Article: 335956 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1150646829.833653.136250@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: The Zenith lives again! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:36:22 GMT Congratulations Dave! There's a difference between buying a working radio, buying a radio and doing the recap/clean scenario, and actually rebuilding a mess and bringing it back to life. You'll enjoy every minute you spend listening to it. Of course we all just learned that Zenith is no good, so maybe it's all for naught. Ho hum . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:1150646829.833653.136250@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > That 15 tube Zenith chassis that had the fire lives to play tunes > another day! Whew! New band switch (3 deck), new octal socket, > numerous terminal strips, new first detector and oscillator coils and a > bunch of new wiring. The fire also melted the stator on the tuning > condensor. Luckily, the power tranny was still good. My bet is the > fire started on the middle switch deck, which just happens to be > switching B+. Replacement parts were taken from a 9S chassis of the > same year that had the same parts. It took about 25 hours. > Dave > Article: 335957 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1150647367.649668.183410@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Radio Cabinet Part Names??? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:42:11 GMT For an original cabinet I don't know. More than likely you'll hear different terms from different companies. For example, Philco might call the front a "trim panel", whereas Zenith might call it a "bezel" and RCA a "control cluster." In many cases the cabinet was built by someone else, such as Kiel or Pooley, and they may have used different terms still. Aside >from calling the front a back, I don't think there are any incorrect answers. Of course I have visions of "A", "BB", "XX", "E", "F", and "G." -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1150647367.649668.183410@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Ken wrote: >> Anyone have a reference on what the different parts of a console radio >> cabinet are named? Like I call the heavy wood at the bottom the 'kick >> board'. Is this correct? I guess the sides and top are self explanatory, >> but what about the various pannels that make up the front? There must >> have been names for all the pieces at the furnature factory. > > i call the bottom base or foot. control panel was one term used for the > front where the knobs were. > Article: 335958 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Uncle Peter" References: <127crr7std22n26@corp.supernews.com> <1148618385.034999.39510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148665951.755079.63870@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148671230.532512.227120@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150044711.018433.58310@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150078931.703921.185060@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [BS meter pegged] Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:46:01 -0400 Hi Larry A few questions: "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns97DFED6D6C0F0noonehomecom@208.49.80.253... > > bought from VOA, mounted in the fish hold of an old Canadian offshore > fishing trawler, steel hulled. On deck were two big towers with two T > cage antennas that terminated in a big insulator going through the big > hatch to the fish hold into one of the balanced 600 ohm output terminals, > the other one just dead ending under the hatch to launch the RF skyward. > When it was running, everyone and everything inside glowed blue from the > 70KW the beast would put out peak. WARNING - RF IS HAZARDOUS TO YOUR > HEALTH! Was this a balanced antenna; or was it a single ended antenna that was working against the hull (counterpoise?) If balanced, the RF currents through the hull should have been very minimal... Besides.. > > > It wasn't going to work, anyways....The RF current through the hull in > the river was EATING THE HULL as it transferred the RF current into the > salt water. I told them I thought the bottom paint was arcing through as > it did glow at night under there.... Larry, metal hull damage is usually caused by electrolysis caused by a DC currents. A sacrificial zince anode is usually used (reverses the current flow) to control the problem. None-the-less, I'd think an AC voltage (RF) would completely negate it's effect on the hull with each cycle--such as why they AC signals to protect a LCD display from the same damage--can you provide a reference that refutes this? Pete Article: 335959 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: mandierules23@webtv.net (Amanda McCathern) Subject: Free Gift Catalog! Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:13:02 -0400 Message-ID: <12880-449597AE-862@storefull-3353.bay.webtv.net> --WebTV-Mail-4562-9853 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit --WebTV-Mail-4562-9853 Content-Description: signature Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Text/HTML; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit
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--WebTV-Mail-4562-9853-- Article: 335960 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: <1150493620.248679.225860@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150496799.550205.207100@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150519373.076813.27320@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: WTB ak 44 radio Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:32:44 GMT Have to dig it out,far as i remeber it wasnt too bad. "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1150519373.076813.27320@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com... > > Robert Mozeleski wrote: >> I've got one but not good condition. No tubes,top for power supply is missing(probably meaning the dreaded tar removal is in >> order) >> It's been hiding under a bench here for a few years.You can have it for $10 plus ship. >> >> "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1150496799.550205.207100@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> > >> > Eddie Brimer wrote: >> >> must be good condition. > > > robert, how is the cosmetic condition? > Article: 335961 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: <1150493620.248679.225860@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150496799.550205.207100@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150574583.200571.293090@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: WTB ak 44 radio Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:43:47 GMT Here's 2 pictures, front is all surface rust. http://www.poconoelectronics.com/scans/441.jpg http://www.poconoelectronics.com/scans/442.jpg "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1150574583.200571.293090@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: >> Tubes are easy, and with it going inside the Pooley >> bar cabinet it don't really matter what the box is like. >> $10 sounds like a deal to me. >> >> Ron > > > ron's probably right. as long as the front and knobs are good, then > i'll take it. > Article: 335962 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I did Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:47:21 -0500 Message-ID: <12182-4495ADC9-150@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: But I forgot what I diddy did did. cuhulin Article: 335963 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I did Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 14:49:51 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4495AE5F-698@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: cuhulin is not Steven.(Meaning no disrespect to the Stevens in the World) But if you want to think I am Steven,whats it to me? cuhulin Article: 335964 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: rebuild the FP cans - yourself Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:04:31 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4495B1CF-703@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <0qadneUau4CMlw_ZnZ2dnUVZ_tydnZ2d@comcast.com> Awww now,Gary.You know as well as I do that you can't completly get out of the radio fixin business. Which reminds me,maybe I ought to phone old man Otto Wise in the City five miles West of me and let him (he is over eighty years old,he likes to repair one or two radios each week) check out a few of my old beat up good old radios. cuhulin Article: 335965 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4495B48B.172FD363@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [BS meter pegged] References: <127crr7std22n26@corp.supernews.com> <1148618385.034999.39510@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1148665951.755079.63870@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1148671230.532512.227120@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150044711.018433.58310@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150078931.703921.185060@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:16:48 GMT Uncle Peter wrote: > > Hi Larry > > A few questions: > > "Larry" wrote in message > news:Xns97DFED6D6C0F0noonehomecom@208.49.80.253... > > > bought from VOA, mounted in the fish hold of an old Canadian offshore > > fishing trawler, steel hulled. On deck were two big towers with two T > > cage antennas that terminated in a big insulator going through the big > > hatch to the fish hold into one of the balanced 600 ohm output terminals, > > the other one just dead ending under the hatch to launch the RF skyward. > > When it was running, everyone and everything inside glowed blue from the > > 70KW the beast would put out peak. WARNING - RF IS HAZARDOUS TO YOUR > > HEALTH! > > Was this a balanced antenna; or was it a single ended antenna that was > working against the hull (counterpoise?) If balanced, the RF currents > through the hull should have been very minimal... Besides.. > > > > > > It wasn't going to work, anyways....The RF current through the hull in > > the river was EATING THE HULL as it transferred the RF current into the > > salt water. I told them I thought the bottom paint was arcing through as > > it did glow at night under there.... > > Larry, metal hull damage is usually caused by electrolysis caused by a DC > currents. A sacrificial zince anode is usually used (reverses the > current flow) to control the problem. None-the-less, I'd think an AC > voltage (RF) would completely negate it's effect on the hull with each > cycle--such as why they AC signals to protect a LCD display from the > same damage--can you provide a reference that refutes this? > > Pete I agree. Its more likely that they got the old tub because they knew it was already getting too thin to float much longer. It is possible that there was a small DC current flow form the atmosphere into the towers and out through the hull, but it takes a lot of current to dissolve the heavy steel plates used in the hull of a ship. By larry's logic ham radio and broadcast towers wouldn't last more than a few years. On the other hand, Larry never lets the truth stand in the way of one of his tall tales. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 335966 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Getting out of service Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:13:30 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4495B3EA-708@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: Bruce,you ever seen that Balaams Ass (Steve Van Nattan's Piano Service) website before? I bet you have. When I was a little boy,in me auld little home town,my family owned a fancy old piano,the kind that the top opened up,real fancy,with scrolled wood work.It had glass balls in the legs/feet of the piano and I was told,real Ivory keys.That was back in the 1940's. cuhulin Article: 335967 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Getting out of service Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:15:11 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4495B44F-709@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: I know what I want to ''restore'' cuhulin Article: 335968 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: (OT) Phone Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:20:59 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4495B5AB-710@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: There was a guy by the last name of Noble in our U.S.Army ARADCOM Company at Scott Air Force Base,Illinois in 1963.Noble was voicing/threating to kill his wife. cuhulin Article: 335969 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Well, Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 15:29:32 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4495B7AC-711@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> I guess my Bogalusa,Louisiana (dont worry about it.I live next door to them Louisiana Cajuns and I just barely can understand them CoonAsses meself) floor model wind up old phonograph doesn't bear much mention >from the phonograph hounds in this news group.But,Thanks anyway. cuhulin Article: 335970 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I did Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:05:59 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4495C037-719@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <13170-4495563F-691@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> DIAL COVER,YOU ARE A OK.I SEE YOU ARE SMART AND YOU USE WEBTV TOO.I am still trying to remember what it was I did.Maybe I will ask that Bell South woman next door when she gets back from Natchez tonight. cuhulin Article: 335971 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: I did Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:10:39 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4495C14F-720@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: If I was going to change my nic,I would get a sex change operaton and call meself,Stella. cuhulin Article: 335972 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: need info on old zenith 500 References: <9kUkg.25783$EX2.5606@bignews5.bellsouth.net> <14061-4494228D-627@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:16:48 -0400 Ken G. wrote: > Find a good capacitor close in value and touch it across ones in the > radio while its playing to show you if the ones in there are weak . > > Superglue is not good for speaker cones . > If you need the speaker reconed and want to spend the $ i recone them > with NOS cones . > The speaker only had one small tear, and it sounds ok for now. Is it possible to recone such a small speaker (2.5")? The voice coil is 1/2" or less in dia. Article: 335973 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: y'all Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:12:32 -0500 Message-ID: <12181-4495CFD0-735@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> need to rename this so-called ''news group'' Oviously,most of y'all dont care to comment on old phonographs,of which I own two. cuhulin Article: 335974 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" Subject: FA, Western Electric model 6025-B Amplifier manual, MINT!!! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:03:57 GMT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9743886864 Up for auction on ebay. Western Electric model 6025-B Amplifier manual, MINT!!! This Western Electric manual looks like it just came out of a time machine. It is MINT+. This is for the very rare model 6025B amplifier. You’re not likely to find a better example of a 1920s piece of paper, anywhere. Buyer to pay Priority Mail postage and insurance on final bid amount. International bidders please contact me before bidding to assure that item can be mailed to you with Global Priority Mail. Payment via PayPal ONLY. There’s no way you will find a better example. This is not a reprint, it is 100% original. Ron - Radio Collection Web Page, http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com WANTED! http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html Article: 335975 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: need info on old zenith 500 Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:10:18 -0600 Message-ID: <2327-4495EB6A-931@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: Yes . I have been sent a few Zenith 500`s for repair where the speaker magnet had gotten some sort of corrosion that welded the voice coil in place . I had to rebuild the whole speaker with new voice coil , spider , cone and outer gasket . I have reconed a few other non Zenith with the same size speaker . Article: 335976 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Where can I buy connectors to fit my 1943 Bang & Olufsen (photo) Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:25:36 +0200 Message-ID: References: JeffS wrote: > I've never encountered this sort of connector before: > > http://boulder.net/~4season/master43k_connector.jpg For Antenna or Phono? Phono maybe 1. O [] O 2. O O O Please reply the distance of the pins. Kind Regards Georg Article: 335977 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Want to buy NOS (Philips Miniwatt?) UBL1, UY1, UM4 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:27:07 +0200 Message-ID: References: <0redncYH_J16UgjZnZ2dnUVZ_qydnZ2d@csd.net> JeffS wrote: > I can pay via PayPal. > > Thanks > Jeff > > eBay: 4seasonphoto. Did you ask JANWUESTEN? Kind Regards Georg Article: 335978 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4495EEC9.638D1E71@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:25:20 GMT Gerry wrote: > > Good news: That lead free solder I've been using is definitely NOT > from the plumbing aisle. I headed to the local hardware store. They > had the 60/40 rosin core solder. While I was there, I noticed that all > the plumbing solder was clearly marked "acid core", and those with > paper labels all used red printing (other than the solid wire type). > The electronic variety was all marked "rosin core" and in blue printing > on the labels - just like the lead free that I have been using. > > Still almost grabbed the wrong one. Turns out there's also a 40/60 > (general electrical work) and 50/50 (general purpose). The 60/40 was > labeled for "Fine Electrical", such as PC boards and the like. > Unfortunately, they only had it in a little tube for $2 (.8 oz). The > others were available in a larger spool at $3.69 (4 oz). Rather than > flux, they had solder paste in a tin, and the guy at the hardware store > swears it's the same thing and safe for electronics. I haven't tried > using it yet, in case you all tell me it's the wrong stuff. > > Tried the 60/40, and boy, did that melt fast! A quick touch of the > iron, a dab of solder and it was done instantly. That lead free stuff > takes a LOT longer to melt. > > So, I guess the deformed iron tips were just caused by low-quality tip > material. The hardware store actually had the tips I need for the 40 > watt Weller, but they were $9.50 for a set of two. I already blew my > "play money" budget for this week. I also managed to locate my old > iron, so I'll use that one - at least until the tip falls out! It's a > tad loose, and I'm not certain at this point if I can tighten it... > I'll check it out later in the week. > > Many thanks to the guys who provided all the helpful and enlightening > information. > > Gerry Solder paste is a gelled flux for soldering copper plumbing, and paste solder is for electronics. Paste solder is used to manufacture surface mount PC boards. It has very, very fine solder particles suspended in the paste. It is either applied through a laser cut solder mask, or with a tiny hypodermic needle and a metering pump, one joint at a time. The solder paste is good for re-tinning a damaged tip, if you clean all the flux off when you're done. You can file down a damaged tip and re-tin it a couple times. Dip the hot tip in the tin of solder paste and apply a little solder to tin the hot & newly cleaned metal before it oxidizes again. You can use any solder on hand for this, because you have to wipe all but the thin protective layer off. I use a soft brass brush to clean away the flux and oxidized solder. If you use a steel brush it will scratch through the plating. Also, don't use your solder iron tip to pry a wire from a terminal. There are aluminum or stainless steel tools made for this job. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 335979 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: The Zenith lives again! Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:20:06 -0600 Message-ID: <2327-4495EDB6-932@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: <1150662988.284339.124790@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I read the threads about this . I just have a hunch that radio was the victim of major lightning . I have seen many modern tv sets that were lightninged and its wierd what it can do . Article: 335980 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4495F029.544B77F0@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <4494264D.785377F6@earthlink.net> <1150629050.121785.318660@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <5hklg.7795$lp.5406@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1150674122.633950.314510@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <5P2dnfv4SOSOewjZnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@comcast.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:31:12 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: > > While lead-based solder is still available, you should buy a couple pounds > (at least) of 63/37 tin/lead (or is it lead/tin?) rosin-core eutectic > solder. You will not regret it. Its tin/lead. 63/37 is eutectic, and a mildly active RMA rosin flux does the best job for normal soldering. My favorite brand is Ersin, and has been for over 35 years. Heathkit used Alpha Metals which worked fine on newly made parts, but had problems with old stock parts. Most TV shops used Kester, because it was the cheapest that did a decent job, and a lot of supply houses only carried kester, so they didn't have much choice. I ordered the Ersin from OEM suppliers and I still have about a half dozen different types and sizes on hand. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 335981 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:19:55 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <4494264D.785377F6@earthlink.net> <1150629050.121785.318660@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <5hklg.7795$lp.5406@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1150674122.633950.314510@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <5P2dnfv4SOSOewjZnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@comcast.com> William Sommerwerck wrote: > While lead-based solder is still available, you should buy a couple pounds > (at least) of 63/37 tin/lead (or is it lead/tin?) rosin-core eutectic > solder. You will not regret it. > > Indeed, this is sound advice for the vintage radiophile. I've got about 15 pounds of Multicore 63/37 and another 5 pounds or so of Kester 63/37 in my reserves in the event the solder manufacturers are ever compelled to go unleaded. Whenever I use a pound or so, I replenish it with fresh stuff. This prevents my reserves from depleting and keeps my ear to the ground about availability of the classic lead/tin alloy solder. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org Article: 335982 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 19:33:16 -0500 Message-ID: <12182-4495F0CC-160@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1150674122.633950.314510@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I know a guy who once tried to solder up a 1966 Alfa Romero with a regular bar of solder.In the first place,he should have had sense enough to not have bought that spaghetti car at all.Some people never learn. cuhulin Article: 335983 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: I did Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:48:55 +0200 Message-ID: References: <8564-44951CD8-101@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> <13170-44955699-692@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> <449566A5.BCE7FBE4@earthlink.net> Michael A. Terrell > Bill Turner wrote: > > > > HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THE THOUSANDS LAUGHING AT YOU NOW. > > > That is exactly what he wants. He is a lonely old troll. Take a > look on news:rec.radio.shortwave to see what I'm talking about. Be patient, laughing is healthy! Forgot to mention: cuhulin is an archetype. I like his comments ... every now and then ;-) Georg Article: 335984 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: I did Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 10:09:16 +0900 Message-ID: References: <8563-44951BC6-566@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> <1553-44956172-64@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> "Ken G." wrote in message news:1553-44956172-64@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net... > cuhulin is Steven > No he isn't. cuhulin is and has been a reg on rec.radio.shortwave for a couple years, and lives in Mississippi. Article: 335985 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Smokey" Subject: Early 1900s Dictaphone Cylinder recorder to give away Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 20:11:53 -0500 Message-ID: <129bugepi6osm3e@corp.supernews.com> I have a Model 12 "Type B" DICTAPHONE cylinder recorder that I'll give away if you'll either pick it up or pay the shipping on. The device was manufactured in the early 1900s. Its motor runs but I do not know what pieces may be missing. It is OLD. It comes on its own stand and additionally has a foot pedal arrangement for starting and stopping the recording. This Dictaphone was manufactured prior to the company being bought by Edison and becoming Edison Dictaphone. Pictures available on request. Smokey telegrapher@hotmail.com -- Important note: When replying to my e-mail please delete the words, "nospam" >from my e-mail address. Article: 335986 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: The death of NTSC [BS meter pegged] Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:56:59 -0700 Message-ID: <4gtb92t7vpth9cp8sjhgv96qn0dndr122d@4ax.com> References: <1150044711.018433.58310@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150078931.703921.185060@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 13:46:01 -0400, "Uncle Peter" wrote: >Larry, metal hull damage is usually caused by electrolysis caused by a DC >currents. A sacrificial zince anode is usually used (reverses the >current flow) to control the problem. None-the-less, I'd think an AC >voltage (RF) would completely negate it's effect on the hull with each >cycle--such as why they AC signals to protect a LCD display from the >same damage--can you provide a reference that refutes this? Uncle Ginzo's right about this...although he still can't admit he doesn't know how to figure the RMS value of power from a P-P voltage! Article: 335987 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "LEONARD TAMULONIS" Subject: WTB: Radio Amateur Callbook 1959-1962 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:17:40 GMT Hi! Looking for a Radio Amateur Callbook (North American Edition) any year >from 1959 to 1962. Looking for an entry for W1MEL in New Hampshire. If you have one, will pay good price plus shipping. Please e-mail me. Thanks! Article: 335988 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "LEONARD TAMULONIS" Subject: WTB: Radio AMateur Callbook 1959-1962 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 01:17:41 GMT Hi! Looking to buy a Radio Amateur Callbook (North American Edition) any year from 1959-1962. Should have an entry for W1MEL in New Hampshire. Will pay good price plus shipping. Please e-mail me lenny-t@verizon.net . Thanks! Article: 335989 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: The Zenith lives again! Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:33:36 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150646829.833653.136250@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150662988.284339.124790@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> nesesu wrote: > pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > >>That 15 tube Zenith chassis that had the fire lives to play tunes >>another day! Whew! New band switch (3 deck), new octal socket, >>numerous terminal strips, new first detector and oscillator coils and a >>bunch of new wiring. The fire also melted the stator on the tuning >>condensor. Luckily, the power tranny was still good. My bet is the >>fire started on the middle switch deck, which just happens to be >>switching B+. Replacement parts were taken from a 9S chassis of the >>same year that had the same parts. It took about 25 hours. > Dave, I don't suppose you have any before and after photos?? Sound like > it was a gratifying job when you ended up with sound again! > If anything, he will think long and hard about ever getting rid of it.... About 25 years ago, I did one of my first basket-case restorations....A 1948 Westinghouse console that had been donated to my high school's electronics shop as a parts set. It was not hard to see why it was donated; the chassis showed obvious signs of spectacular and tragic power transformer failure. It had obviously caught fire and got so hot under the chassis that the area around the transformer mounts warped and buckled from the heat. The fire took out all of the components in the FM section of this AM/FM/SW console, and most of the audio components as well. The electronics instructor at the school said that it was too far gone and no one would ever be able to repair it. That was all the motivation I needed.....I set out to prove him wrong and I did it. It took many hours of effort, but I eventually had a radio that played perfectly on all bands and sounded very sweet. I've moved about 10 times since then, but I still have that radio...It is one of my permanent keepers. I will never get rid of it because of the unforgettable experience of bringing it back from the very door of death. -Scott -- DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Mon Jun 19 17:33:38 EDT 2006 Article: 335990 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: 5Y3 test weak Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 18:58:08 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <129c0ruf11ag312@corp.supernews.com> Reply-To: "David Axt" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 8 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn12feed!worldnet.att.net!199.45.49.37!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!feeder.news-service.com!feed.xsnews.nl!feeder.xsnews.nl!sn-ams-06!sn-xt-ams-03!sn-post-ams-01!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:335990 I have a bunch of 5Y3 tubes that test into the "?" range on my B&K 747 tester. Do these tubes normally test weak? I have never come across one that is strong. Thanks, David Article: 335991 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: d Subject: Re: Zenith T0 5OA1 Tube References: Message-ID: <7Lnlg.38169$3B.228@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:13:23 GMT If it has failed, you can purchase an Amperite D5TF30 to replace it. They are current production, cheap and easily found. I have one in my A600, which I am listening to at this very moment! Ish wrote: > Hi All, > I think the 5OA1 tube in my 600 has gone. The radio still works on > battery, but not on AC. > > Is there a way to check continuity on this tube? > > Thanks > ISH Article: 335992 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44960C0A.86C03349@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: The Zenith lives again! References: <1150646829.833653.136250@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150662988.284339.124790@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:30:10 GMT "Scott W. Harvey" wrote: > > nesesu wrote: > > > pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > > > >>That 15 tube Zenith chassis that had the fire lives to play tunes > >>another day! Whew! New band switch (3 deck), new octal socket, > >>numerous terminal strips, new first detector and oscillator coils and a > >>bunch of new wiring. The fire also melted the stator on the tuning > >>condensor. Luckily, the power tranny was still good. My bet is the > >>fire started on the middle switch deck, which just happens to be > >>switching B+. Replacement parts were taken from a 9S chassis of the > >>same year that had the same parts. It took about 25 hours. > > > Dave, I don't suppose you have any before and after photos?? Sound like > > it was a gratifying job when you ended up with sound again! > > > > If anything, he will think long and hard about ever getting rid of it.... > > About 25 years ago, I did one of my first basket-case restorations....A > 1948 Westinghouse console that had been donated to my high school's > electronics shop as a parts set. It was not hard to see why it was > donated; the chassis showed obvious signs of spectacular and tragic > power transformer failure. It had obviously caught fire and got so hot > under the chassis that the area around the transformer mounts warped and > buckled from the heat. The fire took out all of the components in the FM > section of this AM/FM/SW console, and most of the audio components as well. > > The electronics instructor at the school said that it was too far gone > and no one would ever be able to repair it. That was all the motivation > I needed.....I set out to prove him wrong and I did it. It took many > hours of effort, but I eventually had a radio that played perfectly on > all bands and sounded very sweet. > > I've moved about 10 times since then, but I still have that radio...It > is one of my permanent keepers. I will never get rid of it because of > the unforgettable experience of bringing it back from the very door of > death. > > -Scott > > -- > DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE AT THE EMAIL ADDRESS ABOVE! > Instead, go to the following web page to get my real email address: > http://member.newsguy.com/~polezi/scottsaddy.htm > (This has been done because I am sick of SPAMMERS making my email unusable) > > Vintage radio schematics, Binary newsgroup archives, TV Test pattern DVD > and other great radio-related stuff is just one click away at: What did your teacher have to say about your radio after you finished, or did you get a chance to show it to him? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 335993 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Message-ID: References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <4494264D.785377F6@earthlink.net> <1150629050.121785.318660@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <5hklg.7795$lp.5406@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 02:59:01 GMT On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 16:45:19 -0700, "William Sommerwerck" wrote: >> The lead free solder needs a bit more heat, and ends up being >> less shiny once it cools. The stuff has worked for me, but I prefer >> leaded solder... The lead free solder uses antonony(sp). > >Antimony. > >"There's... antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium, >And hydrogen and oxygen and nitrogen and rhenium >And nickel, neodymium, neptunium, germanium, >And iron, americium, ruthenium, uranium, >Europium, zirconium, lutetium, vanadium >And lanthanum and osmium and astatine and radium >And gold, protactinium and indium and gallium (inhale) >And iodine and thorium and thulium and thalium." > yttrium, ytterbium, actinium, rubidium, And boron, gadolinium, niobium, iridium, And strontium... Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 335994 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: 5Y3 test weak Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:15:28 +0900 Message-ID: References: <129c0ruf11ag312@corp.supernews.com> <1150683549.119528.30990@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "nesesu" wrote in message news:1150683549.119528.30990@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > David, if you have a working radio that uses the 5Y3, you can just use > a DVM to measure the AC voltage on the plate and the DC voltage at the > filament, relative to the transformer 'B' winding centre tap and check > an RCA tube manual 5Y3 curve at around 80mA and see if the output > voltage is about what the curve shows. If it is about right, then your > tube tester calibration is off; if the DC voltage is low by 15-20V then > the tubes are, indeed, weak. > Naturally you want to be careful doing the measurements since you are > dealing with potentially lethal voltages! > > Don't you need to multiply that AC voltage by 1.414 and then compare it to the filtered DC? Article: 335995 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <4494264D.785377F6@earthlink.net> <1150629050.121785.318660@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <5hklg.7795$lp.5406@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 23:27:32 -0500 Message-ID: <44961a56$0$9861$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Brian McAllister" wrote in message news:oh4c925unhcb5jhbmba6ugmbedi86siaiu@4ax.com... >>"There's... antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium, >>And hydrogen and oxygen and nitrogen and rhenium >>And nickel, neodymium, neptunium, germanium, >>And iron, americium, ruthenium, uranium, >>Europium, zirconium, lutetium, vanadium >>And lanthanum and osmium and astatine and radium >>And gold, protactinium and indium and gallium (inhale) >>And iodine and thorium and thulium and thalium." >> > yttrium, ytterbium, actinium, rubidium, > And boron, gadolinium, niobium, iridium, > And strontium... and silicon and silver and samarium, And bismuth, bromine, lithium, beryllium and barium. There's holmium and helium and hafnium and erbium And phosphorous and francium and fluorine and terbium And manganese and mercury, molybdinum, magnesium, Dysprosium and scandium and cerium and cesium And lead, praseodymium, platinum, plutonium, Paladium, promethium, potassium, polonium, Tantalum, technetium, titanium, tellurium, And cadmium and calcium and ......... -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Mon Jun 19 17:33:38 EDT 2006 Article: 335996 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Help with Jensen Speaker ID Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:27:08 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <129cd3fl5i15l7e@corp.supernews.com> Reply-To: "David Axt" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 28 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newsflash.concordia.ca!News.Dal.Ca!news.litech.org!news.glorb.com!news.astraweb.com!router2.astraweb.com!216.168.1.175.MISMATCH!sn-xt-sjc-15!sn-xt-sjc-01!sn-xt-sjc-06!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:335996 I bought a pair of speakers at a yard sale and need help identifying them. First of all they are Jensen Gold/Brown labels, that's why I bought them. The numbers/letters are as follows: 220645 5501-15S C15PS C7747-3 So I assume that 220 = Jensen 6 = year 56? 66? 76? 86? 45 = 45th week of the year C = Jensen "Concert" series 15 = 15 inch PS = ? I have heard of P suffix but not PS Any help would be appreciated with other numbers if they mean anything. The magnets do look rather small so I imagine that they do not handle a lot of power. Thanks, David Article: 335997 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: Re: Are 16" transcriptions a full 16" diameter? Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2006 22:37:59 -0700 Message-ID: References: <_-CdnR17wdfRsQvZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@adelphia.com> they are 16 inch if I remember right - I have a 16 inch TT sitting here, but it's dark, can't go measure it. Any TT will do, it's the tonearm that's the trick - photo of my TT is on my web page (www.wbnoble.com) in the forsale section - I sold the tonearm a long time ago, no photo of that. On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:47:07 -0400, "David" wrote: >I do not have one to measure but I am looking at a turntable that might play >them but I need to know if they are exactly 16" dia or run larger or >smaller. >Thanks >Dave > Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 335998 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: I did From: "mike48151" References: <8563-44951BC6-566@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> <1553-44956172-64@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:27:09 GMT On 18-Jun-2006, "Brenda Ann" wrote: >> cuhulin is Steven > > No he isn't. > > cuhulin is and has been a reg on rec.radio.shortwave for a couple years, and > lives in Mississippi. I was wonder whether, in this case, "Steven" might serve as a metaphor -- in effect an adjective. Then "cuhulin is Steven" might make perfect sense even if _the_ Steven weren't cuhulin. Article: 335999 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Decca Deccalian 90 radiogram from about 1951 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:06:33 +0100 Message-ID: I have the service sheet and the original incredibly complicated string path agrees with the graphic details. There is no spring in line with the string and using tuning knob will tune in one direction only. Anyone know why there should be such a biased response , there is only 1 turn around the control shaft.? Other than cleaning all bearings to decrease drag is it advisable to add a spring in line of the string otherwise.? I see no way of replacing with exactly the right (presumably slightly reduced ) string length without a spring. -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, electronic hints and repair briefs http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ Article: 336000 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Message-ID: <8e2d92p37ontiofuii34hki3dvkl9f95ej@4ax.com> References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <4494264D.785377F6@earthlink.net> <1150629050.121785.318660@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <5hklg.7795$lp.5406@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <449620BF.687CF4DD@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:29:28 GMT On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:58:24 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: >Brian McAllister wrote: >> yttrium, ytterbium, actinium, rubidium, >> And boron, gadolinium, niobium, iridium, >> And strontium... > > > You forgot "Unobtainium". ;-) ...These are the only ones of which the news has come to Ha'vard, And there may be many others, but the haven't been discavard. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 336001 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: Subject: Re: FA:unreal Ozarka on ebay Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 12:06:02 GMT Mark, Almost looks like your repro knobs on it. That is one gorgeous radio, way way out of my price range though. Larry Fowkes "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:qJ6dnRZEGvQKewnZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > This is one rare and beautiful radio! a 6 tube tombstone ca: 1932 but what > a cabinet! > > Search "Ozarka" on ebay. > > For some reason, I cant always highlight and copy the ebay search that is > shown in the box above the auction listing. Can anyone explain why? > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 336002 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Re: Decca Deccalian 90 radiogram from about 1951 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:41:50 +0100 Message-ID: References: n cook wrote in message news:e760dv$sfp$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > I have the service sheet and the original incredibly complicated string path > agrees with the graphic details. > There is no spring in line with the string and using tuning knob will tune > in one direction only. Anyone know why there should be such a biased > response , there is only 1 turn around the control shaft.? Other than > cleaning all bearings to decrease drag is it advisable to add a spring in > line of the string otherwise.? I see no way of replacing with exactly the > right (presumably slightly reduced ) string length without a spring. > -- > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, > electronic hints and repair briefs > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > Found a spring inside the large pulley attached to the air-vaned cap and retensioned. Article: 336003 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Garrard RC70 and Plessey record Deck Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:46:58 +0100 Message-ID: With Decca type D magnetic pickup on a Decca Deccalian 90 radio-gram ,1951 or so. The mechanism is dislodged or jammed so the tone arm can move vertically but not rotationally to engage a record. Anyone know where I can find the functional details of the mechanics of the linkages? -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, electronic hints and repair briefs http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ Article: 336004 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Clive" Subject: Re: Garrard RC70 and Plessey record Deck Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:30:45 +0200 Message-ID: References: "n cook" wrote in message news:e769qt$e95$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > With Decca type D magnetic pickup on a Decca Deccalian 90 radio-gram ,1951 > or so. > The mechanism is dislodged or jammed so the tone arm can move vertically but > not rotationally to engage a record. Anyone know where I can find the > functional details of the mechanics of the linkages? > > -- > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, > electronic hints and repair briefs > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > Hmm, are you sure it just hasn't got itself caught in the 'return to home' part of its playing (can you manually spin the tunrtable freely without any resistance ?) If not, just extract the turntable, most of the Decca ones I've seen from this era are pretty straight forward and the linkages are pretty straight forward to workout. Most of the time they have just seized and can be freed up with a liberal application of WD40. //Clive. Article: 336005 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4496BBFB.1752B2DB@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <4494264D.785377F6@earthlink.net> <1150629050.121785.318660@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <5hklg.7795$lp.5406@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <449620BF.687CF4DD@earthlink.net> <8e2d92p37ontiofuii34hki3dvkl9f95ej@4ax.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:00:49 GMT Brian McAllister wrote: > > On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 03:58:24 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" > wrote: > > >Brian McAllister wrote: > > >> yttrium, ytterbium, actinium, rubidium, > >> And boron, gadolinium, niobium, iridium, > >> And strontium... > > > > > > You forgot "Unobtainium". ;-) > > ...These are the only ones of which the news has come to Ha'vard, > And there may be many others, but the haven't been discavard. > > Brian McAllister > > Sarasota, Florida > > email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Like administratium? The heaviest element in the known universe. ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Mon Jun 19 17:33:39 EDT 2006 Article: 336006 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Help with Jensen Speaker ID Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 08:34:57 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <129dgobnlpcadef@corp.supernews.com> Reply-To: "David Axt" References: <129cd3fl5i15l7e@corp.supernews.com> <1150711400.137509.248030@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 49 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newsflash.concordia.ca!News.Dal.Ca!news.wind.surfnet.nl!surfnet.nl!surfnet.nl!txtfeed1.tudelft.nl!tudelft.nl!txtfeed2.tudelft.nl!feed.xsnews.nl!feeder.xsnews.nl!sn-ams-06!sn-xt-ams-08!sn-ams!sn-feed-ams-01!sn-post-ams-01!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:336006 "Steven" wrote in message news:1150711400.137509.248030@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > David Axt wrote: >> I bought a pair of speakers at a yard sale and need help identifying >> them. >> >> First of all they are Jensen Gold/Brown labels, that's why I bought them. >> >> The numbers/letters are as follows: 220645 5501-15S C15PS C7747-3 >> >> So I assume that 220 = Jensen >> >> 6 = year 56? 66? 76? 86? >> >> 45 = 45th week of the year >> >> C = Jensen "Concert" series >> >> 15 = 15 inch >> >> PS = ? I have heard of P suffix but not PS >> >> Any help would be appreciated with other numbers if they mean anything. >> >> The magnets do look rather small so I imagine that they do not handle a >> lot >> of power. >> >> Thanks, >> David > > Don't know myself but > > 1. Lucky YOU > > 2.What did you pay? > > Still enjoying my hidden pait of tweeters immensely. > 1. Thanks 2. $65 for the pair. -DA Article: 336007 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: nospam4me@mytrashmail.com (Herb Oxley) Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 15:39:33 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <4494264D.785377F6@earthlink.net> <1150629050.121785.318660@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <5hklg.7795$lp.5406@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1150674122.633950.314510@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <5P2dnfv4SOSOewjZnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@comcast.com> Scott W. Harvey wrote: > in my reserves in the event the solder manufacturers are ever compelled > to go unleaded. I think lead solder for electronics is likely to disappear as a consumer commodity within the next couple years and be totally outlawed within the next 5 years ( except for critical mil-spec and " Man Rated " electronics) now that leadfree solder is available. Anyone here have an idea of the shelf life of leaded electronic solder? -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Herb Oxley From: address IS Valid. Article: 336008 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Re: Garrard RC70 and Plessey record Deck Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:56:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: Clive wrote in message news:e76cel$gal$1@news.al.sw.ericsson.se... > > "n cook" wrote in message > news:e769qt$e95$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > > With Decca type D magnetic pickup on a Decca Deccalian 90 radio-gram ,1951 > > or so. > > The mechanism is dislodged or jammed so the tone arm can move vertically > but > > not rotationally to engage a record. Anyone know where I can find the > > functional details of the mechanics of the linkages? > > > > -- > > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > > valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, > > electronic hints and repair briefs > > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > > > > > Hmm, are you sure it just hasn't got itself caught in the 'return to home' > part of its playing (can you manually spin the tunrtable freely without any > resistance ?) > > If not, just extract the turntable, most of the Decca ones I've seen from > this era are pretty straight forward and the linkages are pretty straight > forward to workout. Most of the time they have just seized and can be freed > up with a liberal application of WD40. > > file://Clive. > > > I thought initially that something had gone seriously wrong to bend the spindle as it does not look like an engineering job , but finding www pic http://hem.passagen.se/sodas/articles/rc70.jpg that is normal. Something has seriously jarred or a tinkerer been at it so that the end stop for the rotational movement arm under the tonearm seemed to be on the wrong side of the linkages from the main mechanism. Slackening off some of the pivot points and the base of the tonearm pivot I've repositioned and that is now moving freely. There is still something wrong as the motor-off mechanism is falsely engaging after motor start unless I hold back the linkage that breaks the switch mechanism and then it can latch into normal motor run, disconnected >from all linkages, until delatched via switch off or by tonearm moving to lift point. I'll have another explore tomorrow. -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, electronic hints and repair briefs http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ Article: 336009 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4496CF49.A86F7604@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering References: <1150510761.860345.222030@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44937d78$0$3684$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1150541316.531227.67740@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <4494264D.785377F6@earthlink.net> <1150629050.121785.318660@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <5hklg.7795$lp.5406@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1150674122.633950.314510@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <5P2dnfv4SOSOewjZnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@comcast.com> Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:23:12 GMT Herb Oxley wrote: > > Scott W. Harvey wrote: > > > in my reserves in the event the solder manufacturers are ever compelled > > to go unleaded. > > I think lead solder for electronics is likely to disappear as a consumer > commodity within the next couple years and be totally outlawed within the > next 5 years ( except for critical mil-spec and " Man Rated " electronics) > now that leadfree solder is available. > > Anyone here have an idea of the shelf life of leaded electronic solder? > > -- > -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- > Herb Oxley > From: address IS Valid. Infinite, if you seal it properly. You can still use it with liquid RMA flux if the surface oxidizes a little. I have some partial spools of 30 year old spools of Ersin solder that still works like it should. Keep it clean and dry, and wrapped on a spool. Those loose wads that get tossed in a toolbox and get handled too much will corrode from the acids and oils in your skin. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336010 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: Subject: Re: FA:unreal Ozarka on ebay Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:17:27 -0400 Message-ID: you're right, those DO look like my wood repro knobs PK971, but I dont think they are. Just a hair off... The PK971 were originally AK knobs circa 1934 or so., The PK903 are RCA/GE copies from 1931 or so. I started supplying them around 1987 to AES, now I sell hundreds per year directly thru eBay as well. Mark Oppat "Larry Fowkes" wrote in message news:Kqwlg.46610$fb2.16158@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > Mark, > > Almost looks like your repro knobs on it. That is one gorgeous radio, way > way out of my price range though. > > Larry Fowkes > > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:qJ6dnRZEGvQKewnZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > This is one rare and beautiful radio! a 6 tube tombstone ca: 1932 but > what > > a cabinet! > > > > Search "Ozarka" on ebay. > > > > For some reason, I cant always highlight and copy the ebay search that is > > shown in the box above the auction listing. Can anyone explain why? > > > > Mark Oppat > > > > > > > > > Article: 336011 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Are 16" transcriptions a full 16" diameter? Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:51:35 -0700 Message-ID: References: <_-CdnR17wdfRsQvZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@adelphia.com> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 00:47:07 -0400, "David" wrote: >I do not have one to measure but I am looking at a turntable that might play >them but I need to know if they are exactly 16" dia or run larger or >smaller. Subject: Re: HUGE LOT 78RPM RECORDS FOR SALE-(1000) RECORDS FOR $250 Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 11:50:03 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150337599.297628.74500@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1150455087.012457.277570@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150542680.300392.166610@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <1150543185.012350.67890@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150607920.033728.77060@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <1150632719.574727.71940@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150686384.157529.261390@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 18 Jun 2006 20:06:24 -0700, "Gerry" wrote: >One in particular that >comes to mind is Randy Thornton of Walt Disney Records. He did an >excellent job on the recently restored "Mary Poppins", but when it came >to the Disney Park attraction audio, he really botched it so badly that >often the original records sound better than his CDs. I was able to >take some of that same Park audio (secretly copied from original >recording sessions kept in the Disney archives for me by insiders) and >I've done a far superior restoration and remix. The commercially >released CD is crap. The new crop of "engineers" in audio are idiots, by and large. They don't know the basics...everything's computer this, computer that...they really don't know what makes a cut sound well to the listener. Lately, the big "new thing" in rock CDs is "clipping"...yes, I mean digital clipping, where the peaks are shaved at the top by overdriving! Some little snotnose now in the industry put a name to this..."enhanced reality" or some such crap. How it came about was that garage bands would come into your local shopping center studio and record, but yell at the owner, "...and it's gotta be THIS loud!" and hold up a CD of some competing band with a major label contract, with the recorded "stuff" (I don't really call it music, per se) compressed all to crap. Not to be outdone, the "engineer" rams the drive level up to the point where the peak meters are banging the red on every peak...a disaster to any cultured ear or reasonable engineer, but that's how they get it "louder." Of course, the finished result is garbage. Another problem with the come-lately bunch of snotnose kids posing as engineers is that they have NO clue as to the properties of analog tape. If you hand them a reel of anything (much less a reel of long stored Scotch 111!) they blanche and start "improvising." Most probably haven't heard audio on good studio monitors; those horrid little "cubes" suffice for them! I'm afeared that "high fidelity" as we knew it in the latter 20th century is all but dead, replaced by irritating "noise." Article: 336013 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Garyhaite" Subject: test Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 19:20:13 GMT Article: 336014 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Radio Cabinet Part Names??? References: <1150647367.649668.183410@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150676438.405068.107030@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1150716149.355324.32340@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:02:09 GMT Steven wrote: > I used to think the names of chicken parts were racy until I saw a bag > in the deli with 1 breast and one thigh.. > And why plugs are called male and female and what the analogy was... Oh, to go back to 14 years old, but all the knowledge I have now. Except for drinking.... (make it 21 then). Article: 336015 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Shelton" References: Subject: Re: Where can I buy connectors to fit my 1943 Bang & Olufsen (photo) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:06:27 GMT I posted a scan of the instructions for the Telefunken Jubilee Phono plug which looks very much like yours - maybe Telefunken can supply. Bob "JeffS" wrote in message news:eo6dne7CaL93SAjZnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@csd.net... > I've never encountered this sort of connector before: > > http://boulder.net/~4season/master43k_connector.jpg Article: 336016 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: <1150493620.248679.225860@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150496799.550205.207100@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150574583.200571.293090@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1150675054.898753.236350@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: WTB ak 44 radio Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:27:02 GMT Tried your name at aol.com no go. "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1150675054.898753.236350@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > Robert Mozeleski wrote: >> Here's 2 pictures, front is all surface rust. >> http://www.poconoelectronics.com/scans/441.jpg >> http://www.poconoelectronics.com/scans/442.jpg > >> > > > paypal? > email me off group. same name. > eddie > Article: 336017 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: a radio buffet From: "mike48151" References: <1150755802.958131.157140@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:27:40 GMT The radios witrh bakelite cases are pretty obviously highly toxic junk. I'll ensure that they receive proper disposal if you ship them to me. Article: 336018 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: <1150493620.248679.225860@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150496799.550205.207100@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150574583.200571.293090@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1150675054.898753.236350@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: WTB ak 44 radio Message-ID: <7cIlg.2610$DI2.679@trnddc05> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:29:39 GMT Think i got it eb062559 "Robert Mozeleski" wrote in message news:G9Ilg.2609$DI2.197@trnddc05... > Tried your name at aol.com no go. > > "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1150675054.898753.236350@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >> >> Robert Mozeleski wrote: >>> Here's 2 pictures, front is all surface rust. >>> http://www.poconoelectronics.com/scans/441.jpg >>> http://www.poconoelectronics.com/scans/442.jpg >> >>> > >> >> paypal? >> email me off group. same name. >> eddie >> > > Article: 336019 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <1150719373.128859.142680@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Free to Good Home: Zenith 12H090 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 18:38:57 -0700 aaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggg.... I am in phx!!!!!!!!! bob "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1150719373.128859.142680@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > http://radioatticarchives.com/images/z/Zenith_12-H-090_Stanley.jpg > > Similar to this one. Complete excepting the Phono Cartridge. > In the same family since-new (presently held by nephew of original > purchaser). Untested. Displayed in a dining-room for the last 6 years, > before that in the Aunt's living room. > > Pick-up only, it is a beast. ~42" high by 48" wide by 16" deep. Phono > to the left in a slide-out drawer, dial to the right on a tilt-out > panel. > > Cabinet intact and in excellent condition. Photo-finish a bit > alligatored but complete. One screw from the left handle is missing. > All tubes are in place. > > Philadelphia/eastern Montgomery County region. > > Get in touch with me directly if interested. > > pfjw at aol dot com > > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 336020 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1150765695.303792.41090@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: AK cellarette (radiobar) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 01:44:24 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote in message news:1150765695.303792.41090@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... > close up of AK advertising lamp. Bet you've never seen one of > these..... > > http://members.aol.com/EB062559/aklamp.jpg I'll bet I have... That's a Ralph Williams repro shade isn't it? I understand Don Patterson is working on a new repro that's more like the original. Ron -- Radio Collection Web Page, http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com WANTED! http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html Article: 336021 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Power Supply For Car Tube Radio References: <1150757698.522454.44980@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 02:49:16 GMT Actually, it might be under kill. Obviously, you shouldn't need more than 13.2 volts to run most car radios. (6.6 volts for 6 volt radios) But the problem is that 5 amps might not be enough current capacity. Jeff budwilliam@gmail.com wrote: > Hi All, > Would this be overkill or even work for a 1959 ford tube car radio. > It's on the normal auction place. item number 7630755836 > > I could just stick with rechargeing a car battery if overkill. > Thanks, > Bud Williams > Fremont, CA > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 336022 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Radio Cabinet Part Names??? References: <1150647367.649668.183410@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150676438.405068.107030@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1150716149.355324.32340@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150759455.651493.197740@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 02:53:05 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: > You don't want to know about hermaphrodite connectors... Three immediately come to mind. The really odd GR connectors used on some the the 50s-60s vintage Tektronics (and General Radio) test equipment. Look like sets of { and } inner and outer fingers. Then there were the very expensive GR-900 RF connectors, and the HP APC-700 style. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 336023 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <_-CdnR17wdfRsQvZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@adelphia.com> Subject: Re: Are 16" transcriptions a full 16" diameter? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:12:28 GMT As I recall I once made a tone arm out of a piece of strip wood. Got the cartridge balanced right, it did the trick. Later I came across a Garrard 301 motor (12") and an Ortofon tonearm whose mounting position allowed for a 16" transcription. It worked great. However as I recall, some of the World Broadcasting pressings had some sort of burn/break mark along one edge; I'm not quite sure what it was -- some sort of injection sprue? Whatever, on some of these records I had to break it off in order for the record to fit. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "David" wrote in message news:_-CdnR17wdfRsQvZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@adelphia.com... >I do not have one to measure but I am looking at a turntable that might >play them but I need to know if they are exactly 16" dia or run larger or >smaller. > Thanks > Dave > Article: 336024 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1150757698.522454.44980@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Power Supply For Car Tube Radio Message-ID: <7UJlg.2629$DI2.218@trnddc05> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:24:51 GMT To be honest, this radio is not all that demanding. It is a hybrid -- yes it has tubes, but there is no vibrator, no power transformer, and the audio is transistorized. I believe it's a 2N176 on that heat sink in the back (if it's a Motorola -- some of them may have been made by Bendix). For output power you're looking at 6 watts max. Even if it's a Town & Country, the DC motor that drives the dial isn't that bad. You should do just fine with one of those 4-5 amp DC power supplies that you see everywhere. Don't try this on a Delco wonderbar however -- these are springloaded and you need some guts to feed those return solenoids. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:1150757698.522454.44980@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Hi All, > Would this be overkill or even work for a 1959 ford tube car radio. > It's on the normal auction place. item number 7630755836 > > I could just stick with rechargeing a car battery if overkill. > Thanks, > Bud Williams > Fremont, CA > Article: 336025 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1150765695.303792.41090@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150769471.453005.230940@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: AK cellarette (radiobar) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 03:40:16 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote in message news:1150769471.453005.230940@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > > not everyone is the student of atwater kent that you are. i don't know > ron. it looks original to me. it looks to be in about the same > condition that the rest of the lamp is in. pretty much as new. even > the cord, although frayed at a couple of places, is super clean. this > one has been in storage for over 25 years. did he make reproductions > in the early 80's? > I'm not talking about the lamp itself, just the shade. Ralph Williams made repro shades in the 80's. I've seen an original and while they both have Atwater Kent Radios on them they look a lot different. I've passed on several lamp bases because I knew I would have a hard time getting a shade I liked. Ron Article: 336026 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Radio Cabinet Part Names??? References: <1150647367.649668.183410@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1150676438.405068.107030@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1150716149.355324.32340@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1150759455.651493.197740@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <2nLlg.8277$o4.3789@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:06:06 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: >>And why plugs are called male and female and what the analogy was... > > > You don't want to know about hermaphrodite connectors... > > Oh, you mean those General Radio coax connectors? :-) Article: 336027 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <1150755802.958131.157140@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: a radio buffet Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:40:36 GMT Eddie, Looks like you have way too many bread boards there ! Which models are they? That's my kind of dining room! Larry Fowkes "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1150755802.958131.157140@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > just a few junkers laying around my dining room table. if this doesn't > get your blood pumping, you ain't a radio collector! > > http://members.aol.com/EB062559/eyecandy.jpg > Article: 336028 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: this makes NO sense to me! From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <25WdnS4z_9vdEwrZnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:43:42 GMT On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 05:59:15 GMT, Mark Oppat wrote: > Here is a lowly '37 Zenith black dial, 3 band radio, nothing special > cabinet, only a 6 tuber... sold for $194 on ebay just recently > Here is a REAL Zenith, much rarer, 8 tuber, but 5 bands and has a really > nicely made chassis and really performs... and it didnt even get above > $123???? > > discuss. The seller of the higher-price item offered to ship world-wide, while that of the lower-priced item would only allow local pick-up. Hence, one really has only to explain the attitudes of people within practical pick-up range of that lower-priced item. (Additionally, some people near Wauseon might have been positively mistaken as to its location.) The buyer of the '37 was in Pueblo, CO. The high bidder on the '35 was apparently going to make a round-trip from Bolingbrook, IL. (The locations of the second-highest bidders in each case aren't readily determinable. In fact, I stalled in trying to locate any but the high bidder on the '35.) Further, if you'll check the bid history of the '37, it may be inferred that it had a "reserve" price of $194.99. (that for which is sold), and with no such reserve would perhaps have gone for as little as $157.52. We do not know what the reserve price was on the '35, nor the buyer's maximum bid; conceivably he was willing to pay much more but the seller was even more demanding. Article: 336029 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: this makes NO sense to me! From: "Hesham Elmokadem" References: <25WdnS4z_9vdEwrZnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1150800630.087003.99020@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <4vQlg.219727$Fs1.59700@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 10:56:00 GMT On 20-Jun-2006, "Peter Wieck" wrote: > eBay is an irrational venue anyway. I wish that I'd know that before I did it! Article: 336030 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1150755802.958131.157140@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: a radio buffet Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 12:49:17 GMT Maybe that explains it -- Mama said, "pass the bread box" and there you have it! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Larry Fowkes" wrote in message news:EgQlg.152103$F_3.53807@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > Eddie, > > Looks like you have way too many bread boards there ! Which models are > they? That's my kind of dining room! > > Larry Fowkes > > "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message > news:1150755802.958131.157140@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> just a few junkers laying around my dining room table. if this doesn't >> get your blood pumping, you ain't a radio collector! >> >> http://members.aol.com/EB062559/eyecandy.jpg >> > > Article: 336031 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: this makes NO sense to me! Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 07:33:52 -0600 Message-ID: <29606-4497F940-1277@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> References: <4vQlg.219727$Fs1.59700@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Most people i know that like radios dont care how many tubes are in it , some dont care if it works but the ones who do only turn it on once or twice on a local station . They want the radio because of the style and appearance of the cabinet and dial . As collector i appreciate high tube counts but i will go for the one with the attractive case / cabinet first . Article: 336032 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: this makes NO sense to me! From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <4vQlg.219727$Fs1.59700@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <29606-4497F940-1277@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 14:33:16 GMT On Tue, 20 Jun 2006 13:33:52 GMT, Ken G wrote: > Most people i know that like radios dont care how many tubes are in it , > some dont care if it works but the ones who do only turn it on once or > twice on a local station . They want the radio because of the style and > appearance of the cabinet and dial . > > As collector i appreciate high tube counts but i will go for the one > with the attractive case / cabinet first . Given the present and foreseeable quality of broadcasts, it's quite understandable for some people to discount these radios as appliances and treat them as decoration. My own hope is that old radios that are fine electrical devices _or_ good looking will find homes that appreciate them, and that the radios that are _both_ will not be perversely converted. Article: 336033 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: this makes NO sense to me! From: "mike48151" References: <25WdnS4z_9vdEwrZnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:59:02 GMT On 20-Jun-2006, "Phil Nelson" wrote: > Is there really *nothing* to discuss besides eBay auctions? I'm sure that there are many things, and that you can get other such discussions going, Phil. Or you can just complain about this one. > Perhaps one of you would like to create a new forum, > alt.collecting.radio.ebaychat , and move these discussions over there. Perhaps you'd like to get a decent newsreader that will allow you to delete whole threads that bore you, and otherwise to filter content. Article: 336034 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "tombiasi" Subject: Philco 41-258 Speaker Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 15:29:29 -0400 I have been trying to locate a replacement speaker for a Philco 41-258. The schematic doesn't state the impedance, is it 8 Ohms? TIA, Tom Article: 336035 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Biasi" References: <1150832706.652721.164410@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Philco 41-258 Speaker Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 17:43:22 -0400 "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1150832706.652721.164410@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > tombiasi wrote: >> I have been trying to locate a replacement speaker for a Philco 41-258. >> The schematic doesn't state the impedance, is it 8 Ohms? >> TIA, >> Tom > The value will be around 3-4 ohms. You can use an 8 ohm speaker without > hurting anything. There will be a slight loss of output, maybe not > enough to notice. Try subbing in a speaker and see what it sounds like. > The trick is finding something that will physically fit the place where > the old one was. Chassis mounted speakers can require some rigging to > secure them. > Thank you for the info. Its a wooden console, the speaker is mounted over an 8 inch hole with 7 inch spacing between four mounting studs. If its designed for 4 Ohms, I can make an 8 inch automotive speaker fit. Tnx, Tom Article: 336036 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <25WdnS4z_9vdEwrZnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: this makes NO sense to me! Message-ID: <9F_lg.39437$1i1.31116@attbi_s72> Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:29:25 GMT Hi! > Are the Zenith Zombies that mesmerized by that huge black dial? Or, does > nobody care about performance anymore, even in a console? Why would the second radio need anything but an electronic restoration? The cabinet and grille cloth look *beautiful* to my untrained eye. William Article: 336037 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <25WdnS4z_9vdEwrZnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: this makes NO sense to me! Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 22:33:49 GMT Hi! > Is there really *nothing* to discuss besides eBay auctions? I don't know...I don't get to this group too often. But weren't you working on an (RCA) TV recently? Why not tell us about that? I've enjoyed reading your previous posts, and would like to hear more about it. William Article: 336038 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Biasi" References: <1150832706.652721.164410@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1150840352.598097.116750@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Philco 41-258 Speaker Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 18:38:28 -0400 "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1150840352.598097.116750@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Tom Biasi wrote: >> "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message >> news:1150832706.652721.164410@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> > >> > tombiasi wrote: >> >> I have been trying to locate a replacement speaker for a Philco >> >> 41-258. >> >> The schematic doesn't state the impedance, is it 8 Ohms? >> >> TIA, >> >> Tom >> > The value will be around 3-4 ohms. You can use an 8 ohm speaker without >> > hurting anything. There will be a slight loss of output, maybe not >> > enough to notice. Try subbing in a speaker and see what it sounds like. >> > The trick is finding something that will physically fit the place where >> > the old one was. Chassis mounted speakers can require some rigging to >> > secure them. >> > >> Thank you for the info. >> Its a wooden console, the speaker is mounted over an 8 inch hole with 7 >> inch >> spacing between four mounting studs. >> If its designed for 4 Ohms, I can make an 8 inch automotive speaker fit. >> Tnx, >> Tom > There is another issue. Does the original speaker use a field coil? If > so, you will need to make a sub for that coil by either using a choke > or a large power resistor of the same resistance value as item #37 on > the schematic. If your speaker uses a permanent magnet, then you have > no problem. A newer speaker will probably sound better. > Thanks, Its a PM speaker. Tom Article: 336039 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: In Deepest Darkest Indiana Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 19:31:34 -0400 Message-ID: <129h1b2hqj9ad41@corp.supernews.com> A land where life is black and white- literally. As Calvin's dad explained, *film* didn't change in the 1930's, it's that *everything* was black and white in the old days. Remember to combine shipping on pickup- http://cgi.ebay.com/1940-Floor-Model-Philco-180XF-Radio-Pickup-Only_W0QQitemZ6638343504 John H. Article: 336040 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Where can I buy connectors to fit my 1943 Bang & Olufsen (photo) Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 01:45:39 +0200 Message-ID: References: JeffS > Hi Georg, > > I'm looking for both connectors! > > Here's a better photo (with dimensions) > > http://boulder.net/~4season/bando_connectors.jpg > Jeff, the phono connectors was very common in Europe from the 30s to the 60s. I think all German (European?) collectors have them in their assortment. Please wait for a personal mail. Telefunken will not sell them (as Bob wrote) because THE Telefunken company does not exist anymore. The antenna connector is unknown (for me). I will post your question in the RMorg forum. Kind Regards Georg Article: 336041 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <5360-44944827-571@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: I did Message-ID: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2006 23:50:00 GMT Hi! > She pointed at me and she laughed out loud.I slunk away > from her with my tail up my leggs. Huh. Of all the radios I've collected so far (http://greyghost.dyndns.org/radiocollection/) the only ones that have played "out of the box" were the Zenith ones. Some continue to do so just because I haven't had the time to do any more than make sure they had a new power cord. William Article: 336042 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Calling all Philconians Message-ID: <6v0mg.22154$Qg.18644@tornado.southeast.rr.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 00:35:14 GMT Trying to find a chassis to fit a madel 60. Was the same chassis used in different models?... like a 37-60? Article: 336043 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: this makes NO sense to me! References: <25WdnS4z_9vdEwrZnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1150835728.489704.145540@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <9D3mg.19686$uy3.3682@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 04:08:37 GMT Steven wrote: > Angus is great until he starts with the poopy jokes on me OK, how's this for a change then. You're a carbuncle on the ass of humanity. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 336044 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "j" Subject: What is this strange radio? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 04:12:54 GMT A friend bought an antique receiver at a garage sale and we can't find any information about it. The brand name is Taylormade and a nameplate says "receiver license #A7-S" It is in a wooden case with a lid and is slightly larger than a cigar box. It appears to be a shortwave radio receiver from the WWII era. It appears to be a European radio. I cannot find anything about it on the usual searches (Google, Ebay, etc). Can anyone provide me with some information about the device? Article: 336045 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "maxhifi" Subject: Jensen Field Coil Speaker Info Needed Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 05:59:50 GMT Hi All, I haven't posted here in ages, but the place came to mind as a possible resource for something I'm trying to figure out I have a 12" Jensen field coil speaker, model C12R The numbers on the edge of the chassis are 4363 C12R C4365 2 On the back of the cone 2194 2 I am guessing it to have been produced in either the late 1930s, or perhaps early to mid 1940's, but can't be later, as Jensen adoped the RMA code 220 in the late 1940s. The field coil DC resistance measures 916 ohms, and the voice coil about 8 ohms. Right now, it is installed in a DeVry 16mm movie projector amplifier, and the field has exactly 50V on it, which seems a bit low to me. Can someone with access to an old catalogue please help me confirm the correct operating conditions for the field, and possibly any other info about the speaker which can be derived from the information given?? Thank you in advance for any help Max Article: 336046 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "maxhifi" References: <129cd3fl5i15l7e@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Help with Jensen Speaker ID Message-ID: <3q5mg.68972$Mn5.60672@pd7tw3no> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 06:11:11 GMT "David Axt" wrote in message news:129cd3fl5i15l7e@corp.supernews.com... >I bought a pair of speakers at a yard sale and need help identifying them. > > First of all they are Jensen Gold/Brown labels, that's why I bought them. > > The numbers/letters are as follows: 220645 5501-15S C15PS C7747-3 > > So I assume that 220 = Jensen > > 6 = year 56? 66? 76? 86? > probably 66, > 45 = 45th week of the year > Yes > C = Jensen "Concert" series > No, it means Ceramic Magnet (confirm if I'm wrong... is it a ceramic magnet?) > 15 = 15 inch > Yes > PS = ? I have heard of P suffix but not PS > P is the power rating/magnet size, S means special of some sort, does it have a whizzer cone or something? Coaxial? If it was X it would mean extended range > Any help would be appreciated with other numbers if they mean anything. No idea > > The magnets do look rather small so I imagine that they do not handle a > lot of power. Probably not tons, but they are also probably effiicient and don't need a lot to go loud. A photo would really help identify them, or, search eBay completed auctions and look at the Jensens on there > > Thanks, > David > > > Article: 336047 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hans" Subject: crosley 5-38 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 09:27:44 +0200 Message-ID: <4498f4e1$0$32100$3a628fcd@textreader.nntp.hccnet.nl> Hello there, I look for an schematic of an power supply, special for the Crosley 5-38 battery valve (01A) radio, That gives A+, C-, +22.5 volt DC, A- C+, +90volt DC. This on mains 220 volt AC or 120 volt AC. Perhaps an Croley 5-38 owner have made somthing. You do me an great pleasure. In the meantime many thaks. Hans Rademaker. Article: 336048 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: Jensen Field Coil Speaker Info Needed Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:27:36 GMT >From an early 40's data sheet, the C12R came either with a 1250 or 2500 ohm field coil, which required 8 watts for excitation. The field coil was 8 ohms, 10 watts max. 50 volts is definitely low. -- Mike Schultz "maxhifi" wrote in message news:qf5mg.70790$IK3.49471@pd7tw1no... > Hi All, > > I haven't posted here in ages, but the place came to mind as a possible > resource for something I'm trying to figure out > > I have a 12" Jensen field coil speaker, model C12R > > The numbers on the edge of the chassis are > > 4363 C12R C4365 2 > > On the back of the cone > > 2194 2 > > I am guessing it to have been produced in either the late 1930s, or > perhaps early to mid 1940's, but can't be later, as Jensen adoped the RMA > code 220 in the late 1940s. > > The field coil DC resistance measures 916 ohms, and the voice coil about 8 > ohms. > > Right now, it is installed in a DeVry 16mm movie projector amplifier, and > the field has exactly 50V on it, which seems a bit low to me. Can someone > with access to an old catalogue please help me confirm the correct > operating conditions for the field, and possibly any other info about the > speaker which can be derived from the information given?? > > Thank you in advance for any help > > Max > > Article: 336049 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: Subject: Re: Jensen Field Coil Speaker Info Needed Message-ID: <%q7mg.14615$RU4.12403@trnddc03> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:28:43 GMT Ooops, the voice coil is 8 ohms, 10 watts max. -- Mike Schultz "Mike Schultz" wrote in message news:Yp7mg.14614$RU4.13654@trnddc03... > From an early 40's data sheet, the C12R came either with a 1250 or 2500 > ohm field coil, which required 8 watts for excitation. The field coil was > 8 ohms, 10 watts max. > > 50 volts is definitely low. > > -- > Mike Schultz > > > "maxhifi" wrote in message > news:qf5mg.70790$IK3.49471@pd7tw1no... >> Hi All, >> >> I haven't posted here in ages, but the place came to mind as a possible >> resource for something I'm trying to figure out >> >> I have a 12" Jensen field coil speaker, model C12R >> >> The numbers on the edge of the chassis are >> >> 4363 C12R C4365 2 >> >> On the back of the cone >> >> 2194 2 >> >> I am guessing it to have been produced in either the late 1930s, or >> perhaps early to mid 1940's, but can't be later, as Jensen adoped the RMA >> code 220 in the late 1940s. >> >> The field coil DC resistance measures 916 ohms, and the voice coil about >> 8 ohms. >> >> Right now, it is installed in a DeVry 16mm movie projector amplifier, and >> the field has exactly 50V on it, which seems a bit low to me. Can someone >> with access to an old catalogue please help me confirm the correct >> operating conditions for the field, and possibly any other info about the >> speaker which can be derived from the information given?? >> >> Thank you in advance for any help >> >> Max >> >> > > Article: 336050 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Re: Garrard RC70 and Plessey record Deck Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:11:38 +0100 Message-ID: References: n cook wrote in message news:e76hco$g4b$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > Clive wrote in message > news:e76cel$gal$1@news.al.sw.ericsson.se... > > > > "n cook" wrote in message > > news:e769qt$e95$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > > > With Decca type D magnetic pickup on a Decca Deccalian 90 radio-gram > ,1951 > > > or so. > > > The mechanism is dislodged or jammed so the tone arm can move vertically > > but > > > not rotationally to engage a record. Anyone know where I can find the > > > functional details of the mechanics of the linkages? > > > > > > -- > > > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > > > valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, > > > electronic hints and repair briefs > > > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > > > > > > > > > Hmm, are you sure it just hasn't got itself caught in the 'return to home' > > part of its playing (can you manually spin the tunrtable freely without > any > > resistance ?) > > > > If not, just extract the turntable, most of the Decca ones I've seen from > > this era are pretty straight forward and the linkages are pretty straight > > forward to workout. Most of the time they have just seized and can be > freed > > up with a liberal application of WD40. > > > > file://Clive. > > > > > > > > I thought initially that something had gone seriously wrong to bend the > spindle as it does not look like an engineering job , but finding www pic > http://hem.passagen.se/sodas/articles/rc70.jpg > that is normal. > Something has seriously jarred or a tinkerer been at it so that the end stop > for the rotational movement arm under the tonearm seemed to be on the wrong > side of the linkages from the main mechanism. > Slackening off some of the pivot points and the base of the tonearm pivot > I've repositioned and that is now moving freely. > There is still something wrong as the motor-off mechanism is falsely > engaging after motor start unless I hold back the linkage that breaks the > switch mechanism and then it can latch into normal motor run, disconnected > from all linkages, until delatched via switch off or by tonearm moving to > lift point. > I'll have another explore tomorrow. > > -- > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, > electronic hints and repair briefs > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > > I'm defeated by this mechanism. One turn of the main cog wheel is the operation cycle time to complete record drop , arm lift/drop etc before coming back to the toothless section of the cog for all mechanical levers disengaged and motor-on for play. Just before the toothless section the large cam pushes a set of levers to switch off the motor and no obvious extra latch or anything to disengage that action for each turn of the large cam, so it turns off the motor before going into disengaged play mode every time, presumably the same action as manual reject on the on/off lever. Article: 336051 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <_-CdnR17wdfRsQvZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@adelphia.com> <1150858419.163978.253940@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Are 16" transcriptions a full 16" diameter? Message-ID: <45cmg.7024$Za5.1965@trnddc04> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 13:46:40 GMT "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1150858419.163978.253940@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >I don't get it. What's that got to do with the original question? > Okay, translation: The World Broadcasting pressings were 16" diameter, except for some sort of sprue mark that protruded outward, in which case it was a bit bigger. If you chop the sprue mark off, it will fit within an 8" clearance from the spindle to the tone arm. If you don't happen to have a turntable/tone arm that will allow for this clearance, some of us have indeed made tone arms out of stripwood for the purpose. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 336052 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: this makes NO sense to me! Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 07:45:11 -0600 Message-ID: <17207-44994D67-34@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> References: Phil Its hopeless . This newsgroup has had that back alley air for a long time now with some people who dont care about anything . Most of the people who have common courtesy and manners have left . Nothing you or i say will ever help , in fact someone will probably mock this post to .. sad i know .I do find this NG entertaining like a comedy show . Some of it is still ok and helpfull , not all is lost :-) Best go to another forum of some sort for all radio chat and take this one for what it has become . Article: 336053 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: In Deepest Darkest Indiana Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 08:58:11 -0500 Message-ID: <377-44995073-2@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <129h1b2hqj9ad41@corp.supernews.com> I lived in Martinsville,Indiana in 1947.I went back to Indiana again (Bloomington,Indiana) in 1974 to check out an old car a guy had for sale.Turned out the car wasen't worth the money he was asking for the car so I didn't buy the car.On the back home to Deepest Darkest Mississippi,I stopped off at a place in Indiana which had a lot of old things for sale.I bought some wooden spoke car wheels and a master ignition switch that is mounted on a wooden box which holds four Ford T model spark coils.The unit I bought is suppose to take the place/substitute for the original ignition switch and spark coils of Ford T model cars.I still have all of those old things here and many,many more which I bought over the years. cuhulin Article: 336054 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4499666D.5020906@worldnet.att.net> From: Al Schapira Subject: FS: Original Heathkit frequency counter manuals Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:30:13 GMT The following are original Heathkit Operation/Service factory manuals, not copies. They include schematics and PCB X-ray views. Very good condition. Prices include postage to a US address. Thanks for looking. -Al Schapira, W2ADS, a.d.schapira@worldnet.att.net =========================================================== Heathkit SM-118A Autoranging Frequency Counter manual 595-1525-01, 13 pgs, factory manual, no assembly instructions. Includes schematic. Very good. $6. See http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/Heath/SM-118A-1.jpg http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/Heath/SM-118A-2.jpg Heathkit SM-128A Autoranging Frequency Counter manual 595-1556, 14 pgs, factory manual, no assembly instructions. Includes schematic. Very good. $6. See http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/Heath/SM-128A-1.jpg http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/Heath/SM-128A-2.jpg Both for $10 post-paid. =========================================================== Article: 336055 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44996761.1020808@worldnet.att.net> From: Al Schapira Subject: FS: Old "73" ham radio magazine, misc issues '77 -'84 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:34:17 GMT FS: "73" issues below. All in good condition. Thanks for looking. -Al Schapira, W2ADS, a.d.schapira@worldnet.att.net =========================================================== September, 1977 http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/73/73-0977.jpg September, 1980 http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/73/73-0980.jpg September, 1982, http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/73/73-0982.jpg November, 1984, http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/73/73-1184.jpg $5 each post-paid to a US address. $15 for all four. =========================================================== Article: 336056 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44996839.8000304@worldnet.att.net> From: Al Schapira Subject: FS: Original old Lafayette Radio Electronics catalogs; 1965, 1966 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:37:53 GMT For sale: Four original old Lafayette Radio Electronics catalogs in very good condition. All include original attached order blank and return envelope. =========================================================== Lafayette Radio Electronics Holiday gift catalog # 661, 1965. Very good condition. 108 pgs. 6 1/2 x 9 1/4. http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/Lafayette/L-661.jpg $7, includes postage. Lafayette Radio Electronics Winter catalog # 662, 1965. Very good condition. 108 pgs. 6 1/2 x 9 1/4. http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/Lafayette/L-662.jpg $7, includes postage. Lafayette Radio Electronics Summer 1966 catalog # 664, 1966. Very good condition. 110 pgs. 6 1/2 x 9 1/4. http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/Lafayette/L-664.jpg $7, includes postage. Lafayette Radio Electronics 50th Golden Jubilee catalog # 710, 1971. Very good condition. 468 pgs. 6 1/4 x 8 1/4. http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/Lafayette/L-710.jpg $12, includes postage. =========================================================== All four for $30. Prices include postage to a US address. Thanks for looking. -Al Schapira, W2ADS, a.d.schapira@worldnet.att.net Article: 336058 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4499699F.7010000@worldnet.att.net> From: Al Schapira Subject: FS: Old National Radio Institute (NRI) publications Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:43:51 GMT For sale: Four original old National Radio Institute (NRI) publications in good condition. Prices include postage to a US address. Thanks for looking. -Al Schapira, W2ADS, a.d.schapira@worldnet.att.net =========================================================== (1924 NRI) "Lesson 1 of a Complete Course in Radio Telegraphy and Telephony", Tenth Edition, Copyright by National Radio Institute, Inc, Washington, D.C., 6x9, 64 pgs, softcover, covered with cardboard and brown paper by original owner, perfect inside. Contains some great photographs. http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/NRI/Lesson1-1.jpg http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/NRI/Lesson1-2.jpg $7 post-paid. $10 post-paid for both this and Lesson 2, below. (1924 NRI) "Lesson 2 of a Complete Course in Radio Telegraphy and Telephony" --'Electrical Units and Circuits, The Electric Current, Switches, Insulators, Conductors and Circuit Breakers', Tenth Edition, Copyright by National Radio Institute, Inc, Washington, D.C., 6x9, 59 pgs, softcover, covered with cardboard and brown paper by original owner, perfect inside. http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/NRI/Lesson2-1.jpg $7 post-paid. $10 post-paid for both this and Lesson 1, above. NRI Radio-Television-Electronics Dictionary, IX-3, 1951. Excellent condition. 96 pgs. 5 3/4 x 8 1/2. http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/NRI/Dictionary.jpg $7 post-paid. NRI "Instructions for Operating the NRI Professional Signal Tracer". Undated. Includes schematic. Very good condition. 14 pgs. 8 1/2 x 11. http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/NRI/Model33-1.jpg http://home.att.net/~a.schapira/NRI/Model33-2.jpg $7 post-paid. =========================================================== $20 post-paid for all four. Article: 336059 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Montana Radio Stations Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:40:20 -0500 Message-ID: <11218-44996864-44@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <1150842079.019674.236850@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I lived in Bozeman,Montana from June untill a week or two before Christmas 1956.I dont remember much about the Radio stations in Montana though.At that time,my dad (www.mbakercorp.com home based here in Mississippi) owned a blue Ford door Ford station wagon,the car had a good radio.The Michael Baker company car which also went to Montana with us was a 1956 Ford car,I dont remember if it had a radio in it or not.He was a construction supervisor,microwave tower and equipment building on top of a mountain not far East of Bozeman. cuhulin Article: 336060 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Free To Good Home - Added Inducement - Zenith 12H090 From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <1150899637.634189.307090@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150901861.160905.156570@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:57:27 GMT I have sent a note (with a link) to a friend in Camden. This unit is not to my own tastes, but I'd love to see it placed with someone who would care for it. Article: 336061 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Re: Garrard RC70 and Plessey record Deck Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:00:37 +0100 Message-ID: References: n cook wrote in message news:e7b9fo$1ev$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > n cook wrote in message > news:e76hco$g4b$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > > Clive wrote in message > > news:e76cel$gal$1@news.al.sw.ericsson.se... > > > > > > "n cook" wrote in message > > > news:e769qt$e95$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > > > > With Decca type D magnetic pickup on a Decca Deccalian 90 radio-gram > > ,1951 > > > > or so. > > > > The mechanism is dislodged or jammed so the tone arm can move > vertically > > > but > > > > not rotationally to engage a record. Anyone know where I can find the > > > > functional details of the mechanics of the linkages? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > > > > valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, > > > > electronic hints and repair briefs > > > > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hmm, are you sure it just hasn't got itself caught in the 'return to > home' > > > part of its playing (can you manually spin the tunrtable freely without > > any > > > resistance ?) > > > > > > If not, just extract the turntable, most of the Decca ones I've seen > from > > > this era are pretty straight forward and the linkages are pretty > straight > > > forward to workout. Most of the time they have just seized and can be > > freed > > > up with a liberal application of WD40. > > > > > > file://Clive. > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thought initially that something had gone seriously wrong to bend the > > spindle as it does not look like an engineering job , but finding www pic > > http://hem.passagen.se/sodas/articles/rc70.jpg > > that is normal. > > Something has seriously jarred or a tinkerer been at it so that the end > stop > > for the rotational movement arm under the tonearm seemed to be on the > wrong > > side of the linkages from the main mechanism. > > Slackening off some of the pivot points and the base of the tonearm pivot > > I've repositioned and that is now moving freely. > > There is still something wrong as the motor-off mechanism is falsely > > engaging after motor start unless I hold back the linkage that breaks the > > switch mechanism and then it can latch into normal motor run, disconnected > > from all linkages, until delatched via switch off or by tonearm moving to > > lift point. > > I'll have another explore tomorrow. > > > > -- > > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > > valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, > > electronic hints and repair briefs > > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > > > > > > > I'm defeated by this mechanism. > One turn of the main cog wheel is the operation cycle time to complete > record drop , arm lift/drop etc before coming back to the toothless section > of the cog for all mechanical levers disengaged and motor-on for play. > Just before the toothless section the large cam pushes a set of levers to > switch off the motor and no obvious extra latch or anything to disengage > that action for each turn of the large cam, so it turns off the motor before > going into disengaged play mode every time, presumably the same action as > manual reject on the on/off lever. > > It would have helped if I'd seen one of these decks in operation but I think I've cracked it. Reject does not mean reject from play followed by motor stop , it just means reject from play. You cancel the motor by manually switching to off or what I assume is the proper trip mechanism . If the tone-arm goes in too far and the normal lift mechanism fails to operate then the trip is de-latched to switch off the motor - ie not normal operation. The cam position just prior to the cog teeth gap is for setting this position , just less than trip , not for tripping the motor off. It all seems to be running properly now, but not checked with records yet. Anyone familiar with the anti-skating ? mechanism, I don't want it to be too resistant to movement and break the original stylus. Cartridge and stylus removed during all this exploration. I'm thinking of removing the stylus and pivot from the magnetic coil and lightly gluing some bulk-standard LP sapphire stylus underneath on first checks with records, any better ideas ?. For the archives, I think I'll take photos of this mechanism and also take a scanner scan of the radio tuning glass. -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ Article: 336062 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Jensen Field Coil Speaker Info Needed Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:36:32 -0400 "maxhifi" wrote in message news:qf5mg.70790$IK3.49471@pd7tw1no... > Hi All, > > I haven't posted here in ages, but the place came to mind as a possible > resource for something I'm trying to figure out > > I have a 12" Jensen field coil speaker, model C12R > > The numbers on the edge of the chassis are > > 4363 C12R C4365 2 > > On the back of the cone > > 2194 2 > > I am guessing it to have been produced in either the late 1930s, or > perhaps early to mid 1940's, but can't be later, as Jensen adoped the RMA > code 220 in the late 1940s. > > The field coil DC resistance measures 916 ohms, and the voice coil about 8 > ohms. > > Right now, it is installed in a DeVry 16mm movie projector amplifier, and > the field has exactly 50V on it, which seems a bit low to me. Can someone > with access to an old catalogue please help me confirm the correct > operating conditions for the field, and possibly any other info about the > speaker which can be derived from the information given?? > > Thank you in advance for any help > > Max > 50 Volts seems right as it gives a little over 50ma at the close to 1K DCR. Syl From adouglasatgis.net Thu Jun 22 21:14:32 EDT 2006 Article: 336063 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Help with Jensen Speaker ID Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:37:12 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: <129cd3fl5i15l7e@corp.supernews.com> <3q5mg.68972$Mn5.60672@pd7tw3no> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-829.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!canoe.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!pln-w!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:336063 Hi, >> The numbers/letters are as follows: 220645 5501-15S C15PS C7747-3 >> So I assume that 220 = Jensen Yes. >> 6 = year 56? 66? 76? 86? >> >probably 66, I would think 56. 1966 would probably have used both digits to avoid confusion with older codes. Alan From adouglasatgis.net Thu Jun 22 21:14:33 EDT 2006 Article: 336064 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Jensen Field Coil Speaker Info Needed Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 12:48:52 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <%q7mg.14615$RU4.12403@trnddc03> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-270.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:336064 Hi, 916 ohms cold could have been the same coil as 1250 ohms hot. My oldest RMA list is July 1946 and goes up to 477. The original list was alphabetical from Admiral (101) to Zenith (343) and all the higher numbers were randomly assigned. So I presume the original list must have predated 1946. Alan Article: 336065 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <_-CdnR17wdfRsQvZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@adelphia.com> <1150900486.990534.58190@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Are 16" transcriptions a full 16" diameter? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:09:34 GMT My first car was a 54 Plymouth, not unlike this car. I'd love to get it back -- but -- I'll keep the T-Bird. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:1150900486.990534.58190@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > William B Noble (don't reply to this address) wrote: >>- photo of my TT is on my web page >> (www.wbnoble.com) > > I love the Dodge Coronet. And it's in my colour, too!!!! > > Someday...... *sigh* > > Why do you blank out the licenceplates, by the way. It's not like > they're not in plain view when you're trundling that hunk of iron on > the street anyway. :) > > -- > steph > Article: 336066 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Are 16" transcriptions a full 16" diameter? Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:02:12 -0700 Message-ID: References: <_-CdnR17wdfRsQvZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@adelphia.com> On Mon, 19 Jun 2006 20:58:30 GMT, robert casey wrote: >IIRC, some of these records start from the inside and play towards the >outside, also some used up-and-down instead of side-to-side groove >undulations. Correct on both counts. Together, called the Western Electric system. They also used a stylus with a different diameter spherical tip. From adouglasatgis.net Thu Jun 22 21:14:33 EDT 2006 Article: 336067 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: crosley 5-38 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 13:03:08 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Lines: 28 Message-ID: <9bui929ivgted4n365hsggd236oq5b3a92@4ax.com> References: <4498f4e1$0$32100$3a628fcd@textreader.nntp.hccnet.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-403.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!arclight.uoregon.edu!wns14feed!worldnet.att.net!129.250.175.17!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news3 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:336067 Hi, Hans wrote: >I look for an schematic of an power supply, special >for the Crosley 5-38 battery valve (01A) radio, >That gives A+, C-, +22.5 volt DC, A- C+, +90volt DC. > >This on mains 220 volt AC or 120 volt AC. There was a brief discussion on the Antique Radio Forum a few weeks ago, with some suggestions of sources for a supply like this. http://antiqueradios.com/forums/ I don't remember which forum it was on, but you could either search there are post a request of your own. Many of these supplies use a 120/240 transformer with the second primary used as a secondary, so they would not be suitable for 230V mains. The 22.5V is not at all critical: anything up to 45V will work equally well. And if your B+ is limited to 90V you don't really need C bias at all. C bias mainly reduces the B+ current drain, which is a problem with dry batteries but not a problem with an AC supply. A 1.5V cell would work however if you want to use it. Alan Article: 336068 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Help with Jensen Speaker ID Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:06:22 -0700 Message-ID: <92vi92t6k2a904n1e4n7oq5lqek2v33040@4ax.com> References: <129cd3fl5i15l7e@corp.supernews.com> <3q5mg.68972$Mn5.60672@pd7tw3no> On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 06:11:11 GMT, "maxhifi" wrote: >No, it means Ceramic Magnet (confirm if I'm wrong... is it a ceramic >magnet?) Correct. "C" = ceramic cheapies, "P" = AlNiCo >> PS = ? I have heard of P suffix but not PS Special, probably an OEM job. Article: 336069 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: RCA MX7 Tube Receiver Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 10:19:11 -0700 Message-ID: <2bvi925ic1cgj139qqo4m68liivsokv19j@4ax.com> References: <1150891578.223779.68220@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> On 21 Jun 2006 05:06:18 -0700, "phil" wrote: >Hello all! I received a RCA mx7 tube receiver that was about to thrown >in the trash. Good place for it. > It seems to be in pretty good shape overall. Any info you >could tell me about this unit. Parts availibilty? What parts do you mean? Model-exclusive parts are long since gone, but discrete components for most tube stuff can be had easily. > Is it worth anything? A buck or two on fraudBay. Article: 336070 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: POWER SUPPLY FOR 6 VOLT RADIOS Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:30:39 -0500 Message-ID: <21484-4499AC6F-73@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Here is a power supply for a 6 volt radio that will run up to 6 '01A's. Buy a 5 volt, 3 amp computer power supply, one of the "brute force" types with a transformer. Get one of the type having a 110/220 volt primary. These are realily available both new and used on ebay. Prices range from $5.00 to $15.00. Adjust the 5 volts to 5.5 or 6.0 volts, tubes will last longer if the filaments are run slightly below ratings. Cut one half on the 220 primary loose and rectify and filter it. (47uF, 47uF and a 2000 ohm 1/2 Watt resistor) run the voltage to a string of 25 volt zeners each paralleled with a 22K or 27K resistor. This will give you 25, 50, 75,100 and 125 volts each terminated in a terminal strip. I happen to have 24 volt zeners by the box full and they work just as well. A bias supply can be made by moving the ground up the string one zener (making 100 volts max. on the B+) put a potentiometer in place of the fixed resistor and you will have 0-25 volts bias. This supply will easily run any radio i have seen. The elimination of the primary cuts the current available from the power supply to 1.5 amps which will still run 6 '01As. Please let me know if there are any questions. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 336071 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Story and Clark Piano with RCA VICTOR! Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 15:38:02 -0500 Message-ID: <376-4499AE2A-65@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: google,Story & Clark Pianos Radio Self Tuning? cuhulin Article: 336072 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Is we is or is we ain't? Message-ID: <%Ajmg.5349$Td6.2827@trnddc08> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:18:35 GMT Well, it seems about a week after deciding to drop out of repairs, I now have more of these than ever! I got a few calls and couldn't turn them down . . . I certainly don't mind the repairs, just the fact that they take more time and are less profitable. I'm finally getting caught up with conversions, so I can actually spend a little time now. So . . . I'll continue to accept them -- for now -- but cut it from advertising. Lessee, 37 Pontiac, 37 Ford, 47 Ford, 48 Chevy, 53 Buick, 55 Pontiac, 62 Corvette, and 63 Mercury -- is that enough to keep me busy? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 336073 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <%Ajmg.5349$Td6.2827@trnddc08> <1150929241.822401.200580@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is we is or is we ain't? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:00:04 GMT "Steven" wrote in message news:1150929241.822401.200580@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > If you fix it, they will come. > THAT is probably the understatement of the year! More like, "If I'm willing to take a peek at it,, the floodgates will open." By the way, do you have a jukebox that plays 33 rpm? There were a few . . . seems there were also a few that played cassettes. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 336074 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Garrard RC70 and Plessey record Deck Message-ID: <3mkmg.5385$Td6.2298@trnddc08> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 23:10:55 GMT Regarding the anti-skate, you can't go wrong just to turn it off -- remembering that many turntables don't have this feature. You certainly shouldn't break the stylus by operating without the anti-skate. To adjust, start with the anti-skate in the off position. Then view the needle itself from the front -- is it centered in the cartridge? Now carefully lower it onto a record. Note the needle -- it may be pulling a little to one side. Adjust the anti-skate until the needle is positioned the same as when it's off the record. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "n cook" wrote in message news:e7bqcs$fuu$1@inews.gazeta.pl... >n cook wrote in message > news:e7b9fo$1ev$1@inews.gazeta.pl... >> n cook wrote in message >> news:e76hco$g4b$1@inews.gazeta.pl... >> > Clive wrote in message >> > news:e76cel$gal$1@news.al.sw.ericsson.se... >> > > >> > > "n cook" wrote in message >> > > news:e769qt$e95$1@inews.gazeta.pl... >> > > > With Decca type D magnetic pickup on a Decca Deccalian 90 >> > > > radio-gram >> > ,1951 >> > > > or so. >> > > > The mechanism is dislodged or jammed so the tone arm can move >> vertically >> > > but >> > > > not rotationally to engage a record. Anyone know where I can find > the >> > > > functional details of the mechanics of the linkages? >> > > > >> > > > -- >> > > > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England >> > > > valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, >> > > > electronic hints and repair briefs >> > > > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > Hmm, are you sure it just hasn't got itself caught in the 'return to >> home' >> > > part of its playing (can you manually spin the tunrtable freely > without >> > any >> > > resistance ?) >> > > >> > > If not, just extract the turntable, most of the Decca ones I've seen >> from >> > > this era are pretty straight forward and the linkages are pretty >> straight >> > > forward to workout. Most of the time they have just seized and can be >> > freed >> > > up with a liberal application of WD40. >> > > >> > > file://Clive. >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > I thought initially that something had gone seriously wrong to bend the >> > spindle as it does not look like an engineering job , but finding www > pic >> > http://hem.passagen.se/sodas/articles/rc70.jpg >> > that is normal. >> > Something has seriously jarred or a tinkerer been at it so that the end >> stop >> > for the rotational movement arm under the tonearm seemed to be on the >> wrong >> > side of the linkages from the main mechanism. >> > Slackening off some of the pivot points and the base of the tonearm > pivot >> > I've repositioned and that is now moving freely. >> > There is still something wrong as the motor-off mechanism is falsely >> > engaging after motor start unless I hold back the linkage that breaks > the >> > switch mechanism and then it can latch into normal motor run, > disconnected >> > from all linkages, until delatched via switch off or by tonearm moving > to >> > lift point. >> > I'll have another explore tomorrow. >> > >> > -- >> > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England >> > valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, >> > electronic hints and repair briefs >> > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ >> > >> > >> > >> >> I'm defeated by this mechanism. >> One turn of the main cog wheel is the operation cycle time to complete >> record drop , arm lift/drop etc before coming back to the toothless > section >> of the cog for all mechanical levers disengaged and motor-on for play. >> Just before the toothless section the large cam pushes a set of levers to >> switch off the motor and no obvious extra latch or anything to disengage >> that action for each turn of the large cam, so it turns off the motor > before >> going into disengaged play mode every time, presumably the same action as >> manual reject on the on/off lever. >> >> > > It would have helped if I'd seen one of these decks in operation but I > think > I've cracked it. > Reject does not mean reject from play followed by motor stop , it just > means > reject from play. You cancel the motor by manually switching to off or > what > I assume is the proper trip mechanism . If the tone-arm goes in too far > and > the normal lift mechanism fails to operate then the trip is de-latched to > switch off the motor - ie not normal operation. The cam position just > prior > to the cog teeth gap is for setting this position , just less than trip , > not for tripping the motor off. It all seems to be running properly now, > but > not checked with records yet. > Anyone familiar with the anti-skating ? mechanism, I don't want it to be > too > resistant to movement and break the original stylus. Cartridge and stylus > removed during all this exploration. I'm thinking of removing the stylus > and > pivot from the magnetic coil and lightly gluing some bulk-standard LP > sapphire stylus underneath on first checks with records, any better ideas > ?. > For the archives, I think I'll take photos of this mechanism and also take > a > scanner scan of the radio tuning glass. > > -- > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > > Article: 336075 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: need info on old zenith 500 Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 18:26:03 -0500 Message-ID: <10362-4499D58B-88@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <2327-4495EB6A-931@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> Here is a website with information about Zenith 500 radios. http://users.arczip.com/rmcgarra2/royal500.html cuhulin Article: 336076 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Montana Radio Stations Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:37:32 -0600 Message-ID: <12906-4499D83C-145@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net> References: <11218-44996864-44@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> home based here in Mississippi) owned a blue Ford door Ford station wagon,the car had a good radio.The Michael Baker company car which also went to Montana with us was a 1956 Ford car,I dont remember if it had a radio in it or not.He was a construction .. ......................................................... Can you remember whay you had for lunch that day . Article: 336077 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:55:08 -0500 Message-ID: <376-4499EA6C-101@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <1150935617.420642.175890@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> I know a guy in New England.(Pennsylvania) Something he had bought and it was suppose to have been shipped to his address via UPS.UPS sent the item to the wrong address in the same city he lives in. About five years ago,I bought a Brickwall model PW8R15 Surge Protector,it cost me about $209.00 plus about $9.00 S & H. (www.brickwall.com www.pricewheeler.com) I was in my bathroom and before I could get to my front door,the UPS guy had set the item down between my screen door and my front door and he had driven on away.Anybody could have stepped over to my front door and helped themselves to my Brickwall.UPS needs to Tighten Up! By the way,the post office letter carrier that had my neighboor hood on his mail route a few years ago was extremly bad about leaving other peoples snail mail in other peoples snail mail boxes.It happened again last week with the other letter carrier guy.He left a letter in my snail mail box which belonged to someone who lives accross the street from me.There is no excuse for being so sloopy on the job as that. cuhulin Article: 336078 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Montana Radio Stations Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 19:58:05 -0500 Message-ID: <376-4499EB1D-102@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <12906-4499D83C-145@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net> Yeah,Beans and Rice.Or was it,Pork and Beans? It could have been a Burrito. cuhulin Article: 336079 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 20:05:43 -0500 Message-ID: <376-4499ECE7-103@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: Always stand right there when they slap those labels on the boxes and always double check yourself that the right labels are on the right boxes.Like that voice on that recording on the JT and Dave radio talk show says,Never Trust Nobody! cuhulin Article: 336080 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything References: <1150935610.141943.17480@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1150938198.617777.85660@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1150938842.221611.252280@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <_dmmg.9056$f76.6208@dukeread06> Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:18:47 -0400 If you ever get your packages back, some will probably be broken. Ken pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > Eddie, > Thanks for the tip on Greyhound. They are a pain to get to, but if the > end result is good then OK. Thanks, > Dave > Article: 336081 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: newbie question e-caps From: Paul Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 01:19:20 GMT I'm re-capping a stromberg carlson 400h radio, I've replaced the paper capacitors and are going to replace the electrolytic capacitors. They are in a can on the top side of the radios chassis, my question concerns the polarity which side do the negative ends of the caps go to - ground? Or other way round? I have the schematic but it's not clearly marked and I don't see any marking on the can its self. Any help with this would be appreciated! Thanks Paul Article: 336082 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Phipps" Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:39:38 -0500 Message-ID: <129k0n9p137qr88@corp.supernews.com> References: <1150935610.141943.17480@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> As of a few weeks ago, the local UPS terminal started a major "shake up" that includes changes to their computer information system (loaders placing new route number tags on all packages) and restructuring of routes. It also includes moving dock loaders and other terminal employees from their usual assignments into new areas. I've dealt with it for a few weeks now via my employer and it's been "interesting" to say the least. Don't know if the implementation is nationwide, but loaders getting route number tags messed up sounds way too familiar... Steve wrote in message news:1150935610.141943.17480@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Last week, I shipped 4 packages via UPS. All four were delivered to > the wrong addresses. Article: 336083 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything References: <1150935617.420642.175890@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 03:02:15 GMT pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > By the way, I was told by UPS that an inexperienced driver made > the screw up of placing the wrong labels on the packages. So, explain to me how it was that YOU didn't put the labels on the packages? Or have the packages clearly marked as to who, what where etc. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 336084 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <25WdnS4z_9vdEwrZnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: this makes NO sense to me! Message-ID: <2Aomg.41105$1i1.3233@attbi_s72> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 03:58:54 GMT Hi! > Here is a crappy workbench photo displaying an image from a > miserably cheap Costco DVD player. Sounds like there's not a lot to like about the photo. :-) Really, though, I didn't think it looked half bad. To my totally untrained eye, it looks like the picture tube is in good condition (the picture seems bright, and I would assume that the focus would be better when directly viewing the set) and the rest of the set must be working fairly well. Getting good focus out of a CRT snapshot is hard to do. I've usually ended up trying something else, like a direct screen capture of some kind if the displaying device would permit me to do so. Anyway, thanks for replying. I'm glad to see the set is coming along. I will look forward to reading about it on your site. William Article: 336085 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: Re: Are 16" transcriptions a full 16" diameter? Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 21:56:55 -0700 Message-ID: References: <_-CdnR17wdfRsQvZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@adelphia.com> <1150900486.990534.58190@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> I blank out the licence plates out of the usual internet paranoia - to get the licence number by seeing the car, you have to be there to see the car - no problem. To get the license and perform some mischief via the interent, you could be anywhere - for example, Nigeria, or even my neighbor, and I would never know. And, who needs to read the license to enjoy the car? (and yes, that car has a TUBE TYPE radio, so this is actually vaguely on topic - I made my own solid state vibrator, but I took the SS vibrator out when I reversed the battery to allow using an FM radio and thanks for the compliment. now, back to 16 inch turntables (anyone want mine? I'd love to find a home for it and add a few $ to my tool and misc fun fund) It came >from a radio station at one time.... On 21 Jun 2006 07:34:47 -0700, "Stephanie Weil" wrote: > >William B Noble (don't reply to this address) wrote: >>- photo of my TT is on my web page >> (www.wbnoble.com) > >I love the Dodge Coronet. And it's in my colour, too!!!! > >Someday...... *sigh* > >Why do you blank out the licenceplates, by the way. It's not like >they're not in plain view when you're trundling that hunk of iron on >the street anyway. :) Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 336086 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <21484-4499AC6F-73@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: POWER SUPPLY FOR 6 VOLT RADIOS Message-ID: <4spmg.183$ii.68@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 04:58:40 GMT Nice to see you active in the newsgroup Bill! Omer "Bill Turner" wrote in message news:21484-4499AC6F-73@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net... > Here is a power supply for a 6 volt radio that will run up to 6 '01A's. > Buy a 5 volt, 3 amp computer power supply, one of the "brute force" > types with a transformer. Get one of the type having a 110/220 volt > primary. These are realily available both new and used on ebay. Prices > range from $5.00 to $15.00. > > Adjust the 5 volts to 5.5 or 6.0 volts, tubes will last longer if the > filaments are run slightly below ratings. > > Cut one half on the 220 primary loose and rectify and filter it. (47uF, > 47uF and a 2000 ohm 1/2 Watt resistor) run the voltage to a string of > 25 volt zeners each paralleled with a 22K or 27K resistor. This will > give you 25, 50, 75,100 and 125 volts each terminated in a terminal > strip. I happen to have 24 volt zeners by the box full and they work > just as well. > > A bias supply can be made by moving the ground up the string one zener > (making 100 volts max. on the B+) put a potentiometer in place of the > fixed resistor and you will have 0-25 volts bias. > > This supply will easily run any radio i have seen. The elimination of > the primary cuts the current available from the power supply to 1.5 amps > which will still run 6 '01As. > > Please let me know if there are any questions. > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. > > > > Article: 336087 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: Re: Are 16" transcriptions a full 16" diameter? Date: Wed, 21 Jun 2006 22:04:10 -0700 Message-ID: <2q8k92tlvfei2ugp6coe2qta3ns7q8u93c@4ax.com> References: <_-CdnR17wdfRsQvZnZ2dnUVZ_o6dnZ2d@adelphia.com> <1150900486.990534.58190@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> yeah, that 51 dodge has "all the advantages" - low reving flat head 6, heavy car getting 12 mpg, lots of room inside and out, no power steering, no power brakes, fluid drive (you-all know about fluid drive), 6 volt electrical system, trunk you can sleep in, no AC, leaky heater core, oil bath air cleaner (never replace), lots of pollution (draft tube anyone?), fake snakesking dash (factory original) - yep, they don't make them like they used to........ I paid $50 for that car in 1976, overhauled and spiffed it up, wife drove it for about 10 years - parked it, older daughter resotred and painted it, drove it to HS and College, gave it to younger daughter, she overhauled brakes (brass sleeving in cylinders), timing chain, fuel pump, rewired part of harness, drove it to college for a year or so - yep, it was well worth the $50, and neither daughter will take s**t from anyone who tells them "yes, miss, you need a new muffler bearing for $399.95" - I have no sympathy for the "I can't do this, I'm a girl" approach to mechanics, as you can see. The same approach probably works with radios, but you don't want a radio as bad as a car when you are 16, so a car works better for teaching tool skills. And both young ladies now take much better care of their car than any of their friends or contemproraries On Wed, 21 Jun 2006 17:09:34 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >My first car was a 54 Plymouth, not unlike this car. I'd love to get it >back -- but -- I'll keep the T-Bird. Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 336088 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: FA:unreal Ozarka on ebay Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 06:07:44 GMT "mike48151" wrote in message news:iGelg.209152$Fs1.157585@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > On 18-Jun-2006, "graham" wrote: > >> ... shorted the link to just past the item number .. >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/1932-Ozarka-V6-tombstone-tube-radio-RARE_W0QQitemZ6638607175 > > Shorter still: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6638607175 Shorter yet: http://cgi.ebay.com/_W0QQitemZ6638607175 jim menning Article: 336089 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Re: Garrard RC70 and Plessey record Deck Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:56:09 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3mkmg.5385$Td6.2298@trnddc08> Gary Tayman wrote in message news:3mkmg.5385$Td6.2298@trnddc08... > Regarding the anti-skate, you can't go wrong just to turn it off -- > remembering that many turntables don't have this feature. You certainly > shouldn't break the stylus by operating without the anti-skate. > > To adjust, start with the anti-skate in the off position. Then view the > needle itself from the front -- is it centered in the cartridge? Now > carefully lower it onto a record. Note the needle -- it may be pulling a > little to one side. Adjust the anti-skate until the needle is positioned > the same as when it's off the record. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > "n cook" wrote in message > news:e7bqcs$fuu$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > >n cook wrote in message > > news:e7b9fo$1ev$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > >> n cook wrote in message > >> news:e76hco$g4b$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > >> > Clive wrote in message > >> > news:e76cel$gal$1@news.al.sw.ericsson.se... > >> > > > >> > > "n cook" wrote in message > >> > > news:e769qt$e95$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > >> > > > With Decca type D magnetic pickup on a Decca Deccalian 90 > >> > > > radio-gram > >> > ,1951 > >> > > > or so. > >> > > > The mechanism is dislodged or jammed so the tone arm can move > >> vertically > >> > > but > >> > > > not rotationally to engage a record. Anyone know where I can find > > the > >> > > > functional details of the mechanics of the linkages? > >> > > > > >> > > > -- > >> > > > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > >> > > > valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, > >> > > > electronic hints and repair briefs > >> > > > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > Hmm, are you sure it just hasn't got itself caught in the 'return to > >> home' > >> > > part of its playing (can you manually spin the tunrtable freely > > without > >> > any > >> > > resistance ?) > >> > > > >> > > If not, just extract the turntable, most of the Decca ones I've seen > >> from > >> > > this era are pretty straight forward and the linkages are pretty > >> straight > >> > > forward to workout. Most of the time they have just seized and can be > >> > freed > >> > > up with a liberal application of WD40. > >> > > > >> > > file://Clive. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > I thought initially that something had gone seriously wrong to bend the > >> > spindle as it does not look like an engineering job , but finding www > > pic > >> > http://hem.passagen.se/sodas/articles/rc70.jpg > >> > that is normal. > >> > Something has seriously jarred or a tinkerer been at it so that the end > >> stop > >> > for the rotational movement arm under the tonearm seemed to be on the > >> wrong > >> > side of the linkages from the main mechanism. > >> > Slackening off some of the pivot points and the base of the tonearm > > pivot > >> > I've repositioned and that is now moving freely. > >> > There is still something wrong as the motor-off mechanism is falsely > >> > engaging after motor start unless I hold back the linkage that breaks > > the > >> > switch mechanism and then it can latch into normal motor run, > > disconnected > >> > from all linkages, until delatched via switch off or by tonearm moving > > to > >> > lift point. > >> > I'll have another explore tomorrow. > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > >> > valve radio cross reference, valve radio schematics list, > >> > electronic hints and repair briefs > >> > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> I'm defeated by this mechanism. > >> One turn of the main cog wheel is the operation cycle time to complete > >> record drop , arm lift/drop etc before coming back to the toothless > > section > >> of the cog for all mechanical levers disengaged and motor-on for play. > >> Just before the toothless section the large cam pushes a set of levers to > >> switch off the motor and no obvious extra latch or anything to disengage > >> that action for each turn of the large cam, so it turns off the motor > > before > >> going into disengaged play mode every time, presumably the same action as > >> manual reject on the on/off lever. > >> > >> > > > > It would have helped if I'd seen one of these decks in operation but I > > think > > I've cracked it. > > Reject does not mean reject from play followed by motor stop , it just > > means > > reject from play. You cancel the motor by manually switching to off or > > what > > I assume is the proper trip mechanism . If the tone-arm goes in too far > > and > > the normal lift mechanism fails to operate then the trip is de-latched to > > switch off the motor - ie not normal operation. The cam position just > > prior > > to the cog teeth gap is for setting this position , just less than trip , > > not for tripping the motor off. It all seems to be running properly now, > > but > > not checked with records yet. > > Anyone familiar with the anti-skating ? mechanism, I don't want it to be > > too > > resistant to movement and break the original stylus. Cartridge and stylus > > removed during all this exploration. I'm thinking of removing the stylus > > and > > pivot from the magnetic coil and lightly gluing some bulk-standard LP > > sapphire stylus underneath on first checks with records, any better ideas > > ?. > > For the archives, I think I'll take photos of this mechanism and also take > > a > > scanner scan of the radio tuning glass. > > > > -- > > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > > electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on > > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > > > > > > > The anti-skate mechanism is a small vane like an air brake of a chime mechanism escapement of clockwork clocks or clockwork automata. One edge of this vane on a deliberately floppy pivot/axis anchored via a very light tension spring and the other edge rubs along a fine toothed ratchet in the easy sense until the end of travel at lift up point on the record and then released from the ratchet. Manually , ie excessive outwards force on the arm also trips this mechanism after "jamming" in the ratchet , but not by normal anti-skate forces. By finger touch feel on this arm , the reaction against the ratchet clicks, which would have to be provided by the stylus seem rather too strong, the clicks can be felt. I put a force gauge against the end of the arm (minus cartridge) and this against the ratchet force is about 6 to 8 grams and about 15 grams final lift up trigger force, perhaps that is not excessive but the sapphire stylus is quite long, about 2mm, so much longer than any 60s/70s LP stylus sapphire. Perhaps I should be more concerned about the final lift trigger force. There seems to be no anti-skate adjustment built-in and is all under the deck so would be suck it and see adjustment. I will place pics of this and other mechanisms with file names/URLs like http://www.diversed.fsnet.co.uk/garrard.htm http://www.diversed.fsnet.co.uk/garrard1.jpg http://www.diversed.fsnet.co.uk/garrard2.jpg etc, next weekend -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ Article: 336090 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <1150935617.420642.175890@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:17:11 GMT A friend of mine recently ordered something from Louisville, KY, to go to Cambrdige, MA. It was shipped by UPS. Here's the tracking information currently available: LOUISVILLE, KY 06/14/2006 5:13 P.M. BILLING INFORMATION RECEIVED LOUISVILLE, KY 06/14/2006 10:14 P.M. ORIGIN SCAN LOUISVILLE, KY 06/15/2006 3:22 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN EARTH CITY, MO 06/15/2006 9:50 A.M. ARRIVAL SCAN EARTH CITY, MO 06/15/2006 12:06 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN VERNON, CA 06/19/2006 12:05 P.M. ARRIVAL SCAN VERNON, CA 06/19/2006 10:14 P.M. DEPARTURE SCAN CERRITOS, CA 06/19/2006 10:46 P.M. ARRIVAL SCAN CERRITOS, CA 06/20/2006 1:31 A.M. DEPARTURE SCAN "And where she stops, nobody knows!" Article: 336091 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stein-Olav Lund Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-power supply transformer Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 13:28:00 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1150972275.043168.32190@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> CAINE wrote: > After changing all the black Nichicon coupling caps in this Akai M8, > sound greatly improved- VU meter readings while playing/recording with > the unit have increased to normal levels- sound is much clearer- right > channel is still slightly less power than left channel > > Did some checking into voltages- it appears that the (2) legs of the > power supply transformer for the left channel, which are clearly marked > 250 volts on the transformer and in the print, only have about 190 > volts > > these legs feed directly to the 6x4 rectifier tube > > the tube is good > > is this transformer bad ? The transformer heats up excessively and > gives off a smell when operating the unit- it seems to be not quite as > bad now, since changing the black coupling caps. > > this is the same monoblock that had one filter cap soldered in > backwards from the factory- all those have been replaced as well > > any help appreciated Have you tried the simplest thing, pulling the 6X4 and measuring the AC voltage then? I suspect you have too high current draw, causing the xfrmr voltage to drop to 190 and making it overheat. Stein Article: 336092 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" References: <1150972275.043168.32190@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-power supply transformer Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:29:17 -0400 And after pulling the tube and checking the voltage (AND let it run awhile to see if it overheats), if it still gets hot etc. you have shorted turns = replace or rewind. Only one secondary winding? If more than one, remove the load from ALL of them and let it run awhile. To check the voltage, pull the tube on the OTHER channel and measure the open circuit voltage and compare that to the suspect transformer. Dave "Stein-Olav Lund" wrote in message news:e7durv$fte$1@dolly.uninett.no... > > > CAINE wrote: > > After changing all the black Nichicon coupling caps in this Akai M8, > > sound greatly improved- VU meter readings while playing/recording with > > the unit have increased to normal levels- sound is much clearer- right > > channel is still slightly less power than left channel > > > > Did some checking into voltages- it appears that the (2) legs of the > > power supply transformer for the left channel, which are clearly marked > > 250 volts on the transformer and in the print, only have about 190 > > volts > > > > these legs feed directly to the 6x4 rectifier tube > > > > the tube is good > > > > is this transformer bad ? The transformer heats up excessively and > > gives off a smell when operating the unit- it seems to be not quite as > > bad now, since changing the black coupling caps. > > > > this is the same monoblock that had one filter cap soldered in > > backwards from the factory- all those have been replaced as well > > > > any help appreciated > > Have you tried the simplest thing, pulling the 6X4 and measuring the AC > voltage then? > I suspect you have too high current draw, causing the xfrmr voltage to > drop to 190 and making it overheat. > > Stein Article: 336093 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hans" References: <4498f4e1$0$32100$3a628fcd@textreader.nntp.hccnet.nl> <9bui929ivgted4n365hsggd236oq5b3a92@4ax.com> Subject: Re: crosley 5-38 Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 14:34:15 +0200 Message-ID: <449a8e3a$0$32094$3a628fcd@textreader.nntp.hccnet.nl> Hello Alan, I thank you for your answer and advice. I have found the discussion and some diagrams. Many thanks, Hans "Alan Douglas" schreef in bericht news:9bui929ivgted4n365hsggd236oq5b3a92@4ax.com... > Hi, > Hans wrote: > >>I look for an schematic of an power supply, special >>for the Crosley 5-38 battery valve (01A) radio, >>That gives A+, C-, +22.5 volt DC, A- C+, +90volt DC. >> >>This on mains 220 volt AC or 120 volt AC. > > There was a brief discussion on the Antique Radio Forum a few weeks > ago, with some suggestions of sources for a supply like this. > > http://antiqueradios.com/forums/ > > I don't remember which forum it was on, but you could either search > there are post a request of your own. > > Many of these supplies use a 120/240 transformer with the second > primary used as a secondary, so they would not be suitable for 230V > mains. > > The 22.5V is not at all critical: anything up to 45V will work > equally well. And if your B+ is limited to 90V you don't really need C > bias at all. C bias mainly reduces the B+ current drain, which is a > problem with dry batteries but not a problem with an AC supply. A > 1.5V cell would work however if you want to use it. > > Alan Article: 336094 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: newbie question e-caps From: Paul References: <1150940650.248417.66280@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 12:58:29 GMT "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in news:1150940650.248417.66280@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > > Paul wrote: >> I'm re-capping a stromberg carlson 400h radio, I've replaced the >> paper capacitors and are going to replace the electrolytic capacitors. >> They are in a can on the top side of the radios chassis, my question >> concerns the polarity which side do the negative ends of the caps >> go to - ground? Or other way round? >> I have the schematic but it's not clearly marked and I don't see any >> marking on the can its self. >> >> Any help with this would be appreciated! >> >> Thanks >> >> Paul > In this case, yes. Negative goes to chassis ground.That isn't true in > every case and sometimes negative goes to a B- lead. The little "earth" > or "ground" symbol is there at the 15/15MFD caps that surround the 1800 > ohm field coil. > Thank You very much! All you guys are great, this is the second question I have posted and received my answer. I'll post a picture when I'm done in the other group. Thanks again Paul Article: 336095 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: POWER SUPPLY FOR 6 VOLT RADIOS Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 08:14:49 -0500 Message-ID: <26433-449A97C9-178@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <4spmg.183$ii.68@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> I AM AS ACTIVE AS THE STROKE ALLOWS ME TO BE. I STILL HAVE THE WEBSITE MINUS A FEW OF THE MORE DIFFICULT THINGS TO MAKE. THAT IS WHY I ELECTED TO PRESENT THE POWER SUPPLY FOR THE BENEFIT OF THOSE WHO COULD USE IT. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 336096 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: POWER SUPPLY FOR 6 VOLT RADIOS Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 10:26:34 -0500 Message-ID: <10363-449AB6AA-58@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <1150988800.312473.274400@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> I HAVE MADE OVER 50 OF THESE PWR SUPPLIES OVER THE PAST 10 OR SO YEARS. IN NO CASE HAVE THERE EVER BEEN A PROBLEM SUCH AS YOU STATED. PLEASE NOTE THAT THE CURRENT TAKEN FROM THE TRANSFORMER IS AT MOST HALF THE RATED CURRENT AND AS SUCH IS WITHIN THE LIMITATIONS ONE 110 VOLT PRIMARY. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 336097 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <17207-44994D67-34@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: this makes NO sense to me! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 16:13:25 GMT There are worse news groups in my opinion. PP "Ken G." wrote in message news:17207-44994D67-34@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net... > Phil Its hopeless . This newsgroup has had that back alley air for a > long time now with some people who dont care about anything . Most of > the people who have common courtesy and manners have left . > Nothing you or i say will ever help , in fact someone will probably mock > this post to .. sad i know .I do find this NG entertaining like a comedy > show . > Some of it is still ok and helpfull , not all is lost :-) Best go to > another forum of some sort for all radio chat and take this one for what > it has become . > Article: 336098 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 15:28:10 -0500 Message-ID: <10363-449AFD5A-63@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> And I did another search for Bogalusa Gramophones.I can't find anything about Bogalusa Phonographs,or Bogalusa Gramophones made by Bogalusa Furniture MFG Co.Bogalusa,Louisiana. At first I thought it was made in the 1940's or 1950's,but after looking it over again,I am beginning to think it might have been made in the 1930's because of the style of the cabinet and the two little pull handles on the two front doors.I think the front doors are suppose to be open for the sound to get out better.On the spring wind motor it says,Patents Pending United Air Cleaner Co Chicago,Ill 6229 The cabinet measures 20 5/8'' by 22'' by 39'' tall.The hinged top measures 21 1/4'' by 22 3/8'' Any Phonograph/Gramophone experts out there who can provide more information? cuhulin Article: 336099 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1150935610.141943.17480@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 21:37:55 GMT I've NEVER had a problem with USPS. I just sent a 30 pound package to upstate NY via Priority Mail and it got there safe and sound in 2 days. NO PROBLEMS. But I packed it like I was sending grandma's crystal, the key to undamaged shipping is over packing. -- Ron -- Radio Collection Web Page, http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com WANTED! http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html Article: 336100 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything References: <1150935610.141943.17480@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1151014402.854686.134790@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:50:35 -0400 pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > Here's an update. UPS has still not delivered the boxes to the correct > addresses. I'm into it another 6 phone calls with them. Furthermore, > I got a bill in the mail today stating that they had charged my credit > card another $13.42 for these shipments. It looks like they are trying > to get me to pay the extra shipping for their mistake. Of all the > nerve. > Dave > I'd call the credit card co. and refuse to pay the bill for ANY of the lost shipment, until the packages get to where they belong or you have an insurance claim check in your hand. Article: 336101 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 17:46:00 -0500 Message-ID: <10362-449B1DA8-274@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151012924.022356.86130@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Oviously,(to me at least) Bogalusa Furniture MFG.Co Bogalusa,Louisina.Bogalusa Better Brand.(that is what it says on a little metal plate inside the cabinet) built only the wooden cabinet (among whatever other kinds of furniture they built,house furniture,as it were) and bought the other seperate parts and installed the parts into the cabinet.Did RCA and other phonograph/gramophone companies build the furniture (cabinet/furniture) for the Phonographs/Gramophones they built and sold?,I dont think so.When I got out of the Army,I worked at a factory right here in Jackson that built tv set cabinets.Before they started building tv set cabinets,they built baby room furniture.If you have ever heard of Storkline,that was them.The old factory closed down years ago. cuhulin Article: 336102 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:07:16 -0500 Message-ID: <10362-449B22A4-277@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151012924.022356.86130@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Stamped onto the exterior of the spring motor,it says,Patents Pending United Air Cleaner Chicago,Ill 6229 On the part which flips up and down and that part holds the needle,it says,TOMAN.That unit connects to a large cast iron (or whatever cast metal it is) part which connects to a four sided part made of wood.That wooden part is larger on one side than the other side.I suppose that assembly/unit is called the speaker? [Altho,in Louisiana,you never know] Brother,you got that right.I live forty five miles East of those Louisiana,Cajuns and I never know myself. I think it is neat though than an old furniture company offered phonographs/gramophones ''furniture'' along with their line on furniture products.I dont see anything so strange about that at all.But then,here in Mississippi,you never know. cuhulin Article: 336103 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs References: <10363-449AFD5A-63@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> <1151009638.439153.44840@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 19:47:18 -0400 Steven wrote: > cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > >>And I did another search for Bogalusa Gramophones.I can't find anything >>about Bogalusa Phonographs,or Bogalusa Gramophones made by Bogalusa >>Furniture MFG Co.Bogalusa,Louisiana. >> >>At first I thought it was made in the 1940's or 1950's,but after looking >>it over again,I am beginning to think it might have been made in the >>1930's because of the style of the cabinet and the two little pull >>handles on the two front doors.I think the front doors are suppose to be >>open for the sound to get out better.On the spring wind motor it >>says,Patents Pending United Air Cleaner Co Chicago,Ill 6229 >> >>The cabinet measures 20 5/8'' by 22'' by 39'' tall.The hinged top >>measures 21 1/4'' by 22 3/8'' >>Any Phonograph/Gramophone experts out there who can provide more >>information? >>cuhulin > > > I'm eating raisins. > Raisins make me fart Article: 336104 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 19:04:52 -0500 Message-ID: <22632-449B3024-267@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: Phone your state attorney general about that situation.That might get some help for you. cuhulin Article: 336105 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Vacuum Tubes/Electron Tubes Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 19:37:44 -0500 Message-ID: <22632-449B37D8-272@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> www.vacuumtube.com/mfg.htm Looks there are some companies still making them. cuhulin Article: 336106 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <1150935610.141943.17480@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1151014402.854686.134790@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything Message-ID: Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 18:45:41 -0700 good luck with UPS. They could care less, I know I worked for them and I can tell you that the management couldn't give a darn about staff or anything else. The worst part is that they are self insured (or used to be) so good luck with any insurance claims!!! ... Just my opinion..... bob in phx. "Ken Scharf" wrote in message news:Q8Fmg.98410$QU3.54021@bignews8.bellsouth.net... > pgonshor@aol.com wrote: >> Here's an update. UPS has still not delivered the boxes to the correct >> addresses. I'm into it another 6 phone calls with them. Furthermore, >> I got a bill in the mail today stating that they had charged my credit >> card another $13.42 for these shipments. It looks like they are trying >> to get me to pay the extra shipping for their mistake. Of all the >> nerve. >> Dave >> > I'd call the credit card co. and refuse to pay the bill for ANY of the > lost shipment, until the packages get to where they belong or you > have an insurance claim check in your hand. Article: 336107 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1151030947.997234.214550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 22:53:30 -0500 Message-ID: <449b586a$0$9894$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Good idea, quality usually beats quantity. Well, you could still get, if not "taken", a non-original set at a swap but since the piece is in your hands, if you know what you're looking for it shouldn't get screwed. Otherwise you'd probably have to watch eBay to find a listing from somebody who isn't a collector. It does happen, and it's usually obvious from the style and tone of the listing . Then you know you'd likely be getting an original set. Are you looking for any specific one of the four models or are you willing to take the first good one in that cabinet style that comes along? You could have a long wait for a 9 or 12 tube set. "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1151030947.997234.214550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > I'm cleaning up the shack and selling a surplus of radios from small to > large. The goal? I was thinking of funding one radio project, a > Zenith Walton set. The question is, are there any genuine deals around > anymore, or is everyone doing scam jobs on Ebay with phoney pictures? > I realize they're not cheap, and in demand, so I'll probably pay more > for this set than any in my collection. > > Anyone have advice on where not to get taken? Seems to me radio swaps > are the best for such an expensive set. At least you get to see what > you buy. Thanks for reading, GB. > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 336108 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Silly question about solder and soldering Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:40:42 -0500 Message-ID: <22633-449B70CA-55@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <1150760649.185295.278630@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> I have a little old metal Ungar box which contains an Ungar soldering iron and some spare Ungar soldering tips.Yep,you guessed it,I bought the Ungar soldering kit at a Goodwill store years ago.I also own another Goodwill special,a Dillon MK III cutting/welding torch.Here is a little tip,when you get through soldering something,always squeez the end of the solder on the spool tightly with some pliers so the flux inside wont leak out. cuhulin Article: 336109 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1150935617.420642.175890@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 05:07:46 GMT I avoid them like the plague. They've wrecked too much and lost too much for me to put up with them. Plus they cost too much. They've been like this since their last strike. I hear horror stories from a couple I know. They screw with things to get back at management. The white collars have to field claims and aggravated customers. Like they care either... I had a large radio go missing a few years ago. They said they handed it to someone at my place but neither of us got it. And don't get me started on breakage. FedEx is cheaper. So is USPS usually. And they don't break as much. Plus they will deliver on Saturdays. It's pretty bad when government drones beat someone at their job but that's Brown for you. Ray wrote in message news:1150935617.420642.175890@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com... > Last week, I shipped 4 packages via UPS. All four were delivered to > the wrong addresses. After 20+ phone calls last week, I was assured > that it would be taken care of. This week (today) I find that they > have not fixed the problem Calls to the 800 number resulted in calls > to me from a local UPS agent. The local UPS agent said they can do > nothing except call the 800 number. I am extremely frustrated, and > will never ship with UPS again. I have had at least 20 phones call > with UPS agents across the country. It appears that if it doesn't go > right the first time, forget it. You are hosed. By the way, I was > told by UPS that an inexperienced driver made the screw up of placing > the wrong labels on the packages. I've got 3 ebay buyers extremely > angry, and a UPS shipping bill of $130 to pay. I leave it to you to > decide what carrier you want to use. > Dave > Article: 336110 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:02:07 -0600 Message-ID: <21098-449B75CF-407@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: <1150935610.141943.17480@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> I cant figure out why some of you long timers here still use ups after all the horror stories placed on the internet over the years . Stupid is all i can come up with . Harsh yes .. stupid .. yes . Article: 336111 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:09:45 -0600 Message-ID: <21099-449B7799-90@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: <1150938198.617777.85660@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Eddie i cant believe wrote ``they all suck at times. no one is better than the others. `` Bull poop . ups has complaints more than any other . Article: 336112 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1150937331.610183.111590@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: RADIO DX QUESTION... Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 05:15:24 GMT That's easy. The SC is a 6-tube set with an RF amp stage. The Zenith doesn't have an RF amp on the AM band so it's pretty much like a 5-tube set, a deal less sensitive. The Zenith may also need a touch-up as I would expect (but not guarantee) that it should get _something_ in your example. The inductive tuning on the Zenith is only on FM, IIRC. Ray wrote in message news:1150937331.610183.111590@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Hello, > > Why is my Stromberg Carlson model #1101 so much more sensitive than my > Zenith G723? > > Both are restored...(new caps ect..) both play great. But the Stromberg > Carlson picks up many more distant stations. Why?? Is it an alignment > issue? Someone told me that the Zeniith G723 (AM FM) uses an "Inductive > tuning system" I'm confused. > > I tested both with a 50,0000 watt station 50 miles from here. Due to > its directional signal pattern its not the strongest in my area. The > Stromberg grabs it, but on the the Zenith it doesn't even registar > without using a Select a Tenna, (thats a portable anntenna thats placed > near your radio...its like having an outside arial.) > > > Any advice is greatly appreciated! > > Thanks...Barry F. > Article: 336113 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:15:25 -0600 Message-ID: <21098-449B78ED-409@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151038450.717048.60930@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> A fair deal would be like any other large AM-SW tombstone radio . 100$ to 300$ thats it . anything more for a radio like that is a descision you have to make sence out of . Article: 336114 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Vacuum Tubes/Electron Tubes Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:18:15 -0600 Message-ID: <21098-449B7997-410@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: <22632-449B37D8-272@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Yes steven . Article: 336115 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1150972275.043168.32190@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1151022750.252466.58300@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-power supply transformer Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 05:36:53 GMT Several possibilities. Pull the rectifier and measure voltage from the transformer. Still low? Wrong or bad transformer. Also check for low voltage on other windings. Too much draw on them can overload whole transformer. If one of the filament supplies is DC check for shorted diode(s) and bad cap(s) there too. If there's a hum adjust pot check it for shorts. If it still gets hot try disconnecting other windings. Recheck voltages. If it gets hot with NO draws - B+, filaments, etc. - it is bad itself. If that passes muster you could have (s) very leaky filter cap(s) pulling excessive current. The cap may or may not get hot itself. Other things to check on import gear: If multi-voltage, check to make sure proper tap is used or jumper plug is in proper position. Ray "CAINE" wrote in message news:1151022750.252466.58300@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > CAINE wrote: >> After changing all the black Nichicon coupling caps in this Akai M8, >> sound greatly improved- VU meter readings while playing/recording with >> the unit have increased to normal levels- sound is much clearer- right >> channel is still slightly less power than left channel >> >> Did some checking into voltages- it appears that the (2) legs of the >> power supply transformer for the left channel, which are clearly marked >> 250 volts on the transformer and in the print, only have about 190 >> volts >> >> these legs feed directly to the 6x4 rectifier tube >> >> the tube is good >> >> is this transformer bad ? The transformer heats up excessively and >> gives off a smell when operating the unit- it seems to be not quite as >> bad now, since changing the black coupling caps. >> >> this is the same monoblock that had one filter cap soldered in >> backwards from the factory- all those have been replaced as well >> >> any help appreciated > > correction to previous OP- this is NOT the monoblock that had the > reversed capacitor- that cap has been replaced in correct polority > position- and that monoblock was the left side, it is now the "good" > monoblock with a good transformer > > the hot transformer with decreased voltage, is right channel > > thanks all for replies > Article: 336116 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: FAQ for rec.antiques.radio+phono Part 1 (Charter, Group Life, Date: Thu, 22 Jun 2006 23:37:43 -0600 Message-ID: <21098-449B7E27-412@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: <5s-dnRSAdPBWRgTZnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@giganews.com> Phil .. give up and move on . Its hopeless . Article: 336117 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything Message-ID: References: <1150935617.420642.175890@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 06:17:17 -0400 On 21 Jun 2006 17:20:17 -0700, pgonshor@aol.com wrote: >Last week, I shipped 4 packages via UPS. All four were delivered to >the wrong addresses. After 20+ phone calls last week, I was assured >that it would be taken care of. This week (today) I find that they >have not fixed the problem Calls to the 800 number resulted in calls >to me from a local UPS agent. The local UPS agent said they can do >nothing except call the 800 number. I am extremely frustrated, and >will never ship with UPS again. I have had at least 20 phones call >with UPS agents across the country. It appears that if it doesn't go >right the first time, forget it. You are hosed. By the way, I was >told by UPS that an inexperienced driver made the screw up of placing >the wrong labels on the packages. I've got 3 ebay buyers extremely >angry, and a UPS shipping bill of $130 to pay. I leave it to you to >decide what carrier you want to use. >Dave Another reason to have a Fedex account! __________________________________________________________ KE4ODD Service to my country? Me too and I've got my DD214 and 5 point veteran preference to prove it. *Used with express written permission of its creator. Article: 336118 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <10363-449AFD5A-63@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:56:47 GMT I can tell you this -- long after electric phonographs became popular in living rooms, wind-up acoustics were still being made as portables. The simple reason is that they didn't require batteries or AC power. Just when they stopped making them I don't know, but didn't Lionel or somebody make a wind-up kiddy phonograph into the 50's? Not being an expert on this, but wondering myself, how did these players fare with the newer records, using heavier tonearms and steel needles? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:10363-449AFD5A-63@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net... > And I did another search for Bogalusa Gramophones.I can't find anything > about Bogalusa Phonographs,or Bogalusa Gramophones made by Bogalusa > Furniture MFG Co.Bogalusa,Louisiana. > > At first I thought it was made in the 1940's or 1950's,but after looking > it over again,I am beginning to think it might have been made in the > 1930's because of the style of the cabinet and the two little pull > handles on the two front doors.I think the front doors are suppose to be > open for the sound to get out better.On the spring wind motor it > says,Patents Pending United Air Cleaner Co Chicago,Ill 6229 > > The cabinet measures 20 5/8'' by 22'' by 39'' tall.The hinged top > measures 21 1/4'' by 22 3/8'' > Any Phonograph/Gramophone experts out there who can provide more > information? > cuhulin > Article: 336119 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:36:51 -0500 Message-ID: <10362-449C18A3-363@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151077103.192087.257730@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> One of my sisters owns some Kimball furniture,bought brand new back in the 1950's and the furniture is still just as good as new.(you know how women are,they take good care of things) Kimball furniture company,even today,is involved in electronics products.Boy Howdy,that sure is strange,isn't it? :{) Rural electrification and swamplands of the South? (South is always best) Many parts of Alaska is swamplands,it is called,Tundra.There are swamplands (swamps,marshes,bogs and fens and tundra) all over America,I think the nearest swamp to me is about 100 miles or more from me. (have you visited a nice friendly swamp lately?) www.msarts.org (Site Photo Gallery,Bonita Lakes,if you have a swamp,make something nice out of it) The home town I used to live in many,many years ago,that house was built by my grandather and his brother in the early 1900's.That big old house was the first to have electricity in my little old home town,it had indoor plumbing too.Some people might find it interesting to get out once in a while and travel around America. cuhulin Article: 336120 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 12:06:11 -0500 Message-ID: <10363-449C1F83-93@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <0KudnbKLVK4eVAbZnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@comcast.com> I have never used FedEx before.I think I will next time for some things.I have had some problems with U.S.Post Office snail mail delivery to me before.Less than two weeks ago I snail mailed six different flavors of Maybelline cool effects/eye shadow liner pencils to a lady friend in England.(because she said the Walgreens stores in area dont sell the kind she likes anymore) I sent them via U.S.Post Office snail mail.I got an email from her this morning.She said they showed up there yesterday. cuhulin Article: 336121 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 13:07:01 -0500 Message-ID: <26433-449C2DC5-344@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151077103.192087.257730@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Gators in Pennsylvania? (Penns Woods) I was listening to the JT and Dave radio talk show a few minutes ago on 93.7 FM. www.supertalkms.com They said a guy in Pennsylvania stepped out to get his misthrown newspaper which had landed between two cars.He saw an Alligator sitting right there.He said it was enough to get my attention! Alligators mostly live in swamps. cuhulin Article: 336122 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <449C37D5.EB9CACA4@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FAQ for rec.antiques.radio+phono Part 1 (Charter, Group Life, B... References: <5s-dnRSAdPBWRgTZnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@giganews.com> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:49:57 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote: > > Steven wrote: > > Ken G. wrote: > > > Phil .. give up and move on . Its hopeless . > > > > Only the charter. Now go help the guy with the bad choke if you would. > > Nobody said HI to him and he has a relative easy question (for you and > > John Goller).. > > > > Keep punching! > > trolls hate rules. And rules hate trolls! ;-) -- My sig file can beat up your sig file! Article: 336123 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Akai M8 problem-power supply transformer Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 11:41:33 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1150972275.043168.32190@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1151022750.252466.58300@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1151061885.284767.299920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1151062478.379380.320440@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 23 Jun 2006 04:34:38 -0700, "Giuseppi Nudo the Scranton Organ Grinder sans monkey" using his spam address scribbled in crayon: >correction- there are 3 pairs of low voltage leads from the >transformer- 6 legs in all- they go to the other 3 tubes in the >circuit- those are working ok What a frigging idiot. The problem's pretty obvious, but no one should tell this fraudster what it is. Hey Giuseppi the Organ Grinder Nudo! When are you going to try to flog that 500C again? Article: 336124 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:03:08 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1151030947.997234.214550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In "Phil Nelson" writes: >You have probably read many discussions along these lines, but . . . why do >you want to pay a heavy "showbiz premium" for a radio that can be matched or >outclassed by others from the same era for a lower price? It's art, man. Walton's aren't my speed, but I can certainly see the appeal of them. Any radio that's ever been discussed on this group can be outclassed handily by modern technology. Circuit design and active devices have advanced quite a bit in the intervening decades. That's technology's job. So why buy an old radio at all? It's living, breathing, electron eating art, that's why. It's hard to put a price on bottled beauty. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 336125 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <0KudnbKLVK4eVAbZnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@comcast.com> <10363-449C1F83-93@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:18:45 GMT On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:22:58 GMT, Rick Yerke wrote: >>Less than two weeks ago I snail mailed six different >> flavors of Maybelline cool effects/eye shadow liner pencils to a lady >> friend in England.(because she said the Walgreens stores in area dont >> I sent them via U.S.Post Office snail >> She said they showed up there yesterday. > > How can you blame the USPS for the time it may take for the Great Britian > Postal Service to deliver ? You are confusing blame of the USPS with joint praise for it and for the BPO. Article: 336126 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:13:30 -0500 Message-ID: <26433-449C3D5A-354@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: Usually takes about one week for things I snail mail to her to show up.I dont blame the USPS for that. cuhulin Article: 336127 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 14:21:30 -0500 Message-ID: <26433-449C3F3A-355@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151086727.263711.103800@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> The city of Jackson where I live gets its water from the Ross Barnette Reservoir in Northeast Jackson.Every once in a while some people see an Alligator over there.Those Tutels in New York (www.orangecountychoppers.com) went to Florida and they visited an Alligator park in Florida. cuhulin Article: 336128 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Carter, k8vt" Subject: Find of the week... Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:46:43 GMT I normally don't do very many garage sales, but there were a couple in the neighborhood and I had a few minutes to use up before I had to be where I had to be. Nothing too interesting radio wise on display, so I asked the gent if he had any old tube radios. He said yes, he thought it was a Crosley or a Stromberg Carlson. Well, he dragged it up from the basement and it turned out to be a Zenith 5S319 "racetrack dial" table radio, all the original knobs, no loose veneer, very clean shape, maybe an 8.5 or 9 out of 10. For a very low two digit figure, it followed me home. Ya never know until ya ask! [thanks for the consultation Mark] Article: 336129 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: FA:unreal Ozarka on ebay Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 15:58:43 -0400 Message-ID: <129ohvoaisg5796@corp.supernews.com> References: <1150977375.739052.212030@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1150977375.739052.212030@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > 5000 geeeter??? you gotta be joking. > Yes, it's gone on BuyItNow for that price. Simon Wade would say it was a superb deal, no doubt. John H. Article: 336130 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1151038450.717048.60930@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <21098-449B78ED-409@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> In <21098-449B78ED-409@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) writes: >A fair deal would be like any other large AM-SW tombstone radio . 100$ >to 300$ thats it . anything more for a radio like that is a descision >you have to make sence out of . Pot... kettle... The majority of the population would think yer nutz for spending $10 on an obsolete, heavy, vacuum tube AM radio. Sometimes, you just have to listen to your emotions. If you always run the computation "Will I experience 1.1(X) units of joy if I spend (X)?" you stop being human. There's no more need to make sense out of such a purchase than there is need to justify enjoying music. If the OP can swing it without starving or otherwise damaging himself or family, go for it. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 336131 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Uncle Peter" References: <1151030947.997234.214550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:04:21 -0400 "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:KuSdnSQdO78g5QbZnZ2dnUVZ_sOdnZ2d@giganews.com... >> Zenith Walton set. > > You have probably read many discussions along these lines, but . . . why > do you want to pay a heavy "showbiz premium" for a radio that can be > matched or outclassed by others from the same era for a lower price? Phil What did you pay for the SX-88? Nothing better for the same, or a lower price? Even a R390? Pete Article: 336132 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1151030947.997234.214550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:15:45 GMT I know someone who picked up a nice 7 tube Walton about a year ago for under $400 at an auction. It does happen. -- Mike Schultz "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1151030947.997234.214550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > I'm cleaning up the shack and selling a surplus of radios from small to > large. The goal? I was thinking of funding one radio project, a > Zenith Walton set. The question is, are there any genuine deals around > anymore, or is everyone doing scam jobs on Ebay with phoney pictures? > I realize they're not cheap, and in demand, so I'll probably pay more > for this set than any in my collection. > > Anyone have advice on where not to get taken? Seems to me radio swaps > are the best for such an expensive set. At least you get to see what > you buy. Thanks for reading, GB. > Article: 336133 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:00:51 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1151030947.997234.214550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In "Phil Nelson" writes: >Anybody who's willing to ignore fads and swim against the current can still >get some fantastic radios at comparatively low prices. Yabbut... when many people desire the same thing, is that simple herd mentality, or does the object possess an intrinsic quality that puts it head and shoulders above others in its class? We all like to think our motives "pure", but I imagine it's mostly a combination of the two. OTOH, I'll never forget my astonishment over discovering how many folks besides me like those weird-ass breadboards. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 336134 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Zenith RF Choke Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 17:12:31 -0400 "Alice Lamont" wrote in message news:a_GdneC61t1QhgfZnZ2dnUVZ_sKdnZ2d@comcast.com... >I have a 12s265 with a bad rf choke (mouse chewed) and need to know the uh >values on the large and small coils to replace it. Anyone know what the >two different values are? Thanks, Ray I measured a 12S232 a few years ago, and from memory I think the values were 2500 uH and 500 uH respectively. If I can find a chassis I will measure them again to be sure. I couldn't find any appreciable coupling between the coils sections on the form, so discrete RF chokes should work. Pete I'll repost if I find a test chassis to verify with. Article: 336135 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1151030947.997234.214550@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <449b586a$0$9894$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1151056461.269710.158510@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 16:41:05 -0500 Message-ID: <449c5290$0$9860$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1151056461.269710.158510@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... > Right now I'd take any type that comes along, however with the time and > research involved I'll probably scew it down to a certain kind. Well, as you're probably aware there are four models that used that cabinet. The 7J232 is a dual-power (110VAC or 6VDC) set with no eye tube or motorized tuning, and uses the slighly oddball low-current glass octals of the 6S7 etc. series. RF performance will be all right, but the tubes run on low plate voltage and so will give up something in performance to the full-AC sets, especially in terms of audio. It uses a class B audio amp (1J6). The 7S232 is an AC set with an eye tube but no RF stage and single-ended audio. You get better RF performance from the 9S232 which has an RF stage and 6L7 mixer. The 12S232 is, of course, the Holy Grail of this series and the one most likely to result in you getting taken. It uses an impossible-to-replace 8" speaker unique to the set, sturdy enough to handle the PP 6V6 audio and two additional audio tubes (that's all it does beyond the capabilities of the 9S232.) It should go without saying that the more tubes, the rarer the set and the higher the price (the 7J232 is least valuable) but realistically, if you're in the market for one of these you're buying a cabinet, not a radio. And there's nothing wrong with that, if that's your pleasure. I know it's occasionally popular to bash these sets for their price:perceived value ratio as radios but the fact of the matter is that there are enough people out there who perceive the value to be high enough to sustain the prices where they are. So it is what it is. I'm certainly not going to judge anybody for liking something enough to pay for it, even if I don't agree with the market value. If I don't value something enough to pay the market price I just won't buy one, and I'm okay with that. Happy shopping paul -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 336136 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1151086727.263711.103800@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <26433-449C3F3A-355@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:39:29 GMT We start with a question about identifying a wind-up gramophone, and end up talking about alligator sightings in Pennsylvania and New York -- and they complain if I'M off topic! We certainly have our share of swamplands/wetlands in South Florida; they call it the Everglades. Personally I consider it a jungle. Then there's downtown Sarasota . . .did you know alligators live in the lake/fountain in front of the courthouse in Venice? If the law don't getcha, the gators will . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:26433-449C3F3A-355@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... > The city of Jackson where I live gets its water from the Ross Barnette > Reservoir in Northeast Jackson.Every once in a while some people see an > Alligator over there.Those Tutels in New York > (www.orangecountychoppers.com) went to Florida and they visited an > Alligator park in Florida. > cuhulin > Article: 336137 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Help needed with Stewart Warner radio Message-ID: Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:49:20 GMT Question: you get an RF signal from the generator to the converter. What frequency? Is it within the dial range, or 455 or some such? If the oscillator is dead you'll get a 455 signal but no stations. If you touch a tracer probe to the IF plate (which one?) you get stations, are they coming through the radio or the tracer? Depending, it may or may not mean the LO is running. I almost wonder if there's some sort of open-grid-cutoff. Hard to tell from 1,000 miles away. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:isio9299vudlj2ptnsfa36beb3bsf7gg95@4ax.com... > Just when I think I'm getting a handle on figuring out what's wrong > with some of these radios, I get stuck on 2 in a row. This one (model > R1802-A) worked after I recapped it, then it would only work for a few > seconds after turning in on when it was already warmed up. Now it > doesn't work at all. > > All the tubes light up. I can send an audio signal from the grid of > the detector to the speaker. I can send an RF signal from the 1st. > detector to the speaker. I've looked over the antenna wiring > oscillator wiring and can find nothing wrong with it. I have a long > wire connected to the antenna lead. > > I've replaced all the elect. and paper caps and now all the resistors > (which were still within range) except for # 10, 27, 28, an 36. > > I've taken all the voltages measurements and the only one out of whack > is the plate of the 2nd Det. AF. Instead of 100v it's 200v. I don't > have enough experience to guess why the voltage is high there. (I've > subbed all the tubes with no effect). > > If I connect my RF signal tracer to the plate of the IF tube, I can > get stations to come in, but nowhere else in the radio. No RF or AF > signal from the antenna. > > There is a difference in the schematic at the plate. The cap #2 (260 > uuf) is connected to ground instead of to the cathode. I've marked it > as such in the schematic below. > > http://www.renovatedradios.com/images/Misc/Stewart-Warner.jpg > > > Any suggestions? > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Article: 336138 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Message-ID: References: <1151086727.263711.103800@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <26433-449C3F3A-355@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 23:17:58 GMT On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:39:29 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >We start with a question about identifying a wind-up gramophone, and end up >talking about alligator sightings in Pennsylvania and New York -- and they >complain if I'M off topic! > >We certainly have our share of swamplands/wetlands in South Florida; they >call it the Everglades. Personally I consider it a jungle. Then there's >downtown Sarasota . . .did you know alligators live in the lake/fountain in >front of the courthouse in Venice? If the law don't getcha, the gators will >. . . Heck, I can see an alligator by looking out my window at the retention pond about 15 feet away from my house. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 336139 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 18:49:07 -0500 Message-ID: <12575-449C7DF3-546@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: How would it concern the value of wind up phonographs made by RCA versus the value of wind up phonographs made by Bogalusa Furniture MFG.Co? Certainly RCA made many,many more wind up phonographs which means there are many more RCA wind up phonographs around.Even so,I wouldn't doubt if a RCA wind up phonograph in similar physical and cosmetic condition as mine is worth more than mine.Even if mine is the only one still existing.Oh well,I am going to keep my old Bogalusa wind up Phonograph. cuhulin Article: 336140 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <449C8581.5F0134CC@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs References: <1151086727.263711.103800@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <26433-449C3F3A-355@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:22:49 GMT Brian McAllister wrote: > > Heck, I can see an alligator by looking out my window at the retention > pond about 15 feet away from my house. I had a marsh about 20 feet east from my workshop when I lived in Lake county. The damn things made so much noise during mating season that you couldn't hear what you were working on. When the water levels were down they were running through our yard looking for wet places to nest. :( -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336141 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: FAQ for rec.antiques.radio+phono Part 1 (Charter, Group Life, B... Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 00:45:47 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <5s-dnRSAdPBWRgTZnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@giganews.com> <21098-449B7E27-412@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> <1151043839.674791.8120@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <1151084892.801571.167480@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <449C37D5.EB9CACA4@earthlink.net> <1151108720.978422.45880@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> In <1151108720.978422.45880@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Steven" writes: >Never mind that Usenet has nothing to do with rules, and never has. Of course it does. Society has rules, and if one wishes to interact with others, it's best to follow them or risk being shunned by those who's company you seek. Usenet isn't some magical cyberspace; it's human beings engaged in conversation. Just like in any group discussion, the "rules" are pretty simple: be polite, keep to the subject at hand, and try really hard to only join in with relevant information. Should you speak out on your own, let it die if it appears no one else is interested. >You want to be Luddites with dual core processors or whatever, fine. That brings a very odd image to mind. Steven, you say the strangest things sometimes. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 336142 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:48:14 -0600 Message-ID: <21764-449C99DE-158@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: I know someone who picked up a nice 7 tube Walton about a year ago for under $400 at an auction. It does happen. -- Mike Schultz A friend here got a 7J here at a local auction . Good original finish .. 15$ along with a cube .. 15$ and a nice Zenith console 60$ . Article: 336143 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FA:unreal Ozarka on ebay From: noone@telus.com References: <1151109341.446074.97290@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 02:08:41 GMT On 23-Jun-2006, "Steven" wrote: Who's Simon Wade? UK "collector/trader" in old rdios/crystal sets, etc. Trades occasionally on Ebay as: international.vintage.wireless.exchange Article: 336144 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: FAQ for rec.antiques.radio+phono Part 1 (Charter, Group Life,B... Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:04:36 -0600 Message-ID: <21762-449C9DB4-527@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: <449C3805.4A4A3B63@earthlink.net> Dammit, Ken, why don't you either shut up .... Because the truth is important . or move on? ...... I have mostly If this news group is so damn bad,.... Do you suppose thats why most of the radio collectors left here ? why do you even bother to read it,..... Entertainment and to help those who listen . let alone reply? ... Habit i guess . Article: 336145 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Vacuum Tubes/Electron Tubes Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:08:30 -0600 Message-ID: <21762-449C9E9E-529@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151045240.996019.111030@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Steve .i honestly dont know the answer to the RF choke question . I forgot about Glenn . Article: 336146 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: FA:unreal Ozarka on ebay Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:12:02 -0600 Message-ID: <21762-449C9F72-531@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151109341.446074.97290@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Thats a very neet radio both inside & out . It makes me think what other nice original radios will gain those values in years ahead . Article: 336147 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Find of the week... Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:21:49 -0600 Message-ID: <21764-449CA1BD-161@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: Excellent ! I like that radio . Around here i seldome see tube radios at garage sales so i ask sometimes . In a trailer park of all places i asked about antique radios . I was pretty lucky the guy was willing to keep looking around in closets while trying to run his sale ! He came up with a Zenith 5S126 cube missing its knobs and Z pointer . I offered 50$ and still have it . Another situation was at the second day of a sale the question brought up a Philco cathedral . Some people dont think anyone wants radios that dont work ... Ask ! Article: 336148 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: I promised a Picture From: Paul Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 02:33:15 GMT I have finished the Stromberg Carlson 400H and have posted a picture in the other newsgroup, thanks again for the help answering my questions. I think it turned out well, now I'm in search of a new project Paul Article: 336149 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Help needed with Stewart Warner radio Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 02:56:54 GMT "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:sm7p929hjh632o563aq5lanrce91b9pjop@4ax.com... > On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:49:20 GMT, "Gary Tayman" > wrote: > If you touch a >>tracer probe to the IF plate (which one?) you get stations, are they >>coming >>through the radio or the tracer? > Through the tracer, not the speaker. I marked where the signal comes > through on the schematic shown on my original post. > So let me clarify this -- at the plate where you marked "signal", you're getting stations? Stations, such as local radio stations, or just the 465 generator? If you're getting radio stations at the IF plate, it means the LO is running and you're getting signal through the antenna, all the coils, and the first IF. If this is the case, I think we're getting really close. That detector with the 200v plate, what are the other voltages like? I mean the cathode, grid, and both anodes? You just might be cutoff-biased such that neither detector works, and even if you can get the first audio to amplify, you may not have a detected signal to work with. The only other thing that could possibly stop the signal here is if the output IF is bad, which doesn't seem likely. I'd be curious in knowing what you get if you removed the detector/first audio tube and placed your RF tracer probe on the top of the volume control, or the tube socket pin 5. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 336150 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Carter, k8vt" Subject: Re: Is it ok to replace wirewound res. w. a carbon? References: <709p9213kr2j8ecurvaal48gonen0kk7nk@4ax.com> Message-ID: <8R1ng.156197$F_3.98936@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 02:56:04 GMT Blacksmith wrote: > I'm wondering if maybe replacing a few wirewound resistors with the > old carbon type is a mistake. I figured that a carbon one would be > fine if the wattage rating was the same, but now I'm wondering since > this Stewart-Warner quit working after I replaced the caps and a few > resistors. I've quadruple checked to make sure I got them on the > correct terminals. Shouldn't make any difference in common usage. (wirewound are obviously quite inductive-not so great for RF applications). Otherwise, a watt is a watt and an ohm is an ohm. Typically, the largest commonly available carbon was 2 watts (maybe more for metal film). Typically, the smallest wirewounds (vitreous enamel were 5 watts(?). As long as the carbon is rated properly and you are not trying to replace an adjustable wirewound (with a slider), you probably should look elsewhere for your problem. Good luck! Article: 336151 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <709p9213kr2j8ecurvaal48gonen0kk7nk@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Is it ok to replace wirewound res. w. a carbon? Message-ID: <2W1ng.2717$Yk.751@trnddc06> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 03:01:18 GMT To add to that, typically wirewound resistors were used in places where the tolerance is a little tighter. Carbon resistors at the time were all over the board. Modern resistors are far better. If you suspect a resistor, simply measure it with an ohmmeter. If it's within a reasonable tolerance, you're fine. There are no other electrical characteristics of a wirewound that mean anything to these radios. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:ividnY0pRpg7OgHZnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > carbons are fine if rated for the same value and wattage or higher. > Generally , smaller values in old radios tend to be WW, since higher > wattages were less available in carbon. > > Mark Oppat > > > "Blacksmith" wrote in message > news:709p9213kr2j8ecurvaal48gonen0kk7nk@4ax.com... >> I'm wondering if maybe replacing a few wirewound resistors with the >> old carbon type is a mistake. I figured that a carbon one would be >> fine if the wattage rating was the same, but now I'm wondering since >> this Stewart-Warner quit working after I replaced the caps and a few >> resistors. I've quadruple checked to make sure I got them on the >> correct terminals. >> Blacksmith >> wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom >> > > > Article: 336152 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:42:15 -0500 Message-ID: <376-449CB497-397@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151115673.051090.214550@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> I guess it is/was the Victor ''side'' of RCA Victor I was thinking about.My Bogalusa wind up phonograph is definetly not a foreign import.The cabinet was made by Bogalusa Furniture MFG. Co in Bogalusa,Louisiana.The spring wind/wind up motor was made by United Air Cleaner,Chicago,Ill and the reproducer (the part that holds the needle and the associated parts of that unit was made by TOMAS.I assume those parts were made by TOMAS because that assembly has theTOMAS name on it.My Bogalusa wind up phonograph is all one hundred percent made in America.Well,I am only really interested in finding out how many wind up phonographs Bogalusa Furniture MFG Co made and how old mine is.I have done some searches for them on the internet over the last few days.No luck yet. cuhulin Article: 336153 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Garrard RC70 Record Changer , 1951 Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 09:14:38 +0100 Message-ID: + Plessey record Deck /Decca D type magnetic cartridge Pictures are now on http://www.diversed.fsnet.co.uk/garrard.htm Final one missing until I re-assemble next week. Any suggestions for other pics/measurements before giving back to owner as there seems to be very little technical stuff on the web on this deck/amp? Repair brief on http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/repair2.htm -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ Article: 336154 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "n cook" Subject: Re: Garrard RC70 Record Changer , 1951 Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:27:23 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1151145499.719626.156890@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Gerry wrote in message news:1151145499.719626.156890@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com... > > n cook wrote: > > + Plessey record Deck /Decca D type magnetic cartridge > > > > Pictures are now on > > http://www.diversed.fsnet.co.uk/garrard.htm > > Final one missing until I re-assemble next week. > > Any suggestions for other pics/measurements before giving back to owner as > > there seems to be very little technical stuff on the web on this deck/amp? > > Repair brief on > > http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/repair2.htm > > > > -- > > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > > electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on > > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > Very interesting... I had no idea that there were magnetic phono > cartridges as early as 1951. I was under the impression that they > weren't commercially available until the 60s. > > Gerry > Yes it was a surprise to me, It must be genuine because the 1951 service sheet mentions it. I'm surprised at the strength of the magnets, the steel rule in some of the pics had to be half an inch from the bakelite hosing or it grabbed the rule. Anyone ideas how to measure the strength of the magnet, hover a steel rule over scale balance and plastic spacers ? It was 67GBP 4s, in 1951 which translates to 1,364 GBP in year 2000, via "shopping basket" RPI calculator -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ Article: 336155 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Help needed with Stewart Warner radio Message-ID: <0bang.1067$Gh.619@trnddc02> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:25:32 GMT Taking another look, I'm curious as to what would happen, both to signal and to the plate voltage of the 6Q7, if you grounded the cathode? That cathode resistor has 70 ohms scribbled next to the 20 ohms that's printed. I don't think it's enough to make a difference, especially considering the others, but it can't hurt to check. At this point I'm ready to think you may have a problem with that tube -- but you said you subbed another one. But obviously the problem is right in that area, so I'd get out the fine tooth comb and the magnifying glass and have a good look. Is there a bad solder connection? Is there a solder jumper, or some component lead touching another pin or terminal? Is there a terminal strip ground that may have a problem from a corroded rivet? I would keep scrutinizing this area until something is discovered. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:r1ip921rs9jbl8g5rutk1f8k2jn5ki94oc@4ax.com... > On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 02:56:54 GMT, "Gary Tayman" > wrote: > >> >>"Blacksmith" wrote in message >>news:sm7p929hjh632o563aq5lanrce91b9pjop@4ax.com... >>> On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 22:49:20 GMT, "Gary Tayman" >>> wrote: >>> If you touch a >>>>tracer probe to the IF plate (which one?) you get stations, are they >>>>coming >>>>through the radio or the tracer? >>> Through the tracer, not the speaker. I marked where the signal comes >>> through on the schematic shown on my original post. >>> >> >>So let me clarify this -- at the plate where you marked "signal", you're >>getting stations? Stations, such as local radio stations, or just the 465 >>generator? > > Radio stations heard through my signal tracer. > >>If you're getting radio stations at the IF plate, it means the LO is >>running >>and you're getting signal through the antenna, all the coils, and the >>first >>IF. If this is the case, I think we're getting really close. That >>detector >>with the 200v plate, what are the other voltages like? I mean the >>cathode, >>grid, and both anodes? > > I marked all the voltages on the schematic in the lower right corner > next to the expected voltages. All the bias voltages are normal. > > You just might be cutoff-biased such that neither >>detector works, and even if you can get the first audio to amplify, you >>may >>not have a detected signal to work with. The only other thing that could >>possibly stop the signal here is if the output IF is bad, which doesn't >>seem >>likely. I'd be curious in knowing what you get if you removed the >>detector/first audio tube and placed your RF tracer probe on the top of >>the >>volume control, or the tube socket pin 5. > > I'll do that tomorrow. > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Article: 336156 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Vacuum Tubes/Electron Tubes From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <22632-449B37D8-272@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <1151151315.626096.319540@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:42:58 GMT On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:15:15 GMT, Peter Wieck wrote: > twirling in his grave knowing you are out there and still hiding > behind him I could easily have got through life without the image of someone crouched down in the earth behind a coffin within which the cadaver twirls. Article: 336157 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: FS: Circa 1957-1969 TV diagnosis and repair books & chart From: "L, not -L" Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:28:51 GMT Three great old resources for diagnosing and repairing you vintage television. -1957, "Pinpoint TV Troubles in 10 Minutes", over 300 well indexed pages used to teach professionals. -1969, "The Practical Handbook of TV Repairs", approx. 130 pages. -1959, "TV Trouble Tracer", symptom/remedy identification wheel. Pictures at http://tinyurl.com/9lk4t $20, plus shipping expense; will ship internationally. -- To email, replace Cujo with Juno Article: 336158 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Is it ok to replace wirewound res. w. a carbon? Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 08:24:45 -0500 Message-ID: <22632-449D3D1D-522@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: WHILE AGREE (FOR THE MOST PART) WITH THE FOREGOING, THE IS ONE MORE THING THAT MUST BE CONSIDERED. THE CARBON RESISTOR TENDS TO CHANGE VALUE LONGTERM WITH HEAT WHILE THE WIREWOUND DOES NOT. USING A CARBON RESISTOR AT NEAR ITS RATED CAPACITY IS ASKING FOR TROUBLE. I WOULD PERSONNALY NOT USE A CARBON WHERE THERE WAS A WIREWOUND. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 336159 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Is it ok to replace wirewound res. w. a carbon? Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 06:46:32 -0700 Message-ID: <9526-449D4238-295@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: You can run into a problem replacing a wirewound with a carbon comp if the resistor dissipates signifigant heat (which many wirewounds do). Over time, the phenolic case chars and carbonizes, establishing a conductive path around the resistor element. A specific example of this kind of problem was in a hybrid Sylvania color chassis (i forget the chassis#) that used transistors as the chroma demodulators. Anyway, those transistors each had a 27K, 2W carbon comp as the collector load resistor. The resistors ran hot, gradually carbonizing the case, which dropped the resistance, and eventually popped the transistor due to overcurrent. Personally, after seeing the aforementioned example, i would *never* replace a wirewound with a carbon comp. But you may be OK with film resistors since there's nothing to char. Bill(oc) Article: 336160 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Re: Find of the week... Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 10:43:34 -0400 Message-ID: References: Nice find. It just so happens that I am making a mold for the 5S319 dial cover and will be able to produce them next week. Plastic, not glass but I am using 0.080 thick PETG which is nearly as stiff as glass. If you need one, the production line starts soon. If you visit my site, do not be dismayed if your cover is not listed. I can make most anything from a sketch. Also, I have not updated the site with new covers recently - lots more available. John dial covers at www.anatekcorp.com/dialcovers/dialcovers.htm On Fri, 23 Jun 2006 19:46:43 GMT, "Carter, k8vt" wrote: >I normally don't do very many garage sales, but there were a couple in >the neighborhood and I had a few minutes to use up before I had to be >where I had to be. Nothing too interesting radio wise on display, so I >asked the gent if he had any old tube radios. He said yes, he thought it >was a Crosley or a Stromberg Carlson. > >Well, he dragged it up from the basement and it turned out to be a >Zenith 5S319 "racetrack dial" table radio, all the original knobs, no >loose veneer, very clean shape, maybe an 8.5 or 9 out of 10. For a very >low two digit figure, it followed me home. > >Ya never know until ya ask! > >[thanks for the consultation Mark] Article: 336161 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Question for Gary Tayman Message-ID: <_9dng.9925$f76.3204@dukeread06> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 11:49:12 -0400 Or anyone who works on car radios. On a 6V car radio, can you run a valid test on the power xfmr by applying 6V AC to 1/2 of the primary? Will the output be close to the same as with the vibrator input? Ken Article: 336162 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Question for Gary Tayman Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:40:54 -0400 Or like minded tec. Can you run a valid test on a 6V car radio xfmr using a 6V ac source in place of the vibrator and battery? Would you use 1/2 of the pri winding to check the hi-v out? Ken Article: 336163 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Question for Gary Tayman Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 12:48:21 -0400 Or like minded tec. Can you run a valid hi-v voltage check on a 6V DC car radio xfmr using a 6V AC source in place of the vib circuit? I would think 6V AC on 1/2 of the primary would give the same output? Ken Article: 336164 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Question for Gary Tayman References: <_9dng.9925$f76.3204@dukeread06> <1151164873.897373.44120@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 13:09:55 -0400 Thanks, Gary. Lost my ng connection there for a moment. Ken nesesu wrote: > You have to be careful with this since the chopper frequency of the > vibrator is usually in the 115Hz range, plus the 6V into the > transformer is normally a square wave, not a peaked voltage sine wave. > You could probably get away with applying nominal 6.3V 60Hz across the > full primary and then reading for about 1/2 the rated HV across each of > the two secondary windings. > > Neil S. > > Ken wrote: > >>Or anyone who works on car radios. On a 6V car radio, can you run a >>valid test on the power xfmr by applying 6V AC to 1/2 of the primary? >>Will the output be close to the same as with the vibrator input? Ken > > Article: 336165 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Question for Gary Tayman References: <_9dng.9925$f76.3204@dukeread06> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:19:32 -0400 TEST Ken wrote: > Or anyone who works on car radios. On a 6V car radio, can you run a > valid test on the power xfmr by applying 6V AC to 1/2 of the primary? > Will the output be close to the same as with the vibrator input? Ken > Article: 336166 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Question for Gary Tayman References: <_9dng.9925$f76.3204@dukeread06> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 14:27:36 -0400 Gary, between ng problems I'm going to slip in another question. This set is being worked on by a friend of mine, and he says with a new SS vib and the Hi-V leads discon from the rect tube he is getting only 95 V >from ct to either end. The xfmr is new also. I'm going to take a look next weekend, but don't have any experience on old auto sets. Ken Gary Tayman wrote: > Well, this is Gary Tayman signing in, and it appears others have already > given the same answer I would've said. I don't think the sine wave instead > of the square would hurt anything, but the vibrator frequency is around > 115-120 Hz, nearly twice as much as house current, and the transformer might > not handle it well. > > When I get an unknown car radio, the first thing I do is pull the vibrator > and rectifier and connect a 250v power supply to the rectifier output. I > switch on the power supply and watch the current. If the electrolytic is > shorted or leaky, it will fraw a bunch of current -- and this is VERY common > with car radios, which is why I cringe when I see people install new filters > without disconnecting the old ones. If the current is near zip, > everything's normal. Also it's a safe bet to assume the power transformer > is fine if there is no current draw -- the usual cause for transformer > failure is a bad filter. Yes, I suppose a rectifier can also do this, but I > haven't seen this with a car radio -- and I've seen several shorted > electrolytics take a transformer with it. > > In any case, if the current draw is minimal, the next step is to apply power > to the tube filaments, allow them to warm up, then apply 250v again. If the > radio starts playing you're home free -- check the rectifier, replace the > vibrator, recap/clean/align of course, but you should be done. > > Article: 336167 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <_9dng.9925$f76.3204@dukeread06> Subject: Re: Question for Gary Tayman Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 19:13:14 GMT I hope this doesn't sound like a really stupid question, but just what kind of radio is this? I'm assuming it's a 6 volt radio, but why was the transformer replaced? The reason I'm asking is, sometimes if the car has been updated to 12 volts, somebody may have substituted a 12 volt transformer. That would give you exactly the reading you see. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Ken" wrote in message news:uufng.9958$f76.3646@dukeread06... > Gary, between ng problems I'm going to slip in another question. This set > is being worked on by a friend of mine, and he says with a new SS vib and > the Hi-V leads discon from the rect tube he is getting only 95 V from ct > to either end. The xfmr is new also. I'm going to take a look next > weekend, but don't have any experience on old auto sets. Ken > > Gary Tayman wrote: > >> Well, this is Gary Tayman signing in, and it appears others have already >> given the same answer I would've said. I don't think the sine wave >> instead of the square would hurt anything, but the vibrator frequency is >> around 115-120 Hz, nearly twice as much as house current, and the >> transformer might not handle it well. >> >> When I get an unknown car radio, the first thing I do is pull the >> vibrator and rectifier and connect a 250v power supply to the rectifier >> output. I switch on the power supply and watch the current. If the >> electrolytic is shorted or leaky, it will fraw a bunch of current -- and >> this is VERY common with car radios, which is why I cringe when I see >> people install new filters without disconnecting the old ones. If the >> current is near zip, everything's normal. Also it's a safe bet to assume >> the power transformer is fine if there is no current draw -- the usual >> cause for transformer failure is a bad filter. Yes, I suppose a >> rectifier can also do this, but I haven't seen this with a car radio -- >> and I've seen several shorted electrolytics take a transformer with it. >> >> In any case, if the current draw is minimal, the next step is to apply >> power to the tube filaments, allow them to warm up, then apply 250v >> again. If the radio starts playing you're home free -- check the >> rectifier, replace the vibrator, recap/clean/align of course, but you >> should be done. >> >> > Article: 336168 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Question for Gary Tayman References: <_9dng.9925$f76.3204@dukeread06> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:42:02 -0400 A good idea. It's a 1948 DeSoto set, I'll know more in a week. I'll check on that xfmr. I hooked up a spare 6V xfmr I had here, got 225V to ct with 6V AC on the full pri winding, and of course twice that with half the pri. Gary Tayman wrote: > I hope this doesn't sound like a really stupid question, but just what kind > of radio is this? I'm assuming it's a 6 volt radio, but why was the > transformer replaced? The reason I'm asking is, sometimes if the car has > been updated to 12 volts, somebody may have substituted a 12 volt > transformer. That would give you exactly the reading you see. > > Article: 336169 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:22:01 -0500 Message-ID: <11218-449DACF9-628@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: That is nice that you are having such a nice day and I hope the rest of y'all are too.The weather here isn't too bad either.This afternoon,I went to the Goodwill store (didn't see anything I couldn't live without) and then to to the discount tobacco store (four six ounce cardboard cans of TOP brand name menthol cigarette tobacco and then to the food store.Yes,Life is Good. cuhulin Article: 336170 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" Subject: FA, Western Electric amplifer manual MINT, ending soon. Message-ID: <6njng.8323$R26.8096@tornado.southeast.rr.com> Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:52:50 GMT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=9743886864 Up for auction on ebay. Western Electric model 6025-B Amplifier manual, MINT!!! This Western Electric manual looks like it just came out of a time machine. It is MINT+. This is for the very rare model 6025B amplifier. You're not likely to find a better example of a 1920s piece of paper, anywhere. Buyer to pay Priority Mail postage and insurance on final bid amount. International bidders please contact me before bidding to assure that item can be mailed to you with Global Priority Mail. Payment via PayPal ONLY. There's no way you will find a better example. This is not a reprint, it is 100% original. Ron -- Radio Collection Web Page, http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com WANTED! http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html Article: 336171 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 23:42:49 GMT Had a real nice day here in the burbs of Albany NY. Went to an antique flea mkt in Round Lake where the oldest tracker organ in the country is! Didn't buy anything radio wise but had a good time. Got home and cooked a couple fillets mignon on the grill with a few Mich Ultras and listened to a Scott Hamilton CD on the deck playing through an Altec with a 15" woofer. Mark Oppat wrote: > I just stopped in the house, I've been out in the garage reassembling a > 1960 era OPTA German console... man, its just the most perfect weather here > today. Sunny, 74 or so. Light breeze. Nice in the shade, which my back > yard is. wow. > > Best of all, I dont have to spend all day inside a convention hall setting > up a show or bake in the sun setting up or running an outdoor event....like > I did all thru my 20's and 30's. I can just enjoy the day. > > Might put up some new shelving on the second floor of my carraige barn... > gotta lot of storing/ organizing to do. > Got the Routes Music show on (syndicated) with Nick Spitzer, playing > American Roots type music... its on many NPR public radio stations. Great > stuff. Prarie Home Companion comes on at 6pm. Life is good, today (as > long as I dont think about the tragedy and harm we are doing to others in > the world). > > back to work... > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 336172 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:46:30 -0500 Message-ID: <11218-449DCED6-663@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: Get a can of sweet corn and poke some holes in it and hang it in the water.It helps draw the fish to you.But then,you are probally at the lake by now. cuhulin Article: 336173 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 18:24:35 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:31:34 -0400, "Mark Oppat" wrote: >I just stopped in the house, I've been out in the garage reassembling a >1960 era OPTA German console... man, its just the most perfect weather here >today. Sunny, 74 or so. Light breeze. Nice in the shade, which my back >yard is. wow. Keep bragging...it was 109 here today, but the very low RH allows for very economical adiabatic cooling via my trusty swamp cooler. When you'll be frozen to the bone in MI, I'll be in the high 60s. So there! :p Article: 336174 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Question for Gary Tayman Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 20:40:31 -0500 Message-ID: <22891-449DE98F-615@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: Popular Science magazine used to have a Gus Wilson Model Garage article each month in their magazines.Gus Wilson once fixed a car radio vibrator that was humming by applying 120 volts AC to it.Maybe it was 110 volts AC back in those years.google,Gus Wilson Model Garage cuhulin Article: 336175 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <_9dng.9925$f76.3204@dukeread06> Subject: Re: Question for Gary Tayman Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 02:14:32 GMT That sounds a little more normal. One thing about these radios, there are a lot of them. Variations of course, but they were used in all Mopar brands >from around 1940 through about 1948. They're actually rather neatly laid out, as they fit in the dash vertically. The biggest problem is that some of them have plastic pushbuttons, and the buttons disintegrate -- and I know of nobody who makes replacements. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Ken" wrote in message news:wshng.9973$f76.909@dukeread06... >A good idea. It's a 1948 DeSoto set, I'll know more in a week. I'll check >on that xfmr. I hooked up a spare 6V xfmr I had here, got 225V to ct with >6V AC on the full pri winding, and of course twice that with half the pri. > > Gary Tayman wrote: > >> I hope this doesn't sound like a really stupid question, but just what >> kind of radio is this? I'm assuming it's a 6 volt radio, but why was the >> transformer replaced? The reason I'm asking is, sometimes if the car has >> been updated to 12 volts, somebody may have substituted a 12 volt >> transformer. That would give you exactly the reading you see. >> >> > Article: 336176 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Question for Gary Tayman Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 21:42:31 -0500 Message-ID: <376-449DF817-526@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: I think those those old Chrysler cars just after World War Two had the best looking radios.When my oldest sister got married back in the 1950's,(she is over seventy yeas old now,I am only sixty four years young,still just as crazy as ever) her hubby owned a Chysler just like that. cuhulin Article: 336177 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 21:52:46 -0500 Message-ID: <377-449DFA7E-89@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151200583.772231.190430@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> When it's Springtime in Alaska,,,,, it's forty belowwwwww,,,,,,, North to Alaskaaaaa,,,,,,, going North,,, the rush is onnn,,,,,,,, www.supertalkms.com the weather thingy. cuhulin Article: 336178 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <0inng.5945$6w.4873@fed1read11> Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 04:09:46 GMT > > Seller is clueless! "Ocean Crossing", indeed... > I emailed the seller about it and they replied that they would pull the auction. We'll wait and see... Ron -- Radio Collection Web Page, http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com WANTED! http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html Hard to find 2 pin mic connectors for BA rigs. http://radioheaven.homestead.com/2pinmicplug.html