Article: 329144 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin" References: <1137079952.531266.215900@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <43c6fe83$0$1475$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net> <1137157024.914400.289350@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Tesla Talisman project blog Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 23:18:49 -0000 Message-ID: <43c8355a$0$82657$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader03.plus.net> "Terry S" wrote in message news:1137157024.914400.289350@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Thank you for the comments Martin. I also have a 504U, and you're > right, it's voltage plug is much more complex. > > Here is a fellow who sells repro Tesla (and other) dials, although he > does not return my emails: > > http://www.radioverzameling.nl/repro/uk/ > Ah, yes, Ben Dijkman. They look promising, thanks. Lots of other interesting things like Philips badges, too. > How DO you retension the tube sockets correctly? > Trial and error, I'm afraid, just poking around with the centre until it's secure, after building up any broken plastic centre collar with epoxy. > Terry. > Richard Booth is also a Tesla fan, with whom I've exchanged various spares over the years, and is always very helpful. There are some restorations described on his site. http://www.pasttimesradio.co.uk/ Martin. Article: 329145 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Re 6X5 problems in Zenith References: <1137195697.490057.47900@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 23:56:08 GMT Neil, I have found that the best solution is just as you have stated. Get a late version that has the same internals as the 6X4 which has no unusual problems than any other rectifier tube made after the war. nesesu wrote: > A while back there was a thread about 6X5 rectifiers commonly failing > in Zenith radios.The general comment was that the failure was usually > from cathode to heater and either lifting the heater from ground > [separate transformer] or subbing such as 1N4007 diodes was the best > solution as well as fusing the B voltage winding with panel lamps. I am > not keen on using the sand diodes since they can create RF noise [yes, > that can be supressed] and that the B+ comes up instantly and stays > high until the heaters of the tubes warm up and the tubes draw current, > thus excessively stressing the filter caps in the interim. > Although the 6X4 has the same ratings as the 6X5, what is it's failure > history like? If that design is more reliable than the 6X5 it would be > easy to adapt one to an octal 6X5 socket, or, more easily, get a late > model 6X5 that uses the 6X4 internals. > After seeing the AK photos on the alt.binaries, I am very sympathetic > since I was not at all impressed with the underside of this Zenith > 7S657 I have been restoring. The Zenith must have also been built in > layers using many large subassemblies prewired [with welded on rubber > wires] and then connected to the other assemblies. Nasty!! I must say, > though, that now restored, the performance is really very good for a '6 > tube' circuit. > > Neil S. > Article: 329146 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Tesla Talisman 308U: improving AM reception. References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:03:16 -0500 Does the RF tank track well with the OSC tank? I have had to add/delete wire from loop antennas to get this right. Ken Buzzygirl wrote: > Hello, > > My boyfriend recently acquired a Telsa Talisman 308U. It's a beautiful dark > red color and the dial has names of cities around the world. It looks very > cool and seems to work well on the shortwave bands with a random length > wire. > > Here is the issue: He is having a problem receiving any AM stations outside > of the two biggest local "flamethrowers." He's not sure why it won't > receive smaller, but still close-in stations. He does live in a second-floor > apartment. I told him to try putting the radio near a window and see if that > would help. It doesn't seem to do much, nor does rotating the radio. > > He's trying to find an antenna for better AM reception. I don't have a > schematic for this radio, but I would think there must be some sort of > ferrite bar antenna inside. I have found online several AM-loop antenna > projects that might be helpful, but I'm just wondering if there's a single > best solution for improving AM reception on this radio. > > I'm fairly knowledgable about shortwave antennas, but less so about > mediumwave antennas. Any helpful hints in this regard would certainly be > welcomed. Thanks. > > Jackie > > Article: 329147 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: OT: Further Speculation on ET/ALIENS Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:40:28 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1137174548.711691.16730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> In <1137174548.711691.16730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" writes: >Required Reading: >"First Contact" Murray Leinster >"Childhood's End" Arthur C. Clarke >"World of Ptavvs" Larry Niven I'd add Niven's "Protector", for a REALLY interesting answer to "Where did we come from?" -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 329148 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43C8519D.7010406@excite.com> From: "David E. Jones" Subject: Re: Dabase for 78's? References: <43C70EF7.60606@excite.com> Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:19:25 -0500 Bill, Thanks for your response, and it confirmed what I was thinking. My 78s are now in a a flat file Alpha Four database, and I liked the idea of reducing the redundancy. I'm fairly adept at using Access, and haven't gotten around to doing anything with my 78s database. It's a different animal from my other audio formats (except 45s), so there was no sense in adding them to an LP or CD database, but the track information can be shared so I can reference titles in my other modern and obsolete audio formats. David William B Noble (don't reply to this address) wrote: > well, I used MS Access and used it as a relational database - I don't > understand the charge that Access is a PITA, and there is no way to > make anything but a very crude flat file in Excel - the database I > made has an artist table (name, etc), a "record" table (title, number, > etc", a "song" table (title, author) - then I added relations - an > artist HAS one or more records, a record HAS one or more songs - that > way, I can SELECT on song title, for example and find what I want > quickly - I made a simple data entry form for the front end, and as I > recall I added some additional tables for where the record was stored > and some other info. If you use a flat file like Excel, you have to > re-enter all sorts of data each time (like the artist name for each > song he/she recorded), it's just a mess. > > as for MS access being slow, I have used it in systems currently > operational as a multi-national command and control system linking 6 > nations, and it's plenty fast enough for that application - it's not > Oracle, but for databases of a few hundred thousand records its OK and > it's cheap. And the graphical editor is a great way to build the > relations in almost no time. > > > > On Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:22:47 -0500, "David E. Jones" > wrote: > > >>Wayne Boatwright wrote: >> >> >>>You can create a very efficient database in MS Access if you know how. >>> >>> >>>On Tue 03 Jan 2006 12:10:28a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Phil B? >>> >>> >>> >>>>If you have MS Office you can use Access, but it's a PITA. Slow and >>>>non-intuitive. I suggest an Excel spreadsheet. It's easy to start and >>>>enhance. Add columns for various descriptive attributes. Later you can >>>>sort on columns to home in to what you are looking for. When you add a >>>>line, just type appropriate info in the various columns and then re-sort >>>>to put it in its place. >>>> >>>>Phil B >> >> >>For those of you who have made a database for 78s: Did you create a >>relational database? I'm planning to migrate my old Alpha Four database >>to Access, and thought it may be best for the main table to be a Label >>With Mfg. Number, with song titles for each side linked to it, then >>artists and composers linked to the Titles. Has someone found that this >>works, or is there a better way? >> >>Thanks. > Article: 329149 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: OT: Further Speculation on ET/ALIENS Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 01:15:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1137174548.711691.16730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1137185133.619185.286570@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137195288.869532.249820@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1137195288.869532.249820@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "frenchy" writes: >More OT - I wonder how humans 'thought' before speech and language was >invented. It's hard to imagine thinking without those. They just sat >around dreaming up pictures and images and visual scenarios in their >heads? I guess you'd have to have somebody grow up as an adult with no >language, writing, speech, learning, etc., then teach it to them, then >have them explain what was really zipping thru their heads before they >got smart! Good thing it's Friday, this is making my head hurt... Sometimes, the trick is to get beyond language. It can be a limitation. You can't think of something that you can't string several words together to describe. Hence, new languages need to be invented, such as abstract mathematics. Which doesn't always do the job, either. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 329150 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1137174548.711691.16730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Further Speculation on ET/ALIENS Message-ID: <5zYxf.13051$iQ.1074@tornado.southeast.rr.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 01:34:57 GMT > "Childhood's End" Arthur C. Clarke > "World of Ptavvs" Larry Niven > Childhood's End and most anything by Larry Niven are some of the best SF reading there is. Larry's known space series through Ringworld is GREAT. I've read them all over and over. Ron Article: 329151 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: No wonder A. Atwater Kent went out of business Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 01:50:27 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1137075127.930092.92540@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <13935-43C67630-227@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> In "Gary Tayman" writes: >I don't know about Al Jolson, but there was a song called, "He'd have to get >under, get out and get under, to fix up his automobile" on The Victor label. That's it. >It was among the records in my Victrola cabinet, before I gave it to my >cousin -- this player has been in the family since new. I don't recall who >sang it, might have been billy Murray but I think it was someone else. The >flip side was "Wilhelm the Grocer." It was Al Jolson. >I no longer have the record, but before giving it away I taped all of >them -- should be able to find it without too much hassle. I liked that song enough that I bought the soundtrack CD when "Horatio's Drive" came out. But now that I've got a 78rpm record playing machine, I'd luv to score the actual foot-long biscuit. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 329152 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: No wonder A. Atwater Kent went out of business Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:48:59 -0600 Message-ID: <13935-43C8588B-539@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: Tin Pan Alley Music. cuhulin Article: 329153 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Soldering Irons or Stations Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:56:30 -0600 Message-ID: <13935-43C85A4E-540@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: I own a bunch of those old timey gasoline torches,most of them,the little pump plungers are worn out.And I also own a few old timey soldering irons,heat them up red hot as you want them,can solder anything. cuhulin Article: 329154 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: No wonder A. Atwater Kent went out of business Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 02:12:43 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1137075127.930092.92540@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <13935-43C67630-227@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> In Tim Mullen writes: >In "Gary Tayman" writes: >>I don't know about Al Jolson, but there was a song called, "He'd have to get >>under, get out and get under, to fix up his automobile" on The Victor label. > That's it. >>It was among the records in my Victrola cabinet, before I gave it to my >>cousin -- this player has been in the family since new. I don't recall who >>sang it, might have been billy Murray but I think it was someone else. The >>flip side was "Wilhelm the Grocer." > It was Al Jolson. Mea culpa. I just looked up the CD, and the track "He'd Have to Get Under - Get Out And Get Under" (whadda title!) is listed by Bobby Horton. Whoever that is. Good to know it was on the Victor label, that narrows it down when leafing thru the stacks of shellac. Thanks, Gary! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 329155 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1137178975.720104.124480@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1137195865.096413.54290@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith 7 S 363 dark veneer... Message-ID: <37_xf.99524$ME5.34431@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 03:21:35 GMT Ahh... Australian Laurel! and he has a nicely endowed version. This set was also made with a darker walnut (I dont think it was the Laurel) replacing the quilted Maple, I had one but havent seen another. Thanks, Keith "PTurney" wrote in message news:1137195865.096413.54290@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hi, > > Sonny, on his site http://www.radiolaguy.com/Zenith7S363.htm, indicates > the woods used on this model. > Paul > Article: 329156 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Help, Does anybody know anything about this Zenith radio? Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 19:17:18 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1137135421.852815.184560@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137170312.970156.289250@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I have never seen this particular radio in the flesh. However, I am at least 99% sure it is a genuine and completely original Zenith factory product. I have a different Zenith model that has EXACTLY the same band coverage as this one, and the dial markings are in EXACTLY the same font as this one! This eBay item is one of Zenith's "export" models, intended for sale in places like Europe where shortwave capability was a must in order to sell the set. They didn't produce a lot of these, so they used existing production cabinets intended for domestic non-shortwave tabletops to save on tooling costs. That's why you see the mysterious "FM 100" marking when there's no FM band on this set. (My set uses a cabinet that is identical to the domestic H615 tabletop, which I post a picture of in the binaries when I am able). Both our sets appear to share a number of things in common: 1. A model number ending in a letter, most likely the letter "T" (mine is model H517T).....You say yours also ends in T. 2. Some way to set the operating voltage to 220 volts. (My set uses a jumpered socket into which a ballast resistor can be plugged in to drop the voltage). I see what appears to be a switch or jumper on the power transformer of the chassis photo. Does that set the voltage? 3. The schematic is virtually unobtainable, and the model number does not show up in any official Zenith model number listing (I've been searching for a schematic for my set for five years with no joy). Sure wish I'd seen this one.....I would have bid on it in a heartbeat. It looks practically mint and would complement my other set rather well. I wonder how many different models they made like this? -Scott feldtm@msn.com wrote: > Well, it looks like I need to establish and clear up some points about > this radio. First of all, I'm 100% convinced that this model "IS" > all factory original. Has anybody really taken a good look at the > chassis at the bottom of the Zenith web page that I posted? Has any > Zenith experts out there ever seen a Zenith chassis like this one? It's > gold painted just like the 30s sets, has a power transformer, 6K6 > output tube, three 455 kc. I.F. transformers, six tubes instead of > seven that is used in the H-725, a three band silk-screened brass dial > which is frosted in the band areas so that you can pencil mark the > stations in which you want to remember their spot on the dial, and it's > dated 1954. I've seen the chassis of the H-725 and its chassis feature > none of these aspects. Now, originally, I did forget to mention that > there is no AM loop antenna in this radio like in so many radios of > that time period. AM, SW1, and SW2 all have internal antenna coils and > are all designed to run on a single extended aril just like a early > 1930s radio, in this case, a telescoping antenna is used. Now, I admit, > the telescoping antenna does look a bit amateurish and hoky but after > all at least it is a Zenith antenna. Now, that's a lot of alterations > for some armature to do upon such a common radio like the H-725. That's > why I'm convinced it's original. I think it's either an export set > that had limited production, a factory prototype or mock up, or it was > a pre production test set, something of which a few Zenith employees > were allowed to take home and evaluate for possible full production. > Also note that the auction for this radio did originate from the > Chicago area. So, does anybody know any thing more about this mystery > radio? What's you're opinion on it? Any little bit would help. > > Regards > Michael Feldt > www.indianaradios.com > -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 329157 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Soldering Irons or Stations Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:32:02 -0700 Message-ID: <26972-43C870B2-581@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net> References: Yes MR Jeff that will work ! I forgot about another big honkin solder gun out in the garage that i use for big chassis globs . And A good technician could do a decent job with a rusty nail and a cigarette lighter. A hack will do a poor job regardless of what his "weapon" of choice is. Jeff You are so right . Article: 329158 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Its nice when another .... Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 20:35:58 -0700 Message-ID: <26974-43C8719E-62@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net> Radio chassis is done . A Philco 96 hi-boy this time . Putt-n in the last filter cap . Pretty good radio other than it stops at 1500 . Oh well :-) Article: 329159 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Interesting find (not mine) Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 21:09:00 -0700 Message-ID: References: <8_Wdncexsbm9wFreRVn-rA@qx.net> On Fri, 13 Jan 2006 02:56:02 -0500, Theresa McCarty wrote: > Here's one, maybe... the tube lineup looks too short or incomplete. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Airline-Table-4-Tube-AC-DC-AM-Radio-Works_W0QQitemZ6595597071QQcategoryZ38035QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- There are lots of 4 tube superhets out there. This one is unique in that it has an IF stage. The usual tube line up goes 12AU6, 12AV6, 50C5, and 35W4. There are variations. I have a Silvertone model 1 (where did they get that number from?) that uses a 12SA7, 12SQ7, 50L6, and 35Z5. It works fine - - - - on local stations. I can see why a TRF might be attractive from a parts cost perspective, it eliminates the IF transformer without changing much else. However, the labor must have been significantly greater. Ever try to align a TRF? I did one once, with a 2 gang capacitor. It took about 2 hours IIRC; mostly spent bending capacitor plates to get it to track across the band so that reception would be decent. And this was a radio that had worked at one time. I hate to think what it would be like starting from scratch! Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 329160 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <20330-43C5439A-32@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> <1137010798.262484.46630@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1137067973.431762.220530@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137116395.370052.219390@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: SF and Radios: Was: I Wish Message-ID: Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 23:03:04 -0600 "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:dq7384$9n6$1@reader2.panix.com... > In <1137116395.370052.219390@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" writes: > > >>Why so? The Dangerous Universe Theory says there be some real mean > >>mothers out there. As I said, grim viewpoint. > > >Did you not read the entire paragraph? > > Yes. > > >If a species with practical FTL had to hide, that requires something > >to hide _from_. > > The real mean mothers. > > >That leaves us where? > > In a circle? > I read somewhere the best evidence of intelligent life out there is that they've never tried to contact us. (Probably a sig in this group.) Anyway... we've done vintage cars. Now... how many in this group are also readers/collectors of SF? Put me down for several hundred hard- and soft covers in my bookshelf. Nelson Article: 329161 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43C8936E.265276E9@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Soldering Irons or Stations References: <71d7s1hgnpvam2o9n5f3k3jbuls9g1mbm1@4ax.com> <11s824v34hefoe3@corp.supernews.com> <__Kdnfwv0sWO7FnenZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@comcast.com> <11s93h7ilsevc2c@corp.supernews.com> <354hs1htn8d5oobd7qbpcu03h2ilm0frq5@4ax.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 06:00:34 GMT Andy Cuffe wrote: > > On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 00:48:37 -0400, - exray - wrote: > > >> > >Its easier just to fix the cord. > > > >-Bill > > I wish I could find somewhere to buy soldering station cord. That > multi conductor silicone insulated cord seems to be impossible to > find. > Andy Cuffe > > acuffe@gmail.com It is made by Belden. Maybe you could request a four foot sample? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 329162 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43C895C5.78580CDA@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: SF and Radios: Was: I Wish References: <20330-43C5439A-32@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> <1137010798.262484.46630@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1137067973.431762.220530@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137116395.370052.219390@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 06:10:34 GMT Nelson Gietz wrote: > > "Tim Mullen" wrote in message > news:dq7384$9n6$1@reader2.panix.com... > > In <1137116395.370052.219390@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" > writes: > > > > >>Why so? The Dangerous Universe Theory says there be some real mean > > >>mothers out there. As I said, grim viewpoint. > > > > >Did you not read the entire paragraph? > > > > Yes. > > > > >If a species with practical FTL had to hide, that requires something > > >to hide _from_. > > > > The real mean mothers. > > > > >That leaves us where? > > > > In a circle? > > > I read somewhere the best evidence of intelligent life out there is that > they've never tried to contact us. (Probably a sig in this group.) Yeah, they took one look at the internet and usenet, and decided that mankind is too backwards to waste their time on. ;-) Nothing but porn, scams and politics! > Anyway... we've done vintage cars. Now... how many in this group are > also readers/collectors of SF? Put me down for several hundred hard- and > soft covers in my bookshelf. > Nelson Have you read any of the old "Perry Rhodan" series? I had over 100 volumes that were stolen, but they left the crappy Star Trek books behind. :( I lost over 300 Science Fiction paperbacks in that one theft. One of my favorite Science Fiction books is "Early Asimov". It is a collection of some of his early, and his worst stories. He released to to tell people to keep writing, to hone their skills. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 329163 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: SF and Radios: Was: I Wish Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 06:32:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20330-43C5439A-32@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> <1137010798.262484.46630@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1137067973.431762.220530@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137116395.370052.219390@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43C895C5.78580CDA@earthlink.net> In <43C895C5.78580CDA@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: >Nelson Gietz wrote: >> I read somewhere the best evidence of intelligent life out there is that >> they've never tried to contact us. (Probably a sig in this group.) > Yeah, they took one look at the internet and usenet, and decided that >mankind is too backwards to waste their time on. ;-) Nothing but porn, >scams and politics! You know that stuff you get that looks like gibberish, and you delete it as spam? Perhaps that was an Important Message. Somewhere out there an alien is tearing out its antennae, yelling "They're not LISTENING!!!" :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 329164 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DaveW Subject: Re: No wonder A. Atwater Kent went out of business References: <1137075127.930092.92540@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <13935-43C67630-227@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 06:38:00 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > In Tim Mullen writes: > > >>In "Gary Tayman" writes: > > >>>I don't know about Al Jolson, but there was a song called, "He'd have to get >>>under, get out and get under, to fix up his automobile" on The Victor label. > > >> That's it. > > >>>It was among the records in my Victrola cabinet, before I gave it to my >>>cousin -- this player has been in the family since new. I don't recall who >>>sang it, might have been billy Murray but I think it was someone else. The >>>flip side was "Wilhelm the Grocer." > > >> It was Al Jolson. > > > Mea culpa. I just looked up the CD, and the track "He'd Have to Get > Under - Get Out And Get Under" (whadda title!) is listed by Bobby Horton. > Whoever that is. Good to know it was on the Victor label, that narrows > it down when leafing thru the stacks of shellac. Thanks, Gary! > I think Billy Murray did a version as well. Best Regards, DAve Article: 329165 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: SF and Radios: Was: I Wish Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:35:11 -0600 Message-ID: <13935-43C89B9F-565@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <43C895C5.78580CDA@earthlink.net> Robert Burns and Robert Service,Poetry,non fiction.I also click on www.poetshaven.com once in a while. cuhulin Article: 329166 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Soldering Irons or Stations Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:43:37 -0600 Message-ID: <13935-43C89D99-566@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: Open up the tip on your soldering gun,Presto,Inductive soldering. cuhulin Article: 329167 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Its nice when another .... Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:49:12 -0600 Message-ID: <13935-43C89EE8-567@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <26974-43C8719E-62@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net> I have some old Philco and Philco Ford tube type radios here and some old Philco transistor radios too. cuhulin Article: 329168 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: Re: Soldering Irons or Stations Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 23:23:44 -0800 Message-ID: References: <71d7s1hgnpvam2o9n5f3k3jbuls9g1mbm1@4ax.com> <11s824v34hefoe3@corp.supernews.com> <__Kdnfwv0sWO7FnenZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@comcast.com> <11s93h7ilsevc2c@corp.supernews.com> <354hs1htn8d5oobd7qbpcu03h2ilm0frq5@4ax.com> I never have much trouble finding them - a guy at a local swap meet stocks them, and some of the local electronics stores carry the cords as well - you could try Scott at Ford Electronics, he is quite helpful (and he owns the place) now, if I could only remember the phone number - oh yeah, 714 521 8080 On Sat, 14 Jan 2006 00:49:19 -0500, Andy Cuffe wrote: >On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 00:48:37 -0400, - exray - wrote: > > >>> >>Its easier just to fix the cord. >> >>-Bill > >I wish I could find somewhere to buy soldering station cord. That >multi conductor silicone insulated cord seems to be impossible to >find. >Andy Cuffe > >acuffe@gmail.com Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com Article: 329169 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: SF and Radios: Was: I Wish Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:33:11 +0900 Message-ID: References: <20330-43C5439A-32@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> <1137010798.262484.46630@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1137067973.431762.220530@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137116395.370052.219390@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43C895C5.78580CDA@earthlink.net> "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:dqa5u0$kdp$1@reader2.panix.com... > In <43C895C5.78580CDA@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" > writes: > >>Nelson Gietz wrote: > >>> I read somewhere the best evidence of intelligent life out there is >>> that >>> they've never tried to contact us. (Probably a sig in this group.) > >> Yeah, they took one look at the internet and usenet, and decided that >>mankind is too backwards to waste their time on. ;-) Nothing but porn, >>scams and politics! > > You know that stuff you get that looks like gibberish, and you delete > it as spam? Perhaps that was an Important Message. > > Somewhere out there an alien is tearing out its antennae, yelling > "They're not LISTENING!!!" :) > "You delete my message... I delete your species!" Xrghrt of Ceteroin 7 Article: 329170 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: New parts source From: "Benjamaniac" Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2006 16:56:23 -0700 Message-ID: References: "Ken Scharf" wrote in message news:WeBwf.21118$__4.10460@bignews1.bellsouth.net... >I saw a new ad in QST for a place called > http://www.radiodaze.com > > They seem to be somewhat reasonable on tubes > and have lots of other vintage stuff. Not quite > as large an inventory as Antique Radio Supply though. > > Anybody done any business with these guys? I order from them on a regular basis...they're great. Ben Article: 329171 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Interesting find (not mine) Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 04:54:00 -0800 Message-ID: <20925-43C8F468-172@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: IIRC, those little cheapies, TRFs and superhets without an IF stage, were known generically as 'metro' sets, intended for use only in high signal areas. Obviously worthless for DXing. Bill(oc) Article: 329172 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Soldering Irons or Stations Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 06:32:01 -0700 Message-ID: <19405-43C8FD51-239@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: <13935-43C89D99-566@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> ``Open up the tip on your soldering gun,Presto,Inductive soldering. cuhulin`` That also makes a very good solder spit gun decorating a large area with tiny solder spit balls , Article: 329173 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Its nice when another .... Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 06:45:29 -0700 Message-ID: <19403-43C90079-662@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: <4KidnSDbddnPFlXeRVn-qA@comcast.com> Tom your right . be it an AA5 all the way up to a 25 tube Scott its always a fun game bringing these from barn fresh to all cleaned up . The cabinet has doors , the speaker grille is above the dial & knobs instead of the usuall speaker below . The grille cloth looks like a forest with trees . Other than several dings & chips the cabinets finish is very good . Article: 329174 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: I Wish Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 05:49:14 -0800 Message-ID: <20927-43C9015A-6@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: <1136941607.848037.148080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> >From Peter W.: >The logic against any sort of alien visit is >pretty irrefutable. Not so much that it >cannot happen, but that if it did we would >either have absolutely no clue or >absolutely not survive the experience.... > >Kinda-sorta puts little grey men (OK, >bilaterally symmetrical bipeds) with big >eyes out of the picture. Sounds reasonable unless.. there is some universal archetype, couched in the holographic nature of space itself, driving evolution to ultimitely produce the upright biped pondering its cosmic origin. Subject: See My Latest Basket Case Restorations on Binaries Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 09:07:55 -0500 Message-ID: <11si1ds9t2c6c57@corp.supernews.com> Under Arce Tombstone and Emerson DS-365, will post to Forum soon. John H. Article: 329176 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43C90838.8D137832@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: SF and Radios: Was: I Wish References: <20330-43C5439A-32@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> <1137010798.262484.46630@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1137067973.431762.220530@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137116395.370052.219390@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43C895C5.78580CDA@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:18:54 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > > You know that stuff you get that looks like gibberish, and you delete > it as spam? Perhaps that was an Important Message. > > Somewhere out there an alien is tearing out its antennae, yelling > "They're not LISTENING!!!" :) So, you're telling me that the aliens registered the hinet.net domain name and operate out of Taiwan? EG: "§õ¸Ö©É" -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 329177 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1137075127.930092.92540@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <13935-43C67630-227@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: No wonder A. Atwater Kent went out of business Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 14:54:40 GMT Someday, when things get really quiet around here, I can digitize that record and post it for y'all to hear. The version I have was definitely not Al Jolson, unless he really disguised his voice. Besides this is Victor and Al recorded, at least every one I've seen, on Brunswick. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "DaveW" wrote in message news:c%0yf.1636$Di.497@trnddc06... > Tim Mullen wrote: >> In Tim Mullen writes: >> >> >>>In "Gary Tayman" >>> writes: >> >> >>>>I don't know about Al Jolson, but there was a song called, "He'd have to >>>>get under, get out and get under, to fix up his automobile" on The >>>>Victor label. >> >> >>> That's it. >> >> >>>>It was among the records in my Victrola cabinet, before I gave it to my >>>>cousin -- this player has been in the family since new. I don't recall >>>>who sang it, might have been billy Murray but I think it was someone >>>>else. The flip side was "Wilhelm the Grocer." >> >> >>> It was Al Jolson. >> >> >> Mea culpa. I just looked up the CD, and the track "He'd Have to Get >> Under - Get Out And Get Under" (whadda title!) is listed by Bobby Horton. >> Whoever that is. Good to know it was on the Victor label, that narrows >> it down when leafing thru the stacks of shellac. Thanks, Gary! >> > > I think Billy Murray did a version as well. > > Best Regards, > > DAve Article: 329178 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Tesla Talisman 308U: improving AM reception. References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:03:39 -0500 I'm sorry, I thought it did have an internal ant. Ken Phil Nelson wrote: > I should have mentioned before that the radio does not have any internal > antenna. A random wire should work for both MW and SW. > > Have fun. > > Phil Nelson > > Article: 329179 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: See My Latest Basket Case Restorations on Binaries References: <11si1ds9t2c6c57@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:54:03 GMT Very nice Yonny. Thanks again for the RCA cabinet job. Jeff Hagstar wrote: > Under Arce Tombstone and Emerson DS-365, will post to Forum soon. > > John H. > > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329180 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: I Wish Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:14:38 -0400 Message-ID: <11si8rheudunff@corp.supernews.com> References: <1136941607.848037.148080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <20927-43C9015A-6@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> Bill Sheppard wrote: > > If there *was* anything to the Roswell incident, it's > probable that the little grey varmints were organic androids- expendable > drones sent down by the 'real' ETs who weren't about to sully themselves > in such a hostile, microbe-ridden environment. And it `is` interesting > that the Roswell incident came right on the heels of the A-bomb > development in New Mexico. > Bill(oc) I bought a grab-bag of old 1960s UFO paperbacks and after reading thru them it occured to me that the 'Roswell incident' was not mentioned at all in most of the books and only got brief reference in some of the others. I found it odd that there has been so much hubbub about the incident after the late 60s when uncovering government coverups became en vogue. Apparently people before the late 60s were quite satified with the explanations...in spite of "witnesses" etc. Hmmm...you can get two distinct implications from this. -Bill Article: 329181 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: AK E-3 Spkr paint; Successful brown wrinkle match Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 11:27:13 +0100 Message-ID: I've got an Atwater Kent E-3 speaker and the base was unquestionably painted gold from the factory. It's even gold between the base/spkr housing. It's kind of gawdy- is this a common paint job? The spkr housing is the usual dark brown wrinkle. Also I been able to perfectly match the dark brown AK wrinkle paint (the 40's, 44's, etc)- Eastwood black wrinkle spray paint #1230- it MUST BE KEPT WARM FOR THE FIRST HOUR- I USED A HEAT GUN; and when dry, an overspray with a diluted mix of semi-gloss black enamel, Rustoleum "leather brown", and paint thinnner. The overspray requires an airbrush. Comments? -Pete O. Article: 329182 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Hard to imagine somebody dropping this off at Goodwill Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 08:16:56 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1137211939.680606.194810@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> AuroraOldRadios wrote: > Philco 70 > http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=1744099 > An auction that requires Flash in order to view.....What a bunch of BS. The people that donated this probably aren't radio people, and had an bunch of estate items they had to unload really fast to sell grandma's house. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 329183 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: SF and Radios: Was: I Wish Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:36:11 -0600 Message-ID: <19272-43C9287B-585@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: Watch Out! Brenda Ann is on the Warpath.Haw Haw Haw. cuhulin Article: 329184 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I Wish Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:42:55 -0600 Message-ID: <19272-43C92A0F-591@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <20927-43C9015A-6@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> ok,here's me take on that space aliens thangy.The might not look just like us so-called human beans.But,if they have the technology to build things,, they will have two eyes for stereoscopic vision,at least five digits on their mitts (hands) bipedal,noses to breath Air,mouths so they can eat food,two ears,they might not look just like us,,, but they would be similar to us. cuhulin Article: 329185 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I Wish Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:47:04 -0600 Message-ID: <19272-43C92B08-593@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <20927-43C9015A-6@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> Roswell,was a big spy balloon,spying on the Rooskies Atomic Bomb preparations.The spy balloon crashed near Roswell,New Mexico.Virginia,no such thangys as space aliens from outer space visiting Planet Earth.Go back and have your gingerbread cake now. cuhulin Article: 329186 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Soldering Irons or Stations Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:59:07 -0600 Message-ID: <19273-43C92DDB-139@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <43C6EA7E.AC5B8FB9@earthlink.net> Popular Science magazine used to run some stories every month about a tv repairman guy in the New York City area.Them stories were always very true and always humorous stories. cuhulin Article: 329187 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Soldering Irons or Stations Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 11:04:49 -0600 Message-ID: <19273-43C92F31-140@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <1137125209.751272.185430@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I own an old Rolls Royce (brand name) beard shaver thangy. cuhulin Article: 329188 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Soldering Irons or Stations Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 11:02:13 -0600 Message-ID: <19272-43C92E95-596@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: Just get a big old nail and heat it up with a torch.TIP: stick a wooden handle on that big old nail first. cuhulin Article: 329189 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: I Wish References: <1137067973.431762.220530@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <16154-43C680CB-181@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> <1137084578.581221.181540@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <4Wvxf.58962$Lb1.29190@bignews3.bellsouth.net> <1137152879.293740.45320@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <2qayf.634$Ou1.125@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 17:21:02 GMT A couple of the more interesting ones I read some time back... "Becoming alien" about a kid that takes off with an alien rather than stay home and cook meth for his older brother. One of his first observations on tending to the alien that survived the crash landing, "My God, they don't have assholes!" The other one, "Quozal", was about a colony ship of aliens that landed on Earth and tried to figure out human civilization and how to fit in. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329190 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sal Brisindi Subject: For Sale 1954 RCA TV $100.00 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:00:25 -0500 I just purchased this TV with the hopes of restoring it but the cabinet is large and won't fit through my basement door. I am located in Freehold NJ if your interested. Photos at http://www.tuberadios.com/rcatv Thanks, Sal Brisindi Article: 329191 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I Wish Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:05:36 -0600 Message-ID: <19273-43C93D70-144@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <1137259016.815861.209490@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Human Beans are Human Beans,,, no matter what Planet are on.They wouldn't be much different than us Human Beans. They would all be pink inside and bleed red,just like us Human Beans. cuhulin Article: 329192 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: AK E-3 Spkr paint; Successful brown wrinkle match Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 11:59:58 -0600 Message-ID: <19275-43C93C1E-7@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: I am too drunk right now,,, but when I get undrunk,, I will check out that big round heavy metal case speaker sitting on one of the dressers in my front bedroom/junkroom (the self same room I put my little doggy in there when I go out shopping) I also have an old octagon shaped Zenith radio speaker (sitting on top amid lots of other junk) on top of my old Zenith 1965 floor model tv set in that room.The Zenith speakers octagon grill cloth has like a vase with flowers on the grill cloth and I also own a really weird looking Zenith antenna.Bunches or other old weirdy radios and radio related thangys too.eBay will Never see any of me posessions. cuhulin Article: 329193 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I Wish Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:08:48 -0600 Message-ID: <19272-43C93E30-615@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <2qayf.634$Ou1.125@tornado.socal.rr.com> I like that movie,Flight of the Navigator and that other movie,(I dont remember the title of that movie) but that space alien loves fast cars and fast wimmins and loud boom box music. cuhulin Article: 329194 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I Wish Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 12:02:31 -0600 Message-ID: <19272-43C93CB7-612@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <1137259016.815861.209490@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> I Wish,,, I Wish I was back in the olden days and movie actress,Susan Hayward was in love with me. cuhulin Article: 329195 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <4KidnSDbddnPFlXeRVn-qA@comcast.com> <19403-43C90079-662@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Its nice when another .... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 13:32:43 -0500 "Ken G." wrote in message news:19403-43C90079-662@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net... > Tom your right . be it an AA5 all the way up to a 25 tube Scott its > always a fun game bringing these from barn fresh to all cleaned up . > > The cabinet has doors , the speaker grille is above the dial & knobs > instead of the usuall speaker below . The grille cloth looks like a > forest with trees . Other than several dings & chips the cabinets finish > is very good . > After doing 5,000 sets I would have thought the magic would have worn off by now! Article: 329196 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: I Wish Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:46:35 -0800 Message-ID: <8004-43C9470B-289@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> References: <1137259016.815861.209490@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> >From Peter W.: >ALIEN. ALIEN. Drop your preconceived >notions of what they *must* be. >Whatever they are whereever they are it >_WILL_ be a surprise. Remember we're just playin' for a moment with a hypothetical- that space, far from being 'void' and 'nothingness', is most profoundly 'Something'- something tantamount to the 'pneuma' of our age. As such, it is a vast and incredibly rich information field. It is universally holographic and pregnant with archetypes of all biological lifeforms, driving DNA synthesis to the ultimate expression of itself: an upright biped endowed with self-awareness and self-will. Y'see, _we_ are its ultimate "organs of sentience" - enabling it to consciously "see itself". Thus space, whatever it is, has the very attributes of 'God', playing out similar roles on habitable planets throughout the universe, as an upright biped pondering its cosmic origins. OTOH, if space is indeed pure nothingness and void, then all bets are off regarding what's "out there" and may one day visit us. Bill(oc) Article: 329197 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: AK E-3 Spkr paint; Successful brown wrinkle match Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 10:54:52 -0800 Message-ID: <8005-43C948FC-48@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> References: <19275-43C93C1E-7@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> >From Mr.cuhulin: >I am too drunk right now,,, but when I >get undrunk,,.. Hey dude. Don't advertize it. Webtv'ers already have a bad enuff reputation as it is, as the 'trailer trash' of the internet. :-) Bill(oc) Article: 329198 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: For Sale 1954 RCA TV $100.00 References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:44:45 GMT Sal Brisindi wrote: > Photos at http://www.tuberadios.com/rcatv How much for the nixie clock? ;-) Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329199 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" Subject: Nixie tube multimeter Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:14:28 GMT A neat little B&K model 181 digital multimeter followed me home this morning. It uses 3 nixie tubes for the display. Does anyone know when this was made? I'm guessing the early 70s maybe late 60s. Any chance anyone might have a manual on it? I did a google search and didn't find anything. It needs some new meter leads but other than that it seems to work, tubes light up nice. 73, Ron Article: 329200 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: For Sale 1954 RCA TV $100.00 References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 15:39:10 -0500 Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > Sal Brisindi wrote: > >> Photos at http://www.tuberadios.com/rcatv > > > How much for the nixie clock? ;-) > > Jeff > > Nixie Clock.... heck, thats a Numitron clock! I built it a little over 2 years ago. I just completed another numitron clock, you can see it at http://www.tuberadios.com/numitron4 or my other clocks at http://www.tuberadios.com and just clock on the links. Thanks, Sal Article: 329201 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "wa2mze(spamless)" <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: FS: NOS 1L6 Tubes References: <1137155764.085367.172310@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137178788.160771.112100@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <3meyf.40684$0y2.4809@bignews2.bellsouth.net> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 16:52:38 -0500 Peter Wieck wrote: > It must be noted that Sylvania was the _only_ actual manufacturer of > this tube. All other "Names" rebranded Sylvania tubes for resale. This > tube was commissioned by Zenith (well... 'offered' by Sylvania) in 1949 > as a repackaged 1LA6 to fit their miniature-tube line of T/Os. Zenith's > original plan was to install a locktal socket into this line... just > look at the chassis punch-out in the G500 and early H500s. Sylvania > obligingly repackaged the tube and a captive-market all at once.... as > the 1L6 was quickly adopted by almost every other portable SW radio > maker over the next 15 years or so. > > It is possible to adapt a 1LA6 or 1LC6 as a direct replacement. But the > adaptor will not fit into all locations, nor will alignment remain > unaffected in all cases. > > As Carroll stated, the life-span of these tubes, excepting abuse, is > indefinite. Assuming one's existing stable of radios requiring such > tubes is in decent condition and has intact tubes, and numbers less > than say.... 20, 5 additional tubes should have the entire stable > giving pleasure to the great-grands... assuming there is something to > receive by then. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Reducing the size of the elements of the 1LA6 to fit inside a 7 pin envelope yet retaining the same parameters was an amazing bit of engineering. Yet this has been done for many tubes... 50C5=50L6, 12BE6=12SA7, 12AV6=12SQ7, 12BA6=12SK7, 6BQ5=6F6, 6AQ5=6V6, 6CL6=6AG7 6AR5=6K6, 6AK6=6G6G etc..... Article: 329202 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <1137250541.984519.208080@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9Zidnd_GuKosiVTeRVn-jA@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Tesla Talisman 308U: improving AM reception. Message-ID: <_Keyf.2535$Hd4.1269@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:16:26 GMT I have a Philips based radio of this era and I've found that placing a very good ground in addition to some sort of antenna helps out A LOT! Omer "Buzzygirl" wrote in message news:9Zidnd_GuKosiVTeRVn-jA@comcast.com... > > "Terry S" > >> The Tesla 4 tube sets like these are fairly deaf without an antenna, >> but any piece of wire will work. I get the full broadcast band with >> just a 4' length in my basement workshop. And a few shortwave stations, >> too. > > One of our weekend projects is to find some AM loop plans online and build > something he can put out onto his balcony. The long wire does pull in > shortwave stations, but few AM broadcast band stations seem to come in. I > think we'll experiment by maybe moving the radio to different areas of his > place to see if it receives better. > > Thanks for the tips. > > Jackie > > Article: 329203 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: AK E-3 Spkr paint; Successful brown wrinkle match Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:33:09 +0100 Message-ID: References: <19275-43C93C1E-7@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> but when I get undrunk,, I will check out **Isn't it awful early in the day? Don't go to nuts over this and injure yourself. I now see a couple of Ebay posts with this speaker and the base looks gold under the dirt. It's an easy shade to match so I guess I'll go with the original gawdiness. Tnx, Pete Article: 329204 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: SF and Radios: Was: I Wish Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:34:15 +0100 Message-ID: References: <19272-43C9287B-585@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Xrghrt of Ceteroin 7 (AKA Brenda Ann) wrote: > > "You delete my message... I delete your species!" > > > > Xrghrt of Ceteroin 7 cuhulin wrote > Watch Out! Brenda Ann is on the Warpath.Haw Haw Haw. > cuhulin I would recommend her to read George Mikes "How to be an Alien" http://lib.ru/ANEKDOTY/mikes1.txt because it is unpolite to delete species! Georg of Honeymoon X Article: 329205 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" Subject: 6Q7 a crappy tube? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:46:29 GMT I just replaced another noisy 6Q7... and when going though my baggie of them found many marked intermittant, noisy, pops etc... Where they a problem in general?? Keith Article: 329206 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 6Q7 a crappy tube? Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:50:15 -0400 Message-ID: <11sj3hnknop8230@corp.supernews.com> References: Keith Park wrote: > I just replaced another noisy 6Q7... and when going though my baggie of them > found many marked > intermittant, noisy, pops etc... > > Where they a problem in general?? > > Keith > > Resolder the top cap. Thats a high impedance connection in most sets and very picky about a perfect connection. Apart from that...yeah, they do tend to run bad for much the same reason. -Bill Article: 329207 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: FS: NOS 1L6 Tubes References: <1137155764.085367.172310@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137178788.160771.112100@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <3meyf.40684$0y2.4809@bignews2.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:04:32 GMT If you look at the interelectrode capacities between 1L6 and 1LA6 you will see there are some differences, they are not identical. wa2mze(spamless) wrote: > Peter Wieck wrote: > >>It must be noted that Sylvania was the _only_ actual manufacturer of >>this tube. All other "Names" rebranded Sylvania tubes for resale. This >>tube was commissioned by Zenith (well... 'offered' by Sylvania) in 1949 >>as a repackaged 1LA6 to fit their miniature-tube line of T/Os. Zenith's >>original plan was to install a locktal socket into this line... just >>look at the chassis punch-out in the G500 and early H500s. Sylvania >>obligingly repackaged the tube and a captive-market all at once.... as >>the 1L6 was quickly adopted by almost every other portable SW radio >>maker over the next 15 years or so. >> >>It is possible to adapt a 1LA6 or 1LC6 as a direct replacement. But the >>adaptor will not fit into all locations, nor will alignment remain >>unaffected in all cases. >> >>As Carroll stated, the life-span of these tubes, excepting abuse, is >>indefinite. Assuming one's existing stable of radios requiring such >>tubes is in decent condition and has intact tubes, and numbers less >>than say.... 20, 5 additional tubes should have the entire stable >>giving pleasure to the great-grands... assuming there is something to >>receive by then. >> >>Peter Wieck >>Wyncote, PA >> > > Reducing the size of the elements of the 1LA6 to fit inside a 7 pin > envelope yet retaining the same parameters was an amazing bit of engineering. > Yet this has been done for many tubes... > 50C5=50L6, 12BE6=12SA7, 12AV6=12SQ7, 12BA6=12SK7, 6BQ5=6F6, 6AQ5=6V6, 6CL6=6AG7 > 6AR5=6K6, 6AK6=6G6G etc..... Article: 329208 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: 6Q7 a crappy tube? References: <11sj3hnknop8230@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <6ngyf.64118$XJ5.47863@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:07:30 GMT Yes, as Bill states any tube with a top cap can have this problem. Always resolder this connection with fresh solder before tossing the tube. - exray - wrote: > Keith Park wrote: > >> I just replaced another noisy 6Q7... and when going though my baggie >> of them found many marked >> intermittant, noisy, pops etc... >> >> Where they a problem in general?? >> >> Keith >> >> > Resolder the top cap. Thats a high impedance connection in most sets > and very picky about a perfect connection. > Apart from that...yeah, they do tend to run bad for much the same reason. > > -Bill Article: 329209 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1137284956.861140.312250@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Weston/Edison meter? Message-ID: <47hyf.189$bF.37@dukeread07> Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:58:27 -0500 "nesesu" wrote in message news:1137284956.861140.312250@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > It is clearly a cell tester, but what kind of cell? The voltage scale > seems too low for lead-acid which run from about 2.2V down to about > 1.5V. Since it is marked "Edison" and the 'prods' are rather unusual, I > wonder if it is for an Edison cell as used by the railroads for > signalling around the turn of the 19th-20th century or for the strange > secondary cells used in electric cars of about the same period. The > shunt is not very large so I would opt for the former. Thus we know > what it is used for, but not what it is used on. > > Neil S. > Exactly what I thought: Edison Cells. pete Article: 329210 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <11si1ds9t2c6c57@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: See My Latest Basket Case Restorations on Binaries Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:11:34 -0600 Message-ID: <43c99fcd$0$3022$6d36acad@roc.nntpserver.com> Oohies. Very nice! You get a good sheen. Are you still using that Critter to finish? paul "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11si1ds9t2c6c57@corp.supernews.com... > Under Arce Tombstone and Emerson DS-365, will post to Forum soon. > > John H. > Article: 329211 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: Help, Does anybody know anything about this Zenith radio? References: <1137135421.852815.184560@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137170312.970156.289250@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 19:00:23 -0700 I have a similar situation with a Zenith portable, clearly labelled "Model X404V". It is very similar to the T404V (the final letter representa case color), for which I have a Sams. Never figured out what the leading "X" is all about, but I have concluded that it may be an export model as well. Or maybe "X" means "experimental"? Bill Jeffrey ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Scott W. Harvey wrote: > I have never seen this particular radio in the flesh. However, I am at > least 99% sure it is a genuine and completely original Zenith factory > product. I have a different Zenith model that has EXACTLY the same band > coverage as this one, and the dial markings are in EXACTLY the same font > as this one! > > > This eBay item is one of Zenith's "export" models, intended for sale in > places like Europe where shortwave capability was a must in order to > sell the set. They didn't produce a lot of these, so they used existing > production cabinets intended for domestic non-shortwave tabletops to > save on tooling costs. That's why you see the mysterious "FM 100" > marking when there's no FM band on this set. (My set uses a cabinet that > is identical to the domestic H615 tabletop, which I post a picture of in > the binaries when I am able). > > Both our sets appear to share a number of things in common: > > > 1. A model number ending in a letter, most likely the letter "T" (mine > is model H517T).....You say yours also ends in T. > > > 2. Some way to set the operating voltage to 220 volts. (My set uses a > jumpered socket into which a ballast resistor can be plugged in to drop > the voltage). I see what appears to be a switch or jumper on the power > transformer of the chassis photo. Does that set the voltage? > > > 3. The schematic is virtually unobtainable, and the model number does > not show up in any official Zenith model number listing (I've been > searching for a schematic for my set for five years with no joy). > > > Sure wish I'd seen this one.....I would have bid on it in a heartbeat. > It looks practically mint and would complement my other set rather well. > I wonder how many different models they made like this? > > > -Scott Article: 329212 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: AK E-3 Spkr paint; Successful brown wrinkle match Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:40:47 -0600 Message-ID: <20330-43C9B62F-772@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: Geez,some computer users (I also own a Velocity Micro ProMagix computer that I bought for $1,290 brand new three years ago from www.velocitymicro.com and a wireless Gyration www.gyration.com mini keyboard (it's even smaller than my little webtv wireless keyboard) and mouse because I like mini size keyboards I can hold in my left hand and one finger hunt and peck/type on with the index finger of my right hand and a 22 inch screen Multisync computer monitor I bought from tigerdirect.com and a couple of days ago at the Goodwill store,I bought a Logitech wireless model Y-RJ20 RT7R04 V: 5XTW keyboard,Heck,only five dollars,why not?) have a drink once in a while too,ya know? I am sixty four years young,I reckon I can have me brew once in a while.Anyway,I sobered up enough to take a look at my old Atwater Kent speaker that is sitting on top of some dresser drawers in my front bedroom/junk room.I bought the speaker for forty five dollars about ten years ago at the Flowers Flea Market.It is a heavy speaker too.It is a round metal case speaker and it measures about twelve and a half inches diameter on the front of the speaker.Model number of the speaker is Type F-4 Radio Speaker.Serial number of the speaker is 2115604.The speaker has six round holes on the rear of the speaker,they measure about two and a half inches diameter.The metal grill of the speaker is some narrow horizontal bars and vertical bars with diagonal bars.The speaker is mounted on a sort of ornate looking base/pedestal.There is grill cloth on the front and rear of the speaker. cuhulin Article: 329213 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Remember all those tubes ?? Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 20:35:14 -0700 Message-ID: Remember all those tubes I ended up with a while back ?? The ones I talked about on here ?? Well...I FINALLY got started sorting them all out. What I'll do is that as I figure out which ones I've got an over abundance of...I'll post it here. Right now it looks like I've got more 5U4's than I'll be able to use in my lifetime. Anybody need any ?? I'd much rather trade than just sell them...more fun that way. If you have any trading material, and you need a few 5U4's..let me know. Ben Article: 329214 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stop the pointless bickering please" References: <1137291757.025821.53330@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137301183.146122.37270@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Technics Turntable question Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:42:18 -0700 Message-ID: <43c9e125$0$8278$6d56accd@news.srvinet.com> No, he could probably gum up rec.antiques.radio+-.phono with it, but you are right about him mentioning Rega etc. Fro those of you who gripe at Graham, please read this and know he does have a small clue. I have about 60,000 more groups in the browser now! WHY? No matter... "graham" wrote in message news:E42dnTYQpcZwRFTeRVn-iA@comcast.com... > > "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message > news:1137301183.146122.37270@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > Why would you say that, Graham? I own 3 TTs and I buy and sell them all > > the time. Some of the other groups might try to persuade him to spend a > > lot more than he needs to. This group is radio and phono, how is he to > > know that means old cranks? > > > ... read what he said in his post about Project & Rega turntables, these > are entry level high-end units ... Dual & Technics are a step below the > ones above ... mid-fi at best ... which might be good enough for him > or you and all the others here ... but there is a whole other world out there > in turntables, phono stages, cartridges, record cleaning machines and even > record flatting machines ... but, do we really want to go there in this group ... > > Article: 329215 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stop the pointless bickering please" References: <1137291757.025821.53330@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137301183.146122.37270@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Technics Turntable question Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:47:06 -0700 Message-ID: <43c9e241$0$8298$6d56accd@news.srvinet.com> http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=grahamiba good night, Mrs. Calabash Article: 329216 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1137075127.930092.92540@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <13935-43C67630-227@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: No wonder A. Atwater Kent went out of business Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:28:11 GMT It wouldn't be "The Little Old Ford Rambled Right Along", would it? That was a Murray recording I used to have. Ray "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:YWXxf.4746$WY5.2712@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >I don't know about Al Jolson, but there was a song called, "He'd have to >get under, get out and get under, to fix up his automobile" on The Victor >label. It was among the records in my Victrola cabinet, before I gave it to >my cousin -- this player has been in the family since new. I don't recall >who sang it, might have been billy Murray but I think it was someone else. >The flip side was "Wilhelm the Grocer." > > I no longer have the record, but before giving it away I taped all of > them -- should be able to find it without too much hassle. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > "Tim Mullen" wrote in message > news:dq70qu$mb0$1@reader2.panix.com... >> In "Gary Tayman" >> writes: >> >>>It was not the world's best car back then. It was an affordable car. >>>People laughed at it, there were jokes written and songs sung about it, >>>and >>>of course many people still opted for the better, more expensive cars. >>>So >>>indeed, aftermarket parts were made for these cars to make them better. >>>It's a classic, it's a car that essentially put America on the road, but >>>it >>>was not the best technology, even for its time. >> >> All this talk about cars reminds me. The Ken Burns documentary >> "Horatio's Drive" was on PBS again late Tuesday night here in NYC. >> If you haven't seen this, check it out. The DVD's available from >> pbs.org or Amazon. It's about the very first transcontinental auto >> trip, back in 1903. Took sixty-two days. >> >> What made me think about it was Gary's mention of songs. There's >> a great Al Jolson tune in the film about having to climb under the >> @#$%^&/! automobile at the most inopportune moments. I'd love to >> find a 78 of that. >> >> -- >> Tim Mullen >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. >> ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- > > Article: 329217 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43ca415f$0$11077$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Tesla Talisman 308U: improving AM reception. References: Date: 15 Jan 2006 12:34:39 GMT Buzzygirl wrote: > He's trying to find an antenna for better AM reception. I don't have a > schematic for this radio, but I would think there must be some sort of > ferrite bar antenna inside. I have found online several AM-loop antenna In a recent thread about this radio, it is mentioned there is no antenna inside at all. Just connect a piece of wire to the antenna input and you should see some improvements. - Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 329218 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Robinson" References: <1136766528.931620.156300@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1136845996.596266.269670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1136855926.080318.318380@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ethics of radio to guitar amp conversion Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:14:22 GMT Hi, > > I've also read that tube amp distortion tends to consist of even > harmonics, while distortion from bipolar transistors tends to be odd > harmonics. Who cares? Well, from a musical standpoint, octaves above a > note are the even harmonics. Even harmonics, tend to reenforce the > fundamental frequency in a musically pleasing way. Odd harmonics, as > produced by transistors, are not musically related to the fundamental, > and tend to sound harsh when mixed with the root note. I've read that as well, but I don't think its very true. The circuit topology has more to do with distortion components. Non-symetrical distortion causes primarily even order harmonics, while symetrical distortion causes odd order products. This is seen in the difference between single ended class A vs. push-pull stages. The softness of clipping between tube and SS designs changes how smoothly you transition >from clean to distorted, but even this can be dependent on topology. Mark Article: 329219 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Remember all those tubes ?? Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 06:58:48 -0800 Message-ID: <24666-43CA6328-428@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: <1137301302.228903.230400@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> >I'd keep the 5U4Gs for old radios. Just curious, but in what instance would one want to use a 5U4 in an old radio, considering the filament current is considerably higher than say, a 5Y3? With power trannys marginally rated as it is, it seems a kinda uncool idea. Bill(oc) Article: 329220 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: 6Q7 a crappy tube? Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 08:16:15 -0700 Message-ID: <27717-43CA673F-904@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: <1137288618.306277.161650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> My trouble tubes for noise are 6A8 , 6A7 , 6K7 , 75 , 50Z7 along with others i cant remember now . This is why i dont order used tubes from tube vendors . The noise does not show up on tube testers that i know of Some used tubes go funny after an hour in a radio . Article: 329221 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Northe Osbrink Subject: Re: Remember all those tubes ?? References: <1137301302.228903.230400@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <24666-43CA6328-428@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <6_tyf.2704$Hd4.1363@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 15:36:34 GMT Bill Sheppard wrote: >>I'd keep the 5U4Gs for old radios. > > > Just curious, but in what instance would one want to use a 5U4 in an old > radio, considering the filament current is considerably higher than say, > a 5Y3? With power trannys marginally rated as it is, it seems a kinda > uncool idea. > Bill(oc) > I think that 5U4s were common in communications receivers. If my memory serves, they were used in the Hallicrafters S20R, S40 and Hammarlund HQ-129X, for example. Northe N6KO Article: 329222 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: AK E-3 Spkr paint; Successful brown wrinkle match References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:00:41 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > As for my experience with wrinkle paint -- I paint the object, then add a > second coat after 5-10 minutes, then possibly a third coat. After another > 15-20 minutes I apply a hair dryer. At first it appears nothing is > happening, but then it begins to wrinkle, and before long the wrinkle covers > the entire job. When dry the finish looks great! If it's a warm day I just > set the pieces out in the sun. I use the kitchen oven. I put on two moderately heavy coats about 5 minutes apart then set it in the oven at the lowest setting and come back and hour or two later. (Typically when I remember or my wife complains.) Nice uniform tight wrinkle pattern every time. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329223 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1137291757.025821.53330@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137301183.146122.37270@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <43c9e125$0$8278$6d56accd@news.srvinet.com> Subject: Re: Technics Turntable question Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:02:22 GMT "Stop the pointless bickering please" wrote in message news:43c9e125$0$8278$6d56accd@news.srvinet.com... > > No, he could probably gum up rec.antiques.radio+-.phono with it, but you are > right about him mentioning Rega etc. > > Fro those of you who gripe at Graham, please read this and know he does have > a small clue. > > I have about 60,000 more groups in the browser now! WHY? No matter... Another Dinius morph. Go away! jim menning Article: 329224 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: AK E-3 Spkr paint; Successful brown wrinkle match Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:41:58 +0100 Message-ID: <38263f1e0b230b924a400e9ce9b77ce8@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: I use the kitchen oven. Jeff- I thought of that but slso of the chance of minor explosion as the paint gives off fumes in a gas oven. With no warm sun in NJ at this time of year, I'll stick to the hair dryer too. I should note that the dk brown overspray doesn't detract from the wrinkle- just changes the color.- Pete Article: 329225 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: AK E-3 Spkr paint; Successful brown wrinkle match Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 12:50:16 +0100 Message-ID: <112bf35a37868bda3c14bfc6ddee6cad@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: If you're able to mix up paint and get a perfect match, wonderful! Howevera good alternative might be to check with an automotive paint store. ***Been there, done that- and it came out horrible. The local paint matching computer must have been sick those days. Now I have a quart of ugly brownish paint that is good for basement floor only. I found that mixing my own enamel from little half pint cans is quick, easy, and accurate. Tnx for comments. -Pete Article: 329226 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1137342691.394484.124830@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: My old guitar Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 18:01:14 GMT tbccc3 wrote in message news:1137342691.394484.124830@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Hi, I have an older model guitar,It has a Sear's Roebuck & Company > sticker/tag just inside the hole opening,It is made of a darker wood,It > has three white dots on the frets,and about 18 frets,sloted on the > end.Anyone have or seen a guitar like this I would like help in > identifying it.Thanks > You just identified it, it's a guitar sold by Sear's Roebuck, along with work pants, truck tires, washing machines and socket wrenches. What does it have to do with antique radios & phonos like the name of this group says? Ron Article: 329227 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Soldering Irons or Stations Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:32:54 -0600 Message-ID: <5543-43CAA366-1124@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: Last week,I received a Ramsey Kits snail mail catalog. www.ramseykits.com They sell some nice soldering stations. cuhulin Article: 329228 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43CAA9C5.1070200@socal.rr.com> From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: OT: VHF antenna thingy-JEFF? References: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:00:19 GMT Bruce Mercer wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5854105001&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Stores > > Above is the current listing. How many do you need? I'm a Tram-Browing dealer. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329229 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: JVC & LEAR JET serviced home component 8track decks-Ebay References: <1137356641.440124.88170@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1137356768.287304.223930@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <0iyyf.758$Ou1.336@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:30:52 GMT So, could somebody explain to me why.... When somebody posts an ON TOPIC eBay link complete with FA: in the subject header certain individuals go completely batcrap. Meanwhile, everyone just ignores this clown or says that "They've already got him kill filed." Jeff Peter Wieck wrote: > New alias (for 66fourdoor). Same crap. -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329230 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <11sj3hnknop8230@corp.supernews.com> <6ngyf.64118$XJ5.47863@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Subject: Re: 6Q7 a crappy tube? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 20:40:18 GMT Thanks all, I resoldered the pins but not the cap. Ill try that and maybe rejuving the Cathode. Keith "Lou deGonzague" wrote in message news:6ngyf.64118$XJ5.47863@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Yes, as Bill states any tube with a top cap can have this problem. Always > resolder this connection with fresh solder before tossing the tube. > > - exray - wrote: >> Keith Park wrote: >> >>> I just replaced another noisy 6Q7... and when going though my baggie of >>> them found many marked >>> intermittant, noisy, pops etc... >>> >>> Where they a problem in general?? >>> >>> Keith >>> >>> >> Resolder the top cap. Thats a high impedance connection in most sets and >> very picky about a perfect connection. >> Apart from that...yeah, they do tend to run bad for much the same reason. >> >> -Bill Article: 329231 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: JVC & LEAR JET serviced home component 8track decks-Ebay Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 17:09:33 -0400 Message-ID: <11slegdgeq3k175@corp.supernews.com> References: <1137356641.440124.88170@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1137357985.840715.325400@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> 66fourdoor wrote: > Since when is 1146 positive Ebay feedbacks and over $1000 a month is > sales, a "loser" ?? Oh wow, a loser with good feedback. Isn't that special? -ex Article: 329232 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "t.hoehler" References: <1136766528.931620.156300@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1136845996.596266.269670@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1136855926.080318.318380@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: ethics of radio to guitar amp conversion Message-ID: <34zyf.707814$_o.588089@attbi_s71> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:24:15 GMT "Mark Robinson" wrote in message news:OUryf.8465$US3.8230@trnddc04... > Hi, > >> >> I've also read that tube amp distortion tends to consist of even >> harmonics, while distortion from bipolar transistors tends to be odd >> harmonics. Who cares? Well, from a musical standpoint, octaves above a >> note are the even harmonics. Even harmonics, tend to reenforce the >> fundamental frequency in a musically pleasing way. Odd harmonics, as >> produced by transistors, are not musically related to the fundamental, >> and tend to sound harsh when mixed with the root note. > > I've read that as well, but I don't think its very true. The circuit > topology has more to do with distortion components. Non-symetrical > distortion causes primarily even order harmonics, while symetrical > distortion causes odd order products. This is seen in the difference > between single ended class A vs. push-pull stages. The softness of > clipping between tube and SS designs changes how smoothly you transition > from clean to distorted, but even this can be dependent on topology. > > Mark > I agree with the distortion issue, but in the same breath, the 'fools will go on and on about tube amplifiers' accuracy, and being true to the music! Quite the opposite is really true. I really like the sound of tubed amplification, but it is a personal, learned choice from growing up in the fifties. I also like the surface noise of 78 rpm records. When you remove that, some of the life seems to go out of the recording. Just a few thoughts . . . Regards, Tom > Article: 329233 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1137356641.440124.88170@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1137357985.840715.325400@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11slegdgeq3k175@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: JVC & LEAR JET serviced home component 8track decks-Ebay Message-ID: <0azyf.1989$bF.1750@dukeread07> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:30:22 -0500 ... > 66fourdoor wrote: > > > Since when is 1146 positive Ebay feedbacks and over $1000 a month is > > sales, a "loser" ?? Off topic, multiple aliases, spamming newsgroups... Loser. Article: 329234 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "CLFE" References: Subject: Re: VHF antenna thingy-JEFF? Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 16:46:37 -0500 Message-ID: <43cac2bb$0$8297$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Give me a yell, I think I can help you out. E-mail to Info@clfurent.com "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:S4ednYV32tlIP1fenZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@sigecom.net... > My brother, who is police chief in a city north of here has asked me to > help him find the following: Ebay item #5852176095. The item is closed but > he has others in his "store". He did not respond to my brother's inquiries > about buying 40 of these items. Any help or scource for these would be > appreciated. He's looking for the one with a straight shaft and a 5/16" > ball on the end. I didn't have a clue who else to ask or where else to > look. > Thanks, > Bruce > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5854105001&ssPageName=MERCOSI_VI_ROSI_PR4_PCN_BIX_Stores > > Above is the current listing. > Article: 329235 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ka Nai`a Subject: Re: Hallicrafters S-38A Problems - Need Help References: <5545-43C72E8F-31@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> <36ednb57680UqFXeRVn-gA@comcast.com> Message-ID: <98Ayf.1400$H71.1095@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 22:36:53 GMT Thanks for these links as well. I will probably order the caps from Bill Turner. I replaced the cord on my unit with a polarized plug from a black extension cord. The hum came from a cold solder joint that was knocked loose while I was cleaning it up. So I resoldered that and a few other questionable ones and it is working again, but still not using it. I am going to try the recap soon so hopefully by the end of january I will have that part finished then I need to work on the looks of it. I posted a pic of mine to a photo contest site just to see if it would win. *LOL* But if you want to see kind of the condition its in here is the link. http://community.wirelessgalaxy.com/photocontest/view_picture.asp?id=243 Someone e-mailed me saying that he might have the kobs I need for it. gb wrote: > Condenser ---> Just your normal capacitor. > I learned both terms ... since usage was changing in books when I started in > 1960s. > Cycles and Hertz was another change about at that same time! > > ABC's of Capacitors by Just Radios > http://www.justradios.com/captips.html > > Replacing Capacitors in Old Radios - Phillip Nelson > http://antiqueradio.org/recap.htm > > Introduction to capacitors (2006 version) > http://my.execpc.com/~endlr/index.html > > Strategies to Repair or Replace Old Electrolytic Capacitors > http://www.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/~reese/electrolytics/ > > IF you want a reproduction of the original S-38 multi-section capacitor, > I like Bill Turner's offering > (There are also other restorers who also provide similar products) > http://www.dialcover.com/caps.html > > gb > > Article: 329338 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter den Boer" Subject: Telefunken EVE173 on ebay 1918 tube Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:04:29 +0100 Message-ID: <43cca50e$0$12849$9a622dc7@news.kpnplanet.nl> Thanks Article: 329339 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: FA: Telefunken EVE173 on ebay 1918 tube References: <43cca50e$0$12849$9a622dc7@news.kpnplanet.nl> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:40:00 GMT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6597422499 Peter den Boer wrote: > Thanks > > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329340 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1137356641.440124.88170@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1137357985.840715.325400@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7yCyf.354070$ki.31190@pd7tw2no> <43cb1def$0$8289$6d56accd@news.srvinet.com> <1137431946.232080.148450@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <43cc4516$0$8287$6d56accd@news.srvinet.com> <43CC615A.B544BCCB@earthlink.net> <43cc6ea4$0$8273$6d56accd@news.srvinet.com> <43CC7376.E8D6C674@earthlink.net> <43CC92C8.D56AFD4C@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: JVC & LEAR JET serviced home component 8track decks-Ebay Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 01:48:28 -0700 Message-ID: <43ccafc1$0$8291$6d56accd@news.srvinet.com> I answered your question but I don't think you know what you were asking. Elves make better lawn ornaments and don't need food. Everyone here has self-service "buttons", nobody has to activate anything. I'm hooking up a JVC CD-4 and have 3 cassette decks of theirs to repair and I once owned a Lear Jet stereo 8-track portable. It was my mistake to take it apart, as I never did get it back together although it didn't work before I did. I'd like an older JVC EQ also but I never liked the beltdrive TT I had. I'd never buy from Boris Badanov here and I don't require Nell and Dudley's horse to save the day. Covers the topic of his auction and nogoodniks completely. NEXT... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:43CC92C8.D56AFD4C@earthlink.net... > Buck Frobisher wrote: > > > > Michael, you're feeding the trolls again. He really knows how to push your > > buttons, too. > > I just wanted to see if he would actually answer the questions put > before him. he didn't, so he won't hear anything else from me. Anyone > who isn't honest enough to answer a direct question is a waste of time. > > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 329341 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carroll Senn Subject: Re: Zenith TO parts list help Message-ID: References: <1137453670.375457.212590@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:14:23 GMT Check out this website Bob. Should have what you are seeking. http://www.transoceanic.nostalgiaair.org/ On 16 Jan 2006 15:21:10 -0800, "Bob in Vt" wrote: >Can anyone point me to a parts list for my Transoceanics, H500 and >G500. >I am preparing to re-cap them and need to know what values I will need. >Or should I take this info off the caps I remove, which may or may not >be legible....... >or should I get the values off the schematic which may also be tedious >and difficult. >Does a parts list even exist? >Thanks, Bob.........in Vermont Carroll Senn Columbia, SC TO nut and general putz Article: 329342 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <1137460507.218841.295000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Modern batteries in Standard Micronic Rubys Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:17:20 -0500 Message-ID: <43ccee7d$0$3758$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> I'd be a little careful using the air-activated type batteries, unless there's a vent on the back of the radio. From what I've heard, they vent fumes that could cause corrosion if left in an enclosed space--definitely not a drop-in item for something like an Accutron watch. I wonder if there's something along the same size in silver oxide batteries..... "Hatfield" wrote in message news:1137460507.218841.295000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I would like to post some experience on powering up these vintage > transistor radios. > > 1 First and foremost kudus to Wumpus who has posted an online pictorial > on how to use modern zinc air hearing aid batteries in an SR-H436 ruby. > > http://www.oldradioworld.de/srh436.htm > > 2. Based on this site, I tried using some hardware I had on hand and > found that a perfect spacer was easy to make in 10 minutes with #6 > brass hardware: a 6-32 machine screw, eight thin flat washers, one hex > nut. #6 sized brass is easy to machine: i.e. cutting down the screw > length using dikes , and a steel 6-32 hexnut can be used as a die to > clean up the threads on the brass screw after trimming it to length. > > 3. After a few successive trimmings of the screw, my spacer ended up > (the assembled screw, washers, nut) to an overall length of .457". > > 4. My spacer does have the screwtip sticking out past the nut like it > does in the Wumpus pictures. Instead the screw is recessed down inside > the hexnut, so that the nut (instead of the screwtip) contacts the > radio. Using more or fewer washers allows having the nut extend just > slightly past the tip of the screw. > > 5 Using 675 (i.e. blue) hearing aid batteries I do not need the paper > tubes which Wumpus shows. I just cut a strip about 5" long of gray duck > tape .200" wide and wrapped it around the stack of washers on the > spacer until that the diameter of spacer roughly equaled that of the > batteries, this leaves the screwhead and hexnut extending out of the > tape so they are not covered by the tape like the washers are. > > 6. I use no covering around the batteries (Wumpus used a paper tube) > because the stack of two batteries and the spacer holds tight in the > radio, and does not ever lose electrical contact as the radio is > jostled. The longest part of battery replacement is unscrewing the > radio cover with a disme, after that it takes 10 seconds to swap > batteries. > > 7. The discontinued Eveready 640 size alkaline cells have a mAh rating > of 325 and costed $5 each at Radio Shack. > > 8. #675 zinc airs are $36 including shipping for a case of sixty > Toshibas at www.microbattery.com/. And these are rated at 651 mAh ! > > 9. A couple hours ago my tiny SR-H436 picked up 20 listenable stations > during the daytime, a dozen loud and clear, with good selectivity, very > nice performer. > Article: 329343 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: paulSPAM@paulsherwin.co.uk (Paul Sherwin) Subject: Re: Silicon rectifier question Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:24:07 GMT Message-ID: <43cceded.7980305@news.demon.co.uk> References: <1137454394.568903.290120@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 16 Jan 2006 15:33:14 -0800, "Bob in Vt" wrote: >I am well aware of the danger/unreliability of the silicon rectifier >used in my Transoceanics....can I assume then that any old ac/dc >transformerless radio that uses these, the same applies. >I even have one in my Seeburg Jukebox...does that have to go too? >Newbie/Novice here....be gentle It's actually rare for selenium and other metal rectifiers to put out clouds of poison gas, but they do drop more and more voltage as they age so it's a good idea to replace them. You'll need some sort of resistor in series with the diode to limit the surge current, and ideally you should choose this to set the correct B+ voltage, though a few volts either way normally won't matter. I normally use 200 ohms but it's not critical. You can leave the old rectifier in place (disconnected) for cosmetic reasons. One thing to bear in mind is that silicon diodes tend to fail short circuit when they fail, so it's wise to minimize the impact of such failures. The simplest approach is to fit several diodes in series which dramatically reduces the risk. A more sophisticated approach is to fit a fuse or panel bulb before the rectifier diode, then a second diode 'backwards' between the diode +ve and chassis. If the rectifier diode fails short circuit, the second diode will pull lots of current and blow the fuse. Best regards, Paul -- Paul Sherwin Consulting http://paulsherwin.co.uk Article: 329344 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Vintage Electronics gone? Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 08:47:31 -0600 Message-ID: <12633-43CD0383-1016@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: I live about 100 miles Norh/Northeast of Hattiesburg and I haden't heard/read of Vintage Electronics before either. cuhulin Article: 329345 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Audio Output Transformers References: <1137472535.497863.302820@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1137503766.845276.135360@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137518063.104710.301880@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 17:38:23 GMT nesesu wrote: > It might be possible to open one of those transformers > and add an air gap to the core. For push pull, centre tapped filament > transformers would likely work well. If you can get the laminations out of the frame, you can line them up in sets of 5-10 matching instead of alternating every other one. You get the benefits of a gap and still don't loose too much coupling. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329346 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Vintage Electronics gone? Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 13:48:25 -0600 Message-ID: <19272-43CD4A09-1108@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <9MudnVfhvohpqVDeRVn-jQ@comcast.com> I made a goof on my previous post.Actually I live about 100 miles North/Northwest of Hattiesburg.I sort of know an old guy in Hattiesburg whom was at Kagnew Station in Africa.He was in the U.S.Army and he worked in decyphering radio signals at Kagnew Station. www.kagnewstation.com I suppose he knows a lot of things about radio and radio signals. cuhulin Article: 329347 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: huge lot 78rpm records-Ebay References: <1137507930.021259.181480@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <80czf.255512$2k.141074@pd7tw1no> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:59:00 GMT Is it really that difficult to put FA: at the beginning of your subject line? Three extra characters? the MAGNATE wrote: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQfgtpZ1QQfrppZ25QQsassZ66fourdoor > -- Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Article: 329348 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith 12 tube Walton on FleaBay NOT! From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <7bYyf.4553$bF.3070@dukeread07> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:04:15 GMT In article <7bYyf.4553$bF.3070@dukeread07>, radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM says... > > >John.. > >Was that one a keeper? > >Pete > > Yup no question about this one.... they will pry it out of my cold dead fingers... standard reply to those who ask How Much.... Dunno... ask my Widow! Funny how that one worked out... I know the seller Gerry ... and had in fact shipped a fair number of parts to him for this Walton 12 tuber. Then when it came up for auction .. I was in there bidding on it... I have pictures in my puter at home of the cabinet ... prior to... and during.. and after the restoration on it... well I managed to win this one... figured I would never own a real 12 toober... so yes I am happy .... and Yes Flea Bay this morning pulled the Fake Auction for my radio.. Wish we could have played with that guy for a few days... one of the bidders had a Bank Account number from Wachovia Bank to transfer the money to... I wanted to send him an email and ask about picking up the radio and paying in long green cash ... as Deland, FL where he claims he is... is maybe 40 miles from where I am in Florida... John k9uwa /w4 snowbird Article: 329349 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Tiny Admiral Found Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 14:09:51 -0700 Message-ID: <8640-43CD5D1F-1417@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> References: I posted the one i found years ago & no interest . Its exactly like yours accept bakelite painted off white with a green speaker grille . good sounding & working . I took the grille off mine to clean better and noticed `admiral` stampped into the bakelite behind the grille . This one has no screws in the grille as in Radiola guys radio . I think those were added . I also have the Silvertone 6402 brown mini 4 tuber . This one works no better than a crystal set . Bigger but not much , just bought an RCA Victor `lil nipper` brown bakelite , airplane like dial . good radio . Article: 329350 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43CD5F03.60607@socal.rr.com> From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Free Stuff In S.E. PA Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:17:57 GMT Yes, I've been getting bounced messages, but not all the time. Yes on the shipping costs. And yes, I'm still interested in the chassis. I did get the pictures and it looks like what I need. Thanks Jeff Mark Robinson wrote: > Hi Jeff, > > I haven't heard back from you on the Radiola 18. I am planning to ship out > the Philco 55 and some other stuff this week and want to make one trip to > get everything done. Can you let me know if you are still interested in the > chassis? If not, no problem. Did you get me previous email with the > pictures and shipping cost estimates? My email problems are still here, so > you may have to reply a few times to get through to me if you get a bounce. > > Regards, > > Mark -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329351 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: <1137472535.497863.302820@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Audio Output Transformers Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:36:23 GMT nesesu wrote: > Upon checking the speaker for the Zenith 7S657 I am restoring, I found > that the primary of the output transformer is open circuit. Look at eBay items: 7383067479 Single Ended 7383074396 Push Pull i bought some, also including shipping cost to Italy they were still cheap. I found them working well in all the radios i had to repair the output. Sizes are also good for small chassis, A++ -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 329352 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ron H" References: <0y_yf.37125$7S.1142@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Crapp!! Missed it! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 16:24:56 -0600 Now I am envious!!!!! I suppose you wouldn't consider???? I know, a collector buys but never sells.... Enjoy! Ron H. "jim menning" wrote in message news:0y_yf.37125$7S.1142@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Ron H" wrote in message news:rIYyf.177$VM5.15@fe17.lga... > > > > In my seemingly random searching, I found a MEISSNER 10-1199 unbuilt kit > > that was sold at auction last June!! Still in the original unopened box! > > Damm! I don't know what it went for, they wanted me to "logon" to find out > > and I don't need to be on any more lists! > > > > > > Day late, dollar short.... so to speak! > > > > Ron H. > > > > > > > > Similar to this one I bought at the April 2005 Tom Harris auction? > > http://tinyurl.com/7bjv7 > > jim menning > > Article: 329354 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: Subject: Re: Nixie tube multimeter Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 22:46:43 GMT Thanks for all the suggestions on the meter manual. A nice guy had an origianl one and he was kind enough to scan it and email it to me. The first thing I see is that my meter has been modified, big surpirse... But it seems to work just fine on AC & DC. A little Novis polish and it looks almost like new. Those nixie tubes look so nice. 73, Ron Article: 329355 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: New parts source Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:53:22 +0100 Message-ID: <0428a4377694210c13ee728b4a91b530@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: **Anybody done any business with these guys? As others say, AES is becoming heavily guitar and power audio stuff. I've always preferred RadioDaze- good prices, fast delivery. As they say in feedback circles, "HIGHLY RECOMMENDED". Ask for their catolog- it tells the story better. -Pete Article: 329356 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "wa2mze(spamless)" <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: FS: NOS 1L6 Tubes References: <1137155764.085367.172310@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1137178788.160771.112100@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <3meyf.40684$0y2.4809@bignews2.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 19:31:03 -0500 Jim Mueller wrote: > On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:04:32 +0000, Lou deGonzague wrote: > > >>If you look at the interelectrode capacities between 1L6 and 1LA6 you >>will see there are some differences, they are not identical. >> >>wa2mze(spamless) wrote: >> >>>Peter Wieck wrote: >>> >>> >>>>It must be noted that Sylvania was the _only_ actual manufacturer of >>>>this tube. All other "Names" rebranded Sylvania tubes for resale. This >>>>tube was commissioned by Zenith (well... 'offered' by Sylvania) in 1949 >>>>as a repackaged 1LA6 to fit their miniature-tube line of T/Os. Zenith's >>>>original plan was to install a locktal socket into this line... just >>>>look at the chassis punch-out in the G500 and early H500s. Sylvania >>>>obligingly repackaged the tube and a captive-market all at once.... as >>>>the 1L6 was quickly adopted by almost every other portable SW radio >>>>maker over the next 15 years or so. >>>> >>>>It is possible to adapt a 1LA6 or 1LC6 as a direct replacement. But the >>>>adaptor will not fit into all locations, nor will alignment remain >>>>unaffected in all cases. >>>> >>>>As Carroll stated, the life-span of these tubes, excepting abuse, is >>>>indefinite. Assuming one's existing stable of radios requiring such >>>>tubes is in decent condition and has intact tubes, and numbers less >>>>than say.... 20, 5 additional tubes should have the entire stable >>>>giving pleasure to the great-grands... assuming there is something to >>>>receive by then. >>>> >>>>Peter Wieck >>>>Wyncote, PA >>>> >>> >>>Reducing the size of the elements of the 1LA6 to fit inside a 7 pin >>>envelope yet retaining the same parameters was an amazing bit of engineering. >>>Yet this has been done for many tubes... >>>50C5=50L6, 12BE6=12SA7, 12AV6=12SQ7, 12BA6=12SK7, 6BQ5=6F6, 6AQ5=6V6, 6CL6=6AG7 >>>6AR5=6K6, 6AK6=6G6G etc..... > > > > These aren't all identical. 12BA6 has significantly more gain than a > 12SK7. It is more like a 12SG7. The miniature equivalent of a 12SK7 is a > 12BD6. Likewise, a 6BQ5 has about 4 1/2 times the gain of a 6F6 as well > as more power output when operated at the same voltage. 50L6, 6V6, > and 6K6 have higher voltage ratings and can therefore produce more > power than the otherwise similar 50C5, 6AQ5, 6AR5. A closer > miniature equivalent to the 6V6 is the 6CM6. > > This, of course, makes it even more amazing, reducing the size and > frequently increasing the performance. > The 12SG7 is a semi-remote cutoff pentode while the 12BA6 and 12SK7's are considered remote cutoff. Reducing the spacing between the electrodes does change things, and higher gain makes sense. I was comparing the basic electrical parameters and most of the tubes I mentioned were similar in these, as well as in intended application. The 6BQ5 and 6GK6 (identical tubes except for pin connections) are similar in basic parameters (same heater current, plate voltage, GM, etc) to the 6F6 and the typical operating parameters are the same. The 6BQ5 is a better tube (which has higher plate rating?) though. My point is that the tubes I mentioned will sub for the octal ones with a socket change and probably no circuit changes other than a re-alignment of the set (for rf/if tubes anyway). As far as the converter tubes go, it's amazing that the anode grid type converters lasted as long as they did and outnumbered the electron coupled types. (Ah another octal-mini pair the 6BA7 and 6SB7Y). Also interesting that due to pin assignments the 6K8 and 6A8 can sub for each other (at least on the BC band). Also the 6A7 and 6F7 (again BCB only, and might need to add a gimmick cap). Finally the 6L7 looks like the 6SA7 except for pin assignment (double ended vs single ended) but the 6L7 won't work in an electron coupled circuit as it lacks the plate "wings" on it's grid #2. Also the 6L7 was designed for oscillator injection on grid #4 and rf signal on grid #2 just the reverse of the 6SA7. 6SA7's were used as mixers (wonder if anybody ever reversed the grid assignment in this service and if it made a difference. Probably would since grid #4 on the 6SA7 is supercontrol and grid #1 is sharp cutoff) Article: 329357 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Soldering Irons or Stations Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 02:00:48 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <71d7s1hgnpvam2o9n5f3k3jbuls9g1mbm1@4ax.com> In "Gary Tayman" writes: >Iso-Tip makes a great portable gun -- perfect for portable use. >I've used it for working on antennas on the roof, in cars, on boats, >and there's no need for an extension cord. You can use a large-tip iron this way, too, if you run really fast. :) Only good for one joint, though. The other advantage of Iso-tips, as the name implies, is you can work on live circuitry. Not that I'm recommending this, of course, but sometimes it's useful (or accidental). I use a Weller WTCP with a ground lift for this reason. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 329358 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" References: <0pqdnYrpfuBGy1neRVn-uw@comcast.com> Subject: Re: DONT MISS MARC'S FEB 4 SWAP Message-ID: Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 03:15:30 GMT One slight correction. Seller setup and early bird admission starts at 7:30am. And probably the best food available at any meet too. "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:0pqdnYrpfuBGy1neRVn-uw@comcast.com... > If you might be in town anyways for the Superbowl...! > > Sat, Feb 4 2006 > Farmington Hills MI > Costick Activities Center > 28600 Eleven Mile Rd > > doors open at 8am for early buyers ($10) and set up > 9am-2pm for general admission ($5) > > Take Orchard Lake RD exit off I-696 > South to 11 mile Rd, go east about 1.5 miles. > about half mile east of Middlebelt Rd. > > several motels around the area... red roof at orchard lake and 12 mile I > think by the I-696 exit. > > The MARC winter swap is possibly the largest indoor antique radio swap in > the USA. Over 120 tables filled with radios, phonos, parts, and related > collectables. Occassionally an early TV or computer will show up, too. > > "Radio Rescue" brings in the general public with radios unknown, and > sometimes for sale! > > The Contest will include: > "Promotional Sets" > "Tomorrow's Collectables" 1946+ items not yet "hot" in the collecting > world > that you think will be.... this should be fun.... > and ... the "Open" catagory where anything radio, TV test equipt, etc > goes. > > There is a "Silent Auction" as usual, and the final "Good Buy" auction > too, > where stuff goes for super cheap! > > need any more info? email me... > > Mark Oppat > moppat at comcast dot net > 734-455-4169 10:30am-9pm EST any day > > > Article: 329359 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: paulSPAM@paulsherwin.co.uk (Paul Sherwin) Subject: Re: EBL21 Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 16:08:35 GMT Message-ID: <43c52beb.17202676@news.demon.co.uk> References: On Wed, 11 Jan 2006 12:43:31 +0100, Stein-Olav Lund wrote: > >Omer Suleimanagich wrote: > >> Does anybody know what nine pin tube is a replacement for this loctal tube >> and does anybody know what the pinout would be for converting a loctal dummy >> plug with nine pine socket, making a mini tube adapter? >> >Why replace the EBL21, they are still around! Not cheap though! >There are _very_ few output pentodes with diodes, EBL1 and EBL31 are the >only ones I can think of at the moment. None with 9-pin min. ... >Are the diodes used? >In that case, use one or two Germanium diodes for them, or substitute >say a triode or a pentode in the audio circuits with a tube including >diode(s). >Use an EL84/6BQ5, or a smaller output tube with B9A base. >Make an adapter with info from the tube data pages on the net. These are mainly found in short superhet designs without an AF preamp stage, so the slope of the tube is very important. An EL33 and 2 diodes would be a suitable replacement (or an EL22 if you can find one) and would look better than an EL84, but these are expensive also. American octal tubes like 6V6s don't have high enough slope in most designs. As Stein says, I'd just get another EBL21 if you can find one at a reasonable price. Good luck, Paul -- Paul Sherwin Consulting http://paulsherwin.co.uk Article: 329360 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" Subject: Old Eaton's cat. Message-ID: Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:12:27 -0600 This might be of most interest to the Canucks here... on a winter holiday trip to Regina (Yeah, I know, !?!? when there's Florida) I chanced on a borrowed 1937 Eaton's catalogue. Eaton's was a family-owned mainstay department store in Canada for decades, and sold by mail as well as in huge stores. Amid the corsets, horse harness and linoleum pages was a radio page. I'm posting it whole and in parts on abpr, for whomever is interested. Cheers, Nelson Article: 329361 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: Subject: Re: Old Eaton's cat. Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:28:35 GMT Hi! > Eaton's was a family-owned mainstay > department store in Canada for decades, and sold by mail as well as in huge > stores. And for those interested in a little Eaton's history and an "unauthorized tour"... http://uem.minimanga.com/occupied/eatons/ (No affiliation...just something I stumbled across one day.) William Article: 329362 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" Subject: Just lost my first vacuum tube... Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 02:32:14 GMT Hello all... I don't suppose that's a rite of passage in some way...? :-) This morning I wanted to listen to my Delco six-tube table radio. Unfortunately, it simply would not power up. Tonight I got out the Sencore tube tester and another radio using the same tube lineup. Some testing and one swap confirmed that I'd lost a 12SK7 tube in the radio. It appears to have been the only original ("Delco" branded) tube left in the set. For the moment I've borrowed a tube from another radio. However, I'd like to replace this one. Since I've never bought a vacuum tube before, where is a good place to do so? Anything to look out for? Would anyone here on the group sell me one? William Article: 329363 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Fred C" References: <43cb0911@news.meer.net> <1137414386.897922.265290@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Movie Dial Airlines Message-ID: <43cda7e0@news.meer.net> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:28:43 -0500 Brian, the # 68 bulb is a 12 volt bulb- don't think that will work since as far as I know the supply voltage for the projector is 6 volts. I found this information in several places today. I have also found that the 87 that I came up with may be a little overkill- it is 15 candlepower. I took my bulb out today. It is an 81 which is smaller bulb, and is 10 candlepower, 6 volts. I came up with an 81 as a spare. Fred Crews "Brian" wrote in message news:1137414386.897922.265290@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> The lamp used in the projector seems to have a Montgomery Ward part >> number. >> I have found the 6 volt bulb #87 used on 6 volt cars to work fine. >> Anyone >> else have anything on this? > > > I've got a #68 in the spare lamp holder of my 62-311 and I think that's > what's in the projector as well. I remember going to a lot of trouble > to try to find an exact replacement bulb when the one in the radio > died. I don't quite recall how I settled on this one, but it's worked > fine for years. > > By the way, the orientation of the filament affects the image projected > onto the screen. I found it worthwhile to rotate the bulb and socket > for the most uniform image. > > Brian > Article: 329364 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: Subject: Re: Old Eaton's cat. Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 21:40:21 -0500 Message-ID: <43cdaaad$0$14123$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Any radio batteries in that catalog? I'd love to see a hi-res scan of them. Bill "Nelson Gietz" wrote in message news:Zshzf.613$PD6.265@fe17.lga... > This might be of most interest to the Canucks here... on a winter holiday > trip to Regina (Yeah, I know, !?!? when there's Florida) I chanced on a > borrowed 1937 Eaton's catalogue. Eaton's was a family-owned mainstay > department store in Canada for decades, and sold by mail as well as in > huge > stores. Amid the corsets, horse harness and linoleum pages was a radio > page. I'm posting it whole and in parts on abpr, for whomever is > interested. > Cheers, > Nelson > > Article: 329365 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <43cdaaad$0$14123$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Subject: Re: Old Eaton's cat. Message-ID: <69izf.522$Fj7.114@fe13.lga> Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 20:59:57 -0600 Coming to your email. Nelson "Bill Morris" wrote in message news:43cdaaad$0$14123$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net... > Any radio batteries in that catalog? I'd love to see a hi-res scan of them. > > Bill > > > > > "Nelson Gietz" wrote in message > news:Zshzf.613$PD6.265@fe17.lga... > > This might be of most interest to the Canucks here... on a winter holiday > > trip to Regina (Yeah, I know, !?!? when there's Florida) I chanced on a > > borrowed 1937 Eaton's catalogue. Eaton's was a family-owned mainstay > > department store in Canada for decades, and sold by mail as well as in > > huge > > stores. Amid the corsets, horse harness and linoleum pages was a radio > > page. I'm posting it whole and in parts on abpr, for whomever is > > interested. > > Cheers, > > Nelson > > > > > > Article: 329366 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Lyndell Scott" References: <5nUyf.4762$1J1.2298@tornado.texas.rr.com> <51Vyf.37070$7S.16706@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <43CC4BE8.7000909@adelphia.net> <9MudnVfhvohpqVDeRVn-jQ@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Vintage Electronics gone? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:44:29 GMT I've dealt with Ed several times, and I highly recommend him. Article: 329367 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Old Eaton's cat. Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 00:45:17 -0500 Message-ID: <11srlfddfp46pe8@news.supernews.com> References: "Nelson Gietz" wrote in message news:Zshzf.613$PD6.265@fe17.lga... > This might be of most interest to the Canucks here... on a winter holiday > trip to Regina (Yeah, I know, !?!? when there's Florida) I chanced on a > borrowed 1937 Eaton's catalogue. Eaton's was a family-owned mainstay > department store in Canada for decades, and sold by mail as well as in > huge > stores. Amid the corsets, horse harness and linoleum pages was a radio > page. I'm posting it whole and in parts on abpr, for whomever is > interested. > Cheers, > Nelson More than decades, Timothy Eaton opened his first drygoods store on Yonge St in Toronto in 1869. There was an Eaton's there until 1999, when they finally went bankrupt. I worked for them in the late '60s for a couple of years. It is still amazing to me that after surviving so long, they completely failed to adapt to the new retail tide, the "box" store era. They were for many years the largest customer of Dominion Electrohome, who made most of their "Viking" radios and phonos. They were more than a store as I was growing up, they were an institution. Hell, they even "owned" Christmas: the parade which still carries on today was all their own doing and carried their name! Article: 329368 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: Re: Dual Turntables Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 23:17:14 -0800 Message-ID: References: in my opinion, the 1019 was one of the best (if not the best) changer made. On Mon, 16 Jan 2006 23:05:01 -0500, "Gary" wrote: >I have two Dual TT's. One is a 1009 and the other is a 1019. The 1019's arm >is bent from my son stepping on it trying to reach the shelf the closet. My >question is: Are these TT's worth keeping? I will probably have to get new >cartridges, but I have hundreds of records that I haven't heard in years and >would like to. Both TT's were purchased between 1968 to 1970. > >Gary >extraclass@bellsouth.net Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com Article: 329370 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1137460507.218841.295000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2LqdnYEiJfJkf1HenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Modern batteries in Standard Micronic Rubys Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:40:24 -0800 Message-ID: <9pudnRMUH7WmtFPeRVn-sw@comcast.com> >> By the way, there's a chain of battery stores (can't think of the >> name) whose cross-reference for a 640 gives a replacement of >> a 625 -- a much smaller button cell. Be careful! > I believe William is thinking of "Battery World". They are in the US > and Canada for sure, so probably a chain. My Accutron watch takes > an oddball battery. I only found one jeweler in town who stocked them > at $8.50 ("But sir, they are Sony batteries"). Battery World had the > correct one for $3.00. OK, it was a Maxwell. You mean Maxell. That's a major brand (Hitachi, I think). Remember Maxell cassette tapes? > A thought - have you thought of using NiMH cells? Possibly there is an > equivalent pyhsical size? I've used them in Sony micro radios to replace > the originals with good success. And they're rechargeable. I'll know > better when my recently acquired Micronic arrives in the mail. A NiMH equivalent of a 640? Really? Article: 329371 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <43cdf091.57558455@news-server.kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: TRS-80 Dancing Demon (OT) Message-ID: <0Zpzf.7151$bF.716@dukeread07> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 06:51:13 -0500 Yeah. OT, no FA:, and you're probably shilling your own crap here. So much for the theory about the newsgroup name self-moderating crap auction links. "Mister Transistor" wrote in message news:43cdf091.57558455@news-server.kc.rr.com... > Well this is off topic but so very cool > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8751797685 > > Check out the Dancing Demon movie link in the auction! Brings back > memories! No floppy disk drive for storage on that bad boy..just 110 > baud cassette tape! > > > Article: 329372 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Just lost my first vacuum tube... Message-ID: <1xqzf.7161$bF.714@dukeread07> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 07:29:38 -0500 Bob Dobush is my preferred vendor. Good service, NO handling fees, reasonable prices and quick shipping. www.findatube.com Pete Article: 329373 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <43cdf091.57558455@news-server.kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: TRS-80 Dancing Demon (OT) Message-ID: <%Aqzf.118503$XC4.77774@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:34:03 GMT "Mister Transistor" wrote in message news:43cdf091.57558455@news-server.kc.rr.com... > Well this is off topic but so very cool > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8751797685 > > Check out the Dancing Demon movie link in the auction! Brings back > memories! No floppy disk drive for storage on that bad boy..just 110 > baud cassette tape! > > > Wow - now there's a flashback. We had those in school. That was my first experience with a computer. I remember doing math exercises on those in 4th grade (1984). When I got to middle school, the school had Apple computers, and the high school had the IBM 5150 PC's. For the longest time, the family computer was a Texas Instruments TI-99/4a computer until we upgraded to an XT clone (with dual floppy drives and 1200 baud modem!) I got my first computer with Windows in 1993, when I went to college. Just the other day, while sorting out my reels and cassettes, I came across some old databases that I'd saved on cassette for use with the TI. Most likely, they were for keeping track of my 45's collection, which has been collecting dust in my parents basement for years now. Ahhh the memories... You're making this 31 year old feel old now. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery/Antique_radios and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 329374 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Marshall 4140 Amp question Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 12:52:44 -0000 Message-ID: I rarely deal with valve/tube amps and am more familiar with radio output-matching transformers primary-windings having DC resistance of windings of hundreds of ohms. Been in a shed for years and no known history so treading cautiously. Measuring the DC resistance of each side to centre tap of this Marshall amp, shows only about 15 ohm each way. Amp is 100W o/p using 4 EL34 , two paralleled anodes going to each side of this impedance matcher. Does 15 ohm look right for each of these primary coils ? Output resistance of about 2.5 and 4.5 for 4 and 8 ohm settings seems fine. -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ Article: 329375 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1137460507.218841.295000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43ccee7d$0$3758$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Subject: Re: Modern batteries in Standard Micronic Rubys Message-ID: <8_qzf.7163$bF.6058@dukeread07> Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 08:00:42 -0500 "Bill Morris" wrote in message news:43ccee7d$0$3758$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net... > I'd be a little careful using the air-activated type batteries, unless > there's a vent on the back of the radio. From what I've heard, they vent > fumes that could cause corrosion if left in an enclosed space--definitely > not a drop-in item for something like an Accutron watch. > They do leave a residue in the battery compartment in a hearing aid. Also, once the tap is lifted, the battery is activated and has a finite lifespan. I've seen them dead out of the package because of leaky seals. Pete Article: 329376 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Fisher stereo Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:34:29 GMT Here's a question that should get a lively response: Many years ago while I was growing up, I had a Fisher stereo -- obviously one of those things I wish I had today. It was most definitely a tube type, and it did have a problem -- static noise in both channels (separately) of the audio. Sorta like a silver mica disease, it wanted to snap-crackle-pop at times. At the time I had figured it was tubes, which were mainly 12AX7's and possibly 12AU7's, and maybe military equivalents. I tried swapping tubes around, and was able to make some of the static move from one channel to the other, but never did tackle the problem. If I had it today I'm sure I could track it down better -- starting with a total recap. Now my questions are, can anybody identify the model? Then, how would this model hold up today against other stereo equipment? In other words, would it be worth it to pursue another identical stereo for the living room? This setup was made somewhere around 1961 or 2. It was in two pieces -- a rather large tuner and preamp, with a fixed-volume tube amplifier which sat elsewhere out of sight. Both pieces were maroon and gold in color. The tuner had two tuning indicators -- one for AM, one for FM. It had a switch which allowed for AM, FM, FM stereo, and AM in one channel and FM in the other. The tuner did indeed have FM MPX, but was not originally designed that way -- it had an opening on the chassis for "future" use, and the MPX was installed in that location. If I recall correctly, it had dual concentric controls for each channel. So instead of adjusting balance, you could adjust the volume for the left channel a little higher than the right if needed. You could also do this for treble and bass -- and if I'm not mistaken, the treble had markings for "FM", "LP" etc. It seems if I played records with the treble set to LP, it was a bit muffled, so I never quite understood that. I don't know if that's enough information, but I should think that would narrow it down to a couple of models. Any comments? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 329377 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" Subject: RCA Tombstones - what's with the eye screws? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:42:13 -0500 I have noticed that several RCA radios (e.g. 6BT6, 5T tombstones) have two eye screws on the inside of the cabinet, toward the front, about halfway up, one one each side. Anybody know why these are there? Thanks! Article: 329378 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Modern batteries in Standard Micronic Rubys From: "Haggis" telus.net> References: <1137460507.218841.295000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2LqdnYEiJfJkf1HenZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com> <9pudnRMUH7WmtFPeRVn-sw@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 15:24:28 GMT On 18-Jan-2006, "William Sommerwerck" wrote: >snip> correct one for $3.00. OK, it was a Maxwell. (((You mean Maxell. That's a major brand (Hitachi, I think). Remember Maxell cassette tapes?))) Forgive the 'typo' - I was probably thinking of that "Get Smart" guy who used to be on TV :-). >snip> A thought - have you thought of using NiMH cells? >snip> (((A NiMH equivalent of a 640? Really?))) As I mentioned, >snip> I'll know better when my recently acquired Micronic arrives >snip> I've come up with some strange cells by disassembling cordless 'phone batteries. Who knows? Cheers! Haggis. Article: 329379 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Fisher stereo References: <1137597993.365593.253090@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:08:22 GMT Peter Wieck wrote: > Does this look like it? > A cleaner to hit link: http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5853971553 I had one of those in 1975 Very nice... Teamed up with a Rek-o-cut turntable. My room mate found out the hard way that the cartidge raised up, the tone arm didn't. He also found out how much a cartridge costs when you tear the needle out of it. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329380 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Re: Marshall 4140 Amp question Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:13:56 -0000 Message-ID: References: <1137598755.585052.215500@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote in message news:1137598755.585052.215500@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I will check a couple of my amps tonight and see what the primary > _resistance_ is on the output transformers. One uses a pair of EL-34s > each channel, the other a pair of 6550s each channel. They are > audio-amps, not guitar amps, but the readings should be similar.... > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Yes, thanks. The only ones I've got lying around are small low wattage radio receiver type ones with range of 600 to 800 ohms on high voltage side. I could not find anything googling. It had obviously been overdriven as charred but functional gate resistors. Article: 329381 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Slightly OT -- Antenna Rotator controls References: <1137600261.939346.71160@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:20:44 GMT Terry S wrote: > I came into a box of antenna rotator parts. I tossed much of it, but I > hung on to about 3 or 4 of the control boxes. Nice little bakelite or > plastic boxes with a control on the front. Some might have a meter, > others might have another sort of indicator. Sounds like some of the older CDR antenna rotor controls. With a meter, it's probably this one. http://www.eham.net/data/classifieds/images/156650.jpg One of the original Ham-M series rotor controls. With what looks like a pointer and lots of detents, is the original step indexing positional indicator type rotors. (Cheaper, for use with light weight antennas and TV stuff.) http://www.comodo.nl/comodo/upload/cm1002080.jpg The later models were flat and more rectangular and had a longe clear plastic pointer/position indicator. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329382 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Compact AM antenna needed Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 09:44:39 -0700 I know this topic has been covered - my apologies for not being able to find it. A friend has a table-top transistor AM radio, nothing special. He lives in CT, wants to be able to listen to a specific station in NYC, but it comes in only weakly. He will not consider a long-wire, of course. He is looking for a table-top antenna that will increase the sensitivity of the radio a bit. I seem to recall a discussion of a tuned loop that was placed next to the radio to be helped? Thanks Bill Jeffrey Article: 329383 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Recent Visit from our Parisian Friend Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 11:28:56 -0600 Message-ID: <27100-43CE7AD8-1460@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <1137601829.726967.133770@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> There are some great pictures there. cuhulin Article: 329384 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Transformer Question References: <1137604884.826500.38320@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 17:42:43 GMT nesesu wrote: > Jeff, you are quite correct with regard to hand stacked cores\ By the way, if you're interested in the "black magic" behind transformer design, locate a copy of _Handbook of Transformer Design & Applications_ by Flanagan. McGraw Hill publishing. Bring your slide rule. ;-) Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 329385 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Compact AM antenna needed Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 18:03:32 GMT "Bill Jeffrey" wrote in message news:xeuzf.14115$V.1108@fed1read04... >I know this topic has been covered - my apologies for not being able to find it. > > A friend has a table-top transistor AM radio, nothing special. He lives in CT, > wants to be able to listen to a specific station in NYC, but it comes in only > weakly. He will not consider a long-wire, of course. He is looking for a > table-top antenna that will increase the sensitivity of the radio a bit. I seem to > recall a discussion of a tuned loop that was placed next to the radio to be helped? > > Thanks > > Bill Jeffrey If you can find one (discontinued) the Radio Shack 15-1853 works well for me. http://www.monitoringtimes.com/html/mt2002reviews.html#Radio%20Shack's%20Indoor%20AM%20Loop%20Antenna jim menning Article: 329386 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" Subject: Thermistor to delay B+ voltage build up. Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:33:15 -0330 When diodes are used in place of a tube rectifier (full wave power transformer circuit) I understand the danger is that B+ is applied immediately upon switch-on, at peak voltage, before the operating circuit tubes have had a chance to heat up and draw current. Thereafter the B+ voltage 'settles' to the operating value? Was it here that somebody mentioned using a thermistor in the B- return to the power transformer centre tap as a means, in such cases, to delay the voltage rise? If so? a) What type thermistor might be suitable for an eight tube military receiver circuit that draws less than 100 ma? b) Intending to build a plug in adaptor incorporating two diodes, a fuse and a dropping resistor as a totally reversible modification to a circuit presently employing a 6X5 (6.3 v @ 0.6 a) tube rectifier; could the thermistor be in series with the B+ output to the filter circuit and work in the same manner Not very familiar with 'thermistors'; thought they were temperature dependent/sensing semi conductor device. Not a self-heating thermal-delay switch/relay? Would appreciate advice/comment. Terry Article: 329387 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Thermistor to delay B+ voltage build up. Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 13:25:49 -0500 "Terry" wrote in message news:lpvzf.13789$xk1.347340@news20.bellglobal.com... > When diodes are used in place of a tube rectifier (full wave power > transformer circuit) I understand the danger is that B+ is applied > immediately upon switch-on, at peak voltage, before the operating circuit > tubes have had a chance to heat up and draw current. Thereafter the B+ > voltage 'settles' to the operating value? > > Was it here that somebody mentioned using a thermistor in the B- return to > the power transformer centre tap as a means, in such cases, to delay the > A directly heated rectifier (5Y3, 80, etc.) will also allow B+ long before the indirectly heated cathodes on the remaining tubes begin to emit electrons. The best thing to check is the surge voltage at turn-on, it should be at or below the filter capacitors rated working voltage. Some caps even have a higher surge voltage rating spec (for a given time, 20, 30 secs or so). Pete Article: 329388 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" References: <7lwwf.2070$Xo5.1559@trnddc02> <407-43C403D8-567@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: ethics of radio to guitar amp conversion Message-ID: Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 14:54:29 -0330 "Bill Turner" wrote in message news:407-43C403D8-567@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net... > JUST WONDERING WHAT ONE WATT ( AT 10 DISTORTION ) WILL SOUND LIKE. > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. > > Good question: But judging by much guitar 'music' it won't make any difference! It often sounds that way in fact it's often deliberately 'distorted' anyway. Nice to see your posting. Terry