Article: 331796 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Dial Printing Message-ID: References: <661237316cf7f65925dbb222616c94ff@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <1228rtgdua5prdf@corp.supernews.com> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 03:46:58 GMT >Pete_O wrote: >> To duplicate, it's relatively easy to scan into PHOTOSHOP, clean up the >> printing and damage and print on transparency sheets. The problem is >> trying to get a translucent finish. Possibly cement to a translucent >> backing plate? What type of adhesive ? >> >> ***There's a whole bunch of matte finish transparent labels at places like >> Staples or Office Depot. >> >> Great idea! I might be able repair some wiped-off areas on >> non-replaceable dials! -Pete O. >> >AES used to sell the beige translucent plastic stock but that may no >longer be available. I've done dials with plain photo paper and the >translucency isn't very far off once backlit by the dial lamps. > >-Bill I used to use a product called StanPat Film to put printed legends, etc. onto maps. It can be printed upon by a photocopier or laser printer (never tried inkjet, but it might work). I then would cut out a piece of the film and stick it on the map. It is self-adhesive. Being translucent, and with a matte finish, the film itself never appeared in the diazo copies made of the original map. You could try an art supply or drafting supply store for this product. Gordon Richmond Article: 331797 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Silvertone R-301 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 03:54:35 GMT There is one of these showed up on eBay. (not mine). It's a 10-tuber, pretty conventional, other than it uses direct-coupled 6P5/6AC5 pairs in a push-pull output stage. Has an eye tube. Are they a good set, or just so-so? The set is in Portland, OR, and I plan to be there in 2 weeks, so I could pick it up easily enough. Appears to be complete, but the console cabinet needs refinishing. Is it worth my while? Gordon Richmond Article: 331798 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg) Subject: Re: GE Console ID Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 20:23:12 -0800 Message-ID: <7486-4424C5B0-571@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net> References: <1143213297.870236.98600@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Thank to Ken G, he sent me a link to the binaries. It appears to be a Canadian GE perhaps model F137? The cabinet is differerent from the U.S. model RCA 813K. The model F167 is shown in the Stein console book, and the grill bars are vertical on that model also, where as U.S. models have horizontal bars. Article: 331799 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: OT: easy method to test a millivolt meter? Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:36:35 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:14:59 -0600, DS wrote: > Hi all, > > Please forgive to OT subject, but I know you guys and gals are some of > the most knowledgable people in electronics and will be the most > reliable source. Okay, enough sucking up, on with the nitty gritty... > > I have a DC Millivolt meter built by Sears. It was intended for use by > their service technicians to test thermocouples amd powerpiles. It has > a Simpson movement with 3 scales (0-50, 0-500, 0-1000). Each scale has > a respective lead and there is a common lead for all scales. That's all > there is to it, 4 wires with alligator clips and a meter in a nice > little box. > > I need to know how to test this meter for operation and accuracy. I > have a Simpson 260 and enough knowledge to burn something up if I'm not > careful. > > If you could help me out I would appreciate it. TIA > > David S. Make a voltage divider out of two accurate resistors. Set the ratio so that the output can be read by your millivolt meter while the input is read by your standard meter. Use an adjustable power supply to drive the input. If you don't remember right off, you calculate the output of a voltage divider like this: Vout = Vin X Rbot / (Rtop + Rbot). Rtop is the resistor from the power supply to the meter you are testing and Rbot is the resistor across the meter. The resistance of the divider has to be much lower than the resistance of the meter you are testing. This means that if your meter is 1000 ohms / volt, the resistor you use for the bottom of the divider has to be less than 0.5 ohms for the 50mV scale. Difficult, but perhaps not as hard as finding a 50mV standard meter. Some 260s have a millivolt range. Mine, a series 5, has a 250mV range which isn't marked on the range switch. It is the same as the 50uA range. Consult the instruction manual. Using this range, you could probably dispense with the low value precision resistors and just measure the output of the divider with both meters connected AT THE SAME TIME. Then the divider only serves to reduce the output of your power supply to a usable level. If you have a DVM, there is a good chance that it has a 200mV range. Accuracy depends on the accuracy of the standard meter you use and, in the first method, on the accuracy of the resistors in the voltage divider. Good luck, -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 331800 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1143179187.323925.263770@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: PayPal - use it to pay AND use it to earn! Message-ID: <895Vf.1759$TV1.1295@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 06:10:12 GMT Wow! I haven't seen one of these in years. Guess they figure nobody remembers it by now and a fresh set of suckers is available. Only new frill is using PayPal instead of snail mail. Ray wrote in message news:1143179187.323925.263770@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Can you really make money so easily? I thought it was impossible. Just > read this. I don't even have to convince you that this is not a scam? > because it makes logical sense how you can earn money through PayPal. Article: 331801 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <410a22d26o011j4g1amhkdd2kjp01ttmuk@4ax.com> Subject: Re: m-m-Emmerson? Message-ID: <329Vf.30126$ty4.26919@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:35:43 GMT "Gordon Richmond" wrote in message news:410a22d26o011j4g1amhkdd2kjp01ttmuk@4ax.com... > Found this gem on eBay tonight. It never ceases to amaze me how some folks just > don't have > a clue. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Emmerson-Radio-888-Vanguard_W0QQitemZ6616835199QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > Worth it for a laugh, at any rate. > > Gordon Richmond "Looks like the dial was made for tuning in to about eight stations." A clear case of someone who has grown up in a digital age. ;o) jim menning Article: 331802 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Check this out...Nice one From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1143247595.214945.301690@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 12:54:53 GMT In article , tim@panix.com says... > > > Are those knobs right? They look ungainly, like maybe a bullet-shape >would've been a better choice, original or not. Otherwise... oh, mommy! > >-- > Tim Mullen knobs look to me to be new wooden knobs identical to the ones Mark Oppat sells... This seller is apparently also a snowbird... I notice this auction says location is PA .. his previous auctions were from Ft Myers, FL Always has his cabinets in the wet look... the guy that asked the other day about getting that finish on his German radio should consult this seller!... John k9uwa/w4 snowbird Article: 331803 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: PayPal - use it to pay AND use it to earn! From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1143179187.323925.263770@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <895Vf.1759$TV1.1295@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:14:12 GMT In article <895Vf.1759$TV1.1295@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>, rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com says... > > >Wow! I haven't seen one of these in years. > >Guess they figure nobody remembers it by now and a fresh set of suckers is >available. > >Only new frill is using PayPal instead of snail mail. > >Ray Yeah ... same deal... when U got one of these you changed all the names on it to all your buddies in all 5 or 6 positions and sent out a zillion copies... thought that these were illegal chain letters or something like that! John Article: 331804 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Check this out...Nice one From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1143247595.214945.301690@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:08:33 GMT In article , k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF says... > > >I notice this auction >says location is PA .. his previous auctions were from Ft Myers, FL > >John k9uwa/w4 snowbird > > my error was thinking of the other guy that makes the all look wet. John Article: 331805 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <442554F1.6B89A5A@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: PayPal - use it to pay AND use it to earn! References: <1143179187.323925.263770@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <895Vf.1759$TV1.1295@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 14:34:31 GMT "John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird" wrote: > > In article <895Vf.1759$TV1.1295@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>, > rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com says... > > > > > >Wow! I haven't seen one of these in years. > > > >Guess they figure nobody remembers it by now and a fresh set of suckers is > >available. > > > >Only new frill is using PayPal instead of snail mail. > > > >Ray > > Yeah ... same deal... when U got one of these you changed all the > names on it to all your buddies in all 5 or 6 positions and sent > out a zillion copies... thought that these were illegal chain letters > or something like that! > John It is illegal, and it is called a "Ponzi Scheme", or "Pyramid Scheme" I have reported hundreds of these to their ISP, and to uce@ftc.gov -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331806 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Heriberto" References: <1143236537.089642.4430@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Giving away a philcoradios@gmail.com account Message-ID: <442555b1_1@x-privat.org> Date: 25 Mar 2006 15:37:46 +0100 Hi Dave: I like Philco antique radios. I have a 41-755 model, so will like change information on this theme REgards Heriberto LU6DBU Please Excus me my bad English "Dave Henning" escribió en el mensaje news:1143236537.089642.4430@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > I am giving away a philcoradios@gmail.com email account so if you like > Philcos and you want it just email vintagephilcos@googlemail.com and I > will get back to you with the password and security question. It's > already got subscribtions to this and the > rec.radios.amateur.boatanchors groups in the free Google groups > Article: 331807 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sal Brisindi Subject: For Sale 1954 RCA Model 21-T-373 Television Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 10:45:42 -0500 Hi Folks, Sorry for the for sale ad but I have a 1954 RCA TV in a beautiful cabinet for sale. Your price? Best offer, I was asking $100.00 with no takers. No reasonable offers refused. The TV is not restored. Pictures at http://www.tuberadios.com/rcatv/ Email me if you are interested. Thanks, Sal Brisindi Article: 331808 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <121qvo0m2h56pf5@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Another Cheap High End Zenith- Long Island, NY Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:09:40 -0500 11S474.. Nice radio and a great player. The dial bezel gives it a cheap 1940s look. I wish it was a 1938 with a 12 tube shutterdial chassis!! I found mine at an estate sale about 15 years ago, along with several other radios. The original owner had kept it in the living room, and it looked like it just walked off the dealer's floor. They took exceptionally good care of it, even though it hadn't worked for years. I think I paid $225 for it, which was steep at the time. The fine original condition is what cinched the deal for me. Pete Article: 331809 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <121u98ma1h9uda3@corp.supernews.com> <1142907842.875611.144790@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Great expectations Message-ID: <8YdVf.3067$FD4.263@dukeread07> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:10:43 -0500 "Terry S" wrote in message news:1142907842.875611.144790@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > I emailed the seller. I asked if he meant $9.99. His response: > > No. I actually set the price at $999.00 just to see what kind of > response I would get. With other people auctioning crazy things at high > prices and with $0.10 listing day, I thought I would give it a try. > > So there you go. > > Terry > Well the guy is honest, I give him credit for that. Pete Article: 331810 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "radionutz" Subject: book wanted/trade Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 16:11:31 GMT HI I recently got a copy of Alan Douglas book, "RADIO MANUFACTURERS OF THE 1920s VOL 3. now I would like to get vols.. 1 & 2, Does anyone have such an animal that they would like to sell or I have 2 copies of ANTIQUE RADIO COLLECTORS GUIDE SIXTH EDITION that I would like to trade for one of Alans vol 1 or 2. If interested e-mail me at: dmign at earthlink dot net and let me know. DON -- Check out my web site at: www.home.earthlink.net/~dmign/index.htm Article: 331811 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: book wanted/trade Message-ID: <31eVf.3069$FD4.147@dukeread07> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:15:58 -0500 "radionutz" wrote in message news:TYdVf.10072$k75.8251@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > HI > I recently got a copy of Alan Douglas book, "RADIO MANUFACTURERS OF THE > 1920s VOL 3. now I would like to get vols.. 1 & 2, > Does anyone have such an animal that they would like to sell or I have 2 > copies of ANTIQUE RADIO COLLECTORS GUIDE SIXTH EDITION that I would like to > trade for one of Alans vol 1 or 2. A volume II was just sold for an obscene price on eBay, over $200 IIRC. Alan mentioned something about the publisher considering to do a new reprinting on some of the volumes. Drop him a line. Pete Article: 331812 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <17vu12pg8mnl8s616vkr7fq325c1os7ar7@4ax.com> <1vh022dgt3fvumq7bi0iema8reqc13im6b@4ax.com> <1142980245.443344.166260@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Walton speaker wanted Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:18:50 -0500 I was under the impression the owner wanted the exact speaker; or would a reasonable substitute do it if it looked correct? Next question would be if it is a 7, 9 or 12 tube chassis. A correct 12-tube Walton speaker would have to come from another 12-tube Walton. Pete Article: 331813 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: OT: easy method to test a millivolt meter? Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 08:26:37 -0800 Message-ID: References: On Fri, 24 Mar 2006 21:36:35 -0700, Jim Mueller wrote: >Make a voltage divider out of two accurate resistors. Set the ratio so >that the output can be read by your millivolt meter while the input is >read by your standard meter. Use an adjustable power supply to drive the >input. If you don't remember right off, you calculate the output of a >voltage divider like this: Vout = Vin X Rbot / (Rtop + Rbot). Rtop is >the resistor from the power supply to the meter you are testing and Rbot >is the resistor across the meter. The problem in this day and age by doing this is finding properly accurate resistances with the needed neutral heat coefficient. >The resistance of the divider has to be much lower than the resistance of >the meter you are testing. This means that if your meter is 1000 ohms / >volt, the resistor you use for the bottom of the divider has to be less >than 0.5 ohms for the 50mV scale. Difficult, but perhaps not as hard as >finding a 50mV standard meter. Amen to that, although my Weston Model 1 still is as accurate as the day it was made in 1938. A ghastly power hog, however. >Some 260s have a millivolt range. Mine, a series 5, has a 250mV range >which isn't marked on the range switch. It is the same as the 50uA >range. Consult the instruction manual. Using this range, you could >probably dispense with the low value precision resistors and just measure >the output of the divider with both meters connected AT THE SAME TIME. >Then the divider only serves to reduce the output of your power supply to >a usable level. If you have a DVM, there is a good chance that it has a >200mV range. The accuracy of a good DVM would be an order or magnitude better than the older Weston in question, and thus a parallel standard comparison is probably a lot easier. It's tough to find reference standard quality precision resistances these days...or I'm looking in all the wrong places! Another problem with using the precision divider method is that the accuracy of the calibration still rests on the reference meter. With the access to fairly cheap but quite accurate DVMs these days, it seems it might be more accurate to go the latter route. I have the same 260 as you, and it is amazingly accurate when subjected to standard bench cal tests. Whether it's a "factory freak" or not, I haven't a clue, but it is far more accurate than published specs on all ranges. Another one that, for reasons unknown to Fluke, holds a calibration and is cal bench accurate every time: an ancient Fluke 8008. Between the two, I can get secondary standard measurements every time. Every other VOM, DVM or other common test gear for amplitude I've owned has been garbage by comparison. Even a similar 260 shows considerable errors in comparison. I gave up pondering how this could be, and just use them! dB Article: 331814 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nospam" Subject: Radiola 60 Sewing box Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:55:36 GMT I was passing through Mansfield , MO recently and since I'm a history/antique nut I decided to stop by Laura Ingalls Wilder's last residence. I took the $8 tour and saw that they had a 1928 Radiola 60 on the floor in the study. The lady giving the tour said it was an old battery radio. I corrected her. She said it stopped working in the 40's so the Wilders took the chassis out and discarded it and Laura used the cabinet for a sewing box. It's a shame, because I have a spare chassis/power supply for my Radiola 60, too bad the sewing box one couldn't be restored. Article: 331815 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nospam" Subject: Bill Turner? Message-ID: <8ygVf.49009$oL.38050@attbi_s71> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 19:07:48 GMT Does anyone know if Bill Turner still makes replacement dial covers? Thanks, DJ Article: 331816 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: OT: easy method to test a millivolt meter? Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 11:19:05 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1143304542.085034.150930@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 25 Mar 2006 08:35:42 -0800, "Hand of Doom" wrote: >I highly suggest NOT listening to DeserTBob- he gave some advice over >on the 8-track group, and it ruined all the guy's tapes ! Just >research the"ommadawn" question there- too funny ! Oh joy, here he is again...Charlie Nudo, the nutcase. Article: 331817 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Bill Turner? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <8ygVf.49009$oL.38050@attbi_s71> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:15:34 GMT In article <8ygVf.49009$oL.38050@attbi_s71>, nospam@insightbb.com says... > > >Does anyone know if Bill Turner still makes replacement dial covers? >Thanks, >DJ > > Sorry Bill can't do them any longer... try John Bachman john at anatek mv com put dotts in between anatek and mv and tween that and com John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331818 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Al Z." References: <31eVf.3069$FD4.147@dukeread07> <1143316502.910352.127620@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: book wanted/trade Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:45:56 -0500 Message-ID: <4425ad7e$0$20689$6d36acad@titian.nntpserver.com> They are great books, but if some one offered me $315 for my volume 2, I'd throw in 1 & 2 and ship them all for free! "Dan Olson" wrote in message news:1143316502.910352.127620@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Vol. 1 is available thru any book seller I.E. Amazon. A Vol 2 just > went for 315.00 on Ebay. They seem to be rare or printed in limited > numbers. Dan > *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 331819 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: finish repair -Electrohome PU1-4516 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:51:19 -0500 This week I got an Electrohome I've been after for a while, and the finish is a bit tired, especially around the knobs. There's also a patch on the top where perhaps a plant lived for a while, resulting in some of the toned finish coat (lacquer?) cracking off. Pictures posted on the binaries. I'm loath to even consider a strip and re-finish, since in general, it's in pretty reasonable shape for its age. I'm tempted to just wax it with plain old Johnson's Paste floor wax and be done with it. Or is it is possible to "re-flow" a finish like this and coat the bare spots? Thanks for your advice, Frank Article: 331820 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." References: <1226spt349dqub2@corp.supernews.com> <1226u3aijgcos05@news.supernews.com> Subject: Re: FS..B&K 200D EBAY Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 00:11:07 GMT > This reminds me of a series of ads for cheese that have been running on TV > around here. Middle-aged children can't be convinced to leave home > despite their parents best efforts. The tagline is always the same, "Want > your kids to leave home? Stop feeding them cheese!" So what part of Canada are you from? BTW the exact wording is "Stop cooking with cheese". IMO, the Air Farce parodies of these commercials (and the "cheese lady" herself) are far more amusing than the actual commercials. Yeah I know, I need a TV with commercial skip...... Article: 331821 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ron H" Subject: Schematic needed please! Message-ID: <%RlVf.596$rI1.221@newsfe15.lga> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 19:10:16 -0600 Sorry if this is a little off topic but it's awful close!!! I desperately need a scan of the schematic for a B&K Model 970 Transistor Equipment Analyst. My chassis # is 17-01309. I'll pay big bucks ( well maybe not too big) so I can get this thing working. I tried tracing out the circuit but it is full of flying splices and what appear to be loops of wire that double back on themselves... No it's not on BAMA. Any help will be appreciated! K3PID Ron H. Article: 331822 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" References: <%RlVf.596$rI1.221@newsfe15.lga> Subject: Re: Schematic needed please! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 17:18:37 -0800 Try URL: http://www.bkmanuals.com/601-1000.htm -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "Ron H" wrote in message news:%RlVf.596$rI1.221@newsfe15.lga... > Sorry if this is a little off topic but it's awful close!!! I desperately > need a scan of the schematic for a B&K Model 970 Transistor Equipment > Analyst. My chassis # is 17-01309. I'll pay big bucks ( well maybe not > too > big) so I can get this thing working. I tried tracing out the circuit but > it is full of flying splices and what appear to be loops of wire that > double > back on themselves... > > No it's not on BAMA. > > Any help will be appreciated! > > K3PID > Ron H. > > > Article: 331823 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nospam" References: Subject: Re: Emerson Snow White Original? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 01:22:52 GMT Priced too steep for my wallet!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/1937-EMERSON-TUBE-RADIO-SNOW-WHITE-THE-SEVEN-DWARFS_W0QQitemZ6615454830QQcategoryZ38034QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:fIOdnXieKNLLebjZRVn-og@giganews.com... > URL? > > Phil > > Article: 331824 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: lampbay Subject: FA: Sony STR-V55 FM Stereo Hi-Fi Receiver Tuner VG Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:15:43 -0600 Message-ID: FA: Sony STR-V55 FM Stereo Hi-Fi Receiver Tuner VG http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9703931622 FA: Sony *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 331825 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" References: Subject: Re: For Sale 1954 RCA Model 21-T-373 Television Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 18:20:42 -0800 Message-ID: <4425fa7b$0$58054$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Wish you were closer....I'd take it. Steve Article: 331826 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Bill Turner? Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:14:42 -0600 Message-ID: <15720-4425F912-692@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: I STILL SUPPLY THE GLASS FROM 2" TO 8 7/8" IN 1/16TH INCREMENTS. I CURENTLY SUPPLY THE PLASTIC FOR THE PLASTIC ONES AT 6/$5.00. I WILL SHORTLY BE SELLING 6 1/4" FIVE PLY PLYWOOD TO MAKE THE MOUNDS AND THE BASE PLATE ALONG WITH THE PLASTIC AND A COMPLETE SET OF INSTRUCTIONS AS TO HOW TO MAKE THEM FOR A PRICE IN THE AREA OF $18.00 CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 331827 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: Emerson Snow White Original? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 02:30:08 GMT The BM type chassis was used in several other models, including the Catalin BM-258. The model number in the eBay auction has a suspicious looking "rust spot" obscuring the last two digits, but you can just barely make out the 5. My guess is that the chassis came from a busted Catalin set . This would make sense as the seller is a Catalin dealer. It is one of the two correct chassis they put in that cabinet (to the best of my knowledge), so it's right in one respect, but wrong in another. If this was a vintage Corvette, the wrong number would lower the value. In this case, it's hard to say with certainty that the factory didn't put a wrongly marked chassis in the cabinet. My guess is that one or both of the knobs are reproductions. The cloth looks old, but I don't recall ever seeing that type of cloth in an Emerson. The cabinet looks right in some respects-particularly the way the top and bottom and side pieces are joined together. I think there should be glue blocks where the top meets the sides, and there are none. And look closely at the picture showing the left side, at the bottom front corner. The finish on the Repwood panel shows a lot of wear, but the corner of the cabinet right next to it is very clean, sharp and rectangular. That is very suspicious. In the areas where the finish has flaked off the Repwood, the color of the underlying material looks too light, but that might just be because of overexposure in the photos (they were taken with flash). If you look at the back view, just to the left of the very top of the shielded tube, you can see a bit of the inner surface of the Repwood panel. These often had a mottled appearance, and this one looks right. So, the Repwood front might be real, but I believe the rest of the cabinet is new. The knobs are probably repros, and the chassis is an orphan from another radio, and the seller says it's "all original". And, why would any seller want to hide his feedback? That's a red flag for me! -- Mike Schultz "Tom Adkins" wrote in message news:iNGdndcB_-DXbLjZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Phil Nelson wrote: > I notice that in the seller's chassis view, the number following the BM2 > part is blurred or scratched out. > > > I enlarged the pic slightly in Paint. The smudge looks like the photo has > been tampered with. Notice the hole for the antenna wire is also blurred > out. Hmmmm...... Article: 331828 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: Emerson Snow White Original? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 02:33:24 GMT Another clue: There should be holes in the back edges of the cabinet where the original cardboard back was screwed down. There are none. -- Mike Schultz "Mike Schultz" wrote in message news:Q0nVf.2287$f21.1634@trnddc01... > The BM type chassis was used in several other models, including the > Catalin BM-258. The model number in the eBay auction has a suspicious > looking "rust spot" obscuring the last two digits, but you can just barely > make out the 5. My guess is that the chassis came from a busted Catalin > set . This would make sense as the seller is a Catalin dealer. It is one > of the two correct chassis they put in that cabinet (to the best of my > knowledge), so it's right in one respect, but wrong in another. If this > was a vintage Corvette, the wrong number would lower the value. In this > case, it's hard to say with certainty that the factory didn't put a > wrongly marked chassis in the cabinet. > > My guess is that one or both of the knobs are reproductions. The cloth > looks old, but I don't recall ever seeing that type of cloth in an > Emerson. > > The cabinet looks right in some respects-particularly the way the top and > bottom and side pieces are joined together. I think there should be glue > blocks where the top meets the sides, and there are none. > > And look closely at the picture showing the left side, at the bottom front > corner. The finish on the Repwood panel shows a lot of wear, but the > corner of the cabinet right next to it is very clean, sharp and > rectangular. That is very suspicious. In the areas where the finish has > flaked off the Repwood, the color of the underlying material looks too > light, but that might just be because of overexposure in the photos (they > were taken with flash). > > If you look at the back view, just to the left of the very top of the > shielded tube, you can see a bit of the inner surface of the Repwood > panel. These often had a mottled appearance, and this one looks right. > > So, the Repwood front might be real, but I believe the rest of the cabinet > is new. The knobs are probably repros, and the chassis is an orphan from > another radio, and the seller says it's "all original". > > And, why would any seller want to hide his feedback? That's a red flag > for me! > > -- > Mike Schultz > > > "Tom Adkins" wrote in message > news:iNGdndcB_-DXbLjZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Phil Nelson wrote: >> I notice that in the seller's chassis view, the number following the BM2 >> part is blurred or scratched out. >> >> >> I enlarged the pic slightly in Paint. The smudge looks like the photo >> has been tampered with. Notice the hole for the antenna wire is also >> blurred out. Hmmmm...... > > Article: 331829 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: lampbay Subject: FA: Sony TC-K77R Stereo Cassette Recorder Player VG Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 20:33:41 -0600 Message-ID: FA: Sony TC-K77R Stereo Cassette Recorder Player VG http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9703951604 *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 331830 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <1gfUf.10023$w86.9204@tornado.socal.rr.com> Subject: Re: Filters do work well... Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 03:52:21 GMT Hi! > It must be a major cat fight that I'm missing. On average, over > the past day or so, I see upwards of 40-50 message per day go > into the bit bucket. Hmmm. I think I'd check your filter to make sure it works. (Assuming that you get this message.) I'm hardly a regular on the group, but I haven't seen anything "out of the ordinary". William Article: 331831 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <0rt122toblsbm1207nkvbdk5lfebc7t4ea@4ax.com> Subject: Re: for those who may collect calculators, FA: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 04:02:39 GMT Hi! I didn't realize there were calculator collectors on this group. (And not being a regular, I didn't think I should ask.) > Victor, like so many other > US companies, was steamrollered in the '70s by "Japan, Inc.," never to > be heard from again. Really? While I'm sure they don't build the calculators any longer, Victor (or someone using the name at least) is still around. I also have a fairly big Victor adding machine from the late 70s-early 80s that claims to have been made in Japan and sold by Victor Comptometer (sp?) of Texas. It uses a VFD for its display and looks to have been made by Sharp. I used to use it, but as of late the display has gone bonkers. I have an Eldorado Electrodata Director Two (now that's an impressive name!) on my desk at work. It just keeps on running, and has already outlived several new Victor-branded printing calculators. I especially like how the display doesn't blank when it is calculating. http://greyghost.dyndns.org/director2/ Anybody know what happened to Eldorado Electrodata? William Article: 331832 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "sherry Ridenour" Subject: moldy tube tester Message-ID: <9roVf.10299$k75.3874@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 04:06:29 GMT I've got a Precision 612 tube tester that smells very moldy. I cleaned the cabinet once but apparently not well enough because it now smells bad again. No obvious mold spots on the cabinet but a few parts and some wires looks like they have it. Any suggestions on how to clean it? Chuck Ridenour Article: 331833 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1143345159.367392.123280@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Some nice radios at this auction Message-ID: Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:15:34 -0500 "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1143345159.367392.123280@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > 10 tube Zenith tombstone, battery Walton, and others. Isn't 18% buyers > premium kind of high? > **bay #Item number: 6615741222, 6615742266 > and others. > I'd love to own that 10S130! There are some premium sets in that collection. Pete Article: 331834 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <410a22d26o011j4g1amhkdd2kjp01ttmuk@4ax.com> <329Vf.30126$ty4.26919@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <0oeb22ll5qcs1vjd21vujmjpel84523f90@4ax.com> Subject: Re: m-m-Emmerson? Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 23:42:16 -0500 Message-ID: <44261b9c$0$7328$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Sounds like a comment I've made in my battery auctions...... :-) On a side note--how long ago did they stop making mercury batteries? > And batteries that haven't been made in over 60 years! Wow! > > > > > Joe Bento, N6DGY > Pleasant Grove, Utah > > jwbento_at_comcast_dot_net Article: 331835 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Some nice radios at this auction Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 00:42:40 -0700 Message-ID: <14082-442645F0-983@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: Pete bid away . the 130 is about as rare as a cat with 2 heads . i am going to watch this one to see where it ends . Article: 331836 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <9roVf.10299$k75.3874@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: moldy tube tester Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:53:58 GMT Sunlight and Lysol spray? Ray "sherry Ridenour" wrote in message news:9roVf.10299$k75.3874@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > I've got a Precision 612 tube tester that smells very moldy. I cleaned the > cabinet once but apparently not well enough because it now smells bad > again. No obvious mold spots on the cabinet but a few parts and some wires > looks like they have it. Any suggestions on how to clean it? > > Chuck Ridenour > Article: 331837 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Re: Bill Turner? Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 07:49:16 -0500 Message-ID: References: <15720-4425F912-692@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1143340537.208541.165330@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 25 Mar 2006 18:35:37 -0800, "Dan Olson" wrote: >Making dial covers takes a certain talent that I haven't acquired yet. >I bought the plastic material at a hobby shop. I assume modelers use >this to make airplane cockpits. I bought the 1/4 hardboard , traced out >the dial cover on it, made the center plug put it in the oven at 250 or >so. The plastic picked up imperfections from the hard board used the smooth side> the gap between the inner and outer edge of the >mold is hard to get just right so that there is a good "fold over". I >give up maybe Bill would share his techniques with the group. I guess >he is as his previous post states. Dan Yes, there is certainly a technique to it. I have been working away on developing a vacuum forming machine/oven and proper techniques and have finally achieved some success and will be shipping my first order this week. After that are the ones that Ken G. sent me. Then I will update my web page with the specific models for which I have molds. I can make any from a sketch and description. Use the existing web page for ordering for now. I will try to get it updated this week, along with finishing my first order, doing Ken's, umpiring two baseball scrimmages, starting my garden seeds, pruning trees for the neighbors and whatever projects the wife comes up with. Oh yeah, the RCA 5T8 that I listen to every day just croaked, the power transformer again. Wonder why that has happened twice? Don't let anyone tell that it is easy to get a near-perfect reproduction. It is not but I have it down now. John Bachman www.anatekcorp.com/dialcovers.htm Article: 331838 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Terry" Subject: OT Time travel? de-ja-vu Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:12:37 -0330 Re Peter's posting above: "Are we there yet?" Article: 331839 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: moldy tube tester Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:04:39 -0400 Message-ID: <122d4b8f6iaja9f@corp.supernews.com> References: <9roVf.10299$k75.3874@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Rune wrote: > Sunlight and Lysol spray? > > Ray I'll second that. Thats exactly what I was going to suggest! -Bill Article: 331840 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Bill Turner? Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 07:19:26 -0600 Message-ID: <13892-442694DE-753@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <1143340537.208541.165330@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I SUGGEST THAT USING HARDBOARD IS A SERIOUS ERROR. IT IS TOO SOFT TO USE AS A MOLD. THE PLASTIC SOLD BY HOBBY STORES IS ALSO NOT THE RIGHT TYPE TO USE FOR DIALCOVERS. IT IS TOO SOFT. THE STATEMENT THAT A VACUUM FRAME IS NEEDED IS ALSO INCORRECT. MANY HAVE TRIED TO MAKE DIALCOVERS, FEW HAVE BEEN SUCESSFUL. MY BACKGROUND OF MORE THAN 6000 DIALCOVERS INCLUDES MANY FAILURES IN THE EARLY STAGES. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 331841 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Bill Turner? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <15720-4425F912-692@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1143340537.208541.165330@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:01:36 GMT In article , johnREMOVE@anatek.REMOVEmv.com says... > > >the RCA 5T8 that I listen to every day just croaked, the >power transformer again. Wonder why that has happened twice? > > >John Bachman Gradual breakdown of the insulation in the transformer due to excessive heat... from putting 125 volts on a transformer that was designed for 105 to 110 volts .... John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331842 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: moldy tube tester Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:17:11 -0800 Message-ID: References: <9roVf.10299$k75.3874@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 04:06:29 GMT, "sherry Ridenour" wrote: >I've got a Precision 612 tube tester that smells very moldy. I cleaned the >cabinet once but apparently not well enough because it now smells bad again. >No obvious mold spots on the cabinet but a few parts and some wires looks >like they have it. Any suggestions on how to clean it? I had a Collins 75-A1 similarly affected. A spray of 20% household chlorine solution took out the mold permanently. A later application of 50% ammonia took out all the nicotine encrustation. Dry in sunlight or in over. Keep all such aqueous solutions out of the IF cans and the transformers, of course. After recapping and an alignment, the old Collins came back to life like new. dB Article: 331843 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: What is best lubricant for phono motors Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 06:19:53 -0800 Message-ID: References: On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 07:49:05 -0500, "David" wrote: >I seem to notice when I start a record player, it takes some time before it >is running at the correct speed. (It starts slow.) The motor is the common >AC type with steps for the different speeds. >I have tried different light oils such as 3 in one. What I notice is when >the motor is off for a while the shaft can be spun and takes a second or two >to stop. After it has run for several minutes and is warm, the shaft can be >spun and takes stays spinning a lot longer. >I suspect it is due to the lubrication. When cold it is not as "slick" as >when it is warm. >Any thoughts? Carbonization and/or dirt in the bearings. Remove the motor, clean the bearing sleeves with a suitable solvent, such as mineral spirits or isopropynol. They're probably Oilite bearings, so they'll probably need to be soaked. Then, soak them in light amber machine oil, usually found in vast quantities in hardware stores or appliance supply houses in the plastic "zoom spout" packagin. Do not use 3-in-1...it's garbage. Reassemble...problem solved. Article: 331844 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <14082-442645F0-983@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Some nice radios at this auction Message-ID: <%yxVf.4541$FD4.3056@dukeread07> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:29:11 -0500 "Ken G." wrote in message news:14082-442645F0-983@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net... > Pete bid away . the 130 is about as rare as a cat with 2 heads . i am > going to watch this one to see where it ends . > I'm watching to0. I already have the 9S30, and I just don't have the room for another big tombstone right now. It's tempting, but after looking at all of the early bids I don't want to get drawn into that bidding war! Pete Article: 331845 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Bill Turner? Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:06:32 -0400 Message-ID: <122dbg3amu1c7cc@corp.supernews.com> References: <15720-4425F912-692@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1143340537.208541.165330@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird wrote: > In article , > johnREMOVE@anatek.REMOVEmv.com says... > >> >>the RCA 5T8 that I listen to every day just croaked, the >>power transformer again. Wonder why that has happened twice? >> >> >>John Bachman > > > > Gradual breakdown of the insulation in the transformer due to > excessive heat... from putting 125 volts on a transformer that > was designed for 105 to 110 volts .... > > John k9uwa /w4 > Or sometimes just plain bad luck. I've now gone thru two transformers in my Midwest 16-tuber. I've had the incoming AC dropped down to ~105 and have been running it with two of the 6F6s pulled. Current draw checks out fine and its been running with a 1-1/4 A fast blow fuse with never a nuisance blowing. Daily usage. Yeppers, bad luck. Looks like Heyboer is gonna make some large money off of me unless someone has one of these xfmrs laying around they'd like to part with. -Bill Article: 331846 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." References: <9roVf.10299$k75.3874@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: moldy tube tester Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:26:23 GMT Could be worse. I've got a nice vintage oscilloscope (ca. 1939) that stinks of skunk - I've had the thing for about 5 years now and it still doesn't smell any better. I tried dousing it in an alcohol-based solvent once and drying in the sunlight, but it didn't help. Doesn't matter though I think I'll be parting the thing out soon since I don't have room for it, and I'll leave the cleanup to its next owner. I don't know the thing got stunk up like that, the odor seems to be coming >from inside the unit so maybe it's something else. I've never encountered anything like it before though. "sherry Ridenour" wrote in message news:9roVf.10299$k75.3874@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > I've got a Precision 612 tube tester that smells very moldy. I cleaned the > cabinet once but apparently not well enough because it now smells bad > again. No obvious mold spots on the cabinet but a few parts and some wires > looks like they have it. Any suggestions on how to clean it? > > Chuck Ridenour > Article: 331847 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: moldy tube tester Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 07:43:09 -0800 Message-ID: <2hdd2218ck659q4k9o81rcueo035q3lrk5@4ax.com> References: <9roVf.10299$k75.3874@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:26:23 GMT, "Chris F." wrote: >Could be worse. I've got a nice vintage oscilloscope (ca. 1939) that stinks >of skunk - I've had the thing for about 5 years now and it still doesn't >smell any better. How and why an o-scope would get squirted by a skunk it beyond comprehension, but the only common thing that'll cut that smell is tomato juice...believe it or not. It very well could be that there's a potting material or a lacquer or something used in the manufacturing of this boatanchor that' giving off the odor...and I'd be concerned about that. A lot of stuff used in old electronics manufacture is highly carcinogenic. Sounds like an old DuMont. Article: 331848 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "radionutz" References: Subject: Re: book wanted/trade Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:51:11 GMT OUCH!! Looks like I stepped into a hornets nest. I think that I will see if I can find a way to get in touch with Alan to see if he might consider going into another printing of 1 and 2 DON "Steve J" wrote in message news:duvb22leilieds2dr4pmdt7d0k05mogn63@4ax.com... > $315 for just volume two. Here's the eBay Item number: 6609648789 > > There were several bidders. > I put my hardcover set in the safe. I'm just going to use the > softcovers now. Vol. 3 is easy to find. Vol. 1 costs a little more and > vol.2, well let's just say I'm glad I already have my copy. Article: 331849 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1142968403.079856.11460@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Looking for a Panasonic Ranger 505 TV Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:55:30 GMT wrote in message news:1142968403.079856.11460@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I know this is not a TV forum, but figured it couldnt hurt. Looking > for an old B&W Panasonic Ranger TV. Please email me if you have one > for sale. jshima at timing dot com > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9700996522 Article: 331850 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4426BA26.374B3892@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: What is best lubricant for phono motors References: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:59:01 GMT David wrote: > > I seem to notice when I start a record player, it takes some time before it > is running at the correct speed. (It starts slow.) The motor is the common > AC type with steps for the different speeds. > I have tried different light oils such as 3 in one. What I notice is when > the motor is off for a while the shaft can be spun and takes a second or two > to stop. After it has run for several minutes and is warm, the shaft can be > spun and takes stays spinning a lot longer. > I suspect it is due to the lubrication. When cold it is not as "slick" as > when it is warm. > Any thoughts? I soak the bearings in solvent to remove all of the old lube, then soak them in a thin oil before reassembling the motor. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331851 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: OT Time travel? de-ja-vu Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:43:49 -0500 "Terry" wrote in message news:r0wVf.35$m35.2400@news20.bellglobal.com... > Re Peter's posting above: > > "Are we there yet?" > > Been there, done that. We're back. Article: 331852 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: What is best lubricant for phono motors References: <4426BA26.374B3892@earthlink.net> <1143392265.635767.289450@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:10:55 GMT Nothing wrong with that, it's call making sure they are repeat customers. wink wink. Jeff frenchy wrote: > All I know is it ISN'T grease, which is what I put on them when I > worked at radio/tv repair shop as a pseudo apprentice during college > for about a year. Figured out eventually it will sieze up, duhhh. I > feel sorry for anybody that got their record player back from me. This > explains why I ended up being a computer programmer : \ > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331853 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <4426BA26.374B3892@earthlink.net> <1143392265.635767.289450@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: What is best lubricant for phono motors Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:22:38 -0500 "frenchy" wrote in message news:1143392265.635767.289450@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > All I know is it ISN'T grease, which is what I put on them when I > worked at radio/tv repair shop as a pseudo apprentice during college > for about a year. Figured out eventually it will sieze up, duhhh. I > feel sorry for anybody that got their record player back from me. This > explains why I ended up being a computer programmer : \ > You're the guy who wrote Windows!!!!! Article: 331854 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: What is best lubricant for phono motors Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 09:48:23 -0800 Message-ID: References: <4426BA26.374B3892@earthlink.net> <1143392265.635767.289450@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 12:22:38 -0500, " Uncle Peter" wrote: > >"frenchy" wrote in message >news:1143392265.635767.289450@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... >> All I know is it ISN'T grease, which is what I put on them when I >> worked at radio/tv repair shop as a pseudo apprentice during college >> for about a year. Figured out eventually it will sieze up, duhhh. I >> feel sorry for anybody that got their record player back from me. This >> explains why I ended up being a computer programmer : \ >> > >You're the guy who wrote Windows!!!!! Considering most Microshaft code writers would probably have trouble writing an efficient batch file, you're probably right! Article: 331855 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Skycloud" Subject: Lager Barrel Radio Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:13:22 +0100 Message-ID: <48o3unFl5pgnU1@individual.net> Hi, Has any one any information on who made this unusual set? It's called a 'Old Lager' radio that looks like a beer barrel about 10 ins long and 8ins diam. Would look great on a pub or bar counter. Inside (that is when I could work out how to get inside!) it looks like a simple TRF, about 1934? 6D6, 6C6, 43, 25Z5. Looks Philco-ish to my inexperienced British eyes... I'd like to get sufficient data so I can look up the data at Nostalgair if possible. Many thanks in advance for any help you can provide. Steve www.radiocraft.co.uk www.copycoder.com www.detinnitiser.com www.405-line.tv Article: 331856 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: What is best lubricant for phono motors Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:16:09 -0700 Message-ID: <420-4426DA69-241@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: Sometimes its not the oil . All the cleaning suggestions are good ones . I have found myself into jukeboxes and you may be suprized they used small phono motors in some of the 50`s machines . I have been at this long enough to have tried about anything . The final cure for some of them was to ad one ball bearing in the bottom of the lower bushing for the bottom of the armature to rest on . A small hole needs to be drilled in the bottom cup to get the bearing to fit and stay centered . 2 slow start jukeboxes got cured for good after many trys at cleaning & different oils . One of the jukes still sits in my COLD garage 3/4 unrestored with this motor treatment .. i fired it up friday for kicks after sitting for months ( the juke not me ) and it was dead on speed wise . I use ordinary 10W motor oil . Article: 331857 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: What is best lubricant for phono motors Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 10:44:33 -0800 Message-ID: <00od22h2s9ddvadqorl43nmtt10g3mg9c4@4ax.com> References: <420-4426DA69-241@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:16:09 -0700, goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) wrote: >i fired it up friday for kicks >after sitting for months ( the juke not me ) and it was dead on speed >wise . I use ordinary 10W motor oil . The problem with "gummy" motor bearings in small open frame motors like that (and larger ones, like fan motors) is usually traced to a bad mix of lubricants over time. Machine oil refined from mineral oil base stock, while motor oil is either paraffin or asphaltum based. "Oilite" bearings (the porous bronze ones that are supposedly "lubed for life") were/are originally soaked in mineral based oil to fill in all the reservoir voids in the bearing sleeve. All well and good, but when it comes time to replenish the oil, the worst thing one can do is use motor oil. Combined mineral and paraffin based oils leads to a nasty problem called "carbonization," where the liquid oils chemically react and you get a black, gooey, somewhat abrasive mess. The only cure here is to disassemble the motor, soak the bearings clean, soak with mineral based machine oil, and reinstall. The tip-off? You disassemble the motor, and you have the stated black, gooey mess in the bearing sleeves. Article: 331858 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: AC line drop resistor Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 11:32:49 -0700 Message-ID: <422-4426DE51-14@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> What was the proper ohms for this ? my 10 tube Zenith gets to hot Article: 331859 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <422-4426DE51-14@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: AC line drop resistor Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:52:30 -0500 Hello Ken How many volts would you like to drop? How many amps does the radio draw? For example, if the set draws 1.2 amps, and you want a 15 volt drop, you'd need about 12 ohms. Resistance is equal to Voltage divided by Current. For the wattage, multiply the current by the voltage, 1.2 times 15 equals 18 watts. So figure any resistor between 10 and 20 ohms at around 25 watts will be a good starting point to experiment with. The aluminum body resistors with the mounting tabs are good for this. Pete "Ken G." wrote in message news:422-4426DE51-14@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net... > What was the proper ohms for this ? my 10 tube Zenith gets to hot > Article: 331860 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <48o3unFl5pgnU1@individual.net> Subject: Re: Lager Barrel Radio Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:15:50 GMT "Skycloud" wrote in message news:48o3unFl5pgnU1@individual.net... > > Hi, > > Has any one any information on who made this unusual set? It's called a 'Old > Lager' radio that looks like a beer barrel about 10 ins long and 8ins diam. Would > look great on a pub or bar counter. > > Inside (that is when I could work out how to get inside!) it looks like a simple > TRF, about 1934? 6D6, 6C6, 43, 25Z5. Looks Philco-ish to my inexperienced British > eyes... > > I'd like to get sufficient data so I can look up the data at Nostalgair if > possible. > > Many thanks in advance for any help you can provide. > Would that be similar to the "Radio Keg" made by R.K.Radio Laboratories that can be found pictured here? http://images.google.com/images?q=radio+keg&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images I think there may be two versions of the chassis, a 4-tube and a 5-tube. 4-tube: http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/959/M0015959.pdf 5-tube: http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/973/M0015973.pdf jim menning Article: 331861 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Skycloud" Subject: Re: Lager Barrel Radio Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:45:13 +0100 Message-ID: <48o9b1Fl7p7gU1@individual.net> References: <48o3unFl5pgnU1@individual.net> -- "jim menning" wrote in message news:GLBVf.25138$iR1.15815@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > >> > > Would that be similar to the "Radio Keg" made by R.K.Radio Laboratories > that can be found pictured here? > > http://images.google.com/images?q=radio+keg&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images > Wow... it's one of them... yes ! So it's called a 'keg' eh? > > I think there may be two versions of the chassis, a 4-tube and a 5-tube. > > 4-tube: > > http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/959/M0015959.pdf > This is it ! Problem solved. Many thanks, Jim. Steve Article: 331862 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" Subject: Riders manuals for sale Message-ID: <6cCVf.87325$no3.15746@tornado.southeast.rr.com> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:46:10 GMT Before I put them on eBay. I have 5 volumes of Riders manuals for sale, 7, 8, 9, 10 & 11. They are all in very good condition. The price is $15 each plus postage. They will be sent via media mail if possible. I prefer payment using PayPal. If interested send my your zip code and I will work out the total including postage. Ron Article: 331863 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <422-4426DE51-14@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: AC line drop resistor Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:24:55 -0500 "Ken G." wrote in message news:422-4426DE51-14@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net... > What was the proper ohms for this ? my 10 tube Zenith gets to hot If you want to lower the AC voltage, best would be to use a bucking transformer. A 12 VAC 1A in series is best. No heat, can be either put in a small metal box or as I do with all my consoles, hide the transformer besides the chassis. Syl Article: 331864 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <422-4426DE51-14@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: AC line drop resistor Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:05:12 GMT Ken G. wrote in message news:422-4426DE51-14@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net... > What was the proper ohms for this ? my 10 tube Zenith gets to hot > I think I would look to see WHY it gets too hot first. Most likely a bad cap that's going to burn up the power transformer if not fixed. It's better to do that before trying to Band-Aid the problem. Ron Article: 331865 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: AC line drop resistor Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:00:00 -0700 Message-ID: <421-4426F2C0-65@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: Thanks Pete .. I dont know the amp draw ( you know me ) I have some of those gold aluminum resistors and will check for 10 - 20 ohm one and give that a test run . The power transformer gets to hot you know Zeniths stupid tiny transformer idea ! but i dont think they planned for 125 vac Article: 331866 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Barry" References: <9roVf.10299$k75.3874@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: moldy tube tester Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:29:18 -0600 Message-ID: <19732$4426f95e$18d649b3$11423@KNOLOGY.NET> > >I've got a Precision 612 tube tester that smells very moldy. I cleaned the > >cabinet once but apparently not well enough because it now smells bad again. > >No obvious mold spots on the cabinet but a few parts and some wires looks > >like they have it. Any suggestions on how to clean it? > > I had a Collins 75-A1 similarly affected. A spray of 20% household > chlorine solution took out the mold permanently. A later application > of 50% ammonia took out all the nicotine encrustation. Dry in > sunlight or in over. Keep all such aqueous solutions out of the IF > cans and the transformers, of course. After recapping and an > alignment, the old Collins came back to life like new. > > dB Doesn't chlorine attack aluminum causing it to eventually corrode? Barry - N4BUQ Article: 331867 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <421-4426F2C0-65@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: AC line drop resistor Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:32:24 -0500 "Ken G." wrote in message news:421-4426F2C0-65@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net... > Thanks Pete .. I dont know the amp draw ( you know me ) I have some of > those gold aluminum resistors and will check for 10 - 20 ohm one and > give that a test run . > > The power transformer gets to hot you know Zeniths stupid tiny > transformer idea ! but i dont think they planned for 125 vac > Hi Ken Well, those values will get you in the range, and it's easy to quickly wire one in and test it. 1 amp is a good starting guesstimate for most larger tombstones. You'll need to heatsink those resistors to the chassis, and as Syl noted you'll be making some heat! Peter Article: 331868 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <422-4426DE51-14@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: AC line drop resistor Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 15:34:39 -0500 " Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:YtCVf.87326$no3.2435@tornado.southeast.rr.com... > Ken G. wrote in message > news:422-4426DE51-14@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net... > > What was the proper ohms for this ? my 10 tube Zenith gets to hot > > > > I think I would look to see WHY it gets too hot first. > Most likely a bad cap that's going to burn up the power > transformer if not fixed. > It's better to do that before trying to Band-Aid the problem. > > Ron > > Ron Many Zenith sets have a problem with marginally rated power transformers. Recapping is a must as you noted. John Gollier has also mentioned using dropping resistors in the past to help those transformers run cooler. Hopefully no one is reading these suggestions as an alternative to doing what you suggested as a first step. Pete Article: 331869 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: moldy tube tester From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <9roVf.10299$k75.3874@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> <2hdd2218ck659q4k9o81rcueo035q3lrk5@4ax.com> Message-ID: <04DVf.79753$_c.62108@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:45:48 GMT In article , philo@privacy.net says... > > > >a good lesson... >never stick electrodes into a skunk!!! wonder what sort of pattern the skunk produced on the O-Scope screen? John k9uwa Article: 331870 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: moldy tube tester Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:12:20 -0800 Message-ID: References: <9roVf.10299$k75.3874@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> <19732$4426f95e$18d649b3$11423@KNOLOGY.NET> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:29:18 -0600, "Barry" wrote: >Doesn't chlorine attack aluminum causing it to eventually corrode? Use the chlorine only on moldy areas and rise well after the mold is dead. Yes, if unrinsed and a dry residue is left, both chorline AND ammonia will corrode an aluminum chassis, IF cans, etc. I rinse well after this kind of cleaning, and that old 75-A1 still is devoid of any corrosion and still works like a champ. Replacing the 6AK5 front end tube with a WECO 403B helped with the S/N on the front end a bit, too, even though they're electrically the same tube.. dB Article: 331871 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: m-m-Emmerson? Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:45:26 +0900 Message-ID: References: <410a22d26o011j4g1amhkdd2kjp01ttmuk@4ax.com> <329Vf.30126$ty4.26919@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <0oeb22ll5qcs1vjd21vujmjpel84523f90@4ax.com> <1143395672.114864.211650@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> "frenchy" wrote in message news:1143395672.114864.211650@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... >I thought this would just take regular AA batteries, I had an 888 (like > his one in upper left of auction photos) and it took them. > There are so many things wrong in his description.. just pick one.. :) Article: 331872 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:00:03 -0800 Message-ID: <193e22lbiodl9l0kqi4ctqi0917nc8g2f8@4ax.com> References: <1143407937.165438.38960@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> On 26 Mar 2006 13:18:57 -0800, swingst1@juno.com wrote: >Hi, > >I've been hearing a lot about HD AM radio. Here in the Boston area, on >the AM dial there are now three places with the "hash" sound of HD AM. > >Question : Will we still be able to use the tube radios we so lovingly >restore back to life in the years to come? Until dual sideband AM goes away, yes...with degradation in transmitted signal quality. Once analog goes away, you'll have an impressive paperweight. >If we succumb to HD AM will I be able to DX at night? Does it work like >AM does now. Not likely as well. "HD-AM" is a misnomer; it's really a QPSK digital carrier, similar to all digital transmission...none of it is "AM," period. It only occupies the same spectrum as old AM does/did. Digital carriers do not "travel" as well as AM did, meaning their effectiveness as compromised signal-to-noise ratios is less than dual sideband AM, vestigal sideband TV and, to a lesser extent, broadcast FM. In short, the public gets screwed....again. >There are many radio stations hundreds of miles away I listen to on a >regular basis (providing the Ionosphere is cooperative) Not for too much longer! > >I really love listenting to radio on my restored ...Stromberg1101 ..and > my Zenith G723 ..and my Motorola 52H just to name a few. > > >Am I doomed?? Eventually, yes. AM broadcasting is going the way of FDM carrier telephony and satellite links, FM terrestrial microwave radio and FM broadcast radio, for that matter. The real reason for this is NOT any improvement that the user may get, but to force the user to pay bucks for what they get now for free, à la "satrad." The same goes for "HD-TV"...it's all about money, and being able to cram more carriers into the same amount of bandwidth. > >If anyone has any info it would be greatly appreciated! > >Thanks!! Happy listening. For now, anyway. I predict (although my name isn't Griswold or whomever) that the last bastion of amplitude modulation in the world will be long wave ham. Article: 331873 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Re: Bill Turner? Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:23:49 -0500 Message-ID: <215e2211upc1l2jue87641b3dnftigpru8@4ax.com> References: <15720-4425F912-692@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1143340537.208541.165330@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 13:01:36 GMT, k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) wrote: >In article , >johnREMOVE@anatek.REMOVEmv.com says... >> >> >>the RCA 5T8 that I listen to every day just croaked, the >>power transformer again. Wonder why that has happened twice? >> >> >>John Bachman > > >Gradual breakdown of the insulation in the transformer due to >excessive heat... from putting 125 volts on a transformer that >was designed for 105 to 110 volts .... > >John k9uwa /w4 After the first failure I installed a series dropping resistor. The unit has been recapped and all out of tolerance resistors changed. Could be bad luck or evil spirits. I will do a spirit check. John Article: 331874 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Re: Bill Turner? Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:25:50 -0500 Message-ID: <445e22dgnt983cmf1t3qbmgvlt2r25id36@4ax.com> References: <1143340537.208541.165330@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <13892-442694DE-753@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 07:19:26 -0600, dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) wrote: >I SUGGEST THAT USING HARDBOARD IS A SERIOUS ERROR. IT IS TOO SOFT TO >USE AS A MOLD. THE PLASTIC SOLD BY HOBBY STORES IS ALSO NOT THE RIGHT >TYPE TO USE FOR DIALCOVERS. IT IS TOO SOFT. THE STATEMENT THAT A >VACUUM FRAME IS NEEDED IS ALSO INCORRECT. MANY HAVE TRIED TO MAKE >DIALCOVERS, FEW HAVE BEEN SUCESSFUL. MY BACKGROUND OF MORE THAN 6000 >DIALCOVERS INCLUDES MANY FAILURES IN THE EARLY STAGES. > > You are absolutely correct, Bill. I am using resin molds and buying plastic from a nearby plastic supply company. Anyone who says that dialcovers are easy is either a lier or a magician. John Article: 331875 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1143407937.165438.38960@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:39:09 -0500 "philo" wrote in message news:k6idnYuBHMN-jrrZRVn-tA@athenet.net... > swingst1@juno.com wrote: > > Hi, > > > > > the way i understand it...radio stations will still be sending out an > analog signal... > so I doubt you will have to worry about it If he listens to DX, the digital sidebands will eventually overrun the weaker, distant stations. The bands will be a mess. Since there's no monetary incentive for the Feds, like the few scant billions they prostituted the VHF TV assignments for, I'd bet there's a good chance they'll go bankrupt, digital or not. There's just no listener base left. Pete Article: 331876 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: magaznan@msn.com Subject: regimes Date: 26 Mar 2006 22:44:09 GMT Message-ID: <44271938$2$6655$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr> Collecter rapidement les informations nécessaires pour travailler de chez soi avec son ordinateur et de ce fait amasser rapidement des rentrées d'argents plus qu'honorables To collect the necessary information quickly for to work of at home with your computer and of that made accumulate quickly of the returns of money more that honorable contact: magaznan@msn.com http://www.allsolutionsnetwork.com/RN/RN32579 http://10perday.com/?ref=5113
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Article: 331877 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 14:46:46 -0800 Message-ID: <376e22p8dkar53jl573p1vhn83fuhshij1@4ax.com> References: <1143407937.165438.38960@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:39:09 -0500, " Uncle Peter" wrote: >If he listens to DX, the digital sidebands will eventually overrun the >weaker, >distant stations. Correct. Sideband energy of a QPSK carrier is lower in strength than that on FM or TV, but it's definitely there. >The bands will be a mess. Since there's no monetary >incentive for the Feds, like the few scant billions they prostituted the >VHF TV assignments for, I'd bet there's a good chance they'll >go bankrupt, digital or not. There's just no listener base left. True. As has been found out over and over by Arbitron, there is NO market to sell to with "dittoheads," who are among some of the cheapest target audiences in radio in terms of dollar spent per hour of listening. Hispanic and similar niche markets have similar low rates of return. There's simply no profit incentive for anyone to develop the band anymore, and just what good is "HD-AM" for clowns like Rush Limpdick and Bill "The Pervert" O'Reilly, anyway? None. The HD-AM fiasco will make the "AM stereo" mess look like a cakewalk. Article: 331878 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1143407937.165438.38960@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:56:27 -0500 "John Byrns" wrote in message news:jbyrns-2603061653160001@216-80-74- > How did the "Feds" "prostitute the VHF TV assignments"? Or did you mean > to say UHF TV assignments? > > > Regards, > > John Byrns > > > Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ Good evening John Didn't they hold auctions to sell many of the old VHF assignments to commercial interests a few years back? Pete Article: 331879 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1143340537.208541.165330@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <13892-442694DE-753@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> <445e22dgnt983cmf1t3qbmgvlt2r25id36@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Bill Turner? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:58:54 -0500 "John Bachman" wrote in message news:445e22dgnt983cmf1t3qbmgvlt2r25id36@4ax.com... > On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 07:19:26 -0600, dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) > supply company. > > Anyone who says that dialcovers are easy is either a lier or a > magician. > > John John do you have the molds made for the RCA 5T tombstone? Pete > Article: 331880 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1143407937.165438.38960@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <193e22lbiodl9l0kqi4ctqi0917nc8g2f8@4ax.com> <1143414372.198114.274310@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Message-ID: <5cFVf.4611$FD4.79@dukeread07> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:10:52 -0500 "frenchy" wrote in message news:1143414372.198114.274310@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... <> We are still able to receive free hdtv signals with HD tuners, I don't see where that is forcing me to pay for that content. Yeah cable and satellite are going digital but the networks will still be there which is all I was able to get with broadcast TV anyway. No I won't be able to watch it with an old TV but even then I can with a decoder and continue to watch for free. And HD quality is not just about the money, it looks WAY better than analog if they do it right. As for pay radio, I read where they are not exactly raking in the dough. There is no guarantee it will remain "free". They have the option of broadcasting multiple channels on one HD tv assignment. You may find you're receiving two paid advertising channels and a regular channel with the same bandwidth limitations you currently have on analog. They can also start charging for alternate program choices. Pete Article: 331881 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: magaznan@msn.com Subject: work at home Date: 26 Mar 2006 23:14:48 GMT Message-ID: <44272068$0$6652$8fcfb975@news.wanadoo.fr> Collecter rapidement les informations nécessaires pour travailler de chez soi avec son ordinateur et de ce fait amasser rapidement des rentrées d'argents plus qu'honorables To collect the necessary information quickly for to work of at home with your computer and of that made accumulate quickly of the returns of money more that honorable contact: magaznan@msn.com http://www.allsolutionsnetwork.com/RN/RN32579 http://10perday.com/?ref=5113
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Article: 331882 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Mine Was Marked at Half This Price... Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:17:25 -0500 Message-ID: <122e885imjfus0e@corp.supernews.com> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6614724120 ......at Westford- no lookers, no takers. I will report on the Frozen to Death in the Carolinas meet this weekend as soon as I thaw out. John H. Article: 331883 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <122e885imjfus0e@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Mine Was Marked at Half This Price... Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:19:42 GMT Hagstar wrote in message > > I will report on the Frozen to Death in the Carolinas meet this weekend as > soon as I thaw out. Ahh come on John, it wasn't that cold. Ron Article: 331884 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:21:27 -0500 Message-ID: <122e8fo7unqd5d6@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143407937.165438.38960@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Yes, digital AM will be taking over as soon as our conversion to the metric system is complete- say about 2050. In my business we have been promised an electronic ski binding for a quarter century- what a JOKE, we're still waiting for the " inevitable". John H. Article: 331885 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Mine Was Marked at Half This Price... References: <122e885imjfus0e@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <2yFVf.14670$%d.11463@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:34:22 GMT And As a result of this, I ended up buying this. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6615304087 Thanks Yonny. Jeff Hagstar wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6614724120 > > ......at Westford- no lookers, no takers. > > I will report on the Frozen to Death in the Carolinas meet this weekend as > soon as I thaw out. > > John H. > > > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331886 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <48o3unFl5pgnU1@individual.net> <48o9b1Fl7p7gU1@individual.net> Subject: Re: Lager Barrel Radio Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:51:57 GMT "Skycloud" wrote in message news:48o9b1Fl7p7gU1@individual.net... > > > -- > "jim menning" wrote in message > news:GLBVf.25138$iR1.15815@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... >> >>> >> >> Would that be similar to the "Radio Keg" made by R.K.Radio Laboratories that can >> be found pictured here? >> >> http://images.google.com/images?q=radio+keg&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images >> > > Wow... it's one of them... yes ! So it's called a 'keg' eh? > > >> >> I think there may be two versions of the chassis, a 4-tube and a 5-tube. >> >> 4-tube: >> >> http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/959/M0015959.pdf >> > This is it ! Problem solved. Many thanks, Jim. > > Steve > Good luck! jim menning Article: 331887 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <122e885imjfus0e@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Mine Was Marked at Half This Price... Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:55:29 GMT I gotta stop being such a Cheap bastard and buy me a Scott! I want that nice roachy cabinet I can get cheap and restore but its gotta have the nice perfect chrome I dont have to replate. Realistic combination right? Keith "Hagstar" wrote in message news:122e885imjfus0e@corp.supernews.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6614724120 > > ......at Westford- no lookers, no takers. > > I will report on the Frozen to Death in the Carolinas meet this weekend as > soon as I thaw out. > > John H. > > > Article: 331888 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Proper use of sanding sealer on radio cabinet Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:12:59 -0400 Message-ID: <122ebgef43hn7dd@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143399497.847829.286040@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1143406632.389912.270670@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> AuroraOldRadios wrote: > The entire cabinet should have multiple coats of sanding sealer. The > sealer does several things. It prepares the wood to receive the final > coats. It "closes" the grain to give the smooth, glassy look. It also > adds durability to the finish to help protect against scratches and > dings. I wouldn't apply toner until after the sanding sealer coats. The > close-grained wood used where the toner goes usually doesn't require as > much sealer as walnut. You can use 600 sandpaper or 0000 steel wool or > the green scotch stuff- gently after each coat. A clean old t-shirt can > be used to wipe off the dust as well as compressed air. > Hagstar is gonna diss us for talking about sanding sealer! Its part of my regimen. I fill the grain first with grain filler, of course, and use the sanding sealer afterwards. It sands easily because its soft and consequently you really don't want to use it for 'building up' a surface or as a crutch for not having filled the grain. Your grain should be filled BEFORE the sealer. The sealer may take care of a few little minor things that you may have missed. The real bonus is that it creates a buffer for silicon infection artifacts or any other weird stuff that may have been applied to the cabinet in the past. Toner goes on afterwards. Some guys use stain but the only time I use stain is on the bare wood and rarely encounter the splotchiness problem that is often mentioned in regard to cheap wood that doesn't stain well. That in itself is a singal to use toner. You don't HAVE to use "Sanding Sealer" for this. Many prefer shellac. Either way its good insurance that the oil or Pledge somebody applied years ago doesn't turn your effort into a major fish-eye failure. GL, Bill Article: 331889 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: AC line drop resistor Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:21:14 -0400 Message-ID: <122ebvsne125fca@corp.supernews.com> References: <422-4426DE51-14@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> TerryJ wrote: > Use a CL90 NTC thermistor.... The CL-90 won't drop the voltage significantly. For the voltage it does drop it gets equally as hot as a resistor and doesn't offer the advantage of heat-sinking. I agree that the first step is to confirm that the AC current draw is as expected. You can place your $9.95 chinese DMM right across the switch to measure that. I also agree that some of the Zenith xfmrs seem to be very marginal and taking down the line voltage by 15 volts or so often seems to cool them down with no negtive effect on performance. If you have a variac you can confirm this before warming up the soldering gun. Ken, I've got a supply of 18 ohm/50 watter chassis mount resistors for the asking if you need one to cure the problem. -Bill Article: 331890 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:51:13 -0400 Message-ID: <122edo8ahmpjl27@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143407937.165438.38960@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <193e22lbiodl9l0kqi4ctqi0917nc8g2f8@4ax.com> <1143414372.198114.274310@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFVf.4611$FD4.79@dukeread07> Uncle Peter wrote: > "frenchy" wrote in message > news:1143414372.198114.274310@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > < la "satrad." The same goes for "HD-TV"...it's all about money, and > being able to cram more carriers into the same amount of bandwidth. >> > > We are still able to receive free hdtv signals with HD tuners, I don't > see where that is forcing me to pay for that content. Yeah cable and > satellite are going digital but the networks will still be there which > is all I was able to get with broadcast TV anyway. No I won't be able > to watch it with an old TV but even then I can with a decoder and > continue to watch for free. And HD quality is not just about the > money, it looks WAY better than analog if they do it right. > As for pay radio, I read where they are not exactly raking in the > dough. > > There is no guarantee it will remain "free". They have the option of > broadcasting multiple channels on one HD tv assignment. You may > find you're receiving two paid advertising channels and a regular > channel with the same bandwidth limitations you currently have > on analog. They can also start charging for alternate program > choices. > > Pete > > My rant... First, drop the HD moniker. Digital TV and digital radio have nothing to do with High Definition. Thats a different can of worms and is significant when it comes to digital tv. Digital Tv makes a bit of sense. It offers the broadcaster the ability to have multiple channels for his own purposes or for leasing out to others and in the areas where it works, it works damn good. By the same token, in areas where it doesn't work its totally useless. High Definition transmission eats up most of that digital channel space at current standards and thats why we're not seeing any mad rush to broadcast hi-def over the air. The channel spectrum issue is still up in the air. They allocated DTV channels on BOTH VHF and UHF but digital presumes to allow adjacent channel usage. I haven't seen that to be a successful proven idea simply because it hasn't gone into widespread use. Digital hash from an adjacent channel can indeed cause problems and all the algorithms in the world cannot cure that. No, you won't see two pictures - you'll see nothing instead. But granted, digital TV has a much lower criteria for carrier-to-garbage artifacts. The jury is still out on this. They did sell off channels above 50 in several major markets many years ago. And I'm sure they'll sell off more as time goes on. As it stands now a TV station may keep their current assignment and use it for digital after the 'transition'. I'm not sure how many will opt for that but suffice it to say that the whole of the VHF band won't be for sale to the wi-fi and cellfone people. And therein lies a major rub. What good is a cellphone or wi-fi card that operates on 'channel four' in Los Angeles when channel four is used for tv in Cleveland? There's some major issues at stake here and they haven't begun to sort it all out. Technology runs faster than the FCC so who knows where the ultimate answers will be found. Digital AM radio? Thats like chrome plating a pig. AM radio's fundamental problem is not audio fidelity or spectral issues. The same carrot is there in that they can multiplex digital wi-fi or data customers but the FCC is blatently negligent in keeping the AM spectrum clean from RFI...and you guessed it...BPL. This dirty snowball should melt away before it reaches the bottom of the hill. /rant -Bill Article: 331891 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:55:50 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > A technician would look into it, and respond to me within 12 hours. > That was three days ago. February 18th. SBC installs new phones lines for a business down the street. February 20th. The DSL on line 2 goes down. And incoming rollever stops working. Calling my cell phone from the line inquestion it is now a new and unknown phone number. March 12th. Line 2 suddenly reappears where it should. As of March 26th, still no DSL despite daily calls to everyone involved and assurances that "It should work now." Welcome to the age of technology. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331892 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:11:36 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:55:50 GMT, Jeffrey D Angus wrote: >Welcome to the age of technology. No, welcome to the age of "deregulated services." Back when there was one phone company (and a smattering of independents,) such an incident would have resulted in free service, severe sanctions by the state's PUC and a raft of other fixes. Now, with "deregulation" getting its hands on everything...your service down? HAHAHAHA! Lotsa luck, Charlie...and that's from the LECs! Things WERE better when we had a regulated monopoly...period. Cheaper in California, too. dB Article: 331893 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:18:06 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1143407937.165438.38960@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <193e22lbiodl9l0kqi4ctqi0917nc8g2f8@4ax.com> <1143414372.198114.274310@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFVf.4611$FD4.79@dukeread07> <122edo8ahmpjl27@corp.supernews.com> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:51:13 -0400, - exray - wrote: >/rant > >-Bill ...and a pretty fine one it is, too. Suffice it to say that "Uncle Charlie" (FCC) is now just a front office for the ceffone and PDA industry, nothing more. "Standards? What standards? We don't need no steeenking standards!" Article: 331894 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 18:15:57 -0700 Message-ID: <420-44273CCD-293@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: At any rate glad your back .. I always enjoy your posts . Article: 331895 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: AC line drop resistor Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:28:48 -0400 Message-ID: <122efuir845v85c@corp.supernews.com> References: <422-4426DE51-14@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> <122ebvsne125fca@corp.supernews.com> TerryJ wrote: > The CL90 usually drops about five volts.. depends on load current. More > current and more heat drops less. The surge protection justifies its > use. YMMV. Thats a tad over-optimistic. I recall its 'hot' resistance is about 2 ohms and for a big 1 amp radio thats only 2 volts. If you want inrush surge limiting they are fine but don't consider that as an option for reducing the voltage and cooler operation. -Bill Article: 331896 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:40:07 -0800 Message-ID: <5jge22d3jtrgu8actquet0lpk6ta4rm6cl@4ax.com> References: <1143407937.165438.38960@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <193e22lbiodl9l0kqi4ctqi0917nc8g2f8@4ax.com> <1143414372.198114.274310@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFVf.4611$FD4.79@dukeread07> <122edo8ahmpjl27@corp.supernews.com> <1143423061.158897.208100@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 26 Mar 2006 17:31:01 -0800, swingst1@juno.com wrote: >Thanks Bill, > >My thing is AM radio, I still love it the way it is....in that at night >I can Dx other local talk and news. I'm 50, I never got over the thrill >of picking up distant stations. > >I'm kind of a news-talk junky. I've been listening since I was 12. (I >grew up with WNBC...WABC....WMCA) > >I listen to shortwave radio as well. > >Are you saying that AM will be in its current form for a while?? thats >what I really want to know. > >I like the sound of AM though my tube radios. I'll go nutz if AM goes >away. > >thanks!! Barry . What's this....the stereo simulcast? Article: 331897 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Mine Was Marked at Half This Price... Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:45:11 -0500 Message-ID: <122egt8qdff5mb8@corp.supernews.com> References: <122e885imjfus0e@corp.supernews.com> " Ron in Radio Heaven" > > Ahh come on John, it wasn't that cold. > True, I just wasn't expecting it (the rain and still being outside) and brought no long johns or trenchcoat. John H. Article: 331898 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:48:31 -0400 Message-ID: <122eh3ipn2jqj61@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143407937.165438.38960@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <193e22lbiodl9l0kqi4ctqi0917nc8g2f8@4ax.com> <1143414372.198114.274310@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFVf.4611$FD4.79@dukeread07> <122edo8ahmpjl27@corp.supernews.com> <1143422068.592230.324940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> swingst1@juno.com wrote: > Thanks Bill, > > My thing is AM radio, I still love it the way it is....in that at night > I can Dx other local talk and news. I'm 50, I never got over the thrill > of picking up distant stations. > > I'm kind of a news-talk junky. I've been listening since I was 12. (I > grew up with WNBC...WABC....WMCA) > > I listen to shortwave radio as well. > > Are you saying that AM will be in its current form for a while?? thats > what I really want to know. > > I like the sound of AM though my tube radios. I'll go nutz if AM goes > away. > > thanks!! Barry . Your listening habits sound much like mine. I'm 52...no, make that 53 since February has slipped by. :( I work in cable. We started hearing about "small home dishes in Japan" back in the late 70s. It took 20 years for them to get a good foothold here in the US in spite of the obvious benefits. And they are now a major player in the TV market. At the same time, broadcast tv didn't disappear, cable didn't disappear. Same with cellphones. I live in Puerto Rico and we have historically had areas with no service or poor service thru the 'wired' phone company. Although we have one of the highest cellphone % penetrations in the world the good old twisted wire folks are showing record profits. That said, unless they create some miraculous longevity pill I don't think you or I will be seeing plain-jane AM broadcasting totally disappear. Whether or not its worth listening to becomes more of an option rather than it being the only source of entertainment on our old radios. Around here there's no digital AM, and only a couple satellite-fed robot AM stations. Most all are 100% local programming. So if all your local stations go Clear Channel Digital just tune into us...we're about 40 years behind the curve as is much of the radio market outside of the whiz-bang metro areas :) -Bill Article: 331899 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:52:10 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1143423377.311959.90140@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> On 26 Mar 2006 17:36:17 -0800, pgonshor@aol.com wrote: >I figured that Earthlink was a really >screwed up company and still do. Stay away. >Dave Of course, that's obvious, once you realize that "Earthlink" was a spin-off form the "scientologesque" MindSpring cult. They got a bunch of MindSpringers in there to run the place, and the design mantra was, "We are focused. It will work for us because we are on a higher level." BZZZZZZZZZ...wrong! Article: 331900 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "CLFE" References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1143423377.311959.90140@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:45:59 -0500 Message-ID: <442745dc$0$3679$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> wrote in message news:1143423377.311959.90140@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > > I tried Earthlink a couple of years ago. They were advertising how AOL > users (me) should switch because their service was so much better. > Well, I did. Well, Earthlink didn't work at all. Turns out that AOL > makes changes to IE that Earthlink could not tolerate. Trouble is, > scores of phonecalls and emails and nobody at Earthlink knew how to > make it work for AOL users, even though they had a mass advertising > campaign to attract AOL users. I figured that Earthlink was a really > screwed up company and still do. Stay away. > Dave > A friend of mine (AOL user) tried Verizon DSL recently. Her computer "worked" BEFORE installing the software - the DSL didn't work - she cancelled the service, went to get back on AOL - only to find - many Windows files deleted and AOL not working. The computer is now in a shop. clf Article: 331901 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "CLFE" References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1143423377.311959.90140@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <442745dc$0$3679$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:01:06 -0500 Message-ID: <4427474e$0$3684$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "CLFE" wrote in message news:442745dc$0$3679$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net... > wrote in message > news:1143423377.311959.90140@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... >> >> I tried Earthlink a couple of years ago. They were advertising how AOL >> users (me) should switch because their service was so much better. >> Well, I did. Well, Earthlink didn't work at all. Turns out that AOL >> makes changes to IE that Earthlink could not tolerate. Trouble is, >> scores of phonecalls and emails and nobody at Earthlink knew how to >> make it work for AOL users, even though they had a mass advertising >> campaign to attract AOL users. I figured that Earthlink was a really >> screwed up company and still do. Stay away. >> Dave >> > > A friend of mine (AOL user) tried Verizon DSL recently. Her computer > "worked" BEFORE installing the software - the DSL didn't work - she > cancelled the service, went to get back on AOL - only to find - many > Windows files deleted and AOL not working. The computer is now in a shop. > > clf In reference to my previous post - above - I am not saying/can not say with any certainty - that the Verizon DSL created the problem within my friend's computer - but it sure seems awfully strange that all the sudden - the computer isn't working....... clf Article: 331902 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Philco Mystery Control Message-ID: <5IHVf.468$up2.464@fed1read07> Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:01:41 -0700 OK, so I finally got myself a nice example of a Philco Mystery Control. Battery and tube are present, dial turns smoothly without binding, case is a bit better than OK, station tabs and their plastic covers are all present. I thought I would check out the schematic in Riders, but either I don't know the Philco "model" as indexed in Riders, or it isn't there. I know, it is a simple circuit and I could trace it out myself - but I would have thought it would be right there. Any help or suggestions? What am I missing? Thanks Bill Jeffrey Article: 331903 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:05:50 -0400 Message-ID: <122ei42t0u86mc6@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > Gary Tayman wrote: > >> A technician would look into it, and respond to me within 12 hours. >> That was three days ago. > > > February 18th. SBC installs new phones lines for a business down the > street. > > February 20th. The DSL on line 2 goes down. And incoming rollever > stops working. > > Calling my cell phone from the line inquestion it is now a new and > unknown phone number. > > March 12th. Line 2 suddenly reappears where it should. > > As of March 26th, still no DSL despite daily calls to everyone > involved and assurances that "It should work now." > > Welcome to the age of technology. > > Jeff > Local phone company. Sept 2005. "Enter your phone number here to see if DSL is available in your area. Our technicians will verify that your line is DSL capable so that you can enjoy rapid...." Sept 2005. Congratulations, your area is serviced by DMAX. Your DMAX modem will be sent via priority mail and if you have any questions feel free to contact our support line at 1-800-bla-bla. December 2005 - same email message received in response to query. January 2006 - received modem in the mail and charges on the phone bill. Doesn't work. Jan-Feb 2006 - Multiple calls and line checks. "Must be a bad modem, send it back. After the sixth Support call "Technician says DSL is not available in your area. Please check back with us in the future" Feb 2006-now. - Sorry, we can't help with billing. You need to call the PRTC billing office. Feb 2006 - phone account disconnected while cancelling DMAX account Feb 2006 - call to billing for adjustment says to send 35.96 instead of 160.00. Mar 2006 - phone line disconnected again. Mar 2006 - call to billing says send 40.06. Sent. Bill arrives afterwards with $200+ past due. Mar. 26 - waiting to see the line disconnected again Oh well. -Bill Article: 331904 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: Bill Turner? References: <15720-4425F912-692@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1143340537.208541.165330@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:07:46 -0700 "Whoops! 404 Error" on this link. 'Sup, dude? Bill Jeffrey ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ John Bachman wrote: > John Bachman > www.anatekcorp.com/dialcovers.htm Article: 331905 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1143423377.311959.90140@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <442745dc$0$3679$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <4427474e$0$3684$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:11:43 GMT CLFE wrote: > In reference to my previous post - above - I am not saying/can not say with > any certainty - that the Verizon DSL created the problem > within my friend's computer - but it sure seems awfully strange that all the > sudden - the computer isn't working....... Almost every "value added" internet provider seems to have some stack of files that they just HAVE to write over for thier service. Compuserve used to do that. They're replace the winsock program. Then of course, nothing else would work right. AOL and Earthlink BOTH change things around to work with thier "value added" browsers. I especially find Yahoo trying to change my tool bar everytime I do something most annoying. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331906 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: AC line drop resistor Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:01:36 -0700 Message-ID: <420-44274780-297@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: <122ebvsne125fca@corp.supernews.com> Wow thanks everyone , this is nice ! The 12V transformer thing Syl mentioned interests me . Are we talking small wall wart transformers ? and how does that get hooked up ? Can one make chokes out of transformer wire on a large short bolt to sub for this ? My line voltage tests 121 volts with a Fluke 73 . I put it on AC amps and like Bill said and it reads .91 ... With a variac set to 110 volts the meter reads .81 on this 10 tube Zenith ( 10S130 if that matters ) Bill i will run throught some tests before i decide what to use . I appreciate you resistor offer man ! I have the radio on 110 volts right now to see how hot it gets . Other radios dont get this hot . I dont use my radios much but lately i want to . Article: 331907 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1143407937.165438.38960@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <193e22lbiodl9l0kqi4ctqi0917nc8g2f8@4ax.com> <1143414372.198114.274310@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFVf.4611$FD4.79@dukeread07> <122edo8ahmpjl27@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:15:52 -0500 "- exray -" wrote in message news:122edo8ahmpjl27@corp.supernews.com... > Uncle Peter wrote: > > My rant... > First, drop the HD moniker. Digital TV and digital radio have nothing > to do with High Definition. Thats a different can of worms and is > significant when it comes to digital tv. > > /rant > > -Bill Amen. DirecTv is digital, and certainly NOT anywhere's near being HD. Most of the channels have so much compression that the pictures are muddy and have loads of digital artifacts. Pete Article: 331908 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: What is best lubricant for phono motors Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:19:06 -0700 Message-ID: <420-44274B9A-300@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: <00od22h2s9ddvadqorl43nmtt10g3mg9c4@4ax.com> the worst thing one can do is use motor oil. Ok .. i admit i dont know much about all the oils .... so WHY are we puting motor oil in our auto engines . Also i dont know of any oiled mechanism that does not get black gunk after time . Article: 331909 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:28:00 GMT Hi! > A phone call to Earthlink Support got me nowhere -- actually it took me > on a virtual tour of India. After the usual phone tree, I got someone > who barely speaks English, reading me instructions from a computer > screen, telling me to erase and reload my software. I just LOVE that sort of thing. (note extreme sarcasm!) Really, I've got nothing against the Indian people (or anyone else), but by all means, please PLEASE make sure these people can communicate to the market you're looking to serve. I was working with Earthlink DSL for a friend a long time ago...it was a long, painful and drawn out affair. However, one thing I did learn at the time--if you get your call escalated far enough, you just might be transferred back into the US. They have (or had) a call center in Omaha. Every time I talked to Omaha it was helpful. Talking to India was...frustrating. Neither group of techs could solve my problem, but the folks in Omaha were easier to talk to, less inclined to read scripts and I felt like they really wanted to help. > In the past I've had very little trouble with Earthlink. Now I'm ready > to tell them where to go, and cancel entirely -- except I can't, > because my business website is on the account. Hmmm. I don't think that I've ever gotten along with them well, although my opinion of them has risen in recent times. I don't know where your site is, but I ran my own web site from space provided by my ISP. Then their web server went down and never came back. I finally moved everyhing over to a hosting company (HostSave, now Gate.com if you want to know) and I haven't looked back since. William Article: 331910 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: moldy tube tester Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:20:39 -0700 Message-ID: <420-44274BF7-301@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: Its sometimes impossible to get rid of that smell Article: 331911 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:40:37 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1143423377.311959.90140@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <442745dc$0$3679$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <4427474e$0$3684$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "CLFE" wrote in message news:4427474e$0$3684$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net... > "CLFE" wrote in message > news:442745dc$0$3679$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net... >> wrote in message >> news:1143423377.311959.90140@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> I tried Earthlink a couple of years ago. They were advertising how AOL >>> users (me) should switch because their service was so much better. >>> Well, I did. Well, Earthlink didn't work at all. Turns out that AOL >>> makes changes to IE that Earthlink could not tolerate. Trouble is, >>> scores of phonecalls and emails and nobody at Earthlink knew how to >>> make it work for AOL users, even though they had a mass advertising >>> campaign to attract AOL users. I figured that Earthlink was a really >>> screwed up company and still do. Stay away. >>> Dave >>> >> >> A friend of mine (AOL user) tried Verizon DSL recently. Her computer >> "worked" BEFORE installing the software - the DSL didn't work - she >> cancelled the service, went to get back on AOL - only to find - many >> Windows files deleted and AOL not working. The computer is now in a shop. >> >> clf > > In reference to my previous post - above - I am not saying/can not say > with any certainty - that the Verizon DSL created the > problem within my friend's computer - but it sure seems awfully strange > that all the sudden - the computer isn't working....... > The problem doesn't lie with either Earthlink nor Verizon DSL.. it lies with the stinking spyware that AOL installs on your machine. It changes various files in not only IE, but also in your internet connection software and various other systems, making it impossible to use any other ISP or connection scheme without uninstalling AOL (almost impossible to do completely) and doing a system restore to a point before AOL was installed.... for one friend of mine, I actually had to do a repair from the XP installation disc. AOL thinks their customers are imbiciles (this may be the case for some) that don't know how to do anything at all with their computers. They also seem to think that their customers will remain with them indefinately. To this end, they modify your computer's operating system to do what THEY want it to do. Article: 331912 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: AC line drop resistor References: <122ebvsne125fca@corp.supernews.com> <420-44274780-297@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:37:26 GMT Ken G. wrote: > Wow thanks everyone , this is nice ! The 12V transformer thing Syl > mentioned interests me . Are we talking small wall wart transformers ? > and how does that get hooked up ? The secondary winding of the "boost/buck" transformer has to be capable of handling the same current that the main transformer primary winding. So, for a 1 amp primary on an old radio, you need a 12 V @ 1 Amp secondary on the buck/boost transformer. They are available at most Radio Shack stores. The primary of the buck/boost transformer goes to the wall plug. The secondary is in series with one of the radio transformer primary winding. sec AC >-+---/\/\/\-------+ | ====== } ----\/\/\/---- } radio pri | } primary | } AC >--------------+---+ Measure the filament voltage with the tubes removed. If if iis too high, reverse either the primary or the secondary windings on the buck/boost transformer. You can use 6.3, 12.6 or 18.9 V filament transformers to move the line voltage up or down either 6.3, 12.6 or 18.9 volts. Just make sure that the secondary current rating is equal to or greater than the required total current draw of the radio itself. > Can one make chokes out of transformer wire on a large short bolt to sub > for this ? Not a good idea. For a variety of reasons. Very lossy transformer design to say the least, and eddy current problems. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331913 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <5IHVf.468$up2.464@fed1read07> Subject: Re: Philco Mystery Control Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:39:02 GMT "Bill Jeffrey" wrote in message news:5IHVf.468$up2.464@fed1read07... > OK, so I finally got myself a nice example of a Philco Mystery Control. Battery and > tube are present, dial turns smoothly without binding, case is a bit better than > OK, station tabs and their plastic covers are all present. I thought I would check > out the schematic in Riders, but either I don't know the Philco "model" as indexed > in Riders, or it isn't there. I know, it is a simple circuit and I could trace it > out myself - but I would have thought it would be right there. Any help or > suggestions? What am I missing? > > Thanks > > Bill Jeffrey At nostalgiaair.org you look under Philco then scroll down to the alphabetized model numbers until you reach "Mystery Control". Riders lumped it in with Philco 39-55 radios, the basic AM set that used the remote. http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/073/M0014073.pdf jim menning Article: 331914 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44275AF7.1F0D8AC7@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <38JVf.15007$%d.14860@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:39:43 GMT Michael A. Terrell wrote: > BTW: DSL is an acronym for "Dammed Sorry Liars"! Reminds me of ISDN, "Inovations Subscribers Don't Need." (Compliments of Phil Karn while he was working at Belcore.) Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331915 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <422-4426DE51-14@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: AC line drop resistor Message-ID: Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:49:39 -0500 "John Byrns" wrote in message > In article , "Syl" > wrote: > >> "Ken G." wrote in message >> news:422-4426DE51-14@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net... >> > What was the proper ohms for this ? my 10 tube Zenith gets to hot >> >> If you want to lower the AC voltage, best would be to use a bucking >> transformer. >> A 12 VAC 1A in series is best. No heat, can be either put in a small >> metal >> box or >> as I do with all my consoles, hide the transformer besides the chassis. > > > It would be better to connect the transformer as a step down > autotransformer rather than as a "bucking transformer", it can handle > somewhat greater current that way. Radio Shack used to sell 10 volt > heater transformers that were perfect for this application. > > > Regards, > > John Byrns Hi John, I see you're still around and never lost the nit-picking...-hehe "Somewhat greater" translating in a few percent, depending on output voltage ratio. I used the "bucking transformer" definition to simplify the understanding of the idea. In fact, I use mostly the "step-down autotransformer" configuration but this is a moot point when using a 2A transformer to lower the line by 12-15V to a radio that draws 1A max.. ;o) Syl Article: 331916 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: newsgroup reader? OT but necessary Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:18:06 -0700 Message-ID: Hi, Does anyone know of a good newsgroup reader? Right now I am using Pan which is OK for text and viewing pictures but it won't post binaries. I have tried Agent, but it puts the binaries and the text that is supposed to go with it in separate posts. Is there some setting that can correct that? What about Free Agent? When my trial period expires, what will I lose if I choose that? Their web site isn't very informative. Is there anything better than any of these? Where can I get it? Thanks in advance, -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 331917 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: AC line drop resistor Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:12:53 -0700 Message-ID: <420-44276645-333@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: Thanks Jeff for that , it confuses me :-( The radio has been on for 2 hours or so at a 11 volt drop the transformer just takes longer to get hot . Article: 331918 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:30:14 -0800 Message-ID: <9hqe22tta8kauadpk3it9p02kjk3o1scif@4ax.com> References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <122ei42t0u86mc6@corp.supernews.com> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:05:50 -0400, - exray - wrote: >Jeffrey D Angus wrote: >Mar 2006 - call to billing says send 40.06. Sent. Bill arrives >afterwards with $200+ past due. > >Mar. 26 - waiting to see the line disconnected again > >Oh well. > >-Bill Welcome to "deregulation." Free marketeers have made crime pay! Article: 331919 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: What is best lubricant for phono motors Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 20:32:20 -0800 Message-ID: References: <00od22h2s9ddvadqorl43nmtt10g3mg9c4@4ax.com> <420-44274B9A-300@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:19:06 -0700, goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) wrote: >the worst thing one can do is use motor oil. > >Ok .. i admit i dont know much about all the oils .... so WHY are we >puting motor oil in our auto engines . >Also i dont know of any oiled mechanism that does not get black gunk >after time . I do. It was my job to maintain large diesel and gas turbine power plants for AT&T for quite some time. Asphaltum and paraffin oils are perfectly fine for automotive and stationary internal combustion engines. Mineral oil is used primarily for non-engine machines and for avaiation engine. Both are fine at what they do. DO NOT MIX THEM. Get it? Article: 331920 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44277F9D.63385502@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: newsgroup reader? OT but necessary References: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:02:20 GMT Jim Mueller wrote: > > Hi, > > Does anyone know of a good newsgroup reader? Right now I am using Pan > which is OK for text and viewing pictures but it won't post binaries. I > have tried Agent, but it puts the binaries and the text that is supposed > to go with it in separate posts. Is there some setting that can correct > that? What about Free Agent? When my trial period expires, what will I > lose if I choose that? Their web site isn't very informative. Is there > anything better than any of these? Where can I get it? Have you looked at Thunderbird from Mozilla.org? Its free, and doesn't expire. http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird/releases/1.5.html -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331921 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <442780C0.757B9429@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44275AF7.1F0D8AC7@earthlink.net> <38JVf.15007$%d.14860@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:07:11 GMT Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > BTW: DSL is an acronym for "Dammed Sorry Liars"! > > Reminds me of ISDN, "Inovations Subscribers Don't Need." > (Compliments of Phil Karn while he was working at Belcore.) It was also called "A technology looking for a use." :( A local pager repair company went out of business while waiting over six months to get their Sprint DSL to work. They blew a wad on someone to network all of their computers to a DSL router, but they never managed to connect to the net via their business DSL account. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331922 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: newsgroup reader? OT but necessary Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:11:15 -0800 Message-ID: <9e0f22poastvmua4i44k49fktuuv6q2fo8@4ax.com> References: On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 21:18:06 -0700, Jim Mueller wrote: >Hi, > >Does anyone know of a good newsgroup reader? You can spend nights educating yourself on how to use Xnews, or you can just buy Forté Agent and be done with it. Agent's the best of them all, and I've used them all. My 2˘ worth, anyway. dB Article: 331923 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: AC line drop resistor Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:12:17 -0400 Message-ID: <122f0i4mnmu222d@corp.supernews.com> References: <122ebvsne125fca@corp.supernews.com> <420-44274780-297@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Ken G. wrote: > > My line voltage tests 121 volts with a Fluke 73 . I put it on AC amps > and like Bill said and it reads .91 ... With a variac set to 110 volts > the meter reads .81 on this 10 tube Zenith ( 10S130 if that matters ) > > Bill i will run throught some tests before i decide what to use . I > appreciate you resistor offer man ! > > I have the radio on 110 volts right now to see how hot it gets . Other > radios dont get this hot . You'll probably notice a heat difference between 121 and 110. You see that the current drops a good 10% so that should help. But I guess you saw my response about my Midwest radio...some trafos simply crap out after 60-70 years for no particular reason. At least you can try to coddle them. In my Midwest radio you could barely feel any heat with the transformer in operation. It - both - just popped while playing. Stu$$ happens. -Bill Article: 331924 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: newsgroup reader? OT but necessary Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:31:43 -0800 Message-ID: <0k1f22hqlrbmt3ulmg8dd7cdt5k399gb6v@4ax.com> References: <44277F9D.63385502@earthlink.net> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:02:20 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > Have you looked at Thunderbird from Mozilla.org? Its free, and >doesn't expire. http://www.mozilla.com/thunderbird/releases/1.5.html Free is good...well, maybe except for xnews, which requires the equivalent of an MSCS to use. Thx for the tip, Mike, I'll try this just for S&G. Article: 331925 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: What is best lubricant for phono motors Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:33:12 -0800 Message-ID: <6n1f22hfdsc5bq56aa36mttd6mkgeuusbt@4ax.com> References: On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 01:33:07 -0500, "Mark Oppat" wrote: >3 in 1 DOES make a correct oil... its in the BLUE can, and shows an electric >motor on the can... its right next to the red can oil usually. 3-in-1 products are notoriously and consistantly low in quality. I wouldn't recommend them to anyone except for oiling door hinges. The ash content in red 3-in-1 is so bad you can see the chunks with a 10X lupe! Article: 331926 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:43:17 -0400 Message-ID: <122f2c8nbtv1g72@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143407937.165438.38960@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <193e22lbiodl9l0kqi4ctqi0917nc8g2f8@4ax.com> <1143414372.198114.274310@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFVf.4611$FD4.79@dukeread07> <122edo8ahmpjl27@corp.supernews.com> <1143422068.592230.324940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <122eh3ipn2jqj61@corp.supernews.com> <1143426261.406308.214060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> swingst1@juno.com wrote: > Bill, > > Thats so true about cable TV, not making broadcast TV go away. > > > I wonder if back when FM radio was introduced, if people thought that > AM would go away? Yes, it was said, but 20 years after FM 'hit' the market where I lived in Charlotte...not a small market even back then. In the late 60s we had 4 FM stations. Three were simulcasts from AM and one was from the Carolina School of Broadcasting and had about 2 mile radius and jokers trying to read labels off of classical LPs. In those days (late 60s) in that market FM was a novelty thing. Obviously, twenty years of magazine articles declaring AM as dead because of FM didn't pan out where I was. It took *thirty* years to kill local AM and it was really distinct programming that drove the change, not the technology. Thats not happening with AM radio's aspirations nowadays. What are they hoping to sell to the listener? Does Limbaugh sound any better on digital AM than regular AM? Article: 331927 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:06:46 -0400 Message-ID: <122f3o9n63rms4c@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1143423377.311959.90140@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <442745dc$0$3679$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <4427474e$0$3684$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Brenda Ann wrote: > "CLFE" wrote in message > news:4427474e$0$3684$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net... > >>"CLFE" wrote in message >>news:442745dc$0$3679$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net... >> >>> wrote in message >>>news:1143423377.311959.90140@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... >>> >>>>I tried Earthlink a couple of years ago. They were advertising how AOL >>>>users (me) should switch because their service was so much better. >>>>Well, I did. Well, Earthlink didn't work at all. Turns out that AOL >>>>makes changes to IE that Earthlink could not tolerate. Trouble is, >>>>scores of phonecalls and emails and nobody at Earthlink knew how to >>>>make it work for AOL users, even though they had a mass advertising >>>>campaign to attract AOL users. I figured that Earthlink was a really >>>>screwed up company and still do. Stay away. >>>>Dave >>>> >>> >>>A friend of mine (AOL user) tried Verizon DSL recently. Her computer >>>"worked" BEFORE installing the software - the DSL didn't work - she >>>cancelled the service, went to get back on AOL - only to find - many >>>Windows files deleted and AOL not working. The computer is now in a shop. >>> >>>clf >> >>In reference to my previous post - above - I am not saying/can not say >>with any certainty - that the Verizon DSL created the >>problem within my friend's computer - but it sure seems awfully strange >>that all the sudden - the computer isn't working....... >> > > > The problem doesn't lie with either Earthlink nor Verizon DSL.. it lies with > the stinking spyware that AOL installs on your machine. It changes various > files in not only IE, but also in your internet connection software and > various other systems, making it impossible to use any other ISP or > connection scheme without uninstalling AOL (almost impossible to do > completely) and doing a system restore to a point before AOL was > installed.... As much as I would like to agree on that concept, I can't blame Gary's issue on AOL. Yes, a few years ago AOL had a habit of taking a system 'captive' in some respects but nowadays I dont find that to be the case-at least in the context of impeding anything...and if it happened to me I'd get a 14 year-old who is up to speed to unfuck it. AOL isn't NASA. I don't know what you are talking about AOL spyware...I think you are parroting through your hat based on a bunch of old 'lore'. them indefinately. To this end, they modify your computer's operating system > to do what THEY want it to do. How come those black helicopters don't have an AOL logo on the side? :) -Bill Article: 331928 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: AC line drop resistor Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:39:56 -0400 Message-ID: <122f5mg9abtcc39@corp.supernews.com> References: <420-44276645-333@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Ken G. wrote: > Thanks Jeff for that , it confuses me :-( > > The radio has been on for 2 hours or so at a 11 volt drop the > transformer just takes longer to get hot . > If it still gets too hot with reduced voltage, regardless of the time - and all the other stuff has been checked out - the xfmr is probably just waiting for a moment like when you are showing off the radio to a friend, to crap out. May be tomorrow, may be a year from now. Thats why we have ebay! -Bill Article: 331929 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 03:43:07 -0400 Message-ID: <122f5sda8n208d6@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143407937.165438.38960@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> g. beat < wrote: > > The college FM station that I worked a few shifts at many years ago .... > has gone to the HD radio format Can you describe what you mean as a "HD radio format""? -Bill Article: 331930 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4427975E.4DBF5625@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1143423377.311959.90140@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <442745dc$0$3679$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <4427474e$0$3684$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <122f3o9n63rms4c@corp.supernews.com> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:43:55 GMT - exray - wrote: > > How come those black helicopters don't have an AOL logo on the side? > > :) They do, but they are all black logos, too! ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331931 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <442797AC.72C50D92@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? References: <1143407937.165438.38960@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <193e22lbiodl9l0kqi4ctqi0917nc8g2f8@4ax.com> <1143414372.198114.274310@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFVf.4611$FD4.79@dukeread07> <122edo8ahmpjl27@corp.supernews.com> <1143422068.592230.324940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <122eh3ipn2jqj61@corp.supernews.com> <1143426261.406308.214060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <122f2c8nbtv1g72@corp.supernews.com> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:45:13 GMT - exray - wrote: > > Does Limbaugh sound any better on digital AM than regular AM? He sounds the best when the radio is off. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331932 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: Subject: Re: What is best lubricant for phono motors Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:04:02 GMT It sounds like it has a problem with viscosity. Heavy oil offers a lot of "drag" when cold but thins when hot and offers less resistance. You may have used too thick an oil or it has old gunk in it that contaminated it and hardens when cold. If the motor runs fine when warm it's probably OK. You just need to clean out the crud and relube with better stuff. Disassemble and clean with a good solvent. Relube, reassemble. A word of caution: Most motors with real Oilite-style (sintered bronze) bearings have felt pads in the bearing housings to hold oil to keep them moist. There may even be oil holes in the holders. Make sure these pads are dry before oiling them and reassembling the motor. You don't want solvent in the oil. If you don't find pads and the bearings are very small (common on later vintage stuff) the bearings may be solid and rely on oil more. If this is the case they will need more frequent service to keep them going. Also check the central bearing the turntable spins on/in. In single-play portables this is just a shaft in a sleeve with no real bearing. Grease (light) does all the work. Changers usually have a ball bearing that the turntable spins on with sleeve bearings to maintain place on the spindle. Lube them too. Problem should be solved. Ray "David" wrote in message news:Hc2dncnu7LheELvZRVn-tw@adelphia.com... >I seem to notice when I start a record player, it takes some time before it >is running at the correct speed. (It starts slow.) The motor is the common >AC type with steps for the different speeds. > I have tried different light oils such as 3 in one. What I notice is when > the motor is off for a while the shaft can be spun and takes a second or > two to stop. After it has run for several minutes and is warm, the shaft > can be spun and takes stays spinning a lot longer. > I suspect it is due to the lubrication. When cold it is not as "slick" as > when it is warm. > Any thoughts? > > Article: 331933 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1143407937.165438.38960@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <193e22lbiodl9l0kqi4ctqi0917nc8g2f8@4ax.com> <1143414372.198114.274310@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFVf.4611$FD4.79@dukeread07> <122edo8ahmpjl27@corp.supernews.com> <1143423061.158897.208100@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:24:21 GMT I got hooked on radio back in the days of WNBC and WOR with Long John Nebel and such. I got interested in old radios when I found they worked better than the current offerings around the house (cheap AA5s) at getting distant stations. Luckily for a kid like me the thrift stores were full of old radios for next to nothing. (Oh for a time machine.) I even had a console set in my bedroom at one point. Hope it last a few more years... Ray wrote in message news:1143423061.158897.208100@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Thanks Bill, > > My thing is AM radio, I still love it the way it is....in that at night > I can Dx other local talk and news. I'm 50, I never got over the thrill > of picking up distant stations. > > I'm kind of a news-talk junky. I've been listening since I was 12. (I > grew up with WNBC...WABC....WMCA) > > I listen to shortwave radio as well. > > Are you saying that AM will be in its current form for a while?? thats > what I really want to know. > > I like the sound of AM though my tube radios. I'll go nutz if AM goes > away. > > thanks!! Barry . > Article: 331934 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1143407937.165438.38960@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Message-ID: <%7PVf.43635$nB6.28126@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:29:15 GMT I am guessing we will be a good market for converters and household transmitters to keep our old sets going. Of course we will have to shield our houses to keep the new signals from interfering. Ray wrote in message news:1143407937.165438.38960@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > Hi, > > I've been hearing a lot about HD AM radio. Here in the Boston area, on > the AM dial there are now three places with the "hash" sound of HD AM. > > Question : Will we still be able to use the tube radios we so lovingly > restore back to life in the years to come? > > If we succumb to HD AM will I be able to DX at night? Does it work like > AM does now. > > There are many radio stations hundreds of miles away I listen to on a > regular basis (providing the Ionosphere is cooperative) > > I really love listenting to radio on my restored ...Stromberg1101 ..and > my Zenith G723 ..and my Motorola 52H just to name a few. > > > Am I doomed?? > > If anyone has any info it would be greatly appreciated! > > Thanks!! Happy listening. > Article: 331935 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1143428207.154336.278590@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wire recordings Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:51:12 GMT I never heard of any. The problem was that decent quality recording on wire only happened after WW2 when AC bias came along and tape came along with that. Wire never got out of tape's shadow after that. Wire was more practical for home use at first. It was stronger than paper tape and the mechanisms were cheaper. Tape prices came down and tape quality improved and the ability to splice and repair tape was a plus. Wire also had phase problems that made for less-than-ideal music performance, especially with strings and piano. Tape didn't have that problem plus the capstan drive made for better wow & flutter performance and interchangeability. Even then it took several years before prerecorded tapes appeared and by then wire was in the same class as home-cutting records - a legacy market. Even then the first tapes came from small companies. The major players didn't get into it until the potential was proven and formats had shaken out. (Mono had given way to stereo and stacked heads had won over staggered.) When later formats came out manufacturers courted record companies so as to have prerecorded material available before they introduced their lines. 8-track, Playtape, etc. Now it's reversed. The record companies decide what formats will be manufactured and offered to the public. The studio releases lead the technology changes. Ray "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:1143428207.154336.278590@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Here is a question I was about to post when Earthlink's award-winning > support got in the way. Remember, someone had just successfully copied > his grandfather's wire recordings on a makeshift machine he rigged for > the purpose. > > My question is: do you know of any pre-recorded wires? Like, did > Frank Sinatra or Frankie Laine or maybe even Bing Crosby record an > album onto wire and sell it? It seems there were commercial recordings > on just about every other format, 78's, 45's, LP's, 4-track, 8-track, > reel-to-reel, cassette, CD, but what about wire? > > I recently visited Bananas Records in St. Pete. They claim to be the > biggest record store in the world, with over 2 million disks in stock. > Whether or not that's true, it's quite a store. In any case I was > chatting with Doug Allen, the owner, and he brought up that question. > If anyone can show him a pre-recorded wire, whatever the price, he'll > buy it. > > Gary Tayman > > (Gee, with google Groups I'll have to make up a new tagline.) > > How about, 78's & 45's? > Article: 331936 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Re: Bill Turner? Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:24:16 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1143340537.208541.165330@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <13892-442694DE-753@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> <445e22dgnt983cmf1t3qbmgvlt2r25id36@4ax.com> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 17:58:54 -0500, " Uncle Peter" wrote: > >"John Bachman" wrote in message >news:445e22dgnt983cmf1t3qbmgvlt2r25id36@4ax.com... >> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 07:19:26 -0600, dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) >> >supply company. >> >> Anyone who says that dialcovers are easy is either a lier or a >> magician. >> >> John > > >John > >do you have the molds made for the RCA 5T tombstone? > Not yet. Send me a sketch and I will do one. AnaTek Corporation, P. O. Box 1200, Amherst, NH 03031. John Article: 331937 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Re: Dialcover URL correction Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:26:08 -0500 Message-ID: References: <15720-4425F912-692@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1143340537.208541.165330@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 19:07:46 -0700, Bill Jeffrey wrote: >"Whoops! 404 Error" on this link. 'Sup, dude? > The correct URL is www.anatekcorp.com/dialcovers/dialcovers.htm Article: 331938 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" Subject: Problem IFTs Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:34:36 GMT What years were these I.F. Transformers that suffer from silver migration used? I have traced them back to around 1955 in GEs. How late were they used? It seems that if I don't remove or disable the internal capacitance they are noisy or unstable. My eyes are giving me trouble (diabetic side effect) and re-doing them is getting to be hard for me. Can't see those fine wires anymore. I'd like to know what years or makes to beware of or at least when I am taking a chance on having to deal with it. Ray Article: 331939 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Carter, K8VT" Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44275AF7.1F0D8AC7@earthlink.net> <38JVf.15007$%d.14860@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:51:17 GMT Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> BTW: DSL is an acronym for "Dammed Sorry Liars"! > > Reminds me of ISDN, "Inovations Subscribers Don't Need." > (Compliments of Phil Karn while he was working at Belcore.) > > Jeff Gee, at Michigan Bell (Ameritech/SBC/AT&T) ISDN was ... Marketing Department: (I) (S)mell (D)ollars (N)ow Engineering Department: (I)t (S)till (D)oes (N)othing Carter Article: 331940 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:08:50 -0500 Message-ID: <122fov3si9dt59c@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1143423377.311959.90140@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <442745dc$0$3679$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <4427474e$0$3684$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <122f3o9n63rms4c@corp.supernews.com> "- exray -" wrote in message news:122f3o9n63rms4c@corp.supernews.com... AOL isn't NASA. > I don't know what you are talking about AOL spyware...I think you are > parroting through your hat based on a bunch of old 'lore'. It's great having you here, Bill, you're SO quick on the trigger you make me look kind. Several techs who do nothing but troubleshoot computers all day for their whole lives (including friends of yours) have told me repeatedly that AOL as well as their Netscape browser reports every site visited and other data back to AOL constantly. That's why they run so SLOOOW- too busy calling mama to listen to you. Half the processor power is devoted to spying at some points.. This is something that seems reasonable and logical given the nature of the beast. John H. Article: 331941 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: AC line drop resistor Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:08:14 -0700 Message-ID: <2532-4427F1CE-1271@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> References: <122f5mg9abtcc39@corp.supernews.com> Bill how much for one of those resistors Article: 331942 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Problem IFTs Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:23:26 -0400 Message-ID: <122ftb1d0afls21@corp.supernews.com> References: Rune wrote: > What years were these I.F. Transformers that suffer from silver migration > used? I have traced them back to around 1955 in GEs. How late were they > used? > > It seems that if I don't remove or disable the internal capacitance they are > noisy or unstable. > > My eyes are giving me trouble (diabetic side effect) and re-doing them is > getting to be hard for me. Can't see those fine wires anymore. I'd like to > know what years or makes to beware of or at least when I am taking a chance > on having to deal with it. > > Ray > > Basically any late model xfmr that has slug-tuning is prone to silver migration. Even the large-sized ones that Zenith used in the late 40s commonly exhibit the problem. Doesn't seem to be brand specific...even old boatanchors like some 1950s Hallicrafters have the problem. -Bill Article: 331943 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:25:25 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1143407937.165438.38960@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <193e22lbiodl9l0kqi4ctqi0917nc8g2f8@4ax.com> <1143414372.198114.274310@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFVf.4611$FD4.79@dukeread07> <122edo8ahmpjl27@corp.supernews.com> <1143422068.592230.324940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <122eh3ipn2jqj61@corp.supernews.com> <1143426261.406308.214060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <122f2c8nbtv1g72@corp.supernews.com> <442797AC.72C50D92@earthlink.net> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:45:13 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >- exray - wrote: >> >> Does Limbaugh sound any better on digital AM than regular AM? > > He sounds the best when the radio is off. He'd even sound better in Federal prison for drug racketeering. Why that hasn't happened yet, I have no clue, other than he has a phalanx of right wing crank lawyers that he keeps flush with money. Article: 331944 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 10:28:27 -0400 Message-ID: <122ftkenb246q2e@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1143423377.311959.90140@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <442745dc$0$3679$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <4427474e$0$3684$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <122f3o9n63rms4c@corp.supernews.com> <122fov3si9dt59c@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > "- exray -" wrote in message > news:122f3o9n63rms4c@corp.supernews.com... > AOL isn't NASA. > >>I don't know what you are talking about AOL spyware...I think you are >>parroting through your hat based on a bunch of old 'lore'. > > > It's great having you here, Bill, you're SO quick on the trigger you make me > look kind. > > Several techs who do nothing but troubleshoot computers all day for their > whole lives (including friends of yours) have told me repeatedly that AOL as > well as their Netscape browser reports every site visited and other data > back to AOL constantly. That's why they run so SLOOOW- too busy calling mama > to listen to you. Half the processor power is devoted to spying at some > points.. This is something that seems reasonable and logical given the > nature of the beast. > > John H. > > They say that because they dislike AOL and apparently Netscape too. "Half the processor power" ? I don't think so. :) -Bill Article: 331945 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:49:40 -0800 Message-ID: <2ftf229c2i1rbplko5bhn1qjpl68f8v1gh@4ax.com> References: <1143407937.165438.38960@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <193e22lbiodl9l0kqi4ctqi0917nc8g2f8@4ax.com> <1143414372.198114.274310@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFVf.4611$FD4.79@dukeread07> <122edo8ahmpjl27@corp.supernews.com> <1143422068.592230.324940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <122eh3ipn2jqj61@corp.supernews.com> <1143426261.406308.214060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <122f2c8nbtv1g72@corp.supernews.com> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 02:43:17 -0400, - exray - wrote: >Yes, it was said, but 20 years after FM 'hit' the market where I lived >in Charlotte...not a small market even back then. In the late 60s we >had 4 FM stations. Three were simulcasts from AM and one was from the >Carolina School of Broadcasting and had about 2 mile radius and jokers >trying to read labels off of classical LPs. In those days (late 60s) in >that market FM was a novelty thing. Maybe in the backwaters of the south that was so, but by the mid-'50s out here, FM was THE thing for hi-fi and music wags for home listening. FM/AM simulcast stereo was the big deal, such as it was, until MPX became standardized. However, despite the popularity of the "new" FM band (not to be confused with the "old" FM band further down the spectrum pioneered by Major Armstrong in the '30s) AM was still the "pop 'n personality" medium of choice, as well as the only choice for car entertainment. The super hot top 40 format devised by Drake-Chenault in the '60s spread across the country on RKO stations like wildfire, while older-oriented personalities like Dick Whittinghill held sway over massive audiences. AM started dying the second the new AM/FM receivers started hitting the lower price brackets in the very early '70s. Around 1968, AOR rock stations started popping up on FM, as well as oldies-all-the-time (KRTH, the old KHJ-FM still holds sway in Los Angeles in that format) and OEM AM/FM car radios, along with an ever-increasing influx of aftermarket sets, started diluting the growth in AM audiences by that time. By 1975, it was pretty much over for AM...card prices started tumbling like a rock, and Top 40 moved to FM along with all the other formats already over there. Further killing AM for music in the '60s was the proliferation of 4- and 8-track, and later cassette, tape players. Ten years later, the big city AM band, fueled by very low card prices for ad time, became pretty much what they are today...one or two powerhouse all-news stations, many more havens for right wing cranks, spanish programming, religious nutter programming...and very little else. > >Obviously, twenty years of magazine articles declaring AM as dead >because of FM didn't pan out where I was. It took *thirty* years to >kill local AM and it was really distinct programming that drove the >change, not the technology. Thats not happening with AM radio's >aspirations nowadays. What are they hoping to sell to the listener? >Does Limbaugh sound any better on digital AM than regular AM? "HD-AM" doesn't help talk radio at all, and rather, hurts it, due to lower signal robustness. Who they hell wants to hear those blowhards in "digital clarity," anyway? They're insufferable enough in badly modulated AM. What else IS there? The AM stereo mess, killed by a RayGun "free market" FCC, tanked AM forever as a music medium, leaving it to the dregs of broadcasting, politically spun talk radio. As Arbitron found out, listeners to such programming are notoriously tiny spenders, and the Hispanic market's even cheaper. "Old-time" radio formats have been tried, including big band and reruns of comedies and dramas from the "golden age." All tanked, except for KNX, who still runs an hour of "golden age" programming every week, a lot of it originally produced in the Columbia Square CBS studios on Sunset Blvd...now doomed to the wrecking ball, thanks to Viacom management. Now that Viacom's Infinty has forced KNX general manager George Nikelaw into retirement, "the Square" is going to be history, and the West Coast's premier news radio station (and one of the few remaining full time CBS network stations) will probably be wrecked in favor of more right wing talk garbage or "shock talk," as has become staple for former great competitor, KFI. Infinity thinks that "real news" is too expensive. Article: 331946 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jack Webster" Subject: FM Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:51:45 -0700 Message-ID: <4427fb3f$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net> WTB 1945 am-fm radio - console perfered but will look at others thx jtr@oanet.com Article: 331947 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: AC line drop resistor Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:03:01 -0400 Message-ID: <122fvl7c1qal995@corp.supernews.com> References: <122f5mg9abtcc39@corp.supernews.com> <2532-4427F1CE-1271@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> Ken G. wrote: > Bill how much for one of those resistors > No charge, bud. -Bill Article: 331948 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: AC line drop resistor From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <122f5mg9abtcc39@corp.supernews.com> <2532-4427F1CE-1271@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> <122fvl7c1qal995@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:22:26 GMT In article <122fvl7c1qal995@corp.supernews.com>, exray@coqui.net says... > > >Ken G. wrote: > I use resistors on most of the old radios... In higher tube count radios I tend to use Boost Buck transformers ... less heat and less cost if you get them priced right... Surplus Electronics Stores.. they have all sorts of these transformers... usually TWO BUCKS or THREE BUCKS each ... 6,9,10,12,15,18,20,24 volt ones... 2 amps more than enough for any of the old radios we work on... I get them locally here in Orlando, FL from Skycraft Surplus ... http://www.skycraftsurplus.com/ John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331949 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FM From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <4427fb3f$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net> Message-ID: <%wTVf.109802$g47.91784@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 15:28:59 GMT In article <4427fb3f$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net>, jtr@oanet.com says... > > >WTB 1945 am-fm radio - console perfered but will look at others thx >jtr@oanet.com > > Lots of us have stuff like this... probably most important would be your location.. as shipping would be a larger number than the actual price of the radios... John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331950 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:53:28 -0800 Message-ID: <7i2g22thulh4g3jttg9lap44137eaj1vge@4ax.com> References: <193e22lbiodl9l0kqi4ctqi0917nc8g2f8@4ax.com> <1143414372.198114.274310@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFVf.4611$FD4.79@dukeread07> <122edo8ahmpjl27@corp.supernews.com> <1143422068.592230.324940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <122eh3ipn2jqj61@corp.supernews.com> <1143426261.406308.214060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <122f2c8nbtv1g72@corp.supernews.com> <2ftf229c2i1rbplko5bhn1qjpl68f8v1gh@4ax.com> <1143472400.958170.266640@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 27 Mar 2006 07:13:21 -0800, "CAINE" wrote: >http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=Ohn2FRMAAADKWt-YFW4KG3QbhQogR222h-kUg4S0n7nbF1Te82ZIng > > >you posted until 1:35 AM- and popped right back in at 9:30 AM this >morning- now you'll post until 2 AM tonite again Dear idiot: Please go back to grade school and learn the definitions of "time zones" and "standard time." By the way...I'd take a sedative. It's not going to be a very pleasant week for you. Article: 331951 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: newsgroup reader? OT but necessary From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:09:42 GMT In article , newton5@remove.comcast.net says... > > > i'll secong the vote for Mozilla Thunderbird. Question here about newsreaders. When I am in Indiana I use a different ISP than here in FL.... I always have to reconfigure the blasted newsreader. So .. the question is... does this Mozilla Thunderbird have two set ups in it... so I can just switch rather than having to remember how to reconfigure the damned thing? John k9uwa Article: 331952 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: Philco Mystery Control References: <5IHVf.468$up2.464@fed1read07> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 09:10:11 -0700 Et voila, c'est la. Thanks, Phil and Jim. Bill ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ jim menning wrote: > "Bill Jeffrey" wrote in message > news:5IHVf.468$up2.464@fed1read07... > >>OK, so I finally got myself a nice example of a Philco Mystery Control. Battery and >>tube are present, dial turns smoothly without binding, case is a bit better than >>OK, station tabs and their plastic covers are all present. I thought I would check >>out the schematic in Riders, but either I don't know the Philco "model" as indexed >>in Riders, or it isn't there. I know, it is a simple circuit and I could trace it >>out myself - but I would have thought it would be right there. Any help or >>suggestions? What am I missing? >> >>Thanks >> >>Bill Jeffrey > > > At nostalgiaair.org you look under Philco then scroll down to the alphabetized model > numbers until you reach "Mystery Control". Riders lumped it in with Philco 39-55 > radios, the basic AM set that used the remote. > > http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/073/M0014073.pdf > > jim menning Article: 331953 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: newsgroup reader? OT but necessary Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:39:52 GMT You can create as many accounts as you need with Thunderbird (and most other newsreaders as well). Each account can have its own server settings, etc. Go to "Tools" and then "Account settings", and then click on "Add Account". Use whichever one is appropriate for where you are at the time. -- Mike Schultz "John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird" wrote in message news:a7UVf.109811$g47.41259@tornado.tampabay.rr.com... > In article , > newton5@remove.comcast.net says... >> >> >> i'll secong the vote for Mozilla Thunderbird. > > > Question here about newsreaders. When I am in Indiana I use a different > ISP > than here in FL.... I always have to reconfigure the blasted newsreader. > > So .. the question is... does this Mozilla Thunderbird have two set ups > in it... so I can just switch rather than having to remember how to > reconfigure the damned thing? > > John k9uwa > Article: 331954 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 08:40:30 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1143414372.198114.274310@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5cFVf.4611$FD4.79@dukeread07> <122edo8ahmpjl27@corp.supernews.com> <1143422068.592230.324940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <122eh3ipn2jqj61@corp.supernews.com> <1143426261.406308.214060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <122f2c8nbtv1g72@corp.supernews.com> <442797AC.72C50D92@earthlink.net> <1143472746.402692.282660@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 27 Mar 2006 07:19:06 -0800, "CAINE" wrote: >why hasn't that happened ? because he's too powerful for you to touch, >that's why > >don't you know how this country works ? > >autos- In decline >oil- All gone...wasted. >airplanes- In a tought fight with Airbus, almost went down the tubes...only one manufacturer left standing...Boeing. >military hardware Lockheed-Martin, and their JSF AND F-22 programs are in deep shit. >that is the power base of the >conservatives- ...and it's falling apart. > the money made producing those items, goes towards >electing the next conservative president- that's who contributes and >pays the bills Even Pat Buchana said Saturday, "If it's a referendum on Bush, the Republicans are WIPED OUT." Wake up and smell reality, you deluded nutbag moron. >even liberals have to buy cars and gas- we win no matter what- so your >the tax money goes right back into the mil-industrial complex, to the >military hardware makers to arm the services, then those profits get >"donated" to the Rep. party. A nice closed loop. ...and exactly what the last honest Republican, Eisenhower, warned us about, and the only honest Republican left now, McCain, also warns us about. >you have no chance- Clinton's 2 wins were a fluke, and once the powers >that be told Perot to sit down, (and in spite of his billions he did, >and quickly)- now the Reps. rule. Both Houses in November: Democratic. You lose. > Without a split ticket on the Rep. >side, we will have a Rep. president- indefinitely. More deluded thinking that'll win the Dems the midterms and '08.. >Esp. now that we have Fox news, and a chokehold on AM radio 12 hours a >day, 5 days a week. Faux News' radio audience is a pittance. Even Air America is catching up to them in market share. >live with it- you're toast > >next target- your pension Nope...safe and secure, despite Bush Bird's attempts to let corporate goons get at it. Next target: Right wing gun nuts who flout the law...as you'll find out this week. You're in for a BUMPY week. Article: 331955 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: newsgroup reader? OT but necessary References: Message-ID: <2hVVf.11375$WK1.5613@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:28:30 GMT Mike Schultz wrote: > You can create as many accounts as you need with Thunderbird (and most other > newsreaders as well). Each account can have its own server settings, etc. > Go to "Tools" and then "Account settings", and then click on "Add Account". > Use whichever one is appropriate for where you are at the time. As an addition to that, I'd suggest going one step further. Set up your laptop (I assume it's a laptop) for two different users. John-home and John-snowbird, for example. Then when you log into your computer at startup, everything is already to go. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 331956 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Once Owned by Al Jolson Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:59:49 -0500 Message-ID: <122gdh85ntmip5c@corp.supernews.com> "Blackface Zenith" is a term that is spreading- http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Zenith-Floor-Model-Radio-Phonograph-7S682_W0QQitemZ6617420439 John H. Article: 331957 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Proper use of sanding sealer on radio cabinet Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:19:06 -0500 Message-ID: <122gelcgv56264e@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143399497.847829.286040@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1143406632.389912.270670@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> See "Understanding Wood Finishing" by Bob Flexner. I must contradict everything above. I have posted and documented extensively here and on the Forum that sanding sealer is simply lacquer with metallic soaps added. The result is a soft easily sanded coating that will *decrease* durability and must *never* be used as a thick coating. One can get away with a few light coats vigorously sanded. Also, said metallic soap adds nothing to the 'sealing" properties of the lacquer. http://www.woodweb.com/knowledge_base/Lacquer_without_sealer.html Vinyl sealers are a different matter (they do have a purpose) but are hard to find and almost never what is being discussed when people say sanding sealer. A coat or two DOES make the wood fibers poke up and sand down nicely. I wonder if they're just a big joke the paint companies are still laughing about- I say save your money and use shellac or regular lacquer for a sealer. I have successfully, for dozens and dozens of sets. Keep the metallic soaps where they belong- in the sandpaper ala stearated "no clog" sandpaper. http://groups.google.com/group/rec.woodworking/browse_thread/thread/df4e6933cdc4489d/a7bb250b0cf2ce89%23a7bb250b0cf2ce89 John H. Article: 331958 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <122gdh85ntmip5c@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Once Owned by Al Jolson Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:21:47 GMT "Hagstar" wrote in message news:122gdh85ntmip5c@corp.supernews.com... > "Blackface Zenith" is a term that is spreading- > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Zenith-Floor-Model-Radio-Phonograph-7S682_W0QQitemZ6617420439 > > John H. > "and you will need two people to lift this large piece of furniture"... Not likely. I could toss that one in the dumpster easily all by myself. jim menning Article: 331959 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Proper use of sanding sealer on radio cabinet Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:27:00 -0500 Message-ID: <122gf46cmrhu4be@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143399497.847829.286040@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1143416729.148311.106060@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Engineer" wrote in message news:1143416729.148311.106060@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > The front was cheap > packing case wood that I could only paint as in the original That's called "toning lacquer"and wasn't paint. John H. Article: 331960 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Carter, K8VT" Subject: Re: Replacing power resistor in RCA 630TS TV References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:27:50 GMT Phil Nelson wrote: > I need to replace a power resistor in my RCA 630TS TV. It's an odd value -- > 1360 ohms/17 watt. > > On page 500 of the Mouser catalog I see an Ohmite adjustable vitreous enamel > power resistor. I haven't used this kind before. I'm hoping that I could > get, say the 1.5K/25 watt resistor and adjust it down to 1360 ohms. > > Yes? Yes! (as long as you can get it to physically fit). As an aside, do you know the tolerance of the original resistor and is it that critical? If you buy a new fixed 1500 ohm, +- 10% resistor, depending on the luck of the draw, it could be 1350 ohms. Conversely, if the old resistor is rated at 10%, it could be as high as 1496 ohms and still be in specs. If the application is critical, then the adjustable will work fine. Carter Article: 331961 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4428538E.473B9BCF@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1143423377.311959.90140@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <442745dc$0$3679$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <4427474e$0$3684$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <122f3o9n63rms4c@corp.supernews.com> <122fov3si9dt59c@corp.supernews.com> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:05:24 GMT Hagstar wrote: > > "- exray -" wrote in message > news:122f3o9n63rms4c@corp.supernews.com... > AOL isn't NASA. > > I don't know what you are talking about AOL spyware...I think you are > > parroting through your hat based on a bunch of old 'lore'. > > It's great having you here, Bill, you're SO quick on the trigger you make me > look kind. > > Several techs who do nothing but troubleshoot computers all day for their > whole lives (including friends of yours) have told me repeatedly that AOL as > well as their Netscape browser reports every site visited and other data > back to AOL constantly. That's why they run so SLOOOW- too busy calling mama > to listen to you. Half the processor power is devoted to spying at some > points.. This is something that seems reasonable and logical given the > nature of the beast. > > John H. Either they are lying to you, or they don't know what they are talking about. IE is more intrusive than Netscape, and if anything is using 50% of the CPU time there is some major drive activity going on. They are probably confusing spyware, worms, and trojans with installed software. I spend most of my time cleaning that crap out of the computers donated for my "Computers for disabled Veterans" program. Some have so much spyware that they will no longer boot. I have to stick the drive in another computer to clean the crap out of the drive, then put it back in the donated computer to finish the cleanup. Every program you install on a Windows computer has crap added to the registry file. The bigger the registry file gets, the slower the computer performs. Even when you "Uninstall" a program, most of the crap is left behind, either as a marker, or just because the programmers were too damn lazy to write proper uninstall files. I am looking at a program called "Brute Force Uninstaller" http://www.merijn.org/ that uses a script to completely remove every trace of a program from a hard drive. When I get better at writing scripts, I will build a set to remove the most often seen trash from a computer. It deletes all files and registry entries, and resets file associations to the original windows default settings. This way I can just put a disk into the CDROM drive, and let it chug away while I start the next computer. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331962 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:46:02 -0800 Message-ID: References: <122edo8ahmpjl27@corp.supernews.com> <1143422068.592230.324940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <122eh3ipn2jqj61@corp.supernews.com> <1143426261.406308.214060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <122f2c8nbtv1g72@corp.supernews.com> <442797AC.72C50D92@earthlink.net> <1143472746.402692.282660@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1143481053.341072.65390@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 27 Mar 2006 09:37:33 -0800, "CAINE" wrote: >just remember- every penny you spend on gas, puts more money in the >right wing war/political machine, to use against you Hey, Charlie Tardo....that's why I drive a car that gets 51 MPG or 33 MPG...my choice. What's that rusted out PottyTank you drive get? > >what else can make your car go, or heat your house ? Biodiesel and solar. I'm installing a southward facing bank of solar cells and a co-gen inverter next month. > >nothing- you're bent over a barrel- with no alternative to heat or >transportation Wrong again, 'tard boy. > >you're toast You're out of your mind...as usual. > >Limbaugh, O'Reilly, Savage and Hannity are laughing their balls off at >you ! No, we're laughing at them. Per the last four Arbitrons, Limpdick and "The Pervert" O'Reilly have lost as much as 40% of their share in the major markets. > You're on the wrong side of history, and because of dummies like >you, they make millions ! Not anymore. I'm going to start making power for Edison, and have possibly $10/mo power bills. I spend MAYBE $10 a month on biodiesel, less than that for regular gasoline. > >ta-ta ! See ya, fatso! Article: 331963 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:50:53 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1143423377.311959.90140@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <442745dc$0$3679$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <4427474e$0$3684$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <122f3o9n63rms4c@corp.supernews.com> <122fov3si9dt59c@corp.supernews.com> <4428538E.473B9BCF@earthlink.net> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:05:24 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >> Several techs who do nothing but troubleshoot computers all day for their >> whole lives ...making about $7 and hour... > Either they are lying to you, or they don't know what they are >talking about. I'll vote for the latter. > IE is more intrusive than Netscape, and if anything is >using 50% of the CPU time there is some major drive activity going on. WAY more. IE is a cookie/worm magnet. >They are probably confusing spyware, worms, and trojans with installed >software. I spend most of my time cleaning that crap out of the >computers donated for my "Computers for disabled Veterans" program. >Some have so much spyware that they will no longer boot. I have to stick >the drive in another computer to clean the crap out of the drive, then >put it back in the donated computer to finish the cleanup. Been there, done that. The worst are computers formerly had by kids...LOADED with worms, spyware, bot clients...you name it. They're too stupid to maintain it, and when it craps, they just get Mommy to run down to Wally-Fart to buy another overpriced pizza chit. > > Every program you install on a Windows computer has crap added to the >registry file. The bigger the registry file gets, the slower the >computer performs. Even when you "Uninstall" a program, most of the >crap is left behind, either as a marker, or just because the programmers >were too damn lazy to write proper uninstall files. That's why I use Registry First Aid anytime I do an uninstall. ALL software leaves registry artifacts behind, or worse, like Real Networks. They crap they cram into your registry is obscene. > > I am looking at a program called "Brute Force Uninstaller" >http://www.merijn.org/ that uses a script to completely remove every >trace of a program from a hard drive. When I get better at writing >scripts, I will build a set to remove the most often seen trash from a >computer. It deletes all files and registry entries, and resets file >associations to the original windows default settings. This way I can >just put a disk into the CDROM drive, and let it chug away while I start >the next computer. I'd just reinstall the OS after repartitioning and formatting. Takes about the same amount of time, and gets rid of all the crapola. Thanks for doing your part to help other vets, as all good Americans should. Article: 331964 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:51:51 -0800 Message-ID: References: <5cFVf.4611$FD4.79@dukeread07> <122edo8ahmpjl27@corp.supernews.com> <1143422068.592230.324940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <122eh3ipn2jqj61@corp.supernews.com> <1143426261.406308.214060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <122f2c8nbtv1g72@corp.supernews.com> <2ftf229c2i1rbplko5bhn1qjpl68f8v1gh@4ax.com> <1143472400.958170.266640@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7i2g22thulh4g3jttg9lap44137eaj1vge@4ax.com> <1143482047.635312.23140@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 27 Mar 2006 09:54:07 -0800, "CAINE" wrote: >time zones have nothing to do with it- It's Charlie Nudo, the fat little ginzo from Drums, PA again. You're approaching plonkability again, Noodles. It's almost over. Article: 331965 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 13:52:26 -0800 Message-ID: <0kng22143l9g08hfsqdrmp7v3q3id08onc@4ax.com> References: <5cFVf.4611$FD4.79@dukeread07> <122edo8ahmpjl27@corp.supernews.com> <1143422068.592230.324940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <122eh3ipn2jqj61@corp.supernews.com> <1143426261.406308.214060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <122f2c8nbtv1g72@corp.supernews.com> <2ftf229c2i1rbplko5bhn1qjpl68f8v1gh@4ax.com> <1143472400.958170.266640@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7i2g22thulh4g3jttg9lap44137eaj1vge@4ax.com> <1143482210.187419.172130@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 27 Mar 2006 09:56:50 -0800, "CAINE" wrote: >so you've been saying...for 2 years now... > >whatever you throw at me, will come back at you- with twice the force I bet you were thinking that when your eBay account hit the skids, weren't you? I don't care anymore...I'm DONE with that mess. Article: 331966 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Can Anyone Identify This Truetone? Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:02:38 -0500 Message-ID: <122go816rf3ij85@corp.supernews.com> Bought at Charlotte with bad poly job, has a 6 tube plus eye chassis that is 120AC/32 volt DC switchable. No model number visible, suspect grill cloth is wrong :) It has a "Radio Products Corp." tag on chassis. Thanks for any leads, John H. Article: 331967 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44275AF7.1F0D8AC7@earthlink.net> <38JVf.15007$%d.14860@tornado.socal.rr.com> Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:49:38 -0500 "Carter, K8VT" wrote in message news:VkQVf.9530$tN3.4993@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > Jeffrey D Angus wrote: >> >> >> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>> BTW: DSL is an acronym for "Dammed Sorry Liars"! >> >> Reminds me of ISDN, "Inovations Subscribers Don't Need." >> (Compliments of Phil Karn while he was working at Belcore.) >> >> Jeff > > Gee, at Michigan Bell (Ameritech/SBC/AT&T) ISDN was ... > > Marketing Department: (I) (S)mell (D)ollars (N)ow > > Engineering Department: (I)t (S)till (D)oes (N)othing > > Carter I still think that TWAIN is the coolest acronym: "Technology Without An Interesting Name". Article: 331968 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Can Anyone Identify This Truetone? LINK Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:21:18 -0500 Message-ID: <122gpb06h6vrj2a@corp.supernews.com> References: <122go816rf3ij85@corp.supernews.com> See binaries- thanks! Also- http://antiqueradios.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=temp&id=UnknownTruetone1 John H. Article: 331969 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" Subject: Airline Movie Dial with Motor Drive? Message-ID: <8BZVf.38$ST4.28@fe04.lga> Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:22:38 -0500 I have completed restoration of my Airline 62-321 Movie Dial console (Wells-Gardner 24 Series A2 Chassis). I noticed in Riders there is an extensive section on REMOVING the motor drive unit and substituting a conventional push-button tuner with adjustable coils. My radio shows the marks that the conversion has been done, i.e. it appears to have had the motor drive at one time in the past. Mine is the 11 tube version. Does anyone know WHY this was done? Did the motor drive not work properly? Does anyone have an Airline with the motor drive intact, and if so, does it work? I also now know why there was no general agreement on this group about what projection lamp was appropriate for the Airline Movie Dial. I have two examples: the 62-321 console is a DIRECT PROJECTION unit, where the lamp is centered on the glass - this uses a type 81 (both the original 81 and the spare are in place - and the original cannot be removed from the socket due to pot metal distortion). My other set, a 6-volt set, places the projection assembly at the front and is then reflected back onto the screen using a mirror. This one uses a much larger 6-8 volt 1.3 amp auto type bulb. Dave Article: 331970 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Can Anyone Identify This Truetone? LINK Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 17:26:51 -0500 Message-ID: <122gpldaujs7u39@corp.supernews.com> References: <122go816rf3ij85@corp.supernews.com> <122gpb06h6vrj2a@corp.supernews.com> Sorry, it's a model 7A, found this faintly on the chassis once the sun hit it. John H. Article: 331971 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Can Anyone Identify This Truetone? LINK Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:46:57 -0400 Message-ID: <122gqr3lvfrf01a@corp.supernews.com> References: <122go816rf3ij85@corp.supernews.com> <122gpb06h6vrj2a@corp.supernews.com> <122gpldaujs7u39@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > Sorry, it's a model 7A, found this faintly on the chassis once the sun hit > it. > > John H. > > That will probably be the RPC chassis number...but you probably knew that. -Bill Article: 331972 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave Fase" References: <0rt122toblsbm1207nkvbdk5lfebc7t4ea@4ax.com> Subject: Re: for those who may collect calculators, FA: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 14:49:54 -0800 Hello all. Following is a bit wordy, but hopefully answers the question posted below. Eldorado, a privately held company, went bankrupt in about mid `74. The calculator business was a good part of the reason for the company's demise. The business also had a small line of some of the best counter- timers and "nanosecond timers" available anywhere. Much of this was sold to the government. Mini computers, (big as a washing machine), and memory systems were also developed and marketed. The calculator business started with the model 8C which was about the size of a two high computer keyboard. Original MSRP for this 4 funtion 8 digit calc was $349.00 in the early `70's. Early 8K machines utilized an "un-buffered" TI chipset. Needless to say, some shuffling across the office or home carpet would kill the chipset. Buffered chipsets weren't employed until many thousands of the model were shipped with house and other brand names (such as Addmaster, Sears and Roebuck, Marchand, Tax Corp of America, and many others...) emblazoning that little piece of foil below the readout window. S.S. Kreske (sp?) bought a majority of the 8K's, on which we affixed their K-Mart name. K-Mart units sold like hotcakes near the end due to their $40.00 sales pricing. This price was about one half of our construction and boxing price, and about a third of our MSRP of $129.95. Needless to say, with a one year warranty, thousands of un-buffered sets were returned, lawsuits and counter-suits were initiated, and the end of a good company was on the horizon. I was recruited from Systron-Donner across town in early `73 as Eldorado's "National Service Manager". I thought I'd been in a pressure cooker at SD, but the move was like tossing a live lobster (me) into a pot of boiling water. My department was faced with the repair and return (most often warranty) of up to 350 calculators a day. Techs numbered 18 plus a few more part-timers, plus several contract service stations world-wide. The company comptroller hated to see me come through his door, because most repairs were simply replacing the chip set or the entire mother board. My department was simply a finger in the dike, so to speak. Near the end, a model 12K (had a few scientific type features) calculator, plus a few handhelds were developed. None of these sold very well. Also manufactured was a neat little seventies style clock, one of which keeps time in my living room. After I bailed out, SD re-hired me to be part of their new "Service Division", located in the then ex Eldorado facility. Man, if those walls coulda talked! Dave Fase "William R. Walsh" wrote in message news:znoVf.883653$xm3.660153@attbi_s21... (Some snippage) > > I have an Eldorado Electrodata Director Two (now that's an impressive > name!) > on my desk at work. It just keeps on running, and has already outlived > several new Victor-branded printing calculators. I especially like how the > display doesn't blank when it is calculating. > > http://greyghost.dyndns.org/director2/ > > Anybody know what happened to Eldorado Electrodata? > > William > > Article: 331973 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: AC line drop resistor Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 18:41:11 -0500 Message-ID: <122gu0pim3p9r47@corp.supernews.com> References: <422-4426DE51-14@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Hush your mouth- Ken G. wouldn't run a midget-trannied Zenith unrecapped! That's like driving a 1984 Escort with no oil. John H. Article: 331974 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Wire recordings Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 01:46:21 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1143428207.154336.278590@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Rune wrote: > Even then the first tapes came from small companies. The major players > didn't get into it until the potential was proven and formats had shaken > out. (Mono had given way to stereo and stacked heads had won over > staggered.) > > When later formats came out manufacturers courted record companies so as to > have prerecorded material available before they introduced their lines. > 8-track, Playtape, etc. > > Now it's reversed. The record companies decide what formats will be > manufactured and offered to the public. The studio releases lead the > technology changes. Thanks for looking into future ... the one and only speed/format at this NG is ... 76cm/sec, mono ;-) Kind Regards Georg (Telefunken M5A, 19/38/76 mono) Article: 331975 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Pelham" References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:12:38 -0500 "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Just in case anyone has wondered where I've been for the past two > weeks, I've been totally stuck, and unable to access this or any > newsgroup. > > Shall I bore you with the details? Why not? > > I received an e-mail from Earthlink, advertising their Truevoice phone > system. Yes, you add DSL to your phone line, and what do you attach to > the DSL? A telephone! Really, it's a good deal because I get all my > long distance free, anywhere in the USA or Canada. So I called to > order. > > I was told my line is activated, and they will send me the hardware -- > great! So I hung up, and then went to check the RAR+P newsgroup -- and > suddenly I could no longer access the newsgroups! > > A phone call to Earthlink Support got me nowhere ... I attempted to switch to Earthlink DSL way back in (I think) 2000. This was right about the time they were absorbing MindSpring. After I placed the order, it took a couple of months to get any action from the company at all. Then when a local phone truck showed up in my driveway, his work order was to _remove_ DSL from my location, not install it. He said he couldn't install it if his work order said to remove it. He drove off. Later that day, my phone went dead. A couple days later I had a working phone again. After a couple more weeks, I had received the proper visits from the proper people and I had a DSL modem installed. The tech left, pronouncing it working. Unfortunately, it didn't work well; it was slow and intermittent all the time. E-mails to Earthlink tech support were all unanswered. Phone calls to tech support were frustrating, time wasting, and unproductive. I soon noticed that my credit card was being billed for DSL service. I wouldn't tolerate being billed for a service that I wasn't using because it wasn't working. E-mails to Earthlink's accounting dept. went unanswered. Phone calls to accounting got me promises, but the bill came again the next month, and the next. Thank goodness I set up billing to a credit card. I forwarded my whole file to the credit card company and they did a chargeback to Earthlink and prevented them from charging me any further. To this day, I've never heard >from Earthlink about any of this. I still have their DSL modem in a box somewhere. I turned around and got DSL from another company; it worked fine right away and is still working fine now. John Pelham radiophile dot com Article: 331976 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <122gdh85ntmip5c@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Once Owned by Al Jolson Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 00:31:22 GMT Hi! > Not likely. I could toss that one in the dumpster easily all by myself. Why would you do that? (I personally think it is an okay looking radio.) And, quoting from the listing: > My brother-in-law plugged in the radio and it works!! > The light went on on the dial, and music played! Huh. A very dangerous/somewhat irresponsible thing to do, but why does this seem to be the case with Zenith radios? The Zenith radios I've picked up have played 'out of the box' so to speak. No others have done that. I may have asked before, but did Zenith just build a better radio? William Article: 331977 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bob Weiss Subject: Re: Replacing power resistor in RCA 630TS TV References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 01:21:21 GMT That's exactly what I have done on several of those sets.... Bob Weiss N2IXK Phil Nelson wrote: > I need to replace a power resistor in my RCA 630TS TV. It's an odd value -- > 1360 ohms/17 watt. > > On page 500 of the Mouser catalog I see an Ohmite adjustable vitreous enamel > power resistor. I haven't used this kind before. I'm hoping that I could > get, say the 1.5K/25 watt resistor and adjust it down to 1360 ohms. > > Yes? > > The alternative would be to connect three fixed resistors in series to > obtain that value, but that would take up a lot of space. > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > Article: 331978 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Once Owned by Al Jolson Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:24:02 -0500 Message-ID: <122h41k9743nj13@corp.supernews.com> References: <122gdh85ntmip5c@corp.supernews.com> "William R. Walsh" wrote in message news:ut%Vf.645797$084.203028@attbi_s22... > > > The Zenith radios I've picked up have played 'out of the box' so to speak. > No others have done that. > > Most of the REALLY scary crappy radios *I* buy work. And I avoid Zeniths unless cheap, meaning I don't have many. Just plugged the ratty Truetone 7A I posted about earlier and it works as is- really well in fact. John H. Article: 331979 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1143407937.165438.38960@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: HD RADIO WILL OUR TUBE RADIOS BE USABLE?? DX'ng? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 20:35:06 -0500 http://www.cbo.gov/showdoc.cfm?index=9&sequence=5 Here's a good, but long, discussion regarding FCC spectrum auctions. Pete Article: 331980 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:00:06 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1143423377.311959.90140@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <442745dc$0$3679$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <4427474e$0$3684$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <122f3o9n63rms4c@corp.supernews.com> <122fov3si9dt59c@corp.supernews.com> <122ftkenb246q2e@corp.supernews.com> In <122ftkenb246q2e@corp.supernews.com> - exray - writes: >Hagstar wrote: >> Several techs who do nothing but troubleshoot computers all day for their >> whole lives (including friends of yours) have told me repeatedly that AOL as >> well as their Netscape browser reports every site visited and other data >> back to AOL constantly. That's why they run so SLOOOW- too busy calling mama >> to listen to you. Half the processor power is devoted to spying at some >> points.. This is something that seems reasonable and logical given the >> nature of the beast. >They say that because they dislike AOL and apparently Netscape too. >"Half the processor power" ? I don't think so. Kee-rist. Fire up a packet sniffer & have a look. I use Ethereal; it's the oscilloscope of networking. Rumor-mongering about "spyware" and software reporting this-n-that is like saying "I don't know how many amps my radio is using, but I think it's doing something sneaky!" -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331981 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Airline Movie Dial with Motor Drive? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <8BZVf.38$ST4.28@fe04.lga> <1143511062.739895.263890@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:24:30 GMT In article <1143511062.739895.263890@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>, eb062559@aol.com says... > > >as far as i >know the 81 bulb is still available. i saw it somewhere on the net. >maybe radiodaze? > I bought a box of 10 bulbs from NAPA store here in Orlando, FL .. yes the guy had to order them... took 2 days to get the box... think it was $11.00 for the box of 10 bulbs .. I did two of the plain jane 11 tubers this winter... one for a customer and one for my own collection.. they were both the 62-308 style chassis ... mine goes into a table box.. John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331982 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: AC line drop resistor From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <122ebvsne125fca@corp.supernews.com> <420-44274780-297@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:19:37 GMT In article , jbyrns@rcn.com says... > > >That same 1 Amp trasnformer could supply an old radio that requires 1.1 >Amps if it is connected as an "autotransformer". The autotransformer >connection also helps keep the further from the saturation point. >John Byrns agree 100% with John on this one ... a few years ago I picked up a dozen autotransformers that were made just for this application 3 bucks each .. they had about 6 taps marked on a bakelite block from around 85 volts up to 132 volts ... so those you could put the line where you wanted it and pick off most any voltage you wanted... alas they didn't have any more of them.. John Article: 331983 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <122gdh85ntmip5c@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Once Owned by Al Jolson Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:32:37 -0500 "William R. Walsh" wrote in message news:ut%Vf.645797$084.203028@attbi_s22... > Hi! > > > Not likely. I could toss that one in the dumpster easily all by myself. > > Why would you do that? > > (I personally think it is an okay looking radio.) > Collectors pretty much shun post 1940 Zenith consoles with a vengence. You can't give them away. Pete Article: 331984 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <122gdh85ntmip5c@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Once Owned by Al Jolson Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 21:33:39 -0500 > > Collectors pretty much shun post 1940 Zenith consoles with a vengence. > You can't give them away. > > Pete > ESPECIALLY MODELS WITH A PHONOGRAPH STUCK IN THEIR BELLY! Article: 331985 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Once Owned by Al Jolson From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <122gdh85ntmip5c@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:55:41 GMT In article , jmenningSPAM@new.rr.com says... > > >Not likely. I could toss that one in the dumpster easily all by myself. > >jim menning > > just the cabinet... guts would make good parts radio John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331986 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1143509774.737234.163050@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:46:48 GMT In article <1143509774.737234.163050@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, gtayman@gate.net says... > > >I (and others) have the problem of web >hosting. If I jump to another provider, so does the website, and all >those links from hither and beyond will suddenly be no good. Yes, I >should be able to keep taymanelectrical.com, but the vast majority of >links are to the original www.gate.net/~gtayman. > >Gary Tayman I suffered a little from the above a few years ago... signed up for a real domain name and a real web storage facility .. and I kept my Concentric`k9uwa whatever website setup on my freebie ISP for about a year ... then I think it was Michael that gave me a script to install into the old site that did the redirect bit... left that all up and running for about another year... then dumped completely the dial up ISP service .... now I have no connection with the website or my email addy to any particular ISP ... the email is just a forwarding service available to all ARRL ham radio members ... John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331987 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: newsgroup reader? OT but necessary From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <2hVVf.11375$WK1.5613@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 02:51:01 GMT In article <2hVVf.11375$WK1.5613@tornado.socal.rr.com>, jangus@socal.rr.com says... > > >As an addition to that, I'd suggest going one step further. >Set up your laptop (I assume it's a laptop) for two different >users. John-home and John-snowbird, for example. >Then when you log into your computer at startup, everything is >already to go. > >Jeff have to seriously look at that situation ... yes laptop... and I use it at home once in a while... but usually only to transfer stuff into it from the main machine at home.... and back from this one into main machine.. mostly the email program and the thousands of saved email information .... its all in Pegasus mail ... John Article: 331988 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4428ABC9.D3F3BF1E@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44275AF7.1F0D8AC7@earthlink.net> <38JVf.15007$%d.14860@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 03:21:53 GMT Buck Frobisher wrote: > > "Carter, K8VT" wrote in message > news:VkQVf.9530$tN3.4993@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > > Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > >> > >> > >> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > >>> BTW: DSL is an acronym for "Dammed Sorry Liars"! > >> > >> Reminds me of ISDN, "Inovations Subscribers Don't Need." > >> (Compliments of Phil Karn while he was working at Belcore.) > >> > >> Jeff > > > > Gee, at Michigan Bell (Ameritech/SBC/AT&T) ISDN was ... > > > > Marketing Department: (I) (S)mell (D)ollars (N)ow > > > > Engineering Department: (I)t (S)till (D)oes (N)othing > > > > Carter > > I still think that TWAIN is the coolest acronym: "Technology Without An > Interesting Name". How about NBI? (N)othing (B)ut (I)nitials. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331989 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" Subject: Got Philco 39-40 PB's? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 03:23:51 GMT Hi all, Anybody got a set of pushbuttons in stock for a Philco 39-40 that they'd be willing to sell me? Larry is out of them right now and needs to make a new mold and the set's getting picked up in 2 weeks. Id love not to have the customer try and pull that chassis out again! Thanks, Keith Article: 331990 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: OT: free uniden EXR 2460 manual set - just pay postage Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:29:39 -0800 Message-ID: <17bh221osvb059pivm82e6lfd6kmfrac5b@4ax.com> the title says it all - aprox 50 cents postage - I've tossed the manuals in the box for recycling but it won't get picked up until Sunday - if you want it, contact me. also have some new, still sealed batteries for qualcom and kyocera cell phones - a dollar each - probably nicad Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 331991 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 03:31:20 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44275AF7.1F0D8AC7@earthlink.net> <38JVf.15007$%d.14860@tornado.socal.rr.com> <4428ABC9.D3F3BF1E@earthlink.net> In <4428ABC9.D3F3BF1E@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: > How about NBI? (N)othing (B)ut (I)nitials. That's a good TLA (Three Letter Acronym). -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331992 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: Re: for those who may collect calculators, FA: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 19:33:21 -0800 Message-ID: <7ibh221vddmi77tbf2g8eq82r1b956fsum@4ax.com> References: <0rt122toblsbm1207nkvbdk5lfebc7t4ea@4ax.com> well, so far, with a day to go, htere are no bids on the two calculators that started this rather interesting thread - it's amazing what you can learn now, will somebody buy those darned calculators from me so I can get rid of them...... Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 331993 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4428B076.6A9DF9BF@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1143423377.311959.90140@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <442745dc$0$3679$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <4427474e$0$3684$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <122f3o9n63rms4c@corp.supernews.com> <122fov3si9dt59c@corp.supernews.com> <4428538E.473B9BCF@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 03:41:56 GMT DeserTBoB wrote: > > I'd just reinstall the OS after repartitioning and formatting. Takes > about the same amount of time, and gets rid of all the crapola. I would, but if I do and then can't locate a driver, the computer becomes parts. Its amazing the number of motherboards over two years old that no longer have the drivers available online. I am trying to build a database of files by motherboard, but very few motherboards of the same type are seen again. Using a script to clean up the computer only requires one reboot, after you finish. They can also install any updates and register them at the same time. When I get far enough along all I will need to do is identify the operating system and version number, then run a single script. The same script should also be able to install the anti virus and anti spyware software form the shop's server so i don't have to inset a pile of CDROMs into every computer. I use a USB to Ethernet adapter on computers without a network card, or just shove a USB wireless network adapter in and connect to the server that way. > Thanks for doing your part to help other vets, as all good Americans > should. I'm a disabled Veteran myself, and I needed something to keep busy so I decided to help other Veterans at the same time. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331994 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4428B1D3.72CF405B@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44275AF7.1F0D8AC7@earthlink.net> <38JVf.15007$%d.14860@tornado.socal.rr.com> <4428ABC9.D3F3BF1E@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 03:47:40 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > > In <4428ABC9.D3F3BF1E@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: > > > How about NBI? (N)othing (B)ut (I)nitials. > > That's a good TLA (Three Letter Acronym). Do you remember NBI? they made huge, expensive word processing systems with 8" floppy drives and Selectric or daisy wheel printers. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 331995 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Philco Mystery Control From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <5IHVf.468$up2.464@fed1read07> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 03:02:54 GMT In article <5IHVf.468$up2.464@fed1read07>, wjeffreyAT@alum.DOTmit.edu says... > > >suggestions? What am I missing? > > >Bill Jeffrey since your mystery control didn't come with your radio.. you will have to tune one or the other to get them to match up. If you happen to be a Ham Radio operator... and happen to have a slightly modified Ham Transmitter. Sending morse code dots at about 10-12 WPM while turning the frequency knob on the transmitter ... in the 400 Khz range... when you hit the right spot the receiver will begin operating the auto pushbutton assembly... then its a simple matter to quit sending dots .. leave Transceiver at same frequency ... and tweak the frequency control on your mystery control till you hear the dits in the receiver ... after you get it to work a little.. then to set the mystery control on a chair or something so it is stationary and begin backing it away >from the philco receiver until it quits making radio work.. then adjust the controls a little and try again.. pretty soon if you get it right you can get about 25 feet or so away from the radio and the remote still operates in nicely.. John k9uwa /w4 Article: 331996 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 04:14:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44275AF7.1F0D8AC7@earthlink.net> <38JVf.15007$%d.14860@tornado.socal.rr.com> <4428ABC9.D3F3BF1E@earthlink.net> <4428B1D3.72CF405B@earthlink.net> In <4428B1D3.72CF405B@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: > Do you remember NBI? they made huge, expensive word processing >systems with 8" floppy drives and Selectric or daisy wheel printers. Hmm. No, doesn't ring a bell. The daisy's I remember were Diablo, I think. Stand-alone printers. Damn, were they irritatingly loud! Not the good, wholesome, wipe-out-yer-hearing rattle and chunk of a chain printer, but a high-pitched zzzzing! Worse than any of the dot-matrix cheapies that replaced them. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 331997 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" Subject: Thanks to Bill Turner... Message-ID: Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 23:16:13 -0500 ...For offering me the opportunity to acquire a complete set of Radio Manufaturers of the 20ies by Alan Douglas. To be honest, when Bill offered the set here coupla weeks ago, I never thought he'd take my offer seriously (not from Syl). Especially after seeing Vol.2 going for incredible money on eBay (you know how eBay can be crazy sometimes). He emailed me the next day, saying the books were mine. I reminded him about eBay but he replied that he didn't care. Bill, Thanks a zillion. Rest assure, these books found a good home and I wanted you to know that I appreciate your gesture, well beyond the value of the books. Peace, Syl Article: 331998 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Thanks to Bill Turner... Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 05:03:42 GMT "Syl" wrote in message news:dM2Wf.27348$685.582638@wagner.videotron.net... > ...For offering me the opportunity to acquire a complete set of Radio Manufaturers > of the 20ies by Alan Douglas. > > To be honest, when Bill offered the set here coupla weeks ago, I never thought > he'd take my offer seriously (not from Syl). Especially after seeing Vol.2 going > for incredible > money on eBay (you know how eBay can be crazy sometimes). He emailed me the > next day, saying the books were mine. I reminded him about eBay but he replied that > he didn't care. > > Bill, > > Thanks a zillion. Rest assure, these books found a good home and I wanted you to > know that I appreciate > your gesture, well beyond the value of the books. > > Peace, > Syl > > Kudos to Bill. jim menning Article: 331999 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4428C2EB.BB1D4E0D@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: I'm still alive, but silenced thanks to Earthlink References: <1143419904.276335.96180@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44275AF7.1F0D8AC7@earthlink.net> <38JVf.15007$%d.14860@tornado.socal.rr.com> <4428ABC9.D3F3BF1E@earthlink.net> <4428B1D3.72CF405B@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 05:00:37 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > > In <4428B1D3.72CF405B@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: > > > Do you remember NBI? they made huge, expensive word processing > >systems with 8" floppy drives and Selectric or daisy wheel printers. > > Hmm. No, doesn't ring a bell. The daisy's I remember were Diablo, > I think. Stand-alone printers. Damn, were they irritatingly loud! > Not the good, wholesome, wipe-out-yer-hearing rattle and chunk of a > chain printer, but a high-pitched zzzzing! Worse than any of the > dot-matrix cheapies that replaced them. NBI was a big boy in word processing, till the cheap PC clones and Word Processing software came along and killed them, almost overnight. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 332000 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" Subject: Now THAT is authentic Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 05:19:06 GMT I'm at a loss for words. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6616778478 Article: 332001 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <122ftb1d0afls21@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Problem IFTs Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 05:22:20 GMT I figured it was across brand lines as they get parts from the same suppliers. I was just wondering when the sandwiched sheet and fingers above and below appeared in place of real caps. Ray "- exray -" wrote in message news:122ftb1d0afls21@corp.supernews.com... > Rune wrote: >> What years were these I.F. Transformers that suffer from silver migration >> used? I have traced them back to around 1955 in GEs. How late were they >> used? >> >> It seems that if I don't remove or disable the internal capacitance they >> are noisy or unstable. >> >> My eyes are giving me trouble (diabetic side effect) and re-doing them is >> getting to be hard for me. Can't see those fine wires anymore. I'd like >> to know what years or makes to beware of or at least when I am taking a >> chance on having to deal with it. >> >> Ray >> >> > Basically any late model xfmr that has slug-tuning is prone to silver > migration. Even the large-sized ones that Zenith used in the late 40s > commonly exhibit the problem. Doesn't seem to be brand specific...even > old boatanchors like some 1950s Hallicrafters have the problem. > > -Bill Article: 332002 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: FM Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:33:47 -0700 Message-ID: References: <4427fb3f$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:51:45 -0700, Jack Webster wrote: > WTB 1945 am-fm radio - console perfered but will look at others thx > jtr@oanet.com Just in case you don't know this, but the FM band changed shortly after the war. The earliest post-war sets won't receive the FM band we use now. Some sets were made that received both FM bands. And the later sets only receive the new band. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 332003 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" Subject: Probably OT: K-Mart 30-62 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 05:42:36 GMT Hello all... This is probably OT...it's a solid-state, plug-in-the-wall "Made In Hong Kong" AM set in a (cute) little white plastic case. There's absolutely nothing special about it...the only interesting thing is that is says "S.S. Kresge" on the back. (Yes, I know that is/was the parent of K-Mart.) It is new enough to contain transistors and a printboard, but old enough to have a printed schematic glued inside the back cover. Anyway, this little set plays surprisingly well. It has pretty good sensitivity and good clear volume...but that's the problem. Even at minimum volume, it's still way too loud. The volume control does have an effect, but it never makes the radio quiet short of turning it off. Any thoughts about what to do to fix it? William Article: 332004 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Replacing power resistor in RCA 630TS TV Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:44:52 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 11:02:45 -0800, Phil Nelson wrote: > I need to replace a power resistor in my RCA 630TS TV. It's an odd value -- > 1360 ohms/17 watt. > > On page 500 of the Mouser catalog I see an Ohmite adjustable vitreous enamel > power resistor. I haven't used this kind before. I'm hoping that I could > get, say the 1.5K/25 watt resistor and adjust it down to 1360 ohms. > > Yes? > > The alternative would be to connect three fixed resistors in series to > obtain that value, but that would take up a lot of space. > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html That will work fine as long as it fits. One thing to consider when using this type of resistor is that the power rating changes depending on how much of the resistor you use. So if the resistor is 5K at 25W, if you set it to 4K it will be 20W, 3K gives 15W, 2K gives 10W and 1K gives 5W. The power rating declines as you use less of the physical wire. Its a straight proportion. Another way to look at it is that the wire can carry a certain amount of current. Calculate that from the rated resistance and power. Then use this amount of current to calculate the new power rating at the new resistance. If you have current flowing in both sections (like a voltage divider), you have to consider the power in both sections. If you need multiple taps, extra bands are (or at least were) available. You can also salvage them >from other resistors. Be sure to loosen the screw holding the band when adjusting it. Otherwise you will break the resistance wire. And don't overtighten it. Good luck, -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 332005 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Now THAT is authentic References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 05:53:53 GMT Rune wrote: > I'm at a loss for words. It IS authentic. That's the original box right next to it. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 332006 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <1143399497.847829.286040@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1143416729.148311.106060@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <122gf46cmrhu4be@corp.supernews.com> <1143515573.366706.262890@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1143516799.627283.45270@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Proper use of sanding sealer on radio cabinet Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 06:10:24 GMT What about "Bull's-Eye" brand clear shellac as a sanding sealer? Two coats, gone over with 000 and 0000 steelwool? Omer "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1143516799.627283.45270@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > The websites listed above were not that conclusive. If anything, the > message I got was that there's as many opinions as....well everybody > has one. The one word of correction for my instruction would be to > limit sanding sealer to one coat. Then start applying top coats. > Shortly thereafter add the toner coat and then make sure it all gets a > lot of coats over it. > Article: 332007 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FM Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:46:17 -0800 Message-ID: <1gmh22p2hubsiba4chks6q75q67stsm6ee@4ax.com> References: <4427fb3f$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 22:33:47 -0700, Jim Mueller wrote: >On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 07:51:45 -0700, Jack Webster wrote: > >> WTB 1945 am-fm radio - console perfered but will look at others thx >> jtr@oanet.com > >Just in case you don't know this, but the FM band changed shortly after >the war. One of the FCC's earlier corporate-driven screwups. Major Armstrong's original FM band, down at 42-50 MHz, had about three times the reach of the current 100 MHz band at the same EIRP. The big AM networks, notably David Sarnoff's RCA, knew this, and didn't want the competition, and so greased the FCC to go along with shutting down the "old" band and open the "new" in order to accommodate the low end of the new VHF TV band. Had they not done that, the amount of programming available via DX would have been much larger that what was finally realized. Sarnoff pulled other dirty tricks against Armstrong, as well. I seem to remember he ripped off FM sound modulation from Armstrong and refused to pay him for it. I do remember there were Congressional hearings on the matter, but RCA's deep pockets greased the FCC successfully.. Article: 332008 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: Subject: Re: Now THAT is authentic Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:08:40 GMT Yep. All-American patriot radio Made In China. Ray "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:Rb4Wf.12394$WK1.5030@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > Rune wrote: > >> I'm at a loss for words. > > It IS authentic. That's the original box right next to it. > > Jeff > > -- > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 332009 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Transformer Issues or ?? References: <1143503792.823545.96260@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1143506538.961133.135880@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1143515503.184321.279410@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 07:41:50 -0500 Use an AC current meter with that variac, that way you can tell immediately there's a prob. .3 to .5 amps line I is normal for most. Ken RadioGary wrote: > Hey NS, > > Thanks for the advice. I did notice one tube was missing in the > chassis (big duhhh for me, huh?), but it's irrelivant to the problem I > believe. It's a receiver tube. Still you never know. I'll do that > shorting test in the meantime. > > Thanks, GB. > Article: 332010 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: What is best lubricant for phono motors Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 07:42:04 -0500 Message-ID: <122ibovc3b3h67d@corp.supernews.com> References: <00od22h2s9ddvadqorl43nmtt10g3mg9c4@4ax.com> <420-44274B9A-300@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> "Ken G." wrote in message news:420-44274B9A-300@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net... > the worst thing one can do is use motor oil. > > Ok .. i admit i dont know much about all the oils Neither did I- I guess the difference between us is now *I* will NEVER AGAIN ONCE mix these two types of oils. Because someone taught me just now how little I knew and now I realize everything I've been doing is wrong and I can learn something correct. You will do what you always have done-in this case gotten away with- no matter what because being wrong is just not possible or acceptable. Some folks eat donuts at every meal and smoke for years and years and live a long time- that doesn't prove donuts and cigarettes are good for you. John H. Article: 332011 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Proper use of sanding sealer on radio cabinet Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:10:16 -0500 Message-ID: <122iddstkctd658@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143399497.847829.286040@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1143406632.389912.270670@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <122gelcgv56264e@corp.supernews.com> Yes, sorry Aurora Radios to be fair the articles did point out some of the good things. I really don't think sealers are bad if not over used. They do have their place, especially vinyls. I just wouldn't bother for one or two radios. And exray I'm just dissing the SEALER not you. And for REALLY rough wood barn radios needing lots of sanding even I use them! John H. Article: 332013 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) Subject: Re: FM Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:24:17 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4427fb3f$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net> In article <1gmh22p2hubsiba4chks6q75q67stsm6ee@4ax.com>, desertb@rglobal.net wrote: > Sarnoff pulled other dirty tricks against > Armstrong, as well. I seem to remember he ripped off FM sound > modulation from Armstrong and refused to pay him for it. I do > remember there were Congressional hearings on the matter, but RCA's > deep pockets greased the FCC successfully. Hello, and whether "dirty tricks" is the correct word is a matter of perspective. There was no "ripoff" - Sarnoff provided the laboratory and funding that enabled Armstrong to develop an "indirect" FM system (phase modulation using the integral of the audio signal). Sarnoff and Armstrong had a very good employer/employee relationship early on. Sarnoff was always looking ahead in terms of technology. Many times RCA's board was upset with the percentage of profits Sarnoff was plowing back into R&D. Sarnoff worked the heck out of his engineers but I think you could say that of Thomas Edison's employees as well. My hunch, after reading Sarnoff's biography, is that Armstrong was not all that keen to participate in TV development and this is where Sarnoff wanted to start concentrating RCA's R&D efforts rather than just improving and promoting FM radio since RCA was already a highly successful producer of AM radios and had licensed many of its AM technology patents to other radio manufacturers. As he had once conceived the "radical" notion of commercially-sponsored broadcast radio, Sarnoff immediately grasped the potential of TV. Why bother expending resources building a national network of FM broadcast stations when they could be TV stations? Sarnoff might have reasoned: "Why not incorporate the fidelity and static/noise reduction provided by FM into TV sound and figure out a way to transmit both the video and audio within a prescribed bandwidth?" RCA demonstrated all-electronic B&W TV to the public-at-large at the 1939 New York World's Fair. Later on Sarnoff also backed the concept of all-electronic color TV (lots of RCA R&D bucks expended here) at a time when many thought that only an electromechanical approach was viable. Oh yeah, and it doesn't hurt that you already own a broadcast network (NBC) in order to deploy the latest in TV transmission technology. A lot of folks like to bash Sarnoff but there's always another side to every story. His story is classic Horatio Alger. Sincerely, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 Article: 332014 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: FM Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:56:15 -0400 Message-ID: <122ig42t715oo65@corp.supernews.com> References: <4427fb3f$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net> <1gmh22p2hubsiba4chks6q75q67stsm6ee@4ax.com> J. B. Wood wrote: > In article <1gmh22p2hubsiba4chks6q75q67stsm6ee@4ax.com>, > desertb@rglobal.net wrote: > > >>Sarnoff pulled other dirty tricks against >>Armstrong, as well. I seem to remember he ripped off FM sound >>modulation from Armstrong and refused to pay him for it. I do >>remember there were Congressional hearings on the matter, but RCA's >>deep pockets greased the FCC successfully. > > > Hello, and whether "dirty tricks" is the correct word is a matter of > perspective. The was no "ripoff" - Sarnoff provided the laboratory and > funding that enabled Armstrong to develop an "indirect" FM system Poor ole Armstrong had everything he ever invented ripped off to some degree going all the way back to the 1920s. And consequently he spent much of his time - and much of his money - fighting these cases, some of which were not resolved until many years after his death. Motorola "ripping off" his work was the last case to be resolved. I seem to recall...too lazy to look up the details...that the resolution of the RCA case in the mid-50s paid roughly the same amount to his estate that he had been offered (and declined) in 1940 - not counting inflation. I suppose "winning" and "vindication" means something but as I read Armstrong's life history I get the impression that his inflexibility (or naivete) in business was ultimately his undoing...much the case with many inventors. Article: 332015 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: lampbay Subject: FA: 4 days left! Vintage Sony STR-V55 FM Stereo Hi-Fi Receiver Tuner VG Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:43:12 -0600 Message-ID: FA: 4 days left! Vintage Sony STR-V55 FM Stereo Hi-Fi Receiver Tuner VG http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZlampbay *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 332016 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: lampbay Subject: FA: 4 days left! Vintage Sony TC-K77R Stereo Cassette Recorder Player VG Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:45:01 -0600 Message-ID: FA: 4 days left! Vintage Sony TC-K77R Stereo Cassette Recorder Player VG http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZlampbay *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 332017 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <8BZVf.38$ST4.28@fe04.lga> <1143511062.739895.263890@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1143536597.328012.270570@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Airline Movie Dial with Motor Drive? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:47:19 GMT "Dave" wrote in message news:1143536597.328012.270570@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > What is a moviedial > Google is your friend. Please get to know him. http://personalpages.tds.net/~jonarthr/airline_moviedial.htm jim menning Article: 332018 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: 4 days left! Vintage Sony TC-K77R Stereo Cassette Recorder Player VG Message-ID: <%ccWf.9569$b07.2715@trnddc05> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 15:01:15 GMT Are you going to spam us again when the auction is down to one day? -- Mike Schultz "lampbay" wrote in message news:yospam-AB197C.08450128032006@free.teranews.com... > FA: 4 days left! Vintage Sony TC-K77R Stereo Cassette Recorder Player VG > > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZlampbay > *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** > *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from > http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 332019 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FM Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 07:18:37 -0800 Message-ID: References: <4427fb3f$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 08:24:17 -0500, wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) wrote: >In article <1gmh22p2hubsiba4chks6q75q67stsm6ee@4ax.com>, >desertb@rglobal.net wrote: > >> Sarnoff pulled other dirty tricks against >> Armstrong, as well. I seem to remember he ripped off FM sound >> modulation from Armstrong and refused to pay him for it. I do >> remember there were Congressional hearings on the matter, but RCA's >> deep pockets greased the FCC successfully. > >Hello, and whether "dirty tricks" is the correct word is a matter of >perspective. There was no "ripoff" What's this...the stereo simulcast??? Article: 332020 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: What is best lubricant for phono motors Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 07:19:49 -0800 Message-ID: <60li22d36or0jpnkq6mf5455onqgo6jh50@4ax.com> References: <00od22h2s9ddvadqorl43nmtt10g3mg9c4@4ax.com> <420-44274B9A-300@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> <122ibovc3b3h67d@corp.supernews.com> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 07:42:04 -0500, "Hagstar" wrote: > >"Ken G." wrote in message >news:420-44274B9A-300@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net... >> the worst thing one can do is use motor oil. >> >> Ok .. i admit i dont know much about all the oils > >Neither did I- I guess the difference between us is now *I* will NEVER AGAIN >ONCE mix these two types of oils. Because someone taught me just now how >little I knew and now I realize everything I've been doing is wrong and I >can learn something correct. You will do what you always have done-in this >case gotten away with- no matter what because being wrong is just not >possible or acceptable. Some folks eat donuts at every meal and smoke for >years and years and live a long time- that doesn't prove donuts and >cigarettes are good for you. Words of wisdom, and you're welcome. Article: 332021 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) Subject: Re: FM Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:24:57 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4427fb3f$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net> <1gmh22p2hubsiba4chks6q75q67stsm6ee@4ax.com> <122ig42t715oo65@corp.supernews.com> In article <122ig42t715oo65@corp.supernews.com>, - exray - wrote: > I seem to recall...too lazy to look up the details...that the resolution > of the RCA case in the mid-50s paid roughly the same amount to his > estate that he had been offered (and declined) in 1940 - not counting > inflation. I suppose "winning" and "vindication" means something but as > I read Armstrong's life history I get the impression that his > inflexibility (or naivete) in business was ultimately his undoing...much > the case with many inventors. Hello, and it's a shame that Armstrong ended up jumping out a window to his death. While David Sarnoff certainly had acumen in matters of business, the name of Edwin H. Armstrong should be as easily recalled as Marconi by the public IMHO when discussions of radio pioneers come up by other than radio historians. Alas it's not and it's disgraceful. Here in our nation's capital even the venerable Smithsonian doesn't give him his due in terms of what they have on display. Besides FM, it was Armstrong who developed the broadcast AM receiving system (you all know what it is) that provided the requisite sensitivity so as not to require a horrendous amount of transmitter power/antenna gain to cover a given reception area. Folks didn't have to string up outside AM receiving antennas (except maybe in fringe areas) or worry about their radio sets (in good working order) breaking into oscillation. Automobile and battery-powered portables also became viable thanks in large part to Armstrong's innovations. Sincerely, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 Article: 332022 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: 4 days left! Vintage Sony STR-V55 FM Stereo Hi-Fi Receiver Tuner VG Message-ID: References: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:28:23 GMT >Funny, isn't it, that "lampbay" yospam@nospam.net is worried about people >spamming him, but he feels it's fine to spam this newsgroup. LOL! To give the devil his due, he IS using the FA prefix, which should enable those who so choose to filter out his auction posts. I have to admit the ( ! ) signs don't quite induce a state of breathless excitement in me as a reader. Gordon Richmond Article: 332023 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FM Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:49:21 -0800 Message-ID: References: <4427fb3f$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net> <1gmh22p2hubsiba4chks6q75q67stsm6ee@4ax.com> <122ig42t715oo65@corp.supernews.com> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 12:24:57 -0500, wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) wrote: >Hello, and it's a shame that Armstrong ended up jumping out a window to >his death. While David Sarnoff certainly had acumen in matters of >business, the name of Edwin H. Armstrong should be as easily recalled as >Marconi by the public IMHO when discussions of radio pioneers come up by >other than radio historians. Alas it's not and it's disgraceful. Here in >our nation's capital even the venerable Smithsonian doesn't give him his >due in terms of what they have on display. Besides FM, it was Armstrong >who developed the broadcast AM receiving system (you all know what it is) >that provided the requisite sensitivity so as not to require a horrendous >amount of transmitter power/antenna gain to cover a given reception area. >Folks didn't have to string up outside AM receiving antennas (except maybe >in fringe areas) or worry about their radio sets (in good working order) >breaking into oscillation. Automobile and battery-powered portables also >became viable thanks in large part to Armstrong's innovations. Sincerely, > >John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil >Naval Research Laboratory >4555 Overlook Avenue, SW >Washington, DC 20375-5337 An excellent synopsis of the issue of corporate greed versus brain power. A similar, but far less known, situation exsisted withe Thadeus Cahill, inventor of the "Telharmonium" and Laurens Hammond, producer of the once-ubiquitous Hammond "organ." Cahill, working without the benefit of thermionic emission, built the first "additive synthesis" electric musical instrument around 1894. They were, in fact, huge alternators for tone generators, and a staff of musicians would play the machine at a central office, from which music programming would be distributed via telephone pairs to subscribers. Cahill, while being ingenius, had some quirks, such as demanding that the instrument use a non-standard keyboard to accommodate true temperament, making it exceedingly diffcult for pianists and organists accustomed to the equal temperament-standard keyboard to play. Enter quick-buck artist Laurens Hammond, himself a Cornell engineering graduate of 1916. Hammond wasn't interested at all in altruistic invention and discovery; he was a right wing money grubbing entrepreneur, always looking for the big bucks. In this case, and to oversimplify a great deal, he assembled a team of real engineers and sat waiting for Cahill's patents on his Telharmonium to expire in 1931, and then developed his Hammond "organ" immediately afterward and secured patents to the idea of "tonewheel generation"...essentially the same thing Cahill had done, but much miniaturized through the use of the vacuum tube, and simplified by using Equal Temperament. It should be pointed out that earlier, Hammond also tried to steal Tesla's synchronous motor patents from Westinghouse, but "Ol' George" was wise to him and shut him down. Before organs, of course, Hammond made a great deal of money manufacturing synchronous electric clocks, the motor of which he tried patent as an "original idea," when Tesla, working for Westinghouse, had pioneered that work years earlier. Did Hammond steal Cahill's idea? Sure, he did. Did Hammond make a huge forture off of it while Cahill died a broken man? You betcha. American capitalism at work again. However, without such capitalism, the Hammond Organ, and self-played organ music (although ti didn't really sound much like a real organ at all) at home for tens of millions, would've never happened. To me, the question, "Should've Hammond worked with Cahill earlier in trying to secure rights to tonewheel generation and get his product to market with Cahill onboard?" would be affirmative. However, greed is an ever-present basic human instinct, and it will be ever thus. Article: 332024 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 4 days left! Vintage Sony STR-V55 FM Stereo Hi-Fi Receiver Tuner VG Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 09:51:08 -0800 Message-ID: References: On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:28:23 GMT, Gordon Richmond wrote: >I have to admit the ( ! ) signs don't quite induce a state of breathless excitement in me >as a reader. Not to mention that the crap he's flogging was basically badly engineered, overpriced garbage when new, as is most Sony stuff. dB Article: 332025 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: 217stufforsale References: <1143504879.544980.143160@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <_x0Wf.63672$dW3.17074@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> <1143553067.837342.4360@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:24:23 -0600 Al wrote: > I bought a National NC-300 from him on eBay a few months ago. It was > basically as advertised, although I wouldn't call it "Excellent" as it > was described. If it wasn't 'Excellent' as advertised; how was it 'basically as advertised?' Sounds like a contradiction to me. It definitely needed some work and was badly out of > calibration and alignment. The crystal phasing capacitor was cracked, > so I had to fix that, but I don't know if that happened in shipping or > not. That doesn't sound excellent at all...in fact sounds pretty bad. It was packed very well, in two boxes with a lot of styrofoam > peanut things and bubble wrap. I hate the peanuts; but does sound like it was well packed...all the more reason to suspect the 'excellent' thing. > It took a while for him to ship it out, but when I asked him when it > was going to be shipped, he did apologize and say he had just hurt his > back badly and that he would ship as soon as possible. > ?? jak > Al, WA2AS > > > Ed wrote: >> User ID: 217stufforsale >> Name: KELLY NACCARATO >> Company: >> City: GUILFORD >> State: CT >> Country: United States >> Phone: (203) 640-3415 >> Registered Since: Thursday, Jul 15, 2004 10:30:17 PST >> >> He has a bad reputation among the lists (Boatanchors, Hallicrafters, >> Collins) some have had pretty good luck with him, most have not. Buyer >> Beware. >> >> wrote in message >> news:1143504879.544980.143160@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... >>> I'm an idiot, but I think its Martyn's alter-ego. He HAS had more than >>> 1 active eBay signon at one time. >>> > > Article: 332026 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: 4 days left! Vintage Sony STR-V55 FM Stereo Hi-Fi Receiver Tuner VG Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 15:59:27 -0500 "DeserTBoB" wrote in message news:gqti22h94i8o3f2turhb500bj0037pu3s0@4ax.com... > On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:28:23 GMT, Gordon Richmond > wrote: > > >I have to admit the ( ! ) signs don't quite induce a state of breathless excitement in me > >as a reader. > > Not to mention that the crap he's flogging was basically badly > engineered, overpriced garbage when new, as is most Sony stuff. > > dB And slightly off topic for the newsgroup. Maybe some eBay complaints will bring good results. Article: 332027 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 4 days left! Vintage Sony STR-V55 FM Stereo Hi-Fi Receiver Tuner VG Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 14:12:52 -0800 Message-ID: References: On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 15:59:27 -0500, " Uncle Peter" wrote: >And slightly off topic for the newsgroup. Maybe some eBay complaints will >bring good results. That's being mightily optomistic. "FraudBay" is very lax about violations of their ToS these days. > Article: 332028 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" References: <8BZVf.38$ST4.28@fe04.lga> <1143511062.739895.263890@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1143536597.328012.270570@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1143585624.536612.15790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Airline Movie Dial with Motor Drive? Message-ID: <_djWf.121$c11.97@fe06.lga> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:59:52 -0500 Did you check out the excellent link provided by jim menning? http://personalpages.tds.net/~jonarthr/airline_moviedial.htm "Dave" wrote in message news:1143585624.536612.15790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I have found what it looks like on Google but what does it actually do? > Article: 332029 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Airline Movie Dial with Motor Drive? Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:01:12 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <8BZVf.38$ST4.28@fe04.lga> <1143511062.739895.263890@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1143536597.328012.270570@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1143585624.536612.15790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1143585624.536612.15790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Dave" writes: >I have found what it looks like on Google but what does it actually do? From http://personalpages.tds.net/~jonarthr/airline_moviedial.htm: "...the "movie dial." What this is, is a small film projector, complete with high powered lamp, focal lenses, color wheel, mirror and back projection screen. The idea is, as you turn the dial, this cylinder of micro film rotates past the lens and light source, projecting the film in reverse on this smoked glass screen." See http://personalpages.tds.net/~jonarthr/images/dial_small.jpg for a picture of the above-described bazinga in operation. It's a station indicator for tuning the radio. A "movie dial" has nothing whatsoever to do with the motion picture industry, in case you were wondering. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 332030 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <8BZVf.38$ST4.28@fe04.lga> <1143511062.739895.263890@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1143536597.328012.270570@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1143585624.536612.15790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Airline Movie Dial with Motor Drive? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:02:46 GMT "Dave" wrote in message news:1143585624.536612.15790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >I have found what it looks like on Google but what does it actually do? > Did you even look at the link I posted? Go back to it and read it this time. jim menning Article: 332031 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" Subject: Source for BLACK spaghetti? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:04:08 -0500 Anybody know of a source for BLACK spaghetti like Antique Electronic Supply used to sell? I think they called if 11 guage (large - you can hide a 1/2 watt resistor inside). Anyway, only WHITE is currently available, and their customer service says there's no chance the black will be available again. I'm NOT into painting it (been there, done that for an AK breadboard restoration!) Thanks, Dave Article: 332032 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Airline Movie Dial with Motor Drive? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <8BZVf.38$ST4.28@fe04.lga> <1143511062.739895.263890@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1143536597.328012.270570@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:22:23 GMT In article , jmenningSPAM@new.rr.com says... > > >http://personalpages.tds.net/~jonarthr/airline_moviedial.htm > >jim menning notice the angle of the projected image .... last picture of the above link ... both the ones I just finished had the same deal.. not as bad as this one.. but noticable. Hope to figure out how to fix that on the next one I restore. Its like they needed three adjustments on the mirror instead of two adjustments. John k9uwa /w4 Article: 332033 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Source for BLACK spaghetti? Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:32:23 -0400 Message-ID: <122jhscb07oprc7@corp.supernews.com> References: Dave McClellan wrote: > Anybody know of a source for BLACK spaghetti like Antique Electronic Supply > used to sell? I think they called if 11 guage (large - you can hide a 1/2 > watt resistor inside). Anyway, only WHITE is currently available, and their > customer service says there's no chance the black will be available again. > I'm NOT into painting it (been there, done that for an AK breadboard > restoration!) > > Thanks, > Dave > > Would heatshrink be an option for you? McMaster-carr has a woven type of spaghetti tubing in black. Its sort of like nylon instead of the old cloth but looks much the same. Smallest size is 1/8th (3mm). http://www.mcmaster.com Sorry, I don't have their stock number handy. The stuff is made by Techflex and they call it Clean Cut PET Fray Resistant Scissor Cut Sleeving, p/n CCP0.13BK www.techflex.com HTH, Bill Article: 332034 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Got Philco 39-40 PB's? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:44:21 GMT In article , topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com says... > > >Hi all, > >Anybody got a set of pushbuttons in stock for a Philco 39-40 that they'd be >willing to sell me? >Larry is out of them right now and needs to make a new mold and the set's >getting picked up in 2 weeks. > >Keith > > Keith ... what is the length on the buttons you need?... I know I have a set of them at home ... I will be there Monday to look.. email me the length of the ones you need. email addy is: k9uwa aut arrl douught net I usually epoxy those things on the shafts ... yeah I know if you ever have to take one off you have to crush the button... but they don't pop off that way!. John Article: 332035 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." References: <9roVf.10299$k75.3874@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> <2hdd2218ck659q4k9o81rcueo035q3lrk5@4ax.com> Subject: Re: moldy tube tester Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 00:00:18 GMT > tomato juice...believe it or not. It very well could be that there's > a potting material or a lacquer or something used in the manufacturing > of this boatanchor that' giving off the odor...and I'd be concerned > about that. A lot of stuff used in old electronics manufacture is > highly carcinogenic. > > Sounds like an old DuMont. Yeah I tend to also think it's some kind of material inside the unit, but I can't imagine what it would be. I've never encountered anything like it before, and I've seen (and smelled) leakage or breakage of just about every type of component imaginable. It's an old Stark SK-1 actually. I dated it from the tube lineup (5Y3-6SN7-etc), even if it had some collector value, I doubt any collector would want it stinking up their display rack. In fact that's why I had to banish it to a storage building.... Article: 332036 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Blaupunkt Sultan Type 20203 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 02:04:31 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1143512692.121352.17320@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Gtbullet > I'm looking for info on a Blaupunkt Sultan Radio type 20203. > I've seen some sites that have the radio or one that looks like mine > but,,,, I don't know. The radio I have is in very near in mint > condition. All buttons, dials and lights work. The Fm Radio work fine > as well as am. It's a newer model I think, I would say the 60's because > the mgz range is from 88 to 108. Does that sound right? I know the > older models only go to 100 mgz. Even at that time the German frequency range was regulated to 100 or 104 MHz the export models covered often the range of the destination, 108 for e.g. USA. The Sultan 20200 for the German market ends at 100 MHz (1960/61) Kind Regards, Georg Article: 332037 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" Subject: May West Emerson?? Message-ID: <_JkWf.233$Nc4.209@fe03.lga> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:41:13 -0500 I thought May West had TWO boobs, not one. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6616570332 Article: 332038 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: moldy tube tester Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 17:00:58 -0800 Message-ID: References: <9roVf.10299$k75.3874@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> <2hdd2218ck659q4k9o81rcueo035q3lrk5@4ax.com> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 00:00:18 GMT, "Chris F." wrote: >It's an old Stark SK-1 actually. I dated it from the tube lineup >(5Y3-6SN7-etc) Late '40s. The 6SN7 didn't show up until the big JEDEC conversion after the war. > even if it had some collector value, I doubt any collector >would want it stinking up their display rack. In fact that's why I had to >banish it to a storage building.... Old, unsynched o-scopes aren't worth anything. Old, clean tube Tek scopes are worth more, because they still work and are still stable...if you can afford the power and tubes to keep it going! My old RM45 (a rack mount 545) was still in perfect cal, along with all the plug-ins, when I finally sold it after 20 years' service. The more modern scopes, like the 465, etc., are handier, no tubes and so on, but I doubt they'd be more stable in calibration or have more flexibility as the old 53-54 series Teks, if you had all the plug-ins. I even had an audio range spec an plugin, and it worked! You could diplay input signals both in linear and logrithmic amplitude displays! Worked GREAT. Article: 332039 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <_JkWf.233$Nc4.209@fe03.lga> Subject: Re: May West Emerson?? Message-ID: <71lWf.6350$FD4.2252@dukeread07> Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:02:57 -0500 "Dave McClellan" wrote in message news:_JkWf.233$Nc4.209@fe03.lga... > I thought May West had TWO boobs, not one. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6616570332 > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6617413328 she did. Article: 332040 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1143551475.343040.303510@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <9L2dnclkK7m98rTZRVn-qQ@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Got Philco 39-40 PB's? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 01:03:51 GMT Yea, I dont want the customer to touch it eather but its going out the door in 2 weeks, I expected Larry to have them by now but he's really backed up, partly from my large order over the winter. I have the clips but there isnt much left of the original buttons, not enough to even measure or picture. Anyone got a set of Repro's in stock? Keith "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:9L2dnclkK7m98rTZRVn-qQ@comcast.com... > No Mike, he means the wine colored ones that all rot to hell and NO good > original ones exist anywhere. These are particularly troublesome as they > also have a brass clip you must remove from your originals and install > into > the repros... and, nobody has the clips either. > Also, due to the shrinkage of the mold, the repros are slightly smaller > and > tend to fit sloppy. Its a crummy set up when new, and worse today. They > dont work for shit either... the switch as I recall is crappy. All this > got > solved in 1940. > > Its amazing how few 1939 Philcos I see compared to the flood of 1940-42 > sets, and even 1936-38. I bet many were pitched out. The smaller table > sets of course used a different button, we are talking the consoles and > the > inclined face larger table sets here. > > Note to Keith, the customer shouldnt pull the chassis, they need to pull > the > escutcheon to install these. > > Mark Oppat > > > "Mike Koste" wrote in message > news:1143551475.343040.303510@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> Keith: You mean the round black ones about a half and inch long and 3/8 >> in diameter? Got 'em if you need 'em. >> >> Mike Koste >> Gobs of Knobs >> Ambker, PA >> >> > > > Article: 332041 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Got Philco 39-40 PB's? Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:47:02 -0700 Message-ID: <5246-4429E716-1483@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: <5pKdnc2dhpvkG7TZRVn-vA@comcast.com> I just made a set from wood for a 39-25. Properly sanded, primed and painted it is tough to distinguish them from the originals except for being brown. :) This is what i did to the last 2 Philcos here . Larrys knobs are beautifull but i sold the radios so cheap and paid way to much for them i could not spend anything on them . Article: 332042 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: moldy tube tester Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 18:50:48 -0700 Message-ID: <5246-4429E7F8-1485@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: <2Iednbjo9IGhwLXZRVn-sg@athenet.net> sunlight should eventually break it down Philo You would think so and it does sorta work with light cases . I have sunned a few of this kind of thing and after you shut it up for a while the smell comes back . Article: 332043 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: What is best lubricant for phono motors Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 19:35:46 -0700 Message-ID: <5246-4429F282-1488@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: <122ibovc3b3h67d@corp.supernews.com> I certainly hope you were having a bad day because that was not nice at all and totaly uncalled for . Use your kill file option next time . I guess the difference between us is now *I* will NEVER AGAIN ONCE mix these two types of oils. Because someone taught me just now how little I knew and now I realize everything I've been doing is wrong and I can learn something correct. You will do what you always have done-in this case gotten away with- no matter what because being wrong is just not possible or acceptable. Some folks eat donuts at every meal and smoke for years and years and live a long time- that doesn't prove donuts and cigarettes are good for you. John H. Article: 332044 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: FM Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 03:46:48 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4427fb3f$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net> <1gmh22p2hubsiba4chks6q75q67stsm6ee@4ax.com> In jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) writes: >In article , "William Sommerwerck" > wrote: >> The conventional belief is that Sarnoff was desperately afraid of FM, >> because it would obsolete the AM infrastructure. He therefore did everything >> possible to beat down Armstrong. >Exactly what was this "AM infrastructure" that is always mentioned in the >"conventional belief"? I'd imagine from Sarnoff's point of view as a manufacturer this was the investment in producing AM radios -- design, tooling, etc., not to mention the unsold radios that might remain unsold should the public turn to FM. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 332045 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: RCA D-22 on eBay!!! Not mine... Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 23:07:04 -0500 Message-ID: <122k1vcfmghjf30@corp.supernews.com> References: <7L2dnVbgBLgbarTZnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com> A little- rough, eh ? John H. Article: 332046 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Replacing power resistor in RCA 630TS TV Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 22:38:43 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 11:49:27 -0800, Phil Nelson wrote: > Thanks, that's good to know. Doing the math, it looks as if the 1.5K/25W > replacement should work for 1.36K/17W. The lower resistance value is around > 90% of the higher, which would give a comfortable ~22W rating for the > resulting resistor. > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson Right on! -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 332047 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FM Date: Tue, 28 Mar 2006 22:16:01 -0800 Message-ID: References: <4427fb3f$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net> <1gmh22p2hubsiba4chks6q75q67stsm6ee@4ax.com> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:37:19 -0600, jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) wrote: >In article , "William Sommerwerck" > wrote: > >> The conventional belief is that Sarnoff was desperately afraid of FM, >> because it would obsolete the AM infrastructure. He therefore did everything >> possible to beat down Armstrong. > >Exactly what was this "AM infrastructure" that is always mentioned in the >"conventional belief"? Obviously the huge number of network affiliated AM stations built between 1925 and the '40s, plus the AT&T wired "program circuit" network of 4 and 8 KHz feed circuits that supplied them all with network programming. According to Armstrong's idea of "high fidelity" radio, the AT&T program network would have to be upgraded to a more expensive 15 KHz bandwidth to provide full fidelity that Armstrong envirsioned. Sarnoff didn't want anything to do with the expense of building a whole new network just to feed the FM newcomers, and AT&T surely didn't want to give up that extra voice channel's worth of bandwidth in a basic "group" at carrier frequencies to provide it without charging considerably more. Sarnoff was quite satisfied that AM would handle the "audio" needs of the nation, and he was only concerned with his all electronic television scheme, and making sure it would permanently displace the electro-mechanical CBS/Paley system. For a good number of years, I worked on those "program terminals" that, in their early years, provided network feeds to all stations across the nation, powered as they were by WECO 311B and 310A tubes, all with switchable bandwith between 4 and 8 KHz. Interestingly, AT&T used the same network, with some additions, to provide separate audio feeds to TV affilates, at a 4 KHz bandwidth. It wasn't until AT&T introduced "diplexed" audio in 1979 that frequency bandwidth and fidelity for TV audio became a new concern, with 15 KHz "TVCU" audio program units coming into service in that year. dB Article: 332048 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Powers" Subject: bias cell Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 07:05:03 GMT I recently re-tackled my antique radio restoration projects... so far I've done a GE Model 102 AA5, a Halicrafters S-100? and a Fisher 500. They are all working great! Now I'm on to the tough one. I got a Stromberg-Carlson 335L that was my Great-grandfathers, then my grandfathers, and now mine. It has always "worked" and I even had the guts to plug it in and try it out when I brought it home... it still "works" but is a mess and needs help. Anyway, my specific question is about a thing called a "bias cell" that is between the volume control wiper and the grid of the 6F5 first stage audio amp. I read some stuff here: http://www.philcorepairbench.com/biascell.htm about the bias cell in general, but I'm wondering if the best idea would be to replace it with something else? I don't even know what the voltage of this one is supposed to be. I can tell that what is apparently the seal is mostly rotted away. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, John Powers Article: 332049 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" References: Subject: Re: bias cell Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 06:34:28 -0500 If the wires to terminals on the bias cell holder board can be reversed (i.e. one is not hard connected to the chassis), it's a simple matter to remove the cell, clean out the content completely, and install a small button cell (I use type LR44/A76 'cause they are cheap on eBay). The voltage is close enough, but beware: THE POLARITY WILL BE REVERSED if you do not reverse the leads to the holder. The pressure of the spring clip can be adjusted to retain both the original cell (now just a retainer for the button cell) as well as the button cell itself. I start by drilling several holes in the carbon top, then break out the pieces, remove the remnants of the rubber seal, and remove the contents/chemicals. I then clean out the case using a Dremel moto tool and wire brush. The button cell is then inserted with the + side inward. Remount the cell in the holder. Make sure the spring clip only touches the smaller negative area of the cell and does not short out the cell. I a couple of cases where I could not reverse the leads to the holder board, I was able to place a brass nut in the bottom of the old cell for spacing, and insulate the + shell of the button cell from the wall of the old bias cell using shrink tubing. To me, this beats installing a Radio Shack plastic holder and a AA or AAA battery. Dave "John Powers" wrote in message news:zkqWf.5958$HW2.194@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > specific question is about a thing called a "bias cell" that is between the > volume control wiper and the grid of the 6F5 first stage audio amp. I read > some stuff here: http://www.philcorepairbench.com/biascell.htm about the > bias cell in general, but I'm wondering if the best idea would be to replace > it with something else? I don't even know what the voltage of this one is > supposed to be. I can tell that what is apparently the seal is mostly rotted > away. > > Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks, > > John Powers > > Article: 332050 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: For Sale 1954 RCA Model 21-T-373 Television References: <1143322931.950096.190400@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 08:33:29 -0500 Dave wrote: > The Zenith you have on your site http://www.tuberadios.com/zenith.jpg > looks like Phil's H723 http://antiqueradio.org/zen07.htm from 1951 > Thanks Dave, I will update my site. Regards, Sal Article: 332051 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Subject: FA: Philco 16B Cathedral Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 13:37:40 GMT Does the Philco Cathedral Model of 16B have a smaller speaker than the Tombstone Model ? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6617947478&indexURL=3#ebayphotohosting Article: 332052 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: wow... AA5 Zenith on eBay.... Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 09:15:29 -0500 "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:buCdnXulF83Ht7fZRVn-tA@comcast.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/Beautiful-working-1940s-Zenith-wood-radio_W0QQitemZ6613171197QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Igor sure can make a market! > > Mark Oppat Nice "_original_" finish. The kind of finish that has its scratches and worn finish miraculously "restored" with a simple polishing...Bovine by-product at its best. As for the sale, I'm happy for the seller, really... Syl Article: 332053 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: wow... AA5 Zenith on eBay.... References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:58:04 GMT The original grill cloth looks crooked to me. Mark Oppat wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/Beautiful-working-1940s-Zenith-wood-radio_W0QQitemZ6613171197QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Igor sure can make a market! > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 332054 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1143646511.603613.219760@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: wow... AA5 Zenith on eBay.... Message-ID: <8JyWf.119164$SX5.1412066@weber.videotron.net> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 11:37:33 -0500 "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1143646511.603613.219760@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > who? in their right mind would pay 700.00 for this POS radio? Excellent question... I'll give you 10% of my sales if you can find _me_ buyers like his... Syl Article: 332055 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: bias cell Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 14:02:11 -0500 Message-ID: <4903tmFm9ed6U1@individual.net> References: John Powers wrote: > Now I'm on to the tough one. I got a Stromberg-Carlson 335L that was my > Great-grandfathers, then my grandfathers, and now mine. It has always > "worked" and I even had the guts to plug it in and try it out when I > brought it home... it still "works" but is a mess and needs help. Anyway, > my specific question is about a thing called a "bias cell" that is between > the volume control wiper and the grid of the 6F5 first stage audio amp. I > read some stuff here: http://www.philcorepairbench.com/biascell.htm about > the bias cell in general, but I'm wondering if the best idea would be to > replace it with something else? I don't even know what the voltage of this > one is supposed to be. I can tell that what is apparently the seal is > mostly rotted away. > > Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. yes, you can replace it with a 470k or a 1meg resistor. tie one end of the resistor to B(-) (usually chassis ground) & the other end to the control grid of the 6F5. then, tie the connection to the volume wiper to the control grid. doing that would provide the negative bias to the control grid. i do this to every one of these i run across with good results. -- The Shadow Knows Article: 332056 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: bias cell Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 11:23:30 -0800 Message-ID: <2747-442ADEB2-20@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: <4903tmFm9ed6U1@individual.net> >From R.Rambler: >..you can replace it with a 470k or a >1meg resistor. tie one end of the resistor >to B(-) (usually chassis ground) & the >other end to the control grid of the 6F5. >then, tie the connection to the volume >wiper to the control grid. doing that >would provide the negative bias to the >control grid. > >i do this to every one of these i run >across with good results. >-- How would this be any different, electrically, than simply tying the grid directly to the vc wiper? What purpose does the resistor serve? Sure, the arrangement will 'work', but without any way to develop bias voltage (since the tube's cathode is already at ground potential). When eliminating the bias cell, an alternate arrangement is to run a coupling cap from the wiper to grid, and a high value resistor (10 - 12 meg or so) from grid to ground. That way, the grid is 'semi floating' and develops a volt or two of bias by space charge. The cap's value is generally somewhere between .001-.005 =B5f, depending on how much bass attenuation is needed. Bill(oc) Article: 332057 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:13:02 -0500 The speaker is correct for that radio, it uses a smaller speaker than the tombstones. Note the placement of the two decorative screw heads way up on the speaker fretwork. BTW, my 16B cathederal is my daily player, it sits next to the computer desk. pete Article: 332058 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Jukebox/Radio Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 15:20:51 -0600 Message-ID: <3356-442AFA33-74@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> In The Postman Always Rings Twice movie,at first I thought that was a big old floor model radio in there.Then the guy put a coin in the jukebox and played a record. cuhulin Article: 332059 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 16:44:22 -0500 Message-ID: <122lvtris90cf7b@corp.supernews.com> References: "TerryJ" wrote in message news:X6WdndzCs9zMfbfZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com... > It appears to have an adapter board with a smaller speaker. Ask the seller > whats up. > > It has the original speaker- THAT'S what's up. IF it was a replacement I would have disclosed it! Yes, Philco used an 8" speaker on that monster chassis- please note a different size speaker wouldn't FIT on the screws. Philco also used that 8" speaker on the late model 116 tombstone- I know, I have one. John H. Vermont Console Rescue eBay's "yonny" Article: 332060 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Blaupunkt Sultan Type 20203 Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 00:56:55 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1143512692.121352.17320@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1143596154.292725.97810@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Gtbullet wrote: > Thank you very much, do you have any idea on it's worth in todays > market? Market? Ouch. Against value: 1. Design like many others of that period 2. Not "state of the art" technique 2. The period itself Pro (goodwill) value: 1. Souvenir from your ancestors or a friend? Keep it! 2. A freaky (German) collector wants it at any price (hard to believe) 3. An Arabian sultan loves the name and would be dying to have it OK, indeed it's a very nice relative small radio. Rare in Germany because of 108MHz on top. Last auction of similar (German) model in fine condition: http://cgi.ebay.de/Roehrenradio_W0QQitemZ6608827912QQcategoryZ933QQcmd ZViewItem 23,50 EUR on 08.03.2006 Hope that helps. Kind Regards Georg Article: 332061 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FA: Philco 16B Cathedral From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:58:18 GMT In article , james12at@gmail.com says... > > >Does the Philco Cathedral Model of 16B have a smaller speaker than the >Tombstone Model ? > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6617947478&indexURL=3#ebay photohosting in a word... yes... deco tombstones have 10 inchers and cathedrals have only 8 inch speakers in them John Article: 332062 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: FA: Philco 16B Cathedral Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:39:24 -0500 "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:saydnWspKIQYibbZnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@comcast.com... > wonder why this didnt sell? because no paypal? Its the best version of > the 16 in my opinion. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/1935-Philco-16B-Tombstone-AM-Shortwave-Best-Radio-EVER_W 0QQitemZ6612910697QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Mark Oppat > > Mark Folks don't like high starting prices--after all it IS an auction! If he had a started at a buck, with a reasonable reserve, he might have generated some interest and a bidding war. Pete > Article: 332063 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <17vu12pg8mnl8s616vkr7fq325c1os7ar7@4ax.com> <1vh022dgt3fvumq7bi0iema8reqc13im6b@4ax.com> <1142980245.443344.166260@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1143497725.595796.205690@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <6vqj22tmhuju3bif8oqg7405j8clpmqb8c@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Walton speaker wanted Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 18:41:07 -0500 "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:6vqj22tmhuju3bif8oqg7405j8clpmqb8c@4ax.com... > On 27 Mar 2006 14:15:25 -0800, "Eddie Brimer" > wrote: > > >where did you find it? how much? > > A couple miles from where you live. $5. > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Oh oh.. Eddie probably had the big one after reading that... Article: 332064 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: FA: great Silvertone tombstone, not mine Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:01:49 -0400 Message-ID: <122m7vg3qu4olef@corp.supernews.com> References: Mark Oppat wrote: > somebody should email this seller and snag this... ??? Article: 332065 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon Rudisill" Subject: Help identify Airline radio Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:07:31 -0500 Can anyone identify the model number of this Montgomery Ward Airline I picked up at Charlotte over the weekend? Can't find anything on it online. Has the following tube lineup: 6A6G, 6K7G, 6F6G, 5Y3GT, 6G5. Thanks! Photo at: http://tinyurl.com/ha4un Also posted to Alt.binaries.pictures.radio Jon Rudisill Article: 332066 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: FA: Philco 16B Cathedral Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:00:43 -0500 Message-ID: <122mbe0j1u4vaf9@corp.supernews.com> References: Perhaps everyone got Type 2 diabetes from the excessive sweetness of the description. John H. Article: 332067 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Help identify Airline radio Message-ID: <_hGWf.37346$ty4.6995@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 01:14:34 GMT "Jon Rudisill" wrote in message news:WfFWf.607$L6.375@bignews5.bellsouth.net... > > Can anyone identify the model number of this Montgomery Ward Airline I > picked up at Charlotte over the weekend? Can't find anything on it online. > Has the following tube lineup: 6A6G, 6K7G, 6F6G, 5Y3GT, 6G5. Thanks! > > Photo at: http://tinyurl.com/ha4un > Also posted to Alt.binaries.pictures.radio > > > > Jon Rudisill > > Are you sure there's not at least one more tube in there? jim menning Article: 332068 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Help identify Airline radio Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 01:15:35 GMT "Jon Rudisill" wrote in message news:WfFWf.607$L6.375@bignews5.bellsouth.net... > Can anyone identify the model number of this Montgomery Ward Airline I > picked up at Charlotte over the weekend? Can't find anything on it online. > Has the following tube lineup: 6A6G, 6K7G, 6F6G, 5Y3GT, 6G5. Thanks! > > Photo at: http://tinyurl.com/ha4un > Also posted to Alt.binaries.pictures.radio > > > > Jon Rudisill > > How about some chassis pictures? Any labels at all? jim menning Article: 332069 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Actually an 8S129 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:22:50 -0500 Message-ID: <122mcnfbcuheq39@corp.supernews.com> Note AC tranny, Target Tuning, dynamic speaker- all things not present on the battery version described- http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/555-1936Zenith-6B129-Black-Dial-Tombstone-Radio-NR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28272QQitemZ6615740931QQrdZ1#la-image-2John H. Article: 332070 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <7L2dnVbgBLgbarTZnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com> <122k1vcfmghjf30@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: RCA D-22 on eBay!!! Not mine... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 01:34:46 GMT Come on! If I lived in Iowa Id be all over it! This is in much better shape that some of the sets Ive done :-) Keith "Hagstar" wrote in message news:122k1vcfmghjf30@corp.supernews.com... >A little- rough, eh ? > > John H. > Article: 332071 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <122lvtris90cf7b@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Message-ID: <3EGWf.36298$jf2.15911@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 01:38:07 GMT and were not keeping this for our own collectin Becauuuuuuuse? ;-) Keith > It has the original speaker- THAT'S what's up. IF it was a replacement I > would have disclosed it! Yes, Philco used an 8" speaker on that monster > chassis- please note a different size speaker wouldn't FIT on the screws. > Philco also used that 8" speaker on the late model 116 tombstone- I know, > I have one. > > John H. > Vermont Console Rescue > eBay's "yonny" > Article: 332072 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <122mcnfbcuheq39@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Actually an 8S129 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:49:15 -0500 That will lose them a few bids. Yonny, there's your chassis!! > Article: 332073 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <122lvtris90cf7b@corp.supernews.com> <3EGWf.36298$jf2.15911@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:50:25 -0500 "Keith Park" wrote in message news:3EGWf.36298$jf2.15911@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > and were not keeping this for our own collectin Becauuuuuuuse? > > ;-) > > Keith EXACTLY what I asked Yonny the other day... And after he bought that huge farmhouse to house these beauties! You can NEVER have enough 16B Philcos. Article: 332074 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 20:57:54 -0500 "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:grudnaM9trVlk7bZnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com... > YES it has an 8". The "modern" type 16B has an 8" too., but the shouldered > cabinet versions have 10" speakers. there are at least 5 versions of the > Philco 16 IIRC., then there are several of the 116 in 1936. > All are fantastic radios when restored! The 16 is the best cathedral ever, > in my opinion. > > Mark Oppat > > Which is the "modern style" 16B? I have the early version and the later version (which resembles the shouldered 116), and both have 10 inch speakers. Pete Article: 332075 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: bias cell Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:06:48 -0500 Message-ID: <490spqFm7930U1@individual.net> References: <4903tmFm9ed6U1@individual.net> <2747-442ADEB2-20@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> Bill Sheppard wrote: > What purpose does the resistor serve? the control grid requires a negative DC potential (approx 1 to 3 volts) for grid biasing. the resistor does this because it provides the negative bias because it is connected below chassis ground potential. you will see this arrangement in most later radio designs -- The Shadow Knows Article: 332076 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <4903tmFm9ed6U1@individual.net> <2747-442ADEB2-20@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> <490spqFm7930U1@individual.net> Subject: Re: bias cell Message-ID: <06HWf.6576$FD4.5863@dukeread07> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:10:05 -0500 "Radio Rambler" wrote in message news:490spqFm7930U1@individual.net... > Bill Sheppard wrote: > > > What purpose does the resistor serve? > > the control grid requires a negative DC potential (approx 1 to 3 volts) for > grid biasing. the resistor does this because it provides the negative bias > because it is connected below chassis ground potential. you will see this > arrangement in most later radio designs > -- > The Shadow Knows I must be missing something here. Bill said nothing about the chassis being below the center tap potential. Pete Article: 332077 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:14:51 -0500 Message-ID: <122mfp08o1qdg9e@corp.supernews.com> References: <122lvtris90cf7b@corp.supernews.com> <3EGWf.36298$jf2.15911@twister.nyroc.rr.com> " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:APGWf.6488$FD4.906@dukeread07... > >> and were not keeping this for our own collectin Becauuuuuuuse? >> >> ;-) >> >> Keith > > EXACTLY what I asked Yonny the other day... And after he bought that huge > farmhouse to house these beauties! You can NEVER have enough 16B > Philcos. > > Keith, you are one of the people I think of first when I'm driven to sell things. You, and your giant cramped cellar filled with consoles quietly peeling away in the darkness. The belief you will "get to" all of them is your hedge against your own mortality. I note that not one of your radios ever sees the light of day unless it's at full retail. At this rate if you hire a full time helper or three there might be only a few dozen at your estate sale still untouched. My inspiration is lately tends more folks like my friend Dennis D. who thinks of any radio not restored in six months needs to be sold or parted out or SOMETHING. I have no idea personally WHY anyone would keep around multiple copies of an IDENTICAL chassis in different cabinets. And said cabinets look exactly the same as other Philcos, only different sizes. I decided the 16B with the smallest speaker could afford to go. The 3630 is on the 'Bay too because I have a shouldered 116 almost done that blows its doors off in every way and looks identical. Give me a break. John H. Article: 332078 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Actually an 8S129 Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:16:43 -0500 Message-ID: <122mfsga94kuge1@corp.supernews.com> References: <122mcnfbcuheq39@corp.supernews.com> The chassis on my 6B129 has been pretty carefully converted to AC and I plan on restoring it intact. Someone added a nice power tranny and field coil speaker as well as the requisite tubes. " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:uOGWf.6487$FD4.1717@dukeread07... > > That will lose them a few bids. Yonny, there's your chassis!! > > >> > > Article: 332079 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:21:34 -0500 Message-ID: <122mg5jcdg56f90@corp.supernews.com> References: You're kidding, right Uncle? You DO have the Philco book, right? Doug Houston's late model 116 tombstone is in it. Mine is here- http://home.att.net/~yonny/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-13392.html By the way, radio collectors hate this radio. Mine has traveled all over the world of swaps, all recapped and restored asking $375.00 and no one has so much as touched a knob or asked a question. It must be the 8" speaker. John H. " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:BWGWf.6489$FD4.1714@dukeread07... > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:grudnaM9trVlk7bZnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com... >> YES it has an 8". The "modern" type 16B has an 8" too., but the > shouldered >> cabinet versions have 10" speakers. there are at least 5 versions of the >> Philco 16 IIRC., then there are several of the 116 in 1936. >> All are fantastic radios when restored! The 16 is the best cathedral > ever, >> in my opinion. >> >> Mark Oppat >> >> > > Which is the "modern style" 16B? I have the early version and the later > version (which resembles the shouldered 116), and both have 10 inch > speakers. > > Pete > > Article: 332080 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <122mg5jcdg56f90@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Message-ID: <8AHWf.6639$FD4.4615@dukeread07> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:42:13 -0500 "Hagstar" wrote in message news:122mg5jcdg56f90@corp.supernews.com... > You're kidding, right Uncle? You DO have the Philco book, right? Doug > Houston's late model 116 tombstone is in it. Mine is here- > > http://home.att.net/~yonny/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-13392.html > > Kidding about what? Philco 116 tombstone, page 69. 10" speaker. Just measured the screw heads on mine on the shelf. 10 inches. Not 8". Philco 16B tombstone, late version. page 55 Speaker is on the floor right now as I type. It measures 10 INCHES. Philco 16B tombstone, page 54. Speaker on mine measures 10". Philco 16B cathederal. 8 inches. Pete Article: 332081 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <122mg5jcdg56f90@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Message-ID: <8HHWf.6640$FD4.6525@dukeread07> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:49:41 -0500 "Hagstar" wrote in message news:122mg5jcdg56f90@corp.supernews.com... > You're kidding, right Uncle? You DO have the Philco book, right? Doug > Houston's late model 116 tombstone is in it. Mine is here- > > http://home.att.net/~yonny/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-13392.html > I asked which LATE model 16B tombstone has a 8 inch speaker. All of mine have 10 inch speakers. I thought I had them all. Pete Article: 332082 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "t.hoehler" Subject: Unfortunate name for a phono Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 03:13:48 GMT I wonder what the brains at RCA were thinking when they named this phono "the skipper"? :http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6615741070#la-image-3 Tom Article: 332083 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:15:08 -0500 Message-ID: <122mja1ift4kjaf@corp.supernews.com> References: <122mg5jcdg56f90@corp.supernews.com> <8AHWf.6639$FD4.4615@dukeread07> PAGE 69 PHILCO BOOK LATE MODEL PHILCO 116 TOMBSTONE BY DOUG HOUSTON, SAME AS MY WEBSITE- http://home.att.net/~yonny/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-13392.html EIGHT, REPEAT EIGHT INCH SPEAKER JUST MEASURED MINE TO BE SURE. NEVER HAVE SEEN ONE WITH A 10" SPEAKER. YOU DON'T WANT ONE EITHER, LIKE I SAID. PERHAPS YOUR HAS A RARE OPTIONAL SPEAKER. JOHN H. " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:8AHWf.6639$FD4.4615@dukeread07... > > "Hagstar" wrote in message > news:122mg5jcdg56f90@corp.supernews.com... >> You're kidding, right Uncle? You DO have the Philco book, right? Doug >> Houston's late model 116 tombstone is in it. Mine is here- >> >> http://home.att.net/~yonny/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-13392.html >> >> > > Kidding about what? > > Philco 116 tombstone, > page 69. 10" speaker. Just measured the screw heads on mine > on the shelf. 10 inches. Not 8". > > Philco 16B tombstone, late version. page 55 Speaker is on the > floor right now as I type. It measures 10 INCHES. > > Philco 16B tombstone, page 54. Speaker on mine measures 10". > > Philco 16B cathederal. 8 inches. > > Pete > > > Article: 332084 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "t.hoehler" Subject: FA: Unfortunate name for a phono Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 03:16:32 GMT Sorry, forgot the FA on the subject line. http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6615741070#la-image-3 Article: 332085 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: FA: Philco 16B Cathedral Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:21:22 -0500 Message-ID: <122mjln9gg6oo3d@corp.supernews.com> References: <122mbe0j1u4vaf9@corp.supernews.com> <1143688249.634041.80630@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> WRONG SEE BINARIES :) "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1143688249.634041.80630@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > obviously thet ALL have 10 inch except the cathedral. correct? > Article: 332086 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:22:25 -0500 Message-ID: <122mjnmj8lqkq52@corp.supernews.com> References: <122mg5jcdg56f90@corp.supernews.com> <8AHWf.6639$FD4.4615@dukeread07> See binaries for photos. John H. Article: 332087 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FA: Philco 16B Cathedral From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <122mbe0j1u4vaf9@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 03:38:53 GMT In article <122mbe0j1u4vaf9@corp.supernews.com>, yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net says... > > >Perhaps everyone got Type 2 diabetes from the excessive sweetness of the >description. > >John H. > > Well he did get screwed and raped by paypal ... wonder how that came about?.. One would think.. that a "Power Seller" with a fleabay rating of close to 2k would understand an Auction .... but then it says eastern tn .. perhaps she doesn't understand John k9uwa Article: 332088 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Looks like a 1940 Zenith export chassis. From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1143520959.008277.58200@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 03:49:08 GMT In article <1143520959.008277.58200@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com>, menwagoh@msn.com says... > > >Multi-voltage export chassis. Serial number is listed in Zenith file as >chassis 5723AT, about 500 made. No model number. Not mine, but >interesting. Home brew cabinet >*bay item 6615778847 > yup I blew this one.... betting thats an 8 inch speaker with field coil in there... guess what that fits.... John k9uwa /w4 Article: 332089 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: FA: Philco 16B Cathedral Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:52:46 -0500 Message-ID: <122mlgj34446cd9@corp.supernews.com> References: <122mbe0j1u4vaf9@corp.supernews.com> <1143688249.634041.80630@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <122mjln9gg6oo3d@corp.supernews.com> <6vmdnf9cSoNQybbZnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@comcast.com> Sorry, I saw an extra "1" in there :) "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:6vmdnf9cSoNQybbZnZ2dnUVZ_vednZ2d@comcast.com... > Yonny, > Eddie is RIGHT, if you are talking about the 16B models ONLY, which he > was. Article: 332090 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon Rudisill" References: <_hGWf.37346$ty4.6995@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Help identify Airline radio Message-ID: <4KIWf.645$L6.422@bignews5.bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:04:26 -0500 Yep, there was a metal 6Q7 hiding behind a transformer. "jim menning" wrote in message news:_hGWf.37346$ty4.6995@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Jon Rudisill" wrote in message > news:WfFWf.607$L6.375@bignews5.bellsouth.net... > > > > Can anyone identify the model number of this Montgomery Ward Airline I > > picked up at Charlotte over the weekend? Can't find anything on it online. > > Has the following tube lineup: 6A6G, 6K7G, 6F6G, 5Y3GT, 6G5. Thanks! > > > > Photo at: http://tinyurl.com/ha4un > > Also posted to Alt.binaries.pictures.radio > > > > > > > > Jon Rudisill > > > > > > Are you sure there's not at least one more tube in there? > > jim menning > > Article: 332091 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: bias cell Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 19:58:18 -0800 Message-ID: <22019-442B575A-48@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> References: <06HWf.6576$FD4.5863@dukeread07> >From Uncle Peter: >I must be missing something here. the >oldcoot said nothing about the chassis >being below the center tap potential. I must be missin' sumpin' too. Mr. Rambler said: >...the control grid requires a negative DC >potential (approx 1 to 3 volts) for grid >biasing. the resistor does this because it >provides the negative bias because it is >connected below chassis ground >potential. "Below chassis ground potential" suggests the set uses a back-bias scheme, ie., a big tapped resistor from the ct of the power xfmr to ground, the taps supplying negative bias voltages. However this would obviate the need for a bias cell, would it not? Where the bias cell is used, it's most always when the 1st AF tube's cathode is grounded and the vol. control bottom lug is also grounded.. and there's no back-bias source (power xfmr ct goes directly to ground). Maybe the particular set he's referring to uses a very unusual topology. Bill(oc) Article: 332092 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon Rudisill" References: Subject: Re: Help identify Airline radio Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:08:19 -0500 There appeared to be a label on the chassis at one time, but it has been removed. There are no labels inside or outside the cabinet (it has been re-finished). Here's a picture of the chassis: http://tinyurl.com/rlugm Thanks! Jon "jim menning" wrote in message news:XiGWf.37347$ty4.33278@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Jon Rudisill" wrote in message > news:WfFWf.607$L6.375@bignews5.bellsouth.net... > > Can anyone identify the model number of this Montgomery Ward Airline I > > picked up at Charlotte over the weekend? Can't find anything on it online. > > Has the following tube lineup: 6A6G, 6K7G, 6F6G, 5Y3GT, 6G5. Thanks! > > > > Photo at: http://tinyurl.com/ha4un > > Also posted to Alt.binaries.pictures.radio > > > > > > > > Jon Rudisill > > > > > > How about some chassis pictures? Any labels at all? > > jim menning > > Article: 332093 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon Rudisill" References: Subject: Re: Help identify Airline radio Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:11:09 -0500 You are correct, there was a metal 6Q7 hiding behind a transformer, and 6A8G (not 6A6G, I read it off my notes wrong) Jon "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:C_Cdnf1klIpbzbbZRVn-rQ@comcast.com... > you mean 6A8G, not 6A6G. There should be a type 6Q7G in there also, > methinks, since you list no detector or audio driver. > > Mark Oppat > > > "Jon Rudisill" wrote in message > news:WfFWf.607$L6.375@bignews5.bellsouth.net... > > Can anyone identify the model number of this Montgomery Ward Airline I > > picked up at Charlotte over the weekend? Can't find anything on it > online. > > Has the following tube lineup: 6A6G, 6K7G, 6F6G, 5Y3GT, 6G5. Thanks! > > > > Photo at: http://tinyurl.com/ha4un > > Also posted to Alt.binaries.pictures.radio > > > > > > > > Jon Rudisill > > > > > > > > > Article: 332094 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon Rudisill" References: Subject: Re: Help identify Airline radio Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:16:18 -0500 Here's a link to a photo of the chassis: http://tinyurl.com/rlugm Also, I made an error in the original tube lineup. It should read: 6G5 (eye tube), 6A8G, 6K7G, 6F6G, 5Y3GT, 6Q7 Thanks for all help! Jon "Jon Rudisill" wrote in message news:WfFWf.607$L6.375@bignews5.bellsouth.net... > Can anyone identify the model number of this Montgomery Ward Airline I > picked up at Charlotte over the weekend? Can't find anything on it online. > Has the following tube lineup: 6A6G, 6K7G, 6F6G, 5Y3GT, 6G5. Thanks! > > Photo at: http://tinyurl.com/ha4un > Also posted to Alt.binaries.pictures.radio > > > > Jon Rudisill > > Article: 332095 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon Rudisill" References: Subject: Re: Help identify Airline radio Message-ID: Date: Wed, 29 Mar 2006 23:33:48 -0500 By golly, that's it. Thanks! Jon "jim menning" wrote in message news:B_IWf.37365$ty4.29705@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Jon Rudisill" wrote in message > news:JNIWf.647$L6.402@bignews5.bellsouth.net... > > There appeared to be a label on the chassis at one time, but it has been > > removed. There are no labels inside or outside the cabinet (it has been > > re-finished). > > > > Here's a picture of the chassis: http://tinyurl.com/rlugm > > > > Thanks! > > Jon > > Model 62-346. > > http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/465/M0011465.pdf > > Good luck with your project! > > jim menning > > > > Article: 332097 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Powers" References: Subject: Re: bias cell Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 05:25:26 GMT Dave, Thanks for the reply. I think I will remove the entire cell and try to rebuild it as you suggested. I had considered replacing it with a button cell, but hadn't thought about using the old device as a holder for the new cell. I'll give it a shot. If for some reason it doesn't work out, I can still try to use what I think is called an "auto-bias" approach that Radio Rambler was also kind enough to suggest. I've seen that approach used in later designs. Frankly, when I first looked in the chassis and saw the bias cell I had no idea what it was. There's a first time for everything I guess. JP "Dave McClellan" wrote in message news:ahuWf.1073$uL.780@fe05.lga... > If the wires to terminals on the bias cell holder board can be reversed > (i.e. one is not hard connected to the chassis), it's a simple matter to > remove the cell, clean out the content completely, and install a small > button cell (I use type LR44/A76 'cause they are cheap on eBay). The > voltage is close enough, but beware: THE POLARITY WILL BE REVERSED if you > do > not reverse the leads to the holder. The pressure of the spring clip can > be > adjusted to retain both the original cell (now just a retainer for the > button cell) as well as the button cell itself. > > I start by drilling several holes in the carbon top, then break out the > pieces, remove the remnants of the rubber seal, and remove the > contents/chemicals. I then clean out the case using a Dremel moto tool > and > wire brush. The button cell is then inserted with the + side inward. > Remount the cell in the holder. Make sure the spring clip only touches > the > smaller negative area of the cell and does not short out the cell. > > I a couple of cases where I could not reverse the leads to the holder > board, > I was able to place a brass nut in the bottom of the old cell for spacing, > and insulate the + shell of the button cell from the wall of the old bias > cell using shrink tubing. > > To me, this beats installing a Radio Shack plastic holder and a AA or AAA > battery. > > Dave > > "John Powers" wrote in message > news:zkqWf.5958$HW2.194@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> specific question is about a thing called a "bias cell" that is between > the >> volume control wiper and the grid of the 6F5 first stage audio amp. I >> read >> some stuff here: http://www.philcorepairbench.com/biascell.htm about the >> bias cell in general, but I'm wondering if the best idea would be to > replace >> it with something else? I don't even know what the voltage of this one is >> supposed to be. I can tell that what is apparently the seal is mostly > rotted >> away. >> >> Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Thanks, >> >> John Powers >> >> > > Article: 332098 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: 5881 audio o/p tube/valve question Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 12:15:31 +0100 Message-ID: What is the function of a 390pF ,2KV capacitor between Anode/Plate and ground of each driver tube of a Russian audio amp, I can find no other manufacturer's schematic examples of 5881 or 6L6 in push-pull configuration with these Cs. ? -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ Article: 332099 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <122mg5jcdg56f90@corp.supernews.com> <8AHWf.6639$FD4.4615@dukeread07> <122mja1ift4kjaf@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:16:44 -0500 "Hagstar" wrote in message news:122mja1ift4kjaf@corp.supernews.com... > PAGE 69 PHILCO BOOK LATE MODEL PHILCO 116 TOMBSTONE BY DOUG HOUSTON, SAME > AS MY WEBSITE- > http://home.att.net/~yonny/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-13392.html > > EIGHT, REPEAT EIGHT INCH SPEAKER JUST MEASURED MINE TO BE SURE. NEVER HAVE > SEEN ONE WITH A 10" SPEAKER. YOU DON'T WANT ONE EITHER, LIKE I SAID. > > PERHAPS YOUR HAS A RARE OPTIONAL SPEAKER. > > JOHN H. > John I don't have THAT model 116. The one I have is the EARLY 116 model, with a 10 inch speaker. It has the correct speaker. Pete > Article: 332100 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <122mg5jcdg56f90@corp.supernews.com> <8AHWf.6639$FD4.4615@dukeread07> <122mja1ift4kjaf@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:21:58 -0500 "Hagstar" wrote in message news:122mja1ift4kjaf@corp.supernews.com... > PAGE 69 PHILCO BOOK LATE MODEL PHILCO 116 TOMBSTONE BY DOUG HOUSTON, SAME > AS MY WEBSITE- > http://home.att.net/~yonny/wsb/html/view.cgi-photo.html--SiteID-13392.html > Yonny We were talking about the LATE model 16B, not your LATE 116. My EARLY 116 has a ten inch speaker. Photo on binaries. Pete > Article: 332101 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" References: <122lvtris90cf7b@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 06:52:48 -0500 I hope you insist that the speaker be removed and packed separately for shipment. This radio would stand little chance of making it through shipping with so little "meat" holding the speaker in place. One drop and the grill is gone. Been there, done that. "Hagstar" wrote in message news:122lvtris90cf7b@corp.supernews.com... > > "TerryJ" wrote in message > news:X6WdndzCs9zMfbfZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com... > > It appears to have an adapter board with a smaller speaker. Ask the seller > > whats up. > > > > > > It has the original speaker- THAT'S what's up. IF it was a replacement I > would have disclosed it! Yes, Philco used an 8" speaker on that monster > chassis- please note a different size speaker wouldn't FIT on the screws. > Philco also used that 8" speaker on the late model 116 tombstone- I know, I > have one. > > John H. > Vermont Console Rescue > eBay's "yonny" > > Article: 332102 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <122lvtris90cf7b@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 07:37:00 -0500 "Dave McClellan" wrote in message news:MHPWf.1979$EC6.1502@fe04.lga... > I hope you insist that the speaker be removed and packed separately for > shipment. This radio would stand little chance of making it through > shipping with so little "meat" holding the speaker in place. One drop and > the grill is gone. Been there, done that. > Amen, Esp. Philcos with massive speakers bolted to the skinny fret rails. Pete > Article: 332103 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FA: Philco 16B Cathedral From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa /W4 Snowbird) References: <1143688249.634041.80630@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <6TQWf.115129$g47.14501@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 13:16:50 GMT In article <1143688249.634041.80630@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, eb062559@aol.com says... > > >10 incher in my pointed top tombstone. 8 incher in the cathedral. i >guess i was wrong about later 16 tombstones having the 8 inch speaker. >obviously thet ALL have 10 inch except the cathedral. correct? > thats what I said three days ago.... Mark said this also... the 4 band later design is THE TOP ONE to have of the different versions of the electronics... I AGREE 100% Next Item about this radio... if you have a 4 bander with the lamps that are shoved into 4 holes ... if you ship this radio... you must remove that gizmo otherwise it WILL BREAK FROM VIBRATION .. only takes two small screws removed from variable capacitor ... the weight of that thing is too high for the aged metal bracket... I had the above bracket break on two of these radios in shipment.. one was shipped to my customer from Alan Jesperson.. and we know that Alan knows how to pack a radio.. the other was also from a collector who knows how to pack... no damage to the boxes in either case... just that whole lamp bracket sheared off and it is a pain to fix it .. John k9uwa /w4 Article: 332104 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 08:48:35 -0500 Message-ID: <122nodpsli7kk7f@corp.supernews.com> References: <122mg5jcdg56f90@corp.supernews.com> <8AHWf.6639$FD4.4615@dukeread07> <122mja1ift4kjaf@corp.supernews.com> I thought you said you had all of them :)............ "Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:t6PWf.7888 > I don't have THAT model 116. The one I have is the EARLY 116 model, with > a > 10 inch speaker. Article: 332105 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1143713264.925030.165630@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Unfortunate name for a phono Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 08:44:11 -0500 "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:1143713264.925030.165630@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > Could he be related to the fellow at Chevrolet, who named the Nova? > The car was out for years, and executives were scratching their heads > as to why the car sold well in the US, but sales were horrible in > Mexico and other Spanish speaking countries. That was when somebody > determined that "Nova" in spanish means "will not go." > > Gary Tayman > 78's & 45's http://spanish.about.com/cs/culture/a/chevy_nova.htm In the same league as the "termites in mulch"... http://www.tennessean.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060311/COLUMNIST0402/603110311/1113 Syl Article: 332106 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 08:51:51 -0500 Message-ID: <122noju1qddhsd6@corp.supernews.com> References: <122lvtris90cf7b@corp.supernews.com> Yes, I will. "Dave McClellan" wrote in message news:MHPWf.1979$EC6.1502@fe04.lga... >I hope you insist that the speaker be removed and packed separately for > shipment. Article: 332107 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <442C0372.6BACF199@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FA: Philco 16B Cathedral References: <122mbe0j1u4vaf9@corp.supernews.com> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:13:12 GMT Hagstar wrote: > > Perhaps everyone got Type 2 diabetes from the excessive sweetness of the > description. > > John H. As someone who has a daily battle with Type 2 Diabetes I don't find that the least bit funny. I had another visit to my doctor yesterday about it and my medications have been changed again for the third time in less than six months. It is destroying my eyesight and causing other health problems. Diabetes is not a joke. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 332108 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: bias cell Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 08:09:30 -0800 Message-ID: <22610-442C02BA-96@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> References: Actually the use of bias cells was very short lived in the development of what evolved to be called the 'AA5' radio. It was soon learned that the 1st AF tube (such as 12AV6 etc.) was quite happy to run with no bias on the grid. Look at a typical schematic. Fact is, in a set using a bias cell, you can probably eliminate it with no ill effect; just short it out. At the high plate impedance involved, you're not gonna fry anything. And the operating point will stay within the linear part of the curve (usually) so no distortion is introduced. Just for the heck of it, try it temporarily and see, watching the plate voltage with the bias cell shorted and un-shorted. (Of course you'd remove the cell before putting the shorting jumper in place). Robert Casey, the resident mavin on the subject, could probably comment further, either yay or nay. Bill(oc) Article: 332109 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <442C03F1.6558F079@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Unfortunate name for a phono References: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 16:15:18 GMT John Stone wrote: > > Could you do something about your computer clock? Your date is set to > 7/30/06 and that parks all your messages permanently at the top of my news > reader. Can't you select "Hide read messages" in Microsoft-Entourage/11.2.1.051004? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 332110 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: Subject: Re: wow... AA5 Zenith on eBay.... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:44:57 GMT Hi! That's the kind of radio I'd like to find someday. (Obviously not for that price...and it wouldn't have to be quite that nice...) How long were Zenith radios affected by "FM drift"? I've noticed that all my Zenith sets except one (not mentioned in the links below) do have drift on the FM band while they are warming up. http://greyghost.dyndns.org/radiocollection/zenith7C05.htm http://greyghost.dyndns.org/radiocollection/zenithC845L.htm Both of the above are great radios, but something a bit smaller would be nice...maybe someday I'll find one... William Article: 332111 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: wow... AA5 Zenith on eBay.... Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:02:07 -0400 Message-ID: <122olb1k0a24020@corp.supernews.com> References: William R. Walsh wrote: > > How long were Zenith radios affected by "FM drift"? I've noticed that all my > Zenith sets except one (not mentioned in the links below) do have drift on > the FM band while they are warming up. In the late 50s they began adding AFC circuitry. (Automatic Frequency Control). These sets are usually noted by two positions on the switch FM and FM-AFC. -Bill Article: 332112 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: FA: Philco 16B Cathedral Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:56:58 -0500 Message-ID: <122ooi1e9sk2ed9@corp.supernews.com> References: <1143688249.634041.80630@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <6TQWf.115129$g47.14501@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> <1143739525.544072.299830@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> You are correct eddie- NO 16B ever came with other than a 10" speaker. It's only the latest model 116 tombstone that had the 8". John H. "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1143739525.544072.299830@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > mark says i was right to begin with .whichisit > Article: 332113 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: RCA D-22 on eBay!!! Not mine... Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:02:55 -0500 Message-ID: <122oot6in0s1384@corp.supernews.com> References: <7L2dnVbgBLgbarTZnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com> <122k1vcfmghjf30@corp.supernews.com> Sure, one COULD rebuild this one- make a new door and all the other missing parts. And I've done plenty of sets as bad, the point is that's why my attic was and your basement is filling up. One could do eight sorta bad sets for the effort this one would take. It likely works better than a Strat but it LOOKS *so* dull comparatively. That's why Stein says $750- for a nice complete D-22, cruel but not too far off. "Keith Park" wrote in message news:WAGWf.36295$jf2.1363@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Come on! If I lived in Iowa Id be all over it! Article: 332114 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: lampbay Subject: Vintage JBL L19 Lansing Floor Wall Stereo Speakers VG Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:38:47 -0600 Message-ID: Vintage JBL L19 Lansing Floor Wall Stereo Speakers VG Item number: 9706092668 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9706092668 *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 332115 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <122mg5jcdg56f90@corp.supernews.com> <8AHWf.6639$FD4.4615@dukeread07> <122mja1ift4kjaf@corp.supernews.com> <122nodpsli7kk7f@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Message-ID: Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 19:11:17 -0500 "Hagstar" wrote in message news:122nodpsli7kk7f@corp.supernews.com... > I thought you said you had all of them :)............ > 16B's son, not the 116!! Arrr arrr. Article: 332116 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: BAMA Printing PROBS Message-ID: <%f%Wf.8907$9h5.7657@dukeread09> Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:06:01 -0500 I cannot print my download from BAMA. There is a file there for a signal generator AN/URM-25 manual, TM 11-6625-603-40P. I downloaded this file and filed it. When I use DJVU, a msg says my copy is out of date. I tried Infranview, will not extract the file. Any idea how this is done? I have never been able to get anything from BAMA since DJVU stopped working. Ken Article: 332117 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim Barnard" Subject: Re: Black Denim Trousers Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:16:11 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1143759251.264563.141850@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Gary: According to Norman Nite in his book "Rock On", Vaughn Monroe recorded Black Demin Trousers on the RCA label September, 1955. Vaugh Monroe was born in 1911 and died in 1973. The Cheers also released their recording the same month September, 1955 on the Capitol label. It was the Cheer's version that became a national hit for them. If you are in old Rock stuff, may I suggest the above book. It has a world of old rock group info. Long out of print, it still can be found using Amazon's partner used booksellers. Hope this helps. - Jim Barnard www.transistor-repairs.com Specializing in Zenith Transistor Radio Repair/Restoration "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:1143759251.264563.141850@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hey guys -- I know this might be slightly OT, but some of you may know > a little something about this. > > Remember a little while ago I was sorting through several crates of > 78's? Well, today I managed to bring more of them home. I've found > another handful of goodies -- but there's one song in particular that > interests me. On RCA, with the color label that tells me it's in the > mid 50's, "Black Denim Trousers and Motorcycle Boots" by Vaughn Monroe! > > I've already got the song by -- who I thought was the original -- The > Cheers, on a 45. Playing the Vaughn Monroe record, it sounds a bit > like Perry Como trying to sing Rock Around the Clock, but actually if I > wasn't used to hearing the Cheers version, it's really kind of a cool > recording. But now the question, who originally recorded the song? > Surfing the internet, I've found references to the Cheers, to Vaughn > Monroe, and also to the Diamonds. Geez! > > I can be safe in assuming the Diamonds covered it, as they've covered > other songs. But did Vaughn Monroe do this, and the Cheers brought it > to the rock 'n roll listeners, or was it the other way around? If > anyone can provide some insight, I'm ready to hear it. > > Gary Tayman > 78's & 45's > Article: 332118 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Registered User Subject: Re: Black Denim Trousers Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:00:25 -0500 Message-ID: References: <1143759251.264563.141850@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 30 Mar 2006 14:54:11 -0800, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >Hey guys -- I know this might be slightly OT, but some of you may know >a little something about this. > >Remember a little while ago I was sorting through several crates of >78's? Well, today I managed to bring more of them home. I've found >another handful of goodies -- but there's one song in particular that >interests me. On RCA, with the color label that tells me it's in the >mid 50's, "Black Denim Trousers and Motorcycle Boots" by Vaughn Monroe! > >I've already got the song by -- who I thought was the original -- The >Cheers, on a 45. Playing the Vaughn Monroe record, it sounds a bit >like Perry Como trying to sing Rock Around the Clock, but actually if I >wasn't used to hearing the Cheers version, it's really kind of a cool >recording. But now the question, who originally recorded the song? >Surfing the internet, I've found references to the Cheers, to Vaughn >Monroe, and also to the Diamonds. Geez! > >I can be safe in assuming the Diamonds covered it, as they've covered >other songs. But did Vaughn Monroe do this, and the Cheers brought it >to the rock 'n roll listeners, or was it the other way around? If >anyone can provide some insight, I'm ready to hear it. > Jerry Leiber and Mike Stoller are credited as the composers. -- NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Article: 332119 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: FM Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:33:57 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4427fb3f$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net> <1gmh22p2hubsiba4chks6q75q67stsm6ee@4ax.com> In jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) writes: >I would think a radio manufacturer would have relished the opportunity to >sell everyone new FM radios to replace the old AM radios made obsolete by >the conversion to FM. Perhaps. It's a tricky call for a manufacturer. You have to keep innovating -- if you don't, sooner or later someone else will. There's a risk the new product will flop. This is not what I had in mind, or addressed, in my first statement, but in hindsight it could've been part of Sarnoff's decision. After all, FM did take a while to take off after the war. But I digress... >As far as unsold AM radios go, you make it sound >like the conversion from AM to FM would have taken place overnight, surely >it would have taken two or three years time before all radio broadcasting >was on the FM band, giving plenty of time to dispose of the inventory of >obsolete AM radios. Also don't forget that the Great Depression was just >ending, so those at the lower end of the economic ladder might not be able >to afford an expensive new FM radio right away, which would delay the >total conversion from AM to FM beyond a two to three year time frame. I certainly didn't mean to imply the conversion would have taken place overnight. My perfunctory apologies if you got that impression. Nevertheless, history is rife with companies being saddled with inventory viewed as outdated in light of a new product announcement. Victor had this problem at one point due to a revolutionary new product line. Their dealers had to take one for the team and put up with a year of bad sales while the public waited for the new machines. Of course, in the long run it panned out. >I think converting from AM to FM would have been a radio manufacturers >dream if that was all there was to it. Insofar as answering your question about infrastructure, I think Desert Bob's explanation makes more sense than my guess. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 332120 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <7L2dnVbgBLgbarTZnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com> <122k1vcfmghjf30@corp.supernews.com> <122oot6in0s1384@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: RCA D-22 on eBay!!! Not mine... Message-ID: <_60Xf.38015$jf2.31771@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 02:04:42 GMT TRUE! How true! And I did better this winter by not trying to resurrect one from the dead... but I still need to keep hold of myself in certain places like Kutztown ;-) Keith "Hagstar" wrote in message news:122oot6in0s1384@corp.supernews.com... > Sure, one COULD rebuild this one- make a new door and all the other > missing parts. And I've done plenty of sets as bad, the point is that's > why my attic was and your basement is filling up. One could do eight sorta > bad sets for the effort this one would take. It likely works better than a > Strat but it LOOKS *so* dull comparatively. That's why Stein says $750- > for a nice complete D-22, cruel but not too far off. > "Keith Park" wrote in message > news:WAGWf.36295$jf2.1363@twister.nyroc.rr.com... >> Come on! If I lived in Iowa Id be all over it! > > > Article: 332121 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FM Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 18:09:06 -0800 Message-ID: References: <4427fb3f$1_3@newsfeed.slurp.net> <1gmh22p2hubsiba4chks6q75q67stsm6ee@4ax.com> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 17:42:23 -0600, jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) wrote: >In article , >As an aside, are you sure that the "AT&T wired program circuits" were >actually "4 and 8 KHz"? I thought they were 5 and 8 kHz, with 5 kHz being >by far the most common. You are quite correct. Each Program Channel Unit, or "PGCU," used two channels in the middle of an analog group of 12 voice channels, single sideband/supressed carrier, and the program circtui rode on the spectrum usually used by channels 6 and 7, using the regular channel 7 carrier frequency. Even though 5 KHz and 8 KHz used the same amount of bandwidth, AT&T and its operating companies had tarriffed both classes of service at different rates. Thus, when an order came in for an 8 KHz feed, all the testboardman would do is turn a wafer switch in the PGCU that would change the crystal filter to add the extra top end. I used to cheat and leave them on 8 KHz, which would make NBC and CBS QUITE happy. Someone would then see they were on 8 KHz and knock them back down to 5, and a trouble call to the program testboard would ensue in short order, usually from NBC first, who bitched about anything, whether they paid for it or not. For a "4 KHz feed," one would just put up a patch from the program testboard to the "L" carrier voice testboard and use a spare voice channel going in the direction of the feed. Network TV used these patch circuits for years for backup audio and for talkback circuits. Mutual, in its waning days, used 4 KHz circuits almost exclusively. Of course, a "4 KHz circuit" really wasn't; it was a standard C-weighted message circuit of 300 Hz-3.300 KHz, but that was good enough for Mutual. When the 15 KHz PGCUs were first tarriffed around 1978, the first full period user was NBC for TV audio. Shortly thereafter, 15 KHz stereo PGCUs were tarriffed, using a Seimens dual sideband/suppressed carrier channel unit, and NPR was the first user of that in our territory. Lucky us...the manuals supplied by Seimens were printed in Deutsch, and all specs were CCITT. Article: 332122 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <122lvtris90cf7b@corp.supernews.com> <3EGWf.36298$jf2.15911@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <122mfp08o1qdg9e@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 02:12:45 GMT The size of my basement is the ONLY thing that keeps me from getting out of hand! and the size of my house makes me occationally sell something I wish I didnt have to as well, like my 9 S 262. Im still trying to figure out where O where will I put that 38-116 Im doing right now?? Oh and yea, Im really hoping I live to 100 as well! :-) Keith >> > > Keith, you are one of the people I think of first when I'm driven to sell > things. You, and your giant cramped cellar filled with consoles quietly > peeling away in the darkness. The belief you will "get to" all of them is > your hedge against your own mortality. I note that not one of your radios > ever sees the light of day unless it's at full retail. At this rate if you > hire a full time helper or three there might be only a few dozen at your > estate sale still untouched. > > My inspiration is lately tends more folks like my friend Dennis D. who > thinks of any radio not restored in six months needs to be sold or parted > out or SOMETHING. I have no idea personally WHY anyone would keep around > multiple copies of an IDENTICAL chassis in different cabinets. And said > cabinets look exactly the same as other Philcos, only different sizes. I > decided the 16B with the smallest speaker could afford to go. The 3630 is > on the 'Bay too because I have a shouldered 116 almost done that blows its > doors off in every way and looks identical. > > Give me a break. > > John H. > Article: 332123 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: New element discovered! Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 03:19:05 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: The heaviest element known to science was recently discovered by researchers at the University of Fulchester. The element, tentatively named Administratium, has no protons or electrons and thus has an atomic number of 0. However, it does have 1 neutron, 125 assistant neutrons, 75 vice neutrons and 111 assistant vice neutrons. This gives it an atomic mass of 312. These 312 particles are held together by a force that involves the continuous exchange of meson-like particles called morons. Since it has no electrons, Administratium is inert. However, it can be detected chemically as it impedes every reaction it comes in contact with. According to the discoverers, a minute amount of Administratium caused one reaction to take over four days to complete when it would have normally occurred in less than one second. Administratium has a normal half-life of approximately three years, at which time it does not actually decay but instead undergoes a reorganization in which assistant neutrons, vice neutrons and assistant vice neutrons exchange places. Some studies have shown that the atomic mass actually increases after each reorganization. Research at other laboratories indicates that Administratium occurs naturally in the atmosphere. It tends to concentrate at certain points such as government agencies, large corporations and universities and can usually be found in the newest and best appointed buildings. Scientists point out that Administratium is known to be toxic at any level of concentration and can easily destroy any productive reaction where it is allowed to accumulate. Attempts are being made to determine how Administratium can be controlled to prevent irreversible damage, but results to date are not promising. Use extreme caution when you encounter this element. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 332124 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "t.hoehler" References: <122lvtris90cf7b@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 03:57:08 GMT " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:KhQWf.8033$FD4.2763@dukeread07... > > "Dave McClellan" wrote in message > news:MHPWf.1979$EC6.1502@fe04.lga... >> I hope you insist that the speaker be removed and packed separately for >> shipment. This radio would stand little chance of making it through >> shipping with so little "meat" holding the speaker in place. One drop >> and >> the grill is gone. Been there, done that. >> > > Amen, > > Esp. Philcos with massive speakers bolted to the skinny fret rails. > > Pete I wonder how the grille survived the original shipping from the factory so many years ago? Regards, Tom Article: 332126 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "t.hoehler" References: Subject: Re: Unfortunate name for a phono Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 04:04:02 GMT "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:XumdnRDXafdHSbbZRVn-rg@comcast.com... > The skipper is the ship's captain, so perhaps the name was supposed to > suggest that anyone owning this model was in command of entertainment! > > This is clearly a portable product. Did it connect to any power source > other > than 120V AC? > >Yes, it has battery compartments inside for the flashlight cells that run >the motor and filaments, and a B battery. Incidentally, the battery powered >motor doesn't maintain speed very well, and this is a single play manual >turntable. There was an AC adaptor available, it used a seven pin connector >(seven pin miniature tube socket). Regards, Tom Article: 332127 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: COOL- FA- Not Mine Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:15:05 -0500 Message-ID: <122pb6g12ijbs98@corp.supernews.com> http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-Photo-RADIO-STORE-INTERIOR-Phonograph-FURNITURE_W0QQitemZ6221146874QQcategoryZ14279QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem John H. Article: 332129 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: New element discovered! Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 20:12:49 -0800 Message-ID: <28370-442CAC41-152@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> References: Even more hazardous is dihydrogen monoxide. :-) oc Article: 332130 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: New element discovered! Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 04:40:38 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <28370-442CAC41-152@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> In "William Sommerwerck" writes: >> Even more hazardous is dihydrogen monoxide. >Which is nowhere nearly as deadly as oxygen dihydride. Ah, you guys are both all wet! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 332132 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: Subject: Re: New element discovered! Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 23:10:34 -0600 Message-ID: <442cb482$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net> "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:e0i739$t7r$1@reader1.panix.com... >According to the discoverers, a minute amount > of Administratium caused one reaction to take over four days to > complete when it would have normally occurred in less than one > second. Reminds me of my favorite anti-Mgt. joke from the Hacker's Dictionary. suit: n. 1. Ugly and uncomfortable 'business clothing' often worn by non-hackers. Invariably worn with a 'tie', a strangulation device that partially cuts off the blood supply to the brain. It is thought that this explains much about the behavior of suit-wearers. 2. A person who habitually wears suits, as distinct from a techie or hacker. See pointy-haired, burble, management, Stupids, SNAFU principle, PHB, and brain-damaged. paul Article: 332133 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <442CBA3B.9F8BC05C@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FA: Philco 16B Cathedral References: <122mbe0j1u4vaf9@corp.supernews.com> <442C0372.6BACF199@earthlink.net> <122oof1nk4th3a8@corp.supernews.com> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 05:12:43 GMT Hagstar wrote: > > My grandfather died of it as well, I say these things to remind folks that > this is 90% a lifestyle related disease that is growing by leaps and bounds. > Actual leaping and bounding helps prevent it. Donuts = disability. He was > fond of lecturing us about them with a Highball in his hand. Sorry, Michael, > growing up in NYC has left my humor grey to black. > > John H. John, my diet is almost the same as it was before I was diagnosed with Diabetes. It was scaled back by about 15% when I could no longer spend most of the day on my feet. When I had the consult with the VA dietitian I was told that I was a little low on carbohydrates, but the rest of diet was excellent. I've never had much of a sweet tooth, and diabetes runs in the family. Its not always from running around stuffing your face with every sweet treat in sight. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 332134 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: BAMA Printing PROBS Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:05:48 -0800 Message-ID: References: <%f%Wf.8907$9h5.7657@dukeread09> Ken wrote: > I cannot print my download from BAMA. There is a file there for a signal > generator AN/URM-25 manual, TM 11-6625-603-40P. I downloaded this file > and filed it. When I use DJVU, a msg says my copy is out of date. I > tried Infranview, will not extract the file. Any idea how this is done? > I have never been able to get anything from BAMA since DJVU stopped > working. Ken > I am only guessing here, but it appears that you are attempting to open this document using DjVu solo, correct? I just downloaded the file you are referencing and it opened just fine using the browser plugin. When I attempt open it using DjVu solo, it does indeed open but with a warning that the program is too old to read the file. One wonders why you'd want to print this, though.... All it is is a single page document containing the problem reporting sheet used to report typos in the manual....There's nothing there that will help you in any way with the operation or troubleshooting of the equipment in question. The easiest immediate work-around for your problem is to avoid DjVu altogether and download the PDF formatted versions of the manuals, which are available from BAMA here: http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/military-kg7bz/urm25/ Longer term, you might want to try a non-lizardtech standalone DjVu viewer. One such viewer is here: http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/windjview/WinDjView-0.4.1.exe I was able to open the document you mentioned with this viewer without problems, as well as several others, so I know it works. Here's another one....Works good, but no printing capability (sigh): http://opendjvu.webhost.ru/djvureader.zip From a technical standpoint, Djvu is a marvelous file format for electronic distribution of most types of documentation used in our hobby, a very worthy competitor to Acrobat, but the support from Lizardtech, the only company producing commercial DjVu products for windows, can best be described as sucky. Quite a few early-adopters who enthusiastically embraced DjVu in its early days have now given up in frustration. Here is a quote about this, directly from the BAMA site: "For almost three years BAMA made extensive use of this (Djvu) format. However, the current owner of the patents, Lizard Tech, have not corrected serious problems with the DjVu plugin. There are a number of problems, but those associated with printing of pages from a DjVu file are particularly frustrating. Therefore, new files added to the BAMA collection will not be encoded in DjVu unless they are submitted in that format. Instead, Adobe Acrobat will be used to encode the files in pdf format. Beginning on January 4, 2001, new material added to the BAMA collection, whenever possible, was stored in the DjVu format. The promise of DjVu was great. It is regrettable that Lizard Tech failed to continue the excellent support that AT&T had provided." -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 332137 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: wow... AA5 Zenith on eBay.... Date: Thu, 30 Mar 2006 21:40:41 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1143684336.577838.68220@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1143729668.141394.58130@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> AuroraOldRadios wrote: > In a couple of years when this radio comes up for sale again, the > seller is going to get a rude awakening. > As for the rest of us, the next time we see this model at the flea > market or antique store, guess what the price will be? seller will say > "same one sold on Ebay for over $700" > Is there something I'm missing here? I bought one of these at a swap about three months ago...I think I paid less than $20.00 for it unrestored. The cabinet finish is absolutely plain-jane; anyone here who does cabinets on a regular basis could make mine look every bit as good as the one in the ebay listing in short order. I owned another one about 25 years ago, and have seen others, So this one isn't particularly rare. It is a cute set, but $700.00? I wouldn't bid that much if I was Bill Gates. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 332138 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: New element discovered! References: <28370-442CAC41-152@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 01:21:23 -0600 Tim Mullen wrote: > In "William Sommerwerck" writes: > >>> Even more hazardous is dihydrogen monoxide. > >> Which is nowhere nearly as deadly as oxygen dihydride. > > Ah, you guys are both all wet! > They're making me thirsty.... Article: 332139 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <122lvtris90cf7b@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Philco 16B Cathedral Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 03:35:02 -0500 "t.hoehler" wrote in message news:oM1Xf.899767$xm3.437105@attbi_s21... > > > I wonder how the grille survived the original shipping from the factory so > many years ago? > Regards, > Tom > I have quite a few Philcos. One thing I've noticed is that the wood tends to delaminate and weaken in that area. That's one reason they are prone to break when stressed in shipment. Pete Article: 332140 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <%f%Wf.8907$9h5.7657@dukeread09> Subject: Re: BAMA Printing PROBS Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:07:21 -0500 "Ken" wrote in message news:%f%Wf.8907$9h5.7657@dukeread09... >I cannot print my download from BAMA. There is a file there for a signal >generator AN/URM-25 manual, TM 11-6625-603-40P. I downloaded this file and >filed it. When I use DJVU, a msg says my copy is out of date. I tried >Infranview, will not extract the file. Any idea how this is done? I have >never been able to get anything from BAMA since DJVU stopped working. Ken go to my website: www.oldradioz.com Click on "read more" under schematics.... Half way down in the page there is a link to the DJVU browser. Download and install, it'll fix the problem. Syl Article: 332141 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: FA: Philco 16B Cathedral Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:33:34 -0500 Message-ID: <122q8d6lsu9c5a6@corp.supernews.com> References: <122mbe0j1u4vaf9@corp.supernews.com> <442C0372.6BACF199@earthlink.net> <122oof1nk4th3a8@corp.supernews.com> <442CBA3B.9F8BC05C@earthlink.net> Guess you're the 10% then. John H. Article: 332142 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: FA Not Mine Nice Philco 116 in Twin Cities Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:47:02 -0500 Message-ID: <122q96eqkm0o053@corp.supernews.com> Another lost soul- http://cgi.ebay.com/1936-ANTIQUE-MODEL-116-PHILCO-HIGH-FIDELITY-RADIO_W0QQitemZ6617585594 No, those extra speakers don't do too much. John H. Article: 332143 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: BAMA Printing PROBS References: <%f%Wf.8907$9h5.7657@dukeread09> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 07:51:34 -0500 Thanks, Scott. You're right, no usuable info there. That file was all Bama had on this AN/URM-25 unit, I thought it might be an op manual on it. Ken Scott W. Harvey wrote: > Ken wrote: > >> I cannot print my download from BAMA. There is a file there for a >> signal generator AN/URM-25 manual, TM 11-6625-603-40P. I downloaded >> this file and filed it. When I use DJVU, a msg says my copy is out of >> date. I tried Infranview, will not extract the file. Any idea how this >> is done? I have never been able to get anything from BAMA since DJVU >> stopped working. Ken >> > > I am only guessing here, but it appears that you are attempting to open > this document using DjVu solo, correct? > > I just downloaded the file you are referencing and it opened just fine > using the browser plugin. When I attempt open it using DjVu solo, it > does indeed open but with a warning that the program is too old to read > the file. > > One wonders why you'd want to print this, though.... All it is is a > single page document containing the problem reporting sheet used to > report typos in the manual....There's nothing there that will help you > in any way with the operation or troubleshooting of the equipment in > question. > > The easiest immediate work-around for your problem is to avoid DjVu > altogether and download the PDF formatted versions of the manuals, which > are available from BAMA here: > > http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/military-kg7bz/urm25/ > > Longer term, you might want to try a non-lizardtech standalone DjVu > viewer. One such viewer is here: > > http://easynews.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/windjview/WinDjView-0.4.1.exe > > > I was able to open the document you mentioned with this viewer without > problems, as well as several others, so I know it works. > > Here's another one....Works good, but no printing capability (sigh): > > http://opendjvu.webhost.ru/djvureader.zip > > From a technical standpoint, Djvu is a marvelous file format for > electronic distribution of most types of documentation used in our > hobby, a very worthy competitor to Acrobat, but the support from > Lizardtech, the only company producing commercial DjVu products for > windows, can best be described as sucky. Quite a few early-adopters who > enthusiastically embraced DjVu in its early days have now given up in > frustration. Here is a quote about this, directly from the BAMA site: > > "For almost three years BAMA made extensive use of this (Djvu) format. > However, the current owner of the patents, Lizard Tech, have not > corrected serious problems with the DjVu plugin. There are a number of > problems, but those associated with printing of pages from a DjVu file > are particularly frustrating. Therefore, new files added to the BAMA > collection will not be encoded in DjVu unless they are submitted in that > format. Instead, Adobe Acrobat will be used to encode the files in pdf > format. > > Beginning on January 4, 2001, new material added to the BAMA collection, > whenever possible, was stored in the DjVu format. The promise of DjVu > was great. It is regrettable that Lizard Tech failed to continue the > excellent support that AT&T had provided." > > -Scott > > Article: 332146 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: lampbay Subject: FA: Ends Saturday! Vintage Sony Receiver and Cassette Recorder Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:46:33 -0600 Message-ID: FA: Ends Saturday! Vintage Sony Receiver and Cassette Recorder http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZlampbay *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 332148 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <06HWf.6576$FD4.5863@dukeread07> <22019-442B575A-48@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: bias cell Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:32:37 -0500 "Bill Sheppard" wrote in message news:22019-442B575A-48@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net... > From Uncle Peter: > > >I must be missing something here. the > >oldcoot said nothing about the chassis > >being below the center tap potential. > > I must be missin' sumpin' too. Mr. Rambler said: > > >...the control grid requires a negative DC >potential (approx 1 to 3 > volts) for grid > >biasing. the resistor does this because it > >provides the negative bias because it is > >connected below chassis ground > >potential. > > "Below chassis ground potential" suggests the set uses a back-bias > scheme, ie., a big tapped resistor from the ct of the power xfmr to > ground, the taps supplying negative bias voltages. However this would > obviate the need for a bias cell, would it not? > Where the bias cell is used, it's most always when the > 1st AF tube's cathode is grounded and the vol. control bottom lug is > also grounded.. and there's no back-bias source (power xfmr ct goes > directly to ground). > Maybe the particular set he's referring to uses a very > unusual topology. > > Bill(oc) > Hello Bill I remember some old posts where you could replace the bias cell with a very large grid bias resistor, and it work. I'm not exactly sure how the high value grid bias resistor allows the tube to self bias, perhaps you recall those discussions? Pete Article: 332149 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: BAMA Printing PROBS References: <%f%Wf.8907$9h5.7657@dukeread09> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:40:42 -0700 This is unfortunate. I downloaded both manuals (25D and 25F), and they both opened and printed fine from my standalone DejaVu Solo V3.1. I think this is the one that Syl and Daniele offer on their sites. Bill Jeffrey ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Ken wrote: > I cannot print my download from BAMA. There is a file there for a signal > generator AN/URM-25 manual, TM 11-6625-603-40P. I downloaded this file > and filed it. When I use DJVU, a msg says my copy is out of date. I > tried Infranview, will not extract the file. Any idea how this is done? > I have never been able to get anything from BAMA since DJVU stopped > working. Ken > Article: 332150 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: BAMA Printing PROBS References: <%f%Wf.8907$9h5.7657@dukeread09> Message-ID: <3mcXf.8945$9h5.861@dukeread09> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:59:55 -0500 The one I got from Syl says version 4. I still get the out of date msg. Ken Bill Jeffrey wrote: > This is unfortunate. I downloaded both manuals (25D and 25F), and they > both opened and printed fine from my standalone DejaVu Solo V3.1. I > think this is the one that Syl and Daniele offer on their sites. > > Bill Jeffrey > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Ken wrote: > >> I cannot print my download from BAMA. There is a file there for a >> signal generator AN/URM-25 manual, TM 11-6625-603-40P. I downloaded >> this file and filed it. When I use DJVU, a msg says my copy is out of >> date. I tried Infranview, will not extract the file. Any idea how this >> is done? I have never been able to get anything from BAMA since DJVU >> stopped working. Ken >> Article: 332151 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: bias cell Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 08:16:31 -0800 Message-ID: <2807-442D55DF-218@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> References: Pete: Yeah, 10 or 12 meg always worked good for me. Then a .005 cap from the wiper to grid (nowadays it'd be a .0047). Then if the set sounded too "bassy" i'd cut the cap's value down to roll it off. Also tried replacing the bias cell with a straight jumper and couldn't hear a dime's worth of difference. But it wouldn't be 'kosher' to leave it that way. The OP (John Powers) also said: >If for some reason it doesn't work out, I >can still try to use what I think is called >an "auto-bias" approach.. By "auto bias" presumably he means using a cathode resistor. That's probably doable on the particular set he's workin' on, which uses a 6F5.. but NOT with a tube that incorporates AVC diodes sharing the common cathode (6Q7, 6SQ7, 12AT6 etc.) which require the cathode to be at ground potential. oc Article: 332152 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: szekeres@pitt.edu (GregS) Subject: Re: What is the going rate for a speaker recone? Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:49:42 GMT Message-ID: References: <1143821534.580034.313000@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2M-dnW4HLZyHx7DZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> In article <2M-dnW4HLZyHx7DZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com>, "Mark Oppat" wrote: >usually around $5/inch diameter. However, as I have shown in my speaker >seminars, you can take a VERY trashed cone and make it work like new... so, >glue it up! You have nothing to loose. Work from the inside out... I like >GC Service Cement but other glues will work fine. Use rubber cement or >silicone in the surround area. > >Mark Oppat Shipping seems to ba a major cost in getting large drivers repaired. OK for nonreplacable drivers, but for new stuff, the difference in cost vs new is almost the same. A PVA is good for beefing up a cone. Elmers. One can also spray or just paint cones to look pretty. Flexable PVA's (not Elmers) are recommended for arounf the moving parts and reinforcing the paper or cloth surrounds. I once asked for a sample PVA a few years ago. They sent me a gallon! Yes I'm still using it allthough the shelf life expired long ago. Still works. greg >"AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message >news:1143821534.580034.313000@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> What is the going rate for a speaker recone? I did buy the Zenith 6S341 >> chassis/knobs and 49-206 8" speaker I mentioned in the Walton speaker >> thread. The cone works but it's in poor shape. It could be reglued, but >> if the cost of reconing isn't too high I might go that route. >> >> > > > Article: 332153 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: Ends Saturday! Vintage Sony Receiver and Cassette Recorder Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:14:33 GMT Spam delivery right on schedule. -- Mike Schultz "lampbay" wrote in message news:yospam-0B478C.08463331032006@free.teranews.com... > FA: Ends Saturday! Vintage Sony Receiver and Cassette Recorder > > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZlampbay > *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** > *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from > http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 332154 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: bias cell Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 09:44:33 -0800 Message-ID: <22987-442D6A81-13@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: >Not true! It just requires that the >common point of the detector >components be returned to the cathode >instead of ground. > >73, Roger So supposin' you are the designer, where are you gonna tie that common point EXCEPT to ground? oc Article: 332155 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <2807-442D55DF-218@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: bias cell Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:36:24 -0500 "Roger D Johnson" wrote in message news:csmdneBQcu5E-bDZnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@adelphia.com... > Bill Sheppard wrote: > > Pete: > > > > Yeah, 10 or 12 meg always worked good for me. > > Tube manual says 1 meg maximum from grid to ground! > > > > Yes, but the tube manual assumes a back biasing or cathode biasing scheme that forces the grid negative to cathode. When coverting battery sets that relied on a bias cell its been found that a higher value grid resistor will work--I am not sure of how this works, and I was wondering if Bill recalled the theory behind it. pete Article: 332156 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: bias cell Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 10:32:19 -0800 Message-ID: <2807-442D75B3-229@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> References: >Tube manual says 1 meg maximum from >grid to ground! > >Roger, 73 Sure. But have you ever wanted to experiment around with 'semi floating' the grid? There was once an interesting project in Popular Electronics called an "electronic electroscope". It used the triode section of a 6Q7 (the diodes were tied off and not used). The triode's grid comes out the top cap, to which a metal plate was attached as a sensor. Since the grid was *fully* floating, it was exquisitely sensitive to ambient electrostatic charges in the air. In series with the plate was an NE-2 neon bulb which would respond to static charges appearing on the grid, mimicking the action of the old-time gold-leaf electroscope. The tube's plate supply was unrectified AC so it was self-rectifying, conducting only on the positive swing. This feature allowed the neon a wider response curve than it woulda had if the supply were clamped at a fixed DC value. Some guys are strictly 'by the book'. Others like to experiment around 'outside the box'. Different strokes. oc Article: 332157 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: New element discovered! Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:13:13 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <442cb482$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net> <3MadnVWjWYOhgLDZRVn-jw@comcast.com> In <3MadnVWjWYOhgLDZRVn-jw@comcast.com> "William Sommerwerck" writes: >ZDNet recently posted an article about the perception that because Linux >advocates tend to dress in shorts and sandals, and have beards and long >hair, they're holding back the acceptance of Linux among stodgy >businesspeople. The biggest problem with the traditional sack suit is reduced mobility in the arms, hence a tendency to shoot oneself in the foot. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 332158 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Mutch Subject: Re: New element discovered! Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 14:21:26 -0500 Message-ID: References: <28370-442CAC41-152@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> jakdedert wrote: > Tim Mullen wrote: > >> In "William Sommerwerck" >> writes: >> >>>> Even more hazardous is dihydrogen monoxide. >> >> >>> Which is nowhere nearly as deadly as oxygen dihydride. >> >> >> Ah, you guys are both all wet! >> > They're making me thirsty.... > I want a drink...not a wash ! Article: 332159 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Cracked 78 References: <1143823788.755535.7230@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:20:42 GMT You could record it to your computer and get the software that will allow you to remove the tic caused by the crack. Gary Tayman wrote: > Here's one that may have been discussed before, but I'm curious as to > the final analysis. > > Digging through the 78's, I found a copy of Stan Freberg's "St. George > and the Dragonet." This record is an extremely clean copy, but -- it > has a hairline crack in it. It plays beautifully; the crack is barely > audible, and only in a couple spots. It's definitely a keeper, but > what ideas do you have for fixing this record and preventing further > damage? > > I can think of two types of glue, that "seep in" and fill cracks. The > first is super glue. There is a type out there with no retardants, > that's so quick that one drop will fill in the entire seam and dry in > the blink of an eye. The other is the liquid glue that's used today > for model airplanes. The plastic model glue is more of a solvent-based > stuff, which actually bonds the pieces of plastic together, rather than > filling the gap between them with adhesive. I think if this was a > vinyl record, the model airplane glue would be the better choice, but > what about shellac? > > Comments? > > Gary Tayman > 78's & 45's > Article: 332160 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Cracked 78 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:25:09 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1143823788.755535.7230@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8p-dnT0TfZd7ELDZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@athenet.net> In <8p-dnT0TfZd7ELDZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@athenet.net> philo writes: >As a matter of fact...you should record *all* your valuable 78's and >only play recordings of them... >but keep plenty of non-valuable 78's around for playing on your vintage >equipment! Here's a random question: How many plays were expected from a shellac 78 before even grandma would start to wince? Assuming reasonable care, and a new needle each and every play. I'd guess the design lifetime would've been at least 100 plays? I fully understand this question is most likely impossible to answer with any meaningful precision, but I just had to ask anyway. (Right now Benny Goodman's "Jersey Bounce" and The Revolting Cock's "Do Ya Think I'm Sexy?" are competing for aural space in my brain. I better go listen to something before Revco beats up Benny...) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 332161 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: bias cell Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:37:02 -0800 Message-ID: <28370-442DA0FE-215@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> References: <3rmdnanl5NC8BbDZnZ2dnUVZ_v2dnZ2d@adelphia.com> >If you are going to use a cathode resistor >in one of the combined diode/ triode >tubes, you must return the detector >components to the tube cathode rather >than chassis ground... > >73, Roger Yeah. But then how's that gonna affect the rest of the AVC loop which IS referanced to ground? The designers musta had good reasons for keeping the cathode grounded when using the combo diode-triode tubes. Just wunnerin' too, if hum might become an issue with a cathode resistor (like with a 6F5), due to capacitive coupling from the heater. But a large enough bypass cap should take care of it. Seems like pure economics drove the changeover to combo diode-triode tubes, permitting lowest parts count and simplest circuit topology. oc Article: 332162 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: bias cell Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 13:55:34 -0800 Message-ID: <28370-442DA556-216@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> References: <1143837609.850761.203000@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> >From Neil S.: >BUT in some other applications, the bias >cell(s) really are needed, so the blanket >idea that they can be eliminated >everwhere is definitely NOT true. Agreed, and duly noted. >I just wanted to clarify for any neophites >that might misunderstand. I have, for >example, a GE diecast portable that runs >off a single 2V lead-acid cell and the >power converter has no provision to >develop the negative bias needed for the >AF output tube, it being a battery tube >with the filament ground referenced. The >set has a holder for a stack of 3 bias >cells to provide the -4.5V bias needed on >that tube to establish proper zero signal >plate current. Now that you mention it, what do you bet that putting bias cells in AC sets was fortuitous - a spinoff of their prior use in battery sets? oc Article: 332163 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1143688249.634041.80630@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <6TQWf.115129$g47.14501@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> <1143739525.544072.299830@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FA: Philco 16B Cathedral Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:09:58 -0500 "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1143739525.544072.299830@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > mark says i was right to begin with. which is it? > A true collector would get one of each model to settle the issue. Pete I was wrong, there is one deco 16B I apparently don't have.. Article: 332164 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: lampbay Subject: Re: 4 days left! Vintage Sony STR-V55 FM Stereo Hi-Fi Receiver Tuner VG References: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:26:09 -0600 Message-ID: In article , DeserTBoB wrote: > On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 15:59:27 -0500, " Uncle Peter" > wrote: > > > >And slightly off topic for the newsgroup. Maybe some eBay complaints will > >bring good results. > > That's being mightily optomistic. "FraudBay" is very lax about > violations of their ToS these days. > > I apologize to the readers of this newsgroup. I could not find the charter FAQ before I posted and obviously these posts are not welcome here. I will cease and desist and if I find the charter I will read it. *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 332165 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: lampbay Subject: Apologies to readers of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:27:28 -0600 Message-ID: I apologize to the readers of this newsgroup. I could not find the charter FAQ before I posted and obviously these posts are not welcome here. And I also misposted here when I was meaning to post to rec.audio.marketplace which is directly adjacent to this newsgroup in my news group list. I will cease and desist and if I find the charter I will read it. *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 332166 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: lampbay Subject: Re: FA: Sony STR-V55 FM Stereo Hi-Fi Receiver Tuner VG References: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:28:43 -0600 Message-ID: In article , lampbay wrote: > FA: Sony STR-V55 FM Stereo Hi-Fi Receiver Tuner VG > I apologize to the readers of this newsgroup. I could not find the charter FAQ before I posted and obviously these posts are not welcome here. And I also misposted here when I was meaning to post to rec.audio.marketplace which is directly adjacent to this newsgroup in my news group list. I will cease and desist and if I find the charter I will read it. There's not much I can do about my free news server which adds a commercial at the end of every post. *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 332167 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: lampbay Subject: Re: FA: Sony TC-K77R Stereo Cassette Recorder Player VG References: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:29:00 -0600 Message-ID: In article , lampbay wrote: > FA: Sony TC-K77R Stereo Cassette Recorder Player VG > In article , lampbay wrote: > FA: Sony STR-V55 FM Stereo Hi-Fi Receiver Tuner VG > I apologize to the readers of this newsgroup. I could not find the charter FAQ before I posted and obviously these posts are not welcome here. And I also misposted here when I was meaning to post to rec.audio.marketplace which is directly adjacent to this newsgroup in my news group list. I will cease and desist and if I find the charter I will read it. There's not much I can do about my free news server which adds a commercial at the end of every post. *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 332168 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: lampbay Subject: Re: FA: 4 days left! Vintage Sony TC-K77R Stereo Cassette Recorder Player VG References: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:29:25 -0600 Message-ID: In article , lampbay wrote: > FA: 4 days left! Vintage Sony TC-K77R Stereo Cassette Recorder Player VG > In article , lampbay wrote: > FA: Sony STR-V55 FM Stereo Hi-Fi Receiver Tuner VG > I apologize to the readers of this newsgroup. I could not find the charter FAQ before I posted and obviously these posts are not welcome here. And I also misposted here when I was meaning to post to rec.audio.marketplace which is directly adjacent to this newsgroup in my news group list. I will cease and desist and if I find the charter I will read it. There's not much I can do about my free news server which adds a commercial at the end of every post. *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 332169 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: lampbay Subject: Re: Vintage JBL L19 Lansing Floor Wall Stereo Speakers VG References: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:29:40 -0600 Message-ID: In article , lampbay wrote: > Vintage JBL L19 Lansing Floor Wall Stereo Speakers VG Item number: > 9706092668 > In article , lampbay wrote: > FA: Sony STR-V55 FM Stereo Hi-Fi Receiver Tuner VG > I apologize to the readers of this newsgroup. I could not find the charter FAQ before I posted and obviously these posts are not welcome here. And I also misposted here when I was meaning to post to rec.audio.marketplace which is directly adjacent to this newsgroup in my news group list. I will cease and desist and if I find the charter I will read it. There's not much I can do about my free news server which adds a commercial at the end of every post. *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 332170 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: lampbay Subject: Re: Ends Saturday! Vintage Sony Receiver and Cassette Recorder References: <1143830373.986743.221100@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 16:30:19 -0600 Message-ID: In article , lampbay wrote: > FA: I apologize to the readers of this newsgroup. I could not find the charter FAQ before I posted and obviously these posts are not welcome here. And I also misposted here when I was meaning to post to rec.audio.marketplace which is directly adjacent to this newsgroup in my news group list. I will cease and desist and if I find the charter I will read it. There's not much I can do about my free news server which adds a commercial at the end of every post. *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 332171 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Biasi" References: Subject: Re: Apologies to readers of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:04:45 -0500 "lampbay" wrote in message news:yospam-771780.16272831032006@free.teranews.com... >I apologize to the readers of this newsgroup. I could not find the > charter FAQ before I posted and obviously these posts are not welcome > here. And I also misposted here when I was meaning to post to > rec.audio.marketplace which is directly adjacent to this newsgroup in my > news group list. I will cease and desist and if I find the charter I > will read it. > *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** > *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from > http://www.SecureIX.com *** No big deal to me. Tom Article: 332172 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Smokey" Subject: Wanted: Lafayette "broadcaster-amplifier" 50s/60s era Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:17:31 -0600 Message-ID: <122re5ld4trom7a@corp.supernews.com> Looking to buy or trade toward a "Lafayette Wireless Broadcaster/Amplifier." These were marketed in 1960s as kits (Catalogue No. 19T0903) and factory built (Catalogue No. 19T0906). They were set in a small metal shadow box 4 x 8 x 5-inches and the front panel was sky blue in color. The device would allow its user to transmit to a nearby AM radio records and voice. I built one of these in the 1960s and wish to have another to enable me to transmit old time radio shows to the vintage receivers I have around the house. Condition is unimportant. If needing work, no problem. I will buy outright for fair price or swap; I also have a number of nice items that I would be willing to trade. My "tradin' stock" is probably worth more than the Lafayette but I am no longer in need of the items and willing to dispose of them in this manner.. I appreciate your consideration. Smokey nospamtelegrapher@hotmail.com - Important note: When replying to my e-mail please delete the words, "nospam" >from my e-mail address. Article: 332173 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: FA: Philco 16B Cathedral Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 23:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1143688249.634041.80630@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <6TQWf.115129$g47.14501@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> <1143739525.544072.299830@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In " Uncle Peter" writes: >"Eddie Brimer" wrote in message >news:1143739525.544072.299830@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> mark says i was right to begin with. which is it? >> >A true collector would get one of each model to settle the issue. >Pete >I was wrong, there is one deco 16B I apparently don't have.. At the weekend fleamarket a block from my house there's been two dealers right next to each other who have what I've always considered the Philco Penis (tm) cathedral. After following this thread, if there's a particularly rare or sought-after variant I'd be happy to check model numbers for y'all. Be advised, this being NYC it's likely they want $$$ for them. I know very little about cathedrals, but I suspect these are garden-variety, in which case it ain't worth it. Still, if anyone wants me to check for a sekrit model number or speaker size, shoot me an e-mail. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 332174 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1143688249.634041.80630@t31g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <6TQWf.115129$g47.14501@tornado.tampabay.rr.com> <1143739525.544072.299830@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FA: Philco 16B Cathedral Message-ID: <93jXf.8159$FD4.2@dukeread07> Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 18:37:41 -0500 "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:e0kdjc$4h$1@reader1.panix.com... > In " Uncle Peter" < > At the weekend fleamarket a block from my house there's been > two dealers right next to each other who have what I've always > considered the Philco Penis (tm) cathedral. After following > this thread, if there's a particularly rare or sought-after > variant I'd be happy to check model numbers for y'all. The Philco Phallus Cathederals came in several sizes, >from the small 4 tube model 80 Jr., and all the way to their biggest package--the 16B! Article: 332175 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Cracked 78 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:48:15 -0700 Message-ID: <24940-442DCDCF-528@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: <1143848875.146375.276330@z34g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I have spread cracked records & supeglued them and it does not hold Article: 332176 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Good deal ! Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:43:45 -0700 Message-ID: <24940-442DCCC1-527@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> Not mine and i dont live close or i would scoop it up its a steal FS 1939 Seeburg Gem markrob1066@comcast.net (Mark=A0Robinson) Hi All, I'm moving and have to downsize. I have a 1939 Seeburg Gem that is a project box I've been working on in my spare time. I would love to take it with me, but space does not permit it. The mech and amp are done and working. The cabinet has been partially stripped and some structural problems fixed. It is now disassembled and in many pieces, so this is a box for someone with the time, knowledge and patience to finish the job. It could also be used for parts. I would like to get $150 for it as is. Included is the AMR service manual reprint. The box is located N.E. of Philadelphia (18966 Zip) and is available for pickup only. If there is any interest, shoot me an email and we will talk. Thanks, Mark Article: 332177 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Wanted: Lafayette "broadcaster-amplifier" 50s/60s era Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:14:31 -0400 Message-ID: <122rkvqkijn7a52@corp.supernews.com> References: <122re5ld4trom7a@corp.supernews.com> Smokey wrote: > > I built one of these in the 1960s and wish to have another to enable me to > transmit old time radio shows to the vintage receivers I have around the > house. Hi Smokey, I saw your request on the other group but was hesitant to respond because the trend was "something you could use instead". I appreciate reliving the old with things you had as a kid. I had one of the Lafayettes a few years ago for the very same reason. But much to my dismay it wasn't quite as 'neat' as I remembered it and really wasn't usable for the purpose I intended (same as yours). These doggone things are terribly expensive when you can find them due to nostalgic guys like us. Expensive meaning probably $50-75. I think I traded my school lunch bag for one back in the sixties :) The Knight has this same nostalgic following. So you might consider the Lafayette only for the display shelf and something like the SS-Trans for actual home broadcasting. Good luck in your hunt. -Bill Article: 332178 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "t.hoehler" References: Subject: Re: ARC 2500 Car Phonograph Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 01:15:00 GMT "Ken Doyle" wrote in message news:sKKdnfgcLLWyFLHZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@giganews.com... > I've got a ARC 2500 car phono on the bench. I took it all apart, found > that > it must have got wet over the years and the ball bearings and washers for > the turntable were rusty. Luckily, I found that the ball bearings are the > same as the RCA 168 45 changer so I took them from a junk parts changer. > > I sent the idler wheel out to be rebuilt. > > I have 2 questions: > 1) What can be used to replace the rubber on the suspension springs? It > looks like they acted like shock absorbers for road bumps. Can't help on the Sams, but I've seen plastic foam stuffed inside the coils of springs on many pieces of audio equipment. Maybe that would work. I've never seen an ARC car phono, was this one made to play thru the AM radio? what speeds? Just curious. the only ones I remember were chrome plated units which only played 45's, played 'em upside down, as I recall. Had an AM modulator that played thru a quiet spot on the radio. Regards, Tom Article: 332179 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: My First Spring Meet in the Carolinas, 2006 Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:25:14 -0500 Message-ID: <122rlk3lahffk44@corp.supernews.com> My Great Aunt Neddie was always trying to run away from living with my grandfather and walk back to Scranton, Pennsylvania from Florida. SO I suppose it was fitting that my first day of the two day trip to the Charlotte, NC AWA Conference with a small load of stuff to sell was cut short by a surprise repair stop at Scranton Ford. The van had been in the shop in Vermont for an engine miss that appeared randomly on the way home >from the Nashua, NH meet in January. They gave it new spark plugs and fuel filter as well as some Drigas and it seemed cured- until the missing returned fiercely west of Port Jervis, NY and then the "check engine" light finally came on. I didn't make it to camping in south PA as I planned, instead the dogs and I spent the night at a slightly seedy Econolodge. Next morning after replacing one of the eight individual ignition coils, $228.00 poorer, we were on our way down I-81 again. I was fixed by 10 am but I still had 700 miles to Charlotte. I decided instead to make for a campground near Roanoke, VA about 150 miles closer for that night. I-81 is a simply GORGEOUS way to slip down south between all the cities- it runs in a long long saddle between ridges of the Appalachians. You see almost nothing ugly the whole way- well, maybe Scranton..... The engine miss appeared again in southernmost PA. By this point I wondered if *anyone* could fix a 2002 E-150 properly. No "check engine" this time though, so I decided to press on. The van made it with only very occasional missing though the rest of the trip. An ace mechanic I know now believes it's likely a sticky vane in the Mass Airflow Sensor that just needs some CRC Electronic Cleaner. The campsite was beautiful, and the next day I worked my way south in a leisurely manner to see eddie b. in SC just over the border from Charlotte. We had a great time, I really enjoyed the visit and meeting his family and pets. Oh, and we looked and talked about some radios and phonos :). My host traded me a nice Truetone D-724 for a recapped dilapidated Zenith 805 cathedral and a few other things, and I camped to by the barn with the dogs in my little RV/radio swap vehicle (it has heat and TV etc.). Eddie has some very nice pieces including a few quite unusual phonos. The weather was fine if cool up to this point, but the next morning at dawn when I arose for the swap it was raining lightly. I drove to the Sheraton in Charlotte assuming we'd be under cover for the flea. As explained on the website in detail the Sheraton and AWA supposedly had a whole plan worked for foul weather that hadn't yet been needed. Wasn't I surprised when I was told no, we'd be out in the drizzle all day. As a result most good merchandise never came out of seller's vehicles, and the stuff that did was mostly scary fixer-uppers that clearly had seen rain before. or nice stuff quickly became fixer-uppers. I didn't dare bring out my Scott console, and the RCA 262 as it is got a good deal of blush on the lacquer after sitting under partial cover half the day. I sold all the junk/fixer-uppers I brought and almost none of the nice stuff I managed to display in the end of the van under cover. But that's the breaks of late for me. At least I almost covered my expenses. I found the fee of $55- at the door for admission and one space in the rain steep. I had to sing Mozart's "Requiem" that Sunday back in Vermont so I couldn't possibly stay for Saturday too. So I headed out about noon pretty well soaked and working on a bad back. There was snow the next morning in the Virginia mountains on the new Spring leaves, but the trip home was otherwise uneventful. At the flea I picked up an Atwater Kent 558 cathedral that needs grill work and a speaker (that I have) for $175-, and for $40- a polyblond Truetone 7A that I posted pictures of earlier. But I'm not sure the drive is worth it for the meet if the weather is poor, at least I have the visit with eddie to remember fondly. Thanks again for his gracious hospitality, I finally had real barbeque and ribs %) Sincerely, John H. Article: 332180 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: mercury batteries (NOS) anyone? Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 17:56:11 -0800 Message-ID: <23nr22hb70h70pu4mvqplco03cngoauv0r@4ax.com> I boiught a card-file type cabinet a month or so ago, and found a small gold mine of stuff that had gotten stuck behind the drawers (so my cabinet, at least has paid for itself). One of the items I found was a group of 3 mercury batteries - since this cabinet came from a metrology lab, my expectation is that these wre used as the ref standards in volt meters or ohm meters. They are new, voltages seem right, but I have no clue how long they have been sitting around - then again, the self discharge rate on mercury cells is pretty low.... so, here's what I have One EverReady E133 (4.2 volts) - red white and blue case three Duracell RM12R in two boxes, 1.35 volts, black case with silver lettering make me some kind of outrageous offer for these if you are interestsed - my other get rich schemes aren't doing the trick.......... Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com *** Article: 332181 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <122pb6g12ijbs98@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: COOL- FA- Not Mine Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Apr 2006 02:40:14 GMT I have the big console one on the Right! Mine is an AK 30 and the cabinet is a Pooley. Keith "Hagstar" wrote in message news:122pb6g12ijbs98@corp.supernews.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/Old-Photo-RADIO-STORE-INTERIOR-Phonograph-FURNITURE_W0QQitemZ6221146874QQcategoryZ14279QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > John H. > Article: 332182 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: ARC 2500 Car Phonograph Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:51:17 -0700 Message-ID: <24944-442DEAA5-1@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: Sams ? there is nothing much inside these ? I have an ARC 1000 still new in box . I went & looked inside it the best i could at the suspention . This model has foam donuts about 1/2 inch thick and 1 inch round around each spring and glued to the top of the case . The foam looks and feels just like that foam pipe insulation . Tom this model needs a socket installed in the AM radio and tapped into the volume control . With todays technology an AM modulator in the antenna line would be a better way . Article: 332183 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: What is the going rate for a speaker recone? Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 20:01:20 -0700 Message-ID: <24940-442DED00-537@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: <2M-dnW4HLZyHx7DZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com> Rubber glue and silcone are not good choices if you care about the stuff Its almost impossible to find cones now . I would take one from a good PM speaker instead of trying to goop it up . Article: 332184 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" Subject: OT slightly. Looking for cb transmit crystals any and all Message-ID: Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 21:12:13 -0700 To All, Does anyone have any of the old, large can type CB Crystals. I have an Eico 760, single channel CB that I am restoring. It currently has a channel 23 crystal ( 27.255) in it. I would like to find at least a channel 19 transmit crystal (27.185) for occasional use. But I would be happy to buy any others that anyone has. Secondly, does anyone know where to buy crystals, at a reasonable price????? Thanks in advance Bob in phx. Article: 332185 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Are all series-string radios & TVs junky by definition? Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:21:11 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Fri, 31 Mar 2006 19:33:19 -0800, Phil Nelson wrote: > Series-string radios, like the "All American Five" sets, and TVs, like the > postwar 7-inch sets or Predictas, for that matter, were designed to cut > costs by omitting the expensive power transformer. In my experience, the > cost-cutting urge often shows up in other ways, as well. > > My question is: are there any truly fine radios or TVs that use the > series-string design? I mean fine in build quality as well as performance. > > I can think of one exception to the cost-cutting imperative: the Colonial > Globe, where a power transformer would have been too big and heavy for the > cramped, spherical Bakelite cabinet. Same for all tube portables, naturally > (although low cost is also desirable for a portable). > > Perhaps there are others . . . ? > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html I don't really know makes and models, but there were some radios made for use on ships where the power could have been AC or DC. Someone wrote an article about one of these in the AWA Journal a year or two (or maybe more) ago. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 332186 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: fa: 1.25 inch CAT 40 end mill holder Date: Fri, 31 Mar 2006 22:03:13 -0800 Message-ID: here's the link http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7605900402 it turns out that on my particualr mill, CAT 40 doesn't work, NMTB does, so I don't need and can't use this holder - but I'm sure lots of you can - looks to be in great shape Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com *** Free account sponsored by SecureIX.com *** *** Encrypt your Internet usage with a free VPN account from http://www.SecureIX.com ***