Article: 331556 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: Zenith Push Button Knob 5R312 References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 07:41:03 -0700 Larry Bordonaro has the mold. Too bad your email doesn't work. Bill Jeffrey ===================== Verne Folk wrote: > Guys & Gals: In the process of redoing this ratio I misplaced, lost, whatever > one ivory push button for this unit (5R312)dah! Anyone out there have a spare? I > have many other Zenith knobs (no woodies) for trade or will buy outright. Let me > know price and shipping to 16002. verne > > Article: 331557 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1142778733.919243.111620@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 50A1 -- which TOs used? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 09:51:31 -0500 "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1142778733.919243.111620@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > The entire 600 series, the entire Mil.Spec. series and the latter 500s. > My guess on the 500s is perhaps 0.4-0.8% of total production during the > model-change. That would still be ~1000-2000 radios. > > Also SC, Hallicrafters & RCA models used the 50A1for sure. Others may > have. > > Peter Wieck > Thanks Peter I vaguely remember my dad's old H500 having the 50A1, and was never aware that it was a rarity for that model! Pete Article: 331558 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1142774441.924347.163830@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1142780467.999167.7370@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Recapping Around Bakelite Blocks Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:11:20 -0500 "Brian" wrote in message news:1142780467.999167.7370@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... > Just a couple days ago I encountered my first Bakelite block in a > 40-155. It had a pair of .01s and was wired across the line. I > installed a tie point under the mounting bolt and wired around it, > thinking I didn't want a leaky cap to explode. > > Are these Philco blocks any more long-lived than ordinary paper caps > due to the special processing mentioned in the reference? > > Brian > They are worse, from my experiences. The tar usually didn't completely flow around the capacitor bodies, leaving air gaps between the caps and the shells. If the boats are that much of a bother, I'd suggest removing them and replacing them with terminal strips. Terminal strips really open the chassis space up, compared to the bulky blocks. I've done it on sets that were missing the orignal blocks. But, it really isn't that hard to warm them and remove the innards in a few easy steps. The process has been described here numerous times before. Peter k1zjh Article: 331559 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:13:11 -0500 "Jon" wrote in message news:cocTf.24080$jf2.1902@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > It was quite a turn out at the radio and ugly furniture auction this > weekend. I came home with only 1 item, but keep kicking myself for not > bidding on more. There were approximately 260 radio lots up for auction, > some containing multiple radios or bidder's choice. Most of the radios were > unrestored, but complete and with a good finish with the exception of normal > wear) > Now, it will be fun to see how many of those sets show on eBay in the next few weeks! Pete Article: 331560 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FA: 78rpm LP's-singles-70+ disks-1900-50 era-CHEAP- Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 07:23:04 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1142640057.382977.301760@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142690886.092732.187720@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> On Sat, 18 Mar 2006 12:15:38 -0500, "Syl" wrote: >"Terry S" wrote in message >news:1142690886.092732.187720@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >> Dick head. You are truly an asshole. > >From Google, a list of the ng that he spams. Posting from IP:216.222.235.1 > >http://groups.google.ca/groups?q=winchester1886%40hotmail.com&start=0&scoring=d&hl=fr& > >Send an abuse@Google, @Hotmail and @eBay and his ISP if you want to get rid >of him... > >Syl > Article: 331561 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Antique Radio Auction - Upstate NY Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:29:28 -0500 Message-ID: <121qu6p6qdin245@corp.supernews.com> References: <121qic4nctt35ac@corp.supernews.com> <9ycTf.24081$jf2.19894@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Delay? It was just yesterday :) Thanks! Article: 331562 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FA: 78rpm LP's-singles-70+ disks-1900-50 era-CHEAP- Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 07:44:05 -0800 Message-ID: <1tuq12do94h9q5agbljrdhnb0h2jp05mk3@4ax.com> References: <1142640057.382977.301760@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142749172.938650.300800@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1142775675.368709.201490@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 19 Mar 2006 05:41:15 -0800, "Hand of Doom" wrote: >Steven, > >what he failed to tell you is, his own Ebay account was just >permanently suspended 3 days ago, for auction interference and seller >harassment- which he's been doing for 2 years now on the net- many >infractions. Another Charlie Nudo lie. > >one was buying 8 items for a penny each, just to leave the seller 8 >negatives fb's all at once, on Ebay Well deserved. > >tell him "DYOFDW"- the guy is obsessed and a control freak No, he wants you to tell me that because he's under considerable pressure now. He was being good for about two days after getting his 66fourdoor account suspended and restored, then started in with the illegal spam again. Now, GC Electronics' legal counsel has been apprised of his fraud actions on eBay. Way to go, Noodles. You just dug yourself a big, big hole....and you're going into it. Cute that you had someone else's eBay account suspended...not that it matters a WHIT. What matters is, you're going down...hard...soon. Article: 331563 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FA: 78rpm LP's-singles-70+ disks-1900-50 era-CHEAP- Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 07:45:08 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1142640057.382977.301760@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142749172.938650.300800@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1142776008.978470.224970@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 19 Mar 2006 05:46:49 -0800, "Hand of Doom" wrote: >interesting- the guy is a control freak- notice how he "plonks" one of >your posts, then replies to the next one > >we are talking one sick ticket here More projection from a paranoid delusional thief and fraudster. Don't forget, Noodles...I can plonk your ass anytime I feel like it. You can't do the same to me. Article: 331564 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephen Wild" References: <1142774441.924347.163830@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1142780467.999167.7370@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Recapping Around Bakelite Blocks Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:54:18 -0500 Not to my knowldge. They made it more difficult for third party service, and also gave convenient extra tie point for wiring. That is about all. My experiences with Philco radios is that they are very difficult to work on, and these caps are part of the reason. "Brian" wrote in message news:1142780467.999167.7370@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... > Just a couple days ago I encountered my first Bakelite block in a > 40-155. It had a pair of .01s and was wired across the line. I > installed a tie point under the mounting bolt and wired around it, > thinking I didn't want a leaky cap to explode. > > Are these Philco blocks any more long-lived than ordinary paper caps > due to the special processing mentioned in the reference? > > Brian > Article: 331565 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Another Cheap High End Zenith- Long Island, NY Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 10:55:43 -0500 Message-ID: <121qvo0m2h56pf5@corp.supernews.com> http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Zenith-Tube-Radio_W0QQitemZ6613488412 John H. Article: 331566 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Recapping Around Bakelite Blocks References: <1142774441.924347.163830@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <7wfTf.14031$Tf3.5618@dukeread09> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 11:19:08 -0500 STUPID. I use a knife to cut out the tar, leavs a clean shell. Melting the tar causes lots of cleanup problems. I draw a diagram of what is connected to the terminals, unsolder and remove the block and clean it. Makes for a much neater job. The first thing I think of when I see the blocks removed is 'some clutz has been in here with no knowledge of what they're doing, or are too lazy to do the job right'. Makes me wonder about the rest of the restoration. Since the set is being restored and will be around for another 20-30 years, and probably will be worth more then, why not keep it as original as possible? Ken RadioGary wrote: > Maybe this question is simple or stupid, but is there a way to recap > around a bakelite > block inside old Philco's? I've seen a photo of one such set and it > doesn't look all that > bad. For those who choose not to pull them apart, this could be the > trick. From what I can see you have to find a schematic on what's > inside the block, trace the terminal strip, and just install your new > cap on top of it ?? Appreciate any help, advice, and feedback. > Article: 331567 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1142774441.924347.163830@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7wfTf.14031$Tf3.5618@dukeread09> Subject: Re: Recapping Around Bakelite Blocks Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 11:31:12 -0500 "Ken" wrote in message news:7wfTf.14031$Tf3.5618@dukeread09... > STUPID. I use a knife to cut out the tar, leavs a clean shell. Melting > the tar causes lots of cleanup problems. I draw a diagram of what is > connected to the terminals, unsolder and remove the block and clean it. > Makes for a much neater job. The first thing I think of when I see the > blocks removed is 'some clutz has been in here with no knowledge of what > they're doing, or are too lazy to do the job right'. Makes me wonder > about the rest of the restoration. Since the set is being restored and > will be around for another 20-30 years, and probably will be worth more > then, why not keep it as original as possible? Ken > > That's a lot of labor. I simply gently heat them in place, and push the tar to the chassis using a 1/32" drift punch. The blocks are then unscrewed, and can be twisted at least 90 degrees without the need to unsolder anything. No fuss, no mess, and an easy recap using radial lead NTE caps. The outside of the block can be wiped with alcohol to clean any dirt or residue. Pete Article: 331568 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FA: 78rpm LP's-singles-70+ disks-1900-50 era-CHEAP- Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 08:50:45 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1142640057.382977.301760@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142690886.092732.187720@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1142705318.703423.116340@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1142749719.785365.113350@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1142750416.952869.151070@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1142786056.442940.220500@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 19 Mar 2006 08:34:16 -0800, "Hand of Doom" wrote: >the odd part is, he's from California, yet is obsessed with goings on >in Pa. ? > >that's quite a distance > >he must think Ca. laws and attitudes suddenly rule the entire USA > >little does he know, he's in the minority Fraud is fraud in all 50 states in in the Federal jurisdiction....asshat. And, as you'll soon find out, you're quite guilty of fraud. The spamming complaints are just violations of ToS of various service providers. But the kind of fraud you've been indulging in over the past 18 months may rise to the level of a felony. Enjoy the ride...down. Article: 331569 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: <%4gTf.82334$Fw6.8230@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:58:35 GMT In article , jon@NOscapturaSPAM.com says... > > >-- >Jon Scaptura sure hope the one U bought was the Silvertone TOmbstone with the eyetube in it... looked at your list. Of the silvertones listed... none of them over 40 bucks... that would be a steal on that radio. Lots of other good buys also.. good thing I wasn't there.. or I would have another Van Load of stuff.... bunch of the prices pretty cheap.. John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331570 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Recapping Around Bakelite Blocks From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1142774441.924347.163830@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7wfTf.14031$Tf3.5618@dukeread09> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:50:38 GMT In article <7wfTf.14031$Tf3.5618@dukeread09>, wklwns@cox.net says... > > >STUPID. I use a knife to cut out the tar, leavs a clean shell. Melting >the tar causes lots of cleanup problems. I draw a diagram of what is >connected to the terminals, unsolder and remove the block and clean it. >Makes for a much neater job. The first thing I think of when I see the >blocks removed is 'some clutz has been in here with no knowledge of what >they're doing, or are too lazy to do the job right'. Makes me wonder >about the rest of the restoration. Since the set is being restored and >will be around for another 20-30 years, and probably will be worth more >then, why not keep it as original as possible? Ken > DITTO WHAT KEN SAID ... only I use a screwdriver to dig the stuff out of the old blocks... and like Peter said.... never ...well almost never have to unsolder a thing .... I would bet that Ken, Peter and Myself... any of us could gut one of those things and put in the new parts in LESS TIME than it takes you to figure out how to mount a terminal strip and move the wires etc... IT JUST ISN'T THAT HARD TO DO THEM RIGHT... John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331571 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <%4gTf.82334$Fw6.8230@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Subject: Re: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:10:08 GMT That was the model 1994 that went for $200. Jon "John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird" wrote in message news:%4gTf.82334$Fw6.8230@tornado.tampabay.rr.com... > In article , > jon@NOscapturaSPAM.com > says... >> >> >>-- >>Jon Scaptura > > > sure hope the one U bought was the Silvertone TOmbstone with the eyetube > in it... looked at your list. Of the silvertones listed... none of them > over 40 bucks... that would be a steal on that radio. Lots of other good > buys also.. good thing I wasn't there.. or I would have another Van Load > of stuff.... bunch of the prices pretty cheap.. > John k9uwa /w4 > Article: 331572 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Joe Farkas Subject: Re: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:40:01 -0500 Message-ID: References: On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 12:46:00 GMT, "Jon" wrote: >It was quite a turn out at the radio and ugly furniture auction this >weekend. I came home with only 1 item, but keep kicking myself for not >bidding on more. There were approximately 260 radio lots up for auction, >some containing multiple radios or bidder's choice. Most of the radios were >unrestored, but complete and with a good finish with the exception of normal >wear) > >Did anyone else from the newsgroup go? > >Here's the radio highlights: (Catalog descriptions - I didn't confirm makes >or model nos.) (ever 10 lots were radios, the other lots were furniture) > >1. Zenith G-503 - $10 >2. Crosley 667-C - 40 >3. Zenith TO A600 - 35 etc, etc... I hope that when I go, the wife gets better $ than these... a lot of familiar models. Must have been like a kid in a candy shop. Article: 331573 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: Subject: Re: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:57:01 GMT Joe Farkas wrote in message > > I hope that when I go, the wife gets better $ than these... a lot of > familiar models. Must have been like a kid in a candy shop. > Then don't have them sold at a general auction for the public. Have someone take them to an auction that's part of an antique radio conference. There you'll find hundreds of collectors with pockets full of money looking for radios to buy and other collectors to bid against them. The average might well have been double the sale amount at a radio show auction. Ron www.cc-awa.org Article: 331574 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Chinese radio pictures Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 13:11:24 -0500 Message-ID: <121r7mdthn40o6a@news.supernews.com> References: <1142755065.585622.200980@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> "This listing (#6613881323) has been removed or is no longer available. Please make sure you entered the right item number." Article: 331575 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "radionutz" Subject: OT? my web site Message-ID: <6qhTf.14771$S25.13475@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:29:22 GMT Hi; been quite awhile since I have been here but had some difficulty and this may be a little off topic but it does concern my radio web site. I have some sound bites on a couple of my pages . I use IE as my browser and all is well there but, when I try to use netscape to view my site I can' get the sound. I did it in HTML and use the BGSOUND for IE and the EMBED tag for netscape but it still doesn't work there. If anyone has any suggestions as to what I may be doing wrong you can get back to me off-list at: dmign at earthlink dot net. THANKS, DON -- Check out my web site at: www.home.earthlink.net/~dmign/index.htm Article: 331576 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <6qhTf.14771$S25.13475@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: OT? my web site Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:18:47 -0500 "radionutz" wrote in message news:6qhTf.14771$S25.13475@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Hi; > been quite awhile since I have been here but had some difficulty and this > may be a little off topic but it does concern my radio web site. > I have some sound bites on a couple of my pages . I use IE as my browser > and all is well there but, when I try to use netscape to view my site I > can' get the sound. > I did it in HTML and use the BGSOUND for IE and the EMBED tag for netscape > but it still doesn't work there. > If anyone has any suggestions as to what I may be doing wrong you can get > back to me off-list at: dmign at earthlink dot net. > > THANKS, DON > > -- > Check out my web site at: > > www.home.earthlink.net/~dmign/index.htm Works fine here either using IE and Firefox. Syl Article: 331577 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:03:45 GMT As Ron says this was a little known auction place out in the middle of nowhere. I didn't buy anything but was in the area and wanted to see what the bidding would be like. There were some good deals for a new collector. Most of the tubes looked to be TV type. Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > Joe Farkas wrote in message >> I hope that when I go, the wife gets better $ than these... a lot of >> familiar models. Must have been like a kid in a candy shop. >> > > Then don't have them sold at a general auction for the public. > Have someone take them to an auction that's part of an > antique radio conference. There you'll find hundreds of > collectors with pockets full of money looking for radios to buy > and other collectors to bid against them. > The average might well have been double the sale amount > at a radio show auction. > > Ron > www.cc-awa.org > > > Article: 331578 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:11:13 GMT Hi Jon, wish I could have met you there. I was visiting right over the border in PA so I dropped in. There were some nice deals there. Most radios were in restorable condition as you noted. I didn't buy anything, got too much stuff here now. I wanted to bid on the Hickok 533A but it went for $160, not a bad price but more than I wanted to spend. It was good of you to record all those prices. I left after about an hour and a half but wish I could have stayed. How did those big racks of tubes on the back wall do? They were mostly TV types from what I could see. I took a few pics that I will post on the binaries. Jon wrote: > It was quite a turn out at the radio and ugly furniture auction this > weekend. I came home with only 1 item, but keep kicking myself for not > bidding on more. There were approximately 260 radio lots up for auction, > some containing multiple radios or bidder's choice. Most of the radios were > unrestored, but complete and with a good finish with the exception of normal > wear) > > Did anyone else from the newsgroup go? > > Here's the radio highlights: (Catalog descriptions - I didn't confirm makes > or model nos.) (ever 10 lots were radios, the other lots were furniture) > > 1. Zenith G-503 - $10 > 2. Crosley 667-C - 40 > 3. Zenith TO A600 - 35 > 4. Jewel Clock/radio - 10 > 5. RCA 65X1 - 20 > 6. Stewart Warner 51T136 - 10 > 7. TeleTone 138 - 20 > 8. US Apex cathedral (model unk) - 125 > 9. RCA 45X11 - 30 > 10. Sentinel clock - 10 > 21. GE E/50 - 40 > 22. Admiral tombstone - 40 > 23. Westinghouse H743T4 & H503T5B - 12.50 ea > 24. Zenith 7H820 - 35 > 25. Zenith Y724 - 20 > 26. Philco 71 - 175 > 27. Philco 41-230 - 40 > 28. Box of tubes - 40 > 29. Zenith H511 - 50 > 30. Philco 41-280 - 40 > 41. Pilot T601 - 45 > 42. RCA T7-5 - 110 > 43. Silvertone - 20 > 44. Silvertone - 45 > 45. Crosley clock/radio - 45 > 46. Crosley 56-TD-W - 85 > 47. Siemens 47 - 150 > 48. Philco 41-220 - 50 > 49. RCA green plastic - 35 > 50. General Motors 110-MA - 125 > 61. Books/catalogs/manuals - 45 > 62. GE 203 - 35 > 63. Philco 20 - 130 > 64. Emerson 504 - 45 > 65. RCA 303 - 10 > 66. Blue tubes - 45 > 67. Emerson series B - 35 > 68. Silvertone AT 448 - 40 > 69. Philco 38-12 - 50 > 70. Philco 37-650 - 60 > 81. Airline 62-336 - 40 > 82. FADA 252 - 50 > 83. RCA 100-A loudspeaker - 30 > 84. WE&M Testers - 20 > 85. Philco cathedral - 50 > 86. Arvin 664A - 50 > 87. Admiral - 5 > 88. Westinghouse H-126 - 70 > 89. Emerson - 30 > 90. Philco 41-280 - 100 > 101. Philco PT-87 - 30 > 102. RCA Victor turn table - 40 > 104. Box of tubes - 150 > 105. Hickock Tester 533A - 160 > 106. tube caddy / tubes - 35 > 108. tube caddy / tubes - 15 > 109. tube caddy - 60 > 110. GE A-67 - 90 > 121. General Radio precision capacitor - 30 > 122. box radios/headphones - 90 > 123. crate of tubes - 30 > 124. Zenith and Arvin radios - 10 for both > 125. Tester & Align-o-pak - 10 > 126. Tester - 5 > 127. tubes and books - 45 > 128. Mercury tester - 75 > 129. RCA radios (2) - 25 for both > 130. Radiola 20 AR-91 - 80 > 141. Sylvania tube caddy/tubes - 50 > 142. Zenith - 20 > 143. RCA - 25 > 144. Garod 6BU-1 - 50 > 145. Airline 1611 - 350 > 146. Emerson transistor - 20 > 147. Philco 1-221 - 40 > 148. GE 123 & Emerson 653 - 20 for both > 149. Stromberg Carlson 125-H - 55 > 150. Grunow 1191 - 125 > 161. Radiomatic Transat & GE 7 - 20 > 162. Zenith 6X627 - 150 > 163. Zenith H615 - 110 > 164. AK Speaker - 45 > 165. GE E-71 - 130 > 166. Airline 62-425 - 60 > 167. box 10 transistor radios - 50 for all > 168. Zenith 6-D-2615 - 60 > 169. Hallicrafters SX-28 - 300 > 170. RCA SHF-8 - 35 (I bought this one) > 181. Airline GRX-1089A - 25 > 182. NOS Phono needles (2 boxes) - 150 > 183. Webcor EN24-1 - 10 > 184. Tubes - 10 > 185. Phillips - 60 > 186. 4 Clock Radios - 45 for all > 187. 3 Zenith TO's (2 500's and a 600) - 50 each > 188. Heathkit GW-42 - 25 > 189. 2 RCA's - 30 each > 190. Philco 48-482 - 40 > 200. Microphone & 2 radios - 40 for box > 201. GE & RCA radio - 45 > 202. GE FM-41 (intercom) - 20 > 203. Traveler record player - 20 > 204. Zenith H503 - 25 > 205. Crosley Show Box - 30 > 206. Weston 440 - 35 > 207. AK 206 - 325 > 208. tubes - 30 > 209. meters - 20 > 210. Grunow 1191 - 125 > 221. Philco 46-1201 - 15 > 222. tubes - 70 > 223. RCA & Billy Korting radios - 35 for both > 224. Silverton & Philco radios - 35 for both > 225. 2 testers - 30 for both > 226. Crosley wooden tabletop - 150 > 227. Freshman Masterpiece - 100 > 228. Silvertone & kit radios - 40 for both > 229. AK 20 - 60 > 230. Philco 40-180 - 100 > 241. 2 turner microphones - 30 for both > 242. Zenith G7-25- 30 > 243. Crosley 56-TN-L - 40 > 244. Radiola Speaker 100 - 50 > 245. Zenith 5-S-127 - 250 > 246. Setchell Carlson 427 - - 25 > 247. Stromberg Carlson 400-H - 50 > 248. Philco 48-200 & 53-564 radios - 45 for both > 249. Fraser - 25 > 250. FADA 192A - 100 > 261. Stewart Warner 900 series - 45 > 262. RCA - 25 > 263. 2 Knight testers - 35 > 264. Midland, RCA and GE radios - 10 for all three > 265. Audio generator - 35 > 266. tester - 5 > 267. AC Dayton - 45 > 268. 2 plastic RCA, GE, Aircastle radios - 70 for all 4 > 269. Zenith portable - 25 > 270. Philco 42-1010 (with Philco changer) - 25 > 281. RCA tube caddy/tubes - 70 > 282. testers - 10 > 283. Geiger counter/parts - 70 > 284. wires/cables - 10 > 285. Philco radio/rp - 25 > 286. GE portable - 40 > 287. HeathKit receiver -Tepco mixer - 55 > 288. Projector - 10 > 289. Link aircraft radios - 35 > 290. Zenith 5-S-127 - 175 > 299. Zenith 6-S-239 - 200 > 301. Airline 62-976 - 100 > 302. Supreme 546 o-scope - 30 > 303. Silvertone 101.839 - 35 > 304. GLF F770 - 30 > 305. Crosley 257BP-11 - 70 > 306. Stromberg Carlson - 40 > 307. Crosley 10-135 cracked - 30 > 308. Zenith Universal canvas - 30 > 309. Radiola speaker UZ1325 - 130 > 310. Zenith console - 325 > 321. Zenith 5-S-29 - 350 > 322. Zenith 8-H-023 - 50 > 323. Majestic 6-T120 - 50 > 324. Triplet tester - 30 > 325. RCA - 25 > 326. 3 Zenith clock/radios - 25 > 327. Zenith G725 - 25 > 328. Philco 70 - 225 > 329. KLH 21 - 50 > 330. Grundig M1055W - 40 > 341. RCA - 30 > 342. GE L-633 - 80 > 343. Airline 15CB-1583 - 40 > 344. WATS Microphone Radio - 150 > 345. Silvertone 1994 - 200 > 346. Motorola 56X11 - 35 > 347. Philco 50-920 - 35 > 348. Philco Jr 80 - 60 > 350. Table speaker - 90 > 361. Tube caddy/tubes - 30 > 362. FADA 740 (cracked) & GE 201 - 70 for both > 363. radio booklets - 10 > 364. Hickock 600A - 250 > 365. Firestone car radio - 15 > 366. Silvertone 7036-A & Radiola 61-5 - 35 for both > 367. service manuals - 35 > 368. Sterling tester - 30 > 369. Airline 84BR-1053A - 10 > 370. Philco 37-610 - 70 > 381. RCA Radiola 17 - 60 > 382. Philco 60 - 80 > 383. Emerson & Philco radios - 50 for both > 384. Zenith Y-723 - 25 > 385. Airline 62-185 - 225 > 386. Silvertone plaster cone speaker - 25 > 387. Silvertone wire recorder - 30 > 388. 2 GE radios - 15 each > 390. Browning Drake - 100 > 401. Stewart Warner 01-521 - 75 > 402. Airline Global - 10 > 403. Zenith portable - 35 > 404. Silvertone C101 - 25 > 405. Minerva - 25 > 406. AK - 40 > 407. Zenith 5D-811 & H6-15ZP - 25 for both > 408. Brunswick speaker cabinet - 25 > 409. FADA 265-T - 90 > 410. Crosley - 72-CA - 25 > 421. Zenith G615-W - 10 > 422. Zenith - 30 > 423. GE 414 & Motorola 56X - 35 for both > 424. tubes - 30 > 425. Air Castle 607-315 - 10 > 426. GE 321 - 10 > 427. Precision 910 tube tester - 30 > 428. TV/Radio books - 45 > 429. box of radios: zenith x134, zenith, sharp, tru tone - 10 > 430. Firestone console - 60 > 441. GE tube caddy - 35 > 442. Tek 503 o-scope - 40 > 443. Crosley tombstone - 40 > 444. Eldorado 1120CW, Philco H834-124, Ross radios - 35 for box > 445. radio - needs work - 40 > 446. Philco 40-130 & GE 4215 - 60 > 447. 3 Cart machines - 35 > 448. Philco 60 (rough) - 40 > 449. APEX cathedral - 100 > 450. GE L-916 - 60 > 461. Grundig Majestic with RP - 25 > 462. Westinghouse cathedral - 95 > 463. Zenith console - 80 > 464. Philco 41-250 - 45 > 465. Philco 18 or 118 console - 60 > 466. Apex 73R - 90 > 467. Crosley 8H1? console - 60 > 468. Westinghouse WR-8 (rough) 40 > 469. Crosley Super XJ - 50 > 470. GE H31 - 10 > 481. Victor Electrola - 120 > 482. TVNE console - 25 > 483. Radiola 60 - 40 > 484. Grunow 1191 - 60 > 485. Majestic 96 - 150 > 486. RCA AR812 - 95 > 487. Zenith 10A1 - 35 > 488. Speaker Cabinet & empty console - 15 > 489. GE TV - 60 > 490. Stromberg Carlson D-2595 - 40 > > The rest of the radio lots were for boxes of tubes or bidder's choice of > basket case radios. > > > > Article: 331579 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:20:12 GMT Middle of nowhere is an understatement. I grew up in Owego, so I'm used to being nowhere, and finding the middle of it. I've never been to a big radio meet, so this is as close as it gets for me. I'm kicking myself for not bidding on the Philco 42-1010. The cabinet was better than the one I picked up on the side of the road, and for $25 was a good deal. I'm also kicking myself for stopping bidding on the wire recorder at $25. The guy who bid $30 got it. Isn't Laurie (the auctioneer) a hoot? And who in their right mind would pay so much for those ugly "space" lamps? Jon "Lou deGonzague" wrote in message news:RGjTf.24811$jf2.24316@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > As Ron says this was a little known auction place out in the middle of > nowhere. I didn't buy anything but was in the area and wanted to see what > the bidding would be like. There were some good deals for a new collector. > Most of the tubes looked to be TV type. > > Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: >> Joe Farkas wrote in message >>> I hope that when I go, the wife gets better $ than these... a lot of >>> familiar models. Must have been like a kid in a candy shop. >>> >> >> Then don't have them sold at a general auction for the public. >> Have someone take them to an auction that's part of an >> antique radio conference. There you'll find hundreds of >> collectors with pockets full of money looking for radios to buy >> and other collectors to bid against them. >> The average might well have been double the sale amount >> at a radio show auction. >> >> Ron >> www.cc-awa.org >> >> Article: 331580 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" Subject: RCA Victor SHF-8 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:35:43 GMT What was the voltage rating on the electrolytic caps in the SHF-8 phono amplifier? The one I bought at the auction had some 160 volt replacements in there that are bulging. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/ and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 331581 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 21:54:47 GMT Laurie was great, she made that old ugly furniture fun. Actually some of it was pretty cool. Did she take a break at some point? I was watching that Halli SX-28 and thought it might go higher than the $300 it brought. I was the guy hobbling around with the cane,just had knee surgery. That wire recorder was really neat looking as it also had a turntable. I wish I could have stayed to the end, I should have at least bought 1 item! Jon wrote: > Middle of nowhere is an understatement. I grew up in Owego, so I'm used to > being nowhere, and finding the middle of it. > I've never been to a big radio meet, so this is as close as it gets for me. > I'm kicking myself for not bidding on the Philco 42-1010. The cabinet was > better than the one I picked up on the side of the road, and for $25 was a > good deal. I'm also kicking myself for stopping bidding on the wire recorder > at $25. The guy who bid $30 got it. > > Isn't Laurie (the auctioneer) a hoot? And who in their right mind would pay > so much for those ugly "space" lamps? > > Jon > > > > "Lou deGonzague" wrote in message > news:RGjTf.24811$jf2.24316@twister.nyroc.rr.com... >> As Ron says this was a little known auction place out in the middle of >> nowhere. I didn't buy anything but was in the area and wanted to see what >> the bidding would be like. There were some good deals for a new collector. >> Most of the tubes looked to be TV type. >> >> Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: >>> Joe Farkas wrote in message >>>> I hope that when I go, the wife gets better $ than these... a lot of >>>> familiar models. Must have been like a kid in a candy shop. >>>> >>> Then don't have them sold at a general auction for the public. >>> Have someone take them to an auction that's part of an >>> antique radio conference. There you'll find hundreds of >>> collectors with pockets full of money looking for radios to buy >>> and other collectors to bid against them. >>> The average might well have been double the sale amount >>> at a radio show auction. >>> >>> Ron >>> www.cc-awa.org >>> >>> > From wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com Sun Mar 19 18:03:45 EST 2006 Article: 331582 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Ma Bell is coming back and, boy, is she pissed! From: Wayne Boatwright References: <2813-441C52AC-1883@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: User-Agent: Xnews/2005.10.03 X-Face: '2=UjhX-y3vfeO94nyru(,e&{Lf^eJ&15S#rcuk:e{unjSRN4yZ69Z'ePMJsPO"6\s'iVZ0OZ>_ NNTP-Posting-Host: $$-cwgql-phn2p.newsgate.x-privat.org Date: 19 Mar 2006 23:07:56 +0100 Organization: X-Privat NNTP Server - http://www.x-privat.org Lines: 15 X-Complaints-To: abuse@x-privat.org Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.vt.edu!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed.gamma.ru!Gamma.RU!area.cu.mi.it!x-privat.org!newsgate.x-privat.org!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:331582 On Sat 18 Mar 2006 11:34:20a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it ? > It used to be Southern Bell here,,, years and years ago.Since the > breakup of the "Bells",,, they all went to h.ll,in my opinion. > cuhulin I agree. I was with Ohio Bell from 1976 thru 1992 and its change to Ameritech Services. What a mess! Before the divestiture in 1984, I thought the Bell System benefited greated from Bell Labs, et. al. -- Wayne Boatwright ożo ____________________ BIOYA Article: 331583 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: Upstate NY Radio aucion follow-up Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:12:28 GMT Actually, that particular wire recorder did not have a tonearm, but you could tell that it had the same take up reel and spindle as the model that did. There was a plastic insert where the tonearm would have been. Laurie went all the way to the very end this year. When I left around 7:30, she was doing the carts. Jon "Lou deGonzague" wrote in message news:HqkTf.11073$Da7.4005@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Laurie was great, she made that old ugly furniture fun. Actually some of > it was pretty cool. Did she take a break at some point? I was watching > that Halli SX-28 and thought it might go higher than the $300 it brought. > I was the guy hobbling around with the cane,just had knee surgery. That > wire recorder was really neat looking as it also had a turntable. I wish I > could have stayed to the end, I should have at least bought 1 item! > > Jon wrote: >> Middle of nowhere is an understatement. I grew up in Owego, so I'm used >> to being nowhere, and finding the middle of it. >> I've never been to a big radio meet, so this is as close as it gets for >> me. I'm kicking myself for not bidding on the Philco 42-1010. The cabinet >> was better than the one I picked up on the side of the road, and for $25 >> was a good deal. I'm also kicking myself for stopping bidding on the wire >> recorder at $25. The guy who bid $30 got it. >> >> Isn't Laurie (the auctioneer) a hoot? And who in their right mind would >> pay so much for those ugly "space" lamps? >> >> Jon >> >> >> >> "Lou deGonzague" wrote in message >> news:RGjTf.24811$jf2.24316@twister.nyroc.rr.com... >>> As Ron says this was a little known auction place out in the middle of >>> nowhere. I didn't buy anything but was in the area and wanted to see >>> what the bidding would be like. There were some good deals for a new >>> collector. Most of the tubes looked to be TV type. >>> >>> Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: >>>> Joe Farkas wrote in message >>>>> I hope that when I go, the wife gets better $ than these... a lot of >>>>> familiar models. Must have been like a kid in a candy shop. >>>>> >>>> Then don't have them sold at a general auction for the public. >>>> Have someone take them to an auction that's part of an >>>> antique radio conference. There you'll find hundreds of >>>> collectors with pockets full of money looking for radios to buy >>>> and other collectors to bid against them. >>>> The average might well have been double the sale amount >>>> at a radio show auction. >>>> >>>> Ron >>>> www.cc-awa.org >>>> >>>> >> Article: 331584 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1142805276.694544.270580@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: RCA Victor SHF-8 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:17:43 GMT It's transformerless, with a selenium rectifier. Looks like there's been some heat in there though, as there's lots of waxy buildup on the wires where the original cap would have been. The resistors also show some signs of overheating, so I'm going to go through the rest of the caps to see what's drawing the extra current and causing the resistors to get hot. It's been recapped at least twice, as there are dusty orange drops, replacement paper, and rather clean (but bulging) electrolyics in there. Jon "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1142805276.694544.270580@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > If it's an AC/DC set (without voltage doubler), then 160vdc is fine. > Bulging cap could be installed backwards (ouch) or just deteriorated > with age/heat. AC transformer and AC/DC voltage doubler sets will vary > depending on B+, but as cheap as 450v units are, I'd use 450v caps. > Unless you have a very high B+. > Article: 331585 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Patterson PR16 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:39:24 -0500 Patterson was also well known for their shortwave sets. Pete Article: 331586 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <121nvti2hj5g56e@corp.supernews.com> <1142742011.300727.303470@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 12 Tube Zenith in NJ Cheap Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:30:20 GMT Bit too new for me, although Id still grab it if I could find time to get to NJ and pick it up. Oooohh is that Photofinish :-0 Keith "Steven" wrote in message news:1142742011.300727.303470@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > > Hagstar wrote: >> 12S568- >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5880083267 >> >> John H. > > Keith or Sal: > > That is wonderful! My jaw almost fell off when I saw the insides too,,, > > Not a seller, it's a keeper. > From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Mon Mar 20 07:04:32 EST 2006 Article: 331587 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Chassis needed Lines: 8 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:48:47 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.9.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1142812127 67.53.9.190 (Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:48:47 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:48:47 CST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!news-east.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:331587 I'm looking for a 1920 Philco 87 chassis. Jim Ron Ramirez has on pictured at his web site, a 1929 Philco 87 Lowboy, Article: 331588 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1142370523.946952.130090@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1142467539.218284.101790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1142728806.533905.254880@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wire recorder project - success! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:53:14 -0500 > Thanks to Gary for the 50Hz/60Hz suggestion - you may well be right. > I'll need to look and see what kind of motor it is. The spools seemed > to have been recorded at various speeds so maybe the mains voltage > fluctuated more in those days. Hmm.. my Grandfather was the district > engineer for the Electricity Board for London so he would not approve > of my theory :-) > Nick > Nick is it possible, since it was a homebrew rig, that the wire was moved by the takeup spool rather than a constant speed constant drive? Using the spool would cause the wire to travel at a faster speed as the take up spool filled?? Just a thought. Very interesting thread, thanks for posting. Pete Article: 331589 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: saw an old Zenith stand up AM tube radio today Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 15:53:23 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1142736453.085865.276600@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <21750-441CFB13-2664@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> <1142807403.105021.31570@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> On 19 Mar 2006 14:30:03 -0800, "Hand of Doom" wrote: >OK folks here goes- went back and looked at the unit again today > >I did not find any ID plate anywhere, but on the actual chassis itself >for the tubes, was this number A278666 > >on the speaker, it said Zenith, and had this number on the magnet >49H416 > >there was a large vertical box that rotated inside, that the owner said >was an adjustable antenna- that said "ZENITH ROTORWAVE MAGNET" > >the front tuning panel was round, also said ZENITH, and had the >following bands marked: > >POLICE >STANDARD BROADCAST >SHORT WAVE > >there were some very large tubes in this unit as well, that were all >marked ZENITH right on the tubes- i.e. it has a full complement of >original tubes > >what's it worth ? Nothing to you, asshat. Give it away to someone who'd appreciate it and have the electronic skills to make it work as designed. You, with your "tuner spray" and "QEC" cleaning, would destroy this Zenith in nothing flat...just like you destroy everything else you touch. Article: 331590 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: 50A1 -- which TOs used? References: <0f6dnYWc4ZBmpYDZRVn-ig@gwi.net> <18782-441D6824-431@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:10:57 -0500 Bill Turner wrote: > I HAVE SOLID STATE 50A1 IN A GLASS TUBE WITH 9 PIN BASE FOR $18.00. > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. > > > > Haven't seen any posts from you in a while Bill. Welcome back, hope you are well. From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Mon Mar 20 07:04:32 EST 2006 Article: 331591 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: Subject: Re: Chassis needed Lines: 3 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:15:36 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.9.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1142813736 67.53.9.190 (Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:15:36 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:15:36 CST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news-feed01.roc.ny.frontiernet.net!nntp.frontiernet.net!newscon06.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!news-east.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-server.columbus.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:331591 1929... sorry typo Article: 331592 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" Subject: what the heck is eames.... Message-ID: Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:18:53 -0700 Ebay listing for "art deco" almost always has eames attached also... I am guessing that this was a famous designer of the same time frame and or style???? Can anyone tell me the real meaning... Bob in phx. Article: 331593 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:52:31 -0800 Message-ID: References: On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:18:53 -0700, "Bob in Phx" wrote: >Ebay listing for "art deco" almost always has eames attached also... I am >guessing that this was a famous designer of the same time frame and or >style???? > >Can anyone tell me the real meaning... First of all, eBay is a collection of morons and/or fraudsters trying to vacuum dollars from other clueless peoples' wallets. Disregard anything you may see there. Second, the designer quoted has nothing whatever to do with the late 1920's "art deco" movement as popularized in first in France and coming to fruition in the US. Charles Eames was a US furniture designer of the modern school, who in the 1940s, designed what became the ubiquitous molded plywood (and ungodly uncomfortable) chair. Some of his later works included the "spaceball" 8 track/AM/FM radio set sold under the "Welltron" name in the US, and under other names elsewhere, done up in sort of a "2001: A Space Oddity" styling...quite a hit back circa 1967. Eames had nothing whatsoever to do with "art deco." One may also successfully argue that many (if not most) of his and his wife's furnishing designs focused more on style over substance, some of the furniture being racily modern, but horridly uncomfortable. Recently, some cracker down in Ally-bammy had a circa 1949 Philco Transitone for sale on sleazeBay. The "style?" "Art decko," what else? dB Article: 331594 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Message-ID: <93nTf.1718$Vx4.683@trnddc06> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:54:29 GMT http://www.loc.gov/exhibits/eames/ -- Mike Schultz "Bob in Phx" wrote in message news:qwmTf.6016$422.1394@fed1read10... > Ebay listing for "art deco" almost always has eames attached also... I am > guessing that this was a famous designer of the same time frame and or > style???? > > Can anyone tell me the real meaning... > > Bob in phx. > Article: 331595 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: anyone need an Ungar 9010 soldering iron tip? Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 17:25:54 -0800 Message-ID: cleaning out stuff I don't need - for example, this 9010 soldering iron tip - here's a link to see what it is and what it costs https://www.micro-tools.com/store/item_detail.aspx?ItemCode=UNG-9010 this tip is new and in factory packaging - since they cost $15 when you need one, I figure $7.50 is fair, including postage - that way I get this to someone who can use it and that someone pays half price - if interested, contact me off the list by unmangling my e-mail address below (don't reply to this, it' won't work) - or locate my email on my web page, www.wbnoble.com Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 331596 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Chassis needed Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:10:41 -0700 Message-ID: <25568-441E0F21-2778@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: I would search for a model 96 chassis . The 87 is a bit of a junker . See my reply on ABPR Article: 331597 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <6qhTf.14771$S25.13475@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: OT? my web site Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 02:41:33 GMT Hi! > When I went to Mozilla help...it said that if Windows Medai Player is > installed...it should automatically detect and use it. This requires a newer version of Windows Media Player. I know 6.4 does not work. I've heard 8 and 9 do, but I don't care for the newer versions, so I don't use them. Not to start a debate of any sort, but consider letting users choose to hear the sounds if they want by clicking on links to them. I really don't care for web sites that automatically start playing music, sounds or other noises...more often than not I've got the speakers set for something else, or I'm listening to music. As a result, the sound is startlingly loud or unwelcome background noise. William Article: 331598 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:15:14 -0800 Message-ID: References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 18:27:33 -0800, "graham" wrote: >... you sir, have ...plonked you into oblivion. Article: 331599 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 19:51:23 -0800 Message-ID: References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> <1142825474.580373.254730@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> On 19 Mar 2006 19:31:14 -0800, "Terry S" wrote: >They are not the same, but like that famous Star Trek episode, they >seem destined to spend eternity at each others' throats.... I'll quit when that fraudster Nudo satisfies two or more of the following criteria: 1.) Is booted off of eBay permanently 2.) Has his 'Net access yanked 3.) Is prosecuted successfully for copyright theft and/or mail and wire fraud in a Federal court 4.) Dies due to sticking fingers into a beefy B+ supply, thinking it's "safe" (judged a high probability) 5.) Has one of his junk cars he uses for eBay swindles fall upon him due to illegal/improper floor jacks. 6.) Blows up due to spontaneous combustion due to internal hot air retention 7.) Is documented as standing in the middle of a busy intersection on Xmas Eve in downtown Scranton, naked but for a Santa hat, ringing a bell, wearing a sign that says, "Run over me...please!" ....THEN, I'll leave him alone....but only then. I'm not going to bother you folks in here anymore. He's YOUR problem now. Have fun! Article: 331600 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: FA: tape recorder motor - anyone care to confirm exactly what it fits? Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 22:00:59 -0800 Message-ID: <46hs125jdthidefo8ohjvc0i8klohkbu36@4ax.com> This motor is dated 5 1956. My guess is that it's from a Wollensack machine - if anyone knows for sure, please let me know - I'm selling this (and other stuff) for a friend who ran out of storage space - I'd just as soon get top $ for him by having my listings accurate. here's the link http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9701240972 Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 331601 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Chinese radio pictures Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2006 23:29:10 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1142755065.585622.200980@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <121r7mdthn40o6a@news.supernews.com> <1142816626.630303.226780@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Steve Reeves wrote: > Buck Frobisher Wrote > This listing (#6613881323) has been removed or is no longer available. > Please make sure you entered the right item number." > > > > The Listing was there earlier. About 164 pictures I saved them to my > harddrive. some were interesting some were not. All had to be rotated. > It was a "pick a magazine you want from 164 choices auction". I'm not > sure you can run an epay auction the way thay one was. I think you can > offer/sale one Item that comes in different colors. don't think you can > offer different magazines with a choose one option however. Cuts into > epays earnings from listing fees? > It's called a choice auction, and yes, it is forbidden on eBay per their policies. That's probably why it was pulled. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 331602 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" Subject: Unusual radio? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 04:25:48 -0330 My very good neighbour has asked me to fix a small Sentinel AM clock radio of 1940s vintage? Made in USA. Dark red/purple dial is marked, in gold characters, unusually both in metres (550 to 200) and kilocycles (550 to 1600). It's a 115v transformerless with tube line-up 35Z5-GT, 50L6-GT, 12SQ7-GT, 12SK7-M and unmarked -M Freq Changer (probably a 12K8?). As expected it has the two gang tuning cap. and two square IF cans, each as big as an octal tube! The radio is switched on via an AC clock mounted in one section of the somewhat battered wood cabinet which has (or partially had) a semi bamboo patterned paper finish. Manufacturing numbers in black print on edge of chassis are 71 9520 and 120150BV. In addition to the paper stuck inside the case which provides the , model Number 194UTCL, but no maker, the number 194U is impressed into the rear metal edge of the chassis. It has a very unusual metal plate antenna, about 5 by nine inches, that also comprises the rear cover. Attached by screws to the wooden case it is thereby not in contact with the metal chassis. A single wire leads from a Fahenstock clip on this plate to what looks like the RF input of the FC (first detector) tube. It has a bad AC cord, with the old type non polarized two pin plug. Someone has stuck what looks like pencil through the speaker cone several times, the speaker and output transformer having been previously replaced by dint of soldering two edges of the 'new' speaker and the mounting lugs of the replacement OP transformer to the metal chassis (pretty massive soldering iron needed for that!), the dial cord has disappeared along with any springs and tags for tensioning it. And two knobs are missing. Nevertheless we got sound out of it immediately without replacing anything. Is this set unusual enough to demand special attention? Or is just one of the many five tube AC/DC radios of that era with an AC clock to act as an alarm. I guess it will get fairly warm when back in its case, the tube heaters alone consuming some 17 watts and B+ probably another 5 or 8 watts? Comments welcomed please. Terry M Article: 331603 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bartley Subject: Re: Chassis needed References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:59:10 -0500 James Hilins wrote: > I'm looking for a 1920 Philco 87 chassis. > > Jim Do you need complete or for parts? -- regards from :: John Bartley 43 Norway Spruce Street Stittsville, Ontario Canada, K2S1P5 ( If you slow down it takes longer - does that apply to life also?) Article: 331604 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim Barnard" Subject: Zenith Transistor Radio History Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:24:45 -0500 Message-ID: I have been looking for some time to find information about the Zenith people who designed the first Royal 500 transistor radio as well as the later Royal 500H. While the hardware is documented many times over, I can find nothing about the grand folks behind these wonderful radios. I would like to add some names and faces to my Website. Any suggestions are appreciated. Jim Barnard www.transistor-repairs.com Article: 331605 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Chassis needed References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 13:32:59 GMT I think I have a 96 out in the garage. Let me know if interested. James Hilins wrote: > I'm looking for a 1920 Philco 87 chassis. > > Jim > > > Ron Ramirez has on pictured at his web site, a 1929 Philco 87 Lowboy, > > From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Thu Mar 23 01:35:03 EST 2006 Article: 331606 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: Subject: Re: Chassis needed Lines: 5 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response Message-ID: <7CyTf.17727$iR1.10492@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:02:43 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.9.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1142863363 67.53.9.190 (Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:02:43 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:02:43 CST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wns14feed!worldnet.att.net!24.30.200.11!news-east.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:331606 I need a complete, the original was parted out and junked! Jim From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Thu Mar 23 01:35:03 EST 2006 Article: 331607 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: Subject: Re: Chassis needed Lines: 7 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response Message-ID: <1DyTf.17728$iR1.1778@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:03:41 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.9.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1142863421 67.53.9.190 (Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:03:41 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 08:03:41 CST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!news-west.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:331607 I am interested if it is restorable. What do you want for it? Jim Article: 331608 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" Subject: Great expectations Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:54:27 GMT I never cease to be amazed by the public. Some don't think old radios are worth 2 second's thought and others are sure anything older than last season is a valuable artifact museums would love to get their hands on. Witness this: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6614121785& Ray Article: 331609 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Ah Sweet Memories Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 07:47:19 -0700 Message-ID: <25085-441EC077-2917@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> References: When i was a kid i bought one of those used . It had a wood stag case instead of plastic . I ended up trading it to my dad for his truetone pocket radio ... yes memorys . Article: 331610 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1142805276.694544.270580@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1142826943.082078.225310@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: RCA Victor SHF-8 Message-ID: <6QATf.25135$jf2.11543@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:34:10 GMT I was planning on getting rid of that rectifier eventually. It's not what's getting hot though. After recapping the amp, I'm finding that it takes about 30 seconds of warm up to get audio, and the audio sounds clean with no hum. I did find that in one case there was a 0.1uF where a 0.05 should have been, making the output unbalanced. I also am finding that I'm getting a "ringing" that turns into a 600hz "howl" after the unit has been on for about 10 minutes. That's when I can smell a resistor getting hot. I've kept leads to a minimum and run any wires along the chassis to try to minimize anything, but perhaps I just have a microphonic tube. I'm going to swap out the 100uF electrolytic with an 80uF as per the original schematic, and replace the other two large electrolytics with ones closer to the original values. Jon "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1142826943.082078.225310@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > I'd get rid of the selenium rectifier right away. Replace it with a > 1N4007 and a 5 or 10 watt 33 ohm resistor. Depending on the > environment, the heat could be those hot tubes on top or long usage in > high temperature (like near a hot coal stove). If there is a voltage > dropping power resistor like the tube T/O have, use a single 160 ohm > resistor. > Article: 331611 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Great expectations From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:42:02 GMT In article , rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com says... > > >Witness this: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6614121785& > >Ray > > > looks like TWO extra Zeros on the end of that start price John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331612 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bartley Subject: Re: Chassis needed References: <7CyTf.17727$iR1.10492@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:55:48 -0500 James Hilins wrote: > I need a complete, the original was parted out and junked! > > Jim > > Okey-doke, I have some parts, but not a restorable chassis. cheers -- regards from :: John Bartley 43 Norway Spruce Street Stittsville, Ontario Canada, K2S1P5 ( If you slow down it takes longer - does that apply to life also?) Article: 331613 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1142873852.741521.13770@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Transistor Radio History Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 17:38:56 GMT "Terry S" wrote in message news:1142873852.741521.13770@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > Looks like Dwight Poppy retired from the University of Wisconsin, > Oshkosh, in 2004, after 22 years of service. > > I love Dogpile! > > Terry. > Looks like he now lives right across Lake Winnebago from Oshkosh. http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&q=920-439-1279&btnG=Search jim menning Article: 331614 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" Subject: RCA Tape Cartridge - what models? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:29:33 GMT There's a video in the Prelinger Archive (http://www.archive.org/details/Revoluti1958) that shows RCA's tape cartridge that they introduced in 9158. What models had this tape recorder? Are they hard to find? Were many titles released in this format before it went by the wayside? I'm interested in trying to add one to my collection, but would like to be able to use it, not just look at it. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/ and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 331615 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: RCA Tape Cartridge - what models? Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:13:39 -0800 Message-ID: References: On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:29:33 GMT, "Jon" wrote: >There's a video in the Prelinger Archive >(http://www.archive.org/details/Revoluti1958) that shows RCA's tape >cartridge that they introduced in 9158. What models had this tape recorder? I have no clue...they're extremely rare, as the format tanked as soon as car audio showed up with the Muntz/Fidelipac 4 track players. Audiophiles of the era just scoffed at RCA's cartridges, and stuck with RTR. >Are they hard to find? Very. >Were many titles released in this format before it >went by the wayside? Fiedler and the like, not much else. > I'm interested in trying to add one to my collection, >but would like to be able to use it, not just look at it. Lotsa luck. Article: 331616 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: Subject: Re: RCA Tape Cartridge - what models? Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:17:03 -0500 Message-ID: <441f0dbc$0$7326$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> You can find them if you look hard enough. I once had the opportunity to get a machine with about 50 cartridges at one time. Bill "Jon" wrote in message news:hwCTf.25147$jf2.10924@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > There's a video in the Prelinger Archive > (http://www.archive.org/details/Revoluti1958) that shows RCA's tape > cartridge that they introduced in 9158. What models had this tape > recorder? Are they hard to find? Were many titles released in this format > before it went by the wayside? I'm interested in trying to add one to my > collection, but would like to be able to use it, not just look at it. > > > -- > Jon Scaptura > Endicott, NY > > See my antique radios here: > http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/ > and the workbench webcam: > http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam > > > Article: 331617 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1142873852.741521.13770@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1142878802.624782.4500@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Transistor Radio History Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:16:22 GMT "Terry S" wrote in message news:1142878802.624782.4500@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Jim manages to one-up me once again :-) > I first used my local phone book to look up his number, and then Googled the number. He lives just down the road from one of my favorite golf courses. > > I'll have to get busy and see if I can dig up Dwight's medical > records... > > Terry. > You could try to access the Homeland Security files for that. I'm sure they have all current and former college instructors on file. jim menning From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Thu Mar 23 01:35:04 EST 2006 Article: 331618 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: <25568-441E0F21-2778@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Chassis needed Lines: 14 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:44:06 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.9.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1142891046 67.53.9.190 (Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:44:06 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:44:06 CST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn11feed!worldnet.att.net!24.30.200.11!news-east.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:331618 Jim, Thanks for replying so quickly. But I'm somewhat confused about the chassis. Mr. Philco (Ron Ramirez) at http://www.philcoradio.com/ says the model 87 chassis has 8 tubes, and that "The 87 is a surprisingly good performer, despite its relatively primitive design. It is a very sensitive radio". The model 96 chassis, which is also shown on Ron's web site, goes in the "highboy" cabinet, and has a different knob configuration than the one on my 87 lowboy cabinet. Check out the Mr. Philco web site and see what you think. Austin Article: 331619 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ken Knapp" Subject: Re: Great expectations Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 16:54:56 -0500 Message-ID: <121u98ma1h9uda3@corp.supernews.com> References: Damn, I'm a big spender. I offered $5.99. Don't particularly want it, it's more a statement on how whacked his buy it now is. Ken "Rick Yerke" wrote in message news:EqydnaM3Lrnrj4LZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@adelphia.com... >I made a best offer of $2 for the Nestle Crunch radio.Rick > > > In article , > k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) wrote: >>In article , >>rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com says... >>> >>> >>>Witness this: >>> >>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6614121785& >>> >>>Ray >>> >>> >>> >>looks like TWO extra Zeros on the end of that start price >>John k9uwa /w4 >> Article: 331620 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: RCA Tape Cartridge - what models? Message-ID: <86GTf.8718$gD4.4559@trnddc05> Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:34:44 GMT Back in the late 60's, I was given one of those machines. The guy who gave it to me wished me luck, and hinted that I would never get it to work properly. I thought he was joking. After about 6 months of trying, I threw it in the trash. They are junk. -- Mike Schultz "Jon" wrote in message news:hwCTf.25147$jf2.10924@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > There's a video in the Prelinger Archive > (http://www.archive.org/details/Revoluti1958) that shows RCA's tape > cartridge that they introduced in 9158. What models had this tape > recorder? Are they hard to find? Were many titles released in this format > before it went by the wayside? I'm interested in trying to add one to my > collection, but would like to be able to use it, not just look at it. > > > -- > Jon Scaptura > Endicott, NY > > See my antique radios here: > http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/ > and the workbench webcam: > http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam > > > Article: 331621 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: RCA Tape Cartridge - what models? Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 15:40:39 -0800 Message-ID: References: <86GTf.8718$gD4.4559@trnddc05> On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 22:34:44 GMT, "Mike Schultz" wrote: >Back in the late 60's, I was given one of those machines. The guy who gave >it to me wished me luck, and hinted that I would never get it to work >properly. I thought he was joking. After about 6 months of trying, I threw >it in the trash. > >They are junk. Not having ever worked on one, I had only heard of these by reputation, and it was exactly the same as this. The RCA system was poorly engineered garbage. Even the 2 track monaural Orr car tape machine was better, and that wasn't all too good, either! Some prerecorded Orr cartrdiges showed up on sleazeBay recently, and got no bidders. An Orr machine did sell, however. Once Early Muntz launched 4 track in the now-familiar size for car, the RCA and Orr systems were both doomed and are not quite rare to find in any condition. Article: 331622 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <86GTf.8718$gD4.4559@trnddc05> Subject: Re: RCA Tape Cartridge - what models? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 23:54:54 GMT "DeserTBoB" wrote in message news:a6fu12hd812lr124npn2qmanb8tp0hdurs@4ax.com... > Not having ever worked on one, I had only heard of these by > reputation, and it was exactly the same as this. The RCA system was > poorly engineered garbage. Even the 2 track monaural Orr car tape > machine was better, and that wasn't all too good, either! Some > prerecorded Orr cartrdiges showed up on sleazeBay recently, and got no > bidders. An Orr machine did sell, however. Once Early Muntz launched > 4 track in the now-familiar size for car, the RCA and Orr systems were > both doomed and are not quite rare to find in any condition. Most of the replies I've gotten here and in email tell me that they are junk, but so far, I haven't figured out what model numbers they were included in. Anyone know? Jon From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Thu Mar 23 01:35:05 EST 2006 Article: 331623 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Riders Manuals for swap Lines: 6 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:03:49 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.9.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1142899429 67.53.9.190 (Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:03:49 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:03:49 CST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wns13feed!worldnet.att.net!24.30.200.11!news-east.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:331623 I have a complete set of riders TV manuals I'd swap for a complete set of radio manuals. Jim Article: 331624 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: "Spammer "66 fourdoor" finished. Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:03:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142707356.650872.122990@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> In <1142707356.650872.122990@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> "Hand of Doom" writes: >it seems the guys who don't have the selling skills, and can't sell >anything, complain the most Eh? How's that follow? Not everyone *wants* to sell anything! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331625 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: "Spammer "66 fourdoor" finished. Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:04:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1142022554.506542.75010@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1142085841.337915.31740@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1142707726.954006.179210@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1142707726.954006.179210@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Hand of Doom" writes: >last summer one hillbilly blues disk went for over $10K on Ebay Yowza! Was that an early acoustic recording? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Thu Mar 23 01:35:05 EST 2006 Article: 331626 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: <1142862035.710379.292160@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1142873089.050840.146950@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 11-tube Magnavox Table Set Lines: 6 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:08:22 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.9.190 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1142899702 67.53.9.190 (Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:08:22 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:08:22 CST Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!24.30.200.11!news-east.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:331626 You'd be surprised to find out how many of these people are in prison, sold the house, set up a trust to pay the rent from the proceeds and are just serving out their time waiting to come back for their stuff and to resume their life... Article: 331627 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Unusual radio? Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:02:31 -0600 Message-ID: <18781-441F4297-2117@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: I think the radio is worth restoring. cuhulin Article: 331628 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Great expectations Message-ID: References: <121u98ma1h9uda3@corp.supernews.com> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:32:29 GMT >Damn, I'm a big spender. I offered $5.99. Don't particularly want it, it's >more a statement on how whacked his buy it now is. > >Ken > > >"Rick Yerke" wrote in message >news:EqydnaM3Lrnrj4LZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@adelphia.com... >>I made a best offer of $2 for the Nestle Crunch radio.Rick >> >> >> In article , >> k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) wrote: >>>In article , >>>rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com says... >>>> >>>> >>>>Witness this: >>>> >>>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6614121785& >>>> >>>>Ray >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>looks like TWO extra Zeros on the end of that start price >>>John k9uwa /w4 >>> > Maybe the seller is crazy like a fox, eh? He's got two bids already from people who probably would never have touched it at a BIN of 9.99. LOL I looked at that thing too. And was puzzled for a moment buy the high BIN. And then I figured the seller is just having fun. Gordon Richmond Article: 331629 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "radionutz" References: <6qhTf.14771$S25.13475@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: OT? my web site Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:49:25 GMT I finally got mine to work by adding QuickTime plug in but ran into an additional problem that way since I already have RealPlayer installed on some pages I got double streams. Considering weather to leave autostart on it or not. I personally don't care since I use IE all the time anyhow. Just wanted it for others. Don't know how to change the frames in rows thing. As someone mentioned spell check, I do use it but I don't know how the mentioned problem got by. I am going to look at it. I don't want to get too too technical about the site since it is just a fun thing to me and not a commercial venture. I figure that people will find it through my suggestion.and not really wanting to publicise it generally. JUST HAVING FUN, DON "radionutz" wrote in message news:6qhTf.14771$S25.13475@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Hi; > been quite awhile since I have been here but had some difficulty and this > may be a little off topic but it does concern my radio web site. > I have some sound bites on a couple of my pages . I use IE as my browser > and all is well there but, when I try to use netscape to view my site I > can' get the sound. > I did it in HTML and use the BGSOUND for IE and the EMBED tag for netscape > but it still doesn't work there. > If anyone has any suggestions as to what I may be doing wrong you can get > back to me off-list at: dmign at earthlink dot net. > > THANKS, DON > > -- > Check out my web site at: > > www.home.earthlink.net/~dmign/index.htm > Article: 331630 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Weird Italian project radio? Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:20:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1142730885.570479.313490@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1142730885.570479.313490@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> djep1@juno.com writes: >links: www.oldradiosrus.com/jpg/weird/weird1.jpg > www.oldradiosrus.com/jpg/weird/weird2.jpg > www.oldradiosrus.com/jpg/weird/weird3.jpg > www.oldradiosrus.com/jpg/weird/weird4.jpg > Had a customer bring this into the shop, It looks like a "project" >someone started and didn't get too far. Some parts have excellent >workmanship, some others are just so-so. Steve's got one on his webpage: http://radio-guy.net/websitefolder/radio/images/page2/radialrado.jpg He seems to think it's a prototype, too. Now that a second one's shown up it seems it might very well have been a production run. Albiet one that never really got off the ground. {Sorry! :} -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331631 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Weird Italian project radio? Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:32:13 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1142730885.570479.313490@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2478-441CC9CA-1041@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> In "Phil Nelson" writes: >Last year, during a visit to Idaho, I took my boys on a joyride in a vintage >tourist plane with an engine something like that. It was so loud that even >with headphones and an onboard sound system, you could only hear the pilot's >comments occasionally, and it was useless to try taking off the phones to >scream remarks at the passenger next to you. Loads of fun, anyhow. The pilot >said they had recently had the engine rebuilt for $40,000. I always liked those rotaries where the crankshaft is bolted to the airframe, the prop attached to the engine block, and the whole shebang spins around. Whadda concept! IIRC, there was a motorcycle built "inside-out" like that, too. >Phil "radios are so cheap!" Nelson They take up less space, and whereas cats love to snooze on a nice warm radio, they just hate it when you fire up a biplane in the living room. Fur flying everywhere. Terrible sight. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331632 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: 11-tube Magnavox Table Set Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:46:08 -0500 Message-ID: <489478Finph5U1@individual.net> References: <1142862035.710379.292160@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1142873089.050840.146950@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1142887312.234888.321770@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> toxcrusadr wrote: > A strange world. Nice work if you can get it. > > Back to the radio: I wonder if that 51 04 AA is April of '51? > > I searched the RARP archives on Google and found a lot on the later > Magnavox stereo consoles and some mention of prewar consoles, but not > much on the period (or the radio) in question. Apparently their > earlier stuff is pretty good quality though. I am looking forward to > firing it up but it would be nice to have a schematic, and a pic so I > know what the missing back should look like. > > Tox Tox i have a magnavox tabletop that is similar to your radio. in fact, it uses the same chassis as yours except it was not equipped with a eye tube. that chassis in your radio was also used in the 1957-59 top line consoles (sans the power supply & 6AQ5 tube). that is a hell of a nice radio. there is somthing that you may need to check. there is a ether a 470k or 100k resistor that goes way out of spec that is connected to the plate of the 6CY5 RF amp tube. that affects the FM reception drastically. so far, i have found this problem on every one of these chassis that i have worked on. > There are 5 antenna > terminals, too, some of which I'm sure are supposed to be strapped or > not depending on internal or external antenna use, but no directions. i believe two of those screws are for a external speaker. -- The Shadow Knows Article: 331633 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "t.hoehler" References: <1142873852.741521.13770@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1142878802.624782.4500@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Transistor Radio History Message-ID: <_5JTf.40234$oL.36939@attbi_s71> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 01:59:22 GMT "Terry S" wrote in message news:1142878802.624782.4500@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Jim manages to one-up me once again :-) > > I'll have to get busy and see if I can dig up Dwight's medical > records... > > Terry. > ROTFLMAO! Good one! Regards, Tom Article: 331634 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <121u98ma1h9uda3@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Great expectations Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 02:15:01 GMT LOL! Could be. Wonder if there will be indignant emails from him or chuckles. Ray "Gordon Richmond" wrote in message news:e7iu1293mdmr4hin6qcqnrtks5mn3dcdft@4ax.com... > >Damn, I'm a big spender. I offered $5.99. Don't particularly want it, > >it's >>more a statement on how whacked his buy it now is. >> >>Ken >> >> >>"Rick Yerke" wrote in message >>news:EqydnaM3Lrnrj4LZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@adelphia.com... >>>I made a best offer of $2 for the Nestle Crunch radio.Rick >>> >>> >>> In article , >>> k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) wrote: >>>>In article , >>>>rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com says... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Witness this: >>>>> >>>>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6614121785& >>>>> >>>>>Ray >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>looks like TWO extra Zeros on the end of that start price >>>>John k9uwa /w4 >>>> >> > Maybe the seller is crazy like a fox, eh? He's got two bids already from > people who > probably would never have touched it at a BIN of 9.99. LOL > > I looked at that thing too. And was puzzled for a moment buy the high BIN. > And then I > figured the seller is just having fun. > > Gordon Richmond Article: 331635 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 03:06:16 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> In "William Sommerwerck" writes: >I once asked a seller why he stuck Eames with Art Deco, when they had little >to do with each other. He replied that he knew this, but that buyers >interested in one tended to be interested in the other. I can sort of see this, but I wonder if it's really true. I love deco, but don't particularly care for the stylings of the "Eames Era". Never having done a survey, informal or otherwise, I don't know if others hold the same view. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331636 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 19:22:51 -0800 Message-ID: <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 03:06:16 +0000 (UTC), Tim Mullen wrote: > I can sort of see this, but I wonder if it's really true. I love deco, >but don't particularly care for the stylings of the "Eames Era". Never >having done a survey, informal or otherwise, I don't know if others hold >the same view. It defies credulity, as I can't think of two more disparate schools of design. I think the real reason is that the seller, looking to reach as many suckers as possible, crams Deco and Eames together to catch as many as can be. Personally, I find that Eames' work did indeed have a futuristic, clean visual line, but as has been confirmed by others, the functionality of his stuff was abyssmal. Deco furnishings tended to be large and very prominent in style, but still very comfortable. Article: 331637 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 03:41:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> In <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> DeserTBoB writes: >On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 03:06:16 +0000 (UTC), Tim Mullen >wrote: >> I can sort of see this, but I wonder if it's really true. I love deco, >>but don't particularly care for the stylings of the "Eames Era". Never >>having done a survey, informal or otherwise, I don't know if others hold >>the same view. >It defies credulity, as I can't think of two more disparate schools of >design. I think the real reason is that the seller, looking to reach >as many suckers as possible, crams Deco and Eames together to catch as >many as can be. Personally, I find that Eames' work did indeed have a >futuristic, clean visual line, but as has been confirmed by others, >the functionality of his stuff was abyssmal. Deco furnishings tended >to be large and very prominent in style, but still very comfortable. I hear ya, but I wasn't really thinking along those lines. I don't collect vintage furniture; all my stuff is modern deco-inspired. It simply gets too much use, what with folks crashing on the couch and all. And if I did pick up vintage seating I wouldn't necessarily see the un-comfort factor as a disadvantage. For things like radios it seems the tenuous connection comes from, as you aptly put it, the "futuristic, clean visual line". I think the fact that this visual ideal was, to some extent, shared by both designs is waht causes them to be lumped together. Nevertheless, I really don't care for the post-war stuff, but adore the 30's and 40's. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331638 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 20:46:34 -0700 Message-ID: <23475-441F771A-1032@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> References: It has something to do with the Benny Hill show . Article: 331639 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: 11-tube Magnavox Table Set Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 03:58:18 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1142862035.710379.292160@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> In <1142862035.710379.292160@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "toxcrusadr" writes: >A friend gave me this yesterday while cleaning out a rental apt. - >actually it's a bizarre story, the renter moved away 9 years ago and >has paid rent ever since, all his stuff and a car just sat there the >whole time...nice deal for the landlord but quite odd...the guy finally >decided he couldn't afford it and said to get rid of the stuff... Parole denied once again? :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331640 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: RCA Tape Cartridge - what models? Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 21:41:50 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 11:13:39 -0800, DeserTBoB wrote: > On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 18:29:33 GMT, "Jon" > wrote: > >>There's a video in the Prelinger Archive >>(http://www.archive.org/details/Revoluti1958) that shows RCA's tape >>cartridge that they introduced in 9158. What models had this tape recorder? > > I have no clue...they're extremely rare, as the format tanked as soon > as car audio showed up with the Muntz/Fidelipac 4 track players. > Audiophiles of the era just scoffed at RCA's cartridges, and stuck > with RTR. > >>Are they hard to find? > > Very. > >>Were many titles released in this format before it >>went by the wayside? > > Fiedler and the like, not much else. > >> I'm interested in trying to add one to my collection, >>but would like to be able to use it, not just look at it. > > Lotsa luck. There were several models but I don't know the numbers. There were prerecorded tapes and blank tapes. There was also an adapter to use 3" open reel tapes in one of these machines. I have only ever seen 1 of the machines, never any tape or the adapter. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 331641 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Darrin Subject: Please help me identify this Silvertone Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 00:32:21 -0500 Message-ID: If anyone knows what model, or has any other info, please let me know. I obtained this radio, and it has no model# It is a Silvertone. http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5848/fd18mq.jpg Article: 331642 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Cameron Subject: Re: Another Cheap High End Zenith- Long Island, NY References: <121qvo0m2h56pf5@corp.supernews.com> <1142922194.755020.24650@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <39STf.19$mu2.14@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:17:03 GMT Paul Dietenberger wrote: > And I think you'll find that the rest of us (well, not to speak for > everyone else, but I am speaking for myself) don't mind at all. I certainly don't mind, as I'm the one who won the auction! Thanks to the person who pointed it out here. Back to lurking... -Cameron Article: 331643 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" Subject: Zenith console with old and new FM Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 07:45:20 -0500 I recently saw a small Zenith console in an antique store. As is typical, it was blocked in and stuff stacked on top so I could not look behind it for a model number etc. It had a pull-out record changer in the front. The controls were on the TOP. Had the "tone organ" keys - 3 on each side - and the roundish reddish plastic knobs. It had broadcast, OLD FM, and NEW FM bands. Any clue as to what model and year? Value in very good cabinet condition? Thanks, Dave Article: 331644 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Iain Churches" Subject: Re: Mick's AX84 Thick Mary Build: Sound clip-full overdrive... Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 15:19:48 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1142909910.737482.149170@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1142917979.291440.261890@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1142919009.552637.290280@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Mick" wrote in message news:1142919009.552637.290280@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Hello Jim, > > Building with a turret board makes things really simple. All the > components need to connect to something, so using the TB gives us a > convenient place to do that. You can build the board outside the amp. > Of course, we might improve tone by moving the tone components right > onto the pots, or at least the MOJO says so. ;-) > > Mick > Agreed. Building with turret board is a very functional compromise between point to point and printed circuit boards. Unlike p to p, turret boards give predictable results and one can easily make changes. All components are supported at each end with very short wiring. They were often used in mil-spec valve equipment. I mount components on one side, and wire links on the other. This is a blank board with turrets inserted (2.65mm holes) and the 6mm feed.through holes to the valve base pins. http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/203TurretBoard.02.jpg This is a board with components mounted, and link wires going to the valve base, which is mounted on a 6mm aluminium plate to which the turret board is attached by 30mm standoffs. http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/203TurretBoard.04.jpg This is the finished module. It can be tested and modified before being fitted into the chassis-The vertical electrolytics have now been replaced by axial types. There are a couple of components missing still in the top row. http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/203TurretBoard.05.jpg regards to all Iain Article: 331645 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <1142700483.809049.215690@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: AVC voltage swing Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 08:30:22 -0600 "nesesu" wrote in message news:1142700483.809049.215690@p10g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > Nelson, I agree that the AVC should swing well over 10 volts. > Assumptions: you are using a high impedance voltmeter [DVM/VTVM],; you > have checked/replaced the AVC filter resistors/capacitors; you have > checked/replaced any of the mentioned tubes for gas and/or grid > current. > The sensitivity control that you were looking for, for this set has a > substantial effect on the AVC, having basically direct control on the > 2nd IF and controlling the 'return' of the AVC so that as it is set to > drop more B+ return voltage [LT.][negative] it will tend to offset the > AVC negative and thus reduce the gain through all the RF/IF stages and > much reduce the AVC swing. You need to turn the Sensitivity control > full CW [R.T.] to see "normal" AVC action. > > Neil S. > Got the sensitivity control in, Neil... thanks for the reminder about setting it "full" for AVC measurements. Touched-up alignment and got oscillation until I replaced the glass 6Q7 that was in there with a metal one. (The original tubes were those sprayed shield things.) The AVC is much stronger now, but I haven't done exact measurements. This radio has some huge sound, but I'm still (in the midst of all this) hunting down an intermittent that requires a band change to get the BC band to come on full strength.. That's the big bugbear now. Seems like it's in/around the first IFT, but I'll try to narrow it down further and be sure before I dismantle the bandwidth mechanism (again) and look in there. At least I can "switch" the intermittent, and it's not totally random! Cheers, Nelson Article: 331646 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Walton speaker wanted Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 07:38:22 -0700 Message-ID: <2683-44200FDE-2777@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: <1142942218.109045.179210@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I will accept a walton without speaker . lets trade ! Article: 331647 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Another Cheap High End Zenith- Long Island, NY Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 07:51:12 -0700 Message-ID: <2683-442012E0-2779@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: <1142922194.755020.24650@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> out of your last 58 self published threads ... =A0 33 contain links to eBay auctions ... You know John has tried very hard to share some interesting projects and their progress or some nice storys about radio stuff and no one or few reply to most of them . Then This group gets few newbies so otherwise it's just the same people talking about the same old stuff. Because this place looks like an ebay group or an off topic group half the time . A topic like antique radios tends to repeat itself after years of existance . You either stick to it for others to learn or you dont . Article: 331648 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Iain Churches" Subject: Re: Mick's AX84 Thick Mary Build: Sound clip-full overdrive... Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:36:07 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1142909910.737482.149170@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1142917979.291440.261890@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1142919009.552637.290280@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1142956030.423491.185480@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> "RickH" wrote in message news:1142956030.423491.185480@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > > Iain Churches wrote: >> "Mick" wrote in message >> news:1142919009.552637.290280@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> > Hello Jim, >> > >> > Building with a turret board makes things really simple. All the >> > components need to connect to something, so using the TB gives us a >> > convenient place to do that. You can build the board outside the amp. >> > Of course, we might improve tone by moving the tone components right >> > onto the pots, or at least the MOJO says so. ;-) >> > >> > Mick >> > >> >> Agreed. Building with turret board is a very functional >> compromise between point to point and printed circuit boards. >> Unlike p to p, turret boards give predictable results and one >> can easily make changes. All components are supported at >> each end with very short wiring. They were often used in >> mil-spec valve equipment. >> >> I mount components on one side, and wire links on the other. >> >> This is a blank board with turrets inserted (2.65mm holes) >> and the 6mm feed.through holes to the valve base pins. >> http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/203TurretBoard.02.jpg >> >> This is a board with components mounted, and link wires going to >> the valve base, which is mounted on a 6mm aluminium plate to which >> the turret board is attached by 30mm standoffs. >> http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/203TurretBoard.04.jpg >> >> This is the finished module. It can be tested and modified before being >> fitted into the chassis-The vertical electrolytics have now been replaced >> by axial types. There are a couple of components missing still in the top >> row. >> http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/203TurretBoard.05.jpg >> >> >> >> regards to all >> Iain > > Nice modular approach Iain. Then do you build a "dumb" backplane > chassis with power supply so that you can swap modules in/out easily? > Have you used this approach for the power amp stages too? I like it. Hello Rick. The module in the pics is for a preamp stage. The metal plate stands vertically in the chassis which is 200mm wide a 80mm high, like a bulkhead in a ship, so that the valves are horizonal and pointing forward. You can see the preamp and its separate psu at: http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/202+PSUfront.jpg http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/202+PSUrear.jpg This was an an early effort. The new psu is the same width 200m as the preamp. For power amplifiers, I use the same technique, with the turret board mounted horizontally below the top plate and the valves sticking through. Here is a pic of a 75W pp power amp proto which is up and running: http://www.kolumbus.fi/iain.churches/Pics/M50board02.jpg Regards to all Iain > Article: 331649 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 10:44:18 -0800 Message-ID: References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> <1142949181.397811.327170@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 11:46:29 -0500, Stewart Schooley wrote: >For me, I can see how someone could take Gaudi and Bauhaus influences >and end up with the Chrysler building. An interesting theory, and probably true. >BTW, I still remember exactly where I was when I first saw the 1953 >Studebaker and knew I had to have one. Got a used one in '55. You had to >be there and see it with 1953 eyes. When I was growing up there were >still 1920s cars on the road, then the 1930s cars and the post war >years. The Stude was a revelation that cars could be so much more. The Raymond Loewy Starlight Coupe, right? It was Studebaker's styling challenge of 1953 that kicked GM, Ford, and especially Chrysler, right in the ass to let them know that "styling matters." GM responded with new middle and senior bodied cars in 1954 that were improved visually, while Chrysler and Ford puttered around until '55 to go head on with the fresh low end bodies GM came up with for Chevrolet and Pontiac. Chrysler, at a talent disadvantage, wound up with who would become the spokesman of excess in automotive styling, Virgil Exner, who completely went over the edge around 1958, and was designing unsaleable cars by 1961, one of Chrysler's worst years. GM was hardly much better; its 1959 product line came in a close second in "over the top" styling. The odd exception was Buick, whose finned but clean design was a big hit, especially when compared to the "Egyptian sun boat" motif of the '59 Cadillac and vitutally all other GM marques that year. Studebaker hit the Big 3 hard one more time in 1963 before falling apart due to familial greed and incompetence with the Loewy-designed Avanti. Despite what he says in his book, Ford division president Lee Iacocca got panicky over the Avanti, which led him to apply his first love, the long hood/short deck layout, to the Falcon platform, which made the Mustang...thus making Iacocca an auto industry titan. While Iacocca takes credit for this cheap 'n dirty project all for himself, it was surely Loewy and Studebaker who lit a fire under him to do so. One has to take everything Iacocca says with a grain of salt; he is, after all, a salesman, first and foremost. Fortunately, though, he had an engineering background and education, and thus made his sales ideas workable. Article: 331650 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: 11-tube Magnavox Table Set Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:21:41 -0500 Message-ID: <48b227Fjbn1oU1@individual.net> References: <1142862035.710379.292160@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1142873089.050840.146950@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1142887312.234888.321770@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <489478Finph5U1@individual.net> <1142913762.536528.20570@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> toxcrusadr wrote: > Thanks Rambler, that's great info. I thought it had to be a nice set > with so many tubes, if one can get past the boxy styling. It could > definitely be a daily player. > > Any chance of getting a pic of yours? Front and back? give me a day or two. got stuff stacked on it. -- The Shadow Knows Article: 331651 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1142968403.079856.11460@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Looking for a Panasonic Ranger 505 TV Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:27:50 GMT wrote in message news:1142968403.079856.11460@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I know this is not a TV forum, but figured it couldnt hurt. Looking > for an old B&W Panasonic Ranger TV. Please email me if you have one > for sale. jshima at timing dot com > They appear on eBay quite frequently, they are a pretty common set, and retail for usually well under $30. You may have to search under "panasonic TV" because it seems the seller's rarely list the model number when selling these. Here's one that closed recently for $16.39: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=5879599636 The same set was sold under other brand names as well. jim menning Article: 331652 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: OT: Online forum software??? References: <1142975329.170124.38680@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:21:32 GMT Probably one of the better, more stable, bulletin board/forum packages I've seen is from the phpBB people. http://www.phpbb.com/features.php Also, you can have it hosted by these people for $8/month. http://www.canaca.com/ Jeff Mick wrote: > Hi Folks, > > Sorry about the OT. > > I'm looking for software (or a pay service) where a group of folks can > view a calendar, download files (admins upload files), and have news. > Anybody know of such a beast? > > I'm running UNIX for our web servers. It may be easier just to pay for > some service, and I'd be happy to for somewhere around $10-$20 per > month. > > Many thanks, > Mick > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331653 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tony Subject: Re: Please help me identify this Silvertone Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 17:12:33 -0500 Message-ID: References: Darrin wrote: > If anyone knows what model, or has any other info, please let me know. > I obtained this radio, and it has no model# It is a Silvertone. > > > http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/5848/fd18mq.jpg Interesting. I can't find that radio in any of my books or the usual web sites. I even checked other manufacturers, and haven't found it. -- NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Article: 331654 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <17vu12pg8mnl8s616vkr7fq325c1os7ar7@4ax.com> <1vh022dgt3fvumq7bi0iema8reqc13im6b@4ax.com> <1142980245.443344.166260@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Walton speaker wanted Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:14:53 -0500 "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1142980245.443344.166260@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > better to just buy a set with the correct speaker and sell the one he > has. there is a 5 tube tombstone that has a speaker that looks the > same. no one would know but him. probably not even the person he (or > whoever) sells the set to eventually. > Exactly what I was about to suggest. The correct speaker is worth more than the radio; if he is a purist that's the way to go. Pete Article: 331655 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:00:57 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> In "William Sommerwerck" writes: >Interestingly, the particular item whose eBay auction I griped about was a >Polaroid SX-70. Although Dr. Land had great respect for the Eameses (they >produced several films for Polaroid, including one about the SX-70), Eames >had nothing to do with the SX-70's design -- which is plainly Art Deco. Designed by The Man in the Brown Suit, Henry Dreyfuss. He's also famous for the Western Electric 302 and Princess telephones, and the Honeywell round thermostat. I don't think the latter two qualify as deco. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331656 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:16:52 -0800 Message-ID: References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:00:57 +0000 (UTC), Tim Mullen wrote: >In "William Sommerwerck" writes: > >>Interestingly, the particular item whose eBay auction I griped about was a >>Polaroid SX-70. Although Dr. Land had great respect for the Eameses (they >>produced several films for Polaroid, including one about the SX-70), Eames >>had nothing to do with the SX-70's design -- which is plainly Art Deco. > > Designed by The Man in the Brown Suit, Henry Dreyfuss. He's also famous >for the Western Electric 302 and Princess telephones, and the Honeywell round >thermostat. I don't think the latter two qualify as deco. :) ...and the Honeywell T87 "The Round" is still being made today, although in a considerably cheaper form made in Mexico, with little of its previous accuracy. Honeywell, after being attacked by Jackass Welch of GE, is a bombed out shell with precious little to offer anymore. Dreyfuss was also famous for various steam locomotive streamlining jobs for the Pennsylvania and NYC. His stainless steel treatments of the NYC J3a Hudson are quite famous. Raymond Loewy also had fame in that department; he designed the GG1 electric for PRR, a unit which lasted for over 50 years and was as much a hallmark of the PRR as their old K4s steamers. Loewy also designed several early diesel-electric carbodies. It's quite a shame that the US no longer has great designers and stylists like it had in the '30s through '50s. In fact, the US doesn't design (much less build) much of anything at all anymore. Article: 331657 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 16:24:55 -0800 Message-ID: References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> <1142949181.397811.327170@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1142982689.452935.18500@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 21 Mar 2006 15:11:29 -0800, "Hand of Doom" wrote: >I read a lot of misconceptions here- first off, the 1950's were the Big >Three's best sales boom years. Again, Charlie Nudo, the asshat, can't read with comprehension, and misses the point of the whole thread. And yes, some of Chrysler's worst sales years are when Exner went "bonkers" circa 1959-'63.and was thrown out of the company. The 1964 model year showed a new, sensible and clean product line free of Exner's weirdness and predilection toward strange curvatures, and their sales in the mid '60s would nip at Ford's. The only thing that kept selling Chryslers back then was their superior engineering...torsion bar suspensions, Torqueflyte, the Slant 6, the Police Interceptor wedges...those worked. Exner's "over the top" styling didn't. And, this thread was about styling, asshat...not any of the spurious crap you came up with. >American made- the best there is ! And always will be ! Nothing is made in the US anymore...and what is, is generally crap. Better get off of Usenet, Noodles...eBay's watching you VERY closely. Article: 331658 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" References: <1142975329.170124.38680@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Online forum software??? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:37:44 GMT Look at Drupal at drupal.org. I'm setting up my family's forum using this. "Mick" wrote in message news:1142975329.170124.38680@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Hi Folks, > > Sorry about the OT. > > I'm looking for software (or a pay service) where a group of folks can > view a calendar, download files (admins upload files), and have news. > Anybody know of such a beast? > > I'm running UNIX for our web servers. It may be easier just to pay for > some service, and I'd be happy to for somewhere around $10-$20 per > month. > > Many thanks, > Mick > Article: 331659 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:44:47 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> In DeserTBoB writes: >It's quite a shame that the US no longer has great designers and >stylists like it had in the '30s through '50s. Sure we do. They're no longer lauded as rock stars like they were in the pre-war era, so they're not as visible. I believe the post atomic era public dismay with technology made it no longer fashionable to flaunt science and engineering, thus as design became more friendly and less in-your-face, so went the designer. Nevertheless, ID is alive and well in the U.S. of A. Check out Frog Design's c.v.: http://frogdesign.com/inside/timeline/index.html Plus, many hit automobiles of foreign make get their skins on in the shops of California, such as Volkswagen's New Beetle. > In fact, the US >doesn't design (much less build) much of anything at all anymore. We design the lion's share of cutting-edge technology. Who ya gonna buy your DSP from? :) Motorola's a good choice, and that's what's inside their Razr, one of the hottest must-have phones out there and a damn nifty example of industrial design. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331660 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Looking for Zenith chassis Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:09:08 -0700 Message-ID: <25085-4420A3B4-3170@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> 10S668 typical Zenith with black buttons both sides of a squarish dial . What i have here is a very restorable cabinet . Mice had just ruined the chassis . I would also like a metal dial/button escutcheon . Both must be super clean . Thanks Article: 331661 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" Subject: John's selling his Walton again. Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 20:38:32 -0500 http://cgi.ebay.com/Zenith-Walton-12S232-Black-Dial-Tombstone-Radio-Texas_W0 QQitemZ6615890028 Article: 331662 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Zenith 6-G-601M Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:41:15 -0700 Message-ID: Looking for a usable chassis for a Zenith 6-G-601M. My son gave me one for Christmas but the chassis had been attacked by a hammer (Yes...it looks like someone got POed at it and hammered the hell out of it...but they never touched the case...go figure ) Ben Article: 331663 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: John's selling his Walton again. Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 01:56:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In " Uncle Peter" writes: >http://cgi.ebay.com/Zenith-Walton-12S232-Black-Dial-Tombstone-Radio-Texas_W0 >QQitemZ6615890028 No way are they worth that much. There's one on eBay every other month! :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331664 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bob Subject: FS..B&K 200D EBAY Message-ID: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 21:16:58 -0500 Good Evening.... For those interested, please check out my 200D B & K signal generator FS...beautiful unit... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7602609958&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 Thank You.... Article: 331665 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 18:43:39 -0800 Message-ID: <52b122lmi82d55qpbb45d5orq2akmp1gsl@4ax.com> References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> <1142949181.397811.327170@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Tue, 21 Mar 2006 19:25:21 -0500, Stewart Schooley wrote: >Just for the record, the Starliner was the hardtop. Credit for the >design goes to Bob Bourke who was one of Loewy's associates. Was Bourke responsible for the whole '53 lineup, or just the hardtop? Either way, it was an impressive design effort. A more unsung designer over at Packard, later Romney's American Motors, was Dick Teague. Teague made his bones by "making something out of nothing" with the failing Packard line by doing a "styling refresh" on the aged 1951-'54 Packard body, a real slug. Packard, after the disastrous "bathtubs" of 1948-'50, was desperate for sales, and didn't have the cash to fund a complete new design change. The '55 and '56 models were the same platform as the staid 1951-'54 models, but due to Teague's ingenious face lifting, looked completely modern. The Russians liked it so much, they copied it line for line for their Zil limousines well into the '60s! If one could fault that Teague effort, it was that he "copy catted" Harley Earl's Cadillac designs for 1955 a little too closely. Ford liked Teague's porposed 1957 concept car a lot, too...they stole the reverse pane backlight for its 1957 Mercury and Lincoln lines, a feature that would last into the early '60s. Teague's efforts at Packard, of course, were too little, too late; the company tanked in late 1955 and was sold to the Studebaker family, whose reworked wagon company was losing ground fast, thanks to the juggernaut of the Big 3. Teague would later go on with AMC to design some of the best looking designs of the '60s and '70s, including the Javelin/AMX pony cars. One Teague design that was really a good utilitarian one, but got lots of laughs, was the Pacer. dB Article: 331666 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Another Cheap High End Zenith- Long Island, NY From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <121qvo0m2h56pf5@corp.supernews.com> <1142922194.755020.24650@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <39STf.19$mu2.14@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net> Message-ID: <2c3Uf.91753$g47.34150@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:07:42 GMT In article <39STf.19$mu2.14@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net>, cspamlidestri@yahoo.com says... > > >I certainly don't mind, as I'm the one who won the auction! Thanks to >the person who pointed it out here. > >Back to lurking... > >-Cameron Looking Good Cameron... that is a nice looking console.. and One Super Price on it... John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331667 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: John's selling his Walton again. Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:05:23 GMT " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:yU1Uf.74$FD4.28@dukeread07... Last time: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6609504812 User ID: jimma7609 Name: Jimma Dunlap Company: City: Modesto State: CA Country: United States Phone: (209) 354-5300 Registered Since: Tuesday, Feb 21, 2006 02:24:36 PST This time: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6615890028 User ID: roglogboo Name: Bonnie L Rogers Company: City: chandler State: AZ Country: United States Phone: (480) 917-7771 Registered Since: Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 02:06:42 PST Looks like a monthly event. Look at the similar registration times. Maybe we can schedule our next alert. Article: 331668 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: John's selling his Walton again. Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:12:15 GMT "jim menning" wrote in message news:T93Uf.13920$Eg2.2270@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > > Phone: (480) 917-7771 > Registered Since: Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 02:06:42 PST > > Phone number is actually good this time. "Hi you have reached Bonnie & David...we can not come to the phone at this time..." Google shows no information for the number. A search does confirm that 480-771-#### is in Chandler, AZ. Maybe this time someone can get caught and convicted? Article: 331669 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: John's selling his Walton again. From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:16:09 GMT In article , grahamiba@comcast.net says... > > > >... those ebay links keep coming back to haunt him ... > whats up with that? > > Looks like the Newsgroup Guys.. thanks Jim ... have this one well in hand... Looks like Slippery Slim the Flim Flam Man is at it again! ... and NOPE its not for sale.... well at 25 G's ... I might consider it!.. I am going to ask Gerry the original seller ... NOT to turn this one into ebay.... think about this... auction ends ... at 25K ... seller gets his sellers account charged ebay commission on 25K ... thats got to be a small bundle ... then he trys to collect the money for the sale... and we know that won't happen ... Jim just doesn't answer the guy... then the guy trys the 2nd chance offer to the other bidders.. who are also not going to answer ... sound to me like the Scammer / Fraudster is going to lose some money on this one... Or am I missing something here? John k9uwa Article: 331670 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: John's selling his Walton again. Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:25:13 GMT "John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird" wrote in message news:Zj3Uf.91802$g47.9341@tornado.tampabay.rr.com... > In article , > grahamiba@comcast.net says... >> >> >> >>... those ebay links keep coming back to haunt him ... >> whats up with that? >> >> > > Looks like the Newsgroup Guys.. thanks Jim ... have this one well > in hand... > > > > Looks like Slippery Slim the Flim Flam Man is at it again! ... > > and NOPE its not for sale.... well at 25 G's ... I might consider > it!.. > > I am going to ask Gerry the original seller ... NOT to turn this one > into ebay.... think about this... > > auction ends ... at 25K ... seller gets his sellers account charged > ebay commission on 25K ... thats got to be a small bundle ... then > he trys to collect the money for the sale... and we know that > won't happen ... Jim just doesn't answer the guy... > > then the guy trys the 2nd chance offer to the other bidders.. who are > also not going to answer ... sound to me like the Scammer / Fraudster > is going to lose some money on this one... > > Or am I missing something here? > > John k9uwa > I could offer to meet in person... jim menning Article: 331671 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" Subject: Marshalltown anyone? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:30:48 GMT http://www.tomharrisauctions.com/Auctions/April%201st%2006%20Radios/april_1st,_2006_radios.htm Article: 331672 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <121qvo0m2h56pf5@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Another Cheap High End Zenith- Long Island, NY Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:50:41 GMT And Im Lovin it! If I could have gotten out to the Island Id have bid on that one! Keith > "Hagstar" wrote in message > news:121qvo0m2h56pf5@corp.supernews.com... >> http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Zenith-Tube-Radio_W0QQitemZ6613488412 >> >> John H. > > > ... out of your last 58 self published threads ... > 33 contain links to eBay auctions ... > most contain only that .... > Article: 331673 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Marshalltown anyone? Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:56:17 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: I love this one: http://www.tomharrisauctions.com/images/April%202006%20Radios/MVC-903S.JPG Is that Tenite? I wonder how big the radio was originally? :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331674 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith console with old and new FM From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: <9Y3Uf.92002$g47.69579@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:59:01 GMT In article , dave@mcclellans.com says... > > >I recently saw a small Zenith console in an antique store. As is typical, >Thanks, >Dave > > How about this one Dave? there is a funny little story behind this one... So.. I am at one of Estes Auctions a few years ago.. back at the old auction place in Medina, Ohio .... now me.. I am over in the corner next to the door along with the rest of the 2nd class citizens ... having a smoke ... and these two consoles come up for bid... one is this Zenith 9h081 and the other a Philco Radio / Phono combo unit.. Wife is setting up in the bidding gallery yakking to this other lady.. the two of them are Ha Ha'ing about these two consoles that sold for 2 bucks for the zenith and 1 buck for the Philco and wondering who the fool was that bought them. ... then wife looked over in the corner to see my holding up my ticket for them to get the bidding number as I am the idiot that bought both of them.. Now it was a bunch of work to restore that Zenith .. lots of nasty rubber insulated wire and the usual part... plated well when we finished it up... I put a 4 speed VM changer in it.. and this nice lady in Dayton just had to have that radio / phono for a sum of $275 ... so that was $273 for the phono / parts/labor to refinish cabinet and rebuild the radio ... and 2 bucks to buy it.. John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331675 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Walton speaker wanted From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <17vu12pg8mnl8s616vkr7fq325c1os7ar7@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 03:33:05 GMT In article <17vu12pg8mnl8s616vkr7fq325c1os7ar7@4ax.com>, blacksmith1@wowway.com says... > > >I know, I know. They are hard to get individually, but does anyone >have either this speaker, this speaker + chassis, or this speaker, >chassis, and beat up cabinet for sale? > >Speaker # AF 49203 > > >Blacksmith >wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom you guys missed your chance here... John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331676 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: John's selling his Walton again. Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:51:56 -0400 Message-ID: <1221lvd2cigok4e@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143001827.766727.167190@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> AuroraOldRadios wrote: > After all, we're talking about > $25k. Whaddaya kidding?!? This auction just started :) Surely it will reach 6 figures....or more. -Bill Article: 331677 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Message-ID: <2cl122d13apmmvodv9qpdh22udbqp1rmdo@4ax.com> References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> <1142949181.397811.327170@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <52b122lmi82d55qpbb45d5orq2akmp1gsl@4ax.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 04:52:29 GMT >Teague's efforts at Packard, of course, were too >little, too late; the company tanked in late 1955 and was sold to the >Studebaker family, whose reworked wagon company was losing ground >fast, thanks to the juggernaut of the Big 3. As a matter of fact, Packard purchased Studebaker, not the other way around. And the Studebaker family had not been actively involved in company management since going into receivership in the early '30s. I'm sure Robert Bourke was involved with the sedan and station wagon design as well as that of the coupes and hardtops. It may not be obvious, but Studebaker wound up having 2 complete body lines from '53 onward, while the competitors had only one line (excluding specialty models). None of the major body panels for a '53 - '55 coupe/hardtop will interchange with its counterpart in the sedan line (including station wagons). This duplication certainly had to increase their unit cost, making the product less competitive in the marketplace, right at the time that Ford and Chevy were engaged in a price war. Bad timing on Studebaker's part. Gordon Richmond (long-time Studebaker owner and SDC member) Article: 331678 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: John's selling his Walton again. Message-ID: <66m122ldf0l6m9u4fl1hk2m43blrdck4m0@4ax.com> References: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 04:57:11 GMT > >"jim menning" wrote in message >news:T93Uf.13920$Eg2.2270@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... >> >> >> Phone: (480) 917-7771 >> Registered Since: Tuesday, Mar 21, 2006 02:06:42 PST >> >> > >Phone number is actually good this time. > >"Hi you have reached Bonnie & David...we can not come to the phone at this time..." > >Google shows no information for the number. > >A search does confirm that 480-771-#### is in Chandler, AZ. Maybe this time someone >can get caught and convicted? > > Probably a bored/mischievous teenage kid, who, even if convicted of fraud, would only get a slap on the wrist from the courts. Gordon Richmond Article: 331679 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... References: <_Iidnbdfu76PjoPZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> <1142949181.397811.327170@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <52b122lmi82d55qpbb45d5orq2akmp1gsl@4ax.com> <2cl122d13apmmvodv9qpdh22udbqp1rmdo@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:02:36 -0600 Gordon Richmond wrote: >> Teague's efforts at Packard, of course, were too >> little, too late; the company tanked in late 1955 and was sold to the >> Studebaker family, whose reworked wagon company was losing ground >> fast, thanks to the juggernaut of the Big 3. > > As a matter of fact, Packard purchased Studebaker, not the other way around. And the > Studebaker family had not been actively involved in company management since going into > receivership in the early '30s. > > I'm sure Robert Bourke was involved with the sedan and station wagon design as well as > that of the coupes and hardtops. > > It may not be obvious, but Studebaker wound up having 2 complete body lines from '53 > onward, while the competitors had only one line (excluding specialty models). None of the > major body panels for a '53 - '55 coupe/hardtop will interchange with its counterpart in > the sedan line (including station wagons). > > This duplication certainly had to increase their unit cost, making the product less > competitive in the marketplace, right at the time that Ford and Chevy were engaged in a > price war. Bad timing on Studebaker's part. > > Gordon Richmond (long-time Studebaker owner and SDC member) > > I guess you do not include the 'sport' models from both Ford and Chevy: the T-Bird (1955) and Corvette (1953) respectively. That would make two body lines for each...not to mention that each was also selling trucks (arguably making three). In fact, although I'm not a Chevy historian; it seems I recall they had a couple of distinctively different lines of trucks simultaneously at some point in the 50's(?). jak Article: 331680 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Scott Irvine Subject: Re: John's selling his Walton again. References: Message-ID: <2e6Uf.839078$x96.388002@attbi_s72> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 06:34:38 GMT Uncle Peter wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/Zenith-Walton-12S232-Black-Dial-Tombstone-Radio-Texas_W0 > QQitemZ6615890028 > > That radio is not worth that much. Do they get fake bidders to get it up that high? Scott Article: 331681 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: for those who may collect calculators, FA: Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:09:41 -0800 Message-ID: <0rt122toblsbm1207nkvbdk5lfebc7t4ea@4ax.com> these are two calculators that may have some collectible interest - particularly the Victor one - if you collect these things, take a look. Both have nice bright vacuum fluorescent displays, the Victor one is driven by a Rockwell chip (you don't see those any more) Sharp EL-2630A printing calculator / adding machine Sell Similar http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=9702235380 Victor Comptometer Medalist 210 Calculator VFD http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7602839177 Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 331682 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 23:11:24 -0800 Message-ID: <6ls122hr2r29msl19au35dti0p4l7cgp11@4ax.com> References: <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> <1142949181.397811.327170@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <52b122lmi82d55qpbb45d5orq2akmp1gsl@4ax.com> <2cl122d13apmmvodv9qpdh22udbqp1rmdo@4ax.com> On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 00:02:36 -0600, jakdedert wrote: >In fact, although I'm not a Chevy historian; it seems I recall they had >a couple of distinctively different lines of trucks simultaneously at >some point in the 50's(?). GM had a "full range" truck line, ranging from ˝ tons up to the diesel tractors. Chevrolet Division shared all sheet metal and some drive line and frame parts with GM Truck and Coach, but not engines in the lesser trucks until 1963. Both used GM (Detroit) 2 stroke diesels exclusively in heavy duty trucks and tractors, unless a customer (like UPS) would make a special order for another manufacturer's engines, which did happen in the '70s a lot. Chevy and GMC did share a short-lived 45° V8 based on the 1960 GMC truck V6, but it was gone by 1966 due to high manufacturing costs and emissions problems. A corporation wide line-cheapening move in 1963 forced GMC to start using more Chevy components, and the last year for the GMC 270" 6 (the engine that won WW II) was 1962. GMC, however, kept its very muscular 305-351-401-478 V6 as an exclusive until it went away in 1972, when it became obvious that the engine could not pass 1974 Federal smog standards. GMC even had a "glued together" 702" V12 version of this engine, mostly found in Canadian logging trucks in the '60s and '70s. "Glued together" vee engines were a pet love of GM's "Boss" Kettering, who pioneered the concept at EMD. Need a V16? "Glue together" two V8s, and so on. Most of these were all 45° engines with separate crank throws. Due to bad management and engineering, common there under "Roger Rabbit" Smith (another zero CEO of US industry), GM lost most of its medium and heavy truck business to foreigners in the 1980s, notably to Volvo, which also later absorbed White, and lost its medium duty 2 stroke diesels due to consent decree to settle anti-trust claims in the bus industry. Since then, medium duty truck production by GM has been sporadic at best, with Ford and Navistar eating their lunch handily. Article: 331683 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... Message-ID: <8dv122tqukp52741so9o998a64b1jhi9ad@4ax.com> References: <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> <1142949181.397811.327170@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <52b122lmi82d55qpbb45d5orq2akmp1gsl@4ax.com> <2cl122d13apmmvodv9qpdh22udbqp1rmdo@4ax.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 07:44:18 GMT >I guess you do not include the 'sport' models from both Ford and Chevy: >the T-Bird (1955) and Corvette (1953) respectively. That would make two >body lines for each...not to mention that each was also selling trucks >(arguably making three). > >In fact, although I'm not a Chevy historian; it seems I recall they had >a couple of distinctively different lines of trucks simultaneously at >some point in the 50's(?). > >jak I mentioned "specialty" models of Ford and Chevy, meaning Tbird and Corvette, respectively. And Studebaker was making, and selling trucks, too. Both Ford and Chevy sold much more volume than did Studebaker, and could afford to produce the limited-market cars. For a small-volume producer like Studebaker, the cost of producing two distinct body lines in the same price class was proportionately greater. The point I was trying to make is this: that Studebaker had rather unfortunately saddled themselves with an inordinately costly production model right at a time when their competitors were getting into a price war. Good cars. Bad strategy. Consider the cost of the extra stamping dies alone. Gordon Richmond Article: 331684 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1142901679.236904.281330@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: RCA Tape Cartridge - what models? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:19:23 GMT It was actually the inspiration for the cassette just a few years later. Ray "Hand of Doom" wrote in message news:1142901679.236904.281330@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > the thumbnail pics there make the cartridge look very similar to the > later ill-fated El Cassette > Article: 331685 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: Subject: Re: RCA Tape Cartridge - what models? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:40:42 GMT I'll have to go through my books. I know there are some in them. Bell, RCA, and Sears had models available. Not many survive, I am sure. Sears had one very interesting model that had two transport mechanisms and a common head set so it could play reels or the cartridges. They were offered until at least 1962. RCA even had one model with a solid state second channel amp. Its been years since I even saw one in real life but they do pop up on eBay now and again, often mis-listed in wrong categories because people who find them don't know what the heck they are. Performance was generally lo-fi as these were marketed for know-nothings and the non-technical and made cheap electronically and mechanically. The cartridge was one problem, it handled tape none-too-well. The speed didn't help either. 3.75 ips with early low-grade oxides was a limitation. Wow and flutter were well above average. Everybody was coming out with cartridges about that time. 3M tried 2 cartridge systems in the 60s too. One was small and oddball and the other was a huge cartridge intended for canned music systems. The small cartridge system even had a changer model available where you could stack carts and it would play them like records. Neither was successful. There was also the Cousino (sp?) system that was almost identical to later 4 & 8-track offerings. It was used for point-of-sale and other repeating uses. It inspired later telephone answering machines but died out. I've always wondered if anyone collected any of them. Ray "Jon" wrote in message news:hwCTf.25147$jf2.10924@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > There's a video in the Prelinger Archive > (http://www.archive.org/details/Revoluti1958) that shows RCA's tape > cartridge that they introduced in 9158. What models had this tape > recorder? Are they hard to find? Were many titles released in this format > before it went by the wayside? I'm interested in trying to add one to my > collection, but would like to be able to use it, not just look at it. > > > -- > Jon Scaptura > Endicott, NY > > See my antique radios here: > http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/ > and the workbench webcam: > http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam > > > Article: 331686 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: Subject: Re: John's selling his Walton again. Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 08:56:08 GMT ROFL! Check the bid history and cancellations. Are we having fun? http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=6615890028 I wonder if this crook ever nets any victims. The warning signs are there: new seller, fancy auction page despite being a first-timer, mail payments only, etc. And anyone who's been on eBay a couple of weeks has seen the same page before. Ray " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:yU1Uf.74$FD4.28@dukeread07... > http://cgi.ebay.com/Zenith-Walton-12S232-Black-Dial-Tombstone-Radio-Texas_W0 > QQitemZ6615890028 > > Article: 331687 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: John's selling his Walton again. Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 06:52:46 -0500 "John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird" wrote in message > > auction ends ... at 25K ... seller gets his sellers account charged > ebay commission on 25K ... thats got to be a small bundle ... then > he trys to collect the money for the sale... and we know that > won't happen ... Jim just doesn't answer the guy... > > then the guy trys the 2nd chance offer to the other bidders.. who are > also not going to answer ... sound to me like the Scammer / Fraudster > is going to lose some money on this one... > > Or am I missing something here? Yes....The fraudster will have a chance to post a neg and cancel the sale for non paying bidder and eBay will cancel the auction fees. _He_ wins. Have eBay cancel the fraudulent auction....Only when it reaches 1,000,000 or 24 hours before the end... Syl Article: 331688 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rene" References: Subject: Re: FS..B&K 200D EBAY Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 06:47:36 -0500 Nice unit I have one just like it. "Bob" wrote in message news:poc122dgnbg4fcup5dmhsrhb25km2plvub@4ax.com... > Good Evening.... > For those interested, please check out my 200D B & K signal > generator FS...beautiful unit... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7602609958&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 > Thank You.... Article: 331689 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Any Antique Radio clubs near Raleigh North Carolina? Message-ID: <62bUf.128$e52.11@fe09.lga> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 07:03:14 -0500 Hi Folks, Just curious, are there any antique radio clubs in the Raleigh North carolina area? Thanks, Sal Brisindi Article: 331690 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" References: <9Y3Uf.92002$g47.69579@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Subject: Re: Zenith console with old and new FM Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 07:14:29 -0500 Yes, it looks like the 9H081, 9H984LP, and 9H079 pictured in radioatticarchives. I checked out the chassis for those and similar sets in Riders 19. The chassis is likely the 9E21 based on features on the radio in question (FM45 and FM100 bands, phono reject switch, tone organ controls, etc). That would mean it should be a 9H881, 882R, 885, or 888R circa 1948. As some one commented, not much value - miniature tubes (YUK - I draw the collecting line somewhere!) and a single ended 6K6 output. At least it uses a 5Y3 rectifier! Weird phono circuit though - what with the "phono oscillator"? Don't think I will be making the trip back to the store to collect it. They were asking $129 and it was in a mall, so it is unlikely they would go more than 10% off. Definitely NOT worth it (to me). I was hoping for an earlier date, possibly pre-war. Thanks to the group for all the information! Dave "John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird" wrote in message news:9Y3Uf.92002$g47.69579@tornado.tampabay.rr.com... > In article , dave@mcclellans.com says... > > > > > >I recently saw a small Zenith console in an antique store. As is > typical, > >Thanks, > >Dave > > > > > > How about this one Dave? > > > Article: 331691 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <62bUf.128$e52.11@fe09.lga> Subject: Re: Any Antique Radio clubs near Raleigh North Carolina? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:38:06 GMT Sal Brisindi > Just curious, are there any antique radio clubs in the Raleigh North > carolina area? Sal, The Carolinas Chapter of the AWA covers all of North and South Carolina. We host 4 Saturday morning swap meets each year plus our annual Conference in Charlotte that's coming up this week, starts Thursday. Details about the club and all of our events can be found at www.cc-awa.org Ron Lawrence, CC-AWA President & Conference Chairman. Article: 331692 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44214EEF.233941DB@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: RCA Tape Cartridge - what models? References: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:20:27 GMT Rune wrote: > > 3M tried 2 cartridge systems in the 60s too. One was small and oddball and > the other was a huge cartridge intended for canned music systems. The small > cartridge system even had a changer model available where you could stack > carts and it would play them like records. Neither was successful. 3M marketed one of their cassette systems to schools by claiming that the students and teachers couldn't damage the cassettes the way they did reel to reel tapes. > There was also the Cousino (sp?) system that was almost identical to later 4 > & 8-track offerings. It was used for point-of-sale and other repeating uses. That is the old broadcast carts used for commercials. There were several different track formats. The two track for mono, with a control track, and the three track stereo version. I saw some that appeared to have been modified that used 8 track record heads wired for tree track use. The cartridge is still made in three sizes, and they were available in a number of standard loop sizes, up to 31 minutes so a half hour radio program would fit into a single cartridge. The shorter loops were used for commercials, tag lines and jingles. These are finally being phased out, and replaced with CD and hard drive based systems. The newest drive I've seen was built by Radio Systems, Inc., and the oldest was a Gates. The four track design was supposed to have been designed by Lear Jet for their private jets, then copied for use in cars. The version used for background music was built by Viking as complete systems, or bare decks. These used the 31 minute cartridges. The later 3M background music system used a cartridge with a pair of 7" reels inside. They were stacked, and ran at 1 7/8 IPS in mono. They had four tracks, and the reversing mechanism controlled the track selector. We had one of those in the mess hall at Ft Greely in the early '70s. The pre-recorded tapes were $400, and we only had one tape, so I borrowed a second reel to reel tape deck and recorded new music. > It inspired later telephone answering machines but died out. Don't forget the round tape loop used by Adelco in their early tape dialers for security systems. > I've always wondered if anyone collected any of them. I had a brand new chrome plated Lear 4 track tape player in the carton, but it disappeared. I collect the -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331693 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Walton speaker wanted From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <17vu12pg8mnl8s616vkr7fq325c1os7ar7@4ax.com> <1143002151.878535.320940@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <7HcUf.67740$_c.61694@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 13:55:15 GMT In article <1143002151.878535.320940@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, menwagoh@msn.com says... > > >Why not use the 8" speaker from a 6S341? I could have bought the >chassis/speaker from one recently but turned it down. Maybe I should >reconsider? > I would like to have it if you don't want it... and yes that one would be fine in the Walton John Article: 331694 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: John's selling his Walton again. From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 14:07:16 GMT In article , jmenningSPAM@new.rr.com says... > > > > >I could offer to meet in person... > >jim menning > > Hi Jim ... well your out of the bidding Jim... need to get back in there.... right now I am top bidder.... you need to get back in there and bid a couple more times... price is cheap enough now that a legitimate bidder might fall for it... John Article: 331695 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: John's selling his Walton again. Message-ID: <4_dUf.13983$Eg2.8584@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:23:44 GMT "John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird" wrote in message news:oScUf.67779$_c.20352@tornado.tampabay.rr.com... > In article , > jmenningSPAM@new.rr.com says... >> >> >> >> >>I could offer to meet in person... >> >>jim menning >> >> > Hi Jim ... well your out of the bidding Jim... need to get back > in there.... right now I am top bidder.... > > you need to get back in there and bid a couple more times... price > is cheap enough now that a legitimate bidder might fall for it... > > John > The fools cancelled my bid "the bidder is mocking me" but failed to add me to their "blocked bidder list". Rookies! I also received an eBay message from another opportunistic seller: >From shutterdial (398) Hi There, We have that same set 12S232 all matching numbers our chassis is nicer and the shutterdials are mint We are considering putting this on tomarow It has been in our family sence 1970 The cabniet has been pro done and is exellent, chassis was rebuilt to the higest standard and warantted for five years Now that's just despicable... jim menning Article: 331696 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: John's selling his Walton again. Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 12:50:52 -0400 Message-ID: <122303d9k7fcg6e@corp.supernews.com> References: <4_dUf.13983$Eg2.8584@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> jim menning wrote: > > The fools cancelled my bid "the bidder is mocking me" but failed to add me to their > "blocked bidder list". Rookies! > > > I also received an eBay message from another opportunistic seller: Maybe the same person - haha! -Bill Article: 331697 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Filters do work well... Message-ID: <1gfUf.10023$w86.9204@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:51:09 GMT I'm running Netscape 7.x and if you right click on the sender, you have the option to "create filter from..." So, as I scroll down my list of things, I see "22 new messages" in rec.antiques.radio+phono. As I click on that folder, I watch the number of new messages drop to 15. As they say, Stupidity filters do work. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331698 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: John's selling his Walton again. Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:23:03 GMT " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:yU1Uf.74$FD4.28@dukeread07... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Zenith-Walton-12S232-Black-Dial-Tombstone-Radio-Texas_W0 > QQitemZ6615890028 > > Just received from eBay: Dear jim menning (spamerican@new.rr.com), The following is a notice from eBay Trust & Safety regarding: Item Number - 6615890028 Item Title - Zenith Walton 12S232 Black Dial Tombstone Radio Texas Our records show that you were a bidder or buyer of one or more of this seller's items. We recently removed this seller's active listings and suspended the seller's trading privileges. Due to privacy concerns we cannot share further details about this seller. Article: 331699 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Shielded dual banana plug Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 11:54:41 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1143055466.088667.107150@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> On 22 Mar 2006 11:24:26 -0800, "nesesu" wrote: >Does anyone in the group happen to have a shielded dual banana plug or >even the shield shell for one, that they are willing to part with? >The shield shell is usually a deep drawn heavy metal 'cup' about 1-3/4" >L x 3/4"W x about 2" Deep, and usually painted grey or black. Inside at >the back there is a plate carrying two banana plugs on 3/4" centres and >on the outside back a screw behind the 'ground' plug and a grommet >behind the 'hot' plug. I need to shield the input connection to my HP >400L when I am making high impedance low level measurements, and >aluminum foil is a nusance. Pomona sold these years ago, and still may. The ones I have are by them, which I use on a 400H, a 200CD and other dual banana gear. Aluminum doesn't work as an electromagnetic shield, by the way. dB Article: 331700 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: Shielded dual banana plug Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:09:51 +0100 Message-ID: <5a19dccb4970b07b231ac5bf946eca10@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: <1143055466.088667.107150@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Where do I send it? You can email your address to me at lawnweeds100@yahoo.com -Pete O Article: 331701 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Shielded dual banana plug References: <1143055466.088667.107150@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:03:32 -0500 But IF cans are aluminum. DeserTBoB wrote: > On 22 Mar 2006 11:24:26 -0800, "nesesu" > wrote: > > >>Does anyone in the group happen to have a shielded dual banana plug or >>even the shield shell for one, that they are willing to part with? >>The shield shell is usually a deep drawn heavy metal 'cup' about 1-3/4" >>L x 3/4"W x about 2" Deep, and usually painted grey or black. Inside at >>the back there is a plate carrying two banana plugs on 3/4" centres and >>on the outside back a screw behind the 'ground' plug and a grommet >>behind the 'hot' plug. I need to shield the input connection to my HP >>400L when I am making high impedance low level measurements, and >>aluminum foil is a nusance. > > > Pomona sold these years ago, and still may. The ones I have are by > them, which I use on a 400H, a 200CD and other dual banana gear. > Aluminum doesn't work as an electromagnetic shield, by the way. > > dB Article: 331702 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: John's selling his Walton again. From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:16:40 GMT In article , jmenningSPAM@new.rr.com says... > > > Phooey ... also received the same message .. spoiled all the fun.. but I didn't get the 2nd chance offer that you got Jim... I feel slighted! noticed in your 2nd chance offer .. the Engrish looked like eastern EU trying to sound like mericans John k9uwa /w4 >Just received from eBay: > >Dear jim menning (spamerican@new.rr.com), > >The following is a notice from eBay Trust & Safety regarding: > >Item Number - 6615890028 > >Item Title - Zenith Walton 12S232 Black Dial Tombstone Radio Texas > >Our records show that you were a bidder or buyer of one or more of this seller's >items. We recently removed this seller's active listings and suspended the seller's >trading privileges. Due to privacy concerns we cannot share further details about >this seller. > > > Article: 331703 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: John's selling his Walton again. Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:27:26 GMT "John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird" wrote in message news:sVkUf.92157$Fw6.31506@tornado.tampabay.rr.com... > In article , > jmenningSPAM@new.rr.com says... >> >> >> > Phooey ... also received the same message .. spoiled all the fun.. > but I didn't get the 2nd chance offer that you got Jim... I feel > slighted! > > noticed in your 2nd chance offer .. the Engrish looked like eastern > EU trying to sound like mericans > > John k9uwa /w4 > It did have plenty of mistakes, but it was from a serious eBayer. http://cgi3.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=shutterdial He must be a Zenith collector, he's been using the "shutterdial" name since 1998. jim menning Article: 331704 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." Subject: Civil Defense Radio?? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:08:08 GMT I recently acquired this fairly common RCA plastic/aluminum portable, model 2BX-something, and noticed something quite unusual. There's a "CD" logo on two spots on the dial, and it appears to be original. It's the same logo found on those Civil Defense geiger counters, except this uses the grey and white colors of the dial. Did RCA produce radios for the the Civil Defense Agency? How common is a radio like this, and does it have any value? -- To reply via Email, remove NOSPAM from the address Article: 331705 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." References: Subject: Re: FS..B&K 200D EBAY Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:08:09 GMT Watch out, there are a few people on here who do not appreciate it when someone posts a link to their own Ebay auction. I stopped doing that ages ago after someone blasted me and threatened to report me to Ebay...... "Bob" wrote in message news:poc122dgnbg4fcup5dmhsrhb25km2plvub@4ax.com... > Good Evening.... > For those interested, please check out my 200D B & K signal > generator FS...beautiful unit... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7602609958&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 > Thank You.... Article: 331706 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" References: Subject: Re: Civil Defense Radio?? Message-ID: <8XlUf.13989$6a1.5484@fed1read04> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:26:47 -0800 At URL: http://antiqueradio.org/identify.htm Sez Civil Defense (CD) markings on the AM dial at 640 and 1240 kilohertz indicate that the radio was made between 1953 and 1963. -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "Chris F." wrote in message news:IFlUf.47816$VV4.757722@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > I recently acquired this fairly common RCA plastic/aluminum portable, > model 2BX-something, and noticed something quite unusual. There's a "CD" > logo on two spots on the dial, and it appears to be original. It's the > same logo found on those Civil Defense geiger counters, except this uses > the grey and white colors of the dial. > Did RCA produce radios for the the Civil Defense Agency? How common is a > radio like this, and does it have any value? > > -- > To reply via Email, remove NOSPAM from the address > Article: 331707 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" Subject: How to Identify Old Radios URL: Message-ID: <_ZlUf.13992$6a1.1239@fed1read04> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:29:50 -0800 FYI: http://antiqueradio.org/identify.htm I am sure most of the regulars know the contents But for new folks -- maybe take a look and book mark it -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! Article: 331708 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Civil Defense Radio?? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 19:43:09 -0500 CONELRAD warning system. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONELRAD It was the predecessor to the EBS system. Those dial markings were mandated by the government. A part of our cold war legacy. Pete Article: 331709 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Spammers urnt viry smert Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:43:29 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Another eBay spoof just slipped thru my filters. At least this one was valid html. And said my eBay user name was included, which, of course, it wasn't. But here's the line that made me laff: Activity with rshadman (last 90 days): - I have bid on 1547 items from rshadman What is WRONG with these idiots? Yeah, I know -- no one ever accused spammers of being very bright. But, c'mon! If you're going to go to the trouble of trying to scam someone, and that little box pops up in your scam-O-matic software asking how many times you want to claim you've dealt with someone, wouldn't you pick a number that doesn't stand out? Damn! The least these people could do for invading my mailbox is be a LITTLE less lame. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331710 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4421F1D8.A99A306@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Spammers urnt viry smert References: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 00:55:43 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > > Another eBay spoof just slipped thru my filters. At least this one > was valid html. And said my eBay user name was included, which, of > course, it wasn't. But here's the line that made me laff: > > Activity with rshadman (last 90 days): - I have bid on 1547 items from rshadman > > What is WRONG with these idiots? Yeah, I know -- no one ever accused > spammers of being very bright. But, c'mon! If you're going to go to the > trouble of trying to scam someone, and that little box pops up in your > scam-O-matic software asking how many times you want to claim you've > dealt with someone, wouldn't you pick a number that doesn't stand out? > Damn! The least these people could do for invading my mailbox is be a > LITTLE less lame. If they had a little more intelegence they could pick up garbage or flip burgers. There are just too many ******* idiots to put them all in politics. :( -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331711 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" References: <8XlUf.13989$6a1.5484@fed1read04> Subject: Re: Civil Defense Radio?? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 16:55:50 -0800 Forgot to add the URL for Conelrad http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CONELRAD -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:8XlUf.13989$6a1.5484@fed1read04... > At URL: > http://antiqueradio.org/identify.htm > > Sez > > Civil Defense (CD) markings on the AM dial at 640 and 1240 kilohertz > indicate that the radio was made between 1953 and 1963. > > -- > CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! > > > > > > > "Chris F." wrote in message > news:IFlUf.47816$VV4.757722@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... >> I recently acquired this fairly common RCA plastic/aluminum portable, >> model 2BX-something, and noticed something quite unusual. There's a "CD" >> logo on two spots on the dial, and it appears to be original. It's the >> same logo found on those Civil Defense geiger counters, except this uses >> the grey and white colors of the dial. >> Did RCA produce radios for the the Civil Defense Agency? How common is a >> radio like this, and does it have any value? >> >> -- >> To reply via Email, remove NOSPAM from the address >> > > Article: 331712 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Carter, K8VT" Subject: Re: Civil Defense Radio?? References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 01:26:48 GMT Chris F. wrote: > I recently acquired this fairly common RCA plastic/aluminum portable, > model 2BX-something, and noticed something quite unusual. There's a "CD" > logo on two spots on the dial, and it appears to be original. It's the same > logo found on those Civil Defense geiger counters, except this uses the grey > and white colors of the dial. > Did RCA produce radios for the the Civil Defense Agency? How common is a > radio like this, and does it have any value? > Well, the radio may or may not have value, but if it does, it won't be because of the "CD" markings. Also, this was a Federal law that had to be followed by all manufactures, not just RCA. BTW, the CD stood for "Civil Defense" or "CONtrol of ELectromagnetic RADiation" or CONELRAD. This was a byproduct of the Cold War--if the country came under attack, all regular broadcasting was supposed to stop so that the Russian bombers could not find their targets via RDF (radio direction finding). Remember, this was in the pre-ICBM days. The populace was instructed to tune to 640 or 1240 kc/s (no "kHz" back then) for instructions. Participating radio stations were set up to operate on their regular frequency (naturally) and also either 640 or 1240. All participating stations had access to the common CD audio. One station would broadcast for "x" amount of time and then another station would pick up the broadcast, the point being to deceive the direction finding process. As a side note, ham radio operators were required to have a "CONELRAD monitor", basically a receiver tuned to a powerful local station's regular frequency and have a pilot light that indicated a carrier. If the light went out (i.e. the station quit transmitting on their regular frequency), the ham was supposed to stop transmitting. (I guess they figured the Russky bomber pilot had a ham Callbook with him) . Article: 331713 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Spammers urnt viry smert Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 01:27:57 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4421F1D8.A99A306@earthlink.net> In <4421F1D8.A99A306@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: > If they had a little more intelegence they could pick up garbage or >flip burgers. There are just too many ******* idiots to put them all in >politics. :( Heh. Well, they've got the right ethics! :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331714 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Shielded dual banana plug Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 18:08:38 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1143055466.088667.107150@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1143078257.194749.15630@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 22 Mar 2006 17:44:17 -0800, "Hand of Doom" wrote: >(laughter...) > >D-Boob is only a "technician" in his own mind... > >in reality, he's an unemployed phone guy- who drives a ' 79 Honda >shitbox > >fill in the blanks- the guy is a wannabe Charlie Nudo 160 Bear Run Dr Drums, PA 18222 570-788-4115 66fourdoor on eBay Fraudster and spamster, guilty of trademark infringment, tax evasion, wire and mail fraud, and yet, eBay won't kill his account, proving once more that the old saw that eBay protects its Power Sellers regardless of their crimes is true. However, you'll notice that the spam has stopped. One more spam complaint, and his eBay account WILL be suspended. Make my day, Noodles. Oh yeah...by the way, I've never owned a 1979 Honda anything. Article: 331715 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1143055466.088667.107150@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Shielded dual banana plug Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:09:36 -0500 "DeserTBoB" wrote in message news:tna322ttecus6k7mfbmmsuj5nhr7ickll2@4ax.com... > On 22 Mar 2006 11:24:26 -0800, "nesesu" > wrote: > > > Pomona sold these years ago, and still may. The ones I have are by > them, which I use on a 400H, a 200CD and other dual banana gear. > Aluminum doesn't work as an electromagnetic shield, by the way. > > dB His need would be capacitive isolation. There is no mechanism for a magnetic field to couple to any degree in that application. Pete Article: 331716 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Shielded dual banana plug References: <1143055466.088667.107150@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 02:10:19 GMT I think the IF can will shield RF signals. Ken wrote: > But IF cans are aluminum. > > DeserTBoB wrote: > >> On 22 Mar 2006 11:24:26 -0800, "nesesu" >> wrote: >> >> >>> Does anyone in the group happen to have a shielded dual banana plug or >>> even the shield shell for one, that they are willing to part with? >>> The shield shell is usually a deep drawn heavy metal 'cup' about 1-3/4" >>> L x 3/4"W x about 2" Deep, and usually painted grey or black. Inside at >>> the back there is a plate carrying two banana plugs on 3/4" centres and >>> on the outside back a screw behind the 'ground' plug and a grommet >>> behind the 'hot' plug. I need to shield the input connection to my HP >>> 400L when I am making high impedance low level measurements, and >>> aluminum foil is a nusance. >> >> >> Pomona sold these years ago, and still may. The ones I have are by >> them, which I use on a 400H, a 200CD and other dual banana gear. >> Aluminum doesn't work as an electromagnetic shield, by the way. >> >> dB > Article: 331717 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: for those who may collect calculators, FA: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 02:26:38 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <0rt122toblsbm1207nkvbdk5lfebc7t4ea@4ax.com> <1143080147.557654.255800@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> In <1143080147.557654.255800@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "AB9GO" writes: >I had a Freeden that used a oscope tube for a display, 400+ >transistors, a mechanical memory that was similar to a reverb unit! It >was just a 4 function, but had a stack and used Reverse Polish Notation >for entry. What a machine!!!! Whoa! That sounds cool. Wonder if the memory was a mercury delay line? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_delay_line That big one in the photo would be just the ticket for adding a programmable alarm to those nixie clocks. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331718 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44220D0E.DF055613@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Any Antique Radio clubs near Raleigh North Carolina? References: <62bUf.128$e52.11@fe09.lga> Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 21:50:54 -0500 Thanks for the information Ron. Sal Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > Sal Brisindi > > Just curious, are there any antique radio clubs in the Raleigh North > > carolina area? > > Sal, > > The Carolinas Chapter of the AWA covers all of North and South > Carolina. We host 4 Saturday morning swap meets each year > plus our annual Conference in Charlotte that's coming up > this week, starts Thursday. > Details about the club and all of our events can be found at > www.cc-awa.org > > Ron Lawrence, CC-AWA President & Conference Chairman. Article: 331719 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: John's selling his Walton again. From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 02:46:59 GMT In article , blacksmith1@wowway.com says... > > >I came in late on the discussion of the last sale. Who's pictures are >they? Who has the radio now? John? Did you buy it or sell it? >Blacksmith I am the orignal buyer of the auction... this is the url for the real auction... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6583231825 its old enough now that the pictures are gone.. but they fraudsters must have saved them... they only took out the bit about christmas in the description... other than that.. description and pictures identical.... this one claimed to be in Chandler, AZ ... the last one ahead of this was in CA someplace.. prior to that The Bronx and prior to that Deland, FL ... each time .. identical pictures and description and brand new ebayer signed up the same day as the start of the auction.. and NO I am not selling the radio... John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331720 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" References: <0rt122toblsbm1207nkvbdk5lfebc7t4ea@4ax.com> <1143080147.557654.255800@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: for those who may collect calculators, FA: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:31:24 -0800 I remember these but I believe the spelling was Friden See URL for Friden's first electronic calculator with O'scope http://www.oldcalculatormuseum.com/friden130.html OR see the museum index at URL: http://www.oldcalculatormuseum.com/calcs.html -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:dvt10u$qll$1@reader2.panix.com... > In <1143080147.557654.255800@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "AB9GO" > writes: > >>I had a Freeden that used a oscope tube for a display, 400+ >>transistors, a mechanical memory that was similar to a reverb unit! It >>was just a 4 function, but had a stack and used Reverse Polish Notation >>for entry. What a machine!!!! > > Whoa! That sounds cool. > > Wonder if the memory was a mercury delay line? > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_delay_line > > That big one in the photo would be just the ticket for adding a > programmable alarm to those nixie clocks. > > -- > Tim Mullen > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. > ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331721 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: for those who may collect calculators, FA: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:48:14 -0800 Message-ID: References: <0rt122toblsbm1207nkvbdk5lfebc7t4ea@4ax.com> <1143080147.557654.255800@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:31:24 -0800, "Caveat Lector" wrote: >I remember these but I believe the spelling was Friden How well I remember THOSE boatanchors! During college, I had a short stint at a car dealership. Although 4 function calculators were becoming fairly cheap and common by that time, the owner would NOT get rid of that old Friden calculator. The sound of all that repetitive chunking and clunking was music to his ears alterting him to when a deal was being made, something the electronic calcs couldn't provide him. It was a pretty interesting bit of electromechnical design, for certain. Article: 331722 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: GE Console ID Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 05:06:53 GMT I have just been promised this cabinet. I have a 5 knob chassis that I am hoping will fit. a model number would help with a google search, I would like to see what the chassis should look like. Photo on the binaries. thanks :) Phil Article: 331723 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: what the heck is eames.... References: <51su12l1lovtlkrg4h8mnkctlgi2feni43@4ax.com> <1142949181.397811.327170@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <52b122lmi82d55qpbb45d5orq2akmp1gsl@4ax.com> <2cl122d13apmmvodv9qpdh22udbqp1rmdo@4ax.com> <8dv122tqukp52741so9o998a64b1jhi9ad@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:39:34 -0600 Gordon Richmond wrote: >> I guess you do not include the 'sport' models from both Ford and Chevy: >> the T-Bird (1955) and Corvette (1953) respectively. That would make two >> body lines for each...not to mention that each was also selling trucks >> (arguably making three). >> >> In fact, although I'm not a Chevy historian; it seems I recall they had >> a couple of distinctively different lines of trucks simultaneously at >> some point in the 50's(?). >> >> jak > > I mentioned "specialty" models of Ford and Chevy, meaning Tbird and Corvette, > respectively. Indeed you did. > > And Studebaker was making, and selling trucks, too. Both Ford and Chevy sold much more > volume than did Studebaker, and could afford to produce the limited-market cars. For a > small-volume producer like Studebaker, the cost of producing two distinct body lines in > the same price class was proportionately greater. > Seems I do remember some Studebaker trucks from back then.... > The point I was trying to make is this: that Studebaker had rather unfortunately saddled > themselves with an inordinately costly production model right at a time when their > competitors were getting into a price war. Good cars. Bad strategy. Consider the cost of > the extra stamping dies alone. > Point taken. jak > Gordon Richmond > Article: 331724 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <44214EEF.233941DB@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: RCA Tape Cartridge - what models? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 07:20:03 GMT "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44214EEF.233941DB@earthlink.net... > Rune wrote: >> >> 3M tried 2 cartridge systems in the 60s too. One was small and oddball >> and >> the other was a huge cartridge intended for canned music systems. The >> small >> cartridge system even had a changer model available where you could stack >> carts and it would play them like records. Neither was successful. > > > 3M marketed one of their cassette systems to schools by claiming that > the students and teachers couldn't damage the cassettes the way they did > reel to reel tapes. That would be the big green ones introduced about 1969-70. The first ones actually had cases by Samsonite. They added models that would control slide and filmstrip projectors and the line took off. In '82 or '83 they came out with digital models with built-in effects. >> There was also the Cousino (sp?) system that was almost identical to >> later 4 >> & 8-track offerings. It was used for point-of-sale and other repeating >> uses. > > > That is the old broadcast carts used for commercials. I worked on both. The Cousino units were tiny boxes with everything built-in. The carts ended up all over the field and they must have done pretty well off the licensing for a while. > 3M background music system used a cartridge with a pair of 7" reels > inside. They were stacked, and ran at 1 7/8 IPS in mono. They had four > tracks, and the reversing mechanism controlled the track selector. We > had one of those in the mess hall at Ft Greely in the early There was one still in use in the early 80s by a local garden outfit and they hauled it to the annual flower show each year. I don't know how long they continued to use it after I serviced it. >> It inspired later telephone answering machines but died out. > Don't forget the round tape loop used by Adelco in their early tape > dialers for security systems. I had a couple of those in my basement until I moved a couple of years ago. Damn but I feel old... Article: 331725 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: Re: Shielded dual banana plug Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:32:24 -0800 Message-ID: <6mj4229par2iin0vc1rbf9f90r3vln7f3c@4ax.com> References: <1143055466.088667.107150@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> I think I have what you need, contact me off the list - I was wondering what to do with these things, now if I can only find them again contact me by unmangling my email or visit my web site and get my email address there (web site is www.wbnoble.com) don't reply to this note, that won't work On 22 Mar 2006 11:24:26 -0800, "nesesu" wrote: >Does anyone in the group happen to have a shielded dual banana plug or >even the shield shell for one, that they are willing to part with? >The shield shell is usually a deep drawn heavy metal 'cup' about 1-3/4" >L x 3/4"W x about 2" Deep, and usually painted grey or black. Inside at >the back there is a plate carrying two banana plugs on 3/4" centres and >on the outside back a screw behind the 'ground' plug and a grommet >behind the 'hot' plug. I need to shield the input connection to my HP >400L when I am making high impedance low level measurements, and >aluminum foil is a nusance. > >Thanks for any information. >Neil S. Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 331726 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: Subject: Re: RCA Tape Cartridge - what models? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 07:38:28 GMT I don't have much but here are a few: Bell 601 - Mono - 1963 Bell 603 - Stereo - 1963 Silvertone 3238 - Stereo 1963-4 - RtoR or Cart - 3 motor RtoR drive RCA 3YD11 - Stereo - 1964 I also found some exploded views of the cartridge and diagrams of the tape movement. Identical to a regular cassette with frills: Because of the large size and mass of the tape packs they had a brake system like home videocassettes would later use to prevent spills when the cartridge was off the machine. Slots on either side allowed for tripping an end-of-tape switch. They also had the safety tabs like cassettes to prevent accidental recording over prerecorded tapes or those you wanted to save. Track locations were the same as reel-to-reel recorders. Tape was oxide-out like Philips' cassettes. Hope that helps some. Ray "Jon" wrote in message news:hwCTf.25147$jf2.10924@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > There's a video in the Prelinger Archive > (http://www.archive.org/details/Revoluti1958) that shows RCA's tape > cartridge that they introduced in 9158. What models had this tape > recorder? Are they hard to find? Were many titles released in this format > before it went by the wayside? I'm interested in trying to add one to my > collection, but would like to be able to use it, not just look at it. > > > -- > Jon Scaptura > Endicott, NY > > See my antique radios here: > http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/ > and the workbench webcam: > http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam > > > Article: 331727 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: Re: for those who may collect calculators, FA: Date: Wed, 22 Mar 2006 23:39:29 -0800 Message-ID: References: <0rt122toblsbm1207nkvbdk5lfebc7t4ea@4ax.com> <1143080147.557654.255800@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> in my pile of interesting stuff are a couple of the Frieden mechanical calculators - years ago, a guy had a garage packed to the ceiling with old calculators and had to get rid of them (moving? I don't remember) so I bought several interesting ones which I then fixed up - generally sticky grease. As to the earlier post about lockheed surplus - I wonder if that was one that I had brought in and left behind - in the late 70s, I was working in the Rye Canyon facility debugging the first ever digital autopilot for passanger planes, and choose the "late" shift - there were times when we needed a calculator and I could never find one when I needed it - so I brought in a couple of really early electronic calculators - one was "toshical" if I remember right - all discretes with individual nixies or VFDs, lots of small circuit boards, magnetic reed switches on the keys - I had fixed them and figured they were "theft proof" - they certainly lasted through the L-1011 test program, and when it ended, I never went back to pick them up - the victor may have been one of those, I don't remember what he other calc I brought in was. probably a valuable antique now, or it's under 30 feet of garbage in a land fill somewhere. by the way, no bids yet on the two calcuators that started this thread - where's jeff when I need him? On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:48:14 -0800, DeserTBoB wrote: >On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 20:31:24 -0800, "Caveat Lector" > wrote: > >>I remember these but I believe the spelling was Friden > >How well I remember THOSE boatanchors! > >During college, I had a short stint at a car dealership. Although 4 >function calculators were becoming fairly cheap and common by that >time, the owner would NOT get rid of that old Friden calculator. The >sound of all that repetitive chunking and clunking was music to his >ears alterting him to when a deal was being made, something the >electronic calcs couldn't provide him. It was a pretty interesting >bit of electromechnical design, for certain. Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 331728 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: GE Console ID From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:16:55 GMT In article , philsvintageradiosREMOVE@shaw.ca says... > > >I have just been promised this cabinet. I have a 5 knob chassis that I >am hoping will fit. a model number would help with a google search, I >would like to see what the chassis should look like. >Photo on the binaries. >thanks :) > >Phil Its pretty close to an RCA 813K or 816K ... keep in mind that GE built the RCA radios . I didn't find an exact radio in the Stein Console book in either GE or RCA sections. John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331729 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1143082291.171099.47850@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1143116865.777502.165820@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:30:00 GMT In article <1143116865.777502.165820@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, eb062559@aol.com says... > > >mark oppatt has them...i think. he is at the charlotte show for a few >days. try rock sea enterprizes. a google search should provide a link. > Hi Eddie ... yes Mark Oppat has the dials for the 38-116 Philco... Mark stopped here to yak a bit yesterday... on his way to Charlotte Dan..;. assuming that email addy is correct see your mailbox for contact info on Mark and the dial price and part number... John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331730 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: for those who may collect calculators, FA: References: <0rt122toblsbm1207nkvbdk5lfebc7t4ea@4ax.com> <1143080147.557654.255800@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:52:20 GMT William B Noble (don't reply to this address) wrote: > by the way, no bids yet on the two calcuators that started this thread > - where's jeff when I need him? Hiding... Actually, I reallly enjoyed this. Caveat Lector posted the museum link. I searched for and found a few calculators that I saw early on in my career. In the words of Mr. Spock, "Facinating." Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331731 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <4422247C.2040205@shaw.ca> Subject: Re: John's selling his Walton again. Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 15:01:47 GMT "Dean Chesterman" wrote in message news:4422247C.2040205@shaw.ca... > > And I predict the person will register and list it again on April 21st after 2 and > try to sell your radio again! > > Dean Chesterman > Must be an echo in here. jim menning Article: 331732 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Filters do work well... References: <1gfUf.10023$w86.9204@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:00:18 GMT Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Stupidity filters do work. It must be a major cat fight that I'm missing. On average, over the past day or so, I see upwards of 40-50 message per day go into the bit bucket. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331733 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: paulSPAM@paulsherwin.co.uk (Paul Sherwin) Subject: Re: Spammers urnt viry smert Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 16:01:26 GMT Message-ID: <4422c51a.14892414@news.demon.co.uk> References: On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 09:22:15 -0500, Blacksmith wrote: >No kidding. Here's a fake Amazon.com e-mail I just received. > > " In order to maintain the integrity of the entire Amazon.com system >, our crew members is running an data base update . This decision was >taken by the High Executive Beaurau of Amazon.com and it should be >followed by all of it's customers . Most phishing scammers don't speak English as their first language. You'd think they could find some US, British or Australian student or backpacker to proof read the text for them though. Best regards, Paul -- Paul Sherwin Consulting http://paulsherwin.co.uk Article: 331734 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg) Subject: Re: Looking for Zenith chassis Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 07:54:02 -0800 Message-ID: <7486-4422C49A-259@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net> References: <25085-4420A3B4-3170@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> Sorry Ken, but I don't have one, but either a 10B1 or 10B2 series chassis will work. That info is found on the paper chassis tag incase someone has a spare chassis layng around. On the 10B2 you also have the phono input jack. Used in the following models: 10-S-668, 10-S-669, 10-S-690. Article: 331735 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg) Subject: Re: More advice on my Zenith 8A02 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:06:54 -0800 Message-ID: <7486-4422C79E-260@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net> References: <1143127359.823263.259330@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> I repaired a 10-S-669 set years ago for a customer. It had a very weak 7G7/1232 tube in it. It worked, but not well. I ordered one from AES. It arrived and I installed it. The set did not work at all then. Put the old tube back in and it worked as it had before. So, I pull out the tube tester, and check the new tube. No reading. So I look closer at the two tubes. They look very different. Must had been mismarked at the factory. The sent another one, and all was fine. Just a case of a odd problem, so don't overlook anything! Article: 331736 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg) Subject: Re: More advice on my Zenith 8A02 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:22:37 -0800 Message-ID: <7486-4422CB4D-265@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net> References: <1143127359.823263.259330@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Also make sure that the loop and pushbuttons are hooked up. Try a station/generator on the pushbutton position, and see if you get anything. Article: 331737 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg) Subject: Re: GE Console ID Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 08:27:28 -0800 Message-ID: <7488-4422CC70-13@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net> References: I don't know how to get to the binaries pictures, but I see ca in your email address. A Canadian set usually has a different model number from U.S. models. May have a different cabinet also. Article: 331738 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1143127359.823263.259330@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: More advice on my Zenith 8A02 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 11:17:58 -0600 Message-ID: <4422d970$0$32073$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1143127359.823263.259330@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... Your oscillator may not be working. Check voltage at pin 5 of 6A8 with a DMM or VTVM. If you don't get negative voltage, your oscillator isn't. If you're lucky the quick fix for that would be another 6A8. If you're not so lucky you'll have to troubleshoot the osc circuit. Let us know how your test turns out and we'll see where to take it from there. *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 331739 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Heriberto" Subject: EQUIVALENT AMERICAN RECEIVER MODEL RCA? Message-ID: <4422e20c_1@x-privat.org> Date: 23 Mar 2006 18:59:56 +0100 Hi All: I have a receivere RCA model 111 MA make in Argentina; it has 11 tubes (includes a "magic eye"), but I do not Know the equivalent american model.- Look this pictures in my web page www.lu6dbu.tk Anyone can help? Thanks in advance Heeriberto LU6DBU Article: 331740 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: EQUIVALENT AMERICAN RECEIVER MODEL RCA? Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 14:27:31 -0400 Message-ID: <1225q4mde0vpfc4@corp.supernews.com> References: <4422e20c_1@x-privat.org> Heriberto wrote: > Hi All: > I have a receivere RCA model 111 MA make in Argentina; it has 11 > tubes (includes a "magic eye"), but I do not Know the equivalent american > model.- Look this pictures in my web page www.lu6dbu.tk > Anyone can help? > Thanks in advance > > Heeriberto > LU6DBU That doesn't resemble any US model that I have seen. http://k.1asphost.com/lu6dbu/rcavictor111.jpg -Bill Article: 331741 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Heriberto" References: <4422e20c_1@x-privat.org> <1225q4mde0vpfc4@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: EQUIVALENT AMERICAN RECEIVER MODEL RCA? Message-ID: <4423205b_1@x-privat.org> Date: 23 Mar 2006 23:25:47 +0100 It can be a model of GE? some materials like loudspeakers, transforming are done in Canada, to other in U.S. Thanks and REgards Heriberto "- exray -" escribió en el mensaje news:1225q4mde0vpfc4@corp.supernews.com... > Heriberto wrote: > > Hi All: > > I have a receivere RCA model 111 MA make in Argentina; it has 11 > > tubes (includes a "magic eye"), but I do not Know the equivalent american > > model.- Look this pictures in my web page www.lu6dbu.tk > > Anyone can help? > > Thanks in advance > > > > Heeriberto > > LU6DBU > > That doesn't resemble any US model that I have seen. > http://k.1asphost.com/lu6dbu/rcavictor111.jpg > -Bill Article: 331742 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Pelham" References: <1143150451.232060.208750@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1143150655.973240.204400@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: super deal on a 12s267 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:56:50 -0500 "Eddie Brimer" wrote > still a killer deal. i have seen these go for 2000.00. > this is a much rarer model than the other 12 > tubers from 1938. I agree, a great deal. If I didn't already have one I'd be all over that Buy It Now button. John Article: 331743 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: super deal on a 12s267 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 18:42:31 -0500 Message-ID: <1226cjac47v0mfa@news.supernews.com> References: <1143150451.232060.208750@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Can anyone comment on why Zenith enclosed the entire back of the loudspeaker? I would think that this would inhibit bass response. I've seen this on other Zeniths too, of course, just never as plainly as in that photo. It almost looks sealed. regards, Frank Article: 331744 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44233A9D.5748A1DF@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Superior Tv 50 sig. gen. References: <1143154558.357616.167070@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:18:20 GMT Gene wrote: > > Need to know what the r.f. output tube is ? unable to get bama to > work for me...TIA Gene wb7ngi... It works fine on the mirror site: http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/superior/tv50 but it is a user's manual with a simplified schematic. It doesn't show the tube types. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331745 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1143082291.171099.47850@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1143149044.370682.117420@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:33:48 GMT In article <1143149044.370682.117420@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, eb062559@aol.com says... > > >IMO, mark's dials are a very good repro. i don't know how many he has >left. i might need to buy one for my 38-116 that will never be >finished because of a ruined escutcheon. john, i take it that you >aren't coming to charlotte?? if i go, it will not be as a seller this >year. not looking good for me to even get to go. weather is cool here. >i usually get my first sunburn of the year at the charlotte meet. > nope we have to pass this year on Charlotte ... still in FL ... John Article: 331746 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: super deal on a 12s267 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:49:31 -0700 Message-ID: <1149-4423421B-24@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> References: <1226cjac47v0mfa@news.supernews.com> That cover reduces bass if pushed up against the speaker . Its adjustable Article: 331747 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: super deal on a 12s267 From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1143150451.232060.208750@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1226cjac47v0mfa@news.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:36:33 GMT In article <1226cjac47v0mfa@news.supernews.com>, farside114@hotmail.com says... > > >photo. It almost looks sealed. > >regards, >Frank > > sealed when pushed IN ... and Not Sealed when pulled out... notice the small pull knob in the middle... Acoustic Adapter they call it.. John Article: 331748 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: super deal on a 12s267 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 20:00:48 -0500 Message-ID: <1226h6396m2la43@news.supernews.com> References: <1226cjac47v0mfa@news.supernews.com> <1149-4423421B-24@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net> "Ken G." wrote in message news:1149-4423421B-24@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net... > That cover reduces bass if pushed up against the speaker . Its > adjustable So you mean it's a feature, an aid in "tuning" to the room and preferences? Interesting. Thanks! Article: 331749 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: FS..B&K 200D EBAY Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 01:03:18 GMT "graham" wrote in message news:x-mdnfrHB5f9or7ZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com... > > > ... true, but curiously, it is ok to post a link to someone else's > auction ... I have an idea, Chris ... I'll post a link to your > auction and you can to mine ... mmmmm > I wonder if that is what Hagstar does ??? > Give it a rest graham. The few here that still tolerate you are losing interest fast. You do a great job of alienating people. jim menning Article: 331750 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: FS..B&K 200D EBAY Message-ID: References: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 01:08:29 GMT > >"Chris F." wrote in message >news:JFlUf.47817$VV4.757722@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... >> Watch out, there are a few people on here who do not appreciate it when someone >> posts a link to their own Ebay auction. I stopped doing that ages ago after someone >> blasted me and threatened to report me to Ebay...... > >... true, but curiously, it is ok to post a link to someone else's > auction ... I have an idea, Chris ... I'll post a link to your > auction and you can to mine ... mmmmm > I wonder if that is what Hagstar does ??? > Well actually, the operative custom here is that auction or sale posts be prefixed with "FA" or "FS" respectively, so that those who choose not to read them can set their killfilters to block them. Which is what Bob did. Personally, I don't much mind auction posts, as long as they are done respectfully, and are relevant to the subject matter of the NG. Quite often, an auction post can lead to an interesting discussion, and I might even learn something by reading it. But, you know what they say about opinions.... Gordon Richmond Article: 331751 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Shielded dual banana plug Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 17:53:47 -0800 Message-ID: <56k622h1ah2mjig8sd082ssvqgtobveid3@4ax.com> References: <1143055466.088667.107150@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <6mj4229par2iin0vc1rbf9f90r3vln7f3c@4ax.com> <1143159264.143004.170250@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 23 Mar 2006 16:14:24 -0800, "nesesu" wrote: >Thanks to all for the responses. One is on the way to me from Pete O, >but thanks for the kind offer Bill. > >By the way, Aluminum is an effective shield for both electrostatic and >higher frequency magnetic fields. At 455kHz as in an IF [or even >256kHz] the aluminum can is, indeed, quite effective. It is important >that the shield be a continuous wrapper, though, since eddy currents >make it work, so the seamless extruded can is ideal. All very true. I was just thinking of line frequency and other low frequency EM coupling. For shielding from RF, Au works fine. And, of course, now that you found one, I found four Pomonas and an H-P in my test lead kit! The H-P has a ferrous can...quite substantial. Article: 331752 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: FS..B&K 200D EBAY Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 02:10:08 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "graham" writes: >"Chris F." wrote in message >news:JFlUf.47817$VV4.757722@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... >> Watch out, there are a few people on here who do not appreciate it when someone >> posts a link to their own Ebay auction. I stopped doing that ages ago after someone >> blasted me and threatened to report me to Ebay...... >... true, but curiously, it is ok to post a link to someone else's > auction ... I'd say it depends on how interesting, from an objective viewpoint, the auction would be to the general readership. This is something that would be impossible to define in a concrete way, but I think most folks would agree that a quality item that's not seen every few months, or perhaps not even every year, would qualify. The Zenith 12S267 currently being discussed is a good example. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331753 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: FS..B&K 200D EBAY Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 03:26:11 GMT "graham" wrote in message news:kIudnUbBZsJm_77ZnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@comcast.com... > > "jim menning" wrote in message > news:qzHUf.18282$iR1.9835@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... >> >> "graham" wrote in message >> news:x-mdnfrHB5f9or7ZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> >>> >>> ... true, but curiously, it is ok to post a link to someone else's >>> auction ... I have an idea, Chris ... I'll post a link to your >>> auction and you can to mine ... mmmmm >>> I wonder if that is what Hagstar does ??? > > > > Give it a rest graham. The few here that still tolerate you are losing interest >> fast. > > ... jim, you have no idea how don't care about "the few" > especially if one desides he speaks for them ... > >>You do a great job of alienating people. > > .. tell me Jim, are my statements incorrect? > ... is there not a double standard for the "chosen dozen or so"? The double standard is that you post whatever you want to, whether it is of interest to anyone else besides you, yet you complain when others might be doing the same. > > ... be honest and straight, forward if you can... and don't give me > crap about they are: "a valued member" or "a long time contributor", etc ... > > > > Simple answer: the posts here about interesting auction items or items that may be wanted by members here are far more educational and entertaining than your whining about them. jim menning Article: 331754 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: FS..B&K 200D EBAY Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 00:19:06 -0400 Message-ID: <1226spt349dqub2@corp.supernews.com> References: graham wrote: > > > ... no, you miss the point jim, I am just pointing out that while > eBay links are frowned upon here ... as long as the 'chosen few' lists > them and as long as they are 'not mine' it seems to be ok ... we have > been through this before ... Graham, can't you discern the difference between discussing an item on ebay or using the group as a personal corkboard to slam ads in people's faces? Why do you go on about this? This same spammer, btw, had his same ad yanked on ARF because he couldn't follow simple instructions like "No Ads Permitted". It pretty obvious that he knows or cares nothing about this group other than another place to nail up an ad. Thats what its about...its not "just because its an ebay link and its not mine". Thats why it irritates people. And as your perception of "chosen few"...what the hell are you talking about? You've got a serious persecution complex, dude. -ex Article: 331755 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "t.hoehler" References: Subject: Re: Laughingidiot KT600 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 04:21:36 GMT "Omer Suleimanagich" wrote in message news:fMrUf.7431$Bj7.460@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Are they serious?! > > Of course, NOT MINE! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/LAFAYETTE-KT600-Tube-Preamp-ALL-Telefunken-Tubes_W0QQitemZ9702585735QQcategoryZ67807QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting > Part of the description - " Don't miss this great chance slip through your > fingers!" Unbelievable. Tom Article: 331756 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: FS..B&K 200D EBAY Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 04:23:52 GMT "graham" wrote in message news:DpCdnbFAQLG9877ZRVn-iw@comcast.com... > > "jim menning" wrote in message > news:nFJUf.18295$iR1.15314@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... >> >> "graham" wrote in message >> news:kIudnUbBZsJm_77ZnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@comcast.com... >>> >>> "jim menning" wrote in message >>> news:qzHUf.18282$iR1.9835@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... >>>> >>>> "graham" wrote in message >>>> news:x-mdnfrHB5f9or7ZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com... >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ... true, but curiously, it is ok to post a link to someone else's >>>>> auction ... I have an idea, Chris ... I'll post a link to your >>>>> auction and you can to mine ... mmmmm >>>>> I wonder if that is what Hagstar does ??? >>> >>> >>> > Give it a rest graham. The few here that still tolerate you are losing >>> > interest >>>> fast. >>> >>> ... jim, you have no idea how don't care about "the few" >>> especially if one desides he speaks for them ... >>> >>>>You do a great job of alienating people. >>> >>> .. tell me Jim, are my statements incorrect? >>> ... is there not a double standard for the "chosen dozen or so"? >> >> The double standard is that you post whatever you want to, whether it is of >> interest to anyone else besides you, yet you complain when others might be doing >> the same. > > ... no, you miss the point jim, I am just pointing out that while > eBay links are frowned upon here ... as long as the 'chosen few' lists > them and as long as they are 'not mine' it seems to be ok ... we have > been through this before ... You are definitely overreacting, taking things far too personal. > >>> ... be honest and straight, forward if you can... and don't give me >>> crap about they are: "a valued member" or "a long time contributor", etc ... > >> Simple answer: the posts here about interesting auction items or items that may >> be wanted by members here are far more educational and entertaining than your >> whining about them. > > ... absolutely correct ... then why is there a protocol for people, here to publish > links > to eBay ... and why are some excluded from them... just because it happens > to be theirs? ... then let's have more "interesting auction items" posted on the > group ... > > ... including 'theirs' > Your perception is focused in looking at only one side. Step back and look at it again. As I said, you are taking things far too personally. Instead of attacking those who do post on-topic auctions, often of general interest and for educational purposes and not out of greed, you should attack those who cause the problems. Specifically look at those who post off-topic auctions consistently to ruin it for the rest of us. Your griping lately hasn't helped anything. Instead you have been attacking people who post helpful information, interesting auctions of unusual items, and "heads-up" alerts to those of us who do collect certain specific items. I find your attacks on Yonny lately unwarranted, and unwelcome. jim menning Article: 331757 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: FS..B&K 200D EBAY Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 23:41:12 -0500 Message-ID: <1226u3aijgcos05@news.supernews.com> References: <1226spt349dqub2@corp.supernews.com> This reminds me of a series of ads for cheese that have been running on TV around here. Middle-aged children can't be convinced to leave home despite their parents best efforts. The tagline is always the same, "Want your kids to leave home? Stop feeding them cheese!" Enough, begone, you naughty trolls. Shoo! and it might be more fun if the rest of us would lighten up and stop feeding them... Article: 331758 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: Re: GE Console ID Message-ID: References: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 05:17:21 GMT yes I am in Vancouver Canada, John. I put the picture here: http://www.canadianvintageradio.com/images/Phil/console_cabinet/console1.gif it came as an empty cabinet and one side is missing. someone decided to make into shelving so they cut the side out. All the curved parts are there so it is saveable. this is a giant radio. 20 x 30 x 44" It does look quite similar to the 813K or 816K I got the knobs and they look GE/ RCA-ish to me. I have a chassis that comes close but not quite. http://www.canadianvintageradio.com/images/Phil/console_cabinet/chasback.jpg and http://www.canadianvintageradio.com/images/Phil/console_cabinet/chasfrt.jpg I have some speakers that will be probably work .so I will hope for the correct chassis/ escutcheon to come along, if not,, hmm maybe I could make it work with this chassis somehow? I found a realy nice article about the restoration of an 816 K ,and it was encouraging that this guy pieced his together too. http://www.hallicraftercollector.com/articles/816k_article_page_1.htm Phil Article: 331759 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FS..B&K 200D EBAY From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 06:29:10 GMT In article , grahamiba@comcast.net says... > > > > to eBay ... and why are some excluded from them... just because it happens > to be theirs? ... then let's have more "interesting auction items" posted on the >group ... > ... including 'theirs' > Graham ... I don't think your really that thick in the head that you don't understand the difference .... just in case you are that thick... I'll spell it out... R E A L S L O W for you #1... the standard FA post like many U have dumped in here.... no comments about it being something that U thought many of the members could perhaps use... or have an interest in it.... just a straight line FA: BUY MY SHIT #2.... the "Not Mine" posting.... this guy either has found something that he thinks would be really intersting to the group.... or else he has a question himself about the FA he is posting... I would think that the above is pretty clear ..... now if you quit whining... and continue to post helpful comments to people that ask... and ONCE IN A WHILE .... you post an FA here... then I doubt that anyone would complain... particularily if it was something of interest... with some comments about why you posted it... John k9uwa /w4 Snowbird Article: 331760 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: GE Console ID From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 06:37:34 GMT In article , philsvintageradiosREMOVE@shaw.ca says... > > >I found a realy nice article about the restoration of an 816 K ,and >it was encouraging that this guy pieced his together too. >http://www.hallicraftercollector.com/articles/816k_article_page_1.htm > >Phil > > Phil ... the 816k chassis center knob appear to be just a little out of line from the other 4 .... where your cabinet looks like they are all lined up... as long as that isn't a problem.... could be that it could be moved in the 816K chassis a hair .... its going to be a couple of weeks before I get home... I have an RCA 816K thats under construction ..... along with it I also have 2 spare chassis... one has power tranny gone as another person needed it... also have a spare not quite perfect escutcheon and dial etc ... once I am there I can at least make some measurements and see if the dial and the curve etc would all fit.... if so.... good chance that you might have some serous part coming your way... John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331761 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Scott Irvine Subject: Re: PayPal - use it to pay AND use it to earn! References: <1143179187.323925.263770@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:44:32 GMT linksmasta@gmail.com wrote: > Can you really make money so easily? I thought it was impossible. Just > read this. I don't even have to convince you that this is not a scam? > because it makes logical sense how you can earn money through PayPal. > A little while back, I was browsing through a newsgroup, just like you > are now and came across an article similar to this that said you could > make thousands dollars within weeks with only an initial investment of > $6.00! So I thought, "Yeah, right, this must be a scam", but like most > of us, I was curious, so I kept reading: OPRAH WINFREY and an article > published in the Wall Street Journal on 6/16/2001. here is some of it!! > > Everyone has heard about "PayPal" (if you haven't you will soon) and, > when I came across this concept I knew it would work because, as a > member of PayPal, I had already experienced their efficiency and > excellent standing. PayPal is the simplest method of making and > receiving payments online anyone has ever seen! Anyone with an email > address can join, for FREE! > > Please read further before you go there... > > You can complete this whole process in less than one hour and you will > never forget the day you decided to do so!!! Oh!, Did I say FAST? By > fast I mean the speed of the Internet-type fast.' Everything is done on > the Internet by E-mail. And, if you abide by the rules, it is NOT > considered SPAM, so it's perfectly legal! > > Anyway, it said that you send $1.00 though PayPal to each of the emails > stated in the article. You then place your own email address in the > bottom of the list at #6, and post the article in at least 200 > newsgroup. (There are thousands) No catch that was it. So after > thinking it over, and talking to few people first, I thought about > trying it. I figured what have I got to lose except $6.00, right? > Like most of us I was a little skeptical and a little worried about the > legal aspects of it : It follows the same regulations as the mailed > chain letters, which according to the U.S. Post Office (1-800- > 725-2161) is indeed legal! Then I invested the measly $6.00. Well GUESS > WHAT!!?. Within 7 days, I started getting money in my PayPal account! I > was shocked! I figured it would end soon, but the money just kept > coming in. In my first week, I made about $20.00. By the end second > week I had made a total over $1,200.00! In the third week I had over > $10,000.00 and it's still growing. This is now my fourth week and I > have made a total of just over $36,000.00 and it's still > coming in rapidly. Its : Certainly worth $6.00., I have spent more than > that on the lottery!! : Let me tell you how this works and most > importantly, why it works? Also, make sure you print a copy of this > article NOW, so you can get the information off of it as you need it. > > REQUIREMENTS: You must have a verified PayPal account. If you do not > have an account you can go to www.paypal.com and follow the > instructions to set up a free account. In order to place the initial $6 > into your account, you will have to verify your bank account with > PayPal (which may take a few days). Paypal is 100% secure and is used > my millions of people world wide. > > STEP 1: Send, though PayPal, $1.00 to each email on the below list. > Make the subject of the payment "Email List" and in the: Note field, > write "PLEASE PUT ME ON YOUR EMAIL LIST." What you are doing is > creating a service by this and best of all you are not giving your > address to anyone you do not know. THIS IS ABSOLUTELY LEGAL! > The e-mail list: > > #1) MISTACHICO88@YAHOO.COM > #2) MAHTEEN@AOL.COM > #3) AGAAJW@HOTMAIL.COM > #4) DISMAS@TELUS.NET > #5) UNICORNSOULM8@AOL.COM > #6) MIRACLEWEB@GMAIL.COM > > STEP 2: Now take the #1 email off the list that you see above, move the > other addresses up (6 becomes 5, 5 becomes 4, etc?.) and add YOUR email > address (the one used on the paypal account) as number 6 on the list. > > STEP 3: Change anything you need to, but try to keep this article as > close to original as possible. Now, post your amended article to at > least 200 newsgroups, message board. (I think there are close to 32,000 > groups) All you need is 200, but remember, the more you post, the more > money you make - as well as everyone else on the list! > > ---- DIRECTIONS----HOW TO POST TO NEWSGROUPS, MESSAGE BOARD---------- > > Step 1) You do not need to re-type this entire letter to do your own > posting. Simply put your cursor at the beginning of this letter and > drag your : Cursor to the bottom of this document, and select 'copy' > from the edit menu. This will copy the entire letter into the > computer's clipboard. > > Step 2) Open a blank 'notepad' file and place your cursor at the top of > the blank page. From the 'edit' menu select 'paste'. This will paste a > copy of the letter into notepad so that you can add your e-mail address > to the list. > > Step 3) Save your new notepad file as a .txt file. If you want to do > your postings in different sittings, you'll always have this file to go > back to. : > > Step 4) Use Netscape or Internet explorer and try searching for various > newsgroups (on-line forums, message boards, chat sites, discussions.) > Just example you log on any search engine like > yahoo.com,google.com,altavista.com,excite.com then you search with this > subject "millionaire message board" or "money making message board" or > "employment message board" or "money making discussions" or "money > making forum" or "business message board" etc. You will find thousand & > thousand message board. Click one by one then you will find the option > post a new message. : > > Step 5) Visit these message boards and post this article as a new > message by highlighting the text of this letter and selecting paste > from the edit menu. Fill in the Subject, this will be the header that > everyone sees as they scroll through the list of postings in a > particular group, click the post message button. You're done with your > first one!. Be Honest and it will truly work for you: > > Congrats! > This is one of those stupid scams that I use to get in the snail mail. Article: 331762 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: PayPal - use it to pay AND use it to earn! Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:36:25 -0400 Message-ID: <1227puaboo2j502@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143179187.323925.263770@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Scott Irvine wrote: > This is one of those stupid scams that I use to get in the snail mail. Thanks for reposting it in its entirety, my silly news server had not let it pass thru. Are you the scammer? -Bill Article: 331763 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "CLFE" References: <1143179187.323925.263770@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1227puaboo2j502@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: PayPal - use it to pay AND use it to earn! Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:56:29 -0500 Message-ID: <4423fa80$0$3701$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Another one of P.T. Barnum's referenced suckers - bites again. When will these idiots ever learn, there is no such thing as a free lunch? Article: 331764 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: GE Console ID Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:47:29 -0700 Message-ID: <5246-44240681-586@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: <7488-4422CC70-13@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net> Jim put this in your favorites news:alt.binaries.pictures.radio Article: 331765 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: super deal on a 12s267 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:07:53 -0700 Message-ID: <5246-44240B49-591@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: <1226h6396m2la43@news.supernews.com> So you mean it's a feature, an aid in "tuning" to the room and preferences? Interesting. Thanks! Buck ... I think it was a test feature , something else to interest people or something . I think it was `dumb` .. but.. i know of some people who dont like much bass so pushing that big cone thing in against the speaker cut out 3/4 off the bass . I have owned 4 or 5 of those Article: 331766 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Broadcast Engineers. (humor) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 07:21:18 -0800 Message-ID: References: On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:56:09 GMT, Jeffrey D Angus wrote: >Ok, it's old, it's been around forever, but I enjoyed it. ...and pretty close to the truth! Article: 331767 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Looking for Zenith chassis Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 08:13:05 -0700 Message-ID: <5246-44240C81-593@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: <7486-4422C49A-259@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net> Thanks Jim . Its interesting how so many of these exist , even i have run across several here in the past and no one reading 2 newsgroups have any or only one with rust . The radios are praised as beeing the lowest $ most worthless Zenith consoles . Looks like more people would have chassis in parts piles . Guess not and guess the value is not so low anymore ? Article: 331768 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Looking for Zenith chassis From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <7486-4422C49A-259@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net> <5246-44240C81-593@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <%AUUf.101784$g47.68170@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:52:27 GMT In article <5246-44240C81-593@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net>, goodguyy@webtv.net says... > > >Thanks Jim . Its interesting how so many of these exist , even i have >run across several here in the past and no one reading 2 newsgroups have >any or only one with rust . >The radios are praised as beeing the lowest $ most worthless Zenith >consoles . Looks like more people would have chassis in parts piles . >Guess not and guess the value is not so low anymore ? > Hi Ken .. when I get home in a couple weeks can look over my bone pile of Zenith chassis ... I do know that I have some of them.. just not sure if one is worth fixing up... or if I have already swiped enough parts from all of them that they are just that parts boxes.. John Article: 331769 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FS..B&K 200D EBAY From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1tCdndT6p4SDiLnZRVn-jg@comcast.com> Message-ID: <6HUUf.101823$g47.71093@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:58:58 GMT In article <1tCdndT6p4SDiLnZRVn-jg@comcast.com>, grahamiba@comcast.net says... > > > >... I'll be out of town in the mountains for a few days and away from > the computer .... will you miss me John? > > > Probably enjoy the mountains John Article: 331770 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bob Weiss Subject: Re: Where does tube base master list come from? References: <1143128205.220956.322320@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1143207882.691233.97120@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:26:28 GMT shoppa@trailing-edge.com wrote: > K3HVG wrote: > >>The ARRL handbook, et al, merely mirror the information that has come >>out of the tube industry's long-running standards for tube bases. Your >>observation of the numbering system is pretty much correct. The final >>"authority" was probably the old RETMA manufacturing consortium that set >>the then-standards for tubes and many other electronic components. > > > That seems to be the case (although it seems to be EIA, not RETMA for > this.) > > That brings me back to clarifying my original question: > > What publication has the "official master list" of EIA tube base > diagrams? > > Googling around the net brought up some websites but they tend to be > LESS comprehensive than the ARRL list. (Although there are a couple of > databases like NJ7P's which have the wonderful feature of being able to > get a lit of all tubes with a given base, and there was one German > website that offered a similar feature although in a more graphical > (and maybe less useful!) form.) > > I think it's possible that the number-only bases in the ARRL tables > might not be EIA. > > Tim. > The coordinating body for tube basing diagrams was JEDEC (Joint Electron Device Engineering Council). I have a copy of their "Publication 2B--Basing Diagrams for Electron Tubes", which covers basing assignments >from "1A" to "21A", dated Sept. 1958. 46 pages worth of base drawings, and a listing of which types used each base. Updated by Lud Sibley in 2000, to include some additional background info. The referenced standard for these diagrams is given as "EIA RS-206". Bob Weiss N2IXK Article: 331771 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Scott Irvine Subject: Re: PayPal - use it to pay AND use it to earn! References: <1143179187.323925.263770@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1227puaboo2j502@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 17:01:05 GMT - exray - wrote: > Scott Irvine wrote: > >> This is one of those stupid scams that I use to get in the snail mail. > > > Thanks for reposting it in its entirety, my silly news server had not > let it pass thru. Are you the scammer? > > -Bill I'm not the scammer Article: 331772 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: PayPal - use it to pay AND use it to earn! Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:26:49 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1143179187.323925.263770@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1227puaboo2j502@corp.supernews.com> <4423fa80$0$3701$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> In "gkb" writes: >"CLFE" wrote in message >news:4423fa80$0$3701$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net... >> Another one of P.T. Barnum's referenced suckers - bites again. When will >> these idiots ever learn, there is no such thing as a free lunch? >I had lunch this noon, it was free. Me too! Friday's pizza day here. From Two Boots, which is kinda spicy. So maybe I'll wind up paying for it after all. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331773 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4424560E.9A71B7D0@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Broadcast Engineers. (humor) References: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:26:57 GMT Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > Ok, it's old, it's been around forever, but I enjoyed it. > > God and Broadcast Engineers > > When the earth was created, > The powers above gave each man a job to work and love. > He made doctors and lawyers and plumbers and then, > He made carpenters, singers and confidence men. > And when each had a job to work as he should, > He looked them all over and saw it was good. > And then He did sit down to rest for a day, > When a horrible groan chanced to come His way. > The Lord then looked down, and His eyes opened wide, > For a motley collection of bums stood outside. > "Oh, what can they want?" the Creator asked then. > When "Help us," they cried out, "a job for us men." > "We have no profession," they cried in dismay, > "And even the jails have turned us away." > Said the Lord, "I've seen many things without any worth, > But here I find gathered the scum of the earth!" > The Lord was perplexed - then He was mad! > For all of the jobs, there was none to be had! > Then He spoke aloud in a deep, angry tone, > "Forever and ever ye mongrels shall roam... > You shall freeze in the summer and sweat when it's cold, > You shall work on equipment that's dirty and old. > You shall open rat-filled trenches, and the cables lay, > You shall be called out at midnight and work through the day. > You shall work on holidays, but not make your worth, > You shall be blamed for all downtime that occurs on the earth. > You shall watch all the glory go to production, news and sales, > You shall be blamed by them all if the system fails. > You shall be paid nothing out of sorrow and tears, > You shall be forever cursed, and called BROADCAST ENGINEERS!! Gee Jeff, you left out: You shall be forever seeking parts that have not been made for 20 years or more. You shall be forever cursing the last bum, he who took all the manuals when he was fired. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331774 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44245678.A4E3F692@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: PayPal - use it to pay AND use it to earn! References: <1143179187.323925.263770@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1227puaboo2j502@corp.supernews.com> <4423fa80$0$3701$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:28:43 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > > In "gkb" writes: > > >"CLFE" wrote in message > >news:4423fa80$0$3701$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net... > >> Another one of P.T. Barnum's referenced suckers - bites again. When will > >> these idiots ever learn, there is no such thing as a free lunch? > > >I had lunch this noon, it was free. > > Me too! Friday's pizza day here. > > From Two Boots, which is kinda spicy. So maybe I'll wind up paying > for it after all. Yeah, like the last free lunch at Microdyne, a couple days before they started laying off everyone to close the plant. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331775 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Broadcast Engineers. (humor) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:44:41 -0800 Message-ID: References: <4424560E.9A71B7D0@earthlink.net> On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:26:57 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >You shall be forever seeking parts that have not been made for 20 years >or more. >You shall be forever cursing the last bum, he who took all the manuals >when he was fired. ...and, years ago: You shall be forever beating your head against a wall trying to explain an xmtr problem to a Collins employee who doesn't know what one is. Been there...done that! Article: 331776 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: PayPal - use it to pay AND use it to earn! Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 12:50:20 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1143179187.323925.263770@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1227puaboo2j502@corp.supernews.com> <4423fa80$0$3701$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <44245678.A4E3F692@earthlink.net> On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:28:43 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >Yeah, like the last free lunch at Microdyne, a couple days before >they started laying off everyone to close the plant. ...and Varian...and Satellite Transmission Systems...and Raydyne...and Harris...and AT&T...and Lockheed...and Lucent...and Hewlett-Packard (thanks, Carly...ya slut)...and on and on. WTF does these idiots think...that buying someone a $2 meal from Bahhhstun Mahhhket is somehow going to make up for permanent damage to someone's life due to their own mismanagement? I say shoot 'em...AFTER you eat the lunch, of course. Article: 331777 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: PayPal - use it to pay AND use it to earn! Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:46:37 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1143179187.323925.263770@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1227puaboo2j502@corp.supernews.com> <4423fa80$0$3701$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <44245678.A4E3F692@earthlink.net> In DeserTBoB writes: >WTF does these idiots think...that buying someone a $2 meal from >Bahhhstun Mahhhket is somehow going to make up for permanent damage to >someone's life due to their own mismanagement? I say shoot >'em...AFTER you eat the lunch, of course. On the flip side, free lunch is nothing for a well-run company in a profitable market. One of the Google boys was quoted as saying no way were they doing away with the food perks. He said what they spend on food isn't even a rounding error in the expense report. Kudos to sensible management! Food here is mostly to keep the clients happy, but the kitchen's open to all. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331778 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: Dial Printing Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:01:47 +0100 Message-ID: <661237316cf7f65925dbb222616c94ff@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: To duplicate, it's relatively easy to scan into PHOTOSHOP, clean up the printing and damage and print on transparency sheets. The problem is trying to get a translucent finish. Possibly cement to a translucent backing plate? What type of adhesive ? ***There's a whole bunch of matte finish transparent labels at places like Staples or Office Depot. Great idea! I might be able repair some wiped-off areas on non-replaceable dials! -Pete O. Article: 331779 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: PayPal - use it to pay AND use it to earn! Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:01:30 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1143179187.323925.263770@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1227puaboo2j502@corp.supernews.com> <4423fa80$0$3701$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <44245678.A4E3F692@earthlink.net> On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:46:37 +0000 (UTC), Tim Mullen wrote: > On the flip side, free lunch is nothing for a well-run company >in a profitable market. One of the Google boys was quoted as >saying no way were they doing away with the food perks. He said >what they spend on food isn't even a rounding error in the >expense report. Kudos to sensible management! Some like, some hate (.i.e. "Google Groups'" pox upon Usenet) what Google does as far as product goes, but one cannot poke holes in Googles' labor relations maxims at all...they're happy folks, indeed. I remember when the Bell System kept everyone happy. Then, a consent decree pulled the rug out from under a protected monopoly, but it was OK...we were all family of sorts, and we were going to make it WORK. Well, sure..until management started getting shitty with their people, started making stupid decisions, and took out the losses on the work force instead of cleaning house at HQ...then, the "trust" was broken. By the end of the '80s, no one gave a crap about what happened anymore. Waste was rampant. The biggest idiot of all at AT&T wasn't C. Michael Armstrong (although he rates a close second...it was Bob Allen, possibly the dumbest Fortune 100 CEO I've ever seen and heard. Now, AT&T doesn't even exist anymore, eaten alive by one of its former wholly-owned subsidiaries, and one of the best managed of the former Bell Operating Companies for over 70 years, Southwestern Bell Telephone...or, as they preferred to be called until a few weeks ago, "SBC." Article: 331780 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Laughingidiot KT600 Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 14:05:56 -0800 Message-ID: <85r822tdlm1r9k79oet3e4nhngvubkuv6f@4ax.com> References: On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 15:10:42 -0600, "philo" wrote: >>> http://cgi.ebay.com/LAFAYETTE-KT600-Tube-Preamp-ALL-Telefunken-Tubes_W0QQitemZ9702585735QQcategoryZ67807QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting >>> Part of the description - " Don't miss this great chance slip through >>> your fingers!" Unbelievable. >> Tom OMG! Surely, he CAN'T be serious.... I remember these..a failed attempt to counter the Dynakits and Heathkits of the era, and almostt the most bug plagued design I've ever had the displeasure of trying to debug. The #1 honor in that catagory went to a Heath AR-15, THE worst of 'em all. Fix the bad solder on the preamp board...the MPX would drop phase lock...and on and on and on. Made a great door stop, though! Article: 331781 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Dial Printing Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:16:10 -0400 Message-ID: <1228rtgdua5prdf@corp.supernews.com> References: <661237316cf7f65925dbb222616c94ff@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Pete_O wrote: > To duplicate, it's relatively easy to scan into PHOTOSHOP, clean up the > printing and damage and print on transparency sheets. The problem is > trying to get a translucent finish. Possibly cement to a translucent > backing plate? What type of adhesive ? > > ***There's a whole bunch of matte finish transparent labels at places like > Staples or Office Depot. > > Great idea! I might be able repair some wiped-off areas on > non-replaceable dials! -Pete O. > AES used to sell the beige translucent plastic stock but that may no longer be available. I've done dials with plain photo paper and the translucency isn't very far off once backlit by the dial lamps. -Bill Article: 331782 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Carter, K8VT" Subject: Re: Broadcast Engineers. (humor) References: <4424560E.9A71B7D0@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 23:13:43 GMT Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Ok, it's old, it's been around forever, but I enjoyed it. > > God and Broadcast Engineers Been there, done that... :-) and Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Gee Jeff, you left out: > > You shall be forever seeking parts that have not been made for 20 > years or more. Chief engineer of a Detroit FMer, 1964. It's 6 PM on a Saturday. Doorknob coupling capacitor in the transmitter blew. The parts stores are all closed. My dad has a TV repair shop at home in the basement. Found just the doorknob I needed on a 1949 Philco flyback in his collection of parts. Back on the air by 9:30... Article: 331783 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: PayPal - use it to pay AND use it to earn! Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 23:28:04 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1143179187.323925.263770@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1227puaboo2j502@corp.supernews.com> <4423fa80$0$3701$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <44245678.A4E3F692@earthlink.net> In DeserTBoB writes: >Well, sure..until management started getting shitty with their people, >started making stupid decisions, and took out the losses on the work >force instead of cleaning house at HQ...then, the "trust" was broken. I swear, industries just seem to implode after several decades. I know this is a cynical viewpoint, but sometimes it seems the only way to avoid this is to keep hopping to the next frontier. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331784 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Broadcast Engineers. (humor) Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 08:45:44 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:dMTUf.9460$WK1.6342@tornado.socal.rr.com... > Ok, it's old, it's been around forever, but I enjoyed it. > > God and Broadcast Engineers > > > When the earth was created, > The powers above gave each man a job to work and love. > He made doctors and lawyers and plumbers and then, > He made carpenters, singers and confidence men. > And when each had a job to work as he should, > He looked them all over and saw it was good. > And then He did sit down to rest for a day, > When a horrible groan chanced to come His way. > The Lord then looked down, and His eyes opened wide, > For a motley collection of bums stood outside. > "Oh, what can they want?" the Creator asked then. > When "Help us," they cried out, "a job for us men." > "We have no profession," they cried in dismay, > "And even the jails have turned us away." > Said the Lord, "I've seen many things without any worth, > But here I find gathered the scum of the earth!" > The Lord was perplexed - then He was mad! > For all of the jobs, there was none to be had! > Then He spoke aloud in a deep, angry tone, > "Forever and ever ye mongrels shall roam... > You shall freeze in the summer and sweat when it's cold, > You shall work on equipment that's dirty and old. > You shall open rat-filled trenches, and the cables lay, > You shall be called out at midnight and work through the day. > You shall work on holidays, but not make your worth, > You shall be blamed for all downtime that occurs on the earth. > You shall watch all the glory go to production, news and sales, > You shall be blamed by them all if the system fails. > You shall be paid nothing out of sorrow and tears, > You shall be forever cursed, and called BROADCAST ENGINEERS!! > You shall be cursed with Icky-Pic all the days of your life. You shall receive RF burns while working on the ground radials at a 50KW AM site. You shall watch in awe as the extension cord you just spread out to run your drill at the same site draws a 1/4" arc as you plug it in. You shall curse the remanufacturer when you install a rebuilt 4CX10000 and the plate supply goes up in flames. Article: 331785 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: PayPal - use it to pay AND use it to earn! Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:01:12 -0400 Message-ID: <122922am97o72e1@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143179187.323925.263770@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1227puaboo2j502@corp.supernews.com> <4423fa80$0$3701$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <44245678.A4E3F692@earthlink.net> Tim Mullen wrote: > In DeserTBoB writes: > > >>Well, sure..until management started getting shitty with their people, >>started making stupid decisions, and took out the losses on the work >>force instead of cleaning house at HQ...then, the "trust" was broken. > > > I swear, industries just seem to implode after several decades. > I know this is a cynical viewpoint, but sometimes it seems the only > way to avoid this is to keep hopping to the next frontier. > Its like the human body...the fat accumulates and the whole system comes tumbling down. Detroit is getting the picture - finally. The mega-WE/AT&T/Bell outfit got legislated into fitness and now they are coming back. And even though the likes of Google appear to be trim and mean at the moment, their largesse will take them down as well. The general public is, by nature, "anti-big", Who loves their cable company or utility company or gas station or even Wal-Mart for that matter? We resent the fat cats charging us at the checkout when we hear the boss is making 700-zillion in salary and perks. Not that his making $5/hr would really reduce prices but still...its an attitude thing. The nice thing about the capitalist system is that it is ultimately self-regulating...maybe not at the immediate moment but it all comes out in the wash. -Bill Article: 331786 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: PayPal - use it to pay AND use it to earn! Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 00:28:30 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1143179187.323925.263770@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1227puaboo2j502@corp.supernews.com> <4423fa80$0$3701$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <44245678.A4E3F692@earthlink.net> <122922am97o72e1@corp.supernews.com> In <122922am97o72e1@corp.supernews.com> - exray - writes: >The general public is, by nature, "anti-big", Who loves their cable >company or utility company or gas station or even Wal-Mart for that >matter? We resent the fat cats charging us at the checkout when we hear >the boss is making 700-zillion in salary and perks. Not that his making >$5/hr would really reduce prices but still...its an attitude thing. Sometimes yes, sometimes no, and in weird ways. Look at the entertainment industry -- music, sports, movies. The bigger, the badder, the better. I always tell sports fans that instead of backing a team of losers who will still be hauling home seven figures no matter how they perform, they oughta be rooting for the poor schlub next door who makes bad pizza. He NEEDS your loyalty. :) >The nice thing about the capitalist system is that it is ultimately >self-regulating...maybe not at the immediate moment but it all comes out >in the wash. Yeah, I've always liked balanced systems. No matter how much it might seem the pendulum has swung too far, sooner or later it'll go in the other direction, probably too far again. That's life. At least it doesn't get stuck at one end. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331787 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Broadcast Engineers. (humor) Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 16:53:51 -0800 Message-ID: References: On Sat, 25 Mar 2006 08:45:44 +0900, "Brenda Ann" wrote: >You shall curse the remanufacturer when you install a rebuilt 4CX10000 and >the plate supply goes up in flames. Hmmmm...sounds ODDLY like Richardson! Article: 331788 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: PayPal - use it to pay AND use it to earn! Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:59:51 -0400 Message-ID: <12295ga7s1o0j75@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143179187.323925.263770@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1227puaboo2j502@corp.supernews.com> <4423fa80$0$3701$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <44245678.A4E3F692@earthlink.net> <122922am97o72e1@corp.supernews.com> Tim Mullen wrote: > > > Sometimes yes, sometimes no, and in weird ways. Look at the > entertainment industry -- music, sports, movies. The bigger, the > badder, the better. I always tell sports fans that instead of > backing a team of losers who will still be hauling home seven > figures no matter how they perform, they oughta be rooting for the > poor schlub next door who makes bad pizza. He NEEDS your loyalty. :) You're right, ya know, and thats an interesting observation. Power company goes up a fraction of a cent per kwh and people scream bloody murder while standing in line to buy $125 tickets to see Boogie-Boo-Daddy J. There's probably something in there that makes us more conscious of our "utility money" versus our "mad money". Cell phone contracts are a good example. Free this and that but if you exceed the deal they'll whack you with 45 cents a minute for even using the battery charger. Time will come as the competition narrows where people instead of saying "what a great deal I got on my new cell" will be saying "those robbing bastards". -ex Article: 331789 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Looking for Zenith chassis Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:35:31 -0700 Message-ID: <14082-44249E63-636@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: <%AUUf.101784$g47.68170@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Thanks John ! Article: 331790 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Refinishing question Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 18:33:57 -0700 Message-ID: <14082-44249E05-635@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: <1143243717.141085.270900@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> You want to go to the antique radio forum and ask Denis daly . he has done them Article: 331791 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Check this out...Nice one Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 02:26:11 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1143247595.214945.301690@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> In <1143247595.214945.301690@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Dave" writes: >http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-Antique-Wood-Air-King-Tube-Radio-Tuning-Eye_W0QQitemZ6615288520QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Are those knobs right? They look ungainly, like maybe a bullet-shape would've been a better choice, original or not. Otherwise... oh, mommy! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331792 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <4422247C.2040205@shaw.ca> <4424AD7F.3020605@shaw.ca> Subject: Re: John's selling his Walton again. Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 02:42:47 GMT "Dean Chesterman" wrote in message news:4424AD7F.3020605@shaw.ca... > > No, Just Skip! > > Dean Chesterman > That'll do it every time. ;o) jim menning Article: 331793 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1143247595.214945.301690@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1143254330.226723.194790@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Check this out...Nice one Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 02:46:33 GMT "Dave" wrote in message news:1143254330.226723.194790@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... > > Never noticed that before. Does anyone know if they are the original > knobs? They don't look original. Does anyone know the model number as > well? > You know Dave, it's really posts like this that make me question your motives. This is not the first time you've asked specific questions that are clearly displayed at the link you first posted to. Description: Here is Air King's Top of the Line set from 1937. The 'Windham' Model 725. jim menning Article: 331794 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1143247595.214945.301690@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <4424ad22$0$9258$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net> <1143254652.225603.148380@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Check this out...Nice one Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 02:48:43 GMT "Dave" wrote in message news:1143254652.225603.148380@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > That would be a good discussion to talk about the electrical hazards > with antique equipment > Covered many times in the archives. jim menning Article: 331795 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DS Subject: OT: easy method to test a millivolt meter? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:14:59 -0600 Hi all, Please forgive to OT subject, but I know you guys and gals are some of the most knowledgable people in electronics and will be the most reliable source. Okay, enough sucking up, on with the nitty gritty... I have a DC Millivolt meter built by Sears. It was intended for use by their service technicians to test thermocouples amd powerpiles. It has a Simpson movement with 3 scales (0-50, 0-500, 0-1000). Each scale has a respective lead and there is a common lead for all scales. That's all there is to it, 4 wires with alligator clips and a meter in a nice little box. I need to know how to test this meter for operation and accuracy. I have a Simpson 260 and enough knowledge to burn something up if I'm not careful. If you could help me out I would appreciate it. TIA David S.