Article: 334258 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1147480090.222846.96640@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7vh9g.201$mU6.45@trnddc07> <%Qj9g.44520$kW2.366162@wagner.videotron.net> Subject: Re: Rubber revitalizer? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 12:17:23 GMT Well, well, I've got contraband! Yes, this can has been around for many years, so obviously it has become illegal since I've picked it up. What a feeling; I can clean up rubber while y'all can't! Maybe I can sell it on the black market for $1,000 an ounce . . . But now I'm curious -- what's the reason? Is there some environmental concern, just like oil wells, that prohibit us from doing it in the "dirty ol US" while it's perfectly fine to do it in every other country? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Syl" wrote in message news:%Qj9g.44520$kW2.366162@wagner.videotron.net... > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:7vh9g.201$mU6.45@trnddc07... >> I'll second the vote on Fedron; that's exactly what I use. Many, many >> years ago when I worked for Xerox in DC, they came out with a cleaning >> kit for typewriter platens. It was basically a pad with Fedron in it. >> Squeeze the back of the pad, and it would break a tiny reservoir inside, >> soaking the pad with Fedron. Then wipe the platen clean. It worked >> extremely well, but had one side effect -- it has a sweet smell. I >> personally like it, but every time I used it the entire office would get >> mad over the "horrible smell." >> >> I'm set. Somewhere along the line I managed to pick up a gallon can of >> Fedron. For me, that's a lifetime supply. It is (was) used by print >> shops for cleaning metal and rubber parts. Who knows if the government >> has jumped in and banned it because it works -- but who cares, I've got >> mine. > > It IS banned from the US. I doubt you can still get any legally off the > counter. > > In Canada, when the stuff is bought, the buyer must sign a form stating he > will > NOT export the product for _any_ reason and the product is tracked (from > the original container, you can of course relabel it..) Fine is extremely > "expensive". > It is on the same ban list as Freon. _Maybe_ some states still allow it > but I doubt it. > > Syl > Article: 334259 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: you guys crack me up Message-ID: References: <1147520169.261994.172340@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 08:19:23 -0400 On 13 May 2006 04:36:09 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >http://buy0.audiogon.com/cgia/fsb.pl?vint&1&ctg&st1 > >you whine like little girls when someone fixes up a Fisher 500c amp and >sells it, then you FLOOD the same damn Audiogon site with your own junk >POS radios, because you had no idea that site sold items so well > >you guys obviously have a hard time with online auctions, eh ? > >this message is for the trolls like graham and steven, not the truly >knowledgeable people that helped me out here. > >there definitely is a difference. Zenith clock radio for 49 bucks? What a joke! That's starting to sound like Ebay. __________________________________________________________ KE4ODD It’s Christianity vs. Islam. Let’s get this party started! Article: 334260 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: ot: Block Sender Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 13:11:11 GMT For those of you who do not have the block sender function on your reader, could you use Outlook Express configured to read news groups only (Accounts) and enjoy the added features? Paul P. Article: 334261 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Car radios update Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 06:25:13 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Sat, 13 May 2006 09:35:53 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >First, remember the 59 Thunderbird with the antenna trimmer problem? >Everything was fine across the entire dial, until you reach about 1500 and >reception dies. I can adjust the trimmer to increase capacitance, and the >above-1500-space comes alive. There was a 22pf, 10%, N150 cap that was out >of spec, and I had fun finding another -- I finally used an NPO, figuring >it's an AM radio and the slight difference in temperature coefficient can't >be all that noticeable. Anyway it improved it, but it was still off -- the >trimmer required about a quarter turn to tweak up things above 1500. I had a Delco that would peter out above around 1400, but not as sharply. Everything below was excellent; everything above was...eh. In that one, a little diddling of the trimmer would help slighly at 1600. Same basic remedy...a slight tweak on the slug and the top end came in perfectly. Only problem there was then I started losing the bottom, but nothing noticeable above 560. Since there's precious little traffic below there, I just left it parked that way. I chalked it up to factory misalignment of the slug's drive, and a slight error in the drive's design. Had it moved slightly less in distance over the whole band, it would've worked perfectly. In that particular one (low voltage, 1962) every cermaic disk in the thing was shot. They did seem to find creative ways to hide bypass caps in that particular one. Article: 334262 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: ot: Block Sender Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 07:08:33 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Sat, 13 May 2006 13:11:11 GMT, "Paul P" wrote: >For those of you who do not have the block sender function on your reader, >could you use Outlook Express configured to read news groups only (Accounts) >and enjoy the added features? Why waste time on Outlook? Get a real newsreader. Outlook's the #1 choice of hackers. Article: 334263 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: WTB - Riders Vol. 23 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 14:11:49 GMT Gee, I thought the volume 23 would be the easier one to find. I now have volumes 1 through 22, thought I was doing good. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "jim menning" wrote in message news:EId9g.17424$EC.6977@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:LbidnVmcWomp1_jZRVn-gQ@comcast.com... >> >> Those sell for fairly high dollar, usually over $80. I see no need for >> them, they cover 1952-3 or so, and Sams was doing it much better... >> >> Mark Oppat >> >> > > I got $125 each for the last 2 copies I sold. > > Pretty crazy considering they are both on the CDs and DVDs available for > around $25. > > I also sold a Rider's PA (Public Address) Volume 1 for $400. I had no > idea what it was worth, I'd never seen one sold before. I had it on my > table at Bolingbrook last year without a price on it. Someone asked what > I wanted for it, I said I was looking for offers on it. His first offer > was $400, and I took it right away. I still don't know if it was a good > deal or not, but the buyer was very happy, stating he'd been looking for > that one for years. I've still got one more of those here, maybe I should > test it on eBay. I've never seen a Rider's PA Volume 2. > > Which brings up another question: Are there any more Rider's Perpetual > series beyond the Radio (1-23), Television (1-27), and PA (1-?) series? > > jim menning > > > Article: 334264 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1147480090.222846.96640@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7vh9g.201$mU6.45@trnddc07> <%Qj9g.44520$kW2.366162@wagner.videotron.net> Subject: Re: Rubber revitalizer? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 10:31:41 -0400 "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:n7k9g.3177$UY6.191@trnddc08... > Well, well, I've got contraband! > > Yes, this can has been around for many years, so obviously it has become > illegal since I've picked it up. > > What a feeling; I can clean up rubber while y'all can't! Maybe I can sell > it on the black market for $1,000 an ounce . . . > > But now I'm curious -- what's the reason? Is there some environmental > concern, just like oil wells, that prohibit us from doing it in the "dirty > ol US" while it's perfectly fine to do it in every other country? It's on a par with BPC oils as far as being a health hazard. Worse actually as Fedron is extremely volatile. Let your can opened for an hour and it will evaporate entirely. We can still get it in Canada, I think. Maybe I should call my buddy who's maintaining photocopiers and ask if he still can get it legally... Syl Article: 334265 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4465EFF9.712A9288@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Ronette Cartridge pin connections References: <1146368145.598451.67720@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 14:42:11 GMT Gerry wrote: > > It is Seabreeze Model S-310, made in Toronto, Canada. Again, virtually > identical to VM Model 207. Would anyone have a schematic for either > one? If I could see the one for VM 207, I could compare it with what's > pasted inside the Seabreeze... The Seabreeze isn't listed in Sams, but the VM is in 526-12. I don't have that one at this time, but someone on the group may, or you may be able to get it through your public library on an inter-library loan. Sams Photofacts 526-12 is what you would ask them to get for you. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334266 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4465F4B3.A9FF339@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Index for Sams CM & RC manuals now availible. Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 15:02:21 GMT I scanned the index pages from the Sams CM and RC manuals. They cover early turntables, phonographs and some wire recorders. I corrected the listing errors and created a clean text file. It is available on my website as a PDF file. This information is not available in Sams electronic or online indexes. The link to the website is in the header, and the file is under "Manuals - Sams Publications" or you can use this direct link: http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/CM-RC-index.pdf Right click and save it if you want to keep a copy handy. It is about 300 kB and 18 pages if you print it out. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334267 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 15:17:57 GMT Since this set is now very non original it would be good of you to put a note inside it telling about the changes that you made. You will not own this set forever, 2 or 3 future owners down the road and it may be hard to know what an original Radio LL looked like. This is a fairly rare set, it's a shame to see it modified just to make it play. In my opinion, if you could not stand to have a radio that didn't work, and weren't interested enough to find the original tubes and correct parts to fix it without butchering it up, it would have been better to pass it on to someone who could and would treat it as a historical artifact and not just a radio to listen to. You might say you wanted to se what a Radio LL sounded like. Well now you'll never know, with all these mods it's not a Radio LL anymore. But like I said, that's just my opinion. Ron - exray - wrote in message news:1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com... > I recently acquired this old superhet and managed to bring it to life. > Here's some details should anyone be interested. I found little or no > other information on the net regarding this radio so hopefully this will > be helpful to someone. > > http://www.sparkbench.com/ll/ll.html > > -Bill Article: 334268 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4465F85A.C7BECA9B@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: transistors needed to repair a Harman Kardon Citation Twelve References: <1147532491.209357.247530@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 15:17:56 GMT amradio wrote: > > Hi, > I need to buy all transistors for one complete way of my "Harman Kardon > Citation Twelve Amp" that's to say : > > HK 43024217 > HK 43024306 or RCA 40408 one unit > HK 43024219 or RCA 40595 one unit > HK 43023221 or 2N5232 one unit > HK 43024218 or RCA 40594 one unit > HK 43024216 or RCA 40636 two units > > Harman Kardon has no longer ... > Have you any idea about a place to find this ? > > Thank you very much. > Best Regards > > Marc Those RCA numbers are house numbers RCA used before they were assigned JEDEC (2N) numbers, back in the '60s. I'll see if I can find my old RCA databooks to see if they list the JEDEC numbers. I don't see a Citation 12 in the Sams listings, so I can't help with a schematic and parts list. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334269 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: R.I.P. R.A.R.+P. Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 09:27:24 -0600 Message-ID: <22752-4465FADC-285@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> References: <1147528460.539515.280120@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Radiogary You asked ``where else would you go `` ... There are a number of old radio topic forums on the net . some with far more than this one . You are missing out if you only look here . Article: 334270 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Hickok 600 A Tester Chart Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 11:42:58 -0400 I need a roll chart fot this tube tester, anyone selling one? Ken Article: 334271 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 08:58:38 -0700 Message-ID: <18727-4466022E-171@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> References: >...you wanted to see what a Radio LL >sounded like. Well now you'll never >know, with all these mods it's not a >Radio LL anymore. > >But like I said, that's just my opinion. > >Ron It all lies in one's frame of referance. If a non-working but intact artifact is what you prefer, that's fine. But if applying one's technical acumen to the challenge of making the old set work and actually work well, that's fine too. I kinda dig the latter. Subject: Re: Rubber revitalizer? References: <1147480090.222846.96640@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44652C65.ADA7FA7A@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:04:09 GMT > pgonshor@aol.com wrote: >> Is there any chemical, or chemicals, that revitalize rubber rollers >> such as those used in phono's from the 50's? I know there are a bunch >> of products out there, but $10 for two ounces of stuff is a bit much >> unless it is the only way to get it. Thanks for any help. Regards, >> Dave I have been using Rawn "Re-Grip" for years and while not dirt cheap, it works very well (top of page): http://www.aedwis.com/rawn.html Here is the maker's site (scroll about 1/3 of the way down): http://www.rawnamerica.com/products.php TEAC used to make something similar. From the smell, the main ingredient appeared to be similar to diesel fuel and/or possibly Kerosene. Article: 334273 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Skippy spotted in Santa Cruz Message-ID: <581c629miq5up8k0q8nvht46kkgro6suih@4ax.com> References: <1147485502.173691.176740@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1147503654.030635.276010@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1147507824.169936.44100@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4Yg9g.2427$uM4.430@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:12:38 GMT On Sat, 13 May 2006 08:40:32 GMT, Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > >Steven wrote: >[ Long rambling drivel deleted. }] > >Getting pretty defensive there kid. That's good, that means >deep down inside you know you're wrong. > >Jeff Please do not feed the animals. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 334274 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: WTB - Riders Vol. 23 Message-ID: References: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:23:17 GMT On Sat, 13 May 2006 04:59:16 GMT, "jim menning" wrote: >I also sold a Rider's PA (Public Address) Volume 1 for $400. I had no idea what it >was worth, I'd never seen one sold before. I had it on my table at Bolingbrook last >year without a price on it. Someone asked what I wanted for it, I said I was looking >for offers on it. His first offer was $400, and I took it right away. I still don't >know if it was a good deal or not, but the buyer was very happy, stating he'd been >looking for that one for years. I've still got one more of those here, maybe I >should test it on eBay. I have 2 of those. The first on I paid $90 for, about 5 years ago. The second one I got FREE at the Sarasota radio swap meet a few weeks ago. Let's not put both of ours on eBay at the same time. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 334275 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <18727-4466022E-171@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:34:24 GMT Bill Sheppard wrote in message news:18727- > It all lies in one's frame of referance. If a non-working but intact > artifact is what you prefer, that's fine. > But if applying one's technical acumen to the challenge > of making the old set work and actually work well, that's fine too. I > kinda dig the latter. Bill(oc) There's lots and lots of non working common junk radios out there for someone to apply their technical acumen to without destroying a historical artifact. Ron Article: 334276 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Rubber revitalizer? Message-ID: <6f2c62tsphns6kml9kprmpnlt4057b5fug@4ax.com> References: <1147480090.222846.96640@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7vh9g.201$mU6.45@trnddc07> <%Qj9g.44520$kW2.366162@wagner.videotron.net> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:36:55 GMT On Sat, 13 May 2006 07:57:56 -0400, "Syl" wrote: > >It IS banned from the US. I doubt you can still get any legally off the >counter. > >In Canada, when the stuff is bought, the buyer must sign a form stating he >will >NOT export the product for _any_ reason and the product is tracked (from >the original container, you can of course relabel it..) Fine is extremely >"expensive". >It is on the same ban list as Freon. _Maybe_ some states still allow it but >I doubt it. > >Syl > http://www.teeveesupply.com/product_pages/chemicals/fedron.htm http://www.precisionroller.com/catalog_display.php?step=3&directlink=1&cid=18833&MfrID=289 Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 334277 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1147528460.539515.280120@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <22752-4465FADC-285@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> <1147539099.289341.242790@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: R.I.P. R.A.R.+P. Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 12:32:16 -0500 Message-ID: <44660a9e$0$29331$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1147539099.289341.242790@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Is that so? Is Menning on any of them? What difference does it make? If you can't do business in an ethical manner you're going to be found out and called out on it no matter where you go. You ought to just be thankful that you're not Charlie Nudo and have DesertBob after you. *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** Article: 334278 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Phipps" Subject: Re: R.I.P. R.A.R.+P. Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 12:45:13 -0500 Message-ID: <126c6p6oa2bko5b@corp.supernews.com> References: <1147354154.095166.313110@q12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> It's amazing how a few trolls and off topic posts get people thinking the world is coming to an end... First off, trolls come and go. Don't feed them! They always get bored and eventually go away. This group has had a few trolls since its inception... nothing new here. Compared to the 60,000 other usenet groups, this group has always been one of the most on topic and informative groups around. It's far >from dying as you'll see if you continue hanging around. I hope you do. Everyone just needs to "chill" out, take a deep breath, and if all of this is keeping you up at night... learn to use content filters... they are our friends. The group will remain just as strong as it always has. "Terry S" wrote in message news:1147354154.095166.313110@q12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > But R.A.R.+P. grew ill these last few week. R.A.R.+P. became infected > by a few trolls from other groups, spreading their ill will, personal > battles, hatred, and vengeful platitudes throughout this group. Article: 334279 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 13:57:51 -0400 Message-ID: <126c7h68fj39k7f@corp.supernews.com> References: <1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com> Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > Since this set is now very non original it would be good of > you to put a note inside it telling about the changes that you made. > You will not own this set forever, 2 or 3 future owners down the > road and it may be hard to know what an original Radio LL > looked like. > This is a fairly rare set, it's a shame to see it modified just > to make it play. In my opinion, if you could not stand to have a radio > that didn't work, and weren't interested enough to find the > original tubes and correct parts to fix it without butchering it up, Huh? Ron, I think anybody could clearly see that the tubes are fake and that hardly justifies "putting a note inside". You find out what the correct tubes are (nobody seems to know) and you throw away the fakes. End of story. The radio has not been modified in any way whatsoever beyond the fake tubes and restuffing the two bad caps. I did save the original 'dud' tubes found in it for 'display'. We apparently have differing opinions of what is "butchered up". -Bill Article: 334280 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44662169.A7512A39@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: WTD: Unobtainium! References: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 18:13:07 GMT robert casey wrote: > > Isn't Unobtainium a controlled substance? Or against UN regulations to > enrich to weapons grade? > > :-) No, you're thinking of bullshitium, used to power usenet trolls. :( -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334281 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" References: <1147354154.095166.313110@q12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <126c6p6oa2bko5b@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: R.I.P. R.A.R.+P. Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 14:26:57 -0400 Message-ID: <446624d6$0$3680$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "Steve Phipps" wrote in message news:126c6p6oa2bko5b@corp.supernews.com... > It's amazing how a few trolls and off topic posts get people thinking the > world is coming to an end... > > First off, trolls come and go. Don't feed them! They always get bored and > eventually go away. This group has had a few trolls since its inception... > nothing new here. Compared to the 60,000 other usenet groups, this group > has always been one of the most on topic and informative groups around. > It's far from dying as you'll see if you continue hanging around. I hope > you do. > > Everyone just needs to "chill" out, take a deep breath, and if all of this > is keeping you up at night... learn to use content filters... they are our > friends. The group will remain just as strong as it always has. > > "Terry S" wrote in message > news:1147354154.095166.313110@q12g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >> But R.A.R.+P. grew ill these last few week. R.A.R.+P. became infected >> by a few trolls from other groups, spreading their ill will, personal >> battles, hatred, and vengeful platitudes throughout this group. > > Hell, if you think "THIS" news group is bad, check out the CB radio or some of the Ham related groups - they never quit. There is like 99.9% fighting and .1% on topic issues. THAT IS SICKENING. And they then cross post it to yet other radio related groups and ruin them too. Why not just meet in a back alley, kick the shit out of one another and get it over with. Why infest the computer spectrum? You guys have it mild - WAY mild compared to others........... As the man said, chill out........ it "will" pass........... AND - don't feed the trolls. My only downfall here was a disagreement with one of it's members - which as I look back on - was silly.......... But, after a couple exchanges - I left to chill out. It did no one any good to continue on in that silly tirade. BUT - it was just that - a disagreement - no trolling or otherwise. I will say though - some are very harsh when it comes to opposing opinion.They can't accept any other than their own - that is not good. You have to be willing to respect others as they are expected to respect yours. A bit of give and take. We all have our own likes and dislikes and our quirks. Now, let's get back to Radio - shall we? Though I don't contribute a whole lot, I have - some. I do enjoy though - reading the wisdom of others when posted. Lets not let the trolls - win.............. clf Article: 334282 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: tbavis@_remove_this_rochester.rr.com (Tom Bavis) Subject: Re: Hoffman TV:need schematic Message-ID: <4466272d.17475312@news-server> References: <4460e4fd$0$65487$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> <44611318.502A87FB@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 18:39:51 GMT On Tue, 09 May 2006 22:11:22 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >Steve wrote: >> >> Gotta stop going to junkfests. >> >> Picked up an unmolested Hoffman 17QXP pseudo >> countertop TV. As far as I can tell it was built in 1952. >> The chassis is #212, and there is a model number on >> the back (different from 17QXP) that I cannot read. >> From my tube layout book, it appears this chassis >> was used in a number of sets. Mine uses a 17HP4 >> rectangular CRT. >> >> If anyone out here has, and is willing to make a copy >> of the schematic and any other info, I'd like to >> hear from you. Of course I'll be happy to pay for >> copying and shipping. TIA. >> >> Steve > > > Sams Photofacts lists it in 194-4, which is not in my collection at >this time. > If I have it, you can have it for postage. Article: 334283 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stan" Subject: Schematic for newer TV. Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 15:55:30 -0230 Apology for off topic. Direction to a source would be most appreciated. A schematic for a 1999 JVC TV Model # AV27020 Serial 064307; using Chassis A67. Set works Ok but has lack of linearity and some 'fold-over' at top few inches of screen. Suspect something in the vertical circuit. But my TV trouble shooting days are almost 50 years out of date so I need a diagram! TIA Terry Article: 334284 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "tom418" References: <1147532491.209357.247530@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: transistors needed to repair a Harman Kardon Citation Twelve Message-ID: Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 14:53:28 -0400 Great unit, the Citation Twelve. IIRC, it made its debut in the late sixties? I used to work for Pickering, down the street from H.K in Plainview, Long Island. Those were the days... "amradio" wrote in message news:1147532491.209357.247530@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Hi, > I need to buy all transistors for one complete way of my "Harman Kardon > Citation Twelve Amp" that's to say : > > HK 43024217 > HK 43024306 or RCA 40408 one unit > HK 43024219 or RCA 40595 one unit > HK 43023221 or 2N5232 one unit > HK 43024218 or RCA 40594 one unit > HK 43024216 or RCA 40636 two units > > Harman Kardon has no longer ... > Have you any idea about a place to find this ? > > Thank you very much. > Best Regards > > Marc > Article: 334285 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stan" References: Subject: Re: WTD: Unobtainium! Message-ID: <8Lp9g.10259$aq5.459909@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 16:09:12 -0230 "robert casey" wrote in message news:uIo9g.2032$y4.669@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Isn't Unobtainium a controlled substance? Or against UN regulations to > enrich to weapons grade? > > :-) . Umm: Isn't that irrata ...., er, irritational, ah, iranational................. nah that's not it! Irrational ...........! Yes that's it! Article: 334286 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" Subject: WTD--Scans of Sears and Montgomery Ward catalog pages--batteries Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 15:09:36 -0400 Message-ID: <44662ee7$0$1014$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Anyone have a 1958-1961 Sears or Montgomery Wards Catalog? I'd like to have scans of the Silvertone and Airline battery lists. Bill From adouglasatgis.net Sun May 14 10:19:55 EDT 2006 Article: 334287 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Rubber revitalizer? Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 15:33:41 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Lines: 15 Message-ID: References: <1147480090.222846.96640@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7vh9g.201$mU6.45@trnddc07> <%Qj9g.44520$kW2.366162@wagner.videotron.net> <6f2c62tsphns6kml9kprmpnlt4057b5fug@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-309.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:334287 Hi, Out of curiosity I did a quick search for the MSDS for Fedron, and came up with: xylene 40-50% ethyl acetate 5-10% denatured ethanol 40-50% MIBK (methyl isobutyl ketone) 1-5% The ethyl acetate would account for the fruity smell, and the odor of xylene tends to linger also. MIBK is fairly nasty stuff. Alan -- NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Article: 334288 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bob Weiss Subject: Re: Schematic for newer TV. References: <44663B4B.8AB3D492@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <9Qs9g.1802$_B5.1042@trnddc01> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 22:11:17 GMT Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Stan wrote: > >>Apology for off topic. Direction to a source would be most appreciated. >> >>A schematic for a 1999 JVC TV Model # AV27020 Serial 064307; using Chassis >>A67. >> >>Set works Ok but has lack of linearity and some 'fold-over' at top few >>inches of screen. >> >>Suspect something in the vertical circuit. But my TV trouble shooting days >>are almost 50 years out of date so I need a diagram! >> >>TIA Terry > > > > Try news:sci.electronics.repair for newer electronics help. A lot of > TV techs there who can and will help. > > And if you still want/need a schematic, there is a pay-per-download site at: http://www.tvdiagrams.com/ , which I have used a few times. Cheaper, faster, and more convenient than ordering a Sams photofact set... Bob Weiss N2IXK Article: 334289 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com> <126c7h68fj39k7f@corp.supernews.com> <1147550289.364898.286800@d71g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Message-ID: <_0t9g.507$vw1.285@southeast.rr.com> Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 22:24:58 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote in message news:1147550289.364898.286800@d71g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > it's amazing how a man that can take NO criticizm when it is thrown his > way, sure can dish it out in heaping helpings. i think you did a great > job bill. at least you made an effort. > What, I'm not entitled to my opinion? Ron Article: 334290 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Schematic for newer TV. Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:42:20 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Stan" wrote in message news:eyp9g.10254$aq5.457849@news20.bellglobal.com... > Apology for off topic. Direction to a source would be most appreciated. > > A schematic for a 1999 JVC TV Model # AV27020 Serial 064307; using Chassis > A67. > > Set works Ok but has lack of linearity and some 'fold-over' at top few > inches of screen. > > Suspect something in the vertical circuit. But my TV trouble shooting days > are almost 50 years out of date so I need a diagram! > > TIA Terry > As with old radios, I've found it best to just shotgun the electrolytics around the V. out transistors, V. Height and Linearity controls, and the signal processor chip. Article: 334291 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <4465F4B3.A9FF339@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Index for Sams CM & RC manuals now availible. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 00:47:03 GMT "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:4465F4B3.A9FF339@earthlink.net... > > I scanned the index pages from the Sams CM and RC manuals. Thanks! jim menning Article: 334292 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 18:50:31 -0600 Message-ID: <364-44667ED7-322@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: That is really neet Bill . The face of that is different . I enjoyed the wright up . Why the hell is everyone freeking out about the original parts .. LOL Article: 334293 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 18:01:51 -0700 Message-ID: <8515-4466817F-19@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> References: Yep, the parts baggie also enclosing a well-written summary of any substitutions / mods would be the way to go. The complex repair necessary to bring this set back to life gave a true appreciation of the genius of the original builder.. an insight you'd never get by looking at a non-working artifact. oc Article: 334294 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" Subject: Back from Kutztown! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 02:08:23 GMT Im Back! My goal of coming home with LESS consoles by spending a little more and getting better sets was indeed realized, but the quantity of project sets bieng much less this time definately helped. Perhaps the threat of biblical rains kept some from dragging everything out but the actual weather couldnt have been any better at least until the auction started. Once again alot of the fun was meeting all the radio folk, having great talks with John Hagman and Peter Wieck and others, and learning from Peter how to properly restore a corroded dial bezel! I came home with a nice black dial Zenith that will be sure to satisfy the Zombies ( I still like Zeniths though) a small Fada console whose speaker has a HANDLE on it, and a nice early Zenith that Peter Wieck went through electronically... and there are only a select few folks out there that I would trust an electronic resto from and he is one! I hope to make the cabinet match the already completed elements of the restoration this winter! I got a couple other things as well including a nice clean and solid Kolster 6J, the AC version of the 6D which came with all the original paper work and notes, Its nice to own a few sets that havent had anything living in them at one time! The stuff I brought to sell all went very nicely too... mainly plastics that Ill never get to (the 1 in 7 million odds of living past 100 just werent worth keeping the plastic's). I have a table reserved for the fall... still alot of doohickies in the basement that are too good the throw out but not useful to me. So expect a nice selection of really cheap oddball stuff FS in the fall. Hope everyone got home safe and sound! Keith Article: 334295 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Kutztown 2006- First Look- On Binaries NOW Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 22:23:03 -0400 Message-ID: <126d54fpa7dt64@corp.supernews.com> They are hot off the presses, I'll have full report soon after I get some sleep. I sold a bunch, bought some smaller things, a wonderful meet all in all as usual. John H. Article: 334296 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Capacitor Checker? Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 22:59:37 -0400 Message-ID: <126d7911qnfl21d@corp.supernews.com> References: Yes, use the best checker of all- the calendar. Are the 'lytics in question older than 1970 ? Then they are bad. For newer ones an ESR meter may be useful. John H. Article: 334297 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" Subject: Antique Radio Swap Meet, NEXT SATURDAY, May 20th. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 03:42:44 GMT The Carolinas Chapter of the Antique Wireless Association will host our "Spring Antique Radio Swap Meet" next Saturday May, 20th 2006, at the North Carolina Transportation Museum "Spencer Shops" located in Spencer, North Carolina. Spencer is located just off I-85 a few miles north of Salisbury, NC. You can find detailed driving directions on the CC-AWA web page at http://www.cc-awa.org As always with our Saturday events, admission is FREE, vendor setup is only $5. If you've never attended one of our Saturday morning events before please understand that these events start early and are all over before 12noon. The park officially opens the gates at 8AM, but folks are usually there by around 7AM. If you sleep late and show up at 10 or 11 all you'll get to see is the early birds packing up and heading home. We look forward to seeing everyone there. 73, Ron kc4yoy Radio Collection Web Page, http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com Article: 334298 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Capacitor Checker? Date: Sat, 13 May 2006 21:25:02 -0700 Message-ID: <77cd629fgi3a6cdh7g4t4cta9q0e36tsg4@4ax.com> References: <1147572567.061476.289250@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 13 May 2006 19:09:27 -0700, "Terry S" wrote: >I have a few. I prefer my Sprague Tel-Ohm-Mike TO-6. Best 'lytic tester ever made. EICO and Heath had some fair ones, and are far cheaper, but with less precise results. Article: 334299 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 01:32:46 -0400 Message-ID: <126dg84g6qj6594@corp.supernews.com> References: <8515-4466817F-19@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> Bill Sheppard wrote: > Yep, the parts baggie also enclosing a well-written summary of any > substitutions / mods would be the way to go. > The complex repair necessary to bring this set back to life gave a true > appreciation of the genius of the original builder.. an insight you'd > never get by looking at a non-working artifact. > > oc > I'm going to go back and re-read again what I wrote but aside from the obviously fake homemade tubes there are NO substitutions or mods or replacement parts -as in NONE or ZERO - to put in a baggie...other than the internal guts of the two wax caps I restuffed...but I threw them out after saving as much of the original wax as I could. Two of 3 of the disc caps on the xfmrs came back to life after some 'flexing' and the third one simply has an additional ceramic disc under the screw, clearly visible and removable in seconds. This would be the only "added" part and if anyone has one of those 540pf round discs (see top of xfmr on the right) I'd gladly purchase it and resolve that situation. I'm not going to rag on any one else's efforts or their preference to be curator of a Radio Morgue full of inoperative, lifeless boxes. There's a lot to be learned about the old technology and its development by actually operating the gear of old days. No, this won't be my daily driver although it certainly could be since I wouldn't be wasting hard-to-find tubes that cost $40 a whack, and no I wouldn't whack out the original sockets and replace them with modern octals or something like that. I'm opposed to butchering up rare radios as much as anybody. I don't consider making repairs to IF coil broken wires as butchering especially when a few minor non-intrusive repairs can make the difference between a dead 'artifact' or a live one. Had major repairs or substitutions been required this radio would have remained dead. If a few solder joints being disturbed counts as ruining the radio then I'm guilty as charged because several of them had popped loose. -Bill Article: 334300 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Powers" References: <1147480090.222846.96640@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7vh9g.201$mU6.45@trnddc07> <%Qj9g.44520$kW2.366162@wagner.videotron.net> <6f2c62tsphns6kml9kprmpnlt4057b5fug@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Rubber revitalizer? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 05:59:06 GMT I've used a number of things over the years. I've seen the TEAC stuff mentioned and that was pretty good stuff. I have a small (empty) bottle of stuff from PRB-Line (Projector-Recorder Belt, Whitewater, WI 53190 414-473-2151) called "Rubber Cleaner Revitalizer P/N RCR21. I bought it when the TEAC stuff ran out... worked just as well. It says it contains Methyl Propasol Acetate (CAS# 108-65-6). The latest stuff I have is from MG Chemicals and is called Rubber Renue http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/408a.html. It works well also and it says it contains Dimethyl Benzine (CAS# 1330-20-7) and Methyl Salicylate (CAS# 119-36-8). I was talking to a VCR repairman once who told me he always used automotive brake fluid... I never had the guts to try it myself since I know brake fluid eats plastic and paint. JP "Alan Douglas" wrote in message news:ltcc62h5phlv9hbqpmj0p99mqnndbggma8@4ax.com... > Hi, > Out of curiosity I did a quick search for the MSDS for Fedron, and > came up with: > > xylene 40-50% > ethyl acetate 5-10% > denatured ethanol 40-50% > MIBK (methyl isobutyl ketone) 1-5% > > The ethyl acetate would account for the fruity smell, and the odor > of xylene tends to linger also. > > MIBK is fairly nasty stuff. > > Alan > -- > NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth Article: 334301 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bartley Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby References: <8515-4466817F-19@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> <126dg84g6qj6594@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <8nE9g.22$aa4.3213@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 07:19:36 -0400 - exray - wrote: If a few solder joints > being disturbed counts as ruining the radio then I'm guilty as charged > because several of them had popped loose. > > -Bill You can't please everyone Bill, but you already know that. Your restore/repro information page was a pleasant read. Impressive work - as always. cheers -- regards from :: John Bartley 43 Norway Spruce Street Stittsville, Ontario Canada, K2S1P5 ( If you slow down it takes longer - does that apply to life also?) Article: 334302 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Hallicrafters HX-25: the fun really begins Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 21:47:13 +0900 Message-ID: Today I got started with recapping my SX-25 in earnest. I had replaced a few of the easier to reach ones last night, but tonight I dismantled the cabinet so that I could get to more of them, and finished the main chassis, including electrolytics. The new caps are so much smaller than the old wax caps, they look rather tiny and alone. Two of the electrolytics (10uF/25V) were replaced with modern 10uF/50V types that were about 1/20 the size of the originals. I added a tie strip near the old main filter cap (which I left in for cosmetic purposes) that I could mount the new filters to. This turned out to be a fairly neat looking modification. I used to just solder the new ones in at convenient points in the radios, but in this case I wanted a better job than I usually do. I'm thinking about ohming the old dogbone resistors and replacing them as needed, especially in the RF area. I still need to recap that part of the chassis, but put it off for last, because it was going to be much more difficult to do than the rest. Right now, the radio is almost completely deaf on band 4 (18-42MHz), and semi-deaf on band 3 (5-19MHz). It is pretty hot on the bottom end of the band, and up through about 10MHz, and drops off rapidly from there. Bands 1 and 2 are doing fairly well. Band 1 does not use the additional RF amplifier stage, so is not as hot as band 2. I was a bit disappointed when I looked carefully at the schematic and saw that the extra RF amp wasn't even in the circuit on the BCB. The BFO lacked any sort of stability before the recap, now it seems to hold fairly steady, especially after warmup. After doing an IF alignment (in narrow mode), I'm quite happy with the way the bandwidths are working. The wide bandwidth sounds very nice to my ear on strong stations where the band conditions allow, while the narrow does a fine job of separating close stations in the SW band. One question I have for someone that is more familiar than I with using bandspread: Where do I want to position the bandspread while doing the tracking alignment on the main dial? I'll be glad when I can install a proper output transformer in the radio. As of now, I'm using a huge transformer that I think was made for at the very least 6L6 outputs, possibly even something larger, I think about 30-40 watts total output, and it doesn't match particularly well to the 6F6 tubes in the radio... although it does do a better job of matching to one of my speakers than the 500 ohm output on the existing transformer in the radio. Anyway, that's my story for now, and I'm sticking to it. :) Anyone with hints and tips regarding this radio feel free to e-mail me. Article: 334303 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 6 volt vibrator From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1147570225.299192.129740@d71g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 13:12:16 GMT In article <1147570225.299192.129740@d71g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, bhagen@msn.com says... > > >The outputs of all transformers are AC. > >Bruce > yes... including the vibrator transformer... what exactly radio are you trying to bypass this vibrator supply on?.. are we talking temporary supply to find out if the radio works?.. or are we talking about permanently replacing the 6 volt supply with a regular AC one?.. If its a replacement permanently of a 6 volt supply ... usually you need to rewire slightly the tube filament wiring as it is now through the On/Off switch ... you also need a small power transformer... not some audio one... but a small power transformer that has 6.3 volts and high voltage .. then a rectifier system of some sorts... diodes or tube... if tube and you want a 5y3 or something in the radio... then your transformer has to also have a 5 volt winding on it.. John Article: 334304 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Hallicrafters HX-25: the fun really begins References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:17:20 -0400 Better watch those dog bones, they can continue to go up in resistance as you use the set. Ken Brenda Ann wrote: > Today I got started with recapping my SX-25 in earnest. I had replaced a few > of the easier to reach ones last night, but tonight I dismantled the cabinet > so that I could get to more of them, and finished the main chassis, > including electrolytics. > > The new caps are so much smaller than the old wax caps, they look rather > tiny and alone. Two of the electrolytics (10uF/25V) were replaced with > modern 10uF/50V types that were about 1/20 the size of the originals. > > I added a tie strip near the old main filter cap (which I left in for > cosmetic purposes) that I could mount the new filters to. This turned out to > be a fairly neat looking modification. I used to just solder the new ones in > at convenient points in the radios, but in this case I wanted a better job > than I usually do. > > I'm thinking about ohming the old dogbone resistors and replacing them as > needed, especially in the RF area. I still need to recap that part of the > chassis, but put it off for last, because it was going to be much more > difficult to do than the rest. Right now, the radio is almost completely > deaf on band 4 (18-42MHz), and semi-deaf on band 3 (5-19MHz). It is pretty > hot on the bottom end of the band, and up through about 10MHz, and drops off > rapidly from there. Bands 1 and 2 are doing fairly well. Band 1 does not use > the additional RF amplifier stage, so is not as hot as band 2. I was a bit > disappointed when I looked carefully at the schematic and saw that the extra > RF amp wasn't even in the circuit on the BCB. > > The BFO lacked any sort of stability before the recap, now it seems to hold > fairly steady, especially after warmup. After doing an IF alignment (in > narrow mode), I'm quite happy with the way the bandwidths are working. The > wide bandwidth sounds very nice to my ear on strong stations where the band > conditions allow, while the narrow does a fine job of separating close > stations in the SW band. > > One question I have for someone that is more familiar than I with using > bandspread: Where do I want to position the bandspread while doing the > tracking alignment on the main dial? > > I'll be glad when I can install a proper output transformer in the radio. As > of now, I'm using a huge transformer that I think was made for at the very > least 6L6 outputs, possibly even something larger, I think about 30-40 watts > total output, and it doesn't match particularly well to the 6F6 tubes in the > radio... although it does do a better job of matching to one of my speakers > than the 500 ohm output on the existing transformer in the radio. > > Anyway, that's my story for now, and I'm sticking to it. :) Anyone with > hints and tips regarding this radio feel free to e-mail me. > > Article: 334305 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Hallicrafters HX-25: the fun really begins Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:18:20 -0400 Message-ID: <126ebh1ckfq3cb8@corp.supernews.com> References: William Sommerwerck wrote: >>The new caps are so much smaller than the old wax caps, >>they look rather tiny and alone. > > > So, why not mount two in parallel? > > Restuff the originals! -Bill Article: 334306 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Capacitor Checker? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 13:28:05 GMT In article , babushka{AT}dom{DOT}com says... > > >Is there a capacitor checker that can test electrolytics if they are bad or >not? None of my VOMs or other test equipment has this feature. > >Thanks. > > well now that you have gotten good and bad information in response to your question... someone should probably sum it up with a little clarification for you before you jump right out there and buy a meter. .. OLD LITICS ARE JUNK as stated by John H.... you don't need to bother checking them.. if they are OK today... tomorrow or the next day they won't be any good... so how many times do you want to open up this same old radio to fix it. ... you asked about checking litics ... the new digital.. cap meters like the Tenma that I have here... they are about 70 bucks.. the will tell you what the capacitance of the capacitor in question is... they will NOT tell you if the thing is going to leak when you apply voltage to it... the Spraque TO and the Eico and Heathkit old units.. they WILL tell you if the capacitor is leaking ... again .. if the litic is an old one.. see above part... junk it and get a new one for less than a buck you won't have to wonder what day it is going to puke on you.. the Sprague, Eico,Heath units.. usually go begging for buyers at the hamfests for 5 to 20 bucks ... I have a Heathkit... works fine for what I use it for... as for checking capacitors "In Curcuit" ... some you can and some you can't depending on what else is in the curcuit... so some people can give you false information ... John k9uwa Article: 334307 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Car radios update From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 13:34:22 GMT In article , caradio@verizon.net says... > > > and I can put my >finger near or on the 6A8 grid cap and pull in stations like crazy >Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical two posibilities on the above problem.. one is that the tweakers need tweaked... and the other is that it might have an open antenna coil in the front end of the radio.. John k9uwa Article: 334308 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Kutztown Spring 2006 Also on Forum Now Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 10:41:19 -0400 Message-ID: <126egcoil37j544@corp.supernews.com> http://antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=428345#428345 John H. Article: 334309 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44674BD0.B5731EA2@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Glass Audio magazine References: <1147606473.609250.56800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 15:26:37 GMT CAINE wrote: > > Has anyone subscribed to or read Glass Audio before ? I picked up 4 > issues for a quarter each at a flea market sale yesterday, this > magazine is amazing. Every issue is full of info on push pull vs. > single ended, pentode vs. triode, followers, home built amps, etc. > Also discusses various tube designs, and the charactersistics of each > tube by part number. Take this to news:rec.audio.tubes where they give a damn. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334310 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Zenith part needed Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 09:54:40 -0600 Message-ID: <10782-446752C0-526@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Probably one of the more obscure Zenith parts requests. I need a propeller for a Zenith Wincharger. Lacking the propeller, can anyone furnish the dimensions of one? I don't need details as to the shape of the airfoil as I won't be using it to efficiently generate electricity but I would like it to spin and look authentic. DON AC7PD Article: 334311 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Uncle Pete" References: Subject: Re: Capacitor Checker? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 12:30:33 -0400 "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:FfG9g.729454$084.42536@attbi_s22... > In > as for checking capacitors "In Curcuit" ... some you can and some you > can't depending on what else is in the curcuit... so some people can > give you false information ... > > John k9uwa > The ESR meters are indespensible for in circuit testing, but where they really shine in is in solid state environments, where the boards are packed with electrolytics and removing them for testing would be too time intensive... A good ESR meter is a godsend on modern consumer equipment. If you're doing newer AV type repairs, you need one! I've fixed several video monitors in minutes using one to find the open electrolytics. Pete Article: 334312 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 16:37:56 GMT > I think it was called "jewelling" , although I wouldn't swear > to that at the moment. Beautiful though. It's called "Engine Turned". The '27 Bugitta LaMans racer had it's front cowl done that way, and so did the Spirit of St. Louis. It's really easy to by the way if you have a drill press handy. Ron Article: 334313 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 12:50:18 -0400 Message-ID: <126enugemuj8c54@corp.supernews.com> References: <1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com> Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: >>I think it was called "jewelling" , although I wouldn't swear >>to that at the moment. Beautiful though. > > > It's called "Engine Turned". > > The '27 Bugitta LaMans racer had it's front cowl > done that way, and so did the Spirit of St. Louis. > > It's really easy to by the way if you have a drill press handy. > > Ron This was still popular with homebrew race car folks for dashboards in the 60s-70s. I wouldn't be surprised if it still were. -Bill Article: 334314 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Todd Subject: Re: Hallicrafters HX-25: the fun really begins Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 10:18:55 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Sun, 14 May 2006 21:47:13 +0900, Brenda Ann wrote: > T > I'll be glad when I can install a proper output transformer in the radio. As > of now, I'm using a huge transformer that I think was made for at the very > least 6L6 outputs, possibly even something larger, I think about 30-40 watts > total output, and it doesn't match particularly well to the 6F6 tubes in the > radio... although it does do a better job of matching to one of my speakers > than the 500 ohm output on the existing transformer in the radio. > > Anyway, that's my story for now, and I'm sticking to it. :) Anyone with > hints and tips regarding this radio feel free to e-mail me. Way to go, Brenda! How about just matching that 500 ohm output with a small universal? Article: 334315 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Todd Subject: Re: transistors needed to repair a Harman Kardon Citation Twelve Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 10:23:36 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147532491.209357.247530@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On Sat, 13 May 2006 08:01:31 -0700, amradio wrote: > Hi, > I need to buy all transistors for one complete way of my "Harman Kardon > Citation Twelve Amp" that's to say : > > HK 43024217 > HK 43024306 or RCA 40408 one unit > HK 43024219 or RCA 40595 one unit > HK 43023221 or 2N5232 one unit > HK 43024218 or RCA 40594 one unit > HK 43024216 or RCA 40636 two units > > Harman Kardon has no longer ... > Have you any idea about a place to find this ? > > Thank you very much. > Best Regards > > Marc What do you have against NTE? In most cases, I consider NTE is an upgrade in quality over OEM parts. cheers. Article: 334316 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Al Z." References: Subject: Re: Antique Radio Swap Meet, NEXT SATURDAY, May 20th. Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 14:49:09 -0400 Message-ID: <446760d5$0$29263$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "If you've never attended one of our Saturday morning events before please understand that these events start early and are all over before 12noon." is exactly why I never go to these meets and never will as long as they are like this. It's just in not worth the trip for just a few hours of sales time. Why do you have such short meets? What a waste of time! *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** Article: 334317 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: FA: Capacitor Analyzer Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 13:53:11 -0400 http://tinyurl.com/gxlrq ZM-3 U/A __________________________________________________________ KE4ODD It’s Christianity vs. Islam. Let’s get this party started! Article: 334318 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com> <126enugemuj8c54@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 17:35:09 GMT - exray - wrote in message > > This was still popular with homebrew race car folks for dashboards in > the 60s-70s. I wouldn't be surprised if it still were. > When I have to build a piece of test equipment for work and use an alum. front panel, I always engine turn it instead of leaving it raw alum. or paint it that someone will just scratch off. Ron Article: 334319 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <446760d5$0$29263$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Subject: Re: Antique Radio Swap Meet, NEXT SATURDAY, May 20th. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 18:06:15 GMT Al Z. wrote in message news:446760d5$0$29263 > Why do you have such short meets? What a waste of time! > This is just a Saturday morning swap meet, when the vendors sell out they go home. Even the best flea markets are only good for about 3 or 4 hours. After that everyone is just standing around. Ron Article: 334320 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <446760d5$0$29263$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Subject: Re: Antique Radio Swap Meet, NEXT SATURDAY, May 20th. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 18:40:56 GMT Al Z. wrote in message > Why do you have such short meets? What a waste of time! > Our annual conference lasts for 3 days, then we have some folks that whine that it's too long, they. It's really hard to make everyone happy. Ron Article: 334321 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Message-ID: <9gve6259hmgu45l1vuf4p1ua020esvsvit@4ax.com> References: <1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com> <126enugemuj8c54@corp.supernews.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 18:59:48 GMT On Sun, 14 May 2006 12:50:18 -0400, - exray - wrote: > >This was still popular with homebrew race car folks for dashboards in >the 60s-70s. I wouldn't be surprised if it still were. > >-Bill http://www.alarmclocksonline.com/SpiritofStLouis.htm Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 334322 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 11:51:49 -0700 Message-ID: <469-44677C45-221@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: <126dg84g6qj6594@corp.supernews.com> To Bill (exray) I feel badly for my remark about baggies/ parts/ subs etc., which was meant in a generic sense. I should have clarified it better. Yours is certainly a beaufiful job, not just in the troubleshooting aspect, but in uniquely fabricating from those tubes from scratch.. far beyond my skill/patience level. Bill(oc) Article: 334323 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: Capacitor Checker? Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 15:17:47 -0400 Message-ID: <9bac98639c28e70f8d2483cfc1099228@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: <1147616124.215237.41350@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Replace them. When I started fixing up old radios, I'd test and alot **Absolute right, Gary; change 'em. I've been using one of those capacitance meters that looks like a hand multimeter and it works fine except for leakage. If I want minimal cap changes (like in an AK with brittle wiring), I use a Philco 60 transformer B+ winding, rectify and filter it, and have a series meter and resistor to the test clips; it puts close to 600 volts DC across the cap (one lead lifted) under test and if there is any leakage I will see it on the meter. (The series resistor sets full scale on the meter). It's dangerous but it works great. Hoping to live for another day, Pete O. Article: 334324 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 15:45:07 -0400 Message-ID: <126f2686svkj527@corp.supernews.com> References: <126dg84g6qj6594@corp.supernews.com> <469-44677C45-221@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> Bill Sheppard wrote: > To Bill (exray) > > I feel badly for my remark about baggies/ parts/ subs etc., which was > meant in a generic sense. I should have clarified it better. Yours is > certainly a beaufiful job, not just in the troubleshooting aspect, but > in uniquely fabricating from those tubes from scratch.. far beyond my > skill/patience level. > Bill(oc) > Thanks, no offense taken. -Bill M Article: 334325 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "YT" References: Subject: Re: Antique Radio Swap Meet, NEXT SATURDAY, May 20th. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 21:21:16 GMT Same weekend as Dayton. Absolutely brilliant. " Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:UGx9g.192$lm.57@tornado.southeast.rr.com... > > The Carolinas Chapter of the Antique Wireless Association > will host our "Spring Antique Radio Swap Meet" next Saturday > May, 20th 2006, at the North Carolina Transportation Museum > "Spencer Shops" located in Spencer, North Carolina. > > Spencer is located just off I-85 a few miles north > of Salisbury, NC. > > You can find detailed driving directions on the CC-AWA web > page at http://www.cc-awa.org > > As always with our Saturday events, admission is FREE, > vendor setup is only $5. > > If you've never attended one of our Saturday morning events > before please understand that these events start early and are all over > before 12noon. > > The park officially opens the gates at 8AM, but folks are usually > there by around 7AM. > If you sleep late and show up at 10 or 11 all you'll get to see is > the early birds packing up and heading home. > > We look forward to seeing everyone there. > > > 73, Ron kc4yoy > > Radio Collection Web Page, > http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com > > > > > > Article: 334326 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1147641627.395284.10690@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Back from Kutztown! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 22:17:24 GMT Thanks. So do I. The warrantee on my website is really only a formality, if something goes wrong just send it back and it will get taken care of. Ive even been known to make service calls :-) Keith "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1147641627.395284.10690@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Keith: > > I appreciate the note. But you know where to find me if there are _ANY_ > problems with that radio. I try to stand 'right up front' of my work > rather than hide behind it. > > On Kutztown: It went well for all that I spoke to. I arrived with a > bulging VW Camper and left with less than 1/3 of the original contents, > including all my equipment and purchases. Prices were excellent, > variety extensive and the company pleasant. One individual forgot to > pay me $40 on an item (he was short), but I found a note in my e-mail > this morning that the check was on its way. > > The presentation on Crystal radios went well, and the radios described > in it were there to prove the theory discussed. Lewie demonstrated a > battery powered T/O that he had gone over and tweaked... > > My "buy of the meet" was a five-pack of Zenith branded 1U6s which are a > near drop-in replacement for the 1L6. That and a very nice leather 600. > > > The next event is in September. Plan now. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 334327 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 6 volt vibrator From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1147570225.299192.129740@d71g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 23:16:32 GMT In article , spikewilliams@qx.net says... > > well you could probably run this radio on a good stiff 6.3 volt filament transformer ... now I am guessing that since the vibrator is a 6 pin one that it is doing double duty here.. first set of contacts are chopping up the 6 volts DC ... into sort of AC then it goes through the transformer and the voltage is now up around 150 to 175 volts or so.. and the 2nd set of syncronous contacts is UnChopping that stuff back into sort of smooth DC high voltage.. add filter caps and a bit of choke and your radio is happy... so if you stuff 6.3 AC 60 cycle into it and replace the 2nd set of choppers with a diode rectifier .. it most likely will work.. John k9uwa Article: 334328 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4467BAF8.11354359@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Ronette Cartridge pin connections References: <1146368145.598451.67720@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 23:21:04 GMT Gerry wrote: > > Drat! Wouldn't you know it? The Library is closed on Sunday. Does > anyone happen to have this schematic? > > I actually managed to find the VM version of the Seabreeze phono on > eBay. Looks like the model 357. Naturally, someone else found it too, > and now it's more than I can afford. I can't win! > > I like the Seabreeze/VM because it's compact and has a nice sound. > Looks like I've got three options: Try to replace those capacitors > myself (with the group's help); buy another from eBay; or try and build > myself a custom tube amp stereo from some others I have lying about. > What about combining two schoolhouse phonos (Newcomb or Audiotronics) > with a VM stereo changer? Is it possible to combine the volume and > tone controls using the double contols? I have a spare "suitcase" > portable cabinet I can use (I parted one phono out to fix others). > > Frustrated in Baltimore, > Gerry > That V-M model is in Sams 649-9. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida From jsmcauley'at'earthlink.net Mon May 15 04:18:54 EDT 2006 Article: 334329 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: js mcauley Reply-To: jsmcauley'at'earthlink.net User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Glass Audio magazine References: <1147606473.609250.56800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <44674BD0.B5731EA2@earthlink.net> In-Reply-To: <44674BD0.B5731EA2@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 0619-3, 05/12/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Lines: 19 Message-ID: <8tQ9g.4635$u4.133@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 01:05:08 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.87.139.208 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net 1147655108 65.87.139.208 (Sun, 14 May 2006 18:05:08 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 18:05:08 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!oshean-news.uri.edu!128.230.129.112.MISMATCH!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!elnk-pas-nf1!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net.POSTED!1800c27c!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:334329 Michael A. Terrell wrote: > CAINE wrote: > >>Has anyone subscribed to or read Glass Audio before ? I picked up 4 >>issues for a quarter each at a flea market sale yesterday, this >>magazine is amazing. Every issue is full of info on push pull vs. >>single ended, pentode vs. triode, followers, home built amps, etc. >>Also discusses various tube designs, and the charactersistics of each >>tube by part number. > > > > Take this to news:rec.audio.tubes where they give a damn. > > I used to subscribe to Glass Audio. Not a bad little magazine. Interesting construction articles and in depth technical articles. Some of the usual AudioPhoolery, but overall better than most. Scott. Article: 334330 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4467D589.2FDDE4D4@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Rubber revitalizer? References: <1147480090.222846.96640@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7vh9g.201$mU6.45@trnddc07> <%Qj9g.44520$kW2.366162@wagner.videotron.net> <6f2c62tsphns6kml9kprmpnlt4057b5fug@4ax.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 01:14:33 GMT John Powers wrote: > > I've used a number of things over the years. I've seen the TEAC stuff > mentioned and that was pretty good stuff. > > I have a small (empty) bottle of stuff from PRB-Line (Projector-Recorder > Belt, Whitewater, WI 53190 414-473-2151) called "Rubber Cleaner Revitalizer > P/N RCR21. I bought it when the TEAC stuff ran out... worked just as well. > It says it contains Methyl Propasol Acetate (CAS# 108-65-6). > > The latest stuff I have is from MG Chemicals and is called Rubber Renue > http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/408a.html. It works well also and it > says it contains Dimethyl Benzine (CAS# 1330-20-7) and Methyl Salicylate > (CAS# 119-36-8). The synthetic "Oil of Wintergreen" I bought from a pharmacy is 98% Methyl Salicylate. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334331 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: japanese kit radio References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 01:44:50 GMT Use http://babelfish.altavista.com/babelfish/tr To get a sort of english translation of that page. It is rather fascinating. Jeff cornytheclown@hotmail.com wrote: > Thought some here might like seeing this. > > modern japanese science kit of a tube radio....looks neat.....book > condenser, three miniature tubes..loop antenna with what looks like > cloth wire..... > > http://shop.gakken.co.jp/otonanokagaku/vol18.html > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 334332 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: japanese kit radio Message-ID: <2LR9g.4669$UY6.2171@trnddc08> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 02:32:30 GMT It definitely beats the heck out of that "genuine" Atwater-Kent breadboard radio with miniature tubes that was posted on eBay a few months ago. For one thing it has a speaker. I can't read Japanese, and don't want to install one of those language programs, but it appears to be sold as just what it is -- a cute kit. For the tinkerer, it can make for a neat little radio that can be a conversation piece in the corner of any living room or office. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Thought some here might like seeing this. > > modern japanese science kit of a tube radio....looks neat.....book > condenser, three miniature tubes..loop antenna with what looks like > cloth wire..... > > http://shop.gakken.co.jp/otonanokagaku/vol18.html > Article: 334333 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Glass Audio magazine Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 20:50:41 -0700 Message-ID: <9juf62dndmg20pcf141hs03upg0u7f226r@4ax.com> References: <1147606473.609250.56800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <44674BD0.B5731EA2@earthlink.net> <8tQ9g.4635$u4.133@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <4467E1F4.594F6128@earthlink.net> On Mon, 15 May 2006 02:07:37 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >My >favorites to collect and restore is early test equipment, and the heavy >duty, built to last a lifetime radios and industrial equipment. ...spoken like a man who MUST own a very nice R390! Article: 334334 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: Subject: Re: 6 volt vibrator Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 23:39:17 -0500 Message-ID: <44680564$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> "Uncle Pete" wrote in message news:taR9g.59742$IZ2.50341@dukeread07... > The RMS voltages are about the same, the limiting factor is the core > material in > the transformer--vibrators usually run faster than 60Hz, and running the > transformer on 60 cycles might cause the core to overheat. I used to do it > all > the time with old car radios when I was a kid, and got away with it... If the "hand test" is worth anything (for me it should; my hands are very sensitive to heat) it seemed to work okay with my Zenith 6V27. I ditched the vibrator and installed a transformer with two 2A 6V windings underchassis. One feeds the heaters, the other feeds the old vibrator transformer. The output of the vibrator transformer is full-wave bridge rectified, and then on to the filter caps. The vibrator transformer doesn't get too hot and the B voltages nearly match the original design because it's stepped up the same way. Works nicely. paul Article: 334335 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Powers" References: <1147480090.222846.96640@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7vh9g.201$mU6.45@trnddc07> <%Qj9g.44520$kW2.366162@wagner.videotron.net> <6f2c62tsphns6kml9kprmpnlt4057b5fug@4ax.com> <4467D589.2FDDE4D4@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Rubber revitalizer? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 05:54:49 GMT I'll have to get some of that wintergreen and check it out... inexpensive? JP "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:4467D589.2FDDE4D4@earthlink.net... > John Powers wrote: >> >> I've used a number of things over the years. I've seen the TEAC stuff >> mentioned and that was pretty good stuff. >> >> I have a small (empty) bottle of stuff from PRB-Line (Projector-Recorder >> Belt, Whitewater, WI 53190 414-473-2151) called "Rubber Cleaner >> Revitalizer >> P/N RCR21. I bought it when the TEAC stuff ran out... worked just as >> well. >> It says it contains Methyl Propasol Acetate (CAS# 108-65-6). >> >> The latest stuff I have is from MG Chemicals and is called Rubber Renue >> http://www.mgchemicals.com/products/408a.html. It works well also and it >> says it contains Dimethyl Benzine (CAS# 1330-20-7) and Methyl Salicylate >> (CAS# 119-36-8). > > > The synthetic "Oil of Wintergreen" I bought from a pharmacy is 98% > Methyl Salicylate. > > > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 334336 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: biascomms Subject: Re: japanese kit radio References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2LR9g.4669$UY6.2171@trnddc08> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 06:12:42 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > I can't read Japanese, and don't want to install one of those language > programs, You don't need to /install/ anything - "babelfish" just redirects the page you want translated to another web site that does the translation, then displays it in your browser just like any other web page. It's one of the most sophisticated web applications, but the translations (obviously) aren't perfect, and can sometimes be hilarious! Bob -- Everything gets easier with practice, except getting up in the morning! Article: 334337 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: japanese kit radio Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 03:01:55 -0400 Message-ID: <126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com> References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> cornytheclown@hotmail.com wrote: > Thought some here might like seeing this. > > modern japanese science kit of a tube radio....looks neat.....book > condenser, three miniature tubes..loop antenna with what looks like > cloth wire..... > > http://shop.gakken.co.jp/otonanokagaku/vol18.html > Dietary Fiber-challenged "Ron" will probably make his soup out of my shorts again but I homebrewed my own version of this set sans anything made of plastic or the weenie 20-25cm loop and phony horn. These sets are available on ebay and not so bad a bargain for a guy that wants to build a set but not go chasing around for individual components. You can find the schematic and details on other ebay listings. There's some yakk on ARF for those wanting to investigate deeper. Its further evidence of my "blue butchering period" of fake tubes like the Radio LL :) Its a cute little receiver - nothing to write home about and struggles to drive a horn, fake or otherwise, on anything but locals. Maybe over-represented in that regard. Toss the horn and use phones and its quite respectable for 'radio' person. http://www.sparkbench.com/gekken/gekken.html Its a clean sounding rig and shouldn't be any disappointment in its price class unless you compare it to an old plastic $5 clock radio. Its the kit that counts! -Bill ( the Butcher) Article: 334338 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: japanese kit radio References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 07:23:53 GMT - exray - wrote: > I homebrewed my own version of this set > > http://www.sparkbench.com/gekken/gekken.html You tease... Where's the schematic? Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 334339 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: japanese kit radio References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com> <1147677079.106354.289410@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <73W9g.3259$uM4.2179@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 07:26:59 GMT Steven wrote: > How about if I patch my halli into my 120 watt Pioneer that "looks" > like a Icom, Drake or Yaesu? That's twice now you've posted that link. I doesn't look anything at all like an Icom or Yaesu. And most certainly not like a Drake. If anything, it looks like an over priced midrange consumer radio from the 80s. Which it is. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 334340 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: japanese kit radio Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 04:05:57 -0400 Message-ID: <126gdjb5ge3i5f@corp.supernews.com> References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com> Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > - exray - wrote: > >> I homebrewed my own version of this set >> >> http://www.sparkbench.com/gekken/gekken.html > > > You tease... Where's the schematic? > > Jeff > How's this? http://www.sparkbench.com/gekken/gekken.gif -Bill Article: 334341 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 6 volt vibrator From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <44680564$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 12:33:13 GMT In article <44680564$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net>, pdieten@NyOaShPoAoM.com says... > > >If the "hand test" is worth anything (for me it should; my hands are very >sensitive to heat) it seemed to work okay with my Zenith 6V27. I ditched the >vibrator and installed a transformer with two 2A 6V windings underchassis. >One feeds the heaters, the other feeds the old vibrator transformer. The >output of the vibrator transformer is full-wave bridge rectified, and then >on to the filter caps. The vibrator transformer doesn't get too hot and the >B voltages nearly match the original design because it's stepped up the same >way. Works nicely. > >paul > > I never liked the sound that came from the speakers Zenith used in the 6V27 radios.. something about that little pin cushion affair that just sounded tinny ... wonder if yours sounds the same or not Paul?... John Article: 334342 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: japanese kit radio References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com> <126gdjb5ge3i5f@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 12:45:41 GMT - exray - wrote: > How's this? > http://www.sparkbench.com/gekken/gekken.gif > > -Bill Thankies Mr. Bill. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 334343 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: japanese kit radio Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 07:49:34 -0500 "- exray -" wrote in message news:126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com... > cornytheclown@hotmail.com wrote: > >> Thought some here might like seeing this. >> >> modern japanese science kit of a tube radio....looks neat.....book >> condenser, three miniature tubes..loop antenna with what looks like >> cloth wire..... >> >> http://shop.gakken.co.jp/otonanokagaku/vol18.html >> I like your version of the peanut tube Bill. They got a little of that Arcturus sheen to em too. Cool!! -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 334344 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 13:26:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com> In "Bruce Mercer" writes: >That motif was found on the 1936-37 810-812 front wheel drive Cord >automobiles, which was said to have the most beautiful dashboard of any car >made. It was an 'aircraft' motif. IIRC the Spirit of St. Louis was finished >the same way. I think it was called "jewelling" , although I wouldn't swear >to that at the moment. Beautiful though. E.L. Cord must have thought so too. Ah, Cords. My dream car. The ultimate mah-chine automobile. Everybody who was anybody back in the day was tooling around in one -- Amelia Earhart, John Wayne, Tom Mix, numerous gangsters. Whenever I tell poeple I want a Cord they'll say "An Accord?!! Why would you want an Accord?" :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 334345 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stan" References: Subject: Re: Schematic for newer TV. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 10:53:07 -0230 "Brenda Ann" and others wrote in response to "Stan" re >> A schematic for a 1999 JVC TV Model # AV27020 Serial 064307; using >> Chassis A67. With top of screen fold over/linearity problem etc. >> Thank you all for the advice and guidance. Yeah I would also suspect one of those physically small electrolytics. We fixed another model with a similar vertical problem several years ago which had a faulty 4 mfd. cap about as big as end of one's finger. As a temporary fix it looked weird with two 50 year old (2Kv test) 2 mfd. caps hanging on wires off the chassis. But it worked! Since replaced it has been our daily driver for four last years! Help appreciated. Terry Article: 334346 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <44680564$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> Subject: Re: 6 volt vibrator Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 08:46:27 -0500 Message-ID: <446878b5$0$29268$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:dy_9g.149983$oL.82682@attbi_s71... > I never liked the sound that came from the speakers Zenith used in > the 6V27 radios.. something about that little pin cushion affair > that just sounded tinny ... wonder if yours sounds the same or not > Paul?... Well, it obviously can't keep up with an 8" dynamic speaker but I didn't think mine was tinny. If you expect a sound as big as the cabinet I imagine you'd be disappointed, but I thought it was passable for use, no worse than any 6" antique-radio speaker I ever listen to. Of course I'm not a particularly discriminating listener so your mileage may vary, so to speak. I had it at work for awhile and was listening to it all day long for a few weeks, it didn't bother me a bit. My set now has a 41 as the output tube that is directly driving the speaker (no output transformer). You recall that speaker has three terminals. When I did mine I left the center tap unconnected, fed B+ to one end of the speaker and connected the 41 plate to the other side. Worked surprisingly well. Doesn't make huge volume but plenty loud to listen to. paul *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** Article: 334347 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stan" References: Subject: Re: 6 volt vibrator Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 11:18:34 -0230 "Theresa McCarty" wrote in message news:veGdnTIlqMiq6vvZRVn-rA@qx.net... >I was thinking... uh-oh! > I could bypass a 6 volt vibrator by using an output transformer with a > secondary of 2.5V [or 2.5vct]. > I had been thinking of a secondary with 6.3V and then realized the outputs > on most of the old radio transformers are AC, thus output VAC times 1.414. > **drool** > > Not sure if this is a four pin vibrator (non-synchronous) or a six pin (synchronous)? If it's the former may be worth mentioning that I operate a two tube heterodyne frequency checking wavemeter originally designed for 6 volts DC >from the 6.3 volts AC input from the heater winding of an associated receiver. The 6.3 AC heats the wavemeter tubes and is also fed to the transformer that normal steps up the chopped 6 volts DC to provide B+ (there's two 1940s metal oxide rectifiers in the B+ side by the way. Still working by the smell of it!) This was done by removing the vibrator. Then using a the base of an old tube strapping it across so that the 6.3 volts AC is permanently applied to one 'side' of the input to the transformer in place of the chopped DC that is normally fed alternately to each 'side' of the vibrator transformer (i.e. One half of the input winding is carrying the total load all the time. And the 'steady 6.3v 60 Hz. AC is just as good (cleaner probably) than the chopped DC and any "hash" (no not the pipe smoking kind!) must be less? It's worked that way for about thirty years with no sign of the vibrator transformer overheating, although we are talking ex-military gear. Also the B+ draw for the device is quite small but if the transformer in say an older type car radio can carry the wattage required by the B+ circuits the input vibrator transformer input windings should handle the amperage? Have never had to work out how to do it for synchronous circuit but must also be possible? Suggestion anyway. Figure out how to substitute using 6.3v AC from somewhere (external transformer say) instead of 6v DC. Such a transformer could be 'hidden', depending on application, in a speaker box? Article: 334348 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: CAINE's amazing monoblock push-pull 6V6 amp's References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 11:02:43 -0400 Can you post a schematic? Ken John Byrns wrote: > I was amazed by the sophistication of the design of CAINE's Webcor dual > monoblock push-pull 6V6's after getting a look at a readable copy of the > circuit diagram. The circuit uses cathode feedback in the output stage > just like the famous QUAD II, an amplifier much favored by many > audiophiles. In addition to the cathode feedback Webcor even went so far > us to use a paraphase phase inverter circuit similar to that used in the > QUAD, although the Webcor implementation of the paraphase phase inverter > includes one design detail that I don't fully understand. These Webcor > amplifiers look like the poor man's QUAD II. Besides QUAD, Webcor was in > good company with this design, as McIntosh also used the cathode feedback > circuit in the design of their tube receivers. IIRC a similar circuit was > also used in some Bogen amplifiers like those much favored by one of the > two founders of this newsgroup, although not believing in stereo he used > only a single amplifier. > > > Regards, > > John Byrns > > > Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ Article: 334349 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: japanese kit radio Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 11:50:47 -0400 Message-ID: <126h8qta39f393@corp.supernews.com> References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com> John Byrns wrote: > > What is "ARF", I hope it's not one of those alternative forums? > > > Regards, > > John Byrns http://antiqueradios.com/forums/ Article: 334350 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Allodoxaphobia Subject: Re: japanese kit radio Date: 15 May 2006 16:05:03 GMT Message-ID: References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com> <126gdjb5ge3i5f@corp.supernews.com> On Mon, 15 May 2006 12:45:41 GMT, Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > - exray - wrote: >> How's this? >> http://www.sparkbench.com/gekken/gekken.gif >> > > Thankies Mr. Bill. I really miss the Olde Tyme Wireless Apparatus where you ran the B+ through the earphones!! :-) Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux 38.24N 104.55W | @ config.com | Jonesy | OS/2 *** Killfiling google posts: Article: 334351 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4468B5B6.EBEA1CE1@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: WTD: Unobtainium! References: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 17:11:40 GMT Stephanie Weil wrote: > > >Ken Scharf said: > >You can use half of a 3AG fuse holder for the grid cap connector. > > I told her about that trick already. Then again.....there's always > Leeds Radio in Brooklyn (expensive place). This guy might have grid > caps: > > http://www.leedselect.com > > http://www.leedselect.com/images-sockets/Gridcap-metal.JPG > > Four for SEVEN DOLLARS. > > Only bought from this guy ONCE, when I was in desperate need for a > cheater-cord for a small radio. Cost me five clams. >_< > > -- > Stephanie Weil > New York City Just think of the places you could have wandered through if they didn't gut Canal Street to build the World Trade Canter complex. Dozens of real electronics surplus shops forced out of business by greed. :( -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334352 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: japanese kit radio References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2LR9g.4669$UY6.2171@trnddc08> <1147675442.001496.274160@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 17:35:27 GMT Steven wrote: > That's because JAPANESE is hilarious, or at least because it's so > non-linear to English, like so many other languages. Languages like > Japanese, eastern European languages and dialects are seemingly quite > literal and don't lend themselves well to some of the fairly relaxed > structures of general English. Cultural differences tend to make > Western linguistic concepts more unnatural also. If you make light of > the "funny" way foreigners piece our words together, remember that they > are using the best words they know how in the way they can relate to. One of my Chinese friends once commented that English has a much bigger vocabulary compared to his home language. I mentioned that is because we have pirated lots of foreign language words to use when english words don't quite fit the needed meaning. > > I still think that any company selling VCRs etc here should honestly > let a North American draft it in English with North American readers in > mind. A friend of mine owns an advertising company, and he does a lot of work with Japanese consumer electronics companies. A big part of the work is to clean up the translations of ad copy to have it make sense to Americans. More often he does a complete rewrite of the ads. Article: 334353 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4468BDBE.5D286B81@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: WTD: Unobtainium! References: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 17:43:29 GMT Stephanie Weil wrote: > > Oh God, Michael, don't get me started.... > > Every time I think of Radio Row, I cry inside. Seriously. :( > > I hate having to rely on mail-order places for insignificant things > like capacitors, diodes and resistors. > > And the fact is....while Leeds Radio provides a service, the prices are > high. Cost of doing business, even if what was once a grand old store > is now reduced to an old garage/warehouse. > > At least Seoul, ROK still has a "Radio Row", of sorts. > -- > Steph Sorry, I didn't mean to upset you. I used to mail order from a number of shops on NY's radio row back in the '70s. Some of the stuff was sold by the pound and you had to figure out what the grainy little ads meant in magazines, or the occasional catalog. If you ever visit Ohio there a still a few places there. Fair Radio in Lima, Mendelson's in Dayton and a few smaller ones. I haven't been able to get up there since Christmas of 1987 when i went up to visit my sister and other family members. http://www.fairradio.com/ http://www.meci.com/ -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334354 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: WTD: Unobtainium! Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 18:02:56 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1147712790.613063.89160@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4468B5B6.EBEA1CE1@earthlink.net> In <4468B5B6.EBEA1CE1@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: > Just think of the places you could have wandered through if they >didn't gut Canal Street to build the World Trade Canter complex. That was Cortland street, "Radio Row". Canal Street's still there, but mostly selling knock-off Gucci and sun-baked duct tape. >Dozens of real electronics surplus shops forced out of business by greed. :( I moved to NYC in time for the last gasp of the "real electronic surplus shops" on Canal. Most of them went out of business because they needed to eat -- no one was buying the merchandise. I remember the auction ad in the New York Times for one of the big 'uns toward the west end of Canal. I didn't attend the auction, but later ran into one of the guys who owned the shop. He said thousands and thousands and thousands of tubes, many of which were octals, went on the block without garnering a single bid. Times change. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 334355 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: WTD: Unobtainium! Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 18:19:34 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1147712790.613063.89160@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4468B5B6.EBEA1CE1@earthlink.net> <1147716822.730850.281990@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In <1147716822.730850.281990@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Stephanie Weil" writes: [Canal Street] >I remember being only a 17 year old puke and wandering around that area >for some 'lytics for a filter on a radio. >One store I stopped in was an air-conditioner parts place. Dusty >looking, dark joint. Only reason I went in there was because I saw ... >yeah, capacitors, in the window. The fan place! I know what you're talking about. Wonder if they're still there? I haven't taken a Saturday stroll down Canal Street in an Internet age, even though I like a coupla stops away. Gotta go again soon... -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 334356 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: The Fisher 500C is Now For Sale, Not Mine!! Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 11:36:02 -0700 Message-ID: References: <-_adna9OOpMo3MfZRVn-vg@comcast.com> <1147694427.941618.108630@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 15 May 2006 05:00:28 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >----- Original Message ----- > >To: CAINE >Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 4:25 PM >Subject: Re: Audiogon listing: Fisher 500c > > >> Charlie, >> >> I've been listening to the FM on the Fisher for the better part of the >> weekend now. >> It pulls in more stations than my Sony ST-S555ES solid-state tuner, >> and with greater signal strength. >> >> The unit sounds wonderful for a 40+ year old piece of gear. >> >> It was a pleasure to do business with you. Note the quoting. It's a faked email...no headers, quotes on the body...another NudoFraud. Article: 334357 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Glass Audio magazine Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 11:39:23 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147606473.609250.56800@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <44674BD0.B5731EA2@earthlink.net> <8tQ9g.4635$u4.133@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <4467E1F4.594F6128@earthlink.net> <9juf62dndmg20pcf141hs03upg0u7f226r@4ax.com> <4467FD58.FE4BD022@earthlink.net> On Mon, 15 May 2006 04:04:32 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >DeserTBoB wrote: >> >> On Mon, 15 May 2006 02:07:37 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" >> wrote: >> >> >My >> >favorites to collect and restore is early test equipment, and the heavy >> >duty, built to last a lifetime radios and industrial equipment. >> >> ...spoken like a man who MUST own a very nice R390! > > > Not yet, but I have been looking for one. I have to pay off my >mortgage and do a few other things, first, unless one shows up at my >door, unannounced. I seem to have that happen a lot more often than I >can explain. :) They're wonderful! A must-have is the dual concentric aluminum alignment tool for the IF cans, and there are a lot of them. Makes the long, complicated lineup much easier. Article: 334358 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: WTD: Unobtainium! References: <1147712790.613063.89160@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4468B5B6.EBEA1CE1@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 21:27:08 GMT > > Canal Street's still > there, but mostly selling knock-off Gucci and sun-baked duct tape. > > > > I moved to NYC in time for the last gasp of the "real electronic > surplus shops" on Canal. Most of them went out of business because > they needed to eat -- no one was buying the merchandise. Back in around 1975 I was a starving college student looking for a reel to reel deck. Visited the various shops on and around Canal St. Didn't find much though I did waste about $20 on a machine that turned out to be a POS. Shopkeeper sold me the machine without the cover, said I could come back and buy the cover. Didn't as I found after I got home the thing was a real POS. Gutted it for a few tubes and a power transformer and power cord, tossed the rest of it. About 25 years later I was with a Chinese friend going to Chinatown. Canal St. is somewhat nearby. We ended up walking around the same neighborhood I was in back in 1975 but all the old shops were then Italian or Chinese restaurants (IIRC). Article: 334359 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4468F273.FC87A8A5@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ? References: <1146842828.653361.213950@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1147047964.067315.113080@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1147088976.955519.302970@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1147090329.964425.117680@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8qpu529a9rrhkqof0ugdm84ackupnt2ifo@4ax.com> <1147695854.029598.32660@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 21:28:20 GMT robert casey wrote: > > > That "100 WPC" SS advertising is BS, for the most part. Even at 20 > > watts output, the SS amp is unlistenable, due to distortion. It will > > just sound horrible. So they are advertising watts that for the most > > part, cannot be used. > > > > For some real advertising BS, take a trip down to your local Wall Mart > and look at the boom boxes. "200W @10% THD". Like you'd actually > listen to 10% THD from a SS amp! :-) Not for very long. The tweeters would burn up, followed by the amp. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334360 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 23:04:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com> In "William Sommerwerck" writes: [Cord automobiles] >Visible exhaust pipes. Only the supercharged models had those. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 334361 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" Subject: I almost cried Message-ID: <7y8ag.40989$cY3.29967@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 23:55:47 GMT Then I noticed "reproduction": http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6630002719 Article: 334362 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <3c9f62p8l5rgegbiqcog2rckuntdunnj0m@4ax.com> Subject: Re: You've heard of Ames, now get ready for Dunbar!! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 00:23:51 GMT Geeze. Talk about hard-sell. That should have a "boots needed" warning on it. It was piled really deep. All that for a Euro-design knock-off. Bets that he went to art school? Ray "Ish" wrote in message news:3c9f62p8l5rgegbiqcog2rckuntdunnj0m@4ax.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/MODERNIST-RCA-CLOCK-RADIO-Knoll-Dunbar-Era-1958_W0QQitemZ6628833227QQcategoryZ3931QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting Article: 334363 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <387i62dnr374de5k663vmn7q7rfp85506k@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Testing a 6B5 tube Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 20:02:39 -0500 Message-ID: <44691733$0$29242$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Set up your tester for 6N6. Same tube, different base. Good luck paul "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:387i62dnr374de5k663vmn7q7rfp85506k@4ax.com... > Why don't any of my tube testers list a 6B5 tube in their charts? Is > it that rare? > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** Article: 334364 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: You've heard of Ames, now get ready for Dunbar!! Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 18:15:31 -0700 Message-ID: References: <3c9f62p8l5rgegbiqcog2rckuntdunnj0m@4ax.com> On Tue, 16 May 2006 00:23:51 GMT, "Rune" wrote: >Geeze. Talk about hard-sell. That should have a "boots needed" warning on >it. It was piled really deep. > >All that for a Euro-design knock-off. > >Bets that he went to art school? I have one in turquoise. Article: 334365 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Telegraph Paper Value Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 18:20:58 -0700 Message-ID: References: <56e5g.1247$g01.930@trnddc01> <7226-44558745-248@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> <9r6b52lf0gpf4sv3ereuafa1k47fjdphbj@4ax.com> <1147740125.475516.28060@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 15 May 2006 17:42:05 -0700, helpdesk@telegrams.ca wrote: >Actually you can send a telegram in the US. That's a printed letter, similar to WUT's failed "MailGram" service that was supposed to eliminate the cost of telegram runners. Last real telegram I received via WUT was in 1979. I tipped the runner 50¢. Article: 334366 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" Subject: Zenith 9S367....need belt, tabs Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 18:22:19 -0700 Message-ID: <4469294e$0$65425$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Finally found a shuttle dial Zenith console radio! Its got its share of problems, which I'm currently working through. The tuning belt is toast, and AES doesn't seem to have these. Anyone know of a source? Is it possible to make one? I'll also need a few of those funky plastic tabs that are used in the front bezel. Steve Article: 334367 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Phil Witt Subject: Re: You've heard of Ames, now get ready for Dunbar!! Message-ID: <64bi621qsc9nptgmtqlfvlpog29m08h0t1@4ax.com> References: <3c9f62p8l5rgegbiqcog2rckuntdunnj0m@4ax.com> Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 20:37:32 -0500 On Mon, 15 May 2006 18:15:31 -0700, DeserTBoB wrote: >On Tue, 16 May 2006 00:23:51 GMT, "Rune" >wrote: > >>Geeze. Talk about hard-sell. That should have a "boots needed" warning on >>it. It was piled really deep. >> >>All that for a Euro-design knock-off. >> >>Bets that he went to art school? > >I have one in turquoise. Turquoise was the rarest Bakelite color, too. Article: 334368 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <7y8ag.40989$cY3.29967@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <1147740092.669608.314950@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1147741809.684150.234940@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: I almost cried Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 01:39:35 GMT Now that you mention it, there _would_ have been a certain satisfaction to hearing the screams from the catalin crazies at that... Ray "Bret Ludwig" wrote in message news:1147741809.684150.234940@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > If it had been a real one I would have enjoyed it more. > Article: 334369 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <7y8ag.40989$cY3.29967@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Subject: Re: I almost cried Message-ID: <_8aag.2345$Go6.2118@trnddc04> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 01:45:30 GMT With all of these goofy, crazy, messed-up radios that find their way to eBay, and get posted here for all of us to comment on, just remember they ALL have one thing in common: They're FOR SALE. . . . meaning, "I think it stinks, so I'm pawning it off on somebody else." If an artist actually did something NICE to one of these radios, and decided he likes it, it wouldn't be for sale, right? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Rune" wrote in message news:7y8ag.40989$cY3.29967@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com... > Then I noticed "reproduction": > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6630002719 > > > Article: 334370 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1147720095.714924.98960@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: boys radio question Message-ID: <0waag.63839$x97.28725@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 02:10:04 GMT Was there ever a "Girl's Radio?" A "WalkWoman?" A "GameGirl?" Remember this was the era of boys and girls having separate toy lines. (Still is in Japan.) I recall them being around till 1961 at the least. Ads were pretty much limited to comic books, boy's mags, tabloids, and similar venues. These were similar to the "miracle bargains" advertised in them today. Like the "Turn your House Wiring into a Super TV Antenna", "Miracle screen turns B&W TV into COLOR TV!", "Dish Antenna grabs signals >from the AIR for FREE!", "Double Gas Mileage With Spark Intensifier," and other stuff offered to gullible people who think they can get something for nothing. The last I saw of them was ads for card and seed company premiums ("Transistor radio - sell 20 boxes") around 1963. Probably old stock or outdated ad copy. When prices for _real_ radios fell AND the public wised up sales dropped. They _were_ toys, novelties, just like the crystal sets they replaced. I only saw them in crappo stores a few times. They were mostly mail order things because if people actually saw or tried one they would never buy it. The one I got (Angel) was a "prize" I won at a movie theater. I lived in a great reception area and it could get 4 or 5 stations. I wasn't thrilled. If you lived somewhere else... There was also a "toy" duty that several companies offering handmade brass scale models later fought to get exempted from. It was lower than the electronics duty but outlasted it. If you want to know when it was dropped just find out when American brands started slapping their names on Japanese stuff. They got it overturned when it failed to keep the imports from out-competing them and they wanted cheap access. 1963-5? About the time Hong Kong radios started to appear, IIRC. Ray "wagil" wrote in message news:1147720095.714924.98960@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I need help for an article I'm preparing about 2 transitor 'Boys' > radios from Japan in the mid 1950. Specifically I need help locating > the following: > > 1. a pic of a girls radio (the companion to the boys radio models > 2. Actual date of the customs restriction for Japanese radios with more > than 2 transistors. > 3. Actual date(s) 2 transistor boys radios were made > 4. An advertisement for these radios. > > Any help/clues/info appreciated. > > Wayne G. > Article: 334371 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Allodoxaphobia Subject: Re: japanese kit radio Date: 16 May 2006 02:44:04 GMT Message-ID: References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com> ["Followup-To:" header set to rec.radio.amateur.homebrew.] On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:09:09 -0600, Warren Weber wrote: > "- exray -" wrote in message > news:126g9rbc134ju53@corp.supernews.com... >> cornytheclown@hotmail.com wrote: >> >>> Thought some here might like seeing this. >>> >>> modern japanese science kit of a tube radio....looks neat.....book >>> condenser, three miniature tubes..loop antenna with what looks like >>> cloth wire..... >>> >>> http://shop.gakken.co.jp/otonanokagaku/vol18.html >> >> Dietary Fiber-challenged "Ron" will probably make his soup out of my >> shorts again but I homebrewed my own version of this set sans anything >> made of plastic or the weenie 20-25cm loop and phony horn. These sets are >> available on ebay and not so bad a bargain for a guy that wants to build a >> set but not go chasing around for individual components. You can find the >> schematic and details on other ebay listings. There's some yakk on ARF for >> those wanting to investigate deeper. >> Its further evidence of my "blue butchering period" of fake tubes like the >> Radio LL :) >> Its a cute little receiver - nothing to write home about and struggles to >> drive a horn, fake or otherwise, on anything but locals. Maybe >> over-represented in that regard. Toss the horn and use phones and its >> quite respectable for 'radio' person. >> http://www.sparkbench.com/gekken/gekken.html >> Its a clean sounding rig and shouldn't be any disappointment in its price >> class unless you compare it to an old plastic $5 clock radio. Its the kit >> that counts! > > Beautiful workmanship. My stuff won't look that good because I am "A non > practicing perfectionist." Warren Beautiful photography, too! FB OM!! 73 Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones | jonz | W3DHJ | linux 38.24N 104.55W | @ config.com | Jonesy | OS/2 *** Killfiling google posts: Article: 334372 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: You've heard of Ames, now get ready for Dunbar!! Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 20:25:53 -0700 Message-ID: References: <3c9f62p8l5rgegbiqcog2rckuntdunnj0m@4ax.com> <64bi621qsc9nptgmtqlfvlpog29m08h0t1@4ax.com> On Mon, 15 May 2006 20:37:32 -0500, Phil Witt wrote: >>I have one in turquoise. > >Turquoise was the rarest Bakelite color, too. Oooooh! I have a "rare collectable!" This radio was purchased new at Fedco on Los Angeles by my grandfather, and did yeoman morning news duty in the kitchen from date of purchase until retired for a late '70s "flipping card" clocker. I still use it at home when I need an alarm, which isn't very often. The brass legs cleaned up nicely and were relacquered. There was a similar model sans brass legs as well, as I recall. Performance is minature based AA5, nothing more, nothing less. Article: 334373 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ? Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 20:30:14 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147697408.984283.129540@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147706908.212228.193760@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147712421.446929.59660@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147715873.170367.296720@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1147741689.667236.95460@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> On 15 May 2006 18:08:09 -0700, "Peter Wieck" wrote: >The Saint-Saens (on a good recording) runs at about 20dB over-average >for that entire two minutes. Within that two minutes, there are >repeated and proximate 30dB peaks when the bombard That's "bombarde," and it's not the bombardes that provides all the power. The chordal figures of the thrid movement are all at tutti...full organ, including 32' pedal basses, which are the true test of any high fidelity system in the bottom end range. Very, very few systems can truly handle the bottom octave of a 32' rank. Article: 334374 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: Subject: Re: Zenith info from Riders needed Date: Mon, 15 May 2006 22:46:14 -0500 Message-ID: <44693d8a$0$24297$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Tom Adkins" wrote in message news:S8SdnUH2kuUtovTZRVn-ug@comcast.com... >Could someone take a look at the Riders index and see what other info is >available? I'll be happy to pay for scans of the additional info. Riders has nothing else. The original Zenith manual only had two pages for this model. The same schematic and parts list you're looking at, and a second page with socket voltages, trimmer locations and alignment procedure. I only have a scanned copy of the Zenith manual, the socket voltages aren't very readable but I sent you a GIF of that page. Good luck paul *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** Article: 334375 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <7y8ag.40989$cY3.29967@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <_8aag.2345$Go6.2118@trnddc04> Subject: Re: I almost cried Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 06:23:11 GMT If I had a repro like this I would find another way to express myself with it than by painting and doodling on it! Omer "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:_8aag.2345$Go6.2118@trnddc04... > With all of these goofy, crazy, messed-up radios that find their way to > eBay, and get posted here for all of us to comment on, just remember they > ALL have one thing in common: > > They're FOR SALE. > > . . . meaning, "I think it stinks, so I'm pawning it off on somebody > else." > > If an artist actually did something NICE to one of these radios, and > decided he likes it, it wouldn't be for sale, right? > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > "Rune" wrote in message > news:7y8ag.40989$cY3.29967@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com... >> Then I noticed "reproduction": >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6630002719 >> >> >> > > Article: 334376 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: Use the new and store the old? References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 02:54:53 -0500 John Powers wrote: > I decided to buy NOS tubes for my Stromberg-Carlson 335L so that I would > have spares, and also because the eye and output tubes were substitutions > instead of the original types. > > The tube compliment is: 80, 6A8, 6F5, 6F6G, 6H6, 6K7, 6U5. > > I intended to replace the eye and the output and use it like that and then > it occurred to me that perhaps I should store the existing tubes as spares > and install and use the new tubes. > > What do you guys think? Use the new and store the old, and why? If I replace > them, should I do it all at once or one at a time? Should I be rechecking > voltages and/or alignments? I recently went through the set, recapped and > replaced resistors which were out of tolerance, and I also added a fuse to > the primary side of the transformer. The set works well but of course I'd > like to squeeze every bit of performance and reliability I can from it. We > actually use it, my little girls love it! > > Thanks in advance, > > JP > > > I'd try it with the new tubes, but since it's a daily driver, leave the old ones in unless substitution revealed a major gain in performance. Just my $.02. YMMV.... jak Article: 334377 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bartley Subject: Re: 1920s French Superhet - Radio LL Super Baby References: <1268tosc5q82adb@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 07:13:33 -0400 William Sommerwerck wrote: > > > Articulated headlights. Visible exhaust pipes. > > And something that the manufacturers were pushing as "new technology" in the small cars of the 1980's :: front wheel drive. -- John Bartley Article: 334378 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) Subject: Re: boys radio question Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 07:37:38 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1147720095.714924.98960@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In article <1147720095.714924.98960@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "wagil" wrote: > I need help for an article I'm preparing about 2 transitor 'Boys' > radios from Japan in the mid 1950. Specifically I need help locating > the following: > > 1. a pic of a girls radio (the companion to the boys radio models > 2. Actual date of the customs restriction for Japanese radios with more > than 2 transistors. > 3. Actual date(s) 2 transistor boys radios were made > 4. An advertisement for these radios. > > Any help/clues/info appreciated. > > Wayne G. Hello, and regretfully I can't provide answers to your enquiry. I did own several of these radios in my youth in Cincinnati, OH and I usually could only receive WLW (700 KHz) and maybe one other local station. Appalling sensitivity compared to a 6-transistor Zenith superhet portable that one of my friends had (IIRC that radio retailed for around $30 in 1960-61 compared to the boys' radios at about $7) As for the innards of the 2-transistor sets, with the exception of where the volume control pot was placed in the circuit, they all used the same "reflex" topology, a very clever use of minimal components. And a Japanese 006P 9V battery was usually included! (those Jap 9V batteries quickly wore out). The schematic was often shown on the inside of the back cover. These radios also came with a screw-in telescoping antenna that provided a very small increase in sensitivity over that obtained when using only the internal ferrite bar antenna. I still have a "Hilton" boys' radio that I saved from years ago and it works fine. AFAIK there were no girls' 2-transistor radios. Never saw one in ballet pink. Sincerely, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 Article: 334379 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Use the new and store the old? Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 07:58:34 -0400 Message-ID: <126jfje7jdtp722@corp.supernews.com> References: John Powers wrote: > > What do you guys think? Use the new and store the old, and why? > > JP > > I'd store the new and use the old. There's nothing at all wrong with using the old tubes until they finally poop out although there is the caveat of a gassy output tube which could draw higher current, do other harm, yadda yadda but that isn't terribly common and the likelihood still exists with a new tube. So an argument one way or the other based on that is a non-starter. Go ahead and use them - what else can you do with them? :) The eye tube, rectifier and output tube generally will be the first ones to go in a set. The other tubes may last for the next 50 years. None of these tubes are rare or particularly expensive at this time although the 6F6G and 6U5 are suffering from upwards price creep even noticeable in just the past few years. Who knows about the future. I'd rather have a set of new tubes waiting on me in 20 years time than an old tired set of tubes! In that regard I'd also rather have two new 6U5s tucked away than 100 new 6H6s or 6K7s since the indicators point to that being a tough one for future radio guys to find/buy. -Bill Article: 334380 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: japanese kit radio Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 08:09:05 -0400 Message-ID: <126jg72pqfdp9f8@corp.supernews.com> References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147760777.223576.272860@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> cornytheclown@hotmail.com wrote: > Thanks for the babelfish link..thats pretty neat too. > > Anyhow I just thought this kit is kinda neat...dont see something like > this everyday...only things close usually have a cassette player or cd > player jammed into them...and no tubes.... I bet it is all plastic > too....the base, the horn everything... > > 150.00 USD on ebay ~:>....kinda steep..... if they were 30 bucks I'd > buy one just to get an up close look at it. These can be purchased directly from Gakken for about $100 with direct express shipping from JA. It is all plastic. -Bill Article: 334381 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <7y8ag.40989$cY3.29967@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <_8aag.2345$Go6.2118@trnddc04> Subject: Re: I almost cried Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 12:42:06 GMT Again, being any good I wouldn't be selling it. I've got one repro. It is a Crosley, styled after a Zenith -- the bakelite one with the pushbuttons on the right. It's actually not a bad little radio, so it sits on my bench in the garage. Who cares if it gets dusty, or if it sits in plain view with the garage door open? It's got no value, yet it's a cute radio for people to comment on. Meanwhile all the "good" radios are inside. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Omer Suleimanagich" wrote in message news:jdeag.2815$x4.1490@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > If I had a repro like this I would find another way to express myself with > it than by painting and doodling on it! > > Omer > > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:_8aag.2345$Go6.2118@trnddc04... >> With all of these goofy, crazy, messed-up radios that find their way to >> eBay, and get posted here for all of us to comment on, just remember they >> ALL have one thing in common: >> >> They're FOR SALE. >> >> . . . meaning, "I think it stinks, so I'm pawning it off on somebody >> else." >> >> If an artist actually did something NICE to one of these radios, and >> decided he likes it, it wouldn't be for sale, right? >> >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> >> "Rune" wrote in message >> news:7y8ag.40989$cY3.29967@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com... >>> Then I noticed "reproduction": >>> >>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6630002719 >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > Article: 334382 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg) Subject: Re: Zenith 9S367....need belt, tabs Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 07:56:35 -0700 Message-ID: <23388-4469E823-655@storefull-3113.bay.webtv.net> References: <1147776352.985860.281430@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> You can get reproduction tabs from Larry at Old Time Replications. I got some for a set I was repairing for someone about a year ago. Article: 334383 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg) Subject: Re: Zenith info from Riders needed Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 08:01:11 -0700 Message-ID: <23389-4469E937-142@storefull-3113.bay.webtv.net> References: On the 9-S-367 set I worked on the connections (terminals on the button assembly) had paint on them that matched the wires. Article: 334384 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: NudoCrusher Subject: Re: 8 old radios and tubes for sale- 1930-50 vintage Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 08:19:17 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147775736.630321.132660@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 16 May 2006 03:35:36 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >http://search.ebay This spammer, Charles M. Nudo, Jr., of Drums, PA, 66fourdoor on eBay, is STILL spamming. He also spams using accounts tied to: winchester1886@hotmail.com bb69@epix.net Many previous complaints have been filed, and many of his former accounts have been terminated for spam and other ToS violations. Article: 334385 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Theo" References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: japanese kit radio Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 16:10:23 GMT "Driving 006P9V with 45V which 5 these series is done.!" Don't ye jest lurve those Japanese - English translations! Article: 334386 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: japanese kit radio Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 11:37:05 -0500 Message-ID: <21360-4469FFB1-803@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: Once in a while,I email chat with a Japanese woman on the Island of Hokkaido,Japan.In January of 1964,I had an eight hour layover in Tokio,Japan and on the way back home from the land of the midnight cong a year later,we spent the night at a U.S.Air Force Base at Yokota,Japan.(I think it is called,Yakota) I own a bunch of made in Japan radios,but none of them are kit radios. cuhulin Article: 334387 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <446A048E.BEAFC3BC@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Rubber revitalizer? References: <1147480090.222846.96640@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7vh9g.201$mU6.45@trnddc07> <%Qj9g.44520$kW2.366162@wagner.videotron.net> <6f2c62tsphns6kml9kprmpnlt4057b5fug@4ax.com> <4467D589.2FDDE4D4@earthlink.net> <44681FAF.8F23CA24@earthlink.net> <27OdnUnPvJ9CZ_TZRVn-rA@comcast.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 16:57:53 GMT Mark Oppat wrote: > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message > > >>>" It was about six or seven dollars for two fluid ounces, but the place > I got it is high on everything" > > well, YOU would be high too with all those chemicals around! ;) > > sorry, had to say it.... > > Mark Oppat Into the corner, NOW! ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334388 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: Looking for.... Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 17:15:10 GMT I am looking for a set screw and the female threaded tiny square plate used in Grundig control knobs. It is for one of the outer big knobs for a 3035 w/3d USA. Does some one have a set they are wiling to part with? Gobs of Knobs perhaps? Thank you kindly, Paul. Article: 334389 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: OT: Hamvention Dayton OH - Rollcall Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 17:17:58 GMT Any one going this weekend? Paul Article: 334390 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Wayne Tiffany" Subject: Re: Free USNET news server access Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 12:20:38 -0500 Message-ID: References: <4469F967.4E7D3C66@earthlink.net> I have been on a quest for several years now to stay on a free news server, mostly for the challenge of it. I will find one, declare it functional, maybe even good, only to have it quit sometime in the future. My latest server is aioe.cjb.net and it has been great for some time now. So, if you are looking for one, try it. (It's kind of like, how long can you ride the subway on one ticket. Not illegal, not unethical, in this case, because the free servers are offered as just that - free for the asking.) WT "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:4469F967.4E7D3C66@earthlink.net... > YottaNews gives a free read only account for up to 1 GB per month of > news access. This is can be useful when you're having server problems. > http://www.yottanews.com:8080/freeaccount.php > > > There are more free servers I am investigating for those stuck with > Google Groups. > > news:alt.free.newsservers is a newsgroup about free Usenet access, but > it has a lot of cross posted crap and trolls. > > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 334391 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <446A1161.395BA086@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Free USNET news server access References: <4469F967.4E7D3C66@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 17:52:36 GMT Wayne Tiffany wrote: > > I have been on a quest for several years now to stay on a free news server, > mostly for the challenge of it. I will find one, declare it functional, > maybe even good, only to have it quit sometime in the future. My latest > server is aioe.cjb.net and it has been great for some time now. So, if you > are looking for one, try it. > > (It's kind of like, how long can you ride the subway on one ticket. Not > illegal, not unethical, in this case, because the free servers are offered > as just that - free for the asking.) I'm ok with the earthlink servers, but a number of people have complained that they can't use kill filters because they are stuck with Google Groups as their only access. I thought that I would check out some other options and post them so others can try them. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334392 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <446A129F.D8EBA9B9@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: 8 old radios and tubes for sale- 1930-50 vintage References: <1147775736.630321.132660@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 17:57:54 GMT CAINE wrote: > > 1000 NOS TUBES ?? that ain't me You both post from 216.222.237.155: NetRange: 216.222.224.0 - 216.222.255.255 CIDR: 216.222.224.0/19 NetName: EPIX-3BLK NetHandle: NET-216-222-224-0-1 Parent: NET-216-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Allocation NameServer: NS-1.EPIX.NET NameServer: NS-2.EPIX.NET Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE RegDate: 2000-10-09 Updated: 2001-05-08 so someone has hijacked your computer to post under your name, or you are lying. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334393 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 8 old radios and tubes for sale- 1930-50 vintage Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 11:10:06 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147775736.630321.132660@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147776189.658012.288600@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1147800265.897603.196930@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <446A129F.D8EBA9B9@earthlink.net> On Tue, 16 May 2006 17:57:54 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >CAINE wrote: >> >> 1000 NOS TUBES ?? that ain't me > >You both post from 216.222.237.155: > >NetRange: 216.222.224.0 - 216.222.255.255 >CIDR: 216.222.224.0/19 >NetName: EPIX-3BLK >NetHandle: NET-216-222-224-0-1 >Parent: NET-216-0-0-0-0 >NetType: Direct Allocation >NameServer: NS-1.EPIX.NET >NameServer: NS-2.EPIX.NET >Comment: ADDRESSES WITHIN THIS BLOCK ARE NON-PORTABLE >RegDate: 2000-10-09 >Updated: 2001-05-08 > > >so someone has hijacked your computer to post under your name, or you >are lying. Thanks for the tip! Looks like NudoFraud® Industries has tried to pull another fast one. Article: 334394 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: NudoKiller Subject: Re: 8 old radios and tubes for sale- 1930-50 vintage Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 11:38:18 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147775736.630321.132660@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147776189.658012.288600@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On Tue, 16 May 2006 07:25:00 -0400, Steve J wrote: >On 16 May 2006 03:43:09 -0700, "Peter Wieck" wrote: > >>And this cretin STILL will not put FA in his title. >> >>Jackass. >> >>With sincere apologies to the four-footed variety. >> >>Peter Wieck >>Wyncote, PA > > >On another forum there's a guy boasting he's got 1,000 NOS tubes for >sale. > >In the next message he's asking for instructions on how to operate his >tube tester. > >Let's jump on that one. Link? Mike thinks it's Nudo again. If so, he's trying to go "stealthy." Article: 334395 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <1147808864.832772.156090@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Looking for.... Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 20:00:50 GMT wrote in message news:1147808864.832772.156090@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > You actually have a Grundig 3035? If so, email me directly. I have one > that I can't find any info on.... > rgds, > Mark S. > I found a schematic on http://www.radiomuseum.org/. I also have some forum posts on different radios including the 3035. http://www.radiomuseum.org/forum/grundig_3035w3dusa_3035_w3_dusa.html The guys are very helpful. Worth the membership cost if you want to fix and restore a Grundig. Paul. I also have a few Vintage Radio links on http://www.ppinyot.com/HomePage.htm Good Luck. Article: 334396 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bob Weiss Subject: FYI: Sarnoff library lecture series Message-ID: <_mqag.3310$Go6.1504@trnddc04> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 20:12:42 GMT -----Original Message----- From: amagoun [mailto:amagoun@davidsarnoff.org] Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 8:57 AM To: amagoun@davidsarnoff.org Subject: Library Marks Sarnoff's Centenary with Lectures, Exhibits Dear friends of the David Sarnoff Library, Please accept my apologies for any cross-postings, and please forward as you see fit. If you do not wish to receive further emails of news from the Library, please let me know. With best wishes, Alex Magoun ### One hundred years ago, a fifteen-year-old immigrant started work as an office boy for the Marconi Wireless Telegraph Company of America, and the world changed because of it. This June, the David Sarnoff Library will honor its namesake with three illustrated lectures and two exhibits on Sarnoff's career and New Jersey innovations that changed the world. The lectures take place in Sarnoff Corporation's Auditorium on successive Tuesday evenings on the 6th, 13th, and 20th of June, at 7:30 pm. These programs are made possible by grants from the New Jersey Council for the Humanities, a state partner of the National Endowment for the Humanities, and Sarnoff Corporation. On June 6, Dr. Paul Israel, director of the Edison Papers at Rutgers University, will speak on "Looking Forward from Edison to RCA: Industrial Innovation in Central New Jersey." He will discuss the geographic, economic, and human aspects that made the Garden State such an attractive location for the world's greatest inventor and his research and development activities in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. On June 13th, Dr. Sheldon Hochheiser, former historian and chief archivist for AT&T, will speak on "Looking Down from Murray Hill: Six Innovations that Changed the World." He will explain why AT&T moved Bell Laboratories across the Hudson River from Manhattan, and discuss some of the innovations that emerged from them, from the transistor to satellite communications to digital networks. On June 20th, Dr. Alexander Magoun, executive director of the David Sarnoff Library, will speak on "David Sarnoff, RCA, and the Arc of the American Century." He will trace how Sarnoff's career parallels the rise and relative decline of his adopted country, from his arrival from Russia in 1900 to the demise of the company he defined, RCA, in 1986. "David Sarnoff is an icon of the American Dream," says Dr. Magoun. "He's Horatio Alger come to life, only we know that he accomplished far more than any of Alger's characters. The lectures and exhibits offer some context for why and how he and RCA's staff accomplished so much." David Sarnoff rose through the ranks of Marconi and its successor, the Radio Corporation of America (RCA), and championed the innovation of electronic technologies to fill the human need for communications, from broadcast radio to color television to technologies enabling the Internet. In the summer of 1941, he helped break ground for what became the David Sarnoff Research Center at the junction of Routes 1 and 571 in Princeton. There, RCA's scientists and engineers realized Sarnoff's vision for more compact and convenient communications and information technologies by inventing and innovating color television, liquid-crystal displays, video cameras, low-power and high-frequency transistors, computers and memory technologies, and electron microscopy. Dedicated to improving opportunities through the innovation of electronic communications, Sarnoff and the inventors of RCA made possible a world connected and informed by electronics. The exhibits-David Sarnoff and the Innovative Spirit and Six Innovations that Changed the World-offer visitors opportunities to understand and appreciate the electronic technologies that make modern life possible, and the people who brought them to life. Designed and produced by Venezia & Associates and Suite 6 Designs, they will remain on display for the rest of the year. The Library will be open from 6:30 until 9:30 so that guests may tour the exhibits before and after the lectures. ADA access is available to the lectures. Refreshments will be served. For more information call (609) 734-2636 or email questions@davidsarnoff.org. ### Alexander B. Magoun, Ph.D. Executive Director David Sarnoff Library 201 Washington Road, CN 5300 Princeton, NJ 08543-5300 609-734-2636 amagoun@davidsarnoff.org (f) 609-734-2339 www.davidsarnoff.org www.davidsarnoff.blogspot.com Article: 334397 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: push pull vs. single ended- opinions ? Message-ID: References: <1147706908.212228.193760@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147712421.446929.59660@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147715873.170367.296720@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1147741689.667236.95460@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <1147782606.911411.208040@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 20:12:54 GMT On 16 May 2006 05:30:06 -0700, "Peter Wieck" wrote: > It >is also both my opinion and my experience that more speakers are killed >by too little power than by too much, assuming good construction and >good condition. This is my experience, also. Especially with solid state amplifiers, which can quickly go into hard clipping and produce squarish waves. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 334398 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <4469F967.4E7D3C66@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Free USNET news server access Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 15:58:12 -0400 Sympatico just announced this week that they will no longer support newsgrops (i.e. they are shutting off the service) as of next month. Is the newsnet on the way out...? Article: 334399 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Henry Kolesnik" Subject: 3 Dayton Tickets for sale Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 20:13:02 GMT My plans to go to Dayton got snafued. I have 3 flea market space tickets, 3 entry tickets and one courtesy parking pass, spaces 3744, 3745 & 3746. They're near gate D at the north end. I paid $330.00 for the set and I'll take $220.00 by Paypal & I'll overnite them to your location of choice or you can pick them up in Tulsa, OK. tnx Hank WD5JFR Article: 334400 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Ungluing, then regluing, badly glued wood parts? References: <1147802795.573844.216180@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 16:39:11 -0400 If moderen yellow glue was used, water won't get it, most recent wood glues are fairly waterproof. You could possibly run a hack saw blade in between pieces. Ken Jim Strickland wrote: > Umm . . . how about a hypodermic syringe full of acetone injected under > the wood where it can attack the glue? > > Or try to steam it off with a clothing steamer? > > Just throwing out ideas I'd try; I've never used any of these, so > approach with caution. > > Phil Nelson wrote: > >>Oops, the photo is at: >> >>http://antiqueradio.org/art/temp/Philco46-120301.jpg >> >>Phil Nelson > > Article: 334401 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: NudoKiller Subject: 80 received with thanks Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 14:07:06 -0700 Message-ID: I just received a wonderfully clean Philco branded 80 half wave rectifier from Peter Wieck. It's quite nice...thanks! Article: 334402 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: NudoKiller Subject: Re: Free USNET news server access Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 14:12:38 -0700 Message-ID: References: <4469F967.4E7D3C66@earthlink.net> On Tue, 16 May 2006 15:58:12 -0400, "Buck Frobisher" wrote: >Sympatico just announced this week that they will no longer support >newsgrops (i.e. they are shutting off the service) as of next month. Is the >newsnet on the way out...? Some ISPs are chopping freebie Usenet access accounts to save money. Usenet access is still available from a large number of services, including the free one Mike was pointing out. AOHell did the same thing awhile back, pissed off because people were abandoning AOHell and going to their own newsreader clients. All that did was cause them to lose even more customers. Usenet is not "on the way out." If anything, it's unmanageably huge now. Certain idiots think that somehow, Google "owns Usenet" now. Nothing could be further than the truth, since "goo goo" only accounts for around 1% of legitimate Usenet traffic. Last look, it accounted for 14% of all Usenet spam, however. A look at the posting history for the criminally inclined idoit from Drums, PA will support that figure. Article: 334403 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 80 received with thanks Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 17:14:35 -0400 Message-ID: <126kg5sc35ufo87@corp.supernews.com> References: NudoKiller wrote: > I just received a wonderfully clean Philco branded 80 half wave > rectifier from Peter Wieck. It's quite nice...thanks! Does that mean that one side of it is bad? (Its a full wave rectifier). -ex Article: 334404 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith chassis swap question From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 21:16:56 GMT In article , blacksmith1@wowway.com says... > > >Would there be a problem with putting a Zenith 2004 chassis (better >cosmetics) from a radio with a 12 inch speaker #49-185 into a Walton >12-S-232 with an 8 inch speaker #49-183? They both use the same >chassis, just the speaker is a different size. >Blacksmith >wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom I take it you really mean a 1204 chassis rather than a 2004 one?.. if so... yes they are the same regardless if the chassis is >from a 12s265, 12s267, 12s249 or whatever the chairside number is.. or the 12s232 Walton ... the difference IS the speaker being an 8 incher 49-183 ... now if you happen to have a few spare 49-183 speakers setting around I could be interested... about $400 or so worth of interested... that speaker... other than finding one that is IN a 12s232 is your basic UnObtainium ... at least I never could find one of them.. See our Walton Radio Lineup here http://johnjeanantiqueradio.com/walton.htm the pictures are Four 9 toobers and one 12 toober.. 12 is last one on the left end.. John k9uwa Article: 334405 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Garry W Tidler" Subject: philco sign Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 17:19:30 -0400 Message-ID: <446a41e3$0$6151$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> I have a Philco Sign which may be a copy put out in 1976 , has pr 1976 in bottom left hand corner . It is metal on front with card board on back . About 12 inches wide X 15.5 tall It too big to scan on my scanner I have been thinking about taking it somewhere to get it scanned to make available for others who might want a copy . Has any one seen one before ? What years does it best represent ? See at alt.binaries.picture.radio -- Garry W Tidler WW9GT MEMBER : Tipton County Amateur Radio Club Morse Telegraph Club Indiana Historical Radio Society ARRL Article: 334406 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Must be a Debbie Harry Fan... Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 17:43:28 -0400 Message-ID: <126khs22nlt2f7f@corp.supernews.com> ....with such a Blondie of a radio. However, SHE is still good looking while the radio is pale and wan- http://cgi.ebay.com/ZENITH-LONG-DISTANCE-12-S-267-FLOOR-MODEL-TUBE-RADIO_W0QQitemZ9725908181 John H. Article: 334407 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Free USNET news server access Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 22:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4469F967.4E7D3C66@earthlink.net> In NudoKiller writes: >Some ISPs are chopping freebie Usenet access accounts to save money. The meta-problem is the low clue level of many ISP's. Usenet only costs them if they outsource the service. Any large customer of the backbone (like an ISP) can get all the feed they want for free. They just have to be smart enough to run their own spool. Ipso facto, it's best to buy service from an ISP that runs their own news service. For many reasons. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 334408 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "John Pelham" References: <126khs22nlt2f7f@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Must be a Debbie Harry Fan... Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 18:12:14 -0400 "Hagstar" wrote in message news:126khs22nlt2f7f@corp.supernews.com... > ....with such a Blondie of a radio. However, SHE is still good looking > while the radio is pale and wan- > http://cgi.ebay.com/ZENITH-LONG-DISTANCE-12-S-267-FLOOR-MODEL-TUBE-RADIO_W0QQitemZ9725908181 Wow. It's been brutally stripped. Probably looks similar to the way they looked at the factory, before the application of any toning lacquers. John Pelham Article: 334409 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: 1965 External Horn Crank Phonograph Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 18:46:02 -0400 Message-ID: <126klhc9oq8dod4@corp.supernews.com> WOW! I thought Standard Model A's were ALL almost a 100 years old, but they hung around another half century I guess. It must have been TOUGH selling wind up 78 rpm only phonos with 1/2 lb. tracking force in the age of the LP!!! Boy, the owner must have taken really good care of it too, what with having such an accurate knowledge of its age. http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-STANDARD-MODEL-A-VICTROLA-METAL-HORN-OAK_W0QQitemZ6628846633 John H. John H. Article: 334410 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: NudoKiller Subject: Re: 80 received with thanks Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 16:23:33 -0700 Message-ID: References: <126kg5sc35ufo87@corp.supernews.com> On Tue, 16 May 2006 17:14:35 -0400, - exray - wrote: >NudoKiller wrote: > >> I just received a wonderfully clean Philco branded 80 half wave >> rectifier from Peter Wieck. It's quite nice...thanks! > >Does that mean that one side of it is bad? (Its a full wave rectifier). LOL...I wasn't going to say anything abou that... Article: 334411 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: NudoKiller Subject: Re: 80 received with thanks Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 16:25:04 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147815464.368018.36760@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 16 May 2006 14:37:44 -0700, "toxcrusadr" wrote: >If I wasn't behaving myself, I'd write something like the following: >If the "half-wave rectifier" comment had been made by, say, Bob's >nemesis, Nudo, instead of Bob himself, there would be a storm of "This >idiot scammer can't even read a tube handbook," etc. etc. Ironic, >isn't it. But, I'm behaving myself. Oh who cares...I was just needling Peter. It tests well on both sides and is a visual 9. Article: 334412 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: NudoKiller Subject: Re: Free USNET news server access Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 16:28:01 -0700 Message-ID: <2tnk62lnfn8o0mebaauj3u15qku2lqispb@4ax.com> References: <4469F967.4E7D3C66@earthlink.net> On Tue, 16 May 2006 22:01:36 +0000 (UTC), Tim Mullen wrote: >In NudoKiller writes: > >>Some ISPs are chopping freebie Usenet access accounts to save money. > > The meta-problem is the low clue level of many ISP's. Usenet >only costs them if they outsource the service. Any large customer >of the backbone (like an ISP) can get all the feed they want for >free. They just have to be smart enough to run their own spool. > > Ipso facto, it's best to buy service from an ISP that runs their >own news service. For many reasons. That's correct, but as the owner of my small ISP says, "I haven't got time to properly administer NNTP." He's now basically a one man band, so he sources out his freebie NNTP service to Newsguy. Article: 334413 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: NudoKiller Subject: Re: Free USNET news server access Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 16:30:29 -0700 Message-ID: References: <4469F967.4E7D3C66@earthlink.net> On Tue, 16 May 2006 16:22:07 -0500, jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) wrote: >In article , "Buck Frobisher" > wrote: > >> Sympatico just announced this week that they will no longer support >> newsgrops (i.e. they are shutting off the service) as of next month. Is the >> newsnet on the way out...? > > >Yep, it's being replaced by all of the various "Forums". "Forums" are "Usenet for morons," as is "goo goo groopz." If the "forum" has no connectivity with Usenet, so much the better, as it keeps the legions of 'tards off of it. However, "goo goo groopz" has done the opposite and has infected Usenet with tons of troll/tard material. As has been said, "goo goo" only handled about 1% of the total world Usenet traffic, but is guilty for about 14% of the spam. Article: 334414 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <446A60DF.12149B65@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: OT: Free USNET news server access References: <4469F967.4E7D3C66@earthlink.net> <1147802827.894014.234830@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 23:31:50 GMT Steve Reeves wrote: > > >From: Michael A. Terrell - > >Date: Tues, May 16 2006 9:10 am > >YottaNews gives a free read only account for up to 1 GB per month of > >news access. This is can be useful when you're having server problems. > >http://www.yottanews.com:8080/freeaccount.php > > Free? yes read only! you can't post from it. > > quoted from their website: > > "You need to configure a username or password in your news client. You > will NOT be allowed to post articles from this account. Technical > support for free accounts can be obtained only by asking for help. in > the yottanews.support newsgroup. > > Your account details are being emailed to steve(@)stevenwreeves.com > Make sure your spam filters will allow email from > 'support@yottanews.com' > > The email was sent successfully." > > If there really is a free one...... > Regards, > Steven Reeves I said that it was read only, but it still lets you use kill filters. I am looking at several other free servers, as well. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334415 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Raymond Koonce Subject: Re: japanese kit radio References: <1147656585.645561.130290@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2LR9g.4669$UY6.2171@trnddc08> <1147675442.001496.274160@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 18:50:27 -0500 robert casey wrote: > Steven wrote: > >> That's because JAPANESE is hilarious, check out http://www.engrish.com/ for some great Japanese ads. or at least because it's so >> non-linear to English, like so many other languages. Languages like >> Japanese, eastern European languages and dialects are seemingly quite >> literal and don't lend themselves well to some of the fairly relaxed >> structures of general English. Cultural differences tend to make >> Western linguistic concepts more unnatural also. If you make light of >> the "funny" way foreigners piece our words together, remember that they >> are using the best words they know how in the way they can relate to. > > > One of my Chinese friends once commented that English has a much bigger > vocabulary compared to his home language. I mentioned that is because > we have pirated lots of foreign language words to use when english words > don't quite fit the needed meaning. > >> >> I still think that any company selling VCRs etc here should honestly >> let a North American draft it in English with North American readers in >> mind. > > > A friend of mine owns an advertising company, and he does a lot of work > with Japanese consumer electronics companies. A big part of the work is > to clean up the translations of ad copy to have it make sense to > Americans. More often he does a complete rewrite of the ads. Article: 334416 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "dale allen" Subject: Yellow Powder on Old Chassis Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 00:38:02 GMT I have an old chassis which has oxidized and left a yellowish powder. Seems like I remember that this is a poisonous substance. What should be used to remove/neutralize it? Thank you, Dale Article: 334417 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: 124 ohm balanced video: Answer Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 18:19:50 -0700 Message-ID: Well, looks like no one was about to hazard a guess about why commercial video at baseband was 124 ohms, so the great contest for Wieck's 80 is over. Besides, it's a near-mint tube, and I like it now! The reason is simple: What P-P voltage is 140 IRE (100 luminance, or "white" and a 40 synch pulse) units of video? 1 volt. What power is a sine wave at 1 volt P-P across 124 ohms? One milliwatt. It's quite as simple as that! Back in the old days, office video trunks were "toned out" using an HF oscillator set for various frequencies from 10 KHz to 5.5 MHz. The receive end of the trunk would be terminated in a 34A or 70B thermocouple power meter, and the associated A3A or A4 trunk amp/equalizer would be adjusted to provide unity gain and frequency response within .05 dB. Since 1 V P-P was 140 IRE of video it was decided back in the '40s that testing with a sine wave at a milliwatt into 124 ohms was good enough. Of course, this didn't show up nasty little problems like impedance bumps in the cable or a failed A3A or A4 that would mess with rise time and/or group delay, but 90% of the time, I would make a trunk "invisible" for patching and transport purposes. Later, sweep gens and scopes were used, and still later, when "A" scopes became common, it was common to just set up on "bars" with a terminated "A" scope on the receive end. However, old-timers would rail at this sort of expediency and still drag out the oscillator and power meter. Outside the Bell System in the broadcast industry, 124 ohm balanced was considered to be a headache by the 1970s, and large scale adoption of 75 ohm unbalanced became standard. By the time I got out of the biz in the '90s, everything for test gear, like Tek VM700s, had to be special ordered for 124 balanced. Article: 334418 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <1147802795.573844.216180@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <126kg93aecrr3cf@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Ungluing, then regluing, badly glued wood parts? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 01:25:07 GMT Try 100% alcohol inject in the areas, and then slowly pry off. If it doesn't work, try "Goof" ( they have a couple of different kinds) good luck Omer "- exray -" wrote in message news:126kg93aecrr3cf@corp.supernews.com... > Ken wrote: > >> If moderen yellow glue was used, water won't get it, most recent wood >> glues are fairly waterproof. You could possibly run a hack saw blade in >> between pieces. Ken > > IF it IS modern yellow glue then a heatgun should soften it enough for > separation. > > -Bill Article: 334419 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Uncle Pete" References: Subject: Re: 124 ohm balanced video: Answer Message-ID: Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 21:32:38 -0400 "DeserTBoB" wrote in message news:vbtk62t9711fji9p75c8u0i9dgh0hkvpq0@4ax.com... > > The reason is simple: What P-P voltage is 140 IRE (100 luminance, or > "white" and a 40 synch pulse) units of video? 1 volt. What power is > a sine wave at 1 volt P-P across 124 ohms? One milliwatt. It's quite > as simple as that! > I don't think so. Article: 334420 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Must be a Debbie Harry Fan... Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 01:37:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <126khs22nlt2f7f@corp.supernews.com> <1147828283.365035.140020@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1147828283.365035.140020@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Steven" writes: >Hagstar wrote: >> ....with such a Blondie of a radio. However, SHE is still good looking while >> the radio is pale and wan- >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ZENITH-LONG-DISTANCE-12-S-267-FLOOR-MODEL-TUBE-RADIO_W0QQitemZ9725908181 >Yaah, but all the scuttlebutt says she's harder to deal with than a >Zenith... No, she's not. Don't spread rumors about people. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 334421 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: 124 ohm balanced video: Answer References: <1147829443.360941.240610@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 02:02:11 GMT Steven wrote: > Can you also post under one name? You're one to talk. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 334422 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Barry" Subject: EA53 tube for HP410B VTVM? Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 21:33:03 -0500 Message-ID: Does anyone know where these might be available for a "reasonable" price? The cheapest I've found them for is $45 for a used "pull". I have a nearly new 2-01C in my ME26D/U but that won't fit in the probe in my HP410B. As I understand it, some 410B probes came with 2-01C diodes and some came with an EA53 probe and the two are not always interchangeable. Thanks, Barry - N4BUQ Article: 334423 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 124 ohm balanced video: Answer Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 19:36:18 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Tue, 16 May 2006 21:32:38 -0400, "Uncle Pete" wrote: > >"DeserTBoB" wrote in message >news:vbtk62t9711fji9p75c8u0i9dgh0hkvpq0@4ax.com... >> > The reason is simple: What P-P voltage is 140 IRE (100 luminance, or >> "white" and a 40 synch pulse) units of video? 1 volt. What power is >> a sine wave at 1 volt P-P across 124 ohms? One milliwatt. It's quite >> as simple as that! >> > >I don't think so. Do the math. Get back to me. Article: 334424 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 124 ohm balanced video: Answer Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 19:37:27 -0700 Message-ID: <523l62dankc04584agd9bcclnmii1ui9bj@4ax.com> References: On Tue, 16 May 2006 21:12:08 -0500, jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) wrote: >That may be the reason that they decided to call it 124 Ohms rather than >say 125 Ohms, but they wouldn't have done that if the impedance of most >all cable pairs at frequencies above a kHz or two wasn't approximately 125 >Ohms in the first place. If the impedance of a typical cable pair was say >900 Ohms I don't think they would have called it 124 Ohms. 124 Ohms was >just a convenient close number for a value that varied somewhat from one >cable type to another. The reason it was called "124 ohms" is that the terminating impedance of the circuit was exactly 124 ohms. Article: 334425 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Must be a Debbie Harry Fan... Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 23:11:13 -0400 Message-ID: <126l52ipaatf91c@corp.supernews.com> References: <126khs22nlt2f7f@corp.supernews.com> <1147828283.365035.140020@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147830787.642258.306340@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147834902.776554.48010@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Bret Ludwig" wrote in message news:1147834902.776554.48010@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > ..No one in > the US remembers who she is. They aren't big here. And YOU must be like twenty something- yeah, they aren't big like the Ramones aren't big. Your use of the present tense is bizarre. Debbie Harry was, is, and will be. John H. Article: 334426 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 124 ohm balanced video: Answer Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 20:11:59 -0700 Message-ID: <325l62tmouf5qit5ganq3mjfk2ae0ar8f3@4ax.com> References: On Tue, 16 May 2006 21:32:38 -0400, "Uncle Pete" wrote: > >"DeserTBoB" wrote in message >news:vbtk62t9711fji9p75c8u0i9dgh0hkvpq0@4ax.com... >> > The reason is simple: What P-P voltage is 140 IRE (100 luminance, or >> "white" and a 40 synch pulse) units of video? 1 volt. What power is >> a sine wave at 1 volt P-P across 124 ohms? One milliwatt. It's quite >> as simple as that! >> > >I don't think so. No, you're right...it was .5 VP-P, not 1 V. It's been a long time! Article: 334427 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: Free USNET news server access Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 23:32:50 -0400 Message-ID: <4cvjr4F119h8gU1@individual.net> References: <4469F967.4E7D3C66@earthlink.net> Tim Mullen wrote: > In NudoKiller > writes: > >>Some ISPs are chopping freebie Usenet access accounts to save money. > > The meta-problem is the low clue level of many ISP's. Usenet > only costs them if they outsource the service. Any large customer > of the backbone (like an ISP) can get all the feed they want for > free. true > They just have to be smart enough to run their own spool. this is where they fall down. if you have a decent newsfeed & carry the binaries groups, you will be constantly hitting your bandwidth limit because your nntp server populating & propagating all of the binaries groups. i have a freind who owns a internet service & decided to provide usenet access. he showed me a graph of all the bandwidth that was being used within a 24 hour period, it was shocking, he was hitting maximum bandwidth with no let up. he has two T1 feeds. he decided to outsource the usenet access the following month. -- The Shadow Knows Article: 334428 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <126khs22nlt2f7f@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Must be a Debbie Harry Fan... Message-ID: <7Wwag.152363$oL.10785@attbi_s71> Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 03:39:47 GMT Hi! I'm undecided about the finish removal. I've seen far, far more horrible jobs done. However, one thing is for sure. I do like that "beehive" form on the back of the speaker. Does that do anything interesting/at all? William Article: 334430 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: boys radio question Date: Tue, 16 May 2006 22:24:18 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147720095.714924.98960@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Mon, 15 May 2006 12:08:15 -0700, wagil wrote: > I need help for an article I'm preparing about 2 transitor 'Boys' > radios from Japan in the mid 1950. Specifically I need help locating > the following: > > 1. a pic of a girls radio (the companion to the boys radio models > 2. Actual date of the customs restriction for Japanese radios with more > than 2 transistors. > 3. Actual date(s) 2 transistor boys radios were made > 4. An advertisement for these radios. > > Any help/clues/info appreciated. > > Wayne G. Michael Brian Schiffer in "The Portable Radio in American Life", ISBN 0-8165-1259-0 and 0-8165-1284-1, page 211 says the Japanese adopted export quotas for radios with three or more transistors in 1960. Japanese companies got around these restrictions by making one and two transistor radios, multi-band radios, tube portables, and by shipping products to a third country on the way to the U.S. Minimum prices set by the Japanese government were ignored and repealed in 1961. He refers to one and two transistor radios as "toy" radios rather then "boy's" radios. He doesn't mention them further and has no pictures or ads. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 334431 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Free USNET news server access Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 05:55:17 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4469F967.4E7D3C66@earthlink.net> <4cvjr4F119h8gU1@individual.net> In <4cvjr4F119h8gU1@individual.net> Radio Rambler writes: >i have a freind who owns a internet service & decided to provide usenet >access. he showed me a graph of all the bandwidth that was being used >within a 24 hour period, it was shocking, he was hitting maximum bandwidth >with no let up. he has two T1 feeds. That'll do it. :) A T1 ain't what it used to be. This is why you colo your servers. And for customer feeds, even a small outfit with a few thousands subscribers should be looking at a T3, preferably multiple pipes, preferably multihomed. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 334432 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Must be a Debbie Harry Fan... Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 05:56:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <126khs22nlt2f7f@corp.supernews.com> <7Wwag.152363$oL.10785@attbi_s71> In <7Wwag.152363$oL.10785@attbi_s71> "William R. Walsh" writes: [Zenith console] >However, one thing is for sure. I do like that "beehive" form on the back of >the speaker. Does that do anything interesting/at all? That's Zenith's "Acoustic Adapter". Controls bass response. There was a sub-thread on them here recently. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 334433 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Free USNET news server access Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 00:27:13 -0700 Message-ID: References: <4469F967.4E7D3C66@earthlink.net> <4cvjr4F119h8gU1@individual.net> On Wed, 17 May 2006 05:55:17 +0000 (UTC), Tim Mullen wrote: > That'll do it. :) A T1 ain't what it used to be. Got THAT right. I remember in the '70s when a T1E or T1F, riding under the FDM carrier baseband on microwave radio, was THE biggest full digital data "pipe" you could get cross country. Now, people have that in their homes, sometimes better. My WISP offers about twice a T1 in capacity via wireless to residential customers. DSL's lucky to give half a T1 on the transmit, though. > And for customer feeds, even a small outfit with >a few thousands subscribers should be looking at a T3, preferably multiple >pipes, preferably multihomed. Even T3s are getting clogged. My ISP is very small, and a single T3 is hardly up to the task anymore. Wasn't long ago that 7 T3s made up a lightwave "pipe" on the biggest transcon fiber system extant, the WECO FT Series G single mode. Now, that's sort of "old time.". Article: 334434 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1147868434.285403.270450@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Voice O Music cartridge Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 08:40:41 -0400 "RJSoftware" wrote in message news:1147868434.285403.270450@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hello all; > > I'm looking for a cartridge to a VM400 (Voice of Music model 400). > > This is a 1947 model that belongs inside Stromberg-Carlson radio+phono > combo. > > http://www.picpuppy.com/Strombeg-Carlson/1.jpg > http://www.picpuppy.com/Strombeg-Carlson/2.jpg > http://www.picpuppy.com/Strombeg-Carlson/3.jpg > http://www.picpuppy.com/Strombeg-Carlson/4.jpg Links don't work. Syl Article: 334435 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Stinson" Subject: Attn: Morale Radio Guys Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 13:13:53 GMT Crosley Navy REP radio available (not mine). This is one very cool morale set, with a "magic eye." You can see a photo by searching for REP under completed listings, you know where. Owner says it's working. I think he'd take 80-100 for it. I'd pay that if I didn't already have one in my collection. His name is Jeff and his number is 419-221-3555. I don't know him; just passing it along since these don't show up often. 73 Dave S. Article: 334436 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Voice O Music cartridge Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 09:14:26 -0400 Message-ID: <126m8dknnl5lu8c@corp.supernews.com> References: <1147868434.285403.270450@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Syl wrote: > "RJSoftware" wrote in message >>http://www.picpuppy.com/Strombeg-Carlson/1.jpg >>http://www.picpuppy.com/Strombeg-Carlson/2.jpg >>http://www.picpuppy.com/Strombeg-Carlson/3.jpg >>http://www.picpuppy.com/Strombeg-Carlson/4.jpg > > > Links don't work. > > Syl > > Add the 'r' to "Strombeg" -ex Article: 334437 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: 80 received with thanks Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 08:50:35 -0400 "NudoKiller" wrote in message news:pkfk625dbem8p1ka36cv03n4hhp897gn68@4ax.com... >I just received a wonderfully clean Philco branded 80 half wave > rectifier from Peter Wieck. It's quite nice...thanks! Do you know that using somebody else's emails in your message's header (spoofing) is a federal offense ? And that anon remailers are required to track every messages using their originating IP addresses since 9/11? Syl Article: 334438 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1147868434.285403.270450@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Voice O Music cartridge Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 08:59:19 -0400 "RJSoftware" wrote in message news:1147868434.285403.270450@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hello all; > > I'm looking for a cartridge to a VM400 (Voice of Music model 400). Go here and drop an email to Gary Stork. If he can't help you with the cartridge, come back to me. Syl Article: 334439 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 80 received with thanks Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 06:43:01 -0700 Message-ID: <5u9m62p0srqmo5r0nlol4pleglim7jp50k@4ax.com> References: <1147815464.368018.36760@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147867094.466686.131400@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 17 May 2006 04:58:15 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >I see you noticed that...I feel sorry for Peter, because Bob has taken >my address and put it on myspace with a fake picture, twice- and he's >plastered it all over Google and Usenet, along with his usual >defamation and libel "Libel" is only libel if it cannot be proven to be true. In the case of Charles M. Nudo, Jr., aka 66fourdoor, such is not the case, and the evidence I have will pass any legal challenge. >So now Peter will get the same treatment...eventually...just watch and see. Not at all. He's a man of his word. You're not. >Proceed at your own risk, fellas. One look at his posting profile, >it's obvious this guy is a nutcase on pychotropics. Noodles didn't even know what the word "psychotropics" meant until I opined that he was off of his. Another Nudo fantasy exposed. Article: 334440 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 80 received with thanks Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 06:44:31 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147815464.368018.36760@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147867168.272710.156730@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 17 May 2006 04:59:28 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >http://groups.google.com/group/alt.collecting.8-track-tapes?lnk=li > >take a look for yourself, if you think he's ever going to stop- he >trashed the 8track group, totally A fine example of "projection," where a paranoid delusional tries to project his failings and mental cognitive problems upon others, as if to make it someone else's problem. The record, as a couple in here already know, clearly says that Charlie Nudo did that deed. Article: 334441 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: kludge@panix.com (Scott Dorsey) Subject: Re: EA53 tube for HP410B VTVM? Date: 17 May 2006 09:48:26 -0400 Message-ID: References: Barry wrote: >Does anyone know where these might be available for a "reasonable" price? >The cheapest I've found them for is $45 for a used "pull". I have a nearly >new 2-01C in my ME26D/U but that won't fit in the probe in my HP410B. As I >understand it, some 410B probes came with 2-01C diodes and some came with an >EA53 probe and the two are not always interchangeable. Have you considered a silicon diode and a filament resistor? I know it isn't original, but it will work just fine. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Article: 334442 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 124 ohm balanced video: Answer Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 06:48:26 -0700 Message-ID: References: <523l62dankc04584agd9bcclnmii1ui9bj@4ax.com> On Wed, 17 May 2006 07:01:15 -0400, "Mark Robinson" wrote: >Hi Bob, > >I think you got it correct the first time. The rms value for a 1 V P-P sin >wave is: 1V/(2 * Sqrt(2)) = .35355Vrms This yields a R for 1 milliwatt of >exactly 125 ohms. Thanks, I KNEW that was it, but somehow, I got it fouled up. Since 140 IRE is 1 V P-P, one milliwatt was used to approximate the amplitude of a video signal. "Uncle Pete," being the typical troll, got me off on a siding. Article: 334443 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 80 received with thanks Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 06:51:06 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Wed, 17 May 2006 08:50:35 -0400, "Syl" wrote: > >"NudoKiller" wrote in message >news:pkfk625dbem8p1ka36cv03n4hhp897gn68@4ax.com... >>I just received a wonderfully clean Philco branded 80 half wave >> rectifier from Peter Wieck. It's quite nice...thanks! > >Do you know that using somebody else's emails in your message's header >(spoofing) >is a federal offense ? Tell that to Nudo, who posted hundreds of posts using my name. >And that anon remailers are required to track every >messages >using their originating IP addresses since 9/11? I never use an anon. Your punctuation problems are eerily similar to Nudo's. Article: 334444 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Charles M. Nudo, Jr." Subject: Re: 8 old radios and tubes for sale- 1930-50 vintage Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 07:21:57 -0700 Message-ID: <57cm625od60efq3nddl6cmk9snd4tb8hbs@4ax.com> References: <1147775736.630321.132660@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147776189.658012.288600@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1147800651.813682.7950@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147874620.120255.48220@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 17 May 2006 07:03:40 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >why would I use a header that is weeded out by outlook express blockers >? ...and there you have it. Charles M. Nudo, Jr., of Drums, PA, spamming on Usenet and refusing to use proper headers so as to evade kill filters. That alone's good enough to get that particular MAPI account pulled off of "goo goo groups," his spam vehicle of choice. Article: 334445 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: 124 ohm balanced video: Answer Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 07:16:01 -0700 Message-ID: <24872-446B3021-427@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: Hey Uncle Pete, now _you're_ a troll. Ha ha :-) Bill(oc) Article: 334446 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 80 received with thanks Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 08:01:53 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147815464.368018.36760@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147865716.616783.22530@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147875698.750773.233200@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 17 May 2006 07:21:38 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=OWYeOxYAAADl1Zed_XZW3SoS9yucUvHTux8a9Hv8z7DEdOQDEb554A > >that DeserTBob has stolen my home email address, that my family uses >here- see for yourself What about the HUNDREDS of posts you made using my name? What about the MANY posts you made with my home address, a map to my house, and a sat pic of same? Quit crying. You're reaping the rewards of being a Class A fuckwad. >think twice, Peter- we may have our differences, you and I- but this >guy you're trading charades with, is gonna burn you Peter Wieck is a man of his word. Perhaps we may disagree on this or that, but he is trustworthy, as proven directly to me, and has a good reputation with others. You, on the other hand, are a relentless petty criminal and spammer with a universal reputation as a fraudster and con artist going back to at least 2000. To try to hide this fact, you cancelled over 250 posts on "goo goo groopz," thinking that your bad reputation would somehow simply be washed away. Sorry, but it hasn't, and I have the posts to prove it. You're getting what you deserve. Shut the hell up and take it. > >he'll stop at nothing, he's a Godless POS Look at Noodles wail when he gets a dose of his own medicine. Oddly amusing, really. Article: 334447 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 80 received with thanks Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 08:03:32 -0700 Message-ID: <2oem621rp1vbdd28l0on0o3p0v4p6hgdgt@4ax.com> References: <1147874882.703680.300050@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 17 May 2006 07:08:02 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >same poster also started (2) fake myspace accounts, with that same name The "fake" MySpace account was established by one Charles M. Nudo, Jr. of Drums, PA, with sexually provacative posts. It was taken down when reported as a fake and I responded with the faker's real name, address and phone number. Article: 334448 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: "DeserTBob" stealing email addresses and identities on Google Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 08:04:59 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147875768.086681.203890@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 17 May 2006 07:22:48 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=OWYeOxYAAADl1Zed_XZW3SoS9yucUvHTux8a9Hv8z7DEdOQDEb554A > >be advised that this "DeserTBob" person from California just stold this >email addy, and is impersonating someone from Pa. SQUEAL! SQUEAL! Listen to Noodles oink. Article: 334449 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Janssen Subject: Re: 124 ohm balanced video: Answer References: Message-ID: <87Hag.1145$oa1.230@news02.roc.ny> Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 15:16:20 GMT DeserTBoB wrote: >Well, looks like no one was about to hazard a guess about why >commercial video at baseband was 124 ohms, so the great contest for >Wieck's 80 is over. Besides, it's a near-mint tube, and I like it >now! > >The reason is simple: What P-P voltage is 140 IRE (100 luminance, or >"white" and a 40 synch pulse) units of video? 1 volt. What power is >a sine wave at 1 volt P-P across 124 ohms? One milliwatt. It's quite >as simple as that! > >Back in the old days, office video trunks were "toned out" using an HF >oscillator set for various frequencies from 10 KHz to 5.5 MHz. The >receive end of the trunk would be terminated in a 34A or 70B >thermocouple power meter, and the associated A3A or A4 trunk >amp/equalizer would be adjusted to provide unity gain and frequency >response within .05 dB. Since 1 V P-P was 140 IRE of video it was >decided back in the '40s that testing with a sine wave at a milliwatt >into 124 ohms was good enough. Of course, this didn't show up nasty >little problems like impedance bumps in the cable or a failed A3A or >A4 that would mess with rise time and/or group delay, but 90% of the >time, I would make a trunk "invisible" for patching and transport >purposes. Later, sweep gens and scopes were used, and still later, >when "A" scopes became common, it was common to just set up on "bars" >with a terminated "A" scope on the receive end. However, old-timers >would rail at this sort of expediency and still drag out the >oscillator and power meter. > >Outside the Bell System in the broadcast industry, 124 ohm balanced >was considered to be a headache by the 1970s, and large scale adoption >of 75 ohm unbalanced became standard. By the time I got out of the >biz in the '90s, everything for test gear, like Tek VM700s, had to be >special ordered for 124 balanced. > > The telephone companies had to contend with long cable runs and the TV broadcasters usually had short cable runs. On long runs you had frequent problems with ground potential difference. Using 75 Ohm coax was a hassle getting rid of the 60 Hz interference.. If they had to use coax then they used Video Transformers to break the ground currents. That is why the telephone companies used balanced cable. Bill K7NOM Article: 334450 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 124 ohm balanced video: Answer Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 08:38:25 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87Hag.1145$oa1.230@news02.roc.ny> On Wed, 17 May 2006 15:16:20 GMT, Bill Janssen wrote: >The telephone companies had to contend with long cable runs and the TV >broadcasters usually >had short cable runs. On long runs you had frequent problems with ground >potential difference. >Using 75 Ohm coax was a hassle getting rid of the 60 Hz interference.. >If they >had to use coax then they used Video Transformers to break the ground >currents. > >That is why the telephone companies used balanced cable. > >Bill K7NOM Not really. AT&T Long Lines, until the '90s, had transcontinental runs of coaxial cable to carry FDM multiplexed traffic. "Hum" interference was handled by proper grounding techniques. Until the 4 GHz microwave system was fully developed in the 1960s, most intercity video traffic carried by AT&T went via the coaxes on the protection tube. The problem there wasn't AC hum, but rather, group delay. The adoption of NTSC color in the early '60s knocked coax out of the box for long haul video transmission, not because of any "hum" problems, but because the group delay issues with the tube powered transformer coupled repeaters would make mincemeat out of the baseband video signal's color phase relationship. Group delay equalizers were provided at receive terminals, but due to the nature of the line repeaters, a group delay lineup would have to be performed before every feed due to normal aging and cable temperature variations. Every coaxial cable had "grounding beds" at each repeater hut or manhole. These beds would be an area about 20' square, under which several electrode plates were buried and connected to the lead sheath of the cable on either side of the repeater. In the case of local video loops, however, balanced was preferred because of close proximity to underground AC power lines and the absence of large scale grounding beds. However, there were grounding rods at every manhole, and thus ground potential wasn't necessarily the problem. This sort of accumen was lost on the cable TV industry, which never could figure out equalization, basic grounding techiques, or other basic tools of the trade, even to this day. It should be noted that, to reach various microwave sites, the video, once brought to the phone company's TVOC via balanced pair, would go out via a wire line entrace link to the transmitting site via 75 ohm coax similar to that used in the transcontinental coaxes, without any repeaters for a distance of up to four miles. Article: 334451 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: You've heard of Ames, now get ready for Dunbar!! Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 10:32:00 -0700 Message-ID: References: <3c9f62p8l5rgegbiqcog2rckuntdunnj0m@4ax.com> <64bi621qsc9nptgmtqlfvlpog29m08h0t1@4ax.com> <1147885474.825734.157110@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 17 May 2006 10:04:34 -0700, "Peter Wieck" wrote: >Bakelite is *not* turquoise. Bakelite comes in shades of brown or >black, otherwise it is painted. The turquoise model of this thing has a white thermoplastic shell, not Bakelite, as shown on this example. It may have been a year or so later than this Bakelite thing, which would be about the time that new thermoplastics were making the rounds in consumer products. I'm pretty sure it's not catalin, either...the gloss is too high. The legs and the swivel feature are just plain silly. WHAT were they thinking? Of course, this was the era of the '59 Cadillac, too. Could you imagine being a GM mid manager in late '58 and seeing the first '59 Cad roll off the line? I know my mind would've been screaming, "Oh...my....GOD! What have we DONE?" I think GM brass thought the same thing when they saw the first Pontiac Aztek roll off the line too...which they quickly swept under the rug with little fanfare. For reasons unknown, however, the Aztek has become a "ghetto" favorite. I can't believe someone bid $70 on this, but then again, I never could believe those Eames-designed Welltron "spaceball" 8 track/AM/FM things going for $150 in so-so shape, either. Article: 334452 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 80 received with thanks Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 10:32:47 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147874882.703680.300050@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <2oem621rp1vbdd28l0on0o3p0v4p6hgdgt@4ax.com> <1147881134.761945.65040@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147885647.365000.47170@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1147886312.063858.101190@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> On 17 May 2006 10:18:32 -0700, "Peter Wieck" wrote: >He answered an open question where the 80 was a prize for 'getting it'. >He was reasonably accurate if not exact. Coulda been you. He'd have to be smart enough. Article: 334453 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: EA53 tube for HP410B VTVM? Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 11:09:03 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Wed, 17 May 2006 13:30:10 -0400, Chuck Harris wrote: >Actually, no it won't. > >The tube in the AC probe is very special. It extends the frequency response >from 20Hz to 750MHz, and up to 300VAC from 20Hz to 100MHz. You won't be able >to do that with any single solid state component. > >-Chuck Harris Chuck's correct on this. I used 410Bs for years, and what he says is absolutely true on this probe. The tube is a "must have" in order to restore full functionality to this meter. Messed up probes are the #1 reason than many otherwise good 410Bs get junked, which is a shame. It's really a very versatile, accurate instrument when functioning properly. Article: 334454 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Free USNET news server access Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 18:27:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4469F967.4E7D3C66@earthlink.net> <4cvjr4F119h8gU1@individual.net> [bandwidth] Last time I talked to Level3, several years ago, they owned an OC-192 >from New York to London. That's a 10Gbs link. Probably old hat by now. :) It's amazing how we chew thru the stuff. Then again, an uncompressed HDTV feed is 1.5Gbs. Coupla those will fill up an OC right and proper. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 334455 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Must be a Debbie Harry Fan... Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 18:34:35 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <126khs22nlt2f7f@corp.supernews.com> <7Wwag.152363$oL.10785@attbi_s71> <1147870081.706137.31590@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1147870081.706137.31590@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" writes: >It does, as Tim states, control bass. I am about to fabricate one for >the 10S153 that I am in the process of restoring. It is papier-mache >painted gold. I have an original as a model. >It is on a steel-rod run right through the center of the speaker >(field-coil) controlled by a bakelite wing-nut, altogether a wonderful >Rube Goldberg device that must have been great fun for the Zenith >enginners to design and execute. Whodathunkit? Interesting. They must have used different mounting for different models -- my 12S265 has four steel rods, forming an upright square, mounted to the speaker baffle board. These run through black rubber grommets on the acoustic adapter bell itself. On the back of the bell is a black plastic knob that servers simply as a grip for pulling the bell forward and back. I just luv Rube Goldberg stuff (although Zentith's acoustic adapter really does work to modify bass response). I tell folks I'm an afficianado of dumb ideas. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 334456 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Must be a Debbie Harry Fan... Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 18:35:46 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <126khs22nlt2f7f@corp.supernews.com> <1147875023.000933.237140@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1147875023.000933.237140@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "CAINE" writes: >how bout some vintage analog tape of that broad ? "Broad"?!! How Frank Sinatra of you. Watch _Videodrome_. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 334457 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1147884733.354451.105360@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147889918.701270.245730@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 1U6 sub for 1L6 in a 600-Series Zenith T/O Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 13:50:53 -0500 Message-ID: <446b6312$0$24207$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "m82a1pa" wrote in message news:1147889918.701270.245730@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > What wattage resistor, Peter? What does the paralleled resistor do? > Anything. A quarter watt will do. It accounts for the fact that 1U6 filament only draws half the power of 1L6. Since the filaments in a T/O are in series it's important to keep the draw at each socket equal. paul *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** Article: 334458 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: EA53 tube for HP410B VTVM? Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 17:31:47 -0400 Message-ID: References: Does anyone know where these might be available for a "reasonable" price? **Is FREE reasonable? I have a take-out from an old engineering study of years ago. Should I send it to your BUQ address? -Pete O. AI2V Article: 334459 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" Subject: [Near OT] Strange request Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 21:47:10 GMT A friend asked me to give him some radios for an exposition in a village near me. He pointed on some of my sets, and has been attracted by an italian tombstone from the 1937. That model is Marelli 'Alcor' that has the M cutted in the speaker grill, it would be referring to the M of Marelli, actually it was dedicated to Mussolini, the leader of Fascism. The idea was to build up a device connected to the phono input that would play the declaration of war of the '40, about 5 minutes playing, better if looped, starting when radio is switched on. I thought about a modern EEPROM device, but seems to be long to order, build up etc.etc. Any idea? Would an mp3 player be a good solution (also about sound quality)? a picture of the same model here: http://spazioinwind.libero.it/radioantica/alcorlusso.htm Thanks, -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 334460 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Uncle Pete" Subject: Test Ignore Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 17:48:58 -0400 Straightening my email accounts. Article: 334461 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete Bertini" Subject: Last Test... Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 17:51:02 -0400 HONEST Article: 334462 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: ATTENTION PA CONSOLE RESCUE PERSONNEL Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 18:12:28 -0400 Message-ID: <126n7uesr46eme0@corp.supernews.com> Great Caesar's ghost! Love the look, all you need is some brass curtain rod. I've never seen a Pilot console before- http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Floor-Model-Pilot-Tube-Radio_W0QQitemZ6630086317 John H. Article: 334463 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete Bertini" References: <1147884733.354451.105360@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147904052.634000.146040@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 1U6 sub for 1L6 in a 600-Series Zenith T/O Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 18:28:27 -0400 wrote in message news:1147904052.634000.146040@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > I got a whole sh*tload of tubes form a dungeon of a basement many,many > years ago and I am sure that I have at least 1 NIB 1L6 in the lot. I > also have a nice 8G005YT, so just in case, I will probably hold onto > it. > The 8G uses locktals. Pete Article: 334464 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: doug holverson Subject: fader pot for delco in studebaker Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 17:30:52 -0500 I'm looking for a fader potentiometer for a late '50s Studebaker Delco radio. One of the ones where the knob and the pot are in one piece and has the three pins that slide into the front of the radio. Thanks! DGH Article: 334465 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: [Near OT] Strange request Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 22:46:38 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "Daniele" writes: >The idea was to build up a device >connected to the phono input that would >play the declaration of war of the '40, >about 5 minutes playing, better if looped, >starting when radio is switched on. >I thought about a modern EEPROM device, >but seems to be long to order, build up etc.etc. >Any idea? Would an mp3 player be a good >solution (also about sound quality)? I recently developed a system (and am still building several more) for an artist's installation that required music to be played upon a switch closing. The music had to start at the beginning each time, and since the project is battery powered it was important to shut the player off completely. No "pause". I wound up using one of the cheapie Creative Labs MP3 players. The problem with any of these devices is that they power on with a soft switch. You hold down the button to turn it on, and hold down the same button to turn it off! How do you make sure it doesn't get out of sync? I discovered that if you set the player the way you want it -- volume, repeat one track, etc. You can solder the switch shut and simply remove power. When power (the battery) is restored by the switch closure -- this could be the on/off switch on your radio -- the MP3 player will take a second or two to boot, then start playing at the beginning of the track. Turn the switch off and the player (obviously) goes dead. Works like a charm. The key is to set the MP3 player up the way you want: repeat track or tracks, rewind it to the beginning of the track, then do a "clean" power off the normal way. Remove the battery. Open up the player and solder the MP3 player's on/off switch shut. Now when you put the battery back in it'll start up where it was at the last clean power down. Of course, instead of putting the battery back in you'll want to solder a pair of wires to the battery contacts. These will go to the radio's on/off switch and an external 1.5V battery. Don't touch any controls after this!!! It screws up the player. That was O.K. for my project because the player is installed inside the base of the art piece, where no one can get to it. Beware these things are power hungry! I'm now using a 14.8V LiON rechargeable pack (I need the voltage for an on-board amplifier), stepped-down with a Texas Instruments PT6216P wide input range DC-DC switching converter. Since you won't need battery power you can use an external 1.5VDC power supply. Good luck! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 334466 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Janssen Subject: Re: 124 ohm balanced video: Answer References: <87Hag.1145$oa1.230@news02.roc.ny> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 23:42:43 GMT This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020008070206000108050604 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DeserTBoB wrote: >On Wed, 17 May 2006 15:16:20 GMT, Bill Janssen wrote: > > > >>The telephone companies had to contend with long cable runs and the TV >>broadcasters usually >>had short cable runs. On long runs you had frequent problems with ground >>potential difference. >>Using 75 Ohm coax was a hassle getting rid of the 60 Hz interference.. >>If they >>had to use coax then they used Video Transformers to break the ground >>currents. >> >>That is why the telephone companies used balanced cable. >> >>Bill K7NOM >> >> > >Not really. AT&T Long Lines, until the '90s, had transcontinental >runs of coaxial cable to carry FDM multiplexed traffic. "Hum" >interference was handled by proper grounding techniques. Until the 4 >GHz microwave system was fully developed in the 1960s, most intercity >video traffic carried by AT&T went via the coaxes on the protection >tube. The problem there wasn't AC hum, but rather, group delay. The >adoption of NTSC color in the early '60s knocked coax out of the box >for long haul video transmission, not because of any "hum" problems, >but because the group delay issues with the tube powered transformer >coupled repeaters would make mincemeat out of the baseband video >signal's color phase relationship. Group delay equalizers were >provided at receive terminals, but due to the nature of the line >repeaters, a group delay lineup would have to be performed before >every feed due to normal aging and cable temperature variations. > > > The transcontinental cable system was "L" carrier which used frequencies of something like 50 KHz up to 8 or so MHz (the first ones went to 3.5 or so MHz) >Every coaxial cable had "grounding beds" at each repeater hut or >manhole. These beds would be an area about 20' square, under which >several electrode plates were buried and connected to the lead sheath >of the cable on either side of the repeater. > > The grounding beds were because the end "power" stations put + 1000 or more power on one end of the cable and -1000 or more power on the other end of the cable. The repeaters were powered by the current from those + and - power supplies. >In the case of local video loops, however, balanced was preferred >because of close proximity to underground AC power lines and the >absence of large scale grounding beds. However, there were grounding >rods at every manhole, and thus ground potential wasn't necessarily >the problem. This sort of accumen was lost on the cable TV industry, >which never could figure out equalization, basic grounding techiques, >or other basic tools of the trade, even to this day. It should be >noted that, to reach various microwave sites, the video, once brought >to the phone company's TVOC via balanced pair, would go out via a wire >line entrace link to the transmitting site via 75 ohm coax similar to >that used in the transcontinental coaxes, without any repeaters for a >distance of up to four miles. > > This wasn't base band video. Bill K7NOM --------------020008070206000108050604 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DeserTBoB wrote: 
On Wed, 17 May 2006 15:16:20 GMT, Bill Janssen <billj@ieee.org> wrote:

  
The telephone companies had to contend with long cable runs and the TV 
broadcasters usually
had short cable runs. On long runs you had frequent problems with ground 
potential difference.
Using 75 Ohm coax was a hassle getting rid of the 60 Hz interference.. 
If they
had to use coax then they used Video Transformers to break the ground 
currents.

That is why the telephone companies used balanced cable.

Bill K7NOM <snip>
    

Not really.  AT&T Long Lines, until the '90s, had transcontinental
runs of coaxial cable to carry FDM multiplexed traffic.  "Hum"
interference was handled by proper grounding techniques.  Until the 4
GHz microwave system was fully developed in the 1960s, most intercity
video traffic carried by AT&T went via the coaxes on the protection
tube.  The problem there wasn't AC hum, but rather, group delay.  The
adoption of NTSC color in the early '60s knocked coax out of the box
for long haul video transmission, not because of any "hum" problems,
but because the group delay issues with the tube powered transformer
coupled repeaters would make mincemeat out of the baseband video
signal's color phase relationship.  Group delay equalizers were
provided at receive terminals, but due to the nature of the line
repeaters, a group delay lineup would have to be performed before
every feed due to normal aging and cable temperature variations.
The transcontinental cable system was "L" carrier which used frequencies of something like
50 KHz up to 8 or so MHz (the first ones went to 3.5 or so MHz)
Every coaxial cable had "grounding beds" at each repeater hut or
manhole.  These beds would be an area about 20' square, under which
several electrode plates were buried and connected to the lead sheath
of the cable on either side of the repeater.
The grounding beds were because the end "power" stations put + 1000 or more power on one end of
the cable and  -1000 or more power on the other end of the cable. The repeaters were powered
by the current from those + and - power supplies.
In the case of local video loops, however, balanced was preferred
because of close proximity to underground AC power lines and the
absence of large scale grounding beds.  However, there were grounding
rods at every manhole, and thus ground potential wasn't necessarily
the problem.  This sort of accumen was lost on the cable TV industry,
which never could figure out equalization, basic grounding techiques,
or other basic tools of the trade, even to this day.  It should be
noted that, to reach various microwave sites, the video, once brought
to the phone company's TVOC via balanced pair, would go out via a wire
line entrace link to the transmitting site via 75 ohm coax similar to
that used in the transcontinental coaxes, without any repeaters for a
distance of up to four miles.
This wasn't base band video.

Bill K7NOM
--------------020008070206000108050604-- Article: 334467 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Sears Silvertone FM - AM Radio Phonograph Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 19:06:17 -0500 Message-ID: <24025-446BBA79-956@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Model 8067 Early American.At the Goodwill store this afternoon.Only $15.00.It dates back to 1978,the radio works great with great sound.I tried all of the knobs and everything.The phonograph sounded like it turned on,but the turn table wouldn't turn around.Maybe it needs a new drive belt or whatever.I would have bought it,but I just dont have room for it.The cabinet is in very good condition. cuhulin Article: 334468 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: "DeserTBob" stealing email addresses and identities on Google Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 19:08:52 -0500 Message-ID: <24025-446BBB14-957@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1147909273.708617.41680@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Dont feel like the Lone Ranger,I have been impersonated too.Is that flattery,or what? cuhulin Article: 334469 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "DALE Allen" References: <1147826923.144234.307480@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Yellow Powder on Old Chassis Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 00:23:14 GMT Thanks Peter, I'll be careful. Dale "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1147826923.144234.307480@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > That would be cadmium oxide (Cadmium Yellow to the artistic types). A > toxic heavy-metal oxide. Do not ingest it, get it on your skin, breath > it in or wash it into a septic system or tile field or any watershed > area. Wear rubber gloves, clean it with soap and an ammonia based > solvent, save the rags used and dispose of them as toxic waste (old > paint, for example). You have a cadmium-plated chassis, common until > the early 80s at a guess. When you are done cleaning, a coat of spray > lacquer over the entire chassis would not go amiss. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 334470 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: fader pot for delco in studebaker Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 00:34:32 GMT Are you the same fellow who posted this a few days ago on the Studebaker newsgroup? Yes, these pots are around, but not necessarily on a correct knob for your car. If you can't find this at a Studebaker parts place, your best bet is probably to go through the Hemmings listings and see if you can find one in a parts car. Good luck -- you're certainly looking for a rare one! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "doug holverson" wrote in message news:xuNag.29436$fG3.14681@dukeread09... > I'm looking for a fader potentiometer for a late '50s Studebaker > Delco radio. One of the ones where the knob and the pot are in one > piece and has the three pins that slide into the front of the radio. > > Thanks! > > DGH Article: 334471 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1147826923.144234.307480@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Yellow Powder on Old Chassis Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 00:49:45 GMT Its good to know these things, Im sure Ive run into it and I guess my choice of Windex might have been just lucky to clean it up, but Ill be alot of folks just dont know. Ill sure to be more careful now, as I am with the Asbestos when it turns up. Keith "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1147826923.144234.307480@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > That would be cadmium oxide (Cadmium Yellow to the artistic types). A > toxic heavy-metal oxide. Do not ingest it, get it on your skin, breath > it in or wash it into a septic system or tile field or any watershed > area. Wear rubber gloves, clean it with soap and an ammonia based > solvent, save the rags used and dispose of them as toxic waste (old > paint, for example). You have a cadmium-plated chassis, common until > the early 80s at a guess. When you are done cleaning, a coat of spray > lacquer over the entire chassis would not go amiss. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 334472 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" Subject: Zenith console is alive!, now for the cabinet... Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 18:28:43 -0700 Message-ID: <446bcdcf$0$96978$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> These Zenith console radios (9S367 in this case) just sound amazing! Today I finished the electrical restoration and now I need to consider what to do with the cabinet. Here's the situation; the cabinet is in overall decent condition with the usual nicks and scrapes. The top does have some water damage to the veneer (wavy), but the worst part is that the right side of the cabinet also has slight water damage. The wood doesn't appear to be affected, but the varnish is milky and starting to flake off in places. It certainly is a candidate to be refinished. Cabinet work is not my forte', electronics is, and I'm more likely to botch the cabinet restoration *if* I try to bring it back to original varnished (brown) finish. While poking around on the net, I discovered that this model was also available in ebony (black). I've never seen a black Zenith, but this model is sort of art deco, and might look really good in a high gloss black. Besides, this is a type of finsih I'm less likely to screw up. What do you guys think? It'll be a keeper, and I hope to display it prominently in my collection. Steve p.s.-thanks to the guys that helped me out with the belt...I used O-ring material, and it works fine Article: 334473 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Phil Witt Subject: Re: 124 ohm balanced video: Answer Message-ID: <68mn62tq55r6adhi0e2j0c9v0ailtm6pfc@4ax.com> References: <87Hag.1145$oa1.230@news02.roc.ny> Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 21:25:23 -0500 On Wed, 17 May 2006 08:38:25 -0700, DeserTBoB wrote: >In the case of local video loops, however, balanced was preferred >because of close proximity to underground AC power lines and the >absence of large scale grounding beds. However, there were grounding >rods at every manhole, and thus ground potential wasn't necessarily >the problem. This sort of accumen was lost on the cable TV industry, >which never could figure out equalization, basic grounding techiques, >or other basic tools of the trade, even to this day. It should be >noted that, to reach various microwave sites, the video, once brought >to the phone company's TVOC via balanced pair, would go out via a wire >line entrace link to the transmitting site via 75 ohm coax similar to >that used in the transcontinental coaxes, without any repeaters for a >distance of up to four miles. FWIW In our fair city, at least, 124 ohm balanced video remained that way >from the TOC to the various recipients, mainly TV stations. Typical distances were 5 miles. The original receiving equipment was a WE A2A tube-type receiver-equalizer-amplifier, which was later replaced by GE solid state equipment, a vast improvement. The most remarkable improvement in TV network service to broadcasters ocurred when telco dropped the 5kc local audio loops and began multiplexing the audio and video. The difference was incredible. Article: 334474 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: 80 received with thanks Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 11:37:45 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1147815464.368018.36760@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147867094.466686.131400@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147867800.506649.70470@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1147917624.653231.70320@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "CAINE" wrote in message news:1147917624.653231.70320@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > yet another coded, holier-than-thou Wieck post... > > maybe I'll drive over, and you can tell me in person, Peter > > we'll see how tough you are then Threats are not welcome, mor tolerated, in this newsgroup. I suggest that an apology is in order, lest you end up losing your internet access. All it takes is for a couple people to complain to your ISP. Take this under advisement, I doubt that some others would even give you the warning. Article: 334475 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: 1U6 sub for 1L6 in a 600-Series Zenith T/O Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 23:02:53 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147884733.354451.105360@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > Confirming posts that go back to 2003 and beyond in this venue, if a > 1U6 is substituted for a 1L6 (with the addition of ~50-60 ohms of > resistance across the filament pins), the radio remains just as > sensitive and reaches just as high as with a new 1L6. I tried out one > of the sleeve of 1U6s I snagged in Kutztown in the 600L that I also > snagged in Kutztown. No apparent affect on the alignment or > dial-pointer accuracy either. I did this with a butchered 600-series TO I acquired and resurrected a few years ago....It is the most perfect 1L6 replacement in the world for TOs; alas the mod is quite a bit more difficult with some of the TO clones like the RCA and Hallicrafters models, due to their strange "towering" of the RF sections. How strangely coincidental that you should find a 600L...I bagged one at a flea market here in Santa Cruz last weekend for $10.00. It is the first reasonably priced leather-clad TO I have run across in at least 20 years. > > Just please be sure to make a note and/or mark the chassis so that > others in the future may understand that the Mod has been done and why. > On the aforementioned butchered TO, I actually made a scan of the tube-layout sticker inside the radio and photoshopped a "U" in place of the "L" on the 1L6 portion of the sticker. Looks very neat. When I die and the radio is sold, it will probably show up on ebay with a heading that looks something like "SUPER RARE ZENITH TRANS-OCEANIC RADIO-L@@K!" :-) -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 334476 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Attn: Morale Radio Guys Date: Wed, 17 May 2006 23:12:55 -0700 Message-ID: References: David Stinson wrote: > Crosley Navy REP radio available (not mine). > This is one very cool morale set, with a "magic eye." > You can see a photo by searching for REP under > completed listings, you know where. > Owner says it's working. I think he'd take 80-100 for it. > I'd pay that if I didn't already have one in my collection. > His name is Jeff and his number is 419-221-3555. > I don't know him; just passing it along since these don't show up often. > The one on eBay has been relisted here: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9728243663 Pretty cool set, and somewhat scarce. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 334477 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <3c9f62p8l5rgegbiqcog2rckuntdunnj0m@4ax.com> <64bi621qsc9nptgmtqlfvlpog29m08h0t1@4ax.com> <1147884439.498121.53240@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: You've heard of Ames, now get ready for Dunbar!! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 08:03:31 GMT So will the buyer if he uses it on good furniture. Note the missing tips on the legs. Seems the seller with all his encyclopedic knowledge neither noticed or looked for tips for them. Ray "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:1147884439.498121.53240@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I can't believe some "soft head" bid on it! > > I'd personally prefer the model without the silly legs. > > -- > Stephanie > Article: 334478 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith console is alive!, now for the cabinet... From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <446bcdcf$0$96978$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 12:22:40 GMT In article <446bcdcf$0$96978$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net>, zarco@sonic.net says... > > >What do you guys think? It'll be a keeper, and I hope to >display it prominently in my collection. > > Steve >p.s.-thanks to the guys that helped me out with the belt...I >used O-ring material, and it works fine > > NOt Varnish.... Lacquers .. Clear Lacquer and Toned Lacquers are what is on your 9s367 Zenith .. and the Black Lacquer finish would be harder to do than the repair of whats there now... a little paint stripper and spritz it onto the surface and rub it back off quickly with 4 ought.. 0000 steel wool... idea is to remove the old finish.. and not mess up the wood.. then shoot it with some fresh clear lacquer... John Article: 334479 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: 1U6 sub for 1L6 in a 600-Series Zenith T/O Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 21:38:17 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1147884733.354451.105360@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147953979.487952.96760@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1147953979.487952.96760@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Scott: > > Interesting! See below. > > I had a blinding flash of inspiration last night when considering the > same Mod for my Halli: "What if the resistor went outboard-and-above?" > A little filing of the appropriate tube-pins for a workable surface, a > very fine-wire 1/4-watt resistor tacked-soldered & secured to the side > of the tube with a tiny drop of super-glue... and an instant drop-in > replacement, no under-chassis mod needed. It will even fit inside most > tube shields as the resistor sits at the curve of the base of the tube. > > > And, what's more, it worked! > > I did try putting it in and pulling it out a couple of times to make > sure that the solder held. Mostly, tube pins on miniatures do not > solder well, but the filing seemed to do the trick. > > Note that the socket clamps are open in one direction. Try to solder > the resistor connection on that side so as not to overstress (force) > the clamps. Why not just use a SocketSaver® and solder the resistor across those pins on the SocketSaver®? Surely a radio such as these is worth the cost of the saver, and the beauty of it is you can move it from radio to radio. Article: 334480 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 1930s under the dash auto radios Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 08:55:15 -0400 Message-ID: <126orlp539dfbb6@corp.supernews.com> References: <1147953790.248804.231790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Dave wrote: > Ok, I'm hoping someone out there can help me with this. For months I > have been searching all over the internet for some images of any brand > 1930's under the dash car radios. I am curious to see the inside of > these things. Also some information on them would be nice but not > absolutely necessary. I may or may not have posted this query before > using a different e-mail address. > > Thanks in advance > > Dave > In the 30s many car radios weren't much different than their wood cabinet counterparts with the exception of the power supply and the fact that they packed them very tight. You can see many typical diagrams and even some installation information in the Rider's archives at http://www.nostalgiaair.com Look under some of the popular brands like Philco, Delco, Galvin. In the early-mid 30s most radios had a separate control head with volume and tuning controls that would be mounted on the steering column or under the dash. Speaker was mounted where convenient. The radio itself would be mounted on the firewall, etc. Later (late 30s-40s), complete underdash units became more the norm. Gary Tayman here is our resident car radio guy - maybe he has some good resources for details and photos. In the meantime I have posted some photos of a (very) early 30s Philco TRF set. http://antiqueradios.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=Philco GL, Bill Article: 334481 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: 1U6 sub for 1L6 in a 600-Series Zenith T/O Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 22:10:18 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1147884733.354451.105360@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147953979.487952.96760@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1147956753.592867.165390@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1147956753.592867.165390@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Brenda Ann: > > There is a school-of-thought (with some evidence to support it) that > extending the distance of the tube from the socket will alter the > alignment somewhat. To the extent that I have notice that Bill Turner's > 1LA6 adaptor will have such an effect on *SOME* (but not all) T/Os this > idea has credence. However, the question in that case remains as to > whether it is the 1LA6 or the adaptor socket that actually has the > effect. > > Then, some T/O clones will not accept a socket-saver. > > That is why I went the route of soldering directly to the 1U6... Also > that I can be a stubborn SOB. Ah yes, I had forgotten that most of the clones use shielded sockets... Article: 334482 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 1930s under the dash auto radios Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 09:31:56 -0400 Message-ID: <126otqelo3o0q4c@corp.supernews.com> References: <1147953790.248804.231790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <126orlp539dfbb6@corp.supernews.com> <1147958679.414626.69340@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Dave wrote: > Thanks for the information and pictures. The first link didn't work for > me. Just one question though. In Gary's photo, why is there a > keyhole in the radio? If thats the ignition key, shouldn't it be > elsewhere and not on the radio? > Oops, sri. It should be dot org instead of dot com. The key is for the radio itself. When you have a radio that would drain the battery in short order you don't want the kids messing with it and leaving it turned on :) -Bill Article: 334483 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: 1930s under the dash auto radios Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 08:50:06 -0500 Message-ID: <12370-446C7B8E-360@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <126orlp539dfbb6@corp.supernews.com> Radios in vehicles back in those years and on into the 1950's were optional equipment,so were heaters.I like to watch those old,old movies on the AMC and TWC and Fox movie tv channels.Every once in a while,I get to see some old,old cars that have radios in them.I remember a Three Stooges movie and they were driving a panel van truck.One of Stooges reached behind him on the wall of that van and he switched on a radio that was mounted in wall of that van. cuhulin Article: 334484 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Hutchinson" References: <1147786195.080197.136190@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1147830938.299582.257050@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1147867039.181252.146480@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Northland Antique Radio Club RadioDaze event this weekend Message-ID: <3c%ag.72988$Fs1.7847@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:06:55 GMT Head east on US 12, then work your way north to MN 55 (your last chance is I-494), then go to the Comfort Inn west parking lot at I-494 & MN 55 in Plymouth. There will be signs posted as you approach. Bill Terry S wrote in message news:1147867039.181252.146480@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > About an hour east of Litchfield. > > Terry > Article: 334485 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Seabreeze Phono (was Ronette Cartridge pin connections) References: <1146368145.598451.67720@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1147395490.361074.256530@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2hT8g.725981$084.637762@attbi_s22> <1147426922.754531.275610@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147960115.109269.110810@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:11:00 GMT Well, if all else fails, you can email it to me, and I'll post it on my web site and post a link back here. Jeff Gerry wrote: > Okay, I was able to peel the schematic for the Seabreeze Phono (Model > S-310) off of the bottom of the cabinet. I've enlarged it, and scanned > it as a PDF. Where can I post it so that y'all can see it and tell me > which capacitors and stuff to replace? > > Gerry > gerryu21220@yahoo.com > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 334486 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <446C84ED.C5368038@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Seabreeze Phono (was Ronette Cartridge pin connections) References: <1146368145.598451.67720@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:31:03 GMT Gerry wrote: > > Okay, I was able to peel the schematic for the Seabreeze Phono (Model > S-310) off of the bottom of the cabinet. I've enlarged it, and scanned > it as a PDF. Where can I post it so that y'all can see it and tell me > which capacitors and stuff to replace? > > Gerry > gerryu21220@yahoo.com I posted it for you on A.B.S.E since you can't do it with Google Groups. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334487 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: 1U6 sub for 1L6 in a 600-Series Zenith T/O Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 10:38:20 -0500 Message-ID: <6571-446C94EC-933@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: That married Irish woman wayyyyyy over yonder across the big pond.She bought a new Grundig 28 inch flat screen tv set.(she said it has Nicam stereo,,, [[whatever that is?]] ) I asked her if she and her hubby got a hernia unloading that big tv set from the trunk {boot} of her Ford 2000 Focus car.She said no,she told Richard {Richard is her hubby} to cut it out of the box first. cuhulin Article: 334488 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: mark@NOSPAMmarktitterington.com (Mark T) Subject: HELPME! GE Console knobs needed [RIMARK] Message-ID: <446cc1dc.593082327@news.east.cox.net> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 18:54:02 GMT Jeesh I've been looking everywhere for a set of four knobs for a GE console I'm fixing up for a guy. Neither he or I care that the set is exactly original at this point. He just wants it to be functional. I only have one of the original knobs, you can see it at: http://www.hamnutz.com/w1eof/knobGE/ I purchased a set of Philco console knobs but although they were for a "D" shaft, the "D" is too large. So I'm not quite sure what to call them, but these are for a small-D-shaft. If I can't get the proper D-shaft knobs maybe I can get a set-screw knob to work OK? Thanks to all! Mark in RI Article: 334489 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Heriberto" Subject: PHILCO 39-720 SCHEMATICS? Message-ID: <446cc8bc_1@x-privat.org> Date: 18 May 2006 21:19:24 +0200 Hi All: Anyone have a Philco 39-710 Schematics? Any help for me? Thanks in advance Heriberto LU6DBU Inviato da X-Privat.Org - Registrazione gratuita http://www.x-privat.org/join.php Article: 334490 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Northland Antique Radio Club RadioDaze event this weekend Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:12:14 -0500 Message-ID: <24026-446CC70E-224@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1147975031.895466.113180@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I am not ever going up North again(Martinsville,Indiana 1947,,, Bozeman,Montana 1956,,, Salina,Kansas 1957.Scott Air Force Base,Illinois 1963 (ARADCOM,U.S.Army,Nike Hercules Missiles) Put a radio thingy within ten miles of me,and I might go and if it's raining,I might not go.If it isn't convenient for me on my terms,,, it isn't worth it anyway. cuhulin Article: 334491 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <446CD556.BAC7BA00@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Seabreeze Phono (was Ronette Cartridge pin connections) References: <1146368145.598451.67720@e56g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 20:14:20 GMT Gerry wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > > I posted it for you on A.B.S.E since you can't do it with Google > > Groups. > > > > Thanks Mike. I do have direct access to USENET newsgroups. I use > Google Groups because it emails me updates throughout the day. What is > A.B.S.E.? alt.binaries.s...e...??? > > Gerry I usually post schematics to news:alt.binaries.schematics.electronics but it was posted to: news:alt.binaries.pictures.radio where people from this group post images. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 334492 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jerry Franks Subject: Re: Zenith 9S367....need belt, tabs References: <1147776352.985860.281430@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <23388-4469E823-655@storefull-3113.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <5M4bg.123069$eR6.91142@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 20:26:41 GMT Thes folks have lots of round belts from 1/8 " diameter on up. Just ordered 2 for a small lathe. http://www.sdp-si.com/eStore/CoverPg/Belts.htm Article: 334493 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: TV fans, 257 Accurate Instrument Co. tester Message-ID: <_%5bg.77449$gE.36860@dukeread06> Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 17:51:50 -0400 I found a setup book for one of these testers tucked in a I-177 tester. If you have one of these tv tube testers without the book this one is free for the asking. wklw at cox dot net. Ken Article: 334494 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gregory Morrow" References: <24025-446BBA79-956@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Sears Silvertone FM - AM Radio Phonograph Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 22:07:39 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > I agree the cabinetry can be inticing, but $15 is probably about what it's > worth in the collector market, I hate to say. As has been discussed before, > the electronics are nothing to write home about, and the competition -- > component stereos by Marantz, Fisher, and others -- is much more desirable. > If you like it and have a place for it, be my guest; however it's by no > means a collectible item, and probably won't be for some time to come. > Maybe "cuhulin" could use it to house his WebTeeVee unit... -- Best Greg > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > wrote in message > news:24025-446BBA79-956@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net... > > Model 8067 Early American.At the Goodwill store this afternoon.Only > > $15.00.It dates back to 1978,the radio works great with great sound.I > > tried all of the knobs and everything.The phonograph sounded like it > > turned on,but the turn table wouldn't turn around.Maybe it needs a new > > drive belt or whatever.I would have bought it,but I just dont have room > > for it.The cabinet is in very good condition. > > cuhulin > > > > Article: 334495 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: REMOVErghines1@THISturbousaSTUFF.com (Richard_G_ Hines) Subject: Re: TV fans, 257 Accurate Instrument Co. tester Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 22:44:35 GMT Message-ID: <446cf7e5.6523005@news.turbousa.com> References: <_%5bg.77449$gE.36860@dukeread06> Hi Ken, Sent email for the manual. Richard -------------- On Thu, 18 May 2006 17:51:50 -0400, Ken wrote: >I found a setup book for one of these testers tucked in a I-177 tester. >If you have one of these tv tube testers without the book this one is >free for the asking. wklw at cox dot net. Ken > Article: 334496 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sofa Slug Subject: Re: fader pot for delco in studebaker References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 23:27:13 GMT doug holverson wrote: > I'm looking for a fader potentiometer for a late '50s Studebaker > Delco radio. One of the ones where the knob and the pot are in one > piece and has the three pins that slide into the front of the radio. > > Thanks! > > DGH Would any of these help? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9703426735 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8067425767 http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4640306552 - S Article: 334497 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: Radio Attic is loaded in Froogle Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 20:54:46 -0400 Message-ID: <126q5qpch02ol8c@corp.supernews.com> References: <1147968792.143443.13690@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1147973130.771539.302080@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> RadioGary wrote: > Cool. Oh by the way, do you still allow your members to spam other's > EMAIL boxes with advertisements? That's annoying. > Yeah, like he has control over that. You might want to make a distinction between the bad guys and the good guys, RadioGary. -ex Article: 334498 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: Pioneers of Primetime References: <1147914709.168766.162710@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147915467.240493.189930@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147962557.920678.266350@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 01:05:56 GMT Mike Koste wrote: > (The only thing that gives it a score of 9 instead of 10 is that the > producers felt compelled to include Steve Allen in the interviews.) Not sure what you have against Steve Allen (although you are certainly entitled to your opinion). First, I believe he was the very first host of the 'Tonight' show--and a lot of today's night time show hosts are *still* using some of Allen's shticks almost 50 years later--so it's hard to see how the producers could have left him out. Additionally, Allen was quite a multi-talented guy, including the authoring of several books. My favorite of his was titled "The Dumbing of America' (or similar). A very perceptive book, and IMHO, the conditions he described have only worsened in the last 15 years or so since he wrote it. Article: 334499 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1147968792.143443.13690@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1147973130.771539.302080@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Radio Attic is loaded in Froogle Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 20:33:49 -0400 "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1147973130.771539.302080@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Cool. Oh by the way, do you still allow your members to spam other's > EMAIL boxes with advertisements? That's annoying. Cheap shot.... >From how many members of radioattic and how many times have you been victim of SPAM ? If you're talking about "generationgap", it came from eBay BTW... Syl Article: 334500 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Phil Witt Subject: Kadette Jewel question Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 20:25:13 -0500 My wife dragged in a Kadette Jewel from a barn today. It appears all original and has a plain brown Bakelite case. The (I have seen it called Tenite) speaker grill is somewhat warped. I seems reasonably pliant and I wonder what the best way to flatten it might be. An iron comes to mind right away. Any recommendations? Thanks, Phil Article: 334501 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete Bertini" References: <1147884733.354451.105360@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 1U6 sub for 1L6 in a 600-Series Zenith T/O Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 21:29:49 -0400 I have two Guinea pig 600 TOs that need restoration. I've been considering a few mods that would allow either a 1U6 or 1L6 to be plugged in without requiring any changes to the radio. I suspect that carefully picking two silicon diodes, with the correct characteristics, wired in series paralleling the filament terminals on the socket, might allow the maximum filament voltage to be held at 1.4 volts due to the forward conduction voltage of the diode junctions. That would allow either tube to work in the socket, and provide some degree of catastrophic protection for the 1L6 in case a tube is pulled and reinserted with the radio running, etc. It's something I've been meaning to try for sometime, and I think it could be made to work. Pete Article: 334502 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Pioneers of Primetime Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 01:30:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1147914709.168766.162710@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147915467.240493.189930@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147962557.920678.266350@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In Carter-K8VT writes: >I believe he was the very first host of the 'Tonight' show >Additionally, Allen was quite a multi-talented guy, including the >authoring of several books. My favorite of his was titled "The Dumbing >of America' (or similar). The irony! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 334503 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: fader pot for delco in studebaker Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 01:49:00 GMT Unfortunately that's not it. This is a volume/tone control for a Delco radio. What he needs is a fader. Some Delco radios were built in such a way that a fader control could be added easily by the dealer if the customer wanted a rear speaker. If you remove the tuning knob, and the dummy knob behind it, you will see a three-holed connector, with two of the holes jumpered together. Remove the jumper, install a fader-knob to replace the dummy, and connect the rear speaker to the harness. You're done. The fader-knob is a knob with a built-in rheostat. There are three pins, which go into the socket when the knob is installed. Although Delco fader-knobs are fairly common, finding one that matches the other Studebaker knobs may be a challenge. I suppose you could try and graft a fader from some other car onto the dummy knob, but it fits together with one big rivet that the shaft goes through -- and I'm not sure how the wiper is fastened to the knob -- it's up inside. I think you'd have to be an experienced machinist to even attempt it. Even then, does the fader look exactly like the dummy? I know some Oldsmobiles have fader-knobs with "front-rear" written on them, while the dummys are blank. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Sofa Slug" wrote in message news:lp7bg.10294$fb2.8726@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > doug holverson wrote: >> I'm looking for a fader potentiometer for a late '50s Studebaker >> Delco radio. One of the ones where the knob and the pot are in one >> piece and has the three pins that slide into the front of the radio. >> >> Thanks! >> >> DGH > > Would any of these help? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9703426735 > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8067425767 > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4640306552 > > - S Article: 334504 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: 1930s under the dash auto radios Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 03:08:07 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1147953790.248804.231790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In "Gary Tayman" writes: >By the way, I'm not quite that Buick with the Transoceanic. Not being a car owner, I was unaware of Buick being an adjective. Ya gotta clue me in on this one! :) "Solid, but mundane"? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 334505 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: HELPME! GE Console knobs needed [RIMARK] From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <446cc1dc.593082327@news.east.cox.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 03:23:00 GMT In article <446cc1dc.593082327@news.east.cox.net>, mark@NOSPAMmarktitterington.com says... > > > >I only have one of the original knobs, you can see it at: >http://www.hamnutz.com/w1eof/knobGE/ > >Thanks to all! > >Mark in RI Well Mark .. if you tell the guy how big those squares are on that graph paper and give him the URL above to look at the knob ... I bet that Dave Frush will have a set of correct GE knobs for you... contact Dave at parts2many at aol daought com John k9uwa Article: 334506 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: Subject: Re: Attn: Morale Radio Guys Message-ID: Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 20:32:34 -0700 I have one that I picked up on eBay. Its a great radio!!! bob in phx "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:e4h3a101n24@news2.newsguy.com... > David Stinson wrote: > >> Crosley Navy REP radio available (not mine). >> This is one very cool morale set, with a "magic eye." >> You can see a photo by searching for REP under >> completed listings, you know where. >> Owner says it's working. I think he'd take 80-100 for it. >> I'd pay that if I didn't already have one in my collection. >> His name is Jeff and his number is 419-221-3555. >> I don't know him; just passing it along since these don't show up often. >> > The one on eBay has been relisted here: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9728243663 > > Pretty cool set, and somewhat scarce. > > -Scott > > -- > DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! > Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: > http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm > (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email > unusable) > > Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD > and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: > > > http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 334507 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Northland Antique Radio Club RadioDaze event this weekend Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 23:06:46 -0500 Message-ID: <6571-446D4456-1017@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <1148010042.379203.105150@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I live in a ''bog'' I wouldn't trade for anywhere else on Earth. Save These Dates,my snail mail letter says. Hotel: Radisson Hotel Opryland,Nashville,Tennessee.Wednesday,July 11-Sunday,July 15,2007. cuhulin Article: 334508 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: EA53 tube for HP410B VTVM? Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 21:03:06 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147970242.140866.47190@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <3vcp62hg14prok9pdrgq3trfr2vpaoap6d@4ax.com> On 18 May 2006 09:37:22 -0700, "Barry" wrote: > >Pete_O wrote: >> Does anyone know where these might be available for a "reasonable" price? >> >> **Is FREE reasonable? I have a take-out from an old engineering study of >> years ago. Should I send it to your BUQ address? -Pete O. AI2V > >Sure thing! I'm good in the callbook. > >Thanks!!! > >Barry - N4BUQ Glad to see another 410B is going back into service. Loved these old meters...they could do just about anything! Article: 334509 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 8 old radios and tubes for sale- 1930-50 vintage Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 21:07:04 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147775736.630321.132660@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <7PmdnY18O5CudvHZRVn-tQ@giganews.com> <0brp62deq2m6sq0g5c2gobei6t3cjpr2jl@4ax.com> On Thu, 18 May 2006 17:48:06 -0400, "Ken Doyle" wrote: >Those radios wouldn't be worth what you're asking even if they were properly >gone over by someone that knew what the hell they were doing. > >So there you bitter old queen! > >Ken D. >;-) ROFLMAO! Noodles gets "outed," as he should be. Article: 334510 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 80 received with thanks Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 21:07:04 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147815464.368018.36760@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147867094.466686.131400@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147867800.506649.70470@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1147917624.653231.70320@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147948750.212461.195020@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147950123.764706.27530@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1147952099.939580.49710@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 18 May 2006 04:35:00 -0700, "Peter Wieck" wrote: >Essentially, you believe that everyone is like you. In reality, few >individuals crawl on their bellies throughout life. So, those who have >a life and behave as such will remain a constant surprise and mystery >to you. Oh, he has a life, alright...that of a petty thief and rag picker. Article: 334511 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 8 old radios and tubes for sale- 1930-50 vintage Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 21:07:04 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147775736.630321.132660@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147950176.209193.114620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <0euo62567f8jpfnvrqeuhaknoitp5rv7hg@4ax.com> On 18 May 2006 04:02:56 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >yeh, just like that Fisher 500c...right, Graham ? That was a piece of junk, too. Article: 334512 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 8 old radios and tubes for sale- 1930-50 vintage Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 21:07:04 -0700 Message-ID: <8pgq62dmqvgvtimphkosf9cugvhmrij08k@4ax.com> References: <1147775736.630321.132660@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147950282.714060.304390@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 18 May 2006 04:04:42 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >yeh, just like that Fisher 500c, right, Graham ? > >Just can't compare to those $20 Ebay consoles you post about, that get >one bid... Note the forged email below...typical Chuckie Noodles: > >----- Original Message ----- >Sent: Sunday, May 14, 2006 4:25 PM >Subject: Re: Audiogon listing: Fisher 500c receiver- > >> Charlie, >> >> I've been listening to the FM on the Fisher for the better part of the >> weekend now. >> It pulls in more stations than my Sony ST-S555ES solid-state tuner, >> and with greater signal strength. >> >> The unit sounds wonderful for a 40+ year old piece of gear. >> >> It was a pleasure to do business with you. Article: 334513 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 8 old radios and tubes for sale- 1930-50 vintage Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 21:07:04 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1147775736.630321.132660@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147950176.209193.114620@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1147963387.242770.104600@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1147970057.637323.28100@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 18 May 2006 09:34:17 -0700, "Peter Wieck" wrote: >Us? We? >If there is one thing that is certain, it is that *you* write only for >yourself. Oh, right! Pond Scum consists of multiple small organisms. Actually, Noodles has rats in his pockets...occupational hazard of a rag picker, donchaknow.... Article: 334514 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Sears Silvertone FM - AM Radio Phonograph Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 21:07:04 -0700 Message-ID: References: <24025-446BBA79-956@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> On Thu, 18 May 2006 22:07:39 GMT, "Gregory Morrow" wrote: >Maybe "cuhulin" could use it to house his WebTeeVee unit... ...or he could add it on to his trailer... Article: 334515 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Sears Silvertone FM - AM Radio Phonograph Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 21:07:04 -0700 Message-ID: <4ugq62d813ieks4663ph4vjf1tab1oh6br@4ax.com> References: <24025-446BBA79-956@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> <1147990519.924942.153770@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> >On 18 May 2006 15:15:19 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >those sound really good, for SS units Only if you're an idiot like Charlie Nudo, they do. Article: 334516 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: To Charlie the Dirtbag: FALSE ADVERTISING ON EBAY Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 21:07:04 -0700 Message-ID: References: Hey Noodles. Those Webster POS changers you have up on eBay? False advertizing. Astatic NEVER made a magnetic cartridge, period. It's a cheap ceramic. That "needle that turns around?" It may very well be a GE from the early '50s, but you're too stupid to figure that out, aren't you? Charlie Nudo aka 66fourdoor...a fraud a day, the Nudo way! Article: 334517 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 14:32:37 +1000 From: Lionel Sharp Subject: Re: EA53 tube for HP410B VTVM? References: Message-ID: <446d4a63$0$27149$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> COLIN LAMB wrote: > "Messed up probes are the #1 reason than many otherwise good 410Bs get > junked, which is a shame." > > My response might offend the purists, but I can defend myself by stating > that I am just an amateur. > > I hate throwing things out. And, I hate spending money on parts that cost > more than the instrument. So, if I had an HP 410 that had a bad probe and I > did not wish to invest in a new tube, I would find a tube that would fit > into the probe and used the appropriate filament voltage. Even a triode can > be used as a diode. The fact that the fitting of the tube might destroy the > frequency response may not be a big factor. Heck, we usually only operate > up to 450 MHz. Even if the calibration is not absolutely correct, it can be > tested easily with a signal generator and calibrated with a calibration > chart. What you end up is a bastard HP 410, which is still better than a > broken one. > > I must admit that I have bastardized a lot of things instead of throwing > them out. Some of the stuff I have works better than when it left the > factory. Some does not. In each case, I have outsmarted the trash man. > > 73, Colin K7FM > > Have a look at Tubeworld http://www.tubeworld.com at They advertise NOS EA53 for $10 each 73 Lionel VK4NS Article: 334518 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Kadette Jewel question Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 23:29:05 -0500 Message-ID: <6571-446D4991-1019@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: I have a Jewel radio sitting on the top shelf with a bunch of other radios in my front bedroom closet.But it doesn't work.Physically and cosmetically,it is in great condition though. cuhulin Article: 334519 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Sears Silvertone FM - AM Radio Phonograph Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 23:43:34 -0500 Message-ID: <6572-446D4CF6-222@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <1147990519.924942.153770@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> I dont know,maybe tomorrow or Saturday,I might clean some of that other Goodwill junk out of my lonnnngggg wheelbase 1978 Dodge van and get back over there to that Goodwill store,six tenths of a mile South (there are two other Goodwill stores in this city of confusion too) of me and if that Sears Silvertone FM AM Phonograph radio is still there,I just might buy it and let it roll around in my van for a few months untill I figure out what I want to do with it. I knew it isn't all that much collectible,,, I wasen't born yesteday.Every once in a while,I see a ''theater'' in that store.If y'all know what a ''theater'' is? Many years ago,I drove a delivery truck for Ingles appliances store.KBO 776,wherrrre arrreee youuuuu?........ cuhulin Article: 334520 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: 1930s under the dash auto radios Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 01:13:27 -0400 Message-ID: <126qkvt156qm864@corp.supernews.com> References: <1147953790.248804.231790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Tim Mullen wrote: > In "Gary Tayman" writes: > > >>By the way, I'm not quite that Buick with the Transoceanic. > > > Not being a car owner, I was unaware of Buick being an adjective. > Ya gotta clue me in on this one! :) "Solid, but mundane"? I'm not really an 'old' guy but I'm old enough to relate to where car model brands could be readily accepted as some measure of quality. No particular rationale, though, and I have never heard them used as adjectives. I'd say Buick would be about a 7 or 8 on the 1-10 scale in the 50s. Olds would be a notch lower. Cadillac a notch higher. Really mundane GM/Ford models would be average 4-5. To me this seems like some of that 'osmosis knowledge' of the era that someone looking backwards would have a lot of questions about :) Anybody else feel this way? -ex > Article: 334521 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: - exray - Subject: Re: To Charlie the Dirtbag: FALSE ADVERTISING ON EBAY Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 01:14:44 -0400 Message-ID: <126ql27bcte4k8e@corp.supernews.com> References: Mark Oppat wrote: > DB, > look, STOP posting all these notes about your arch rival here. STOP responding to trolls, Mark. Dammit. I did it again. -ex Article: 334522 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <446cc1dc.593082327@news.east.cox.net> Subject: Re: HELPME! GE Console knobs needed [RIMARK] Message-ID: Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 05:25:51 GMT They look like the same knobs used on the J-62 "Treasure Chest" model and probably most of that era's stuff. They should be findable. Havta check the garage... Ray "Mark T" wrote in message news:446cc1dc.593082327@news.east.cox.net... > > Jeesh I've been looking everywhere for a set of four knobs for a GE > console I'm fixing up for a guy. Neither he or I care that the set is > exactly original at this point. He just wants it to be functional. > > I only have one of the original knobs, you can see it at: > http://www.hamnutz.com/w1eof/knobGE/ > > I purchased a set of Philco console knobs but although they were for a > "D" shaft, the "D" is too large. So I'm not quite sure what to call > them, but these are for a small-D-shaft. > > If I can't get the proper D-shaft knobs maybe I can get a set-screw > knob to work OK? > > Thanks to all! > > Mark in RI