Article: 331240 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Seen these? Quite a collection, not mine (don't I WISH!) Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:28:45 +0900 Message-ID: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtnorthup -- 5 decades of great music in the top genres, and more. Full Spectrum Radio http://www.live365.com/stations/fullspectrum?play Article: 331241 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: What have we here? Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 00:39:59 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1142178799.791300.111520@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> John Pelham wrote > "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote > > Information is worth what you pay for it. > > No it's not. The Web is full of free information that is valuable. > > > The problem with free web sites is that they come and go at the > > whim of the owners. > > And this $25 Web site won't ever "go at the whim of the owners?" > > What Steve said: No Thanks. > > John Pelham > Web site http://www.radiophile.com Radiophile: ~232 listed items total Radiomuseum, listed items from USA: 1900 - 1909: 2 1910 - 1919: 20 1920 - 1922: 240 1923: 469 1924: > 504 1925: > 504 more than 85.500 items in total Show me an other "website" with more information and I will pay you the 25$ for lifetime membership. BTW, some statistics about visitors (including members): 2004 2005 growth January 120157 223749 86.2 % February 108230 218509 101.9 % March 123280 219149 77.8 % April 131933 222283 68.5 % Mai 126460 215308 70.3 % June 125929 203861 61.9 % July 138876 217185 56.4 % August 150488 270601 79.8 % September 160072 262641 64.1 % October 206234 315798 53.1 % November 211612 329730 55.8 % December 189203 329364 74.1 % Total 1792474 3028178 Country hitparade, midth of 2005 (visitors from): 1. Germany 2466881 45.4 % 2. United Sates 459094 8.4 % 3. Austria 417993 7.7 % 4. Switzerland 366160 6.7 % 5. Italy 234182 4.3 % 6. Spain 174338 3.2 % 7. Netherlands 167587 3.1 % 8. United Kingdom 123818 2.3 % 9. France 113982 2.1 % 10. Belgium 76752 1.4 % Unknown 100630 1.9 % The rest 732083 13.5 % Schematics: > 46.000 Pictures: > 100.000 Too less for 25 lousy bucks? Kind Regards, Georg Article: 331242 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Seen these? Quite a collection, not mine (don't I WISH!) From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1142207485.036596.54540@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 00:01:33 GMT In article <1142207485.036596.54540@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, adrian_j_r@yahoo.com says... > > >Sheesh! >Talk about saturating the market - dumping that lot froma single seller >HAS to have an effect on prices, no? > >Adrian > probably not unless there are duplicates or triplicates in the list... I didn't see any.. lots of radios there.. John Article: 331243 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <1141947948.673977.18760@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <4vqdnfqbztzMvIzZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: 8BQ5 tubes Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 00:05:36 GMT I meant, something to raise the voltage? Take a look at the RMorg site on this topic: http://www.radiomuseum.org/forum/pcl86.html?thread_id=101513 Omer "Omer Suleimanagich" wrote in message news:aB9Qf.2272$x94.1621@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Could you add a dropping resistor and use these tubes as EL84's? > > Omer > > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:4vqdnfqbztzMvIzZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com... >> TV sets. Where most series filiment tubes lived. If you are savvy, you >> can >> make a lot of guitar amps or other audio amps, using these twins to the >> 6v >> versions. God knows there are billions of them , NOS, in storage still >> at >> cheap prices! >> >> Mark Oppat >> >> >> >> "jonfrum" wrote in message >> news:1141947948.673977.18760@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... >>> I'm wondering where these tubes were originally used. I assume they >>> were in radios, but I've never seen a schematic using them. >>> >>> >> >> >> > > Article: 331244 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: What have we here? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1142178799.791300.111520@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <0M2Rf.51954$_c.34187@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 00:10:36 GMT In article , 520066970381-0001@T-Online.de says... > >Pictures: > 100.000 > >Too less for 25 lousy bucks? > >Kind Regards, >Georg > > Hi Georg .... well if you took out the 1000 approximate pictures that you have of mine.... then you would only 99,000 pictures... since I cant access the site... John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331245 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" Subject: Need Philco 38-116 cabinet base Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 00:17:52 GMT Today the day finally came! I extracted that Philco that Ive wanted and planned to do for my collection for the past few years... boy! getting that Titanic out of its spot and across my basement was like parallel parking a tour bus in Manhattan! I was elated to find that there ARENT 100 bakelite blocks in it but the Cabinet base is in rough shape. Anybody have a parts cabinet with decent base rails that they would be willing to sell me the rails off of? Rest of cabinet is real solid so Id love to find new base rails. Thanks, Keith Article: 331246 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <1142207485.036596.54540@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Seen these? Quite a collection, not mine (don't I WISH!) Message-ID: <6L2Rf.262$fy1.46504@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:09:38 -0500 wrote in message news:1142207485.036596.54540@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > Sheesh! > Talk about saturating the market - dumping that lot froma single seller > HAS to have an effect on prices, no? > > Adrian As us baby-boomers (and older people) reach a different part of the Bell curve, there will be more and more of this happening. Oh, and fewer behind us to buy them, or even just to maintain the significant knowledge base that as it exists right now. Turning to sports... Article: 331247 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: BobFlintsTone@spamnomore.ca Subject: Re: Mick's AX84 High Octane Build: Wiring Photo Gallery Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:36:10 -0500 Message-ID: <1jf91257pvoullqh1de6hm7djfsrvaqflr@4ax.com> References: <1142202168.859158.309820@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> On 12 Mar 2006 14:22:48 -0800, "Mick" wrote: >Hello All, > >I know I needed all the photos I could get when I built my first amp, >the High Octane. I've added details of final wiring to my build log, >and also added a large wiring photo gallery to my build site. > >See them here: >www.charlestonarea.com/octane/octane_feb_25.htm > >Thanks again to all the great people who helped me with this build and >answered my many rookie questions. > >Best to all, >Mick Nice quality pics - what camera did you use? Article: 331248 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ron H" Subject: Ceramic Disc Cap Question Message-ID: <524Rf.30450$mi7.4735@newsfe13.lga> Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:38:06 -0600 OK, I've re-tubed the HQ-145 and replaced the defective 3 section electrolytic. What's the word on all those ceramic disc caps? Should I be replacing them just because they are 55 years old? Thought I would get an opinion before I start the alignment. K3PID Ron H. Article: 331249 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <524Rf.30450$mi7.4735@newsfe13.lga> Subject: Re: Ceramic Disc Cap Question Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 20:45:57 -0500 "Ron H" wrote in message news:524Rf.30450$mi7.4735@newsfe13.lga... > OK, I've re-tubed the HQ-145 and replaced the defective 3 section > electrolytic. What's the word on all those ceramic disc caps? Should I be > replacing them just because they are 55 years old? Thought I would get an > opinion before I start the alignment. > > > K3PID > Ron H. > > They rarely good bad. I'd leave them alone. That's a plus for the later Hammarlunds--easy to recap! Pete Article: 331250 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: Seen these? Quite a collection, not mine (don't I WISH!) Message-ID: <1j4Rf.17666$jf2.4581@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 01:56:13 GMT "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:dv2ai4$634$1@news2.kornet.net... > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZtnorthup > > -- > 5 decades of great music in the top genres, and more. > Full Spectrum Radio > http://www.live365.com/stations/fullspectrum?play > Wow - and all within driving distance of me! Too bad he doesn't have any of it for sale at his store instead. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/ and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 331251 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: The Darnedest Hallicrafters - Part 2 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 19:50:56 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1142207297.656300.54730@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 15:48:17 -0800, adrian_j_r wrote: > Now, here's an interesting Halli 5R10A > > http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q291429CC > > 'It works', claims the seller - but look at the chassis pic closely and > observe - it has NO filter capacitors! > > Is this radio missing something or am I? > :-) > > Adrian Perhaps, but I see a yellow wire running out of view under the cabinet flange on the left. It is connected to pin 4 of the 50L6, which is where the second filter capacitor typically goes. There is also a black wire and several other wires that I can't tell where they connect. Perhaps the capacitor is mounted to the side of the chassis where it is hidden by the flange. I wonder how many people buy these things thinking that they can actually receive police, fire, and aircraft communications? -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 331252 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: "Spammer "66 fourdoor" finished. Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 21:56:16 -0500 Message-ID: <1219nqh12b4hee@corp.supernews.com> References: <1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142085841.337915.31740@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> "Even Steven" wrote in message news:1142085841.337915.31740@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > Jon wrote: >> That sucks. . Thanks for nothing you jerks! > You're SOOOOOOOOOOO welcome! Hanging is too good for spammers in my book. I don't care if it is the Pope doing it, they can all burn in Hell. John H. John H. Article: 331253 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Mick's AX84 High Octane Build: Wiring Photo Gallery From: Doggone References: <1142202168.859158.309820@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 03:36:04 GMT "Mick" wrote in news:1142202168.859158.309820@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com: > Hello All, > > I know I needed all the photos I could get when I built my first > amp, the High Octane. I've added details of final wiring to my > build log, and also added a large wiring photo gallery to my > build site. > > See them here: > www.charlestonarea.com/octane/octane_feb_25.htm > > Thanks again to all the great people who helped me with this > build and answered my many rookie questions. > > Best to all, > Mick > That's impressive for a first build. Congratulations. Are you planing to make a cab. for it? Combo or stack? -- If it ain't broken, fix it till it is. Article: 331254 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Anyone got one of these Airline dial glasses? Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:11:49 +0900 Message-ID: http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Dial1.jpg http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/dial2.jpg http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Dial3.jpg -- 5 decades of great music in the top genres, and more. Full Spectrum Radio http://www.live365.com/stations/fullspectrum?play Article: 331255 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1142178799.791300.111520@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: What have we here? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 12 Mar 2006 23:00:09 -0500 "Georg Richter" wrote in message >... > Schematics: > 46.000 > Pictures: > 100.000 > > Too less for 25 lousy bucks? > > Kind Regards, > Georg Georg, There are people who appreciate your website and don't mind paying the 25$ for a _lifetime_ access to schematics and data that you can't access anywhere else for _free_. But the North-American culture is quite different from the European one. Reminds me a the guy who barged in a French Forum and "requested" a schematic for a French radio and was "annoyed" by the fact no one complied to his "request" or even replied to his post. Someone else was smart enough to know the difference and asked me to work as an intermediate... I got the schematic for free and made contact with very nice people within 4 hours on the very same forum...And I was extremely pleased to learn I could buy a CD full of schematics for a mere 25$... "Some" people think they are entitled to everything for free in life... Pearls...Swine... Best, Syl Article: 331256 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: SpringDiver Subject: Re: Power Transformer Requirements... Message-ID: References: <1141488577.554222.83260@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1141511354.451467.248270@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1142174897.452603.248430@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> <1142203011.432801.40920@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1142215140.205946.259430@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1142220979.895814.10420@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 05:19:34 GMT On 12 Mar 2006 19:36:19 -0800, "Mick" wrote: Mick; Do I understand that you require approx. 65ma. @ around 270vac and 2.6a @ 6.3 vac? If this is correct, take a look at the Hammond 270DX 90 ma 275 - 0 - 275. 2A 5 volt filament, 3A 6.3 volt filament.. Torres as a full spec at: http://www.torresengineering.com/hampowtran83.html That's the one I be using for my switcher. Wayne >Peter noted: >*** >But you can now pick a power-transformer with sufficient 'heft' >to handle the load. >*** > >Ah. Good point! Could just use the 269EX for filament power. ;-) >Mick Article: 331257 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Iain Churches" Subject: Re: Mick's AX84 High Octane Build: Wiring Photo Gallery Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:23:13 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1142202168.859158.309820@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> "Mick" wrote in message news:1142202168.859158.309820@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... > Hello All, > > I know I needed all the photos I could get when I built my first amp, > the High Octane. I've added details of final wiring to my build log, > and also added a large wiring photo gallery to my build site. > > See them here: > www.charlestonarea.com/octane/octane_feb_25.htm > > Thanks again to all the great people who helped me with this build and > answered my many rookie questions. > > Best to all, > Mick Excellent project. Thanks for sharing it. Your pics and commentary do a great deal to encourage others to build something. Iain Article: 331258 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142085841.337915.31740@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1219nqh12b4hee@corp.supernews.com> <1142239361.735282.207510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: "Spammer "66 fourdoor" finished. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:22:16 GMT Yeah, the AM Audio bandwidth reduction sucks. We dropped both of ours to 6khz. I can tell the difference on a few of my radios, namely the Philco 42-1010 and the RCA International console. I did an A-B test of our AM music station with my car radio and a couple boombox type portables and couldn't hear the difference. Right now, CC's focusing on HD Radio in the larger markets. We're in a pretty small market here, so we're low on the priority list. My AM's are probably a ways off since they're both directional arrays, which will take a little more engineering work. Luckily, one had been AM stereo, so it's in good shape. The other just got a phasor rebuild and new feedline, so it should have the necessary bandwidth to make it happen. The fun part will be making sure the sidebands are symmetrical. Jon "Steven_" wrote in message news:1142239361.735282.207510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Even I might remind Jon of two things: > > What Nudo/whatever does is against Google TOS also even if it can't be > enforced in Usenet policies effectively. > > If CC halved the analog audio bandwidth of many of it's AM stations, > are you now seeking IBOC quality material? > > Please turn out the lights behind you. > > I don't pay hicks for Internet anymore, and have a better Monday. > Article: 331259 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142085841.337915.31740@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1219nqh12b4hee@corp.supernews.com> <1142239361.735282.207510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1142240765.151574.135700@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: "Spammer "66 fourdoor" finished. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:37:27 GMT The whole payola / Spitzer thing is a big mess for everyone right now. Makes me glad that I'm mostly on the engineering side of things these days, and being that I'm PD of a Sports formatted station, I don't deal with music or record companies, so the whole issue is foreign to me. The Commission nailed a nearby market pretty hard recently. I haven't seen anything in the digests yet, but the stations in question racked up lots of no-no's: No EAS logs Non-functioning EAS equipment Not changing pattern on time on the AM directionals Missing public file documents Tower light violations and Main studio rule violations. We're audited frequently and strictly here, but even so, the above should be no-brainers. Jon "Steven_" wrote in message news:1142240765.151574.135700@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > And by that I clarify that he ...ah, hell he's a paperhangin' ad > crossposter! Nobody else does it in that manner, or at least not so > blatantly. Posting that you have something posibly valuable to the > membership isn't the bad thing, or certainly many of you would be in > violation of something, and who cares about that, really? Usenet wasn't > supposed to be a huge yard sale BB and this guy had bad cajones about > it. Even the 8-track people think he stinks, give up. > > Maybe Jon wants to get CC to do a big hoohah story and make the > newsgroup look evil. That would be EXCELLENT when you company could be > in deep doo-doo over payola, according to FCC's Adelstein > http://hraunfoss.fcc.gov/edocs_public/attachmatch/DOC-264230A1.doc > > Wish FCC would get serious about engineering now. > >Ÿ«}durk therefore I lurk. > > Some other time, thanks. > Article: 331260 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <524Rf.30450$mi7.4735@newsfe13.lga> <1142222289.901569.118770@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Ceramic Disc Cap Question Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:38:39 GMT wrote in message news:1142222289.901569.118770@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Hi > Actually ceramics with low voltage across them tend to become > leaky over time. Those run with close to rate voltage rarely > fail this way because the voltage clears the leak. In most places, > a little leakage is not an issue but it can upset high impedence > circuits like the grids of detectors that have large value leak > resistors. > Most ceramics are not used in critcal frequency selection circuits > except small npo ceramics are often found in FM front ends and > oscillators. > If I was going to replace, I'd only replace where I knew there > was a measured problem with a specific capacitor. > Just my thoughts. > Dwight The Hammarlund HX50 transmitter that I am currently working on uses ceramics in the heterodyne oscillator circuit and the subsequent circuits. Pulled out they test good with a solid state B&K checker. But I suspect one or two has drifted. Watch out for low tolerance markings on those caps like +- 5%. Especially the mica dipped (smooth dark brown/red ones) around 1 to 10 puff (pF). I am going to go back and check a few of the above mentioned caps with an old school cap tester. BTW - I got the oscillator to oscillate at normal amplitude. Seems some one fussed with the slug in the first plate choke (10 meter A band) of the heterodyne oscillator and put the wrong one in. The choke could not reach the needed uh about 2 for proper oscillation. I put a second slug in to it and WOW. The amplitude popped right up. It still has two dead crystals and a few that have significantly drifted off. I have one on order. I am currently linearizing the Second and Driver circuits for the required <1db variance. This is where skill meets technology. One has to detune and fuss with the coils until the amplitude of the stage is linear over the band. What a learning curve! What a dog. PP Article: 331261 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <1142178799.791300.111520@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: What have we here? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:55:46 GMT I must support the usefulness of Radiomuseum. I have received help numerous times from these guys. Better than calling a technical support center. They are real pros. If you are stuck on a European radio (not just German) that is the place to go. Paul. "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:omYQf.12484$pV5.3475@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > Steve Reeves wrote: > >> $25.00 to view a Radio Website? >> WOW! >> No Thanks > > Information is worth what you pay for it. > > The problem with free web sites is that they come and go at the > whim of the owners. > > A notable example of which was the Heathkit schematic archive. > The owner got a hair up his ass about the US invasion of Iraq. > (Well within his own right I might add.) He took the site down > in protest. > > And as Syl said, if you're working on German radios, the site > is well worth the contribution to keep it running. That, and it > tends to filter out the clowns. > > Jeff > > > -- > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331262 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stein-Olav Lund Subject: Re: Svenska Radio A-B tube Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:59:05 +0100 Message-ID: <44156C99.6060400@iet.hist.no> References: <44145f83$0$2021$9a622dc7@news.kpnplanet.nl> Peter den Boer wrote: > Hi, > Recently I received a Svenska Radio A-B tube type FM2. Can anyone tell me > more about Svenska Radio A-B and the type FM2. > Best regards > Peter den Boer Look on Åke Holm's (he's a Swede) home page, he has a nice collection of Swedish as well as other tubes: http://www.akh.se/tubes/index.htm He has pics of the FIII and F12,other old Swedish tubes from that era, didn't find your type no. though... Stein Article: 331263 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <1142226239.878410.52070@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 'Most Powerful' Field Coil? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:36:39 GMT A couple thoughts: 1) The typical field coil resistance that I have seen in anywhere from 800 to 1200 ohms. But this is for a Philco radio using the field coil as part of the power supply filtering. 2) Have you tried a lower DC resistance field coil? That should reduce the power consumption provided it is hooked up as a filter. Watch out for the increase in B+. BUT - Before lowering the field coil resistance, Is it hooked up in a manner to provide power supply filtering as a choke from one cap feeding another? If not (like you said parallel from B+ to ground) then don't do this. 3) It is the current through the field coil that will yield the most flux density. Not the voltage or the resistance. That said, if you can get the current up but keep the voltage lower then you will get less power consumption (I squared R losses) and more flux density (i.e., ability for the voice coil to oppose the field and move). However, I did not plot I vs. E charts. Your config has 70 ma of current dropping 425 volts. A series wired field coil for example in the Philco 40-180 (http://www.nostalgiaair.org/Resources/336/M0013336.htm) has 85 volts (270 - 185 final B+) across a 1100 ohm field coil. That yields 77 ma. More flux. Potentially louder mechanical output. Perhaps not only fabricating the part wrong they hooked it up wrong too. Like taking a circuit that uses a PM speaker and swapping out an Electrodynamic. Instead of using the field coil as part of the B+ filtering they did what seemed to be the easiest. Paralleling across the B+. The RDH4 did not have much on how to wire a field coil up (unless I missed it). I really can't remember ever seeing that config (B+ to ground). Can you post a schematic on the binaries? Good luck. Sound like a cool challenge. Paul wrote in message news:1142226239.878410.52070@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > Hi Y'all, > > Trick question really; I'm working to correct another person's > replication of an early guitar amplifier design that used a field coil > speaker. The driver in question is purportedly a copy of a late 30's > Jensen 15" full range driver, 'hooked up as original'. Maybe it is, but > something strikes me as 'not quite right'... > > As delivered, it's wired such that the field coil, w/ 6K ohms DC > resistance is in parallel across 425VDC ('full' B+); this makes the > coil soak up 30 watts by itself (! and significantly limits further > power available from the circuit's single 5U4 rectifier.) Before you > ask, no, the field coil itself isn't shorted (I'm thinking that they > fabricated this 'replica part' wrong.) > > I've looked through various old radio references/schematics, and all > I've come up with thus far is that a typical radio field coil speaker's > field coil might be expected to draw 3 to 5 watts or so (based on > voltages/ohms shown on various schematics, with the field coil either > wired as a choke, or sometimes as the pwr xfmr HV secondary center tap > return to ground, or connected later in the circuit at a lower B+.) > > So the question is: > > What's the greatest *known to be correct as designed* static power > consumption for the field coil of a 'big' field coil speaker? (...am I > indeed on track for 'typical' field coil power consumption?) > > FWIW I've played with the efficiency of this driver/design with lower > B+ on the coil; I've already determined that I can stick ~4500 ohms in > series with it, which will drop overall power consumption by 12 watts > and the coil is only consuming 10 watts then; it runs cooler (and I'm > happier), only loosing 4db acoustic output efficiency when I do that... > > TIA for any and all comments/data, > -Robert > QTS > http://www.Braught.com > > "Dirt, mice, or foreign matter can sometimes cause excessive leakage." > Triplett 630-PL 1959 owners manual pg 24 > Article: 331264 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1142226239.878410.52070@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 'Most Powerful' Field Coil? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 08:41:28 -0500 "Paul P" wrote in message news:HzeRf.1001$%b.6@trndny04... >A couple thoughts: > > 1) The typical field coil resistance that I have seen in anywhere from > 800 to 1200 ohms. But this is for a Philco radio using the field coil as > part of the power supply filtering. > > 2) Have you tried a lower DC resistance field coil? That should reduce > the power consumption provided it is hooked up as a filter. Watch out for > the increase in B+. BUT - Before lowering the field coil resistance, Is > it hooked up in a manner to provide power supply filtering as a choke from > one cap feeding another? If not (like you said parallel from B+ to > ground) then don't do this. > > 3) It is the current through the field coil that will yield the most flux > density. Not the voltage or the resistance. That said, if you can get > the current up but keep the voltage lower then you will get less power > consumption (I squared R losses) and more flux density (i.e., ability for > the voice coil to oppose the field and move). However, I did not plot I > vs. E charts. > > Your config has 70 ma of current dropping 425 volts. A series wired field > coil for example in the Philco 40-180 > (http://www.nostalgiaair.org/Resources/336/M0013336.htm) has 85 volts > (270 - 185 final B+) across a 1100 ohm field coil. That yields 77 ma. > More flux. Potentially louder mechanical output. > > Perhaps not only fabricating the part wrong they hooked it up wrong too. > Like taking a circuit that uses a PM speaker and swapping out an > Electrodynamic. Instead of using the field coil as part of the B+ > filtering they did what seemed to be the easiest. Paralleling across the > B+. > > The RDH4 did not have much on how to wire a field coil up (unless I missed > it). > > I really can't remember ever seeing that config (B+ to ground). > > Can you post a schematic on the binaries? > > Good luck. Sound like a cool challenge. > > Paul > > > wrote in message > news:1142226239.878410.52070@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >> Hi Y'all, >> >> Trick question really; I'm working to correct another person's >> replication of an early guitar amplifier design that used a field coil >> speaker. The driver in question is purportedly a copy of a late 30's >> Jensen 15" full range driver, 'hooked up as original'. Maybe it is, but >> something strikes me as 'not quite right'... >> >> As delivered, it's wired such that the field coil, w/ 6K ohms DC >> resistance is in parallel across 425VDC ('full' B+); this makes the >> coil soak up 30 watts by itself (! and significantly limits further >> power available from the circuit's single 5U4 rectifier.) Before you >> ask, no, the field coil itself isn't shorted (I'm thinking that they >> fabricated this 'replica part' wrong.) >> >> I've looked through various old radio references/schematics, and all >> I've come up with thus far is that a typical radio field coil speaker's >> field coil might be expected to draw 3 to 5 watts or so (based on >> voltages/ohms shown on various schematics, with the field coil either >> wired as a choke, or sometimes as the pwr xfmr HV secondary center tap >> return to ground, or connected later in the circuit at a lower B+.) >> >> So the question is: >> >> What's the greatest *known to be correct as designed* static power >> consumption for the field coil of a 'big' field coil speaker? (...am I >> indeed on track for 'typical' field coil power consumption?) >> >> FWIW I've played with the efficiency of this driver/design with lower >> B+ on the coil; I've already determined that I can stick ~4500 ohms in >> series with it, which will drop overall power consumption by 12 watts >> and the coil is only consuming 10 watts then; it runs cooler (and I'm >> happier), only loosing 4db acoustic output efficiency when I do that... >> >> TIA for any and all comments/data, >> -Robert >> QTS >> http://www.Braught.com >> >> "Dirt, mice, or foreign matter can sometimes cause excessive leakage." >> Triplett 630-PL 1959 owners manual pg 24 >> > > Article: 331265 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1142226239.878410.52070@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 'Most Powerful' Field Coil? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:56:26 GMT I dug out an old catalog entry for Jensen (early 40's), and they made 15 inch speakers with field coils of 860, 1250, 2500, and 5400 ohms (you could special order other values). The closest to your speaker (model A-15) is the 5400 ohm version, rated to operate at 300 volts DC, 14 watts. The 18 inch Jensens (V18-DC) were rated at 25 watts for the field coil, max. Since yours is a "copy" of a Jensen, who knows, but it sounds like you need to back off a bit on the field current. -- Mike Schultz wrote in message news:1142226239.878410.52070@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > Hi Y'all, > > Trick question really; I'm working to correct another person's > replication of an early guitar amplifier design that used a field coil > speaker. The driver in question is purportedly a copy of a late 30's > Jensen 15" full range driver, 'hooked up as original'. Maybe it is, but > something strikes me as 'not quite right'... > > As delivered, it's wired such that the field coil, w/ 6K ohms DC > resistance is in parallel across 425VDC ('full' B+); this makes the > coil soak up 30 watts by itself (! and significantly limits further > power available from the circuit's single 5U4 rectifier.) Before you > ask, no, the field coil itself isn't shorted (I'm thinking that they > fabricated this 'replica part' wrong.) > > I've looked through various old radio references/schematics, and all > I've come up with thus far is that a typical radio field coil speaker's > field coil might be expected to draw 3 to 5 watts or so (based on > voltages/ohms shown on various schematics, with the field coil either > wired as a choke, or sometimes as the pwr xfmr HV secondary center tap > return to ground, or connected later in the circuit at a lower B+.) > > So the question is: > > What's the greatest *known to be correct as designed* static power > consumption for the field coil of a 'big' field coil speaker? (...am I > indeed on track for 'typical' field coil power consumption?) > > FWIW I've played with the efficiency of this driver/design with lower > B+ on the coil; I've already determined that I can stick ~4500 ohms in > series with it, which will drop overall power consumption by 12 watts > and the coil is only consuming 10 watts then; it runs cooler (and I'm > happier), only loosing 4db acoustic output efficiency when I do that... > > TIA for any and all comments/data, > -Robert > QTS > http://www.Braught.com > > "Dirt, mice, or foreign matter can sometimes cause excessive leakage." > Triplett 630-PL 1959 owners manual pg 24 > Article: 331266 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" References: <1142226239.878410.52070@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 'Most Powerful' Field Coil? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 09:02:51 -0500 I have seen LOTS of early 1930's "Depression" sets (4 tube TRF) that have a 2000 ohms DC (or so) field coil connected directly from B+ (rectifier cathode) to ground, BEFORE the filter choke. I would estimate it receives about 130 volts DC in this case. Don't know why they would do this, but I suspect the DC current consumption of the set is not high enough to drive a field coil used as a choke. Dave "Paul P" wrote in message news:HzeRf.1001$%b.6@trndny04... > I really can't remember ever seeing that config (B+ to ground). Article: 331267 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1142226239.878410.52070@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 'Most Powerful' Field Coil? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:16:42 GMT I posted scans of the catalog pages in the binaries group. -- Mike Schultz "Mike Schultz" wrote in message news:eSeRf.491$Km6.175@trnddc01... >I dug out an old catalog entry for Jensen (early 40's), and they made 15 >inch speakers with field coils of 860, 1250, 2500, and 5400 ohms (you could >special order other values). The closest to your speaker (model A-15) is >the 5400 ohm version, rated to operate at 300 volts DC, 14 watts. The 18 >inch Jensens (V18-DC) were rated at 25 watts for the field coil, max. >Since yours is a "copy" of a Jensen, who knows, but it sounds like you need >to back off a bit on the field current. > > -- > Mike Schultz > > > wrote in message > news:1142226239.878410.52070@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >> Hi Y'all, >> >> Trick question really; I'm working to correct another person's >> replication of an early guitar amplifier design that used a field coil >> speaker. The driver in question is purportedly a copy of a late 30's >> Jensen 15" full range driver, 'hooked up as original'. Maybe it is, but >> something strikes me as 'not quite right'... >> >> As delivered, it's wired such that the field coil, w/ 6K ohms DC >> resistance is in parallel across 425VDC ('full' B+); this makes the >> coil soak up 30 watts by itself (! and significantly limits further >> power available from the circuit's single 5U4 rectifier.) Before you >> ask, no, the field coil itself isn't shorted (I'm thinking that they >> fabricated this 'replica part' wrong.) >> >> I've looked through various old radio references/schematics, and all >> I've come up with thus far is that a typical radio field coil speaker's >> field coil might be expected to draw 3 to 5 watts or so (based on >> voltages/ohms shown on various schematics, with the field coil either >> wired as a choke, or sometimes as the pwr xfmr HV secondary center tap >> return to ground, or connected later in the circuit at a lower B+.) >> >> So the question is: >> >> What's the greatest *known to be correct as designed* static power >> consumption for the field coil of a 'big' field coil speaker? (...am I >> indeed on track for 'typical' field coil power consumption?) >> >> FWIW I've played with the efficiency of this driver/design with lower >> B+ on the coil; I've already determined that I can stick ~4500 ohms in >> series with it, which will drop overall power consumption by 12 watts >> and the coil is only consuming 10 watts then; it runs cooler (and I'm >> happier), only loosing 4db acoustic output efficiency when I do that... >> >> TIA for any and all comments/data, >> -Robert >> QTS >> http://www.Braught.com >> >> "Dirt, mice, or foreign matter can sometimes cause excessive leakage." >> Triplett 630-PL 1959 owners manual pg 24 >> > > Article: 331268 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 'Most Powerful' Field Coil? Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:21:49 -0400 Message-ID: <121b3gafp5gcl03@corp.supernews.com> References: <1142226239.878410.52070@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Dave McClellan wrote: > I have seen LOTS of early 1930's "Depression" sets (4 tube TRF) that have a > 2000 ohms DC (or so) field coil connected directly from B+ (rectifier > cathode) to ground, BEFORE the filter choke. I would estimate it receives > about 130 volts DC in this case. Don't know why they would do this, but I > suspect the DC current consumption of the set is not high enough to drive a > field coil used as a choke. > > Dave This was done to avoid excessive voltage drop in the B+ line. -Bill Article: 331269 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1142226239.878410.52070@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 'Most Powerful' Field Coil? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:56:32 GMT They don't seem to have appeared there. Let me know you want me to email them to you. -- Mike Schultz "Mike Schultz" wrote in message news:e9fRf.3680$Jz4.2632@trnddc08... >I posted scans of the catalog pages in the binaries group. > > -- > Mike Schultz > > > "Mike Schultz" wrote in message > news:eSeRf.491$Km6.175@trnddc01... >>I dug out an old catalog entry for Jensen (early 40's), and they made 15 >>inch speakers with field coils of 860, 1250, 2500, and 5400 ohms (you >>could special order other values). The closest to your speaker (model >>A-15) is the 5400 ohm version, rated to operate at 300 volts DC, 14 watts. >>The 18 inch Jensens (V18-DC) were rated at 25 watts for the field coil, >>max. Since yours is a "copy" of a Jensen, who knows, but it sounds like >>you need to back off a bit on the field current. >> >> -- >> Mike Schultz >> >> >> wrote in message >> news:1142226239.878410.52070@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >>> Hi Y'all, >>> >>> Trick question really; I'm working to correct another person's >>> replication of an early guitar amplifier design that used a field coil >>> speaker. The driver in question is purportedly a copy of a late 30's >>> Jensen 15" full range driver, 'hooked up as original'. Maybe it is, but >>> something strikes me as 'not quite right'... >>> >>> As delivered, it's wired such that the field coil, w/ 6K ohms DC >>> resistance is in parallel across 425VDC ('full' B+); this makes the >>> coil soak up 30 watts by itself (! and significantly limits further >>> power available from the circuit's single 5U4 rectifier.) Before you >>> ask, no, the field coil itself isn't shorted (I'm thinking that they >>> fabricated this 'replica part' wrong.) >>> >>> I've looked through various old radio references/schematics, and all >>> I've come up with thus far is that a typical radio field coil speaker's >>> field coil might be expected to draw 3 to 5 watts or so (based on >>> voltages/ohms shown on various schematics, with the field coil either >>> wired as a choke, or sometimes as the pwr xfmr HV secondary center tap >>> return to ground, or connected later in the circuit at a lower B+.) >>> >>> So the question is: >>> >>> What's the greatest *known to be correct as designed* static power >>> consumption for the field coil of a 'big' field coil speaker? (...am I >>> indeed on track for 'typical' field coil power consumption?) >>> >>> FWIW I've played with the efficiency of this driver/design with lower >>> B+ on the coil; I've already determined that I can stick ~4500 ohms in >>> series with it, which will drop overall power consumption by 12 watts >>> and the coil is only consuming 10 watts then; it runs cooler (and I'm >>> happier), only loosing 4db acoustic output efficiency when I do that... >>> >>> TIA for any and all comments/data, >>> -Robert >>> QTS >>> http://www.Braught.com >>> >>> "Dirt, mice, or foreign matter can sometimes cause excessive leakage." >>> Triplett 630-PL 1959 owners manual pg 24 >>> >> >> > > Article: 331270 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: rt Subject: FYI: two 1930's movies about radio Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:05:12 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: There are a couple of movies at the Internet Archive that show how radio was broadcast in the 1930's. If you have a problem playing the movies, VLC media player is a freeware player that can handle a variety of media formats without the need of downloading codecs. "Back of the Mike" http://www.archive.org/details/Backofth1938 "On the Air" http://www.archive.org/details/OntheAir1937 VLC media player http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ (a help file with screenshots is located in the documentation section linked at the top of the web page) rt Article: 331271 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1142266092.841771.101560@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Art deco/nouveau/40's/50's cabinetry (for wood worker) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:17:22 GMT "RickH" wrote in message news:1142266092.841771.101560@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Hi, > > I occasionally visit here, and thought someone here may have come > across the resources I'm looking for.... > > I have a wood shop and am planning some furniture projects that > incorporate aspects seen in the cabinetry of vintage electronics > (1920's through 1950's). I've been Googleing around for ideas, > pictures, plans, etc. of old electronic cabinetry, but dont feel that > I've hit the jackpot yet. Can anyone recommend any books or web sites > that have numerous photos of floor-standing vintage hifi/radio/tv > cabinetry? This seems to be a lost art that ended with the demise of > console stereos in the 60's. Is there maybe a "reference" site or book > that covers this topic thoroughly? > > Thanks > The book "The Complete Guide to Antique Radios: Pre-War Consoles" pictures over 2500 console radios from the 1920's to the early 1940's. Maybe that book will help. http://froogle.google.com/froogle?q=The+Complete+Guide+to+Antique+Radios%3A++Pre-War+Consoles&hl=en&btnG=Search+Froogle jim menning Article: 331272 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Chong Ong Subject: Re: Art deco/nouveau/40's/50's cabinetry (for wood worker) References: <1142266092.841771.101560@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <_ehRf.61134$Ug4.25885@dukeread12> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:39:22 -0500 Hi Rick I got one maybe that will fit your books. This cabinet is 6 feet by 40" High by 28" Deep. Houses a 19" RCA TV. Got to be more than 400 lbs. Pictures in the binaries group. Chong RickH wrote: > Hi, > > I occasionally visit here, and thought someone here may have come > across the resources I'm looking for.... > > I have a wood shop and am planning some furniture projects that > incorporate aspects seen in the cabinetry of vintage electronics > (1920's through 1950's). I've been Googleing around for ideas, > pictures, plans, etc. of old electronic cabinetry, but dont feel that > I've hit the jackpot yet. Can anyone recommend any books or web sites > that have numerous photos of floor-standing vintage hifi/radio/tv > cabinetry? This seems to be a lost art that ended with the demise of > console stereos in the 60's. Is there maybe a "reference" site or book > that covers this topic thoroughly? > > Thanks > Article: 331273 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Chevrolet Radio,it works. Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 11:19:55 -0600 Message-ID: <28826-4415A9BB-878@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Bell South woman who lives next door to me bought an old Chevrolet El whatever it is fancy looking pickuo truck that dates back to somewhere in the mid 1950's.She wanted me to tug that pickup truck seventy something miles behind my raggity old van. I told her,Forget that! we will go to Natchez and you can rent a u haul trailer.We got back home and stuck a battery in that pickup truck,,, I told her,,, Try the radio.It still works,,, sort of anyway. Now my problem is,, How can I sweet talk her out of that nice Chevrolet pickup truck? cuhulin Article: 331274 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4415c65f$0$24373$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: OT: Help with batch file References: <1141745121.696326.294920@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <27679-440E585E-1648@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> <1141832335.854792.41560@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <3YSdneFnXaHQnpLZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@adelphia.com> Date: 13 Mar 2006 19:22:07 GMT Roger D Johnson wrote: > I need someone with Windows experience to help me with a > batch file to modify the registry on the fly. Please reply > directly. Kix scripting may do the trick. - Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 331275 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Smokey" Subject: Re: The Darnedest Hallicrafters - Part 2 Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:22:44 -0600 Message-ID: <121bhvnqq9h757f@corp.supernews.com> References: <1142207297.656300.54730@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> My personal eBay favorite line on vintage equipment is, "Worked the last time I used it." OF COURSE IT DID. Then after the puff of smoke and arc inside he STOPPED USING IT. Technically I guess that line is honest. Technically I guess I'd be an idiot to accept his line as a valid piece of information about the equipment. I am finding it best to avoid eBay alltogether anymore. When I got into it 6 years ago it was terrific but now it seems to be populated by con artists sellers "parsing" their descriptions and ripping you off with excessive, bogus shipping/charges. After 600 feedbacks on eBay (100% positive) I have abandoned eBay altogether and, in fact, in went back to buying and selling the old fashioned way, classifieds followed by a phone call or visit. It is so much less frustrating. "Caveat emptor" was always necessary, even in the eBay "good days," but now it is am imperative. Smokey. wrote in message news:1142207297.656300.54730@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Now, here's an interesting Halli 5R10A > > http://makeashorterlink.com/?Q291429CC > > 'It works', claims the seller - but look at the chassis pic closely and > observe - it has NO filter capacitors! > > Is this radio missing something or am I? > :-) > > Adrian > Article: 331276 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Smokey" Subject: Solder opinions? Kester 88? Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:25:24 -0600 Message-ID: <121bhvqo39q1n80@corp.supernews.com> Has anyone used Kester 88 for electrical work? I saw a posting on this newsgroup recommending it but have been unable to locate any. Has Kester replaced "88" with one of the other "non-44" types like "245," "285" or organic "331?" Or should I press on with my tried-and-true Kester 44? Smokey Article: 331277 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4415ca3f$0$24373$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: 8BQ5 tubes References: <1141947948.673977.18760@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Date: 13 Mar 2006 19:38:39 GMT jonfrum wrote: > I'm wondering where these tubes were originally used. I assume they > were in radios, but I've never seen a schematic using them. Equivalent to the European XL84, 600mA filament. European TV sets mostly used P series (300mA filament). I'd guess TV-sets designed for 110V operation would have used X series tubes. - Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 331278 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Matthew Davala" Subject: Dangerous Color Telivision? Message-ID: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:47:13 GMT Hello Everyone. Been awhile since I have poked around the newsgroup. I feel bad! I have a 1966 Zenith Color tv. Its still a 21 inch roundie. My girlfriend and I are using it as our daily TV(up to 4 or 5 hours some days). (I'm thankful to have such a understanding girlfriend) We've been using it every day since about september of last year. Best damn old TV I've used. I pray the flyback keeps going. Picture tube is still strong. It uses compactrons, but hey, its still vacuum tube technology . My question: My two cats love to sleep on top of the set while its on. I'm sure the top gets warm. Should I be concerned about X-rays emitting from the top of the shunt regulator? The HV rect is fully enclosed, and the shunt is basically surrounded except for the top. The top points to where my kittys bellys are. Are they in danger of X rays? If they are, could I glue sheet metal to the underside of the cabnits top? Thanks, Matt Davala, in Oregon. Article: 331279 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" Subject: What's so special about Western Electric? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:07:33 -0500 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6611140510 Wish I had a few of these in my junk box! Article: 331280 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 15:15:18 -0500 Your TV will make it easy to find your cats in the dark. Ken Matthew Davala wrote: > Hello Everyone. > > > Been awhile since I have poked around the newsgroup. I feel bad! > > I have a 1966 Zenith Color tv. Its still a 21 inch roundie. My > girlfriend and I are using it as our daily TV(up to 4 or 5 hours some days). > (I'm thankful to have such a understanding girlfriend) We've been using it > every day since about september of last year. Best damn old TV I've used. I > pray the flyback keeps going. Picture tube is still strong. It uses > compactrons, but hey, its still vacuum tube technology . > My question: My two cats love to sleep on top of the set while its on. I'm > sure the top gets warm. Should I be concerned about X-rays emitting from the > top of the shunt regulator? The HV rect is fully enclosed, and the shunt is > basically surrounded except for the top. The top points to where my kittys > bellys are. > > Are they in danger of X rays? If they are, could I glue sheet metal to the > underside of the cabnits top? > > Thanks, > Matt Davala, in Oregon. > > Article: 331281 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" Subject: TV IF alignment & Heath IG-57A marker gen Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:20:07 -0800 Message-ID: <4415d3f8$0$58079$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Just completed my forth old TV restoration. Looks like I'm getting hooked. The set I just finshed is an Admiral (24D1 chassis) which uses a 16" round, funnel type CRT circa 1950. Works OK, but the IF's certainly need to be aligned to clear up some grainyness in the picture. I've got a Heath IG-75A sweep/marker generator, but the IF frequencies it covers seem to be about double the IF used in the Admiral (approx 45 MC, but the TV uses about 22 MC). I'm missing the manual for the Heath, and maybe it'll explain how to align the IF's, but its not obvious to me. Does anyone here have any experience with the Heath sweep/marker generator? Of course if anyone has a manual (copy or original), for sale, let me know. Steve Article: 331282 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 12:28:49 -0800 Message-ID: <2478-4415D601-559@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> Matt: Maybe the cat will have some two headed kitties. Bill(oc) Article: 331283 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <121bhvqo39q1n80@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Solder opinions? Kester 88? Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 14:36:07 -0600 Message-ID: <4415d8b5$0$28294$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> There are two 1lb rolls on eBay right now in separate auctions. Cheap at the moment. Grab one and try it out, you have little to lose. It's 63/37 .062, good size and blend for working on tube radios. paul "Smokey" wrote in message news:121bhvqo39q1n80@corp.supernews.com... > Has anyone used Kester 88 for electrical work? I saw a posting on this > newsgroup recommending it but have been unable to locate any. Has Kester > replaced "88" with one of the other "non-44" types like "245," "285" or > organic "331?" > > Or should I press on with my tried-and-true Kester 44? > > Smokey > > *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 331284 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Matthew Davala" References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <1142282524.839742.319940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:02:16 GMT Hi, Great serious replys! Just kidding. I actually have my DVD player hooked up to the TV. I love to watch non copyrighted DVD's because they look "great". Copyrighted ones have crappy macrovision that comes through and there are some really annoying lines that show up at the top of the screen. I do have a modern surround system and pretty good speakers. Good enough to watch and listen to Lord of the Rings. All of the movies are non copyrighted and look wonderful on this old tube. I am 23 and I love my old tube tv. Although I do drool when I go to any store where they sell new TV's. I suppose I am stubborn about old technonogy. I'm taking some of these replys with a grain of salt. Is the radiation seriously that bad? Thanks, Matt D "Terry S" wrote in message news:1142282524.839742.319940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > How old are the cats? Maybe it doesn't matter..... > > Do you like the cats? > > Are they neutered? > > Wouldn't you need a sheet of lead to stop the radiation? > > I can't believe the picture on that old set is worth watching. Get > something new in HD. > > ;-) > > Terry. > Article: 331285 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: When did they start using rubber coated wire? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:02:37 -0500 "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:bqhb1216f9cgimhuamumvakmpe9j9ablfs@4ax.com... > Working on an Atwater Kent 217 made in 1933. All the wiring has a > rubber insulation that falls off when you look at it. I thought this > wiring was used much later, but 1933? > > I sure wish they had used cloth covered wire or something else. > Now I have to replace the speaker wires as they are shorting out and > I'm afraid that I'll end up having to rewire the whole darn chassis > since I know I'll be knocking wires bare as I try to feed new wires > through to the speaker. > > There's not enough room to try to patch the insulation, besides, I'd > be patching 90% or more by the time I got done bumping them as I > worked on them. > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom The Majestic 90 I restored over Christmas used rubber coated wires in the receiver, power supply package, and also the wires in the woven cloth covered harnesses for the power supply and loudspeaker were covered with rubber insulation. ALL BAD. Radio was made in 1929. Pete Article: 331286 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Solder opinions? Kester 88? From: noone@telus.com References: <121bhvqo39q1n80@corp.supernews.com> <4415d8b5$0$28294$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:03:31 GMT On 13-Mar-2006, "Paul Dietenberger" wrote: There are two 1lb rolls on eBay right now in separate auctions. Cheap at the moment. Grab one and try it out, you have little to lose. It's 63/37 .062, good size and blend for working on tube radios. Someone mentioned recently they use Ersin solder. There's a little "hole in the wall" one man radio/tv parts house close to me (in Canada) where I often stop looking for the odd unobtainiums. Often enough he can help me out. Last time I was in he had a mess of old Ersin solder he'd marked down (nice and shiny wire). I forget the price, but it must have been cheap or this frugal Scotsman would never have bought it :-). Here's what's on the end label of the spool I bought: Alloy Sn 40. Ersin multicore solder. 16 S.W.G., 0.64 ins., 1.6 mm. 270 flux 810/66. 1 Lb. Net. I don't know any more about it than what I've written down, but if anyone needs some, I could take a run down there and pick it up. Maybe the postage isn't worth it? (US$12.00 airmail to anywhere in the US) Haggis. (hamishg_at_telus_dot_net) Article: 331287 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 13:52:38 -0800 Message-ID: <5851-4415E9A6-507@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> References: Matt: The radiation hazard on those things was greatly overblown hype. I made a living servicing them thru the close of the tube era (retired in '86). No detrimental effects detectable so far (AFAIK). Your cat will probably survive intact too. It's always great when young folks are interested in vintage tube gear. '65-'66 was when auto-degauss became standard on color sets. Prior to that, they had to be degaussed whenever they were moved. Bill(oc) Article: 331288 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Radio Manufacturers of the 20's by Alan Douglas Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 16:03:42 -0600 Message-ID: <28826-4415EC3E-938@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: I'LL MAIL THEM TO YOU, YOU CAN SEND ME THE $100 PLUS SHIPPING WHEN THE ARRIVE. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 331289 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Copper Screen Wire Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:19:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "Bruce Mercer" writes: >"Tim Mullen" wrote in message >news:dut06s$l6p$1@reader2.panix.com... >> Bruce, baby, we gotta get you hooked on old fans. >Tim, you 'gotta' know me better than that by now :-). I do have a couple >nice antique ceiling fans and some BB table fans. I did know you were a Motorhead :), just wasn't sure how many antique air movers were populating the palace. >I'm hoping you will get >generous and send me that double whizzer thing you've got.......... for >Xmas;-)... Heh. That's a gyrofan, generically. Made by three manufacturers: Jandus (which became the much less euphonious Adams Bagnall) was first with the "Gyrofan", then Westinghouse came out with the "Gyrating Fan". Finally Emerson had their monster "Twin Duplex Rotary", which is the rarest of the three. >if I have any house left by that time. More severe weather twice >yesterday, this morning at 4:00AM and supposedly two more heavy duty >episodes before it quiets down Monday afternoon. Fight back! If there's wind outside, counter it with your own wind inside by turning on all the fans. Seriously, hope you and your house made it through and your roof didn't suffer any more arboreal attacks. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331290 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:21:19 -0400 Message-ID: <121bs2s920mg762@corp.supernews.com> References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <1142282524.839742.319940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Matthew Davala wrote: > > I'm taking some of these replys with a grain of salt. Is the radiation > seriously that bad? > > Thanks, > Matt D If it were, many of us would not be here to talk about it and the cat population would have been decimated in the 60s-70s. OTOH, think of how many people and cats AREN'T here~! oooooh! :) -Glowing Bill Article: 331291 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142085841.337915.31740@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1219nqh12b4hee@corp.supernews.com> <1142239361.735282.207510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: "Spammer "66 fourdoor" finished. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:30:41 -0500 "Jon" wrote in message news:YtdRf.17688$jf2.13752@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Yeah, the AM Audio bandwidth reduction sucks. We dropped both of ours to > 6khz. I can tell the difference on a few of my radios, namely the Philco > 42-1010 and the RCA International console. I did an A-B test of our AM music > station with my car radio and a couple boombox type portables and couldn't > hear the difference. > are symmetrical. > > Jon > > "Steven_" wrote in message 6 kHz would be liveable, except for the digital hiss riding above it. What is the latest rumor concerning AM going dark and everyone going fully digital? What are they going to do with the 12-kHz gap that will be left inbetween the sideband skirts? Pete Article: 331292 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: "Spammer "66 fourdoor" finished. Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:34:57 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142085841.337915.31740@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1219nqh12b4hee@corp.supernews.com> <1142239361.735282.207510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:IgnRf.88954$bF.38459@dukeread07... > > "Jon" wrote in message > news:YtdRf.17688$jf2.13752@twister.nyroc.rr.com... >> Yeah, the AM Audio bandwidth reduction sucks. We dropped both of ours to >> 6khz. I can tell the difference on a few of my radios, namely the Philco >> 42-1010 and the RCA International console. I did an A-B test of our AM > music >> station with my car radio and a couple boombox type portables and >> couldn't >> hear the difference. >> > are symmetrical. >> >> Jon >> >> "Steven_" wrote in message > > 6 kHz would be liveable, except for the digital hiss riding above it. > > What is the latest rumor concerning AM going dark and everyone > going fully digital? What are they going to do with the 12-kHz gap > that will be left inbetween the sideband skirts? I believe that 6KHz is total bandwidth, not audio bandwidth. In other words, 3 KHz of audio. Seems I read that this is what Clear Channel was doing with their stations. That finally makes them sound worse than a telephone, which has a 3300 Hz audio bandpass.. Article: 331293 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Smokey" Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:36:02 -0600 Message-ID: <121c0lntd5pnj8c@corp.supernews.com> References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> Mathew,,, Isn't it tedious to ask a sincere question and get so many idiotic comments from those who believe they are comics? I used to be in engineering of an appliance manufacturer and spent considerable time working in the EMF/RF aspects on physiology. I am also an animal lover. If you value you pets you will not permit them to high field exposure to not only the x-ray emissions but also the 60 cycle fields that have been linked to leukemia and cancer (FELV?). If you value your own health you will view the TV from at least 10 feet. May I recommend http://www.patientsnci.org/3032promometast.htm If things were half as safe as the FDA, FTC etc etc would like us to THINK they are cancer would not be the problem it is. God knows unless your eating organics you should probably be shopping around for a good deal on a blood glucose monitor. It's all about money. And our society is a gullible collection of simple minded idiots. Be careful. It's you and your pets' health, which "they" don't care a thing about. Smokey "Matthew Davala" wrote in message news:5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06... > Hello Everyone. > > > Been awhile since I have poked around the newsgroup. I feel bad! > > I have a 1966 Zenith Color tv. Its still a 21 inch roundie. My > girlfriend and I are using it as our daily TV(up to 4 or 5 hours some days). > (I'm thankful to have such a understanding girlfriend) We've been using it > every day since about september of last year. Best damn old TV I've used. I > pray the flyback keeps going. Picture tube is still strong. It uses > compactrons, but hey, its still vacuum tube technology . > My question: My two cats love to sleep on top of the set while its on. I'm > sure the top gets warm. Should I be concerned about X-rays emitting from the > top of the shunt regulator? The HV rect is fully enclosed, and the shunt is > basically surrounded except for the top. The top points to where my kittys > bellys are. > > Are they in danger of X rays? If they are, could I glue sheet metal to the > underside of the cabnits top? > > Thanks, > Matt Davala, in Oregon. > > Article: 331294 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142085841.337915.31740@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1219nqh12b4hee@corp.supernews.com> <1142239361.735282.207510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: "Spammer "66 fourdoor" finished. Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:05:30 GMT "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:dv4va9$l5o$1@news2.kornet.net... > > I believe that 6KHz is total bandwidth, not audio bandwidth. In other > words, 3 KHz of audio. Seems I read that this is what Clear Channel was > doing with their stations. That finally makes them sound worse than a > telephone, which has a 3300 Hz audio bandpass.. > > > No, it's a 6khz low pass audio filter. We basically modified our Optimods >from 10khz down to 6khz. Jon Article: 331295 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142085841.337915.31740@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: "Spammer "66 fourdoor" finished. Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:05:31 GMT "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:Y5Kdnft6L7ycnovZnZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@sigecom.net... > >>> I'm sorry that cheap 78's and 8 tracks are that important to you. > > 'Some' 78's are hardly cheap by any stretch of the imagination these days. > > Bruce > Nor are the cartridges. I went out in search of a standard mount magnetic cartridge with 3 mil needle today, and found the cheapest to be $80. Through mail order, I can get a 78 tip for $35 for my Ortofon Concorde Pro cartridge, but was hoping to have a separate cartridge dedicated to 78's so all I'd have to do is swap the headshells. This is for copying to CD. I play the record at 45 and resample it in Adobe Audition. Then I can clean up any pops, clicks, and hiss. For everyday playing, I use my RCA International console with ceramic cartridge. I hope to have the beam-of-light pickup working and the changer in my Philco running at the proper speed by the end of summer. I've only been working on it once in a while lately. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/ and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 331296 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Antique Radio Auction - Upstate NY Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:16:18 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "Jon" writes: >Every year, a local auction house here in upstate New York holds an antique >radio and ugly furniture radio. There are typically hundreds of radios and http://bostwickauctions.com/images/march%2018%20photos/3-18%20ugly%206.jpg That's... um, that's... uh... wow. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331297 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: What have we here? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:28:33 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1142178799.791300.111520@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142234218.434176.193520@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Steve Reeves wrote: > RAR+P: > > After another review of the website I have discovered that you can > access and preveiw some of this website without paying first. use this > link: > http://www.radiomuseum.org/ > and not the one that was posted earlier in Georg's Post: > "http://www.radiomuseum.org/dsp_treffer.cfm?Company_Id=2007" > I was mistaken and thought you had to pay the $25.00 first without even > a preview of what was available. > > I AM SORRY. Steven, I AM _VERY_ SORRY ... I did not realize that vistors are not able to to follow the link I've posted. > Now Back into the Corner I go. The corner is MINE (my fault)! > Peace out. Will overcome. Best Regards, Georg Article: 331298 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <1142282524.839742.319940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <121bs2s920mg762@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <8goRf.17860$jf2.1016@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:38:28 GMT When I was a teen I cleaned a dentist office at night. I used to play with mercury and the X-ray machine. I figured out how to use it and took pictures of my fingers. Then in my TV shop I found that passing the 6.3v of a transformer through a puddle of mercury produced some really cool colors in the arc. I spent a lot of time behind crt's working on TV sets. My father was a painter and I would make putty out of white lead and linseed oil with some Japan driers. I am now 56 but who knows, maybe it will come back to haunt me someday. So far I have been lucky I guess. - exray - wrote: > Matthew Davala wrote: > > >> >> I'm taking some of these replys with a grain of salt. Is the radiation >> seriously that bad? >> >> Thanks, >> Matt D > > If it were, many of us would not be here to talk about it and the cat > population would have been decimated in the 60s-70s. > OTOH, think of how many people and cats AREN'T here~! > oooooh! > :) > > -Glowing Bill Article: 331299 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: "Spammer "66 fourdoor" finished. Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 02:03:15 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142085841.337915.31740@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1219nqh12b4hee@corp.supernews.com> <1142239361.735282.207510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Jon wrote: > No, it's a 6khz low pass audio filter. We basically modified our Optimods > from 10khz down to 6khz. IMHO "Opti"-mod without De-"Opti"mod on the receiver side is Scrap-mod, independent if used on AM or FM. It's like looking TV 4:3 blown up to 16:9 or with MPEG artifacts. Am I wrong? May be. Excuse my 2 ct. Kind Regards, Georg Article: 331300 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:08:33 GMT They did emit excessive exrays, I would keep the cat off the top when running. I used my 66 RCA daily up to 92, I still have it and it still works but the screen mask glue has deteriorated and there appear to be no good tubes available that have good screens. If you ever need parts I parted out a 66 Zenith once and still have the stuff. Keith "Matthew Davala" wrote in message news:5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06... > Hello Everyone. > > > Been awhile since I have poked around the newsgroup. I feel bad! > > I have a 1966 Zenith Color tv. Its still a 21 inch roundie. My > girlfriend and I are using it as our daily TV(up to 4 or 5 hours some > days). (I'm thankful to have such a understanding girlfriend) We've been > using it every day since about september of last year. Best damn old TV > I've used. I pray the flyback keeps going. Picture tube is still strong. > It uses compactrons, but hey, its still vacuum tube technology . > My question: My two cats love to sleep on top of the set while its on. I'm > sure the top gets warm. Should I be concerned about X-rays emitting from > the top of the shunt regulator? The HV rect is fully enclosed, and the > shunt is basically surrounded except for the top. The top points to where > my kittys bellys are. > > Are they in danger of X rays? If they are, could I glue sheet metal to the > underside of the cabnits top? > > Thanks, > Matt Davala, in Oregon. > Article: 331301 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "k35454" References: <1142288897.717907.292920@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 1930s-40s Radios with remote controls Message-ID: <%RoRf.4$1w5.2@newsfe13.phx> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 17:19:11 -0800 "wagil" wrote in message news:1142288897.717907.292920@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... Can anyone tell me where to find info about the 1930s era broadcast radios that used a remote control for tuning, etc? I have seen the internet sites by Philco and Zenith, but need more info. Any help/info/clues appreciated Wayne Remote control Philco sets were purchased by people of means who often tended to cluster in the same apartment building. I recall reading of the hilarity that ensued when the signal from one remote control was picked up by adjacent receivers. k35454. Article: 331302 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142085841.337915.31740@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1219nqh12b4hee@corp.supernews.com> <1142239361.735282.207510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: "Spammer "66 fourdoor" finished. Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 01:30:02 GMT "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> wrote in message news:dv54oj$lga$00$1@news.t-online.com... > > IMHO "Opti"-mod without De-"Opti"mod on the receiver side is > Scrap-mod, > independent if used on AM or FM. > > It's like looking TV 4:3 blown up to 16:9 or with MPEG artifacts. > > Am I wrong? May be. > > Excuse my 2 ct. > > Kind Regards, > Georg > > Yeah - it's a glorified compressor-limiter designed to squash the dynamic range of the material to make it sound louder than the competitor. I personally don't like it. On the AM's, we are not nearly as aggressive as the FM's. The sports talker is set to keep the voices up above the noise to try to get a few more miles out of the signal. The music AM is set to bring up the quieter passages, but not at the expense of oppressive limiting. Jon Article: 331303 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Radio Manufacturers of the 20's by Alan Douglas Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:41:54 -0600 Message-ID: <18781-44161F62-851@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: WHAT IS YOUR ADDESS? CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 331304 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Radio Manufacturers of the 20's by Alan Douglas Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 19:42:16 -0600 Message-ID: <18781-44161F78-852@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: WHAT IS YOUR ADDRESS? CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 331305 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <1142282524.839742.319940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <121bs2s920mg762@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:21:05 -0500 "- exray -" wrote in message news:121bs2s920mg762@corp.supernews.com... > Matthew Davala wrote: > > > > > > I'm taking some of these replys with a grain of salt. Is the radiation > > seriously that bad? > > > > Thanks, > > Matt D > > If it were, many of us would not be here to talk about it and the cat > population would have been decimated in the 60s-70s. > OTOH, think of how many people and cats AREN'T here~! > oooooh! > :) > > -Glowing Bill Bill What is all this talk about you zapping cats? Pete Article: 331306 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Message-ID: <%VpRf.4458$Bj7.1302@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 02:31:23 GMT The cage can certainly help with the high voltage, but the original reason for installing it was x radiation. If you go back and look at television books from the 1940's, you'll find the subject explained in detail. One book in particular was BASIC TELEVISION By Grob, I believe the second edition, published around 1948. I don't have this book anymore, wish I did -- it's interesting because it it fully explains the RCA 630 TS, and also covers the CBS color-wheel system. Yes, the book was re-published several times; I have a 7th Edition from the 70's -- hardly the same book. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:grednbYOe4hrvIvZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Back around 1964-65, there was some news regarding the fact >> that color TV sets could emit dangerous x-rays. Of course ANY >> television, be it color or black and white, can emit x radiation, >> and this is why the flyback circuitry is mounted inside the cage. > > The flyback circuitry is in a cage to reduce the chance of electric shock. > > TVs did not start emitting significant X-rays until the high voltage was > boosted to 20K and above for color TVs. > > > > > > > > Article: 331307 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:38:49 +0900 Message-ID: References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <1142282524.839742.319940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:FKednfucN96VvIvZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> All of the movies are non copyrighted and look wonderful >> on this old tube. I am 23 and I love my old tube tv. > > I can understand people enjoying tube audio equipment (for any number of > reasons), including radios. But tube TVs? It's not like this is a CTC-100, > or the first Westinghouse set. It's hardly a "classic" TV. > > A modern set, with a flat faceplate, line doubling, and image enhancement, > will produce a grossly superior picture. And that's an understatement. I'll have to disagree on this one Bill. With modern cable and satellite television, the relative lack of bandwidth on an old tube television could only make it look better by masking some of the artifacting.. Article: 331308 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 11:46:42 +0900 Message-ID: References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <1142301700.556195.74030@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "philsvintageradios" wrote in message news:1142301700.556195.74030@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > I am not sure how many years tube color TV's were available for, but it > couldn't have been all that many. I had one a couple of years back and > had to get rid of it . I donated it to charity , but I figured it > probably made a b-line for the trash as soon as I drove off. Color TV's were made in all-tube lineups from 1953 through 1969 that I know of. The first solid state set (a failure, by the way) was the 1967 (IIRC) Motorola Quasar. The next year they went back to using tubes for horizontal and vertical oscillator and output circuits. Article: 331309 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <1142226239.878410.52070@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <121b3gafp5gcl03@corp.supernews.com> <1142294155.391600.319890@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 'Most Powerful' Field Coil? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 02:50:57 GMT The pictures on the binaries are quite informative. I never knew there was anything commercially available like that. This is a great group to be part of. Thanks, Paul "Jiri Placek" wrote in message news:1142294155.391600.319890@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com... >I have French 1936 Su-Ga A6 radio with speaker with two filed coils, > one across the B+ voltage and the other one as a choke between filter > capacitors. > > Jiri Placek > Boyertown, PA > Article: 331310 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: spamless <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> Message-ID: <2bqRf.5992$wQ6.5869@bignews6.bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:52:49 -0500 John Stone wrote: > > > On 3/13/06 7:35 PM, in article > N5pRf.4448$Bj7.969@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net, "Gary Tayman" > wrote: > > >>The "fix" for the x radiation problem was not in redesigning the circuitry, >>but in putting an interlock on the cage to prevent the set from operating >>with it removed. > > > The problem was more complicated than this. I think you're forgetting about > the 6BK4 voltage regulator. Original versions of this tube used regular > glass. If the anode voltage was adjusted too high, it was indeed possible to > get substantial x radiation off this tube-especially from the bottom of the > cabinet. The leakage could work its way through the chassis via vent holes > and the tube socket. It was bad enough to that there were warnings at the > time not to let your kids lie in front of the tv with their legs spread > underneath. The 6BK4A substantially reduced the problem by using heavily > leaded glass. How serious the problem really was is anyone's guess, but it > was considered enough of an issue at the time that changing out 6BK4's and > carefully setting the anode voltage was required during any service call. > OK someone who got CLOSE to the truth. The xray danger was from several things. 1: picture tube running with hi voltage set too high. Shouldn't be above 25kv. 2: Picture tubes were usually surrounded by a shield. Heathkits had a chassis surrounding the crt that doubled as an xray shield. 3: most of the time these were SOFT xrays with a limited range. Only when the hv was set too high could the crt emit dangerous levels. 4: The worst problem was the hv regulator tubes, not the hv rectifier. There was a batch of 6BK4's (and a few other types) that were defective. These were beam triode tubes and the plate had to be in perfect alignment with the cathode. Some of these tubes had the plate mounted at a slight angle (not perfectly inline with the cathode) which would cause the electron beam from the cathode to strike the OUTSIDE of the plate. Xrays would then be emitted at right angles to the plate, or out the SIDES of the tube. When the tube was made correctly all of the electron beam went up into the inside of the plate tube and any xrays were emitted DOWN into the base of the tube. IIRC the bad tubes were recalled by the makers. Article: 331311 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Matthew Davala" References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 03:08:37 GMT Thanks everybody for your comments. I'll keep the Kittys off the TV. I've almost brainwashed myself to really enjoy the picture I get from the TV. Its definately washed out compared to anything new, and the colors aren't as sharp. But its all vacuum tubes. Again Thanks very much! Matthew "Matthew Davala" wrote in message news:5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06... > Hello Everyone. > > > Been awhile since I have poked around the newsgroup. I feel bad! > > I have a 1966 Zenith Color tv. Its still a 21 inch roundie. My > girlfriend and I are using it as our daily TV(up to 4 or 5 hours some > days). (I'm thankful to have such a understanding girlfriend) We've been > using it every day since about september of last year. Best damn old TV > I've used. I pray the flyback keeps going. Picture tube is still strong. > It uses compactrons, but hey, its still vacuum tube technology . > My question: My two cats love to sleep on top of the set while its on. I'm > sure the top gets warm. Should I be concerned about X-rays emitting from > the top of the shunt regulator? The HV rect is fully enclosed, and the > shunt is basically surrounded except for the top. The top points to where > my kittys bellys are. > > Are they in danger of X rays? If they are, could I glue sheet metal to the > underside of the cabnits top? > > Thanks, > Matt Davala, in Oregon. > Article: 331312 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 03:09:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <121c0lntd5pnj8c@corp.supernews.com> In <121c0lntd5pnj8c@corp.supernews.com> "Smokey" writes: > If you value you pets you will not permit them to high field exposure >to not only the x-ray emissions but also the 60 cycle fields that have been >linked to leukemia and cancer (FELV?). Nuts. 60Hz doesn't have enough Planck energy to crack molecular bonds, the only known mechanism for initiating cancer. > If things were half as safe as the FDA, FTC etc etc would like us to >THINK they are cancer would not be the problem it is. By the time control subjects -- laboratory mice that lived their entire lives in a sterile enviroment and were never subjected to any nasty compounds -- die of old age, they're often full of tumors. Cancer happens because our immune system isn't up to the task of properly repairing hits on our chromosones. It's also the reason we age. We're a pretty poor design in many aspects. That's not to say enviromental conditions don't exacerbate this. You're certainly correct that until we can do something about our primitive immune system, it's best to try and eliminate unnecessary hazards. Therein lies the rub. Unless you want to sit in the corner and not touch anything your whole life, there will come a time when there's a tradeoff as to acceptable risk. >And our society is a gullible collection of simple minded idiots. I agree with you there. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331313 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 03:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <1142282524.839742.319940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In "Brenda Ann" writes: >"William Sommerwerck" wrote in message >news:FKednfucN96VvIvZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> A modern set, with a flat faceplate, line doubling, and image enhancement, >> will produce a grossly superior picture. And that's an understatement. >I'll have to disagree on this one Bill. With modern cable and satellite >television, the relative lack of bandwidth on an old tube television could >only make it look better by masking some of the artifacting.. When dealing with a composite source, the huge advantage of a modern set is the comb filter. Many sets now have 3D frame-based filtering, and chorma/luma seperation has gotten very good indeed. Blows away any vintage set. I know what you mean about delivery systems that have the living daylights compressed out of them. People look like they're made out of clay. The high frequencies remain, though, so I'm not so sure a gentle roll-off would make things look better. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331314 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 03:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <1142282524.839742.319940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In spiced-ham?No@big.isp (Don) writes: >Are not the colors better in old sets? My understanding is that the red >phosphors were "redder", not so orange, in the older sets; the new sets >use brighter, but lower fidelity phosphors. I've heard that, too. I don't have any first-hand viewing experience, but due to the vastly inferior chroma channels a saturated red object may very well be truer to the orignal hue in a vintage set but will look like a big, fuzzy blob of truer color. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331315 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Golfball Size Hail - two days in a row :-\ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:47:52 -0600 Message-ID: <23731-44163CE8-16@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <1142306451.322346.223010@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> or Brother Stair to declare a three millimeter tsunami. cuhulin Article: 331316 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <1142276333.599602.306850@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Golfball Size Hail - two days in a row :-\ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:00:11 -0600 "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1142276333.599602.306850@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Fun fun fun weekend here in Missouri. 9 deaths reported and homes > damaged and destroyed all over the state. We had a hailstorm Sat. that > dimpled my truck while we were 40 miles away (thankfully the other car > was with us and the third was in the garage). Then again Sunday > afternoon...I was in the house that time, looking helplessly out the > window as the hail stones got larger and larger for 10 minutes. They > finally gave out at a size bigger than golfballs but smaller than > baseballs. My truck was out in it AGAIN (duh...but on the other hand > how many times have you seen two major hailstorms on consecutive days? > I just did not believe it would happen again). The stones were blowing > sideways and smacking the house. This time it cracked a 2-month old > winshield on the truck and put holes in the siding on two sides of the > house. Many nearby lost windows, somehow we didn't. We didn't do so > bad, considering. At least we are basically intact and so is the > house. Many were not so fortunate across KS, MO and IL. > > Tox > Here in Manitoba a few years ago we got some major hail like that... left entire dealers' lots full of dimpled cars, to say nothing of the privately owned vehciles.. It led to a lot of speculation; that if dimples help golf balls fly further, what would they do for vehicles... Be safe, you all. Latest death toll I saw on the wire service was "at least" ten. Nelson in Winnipeg (Where we only have to deal with snow and cold right now.) Article: 331317 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" Subject: what do you do? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:16:06 -0600 Local antique mall had for several years, a CGE K106 radio, with the darndest cabinet I've ever seen, but 'way over my mark at $450. I dug up the schematic etc. (think it crosses to RCA R90), and with permission tucked it in the back, thinking if I can't take and restore it, someone else will have a better chance. They also kindly allowed me to take some photos of it. Well, I got a call tonight... guy bought it, but wants to "build something else into it". He wouldn't tell me what. At least he offered me the chassis and speaker, for $25. The choice seems to be, take the chassis or it'll go into the dumpster. Take a look at the photo on abpr. Nelson Article: 331318 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:00:50 -0600 Message-ID: <23728-44163FF2-914@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> I bought a new Zenith wooden cabinet floor model 21 inch screen color tv set (it's sitting in my front bedroom/junk room right now) when I got out of the Army in October 1964,I paid over $700.00 for that piece of junk.That tv set has been back and forth to Wink Radio and TV Repair shop more times than it was worth.I own a lot of old Zenith radios I bought over the years dirt cheap.I will never buy a new Zenith anything ever again.Zenith,,, over rated and over priced.RCA is still the best. cuhulin Article: 331319 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <5851-4415E9A6-507@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> <7vKdneK3hpwn34vZRVn-jw@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:15:51 GMT "Tom Adkins" wrote in message news:7vKdneK3hpwn34vZRVn-jw@comcast.com... > Bill Sheppard wrote: >> Matt: >> The radiation hazard on those things was greatly overblown >> hype. I made a living servicing them thru the close of the tube era >> (retired in '86). No detrimental effects detectable so far (AFAIK). Your >> cat will probably survive intact too. > > Except for that third arm. It comes in handy working on TVs though. ;) >> .. they had to be degaussed whenever they were >> moved. >> > > Really? Why was that? I was just a little tyke in those days. I do recall > separate degaussing coils and assumed they needed to be used at times. You could use a Weller (transformer type - not resistive heating) soldering gun too. I did it in some repair shops. Worked relatively well. PP Article: 331320 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:18:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <5851-4415E9A6-507@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> <7vKdneK3hpwn34vZRVn-jw@comcast.com> In <7vKdneK3hpwn34vZRVn-jw@comcast.com> Tom Adkins writes: >Bill Sheppard wrote: >> >>.. they had to be degaussed whenever they were >> moved. > Really? Why was that? I was just a little tyke in those days. I do recall separate >degaussing coils and assumed they needed to be used at times. Earth's magnetic field. In some of our color-correct film-tape transfer rooms there's a trolley on top of the colorist's console that slides back and forth to center either a standard definition or high definition monitor (Most of our rooms use the dual-standard monitors, but not everyone likes them.). The monitor is only moving two to three feet, but that's enough to throw off the alignment. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331321 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <1142304901.404630.315660@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Variac Recommendations? Message-ID: <0zrRf.1619$Vb.1048@trndny01> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 04:23:24 GMT I'm looking at a flyer with a $70 10 amp Tenma from MCM. #72-110. PP www.mcminone.com "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1142304901.404630.315660@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > Well, the time has come for a new variac. Old one is either lost, > sold, or I just don't know where the heck I put it. Any > recommendations? Just need it for basic old radio repair. Right now > looking at a PHILMORE 48-1205 available at our local Frye's Electronics > in the Chicago area. Any other suggestions would be appreciated. > Thanks, GB. > Article: 331322 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Roger Blake Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <1142282524.839742.319940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: 14 Mar 2006 04:25:24 GMT In article , William Sommerwerck wrote: > A modern set, with a flat faceplate, line doubling, and image enhancement, Sounds like garbage, who needs it. I'm perfectly happy with my RCA New Vista B&W tube console set. (If you want to live like the Jetsons, that's your affair, it won't happen in my house.) -- Roger Blake (Subtract 10 for email.) Article: 331323 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: 1930s-40s Radios with remote controls Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 23:29:02 -0500 Message-ID: <121chkhc1casf43@corp.supernews.com> References: <1142288897.717907.292920@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:bMOdnXz0wakmlovZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Pretty sure Stromberg- Carlson offered it too. For sure Stromberg Carlson- you saw one no doubt at the last Rochester show you and I went to, and also there was one for sale at Kutztown this past Spring. It has this somewhat homely triangular corner cabinet for the speaker. Also, there's Grunow- http://home.att.net/~yonny/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-13361.html John H. Article: 331324 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Keith Subject: GE 7-4880A Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 21:34:18 -0700 Message-ID: Can anyone give me the year this radio was first introduced? Also, has anyone successfully found a way to deal with the unreliable pushbutton switches? I've got an approah I want to try to replace the original switches with some modern enclosed tactile switches and I think I can leave the exterior appearance the same, but I'd like to hear if others have solved this problem area on this radio. John Keith kd0gd@juno.com Article: 331325 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Golfball Size Hail - two days in a row :-\ Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:36:01 -0600 Message-ID: <2813-44164831-1224@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: Last week,we got some "weather" here,including dime size hail.The Nissan factory about twenty something miles North of me has some sonic sound cannons (whatever they are called) they use to bust up hail stones so they wont mess up them new vehicles out there in their parking lot. cuhulin Article: 331326 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Antique Radio Auction - Upstate NY Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 05:01:23 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In Tom Adkins writes: >Tim Mullen wrote: >> http://bostwickauctions.com/images/march%2018%20photos/3-18%20ugly%206.jpg >> >> That's... um, that's... uh... wow. >> > Oh man, I recall that my aunt had that same (or VERY similar)ummm....thing.... >mounted on the wall above her sofa some time in the late 60s or so. It was fugly then, >now it's...it's....well............how much is scrap going for these days? "You kids better be good or you're going in my will!!!" -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331327 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <441666A3.F14BAD25@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Antique Radio Auction - Upstate NY References: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 06:47:25 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > > "You kids better be good or you're going in my will!!!" Does it come with an airsick bag? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331328 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Anyone got an SX-25 that needs some TLC? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:49:51 +0900 Message-ID: -- 5 decades of great music in the top genres, and more. Full Spectrum Radio http://www.live365.com/stations/fullspectrum?play Article: 331329 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Variac Recommendations? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:33:24 -0400 Message-ID: <121dag1a5sj5t08@corp.supernews.com> References: <1142304901.404630.315660@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <0zrRf.1619$Vb.1048@trndny01> <1142335829.411150.176420@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> RadioGary wrote: > Which raises another question, is there a minimum amperage rating I > should be looking for on one of these? The one I was looking at, not > this one advertised, was about five amps. Seems kind of low, doesn't > it? > That will work just fine for most any radio imaginable. The common tube table radios draw less than an amp, a Huge Console might reach 2 amps. -Bill Article: 331330 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <23728-44163FF2-914@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 12:50:33 GMT On the other hand, I've got a Heathkit, which is actually a Zenith System 3, that's almost 25 years old. It's still in our living room and we still use it every day. Oh, I figure someday soon I'll buy a big screen HD set, but not because there's anything wrong with this one. In fact I love the big console cabinet. Zenith did indeed have a reliability problem back in the 1960's. After everyone else had migrated to using printed circuitry, Zenith kept advertising their "hand wired" chassis. Like many new things, the public, along with technicians, didn't care for the new PCB design, thinking it was cheap. But the result, while other sets were becoming more reliable, Zenith was lost in the 50's and was plagued by bad solder connections everywhere. It even became a joke, to "kick the Zenith" to make it work. If one were to totally rebuild and resolder the set from the ground up, they actually weren't bad units. Zenith had another problem during the late 1980's, with their picture tubes. The CRT would fail, not a matter of if but when, and that was the end of the set. Now THERE's one to hang onto, that'll be rare someday -- just find a good CRT for it. Zenith's saving grace, and probably the only reason the name is still around, was their being purchased by Lucky Goldstar. It's a bit of a shame that the last American company to build TV sets fell off in this way. Now it all comes from the far east; but that's another subject. Of course my Heathkit, I've had people try to tell me the set is foreign made -- I tell them it is definitely American; I built it in my own home! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:23728-44163FF2-914@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net... >I bought a new Zenith wooden cabinet floor model 21 inch screen color tv > set (it's sitting in my front bedroom/junk room right now) when I got > out of the Army in October 1964,I paid over $700.00 for that piece of > junk.That tv set has been back and forth to Wink Radio and TV Repair > shop more times than it was worth.I own a lot of old Zenith radios I > bought over the years dirt cheap.I will never buy a new Zenith anything > ever again.Zenith,,, over rated and over priced.RCA is still the best. > cuhulin > Article: 331331 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Variac Recommendations? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:07:38 -0600 Message-ID: <24187-4416CE2A-1056@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <1142340095.682782.304710@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> I FIND THAT NOTHING BEATS A VARIAC FOR SETTING FILAMENT VOLTAGE ON A PORTABLE RADIO WHETHER ITS WHEN REPLACING A TUBE RECTIFIER WITH A SS DIODE OR REPLACING THE FILAMENT SERIES RESISTORS THAT HAVE CHANGED VALUES. I OF COURSE USE A "SLO-START" IN CONJUNCTION WITH IT. I USE A CLAMP-ON AMMETER WITH A 5 TO 1 RATIO ON THE INPUT FOR LOW CURRENT READINGS. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 331332 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <1142340095.682782.304710@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> <24187-4416CE2A-1056@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Variac Recommendations? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 07:46:51 -0700 circuit specialist has this one.... http://store.yahoo.com/webtronics/ensavat.html "Bill Turner" wrote in message news:24187-4416CE2A-1056@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net... >I FIND THAT NOTHING BEATS A VARIAC FOR SETTING FILAMENT VOLTAGE ON A > PORTABLE RADIO WHETHER ITS WHEN REPLACING A TUBE RECTIFIER WITH A SS > DIODE OR REPLACING THE FILAMENT SERIES RESISTORS THAT HAVE CHANGED > VALUES. I OF COURSE USE A "SLO-START" IN CONJUNCTION WITH IT. I USE A > CLAMP-ON AMMETER WITH A 5 TO 1 RATIO ON THE INPUT FOR LOW CURRENT > READINGS. > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. > > > > Article: 331333 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: Golfball Size Hail - two days in a row :-\ References: <2813-44164831-1224@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:00:40 -0700 Really? Sound cannons? I'd like to know more about this. Got any further info or links? Same principle as lithotripsy for kidney stones, I would guess. But given that any given hailstone is in flight for only a few seconds on each descent, I would imagine that they have to fire off the cannon almost continuously. Must annoy the hell out of the already-stressed-out neighbors, though. Probably sounds like southern Maine on the first day of deer season. Bill Jeffrey ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > Last week,we got some "weather" here,including dime size hail.The Nissan > factory about twenty something miles North of me has some sonic sound > cannons (whatever they are called) they use to bust up hail stones so > they wont mess up them new vehicles out there in their parking lot. > cuhulin > Article: 331334 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <2813-44164831-1224@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Golfball Size Hail - two days in a row :-\ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:00:57 GMT "Bill Jeffrey" wrote in message news:ATARf.8669$z82.5004@fed1read07... > > Really? Sound cannons? I'd like to know more about this. Got any further info or > links? Let's see. Google. nissan +hail http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=nissan+%2Bhail Yep, the neighbors hate it. jim menning Article: 331335 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: GE 7-4880A Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:10:29 GMT "John Keith" wrote in message news:hohc125fuh3tb54315k1g0137bdg6ecekd@4ax.com... > > Can anyone give me the year this radio was first introduced? > The Sam's Photofact for that radio came out in January of 1981, so that should be close. > Also, has anyone successfully found a way to deal with the unreliable > pushbutton switches? A previous thread here alluded to a solution. http://tinyurl.com/nnalb Perhaps you could contact Robert Casey to see if he has the info readily available. I didn't see it with a quick glance of his website. http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/9178/ I think I still have a couple of these buried in storage with defective switches. jim menning Article: 331336 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Keith Subject: Re: GE 7-4880A Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 09:26:15 -0700 Message-ID: <09rd129dn0qml1gp8dol9q4j2mg4ksghmt@4ax.com> References: Jim, >The Sam's Photofact for that radio came out in January of 1981, so that should be >close. Thanks for the reference. >> Also, has anyone successfully found a way to deal with the unreliable >> pushbutton switches? > >A previous thread here alluded to a solution. http://tinyurl.com/nnalb I saw that info after doing a web search (which turns up precious few references to this radio) I guess I'm skeptical of the long term reliability of this method. I'm considering completely replacing the board that holds the original switches with a board that holds some enclosed tactile switches. Reliability of these switches should last my lifetime. I think there is enough space to do this and keep the exterior appearance identical to the original. Thanks for the reply! John Keith kd0gd@juno.com Article: 331337 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 08:26:56 -0800 Message-ID: <23272-4416EED0-380@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> References: >From William: >I can understand people enjoying tube >audio equipment (for any number of >reasons), including radios. But tube TVs? >It's not like this is a CTC-100, or the first >Westinghouse set. It's hardly a >"classic"... William, you old fudd (!) Why in the world would you want to discourage a young person's interest in vintage tube gear of ANY kind? Good grief aready. oc Article: 331338 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Copper Screen Wire Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 10:37:05 -0600 Message-ID: <17167-4416F131-1360@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: I own nine old motor vehicles.One of them is a 1914 Ford T Model one seat roadster.I dont like newish vehicles,,, I like them oldies.I guess that makes me a motorhead. cuhulin,the motorhead Article: 331339 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: szekeres@pitt.edu (GregS) Subject: Re: Golfball Size Hail - two days in a row :-\ Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:12:22 GMT Message-ID: References: <2813-44164831-1224@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> In article , Blacksmith wrote: >On Mon, 13 Mar 2006 22:36:01 -0600, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > >>Last week,we got some "weather" here,including dime size hail.The Nissan >>factory about twenty something miles North of me has some sonic sound >>cannons (whatever they are called) they use to bust up hail stones so >>they wont mess up them new vehicles out there in their parking lot. >>cuhulin > >At one time, my son was shopping for his first car. A dealer in Ohio >was going to let a hail damaged new car go for a really cheap price. >I'm glad my son checked with me first as he was actually considering >it. It was dimpled all over. The dealer was going to give him $1,000 >off. Big f'n deal! >Blacksmith >wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom The dealer could have had it fixed, but it may have costed about that $1000 for a paintless dent repairer. Just to repaint a car anything near orginal quality costs thousands. Orginal painting usually is not duplicated, and the paint can peal or the metal rust. greg Article: 331340 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" Subject: Hurry, only 10,000 kits available! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:50:42 GMT Not trying to spam here, I just found this to be tremendously optimistic. At $129.99 + shipping, how many of these are they really going to be able to sell? http://www.karakuricorner.com/catalog/vacuumradio.jpg http://www.karakuricorner.com/servlet/the-315/Vacuum-Tube-Radio-1920/Detail jim menning Article: 331341 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4417209B.7D0CFF2E@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Antique Radio Auction - Upstate NY References: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:59:55 GMT toxcrusadr wrote: > > Hey, in another 40 years that thing will be as hot as what 30s art deco > is now. Hold onto yours. Trust me. > > Tox I doubut that I'll be around in 40 years, and if I am, I am sure collecting radios will be the last thing on my mind, if it even still works. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331342 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Hurry, only 10,000 kits available! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:19:42 -0500 "jim menning" wrote in message news:m8FRf.28596$ty4.19063@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > Not trying to spam here, I just found this to be tremendously optimistic. > > At $129.99 + shipping, how many of these are they really going to be able to sell? > Jim I'd bet they only have a very small fraction of those kits actually ready to ship. There's no huge market from what I've seen when other's have attempted the same thing, for a lot less money. Pete Article: 331343 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Hurry, only 10,000 kits available! Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 14:27:07 -0600 Message-ID: <24189-4417271B-65@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: WHATS A "TUBE STRAINER". CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 331344 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <24189-4417271B-65@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Hurry, only 10,000 kits available! Message-ID: <3VFRf.28598$ty4.14048@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:42:39 GMT "Bill Turner" wrote in message news:24189-4417271B-65@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net... > > > WHATS A "TUBE STRAINER". > > Mandinglish for "tube pin straightener". jim menning Article: 331345 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Hurry, only 10,000 kits available! References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:49:26 -0500 I know people go for crap like this, I see new 'antique' radios in catalogs all the time. I just wonder, why would they want a fake antique when there are so many real ones available??? Do we need a good marketing rep? Ken jim menning wrote: > Not trying to spam here, I just found this to be tremendously optimistic. > > At $129.99 + shipping, how many of these are they really going to be able to sell? > > http://www.karakuricorner.com/catalog/vacuumradio.jpg > > http://www.karakuricorner.com/servlet/the-315/Vacuum-Tube-Radio-1920/Detail > > jim menning > > Article: 331346 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Alignment procedure needed for AK 217 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:29:26 -0400 Message-ID: <121eddjre4eh59b@corp.supernews.com> References: Blacksmith wrote: > Can anyone steer me to a procedure for aligning an AK 217? > I have 3 pages from Rider's but there is nothing about alignment. > There is a 3-gang tuning cap and 2 adjusting screws on the chassis. > I have a lot of old radio books, maybe there's something in one of > them but I have no idea where to look. Have you tried this site? http://www.atwaterkentradio.com/aksvcman.htm -Bill Article: 331347 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Wire recorder project - success! Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 17:35:39 -0400 Message-ID: <121edpee36htd03@corp.supernews.com> References: <1142370523.946952.130090@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Nick wrote: > Back in October last year I came to this group to solicit some help to > recover the audio from some old spools of steel wire recorded by my > Grandfather on a homebrew wire recorder from about 1949. > > Thanks to advice from people here and elsewhere on the web, we > succeeded! Amazing! Great work. -Bill > Article: 331348 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "magicspoons" Subject: FA: Bakelite 1956 Philips B3G63A Valve Radio Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:12:28 GMT http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6612782622&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 Thanks for looking Article: 331349 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Hurry, only 10,000 kits available! Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:30:43 +0900 Message-ID: References: "jim menning" wrote in message news:m8FRf.28596$ty4.19063@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > Not trying to spam here, I just found this to be tremendously optimistic. > > At $129.99 + shipping, how many of these are they really going to be able > to sell? > > http://www.karakuricorner.com/catalog/vacuumradio.jpg > > http://www.karakuricorner.com/servlet/the-315/Vacuum-Tube-Radio-1920/Detail > > jim menning So it uses a C cell for an A battery.. it doesn't mention anything about what the plates run on.... Article: 331350 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "James F. Mayer" Subject: Digikey phishing Message-ID: Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:12:41 GMT Someone or a group of persons are phishing with the subject header "CC Pending Order Letter from Digi-Key for salesorder 16642643" I have received 2 (two) of them in the last two days and I have forwarded them to Digikey. They are investigating. If you receive any, please notify Digikey so thay can trsck down the culprits and prosecute them to the fullest extent of the law. Article: 331351 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Alignment procedure needed for AK 217 Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:39:23 -0400 Message-ID: <121el18pab74d15@corp.supernews.com> References: <121eddjre4eh59b@corp.supernews.com> Blacksmith wrote: > > No, but that's the same info as from Riders. No alignment info. > Thanks, It looks pretty straight forward. A1 and A2 are RF trimmers, peak at the high end of BCB, A3 is oscillator trimmer - same thing. No padders for low end. A4,5, 6 and A7 are trimmers for the IF, peak at the IF freq (264kc). SW falls where it may and has no separate alignment... HTH, Bill Article: 331352 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <1142282524.839742.319940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4Y-dnfMdwqUbJIvZnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:46:30 GMT I have analog cable too, and every time a quick busy scene comes along it "Pixelates"! That along with the constant "digital glitches" ever notice how many times Radio and TV goes off the air, or freezes or something else goes wrong? probably 10 times as often as before they went digital. Not to mention all the show that were scheduled to be on and werent or were re-runs instead of new ones because the download didnt go through. Ditch Digital! at least for now... the technology isnt able to deal with it yet. keith "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:4Y-dnfMdwqUbJIvZnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> A modern set, with a flat faceplate, line doubling, and image > enhancement, >>> will produce a grossly superior picture. And that's an understatement. > >> I'll have to disagree on this one Bill. With modern cable and satellite >> television, the relative lack of bandwidth on an old tube television >> could >> only make it look better by masking some of the artifacting. > > I have analog cable. There are no digital artifacts. > > Article: 331353 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Allison" Subject: Re: Speaker-Driven Reverb: Anyone know how it works? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:04:15 +1100 Message-ID: <47p7gdFfmrn3U1@individual.net> References: <1142383696.329779.108820@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> "Mick" > > I'm trying to find out how speaker driven reverb works. ** Err - the reverb unit is driven from the speaker connection on the amp via a series resistor. The resistor value depends on the spring unit's input impedance. > I have an old Guild Thunder I, and I know some of these amps had > spring-driven reverb. Hoping it is not too difficult to add. > ** If the amp has two input channels, then the reverb output can be fed into the spare one. Adjust tone and volume to taste. But it WILL feed-back and howl if you use more than a touch of reverb. That is why nearly all guitar amps use a separate reverb driver stage. .......... Phil Article: 331354 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:28:00 +0900 Message-ID: References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <1142282524.839742.319940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4Y-dnfMdwqUbJIvZnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@comcast.com> "Keith Park" wrote in message news:GtJRf.2475$Mj.1301@twister.nyroc.rr.com... >I have analog cable too, and every time a quick busy scene comes along it >"Pixelates"! > That along with the constant "digital glitches" ever notice how many > times Radio and TV goes off the air, or freezes or something else goes > wrong? probably 10 times as often as before they went digital. Not to > mention all the show that were scheduled to be on and werent or were > re-runs instead of new ones because the download didnt go through. > > Ditch Digital! at least for now... the technology isnt able to deal with > it yet. > > keith My point exactly. Even analog cable providers are getting their programming >from digital satellite (mpeg2). To make matters worse, it's digitized, then encoded, then decoded, then turned into analog.. there's more room for loss or scambled pixels in analog cable than in digital cable... My sole source of US programming is via AFRTS satellite feed. This is the grossest, most artifact ridden video I have ever seen in my life that TRIES to pass as broadcast quality. Heavy pixelization during scene transitions, and gross, huge pixels where there are wide color gradients (e.g. a sky scene where the blue gradiates from dark to light to whispy clouds). This ain't my mom's TV anymore.. and I can tell you, it's NOT an improvement. And while I'm on my soapbox, neither are LCD and/or bigscreen TV's that are supposedly optimized for HD.. when viewing NTSC on them, it reminds me of a bad painting done in pontillism. I have a 21" LCD computer monitor.. it looks sharp, clear, gorgeous when I'm doing things related to the computer.. but try to watch television (from my ATI All-in-Wonder card) and I can't stand to have it more than about a 6" picture.. and God forbid I should use the direct NTSC input on the monitor.. that's totally unviewable from less than 20' away. Point being, they really need to go back to the drawing board.. this is NOT better.. it's not even AS GOOD. That being said, true 1080p HD, as shown on a quality plasma screen (LCD's just look BAD) is impressive.. but there's not enough of that program material out there to make it worth buying the set. And I doubt seriously that AFRTS is going to do any HD transmissions.. EVER. They never even mention a changeover from NTSC on there feeds. Article: 331355 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: GE 7-4880A Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:24:56 -0700 Message-ID: <25085-44176CE8-1855@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> References: I use one of these every day and have for 20? years . One solution was to remove the sponge from the keyboard . I did that . I also ran a very fine file under each contact to file both contacts in each switch at the same time . That did the longest lasting fix however buttons that dont get used still get ``pickey`` Replacing all the original contact things with buttons such as ones used in VCR`s could be done with alot of patience . I would emagine there are smaller flatter sealed buttons on the market today that may fit better . Article: 331356 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Variac Recommendations? References: <1142340095.682782.304710@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> <24187-4416CE2A-1056@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> <1142366091.068501.132110@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 01:40:51 GMT Peter Wieck wrote: > More something like this.... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Heathkit-IP-5220-Variable-Isolated-AC-Power-Supply_W0QQitemZ7599910626 Use this link. It works. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7599910626 > I own this model, the AC ammeter has two ranges, 0-1A & 0-3A, covers > most things. And on the fine scale, it will measure only a couple of ma > very nicely. Each range is separately fused as well. It has kept me out > of a _lot_ of trouble. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331357 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John048 Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Message-ID: References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 01:40:06 GMT Here is a way to test the area where your cats are laying and this works best if you know a little about developing film or photographic paper. First place 2 or 3 quarters or half dollars in the area where your cat lays. Next, you need a piece of photographic paper and the envelope that it comes in. Lay the envelope with the sheet of photo paper on top of the area where the coins are at. Next, put a heavy book on top of the envelope and photo paper. Run the tv as normal for the next few days and then remove the film and envelope and develop the photo paper. If you can see outlines of the coins on the paper or if the paper has turns grayish or black, there is radiation coming up there in a considerable amount. This is similar to what happens when you get an xray at the doctor's office. You will have to keep the cats away while you do this but I would do the test anyway because you don't want that radiation around where you get some exposure from it. Another way to do it is to leave the cats up there and watch and see if their hair starts falling out after awhile. :-) From pcos Sat Mar 18 11:45:44 EST 2006 Article: 331358 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: pcos (pco@msn.com) Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: When did they start using rubber coated wire? X-Newsreader: NewsLeecher v3.0 Final (http://www.newsleecher.com) References: Lines: 16 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: abuse@WWWSpace.NET NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 18:43:02 MST Organization: @WWWSpace UseNET Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 01:43:02 GMT Path: news0.isis.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!guardian.oit.duke.edu!news.glorb.com!hwmnpeer01.lga!hwmedia!news.highwinds-media.com!hw-filter.lga!newsfe17.lga.POSTED!2e2caadc!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:331358 I've never heard anyone mention what I do with old rubber coated under the chassis. So, for what its worth, I remove the rubber coating first - using mini square nosed pliers. Just squeezing the coating will usually break it off. Most often at least one end of the wire is terminated at a component which needs replacement - a cap, etc. It is heated and the solder removed from the joint. With one end of the wire thus unsoldered, I pull it, straigten the end and then slip a section of thinwall shrink tubing over it. After reconnecting the components and resoldering, I run the soldering iron along the tubing to form fit it. There are two sizes that I keep on hand; 3/64" and 1/16". They come in many colors. These have worked for all instances for me so far. For what its worth, I get them at Warren Electric and they are NTE brand. lou -- ---------------------------------------------- Posted with NewsLeecher v3.0 Final * Binary Usenet Leeching Made Easy * http://www.newsleecher.com/?usenet ---------------------------------------------- Article: 331359 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John048 Subject: Crosley Pup values Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 01:43:49 GMT I might have a chance to buy a Crosley Pup radio without the tube. What is a reasonable price to pay for one of these in good condition with the tag present? Thanks, JS Article: 331360 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <23728-44163FF2-914@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 01:46:16 GMT Hi! > I will never buy a new Zenith anything > ever again.Zenith,,, over rated and over priced.RCA is still the best. Oh, I don't know about that. While I'm relatively new to the fascinating subject of radio collecting and restoration, I have noticed one thing. Of all the radios I have collected over time, the Zenith-made ones are the only ones that have played out of the box. Perhaps they weren't quite 100%, but they did manage to make music where other sets would just hum or do nothing at all. http://greyghost.dyndns.org/radiocollection/zenith7C05.htm http://greyghost.dyndns.org/radiocollection/zenithC845L.htm (...and I have others, but haven't done the pages for them...) As for their later model TV sets, I had a solid-state "wooden colored" plastic 13 inch color Zenith set from the early 80s that had just about every kind of trouble a TV could have. The picture would go off color, the sound randomly went to full volume or completely out, and the tuner never really worked right. (It was one of those tuners where you adjusted each "position" on the dial to a channel in your area.) I had it repaired so many times by a few different shops, only to have it break down time and again. It was so bad I kept a soft toy baseball bat by the TV to whack it and make it play properly for a (little) while. Finally the power supply gave up and that was the end of it. Today I have a similar set (with a real set of VHF and UHF tuners) that I picked up off the curb about the time a much newer Magnavox TV (in my kitchen) failed. That was in 2001 and the TV was made in June or July of 1983. It's still playing like it was brand new in the kitchen. All I've had to do is clean it every now and again. I don't think I'd buy a modern Zenith set. While I have a fairly high opinion of LG/GoldStar, I bought a new 25 inch Zenith TV and had the picture tube go out in three years' time. Just my $0.02... William Article: 331361 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 21:55:31 -0400 Message-ID: <121et0g1qlbmj37@corp.supernews.com> References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <1142282524.839742.319940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4Y-dnfMdwqUbJIvZnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@comcast.com> Brenda Ann wrote: > > > .. there's more room for loss > or scambled pixels in analog cable than in digital cable... ??? I'm not sure I follow that. -Bill Article: 331362 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:31:30 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> In John048 writes: >Another way to do it is to leave the cats up there and watch and see >if their hair starts falling out after awhile. :-) Or place the film on top of them and do a cat scan. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331363 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <1142383696.329779.108820@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Speaker-Driven Reverb: Anyone know how it works? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:32:09 GMT In a time long long ago......I had the opportunity once to participate in a recording session with the band I ran sound for. The studio had an empty room in the basement, with hard reflective surfaces (concrete or ceramic tile. I don't remember). A speaker at one end and a mic (or two) at the other. That, literally, was their reverb chamber. Other than that I have no idea. PP. "Mick" wrote in message news:1142383696.329779.108820@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com... > Hello All, > > I'm trying to find out how speaker driven reverb works. > > I have an old Guild Thunder I, and I know some of these amps had > spring-driven reverb. Hoping it is not too difficult to add. > > Thanks in advance, > Mick > Article: 331364 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: HX-50 Hammarlund, Linearizing the output of the 2nd mixer & Driver stages - Help Please. Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:37:04 GMT I had posted this on rec.radio.amateur.boatanchors group. But I figure since it is tube type perhaps some one here has some experience. I found the 10m oscillator problem. The first plate choke needed more uh. I added an additional slug and the heterodyne oscillator sprung to life. I will later replace both slugs with a single one. BUT Now I am trying to linearize the output with in each band. While feeding in an external VFO frequency, with the heterodyne oscillator tube remove, one must sweep the band and insure it is with in 1db. I got all the bands except the 10m band. It is real tricky. I use both a scope and a VTVM with RF probe. I can see the VTVM drop while the amplitude of the wave form stays relatively unchanged. But the wave form changes shape. It goes ever so slightly triangular and the VTVM drops like a rock. I can see why the original owner put an external filter on the case. It must have been throwing out harmonics. I also found that it does not like 1k ohm carbon film resistors in the plate 300v B+ circuits (not the final). I replaced those with metal oxide. Anyone ever successfully accomplish this alignment step? And how did you do it? Please help before I pull out the rest of my hair. Thanks, Paul. Article: 331365 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <1142282524.839742.319940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4Y-dnfMdwqUbJIvZnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 02:50:18 GMT Rant mode - On. .................. This is the > grossest, most artifact ridden video I have ever seen in my life that > TRIES to pass as broadcast quality. Heavy pixelization during scene > transitions, and gross, huge pixels where there are wide color gradients > (e.g. a sky scene where the blue gradiates from dark to light to whispy > clouds). This ain't my mom's TV anymore.. and I can tell you, it's NOT an > improvement. > There was a time when the broadcast industry and the associated engineers, producers, owners etc., prided them selves on doing the best possible job, produce the best possible picture, best possible audio and most reliable signals. It was like they held themselves to a higher standard knowing the public was viewing their product. Similar to live stage work. If a grip or stage hand makes an unscheduled noise (like dropping something or tripping) they were teased about it and singled out. Not in a mean hateful way but in a prideful way. But if a person was a continuous screw up they were taught how to do thing right (usually because they wanted to) or terminated. There appears to be no pride in the TV industry anymore. Poor poor picture/audio/signal quality. Times gone by, Paul. Rant mode - Off Article: 331366 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Anyone got one of these Airline dial glasses? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:14:01 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:dv2r4r$e5d$1@news2.kornet.net... > http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Dial1.jpg > > http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/dial2.jpg > > http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Dial3.jpg > > > Testing, testing... Hello.. is this thing on? Article: 331367 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 03:16:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <1142282524.839742.319940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4Y-dnfMdwqUbJIvZnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@comcast.com> In "Paul P" writes: >There appears to be no pride in the TV industry anymore. Poor poor >picture/audio/signal quality. I can't speak for broadcast, but here in post-production land folks are more mental than ever. I'll get called into a room where the colorist is cutting back and forth between their work and a reference still. The vectorscope will be set to max gain and they're pointing to a dot wiggling back and forth about a 1/16 of an inch. "This doesn't match what I did yesterday." That's what? About .001% chroma difference? They'll complain about it. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331368 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: Anyone got an SX-25 that needs some TLC? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 21:02:51 -0700 Message-ID: References: Brenda, I'll go out to the storage bldg. tomorrow and snap some pics for you. I'm not good at pricing things like this...so after I get the pics to you, I'll let you make me an offer. How does that sound ?? Ben Article: 331369 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Anyone got one of these Airline dial glasses? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 04:14:15 GMT "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:dv80gh$m9t$1@news2.kornet.net... > > "Brenda Ann" wrote in message > news:dv2r4r$e5d$1@news2.kornet.net... >> http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Dial1.jpg >> >> http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/dial2.jpg >> >> http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Dial3.jpg >> >> >> > > Testing, testing... Hello.. is this thing on? > > > I wasn't aware that we actually had to respond if we didn't have one. No, I don't have one. Go Fish! ;o) jim menning Article: 331370 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Anyone got one of these Airline dial glasses? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:21:19 +0900 Message-ID: References: "jim menning" wrote in message news:rwMRf.28621$ty4.17914@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Brenda Ann" wrote in message > news:dv80gh$m9t$1@news2.kornet.net... >> >> "Brenda Ann" wrote in message >> news:dv2r4r$e5d$1@news2.kornet.net... >>> http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Dial1.jpg >>> >>> http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/dial2.jpg >>> >>> http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Dial3.jpg >>> >>> >>> >> >> Testing, testing... Hello.. is this thing on? >> >> >> > > I wasn't aware that we actually had to respond if we didn't have one. > > No, I don't have one. Go Fish! ;o) > > jim menning There's one in every crowd... LOL Article: 331371 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Anyone got an SX-25 that needs some TLC? References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 04:21:27 GMT Benjamaniac wrote: > Brenda, > I'll go out to the storage bldg. tomorrow and snap some pics for > you. I'm not good at pricing things like this...so after I get the pics to > you, I'll let you make me an offer. How does that sound ?? > Ben Oh, and as an aside, I've sent a radio to Brenda before. It's a painless procedure at the shipping place I go to. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331372 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:22:59 +0900 Message-ID: References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <1142282524.839742.319940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4Y-dnfMdwqUbJIvZnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@comcast.com> <121et0g1qlbmj37@corp.supernews.com> "- exray -" wrote in message news:121et0g1qlbmj37@corp.supernews.com... > Brenda Ann wrote: > > >> >> >> .. there's more room for loss or scambled pixels in analog cable than in >> digital cable... > > ??? I'm not sure I follow that. > > -Bill Did you miss this part? Even analog cable providers are getting their programming >from digital satellite (mpeg2). To make matters worse, it's digitized, then encoded, then decoded, then turned into analog.. Article: 331373 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "t.hoehler" References: <1142370523.946952.130090@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wire recorder project - success! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 04:35:28 GMT "Nick" wrote in message news:1142370523.946952.130090@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Back in October last year I came to this group to solicit some help to > recover the audio from some old spools of steel wire recorded by my > Grandfather on a homebrew wire recorder from about 1949. > > Thanks to advice from people here and elsewhere on the web, we > succeeded! > > I just put up a web site to describe the whole process: > > http://www.gentweb.co.uk/wirerecorder.htm > > Thanks again for the advice. I'll probably be back for more advice when > I get around to fully restoring the two wire recorders that I bought! > Nick. This is an amazing find and rescue! The recording quality is pretty darn good, considering the year and the fact the recorder was home made. Tom Article: 331374 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Anyone got an SX-25 that needs some TLC? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:52:20 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Benjamaniac" wrote in message news:dv83lc$797u$1@news3.infoave.net... > Brenda, > I'll go out to the storage bldg. tomorrow and snap some pics for > you. I'm not good at pricing things like this...so after I get the pics to > you, I'll let you make me an offer. How does that sound ?? > Ben > I'm not much better at it.. maybe some input from folks who are more familiar with this model? Looking forward to the pics. Thanks. :) Article: 331375 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Anyone got an SX-25 that needs some TLC? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:54:14 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:bDMRf.500$%d.19@tornado.socal.rr.com... > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Wow.. I've seen THAT sign plenty of times.. (interestingly, NOT at any base here... but at Yokota, Japan.. though it must be posted here, too... perhaps only in Hangul though... ) Article: 331376 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Scott Irvine Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:05:31 GMT Matthew Davala wrote: > Hello Everyone. > > > Been awhile since I have poked around the newsgroup. I feel bad! > > I have a 1966 Zenith Color tv. Its still a 21 inch roundie. My > girlfriend and I are using it as our daily TV(up to 4 or 5 hours some days). > (I'm thankful to have such a understanding girlfriend) We've been using it > every day since about september of last year. Best damn old TV I've used. I > pray the flyback keeps going. Picture tube is still strong. It uses > compactrons, but hey, its still vacuum tube technology . > My question: My two cats love to sleep on top of the set while its on. I'm > sure the top gets warm. Should I be concerned about X-rays emitting from the > top of the shunt regulator? The HV rect is fully enclosed, and the shunt is > basically surrounded except for the top. The top points to where my kittys > bellys are. > > Are they in danger of X rays? If they are, could I glue sheet metal to the > underside of the cabnits top? > > Thanks, > Matt Davala, in Oregon. > > That's the tv I grew up on until 1975 when we got a new solid state one. I use to sit pretty close to it and I am ok I think. Article: 331377 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Scott Irvine Subject: Re: Hurry, only 10,000 kits available! References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:12:02 GMT jim menning wrote: > Not trying to spam here, I just found this to be tremendously optimistic. > > At $129.99 + shipping, how many of these are they really going to be able to sell? > > http://www.karakuricorner.com/catalog/vacuumradio.jpg > > http://www.karakuricorner.com/servlet/the-315/Vacuum-Tube-Radio-1920/Detail > > jim menning > > Now I feel dumb for asking my wife to get me the one tube Radio ace kit that I got for Christmas for about the same price. Scott Irvine Article: 331378 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Anyone got one of these Airline dial glasses? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 23:00:31 -0600 Message-ID: <28826-4417AD7F-1158@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: I own a few old Airline tube type radios and I also own a pair of Airguide 49A 4 x 35 Chicago U.S.A.Binoculars.Does that count? cuhulin Article: 331379 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Scott Irvine Subject: Re: Wire recorder project - success! References: <1142370523.946952.130090@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:33:50 GMT t.hoehler wrote: > "Nick" wrote in message > news:1142370523.946952.130090@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > >>Back in October last year I came to this group to solicit some help to >>recover the audio from some old spools of steel wire recorded by my >>Grandfather on a homebrew wire recorder from about 1949. >> >>Thanks to advice from people here and elsewhere on the web, we >>succeeded! >> >>I just put up a web site to describe the whole process: >> >>http://www.gentweb.co.uk/wirerecorder.htm >> >>Thanks again for the advice. I'll probably be back for more advice when >>I get around to fully restoring the two wire recorders that I bought! >>Nick. > > > This is an amazing find and rescue! The recording quality is pretty darn > good, considering the year and the fact the recorder was home made. > Tom > > Very good work. Great sound quality. Wish I had the tapes I made when I was a Kid. Article: 331380 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Anyone got one of these Airline dial glasses? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 00:22:26 -0600 Message-ID: <28826-4417B2A2-1159@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: www.radiodaze.com/reproglassdials.htm advertizes some radio dials for sale.Why not get a plain piece of glass and make a replacement glass dial? I think some modelmakers do things like that. cuhulin Article: 331381 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Anyone got an SX-25 that needs some TLC? Date: Tue, 14 Mar 2006 22:26:54 -0800 Message-ID: References: Brenda Ann wrote: > "Benjamaniac" wrote in message > news:dv83lc$797u$1@news3.infoave.net... > >> Brenda, >> I'll go out to the storage bldg. tomorrow and snap some pics for >>you. I'm not good at pricing things like this...so after I get the pics to >>you, I'll let you make me an offer. How does that sound ?? >> Ben >> > > > I'm not much better at it.. maybe some input from folks who are more > familiar with this model? Looking forward to the pics. > This is essentially the same as an SX-24, except it has push-pull final audio output. It is one notch below the SX-28 in the hallicrafters line-up of its era, at least a couple of notches below in terms of performance (and weight!). Still, It's not a bad radio.....Well worth restoring, and almost all the usual high-failure parts are easily accessable on this one. If you've ever monkeyed with one of the truly complex high-dollar boatanchors such as an sp-600 or SX-28, restoring one of these will be like a walk in the park on a sunny day. Unlike those other huge sets, the SX-25 will fit fairly comfortably on a sturdy bookshelf, and the audio quality is outstanding with a good speaker. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 331382 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <1142304901.404630.315660@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142340095.682782.304710@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Variac Recommendations? Message-ID: <74SRf.4369$Ub.1115@trndny07> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 10:33:39 GMT "Shawn K" wrote in message news:DhORf.142834$sa3.75976@pd7tw1no... > Well, now that we are on this topic, I have a variac that was given to me > over christmas, and I would like to make use of it. I know that it > supplies 0-140 volts AC, so I am looking around for a 150Vac meter. What > should I use for the amp meter? 0-1A or 0-3A, or is there a way to use one > meter and add a switch of some sort to change the range? I dug around in > my stuff and I have a 0-5A meter already. As a matter of convenience - I have an old AmpClamp that I use. I found it one day clamped to the compressor lead of my air-conditioner. To make a more sensitive scale I wrap five or ten wraps (an easy multiplier) of wire around the clamp and insert that wire into the circuit to be measured. So if I see ten (10) amps on the meter, with ten wraps, that is one (1) amp actual. Or measure 5 amps with ten wraps, I am measuring 0.5 amps etc. etc. Try it (prove your set up) with a know amperage using a 100 watt lamp (at rated voltage). 100 watts at 120 volts (P=EI) ten wraps should measure 8.333 amps on the meter. That would be 0.8333 amps actual. Pretty tricky.... Paul. Article: 331383 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" References: Subject: Re: Hurry, only 10,000 kits available! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:44:24 GMT They are cheaper in Japan, where the kit originates. Gakken makes adult science kits. I purchased and built on of their crystal radio kits from this same outfit. Not the best crystal radio performance-wise. But it was fun to build and looks cool. The kits are very popular in Japan, so I think they will sell them all. "jim menning" wrote in message news:m8FRf.28596$ty4.19063@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > Not trying to spam here, I just found this to be tremendously optimistic. > > At $129.99 + shipping, how many of these are they really going to be able > to sell? > > http://www.karakuricorner.com/catalog/vacuumradio.jpg > > http://www.karakuricorner.com/servlet/the-315/Vacuum-Tube-Radio-1920/Detail > > jim menning > Article: 331384 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" Subject: help id an airline bakelite Message-ID: <4CURf.4209$422.2572@fed1read10> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 06:28:21 -0700 To All, I just picked up a bakelite Airline AM/FM The chassis has the number 104786 7a96 stamped on it, but no other markings. I've posted a pic on the binaries. Anyone know what model it is??? Thanks Bob in phx. Article: 331385 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:41:46 -0400 Message-ID: <121g6cprvct0oa3@corp.supernews.com> References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <1142282524.839742.319940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4Y-dnfMdwqUbJIvZnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@comcast.com> <121et0g1qlbmj37@corp.supernews.com> Brenda Ann wrote: > "- exray -" wrote in message > news:121et0g1qlbmj37@corp.supernews.com... > >>Brenda Ann wrote: >> >> >> >>> >>>.. there's more room for loss or scambled pixels in analog cable than in >>>digital cable... >> >>??? I'm not sure I follow that. >> >>-Bill > > > Did you miss this part? > > Even analog cable providers are getting their programming > from digital satellite (mpeg2). To make matters worse, it's digitized, then > encoded, then decoded, then turned into analog.. > > No, I didn't question that part because you're correct. I'm saying the conversion to analog and subsequent transmission has nothing to do with adding "more room for loss or scrambled pixels in analog cable". If its screwed up with pixellation effects, its screwed up before going analog. -Bill Article: 331386 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: My new 1934 RCA Victor 341 Duo Magic Brain radio/phono References: <1142319113.927973.200370@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 13:51:04 GMT You might want to post your location to see if there is someone in your area. Marc wrote: > I just acquired an RCA Victor 1934 model 341 Duo radio/phono console. > The radio works but the phonograph needs work. It has a record > changing mechanism and 78 and 33 speeds. Does anyone know of a good > repair shop who can work on these? Thanks! > Article: 331387 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" References: Subject: Re: Crosley Pup values Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:20:14 -0500 Some eBay transactions: - $481 with tube - $390 with tube and wire tags - $306.50, Reserve not met, near mint, complete, with tube, label, wire tags At most swap meets the sellers ask about $350 with tube. I paid $365 with a good WD12 tube. I'd say offer $325 or so without the tube IF the paint and label are good, wire tags present. JUST MY OPINION! "John048" wrote in message news:q7se1290ecs1jjdvlps5hofcg3hgsgev66@4ax.com... > I might have a chance to buy a Crosley Pup radio without the tube. > What is a reasonable price to pay for one of these in good condition > with the tag present? > > Thanks, > > JS Article: 331388 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ken Yoder" References: <1142380271.645259.211570@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Jackson 648 tube tester Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:18:16 -0500 Message-ID: Hi Bob. Jim Cross has a book out on the 648. From the website it appears that it has all the information you are looking for. http://www.vacuumtubesinc.com/648.html Regards, Ken Yoder wrote in message news:1142380271.645259.211570@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > My Jackson 648A tester must have a later roll chart, it does not have > settings for testing 01A or 200A tubes. Could anybody supply me with > the correct settings to test these tubes? I use settings for 30 to test > 01A and change filament voltage to 5 and it seems to be fairly > accurate. I would be interested in other roll charts, suppliemental > data, etc. if anyone has any. TIA, Bob > Article: 331389 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Crazy George" References: Subject: Re: GE 7-4880A Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:28:28 -0600 Message-ID: <44182481@kcnews03> I bought my 7-4885A ( the deluxe version of the 4880) new in 1979 from one of the late "Catalog Stores". I added the "ANTI-THUMP" resistor to the output stage and it remained a good performer for about 15 years before the keyboard started acting up. I tried the usual chemical cleaning job, and it lasted about a year. So, eventually, when I had time, I fixed it. First, throw that rubber pad with the holes in it between the keys and the contacts as far away as you can. It is the cause of the problems. Replace it with a piece of polyurethane foam cut and drilled appropriately. Then unsolder the spring contacts and remove them. Mechanically remove the corrosion from the fixed contacts, and coat them with silicone grease, or some other material with no film strength and which will keep oxygen away. Wipe the insides of the upper spring contacts and reinstall. I did that 10 years ago, and it is still working fine. If a new one were to be found, removal of the rubber before damage occurs would have been the trick. I currently have 3 of the 4885s and one of the simpler 4880 models in my collection, two rebuilt and two to go. The original 4885 has been my bedside radio since 1979. Now, what I want to know is if anyone has given serious consideration to reprogramming the controller to extend the tuning range out to 1700 kHz? -- Crazy George W5VPQ My real address is my ham call ARRL.NET The ATTGlobal is a SPAM trap. "John Keith" wrote in message news:hohc125fuh3tb54315k1g0137bdg6ecekd@4ax.com... > Can anyone give me the year this radio was first introduced? > > Also, has anyone successfully found a way to deal with the unreliable > pushbutton switches? I've got an approah I want to try to replace the > original switches with some modern enclosed tactile switches and I > think I can leave the exterior appearance the same, but I'd like to > hear if others have solved this problem area on this radio. > > > John Keith > kd0gd@juno.com Article: 331390 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44182509.73032F7E@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <1142282524.839742.319940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4Y-dnfMdwqUbJIvZnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@comcast.com> <78qdnVIJ16caZorZRVn-jg@comcast.com> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:31:16 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: > > > There was a time when the broadcast industry and the associated engineers, > > producers, owners etc., prided them selves on doing the best possible job, > > produce the best possible picture, best possible audio and most reliable > > signals. It was like they held themselves to a higher standard knowing > the > > public was viewing their product. Similar to live stage work. > > There was never a time the US broadcast industry cared about quality. This > is why NTSC encoding was (falsely) labeled "never twice the same color". Now you are THE expert on Radio & TV broadcast? I saw a lot of hard work, often unpaid overtime to get the best signal to your receiver. A lot of creativity was needed to stay on the air, and to constantly tweak the signal quality. Why would someone spend several million dollars to build a TV transmitter site, only to put out the worst signal possible, and stay on the air? I think its well past time to polish your "Glass Belly Button Award". The signal quality could, and did vary on network feeds, because the signal could be played with at hundreds of AT&T long lines proc amps in the coaxial feed between the network headquarters and all of their affiliates. get one person with vision problems, and the phase would be so far off that it couldn't be brought back to spec. That was why VITS was introduced. You sound like the guy that wrote a lengthy article "Proving" that NTSC video was not interlaced. His "proof" was photos of a scope display. ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331391 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44182635.AFB3DE4@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Variac Recommendations? References: <1142304901.404630.315660@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:36:15 GMT Peter Wieck wrote: > > >I use for the amp meter? 0-1A or 0-3A, or is there a way to use one meter and add a switch of some sort to >change the range? > > Yes, there is. You will need an adjustable resistor with enough heft to > take the load, and wire it in series with the 0-1A meter. Use a series > of light-bulbs to calculate the differences, set the resistor > accordingly and there you are (If one 100W light bulb deflects the > meter to X, on the 0-1range, then three will deflect it the same on the > 0-3 range. You can't make the 0-5A meter read more finely unless it has > an internal resistor that you might be able to manipulate. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA NO! You need to put the shunt across the meter to reduce the sensitivity, and show a higher current range. A resistor in series won't do anything useful, except heat up the cabinet. You are thinking about expanding the range of a voltmeter. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331392 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4418270A.283F8A3A@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Mark Robinson References: <1142431239.718313.71680@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:39:48 GMT Brian wrote: > > Hi, > I'm looking for Mark Robinson. I had some e-mail contact about a > year ago with his Verison e-mail address but it's no longer any good. I > sent him a schemaitc for the Challenger CH8 amp. I work in a radio > station in Boston. Mark, if you could get in touch with me at bcmyers > at gmail it would be great! I'm looking for the schematic for the CH18 > and can't find it anywhere! and I saw here that you had it. Thanks!! > > Brian Have you contacted Bogen? They used to be very good at supplying information on their older equipment. http://www.bogen.com/ -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331393 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Golfball Size Hail - two days in a row :-\ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:35:26 -0600 Message-ID: <2813-4418262E-1449@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <1142359731.377650.316270@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Hailstones do a tremendous amount of damage.Not only to vehicles,but also roofs on homes and farm crops.Years ago when I lived in Salina,Kansas,I saw up close the damage hailstones can do to cars.Looked just like someone worked that car all over with a ball peen hammer.Cowboys used to remove the saddles from their horses,they would place the saddles over their heads (the cowboys would) to keep the hailstones from killing them. cuhulin Article: 331394 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Anyone got one of these Airline dial glasses? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:28:47 -0600 Message-ID: <2813-441832AF-1465@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <1142428845.904337.270850@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I did a google search for,How to reproduce an image on glass. I think there are relatively simple inexpensive ways to do that,such as reproducing a radio glass dial.I know I would at least give it a try. cuhulin Article: 331395 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:28:53 -0800 Message-ID: <1030-441832B5-644@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> References: >From Andy C.: >There is a way to repair that problem >with the CRT. You can use a heat gun to >remove the bonded safety glass, then >reinstall the safety glass... About a year ago there was a thread (by 'Frenchy' IIRC) detailing his step-by-step procedure of doing exactly that on an old RCA. But in view of the implosion hazard, few would have the cajones to attempt such a procedure. Bill(oc) Article: 331396 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Golfball Size Hail - two days in a row :-\ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:33:19 -0800 Message-ID: <1030-441833BF-645@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> References: <2813-4418262E-1449@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> >Cowboys used to remove the saddles >from their horses,they would place the >saddles over their heads (the cowboys >would) to keep the hailstones from killing >them. > >cuhulin But what about the horses? oc Article: 331397 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 09:34:00 -0600 Message-ID: <2813-441833E8-1468@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <1142434127.000535.84620@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> My old forty one year old Zenith tv set has a tube brightener (I think that is what the tv and radio shop repairman guy called it way back then) on the back of the picture tube.I was wondering how those devices work? cuhulin Article: 331398 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Juergen Kosel" Subject: 1 Million Visitors to your Website Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:08:38 How To Get 1 Million Visitors On Your Web Site Without Paying A Dime In advertising ! Are you frustrated by the lack of traffic coming to your site? If I would tell you that after months of research, I just got my hands on the most hidden secrets... very sneaky tricks ! Click here : http://freeadguru.com/cgi-bin/i.pl?c=a&i=32460 Hurry, before the page gets banned! --- MAF Anti-Spam ID: 20060315091657M9n6YrV1 Article: 331399 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 08:41:54 -0800 Message-ID: <7235-441843D2-72@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> References: <2813-441833E8-1468@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> >My old forty one year old Zenith tv set >has a tube brightener...on the back of the >picture tube.I was wondering how those >devices work? > >cuhulin It's simply a step-up xfmr that bumps the heater voltage up about 20%, thereby increasing emission. Also called a booster. It's the 'last resort' for extending the useful life of a CRT. Sometimes it was added on alone, and sometimes for maintenance after "shooting" the tube with a rejuvenator. Then there was a combination booster/isolator for isolating heater-cathode shorts in color tubes. Problem was, the added capacitance caused blurring of fine detail in the video (since video is delivered via the cathodes). Bill(oc) Article: 331400 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: szekeres@pitt.edu (GregS) Subject: Re: Heading to Florida/Charlotte Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 17:38:27 GMT Message-ID: References: In article , "Mark Oppat" wrote: >Well, >loading up the Candyapple red Caravan and heading to FLA for some vacation >and will try to see several folks down there who frequent this group. >Dropping off some radios too, including a neat 1935 Silvertone Model 1822 >console, totally refinished (not by me) and restored (by me!) chassis. Pix >on the binaries. > >Then, up to Charlotte NC for the huge "Spring in the Carolinas" CC-AWA >swap! > >Hope to see many of you there... be sure to come by my knob and capacitors >booth usually in the middle of the lot! > >Mark Oppat (with wife Leann helping run the booth!) > Oh its spring break!! Article: 331401 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Golfball Size Hail - two days in a row :-\ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 11:34:22 -0600 Message-ID: <18782-4418501E-274@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1030-441833BF-645@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> The horses just had to fend for themselves in those hailstorms.It was the cowboys who would hunker down under their saddles. cuhulin Article: 331402 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44185acf$0$11080$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> Date: 15 Mar 2006 18:19:59 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: > TVs did not start emitting significant X-rays until the high voltage was > boosted to 20K and above for color TVs. Even then, it was mostly the rectifier tube that emitted X-rays. I have a few GY501 tubes with a warning printed on them. Never seen the warning on a ballast tube (or a picture tube).. - Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 331403 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:19:26 -0600 Message-ID: <18781-44185AAE-1109@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1142442460.981176.24840@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Does anyone know of any stores that sell wireless speakers,something that doesn't cost too much money? I would like to buy one that I can use with my tv set.(RCA 27 inch screen analog CRT tv set and DirecTV set top box) I want to put the speaker either on top of my couch or on an end table by my couch.Thanks for any information about that. cuhulin Article: 331404 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Golfball Size Hail - two days in a row :-\ Message-ID: <24og12h60ccv9iu5sl2jri8bsfs1nl3ock@4ax.com> References: <2813-4418262E-1449@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> <1030-441833BF-645@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 18:44:45 GMT On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 07:33:19 -0800, oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) wrote: >>Cowboys used to remove the saddles >>from their horses,they would place the >>saddles over their heads (the cowboys >>would) to keep the hailstones from killing >them. >> >>cuhulin > >But what about the horses? > >oc If the horses tried to kill them, they would probably shoot the horses. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 331405 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Radio/Phono shows Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 12:44:17 -0700 Message-ID: <28052-44186E91-1748@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net> Getting cabin fever and need to take a trip. Living in the hinter lands of Montana I am not acquainted with the show circuit for radios and phonographs. Never been to one and from here its almost 1000 miles to places that have them. Can anyone recommend some of the better/don't miss shows and/or a listing of up coming shows. I would like to plan a trip so that I could catch a couple of shows. DON AC7PD Article: 331406 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <28052-44186E91-1748@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Radio/Phono shows Message-ID: <8g%Rf.11784$Eg2.1104@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:00:52 GMT "Gridleak" wrote in message news:28052-44186E91-1748@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net... > Getting cabin fever and need to take a trip. Living in the hinter lands > of Montana I am not acquainted with the show circuit for radios and > phonographs. Never been to one and from here its almost 1000 miles to > places that have them. > Can anyone recommend some of the better/don't miss shows and/or a > listing of up coming shows. I would like to plan a trip so that I could > catch a couple of shows. > > DON > AC7PD > This may give you some ideas. http://www.antiqueradio.com/markcal.html http://www.antiqueradio.com/radioevents.html jim menning Article: 331407 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 06:32:36 +0900 Message-ID: References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <1142282524.839742.319940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4Y-dnfMdwqUbJIvZnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@comcast.com> <121et0g1qlbmj37@corp.supernews.com> <121g6cprvct0oa3@corp.supernews.com> "- exray -" wrote in message news:121g6cprvct0oa3@corp.supernews.com... > Brenda Ann wrote: >> "- exray -" wrote in message >> news:121et0g1qlbmj37@corp.supernews.com... >> >>>Brenda Ann wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> >>>>.. there's more room for loss or scambled pixels in analog cable than in >>>>digital cable... >>> >>>??? I'm not sure I follow that. >>> >>>-Bill >> >> >> Did you miss this part? >> >> Even analog cable providers are getting their programming >> from digital satellite (mpeg2). To make matters worse, it's digitized, >> then >> encoded, then decoded, then turned into analog.. > > No, I didn't question that part because you're correct. I'm saying the > conversion to analog and subsequent transmission has nothing to do with > adding "more room for loss or scrambled pixels in analog cable". If its > screwed up with pixellation effects, its screwed up before going analog. > > -Bill Agreed.. but let's try this to clarify my statement. In direct-to-home digital, there are not those extra steps of conversion that add in (practically inevitable) additional artifacts that therefor would not be there on direct-to-home that would be there on your analog cable. One of the things I'm referring to is the fact that the cable system adds noise that increases digital artifacts which you would not be dealing with when using your Dish network or whatever satellite receiver (not that the video from those is any prize). Article: 331408 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: OT: (Audio Related) JM Technical Arts References: <1142452452.035174.317710@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:36:12 -0600 Peter Wieck wrote: > I had occasion to send my Revox A720 out for service. Symptoms were no > sound from the tuner, even though the nixies & meters showed reception. > The remote diagnosis was the muting relay was bad/stuck. > > In any case, JM Technical Arts, for the fee of $188.69 inclusive of > shipping and parts, fixed the problem, cleaned the unit, replaced a > mess-O-lamps and checked the alignment. I am perfectly willing to pay > an 'expert' $70/hour + tax for good results. > > These were good results. > > They are: > > JM Technical Arts > 313 Rembrant Dr. > Old Hickory, TN 37138 > (615) 754-8323 > > Since Revox is no longer officially represented in the US excepting one > lonely dealer in Illinois, this is a place to have your vintage > equipment checked and serviced. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Thanks. I wasn't aware of them even thought they're just down the road >from me (around 30 miles east). jak Article: 331409 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 15:54:04 -0600 Message-ID: <24187-44188CFC-1486@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: I subscribe to DirecTV.Most of the movies on tv I ever watch are the old movies on the TCM,AMC or the FMC tv channels and sometimes I watch the two History channels and the Turner South channel or the Discovery channel or the National Geographic channel.Most of the old movies I like to watch are black and white movies.The only times I watch the ABC or CBS or NBC channels for only local and state news on tv. cuhulin Article: 331410 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4418914B.93A1B752@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Variac Recommendations? References: <1142304901.404630.315660@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:13:16 GMT Peter Wieck wrote: > > Mike: > > I am only repeating what the circuit is in mine (Heath IP5220). It uses > a 0-1A, dual-scale meter with a whopping dropping resistor that is > switched in and out of the circuit. That resistor barely gets warm, > BTW. If you would like, I would be glad to draw out the circuit and > send it to you. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA Draw it out if you want to, but you will find that it is in parallel with the ammeter, not in series. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331411 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4418924B.DD475261@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Heading to Florida/Charlotte References: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:17:32 GMT Mark Oppat wrote: > > Well, > loading up the Candyapple red Caravan and heading to FLA for some vacation > and will try to see several folks down there who frequent this group. > Dropping off some radios too, including a neat 1935 Silvertone Model 1822 > console, totally refinished (not by me) and restored (by me!) chassis. Pix > on the binaries. > > Then, up to Charlotte NC for the huge "Spring in the Carolinas" CC-AWA > swap! > > Hope to see many of you there... be sure to come by my knob and capacitors > booth usually in the middle of the lot! > > Mark Oppat (with wife Leann helping run the booth!) What parts of Florida are you going to visit? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331412 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Variac Recommendations? References: <1142304901.404630.315660@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142340095.682782.304710@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:06:31 GMT Shawn, buy this and save yourself a lot of trouble. Just add a socket to the output of your variac and plug this into it. You will be able to read volts, amps, watts, VA, and power factor. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6043936335 Shawn K wrote: > Well, now that we are on this topic, I have a variac that was given to > me over christmas, and I would like to make use of it. I know that it > supplies 0-140 volts AC, so I am looking around for a 150Vac meter. What > should I use for the amp meter? 0-1A or 0-3A, or is there a way to use > one meter and add a switch of some sort to change the range? I dug > around in my stuff and I have a 0-5A meter already. > > Peter Wieck wrote: >> RANT WARNING RANT WARNING RANT WARNING >> >> Well, I might spare you, IF: you have voltage _and_ current meters for >> this variac that are capable of accurately representing 0.01A and 2-3V >> AC. If you have this capacity and use it *every* time you use a variac, >> then ignore the following. >> >> Otherwise, a variac is worse-than-useless for radio work, fit only for >> dimming lights without excessive rF noise. I cannot think of a single >> use for them (without meters) that a dim-bulb tester will not do with >> equal accuracy, far greater safety and less cost (of course). The >> typical urban-myth uses for a variac: >> >> a) Apply power to a radio slowly to see how it starts without letting >> out the 'magic smoke': Yeah, right. How would you know unless you >> either see sparks (it's too late then), or have a current meter on the >> thing to see that it is pulling 65 watts when it really only should be >> 30. A radio might even work just-fine-and-hum-free as far as ears are >> concerned, but if it is pulling those extra 5-10 watts, that is all >> being expressed as heat somewhere, usually in an unobtaium part. Can >> you say *POOF*? >> >> b) Reforming caps: Unless a radio has a SS rectifier, this is simply >> silly. A tube rectifier won't pass current until about 75% or-so of >> rated filament voltage. So, hitting the caps with 75% of B+ hardly is a >> slow reform. >> >> c) Running radios at the "proper" voltage: Great, until they leave the >> bench. >> >> d) Dimming lights... Yep, that's what unmetered variacs are best at. >> Other thanbas ballast and as doorstops. >> >> END RANT >> >> In all seriousness, unmetered variacs are silly, stupid, dangerous >> items for electronics use, and for any of several reasons. Spend the >> money where it will do some good, such as an isolation transformer. If >> you have one of those, then look for a metered variac, or the meters to >> add to the one you have. >> Peter Wieck >> Wyncote, PA >> > > Article: 331414 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Variac Recommendations? Message-ID: References: <1142304901.404630.315660@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142340095.682782.304710@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:10:41 GMT On Wed, 15 Mar 2006 23:06:31 GMT, Lou deGonzague wrote: >Shawn, buy this and save yourself a lot of trouble. Just add a socket to >the output of your variac and plug this into it. You will be able to >read volts, amps, watts, VA, and power factor. >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6043936335 > That I just what I have plugged into my Variac, which is plugged into a 1KVA isolation Transformer. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 331415 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: The Darndest Hallicrafters, Update Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 09:38:50 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1142468921.798533.209100@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> wrote in message news:1142468921.798533.209100@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com... > My S22R turned out to have an open antenna coil on the broadcast band! > At first measurement, it was good, but it turns out it was > intermittent. After rewinding, it played on all bands. BUT.... This > receiver is extremely odd. With an IF at 1600 kc, it is hard to align > because we have a strong station at 1600 kc. I had to build a wavetrap > to knock out the 1600 kc in order to receive stations as high as 1390 > kc to set the oscillator and antenna/RF trimmers. Furthermore, with a > RF amp and two IF amps, I would expect better performance. But, it > plays across the bands worse than some 9 tube sets I have. Oh well, at > least it got a complete recap. What a hassle for a marginal radio. > Dave > I would have taken advantage of the station on 1600 to align the IF's by just clipping a wire onto the input of each stage, working back from the detector.. but I'm weird. :) Article: 331416 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Golfball Size Hail - two days in a row :-\ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:30:51 -0400 Message-ID: <121hfu9a80gha88@corp.supernews.com> References: <1030-441833BF-645@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> <18782-4418501E-274@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > The horses just had to fend for themselves in those hailstorms.It was > the cowboys who would hunker down under their saddles. > cuhulin > > So where's the ASPCA during all this? Was the inhumane event reported to the respective authorities? Horses have rights too, ya know. Thats why we in the US have the Democratic Party. What can be done to stop this. The Party, I mean...not the horses. -ex Article: 331417 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: Variac Recommendations? References: <1142304901.404630.315660@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142340095.682782.304710@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 01:52:35 GMT Now that looks like a good idea. What is the lowest current this thing can measure accurately? Lou deGonzague wrote: > Shawn, buy this and save yourself a lot of trouble. Just add a socket to > the output of your variac and plug this into it. You will be able to > read volts, amps, watts, VA, and power factor. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6043936335 -- Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Article: 331418 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Golfball Size Hail - two days in a row :-\ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:05:50 -0600 Message-ID: <17168-4418C7FE-381@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: Donkeys = Democrats,,,, Elephants = Republicans.They would be looking for a ScapeGoat to blame the Hailstones on. cuhulin Article: 331419 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Dangerous Color Telivision? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:24:47 -0400 Message-ID: <121hj3ejoou511f@corp.supernews.com> References: <5%jRf.8705$o41.3051@trnddc06> <1142282524.839742.319940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4Y-dnfMdwqUbJIvZnZ2dnUVZ_vudnZ2d@comcast.com> <121et0g1qlbmj37@corp.supernews.com> <121g6cprvct0oa3@corp.supernews.com> Brenda Ann wrote: >>No, I didn't question that part because you're correct. I'm saying the >>conversion to analog and subsequent transmission has nothing to do with >>adding "more room for loss or scrambled pixels in analog cable". If its >>screwed up with pixellation effects, its screwed up before going analog. >> >>-Bill > > > Agreed.. but let's try this to clarify my statement. > > In direct-to-home digital, there are not those extra steps of conversion > that add in (practically inevitable) additional artifacts that therefor > would not be there on direct-to-home that would be there on your analog > cable. One of the things I'm referring to is the fact that the cable system > adds noise that increases digital artifacts which you would not be dealing > with when using your Dish network or whatever satellite receiver (not that > the video from those is any prize). Don't take me wrong Bren...all beligerence aside I'm just nitpicking :) Nothing about an "analog cable system" increases digital artifacts by nature. Clearly (pun) increased noise as seen on the analog channels but the digital signals are basically transparent from the headend to the box...or even directly from the satellite to the box in most scenarios. There are situations where enough garbage could be introduced to make the receiving "cable box" misbehave but those are fault conditions, not basic delivery issues that confront a cable system. Typically a tier of digital channels is dumped into the upper bandwidth range of the cable system...above 450-500 MHz for example. Rarely are they remanipulated in any way other than for channel mapping purposes- what comes from the satellite is what you get...and there's often LESS compression on the cable feeds than with the DSS feeds. Nowadays, at least in the US, about 75% of your Basic Cable channels are received as digital and Basic Cable remains analog so yes, there's a conversion there but any digital (pixellation) deterioration stops at the minute its converted to analog....then you get the obligatory analog artifacts which is the bogeyman that the industry is trying desperatly to get away from. I work on headends and when final inspection time comes around I kinda duck my head when the bossman hits the analog received channels and asks "why does this channel look like crap?" And that only gets worse further out in the cable system. A digital signal converted to analog gets to looking worse too. A digital signal delivered digitally is immune to everything...except for fault conditions. The "cable" delivery system is the same. A typical small-medium sized cable system uses the HITS service for digital tiers. Thats basically a proprietary DSS system designed for cable use that ties into offsite billing etc. As example, I can put 100 digital channels into half a rack with a 2 foot dish on a wobbly fencepost while the analog service for 60 channels may take up a dozen racks and ten large dishes and a few tens of thousands of BTUs of temperature control and daily inspection. The digital stuff has NO adjustments whatsoever other than selecting the input and output channel. No video tweaking, no audio adjustment. Comes in from the little dish and comes out of a cable box in the customers home. I can't change anything about it! All that pixellation from scene changes or trying to track a disappearing hockey puck across the ice is on the production end and I agree, they have some more work to do to make it universally palatable...and thats why the cable feed sometimes looks as bad as the DSS feed although in theory, and with the current technology, it shouldn't be so. -Bill Article: 331420 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Golfball Size Hail - two days in a row :-\ Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:27:00 -0400 Message-ID: <121hj7gi3hdo38e@corp.supernews.com> References: <17168-4418C7FE-381@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > Donkeys = Democrats,,,, Elephants = Republicans.They would be looking > for a ScapeGoat to blame the Hailstones on. > cuhulin > A-RABS! -ex Article: 331421 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "t.hoehler" References: <1142370523.946952.130090@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1142467539.218284.101790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wire recorder project - success! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 02:31:41 GMT "Engineer" wrote in message news:1142467539.218284.101790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > What a great project! Many thanks for sharing it. > That first comedian... as an ex-Brit, I know the voice but I just > can't put a name to it. > Who was it sang "When I'm cleaning windows" to a ukelaly? George Formby > (sp?) Was it him? > Cheers, > Roger > Toronto, Canada. Hmmm, George Formby, wasn't that the guy who sold furniture refinishing kits on TV? Seems to me he was a great advocate of tung oil. Tom Article: 331422 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: "Spammer "66 fourdoor" finished. Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 02:50:02 GMT "Even Steven" wrote in message news:1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > Ebay finally took action. > Suspension is over, he's back in business. http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=66fourdoor jim menning Article: 331423 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4418DB1E.35B6E6BD@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Variac Recommendations? References: <1142304901.404630.315660@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:28:23 GMT Peter Wieck wrote: > > Mike, would a 50A wire-wound resistor be in parallel? The thing is > about the size of a short hot-dog. Google "Meter shunt". -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331424 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <14kc12po38aqqkhp697n66089j9fdi6l2g@4ax.com> <1142360253.596046.325710@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: what do you do? Message-ID: <865Sf.96108$oj5.35901@newsfe16.lga> Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 21:41:34 -0600 "philsvintageradios" wrote in message news:1142360253.596046.325710@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > what a shame. I saw the radio Nelson speaks of and it is beautiful. I > have a chassis like that, but finding a cabinet for it must be next to > impossible. it will be a sad day if that gets turned into a liquer > cabinet. > Phil Turns out the guy is an "electrical engineer" and wants to put modern components into the cabinet. He wouldn't buy the idea of a minor mod to run the output of his CD player and FM tuner into the original electronics. He's even keeping the original knobs to perpetrate the impression. He's dropping off the speaker and chassis here tomorrow. So, Eddie B... are you building any more washstands? ;>) Cheers, Nelson Article: 331425 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Tele-tone 195 From: "Alan R. Betz" Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:50:10 GMT Still looking for the schematic for a Tele-Tone 195 radio. Can anyone help? Regards, Alan Article: 331426 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Variac Recommendations? Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 20:54:38 -0700 Message-ID: <2683-4418E17E-1557@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: <4418DB1E.35B6E6BD@earthlink.net> I agree with Peter . I would like to add though .. a variac works great to slow down the belt sander and a couple other power tools . Article: 331427 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Anyone got one of these Airline dial glasses? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:10:21 GMT In article , brendad@shinbiro.com says... > > > >"Brenda Ann" wrote in message >news:dv2r4r$e5d$1@news2.kornet.net... >> http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Dial1.jpg >> >> http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/dial2.jpg >> >> http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Dial3.jpg this one should be simple to fix... #1.. scan the dial into Photoshop #2... fix the dial in Photoshop... make the crack go away and the tape .. and fix any lettering #3... reverse the image and save it in Photoshop #4... put that file on a CD #5... go to your local Kinkos and have them print it on a sheet of clear acetate paper... #6.... get new clear glass cut same size as original glass #7... peel off the backer paper from your acetate and stick it onto the glass... all done... viewed from the front you won't be able to tell that it isn't a reverse painted glass dial John k9uwa Article: 331428 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Anyone got one of these Airline dial glasses? Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:40:15 +0900 Message-ID: References: "John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird" wrote in message news:Ny5Sf.79279$Fw6.42329@tornado.tampabay.rr.com... > In article , brendad@shinbiro.com says... >> >> >> >>"Brenda Ann" wrote in message >>news:dv2r4r$e5d$1@news2.kornet.net... >>> http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Dial1.jpg >>> >>> http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/dial2.jpg >>> >>> http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Dial3.jpg > > this one should be simple to fix... > #1.. scan the dial into Photoshop > #2... fix the dial in Photoshop... make the crack go away and > the tape .. and fix any lettering > #3... reverse the image and save it in Photoshop > #4... put that file on a CD > #5... go to your local Kinkos and have them print it on a sheet > of clear acetate paper... > #6.... get new clear glass cut same size as original glass > #7... peel off the backer paper from your acetate and stick > it onto the glass... > > all done... viewed from the front you won't be able to tell that > it isn't a reverse painted glass dial > That's a good plan.. I may give the photoshopping a try. But how do you get rid of the background that shows up? I'm not that good at manipulating photos. The part that would be the biggest drawback is that I got no Kinko's (or anything like one) anywhere near here. Prolly something similar up in Seoul, but I'd play havoc finding it. For those uninitiated, Korea is the (euphamistically speaking) place referred to in the song "Where the streets have no name".. makes it really hard to find anything while hoofing it, let alone in the phone book.. :) Article: 331429 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Anyone got one of these Airline dial glasses? Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 00:47:07 -0400 Message-ID: <121hre987jhv10e@corp.supernews.com> References: John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird wrote: > all done... viewed from the front you won't be able to tell that > it isn't a reverse painted glass dial > > John k9uwa > John, with all due respect, that dial is mostly clear space and any decal or 'sandwich' will look like crap. You're dead on for dials with little clear area, tho. O'course which is worse...a clean crack on an original dial or a homemade acetate replica? I can't answer that. -Bill Article: 331430 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Tele-tone 195 Message-ID: <7h6Sf.28668$ty4.6542@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 04:59:47 GMT "Alan R. Betz" wrote in message news:Xns9787C9C34B2DAarbetztelusnet@198.80.55.250... > Still looking for the schematic for a Tele-Tone 195 radio. Can > anyone help? > Regards, Alan It's in Sam's Photofact #71-15. jim menning Article: 331431 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Scott Irvine Subject: Re: Hurry, only 10,000 kits available! References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 05:53:22 GMT Robert Murrell wrote: > They are cheaper in Japan, where the kit originates. Gakken makes adult > science kits. I purchased and built on of their crystal radio kits from > this same outfit. Not the best crystal radio performance-wise. But it was > fun to build and looks cool. The kits are very popular in Japan, so I think > they will sell them all. > > "jim menning" wrote in message > news:m8FRf.28596$ty4.19063@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > >>Not trying to spam here, I just found this to be tremendously optimistic. >> >>At $129.99 + shipping, how many of these are they really going to be able >>to sell? >> >>http://www.karakuricorner.com/catalog/vacuumradio.jpg >> >>http://www.karakuricorner.com/servlet/the-315/Vacuum-Tube-Radio-1920/Detail >> >>jim menning >> > > > Now I feel dumb for asking my wife to get me the one tube Radio ace kit that I got for Christmas for about the same price. Scott Irvine Article: 331432 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "k35454" References: <1142370523.946952.130090@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1142467539.218284.101790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wire recorder project - success! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 22:20:55 -0800 "Engineer" wrote in message news:1142467539.218284.101790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... What a great project! Many thanks for sharing it. That first comedian... as an ex-Brit, I know the voice but I just can't put a name to it. Who was it sang "When I'm cleaning windows" to a ukelaly? George Formby (sp?) Was it him? Cheers, Roger Toronto, Canada. It was. He made movies during WW2 and LP & 78rpm records afterward. k35454. Article: 331433 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Hurry, only 10,000 kits available! Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 02:34:53 -0400 Message-ID: <121i1ocjsh4s2b6@corp.supernews.com> References: Scott Irvine wrote: >>> >>> At $129.99 + shipping, how many of these are they really going to be >>> able to sell? >> > Now I feel dumb for asking my wife to get me the one tube Radio ace kit > that I got for Christmas for about the same price. > Scott Irvine I don't think thats dumb at all. I spawn off my simple hand-hewned projects at similar prices and I think thats realistic. There's a market...maybe not 10,000 buyers (in the wildest oriental dream) but jeezus...no naysayer here would pony up to whip together a kit for you at $129. -Bill Article: 331434 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Scott Irvine Subject: Re: Hurry, only 10,000 kits available! References: <121i1ocjsh4s2b6@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:48:28 GMT - exray - wrote: > Scott Irvine wrote: > >>>> >>>> At $129.99 + shipping, how many of these are they really going to be >>>> able to sell? >>> >>> >> Now I feel dumb for asking my wife to get me the one tube Radio ace >> kit that I got for Christmas for about the same price. >> Scott Irvine > > > I don't think thats dumb at all. I spawn off my simple hand-hewned > projects at similar prices and I think thats realistic. There's a > market...maybe not 10,000 buyers (in the wildest oriental dream) but > jeezus...no naysayer here would pony up to whip together a kit for you > at $129. > > -Bill I didn't really mean it to sound as bad as it did. I love my one tube radio ace. I think its a really nice radio. Scott Article: 331435 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Clive" Subject: Re: Wire recorder project - success! Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:44:17 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1142370523.946952.130090@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1142467539.218284.101790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Engineer" wrote in message news:1142467539.218284.101790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > What a great project! Many thanks for sharing it. > That first comedian... as an ex-Brit, I know the voice but I just > can't put a name to it. > Who was it sang "When I'm cleaning windows" to a ukelaly? George Formby > (sp?) Was it him? > Cheers, > Roger > Toronto, Canada. > Nah, thats not George Formby, but he sure has the same Lancashire / Mancurian accent.... I am struggling to think of any other Northern comeidians from that era.... Either way, this is probably the only remaining copy of that broadcast so it is possible that the BBC or one of the national radio archives may be interested. //Clive. Article: 331436 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Those famous Waltons Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 08:02:54 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: There's currently a 7S232 on eBay where it's mentioned this style of set was used in the movie "Tora Tora Tora". Is this true? I never saw the flick, but I can see a "Walton" fitting in there better than in the eponymous television show. I'd imagine there might be some decent chances for radio sightings in that movie. And now from the humor department (sorry, couldn't resist): http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6613485118 "Spark Worthington, founder of Sparton of Canada Ltd. London Ontario, started making radios in 1926, so this is one of the first ones made." Well. Can't argue with logic like that! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331437 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Those famous Waltons References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 07:24:02 -0500 This guy is in for an education. Ken Tim Mullen wrote: > There's currently a 7S232 on eBay where it's mentioned this style of > set was used in the movie "Tora Tora Tora". Is this true? I never saw > the flick, but I can see a "Walton" fitting in there better than in the > eponymous television show. I'd imagine there might be some decent chances > for radio sightings in that movie. > > > > And now from the humor department (sorry, couldn't resist): > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6613485118 > > "Spark Worthington, founder of Sparton of Canada Ltd. London Ontario, > started making radios in 1926, so this is one of the first ones made." > > Well. Can't argue with logic like that! > Article: 331438 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Anyone got one of these Airline dial glasses? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:04:51 GMT In article , brendad@shinbiro.com says... > > > >That's a good plan.. I may give the photoshopping a try. But how do you get >rid of the background that shows up? I'm not that good at manipulating >photos. > find spot on the dial that is correct... background is correct... copy and paste it into space on the dial that is wrong.. like to cover crack and where that tape is ... for the printing your looking for a good printer... sorry don't remember what the difference here is... and that depends on the color of the dial... with gold being a bit hard to get correctly reproduced... In the olden days... we would just grab a Kimchi Cab and tell the driver where we wanted to go... John Article: 331439 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Those famous Waltons From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: <5zdSf.79299$Fw6.54442@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:16:49 GMT In article , tim@panix.com says... > > > Think I remember seeing the Walton radio on the Japanese Ship in Tora, Tora, Tora ... thats funny about the early... one of the first... 1926 Clock Radios with small tubes to be sure... newbie ebay seller has grandeur ideas of making his fortune on ebay... John k9uwa /w4 > There's currently a 7S232 on eBay where it's mentioned this style of > And now from the humor department (sorry, couldn't resist): > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6613485118 > >"Spark Worthington, founder of Sparton of Canada Ltd. London Ontario, >started making radios in 1926, so this is one of the first ones made." > > Tim Mullen Article: 331440 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Variac Recommendations? References: <1142304901.404630.315660@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142340095.682782.304710@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 13:42:07 GMT It goes down to .01 amps. I measured a 7 watt nite light and was within 1 watt. It seems to be very accurate above the 10 watt range. Shawn K wrote: > Now that looks like a good idea. What is the lowest current this thing > can measure accurately? > > Lou deGonzague wrote: >> Shawn, buy this and save yourself a lot of trouble. Just add a socket >> to the output of your variac and plug this into it. You will be able >> to read volts, amps, watts, VA, and power factor. >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6043936335 > > > Article: 331441 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Those famous Waltons References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:59:41 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > "Spark Worthington, founder of Sparton of Canada Ltd. London Ontario, > started making radios in 1926, so this is one of the first ones made." That's too funny. The minature tubes were way ahead of thier time. Anybody knw what that radio model really is? I'll be happy to send him a link to what he has. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331442 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Those famous Waltons Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:10:13 -0400 Message-ID: <121j3f257lpfjab@corp.supernews.com> References: Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Tim Mullen wrote: > >> "Spark Worthington, founder of Sparton of Canada Ltd. London Ontario, >> started making radios in 1926, so this is one of the first ones made." > > > That's too funny. The minature tubes were way ahead of thier time. > > Anybody knw what that radio model really is? I'll be happy to send > him a link to what he has. > > Jeff > he/she is getting plenty of *input* from the Forum gang. http://antiqueradios.com/forums/Forum14/HTML/003393.html What a maroon! -Bill Article: 331443 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:33:15 -0600 Message-ID: <18781-4419934B-1274@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: google,North Dakota Blimps for Cell Phones cuhulin Article: 331444 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <121j3f257lpfjab@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Those famous Waltons Message-ID: Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 16:52:29 GMT Why not? This is obviously a technical milestone, a radio far ahead of its time for 1926! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "- exray -" wrote in message news:121j3f257lpfjab@corp.supernews.com... > Jeffrey D Angus wrote: >> Tim Mullen wrote: >> >>> "Spark Worthington, founder of Sparton of Canada Ltd. London Ontario, >>> started making radios in 1926, so this is one of the first ones made." >> >> >> That's too funny. The minature tubes were way ahead of thier time. >> >> Anybody knw what that radio model really is? I'll be happy to send >> him a link to what he has. >> >> Jeff >> > > he/she is getting plenty of *input* from the Forum gang. > http://antiqueradios.com/forums/Forum14/HTML/003393.html > > What a maroon! > > > -Bill Article: 331445 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: szekeres@pitt.edu (GregS) Subject: Re: Variac Recommendations? Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 17:38:19 GMT Message-ID: References: <1142304901.404630.315660@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> In article <1142304901.404630.315660@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com>, "RadioGary" wrote: >Well, the time has come for a new variac. Old one is either lost, >sold, or I just don't know where the heck I put it. Any >recommendations? Just need it for basic old radio repair. Right now >looking at a PHILMORE 48-1205 available at our local Frye's Electronics >in the Chicago area. Any other suggestions would be appreciated. >Thanks, GB. > This is what I recommend. I added the isolation transformer. http://zekfrivolous.com/misc/staco.JPG greg Article: 331446 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Al Z." References: Subject: Re: Those famous Waltons Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 14:13:22 -0500 Message-ID: <4419ba7b$0$944$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> He's probably one of those "Zero Feedback" scammers. Every once in a while some clown opens up a new account and puts up for auction some common item with a outrageously high opening bid hoping to rope in some sucker who is taken in by the sellers hype of the item. "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:dvb63e$dac$1@reader2.panix.com... > > There's currently a 7S232 on eBay where it's mentioned this style of > set was used in the movie "Tora Tora Tora". Is this true? I never saw > the flick, but I can see a "Walton" fitting in there better than in the > eponymous television show. I'd imagine there might be some decent chances > for radio sightings in that movie. > > > > And now from the humor department (sorry, couldn't resist): > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6613485118 > > "Spark Worthington, founder of Sparton of Canada Ltd. London Ontario, > started making radios in 1926, so this is one of the first ones made." > > Well. Can't argue with logic like that! > > -- > Tim Mullen > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. > ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 331447 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Re: Radio/Phono shows Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 12:58:56 -0700 Message-ID: <2683-4419C380-1682@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: <8g%Rf.11784$Eg2.1104@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Thank you all I will see if I can figure out an itinerary that will include a couple of these shows. DON AC7PD Article: 331448 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Those famous Waltons Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:44:49 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4419ba7b$0$944$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> >"Tim Mullen" wrote in message >news:dvb63e$dac$1@reader2.panix.com... >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6613485118 In <4419ba7b$0$944$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> "Al Z." writes: >He's probably one of those "Zero Feedback" scammers. >Every once in a while some clown opens up a new account and puts up >for auction some common item with a outrageously high opening bid hoping to >rope in some sucker who is taken in by the sellers hype of the item. Oh, I don't know. I'm a bit more sanguine in cases like this. I think the seller just Doesn't Know. Antique collecting, for the majority of the population, is an unknown niche. We here inhabit a niche-of-a-niche. For most folks it's a wild, perplexing world. Is a radio worth $2? $20,000? Yes, you'd think people would do a smidgen of research. The price they pay for not doing so is looking foolish. But I don't think there's any ill intent. Then again, I tend to be an optimist in human nature. But I do have a cynical side (who knew?) that can rephrase the above into the famous quote "Never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence." -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331449 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Those famous Waltons Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 21:51:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <5zdSf.79299$Fw6.54442@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> In <5zdSf.79299$Fw6.54442@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) writes: >In article , tim@panix.com says... >> >> There's currently a 7S232 on eBay >Think I remember seeing the Walton radio on the Japanese Ship in >Tora, Tora, Tora ... Really! I would've expected it show up in, oh, I don't know, some Admiral's home, or something. Then again, I might see where an AD would pick a Walton for the Japanese. It certainly has a flair and styling that sets it apart from many western radios, and could therefore look more foreign. Or perhaps they were returning the #@!%& thing to the manufacturer, with a vengeance? :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331450 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: mark@NOSPAMmarktitterington.com (Mark T) Subject: Need knobs and escutcheon for GE J805 console. Close=OK too. Message-ID: <4419f162.246441444@news.east.cox.net> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:18:22 GMT Need knobs and escutcheon for GE J805 console. Although the customer and I would prefer the exact knobs, anything close will do. It's a plastic knob with pointer, fits on a "D" shaft. The escutcheon got smashed when the knobs got broken. I can sort of fix it for him, but it would be better to get one in good shape off another radio. Email me mark@riPANTStradingco.com Drop PANTS before emailing me. :-) Mark RI Trading Co Article: 331451 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: mark@NOSPAMmarktitterington.com (Mark T) Subject: How rare is a Plaza Radio 49-A??? Message-ID: <4419f263.246698663@news.east.cox.net> Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 23:21:21 GMT It's a neat little AC-only portable 5-tube TRF. I'm just starting the clean-up now but it looks like it will play nice. I'm just curious how rare this baby is, I have not seen on anywhere. Mark RI Trading CO mark@riPANTStradingco.com Drop PANTS when emailing me Article: 331452 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: thick lead tube shield? Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:37:05 -0800 Message-ID: <25819-4419F6A1-774@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> References: Phil, The lead shield provides vibrational damping. Evidently there had been a problem with microphonic 'FMing' of the osc. tube. Bill(oc) Article: 331453 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <14kc12po38aqqkhp697n66089j9fdi6l2g@4ax.com> <1142360253.596046.325710@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <865Sf.96108$oj5.35901@newsfe16.lga> Subject: Re: what do you do? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:11:25 GMT "Nelson Gietz" wrote in message news:865Sf.96108$oj5.35901@newsfe16.lga... > > "philsvintageradios" wrote in message > news:1142360253.596046.325710@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> what a shame. I saw the radio Nelson speaks of and it is beautiful. I >> have a chassis like that, but finding a cabinet for it must be next to >> impossible. it will be a sad day if that gets turned into a liquer >> cabinet. >> Phil > > Turns out the guy is an "electrical engineer" and wants to put modern > components > into the cabinet. He wouldn't buy the idea of a minor mod to run the output > of his > CD player and FM tuner into the original electronics. He's even keeping the > original knobs to perpetrate the impression. > He's dropping off the speaker and chassis here tomorrow. > So, Eddie B... are you building any more washstands? ;>) > Cheers, > Nelson > > http://nosuchmedia.com/tjt/bm/radio/ jim menning Article: 331454 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" Subject: FADA 1000 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 01:57:27 GMT I just finished a little clean up on a FADA 1000 Bullet. What do you guys think? http://radioheaven.homestead.com/FADA1000.html Ron PS, It's for sale. Article: 331455 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1142560586.732491.156720@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Replacement Caps 27000uf 30vdc Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 02:22:27 GMT wrote in message news:1142560586.732491.156720@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com... > > Hey > Wrong group??? http://groups.google.com/groups?q=chips4sle@aol.com&hl=en jim menning Article: 331456 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" Subject: Eddie B, this one's for you! Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 02:43:48 GMT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6614155978 Article: 331457 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: FADA 1000 Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 02:51:39 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In " Ron in Radio Heaven" writes: >I just finished a little clean up on a FADA 1000 Bullet. >What do you guys think? >http://radioheaven.homestead.com/FADA1000.html Nice job. She's a beauty! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331458 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Variac Recommendations? Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 20:18:40 -0700 Message-ID: <25087-441A2A90-169@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> References: <1142558809.063570.271430@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Agree all you want, but the only way to increase the range of any ammeter is to add a shunt in parallel. I replace the bad parts in the radio & plug it in . Always works for tube radios . Article: 331459 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Those famous Waltons From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <5zdSf.79299$Fw6.54442@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 04:38:17 GMT In article , tim@panix.com says... > > > Really! I would've expected it show up in, oh, I don't know, >some Admiral's home, > > Tim Mullen think that it WAS in the Admirals Office... the Japanese Admiral.. on the Ship... John Article: 331460 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: schliemen@webtv.net Subject: Re: Those famous Waltons Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 00:48:09 -0500 Message-ID: <28052-441A4D99-2018@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net> References: the japs were listening to a walton in just one scene i think.it was on a shelf on one of their carriers Article: 331462 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <441a8fba$0$11064$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Replacement Caps 27000uf 30vdc References: <1142560586.732491.156720@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> Date: 17 Mar 2006 10:30:18 GMT jim menning wrote: >> 27000u 30V > Wrong group??? I guess so, but apart from arcade machines I have seen caps in this capacity range (but with a lower working voltage) being used as a (I think) vertical coupling cap in some old Philips vacuum-tube colour televisions. K7 or K8 chassis I think. Maybe not really vintage but 30+ years anyway. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 331463 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: Antique Radio Auction - Upstate NY Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 11:04:21 GMT They've added tons more pictures. This one catches my eye: http://www.bostwickauctions.com/images/march%2018%20photos/3-18%209%20radio%2016.jpg Is this a combination wire recorder and record player? Any idea what model it is? Jon "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:dv520i$otf$1@reader2.panix.com... > In "Jon" > writes: > >>Every year, a local auction house here in upstate New York holds an >>antique >>radio and ugly furniture radio. There are typically hundreds of radios and > > http://bostwickauctions.com/images/march%2018%20photos/3-18%20ugly%206.jpg > > That's... um, that's... uh... wow. > > -- > Tim Mullen > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. > ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331464 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: Subject: Re: Eddie B, this one's for you! Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 11:33:02 GMT "jim menning" wrote in message news:EnpSf.29384$ty4.12879@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6614155978 > > I bought some items from this guy last fall. He is a heck of a nice guy and a first rate seller. That is a beautiful radio. Looks like he did a great restoration job. More $$$ then I can afford though. Larry Fowkes Article: 331465 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Eddie B, this one's for you! Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:51:13 -0500 Message-ID: <121lc69i0fa0v1b@corp.supernews.com> References: <1142568969.365322.131530@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> <1142591926.855638.303160@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "One of the best" ???? There AREN'T any better ones! John H. "The Philco Guy" wrote in message news:1142591926.855638.303160@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > It sure is a nice radio. One of the best Philco sets I've ever seen. > Wish I had the money though. > Article: 331466 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Eddie B, this one's for you! Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 07:52:25 -0500 Message-ID: <121lc8gsn7fdu52@corp.supernews.com> References: <1142568969.365322.131530@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> They DON'T really............ Steve Reeves" wrote in message news:1142568969.365322.131530@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com... > Should the four passive radiators be mounted in an air tight > compartment like modern one are? If not how do they work? Article: 331467 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1142568969.365322.131530@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> <1142591926.855638.303160@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <121lc69i0fa0v1b@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Eddie B, this one's for you! Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:13:11 GMT "Hagstar" wrote in message news:121lc69i0fa0v1b@corp.supernews.com... > "The Philco Guy" wrote in message > news:1142591926.855638.303160@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> It sure is a nice radio. One of the best Philco sets I've ever seen. >> Wish I had the money though. >> > > > "One of the best" ???? There AREN'T any better ones! > > John H. How many Philcos do you think the average 16-year old Australian identity-morphing poster has seen? When I challenged this poster last week about using multiple identities when posting here, and registering gmail accounts in San Diego, CA as well as in Australia, here are some of the many answers I got back from him: "Oh just experimenting with Google Accounts, thats all." " I do live in Australia but not in Sydney. I live south in a city called Shellharbour near Wollongong in New South Wales. I am changing my location entry so it is correct." "Maybe it was because I wanted to fool people just for something to do. It certainly didn't fool you! lol. You don't have to worry anyway I'm only using this address to post stuff to the Groups and for the web. The other email address is strictly for personal stuff." "You don't have to worry anyway, I am only a 16 year old with nothing else to do than to fool people." To our 16 year old visitor: Dave, you really ought to post under your own name and also change your fake email name(s). You have nothing to do with being the "Philco Guy", "Philco Radios", or "philcoradios". Your use of those names implies you have some specialized knowledge or collecting interest in them. You have neither. Stick to your real name and email address that you have already posted here under (dhenning2005@gmail.com). There is no need to set up separate aliases to pretend to be more than one person in this group. If you want to really join our group and learn about radios, do it honestly and openly. Morphing identities and posting as though you have some real radio experience are not ways in which you will be welcomed. Be yourself, a curious 16 year old, and quit playing these posting games. If you really want to learn about radios, Google is probably the #1 resource the hobby currently has. We are certainly another very valuable asset for those interested in radios, but as I emailed you privately: "I think you owe us an explanation before we spend any more of our time either helping or entertaining you." If you are serious, please act that way. jim menning Article: 331468 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <441AC7A9.45362E7E@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Variac Recommendations? References: <1142558809.063570.271430@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <25087-441A2A90-169@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:29:38 GMT "Ken G." wrote: > > Agree all you want, but the only way to increase the range of any > ammeter is to add a shunt in parallel. > > I replace the bad parts in the radio & plug it in . Always works for > tube radios . That's it Ken. Change the subject rather than admit you're wrong. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331469 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Antique Radio Auction - Upstate NY From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 15:45:25 GMT In article , jon@NOscapturaSPAM.com says... > > > >Jon That is one of the higher end Silvertone Tombstones setting under that white Mic Radio in this picture Whole bunch of nice pieces there.... goodluck to all that are going to attend this one.... nice AK Cathedral, several Philco cathedrals including a pretty decent looking 20 deluxe ... John k9uwa/w4 Article: 331470 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: thick lead tube shield? Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 08:04:51 -0800 Message-ID: <5854-441ADE23-4@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> References: <1142600326.053806.85730@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> >From Peter W.: >Um.... Television.... >Radiation?? >Lead is costly to handle and apply. Cuttin' lead pipe into 2" long cylinders doesn't sound unreasonably high tech. >It would never have been used without a >specific need. ...microphonics in an >oscillator tube? AF maybe.... 'FM-ing' of the LO due to a microphonic tube could certainly be problematic in a non-intercarrier (dedicated sound IF) set. Dunno for sure whether Phil's set has intercarrier sound or not (suspect it doesn't). oc Article: 331471 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Variac Recommendations? Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 09:55:19 -0700 Message-ID: <25568-441AE9F7-2216@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: <441AC7A9.45362E7E@earthlink.net> Change the subject .... ummm the subject is a variac . I should have said .... I replace the bad parts in the radio & plug it in ``without a variac or ammeter`` . Always works for tube radios here and has for 30 years . Article: 331472 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Lyndell Scott" References: <1142600282.260552.197770@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Eddie B, this one's for you! Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:37:19 GMT A few years ago while looking through Ron Ramirez' book on Philco radios, I came across the photo of a 38-690. The cabinet had such an appeal to me that I hoped one day to have the opportunity to restore one. I have no interest in owning a radio, just enjoy the restoration process. A few months ago, the opportunity came to me when a person from Austin brought one to me for restoration. It had been in his family and his Grandfather or some relative had removed the chassis with the intent of converting it into a liquor cabinet. Fortunately he never got around to it and the only thing missing was the burled front panel which I was able to reconstruct. He had purchased a second chassis off Ebay and brought it along with the original. I think I restored his orignal chassis so he ended up with an intact second chassis. It is a great performing radio, but I can't say whether the passive radiators add anything or not. A photo can be seen at the Radio Attic at http://radioatticarchives.com/images/p/Philco_38-690_Scott.jpg . -- Lyndell Scott Audio Antiques http://home.flash.net/~lfscott/ Article: 331473 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Antique Radio Auction - Upstate NY Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:44:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "Jon" writes: >They've added tons more pictures. This one catches my eye: >http://www.bostwickauctions.com/images/march%2018%20photos/3-18%209%20radio%2016.jpg >Is this a combination wire recorder and record player? Any idea what model >it is? I noticed that, too. There's also a timer on the front, and perhaps an eye tube above it? I thought the large platter toward the back was simply a take-up spool for the wire recorder, and not a record player. I'm not very familiar with wire recorders, however. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331474 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Variac Recommendations? Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <441AC7A9.45362E7E@earthlink.net> <25568-441AE9F7-2216@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> In <25568-441AE9F7-2216@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) writes: >I replace the bad parts in the radio I think you're on to something here, Ken. In fact, I bet your technique could be used on any electronic device. You should patent it! :) :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331475 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Antique Radio Auction - Upstate NY References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:55:51 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > I noticed that, too. There's also a timer on the front, and perhaps > an eye tube above it? I thought the large platter toward the back was > simply a take-up spool for the wire recorder, and not a record player. > I'm not very familiar with wire recorders, however. Funny, when I first clicked on that on that link, I thought, "Silvertone". Then I saw the Silvertone logo on the paper manual. I used to have a couple of those combination record player and wire recorders. Quite the interesting set up at the time. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331476 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Antique Radio Auction - Upstate NY Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:58:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In Jeffrey D Angus writes: >I used to have a couple of those combination record player >and wire recorders. Quite the interesting set up at the time. So that is a record player? Any idea what the timer might be for? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331477 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Antique Radio Auction - Upstate NY References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:02:37 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > So that is a record player? Any idea what the timer might > be for? *grins* Think TiVo.... to record your favorite radio shows of course. ;-) Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331478 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Mikael Carlsson Subject: Somewhat OT: Nixieclock, tube driven, no semiconductors Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:06:58 +0100 Message-ID: <480fmiFhe8g6U1@individual.net> Have a look at this Nixieclock, it is all tubedriven: "A completely digital clock without any semiconductors. No ICs, no micros, no transistors, not even a diode! The only silicon is in the glass of the 40 glorious electron and Nixie display tubes!" http://www.eldocountry.com/projects/tubeclock.html Sincerely, Mikael Article: 331479 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Antique Radio Auction - Upstate NY References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:51:15 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > Ah! So there's a radio in there, too. Records are time > invariant, so that threw me. I don't think there's a radio in that unit. I suspect it has an "auxiliary" input, along with microphone and record layer. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331480 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: thick lead tube shield? Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 12:16:49 -0800 Message-ID: <5851-441B1931-942@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> References: <1142612729.116736.149940@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> From: bhagen@msn.com (BH) >...remember that the 630 chassis, as did >many others at that time, uses a >seperate sound section unlike the later >sets where the sound followed the video. >A microphonic 6J6 could be seen in the >picture. Seems like it would affect the sound more prominently, in a non-intercarrier chassis. When Phil gets the picture and sound going, maybe he could try tapping the 6J6 without the lead sleeve, and see what the effect if any would be. oc Article: 331481 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <480fmiFhe8g6U1@individual.net> Subject: Re: Somewhat OT: Nixieclock, tube driven, no semiconductors Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 14:58:55 -0600 Message-ID: <441b241d$0$9579$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> > "A completely digital clock without any semiconductors. Bah. They've been making those for years. http://www.telechron.net/goldenage/8b01.htm ;-) That clock is just too cool. Still, since this gentleman apparently doesn't have enough to occupy his time, he can come to my house and watch my kids while I get some sleep and tackle the projects on the first ten pages of chapter 1 of the honey-do list. Help balance the world out a little bit. paul *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 331482 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Somewhat OT: Nixieclock, tube driven, no semiconductors Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:16:59 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <480fmiFhe8g6U1@individual.net> <441b241d$0$9579$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> In <441b241d$0$9579$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> "Paul Dietenberger" writes: >That clock is just too cool. Still, since this gentleman apparently doesn't >have enough to occupy his time, he can come to my house and watch my kids >while I get some sleep and tackle the projects on the first ten pages of >chapter 1 of the honey-do list. Help balance the world out a little bit. Hey, give him the benefit of the doubt. For all we know he polished this off in a weekend or two. :) Remember eddie and his 24-hour-or-so ground-up Neutrodyne (I think) restoration? Imagine if those two got together! The world would run out of un-restored radios. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331483 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: How to tell where smoke is coming from? Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:35:16 -0400 Message-ID: <121med856luf928@corp.supernews.com> References: Blacksmith wrote: > However, the eye tube doesn't light, but it does in the tube tester. > Are these prone to shorting out or something? > > Can someone give me a hint? I've spent hours on this radio 2 years ago > and put it aside, now I'm spending hours again. > > Help? > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Doesn't light the filament or doesn't light the green phosphor? That right there will tell you if its the filament wiring or the B+ wiring and give a direction in which to proceed. I've never had one short but I've worked on several radios where the harness had been burnt by something. In fact just last night I replaced the harness in one of my sets because the shrink-tube to wire ratio was getting out of control! Is the radio working? Maybe a bad tube socket? -Bill Article: 331484 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: How to tell where smoke is coming from? Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 17:03:17 -0600 Message-ID: <23728-441B4035-1776@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <121med856luf928@corp.supernews.com> I would never use shrink wrapping to replace the covering on old wire.I would use new wire with the factory covering.For very short bits of bare wire,I always use good old fashioned friction tape.But that is only my opinion. cuhulin Article: 331485 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1142568969.365322.131530@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> <121lc8gsn7fdu52@corp.supernews.com> <1142613302.459013.229420@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Eddie B, this one's for you! Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:22:16 -0500 "Steve Reeves" wrote in message news:1142613302.459013.229420@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hagstar Replied:"They DON'T really............ " > > Oh I see. It's sort of like using an inflated tube count a selling > point? I just noticed the two power transformers/rectifiers in the > pictures. What no shadow meter? Got to pull the schematic for it and > check it out. I like the sound of my 37-630. Big Philco table top. Bet > the 38-690 sounds even better. > Regards, > Steven Reeves > Centralia Wa If it has magnetic tuning, the shadow meter would be a mute feature.... > Article: 331486 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1142568969.365322.131530@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> <121lc8gsn7fdu52@corp.supernews.com> <1142613302.459013.229420@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Eddie B, this one's for you! Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 18:40:55 -0500 " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:IwHSf.93455$bF.71332@dukeread07... > > > If it has magnetic tuning, the shadow meter would be a mute feature.... > MOOT feature. MOOT not mute! Jeezus, another brainfart. I am going senile. > Article: 331487 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "k35454" References: Subject: Re: How to tell where smoke is coming from? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:16:08 -0800 "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:qham129fi6kefbjaoof1snu9evlhfur4jq@4ax.com... Is there a good trick? I have a Lafayette Model D-42 that smokes around the base of the 6SQ7 tube. I can see smoke coming from an area about 1 inch square but not exactly where. After I unplug, I stick my finger in and nothing is even warm to the touch. The 6U5 eye tube wires come through a hole in the chassis near there and some connect to the tube socket, but none are chaffing on the edge of the hole, the tubes all check out with no shorts, even the eye tube. However, the eye tube doesn't light, but it does in the tube tester. Are these prone to shorting out or something? Why not try this: Turn set OFF. Remove 6U5. Check for shorts to filament connx from either side (if fil are 2&7, check 2 to 3 or 1, 7 to 8 or 6). If no short, leave 6U5 out, turn set ON. Smoke ?. Report back. k35454. Can someone give me a hint? I've spent hours on this radio 2 years ago and put it aside, now I'm spending hours again. Help? Blacksmith wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Article: 331488 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1142640432.391284.13870@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: model number for 11 tube Lyric? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:29:08 GMT "PhilcoKid2" wrote in message news:1142640432.391284.13870@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... > > I am working on a Lyric for a customer. I can find a10 tube under > American Mohawk but, nothing for an 11. It has an 80, 2 45's, and 8 > 27's... > > Just love this early stuff. > > Thanks, > Donald Cochrane > I'm assuming you have double-checked your count? The model 90 (10-tube) is the closest I see in Rider's. jim menning Article: 331489 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1142640057.382977.301760@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 78rpm LP's-singles-70+ disks-1900-50 era-CHEAP- Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:31:51 -0500 Same spammer, new ID... Article: 331490 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: "Spammer "66 fourdoor" finished. Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:33:39 -0500 "jim menning" wrote in message news:un4Sf.28661$ty4.24936@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Even Steven" wrote in message > news:1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > > Ebay finally took action. > > > > Suspension is over, he's back in business. > > http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=66fourdoor > > jim menning > > Looks like he's back here with more fake aliases.. Same nonsense. Article: 331491 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: Antique Radio Auction - Upstate NY Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:39:09 GMT This one? http://www.bostwickauctions.com/images/march%2018%20photos/3-18%208%20radio%202.jpg What model is that? Jon "John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird" wrote in message news:pQASf.83056$g47.47206@tornado.tampabay.rr.com... > In article , > jon@NOscapturaSPAM.com > says... >> >> >> >>Jon > > > That is one of the higher end Silvertone Tombstones setting under that > white Mic Radio in this picture > .jpg> > > Whole bunch of nice pieces there.... goodluck to all that are going to > attend this one.... nice AK Cathedral, several Philco cathedrals including > a pretty decent looking 20 deluxe ... > > John k9uwa/w4 > Article: 331492 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Somewhat OT: Nixieclock, tube driven, no semiconductors Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 02:16:00 +0100 Message-ID: References: <480fmiFhe8g6U1@individual.net> Mikael Carlsson wrote: > Have a look at this Nixieclock, it is all tubedriven: > > "A completely digital clock without any semiconductors. No ICs, no > micros, no transistors, not even a diode! The only silicon is in the > glass of the 40 glorious electron and Nixie display tubes!" > > http://www.eldocountry.com/projects/tubeclock.html > > Sincerely, > Mikael Mikael, if you are the constructor of this famous clock: here is a colleague of you http://www.jogis-roehrenbude.de/Leserbriefe/Bruegmann-Digital-Roehren- Clock/pic001.jpg Unfortunately the link to the complete story is blocked. Go to http://www.jogis-roehrenbude.de (German language only) and search for nixieclock. Kind Regards Georg Article: 331493 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Somewhat OT: Nixieclock, tube driven, no semiconductors Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:30:29 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <480fmiFhe8g6U1@individual.net> In "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> writes: >http://www.jogis-roehrenbude.de/Leserbriefe/Bruegmann-Digital-Roehren-Clock/pic001.jpg That one looks like it's stereo. Either this or the monoblock would be right at home in a high-end audio store. Bet you'd sell a couple. Damn cool-looking. Of course, in a double-blind test no one would be able to tell which one gave more accurate time, but that's not always the point. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331494 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Somewhat OT: Nixieclock, tube driven, no semiconductors Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 02:28:18 +0100 Message-ID: References: <480fmiFhe8g6U1@individual.net> > Unfortunately the link to the complete story is blocked. Many ways are guiding to Rome: here we are http://www.jogis-roehrenbude.de/Leserbriefe/Bruegmann-Digital-Roehren- Clock/Digital-Roehrenuhr.htm Georg Article: 331495 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: Subject: Re: FADA 1000 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:38:53 GMT Nice! They clean up good! Keith " Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:bIoSf.39704$915.6725@southeast.rr.com... >I just finished a little clean up on a FADA 1000 Bullet. > What do you guys think? > http://radioheaven.homestead.com/FADA1000.html > > > Ron > > PS, It's for sale. > > > Article: 331496 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: Subject: Re: Antique Radio Auction - Upstate NY Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 01:44:17 GMT "The Majestic 92 Highboy has a MUCH more spectacular cabinet than the picture shows, the finish has dried and lifted and its hiding the burl underneath! I WANT IT! But alas... I wont be there, the the Maj wouldnt have gone inthe back of a Golf anyway~! Keith Article: 331497 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: Silicone rectifier - mistake in book? References: <0to312dl6kkjld8a5jiva1cbcri8jt1p78@4ax.com> Message-ID: <3BJSf.1280$Ef2.384@bignews4.bellsouth.net> Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 20:46:31 -0500 Carter, K8VT wrote: > Tim Mullen wrote: > >> In "Gary >> Tayman" writes: >> >>> This was particularly confusing for me when taking any sort of >>> electronics test, for job interview or whatever. Invariably the test >>> would show a diode, or rectifier bridge, and the next 200 questions >>> would be about which way the current flows in the circuit. You feel >>> silly when you ask the interviewer whether the test is based on >>> electron flow or current flow, and you look even sillier when he >>> doesn't know what you're talking about. >> >> >> Heh. Ask him what he thinks "bipolar", as in "bipolar transistor", >> means. > > > Well, I wasn't going to say anything, but seeing as you brought up > "bipolar"... > > ..."silicon" is the semiconducting element used in the diode. > > "silicone" is...ahem...how shall I say this...used to enhance certain > features of the female anatomy. > > ;-) > > I was waiting for someone to point that out! Article: 331498 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: How to tell where smoke is coming from? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:18:54 -0500 "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:qham129fi6kefbjaoof1snu9evlhfur4jq@4ax.com... > Is there a good trick? I have a Lafayette Model D-42 that smokes > around the base of the 6SQ7 tube. I can see smoke coming from an area > about 1 inch square but not exactly where. > > After I unplug, I stick my finger in and nothing is even warm to the > Is this a wafer socket? It could be arcing between pins, between the bakelite wafers that sandwich the socket pins. Sometimes the sockets develop a carbon track and will arc over and show signs of smoke. Article: 331499 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1142568969.365322.131530@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Eddie B, this one's for you! Message-ID: Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:20:23 -0500 "Steve Reeves" wrote in message news:1142568969.365322.131530@j52g2000cwj.googlegroups.com... > Should the four passive radiators be mounted in an air tight > compartment like modern one are? If not how do they work? Just > Wondering. Sure is a neat Radio wish I had the room and extra funds oh > and I didn't live a couple thousand miles west of it..sigh > Steven Reeves Many of the larger Philcos had back covers. Pete > Article: 331500 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "t.hoehler" References: <1141870658.447760.92580@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <440f9ab5$0$25065$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <63RPf.4872$pV5.2182@tornado.socal.rr.com> Subject: Re: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 03:01:01 GMT "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:KO4Sf.2030$%d.593@tornado.socal.rr.com... > And now, a long, convoluted and disapointing saga of AT&T, Bell > Labs and Western Electric. > > http://www.ablecomm.com/whhetoat.html > > Jeff > Wow, what a sorry story. Sometimes progress is really regress. Rather difficult to follow that cluster****! Tom Article: 331501 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: How to tell where smoke is coming from? Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 23:12:26 -0400 Message-ID: <121mukpn67nn9c1@corp.supernews.com> References: <5drm12hhl5iu2j4r9mtujl90krirk9oigd@4ax.com> Blacksmith wrote: > On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 16:34:53 -0500, Blacksmith > wrote: > > Phil, Ex, and K35454, - I'm making backwards progress. I think I'm > going to need someone reading the same schematic to help out with this > one. Lafayette D-24Riders page 12-5. I guess thats the D-42? That schematic is terribly difficult to read. > > > I suspect there is another wiring mistake somewhere, like why is the > resistor between pins 1 and 8 of the output tube if it's not on the > schematic. Or, more likely, I'm just a dufus that's making it worse > than it was. Pin 8 is apparently connected to chassis ground so anything from anywhere else in the circuit may use it for a tie point to ground. The schematic also shows Pin 1 tied to chassis ground but it wouldn't be unusual to find it used as a tie point for something else in the circuit. The 6K6GT tube doesn't use pin 1 but a metal 6K6 would want pin 1 grounded. Also note the polarity of the electrolytic caps in this diagram. They are drawn "upside down" in that the bottom in the drawing is the postive side. And note that neither negative side connects to chassis ground. When you're saying the "B+ cap" which cap are you referring to? The first power supply filter cap could indeed have its positive side connected to pin 4. -Bill Article: 331502 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: How to tell where smoke is coming from? Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:03:08 -0800 Message-ID: <7234-441B786C-1086@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> References: Blacksmith: This is not meant as a smartass question, but have you verified that all the tubes are in the correct sockets? Assuming they are, a good place to look would be lug #6 of the 6SQ7, which is the plate. A resistor should be connected there, which is the plate load resistor. Try disconnecting it and see if you still get the smoke. Also check this resistor's value; it should be fairly high, something on the order of 100K to 500K (i don't have a schematic handy). If it's drifted signifigantly lower, it may be what's feeding an arc inside the tube socket (which Uncle Peter mentioned). This could possibly be lugging down a B+ feed for the eye tube, causing it to not glow. Since you indicate the smoke appears to be coming from the 6SQ7 socket, there shouldn't be any signifigant voltage except on lug #6, the plate. Bill(oc) Article: 331503 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: How to tell where smoke is coming from? Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 19:10:22 -0800 Message-ID: <7235-441B7A1E-105@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> References: Blacksmith: WOOPs cancel my previous post. Looks like i was on the wrong track. Good luck ! Bill(oc) Article: 331504 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Antique Radio Auction - Upstate NY From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: <9uLSf.84258$g47.57177@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 03:52:37 GMT In article , jon@NOscapturaSPAM.com says... > > >This one? >http://www.bostwickauctions.com/images/march%2018%20photos/3-18%208%20radio%2 02.jpg > >What model is that? > >Jon > not sure... I had a model 1955 and it has same knobs layout and dial... but it didn't have the eye tube... so this one is higher end.. John k9uwa Article: 331505 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: How to tell where smoke is coming from? Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 00:17:37 -0400 Message-ID: <121n2f0c1npbi83@corp.supernews.com> References: <5drm12hhl5iu2j4r9mtujl90krirk9oigd@4ax.com> <121mukpn67nn9c1@corp.supernews.com> <3a0n12h83qfpcbnuq6ijrva5peab37hoeb@4ax.com> Blacksmith wrote: > >>Also note the polarity of the electrolytic caps in this diagram. They >>are drawn "upside down" in that the bottom in the drawing is the postive >>side. And note that neither negative side connects to chassis ground. > > That could be the problem. The 2 caps have their negative leads tied > together and to a wire which through several connections makes it's > way to the center tap on the transformer. Wouldn't that be bass > ackwards then? That would explain then why someone wired the (what I > thought was the positive lead) to pin 8 which is grounded? No, that description to the CT sounds correct. I can't see any justification for connecting any of the caps to pin 8. Its a common mistake though...many "repairmen" just assume negative=chassis=ground and thats not the case here. > >>When you're saying the "B+ cap" which cap are you referring to? The >>first power supply filter cap could indeed have its positive side >>connected to pin 4. (I said that wrong) > > I'm assuming the one on the left is the B+ cap. I took it from pin 8 > and put it on pin 4. It (the + side of the left one/first one) should be on pin 8 of the rectifier tube. Well, maybe not physically but electrically. The right-hand cap (+) would go electrically to pin 4 of the 6K6. When all is connected correctly, and the speaker connected, you should see the speaker field resistance ~1000 ohms between the positive terminals of the two caps. An additional check would be to measure resistance from pin 8 of the rectifier tube to pin 4 of the 6K6. The same field resistance should be there. Then from that same pin 8 to pin 3 of the 6K6 would show the field+af xfmr resistance...somewhere in the ~2000 ohm ball park. If you have those two reading then the B+ wiring (at least to the output tube) is correct. If you still don't have B+ then we'll just keep going until you do! Bill Article: 331506 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:18:26 -0600 Message-ID: <16559-441B8A12-1600@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: I quit my cell phone service about seven or more years go.Have I missed anything? I am fixin to cook up another T Bone Steak.Doggy and I aren't going to miss out on that! cuhulin Article: 331507 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FA: 78rpm LP's-singles-70+ disks-1900-50 era-CHEAP- Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:47:52 -0800 Message-ID: <7j7n12pacigc91v6ib6mmq228m4jof7i9j@4ax.com> References: <1142640057.382977.301760@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> On 17 Mar 2006 16:00:57 -0800, "duty-honor-country" wrote: >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll Please take a moment to click on this ass' auctions, click the "Security Center" link at the bottom of the page, and report him for "Usenet spamming." It is, of course, 66fourdoor...again...still...and his new trick is trying to evade eBay rules by chaging his "user" name on Google Groups. For the record, such eBay spamming has been unwelcomed in this group for at least a year that I know about, and the posts are there for all to see, thus putting 66fourdoor in direct violation of eBay's stated Terms of Service. Help us get rid of this fraudster/spammer...thanks! Article: 331508 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: "Spammer "66 fourdoor" finished. Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:50:15 -0800 Message-ID: <3r7n12lmk52ka1doj3jvvsnj3qe6q2rmu0@4ax.com> References: <1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> On 10 Mar 2006 12:29:14 -0800, "Even Steven" wrote: >Ebay finally took action. ...and he BS'd himself back on by pointing the finger at others for "outing" him. Time to load up eBay with more spam complaints...the more, the merrier. Sooner or later, with eBay under stress from legal prosecution from Tiffany's and others, they'll have to react. Article: 331509 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: "Spammer "66 fourdoor" finished. Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:56:24 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142085841.337915.31740@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1219nqh12b4hee@corp.supernews.com> <1142239361.735282.207510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On Tue, 14 Mar 2006 00:05:30 GMT, "Jon" wrote: > >"Brenda Ann" wrote in message >news:dv4va9$l5o$1@news2.kornet.net... > >> >> I believe that 6KHz is total bandwidth, not audio bandwidth. In other >> words, 3 KHz of audio. Seems I read that this is what Clear Channel was >> doing with their stations. That finally makes them sound worse than a >> telephone, which has a 3300 Hz audio bandpass.. >> >> >> > >No, it's a 6khz low pass audio filter. We basically modified our Optimods >from 10khz down to 6khz. ...thus finally ruining broadcast AM forever for any musical content. Thanks, broadcast corporate jerkoffs! I can even hear the difference in intelligibility in the car, for chrissakes. Just another way for Korporate Amerika to pick your pocket. About Nudo: This clown has his ebay account, 66fourdoor, back up again, probably after BSing eBay's weak security people. Please keep up the Usenet spam violations to eBay security...it worked, only temporarily last time, and hopefully we can get rid of him for good next time. Article: 331510 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: "Spammer "66 fourdoor" finished. Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:00:58 -0800 Message-ID: <4d8n129icobllhhpbl7m775gd8tvb7co7t@4ax.com> References: <1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142646328.329780.318850@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 17 Mar 2006 17:45:28 -0800, "Bret Ludwig" wrote: > First, I think there is a better than small chance IBOC is going to >die, and Ibiquity bankrupted, Yes, yes, yes, oh yes. It will be a >gleeful day, is all I have to say. > > Second, let's face it, eBay is a haven for sharks, scammers, >counterfeiters, charlatans, cleans runners, and cheats. And it's going >to stay that way because eBay knows if they tied people to real >identities Uncle Sugar would get serious about taxing "ebay Nation". >eBay, like Microsoft and dozens of others is built on an appeal to >people's sense of larceny. > > About all you can do is shit on their posts with the facts if they get >too out of line. Nudo got his account shut down once, and half of his Yahoo and Hotmail trash email accounts have been banned from Google Groups, thus stripping him of some anonymnity. Please continue to file "Security Center" complaints on his eBay auctions about "Usenet spamming." The more, the merrier...sooner or later, he'll screw up again and his account will be terminated permanently. This guy's a fraudster. Soon, I will have enough evidence to have his local DA prosecute him, as well as the PA tax folks. He's already under IRS investigation. Article: 331511 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: How to tell where smoke is coming from? Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 02:07:07 -0400 Message-ID: <121n8safg3g5t43@corp.supernews.com> References: <5drm12hhl5iu2j4r9mtujl90krirk9oigd@4ax.com> <121mukpn67nn9c1@corp.supernews.com> <3a0n12h83qfpcbnuq6ijrva5peab37hoeb@4ax.com> <121n2f0c1npbi83@corp.supernews.com> <327n12pi32f2s44ci9ffm3d106m5nu7qnq@4ax.com> Blacksmith wrote: > > Wait, you said, "They (filter caps) are drawn "upside down" in that > the bottom in the drawing is the postive side." If I connect the + to > pin 8, that would be the opposite of what the schematic shows, > wouldn't it? Pin 8 is connected to the top (-) side of the > _right-hand_ cap I hope we are looking at the same schematic and now that you mention it maybe we aren't! Both the D-90 and D-42 are on the same page. I've been considering the info on the left to be the D-90 and on the right to be D-42. Now I see it might be split top and bottom rather than right/left. Same basic circuit but my caps L vs R and "upside down" description would be wrong. Everything else would still apply. -Bill > >>When all is connected correctly, and the speaker connected, you should >>see the speaker field resistance ~1000 ohms between the positive >>terminals of the two caps. An additional check would be to measure >>resistance from pin 8 of the rectifier tube to pin 4 of the 6K6. The >>same field resistance should be there. Then from that same pin 8 to pin >>3 of the 6K6 would show the field+af xfmr resistance...somewhere in the >>~2000 ohm ball park. If you have those two reading then the B+ wiring >>(at least to the output tube) is correct. >> >>If you still don't have B+ then we'll just keep going until you do! >> >>Bill > > > I'll get back to this tomorrow. It's getting late. Thanks for the > help. > > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Article: 331512 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! Date: Fri, 17 Mar 2006 22:20:38 -0800 Message-ID: <5g9n121aa5hdtl6ilv9eqkjrep6bq9gm8q@4ax.com> References: <1141870658.447760.92580@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <440f9ab5$0$25065$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <63RPf.4872$pV5.2182@tornado.socal.rr.com> On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:19:06 GMT, Jeffrey D Angus wrote: >And now, a long, convoluted and disapointing saga of AT&T, Bell >Labs and Western Electric. > >http://www.ablecomm.com/whhetoat.html > >Jeff Having wasted over 20 years of my life with that worthless organization, I can concur with what is in that article. AT&T was spun into the ground by greed, incompetence and undeserved hubris. By the late '80s, it was obvious to all of us that the place, under moron CEO Bob Allen, was augering in, and nothing would stop it. The real shame of it is that in its earlier years, AT&T was a cutting edge technological powerhouse that gave us the first push-pull pentode power amplifier (the 101A, 1940), carrier telephony, digital carrier telephony with PCM (T-carrier, 1959) and many other marvels we take for granted today. One might say the same thing about General Electric, spun into a meaningless marketing concern by Jackass Welch. Article: 331513 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" Subject: AVC voltage swing Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 02:04:21 -0600 I'm still wrasslin' with this Majestic Frontenac (a.k.a. Roger 10-85)... which I'm concluding is a bit of a dawg. One thing I'm curious about; how much AVC voltage swing should I be expecting? It seems only about a couple of volts... should I be expecting about 20 or so? AVC comes off a diode on a 6Q7, and controls several 6K7s and a 6A8. Cheers, Nelson Article: 331514 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: 12 Tube Zenith in NJ Cheap Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 07:40:08 -0500 Message-ID: <121nvti2hj5g56e@corp.supernews.com> 12S568- http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5880083267 John H. Article: 331515 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1142640057.382977.301760@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142690886.092732.187720@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FA: 78rpm LP's-singles-70+ disks-1900-50 era-CHEAP- Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:15:38 -0500 "Terry S" wrote in message news:1142690886.092732.187720@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > Dick head. You are truly an asshole. >From Google, a list of the ng that he spams. Posting from IP:216.222.235.1 http://groups.google.ca/groups?q=winchester1886%40hotmail.com&start=0&scoring=d&hl=fr& Send an abuse@Google, @Hotmail and @eBay and his ISP if you want to get rid of him... Syl Article: 331516 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Carter, K8VT" Subject: Re: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! References: <1141870658.447760.92580@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <440f9ab5$0$25065$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <63RPf.4872$pV5.2182@tornado.socal.rr.com> <5g9n121aa5hdtl6ilv9eqkjrep6bq9gm8q@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 17:57:44 GMT DeserTBoB wrote: > On Thu, 16 Mar 2006 03:19:06 GMT, Jeffrey D Angus > wrote: > >> And now, a long, convoluted and disapointing saga of AT&T, Bell >> Labs and Western Electric. >> >> http://www.ablecomm.com/whhetoat.html >> >> Jeff > > Having wasted over 20 years of my life with that worthless > organization, I can concur with what is in that article. AT&T was > spun into the ground by greed, incompetence and undeserved hubris. By > the late '80s, it was obvious to all of us that the place, under moron > CEO Bob Allen, was augering in, and nothing would stop it. If you want more than the short article cited above, try reading "End of the Line-The Rise and Fall of AT&T" by Leslie Cauley. Goes into interesting detail on the "greed, incompetence and undeserved hubris". > One might say the same thing about General Electric, spun into a > meaningless marketing concern by Jackass Welch. Ah, another member of the Neutron Jack Fan Club, I see... P.S. Where was your 20 years? I was Michigan Bell, but did some time at AT&T headquarters, both at 195 Broadway in Manhattan and "295" in Basking Ridge, New Joisey. Article: 331517 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: FA: 78rpm LP's-singles-70+ disks-1900-50 era-CHEAP- References: <1142640057.382977.301760@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142690886.092732.187720@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1142705318.703423.116340@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:30:41 GMT Skippy wrote: > [ nothing of any importance as usual ] Well, I see you've found yet another way to infest the news group. What happened over on servinet.com? Or are you posting through a library machine that they haven't thrown you out of yet? Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331518 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:34:20 -0600 Message-ID: <2813-441C52AC-1883@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: It used to be Southern Bell here,,, years and years ago.Since the breakup of the "Bells",,, they all went to h.ll,in my opinion. cuhulin Article: 331519 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Somewhat OT: Nixieclock, tube driven, no semiconductors Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:03:49 +0100 Message-ID: References: <480fmiFhe8g6U1@individual.net> > > http://www.jogis-roehrenbude.de/Leserbriefe/Bruegmann-Digital-Roehren- Clock/Digital-Roehrenuhr.htm > > OK, no more joking. I stand in awe. Or, if this were the movie "Wayne's > World," I'd be chanting, "We are not worthy!" > > Phil "two incomplete Nixie projects on the shelves" Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > Phil, here you will find _complete_ nixie (clock) projects: http://www.die-wuestens.de/eindex.htm scroll down to the nixie "pendulum" clock. Georg (always too much projects and no time) Richter Article: 331520 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Verne Folk Subject: Zenith Push Button Knob 5R312 Date: 18 Mar 2006 10:53:36 -0800 Message-ID: Guys & Gals: In the process of redoing this ratio I misplaced, lost, whatever one ivory push button for this unit (5R312)dah! Anyone out there have a spare? I have many other Zenith knobs (no woodies) for trade or will buy outright. Let me know price and shipping to 16002. verne -- http://NewsGuy.com/overview.htm 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Article: 331521 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142707356.650872.122990@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: "Spammer "66 fourdoor" finished. Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:27:48 -0500 "Hand of Doom" wrote in message news:1142707356.650872.122990@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > good post- what good is a radio/phono group without disks and parts for > sale ? > > it seems the guys who don't have the selling skills, and can't sell > anything, complain the most > Another 66fourdoor morph. How pathetic. Article: 331522 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1142207485.036596.54540@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <6L2Rf.262$fy1.46504@news20.bellglobal.com> <1142215307.179654.74740@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Seen these? Quite a collection, not mine (don't I WISH!) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 14:52:47 -0500 "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1142215307.179654.74740@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > I often wonder what would happen if someone found a couple of bulk > packs of "1L6" or "50" tubes. Say 200 tubes of each type. You'd need a > longterm plan to liquidate them over the space of a few years to keep > from saturating the market. > That happened several years ago when the gov. cleared out a few warehouses and dumped a mess of surplus 1L6s on the market. Hardly dented the price! Pete Article: 331523 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: How to tell where smoke is coming from? Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 17:14:15 -0400 Message-ID: <121ou17o3im0p9c@corp.supernews.com> References: <5drm12hhl5iu2j4r9mtujl90krirk9oigd@4ax.com> <121mukpn67nn9c1@corp.supernews.com> <3a0n12h83qfpcbnuq6ijrva5peab37hoeb@4ax.com> <121n2f0c1npbi83@corp.supernews.com> <327n12pi32f2s44ci9ffm3d106m5nu7qnq@4ax.com> <121n8safg3g5t43@corp.supernews.com> Blacksmith wrote: > > That's a tone control on the upper right of the schematic, right? That > big resistor (18K) is the one that blew. Come to think of it, this > time, when the radio smoked, I had thrown the switch back and forth a > couple times so it probably previously wasn't in the circuit, that's > why it didn't blow before. Any idea what wattage that should be? it's > about 2-1/4 inches long. There's a cap on the common terminal of the switch. There is no position where there should be juice passing thru that resistor UNLESS that cap is shorted or there is some other short. If it were shorted to ground somehow it would certainly "get warm" and suck down your B+ voltage since it is connected directly to B+ on one end. > > Am I correct in that the pos. side of the right-most filter cap > connects to pin 8 of the rectifier? Yes. > > When the on/off switch is on and I plug the radio in, the power tranny > makes a sort of rattling "bonk" sound for just a spit second. Does > that provide any clues as to where something might be wrong? Not really. Could be the heavy load its seeing if there's a short. > > Am I correct in that when there is no voltage showing up at the filter > caps, then there is excessive current draw somewhere and that's why > something is getting so hot it smokes? High current, low voltage? It > seems that's the case, but that doesn't square with the formula E=IR. > In that formula, if the current increases from normal, the voltage > must also increase from normal. It could well be that. It would be hard for something beyond the field coil/choke to pull it down to zero, though. -Bill Article: 331524 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:17:02 -0800 Message-ID: References: <2813-441C52AC-1883@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:34:20 -0600, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: >It used to be Southern Bell here,,, years and years ago.Since the >breakup of the "Bells",,, they all went to h.ll,in my opinion. >cuhulin Southern Bell was "normalized" by AT&T back in the late '70s, a process whereby all of the toll equipment, such as long haul coaxial cables, long microwave routes, toll switching and other "big money" functions, got tranferred over to AT&T Long Lines. The same thing happened out west in Pacific Telephone & Telegraph territory...AT&T skimmed the cream, leaving the local exchange work, then all step-by-step and crossbar, to the local operating company. In both cases, the LECs not only survived but did far better than did the "divested" AT&T. Article: 331525 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:18:09 -0800 Message-ID: <27uo12p47aqs2mtgqsd6rtqao86kp1024h@4ax.com> References: <2813-441C52AC-1883@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> <121oruk9951sc95@corp.supernews.com> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 16:38:46 -0400, - exray - wrote: >cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: >> It used to be Southern Bell here,,, years and years ago.Since the >> breakup of the "Bells",,, they all went to h.ll,in my opinion. >> cuhulin >> > >Yeah, I enjoyed the old Southern Bell days when it cost $4/minute to >call from NC to Virginia to say a hurried Hello to grandma on Mother's >Day. That was only if you could get a line, of course. C-carrier only had so many circuits....four per pair. Article: 331526 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: "Spammer "66 fourdoor" finished. Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 13:19:40 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142085841.337915.31740@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1142707726.954006.179210@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 18 Mar 2006 10:48:47 -0800, "Hand of Doom" wrote: >last summer one hillbilly blues disk went for over $10K on Ebay That's him again, to wit: From: "Hand of Doom" Article: 331527 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: How to tell where smoke is coming from? Message-ID: References: <5drm12hhl5iu2j4r9mtujl90krirk9oigd@4ax.com> Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 21:34:11 GMT On Fri, 17 Mar 2006 21:37:25 -0500, Blacksmith wrote: > Pssssssshhhhh, and a lot of >white smoke That sounds more like an electrolytic cap letting go from overheating. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 331528 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: NATIONAL tube portable, 1920's? Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:28:51 -0400 Message-ID: <121p2d0hiq1tf1f@corp.supernews.com> References: <1142719897.490038.27810@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> michaeljpro wrote: > I got an interesting, British tube portable set today. I haven't found > out much about it so I figured someone here might shed some light on it > as far as year of manufacture, scarcity, background on the company > etc...It's not for sale, just looking for more info. Here are the > basics...... It's a National tube portable. Wood case, approx 18 inches > wide, 12 inches high, 8 inches deep. > Controls on top, long wave & shortwave, large leather carry strap, > hinged back door, oval paper-cone speaker. The chassis is one solid > piece of bakelite with the tube sockets made of brass. Five Mullard > balloon tubes, from left to right - PMF 1 HF, PM 2, PMF LF, Cossor V5, > and another PMF 1 HF. I'm guessing mid 1920's? It's a nice piece of > portable radio history. Thanks in advance for all your input and info. > > Michael. > Hi, sounds like a nice find. I don't think it would be mid-20s however. Those tubes are more typical of early-mid 30s battery set. Any photos? I'd like to see it. -Bill Article: 331529 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1142640057.382977.301760@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142690886.092732.187720@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1142705318.703423.116340@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FA: 78rpm LP's-singles-70+ disks-1900-50 era-CHEAP- Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 17:23:24 -0500 "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:llYSf.4872$w86.363@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > Skippy wrote: >> [ nothing of any importance as usual ] > > Well, I see you've found yet another way to infest the news group. > What happened over on servinet.com? Or are you posting through a > library machine that they haven't thrown you out of yet? > > Jeff Dont' tell me that waste of genetic material is still alive ? Thanks for snipping, Jeff, otherwise, skippy would have simply went unnoticed... Syl Article: 331530 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1142640057.382977.301760@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142724482.729942.125190@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 78rpm LP's-singles-70+ disks-1900-50 era-CHEAP- Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:54:06 -0500 "Steven" wrote in message news:1142724482.729942.125190@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... > Ever noticed that Google didn't even carry the post you speak of? > > Did you invent this thread to churn the water, because I DON'T HAVE > USENET and there may be thousands who don't even get this. > > This has turned into a jackass thread. Move along? > Sure has, and you're doing the braying. Article: 331531 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: NATIONAL tube portable, 1920's? Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 20:17:51 -0400 Message-ID: <121p8pgfao02n3b@corp.supernews.com> References: <1142719897.490038.27810@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <121p2d0hiq1tf1f@corp.supernews.com> <1142724729.994658.46290@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1142726576.766916.291330@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> michaeljpro wrote: > I don't have proper access to the binaries so try this.... > > http://antiqueradios.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=temp > > 2 pics under the title, National portable. > Thats a weird bird! The case style suggests there's a speaker in there! Is that an internal loop inside at the front? -Bill Article: 331532 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <441CA31B.915CF5CC@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FA: 78rpm LP's-singles-70+ disks-1900-50 era-CHEAP- References: <1142640057.382977.301760@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142690886.092732.187720@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1142705318.703423.116340@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 00:18:07 GMT Syl wrote: > > "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message > news:llYSf.4872$w86.363@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > > > > Skippy wrote: > >> [ nothing of any importance as usual ] > > > > Well, I see you've found yet another way to infest the news group. > > What happened over on servinet.com? Or are you posting through a > > library machine that they haven't thrown you out of yet? > > > > Jeff > > Dont' tell me that waste of genetic material is still alive ? > > Thanks for snipping, Jeff, otherwise, skippy would have simply went > unnoticed... > > Syl Just when the air freshener was finally starting to work. :( -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331533 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Weird Italian project radio? Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 21:25:20 -0400 Message-ID: <121pcnu4bhailb9@corp.supernews.com> References: <1142730885.570479.313490@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> djep1@juno.com wrote: > links: www.oldradiosrus.com/jpg/weird/weird1.jpg > www.oldradiosrus.com/jpg/weird/weird2.jpg > www.oldradiosrus.com/jpg/weird/weird3.jpg > www.oldradiosrus.com/jpg/weird/weird4.jpg > > My entry into the "weirdest radio of 2006" You win! -Bill Article: 331534 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Patterson PR16 Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:30:39 -0700 Message-ID: I was thumbing through Morgan McMahon's book "A Flick Of The Switch" today and ran across a picture of a 1935 Patterson PR16. It's a 16 tuber that tunes from .55-20MC. I sure like the looks of that receiver. Has anyone ever seen one in real life ?? Does it look as good as it does in the picture ?? I wonder if it's a good receiver ?? If anyone ever runs across one of these...let me know. I wouldn't mind picking up one of these. Ben Article: 331535 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: How to tell where smoke is coming from? Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:49:49 -0700 Message-ID: <21750-441CB8BD-2636@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: How come no one has beat him up with a variac lesson ? You know that smoke would come out slower with a variac :-) Seriously i hope you get it fixed . Article: 331536 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <21750-441CB8BD-2636@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: How to tell where smoke is coming from? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 21:10:27 -0500 "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:ouep12h3kuehq1fedp0d9mkljc3nfbvce0@4ax.com... > > That's an idea. Crank it way up with a variac, then I could easily > tell where the smoke is coming from. > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom And, probably from a LOT MORE places than when you started :) pete Article: 331537 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: NATIONAL tube portable, 1920's? Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:11:27 -0400 Message-ID: <121pfee41m66lef@corp.supernews.com> References: <1142719897.490038.27810@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <121p2d0hiq1tf1f@corp.supernews.com> <1142724729.994658.46290@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1142726576.766916.291330@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <121p8pgfao02n3b@corp.supernews.com> <1142733186.645559.107060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> michaeljpro wrote: > That's the speaker. Oval shaped, paper cone. > I'll have to take your word for it :) It doesn't show well in the photo. -Bill Article: 331538 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Patterson PR16 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 21:11:22 -0500 "Benjamaniac" wrote in message news:dvic80$e7eq$1@news3.infoave.net... > I was thumbing through Morgan McMahon's book "A Flick Of The Switch" > today and ran across a picture of a 1935 Patterson PR16. It's a 16 tuber > that tunes from .55-20MC. I sure like the looks of that receiver. Has anyone > ever seen one in real life ?? Does it look as good as it does in the picture > ?? I wonder if it's a good receiver ?? If anyone ever runs across one of > these...let me know. I wouldn't mind picking up one of these. > Ben I've never seen one, but someone wrote an article for ARC many years ago the Patterson's being under-appreciated and darn good performers. Pete > > Article: 331539 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" Subject: 50A1 -- which TOs used? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 21:12:36 -0500 I'm curious which TOs used the 50A1. I vaguely remember that some chassis's in the H-500 may have used these ballasts. Anyone have a more definitive list? Pete Article: 331540 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Weird Italian project radio? Message-ID: References: <1142730885.570479.313490@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <121pcnu4bhailb9@corp.supernews.com> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 02:58:34 GMT On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 21:25:20 -0400, - exray - wrote: >djep1@juno.com wrote: > >> links: www.oldradiosrus.com/jpg/weird/weird1.jpg >> www.oldradiosrus.com/jpg/weird/weird2.jpg >> www.oldradiosrus.com/jpg/weird/weird3.jpg >> www.oldradiosrus.com/jpg/weird/weird4.jpg >> > >> My entry into the "weirdest radio of 2006" > >You win! > >-Bill Would that be a radial radio? Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 331541 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg) Subject: Re: 50A1 -- which TOs used? Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:08:50 -0800 Message-ID: <21619-441CCB42-464@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net> References: Not sure on the H-500's without looking, but the 600 series and the military version used them. The H-500's I have seen have had the voltage selector switch on the chassis ( not to be confused with the selector on the 110/220 adapter unit) Article: 331542 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Weird Italian project radio? Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 19:02:34 -0800 Message-ID: <2478-441CC9CA-1041@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: <1142730885.570479.313490@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Wow. Weird all right. Clearly the motif is of a 9-cylinder radial aircraft engine, with each 'cylinder' housing one of the radio's major components. Be really cool if it were finished. Bill(oc) Article: 331543 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: 50A1 -- which TOs used? References: Message-ID: <3l6Tf.157127$sa3.148225@pd7tw1no> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 05:53:03 GMT There are very few H500's that have the 50a1 ballast tube, some people say that some left over R520 chassis where used to create this version, but I tend to disagree, as there is no real information to prove this. I am trying to locate an H500 with the ballast, if anyone has one, or even just the chassis, please let me know, I am very interested. Other than that, both military TO's and the entire 600 series used the 50a1. Uncle Peter wrote: > I'm curious which TOs used the 50A1. I vaguely remember that > some chassis's in the H-500 may have used these ballasts. > Anyone have a more definitive list? > > Pete > > -- Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Article: 331544 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FA: 78rpm LP's-singles-70+ disks-1900-50 era-CHEAP- Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:05:16 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1142640057.382977.301760@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 18:19:51 GMT, Shawn K wrote: >Hmmm..... I think he is STARTING to learn something, he has finally put >FA at the beginning of his posts... Now if we could just get him to >remove this group from his posts. Not possible...he's mentally ill and has too few brain cells to digest that sort of information, anyway. The only way to rid this group of his spam and stupidity is to crush him with abuse reports to Google and eBay. You'll note he no longer posts in alt.collecting.8-track-tapes, for fear of having his 66fourdoor eBay account yanked permanently. It worked over there...now get him over here. Article: 331545 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FA: 78rpm LP's-singles-70+ disks-1900-50 era-CHEAP- Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 22:08:48 -0800 Message-ID: <6btp12hevtgo2oujp4kreol1lc4n6f74uv@4ax.com> References: <1142640057.382977.301760@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142724912.484429.42280@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1142725270.599571.72980@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> On 18 Mar 2006 15:41:10 -0800, "Steven" wrote: >I still say there is no spammer back there in this case >----- >I gotta basketball Jones >Ooh OOH OH > >l a t e r *PLONK* Article: 331546 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: saw an old Zenith stand up AM tube radio today Date: Sat, 18 Mar 2006 23:32:51 -0700 Message-ID: <21750-441CFB13-2664@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: <1142736453.085865.276600@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> That is a rare walnut radio . Get us the first number of the model and the next in a few days . great find ! Article: 331547 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Antique Radio Auction - Upstate NY Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 07:07:22 -0500 Message-ID: <121qic4nctt35ac@corp.supernews.com> References: WELL, HOW DID IT GO? Article: 331548 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: How to tell where smoke is coming from? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <5drm12hhl5iu2j4r9mtujl90krirk9oigd@4ax.com> <121mukpn67nn9c1@corp.supernews.com> <3a0n12h83qfpcbnuq6ijrva5peab37hoeb@4ax.com> <121n2f0c1npbi83@corp.supernews.com> <327n12pi32f2s44ci9ffm3d106m5nu7qnq@4ax.com> <121n8safg3g5t43@corp.supernews.com> <121ou17o3im0p9c@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:41:59 GMT In article , blacksmith1@wowway.com says... > > sounds as if someone rewired the radio as the negatives of the 2 filters and the CT of the transformer are NOT supposed to be tied to chassis ground.... as to why the 22 mfd blew up?.. it was probably hooked up backwards polarity.. can't read the schematic parts values shown so not sure what it says for that cap. It does show one from CT of transformer to chassis ground but in the schematic it isn't a litic but a plain capacitor... also the whole thing is going to be hosed up with the CT to chassis ground ... see the two resistors in series to ground >from the CT .. and the wiring with them... think I would put it all back like it is supposed to be... John k9uwa /w4 >I have a dilemma. > >Yet. > >I discovered that the thing that fizzed out and blew smoke at me was >not the resistor but instead a 22 mfd cap. > >This cap runs from the chassis across to the other side to a terminal >with about 6 other wires attached to it that go everywhere. > >I looked on the schematic for a 22 mfd cap that wasn't originally a >2-part cap and found it (C13). It's connected from the center tap >(red/yellow) wire on the power trans. to the chassis and to the neg >end of the filter caps.. > >The 2 filters, as the chassis was originally, are connected together >at the neg ends and they are tied to a chassis lug. The center tap of >the transformer is also tied to the same lug. Nothing else is on the >lug. That means the center tap of the transformer is directly tied to >ground, not through the 22mfd cap as in the schematic. > >I was going to pull the center tap off the lug, pull the neg ends of >the filter caps off too, cut the pos end of the 22 cap off the >terminal strip and instead connect it to the center tap wire. Then it >would be as in the schematic. > >So now I have the neg of filters tied to center tap and 22mfd and that >cap goes to ground. > >My question is ... is this right or is the 22mfd cap going to blow up >because neg is on the chassis, but pos is connected to pos of the >filters? > >(I hope this all makes sense as I'm on Vicodin for a strained back >from 3 months ago and I really have to concentrate on what I'm doing >with this schematic.) >Blacksmith >wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Article: 331549 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" Subject: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:46:00 GMT It was quite a turn out at the radio and ugly furniture auction this weekend. I came home with only 1 item, but keep kicking myself for not bidding on more. There were approximately 260 radio lots up for auction, some containing multiple radios or bidder's choice. Most of the radios were unrestored, but complete and with a good finish with the exception of normal wear) Did anyone else from the newsgroup go? Here's the radio highlights: (Catalog descriptions - I didn't confirm makes or model nos.) (ever 10 lots were radios, the other lots were furniture) 1. Zenith G-503 - $10 2. Crosley 667-C - 40 3. Zenith TO A600 - 35 4. Jewel Clock/radio - 10 5. RCA 65X1 - 20 6. Stewart Warner 51T136 - 10 7. TeleTone 138 - 20 8. US Apex cathedral (model unk) - 125 9. RCA 45X11 - 30 10. Sentinel clock - 10 21. GE E/50 - 40 22. Admiral tombstone - 40 23. Westinghouse H743T4 & H503T5B - 12.50 ea 24. Zenith 7H820 - 35 25. Zenith Y724 - 20 26. Philco 71 - 175 27. Philco 41-230 - 40 28. Box of tubes - 40 29. Zenith H511 - 50 30. Philco 41-280 - 40 41. Pilot T601 - 45 42. RCA T7-5 - 110 43. Silvertone - 20 44. Silvertone - 45 45. Crosley clock/radio - 45 46. Crosley 56-TD-W - 85 47. Siemens 47 - 150 48. Philco 41-220 - 50 49. RCA green plastic - 35 50. General Motors 110-MA - 125 61. Books/catalogs/manuals - 45 62. GE 203 - 35 63. Philco 20 - 130 64. Emerson 504 - 45 65. RCA 303 - 10 66. Blue tubes - 45 67. Emerson series B - 35 68. Silvertone AT 448 - 40 69. Philco 38-12 - 50 70. Philco 37-650 - 60 81. Airline 62-336 - 40 82. FADA 252 - 50 83. RCA 100-A loudspeaker - 30 84. WE&M Testers - 20 85. Philco cathedral - 50 86. Arvin 664A - 50 87. Admiral - 5 88. Westinghouse H-126 - 70 89. Emerson - 30 90. Philco 41-280 - 100 101. Philco PT-87 - 30 102. RCA Victor turn table - 40 104. Box of tubes - 150 105. Hickock Tester 533A - 160 106. tube caddy / tubes - 35 108. tube caddy / tubes - 15 109. tube caddy - 60 110. GE A-67 - 90 121. General Radio precision capacitor - 30 122. box radios/headphones - 90 123. crate of tubes - 30 124. Zenith and Arvin radios - 10 for both 125. Tester & Align-o-pak - 10 126. Tester - 5 127. tubes and books - 45 128. Mercury tester - 75 129. RCA radios (2) - 25 for both 130. Radiola 20 AR-91 - 80 141. Sylvania tube caddy/tubes - 50 142. Zenith - 20 143. RCA - 25 144. Garod 6BU-1 - 50 145. Airline 1611 - 350 146. Emerson transistor - 20 147. Philco 1-221 - 40 148. GE 123 & Emerson 653 - 20 for both 149. Stromberg Carlson 125-H - 55 150. Grunow 1191 - 125 161. Radiomatic Transat & GE 7 - 20 162. Zenith 6X627 - 150 163. Zenith H615 - 110 164. AK Speaker - 45 165. GE E-71 - 130 166. Airline 62-425 - 60 167. box 10 transistor radios - 50 for all 168. Zenith 6-D-2615 - 60 169. Hallicrafters SX-28 - 300 170. RCA SHF-8 - 35 (I bought this one) 181. Airline GRX-1089A - 25 182. NOS Phono needles (2 boxes) - 150 183. Webcor EN24-1 - 10 184. Tubes - 10 185. Phillips - 60 186. 4 Clock Radios - 45 for all 187. 3 Zenith TO's (2 500's and a 600) - 50 each 188. Heathkit GW-42 - 25 189. 2 RCA's - 30 each 190. Philco 48-482 - 40 200. Microphone & 2 radios - 40 for box 201. GE & RCA radio - 45 202. GE FM-41 (intercom) - 20 203. Traveler record player - 20 204. Zenith H503 - 25 205. Crosley Show Box - 30 206. Weston 440 - 35 207. AK 206 - 325 208. tubes - 30 209. meters - 20 210. Grunow 1191 - 125 221. Philco 46-1201 - 15 222. tubes - 70 223. RCA & Billy Korting radios - 35 for both 224. Silverton & Philco radios - 35 for both 225. 2 testers - 30 for both 226. Crosley wooden tabletop - 150 227. Freshman Masterpiece - 100 228. Silvertone & kit radios - 40 for both 229. AK 20 - 60 230. Philco 40-180 - 100 241. 2 turner microphones - 30 for both 242. Zenith G7-25- 30 243. Crosley 56-TN-L - 40 244. Radiola Speaker 100 - 50 245. Zenith 5-S-127 - 250 246. Setchell Carlson 427 - - 25 247. Stromberg Carlson 400-H - 50 248. Philco 48-200 & 53-564 radios - 45 for both 249. Fraser - 25 250. FADA 192A - 100 261. Stewart Warner 900 series - 45 262. RCA - 25 263. 2 Knight testers - 35 264. Midland, RCA and GE radios - 10 for all three 265. Audio generator - 35 266. tester - 5 267. AC Dayton - 45 268. 2 plastic RCA, GE, Aircastle radios - 70 for all 4 269. Zenith portable - 25 270. Philco 42-1010 (with Philco changer) - 25 281. RCA tube caddy/tubes - 70 282. testers - 10 283. Geiger counter/parts - 70 284. wires/cables - 10 285. Philco radio/rp - 25 286. GE portable - 40 287. HeathKit receiver -Tepco mixer - 55 288. Projector - 10 289. Link aircraft radios - 35 290. Zenith 5-S-127 - 175 299. Zenith 6-S-239 - 200 301. Airline 62-976 - 100 302. Supreme 546 o-scope - 30 303. Silvertone 101.839 - 35 304. GLF F770 - 30 305. Crosley 257BP-11 - 70 306. Stromberg Carlson - 40 307. Crosley 10-135 cracked - 30 308. Zenith Universal canvas - 30 309. Radiola speaker UZ1325 - 130 310. Zenith console - 325 321. Zenith 5-S-29 - 350 322. Zenith 8-H-023 - 50 323. Majestic 6-T120 - 50 324. Triplet tester - 30 325. RCA - 25 326. 3 Zenith clock/radios - 25 327. Zenith G725 - 25 328. Philco 70 - 225 329. KLH 21 - 50 330. Grundig M1055W - 40 341. RCA - 30 342. GE L-633 - 80 343. Airline 15CB-1583 - 40 344. WATS Microphone Radio - 150 345. Silvertone 1994 - 200 346. Motorola 56X11 - 35 347. Philco 50-920 - 35 348. Philco Jr 80 - 60 350. Table speaker - 90 361. Tube caddy/tubes - 30 362. FADA 740 (cracked) & GE 201 - 70 for both 363. radio booklets - 10 364. Hickock 600A - 250 365. Firestone car radio - 15 366. Silvertone 7036-A & Radiola 61-5 - 35 for both 367. service manuals - 35 368. Sterling tester - 30 369. Airline 84BR-1053A - 10 370. Philco 37-610 - 70 381. RCA Radiola 17 - 60 382. Philco 60 - 80 383. Emerson & Philco radios - 50 for both 384. Zenith Y-723 - 25 385. Airline 62-185 - 225 386. Silvertone plaster cone speaker - 25 387. Silvertone wire recorder - 30 388. 2 GE radios - 15 each 390. Browning Drake - 100 401. Stewart Warner 01-521 - 75 402. Airline Global - 10 403. Zenith portable - 35 404. Silvertone C101 - 25 405. Minerva - 25 406. AK - 40 407. Zenith 5D-811 & H6-15ZP - 25 for both 408. Brunswick speaker cabinet - 25 409. FADA 265-T - 90 410. Crosley - 72-CA - 25 421. Zenith G615-W - 10 422. Zenith - 30 423. GE 414 & Motorola 56X - 35 for both 424. tubes - 30 425. Air Castle 607-315 - 10 426. GE 321 - 10 427. Precision 910 tube tester - 30 428. TV/Radio books - 45 429. box of radios: zenith x134, zenith, sharp, tru tone - 10 430. Firestone console - 60 441. GE tube caddy - 35 442. Tek 503 o-scope - 40 443. Crosley tombstone - 40 444. Eldorado 1120CW, Philco H834-124, Ross radios - 35 for box 445. radio - needs work - 40 446. Philco 40-130 & GE 4215 - 60 447. 3 Cart machines - 35 448. Philco 60 (rough) - 40 449. APEX cathedral - 100 450. GE L-916 - 60 461. Grundig Majestic with RP - 25 462. Westinghouse cathedral - 95 463. Zenith console - 80 464. Philco 41-250 - 45 465. Philco 18 or 118 console - 60 466. Apex 73R - 90 467. Crosley 8H1? console - 60 468. Westinghouse WR-8 (rough) 40 469. Crosley Super XJ - 50 470. GE H31 - 10 481. Victor Electrola - 120 482. TVNE console - 25 483. Radiola 60 - 40 484. Grunow 1191 - 60 485. Majestic 96 - 150 486. RCA AR812 - 95 487. Zenith 10A1 - 35 488. Speaker Cabinet & empty console - 15 489. GE TV - 60 490. Stromberg Carlson D-2595 - 40 The rest of the radio lots were for boxes of tubes or bidder's choice of basket case radios. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/ and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 331550 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <121qic4nctt35ac@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Antique Radio Auction - Upstate NY Message-ID: <9ycTf.24081$jf2.19894@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:56:37 GMT My report was just posted under the subject "Upstate NY Radio auction follow-up". Sorry for the delay. Jon "Hagstar" wrote in message news:121qic4nctt35ac@corp.supernews.com... > WELL, HOW DID IT GO? > Article: 331551 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: How to tell where smoke is coming from? Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 09:09:57 -0400 Message-ID: <121qm15ou60uf15@corp.supernews.com> References: <5drm12hhl5iu2j4r9mtujl90krirk9oigd@4ax.com> <121mukpn67nn9c1@corp.supernews.com> <3a0n12h83qfpcbnuq6ijrva5peab37hoeb@4ax.com> <121n2f0c1npbi83@corp.supernews.com> <327n12pi32f2s44ci9ffm3d106m5nu7qnq@4ax.com> <121n8safg3g5t43@corp.supernews.com> <121ou17o3im0p9c@corp.supernews.com> John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird wrote: > In article , > blacksmith1@wowway.com says... > >> > > sounds as if someone rewired the radio as the negatives of the 2 filters > and the CT of the transformer are NOT supposed to be tied to chassis > ground.... as to why the 22 mfd blew up?.. it was probably hooked > up backwards polarity.. can't read the schematic parts values shown so > not sure what it says for that cap. It does show one from CT of > transformer to chassis ground but in the schematic it isn't a litic but > a plain capacitor... also the whole thing is going to be hosed up with > the CT to chassis ground ... see the two resistors in series to ground > from the CT .. and the wiring with them... think I would put it all > back like it is supposed to be... > John k9uwa /w4 > What John said. That change won't harm the caps or even necessarily cause smoke but it will screw up the intended biasing scheme so you should put it back as shown while you are sorting things out. When something has been 'modified' in this way you never know what you'll find. -Bill Article: 331552 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephen Wild" References: <1142774441.924347.163830@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Recapping Around Bakelite Blocks Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:32:29 -0500 It's not that difficult to clean out and re - use the baklelite baps. It is sometimes VERY difficult to re - cap around them because the blocks do not only contain caps, but somtimes resistors and they usually are also used used as tie points. You will not only have to work around them but you will have to add a whole bunch of terminal strips as well. Very often a Philco is already cramped and difficult to work in as it is. For information about what is in these blocks go here: http://www.philcorepairbench.com/bblokcap.htm They give a complete rundown of them, My theory of the reason for using these these dratted things was to give genuine Philco service a major advantage over the competion since they would have all this info on hand and would be able to get replacements easily. "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1142774441.924347.163830@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Maybe this question is simple or stupid, but is there a way to recap > around a bakelite > block inside old Philco's? I've seen a photo of one such set and it > doesn't look all that > bad. For those who choose not to pull them apart, this could be the > trick. From what I can see you have to find a schematic on what's > inside the block, trace the terminal strip, and just install your new > cap on top of it ?? Appreciate any help, advice, and feedback. > Article: 331553 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Recapping Around Bakelite Blocks Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 09:37:28 -0400 Message-ID: <121qnkpcvo4te6@corp.supernews.com> References: <1142774441.924347.163830@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> RadioGary wrote: > Maybe this question is simple or stupid, but is there a way to recap > around a bakelite > block inside old Philco's? I've seen a photo of one such set and it > doesn't look all that > bad. For those who choose not to pull them apart, this could be the > trick. From what I can see you have to find a schematic on what's > inside the block, trace the terminal strip, and just install your new > cap on top of it ?? Appreciate any help, advice, and feedback. > Sure, it can be done that way. Seems like more work than restuffing the block but there's always more than one way to do something. Some folks simply use a tool to break away the little wires on the terminals on the block and poke them down inside - hopefully far away enough to where they would no longer make contact - and then mount the new caps on the topside. -Bill Article: 331554 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: 50A1 -- which TOs used? Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:18:12 -0600 Message-ID: <18782-441D6824-431@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <0f6dnYWc4ZBmpYDZRVn-ig@gwi.net> I HAVE SOLID STATE 50A1 IN A GLASS TUBE WITH 9 PIN BASE FOR $18.00. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 331555 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <0f6dnYWc4ZBmpYDZRVn-ig@gwi.net> Subject: Re: 50A1 -- which TOs used? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 09:25:55 -0500 "gkb" wrote in message news:0f6dnYWc4ZBmpYDZRVn-ig@gwi.net... > Speaking of 50A1's. I have a good used Zenith 50A1 for $25.00/shipped,conus, > if any one is interested. > > -- > Hi Gary That's a bit steep for a used 50A1. New ones run $27.00, used $12.00. www.findatube.com Pete