Article: 336179 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sat, 24 Jun 2006 22:20:07 -0600 Message-ID: <457-449E0EF7-6@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> References: I have to agree Mark . I had NPR on most of the day . We have the Idaho show which brings out some pretty darn good folk and blues and maybe some od stuff thats neet to hear . I listen to Prarie home companion alot . At yard sales today i found a technics probably 80`s turntable with a good mag & needle 3$ . Then in another town i found a real neet antique oak mirror affair that used to go on top of a dry sink . I am going to fix it up and put it in the bathroom i remodeled on the marble vanity cabinet . I was waiting for a mirror piece like this . At the same sale i picked up a very small ( half the size of normal ) very old wood , painted , aged bathroom medicine wall cabinet ... it is clear full of real old bathroom products such as a hand razor , bars of soap never opened , tooth paste and shampoo in lead tubes , glass bottles or pills along with other stuff . very cool to put up on the wall in the bathroom for display . It was about 85* today light wind . I did get an old Atwater 42 mouse box cleaned up today too ... it had to get the garden hose treatment due to mouse crap . Both transformers test good and the wrinkle paint on the metal box looks about an 8+ Your right .. perfect day . Article: 336181 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 06:55:34 -0400 'ATWOOD' would turn over in his grave. Ken :-: Ghost Chip :-: wrote: > What is an "Ocean Crossing" type? > I wonder which ocean. > The ocean of time! > GC > > Article: 336182 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: mikestraton@webtv.net Subject: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 05:12:33 -0700 Message-ID: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> this is probably an annoying question for all you electronic gurus, but i'm going to ask it anyway. my record player is broken, and nobody sells them anymore. 'restoration hardware' in the L.A. area did sell a reasonably good suitcase style one about 3 years ago ( yes, it was really pretty good) but i procrastinated and didn't get it and now it's discontinued. i did buy one from the c. crane catalog but the 'high fidelity' speakers are NOT - more like speakers from transistor radios. i do NOT want a separate turntable / component system, i want an all-in-one good old fashioned record player with the speakers included. i prefer a reputable retailer or onine source, not a private party. but if there is anybody local in the L.A. area that has a GOOD record player for sale i would be interested in taking a look at it. an old style large console model would be ok. thanks, mike in L.A. Article: 336183 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 12:38:51 GMT While you were having a perfect day, I was in the garage trying to clean up, and get the trash out. Having been remodeling the house, there's plenty of it, and it was sunny and hot while I was busy bundling up old carpeting and tacking. Since the trash people broke the trash can last week, I decided to go to Home Depot to buy another one. On the way there the car overheated. So I let it cool down, took it to a garage a couple blocks away, and called my parents nearby to take me home. So now I'm driving the T-Bird -- cool car but no air conditioning. Last night I took the T-Bird to a car cruise. That was enjoyable, but still hot and humid. Then again, I talked to people who had been in Texas, Tennessee, and a few other places, and they came back to Florida to cool off! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:lJudnc_rnqM2PQDZnZ2dnUVZ_rKdnZ2d@comcast.com... >I just stopped in the house, I've been out in the garage reassembling a > 1960 era OPTA German console... man, its just the most perfect weather > here > today. Sunny, 74 or so. Light breeze. Nice in the shade, which my back > yard is. wow. > > Best of all, I dont have to spend all day inside a convention hall > setting > up a show or bake in the sun setting up or running an outdoor > event....like > I did all thru my 20's and 30's. I can just enjoy the day. > > Might put up some new shelving on the second floor of my carraige barn... > gotta lot of storing/ organizing to do. > Got the Routes Music show on (syndicated) with Nick Spitzer, playing > American Roots type music... its on many NPR public radio stations. Great > stuff. Prarie Home Companion comes on at 6pm. Life is good, today (as > long as I dont think about the tragedy and harm we are doing to others in > the world). > > back to work... > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 336184 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: COPPER SCREEN Source??? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 08:47:07 -0400 Anyone know a source for copper screen, same mesh as porch screen? Ken Article: 336185 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:03:28 GMT wrote in message news:11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net... > this is probably an annoying question for all you electronic gurus, but > i'm going to ask it anyway. my record player is broken, and nobody sells > them anymore. 'restoration hardware' in the L.A. area did sell a > reasonably good suitcase style one about 3 years ago ( yes, it was > really pretty good) but i procrastinated and didn't get it and now it's > discontinued. i did buy one from the c. crane catalog but the 'high > fidelity' speakers are NOT - more like speakers from transistor radios. > i do NOT want a separate turntable / component system, i want an > all-in-one good old fashioned record player with the speakers included. > i prefer a reputable retailer or onine source, not a private party. but > if there is anybody local in the L.A. area that has a GOOD record player > for sale i would be interested in taking a look at it. an old style > large console model would be ok. thanks, mike in L.A. > Take a look at the Vestax Handy-Trax: http://vestax.com/v/products/active/active.html Does that meet your needs? -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/gallery2/v/Antique_radios/ and the workbench webcam: http://www.binghamtonradio.com/webcam Article: 336186 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" References: Subject: Re: COPPER SCREEN Source??? Message-ID: <30wng.56389$Lm5.18215@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:15:43 GMT I've seen it at large craft shops, like Michael's, up to 8 1/2 x 11. "Ken" wrote in message news:jBvng.10025$f76.6482@dukeread06... > Anyone know a source for copper screen, same mesh as porch screen? Ken > Article: 336187 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? Message-ID: <73wng.8405$R26.7423@tornado.southeast.rr.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:18:59 GMT Ken wrote in message news:JYtng.10022$f76.5633@dukeread06... > 'ATWOOD' would turn over in his grave. Ken Who the heck is "ATWOOD"???? Ron -- Radio Collection Web Page, http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com WANTED! http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html Hard to find 2 pin mic connectors for BA rigs. http://radioheaven.homestead.com/2pinmicplug.html Article: 336188 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <449e8e6d$0$31646$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Vacuum Tubes/Electron Tubes References: <22632-449B37D8-272@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <1151151315.626096.319540@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1151194747.315297.233180@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <449e6391$0$31642$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <1151233124.080363.54610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: 25 Jun 2006 13:23:57 GMT Steven wrote: > I'd be spouting crap about people being child molesters and lots of > links, conspiracy and crap like the alt.kooks do. It is the relative amount of crap, not the subject, that matters. But I have fed enough trolls for today, so i'll shut my mouth already. On-topic content: Anyone know who currently owns the Berlin tube plant that was bought by Samsung after the wende? Samsung supposedly disposed of all the old macfhines and company history, to make an efficient production line for picture tubes. More recently I think I saw a Panasonic picture tube from the series that was manufactured there. I'm wondering how things are, and if there is any chance they will survive or be resurrected as a tube plant after the CRT concept is dumped in favour of Far-East manufactured TFT panels. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 336189 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: COPPER SCREEN Source??? References: <30wng.56389$Lm5.18215@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 09:38:20 -0400 Thanks, I'll try them. Ken Robert Murrell wrote: > I've seen it at large craft shops, like Michael's, up to 8 1/2 x 11. > > "Ken" wrote in message > news:jBvng.10025$f76.6482@dukeread06... > >>Anyone know a source for copper screen, same mesh as porch screen? Ken >> > > > Article: 336190 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Message-ID: <7gxng.5586$8i2.8030@wagner.videotron.net> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 10:41:21 -0400 "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:OdidnVCUNqxMBwPZnZ2dnUVZ_r2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > (If someone would make > a direct-replacement plastic-cone speaker, the Model 11 could reach true > hi-fi quality, but that's another story.) Could you explain what you mean by "plastic-cone speaker to reach true hi-fi quality" ? Syl Article: 336191 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 07:32:43 -0700 Message-ID: <27634-449E9E8B-475@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> References: Well, on the subject of perfect days, last Tuesday and Wednesday were definitely 10-plus weather-wise here in the Bay area. Temps in the 70s and 80s, low wind, and perfect for flying RC model planes. My humble little webbie here signs off with the caption "End of a perfect flying day". See- http://commmunity-2.webtv.net/oldcoot/TurboTipsyand/ And then comes the reciprochal, those socked-in, cold, foggy days by which Mark Twain defined SF summers. :-) But all told, the best year-round climate imaginable. Bill(oc) Article: 336192 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" Subject: Kitchen vacuum tubes Message-ID: <1Lxng.7953$Wl.4120@trnddc01> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:14:05 GMT This guy is making his own tubes in his kitchen! PP http://www.fonar.com.pl/a_index.htm Article: 336193 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 09:28:14 -0600 Message-ID: <1526-449EAB8E-809@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: You can get those older Calphone record players off ebay or someone else for aroud 20 to 50$ . I see them in thrift stores here for 25$ . They are not stereo but sound good . Article: 336194 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 08:25:18 -0700 Message-ID: <27634-449EAADE-485@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> References: <27634-449E9E8B-475@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> Akk! Try again- http://community-2.webtv.net/oldcoot/TurboTipsyand/ Article: 336195 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:53:33 -0400 Message-ID: <129tcc5i4edqr65@corp.supernews.com> References: After two months of rain every other day at least, Vermont has suddenly become glorious as well. Until tomorrow anyway it is glorious. I am getting back to finishing up my Standard Model A 100 year old phono and Scott Phantom now that I've finished creating a rosebed and planting it and everything else. Plus I added a performance computer and hi flow exhaust to the Dodge 6000 turbo ragtop and have the 0-60 down to 9 seconds! I haven't found much radiowise at the fleas here as the marlet has been depressed by so much rain. But it's fun going each week. John H. Article: 336196 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 09:49:45 -0600 Message-ID: <1526-449EB099-814@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151172426.084401.141140@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Gary the only way to get a fair deal on that model Zenith is to find one at some yard sale or junk store cheap . I want one too but wont pay thousands just dont need it that bad. I dont want to resell it either . That kind of money goes to food and dentists . I got a Philco 16B not to long ago minus all the tubes . The chassis looked almost like new so i filled with tubes and plugged it in & fired it up . It was probably serviced in the 50`s because the vintage replaced filters are still good All the cap blocks are original still too . Boy i tell you that thing really sounds good with that 10`` speaker . Its the big pointed top tombstone . I think those are a bit ? dopey looking with such a tiny tiny dial but its a great radio that is not on my ``sell`` list . Article: 336197 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ken scharf Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? References: <1526-449EAB8E-809@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 12:03:10 -0400 Ken G. wrote: > You can get those older Calphone record players off ebay or someone > else for aroud 20 to 50$ . I see them in thrift stores here for 25$ . > They are not stereo but sound good . here are a few ebay links. The last one is stereo. > http://cgi.ebay.com/CALIFONE-1430K-VINTAGE-PORTABLE-TURNTABLE-RECORD-PLAYER_W0QQitemZ9744323737QQihZ008QQcategoryZ48649QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/Califone-1430-KM-Turntable-Record-Player-Portable_W0QQitemZ9744331085QQihZ008QQcategoryZ48649QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/CALIFONE-1450C-RECORD-PLAYER-78-45-33-16-turntable_W0QQitemZ9744501188QQihZ008QQcategoryZ3283QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/Califone-1420K-Solid-State-Phonegraph_W0QQitemZ6639399813QQihZ012QQcategoryZ1442QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://cgi.ebay.com/Califone-1130C-STEREO-Turntable-4-speed-2-speakers_W0QQitemZ110000305994QQihZ001QQcategoryZ48649QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Article: 336198 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 09:58:49 -0600 Message-ID: <1526-449EB2B9-818@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> References: Here Fedex IS USPS .. the boxes and both services are in the same building . If someone sends me something UPS and it comes damaged i simply throw it away and ignore it because nothing can be done as UPS just shouts ``poor packing `` and tells you where to put it . We have been through this over 100 times at work even though the product was in its original box and packing . Article: 336199 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 10:58:48 -0500 Message-ID: <22891-449EB2B8-708@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151213529.789792.256960@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Computer drivers.Although I haven't used it yet,you might be interested in checking out, www.driveragent.com Disclaimer,I don't know enough about computers to really know what I am thinking about. It is a luverly day here in the auld deep South.I hope y'all are having a nice weekend. cuhulin,the South Article: 336200 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:01:29 -0500 Message-ID: <22891-449EB359-710@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: I bet there are a lot of people from Phoenix in Florida,,, cooling off. cuhulin Article: 336201 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:06:17 -0500 Message-ID: <22891-449EB479-712@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <27634-449EAADE-485@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> Nice Airfield there,Oldcoot. cuhulin Article: 336202 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:11:50 -0500 Message-ID: <22891-449EB5C6-715@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <449EAFB0.A20867E5@earthlink.net> Ocala is famous for Horses too.My half acre of land in North Florida (Interlachen,Putnam County,seven miles West of Palatka) isn't far from Ocala. cuhulin Article: 336203 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:22:04 -0500 Message-ID: <22891-449EB82C-718@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: How much is an old Bogalusa wind up Phonograph worth anyway? What do I care anyway? It is a keeper.Money,I would shove that money in my bank account and then I wouldn't have a pot to wee wee in.I prefer to hang on to my old Bogalusa. By the way,a gal in my class at Forest Hill school,she was from Bogalusa,Louisiana.Her dad owned a used car lot here in Jackson,Mississippi.She used to drive a 1955 Buick car and she owned a Pekinese dog.That little dog hated my guts.That was back in the 1950's. cuhulin,the South Article: 336204 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: UPS nightmare, read this if you ship anything Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:30:22 -0500 Message-ID: <22891-449EBA1E-721@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <1526-449EB2B9-818@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> I sent something via UPS not too long ago to another State.About 92 pounds it weighed,after I got done with packing it up in a U-Haul tv/microwave box.I had two pieces of plywood in there plus a lot of cardboard and two pillows I had bought at the Goodwill store to protect certain areas of the item.I am not the best at packing up things for shipment.(y'all ought to see my Christmas wrapping) But it got there in fine fettle. cuhulin Article: 336205 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Phipps" Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:50:40 -0500 Message-ID: <129tfmvbnt4g1f1@corp.supernews.com> References: <1526-449EAB8E-809@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Califone and Newcomb "school" phonos turn up all the time at thrift stores, flea markets, and swap meets. I've picked up a mint Califone for $15 and a stereo Newcomb for $30 within the past few weeks at flea markets. Have also given a few "well used" ones away to make room. New needles can still be found for $5-$10 from various online sources. Surely one of those big LA swap meets must have one tucked away somewhere... I believe Califone is still in business and sells them new for $200 or so, or at least they did up until a year or two ago. Steve P. "Ken G." wrote in message news:1526-449EAB8E-809@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net... > You can get those older Calphone record players off ebay or someone > else for aroud 20 to 50$ . I see them in thrift stores here for 25$ . > They are not stereo but sound good . > Article: 336206 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:42:22 -0500 Message-ID: <10362-449EBCEE-648@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <1Lxng.7953$Wl.4120@trnddc01> ANYBODY HERE WHO CAN TRANSLATE POLISH ? CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 336207 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:42:43 -0500 Message-ID: <10362-449EBD03-649@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <1Lxng.7953$Wl.4120@trnddc01> ANYBODY HERE WHO CAN TRANSLATE POLISH ? CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 336208 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Phipps" Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:56:52 -0500 Message-ID: <129tg2j22ptetb5@corp.supernews.com> References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> I've been using Califone and Newcomb phonos to play 78s for years and never been disappointed. They're the best phonos going when you can find them for 10 to 20 bucks. "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:R4OdnYCtBP41IwPZnZ2dnUVZ_u6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > I hope your suggestion is some sort of sick joke. Who in their right mind > would buy a piece of garbage like this -- and mono, yet -- to play their > records? Article: 336209 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> <7gxng.5586$8i2.8030@wagner.videotron.net> Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:01:57 -0400 "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:noudnbggeZKeJAPZnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> If someone would make a direct-replacement plastic-cone >>> speaker, the Model 11 could reach true hi-fi quality... > >> Could you explain what you mean by "plastic-cone speaker >> to reach true hi-fi quality"? > > Exactly what I said. The 11 used paper cones. A properly designed > plastic-coned driver would have significantly better sound quality. I'm sorry to tell you this William, but the cone material (in your case most probably polypropylene) has nothing to do with the frequency response (it's a misconception to think paper cones can not offer as wide a frequency response as "poly*" cones, what you call plastic). The speaker "mechanics" has more to do in the frequency response then the cone itself. The surround, spider, magnet, voice coil etc...all addup to create a specific speaker response/transient/damping... If you want great sounding speakers using paper cones, find a Grundig radio. The mid range in a Grundig 2028 for instance, installed in a small enclosure gives splendid sound going well into the tens of Khz. They are about 4" in diameter. You won't believe your ears. You will also discover why some buyers are ready to spend big bucks on large 10 * 7" Grundig speakers, actually twice the value of the radio itself ! I don't know that particular KLH model (I'm not a fan of KLH anyway), but I'd like to know what you mean by "no one makes a replacement that matches the 11 mechanically and electrically". I would guess by "mechanically" you mean the dimension and shape ? As for "electrically" I would venture a guess; it has a weird impedance like some philips transformerless tube radio ? Syl Article: 336210 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Soild-State Replacements for Vacuum Tubes? From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:11:19 GMT Has anyone collected or been collecting together practical data on assembling solid-state modules to replace those vacuum tubes which are becoming increasingly hard to find? Article: 336211 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:11:40 GMT Surprisingly, after some 25 years of CD's, there are a LOT of record players still around, and many new turntables are better quality than the ones made during the "golden age." You can go a few different routes: 1. You can buy a new turntable. Most newer/better ones are of the "pro" type, so the best places to look are either at music stores (Sam Ash for example) or on eBay under musical instruments. No, they aren't self-contained complete players, but they do have the advantages of being good quality equipment, and many have direct digital connections for recording directly onto a computer for digitizing. You'll also find many of these that play 78's -- although you'll need to seek out a good cartridge/needle for the purpose. They also are available new, and good quality -- not real common, but they're out there. 2. You can buy a good used turntable or record player. You can find turntables in places such as Goodwill or other thrift or pawn shops, and also record stores, particuarly those who sell used records. Of course you're taking your chances with one that works, but you have a better chance at the record stores, mainly because the owners often clean and check them out before putting them on the shelf. Again, when it comes to a complete player vs. components, you'll find consoles all day long at the thrift stores. Although they are getting old, and in many cases are nice pieces of furniture, console stereos have hardly any collector value and don't sell for much -- so if you have a place for it, you should be able to find a nice one cheap. One strong recommendation if you buy a used turntable -- buy a new needle. Who knows how old that original needle is, and replacements are generally easy to find. Garage-A-Records is one great source. Personally whenever I've brought home a used turntable I've replaced the cartridge. Now, as others have said, some basic players, such as Califon, are still around and can be purchased new. These are designed for classroom/industrial use and are rugged, although the gray cabinet may not go well with your living room decor. On the other hand, you can find Crosley or similar repro players in department stores -- they look interesting but are pure crap in terms of quality. That about runs the gamut. Good luck in your search! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net... > this is probably an annoying question for all you electronic gurus, but > i'm going to ask it anyway. my record player is broken, and nobody sells > them anymore. 'restoration hardware' in the L.A. area did sell a > reasonably good suitcase style one about 3 years ago ( yes, it was > really pretty good) but i procrastinated and didn't get it and now it's > discontinued. i did buy one from the c. crane catalog but the 'high > fidelity' speakers are NOT - more like speakers from transistor radios. > i do NOT want a separate turntable / component system, i want an > all-in-one good old fashioned record player with the speakers included. > i prefer a reputable retailer or onine source, not a private party. but > if there is anybody local in the L.A. area that has a GOOD record player > for sale i would be interested in taking a look at it. an old style > large console model would be ok. thanks, mike in L.A. > Article: 336212 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: BC-348 paper - giveaway. From: noone@telus.com Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:12:22 GMT Maybe the wrong group, but anyway I just ran across about 2lbs. of BC-348 paper. There's one original booklet "Preliminary Instructions for Radio Receiver BC-348-O" (1942?) in rough shape, but quite readable. The rest of the sheets are mostly photocopies and include pertinent pages from the "Surplus Radio Conversion Manual" dated 1948. Sold the radio way back, so these are headed for the trash next week if nobody wants them. Pay for mailing is all (probably cost more than they're worth?) but if anything interests you I can break it down and ship via lettermail. If you're going to be in Calgary for the Stampede, you're welcome to pick it up. Haggis. Article: 336213 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <10363-449AFD5A-63@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> <1151077103.192087.257730@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:23:51 GMT There is an interesting point on that page, the notion that any large LP record can be confused with a 78. It appears in the generation that has passed, a lot of people, even older ones, have totally forgotten the concept of records altogether. When DJ'ing at car shows when I've pulled out a 78 to play, people have asked questions like, "which ones came out first? The LP was first and 78's came later, right?" Of course a majority of people now consider all records to be scratchy old crap, and nothing will sound very good unless it's on a CD or hard drive. Of course the cars themselves aren't historic or old, just "cool". Ahhh, the power of marketing! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message news:j6KdnWA6HoIACwPZnZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@bright.net... > Peter Wieck wrote: > >> Gary Tayman wrote: >> >>>I can tell you this -- long after electric phonographs became popular in >>>living rooms, wind-up acoustics were still being made as portables. The >>>simple reason is that they didn't require batteries or AC power. Just >>>when >>>they stopped making them I don't know, but didn't Lionel or somebody make >>>a >>>wind-up kiddy phonograph into the 50's? >>> >> >> >> Wind-ups were made (and are still being made today) overseas for many >> years after they faded here in the US. Initially under license from >> Victor (RCA) (and others), recently as Crap-O-Phone knock-offs. It >> would not surprise me at all during/before Rural Electrification >> penetrated into the distant upper-mid-west and swamplands of the south >> that a niche-market for them did not continue well into the 50s in this >> country. Within my own lifetime, I remember 78s being available 'new' >> at record stores, and I was born in 1952. Peter Wieck >> Wyncote, PA >> > > http://www.cool78s.com/faq.html Article: 336214 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 10:24:54 -0700 Message-ID: <12128-449EC6E6-42@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> References: <22891-449EB479-712@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> >From: cuhulin@webtv.net > >Nice Airfield there,Oldcoot Thanks dude. It's greart fun playing "fighter planes" with the crows, too. But never badger the seagulls as they're much more serene, benign critters on the wing. :-) Out at Ocean Beach (the same stretch of beach depicted in the old apocalyptic movie "On The Beach", there's now a bulldozed-up ridge line that gives great slope lift when the wind is off the ocean, out of the West. The planes love soaring in that lift. With electrics, you can shut the motor off completely and air start whenever needed. From the Weather Service wind chart, it looks perfect there now, so am heading out there for the day. Yes, life is good. Bill(oc) Article: 336215 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? Message-ID: <3ckt92t622sm4133hfapuar0es7kijab9k@4ax.com> References: <73wng.8405$R26.7423@tornado.southeast.rr.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:13:52 GMT On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:18:59 GMT, " Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote: > >Ken wrote in message >news:JYtng.10022$f76.5633@dukeread06... >> 'ATWOOD' would turn over in his grave. Ken > >Who the heck is "ATWOOD"???? > >Ron The Atwood Kent that was referred to in the body of the ebay listing. "This is a wonderful old antique tube radio in very nice condition. Made by ATWOOD KENT. RECEIVING SET MODEL 30 PHILA. PA SERIAL NUMBER 539737 I believe it is portable type of radio and people listened to it as they crossed the ocean in a ship. It plugs in but also can use a battery of some type." Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 336216 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 14:26:36 -0400 Message-ID: <129tlb52en2sf7d@corp.supernews.com> References: <129tcc5i4edqr65@corp.supernews.com> "Hagstar" wrote in message news:129tcc5i4edqr65@corp.supernews.com... > the Dodge 6000 turbo ragtop Oops- 600 that is.... John H. Article: 336217 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: what a perfect day here in Detroit area! Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:17:59 -0700 Message-ID: References: <457-449E0EF7-6@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 05:18:02 GMT, yerke@adelphia.net (Rick Yerke) wrote: >My perfect day in Moscow Pa. was playing tennis for about 2 hours,then going >to my VFW for a couple of cold 7&7`s.Went home and had a couple of Hot Dogs >with lots of mustard,took a cool shower and then went to Scranton to see Kathy >Griffin on stage for free. Cool beans! Did you see Giuseppi Nudo, Scranton's newest organ grinder and monkey performing anywhere? He's taken to that to make money, since his fraudBay sales have gone a-swirling down the toilet. Article: 336218 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Soild-State Replacements for Vacuum Tubes? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 11:24:41 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:11:19 GMT, "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," wrote: >Has anyone collected or been collecting together practical data on assembling solid-state modules to replace those vacuum tubes which are becoming increasingly hard to find? You're about 30 years too late. Teledyne already did this with the FETrons back in the '70s, replacing common minatures like 12AX7s and 6AK5s among others. Although they could mimic the characteristics of a tube fairly well, there were problems. FETrons were discontinued quite awhile ago. They were marketed to the Bell Operating Companies and various GTE companies as a replacement to conserve power and cut down maintenance costs in various short haul analog carrier systems. Article: 336219 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:34:06 -0500 Message-ID: <10362-449ED71E-671@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: It's my Bogalusa and I will hang on to my old Bogalusa forever.After all,y'all can't beat a name like that. cuhulin,the auld deep South Article: 336220 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 13:41:09 -0500 Message-ID: <10362-449ED8C5-672@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: Scratchy old crap? My little doggy www.catledog.com she plays hard and fast.I have ''War' wounds all over me. cuhulin,the auld deep South Article: 336221 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <73wng.8405$R26.7423@tornado.southeast.rr.com> <3ckt92t622sm4133hfapuar0es7kijab9k@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:01:12 GMT Brian McAllister wrote in message news:3ckt92t622sm4133hfapuar0es7kijab9k@4ax.com... > > The Atwood Kent that was referred to in the body of the ebay listing. > > Brian, I guess I was so distracted by the crappy chassis inside the AK cabinet I missed the Atwood in the text.... I must be getting old. Ron -- Radio Collection Web Page, http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com WANTED! http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html Hard to find 2 pin mic connectors for BA rigs. http://radioheaven.homestead.com/2pinmicplug.html Article: 336222 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: With Apologies to The Byrds and Ecclesiastes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:08:14 -0400 Message-ID: <129tnp6af68aq23@corp.supernews.com> For everything Clean, clean, clean There is a solvent, Clean, clean, clean For the grime, for every goo that's under heaven. A solvent for glue, and one for paint; A solvent for latex, for oil base, A solvent that kills and a solvent to heal That makes you laugh, that makes you weep For everything Clean, clean, clean There is a solvent, Clean, clean, clean For the grime, for every goo that's under heaven. A solvent for tar, a solvent for grease A solvent for bugs, and solvent for reek A solvent that cleans and one to erase Your dial scale- look there it is too late For everything Clean, clean, clean There is a solvent, Clean, clean, clean For the grime, for every goo that's under heaven. *&*&*&*&*&*&* John H. Article: 336223 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:57:06 -0400 Message-ID: <129tqkk1tlmfk3d@news.supernews.com> References: <73wng.8405$R26.7423@tornado.southeast.rr.com> <1151264975.619397.185050@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1151264975.619397.185050@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: >> Ken wrote in message >> news:JYtng.10022$f76.5633@dukeread06... >> > 'ATWOOD' would turn over in his grave. Ken >> >> Who the heck is "ATWOOD"???? >> >> Ron >> >> -- >> >> Radio Collection Web Page, >> http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com >> WANTED! >> http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html >> Hard to find 2 pin mic connectors for BA rigs. >> http://radioheaven.homestead.com/2pinmicplug.html > > atwood is Atwater's little brother. also a brother named Atfire. dad was Atlast? Article: 336224 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <73wng.8405$R26.7423@tornado.southeast.rr.com> <1151264975.619397.185050@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:59:19 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote in message news:1151264975.619397.185050@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > atwood is Atwater's little brother. also a brother named Atfire. > I had to ask... Ron Article: 336225 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 14:50:13 -0500 Message-ID: <10363-449EE8F5-168@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <10362-449ED8C5-672@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> I remember now.The Michael Baker Jr.Engineers company 1956 Ford Car did not have a radio.And it was a six cylinder standard shift.Or,what some of y'all call a manual shift or stick shift tranasmission.It was a very deep dark green,as far as the paint job was. cuhulin,the auld deep South Article: 336226 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: COPPER SCREEN Source??? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 14:55:20 -0500 Message-ID: <10362-449EEA28-676@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <30wng.56389$Lm5.18215@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com> I am going to pay that scrappy 38 years old Bell South woman next door $200.00 to get up on my roof and do some scrapeing and painting.She said she would.I have gotten too fat and wobbly to get up anymore. cuhulin Article: 336227 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Vacuum Tubes/Electron Tubes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:02:36 -0500 Message-ID: <10363-449EEBDC-169@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151233124.080363.54610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I remember what Nederlands did (or more properly,didn't do) in World War Two.Think what y'all like,but I never pay any attention at all to anybody in Nederlands.Or Belgium or France either.I have never been to Europe before and I never want to go there either.(Vietnam,I went,they have more guts than Europeans) I will never be sorry I posted this. cuhulin Article: 336228 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Vacuum Tubes/Electron Tubes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:07:18 -0500 Message-ID: <10362-449EECF6-681@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <449e8e6d$0$31646$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> Go to, alt.military.police news group and tell them you are from Nederlands.Let me warn you,they don't like Belgium either. cuhulin Article: 336229 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: With Apologies to The Byrds and Ecclesiastes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:18:19 -0400 Message-ID: <129trsjbd4vsv25@corp.supernews.com> References: <129tnp6af68aq23@corp.supernews.com> <1151264950.749077.35750@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1151264950.749077.35750@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Actually by Bob Dylan. Extensive Googling doesn't back you up- references please. John H. Article: 336230 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: With Apologies to The Byrds and Ecclesiastes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:21:45 -0400 Message-ID: <129ts31fmf0tca7@corp.supernews.com> References: <129tnp6af68aq23@corp.supernews.com> <1151264950.749077.35750@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1151264950.749077.35750@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Peppermint Castile Soap (Dr. Bonner's) > Dr. Bronner, actually, as in "artic timber wolves raised by tiny dachshund mother obey her orders with zip and pep because love discipline evolves faith strength respect uniting all one!". John H. Article: 336231 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: COPPER SCREEN Source??? References: <30wng.56389$Lm5.18215@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com> <10362-449EEA28-676@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:32:33 -0400 WHAT! cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > I am going to pay that scrappy 38 years old Bell South woman next door > $200.00 to get up on my roof and do some scrapeing and painting.She said > she would.I have gotten too fat and wobbly to get up anymore. > cuhulin > Article: 336232 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> <7gxng.5586$8i2.8030@wagner.videotron.net> <4dSdncTRMM-vVwPZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:54:15 -0400 "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:4dSdncTRMM-vVwPZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> I'm sorry to tell you this William, but the cone material (in your case >> most probably polypropylene) has nothing to do with the frequency >> response (it's a misconception to think paper cones can not offer >> as wide a frequency response as "poly*" cones, what you call plastic). >> The speaker "mechanics" has more to do in the frequency response then >> the cone itself. The surround, spider, magnet, voice coil etc...all add >> up > to >> create a specific speaker response/transient/damping... > > I'm sorry to spoil things for you, but plastic cones have significant > advantages over paper. Explain why some of the best sounding speakers on the market are using doped paper cones ? "Plastic" alone isn't much better than paper as for break-ups and can create multiple resonances. Sure they are stiffer, but don't sound better, unless you have limited hearing. Poly speakers are cheap to produce. If they were "the" answer, everyone would have adopted that material. Tannoy uses doped paper and doped polyolefin in their high-end products. Many other fine sounding speakers use similar amterials (including Titanium and other high-tech material in some of their lines). Cabasse for one, uses highly doped polymer membranes and high-tech membranes. Sure, high-tech membranes are great, if you can afford it. But paper cones are far from being "dead". If you think plastic cones sound better, fine, buy whatever suits your taste, but don't tell me paper is dead and is crap. The finest sounding speakers I listened to were made of doped paper...Yeah, I do listen to other speakers when I have a chance. I hope your "Bud" got wiser with time as 43 years later, paper is still used and "golden" ears gave high reviews to speakers using such "passé" material... Syl Article: 336233 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sofa Slug Subject: Re: With Apologies to The Byrds and Ecclesiastes References: <129tnp6af68aq23@corp.supernews.com> <1151264950.749077.35750@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <129trsjbd4vsv25@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:52:38 GMT Hagstar wrote: > "Peter Wieck" wrote in message > news:1151264950.749077.35750@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> Actually by Bob Dylan. > > > Extensive Googling doesn't back you up- references please. > > John H. > > Pete Seeger actually wrote the music originally for Turn! Turn! Turn!, basing the lyrics on Ecclesiastes. Article: 336234 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:53:41 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1Lxng.7953$Wl.4120@trnddc01> Paul P > This guy is making his own tubes in his kitchen! > > PP > > http://www.fonar.com.pl/a_index.htm > Paul, you made my day! I have posted the direct link http://www.fonar.com.pl/audio/inne/pwl/pwl.htm in German to RMorg, would be fine if you could post in English. Best Regards Georg Article: 336235 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: d Subject: Re: Soild-State Replacements for Vacuum Tubes? References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:21:28 GMT Solid state 1L6 - http://www.antiqueradios.com/marc/1l6.html Solid state 1U4 - http://antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=45987 See the last post in the thread! Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian, wrote: > Has anyone collected or been collecting together practical data on assembling solid-state modules to replace those vacuum tubes which are becoming increasingly hard to find? Article: 336236 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: d Subject: Re: Soild-State Replacements for Vacuum Tubes? References: Message-ID: <6bEng.7335$O35.3827@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:33:38 GMT The 50A1 can be replaced (cheaply!) with an Amperite D5TF30, at least in a Transoceanic - I've had one in my A600 for months and listen to it 5-6 hours a day! Mark Oppat wrote: > There were several SS versions of the 01A, but the availability and lower > prices of the 01A have killed any further production of them. Back in the > 70's the old timers thought we were running out of 01A's. They turned out > to be very wrong. There are almost no antique radio tubes that can not be > found reasonably priced. The only exceptions are the type 50, 1L6, 50A1, > and 6T5. > > Mark Oppat Article: 336237 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <449f1215$0$31648$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Vacuum Tubes/Electron Tubes References: <1151233124.080363.54610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <10363-449EEBDC-169@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Date: 25 Jun 2006 22:45:41 GMT cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > I remember what Nederlands did (or more properly,didn't do) in World War > Two.Think what y'all like,but I never pay any attention at all to I think this discussion is way off-topic, so I will not go into it much further. I could get into history and find many things that actually were done, and as much reasons for things that weren't. I could also find many things about your country's actions to throw mud back at you. For other readers: I am also aware of and thankfull for the help that eventually came from overseas to end WWII. > anybody in Nederlands.Or Belgium or France either.I have never been to > Europe before and I never want to go there either.(Vietnam,I went,they > have more guts than Europeans) I will never be sorry I posted this. Being uninformed/uneducated whilst making judgements doesn't make your statements very credible. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 336238 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: mikestraton@webtv.net Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 15:49:09 -0700 Message-ID: <3466-449F12E5-889@storefull-3137.bay.webtv.net> References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> I am amazed by all the knowlegable responses to my question. You guys sure know your stuff ! I will definitely check out the suggestions. Thanks! Mike Article: 336239 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <10362-449ED8C5-672@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> <10363-449EE8F5-168@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Message-ID: <2BEng.3997$Wh.2367@trnddc04> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:01:18 GMT wrote in message news:10363-449EE8F5-168@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net... >I remember now.The Michael Baker Jr.Engineers company 1956 Ford Car did > not have a radio.And it was a six cylinder standard shift.Or,what some > of y'all call a manual shift or stick shift tranasmission.It was a very > deep dark green,as far as the paint job was. >From the car shows you would perceive that all Fords had flatheads, all Mopars had hemis, and all Chevys were souped up at least to some degree. A radioless car with three on the tree? Didn't exist. > cuhulin,the auld deep South > -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com >From even farther south Article: 336240 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <73wng.8405$R26.7423@tornado.southeast.rr.com> <1151264975.619397.185050@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:20:04 GMT But did all these people cross the ocean in the same boat? And what radio station were they listening to? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:Qe-dnRmeVcldlgLZnZ2dnUVZ_vWdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message > >> atwood is Atwater's little brother. also a brother named Atfire. > > You forgot his famous brother Atticus Finch (sp?) from "To Kill a > Mockingbird" > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 336241 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Vacuum Tubes/Electron Tubes Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:20:06 +0200 Message-ID: References: <22632-449B37D8-272@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <1151151315.626096.319540@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1151194747.315297.233180@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <449e6391$0$31642$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <1151233124.080363.54610@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <449e8e6d$0$31646$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> maarten wrote > On-topic content: Anyone know who currently owns the Berlin tube plant > that was bought by Samsung after the wende? Samsung supposedly disposed of > all the old macfhines and company history, to make an efficient production > line for picture tubes. More recently I think I saw a Panasonic picture > tube from the series that was manufactured there. I'm wondering how things > are, and if there is any chance they will survive or be resurrected as a > tube plant after the CRT concept is dumped in favour of Far-East > manufactured TFT panels. Maarten, there is a thread in RMorg (German language): http://www.radiomuseum.org/forum/sterben_der_bildroehren_fabriken.html Panasonic CRTs was manufactured in Esslingen, in the old Lorenz plant. Definitively closed now. Some employees was on hunger strike* for 16 days, fighting to improve the termination pay successfully. They stay there with a picket until the 'Qualification company' is reality. *) hunger strike ended June 23rd. Kind Regards Georg Article: 336242 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "wa2mze(spamless)" <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Soild-State Replacements for Vacuum Tubes? References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:38:35 -0400 d wrote: > Solid state 1L6 - http://www.antiqueradios.com/marc/1l6.html > > Solid state 1U4 - http://antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=45987 > See the last post in the thread! > > > > Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian, wrote: > >> Has anyone collected or been collecting together practical data on >> assembling solid-state modules to replace those vacuum tubes which are >> becoming increasingly hard to find? There is something wrong with the 1L6 replacement schematic. The two zeners in series with pin 2 (1L6 plate) add up to 92 volts. The TO runs off a 90 volt battery, so the diodes will NEVER conduct and Q3 will see no power. I think the zener stack should use slightly lower voltage zeners. As anybody built this thing and measured the voltage at Q3's drain. NO WAY it is 12v with those zeners in the circuit and a 90v B supply. http://www.antiqueradios.com/marc/1l6solid.gif Article: 336243 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: n2cigrz@webtv.net Subject: Re: Attn Wm Sommerwreck Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:38:16 -0700 Message-ID: <17792-449F1E68-901@storefull-3132.bay.webtv.net> References: I tried to email you directly but it bounced back. if you are in the L.A. area and have a working model 11 I might be interested. Email or call me directly. 323-227-0600. Thanks, Mike Article: 336244 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ":-: Ghost Chip :-:" References: Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 16:44:27 -0700 :-: Ghost Chip :-:" wrote in message news:Gfnng.5944$6w.1715@fed1read11... > What is an "Ocean Crossing" type? > I wonder which ocean. > The ocean of time! > GC > Seller ended the auction. Now watch for it under some other creative guise! GC Article: 336245 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <129tnp6af68aq23@corp.supernews.com> <1151264950.749077.35750@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <129ts31fmf0tca7@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: With Apologies to The Byrds and Ecclesiastes Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 17:25:26 -0700 haven't heard Dr.B in a long time... makes great soap, but the wrapper is still the best for a hoot!!! bob in phx "Hagstar" wrote in message news:129ts31fmf0tca7@corp.supernews.com... > > "Peter Wieck" wrote in message > news:1151264950.749077.35750@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> >> Peppermint Castile Soap (Dr. Bonner's) >> > > Dr. Bronner, actually, as in "artic timber wolves raised by tiny dachshund > mother obey her orders with zip and pep because love discipline evolves > faith strength respect uniting all one!". > > John H. > > > Article: 336246 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <1151259515.735823.62570@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1151272204.720684.273610@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Willard Radio A and B Power Unit? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:29:18 -0400 Message-ID: <449f2a5b$0$1008$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Almost makes it one of the first UPS's..... :-) "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1151272204.720684.273610@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > GerryL wrote: >> I haven't seen one of these before. Does anyone have an idea of value >> or demand for it? >> It appears to be in good shape, but dirty (and heavy). >> See pics here >> http://www.putfile.com/vagabond01 >> >> Thanks! >> -Gerry > Looks like a mid- 1920s light socket power AC unit. Possibly uses a 6V > battery to power up filaments for 01A tubes in 5/6 tube 3 dialer-type > sets. Then it charges up the battery. A for filaments, B for B+. I > don't know what it may be worth. Depends on who wants it to power up an > old battery set. The 6v battery would need to be replaced for sure. > Article: 336247 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: With Apologies to The Byrds and Ecclesiastes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:32:30 -0400 Message-ID: <129uap6dn7tipb7@corp.supernews.com> References: <129tnp6af68aq23@corp.supernews.com> <1151264950.749077.35750@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <129ts31fmf0tca7@corp.supernews.com> <1151271818.794820.296020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1151271818.794820.296020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > Biblical reference Ecclesiastes 3:1-8 predates Yes, but the ARRANGEMENT is Pete Seeger's too. The Bible quote doesn't have a refrain, or "swear it's not too late" (for peace that is). John H. John H. Article: 336248 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "wa2mze(spamless)" <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Check out this $10,000 Zenith Trans-Oceanic Radio References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:45:39 -0400 Rick Yerke wrote: > Ebay item #150000896741 > Both $10,000 bidders have 0 feedback > Good luck to the seller to try and collect the money when the auction > ends.Rick How the $%$@! did the bid jump from $125 to $10,000? Ebays software must have been hacked for that to happen. If the current bid is $125 and I bid A gazillion the next bid will only jump up by the bid increment which in this case would probably be to $130. The only way for it to get so high would have been for vencatobrazil to have bid $10300 and for ssroscar to have then bid $10400 or more. BUT vencatobrazil's bid should have shown as $130, THEN $10300. "Something is rotten in the state of Demark" Article: 336249 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "wa2mze(spamless)" <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Check out this $10,000 Zenith Trans-Oceanic Radio References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:46:54 -0400 Rick Yerke wrote: > Ebay item #150000896741 > Both $10,000 bidders have 0 feedback > Good luck to the seller to try and collect the money when the auction > ends.Rick BTW, that if the pictures havn't been doctered, that is one VERY nice looking TO. It SHOULD sell for a few hundred at least. Article: 336250 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 19:45:44 -0500 Message-ID: <21485-449F2E38-162@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <2BEng.3997$Wh.2367@trnddc04> I have owned some flathead Fords and one flathead Dodge car before.I own a 1948 Willys Jeep which has a flathead engine and I own a 1914 Ford T Model car which has a flathead engine.My 1942 Willys World War Two Jeep does not have an engine.I am looking for an engine and radiator for that Jeep. cuhulin Article: 336251 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: d Subject: Re: Soild-State Replacements for Vacuum Tubes? References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:03:14 GMT You should contact the author and discuss it! He has an address showing on that website you could use. Perhaps the error you spotted accounts for the mis-alignment problem he mentions in the article? wa2mze(spamless) wrote: > d wrote: >> Solid state 1L6 - http://www.antiqueradios.com/marc/1l6.html >> >> Solid state 1U4 - http://antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=45987 >> See the last post in the thread! >> >> >> >> Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian, wrote: >> >>> Has anyone collected or been collecting together practical data on >>> assembling solid-state modules to replace those vacuum tubes which are >>> becoming increasingly hard to find? > There is something wrong with the 1L6 replacement schematic. > The two zeners in series with pin 2 (1L6 plate) add up to 92 volts. > The TO runs off a 90 volt battery, so the diodes will NEVER conduct and > Q3 will see no power. I think the zener stack should use slightly lower > voltage zeners. As anybody built this thing and measured the voltage > at Q3's drain. NO WAY it is 12v with those zeners in the circuit and > a 90v B supply. > > http://www.antiqueradios.com/marc/1l6solid.gif Article: 336252 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: Subject: Re: Check out this $10,000 Zenith Trans-Oceanic Radio Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:07:34 -0400 Message-ID: <449f3354$0$1017$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Looks like he figured out how to make my Z-1 repro batteries....as if that's a trade secret....:-) Bill "wa2mze(spamless)" <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:S7Gng.101568$QU3.92328@bignews8.bellsouth.net... > Rick Yerke wrote: >> Ebay item #150000896741 >> Both $10,000 bidders have 0 feedback >> Good luck to the seller to try and collect the money when the auction >> ends.Rick > BTW, that if the pictures havn't been doctered, that is one > VERY nice looking TO. It SHOULD sell for a few hundred at least. Article: 336253 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: POWER SUPPLY FOR 6 VOLT RADIOS References: <1150988800.312473.274400@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <10363-449AB6AA-58@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <8KGng.1325$NP4.740@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 01:27:32 GMT Bill Turner wrote: > I HAVE MADE OVER 50 OF THESE PWR SUPPLIES OVER THE PAST 10 OR SO YEARS. > IN NO CASE HAVE THERE EVER BEEN A PROBLEM SUCH AS YOU STATED. PLEASE > NOTE THAT THE CURRENT TAKEN FROM THE TRANSFORMER IS AT MOST HALF THE > RATED CURRENT AND AS SUCH IS WITHIN THE LIMITATIONS ONE 110 VOLT > PRIMARY. > There may be another concern in that the insulation between one 110V primary and the other 110V primary may not be all that much. Usually one wants about 1400V "hi-pot" quality insulation, and many 110/220V transformers wont have that. Reason for the 1400V is to avoid arc-over from transient spikes. > > > Article: 336254 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Vacuum Tubes/Electron Tubes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:49:04 -0500 Message-ID: <26433-449F3D10-789@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151285208.845822.255020@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I still prefer CRT tv sets and CRT computer monitors,CRT everythings.I guess I am too old a dog to learn any new tricks. cuhulin Article: 336255 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: POWER SUPPLY FOR 6 VOLT RADIOS Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 20:44:19 -0500 Message-ID: <26433-449F3BF3-787@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <26433-449A97C9-178@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Bill,I NEED TO CHECK OUT YOUR WEBSITE. cuhulin Article: 336256 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> <3466-449F12E5-889@storefull-3137.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 02:11:34 GMT Let us know what you come up with, or if we can be of more assistance. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:3466-449F12E5-889@storefull-3137.bay.webtv.net... >I am amazed by all the knowlegable responses to my question. You guys > sure know your stuff ! I will definitely check out the suggestions. > Thanks! Mike > Article: 336257 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" Subject: FS Equip & Books Message-ID: Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:13:40 -0500 Radio Physics Course - Ghirardi 2nd 1942 972pg Some wear Binding good $8 Elec Essentials of Radio Slurzburg Osterheld 1944 529pg Minor wear $10 B&K Mod 1822 Freq Counter $39 8lbs http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/bk.jpg HP 606A Freq Gen The filter caps are loose and hanging on there wires but looks good Overall Untested. The band turret turns smothly and all controls are free. Face is nice and all knobs are there. It should be an easy restore and I think it'll be fine. $65 about 50lb http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/hp.jpg Prices do not include shipping. shipping is from 55992 -- Regards B.H. Souther, MN USA Radios- R-5000, NRD525,SP-600,SX-28,Eton E1 Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Remove your HAT to reply directly brianehillHAT@charter.net Article: 336258 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:11:47 -0500 Message-ID: <26434-449F4263-156@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <2BEng.3997$Wh.2367@trnddc04> 1956 Ford cars,radios were optional equipment.In 1956 and many,many years before,for all cars and trucks sold in America.So were heaters.Before that,windshild wipers.My 1914 Ford T Model car has an optional old hand crank windshield wiper.There were all kinds of optional equipment/accessory gadgets available for starting hand crank engines while sitting in the drivers seat.There is a certain profile you must use while standing in front of hand crank vehicles.If you aren't on your toes,you can get seriously hurt.I can crank up my 1914 Ford T Model car,let it warm up and then shut it off and kick the front wheels (with ignition on) and it will start up again all by it'self. See that automatic transmission in your vehicle? who do y'all think pioneered that? cuhulin Article: 336259 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Check out this $10,000 Zenith Trans-Oceanic Radio Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 02:26:18 GMT "wa2mze(spamless)" <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:H6Gng.101560$QU3.67559@bignews8.bellsouth.net... > Rick Yerke wrote: >> Ebay item #150000896741 >> Both $10,000 bidders have 0 feedback >> Good luck to the seller to try and collect the money when the auction >> ends.Rick > How the $%$@! did the bid jump from $125 to $10,000? Ebays software > must have been hacked for that to happen. If the current bid > is $125 and I bid A gazillion the next bid will only jump up by the > bid increment which in this case would probably be to $130. > The only way for it to get so high would have been for > vencatobrazil to have bid $10300 and for ssroscar to have then > bid $10400 or more. BUT vencatobrazil's bid should have shown > as $130, THEN $10300. "Something is rotten in the state of Demark" The bid results follow eBay standards. It would have showed $130, up until the next bid came in. eBay's proxy bid system will only display the highest relevant bid. jim menning Article: 336260 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: POWER SUPPLY FOR 6 VOLT RADIOS Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:37:47 -0500 Message-ID: <22891-449F487B-833@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <8KGng.1325$NP4.740@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> I WOULD RECOMMEND YOU NOT BUILD ONE OF THESE. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 336261 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:40:39 -0500 Message-ID: <26433-449F4927-794@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: You can buy a new one,brand spanking new.They are available.Scratch around,do some searches for them. cuhulin,the auld deep South Article: 336262 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Vacuum Tubes/Electron Tubes Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:46:05 -0500 Message-ID: <26433-449F4A6D-795@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151286242.382444.57680@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> CRT ''tv'' Radar was a necessary propietary thingy.I once read a book about the Magnetron. Yeah,and there was a U.S.A.Airfield in England (or was it Germany?) and those nails in that Aircraft Hanger got red hot! and started popping. cuhulin Article: 336263 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: (OT) Any Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:50:50 -0500 Message-ID: <26433-449F4B8A-796@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> of y'all live in or near Parkersburg West By God Virginia? cuhulin Article: 336264 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: <8dhu925ljbovsbuvfl0mubaufcc1c1o9vu@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Is it just me, or... Message-ID: <48Ing.1927$TP1.1832@fe05.lga> Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 22:03:27 -0500 "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:8dhu925ljbovsbuvfl0mubaufcc1c1o9vu@4ax.com... > Kind of strange for the first picture of this radio. As they say, "Sex > sells". > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140001155437&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1 > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Settle down Blacksmith :) BH Article: 336265 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Soild-State Replacements for Vacuum Tubes? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 21:53:50 -0500 Message-ID: <22894-449F4C3E-7@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: AND I MAKE REPLACEMENTS FOR THE 50, IL6, AND 50A1 (SOLID STATE) . I HAVE A 1629 WITH AN ADAPTOR WHICH WORKS AS A 6P5 BUT WITH A DIFFERENT TYPE DISPLAY. BY THE WAY MARK, I MADE THE 1629 ADAPTOR WITH WIRE LEADS AS YOU SUGGESTED, I HAVE SOLD ABOUT 25 OF THEM, NONE TO YOU. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 336266 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <73wng.8405$R26.7423@tornado.southeast.rr.com> <1151264975.619397.185050@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1151288179.557606.149200@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? Message-ID: <2lIng.13557$R26.10653@tornado.southeast.rr.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 03:17:18 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote in message news:1151288179.557606.149200@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > who would give a son a middle name of Atwater anyway? > It was his mothers maiden name. Ron Article: 336267 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> <7gxng.5586$8i2.8030@wagner.videotron.net> <4dSdncTRMM-vVwPZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Message-ID: <4kJng.10572$sM4.64222@weber.videotron.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:24:47 -0400 "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:Gsqdnbavwv5tYAPZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Explain why some of the best sounding speakers on the market >> are using doped paper cones? "Plastic" alone isn't much better >> than paper as for break-ups and can create multiple resonances. >> Sure they are stiffer, but don't sound better, unless you have >> limited hearing. > > Name some of these "better" speakers. And explain why they're > better-sounding. (That is, to the ear.) Do your homework William, use Google if need be. They're all over the place. Wait, try Tannoy, prestige series for a start...Or Precision studio monitors or... > There's nothing wrong my hearing (other than the usual gradual HF loss). I hope so (the loss that is). I'd rather be blind then deaf. > You're willfully ignoring my remarks about lossiness. Plastics are > generally > deader than paper. It's a moot point. Besides, you did not answer my other two questions: What are the mechanical and electrical specs which could not be met with a modern speaker for your KLH 11 ? > Around 1980, Infinity introduced speakers with polypropylene woofers. The > improvement in sound quality was plainly audible. This is physics, not > imagination. Audiophools aren't call that for no reasons. They reinvent the physics everyday. They "hear" things...Heck, they even have unidirectional wiring... If you read what Infinity did in 1983 was more than just replacing the paper cone with polypropylene. That is my point, which you carefully avoided. There is more than just "the cone" in a speaker. If you heard a Tannoy prestige speaker (Westminster or GRF for example), you don't want to know what the speakers are made of. Just if they'll fit in your living room... > It's not a matter of taste. Plastic drivers tend to be less colored. And > I've done live recording, so I know what I'm talking about. We all did that, one day or another. > Then you haven't heard any really good speakers. Ever heard QUADs, or This is going nowhere. Now you're talking electrostatics, which totally lacks bass unless you couple them with a sub-woofer BTW... And I'll bet you never heard a plasma tweeter, THAT is heaven, or as close can be for a music lover. > Bud died a year or so ago. Fried uses doped-paper woofers in some > speakers, > but one of them has a woven-fiberglass woofer. Yeah, and some Japanese companies are working (and some actually selling) wood cone speakers which are supposed to be _the_ thing...I haven't heard them yet. The cones aren't doped, they are drunken...As they use Sake to soften the pulp to ease cone forming... I say listen and buy the speakers that gives you goose bumps. But listen to the speaker >from behind a curtain (figure of speech) so you do not know what you're listening to. But I only speak from experience. I remember listening to a classical "recital" where I attended the original live recording and had the chance to listen to the recording the same day on my sound system and on a sound system that cost 50 times more than mine...But couldn't justify the difference as there was not 100,000$ worth of difference...or precision....or high-end...or whatever you call it. BTW, I was offered a pair of Quads moons ago for a very decent price...I still have my Tannoys... Not because the Quads weren't good (I was even positively biased then...), but they never gave me goose bumps... Syl Article: 336268 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <26433-449F4B8A-796@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: (OT) Any Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 04:45:06 GMT Is this guys computer suffering from "idiot savant"? Omer "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:oLIng.3231$uo.2044@trnddc07... >I live about 1,000 miles south of there, in that great faraway land known >as Florida. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > wrote in message > news:26433-449F4B8A-796@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... >> of y'all live in or near Parkersburg West By God Virginia? >> cuhulin >> > > Article: 336269 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: nice RCA 1935 console, not mine attn Menning! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 04:54:12 GMT "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:QcadnZKJddEB_QLZnZ2dnUVZ_oadnZ2d@comcast.com... > this is a very worthy RCA to consider... 1935 year, possibly the C15-3 or > C13-1 , I'd have to look it up, but a very nice radio either way. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-RCA-Victor-Console-Radio-in-Wood-Cabinet_W0QQitemZ280001736818QQihZ018QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > located in Central Wisconsin, and "pick up only" so it should go cheap! > > Jim Menning??? > > Mark Oppat > > > Thanks Mark, I'll keep an eye on it. It may make good trading stock for Lansing. jim menning Article: 336270 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:43:15 -0500 Message-ID: <376-449F65E3-728@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <4kJng.10572$sM4.64222@weber.videotron.net> There is always a lot of old records over there at the Goodwill store,I see them all the time.Used to be a guy who used to have a booth at the old Jackson steel building fleamarket.He used to go to the same junk shops I used to go to.He knew which old records to look for.Some of them old records are worth a lot of money. cuhulin Article: 336271 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:57:25 -0500 Message-ID: <376-449F6935-729@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: The so-called ''new generation'' nowdays are all about ipods and they all look just as stark blank Stupid and Dumb as those ipods too.I do not own,nor do I ever wish to own an ipod.In fact,I wouldn't have an ipod if you was to try to send me one for free. cuhulin Article: 336272 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Is it just me, or... Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:05:49 -0500 Message-ID: <377-449F6B2D-132@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <8dhu925ljbovsbuvfl0mubaufcc1c1o9vu@4ax.com> Well,''mine'' sure doesn't sell.But then,,,,,, awwwwww,,,,,,,, forget it. cuhulin Article: 336273 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: (OT) Any Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:02:46 -0500 Message-ID: <376-449F6A76-730@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: A buddy who was in ARADCOM (U.S.Army) in my unit at Scott Air Force Base,Illinois in 1963.I was wondering if he is back at Parkersburg,West By God Virginia? cuhulin Article: 336274 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Check out this $10,000 Zenith Trans-Oceanic Radio Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:10:26 -0500 Message-ID: <377-449F6C42-133@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: There is no (I repeat,NO!) Zenith in the World worth that kind of money! P.T.Barnum was right. cuhulin Article: 336275 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Check out this $10,000 Zenith Trans-Oceanic Radio Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:12:47 -0500 Message-ID: <377-449F6CCF-134@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: In that case,I think my Bogalusa is worth fifty million dollars.And I wont ship. cuhulin Article: 336276 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Check out this $10,000 Zenith Trans-Oceanic Radio Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:17:46 -0500 Message-ID: <376-449F6DFA-731@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: It is probally worth eighty dollars and only if it works as good as new.I wouldn't give him more than seventy dollars,take it or leave it. cuhulin Article: 336277 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Vacuum Tubes/Electron Tubes Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:20:28 -0500 Message-ID: <377-449F6E9C-135@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151290804.070470.12480@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Now I am fixin to cut the light and get me beauty sleep. cuhulin Article: 336278 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Terribly Troubling Tripletts........ Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:37:05 -0700 Message-ID: Pictures in Binaries. In my travels over the past couple of years, I have acquired three similar large VOM-type multimeters made by Triplett. I have a model 630, 631, and one made for Ma Bell by Triplett. Each one is a little different, but all of them have the same problem. The ohms function is either intermittent or completely non-functional on most of the ranges. Voltage and current measurement capability is fine on all three meters. All of the meters show signs of corrosion or oxidation at the top of the range/function wafer switch assembly (this is interesting because two of the meters show no signs of battery leakage at all). Voltage and current measurement capability is fine on all three meters. I have hit this switch with an ohmmeter and followed the path of the circuitry with a schematic and have determined that the troubles are somewhere in the switch. The range/function switch appears to be a classic multi-element rotary wafer switch, but the contacts to the switch are sealed, which makes the usual de-oxit cleaning all but impossible without taking the whole switch assembly apart. The switch assembly appears to held on to the front of the meter with the slotted nut shown in the photos. What tool do I use to get this nut off? Is it even worth trying to do it? -Scott Article: 336279 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Phil Witt Subject: Re: Terribly Troubling Tripletts........ Message-ID: References: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 06:32:04 -0500 I usuall manage to get these types off with long nosers. For stubborn cases you might manufacture a spanner wrench by sacrificing a hollow shaft nutdriver. Article: 336280 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Help: I need this unobtainium control Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:34:10 +0900 Message-ID: Dual control, 500K ohm audio taper, SPST switch. Shaft length 2". As you can see it's got really oddball shafts for each control. http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Control.jpg The e-mail is good. TIA -- Over 5 decades of great hits Full Spectrum Radio http://fsr.jadephoenix.org Article: 336281 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Terribly Troubling Tripletts........ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:43:47 GMT I don't know what these retainers are called, and I'm sure there are tools out there that are made for them -- but until I find them, I generally use long nose pliers. On stubborn ones I use a screwdriver and a hammer to break it loose. Yes, I see these on car radios all the time -- so if there IS a tool, I'd like to know where to find one. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:e7o2ra0emn@news4.newsguy.com... > Pictures in Binaries. > > In my travels over the past couple of years, I have acquired three similar > large VOM-type multimeters made by Triplett. I have a model 630, 631, and > one made for Ma Bell by Triplett. Each one is a little different, but all > of them have the same problem. The ohms function is either intermittent or > completely non-functional on most of the ranges. > Voltage and current measurement capability is fine on all three meters. > > All of the meters show signs of corrosion or oxidation at the top of the > range/function wafer switch assembly (this is interesting because two of > the meters show no signs of battery leakage at all). Voltage and current > measurement capability is fine on all three meters. I have hit this switch > with an ohmmeter and followed the path of the circuitry with a schematic > and have determined that the troubles are somewhere in the switch. > > The range/function switch appears to be a classic multi-element rotary > wafer switch, but the contacts to the switch are sealed, which makes the > usual de-oxit cleaning all but impossible without taking the whole switch > assembly apart. > > The switch assembly appears to held on to the front of the meter with the > slotted nut shown in the photos. What tool do I use to get this nut off? > Is it even worth trying to do it? > > -Scott Article: 336282 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Interesting eBay service -- not mine Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:41:49 GMT Okay, it seems everyone else makes references to eBay items and comments on them, now I suppose it's my turn. I never realized you could actually advertise a SERVICE on eBay as an item. This fellow is offering a bid to restore a Corvette radio: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1958-1962-CORVETTE-WONDERBAR-RADIO-RESTORATION-W-WARR_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ80741QQihZ002QQitemZ4653584469QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW No, I do not recognize this fellow, so I can't comment on his reputation except to say he seems to have great feedback. I'll say this much -- it seems pretty scary to have somebody else set the price on a radio you haven't seen yet. This guy could lose his shirt. The reason I was looking in the first place is because I have a 55 Chevy E-Series whose wonderbar mechanism is toast -- somebody did a major hatchet job on it and it is unrepairable, even for conversion. I'd like to find a non-working 55-56 wonderbar cheap, just for the tuning mechanism. I also see where somebody is putting up NEW repro wonderbar radios with a "Buy It Now" of over $700, when the factory retail is $650. Even that is high in my opinion, but of course this price reflects the tooling for all of those special repro chrome parts, etc. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 336283 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1151172426.084401.141140@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1526-449EB099-814@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:48:51 GMT In article <1526-449EB099-814@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net>, goodguyy@webtv.net says... > > >Gary the only way to get a fair deal on that model Zenith is to find one >at some yard sale or junk store cheap . I want one too but wont pay >thousands just dont need it that bad. I dont want to resell it either . >That kind of money goes to food and dentists . > Not picking on Ken here... just on semantics a bit.. actually Ken has it about right.... "Fair Price" on a Walton is the price that would be paid if the radio were offered in a venue where a large number of collectors of old radios were available to purchase the set.... thats a "Fair Price" and on this model it would be from $1400 for an unrestored slightly ugly 7J232 Non-Eye tube model your purchasing to get the cabinet.. Chassis could be missing or a rustbucket junker and that price would stay the same... What your describing as fair deal ... is a steal deal.. or a Cheap Deal... from a yard sale or an auction someplace where there aren't any quantity of collectors.. and the persons selling the radio have no idea what its worth in todays market... I am not saying that the radio is all that great a radio... they are NOT ... a good .. restored properly Philco 16B ... partiularily the 4 band version ... it will make a 12 toober walton look like its going backwards ... much better bandspread and repeatability of tuning and it will just plain suck a lot more signal out of the air than the 12 toob walton... Rca 9T and 10T like Mark said... same bit... super super radios... just not as highly collectable and pricey as Waltons... John Article: 336284 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Atwater Kent model 30?? Message-ID: References: <73wng.8405$R26.7423@tornado.southeast.rr.com> <1151264975.619397.185050@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:42:05 GMT On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 23:20:04 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >But did all these people cross the ocean in the same boat? And what radio >station were they listening to? > > Probably some pirate station. Brian McAllister Sarasota, Florida email bkm at oldtech dot net and@hope.thespambots.die Article: 336285 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 07:45:23 -0600 Message-ID: <17208-449FE4F3-270@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> References: William you were comparing console phonos to portables .. hardly fair . If i were playing records all the time and serious about protecting the records from ware i would either get a nice turntable and hook it to a small amp and good speakers . If it had to be portable or in one box i would get a nice turntable easy on records and some sort of amp & a couple nice small spekers , some wood and make one The school record players sound good in general but could sound better wit a better speaker if your picky . Article: 336286 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Northe Osbrink Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes References: <1Lxng.7953$Wl.4120@trnddc01> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:11:47 GMT All, Wow! It looks _really_ interesting. This might work to provide a "machine translation," which may or may not be comprehensible. Unfortunately when I tried it, I received a message saying that too many people were currently running translations, but I intend to try again from time to time: Go to: Scroll down and paste the following URL into the Web Translate" window: Be sure to select the Web Translate button. Hope that it works 8') Northe, N6KO Article: 336287 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: Check out this $10,000 Zenith Trans-Oceanic Radio References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:26:31 GMT Rick Yerke wrote: > In article , "Gary Tayman" wrote: > >>I don't know if it's worth over ten grand, but it is indeed a nice looking >>radio. Also, if my memory serves me, isn't that a rare color for the case? >>If that's original, that would put it in the same league as the military >>version of the H-500. It is indeed worth something, but still not that >>much. >> >> > > It is not original,it has been recovered and it should be worth less than an > original to any long time radio collector.Rick Is something really rare or wrong about the color? I have a Y600 that seems to be identical in color. I can put a photo on the binaries if anyone cares. Bill Jeffrey Article: 336288 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Extavaganza July 7&8, who is going??? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:29:32 GMT In article , blacksmith1@wowway.com says... > > >I'm going. It's good to live in Michigan! >Blacksmith >wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom We will be there... same 4 spaces as the last several years. Bringing a collection of consoles that need new homes.. too crowded here! John k9uwa Article: 336289 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sofa Slug Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes References: <1Lxng.7953$Wl.4120@trnddc01> Message-ID: <5bSng.159830$F_3.54769@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:29:21 GMT Northe Osbrink wrote: > All, > > Wow! It looks _really_ interesting. > > This might work to provide a "machine translation," which may or may not > be comprehensible. Unfortunately when I tried it, I received a message > saying that too many people were currently running translations, but I > intend to try again from time to time: > > Go to: > > > > > Scroll down and paste the following URL into the Web Translate" window: > > > > Be sure to select the Web Translate button. > > Hope that it works 8') > > Northe, > N6KO > Or just go here: http://snipurl.com/sb3x Article: 336290 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Extavaganza July 7&8, who is going??? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1150375910.526291.40730@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:31:45 GMT In article , caradio@verizon.net says... > > > >Southwest Florida is very ripe for such an event. Like I said, I'm working >on it. > >Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Yo Gary .. try to get the winter one back into March instead of April so we can attend.. lots of fun yakking with the group.. and maybe we buy a few radios! John k9uwa.. Snowbird Article: 336291 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Extavaganza July 7&8, who is going??? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1150391954.916842.47330@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:35:07 GMT In article <1150391954.916842.47330@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, w8fsa@arrl.net says... > > >I will certainly be there on Friday and Friday evening. I regret >missing >the event last year due to circumstances beyond my control. The >Philco theme is perfect since I'm in the process of restoring a 37-116. >I will stop by your booth to say hi. I also look forward to seeing Mike >Dale, Dan Gutowski and John Goller to let him know about my progress >with a restoration on a GE G-106 that I picked up from him about three >years ago. > >Mark Goodwin >MARC Member Major ReWire project on that one to be sure!... MAJOR Rubber Wire! Sure hope that whole timer gizmo works when your done with it! John Article: 336292 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Value of Tubes... References: <1151319964.784324.265150@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 11:07:19 -0400 If you fill a tube caddy with them you can get $100-$150 on eBay. Ken retrodepot@bellnet.ca wrote: > I've just aquired a huge box full of tubes still in their boxes, > (radio, tv, etc..). I've gone through them and have kept the ones I'm > familiar with for jukeboxes, (5U4 rectifiers, 6SK7's, OA2, 6X4, 6973, > 6L6GB, etc.). Alot of these tubes I don't recognise. Some are > transmitter tubes, (big), I've been told. I've tried scanning the net > for value of these but don't know what to start with, there are so > many! Any tubes needed out there, rare ones that I might have. Send me > your wants lists. I'm not looking to make money, just trying to help > someone in need yet at the same time, don't want to be taken for a > ride. > Cheers, Steve > Article: 336293 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Soild-State Replacements for Vacuum Tubes? From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:44:42 GMT On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:24:41 GMT, DeserTBoB wrote: >> Has anyone collected or been collecting together practical data on assembling solid-state modules to replace those vacuum tubes which are becoming increasingly hard to find? > > You're about 30 years too late. Teledyne already did this with the > FETrons back in the '70s, replacing common minatures like 12AX7s and > 6AK5s among others. Well, it would be really nice to buy them newly made, but I was just hoping for a compilation of schematics. Few of us are prepared to join that Polish fellow in making vacuum tubes in the kitchen. Article: 336294 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:35:30 -0500 Message-ID: <22632-449FFEC2-873@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151324172.683089.160880@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Gaslight? I love that old,old Tin Pan Alley Music. cuhulin,the auld deep South Article: 336295 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 10:44:11 -0500 Message-ID: <22632-44A000CB-891@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <17208-449FE4F3-270@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> Among some of my old record players,one of them is made for playing animal calls.It runs on batteries.I think I will give it to that Bell South woman because she loves nothing better than to get out and go Hunting and Fishing.Yeah,I will give it to her.I bought it for a couple of dollars at a Goodwill store years ago.Somebody might as well get some good use out of it.Last Friday,she left for her old home town area of Natchez in such a hurry,she left that empty Georgia Boot cardboard box sitting in her driveway (next door) by the front sidewalk.You just have to love a woman like that. cuhlin,the auld deep South Article: 336296 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: Soild-State Replacements for Vacuum Tubes? Date: 26 Jun 2006 16:11:11 GMT Message-ID: References: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," (Mc-Kiernan@bogus-subdomain.worldnet.att.net) writes: > On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:24:41 GMT, DeserTBoB wrote: > >>> Has anyone collected or been collecting together practical data on assembling solid-state modules to replace those vacuum tubes which are becoming increasingly hard to find? >> >> You're about 30 years too late. Teledyne already did this with the >> FETrons back in the '70s, replacing common minatures like 12AX7s and >> 6AK5s among others. > > Well, it would be really nice to buy them newly made, but I was just hoping for a compilation of schematics. Few of us are prepared to join that Polish fellow in making vacuum tubes in the kitchen. The big interest did seem to be thirty years or so ago. There were those commercial substitutes, I seem to recall at least one other company besides Teledyne that made them, but they only made a limited selection, ie a handful of tubes that saw enough use that there might be demand. And while I forget the details, there was quite a detailed letter in QST about one ham's experience with the Teledyne replacements (after there was a brief bit about them in the magazine) saying something about how they were designed for specific use, and if you strayed from that use, they weren't so great. There were various articles about solid-stating tube equipment back then. Often, they'd be about modifying the gear for solid state devices, which meant using the chassis and main components, but often quite a bit of rework (because bipolars didn't fit the tube transformers well, and because once people were modifying, they decided to fix things like weak audio, which often meant using an audio output IC to replace the original chain). Some tried to cook up generic tubes, the ones that seemed most successful seemed to be based on understanding of tubes and a real attempt to emulate their behaviour. But much of the work seemed to be about making plugins that were specific to a piece of equipment. So someone didn't cook up a generic 12AU7 replacement, they cooked up a 12AU7 replacement for that specific stage in a Drake transceiver, and a different replacement for that other 12AU7. This was sort of a hybrid, in that it didn't mess up the gear but one was dealing with the surrounding circuitry for each tube. That said, I once solid-stated a 1-1.5MHz Collins PTO merely by soldering an FET to the tube socket, and running it off +12v. I don't think I even needed to do anything about the plate resistor (or maybe it was an RF choke to begin with). Michael Article: 336297 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: With Apologies to The Byrds and Ecclesiastes From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <129tnp6af68aq23@corp.supernews.com> <1151291408.126171.221360@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <2dUng.256704$Fs1.233385@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:47:58 GMT On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 03:10:08 GMT, Steven wrote: >> Actually by Bob Dylan. > > Actually adapted by Pete Seeger from the book of Ecclesiates. FWIW, the first response of some or all of the Byrds to the lyrics was that they were too dogmatic. Article: 336298 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> <7gxng.5586$8i2.8030@wagner.videotron.net> <4dSdncTRMM-vVwPZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <4kJng.10572$sM4.64222@weber.videotron.net> <1151300021.510301.104060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <2MydnZfmDtjtUgLZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Message-ID: <8aUng.25048$sM4.120366@weber.videotron.net> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:44:28 -0400 "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:2MydnZfmDtjtUgLZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com... >> And I'll bet you never heard a plasma tweeter, THAT is heaven, >> or as close can be for a music lover. > > I worked for a store that sold the Hill Plasmatronics speaker. (Or tried > to. > No one would buy it.) We played the owner's live mastertapes through it. > All > I can say is... > > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > And that's an understatement. To quote Fluffy: "All else is gaslight." (Or > something like that.) -hehe...They worked somewhat differently from the original Dukane but the idea was similar. They never sold most probably because they were way too expensive at the time...I wonder how many are out there, waiting to be fired again...? You know what you can do if you find a pair ? Send'em here.... Syl Article: 336299 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Carter, k8vt" Subject: Re: Interesting eBay service -- not mine References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:55:15 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > I never realized you could actually advertise a SERVICE on eBay as an item. Yup, it is done. A few months ago, I had need of repair on a Fluke 87 DVM. A fellow in Florida was offering repair service on eBay for just 87s (not 85s or 83s) at a fixed price. Sent it to him and interestingly enough, his fix was a complete new motherboard. BTW, don't know if my case was unique or if he just had a barrel full of 87 motherboards! ;-) Article: 336300 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: With Apologies to The Byrds and Ecclesiastes From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <129tnp6af68aq23@corp.supernews.com> <1151340996.719197.303410@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:01:29 GMT On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 16:56:36 GMT, Steven wrote: >>>> Actually by Bob Dylan. >>> >>> Actually adapted by Pete Seeger from the book of Ecclesiates. >> >> FWIW, the first response of some or all of the Byrds to the lyrics was that they were too dogmatic. > > And no one's getting fat except Mama Cass... She's been losing weight for almost 32 years now, albeit that the decline has tapered-off in recent years. Article: 336301 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: With Apologies to The Byrds and Ecclesiastes From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <129tnp6af68aq23@corp.supernews.com> <1151341447.372592.276000@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:09:10 GMT On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:04:07 GMT, Steven wrote: > I just love Creeque Alley (sp) You spelled "Alley" correctly. (FWIW, you also spelled "Creeque" correctly.) Article: 336302 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: With Apologies to The Byrds and Ecclesiastes From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <129tnp6af68aq23@corp.supernews.com> <1151334647.238601.163120@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:13:04 GMT On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 15:10:47 GMT, toxcrusadr wrote: > However, Dylan did write Mr. Tambourine Man which was performed by the > Byrds. Didn't they also sing The Mighty Quinn? Also a Dylan creation. I don't believe that they ever covered "Quinn" in a performance whose publication was authorized. (I have no clue about bootlegs.) Article: 336303 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Soild-State Replacements for Vacuum Tubes? Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:03:05 -0500 Message-ID: <21484-44A01349-992@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <44A0097B.1ADD59AF@earthlink.net> Many moons ago,I read about some 'adapters'' that can take transistors to replace vacuum tubes.I also read about some blue tubes that do not produce much heat. cuhulin,the auld deep South Article: 336304 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Check out this $10,000 Zenith Trans-Oceanic Radio Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:16:41 -0500 Message-ID: <21484-44A01679-993@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: Doin what comes natchurly,,,,,, Back in the 1950',there was a family (I love you,Susie,wherever you arrrrrre) that lived next door to me.Jabe Connerly drove an old four wheel drive Jeep pickup truck and he owned a gas station.He had an old World War Two era Zenith Trans-Oceanic stored in his garage.What did I know about such kinds of radios when I was a pre-teen kid? I was only ''interested'' in Susie. cuhulin,the auld dog in the auld deep South Article: 336305 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:28:10 -0500 Message-ID: <21485-44A0192A-183@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151342056.479787.76870@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> She is desperatly seeking a boyfriend.She is thirty eight years old and very,very smart.(she is a tech troubleshooter at Bell South.Me t sixty four years old) metinks I am too old.And too chiken anyway. cuhulin,too chicken Article: 336306 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:20:56 -0500 Message-ID: <12576-44A02588-208@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: I give the Polish guy a lot of credit.He is doing his thingy and making a differnce. cuhulin,the crazy auld deep South Article: 336307 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 13:23:51 -0500 Message-ID: <12575-44A02637-954@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151343846.143564.108700@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> tox,you won't drag me down a path about Polish jokes.Won't happen. cuhulin Article: 336308 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 12:41:37 -0700 Message-ID: <17378-44A03871-608@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> References: <1Lxng.7953$Wl.4120@trnddc01> >From Paul P: >This guy is making his own tubes in his >kitchen! > >http://www.fonar.com.pl/a_index.htm Check out this guy's site - http://home.earthlink.net/~lenyr/index.html and scroll down to "Homemade vacuum tube diode" and "Homemade vacuum tube triode". Lotsa other neat stuff too. oc Article: 336309 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Interesting eBay service -- not mine References: <1151329009.475462.77950@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:11:46 GMT radio@bill-collins.net wrote: > I've seen a lot of listings like that for various repair services. Sure > he's taking a risk that the radio will be difficult to restore, He may just give that customer a new radio with maybe the old cover attached. He may have acquired a supply of NOS radios for less than the repair price. But the easy fixes mean that he need not deplete his NOS stock. Article: 336310 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Mechanical Amplification Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:19:17 -0400 Message-ID: <12a0jqvnfok0m59@corp.supernews.com> Here's something I figured out that's likely common knowledge to old record people. When they first cut records using a soft wax, and then created a hard "plastic" copy record out of it, the needle could be forced harder by the new harder record material than it ever could using the wax original. SO, thorough the mechanical advantage of the needle holder's lever arm the reproducer's diaphragm can be made to move as far or farther than the original cutting head's diaphragm moved. The extra energy is provided by the turntable forcing the needle through the grooves and therefore side to side. John H. Article: 336311 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: I need this unobtainium control Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 06:55:25 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1151356253.649744.52970@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:1151356253.649744.52970@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Mark Oppat wrote: >> having a concentric serrated shaft is unique to Japanese stuff. My >> replacement control systems here dont offer that specifically but maybe >> you >> could modify your knobs to use the type shafts I have (auto radio types >> primarily) that are for concentric shaft. >> >> What is bad on the control you have? If its the AC switch, I can often >> replace that... > > On Brenda's control, the carbon track appears to have gone south on > both pots. Would she be able to epoxy the shafts from the original > control over the replacement's shafts, which I assume are smaller? > > She says the switch is riveted on, and I find that hard to believe, > since I have a radio with the similar pot/switch combo and it looks > exactly the same. The switch is actually glued on on my example, > though.... > > Steph. To answer both questions: 1) It's out of a National radio (Japanese brand radio, built in Burma (Myanmar). 2) I get tired of people not believing that I can tell whether something is done one way or another. The link below shows clearly that the switch WAS RIVETED ON. It also shows clearly that the pot body was rusted to hell. http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Control_Apart.jpg Article: 336312 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Mechanical Amplification Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 14:21:21 -0700 Message-ID: <24107-44A05DE1-53@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> References: <12a0jqvnfok0m59@corp.supernews.com> Yonny: That certainly does make sense, tho i'd never thought of it that way before. The loudness of an windup machine can be amazing. The amplitude of acoustic energy coming out is certainly a hellava lot higher than the energy that drove the recording stylus. Reakon you could call it "mechanical amplification with infinitely variable delay". Subject: Re: Mechanical Amplification References: <12a0jqvnfok0m59@corp.supernews.com> <24107-44A05DE1-53@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <88_ng.4279$oa1.14@news02.roc.ny> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:32:20 GMT Bill Sheppard wrote: >Yonny: > That certainly does make sense, tho i'd never thought of it >that way before. The loudness of an windup machine can be amazing. The >amplitude of acoustic energy coming out is certainly a hellava lot >higher than the energy that drove the recording stylus. Reakon you could >call it "mechanical amplification with infinitely variable delay". :-) > >oc > > > In the early days of the telephone there was an amplifier that was made from a earphone (receiver) and a carbon microphone. Bill K7NOM Article: 336314 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Silvertone References: <1151355877.494647.225720@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:41:56 -0400 Mallory says mod 1907. Ken term wrote: > I have a silvertone with a custom cabinet and need help identifying the > model number. > The chassis number is 104218. It has 5 tubes (80, 42, 75, 6D6, 6A7). > Any help would be great. > Article: 336315 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:38:31 -0500 Message-ID: <22891-44A06FF7-951@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: I was at the Goodwill store last Friday afternoon.That Sears Silvertone Stereo FM - AM Radio Phonograph Model 8067 Early American was still sitting there. cuhulin Article: 336316 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1151172426.084401.141140@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1526-449EB099-814@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> <1151361808.969337.192400@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 18:51:23 -0500 Message-ID: <44a065b1$0$9874$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1151361808.969337.192400@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > So what's the draw of this radio? I've never heard one, but from what > I can see, and from what I've heard it doesn't sound all that great. > It's not made all that well, or is it? Is it simply because it was on > that STUPID TV show about the Waltons? Oh wow, like it's the exact one > that appeared on the show. Please!! Well, yeah. That fame has been going on since the show was new. In the '70s all radios of the '30s were just junk; radio collectors only cared about AK breadboards and other '20s sets. When one radio gets enough exposure to create some demand, the demand feeds itself, prices go up and that's where we are now. There's nothing wrong with the "Waltons", they aren't any worse than any other Zenith. The complaint people always have is that you can buy another brand of radio just as nice or better for much less money. I don't know why they bother. Life isn't logical. > A question. If the Walton's were so poor from the depression, how > could they afford such a set? Even back then wasn't it comparably > expensive to most other comparable radios of it's era? I think they > should have made John Boy go out and wind some wire around a Quacker > oats box and build a crystal set. It's just a mindless sitcom. How much effort do you think they needed to put in to ensure historical accuracy? Only radio enthusiasts cared, and there weren't enough of those to waste the energy finding a "correct" set. jm2c paul -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 336317 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1151356539.384725.239100@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: IF trannies on radios Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:08:14 GMT There are two IF's in the radio. Both were made at the same time, both were put into service at the same time, and both have lived under the same conditions, in terms of heat and moisture over the years. So it is assumed that both might go bad at the same time. However that is not necessarily the case. If the silver mica disease is the result of a DC bias voltage, the voltages are not the same, so one may fail over the other. If the caps happened to come from different lots, there may be a difference in their construction. There are other factors that can affect this. When we rebuild a radio, we usually replace all the paper caps out of force of habit. Why? Because they are prone to failure from moisture over time. But if we were to check each cap individually as I've done, you'll find that some of them are bad, some are a little leaky, and some test just fine. In my experience I've found that the higher the rated voltage, the more prone it is to failure -- but there are always exceptions to the rule. In the case of micas, they are typically much more reliable and generally they don't get replaced just because they're there -- unless there's reason to believe they may be going bad. It's totally up to you as to whether you should change the others because one failed. If it were me, I'd leave the others alone. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:1151356539.384725.239100@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > OK. Is this normal. > > You get a radio with the crackly IF tranny syndrome. Replace the > silver mica caps in the 1st IF, but leave the second one alone. > > The radio works fine after that (and the requisite realignment).. > > What gives? I thought that if one went bad, the other was sure to be > bad too. But this is the second time it's happened, where I just > repaired the first IFT and left the second one alone....static cured. > :-/ > > -- > Steph > Article: 336318 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <12a0jqvnfok0m59@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Mechanical Amplification Message-ID: <4M_ng.4804$il.4412@trnddc03> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:14:56 GMT It's all part of the overall design, where experimentation determined the optimum fulcrum position of the needle/diaphragm assembly. If less movement of the diaphragm, seemingly there would be less resistance of the needle against the record, and needles and records would both last longer. However with more movement the sound would be louder. I suppose if I were a record player company in the 1910's, I'd opt for the lesser movement and compensate with a larger horn. But what they did is what they did. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Hagstar" wrote in message news:12a0jqvnfok0m59@corp.supernews.com... > Here's something I figured out that's likely common knowledge to old > record people. When they first cut records using a soft wax, and then > created a hard "plastic" copy record out of it, the needle could be forced > harder by the new harder record material than it ever could using the wax > original. > > SO, thorough the mechanical advantage of the needle holder's lever arm the > reproducer's diaphragm can be made to move as far or farther than the > original cutting head's diaphragm moved. The extra energy is provided by > the turntable forcing the needle through the grooves and therefore side to > side. > > John H. > Article: 336319 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 19:07:03 -0500 Message-ID: <11218-44A076A7-951@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: The reproducer is that round hollow device which holds the needle.I bought a reproducer from Thomas Burnside www.antiqueradio.com about nine years ago.But since he only lives one mile west of me and sometimes I visit over there to see what kind of old radios and clocks and wristwatches I really don't need and since he said he would sell the reproducer to me for two dollars,I went ahead and bought it.I think I gave him two dollars for it.I think I will phone old Charles McKechien and see about what kind of old gadgets he has come up with lately.He lives about six miles from me. cuhulin Article: 336320 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: TUBE ID HELP, PLEASE From: North Lake Audio Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:23:37 GMT > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3234198217_997406 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Hi, I¹m an audio guy, who comes across early radio tubes from time to time. I hope someone can help me id this tube. I¹ll post a link to a photo, if necessary, but I doubt it. Here¹s my description: Globe shape, brass-based, nipple top, short pins (i.e., UV style) with ceramic insulating insert Original brown box has ³detector² stamped on one end, but no brand markings anywhere on box or tube Small label on tube states: ³Filament Voltage 5 ­ 6, Plate Voltage 21² Anode is cylindrical in shape Printing in circle around top of tube circumference says ³Detector Tube² I thought it was a UV-200, but voltages are wrong, aren¹t they? Thanks, Steve --B_3234198217_997406 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable TUBE ID HELP, PLEASE Hi,

I’m an audio guy, who comes across early radio tubes from time to tim= e.  I hope someone can help me id this tube.  I’ll post a li= nk to a photo, if necessary, but I doubt it.  Here’s my descripti= on:

Globe shape, brass-based, nipple top, short pins (i.e., UV style) with cera= mic insulating insert
Original brown box has “detector” stamped on one end, but no br= and markings anywhere on box or tube
Small label on tube states:  “Filament Voltage 5 – 6, Plat= e Voltage 21”
Anode is cylindrical in shape
Printing in circle around top of tube circumference says “Detector Tu= be”

I thought it was a UV-200, but voltages are wrong, aren’t they?

Thanks,
Steve --B_3234198217_997406-- Article: 336321 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: FAQ for rec.antiques.radio+phono Part 1 (Charter, Group Life, B... Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 00:27:25 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <5s-dnRSAdPBWRgTZnZ2dnUVZ_uydnZ2d@giganews.com> <21098-449B7E27-412@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> <1151043839.674791.8120@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <1151084892.801571.167480@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <449C37D5.EB9CACA4@earthlink.net> <1151108720.978422.45880@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1151112740.493872.325930@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> In <1151112740.493872.325930@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Steven" writes: >You have to fight to get a seat on the "tribal council". Why bother? This isn't food, clothing, or shelter. If you walked up to a group of people discussing antique phonographs and they yelled at you to go away, why punish yourself by staying? There's lots of other people in the world. Just consider the people yelling at you to be jerks and go find other people to talk to. >First of all, I really wanted to fix my turntable and play my records >again, and you were suggested. Me? Why would anyone suggest me for that? > I was ignored, I can't speak for anyone else, but if a question came up that I had no useful input on, I would have remained silent. Which would have likely been the case. > then scorned for speaking >up. You reap what is sown. You've irked more than one person doing that >and they wouldn't understand if you are skittish from a malicious >poster. I can't quite parse that. Whoever "they" are, and why "they wouldn't understand" if I was skittish (which I'm not), well, you've lost me there. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 336322 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Mechanical Amplification Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:31:42 -0700 Message-ID: <27634-44A07C6E-596@storefull-3177.bay.webtv.net> References: <88_ng.4279$oa1.14@news02.roc.ny> >From Bill K7NOM: >In the early days of the telephone there >was an amplifier that was made from a >earphone (receiver) and a carbon >microphone. Sure. A carbon button mike and a coupla flashlight batteries in series with a step-up transformer (an AF output xfmr hooked up backwards) will make a nifty acoustic-electric amplifier. oc Article: 336323 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:47:05 -0400 Message-ID: <12a100k231s0336@corp.supernews.com> References: <1151172426.084401.141140@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1526-449EB099-814@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> <1151361808.969337.192400@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44a065b1$0$9874$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Dietenberger" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Sent: Monday, June 26, 2006 7:51 PM Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? > > It's just a mindless sitcom. Very little funny I can recall ever happened on that show. It was a soft core Depression drama. John H. Article: 336324 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44A08440.6D8F05C0@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Help: I need this unobtainium control References: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:05:13 GMT Brenda Ann wrote: > > Dual control, 500K ohm audio taper, SPST switch. Shaft length 2". As you can > see it's got really oddball shafts for each control. > > http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Control.jpg > > The e-mail is good. Is there a brand name on it? It looks like an old ALPS part. You might be able to find good elements and rebuild the bad pot. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336325 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:11:10 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <12575-449C7DF3-546@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> <1151115673.051090.214550@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> In <1151115673.051090.214550@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> "Gerry" writes: >I'm not aware of any purely mechanical/acoustical wind-up machines made >by RCA Victor. The acoustics continued to be sold under the Victor >name here in the US, and HMV (His Master's Voice) in the UK. I do >recall that RCA Victor did indeed make a portable hybrid in the 1930s. >It used a wind-up motor and a battery operated amplifier. Very >stylish, too. Most often in red with lots of shiny chrome trim in the >art deco/streamlined style. Not too many made, and they are quite >valuable. A few of these have popped up in the past year. I've been watching because I've always loved the RCA Victor Special. Here's one on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6638709408 To my eyes they're downright gorgeous. Here's more pages on them: http://www.pbase.com/rflegel/rcavictorspecialmodelm http://www.magi.net/joe/rca.html I believe they came in different trim colors, and the same model was available in a much less sexy fabric covering. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 336326 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1151172426.084401.141140@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1151361808.969337.192400@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:11:14 GMT In article <1151361808.969337.192400@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, n9vu@yahoo.com says... > > Well the "Draw" of this radio... #1... its a "Zenith" ... like it or not its a top collector brandname. #2... it was the prop for the TV show #3... it is a 1938 Shutter Dial Zenith and the '38 shutterdials are collectable #4.... it really isn't that bad a radio.. there are better ones out there.. but they do sound nice and operate well.. As for the TV show... a Philco 84 Cathedral would have been a whole lot closer to something that the poor family walton could have afforded.. But a Philco 84 ... just didn't fit the TV image they wanted to create. Look at the prices of a Zenith 10s130 which is also a large tombstone with 10 tubes and a larger speaker than the Walton.. also see prices on a 9s30 ... another nice large tombstone.. so if it wasn't for the TV show would think that the 232 series of radios would be priced close to these other two radios... John k9uwa Article: 336327 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "wa2mze(spamless)" <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes References: <1Lxng.7953$Wl.4120@trnddc01> <17378-44A03871-608@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 21:27:04 -0400 Bill Sheppard wrote: > From Paul P: > > >>This guy is making his own tubes in his >>kitchen! >> >>http://www.fonar.com.pl/a_index.htm > > > Check out this guy's site - http://home.earthlink.net/~lenyr/index.html > > and scroll down to "Homemade vacuum tube diode" and "Homemade vacuum > tube triode". Lotsa other neat stuff too. > > oc > I tried modulating a flashlight the same way he did as a teenager. I connected the output of a phonograph amp in series with the flashlight bulb and batteries. It was an old tube phonograph and I disconnected the speaker and used the flashlight as the speaker. I cranked up the volume until I could see the light flicker, then backed it off tiny bit. My receiver was an 868 photo tube connected to a 2000 ohm magnetic headset. Same kind you use for crystal radios. I could listen to the phonograph >from across the room by aiming the flashlight at the 868 tube. I later found out I could get more volume by connecting a 45 volt B battery in series with the tube and the headphones (observing correct polarity, the negative end of the battery going to the photo cathode of the tube). If I turned up the volume on the phonograph to the point where I could see the lamp flicker, the sound got distorted. Guess I was exceeding 100% modulation at that point! Article: 336328 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:36:09 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> <7gxng.5586$8i2.8030@wagner.videotron.net> <4dSdncTRMM-vVwPZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1151342056.479787.76870@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In <1151342056.479787.76870@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" writes: >William Sommerwerck wrote: >> Around 1980, Infinity introduced speakers with polypropylene woofers. The >> improvement in sound quality was plainly audible. This is physics, not >> imagination. >William: >You are writing through your hat if you are holding up Infinity >speakers as an example of _ANYTHING_ any good. Expensive... sure. Good? The IRS was indeed good. Very, very good. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 336329 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44A08C44.36BB39E4@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? References: <1151172426.084401.141140@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 01:39:21 GMT Paul Dietenberger wrote: > > Hagstar wrote: > > Very little funny I can recall ever happened on that show. It was a soft > > core Depression drama. > > Right, drama. My error. Point is it's just entertainment, not a > documentary. I doubt the writers cared what any real Walton family > would have owned. The whole thing was just fiction. Did you ever stop to think that since it was set during the depression a lot of goods were paid for by barter? The value of luxury items is rather meaningless if you need lumber to fix your home or barn. It could have been collateral on an unpaid bill, too. Compared to a lot of other families in their area, they were rich. They owned a lot of land with good timber, their home, their saw mill and furniture businesses, and they were fairly self sufficient. Sure, money was tight, but they weren't starving. They had decent clothes and a nice home. They even had a truck, which was rare at the time. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336330 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44A0A126.C5A98409@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: IF transformers from vintage solid state gear References: <1151376947.738738.165480@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 03:08:27 GMT Engineer wrote: > > Hi, Vacuumlanders, > I recently parted out a dead AM/FM receiver (1980's vintage) and have > several good 455 KHz IFT's from the AM section (also 10.7 MHz IFT's > from the FM section, but that's another question.) These IFT's are all > permeability tuned and very small indeed - barely 1/2 inch cubes. > Would they work in tube radios? I have in mind stuffing them into the > radio's original large cans - an easy fit - with small holes for slug > tuning access. Or am I missing something obvious? Plate vs. collector > impedance differences come to mind, also plate to ground capacitance is > a bit higher than collector to ground capacitance, but would any of > this be significant? I've not tried this yet as I've presently no > large, dead IFT's to replace. > Cheers. > Roger. If it was a bipolar solid state radio they are the wrong impedance. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336331 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 03:12:03 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1151172426.084401.141140@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1526-449EB099-814@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> <1151361808.969337.192400@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44a065b1$0$9874$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12a100k231s0336@corp.supernews.com> <1151371530.407777.86940@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44A08C44.36BB39E4@earthlink.net> <1151374636.100885.285930@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44A09982.DE47EBDC@earthlink.net> In <44A09982.DE47EBDC@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: >As far as the way I saw the show, I've always been interested in story >line and continuity in TV series. I believe that it got a lot worse >when I worked as a TV broadcast engineer, Aw, c'mon, Michael. Ya can't claim credit for that! :) :) :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 336332 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ":-: Ghost Chip :-:" References: <1Lxng.7953$Wl.4120@trnddc01> <17378-44A03871-608@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes Message-ID: Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 20:36:06 -0700 "Bill Sheppard" wrote in message news:17378-44A03871-608@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net... > From Paul P: > >>This guy is making his own tubes in his >>kitchen! >> >>http://www.fonar.com.pl/a_index.htm > > Check out this guy's site - > http://home.earthlink.net/~lenyr/index.html > > and scroll down to "Homemade vacuum tube diode" and "Homemade > vacuum > tube triode". Lotsa other neat stuff too. > > oc > Propane works quite well in auto air conditioners until.......leaks and goes BOOM! GC Article: 336333 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: A Fair Deal On A Walton? Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:24:36 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1151172426.084401.141140@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1526-449EB099-814@storefull-3232.bay.webtv.net> <1151361808.969337.192400@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44a065b1$0$9874$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12a100k231s0336@corp.supernews.com> <1151371530.407777.86940@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44A08C44.36BB39E4@earthlink.net> <1151374636.100885.285930@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44A09982.DE47EBDC@earthlink.net> <44A0A640.4DE26C33@earthlink.net> In <44A0A640.4DE26C33@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: >while running the boards for up to 20 hours at a time. Oof. That's when color bars start looking funny. :O -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 336334 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeff Persinger Subject: Re: COPPER SCREEN Source??? Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2006 23:41:26 -0500 Message-ID: References: Ken wrote: > Anyone know a source for copper screen, same mesh as porch screen? Ken > Try http://www.mcmaster.com/ Large selection. Jeff Article: 336335 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: IF transformers from vintage solid state gear References: <1151376947.738738.165480@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 04:47:04 GMT Engineer wrote: > Hi, Vacuumlanders, > I recently parted out a dead AM/FM receiver (1980's vintage) and have > several good 455 KHz IFT's from the AM section (also 10.7 MHz IFT's > from the FM section, but that's another question.) These IFT's are all > permeability tuned and very small indeed - barely 1/2 inch cubes. > Would they work in tube radios? I have in mind stuffing them into the > radio's original large cans - an easy fit - with small holes for slug > tuning access. Use the primary coils on these only. Those consist of the L's of the LC circuits. The caps are usually seen in the middle of the bases of theese transformers. Ignore the secondaries. To couple one to the other use a 2pF cap from the plate of the output tube to the grid 1 of the input tube. 2pF plate-----+---||----+----grid 1 LC LC | | B+ AVC Article: 336336 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: What was "Phonevision"? Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 07:22:54 -0500 Message-ID: <376-44A1231E-935@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: AS=A0BEST I REMEMBER IT WAS PAY TV WHERE THE DECODING WAS BY PHONE. EXPERIMENAL CONCOCTED BY ZENITH. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 336337 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44A12A12.86502A15@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> <129tg2j22ptetb5@corp.supernews.com> <44A085D7.91952489@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:52:43 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: > > My point -- which should have been clear -- is that classic radio equipment > is fun to collect and listen to -- but it ain't high fidelity. If accurate, > realistic sound reproduction isn't important to you, fine. But don't > disparage those of us who find it important. And my point is thatthis is not the newsgroup to discus audiofool crap. Take it to news:rec.audio.tubes, or another group that loves to pick this crap to pieces. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336338 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: IF trannies on radios Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:14:44 -0700 Message-ID: <24736-44A14B64-698@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: >From William: >...they have mica. > >Only on their costumes. > >They have COSTUMES...? Not that site. >Then how can they be transVESTites? The way i was led to understand it, "tranny" refers to a transformer, or in automotive parlance, a transmission (pl. 'trannys'). Whereas "trannie" (pl. 'trannies') refers to them androgynous persons. Regarding those IF trannys, it seems to make more sense to fix 'em all in one shot, sorta like when you change spark plugs. oc Article: 336339 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 08:37:53 -0700 Message-ID: <24738-44A150D1-11@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: From: "wa2mze(spamless)" >If I turned up the volume on the >phonograph to the point where I could >see the lamp flicker, the sound got >distorted. Guess I was exceeding 100% >modulation at that point! Also the frequency response is very limited due to the thermal inertia of the bulb filament. oc Article: 336340 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: The Console of the Beast (Was: FA: nice RCA 1935 console) From: "mike48151" References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:57:30 GMT On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 04:17:03 GMT, Mark Oppat wrote: > this is a very worthy RCA to consider... 1935 year, possibly the C15-3 or > C13-1 , I'd have to look it up, but a very nice radio either way. Current bid: US $6.66 Article: 336341 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: (OT) I hope not too off topic Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:50:32 -0500 Message-ID: <11218-44A153C8-1020@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> A friend in England wants to send me money for some Maybelline cosmetics I bought and snail mailed to her via U.S.Post Office a couple of weeks ago.I don't want her money.When her check (cheque) gets here,I want to turn around and send her money right back to her the safest and surest snail mail way.(I don't do digital money paypal or similar stuff) What is the best way for me to snail mail her money back to her? The very Idea!,her thinking she thinks I will accept money for those certain flavors of Maybelline eye liner pencils! cuhulin Article: 336342 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:58:46 -0500 Message-ID: <11218-44A155B6-1028@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <24738-44A150D1-11@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> I have air conditining in all of my vehicles.Just roll the windows down. cuhulin Article: 336343 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Kitchen vacuum tubes Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:56:38 -0500 Message-ID: <11218-44A15536-1027@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: I have some of those little novelty radios.(y'all know the kind I mean) The moving lip radio. cuhulin Article: 336344 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: (OT) I hope not too off topic From: "mike48151" References: <11218-44A153C8-1020@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 16:14:00 GMT On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:50:32 GMT, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > When her check (cheque) gets here,I want to > turn around and send her money right back to her the safest and surest > snail mail way.(I don't do digital money paypal or similar stuff) What > is the best way for me to snail mail her money back to her? Write "VOID" on the cheque, clip off the magnetic identification numbers, and then send it back by regeistered post. Article: 336345 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: IF trannies on radios Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:07:14 -0500 Message-ID: <11219-44A157B2-215@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: Not really,both might not go ''bad'' at the same time. cuhulin Article: 336346 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: IF trannies on radios Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:05:19 -0500 Message-ID: <11218-44A1573F-1029@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151366716.972426.178970@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> www.devilfinder.com and www.dogpile.com and www.vivisimo.com (in my opinionated opinion) are the Best.But,if y'all like google so much,,,, go for it.Someday y'all might learn a thang or two. cuhulin Article: 336347 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Mechanical Amplification Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 09:12:52 -0700 Message-ID: <24736-44A15904-699@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: <12a2695k03e0ka8@corp.supernews.com> >From Yonny: >I was thinking of a softened hot shellac >ribbon moving under a cutting head that >cooled and hardened as it crossed the >room to a playback stylus. Way cool! And you could add 'echo'. The cutting head in Chicago would take >the signal from NYC and the stiffening >materials would act as a mechanically >amplifying repeater using 1900 >technology to send it on to Ellsworth, >Kansas. > >John H. Article: 336348 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: IF trannies on radios Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:12:21 -0500 Message-ID: <11218-44A158E5-1030@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151420093.522626.88620@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> I am keeping my peace.(or at least,trying to) cuhulin,the ''crazy'' Article: 336349 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: IF trannies on radios Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:15:01 -0500 Message-ID: <11218-44A15985-1031@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151420093.522626.88620@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> I used to email chat with a 22 year old female lesbian bank teller womn in a city of about 35,000 in Wisconsin :{) cuhulin Article: 336350 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: IF trannies on radios Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:17:09 -0500 Message-ID: <11218-44A15A05-1032@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <24736-44A14B64-698@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> Or,Shemales? cuhulin Article: 336351 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: Value of Tubes... Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:32:49 -0400 Message-ID: <59bc348628aa414fabe4b42ab6e3aa25@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: <1151319964.784324.265150@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I've just aquired a huge box full of tubes still in their boxes, ***As a general rule (although some will disagree) don't waste much time inventorying the baseless 7 and 9 pin tubes. The oldest tubes (with bases and 4, 5, 6, and 7 pins) will be most in-demand; the 8 pin "octals" come next on your list but don't expect to vacation in Hawaii. Naturally there are exceptions but very few. OK guys, start shooting back! -Pete Article: 336352 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: IF trannies on radios Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:20:31 -0500 Message-ID: <11218-44A15ACF-1033@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <24736-44A14B64-698@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> She is more than just a lesbian though.She is bi-lesbian.Men and Women.It sure was FUN chatting with that luvely Woman.I don't know why she stopped emailing me. cuhulin Article: 336353 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: (OT) I hope not too off topic Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:27:27 -0500 Message-ID: <11220-44A15C6F-54@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: Write ''VOID''.She would probally cuss (she does cuss,sometimes) me out if I do that.I am sort of thinking a bank certified check or U.S.Post Office Money Order thingy might be ok. cuhulin Article: 336354 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Katmandu" Subject: FA: Heathkit Tube Amplifier Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:30:29 GMT http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190002465415&ssPageName=ADME:L:DS:US:8 Article: 336355 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:26:13 -0500 Message-ID: <11218-44A16A35-1047@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: What do I know? (I don't know nuttin) It could possibly be,I own the only Bogalusa wind up Phongaph in the World.I don't know.Apparently,it isn't all that imporant anyhow. cuhulin,the Bogalusa Article: 336356 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:31:16 -0500 Message-ID: <11218-44A16B64-1048@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: I hate to be off topic,,,,,,, Nawwww,,,,, I won't say that ''one'' either. cuhulin Article: 336357 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Mechanical Amplification Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:27:33 -0700 Message-ID: References: <12a0jqvnfok0m59@corp.supernews.com> On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 17:19:17 -0400, "Hagstar" wrote: >Here's something I figured out that's likely common knowledge to old record >people. When they first cut records using a soft wax, and then created a >hard "plastic" Shellac. >copy record out of it, the needle could be forced harder by >the new harder record material than it ever could using the wax original. Congratulations on reinventing the wheel. The amplification was provided by the horn, which is an acoustic transformer, coupling the relatively high impedance of air in the throat to low impedance of free air. Article: 336358 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: (OT) I hope not too off topic From: "mike48151" References: <1151429443.647789.101050@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:51:10 GMT On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:30:43 GMT, Peter Wieck wrote: >> Write ''VOID''.She would probally cuss (she does cuss,sometimes) me out >> if I do that.I am sort of thinking a bank certified check or U.S.Post >> Office Money Order thingy might be ok. >> cuhulin > > If she is sending you a personal check, voiding it out is your only > option. Once cuhulin declared that he could not return a voided cheque because she would curse him, but did propose to send a check of his own (as if she couldn't curse him for that), I discarded belief that his query was sincere. He doesn't seem so much to be trolling as trawling for conversation. Is there a good just-shoot-the-breeze forum on the 'Net to which he could be directed?4 Article: 336359 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Bogalusa Phonographs Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 12:44:17 -0500 Message-ID: <11218-44A16E71-1049@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151376880.970037.297500@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Them Louisiana Cajuns,next door to me are just flat plumb crazy.but not really.I have a Louisiana divorced lady friend in Delta,Louisiana.Louisiana Womannnnn,,,,,, Mississippi Mannnnn,,,,,, we will get together just as soon as we cannnnnn,,,,,,, ain't no Rivrer too farrrrrr and wideeeeeee,,,,,,, cuhulin Article: 336360 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: need settings to test EF86 tube on Precision Apparatus 612 tester Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:33:23 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1151368711.457807.317960@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1151375767.819656.145160@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1151396688.847768.324660@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> On 27 Jun 2006 01:24:48 -0700, Charlie Nudo of Drums, PA, posing as "CAINE" from his spam address scribbled: >nope, 6267 is not in the wheel either- already tried that That's because you're using a cheap piece of crap emissions tester that predates both EF86s and 6267s. You can figure out the settings with the tester's manual and a tube manual...if you have any brains...which you don't, Charlie the Organ Grinder. Besides, an emission test isn't a valid test for anything other than a rectifier or damper. For anything involving signal amplification, mutual conductance tests are pretty much a must. I won't tell you why, since your mercury filled brain can't handle that much information. Go train your monkey and start hitting the streets of Scranton for tips, Noodles! The IRS and the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania want their money NOW! Article: 336361 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: What was "Phonevision"? Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:36:36 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1151379504.347848.137300@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 26 Jun 2006 20:38:24 -0700, "Terry S" wrote: >Anyone know? Early Pay TV, a scam cooked up by Zenith with the largess of the aldermen of Chicago. It ignited the "no pay TV" furor of the late '50s. Funny how people now seem willing to shell out exhorbitant prices for cable TV, which is, of course, Pay TV. Once HDTV replaces analog and broadcast patterns shrink by 50% or more, the public will be trapped, but good. Article: 336362 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Jackson Dynamic tube tester Model 612-1949 vintage-$25 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:38:12 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1151396532.650149.148260@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 27 Jun 2006 01:22:12 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&item=140002087158&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 Report this spam to: groups-abuse@google.com abuse@epix.net spam@ebay.com (seller name: 66fourdoor) Article: 336363 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Jackson Dynamic tube tester Model 103-1949 vintage-$25 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:44:00 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1151396751.942922.182280@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1151397120.638740.73420@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1151413628.541499.275240@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> On 27 Jun 2006 06:07:08 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: > >Steven wrote: >> Nobody pays attention to you posting in ba.broadcast! Quit bugging >> them/ Thanks for the tip! Article: 336364 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Jackson Dynamic tube tester Model 103-1949 vintage-$25 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:41:30 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1151396751.942922.182280@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> On 27 Jun 2006 01:25:52 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >http://cgi.ebay Report this spam to: groups-abuse@google.com (account bb69@epix.net) abuse@epix.net spam@ebay.com (account name 66fourdoor) Article: 336365 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Jackson Dynamic tube tester Model 103-1949 vintage-$25 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 10:43:14 -0700 Message-ID: <2fr2a216oa1mq9efalp8k3ao5np2kd65vg@4ax.com> References: <1151396751.942922.182280@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1151409983.907183.44380@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> <1151413751.201919.168820@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> On 27 Jun 2006 06:09:11 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >then why did someone ask for a shipping quote to Canada already ? Because eBay's full of stupid people, just waiting to be fleeced by a petty criminal like Charlie Nudo of Drums, PA, that's why. Smarter people just labor to have your accoutns shut down...successfully, I might add. > >I disagree, Peter ! you're WRONG, again ! No, he's right...and I'm right...you're a con artist and junk peddler. Jackson testers were a joke when new, but you're too stupid to know that. Article: 336366 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Mechanical Amplification Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:09:12 -0700 Message-ID: <24106-44A17448-784@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> References: >From db: >Congratulations on reinventing the >wheel. > >The amplification was provided by the >horn, which is an acoustic transformer, >coupling the relatively high impedance of >air in the throat to low impedance of free >air. Only indirectly. The _net energy gain_ (ie, amplification) is provided by the spring motor's driving the stylus (analogous to B+ supplying an AF output stage). The horn's role of impedance-matching would be analogous to the output xfmr. oc Article: 336367 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: (OT) I hope not too off topic Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:27:15 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <11220-44A15C6F-54@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> In <11220-44A15C6F-54@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> cuhulin@webtv.net writes: >Write ''VOID''.She would probally cuss (she does cuss,sometimes) me out >if I do that.I am sort of thinking a bank certified check or U.S.Post >Office Money Order thingy might be ok. In a delicate situation such as this, where some diplomacy is in order to avoid bruised feelings, it might be best to simply never cash her check and not send anything back. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 336368 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: (OT) I hope not too off topic References: <11218-44A153C8-1020@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:11:07 -0400 Take the money and run... Ken cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > A friend in England wants to send me money for some Maybelline cosmetics > I bought and snail mailed to her via U.S.Post Office a couple of weeks > ago.I don't want her money.When her check (cheque) gets here,I want to > turn around and send her money right back to her the safest and surest > snail mail way.(I don't do digital money paypal or similar stuff) What > is the best way for me to snail mail her money back to her? > > The very Idea!,her thinking she thinks I will accept money for those > certain flavors of Maybelline eye liner pencils! > cuhulin > Article: 336369 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Jackson Dynamic tube tester Model 103-1949 vintage-$25 References: <1151396751.942922.182280@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1151409983.907183.44380@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> <1151418559.638011.79790@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151430997.348647.73780@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151441392.851930.159430@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:07:04 GMT > > Are Jacksons really ALL bad? What bugs me about whatshisname is the > sweeping generalizations. Surely they made at least ONE half decent > tester. I only have Hickoks, so no experience. Anybody? > Emission testers only test the part of the tube that most commonly wears out (the cathode). That and leakage paths. Good in a repair shop, but not that useful in a tube manufacturer's development lab. I don't think you could pick out matching tubes for a push-pull audio amp that well with an emission tester though. There's no real difference between brands except for build quality and convenience. Article: 336370 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Mechanical Amplification Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:19:28 -0400 Message-ID: <12a387dsq08qab4@corp.supernews.com> References: <24106-44A17448-784@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> From db: > >Congratulations on reinventing the >wheel. > >The amplification was provided by the >horn, which is an acoustic transformer A transformer isn't an amplifier. I knew some arm chair quarterback would dismiss the idea without absorbing it. John H. Article: 336371 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: FM radio interference on old boatanchor television Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 06:29:57 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1151437608.074392.309350@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> wrote in message news:1151437608.074392.309350@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com... >I have just brought a 1949 G.E. model 10T4 television back to life. New > caps, some new tubes and some new resistors did the trick. However, FM > radio is all over the lower channels. Local channel 12 comes in real > good. Channel 8 is there, too. But channels 6 and 3 are overpowered > by FM. I've tried different antenna configurations, but no joy. Is > this an inherent quality of these old TVs since FM wasn't around when > they were manufactured? Or is there a fix for this? While I'm at it, > why doens't my contrast control work? The brightness control does work, > but not contrast. > The two problems may be inter-related, since on many of those old sets, the contrast control did not work as it does in modern sets. It was a manual gain control of sorts, and affected the amount of signal getting through the RF/IF chain. I don't have a schematic for this particular set, but it's a good place to start. Article: 336372 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: Tube Testers Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:49:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1151441923.981373.118940@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Great write-up- thanks for confirming what I've believed all these years. The only time I use my 1946 "Supreme" is for testing tubes as they arrive in radios before work begins. This way I can eliminate outright junk tubes without wasting time troubleshooting later. -Pete O. Article: 336373 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1151437608.074392.309350@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FM radio interference on old boatanchor television Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:49:10 GMT When you say that the lower channels are overpowered by FM, do you mean any particular station? If you have a nearby FM station with a strong signal, you may need a wave trap. Bear in mind that most TV's of this time were "split sound" sets, meaning the sound and picture are teo different units on the same tuning switch. Your sound is basically an FM radio, independent of the video. Your contrast control is like a volume control, for video. Why it doesn't work is like asking, why won't my car start? If you have a problem here, give us some more specific questions and we'll answer then as best we can, -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:1151437608.074392.309350@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com... >I have just brought a 1949 G.E. model 10T4 television back to life. New > caps, some new tubes and some new resistors did the trick. However, FM > radio is all over the lower channels. Local channel 12 comes in real > good. Channel 8 is there, too. But channels 6 and 3 are overpowered > by FM. I've tried different antenna configurations, but no joy. Is > this an inherent quality of these old TVs since FM wasn't around when > they were manufactured? Or is there a fix for this? While I'm at it, > why doens't my contrast control work? The brightness control does work, > but not contrast. > Article: 336374 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: (OT) I hope not too off topic Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:28:17 -0500 Message-ID: <376-44A1B101-1057@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: I assume it will be a personal check from her personal British bank account.So,if I don't cash that check from her,that money (about $40.00) will stay in her personal bank account? She said she will include two photos of herself on her fiftieth birthday.I will keep the photos and destroy her check. cuhulin Article: 336375 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Trav-ler Radio Front Cover From: "LOP" Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 15:56:27 -0700 Message-ID: <1151448504_53127@sp6iad.superfeed.net> I am in need of a Trav-ler radio front cover. This cover has the antenna for the radio built in. Thanks, Don and Liz ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Article: 336376 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Tube Testers From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <1151441923.981373.118940@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:03:16 GMT Great post! From adouglasatgis.net Sat Jul 1 10:56:20 EDT 2006 Article: 336377 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: TUBE ID HELP, PLEASE Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:50:33 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-010.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!pln-e!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news3 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:336377 Hi, Bootleg tubes were common around 1922. $5 for a real UV200 was a lot of money at the time. Bootleggers often used bases from burned-out tubes. It's marked "detector" because they couldn't pump a good enough vacuum for an amplifier tube. There were also tube-rebuilding services advertised. Alan Article: 336378 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1151368711.457807.317960@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1151375767.819656.145160@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1151396688.847768.324660@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Ouch!!!! Message-ID: <2gjog.5983$il.4085@trnddc03> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:34:22 GMT "DeserTBoB" wrote in message news:vlq2a21ht6uks1msqvn17r89fijnplpeha@4ax.com... > That's because you're using a cheap piece of crap emissions tester > that predates both EF86s and 6267s. You can figure out the settings > with the tester's manual and a tube manual...if you have any > brains...which you don't, Charlie the Organ Grinder. Besides, an > emission test isn't a valid test for anything other than a rectifier Wow! >From reading the past 16,983 messages I gather that you and Charlie are not exactly planning to exchange Christmas cards this year, but I indeed also have, and use, a Precision 612 tester. It's a real shame to learn that it's a cheap piece of crap, because for vintage radio use it has really come in handy. You see, my 747 doesn't support any tubes that predate the octal revolution, and I indeed see a lot of those 4-pin and 6-pin types on my bench. So I keep this one around for the purpose. Does a 26 really need a full mutual-conductance checkout to determine if it's suitable for an Atwater Kent radio? If so, how did techs live with this situation back in 1928? I actually did come across a Precision mutual conductance tester that was otherwise similar to the 612, but the cabinet was badly broken and I didn't have time to check out the tester itself, so I gave it away. Maybe someday, when I inherit the world's most expensive tube tester that can check an 01A for everything from plate temperature to filament luminosity, I'll consider giving up my 612. Until then I regard it a very valid piece of test gear for working with antique radios -- although some might consider them "cheap crap" as well. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 336379 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Todd Tuckey" Subject: Who sells rebuild kits for RCA 45rpm players? Message-ID: <6zjog.5986$il.2677@trnddc03> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:54:42 GMT Have one of these from the 50's, but all the rubber is gone from the idler wheels, etc...does someone sell a kit for these little RCA record players? Thanks! Todd from TNT Amusements www.tntamusements.com Article: 336380 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1151396751.942922.182280@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1151409983.907183.44380@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> <1151418559.638011.79790@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151430997.348647.73780@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151441392.851930.159430@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Jackson Dynamic tube tester Model 103-1949 vintage-$25 Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 19:17:57 -0500 Message-ID: <44a1bd5e$0$9841$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1151441392.851930.159430@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com... > Are Jacksons really ALL bad? What bugs me about whatshisname is the > sweeping generalizations. Surely they made at least ONE half decent > tester. I only have Hickoks, so no experience. Anybody? Most Jackson testers do not measure transconductance. So if you expect that in a tester, you won't be happy with them. Jacksons used a "Dynamic" circuit, different from ordinary cheap emissions testers which just tie all the grids to the plate and test it as a diode. The Jacksons actually applied proportional voltages to each grid to provide voltages similar to those found in radio circuits, but the supplied voltages were AC instead of DC like in Hickoks. And the meters were just calibrated as go/no-go like an emission tester instead of measuring plate current and umhos. Still, I think they're great for radio work, better than an emission tester, but not too useful for audio work. There were a lot of models. This 103 was, as Peter said, a very low end model. It'll sell, but only a clueless buyer would pay much for it. I use a 115 which is also low end but it serves my trivial needs admirably. The 648 series was the most popular. JM2c paul -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 336381 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: (OT) I hope not too off topic Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:24:12 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <376-44A1B101-1057@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> In <376-44A1B101-1057@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> cuhulin@webtv.net writes: >I assume it will be a personal check from her personal British bank >account.So,if I don't cash that check from her,that money (about $40.00) >will stay in her personal bank account? That's how checks (and cheques) work. > She said she will include two >photos of herself on her fiftieth birthday.I will keep the photos and >destroy her check. Don't get it backwards! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 336382 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: need settings to test EF86 tube on Precision Apparatus 612 tester From: "Weldon Nudlpudl" References: <1151368711.457807.317960@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1151375767.819656.145160@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1151396688.847768.324660@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:29:05 GMT On 27-Jun-2006, DeserTBoB wrote: > That's because you're using a cheap piece of crap emissions tester > that predates both EF86s and 6267s. The Mystery, DB, is why a man with all of those LPs (which are worth their weight in radioactive platinum) doesn't just use some of his great wealth to establish a research lab on his estate -- let alone buy a better tube tester. Article: 336383 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44A1D5F0.8F25BD26@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> <129tg2j22ptetb5@corp.supernews.com> <44A085D7.91952489@earthlink.net> <44A12A12.86502A15@earthlink.net> <0JidnZJmY6UhKzzZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:06:12 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: > > >> My point -- which should have been clear -- is that classic radio > equipment > >> is fun to collect and listen to -- but it ain't high fidelity. If > accurate, > >> realistic sound reproduction isn't important to you, fine. But don't > >> disparage those of us who find it important. > > > And my point is that this is not the newsgroup to discus audiofool > > crap. Take it to news:rec.audio.tubes, or another group that loves to > > pick this crap to pieces. > > I wasn't the one who started picking this to pieces. > > It's unfortunate that legitimate audiophilia has become conflated with the > view that ALL listeners serious about sound reproduction are audiofools. > There's plenty of grossly overpriced equipment out there. Likewise, you can > get a really, really good system without busting your wallet. > > If you don't care about high-quality sound reproduction, fine. But don't > tell me I don't know what I'm talking about. Gee, Bill, I've worked in studios for years, so don't tell me I don't know what I'm talking about either. Welcome to the "Skippy" bucket. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336384 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44A1D6CC.39C46FA6@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FM radio interference on old boatanchor television References: <1151437608.074392.309350@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 01:09:52 GMT rodsievers@gmail.com wrote: > > Also, I bought an FM trap from Radio Shack and it has no effect at all. That means that it isn't coming in through the antenna terminals. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336385 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:32:48 -0500 Message-ID: <26434-44A1DC40-251@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <44A1D5F0.8F25BD26@earthlink.net> I don't know that much,but you might be interested in checking out, www.pricewheeler.com Site Map,Audio Sites. cuhulin Article: 336386 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: (OT) I hope not too off topic Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:52:42 -0500 Message-ID: <26433-44A1E0EA-1073@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: No worry about that.She would kill me if I tore up her photos :{) cuhulin Article: 336387 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Trav-ler Radio Front Cover Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:57:42 -0500 Message-ID: <26434-44A1E216-252@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151448504_53127@sp6iad.superfeed.net> I own a big old heavy Sears Trav-ler portable AM/FM/Shortwave radio.I bought it at a Goodwill store years ago.I must say that radio is plum worn out,it was like that when I bought it.The on/off/volume control and the push buttons on top of the radio mostly don't work at all.But when the radio does work,it works real good. cuhulin Article: 336388 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Fred C" Subject: Brunswick Regulator Message-ID: <44a1e2a2$1@news.meer.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:00:00 -0400 In Riders Vol 1, Brunswick page 1-29 is shown model S-14. The lower schematic shows the audio amps and power supply. In that schematic is shown a voltage regulator called a D110. Can anyone shed any light on coming up with a replacement? Can someone measure its room temperature (not operating) dc resistance? To what pins are the internal resistor (resistors connected)? Any input and or help will be much appreciated. Was this radio built for RCA, and if so, what was its RCA Model number? Fred C Article: 336389 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1151448504_53127@sp6iad.superfeed.net> <26434-44A1E216-252@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Trav-ler Radio Front Cover Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 02:20:05 GMT wrote in message news:26434-44A1E216-252@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... > I own a big old heavy Sears Trav-ler portable AM/FM/Shortwave radio.I > I suspect that instead of some Sears POs he's talking about a 20s portable that uses 199 tubes. Ron -- Radio Collection Web Page, http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com WANTED! http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html Hard to find 2 pin mic connectors for BA rigs. http://radioheaven.homestead.com/2pinmicplug.html From adouglasatgis.net Sat Jul 1 10:56:22 EDT 2006 Article: 336390 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Tube Testers Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 22:35:57 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Lines: 24 Message-ID: <42q3a2t9jhrm9khfneg86pf3ouqgr8n5aq@4ax.com> References: <1151441923.981373.118940@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151448922.251521.239190@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1151450939.576716.75920@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1151453690.822454.58510@d56g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1151455629.121059.144110@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1151456613.251376.166680@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-591.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!pln-e!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news2 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:336390 Hi, >Brands: >Sencore, Heath and Simpson make some very nice emissions-type testers >with all the required tests as noted above. Others do as well, but >sometimes the brand-names are just better, easier to use and better >supported. The three named above are extremely well-supported, >up-to-date charts are readily available and they are fairly robust. > Hmmm. Few if any emission-only testers have meaningful gas tests. The ones that do, are more likely combination Gm/emission models (Gm on popular tubes, emission on others). I wouldn't put Simpson on the list of well-supported models. Simpson was never a big player in that market. >Hickok, Stark, Eico, Heath, Supreme, Simpson, AVO and others make MC >testers. Eico never did, I'm not aware that Supreme ever did (other than military models I-177 and TV-7) and Simpson's only Gm model was in 1946, a very odd duck. Alan Article: 336391 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Ouch!!!! From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1151368711.457807.317960@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1151375767.819656.145160@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1151396688.847768.324660@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <2gjog.5983$il.4085@trnddc03> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 02:56:22 GMT In article <2gjog.5983$il.4085@trnddc03>, caradio@verizon.net says... > > > >although some might consider them "cheap crap" as well. > >Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Any Old Emissions tester is fine for old radio tubes. Now when I want to Sell Tubes into the Audio Crowd I drag out the calibrated Hickok ... the term... My Calibrated Hickok says: in the auction description is worth a good chunk of change to the audio types. Other than that.. its the old Paco here and a Knight Kit in FL... John k9uwa Article: 336392 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1151441923.981373.118940@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151448922.251521.239190@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1151450939.576716.75920@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1151453690.822454.58510@d56g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1151455629.121059.144110@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Tube Testers Message-ID: <2nmog.18135$Gh.17151@trnddc02> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:06:38 GMT Putting in my two cents, or at least my two comments: 1. First, I wholeheartedly agree that tube testers have their limitations. I can count twice this month where I checked the tubes in a radio, replaced a weak one with one that tests good on a B&K 747, and introduced a strange problem with that "good" tube. If a tube tests weak (or has shorts or gridleak -- duh!) throw it out. If it tests good, keep it around, but continue to be suspicious. If a circuit in a radio acts funny, but the tube tests good, the only true valid test is to sub it. 2. Second, it seems some people who frequent this list -- along with others in technical circles -- have a way of continually putting down equipment by brand name or model, only because it isn't the "clique" one to have. If it ain't a Cadillac or Lincoln, it ain't roadworthy. The only turntable you can use is a Technics SL-1200; any other will render your records unusable after only 3 plays. The only usable scope is a Tektronix; a Hewlett-Packard will display the waveform upside-down and backwards, and maybe redisplay the trace from a TV set you worked on three weeks ago. KLH is junk. Zenith is junk. Infinity is junk. Bose is junk. Paper-cone speakers are junk, and so are poly cones. And when it comes to tube testers, let the world know it must be a HICKOK! Anything less will make your tubes radioactive . . . Many moons ago when I was in school, the classrooms were filled with Eico products -- signal tracers, cap bridges, AF and RF generators, and basic scopes. Almost from day one, I dreamed of someday having a REAL shop with Tektronix, Sencore, Hickok, and other big brands of top-of-the-line stuff. Of course even this was simple, as each piece is available as lab units costing 6-months salary or more. But the fact remains, over the years I've come to appreciate the "cheap crap" products by Eico, Heathkit, and others, as they were built not to be incredibly precise, but easy to operate and rugged for everyday use. I honestly believe that through discussion, many would-be hobbyists become intimidated over the fact that they only have a used Knight-kit voltmeter, a Heathkit tube tester, and a Radio Shack soldering iron, not realizing that these tools alone can make for a wonderful test bench for hobby use. For heaven's sake, do you REALLY need a Tektronix dual trace 250mHz memory scope to work on an AM radio? My personal scope is an HP (shut up, guys) 100mHz dual trace and it is way more than adequate for my use -- in fact the darn thing hasn't even been turned on in over a year. My point is, every piece of test equipment out there was designed to do a job, and although some have excelled above others, they all are adequate for our basic use. Like I mentioned in another thread, I have a Precision 612 tube tester and it serves me well for tubes that my 747 can't handle. Tools are tools; if the glove fits and works, wear it. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1151455629.121059.144110@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > >> >> All that you say is true. However. I have any number of radios >> including a Zenith 6S254, and a Motorola 6T that have at least two >> tubes each that fail on my Simpson 555 emissions tester, and work >> *just* fine in the radio. What is even stranger is that both tubes test >> "at minimum" on the Hickok 539B. >> >> Point being that Tube Testers are limited devices. That they are useful >> is unquestionable or I would not keep two. That they are not perfect is >> also unquestionable. In terms of *pure* utility, I would give up both >> of them before I gave up my signal generator. But trotting out the big >> Hickok sure lends credibility when it comes to purchasing radios... or >> tubes. Nothing like a monser device with three (3) separate meters to >> wowser the uninitiated. >> >> Peter Wieck >> Wyncote, PA >> >> p.s.: I will have a tube tester with one (1) simple defect to give away >> TODAY. Look for the Zenith Post. >> > Likewise, Peter, I don't greatly disagree with you. I have a decent > Triplett emission tester that is my "everyday" tester. I've used quite > a few testers thru the years and have kept this one about 7 years. I > also keep a Hickok 752 around for that wowser impact, but it rarely > tells me anything significantly different from the Triplett in terms of > tube quality. I found the same to be true with Cardamatic, Hickok 539B, > 600, 532, 533, B&K 747, etc. Very often a weak or screwy-testing tube > was working just fine in an old radio when the radio was taken out of > service. Unless the weak or screwy-testing tubes proves to be a source > of trouble as shown by substitution, it's a waste of limited-finite > resources to dump a working tube. I've heard that end-of-life audio > tubes may go into a rapid self-destruct spiral, is that true? > So tell me this (addressed to the group), when you repair a radio to > sell or fix one for $$, if that 6K7 (or whatever) works fine but tests > (?), will you replace it? Or let it stay? If you replace it, what will > you do with it? > Article: 336393 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Todd Tuckey" References: <6zjog.5986$il.2677@trnddc03> Subject: Re: Who sells rebuild kits for RCA 45rpm players? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 03:19:35 GMT Hey folks! Thanks for the advice...the grommets on the motor are all rotted too...are those standard? Todd Article: 336394 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Re: Tube Testers Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:26:36 -0600 Message-ID: <21098-44A1F6EC-1438@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151456613.251376.166680@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> While on the subject of tube testers maybe someone can explain the proper method of stowing the power cord in tube testers. Hickoks seem to be a particular pain the ass to wind the cord around the switches and quickly close the cover (if possible) before it pops out. DON AC7PD Article: 336395 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Trav-ler Radio Front Cover From: "LOP" Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:35:57 -0700 Message-ID: <1151465281_54693@sp6iad.superfeed.net> References: <1151448504_53127@sp6iad.superfeed.net> <26434-44A1E216-252@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Whoops! Sorry about that. I did mean the one with the 199 tubes. Thanks for the clarification Ron, Don and Liz " Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:pHlog.3410$4c7.1349@tornado.southeast.rr.com... > > wrote in message > news:26434-44A1E216-252@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... >> I own a big old heavy Sears Trav-ler portable AM/FM/Shortwave radio.I >> > > I suspect that instead of some Sears POs he's talking about a 20s portable > that uses 199 tubes. > > Ron > > > -- > > Radio Collection Web Page, > http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com > WANTED! > http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html > Hard to find 2 pin mic connectors for BA rigs. > http://radioheaven.homestead.com/2pinmicplug.html > > > > ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Article: 336396 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Check out this $10,000 Zenith Trans-Oceanic Radio Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:55:38 +0900 Message-ID: References: <8pydnaJgi79zdjzZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@giganews.com> "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:8pydnaJgi79zdjzZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@giganews.com... > Ridiculous. I own an A600L in nice original condition, confirmed as having > belonged to Joan Fontaine. > > http://antiqueradio.org/zen32.htm > > I paid around $300 for it a few years ago, and felt like I was paying a > premium price at the time. Anybody who spends multiple thousand$$$ for > this kind of radio needs to get out more often. These radios are not that > rare, and you will never recoup an investment in the thousands. > > P.S. Guess what kids, you can actually find old radios in places other > than eBay. :-) > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > Well, some of us can. I have a fairly small choice of options.. I can get them here, or from ebay. Article: 336397 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dennis Daly" References: <44a1e2a2$1@news.meer.net> Subject: Re: Brunswick Regulator Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 06:21:25 GMT "Fred C" wrote in message news:44a1e2a2$1@news.meer.net... > In Riders Vol 1, Brunswick page 1-29 is shown model S-14. The lower > schematic shows the audio amps and power supply. In that schematic is shown > a voltage regulator called a D110. Can anyone shed any light on coming up > with a replacement? Can someone measure its room temperature (not > operating) dc resistance? To what pins are the internal resistor (resistors > connected)? > > Any input and or help will be much appreciated. Was this radio built for > RCA, and if so, what was its RCA Model number? > > Fred C > > Hello- The Duresite D-110 regulator shows 7.5 ohms @ 70 deg. F.ambient Single element @ pins 1 and 3. Chassis for model S-14 was made by Bremer-Tully for Brunswick . Same as Bremer-Tully model S-81 or 82, if I recall correctly. Check with some of the commercial tube vendors....That's where I found mine. Den Article: 336398 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: Re: (OT) I hope not too off topic Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:22:19 -0700 Message-ID: References: <376-44A1B101-1057@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> and, you have a good excuse - a US bank will charge you about $40 to cash a check made out to a foreign bank - why not suggest that she use the money to buy some "skype out" credits and they you two can chat for a very long time. Or that she donate to a charity in the UK - you could suggest one or two - tell her about the expense of cashing non-US checks and suggest the charity instead. On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:28:17 -0500, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: >I assume it will be a personal check from her personal British bank >account.So,if I don't cash that check from her,that money (about $40.00) >will stay in her personal bank account? She said she will include two >photos of herself on her fiftieth birthday.I will keep the photos and >destroy her check. >cuhulin Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 336399 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: Re: DIAL EMERGENCY! ADVICE NEEDED Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:28:57 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1151462608.715301.275230@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> instead of the chemical approach, just polish the dial - start with 600 sand paper and water - sand to a uniform "ground glass" look. then go to finer and finer paper (if you have 1200, and 2400, use them) going perpendicular to prior direction each time - then polish with polishing compound, then buff. you will get your crystal clear dial back, but it will take you a few hours of work On 27 Jun 2006 19:43:28 -0700, swingst1@juno.com wrote: >Hi, > >I've restoring a General Electric clock radio, model #935-or 936# >(identicle) http://cm.ebay.com/cm/ck/1065-29392-2357-0? for picture. > >Very common for the period radio, but I really like it. > > >Everything went according to plan, until I started restoring the dial. > >When the radio arrived from (ebay) the dial was badly cracked. Im >managed to piece it back together with Super Glue. That worked >great,but some of the excess glue had streamed on the clear part of >the dial (all plastic). > >While I was painting the numbers back on, the look of the excess glue >got the best of me and I decided to try to remove it with a product >called Goof Off or Goo Be gone whatever. > >It seemed to work at first, the dial became clear. I thought I was a >genius. > >An hour later, the dial looked like a Frankenstein creation. The >chemicals merely moved the glue all over the dial. > >I rebulit the case...replaced all the caps..its playing like new, but >now I have this really hiddius dial. > >I'm an idiot for not leaving well enough alone..but I need help. Any >advice?? > >Does anyone of a person with a 1000 used dials type of web site? or can >I still fix the dial. > >Is there a remedy for my mistake?? > >Thanks, any info greatly appreciated! > >Barry F. > >Is there another product that remove the Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 336400 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: The Console of the Beast (Was: FA: nice RCA 1935 console) From: "mike48151" References: <1151455207.923501.121850@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 07:55:31 GMT On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:40:07 GMT, Steven wrote: >>> this is a very worthy RCA to consider... 1935 year, possibly the C15-3 or >>> C13-1 , I'd have to look it up, but a very nice radio either way. >> >> >> >> Current bid: US $6.66 > > Sasquch is bidding on it now. Didn't know they listened to radios. Normally, they listen to police scanners, CB, and cell phone interceptors. But not to commercial AM anymore, since so much of it is political rubbish. Article: 336401 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Check out this $10,000 Zenith Trans-Oceanic Radio From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 08:06:46 GMT On Mon, 26 Jun 2006 00:05:40 GMT, Rick Yerke wrote: > Both $10,000 bidders have 0 feedback > Good luck to the seller to try and collect the money when the auction > ends. The seller is apparently overwhelmed by the fantasy of collection, as the bids have been allowed to stand -- and thus to block legitimate bids for smaller sums. At this point, I rather hope that the seller has already spent the $10,400. Article: 336402 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: IF trannies on radios References: <1151356539.384725.239100@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1151366716.972426.178970@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> <1151371979.829828.289980@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1151420093.522626.88620@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 10:35:23 GMT When trannies go bad... http://www.neworleanscitybusiness.com/uptotheminute.cfm?recid=4912&userID=0&referer=dailyUpdate Jeff Stephanie Weil wrote: > > Oy! -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 336403 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "August Johnson" Subject: Re: Repairing a BC-348 - An update and a few more questions.... Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 04:39:30 -0700 Message-ID: <12a4qjhsi3omo05@corp.supernews.com> References: <2cidnQ7So4AfdTzZnZ2dnUVZ_oKdnZ2d@velocitywest.com> Hi Dean, http://www.kg7bz.net/Manuals/BC-348/TO%2012R2-3BC-112.pdf Covers the K, L and R versions. 73, August Johnson KG7BZ "-=H=-" wrote in message news:fOmdnSc1PqmVcDzZnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@centurytel.net... > Pete, > > I have an all-original BC-348-R that I picked up at a recent > hamfest. It's complete and in nice shape, but it's missing > the dynamotor. I need to locate one because once I have the > set restored and working, it's going aboard our Museum's B-17 > Flying Fortress (which means it has to run on 28 VDC). Any > leads will be appreciated. I'm also in need of a BC-348-R > manual. Apparently the "R" model is different from all of > the previous models, although I don't have a clue how. > > 73, > Dean K5DH Article: 336404 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Repairing a BC-348 - An update and a few more questions.... From: k5dh@raytheon.com (-=H=-) References: <2cidnQ7So4AfdTzZnZ2dnUVZ_oKdnZ2d@velocitywest.com> <12a4qjhsi3omo05@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:29:17 GMT Hi August, Wow! Thanks for making the manual available! I downloaded a copy to my computer just now. I'll burn it to a CD later. Thanks and 73! Dean K5DH In article <12a4qjhsi3omo05@corp.supernews.com>, ajohn_son@ubvri.net says... > >Hi Dean, > >http://www.kg7bz.net/Manuals/BC-348/TO%2012R2-3BC-112.pdf > >Covers the K, L and R versions. > >73, >August Johnson KG7BZ > >"-=H=-" wrote in message >news:fOmdnSc1PqmVcDzZnZ2dnUVZ_vKdnZ2d@centurytel.net... >> Pete, >> >> I have an all-original BC-348-R that I picked up at a recent >> hamfest. It's complete and in nice shape, but it's missing >> the dynamotor. I need to locate one because once I have the >> set restored and working, it's going aboard our Museum's B-17 >> Flying Fortress (which means it has to run on 28 VDC). Any >> leads will be appreciated. I'm also in need of a BC-348-R >> manual. Apparently the "R" model is different from all of >> the previous models, although I don't have a clue how. >> >> 73, >> Dean K5DH > > Article: 336405 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1151492083.058397.320630@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Last Call: Free to Good Home - 12H090 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:35:18 GMT Peter, why couldn't you have moved to Sarasota? I'd love to put a square-dial Zenith in my living room, now that it's been remodeled and I HAVE room! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1151492083.058397.320630@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > http://radioatticarchives.com/images/z/Zenith_12-H-090_Stanley.jpg > > Similar to this one. > > Complete excepting cartridge for the Turntable. Big beast, ~42" wide by > 38: high by 19" deep. Turntable on pull-out drawer to the left, tuner > head on tilt-out drawer to the right. > > Pick-Up only from 19095. > > ADDED INDUCEMENTS (all free): > > Jackson Tube Tester (MUCH better quality than the one recently > discussed). > > VIZ Iso-Tap Isolation Transformer, fused separately, 2A isolated, 5A > direct. > > Deadline to commit (but not to pick up) is Friday, June 30, 2006 or the > unit will become a liquor cabinet. Please help save this *uh* wonderful > piece of vintage Americana! > > Contact me directly: pfjw at aol dot com > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 336406 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <6zjog.5986$il.2677@trnddc03> Subject: Re: Who sells rebuild kits for RCA 45rpm players? Message-ID: <6Kuog.88089$8i2.460769@wagner.videotron.net> Date: Tue, 27 Jun 2006 20:44:19 -0400 "Todd Tuckey" wrote in message news:6zjog.5986$il.2677@trnddc03... > Have one of these from the 50's, but all the rubber is gone from the idler > wheels, etc...does someone sell a kit for these little RCA record players? > Thanks! Todd from TNT Amusements www.tntamusements.com Try phonoed@aol.com he rebuilds idlers and does a fine job. Syl Article: 336407 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <6zjog.5986$il.2677@trnddc03> <1151457839.004852.256290@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151461469.295261.210750@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Who sells rebuild kits for RCA 45rpm players? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 08:39:57 -0400 "Gerry" wrote in message news:1151461469.295261.210750@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com... > > pgonshor@aol.com wrote: >> Todd Tuckey wrote: >> > Have one of these from the 50's, but all the rubber is gone from the >> > idler >> > wheels, etc...does someone sell a kit for these little RCA record >> > players? >> > Thanks! Todd from TNT Amusements www.tntamusements.com >> >> Don't worry about the idler. Is the cartrige OK? That is what will >> cost you some bucks. >> >> Dave > > Not necessarily. You can use a modern ceramic cartridge wired for > mono. Readily available on eBay. Be careful here. Modern cartridges sold on eBay puts out 0.4 to 0.7V only. Many amplified 45 players need at least 2V for full output. Some players used a 1V cartridge, using a modern replacement means you will have to crank up the volume higher for decent output which means also more noise. Check what the original cartridge is before buying a modern replacement. Syl Article: 336408 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: VTVM's Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:54:19 GMT Okay, with all of this hoopla over tube testers, which ones are better than others, etc., I've got another: What do you consider to be the best VTVM? I've got an old RCA Senior VoltOhmist that I've been using for many years. Recently it has been acting, well, rather flaky, particuarly on the ohms scale -- things like not working at all until it's been on for ten minutes, then suddenly popping up. Yes, I've got the service literature, but have been too busy to mess with it. I've also had others, which I've bought at swap meets, used for awhile, then gotten rid of cheap or free when they croaked. A few Heathkits, even a Hallicrafters. Today I purchased a B&K 177 on eBay. I figure this to be an imitation Senior VoltOhmist, but it's better looking. I'll try it out. So I'm curious -- what do others consider to be a good VTVM? Bear in mind that I've got a few VOM's as well, and digital types up the wazoo -- but there are still advantages to the analog types, such as testing pots or looking at voltage variations. I'd like to hear your thoughts. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 336409 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Re: Tube Testers Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 08:05:10 -0600 Message-ID: <21764-44A28C96-443@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151496773.936363.157130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> The Hickok that I usually use is a model 6000. I have couple more models in the 600 range. None have any place to put the cord. DON AC7PD Article: 336410 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" References: Subject: Re: VTVM's Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 08:11:48 -0700 Message-ID: <44a29c36$0$12765$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Gary, Look no further....you already have the best VTVM. The WV-98C (Senior VoltOhmist) was the 'standard' used in radio shops much like the Simpson 260 VOM was. When in high school, I worked at a shop repairing test equipment, so I was exposed to lots of different VTVM's. While most use a similar design, the WV-98C was built to last using quality components. Once calibrated properly they can be amazingly accurate. The huge, mirrored meter is another big plus. The only downside was the probe....kinda fragile. Steve p.s.-later versions of the WV-98C were built by VIZ, who also made a solid state version "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:fSvog.19244$Gh.7806@trnddc02... > Okay, with all of this hoopla over tube testers, which ones are better > than others, etc., I've got another: > > What do you consider to be the best VTVM? > > I've got an old RCA Senior VoltOhmist that I've been using for many years. > Recently it has been acting, well, rather flaky, particuarly on the ohms > scale -- things like not working at all until it's been on for ten > minutes, then suddenly popping up. Yes, I've got the service literature, > but have been too busy to mess with it. > > I've also had others, which I've bought at swap meets, used for awhile, > then gotten rid of cheap or free when they croaked. A few Heathkits, even > a Hallicrafters. > > Today I purchased a B&K 177 on eBay. I figure this to be an imitation > Senior VoltOhmist, but it's better looking. I'll try it out. > > So I'm curious -- what do others consider to be a good VTVM? Bear in mind > that I've got a few VOM's as well, and digital types up the wazoo -- but > there are still advantages to the analog types, such as testing pots or > looking at voltage variations. I'd like to hear your thoughts. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > Article: 336411 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: (OT) I hope not too off topic Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 10:20:20 -0500 Message-ID: <26434-44A29E34-274@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: She will spend that money on new clothes. cuhulin Article: 336412 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Schematic needed for Zenith Z733 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 10:27:11 -0500 Message-ID: <26433-44A29FCF-1194@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151507825.270305.93060@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I just now did a google for, Sears Trav-ler Transistor Radios The, justradios.com site advertises schematics. cuhulin Article: 336413 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44A2B509.D8F87DAD@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: What year was this radio made? References: <5435a25dov5cepmu1o3t3ofkfcrb6egnde@4ax.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 16:58:22 GMT Mark Oppat wrote: > > Zenith began using a letter code for the year in 1950. > G=1950, H=1951, J=1952 K=1953 L=1954 M= 1955 then it gets goofy... there is > T, R, Y, Z. and I dont recall what years those are. Anyways, your Z512 is > shown in the SAMS index as 1957 since its in SAMS 361-15. The index also > indicates it came in several colors as the trailing letter code (usually > lightly stamped in ink on the cabinet with the model #) calls out the color. > So, you should have a Z512G or something. G is green I think. M was Maroon > bakelite. Y is not yellow, but Gray I think. K is black. Look in the sams > for this, it'll tell you. > > Anyone wanting info on a 1946+ set should have a SAMS index handy. Get one > from the 70's, they have more older stuff in them it seems, and you dont > have to wade thru the other clutter of later stuff. > > Mark Oppat > > "Blacksmith" wrote in message > news:5435a25dov5cepmu1o3t3ofkfcrb6egnde@4ax.com... > > Zenith Z512 > > I don't see it in the books. I'm wondering what exact year it's from. > > > > > > Blacksmith > > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom > > You can use the electronic version at: http://www.samswebsite.com/ There are links below for the downloadable version. Save it to your hard drive and then install it. It lets you search by full or partial model number or by brand a lot faster than the paper version. http://www.servicesoftware.com/sams.asp is the company that prepares the database. The newest version is available, plus an update: http://home.earthlink.net/~mike.terrell/ has some useful downloads under Sams publications, like the chart showing which year Photofacts were published, and a corrected index of RC (Record Changer) and CM (Changer manuals) which covers early record changers, tape recorders and wire recorders. There is also a HTML page that can be saved and edited to keep track of the Sams in your collection. It can be edited with a text editor, or any HTML editing software. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336414 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44A2B961.594D5E27@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Speaking of Silvertone Consoles... References: <1151460133.847908.97080@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:16:55 GMT Gerry wrote: > > Under the chassis itself? Never seen that before. Most I've seen have > a large hole cut somewhere in the bottom of the cabinet near the > chassis, with perforated metal (or even perforated heavy cardstock) > covering it, and the backside essentially open with more perforated > metal covering the back opening. Is venting beneath the chassis itself > common? > > Gerry It doesn't hurt. You could even add a small muffin fan to your cabinet to make sure you get enough airflow. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336415 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: need settings to test EF86 tube on Precision Apparatus 612 tester Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:40:48 -0700 Message-ID: <37j5a2t0a6q0c9j0svodo7b35m2l7hfu2g@4ax.com> References: <1151368711.457807.317960@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1151375767.819656.145160@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1151396688.847768.324660@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 00:29:05 GMT, "Weldon Nudlpudl" wrote: >The Mystery, DB, is why a man with all of those LPs (which are worth their weight in radioactive platinum) doesn't just use some of his great wealth to establish a research lab on his estate -- let alone buy a better tube tester. They're probably all worthless, having been played far too much on one of his favored clunky "changers" with the megaton tone arms and cheap ceramic cartrdiges. Id' NEVER buy an LP OR tape from Charlie Nudo, because I know his history...and his ignorance. Article: 336416 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Jackson Dynamic tube tester Model 103-1949 vintage-$25 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:41:56 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1151396751.942922.182280@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1151409983.907183.44380@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> <1151413751.201919.168820@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <2fr2a216oa1mq9efalp8k3ao5np2kd65vg@4ax.com> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:27:04 -0400, "Mark Oppat" wrote: >Never heard of the Jackson 648??? According to the late Chris Haedt, its one >of the best of all time. The Jackson 648 couldn't hold a candle to any of the Gm reading Hickoks....sorry. Article: 336417 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Jackson Dynamic tube tester Model 103-1949 vintage-$25 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:43:18 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1151396751.942922.182280@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1151409983.907183.44380@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> <1151413751.201919.168820@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <2fr2a216oa1mq9efalp8k3ao5np2kd65vg@4ax.com> <1151459214.270772.128960@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 27 Jun 2006 18:46:54 -0700, Charlie Nudo masquerading as "CAINE" >from his spam address wrote: >DeserTBob doesn't know that- he couldn't catch crabs from a 2 dollar >hooker. Typical response from a NE Penna ginzo whose brain is filled with toxins readily found in the immediate area, as well as from toxic fumes fed to him from the Centralia, PA mine fire every day since 1962. Article: 336418 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Jackson Dynamic tube tester Model 103-1949 vintage-$25 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:44:59 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1151396751.942922.182280@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1151409983.907183.44380@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> <1151418559.638011.79790@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151430997.348647.73780@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151441392.851930.159430@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> On 27 Jun 2006 13:49:52 -0700, "toxcrusadr" wrote: >Are Jacksons really ALL bad? What bugs me about whatshisname is the >sweeping generalizations. Surely they made at least ONE half decent >tester. I only have Hickoks, so no experience. Anybody? I make "sweeping generalization" when they're true. The 648 was Jackson's attempt to try to compete with Hickok, and they just couldn't do the job. Any Hickok would be more accurate and dependable. Jackson emission testers are for buffoons like Charlie Nudo, nothing more. Even a later Sencore would be better...and that's not saying much! Article: 336419 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Jackson Dynamic tube tester Model 103-1949 vintage-$25 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:47:23 -0700 Message-ID: <2ij5a2hhqr0dtjfvk79e60t9u1mekibqj6@4ax.com> References: <1151396751.942922.182280@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1151409983.907183.44380@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> <1151418559.638011.79790@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151430997.348647.73780@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151441392.851930.159430@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:07:04 GMT, robert casey wrote: >Emission testers only test the part of the tube that most commonly wears >out (the cathode). That and leakage paths. Good in a repair shop, but >not that useful in a tube manufacturer's development lab. I don't think >you could pick out matching tubes for a push-pull audio amp that well >with an emission tester though. There's no real difference between >brands except for build quality and convenience. You forgot design. Hickoks consistantly had the best, most realistic readouts of a tube's Gm, really not an easy task, considering the multitude of vacuum tubes marketed over the years. Hickoks such as the 728 and a few others were indeed lab grade instruments. Just plain "emissions" can have no bearing on a tube's Gm capacity...there are simply too many variables, especially as tube size shrunk and interelectrode capacitance rose. Article: 336420 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Jackson Dynamic tube tester Model 103-1949 vintage-$25 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:49:24 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1151396751.942922.182280@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1151409983.907183.44380@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> <1151418559.638011.79790@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151430997.348647.73780@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151441392.851930.159430@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> <1151459358.754619.84770@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> On 27 Jun 2006 18:49:18 -0700, Chalie Nudo of Drums, PA masquerading as "CAINE" using his spam address scribbled: >Yup- he's a real Picasso, but uses a roller. Rather an ersatz Picasso than an organ grinding ginzo, anyday. Better get that monkey trained! The IRS and State of PA want their money, and I want my bounty check! Article: 336421 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Mechanical Amplification Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:50:16 -0700 Message-ID: References: <24106-44A17448-784@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 11:09:12 -0700, oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) wrote: >Only indirectly. The _net energy gain_ (ie, amplification) is provided >by the spring motor's driving the stylus (analogous to B+ supplying an >AF output stage). The horn's role of impedance-matching would be >analogous to the output xfmr. You are correct. Article: 336422 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Mechanical Amplification Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 11:52:15 -0700 Message-ID: References: <24106-44A17448-784@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> <12a387dsq08qab4@corp.supernews.com> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:19:28 -0400, "Hagstar" wrote: > > > From db: >> >>Congratulations on reinventing the >>wheel. >> >>The amplification was provided by the >>horn, which is an acoustic transformer > >A transformer isn't an amplifier. > >I knew some arm chair quarterback would dismiss the idea without absorbing >it. You have a long history of not understanding basic facts, yourself. What Mark wrote is correct, that the spring is part of the energy chain, as is the horn. Although not correctly an "amplifier," the increased acoustical-mechanical efficiency gained by the horn yields a much higher output. Article: 336423 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Jackson Dynamic tube tester Model 103-1949 vintage-$25 References: <1151396751.942922.182280@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1151409983.907183.44380@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> <1151418559.638011.79790@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151430997.348647.73780@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151441392.851930.159430@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> <2ij5a2hhqr0dtjfvk79e60t9u1mekibqj6@4ax.com> Message-ID: <54Bog.4104$ii.3090@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 19:50:25 GMT DeserTBoB wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:07:04 GMT, robert casey > wrote: > > >>Emission testers only test the part of the tube that most commonly wears >>out (the cathode). That and leakage paths. Good in a repair shop, but >>not that useful in a tube manufacturer's development lab. I don't think >>you could pick out matching tubes for a push-pull audio amp that well >>with an emission tester though. There's no real difference between >>brands except for build quality and convenience. > > > You forgot design. Hickoks consistantly had the best, most realistic > readouts of a tube's Gm, really not an easy task, considering the > multitude of vacuum tubes marketed over the years. Hickoks such as > the 728 and a few others were indeed lab grade instruments. > > Just plain "emissions" can have no bearing on a tube's Gm > capacity...there are simply too many variables, especially as tube > size shrunk and interelectrode capacitance rose. OOps, meant to say that there's no real difference between *emission testers*. Of course the high end Hickoks are excellent. I have a TV7 tester that does gm. But if I just want to screen out the duds from a box of tubes picked up at a hamfest, I'll just use a simple emissions tester (I had a "Superior" tester that had a rotary switch that picked out the cathode of a tube under test. I'd just set the heater selector switch to pin 4 (covers both 7 and 9 pin miniatures) and to 6.3V, and the "sensitivity" knob to 40%, and then just plow thru many tubes. Do the shorts first, anything showing more than the other end of the heater got looked up, then go to emission and rotate the cathode switch to find positions that showed substantial emissions, one per cathode (you could see looking at the tube how many orange spots there were, one orange spot per cathode). Anything strange got put aside for further tests, otherwise I figured that it was a good or at least serviceable tube. Crude, but fast.) Article: 336424 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Tube Testers Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:53:50 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1151441923.981373.118940@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 27 Jun 2006 13:58:44 -0700, "Peter Wieck" wrote: >Tube testers are largely luxuries as instruments, to be purchased >_AFTER_ a good isolation transformer, a properly metered Variac, a very >good VOM, a good signal generator, even after a good signal tracer. >Equal to a full-voltage cap tester, but before an Oscilloscope, just. True, but I'd get a decent 'scope first. You can test Gm in situ on any tube just having the basic instrumentation mentioned, and "gas" and most definitely a short will show up in short order just by looking at the voltages and currents in that particular stage. Having a 'scope allows you to caliculate actual Gm under actual working conditions assuming you have a signal applied to the circuit. I have a Cardmatic from many years ago that rarely, if ever, sees service doing service work unless I need to match Gm or if I'm having a very strange problem that defies normal troubleshooting procedure. In such cases, gas or a nearly worn out cathode is usually the culprit. No, the "life" test is not "smoke and mirrors," if it is interpreted properly. A worn cathode, short of thorium, will decrease strongly in emission as the filament current is decreased. The Western Electric standard was a 10% drop in applied filament voltage would yield less than a 2% drop in emission. Anything beyond that, the tube would be considered "end of life," although it would certainly still be usable at full rated filament voltage. Reason? After AT&T abandoned counter EMF cells and shorting relays for string voltage regulation after WW II, if commercial power should (and would) fail, the filament and plate battery plant voltages would drop from "float" voltage to quiesscent and then below as the cells would chemically reverse, and an "end of life" tube would turn "bad" in a hurry, along with attendant alarms and failures. Quicker starting emergency generator plants introduced in the '60s pretty much obviated that problem, although a really worn out tube would fail even in that short a time. Not a big headache on a single voice grade circuit, but this would result in massive failures on carrier and microwave systems, which is why we ran "filament activity" tests on all tube powered gear on a routine basis. The name, of course, is a misnomer, having been applied before indirectly heated cathodes became the norm. In consumer-grade service, the "life" test is somewhat hard to judge. If the device is used continuously, the tube probably will fail its needed Gm in a short period. But for a seldom used radio or the like, it could go on giving good service for years. The problem lies in that every manufacturer of consumer-grade test boxes had their own idea of what a "life" test would be. I still use the "10% solution" just by dialing back the filament voltage 10% and watch what happens to Gm. Many big beam power tubes will take a lot of time to have their cathodes cool off sufficiently to get a good test, something that old-time radio fans need not worry about, except for maybe an XXL6 audio output. Article: 336425 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FA: Heathkit Tube Amplifier Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:57:16 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:30:29 GMT, "Katmandu" wrote: >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190002465415&ssPageName=ADME:L:DS:US:8 I'm betting the Peerless output tranny is fried, common on these when bumbling users would wrongly terminate the output. If so, it's basically worth about 1¢. If working, it was a fine amplifier...in its day. I see it still has the original Mullards, which alone might be worth the investment...if they're good. Someone who sells vintage amps like this that lists them as "not tested" usually know something they're not copping to. Article: 336426 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Jackson Dynamic tube tester Model 103-1949 vintage-$25 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:00:30 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1151396751.942922.182280@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 21:25:21 -0400, "Ken Doyle" wrote: > >Caine must enjoy being ridiculed, otherwise he'd conform. He's: 1.) too stupid to realize he's being ridiculed almost universally, and... 2.) has mental impairments with paranoid delusions and other cognitive disorders that make him think he's impervious to such criticisms. Note some of his previous posts elsewhere where he believes he's above the law, the mark of a patient with paranoid delusional fantasy disorder. His whackoid political and religious views simply reinforce that long distance diagnosis. Article: 336427 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: thierry_._stora_@_cegetel_._net Subject: Re: Repairing a BC-348 - An update and a few more questions.... Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:38:39 +0200 Message-ID: References: <2cidnQ7So4AfdTzZnZ2dnUVZ_oKdnZ2d@velocitywest.com> Dean, >... but it's missing >the dynamotor. I need to locate one because once I have the >set restored and working, it's going aboard our Museum's B-17 >Flying Fortress (which means it has to run on 28 VDC). Any >leads will be appreciated. have a look at the following URL, they advertise DM21s at a reasonable price: http://www.armyradio.com/arsc/customer/home.php?cat=86 Regards, Thierry Stora http://www.chapelon.net Article: 336428 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: thierry_._stora_@_cegetel_._net Subject: Re: Repairing a BC-348 - An update and a few more questions.... Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:52:28 +0200 Message-ID: References: <2cidnQ7So4AfdTzZnZ2dnUVZ_oKdnZ2d@velocitywest.com> oups, apologies for the mistake, everyone knows that the DM21 runs on 12-14 volts ... Sorry! On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:38:39 +0200, thierry_._stora_@_cegetel_._net wrote: >Dean, > >>... but it's missing >>the dynamotor. I need to locate one because once I have the >>set restored and working, it's going aboard our Museum's B-17 >>Flying Fortress (which means it has to run on 28 VDC). Any >>leads will be appreciated. > >have a look at the following URL, they advertise DM21s at a reasonable >price: > >http://www.armyradio.com/arsc/customer/home.php?cat=86 > >Regards, >Thierry Stora > >http://www.chapelon.net Thierry Stora http://www.chapelon.net Article: 336429 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Mechanical Amplification Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:45:12 -0700 Message-ID: <12127-44A2EA58-813@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> References: >From db, addressing Hagstar: >You have a long history of not >understanding basic facts, yourself. Tell you what, mack. John H has a pretty damn impressive history of understanding basic facts, considering the few years it's been since he started from scratch in this field. He's been a respected participant and valued contributor here from day one, and don't need no flak from interloping sociopathic ne'r-do-wells. Bill(oc) Article: 336430 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "george conklin" References: Subject: Re: FA: Heathkit Tube Amplifier Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:36:53 GMT "DeserTBoB" wrote in message news:qjn5a214k29shpn5elm4ibide2hdub84t1@4ax.com... > On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 17:30:29 GMT, "Katmandu" > wrote: > >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190002465415&ssPageName=ADME:L:DS:US:8 >> > > I'm betting the Peerless output tranny is fried, common on these when > bumbling users would wrongly terminate the output. If so, it's > basically worth about 1¢. If working, it was a fine amplifier...in > its day. I see it still has the original Mullards, which alone might > be worth the investment...if they're good. Someone who sells vintage > amps like this that lists them as "not tested" usually know something > they're not copping to. You be it was tested and found not to be working. From adouglasatgis.net Sat Jul 1 10:56:26 EDT 2006 Article: 336431 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Tube Testers Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:39:21 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Lines: 13 Message-ID: <1ts5a25g3bqeksmbjle5snbeci819rhp41@4ax.com> References: <1151441923.981373.118940@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151448922.251521.239190@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1151450939.576716.75920@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1151453690.822454.58510@d56g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1151455629.121059.144110@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1151456613.251376.166680@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <42q3a2t9jhrm9khfneg86pf3ouqgr8n5aq@4ax.com> <1151495957.408949.250780@y41g2000cwy.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-875.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!pln-e!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:336431 Hi, >Is not the Eico 667 an MC tester? They tried to make it sound that way in their ads, but no, it's a dynamic emission tester, like the Jacksons and Precisions. Neither does it test for grid-current ("gas," although several conditions besides gas can cause grid current). Alan If I do say so myself (toot toot) "Tube Testers and Classic Electronic Test Gear" is a good read. From adouglasatgis.net Sat Jul 1 10:56:26 EDT 2006 Article: 336432 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: VTVM's Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:41:49 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <44a29c36$0$12765$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-425.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!pln-w!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:336432 Hi, The all-time best is the hybrid Hewlett-Packard 410C, which cost several times as much as service-grade instruments. The previous model 410B from the 1950s is also good. General Radio made an equivalent model 1800A or B, with walnut cabinets no less. Other makers offered lab-grade VTVMs too, Technology Instrument Corp. for one, founded by H.H. Scott. Alan Article: 336433 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jim rozen Subject: Re: What was "Phonevision"? Date: 28 Jun 2006 14:47:46 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1151379504.347848.137300@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In article , DeserTBoB says... > >On 26 Jun 2006 20:38:24 -0700, "Terry S" wrote: > >>Anyone know? > >Early Pay TV, a scam cooked up by Zenith with the largess of the >aldermen of Chicago. It ignited the "no pay TV" furor of the late >'50s. Funny how people now seem willing to shell out exhorbitant >prices for cable TV, which is, of course, Pay TV. Once HDTV replaces >analog and broadcast patterns shrink by 50% or more, the public will >be trapped, but good. That is, if anyone still cares about watching network TV. They're shooting themselves in the foot as near as I can tell. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== Article: 336434 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Carter, k8vt" Subject: Re: VTVM's References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:00:43 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > I've got an old RCA Senior VoltOhmist that I've been using for many years. > Recently it has been acting, well, rather flaky, particuarly on the ohms > scale -- things like not working at all until it's been on for ten minutes, > then suddenly popping up. Yes, I've got the service literature, but have > been too busy to mess with it. Clean the switches, replace the battery(ies) and clean the battery contacts. The battery is only used for the "Ohms" ranges and typically the contacts are prone to corrosion over the years. > So I'm curious -- what do others consider to be a good VTVM? Call me cynical, but my answer would be "none". ;-) I vote for any semi-quality (or better) DVM. The whole reason for VTVMs (as opposed to VOMs) was their 11 meg input impedance (compared to VOMs with their typical 20,000 ohms per volt). Any semi-modern DVM has 11 meg input impedance. As you point out, the analog read out does have some value when doing things like alignments--although most of the better DVMs have an analog bar graph as part of their display for use in peaking/dipping circuits. Article: 336435 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" Subject: A good radio day Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:16:34 GMT It was a good collecting day here in the Charlotte area today. I got a call from the lady that runs a local antique mall Sunday a week ago about a radio she had gotten in. She said it was a Bosch radio and looked like a treasurer chest. I didn’t get there that day and since they don’t open until Wednesday I forgot about it. I remembered it again last Sunday night, again it was too late to get there. This time a made myself a note and stuck it to the dash of the van. I went by there right after work. I almost couldn’t believe how nice a shape it’s in. It’s completely original finish, original cloth power cord in nice shape. And full of mostly globe shape tubes. I didn’t even try very hard to haggle her down, I just bought it. I got it home and took it right out to the little work shop. After a quick look over I plugged it into my AC volt/amp meter box that’s plugged into my variac. For about 20 minutes I slowly brought the power up, at about 90 volts I start hearing static. I turned the tuning knob and there’s a station. NO HUM. It’s an American Bosch model 200. I don’t have a schematic on it yet, does anyone know what the pull switch is on the front panel? Maybe band change? Also what’s the third wire in the power cord for? It’s cloth covered and comes out before the original plug. Maybe antenna? I’ll post some photos on the binaries newsgroup and maybe on a web page if I get time. She also had a couple of other things, one is another American Bosch, this time it’s just a cabinet. It’s marked Amborola, looks like it’s for a late battery set, low cabinet with lift up top. There’s a small dial window in the top that lifts up. There’s also a Zenith floor model, couldn’t find the model number but I think it’s 40 or 41. Black dial small tear drop push/pull buttons on either side of center dial. Really nice original cabinet. missing the tow concentric knobs. Looks really nice, I wish I had room for it. If anyone’s interested in either of these items let me know and I’ll tell you where they are. Even for a work day it was a good radio day. 73, Ron -- Radio Collection Web Page, http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com WANTED! http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html Hard to find 2 pin mic connectors for BA rigs. http://radioheaven.homestead.com/2pinmicplug.html Article: 336436 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Philco 511- now worth $2,000! Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 19:22:37 -0400 Message-ID: <2af59a24491868cc1356b0ffc6731652@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Boy did the value of these jump! Just for laughs, http://cgi.ebay.com/EXTREMELY-RARE-EARLY-1900s-PHILCO-TUBE-RADIO-511_W0QQitemZ330002315300QQihZ014QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem My 511 is now more valuable than the AK breadboards! Let's not start a bidding war here, I saw it first!! -Pete O. Article: 336437 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith repair question From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 00:26:27 GMT In article , blacksmith1@wowway.com says... > > >The z733 I'm working on does not light up. The clock work. I traced AC Switch is off... or broken? John k9uwa Article: 336438 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:22:49 -0600 Message-ID: <21107-44A31D59-446@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: The guy is looking for a record player not a childrens playground fight . Mike if you have not been compleatly turned off already ... Look around for a school record player box style portable . You can only play one at a time on these or there should be several thrift shops around there who would have some of mid 60`s or 70`s console with a good record player . Just make sure you look at the speeds on the phono to make sure it has what you need and plug it in & try it before you buy . Article: 336439 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Zenith repair question Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 00:35:57 GMT Now let me get this straight -- you check across the filament of the rectifier, and you get 110 volts across it. You check the filament of the output tube, and you get 110 volts across it. Same with each of the others. Aren't you really saying you get 110 volts across the STRING? With all of the tubes in place, and power applied, and you being very careful, what do you measure across each tube filament? I would think the filament string should be easy to troubleshoot if you just take your time. If they don't light up, somethings open somewhere. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:psp5a29t2jh6hosqpru55f5unuvmslq6dp@4ax.com... > The z733 I'm working on does not light up. The clock work. I traced > the resistance from through all the tubes and all tubes test good and > the resistance check of the filament circuit checks out. > > There's 110 volts approximately across each filament, yet none of them > light up. > > What gives? > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Article: 336440 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: Subject: Re: A good radio day Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 00:44:38 GMT Web page with photos of the Bosch Treasure Chest. http://radioheaven.homestead.com/Bosch200.html Ron -- Radio Collection Web Page, http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com WANTED! http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html Hard to find 2 pin mic connectors for BA rigs. http://radioheaven.homestead.com/2pinmicplug.html Article: 336441 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: VTVM's Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:06:47 -0700 Message-ID: <12127-44A327A7-830@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> References: >From William: >No, it's a digital bargraph. Well, it's digitally implemented but gives an 'analog-like' readout. Sorta like a cellphone signal level and batt.level bars. >[Runs for covers as flames start.] > >Regardless, it doesn't have the >resolution of a skinny little pointing >against a big scale. Agreed. Nothing like a skinny little for resolution. :-) oc Article: 336442 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> <7gxng.5586$8i2.8030@wagner.videotron.net> <4dSdncTRMM-vVwPZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <4kJng.10572$sM4.64222@weber.videotron.net> <1151300021.510301.104060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <2MydnZfmDtjtUgLZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com> <8aUng.25048$sM4.120366@weber.videotron.net> Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:02:36 -0400 "John Stone" wrote in message news:C0C691DA.4D67A%jmsent2@comcast.net... > My latest jaw > dropper is my new pair of Linkwitz Orion speakers. These are a must hear > for > anyone who enjoys listening to music rather than listening to "hi-fi" > I just had a look at the website about these...Reminds me of the Ariel Kit... I'm not sure about the concept where you must buy a bunch of amps, an active crossover/equalizer and what else...The author (or designer) goes in great lenght where he describes "commercial" speakers, designed solely for making a buck -to which I strongly disagree, especially those built and designed sy small shop whose owner are music lovers, not audiophiles-... But looking at the "kit" of the Orion speakers, 8 amps, an equalizer and plans at 300$ alone... Might as well buy a 10K$ commercial speakers. I know Scanspeak, Vifa, Seas, Peerless and similar speakers can offer good musicality as I had listen to many small shop design using these (and one small shop right next door) and was quite impressed, but as I said, I'm not sure about the whole idea of the Orion. And with open back speakers, the room interaction is quite important. I haven't read the whole wesbite, but I suspect the user needs to have a pretty large room with a very good controlled acoustic. In fact, using open back speakers, your room becomes the baffle. So from all this, I seriously doubt I'll ever be able to listen to a pair anywhere in Montréal since they are mostly "kit" speakers. If you know where I can listen to them, lemme know. Syl Article: 336443 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Carter, k8vt" Subject: Re: VTVM's References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 02:13:47 GMT Carter, k8vt wrote: >> As you point out, the analog read out does have some value when >> doing things like alignments--although most of the better DVMs have >> an analog bar graph as part of their display for use in >> peaking/dipping circuits. William Sommerwerck wrote: > No, it's a digital bargraph. [Runs for covers as flames start.] Yup, get your asbestos suit! :-) It's obviously a matter of semantics. To me, a "digital" read out is in--are you ready for this?-- "digits" (as in numbers). The emulation of the bar graph is not displayed in "digits", hence my not calling it "digital". Article: 336444 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> <7gxng.5586$8i2.8030@wagner.videotron.net> <4dSdncTRMM-vVwPZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <4kJng.10572$sM4.64222@weber.videotron.net> <1151300021.510301.104060@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <2MydnZfmDtjtUgLZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com> <8aUng.25048$sM4.120366@weber.videotron.net> Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:11:42 -0400 "John Stone" wrote in message news:C0C691DA.4D67A%jmsent2@comcast.net... > My latest jaw > dropper is my new pair of Linkwitz Orion speakers. These are a must hear > for > anyone who enjoys listening to music rather than listening to "hi-fi" > Update on my reading (I wrote my previous post early this morning). Pretty clever design, even if I am not too fond of using an active equalizer, the design by itself for taking care of the holes and bumps in an open back speaker is pretty clerverly done...I'll do some more reading.... I'm even more curious to listen to a pair...Do you mind if I email you for a few questions ? Syl Article: 336445 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: VTVM's Date: 29 Jun 2006 02:25:54 GMT Message-ID: References: "William Sommerwerck" (gizzledgeezer@comcast.net) writes: >> As you point out, the analog read out does have some value when doing >> things like alignments--although most of the better DVMs have an analog >> bar graph as part of their display for use in peaking/dipping circuits. > > No, it's a digital bargraph. [Runs for covers as flames start.] Regardless, > it doesn't have the resolution of a skinny little pointing against a big > scale. > > Back in 1977, I bought an evaluation kit for an Intersil DVM IC, it being a cheap way of getting a digital voltmeter at the time. I actually never made us of it, but my plan was to put it in a box with a range switch and such, and have a buffered analog meter in parallel with it. I was just going to use a small meter intended for signal strength in a radio. I knew that feature was useful. My second commercial DMM, to replace the one I bought in 1984, was bought mainly for more features. One of those was a bar readout, for that analog tuning. But it is sluggish, and I've never found it useful. Maybe it can be done so an LCD readout is fast enough, but it sure wasn't the case with mine. Michael Article: 336446 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Cabinet Seems Suitable for Withstanding Atomic Blast Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 22:32:52 -0400 Message-ID: <12a6eunhabtrl4a@corp.supernews.com> http://cgi.ebay.com/Crosley-Fiver-Tube-Radio-Cathedral-Radio_W0QQitemZ110001528816QQihZ001 John H. Article: 336447 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1151541776.674947.204440@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <85d6a290a2ujt4k4vh0dpo88kuj9aq5nmp@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Zenith repair question Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 21:33:35 -0500 Message-ID: <44a32eb2$0$9813$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:85d6a290a2ujt4k4vh0dpo88kuj9aq5nmp@4ax.com... >>pull the plug, turn the switch on and put an ohm meter across the two >>plugs. should be continuity if all the filaments and switch are good. > > Did it. I get 600K between the 2 terminals of the plug. Well, should be fairly obvious that either something is miswired or the power switch is no good. You're supposed to have 0 ohms or as close as matters there. You didn't mix up the wires going to the volume control and the switch, did you? :-) Assuming all is wired correctly you could try cleaning it. For now you could jumper across the switch terminals so the set is on whenever it's plugged in. Just be careful when/if you do that. If cleaning is unsuccessful obviously you'll need a new control. Good luck paul -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 336448 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: VTVM's Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:02:57 -0700 Message-ID: References: William Sommerwerck wrote: >> So I'm curious -- what do others consider to be a good VTVM? >> Bear in mind that I've got a few VOM's as well, and digital types >> up the wazoo -- but there are still advantages to the analog types, >> such as testing pots or looking at voltage variations. I'd like to >> hear your thoughts. > > I'm not sure why people are so hung-up on VTVMs. The only advantage I can > see is that they're great for making extremely fine tweaks. (Some DVMs have > a trending bargraph, but I don't think they have the resolution.) > > Other than that, what is the advantage that would justify a moderately bulky > instrument that has to be plugged in? > > It is the fact that it has vacuum tubes and needs to be plugged in that is appealing to many, including myself. Think about it for a minute....There is no need to worry about the condition of your batteries affecting the readings you are taking, no need to worry about batteries crapping out in the middle of a project, and no need to check the meter every couple of months to confirm that the batteries aren't leaking all over the place and damaging your meter. I worked as a production technician at a number of companies in Silicon Valley for many years, and almost without exception, the test benches at these places had meters (analog and digital) that plugged into the wall for the serious measurements. They could not afford much in the way of downtime or line stoppages due to funky issues with battery powered test gear. To be fair, there were plenty of battery-powered meters available, but these were used in situations where their portability would do the most good. Obviously, a plant electrician wouldn't use a VTVM or any other meter that required AC power, for example. Because the meter has vacuum tubes as the active components, there is a certain immunity from damage that is conferred to them that the semiconductor and passive meters can't match. If you've ever accidentally put 400+ volts of B+ on the meter leads while on the ohms scale, you begin to appreciate how bulletproof the old VTVMs are. (although the overload protection on the truly good VOMs and DMMs is excellent, you often wind up searching for a replacement for a blown fuse after a boo-boo like that). Finally, the movements on these meters are slow enough that they tend to indicate the average of a varying voltage, which makes them better for aligning the old sets. A DMM will work in this application, but the reading tends to jump around a lot, and you kind of have to mentally average the reading you are getting to get good results. -Scott Article: 336449 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: VTVM's Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 20:10:50 -0700 Message-ID: References: William Sommerwerck wrote: >> As you point out, the analog read out does have some value when doing >> things like alignments--although most of the better DVMs have an analog >> bar graph as part of their display for use in peaking/dipping circuits. > > No, it's a digital bargraph. [Runs for covers as flames start.] Regardless, > it doesn't have the resolution of a skinny little pointing against a big > scale. > > No flames here...It IS a digital bargraph....And its resolution is extremely coarse compared to an analog meter. Additionally, If you have a meter that auto-ranges, the bar graph can drive you nuts If you attempt to use it for something like an RF or IF alignment. -Scott Article: 336450 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" Subject: WTB: Brass escutcheons, dials etc... Message-ID: Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 23:38:13 -0400 Looking for round, half round or any interesting brass dials (not Philco escutcheons types with small window) and functions (On-OFF, Phones) escutcheons and bezels from 20ies radios. Repros would be great but I doubt any are available. I'm working on that issue, but this may take some time. Similar to those: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6632413551 Let me know what you have and asking prices. restoration@oldradioz.com Syl Article: 336451 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: VTVM's Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 08:36:30 GMT Scott, You've just about hit the nail on the head. Yes, these meters are indestructible, and the analog needles have a lot of advantages with their "sweep." If there's a voltage or resistance fluctuation, you can see it easily on the needle, whereas a digital meter will merely flash a bunch of meaningless numbers. But the biggest advantage is the fact that it's a piece of gear designed for use on a bench. At least 95% of all DMM's are little floppy things that you hold in one hand while trying to measure with the other. Some have a metal wire that allows the meter to sit upright -- that is until you bump the bench, then it falls on the floor. Now -- I indeed have a bench-type DMM, and it does a fantastic job for many things. For example if I want to check voltages on a tube socket, I can run from pin 1 through 8 without touching the meter because it auto-ranges. But there are applications where the VTVM just plain works better, and I couldn't live a day on the bench without it. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:e7vftb02sm9@news3.newsguy.com... > William Sommerwerck wrote: >>> So I'm curious -- what do others consider to be a good VTVM? >>> Bear in mind that I've got a few VOM's as well, and digital types >>> up the wazoo -- but there are still advantages to the analog types, >>> such as testing pots or looking at voltage variations. I'd like to >>> hear your thoughts. >> >> I'm not sure why people are so hung-up on VTVMs. The only advantage I can >> see is that they're great for making extremely fine tweaks. (Some DVMs >> have >> a trending bargraph, but I don't think they have the resolution.) >> >> Other than that, what is the advantage that would justify a moderately >> bulky >> instrument that has to be plugged in? >> >> > It is the fact that it has vacuum tubes and needs to be plugged in that is > appealing to many, including myself. > > Think about it for a minute....There is no need to worry about the > condition of your batteries affecting the readings you are taking, no need > to worry about batteries crapping out in the middle of a project, and no > need to check the meter every couple of months to confirm that the > batteries aren't leaking all over the place and damaging your meter. > > I worked as a production technician at a number of companies in Silicon > Valley for many years, and almost without exception, the test benches at > these places had meters (analog and digital) that plugged into the wall > for the serious measurements. They could not afford much in the way of > downtime or line stoppages due to funky issues with battery powered test > gear. To be fair, there were plenty of battery-powered meters available, > but these were used in situations where their portability would do the > most good. Obviously, a plant electrician wouldn't use a VTVM or any other > meter that required AC power, for example. > > Because the meter has vacuum tubes as the active components, there is a > certain immunity from damage that is conferred to them that the > semiconductor and passive meters can't match. If you've ever accidentally > put 400+ volts of B+ on the meter leads while on the ohms scale, you begin > to appreciate how bulletproof the old VTVMs are. (although the overload > protection on the truly good VOMs and DMMs is excellent, you often wind up > searching for a replacement for a blown fuse after a boo-boo like that). > > Finally, the movements on these meters are slow enough that they tend to > indicate the average of a varying voltage, which makes them better for > aligning the old sets. A DMM will work in this application, but the > reading tends to jump around a lot, and you kind of have to mentally > average the reading you are getting to get good results. > > -Scott > > > Article: 336452 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44a3b062$0$31653$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: VTVM's References: Date: 29 Jun 2006 10:50:10 GMT Carter, k8vt wrote: > It's obviously a matter of semantics. To me, a "digital" read out is > in--are you ready for this?-- "digits" (as in numbers). The emulation of > the bar graph is not displayed in "digits", hence my not calling it > "digital". Maybe 'analogue-like discrete readout' is a better description, as it indeed has nothing to do with digits. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 336453 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: Subject: Re: VTVM's Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 04:36:12 -0700 Message-ID: > It's obviously a matter of semantics. To me, a "digital" read out is > in--are you ready for this?-- "digits" (as in numbers). The emulation > of the bar graph is not displayed in "digits", hence my not calling it > "digital". This is an extremely common error. I've gotten into horrible arguments over it on rec.audio.pro. Digital = quantized. Once any value has been reduced to a finite number of enumerable steps, it's been digitized -- whether or not a number has been assigned to each value. Oh, yes... The bar graph is not "emulated". It is a real, legitimate, bar graph. It's just quantized. Article: 336454 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Voip in Amateur Radio,Voip Updated Howto, References: <1151542477.561894.120760@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> <1151543413.370847.73480@d56g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:43:55 GMT RadioGary wrote: > I'm impressed, aren't you? Actually, if you ignore all the "Ads by Google" nonsense (which was the price for hosting the site) it's a pretty informative article on VoIP. It does put all the information in one place if you have the patience to wade through it. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 336455 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Repairing a BC-348 - An update and a few more questions.... From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <2cidnQ7So4AfdTzZnZ2dnUVZ_oKdnZ2d@velocitywest.com> <1151541536.562361.319940@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:13:57 GMT In article <1151541536.562361.319940@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, analogdino@rogers.com says... > > >soon as I can get a "round tuit", a most necessary servicing device, >you will agree! >Cheers, >Roger > I got rid of my Round Tuit a few years ago ... too many projects were getting done and no time to goof off left! It was one that State Farm used to pass out to customers... John k9uwa Article: 336456 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Voip in Amateur Radio,Voip Updated Howto, From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1151542477.561894.120760@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> <1151543413.370847.73480@d56g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 14:21:35 GMT In article , jangus@socal.rr.com says... > > >it's a pretty informative article on >VoIP. It does put all the information in one place if you have the >patience to wade through it. > >Jeff We had a total internet phone in Florida last winter.. worked well most of the time.. a few outages... 40 bucks a month flat rate.. 24/7 anyplace in USA/Canada calling... John k9uwa Article: 336457 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Wanted Dodge or Plymouth 1940 Auto Radio Parts From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) Message-ID: <7mTog.1048666$xm3.918743@attbi_s21> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 16:38:27 GMT I am looking for a good chrome bezel plate escutcheon from the front of a 1940 Chrysler Radio... Dodge / Plymouth etc... email me if you have one in your junkpile.. Email to us is: k9uwa at arrl dot net John k9uwa Article: 336458 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve N." Subject: Re: Repairing a BC-348 - An update and a few more questions.... Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:42:06 -0500 Message-ID: References: <2cidnQ7So4AfdTzZnZ2dnUVZ_oKdnZ2d@velocitywest.com> <1151541536.562361.319940@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:FeRog.54705$1i1.3855@attbi_s72... > In article <1151541536.562361.319940@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, > analogdino@rogers.com says... > > ... > I got rid of my Round Tuit a few years ago ... too many projects > were getting done and no time to goof off left! ... > John k9uwa > Holy cryminy! Is that the problem? I have two of those little buggers. A wood one and a rubber one. No wonder I got no time. 73, Steve, K9DCI Article: 336459 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: What was "Phonevision"? Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:50:28 -0500 Message-ID: <26433-44A420F4-1438@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151565369.777040.142950@d56g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> I only watch NBC or CBS or ABC tv only for local city and state news and if there is stormy weather here for live continous update weather news in this state of confusion.Otherwise,I watch other tv channels on DirecTV for old,old movies I like.Some Vauderville programs are on the TCM channel now.Great Entertainment. cuhulin Article: 336460 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: hatespam@hatespam.com (El Barto) Subject: Re: Cabinet Seems Suitable for Withstanding Atomic Blast Message-ID: <44a42dbe.15011306@news.houston.sbcglobal.net> References: <12a6eunhabtrl4a@corp.supernews.com> <1151549118.474934.188280@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 19:46:35 GMT "Steven" wrote: >graham wrote: >> >> "Cabinet Seems Suitable for Withstanding Atomic Blast" >A neutron bomb will finish it, but I'd save the chassis.. I doubt it. The neutron bomb is an anti-personnel weapon, with minimal blast and heat. Article: 336461 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <1151542477.561894.120760@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> <1151543413.370847.73480@d56g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Voip in Amateur Radio,Voip Updated Howto, Message-ID: <2yWog.8848$Nv.8838@fed1read10> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:15:56 -0700 Ive been working with and on VOIP for about 10 years. It was not ready for primetime until Cisco got involved. Now its as good, if not better then a traditional PBX. As for vonage, I dont know about it... "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:PlRog.10696$FQ1.3595@attbi_s71... > In article , > jangus@socal.rr.com says... >> >> >>it's a pretty informative article on >>VoIP. It does put all the information in one place if you have the >>patience to wade through it. >> >>Jeff > > > We had a total internet phone in Florida last winter.. worked well > most of the time.. a few outages... 40 bucks a month flat rate.. 24/7 > anyplace in USA/Canada calling... > John k9uwa > Article: 336462 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: VTVM's Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:13:29 -0700 Message-ID: <27874-44A43469-836@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151608004.134200.271410@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> >From Steph: >I have a Heathkit VTVM that I use for >aligning AM radios. It's a totally sealed >metal case. > >Where does the heat from the tube >escape to? There's no vent holes. :-/ > >I've never left the thing on long enough >to find out how hot the bugger would >get... Apparently there's so little heat generated internally by just an idling tube (probably a 12AU7 or the like) and a small tranny that there's no need for venting. The instrumant case cools itself by natural convection and radiation, so it just gets a little warm. That's be my uneducated guess. oc Article: 336463 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44A43807.87FF0BC6@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: OT: '93 Mazda Cassette Deck - Advice Needed References: <1151608684.933662.78210@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:29:04 GMT toxcrusadr wrote: > > Not an antique but it does have a radio. :-] > > The tape transport seems to be stuck with a tape in it. It went IN but > not DOWN into the deck and it won't go the rest of the way IN nor will > it come OUT. This is an auto reverse, auto (electric) eject type (not > mechanical). It's a stock item, not aftermarket. It has been working > fine other than the fact that sometimes it goes into fast speed when > you put a tape in so the music is playing real fast. That appears > unrelated and is only occasional. This stuck thing happened suddenly. > > Anything simple I can do to fix it? Cleaning, lube, screw > tightening...or is it toast? The car has 100,000 on it so I'm not > looking to spend a lot of dough. Advice appreciated. > > Tox Try news:sci.electronics.repair . That is where the repair people for newer electronics hang out. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336464 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <1151542165.808224.299020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1151550037.280780.271620@d56g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1151593983.877839.130660@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A good radio day Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:05:27 GMT toxcrusadr wrote in message news:1151593983.877839.130660@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > What's the tube lineup? 51 1st RF stage, 51 2nd RF stage, 24 det., 47 output, 80 rect. Ron -- Radio Collection Web Page, http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com WANTED! http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html Hard to find 2 pin mic connectors for BA rigs. http://radioheaven.homestead.com/2pinmicplug.html Article: 336465 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44A4388F.D6B366A4@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Voip in Amateur Radio,Voip Updated Howto, References: <1151542477.561894.120760@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> <1151543413.370847.73480@d56g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <2yWog.8848$Nv.8838@fed1read10> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:31:20 GMT Bob in Phx wrote: > > Ive been working with and on VOIP for about 10 years. It was not ready for > primetime until Cisco got involved. Now its as good, if not better then a > traditional PBX. As for vonage, I dont know about it... > > "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message > news:PlRog.10696$FQ1.3595@attbi_s71... > > In article , > > jangus@socal.rr.com says... > >> > >> > >>it's a pretty informative article on > >>VoIP. It does put all the information in one place if you have the > >>patience to wade through it. > >> > >>Jeff > > > > > > We had a total internet phone in Florida last winter.. worked well > > most of the time.. a few outages... 40 bucks a month flat rate.. 24/7 > > anyplace in USA/Canada calling... > > John k9uwa The local county government offices are completely VOIP. They pulled the last of their PBX equipment last year. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336466 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44A439A7.5DE4C5D@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: VTVM's References: <1151608004.134200.271410@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <27874-44A43469-836@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:36:00 GMT Bill Sheppard wrote: > > From Steph: > > >I have a Heathkit VTVM that I use for > >aligning AM radios. It's a totally sealed > >metal case. > > > >Where does the heat from the tube > >escape to? There's no vent holes. :-/ > > > >I've never left the thing on long enough > >to find out how hot the bugger would > >get... > > Apparently there's so little heat generated internally by just an idling > tube (probably a 12AU7 or the like) and a small tranny that there's no > need for venting. The instrumant case cools itself by natural convection > and radiation, so it just gets a little warm. That's be my uneducated > guess. > oc They also use a 6AL5 for the AC voltage ranges but you're right, they only draw a few watts and depend on radiation cooling. I modified my Heathkit VTVMs to replace the flashlight battery with a simple power supply for the Ohms ranges to eliminate the problems caused by a battery that gets almost shelf life, but starts leaking before you notice its dead. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336467 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: OT: '93 Mazda Cassette Deck - Advice Needed Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 13:34:52 -0700 Message-ID: <27874-44A4396C-845@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> References: <1151610261.625542.241020@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> >From tox: >...sometimes it goes into fast speed >when you put a tape in.... and is only >occasional. I had the following problem once with a home cassette deck (not automotive)- the motor itself would overspeed occasionally. It'd intermittently go to about twice normal speed, then drop back to normal. Upon disassembly of the motor, there were three tiny, low voltage ceramic caps on the armature, connected between the commutator segments. One of the caps was shorting intermittently, causing the overspeed condition. Replacing it cured the problem. Not saying this is your problem, as it's more likely mechanical slippage as Steph suggests. oc Article: 336468 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44A45FDC.C44228E@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Tube Testers References: <1151441923.981373.118940@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:19:02 GMT cmdr buzz corey wrote: > > AuroraOldRadios wrote: > > > IMHO, how can anyone intelligently diagnose and repair a tube radio > > without determining the condition of the tubes as a beginning step? > > Of all my pieces of test equipment, the tube test is probably the least > used. Yeah, no matter how hard I try, I can't seem to test SMD ICs on any of my tube testers. ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336469 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jim rozen Subject: Re: What was "Phonevision"? Date: 29 Jun 2006 16:06:27 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1151379504.347848.137300@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1151564115.916339.158790@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> In article <1151564115.916339.158790@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com>, frenchy says... > >> That is, if anyone still cares about watching network TV. > >The top 10 rated primetime shows are still ALL on the networks. Right, but what about the folks who say, TV's just not worth it any more? It's just not worth watching because the programming has gone so far downhill. You won't see them in the stats, they don't get counted. I'm one of them. No antenna, no cable feed, no network TV. We have a set hooked up to a DVD player for when we feel like renting a film. Otherwise we care less about what gets broadcast. The discussion is about the industry throttling the information feed by changing broadcast formats. The real question to ask is, "what if they gave a party and nobody came?" Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== Article: 336470 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44A4627A.DD1438CF@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: VTVM's References: Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:30:13 GMT "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > > cmdr buzz corey wrote: > > > > Absolutely. Can't understand why some think these digital meters are so > > great. When doing an alignment, you can't beat a good analog meter. > > Have you ever tried it with a digital true RMS voltmeter that shows > 1/100 of a dB change? Analog just doesn't cut it in critical alignments > where you have to accurately measure the -3 dB points and filter ripple. Here you go: is a Fluke 9020, the model that I used for about four years, along with a Boonton 9200 digital RF milli-voltmeter. The Fluke was good to 20 MHz, and the Boonton went on up to at least 450 MHz. > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336471 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44A46343.445BF80@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: What was "Phonevision"? References: <1151379504.347848.137300@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1151564115.916339.158790@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:33:34 GMT jim rozen wrote: > > In article <1151564115.916339.158790@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com>, frenchy > says... > > > >> That is, if anyone still cares about watching network TV. > > > >The top 10 rated primetime shows are still ALL on the networks. > > Right, but what about the folks who say, TV's just not worth it > any more? It's just not worth watching because the programming > has gone so far downhill. You won't see them in the stats, > they don't get counted. > > I'm one of them. > > No antenna, no cable feed, no network TV. We have a set hooked > up to a DVD player for when we feel like renting a film. Otherwise > we care less about what gets broadcast. > > The discussion is about the industry throttling the information > feed by changing broadcast formats. The real question to ask is, > "what if they gave a party and nobody came?" I have the cheapest cable TV service available, about 20 channels and only to get the news. I would need a 40 foot or taller tower to pick up a decent picture where I live. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336472 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: VTVM's References: <1151622093.080989.141790@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <44A45D6E.F6A99959@earthlink.net> <44A4627A.DD1438CF@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:43:24 GMT Michael A. Terrell wrote:> > a Boonton 9200 digital RF milli-voltmeter. > > The Boonton went on up to at least 450 MHz. Is the Boonton any good without a probe? Bill Jeffrey Article: 336473 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44A468F5.30BA5202@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: VTVM's References: <1151622093.080989.141790@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <44A45D6E.F6A99959@earthlink.net> <44A4627A.DD1438CF@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:57:51 GMT Bill Jeffrey wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote:> > > > a Boonton 9200 digital RF milli-voltmeter. > > > > The Boonton went on up to at least 450 MHz. > > Is the Boonton any good without a probe? > > Bill Jeffrey Is any meter any good without a probe? ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336474 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Biasi" References: <1151462608.715301.275230@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: DIAL EMERGENCY! ADVICE NEEDED Message-ID: <2SZog.85$V14.83@fe09.lga> Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:02:13 -0400 wrote in message news:1151462608.715301.275230@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hi, > > I've restoring a General Electric clock radio, model #935-or 936# > (identicle) http://cm.ebay.com/cm/ck/1065-29392-2357-0? for picture. > > Very common for the period radio, but I really like it. > > > Everything went according to plan, until I started restoring the dial. > > When the radio arrived from (ebay) the dial was badly cracked. Im > managed to piece it back together with Super Glue. That worked > great,but some of the excess glue had streamed on the clear part of > the dial (all plastic). > > While I was painting the numbers back on, the look of the excess glue > got the best of me and I decided to try to remove it with a product > called Goof Off or Goo Be gone whatever. > > It seemed to work at first, the dial became clear. I thought I was a > genius. > > An hour later, the dial looked like a Frankenstein creation. The > chemicals merely moved the glue all over the dial. > > I rebulit the case...replaced all the caps..its playing like new, but > now I have this really hiddius dial. > > I'm an idiot for not leaving well enough alone..but I need help. Any > advice?? > > Does anyone of a person with a 1000 used dials type of web site? or can > I still fix the dial. > > Is there a remedy for my mistake?? > > Thanks, any info greatly appreciated! > > Barry F. > > Is there another product that remove the Hi Barry, I will second William's method. It has been my experience that when super-glue (ca) hits plastic its a done deal. You can bring the plastic back to transparency by following what William has said but it is a lot of work. Take your time. Sand with one grit until the color of the "mist" is uniform, then switch to a finer grade. I start with 400 if the scratches are not too deep and work up to 2400 before I start with paste. Sand wet. I will add one bit of personal preference, use a random orbit mouse sander. You will have to rig you own way to attach your sand paper, they don't make those grits for the sander. I use spray 3M glue and stick my paper to some old paper that goes with the sander (not course paper). Good luck. Tom > Article: 336475 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Help: I need this unobtainium control Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:32:33 +0900 Message-ID: References: <44A08440.6D8F05C0@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44A08440.6D8F05C0@earthlink.net... > Brenda Ann wrote: >> >> Dual control, 500K ohm audio taper, SPST switch. Shaft length 2". As you >> can >> see it's got really oddball shafts for each control. >> >> http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Control.jpg >> >> The e-mail is good. > > > Is there a brand name on it? It looks like an old ALPS part. You > might be able to find good elements and rebuild the bad pot. Only brand markings I can see on it is that little triangle/star symbol that Matsushita uses. Article: 336476 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44A48287.D0245E8A@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Help: I need this unobtainium control References: <44A08440.6D8F05C0@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 01:46:47 GMT Brenda Ann wrote: > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message > news:44A08440.6D8F05C0@earthlink.net... > > Brenda Ann wrote: > >> > >> Dual control, 500K ohm audio taper, SPST switch. Shaft length 2". As you > >> can > >> see it's got really oddball shafts for each control. > >> > >> http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Control.jpg > >> > >> The e-mail is good. > > > > > > Is there a brand name on it? It looks like an old ALPS part. You > > might be able to find good elements and rebuild the bad pot. > > Only brand markings I can see on it is that little triangle/star symbol that > Matsushita uses. Let me dig around and see if I still have any National/Panasonic pots around. I salvaged a lot of them over the last 35 years but I found a lot of bad ones, so there may not be anything left that are any good. -- Please insert sig file here! Article: 336477 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Help: I need this unobtainium control Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 11:29:23 +0900 Message-ID: References: <44A08440.6D8F05C0@earthlink.net> <44A48287.D0245E8A@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44A48287.D0245E8A@earthlink.net... > Brenda Ann wrote: >> >> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message >> news:44A08440.6D8F05C0@earthlink.net... >> > Brenda Ann wrote: >> >> >> >> Dual control, 500K ohm audio taper, SPST switch. Shaft length 2". As >> >> you >> >> can >> >> see it's got really oddball shafts for each control. >> >> >> >> http://www.geocities.com/lectroncity/Control.jpg >> >> >> >> The e-mail is good. >> > >> > >> > Is there a brand name on it? It looks like an old ALPS part. You >> > might be able to find good elements and rebuild the bad pot. >> >> Only brand markings I can see on it is that little triangle/star symbol >> that >> Matsushita uses. > > > Let me dig around and see if I still have any National/Panasonic pots > around. I salvaged a lot of them over the last 35 years but I found a > lot of bad ones, so there may not be anything left that are any good. > Thanks Michael, I very much appreciate the effort. Article: 336478 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: VTVM's Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 20:27:15 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1151622093.080989.141790@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <44A45D6E.F6A99959@earthlink.net> <44A4627A.DD1438CF@earthlink.net> <44A468F5.30BA5202@earthlink.net> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Bill Jeffrey wrote: >> Michael A. Terrell wrote:> >> >>> a Boonton 9200 digital RF milli-voltmeter. >>> >>> The Boonton went on up to at least 450 MHz. >> Is the Boonton any good without a probe? >> >> Bill Jeffrey > > > Is any meter any good without a probe? ;-) > > Some of the more esoteric Boonton/HP units came with a probe that was matched to the individual meter. One of these without the exact matching probe is essentially a parts unit, no matter how perfect the condition is otherwise. I see a lot of 'em at Silicon Valley flea markets and they almost always go begging if there is no probe. -Scott Article: 336479 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44A49EF7.928848D0@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: VTVM's References: <1151622093.080989.141790@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <44A45D6E.F6A99959@earthlink.net> <44A4627A.DD1438CF@earthlink.net> <44A468F5.30BA5202@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 03:48:22 GMT "Scott W. Harvey" wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > Bill Jeffrey wrote: > >> Michael A. Terrell wrote:> > >> > >>> a Boonton 9200 digital RF milli-voltmeter. > >>> > >>> The Boonton went on up to at least 450 MHz. > >> Is the Boonton any good without a probe? > >> > >> Bill Jeffrey > > > > > > Is any meter any good without a probe? ;-) > > > > > Some of the more esoteric Boonton/HP units came with a probe that was > matched to the individual meter. One of these without the exact matching > probe is essentially a parts unit, no matter how perfect the condition > is otherwise. I see a lot of 'em at Silicon Valley flea markets and they > almost always go begging if there is no probe. > > -Scott The Boonton RF meters all use basically the same probes and adapters. The meter is calibrated to the probe in use. The 9200 series can hold the calibration for several probes in memory, and you select the probe by its serial number. I have a couple damaged probes and I am looking into making hobby grade replacements for those cheap orphans. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 336480 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Schematic needed: JVC JR-S301 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 04:13:00 GMT I am helping out a friend who is interested in electronics. He was given a JVC JR-S301 receiver from his dad, and he wants to get it working correctly. I am not sure what the problem is, but a schematic would help us get started. Anyone have one they can e-mail me? REMOVETHIS from my e-mail to reply. -- Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Article: 336481 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: VTVM's Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2006 23:33:49 -0700 Message-ID: References: <44a29c36$0$12765$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:41:49 -0400, Alan Douglas wrote: >Hi, > The all-time best is the hybrid Hewlett-Packard 410C, which cost >several times as much as service-grade instruments. The previous >model 410B from the 1950s is also good. General Radio made an >equivalent model 1800A or B, with walnut cabinets no less. Other >makers offered lab-grade VTVMs too, Technology Instrument Corp. for >one, founded by H.H. Scott. So did Boonton, a fine instrument, but the 410C was by far more common, and thus, more accepted. No bench should be without a 410C. They're indispensable for anyone doing a combo of audio and RF work. dB Article: 336482 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1151671380.167474.157010@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is this Philco worth the bid price? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:38:59 -0400 "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1151671380.167474.157010@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Here's the item in question, > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280001431464&ssPageName=ADME:B:DS:US:29 > > I was bidding on this item, but I get the feeling a shill bidder is > following me with ZERO feedback, so on. Nice set, but I think the > bidding will get a bit carried away considering the condition and such. My philsophy is to never bid against a zero bidder and report all suspicious behaviour to eBay security center. There will always be another one, and most of the time, better, cheaper and without a -possible- shill... Syl Article: 336483 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1151671380.167474.157010@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is this Philco worth the bid price? Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 09:01:04 -0500 Message-ID: <44a5214c$0$9931$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Not a shill, the guy is in a different state from you. Just a new member. It *was* worth the bid until you got into that bidding war with that guy. If you intend to have this radio don't bid again until the last ten seconds before the end of the auction. paul "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1151671380.167474.157010@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Here's the item in question, > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280001431464&ssPageName=ADME:B:DS:US:29 > > I was bidding on this item, but I get the feeling a shill bidder is > following me with ZERO feedback, so on. Nice set, but I think the > bidding will get a bit carried away considering the condition and such. > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 336484 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Katmandu" References: Subject: Re: FA: Heathkit Tube Amplifier Message-ID: <5capg.6306$Eh1.339@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:04:49 GMT > Someone who sells vintage > amps like this that lists them as "not tested" usually know something > they're not copping to. No, it actually is NOT tested because there is no power cord hooked up. Also, I don't know enough about old electronics to mess with it. So.......it may work fine and it may not. I simply do NOT know. -ERIC BTW, Here's a link to the auction...... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190002465415 Article: 336485 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Katmandu" Subject: FA: Tube Amplifier Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:11:42 GMT Ends 7/1/06 20:33hrs http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190002465415 Article: 336486 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Katmandu" References: <1151319964.784324.265150@c74g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1151504980.845990.321510@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151578170.745911.133720@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Value of Tubes... Message-ID: <6iapg.6307$Eh1.5459@tornado.ohiordc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:11:14 GMT Transmitter/Amplifier WILL bring BIG bucks if you sell them to CB radio/Ham type folks. Been there, done that. :>) Go post them on those Newsgroups and you'll have folks scrambling for them! Trust me! wrote in message news:1151578170.745911.133720@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > To All, Thank you for the information. I'll post a hasty list once done > sorting. > Cheers, Steve > > DumpsterDiver wrote: > > As a very rough "rule of thumb" the fewer pins the higher the value. > > > > 4-pin audio amplifier triodes like 2A3, 45, 50, 71/71A, 112/112A, 205, > > 202, 10, VT-25 ..... > > are especially popular with the "glass audio" folks. "Big bottle" > > transmitting tubes like 203, 8005 and MANY others also have lots of > > audio fans. > > > > Anything really old like "pointy glass top tip" or "tennis ball" tubes > > are valuable. > > > > There are a few (very few) miniatures that are highly sought after. > > 1L6 is one of these. > > > > "Magic Eye" tuning indicator tubes generally have a good market. > > > > Japanese audiophiles love many Western Electric types, even rectifiers > > like the 274A/B. > > > > Even some old TV tubes, especially horizontal amplifier tubes and > > rectifiers have some value in the audio market. > > > > Most TV "series string" tubes have little value unless you sell them in > > box lots of a dozen or more. > > > > > > DD > > ================================================================ > > > > > > retrodepot@bellnet.ca wrote: > > > I've just aquired a huge box full of tubes still in their boxes, > > > (radio, tv, etc..). I've gone through them and have kept the ones I'm > > > familiar with for jukeboxes, (5U4 rectifiers, 6SK7's, OA2, 6X4, 6973, > > > 6L6GB, etc.). Alot of these tubes I don't recognise. Some are > > > transmitter tubes, (big), I've been told. I've tried scanning the net > > > for value of these but don't know what to start with, there are so > > > many! Any tubes needed out there, rare ones that I might have. Send me > > > your wants lists. I'm not looking to make money, just trying to help > > > someone in need yet at the same time, don't want to be taken for a > > > ride. > > > Cheers, Steve > Article: 336487 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Katmandu" References: <1151677844.291567.63450@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FA: Tube Amplifier Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:37:43 GMT > Katmandu wrote: > > Ends 7/1/06 20:33hrs > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190002465415 > > Yeah, may be nice, but I have an entire AJ-30 to restore to operating > status. > Cool! :>) Article: 336488 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1151671380.167474.157010@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44a5214c$0$9931$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1151679583.968361.148500@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is this Philco worth the bid price? Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:12:31 -0500 Message-ID: <44a5320c$0$9789$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1151679583.968361.148500@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com... > Different state? Hmm. > Will arrange for local pickup only (no shipping > Nah, shill. Dude, Indiana isn't that far from you. :-) -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 336489 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: VTVM's Date: 30 Jun 2006 15:31:17 GMT Message-ID: References: <44a29c36$0$12765$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> DeserTBoB (desertb@rglobal.net) writes: > On Wed, 28 Jun 2006 17:41:49 -0400, Alan Douglas > wrote: > >>Hi, >> The all-time best is the hybrid Hewlett-Packard 410C, which cost >>several times as much as service-grade instruments. The previous >>model 410B from the 1950s is also good. General Radio made an >>equivalent model 1800A or B, with walnut cabinets no less. Other >>makers offered lab-grade VTVMs too, Technology Instrument Corp. for >>one, founded by H.H. Scott. > > So did Boonton, a fine instrument, but the 410C was by far more > common, and thus, more accepted. > > No bench should be without a 410C. They're indispensable for anyone > doing a combo of audio and RF work. > Why is the C better than the B? I've had a 410B for almost sixteen years, and had the use of one for years before that. I always assumed the 410B was the ultimate. I don't have a clue how the C differs. Michael Article: 336490 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1151671380.167474.157010@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is this Philco worth the bid price? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:33:51 GMT "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1151671380.167474.157010@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Here's the item in question, > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280001431464&ssPageName=ADME:B:DS:US:29 > > I was bidding on this item, but I get the feeling a shill bidder is > following me with ZERO feedback, so on. Nice set, but I think the > bidding will get a bit carried away considering the condition and such. > No evidence at all of shilling, just extremely poor bidding strategy. The best strategy is placing your one and only bid in the last few seconds of any eBay auction. You may wish to thank the other bidder for the opportunity to have learned this. jim menning Article: 336491 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1151666941.837328.13480@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1151668289.025933.209340@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1151679363.487069.105170@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1151681324.582248.8280@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FS-Hickok variable power supply-6.3/12.6 VAC/-100 to 400 VDC-$25 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:38:22 GMT "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1151681324.582248.8280@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > CAINE wrote: >> RadioGary wrote: >> > I've thrown out better shxt than this. >> > >> > CAINE wrote: >> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&item=140002919491&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 >> >> >> sure you did...that is a 5-output power supply. Go on Ebay and see >> what they go for new. >> >> it's nicer than what you have on the bench now, no doubt > > OH OK, good selling point, look for my bid then. not Another used one just closed a few days ago for over $100. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7631277898 jim menning Article: 336492 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Is this Philco worth the bid price? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1151671380.167474.157010@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151679583.968361.148500@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 15:37:58 GMT In article <1151679583.968361.148500@x69g2000cwx.googlegroups.com>, n9vu@yahoo.com says... > > Paul is correct ... its just a newbie.. he bid a few bucks at a time until he passed you up... you came back and bid again and he again did the same thing... lay in wait .... while your waiting... go to www.esnipe.com and get signed up.... buy some bid points ... then pick the largest price your willing to pay and put that into esnipe system to do your bidding for you .... now if your NOT going to bid on it.... please let me know and I will ... yup I am also in Indiana... but have friends in lots of places that would pick up radio ... this thing is the 15 toober Philco ... that is one super radio when properly restored... you won't be sorry having it... John k9uwa Article: 336493 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: FS-Hickok variable power supply-6.3/12.6 VAC/-100 to 400 VDC-$25 References: <1151666941.837328.13480@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1151668289.025933.209340@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:25:47 GMT I realize it's one of Caine's auctions, but specifically, what's wrong with the Hickok power supply? Jeff RadioGary wrote: > I've thrown out better shxt than this. > > CAINE wrote: > >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&item=140002919491&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 > > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 336494 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Back to Bogalusa Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 12:14:13 -0500 Message-ID: <24730-44A55BE5-52@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> I used to know a gal who is from Bogalusa,Louisiana and she went to the same school I went to back in the 1950's.Maybe if I can look her up,she might know something about the old Bogalusa Furniture Company and when they made some Bogalusa wind up phonographs.Somehow,I doubt if she would know.I sort of think that company went out of business not long after World War Two.Bogalusa isn't too far South of me.Maybe if I went there,perhaps some old timers there could tell me something about the old Bogalusa Furniture Company.I just might have a rare old wind up phonograph here for all I know. cuhulin Article: 336495 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" Subject: delay lines anyone --- somewhat OT, but for those who play with older digital stuff Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 13:38:29 -0700 Message-ID: <2q2ba257h2plbsue4f7k14eiam2ik5t463@4ax.com> I have a tube of 21 delay lines (DIP packages) from older generation memory boards and computer boards - I don't see myself using these - if anyone wants the lot for $5total including postage, please drop me a note directly (e.g. unmangle the email address in my signature block and send me a note) - I'd like to get these to someone who can use them rather than have them here taking up space. Bill www.wbnoble.com to contact me, do not reply to this message, instead correct this address and use it will iam_ b_ No ble at msn daught com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 336496 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Is this Philco worth the bid price? Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:58:05 -0400 Message-ID: <12ab431u67e8c0@news.supernews.com> References: <1151671380.167474.157010@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44a5214c$0$9931$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:44a5214c$0$9931$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... > Not a shill, the guy is in a different state from you. Just a new member. > It *was* worth the bid until you got into that bidding war with that guy. > If you intend to have this radio don't bid again until the last ten > seconds before the end of the auction. > > paul How do you know what state he is in? I don't see that anywhere in his profile...? Article: 336497 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1151671380.167474.157010@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44a5214c$0$9931$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12ab431u67e8c0@news.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Is this Philco worth the bid price? Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:18:41 -0500 Message-ID: <44a587df$0$9917$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message news:12ab431u67e8c0@news.supernews.com... > How do you know what state he is in? I don't see that anywhere in his > profile...? Magic. Actually, the way I did it was to do an advanced search for seller ID and show the list of similar IDs. When you do this the state and country are shown. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 336498 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> <7gxng.5586$8i2.8030@wagner.videotron.net> <4dSdncTRMM-vVwPZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1151342056.479787.76870@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151407992.129720.153410@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1151539874.134260.70530@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1151619373.455224.3880@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <4LudnWDsUtgTqzjZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@bright.net> Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 14:30:36 -0700 Message-ID: > I'm following this with interest and I have a question. Should I or > should I not coat my Goodmans Axiom 22s with Damar varnish? I know this is a joke, but the answer is no. You don't want to coat any driver with a stiff, brittle material. It will probably degrade the sound. It's possible that a silicone spray (such as Silspray) might provide some protection and sonic improvement, but that's speculation. Article: 336499 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: videointerchange Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 16:26:27 -0500 Message-ID: <16960-44A59703-88@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> www.videointerchange.com/vintage_78s.htm You might find that website interesting and informative. cuhulin Article: 336500 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Theresa McCarty" References: <1151671380.167474.157010@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is this Philco worth the bid price? Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:45:50 -0400 Message-ID: yahoo search http://www.philcoradio.com/tech/values.htm Article: 336501 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: I Guess This Page Proves... Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:04:59 -0400 Message-ID: <12abbgvrfgbgae8@corp.supernews.com> ....that grillcloth and toner no longer matter (you must be logged in to the 'Bay)- http://search-completed.ebay.com/_W0QQcatrefZC5QQfbdZ1QQfclZ3QQfisZ2QQflocZ1QQfposZ05461QQfromZR6QQfrppZ200QQfsclZ1QQfsooZ1QQfsopZ1QQfssZ1QQftrtZ1QQftrvZ1QQnojsprZyQQpfidZ0QQsaaffZafdefaultQQsacatZQ2d1QQsacqyopZgeQQsacurZ0QQsadisZ200QQsargnZQ2d1QQsaslZsnoopyradiosQQsaslcZ0QQsaslopZ1QQsofocusZbsQQsspagenameZhQ3ahQ3aadvsearchQ3aUS John H. Article: 336502 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Is this Philco worth the bid price? Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:09:19 -0400 Message-ID: <12abbp4j58ljm5d@corp.supernews.com> References: <1151671380.167474.157010@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44a5214c$0$9931$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:44a5214c$0$9931$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... > It *was* worth the bid until you got into that bidding war with that guy. Ahem, I'd pay $70- just for the Acoustic Clarifiers. This radio is worth a bit more. I agree, though- only a fool bids more than ten seconds before auction end. John H. Article: 336503 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1151671380.167474.157010@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44a5214c$0$9931$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12abbp4j58ljm5d@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Is this Philco worth the bid price? Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:15:21 -0500 Message-ID: <44a5a337$0$9815$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Hagstar" wrote in message news:12abbp4j58ljm5d@corp.supernews.com... > Ahem, I'd pay $70- just for the Acoustic Clarifiers. This radio is worth a > bit more. I agree, though- only a fool bids more than ten seconds before > auction end. Well, yeah, but I was trying to make a point. The current price is $50 higher than it needs to be because of this bidding pattern. I actually would like to have this set for myself because it's very close by but since the condo is for sale, my entire shop is in boxes and all my radios in storage (except a restored one I'm listening to), I'd feel kind of silly buying it just to leave it sit in a storage unit for who knows how long. Maybe when the next one comes along. paul -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 336504 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <12abbgvrfgbgae8@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: I Guess This Page Proves... Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 18:17:18 -0500 Message-ID: <44a5a3ac$0$9807$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Hagstar" wrote in message news:12abbgvrfgbgae8@corp.supernews.com... > ....that grillcloth and toner no longer matter (you must be logged in to > the 'Bay)- You missed it, John, there was a whole Forum thread about this seller. One of the members met him and reported back. http://antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=57082 -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 336505 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:25:36 -0400 From: Stewart Schooley Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> <7gxng.5586$8i2.8030@wagner.videotron.net> <4dSdncTRMM-vVwPZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1151342056.479787.76870@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151407992.129720.153410@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1151539874.134260.70530@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1151619373.455224.3880@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <4LudnWDsUtgTqzjZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@bright.net> Message-ID: William Sommerwerck wrote: >>I'm following this with interest and I have a question. Should I or >>should I not coat my Goodmans Axiom 22s with Damar varnish? > > > I know this is a joke, but the answer is no. You don't want to coat any > driver with a stiff, brittle material. It will probably degrade the sound. > > It's possible that a silicone spray (such as Silspray) might provide some > protection and sonic improvement, but that's speculation. > > DAMN!!!! I follow a thread where two guys are trying to outdo each other in showing off what they know about loudspeakers and both think it is a joke when I ask a perfectly good question about coating paper cones with damar varnish. Here's the first hit I found on Google; http://www10.big.or.jp/~dh/tips/dammar.html THe Full Range Driver Forum has had many, many, many posts on this subject including some from me. Problem is, they have moved a couple times and archives have been lost. Too bad, you and Peter could get an education if you could access them. Stewart Article: 336506 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: I Guess This Page Proves... Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:21:36 -0400 Message-ID: <12abg0msgp439b@corp.supernews.com> References: <12abbgvrfgbgae8@corp.supernews.com> <44a5a3ac$0$9807$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:44a5a3ac$0$9807$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... > > You missed it, John, there was a whole Forum thread about this seller. I don't read the Forum as much as I used to it's true. I'm a bit tired of some of it, dog tired, you might say........ John H. Article: 336507 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 20:24:26 -0400 From: Stewart Schooley Subject: Re: where can i buy a good record player? References: <11051-449E7DB1-149@storefull-3131.bay.webtv.net> <7gxng.5586$8i2.8030@wagner.videotron.net> <4dSdncTRMM-vVwPZnZ2dnUVZ_vGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1151342056.479787.76870@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1151407992.129720.153410@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com> <1151539874.134260.70530@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1151619373.455224.3880@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <4LudnWDsUtgTqzjZnZ2dnUVZ_tmdnZ2d@bright.net> Message-ID: William Sommerwerck wrote: >>>>I'm following this with interest and I have a question. Should I or >>>>should I not coat my Goodmans Axiom 22s with Damar varnish? > > >>>I know this is a joke, but the answer is no. You don't want to coat any >>>driver with a stiff, brittle material. It will probably degrade the > > sound. > > >>>It's possible that a silicone spray (such as Silspray) might provide some >>>protection and sonic improvement, but that's speculation. > > >>DAMN!!!! I follow a thread where two guys are trying to outdo each other >>in showing off what they know about loudspeakers and both think it is a >>joke when I ask a perfectly good question about coating paper cones with >>Damar varnish. > > >>Here's the first hit I found on Google; >>http://www10.big.or.jp/~dh/tips/dammar.html > > >>THe Full Range Driver Forum has had many, many, many posts on this >>subject including some from me. Problem is, they have moved a couple >>times and archives have been lost. Too bad, you and Peter could get an >>education if you could access them. > > > > But I _answered_ your question seriously. > > It's not clear what this substance is. If it increases the internal damping > of the driver material, it could very well improve the sound in the way the > listener described. Note, however, that this particular listener is, like > most Japanese listeners, more interested in euphony than accuracy. > > Paper cones do not make the best full-range drivers. Those I've heard > (including some used in mini systems) have a dry, grainy, two-dimensional > sound. (This includes the KLH.) This is probably due to the lack of internal > damping, and higher levels of distortion than would be obtaied with even a > simple two-way system. > > There is a famous 2" (!!!) full-range metal driver from England, but I've > never heard it. It might be very good. > > I looked at the Full Range Driver website and had to laugh. If one has room > for an electrostatic system or a good planar magnetic -- what, exactly, is > the point of full-range cone driver? This is rather like asking for a good > steak, and rejecting filet mignon when it's offered. > > Ad Hominum, Ad Hominum!!! You were obviously confronted with something you were unaware of and responded by belittling the poster in the web site and also the Full Range Driver Forum without having any idea of the knowledge, experience and reputation of people who have posted there. I expected more from you. It doesn't matter what you think about paper cones. My question concerned the use of Damar on speakers that do have paper cones. Stewart Article: 336508 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: FS: Lansing Radio Meet From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 00:34:50 GMT Anyone need a Variable Bench Supply? ... think I have three different ones in the garage plus the one on the bench... don't need 4 of them if anyone is going to Lansing and interested in cheap and zero shipping .... let me know... Also going to Lansing... Consoles .. about 10-15 of them ... most will be $200 and under prices... just too many of them here.. did Inventory the other day... 92 Consoles ... way too many!.. Some of them need new homes... John k9uwa Article: 336509 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <12abbgvrfgbgae8@corp.supernews.com> <44a5a3ac$0$9807$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12abg0msgp439b@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: I Guess This Page Proves... Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:50:42 -0500 Message-ID: <44a5b988$0$9844$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Hagstar" wrote in message news:12abg0msgp439b@corp.supernews.com... > I don't read the Forum as much as I used to it's true. I'm a bit tired of > some of it, dog tired, you might say........ He doesn't post anymore. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 336510 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Wanted Dodge or Plymouth 1940 Auto Radio Parts From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <7mTog.1048666$xm3.918743@attbi_s21> <1151700196.414670.240490@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 00:58:09 GMT In article <1151700196.414670.240490@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, philsvintageradios@yahoo.ca says... > > > > Hi Phil... take a look at this auction.... that is the same radio as the one we are looking for the parts for... maybe Gary Tayman help us out here a little... or Mark Oppat?.. the Mopar 802 radio... there are several of them up on fleabay this week they have chrome bezels and chrome buttons where the 1940 Mopar 800 didn't have them?.. will the buttons and bezel >from the 802 fit on the 800?... This is an 802 Another 802 thats a completed auction so you have to be signed in to look at it... this one had really nice chrome on it.. So... question is... will the front chrome bezel and buttons off the 802 fit on the 800?... customers car is a 1940 Plymouth ... Radio plays well now... but he would like better cosmetic parts if we could find them! all help appreciated.. John k9uwa >John would you have a picture or anything? I have a few old car radios, >it is a shot in the dark but without a pic it is difficult for me to >know if that one is in the pile. > >Phil >reply back at philsvintageradios at shaw dot ca > >John Goller, k9uwa wrote: >> I am looking for a good chrome bezel plate escutcheon from the front >> of a 1940 Chrysler Radio... Dodge / Plymouth etc... email me if you >> have one in your junkpile.. >> >> Email to us is: k9uwa at arrl dot net >> >> John k9uwa > Article: 336511 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: I Guess This Page Proves... Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:56:08 -0400 Message-ID: <12ablhtcan8a65a@corp.supernews.com> References: <12abbgvrfgbgae8@corp.supernews.com> <44a5a3ac$0$9807$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <12abg0msgp439b@corp.supernews.com> <44a5b988$0$9844$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:44a5b988$0$9844$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... > > He doesn't post anymore. Well good then, I'll tune in more. Anyway, I was surprised to see how much Snoopy does sell. John H. Article: 336512 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: I Guess This Page Proves... Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:51:17 -0600 Message-ID: <19336-44A5D515-175@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: <44a5b988$0$9844$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Yes it proves Not everyone cares if any piece of furniture has toner or dark edges John . I enjoyed many of your postings that had nothing to do with ebay Lately it seems you have been taken prisoner by to many objects and their perfection . Give in man .. put it on a leaf :-) How are you doing in your new house ? is it full yet ? how is the yard & land coming ? Article: 336513 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Lansing Radio Meet Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 22:02:01 -0400 Message-ID: <12ablsvi72gmjd2@corp.supernews.com> References: "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:Kqjpg.13065$FQ1.11435@attbi_s71... > 92 Consoles ... way too many!.. John- Figure out a "recipe" and ruthlessly put stuff on the truck accordingly. Having seen your pictures, I suggest loading every single console with pushbuttons of any type. There's no really really NICE, quality radio with a single pushbutton on it. They are the Mark of Cain, out with ALL of them I say!!! John H. Article: 336514 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <12ablsvi72gmjd2@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Lansing Radio Meet Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 21:10:00 -0500 Message-ID: <44a5cc1e$0$9823$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Hagstar" wrote in message news:12ablsvi72gmjd2@corp.supernews.com... >There's no really really NICE, quality radio with a single pushbutton on >it. They are the Mark of Cain, out with ALL of them I say!!! My Stromberg 245M may care to disagree with you about that point. :) Which isn't to say that the 240's metal escutcheon isn't better looking than the 245's plastic one. But it's all right. And I'm not going to get to go to the show to see all what everyone's bringing. Bummer. p -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 336515 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Who posted about hairspray on old loudspeakers? Date: Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:00:31 -0600 Message-ID: <19336-44A5D73F-176@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: Ok i ``flicked`` my driver and now he wont take me anywhere .. I ``flicked`` my loudspeaker and flung a hole in it . put varnish on it and ``flicked`` again and now i have 2 holes in the loudspeaker and a wet varnish finger . The loudspeaker sounds sounds hollow now . Whats the next step ? Article: 336516 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1151666941.837328.13480@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1151668289.025933.209340@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FS-Hickok variable power supply-6.3/12.6 VAC/-100 to 400 VDC-$25 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 02:34:08 GMT I don't know -- it looks like a decent power supply to me. Not interested personally as I have a Heathkit which works very well, but it looks like it would be a nice unit. There's nothing wrong with a Fisher stereo either -- they're pretty nice. As for the seller, I'm not making any comments either way as I have never purchased from him. Since I don't need the product, and knowing full well the daggers that continue to be thrown back and forth continually, all I plan to do is . . . . . . duck. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:fgcpg.16862$Z67.12661@tornado.socal.rr.com... >I realize it's one of Caine's auctions, but specifically, what's > wrong with the Hickok power supply? > > Jeff > > RadioGary wrote: >> I've thrown out better shxt than this. >> >> CAINE wrote: >> >>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&item=140002919491&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 >> >> > > -- > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 336517 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <7mTog.1048666$xm3.918743@attbi_s21> <1151700196.414670.240490@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wanted Dodge or Plymouth 1940 Auto Radio Parts Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 02:43:20 GMT This is Gary Tayman chiming in . . . I was unable to view any of those eBay listings. It said they had been removed, but I don't know if there's something in my browser that might have triggered something goofy -- I've had a few things lately. All I can tell you is there are a lot of Mopar radios out there, and there are variations. I don't think the variations are with the model, i.e. Chrysler vs. Plymouth or Dodge, but by model year. Also there were basic and deluxe models. Some have plastic buttons, some have chrome buttons, some have electronic buttons with chrome caps. The bad news is that the plastic buttons were made of a poor material and are prone to disintegrate into sand. There are no replacements that I know of, which kinda frosts me, as there is certainly a market for them. Heck, if they can make replacement buttons for a Packard, they can do it for a Mopar. One outfit told me they would be interested in making a mold, but they needed an original button to work with -- anyone? As for compatibility between the various models of bezels and buttons, I just plain don't know. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:BMjpg.57062$1i1.22293@attbi_s72... > In article <1151700196.414670.240490@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > philsvintageradios@yahoo.ca says... >> >> >> >> > > Hi Phil... take a look at this auction.... > > 0001684346> > > that is the same radio as the one we are looking for the parts for... > > maybe Gary Tayman help us out here a little... or Mark Oppat?.. > the Mopar 802 radio... there are several of them up on fleabay > this week they have chrome bezels and chrome buttons where the > 1940 Mopar 800 didn't have them?.. will the buttons and bezel > from the 802 fit on the 800?... > > This is an 802 > 0000194768> > > Another 802 thats a completed auction so you have to be signed in > to look at it... this one had really nice chrome on it.. > > 02-Radio-NR_W0QQitemZ300001031666> > > > So... question is... will the front chrome bezel and buttons off > the 802 fit on the 800?... customers car is a 1940 Plymouth ... > Radio plays well now... but he would like better cosmetic parts > if we could find them! > > all help appreciated.. > John k9uwa > > > >>John would you have a picture or anything? I have a few old car radios, >>it is a shot in the dark but without a pic it is difficult for me to >>know if that one is in the pile. >> >>Phil >>reply back at philsvintageradios at shaw dot ca >> >>John Goller, k9uwa wrote: >>> I am looking for a good chrome bezel plate escutcheon from the front >>> of a 1940 Chrysler Radio... Dodge / Plymouth etc... email me if you >>> have one in your junkpile.. >>> >>> Email to us is: k9uwa at arrl dot net >>> >>> John k9uwa >> > Article: 336518 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Lyndell Scott" References: Subject: Re: Who posted about hairspray on old loudspeakers? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 04:55:55 GMT I sometimes spray speaker cones with aerosol varnish to make the paper tougher, not necessarily stiffer. The varnish absorbs into the paper and does not stay on the surface. Never tried this with brushing varnish as it may not absorb as well into the paper. -- Lyndell Scott Audio Antiques http://geocities.com/lfscott@flash.net Article: 336519 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Is this Philco worth the bid price? From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <1151671380.167474.157010@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <6frpg.79900$mF2.26631@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 09:28:34 GMT On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:07:56 GMT, Phil Nelson wrote: > I don't believe in playing eBay mindgames or trying to puzzle out what other > (possibly crackpot) bidders are up to. Just bid the max that you're willing > to pay for it, then find something else to do until the auction is over. Imagine how much in this world you would have to forgo if you paid the very most that you were willing to pay on each item that you _did_ buy. I acknowledge that your correct in implying that, for any bidding strategy, there's some loon out there who will respond by pushing up the price higher that he would had your done somethign different. Bidding right-away tells some loons to bid furiously against you; postponing convinces some bidders, who would otherwise not bid, that they have a chance. (Of course, slap-fighting -- quickly returning to bid again each time that one is out-bid -- is practically guaranteed to push the price to or above rational ceilings.) Still, I'm failry convinced that there are strategies that, over-all, work better than that which you propose. Not that I'd here share such a strategy. ;-) Article: 336520 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Is this Philco worth the bid price? From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <1151671380.167474.157010@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 09:31:10 GMT On Fri, 30 Jun 2006 19:07:56 GMT, Phil Nelson wrote: > I don't believe in playing eBay mindgames or trying to puzzle out what other > (possibly crackpot) bidders are up to. Just bid the max that you're willing > to pay for it, then find something else to do until the auction is over. Imagine how much in this world you would have to forgo if you paid the very most that you were willing to pay on each item that you _did_ buy. I acknowledge that your correct in implying that, for any bidding strategy, there's some loon out there who will respond by pushing up the price higher that he would had you done something different. Bidding right-away tells some loons to bid furiously against you; postponing convinces some bidders, who would otherwise not bid, that they have a chance. (Of course, slap-fighting -- quickly returning to bid again each time that one is out-bid -- is practically guaranteed to push the price to or above rational ceilings.) Still, I'm failry convinced that there are strategies that, over-all, work better than that which you propose. Not that I'd here share such a strategy. ;-) Article: 336521 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Wanted Dodge or Plymouth 1940 Auto Radio Parts From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <7mTog.1048666$xm3.918743@attbi_s21> <1151700196.414670.240490@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 09:49:11 GMT In article , caradio@verizon.net says... > > Hi Gary .. try it this way.... 1940 radio like the one we are trying to fix ebay # 200001684346 1941 46 47 48 radio with much nicer chrome stuff ebay # 300001031666 also listed as 41,46, 47 ebay # 320000194768 John >This is Gary Tayman chiming in . . . > >I was unable to view any of those eBay listings. It said they had been >removed, but I don't know if there's something in my browser that might have >triggered something goofy -- I've had a few things lately. > >All I can tell you is there are a lot of Mopar radios out there, and there >are variations. I don't think the variations are with the model, i.e. >Chrysler vs. Plymouth or Dodge, but by model year. Also there were basic >and deluxe models. Some have plastic buttons, some have chrome buttons, >some have electronic buttons with chrome caps. The bad news is that the >plastic buttons were made of a poor material and are prone to disintegrate >into sand. There are no replacements that I know of, which kinda frosts me, >as there is certainly a market for them. Heck, if they can make replacement >buttons for a Packard, they can do it for a Mopar. One outfit told me they >would be interested in making a mold, but they needed an original button to >work with -- anyone? > >As for compatibility between the various models of bezels and buttons, I >just plain don't know. > > >-- >Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > >"John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message >news:BMjpg.57062$1i1.22293@attbi_s72... >> In article <1151700196.414670.240490@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, >> philsvintageradios@yahoo.ca says... >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> Hi Phil... take a look at this auction.... >> >> > 0001684346> >> >> that is the same radio as the one we are looking for the parts for... >> >> maybe Gary Tayman help us out here a little... or Mark Oppat?.. >> the Mopar 802 radio... there are several of them up on fleabay >> this week they have chrome bezels and chrome buttons where the >> 1940 Mopar 800 didn't have them?.. will the buttons and bezel >> from the 802 fit on the 800?... >> >> This is an 802 >> > 0000194768> >> >> Another 802 thats a completed auction so you have to be signed in >> to look at it... this one had really nice chrome on it.. >> >> > 02-Radio-NR_W0QQitemZ300001031666> >> >> >> So... question is... will the front chrome bezel and buttons off >> the 802 fit on the 800?... customers car is a 1940 Plymouth ... >> Radio plays well now... but he would like better cosmetic parts >> if we could find them! >> >> all help appreciated.. >> John k9uwa >> >> >> >>>John would you have a picture or anything? I have a few old car radios, >>>it is a shot in the dark but without a pic it is difficult for me to >>>know if that one is in the pile. >>> >>>Phil >>>reply back at philsvintageradios at shaw dot ca >>> >>>John Goller, k9uwa wrote: >>>> I am looking for a good chrome bezel plate escutcheon from the front >>>> of a 1940 Chrysler Radio... Dodge / Plymouth etc... email me if you >>>> have one in your junkpile.. >>>> >>>> Email to us is: k9uwa at arrl dot net >>>> >>>> John k9uwa >>> >> > > Article: 336522 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Old answering machine Message-ID: <07tpg.146$iW2.27@trnddc03> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 11:36:28 GMT I suppose a lot of it depends on what you need to do to get this one going. Why doesn't it work? Do the reels not turn, is the audio dead, is there no power? If it's a fuse, it should be easy to fix. If the capstan, belts, and rollers are melted, go look for something else. Then again, maybe the reason it was slow is because the battery went dead? If you have a regular reel-to-reel to play it on, why not feed the audio into your computer as it is? I believe some of the digital software has some sort of speed correction, and you may be able to manipulate it digitally to get to the right speed. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "philo" wrote in message news:La2dndKp2sTAwTvZnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@athenet.net... >I have a 40 year old answering machine (Electronic Secretary) > > It has a reel to reel recorder with a tape that can hold well over 24 > hours > worth of messages... > so I never bothered to rewind it. > > I got it maybe 20 years ago and kept using it until it finally died. > > When cleaning the house the other day I came across it and was going to > dispose of it...but then realized it has the only recordings of my > father's > and my granmother's > voice...so I wanted to keep the tape. > > > I put the tape in a standard reel to reel player...but at 1 7/8 ips > the tape is playing a little too fast. The Electronic Secretary seems to > be > using > a non-standard speed of 1 3/4 ips. > > I want to eventually store the tape as a .wav file on my computer and have > three > possibilites: > > 1) Repair the answering machine > > 2) Slow down my reel to reel recorder > > 3) Record the tape directly to my computer and see if there is > software to slow it down electronically > > > Although I really do want to dispose of the extremely bulk answering > machine... > I am not sure I want to repair something with no collectors value... > or is it possible the thing might have an antique value? > > Article: 336523 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <7mTog.1048666$xm3.918743@attbi_s21> <1151700196.414670.240490@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wanted Dodge or Plymouth 1940 Auto Radio Parts Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 11:47:21 GMT Yes, obviously the 40 is different from the later ones, in that there is a valley between the dial and the pushbuttons on the 40. This is also the deluxe radio (all 3 are) with the electronic pushbuttons. At least you've got the pushbuttons, as the chrome ones don't disintegrate. I certainly don't have any of these radios here -- the only Mopar I have of this type is actually a Motorola 2 piece -- the control unit has cables for the radio on the firewall. I find it strange because the original is one piece, and Motorola also made one piece units that are very similar -- in fact the biggest difference is that the Mopar is painted brown and the Motorola is painted teal. My suggestion would be to search for Mopar used parts dealers and see if any of them have a junk radio of that type. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:ryrpg.57611$1i1.32069@attbi_s72... > In article , caradio@verizon.net says... >> >> > > Hi Gary .. try it this way.... > > 1940 radio like the one we are trying to fix ebay # 200001684346 > > 1941 46 47 48 radio with much nicer chrome stuff ebay # 300001031666 > > also listed as 41,46, 47 ebay # 320000194768 > > John > > >>This is Gary Tayman chiming in . . . >> >>I was unable to view any of those eBay listings. It said they had been >>removed, but I don't know if there's something in my browser that might >>have >>triggered something goofy -- I've had a few things lately. >> >>All I can tell you is there are a lot of Mopar radios out there, and there >>are variations. I don't think the variations are with the model, i.e. >>Chrysler vs. Plymouth or Dodge, but by model year. Also there were basic >>and deluxe models. Some have plastic buttons, some have chrome buttons, >>some have electronic buttons with chrome caps. The bad news is that the >>plastic buttons were made of a poor material and are prone to disintegrate >>into sand. There are no replacements that I know of, which kinda frosts >>me, >>as there is certainly a market for them. Heck, if they can make >>replacement >>buttons for a Packard, they can do it for a Mopar. One outfit told me >>they >>would be interested in making a mold, but they needed an original button >>to >>work with -- anyone? >> >>As for compatibility between the various models of bezels and buttons, I >>just plain don't know. >> >> >>-- >>Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >>Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >>http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> >> >> >>"John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message >>news:BMjpg.57062$1i1.22293@attbi_s72... >>> In article <1151700196.414670.240490@h44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, >>> philsvintageradios@yahoo.ca says... >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> Hi Phil... take a look at this auction.... >>> >>> >> 0001684346> >>> >>> that is the same radio as the one we are looking for the parts for... >>> >>> maybe Gary Tayman help us out here a little... or Mark Oppat?.. >>> the Mopar 802 radio... there are several of them up on fleabay >>> this week they have chrome bezels and chrome buttons where the >>> 1940 Mopar 800 didn't have them?.. will the buttons and bezel >>> from the 802 fit on the 800?... >>> >>> This is an 802 >>> >> 0000194768> >>> >>> Another 802 thats a completed auction so you have to be signed in >>> to look at it... this one had really nice chrome on it.. >>> >>> >> 02-Radio-NR_W0QQitemZ300001031666> >>> >>> >>> So... question is... will the front chrome bezel and buttons off >>> the 802 fit on the 800?... customers car is a 1940 Plymouth ... >>> Radio plays well now... but he would like better cosmetic parts >>> if we could find them! >>> >>> all help appreciated.. >>> John k9uwa >>> >>> >>> >>>>John would you have a picture or anything? I have a few old car radios, >>>>it is a shot in the dark but without a pic it is difficult for me to >>>>know if that one is in the pile. >>>> >>>>Phil >>>>reply back at philsvintageradios at shaw dot ca >>>> >>>>John Goller, k9uwa wrote: >>>>> I am looking for a good chrome bezel plate escutcheon from the front >>>>> of a 1940 Chrysler Radio... Dodge / Plymouth etc... email me if you >>>>> have one in your junkpile.. >>>>> >>>>> Email to us is: k9uwa at arrl dot net >>>>> >>>>> John k9uwa >>>> >>> >> >> > Article: 336524 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Lyndell Scott" References: <1151753200.081769.272270@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Who posted about hairspray on old loudspeakers? Message-ID: <1Ftpg.113041$H71.108064@newssvr13.news.prodigy.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 12:12:45 GMT The paper in some speakers becomes to fragile with age that just normal use causes tears in them, usually near the surround. Using something to toughen the paper may help prevent that from happening. Most speakers need nothing. -- Lyndell Scott Audio Antiques http://geocities.com/lfscott@flash.net Article: 336525 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" Subject: American Bosch Treasure Chest Message-ID: <21vpg.6199$so3.4270@southeast.rr.com> Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 13:46:38 GMT I made some additions to my American Bosch Treasure Chest web page, http://radioheaven.homestead.com/Bosch200.html Check it out if you're interested 73, Ron -- Radio Collection Web Page, http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com WANTED! http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html Hard to find 2 pin mic connectors for BA rigs. http://radioheaven.homestead.com/2pinmicplug.html Article: 336526 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: Old answering machine References: <1151754713.250094.24310@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 01 Jul 2006 09:23:11 -0500 RadioGary wrote: > The software slowing down thing seems to be the most logical solution. > You seem to already have the material (computer and software) to do > this with, so keep that as the number one answer so to speak. No > telling how long it would be before the machine would again (even after > you fix it) malfunction. At least if you digitally archive the > recording you'll have that for a longer time than you will have the old > answering machine. Isn't that your prime goal? :) > I 3rd that opinion. You're extremely lucky, given that the machine has a non-standard speed, that the tracks line up with the heads of your R to R. Archive the audio ASAP. You can manipulate it later. Speed differences are inconsequential. I've been digging through old mini cassettes trying to find the last recording of a late friend for years...I know it's around here somewhere.... jak > philo wrote: >> I have a 40 year old answering machine (Electronic Secretary) >> >> It has a reel to reel recorder with a tape that can hold well over 24 hours >> worth of messages... >> so I never bothered to rewind it. >> >> I got it maybe 20 years ago and kept using it until it finally died. >> >> When cleaning the house the other day I came across it and was going to >> dispose of it...but then realized it has the only recordings of my father's >> and my granmother's >> voice...so I wanted to keep the tape. >> >> >> I put the tape in a standard reel to reel player...but at 1 7/8 ips >> the tape is playing a little too fast. The Electronic Secretary seems to be >> using >> a non-standard speed of 1 3/4 ips. >> >> I want to eventually store the tape as a .wav file on my computer and have >> three >> possibilites: >> >> 1) Repair the answering machine >> >> 2) Slow down my reel to reel recorder >> >> 3) Record the tape directly to my computer and see if there is >> software to slow it down electronically >> >> >> Although I really do want to dispose of the extremely bulk answering >> machine... >> I am not sure I want to repair something with no collectors value... >> or is it possible the thing might have an antique value? > >