Article: 334523 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jim Mueller <wrongname@nospam.com>
Subject: Re: Testing a 6B5 tube
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 22:37:19 -0700
Message-ID: <pan.2006.05.19.05.37.19.375137@nospam.com>
References: <387i62dnr374de5k663vmn7q7rfp85506k@4ax.com> <1147741152.882449.59540@v46g2000cwv.googlegroups.com> <8j8q62ptoeq6pje4ocjj7tevn83jkksjoq@4ax.com>

On Thu, 18 May 2006 21:42:58 -0400, Blacksmith wrote:

> On 15 May 2006 17:59:12 -0700, feldtm@msn.com wrote:
> 
>>The Hickok 539C and Triplett 3444 mutual conductance tube testers
>>include that tube in their tube charts. What tube testers are you
>>using?
>>
>>Michael Feldt
>>www.indianaradios.com
> 
> Precision 10-60
> Heathkit TT-1
> Knight KG-600B
> Heathkit IT-17
> Blacksmith
> wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom

Here are the settings that I "made up" for the Knight KG-600B.  Actually,
I took the settings for a 6N6 and changed them to accomodate the different
pin connections.

TUBE	SHORTS	A	B	C	U	D	GAS
1-6B5	(6)	2	6.3	68	3-4	1	(4)
2-6B5	(6)	2	6.3	46	2-4	1-5

enjoy

-- 
Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com

To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz.
Then replace nospam with sacbeemail.


Article: 334524 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: - exray - <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Dinius
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 02:04:15 -0400
Message-ID: <126qnv3mkiuo1ce@corp.supernews.com>

If you ever email me again with your bipolar jibberish and a fake name 
to duck my filters you're going to suffer some shit.  Remember who got 
you tossed from two ISPs.  I'm going after your free-check welfare 
status next. You better stock up on canned food while you can.

-ex


Article: 334525 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Still looking for Philco 16B escutcheon
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 00:18:01 -0600
Message-ID: <10782-446D6319-1430@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net>

Like the one on this radio .
http://radioatticarchives.com/images/p/Philco_16B_(1934)_Turney.jpg 

Thanks



Article: 334526 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: [1] What is a troll and [2] How do I make it go away?
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 23:08:11 -0700
Message-ID: <m5oq621cisruf2rldhvvd7n05267u0flv5@4ax.com>
References: <bf-dnUagnt5Dw_DZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@giganews.com>

On Thu, 18 May 2006 22:59:51 -0700, "Phil Nelson"
<philnelson@nospam.xyz> wrote:

>Daddy, what is a troll?
>
>[1] A troll is a thing that posts provocative, frequently off-topic messages 
>in a newsgroup. It thrives on attention -- any attention, negative or 
>positive. In many cases, the more negative attention the troll receives, the 
>more frequent and the more outrageous its postings.
>
>Daddy, how do I make it go away?
>
>[2] Silence. Utter silence. Never reply to a troll's postings, whether 
>on-topic or off-topic. Never reply to a troll's replies. Never lecture the 
>troll. Never try to improve the troll's behavior. That's like trying to 
>improve the behavior of a rock. Just keep your trap shut (and don't you have 
>better things to do anyway? :-)
>
>I have outlived many trolls. If you deprive them of food -- i.e., responses 
>of ANY kind -- they wither and move elsewhere.
>
>Phil Nelson <snip>

Nicely composed.  Does that mean you belong in my kill filer?


Article: 334527 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Dinius
Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 23:10:26 -0700
Message-ID: <n8oq629e14nu9sdpso23upcdlddv61mfsn@4ax.com>
References: <126qnv3mkiuo1ce@corp.supernews.com>

On Fri, 19 May 2006 02:04:15 -0400, - exray - <exray@coqui.net> wrote:

>If you ever email me again with your bipolar jibberish and a fake name 
>to duck my filters you're going to suffer some shit.  Remember who got 
>you tossed from two ISPs.  I'm going after your free-check welfare 
>status next. You better stock up on canned food while you can. <snip>

Troll food.


Article: 334528 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com>
Subject: Looking for schematic
Message-ID: <1Ifbg.855$sb7.176@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 08:53:17 GMT

Trying to find one for a GE  T-115A/116A (Sams 409-8).

Any out there?

Thanks,

Ray




Article: 334529 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Gary Tayman" <caradio@verizon.net>
References: <kd2q62l937ej3ifkqh77nfqk7kheedpn5a@4ax.com> <uugq62p1hag6ff13cc90f2q7b3nahguh76@4ax.com> <BL6dnS-p37KszvDZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: To Charlie the Dirtbag:  FALSE ADVERTISING ON EBAY
Message-ID: <kfgbg.5872$RY2.5852@trnddc02>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:30:56 GMT

Ahh, but Mark, this is getting to be so entertaining!  Just like an episode 
of The Bickersons.

I just can't wait to get on this newsgroup each day, to see what these guys 
are saying to each other.  If they run around mad all the time, that's their 
problem.  Me, I'm starting to enjoy it!  (Can't do much else)



-- 
Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical
Sound Solutions For Classic Cars
http://www.taymanelectrical.com




"Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message 
news:BL6dnS-p37KszvDZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> DB,
> look,  STOP posting all these notes about your arch rival here.  We all 
> know
> you hate him so much you could just die.  Fine, we get it. Now quit.
>
> You have proven you have some good insight to contribute.  Stick to that,
> you'll have some friends here.
>
> Here's the deal.  We all have only so many days on earth.  I'm an 
> Agnostic,
> I believe thats probably ALL we have forever.  But I dont care if you are 
> a
> Baptist, Jew or Buddist and believe in some kind of afterlife... the deal 
> is
> you gotta do everything possible to spread peace, love and knowledge while
> you occupy your spot here on the dirtball we call home.
>
> It seems our current culture (especially TV) promotes nothing but
> self-centered bickering (that f -**ing "reality" TV is the worst) .   Who
> wants to live like that?
>
> You seem to have devolved to the point that you thrive on it.  Well... 
> try
> to understand this.  When you move up a notch on the food chain you will
> discover that being a mature man means TEACHING and PRAISING the good
> folks...not PUNISHING the idiots.
>
> Ignore Nudo.  NOW.  IGNORE him.  He will die someday and maybe that will
> make you very happy but right now just IGNORE him.   If he makes enough
> folks unhappy on ebay, he will get what he deserves eventually.
>
> My dear friend Chris Haedt died at age 53 last year... and, besides the 
> pile
> of business associates at his funeral, there was a whole on-line community
> that mourned him.  Why? Because he tried to help EVERYONE he could...  he
> tried to pass along everything he learned all the time, in the Radio Forum
> mostly but also in hundreds of individual emails.  Google his name (in
> quotes) and just read some of the stuff folks were saying after he died. 
> It
> was like he was the Mother Theresa of tube testers!  He deserved it all,
> too.
>
> If you teach and praise,  you will win friends... and, if you die first
> maybe we will mourn you, and imagine how dejected Nudo will feel.
>
> So, let that be your motivation if that's what it takes...
>
> But, please.  Stop this madness so we can return our group to our normal 
> on
> topic discussions and our occasional political and religious bickering.
>
> Mark
> ("What's so funny 'bout peace, love and understanding?" Oppat
>
>
> "DeserTBoB" <desertb@rglobal.net> wrote in message
> news:uugq62p1hag6ff13cc90f2q7b3nahguh76@4ax.com...
>> Hey Noodles.  Those Webster POS changers you have up on eBay?  False
>> advertizing.  Astatic NEVER made a magnetic cartridge, period.  It's a
>> cheap ceramic.  That "needle that turns around?"  It may very well be
>> a GE from the early '50s, but you're too stupid to figure that out,
>> aren't you?
>>
>> Charlie Nudo aka 66fourdoor...a fraud a day, the Nudo way!
>>
>
>
> 




Article: 334530 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: RdM <rdm@orcon.net.zz>
Subject: Re: WTD: Unobtainium!
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 22:13:47 +1200
Message-ID: <t66r62pn4j0k97532vjmecm3enio8jeep0@4ax.com>
References: <e3veki$5di$1@news2.kornet.net> <zwR8g.69846$Jk3.55266@bignews5.bellsouth.net> <1147712790.613063.89160@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4468B5B6.EBEA1CE1@earthlink.net> <1147714389.943798.154240@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

"Stephanie Weil" <stephanienyc@gmail.com> in 
rec.antiques.radio+phono<1147714389.943798.154240@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
> Oh God, Michael, don't get me started....
> 
> Every time I think of Radio Row, I cry inside. Seriously.   :(

> At least Seoul, ROK still has a "Radio Row", of sorts.

Can you tell us more about it? 
I've a close friend teaching English there who visits Seoul from time to time.
-- 
Ross Matheson
Auckland, NZ


Article: 334531 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Beerbarrel <beerbarrel@cox.net>
Subject: Re: 1930s under the dash auto radios
Message-ID: <u7br62lkv6a3oomhcue0mn5237p5bre4jb@4ax.com>
References: <1147953790.248804.231790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <iU9bg.10731$mU6.6805@trnddc07> <e4jcqn$33d$1@reader1.panix.com> <126qkvt156qm864@corp.supernews.com> <1148016167.196509.298090@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 07:33:41 -0400

On 18 May 2006 22:22:47 -0700, "Steven"
<thisjukeboxplays33rpm@yahoo.com> wrote:

>I feel like listening to Jimmy Buffet.


You should listen to Jenny Craig instead.
__________________________________________________________

KE4ODD

Service to my country? Me too and I've got my DD214 and 5 point veteran preference to
prove it. 


*Used with express written permission of its creator.


Article: 334532 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: ad206@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Dennis Lloyd)
Subject: Exhibit - Morse Code -Toronto, Canada
Date: 19 May 2006 13:14:59 GMT
Message-ID: <e4kgcj$cqh$1@theodyn.ncf.ca>

For anyone passing through Toronto airport this year, there is an exhibit
on the history of Morse Code. Details below.
Dennis Lloyd.
Ottawa, Canada.
-------------

As part of the Greater Toronto Airports Authority (GTAA) Exhibit
Program, the Canada Science and Technology Museum (CSTM), in
collaboration with the Royal Ontario Museum (ROM), is presenting the
exhibit Morse Code from May 6, 2006 to January 7, 2007. Anyone
passing through Pearson International Airport's Malton Gallery
(Terminal 1) can experience the history and essence of electrical
communication in its first century.


Article: 334533 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Caveat Lector" <UALLBeware@9984reader.com>
References: <1147914709.168766.162710@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <1147915467.240493.189930@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1147962557.920678.266350@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <UR8bg.73736$F_3.6110@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Pioneers of Primetime
Message-ID: <S2kbg.177242$bm6.31544@fed1read04>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 06:50:45 -0700

Don't forget the "Today Show" hosted by Dave Garroway - debuted Jan 1952. In 
1953 a chimpanzee named J. Fred Muggs perked up the show. Hey and I still 
remember Congoleum linoleum.
Yep - same "Today Show" running for 54 years !!!!

URL: http://tvparty.com/50stoday.html

And would you believe Mendel Berlinger is sometimes credited with being the 
first person to appear on television in an experimental TV broadcast in 
1929?  Who is Mendel Berlinger ??

Clue - Uncle Miltie

URL: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000926/bio

-- 
CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be !






"Carter-K8VT" <k8vt@ameritech.net> wrote in message 
news:UR8bg.73736$F_3.6110@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
> Mike Koste wrote:
>
>> (The only thing that gives it a score of 9 instead of 10 is that the
>> producers felt compelled to include Steve Allen in the interviews.)
>
>
> Not sure what you have against Steve Allen (although you are certainly 
> entitled to your opinion). First, I believe he was the very first host of 
> the 'Tonight' show--and a lot of today's night time show hosts are *still* 
> using some of Allen's shticks almost 50 years later--so it's hard to see 
> how the producers could have left him out.
>
> Additionally, Allen was quite a multi-talented guy, including the 
> authoring of several books. My favorite of his was titled "The Dumbing of 
> America' (or similar). A very perceptive book, and IMHO, the conditions he 
> described have only worsened in the last 15 years or so since he wrote it. 




Article: 334534 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: WTD: Unobtainium!
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 23:08:27 +0900
Message-ID: <e4kjdg$ob3$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <e3veki$5di$1@news2.kornet.net> <zwR8g.69846$Jk3.55266@bignews5.bellsouth.net> <1147712790.613063.89160@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4468B5B6.EBEA1CE1@earthlink.net> <1147714389.943798.154240@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <t66r62pn4j0k97532vjmecm3enio8jeep0@4ax.com>


"RdM" <rdm@orcon.net.zz> wrote in message 
news:t66r62pn4j0k97532vjmecm3enio8jeep0@4ax.com...
> "Stephanie Weil" <stephanienyc@gmail.com> in
> rec.antiques.radio+phono<1147714389.943798.154240@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
>> Oh God, Michael, don't get me started....
>>
>> Every time I think of Radio Row, I cry inside. Seriously.   :(
>
>> At least Seoul, ROK still has a "Radio Row", of sorts.
>
> Can you tell us more about it?
> I've a close friend teaching English there who visits Seoul from time to 
> time.
> -- 
> Ross Matheson
> Auckland, NZ

In the Yongsan district of Seoul is a several square block area of almost 
nothing but hundreds of electronics, electrical, etc. shops.  Of primary 
interest to those wishing to find electronics components of nearly any ilk 
is Electroland (ETLand) The main part of the building (7 or 8 floors, I 
can't remember for sure) houses shops for post-production items... 
everything from cheap pocket radios to Plasma TV's to major appliances. The 
basement level is home to just about any part you could want for electronics 
repair or building. From such archaic things as vacuum tubes to the latest 
MLSI chips.





Article: 334535 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Yellow Powder on Old Chassis
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 08:21:20 -0600
Message-ID: <26012-446DD460-1568@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net>
References: <446DC313.7E830907@earthlink.net>

Put another way, the dose you get from mishandling a (cadmium-oxide)
contaminated chassis might just put you over some threshold.


I should have been dead long ago then .



Article: 334536 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: 1930s under the dash auto radios
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 08:34:51 -0600
Message-ID: <26013-446DD78B-426@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1147953790.248804.231790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

In the past i have had 2 or 3 of those . They are heavy , dirty & clumsy
with those stiff control cables whipping around , you can unscrew them
and use a screwdriver to turn the controls in the radio box .
The insides look alot like a regular radio . You also almost need a car
battery to run one for long .. they take alot of amps and will overheat
power supplys .

My friends here just bought a 1938 Packard coup in which has a radio
that i will be restoring . Beautifull car with only 30 some K miles on
it .     



Article: 334537 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Dinius
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 07:47:04 -0700
Message-ID: <gimr621cpkmsitbe9j5c8litps4mjtpupn@4ax.com>
References: <126qnv3mkiuo1ce@corp.supernews.com> <n8oq629e14nu9sdpso23upcdlddv61mfsn@4ax.com> <1148040217.019124.50830@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 19 May 2006 05:03:37 -0700, "Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote:

>>Troll food. 
>
>You would be the expert. <snip>

You're off task.  Go chew on Noodles some more.  You were doing so
well at it.


Article: 334538 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Sears Silvertone FM - AM Radio Phonograph
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 10:29:31 -0500
Message-ID: <12370-446DE45B-392@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1148013246.665166.226550@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

In a couple of hours,I am going to slip across Highway 80 and then on
Morson Road and take a left on Morson Road and if that Sears Silvertone
is still there at the Goodwill store,,,, what the heck? I might as well
add it to my junk collection too.
cuhulin



Article: 334539 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Sears Silvertone FM - AM Radio Phonograph
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 10:25:32 -0500
Message-ID: <12369-446DE36C-1362@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
References: <ptgq62tk4bd4t7sltavcteo8qn465m6mq0@4ax.com>

I dont live in a trailer,I never have lived in a trailer before.I live
in a big old nine room wooden house that was built in 1947.Big old 14 by
7 feet front concrete porch with four square section wooden post on the
big old porch.On my porch is an old Chattanooga Leroi number 3 Railroad
Caboose stove/heater (it is about one hundred years old) and an old
U.S.Post Office drop box which dates back to 1941,the year I was born,in
a ''bog''. If you want Bogs,go to Ireland,no Bogs around here.I own a
big reprint book of the Book Of Kells.The original Book Of Kells was
found in a Bog in Ireland.That Book Of Kells is in a Library in
Dublin,Ireland and every day,someone in that Library unlocks that glass
case and turns one page.
cuhulin,more Irish than the Irish themselves  



Article: 334540 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Heriberto" <lu6dbu@tapalquenet.com.ar>
References: <446cc8bc_1@x-privat.org> <1148015642.655360.295590@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: PHILCO 39-720 SCHEMATICS?
Message-ID: <446dead4_2@x-privat.org>
Date: 19 May 2006 17:57:08 +0200

Hi Steven:

Yes , the model is 39-720, I believe that model was marked by Africaan
country,  by Philco but  I¨'not sure.- In the back chassis can be looking: "
PHILCO TROPIC RADIO philadelfia, 120/240-50/60-4A.39-720-EZ-121.IMPORTE DES
ESTATE UNIS AMERICALE

chasis nº: A0370B "

Thanks Steven and REgards

Heriberto


"Steven" <thisjukeboxplays33rpm@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:1148015642.655360.295590@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Are you certain that's the correct number?  I've gone through Scott
> Harvey's Rider's Index and I can't find the exact match. I have found
> 39-70, 71, 711...no 710 though.
>



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Article: 334541 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Dinius
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 08:41:22 -0700
Message-ID: <rlpr6299pfohe52a522002tcj21ba3ae3s@4ax.com>
References: <126qnv3mkiuo1ce@corp.supernews.com> <n8oq629e14nu9sdpso23upcdlddv61mfsn@4ax.com> <1148040217.019124.50830@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <gimr621cpkmsitbe9j5c8litps4mjtpupn@4ax.com> <1148052466.938915.119870@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>

On 19 May 2006 08:27:46 -0700, "Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote:

>>You're off task. Go chew on Noodles some more. You were doing so well at it.
>
>No, I suffer from an inability to tell you two apart without a
>microscope. <snip>

If so, you need the immediate services of both a good ophthalmologist
and a clinical psychiatrist.  The differences are like that of night
and day, to anyone willing to spend an ort of time to do a little
research.

>Both of you are pond scum, both of you have nothing-much to
>contribute on or off topic, and none of us wish to hear about how
>bitter your divorce (from each other) was. If you were to go away, and
>take your unnatural issue (Skippy) with you, this group would be vastly
>better for it.  <snip>

"Skippy" is your own little project.  Enjoy him as you will, as now
you've added Noodles to the same collection.

Do you have any 6J7s?


Article: 334542 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: To Charlie the Dirtbag: FALSE ADVERTISING ON EBAY
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 08:42:26 -0700
Message-ID: <qppr62l8qno436sqekucat2ne9tnco51js@4ax.com>
References: <kd2q62l937ej3ifkqh77nfqk7kheedpn5a@4ax.com> <uugq62p1hag6ff13cc90f2q7b3nahguh76@4ax.com> <BL6dnS-p37KszvDZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com> <1148038820.382717.154800@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148049958.003928.184060@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 19 May 2006 07:45:58 -0700, "toxcrusadr" <cadyc@mchsi.com> wrote:

>Dear Mr. Caine:
>
>Read Mr. Oppat's posting again and think about yourself.  In my opinion
>it's terribly inappropriate to wave another person's "pathetic life"
>around in public.  It's embarrassing and puts you on the same level as
>Bob.  Really.
>
>Tox <snip>

"Mr. Caine?"  Obviously you haven't a clue as to Charlie Nudo's
aliases and Usenet scams.  See Peter Wieck and get some help together.


Article: 334543 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Heriberto" <lu6dbu@tapalquenet.com.ar>
References: <446cc8bc_1@x-privat.org> <1148015642.655360.295590@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: PHILCO 39-720 Schematics ?
Message-ID: <446debe5$1_2@x-privat.org>
Date: 19 May 2006 18:01:41 +0200

The picture this model can be looking in:
http://www.deremate.com.ar/accdb/viewitem.asp?idi=12269224
REgards
Heriberto
"Steven" <thisjukeboxplays33rpm@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:1148015642.655360.295590@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Are you certain that's the correct number?  I've gone through Scott
> Harvey's Rider's Index and I can't find the exact match. I have found
> 39-70, 71, 711...no 710 though.
>





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Article: 334544 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Heriberto" <lu6dbu@tapalquenet.com.ar>
References: <446cc8bc_1@x-privat.org> <1148015642.655360.295590@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: PHILCO 39-720 Schematics?
Message-ID: <446debe7_2@x-privat.org>
Date: 19 May 2006 18:01:43 +0200

The picture this model can be looking in:
http://www.deremate.com.ar/accdb/viewitem.asp?idi=12269224
REgards
Heriberto
"Steven" <thisjukeboxplays33rpm@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:1148015642.655360.295590@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> Are you certain that's the correct number?  I've gone through Scott
> Harvey's Rider's Index and I can't find the exact match. I have found
> 39-70, 71, 711...no 710 though.
>







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Article: 334545 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Ken <wklwns@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Kadette Jewel question
References: <sa7q621dejqtuaqql3fpsrvfmle4hj3o1b@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <N8mbg.77680$gE.70472@dukeread06>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 12:13:28 -0400

Try an oven at 150 deg, wood on each side to flatten. Ken

Phil Witt wrote:

> My wife dragged in a Kadette Jewel from a barn today. It appears all
> original and has a plain brown Bakelite case. The (I have seen it
> called Tenite) speaker grill is somewhat warped. I seems reasonably
> pliant and I wonder what the best way to flatten it might be. An iron
> comes to mind right away. Any recommendations?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Phil



Article: 334546 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Ken <wklwns@cox.net>
Subject: Re: TV fans, 257 Accurate Instrument Co. tester
References: <_%5bg.77449$gE.36860@dukeread06> <446cf7e5.6523005@news.turbousa.com>
Message-ID: <m9mbg.77681$gE.47652@dukeread06>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 12:14:05 -0400

Found a taker, Ken

Richard_G_ Hines wrote:

> Hi Ken,
> 
> Sent email for the manual.
> 
> Richard
> --------------
> On Thu, 18 May 2006 17:51:50 -0400, Ken <wklwns@cox.net> wrote:
> 
> 
>>I found a setup book for one of these testers tucked in a I-177 tester. 
>>If you have one of these tv tube testers without the book this one is 
>>free for the asking. wklw at cox dot net. Ken
>>
> 
> 



Article: 334547 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: To Charlie the Dirtbag: FALSE ADVERTISING ON EBAY
From: "Mr. B" <brianesqNOSPAM@hotmail.com>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 09:15:17 -0700
Message-ID: <1148054972_14521@sp6iad.superfeed.net>
References: <kd2q62l937ej3ifkqh77nfqk7kheedpn5a@4ax.com> <uugq62p1hag6ff13cc90f2q7b3nahguh76@4ax.com> <BL6dnS-p37KszvDZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com> <1148038820.382717.154800@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148049958.003928.184060@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148054681.248424.298730@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

"CAINE" <winchester1886@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1148054681.248424.298730@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>A man has to defend his home, his family...and his reputation.  He's
> the one doing the constant attacking, so I will defend.
>
> You would too.  Any man worth his salt would.
>

Any real man worth his salt would see the true nature of this battle and 
drop it for the immature,  time wasting,  nonsense that it is. 




Article: 334548 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Pete_O" <stateasylum@private>
Subject: Re: EA53 tube for HP410B VTVM?  Some were EA52's
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 13:06:07 -0400
Message-ID: <bbc2673b4f4b8638d0c4a7dfcd91aef7@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>
References: <e0a27$446a8aaf$18d649b3$19654@KNOLOGY.NET> <c2dafcb66fb7c6abd26f78028c374bd7@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>

Is FREE reasonable?  I have a take-out from an old engineering study of
years ago.  

***In looking at my EA53's I find that they are EA52's - the same tube but
with leads for the filaments rather than the cylindrical socket.  Will
these do?   As I recall they were used in some versions of the 410B's.
They came from HP where I worked many years ago.  They worked well as
replacements for the 9005 detector tubes in the VHF and UHF Q meters.-
Pete AI2V



Article: 334549 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Pete_O" <stateasylum@private>
Subject: Re: PHILCO 39-720 Schematics ?
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 13:13:37 -0400
Message-ID: <2d285b423e5ed43a894c633077f28712@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>
References: <446cc8bc_1@x-privat.org> <1148015642.655360.295590@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <446debe5$1_2@x-privat.org>

It looks like a Philco 41-240 to me.  -Pete O.



Article: 334550 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Kadette Jewel question
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 12:42:33 -0500
Message-ID: <24025-446E0389-1232@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net>
References: <N8mbg.77680$gE.70472@dukeread06>

Blueberry doggy    www.cattledog.com   she is slurpin out me right ear
now.That means she needs to take me out in the front yard,for whatever.
Yeah,I bought that Sears Silvertone.Because I like it,and what else
matters?
cuhulin



Article: 334551 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Don" <dherrin2@nycap.rr.com>
References: <1Ifbg.855$sb7.176@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for schematic
Message-ID: <WOpbg.1842$8G3.1104@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 20:23:18 GMT

  I scanned one and put it on the binaries group.  Source was "GE Radio 
Service Guide  Volume III"

"Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com> wrote in message 
news:1Ifbg.855$sb7.176@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...
> Trying to find one for a GE  T-115A/116A (Sams 409-8).
>
> Any out there?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ray
>
> 




Article: 334552 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: EA53 tube for HP410B VTVM?  Some were EA52's
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 13:11:05 -0700
Message-ID: <4h9s625t309ma1ddqb2n9u3n4kkgdtvri1@4ax.com>
References: <e0a27$446a8aaf$18d649b3$19654@KNOLOGY.NET> <c2dafcb66fb7c6abd26f78028c374bd7@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <bbc2673b4f4b8638d0c4a7dfcd91aef7@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>

On Fri, 19 May 2006 13:06:07 -0400, "Pete_O" <stateasylum@private>
wrote:

>They worked well as replacements for the 9005 detector tubes in the VHF and UHF Q meters.-
>Pete AI2V <snip>

Hmmm...I have a handful of 9005s...I wonder if they'd work in reverse
in the 410B application...with considerable modification, of course!


Article: 334553 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: - exray - <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: Dinius
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 17:08:28 -0400
Message-ID: <126scug2h6vm485@corp.supernews.com>
References: <126qnv3mkiuo1ce@corp.supernews.com> <1148060713.703994.98580@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

Eddie Brimer wrote:
> - exray - wrote:
> 
>>If you ever email me again with your bipolar jibberish and a fake name
>>to duck my filters you're going to suffer some shit.  Remember who got
>>you tossed from two ISPs.  I'm going after your free-check welfare
>>status next. You better stock up on canned food while you can.
>>
>>-ex
> 
> 
> bill,
> take the advise you gave me a few days ago....stop it!
> 

but eddie!  you know how it is :)

-Bill


Article: 334554 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Heriberto" <lu6dbu@tapalquenet.com.ar>
References: <446cc8bc_1@x-privat.org> <1148015642.655360.295590@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <446debe5$1_2@x-privat.org> <2d285b423e5ed43a894c633077f28712@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>
Subject: Re: PHILCO 39-720 Schematics ?
Message-ID: <446e3c3b_1@x-privat.org>
Date: 19 May 2006 23:44:27 +0200





It can be, but not found  photos of model 41-240  for comparison
Thanks  Pete
Heriberto

"Pete_O" <stateasylum@private> escribió en el mensaje
news:2d285b423e5ed43a894c633077f28712@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com...
> It looks like a Philco 41-240 to me.  -Pete O.
>



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Article: 334555 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: To Charlie the Dirtbag: FALSE ADVERTISING ON EBAY
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 21:46:02 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <e4leaq$6ij$1@reader1.panix.com>
References: <kd2q62l937ej3ifkqh77nfqk7kheedpn5a@4ax.com> <uugq62p1hag6ff13cc90f2q7b3nahguh76@4ax.com> <BL6dnS-p37KszvDZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com> <1148038820.382717.154800@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148049958.003928.184060@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148054681.248424.298730@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148054972_14521@sp6iad.superfeed.net>

In <1148054972_14521@sp6iad.superfeed.net> "Mr. B" <brianesqNOSPAM@hotmail.com> writes:

>"CAINE" <winchester1886@hotmail.com> wrote in message 
>news:1148054681.248424.298730@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>>A man has to defend his home, his family...and his reputation.  He's
>> the one doing the constant attacking, so I will defend.
>>
>> You would too.  Any man worth his salt would.

>Any real man worth his salt would see the true nature of this battle and 
>drop it for the immature,  time wasting,  nonsense that it is. 

   Very true.

   This is how wars get started.  Next to greed and prejudice, pride
and insults have probably waged more carnage and misery on the human
experience than anything else.  Long after the original slight their
descendants, and their friends' descendants, will carry on the battle.

-- 
                                        Tim Mullen
------------------------------------------------------------------
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Article: 334556 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Robert Mozeleski" <robert.mozeleski@verizon.net>
References: <126qnv3mkiuo1ce@corp.supernews.com>
Subject: Re: Dinius
Message-ID: <lbrbg.255$oA6.212@trnddc06>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 21:57:37 GMT

Waaaaa, want some cheese with that wine?

"- exray -" <exray@coqui.net> wrote in message news:126qnv3mkiuo1ce@corp.supernews.com...
> If you ever email me again with your bipolar jibberish and a fake name to duck my filters you're going to suffer some shit. 
> Remember who got you tossed from two ISPs.  I'm going after your free-check welfare status next. You better stock up on canned 
> food while you can.
>
> -ex 




Article: 334557 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Who was interested in Hickock 539C Data?
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 18:57:22 -0500
Message-ID: <24025-446E5B62-1345@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net>
References: <fsrr62tntpv8ugn5ujqb1tf7h8397p2523@4ax.com>

Thomas Burnside lives exactly one mile West of me,he lives on South
Westhaven Road.He sometimes has ads in ARC magazine about radio related
thingys for sale.About twelve years ago,he told me if I ever come across
a certain model Hickock tester thingy,he would be interested in buying
it from me.Unless he can rip you off,he won't buy anything from you.
cuhulin



Article: 334558 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: NASA has recently answered to the prediction of a mega tsunami
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 19:01:05 -0500
Message-ID: <24025-446E5C41-1346@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1148050315.550073.275460@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>

Look in Popular Mechanics magazines a few years back,on the front cover
and the article inside the magazine.A woman who retired from NASA
says,,,, NASA,You Are Broken!
cuhulin  



Article: 334559 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Hey, Everybody, Offer This Guy a Fair Price
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 20:29:24 -0400
Message-ID: <126sonare259d37@corp.supernews.com>

I'm offering $200-

http://cgi.ebay.com/CLASSIC-EH-SCOTT-E-H-SCOTT-RADIO-16A-28-TUBE-RADIO_W0QQitemZ6629036224

John H. 




Article: 334560 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, Everybody, Offer This Guy a Fair Price
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 00:37:39 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <e4locj$irj$1@reader1.panix.com>
References: <126sonare259d37@corp.supernews.com>

In <126sonare259d37@corp.supernews.com> "Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net> writes:

>I'm offering $200-

>http://cgi.ebay.com/CLASSIC-EH-SCOTT-E-H-SCOTT-RADIO-16A-28-TUBE-RADIO_W0QQitemZ6629036224

>John H. 

   Ya just missed a nice one:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6630176226

Sure, you need to add everything else -- power supply, speaker,
base -- but it went a helluva lot cheaper than the complete
Napier that was up recently.

   Was this particular Scott (with that faceplate) used in
any other cabinets?

-- 
                                        Tim Mullen
------------------------------------------------------------------
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Article: 334561 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Ish <ishmole@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Dinius
Message-ID: <l3qs629bj169hv49reo4nkhemt86htbr7e@4ax.com>
References: <126qnv3mkiuo1ce@corp.supernews.com> <n8oq629e14nu9sdpso23upcdlddv61mfsn@4ax.com> <1148040217.019124.50830@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <gimr621cpkmsitbe9j5c8litps4mjtpupn@4ax.com> <1148052466.938915.119870@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 00:53:11 GMT

On 19 May 2006 08:27:46 -0700, "Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote:

>>You're off task. Go chew on Noodles some more. You were doing so well at it.
>
>No, I suffer from an inability to tell you two apart without a
>microscope. Both of you are pond scum, both of you have nothing-much to
>contribute on or off topic, and none of us wish to hear about how
>bitter your divorce (from each other) was. If you were to go away, and
>take your unnatural issue (Skippy) with you, this group would be vastly
>better for it. 
>
>Peter Wieck
>Wyncote, PA


Amen


Article: 334562 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: To Charlie the Dirtbag: FALSE ADVERTISING ON EBAY
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 17:49:04 -0700
Message-ID: <1rps62t18jrml8ab6p0uo552jetogivl25@4ax.com>
References: <kd2q62l937ej3ifkqh77nfqk7kheedpn5a@4ax.com> <uugq62p1hag6ff13cc90f2q7b3nahguh76@4ax.com> <BL6dnS-p37KszvDZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com> <1148038820.382717.154800@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148049958.003928.184060@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148054681.248424.298730@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148054972_14521@sp6iad.superfeed.net> <e4leaq$6ij$1@reader1.panix.com>

On Fri, 19 May 2006 21:46:02 +0000 (UTC), Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
wrote:

>   This is how wars get started.  Next to greed and prejudice, pride
>and insults have probably waged more carnage and misery on the human
>experience than anything else. <snip>

Wrong.  The historical record shows religion being #1.


Article: 334563 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Blacksmith <blacksmith1@wowway.com>
Subject: Who was looking for data for a Hickock 539-A?
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 21:36:55 -0400
Message-ID: <ciss62donouu4pqs71hg1j4qb9uestodk4@4ax.com>

I am scanning the data now. My previous post should have been 539-A,
but most of this data is for a B or C with conversion information to
make it work with an "A".
Blacksmith
wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom


Article: 334564 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Robert Murrell" <murrellr-dummy@ameritech.net>
Subject: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Message-ID: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 01:43:19 GMT

I'm looking into a robomoderator program.  This program would automate all 
aspects of moderating a usenet newsgroup except booting posters off.  It 
relieves the moderator from most of the tasks involved in moderating a 
newsgroup.  The main problem of doing this (at least me doing it) is 
although my server is powerful enough, I don't have a backup system.  The 
group could be down for days if it craps out and I have to repair it.  It 
has many redundant components except the hard disk, but I'm working on that.

If the software looks good, and I can get it running on my server, would 
this be worthwhile?  Respond yes or no in the subject and explain you reason 
why in the body.  No flame wars, please, just responses.

Rob Murrell






Article: 334565 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: 1930s under the dash auto radios
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 20:52:45 -0500
Message-ID: <23819-446E766D-1399@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1148012718.615900.275430@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

Back in the 1970's,there was an old guy who lived on Clinton Blvd and he
had a 1938 Oldsmobile coup car for sale for $1,500.00.I drove that car,I
should have bought that car,it drove out real good too.It did have a
radio in the dashboard,although I don't remember testing out that
radio.I did buy that Sears Silvertone for $15.00 at the Goodwill store
this afternoon.It will float around in my raggity old 1978 Dodge van for
a few months untill I deeeeeecide on what to do with it.
cuhulin



Article: 334566 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: - exray - <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 22:06:53 -0400
Message-ID: <126sue0ejo5iucc@corp.supernews.com>
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>

Robert Murrell wrote:

> I'm looking into a robomoderator program.  
> 
> 
> 
Could you explain a little bit about how this works?

-Bill


Article: 334567 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: 1930s under the dash auto radios
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 21:02:50 -0500
Message-ID: <23819-446E78CA-1401@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net>
References: <26013-446DD78B-426@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net>

Packard,Peerless,and Pierce Arrow.But Mr.Henry Ford literally put the
World on wheels.And I own a 1914 Ford Model T one seat,one door Runabout
Roadster car.Look em up.I have owned a few other old Ford cars too,1931
Ford four door car and a 1939 Ford two door fastback car and a 1954 one
ton Ford ex-farm Truck.I also own a 1982 Ford van and some other old
vehicles,Bicycles and Motor bikes and another car and vans.
cuhulin



Article: 334568 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Robert Murrell" <murrellr-dummy@ameritech.net>
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>   <-9KdnZjM5NlE6fPZnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1148090304.784322.122380@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Message-ID: <g0vbg.74241$F_3.55127@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 02:18:52 GMT

Admisitrative details aside, would this be beneficial.  Think of this as a 
'pre-vote'.  I just want to know if I should even bother.

"Steven" <thisjukeboxplays33rpm@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1148090304.784322.122380@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> You'd have to have a complete vote on it, as it changes the charter,
> also whomever is in charge of the group i.e. the organization that
> created/offered it for consideration or their successors.
>
> Plenty of moderated groups have lost their moderators, next to few the
> other way.
>
> Not a flame, as you wished.
> 




Article: 334569 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, Everybody, Offer This Guy a Fair Price
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 02:25:14 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <e4luma$ofo$1@reader1.panix.com>
References: <126sonare259d37@corp.supernews.com> <nu2dnZ6gpYu06fPZRVn-vA@comcast.com>

In <nu2dnZ6gpYu06fPZRVn-vA@comcast.com> "graham" <grahamiba@comcast.net> writes:

>"Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net> wrote in message 
>news:126sonare259d37@corp.supernews.com...
>> I'm offering $200-
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/CLASSIC-EH-SCOTT-E-H-SCOTT-RADIO-16A-28-TUBE-RADIO_W0QQitemZ6629036224

>   ... I am sure it will go for alot more ... 

   Why would that be?  Aren't these things common as dirt, like the
look-alike 800's?  Or is this particular model kinda rare and sought
after?

-- 
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Article: 334570 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Robert Murrell" <murrellr-dummy@ameritech.net>
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <126sue0ejo5iucc@corp.supernews.com>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Message-ID: <Cevbg.74245$F_3.53851@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 02:34:10 GMT

Basically, all posts to the newsgroup go through the moderator.  The 
automated moderator program receices and evaluates all posts.  It maintains 
a "white list" and "black list" of posters.  The first post by anyone 
usually is processed as a subscription request, that may involve a human 
moderstor or can be automatically processed.  This puts you on the white 
list.  Any post from someone on the white list gets sent to the world. 
Depending on the sophisication of the program, it can filter posts for 
certain keywords and phrases and pass them to the moderator for evaluation. 
Specific complaints can be sent to the moderator.  If warrented, the 
moderator can put posters on the black list.  This list can be temporary or 
permanent.  Any post from someone on the black list will be rejected, with 
possibly a return message sent to the poster.  Again, depending on the 
sophistication of the moderstor program, posters may be required to be 
authenticated, that is, have a real e-mail account for subscribing.  No 
anonymous posts.  Some programs allow for multiple moderators, so this can 
reduce the problem of posts being accepted or rejected at the whim of the 
moderator.

I should point out that I'm not offering myself to be the moderator, just 
hosting the software.  There is a large fuzzy line between "moderator" and 
"censor".

I'm only asking if I should even bother.  The implimetation details would be 
considered later.

"- exray -" <exray@coqui.net> wrote in message 
news:126sue0ejo5iucc@corp.supernews.com...
> Robert Murrell wrote:
>
>> I'm looking into a robomoderator program.
> Could you explain a little bit about how this works?
>
> -Bill 




Article: 334571 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black)
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Date: 20 May 2006 02:52:29 GMT
Message-ID: <e4m09d$8ft$1@theodyn.ncf.ca>
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>

"Robert Murrell" (murrellr-dummy@ameritech.net) writes:
> I'm looking into a robomoderator program.  This program would automate all 
> aspects of moderating a usenet newsgroup except booting posters off.  It 
> relieves the moderator from most of the tasks involved in moderating a 
> newsgroup.  The main problem of doing this (at least me doing it) is 
> although my server is powerful enough, I don't have a backup system.  The 
> group could be down for days if it craps out and I have to repair it.  It 
> has many redundant components except the hard disk, but I'm working on that.
> 
> If the software looks good, and I can get it running on my server, would 
> this be worthwhile?  Respond yes or no in the subject and explain you reason 
> why in the body.  No flame wars, please, just responses.
> 
This isn't a private space, and thus I don't think you can simply take
an informal vote and turn it into a moderated newsgroup.

If the newsgroups belong to anyone, it belongs to those who allocate
resources.  This is why it takes effort to create a new newsgroup, it's
not to prevent discussion, but to ensure there is a need for another
newsgroup (and the related resources).  And such votes are not limited
to those who are interested in the newsgroup topic (as in collecting votes to
prove there is interest), but are a vote of all interested parties, which
includes those who will allocate resources.  Prove to them that there
is a need, and then the vote passes.

There is debate about whether one can actual transform a newsgroup from
unmoderated to moderated, but it is clear that whether moderation means
adding moderation here or creating another newsgroup that is moderated
>from the start, the proper voting procedure is required.  

ANd there is procedure specific to moderated newsgroup, and I get the
impression that moderation software is not the issue, that it comes
long after the issue of whether moderation is a good thing in a given
newsgroup, after the issue of what should be passable and what isn't,
and who will be the moderators (at least to being with).  Deal
with those other issues first, and then the software will pretty much
take care of itself.

  Michael



Article: 334572 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Barry" <n4buq@knology.net>
References: <e0a27$446a8aaf$18d649b3$19654@KNOLOGY.NET> <c2dafcb66fb7c6abd26f78028c374bd7@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> <bbc2673b4f4b8638d0c4a7dfcd91aef7@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>
Subject: Re: EA53 tube for HP410B VTVM?  Some were EA52's
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 21:57:01 -0500
Message-ID: <6414b$446e84c6$18d649b3$10258@KNOLOGY.NET>

I could always try it.  If I can get the 410B working again and it isn't too
awfully kludgy, then great.

Barry - N4BUQ

"Pete_O" <stateasylum@private> wrote in message
news:bbc2673b4f4b8638d0c4a7dfcd91aef7@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com...
> Is FREE reasonable?  I have a take-out from an old engineering study of
> years ago.
>
> ***In looking at my EA53's I find that they are EA52's - the same tube but
> with leads for the filaments rather than the cylindrical socket.  Will
> these do?   As I recall they were used in some versions of the 410B's.
> They came from HP where I worked many years ago.  They worked well as
> replacements for the 9005 detector tubes in the VHF and UHF Q meters.-
> Pete AI2V
>




Article: 334573 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "R Meldahl" <rdmeldahl@alltel.net>
Subject: Midwest Model 181 Service data
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 22:57:11 -0400
Message-ID: <e09f2$446e8578$438c6367$10714@ALLTEL.NET>

A friend of mine is looking for any service data available for a Midwest 
model 181 (in addition to the riders schematic; 14-6) .. can anybody help?
Thanks
Ryan 





Article: 334574 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com>
References: <1Ifbg.855$sb7.176@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <WOpbg.1842$8G3.1104@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Looking for schematic
Message-ID: <QNvbg.5761$fj6.3750@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 03:11:44 GMT

Thanks! It's more than I was hoping for!

Ray

"Don" <dherrin2@nycap.rr.com> wrote in message 
news:WOpbg.1842$8G3.1104@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>  I scanned one and put it on the binaries group.  Source was "GE Radio 
> Service Guide  Volume III"
>
> "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com> wrote in message 
> news:1Ifbg.855$sb7.176@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com...
>> Trying to find one for a GE  T-115A/116A (Sams 409-8).
>>
>> Any out there?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ray
>>
>>
>
> 




Article: 334575 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Phil Witt <w4imm@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Kadette Jewel question
Message-ID: <9k2t62drlhgrgdctsg6f4s4jcoku4l226r@4ax.com>
References: <sa7q621dejqtuaqql3fpsrvfmle4hj3o1b@4ax.com>
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 22:21:02 -0500

Thanks for the suggestions. I tried the hot water first and, although
it did seem to make the piece more flexible, it didn't want to accept
a new shape. I'll try some of the other suggestions. Careful gluing
into the cabinet might work, too. I'll let you know.

Phil


Article: 334576 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com>
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Message-ID: <xpwbg.1791$XR6.1659@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 03:54:05 GMT

Groups in the rec. hierarchy were established as moderated groups and 
someone else just can't come in and take over when they decide to. (Imagine 
what would happen if they could.)

However, with the retrenching of UseNet many (most) have fallen into 
unmoderated status. In some cases it is impossible to find the original 
founders or assigned moderator(s). In many cases the original founders' 
whole ISP is history. Most groups have reverted to post-moderation (see 
below.)

Taking over the moderation of an established group would require the 
cooperation of the news.admin people who control whether a group is open or 
moderated and whether servers will recognize it as a legitimate group at 
all.

In other words, traffic has to be routed to a moderator for 
pre-approval/rejection and that has to be established.

You need to file an RFD (Request For Discussion) in news.announce.newsgroups 
to start the process.

Read this first:
http://members.fortunecity.com/nnqweb/ncreate.htmlThe alternative, the 
approach used in open groups, such as the alt. hierarchy, is to issue a 
"kill" message for each unwanted post, usually spam. This is "post 
moderation" - moderation _after_ a message has been posted. Not all news 
servers will honor such requests as they have been abused in the past by 
warring individuals and they are usually totally ignored for groups outside 
the alt. hierarchy.

A new rec. group also requires approval by the news.admin people or it will 
neither be recognized nor allowed to remain or propagate. Even alt. groups, 
once freely establishable, are now limited and killed. At one point people 
were starting derogatory groups named for enemies. There are just too many 
dead ones cluttering UseNet's orbit as it is.

For info on how to start/get moderation of a group see:

http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/faqs/big-eight.html

(There used to be others but they seem to have become outdated or 
disappeared.)

I've been through earlier attempts to get rec. groups started, usually to 
replace an alt. group that has become a war zone. Let me warn you it is not 
an easy thing to accomplish - especially when there is ALREADY a group 
serving the interest. This is a means-tested thing (need + ability).

Go for getting moderation assigned again but be careful who is designated as 
moderator(s).

Ray

Also see:

(With usual caveats) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

http://www.net.berkeley.edu/usenet/ucbcreate.shtml


"Robert Murrell" <murrellr-dummy@ameritech.net> wrote in message 
news:Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
> I'm looking into a robomoderator program.  This program would automate all 
> aspects of moderating a usenet newsgroup except booting posters off.  It 
> relieves the moderator from most of the tasks involved in moderating a 
> newsgroup.  The main problem of doing this (at least me doing it) is 
> although my server is powerful enough, I don't have a backup system.  The 
> group could be down for days if it craps out and I have to repair it.  It 
> has many redundant components except the hard disk, but I'm working on 
> that.
>
> If the software looks good, and I can get it running on my server, would 
> this be worthwhile?  Respond yes or no in the subject and explain you 
> reason why in the body.  No flame wars, please, just responses.
>
> Rob Murrell
>
>
>
> 




Article: 334577 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: - exray - <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Date: Fri, 19 May 2006 23:56:33 -0400
Message-ID: <126t4rkfunjiu9d@corp.supernews.com>
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <126sue0ejo5iucc@corp.supernews.com> <Cevbg.74245$F_3.53851@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>

Robert Murrell wrote:

> Basically, all posts to the newsgroup go through the moderator.  

I don't understand that.  I'm posting to Supernews for example.  How can 
you intercept my post before it hits the Supernews server and becomes 
distributed?

Bill


Article: 334578 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 13:25:50 +0900
Message-ID: <e4m5l1$eib$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>   <-9KdnZjM5NlE6fPZnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1148090304.784322.122380@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <g0vbg.74241$F_3.55127@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>


"Robert Murrell" <murrellr-dummy@ameritech.net> wrote in message 
news:g0vbg.74241$F_3.55127@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
> Admisitrative details aside, would this be beneficial.  Think of this as a 
> 'pre-vote'.  I just want to know if I should even bother.
>

I vote no. I base this solely upon my belief that censorship is bad. I can 
deal with a few morons as long as I can also see that everyone's freedom of 
speech is upheld.





Article: 334579 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <446E9AEC.89BBD6AB@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <126sue0ejo5iucc@corp.supernews.com> <Cevbg.74245$F_3.53851@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <126t4rkfunjiu9d@corp.supernews.com>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 04:30:55 GMT

- exray - wrote:
> 
> Robert Murrell wrote:
> 
> > Basically, all posts to the newsgroup go through the moderator.
> 
> I don't understand that.  I'm posting to Supernews for example.  How can
> you intercept my post before it hits the Supernews server and becomes
> distributed?
> 
> Bill


   Take a look at news:rec.radio.broadcast for an example.  A moderated
newsgroup is routed to the moderator before it is even posted on your
own news server.  look at the full headers for any of the messages of
that group.  BTW, a couple years ago the moderator died in a car wreck
and nothing could be posted for a couple weeks because it only had a
single moderator, and the control information died with him.


-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 334580 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Re: Hey, Everybody, Offer This Guy a Fair Price
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 07:38:26 -0400
Message-ID: <126tvtoanh90ede@corp.supernews.com>
References: <126sonare259d37@corp.supernews.com>

Recall that these are available here for FREE occasionally. The 800B is the 
Edsel of Scott's after all. Not that the Edsel was a bad car......

I consider $200- more than fair.

John H. 




Article: 334581 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Re: Hey, Everybody, Offer This Guy a Fair Price
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 07:43:42 -0400
Message-ID: <126u07k91qu8736@corp.supernews.com>
References: <126sonare259d37@corp.supernews.com>

 Note this open ended shipping clause too-

"The buyer pays for shipping and handling/packing."

And if you read their feedback it won't be cheap.

John H. 




Article: 334582 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Beerbarrel <beerbarrel@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Message-ID: <7j2u6216giqf19gdl79gfjkbii1ejdb46j@4ax.com>
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 08:24:29 -0400

On Sat, 20 May 2006 01:43:19 GMT, "Robert Murrell"
<murrellr-dummy@ameritech.net> wrote:

>I'm looking into a robomoderator program.  This program would automate all 
>aspects of moderating a usenet newsgroup except booting posters off.  It 
>relieves the moderator from most of the tasks involved in moderating a 
>newsgroup.  The main problem of doing this (at least me doing it) is 
>although my server is powerful enough, I don't have a backup system.  The 
>group could be down for days if it craps out and I have to repair it.  It 
>has many redundant components except the hard disk, but I'm working on that.
>
>If the software looks good, and I can get it running on my server, would 
>this be worthwhile?  Respond yes or no in the subject and explain you reason 
>why in the body.  No flame wars, please, just responses.
>
>Rob Murrell
>
>
>


Will it shut up dingus?
__________________________________________________________

KE4ODD

Service to my country? Me too and I've got my DD214 and 5 point veteran preference to
prove it. 


*Used with express written permission of its creator.


Article: 334583 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner)
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 08:12:19 -0500
Message-ID: <23819-446F15B3-1473@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net>
References: <e4m5l1$eib$1@news2.kornet.net>

THERE IS ALREADY A NEWSGROUP THAT PURPORTS TO BE MODERATED, WHY NOT GO
THERE IF YOU FIND THE CONDITIONS HERE UNBEARABLE. I FIND THE CONDITIONS
HERE TO BE FINE IF YOU WILL JUST IGNORE THE OCCASIONAL NARE DO WELL,
KEEP YOUR MOUTH SHUT RATHER THAN ANSWERING.  I NOTICE THE IMPETUS ON THE
OTHER  GROUP IS ON CHANGING THE THE STYLE OF ENTERING TO THE POINT THAT
IT IS IMPOSSSIBE TO  DO SO IN A REASONABLE MANNER.


CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com
Bill Turner, excuse  caps, short answers, stroke.
Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide.  






Article: 334584 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Pete_O" <stateasylum@private>
Subject: Re: EA53 tube for HP410B VTVM?- Mail on Monday
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 09:37:49 -0400
Message-ID: <dbf4092aaa64d96128406f1deb530861@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>
References: <e0a27$446a8aaf$18d649b3$19654@KNOLOGY.NET> <1148045291.614705.84300@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

I will be mailing the tubes on Monday- Pete O



Article: 334585 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Hey, Everybody, Offer This Guy a Fair Price
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <126sonare259d37@corp.supernews.com> <126tvtoanh90ede@corp.supernews.com>
Message-ID: <jiFbg.954048$x96.278886@attbi_s72>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 14:00:47 GMT

In article <126tvtoanh90ede@corp.supernews.com>, yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net 
says...
>
>
>Recall that these are available here for FREE occasionally. The 800B is the 
>Edsel of Scott's after all. Not that the Edsel was a bad car......
>
>I consider $200- more than fair.
>
>John H. 
>
>

I have a Scott 800B ... someone offers me $200 for it... they get it... 
delivery free to Lansing... delivery other places possibly

John k9uwa



Article: 334586 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Heriberto" <lu6dbu@tapalquenet.com.ar>
References: <446cc8bc_1@x-privat.org> <1148015642.655360.295590@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <446debe7_2@x-privat.org>
Subject: Re: PHILCO 39-720 Schematics?
Message-ID: <446f2cd6_1@x-privat.org>
Date: 20 May 2006 16:51:02 +0200

I tryed buying it....!
Thanks for your help!!!!
regards
Heriberto

"Heriberto" <lu6dbu@tapalquenet.com.ar> escribió en el mensaje
news:446debe7_2@x-privat.org...
> The picture this model can be looking in:
> http://www.deremate.com.ar/accdb/viewitem.asp?idi=12269224
> REgards
> Heriberto
> "Steven" <thisjukeboxplays33rpm@yahoo.com> escribió en el mensaje
> news:1148015642.655360.295590@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> > Are you certain that's the correct number?  I've gone through Scott
> > Harvey's Rider's Index and I can't find the exact match. I have found
> > 39-70, 71, 711...no 710 though.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Article: 334587 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Heriberto" <lu6dbu@tapalquenet.com.ar>
References: <446cc8bc_1@x-privat.org>  <1148015642.655360.295590@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>  <446debe5$1_2@x-privat.org>  <2d285b423e5ed43a894c633077f28712@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com>  <446e3c3b_1@x-privat.org> <1148088748.829145.273910@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: PHILCO 39-720 Schematics ?
Message-ID: <446f3087_1@x-privat.org>
Date: 20 May 2006 17:06:47 +0200

The picture is identical at:
http://www.deremate.com.ar/accdb/viewitem.asp?idi=12269224

Hmmmmm....rare, not?
Thanks Dave
Heriberto


"Dave" <anaconda89@gmail.com> escribió en el mensaje
news:1148088748.829145.273910@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
It looks uncannily like the model mentioned above:
http://www.radioattic.com/old/sold_radios_2004/Tardi_Philco_41-240_(1941).jp
g
Heriberto wrote:
> It can be, but not found  photos of model 41-240  for comparison
> Thanks  Pete
> Heriberto
>
> "Pete_O" <stateasylum@private> escribió en el mensaje
> news:2d285b423e5ed43a894c633077f28712@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com...
> > It looks like a Philco 41-240 to me.  -Pete O.
> >
>
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Article: 334588 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 10:02:16 -0500
Message-ID: <21360-446F2F78-1425@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1148114583.582110.12070@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

I believe in Free Speech.But I don't like cussin and filthy stuff on
this here Radio.
I reckon I bote (vote) NO.
cuhulin



Article: 334589 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Verne Folk <radioactive@zoominternet.net>
Subject: Bendix 1970/71 Cuda Schematic
Date: 20 May 2006 08:01:28 -0700
Message-ID: <e4nb0801auk@drn.newsguy.com>

Guys and Gals; I'm in need of the schematic for this auto radio. Only markings
on case are Bendix and MARK.  Thanks, verne



Article: 334590 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 08:40:26 -0700
Message-ID: <12eu625ktpeiq49oo6ohquoelc4g5e3kj1@4ax.com>
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <1148109315.091369.173890@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148114583.582110.12070@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148127603.164543.158250@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>

On 20 May 2006 05:20:03 -0700, "Eddie Brimer" <eb062559@aol.com>
wrote:

>i think he is talking about a google type thing.  a reposting of sorts.
> this group would still be unmoderated and people like DB and dinius
>could still pollute it. for those that wanted, they could go to the
>filtered group.  i may be totally wrong about it. <snip>

You are, and you obviously have a bad view of the Noodles/dB thing, as
do some others in here.


Article: 334591 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Hey, Everybody, Offer This Guy a Fair Price
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 08:50:43 -0700
Message-ID: <h5eu62h2q64rl2val4gt1qo2b1a38qck7g@4ax.com>
References: <126sonare259d37@corp.supernews.com> <126tvtoanh90ede@corp.supernews.com>

On Sat, 20 May 2006 07:38:26 -0400, "Hagstar"
<yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net> wrote:

>Recall that these are available here for FREE occasionally. The 800B is the 
>Edsel of Scott's after all. Not that the Edsel was a bad car...... <snip>

It was, but in very few ways.  Badly fitting sheet metal and
malfunctioning transmission seletors were their biggest flaws in '58,
but what really turned people off to it was the "toilet seat" front
end.  Some thought it more like female genitalia.  Essentially, except
for the steering wheel transmission selector and the Jello mold
speedometer and a few other oddities, they drove pretty much like a
'58 Merc.  Compounding the failure of the Edsel was the big
"Eisenhower recession" of 1958.  All the Big 3 took big sales hits
that year, and some of that rubbed off on Edsel.  A drunken Henry Ford
II, seeing the dismal sales rollout, axed the car immediately in his
mind with Robert McNamara egging him on, although it lasted until
1960.  Personally, I thought the '58 and '59 Edsel were good looking
cars, devoid of the gingerbread then being applied to Detroit product
by others.  Probably like Scott 800s, even very nice Edsels go on the
cheap all the time.


Article: 334592 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "clfe" <Nospam@clfurent.com>
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 12:24:21 -0400
Message-ID: <446f428f$0$3706$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net>

"Robert Murrell" <murrellr-dummy@ameritech.net> wrote in message 
news:Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net...
> I'm looking into a robomoderator program.  This program would automate all 
> aspects of moderating a usenet newsgroup except booting posters off.  It 
> relieves the moderator from most of the tasks involved in moderating a 
> newsgroup.  The main problem of doing this (at least me doing it) is 
> although my server is powerful enough, I don't have a backup system.  The 
> group could be down for days if it craps out and I have to repair it.  It 
> has many redundant components except the hard disk, but I'm working on 
> that.
>
> If the software looks good, and I can get it running on my server, would 
> this be worthwhile?  Respond yes or no in the subject and explain you 
> reason why in the body.  No flame wars, please, just responses.
>
> Rob Murrell
>

I posted a week or so ago - about the issues this thread was undoubtedly 
born from.

My only problem here in this newsgroup was a disagreement with a man I seen 
a recent post here on this very thread and whole heartedly "agree" with.
During my disagreement with this guy, I chose to go off and cool down and as 
I did so - realized how dumb that disagreement was. Though it helps to have 
respect for each others opinions, it also helps when one is willing to admit 
they're wrong - when they "are".

Trolls on the other hand are just that..... We'll never stop them. So.......

I agree with what Mr. Turner said - IGNORE THEM. They only stay around when 
you show them attention. Filter them out. It isn't so hard to do.

This group - as I said in another post - isn't anywhere as bad as some 
others - yet - but if you insist on replying - you're inviting trouble.

I don't believe in Moderators because  - some I've seen had biased opinions 
and if their's didn't agree with yours, you were shut out. I noticed that 
when reading posts from different folks. It could be something so minor as 
Tube conduction, or whatever - pick a subject. If the person finds a reason 
not to like your replies, you're gone. Information is supposed to be shared 
and open - such as here. Moderators are like dictators - given half a 
chance.

I find suggestions of reporting them to their ISPs futile too, because those 
ISPs usually don't carry the Newsgroups - much like my past ISP - and could 
care less what happens. Hey, they're getting their $19.95 a month or 
whatever it is they may charge - they're not going to cut their income to 
suit some complaintant who they don't know. I think - ONLY - in case of a 
crime committed, where it is a kidnapping, murder, etc....... can an ISP be 
held liable for information and action. Otherwise, I believe his customer 
base is protected by law. Seems to me, I've read that in some legal reviews 
somewhere while in attorney's offices. It may vary too, accordingly from 
state to state. IF the ISPs had to cut off customers due to conflict, then 
MANY would be cut off, as I highly doubt a day goes by when SOMEONE doesn't 
piss off someone else to the point the "offended" party would love to report 
them and may have. Again, due to income loss, I don't see that happening.

I say - keep on posting and again, as MR. TURNER SUGGESTED - IGNORE THE 
TROLLS.





Article: 334593 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Verne Folk <radioactive@zoominternet.net>
Subject: Re: Bendix 1970/71 Cuda Schematic
Date: 20 May 2006 09:15:58 -0700
Message-ID: <e4nfbu01lmb@drn.newsguy.com>
References: <e4nb0801auk@drn.newsguy.com>

In article <e4nb0801auk@drn.newsguy.com>, Verne Folk says...
>
>Guys and Gals; I'm in need of the schematic for this auto radio. Only markings
>on case are Bendix and MARK.  Thanks, verne
>
Did some research and found that this unit is a 2884 759 OBBJ and is listed in
Sam's AR 89.  Thanks again, verne



Article: 334594 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <446F45D5.257D809@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Bendix 1970/71 Cuda Schematic
References: <e4nb0801auk@drn.newsguy.com> <e4nfbu01lmb@drn.newsguy.com>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 16:40:39 GMT

Verne Folk wrote:
> 
> In article <e4nb0801auk@drn.newsguy.com>, Verne Folk says...
> >
> >Guys and Gals; I'm in need of the schematic for this auto radio. Only markings
> >on case are Bendix and MARK.  Thanks, verne
> >
> Did some research and found that this unit is a 2884 759 OBBJ and is listed in
> Sam's AR 89.  Thanks again, verne


   I have a copy of AR-89 if you need any of the information.


-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 334595 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: John Bartley <oldrad@sympatico.ca>
Subject: Re: Hey, Everybody, Offer This Guy a Fair Price
References: <126sonare259d37@corp.supernews.com>
Message-ID: <LbIbg.7666$z97.213892@news20.bellglobal.com>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 13:18:38 -0400

Hagstar wrote:
> I'm offering $200-
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/CLASSIC-EH-SCOTT-E-H-SCOTT-RADIO-16A-28-TUBE-RADIO_W0QQitemZ6629036224
> 
> John H. 
> 
> 


Sure is shined up nice ... I wonder what the underside looks like ... ???

What customs forms and extra paperwork ... ???

-- 
regards from ::

John Bartley
43 Norway Spruce Street
Stittsville, Ontario
Canada, K2S1P5

( If you slow down it takes longer
        - does that apply to life also?)


Article: 334596 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Verne Folk <radioactive@zoominternet.net>
Subject: Re: Bendix 1970/71 Cuda Schematic
Date: 20 May 2006 10:40:36 -0700
Message-ID: <e4nkak022ap@drn.newsguy.com>
References: <e4nb0801auk@drn.newsguy.com> <e4nfbu01lmb@drn.newsguy.com> <446F45D5.257D809@earthlink.net>

In article <446F45D5.257D809@earthlink.net>, Michael A. Terrell says...
>
>Verne Folk wrote:
>> 
>> In article <e4nb0801auk@drn.newsguy.com>, Verne Folk says...
>> >
>>>Guys and Gals; I'm in need of the schematic for this auto radio. Only markings
>> >on case are Bendix and MARK.  Thanks, verne
>> >
>>Did some research and found that this unit is a 2884 759 OBBJ and is listed in
>> Sam's AR 89.  Thanks again, verne
>
>
>   I have a copy of AR-89 if you need any of the information.
>
>
Michael:  I would pay for a copy of the service info for this radio. Actually
all I would need is the schematic and transistor listing.  I have 6 of these
units. The radios all works but after RF/IF alignment they  just don't perform
very well. All IFs peak well and all coils have continuity. Might be that these
radios were poor performers to begin with.  verne



Article: 334597 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 11:29:57 -0700
Message-ID: <c0ou62lpg8mk62u96fk835jr9armacmojf@4ax.com>
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <1148109315.091369.173890@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148114583.582110.12070@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148127603.164543.158250@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <12eu625ktpeiq49oo6ohquoelc4g5e3kj1@4ax.com> <1148145642.231152.100190@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 20 May 2006 10:20:42 -0700, "Eddie Brimer" <eb062559@aol.com>
wrote:

>...besides dinius, you are the biggest problem here.  check that...you
>and dinius are equally annoying. <snip>

...and Nudo isn't?  Not only that, he's a thief and con artist.


Article: 334598 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Bendix 1970/71 Cuda Schematic
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 11:36:00 -0700
Message-ID: <97ou629243j30q574o906tbefntclrhfib@4ax.com>
References: <e4nb0801auk@drn.newsguy.com> <e4nfbu01lmb@drn.newsguy.com> <446F45D5.257D809@earthlink.net> <e4nkak022ap@drn.newsguy.com>

On 20 May 2006 10:40:36 -0700, Verne Folk
<radioactive@zoominternet.net> wrote:

>Michael:  I would pay for a copy of the service info for this radio. Actually
>all I would need is the schematic and transistor listing.  I have 6 of these
>units. The radios all works but after RF/IF alignment they  just don't perform
>very well. All IFs peak well and all coils have continuity. Might be that these
>radios were poor performers to begin with.  verne <snip>

Gary Tayman can tell you his nightmares with Bendix auto radio crap.
Search on "T-Bird" on this NG, and you'll find his posts.
"Caps-in-the-base" IF cans were frequently broken on these, so you
might be able to peak them up, but you won't get the IF to tune
properly.  Wholesale cap replacement's probably necessary too, IF you
can get the IF fixed...which is a tough order to fill.


Article: 334599 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <446f7464$0$31653$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
From: sorry@for.feeding.the.trolls.invalid
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <1148109315.091369.173890@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148114583.582110.12070@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148127603.164543.158250@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <12eu625ktpeiq49oo6ohquoelc4g5e3kj1@4ax.com> <1148145642.231152.100190@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <c0ou62lpg8mk62u96fk835jr9armacmojf@4ax.com>
Date: 20 May 2006 19:56:20 GMT

DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net> wrote:
> On 20 May 2006 10:20:42 -0700, "Eddie Brimer" <eb062559@aol.com>
>>...besides dinius, you are the biggest problem here.  check that...you
>>and dinius are equally annoying. <snip>
> ...and Nudo isn't?  Not only that, he's a thief and con artist.

You 3 behave equally annoying. If only you guys would stop posting 
flames, defence pleas, endless dribble and nonsense, this would be an 
almost ideal newsgroup.



Article: 334600 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Re: Dinius
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 17:15:38 -0400
Message-ID: <126v1o1e7egp1e0@corp.supernews.com>
References: <126qnv3mkiuo1ce@corp.supernews.com> <lbrbg.255$oA6.212@trnddc06>

 They keep morphing like all junk e mail addresses and I can't update my
filters fast enough. I'm almost ready to block some of the troll FEEDERS
too. In my book they bear most of the blame- poor trolls can't help
themselves as easily, and only an idiot thinks advising or scolding them 
with even a
single word is helping. It's NOT- it is fanning the flames. There has never 
been nor will
there ever be anything said on Usenet to justify replying to a troll,
period. There are NO justifying circumstances. If you have to defend your
mom's honor- leave this place. She will be insulted frequently and every 
possible word that can or would be said in reply will only increase the 
troll's power and decrease your own. The only path to what seems like 
victory will involve becoming worse than them..

John H.





Article: 334601 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com>
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <126sue0ejo5iucc@corp.supernews.com> <Cevbg.74245$F_3.53851@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <126t4rkfunjiu9d@corp.supernews.com>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Message-ID: <mOMbg.1362$sb7.995@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 22:32:50 GMT

It can't - unless the admins that control traffic to news servers reset 
routing first. Lacking that, it goes from server to server without pause. By 
the time it gets to the server of someone wanting to "moderate" it could be 
on every server around the world. If they don't read it instantly it will 
be. Barn -> horse outside.

You can not effectively moderate ANY group without the approval and 
cooperation of the news admin management board.

Most groups were started as open groups in the olden days. Everybody was a 
pro and knew how to behave. Most HAD to as they were getting access from 
employers.

It was when the doors were opened by public graphical services (point and 
shoot, so to speak) that the slobs appeared en masse. AOL's entry was a 
watershed.

There was a time when you could set up a group with just a command message. 
Boom! you had a new group right then and there. That got out of hand real 
fast.

People started wanting controlled places so new hierarchies (The Big 8) were 
introduced, including the rec. one we are in. The whole idea behind this was 
that someone was in control and/or some rules could be applied.

Big 8 groups can include or reject binaries and (except alt. groups) have a 
banned posters list, policy, be moderated or open, etc. Moderators are not 
listed in the group charters anymore because they change with time and even 
just die or disappear. Most have disappeared. Just about nobody has the same 
email they had 16 years ago.

There are two ways to moderate a group - pre & post. Before and after.

To make either work "The Big-8 Management Board" has to OK it. That takes an 
RFD to even start discussions.

If people here don't know who and what that is they are talking out the 
wrong end and know zilch. Don't listen to them.

I posted the info on how to go about it in another post.

The BIG question is; do you WANT to?

A LOT of groups died or splintered because of over-moderation. Imagine 
getting one of your enemies put in charge or getting on the wrong side of 
a/the moderator. Mods have opinions and egos too and can squelch a 
discussion so their view wins.

The big push for moderated groups was a decade ago when flamewars and spam 
ruled the alt. groups.

Things aren't that bad anymore. (Lots of reasons, including hard work by 
news admins.)

Things don't really seem that bad here. A couple of stone-throwers aren't 
worth the hassles and risks of moderation.

Ray


"- exray -" <exray@coqui.net> wrote in message 
news:126t4rkfunjiu9d@corp.supernews.com...
> Robert Murrell wrote:
>
>> Basically, all posts to the newsgroup go through the moderator.
>
> I don't understand that.  I'm posting to Supernews for example.  How can 
> you intercept my post before it hits the Supernews server and becomes 
> distributed?
>
> Bill 




Article: 334602 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, Everybody, Offer This Guy a Fair Price
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 08:27:46 +0900
Message-ID: <e4o8i0$d1d$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <126sonare259d37@corp.supernews.com> <LbIbg.7666$z97.213892@news20.bellglobal.com>


"John Bartley" <oldrad@sympatico.ca> wrote in message 
news:LbIbg.7666$z97.213892@news20.bellglobal.com...
> Hagstar wrote:
>> I'm offering $200-
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/CLASSIC-EH-SCOTT-E-H-SCOTT-RADIO-16A-28-TUBE-RADIO_W0QQitemZ6629036224
>>
>> John H.
>
>
> Sure is shined up nice ... I wonder what the underside looks like ... ???
>
> What customs forms and extra paperwork ... ???
>

He wants to charge to write the addresses twice.  How greedy can you get? 
Everything I send out of here has to have customs forms on it. Even just 
going to the states. It takes me all of 2 minutes to fill out the (FREE) 
form, and that's if I'm not at home where I have all my pre-made stamps for 
such things.





Article: 334603 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, Everybody, Offer This Guy a Fair Price
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 08:30:47 +0900
Message-ID: <e4o8nl$d2o$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <126sonare259d37@corp.supernews.com> <a4SdnbheyJQe4fLZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@comcast.com>


"Bill Cohn" <billcohn1.comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:a4SdnbheyJQe4fLZnZ2dnUVZ_u2dnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Hagstar wrote:
>> I'm offering $200-
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/CLASSIC-EH-SCOTT-E-H-SCOTT-RADIO-16A-28-TUBE-RADIO_W0QQitemZ6629036224
>>
>> John H.
> Isn't this the same radio that went for $280 in this auction? 6628812475

Same model, minus the cabinet... different serial number.





Article: 334604 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Ish <ishmole@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Message-ID: <8j9v625kc8l8va6as2sid6gcmp5q95kf58@4ax.com>
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <1148109315.091369.173890@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148114583.582110.12070@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148127603.164543.158250@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <12eu625ktpeiq49oo6ohquoelc4g5e3kj1@4ax.com>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 23:38:33 GMT

On Sat, 20 May 2006 08:40:26 -0700, DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
wrote:

>You are, and you obviously have a bad view of the Noodles/dB thing, as
>do some others in here.


Almost all of the folks who have been here awhile have a "bad view of
the Noodles/dB thing" as you call it.

You guys seem to have come in here and started most of the recent BS,
cussing out people who have contributed much to this NG for years.
How dare you.

GO AWAY

Filters work, but when somebody takes your troll bait, the thread
appears.

I think that all the regulars here should take a vow NOT to answer
CAINE or DB, no matter what they post even if it is "on topic".

>From now on, I have.

ISH
ISH



Article: 334605 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <446FA909.4684D64@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Sears Silvertone FM - AM Radio Phonograph
References: <24025-446BBA79-956@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 23:44:16 GMT

Gregory Morrow wrote:
> 
> DeserTBoB wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 18 May 2006 22:07:39 GMT, "Gregory Morrow"
> > <gregorymorrowDESTROYALLLOAFHEADS!@earthlink.net> wrote:
> >
> > >Maybe "cuhulin" could use it to house his WebTeeVee unit... <snip>
> >
> > ...or he could add it on to his trailer...
> 
> Lol...Larry reminds me of Mr. Haney on _Green Acres_...I bet he'd try
> to sell you a mule for a dollar.
> 
> --
> Best
> Greg


   Isn't that supposed to be: "I bet he'd try to sell you a dead mule
for a dollar."?


-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 334606 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard)
Subject: Re: Sears Silvertone FM - AM Radio Phonograph
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 18:00:20 -0700
Message-ID: <24872-446FBBA4-660@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1148168941.505494.148570@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>


>He prolly couldn't ascertain if a mule was >dead or alive :-) 
>-- 
>Best
>Greg

Schrodinger's mule? 
Sorry. Couldn't resist. 
:-) 
          oc



Article: 334607 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Verne Folk <radioactive@zoominternet.net>
Subject: Re: Bendix 1970/71 Cuda Schematic
Date: 20 May 2006 17:56:20 -0700
Message-ID: <e4odrk014hn@drn.newsguy.com>
References: <e4nb0801auk@drn.newsguy.com> <e4nfbu01lmb@drn.newsguy.com> <446F45D5.257D809@earthlink.net> <e4nkak022ap@drn.newsguy.com> <446FB252.E5A013B7@earthlink.net>

In article <446FB252.E5A013B7@earthlink.net>, Michael A. Terrell says...
>
>Verne Folk wrote:
>> 
>> In article <446F45D5.257D809@earthlink.net>, Michael A. Terrell says...
>> >
>> >Verne Folk wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In article <e4nb0801auk@drn.newsguy.com>, Verne Folk says...
>> >> >
>>>>>Guys and Gals; I'm in need of the schematic for this auto radio. Only
>>markings
>> >> >on case are Bendix and MARK.  Thanks, verne
>> >> >
>>>>Did some research and found that this unit is a 2884 759 OBBJ and is listed in
>> >> Sam's AR 89.  Thanks again, verne
>> >
>> >
>> >   I have a copy of AR-89 if you need any of the information.
>> >
>> >
>> Michael:  I would pay for a copy of the service info for this radio. Actually
>> all I would need is the schematic and transistor listing.  I have 6 of these
>>units. The radios all works but after RF/IF alignment they  just don't perform
>>very well. All IFs peak well and all coils have continuity. Might be that these
>> radios were poor performers to begin with.  verne
>
>
>   From what I remember, the early Bendix solid state care radios
>weren't very good.  Did you use the right "dummy antenna" when you
>aligned the radio, and did you have the proper alignment procedure?
>These inductor tuned radios are very picky in how you align them.  I'll
>dig out the schematic & parts list and contact you.
>
>
Michael:  I don't have any info on this unit but would appreciate any help with
alignment instructions.  Thank you, verne



Article: 334608 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Sears Silvertone FM - AM Radio Phonograph
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 20:14:26 -0500
Message-ID: <23819-446FBEF2-1579@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1148137296.818300.320280@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

Yeah,Yeah,Yeah.... I Know,I Know,I Know.
cuhulin



Article: 334609 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Sears Silvertone FM - AM Radio Phonograph
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 20:16:43 -0500
Message-ID: <23819-446FBF7B-1580@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1148164956.979341.184200@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

I am,Larry,and I remind me of Goober,Mayberry RFD.I may be dumb,but I
ain't stupid!
cuhulin



Article: 334610 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 20:20:15 -0500
Message-ID: <23819-446FC04F-1581@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net>
References: <446f428f$0$3706$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net>

Move Dog!
I see where google is being sued again.
cuhulin



Article: 334611 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com>
Subject: Philco 38-116 Question
Message-ID: <WAPbg.1922$8G3.1650@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 01:43:18 GMT

Ive got it up and running, but the bass switch (on the the on/off switch) 
seems rather ineffective.
Do they really work or dont they make much difference?

Its recapped and looks to be wired right.

Thanks.,

Keith




Article: 334612 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jeffrey D Angus <jangus@socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <126sue0ejo5iucc@corp.supernews.com> <Cevbg.74245$F_3.53851@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <126t4rkfunjiu9d@corp.supernews.com> <mOMbg.1362$sb7.995@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <XIPbg.5000$G95.1014@tornado.socal.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 01:51:51 GMT

Rune wrote:

> It was when the doors were opened by public graphical services (point and 
> shoot, so to speak) that the slobs appeared en masse. AOL's entry was a 
> watershed.

As I've said before, and I'll say it again.
"On the internet, it's always September somewhere."
(Shortly after AOL joined the fray and opened the floodgates.)

Jeff


-- 
RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to
the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal
force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED
under the Internal Security Act of 1950.


Article: 334613 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: ken scharf <wa2mzeNOSPAMBOTS@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: 1U6 sub for 1L6 in a 600-Series Zenith T/O
References: <1147884733.354451.105360@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <aOPbg.40932$QU3.37996@bignews8.bellsouth.net>
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 21:57:43 -0400

Peter Wieck wrote:
> Confirming posts that go back to 2003 and beyond in this venue, if a
> 1U6 is substituted for a 1L6 (with the addition of ~50-60 ohms of
> resistance across the filament pins), the radio remains just as
> sensitive and reaches just as high as with a new 1L6. I tried out one
> of the sleeve of 1U6s I snagged in Kutztown in the 600L that I also
> snagged in Kutztown. No apparent affect on the alignment or
> dial-pointer accuracy either.
> 
> Just please be sure to make a note and/or mark the chassis so that
> others in the future may understand that the Mod has been done and why.
> 
> 
> Peter Wieck
> Wyncote, PA
> 
There is a complete lineup of 25ma heater tubes in addition to the 1U6. 
  Might it be possible to replace ALL the tubes in the TO with
their 25ma types?  (Or are these tubes also as rare as hens teeth?)

IE: 1AF4 is a sharp cutoff pentode similar to 1T4
     1AF5 is a pentode-diode similar to 1S5
     3E5 is a power pentode similar to 3V4


Article: 334614 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Shawn K <r-520@REMOVETHISshaw.ca>
Subject: Anyone in Florida able to help with this radio collection?
Message-ID: <sQPbg.177830$7a.24673@pd7tw1no>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 01:59:52 GMT

Hello all, I am posting this on behalf of the widow of a friend and 
fellow radio collector. If anyone in northern florida can help, please 
e-mail Christine rhils@panhandle.rr.com

Randy was a respected member in the Zenith TransoceanicFanatic group on 
yahoo, I'm sure he posted here as well. He will be missed.

-------

Hello,

My name is Christine. I am the widow of Randy Hils who passed away on
April 8, 2006 and was also a member of this (TransoceanicFanatic on 
yahoo) group. In that Randy's death was quite unexpected I find myself 
in the possession of a number of radio's as well as cases and parts. I 
am wondering if any of you can help me to find someone local to us here 
who might help me to sort things out and find proper homes for what was 
his prized collection. We would prefer that it go to people who had the 
same love and interest in these radio's as he had. We live in North 
Florida and a name or number of a knowledgeable person would be greatly 
appreciated.

Sincerely,

Christine

Randy Hils

http://www.440thtroopcarriergroup.org

-------

Shawn K
www.thisoldradio.com


Article: 334615 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com>
Subject: 38-116 output transf?
Message-ID: <a6Qbg.311$W97.160@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 02:18:46 GMT

Ive got it running well except the audio distorts easily, and it doesnt have 
much volume or cone kicking bass.
Output transformer looks like its been changed, and is a bit puny!

Its a 32-7864N when the parts list has a 33-7751 from what I can see.

What should it have?
What should the 32-7864N be found in?

Thanks,

Keith 




Article: 334616 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Dinius
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <126qnv3mkiuo1ce@corp.supernews.com> <lbrbg.255$oA6.212@trnddc06> <126v1o1e7egp1e0@corp.supernews.com> <Q62dnTBIRdDxEvLZRVn-hg@sigecom.net>
Message-ID: <UdQbg.982298$xm3.872060@attbi_s21>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 02:27:00 GMT

In article <Q62dnTBIRdDxEvLZRVn-hg@sigecom.net>, maxbud12@XXXsigecom.net 
says...
>
>
>AMEN BROTHER!!!!
>
>Bruce 
>
>
Double AMEN BROTHER ... please notice that I haven't responded to any
of our three village idiots. Also haven't replied to any of the troll
messages or comments about the trolls. This is and will be my last
comment about these fools.. 

QUIT FEEDING THEM AND THEY WILL LEAVE ....

ZERO RESPONSES

Don't mention them.. 

John k9uwa



Article: 334617 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Why is Scott 800 considered a dog?
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <1148172956.724731.3650@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148176508.873116.233960@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <5oQbg.982312$xm3.147473@attbi_s21>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 02:37:54 GMT

In article <1148176508.873116.233960@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, 
menwagoh@msn.com says...
>
>

>The couple of 800B I've had were just as good as any of the earlier
>models, maybe better. Excellent design, excellent build. Stupendous
>sound.
>
all of what he said... nothing wrong with them other than they
just aren't "desirable" to collectors.. 

John



Article: 334618 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 20:52:23 -0700
Message-ID: <ruov62lc27vpeq65jnti953jj6p9qcgflr@4ax.com>
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <uoOdnTivAPPYEfLZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@sigecom.net> <1148178102.686589.8060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>

On 20 May 2006 19:21:42 -0700, "CAINE" <bb69@epix.net> wrote:

>good point- and in reality, we all have a finite time left. <snip>

....and your end time is drawing nearer than you think....Noodles.


Article: 334619 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 20:54:01 -0700
Message-ID: <11pv62t529bovn7u4dvfmvgt69oh4bbdeu@4ax.com>
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net>   <uoOdnTivAPPYEfLZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@sigecom.net>   <1148178102.686589.8060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>   <A5adnXAJ04_FUvLZRVn-ig@comcast.com> <1148178824.976530.58830@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <P9qdnY2r_urZSvLZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com>

On Sat, 20 May 2006 19:58:14 -0700, "graham" <grahamiba@comcast.net>
wrote:

>... that would be a 'panty waist' ... leave it to you to
>    get everything wrong ... <snip>

Actually, that's an improvement for Noodles.  He used to quote it as
"panzy waist".  See his Google Group that he can no longer access
because his account was terminated for proof.


Article: 334620 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Bendix 1970/71 Cuda Schematic
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 20:49:37 -0700
Message-ID: <7nov62tqnn7ju03ii1jiv73pntqbc1che4@4ax.com>
References: <e4nb0801auk@drn.newsguy.com> <e4nfbu01lmb@drn.newsguy.com> <446F45D5.257D809@earthlink.net> <e4nkak022ap@drn.newsguy.com> <446FB252.E5A013B7@earthlink.net> <e4odrk014hn@drn.newsguy.com>

On 20 May 2006 17:56:20 -0700, Verne Folk
<radioactive@zoominternet.net> wrote:

>In article <446FB252.E5A013B7@earthlink.net>, Michael A. Terrell says...

>Michael:  I don't have any info on this unit but would appreciate any help with
>alignment instructions.  Thank you, verne <snip>

He's right about having the right antenna load on it to set up the RF.
Most Sams will give a schemo for a "quick-n-dirty" coupler to load the
RF stage correctly for alignment.  I know from experience if you don't
use this (or something very close), your alignment will go to crap
once it's looking at the whip and cable in the car.


Article: 334621 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 22:43:40 -0600
Message-ID: <28217-446FEFFC-126@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net>
References: <11pv62t529bovn7u4dvfmvgt69oh4bbdeu@4ax.com>

Yes .. dont need to even ask just do it .

Why ? because it would turn this back into a radio group and hopfully
all the ``junk`` will go to another place . It would be great to be able
to delete posts or fiter them . 
 



Article: 334622 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Date: Sat, 20 May 2006 22:56:38 -0600
Message-ID: <28215-446FF306-2042@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net>
References: <23819-446F15B3-1473@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net>

Bill said

I FIND THE CONDITIONS HERE TO BE FINE IF YOU WILL JUST IGNORE THE
OCCASIONAL NARE DO WELL,

Occasional ?? are you reading ``this`` group ? That gets hard to do that
when the first 3 to 4 hundred posts are all ``junk`` . Or when almost
every subject gets hijacked by children . 



Article: 334623 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: - exray - <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 01:26:46 -0400
Message-ID: <126vugqgki250d7@corp.supernews.com>
References: <23819-446F15B3-1473@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <28215-446FF306-2042@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net>

Ken G. wrote:

> Bill said
> 
> I FIND THE CONDITIONS HERE TO BE FINE IF YOU WILL JUST IGNORE THE
> OCCASIONAL NARE DO WELL,
> 
> Occasional ?? are you reading ``this`` group ? That gets hard to do that
> when the first 3 to 4 hundred posts are all ``junk`` . Or when almost
> every subject gets hijacked by children . 
> 
Ken, if you would get that "computer" working you wouldn't see all that 
crap.  (At least until they start emailing you directly under fake 
names).  If I was stuck with Google or WebTV I'd be long gone from here.

-Bill


Article: 334624 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Rune" <rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com>
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <126sue0ejo5iucc@corp.supernews.com> <Cevbg.74245$F_3.53851@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <126t4rkfunjiu9d@corp.supernews.com> <mOMbg.1362$sb7.995@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com> <XIPbg.5000$G95.1014@tornado.socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Message-ID: <NLUbg.9216$fj6.5215@news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 07:36:13 GMT

"The September That Never Ended" was something, wasn't it?

I hear AOL has dropped newsgroups. Maybe that explains the drop in spam the 
last year. Partly anyway.

Ray

"Jeffrey D Angus" <jangus@socal.rr.com> wrote in message 
news:XIPbg.5000$G95.1014@tornado.socal.rr.com...
> Rune wrote:
>
>> It was when the doors were opened by public graphical services (point and 
>> shoot, so to speak) that the slobs appeared en masse. AOL's entry was a 
>> watershed.
>
> As I've said before, and I'll say it again.
> "On the internet, it's always September somewhere."
> (Shortly after AOL joined the fray and opened the floodgates.)
>
> Jeff
>
>
> -- 
> RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to
> the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal
> force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED
> under the Internal Security Act of 1950. 




Article: 334625 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: 10706NB by Rockwell or Teledyne - Single Audio Amplifier metal case, 10 PIN
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 01:21:00 -0700
Message-ID: <rurv625oq22id8fmil6bdg819et0ht1gau@4ax.com>
References: <1147855020.952838.141100@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 17 May 2006 01:37:01 -0700, groundgrunge@hotmail.it wrote:

>Hello,
>
>does anybody have a reference for the pin numbering of this component ?
>
>10706NB (by Rockwell or Teledyne)
>Single Audio Amplifier 
>metal case, 10 PIN 

This is sounding very much like the Teledyne FETrons of the '70s, but
they were direct plug-in replacements for various common tubes.   The
numbering doesn't seem to fit, though.  Is it a small metal can with
gold pins, and are you sure it's ten, not nine or twelve?  I think I
still have some FETrons out in the junk pile.


Article: 334626 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "lemonhead" <ritterfan@yahoo.com>
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 07:15:39 -0400
Message-ID: <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com>


"Lisa Simpson" <none@none.com> wrote in message
news:vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> Just returned from the Dayton HamFest; only found a coupla SW receivers
for
> sale, used, high-ish prices; quite a few old tube receivers way
overpriced,
> and of course the new ones at normal to slightly high prices.
> Disappointing.

I was there for 4 hours on Saturday.
Nothing but old test equipment and computer junk.
Only reason to go anymore is to meet people, albeit an
expensive one. Never again will I goto Dayton.
It's day has ended, period. E-Bay and private ad's on places like
QRZ.com have killed it. Not worth the effort anymore.



Article: 334627 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" <kc4yoy@NOSPAM.carolina.rr.com>
References: <1148172956.724731.3650@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148176508.873116.233960@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5oQbg.982312$xm3.147473@attbi_s21> <KoOdnR9YsPcJYvLZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: Why is Scott 800 considered a dog?
Message-ID: <aCZbg.7149$JW5.6412@southeast.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 13:07:18 GMT

> Like the mention before of "how many radios have been on
> Antiques Roadshow?"  not many.
>

I've been watching Antique Roadshow since it first came
on and as far as I know the only radio featured
was the Trophy Baseball radio that was on just in the
last few weeks. It's not like there haven't been radios
there for them to talk about, I've seen a bunch of radios
and horn speakers in shots of the crowd at a roadshow.
They just don't think they're worth showing.
Before they came to Charlotte a few years ago I sent them
photos of my collection and offered to bring out some interesting vintage
sets.
They didn't even reply...

Ron

--

Radio Collection Web Page,
http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com





Article: 334628 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: It's done.  It's UGLY.. but it's done
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 22:38:16 +0900
Message-ID: <e4pqcl$9jd$1@news2.kornet.net>

http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/completesx25.jpg

Maybe if I keep it long enough, I'll strip everything off the sockets and 
solder ties and start from scratch.. but for now, the radio is working and 
sounding much better. Should be top drawer when the new tubes come in. 




From adouglasatgis.net Mon May 22 21:18:39 EDT 2006
Article: 334629 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Alan Douglas <adouglasatgis.net>
Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Why did E.H. Scott used aluminum shields?
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:29:38 -0400
Organization: NewsGuy.Com 30Gb $9.95 Carry Forward and On Demand Bandwidth
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Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:334629

Hi,
   Any conductive material will provide electrostatic and
electromagnetic shielding.  The degree of magnetic shielding depends
on conductivity and frequency.

   Drawn-aluminum shields were in common use by 1930 and were probably
the best compromise for cost, appearance, and availability.

Alan


Article: 334630 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: It's done.  It's UGLY.. but it's done
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:27:26 -0500
Message-ID: <23154-447078CE-1368@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net>
References: <e4pqcl$9jd$1@news2.kornet.net>

Yeah man,,,, Top Dollar.Looks like one of my old lawn mowers I stripped
out a few years ago.
cuhulin



Article: 334631 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Why is Scott 800 considered a dog?
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:34:30 -0500
Message-ID: <23154-44707A76-1370@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net>
References: <aCZbg.7149$JW5.6412@southeast.rr.com>

Antiques Roadshow.I want that Irish Road Bowling painting they once
showed on there a few years ago.
cuhulin 



Article: 334632 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:37:32 -0500
Message-ID: <23154-44707B2C-1371@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net>
References: <44706167.51D6E796@earthlink.net>

Dayton,sounds kind of like the Flowers Fleamarket that used to be ten
miles East of Vicksburg.
cuhulin



Article: 334633 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:38:30 -0500
Message-ID: <23154-44707B66-1372@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net>
References: <44706167.51D6E796@earthlink.net>

Terrell,new radios Suck!
cuhulin



Article: 334634 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Why is Scott 800 considered a dog?
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:32:26 -0500
Message-ID: <23155-447079FA-309@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net>
References: <aCZbg.7149$JW5.6412@southeast.rr.com>

My eight years older brother (God rest his soul) once brought a Scott
Radio home.I remember him (in 1948) up on the roof of our house on
Nimitz Ave,stringing up some wire.
cuhulin



Article: 334635 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com>
References: <1148172956.724731.3650@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148176508.873116.233960@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5oQbg.982312$xm3.147473@attbi_s21> <KoOdnR9YsPcJYvLZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: Why is Scott 800 considered a dog?
Message-ID: <Wx%bg.345$W97.92@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 15:19:18 GMT

One of the things I love in my Restoration of consoles is the reaction of 
the average public when they see them, and although I only have the time 
(and room) to do a half dozen or so a year I know that when they leave they 
will be cherished forever, no more trips from auction to auction or show to 
show anymore, just a nice special spot in someones living room where they no 
doubt began life.  I often wonder if one will show up on Antiques Roadshow 
one day?  I did see a nice black dial Zenith get looked over by an "expert" 
on one of the clone shows, and the "expert" knew NOTHING about the radio!

Keith
>
> Its sad that the general public never gets to see all the neat stuff we 
> have
> in radio...   all the sets get hauled to our shows only, and dont get as
> much $$ there.  Like the mention before of "how many radios have been on
> Antiques Roadshow?"  not many.
>
> Mark Oppat
>
>




Article: 334636 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Beerbarrel <beerbarrel@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Message-ID: <3c1172dul8qq1gndqicgsc6h6ptgb7oucq@4ax.com>
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <7j2u6216giqf19gdl79gfjkbii1ejdb46j@4ax.com> <1148155306.716978.120650@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148161376.475826.181100@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 11:22:34 -0400

On 20 May 2006 14:42:56 -0700, "CAINE" <bb69@epix.net> wrote:


>
>I've seen dog shit with more intelligence than you guys.


Is that your thing? Looking at dogshit....
__________________________________________________________

KE4ODD

Service to my country? Me too and I've got my DD214 and 5 point veteran preference to
prove it. 


*Used with express written permission of its creator.


Article: 334637 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com>
References: <WAPbg.1922$8G3.1650@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <LIadnS1cW7IEY_LZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 Question
Message-ID: <yB%bg.346$W97.250@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 15:23:10 GMT

Yes it is, and im beginning to wonder if my total lack of Bass from what 
seems likely to be the WRONG output transformer might be the underlying 
cause anyway.  The one on there IS rivited on but the leads are spliced on, 
and it doesnt match the part number on the parts list.

Rainy and cold today, So ill have a chance to noodle with it some more.

Keith


"Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message 
news:LIadnS1cW7IEY_LZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com...
> it might make more difference at different volume levels.  IIRC the tone
> control is tied also to the loudness tap on the VC...???
>
> Mark Oppat
>
>
>
> "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:WAPbg.1922$8G3.1650@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> Ive got it up and running, but the bass switch (on the the on/off switch)
>> seems rather ineffective.
>> Do they really work or dont they make much difference?
>>
>> Its recapped and looks to be wired right.
>>
>> Thanks.,
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 




Article: 334638 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 10:36:40 -0500
Message-ID: <21360-44708908-1572@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net>
References: <XIPbg.5000$G95.1014@tornado.socal.rr.com>

And I keep thinking that married woman's birthday wayyyy over yonder
across the big pond,is in September    www.ryans.org   and the SEPT does
not mean September) and it's really April 22nd.No wonder I was almost a
month late sending her,her snail mail Happy Birthday card.
cuhulin 



Article: 334639 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Ron <wa0kds@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
Date: 21 May 2006 12:00:35 EDT
Message-ID: <4470901D.7040701@yahoo.com>
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <44706167.51D6E796@earthlink.net>

I have only been to Dayton once and found it interesting. If I was 
within 200 miles I would probably go there every year but being on the 
other side of the country once will have to do.  The Flea Market is nice 
but that cannot be the only reason for one to go to Dayton.  There are 
numerous other activities going on all the time and I believe if one 
goes to Dayton they should make them the main priority instead of the 
Flea Market. Almost anything can be bought online nowadays so to go to 
Dayton to haul home a car full of junk just doesn't make since anymore. 
  So how about a Dayton without a Flea Market ?  Are we all so  much 
into the Junk of our Hobby that we forgot the human element?

Just my two cent worth.

Ron  WA0KDS


Article: 334640 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 11:03:22 -0500
Message-ID: <21360-44708F4A-1573@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net>
References: <3c1172dul8qq1gndqicgsc6h6ptgb7oucq@4ax.com>

y'all won't find any bogs or swamps around here.There is a little baby
barefoot boy next door to me in a diaper.y'all don't want to mess around
with him.
cuhulin 



Article: 334641 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Why is Scott 800 considered a dog?
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 11:08:59 -0500
Message-ID: <21360-4470909B-1574@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net>
References: <Wx%bg.345$W97.92@twister.nyroc.rr.com>

Because I am Stotch Irish by Ancestry,,,, that's WHY.
cuhulin 



Article: 334642 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Why is Scott 800 considered a dog?
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 11:12:38 -0500
Message-ID: <21360-44709176-1575@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net>
References: <Wx%bg.345$W97.92@twister.nyroc.rr.com>

Zenith never did make anything any good.I worked at a stupid Zenith
factory in Melrose Park,Illinois in 1960.Zenith is Crap!
cuhulin



Article: 334643 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: It's done.  It's UGLY.. but it's done
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 09:41:24 -0700
Message-ID: <r05172hdn48952vs1hpam8ndsokb2koq6p@4ax.com>
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On Sun, 21 May 2006 22:38:16 +0900, "Brenda Ann"
<brendad@shinbiro.com> wrote:

>http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/completesx25.jpg
>
>Maybe if I keep it long enough, I'll strip everything off the sockets and 
>solder ties and start from scratch.. but for now, the radio is working and 
>sounding much better. Should be top drawer when the new tubes come in. <snip>

BS about it being ugly...there's some good work in there.


Article: 334644 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Lisa Simpson" <none@none.com>
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <44706167.51D6E796@earthlink.net> <4470901D.7040701@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
Message-ID: <rs1cg.30102$YI5.10862@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 17:29:59 GMT

I used to go many years ago when CP/M computer were just on the edge of
being overtaken by DOS v.1; they had a LOT of good stuff then, but that was
before ebay, etc. too . . .

"Ron" <wa0kds@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:4470901D.7040701@yahoo.com...
> I have only been to Dayton once and found it interesting. If I was
> within 200 miles I would probably go there every year but being on the
> other side of the country once will have to do.  The Flea Market is nice
> but that cannot be the only reason for one to go to Dayton.  There are
> numerous other activities going on all the time and I believe if one
> goes to Dayton they should make them the main priority instead of the
> Flea Market. Almost anything can be bought online nowadays so to go to
> Dayton to haul home a car full of junk just doesn't make since anymore.
>   So how about a Dayton without a Flea Market ?  Are we all so  much
> into the Junk of our Hobby that we forgot the human element?
>
> Just my two cent worth.
>
> Ron  WA0KDS




Article: 334645 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" <kc4yoy@NOSPAM.carolina.rr.com>
Subject: Magnavox battery set
Message-ID: <rb1cg.7168$JW5.6057@southeast.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 17:11:51 GMT

I picked up a neat little Magnavox battery set at the
CC-AWA Spencer Swap meet yesterday.

Photos are on the binaries page.
Check'em out.

Ron

--

Radio Collection Web Page,
http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com





From adouglasatgis.net Mon May 22 21:18:40 EDT 2006
Article: 334646 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Alan Douglas <adouglasatgis.net>
Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Why did E.H. Scott used aluminum shields?
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 15:55:37 -0400
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Hi,

>>>> Any conductive material will provide electrostatic and
>>>> electromagnetic shielding. The degree of magnetic
>>>> shielding depends on conductivity and frequency.
>
>>> Not so. Magnetic shielding varies with the permeability of the
>>> material. Aluminum does not shield against magnetic fields.
>
>> You might want to do just the slightest bit of reseach on this topic.
>> Start out with someone like Terman or Langford-Smith. They have
>> published many books that disagree with your position.
>
>Sorry, but aluminum does not block magnetic fields. It can't, because it has
>essentially zero permeability.
>
>Try putting a sheet of aluminum foil -- or an aluminum frying pan for that
>matter -- between a magnet and an iron object.

I did say "frequency" didn't I?  A stationary magnetic field is zero
frequency, neglecting the changing field when you placed the magnet.

Alan


Article: 334647 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jim Mueller <wrongname@nospam.com>
Subject: Re: Why did E.H. Scott used aluminum shields?
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 15:07:31 -0700
Message-ID: <pan.2006.05.21.22.07.30.711158@nospam.com>
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On Sun, 21 May 2006 14:18:53 -0700, William Sommerwerck wrote:

>> >>>> Any conductive material will provide electrostatic and
>> >>>> electromagnetic shielding. The degree of magnetic
>> >>>> shielding depends on conductivity and frequency.
> 
>> >>> Not so. Magnetic shielding varies with the permeability of the
>> >>> material. Aluminum does not shield against magnetic fields.
> 
>> >> You might want to do just the slightest bit of reseach on this topic.
>> >> Start out with someone like Terman or Langford-Smith. They have
>> >> published many books that disagree with your position.
> 
>> >Sorry, but aluminum does not block magnetic fields. It can't, because it
> has
>> >essentially zero permeability.
>> >Try putting a sheet of aluminum foil -- or an aluminum frying pan for
> that
>> >matter -- between a magnet and an iron object.
> 
>> I did say "frequency" didn't I?  A stationary magnetic field is zero
>> frequency, neglecting the changing field when you placed the magnet.
> 
> You said "magnetic shielding" (see above), not "electromagnetic shielding".
> Not the same thing.

Magnetism is magnetism no matter what the source, the only difference is
the frequency.  You can make an alternating magnetic field using a
permanent magnet simply by spinning it.  You need to use magnetic
material for low frequency shields to "bypass" or "guide" the field around
your sensitive object.  On the other hand, conductive, non-magnetic
material works fine for high frequency shields.  The alternating magnetic
field induces currents in the shield that generate their own magnetic
field and "cancel" the external field when viewed from inside the shield.
How well it works depends on the frequency and conductivity of the shield
material.
-- 
Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com

To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz.
Then replace nospam with sacbeemail.


Article: 334648 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner)
Subject: Re: 1U6 sub for 1L6 in a 600-Series Zenith T/O
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 17:01:06 -0500
Message-ID: <24025-4470E322-1585@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1S3cg.5312$y4.3149@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>

RATHER THAN CHANGE ALL THE TUBES IN A RADIO OR PUTTING A RESISTOR IN
PARALLEL WITH THE FILAMENT OF ONE, WHY NOT JUST REPLACE ONE TUBE WITH AN
ADAPTOR.  IT IS FAR MORE INEXPENSIVE AND WORKS AS WELL.


CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com
Bill Turner, excuse  caps, short answers, stroke.
Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide.  






Article: 334649 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner)
Subject: Re: Why is Scott 800 considered a dog?
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 17:13:45 -0500
Message-ID: <24025-4470E619-1587@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net>
References: <aCZbg.7149$JW5.6412@southeast.rr.com>

I OFFERED TO BRING A COPPER POCKET WATCH DRIVEN BY A MICROSCOPIC BICYCLE
CHAIN THAT WAS GIVEN TO MY GREAT, GREAT, GREAT. GRANDFATHER IN 1776 BY
GEORGE III OF BRITAIN AND GOT THE SAME RESPONSE.


CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com
Bill Turner, excuse  caps, short answers, stroke.
Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide.  






Article: 334650 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com>
References: <WAPbg.1922$8G3.1650@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <LIadnS1cW7IEY_LZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com> <yB%bg.346$W97.250@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <zaSdnaRh6ZqCee3ZRVn-pw@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 Question
Message-ID: <NY5cg.2012$8G3.1066@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 22:37:33 GMT

Yes!  if thats the case.  If you or anybody else has a 37 or 38-116 and can 
peek in the back and let me know what the part number is on the output 
transformer that will help solve the mystery.

Thanks,

Keith

"Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message 
news:zaSdnaRh6ZqCee3ZRVn-pw@comcast.com...
> you may have a 37-116 speaker!   I just had this conversation with a MARC
> member yesterday... he has a 37-116 chassis and a 38-116 speaker,  and 
> this
> all is going in a 38-116 box.   He didnt realize the 37 chassis was set up
> for either 6A5 (less commonly found, large pin tubes) or the now pricey 
> 6B4
> octals,  whereas the '38 set used 6L6G's.
> You guys might want to trade speakers...???
>
> Mark Oppat
>
>
>
> "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:yB%bg.346$W97.250@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> Yes it is, and im beginning to wonder if my total lack of Bass from what
>> seems likely to be the WRONG output transformer might be the underlying
>> cause anyway.  The one on there IS rivited on but the leads are spliced
> on,
>> and it doesnt match the part number on the parts list.
>>
>> Rainy and cold today, So ill have a chance to noodle with it some more.
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> "Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message
>> news:LIadnS1cW7IEY_LZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> > it might make more difference at different volume levels.  IIRC the 
>> > tone
>> > control is tied also to the loudness tap on the VC...???
>> >
>> > Mark Oppat
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com> wrote in message
>> > news:WAPbg.1922$8G3.1650@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> >> Ive got it up and running, but the bass switch (on the the on/off
> switch)
>> >> seems rather ineffective.
>> >> Do they really work or dont they make much difference?
>> >>
>> >> Its recapped and looks to be wired right.
>> >>
>> >> Thanks.,
>> >>
>> >> Keith
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 




Article: 334651 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: It's done. It's UGLY.. but it's done
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 08:10:16 +0900
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"AuroraOldRadios" <menwagoh@msn.com> wrote in message 
news:1148223991.300227.23410@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> There's a lot of caps in there.

And a lot more resistors...




Article: 334652 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: It's done.  It's UGLY.. but it's done
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 08:41:31 +0900
Message-ID: <e4qtnk$l21$1@news2.kornet.net>
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"Theresa McCarty" <spikewilliams@qx.net> wrote in message 
news:XqSdnXFNMLAFEu3ZnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@qx.net...
>    that's the SX-25 Super Defiant, right?
>    Very pretty, those red caps look MUCH nicer than the green 600v mylars 
> I briefly thought of using.
>    did you use caps of different Voltages?

Yep, that's my baby..

Nope, I used all 630 volt caps.  I had to put two in series for the cap 
across the output transformer. That was one of two that were rated at 1500 
volts (vibrator caps).  The other was in a weird spot that never sees any 
voltage: the tone control. That one got a 630 volt.





Article: 334653 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Steve Phipps" <kawninja@nospam.cableone.net>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 19:01:41 -0500
Message-ID: <1271vr5mluc7pd3@corp.supernews.com>
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com>

Saturday is the worst day to attend Dayton. With all hamfests, the best 
deals are either sold during dealer setup before the hamfest or during the 
first few minutes the hamfest opens. Some folks who don't intend to sell buy 
vendor passes to shop early. If you attend hamfests to buy and you can't be 
there when the doors open, you might as well stay home.

Well run hamfests do have good deals that rival or beat Ebay hands down. I 
usually come home from good hamfests with an item or two that made my trip 
worthwhile. Then there's hamfests held year after year in the same poor rut 
that makes you wonder why the sponsors even bother...

"lemonhead" <ritterfan@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com...

> I was there for 4 hours on Saturday.
> Nothing but old test equipment and computer junk.




Article: 334654 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "J. Mc Laughlin" <jcm@power-net.net>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 20:47:55 -0400
Message-ID: <12722gkh96okq35@corp.supernews.com>
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Once upon a time, one could talk with designers/engineers and find some
useful bargains.  It was interesting and much anticipated in spite of the
pain every year to find a room.  The attendees were of all ages.
    A couple of years ago, my EE department thought to have a booth with an
eye to student recruitment.  Head of the department has kin in Dayton and
attended when visiting.  He concluded that a booth made no sense.  Looking
at the pictures of this year's attendees makes it clear that he was right.
    Dayton's time has come and gone.  A shame.
        73   Mac    N8TT





From adouglasatgis.net Mon May 22 21:18:41 EDT 2006
Article: 334655 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Alan Douglas <adouglasatgis.net>
Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Why did E.H. Scott used aluminum shields?
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Hi,

>> >>>> Any conductive material will provide electrostatic and
>> >>>> electromagnetic shielding. The degree of magnetic
>> >>>> shielding depends on conductivity and frequency.
>
>> >>> Not so. Magnetic shielding varies with the permeability of the
>> >>> material. Aluminum does not shield against magnetic fields.
>
>> >> You might want to do just the slightest bit of reseach on this topic.
>> >> Start out with someone like Terman or Langford-Smith. They have
>> >> published many books that disagree with your position.
>
>> >Sorry, but aluminum does not block magnetic fields. It can't, because it
>has
>> >essentially zero permeability.
>> >Try putting a sheet of aluminum foil -- or an aluminum frying pan for
>that
>> >matter -- between a magnet and an iron object.
>
>> I did say "frequency" didn't I?  A stationary magnetic field is zero
>> frequency, neglecting the changing field when you placed the magnet.
>
>You said "magnetic shielding" (see above), not "electromagnetic shielding".
>Not the same thing.

   Hello?   I deliberately  wrote "electromagnetic."  But it actually
doesn't matter.  A *perfect* conductor will block any magnetic field.
There is (at the limit) no such thing as a static magnetic field. The
magnet had to be placed in position at some time.

Alan


Article: 334656 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Mike <me@here.net>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 21:20:43 -0400
Message-ID: <me-5332F5.21204321052006@news.supernews.com>
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In article <12722gkh96okq35@corp.supernews.com>,
 "J. Mc Laughlin" <jcm@power-net.net> wrote:

> Once upon a time, one could talk with designers/engineers and find some

<snip>

>     Dayton's time has come and gone.  A shame.

Kinda like short wave radio in general.   Which is also a shame.

Mike


Article: 334657 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard)
Subject: Re: 1U6 sub for 1L6 in a 600-Series Zenith T/O
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 18:38:06 -0700
Message-ID: <3898-447115FE-851@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1S3cg.5312$y4.3149@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>

>From Robert Casey:

>You'd need to change out the 50A1 to 
>something that provides the 25ma from 
>the line generated B+.

OR, you could parallel the filament string with an equivalent
resistance, so 25ma is going thru the fils and 25ma is going thru the
paralleled resistor. That way, the 50A1 and its regulation feature would
remain unaltered.

And Bill T. said:

>RATHER THAN CHANGE ALL THE 
>TUBES IN A RADIO OR PUTTING A 
>RESISTOR IN PARALLEL WITH THE 
>FILAMENT OF ONE, WHY NOT JUST 
>REPLACE ONE TUBE WITH AN 
>ADAPTOR. IT IS FAR MORE 
>INEXPENSIVE AND WORKS AS WELL.

Good point, Bill. 
              Hey you're sounding in good form. Great to see you back. 

Bill(oc)



Article: 334658 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 21:46:27 -0400
Message-ID: <12725vt81v3bfbd@corp.supernews.com>
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Am I correct this Hamfest costs a lot of money to attend as well?

John H. 




Article: 334659 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Benjamaniac" <benjamaniac@yahoo.com>
Subject: National NC-2-40cs Parts Needed
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 19:52:15 -0600
Message-ID: <e4r5ga$2g9t$1@news3.infoave.net>

Looking for a knob for a National NC-2-40CS and also would like to find a
picture of the matching speaker (NC-2TS) so I can see if the one I have is
missing any trim...it looks like it is to me. Thanks for any help on these
things.
                 Ben




Article: 334660 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Re: 38-116 output transf?
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 21:56:38 -0400
Message-ID: <12726j1h4trm0d2@corp.supernews.com>
References: <a6Qbg.311$W97.160@twister.nyroc.rr.com>

 Shouldn't have asked here; output transformer talk gets electrical engineer 
types into complex endless discussion of direct and reflected impedance. 
Impedance makes my head hurt. I want an autoranging meter- you stick it on 
the coil and it reads impedance. Instead we have ludicrous stuff like the DC 
resistance is 100 ohms and the impedance is 35,000 ohms but you have to have 
a Wheatstone Bridge and cyclotron to measure it.. Or maybe it's 230 DC and 
12,000 AC - who knows ? Is there ANY relation?

I just use the biggest ranny I can find in the junkbox, or in your case i'd 
buy one from AES and make SURE you spend AT LEAST $40- if you want bass. Try 
not to think about it too much, as long as impedance is close it will work 
GREAT, not just okay.

John H.





Article: 334661 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Lisa Simpson" <none@none.com>
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Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
Message-ID: <m39cg.36461$mh.27894@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 02:09:22 GMT

It was $25/person this year, parking $8/day.

"Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net> wrote in message
news:12725vt81v3bfbd@corp.supernews.com...
> Am I correct this Hamfest costs a lot of money to attend as well?
>
> John H.
>
>




Article: 334662 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 21:03:19 -0500
Message-ID: <12369-44711BE7-1796@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
References: <4470901D.7040701@yahoo.com>

Awwww,I like Dayton,Ohio.I like Ohio.I have been to Cincy town twice
before.I have never been to Dayton before,but I like Dayton.No need to
get all discombooberated about it.
cuhulin



Article: 334663 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 Question
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <WAPbg.1922$8G3.1650@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <LIadnS1cW7IEY_LZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com> <yB%bg.346$W97.250@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <zaSdnaRh6ZqCee3ZRVn-pw@comcast.com>
Message-ID: <xk9cg.741430$084.732650@attbi_s22>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 02:27:41 GMT

In article <zaSdnaRh6ZqCee3ZRVn-pw@comcast.com>, moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet 
says...
>
>
>or the now pricey 6B4 octals,  whereas the '38 set used 6L6G's.
>You guys might want to trade speakers...???
>
>Mark Oppat


Yo Mark .... tell me what you have if you... tie pins 3 and 4 together
and pin 7 to 8 .. and then stuff a 6L6 into a socket for a 6B4 ???

John k9uwa




Article: 334664 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <44706167.51D6E796@earthlink.net> <4470901D.7040701@yahoo.com> <4470989B.9E5689E@earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <6A9cg.983878$xm3.561611@attbi_s21>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 02:44:18 GMT

In article <4470989B.9E5689E@earthlink.net>, mike.terrell@earthlink.net 
says...
>
>
>I did go almost every year from 1970 to 1987, when it was a little over 
>an hour's drive. 
>Michael A. Terrell

Today the Flea at Dayton is less than 1/3 full .. where up until about 2000 
you had to have someone die and will you a flea market space to get into 
the place... too many of us tired of the "Aisle Police" and the "Tent 
Police" and the "Door Police" and the Trotwood Firedept won't let us
do this and that and the other thing... plus the hotels jacking the rates 
of 40 to 60 buck rooms up to 150 a nite with 3 might miniumum... 
Sorry but this was my 2nd year NOT to attend... 
John k9uwa





Article: 334665 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com>
References: <a6Qbg.311$W97.160@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <12726j1h4trm0d2@corp.supernews.com>
Subject: Re: 38-116 output transf?
Message-ID: <EZ9cg.431$W97.283@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 03:11:32 GMT

Uhoh Grab your aspirin John!
I think Ive narrowed it down the the push pull output but not sure its the 
Transformer yet.
One 6L6 removed gives me lower output and motorboating, the opposite one out 
and I get much better output, better bass and less distortion than both of 
them in.  Both tubes have been tested and are quite strong.

Somethings amiss here, and although the output transformer is rivited on it 
looks puny and the part number doesnt match eather the 38 or 37-116 -part 
numbers in riders.

More after I noodle with it a bit more..

Keith


"Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net> wrote in message 
news:12726j1h4trm0d2@corp.supernews.com...
> Shouldn't have asked here; output transformer talk gets electrical 
> engineer types into complex endless discussion of direct and reflected 
> impedance. Impedance makes my head hurt. I want an autoranging meter- you 
> stick it on the coil and it reads impedance. Instead we have ludicrous 
> stuff like the DC resistance is 100 ohms and the impedance is 35,000 ohms 
> but you have to have a Wheatstone Bridge and cyclotron to measure it.. Or 
> maybe it's 230 DC and 12,000 AC - who knows ? Is there ANY relation?
>
> I just use the biggest ranny I can find in the junkbox, or in your case 
> i'd buy one from AES and make SURE you spend AT LEAST $40- if you want 
> bass. Try not to think about it too much, as long as impedance is close it 
> will work GREAT, not just okay.
>
> John H.
>
>
> 




Article: 334666 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: - exray - <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 23:21:39 -0400
Message-ID: <1272bi8t49brr41@corp.supernews.com>
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <12725vt81v3bfbd@corp.supernews.com> <m39cg.36461$mh.27894@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>

Lisa Simpson wrote:

> It was $25/person this year, parking $8/day.

Well, that pretty well kills off the casual attendees that are essential 
to bring fresh blood into the event.

And although the $25 might not put off the hardcore hamfester it does 
put off a lot of the 'regular' people that are the foundation of the 
event.  Add $3 gallon for gas for a guy from Indiana who has a few 
radios to sell and doesn't care if he makes a buck or not on the radio 
but now he's out of pocket some actual cash money.  Much more than 
taking the family to a movie and buying popcorn!
C'est la vie.
I think a lot of these hamfest promoters figger on pricing themselves as 
some sort of 'event' rather than just a big swap meet.  It doesn't seem 
to work that way anymore.

-Bill



Article: 334667 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Murray Neece <radioranch@qth.com>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 22:27:04 -0500
Message-ID: <44712F88.7040100@qth.com>
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <12725vt81v3bfbd@corp.supernews.com> <m39cg.36461$mh.27894@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>

Lisa Simpson wrote:
> It was $25/person this year, parking $8/day.
> 
> "Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net> wrote in message
> news:12725vt81v3bfbd@corp.supernews.com...
>> Am I correct this Hamfest costs a lot of money to attend as well?
>>
>> John H.
>>
>>
> 
> 

Thats not much money for a one of kind event today. Cheap in fact!
Been to a Santana concert lately?  But travel, thats a different story 
now ..Murray


Article: 334668 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Murray Neece <radioranch@qth.com>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay  NOT JUST DAYTON
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 22:30:37 -0500
Message-ID: <4471305D.9090001@qth.com>
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com>

It isnt just Dayton, its nearly all hamfests.  Check out what they are 
doing to Ham Comm in DFW area this year.  48 flea mkt tables vs usually 
about 300!!  They made sure it would fail.

lemonhead wrote:
> "Lisa Simpson" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> news:vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
>> Just returned from the Dayton HamFest; only found a coupla SW receivers
> for
>> sale, used, high-ish prices; quite a few old tube receivers way
> overpriced,
>> and of course the new ones at normal to slightly high prices.
>> Disappointing.
> 
> I was there for 4 hours on Saturday.
> Nothing but old test equipment and computer junk.
> Only reason to go anymore is to meet people, albeit an
> expensive one. Never again will I goto Dayton.
> It's day has ended, period. E-Bay and private ad's on places like
> QRZ.com have killed it. Not worth the effort anymore.
> 


Article: 334669 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: robert casey <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: 38-116 output transf?
References: <a6Qbg.311$W97.160@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Message-ID: <hgacg.6128$y4.2967@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 03:31:25 GMT

Keith Park wrote:
> Ive got it running well except the audio distorts easily, and it doesnt have 
> much volume or cone kicking bass.
> Output transformer looks like its been changed, and is a bit puny!
> 
> Its a 32-7864N when the parts list has a 33-7751 from what I can see.
> 
> What should it have?

In the RCA tube manual, for push-pull with B+ around 250V it wants 5000 
ohms impedance plate to plate.  As for what the secondary of a 
replacement transformer should be, measure with an ohmmeter the speaker 
and multiply by 1.2 and that would be quite close.  It's not that 
critical.  But maybe it's not the transformer...

Check that the audio signals feeding the output tube grids are okay. 
I've had an Emerson radio with push-pull output where one of the 
resistors on the plate of the driver triode went way up in value, and 
made for distorted audio.  Went from 470K to 880K.  Replaced it and it 
sounded a lot better.


Article: 334670 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 22:28:31 -0500
Message-ID: <12369-44712FDF-1808@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
References: <6A9cg.983878$xm3.561611@attbi_s21>

Meeeowrrrrr,,,,,,
cuhulin



Article: 334671 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" <nobody@nowhere.com>
Subject: nearly free if you want it - phone board with 7230 chip (in socket) 
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 20:51:31 -0700
Message-ID: <r6d27217ujqkn5nt2jvhglrhok5qp27cg9@4ax.com>

just tossed out a early generation touch tone phone, saved this
circuit board that has the tone chip and a bunch of discretes - if you
want it, pay postage - $1.50 - and contact me off the list - someone
in the last year was bemoaning not being able to find this stuff...
Bill

www.wbnoble.com

to contact me, do not reply to this message, 
instead correct this address and use it

will iam_  b_   No  ble   at  msn  daught   com

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Article: 334672 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: - exray - <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: 38-116 output transf?
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 23:56:52 -0400
Message-ID: <1272dkcc3prgsae@corp.supernews.com>
References: <a6Qbg.311$W97.160@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <hgacg.6128$y4.2967@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>

robert casey wrote:

> Keith Park wrote:
> 
>> Ive got it running well except the audio distorts easily, and it 
>> doesnt have much volume or cone kicking bass.
>> Output transformer looks like its been changed, and is a bit puny!
>>
>> Its a 32-7864N when the parts list has a 33-7751 from what I can see.
>>
>> What should it have?
> 
> 
> In the RCA tube manual, for push-pull with B+ around 250V it wants 5000 
> ohms impedance plate to plate.  As for what the secondary of a 
> replacement transformer should be, measure with an ohmmeter the speaker 
> and multiply by 1.2 and that would be quite close.  It's not that 
> critical.  But maybe it's not the transformer...
> 
> Check that the audio signals feeding the output tube grids are okay. 
> I've had an Emerson radio with push-pull output where one of the 
> resistors on the plate of the driver triode went way up in value, and 
> made for distorted audio.  Went from 470K to 880K.  Replaced it and it 
> sounded a lot better.

If you are digging thru a box of old vintage trafos blindfolded its 
relatively difficult to reach in and grab one that would really be so 
far out of anticipated spec to inhibit volume/bass in the way that you 
describe.
Could be...but I'd also consider a half-frozen speaker cone and/or bad 
things in the det/1st audio to be at least equally as likely.

-Bill


Article: 334673 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay  NOT JUST DAYTON
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 23:21:55 -0500
Message-ID: <12371-44713C63-127@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
References: <4471305D.9090001@qth.com>

You said that at rec.radio.shortwave news group thangy.
cuhulin



Article: 334674 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Why is Scott 800 considered a dog?
Date: Sun, 21 May 2006 23:30:48 -0500
Message-ID: <12369-44713E78-1824@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net>
References: <24025-4470E619-1587@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net>

Believe it or not,,, I do own an old pocket watch that is hinged and
opens in three places (just like little doors) and it does have a tiny
little bitty chain that looks just like a miniature bicycle chain.
cuhulin



Article: 334675 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:23:07 +1000
From: spears <ester@talk21.com>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <44706167.51D6E796@earthlink.net> <4470901D.7040701@yahoo.com> <4470989B.9E5689E@earthlink.net> <12722gkh96okq35@corp.supernews.com> <me-5332F5.21204321052006@news.supernews.com>
Message-ID: <447158cc_1@news.iprimus.com.au>

Mike wrote:
> In article <12722gkh96okq35@corp.supernews.com>,
>  "J. Mc Laughlin" <jcm@power-net.net> wrote:
> 
>> Once upon a time, one could talk with designers/engineers and find some
> 
> <snip>
> 
>>     Dayton's time has come and gone.  A shame.
> 
> Kinda like short wave radio in general.   Which is also a shame.
> 
> Mike
The number of new products released tells it all. Whats new, absolutely 
nothing.

The worst part is the  price of all this old junk, some people think 
buying old junk should cost more than gold nuggets or close to new 
prices. Collins mania must have spread into old junk parts. Amps parts 
especially!

The biggest joke was RF parts like vacuum variables, "what you want $200 
a piece with no warranty! Same comments apply to tubes. You might as 
well buy new or from one of the reputable dealers who will give your 
money back if its a dud.


Article: 334676 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 Question
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <WAPbg.1922$8G3.1650@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <LIadnS1cW7IEY_LZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com> <yB%bg.346$W97.250@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <zaSdnaRh6ZqCee3ZRVn-pw@comcast.com> <xk9cg.741430$084.732650@attbi_s22> <cfGdnTFpGIqv3uzZ4p2dnA@comcast.com>
Message-ID: <rldcg.741805$084.15795@attbi_s22>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 07:01:43 GMT

In article <cfGdnTFpGIqv3uzZ4p2dnA@comcast.com>, moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet 
says...
>
>
>yep, a TRIODE!   However,  what plate impedance?
>When you run a 6L6 triode mode, how does the impedance change?
>
>Mark Oppat


beats me... I am not an engineer... just an old hack that messes with
stuff till it works and sounds good... 6L6's make good replacements
for 50's ... should be fine for a 6B4 also... 

I just hope Jerry doesn't mess up the litics replacement in that
thing... I told him what to do.. and sent pictures .. 

John k9uwa




Article: 334677 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Nelson Gietz" <ngietz@mts.net>
References: <WAPbg.1922$8G3.1650@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <LIadnS1cW7IEY_LZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com> <yB%bg.346$W97.250@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <zaSdnaRh6ZqCee3ZRVn-pw@comcast.com> <NY5cg.2012$8G3.1066@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 Question
Message-ID: <Yzdcg.1201$hq2.771@newsfe22.lga>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 02:18:56 -0500


"Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com> wrote in message
news:NY5cg.2012$8G3.1066@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Yes!  if thats the case.  If you or anybody else has a 37 or 38-116 and
can
> peek in the back and let me know what the part number is on the output
> transformer that will help solve the mystery.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Keith

Keith,
I have a 38-C116 here (Canadian version, I think.)
The output transformer mounted on the speaker is marked:
7897C
 5-37

I notice the part number given in the parts list is 33-7751 (if I'm reading
this scruffy
scan correctly.)
-hope that helps.
Cheers,
Nelson




Article: 334678 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jeffrey D Angus <jangus@socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Why is Scott 800 considered a dog?
References: <aCZbg.7149$JW5.6412@southeast.rr.com>   <24025-4470E619-1587@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> <1148294930.018772.275050@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <DQgcg.3856$9W5.2154@tornado.socal.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 10:59:47 GMT

Peter Wieck wrote:

> Mostly key-wind and key-set, no stem due to the need for bevel-gears,
> again something that came leter. 

I have my great grandfather's pocket watch, it's a keywind as well.

Jeff

-- 
RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to
the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal
force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED
under the Internal Security Act of 1950.


Article: 334679 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: - exray - <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 09:16:37 -0400
Message-ID: <1273edpa45sesbf@corp.supernews.com>
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>   <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com>   <12725vt81v3bfbd@corp.supernews.com>   <m39cg.36461$mh.27894@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>   <1272bi8t49brr41@corp.supernews.com> <1148303328.188694.156120@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

Phil wrote:
> -
> 
>>event.  Add $3 gallon for gas for a guy from Indiana who has a few
>>-Bill
> 
> 
> Cheap at the price. UK (England) now at the equivalent of $8 a (US)
> gallon....
> 

And its a helluva long drive to to Dayton.

-Bill



Article: 334680 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Why is Scott 800 considered a dog?
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 07:24:04 -0600
Message-ID: <3771-4471BB74-1967@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net>
References: <DQgcg.3856$9W5.2154@tornado.socal.rr.com>

First because it dont look like a radio . Those look like a big ugly
dresser very plane .
Yes they are built well and play clear but.. they lack terribly in good
bass . My grundig table radio out preforms an 800 both in FM reception
and sound   



Article: 334681 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Hambone the Porkbutter" <ayeayeayePBsong@yahoo.com>
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <4471305D.9090001@qth.com>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by OBSCENE ADMISSION $$$
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 10:11:22 -0400
Message-ID: <9e0$4471c68b$d1cc45cc$5357@snip.allthenewsgroups.com>

Sure!!

HamComm charges $10 admission, like Dayton charges $25
a head to get in. Their pricing themselves clear out of the
market! Then add in the price of gas and food and is it any
wonder why hams are staying home and ordering their
radios onlive via e-Bay or elsewhere ??

It's actually cheaper to go see a Major League Baseball
game live admission than it is to go to a stupid Hamfest.

Do the $$$ homework boys - you guys that run these ham events
are screwin yerselves faster than Barbaro broke his leg last week.



"Murray Neece" <radioranch@qth.com> wrote in message
news:4471305D.9090001@qth.com...
> It isnt just Dayton, its nearly all hamfests.  Check out what they are
> doing to Ham Comm in DFW area this year.  48 flea mkt tables vs usually
> about 300!!  They made sure it would fail.
>
> lemonhead wrote:
> > "Lisa Simpson" <none@none.com> wrote in message
> > news:vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com...
> >> Just returned from the Dayton HamFest; only found a coupla SW
receivers
> > for
> >> sale, used, high-ish prices; quite a few old tube receivers way
> > overpriced,
> >> and of course the new ones at normal to slightly high prices.
> >> Disappointing.
> >
> > I was there for 4 hours on Saturday.
> > Nothing but old test equipment and computer junk.
> > Only reason to go anymore is to meet people, albeit an
> > expensive one. Never again will I goto Dayton.
> > It's day has ended, period. E-Bay and private ad's on places like
> > QRZ.com have killed it. Not worth the effort anymore.
> >



Article: 334682 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <4471E3CC.D527CD4A@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Ebay & "The Market"
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:16:51 GMT

Peter Wieck wrote:
> 
> a) the west, southwest and south in general suffer from a dearth of
> good radios. This has been the case for the over 20 years I have been
> in the hobby and remains the case today. Exceptions include Florida &
> Maryland... stretch to make MD a 'southern' state although it is below
> the Mason/Dixon line.


   According to the snowbirds from the New England area, Florida is the
southern tip of new England. :(


-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 334683 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <4471E44D.B0275F24@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by OBSCENE ADMISSION $$$
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <4471305D.9090001@qth.com> <9e0$4471c68b$d1cc45cc$5357@snip.allthenewsgroups.com>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 16:19:00 GMT

Hambone the Porkbutter wrote:
> 
> Sure!!
> 
> HamComm charges $10 admission, like Dayton charges $25
> a head to get in. Their pricing themselves clear out of the
> market! Then add in the price of gas and food and is it any
> wonder why hams are staying home and ordering their
> radios onlive via e-Bay or elsewhere ??
> 
> It's actually cheaper to go see a Major League Baseball
> game live admission than it is to go to a stupid Hamfest.
> 
> Do the $$$ homework boys - you guys that run these ham events
> are screwin yerselves faster than Barbaro broke his leg last week.


  So, you're saying that the price hasn't changed that much since I left
Ohio in the late '80s?  Do you think that they get Hara Arena for free,
or all the cops and bus service for park and ride?


-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 334684 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Shawn K <r-520@REMOVETHISshaw.ca>
Subject: FREE MONDAY: old test gear, just pay shipping
Message-ID: <ufmcg.181313$P01.100180@pd7tw3no>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:09:46 GMT

Hi folks, cleaning out my shop, I have some old test gear that I want to 
get rid of, free for the taking, just pay the shipping costs from 
Surrey, BC, Canada, V3R 4K8. None of these things have been tested, no 
manuals.

1) Precision E-200-C signal generator, all knobs present.

2) Canadian signal generator, model SG-1, all knobs present.

3) Eico 460 scope, fuse holder on back is broken off, one knob not original.

I am hoping that there are a few people who can make use of these, 
otherwise they'll be headed for the trash bin.

REMOVETHIS from my e-mail address to reply.
-- 

Shawn K
www.thisoldradio.com


Article: 334685 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <4471F15D.DD1B3BE@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by hams themselve
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:14:05 GMT

"kb9rqz@hotmail.com" wrote:
> 
> Michael A. Terrell wrote:
> > Hambone the Porkbutter wrote:
> > >
> 
> > > Do the $$$ homework boys - you guys that run these ham events
> > > are screwin yerselves faster than Barbaro broke his leg last week.
> >
> >
> >   So, you're saying that the price hasn't changed that much since I left
> > Ohio in the late '80s?  Do you think that they get Hara Arena for free,
> > or all the cops and bus service for park and ride?
> I think many think they do or more precisely that the Ham have already
> paid the nation for those services by our "public service"


    I was curious about the way it was run so I talked to the group that
organized the event every year. You wouldn't believe the crap they have
to wade through to run a hamfest that size, even though the money raised
is used to provide emergency communications for the area.


-- 
My sig file can beat up your sig file!


Article: 334686 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <4471F20C.3CC6AD79@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Mopar 800 radio dialcord debacle!
References: <WbWdnZjSAMYCc-zZ4p2dnA@comcast.com>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:17:00 GMT

Mark Oppat wrote:
> 
> Just spent about 3.5 hours last night trying to get the dial pointer strung
> correctly on a '41 Dodge radio...!  I only had a SAMS for the Mopar 802 dial
> cord, it turns out its different...so, I FINALLY get it to work, install the
> faceplate,  two hours later I got the set working (I had recapped it the day
> before) and the dial is backwards!  Now I gotta reverse it...
> ARRGGGHHH!!!
> 
> Mark Oppat



   Mark, would you please set the clock on your computer? its at least
20 minutes fast.

  BTW, you might want to check and replace the battery if it gained that
time over a short period of time.  They run a little faster just before
the battery dies.


-- 
My sig file can beat up your sig file!


Article: 334687 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard)
Subject: Re: Using a potentiometer to determine  resistor value....
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 10:15:08 -0700
Message-ID: <8514-4471F19C-826@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1148315789.131789.24580@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

Stef,
              I don't see why a pot (rheostat) wouldn't work.
Personally, i'd monitor the filament current and set it for 50ma or
maybe just a notch under (assuming the tubes are 50ma filament types). 
                   Bill(oc)



Article: 334688 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: robert casey <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 Question
References: <WAPbg.1922$8G3.1650@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <LIadnS1cW7IEY_LZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com> <yB%bg.346$W97.250@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <zaSdnaRh6ZqCee3ZRVn-pw@comcast.com> <xk9cg.741430$084.732650@attbi_s22>
Message-ID: <SGmcg.5383$x4.1107@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:38:58 GMT


> 
> Yo Mark .... tell me what you have if you... tie pins 3 and 4 together
> and pin 7 to 8 .. and then stuff a 6L6 into a socket for a 6B4 ???
> 

You might need to pay attention to where the 6L6 cathode connects to. 
You may end up with it connected to 6.3VAC or half that.  Which would 
impose hum on the audio.  You might want to connect the cathode to 
ground, or better yet to the point where the filament supply centertap 
connects to.


Article: 334689 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Ebay & "The Market"
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 10:33:59 -0700
Message-ID: <ket3729gngs8jak886f3kh02m1c8mh543n@4ax.com>
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <12725vt81v3bfbd@corp.supernews.com> <m39cg.36461$mh.27894@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> <1148312047.828984.28290@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4471E3CC.D527CD4A@earthlink.net>

On Mon, 22 May 2006 16:16:51 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

>   According to the snowbirds from the New England area, Florida is the
>southern tip of new England. :( <snip>

I thought the Noo Yawkuhs declared it an eighth borough.  At least
they vote correctly!


Article: 334690 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Michael Lawson" <mtl@[REMOVE-TO-REPLY]fuse.net>
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>   <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com>   <12725vt81v3bfbd@corp.supernews.com>   <m39cg.36461$mh.27894@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>   <C0972C92.479F3%jmsent2@comcast.net> <1148315075.007705.154790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 14:47:39 -0400
Message-ID: <174ff$4472032d$d8c4cbde$2806@FUSE.NET>


"CAINE" <bb69@epix.net> wrote in message
news:1148315075.007705.154790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> good points.
>
> The local flea markets here, always seem so barren of good stuff.
So I
> managed to get to one 35 minutes before official opening time.
>
> I was surpised to see the smart buyers already walking out with
boxes
> full of all the good stuff !
>
> The best items sell, as the spots are still being set up.

I have to agree.  I got to Dayton last year shortly after
the opening, and there were already some R5000's
and some beautiful old Hallicrafters that already had
"sold" tags on them.

--Mike L.




Article: 334691 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 12:28:57 -0700
Message-ID: <b64472d60sskh5b4rmf4hqleg5n4gpijc7@4ax.com>
References: <Xuubg.74228$F_3.62241@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> <uoOdnTivAPPYEfLZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@sigecom.net> <1148178102.686589.8060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <ruov62lc27vpeq65jnti953jj6p9qcgflr@4ax.com> <1148319866.712211.233380@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

On 22 May 2006 10:44:27 -0700, "toxcrusadr" <cadyc@mchsi.com> wrote:

>>and your end time is drawing nearer than you think....Noodles.
>
>I've already made a commitment not to engage with you pinheads, but
>this reads like a death threat.  Nice. You heard it here  first, folks. <snip>

...and you sound like another paranoid delusional, like Noodles.  His
time as an eBay fraudster/Usenet spammer is drawing near...nutcase.


Article: 334692 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 12:31:10 -0700
Message-ID: <6b4472p01epgojlf235veii5bqvnflv3vs@4ax.com>
References: <1148109315.091369.173890@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148114583.582110.12070@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148127603.164543.158250@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <12eu625ktpeiq49oo6ohquoelc4g5e3kj1@4ax.com> <1148145642.231152.100190@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <c0ou62lpg8mk62u96fk835jr9armacmojf@4ax.com> <446f7464$0$31653$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <1148161242.304853.242090@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148322934.881760.311120@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 22 May 2006 11:35:34 -0700, "Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote:

>You, on the other hand are all that Bobby-Boy accuses you of being and
>much less all at once. <snip>

I warned you...just remember that fact.


Article: 334693 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black)
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by hams themselve
Date: 22 May 2006 19:59:09 GMT
Message-ID: <e4t56d$fov$1@theodyn.ncf.ca>
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> <1148326700.169634.36130@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

"Peter Wieck" (pfjw@aol.com) writes:
>>     I was curious about the way it was run so I talked to the group that
>> organized the event every year. You wouldn't believe the crap they have
>> to wade through to run a hamfest that size, even though the money raised
>> is used to provide emergency communications for the area.
>>
>>
> THAT is the single largest obstacle to these events. It is not simply a
> matter of finding a vacant bit of ground and throwing up a few signs.
> In this lawsuit-happy society, there is Insurance (liability, property,
> fire, and so forth), staffing, cleaning, trash-removal, contacting food
> vendors (and verifying their insurance) and much, much more. Is
> whatever equipment you are providing also insured? What about any
> electrical devices? Fences? Guide ropes? ADA compliant? Sufficient
> facilities? Will food be served? Are they insured? Licensed in *that*
> township? Board-of-Health certificates? What about the servers? Any
> contraband/knock-offs/unlicensed material being sold? Sales tax
> collected?
> 
> And so forth. Not small. My wife's church (a very small one) carries a
> $1,000,000 policy on any internal events held by non-church groups
> _AND_ they insist that these groups also carry a *specific* policy for
> the event.
> 
> So it is not just collecting table-fees and admission-fees.
> 
> I still think that closed-ended events for dedicated hobbyists are bad
> ideas anyway, but I am not unsympathetic to the complications involved.
> 
But in some ways, Dayton may be an exception, or at least one of a handful
of exceptions.

Dayton is big because it draws people, not just from the local area but
>from far away.  Costs go up as size goes up.  I'm willing to accept
that some hamfests are "insider" events.

But you're right that hamfests should be used as a recruitment tool,
and certainly the smaller they get the more their survival requires
a wider swatch of the population.

The local hamfests here in Montreal do not publicize outside of
ham circles.  At least, I don't see it and if I didn't know
about the ham clubs and the hamfests I'd not know that they were
happening.  For most of a decade, I've at least posted to the local
buy and sell newsgroup when one of the hamfests is about to happen,
and less regularly I post about the others.  I'm not sellng the hamfest,
but trying to get the word out.

I give the details, but also a spiel because I'm aware that people
who don't know need to be informed.  I make the point that visiting
is a way of finding out about amateur radio, and that the hamfest
can be a valuable resource for non-ham.  Shortwave listeners may
find things of interest, the electronic hobbyist will find things,
and of course in recent years computer types may find things.

And while few will see the message, relative speaking, it may be
the only time most of the readers see a mention of amateur radio
in that year.  The way I see it, it's not just about selling tickets
to the hamfest, but it's an excuse to get amateur radio out into
the world.

When I was a kid, I found out about the hobby because there was
an article in a general purpose magazine.  I found out that the
rules were about to change to allow people under fifteen to get
licenses in the local paper.  But that sort of thing happens less
and less. At the very least, some promotion of the hamfest is
a means of letting new people see something about the hobby, and
maybe pursuing it further.

And sustainability is a factor.  The biggest of the local hamfests
is fairly small.  SOme years back, one had to cancel because they'd
not sold enough tables ahead of time, the next year they came back
in a much smaller space that doesn't allow for growth.  Had they
been promoting the fleamarket outside ham circles ahead of time,
they could have attracted "fellow travellers", the SWLs and the
electronic hobbyists and even the computer types, to fill the empty
tables.  

   Michael  VE2BVW



Article: 334694 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" <kc4yoy@NOSPAM.carolina.rr.com>
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>  <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com>  <12725vt81v3bfbd@corp.supernews.com>  <m39cg.36461$mh.27894@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>  <C0972C92.479F3%jmsent2@comcast.net> <1148315075.007705.154790@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
Message-ID: <vbqcg.7462$JW5.7114@southeast.rr.com>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 21:38:35 GMT

> managed to get to one 35 minutes before official opening time.
> I was surpised to see the smart buyers already walking out with
> boxes full of all the good stuff !
> The best items sell, as the spots are still being set up.
>

Shuuuu, don't tell everyone. That's half to reason to get a
flea market space. That way most of the time you get in
before the general public and scoop up the good deals....

Ron
--

Radio Collection Web Page,
http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com





Article: 334695 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "clfe" <Nospam@clfurent.com>
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>   <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com>   <12725vt81v3bfbd@corp.supernews.com>   <m39cg.36461$mh.27894@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>   <1148312047.828984.28290@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148326681.789315.105280@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <44722BF1.E6DA1257@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Ebay & "The Market"
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 17:55:41 -0400
Message-ID: <44723335$0$3697$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net>

"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message 
news:44722BF1.E6DA1257@earthlink.net...
> "John S." wrote:
>>
>> Internet based sales have a huge advantage over in-place sales like
>> Dayton.  Ebay and other sales sites can as we all know bring sellers
>> from around the world at any time of the day.  It just isn't possible
>> to get that kind of coverage at an arena in Ohio.
>
>
>   E-bay and other on line auctions can never replace spotting a part or
> piece of equipment you need that isn't worth the dealers time to list,
> or would cost too much to ship.  More than once I've asked about
> something and was told to take it, so they didn't have to haul it home.
> I've never seen an E-bay listing giving something away, and paying the
> shipping to your door.
>
>
> -- 
> Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
> prove it.
> Member of DAV #85.
>
> Michael A. Terrell
> Central Florida

You have a point there - not that I totally agree with the poster you 
replied to. I've had some real bargains "handed" to me so they didn't have 
to be hauled home.
Actually, each venue has its own place in life. Problem with Dayton and 
other hamfests is between fuel costs and so on - there are more and more 
factors involved keeping people away. Ham radio itself isn't what it used to 
be. Then, some clubs who've had them - as I've heard it - had inner battles 
as to how things are to be done and so on. So club politics played a part 
along the line. I'm sure we could list many reasons for failures as they're 
being seen. Question is, who has the "answers"? Times are changing. Things 
change with time and I see it here in my own town - People DO NOT like 
change. I'm sorry to see some things go too - but there's not much you can 
do about some things. 




Article: 334696 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: FREE MONDAY: old test gear, just pay shipping
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <ufmcg.181313$P01.100180@pd7tw3no>
Message-ID: <Ajrcg.742776$084.242497@attbi_s22>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 22:55:28 GMT

In article <ufmcg.181313$P01.100180@pd7tw3no>, r-520@REMOVETHISshaw.ca 
says...
>
>


that Precision E-200C is a nice signal jenny.... don't know about
the Canadian one... the Scope?... before it goes to the curb .... open
it up and take out the power transformer and tubes along with a few
other useful parts....

power transformer is about the right size to use for one of those 6 volt
radios you want to convert to run on AC ... 

John k9uwa


>Hi folks, cleaning out my shop, I have some old test gear that I want to 
>get rid of, free for the taking, just pay the shipping costs from 
>Surrey, BC, Canada, V3R 4K8. None of these things have been tested, no 
>manuals.
>
>1) Precision E-200-C signal generator, all knobs present.
>
>2) Canadian signal generator, model SG-1, all knobs present.
>
>3) Eico 460 scope, fuse holder on back is broken off, one knob not original.
>
>I am hoping that there are a few people who can make use of these, 
>otherwise they'll be headed for the trash bin.
>
>
>Shawn K
>www.thisoldradio.com



Article: 334697 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 Question
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <WAPbg.1922$8G3.1650@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <LIadnS1cW7IEY_LZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com> <yB%bg.346$W97.250@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <zaSdnaRh6ZqCee3ZRVn-pw@comcast.com> <xk9cg.741430$084.732650@attbi_s22> <SGmcg.5383$x4.1107@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <Onrcg.985245$xm3.332238@attbi_s21>
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 22:59:58 GMT

In article <SGmcg.5383$x4.1107@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net>, 
wa2ise@ix.netcom.com says...
>
>
>
>> 
>> Yo Mark .... tell me what you have if you... tie pins 3 and 4 together
>> and pin 7 to 8 .. and then stuff a 6L6 into a socket for a 6B4 ???
>> 
>
>You might need to pay attention to where the 6L6 cathode connects to. 
>You may end up with it connected to 6.3VAC or half that.  Which would 
>impose hum on the audio.  You might want to connect the cathode to 
>ground, or better yet to the point where the filament supply centertap 
>connects to.

in the radio in question .. the Philco 38-117 and 37-116 the filament 
line has a wire wound pot across the filament with the tap on the pot
grounded... they tell you to set this pot for the least hum... so
connecting the pin 8 cathode of the 6L6 to one side of the filament
works out fine in this case... 

John



Article: 334698 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: FREE MONDAY: old test gear, just pay shipping
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 18:56:04 -0600
Message-ID: <28215-44725DA4-2325@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net>
References: <ufmcg.181313$P01.100180@pd7tw3no>

I am interested in the precision sig gen . Is it small or a HUGE in size
?



Article: 334699 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Should this group be moderated? - Yes or No
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 19:08:29 -0600
Message-ID: <28217-4472608D-147@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net>
References: <126vugqgki250d7@corp.supernews.com>

Ken, if you would get that "computer" working you wouldn't see all that
crap. (At least until they start emailing you directly under fake
names). If I was stuck with Google or WebTV I'd be long gone from here. 
-Bill

Bill i have the computer on line now as you probably know that . I agree
 I am having trouble figuring out the computer . It seems the only
things that i want are hard to do or ``hidden`` otherwise its easy to
search the net etc. 
Actuall normally i am only looking at this newsgroup for 5 minutes or so
. old habit i guess . 



Article: 334700 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com>
References: <a6Qbg.311$W97.160@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <hgacg.6128$y4.2967@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <a5mdncWDlts13-zZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: 38-116 output transf?
Message-ID: <Drtcg.6034$8G3.1855@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 01:20:35 GMT

Mark!  tisk tisk!  at least use a dud in the other socket ;-)
The audio through the drive seems to be OK, kinda hard to get bass response 
on the heathkit signal tracer so I really need to use a scope.  Im going to 
noodle a bit more and Ill let everyone know, and check out the final audio 
train a bit more carefully.

Thanks, all

Keith


"Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message 
news:a5mdncWDlts13-zZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Robt Casey wrote:
>> Check that the audio signals feeding the output tube grids are okay.
>
>
> Exactly my thoughts.... I just had one of those RCA R7 tombstones in 
> here...
> PP47 output,  I chased some hum and distortion around it for an hour or 
> two
> after recapping it.  THEN I got smart, and pulled one of the tubes and it
> got cleaner and the hum died down...  turns out half the input xfmer was
> open,  AND I had missed a shorted #47 tube!   Anyways, this set has gain 
> to
> burn, so it ran just great with one 47...  so that's the way she went 
> out...
> with the other socked taped over.
>
> Mark Oppat
>
>
> 




Article: 334701 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Dave Head <rally2xs@att.net>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
Message-ID: <6to47254iafagr2uavkg8g5k6r2i8vqo49@4ax.com>
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <1148325136.787232.24030@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148330744.551002.41230@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 01:22:58 GMT

On 22 May 2006 13:45:44 -0700, "sapper" <billvet6@excite.com> wrote:

>I am a new Ham and have been to two ham fests this year put on by local
>clubs. Very disappointing. I thought maybe I could get some used
>equipment
>since I had none.

There was lots of used equipment at the Hamvention.

> If I had been looking for 23 channel CBs or obsolete
>computer junk I would have been all set. I thought selling old 23
>channel Cbs was illegal because of the power.

Nope - old 23 ch CB's are 5 watts, too, and perfectly legal.

>There was a real dealer at
>the one so I got a new VX 150 from them.Got home and there was no
>paperwork in the box. Went back to get it at 11:45 AM. The thing was
>suppose to last till 1PM.
>Everyone was already packing up all their junk.This dealer had no time
>to find my manual and stuff and said they would mail it.Took 2 weeks.
>Lucky for me I found a manuel on line. I'll still try different ham
>fests but if the granddaddy was a bust I don't know about the small
>clubs.

The granddaddy was not a bust, it was awesome.  Had a great time (always do).
There was about anything you could want, I think, either used out in the flea
market, or new inside the buildings.

Dave Head
K8DH



Article: 334702 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Using a potentiometer to determine resistor value....
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 19:16:34 -0600
Message-ID: <28216-44726272-606@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1148330484.118666.199670@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

This is where a good resistor substitution box comes in handy . I use
mine alot when ``tweekng`` circuits . You could restore an old sub box
with all nice big resistors i suppose .



Article: 334703 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com>
References: <WAPbg.1922$8G3.1650@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <LIadnS1cW7IEY_LZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com> <yB%bg.346$W97.250@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <zaSdnaRh6ZqCee3ZRVn-pw@comcast.com> <NY5cg.2012$8G3.1066@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <Yzdcg.1201$hq2.771@newsfe22.lga>
Subject: Re: Philco 38-116 Question
Message-ID: <8xtcg.6071$8G3.5319@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 01:26:28 GMT


    Thanks for looking Nelson!  Now there is another varible in the mix...
I have a 32-7864N  Is there  a Philco output transformer cross reference 
somewhere?

The plot thickens....

Keith


>
> Keith,
> I have a 38-C116 here (Canadian version, I think.)
> The output transformer mounted on the speaker is marked:
> 7897C
> 5-37
>
> I notice the part number given in the parts list is 33-7751 (if I'm 
> reading
> this scruffy
> scan correctly.)
> -hope that helps.
> Cheers,
> Nelson
>
> 




Article: 334704 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <447264A9.D4D61D3@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Ebay & "The Market"
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 01:26:52 GMT

"John S." wrote:
> 
> Clearly Ebay and other internet sites won't completely replace in
> person sales, be it a hamfest, garage sale or estate auction.  But the
> ease of bringing large numbers of buyers and sellers together via some
> internet connection has had a significant impact on brick and mortar
> operations.  The ease of transacting a sale electronically be it for a
> Kenwood 940 or a spinning wheel can't be ignored.  And the sellers that
> fail to react in some way will be left behind.


   Yeah, right.  What about the people who don't even have a computer,
or don't trust online transactions?  They'll never go near E-bay.


-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 334705 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Still looking for Philco 16B escutcheon
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 19:21:13 -0600
Message-ID: <28215-44726389-2335@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1148309456.535638.96940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

Art i still need that . I sent an email but if it did not get to you
... i hope you see this please send a picture of it .

Ken



Article: 334706 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Still looking for Philco 16B escutcheon
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 19:25:46 -0600
Message-ID: <28215-4472649A-2336@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1148309456.535638.96940@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

I dont know what happened to the link i used . The escutcheon is just
like the ones on the 2 16B`s on radio attic . It is black bakelite
http://radioatticarchives.com/images/p/Philco_16B_(1934)_Turney.jpg 



Article: 334707 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com>
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>   <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com>   <12725vt81v3bfbd@corp.supernews.com>   <m39cg.36461$mh.27894@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> <1148312047.828984.28290@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Ebay & "The Market"
Message-ID: <sGtcg.6072$8G3.3305@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 01:36:24 GMT

I think Peter is pretty much right with his observations,  Project sets are 
plentiful in the Northeast and upper mid west, and the West coast folks are 
really desperate!  I very seldom buy on ebay, but do keep a watch on things. 
The only things I ever buy are large pickup only consoles that are close by. 
Most of the Restored stuff I sell ends up in the deep south or on the west 
coast, the Cost of living is so high in California that a Nice restoration 
at Retail WITH shipping  across country is still a bargain out there.

keith


"Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:1148312047.828984.28290@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> After reading all this, and with the recent Kutztown event in the
> background, as well as my three weekend finds, I am not so sure eBay
> has much to do with anything as to radio prices or availability. This
> is based on several assumptions which I will list for
> correction/addition/amplification:
>
> a) the west, southwest and south in general suffer from a dearth of
> good radios. This has been the case for the over 20 years I have been
> in the hobby and remains the case today. Exceptions include Florida &
> Maryland... stretch to make MD a 'southern' state although it is below
> the Mason/Dixon line.
> b) the Pacific northwest suffers from the same lack to a lesser degree.
>
>
> With this in mind, eBay has always been a presence in areas where the
> natural crop is limited or non-existent. This group will typically have
> a view of radios that is wildly distorted in price, as they start with
> the "everything costs $15" mentality based on shipping alone.
>
> As one moves east especially into (former) wealthier parts of it, and
> around older major cities (Chicago, Minneapolis, Detroit and so forth),
> radios become thicker and thicker until one hits the East Coast, where
> even the most limited multi-family garage sale will offer a few
> examples of *something* loosely described as being related to the
> hobby. Then, at Kutztown, the typical $30+shipping eBay brown bakelite
> radio goes in the $15-if-that range at the end-of-meet auction. And the
> $229-for-a-common-RCA (albeit polished to glow-in-the-dark proportions)
> simply does not happen.
>
> So, it is "all according to" location and opportunity. Kutztown is a
> free-to-the-public event held at a major Farmers' Market/Antique Market
> that also has weekly tables for anyone selling. Accordingly its
> attendance is disproportionately large and consists of a
> disproportionate amount of the "general public" walking through out of
> curiosity and because they were 'there anyway'. This would not happen
> at a destination-event if only because of the lack of general publicity
> as much as the uninterested public would never go nor have any reason
> to even be proximate that they might go. And, of course, the admission
> fee would deter those few that did happen to be straggling nearby.
>
> I will also state for the record that Kutztown had _at least_ thousands
> of radios in all states, of all types and in all price ranges, from
> high-end, high-tube-count consoles through lovingly restored tabletops
> through standard junk. The peripheral events are limited... no
> hotel-banquet-hall lectures, but those few were directly on-point and
> even of interest to non-radio people (The talk on Crystal sets, for
> example).
>
> So, from purely anecdotal evidence, it appears that those venues where
> the general public is not actively solicited, those venues that are
> 'preaching to the converted' are shrinking. Those that do solicit the
> general public, those that run at (apparently) a much lower key appear
> to be growing. The two local examples would be the DVHRC-sponsored
> events (Kutztown, PA) and the NJARC-sponsored events (Hazelet, NJ).
> Those of you that go to the NEARC events in Nashua, New Hampshire...
> how are they doing? I hear from some acquaintances that they are doing
> quite well? And I also hear that Rochester is a mere shadow of its
> former self? Is this true?
>
> In any case, I remain of the general belief that eBay is not a
> significant factor in the hobby to those in the east. And to those in
> the west or out-of-range of large, older population centers, it has
> _always_ been a factor, neither more nor less much than now.
>
> The thoughts of others are actively solicited!
>
> Peter Wieck
> Wyncote, PA
> 




Article: 334708 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Free Monday: #44 lamps
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 10:48:26 +0900
Message-ID: <e4tphe$mpe$1@news2.kornet.net>

No takers last time. I'll make the same offer again.

First one to e-mail me gets 10 (hell, let's make it 15) good used #44 lamps, 
postpaid. (for those not familiar with the term, that means I am paying the 
postage)





Article: 334709 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Another Free Monday post
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 11:25:41 +0900
Message-ID: <e4trn9$o86$1@news2.kornet.net>

Free to the first one that e-mails me:

3 new, unused memory IC's for the Grundig Satellit 700.




Article: 334710 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Shawn K <r-520@REMOVETHISshaw.ca>
Subject: Re: FREE MONDAY: old test gear, just pay shipping
References: <ufmcg.181313$P01.100180@pd7tw3no> <28215-44725DA4-2325@storefull-3238.bay.webtv.net>
Message-ID: <Muucg.183767$WI1.79916@pd7tw2no>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 02:32:12 GMT

Hi Ken, it is 11" high, 11" wide, 7" deep, weighs about 15lb. I figure 
about $20 shipping (to USA), but I'll have to verify that tomorrow.

Ken G. wrote:
> I am interested in the precision sig gen . Is it small or a HUGE in size
> ?
> 


-- 

Shawn K
www.thisoldradio.com


Article: 334711 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: robert casey <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: FREE MONDAY: old test gear, just pay shipping
References: <ufmcg.181313$P01.100180@pd7tw3no>   <Ajrcg.742776$084.242497@attbi_s22> <1148345575.698060.206810@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <PSucg.3923$921.1836@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 02:57:51 GMT

Bret Ludwig wrote:
>  Simple scopes like that are easily made into a poor man's Huntron
> Tracker. Several articles are available on the net.
> 
>  If you scrap it do save the crt. They use those for digital clock
> displays now.
> 
Odds are Shawn has to move or vacate a place, and simply won't have time 
or storage room anymore...


Article: 334712 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Shawn K <r-520@REMOVETHISshaw.ca>
Subject: Re: FREE MONDAY: old test gear, just pay shipping
References: <ufmcg.181313$P01.100180@pd7tw3no>   <Ajrcg.742776$084.242497@attbi_s22> <1148345575.698060.206810@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <PSucg.3923$921.1836@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Message-ID: <B0wcg.183862$WI1.69710@pd7tw2no>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 04:16:33 GMT

robert casey wrote:

> Odds are Shawn has to move or vacate a place, and simply won't have time 
> or storage room anymore...

Well, not moving, staying put, but just recently acquired a whole bunch 
of stuff, some of it is scrap, some I'm keeping, and some I giving away. 
I just don't have room for everything anymore. Plus, I don't really need 
duplicates....

-- 

Shawn K
www.thisoldradio.com


Article: 334713 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" <nobody@nowhere.com>
Subject: Re: Eco-Tourism Pays.... May Finds
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 22:23:40 -0700
Message-ID: <117572hodlnds28vdarqo2oc19etmt1n73@4ax.com>
References: <1148304797.037246.265170@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148312717.353856.175810@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>

actually, the $2 and some change gas is cause for drooling - that's
more than a dollar cheaper than I have to pay.... I guess the good
news is that the guys with the hummers are reaping the reward of size


On 22 May 2006 08:45:17 -0700, "toxcrusadr" <cadyc@mchsi.com> wrote:

>Drool, drool.
>
>Tox
>Hinterlands, Missouri
Bill

www.wbnoble.com

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Article: 334714 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jim Mueller <wrongname@nospam.com>
Subject: Re: nitto phonograph
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 22:26:40 -0700
Message-ID: <pan.2006.05.23.05.26.38.633268@nospam.com>
References: <1148291582.805798.218000@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On Mon, 22 May 2006 02:53:02 -0700, searcher wrote:

> I recently acquired a little phonograph which opens up like a small
> suitcase and has a valve tube and a small built in speaker.  It still
> has the luggage tag from when it arrived in Australia but no date.
> 
> Does anybody know anything about these old phonographs?  It has been
> repaired and is in some working order...just doesn't play 33's as the
> needle was broken and is now fixed on the thinner 45' and 78' setting.
> 
> 
> cheers,
> searcher

I don't know about Australian records but I would guess that they are the
same as U.S. and European records.  In that case, 33 and 45 use the small
0.001" stylus and 78 uses the larger 0.003" stylus.  These dimensions are
the radius of the curved tip.

-- 
Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com

To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz.
Then replace nospam with sacbeemail.


Article: 334715 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" <nobody@nowhere.com>
Subject: Re: Ebay & "The Market"
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 22:31:20 -0700
Message-ID: <7b7572tfejbatufane5q0rmibqoqdpegtj@4ax.com>
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>   <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com>   <12725vt81v3bfbd@corp.supernews.com>   <m39cg.36461$mh.27894@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> <1148312047.828984.28290@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <sGtcg.6072$8G3.3305@twister.nyroc.rr.com>

aaah, I don't know about this (and the message was cross posted to 4
NGs, I'm only posting to this one) - if you look at the radios in
my"hobby" page (wbnoble.com) - not a fantastic collection, and not all
of them, only one came from the east (American Bosh Magneto Co, from a
collapsed garage, cost = $0) - the rest are west coast - I have a nice
scott console, a RCA Radiola console (with all original tubes, late
20s), a Gilfillian Neutrodyne (early 20s), and some other goodies -
and I recently picked up a recording console and a wind up victrola -
so the stuff is out here on the left coast too.

E-bay (I sell a fair amount of stuff) seems to be best for the very
rare, and the stuff that fits in a flat rate box.



On Tue, 23 May 2006 01:36:24 GMT, "Keith Park"
<topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com> wrote:

>I think Peter is pretty much right with his observations,  Project sets are 
>plentiful in the Northeast and upper mid west, and the West coast folks are 
>really desperate!  I very seldom buy on ebay, but do keep a watch on things. 
>The only things I ever buy are large pickup only consoles that are close by. 
>Most of the Restored stuff I sell ends up in the deep south or on the west 
>coast, the Cost of living is so high in California that a Nice restoration 
>at Retail WITH shipping  across country is still a bargain out there.
>
>keith
>
>
>"Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote in message 
>news:1148312047.828984.28290@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> After reading all this, and with the recent Kutztown event in the
>> background, as well as my three weekend finds, I am not so sure eBay
>> has much to do with anything as to radio prices or availability. This
>> is based on several assumptions which I will list for
>> correction/addition/amplification:
>>
>> a) the west, southwest and south in general suffer from a dearth of
>> good radios. This has been the case for the over 20 years I have been
>> in the hobby and remains the case today. Exceptions include Florida &
>> Maryland... stretch to make MD a 'southern' state although it is below
>> the Mason/Dixon line.
>> b) the Pacific northwest suffers from the same lack to a lesser degree.
>>
>>
>> With this in mind, eBay has always been a presence in areas where the
>> natural crop is limited or non-existent. This group will typically have
>> a view of radios that is wildly distorted in price, as they start with
>> the "everything costs $15" mentality based on shipping alone.
>>
>> As one moves east especially into (former) wealthier parts of it, and
>> around older major cities (Chicago, Minneapolis, Detroit and so forth),
>> radios become thicker and thicker until one hits the East Coast, where
>> even the most limited multi-family garage sale will offer a few
>> examples of *something* loosely described as being related to the
>> hobby. Then, at Kutztown, the typical $30+shipping eBay brown bakelite
>> radio goes in the $15-if-that range at the end-of-meet auction. And the
>> $229-for-a-common-RCA (albeit polished to glow-in-the-dark proportions)
>> simply does not happen.
>>
>> So, it is "all according to" location and opportunity. Kutztown is a
>> free-to-the-public event held at a major Farmers' Market/Antique Market
>> that also has weekly tables for anyone selling. Accordingly its
>> attendance is disproportionately large and consists of a
>> disproportionate amount of the "general public" walking through out of
>> curiosity and because they were 'there anyway'. This would not happen
>> at a destination-event if only because of the lack of general publicity
>> as much as the uninterested public would never go nor have any reason
>> to even be proximate that they might go. And, of course, the admission
>> fee would deter those few that did happen to be straggling nearby.
>>
>> I will also state for the record that Kutztown had _at least_ thousands
>> of radios in all states, of all types and in all price ranges, from
>> high-end, high-tube-count consoles through lovingly restored tabletops
>> through standard junk. The peripheral events are limited... no
>> hotel-banquet-hall lectures, but those few were directly on-point and
>> even of interest to non-radio people (The talk on Crystal sets, for
>> example).
>>
>> So, from purely anecdotal evidence, it appears that those venues where
>> the general public is not actively solicited, those venues that are
>> 'preaching to the converted' are shrinking. Those that do solicit the
>> general public, those that run at (apparently) a much lower key appear
>> to be growing. The two local examples would be the DVHRC-sponsored
>> events (Kutztown, PA) and the NJARC-sponsored events (Hazelet, NJ).
>> Those of you that go to the NEARC events in Nashua, New Hampshire...
>> how are they doing? I hear from some acquaintances that they are doing
>> quite well? And I also hear that Rochester is a mere shadow of its
>> former self? Is this true?
>>
>> In any case, I remain of the general belief that eBay is not a
>> significant factor in the hobby to those in the east. And to those in
>> the west or out-of-range of large, older population centers, it has
>> _always_ been a factor, neither more nor less much than now.
>>
>> The thoughts of others are actively solicited!
>>
>> Peter Wieck
>> Wyncote, PA
>> 
>
Bill

www.wbnoble.com

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instead correct this address and use it

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Article: 334716 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" <nobody@nowhere.com>
Subject: Re: Using a potentiometer to determine resistor value....
Date: Mon, 22 May 2006 22:32:52 -0700
Message-ID: <di7572ljcbm75fe4ln1lg1nfaeuh7k78cq@4ax.com>
References: <1148315789.131789.24580@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <8514-4471F19C-826@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> <1148329029.676573.19870@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

why are you doing this when you can easily make a constant current
source and set it to the proper value?  look at the schematics in
National Semi's site, or anywhere else you choose - it only takes a
couple of parts

On 22 May 2006 13:17:09 -0700, "Stephanie Weil"
<stephanienyc@gmail.com> wrote:

>Well, I figure the pot isn't going to be there for an extended period
>of time.  I'd probably try one of those wire-wound ones from Radio
>Shack to start with and wire it as a rheostat.  That way I can just
>change that part and get on with the rest.
>
>I do intend on buying a "real" rheostat in the very near future.
>
>Bill, the tubes are the one volt types; bog standard for those
>series-string portables.
>
>-
>Steph
Bill

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Article: 334717 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "John Powers" <johnpowers6@earthlink.net>
References: <1148172956.724731.3650@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148176508.873116.233960@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <kYydnWZQCKV11ezZnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@giganews.com>
Subject: Re: Why is Scott 800 considered a dog?
Message-ID: <xkxcg.898$Sf2.858@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 05:46:05 GMT

Phil,

Both of your Scotts look great and I bet they sound great too. I enjoyed
your articles. I'd snatch one of those in a heartbeat!

JP


"Phil Nelson" <philnelson@nospam.xyz> wrote in message
news:kYydnWZQCKV11ezZnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Not treated as a dog in this house. I  have two.
>
> http://antiqueradio.org/scot03.htm
>
> http://antiqueradio.org/scot02.htm
>
> Some buyers are put off because they are postwar (i.e., "post-E.H.")
> Scotts and they have large and heavy cabinets.
>
> Which lowers the price for the rest of us who are not deterred by those
> factors :-)
>
> I haven't seen many other sets from that time period with comparable
> features, level of engineering, and build quality.
>
> Just my $0.02.
>
> Phil Nelson
> Phil's Old Radios
> http://antiqueradio.org/index.html
>
>





Article: 334718 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: Free Monday: #44 lamps
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 15:11:57 +0900
Message-ID: <e4u8vg$3hl$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <e4tphe$mpe$1@news2.kornet.net>   <Xb-dnaI9AbII8O_ZnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1148364122.283120.187320@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>


"Steven" <thisjukeboxplays33rpm@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1148364122.283120.187320@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> So what lamp does a Zenith 6D030 need for the pilot lamp on the trim
> bar (beneath Zenith)? It says PL-1 6.3V .15A and that sounded similar
> actually to the lamp I put in a 1980 Fisher's dial! I think that was a
> 47? but the Fisher never did pan out
>
> Thank you in advance.

Zenith mostly used 47's.




Article: 334719 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: I'd say this was a decent deal...
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 15:16:05 +0900
Message-ID: <e4u977$3lf$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <5u2dnc2AT9_-B-_Z4p2dnA@comcast.com>


"Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message 
news:5u2dnc2AT9_-B-_Z4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6630149632&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
>
> got some rough spots but actually the veneer is tight and could be sanded 
> on
> the corners (solid wood) and retouched without stripping.  Its all there 
> but
> for 2 knobs, and grille cloth, all do-able.
>
> This is a 650,  1936 8 or 9 tuber.  Great set.  Seller says they'll ship 
> it
> for $15...  this is a heavy set, and they're gonna loose on that deal.
>
> Mark Oppat


Very nice indeed. I like those 30's Philco's.. but it's so  hard to get them 
here in one piece.





Article: 334720 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Brenda Ann" <brendad@shinbiro.com>
Subject: Re: Free Monday: #44 lamps
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 17:50:44 +0900
Message-ID: <e4ui97$75j$1@news2.kornet.net>
References: <e4tphe$mpe$1@news2.kornet.net>   <Xb-dnaI9AbII8O_ZnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@comcast.com>   <1148364122.283120.187320@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   <e4u8vg$3hl$1@news2.kornet.net>   <1148366668.576587.280790@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <1148366958.378823.43000@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148367873.306271.186320@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>


"Steven" <thisjukeboxplays33rpm@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1148367873.306271.186320@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> It shows that the circuit it's tied to starts at G0 (Getter?) of the
> 12SA7GT converter and branches off to line with a 10,000 ohm resistor
> that goes to the power switch on one end (from AC), and continues
> through a C9 capacitor, .05 mfd? to the lamp. It returns to P and Ht
> (Heater?) of 35Z5GT. I'd say it's not supposed to work with out the
> pilot yet it does, suggesting it was bypassed but not with what or if
> correct to keep it going. What does that sound like to you?


Dial lamps on series string radios are across two filament pins on the 
rectifier tube, in your case the 35Z5.  If you don't replace the lamp, the 
filament will have too much current flowing through it and will burn out 
fairly quickly.




Article: 334721 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Gary Tayman" <caradio@verizon.net>
References: <e4nb0801auk@drn.newsguy.com> <e4nfbu01lmb@drn.newsguy.com> <446F45D5.257D809@earthlink.net> <e4nkak022ap@drn.newsguy.com> <446FB252.E5A013B7@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Bendix 1970/71 Cuda Schematic
Message-ID: <d5Dcg.7419$Ar6.125@trnddc02>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 12:19:21 GMT

These radios were not exactly fantastic, but they were a vast improvement 
over the 1963-66 pieces of crap found in Fords, Volkswagens, and Mopars. 
Almost daily I get inquiries about fixing one of these for a Thunderbird, 
and I turn them down.  I'll do a conversion, but forget about the original 
radio.

The 1967 and up were better; however as others have said, align it per the 
book.



-- 
Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical
Sound Solutions For Classic Cars
http://www.taymanelectrical.com


"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message 
news:446FB252.E5A013B7@earthlink.net...
> Verne Folk wrote:
>>
>> In article <446F45D5.257D809@earthlink.net>, Michael A. Terrell says...
>> >
>> >Verne Folk wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In article <e4nb0801auk@drn.newsguy.com>, Verne Folk says...
>> >> >
>> >>>Guys and Gals; I'm in need of the schematic for this auto radio. Only 
>> >>>markings
>> >> >on case are Bendix and MARK.  Thanks, verne
>> >> >
>> >>Did some research and found that this unit is a 2884 759 OBBJ and is 
>> >>listed in
>> >> Sam's AR 89.  Thanks again, verne
>> >
>> >
>> >   I have a copy of AR-89 if you need any of the information.
>> >
>> >
>> Michael:  I would pay for a copy of the service info for this radio. 
>> Actually
>> all I would need is the schematic and transistor listing.  I have 6 of 
>> these
>> units. The radios all works but after RF/IF alignment they  just don't 
>> perform
>> very well. All IFs peak well and all coils have continuity. Might be that 
>> these
>> radios were poor performers to begin with.  verne
>
>
>   From what I remember, the early Bendix solid state care radios
> weren't very good.  Did you use the right "dummy antenna" when you
> aligned the radio, and did you have the proper alignment procedure?
> These inductor tuned radios are very picky in how you align them.  I'll
> dig out the schematic & parts list and contact you.
>
>
> -- 
> My sig file can beat up your sig file! 




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Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 16:00:33 +0200
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Article: 334723 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Fuse News" <k8cxm@fuse.net>
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com>   <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com>   <1148325136.787232.24030@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   <1148330744.551002.41230@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1148385090.795664.210830@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by E-Bay
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 10:27:49 -0400
Message-ID: <f206d$44731bea$d0662e25$8359@FUSE.NET>

I also had a great time. This is my 43rd Dayton Hamvention in 45 years of 
being a ham. Yea, it's changed a bit, but still, IMHO, worth the price of 
admission. I found everything on my list, and at acceptable prices. Some 
things were indeed overpriced, but just walk away and keep looking. I'll not 
forget the old Johnson Speedex key (in excellent condition) that I bought 
>from some guy in a cold drizzle for $8 a few Hamventions back. He was 
anxious to sell anything. Maybe the best buy I've ever made at a Ham 
'tailgate' (or flea market if you like).
 Of course it does help to be an hour away. No airplanes or hotel rooms does 
make it affordable and easy, no argument from me. If E-bay killed Dayton, 
wonder why all the people were there anyway. It was as crowded as usual.

 I'm already looking forward to next year.

         Jim Leder
   K8CXM since 1961
 IBM retiree since 1999
http://home.fuse.net/k8cxm/


"Cheesehead" <dplotusnotes@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1148385090.795664.210830@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> There were some give-aways.
> My son, 19, was given an OSI Challenger 4P.
> I'm envious.  :O
> 




Article: 334724 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <44731F41.5070102@fuse.net>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 10:42:09 -0400
From: jawod <jawod@fuse.net>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by OBSCENE ADMISSION $$$
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <4471305D.9090001@qth.com> <9e0$4471c68b$d1cc45cc$5357@snip.allthenewsgroups.com>


I honestly don't think $25 is that out of line.  How much are boat 
shows, Home and Garden shows?  Probably a LITTLE less but they draw from 
a much larger market and have significant vendor support.

I was hoping I'd see something in these groups about some new products 
or SOMETHING NEW...All I see is bitching.

C'mon, folks.  Take things as they are.  It's not going to be 1950 or 
1970 or even 1990 again.

I do intend to go to the Hamvention next year...for the first time in 30 
years!

John
AB8WH


Article: 334725 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertbob1@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 08:25:00 -0700
Message-ID: <8b9672h3c43imdm8prudfaa8s11o0v7tdm@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <eoOdndbUp9TBhO7ZRVn-gw@comcast.com>

On Tue, 23 May 2006 07:17:00 -0700, "graham" <grahamiba@comcast.net>
wrote:

>
>"CAINE" <streambredbrownie@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
>news:1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
>>I recently purchased a spare Akai M8 R2R to tinker with
>
>... when will it be in "MINT" condition? <snip>

Note that the scab "66fourdoor," after having two more "goo goo
groopz" accounts shut down, is now showing up on
streambredbrownie@yahoo.com . Evidently he thinks of himself as a
fish.


Article: 334726 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Syl" <personne@perdu.com>
References: <1148181110.704775.155090@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7padnf76qOso2u3ZRVn-rA@comcast.com> <jeq072ds1aidi5u7k3h580c664d1diqb8n@4ax.com> <aKKdnaH4e6yd6e3ZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <v6917256llu87kpkh4vsdtd4ptkhhpfkgp@4ax.com> <S9udncFfvY5aNO3ZRVn-pQ@comcast.com> <cah172dctvf49svbomshqc49fqbnjb4krp@4ax.com> <BIadnVPChuxsRe3Z4p2dnA@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: Why did E.H. Scott used aluminum shields?
Message-ID: <f_Hcg.3280$DC3.38295@wagner.videotron.net>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 13:53:12 -0400

"William Sommerwerck" <gizzledgeezer@comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:BIadnVPChuxsRe3Z4p2dnA@comcast.com...

> You said "magnetic shielding" (see above), not "electromagnetic 
> shielding".
> Not the same thing.

I read from Alan's post: "Any conductive material will provide electrostatic 
and
electromagnetic shielding.  The degree of magnetic shielding depends
on conductivity and frequency."

As far as I know, magnetic and electromagnetic are brothers...

I won't spend time explaining to you what is the relation between "magnetic"
and "electromagnetic" since you never could grasp such a simple thing
as the difference between "radial" and "axial"...

I get shivers thinking you are/were a technical writer...

Syl 




Article: 334727 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertbob1@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 12:01:31 -0700
Message-ID: <cvm672h744ljb6kansp4g93c5q6n924q6e@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <eoOdndbUp9TBhO7ZRVn-gw@comcast.com> <8b9672h3c43imdm8prudfaa8s11o0v7tdm@4ax.com> <1148409503.968679.45900@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>

On 23 May 2006 11:38:24 -0700, "CAINE" <streambredbrownie@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>interestingly enough, if you clickd on DeserTBob's profile from his
>last post above, it says he's been banned. <snip>

Odd, isn't it?  Well, no one with half a wit relies on "goo goo
groopz," anyway.


Article: 334728 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Normand Dumoulin" <normand.dumoulin@sympatico.ca>
Subject: FA : Fada 1940's
Message-ID: <sVJcg.1199$%Z2.178048@news20.bellglobal.com>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 16:03:31 -0400

have a look, nice item

under ebay name alphaducentaure




Article: 334729 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Hey, Everybody, Offer This Guy a Fair Price
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 21:20:18 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <e4vuai$km4$1@reader1.panix.com>
References: <126sonare259d37@corp.supernews.com> <e4locj$irj$1@reader1.panix.com> <RP2dnSZp64qbEvLZRVn-iA@sigecom.net>

In <RP2dnSZp64qbEvLZRVn-iA@sigecom.net> "Bruce Mercer" <maxbud12@XXXsigecom.net> writes:

>Ok Mullen, you're not supposed to be looking at radios...go stand in the 
>corner. ;-0 

   Can't.  No room in the corners. :)

-- 
                                        Tim Mullen
------------------------------------------------------------------
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------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 -------


Article: 334730 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertbob1@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 14:12:28 -0700
Message-ID: <mku672hb7a4shjabtg3ipvasdfl8g8p14b@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-2305061527230001@216-80-74-244.d.enteract.com>

On Tue, 23 May 2006 15:27:23 -0500, jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) wrote:

>Is your email down? <snip>

SEVERAL of his emails are now down...permanently.

Who says netcopping doesn't work?


Article: 334731 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertbob1@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: rca audio generator - tmv-134a
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 14:14:07 -0700
Message-ID: <hnu6721agikmnjgf1s0jk8ls50ug5lbcni@4ax.com>
References: <1148417719.712079.185520@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 23 May 2006 13:55:19 -0700, bc191f@gmail.com wrote:

>Wonderful little giz
>
>Anyone ever see such? <snip>

Yes, they heterodyned to get the higher band, and they're notoriously
unstable, both short and long term.  Fun to have as a collectable; not
worth much on the bench.


Article: 334732 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: - exray - <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: FA : Fada 1940's
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 17:32:46 -0400
Message-ID: <1276vs2nmmefg5f@corp.supernews.com>
References: <sVJcg.1199$%Z2.178048@news20.bellglobal.com>

Normand Dumoulin wrote:
> have a look, nice item
> 
> under ebay name alphaducentaure
> 
> 
No thanks,

-Bill


Article: 334733 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Why is Scott 800 considered a dog?
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 21:38:17 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <e4vvc9$km4$2@reader1.panix.com>
References: <1148172956.724731.3650@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148176508.873116.233960@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5oQbg.982312$xm3.147473@attbi_s21>

In <5oQbg.982312$xm3.147473@attbi_s21> k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) writes:

>In article <1148176508.873116.233960@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, 
>menwagoh@msn.com says...

>>The couple of 800B I've had were just as good as any of the earlier
>>models, maybe better. Excellent design, excellent build. Stupendous
>>sound.
>>
>all of what he said... nothing wrong with them other than they
>just aren't "desirable" to collectors.. 

   The cabinets are downright dowdy, if not fugly.  They only
look good out of the cabinet, but they don't look *quite* right
that way, either.  The bottom front apron isn't chromed, and
the "wings" with the pushbuttons are somewhat unfinished in
appearance.

   Plus, it seems they must have made a metric buttload of
these.  A lot of folks have them, and every time you turn
around one's for sale.

-- 
                                        Tim Mullen
------------------------------------------------------------------
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------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 -------


Article: 334734 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Why is Scott 800 considered a dog?
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 21:43:07 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <e4vvlb$km4$3@reader1.panix.com>
References: <1148172956.724731.3650@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148176508.873116.233960@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5oQbg.982312$xm3.147473@attbi_s21> <KoOdnR9YsPcJYvLZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com>

In <KoOdnR9YsPcJYvLZnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@comcast.com> "Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> writes:

>Its sad that the general public never gets to see all the neat stuff we have
>in radio...   all the sets get hauled to our shows only, and dont get as
>much $$ there.  Like the mention before of "how many radios have been on
>Antiques Roadshow?"  not many.

   We're a niche hobby.  Think about how many more people collect glass
or pottery.  You have to admit it's a helluva lot easier -- no recapping
or anything. :)  And everybody has furniture, even us.

   That said, yeah, I wish they'd show more stuff I'm interested in.
It's always a treat when *something* technological comes on, even if
it's a magic latern.  Hey, I'll take what I can get!

-- 
                                        Tim Mullen
------------------------------------------------------------------
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------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 -------


Article: 334735 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Verne Folk <radioactive@zoominternet.net>
Subject: Re: Bendix 1970/71 Cuda Schematic
Date: 23 May 2006 14:59:42 -0700
Message-ID: <e500ke0mga@drn.newsguy.com>
References: <e4nb0801auk@drn.newsguy.com> <e4nfbu01lmb@drn.newsguy.com> <446F45D5.257D809@earthlink.net> <e4nkak022ap@drn.newsguy.com> <446FB252.E5A013B7@earthlink.net> <d5Dcg.7419$Ar6.125@trnddc02>

In article <d5Dcg.7419$Ar6.125@trnddc02>, Gary Tayman says...
>
>These radios were not exactly fantastic, but they were a vast improvement 
>over the 1963-66 pieces of crap found in Fords, Volkswagens, and Mopars. 
>Almost daily I get inquiries about fixing one of these for a Thunderbird, 
>and I turn them down.  I'll do a conversion, but forget about the original 
>radio.
>
>The 1967 and up were better; however as others have said, align it per the 
>book.
>
>
>
>-- 
>Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical
>Sound Solutions For Classic Cars
>http://www.taymanelectrical.com
>
>
>"Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote in message 
>news:446FB252.E5A013B7@earthlink.net...
>> Verne Folk wrote:
>>>
>>> In article <446F45D5.257D809@earthlink.net>, Michael A. Terrell says...
>>> >
>>> >Verne Folk wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> In article <e4nb0801auk@drn.newsguy.com>, Verne Folk says...
>>> >> >
>>> >>>Guys and Gals; I'm in need of the schematic for this auto radio. Only 
>>> >>>markings
>>> >> >on case are Bendix and MARK.  Thanks, verne
>>> >> >
>>> >>Did some research and found that this unit is a 2884 759 OBBJ and is 
>>> >>listed in
>>> >> Sam's AR 89.  Thanks again, verne
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >   I have a copy of AR-89 if you need any of the information.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> Michael:  I would pay for a copy of the service info for this radio. 
>>> Actually
>>> all I would need is the schematic and transistor listing.  I have 6 of 
>>> these
>>> units. The radios all works but after RF/IF alignment they  just don't 
>>> perform
>>> very well. All IFs peak well and all coils have continuity. Might be that 
>>> these
>>> radios were poor performers to begin with.  verne
>>
>>
>>   From what I remember, the early Bendix solid state care radios
>> weren't very good.  Did you use the right "dummy antenna" when you
>> aligned the radio, and did you have the proper alignment procedure?
>> These inductor tuned radios are very picky in how you align them.  I'll
>> dig out the schematic & parts list and contact you.
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> My sig file can beat up your sig file! 
>
>Guys and Gals:  But I don't have the service info on these bad boys.  verne



Article: 334736 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Re: Dayton HamFest killed by OBSCENE ADMISSION $$$
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 18:52:50 -0400
Message-ID: <12774i26pgrtt9b@corp.supernews.com>
References: <vbJbg.36281$mh.29156@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> <9d2d5$44704bda$d1cc5848$21530@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <4471305D.9090001@qth.com> <9e0$4471c68b$d1cc45cc$5357@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <44731F41.5070102@fuse.net>


"jawod" <jawod@fuse.net> wrote in message news:44731F41.5070102@fuse.net...
>
> I honestly don't think $25 is that out of line.

I thought someone here was selling tickets for over a hundred bucks- perhaps 
this is for vendors?

$25- is half what it costs to get into AWA antique radio conventions for 
it's true that's not too bad. Hosstraders IIRC is still like $12- though :). 
I usually go in the Fall as it's not far for me.

John H. 




Article: 334737 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Ken <wklwns@cox.net>
Subject: Re: FA : Fada 1940's
References: <sVJcg.1199$%Z2.178048@news20.bellglobal.com>
Message-ID: <tEMcg.437$f76.288@dukeread06>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 19:11:20 -0400

Learn to send the auction link, much less trouble for your future 
customers. Ken

Normand Dumoulin wrote:

> have a look, nice item
> 
> under ebay name alphaducentaure
> 
> 



Article: 334738 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Bill Janssen <billj@ieee.org>
Subject: Re: rca audio generator - tmv-134a
References: <1148417719.712079.185520@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <hnu6721agikmnjgf1s0jk8ls50ug5lbcni@4ax.com>
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>On 23 May 2006 13:55:19 -0700, bc191f@gmail.com wrote:
>
>  
>
>>Wonderful little giz
>>
>>Anyone ever see such? <snip>
>>    
>>
>
>Yes, they heterodyned to get the higher band, and they're notoriously
>unstable, both short and long term.  Fun to have as a collectable; not
>worth much on the bench.
>  
>
That was the standard way to get a wide band audio generator before 
Hewlett and Packard
came out with their oscillator. Western Electric had a 19C oscillator 
using the same arrangement.

Bill K7NOM

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Article: 334739 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "John Strunck" <kc5ngx@hot.rr.com>
Subject: Variac Question
Message-ID: <92Ocg.57112$Qq.51561@tornado.texas.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 00:47:01 GMT

Hello All,


 Can I use a Variac in place of an isolation transformer?


Thank You,

John




Article: 334740 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: rca audio generator - tmv-134a
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 17:36:26 -0700
Message-ID: <n0a7721c0i5epop541lil16dshdokpb93t@4ax.com>
References: <1148417719.712079.185520@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <hnu6721agikmnjgf1s0jk8ls50ug5lbcni@4ax.com> <%%Mcg.1790$oa1.1777@news02.roc.ny>

On Tue, 23 May 2006 23:36:27 GMT, Bill Janssen <billj@ieee.org> wrote:

>That was the standard way to get a wide band audio generator before 
>Hewlett and Packard
>came out with their oscillator. Western Electric had a 19C oscillator 
>using the same arrangement. <snip>

We had literally tons of those things left over from the old lease
line days before data.  Although they'd still work, they were
notoriously unable to keep calibration for long and were predictably
drifty in comparison to the new stuff we were using by the '70s.  The
21A set was a single stage 20-20K that was somewhat better, but
neither could match a good 200CD for stability, both in amplitude and
frequency.  Even that paled to the synthesized TIMS that were then
coming into vogue, along with the TTI office tone sources.  Those
became necessities because of the stability needed in doing phase
jitter and impulse noise testing using a 1004 Hz carrier tone with a
Bradley vector scope and hit counter.  Those old boatanchors would
show phase hits right out of the output jacks.


Article: 334741 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com>
References: <a6Qbg.311$W97.160@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <hgacg.6128$y4.2967@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <a5mdncWDlts13-zZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <Drtcg.6034$8G3.1855@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <Feqdnbmzva5wPe_ZRVn-rA@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: 38-116 output transf? Its the right one!
Message-ID: <ztOcg.1235$W97.1078@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 01:16:15 GMT

Thats a thought,
another thought I had was to find a 38-116 on Ebay and ask the seller to 
check the output transformer, sure enough there was another code 125 on 
there and it has the same 32-7864 I have!!
(and some folks say there is no good use for Ebay!)  :-)

SO...  Now Im thinking I have the CORRECT output transformer.  Still, both 
6L6's in and it sounds distored and little bass, one out and it starts 
motorboating on higher volume, swap sides and it sounds much better and that 
cone starts moving with the Bass.

I traced out the circuit, everything checks , all the caps are changed 
out... DC looks OK,  a real stumper!  Fresh mind tonight,  maybe Ill catch 
it this time.

Keith


"Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message 
news:Feqdnbmzva5wPe_ZRVn-rA@comcast.com...
> Keith,
>
> I have a stereo on my bench for my listening enjoyment while I service. 
> The
> aux input doubles as a sig tracer when a scavanged Heathkit probe (with
> diode switch) is Y'd into it.  Its a HIFI sig tracer.  Gotta watch it on
> levels that you dont blow out your nice speakers, however.
>
> Mark Oppat
>
>
> "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:Drtcg.6034$8G3.1855@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> Mark!  tisk tisk!  at least use a dud in the other socket ;-)
>> The audio through the drive seems to be OK, kinda hard to get bass
> response
>> on the heathkit signal tracer so I really need to use a scope.  Im going
> to
>> noodle a bit more and Ill let everyone know, and check out the final 
>> audio
>> train a bit more carefully.
>>
>> Thanks, all
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> "Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message
>> news:a5mdncWDlts13-zZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> > Robt Casey wrote:
>> >> Check that the audio signals feeding the output tube grids are okay.
>> >
>> >
>> > Exactly my thoughts.... I just had one of those RCA R7 tombstones in
>> > here...
>> > PP47 output,  I chased some hum and distortion around it for an hour or
>> > two
>> > after recapping it.  THEN I got smart, and pulled one of the tubes and
> it
>> > got cleaner and the hum died down...  turns out half the input xfmer 
>> > was
>> > open,  AND I had missed a shorted #47 tube!   Anyways, this set has 
>> > gain
>> > to
>> > burn, so it ran just great with one 47...  so that's the way she went
>> > out...
>> > with the other socked taped over.
>> >
>> > Mark Oppat
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 




Article: 334742 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com>
References: <tdCdnTJg56UcLO_ZRVn-tA@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: Silvertone console, not mine, one of the best...in Texas
Message-ID: <IyOcg.1236$W97.1111@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 01:21:44 GMT

Nice set.... but OH  we gotta educate the Ebay public somehow, to NOT PLUG 
IT IN!!
Are you seeing the same increase in Burned out power transformers that I 
have over the past couple years?

Ya'd think that the threat of electrocution from plugging in a 60 or 70 year 
old peice of electronics would be a deterrant but....

Keith


"Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message 
news:tdCdnTJg56UcLO_ZRVn-tA@comcast.com...
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Silvertone-Console-Tube-Radio-Huge-Gold-Dial-Floor-4586_W0QQitemZ6632059107QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> this is one of the nicer Silvertone consoles.  Its got the great '37 gold
> dial, which I love... check all the stuff on it... sun, moon, stars, 
> waves,
> rays... its so cool.
> might have a bad tranny but that can be replaced... could have the owner
> pull the rectifier and test the tranny...  since he's got a tube tester 
> and
> all... must be some kinda collector.
>
> Mark Oppat
>
>
> 




Article: 334743 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Gary Tayman" <caradio@verizon.net>
References: <WbWdnZjSAMYCc-zZ4p2dnA@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: Mopar 800 radio dialcord debacle!
Message-ID: <uKOcg.56887$ge7.51577@trnddc01>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 01:34:18 GMT

You stick to home radios, I stick with . . .

 . . . on second thought, I don't feel like stringing that dial either!

Then again, I can't count the number of people who have given me horror 
stories about the dial strings on 47 Cadillacs.  I never knew there were so 
many of those, but I've sure heard the complaints.  I don't know what the 
problem is, I can do it in five minutes.  To me it's one of the easier ones.

-- 
Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical
Sound Solutions For Classic Cars
http://www.taymanelectrical.com


"Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message 
news:WbWdnZjSAMYCc-zZ4p2dnA@comcast.com...
> Just spent about 3.5 hours last night trying to get the dial pointer 
> strung
> correctly on a '41 Dodge radio...!  I only had a SAMS for the Mopar 802 
> dial
> cord, it turns out its different...so, I FINALLY get it to work, install 
> the
> faceplate,  two hours later I got the set working (I had recapped it the 
> day
> before) and the dial is backwards!  Now I gotta reverse it...
> ARRGGGHHH!!!
>
> Mark Oppat
>
>
> 




Article: 334744 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Tim Mullen <tim@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Mopar 800 radio dialcord debacle!
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 01:35:06 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <e50d8a$emt$1@reader1.panix.com>
References: <WbWdnZjSAMYCc-zZ4p2dnA@comcast.com> <4471F20C.3CC6AD79@earthlink.net>

In <4471F20C.3CC6AD79@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net> writes:

>   Mark, would you please set the clock on your computer? its at least
>20 minutes fast.

>  BTW, you might want to check and replace the battery if it gained that
>time over a short period of time.  They run a little faster just before
>the battery dies.

   No onboard clock is very accurate.  They were never meant to be.

   http://ntp.org.  It's free.  It works.

-- 
                                        Tim Mullen
------------------------------------------------------------------
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------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 -------


Article: 334745 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" <kc4yoy@NOSPAM.carolina.rr.com>
References: <1148433378.885714.35520@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: help identify this radio cabinet
Message-ID: <X4Pcg.3873$Qg.2798@tornado.southeast.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 01:58:15 GMT


Eddie Brimer <eb062559@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1148433378.885714.35520@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
> i am speaking of the cabinet with the door open in this picture with
> the AK cathedral on top.
>
> http://members.aol.com/EB062559/radiobar.jpg


It takes an AK model 44. I'm surprised being the "expert"
collector you are you didn't know that.
I have a Spanish Pooley cabinet with the same cutouts
and a model 44 inside.

Ron





Article: 334746 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: snarl@tripodd.net
Subject: Re: Silvertone console, not mine, one of the best...in Texas
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 19:03:30 -0700
Message-ID: <7if77257b5tqtkg9sishqqffgoirjt2apl@4ax.com>
References: <tdCdnTJg56UcLO_ZRVn-tA@comcast.com> <IyOcg.1236$W97.1111@twister.nyroc.rr.com>

On Wed, 24 May 2006 01:21:44 GMT, "Keith Park"
<topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com> wrote:

>Nice set.... but OH  we gotta educate the Ebay public somehow, to NOT PLUG 
>IT IN!!
>Are you seeing the same increase in Burned out power transformers that I 
>have over the past couple years?
>
>Ya'd think that the threat of electrocution from plugging in a 60 or 70 year 
>old peice of electronics would be a deterrant but....

We heat our house and cook on a 1932 Monarch wood/coal stove.  My
daily mode of transportation is a 1937 Harley-Davidson.  I'm going  to
listen to a Seattle Mariners baseball game in 2 minutes on a 1935
Silvertone, 7 tube, 3 band console.

Snarl



Article: 334747 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Jim Barnard" <jbarnard@ftc-i.net>
Subject: SB-303
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 22:10:36 -0400
Message-ID: <e50fas$7ld0$1@news3.infoave.net>

I am looking for a power cord for my Heathkit SB-303 that I am restoring. 
Should  you have one available, please contact me at jbarnard@ftc-i.net

Thanks, Jim 




Article: 334748 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Nelson Gietz" <ngietz@mts.net>
References: <a6Qbg.311$W97.160@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <hgacg.6128$y4.2967@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <a5mdncWDlts13-zZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <Drtcg.6034$8G3.1855@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <Feqdnbmzva5wPe_ZRVn-rA@comcast.com> <ztOcg.1235$W97.1078@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: 38-116 output transf? Its the right one!
Message-ID: <n8Qcg.3167$hq2.1493@newsfe22.lga>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 22:11:25 -0500


"Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com> wrote in message
news:ztOcg.1235$W97.1078@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Thats a thought,
> another thought I had was to find a 38-116 on Ebay and ask the seller to
> check the output transformer, sure enough there was another code 125 on
> there and it has the same 32-7864 I have!!
> (and some folks say there is no good use for Ebay!)  :-)
>
> SO...  Now Im thinking I have the CORRECT output transformer.  Still, both
> 6L6's in and it sounds distored and little bass, one out and it starts
> motorboating on higher volume, swap sides and it sounds much better and
that
> cone starts moving with the Bass.
>
> I traced out the circuit, everything checks , all the caps are changed
> out... DC looks OK,  a real stumper!  Fresh mind tonight,  maybe Ill catch
> it this time.
>
> Keith
>
Keith,
    This is just a shot in the dark from someone who doesn't know enough...
but is there
ANY chance connections from one of the two secondaries from the driver
transformer
is reversed?
    Nelson




Article: 334749 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Variac Question
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 19:56:51 -0700
Message-ID: <aqi77296t2giu5bijkn21j1uustd5oe3t3@4ax.com>
References: <92Ocg.57112$Qq.51561@tornado.texas.rr.com>

On Wed, 24 May 2006 00:47:01 GMT, "John Strunck" <kc5ngx@hot.rr.com>
wrote:

>Hello All,
>
>
> Can I use a Variac in place of an isolation transformer? <snip>

No.  A Variac (actually the trade name for variable transformers built
by General Radio; others are posuers) is an autotransformer.


Article: 334750 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: - exray - <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: 38-116 output transf? Its the right one!
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 23:25:53 -0400
Message-ID: <1277ki7129g72d8@corp.supernews.com>
References: <a6Qbg.311$W97.160@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <hgacg.6128$y4.2967@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <a5mdncWDlts13-zZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <Drtcg.6034$8G3.1855@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <Feqdnbmzva5wPe_ZRVn-rA@comcast.com> <ztOcg.1235$W97.1078@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <n8Qcg.3167$hq2.1493@newsfe22.lga>

Nelson Gietz wrote:

> "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:ztOcg.1235$W97.1078@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> 
>>Thats a thought,
>>another thought I had was to find a 38-116 on Ebay and ask the seller to
>>check the output transformer, sure enough there was another code 125 on
>>there and it has the same 32-7864 I have!!
>>(and some folks say there is no good use for Ebay!)  :-)
>>
>>SO...  Now Im thinking I have the CORRECT output transformer.  Still, both
>>6L6's in and it sounds distored and little bass, one out and it starts
>>motorboating on higher volume, swap sides and it sounds much better and
> 
> that
> 
>>cone starts moving with the Bass.
>>
>>I traced out the circuit, everything checks , all the caps are changed
>>out... DC looks OK,  a real stumper!  Fresh mind tonight,  maybe Ill catch
>>it this time.
>>
>>Keith
>>
> 
> Keith,
>     This is just a shot in the dark from someone who doesn't know enough...
> but is there
> ANY chance connections from one of the two secondaries from the driver
> transformer
> is reversed?
>     Nelson
> 
> 

Couldn't an open driver xfmr create these symptoms?

-Bill


Article: 334751 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" <kc4yoy@NOSPAM.carolina.rr.com>
References: <1148433378.885714.35520@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>  <X4Pcg.3873$Qg.2798@tornado.southeast.rr.com> <1148436388.650925.201070@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: help identify this radio cabinet
Message-ID: <PrQcg.3880$Qg.1166@tornado.southeast.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 03:30:55 GMT

Sounds good to me Eddie but beware I sometimes make
smart ass comments to my friends.

No, I never seen an AK bar in that cabinet.
Does it have any of the glassware with it?
Is the bar section lined with mirrors?
Model 44s are around, shouldn't be too much
trouble to find one. The nice thing about using one in
a cabinet like this is that the paint can be bad and no one will
be able to see it.
I'll look through my AK/Pooley papers and see if there's
anything there on a bar.
Ralph Muchow had an AK bar, if I can find the photos
I'll see what model it was, I seem to remember it being
somewhat later than a 44.

Ron

Eddie Brimer <eb062559@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1148436388.650925.201070@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
> thanks ron...i think. can we call a truce on the smart ass comments?
> i'm game if you are. let's be friends. should have asked you an AK
> question to begin with.  have you ever seen a bar like this? what is a
> good offer on the cabinet?
>




Article: 334752 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" <kc4yoy@NOSPAM.carolina.rr.com>
References: <1148433378.885714.35520@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: help identify this radio cabinet
Message-ID: <xzQcg.3883$Qg.2520@tornado.southeast.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 03:39:09 GMT


> the AK cathedral on top.

That's a nice looking AK model 82, is going to be
for sale too? Original grill cloth, nice finish.
Someone should jump on it if it's for sale.
I have an 82 and an 82Q, really nice cathedrals.

Ron

--

Radio Collection Web Page,
http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com





Article: 334753 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jim Mueller <wrongname@nospam.com>
Subject: Re: Variac Question
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 21:54:49 -0700
Message-ID: <pan.2006.05.24.04.54.49.228749@nospam.com>
References: <92Ocg.57112$Qq.51561@tornado.texas.rr.com>

On Wed, 24 May 2006 00:47:01 +0000, John Strunck wrote:

> Hello All,
> 
> 
>  Can I use a Variac in place of an isolation transformer?
> 
> 
> Thank You,
> 
> John

There are some Variacs that have isolation built-in but they are large,
expensive, and almost never seen (either new or used).  The only place I
have ever seen one is in a catalog.

-- 
Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com

To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz.
Then replace nospam with sacbeemail.


Article: 334754 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "k35454" <k35454@direct.ca>
References: <a6Qbg.311$W97.160@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <hgacg.6128$y4.2967@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <a5mdncWDlts13-zZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <Drtcg.6034$8G3.1855@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <Feqdnbmzva5wPe_ZRVn-rA@comcast.com> <ztOcg.1235$W97.1078@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: 38-116 output transf? Its the right one!
Message-ID: <t2Scg.17244$jb2.1367@newsfe14.phx>
Date: Tue, 23 May 2006 22:20:52 -0700

Two questions: (1) is this PP amp driven by a phase inverter or by a
transformer, and (2) do these 6L6's test similar, and can you lay hands on
more of them for comparison?  k35454.                   Keith Park"
<topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com> wrote in message
news:ztOcg.1235$W97.1078@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
Thats a thought,
another thought I had was to find a 38-116 on Ebay and ask the seller to
check the output transformer, sure enough there was another code 125 on
there and it has the same 32-7864 I have!!
(and some folks say there is no good use for Ebay!)  :-)

SO...  Now Im thinking I have the CORRECT output transformer.  Still, both
6L6's in and it sounds distored and little bass, one out and it starts
motorboating on higher volume, swap sides and it sounds much better and that
cone starts moving with the Bass.

I traced out the circuit, everything checks , all the caps are changed
out... DC looks OK,  a real stumper!  Fresh mind tonight,  maybe Ill catch
it this time.

Keith


"Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message
news:Feqdnbmzva5wPe_ZRVn-rA@comcast.com...
> Keith,
>
> I have a stereo on my bench for my listening enjoyment while I service.
> The
> aux input doubles as a sig tracer when a scavanged Heathkit probe (with
> diode switch) is Y'd into it.  Its a HIFI sig tracer.  Gotta watch it on
> levels that you dont blow out your nice speakers, however.
>
> Mark Oppat
>
>
> "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:Drtcg.6034$8G3.1855@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> Mark!  tisk tisk!  at least use a dud in the other socket ;-)
>> The audio through the drive seems to be OK, kinda hard to get bass
> response
>> on the heathkit signal tracer so I really need to use a scope.  Im going
> to
>> noodle a bit more and Ill let everyone know, and check out the final
>> audio
>> train a bit more carefully.
>>
>> Thanks, all
>>
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> "Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message
>> news:a5mdncWDlts13-zZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>> > Robt Casey wrote:
>> >> Check that the audio signals feeding the output tube grids are okay.
>> >
>> >
>> > Exactly my thoughts.... I just had one of those RCA R7 tombstones in
>> > here...
>> > PP47 output,  I chased some hum and distortion around it for an hour or
>> > two
>> > after recapping it.  THEN I got smart, and pulled one of the tubes and
> it
>> > got cleaner and the hum died down...  turns out half the input xfmer
>> > was
>> > open,  AND I had missed a shorted #47 tube!   Anyways, this set has
>> > gain
>> > to
>> > burn, so it ran just great with one 47...  so that's the way she went
>> > out...
>> > with the other socked taped over.
>> >
>> > Mark Oppat
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>





Article: 334755 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Paul P" <paulREMOVE@REMOVEppinyotREMOVE.com>
References: <92Ocg.57112$Qq.51561@tornado.texas.rr.com> <1148431857.110713.216480@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <BfednYuXT-iNLe7ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@giganews.com>
Subject: Re: Variac Question
Message-ID: <fjWcg.1601$GN4.282@trndny07>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 10:11:23 GMT

Additionally a Variac is a single winding "Autotransformer".

PP


"Phil Nelson" <philnelson@nospam.xyz> wrote in message 
news:BfednYuXT-iNLe7ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@giganews.com...
> And for more (and more, and more) discussions which compare and contrast 
> the two devices, you can find the archived messages of this group at:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/rec.antiques.radio+phono?hl=en
>
> If you search for topics such as "variac" and "isolation transformer" 
> you'll find much to read!
>
> Regards,
>
> Phil Nelson
> Phil's Old Radios
> http://antiqueradio.org/index.html
>
> 




Article: 334756 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "MarkS" <mshucks2@earthlink.net>
References: <tdCdnTJg56UcLO_ZRVn-tA@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: Silvertone console, not mine, one of the best...in Texas
Message-ID: <RNWcg.198$bt4.58@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 10:44:01 GMT

Nice radio, it looks like it has a replacement vertical mount transformer
already. Hmmm.
MarkS


"Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message
news:tdCdnTJg56UcLO_ZRVn-tA@comcast.com...
>
http://cgi.ebay.com/Silvertone-Console-Tube-Radio-Huge-Gold-Dial-Floor-4586_W0QQitemZ6632059107QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> this is one of the nicer Silvertone consoles.  Its got the great '37 gold
> dial, which I love... check all the stuff on it... sun, moon, stars,
waves,
> rays... its so cool.
> might have a bad tranny but that can be replaced... could have the owner
> pull the rectifier and test the tranny...  since he's got a tube tester
and
> all... must be some kinda collector.
>
> Mark Oppat
>
>
>




Article: 334757 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: 38-116 output transf? Its the right one!
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <a6Qbg.311$W97.160@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <hgacg.6128$y4.2967@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <a5mdncWDlts13-zZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <Drtcg.6034$8G3.1855@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <Feqdnbmzva5wPe_ZRVn-rA@comcast.com> <ztOcg.1235$W97.1078@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <t2Scg.17244$jb2.1367@newsfe14.phx>
Message-ID: <_cZcg.1062$No1.151@attbi_s71>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 13:29:30 GMT

In article <t2Scg.17244$jb2.1367@newsfe14.phx>, k35454@direct.ca says...
>
>


pair of 6L6 tubes are transformer driven... so could be a problem
there .... ohm meter readings would show this... primary 1/2s and
secondary.... plus ohm meter on the output tranny to be sure they
have it hooked up right also... 

schematic even shows ohm meter ohm readings for the transformers...

John k9uwa


>Two questions: (1) is this PP amp driven by a phase inverter or by a
>transformer, and (2) do these 6L6's test similar, and can you lay hands on
>more of them for comparison?  k35454.



Article: 334758 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 07:18:44 -0700
Message-ID: <pdq872tro6c6fqfod0ettr21g9q7cspj08@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-2305061527230001@216-80-74-244.d.enteract.com> <1148469742.590632.88770@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>

On 24 May 2006 04:22:22 -0700, "Stream Bred Brown Eye"
<streambredbrownie@yahoo.com> wrote:

>John, I replied to you on the Motorola a few days ago.  I'll send
>another email now.
>
>Before reading any replies here, yesterday I decided to change out all
>the power supply caps, and also the (2) large black 20mf caps on each
>monoblock.  I removed the existing caps and checked them all, and they
>were all within 10% of the spec, except for one that was about 20% off. <snip>

And just HOW did you "check" them, moron?  Chintzy little "cap
checkers" are virtually useless in such an application.
>
>This required that I put in 2 caps where there was one 2-part lytic
>can, in each monoblock. <snip>

What a friggin' genius.

>While removing and soldering the new ones in, I found something very
>peculiar.
>
>One of the 20mf caps on the "bad" monoblock, was installed BACKWARDS. <snip>

Figures.

>These 20 mf caps in each monoblock should be installed with positive
>ends facing the middle of chassis.  One had the positive end facing
>out.  It was soldered in backwards on polarity.  Also it was the one
>that was 20% out on spec.
>
>Here's the funny part- these are ORIGINAL CAPS, they were like this
>since the unit was made.
>
>Being I have another Akai M8 that works fine, I went to it and checked-
>sure enough, it verified what I found- the bad unit had a 20mf cap
>installed backwards, from the factory. <snip>

And you know it came from the "factory" how?
>
>I soldered in all the new caps, correcting the polarity problem on the
>one cap, and the unit is playing evenly from both channels now, but
>still doesn't seem to have the output that my other M8 has.  The VU
>meters don't climb to max level when volume is turned up, when using
>line input jacks.  But it does still sound quite good. <snip>

So, the synopsis is, it's still screwed up after your hamfisted
tinkering, but it's good enough for an uneducated lout like
you...right Noodles?
>
>I will look into the coupling caps you guys mentioned, next.
>
>These Akai M8's have a phono in jack, where the deck can be used an a
>stereo amp. They also have a line in jack, and when the deck is put in
>record mode, you can turn the tape motor off with a separate switch,
>and disengage the capstan- and the deck will play a CD or tape input
>through the line in jacks as well.  No mods needed. <snip>

Who cares?  It's an OLD JAPANESE RTR..nothing more.
>
>The nice part about it is, you get to keep the original reel to reel
>function as well, if needed. <snip>

RTR at 7½ IPS is pearls before swine with Noodles.  8 track's about as
"hi-fi" as he ever gets.

So when's this one going on Audiogon, as Graham ably predicted, listed
as "mint?"  Where are you going to flog that Fisher that didn't sell?
Remember, you have to hide it from us really well, or your right wing
whackjob friends will all be disappointed that you couldn't pull off
yet another swindle.


Article: 334759 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jeffrey D Angus <jangus@socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   <eoOdndbUp9TBhO7ZRVn-gw@comcast.com> <1148481927.833748.151710@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <Br_cg.7047$uM4.2802@tornado.socal.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:53:21 GMT



CAINE wrote:
> it was mint, when I bought it
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9706648023

"This deck is in very good cosmetic condition for it's age. It has
some minor scuffs and scratches, but no major damage."

I would hardly call that mint. Good condition yes, mint no. And
apparently the seller had the same opinion.

Jeff

-- 
RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to
the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal
force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED
under the Internal Security Act of 1950.


Article: 334760 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner)
Subject: THE HIGH COST OF SHIPPING.
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 10:17:22 -0500
Message-ID: <18948-44747902-44@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net>

I SHIPPED 3 LB 1.40 OZ PARCEL TO OHIO YESTERDAY.  IT WASN'T MUCH TO BE
SHIPPED, JUST 6 PCS OF 1/4" 5 PLY PLYWOOD 6 1/2" SQUARE AND 6 PCS OF
MOLDABLE PLASTIC WITH PROTECTIVE COATING ON EACH SIDE,  AND A PAGE OF
INSTRUCTIONS.  THIS COST $6.62.  THAT SURE DOESN'T LEAVE MUCH OF THE
$18.00 COST.


CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com
Bill Turner, excuse  caps, short answers, stroke.
Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide.  






Article: 334761 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg)
Subject: Re: help identify this radio cabinet
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 09:01:51 -0700
Message-ID: <3019-4474836F-41@storefull-3116.bay.webtv.net>
References: <X4Pcg.3873$Qg.2798@tornado.southeast.rr.com>

I would say either the model 38 or model 44.        I have a model 44
and it is a good set. The center cutouts are for the emblem and stage
switch.



Article: 334762 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: jimfberg@webtv.net (Jim Berg)
Subject: Re: 38-116 output transf?
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 09:16:34 -0700
Message-ID: <3019-447486E2-43@storefull-3116.bay.webtv.net>
References: <a6Qbg.311$W97.160@twister.nyroc.rr.com>

The 38-116 code 125 I have has the same number including the N suffix.
Has the driver transformer been replaced? It is 32-7865-T and is at the
back of the chassis in the center. I would check it with you ohm meter.



Article: 334763 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: szekeres@pitt.edu (GregS)
Subject: Re: Why did E.H. Scott used aluminum shields?
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 16:34:30 GMT
Message-ID: <e521vb$njq$2@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
References: <1148181110.704775.155090@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7padnf76qOso2u3ZRVn-rA@comcast.com> <1148482528.426246.157300@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

In article <1148482528.426246.157300@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote:
>I will not pick over nits already found. But note the interpolations.
>
>William Sommerwerck wrote:
>> > Scott used chrome-plated aluminum for tube and coil shields on Allwave,
>> > Philharmonic, and Phantom models. I have heard that this combination

I just wanted to comment, and I have no idea why Scott did what they did.
When I first started working for Digital in 1969, a bunch of us were from
Pittsburgh staying at the Maynard Motel. We were all getting drunk one night when
I really looked over and was curious of the next building. I walked through
the 17 inches of snow and was peaking in the front window. Everything became
clear as having looked at a Scott brochure, I saw that anecoic chamber and all
kind of neat things inside. I was impressed as being a audio buff kinda guy.
One of the guys at work had his wife build a Heath AR-15?, because she
was one of the equipment builders at Scott.
End of story
greg


Article: 334764 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 09:57:37 -0700
Message-ID: <j249725go67j0uvuhvojbie7bqkvtduub5@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <eoOdndbUp9TBhO7ZRVn-gw@comcast.com> <1148481927.833748.151710@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <Br_cg.7047$uM4.2802@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1148482872.036833.145230@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 24 May 2006 08:01:12 -0700, "CAINE" <streambredbrownie@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>And what business is it, of yours ? <snip>

Perhaps, like me, some people have a sense of right and wrong, and
would love to see a fraudster/con artist, like you, go down the
crapper.


Article: 334765 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 09:59:41 -0700
Message-ID: <p449729p42oqc20clo4ja7es9fu28jopr8@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   <eoOdndbUp9TBhO7ZRVn-gw@comcast.com> <1148481927.833748.151710@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <Br_cg.7047$uM4.2802@tornado.socal.rr.com> <K_6dnR40S8iIHenZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com>

On Wed, 24 May 2006 08:47:36 -0700, "graham" <grahamiba@comcast.net>
wrote:

>... it is amazing, maybe he waves his 'cane' over it and "Presto"
>    a mint unit appears ... Webster says, mint: unmarred, as if
>    fresh from a mint ... could it be he means, it tastes like mint
>    or smells like mint .... hard to imagine ...  <snip>

Aha...we've defined the secret to NudoFraud® Industries' "mint
reconditioning"...spritz the worn out piece of crap with spearmint
Listerine!

Too bad you didn't patent that process, Noodles.  Now, we'll all use
it!


Article: 334766 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 10:01:44 -0700
Message-ID: <094972191rr8kv3ouv2u1neuntup17q0l5@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-2305061527230001@216-80-74-244.d.enteract.com> <1148469742.590632.88770@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <pdq872tro6c6fqfod0ettr21g9q7cspj08@4ax.com> <1148483043.127849.205550@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 24 May 2006 08:04:03 -0700, "CAINE" <streambredbrownie@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>Where's YOUR Akai M8 ?? <snip>

Who the hell wants one?  I have plenty of Ampexes (300, 351 and 440)
to handle all my tape needs.

I'm betting large that this fraudster will try to flog this hapless
thing on some site we haven't discovered yet.  He knows we're wise to
Audiogon.


Article: 334767 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Paul P" <paulREMOVE@REMOVEppinyotREMOVE.com>
References: <92Ocg.57112$Qq.51561@tornado.texas.rr.com>   <1148431857.110713.216480@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>   <BfednYuXT-iNLe7ZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@giganews.com> <1148483009.634009.90320@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Variac Question
Message-ID: <PI0dg.2492$FQ4.1492@trndny06>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 17:28:15 GMT

Go Dawg Go!

PP :)
"Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:1148483009.634009.90320@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> You mean I don't get to RANT????
>
> Peter Wieck
> Wyncote, PA
> 




Article: 334768 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Paul P" <paulREMOVE@REMOVEppinyotREMOVE.com>
References: <92Ocg.57112$Qq.51561@tornado.texas.rr.com>   <aqi77296t2giu5bijkn21j1uustd5oe3t3@4ax.com> <1148484774.574849.235660@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Variac Question
Message-ID: <uK0dg.1480$au4.370@trndny08>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 17:30:02 GMT


"Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:1148484774.574849.235660@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> General Radio owns the *Trademark* "Variac. There are considerable (and
> some very good) makers of Variable autotransformers. So, all "Variacs"
> are variable autotransformers, but not all variable autotransformers
> are Variacs. The "THING" is the transformer, not the trademark.
>
> The term is P-o-s-e-u-r, from the French. Like Bombarde (vs. Bombard)
> It means one who poses as something that they are not. I don't think
> that Staco, Superior, PowerStat and any of several others would be too
> pleased at being called "Posuers" (sic) as they are most definitely
> make some very good variable autotransformers.
>
> Then, there is Kleenex, Xerox, Aspirin, Astro-Turf, Baggies, Cyclone
> (fencing), Dumpster, Ethernet, Freon, through Zodiac (rubber boat)...
> and many dozens of others. All present and former Trademarks on the
> Threatened list. Aspirin, for example, remains a trademark of Bayer
> most everywhere except the Americas and parts of _western_ Europe.
>
>
> Peter Wieck
> Wyncote PA
>

AAaahhh.  That's better! I  feel complete now.

PP  :) 




Article: 334769 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Paul P" <paulREMOVE@REMOVEppinyotREMOVE.com>
References: <1148315789.131789.24580@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Using a potentiometer to determine  resistor value....
Message-ID: <vP0dg.5400$nA2.1169@trndny01>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 17:35:23 GMT


"Stephanie Weil" <stephanienyc@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1148315789.131789.24580@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Has anyone tried this trick when replacing the selenium diode on a
> battery/mains portable?
>
> SInce you have to put a resistor in series with a diode on these
> radios, I was wondering if using a linear taper potentiometer would be
> a good plan to figure out what fixed-value resistor to buy later.
>
> Figured just monitoring the B-plus voltage on a meter as you twiddle
> the pot up and down?
>
> I'm tempted to try that with a co-worker's Philco that I received for
> repair.
>

I can appreciate the technical discussion as much as the next guy or Gal. 
But.....Are you not replacing the Selenium Diode because (and not limited 
to) the possibility that it has deteriorated?  Would that not make the 
resistance reading invalid (for that purpose)?

Just go ahead replace the thing with a new device and use a method to set 
the proper B+ with specced line volts.

Again I do appreciate the technical discussion.  Gets the brain juices 
flowing.

PP 




Article: 334770 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 10:32:20 -0700
Message-ID: <ec4972dhttf7hjas5nmhjkr782ci543tb5@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-2305061527230001@216-80-74-244.d.enteract.com> <1148469742.590632.88770@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <pdq872tro6c6fqfod0ettr21g9q7cspj08@4ax.com> <1148483043.127849.205550@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148486793.194779.47490@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

On 24 May 2006 09:06:33 -0700, "Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote:

>For reel-tape functions, I use a Revox A77 road-deck <snip>

Might as well go for the best!  I had a B77 at home, but worked with
many Studer products over the years.  Tough to work on when repair is
needed, but the results are uniformly sublime.  ATR-100 Ampexes come
very close with a large increase in size.

>From the schematic, I see a simple single-impedance output transformer,
>apparently board-mounted, so not much choice for speakers there. But,
>whatever blows your dress  up. You seem to like it. <snip>

Ignorance is bliss...and Noodles has the ignorance market cornered. He
probably thinks records were mastered on those things.

>Websters:
>
>Main Entry: mint
>Function: adjective
>: unmarred as if fresh from a mint <in mint condition>
>
>Dictionary.com:
>
>Mint
>
>adj : as if new; "in mint condition"
>
>Encarta:
>
>adjective
>
>Definition: in perfect condition: in perfect condition as when first
>made
>in mint condition
>
>OED:
>
>· adjective in pristine condition; as new.
>
>So, whatever your M8 may or may not be, it ain't nohow "Mint". <snip>

However, it IS destined for sale...somewhere.  We just don't know
where...yet.


Article: 334771 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-CORRECTION-C7 and R22 were problems
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 10:34:25 -0700
Message-ID: <n669725db2eq4de5nb0gfknjroqvjfbiof@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-2305061527230001@216-80-74-244.d.enteract.com> <1148481865.043890.57750@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 24 May 2006 07:44:25 -0700, "CAINE" <streambredbrownie@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>heads up guys- I misread the schematic- <snip>

Why doesn't this surprise me?
>
>furthermore- since I got this deck, it seemed to play "ok" with
>headphones albeit reduced output from the bad channel- but when hooked
>to the external speakers, can't drive them as well and becomes
>distorted at high volume setting- <snip>

Knowing your general ignorance and like of "lo-fi" sound, I'm
surpirsed you didn't confuse the distortion with "detail."


Article: 334772 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: THE HIGH COST OF SHIPPING.
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 10:38:34 -0700
Message-ID: <ee6972hpg0qs7dn8e63blv39p51ecs21hq@4ax.com>
References: <18948-44747902-44@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net>

On Wed, 24 May 2006 10:17:22 -0500, dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner)
wrote:

>I SHIPPED 3 LB 1.40 OZ PARCEL TO OHIO YESTERDAY.  IT WASN'T MUCH TO BE
>SHIPPED, JUST 6 PCS OF 1/4" 5 PLY PLYWOOD 6 1/2" SQUARE AND 6 PCS OF
>MOLDABLE PLASTIC WITH PROTECTIVE COATING ON EACH SIDE,  AND A PAGE OF
>INSTRUCTIONS.  THIS COST $6.62.  THAT SURE DOESN'T LEAVE MUCH OF THE
>$18.00 COST. <snip>

Uh...been watching the price of fuel lately?  Get used to it...it's
going to get a LOT worse.

Why are you yelling?  Or, is this a handicapped vision accommodation?
If so, I can relate, as caps was the the only way I could read
anything for about a year after recoving from double angle closure
glaucoma.


Article: 334773 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Variac Question
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 10:36:42 -0700
Message-ID: <ta6972hdokm25b6cv9f5qkeul5cqb6tmg8@4ax.com>
References: <92Ocg.57112$Qq.51561@tornado.texas.rr.com> <aqi77296t2giu5bijkn21j1uustd5oe3t3@4ax.com> <1148484774.574849.235660@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 24 May 2006 08:32:54 -0700, "Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote:

>General Radio owns the *Trademark* "Variac. There are considerable (and
>some very good) makers of Variable autotransformers. So, all "Variacs"
>are variable autotransformers, but not all variable autotransformers
>are Variacs. The "THING" is the transformer, not the trademark.
>
>The term is P-o-s-e-u-r, from the French. Like Bombarde (vs. Bombard)
>It means one who poses as something that they are not. I don't think
>that Staco, Superior, PowerStat and any of several others would be too
>pleased at being called "Posuers" (sic) as they are most definitely
>make some very good variable autotransformers. <snip>

They're just not "Variacs," in the pure sense.  However, like the
English call all vacuum cleaners "Hoovers" (Dyson must have a fit
about that!) and all PA systems "Tannoys", the term has become
generic, especially since GenRad gave up the ghost on that product
many moons ago.

I have the original, TYVM!


Article: 334774 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: To Charlie the Dirtbag: FALSE ADVERTISING ON EBAY
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 10:39:49 -0700
Message-ID: <1i69729bc25e77r964vnb3s8j5birhta7o@4ax.com>
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On 24 May 2006 08:55:59 -0700, "AuroraOldRadios" <menwagoh@msn.com>
wrote:

>Wrong about religion being #1 cause of war. Religion is used as a
>pretext for wars of conquest, genocide, and aggression. Jesus Christ
>was never involved in any wars or military action. <snip>

So, the right wing church nutters in the US are basically what I've
said all along...."christian talibaners!"


Article: 334775 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "k35454" <k35454@direct.ca>
References: <a6Qbg.311$W97.160@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <hgacg.6128$y4.2967@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <a5mdncWDlts13-zZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <Drtcg.6034$8G3.1855@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <Feqdnbmzva5wPe_ZRVn-rA@comcast.com> <ztOcg.1235$W97.1078@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <t2Scg.17244$jb2.1367@newsfe14.phx> <_cZcg.1062$No1.151@attbi_s71>
Subject: Re: 38-116 output transf? Its the right one!
Message-ID: <9b1dg.1534$sf6.1111@newsfe12.phx>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 11:01:06 -0700

Since it makes a difference which 6L6 is in which socket, has it been
ascertained that the speaker voice coil moves freely in both directions ?
k35454.
"John Goller, k9uwa" <k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF> wrote in message
news:_cZcg.1062$No1.151@attbi_s71...
In article <t2Scg.17244$jb2.1367@newsfe14.phx>, k35454@direct.ca says...
>
>


pair of 6L6 tubes are transformer driven... so could be a problem
there .... ohm meter readings would show this... primary 1/2s and
secondary.... plus ohm meter on the output tranny to be sure they
have it hooked up right also...

schematic even shows ohm meter ohm readings for the transformers...

John k9uwa


>Two questions: (1) is this PP amp driven by a phase inverter or by a
>transformer, and (2) do these 6L6's test similar, and can you lay hands on
>more of them for comparison?  k35454.




Article: 334776 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Ken <wklwns@cox.net>
Subject: Re: THE HIGH COST OF SHIPPING.
References: <18948-44747902-44@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net>
Message-ID: <2w1dg.645$f76.54@dukeread06>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:22:52 -0400

Lighten up on Bill, guys. We're all bitchin about shipping costs. Ken

Bill Turner wrote:

> I SHIPPED 3 LB 1.40 OZ PARCEL TO OHIO YESTERDAY.  IT WASN'T MUCH TO BE
> SHIPPED, JUST 6 PCS OF 1/4" 5 PLY PLYWOOD 6 1/2" SQUARE AND 6 PCS OF
> MOLDABLE PLASTIC WITH PROTECTIVE COATING ON EACH SIDE,  AND A PAGE OF
> INSTRUCTIONS.  THIS COST $6.62.  THAT SURE DOESN'T LEAVE MUCH OF THE
> $18.00 COST.
> 
> 
> CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com
> Bill Turner, excuse  caps, short answers, stroke.
> Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide.  
> 
> 
> 
> 



Article: 334777 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: szekeres@pitt.edu (GregS)
Subject: Re: Why did E.H. Scott used aluminum shields?
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 19:58:14 GMT
Message-ID: <e52dtc$qi6$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>
References: <1148181110.704775.155090@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <7padnf76qOso2u3ZRVn-rA@comcast.com> <1148482528.426246.157300@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <e521vb$njq$2@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu> <jbyrns-2405061426490001@216-80-74-32.d.enteract.com>

In article <jbyrns-2405061426490001@216-80-74-32.d.enteract.com>, jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) wrote:
>In article <e521vb$njq$2@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu>, szekeres@pitt.edu
>(GregS) wrote:
>
>> In article <1148482528.426246.157300@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>"Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote:
>> >I will not pick over nits already found. But note the interpolations.
>> >
>> >William Sommerwerck wrote:
>> >> > Scott used chrome-plated aluminum for tube and coil shields on Allwave,
>> >> > Philharmonic, and Phantom models. I have heard that this combination
>> 
>> I just wanted to comment, and I have no idea why Scott did what they did.
>> When I first started working for Digital in 1969, a bunch of us were from
>> Pittsburgh staying at the Maynard Motel. We were all getting drunk one
>night when
>> I really looked over and was curious of the next building. I walked through
>> the 17 inches of snow and was peaking in the front window. Everything became
>> clear as having looked at a Scott brochure, I saw that anecoic chamber and
> all
>> kind of neat things inside. I was impressed as being a audio buff kinda guy.
>> One of the guys at work had his wife build a Heath AR-15?, because she
>> was one of the equipment builders at Scott.
>> End of story
>> greg
>
>That building in Maynard was H.H.Scott, a completely different company and
>unrelated to E.H.Scott!
>
>
>Regards,
>
>John Byrns

Well that screws that up!

greg


Article: 334778 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Lou deGonzague <zenith@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-2305061527230001@216-80-74-244.d.enteract.com> <1148469742.590632.88770@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <pdq872tro6c6fqfod0ettr21g9q7cspj08@4ax.com> <1148483043.127849.205550@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148486793.194779.47490@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148498168.630583.67000@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148499253.763127.147840@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-2405061453470001@216-80-74-32.d.enteract.com>
Message-ID: <Ln3dg.7058$8G3.4419@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 20:30:35 GMT

Another source for SE 6BQ5 stereo amps are the Newcomb school type 
record players. I have one here and the transformers are a good size and 
the unit is well constructed. Uses 2 6BR8  tubes for preamps. If someone 
wants it for $100 let me know.

John Byrns wrote:
> In article <1148499253.763127.147840@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "Peter
> Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote:
> 
>> The M8 may not be quite as common as dirt, but a SE EL84/6BQ5 *pentode*
>> based amp similar to what is in the Akai is as common as dirt. I own no
>> less than four of them, culled from many more when I reduced my
>> Euro-Radio collection from six to three and my post-war Zenith
>> tabletops from six to one. _All_ of them use a SE, pentode-connected
>> EL84.
> 
> Peter, can you supply model numbers for the SE EL84 based Zeniths?
> 
>> One of the Euro-radio output transformers is tapped for both a
>> woofer and a tweeter, one that 'went away' was also tapped for
>> electrostatic 'super tweeters'.
> 
> That is very unusual, most of the "Euro-radios" with "electrostatic super
> tweeters" that I have seen just connect the "super tweeters" to the plate
> of the EL84, no special output transformer taps required for this purpose.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> John Byrns
> 
> 
> Surf my web pages at,  http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/


Article: 334779 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Gary Tayman" <caradio@verizon.net>
References: <WbWdnZjSAMYCc-zZ4p2dnA@comcast.com>   <uKOcg.56887$ge7.51577@trnddc01>   <1148437987.546067.11700@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <jtTcg.6038$p13.3354@trnddc07>   <1148454309.942912.272560@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148454418.214345.78520@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Mopar 800 radio dialcord debacle!
Message-ID: <PA3dg.8133$Ar6.5535@trnddc02>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 20:44:31 GMT

Well, it kinda matches the mentality of the guy who designed the radio.

In 1951, Cadillac offered an optional upgrade radio.  The standard radio had 
pushbuttons.  The "upgrade" had only a "Selector" bar.  If you press the 
selector, the tuner would move to the next station.  The trouble is, this is 
the ONLY way to tune stations!  You keep hitting the bar until it 
(hopefully) stops at your station!  The only thing the right knob does is 
raise and lower the antenna.

I'm not sure what year, but I think 1953, Cadillac went with an E-Series 
tuner.  I think it became standard.  With the E-Series, you set the stations 
by opening a little trap door and moving around some red tabs.  When you hit 
the corresponding pushbutton, the wonderbar mechanism is activated and the 
dial moves until it stops (again, hopefully) at the preset station.  If you 
press the wonderbar, all the buttons pop out and it stops at every station. 
Cute, but once again there is no tuning knob.  Chevy, Pontiac, Olds, Buick, 
Packard, and even De Soto/Chrysler had these tuners, but WITH a tuning knob. 
Cadillac didn't wise up and put the knob back on until 1956.  By 1957 the 
E-Series was pretty much gone, although a few still lingered.  It's a cute 
idea, but it stinks.


-- 
Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical
Sound Solutions For Classic Cars
http://www.taymanelectrical.com




"Steven" <thisjukeboxplays33rpm@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1148454418.214345.78520@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Sorry, matches the post about postile dysfunction I guess.
> 




Article: 334780 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:14:55 -0700
Message-ID: <c5j972h4ppj7r5qlpj134sr3v3eqd80ob1@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <eoOdndbUp9TBhO7ZRVn-gw@comcast.com> <1148481927.833748.151710@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <Br_cg.7047$uM4.2802@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1148482872.036833.145230@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <j249725go67j0uvuhvojbie7bqkvtduub5@4ax.com> <1148492843.016566.211810@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148497424.515193.146930@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-2405061441370001@216-80-74-32.d.enteract.com>

On Wed, 24 May 2006 14:41:37 -0500, jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) wrote:

>In article <1148497424.515193.146930@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>"CAINE" <streambredbrownie@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> have you ever heard him fix ONE unit up, and post about it here on this
>> site ?
>> 
>> for someone that is supposed to be so electronically skilled, all he
>> does is post on the old shitty Usenet- he talks a good job, that's
>> about it
>
>He doesn't even do that, in a recent thread in rec.audio.tubes Floyd
>Davidson appears to have caught him in several lies. <snip>

Floyd's a little light in the loafers on some issues.  He's right
about some things, wrong about others.  Such is Usenet!


Article: 334781 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:15:44 -0700
Message-ID: <37j972pcvq4f51nqjoia79qb25aqupqtdj@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <eoOdndbUp9TBhO7ZRVn-gw@comcast.com> <1148481927.833748.151710@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <Br_cg.7047$uM4.2802@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1148482872.036833.145230@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <j249725go67j0uvuhvojbie7bqkvtduub5@4ax.com> <1148492843.016566.211810@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-2405061433330001@216-80-74-32.d.enteract.com>

On Wed, 24 May 2006 14:33:32 -0500, jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) wrote:

>> Anyone get the irony here?
>
>Yes, I got it right away, but there is much irony here these days. <snip>

The irony is that Byrns is a troll, allying with a troll...Noodles.


Article: 334782 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:18:22 -0700
Message-ID: <h8j972heqjf0b393ni2dpantle3nfbrj8m@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <eoOdndbUp9TBhO7ZRVn-gw@comcast.com> <1148481927.833748.151710@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <Br_cg.7047$uM4.2802@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1148482872.036833.145230@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <j249725go67j0uvuhvojbie7bqkvtduub5@4ax.com> <1148497509.793925.262760@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

On 24 May 2006 12:05:09 -0700, "CAINE" <streambredbrownie@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>I can call it anything I want, it's not for sale- so what's it to you ? <snip>

No, you cannot.  Calling a "good" piece of equipment "mint" is false
advertising in any court in the land.
>
>And if it WAS for sale, you can disagree, and not bid on it. <snip>

Who'd WANT it?  Not me!  Especially after you've had your fat, alfredo
sauce covered hands in it.
>
>Right and wrong has got nothing to do with it. <snip>

Yes, it has EVERYTHING to do with it.
>
>It's a matter of opinion. <snip>

Remember, this guy, Charlie Nudo, is the guy who said that if you
don't get caught speeding, there's no violation of the law.  He
figures his frauds on eBay and elsewhere to be the same way...it's not
wrong if you don't get caught.

Funny thing is the various 'tards in here that are allying themselves
with this loser.

Such is Usenet!


Article: 334783 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Beerbarrel <beerbarrel@cox.net>
Subject: Re: THE HIGH COST OF SHIPPING.
Message-ID: <nak972pcejcl3gag43qm99surehra512vv@4ax.com>
References: <18948-44747902-44@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 17:35:17 -0400

On Wed, 24 May 2006 10:17:22 -0500, dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner)
wrote:

>I SHIPPED 3 LB 1.40 OZ PARCEL TO OHIO YESTERDAY.  IT WASN'T MUCH TO BE
>SHIPPED, JUST 6 PCS OF 1/4" 5 PLY PLYWOOD 6 1/2" SQUARE AND 6 PCS OF
>MOLDABLE PLASTIC WITH PROTECTIVE COATING ON EACH SIDE,  AND A PAGE OF
>INSTRUCTIONS.  THIS COST $6.62.  THAT SURE DOESN'T LEAVE MUCH OF THE
>$18.00 COST.
>
>
>CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com
>Bill Turner, excuse  caps, short answers, stroke.
>Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide.  
>
>
>


Open a fedex account. It cost me 13 dollars to ship a package that
weighed 37 lbs to from Macon, Ga to Kenner, La yesterday.
__________________________________________________________

KE4ODD

Service to my country? Me too and I've got my DD214 and 5 point veteran preference to
prove it. 


*Used with express written permission of its creator.


Article: 334784 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:24:04 -0700
Message-ID: <9lj9729bega56sk5qcdp8p9jdl4u3s9u8c@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-2305061527230001@216-80-74-244.d.enteract.com> <1148469742.590632.88770@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <pdq872tro6c6fqfod0ettr21g9q7cspj08@4ax.com> <1148483043.127849.205550@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148486793.194779.47490@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148497233.199122.315870@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148498681.761511.102940@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 24 May 2006 12:24:41 -0700, "Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote:

>Oh, very damned few "single-ended monoblocks" are based on the
>EL34/6BQ5. That particular tube (a pentode, and pentode-connected in
>the Akai) <snip>

Tada!  Remember, he was calling them "SET" amps awhile back, not even
knowing what "SET" meant.  He's been hanging in the "audiophool" rooms
too much...again.

Give an idiot powerful toys....


Article: 334785 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:22:09 -0700
Message-ID: <kdj9729vmasclanh2t9lq9mntln8hfc1oj@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-2305061527230001@216-80-74-244.d.enteract.com> <1148469742.590632.88770@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <pdq872tro6c6fqfod0ettr21g9q7cspj08@4ax.com> <1148483043.127849.205550@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148486793.194779.47490@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148497233.199122.315870@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 24 May 2006 12:00:33 -0700, "CAINE" <streambredbrownie@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>That's funny...someone a few days ago was asking here, "where would he
>I ever get to hear a single ended amp ?"
>
>suddenly they are as easy to find as trees in Pa. ??
>
>actually, SE amps are a lot harder to come by, then the push pull types <snip>

To you, at least...just rag pick some old console stereos or jap tape
decks.  What an idiot.
>
>that's why a bare SE amp goes for $100 on Ebay <snip>

No one said there weren't a lot of idiots out there!
>
>it's just that the ebay crowd has not caught on, to the M8 phenomenon
>
>yet... <snip>

ROFLMAO!
>
>the beauty of the unit is the monoblocks are modular design, they
>unbolt with 2 screws from the front, and a few plugs in the back <snip>

You don't even know what the term "monoblock" means...tardo boy.
>
>instant dual monoblocks, leaving the reel section behind
>
>see it here, mine while servicing
>
>http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=10mlu09 <snip>

Nothing but pictures of young boys.  Really, Noodles...you should take
your pedophelia elsewhere.  It's inappropriate here.

>this is what an aftermarket set of dual monoblocks goes for, next link
>
>http://www.decware.com/Monoblocks/zmono.htm
>
>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9723676376&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&rd=1
>
>so what would you prefer, 2 single ended monoblocks for around $2000 to
>$2500 a pair ?
>
>or the same thing, for $100 and a little refurbishing ? <snip>

Pffft!  Two 6BQ5s (68Q5 to Noodles...until he realized he misread the
tube numbers...duh) in parallel?  Give me a break.
>
>ps- there's a reason why they get $2000 for dual monoblocks SE amps-
>they have the best sound on the planet for the price, and they are
>expensive to build.  To make the Akai units today with new parts, the
>unit would cost MORE than $2000, Akais have superior power supply
>transformers in them <snip>

You're nuttier than a fruitcake, that's all THAT proves.  Add a
generous dollop of stupidity, and you have Charlie Nudo.


Article: 334786 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:35:41 -0700
Message-ID: <tck972lr022n18s8nqeb21m9b45bk8r0m0@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-2305061527230001@216-80-74-244.d.enteract.com> <1148469742.590632.88770@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <pdq872tro6c6fqfod0ettr21g9q7cspj08@4ax.com> <1148483043.127849.205550@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148486793.194779.47490@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148498168.630583.67000@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 24 May 2006 12:16:08 -0700, "CAINE" <streambredbrownie@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>currently, there are NONE on Ebay- that says something- people are <snip>

...throwing them out.


Article: 334787 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: THE HIGH COST OF SHIPPING.
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:37:26 -0700
Message-ID: <iek972l5kdbsv97531d9a32kjj3tgltrgr@4ax.com>
References: <18948-44747902-44@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1148498676.646956.256550@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148505785.521769.137570@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>

On 24 May 2006 14:23:05 -0700, "BH" <bhagen@msn.com> wrote:

>Hi Guys:
>
>Bill is one of the good guys - both a collector and a specialty
>supplier and he does have a vision problem. <snip>

I can completely empathize.  I had the aforementioned ophthalmological
disorder, and I almost lost my sight in both eyes.  Fortunately, my
non-profit HMO has a staff of excellent ophthalmologists, and I was
spared.  Nothing worse than having 20/10 and then losing it.


Article: 334788 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:37:51 -0700
Message-ID: <8hk9725n5lnnm9rgp42cdf4imj092tuo10@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   <jbyrns-2305061527230001@216-80-74-244.d.enteract.com>   <1148469742.590632.88770@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>   <pdq872tro6c6fqfod0ettr21g9q7cspj08@4ax.com>   <1148483043.127849.205550@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <1148486793.194779.47490@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148497233.199122.315870@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <iJCdndSmkbwMVOnZRVn-ig@comcast.com>

On Wed, 24 May 2006 14:01:10 -0700, "graham" <grahamiba@comcast.net>
wrote:

>
>"CAINE" <streambredbrownie@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
>news:1148497233.199122.315870@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>
>> actually, SE amps are a lot harder to come by, then the push pull types
>
>.. not true ...
>
>> that's why a bare SE amp goes for $100 on Ebay
>
>.. that is not why
>
>> it's just that the ebay crowd has not caught on, to the M8 phenomenon
>
>....... now that's funny ... does the 'M' stand for mint? <snip>

No...in Noodles' case, it stands for "moron"...capitalize the M for
effect.


Article: 334789 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 14:41:19 -0700
Message-ID: <khk9729dvg6909ipv20i2gte2kohhdtups@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <eoOdndbUp9TBhO7ZRVn-gw@comcast.com> <1148481927.833748.151710@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <Br_cg.7047$uM4.2802@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1148482872.036833.145230@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <j249725go67j0uvuhvojbie7bqkvtduub5@4ax.com> <1148492843.016566.211810@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148497424.515193.146930@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 24 May 2006 12:03:44 -0700, "CAINE" <streambredbrownie@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>good point- in his mind, it was "right" to forge email messages, saying
>he started the alt.8track group and wanted it axed into archive only-
>and he got caught <snip>

Never said that, never did that...more delusions from a mental patient
not getting treatment.
>
>it's also "right" in his mind, to not work, and sit back and sponge off
>the system- even though he has no health problems <snip>

I worked hard for my pension...which you'll never get, because you
cannot hold a gainful job.  What was that about running a garage for
twelve years and winding up out of business?  What happened?  Too much
FRAUD?  That'll close down a small business faster than anything.
>
>the guy sits around smelling at his computer terminal all day <snip>

All this bile, simply because his spam accounts are getting picked
off...one by one.
>
>have you ever heard him fix ONE unit up, and post about it here on this
>site ? <snip>

I don't "fix" things like you do, Noodles.  Besides, I'm not into old
wooden radios.  The only one that qualifies as "old" is an old Philco
Transitone, which is awaiting parts now.  My grand aunt bought it new
circa '49.  Has the newly-reopened 1700 KHz area on the AM band, too!
>
>for someone that is supposed to be so electronically skilled, all he
>does is post on the old shitty Usenet- he talks a good job, that's
>about it <snip>

That's because Usenet is Usenet, you're on "goo goo groopz," and you
haven't the brains to know the difference.  Who was it on Usenet who
was claiming he had an Akai with "SET" amps with "68Q5" tubes?
Duhhhhhh....

Why don't you gather up your troll pals, and go play on the Pennsy
Pike...in front of some oncoming trucks?


Article: 334790 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: THE HIGH COST OF SHIPPING.
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 15:02:27 -0700
Message-ID: <dhl97258d770rraktme2ae2aa7gauid8j8@4ax.com>
References: <18948-44747902-44@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <nak972pcejcl3gag43qm99surehra512vv@4ax.com>

On Wed, 24 May 2006 17:35:17 -0400, Beerbarrel <beerbarrel@cox.net>
wrote:

>Open a fedex account. It cost me 13 dollars to ship a package that
>weighed 37 lbs to from Macon, Ga to Kenner, La yesterday. <snip>

FedMex...highest damage rate in the LTL/parcel business and the worst
record at claims adjustment...even worse than the now-gone Airborne. I
had FedMex' idiots drive over a $35K piece of telecom gear, smashing
the chassis, the motherboard and all the daughter cards installed
within. First, they claimed it was "at the hands of others."  Huh??
After a YEAR of wrangling, they finally said that without going to
court, they'd pay $5K...period.  After company legal got a court date
for a prelim, THEN they settled for the full amount, but took three
months to forward payment.  Never again.

Thanks, I'll stick with USPS or UPS.  I've only had one damage claim
with UPS over the years, and they paid it off within 60 days.


Article: 334791 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Lou deGonzague <zenith@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Variac Question
References: <92Ocg.57112$Qq.51561@tornado.texas.rr.com>
Message-ID: <Tm5dg.7067$8G3.5251@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 22:46:11 GMT

One unit that I have will do both jobs is an RCA VIZ WP-27A. It is an 
isolation transformer(400 watts) that allows variable voltage in 5 volt 
increments from 25v to 150v. Now add a 0-150 watt meter or 0-2 amp AC 
meter and you really know what's going on.

John Strunck wrote:
> Hello All,
> 
> 
>  Can I use a Variac in place of an isolation transformer?
> 
> 
> Thank You,
> 
> John
> 
> 


Article: 334792 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Jon" <jon@NOscapturaSPAM.com>
References: <odqdnWKpLpL5RenZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
Subject: Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages
Message-ID: <F36dg.1402$W97.185@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 23:33:57 GMT

"Phil Nelson" <philnelson@nospam.xyz> wrote in message 
news:odqdnWKpLpL5RenZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Does anybody else hate working on these things?
>
> http://antiqueradio.org/art/temp/PhilcoMess.jpg
>
> Not to mention those delicious loktal tubes.
>
> This one had a sentimental connection, but . . . no more!
>
> :-)
>
> Phil Nelson
> Phil'sOld Radios
> http://antiqueradio.org/index.html
>
>

I've been working on and off on a 42-1010 with the beam of light changer. 
Not fun. I've got it to play, but because I need a coil, I can only play 
some of a shortwave band.   Actually getting clean sound, albeit low, from 
the beam of light, but the changer needs new rubber throughout and plays way 
off speed. I think I'm in over me head on the changer, but can get the radio 
playing if I only could find the coil I need.


-- 
Jon Scaptura
Endicott, NY

See my antique radios here:
http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/
and the workbench webcam:
http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam




Article: 334793 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Variac Question
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 16:28:30 -0700
Message-ID: <rvq972pv5mkfkq2t575f2vr8mdhc1nm4u7@4ax.com>
References: <92Ocg.57112$Qq.51561@tornado.texas.rr.com> <Tm5dg.7067$8G3.5251@twister.nyroc.rr.com>

On Wed, 24 May 2006 22:46:11 GMT, Lou deGonzague <zenith@nycap.rr.com>
wrote:

>One unit that I have will do both jobs is an RCA VIZ WP-27A. <snip>

What ever happened to VIZ?  I know I got some parts to fix up a couple
of old VoltOhmists years ago.  Are they gone too?


Article: 334794 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Lou deGonzague <zenith@nycap.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages
References: <odqdnWKpLpL5RenZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
Message-ID: <1t6dg.1415$W97.541@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 00:01:01 GMT

Piece of cake, get a Majestic 50 or 130A for real fun. Then call a 
chiropractor to fix your back!

Phil Nelson wrote:
> Does anybody else hate working on these things?
> 
> http://antiqueradio.org/art/temp/PhilcoMess.jpg
> 
> Not to mention those delicious loktal tubes.
> 
> This one had a sentimental connection, but . . . no more!
> 
> :-)
> 
> Phil Nelson
> Phil'sOld Radios
> http://antiqueradio.org/index.html
> 
> 


Article: 334795 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Hagstar" <yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net>
Subject: Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 20:08:26 -0400
Message-ID: <1279tbsmr71mu56@corp.supernews.com>
References: <odqdnWKpLpL5RenZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com>

Ah Grasshopper...............

 I know you don't usually restuff so the new caps will have a LOT more room 
once the old giant ones are out.
I agree that looks untidy though- all the more reason it's a good one to 
deliberately NOT restuff !

John H. 




Article: 334796 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Paul Dietenberger" <pdieten@NyOaShPoAoM.com>
References: <1148514977.021966.158500@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Free to good home plus shipping, Powerstat WBD450
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 19:14:50 -0500
Message-ID: <4474e98e$0$24198$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>

It's a variable transformer. Check your e-mail.

-paul

"AuroraOldRadios" <menwagoh@msn.com> wrote in message 
news:1148514977.021966.158500@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Free to good home plus shipping, Powerstat WBD450. I don't want to use
> the word Variac, so I won't. In a metal box with 2 wire AC in and 2
> wire AC out. Tag inside says Luxtrol Light Control. Black/white 120vac
> in. Red/white 0-120vac out. 450w, 3.75 A.
> I checked it with my volt/ohm meter and it does work, peaks out at
> 120vac. Weighs probably 15 pounds or so. I'd definitely update the
> wiring to modern standards (if possible, I don't know, I'm no BSEE) and
> fuse it before using it. I think the previous owner used it like a
> V*****c. All the usual disclaimers apply.
> Just pay the shipping from 80013.
> 



*** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com ***


Article: 334797 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: THE HIGH COST OF SHIPPING.
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 18:31:15 -0600
Message-ID: <16-4474FAD3-148@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net>
References: <4474ECEB.1B303176@earthlink.net>

There is to much bitching on this newsgroup over nothing . The general
tone here can suck you in and get you to print out all kinds of junk ...
me included .

It is as clear as clear can be that bill is commenting on the higher
cost of shipping these days . 

Stop analyzing simple things so much and smile once & a while :-)



Article: 334798 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com>
References: <a6Qbg.311$W97.160@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <hgacg.6128$y4.2967@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <a5mdncWDlts13-zZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <Drtcg.6034$8G3.1855@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <Feqdnbmzva5wPe_ZRVn-rA@comcast.com> <ztOcg.1235$W97.1078@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <n8Qcg.3167$hq2.1493@newsfe22.lga>
Subject: Re: 38-116 output transf? Its the right one!
Message-ID: <De7dg.1425$W97.860@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 00:53:55 GMT

Good idea!  I did swap them last night... it got worse, but Im getting clued 
in, more work tommoro night.

Thanks

Keith


"Nelson Gietz" <ngietz@mts.net> wrote in message 
news:n8Qcg.3167$hq2.1493@newsfe22.lga...
>
> "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:ztOcg.1235$W97.1078@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>> Thats a thought,
>> another thought I had was to find a 38-116 on Ebay and ask the seller to
>> check the output transformer, sure enough there was another code 125 on
>> there and it has the same 32-7864 I have!!
>> (and some folks say there is no good use for Ebay!)  :-)
>>
>> SO...  Now Im thinking I have the CORRECT output transformer.  Still, 
>> both
>> 6L6's in and it sounds distored and little bass, one out and it starts
>> motorboating on higher volume, swap sides and it sounds much better and
> that
>> cone starts moving with the Bass.
>>
>> I traced out the circuit, everything checks , all the caps are changed
>> out... DC looks OK,  a real stumper!  Fresh mind tonight,  maybe Ill 
>> catch
>> it this time.
>>
>> Keith
>>
> Keith,
>    This is just a shot in the dark from someone who doesn't know enough...
> but is there
> ANY chance connections from one of the two secondaries from the driver
> transformer
> is reversed?
>    Nelson
>
> 




Article: 334799 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com>
References: <a6Qbg.311$W97.160@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <hgacg.6128$y4.2967@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <a5mdncWDlts13-zZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <Drtcg.6034$8G3.1855@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <Feqdnbmzva5wPe_ZRVn-rA@comcast.com> <ztOcg.1235$W97.1078@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <n8Qcg.3167$hq2.1493@newsfe22.lga> <CDRcg.7036$y4.2866@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: 38-116 output transf? Its the right one!
Message-ID: <Ef7dg.1426$W97.811@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 00:55:00 GMT

yes.,  that Im checking tommoro night, driver last night, output tommoro 
night.

Thanks

Keith


"robert casey" <wa2ise@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message 
news:CDRcg.7036$y4.2866@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
> Nelson Gietz wrote:
>
>
>>
>> Keith,
>>     This is just a shot in the dark from someone who doesn't know 
>> enough...
>> but is there
>> ANY chance connections from one of the two secondaries from the driver
>> transformer
>> is reversed?
>>     Nelson
>>
>>
> While you're in there, check that maybe the output transformer primary's 
> center tap isn't connected to one of the output tube plates instead of B+, 
> and visa versa.  Or maybe the secondary is reversed, that would goof up 
> any feedback loop for teh audio amp. 




Article: 334800 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com>
References: <a6Qbg.311$W97.160@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <hgacg.6128$y4.2967@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <a5mdncWDlts13-zZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <Drtcg.6034$8G3.1855@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <Feqdnbmzva5wPe_ZRVn-rA@comcast.com> <ztOcg.1235$W97.1078@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <t2Scg.17244$jb2.1367@newsfe14.phx>
Subject: Re: 38-116 output transf? Its the right one!
Message-ID: <xg7dg.1427$W97.628@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 00:55:57 GMT

Driven by a transformer
Yes, the 6L6's test strong and equil, I do have others and will noodle with 
that idea too.

Keith


"k35454" <k35454@direct.ca> wrote in message 
news:t2Scg.17244$jb2.1367@newsfe14.phx...
> Two questions: (1) is this PP amp driven by a phase inverter or by a
> transformer, and (2) do these 6L6's test similar, and can you lay hands on
> more of them for comparison?  k35454.                   Keith Park"
> <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:ztOcg.1235$W97.1078@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
> Thats a thought,
> another thought I had was to find a 38-116 on Ebay and ask the seller to
> check the output transformer, sure enough there was another code 125 on
> there and it has the same 32-7864 I have!!
> (and some folks say there is no good use for Ebay!)  :-)
>
> SO...  Now Im thinking I have the CORRECT output transformer.  Still, both
> 6L6's in and it sounds distored and little bass, one out and it starts
> motorboating on higher volume, swap sides and it sounds much better and 
> that
> cone starts moving with the Bass.
>
> I traced out the circuit, everything checks , all the caps are changed
> out... DC looks OK,  a real stumper!  Fresh mind tonight,  maybe Ill catch
> it this time.
>
> Keith
>
>
> "Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message
> news:Feqdnbmzva5wPe_ZRVn-rA@comcast.com...
>> Keith,
>>
>> I have a stereo on my bench for my listening enjoyment while I service.
>> The
>> aux input doubles as a sig tracer when a scavanged Heathkit probe (with
>> diode switch) is Y'd into it.  Its a HIFI sig tracer.  Gotta watch it on
>> levels that you dont blow out your nice speakers, however.
>>
>> Mark Oppat
>>
>>
>> "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com> wrote in message
>> news:Drtcg.6034$8G3.1855@twister.nyroc.rr.com...
>>> Mark!  tisk tisk!  at least use a dud in the other socket ;-)
>>> The audio through the drive seems to be OK, kinda hard to get bass
>> response
>>> on the heathkit signal tracer so I really need to use a scope.  Im going
>> to
>>> noodle a bit more and Ill let everyone know, and check out the final
>>> audio
>>> train a bit more carefully.
>>>
>>> Thanks, all
>>>
>>> Keith
>>>
>>>
>>> "Mark Oppat" <moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet> wrote in message
>>> news:a5mdncWDlts13-zZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com...
>>> > Robt Casey wrote:
>>> >> Check that the audio signals feeding the output tube grids are okay.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Exactly my thoughts.... I just had one of those RCA R7 tombstones in
>>> > here...
>>> > PP47 output,  I chased some hum and distortion around it for an hour 
>>> > or
>>> > two
>>> > after recapping it.  THEN I got smart, and pulled one of the tubes and
>> it
>>> > got cleaner and the hum died down...  turns out half the input xfmer
>>> > was
>>> > open,  AND I had missed a shorted #47 tube!   Anyways, this set has
>>> > gain
>>> > to
>>> > burn, so it ran just great with one 47...  so that's the way she went
>>> > out...
>>> > with the other socked taped over.
>>> >
>>> > Mark Oppat
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 




Article: 334801 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Keith Park" <topnotch@nycapnospam.rr.com>
References: <a6Qbg.311$W97.160@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <hgacg.6128$y4.2967@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <a5mdncWDlts13-zZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <Drtcg.6034$8G3.1855@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <Feqdnbmzva5wPe_ZRVn-rA@comcast.com> <ztOcg.1235$W97.1078@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <t2Scg.17244$jb2.1367@newsfe14.phx> <_cZcg.1062$No1.151@attbi_s71> <9b1dg.1534$sf6.1111@newsfe12.phx>
Subject: Re: 38-116 output transf? Its the right one!
Message-ID: <Ph7dg.1428$W97.395@twister.nyroc.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 00:57:19 GMT

yes it does, and now I have the same results from pullin one tube at a 
time... not motorboating any more,,,,  why?  not sure but its pretty clear 
with one tube in but not both.

keith


"k35454" <k35454@direct.ca> wrote in message 
news:9b1dg.1534$sf6.1111@newsfe12.phx...
> Since it makes a difference which 6L6 is in which socket, has it been
> ascertained that the speaker voice coil moves freely in both directions ?
> k35454.
> "John Goller, k9uwa" <k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF> wrote in message
> news:_cZcg.1062$No1.151@attbi_s71...
> In article <t2Scg.17244$jb2.1367@newsfe14.phx>, k35454@direct.ca says...
>>
>>
>
>
> pair of 6L6 tubes are transformer driven... so could be a problem
> there .... ohm meter readings would show this... primary 1/2s and
> secondary.... plus ohm meter on the output tranny to be sure they
> have it hooked up right also...
>
> schematic even shows ohm meter ohm readings for the transformers...
>
> John k9uwa
>
>
>>Two questions: (1) is this PP amp driven by a phase inverter or by a
>>transformer, and (2) do these 6L6's test similar, and can you lay hands on
>>more of them for comparison?  k35454.
>
> 




Article: 334802 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Benjamaniac" <benjamaniac@yahoo.com>
Subject: Long Wave Question
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 20:28:43 -0600
Message-ID: <e534ot$a7of$1@news3.infoave.net>

       Working on that NC-2-40CS I've mentioned and while listening in on 
the long wave band, I keep picking up a code signal on about 360 khz that 
just keeps repeating H T N over and over. Can anyone tell me what this is ?? 
I'm curious.
                 Ben 




Article: 334803 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Gary Tayman" <caradio@verizon.net>
References: <odqdnWKpLpL5RenZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com>
Subject: Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages
Message-ID: <OF8dg.8177$Ar6.1798@trnddc02>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 02:31:10 GMT

Ahhh, time to get out the violins . . . and some cheese to have with that 
whine.

Now it's time to get back to work on these car radios.  If you want to see a 
real can of sardines, look at a Zenith Rotomatic.  I've got a couple of them 
>from 47 Fords.  Not only do they use Loctal tubes, but the sockets are 
famous for what Loctal sockets are famous for, and only a small Chinese 
woman has fingers small enough to pull one of those tubes out.  Recapping is 
fun too -- if only you could get the old ones out.  At some point when I dig 
into these radios, I'll have to post some photos.

I'll also have to show you a Philco chassis from a 50 Studebaker.  As a 
comparison, the Zenith looks like Manhattan and the Philco looks like 
Wyoming.


-- 
Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical
Sound Solutions For Classic Cars
http://www.taymanelectrical.com



"Phil Nelson" <philnelson@nospam.xyz> wrote in message 
news:odqdnWKpLpL5RenZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com...
> Does anybody else hate working on these things?
>
> http://antiqueradio.org/art/temp/PhilcoMess.jpg
>
> Not to mention those delicious loktal tubes.
>
> This one had a sentimental connection, but . . . no more!
>
> :-)
>
> Phil Nelson
> Phil'sOld Radios
> http://antiqueradio.org/index.html
>
> 




Article: 334804 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Gary Tayman" <caradio@verizon.net>
References: <18948-44747902-44@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <LNOdnbOdGtyWmujZRVn-hg@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: THE HIGH COST OF SHIPPING.
Message-ID: <fT8dg.6053$oa3.5866@trnddc08>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 02:45:31 GMT

I'm getting a new engine for my 64 Thunderbird.  Somebody in Pittsville 
Wisconsin is building one right now, and it's exactly the way I want it --  
so he's putting my name on it.

How much to ship a Thunderbird big block 390 engine to Sarasota, Florida?


-- 
Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical
Sound Solutions For Classic Cars
http://www.taymanelectrical.com

(Actually it's been arranged -- somebody will be trucking it down next 
month.  I just posted this as a point to ponder.)


"graham" <grahamiba@comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:LNOdnbOdGtyWmujZRVn-hg@comcast.com...
>
> "Bill Turner" <dialcover@webtv.net> wrote in message 
> news:18948-44747902-44@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net...
>>I SHIPPED 3 LB 1.40 OZ PARCEL TO OHIO YESTERDAY.  IT WASN'T MUCH TO BE
>> SHIPPED, JUST 6 PCS OF 1/4" 5 PLY PLYWOOD 6 1/2" SQUARE AND 6 PCS OF
>> MOLDABLE PLASTIC WITH PROTECTIVE COATING ON EACH SIDE,  AND A PAGE OF
>> INSTRUCTIONS.  THIS COST $6.62.  THAT SURE DOESN'T LEAVE MUCH OF THE
>> $18.00 COST.
>
>
> ... BILL is back and he is bitching ... I think we can
>    all assume that, things are back to normal ...
>    raise you prices BILL, they will pay it ...
>
>
> 




Article: 334805 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: cuhulin@webtv.net
Subject: Re: Why did E.H. Scott used aluminum shields?
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 22:17:14 -0500
Message-ID: <17759-447521BA-10@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1148524973.149034.73400@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>

They had a lot of notions back in those years,both true and false,not
only radios,but many other thingys too.I think they did it for looks.A
classy chassis,as it were.
cuhulin



Article: 334806 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" <kc4yoy@NOSPAM.carolina.rr.com>
References: <e534ot$a7of$1@news3.infoave.net> <44751E08.1090506@adelphia.net>
Subject: Re: Long Wave Question
Message-ID: <k89dg.9439$JW5.4636@southeast.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 03:03:44 GMT

>
> My references sya it a non-directional beacon (NDB) located in
> Miles City, Montana. Frequency listed for HTN is 320 KHz.

That's what I found too.

Ron

--

Radio Collection Web Page,
http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com





Article: 334807 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Long Wave Question
From: "Benjamaniac" <benjamaniac@yahoo.com>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 21:32:40 -0600
Message-ID: <e538gq$ab89$1@news3.infoave.net>
References: <e534ot$a7of$1@news3.infoave.net>

 Thanks guys...I found it listed as a navaid shortly after I posted the 
question. Guess I should have looked farther before I asked...I feel pretty 
silly now.
             Ben 




Article: 334808 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" <kc4yoy@NOSPAM.carolina.rr.com>
References: <1148433378.885714.35520@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>  <xzQcg.3883$Qg.2520@tornado.southeast.rr.com>  <1148473176.398168.86450@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148510444.264094.93050@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: help identify this radio cabinet
Message-ID: <fB9dg.3971$Qg.3423@tornado.southeast.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 03:34:35 GMT

I posted some photos of my Pooley cabinet
AK 44 on the binaries group.

Ron

--

Radio Collection Web Page,
http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com





Article: 334809 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Syl" <personne@perdu.com>
References: <18948-44747902-44@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <LNOdnbOdGtyWmujZRVn-hg@comcast.com> <fT8dg.6053$oa3.5866@trnddc08>
Subject: Re: THE HIGH COST OF SHIPPING.
Message-ID: <jp9dg.102598$yN.1593044@weber.videotron.net>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 23:21:31 -0400

"Gary Tayman" <caradio@verizon.net> wrote in message 
news:fT8dg.6053$oa3.5866@trnddc08...
> I'm getting a new engine for my 64 Thunderbird.  Somebody in Pittsville 
> Wisconsin is building one right now, and it's exactly the way I want it --  
> so he's putting my name on it.
>
> How much to ship a Thunderbird big block 390 engine to Sarasota, Florida?

Can't he just drive it there ?

Syl 




Article: 334810 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Lyndell Scott" <lfscott@flash.net>
References: <18948-44747902-44@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <4474968A.B39D3137@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: THE HIGH COST OF SHIPPING.
Message-ID: <YO9dg.84381$H71.46609@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 03:49:12 GMT

I assume from Bill's post that the shipping is included in the $18 cost, not 
leaving him much profit. May have to let buyer pay shipping or at least part 
of the shipping like most other places on the internet.

-- 

Lyndell Scott
Audio Antiques
http://geocities.com/lfscott@flash.net 




Article: 334811 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Syl" <personne@perdu.com>
References: <18948-44747902-44@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <LNOdnbOdGtyWmujZRVn-hg@comcast.com> <fT8dg.6053$oa3.5866@trnddc08> <jp9dg.102598$yN.1593044@weber.videotron.net> <NrydnekwA-J_t-jZRVn-uA@comcast.com>
Subject: Re: THE HIGH COST OF SHIPPING.
Message-ID: <kladg.16055$DC3.579197@wagner.videotron.net>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 00:25:31 -0400


"graham" <grahamiba@comcast.net> wrote in message 
news:NrydnekwA-J_t-jZRVn-uA@comcast.com...
>
> "Syl" <personne@perdu.com> wrote in message 
> news:jp9dg.102598$yN.1593044@weber.videotron.net...
>> "Gary Tayman" <caradio@verizon.net> wrote in message 
>> news:fT8dg.6053$oa3.5866@trnddc08...
>>> I'm getting a new engine for my 64 Thunderbird.  Somebody in Pittsville 
>>> Wisconsin is building one right now, and it's exactly the way I want 
>>> it --  so he's putting my name on it.
>>>
>>> How much to ship a Thunderbird big block 390 engine to Sarasota, 
>>> Florida?
>>
>> Can't he just drive it there ?
>
>
> .. a carbureted Ford 390 .... it would be cheaper to send it
>   Priority Mail!!!


T'was humour...

Syl 




Article: 334812 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 22:09:15 -0700
Message-ID: <fuea721antv6ig4sbt7kbgujhdheg70754@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-2305061527230001@216-80-74-244.d.enteract.com> <1148469742.590632.88770@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-2405062133030001@216-80-74-101.d.enteract.com>

On Wed, 24 May 2006 21:33:02 -0500, jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) wrote:

>Hi Charlie, don't get hung up on the tolerance of <snip>

What, you've found yourself a troll friend now?  Well, at least you
have A friend....


Article: 334813 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: - exray - <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: THE HIGH COST OF SHIPPING.
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 01:30:30 -0400
Message-ID: <127ag7tq2vv3gc4@corp.supernews.com>
References: <18948-44747902-44@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <4474968A.B39D3137@earthlink.net> <YO9dg.84381$H71.46609@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com>

Lyndell Scott wrote:
> I assume from Bill's post that the shipping is included in the $18 cost, not 
> leaving him much profit. May have to let buyer pay shipping or at least part 
> of the shipping like most other places on the internet.
> 
  Being Bill's webmaster I've encouraged him to charge actual shipping 
and forget all the "included in cost" crap but he has always been a 
proponent of not letting his home bizness be that way.
Times change.  Given that escalating postage costs can rapidly exceed 
expectations this respectful old-time way of doing bizness just doesn't 
float any more.
Nowadays I figure on 2 bucks a pound for 'net' purchases to my location. 
  Some are more, some are less.  The only good deal to be found nowadays 
is the Priority Flat Rate box but so many 'heavy thing' sellers are 
totally oblivious to this....or want to feign ignorance.

-Bill


Article: 334814 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: THE HIGH COST OF SHIPPING.
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 22:21:00 -0700
Message-ID: <t1fa72h3jm018r3un2dh54tvijupup29p0@4ax.com>
References: <18948-44747902-44@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <LNOdnbOdGtyWmujZRVn-hg@comcast.com> <fT8dg.6053$oa3.5866@trnddc08>

On Thu, 25 May 2006 02:45:31 GMT, "Gary Tayman" <caradio@verizon.net>
wrote:

>I'm getting a new engine for my 64 Thunderbird.  Somebody in Pittsville 
>Wisconsin is building one right now, and it's exactly the way I want it --  
>so he's putting my name on it.
>
>How much to ship a Thunderbird big block 390 engine to Sarasota, Florida? <snip>

A LOT.  Those FEs were heavy due to their Y block and huge
intake...the former being the reason they were so long lived when
compared to Ford's later crap.  Any FE will outweigh a crummy little
Chevy small block by at least 200 lbs.  Only real choice will be a
freight line.  FedMex would be prohibitively expensive.

The 390 wasn't what's known as a "big block," although it certainly
was "big."  They're known as "FEs," for Ford-Edsel, having debuted in
both car lines in 1958.  A very similar, but different, line called
the "FT" showed up later and was used in Ford medium duty trucks.
"FT," of course, stood for "Ford Truck."  Some parts are
interchangeable, most are not.

Is yours the 390HP?  If so, you have quite a desirable variation.  The
'64 T-Bird radio's kinda....eh.  My '66 Landau's AM/FM was garbage, as
Mr. Tayman has alluded to earlier.  Bendix seemed to be concentrating
on seeing how lousy they could build a radio in those days.


Article: 334815 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: THE HIGH COST OF SHIPPING.
Date: Wed, 24 May 2006 22:25:31 -0700
Message-ID: <lmfa72tqdj119autdatcarj7j9oonrj918@4ax.com>
References: <18948-44747902-44@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <LNOdnbOdGtyWmujZRVn-hg@comcast.com> <fT8dg.6053$oa3.5866@trnddc08> <jp9dg.102598$yN.1593044@weber.videotron.net> <NrydnekwA-J_t-jZRVn-uA@comcast.com>

On Wed, 24 May 2006 20:56:25 -0700, "graham" <grahamiba@comcast.net>
wrote:

>.. a carbureted Ford 390 .... it would be cheaper to send it
>   Priority Mail!!! <snip>

They weren't all that bad, but not all that good.  Best I got from a
4V 390 on the road was 20 in a '68 Galaxie XL with a T-10 4 speed. The
one in my '66 Landau got 18, tops.  Compare that, however, to my 1950
Ford Custom Fordor with a 239 flathead...16 tops and only 110 HP. With
overdrive, it MIGHT get 18.  Those flatties were nothing if not
inefficient!


Article: 334816 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: - exray - <exray@coqui.net>
Subject: Re: THE HIGH COST OF SHIPPING.
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 02:13:13 -0400
Message-ID: <127ainvq4er0pb6@corp.supernews.com>
References: <18948-44747902-44@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <2w1dg.645$f76.54@dukeread06> <4474ECEB.1B303176@earthlink.net>

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

> Ken wrote:
> 
>>Lighten up on Bill, guys. We're all bitchin about shipping costs. Ken
> 
> 
> 
>    What "lighten up"?  Bill makes a vague statement and leaves us
> hanging.  Is he going to raise his prices? Is he bitching that he will
> not making s much on his stuff in the future, just bitching about
> current gasoline prices, or anything else in particular?

Fuck off, Michael.  You haven't done a damn thing for the old radio 
hobby other than dickwave about how you have "thousands" of those things 
in a warehouse trailer behind your home trailer but you can't get to 
them because your Veteran Cane is in the way.
Whats your Veteran "Cane"?  Were you a lucky 19 yo guy at AFRTS in 
Alaska when your contemporaries were in VietNam earning real bragging 
stripes?  According to your net postings in the past you were going to 
post 400,000 diagrams and later we were told (by you) that you had some 
carpal-whatever syndrome.  Now its some Cane Thing that prevents you 
>from going to a hamfest and the VA treated you such and etc.  And now 
you want to bitch against somebody who has actually had a pair of real 
strokes and still manages to make a little home business and wants to 
harp about postage rates but actually does what they say?
And you want to promote yourself as a VET with a DD-214 for validation 
as if you were one of them?  You're not in that league, bro.  A lot of 
my high school buddies didn't come back alive from VietNam and I'm 
really resentful when some unemployed wannabe wants to make himself a 
war-hero.  I appreciate your service, or any service, but don't be 
waving that AFRTS TV shit in Alaska in comparison to combat service.

You shouldn't have responded in that way because old Bill Turner at a 
lathe in his wheelchair is a helluva lot more man than you are sitting 
in front of a keyboard with a VA paid for Big Mac between you and the 
keyboard doing nothing other than carping.

Uhhh...get a life.

-Bill


Article: 334817 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Beerbarrel <beerbarrel@cox.net>
Subject: Re: THE HIGH COST OF SHIPPING.
Message-ID: <iv0b72dnrcm3pdstbht7m3f23ndkffanaq@4ax.com>
References: <18948-44747902-44@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <nak972pcejcl3gag43qm99surehra512vv@4ax.com> <dhl97258d770rraktme2ae2aa7gauid8j8@4ax.com> <veKdnQBhDp_kw-jZnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@comcast.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 06:20:40 -0400

On Thu, 25 May 2006 03:36:29 -0400, "Phil B"
<pcb999@NOSPAMcomcast.net> wrote:

>As I have somewhat obsessed on in other threads here, FedEx sucks.
>
>Phil B
>
>"DeserTBoB" <desertb@rglobal.net> wrote in message 
>news:dhl97258d770rraktme2ae2aa7gauid8j8@4ax.com...
>> On Wed, 24 May 2006 17:35:17 -0400, Beerbarrel <beerbarrel@cox.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>Open a fedex account. It cost me 13 dollars to ship a package that
>>>weighed 37 lbs to from Macon, Ga to Kenner, La yesterday. <snip>
>>
>> FedMex...highest damage rate in the LTL/parcel business and the worst
>> record at claims adjustment...even worse than the now-gone Airborne. I
>> had FedMex' idiots drive over a $35K piece of telecom gear, smashing
>> the chassis, the motherboard and all the daughter cards installed
>> within. First, they claimed it was "at the hands of others."  Huh??
>> After a YEAR of wrangling, they finally said that without going to
>> court, they'd pay $5K...period.  After company legal got a court date
>> for a prelim, THEN they settled for the full amount, but took three
>> months to forward payment.  Never again.
>>
>> Thanks, I'll stick with USPS or UPS.  I've only had one damage claim
>> with UPS over the years, and they paid it off within 60 days. 
>

I have yet to see a damaged package but I also pack well. The only
damaged stuff the I received was from UPS/USPS and that was because
people still don't realize that you just can't stick something in a
box and ship it. The funny think is that one item that I bought from a
person on this group was sent USPS parcel post. The metal looked as it
had been stepped on and crushed. The item was packed into a box that
it just fit into with not even enough space for air.
__________________________________________________________

KE4ODD

Service to my country? Me too and I've got my DD214 and 5 point veteran preference to
prove it. 


*Used with express written permission of its creator.


Article: 334818 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Gary Tayman" <caradio@verizon.net>
References: <odqdnWKpLpL5RenZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com>   <OF8dg.8177$Ar6.1798@trnddc02> <1148533265.493276.108770@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages
Message-ID: <Ndhdg.15104$oA6.999@trnddc06>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 12:15:41 GMT

More like the Zenith is packed like a subway car at rush hour and the Philco 
has these little glass cactus plants growing on the prairie.



-- 
Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical
Sound Solutions For Classic Cars
http://www.taymanelectrical.com


"Steven" <thisjukeboxplays33rpm@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
news:1148533265.493276.108770@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>
> Gary Tayman wrote:
>> Ahhh, time to get out the violins . . . and some cheese to have with that
>> whine.
>>
>> Now it's time to get back to work on these car radios.  If you want to 
>> see a
>> real can of sardines, look at a Zenith Rotomatic.  I've got a couple of 
>> them
>> from 47 Fords.  Not only do they use Loctal tubes, but the sockets are
>> famous for what Loctal sockets are famous for, and only a small Chinese
>> woman has fingers small enough to pull one of those tubes out.  Recapping 
>> is
>> fun too -- if only you could get the old ones out.  At some point when I 
>> dig
>> into these radios, I'll have to post some photos.
>
> Ah, but the Chinese were still Nationalists at this point.
>
>>
>> I'll also have to show you a Philco chassis from a 50 Studebaker.  As a
>> comparison, the Zenith looks like Manhattan and the Philco looks like
>> Wyoming.
>
> So the Zenith has coffee cup rings and smells like Old Golds and the
> Philco looks like a buffalo chip in Lander?
>
>>
>> --
>> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical
>> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars
>> http://www.taymanelectrical.com
>
> If it buzzes, he'll make it beep in no time.
> 




Article: 334819 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Gary Tayman" <caradio@verizon.net>
References: <odqdnWKpLpL5RenZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <OF8dg.8177$Ar6.1798@trnddc02> <OYWdna3bb8mJo-jZRVn-qQ@giganews.com>
Subject: Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages
Message-ID: <Omhdg.8238$Ar6.5318@trnddc02>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 12:25:18 GMT

I know what you're saying.  In fact, it has been remarked before that 
certain Philco radios are hard to service because every component has 
something else in the way.  The Philco 54 I have is one of these.  Yes, it's 
a bit crowded, but working with car radios I'm somewhat used to it.

It's not so bad for the most part -- when you recap, you usually end up 
gaining a fair amount of space.  But what about those electrolytics?  Nearly 
all of them are three-parts, 22/400, 20/400, 20/25.  You can't buy new 
replacements anywhere at any price (that I know of), so you gotta stick new 
ones underneath -- but where?  I think this is my biggest challenge when 
servicing these.

I've seen a number of radios where new caps are soldered to the old posts. 
I HATE these, as I've seen leaky and shorted filters -- a LOT of them on car 
radios.  Generally I remove the components and wires, break off the 
terminals entirely, solder a terminal strip to the chassis, and rewire to 
the strip.  The new filters go wherever they'll fit.  The 20/25 is easy, but 
the others can be quite fun.


-- 
Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical
Sound Solutions For Classic Cars
http://www.taymanelectrical.com


"Phil Nelson" <philnelson@nospam.xyz> wrote in message 
news:OYWdna3bb8mJo-jZRVn-qQ@giganews.com...
>> whine.
>
> Well, you're right, nobody held a gun to my head and said, Buy This. I 
> have only myself to blame.
>
>> famous for what Loctal sockets are famous for, and only a small Chinese 
>> woman has fingers small enough to pull one of those tubes out.
>
> Always fun. When I was removing one of the loctals in this set, the glass 
> envelope shattered in my fingers.
>
> Wish I had a good under-chassis photo of the "1942" Philco console that I 
> owned several years ago. It's one of those cobbled together from a 
> left-over prewar auto radio chassis bolted into an ugly wooden console 
> cabinet, and sold after domestic radio production was shut down for the 
> war. I gave away the whole thing after it sat in my garage for a year or 
> two.
>
> There's no reason apart from cheapness to make the chassis so cramped in 
> this large-ish tabletop radio/phono. If they had used the available space 
> inside the cabinet, the chassis could easily be twice the size. But this 
> way they could use the same tin pan & basic design in any number of 
> smaller radios, I suppose.
>
> Phil Nelson
>
> 




Article: 334820 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Gary Tayman" <caradio@verizon.net>
References: <odqdnWKpLpL5RenZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <OF8dg.8177$Ar6.1798@trnddc02> <OYWdna3bb8mJo-jZRVn-qQ@giganews.com>
Subject: Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages
Message-ID: <Uyhdg.8729$qn2.553@trnddc04>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 12:38:12 GMT

Some of these car radios look rather interesting after conversion.  Some of 
the Zeniths or Sylvanias in Fords around 1950 in particular.  When finished 
you have this big empty metal case with a small PCB soldered to one corner. 
Some of the repro radios are very small behind the dash, allowing for A/C 
ducts, electric wipers, etc.

I've often thought it would be an interesting project to take a console 
radio with a nice cabinet and a shot chassis, install a modern PCB -- either 
in a corner or hidden entirely -- and end up with a really nice console 
radio.  But if you look inside, it's empty!

A few years ago I did some work on a jukebox at the nearby Fifty's Diner. 
The owner wanted me to set it up so that Muzak would switch off if someone 
selected a record, and the record would play through the jukebox as well as 
the entire system.  Actually it's made to do just that, but the trick was 
that the Muzak receiver was installed elsewhere.  In any case, this was a 
Wurlitzer "One More Time" model, pretty much a relica of the older bubbler 
design -- and the very last model to play 45's (they still make one, but it 
plays CD's).  Indeed, if you open it up, it's empty!  There's a little 
microprocessor on the back, and a jumper board -- the way you arrange the 
jumpers determines how much it costs to play the records.  Aside from that, 
you just have a couple of shelves -- and they suggest placing a Muzak 
receiver inside.  I had fun reading the tech literature on this -- it was in 
German!


-- 
Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical
Sound Solutions For Classic Cars
http://www.taymanelectrical.com



"Phil Nelson" <philnelson@nospam.xyz> wrote in message 
news:OYWdna3bb8mJo-jZRVn-qQ@giganews.com...
>> whine.
>
> Well, you're right, nobody held a gun to my head and said, Buy This. I 
> have only myself to blame.
>
>> famous for what Loctal sockets are famous for, and only a small Chinese 
>> woman has fingers small enough to pull one of those tubes out.
>
> Always fun. When I was removing one of the loctals in this set, the glass 
> envelope shattered in my fingers.
>
> Wish I had a good under-chassis photo of the "1942" Philco console that I 
> owned several years ago. It's one of those cobbled together from a 
> left-over prewar auto radio chassis bolted into an ugly wooden console 
> cabinet, and sold after domestic radio production was shut down for the 
> war. I gave away the whole thing after it sat in my garage for a year or 
> two.
>
> There's no reason apart from cheapness to make the chassis so cramped in 
> this large-ish tabletop radio/phono. If they had used the available space 
> inside the cabinet, the chassis could easily be twice the size. But this 
> way they could use the same tin pan & basic design in any number of 
> smaller radios, I suppose.
>
> Phil Nelson
>
> 




Article: 334821 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Gary Tayman" <caradio@verizon.net>
References: <1148550361.827413.153800@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1148553995.535977.240400@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Unknown Console
Message-ID: <mDhdg.8730$qn2.324@trnddc04>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 12:42:58 GMT

These are only stabs in the dark, but if I were to guess, I would say the 
radio is a Philco and the TV is an RCA.  Based on nothing more than "looks 
like."


-- 
Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical
Sound Solutions For Classic Cars
http://www.taymanelectrical.com



"Dave" <anaconda89@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1148553995.535977.240400@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Another request: identification of the TV in this photo.  Thanks in
> advance,
>
> http://www.memorystore.org.uk/_images/gadgetsPics/largepopup/1950lounge.jpg
> 




Article: 334822 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Yet another freebie: Bremer-Tully audio transformer
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 07:30:35 -0600
Message-ID: <13070-4475B17B-176@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1148562808.451673.284130@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

I have fixed several of those by picking down in and finding a
connection near the end of the coil .



Article: 334823 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jeffrey D Angus <jangus@socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   <eoOdndbUp9TBhO7ZRVn-gw@comcast.com>   <1148481927.833748.151710@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   <Br_cg.7047$uM4.2802@tornado.socal.rr.com>   <1148482872.036833.145230@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <j249725go67j0uvuhvojbie7bqkvtduub5@4ax.com>   <1148497509.793925.262760@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   <EI-dna_gLaE7VunZ4p2dnA@giganews.com> <1148553651.772220.319390@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <1zidg.7378$uM4.3152@tornado.socal.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 13:46:37 GMT

CAINE wrote, in response to something I posted:
> And what business is it, of yours ?

Well, you waltz in here and shit all over a news group that I
read, so you make it my business.

CAINE wrote:
> yes, it's a public forum, so under what authority do you tell
> someone what they can, or can't, post here ?

Ironic isn't it?

Bitch all you want. This news group will be here long after you
finally tire of making a ass of yourself.

Jeff

-- 
RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to
the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal
force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED
under the Internal Security Act of 1950.


Article: 334824 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.)
Subject: Re: Best way to clean up Zenith Copper chassis?
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 07:48:37 -0600
Message-ID: <13070-4475B5B5-182@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net>
References: <1148562506.167614.220810@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>

Zenith used hammer paint in 2 different shades ( or it could be age )
and they colored them copper somehow with a very thin plating of some
sort .

I have delt with many of those , one just last week . There is no way to
match it that i have found . I would suggest scraping off the rust and
leave it if its not to bad .
I have taken everything off the chassis accept the transformer and left
the IF can guts hanging with the cans removed . 
Wrap the guts with tin foil and mask the trans.   
Mask the rivets by putting maskng tape over them then cut it by pushing
a section if antenna link over it . 



Article: 334825 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 06:38:18 -0700
Message-ID: <rlcb725r2ahim95q8vtrgsefl6hjq04gs2@4ax.com>
References: <1148469742.590632.88770@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <pdq872tro6c6fqfod0ettr21g9q7cspj08@4ax.com> <1148483043.127849.205550@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148486793.194779.47490@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148498168.630583.67000@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148499253.763127.147840@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148556841.542432.320200@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148559794.676401.148790@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 25 May 2006 05:23:14 -0700, "Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote:

>You don't understand much, do you? <snip>

Try he doesn't understand much of anything.

>So, one could use the unit with any mono-source as well as its internal
>front-end. No "mixing" of -topologies-, and no kluge with working
>around 'other' functions. <snip>

Noodles would be hard pressed to define "topology" if put on the spot.

>Some even came in stereo and used two (2) EL84/6BQ5s and two (2) output
>transformers.
>Some even had switchable speaker outputs.
>Some even had Record Out functions.
>Most even had pretty damned good tuners for AM/FM and SW within their
>chosen  bandwidth.
>
>And _all_ of them are smaller, lighter & better made than the Akai. <snip>

Not to mention that anyone using an old jap tape deck as their primary
sound source is probably either 1.) a rag picker to ripped one from a
garage sale, 2.) an idiot, or 3.) 1 & 2 combined...Charlie Nudo of
Drums, PA.

Is it "Drums," or "Dumbs?"


Article: 334826 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 06:34:58 -0700
Message-ID: <hicb72pplo7r3v33g207qt0m6u57seo7h9@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <eoOdndbUp9TBhO7ZRVn-gw@comcast.com> <1148481927.833748.151710@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <Br_cg.7047$uM4.2802@tornado.socal.rr.com> <1148482872.036833.145230@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <j249725go67j0uvuhvojbie7bqkvtduub5@4ax.com> <1148497509.793925.262760@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <EI-dna_gLaE7VunZ4p2dnA@giganews.com> <1148553651.772220.319390@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 25 May 2006 03:40:51 -0700, "CAINE" <streambredbrownie@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>yes, it's a public forum, so under what authority do you tell someone
>what they can, or can't, post here ?
>
>I suggest you start your own moderated group, if you want to play king. <snip>

You cannot post your eBay spam here, Noodles, especially for your off
topic and obviously scam-valued junk.


Article: 334827 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 06:35:41 -0700
Message-ID: <qkcb72losgscp0h9mpo4eo769t3a5ifibv@4ax.com>
References: <jbyrns-2305061527230001@216-80-74-244.d.enteract.com> <1148469742.590632.88770@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <pdq872tro6c6fqfod0ettr21g9q7cspj08@4ax.com> <1148483043.127849.205550@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148486793.194779.47490@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148498168.630583.67000@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148499253.763127.147840@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148556841.542432.320200@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

On 25 May 2006 04:34:01 -0700, "CAINE" <streambredbrownie@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>you're missing my point- you are taking SE amps from a radio- meaning
>the radio circuitry and tuner tubes are all mixed into the topography
>of the amp- requiring a lot of work to cut away all that, for someone
>to make a dual monoblock SE stereo amp from. <snip>

ROFL!  This moron doesn't even know of what he types!


Article: 334828 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 06:43:10 -0700
Message-ID: <drcb72dmph3ua0qiqlk340tpjnc8u9i2gh@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-2305061527230001@216-80-74-244.d.enteract.com> <1148469742.590632.88770@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-2405062133030001@216-80-74-101.d.enteract.com> <1148555931.005990.13600@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

On 25 May 2006 04:18:51 -0700, "CAINE" <streambredbrownie@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>on the line level/record playback mode, I'm just following the design
>instructions in the owner's manual- it states you can monitor what you
>are recording, by connecting a high impedance speaker or earphones to
>the speaker out jacks.  You can also push the "monitor" button, and the
>deck will play through the 2 built in stereo speakers, in the top of
>the case.  These M8's are quite versatile. <snip>

Yeah...gee whiz, Noodles!  It does whatever any half assed 3 head deck
will do!  Woohoo!
>
>I take that one step further, and shut off the capstan drive motor with
>the switch, and disengage the capstan with the lever, while using the
>line level inputs.  I keep the built in speakers shut off, and just
>play through my large external corner wall speakers. <snip>

You mean those jap shitboxes you think are so great?
>
>yes, the output is reduced to about 4 WPC in record mode- but it's
>still plenty loud- the key is using speakers with 93db efficiency and
>15" woofers <snip>

93 dB/W/M....BFD.  Any JBL product is more efficient, as are a ton of
others.  What's that give you, moron...a whopping 99 dB at a meter?
What the hell do you do for peaks???   That's NOT ENOUGH POWER FOR
ANYTHING.  What do you play on that shitbox...fart noises?

What a loser.


Article: 334829 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Stan" <stanford@nf.sympatico.ca>
References: <92Ocg.57112$Qq.51561@tornado.texas.rr.com>   <aqi77296t2giu5bijkn21j1uustd5oe3t3@4ax.com> <1148484774.574849.235660@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Variac Question
Message-ID: <RBidg.1748$ho5.142013@news20.bellglobal.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 11:17:45 -0230


"Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:1148484774.574849.235660@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> General Radio owns the *Trademark* "Variac. ............ snip ....... etc.

And after Peter's breathtaking display of knowledge humbly add that;
In Britain circa the 1930s and 1940s vacuum cleaners, especially of the 
upright (floor beating) variety, no matter the make, were almost always 
called 'Hoovers'. Presumably after the company that cornered most of the 
market.
Hence someone might say "I'm going to Hoover the carpets tomorrow"! 




Article: 334830 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: THE HIGH COST OF SHIPPING.
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 06:49:06 -0700
Message-ID: <3bdb72h16d5pg88jghff8igsf6rks8ef45@4ax.com>
References: <18948-44747902-44@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <2w1dg.645$f76.54@dukeread06> <4474ECEB.1B303176@earthlink.net> <127ainvq4er0pb6@corp.supernews.com>

On Thu, 25 May 2006 02:13:13 -0400, - exray - <exray@coqui.net> wrote:

>Michael A. Terrell wrote:
>
>> Ken wrote:
>> 
>>>Lighten up on Bill, guys. We're all bitchin about shipping costs. Ken
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>    What "lighten up"?  Bill makes a vague statement and leaves us
>> hanging.  Is he going to raise his prices? Is he bitching that he will
>> not making s much on his stuff in the future, just bitching about
>> current gasoline prices, or anything else in particular?
>
>Fuck off, Michael.  You haven't done a damn thing for the old radio 
>hobby other than dickwave about how you have "thousands" of those things 
>in a warehouse trailer behind your home trailer but you can't get to 
>them because your Veteran Cane is in the way.
>Whats your Veteran "Cane"?  Were you a lucky 19 yo guy at AFRTS in 
>Alaska when your contemporaries were in VietNam earning real bragging 
>stripes? <snip>

'Nam was nothing to brag about...it was a horror, just like Iraq is a
horror.

> According to your net postings in the past you were going to 
>post 400,000 diagrams and later we were told (by you) that you had some 
>carpal-whatever syndrome. <snip>

A real disease.  Try educating yourself sometime.  You also might want
to check into a disease that you seem to have...alcoholism.

> Now its some Cane Thing that prevents you 
>from going to a hamfest and the VA treated you such and etc.  And now 
>you want to bitch against somebody who has actually had a pair of real 
>strokes and still manages to make a little home business and wants to 
>harp about postage rates but actually does what they say?
>And you want to promote yourself as a VET with a DD-214 for validation 
>as if you were one of them?  You're not in that league, bro.  A lot of 
>my high school buddies didn't come back alive from VietNam <snip>

....and where the fuck were you?  Too bad yours wasn't one of the
corpses we were shoveling into the ass end of C-141s at the
time...dickhead.  Then you could brag all you want...from a military
plot.

You're a disgrace...another Charlie Nudo with a slightly more
functional brain, with alcoholism substituted for psychosis.  You owe
Terrell a public apology and you deserve to have your ass kicked up
around your ears.


Article: 334831 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 06:44:56 -0700
Message-ID: <a5db72dugnegpkng15spb4u8omodaqef81@4ax.com>
References: <1148387094.307140.47350@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-2305061527230001@216-80-74-244.d.enteract.com> <1148469742.590632.88770@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <jbyrns-2405062133030001@216-80-74-101.d.enteract.com> <1148556439.367103.236460@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148558874.222507.197710@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

On 25 May 2006 05:07:54 -0700, "Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote:

>>cap tolerances- I recapped my Telex 8-track deck a few days ago- the
>>original caps were so far out, some were TWICE the actual value printed
>>on them.  After replacing them all, that deck sounds much better.
>
>Of course, you are too ignorant to understand that the hand-held meter
>you are using reads leakage as "extra" capacity under most conditions. <snip>

Quit wising him up.  Feed him bogus info, let him blow stuff up.  A
fraudster/con artist like this dildo needs some "regulation."


Article: 334832 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "jim menning" <jmenningSPAM@new.rr.com>
References: <1148550361.827413.153800@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>
Subject: Re: Unknown Console
Message-ID: <a6jdg.6631$GM.4207@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 14:24:06 GMT


"Dave" <anaconda89@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1148550361.827413.153800@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
>
> Anyone identify the console in this photo?  Looks like an interesting
> set.  Would like to look up more info on it.  All I need is the
> manufacturer's name and model # .
>
> http://www.piedmontcommunities.us/go/122/FSLO-1114027654-421122.gif
>
> http://www.memorystore.org.uk/_images/gadgetsPics/largepopup/1950lounge.jpg
>



How about this time you give us all you know about these first?

For example, where are the images from?  The site you found them on, the movie they 
may have been from, etc..

Seeing the second set you asked about is from a UK site, perhaps we are dealing with 
a UK manufacturer?



And lastly, if you were told the brand name and model, what does that information do 
for you?  Curiosity only?  If you had a true need to know, I'm sure a lot of people 
would be glad to help.  Are we going to have to identify every model that you don't 
recognize?  That would surely keep us busy.

jim menning 




Article: 334833 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: Jeffrey D Angus <jangus@socal.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Using a potentiometer to determine resistor value....
References: <1148315789.131789.24580@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <vP0dg.5400$nA2.1169@trndny01> <1148566027.027363.195930@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <xJjdg.4137$9W5.2891@tornado.socal.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 15:06:05 GMT

Stephanie Weil wrote:
> Paul, wouldn't the accepted method for setting the B-plus be by adding
> the appropriate resistor in series with the new rectifier?    That's
> why I plan on using a rheostat, in order to figure out what fixed-value
> component I need to stick in there.

Yes, I suggest looking at some place like Fair Radio Sales in Ohio for
a 100 ohm 25 watt rheostat. Since you won't be using all of it, you'll
need a proportionally larger wattage to safely use a smaller portion of
the overall resistance.

Jeff


-- 
RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to
the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal
force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED
under the Internal Security Act of 1950.


Article: 334834 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Variac Question
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 08:04:27 -0700
Message-ID: <nqhb72lgk0l1tcp99iemldjvf3otvmmfue@4ax.com>
References: <92Ocg.57112$Qq.51561@tornado.texas.rr.com>   <aqi77296t2giu5bijkn21j1uustd5oe3t3@4ax.com> <1148484774.574849.235660@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <RBidg.1748$ho5.142013@news20.bellglobal.com>

On Thu, 25 May 2006 11:17:45 -0230, "Stan" <stanford@nf.sympatico.ca>
wrote:

>
>"Peter Wieck" <pfjw@aol.com> wrote in message 
>news:1148484774.574849.235660@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
>> General Radio owns the *Trademark* "Variac. ............ snip ....... etc.
>
>And after Peter's breathtaking display of knowledge humbly add that;
>In Britain circa the 1930s and 1940s vacuum cleaners, especially of the 
>upright (floor beating) variety, no matter the make, were almost always 
>called 'Hoovers'. Presumably after the company that cornered most of the 
>market.
>Hence someone might say "I'm going to Hoover the carpets tomorrow"!  <snip>

I already covered that.  Also, "Did you hear the announcement on the
Tannoy?"


Article: 334835 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 08:10:19 -0700
Message-ID: <7thb725akn3btajpkh1563c08o8grmbc9p@4ax.com>
References: <eoOdndbUp9TBhO7ZRVn-gw@comcast.com>   <1148481927.833748.151710@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>   <Br_cg.7047$uM4.2802@tornado.socal.rr.com>   <1148482872.036833.145230@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>   <j249725go67j0uvuhvojbie7bqkvtduub5@4ax.com>   <1148497509.793925.262760@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>   <EI-dna_gLaE7VunZ4p2dnA@giganews.com> <1148553651.772220.319390@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1zidg.7378$uM4.3152@tornado.socal.rr.com>

On Thu, 25 May 2006 13:46:37 GMT, Jeffrey D Angus
<jangus@socal.rr.com> wrote:

>Bitch all you want. This news group will be here long after you
>finally tire of making a ass of yourself. <snip>

Trust me...this troll is long lived...too stupid to know he's making
an ass out of himself and too delusional to think he has to follow any
prescribed rules.  He already destroyed one newsgroup, and STILL hangs
out in it...sort of a "Lord Of The Flies."  The only way to control
him is to lop off his Google Groups accounts, one by one.  THAT gets
his attention.  All told, six of his Google Groups accounts have been
banned, and counting.  Spam complaints to Epix work, too.  EBay
couldn't be bothered with enforcing their own ToS as long as it's one
of their "power smellers," but since Noodles lost his "power smeller"
status for various violations, he's fair game now.  The best possible
outcome would be for him to get his "66fourdoor" account axed, like he
had "coolsitesandsounds" killed through fraud and theft.  After an
initial violent episode of screaming posts, he shut up (comparatively)
for quite awhile after that.  Just remember...this guy Nudo isn't
dealing with a full deck.


Article: 334836 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Message-ID: <4475D385.1900BF0E@earthlink.net>
From: "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terrell@earthlink.net>
Subject: To whom it may concern, regarding my military service.
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 15:55:56 GMT

I would never have brought this up, but xray's outburst forces me to
tell the full truth about my time in service:

I was intensely interested in both the Air Force and the space program
as a child.  I was interested in avionics and wanted to join the Air
Force to study that field of electronics.

When I went to register for the draft and was given a physical they told
me that I couldn't join ANY branch of the service because:

I was legally blind in one eye.  Even with glasses my vision couldn't be
corrected to 20/20.
I had bad feet and wouldn't be able to do long marches without causing
more damage to my feet.
I had a deep, and fairly wide notch in my hearing which would keep me
out.
I had respiratory problems which would keep me out, from multiple bouts
of pneumonia as a child.
I had circulation problems in my legs that would keep me out.

I didn't tell them about all the migraines I had, or almost constant low
level pain that would have given them more ammunition to keep me out.

   That was five separate items that classified me as 4F, and kept me
>from joining any branch of the service.  When they discovered that I was
working in electronics I was told that I would be drafted, so I went
home waited for the letter. In the meantime, I sold all my antique
radios and test equipment because I didn't know if I would be coming
back.

   If I was like xray, I would have shown up drunk and french kissed the
Sergeant to stay out, but I went, I served, and I did all of the jobs
assigned to me.  I barely made it through basic training due to my
health and turned down a medical discharge after hyperventilating and
collapsing, then ending up in the base hospital while still in basic
training. I know that they deducted three seconds from my time on the
mile on the final PT test, or I would have been forced into a medical
discharge. I also tested out of the three year electronics school for
broadcast engineer while I was in Basic.


   Yes, you sorry ignorant, drunken bastard, I didn't end up in Vietnam.
I wouldn't have lasted more than a few days, and the US Army knew that. 
They also knew that they had jobs I COULD do, and do well, so that is
where they assigned me and sent someone who did have a chance to come
back alive in my place.  hell, I wasn't even allowed on the confidence
course.  On the other hand I was promoted three times in two years. I
got a letter of commendation for my work and then I was told that they
were phasing out my M.O.S. to hire civilians so I didn't re-enlist.
There was no reason to. I would have had to sign up for six years and go
back to school, but that had started to RIF the US Army by late 1974 and
they didn't need me anymore.

   As far as the men and women who didn't make it home? I think of them
every day, along with the ones who did, no mater if their problems were
physical or mental.  I do volunteer work for other disabled Veterans,
and that takes up more than half of my time.  I repair computers, help
veterans with computer problems, and work on websites of veterans
information.  I do what I can to help raise money to help those who fall
between the cracks.  For instance, I just found a company who will buy
used cell phones and I am trying to set a collection program set up to
raise money for "Veterans and Family Services", which is a local non
profit that does a lot of good for local Veterans and other disabled and
disadvantage people, while you prefer to get drunk and show your ass on
usenet.

   Now, if you are going to challenge any of this, it better be face to
face.  As far as I'm concerned you can keep marinating yourself in cheap
rum till you die.  Are YOU going to any event honoring our fallen
Soldiers and Sailors on Monday, or ar you going to stay home and stay
drunk?


   PS, I hope you enjoy being in the bit bucket with Dinius and CAINE. 
You three really do deserve each other. At least you can't reproduce in
there. :)

-- 
Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to
prove it.
Member of DAV #85.

Michael A. Terrell
Central Florida


Article: 334837 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: "Heriberto" <lu6dbu@tapalquenet.com.ar>
References: <445bcb54_1@x-privat.org>
Subject: RCA Q36  SCHEMATICS HELP  please
Message-ID: <4475df6c_2@x-privat.org>
Date: 25 May 2006 18:46:36 +0200



 Hi  All:
            I have a RCA  q36 receiver, maked  about 1947.- I needed
 schematics him, for controller voltages in  tubes socket.-
            Anyhone can help me?
            Thanks in advance
 Heriberto
 LU6DBU




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Article: 334838 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: To whom it may concern, regarding my military service.
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 09:47:48 -0700
Message-ID: <sdmb72lhb0gmvv2jsvcif2m2foits6k0t9@4ax.com>
References: <4475D385.1900BF0E@earthlink.net>

On Thu, 25 May 2006 15:55:56 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell"
<mike.terrell@earthlink.net> wrote:

>   Now, if you are going to challenge any of this, it better be face to
>face.  As far as I'm concerned you can keep marinating yourself in cheap
>rum till you die.  Are YOU going to any event honoring our fallen
>Soldiers and Sailors on Monday, or ar you going to stay home and stay
>drunk? <snip>

You cannot reason with a drunken rummy any more than you can reason
with a paranoid delusional like Charlie Nudo.  Two peas, one pod.  As
for me, I'm going to Edwards AFB to take part in Memorial Day
functions like I do every year, as I do on Veteran's Day.  But I do
think that RumDumb aka -exray- deserves a major ass kicking as the
asshole obviously didn't serve, just like Charlie Nudo never served.
Come to think of it, a LOT of these Republican "neocon" ass pimples
never served.  What pisses me off is these "armchair patriots" who
listen to the likes of Flush Limpdick, Bill "The Pervert" O'Reilly and
other asshats, but never gave of themselves to do crap for anyone
other than themselves...but they're sure good at telling everone ELSE
what to do!  The next election will see many of their "heroes" tossed
into the dustbin.  By the way...Limpdick and O'Reilly and Savage and
Hannity?  THEY never served, either...but they sure lined up to pile
onto Kerry, didn't they?  Hypocritical morons, all.  I don't care if
he was there for three months, or three tours...he was THERE.  The
aforementioned asshats were NOT.

There are a few other ass warts in here as well, like the pandering
Byrns and that Moustache Pete/Uncle Ginzo character who can't seem to
figure the RMS power of a sine wave.  People complain it's me who's
destroying this group?  With the regular cadre of mooks in here
already, I'd say it's rotting from the inside...like most NGs. Noodles
just adds to the cachet.

>   PS, I hope you enjoy being in the bit bucket with Dinius and CAINE. 
>You three really do deserve each other. At least you can't reproduce in
>there. :) <snip>

Now there's a mental image I didn't need!


Article: 334839 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
From: DeserTBoB <desertb@rglobal.net>
Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-question-discolored resistor-PING-J.Byrns-J.Stone
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 10:05:19 -0700
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On Thu, 25 May 2006 10:36:17 -0500, jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) wrote:

>In article <1148498168.630583.67000@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "CAINE"

>Two of the three that came up were the same as yours, and the third was a
>similar later model with updated styling imitating the latest Ampex
>models, and a few less bells and whistles on the auxiliary panels of the
>"monoblocks". <snip>

What's a joke is that these weren't really excellent tape decks to
begin with, but good enough for most consumers at the time. Akai had a
continual head design maxim to go for more top end while sacrificing
the bottom, which shows up on about every model they made in that era.
Noodles, who's never seen a real Ampex or Studer, or even a Berlant
Concertone (ick), thinks they're the state of the art of the medium of
analog tape for all time.  Of course, his history shows continual
delusional behavior, so that's no surprise!  He probably never knew
that the 770s were just rebadged Akais, either.  A tape deck with
onboard cheapie power amps and little cheeseball speakers?  Fine for a
pool party...that's about it.

Now, I wonder where he's going to try to sell that beleaguered Fisher
500C with the crappy Russian tubes next?  I notice, after being outed,
he deleted the listing on Audiogon.  Trying to cover your tracks
again, eh, Noodles?


Article: 334840 of rec.antiques.radio+phono
Subject: Re: Why I haven't bought a Philco in ages
From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa)
References: <odqdnWKpLpL5RenZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <1148536346.632361.197750@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>
Message-ID: <a1mdg.2765$No1.1242@attbi_s71>
Date: Thu, 25 May 2006 17:43:34 GMT

In article <1148536346.632361.197750@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, 
stevereeves@gmail.com says...
>
>
>Hi Phil,
>  Just Wondering what model Philco you got there.
>
>Regards,
>Steven Reeves
>


Phonograph and Radio Combo unit... recognized the screwey antenna..
just finished one up for a customer a week ago... 

Anyone need a real Philco Phono Changer that works and looks pretty
good for one of these?.... the customer wanted a 4 speed VM changer
installed into the one I did.... 

John k9uwa