56 GMT Nice Woofers! "jim menning" wrote in message news:r7Urf.9952$7S.2685@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... >I understand how supply/demand and cult-like status can drive up prices >beyond rationality, and we see this often with Capehart speakers on eBay. > > But for me, I don't want to pay those prices. > > I find what's pictured in this eBay speaker listing more to my liking: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7377117634 > > ;o) > > jim menning > > > Article: 328213 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <%LXrf.6405$pE4.2640@tornado.socal.rr.com> Subject: Re: Philco "Special" Capacitor Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:47:48 GMT The suggestion about it being a trap for 455kc ingress is > totally wrong, though. If you want to trap ingress you do it at the > input, not between the b-minus line and chassis. Now that you said it and I gave it more thought I think that reason is bogus too. I will alter the text on the web site. Thanks Bill, Paul. Article: 328214 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Audio Phoolery Runs Amok!!! Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:03:36 -0700 Message-ID: References: so many audiophool salesmen will try and sell you complicated power conditioning gear with all sorts of switches, supressors, conditioners, etc... this guy has gone the entire other way and is basically selling you a metal box with a few outlets in it and some wire and claiming its better. i am not going to go so far as to call the guy a liar or a thief. ive met some of these guys and its like a religion to some of them.... (you can google for a story i told about replacing some guys monster cables with lamp cord without telling him if you want a funny story) but i sure wish i could get ahold of whatever it is he smokes before hearing that 2000$ difference... 350$ an ounce maybe and it comes with the power strip i swear i am getting closer and closer to peddling audiophoolry on ebay... if someone actually buys one of these things i think im going to the dark side for a while. randy "Rune" wrote in message news:pk_rf.18006$Ed.3561@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com... > Check the thread "Cryogenic Tubes Meet Super Extension Cords" from last > week. > > There are several of these sellers and claims out there. Even in the UK. > They never explain how these wonder boxes clean up the rotten AC that > comes out of the outlet you plug them into. > > What about old junction boxes? Hardware store (or worse) wall outlets? The > twisted and capped wires, perhaps aluminum? The splices and joints at the > pole, and inlet cable, the contacts at the circuit breakers, 50-year-old > transformers, etc. > > Not to mention whatever else is on the trunk - lights, appliances, > heaters, digital gadgets with noisy switching power supplies, motors, > tools, hairdryers, etc., etc. > > These must be wonderful outlet boxes if they cure all that in the last 10 > feet. > > A bargain at twice the price if it worked. > > Ray > > "Carter, K8VT" wrote in message > news:EnZrf.36991$BZ5.11012@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... >>A friend of mine saw this on eBay and sent it to me. I thought some of you >>might appreciate it... >> >> >>> IN STOCK FOR IMMEDIATE SHIPMENT.$50 gives you $1,000 worth of >>> improvement! This version of the Wiremold AC strip will improve any >>> system or your money back! This model is not available from all >>> Wiremold dealers. This strip has nine hospital-grade sockets >>> hardwired together; however, unlike the power strips available at >>> hardware stores, there is no circuit breaker, noise filter, light, >>> switch or fuse. Any one of these items will drastically reduce the >>> system's musical performance. The Wiremold strip is the only strip >>> that is free of these performance-robbing items, while providing a >>> suitable number of outlets for even the largest music systems. Cord >>> is 6 feet. The order in which the components are plugged into the >>> strip is critical. If you plug the power amplifier into the strip >>> closest to the end where the strip power cord enters, and work your >>> way back to the source component, you will get a much better sound. >> >> >> >> No vested interest...but if you want to read the rest, it is auction >> 5844494897. >> >> Remember, watch out for the order you plug your equipment in and beware >> of those performance robbing switches... :-) > > Article: 328215 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:15:48 -0700 Message-ID: References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> i think you are reading the code book wrong. afaik, you are NOT allowed to use waterpipes exclusively as a ground connection. anybody replaces any of it with plastic and the whole ground could be shot. someone doesnt put a jumper wire across the inlet and outlet of the hot water heater, shot. put a water meter inline with a dialectric connection, shot. you are however required to tie metal pipes into the electrical ground system. that said, you MUST tie the cold water entry point to the house ground. aside from code, i think you are foolish to rely on the piping to ground your electrical system. just too many unknowns. when i did my house recently, code required not 1 but 2 copper rods spaced about 2' apart. they're cheap. just do it. randy "philsvintageradios" wrote in message news:22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com... > > I am about to rewire an old house. It is built in 1924 and the wiring > needs updating. > The code seems to indicate that the powerbox should use the waterpipe > as a ground. it states that If it is available, this MUST be used as a > ground.(If it isn't available, you can drive a copper rod into the > earth and use that. > > It ocurred to me that since the ground runs all through the house, > that using the waterpipe as ground might cause the waterpipe to itself > radiate some ac hum. > > I thought a short section of plastic plumbing installed on the main > line into the house could be used to isolate this ground circut from > the rest of the plumbing, but I don't know if it would make any > diffference to the amount of stray interference from AC hum > > does my theory "hold water" ? Article: 328216 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:22:34 -0700 Message-ID: References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:MU%rf.8052$hI1.799@tornado.socal.rr.com... > Mark Oppat wrote: >> code that I have heard is that all new service panels must have a 8' >> copper ground rod driven in the earth near the panel (maybe within 6', >> I dont recall). You must also bond the cold water pipe in the house >> to this. > > Typically straight down from the service panel. By the way, this is the > OMLY ground to the electrical system, and the NEUTRAL is also bonded to > the panel ground at this point. i just want to clarify a technical point. normally (assuming somewhat modern electrical system) you have a box outside the house with a meter on it and usually a breaker. im guessing this is what you are calling the service panel, but im not sure which is why i felt compelled to post. that feeds the panel inside your house. it is most correct for the neutral and ground to tie together ONLY at the outside box, running the ground wire to the rod from there. there are other ways you could hook it up that are safe and would work, but why go second best. what you do NOT want to do is have it tied together at both. if you are having new wiring put in, join it only at the box outside the house with the meter on it. randy Article: 328217 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: A bit OT - Looking for a dial cord diagram Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 01:39:29 GMT "Paul P" wrote in message news:NkZrf.1362$7S2.908@trndny09... >A fellow ham is looking for a dial cord stringing diagram for a Realistic > Stereo receiver model STA-14a. Can any one help out? > > Thanks in advance, > Paul. > > You may need to find someone with a set of Sam's MHF (modular hi-fi) manuals. It is covered in volume #68 of that series. jim menning Article: 328218 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Stone" References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 02:30:10 GMT > that said, you MUST tie the cold water entry point to the house ground. > And how do you do that when the cold water pipe feed is made of plastic pipe ? The well is 325 feet deep. Article: 328219 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Audio Phoolery Runs Amok!!! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 02:32:16 GMT Personally I think the best way to provide power to a good audiophile stereo is to use a generator. Of course the generator noise will drown out the sound of the stereo . . . That's the price you pay for quality! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Carter, K8VT" wrote in message news:EnZrf.36991$BZ5.11012@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com... >A friend of mine saw this on eBay and sent it to me. I thought some of you >might appreciate it... > > >> IN STOCK FOR IMMEDIATE SHIPMENT.$50 gives you $1,000 worth of >> improvement! This version of the Wiremold AC strip will improve any >> system or your money back! This model is not available from all >> Wiremold dealers. This strip has nine hospital-grade sockets >> hardwired together; however, unlike the power strips available at >> hardware stores, there is no circuit breaker, noise filter, light, >> switch or fuse. Any one of these items will drastically reduce the >> system's musical performance. The Wiremold strip is the only strip >> that is free of these performance-robbing items, while providing a >> suitable number of outlets for even the largest music systems. Cord >> is 6 feet. The order in which the components are plugged into the >> strip is critical. If you plug the power amplifier into the strip >> closest to the end where the strip power cord enters, and work your >> way back to the source component, you will get a much better sound. > > > > No vested interest...but if you want to read the rest, it is auction > 5844494897. > > Remember, watch out for the order you plug your equipment in and beware of > those performance robbing switches... :-) Article: 328220 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:37:49 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Philco "Special" Capacitor References: <%LXrf.6405$pE4.2640@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Paul P wrote: > The suggestion about it being a trap for 455kc ingress is > >>totally wrong, though. If you want to trap ingress you do it at the >>input, not between the b-minus line and chassis. > > > Now that you said it and I gave it more thought I think that reason is bogus > too. I will alter the text on the web site. > > Thanks Bill, > Paul. > > I think it was an unfortunate choice of terminology on Philco's part that has led to that misconception. It is a 'wave trap' technically speaking but not in the sense that wave traps had been routinely known and utilized for two decades prior. The Philco Service sheet on CHUCK SCHWARK'S site explains the Special Capacitor well, and the basic intent and concept also applies to those earlier ones with the coil wrapped around them. -Bill Article: 328221 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:08:38 -0700 Message-ID: References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> >> that said, you MUST tie the cold water entry point to the house ground. >> > And how do you do that when the cold water pipe feed is made of plastic > pipe ? > The well is 325 feet deep. you dont. randy Article: 328222 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Audio Phoolery Runs Amok!!! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:12:48 -0500 "Carter, K8VT" wrote in message news:EnZrf.36991$ > > is 6 feet. The order in which the components are plugged into the > > strip is critical. If you plug the power amplifier into the strip > > closest to the end where the strip power cord enters, and work your > > way back to the source component, you will get a much better sound. > > And logically progressing, if you plug the amp directly into the wall socket, your "sound" will be even better, and you'll save money besides... Article: 328223 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1135572942.054163.269980@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1135626893.267061.31210@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135647210.675125.163100@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: The 50 Greatest Gadgets of the Past 50 Years Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:21:17 -0500 wrote in message news:1135647210.675125.163100@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> I have pix of trains crews c. 1970 carrying around their radios. I > don't have a website. I'm sure similar pix are online now. > Before the Motorola lunchboxes, they also used WABCO Duophones. They were kind of neat, being first generation solid state, and even had a Collins 15-kHz mechanical filter in the receiver IF. I think I still have one laying around in my "museum" (i.e. cellar). Pete Article: 328224 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jim rozen Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Date: 26 Dec 2005 19:11:44 -0800 Message-ID: References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> In article <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com>, philsvintageradios says... > > >I am about to rewire an old house. It is built in 1924 and the wiring >needs updating. > The code seems to indicate that the powerbox should use the waterpipe >as a ground. it states that If it is available, this MUST be used as a >ground.(If it isn't available, you can drive a copper rod into the >earth and use that. > >It ocurred to me that since the ground runs all through the house, >that using the waterpipe as ground might cause the waterpipe to itself >radiate some ac hum. > >I thought a short section of plastic plumbing installed on the main >line into the house could be used to isolate this ground circut from >the rest of the plumbing, but I don't know if it would make any >diffference to the amount of stray interference from AC hum > >does my theory "hold water" ? Honestly I think you should hire a licensed electrician to re-wire the house. JIm -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== Article: 328225 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: EBay on Christmas References: <_Tfrf.32059$Mi5.18290@dukeread07> <23157-43AF3257-385@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> <1135606166.178861.197550@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1135648746.799276.75330@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 03:40:10 GMT Peter Wieck wrote: > Whenever I am faced with this level of rigidity, I ask three questions: > > 1. Where did Cain get his wife? Side note: Grendel, the monster in the epic tale of Beowulf was apparently the son of Cain. "Mother dearest" was shapeless horror. But then, that's 13th century English literature for you. > BTW, Arabs do not wear turbans. Those would be Sikhs. Who are not > Muslims. Politically incorrect explanation: (If you're going to be racist, at least get it right.) Sikh: rag head. Arab: towel head. I was working in Bakersfield in 2001 from August through October. I'd drive back down to Los Angeles on Fridays and drive back on Mondays. In Mettler, there's a small gas station/quicky mart. It is owned/operated by Sikhs. Because of an American tradition of ignorance, (perpetrated by the locals) they had to shave their beards and wear baseball hats (complete with tractor company logos.) Their wives switched to flannel shirts and blue jeans rather than what they usually wore. (Saris I think) Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328226 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Electric phonograph motor needed From: lherault@bu.edu Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 03:44:01 GMT Message-ID: <43b0b7c1$1_5@newsfeed.slurp.net> I have an RCA Victor New Orthophonic "portable" (it can be carried around but runs on AC). It needs a motor. Does anyone have a spare? I'm pretty sure I need the bottom bearing at least. This motor has sintered bronze bearings that are in brass colored housings at each end of the shaft. The bottom one has a black piece of steel, in its end. It runs on 115-120V AC. Thanks, Ron L lherault at bu dot edu Article: 328227 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: A Merry "Blue" Xmas to All! Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 13:15:24 +0900 Message-ID: References: <11qqi7mtancg555@corp.supernews.com> <3Vrrf.9896$7S.2069@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1r6dnfr4utTk3C3eRVn-uQ@comcast.com> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:1r6dnfr4utTk3C3eRVn-uQ@comcast.com... > Most long distance is only about 7c/min today. So if you spent 2 solid > hours on the phone, that is $14. $8.40... > > > > "jim menning" wrote in message > news:3Vrrf.9896$7S.2069@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... >> >> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message >> news:pKidnfy5JeSo2zPenZ2dnUVZ_tWdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> > >> > Uh, Jim, a serious radio finder looks "into" the ads, not "at" them, > if >> > you know what I mean... its a great lead sheet if you want to spend a >> > little time on the phone. >> > >> > BTW, has everyone forgotten the phone is a device that you can used to > call >> > folks directly? Its a really neat thing, and you get to have a real >> > conversation and find out a LOT more than you can by email... >> > >> >> I don't believe I ever used email to respond to an ARC advertisement. >> >> My response clearly stated I knew how to use the phone, and did. I guess > I should >> also count the cost of all the long distance phone calls I wasted because > of the ARC >> ads as another reason why they were disappointing to me. >> >> jim menning >> >> >> > > > Article: 328228 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <11qqi7mtancg555@corp.supernews.com> <3Vrrf.9896$7S.2069@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1r6dnfr4utTk3C3eRVn-uQ@comcast.com> Subject: Re: A Merry "Blue" Xmas to All! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 04:19:36 GMT "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:doqets$8i$1@news2.kornet.net... > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:1r6dnfr4utTk3C3eRVn-uQ@comcast.com... >> >> Most long distance is only about 7c/min today. So if you spent 2 solid >> hours on the phone, that is $14. > > > > $8.40... > I noticed that too, but I didn't know if a "solid hour" was different than a normal hour. ;o) jim menning Article: 328229 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gerald K4NHN" References: <1135474466.116700.193640@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Transoceanic handle Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 04:34:42 GMT Is this what you're looking for? http://cgi.ebay.com/Black-Handle-for-Zenith-Transoceanic-or-Similar_W0QQitemZ6591685993QQcategoryZ7275QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem "mgl" wrote in message news:1135474466.116700.193640@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hi. I'm new to this group. I'm looking for a handle for a Zenith > Transoceanic (1949 vintage radio). It's the plain black plastic one. > Help would be appreciated. Thanks > Article: 328230 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:00:36 -0600 "philsvintageradios" wrote in message news:22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com... > > I am about to rewire an old house. It is built in 1924 and the wiring > needs updating. > The code seems to indicate that the powerbox should use the waterpipe > as a ground. it states that If it is available, this MUST be used as a > ground.(If it isn't available, you can drive a copper rod into the > earth and use that. > > It ocurred to me that since the ground runs all through the house, > that using the waterpipe as ground might cause the waterpipe to itself > radiate some ac hum. > > I thought a short section of plastic plumbing installed on the main > line into the house could be used to isolate this ground circut from > the rest of the plumbing, but I don't know if it would make any > diffference to the amount of stray interference from AC hum > > does my theory "hold water" ? 'Nother thought crosses my mind... be careful about implementing standards from the U.S. and Canada from one place to the other. I think there are differences in codes, although at this moment I can't finger one. There are probably differences from city to city for that matter. But if all else fails, you can consult with the municipal inspector to see what he/she will want and proceed on that. (It would NOT pay to do the job without the subsequent inspection. Cheers, Nelson Article: 328231 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:59:50 -0500 Message-ID: <11r1ii1gvmhoie5@corp.supernews.com> References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> Gary Tayman wrote: > Now -- on the kitchen counter there's an > outlet with a 20 amp breaker, another outlet with a 20 amp breaker Code requires these 2 outlets. A microwave should really be on its own 15 amp. branch. I would at least have an electrician do the service entrance and panel for rewiring an old house. John H. From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Fri Dec 30 23:25:17 EST 2005 Article: 328232 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: Audio Phoolery Runs Amok!!! References: <1135658264.021424.177150@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 17 Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 05:01:33 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com 1135659693 66.65.49.10 (Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:01:33 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:01:33 EST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!news-feed-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:328232 In article <1135658264.021424.177150@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, AuroraOldRadios wrote: > non-magnetic. The outlets are heavy duty industrial grade- whatever > that means. As was said before, how does putting a bandaid on the last An industrial-grade heavy-duty outlet is one that is built out of heavier plastic, shatter-resistant and the metal contacts hold the plugs in tighter and don't lose their "spring action" over the decades. The sockets are built to take abuse and last longer....but they don't conduct any better than a regular 49 cent cheap-o from the big box store (provided you can install one of those cheapies without stripping out the terminal screws). -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 328233 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: The 50 Greatest Gadgets of the Past 50 Years Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 20:56:38 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1135572942.054163.269980@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Bill Jeffrey wrote: > Nice list! I was part of the HT-220 engineering design team (see #42) > in the late 60's. What a nice little 2-way radio that was! > Ah, the HT-220. Back when I first started collecting boatanchors in the late 1970s, quite a number of my ham buddies coveted these radios for use on two meters. Few could afford the $600+ price tag though. How times have changed. I found an HT-220 complete with working NiCad battery sitting on a blanket at a swap for 50 cents about a year ago. It is surplus from the US Geological Survey portion of the Interior Department, and is pretty beat up. Of course, it still works.... -Scott Article: 328234 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: Re: Electric phonograph motor needed Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:37:35 -0800 Message-ID: <74o1r1h14r5cqgcubv1k1te9iusi56c9km@4ax.com> References: <43b0b7c1$1_5@newsfeed.slurp.net> you can buy replacement bearings - look around at bearing supply places. I have a motor listed on my web page, www.wbnoble.com - I don't know if it's the right one for you or not, but you could browse around and look at the picture and see if it might be right. bill On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 03:44:01 GMT, lherault@bu.edu wrote: >I have an RCA Victor New Orthophonic "portable" (it can be carried around >but runs on AC). It needs a motor. Does anyone have a spare? I'm pretty >sure I need the bottom bearing at least. This motor has sintered bronze >bearings that are in brass colored housings at each end of the shaft. The >bottom one has a black piece of steel, in its end. It runs on 115-120V AC. > >Thanks, > >Ron L >lherault at bu dot edu Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com Article: 328235 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: Hammarlund HX-50 transmitter Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 07:33:59 GMT I am restoring a Hammarlund HX-50 for a fellow ham. The BAMA schematic is...quite bad. I am having trouble tracing and verifying the components of the unit. The rest of the manual is rather good in DjVu format. The owner has a reproduction manual on order and we hope it has a better schematic. In the mean time I would like to get started and order caps, resistors, etc. Could a kind soul please email me a copy of the schematic? Also my parts list resistor section starts with R165. There seems to be a missing BAMA page in between pages 43 and 44. Thanks to all, Paul www.ppinyot.com BTW - if you would like a stand alone (not plug in) DjVu application go to: http://www.tuberadio.it/utils.htm It is slick. I have combined many jpgs and gifs into a single file. The resolution is surprisingly good for the overall compressed file size. This newsgroup probably already knows this..... :~) Article: 328236 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 02:13:45 -0700 Message-ID: References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <77mdnZZCgY9lei3eRVn-vw@comcast.com> so somebody tell me this. why is it ok to use 15A outlets on 20A breakers? randy "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:77mdnZZCgY9lei3eRVn-vw@comcast.com... > 150 amps is MORE than enough. What is the problem in many homes is the > DISTRIBUTION of the loads. That is your problem. Its most common > especially in older homes, where extra outlets and stuff were added later, > usually by a home handyman. > I have rewired many older homes and this is the most common problem. > If you add up ALL the actual wattages of your appliances, including the > main > AC unit or window AC units, which are heavy loads, you will find you are > barely close to 100A, or maybe a bit over. But, you never run everything > in > the house at one time. A typical panel in fact has breakers that total up > to 30% or so over the panel's actual rating, for the reason that > everything > is not used at one time. > > Mark Oppat > > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:RV1sf.2851$nu6.2087@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> Mark, >> >> It seems to me the 200 amp breaker box has been a standard for many >> years, >> and many newer homes are using 300 amp boxes. My home was built in 1980 > and >> has a 200 amp box. It appears adequate for my use, except for a couple >> of >> things. First, I have a microwave oven that mounts above the range. > These >> things got populat just after this house was built, so originally it just >> had a hood with light and fan. Whatever, it is on a 15 amp breaker, and > it >> seems half the house is on this same 15 amp breaker. My "shop" conplete >> with lights, computer, and test equipment, the garage, the family room, > the >> dining room light, and the living room. If my wife is cooking dinner and >> the computer and lights are on, I find myself getting a flashlight and > going >> outside to reset the breaker. Now -- on the kitchen counter there's an >> outlet with a 20 amp breaker, another outlet with a 20 amp breaker, and >> in >> the dining room there's an outlet with a 20 amp breaker. I suppose > they're >> thinking that a microwave can go into one, a portable oven into another, > and >> a serious bunwarmer into yet another. Someday when I get energetic I'll >> t > ry >> and run another outlet behind the microwave from one of the kitchen > outlets. >> >> The other problem is an air compressor in the garage. It pulls some >> current, and is on the same breaker as -- you guessed it -- the rest of > the >> house. Wiring a new outlet for this may be tough; it is on an outside > wall, >> on the opposite side of the house from the breaker box. >> >> Now, with a collection of old radios, if they were to be turned on all at >> the same time . . . are you sure 150 amps is enough? >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> >> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message >> news:jf-dnaNxKPE7Oy3eRVn-og@comcast.com... >> > around here its rare to have any outside disconnect unless the service >> > panel >> > (breaker box) is more than 3' from where the mains cable enters into >> > the >> > home. In that case, an outside disconnect is required. >> > >> > I dont recommend 200A panels. Its overkill. 100 to 150A is plenty >> > for >> > any >> > normal home, but you want to make sure you have plenty of breaker slots >> > for >> > your needs. >> > >> > If you have a good size in -home shop, 200A might be a good idea. >> > >> > Mark Oppat >> > >> > >> > "xrongor" wrote in message >> > news:doq4sd$f4vj$1@news3.infoave.net... >> >> >> >> "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message >> >> news:MU%rf.8052$hI1.799@tornado.socal.rr.com... >> >> > Mark Oppat wrote: >> >> >> code that I have heard is that all new service panels must have a >> >> >> 8' >> >> >> copper ground rod driven in the earth near the panel (maybe within > 6', >> >> >> I dont recall). You must also bond the cold water pipe in the >> >> >> house >> >> >> to this. >> >> > >> >> > Typically straight down from the service panel. By the way, this is > the >> >> > OMLY ground to the electrical system, and the NEUTRAL is also bonded > to >> >> > the panel ground at this point. >> >> >> >> i just want to clarify a technical point. normally (assuming somewhat >> >> modern electrical system) you have a box outside the house with a >> >> meter >> >> on >> >> it and usually a breaker. im guessing this is what you are calling >> >> the >> >> service panel, but im not sure which is why i felt compelled to post. >> > that >> >> feeds the panel inside your house. >> >> >> >> it is most correct for the neutral and ground to tie together ONLY at > the >> >> outside box, running the ground wire to the rod from there. there are >> > other >> >> ways you could hook it up that are safe and would work, but why go > second >> >> best. what you do NOT want to do is have it tied together at both. >> >> >> >> if you are having new wiring put in, join it only at the box outside > the >> >> house with the meter on it. >> >> >> >> randy >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > Article: 328237 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 02:17:47 -0700 Message-ID: References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> "GBrown" wrote in message news:Y5idnakRiadOIy3eRVn-gQ@gwi.net... > Ground rods are spaced no less than 6' apart, not 2'. Ground rods are not > copper but are copper clad or they can be galvanized. yeah now that i go look i guess it is about 6'. figured it was obvious you would use proper grounding rods. sorry i didnt list all the chemical formulas. but hey. if you're wiring a house soley based on info you got off a newsgroup on the internet now matter who's the one supplying the info... god help you lol. randy Article: 328238 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Zenith 5S127 spring tension adjustment Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 06:33:02 -0700 Message-ID: <29649-43B1428E-1186@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> References: <1135658163.435370.134870@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> It fits behind the washer on the gear below it Article: 328239 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <77mdnZZCgY9lei3eRVn-vw@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 14:13:44 GMT xrongor wrote: > so somebody tell me this. why is it ok to use 15A outlets on 20A breakers? > > randy Because most appliances etc. don't pull the full 20A. They do make 20A rated U-ground outlets. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328240 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bartley Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> Message-ID: <6icsf.749$Yk2.82074@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 09:34:54 -0500 GBrown wrote: If you have a well, > you don't need to ground to that pipe as 99% are plastic. Just a note : While the water system pipe(s) are likely plastic, the well casing is usually iron and sometimes, depending on how you access the opening, is exposed above ground. If you are using a submersible pump, the pump wiring ground is always bonded to the well casing and also to the house wiring system. cheers Article: 328241 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Secret Santa Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 15:01:29 GMT Christmas is over, so I suppose it's time for everyone to tell us about the Secret Santa gifts you received. Mine was mixed, in more ways than one. I received a box full of parts -- terminal strips, connectors, etc., most of which I can definitely use in the shop. There were also a couple of loop antennas, which is why I asked recently about using a loop with an AMT-3000 transmitter. (The answer by the way is to make a loop using the existing wire, and retuning). Also in the box was a Sencore TF-46 Super Cricket. This is one of those pieces of test equipment that I hadn't paid attention to till now -- an in-circuit transistor tester. Wow, I can really use this, but the question is, is it any good? The batteries leaked, so I removed them, cleaned the contacts, and installed new batteries. Pressing the Battery Test button, the meter moves partway over and sticks. So, I disassembled the tester and cleaned out the meter. With the movement very much improved, I reassembled it. Pressing the Battery Test button, the meter pegged to the left, and then quit entirely. Strange. I marked the wires before removing so as to keep polarity correct, and even if reversed, the current through the movement is the same so it shouldn't open. Still I decided my best bet may be to send it to Sencore and have them fix/calibrate it. A few days later I received a phone call from Sencore. The battery contacts are corroded, they no longer make them, and therefore they can't fix it. Sounds like a real cop-out answer to me. The only other thing I learned is that there definitely is more to the problem than the contacts, but they stopped troubleshooting when they saw the corrosion. I was told that for a $65 troubleshooting fee they would return it. I protested, saying that on their website they claimed they have full support for this product. If they don't have a part, that's one thing, but please don't say you can fix it, tell me you can't, then charge me for not fixing it! So a manager intervened, and I'm getting it back for the price of shipping. I also purchased a manual (which I hope has a schematic). I'd really like to have this, so I'll have to decide my next step. It may be to take a crap shoot and buy one cheap on eBay, and use parts from both to make a good one. This one is actually very clean, and may only need battery contacts and a meter movement. Whatever, I'll certainly keep everyone updated. In any case, I appreciate the gift. A working Super Cricket would be far more value than what any of us can expect. This, just like many of my radio projects, will be one of those things where I'll someday be rewarded for my tinkering. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 328242 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43B16913.C7729E85@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: The 50 Greatest Gadgets of the Past 50 Years References: <1135572942.054163.269980@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1135626893.267061.31210@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135647210.675125.163100@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 16:17:44 GMT Uncle Peter wrote: > > wrote in message > news:1135647210.675125.163100@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >> I have pix of trains crews c. 1970 carrying around their radios. I > > don't have a website. I'm sure similar pix are online now. > > > Before the Motorola lunchboxes, they also used WABCO Duophones. > They were kind of neat, being first generation solid state, and even > had a Collins 15-kHz mechanical filter in the receiver IF. I think I still > have one laying around in my "museum" (i.e. cellar). > > Pete Do you keep your submarine in the "Sub Cellar" ? ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 328243 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43B16A6B.A1B0B5F1@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: A bit OT - Looking for a dial cord diagram References: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 16:23:28 GMT jim menning wrote: > > You may need to find someone with a set of Sam's MHF (modular hi-fi) manuals. It is > covered in volume #68 of that series. > > jim menning I have that one. I'll dig it out and scan it for you. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 328244 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43B17057.4DB773C2@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 16:48:45 GMT Mark Oppat wrote: > > around here its rare to have any outside disconnect unless the service panel > (breaker box) is more than 3' from where the mains cable enters into the > home. In that case, an outside disconnect is required. > > I dont recommend 200A panels. Its overkill. 100 to 150A is plenty for any > normal home, but you want to make sure you have plenty of breaker slots for > your needs. > > If you have a good size in -home shop, 200A might be a good idea. > > Mark Oppat 200 Amp is the standard around here. When i had central air put in five years ago the inspector made the comment that I should replace the 150 Amp service, and hinted that they wouldn't approve the wiring on the Central AC/heat pump /Electric heater. A different inspector did the final, and it passed. I have a question for you, Mark. Why would you WANT to put in a smaller service? At some point in the future you will need to add something. Its cheaper to do it once, and do it right than add on extra breaker boxes. I should know, My property has a total of eight breaker boxes, several of which were added on to provide more circuits. I will be replacing several to eliminate the extra boxes, and to standardize on one brand of breaker, instead of the three non-compatible types I have right now. The cheap bastards who built the place ran a number of circuits around the fence line. The used indoor Romex without conduit, and splice the wire by simply twisting the wires together, and wrapping it with cheap electrical tape. There was horse fencing around the property line, and several of the lines caught fire. The breaker tripped on one, and I caught the second with smoke pouring out of it. I have also had the ground buss bar burn in one 100 Amp box, and one of the "hot" buss bars in another 100 Amp box. that is another reason to use a higher current breaker box. the first one that burnt was outdoors, on a wooden pole so it couldn't do much damage, but the second was in flames when i heard the frying sound of the buss bar burning where it had separated and was arching. It set half the breakers on fire, and was mounted in a wood framed wall, covered with wood paneling. If I hadn't heard it I would have lost my home. I beat the flames out with my bare hands and shut off the main breaker, but the breaker box and most of the breakers were destroyed. If it had been a higher current box it wouldn't have been as easy to fail in this way. It took months to get rid of the odor of burnt bakelite by using commercial odor removal chemicals, and leaving the doors and windows open as much as possible. i still catch faint traces from time to time. I was luck, because I have a separate cottage behind the house that I lived in while I worked to get rid of that stench. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 328245 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <43B16A6B.A1B0B5F1@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: A bit OT - Looking for a dial cord diagram Message-ID: <1jesf.1604$h24.264@trndny05> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 16:52:13 GMT Mike, FANTASTIC. My email is paul at ppinyot dot com. Thanks a bunch. Paul. "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:43B16A6B.A1B0B5F1@earthlink.net... > jim menning wrote: >> >> You may need to find someone with a set of Sam's MHF (modular hi-fi) >> manuals. It is >> covered in volume #68 of that series. >> >> jim menning > > > I have that one. I'll dig it out and scan it for you. > > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 328246 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43B1718E.BC51A76B@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Ot Microsoft IE 6.0 from hell References: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 16:53:56 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: > > > I've been using Firefox. It seems to run a bit cleaner than IE. > > Also, it doesn't use active scripting, one of IE's security-leak > > problems. > > But you can disable active scripting in IE. You can also let "trusted" sites > have full access to all IE features. > > Back in July, when I switched to cable modem, I was hit with all sorts of > malware. After installing various "protective" software products, and > thoroughly _analyzing_ what was going on, I swatted the junk, and it hasn't > come back. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Are you using a hardware firewall between you and the cable modem? > Hint: When you find malware, don't remove it. Instead, make the files > (including graphics and DLLs) non-executable and non-modifyable. This way, > it can't be reinstalled (at least, not in the same directories with the same > file names). Great idea! The next time someone brings me a computer that won't boot, that has over 4000 pieces of spyware, and over 700 viri, worms and trojans I can spent the rest of my life fixing one computer. I'd rather remove the crap, repair the infected system files and install software to protect the computer in the future. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 328247 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43B173C2.70A0046D@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Audio Phoolery Runs Amok!!! References: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:03:20 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > > Personally I think the best way to provide power to a good audiophile stereo > is to use a generator. Of course the generator noise will drown out the > sound of the stereo . . . > > That's the price you pay for quality! > > -- > Gary E. Tayman You would think so, but if you look at the 60 Hz AC waveform from a small generator you'll change your mind. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 328248 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:09:44 -0700 GBrown wrote: > Ground rods are spaced no less than 6' apart, not 2'. Yes, that was true at least as long ago as 30 years, when I wired up my camp (cabin or cottage to you non-Mainers) in mid-Maine. I think the requirement for 2 ground rods in different places is an attempt to find at least some electrical contact with "ground" even in poorly-conductive soils. Boy, was that true in my location! I had to drive rods in more than 20 locations before I found 2 that would admit the rods more than about 18" into the ground. Damned granite boulders ...! > If your using a 200 amp service and trip breakers, either you have a none > balanced situation or to small of wire to do the job. I'm unclear on how "to small of wire" can trip breakers. Undersized conductors have too much resistance, which will reduce load current and may heat up - which is dangerous, of course. But how would it INCREASE current, and thereby pop breakers? Bill Jeffrey Article: 328249 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:19:28 GMT Bill Jeffrey wrote: > I'm unclear on how "to small of wire" can trip breakers. Undersized > conductors have too much resistance, which will reduce load current and > may heat up - which is dangerous, of course. But how would it INCREASE > current, and thereby pop breakers? In the tool repair business, I'd see that all the time. People would by an air compressor and run it on a 50' cord. With the voltage drop in the cord, the motor would see an under voltage situation and draw excessive current and over heat. Air hose is considerably cheaper than extension cords. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328250 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: Secret Santa References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:21:18 -0700 Gary - If you get the manual, and it has a schematic, I hope you'll consider putting one or both on bama. No, I don't have a cricket, but I just generally consider it to be good practice. OK, flame suit on, everyone. Tell me about copyrights from the company that refused to honor their support commitment. Or what the hell, Gary, take the high road and ask Sencore if it is OK to post it in its entirety. Bill Jeffrey ================================== Gary Tayman wrote: > Still I decided my best bet may > be to send it to Sencore and have them fix/calibrate it. > > I also purchased a manual (which I hope has a schematic). Article: 328251 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1135640953.640470.129660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135695874.051676.267890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: crystal detector set, was (Re: Proposed Eico Tone Control Mod) Message-ID: <1Jfsf.35516$Mi5.20733@dukeread07> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 13:27:37 -0500 "John Byrns" wrote in message news:jbyrns-2712051125530001@216-80-74-219.d.enteract.com... > In article <1135695874.051676.267890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, > "pfjw@aol.com" wrote: > for voice and a bit of instrument... maybe. > > Why would the audio bandwidth be restricted to "2Hz"? I am assuming you > meant 2 kHz, not "2 Hz". The audio bandwidth can be anything you want, it > depends only on the loaded Q of the tuned circuits, which is not the same > thing as the coil Q. The J.W.Miller set mentioned in the original post > has a wide audio bandwidth. > > > Regards, > > John Byrns > > > Loaded Q, and the frequency... (Arithmetic selectivity..) Pete Article: 328252 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." Subject: Wanted to Trade: Philco Cathedral Chassis' Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:42:56 GMT I recently acquired a bunch of radios and parts, and among them was a nice Philco 20 cabinet. There was a Philco chassis there too, but unfortunately it is a model 50 and will not quite fit the cabinet. Does anyone out there have a model 20 chassis they'd like to trade for my model 50? Condition isn't important as long as it's intact, and basically restorable, which is what my 50 chassis appears to be. Thanks. Article: 328253 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." Subject: Identifying Catalin Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:46:04 GMT Is there any basic procedure for identifying catalin from plastic? I got a couple of neat-looking radios the other day, I doubt they're really cataling based on my luck, but having never seen a real catalin radio I can't be sure. One cabinet is white with butterscotch swirls, and another is a blue with yellow/green speckles. I think they are both GE and RCA sets, if they were Addison I don't think there'd be any doubt as to what they really are! Thanks for any help. Article: 328254 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Identifying Catalin Message-ID: <%%fsf.10129$7S.7168@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:48:27 GMT "Chris F." wrote in message news:MZfsf.145941$Ph4.4460663@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > Is there any basic procedure for identifying catalin from plastic? I got a > couple of neat-looking radios the other day, I doubt they're really cataling > based on my luck, but having never seen a real catalin radio I can't be > sure. One cabinet is white with butterscotch swirls, and another is a blue > with yellow/green speckles. I think they are both GE and RCA sets, if they > were Addison I don't think there'd be any doubt as to what they really are! > Thanks for any help. > > How about some model numbers and pictures? jim menning Article: 328255 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <4ZWdnQ2idfbmESzeRVn-gw@gwi.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:58:01 GMT GBrown wrote: > In Maine, if you do your own work, on your own house, doesn't need to be > inspected. I should say, "inside work". Outside work can be done by the home > owner and must be inspected by the town before the light company will hook > up. Out her eon the left coast, Los Angeles, for the most part, if you only own ONE home, you can "owner builder". Things must be run through the permit process and be inspected. Smaller things such as adding an outlet, changing sockets etc are usually ignored. Additionally, if you're upgrading a service panel, you need prior authorization from the utility company. Usually just a matter of them saying "Yeah, go ahead and put the meter here." A lot of the homes built in the 50s have the meter in the back yard. If you do an upgrade, they appreciate (require) that you move it to the side of the house accessable to the meter reader. (You can still have the breaker sub panel hidden in your yard if you insist.) Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328256 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 12:23:13 -0700 Message-ID: References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <77mdnZZCgY9lei3eRVn-vw@comcast.com> "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:s_bsf.8116$ka.4976@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > xrongor wrote: > >> so somebody tell me this. why is it ok to use 15A outlets on 20A >> breakers? >> >> randy > > Because most appliances etc. don't pull the full 20A. > > They do make 20A rated U-ground outlets. yes but this makes no sense. you dont use circuit breakers because you are planning for things to 'work'. you use them because you are planning for things to go wrong. i mean, come on. dont you find it odd? the code is so overkill on most things this just seems very out of place. randy Article: 328257 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <77mdnZZCgY9lei3eRVn-vw@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:27:51 GMT xrongor wrote: > yes but this makes no sense. you dont use circuit breakers because you are > planning for things to 'work'. you use them because you are planning for > things to go wrong. > > i mean, come on. dont you find it odd? the code is so overkill on most > things this just seems very out of place. Not at all. Most "outlet" branches have several outlets on them. That like suggesting that ALL lightbulbs have to draw 15 amps. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328258 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 13:40:13 -0700 Message-ID: References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 13:47:18 -0500, GBrown wrote: > Bill: > When voltage drops, current rises. To small of wire will INCREASE > current draw and REDUCE voltage. Breakers trip because of to much current, > not to much voltage. Well, I take that back, there are voltage trip breakers > but I am not getting into that. That's only partially true. For example, if you want a 40W light bulb and you have a 240V power line to run it on (like in Europe and lots of other places), it will draw 0.167A. However, if you have a 120V line, the bulb will draw 0.333A. The catch is that you need different bulbs for the two cases, the first is a 240V bulb and the second is a 120V bulb. If you take a given bulb and reduce the voltage, the current will drop. Reducing the voltage reduces the current for most things: light bulbs, heaters, antique radios, most motors, etc. The main exceptions are electronic devices powered by switching power supplies and mechanical devices powered by induction motors. These do indeed draw more current as the voltage drops (this covers the compressors mentioned in another post). There are devices, mainly metal filament incandescent lamps (the common kind), that have a very high temperature coefficient of resistance. They don't obey Ohms law. Reducing the voltage by a certain percentage will reduce the current by less than you might expect. The heaters and filaments in all common tubes react the same way. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 328259 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:23:17 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Qualitone Loop Antenna References: Message-ID: Nightcreature wrote: > I came across an old Qualitone Loop Antenna for use with early radios. It > consists of 12 full loops around the turnable frame. A lead with a pin plug > comes off at each end of the loop. However there is a push down binding > post in the middle connected to the center of the loop, making three > connections. How is this to be connected to the radio? I have a number of > old TRF units but most have only an antenna and a ground connection. The > only radios accessible at the moment with multiple connectors are a couple > of Scott Allwave 15 units and a large Gilfillan Neutrodyne. The Neutrodyne > is the only one with three posts. > > I have attempted a few things but am curious about the correct connection. Some of the early superhets used three connections to the loop. The local oscillator was injected in the middle. -Bill Article: 328260 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43B1B826.A5730F52@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <43B17057.4DB773C2@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 21:55:11 GMT Mark Oppat wrote: > > Michael, > you describe several unique situations that the average home does not have, > such as horse fencing , externally mounted devices and panels exposed to > weather, etc. > The other failures you mention have nothing to do with loads, they are all > poor or deteriorated equipment. > > I say dont use 200A for two reasons, first is the much larger cost. NOT > just for the panel, but for the extra inspection fee, and especially the > service wire to the panel. Second, if you are upgrading, the utility might > upgrade the line for free, but they have the option not to, and that is what > happened to me a few times. I have 3 100 amp panels at one rental house, > and DTE Energy left the 100a service to the house. They said it was more > than enough based on usage in the home, and they are actually correct. I > had them fix a bad neutral, however. If you had a home shop or special > equipment like yours, they would do the upgrade. > > Mark Oppat The only place you can still install a new 150 amp service around here is in a one bedroom house or detached garage. the electric company wants extra capacity available for future use. Also, the heavier your electrical service the less variation you see in your line voltage. As far as "deteriorated equipment" one box was less than five years old, and the other was barely a year old. They were run too close to their limit. That, along with the high temperatures here in Florida, and that causes a lot of problems. Do whatever you want, but I only want to do the job, ONCE. Personally, I find it amazing the lengths that some people will go to keep from doing something right. So what if it cost a few bucks more? Its about 25% more for a 200 Amp panel If you by a 200 Amp panel package with the circuit breakers, it is about the same price as a 150 amp and buying them separately. Its built out of heavier materials and will last a lot longer. Its false economy to have to keep repairing or updating something. I have a 100 Amp panel in the garage, 100 Amp in the main house, 30 amp in the cottage (and a separate 20 amp box for the water heater), 60 amp for the laundry building and well pump, 60 amp for the central air & electric heat, 20 amp in the tool shed, a 100 amp disconnect outside the house and the main breaker box on the other side of my driveway. Its located there, because they do not want the wires over a driveway. At one time there were two poles and two meters, but they forced the previous owner to remove the pole next to the house and upgrade the other service to handle both loads. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 328261 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <_EXrf.2864$l87.90650@news20.bellglobal.com> Subject: Re: Hallicrafters S-53 knob? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:24:19 -0330 "Terry" had written message news:_EXrf.2864$l87.90650@news20.bellglobal.com... > I've either mislaid (although have vague memory of it perhaps getting > broken years ago, trying to loosen the hex headed fastening screw) one of > the smaller knobs, RF gain, Vol etc., band change of a Hallicrafters > S-53, finally, just repaired. > > Is there any chance anyone would have a spare? Or know a source? > Many thanks inded to those who responded (to the above plea) with suggested sources of a replacement smaller knob for an S-53. Been hoping that the missing one would either turn up, even broken and be repairable. It will no doubt 'appear' a few months after I've finished! Answers much appreciated. Terry From adouglasatgis.net Fri Dec 30 23:25:23 EST 2005 Article: 328262 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:16:26 -0500 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 20 Message-ID: <6ie3r11j5pv1trpiiepo7q52m0b7qai4b3@4ax.com> References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <43B17057.4DB773C2@earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-546.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:328262 Hi, >I dont recommend 200A panels. Its overkill. 100 to 150A is plenty for any >normal home, but you want to make sure you have plenty of breaker slots for >your needs. Ah, Mark, there you go again, thinking for yourself. Naughty, naughty. Some people claim 200A is for "future needs." Trouble is, with the rates increasing, you want to *reduce* your usage, not increase it. Fluorescent lamps and modern refrigerators/freezers will go a long way to doing just that. This house has a 60A entrance. It's not small: five upstairs bedrooms, a barn, all electric appliances (range, washer, dryer, dishwasher, freezer). I run three 2HP motors. I haven't blown a fuse in years. Alan Article: 328263 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Mills" References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <77mdnZZCgY9lei3eRVn-vw@comcast.com> Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 18:06:58 -0500 > > yes but this makes no sense. you dont use circuit breakers because you > are planning for things to 'work'. you use them because you are planning > for things to go wrong. > > i mean, come on. dont you find it odd? the code is so overkill on most > things this just seems very out of place. > > randy > > The breakers are for protecting the wire. Number 12 AWG is rated for 20 amps. The breakers are not intended to protect the appliance. Tom > Article: 328264 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Ot Microsoft IE 6.0 from hell Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 23:51:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In " Uncle Peter" writes: >One small problem remains--when I reboot the machine my connection >shows 2,900 kbps download speed. After a few days, this drops to >about 1,300 kbps. Clearing the browser history, cookies (all options) >doesn't improve the download rate--but rebooting the machine does! A drop in network performace can be due to many, many things. If the machine is loaded to the point where it can no longer pay attention to the TCP/IP stack, things will take a nose dive. Packets will be dropped, re-transmissions will skyrocket, and chances are the router or web server you're talking to will decide to bump your priority. To figure out what's going on with a computer you need two basic tools (think of these as a meter and oscilloscope): a process analyzer that shows what's running, and a packet sniffer to see what's coming and going. At the most basic level I use "top" to see what's going on, and "ethereal" to watch the network. I have no idea what y'all use in the Micro$oft world, but maybe someone else can recommend some trust-worthy tools. If I had to take a flying guess, I'd say somebody's got a memory leak and is chewing up core. This is far more common than it should be, what with all the sloppy programming going on today. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 328265 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Spokesman" References: <1135726594.843230.22440@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT...phase converters Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 23:55:36 GMT "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1135726594.843230.22440@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > what do you know about phase converters? i am looking at a bridgeport > mill that has a 3 phase motor on it. of course i don't have 3 phase. i > have read a little on the net about building my own phase converter. i > appears that using the capacitor method, the motor only generates about > 2/3 of it's rated HP. which would be fine for what i will be using it > for. anybody have any experience with this. do it harm the 3 phase > motor? will it last? > A static (capacitor/transformer) convertor supplies a somewhat off balanced 3 phase power but will work quite well as long as the motor is not heavily loaded. A rotary convertor made from an old motor and capacitors will supply a much better quality of 3 phase power and can be built quite easily if you can find an old motor.. You could also use an electronic invertor with a single phase input and a 3 phase output. This is the easiest way to go but also the most expensive. Article: 328266 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Ot Microsoft IE 6.0 from hell Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 00:04:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4uGdnTmq0Oyf4zHenZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@athenet.net> In "William Sommerwerck" writes: [I said] >> Have you read Bruce Sterling and William Gibson's "The >> Difference Engine"? It's about the information age coming >> to Victorian London via Babbage's machinery. I'm a big fan >> of the steampunk genre, and this one's a pretty decent read. >Wait until you reach the Really Weird sex scene, Never did like waiting. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 328267 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: secret santa came! Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 00:25:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In Jeffrey D Angus writes: >It wasn't santa, but it was my wife. She bid on eBay and bought me >a Marconiphone Crystal set. I got that tonight. Oh boy! Another >project to work on. ;-) > Cool set! >Alright, who's got information and a schematic for this? Somebody, >probably related to Tim Mullen, converted it to some quack medical >device. That was Dr. Emilio Lizardo. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 328268 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: secret santa came! Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 00:28:25 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <43B0341C.4010107@socal.rr.com> In <43B0341C.4010107@socal.rr.com> Jeffrey D Angus writes: >It does have a interesting buzzer type transformer with a sliding >core. At 4.5 volts DC, you get a damped oscillation of about 25 KHz >and 400 Volts AC on the optput terminals. Yes, it's an EYE opener. Ooooooo!!! What happens when you give it rectified line? :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 328269 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Mills" Subject: Anyone recognize this radio? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:46:37 -0500 Does anyone have any knowledge about this radio? The value and why is there two chassis, what is the model number. I can't find anything with the chassis number listed on the picture. I live close by and may be interested. . http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Royalty-of-Radio-By-Kennedy-Works-no-reserve_W0QQitemZ6591197959QQcategoryZ38034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Tom Article: 328270 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:49:46 -0700 Message-ID: References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <77mdnZZCgY9lei3eRVn-vw@comcast.com> "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:XAgsf.8105$hI1.999@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > xrongor wrote: >> yes but this makes no sense. you dont use circuit breakers because you >> are planning for things to 'work'. you use them because you are planning >> for things to go wrong. >> >> i mean, come on. dont you find it odd? the code is so overkill on most >> things this just seems very out of place. > > Not at all. Most "outlet" branches have several outlets on them. > > That like suggesting that ALL lightbulbs have to draw 15 amps. no, its like suggesting that one MIGHT draw 15 amps. one MIGHT draw 20 amps... 90% of the code is about what if scenareos. i dunno, the logic behind putting a 20A outlet on a 20A breaker seems so obvious i cant explain it further. guess im alone on this one lol. randy Article: 328271 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: OT...phase converters References: <1135726594.843230.22440@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 01:13:12 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote: > what do you know about phase converters? i am looking at a bridgeport > mill that has a 3 phase motor on it. of course i don't have 3 phase. Compare the cost of a new bridgeport machine versus a used one. Then decide to factor in the cost of a replacement single phase motor. You'll still come out way ahead. Probably have enough left over to buy a good used X-Y-Z position indicator. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. From adouglasatgis.net Fri Dec 30 23:25:25 EST 2005 Article: 328272 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT...phase converters Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 20:01:43 -0500 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 11 Message-ID: References: <1135726594.843230.22440@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135728166.710419.121800@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-608.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news2 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:328272 Hi, It may be cheaper to find a single-phase motor for the Bridgeport head. Building a rotary converter isn't impossible but does take some time and experimentation. That's what I'm using for my mill, but I didn't have a lot of choice since the original motor is 550V and is not replaceable (two speed, odd frame size). I'm feeding it 480V and it seems to run fine on that. Alan Article: 328273 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43B1E91B.2ECECE82@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <43B17057.4DB773C2@earthlink.net> <6ie3r11j5pv1trpiiepo7q52m0b7qai4b3@4ax.com> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 01:23:47 GMT Alan Douglas wrote: > > Hi, > > >I dont recommend 200A panels. Its overkill. 100 to 150A is plenty for any > >normal home, but you want to make sure you have plenty of breaker slots for > >your needs. > > Ah, Mark, there you go again, thinking for yourself. Naughty, > naughty. > > Some people claim 200A is for "future needs." Trouble is, with > the rates increasing, you want to *reduce* your usage, not increase > it. Fluorescent lamps and modern refrigerators/freezers will go a > long way to doing just that. > > This house has a 60A entrance. It's not small: five upstairs > bedrooms, a barn, all electric appliances (range, washer, dryer, > dishwasher, freezer). I run three 2HP motors. I haven't blown a fuse > in years. > > Alan You would, if you turned it all on at once. That is how the utility company sizes the service. Not for what you use, but for what you could be using. the code also limits the amount of wire in electrical boxes, this is determined by the volume of the box in cubic inches. One thing I've seen lately is that new installations are generally done with a 200 Amp combination box that has the meter mounted in the top of the box and it is pre wired to the main breaker. As far as blowing a fuse, (or tripping a breaker) the last one that I had was when that romex along the fence line shorted out. I ripped out all of the wiring along the fence, and every buried cable that wasn't in use. they don't trip because each circuit is small enough that there is no chance of an overload, unless something fails and draws more than its normal current. I dug up several underground lines and replaced them with new wire, in gray Schedule 80 PVC conduit. I used steel conduit for the lights on the stone gateposts because there is always the chance someone will bump one. My driveway is the last one on a dead end street so a lot of people turn around in the end of my driveway. My electric bill is around $65 (US), year round. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 328274 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rick" References: <1135726594.843230.22440@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT...phase converters Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 01:30:28 GMT "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1135726594.843230.22440@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > what do you know about phase converters? i am looking at a bridgeport > mill that has a 3 phase motor on it. of course i don't have 3 phase. i > have read a little on the net about building my own phase converter. i > appears that using the capacitor method, the motor only generates about > 2/3 of it's rated HP. which would be fine for what i will be using it > for. anybody have any experience with this. do it harm the 3 phase > motor? will it last? > It's a regular topic at rec.crafts.metalworking. Ask there and you'll get everything you need to know about the machine and building a good RPC... Article: 328275 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" Subject: Secret Santa came... Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:41:45 -0600 ...actually, a very busy week or two ago. -and brought me a Telex wireless mic and diversity receiver to match, along with a NIB Channel Master TV antenna matcher. And (how did he know I had a sweet tooth?) a package of "Cows" and "Sugar Babies" candy. So now I can drool all over the hardware while I'm experimenting. There are a couple of possible uses for the mic and matcher I have in mind. Thank you, Secret Santa Nelson Article: 328276 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: OT...phase converters Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 01:49:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1135726594.843230.22440@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> In <1135726594.843230.22440@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> "Eddie Brimer" writes: >what do you know about phase converters? i am looking at a bridgeport >mill that has a 3 phase motor on it. of course i don't have 3 phase. i >have read a little on the net about building my own phase converter. i >appears that using the capacitor method, the motor only generates about >2/3 of it's rated HP. which would be fine for what i will be using it >for. anybody have any experience with this. do it harm the 3 phase >motor? will it last? A buddy of mine used a Bridgeport in his home for years with a store-bought inverter. I don't remember where he got the inverter from, but I know it wasn't very expensive, so it must've been using the capacitive method. He never had any problems. Took a bunch of us to slide the base casting down a ramp into his basement. Nearly wiped out his hot water heater in the process. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 328277 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Ot Microsoft IE 6.0 from hell Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 11:00:59 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:dosk2u$2mh$1@reader1.panix.com... > In " Uncle Peter" > writes: > >>One small problem remains--when I reboot the machine my connection >>shows 2,900 kbps download speed. After a few days, this drops to >>about 1,300 kbps. Clearing the browser history, cookies (all options) >>doesn't improve the download rate--but rebooting the machine does! > > A drop in network performace can be due to many, many things. > If the machine is loaded to the point where it can no longer pay > attention to the TCP/IP stack, things will take a nose dive. > Packets will be dropped, re-transmissions will skyrocket, and > chances are the router or web server you're talking to will decide > to bump your priority. > > To figure out what's going on with a computer you need two > basic tools (think of these as a meter and oscilloscope): a > process analyzer that shows what's running, and a packet sniffer > to see what's coming and going. At the most basic level I use > "top" to see what's going on, and "ethereal" to watch the network. > > I have no idea what y'all use in the Micro$oft world, but maybe > someone else can recommend some trust-worthy tools. Windows NT based operating systems, like Win2K and XP have a built in tool for monitoring processes, and even network usage. Just hit and it will bring up Windows Task Manager. You can, from there, see what is using processor and memory time, and percentage of network usage. Article: 328278 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Anyone recognize this radio? Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:59:03 -0600 Message-ID: <20208-43B1F167-957@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: I did a www.devilfinder.com search for,Kennedy Radios There are some photos of other Kennedy radios,other than that,I dont know about Kennedy radios. cuhulin Article: 328279 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Wanted to Trade: Philco Cathedral Chassis' Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 19:10:41 -0700 Message-ID: <29064-43B1F421-418@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: If you dont find what you need i would like the cabinet if its not broken Article: 328280 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: Subject: Re: Anyone recognize this radio? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 02:42:44 GMT | Does anyone have any knowledge about this radio? The value and why is there | two chassis, what is the model number I would guess it's '29 or '30. Value on these dosn't get really very high, I would guess $150 - $175 tops. The top chassis is most likely a built in Shortwave converter, a lot of companies of this period built sets like this. I've seen Philco and AKs with built in SW converters. I'd like to have an AK version, but alas no room in the inn... 73, Ron http://radioheaven.homestead.com Article: 328281 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Audio Phoolery Runs Amok!!! References: Message-ID: <5unsf.1245$M%4.813@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 03:18:25 GMT > > What about old junction boxes? Hardware store (or worse) wall outlets? The > twisted and capped wires, perhaps aluminum? The splices and joints at the > pole, and inlet cable, the contacts at the circuit breakers, 50-year-old > transformers, etc. Wouldn't all that give you that "vintage" hi-fi sound in your system? ;-) Article: 328282 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: OT...phase converters Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 03:20:39 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1135726594.843230.22440@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135735614.545409.57470@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135739416.927163.78720@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> By sheer coincidence, I was just browsing the Science & Medicine category under "Antiques" on eBay and came across this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7574922805 So Bridgeports are antique now, huh? Eddie -- watch out for the rare, deco milling machines. They're pricey. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 328283 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Brunswick Model 12 spring repair From: lherault@bu.edu References: <1135285459.196489.248250@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 03:24:40 GMT Don't assume that the motor has not been disassembled before or that the springs are in the right orientation. Observe how the cranking action turns the various shafts and gears. See which turns first, barrel or inner axel. Once you have confirmed the directions things are supposed to wind, then make sure the springs agree with the observations. You may want to squeeze the inner coil a bit to make the spring stay attached to the inner shaft. Before you reassemble, you might as well clean the old grease out. A good soak in kerosene for a few days may do the trick. Re lube with moly grease that has graphite added. Ron L Article: 328284 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Electric phonograph motor needed From: lherault@bu.edu References: <43b0b7c1$1_5@newsfeed.slurp.net> <74o1r1h14r5cqgcubv1k1te9iusi56c9km@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 03:31:27 GMT That's not it, unfortunately. Mine has a spring wound driving shaft. Ron L Article: 328285 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> Message-ID: <%Gnsf.10258$3Z.478@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 03:32:11 GMT Mark Oppat wrote: > around here its rare to have any outside disconnect unless the service panel > (breaker box) is more than 3' from where the mains cable enters into the > home. In that case, an outside disconnect is required. > > I dont recommend 200A panels. Its overkill. 100 to 150A is plenty for any > normal home, but you want to make sure you have plenty of breaker slots for > your needs. > > If you have a good size in -home shop, 200A might be a good idea. > You can use sub-panels to feed special loads, say the shop in the garage, central air system, or whatever. The main panel would have say 100A "branch circuits" that feed the sub-panels. There's an electrical code rule saying "no more than 42 breakers in any one panel", so sub-panels is how you get to have more breakers in the house. Article: 328286 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <77mdnZZCgY9lei3eRVn-vw@comcast.com> Message-ID: <0Lnsf.10261$3Z.9834@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 03:36:28 GMT > > > Because most appliances etc. don't pull the full 20A. > > They do make 20A rated U-ground outlets. > If you look at the metal guts of better quality 15 vs 20 amp outlets, you'll find that they are the same. Thus those 15A rated outlets are actually underrated. Article: 328287 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: A Merry "Blue" Xmas to All! Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:53:33 -0500 Message-ID: <11r431klv3e9d6b@corp.supernews.com> References: <11qqi7mtancg555@corp.supernews.com> <3Vrrf.9896$7S.2069@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1r6dnfr4utTk3C3eRVn-uQ@comcast.com> Interesting idea, reading those ads too. I buy it because John T.'s a swell guy and I like having a paper copy of swap schedules and articles. I don't often buy stuff from it, but I wouldn't do without it. John H. Article: 328288 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: OT...phase converters Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 04:42:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1135726594.843230.22440@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135735614.545409.57470@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135739416.927163.78720@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1135740368.839880.185520@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1135740368.839880.185520@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Eddie Brimer" writes: >that's pretty much it....or about that vintage. of course it's a >cincinatti, and it is sans the digital readout. he's asking 400.00 for >it. That's dirt cheap. Go for it! Make sure you got lots of help lined up. As you know, these things weigh almost as much as a Capehart. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 328289 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: Anyone recognize this radio? References: Message-ID: <44psf.30718$LB5.7714@fed1read04> Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 22:08:24 -0700 I think Ron is right. My guess? The basic radio is a Kennedy Model 52, as is shown on the leftmost label on the rear apron. The upper chassis is a Kennedy Model 53 shortwave converter. The chassis layout and the knob and dial positioning tend to confirm the latter - it is harder to tell about the former. Check Rdiers Vol 2. Rather nice combo. If it were anywhere near me, I would be in the running. Bill Jeffrey ======================== Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > | Does anyone have any knowledge about this radio? The value and why is > there > | two chassis, what is the model number > > > I would guess it's '29 or '30. Value on these dosn't get > really very high, I would guess $150 - $175 tops. > The top chassis is most likely a built in Shortwave converter, > a lot of companies of this period built sets like this. > I've seen Philco and AKs with built in SW converters. > > I'd like to have an AK version, but alas no room in the inn... > > 73, Ron > http://radioheaven.homestead.com > > > > Article: 328290 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: MY 2005 CHRISTMAS GIFT TO THE GROUP........... Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 21:17:27 -0800 Message-ID: References: norml wrote: > Thanks, Scott. > > What a great contribution to our hobby! > > I enjoyed the B&K slides since I just gave a working B&K analyzer with some > of the original slides to the C.H.R.S. > > BTW, by version of Nero Express would not burn the ISO image. It asked for > an upgrade. > Norm is right.....The ISO image works with some versions of Nero but not others. To avoid confusion, I have now removed the ISO-Burning references to Nero Express on the page and changed the DVD instructions so it gives details on how to burn the ISO image using the freeware "Imgburn" utility, which is now available on the site. Now you can make one of these DVDs even if you don't already have DVD burning software on your computer. Enjoy! -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 328291 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Victrola and Jesus Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 20:34:58 -0700 Message-ID: References: if you look at it sideways its the lips from rocky horror picture show. randy "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:RcadnXrfasEmZjTeRVn-jA@sigecom.net... > Ok, I usually don't do this but this one is over the top........and > definitely NOT MINE. > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/JESUS-IMAGE-ON-VICTROLA-DOORS-UNBELIEVABLE_W0QQitemZ6237163669QQcategoryZ1447QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Bruce > Article: 328292 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Victrola and Jesus Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 23:11:55 -0500 Message-ID: <11qk9s9n7k7d72a@corp.supernews.com> References: <9nnqf.692$nu6.646@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Gary Tayman wrote: > There's a face in there all right, but I don't think it has anything to do > with Jesus. Looks kinda like Bob Marley after he's had one too many pills. > > PILLS ? You've got the wrong man, he spelled his name "g-a-n-g-a". John H. Article: 328293 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Real Radio show on Ellery Queen TV From: Larry References: <43A7BD78.D8BC1968@earthlink.net> <43A9F964.A7CD6407@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 21:05:56 -0500 "Ken Doyle" wrote in news:a72dnaXTNImDYzTenZ2dnUVZ_vidnZ2d@giganews.com: > Anyway, thank you Larry for SHARING with us. > > You're quite welcome. He's been following me around posting nasty messages for a while trying to run me off. I've been on usenet way too long to care....(c; Article: 328294 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: Hammarlund HX-50 transmitter Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 10:07:12 GMT Gentlemen, I found a schematic. Thanks, Paul. "Paul P" wrote in message news:H76sf.1129$yx.458@trndny01... >I am restoring a Hammarlund HX-50 for a fellow ham. The BAMA schematic > is...quite bad. I am having trouble tracing and verifying the components > of > the unit. The rest of the manual is rather good in DjVu format. The > owner > has a reproduction manual on order and we hope it has a better schematic. > > In the mean time I would like to get started and order caps, resistors, > etc. > Could a kind soul please email me a copy of the schematic? Also my parts > list resistor section starts with R165. There seems to be a missing BAMA > page in between pages 43 and 44. > > Thanks to all, > Paul > www.ppinyot.com > > BTW - if you would like a stand alone (not plug in) DjVu application go > to: > http://www.tuberadio.it/utils.htm It is slick. I have combined many jpgs > and gifs into a single file. The resolution is surprisingly good for the > overall compressed file size. This newsgroup probably already knows > this..... :~) > > > Article: 328295 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" References: Subject: Re: Victrola and Jesus Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 02:52:18 GMT Thats just who I was going to say! Except he doesn't have a bung between his lips. " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:bCnqf.31815$Mi5.18494@dukeread07... > > "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message > news:RcadnXrfasEmZjTeRVn-jA@sigecom.net... >> Ok, I usually don't do this but this one is over the top........and >> definitely NOT MINE. >> > > > Cheech Martin??? > > From philsvintageradios<----- remove ----- Fri Dec 30 23:25:30 EST 2005 Article: 328296 of rec.antiques.radio+phono X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.86.62.131 From: phil < philsvintageradios<----- remove ----->@yahoo.ca > Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Message-ID: References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.93/32.576 English (American) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 42 Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 12:17:24 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.59.144.74 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: pd7tw3no 1135772244 64.59.144.74 (Wed, 28 Dec 2005 05:17:24 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 05:17:24 MST Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!216.196.98.141!border2.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!feed.cgocable.net!pd7cy1no!shaw.ca!pd7tw3no.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:328296 Thanks for all the help with this. I have been over at the house and didn't expect so many replies.. but I had a very interesting read. I was mainly asking abot the grounding because I thought it might make a difference (only since I am nterested in radio.. most wouldn't even consider radio reception when wiring a house) This is here in Vancouver Canada. The ground is always wet. this is one of the few places you see puddles forming on hills:) If the code requires ground rods I will get them. The plumbing is certainly not plastic.. no plastic anything in this 1924 house. Some seemed concerned and suggested hiring out. I will be consulting with my brother who is a licenced electrician. he can help me with the planning and changing the panel .running the wires in is a lot of hard work and I will probably be able to do a lot of that, just have him check my work.. Tonight I mapped out each circut and the load on the 60 amp panel is pretty well spread out.. but it is only 60 amps with 12 breakers, it only has about 9 circuts. a couple of plugs and a light in each room Half of it is old knob and tube, which must go.. the house is about 2000 sq ft and I have plans to build a shop at the back , roughly 900sq ft. The lines are hung too close to the attic window, so that must change , which means a new mast and a new wire drop... and a permit. The panel will probably be feeding a sub panel in the garage (to be) eventually. I have little need for electric heat or much of an air conditioner, but it is nice to have the option of electric heat. The discussion on the panel size I read wih great interest as I weigh the cost, future expansion etc. Thanks for the info. I found out I must have the plumbing grounded as that is a no-no in case a wire rubs on the plumbing. Non grounded plumbing is definitely out Conduit may be an option in keeping the stray hum at bay by sheilding the wiring. but probably not practicle as it would be very hard to run everything that way.. perhaps in a selected area for radio listening or my workbench, it could be used. Phil Article: 328297 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" Subject: WTD: Majestic PS Cover Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 08:30:41 -0500 looking for a cover for the Majestic power supply (90 / 9P6 etc)... Rusty okay Pete Article: 328298 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" Subject: 2X3s Message-ID: <24xsf.221$Lm6.154@fe06.ams> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 08:15:04 -0600 Ladies and Gentlemen, Some advice, if you please. I have a couple of radios that were built with 2X3s for rectifiers. Have hunted around the web to determine availability (not much). I'm considering these radios for resale to make some room. I have some 2X3s, but wonder if for future reliability/availability, I should convert the radios to 5Y3 rectifiers or similar. What would you do? Cheers, Nelson Article: 328299 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <24xsf.221$Lm6.154@fe06.ams> Subject: Re: 2X3s Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 14:38:10 GMT "Nelson Gietz" wrote in message news:24xsf.221$Lm6.154@fe06.ams... > Ladies and Gentlemen, > Some advice, if you please. > I have a couple of radios that were built with 2X3s for rectifiers. > Have hunted around the web to determine availability (not much). > I'm considering these radios for resale to make some room. I have > some 2X3s, but wonder if for future reliability/availability, I should > convert the radios to 5Y3 rectifiers or similar. > What would you do? > Cheers, > Nelson > >Nelson, If the radios are functioning now and you plan to sell them, I would sell them with the original 2X3's. I always prefer to buy original versus altered radios, even if that means hard to obtain tubes. Just my 2 cents ..... Larry Fowkes Article: 328300 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <24xsf.221$Lm6.154@fe06.ams> Subject: Re: 2X3s Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 09:43:38 -0500 Looking at the findatube.com website shows Bob has those new for $15.00, and used for 8 bucks. He also is selling a "substitute" for a much lower price. Drop him a line and ask what the "Sub" is comprised of. But, the tube seems to be relatively available. Pete 2X3 $ 15.00 $ 8.00 2X3 SUB $ 8.00 $ 3.50 Article: 328301 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43B2A80A.A1BBB570@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <43B17057.4DB773C2@earthlink.net> <1v-dnXt__JZB_y_enZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 14:58:31 GMT Mark Oppat wrote: > > Michael, > I am not a cheapskate, believe me. But the panel cost is quite a bit more > for a 200 over a 100. I can get a 100 A (20 space panel) with 10 breakers > included at HD for around $100 IIRC. The 200 is easily twice that, but you > are not including the cost of the SE cable into it, with hardware, which can > be some real bux too. > > I am running about 80% flourescent lights here now too, and many appliances > are much more effiicient than they used to be... especially AC units and > ref's. All of the ceiling lights are fluorescent. There are two incandescent 15 watt bulbs on the gate posts that are on dusk till dawn, and a couple table lamps that are rarely used. There are also three motion sensor security lights on the property that rarely come on. In fact, I have two motion sensor lamps in the house. One in the entryway, and the other in the hallway leading to the bathroom. These are small incandescent lamps that aren't on more than a few minutes most days. > There is no need for more than a 100 amp panel for any house 2000 sf and > under, unless you are running several AC units OR if you have ELECTRIC water > heater or any electric space heating, two things I forgot to spec. here. > IF you are running some good size shop tools, too, which I did mention, > would be a reason for more amps. With all my lights on, ref running, AC > running, etc, I might get my whole load up to about 30 amps in my 1400 sf > section of this house. My upstairs tennant could maybe get close to that > too. We have gas stoves, but even add in the maybe 25A per leg for them all > on, and we couldnt get past 60A. There is no natural gas service available through most of Florida to use for cooking or heating so you have to choose between electric or propane. Propane prices are going up faster than electric rates and if your propane tank isn't near the street, the big trucks will damage your driveway, so a lot of people are switching to all electric homes. Very few homes are without air conditioning. I have both central air with the heat pump and electric heaters and four air conditioners so I can cool a room or two at a time, or the whole house. BTW, the central air hasn't been on in two years. > Even if you have an electric stove too, you wont need ever more than a 150 > panel, with the exception of a good size workshop as I stated. The biggest power tool I have right now would be the drill press, and that is in a building with a single 15 amp service. I use acetylene for welding, and I don't have an air compressor anymore. (It was stolen) I want to buy a small milling machine. I am designing a computer controlled coil winding machine that uses a pile of stepper motors instead of gears and cams. Once you have the prototype of ay coil wound, it is a simple matter to load the coil form, select the proper size wire and run the program for that part. The unit will hold a dozen reels of wire, and have room for more, if needed. > With the exception of corrosion or old equipment, no panel will affect any > voltage drop in your home. You would have to pull some massive amps to do > it. Sorry, Mark, but the heavier service entrance cable and underground feeders have lower resistance. According to Ohm's law, that reduces the voltage drop. > I would sure upgrade from the mess you have, I agree. I already have. Its amazing that every electrical contractor that did any part of that mess is out of business, isn't it? I'll tell you one thing. Its no fun digging a trench when you have one one hand, because the other is holding you up with a cane. > Mark Oppat -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 328302 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 08:58:49 -0600 Message-ID: <14902-43B2A829-248@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: I like to collect all kinds of old,old thingys,including very old thingys that are related to very old house wiring,knobs,tubes,electric swithces,sockets,meters,etc.Like the old saying goes,One mans junk is another mans treasure. cuhulin Article: 328303 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) Subject: Re: Source for new 2BP1, 3RP1, etc. smallish scope tubes? Date: 28 Dec 2005 15:49:23 GMT Message-ID: References: <1135132378.023730.6950@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1135192035.916407.12240@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135194472.878118.190350@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> "shoppa@trailing-edge.com" writes: >retroteckh wrote: >> shoppa@trailing-edge.com wrote: >> > The mad scientist side of me has a need for dozens of identical small >> > scope tubes. Something in the 2BP1, 3RP1A class (2" or 3" nominal >> > diameter, not much more than a foot in length.). >> > >> >> In Canada there's a store called Canadian Tire, in their sales >> flyer they had a small Black and White Television with a screen about >> four inches for $Can19.95. Would that make a mad scientist happy? >That comes close. US discount stores have a similar B&W TV, and I've >discovered through experiment that I can unplug the horizontal and >vertical deflection coils and indeed steer the beam around that way. >But the bandwidth isn't much more than 30kc (at least for the way I was >driving the deflection coils) and I was really hoping to move to >electrostatically deflected CRT's. >Those little TV's have proven useful for other apps, the little flyback >is quite fun to play with. >Tim. You might check with David Forbes (www.cathodecorner.com). He used to sell a "scope clock" with a 3RP1A. He says the tube is current Chinese production. He might divulge his source. I just purchased a lot of 3" tubes, NOS, from www.tubesontheweb.com. There has to be one of the tube suppliers with these. Steve -- Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Article: 328304 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) Subject: Re: Your connection? Date: 28 Dec 2005 15:54:29 GMT Message-ID: References: <1134882598.435660.77690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <3r2sq159a6gni839aqedgqg4g8tn9qhh4g@4ax.com> Xmttrman writes: >On 17 Dec 2005 22:01:21 -0800, "Terry S" wrote: >> >>How many of you are on dial-up, vs. broadband? If it's still a high >>percentage dial-up, maybe I should break of some of the pages and >>reduce some image sizes? >> >>Terry. >> We have Qwest DSL here. It is extremely unreliable-- essentially dead during peak times (right after school 3-5pm and from about 6-8pm). For casual browsing off-peak it is fast, but it takes minutes to load the smallest page during peak. It was pretty unusable the week before Christmas. I use the 56k dial-up for downloads and important connections. While slower it is a lot more reliable. Large down loads are more likely to finish on the 56k than the Qwest line. (and only costs $9/month). Steve. -- Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Article: 328305 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <%Gnsf.10258$3Z.478@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 09:10:56 -0700 robert casey wrote: > There's an electrical code rule saying "no more than 42 breakers > in any one panel", so sub-panels is how you get to have more > breakers in the house. That's interesting. I always wondered why my panels had several perfectly serviceable extra knockouts, each with a sticky label saying "Do not remove this knockout." So now the question is, does the code say "no more than 42 breakers", or "no more than 42 breaker positions" (i.e., knockouts). Of course I am thinking of the slimline dual breakers, where you get two independent 15-amp or 20-amp breakers in a single 1" position. Am I allowed to have more than 42 breakers if I use these? Bill Jeffrey Article: 328306 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <43B17057.4DB773C2@earthlink.net> <1v-dnXt__JZB_y_enZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 09:28:09 -0700 Mark Oppat wrote: > There is no need for more than a 100 amp panel for any house 2000 sf and > under ... Mark - I can think of one thing that drives up the number of breakers, if not the rating of the panel. That is the number of outlets you want to install in the house. The code limits the number of outlets that can be serviced by one breaker. I like having lots of outlets. Code doesn't require very many, so most electricians don't put in very many. But it drives me nuts to encounter long stretches of wall (or multiple short stretches) that have no outlet. For example, I have a Philco 41-280 console that fits very nicely in the hallway between two bedroom doors. But guess what? Code doesn't require an outlet there, and I can't/won't run an extension cord across either door opening. Fortunately, I had a chance to work with the electrician as this house was being built, and an outlet is in place on this wall. In fact, the house has at least 40 outlets that code doesn't require. Yes, it cost a little more - but not much while the original work was being done and the walls were open. Once the walls are closed, it would cost more to add a single outlet in a new location. That reminds me. In reference to another topic in this thread, I insisted that the electrician set up all outlet runs with #12 wire. He agreed, but pointed out that since the outlets themselves would be 15-amp rated, he would have to populate the breaker panel with 15-amp breakers. I agreed, and the inspector had no problem. Since then, it has happened on a couple occasions that I needed 20-amp service at some location or other. Since the run was already #12, I simply replaced both the breaker and the outlet with 20-amp rated units. Easy! And again the cost was minimal while the walls were open. Some people accuse me of wearing both belt and suspenders ... Bill Article: 328307 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rick" References: <1135726594.843230.22440@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT...phase converters Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 16:41:10 GMT "BFoelsch" wrote in message news:JNWdnSsbL9dlKC_enZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@giganews.com... > > "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message > news:1135726594.843230.22440@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > > what do you know about phase converters? i am looking at a bridgeport > > mill that has a 3 phase motor on it. of course i don't have 3 phase. i > > have read a little on the net about building my own phase converter. i > > appears that using the capacitor method, the motor only generates about > > 2/3 of it's rated HP. which would be fine for what i will be using it > > for. anybody have any experience with this. do it harm the 3 phase > > motor? will it last? > > Before you fool around with phase converters, take a look at the variable > speed drives that are available. Allen-Bradley, for instance makes some > small units with single phase in and 3 phase out. I am certain that other > manufacturers make comparables at lower cost. The benefit here is that you > will get a true, balanced 3 phase source. Prices on these things have come > way down. There is no doubt that decent phase converters can be built, but > unless you have a lot of motors and AC capacitors laying around the cost > will be comparable to that of a small drive. I'd agree with that-VFDs are getting really cheap. Easy, neat setup, too... Article: 328308 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bartley Subject: Re: 2X3s References: <24xsf.221$Lm6.154@fe06.ams> <1135790557.597380.162130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:11:00 -0500 nesesu wrote: > FWIW, Nelson, when I overhauled a Rogers set that uses two 2X3 and a > 6X6 eye, for a fellow who wanted to run it all day every day, I made a > plug in adaptor to use a 5Y3 in place of the two 2X3 and a small under > chassis mod to allow use of a 1629 for the eye. This way the owner can > more easily obtain the tubes in future and yet the set can be restored > to original like Larry would want. > I suppose that what I am saying is that for a set intended to be > regularly used [as this one was intended to be] I would rather use up > readily available tubes and leave the quite rare tubes for operable > "collector" sets that are only run occasionally. > My $0.02 > Neil S. > This would be my $0.02 also. I would also suggest that if you have dud 2x3 tubes (or similar sized duds), putting a SS diode in the tube bases would let you leave the old tube bodies there and it would look original to all but an expert. cheers Article: 328309 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Original or a remuddle? Message-ID: <9xBsf.15761$7S.12138@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 19:17:25 GMT "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:FfKdnRvMw9qQRC_eRVn-pA@sigecom.net... > > Somewhere there is a collector wanting that radio in it's original configuration, > not one that has been kludged. > I agree Bruce. And these "original" sets are getting harder and harder to find. I can't tell you how many Philco cathedrals I've seen over the years with those pretty copper capacitor cans removed and modern caps placed under the chassis instead. To leave a set kludged like that, especially with exposed holes on their chassis, tells me that someone didn't care enough to do the job properly. That's why I paid a premium price for my Philco 38-690 console with 1/4 inch of dust on the chassis. I knew it hadn't been messed with for decades, and it just may stay that way. jim menning Article: 328310 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Masterlist Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:17:46 -0600 Message-ID: <10107-43B2E4DA-291@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> http://radioatticarchives.com/masterlist.htm has a list of many different brand names of radios and models and model numbers. cuhulin Article: 328311 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 15:40:52 -0330 "philsvintageradios" wrote in message news:22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com... > > I am about to rewire an old house. It is built in 1924 and the wiring > needs updating. > The code seems to indicate that the powerbox should use the waterpipe > as a ground. it states that If it is available, this MUST be used as a > ground.(If it isn't available, you can drive a copper rod into the > earth and use that. > > It ocurred to me that since the ground runs all through the house, > that using the waterpipe as ground might cause the waterpipe to itself > radiate some ac hum. > > I thought a short section of plastic plumbing installed on the main > line into the house could be used to isolate this ground circut from > the rest of the plumbing, but I don't know if it would make any > diffference to the amount of stray interference from AC hum > > does my theory "hold water" ? >- I don't think the 'theory' will hold water, as you say. I respectfully suggest you will get much help (and possibly a couple of 'smart-ass' replies) by posting on the < alt.home.repair > group. Posters there are generally knowledgeable and helpful; especially to someone with some knowledge of electricity. They, including myself, are less sympathetic, however to those who pose ideas that might be outright dangerous or flagrantly against whatever electrical code is in effect in your area! For example one who posted "What will happen if I install 30 amp fuses instead of 15 amp. Mine keep blowing!" Article: 328312 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Original or a remuddle? Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:20:03 -0600 Message-ID: <10106-43B2E563-1128@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <9xBsf.15761$7S.12138@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> I agree.Keep them original,with original new old stock parts if necessary. cuhulin Article: 328313 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43B2E812.A00146D0@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <43B17057.4DB773C2@earthlink.net> <1v-dnXt__JZB_y_enZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com> <43B2A80A.A1BBB570@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 19:31:38 GMT Mark Oppat wrote: > > Michael wrote... > > >>>Sorry, Mark, but the heavier service entrance cable and underground > feeders have lower resistance. According to Ohm's law, that reduces the > voltage drop. > > Michael, you gotta be running some significant distance from the meter to > the panel to have any such effect, and even then, as I said, you gotta be > pulling some major amps for you to notice any effect whatsoever. Otherwise, > the panel and the wire to it will have no everyday effect at all between a > 100A service and a 200A service. Most "meter socket to panel" SE (service > entrance) wires around here are under 10'. They allow up to 3' inside the > house before you have to add an outside disconnect. > > Mark Oppat Mark, I give up on you. You don't see the big picture of motor starting currents and other things that can cause any number of problems. Most of the meter poles around here are 25 to 50 feet away >from the main structure, because the will not install a service drop of any kind over a driveway. Not electric, CATV or telephone. If you are over 25 feet, you have to install a separate disconnect outside of the building. I have to use a UPS to keep the spikes and sags out of my computer system, or spend a half hour resetting everything and logging all of the computers back into the network. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 328314 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 13:40:22 -0600 Message-ID: <27216-43B2EA26-1011@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: AMEN CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 328315 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Mills" References: <44psf.30718$LB5.7714@fed1read04> Subject: Re: Anyone recognize this radio? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 15:00:41 -0500 The model 52 and 53 matches the radio. Thanks for the info. Tom ... >I think Ron is right. > > My guess? The basic radio is a Kennedy Model 52, as is shown on the > leftmost label on the rear apron. The upper chassis is a Kennedy Model 53 > shortwave converter. The chassis layout and the knob and dial positioning > tend to confirm the latter - it is harder to tell about the former. Check > Rdiers Vol 2. > > Rather nice combo. If it were anywhere near me, I would be in the > running. > > Bill Jeffrey > ======================== > Article: 328316 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Original or a remuddle? References: <9xBsf.15761$7S.12138@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 15:45:49 -0500 Bill Turner had a good readon for the empty cap holes in a chassis. Way back, customers wanted the bad part returned with the radio to prove new parts had been installed. jim menning wrote: > "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message > news:FfKdnRvMw9qQRC_eRVn-pA@sigecom.net... > >>Somewhere there is a collector wanting that radio in it's original configuration, >>not one that has been kludged. >> > > > I agree Bruce. And these "original" sets are getting harder and harder to find. I > can't tell you how many Philco cathedrals I've seen over the years with those pretty > copper capacitor cans removed and modern caps placed under the chassis instead. To > leave a set kludged like that, especially with exposed holes on their chassis, tells > me that someone didn't care enough to do the job properly. That's why I paid a > premium price for my Philco 38-690 console with 1/4 inch of dust on the chassis. I > knew it hadn't been messed with for decades, and it just may stay that way. > > jim menning > > > Article: 328317 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <9xBsf.15761$7S.12138@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Original or a remuddle? Message-ID: <1ZCsf.35739$Mi5.9319@dukeread07> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 15:54:58 -0500 "Ken" wrote in message news:eQCsf.17581$Ou3.11720@dukeread09... > Bill Turner had a good readon for the empty cap holes in a chassis. Way > back, customers wanted the bad part returned with the radio to prove new > parts had been installed. You can't fault the early repairmen for doing this, it was probably good repair practice in those days. When the top seals went, those caps would piddle all over the bench with the chassis inverted for servicing. But, anyone who claims to be a restorer and does that is a hack. Pete > Article: 328318 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bartley Subject: Re: 2X3s References: <24xsf.221$Lm6.154@fe06.ams> <1135790557.597380.162130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <3WCsf.1440$Yk2.198348@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 15:52:16 -0500 Mark Oppat wrote: > the 2X3 is unique to Canadian made Rogers radios and maybe some other Cdn > sets. Same with the 6X6 eye. No USA sets used them ever. > > Mark Oppat Mark, I think you are correct. I may be wrong, but as far as I know, ONLY the Rogers group of radios used these tubes. That would be Rogers, Rogers Majestic, Majestic (built by Rogers) and DeForest Crosley. cheers Article: 328319 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: crystal detector set, was (Re: Proposed Eico Tone Control Mod) Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 14:09:52 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1135640953.640470.129660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135695874.051676.267890@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135718481.829926.162390@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135732711.643772.77860@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:18:31 -0800, pfjw@aol.com wrote: >> but the bandwidth is >>independent of proper matching. Can you explain why proper matching >>should require unusually narrow bandwidth? There is one reason I can >>envision, which is a narrow band antenna system, which I suppose the >>typical short wire antenna would qualify as. > > John: > > If you want an explanation in the engineering sense, I am not an > engineer... but let's see if this does the trick. A priori, I wish to > state that I am relating my direct experience with a crystal detector > driving a standard 4-ohm nominal relatively efficient audio speaker. > NOTE: I did not say "high fidelity". The speaker was a so-called > 'full-range' concentric speaker designed for use in cars. > > The basic explanation is that if the entire bandwidth is concentrated > into a very narrow range... without clamping the edges, more powers is > concentrated into the 'sweet spot'. Kinda like concentrating a given > flow of liquid into a narrow channel. If one needs to pass so many > gallons-per-minute, and the channel gets narrow, the speed of the flow > gets faster. (I do like plumbing analogies given the Brit "VALVE" > designation). > > When the phenomenon was demonstrated to me, the choice was a specific > output transformer that -somehow- did exactly that. It was fed via an > R/C arrangement that the demonstrator could vary... as the signal > became more 'full range' the volume dropped... like a stone. > > On the other hand, the antenna in question was about 50' of wire strung > over the pavilion joists (Kutztown Radio Swap some years ago), and > nothing otherwise special. I am not trying to be evasive, but at the > same time, I am reporting my direct observations of a home-brew crystal > set without any external amplification driving a single speaker at a > volume sufficient to be heard in the setting. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA You need to know what the "R/C arrangement" was doing. Resistors dissipate power and you certainly don't want any of them around when you are trying something like this. You should even consider the resistance of the output transformer. As far as your water pipe analogy, if the station you wanted to listen to was broadcasting white noise it might have some validity. However, most people prefer music or speech, both of which have very little energy above a few KHz. That is why records and FM radio use pre-emphasis; it boosts the highs before transmission so they don't get lost in noise. At the receiving end, they are cut back down to size reducing the noise at the same time. The Q of the tuned circuit used in the receiver has a direct effect on bandwidth as well as efficiency. High Q gives narrower bandwidth and higher efficiency (for the circuit by itself). Coupling a load to the circuit reduces the Q no matter how good the circuit itself is. That is why old receivers used "loose couplers"; the lower loading increased the selectivity. Simultaneously, it also reduced the loudness of the signal received; they were adjustable so the operator could reach some sort of compromise. Since most crystal sets (even using headphones) have trouble receiving less than half the broadcast band at once, I sincerely doubt that they could get a high enough Q to limit the bandwidth to anything like 2KHz, especially while driving a speaker. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 328320 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Original or a remuddle? References: <9xBsf.15761$7S.12138@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1ZCsf.35739$Mi5.9319@dukeread07> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 17:14:58 -0500 For sure. I save all old can caps I find for this purpose. Ken Uncle Peter wrote: > "Ken" wrote in message > news:eQCsf.17581$Ou3.11720@dukeread09... > >>Bill Turner had a good readon for the empty cap holes in a chassis. Way >>back, customers wanted the bad part returned with the radio to prove new >>parts had been installed. > > > > You can't fault the early repairmen for doing this, it was probably > good repair practice in those days. When the top seals went, those > caps would piddle all over the bench with the chassis inverted for > servicing. But, anyone who claims to be a restorer and does that > is a hack. > > Pete > > > > Article: 328321 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 15:18:59 -0700 Message-ID: References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <77mdnZZCgY9lei3eRVn-vw@comcast.com> "BFoelsch" wrote in message news:W5udncpiRrzGZy_eRVn-uw@giganews.com... > > "xrongor" wrote in message > news:dosnas$h0h$1@news3.infoave.net... >> >> "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message >> news:XAgsf.8105$hI1.999@tornado.socal.rr.com... >>> >>> >>> xrongor wrote: >>>> yes but this makes no sense. you dont use circuit breakers because you >>>> are planning for things to 'work'. you use them because you are >>>> planning for things to go wrong. >>>> >>>> i mean, come on. dont you find it odd? the code is so overkill on >>>> most things this just seems very out of place. >>> >>> Not at all. Most "outlet" branches have several outlets on them. >>> >>> That like suggesting that ALL lightbulbs have to draw 15 amps. >> >> no, its like suggesting that one MIGHT draw 15 amps. one MIGHT draw 20 >> amps... 90% of the code is about what if scenareos. i dunno, the logic >> behind putting a 20A outlet on a 20A breaker seems so obvious i cant >> explain it further. >> >> guess im alone on this one lol. > > > > No, it's a good question and very few people understand the explanation. > > A 15 amp receptacle has the standard configuration of 2 parallel blades. > All UL listed appliances that are intended for connection to a 15 amp > circuit are provided with 15 amp plugs. Therefore, even if your circuit > breaker is rated at 20 amps, only 15 amps will be drawn by a UL listed > appliance plugged into a 15 amp socket, hence the receptacle will never be > overloaded. Now, of course you might have an overload condition, but it is > unlikely to be problematic. A motor operated appliance of that size will > have built -in overload protection and will disconnect itself after a > short while. A short circuit will trip any breaker very quickly. > > A UL listed appliance intended for connection to a 20 amp circuit has a > different blade configuration, one blade is rotated 90 degrees so it will > NOT fit into a 15 amp receptacle. Therefore, a UL listed 20 amp appliance > cannot overload a 15 amp receptacle, because it won't fit! > > Now, when Joe Homeowner starts to put his own plugs on stuff all bets are > off, but there isn't really any good way to prevent that. Just like this > whole thread, which ignores NEC 250.104. This article states, basically, > that a metal plumbing system MUST be bonded to the service entrance. > Whether it causes radio interference or not is irrelevant. you said it yourself. joe homeowner starts in and all bets are off. code is designed to hedge bets... i am well aware of the NEC answer to the question why and you did a great job explaining it. i just dont agree with it nor do i find it consistant with other parts of the code. randy Article: 328322 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <9xBsf.15761$7S.12138@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1135809919.687540.42210@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Original or a remuddle? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 00:28:57 GMT "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1135809919.687540.42210@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > > ok jim....how much? you know i have been wanting one. all original too. > pardon me while i wipe the drool. > Sorry Eddie, not for sale. I also gave the wrong model number earlier. Mine is the 37-690 with the full doors, not the 38-690 with the tambour door. If you are serious about finding one, talk with Alan Jesperson. He is the one that I would go to if I were looking now. He's the one that found my 37-690 for me. I think he's had a couple since then also. jim menning Article: 328323 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <29064-43B1F421-418@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Wanted to Trade: Philco Cathedral Chassis' Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 01:10:47 GMT "Ken G." wrote in message news:29064-43B1F421-418@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net... > > If you dont find what you need i would like the cabinet if its not > broken > If you or anyone else needs a model 20 cabinet, Dick Oliver makes the repros along with the 21, 70, and 90. http://www.radioswapmeet.com/store/doliver.pdf jim menning Article: 328324 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: Original or a remuddle? Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:44:59 +0100 Message-ID: References: The topic of altering tube lineups and sets has come up lately in order to use more readily available and cheaper tubes. I have to come down on the side of originality. I think if you have to go to the trouble of rewiring **I'll agree to 98% of the "leave it original" view. However in the case of junkers that are not worth restoring I might try some alterations- but they will be obvious and nothing hidden. I ended up with a Philco 37-620 with no speaker and a shorted xfmr; it's not a rare radio so I put in a modern spkr and OEM xfmr replacement. Then came the 5Y3, the solid state detector, and soon a pair of 6L6's- it was for fun and education on tube circuitry by experimentation and application. A recent AK 35 of mine with a broken RF board, mouse nest, and 95% rust ended up working fine with three 12A's in the RF stages- an experiment in filaments and cathode connections. It's since been stripped for parts- but I did learn the problems with biasing and interaction of directly heated cathode tubes when using the type 12 triode. I've got spare 01-A's, but chose not to stress them in a piece of junk. These are the only two of my radios that have been "altered"; the rest are 100% original with hidden filter caps. But I say if you can learn something by experimentation with a junker, you are better equipped to repair the radios that should be properly restored. My $.02 -Pete Article: 328325 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Original or a remuddle? References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 01:56:24 GMT Pete_O wrote: > The topic of altering tube lineups and sets has come up lately in order to > use more readily available and cheaper tubes. I have to come down on the > side of originality. I think if you have to go to the trouble of rewiring > > **I'll agree to 98% of the "leave it original" view. Then there's things like the Siemens K32-GWB radio. A set of tubes for that are close to $200. I'm acquiring a set of duds to make adaptors with, and will be using. 117Z6GT 1LA6 1LH4 1LN5 3Q5GT which are all readily available >from Antique Electronics Supply and closer to $11 for a set. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328326 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Secret Santa came... References: Message-ID: <9qHsf.8313$ka.7518@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 01:59:33 GMT And a very pleasant surpise it was too. Since this year, I neglected to put myself on the list as a recipient. Our own Daniele in Italy sent me a package that arrived today. Some dud rim-lock and snap-lock Telefunken tubes and sockets. But the real surprise was a batch of Siemens ZM1020 Nixie tubes. *AND* the matching sockets. I'm going to have a really spiffy clock here in the shop in a short while. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328327 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Stone" References: <1135820954.868649.144240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is AM stereo dead? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 02:03:32 GMT The push seems to be for IBOC now (digital on the edges of the traditional AM carrier) "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1135820954.868649.144240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I bought an MCS AM Stereo/FM Stereo tuner yesterday. I was hoping > someone in Denver still broadcast AM stereo, but probably not. No > stereo light for any of the local stations. I know a few that used to > be stereo many years ago are now talk/news/sports only and probably > stopped stereo transmission. The tuner works great, but rats- no stereo > in AM. I checked a website for AM stereo but I think they had old info. > Article: 328328 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Original or a remuddle? Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 03:25:55 +0100 Message-ID: References: <9xBsf.15761$7S.12138@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1ZCsf.35739$Mi5.9319@dukeread07> Uncle Peter wrote: > You can't fault the early repairmen for doing this, it was probably > good repair practice in those days. When the top seals went, those > caps would piddle all over the bench with the chassis inverted for > servicing. But, anyone who claims to be a restorer and does that > is a hack. There is another reason for modding a radio in the past: My hometown was supplying strange 160 V DC ! Many retired or pecunious (or new-rich) people decided to immigrate >from towns with 110 or 220 V AC. If they owned a high-level AC set they often decided to let them modified to DC (some after the transformer was stinking ;-) On the other hand not all DC or AC/DC sets was made for 160 V DC, standard was 110 or 220 V DC or AC/DC. (You should know that German collectors prefer mostly AC sets. Unfortunately many radios up to about 1950 in my hometown was sold DC or AC/DC) My 1933/34 radiogram Telefunken Bayreuth 654 GSK was crazy modded to be used at 160 V DC instead of it's original 110 or 220 V DC. Fortunately the original owners stashed that monster upstairs to the shed because after WW II the French troops pronounced the official directive that _all_ radios must be emitted as (a kind of) war reparation. Now it is in my little collection "as is" for charity: http://www.radiomuseum.org/r/telefunken_bayreuth_654gsk.html (I will place two larger pictures at a.b.p.r) If sometimes the day will have 36 hours I will try to restore ;-) Kind Regards, Georg (Some other things on http://www.radiomuseum.org/collection/georg_richter.html ) Article: 328329 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <9O-dnahY_YlF2C7eRVn-vg@comcast.com> Subject: Re: AM sterio by accident? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 02:34:01 GMT "TerryJ" wrote in message news:9O-dnahY_YlF2C7eRVn-vg@comcast.com... >I have been playing around building a Part 15 AM transmitter using surplus >TV tubes. It is working pretty well now. I was checking the range using the >car radio and noticed the 'stereo' light blinking. It only came on when >there was loud passages which were probably overmodulating the transmitter. >There was a real stereo like sound from the speakers. Anyone have an idea >what is going on here? The receiver is a 2000 Ford Taurus factory radio >(top of the line that year). > > -- > Kind regards, > Terry Judkins > http://home.comcast.net/~suptjud If you're not using an NRSC filter mask, certain frequencies will trigger the stereo detection circuit. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery/Antique_radios and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 328330 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: Audio Phoolery Runs Amok!!! References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 20:39:12 -0600 Carter, K8VT wrote: > A friend of mine saw this on eBay and sent it to me. I thought some of > you might appreciate it... > > >> IN STOCK FOR IMMEDIATE SHIPMENT.$50 gives you $1,000 worth of >> improvement! This version of the Wiremold AC strip will improve any >> system or your money back! This model is not available from all >> Wiremold dealers. This strip has nine hospital-grade sockets >> hardwired together; however, unlike the power strips available at >> hardware stores, there is no circuit breaker, noise filter, light, >> switch or fuse. Any one of these items will drastically reduce the >> system's musical performance. The Wiremold strip is the only strip >> that is free of these performance-robbing items, while providing a >> suitable number of outlets for even the largest music systems. Cord >> is 6 feet. The order in which the components are plugged into the >> strip is critical. If you plug the power amplifier into the strip >> closest to the end where the strip power cord enters, and work your >> way back to the source component, you will get a much better sound. > $50? That's not really much more than a strip of WireMold costs at the local Home Depot.... jak Article: 328331 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 21:55:47 -0500 Message-ID: <11r6k1jte0p120b@corp.supernews.com> References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <43B17057.4DB773C2@earthlink.net> <1v-dnXt__JZB_y_enZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com> Bill Jeffrey wrote: > But it drives me nuts to encounter > long stretches of wall (or multiple short stretches) that have no > outlet. No section of any wall may be more than 6 feet from the nearest outlet For example, I have a Philco 41-280 console that fits very > nicely in the hallway between two bedroom doors. ALL isolated sections of wall more than 2 feet wide MUST have an outlet. > That reminds me. In reference to another topic in this thread, I > insisted that the electrician set up all outlet runs with #12 wire. He > agreed, but pointed out that since the outlets themselves would be > 15-amp rated, he would have to populate the breaker panel with 15-amp > breakers. This is misguided. Nearly all the 20 amp. circuits I know of and have ever seen except in kitchens have 15 amp. outlets. The "15 amp." outlets are ALL rated to *feed through* 20 amp. to downstream loads, the 15 amp. rating refers only to the load on any one cord/plug combo. No cord can be attached to an appliance drawing more than 15 amp. unless it has one sideways prong (the "dedicated" plug). As another poster said, the contacts are the same in 20 amp. outlets, you just can't fit a "dedicated" 20 amp PLUG in there (20 amp. outlets fit both styles of prongs). OR your electrician is the only one following the National Electrical Code. But he/she doesn't appear to install outlets per Code so I'm baffled. John H. Article: 328332 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:04:50 -0500 Message-ID: <11r6kij85p0jq17@corp.supernews.com> References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <43B17057.4DB773C2@earthlink.net> <1v-dnXt__JZB_y_enZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com> <11r6k1jte0p120b@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > > > ALL isolated sections of wall more than 2 feet wide MUST have an outlet. > PS- Essentially, ANY wall section you MIGHT put something MUST have an outlet. Anything else is like putting a loaded gun in the baby's crib. Good engineering makes doing the right thing EASIER than doing the wrong thing so people don't run cords under rugs and through doorways- always a big cause of structure fires. For the similar reasons Code requires a GFI outlet adjacent to every sink or tub (hair dryers, etc.) and outside next to every exterior door (Xmas lights). John H. Article: 328333 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:11:53 -0500 Message-ID: <11r6kvq28ltrsb6@corp.supernews.com> References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <1135700227.797484.305690@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135823996.837012.264030@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Karl wrote: > > > I'm sorry, but I keep watching this thread grow and grow, and it > bothers me that so many people are advising you on how to do it > yourself after seeing an obvious gap in your knowledge about > electricity. AH, like I once did you assume people READ the thread before posting. WE do, but clearly few others. Very smart people here often answer questions clearly having no reference to what has already been exhaustively covered. SO no one remembers that yes, first it should be said (as I already did) that it should be a pro who puts in the service entrance as a minimum. People are just answering the question, no giving advice on the big picture. But that's how it usually is- in the Forum for example it would be rude to say "strip the polyurethane off and start over" (as in a current thread) through that's the soundest advice. John H. Article: 328334 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 22:18:06 -0500 Message-ID: <11r6lbeld4p417@corp.supernews.com> References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <43B17057.4DB773C2@earthlink.net> <1v-dnXt__JZB_y_enZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com> <11r6k1jte0p120b@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > > ALL isolated sections of wall more than 2 feet wide MUST have an outlet. I guess they HALLWAY part does make this legal, sorry. I never though of having room in a hallway for a console. John H. Article: 328335 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Original or a remuddle? References: <8OednR1zYaga2i7enZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@sigecom.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 04:15:30 GMT Bruce Mercer wrote: > Spending on tubes keeps me from buying more radios or phonographs > so I can keep a path open to walk through. :-) You have a path? Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328336 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Original or a remuddle? Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 20:33:12 -0800 Message-ID: References: Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Then there's things like the Siemens K32-GWB radio. > A set of tubes for that are close to $200. > I'm acquiring a set of duds to make adaptors with, and will be > using. 117Z6GT 1LA6 1LH4 1LN5 3Q5GT which are all readily available > from Antique Electronics Supply and closer to $11 for a set. While I wouldn't mod these things willy-nilly, there are times when I think it is appropriate.....If an otherwise good set is sitting around waiting for a rare tube that may take years to find and could function now with a more easily obtained rewired sub, I'm more inclined to take a second look. Take for example the Scott Allwave 12, an awesome radio that used the somewhat bizarre Wanderlich tube in one of its circuits. I have chassis for two of them waiting in my repair queue, both of which need partial re-tubing as part of their restoration. The Wanderlich is missing in both, and good Wanderlichs are nearly impossible to find. Fortunately, there is a mod (which is detailed in some of Scott's own service literature) which allows a 55 tube to work in place of the Wanderlich. That is probably the route I am going to go with when I get around to restoring these two. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 328337 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" Subject: 2X3s and Original vs Remuddle Message-ID: <14Ksf.10412$q45.2479@fe17.lga> Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 23:02:33 -0600 Folks, The vote so far seems to be 6-2 in favour of using the original 2X3s... and apparently they're not as hard to find as I thought. That's very reassuring... I'd hate to put the cabinet label back in the Rogers (yes, John, one of the two candidates is a Rogers, the other a Majestic) where it says it's a "seven tube spread band radio" when the chassis only has six tubes and a chassis plug. As for making changes somewhere down the line, I or a future owner could do that when it becomes absolutely necessary. The Majestic already has been "muddled". When I get to it, it'll be restored back to a pair of 2X3s. Incidentally, I'm one of those who enjoy restuffing caps, whether they're tarboxes, Philco boats, or cans. I'm like Ken... save the dead cans. (I rattled the local tube amp guys awhile ago by asking them for a bunch of dead ones.) Thanks for all the input! Cheers, Nelson Article: 328338 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43B36DA8.2723C9ED@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 05:01:41 GMT Karl wrote: > > I'm sorry, but I keep watching this thread grow and grow, and it > bothers me that so many people are advising you on how to do it > yourself after seeing an obvious gap in your knowledge about > electricity. I don't mean to be rude, but I feel I must suggest you get > a union trained electrician to do your wiring for you. Most will do > side work and if you shop around a bit you'll probably find a > reasonable rate well within your budget. Again, I'm not trying to > insult you, I just don't want to read about your (or a guest's) > untimely death. A "union" electrician? I have worked for some large electrical contractors here in Florida, and I have never seen a union shop. I have worked on commercial and government buildings that have the tightest requirements, so if any union work is around, that would be where I would expect to see it. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 328339 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Original or a remuddle? Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 21:51:10 -0700 Message-ID: <25593-43B36B3E-1522@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: Back in ``the days`` these old radios were just appliances that were used like any toaster or vacuum no one carred about collectable or value Many Repair shops or `whoever` did any short cut to get things usable again just like most of us do today with new cheap objects , use tape or drive a screw in it to quickly get it fixed & dont care at all . I would love to see every radio go back to original but i dont have a life that long or the place to keep it all . Article: 328340 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43B36EAA.F2033F09@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: nice philco in florida References: <1135810532.303788.131180@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1135810590.577090.83100@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 05:05:58 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote: > > link would help... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/1937-Philco-console-radio-model-37-116_W0QQitemZ6592031429QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Gee, its less than a two hour drive from here. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 328341 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <1135700227.797484.305690@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135823996.837012.264030@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <43B36DA8.2723C9ED@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 05:29:06 GMT "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:43B36DA8.2723C9ED@earthlink.net... > > > A "union" electrician? I have worked for some large electrical > contractors here in Florida, and I have never seen a union shop. I have > worked on commercial and government buildings that have the tightest > requirements, so if any union work is around, that would be where I > would expect to see it. > Looks like plenty of union representation in Florida. http://www.ibew.org/IBEW/directory/SearchDirectory/States.asp?State=FL&District=5 jim menning Article: 328342 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Motorola 3-way portable radio model 52L1A, chassis HS-357 From: "M_K" Message-ID: <00Lsf.6086$lv3.2231@trndny03> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 06:04:44 GMT Does anyone here have the schematic for the above? Article: 328343 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <1135820954.868649.144240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is AM stereo dead? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 06:18:25 GMT Hi! If you're not finding anything local, go a little further out (or a lot further). I know of several stations in this area (Illinois) broadcasting in AM stereo, as I have a capable receiver in the form of an older Sony car radio. If you can pick anything up from Illinois (or other states) then you might try that. A very few of the stations (perhaps only one) makes mention of the fact that they do broadcast in AM stereo. William Article: 328344 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43B3A235.5488C598@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <1135700227.797484.305690@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135823996.837012.264030@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <43B36DA8.2723C9ED@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 08:45:56 GMT jim menning wrote: > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message > news:43B36DA8.2723C9ED@earthlink.net... > > > > > > A "union" electrician? I have worked for some large electrical > > contractors here in Florida, and I have never seen a union shop. I have > > worked on commercial and government buildings that have the tightest > > requirements, so if any union work is around, that would be where I > > would expect to see it. > > > > Looks like plenty of union representation in Florida. > > http://www.ibew.org/IBEW/directory/SearchDirectory/States.asp?State=FL&District=5 > > jim menning The only IBEW I've run into in Florida work for the telephone companies. Some out of state contractors on big jobs bring union electricians to the job, but I've never seen any doing residential work in this area. I've heard of a couple union shops around Dade county, but I've never been that far south. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 328345 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Original or a remuddle? Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 08:07:00 -0500 Message-ID: <11r7nrp7gqc4e38@corp.supernews.com> References: <8OednR1zYaga2i7enZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@sigecom.net> Mark Oppat wrote: > if you need them, just buy some slightly weak 250's... the orientals won't > touch them. Asians, Mark, Asians- the Orient has been canceled along with Peking, Kampuchea, etc. It think it's because people were so confused when everyone began using the word "orientated" when they mean "oriented". John H. Article: 328346 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Question Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 08:53:29 -0500 Message-ID: <11r7qiqjrr9bsaa@corp.supernews.com> References: GBrown wrote: > tubes are 8-pin octal "G" type > says "RADIO CORPORATION OF AMERICA". > Well, it must be an RCA First two sentences clash as glass octal tubes are never from RCA but are a knockoff of metal tubes they invented. The "RCA" tag is just a licensing thing likely, these are far more common than actual RCA brand radios. I see no 6V6 model in Riders either. John H. Article: 328347 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Question Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 06:51:08 -0700 Message-ID: <29602-43B3E9CC-17@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> References: Post a picture Article: 328348 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: So what is on AM these days ? Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 06:56:12 -0700 Message-ID: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> I am beginning to worry just a little about AM these days . Around here they have stripped 99% of anyting worth istening to . I talk to a friend here who owns several christan FM radio stations . He claims both AM and FM to some point are struggling to stay alive these days . Any comments ? Article: 328349 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:31:11 -0330 "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:jf-dnaNxKPE7Oy3eRVn-og@comcast.com... > around here its rare to have any outside disconnect unless the service > panel > (breaker box) is more than 3' from where the mains cable enters into the > home. In that case, an outside disconnect is required. > > I dont recommend 200A panels. Its overkill. 100 to 150A is plenty for > any > normal home, but you want to make sure you have plenty of breaker slots > for > your needs. > > If you have a good size in -home shop, 200A might be a good idea. > > Mark Oppat > Mark: Here (eastern Canada) we use electricity for heating. A 200 amp service entrance is and has been mandatory for the last 30 years for any 'normal sized' residence using electrical heating. This house (1550 sq ft. plus attached garage and storeroom totalling 400 sq feet, with a full in ground basement) was built 35 years and like all house then constructed had 200A. Even though reduced energy loss construction has also been introduced during the same period. I noticed a very large house recently that had two 200 amp service pipes! I agree with plenty of slots or suitable 'sub-panels'. e.g. a 50 amp in the basement workshop including 230 volts for bench saw etc. and another to service garage and storeroom including a 230 outlet for occasional use of a small welder. Article: 328350 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim Barnard" Subject: Re: Zenith Web Site Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:26:27 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1135855429.556588.85840@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> If you are interested in history and repair of Zenith transistor radios, you can check out my Website www.transistor-repairs.com This site is devoted to Zeniths. Jim Barnard "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1135855429.556588.85840@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Greetings all. Does anyone know of a web site devoted to Zenith > radios? More specifically something like the Philco sites with > information on service and repair. Thanks, GB. > Article: 328351 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim Barnard" Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:29:36 -0500 Message-ID: References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> In my town, there are two AM's left. One plays conservative talk all day and the other is a Christian broadcasting outfit. Jim "Ken G." wrote in message news:29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net... >I am beginning to worry just a little about AM these days . Around here > they have stripped 99% of anyting worth istening to . > I talk to a friend here who owns several christan FM radio stations . He > claims both AM and FM to some point are struggling to stay alive these > days . > Any comments ? > Article: 328352 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43B3F35F.5040609@worldnet.att.net> From: Al Schapira Subject: Its ALIVE! Re: Any Freed-Eisemann aficionados out there? Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 14:30:39 GMT With thanks to all who helped and provided information and encouragement, I am happy to say that I have gotten my Freed-Eisemann FE-15 restored and working. For those interested, I have put together a web page with photos and text detailing the restoration. See http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/FE15/index.html Any recommendations for an appropriate speaker/horn that might have been used with an FE-15? Anyone have two Freed-Eisemann small rheostat knobs, type 385? They are engraved 100 - 0 over 270 degrees, about 2 1/2 " in dia. Thanks again for your help, advice, opinions, comments. -Al Article: 328353 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Original or a remuddle? Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 07:36:40 -0700 Message-ID: References: <8OednR1zYaga2i7enZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@sigecom.net> <11r7nrp7gqc4e38@corp.supernews.com> "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11r7nrp7gqc4e38@corp.supernews.com... > > > Mark Oppat wrote: >> if you need them, just buy some slightly weak 250's... the orientals >> won't >> touch them. > > Asians, Mark, Asians- the Orient has been canceled along with Peking, > Kampuchea, etc. It think it's because people were so confused when > everyone began using the word "orientated" when they mean "oriented". you can still use the word oriental if you dont live in north america. americans that have deemed the word evil and i think canada maybe too and thats really about it. randy Article: 328354 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <43B17057.4DB773C2@earthlink.net> <1v-dnXt__JZB_y_enZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com> <11r6k1jte0p120b@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 07:55:14 -0700 Hagstar wrote: > No section of any wall may be more than 6 feet from the nearest outlet > > ALL isolated sections of wall more than 2 feet wide MUST have an outlet. John - I wish this were true. Or perhaps the code has changed in the past ten years. But as I am sitting here in my house in Arizona, built in 1992, I see more exceptions to these rules than examples of their being followed. A fourteen foot section of wall with one outlet. Hallways with no outlets. Six foot wall sections with none. Outlet strings that run all over the house, fed through one GFI outlet that I can never find when it pops. A three-car garage with one (count 'em, one) duplex outlet for the whole thing. No outlets in the attic. One outdoor outlet. (Perhaps garage, attic, and outside have different rules.) However, they DID adhere to the (in my mind) idiotic rule that each room must have one switched outlet on the wall far from the door. I really dislike that one. This is a Del Webb tract home. They put 'em up 20 at a time and then have all the inspectors come in for one giant inspection-fest. Del Webb is a reputable builder, as you may know if you've spent much time anywhere in the west. The company can't afford rework time and cost to cover inspection failures, so they have a very rigid code of their own for the tradesmen to follow. It seems to work. My conclusion has to be that it meets code. And then there is the matter of zip wiring the outlets - but I'll leave that for another day. Bill Jeffrey Article: 328355 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rick" References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <43B17057.4DB773C2@earthlink.net> <1v-dnXt__JZB_y_enZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com> <11r6k1jte0p120b@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:40:38 GMT "Bill Jeffrey" wrote in message news:aMSsf.1635$V.1156@fed1read04... > Hagstar wrote: > > > No section of any wall may be more than 6 feet from the nearest outlet > > > > ALL isolated sections of wall more than 2 feet wide MUST have an outlet. > > John - > > I wish this were true. Well, it IS true. Sadly, from your description, none of it was followed. > Or perhaps the code has changed in the past ten years. Nope, been that way for quite a while. By the way, there is no direct requirement for switched outlets, but there must be a switch at the entrance to a room to turn on an illumination device. If the room has no ceiling light (like a living room), a lamp is plugged into a switched outlet to meet that requirement. The garage, attic, and outdoor work met the minimal requirements. Cheap builder, useless inspectors... > But as I am sitting here in my house in Arizona, built in 1992, > I see more exceptions to these rules than examples of their being > followed. A fourteen foot section of wall with one outlet. Hallways > with no outlets. Six foot wall sections with none. Outlet strings that > run all over the house, fed through one GFI outlet that I can never find > when it pops. A three-car garage with one (count 'em, one) duplex > outlet for the whole thing. No outlets in the attic. One outdoor > outlet. (Perhaps garage, attic, and outside have different rules.) > However, they DID adhere to the (in my mind) idiotic rule that each room > must have one switched outlet on the wall far from the door. I really > dislike that one. > > This is a Del Webb tract home. They put 'em up 20 at a time and then > have all the inspectors come in for one giant inspection-fest. Del Webb > is a reputable builder, as you may know if you've spent much time > anywhere in the west. The company can't afford rework time and cost to > cover inspection failures, so they have a very rigid code of their own > for the tradesmen to follow. It seems to work. My conclusion has to be > that it meets code. > > And then there is the matter of zip wiring the outlets - but I'll leave > that for another day. > > Bill Jeffrey Article: 328356 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: TEST EQUIPMENT SCHEMATICS Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 11:19:12 -0500 I know there's a site with down loadable schematics but can't find it in my bookmarks. Would appreciate any help. Ken Article: 328357 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Electric phonograph motor needed Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:42:37 -0600 Message-ID: <14405-43B411FD-65@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: Mineral Spirits is good for cleaning up electric motors and many other things too,it is also safe. cuhulin Article: 328358 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:39:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <1135700227.797484.305690@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1135823996.837012.264030@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <43B36DA8.2723C9ED@earthlink.net> <43B3A235.5488C598@earthlink.net> In <43B3A235.5488C598@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: >The only IBEW I've run into in Florida work for the telephone companies. I didn't know that. I always thought telco's had their own union. Or is that just the communications folks and the power people are IBEW? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 328359 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: TEST EQUIPMENT SCHEMATICS Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 12:34:31 -0500 "Ken" wrote in message news:j0Usf.18096$Ou3.5398@dukeread09... >I know there's a site with down loadable schematics but can't find it in my >bookmarks. Would appreciate any help. Ken http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/ Syl Article: 328360 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Its ALIVE! Re: Any Freed-Eisemann aficionados out there? References: <43B3F35F.5040609@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:42:02 GMT Al Schapira wrote: > With thanks to all who helped and provided information and > encouragement, I am happy to say that I have gotten my > Freed-Eisemann FE-15 restored and working. Way cool Al, y'all done good. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328361 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Zenith Web Site Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:57:11 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1135855429.556588.85840@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1135855429.556588.85840@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "RadioGary" writes: >Greetings all. Does anyone know of a web site devoted to Zenith >radios? More specifically something like the Philco sites with >information on service and repair. Thanks, GB. Not a lot of technical information (although I haven't gone through the entire site), but http://www.oldradiozone.com/ has lots of pictures, "with an obvious Zenith radio bias". There's also the Zenith Oracle: http://www.oldradios.com/reference/zenith.htm -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 328362 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:00:12 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> In <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) writes: >I am beginning to worry just a little about AM these days . Around here >they have stripped 99% of anyting worth istening to . >I talk to a friend here who owns several christan FM radio stations . He >claims both AM and FM to some point are struggling to stay alive these >days . >Any comments ? Think of AM as a wireless connection between your radio and in-house program source. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 328363 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: TEST EQUIPMENT SCHEMATICS References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 13:41:35 -0500 Thanks, Syl Syl wrote: > "Ken" wrote in message > news:j0Usf.18096$Ou3.5398@dukeread09... > >>I know there's a site with down loadable schematics but can't find it in my >>bookmarks. Would appreciate any help. Ken > > > http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/ > > Syl > > Article: 328364 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Al Z." References: <1135855429.556588.85840@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Web Site Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 12:43:23 -0500 Message-ID: <43b42d34$0$3122$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com> Try: http://www.radioblvd.com/ZenithPhoto.htm "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1135855429.556588.85840@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Greetings all. Does anyone know of a web site devoted to Zenith > radios? More specifically something like the Philco sites with > information on service and repair. Thanks, GB. > Article: 328365 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:25:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> <1135872659.197507.142410@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In "Mark Oppat" writes: >We just lost all our fantastic daytime music shows here in Detroit at WDET >FM our long revelled Public Station! I guess because I'm a pre-war kinda guy, FM's not the same for me. I used to listen to Rich Conaty's The Big Broadcast and Big Band Saturday Night here in NYC when he was on AM, but it lost its charm when he moved to FM. >The new program director there says that donations were down and that folks >just listen to music off their computers! I think donations were down here >because Michigan is in a depression economically. Also, I want a host to >play the tunes so I can discover music! That is what our top notch hosts >did here... they took you into new territory. I hate just listening to my >own CD's! As I'm sure you know, there are DJ's on Internet streams. Just a different delivery medium, that's all.` >"The more you like music, the more music you like" someone said, and I >believe it. A musician friend always says "You should listen to something new every day." That stresses me out sometimes, however :), and I get lazy and just wait for his band to come out with a new CD. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 328366 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 13:24:00 -0600 Message-ID: <19245-43B437D0-63@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> Those three crazy guys,Paul Gallo and JT and Dave radio talk shows on 97.3 FM www.supertalkms.com and www.us963.com Country Music on 96.3 FM and WJNT 1180 on AM.There are dozens more local area FM and AM radio stations around here, (www.devilfinder.com Radio Stations Mississippi) but 97.3 FM and (my favorite local area radio station 96.3 FM) and WJNT AM are my favorites. cuhulin Article: 328367 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43B43A55.4CE263F8@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <43B17057.4DB773C2@earthlink.net> <1v-dnXt__JZB_y_enZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com> <11r6k1jte0p120b@corp.supernews.com> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:35:04 GMT Rick wrote: > > "Bill Jeffrey" wrote in message > news:aMSsf.1635$V.1156@fed1read04... > > Hagstar wrote: > > > > > No section of any wall may be more than 6 feet from the nearest outlet > > > > > > ALL isolated sections of wall more than 2 feet wide MUST have an outlet. > > > > John - > > > > I wish this were true. > > Well, it IS true. Sadly, from your description, none of it was followed. > > > Or perhaps the code has changed in the past ten years. > > Nope, been that way for quite a while. By the way, there is no direct requirement for > switched outlets, but there must be a switch at the entrance to a room to turn on an > illumination device. If the room has no ceiling light (like a living room), a lamp is > plugged into a switched outlet to meet that requirement. > > The garage, attic, and outdoor work met the minimal requirements. Cheap builder, useless > inspectors... They were in the news a lot after the hurricanes hit Florida last year for damage caused by all their shortcuts. It was strange that every building inspector who signed off their work were no longer around when the hurricanes hit. :-( -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 328368 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 13:43:53 -0600 Message-ID: <43b43b02$0$3128$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com> "Ken G." wrote in message news:29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net... >I am beginning to worry just a little about AM these days . Around here > they have stripped 99% of anyting worth istening to . > I talk to a friend here who owns several christan FM radio stations . He > claims both AM and FM to some point are struggling to stay alive these > days . > Any comments ? > Well, it seems to me that in order to keep running, radio stations have to sell advertising. Advertisers choose stations where their message is heard and attracts people who will buy things from them. If a station flips formats, it seems to me that they think they can get more advertising revenue from listeners who would prefer the new format. Which means, essentially, that if you can't find anything on the radio you like to listen to, you aren't a profitable source of revenue. Why do you think every town has an urban music (what they used to call top-40) station? Kids listen to it. Kids will spend money on things that are advertised to them. Morals of the story: (1) I don't think there's any conspiracy to put crap on the radio. There's crap on the radio because many people listen to crap. (2) If you have a station you like to listen to, patronize its advertisers and tell them that you heard their ad on your favorite station. That encourages them to continue buying advertising on that station, which keeps the $$$ rolling in which keeps the station going. Of course, part of the problem is that nobody wants to be part of a mass market anymore. When there were only a few radio stations you had to listen to one of them, or listen to your records at home. Nowadays with the easy availabilty of portable high-quality recordings (both on CD and iPod/MP3), streaming Internet radio and satellite radio people are getting very picky about what they listen to, which makes targeting a mass market more difficult. I think to a certain extent radio stations nowadays are throwing ideas at the wall just to see if something sticks, because what used to work doesn't as well anymore. No facts to back that up; just how it looks to me...... JM2c paul Article: 328369 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 13:36:50 -0600 Message-ID: <19245-43B43AD2-67@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1135872659.197507.142410@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Gone like a Freightrain goneeee yesterdayyyyyy,,,,,,,,, gone like a Civil War Soldier yesterdayyyyyy,,,,,, goneeeeee,,,,,,,,,, Where I come frommmmm,,, it's cornbread and chickennnn,,,,,,,, working hardddd tying to get to Heaven,, where I come fromm,,,,,,,,,, www.us963.com Jacksonnnnnnn,,,,, cuhulin Article: 328370 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: How to wire variac with voltmeter and ammeter? References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:50:01 GMT Phil Nelson wrote: > The internal connections are shown here: > > http://antiqueradio.org/art/temp/Variac.jpg > > I guess terminal 3 is the variable output, and I would put the ammeter in > series with that terminal and the line going to the radio. I suppose the > voltmeter would be wired across that terminal and one of the others. > > My feeble brain doesn't quite grasp why there are four other terminals . . . Connect Input NEUTRAL to terminal (4) Connect Input HOT to terminal (2) Connect Output (hot) to Terminal (3) and (neutral) to Terminal (4) If you use an ampmeter, put it in series with Terminal (3) and the output receptacle. If you use a voltmeter, Put it across terminal (3) and (4) If, for example, your line voltage is 110 VAC, connect the input HOT to Terminal (1) instead of Terminal (2). This will allow you to go from 0-130 VAC instead of 0-110 VAC. Put a 3 Amp circuit breaker in series with the OUTPUT lead on Terminal (3) The overall current rating of the windings is limited to 2.4 Amps. A 3 Amp circuit breaker gives you a little bit of margin, but will still protect the windings if something silly happens. (Like shorting the suicide cord you're using.) Put a 4 Amp fuse in series with the INPUT lead on Terminal (2) (Or (1) if you're boosting). This will protect the variac and internal wiring in case something dreadful happens. For metering, might I suggest the MFJ limited range AC volt meter. http://www.mfjenterprises.com/products.php?prodid=MFJ-850 It reads from 95-135 VAC. For the Amp meter, 3 Amps full scale. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328371 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43B43E45.4B0C1927@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: How to wire variac with voltmeter and ammeter? References: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:51:52 GMT Phil Nelson wrote: > > Secret Santa generously sent me a NIB General RadioW2 variac (thanks, man!). > I would like to wire it up with a voltmeter to show output voltage and an > ammeter to show current draw. > > The internal connections are shown here: > > http://antiqueradio.org/art/temp/Variac.jpg > > I guess terminal 3 is the variable output, and I would put the ammeter in > series with that terminal and the line going to the radio. I suppose the > voltmeter would be wired across that terminal and one of the others. Yes, the ammeter goes in series with the load, and the volt meter goes >from terminal 3 to the neutral connection on the unit. > My feeble brain doesn't quite grasp why there are four other terminals . . . You can use it for 0 to 120 volts, or 0 to 140 volts out. If you need to, you can use it for 20 to 120 volts out, or 20 to 140 volts out. The simplest way is to connect the line and neutral to terminals 2 & 4 for line and load for 0 to 120 operation. If it operates in the wrong direction, switch the wires to these two terminals. > Any help? > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > to contact me via email, kindly go to http://antiqueradio.org/contact.htm -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 328372 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43B43F0F.248DECFD@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Is AM stereo dead? References: <1135820954.868649.144240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:55:14 GMT AuroraOldRadios wrote: > > My tuner is digital with the Motorola C-quam, so it's a matter of > knowing the frequency to tune and pointing an antenna in the right > direction. I opened it up because I was hoping to find a clue about who > made it (MCS of course, is JC Penney, but who knows who actually made > it). > I had a Dodge car many years ago with AMS, but that was when there were > several stations worth listening to. A friend of mine is an engineer at several AM stations. he told me that all of them had shut down their stereo equipment because they had to spend more money to keep the old transmitters working well enough for the stereo to work right, but the could run marginal final and modulator tubes in mono. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 328373 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Knight KG-663 power supply Message-ID: <1pXsf.58664$4l5.1839@dukeread05> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:11:00 -0500 50V, 2A. anyone have a schematic? I have checked BAMA. Thanks, Ken Article: 328374 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rick" References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <43B17057.4DB773C2@earthlink.net> <1v-dnXt__JZB_y_enZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com> <11r6k1jte0p120b@corp.supernews.com> <43B43A55.4CE263F8@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:59:54 GMT "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:43B43A55.4CE263F8@earthlink.net... > Rick wrote: > > > > "Bill Jeffrey" wrote in message > > news:aMSsf.1635$V.1156@fed1read04... > > > Hagstar wrote: > > > > > > > No section of any wall may be more than 6 feet from the nearest outlet > > > > > > > > ALL isolated sections of wall more than 2 feet wide MUST have an outlet. > > > > > > John - > > > > > > I wish this were true. > > > > Well, it IS true. Sadly, from your description, none of it was followed. > > > > > Or perhaps the code has changed in the past ten years. > > > > Nope, been that way for quite a while. By the way, there is no direct requirement for > > switched outlets, but there must be a switch at the entrance to a room to turn on an > > illumination device. If the room has no ceiling light (like a living room), a lamp is > > plugged into a switched outlet to meet that requirement. I could have worded this a little better. There has to be a source of illumination that is controlled by a wall switch in every habitable room and bathroom. Also suppose to be one in an attic or crawlspace. Hallways were allowe dto be 10 feet of wall unborken by openings. > > The garage, attic, and outdoor work met the minimal requirements. Cheap builder, useless > > inspectors... > > > They were in the news a lot after the hurricanes hit Florida last > year for damage caused by all their shortcuts. It was strange that every > building inspector who signed off their work were no longer around when > the hurricanes hit. :-( I could just imagine the detailed inspections. Probably were "I know the builder real well" drive bys! > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 328375 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Is AM stereo dead? Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 14:51:30 -0600 Message-ID: <19245-43B44C52-73@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <43B43F0F.248DECFD@earthlink.net> Money talks.WPBQ 1240 AM used to be a good radio news talk station here in the Jackson area.About three something years ago,along comes ESPN throwing money to WMPQ and suddenly,no more news talk radio programs on WPBQ that I liked to listen to.There used to be a nice Bluegrass radio station here,within this year,they went full time Spanish music broadcasting.I like sports talk once in a while,but there are and were already a few full time sports radio talk show stations around here. cuhulin Article: 328376 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Original or a remuddle? References: <8OednR1zYaga2i7enZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@sigecom.net> <11r7nrp7gqc4e38@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <9sYsf.10909$3Z.1604@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:22:13 GMT >> if you need them, just buy some slightly weak 250's... the orientals >> won't >> touch them. > > Asians, Mark, Asians- the Orient has been canceled along with Peking, > Kampuchea, etc. It think it's because people were so confused when > everyone began using the word "orientated" when they mean "oriented". > From what I've heard lately, "Asians" is for the people, "oriental" is for things. Article: 328377 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:26:27 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Original or a remuddle? References: <8OednR1zYaga2i7enZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@sigecom.net> <11r7nrp7gqc4e38@corp.supernews.com> <9sYsf.10909$3Z.1604@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: robert casey wrote: > From what I've heard lately, "Asians" is for the people, "oriental" is > for things. Makes ya wonder whats in your food at an Asian Restaurant. Article: 328378 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Is AM stereo dead? References: <1135820954.868649.144240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <-bydnYBwS50vfS7eRVn-jw@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:27:08 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: > It's possible you weren't tuning carefully enough. Stereo AM (not AM stereo) > tuning is more fussy than stereo FM. > > It can take several seconds for an AM stereo demodulator to detect and lock onto a stereo signal. Twiddling an analog tuning knob while it's trying to lock on slows it down. Article: 328379 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <8OednR1zYaga2i7enZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@sigecom.net> <11r7nrp7gqc4e38@corp.supernews.com> <9sYsf.10909$3Z.1604@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Original or a remuddle? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:36:40 -0500 "Bill" wrote in message news:cc253$43b45485$4232bd1e$13344@COQUI.NET... > robert casey wrote: > > > From what I've heard lately, "Asians" is for the people, "oriental" is > > for things. > > Makes ya wonder whats in your food at an Asian Restaurant. > http://www.bobrivers.com/player/player.asp?atype=tunes&ID=1048&Speed=3 Article: 328380 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephen Wild" References: <1135117110.922609.96110@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: You guys remember Allan Sherman's 12 Days of Christmas? Message-ID: <2RYsf.103$En.7@read2.cgocable.net> Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:44:56 -0500 It is available on CD as well - includes Camp Granada and others less famous. "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:doadi6$ivt$1@news2.kornet.net... > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:wO0qf.6708$Tg2.23@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... > > Remember it well because I have it. I believe it's on the album, "My Son > > The Celebrity." > > > > How about "Headaches"? (sung to the tune of "Heartaches") > > > Article: 328381 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> <1135872659.197507.142410@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:56:54 GMT shoppa@trailing-edge.com wrote: >>Around here they have stripped 99% of anyting worth istening to. > > > Pretty much true for my local stations as well. In the evening though, > MW DXing has been wonderful here lately, and I get MW stations from all > over the east half of North America, including Canada and Mexico, and > the clear-channel stations generally have decent programming (sporting > events, real DJ's with real programs, extensive local news, etc.) > WABC 770KHz New York has been playing oldies music Saturday nights 6pm to 10pm lately. You should be able to hear them; they're on a "clear channel" frequency at night. Religion programming is a strange creature on radio, people buy time on a station to play tapes of some preacher or such, and it doesn't matter to the station's owners if anyone listens. There's usually more people looking to buy time slots than hours in the day, so it's essentially a cash cow. I've heard it said that the USA government never needed to build SW jamming transmitters. THey just had the FCC assign SW religious stations on whatever frequency jamming was desired on. So the "Voice of the Democratic Republic of Buttwipeastan" gets clobbered by "Brother Billy Saw Hargeious' Discount House of Worship" from Delreo Texas, the home of Holyland USA, the world's first religious amusement park... Article: 328382 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> <43b43b02$0$3128$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:59:58 GMT > Well, it seems to me that in order to keep running, radio stations have to > sell advertising. Advertisers choose stations where their message is heard > and attracts people who will buy things from them. > "WABC, the station that loves you because your ears are a saleable commidity" :-) > Article: 328383 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Original or a remuddle? Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 22:28:28 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <8OednR1zYaga2i7enZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@sigecom.net> <11r7nrp7gqc4e38@corp.supernews.com> In "Mark Oppat" writes: >dont know why I used that word, it IS archaic, isnt it? >got so many numbers in my head the words jamb up. Jam. Ya just gots too many threads going on, Mark. Jamb came from the construction/electrical thread. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 328384 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> <43b43b02$0$3128$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com> Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 00:01:53 GMT I was about to say something about the media market, but Paul just said much of it for me. The radio pretty much plays what they believe people will listen to. Once upon a time it was soap operas during the day, comedy and drama during the evenings, and music late at night -- and you had better like big band, cause that's what they played. When television became popular, the soaps, comedies, and drama migrated, and the radio was left with music. At the time people griped because "rock 'n roll" was getting popular, but if you merely changed stations you could usually get your share of the big band, country, or even elevator music. Today we have a lot of AM stations, a lot of FM stations, stations on satellite radio, and plenty to listen to on the internet -- so there's more content than ever. But there's a down side -- and this is most likely why people are complaining. To listen to it all you need AM, FM, XM, satellite or cable TV, and an online computer. If you like old time radio there's plenty of it, but not necessarily on your local AM radio station. If you like classical, chances are you'll find it, but not on AM. Why? Because people who listen to classical music are audiophiles, and the music sounds better on FM or satellite. Meanwhile the talk shows, the news, and your local high school football game sound every bit as clear on your AM radio as it does anywhere else -- and since the airtime is cheaper, that's where you'll likely find it. Bottom line is that AM radio is not dead -- but with fewer listeners it has become less expensive and more open, and thus it contains programs that don't require as many listeners to sustain. If you want to produce a show in Spanish, French, or Navaho, in the past it wasn't feasible, but today there may be an AM time slot for the right price -- which means if you tune AM, you'll find lots of foreign language shows, along with shows about fishing, computers, health foods, old cars, and whatnot. If I want to produce a show about collecting old radios for example, I know for a fact I can go downtown and get a full hour for $150, and this includes promos to advertise the show. I can go out myself and get sponsors, or I can simply buy it if I'm rich and like to yik-yak, but for that price I can be on the air tomorrow. I've even thought about doing this -- I'd love to do some call-in chat with collectors and people who "just inherited" a family radio, and including an assortment of old time radio, but I'm way too busy to do the show, let alone beat the streets for sponsors. Bottom line of all this rambling is this: radio is better than it has ever been, but not necessarily in the right places for us collectors. However with a computer and an AMT-3000, there's no limit to what you can receive on that Midwest console in your living room. So what do I listen to? Either my Atwater Kent 60 or my Knight 2000. WAMR, the "Dove", has been playing some nice Christmas music for the past few weeks, and I've enjoyed it immensely. However now they're playing Sinatra and friends -- okay if I'm in the mood. Afternoons I listen to Rush and Hannity. Sometimes I play episodes of Jack Benny or the Shadow. Sometimes I turn it off because I'm tuning another radio on the bench. I don't seek out oldies music, classic rock, or any similar formats, only because these stations are designed for short-trip car listening and I get tired of hearing the same 30 songs over and over. But whatever's out there, if I want to hear it I can find a way. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:43b43b02$0$3128$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com... > "Ken G." wrote in message > news:29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net... >>I am beginning to worry just a little about AM these days . Around here >> they have stripped 99% of anyting worth istening to . >> I talk to a friend here who owns several christan FM radio stations . He >> claims both AM and FM to some point are struggling to stay alive these >> days . >> Any comments ? >> > Well, it seems to me that in order to keep running, radio stations have to > sell advertising. Advertisers choose stations where their message is heard > and attracts people who will buy things from them. > > If a station flips formats, it seems to me that they think they can get > more > advertising revenue from listeners who would prefer the new format. Which > means, essentially, that if you can't find anything on the radio you like > to > listen to, you aren't a profitable source of revenue. Why do you think > every > town has an urban music (what they used to call top-40) station? Kids > listen > to it. Kids will spend money on things that are advertised to them. > > Morals of the story: > (1) I don't think there's any conspiracy to put crap on the radio. There's > crap on the radio because many people listen to crap. > (2) If you have a station you like to listen to, patronize its advertisers > and tell them that you heard their ad on your favorite station. That > encourages them to continue buying advertising on that station, which > keeps > the $$$ rolling in which keeps the station going. > > Of course, part of the problem is that nobody wants to be part of a mass > market anymore. When there were only a few radio stations you had to > listen > to one of them, or listen to your records at home. Nowadays with the easy > availabilty of portable high-quality recordings (both on CD and iPod/MP3), > streaming Internet radio and satellite radio people are getting very picky > about what they listen to, which makes targeting a mass market more > difficult. I think to a certain extent radio stations nowadays are > throwing > ideas at the wall just to see if something sticks, because what used to > work > doesn't as well anymore. No facts to back that up; just how it looks to > me...... > > JM2c > paul > > Article: 328385 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: How to wire variac with voltmeter and ammeter? Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 00:59:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <43B43E45.4B0C1927@earthlink.net> <1135901447.979258.38720@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In "Phil Nelson" writes: >Well, the coffee-can solution is definitely on par with my metalworking >skills and equipment! I'm pretty sure I can dig up a tin snips, various >screwdrivers, and a few worn-out files, but that's about it. I really would >like to put everything into one case, however. Maybe I'll have to pick up a >couple of new tools if I decide to use one of the prefab aluminum or steel >enclosures. I hear Eddie's got a milling machine. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 328386 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:24:20 -0330 "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:ZfydnWmAFNYVySneRVn-vg@sigecom.net... > Crap, bible thumping and a lot of static and buzzing. > > B. Right on Bruce. Just listening, for example, to some guy on 'Supertalk radio'. All very negative and the guy is paranoid! Anti almost everything? And no opinions can be expressed other than his own. Haven't heard anything positive or encouraging! Article: 328387 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 20:20:29 -0500 Message-ID: <11r92r218ci4f3d@corp.supernews.com> References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> With my standard complement of 75 ft. antenna and RF/2 IF stage radio at night, I have at *least* one station every 10 kc along the entire dial except the very low end where there might be a couple missing. 95% is endless lies from talk and Bible Terrorists. That leaves perhaps 6 great music stations- WKBW 1520 Buffalo, NY being my favorite. Ken G. should have some great stations out of California and Colorado- Denver has some great music and that's just a short hop on AM. If you don't get them, Ken, I suggest not saying it is impossible and trying a longer higher antenna and staying up later. I also get three good local music stations- WIRY Plattsburg, and one >from Ft. Ticonderoga NY as well as a little 1 kw in Middlebury VT. John H. Article: 328388 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 02:06:44 GMT > including a 230 outlet for occasional use of a > small welder. > I have a couple of 230V 60Hz 15A outlets for some of my European, Australian or my modified AA5 radios, see at http://pw2.netcom.com/~wa2ise/radios/aa5240v.html Turns out that Hubbell (a major manufacturer of electrical plugs, outlets and switches) made outlets that are of the same size and pattern as the Australian "craw foot" patterned outlet. About 50 years ago. With the UL listing. So I used it in my house. Of course it's 60Hz, not 50Hz, and is center tapped to ground instead of one end of the 230V tied to ground, but any well designed radio won't care. Article: 328389 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Is AM stereo dead? References: <1135820954.868649.144240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <-bydnYBwS50vfS7eRVn-jw@comcast.com> <64WdncG5fsOq9CnenZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 02:13:34 GMT > > > As someone once pointed out... "FM stereo is stereo with flutter." > If you try to DX AM stereo stations in stereo, you often get "platform wobble" as weak co-channel signals sometimes show up as false quadrature phase signal. Urban legend has it that AM stereo transmission reduces the range of its signal for regular AM mono radio listeners. ANd that stations didn't want to pay that penalty for the benefit of 0.001% of their listeners... Article: 328390 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Is AM stereo dead? Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:16:14 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1135820954.868649.144240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <-bydnYBwS50vfS7eRVn-jw@comcast.com> <64WdncG5fsOq9CnenZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@comcast.com> "robert casey" wrote in message news:iJ0tf.10997$3Z.2019@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > >> >> >> As someone once pointed out... "FM stereo is stereo with flutter." >> > If you try to DX AM stereo stations in stereo, you often get > "platform wobble" as weak co-channel signals sometimes show up > as false quadrature phase signal. > > Urban legend has it that AM stereo transmission reduces the > range of its signal for regular AM mono radio listeners. ANd that > stations didn't want to pay that penalty for the benefit of 0.001% > of their listeners... That's all it is: Urban Legend. In fact, the mono signal range didn't change at all, and the range of the stereo signal was nearly identical. Article: 328391 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:37:48 -0700 Message-ID: <28478-43B49D7C-50@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> References: <11r92r218ci4f3d@corp.supernews.com> I have tried good radios & such . I guess its my turn to have bad programing . I also understand the stations are for commercials and sales but i dont understand why they only cater to a few listeners . I know plenty of people who like older music but its all been pulled >from here . This town is pretty big and getting bigger and has all ages . At work i used to play our AM oldies rock & roll station and other workers would sing along quite a bit . Now no one sings , no one there wants to listen to country or pop . I dont know how the stations figure out what everyone listens to ? I know for a fact not many people go into a store and tell them they are buying here because KXXX advertised you . I dont think they have a clue . I think the people running the stations pick the music they like and dont care . There are no phone or mail surveys or any other surveys around here for them to get ideas from . There is a building in town housing 3 radio stations . These 3 stations change music types about once a year . More than i have ever heard one station change before . I would think any town would have at least 2 stations playing older music . One of our grocery stores had to install satelite to get older music ... what the majority of customers want . Oh well :-) Article: 328392 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bob Weiss Subject: Re: Secret Santa References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 03:09:09 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > Christmas is over, so I suppose it's time for everyone to tell us about the > Secret Santa gifts you received. > > Got a package containing TV test patterns (NTSC and monochrome "indian head") on 2 DVDs, a CD of Beitman's schematics, and a mid-60s looking transistor set that could use some TLC. Thanks, Santa! Bob Weiss N2IXK Article: 328393 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 03:12:16 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <11r92r218ci4f3d@corp.supernews.com> <28478-43B49D7C-50@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> In <28478-43B49D7C-50@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) writes: >I also understand the stations are for commercials and sales but i dont >understand why they only cater to a few listeners . >I know plenty of people who like older music but its all been pulled >from here. One of the hardest things to do is accurately gauge the percentage of the population at large who might be members of your particular peer group. In fact, I'd say it's well-nigh impossible. Fuh' instance, I really, really, can't fathom why anyone would not like antiques. I really can't. I accept it, but I can't understand it. This bias makes it hard for me to judge just how many folks in any given group might have the same tastes as I. >This town is pretty big and getting bigger and has all ages . At work i >used to play our AM oldies rock & roll station and other workers would >sing along quite a bit . >Now no one sings , no one there wants to listen to country or pop . I'm sure you know that unless your town's population is shy of three digits, that's not a statistically significant sample. But I hear ya, brother. I'm one of the few at my joint who likes hardcore industrial. Can't understand that, either. :) Nowadays if I want radio I tune into DigitalGunfire.com out of Detroit. >I dont think they have a clue . I think the people running the stations >pick the music they like and dont care . There are no phone or mail >surveys or any other surveys around here for them to get ideas from . Ever know anyone with a Neilsen box glomped onto their teevee? (Do they even still use them?) I haven't. But there must've been a metric buttload of them out there. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 328394 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1135906041.876756.150300@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: How to wire variac with voltmeter and ammeter? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 03:59:31 GMT I have a friend that has his built in an small old battery set cabinet. Black panel, black knobs, old style meters. Looks really cool. Ron Article: 328395 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <11r92r218ci4f3d@corp.supernews.com> <28478-43B49D7C-50@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 22:08:28 -0600 Message-ID: <43b4af54$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net> Ken, go visit www.arbitron.com. That's the company that calculates ratings. It's done with a diary system. There is a statistically significant number of people in your radio market who are writing down everything they listen to, then submit the data to Arbitron. They're piloting an electronic system though. If you click "Topline Ratings" on the right, you can see how every station in your market rates. Interesting stuff. paul "Ken G." wrote in message news:28478-43B49D7C-50@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net... >I have tried good radios & such . I guess its my turn to have bad > programing . > I also understand the stations are for commercials and sales but i dont > understand why they only cater to a few listeners . > I know plenty of people who like older music but its all been pulled > from here . > This town is pretty big and getting bigger and has all ages . At work i > used to play our AM oldies rock & roll station and other workers would > sing along quite a bit . > Now no one sings , no one there wants to listen to country or pop . > I dont know how the stations figure out what everyone listens to ? I > know for a fact not many people go into a store and tell them they are > buying here because KXXX advertised you . > I dont think they have a clue . I think the people running the stations > pick the music they like and dont care . There are no phone or mail > surveys or any other surveys around here for them to get ideas from . > There is a building in town housing 3 radio stations . These 3 stations > change music types about once a year . More than i have ever heard one > station change before . > I would think any town would have at least 2 stations playing older > music . One of our grocery stores had to install satelite to get older > music ... what the majority of customers want . > > Oh well :-) > Article: 328396 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 00:42:34 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> <1135915807.418827.15430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <87988$43b4bac1$4232bdc9$14475@COQUI.NET> RadioGary wrote: > year? Oh sure, we'd love to have that station go to an oldies or big > band format, but we're a minority of listeners and we don't control the > way a radio station is run. So Queer Channel buys up the trashy old AM > radio station, flips the switch on the satellite, and broadcasts > another one of those syndicated talk shows that's duplicated on seven > more radio stations. > My advice to you? Part > with twelve bucks a month and get XM Radio. That way you control the > programming, and the favorite format you choose will not go away. > Isn't Clear Channel a 25% owner of XM Radio? Seems they get your money either way. I'm totally against the concept of owning multiple stations in a market - particularly in a small or medium-sized market. Blame it on Bush or whatever...its simply bonehead and allows the big boys to gobble a disproportionate share. On the other hand I'm not necessarily anti-Clear Channel. I've seen instances where some areas wouldn't have squat for programming...and may have lost ALL their radio if a big-spender like CC hadn't come to town.. -Bill Article: 328397 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 05:07:07 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> <1135915807.418827.15430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <87988$43b4bac1$4232bdc9$14475@COQUI.NET> In <87988$43b4bac1$4232bdc9$14475@COQUI.NET> Bill writes: >I'm totally against the concept of owning multiple stations in a market >- particularly in a small or medium-sized market. Blame it on Bush or >whatever...its simply bonehead and allows the big boys to gobble a >disproportionate share. Wasn't that Reagan? Asking, here. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 328398 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DaveW Subject: Re: Original or a remuddle? References: <8OednR1zYaga2i7enZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@sigecom.net> <11r7nrp7gqc4e38@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 05:16:02 GMT xrongor wrote: > "Hagstar" wrote in message > news:11r7nrp7gqc4e38@corp.supernews.com... > >> >>Mark Oppat wrote: >> >>>if you need them, just buy some slightly weak 250's... the orientals >>>won't >>>touch them. >> >>Asians, Mark, Asians- the Orient has been canceled along with Peking, >>Kampuchea, etc. It think it's because people were so confused when >>everyone began using the word "orientated" when they mean "oriented". > > > > you can still use the word oriental if you dont live in north america. > americans that have deemed the word evil and i think canada maybe too and > thats really about it. > > randy > > I was told, by a person of Chinese dissent, in about 1983 or so, that Oriental was a style of furniture. Of course, Asian, the PC term, should include people from India, as far as I can tell. But at least here in the USA, Oriental is the equivalent of "colored" these days, so I learned to adjust. Regards, DAve Article: 328399 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 01:46:56 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Original or a remuddle? References: <8OednR1zYaga2i7enZ2dnUVZ_sudnZ2d@sigecom.net> <11r7nrp7gqc4e38@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <71362$43b4c9d3$4232bdc9$17675@COQUI.NET> DaveW wrote: > > I was told, by a person of Chinese dissent, > > DAve I didn't think they allowed that back in 1983? Oh, the irony that can be found in an innocent misspelling. -Bill Article: 328400 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 02:10:20 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> <1135915807.418827.15430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <87988$43b4bac1$4232bdc9$14475@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: John Byrns wrote: > In article <87988$43b4bac1$4232bdc9$14475@COQUI.NET>, Bill > wrote: > > >>I'm totally against the concept of owning multiple stations in a market >>- particularly in a small or medium-sized market. Blame it on Bush or >>whatever...its simply bonehead and allows the big boys to gobble a >>disproportionate share. > > > The multiple ownership thing was already going strong when Bush came in, > it must have been Clinton that did it. > > > Regards, > > John Byrns Begs the question...do these things really get signed off by the Oval Office or are they simply mandates of the FCC? The reason I ask, although its highly unlikely that it would ever happen, what does it take to undo something like this? If, for example, NPR were to pull a stunt like acquiring 4 or 5 stations in a market we'd think we were being overrun by the Nazi style of government media control. What if Al-Arabiya did it? I'm a good Bible-thumping Re-pub but this is an example of private enterprise getting too big for its britches...and when that happens at the expense of the Common Good, thats when the Feds are supposed to intervene. I guess the argument is that of "Common Good". I'll address that argument. (It worked well to break up Ma Bell) Media outlets have a very large influence on the public as a whole. When one media conglomerate has 20% listenership in a market, which isn't uncommon for CC, they have the ability to set trends and if you reach far enough, they can even upset the social fabric. I'm thinking dope-oriented and rap-violence type of stuff now. May be inadvertant and not intentional but... Arguing with myself now...their 20% isn't big cheese compared to the Big-3 TV days when a single network had up to a third of the market share. But the media behaves differently nowadays in that irresponsible in-yo-face anarchy is in vogue. What do you think? -Bill Article: 328401 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Secret Santa Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 00:23:45 -0700 Message-ID: References: I got a whole big box of stuff from my Secret Santa...a tube substitution guide, 2 CD's full of good radio repair info, a handbook on TV repair, a Sylvania tube characteristics manual, and my very own personalized degree >from The Radio City University proclaiming that I have earned a Doctorate of Radio Degree. It was a very good Christmas for me !!!! Thanks Santa, Ben Article: 328402 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) Subject: Re: Is AM stereo dead? Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 07:18:06 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1135820954.868649.144240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In article <1135820954.868649.144240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "AuroraOldRadios" wrote: > I bought an MCS AM Stereo/FM Stereo tuner yesterday. I was hoping > someone in Denver still broadcast AM stereo, but probably not. When was AM stereo broadcasting ever alive? I never did think it would go anywhere when proposed many years ago. Stereo broadcasting without the requisite fidelity didn't seem to make much sense. I lamented the loss of true (not matrixed) 4-channel hi-fi but one could argue that THX, Dolby NR and other sound processing techniques more than make up for it. Sincerely, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 Article: 328403 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Smokey" Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 06:23:52 -0600 Message-ID: <11ra9st8ffb5jab@corp.supernews.com> References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> If the "social engineers" at the FCC would quit trying to manipulate the industry, we'd still have radio in the USA. Radio "clusters" are a joke and here in northern Wisconsin you get (yawn) ESPN radio on half the stations and the same 20 cowboy songs played over and over on the rest. Radio sucks. It's the height of stupidity to pay for radio such as satelite radio services. It's no wonder people are willing to lay down ridiculoius sums of money to buy CDs for their cars. Smokey "Ken G." wrote in message news:29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net... > I am beginning to worry just a little about AM these days . Around here > they have stripped 99% of anyting worth istening to . > I talk to a friend here who owns several christan FM radio stations . He > claims both AM and FM to some point are struggling to stay alive these > days . > Any comments ? > Article: 328404 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Is AM stereo dead? Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:53:26 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1135820954.868649.144240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "J. B. Wood" wrote in message news:wood-3012050718220001@jbw-mac.itd.nrl.navy.mil... > In article <1135820954.868649.144240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > "AuroraOldRadios" wrote: > >> I bought an MCS AM Stereo/FM Stereo tuner yesterday. I was hoping >> someone in Denver still broadcast AM stereo, but probably not. > > When was AM stereo broadcasting ever alive? I never did think it would go > anywhere when proposed many years ago. Stereo broadcasting without the > requisite fidelity didn't seem to make much sense. I lamented the loss of > true (not matrixed) 4-channel hi-fi but one could argue that THX, Dolby NR > and other sound processing techniques more than make up for it. > Sincerely, AMS had the fidelity. From my experience as a listener, I heard very little difference in fidelity between AMS on a good tuner/car receiver and FMS. Of course, much depended on the station transmitting the signal, their antenna system, etc.. but there was no reason the fidelity couldn't be there. FCC even authorized the additional bandwidth for it. Article: 328405 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" Subject: Knob for Hallicrafter S-53? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:17:31 -0330 With many thanks again to those on < rec.antiques ...... who previously identified possible sources. But nothing yet! So; still seeking one used knob for the Vol, RF gain or Bandswitch position of a circa 1955 Hallicrafter S-53A. Knob is about one inch diameter and is serrated/ridged. The smaller knobs on this model do 'not have' round aluminum inserts or the silver inner rings of some Hallicrafter style knobs. I also have at least one of the slightly larger Hallicrafter style 'tuning/bandspread' knob; approx 1.5 inches diameter and which 'does have' the inner silver ring. Someone mentioned KF6AR in 2004 was seeking such a knob? Also mentioned was that it may be possible to get a knob (or set of knobs) 'made', but they will 'look' different? Best regards for the New Year. Terry PS. A few miles from where, in December 1901 Marconi received the first Transatlantic wireless telegraph signal at St. John's, Newfoundland (VO1xx country! Now part of Canada). Article: 328406 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> <11ra9st8ffb5jab@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:31:03 GMT Social engineers? First of all, to answer a former question, it was indeed Ronald Reagan who is responsible for allowing more freedom of the airwaves -- what can be broadcast, and who can own it. So you can't blame that one on Bush. Well, you can anyway . . . if you can believe Bush deliberately blew up the levees in New Orleans and did the other things he's been accused of, but be content that you can at least blame a Republican for this (seething rage with saliva dripping out the of the side of the mouth). With the political garbage (and it IS garbage) out of the way, consider this: before Reagan did this, there were so many strings on broadcast radio that it wasn't funny. It actually kept most talk show hosts off the air, as they were only allowed to say certain things and needed to be countered by someone else on the "other side." I won't get into how liberal or conservative it leaned, or whether it was properly managed, but the fact is we have a Constitution with a Bill of Rights, the first one being that Congress shall make no law restricting freedom of speech. Since that law was passed, we've had talk show hosts galore expressing their liberty. Yes there's Rush Limbaugh. You don't like him? Then there's Jerry Springer. I don't like Jerry, but he has just as much right to be there as Rush. So the truth is, there USED TO BE social engineers running the airwaves, but because this is wrong it has been abolished. As for formats: the CEO of Clearchannel has freely admitted that he hates the formats of most of the stations. If he were to run a station of his own with no strings attached, it would play a variety of "music of your life." But this is not a hobby; it's a business whose purpose is to make money for stockholders and employees. It so happens the vast majority of listeners are motorists taking short trips; as such the biggest moneymaking format is that of playing popular songs, a base of 20-30 songs with a few others thrown in at times, in different formats. Set up one station to play country, another to play top 40, another to play oldies, etc. The second biggest base is offices where workers like to listen as they do their jobs. For that they have stations with softer music, talk shows, etc. Now -- there are still plenty of stations that are not owned by Clearchannel, CBS, or other big companies. These Mom & Pop businesses cater to the special interests. Will all of the smaller stations be bought out by the big ones? I seriously doubt it, as there will always be stations that the big guys will dissolve, and entrepreneurs who always want to start new little ones. Regarding advertisers, this is just as good. Ford and Coca-Cola will continue to advertise on the big stations; however Daisy's 12th Street Diner will be happy to pay the lower price for a spot on a local station, sponsoring a show on fishing. After all, when you didn't catch anything this morning and are hungry, where would you go for lunch? It seems like anything that happens to the airwaves results in future shock. I say relax. There will always be things to listen to. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Smokey" wrote in message news:11ra9st8ffb5jab@corp.supernews.com... > If the "social engineers" at the FCC would quit trying to manipulate the > industry, we'd still have radio in the USA. Radio "clusters" are a joke > and > here in northern Wisconsin you get (yawn) ESPN radio on half the stations > and the same 20 cowboy songs played over and over on the rest. Radio > sucks. > It's the height of stupidity to pay for radio such as satelite radio > services. It's no wonder people are willing to lay down ridiculoius sums > of > money to buy CDs for their cars. > Smokey > > "Ken G." wrote in message > news:29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net... >> I am beginning to worry just a little about AM these days . Around here >> they have stripped 99% of anyting worth istening to . >> I talk to a friend here who owns several christan FM radio stations . He >> claims both AM and FM to some point are struggling to stay alive these >> days . >> Any comments ? >> > > Article: 328407 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) Subject: Re: Is AM stereo dead? Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:03:58 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1135820954.868649.144240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In article , "Brenda Ann" wrote: > AMS had the fidelity. From my experience as a listener, I heard very little > difference in fidelity between AMS on a good tuner/car receiver and FMS. Of > course, much depended on the station transmitting the signal, their antenna > system, etc.. but there was no reason the fidelity couldn't be there. FCC > even authorized the additional bandwidth for it. Hello, and it depends on what audio fidelity you accept. For most pop/rock music an audio bandwidth upper limit of about 10 kHz offered by AM stereo is probably OK. It is inadequate, IMHO, for the dynamic range requirements imposed by orchestral music (primarly classical). For that you need a radio transmission format that can accommodate an upper audio limit of 20-25 kHz. Analog FM stereo (in the US) provides for that range by allowing a carrier deviation of up to +/- 75 kHz. This dynamic range could also be provided by AM but not without a considerable expansion of the AM broadcast band. And you still have the susceptibility of AM to environmental noise. It is interesting to note that when Edwin Armstrong was developing his FM system at RCA his primary goal was to reduce/eliminate the static that invades AM broadcasts. Turns out he also got much higher audio dynamic range (than provided by AM) to boot. Considering the news/sports/talk format of most AM (and increasingly FM) stations these days I certainly don't need to experience ranting pundits in stereo. Massive acceptance of AMS would not have prevented this change in AM station program format IMHO. Sincerely, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 Article: 328408 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <0qqdnQYA2543zyneRVn-iA@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 08:27:45 -0700 Mark - Close your eyes and say the magic words "Hydro Quebec". Quebec has a wonderful and enormous source of hydro power up north - far more than the local area can use. If I am not mistaken - and I may be, someone correct me - it provides power to the eastern provinces as well as Quebec, of course, and Ontario. I believe that we folks in New England, probably down as far as New York, purchase and consume a lot of Hydro Quebec power. There are a lot of tarriffs, of course, and New England still has among the highest electric power rates in the US. But with the demonizing and closure of many of New England's nuke plants, we don't have a lot of choice. Lord help us when Canada needs more of its home-grown power, and less is left over for us. Bill Jeffrey ===================== Mark Oppat wrote: > Its pretty rare in Michigan to see electric heat, what in the world are you > doing with it in Canada??? Was electricity cheap there? > Article: 328409 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Re: Need help/advice Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:09:55 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1135949870.224181.156840@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 30 Dec 2005 05:37:50 -0800, "me,inc" wrote: >Hi! > >I am new to this group - I just subscribed because I need to find out >about some stuff that I have. My step-mom's dad owned and operated a >store called "City Radio" in a small city in New England from the 40's >through the 90's. He recently moved into a nursing home and I ended up >bringing home a lot of his radio and phono stuff - anything that was >still in its original packaging. No actual radios or phonographs or >TV's - just parts. I play guitar and know that tubes for amps are >valuable, so that is why I decided to take this stuff - noone else >wanted to bother with it. There is a lot of stuff, and a lot I left >behind - I hope as I learn more about this that I don't have too many >regrets! > >Anyway, I am trying to find out what this is worth and then decide what >to do with it. I just read some threads on old tubes and I am >wondering - what should I be looking for? What are the good tubes - >the valuable tubes? I see that TV tubes are not really worth anything >- how do I tell them apart form radio tubes? Any suggestions on where >to begin as far as learning more about this? How do I fiugre out the >"numbering" system? > >I also picked up a bunch of styli, so I am also interested in finding >out about these. Mostly Astatic with lower numbers than what I am >seeing on ebay - yes, I went looking on ebay last night! > >Also - lots of parts - resistors, capacitors, etc. > >Any suggestions as to how to find out what I have here? > Hi, I am also in New England, Southern New Hampshire and might be interested in seeing what you have there. You can email me at john at anatek dot mv dot com John Article: 328410 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 09:08:03 -0700 Message-ID: <27216-43B55B63-287@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: Thanks guys . All very good points accept the one about ``hight of stupidity to use satelite radio service `` 6 or 7 million people do , one being me ( xm ) . Now if the regular radio had decent veriety i would not be interested in s.r. at all . I dont need a radio going 24 hours a day . My interest in decent radio content is magnified though simply because i service and collect so many pieces of radio equipment . A nice veriety of ``good`` music always is of great interest to almost everyone i`m around at work . One thing i find interesting is one of our classical stations that was classical for the 12 years i been here and probably years before that threw the switch to mid 70`s hart rock music such as Van Halen , Ozzy Ozborne , White Snake , Alice Cooper , Bon Jovi ... etc. you get the idea :-) And what gets half the interest here is this station has 2 idiots doing nothing but talking , cracking jokes and acting crazy for 3 hours each morning .. young people love this . I`ll bet alot of radios got thrown through windows that morning :-) !!!!! LOL Anyway I hear that station on all over the place . All of the employees around age 18 to 25 all live for this station now . Whats my point ? Its OLDER music . Do they have the radio on country .. nope I dont know what more to say . There are still a few things on the radio that are ok but cant keep one on for more than a half hour anymore . I just ran the dial of a good AM portable radio one end to the other and could hear 29 AM stations at 9:00 am here 4 local rest distant . Article: 328411 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? From: Ron Ramirez References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:33:36 GMT So what is on AM these days? Around here, besides Hush Bimbo and Pawn Vanity...not much. Oh, there's what passes for a "nostalgia" station across the river in Henderson, KY, but they interrupt the decent music every chance they get with any and all variety of sports programming. And there's the local station that, well...imagine firing up your vintage Philco and putting your freshly reconed speaker to the test with some urban rap! Ugh. Article: 328412 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:38:08 -0600 Message-ID: <26049-43B57080-124@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: You sure got that right,Ron Ramirez.Sometimes I will be listening to something on a news talk radio show on my radio I want to hear and suddenly,without warning,a sports radio program will break in. cuhulin Article: 328413 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Lifting Veneer and Super-Glue References: <_f-dnZi0QckyGCjeRVn-vA@sigecom.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:39:30 -0500 Best to use any of the white or yellow glues, such as Titebond II. Cut some thin strips of alm. flashing and use these to shove glue as far back under the veneer as possible. Be sure to clamp it using a layer of waxed paper between the veneer and pressure board so nothing gets glued together. Ken Bruce Mercer wrote: > I've got a set with a few very small spots of veneer lifting at the edge, > detectable with a finger nail tap. Has anyone had success with CA glue for > this purpose? It's thin enough to wick into the lifted area without having > to open the area wider. Is there a special CA glue for wood or veneer? I'm > afraid if I don't fix it somewhere down the road it will get snagged and > then I'll really have a problem. I've used thinned hot hide glue for this > before but the areas are too small and tight for that. > > Bruce > > Article: 328414 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Schematic for GE H-31 needed References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 19:42:15 GMT I have a nice high quality copy of the 32 page factory manual for this radio. Let me know if you want it, $6 + shipping. Joe Farkas wrote: > I have a GE H-31, superhet manufactured by RCA, that I need a > schematic for. > This is a large console from 1929-1930. Looks similar to Victor R-39 > that I bought at the same time, similar power supply / amp chassis, > down to the paint color (brown) > Thanks in advance. > Article: 328415 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Need help/advice References: <1135949870.224181.156840@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 14:43:09 -0500 DON'T THROW ANYTHING AWAY! Ken me,inc wrote: > Hi! > > I am new to this group - I just subscribed because I need to find out > about some stuff that I have. My step-mom's dad owned and operated a > store called "City Radio" in a small city in New England from the 40's > through the 90's. He recently moved into a nursing home and I ended up > bringing home a lot of his radio and phono stuff - anything that was > still in its original packaging. No actual radios or phonographs or > TV's - just parts. I play guitar and know that tubes for amps are > valuable, so that is why I decided to take this stuff - noone else > wanted to bother with it. There is a lot of stuff, and a lot I left > behind - I hope as I learn more about this that I don't have too many > regrets! > > Anyway, I am trying to find out what this is worth and then decide what > to do with it. I just read some threads on old tubes and I am > wondering - what should I be looking for? What are the good tubes - > the valuable tubes? I see that TV tubes are not really worth anything > - how do I tell them apart form radio tubes? Any suggestions on where > to begin as far as learning more about this? How do I fiugre out the > "numbering" system? > > I also picked up a bunch of styli, so I am also interested in finding > out about these. Mostly Astatic with lower numbers than what I am > seeing on ebay - yes, I went looking on ebay last night! > > Also - lots of parts - resistors, capacitors, etc. > > Any suggestions as to how to find out what I have here? > > Thank you! > > Dawn > Article: 328416 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Lifting Veneer and Super-Glue Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 13:52:33 -0600 Message-ID: <26048-43B59001-475@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <_f-dnZi0QckyGCjeRVn-vA@sigecom.net> Check some woodworking books/catalogs.There might be a special glue for that purpose.I believe epoxy marine grade fiberglass two part resin (resin and hardner) available at marine/boat supply stores and Home Depot stores will work ok.I once used some epoxy fiberglass resin with some fiberglass cloth about twelve years ago to repair some pinhole leaks on the bottom of my old van's gas tank,no leaks yet. cuhulin Article: 328417 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) Subject: Re: Is AM stereo dead? Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 15:10:43 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1135820954.868649.144240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In article , jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) wrote: > That is not correct, at least in the case of FM stereo where the absolute > top audio frequency that can theoretically be transmitted is 19 kHz, and > where typical transmission equipment has a upper audio cutoff frequency > somewhere in the region between 15 kHz and 19 kHz, typically closer to 15 > kHz. You are indeed correct, John. I failed to account for that restriction in order that the L+R main channel and L-R sidebands don't spill over into other areas needed in the FM channel allocation for stereo and SCA program transmission. Still, 15 kHz is better than 10 kHz if audio dynamic range is important. And a lot of us can't discern audio frequencies much past 15 kHz anyway. Sincerely, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 Article: 328418 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Is AM stereo dead? Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 15:27:49 -0600 Message-ID: <19245-43B5A655-222@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: www.krud.com cuhulin Article: 328419 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Lifting Veneer and Super-Glue Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 15:22:30 -0700 Message-ID: References: <_f-dnZi0QckyGCjeRVn-vA@sigecom.net> thin down some yellow glue with water. randy "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:_f-dnZi0QckyGCjeRVn-vA@sigecom.net... > I've got a set with a few very small spots of veneer lifting at the edge, > detectable with a finger nail tap. Has anyone had success with CA glue for > this purpose? It's thin enough to wick into the lifted area without having > to open the area wider. Is there a special CA glue for wood or veneer? I'm > afraid if I don't fix it somewhere down the road it will get snagged and > then I'll really have a problem. I've used thinned hot hide glue for this > before but the areas are too small and tight for that. > > Bruce > Article: 328420 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Frank K." Subject: WANTED: German & Telefunken parts Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:37:31 -0600 Does any one have a parts chassis from a TELEFUNKEN OPUS 7, or a GRUNDIG 5077? I need both volume controls and would consider buying the entire chassis ... or entire radios in any condition for that matter.... thanks Frank in Okla City Article: 328421 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Frank K." Subject: GE G-106 CONSOLE.. Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:45:00 -0600 HI FOLKS: I recently bought the GE G-106 console on EBAY that Mark O. posted a note about. ( Thanks Mark). I had posted a note here earlier looking for one, I fell in love with these when I restored one for a lady several months ago. BUT, I would love to find a GE service manual ( or a copy) for this radio, also push-button tabs and an owner's manual. Long shot, but someone would have by undying gratitude if they had one they would sell! :-) Happy New Year!! frank in Okla City Article: 328422 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Lyndell Scott" References: <_f-dnZi0QckyGCjeRVn-vA@sigecom.net> Subject: Re: Lifting Veneer and Super-Glue Message-ID: <6Hjtf.727$N33.522@newssvr31.news.prodigy.com> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:48:18 GMT I use the ZAP brand of CA glue for that purpose on almost every cabinet I work on and have never had a problem. Certainly easier than any other method I've tried. I use the thinnest type in the pink bottle that wicks into the crack, press down and spray accelerator into the area. Sometimes super glue is called instant glue, but it is not instant but using the accelerator makes it instant. Article: 328423 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1135986644.618047.206030@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Can't find the binaries anymore! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 00:54:05 GMT "Engineer" wrote in message news:1135986644.618047.206030@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hi, Vacuumlanders, > My ISP (Rogers-Yahoo in Canada) seems to have cut me off from the > Newsgroup server (it was: nntp.broadband.rogers.com). They said that > they had replaced it with a "more valuable service, many gigabytes of > personal photo storage". Well, whoopee... I don't think! BTW, I was > using Outlook Express. > > Anyway, I've switched to Google Groups with IE version 6.0 (after a > search around for options) but now I can't access the binaries (for > schematics & pics.) Is this my finger trouble or must I use another > service? If so, what? > > Many thanks for all useful information. > Cheers, > Roger > Google doesn't carry binaries. jim menning Article: 328424 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Bad News for PayPal Haters: BidPay Goes ByeBye Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:04:18 -0500 "David Stinson" wrote in message news:yaitf.1591$Hl6.713@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > http://www.bidpay.com/ I'm not surprised at all. They charged me 9.50$ to send a money order of 125$ ! Syl Article: 328425 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Bad News for PayPal Haters: BidPay Goes ByeBye Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:04:23 -0500 "David Stinson" wrote in message news:yaitf.1591$Hl6.713@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > http://www.bidpay.com/ I'm not surprised at all. They charged me 9.50$ to send a money order of 125$ ! Syl Article: 328426 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <_f-dnZi0QckyGCjeRVn-vA@sigecom.net> Subject: Re: Lifting Veneer and Super-Glue Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:05:58 -0500 "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:_f-dnZi0QckyGCjeRVn-vA@sigecom.net... > I've got a set with a few very small spots of veneer lifting at the edge, > detectable with a finger nail tap. Has anyone had success with CA glue for > this purpose? It's thin enough to wick into the lifted area without having > to open the area wider. Is there a special CA glue for wood or veneer? I'm > afraid if I don't fix it somewhere down the road it will get snagged and > then I'll really have a problem. I've used thinned hot hide glue for this > before but the areas are too small and tight for that. > > Bruce Super glue for wood worked just fine for me for tiny repairs (1/4-1/2" chips). I wouldn't use it for larger repair though. Syl From adouglasatgis.net Fri Dec 30 23:25:57 EST 2005 Article: 328427 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Can't find the binaries anymore! Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 19:59:53 -0500 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 5 Message-ID: References: <1135986644.618047.206030@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-430.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news2 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:328427 Hi, There may be free newsfeeds; I don't know. I'm very happy with the $39.95/year service from newsguy.com, and Free Agent as a newsreader. Alan Article: 328428 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ron H" Subject: Electrolytic WVDC Message-ID: <3jltf.35543$q45.28986@fe17.lga> Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 19:38:55 -0600 What's the down side of running well below the WVDC listed on an electrolytic? As I understand it, the Working Voltage DC is 70% to 85% of the maximum breakdown voltage and generally, the higher the voltage the shorter the useful life...but what if I put say a 10uf @ 100 WVDC in place of a 10uf @ 25 WVDC.... Nothing I can find would indicate that there would be any down side to that replacement except perhaps the physical size of the higher voltage unit... K3PID Ron H. From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Fri Dec 30 23:25:58 EST 2005 Article: 328429 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 19 Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 02:02:51 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com 1135994571 66.65.49.10 (Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:02:51 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:02:51 EST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!news-feed-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:328429 In article <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net>, Ken G. wrote: > I talk to a friend here who owns several christan FM radio stations . He > claims both AM and FM to some point are struggling to stay alive these > days . > Any comments ? Yes. Nothing against your friend, but maybe he'd be doing a better job if he was running someting original instead of the same James Dobson and Jay Sekulow tapes that the other 1,000 stations cross-country are running. And that goes for all religious radio stations. You could have three or four of these things in one city and they're all running basically the same preacher-talk shows at different times. What if one of them plays....say....Christian Contemp. music? Oh shocker! -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 328430 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin" References: <1135949870.224181.156840@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135991829.024118.186530@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135994729.540343.134360@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Need help/advice Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 02:19:56 -0000 Message-ID: <43b5ead1$0$27192$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> "me,inc" wrote in message news:1135994729.540343.134360@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > One of the things I read in another thread is that a lot of these old > guys put the old used parts back in the boxes - that seems to be the > case here as well. Bummer! > > Dawn :-) > Well, sometimes old used tubes/valves will still work in some applications, and are worth keeping if rare types, some old capacitors are in demand to "re-stuff" to replace missing parts and even the boxes of some makes are collectable! Martin. Article: 328431 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1135949870.224181.156840@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135991829.024118.186530@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Need help/advice Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 02:51:06 GMT "me,inc" wrote in message news:1135991829.024118.186530@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > As far as the radio parts go, I have a lot to sort through. Again - > can anyone tell me the difference between TV and radio tubes? And what > are the "good" tubes? And how can I find out what the numbers mean? > > Actually, that would be a difficult task to teach anyone in a short time. Perhaps the best way to get an idea of value would be to compare your stock with prices online from some tube sellers. For example, if you look at the site below, you can see that some tubes are cheap, some expensive. None should be thrown out. You may just want to come up with a list of what you have and offer them here, or on eBay as a bulk lot. Trying to sell them individually can be a real time consuming task. http://www.vacuumtubes.net/prices.htm And of course there is no way we can really help you out a lot through emails or newsgroup postings. It is nearly impossible to evaluate an estate or collection sight unseen. I suggest you take the advice others have given you and have John or someone else come down and give you an idea of what you've got. Many of the estates I have looked over have been for the most part worthless, but you never know when you may stumble upon some long sought after treasure. Good luck! jim menning Article: 328432 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:52:54 -0500 Message-ID: <11rbsk8edba3u3c@corp.supernews.com> References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> <11ra9st8ffb5jab@corp.supernews.com> Smokey wrote: > If the "social engineers" at the FCC would quit trying to manipulate the > industry Yeah, those Republicans are such radical left wing America-haters, they LOVE regulation, no wonder the FCC is SO heavy handed, yeah, radio would be SO much better if we could get Big Guvmint off the little guys back. Do you guys EVER stop ? Are you f**king KIDDING me ? Perhaps you have forgotten Bill Clinton left, and there IS NO ONE PURSUING ANYTHING THAT LOOKS EVEN VAGUELY LIKE "SOCIAL ENGINEERING" AT THE FCC !!!!!!!!!!! If radio sucks its the goddamn Free Market that made it that way! John H. Article: 328433 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Lifting Veneer and Super-Glue Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:56:49 -0500 Message-ID: <11rbsrjpfq9du8e@corp.supernews.com> References: <_f-dnZi0QckyGCjeRVn-vA@sigecom.net> Bruce Mercer wrote: > I've got a set with a few very small spots of veneer lifting at the edge > I've had amazing success with applying yellow glue with a butter knife and simply hitting it with the heat gun for a sec and smooshing it down with my fingers. John H. Article: 328434 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Lifting Veneer and Super-Glue Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 21:58:44 -0500 Message-ID: <11rbsv6ph7plqb7@corp.supernews.com> References: <_f-dnZi0QckyGCjeRVn-vA@sigecom.net> <26048-43B59001-475@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > I believe epoxy marine grade fiberglass two part resin > (resin and hardner) available at marine/boat supply stores and Home > Depot stores will work ok. But add a dozen or so sheetrock screws JUST to be sure. With all due respect, epoxy is TOTAL overkill here. John H. Article: 328435 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:49:45 -0500 From: Tom Sullivan Subject: Re: Juke Boxes , any pointer to technical overview ? References: Message-ID: <43b60014$0$76006$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com> How about the inventor of the flush toilet, a chap by the name of John Crapper. Tom Ron(UK) wrote: > Larry wrote: > >> "Arfa Daily" wrote in >> news:DQtgf.3079$n4.1034@newsfe5-win.ntli.net: >> >>> I went to school with a lad called Richard ( Dick ) Head .... and he >>> really was. I wonder where he is now ? >>> >>> Arfa >>> >>> >> >> >> We had a whole family of Fuchs in our town. >> >> There was Amy Fuchs.....and she did. >> >> There was also Emily Fuchs, but I never heard whether she did or not. >> >> What a terrible name to give innocent, or even not-so-innocent kids...(c; >> >> Oh, it's pronounced Foosh. Now aren't you ashamed? >> > It`s Foooks over here. I remember some German sportswoman on tv being > continually called the wrong name by an interviewer. Eventually she > snapped at him "It`s fucks ..My name is FUCKS!" > > Appols for anglo saxon verbage. > > Ron > > Article: 328436 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Juke Boxes , any pointer to technical overview ? Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:00:47 -0500 Message-ID: <11rc0jkf0vohtad@corp.supernews.com> References: <43b60014$0$76006$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com> Tom Sullivan wrote: > How about the inventor of the flush toilet, a chap by the name of John > Crapper. > It's Thomas, and while he was a sanitary engineer he did NOT invent the WC- http://www.snopes.com/business/names/crapper.asp John H. Article: 328437 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:08:12 -0500 From: Tom Sullivan Subject: Re: Emerson 858 Series B Radio/Phono References: <3hfgf.16753$tT1.7342@trnddc01> Message-ID: <43b60467$0$76018$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com> Almost surely a bad cartridge. After 30 years, most crystal cartridges will have to be replaced or rebuilt. Tom robert casey wrote: > >> >> Do you think there might be a short somewhere? A tube may be out? I >> would assume it's probably grounded ok. >> >> Any suggestions on what might be wrong or where I could find more info >> on this model? >> > > I'd check to see if the ground return from the pickup is broken. Article: 328438 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: What Do You Want on Your Tumb Stone ? Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:18:52 -0500 Message-ID: <11rc1letkj508b9@corp.supernews.com> http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-Victor-Tumb-Stone-Tube-type-radio-Vintage-Antique_W0QQitemZ6591585914 John H. Article: 328439 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <11rc1letkj508b9@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: What Do You Want on Your Tumb Stone ? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 04:27:23 GMT "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11rc1letkj508b9@corp.supernews.com... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/RCA-Victor-Tumb-Stone-Tube-type-radio-Vintage-Antique_W0QQitemZ6591585914 > > John H. > But who is the legendary repairman mentioned? jim menning Article: 328440 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: What Do You Want on Your Tumb Stone ? Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:41:45 -0500 Message-ID: <11rc30b22bedg6d@corp.supernews.com> References: <11rc1letkj508b9@corp.supernews.com> jim menning wrote: > > > But who is the legendary repairman mentioned? > > jim menning > > The guy sought after in "different't state" ? Altered perhaps :) ? Differentiated ? John H. Article: 328441 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Crazy George" References: <3jltf.35543$q45.28986@fe17.lga> Subject: Re: Electrolytic WVDC Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 22:51:28 -0600 Message-ID: <43b60eab@kcnews01> In the old days, it was necessary to run near the working voltage on electrolytics to properly form up the insulating layer which produces the capacitance. One reason why the tolerance is given as +80, -20 %. This effect is not as pronounced in present designs, but the usual rule of thumb is to double the voltage for longer life, in your case use a 50 volt capacitor. Also, temperature enters in here in a non-linear way, deserving of a more accurate treatment than I can give here. Bottom line is that electrolytics have a finite shelf life with no voltage applied, so they are not going to last forever, no matter how high voltage a unit you use. -- Crazy George W5VPQ My real address is my ham call ARRL.NET The ATTGlobal is a SPAM trap. "Ron H" wrote in message news:3jltf.35543$q45.28986@fe17.lga... > What's the down side of running well below the WVDC listed on an > electrolytic? As I understand it, the Working Voltage DC is 70% to 85% of > the maximum breakdown voltage and generally, the higher the voltage the > shorter the useful life...but what if I put say a 10uf @ 100 WVDC in place > of a 10uf @ 25 WVDC.... > > Nothing I can find would indicate that there would be any down side to > that > replacement except perhaps the physical size of the higher voltage unit... > > > K3PID > Ron H. > > Article: 328442 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 06:16:18 GMT Hi! > Any comments ? In my location (eastern central Illinois) there are lots of AM stations on the air. However, most of them don't carry anything that's really worth listening to. (I'm not an overly big fan of talk radio.) The two AM stations I listen to around here are WIRL 1290 AM (classic country music, great to listen to on old radios) and WILL AM 580 (public radio). WIRL recently changed format from FOX sports radio to classic country music and I'd have to say that I like the change. The last little station (FM, about 3,000 watts output power) that carried all the country music classics packed it in a few years ago and their corporate owners changed everything to rap and hip-hop. It's kind of funny to see the folks at 1290 AM taking up the torch, especially since the letter I got back from the former FM station said that they couldn't make the format work--not enough listenership or sales. So I wish the folks at 1290 AM the best and I hope they do make it work...it's the best of both worlds...great music on great old radios. As for the public radio, I do enjoy the odd show they air. Sometimes I even remember to listen to A Prairie Home Companion. William Article: 328443 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <11r92r218ci4f3d@corp.supernews.com> <28478-43B49D7C-50@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 06:24:36 GMT Hi! > Ever know anyone with a Neilsen box glomped onto their teevee? > (Do they even still use them?) I haven't. But there must've been > a metric buttload of them out there. Yes, sort of. They didn't get any kind of a box on their TV, but my grandparents were asked to write down everything they watched, how much of it they watched and on what channels they watched it. There may have been other data collection points as well. I don't remember. I don't know if they participated or not. And besides that, I've never heard of anyone else I know having been involved in such a thing. William Article: 328444 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> <43b43b02$0$3128$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com> Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 06:27:46 GMT Hi! > If I want to > produce a show about collecting old radios for example, I know for a fact I > can go downtown and get a full hour for $150, and this includes promos to > advertise the show. I can go out myself and get sponsors, or I can simply > buy it if I'm rich and like to yik-yak, but for that price I can be on the > air tomorrow. I've even thought about doing this -- I'd love to do some > call-in chat with collectors and people who "just inherited" a family radio, > and including an assortment of old time radio, but I'm way too busy to do > the show, let alone beat the streets for sponsors. Hmmm...you know, that's a good idea! I'm not sure if it would sell, but I *know* that I'd listen to such a show if it were on the radio and I could receive it. What I need to do when I can't hear my favorite AM stations (see previous reply in this thread, both stations drop power at night and get very hard to hear most of the time) is to find a small AM transmitter and plug it into one of my computers or the iPod. William Article: 328445 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: What Do You Want on Your Tumb Stone ? Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:27:48 -0700 Message-ID: References: <11rc1letkj508b9@corp.supernews.com> <11rc30b22bedg6d@corp.supernews.com> <1136009913.612262.169680@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> lets see... maybe it has something to do with the fact that we dont fund schools any more? randy >I think this seller needs a legendary repairman to "fix" his/her > spelling, grammar and punctuation. What is happening to the English > language? > Article: 328446 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: Re: OT...phase converters Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 23:24:12 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1135726594.843230.22440@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> eddie - there's been plenty of discussion - for a single motor bridgeport type machine, use a VFD - I can get refurbished 2 HP VFDs for about $150, that's the best way to go, then you can have any spindle speed you want. I just installed an Abene mill in my garage - it has 3 motors, a 6 hp spindle motor, a 2 hp motor to move the talble in 3 axis, and a .06 hp coolant pump motor - I'm using a static converter that consists of just a capacitor and two relays (and two resistors, and a pilot light), and it runs that mill just fine, but I don't need vairable speed = it has a multispeed gearbox for that purpose. And, I suspect I can stand to loose a little HP on the spindle - the 6 hp spindle acts as an idler motor for the traverse motor so I get full HP there, and I just won't use the coolant pump for now. In my case (not yours), a VFD won't work because I have two main motors, and because the 2 hp motor must reverse to engage the rapid movement on the ways. but enough of this here - contact me off the list (email address is on my web page, www.wbnoble.com if you need it) bill n On 27 Dec 2005 15:36:34 -0800, "Eddie Brimer" wrote: >what do you know about phase converters? i am looking at a bridgeport >mill that has a 3 phase motor on it. of course i don't have 3 phase. i >have read a little on the net about building my own phase converter. i >appears that using the capacitor method, the motor only generates about >2/3 of it's rated HP. which would be fine for what i will be using it >for. anybody have any experience with this. do it harm the 3 phase >motor? will it last? Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com Article: 328447 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Roger Smith Subject: Re: Can't find the binaries anymore! Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:28:14 +0000 Message-ID: References: <1135986644.618047.206030@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Hi Guys, Am I right in thinking that all news servers don't access all groups or have I got finger trouble? Since I changed my ISP to Tiscali (news.tiscali.co.uk) I have been unable to access alt.binaries.pictures.radio anything. Obviously this group still works fine but updating the list of newsgroups does not show the required binaries. Thanks Roger (UK) Article: 328448 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:34:05 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Can't find the binaries anymore! References: <1135986644.618047.206030@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Roger Smith wrote: > Hi Guys, > Am I right in thinking that all news servers don't access all groups Yep. Try teranews.com I think its free and has binary access...or so I've heard. -Bill Article: 328449 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Crazy George" References: <3jltf.35543$q45.28986@fe17.lga> Subject: Re: Electrolytic WVDC Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:06:10 -0600 Message-ID: <43b6908c@kcnews01> William: The one problem I have encountered which is not properly documented is pulse current levels in digital circuitry. The digital and switching power supply portions of Bearcat scanners are notorious for this. Even though the capacitors are run with normal voltage margins, using higher voltage capacitors is necessary to get any reasonable life time out of them. Looking at the current waveforms through the capacitors shows that there are large spikes, which is what I believe is what causes the problem. Using 50 volt capacitors is easier than finding low ESR miniature electrolytics. Using Tantalums helps also, if you can find affordable ones. -- Crazy George W5VPQ My real address is my ham call ARRL.NET The ATTGlobal is a SPAM trap. "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:AoqdnbOeSbNfxivenZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com... > There's no point to running "well below" the rated voltage. The cap won't > last any longer -- in fact, it might deform. > > I have equipment over 40 years old that gets only rare use, and have never > seen anything I'd interpret as a deformed cap, though. The only device > I've > owned that suffered from deformed caps is a JVC ambience synthesizer. JVC > told me they'd had problems with this particular unit. > > Article: 328450 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Forward Look Frank" Subject: free '64 Magnavox TV/Hi-Fi Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 09:35:03 -0500 Hello Everyone, I have a '64 Magnavox 21" color TV with the 4 speed record changer and AM/FM stereo radio. The Radio and Phonograph work well, the TV does not work. It has a beautiful maple wood cabinet in very good to excellent shape. I need space and would like to see someone take it for free rather than see it go to a junk yard. I live in Cockeysville, MD. The taker will pick it up, I will not ship/deliver. If interested, email me at fwdlkfjw@bcpl.net . Thanks for your time. -Frank Article: 328451 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert McLean" References: <1135986644.618047.206030@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Can't find the binaries anymore! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 09:52:54 -0500 "Engineer" wrote in message news:1135986644.618047.206030@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hi, Vacuumlanders, > My ISP (Rogers-Yahoo in Canada) seems to have cut me off from the > Newsgroup server (it was: nntp.broadband.rogers.com). They said that > they had replaced it with a "more valuable service, many gigabytes of > personal photo storage". Well, whoopee... I don't think! BTW, I was > using Outlook Express. > > Anyway, I've switched to Google Groups with IE version 6.0 (after a > search around for options) but now I can't access the binaries (for > schematics & pics.) Is this my finger trouble or must I use another > service? If so, what? > > Many thanks for all useful information. > Cheers, > Roger > Sympatico carries the binaries. Article: 328452 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: So that's where they went... References: Message-ID: <8vxtf.24335$Ou3.20665@dukeread09> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:31:14 -0500 What a shame. A man without any vision at all. Ken Bob Hundemer wrote: > Oh, the humanity... > > Or in this sellers case: Oh, the stupidity... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6592901911&fromMakeTrack=true > > Bob Article: 328453 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43B6AC1E.5090900@worldnet.att.net> From: Al Schapira Subject: Re: Its ALIVE! Re: Any Freed-Eisemann aficionados out there? References: <43B3F35F.5040609@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:03:22 GMT Thank you all for your compliments. -Al Al Schapira wrote: > With thanks to all who helped and provided information and > encouragement, I am happy to say that I have gotten my > Freed-Eisemann FE-15 restored and working. For those interested, > I have put together a web page with photos and text detailing > the restoration. See http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/FE15/index.html > > Any recommendations for an appropriate speaker/horn > that might have been used with an FE-15? > > Anyone have two Freed-Eisemann small rheostat knobs, type 385? > They are engraved 100 - 0 over 270 degrees, about 2 1/2 " in dia. > > Thanks again for your help, advice, opinions, comments. > > -Al From adouglasatgis.net Sat Dec 31 15:01:55 EST 2005 Article: 328454 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Need help/advice Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 10:55:52 -0500 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <1135949870.224181.156840@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135991829.024118.186530@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1135994729.540343.134360@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43b5ead1$0$27192$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader02.plus.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-684.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:328454 Hi, > Is there any value in old >oscilliscopes for testing TV's? Other stuff for testing? Scopes aren't worth much. Tube testers are. Other equipment may be: specific TV gear like color-bar generators won't be valuable, but general-purpose things like meters and signal generators are worth saving. Depends on brands and quality too. >How about >old TV antennas? Old car speakers? Antennas, no. Speakers of any kind, yes. Forget the radio-phono but you might want to post the brand and description, just in case. Advertising and paper items are well worth saving. Servicing books (Rider manuals, factory service data) are always in demand. Sams folders are too but take a lot of space and effort. Alan Article: 328455 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bartley Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 11:05:55 -0500 Ken G. wrote: > I am beginning to worry just a little about AM these days . Around here > they have stripped 99% of anyting worth istening to . > I talk to a friend here who owns several christan FM radio stations . He > claims both AM and FM to some point are struggling to stay alive these > days . > Any comments ? > During the day (when at work), I listen to "Oldies 1310". I think the call sign is CIWW. It's a steady mix of 50's, 60's, 70's music, but no heavy metal stuff. It's ok as a background for work. In the evening, I listen to a couple of U.S. stations. One is WGN and the show I sometimes get is "Extension 720" ( http://wgnradio.com/shows/ex720/index.html ) It's a non-violent talk show. I also listen to WTAM at 1100 if I happen to wake up after midnight. "Coast to Coast" may be a bit far out, but at least the caller get their chance to speak and no-one yells or throws verbal abuse at anyone. I do miss the CBC on AM. It vanished a few years back and went to FM On SW, I listen to BBC, RCI, DW, and VOR (when they come in). A couple of years ago, VOR aired an old interview done with the Russian sniper who was portrayed in "Enemy at the gates". It was (obviously) a translation, but it was very interesting to hear the differences that existed between his real life story and the movie version cheers -- regards from :: John Bartley 43 Norway Spruce Street Stittsville, Ontario Canada, K2S1P5 ( If you slow down it takes longer - does that apply to life also?) Article: 328456 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:22:41 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Is AM stereo dead? References: <1135820954.868649.144240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <55WdneWtk7KsCivenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1136045231.797471.68240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <48785$43b6b054$4232bd18$22429@COQUI.NET> AuroraOldRadios wrote: > I was reading some info about 1970's FM stereo receivers and their > specs (actually for my Pioneer SX-5590 aka SX-1250). The thought came > to me- what was the main source of music content for stations? Probably > vinyl with all its limitations. Maybe a few stations used reel to reel > for long classical passages, One example - A fellow I knew had the first 'alternative' program on FM in Charlotte in the late 60s. (WRNA, ex WIST-FM) He got shuffled off to the Midnite-6AM slot. He did his entire program at home using his records and equipment onto reel-to-reel tapes which he delivered to the station. -Bill Article: 328457 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 17:29:08 GMT http://www.ktnnonline.com/ Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328458 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Is AM stereo dead? Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 03:41:53 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1135820954.868649.144240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <55WdneWtk7KsCivenZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1136045231.797471.68240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1136045231.797471.68240@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Another annoying issue, I've noticed some AM music stations somehow > miss one of the stereo channels so instead of getting an L+R mono, > there's either L or R. > Ah... my pet peeve... (which I would gladly take to be euthanized). AFN Korea (and most likely the rest of AFRTS AM stations) does this. And there is NO EXCUSE for it, other than the 'engineers' being morons, since their satellite feeds are in stereo, and programs are shifted back and forth between the AM and FM affiliates semi-regularly. I've tried to explain to the local morons that they can indeed sum the L and R signals to make monaural, but they say "this is AM, you can't do stereo in AM". Same cast of idiots, when informed that our local FM affiliate was a technical disaster (modulation running about 30%, stereo image 180 degrees out of phase (makes for great sounding vocals when heard on a monoaural radio)) informed me "it sounds fine on my Subaru car radio." Now how can you possibly argue with such high tech test equipment as that? *pulls hair out of head in clumps* Article: 328459 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: How to wire variac with voltmeter and ammeter? References: <43B43E45.4B0C1927@earthlink.net> <1135901447.979258.38720@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <0Z-dnUmH_pKHUCveRVn-hw@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 18:55:43 GMT Tom Adkins wrote: > To be honest, if I saw a radio rated at 60 Watts drawing, say, .75 amp > at 95 volts I would have no idea if that was good or bad. I've never > learned the correlation(sp) between Watts and Amps at varying voltages. > Laziness on my part as it's something I should probably know. Volts X Amps = Watts. From you're above example 67.5 watts. I'm lazy... I put a chart next to the amp meter for when the Variac is set to 125 VAC. 0.1 Amp = 12.5 watts 0.2 Amp = 25 watts And so forth. And easier (also lazy) method is to look at the tag on the back of the radio. If it reads 60 Watts at 110 Volts, then that means it shouldn't draw more than 0.545 amps. So, as you crank up the Variac if it goes up over 0.6 amps, you know you have a problem. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328460 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sofa Slug Subject: Re: Can't find the binaries anymore! References: <1135986644.618047.206030@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1136055053.747279.284150@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 19:17:59 GMT Engineer wrote: > Damn, that's the phone company! My com package is the cable company > (Rogers-Yahoo - now no newsgroups as of recently.) > They do offer some kind of free webhosting (not explored yet) so I > could put my schematics and pics up there and send the URL to the NG > but that still leaves me not seeing other people's stuff. Bad > business! > Ah, well... still looking for free access to the binaries... > Cheers, > Roger (Canada) > Xusenet has free thumbnail views of the binaries (register for free to see full size pics): http://snipurl.com/l6rt Happy News Year (sorry ;) - S Article: 328461 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Philco tube lettering question Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 14:20:12 -0500 Looking through my Mallory Radio Service Encyclopedia I noticed Philco put out some sets in '41 '42 with the letter 'E' after the tube type, such as 7A8E, 7B7E, 35A5E. Sylvania used the letter E as a date code for May up until 1938. Since Sylvania made many tubes for Philco, could this be a Sylvania date code? Any other reason for the E? Ken Article: 328462 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Stone" References: <22v0r15437o03d9jblbeqjg21s1q3238d5@4ax.com> <0qqdnQYA2543zyneRVn-iA@comcast.com> Subject: Re: using the waterpipe as ground Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 19:47:25 GMT "Bill Jeffrey" wrote in message news:Ekctf.2558$V.1830@fed1read04... > Mark - > > Close your eyes and say the magic words "Hydro Quebec". > > Quebec has a wonderful and enormous source of hydro power up north - far > more than the local area can use. If I am not mistaken - and I may be, > someone correct me - it provides power to the eastern provinces as well as > Quebec, of course, and Ontario. My understanding is that electric flows both ways thru those distribution systems. When the water is available then Hydro Quebec sells power to the USA and others. When the water is low then USA generators send power for sale the other direction to Canada. Article: 328463 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: So that's where they went... References: <1136050913.839825.31730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 14:10:23 -0600 shoppa@trailing-edge.com wrote: > Bob Hundemer wrote: > >>Oh, the humanity... >> >>Or in this sellers case: Oh, the stupidity... >> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6592901911&fromMakeTrack=true > > > There are guys on E-bay who buy complete working ham rigs, strip them > down to parts/assemblies, and sell them in 20 different auctions. One > is for the front panel, the second for the knobs, the third for a bunch > of controls, the fourth for the VFO, the fifth for the transformer, the > sixth for the chassis... all the way through the final > compartment and tubes. And all advertised as "removed from a working > radio". > > What really hurts is that they probably do make more money that way > than > selling the thing as a whole. Of course the thing as a whole is often > right around the $100 range (I'm thinking of 60's/70's era Heath > HW-101's, > Swans, etc.) and shipping and proper packing would probably > be half the cost. > But they likely never sell 'all' of it. I bought new side panels on ebay for my RCA 3BX TO knockoff, because the antenna--which I needed--was included. The guy had several other pieces which never sold (at least on ebay) and I was the only bidder. Had I bid on each piece separately, I'd have paid well over--at the minimum bid--the cost of a complete receiver. I've emailed him, but no answer as to the ultimate disposition of the remaining parts...which I 'could' use, but don't really need. I'll bet they're in a landfill.... jak ...which reminds me: I have two complete end-panels for an RCA 3-BX-671, with a broken antenna in the right-hand side, in case anyone needs one. I will probably never throw them away...but my wife might. ;-( jak > Tim. > Article: 328464 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <8vxtf.24335$Ou3.20665@dukeread09> <1136043483.199811.291660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1136050160.618510.163030@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: So that's where they went... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:26:11 -0330 "Terry S" wrote in message news:1136050160.618510.163030@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I asked the seller what became of the radios. Perhaps we will know. > > Terry. > Oh! Gosh. I've just asked the ebay seller the same question. I should'a read the news group first! Signed: A different Terry S Article: 328465 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) Subject: Sylvania Oscilloscope Type 131 schematic. Date: 31 Dec 2005 20:16:44 GMT Message-ID: Anyone have a schematic for this old (1950-ish) scope? Or a link? TIA. Steve. -- Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Article: 328466 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43B6E799.8000404@socal.rr.com> From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Free (Cost of Shipping Only) To Good (any) Home References: <1136059639.020862.86100@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 20:18:41 GMT Peter Wieck wrote: > 3. Misc. Grab Box, including a lead-acid/sealed lead acid battery > charger (12V) w/meter from an old Emergency Light system. I promise at > least one random radio-related part as well. Did I stick my hand up soon enough? > Jeff: I have been concentrating on cleaning out my bench... my wife > gave me some VERY nice bits and pieces related to work surface and > storage, so it is due. When I get rid of the junk, I will turn towards > your tubes. So, ah, buy grabbing one of these "make it go away" packages I'm actually speeding things up right? ;-) Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328467 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:30:49 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: How to wire variac with voltmeter and ammeter? References: <43B43E45.4B0C1927@earthlink.net> <1135901447.979258.38720@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <0Z-dnUmH_pKHUCveRVn-hw@comcast.com> Message-ID: <8ced2$43b6ea7a$4232bd18$24664@COQUI.NET> Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > And easier (also lazy) method is to look at the tag on the back of > the radio. If it reads 60 Watts at 110 Volts, then that means it > shouldn't draw more than 0.545 amps. So, as you crank up the Variac > if it goes up over 0.6 amps, you know you have a problem. > > Jeff > > > Tube radios will generally draw less amperage at lower voltages so you shouldn't reach that tag rating (watts or amps) until you hit full voltage. -Bill Article: 328468 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:30:53 -0500 From: Tom Sullivan Subject: Re: SHURE M5D NEEDLE NEEDED References: <1136053889.185824.214390@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <43b6eab8$0$76019$9a6e19ea@news.newshosting.com> Try these folks. They have needles for about anything: http://www.garage-a-records.com/index.php Tom bex@ezonline.com wrote: > I am in need of a needle for a shure m5d cartridge. > It is a mono lp needle. > Thanks. > Article: 328469 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:34:06 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: So that's where they went... References: <8vxtf.24335$Ou3.20665@dukeread09> <1136043483.199811.291660@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1136050160.618510.163030@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <385f3$43b6eb3f$4232bd18$24664@COQUI.NET> Terry wrote: > "Terry S" wrote in message > news:1136050160.618510.163030@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >>I asked the seller what became of the radios. Perhaps we will know. >> >>Terry. >> > > Oh! Gosh. I've just asked the ebay seller the same question. > > I should'a read the news group first! > > Signed: A different Terry S > > No, he needs about 3000 emails asking what he did with the radios. -Bill Article: 328470 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "rogguer-rogguer" Subject: Worst e-bay of all Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 15:34:28 -0500 Message-ID: This has got to be the worst e-bay'er of all time bar none. Far worse than even a certain 'seller of pre-owned ham radio gear and/or vintage radios' that we all know of. http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=alisher71&ite ms=25&page=1&frompage=-1&iid=-1&de=off E-Bay should also be held accountable for facilitating this scammer. Is all that e-Bay interested in is keeping their Seller's happy and the Fee Revenus rolling in un-hindered ?? Seems so ! Article: 328471 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron Subject: Re: Worst e-bay of all Date: 31 Dec 2005 16:05:24 EST Message-ID: References: Obviously this guy found out a way to make a quick buck. First list a couple hundred items in a short period of time that will bring big bucks, the guy had good feedback so everyone pays, then take the money and run. I don't think eBay has a way to stop this from happening. It happened to me a couple of years ago with an auto parts dealer that was selling on eBay. He had a few thousand good feedback's so why would I not send him the money? within three weeks every feedback was neg. I didn't get the item or my money back. People go bankrupt everyday. rogguer-rogguer wrote: > This has got to be the worst e-bay'er of all time bar none. > > Far worse than even a certain 'seller of pre-owned > ham radio gear and/or vintage radios' that we all know of. > > http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=alisher71&ite > ms=25&page=1&frompage=-1&iid=-1&de=off > > E-Bay should also be held accountable for facilitating this scammer. > Is all that e-Bay interested in is keeping their Seller's happy and > the Fee Revenus rolling in un-hindered ?? Seems so ! > Article: 328472 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: Free (Cost of Shipping Only) To Good (any) Home References: <1136059639.020862.86100@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 21:10:38 GMT Peter Wieck wrote: > 1. Zenith 6G004 (Meridian) Dual-Band chassis and case. Defects include: > -Missing Wavemagnet > -Missing Waverod > -Missing Red Cord > -Missing Knobs > -Broken Latch > -Cut Power Cord > > Good top handle > Decent case, with defects noted above) > Good faceplate & grille-cloth > Has tubes (Untested) > Good Speaker > Good tuning cap (Moves and does not appear to bind) I would like to have this one if it has not been claimed. I have sent you an e-mail. Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Article: 328473 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: Worst e-bay of all Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 21:15:32 GMT Why is this eBay's fault? Most of the problems seem to have occurred very recently. Prior to about 12/13/05, his record was pretty decent. Once the flood of negatives came in, eBay pulled his plug promptly. The change in his performance is so startling and abrupt, you might wonder whether he had an accident or a serious medical problem. -- Mike Schultz "rogguer-rogguer" wrote in message news:cc242$43b6f974$d1cc5764$2759@snip.allthenewsgroups.com... > This has got to be the worst e-bay'er of all time bar none. > > Far worse than even a certain 'seller of pre-owned > ham radio gear and/or vintage radios' that we all know of. > > http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=alisher71&ite > ms=25&page=1&frompage=-1&iid=-1&de=off > > E-Bay should also be held accountable for facilitating this scammer. > Is all that e-Bay interested in is keeping their Seller's happy and > the Fee Revenus rolling in un-hindered ?? Seems so ! > Article: 328474 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Justin Riem" References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:25:54 -0500 www.am740.ca Took over the CBC clear channel transmitter outside of Toronto. Tuesday, Thursday and Sunday nights from 7 to midnight are devoted to big band and swing music. Justin "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:Edztf.9887$hI1.9481@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > http://www.ktnnonline.com/ > > Jeff > > > -- > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 328475 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bartley Subject: Re: Worst e-bay of all References: Message-ID: <_RCtf.7607$l87.1007871@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:37:05 -0500 rogguer-rogguer wrote: > This has got to be the worst e-bay'er of all time bar none. > > Far worse than even a certain 'seller of pre-owned > ham radio gear and/or vintage radios' that we all know of. This looks pretty bad and I'm sure that the folks who were or are about to be scammed are unhappy, but I also remember this happening with a seller from Lithuania that went by the name of KWTUBES. He also sorta' vanished for a little while and then showed up again, cleared everything up and went back into business. That was a strange one too because he was doing a massive business with good service (I bought from him both before and after his meltdown) and when he reappeared, his inventory was very different .... same sort of stuff, just different ... hard to explain. I wondered if he was being too successful and maybe he got strongarmed ...? He's still there. -- regards from :: John Bartley 43 Norway Spruce Street Stittsville, Ontario Canada, K2S1P5 ( If you slow down it takes longer - does that apply to life also?) Article: 328476 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Worst e-bay of all Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 17:05:13 -0500 Doesn't eBay provide some buyer protection? Pete Article: 328477 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: Worst e-bay of all Message-ID: <8kDtf.5485$nj1.4028@fe06.lga> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:09:07 -0600 "Ron" wrote in message > I don't think eBay has a way to stop this from happening. It happened > to me a couple of years ago with an auto parts dealer that was selling on > eBay. He had a few thousand good feedback's so why would I not send him > the money? within three weeks every feedback was neg. I didn't get the > item or my money back. > > People go bankrupt everyday. Sometimes they die or get sick or ? Ebay should cover these odd events. Lord knows they can afford it. -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 328478 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: Worst e-bay of all Message-ID: <8rDtf.5488$nj1.4027@fe06.lga> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:16:35 -0600 http://www.onemadguy.com/alisher71sux/ Article: 328479 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: Subject: Re: Worst e-bay of all Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 17:04:21 -0500 Message-ID: <43b709f5$0$3759$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> I could understand the anger if all he had was negative feedback. But before the 14th, there was nothing but good reviews. So wha' hoppen? "rogguer-rogguer" wrote in message news:cc242$43b6f974$d1cc5764$2759@snip.allthenewsgroups.com... > This has got to be the worst e-bay'er of all time bar none. > > Far worse than even a certain 'seller of pre-owned > ham radio gear and/or vintage radios' that we all know of. > > http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=alisher71&ite > ms=25&page=1&frompage=-1&iid=-1&de=off > > E-Bay should also be held accountable for facilitating this scammer. > Is all that e-Bay interested in is keeping their Seller's happy and > the Fee Revenus rolling in un-hindered ?? Seems so ! > Article: 328480 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hank" References: Subject: Re: Emerson Snow White front panel reproduction Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 17:49:07 -0500 A little trick I spotted in a shop that makes custom cultured marble bathtubs. Mount a fractional HP electric motor solidly to the work table. Take a 3 inch or so V belt pully and cut or break of a portion to create an imbalance. Worked great taking the bubbles out of the epoxy mixture. Hank "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:ndydnSu12cOxnCrenZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@giganews.com... > I finally got time to make a mold and test casting of the front panel on my > Emerson Snow White 247 radio. Here's the original and the repro. > > http://antiqueradio.org/art/EmersonSnowWhite24711.jpg > http://antiqueradio.org/art/EmersonSnowWhite24713.jpg > > The repro is close, but not perfect (tiny bubbles). Maybe with more > practice, I can minimize the bubbles. I'm not about to invest in an > expensive vacuum chamber for something that is probably a one-off project. > > Since the repro panel will have to be finished in any event, I made no > attempt to color the casting material. > > In case anyone's curious, the mold was made of poured urethane (Smooth-On) > and the cast from urethane as well (Tap Plastics). > > After I get a casting that's acceptable, I'll update my Snow White page with > some photos of the mold/cast process, plus some dos and don'ts I learned > along the way. > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > Article: 328481 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 19:12:02 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Worst e-bay of all References: <8rDtf.5488$nj1.4027@fe06.lga> Message-ID: Brian Hill wrote: > http://www.onemadguy.com/alisher71sux/ > > Hmmm, apparently the 100 or so negatives showing are just the tip of the iceberg before they closed the acct. $88,000+ just in the victims who posted to that site. Damn. -Bill Article: 328482 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Emerson Snow White front panel reproduction Message-ID: <3mEtf.50601$vT1.1590277@wagner.videotron.net> Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 18:19:33 -0500 "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:ndydnSu12cOxnCrenZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@giganews.com... >I finally got time to make a mold and test casting of the front panel on my >Emerson Snow White 247 radio. Here's the original and the repro. > > http://antiqueradio.org/art/EmersonSnowWhite24711.jpg > http://antiqueradio.org/art/EmersonSnowWhite24713.jpg > > The repro is close, but not perfect (tiny bubbles). Maybe with more > practice, I can minimize the bubbles. You could cast a million times and there will still be tiny bubbles. It has nothing to do with practice. I use smooth-on products and took a course in casting/molding. A vacuum chamber is a necessity. A pressure chamber will break the tiny bubbles into millions of microscopic bubbles. There are still there but harder to see. A vacuum chamber will take the bubbles out as they are water trapped in the urethane (or whatever casting product used). The only way to minimize the bubbles without using a vacuum chamber is to cast in a very low humidity environment (air conditioned room for example). Syl Article: 328483 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." Subject: Wanted: Philco 50 Cabinet Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:40:22 GMT I managed to find a chassis to fit my mode 20 cabinet, so now I'm looking for a cabinet in which to put my 50 chassis. Anyone out there have one? Condition isn't important, as long as all (or at least most) of the pieces are there. Thanks. Article: 328484 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RF Burns IVX" References: <8rDtf.5488$nj1.4027@fe06.lga> Subject: Re: Worst e-bay of all Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 18:42:43 -0500 Message-ID: <8daf1$43b72568$d1cc7a0b$5359@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> "Bill" wrote in message news:d6018$43b71044$4232bd18$20737@COQUI.NET... > Brian Hill wrote: > > > http://www.onemadguy.com/alisher71sux/ > > > > > > Hmmm, apparently the 100 or so negatives showing are just the tip of the > iceberg before they closed the acct. $88,000+ just in the victims who > posted to that site. > Damn. > > -Bill Turns out this may be the one of the largest online e-Bay facilitated scams to hit the State of Florida: Link: http://www.wzzm13.com/news/news_article.aspx?storyid=48363 see also: http://alischersucks.blogspot.com/ see also: http://www.onemadguy.com/alisher71sux/ Article: 328485 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" Subject: **** HAPPY TUBE YEAR **** Message-ID: <5EFtf.106774$65.3083487@twister1.libero.it> Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 00:46:57 GMT TO ALL THE GROUP, TO THE ONES IN THE CORNER TOO, TO YOUR FAMILIES AND PETS, MY BEST WISHES FOR AN HAPPY AND ALWAYS BETTER NEW YEAR! -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 328486 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 16:30:33 -0800 Message-ID: References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> <1135915807.418827.15430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <87988$43b4bac1$4232bdc9$14475@COQUI.NET> Bill wrote: > I guess the argument is that of "Common Good". I'll address that > argument. (It worked well to break up Ma Bell) Media outlets have a > very large influence on the public as a whole. When one media > conglomerate has 20% listenership in a market, which isn't uncommon for > CC, they have the ability to set trends and if you reach far enough, > they can even upset the social fabric. I'm thinking dope-oriented and > rap-violence type of stuff now. May be inadvertant and not intentional > but... > > Arguing with myself now...their 20% isn't big cheese compared to the > Big-3 TV days when a single network had up to a third of the market > share. But the media behaves differently nowadays in that irresponsible > in-yo-face anarchy is in vogue. > > What do you think? > > -Bill The multi-ownership thing came in as part of the Telecommunications Act of 1996. The belief was at the time that the rules regarding station ownership were too restrictive. Partially fueling that belief was the presumption that the large media companies would probably win the right to purchase more stations in court if the act was not passed. I think it was one of the worst things that has ever happened in the history of mass media......Stations need some form of local identity that is too often lost when local ownership evaporates. The end result is a lot of bland crap and frequent format changes that seem to have little to do with what the target audience wants to hear. Compared to that, shortwave and satelitte offerings are looking better and better all the time. I've often wondered of late whether the blandness of corporate radio, coupled with the increasingly absurd fines for breach of "decency", is part of a grand plan to kill off terrestrial radio entirely so the spectrum could be sold off and used for something else. A similar fate is already happening to analog TV in 2009, why not radio? -Scott "Damn, it's wet here in Northern California" Harvey -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org (At least they will be when power is restored) Article: 328487 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: So what is on AM these days ? Date: Sun, 1 Jan 2006 09:59:57 +0900 Message-ID: References: <29603-43B3EAFC-3@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> <1135915807.418827.15430@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <87988$43b4bac1$4232bdc9$14475@COQUI.NET> "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:dp77r9029m4@news2.newsguy.com... > I've often wondered of late whether the blandness of corporate radio, > coupled with the increasingly absurd fines for breach of "decency", is > part of a grand plan to kill off terrestrial radio entirely so the > spectrum could be sold off and used for something else. A similar fate is > already happening to analog TV in 2009, why not radio? Who would they sell it off to, and what would they use it for? All the new technology requires UHF and higher frequencies in order to keep the size small. Who, besides pirates, would want the AM BCB? Or even the FM BCB for that matter, with those 60" wide Yagi antennas?? From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Sat Dec 31 22:50:38 EST 2005 Article: 328488 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: So that's where they went... References: <1136050913.839825.31730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1136066944.284200.323080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 10 Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 01:27:11 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com 1136078831 66.65.49.10 (Sat, 31 Dec 2005 20:27:11 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 20:27:11 EST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!news-feed-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:328488 In article <1136066944.284200.323080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, Terry S wrote: > HI,THEY WERE IN BAD SHAPE AND A MAN PICKED THEM UP FOR THE TUBES.THANKS That's what I assumed. The cabinets must have been way-rotted or cracked. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. From stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Sat Dec 31 22:50:38 EST 2005 Article: 328489 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stephanie Weil Subject: Re: free '64 Magnavox TV/Hi-Fi References: Reply-To: stephanie-at-gordsven-dot-com Message-ID: User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Linux) Lines: 20 Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 01:32:02 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.65.49.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com 1136079122 66.65.49.10 (Sat, 31 Dec 2005 20:32:02 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 20:32:02 EST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!news-feed-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-out.nyc.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:328489 In article , Forward Look Frank wrote: > I have a '64 Magnavox 21" color TV with the 4 speed > record changer and AM/FM stereo radio. The Radio and Phonograph work well, > the TV does not work. It has a beautiful maple wood cabinet in very good to This is what you do with it: Put a doily on top of the console. Then put another TV set on top of it. A smaller one obviously. Like a 19" set. When that set conks out, put a doily on the 19 incher and put an even smaller set on top of THAT. Use a frying pan and a coat hanger for an aerial. ENJOY! :) -- Stephanie Weil New York City, U.S.A. Article: 328490 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: What Do You Want on Your Tumb Stone ? Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 18:58:56 -0700 Message-ID: References: <11rc1letkj508b9@corp.supernews.com> <11rc30b22bedg6d@corp.supernews.com> <1136009913.612262.169680@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1136011619.731354.324480@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1136043902.116657.148080@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> ah when the mind goes it must make life much easier than dealing with reality... randy > Americans do fund schools, it's just that so much money (and time) is > wasted on non-academic, feel-good, self-esteem classes. Kids are busy > learning how to feel "good" about being illiterate, pregnant, and > narcissistic. > Article: 328491 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Emerson Snow White front panel reproduction References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 21:04:07 -0500 One hint I ran across for the bubble problem, pour the material through a strainer, it helps break the bubbles. Ken Phil Nelson wrote: > I finally got time to make a mold and test casting of the front panel on my > Emerson Snow White 247 radio. Here's the original and the repro. > > http://antiqueradio.org/art/EmersonSnowWhite24711.jpg > http://antiqueradio.org/art/EmersonSnowWhite24713.jpg > > The repro is close, but not perfect (tiny bubbles). Maybe with more > practice, I can minimize the bubbles. I'm not about to invest in an > expensive vacuum chamber for something that is probably a one-off project. > > Since the repro panel will have to be finished in any event, I made no > attempt to color the casting material. > > In case anyone's curious, the mold was made of poured urethane (Smooth-On) > and the cast from urethane as well (Tap Plastics). > > After I get a casting that's acceptable, I'll update my Snow White page with > some photos of the mold/cast process, plus some dos and don'ts I learned > along the way. > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > Article: 328492 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Crazy George" References: <3jltf.35543$q45.28986@fe17.lga> <43b6908c@kcnews01> <4r6dnaV8JPYaCyveRVn-qQ@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Electrolytic WVDC Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 20:21:44 -0600 Message-ID: <43b73cd3@kcnews01> "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:4r6dnaV8JPYaCyveRVn-qQ@comcast.com... > The capacitor ratings are, of course, for continuous DC voltage. Pulses > that > push the net voltage higher are another matter. > > Well, therein lies the problem. The pulse voltage amplitude is still within WVDC ratings. Think about this: Certain antenna rotators use a ~100 MFD, non-polarized electrolytic to shift the phase for a split phase motor. Nominally 100 VAC rated, and the actual motor voltage is around 35 VAC RMS. The caps are an inch in diameter and inch and a half long. Now, from the store you can buy a non-polar electrolytic which is literally one fourth the volume (i. e. tiny) rated at 100 MFD., 100 volts. I have never had the nerve to try one in a motor circuit, but how long do you think that booger would last? Here again, current is the culprit. -- Crazy George W5VPQ My real address is my ham call ARRL.NET The ATTGlobal is a SPAM trap.