Article: 338147 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Biasi" References: Subject: Re: Found- New PhotofinishTtrick Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:46:20 -0400 "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message news:CaCdnbYdwsppsFvZnZ2dnUVZ_o-dnZ2d@bright.net... > Every once in a while I fish around in Google Groups to see what other > groups are doing that might be useful to this group. Found a really neat > idea on rec.models.scale, a group that does lots of decal work. > > If you put ordinary clear packing tape on a laser print, rub it on good, > and then soak it in water for 5 minutes or so, you can rub off the paper > and the ink will be trapped on the tape. > > It will look transparent so it needs a super thin coating of white over > the ink. I used watered down cheap acrylic paint and brushed on a really > thin coat. > > Used a thin coat of Minwax's Polycrylic to glue it on an acrylic painted > board and shot spray can Deft on it. It didn't look quite right, but I > thought, I've had my fingers all over this tape and rubbing hard doing it. > I did another one and this time I washed off the tape with a little Dawn > dish liquid before lacquering. It looked good and after sitting in direct > sunlight for over an hour it still looked good. > > It is thinner than ordinary printer paper and much, much thinner than > color laser prints. Googled and found that my tape is 2 mil thick. Found > that EZ Start brand Standard Mailing Tape is 1.6 mil thick so I will look > for it > > My big interest in this is duplicating those Zebrawood strips some radios > have and I will pursue it as time permits. > > It is so simple for you to try this. Put a strip of tape over any magazine > photo, soak it in water and then rub off the paper. > > Stewart Hi Stewart, Laser printers don't use ink. The toner is a fusible plastic that gets melted to the paper by the fuser. The method you describe will work for laser printers but will give poor results if an ink jet printer is used. You may want to try putting a piece of paper over the front of the tape, after you have stuck it to the desired print, and then lightly running an iron over it. The toner will re-fuse and you can soak off the paper in water. It makes a nice decal. Regards, Tom Article: 338148 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lee Babcock Subject: Re: more Worbud? References: <9Tpxg.4508$bP5.3462@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <44c650f1_2@x-privat.org> Date: 25 Jul 2006 19:12:17 +0200 radionutz wrote: > Hey people! > Something that I don't understand (so what else is new?) > I have posted questions about my Worbud all over the place. On Yahoo antique > radios group, On the forum. On the Alt. binaries newsgroup and here on the > ant.radio-phono group and I have not gotten any kind of a response not even > hey I never heard of this thing. Is there some kind ov Voo Doo contcted with > this thing and no one wants to touch it or what? LOL :-) > > DON > Don..... when I saw your post here the other day, I did a little searching, and if it's on the net, I can usually find it. I didn't find much except: Worbud is a Polish name and seems to be a variant of Warbud The name is common in Poland with heavy duty involvement in manufacturing and the sciences including electronics and post-secondary education. The name Worbud Associates suggests that they were perhaps manufacturing under licence If you can find/decipher a serial number on it, I'll bet you will find it a low number. I suspect it was an operation that failed early and they didn't make very many units. If you can find a date on it, it may indicate that they went out of business due to the onset of war. Have you looked inside at the clock to see if it carries a date or who made it? Are you sure it is 50's? Looks more 40's to me. Regards Lee Article: 338149 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Oldradiodan" Subject: Re: Oscillation Stromberg Carlson 1121PL Date: 25 Jul 2006 10:13:50 -0700 Message-ID: <1153847630.624372.146400@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: TerryJ wrote: > This is a chassis that is being refurbished to put in a 'Frankenradio' that > I building. > > Schematic snippet is from a Stromberg Carlson 1121PL from 1946. > http://home.comcast.net/~suptjud/PhaseInverterModn.JPG > The diagram on the right is my attempt to 'simplify' the schematic. A > complete schematic is here. > http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/292/M0021292.pdf > > The circuit oscillates at around 150kHz without the added 250pF cap from the > speaker connection to the cathode of the 6SC7. All resistors are within > 5%and caps have been replaced and tubes substituted. I even subbed 6F6s for > the original 6V6s. > The power supply originally was a cap input design with 340v and 230v > outputs and used big shunt resistors to stabilize the voltage when a wire > recorder was not connected. I changed it to a choke input to reduce the heat > in the radio. The change made no difference in the oscillation problem but > did reduce maximum output since plate voltage dropped to 270V on the 6V6s. > > It is completely stable with the added 250pF cap. Even at full volume I see > no oscillation bursts in the waveform. Without the cap there is a constant > high frequency signal on G1. The original symptom was distorted audio using > the original speaker. Before I determined that it was oscillating it melted > the voice coil destroying the speaker. I subbed a PM speaker in a proper > enclosure and sound now is remarkably good for a 60 year old radio. I don't > think SC would sell a design that was inherently unstable... or would they? > > It appears that the signal is coupled from triode 2 to 1 via the cathode > resistor AC drop. The 68K resistor in the grid of triode 1 provides feedback > to keep the output signals equal...? There is also feedback from the plate > of the output tube V1 to the plate of inverter tube triode 2 through the > 1.5meg resistor. > > The wire recorder must have had its own amp. The connector appears to have > only B+ , 6.3V AC and audio. The radio had a 5U4 originally. Since the > recorder was not available (perhaps never?) I put in a 5V4 when it was > converted to choke input. The whole chassis is a lot cooler and works great. > It just bugs me that I had to 'modify' the audio section to make it work. > > > > -- > Kind regards, > Terry Judkins > http://home.comcast.net/~suptjud > What if one day we all find out that the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all > about?! Article: 338150 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: Subject: Re: Found- New PhotofinishTtrick Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 17:42:46 GMT Hi! > It is thinner than ordinary printer paper and much, much thinner than > color laser prints. If you have a color laser printer, this might lend an interesting variety to the prints and extend the capabilities of what you can do. Do you have some pictures (preferably on a place other than the binaries, because they won't last long there for me) of what you did? I'm trying to visualize the concept. William Article: 338151 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Mike Subject: Re: Found- New PhotofinishTtrick Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 13:44:24 -0400 Message-ID: <7slcc2lv8qns44i2c8vpdq5t5mlh68iuct@4ax.com> References: On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 10:43:09 -0400, Stewart Schooley wrote: >Every once in a while I fish around in Google Groups to see what other >groups are doing that might be useful to this group. Found a really neat >idea on rec.models.scale, a group that does lots of decal work. > >If you put ordinary clear packing tape on a laser print, rub it on good, >and then soak it in water for 5 minutes or so, you can rub off the paper >and the ink will be trapped on the tape. > >It will look transparent so it needs a super thin coating of white over >the ink. I used watered down cheap acrylic paint and brushed on a really >thin coat. > >Used a thin coat of Minwax's Polycrylic to glue it on an acrylic painted >board and shot spray can Deft on it. It didn't look quite right, but I >thought, I've had my fingers all over this tape and rubbing hard doing >it. I did another one and this time I washed off the tape with a little >Dawn dish liquid before lacquering. It looked good and after sitting in >direct sunlight for over an hour it still looked good. > >It is thinner than ordinary printer paper and much, much thinner than >color laser prints. Googled and found that my tape is 2 mil thick. Found >that EZ Start brand Standard Mailing Tape is 1.6 mil thick so I will >look for it > >My big interest in this is duplicating those Zebrawood strips some >radios have and I will pursue it as time permits. > >It is so simple for you to try this. Put a strip of tape over any >magazine photo, soak it in water and then rub off the paper. > >Stewart You may want to take a look at the waterslide decal paper these people have. They have it for inkjet and for laser/copier. http://www.lazertran.com/ Mike ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Sir Julian Huxley - Humanist, atheist and science popularizer, Professor of Zoology, President of UNESCO 25 yrs ago in a radio interview "I suppose that the reason that we lept at the origin (of the species) was because the idea of God interfered with our sexual mores." Article: 338152 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: WTD: owners manual for B&K 1466 o'scope Date: 25 Jul 2006 10:47:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1153849629.971435.96040@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> $10 at goodwill. Looks like it works and should be adequate for my modest needs. Not found on bama. Article: 338153 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <9Tpxg.4508$bP5.3462@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: more Worbud? Message-ID: <9Psxg.96471$1i1.57431@attbi_s72> Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 17:47:49 GMT Hi! > Something that I don't understand (so what else is new?) I think Phil Nelson put it best on his radio website--a lot of radios were made, and some were very common. As such, some radios just won't have anything written about them, whether common or not. Maybe the radio is rare enough that few exist and nobody who has had the good fortune to find one has taken the time to write about it. It's a nice looking set...does the main radio separate from the clock body as your pictures suggest? William Article: 338154 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Philco 41-605 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:50:26 GMT Oh, the things I get roped into . . . I received a phone call from a furniture refinisher nearby. Somebody brought him a console radio that's a family heirloom. Actually it's a beautiful cabinet; one I wouldn't mind having myself. He wants the radio totally restored. So, after taking a look, I brought home the chassis, speaker, and turntable. Yes, it looks like I'll be delving into a "home" radio! The chassis actually doesn't look bad -- very simple; a recap, new dial string, bada bing! The turntable -- well, if anyone wants to chime in, I'm welcome for suggestions. I know Syl can rebuild the cartridge, but who does rubber idlers. I know Bill Turner used to, but didn't he just hand it to someone else? Also, the dial cover is torn, so whoever is doing these, please speak up. The platter also needs flocking -- and Mark, do you have a pushbutton that says "12"? Before the refinisher begins stripping, he wants to ensure he can get decals. I've got a partially-used decal sheet, with only the smaller "PHILCO" on it -- I can be safe in assuming one of the larger ones is correct. On the radio, I can read what appears to be "B'DC'ST" and "SW" on the center knob, and possibly "TUNING" on the third. I would assume the first is either "ON-OFF VOLUME" or just "VOLUME" but if someone can verify that I'd be grateful. More than likely the decal sheet offered by AES will have all of this. Also the grill cloth has a diamond pattern. Maybe, the top left pattern on page 58 of the AES catalog is correct if turned 90 degrees -- again, can someone verify? I can certainly do the chassis. However everything else may need help from the rest of you. Basically what I want is to check availability and price before digging into this project, so I'll take all the responses I can get. Thanks in advance. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 338155 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: art@myantiqueradio.com Subject: Re: sparton bluebird Date: 25 Jul 2006 11:53:34 -0700 Message-ID: <1153853614.565801.69140@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1153764589.515365.215900@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> I wonder if this is it http://cgi.ebay.com/1930S-Art-Deco-SPARTON-BLUEBIRD-566-Radio_W0QQitemZ130009798277QQihZ003QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Syl wrote: > "Tim Mullen" wrote in message > news:ea3pml$iqe$1@reader2.panix.com... > > In <29038-44C56040-56@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> goodguyy@webtv.net > > (Ken G.) writes: > > > >>YEP in other words a ``novelty radio`` just like a radio that looks like > >>a lamp or chest . > > > > I've heard it was supposed to be an abstract representation of a > > biplane (triplane?) in the sky. The blue mirror is the sky, the > > feet sorta correspond to the landing gear, and, uh... Well, I did > > say "abstract". > > Interesting. First time I hear about this and indeed it sure looks like > the Red Baron in the sky, the dial chromed ring being the propeller > and the feet the wheels for the landing gear. Interesting design > considering Von Richtofen was buried in 1918 and this radio > designed in the 30ies. I wonder what the Nocturne represents... > > Syl Article: 338156 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lee Babcock Subject: Re: more Worbud? References: <9Tpxg.4508$bP5.3462@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <9Psxg.96471$1i1.57431@attbi_s72> Message-ID: <44c66972_3@x-privat.org> Date: 25 Jul 2006 20:56:50 +0200 William R. Walsh wrote: > Hi! > It's a nice looking set...does the main radio separate from the clock body > as your pictures suggest? > > William As a piece of furniture, it is what is called an Art Deco Waterfall design Regards Lee Article: 338157 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: Found- New PhotofinishTtrick References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 14:06:36 -0500 William R. Walsh wrote: > Hi! > >> It is thinner than ordinary printer paper and much, much thinner than >> color laser prints. > > If you have a color laser printer, this might lend an interesting variety to > the prints and extend the capabilities of what you can do. > > Do you have some pictures (preferably on a place other than the binaries, > because they won't last long there for me) of what you did? I'm trying to > visualize the concept. It's a simple operation to save any images that you want keep. In fact, I often save images temporarily in order to zoom into details that are not easily discerned in the original format. > > William > > > Article: 338158 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: polymorph@polyphoto.com Subject: Re: PCB design software Date: 25 Jul 2006 12:08:41 -0700 Message-ID: <1153854521.269437.31630@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153831935.554676.35460@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> > Wrighty wrote: > > Look on ebay for pcbcad17 > > > > http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm He joined a Yahoogroup I run and posted his link. Despite misgivings based on a Google search, I gave him a chance. He misunderstood something I said (I was actually defending him from a snide remark someone else posted) and he went nuts. Posted a dozen messages name-calling me and other list members, posted pictures of his ass in Photos, posted flaming name calling in Links, Polls, and even the Database section. All within less than half an hour. You can guess how he'd respond to a bug report or request for assistance with his software. Article: 338159 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: This newsgroup Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 12:38:02 -0700 Message-ID: <6nscc2ll572jo5p5vq1dod8gvujurm5etn@4ax.com> References: <1153441713.369639.276140@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44c181f5_3@x-privat.org> On 22 Jul 2006 03:40:05 +0200, Lee Babcock wrote: >That NG has been under attack for a few weeks now by trolls trying to >destroy the NG> >They are very good at stealing identities and posting in real users name. That hasn't happened in here yet that I've seen. Perhap you're not facile enough on Usenet matters to know the difference? Article: 338160 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: FA:13 tube Airline (not mine) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 16:01:54 -0400 Message-ID: <12ccu5t5duhjn40@corp.supernews.com> References: <16827-44C5B05F-1053@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:vtoxg.1098613$xm3.156524@attbi_s21... > .. wrong > knobs on it NONE of the 02CA Crosley's have knobs. I'm not sure any originals exist. John H. Article: 338161 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: sparton bluebird Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:39:55 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <16827-44C5B32D-1055@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> In <16827-44C5B32D-1055@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) writes: >Tim thats not a bad description . I like the blue mirror radio myself >but its on my last to like list because its a round mirror basically . I'm more or less of the same mind. Bluebird's don't do a whole lot for me, although I love deco, moderne, etc. OTOH, I just *luv* the Nocturne. Go figure. >If i ever found one local cheap i would sell it . I'd probably trade for a 558. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 338162 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: sparton bluebird Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:41:11 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1153796661.621347.246450@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <16827-44C5B384-1056@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> <1153810914.596296.5580@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In <1153810914.596296.5580@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Steven" writes: >Ken G. wrote: >> No matter what you do, it will be blown sky-high silly after you die. >> >> The water in my boat picture started moving just a minute ago . >Hey, do you have a chassis? All of my radios have a chassis. That's what makes 'em radios! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 338163 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: sparton bluebird Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:58:47 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1153764589.515365.215900@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <29038-44C56040-56@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> In "Syl" writes: >"Tim Mullen" wrote in message >news:ea3pml$iqe$1@reader2.panix.com... >> >> I've heard it was supposed to be an abstract representation of a >> biplane (triplane?) in the sky. The blue mirror is the sky, the >> feet sorta correspond to the landing gear, and, uh... Well, I did >> say "abstract". >Interesting. First time I hear about this and indeed it sure looks like >the Red Baron in the sky, the dial chromed ring being the propeller >and the feet the wheels for the landing gear. I'm not even sure where I heard this. I *think* it was Charlotte >from Waves, but I'm not even sure of that. So, I could very well be spreading rumors. Grain of salt, and all that. However, it does seem plausible. Certainly there was a fascination with air travel at the time, and it was all the rage to have utilitarian objects reflect the new world order of rapid technological progress. One of the things I like about the era, in fact. >Interesting design >considering Von Richtofen was buried in 1918 and this radio >designed in the 30ies. Yeah, I've thought about that, too. Monoplanes ruled the sky by then. Nostalgia for the early days of flight? That's kind of grasping at straws, I'll admit. >I wonder what the Nocturne represents... Bomber? :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 338164 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Here's an unusual one for Mr.Tayman. Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 21:02:35 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In "Gary Tayman" writes: >That is indeed a weird looking contraption! Hah! The Predicta of tractor radios? >"Tom Adkins" wrote in message >news:GO6dneX7za-tFVjZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> I thought of Gary Tayman when I saw this radio. Not exactly a car radio, >> but close. It's made to mount on a tractor. I'd like to have it just for >> the novelty. Ebay item #150015068599 -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 338165 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 17:07:41 -0400 From: Stewart Schooley Subject: Re: Found- New PhotofinishTtrick References: Message-ID: William R. Walsh wrote: > Hi! > > >>It is thinner than ordinary printer paper and much, much thinner than >>color laser prints. > > > If you have a color laser printer, this might lend an interesting variety to > the prints and extend the capabilities of what you can do. > > Do you have some pictures (preferably on a place other than the binaries, > because they won't last long there for me) of what you did? I'm trying to > visualize the concept. > > William > > William, I could scan the tests I did and e-mail them to you, but nothing can take the place of putting tape on a magazine photo and then removing the paper to fully see and understand the process. Try the iron as Tom suggested. I'll try it too the next time I work with this. Stewart Article: 338166 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 17:31:53 -0400 From: Stewart Schooley Subject: Re: Found- New PhotofinishTtrick References: <7slcc2lv8qns44i2c8vpdq5t5mlh68iuct@4ax.com> Message-ID: Mike wrote: > On Tue, 25 Jul 2006 10:43:09 -0400, Stewart Schooley > wrote: > > >>Every once in a while I fish around in Google Groups to see what other >>groups are doing that might be useful to this group. Found a really neat >>idea on rec.models.scale, a group that does lots of decal work. >> >>If you put ordinary clear packing tape on a laser print, rub it on good, >>and then soak it in water for 5 minutes or so, you can rub off the paper >>and the ink will be trapped on the tape. >> >>It will look transparent so it needs a super thin coating of white over >>the ink. I used watered down cheap acrylic paint and brushed on a really >>thin coat. >> >>Used a thin coat of Minwax's Polycrylic to glue it on an acrylic painted >>board and shot spray can Deft on it. It didn't look quite right, but I >>thought, I've had my fingers all over this tape and rubbing hard doing >>it. I did another one and this time I washed off the tape with a little >>Dawn dish liquid before lacquering. It looked good and after sitting in >>direct sunlight for over an hour it still looked good. >> >>It is thinner than ordinary printer paper and much, much thinner than >>color laser prints. Googled and found that my tape is 2 mil thick. Found >>that EZ Start brand Standard Mailing Tape is 1.6 mil thick so I will >>look for it >> >>My big interest in this is duplicating those Zebrawood strips some >>radios have and I will pursue it as time permits. >> >>It is so simple for you to try this. Put a strip of tape over any >>magazine photo, soak it in water and then rub off the paper. >> >>Stewart > > > > You may want to take a look at the waterslide decal paper these people > have. > They have it for inkjet and for laser/copier. > http://www.lazertran.com/ > > Mike > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Sir Julian Huxley - Humanist, atheist and science popularizer, Professor > of Zoology, President of UNESCO 25 yrs ago in a radio interview > "I suppose that the reason that we lept at the origin (of the species) > was because the idea of God interfered with our sexual mores." Mike, I looked at the Lazertran site a long time ago and found some problems with it; 1- It only works with older copiers and these are getting harder to find. 2- These older copiers "that use silicon release oil" introduces silicon into your restoration and there could be some problems. 3 - Finding a place that will run any decal paper through their copiers is difficult. I have been turned down by three different places. The guy at Staples told me that he would only run it if I gauranteed I would pay for cleaning his machine if the paper caused problems. No deal. 4 - Finally, the cost. Lazertran wants $35 for a ten sheet package of 11 x 17 paper. Staples charges 39 cents for an 8 and 1/2 x 11 sheet and $2 for a 11 x 17 sheet Stewart Article: 338167 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: Subject: Re: Philco 41-605 Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:01:02 -0400 Message-ID: I have the decal sheets for Philco and Zenith here, too. $6 ea post paid to anyone here. Another item to add to my website.... Gary, I know that knob for the TT you need, but dont think I have it... however, some others I have might fit. Mark Oppat "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:SJtxg.9983$6G3.7477@trnddc05... > Oh, the things I get roped into . . . > > I received a phone call from a furniture refinisher nearby. Somebody > brought him a console radio that's a family heirloom. Actually it's a > beautiful cabinet; one I wouldn't mind having myself. He wants the radio > totally restored. > > So, after taking a look, I brought home the chassis, speaker, and turntable. > Yes, it looks like I'll be delving into a "home" radio! The chassis > actually doesn't look bad -- very simple; a recap, new dial string, bada > bing! The turntable -- well, if anyone wants to chime in, I'm welcome for > suggestions. I know Syl can rebuild the cartridge, but who does rubber > idlers. I know Bill Turner used to, but didn't he just hand it to someone > else? Also, the dial cover is torn, so whoever is doing these, please speak > up. The platter also needs flocking -- and Mark, do you have a pushbutton > that says "12"? > > Before the refinisher begins stripping, he wants to ensure he can get > decals. I've got a partially-used decal sheet, with only the smaller > "PHILCO" on it -- I can be safe in assuming one of the larger ones is > correct. On the radio, I can read what appears to be "B'DC'ST" and "SW" on > the center knob, and possibly "TUNING" on the third. I would assume the > first is either "ON-OFF VOLUME" or just "VOLUME" but if someone can verify > that I'd be grateful. More than likely the decal sheet offered by AES will > have all of this. Also the grill cloth has a diamond pattern. Maybe, the > top left pattern on page 58 of the AES catalog is correct if turned 90 > degrees -- again, can someone verify? > > I can certainly do the chassis. However everything else may need help from > the rest of you. Basically what I want is to check availability and price > before digging into this project, so I'll take all the responses I can get. > Thanks in advance. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > Article: 338168 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <16827-44C5B05F-1053@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> <12ccu5t5duhjn40@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: FA:13 tube Airline (not mine) Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 18:04:18 -0400 Message-ID: <06Cdnc0WgbssCVvZnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@comcast.com> that series of radios is famous for the decayed plastic buttons and knobs. There is the 02CA, CB, CP etc, and 03 series and 22 series. I dont get the number meaning, but the P means Phono. They were big sellers around 1940-42 for Crosley, I see them all the time up here at shows Mark Oppat "Hagstar" wrote in message news:12ccu5t5duhjn40@corp.supernews.com... > > "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message > news:vtoxg.1098613$xm3.156524@attbi_s21... > > .. wrong > > knobs on it > > NONE of the 02CA Crosley's have knobs. I'm not sure any originals exist. > > John H. > > > Article: 338169 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: sparton bluebird Date: 25 Jul 2006 15:34:30 -0700 Message-ID: <1153866870.012141.232890@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1153796661.621347.246450@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Tim Mullen wrote: > In <1153810914.596296.5580@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Steven" writes: > > >Ken G. wrote: > >> No matter what you do, it will be blown sky-high silly after you die. > >> > >> The water in my boat picture started moving just a minute ago . > > >Hey, do you have a chassis? > > All of my radios have a chassis. That's what makes 'em radios! > > -- > Tim Mullen > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. > ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Indeedee-doo. I was looking for the chassis to the cabinet I sold Dave and have second thoughts about (it just sits in his garage anyway). See the thread about the 10S669 the eBayer was stunting with. Article: 338170 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: This newsgroup Date: 25 Jul 2006 15:37:12 -0700 Message-ID: <1153867032.133457.247340@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1153441713.369639.276140@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> DeserTBoB wrote: > On 22 Jul 2006 03:40:05 +0200, Lee Babcock wrote: > > >That NG has been under attack for a few weeks now by trolls trying to > >destroy the NG> > >They are very good at stealing identities and posting in real users name. > > That hasn't happened in here yet that I've seen. Perhap you're not > facile enough on Usenet matters to know the difference? Screw yourself, Bob-o. Terrell and myself have been spoofed more than once, and that wouldn't be the end of it. Article: 338171 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Searching for a chassis for this cabinet... Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 01:39:08 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1153666519.566306.75560@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <25900-44C394EB-936@storefull-3111.bay.webtv.net> <1153715278.735075.149000@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153730984.734353.59750@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153763219.227628.279360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153798247.249871.28400@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1153799455.991360.140830@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1153831562.854585.148970@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In "Gary Tayman" writes: >Maybe I should ask it this way: if you had room to display only one console >radio, what would it be? The best one. :) Seriously, I'm partial to the '38 Zeniths for one and only one reason -- I like the sort of triangular Robot Dial. I think everybody here collects for some combination of performance and aesthetics. For me the aesthetics definitely comes first. The square dial just doesn't do much for me, but some folks might feel the other way around. Performance-wise, well... I'm not the one to judge. If it picks up an SSTRAN, that works for me. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 338172 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1153666519.566306.75560@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <25900-44C394EB-936@storefull-3111.bay.webtv.net> <1153715278.735075.149000@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153730984.734353.59750@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153763219.227628.279360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153798247.249871.28400@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1153799455.991360.140830@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1153831562.854585.148970@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Searching for a chassis for this cabinet... Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 20:45:20 -0500 Message-ID: <44c6bbe6$0$3519$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:bwzxg.5337$fL3.4091@trnddc07... > How is it performance-wise? Does it compare to other good consoles? Is > it cheap? Is it undesirable because of performance problems, or because > there happens to be a lot of them and they're not so rare? There are a LOT of them. Performance wise they're fine. 10 tube sets have PP 6V6 audio and a big speaker and sound very good. They have a built in box antenna so if you just want to listen to AM BC you won't have to run a wire. > Supposin' I got one of these, rebuilt the chassis (yes I have wire), had > the cabinet redone, and placed it in my living room. If a visitor dropped > by, would he take one look at this radio and say, "Yuck! Why are you > displaying such a crappy set?" Not very likely, unless your cabinet guy isn't very good at dealing with photofinish. These have acres of it. > Maybe I should ask it this way: if you had room to display only one > console radio, what would it be? The nicest one I own, of course. :) Gary, the problem with 1942 Zeniths is a combination of photofinish, rubber wire, unattractive pushbuttons, high power transformer failure rate, and ubiquity. And a boring dial that doesn't light up very well. Since most collectors have limited console space a set like this will tend to get pushed out in favor of others that don't present as many problems. JM2c -p. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 338173 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: Subject: Re: Found- New PhotofinishTtrick Message-ID: <1Zzxg.856489$084.134522@attbi_s22> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 01:56:13 GMT Hi! > It's a simple operation to save any images that you want keep. In fact, > I often save images temporarily in order to zoom into details that are > not easily discerned in the original format. That's not quite the problem I have. The retention on the radio pictures/binaries group is extremely short from my point of view. By the time I get there for the first time, what I wanted to see may already be gone. A while back the same thing happened and it annoyed me. Someone here posted a bunch of nice radio related [clip]art and I was going to take a copy. Silly me, I forgot to take my newsreader offline...and there went the message! William Article: 338174 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lee Babcock Subject: Re: This newsgroup References: <1153441713.369639.276140@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44c181f5_3@x-privat.org> <6nscc2ll572jo5p5vq1dod8gvujurm5etn@4ax.com> Message-ID: <44c6d11f_3@x-privat.org> Date: 26 Jul 2006 04:19:12 +0200 DeserTBoB wrote: > On 22 Jul 2006 03:40:05 +0200, Lee Babcock wrote: > >> That NG has been under attack for a few weeks now by trolls trying to >> destroy the NG> >> They are very good at stealing identities and posting in real users name. > > That hasn't happened in here yet that I've seen. Perhap you're not > facile enough on Usenet matters to know the difference? Why don't you read the messages before you answer? The OP was referring to another NG! And, I've been on USENET since it began! Regards Lee Article: 338175 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Searching for a chassis for this cabinet... From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1153666519.566306.75560@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <25900-44C394EB-936@storefull-3111.bay.webtv.net> <1153715278.735075.149000@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153730984.734353.59750@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153763219.227628.279360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153798247.249871.28400@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1153799455.991360.140830@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1153831562.854585.148970@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44c6bbe6$0$3519$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 02:26:34 GMT In article <44c6bbe6$0$3519$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>, pdieten@NyOaShPoAoM.com says... > > >Gary, Since most >collectors have limited console space a set like this will tend to get >pushed out in favor of others that don't present as many problems. > >JM2c Which is exactly why the 42 radios don't bring big bucks. The 8,10,12 toobers are excellent performers and if you don't mind the looks of them.. they do provide a cheap old working console.... do me a favor if you get one... deep 6 the 6x5 tubes in favor of diodes... and stick a large power resistor in the linecord to drop the juice to about 105 volts... I don't want to hear you whining about looking for a power transformer.. John k9uwa ps: .. try to get one with decent faux on it.. the rest of the cabinet will most likely look pretty good also.. Article: 338176 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Searching for a chassis for this cabinet... Date: 25 Jul 2006 20:21:04 -0700 Message-ID: <1153884064.284519.260090@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1153666519.566306.75560@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > In article <44c6bbe6$0$3519$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>, > pdieten@NyOaShPoAoM.com says... > > > > > >Gary, Since most > >collectors have limited console space a set like this will tend to get > >pushed out in favor of others that don't present as many problems. > > > >JM2c > > Which is exactly why the 42 radios don't bring big bucks. The 8,10,12 toobers > are excellent performers and if you don't mind the looks of them.. > they do provide a cheap old working console.... do me a favor if you > get one... deep 6 the 6x5 tubes in favor of diodes... and stick a > large power resistor in the linecord to drop the juice to about 105 > volts... I don't want to hear you whining about looking for a power > transformer.. > > John k9uwa > ps: .. try to get one with decent faux on it.. the rest of the cabinet > will most likely look pretty good also.. Well, I'll keep an eye on eBay, to be certain, but the point was that I'd rather buy one from a group member, it doesn't need to be perfect or running (just fixable) and I'd rather use the cabinet for what it was meant for than have Dave make it into some kind of stereo video/lighted panel thing. PS Lycos finally decided to upgrade my account to the new mail service, so that is down for a few hours (and that what Yahoo! said too). If you want to reply right at this moment you should use thisjukeboxplays33rpm@yahoo.com perhaps. Yes the cabinet looks as fine as I could expect, not much work to do in my eyes, but 43 of you could tell me different ;-) Article: 338177 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: This newsgroup Date: 25 Jul 2006 20:22:34 -0700 Message-ID: <1153884154.616277.90850@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153441713.369639.276140@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Lee Babcock wrote: > DeserTBoB wrote: > > On 22 Jul 2006 03:40:05 +0200, Lee Babcock wrote: > > > >> That NG has been under attack for a few weeks now by trolls trying to > >> destroy the NG> > >> They are very good at stealing identities and posting in real users name. > > > > That hasn't happened in here yet that I've seen. Perhap you're not > > facile enough on Usenet matters to know the difference? > > Why don't you read the messages before you answer? The OP was referring > to another NG! > And, I've been on USENET since it began! > > Regards > Lee You must have fungus in your talons by now... Article: 338178 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: This newsgroup Date: 25 Jul 2006 20:26:31 -0700 Message-ID: <1153884391.756315.323000@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1153441713.369639.276140@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> 1980 or so is still newer than 99% of my receivers... Hey, mellow. If you've been around this long surely you've solved interpersonal relations difficulties by now? I realize being a Canadian is a tough job too. Article: 338179 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: sparton bluebird Date: Tue, 25 Jul 2006 21:26:47 -0600 Message-ID: <22624-44C6E0F7-314@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: Yes i have a chassis Article: 338180 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: sparton bluebird Date: 25 Jul 2006 20:43:26 -0700 Message-ID: <1153885406.163814.17130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: Ken G. wrote: > Yes i have a chassis How much do you want? Article: 338181 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Philco 41-605 References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 04:20:30 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > I know Syl can rebuild the cartridge, but who does rubber > idlers. I know Bill Turner used to, but didn't he just hand > it to someone else? That would be me. > Also, the dial cover is torn, so whoever is doing these, > please speak up. I believe that's John Bachman doing those now. Although, I work next to a prototyping shop with a vacuum forming machine. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 338182 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Searching for a chassis for this cabinet... References: <1153666519.566306.75560@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <25900-44C394EB-936@storefull-3111.bay.webtv.net> <1153715278.735075.149000@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153730984.734353.59750@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153763219.227628.279360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153798247.249871.28400@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1153799455.991360.140830@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1153831562.854585.148970@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 04:23:39 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > Maybe I should ask it this way: if you had room to display only > one console radio, what would it be? I'd have to say this one. http://radioatticarchives.com/images/p/Philco_40-215_Warren.jpg It's currently in my living room, un-restored. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 338183 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Searching for a chassis for this cabinet... Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 04:36:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1153666519.566306.75560@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <25900-44C394EB-936@storefull-3111.bay.webtv.net> <1153715278.735075.149000@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153730984.734353.59750@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153763219.227628.279360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153798247.249871.28400@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1153799455.991360.140830@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1153831562.854585.148970@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In Jeffrey D Angus writes: >http://radioatticarchives.com/images/p/Philco_40-215_Warren.jpg Is that one of the Mysery Remote units? (Yes, I know. That typo was too good to correct.) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 338184 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Searching for a chassis for this cabinet... References: <1153666519.566306.75560@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <25900-44C394EB-936@storefull-3111.bay.webtv.net> <1153715278.735075.149000@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153730984.734353.59750@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153763219.227628.279360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153798247.249871.28400@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1153799455.991360.140830@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1153831562.854585.148970@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 04:47:17 GMT Well, yeah, it does have it's certain "Misery index" That's one of the models that Philco made with the magic disappearing push buttons that self-destruct and look like 6 week old corn bread. Jeff Tim Mullen wrote: > In Jeffrey D Angus writes: > > >>http://radioatticarchives.com/images/p/Philco_40-215_Warren.jpg > > > Is that one of the Mysery Remote units? > > (Yes, I know. That typo was too good to correct.) > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 338185 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "woodrails" Subject: FA : 45 RPM ,Elvis and Beatles Themed 1952 Seeburg 100 C ,Juke Box, Rochester,NY Date: 25 Jul 2006 22:33:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Auction ends wedneday afternoon at around 6pm, Real nice working Elvis and Beatles themed 1952 Seeburgh 100 C , 45 RPM Juke Box http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&item=330010574620&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a276/vintagecoinopclassics/1952%20Seeburgh%20100%20C/ Article: 338186 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: more Worbud? Date: 26 Jul 2006 00:51:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1153900284.696299.223540@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <9Tpxg.4508$bP5.3462@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Omer Suleimanagich wrote: > Looks like a, CLOCK/radio! > > > > Omer > > > > "Lee Babcock" wrote in message > news:44c66972_3@x-privat.org... > > William R. Walsh wrote: > >> Hi! > > > >> It's a nice looking set...does the main radio separate from the clock > >> body > >> as your pictures suggest? > >> > >> William > > As a piece of furniture, it is what is called an Art Deco Waterfall design > > Regards > > Lee Nice site. Wish you would at least put up a blind page for those who do not have binaries as our eyes have become Googley. Article: 338187 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Searching for a chassis for this cabinet... Date: 26 Jul 2006 01:21:06 -0700 Message-ID: <1153902066.369537.174630@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1153666519.566306.75560@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Well, yeah, it does have it's certain "Misery index" That's one of > the models that Philco made with the magic disappearing push buttons > that self-destruct and look like 6 week old corn bread. > > Jeff They said "Don't touch that dial!" and of course--you can't. Article: 338188 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: FA : 45 RPM ,Elvis and Beatles Themed 1952 Seeburg 100 C ,Juke Box, Rochester,NY Date: 26 Jul 2006 01:24:15 -0700 Message-ID: <1153902255.412286.97550@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> woodrails wrote: > Auction ends wedneday afternoon at around 6pm, Real nice working Elvis > and Beatles themed 1952 Seeburgh 100 C , 45 RPM Juke Box > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&item=330010574620&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 > > http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a276/vintagecoinopclassics/1952%20Seeburgh%20100%20C/ Wicked Cool, Pops! Make a million on it. Article: 338189 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 45 RPM ,Elvis and Beatles Themed 1952 Seeburg 100 C ,Juke Box, Rochester,NY Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 09:13:21 GMT Uh, excuse me, did you say 1952? With Elvis and the Beatles? I'm not sure when the Seeburg 100 first came out; I know they were in use in the mid 1950's -- However Elvis didn't have any hits until 1956, and the Beatles were unknown in this country until 1964. What's inside this jukebox -- a crystal ball? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "woodrails" wrote in message news:1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Auction ends wedneday afternoon at around 6pm, Real nice working Elvis > and Beatles themed 1952 Seeburgh 100 C , 45 RPM Juke Box > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&item=330010574620&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 > > http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a276/vintagecoinopclassics/1952%20Seeburgh%20100%20C/ > Article: 338190 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 45 RPM ,Elvis and Beatles Themed 1952 Seeburg 100 C ,Juke Box, Rochester,NY Date: 26 Jul 2006 03:21:49 -0700 Message-ID: <1153909309.813596.85470@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Gary Tayman wrote: > Uh, excuse me, did you say 1952? > > With Elvis and the Beatles? > > I'm not sure when the Seeburg 100 first came out; I know they were in use in > the mid 1950's -- > > However Elvis didn't have any hits until 1956, and the Beatles were unknown > in this country until 1964. What's inside this jukebox -- a crystal ball? > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > "woodrails" wrote in message > news:1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > Auction ends wedneday afternoon at around 6pm, Real nice working Elvis > > and Beatles themed 1952 Seeburgh 100 C , 45 RPM Juke Box > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&item=330010574620&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 > > > > http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a276/vintagecoinopclassics/1952%20Seeburgh%20100%20C/ > > Whoa, Gary, take a twin spin of this...stereo 45s would be rare if not non-existant until the early-mid 60s, so it would have played all of those cats in it's days of eating quarters dimes and nickles. We DID have an early stereo Seeburg at the Nyssa A&W Drive-In for years (alas, it's long gone), but this model would've seen a long happy life anyway. It gets a B- for accuracy but A+ and extra credit for looks. Class dismissed, and don't forget your yearbook fees...don't want to miss that glorious class of '57. Article: 338191 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: sparton bluebird Date: 26 Jul 2006 04:26:57 -0700 Message-ID: <1153913217.511322.21450@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153764589.515365.215900@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Tim Mullen wrote: > Yeah, I've thought about that, too. Monoplanes ruled the sky by > then. Nostalgia for the early days of flight? That's kind of grasping > at straws, I'll admit. Not so much as you might think. Barnstormers were the 'rage' operating unfettered through the late 20s and almost up to the depression. Old biplanes could be had for a couple of hundred dollars (really), some of these "pilots" would scratch their livings flying around giving rides and doing a few tricks... often (sadly) fatal as the maintenance of these craft would be spotty at best. In the 30s, during the depression, the roots of the FAA stepped in and attempted to make rules for the activity, but it continued here and there right up until WW-II, even a bit thereafter. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 338192 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "dave@hurtle.com" Subject: Re: Searching for a chassis for this cabinet... Date: 26 Jul 2006 04:40:22 -0700 Message-ID: <1153914022.831012.82190@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1153666519.566306.75560@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Gary Tayman wrote: > > Maybe I should ask it this way: if you had room to display only one console > radio, what would it be? > Perhaps the question should be: If you had room to display only only one console radio, which can be obtained in decent condition for under $100, what would it be? There are many radios that fit that description but I find most of them boring but now that the pricey Zs are taken out of the equation, the fact that these are black dial Zeniths starts working for them again. I have a 10S669 and it is my only console. I wasn't aware they had weak transformers and the rectifier is a 5Y4G so no 6X5 failures. I will admit there are nicer Zeniths out there but I'm not going to shell out $500 and do another restoration to upgrade. If I had to pick another low dollar console I'd go for a RCA 19K with the racetrack dial. Article: 338193 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:19:54 -0500 Subject: Re: 45 RPM ,Elvis and Beatles Themed 1952 Seeburg 100 C ,Juke From: John Stone Message-ID: References: <1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 7/26/06 4:13 AM, in article RmGxg.15439$2u4.1143@trnddc06, "Gary Tayman" wrote: > Uh, excuse me, did you say 1952? > > With Elvis and the Beatles? > > I'm not sure when the Seeburg 100 first came out; I know they were in use in > the mid 1950's -- > > However Elvis didn't have any hits until 1956, and the Beatles were unknown > in this country until 1964. What's inside this jukebox -- a crystal ball? The first Seeburg 100 came out in 1949 as a 78 player and was quickly discontinued the next year to be replaced by the 100B, which was the first 45rpm jukebox. With this one move, Seeburg single handedly cemented the 7" 45 record as the medium of choice for jukeboxes for the next 30 years. Had they not done this, it is questionable whether 45's would have survived as a format. The 100 C came out in 1952 and was basically a cosmetic makeover of the B. A very pretty machine with animated lit up pilasters. The one being offered is missing the plastic pilasters which have been replaced by ones from the 100G which were metal. Contrary to what the seller claims, I don't believe the C was ever offered from the factory with metal pilasters. Many of the original "C"plastic pilasters were replaced with metal ones from the G in the field, because the plastic ones were so easily broken, and the animation mechanicals were prone to failure. Other than that, the color of his machine is not anywhere near correct, the mech cover is cracked, and the cartridge is an incorrect pickering stereo, kludged to fit the mono tonearm. The jukebox crowd does seem to take a lot of liberties with parts and cosmetics, but a nicely veneered 100C, instead of a gaudily painted one like this example, is a far nicer looking machine, IMO. This one isn't very impressive. Article: 338194 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" References: Subject: Re: Philco 41-605 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 08:21:47 -0400 West-Tech Services does idlers, as well as cartridges, stylii, and possibly other phono related items. Excellent service. http://www.west-techservices.com/index.htm Dave "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:SJtxg.9983$6G3.7477@trnddc05... > Oh, the things I get roped into . . . > > I received a phone call from a furniture refinisher nearby. Somebody > brought him a console radio that's a family heirloom. Actually it's a > beautiful cabinet; one I wouldn't mind having myself. He wants the radio > totally restored. > > So, after taking a look, I brought home the chassis, speaker, and turntable. > Yes, it looks like I'll be delving into a "home" radio! The chassis > actually doesn't look bad -- very simple; a recap, new dial string, bada > bing! The turntable -- well, if anyone wants to chime in, I'm welcome for > suggestions. I know Syl can rebuild the cartridge, but who does rubber > idlers. I know Bill Turner used to, but didn't he just hand it to someone > else? Also, the dial cover is torn, so whoever is doing these, please speak > up. The platter also needs flocking -- and Mark, do you have a pushbutton > that says "12"? > > Before the refinisher begins stripping, he wants to ensure he can get > decals. I've got a partially-used decal sheet, with only the smaller > "PHILCO" on it -- I can be safe in assuming one of the larger ones is > correct. On the radio, I can read what appears to be "B'DC'ST" and "SW" on > the center knob, and possibly "TUNING" on the third. I would assume the > first is either "ON-OFF VOLUME" or just "VOLUME" but if someone can verify > that I'd be grateful. More than likely the decal sheet offered by AES will > have all of this. Also the grill cloth has a diamond pattern. Maybe, the > top left pattern on page 58 of the AES catalog is correct if turned 90 > degrees -- again, can someone verify? > > I can certainly do the chassis. However everything else may need help from > the rest of you. Basically what I want is to check availability and price > before digging into this project, so I'll take all the responses I can get. > Thanks in advance. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > Article: 338195 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1153666519.566306.75560@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <25900-44C394EB-936@storefull-3111.bay.webtv.net> <1153715278.735075.149000@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153730984.734353.59750@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153763219.227628.279360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1153798247.249871.28400@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1153799455.991360.140830@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1153831562.854585.148970@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1153914022.831012.82190@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Searching for a chassis for this cabinet... Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 07:55:07 -0500 Message-ID: <44c758fa$0$12578$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> wrote in message news:1153914022.831012.82190@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > I have a 10S669 and it is my only console. I wasn't aware they had > weak transformers and the rectifier is a 5Y4G so no 6X5 failures. Oops, my fault, you're right, 1941 was the last year for the 6X5s in the big consoles. Sometimes as-found sets with the 6X5s have blown PTs but this shouldn't be a problem for 1942 models with the 5Y4. > > If I had to pick another low dollar console I'd go for a RCA 19K with > the racetrack dial. > Did you see the one now on eBay for $40? I had noticed it because it's pretty close to my location. Just one tiny little problem with it. The whole lower right side is blown out (lost a battle with a car.) Lots of gluing and sanding needed to put Humpty Dumpty back together again. -p -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 338196 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "radionutz" References: <9Tpxg.4508$bP5.3462@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <9Psxg.96471$1i1.57431@attbi_s72> Subject: Re: more Worbud? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:33:07 GMT William; Yes the clock is completely separate from the radio chassis except of course for the wires. The clock is a Sessions with a painted number that looks like TF 553. One other thing is that the town on the tube layout is Burlington NJ and not Belingham as I said earlier. THANKS BUNCHES, DON "William R. Walsh" wrote in message news:9Psxg.96471$1i1.57431@attbi_s72... > Hi! > >> Something that I don't understand (so what else is new?) > > I think Phil Nelson put it best on his radio website--a lot of radios were > made, and some were very common. As such, some radios just won't have > anything written about them, whether common or not. > > Maybe the radio is rare enough that few exist and nobody who has had the > good fortune to find one has taken the time to write about it. > > It's a nice looking set...does the main radio separate from the clock body > as your pictures suggest? > > William > > Article: 338197 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 45 RPM ,Elvis and Beatles Themed 1952 Seeburg 100 C ,Juke Box, Rochester,NY Message-ID: <_oKxg.3992$K94.3457@trnddc01> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:48:42 GMT Yikes! That's ugly! -- Mike Schultz "woodrails" wrote in message news:1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Auction ends wedneday afternoon at around 6pm, Real nice working Elvis > and Beatles themed 1952 Seeburgh 100 C , 45 RPM Juke Box > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&item=330010574620&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 > > http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a276/vintagecoinopclassics/1952%20Seeburgh%20100%20C/ > Article: 338198 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1153909309.813596.85470@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 45 RPM ,Elvis and Beatles Themed 1952 Seeburg 100 C ,Juke Box, Rochester,NY Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:18:29 GMT I didn't catch the stereo part -- where's the other speaker? Actually after looking at it again, and reading through it again, it probably is indeed an early 50's model, and this guy made some serious changes to it, such as sticking the Elvis/Beatles photos onto the mirrored backing. Can you say, "Frankenjuke"? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Steven" wrote in message news:1153909309.813596.85470@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > > Gary Tayman wrote: >> Uh, excuse me, did you say 1952? >> >> With Elvis and the Beatles? >> >> I'm not sure when the Seeburg 100 first came out; I know they were in use >> in >> the mid 1950's -- >> >> However Elvis didn't have any hits until 1956, and the Beatles were >> unknown >> in this country until 1964. What's inside this jukebox -- a crystal >> ball? >> >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> >> "woodrails" wrote in message >> news:1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> > Auction ends wedneday afternoon at around 6pm, Real nice working Elvis >> > and Beatles themed 1952 Seeburgh 100 C , 45 RPM Juke Box >> > >> > >> > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&item=330010574620&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 >> > >> > http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a276/vintagecoinopclassics/1952%20Seeburgh%20100%20C/ >> > > > Whoa, Gary, take a twin spin of this...stereo 45s would be rare if not > non-existant until the early-mid 60s, so it would have played all of > those cats in it's days of eating quarters dimes and nickles. We DID > have an early stereo Seeburg at the Nyssa A&W Drive-In for years (alas, > it's long gone), but this model would've seen a long happy life anyway. > It gets a B- for accuracy but A+ and extra credit for looks. > > Class dismissed, and don't forget your yearbook fees...don't want to > miss that glorious class of '57. > Article: 338199 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Philco 41-605 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:25:58 GMT Thanks for the tip. Although I generally prefer to do business with people on this list, in this case I may just wrap up the complete changer and send it off to be rebuilt. About the only thing I've done so far is bring it home, and hit it with an air compressor to blow away years of dust and grime, but that's about it. I noticed a couple of broken parts, looks like some semi-circular pot metal pieces -- so I'm in store for some mechanical fun and frolic if I tinker with it myself, so I'll pass. By the way, I had the radio playing this morning. Just needs a recap and dial string -- and yes, there is indeed some rubber wiring in there, and even though it's in remarkably good shape it's still coming out. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Dave McClellan" wrote in message news:E7Jxg.1$db.0@fe03.lga... > West-Tech Services does idlers, as well as cartridges, stylii, and > possibly > other phono related items. Excellent service. > > http://www.west-techservices.com/index.htm > > Dave > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:SJtxg.9983$6G3.7477@trnddc05... >> Oh, the things I get roped into . . . >> >> I received a phone call from a furniture refinisher nearby. Somebody >> brought him a console radio that's a family heirloom. Actually it's a >> beautiful cabinet; one I wouldn't mind having myself. He wants the radio >> totally restored. >> >> So, after taking a look, I brought home the chassis, speaker, and > turntable. >> Yes, it looks like I'll be delving into a "home" radio! The chassis >> actually doesn't look bad -- very simple; a recap, new dial string, bada >> bing! The turntable -- well, if anyone wants to chime in, I'm welcome >> for >> suggestions. I know Syl can rebuild the cartridge, but who does rubber >> idlers. I know Bill Turner used to, but didn't he just hand it to >> someone >> else? Also, the dial cover is torn, so whoever is doing these, please > speak >> up. The platter also needs flocking -- and Mark, do you have a >> pushbutton >> that says "12"? >> >> Before the refinisher begins stripping, he wants to ensure he can get >> decals. I've got a partially-used decal sheet, with only the smaller >> "PHILCO" on it -- I can be safe in assuming one of the larger ones is >> correct. On the radio, I can read what appears to be "B'DC'ST" and "SW" > on >> the center knob, and possibly "TUNING" on the third. I would assume the >> first is either "ON-OFF VOLUME" or just "VOLUME" but if someone can >> verify >> that I'd be grateful. More than likely the decal sheet offered by AES > will >> have all of this. Also the grill cloth has a diamond pattern. Maybe, >> the >> top left pattern on page 58 of the AES catalog is correct if turned 90 >> degrees -- again, can someone verify? >> >> I can certainly do the chassis. However everything else may need help > from >> the rest of you. Basically what I want is to check availability and >> price >> before digging into this project, so I'll take all the responses I can > get. >> Thanks in advance. >> >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> > > Article: 338200 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Oldradiodan" Subject: Re: Oscillation Stromberg Carlson 1121PL Date: 26 Jul 2006 08:26:54 -0700 Message-ID: <1153927614.337211.73300@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: Oldradiodan wrote: > TerryJ wrote: > > This is a chassis that is being refurbished to put in a 'Frankenradio' that > > I building. > > > > Schematic snippet is from a Stromberg Carlson 1121PL from 1946. > > http://home.comcast.net/~suptjud/PhaseInverterModn.JPG > > The diagram on the right is my attempt to 'simplify' the schematic. A > > complete schematic is here. > > http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/292/M0021292.pdf > > > > The circuit oscillates at around 150kHz without the added 250pF cap from the > > speaker connection to the cathode of the 6SC7. All resistors are within > > 5%and caps have been replaced and tubes substituted. I even subbed 6F6s for > > the original 6V6s. > > The power supply originally was a cap input design with 340v and 230v > > outputs and used big shunt resistors to stabilize the voltage when a wire > > recorder was not connected. I changed it to a choke input to reduce the heat > > in the radio. The change made no difference in the oscillation problem but > > did reduce maximum output since plate voltage dropped to 270V on the 6V6s. > > > > It is completely stable with the added 250pF cap. Even at full volume I see > > no oscillation bursts in the waveform. Without the cap there is a constant > > high frequency signal on G1. The original symptom was distorted audio using > > the original speaker. Before I determined that it was oscillating it melted > > the voice coil destroying the speaker. I subbed a PM speaker in a proper > > enclosure and sound now is remarkably good for a 60 year old radio. I don't > > think SC would sell a design that was inherently unstable... or would they? > > > > It appears that the signal is coupled from triode 2 to 1 via the cathode > > resistor AC drop. The 68K resistor in the grid of triode 1 provides feedback > > to keep the output signals equal...? There is also feedback from the plate > > of the output tube V1 to the plate of inverter tube triode 2 through the > > 1.5meg resistor. > > > > The wire recorder must have had its own amp. The connector appears to have > > only B+ , 6.3V AC and audio. The radio had a 5U4 originally. Since the > > recorder was not available (perhaps never?) I put in a 5V4 when it was > > converted to choke input. The whole chassis is a lot cooler and works great. > > It just bugs me that I had to 'modify' the audio section to make it work. > > > > > > > > -- > > Kind regards, > > Terry Judkins > > http://home.comcast.net/~suptjud > > What if one day we all find out that the Hokey Pokey really IS what it's all > > about?! Terry, Have you tried another 6SC7 tube? I had one of these chassis for many years and it was a very good performer. Did you check the resistor values in the amp section? Lead dress might have been disturbed during repairs? Just a few thoughts. Regards, Dan Article: 338201 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: WOW! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:33:30 -0400 This guy must have been a 'real sport'. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250009555784 Article: 338202 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" Subject: FA: not mine Philco 16 code 125 version near Rochester, NY Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 13:09:53 -0400 Message-ID: <3pGdnYutjfezPFrZnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com> If anyone here is going to Rochester AWA swap, you could swing up to Webster, NY and get this Philco 16 tombstone. Its the code 125, which was the last of the 16's, 1935. Its missing all the knobs, I have the 3 lower but the upper two tuning are rare and you have to get them in repro from Old Time Replications, but his look perfect, so dont fret that. The whole set of knobs will run ya about $45 or so. 110013668927 I couldnt get the whole url to copy so I just copied the list #. Mark Oppat begin 666 rtCurve.gif M1TE&.#EA" `(`)$``/___^_O[\[.SO___R'Y! 44``,`+ `````(``@```(1 35( Y8PF[#H)QTG$N>SIH5@``.P`` ` end Article: 338203 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <9Tpxg.4508$bP5.3462@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <9Psxg.96471$1i1.57431@attbi_s72> <44c66972_3@x-privat.org> Subject: Re: more Worbud? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:38:20 GMT Hi! > As a piece of furniture, it is what is called an Art Deco Waterfall > design I was thinking that it might be such an arrangement where the radio would stay with the clock of a night (or whenever) and then come out during the day so that one might listen to it elsewhere... At the very least, that sounds like a convenient (and money saving) idea. William Article: 338204 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: Subject: Re: WOW! Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 11:17:08 -0700 Message-ID: I bought a baseball a few months ago. The one in this auction was in unusually nice condition. All others that I've seen have amber staining that's pretty impossible to remedy. Look at the cover of the "Machine Age to Jet Age" book, vol. II, to see what I mean. You can view my crummy one at http://antiqueradio.org/trophybaseball.htm . On page 282 of the Slusser collector guide, 6th edition, you can see a photo of another one. It looks like somebody tried to clean that one, as I did mine, which tends to take off the printing on the paper cover along with the staining. There's a good reason why very few radios have cardboard cases ! As for the price . . . this also has "crossover" appeal to people interested in the non-radio aspect. I suppose this is true for many novelty radios. Someone who has a trophy room full of baseball memorabilia might bid high on a baseball radio, not caring whether it works or whether it even has a radio inside. Regards, Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html P.S. The Stein book describes this radio as "Bakelite," which is nuts. The case is cardboard with a color-printed paper cover and the base is plastic with a brass trim piece. Article: 338205 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: WOW! References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 14:52:18 -0400 Is there a vent at the top? Ken Phil Nelson wrote: > I bought a baseball a few months ago. The one in this auction was in > unusually nice condition. All others that I've seen have amber staining > that's pretty impossible to remedy. Look at the cover of the "Machine Age to > Jet Age" book, vol. II, to see what I mean. > > You can view my crummy one at http://antiqueradio.org/trophybaseball.htm . > On page 282 of the Slusser collector guide, 6th edition, you can see a photo > of another one. It looks like somebody tried to clean that one, as I did > mine, which tends to take off the printing on the paper cover along with the > staining. > > There's a good reason why very few radios have cardboard cases ! > > As for the price . . . this also has "crossover" appeal to people interested > in the non-radio aspect. I suppose this is true for many novelty radios. > Someone who has a trophy room full of baseball memorabilia might bid high on > a baseball radio, not caring whether it works or whether it even has a radio > inside. > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > P.S. The Stein book describes this radio as "Bakelite," which is nuts. The > case is cardboard with a color-printed paper cover and the base is plastic > with a brass trim piece. > > Article: 338206 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: WOW! Message-ID: <6MQxg.17958$9w.338432@weber.videotron.net> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:03:25 -0400 "Ken" wrote in message news:zPMxg.3140$5H.1507@dukeread06... > This guy must have been a 'real sport'. > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250009555784 Wow allright ! Syl Article: 338207 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: sparton bluebird Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:11:40 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1153764589.515365.215900@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <29038-44C56040-56@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> <1153913217.511322.21450@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> In <1153913217.511322.21450@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" writes: >Tim Mullen wrote: >> Yeah, I've thought about that, too. Monoplanes ruled the sky by >> then. Nostalgia for the early days of flight? That's kind of grasping >> at straws, I'll admit. >Not so much as you might think. Barnstormers were the 'rage' operating >unfettered through the late 20s and almost up to the depression. Old >biplanes could be had for a couple of hundred dollars (really), some of >these "pilots" would scratch their livings flying around giving rides >and doing a few tricks... often (sadly) fatal as the maintenance of >these craft would be spotty at best. In the 30s, during the depression, >the roots of the FAA stepped in and attempted to make rules for the >activity, but it continued here and there right up until WW-II, even a >bit thereafter. Good point. Just last night I caught a special on the history of aviation on PBS. They mentioned a lot of WWI pilots wound up as barnstormers after the war because they were unable to find any other jobs. Presumably any other jobs that would let them fly and pay as well. :) Certainly it was a dangerous occupation! A little off the original subject, I read years ago about a modern pilot, with a reasonable amount of experience flying vintage aircraft, taking one of the WWI fighters for a spin at the Rhinebeck Aerodrome. He wrote that it took all he had just to keep the bloody thing in the air, and couldn't imagine how the gentlemen of old managed to dog fight in the things. That led me to think: How in the world did anyone operate a radio? Even with a second person, the vibration and noise must've been intense. It's a wonder, with the primitive sets of the time, that anybody could get a message through. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 338208 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 45 RPM ,Elvis and Beatles Themed 1952 Seeburg 100 C ,Juke Box, Rochester,NY Date: 26 Jul 2006 14:26:02 -0700 Message-ID: <1153949162.351893.117580@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Gary Tayman wrote: > I didn't catch the stereo part -- where's the other speaker? > > Actually after looking at it again, and reading through it again, it > probably is indeed an early 50's model, and this guy made some serious > changes to it, such as sticking the Elvis/Beatles photos onto the mirrored > backing. > > Can you say, "Frankenjuke"? Not HIS, I mentioned a different box in Nyssa, Oregon and the stereo record weren't available for any body until maybe the mid sixties likely, and the this guy's jukebox will play then in mono anyway. None of these these will mean a lot to 1/2 the people looking anyway. Article: 338209 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 45 RPM ,Elvis and Beatles Themed 1952 Seeburg 100 C ,Juke Box, Rochester,NY Date: 26 Jul 2006 14:29:27 -0700 Message-ID: <1153949367.427690.121970@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> John Stone wrote: > On 7/26/06 4:13 AM, in article RmGxg.15439$2u4.1143@trnddc06, "Gary Tayman" > wrote: > > > Uh, excuse me, did you say 1952? > > > > With Elvis and the Beatles? > > > > I'm not sure when the Seeburg 100 first came out; I know they were in use in > > the mid 1950's -- > > > > However Elvis didn't have any hits until 1956, and the Beatles were unknown > > in this country until 1964. What's inside this jukebox -- a crystal ball? > > > The first Seeburg 100 came out in 1949 as a 78 player and was quickly > discontinued the next year to be replaced by the 100B, which was the first > 45rpm jukebox. With this one move, Seeburg single handedly cemented the 7" > 45 record as the medium of choice for jukeboxes for the next 30 years. Had > they not done this, it is questionable whether 45's would have survived as a > format. > > > The 100 C came out in 1952 and was basically a cosmetic makeover of the B. A > very pretty machine with animated lit up pilasters. The one being offered is > missing the plastic pilasters which have been replaced by ones from the 100G > which were metal. Contrary to what the seller claims, I don't believe the C > was ever offered from the factory with metal pilasters. Many of the original > "C"plastic pilasters were replaced with metal ones from the G in the field, > because the plastic ones were so easily broken, and the animation > mechanicals were prone to failure. Other than that, the color of his > machine is not anywhere near correct, the mech cover is cracked, and the > cartridge is an incorrect pickering stereo, kludged to fit the mono tonearm. > The jukebox crowd does seem to take a lot of liberties with parts and > cosmetics, but a nicely veneered 100C, instead of a gaudily painted one like > this example, is a far nicer looking machine, IMO. This one isn't very > impressive. Okay, kludge city. Now depends if you want a jukebox or a hotrod. Article: 338210 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Searching for a chassis for this cabinet... Date: 26 Jul 2006 14:44:04 -0700 Message-ID: <1153950244.204280.303910@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1153666519.566306.75560@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> dave@hurtle.com wrote: > Gary Tayman wrote: > > > > Maybe I should ask it this way: if you had room to display only one console > > radio, what would it be? > > > > Perhaps the question should be: If you had room to display only only > one console radio, which can be obtained in decent condition for under > $100, what would it be? > > There are many radios that fit that description but I find most of them > boring but now that the pricey Zs are taken out of the equation, the > fact that these are black dial Zeniths starts working for them again. > > I have a 10S669 and it is my only console. I wasn't aware they had > weak transformers and the rectifier is a 5Y4G so no 6X5 failures. > > I will admit there are nicer Zeniths out there but I'm not going to > shell out $500 and do another restoration to upgrade. > > If I had to pick another low dollar console I'd go for a RCA 19K with > the racetrack dial. And I think I do have a 5Y4 as well as a few others (I've even got untested 27As IIRC). Article: 338211 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Searching for a chassis for this cabinet... Date: 26 Jul 2006 14:46:28 -0700 Message-ID: <1153950388.310429.197760@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1153666519.566306.75560@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Paul Dietenberger wrote: > wrote in message > news:1153914022.831012.82190@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > I have a 10S669 and it is my only console. I wasn't aware they had > > weak transformers and the rectifier is a 5Y4G so no 6X5 failures. > > Oops, my fault, you're right, 1941 was the last year for the 6X5s in the big > consoles. Sometimes as-found sets with the 6X5s have blown PTs but this > shouldn't be a problem for 1942 models with the 5Y4. > > > > If I had to pick another low dollar console I'd go for a RCA 19K with > > the racetrack dial. > > > Did you see the one now on eBay for $40? I had noticed it because it's > pretty close to my location. Just one tiny little problem with it. The whole > lower right side is blown out (lost a battle with a car.) Lots of gluing and > sanding needed to put Humpty Dumpty back together again. > > -p > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Gentlemen, we have the technology. We can rebuild (it).--The Six Million Dollar Man Article: 338212 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FA: not mine Philco 16 code 125 version near Rochester, NY From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <3pGdnYutjfezPFrZnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com> Message-ID: <%BRxg.477205$Fs1.59835@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:00:27 GMT On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:09:53 GMT, Mark Oppat wrote: > << Attached file: rtCurve.gif (64 bytes) >> Wow! A GIF! For me? Thanks! Article: 338213 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: FA: not mine Philco 16 code 125 version near Rochester, NY Date: 26 Jul 2006 15:13:40 -0700 Message-ID: <1153952020.098686.33800@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <3pGdnYutjfezPFrZnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com> Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian, wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jul 2006 17:09:53 GMT, Mark Oppat wrote: > > > << Attached file: rtCurve.gif (64 bytes) >> > > Wow! A GIF! For me? Thanks! Lucky dawg Google won't drop the bone Article: 338214 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: Subject: Re: WOW! Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 15:16:07 -0700 Message-ID: <9oKdncyvkM02dFrZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@giganews.com> "Ken" <> wrote in message news:HROxg.3145$5H.2305@dukeread06... > Is there a vent at the top? Ken Yes, there's a circular vent at the top, under the metal Trophy badge, and a matching one in the rear near the bottom. The round speaker grille on bottom front makes a third opening, and probably lets a little more air through. Even with vents, a cramped spherical radio runs hot as Hades. The vents are metal circles with metal mesh. I don't know what the metal was plated with, if anything. It doesn't polish up with anything that I have in the house. Same with the Trophy badge on top. I don't know what these things cost in 1939/1940, but you are *not* looking at luxury-class build quality. Most novelty radios are cheap by definition, I guess. Even though the auctioned radio is in comparatively good shape, if you look closely at the photos, you'll see that the two case pieces don't really mate up. Duh. The joint between the halves was originally covered by an overlapping strip of paper from one of the case pieces. Which of course got destroyed the first time some Sad Sack serviceman had to winkle this contraption apart to replace a tube. The thing keeping the cardboard hemispheres vaguely matching in circumference is a circle of rough-sawn wood, glued inside one of the cardboard pieces. The hemispheres each attach to the chassis with a single screw. Good luck finding that screw hole, even with a strong flashlight, when you're trying to get all these poorly-fitting pieces back into place. Oh, and did I mention that you need to leave the mini loop antenna *unattached* until you get the rest of the chassis inside, then straighten it up and secure it with its mounting screw. Cute as it is, not a particularly fun radio to work on. Compared to this, a Colonial Globe with Bakelite case is a Rolls-Royce! Regards, Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 338215 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: sparton bluebird Date: 26 Jul 2006 15:18:03 -0700 Message-ID: <1153952283.300964.3230@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153764589.515365.215900@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Tim Mullen wrote: > In <1153913217.511322.21450@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" writes: > > >Tim Mullen wrote: > > >> Yeah, I've thought about that, too. Monoplanes ruled the sky by > >> then. Nostalgia for the early days of flight? That's kind of grasping > >> at straws, I'll admit. > > >Not so much as you might think. Barnstormers were the 'rage' operating > >unfettered through the late 20s and almost up to the depression. Old > >biplanes could be had for a couple of hundred dollars (really), some of > >these "pilots" would scratch their livings flying around giving rides > >and doing a few tricks... often (sadly) fatal as the maintenance of > >these craft would be spotty at best. In the 30s, during the depression, > >the roots of the FAA stepped in and attempted to make rules for the > >activity, but it continued here and there right up until WW-II, even a > >bit thereafter. > > Good point. Just last night I caught a special on the history of > aviation on PBS. They mentioned a lot of WWI pilots wound up as > barnstormers after the war because they were unable to find any other > jobs. Presumably any other jobs that would let them fly and pay as > well. :) Certainly it was a dangerous occupation! > > A little off the original subject, I read years ago about a modern > pilot, with a reasonable amount of experience flying vintage aircraft, > taking one of the WWI fighters for a spin at the Rhinebeck Aerodrome. > He wrote that it took all he had just to keep the bloody thing in the > air, and couldn't imagine how the gentlemen of old managed to dog fight > in the things. That led me to think: How in the world did anyone > operate a radio? Even with a second person, the vibration and noise > must've been intense. It's a wonder, with the primitive sets of the > time, that anybody could get a message through. Probably Morse. > Tim Mullen > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. > ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- I don't have much of a basement unless that's the door to a cellar in back. I don't think Patches, Pepper or Cinnamon would like you down in there. Article: 338216 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wizzzer@hotmail.com Subject: Should I go get a free Philco console radio? Date: 26 Jul 2006 18:14:35 -0700 Message-ID: <1153962875.020400.111590@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I have a chance to go get one for free. It needs some repair. It's a 1935 model. The cabinet looks fine but it's not as fancy as some others I've seen on the web. It has AM and SW. I never had a shortwave radio before. What can you hear on that? In the past I've learned a little basic electronics and I've put together a few circuits using other people's plans. I know where I can download a lot of vintage electronics repair books. From what the guy says, it sounds like I might only have to replace the power cord and grill cloth. Do you guys think I should jump on this? Article: 338217 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: sparton bluebird Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:08:52 -0600 Message-ID: <1438-44C81224-1537@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: <1153885406.163814.17130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> How much do you want? 15$ From suptjudatcomcastdotnet Sat Jul 29 12:03:27 EDT 2006 Article: 338218 of rec.antiques.radio+phono NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 20:34:07 -0500 From: "TerryJ" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: <1153847630.624372.146400@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1153927614.337211.73300@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Oscillation Stromberg Carlson 1121PL Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:34:08 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Message-ID: Lines: 94 NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.56.6.144 X-Trace: sv3-liGYsnS1ra8yadZvqkivDDG7PBXLJ26NnUeF9Bg8un/RNQOPNE2lSHroUO+5tbc8I3CXdow+FYUk6e/!N5XnMwN/xNk/c27DLEYAZ8YEVc3cOUDBtiGhljxPyvAxGeHAnvp5IpYT3uSr/NSbtnLF//Uv4nM0!2qEvtVXIqA== X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:338218 Yes new 6SC7 no change. I got it to stop oscillating by putting .022uF caps on both 6V6 screens where the plate load resistors for the 6SC7 connect to B+. But since it is a chassis only that I am putting in a 'Frankenradio' cabinet that I am building I went ahead and converted the phase inverter to a 'long tailed pair'. Stable as a rock and distortion is much less. Later SCs made many changes mostly in the decoupling, filtering area. Here is a link to a schematic of the modified audio section. http://home.comcast.net/~suptjud/SC1121PLAudioMod.JPG "Oldradiodan" wrote in message news:1153927614.337211.73300@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > Oldradiodan wrote: >> TerryJ wrote: >> > This is a chassis that is being refurbished to put in a 'Frankenradio' >> > that >> > I building. >> > >> > Schematic snippet is from a Stromberg Carlson 1121PL from 1946. >> > http://home.comcast.net/~suptjud/PhaseInverterModn.JPG >> > The diagram on the right is my attempt to 'simplify' the schematic. A >> > complete schematic is here. >> > http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/292/M0021292.pdf >> > >> > The circuit oscillates at around 150kHz without the added 250pF cap >> > from the >> > speaker connection to the cathode of the 6SC7. All resistors are within >> > 5%and caps have been replaced and tubes substituted. I even subbed 6F6s >> > for >> > the original 6V6s. >> > The power supply originally was a cap input design with 340v and 230v >> > outputs and used big shunt resistors to stabilize the voltage when a >> > wire >> > recorder was not connected. I changed it to a choke input to reduce the >> > heat >> > in the radio. The change made no difference in the oscillation problem >> > but >> > did reduce maximum output since plate voltage dropped to 270V on the >> > 6V6s. >> > >> > It is completely stable with the added 250pF cap. Even at full volume I >> > see >> > no oscillation bursts in the waveform. Without the cap there is a >> > constant >> > high frequency signal on G1. The original symptom was distorted audio >> > using >> > the original speaker. Before I determined that it was oscillating it >> > melted >> > the voice coil destroying the speaker. I subbed a PM speaker in a >> > proper >> > enclosure and sound now is remarkably good for a 60 year old radio. I >> > don't >> > think SC would sell a design that was inherently unstable... or would >> > they? >> > >> > It appears that the signal is coupled from triode 2 to 1 via the >> > cathode >> > resistor AC drop. The 68K resistor in the grid of triode 1 provides >> > feedback >> > to keep the output signals equal...? There is also feedback from the >> > plate >> > of the output tube V1 to the plate of inverter tube triode 2 through >> > the >> > 1.5meg resistor. >> > >> > The wire recorder must have had its own amp. The connector appears to >> > have >> > only B+ , 6.3V AC and audio. The radio had a 5U4 originally. Since the >> > recorder was not available (perhaps never?) I put in a 5V4 when it was >> > converted to choke input. The whole chassis is a lot cooler and works >> > great. >> > It just bugs me that I had to 'modify' the audio section to make it >> > work. >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Kind regards, >> > Terry Judkins >> > http://home.comcast.net/~suptjud >> > What if one day we all find out that the Hokey Pokey really IS what >> > it's all >> > about?! > > Terry, > Have you tried another 6SC7 tube? I had one of these chassis for > many years and it was a very good performer. Did you check the resistor > values in the amp section? Lead dress might have been disturbed during > repairs? Just a few thoughts. > > Regards, > Dan > Article: 338219 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: philco 37-116 siting on TV Date: 26 Jul 2006 19:34:16 -0700 Message-ID: <1153967656.142056.157930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> I was flipping through the channels and came across a biography of the Hershey magnate. Think his name was Milton. First time I saw the console was in vintage B+W footage of him in his study. I flicked around and came back and there it was again! this time it was on display in his home which is apparently on a tourist attraction now. It was TLC or biography. I can't remember which. Cool to see this fine radio in actual use. This man could have afforded anything and he chose the 37-116. I wonder if the radio on display is his actual radio. Article: 338220 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nesesu" Subject: Re: Oscillation Stromberg Carlson 1121PL Date: 26 Jul 2006 19:35:22 -0700 Message-ID: <1153967722.495718.78050@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: Don't feel bad, Terry. I have run across a couple of sets from 'lesser' manufacturers that have clangers in them. If the circuit is poorly engineered, as this one appears to be since they made drastic changes on later models [if I read you correctly], I am not against correcting the circuit. I have a Silvertone-Precision [yes, it is from Sears] where the factory [RME??] made some kluged up mods, but the circuit still did not work properly. I made an 'update' to modern practise and now it works very well. Also, a Minerva "Tropicmaster" needed some work on decoupling points to clear up instability issues. Neil S. TerryJ wrote: > Yes new 6SC7 no change. I got it to stop oscillating by putting .022uF caps > on both 6V6 screens where the plate load resistors for the 6SC7 connect to > B+. But since it is a chassis only that I am putting in a 'Frankenradio' > cabinet that I am building I went ahead and converted the phase inverter to > a 'long tailed pair'. Stable as a rock and distortion is much less. Later > SCs made many changes mostly in the decoupling, filtering area. Here is a > link to a schematic of the modified audio section. > http://home.comcast.net/~suptjud/SC1121PLAudioMod.JPG > > "Oldradiodan" wrote in message > news:1153927614.337211.73300@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > > > Oldradiodan wrote: > >> TerryJ wrote: > >> > This is a chassis that is being refurbished to put in a 'Frankenradio' > >> > that > >> > I building. > >> > > >> > Schematic snippet is from a Stromberg Carlson 1121PL from 1946. > >> > http://home.comcast.net/~suptjud/PhaseInverterModn.JPG > >> > The diagram on the right is my attempt to 'simplify' the schematic. A > >> > complete schematic is here. > >> > http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/292/M0021292.pdf > >> > > >> > The circuit oscillates at around 150kHz without the added 250pF cap > >> > from the > >> > speaker connection to the cathode of the 6SC7. All resistors are within > >> > 5%and caps have been replaced and tubes substituted. I even subbed 6F6s > >> > for > >> > the original 6V6s. > >> > The power supply originally was a cap input design with 340v and 230v > >> > outputs and used big shunt resistors to stabilize the voltage when a > >> > wire > >> > recorder was not connected. I changed it to a choke input to reduce the > >> > heat > >> > in the radio. The change made no difference in the oscillation problem > >> > but > >> > did reduce maximum output since plate voltage dropped to 270V on the > >> > 6V6s. > >> > > >> > It is completely stable with the added 250pF cap. Even at full volume I > >> > see > >> > no oscillation bursts in the waveform. Without the cap there is a > >> > constant > >> > high frequency signal on G1. The original symptom was distorted audio > >> > using > >> > the original speaker. Before I determined that it was oscillating it > >> > melted > >> > the voice coil destroying the speaker. I subbed a PM speaker in a > >> > proper > >> > enclosure and sound now is remarkably good for a 60 year old radio. I > >> > don't > >> > think SC would sell a design that was inherently unstable... or would > >> > they? > >> > > >> > It appears that the signal is coupled from triode 2 to 1 via the > >> > cathode > >> > resistor AC drop. The 68K resistor in the grid of triode 1 provides > >> > feedback > >> > to keep the output signals equal...? There is also feedback from the > >> > plate > >> > of the output tube V1 to the plate of inverter tube triode 2 through > >> > the > >> > 1.5meg resistor. > >> > > >> > The wire recorder must have had its own amp. The connector appears to > >> > have > >> > only B+ , 6.3V AC and audio. The radio had a 5U4 originally. Since the > >> > recorder was not available (perhaps never?) I put in a 5V4 when it was > >> > converted to choke input. The whole chassis is a lot cooler and works > >> > great. > >> > It just bugs me that I had to 'modify' the audio section to make it > >> > work. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Kind regards, > >> > Terry Judkins > >> > http://home.comcast.net/~suptjud > >> > What if one day we all find out that the Hokey Pokey really IS what > >> > it's all > >> > about?! > > > > Terry, > > Have you tried another 6SC7 tube? I had one of these chassis for > > many years and it was a very good performer. Did you check the resistor > > values in the amp section? Lead dress might have been disturbed during > > repairs? Just a few thoughts. > > > > Regards, > > Dan > > Article: 338221 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Engineer" Subject: Re: WTD: owners manual for B&K 1466 o'scope Date: 26 Jul 2006 19:39:46 -0700 Message-ID: <1153967986.918388.38160@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153849629.971435.96040@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> AuroraOldRadios wrote: > $10 at goodwill. Looks like it works and should be adequate for my > modest needs. Not found on bama. I may have a B&K 1470 manual around. If it is similar I could copy a few pages for you. Cheers, Roger Article: 338222 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: sparton bluebird Date: 26 Jul 2006 19:40:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1153968001.907681.296940@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153885406.163814.17130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Ken G. wrote: > How much do you want? > > 15$ Send pix and detailsd, along with shipping costs. Dave says it will work. Article: 338223 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" References: <1153849629.971435.96040@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1153967986.918388.38160@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: WTD: owners manual for B&K 1466 o'scope Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 22:51:43 -0400 Message-ID: <44c82a3c$0$2922$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "Engineer" wrote in message news:1153967986.918388.38160@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > AuroraOldRadios wrote: >> $10 at goodwill. Looks like it works and should be adequate for my >> modest needs. Not found on bama. > > I may have a B&K 1470 manual around. If it is similar I could copy a > few pages for you. > Cheers, > Roger > Could try "the manual man" or W7FG. They sell all sorts of manuals. ALSO, try A. G. TANNENBAUM - in PA. Have ya tried writing to the company? Maybe not as much help anymore - but often can be a good start. Lou Article: 338224 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Should I go get a free Philco console radio? Date: 26 Jul 2006 20:06:34 -0700 Message-ID: <1153969594.097836.39040@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1153962875.020400.111590@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> robert casey wrote: > wizzzer@hotmail.com wrote: > > > I have a chance to go get one for free. It needs some repair. It's a > > 1935 model. ... From what the guy says, it sounds like I > > might only have to replace the power cord and grill cloth. Do you guys > > think I should jump on this? > > > You should replace each and every wax paper cap, and the electrolytic > caps too. Do each one at a time. Do not pass go do not collect 200.00 and do not gawk at the working girls on 42nd St. Do go check it out. Article: 338225 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: WOW! Date: 26 Jul 2006 20:09:50 -0700 Message-ID: <1153969790.057851.191190@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Syl wrote: > "Ken" wrote in message > news:zPMxg.3140$5H.1507@dukeread06... > > This guy must have been a 'real sport'. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=250009555784 > > Wow allright ! > > Syl That guy's got some neat toys Article: 338226 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1153962875.020400.111590@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1zUxg.554$0e5.252@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Should I go get a free Philco console radio? Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 21:14:15 -0700 Message-ID: > You should replace each and every wax paper cap, and the electrolytic caps > too. Do each one at a time. This article has more information about replacing capacitors. http://antiqueradio.org/recap.htm Once you know the model number of this radio (see http://antiqueradio.org/identify.htm ), you can look for a free schematic at Nostalgia Air. Go to this URL: http://www.nostalgiaair.org/ Then click on Resources and look up your model number under the Philco section. If you hit a snag or have more questions, people in this group can advise. Have fun, Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 338227 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: Subject: Re: WOW! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 04:32:51 GMT The guy on Antiques Roadshow said a Trophy Baseball radio was worth $1,000.00 just a few months ago... As far as I know this was the first radio to be featured on the show. Ron -- Radio Collection Web Page, http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com WANTED! http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html Hard to find 2 pin mic connectors for BA rigs. http://radioheaven.homestead.com/2pinmicplug.html Article: 338228 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Is there any antique radio stuff in the Santa Clara/San Jose area? Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:01:40 -0000 Message-ID: References: <1153751111.992395.87500@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Thanks to everyone who replied, both in this group and by email. I printed all the suggestions and will take them along. My son also stored them on his laptop so we also have live links (the motel has free internet access!). There should be more to do than there is time to do it in. The California Historical Society swap meet sounds like a "must see" however. Thanks again, siliconvalleyEE@gmail.com wrote in news:1153751111.992395.87500@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > For surplus stores, junk...check out the link...descriptions are right > on the money... > http://www.bluefeathertech.com/technoid/calswapindex.html > For antique radios: > http://www.californiahistoricalradio.com/ > > Hope this helps... > siliconvalley_ee > ========================================================= > > Jim Mueller wrote: >> Greetings, >> >> I will be traveling to the Santa Clara/San Jose, California area >> soon. Are there any antique radio/electronics things to see or do >> there? I have a tourist guide; I'm looking for the kind of stuff >> that the "locals" know about, things like museums, swap meets, >> electronic surplus or "junk" stores, or anything like that. Places >> as far away as San Francisco or Oakland should be possible to visit. >> I am planning to go to the railroad museum in Sacramento so that is >> also possible. >> >> Thanks, >> >> -- >> Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com >> >> To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then >> replace nospam with sacbeemail. > -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 338229 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: Subject: Re: Philco 41-605 Message-ID: <4ZZxg.5952$157.5085@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:31:12 GMT I don't know Gary but there are some people on the list that do IMPECCABLY GOOD work at a very fair price! Omer "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:WXKxg.11347$yN3.5255@trnddc04... > Thanks for the tip. Although I generally prefer to do business with > people on this list, in this case I may just wrap up the complete changer > and send it off to be rebuilt. About the only thing I've done so far is > bring it home, and hit it with an air compressor to blow away years of > dust and grime, but that's about it. I noticed a couple of broken parts, > looks like some semi-circular pot metal pieces -- so I'm in store for some > mechanical fun and frolic if I tinker with it myself, so I'll pass. > > By the way, I had the radio playing this morning. Just needs a recap and > dial string -- and yes, there is indeed some rubber wiring in there, and > even though it's in remarkably good shape it's still coming out. > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > "Dave McClellan" wrote in message > news:E7Jxg.1$db.0@fe03.lga... >> West-Tech Services does idlers, as well as cartridges, stylii, and >> possibly >> other phono related items. Excellent service. >> >> http://www.west-techservices.com/index.htm >> >> Dave >> >> "Gary Tayman" wrote in message >> news:SJtxg.9983$6G3.7477@trnddc05... >>> Oh, the things I get roped into . . . >>> >>> I received a phone call from a furniture refinisher nearby. Somebody >>> brought him a console radio that's a family heirloom. Actually it's a >>> beautiful cabinet; one I wouldn't mind having myself. He wants the >>> radio >>> totally restored. >>> >>> So, after taking a look, I brought home the chassis, speaker, and >> turntable. >>> Yes, it looks like I'll be delving into a "home" radio! The chassis >>> actually doesn't look bad -- very simple; a recap, new dial string, bada >>> bing! The turntable -- well, if anyone wants to chime in, I'm welcome >>> for >>> suggestions. I know Syl can rebuild the cartridge, but who does rubber >>> idlers. I know Bill Turner used to, but didn't he just hand it to >>> someone >>> else? Also, the dial cover is torn, so whoever is doing these, please >> speak >>> up. The platter also needs flocking -- and Mark, do you have a >>> pushbutton >>> that says "12"? >>> >>> Before the refinisher begins stripping, he wants to ensure he can get >>> decals. I've got a partially-used decal sheet, with only the smaller >>> "PHILCO" on it -- I can be safe in assuming one of the larger ones is >>> correct. On the radio, I can read what appears to be "B'DC'ST" and "SW" >> on >>> the center knob, and possibly "TUNING" on the third. I would assume the >>> first is either "ON-OFF VOLUME" or just "VOLUME" but if someone can >>> verify >>> that I'd be grateful. More than likely the decal sheet offered by AES >> will >>> have all of this. Also the grill cloth has a diamond pattern. Maybe, >>> the >>> top left pattern on page 58 of the AES catalog is correct if turned 90 >>> degrees -- again, can someone verify? >>> >>> I can certainly do the chassis. However everything else may need help >> from >>> the rest of you. Basically what I want is to check availability and >>> price >>> before digging into this project, so I'll take all the responses I can >> get. >>> Thanks in advance. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >>> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >>> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >>> >>> >> >> > > Article: 338230 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: philco 37-116 siting on TV Date: 27 Jul 2006 05:29:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1154003340.462408.221660@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1153967656.142056.157930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Eddie Brimer wrote: > I was flipping through the channels and came across a biography of the > Hershey magnate. Think his name was Milton. First time I saw the > console was in vintage B+W footage of him in his study. I flicked > around and came back and there it was again! this time it was on > display in his home which is apparently on a tourist attraction now. It > was TLC or biography. I can't remember which. Cool to see this fine > radio in actual use. This man could have afforded anything and he chose > the 37-116. I wonder if the radio on display is his actual radio. should be "sighting". forgive me. had knee surgery and i am heavily sedated. Article: 338231 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: sparton bluebird Date: 27 Jul 2006 05:38:34 -0700 Message-ID: <1154003914.125490.273470@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1153764589.515365.215900@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > Probably Morse. VERY early on, yes. Morse. But voice from the late 20s onward. Certainly all WW-II radio-equipped aircraft were voice. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 338232 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Should I go get a free Philco console radio? Date: 27 Jul 2006 05:50:34 -0700 Message-ID: <1154004633.297966.155400@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153962875.020400.111590@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> You'd be a fool not to. The issues of this set sound normal, and definatly needs some TLC, but for the price what have you got to lose? Grill cloth, power cords, and knobs can all be purchased as reproductions, and good ones at that. wizzzer@hotmail.com wrote: > I have a chance to go get one for free. It needs some repair. It's a > 1935 model. The cabinet looks fine but it's not as fancy as some others > I've seen on the web. It has AM and SW. I never had a shortwave radio > before. What can you hear on that? In the past I've learned a little > basic electronics and I've put together a few circuits using other > people's plans. I know where I can download a lot of vintage > electronics repair books. From what the guy says, it sounds like I > might only have to replace the power cord and grill cloth. Do you guys > think I should jump on this? Article: 338233 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FA: not mine Philco 16 code 125 version near Rochester, NY From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <3pGdnYutjfezPFrZnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:15:55 GMT In article <3pGdnYutjfezPFrZnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com>, moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... > > > 110013668927 > > >Mark Oppat > I hope whoever wins this auction knows to remove the screws holding the 4 lightbulbs bwfore shipping ... or hauling it... otherwise a good chance that potmetal bracket will sheer off and be a problem to fix.... two sheet metal screws and remove it for shipping is much better than having to fix it later! John k9uwa Article: 338234 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Cheap Philco 70 Date: 27 Jul 2006 06:22:56 -0700 Message-ID: <1154006576.465349.279840@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Somebody got a good deal on this classic cathedral. http://www.shopgoodwill.com/viewItem.asp?ItemID=2101785 Article: 338235 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: philco 37-116 siting on TV References: <1153967656.142056.157930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154003340.462408.221660@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:30:09 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote: > should be "sighting". forgive me. had knee surgery and i am heavily > sedated. "Martha, what's that on the tele?" "Oooh, it looks like a penguin to me!" Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 338236 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" References: <1153962875.020400.111590@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Should I go get a free Philco console radio? Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 07:17:42 -0700 Message-ID: <44c8cb08$0$34563$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> You're asking THIS group if you should get a radio?! Silly question. ;-) Of course you should! Steve Article: 338237 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: philco 37-116 siting on TV Date: 27 Jul 2006 08:20:37 -0700 Message-ID: <1154013637.198222.30990@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153967656.142056.157930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Eddie Brimer wrote: > should be "sighting". forgive me. had knee surgery and i am heavily > sedated. Oh, I thought you had misspelled "sitting", and I thought, a 37-116 sitting on a TV? Must be a big TV, and it would look weird regardless. Tox Article: 338238 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: philco 37-116 siting on TV Date: 27 Jul 2006 08:55:50 -0700 Message-ID: <1154015750.361129.81450@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153967656.142056.157930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> toxcrusadr wrote: > Eddie Brimer wrote: > > > should be "sighting". forgive me. had knee surgery and i am heavily > > sedated. > > Oh, I thought you had misspelled "sitting", and I thought, a 37-116 > sitting on a TV? Must be a big TV, and it would look weird regardless. > > Tox and people take this stuff for fun???? i could barely function. Article: 338239 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: philco 37-116 siting on TV Date: 27 Jul 2006 09:59:45 -0700 Message-ID: <1154019585.427726.195330@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1153967656.142056.157930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Eddie Brimer wrote: > toxcrusadr wrote: > > Eddie Brimer wrote: > > > > > should be "sighting". forgive me. had knee surgery and i am heavily > > > sedated. > > > > Oh, I thought you had misspelled "sitting", and I thought, a 37-116 > > sitting on a TV? Must be a big TV, and it would look weird regardless. > > > > Tox > > and people take this stuff for fun???? i could barely function. Well, nothing broke or fell off...I guess keep on truckin' Eddie Article: 338240 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: Subject: Re: WOW! Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:15:50 -0700 Message-ID: Well, I paid a lot less than that!! I don't put much stock in book prices, but for the record, Slusser values it at $690-$800 and Stein at $750+, so by those sketchy guesstimates, the winning bid was not unreasonable for a nice one. Regards, Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 338241 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1154006576.465349.279840@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Cheap Philco 70 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 10:21:19 -0700 Message-ID: Sheesh, I guess they get more high-class donations in OR than in WA. In the Goodwills around here, the only tube radio would be a junky plastic clock radio -- on a lucky day. Hope it survives the shipping. That's a heavy cathedral and might bust the cabinet unless you remove the chassis and ship separately. Regards, Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 338242 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <3pGdnYutjfezPFrZnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: FA: not mine Philco 16 code 125 version near Rochester, NY Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:42:00 -0400 Message-ID: Worth a note to the seller, John. I didnt even think of that. I often send helpful notes to sellers. Like the 37-116 console... that chassis is secured only by one tiny screw usually. I dont recall if the set had shipping screws or what, but I can tell you I have seen several of those sets beat to hell by that screw busting off and the chassis flying around in the cabinet! some radios, like AK55,60, 70 series, dont even have any chassis bolts at ALL! AK speakers too, hung from hooks. The radio was just set inside by the dealer in the customer's home. Mark Oppat "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:f03yg.99859$1i1.86025@attbi_s72... > In article <3pGdnYutjfezPFrZnZ2dnUVZ_vydnZ2d@comcast.com>, > moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... > > > > > > 110013668927 > > > > > >Mark Oppat > > > > I hope whoever wins this auction knows to remove the screws holding > the 4 lightbulbs bwfore shipping ... or hauling it... otherwise > a good chance that potmetal bracket will sheer off and be a problem > to fix.... two sheet metal screws and remove it for shipping is much > better than having to fix it later! > > John k9uwa > > Article: 338243 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: WOW! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 14:04:55 -0400 "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:cY-dnZvnpdBQaVXZnZ2dnUVZ_oCdnZ2d@giganews.com... > Well, I paid a lot less than that!! > > I don't put much stock in book prices, but for the record, Slusser values > it at $690-$800 and Stein at $750+, so by those sketchy guesstimates, the > winning bid was not unreasonable for a nice one. > > Stein's values are based on average as-found radios... This one has had the electronincs restored which add somewhat to the merchandability of the item. I would have paid that much if I had the money. Considering this is the first time in 6 years that I see this radio model in such a great condition. Cardboard doesn't age well, you know that...The fact you may have bought yours for a penny, doesn't mean much on somebody else's will to acquire one in this condition. Would you be ready to pay 300-400$ for a plastic phono from the 50ies ? I was and so were a few others too that day. I guess if I was the only one bidding I may have had it for peanuts, but with eBay and reference books out there, it isn't the case anymore. Adn some models don't show that often, even on eBay. And the fact I paid that much for a plastic phono doesn't mean much either on the "real" value...Only what a few crazy nuts were willing to pay that day... And the following ones. Besides, we are still far from the Catalin's craze...Which has no basis whatsoever for commanding such high prices other than one artificially maintained market value by some high profile Catalin dealers. It's all about money... Syl Article: 338244 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Re: sparton bluebird Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 12:10:13 -0600 Message-ID: <17220-44C90185-1937@storefull-3235.bay.webtv.net> References: <1153952283.300964.3230@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Pilots of early aircraft used morse code. They had a key clamped to their leg. Hard to imagine how they did it but I have comunicated with hams using code that were mobile in their cars/motor homes. DON AC7PD Article: 338245 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephanie Weil" Subject: Re: Cheap Philco 70 Date: 27 Jul 2006 11:52:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1154026330.573208.90060@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1154006576.465349.279840@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Phil Nelson wrote: > Sheesh, I guess they get more high-class donations in OR than in WA. In the > Goodwills around here, the only tube radio would be a junky plastic clock > radio -- on a lucky day. Yeah. Seriously. At least you can still find radios in the Goodwills in your area. Our stores don't have anything besides smelly old clothes, broken kids toys and odd junk such as greasy old Radaranges and suspicious looking VCRs and such. Salvation Army doesn't fare any better anymore. I guess the employees that cull through this stuff sort out the valuable so they can sell it on E-bay for themselves. > Hope it survives the shipping. That's a heavy cathedral and might bust the > cabinet unless you remove the chassis and ship separately. Hey, for a Philco 70/90, I'd buy a round trip ticket to Oregon and pick up the radio myself!!!!! It would be worth every penny! -- Stephanie Weil New York City, USA Article: 338246 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: hatespam@hatespam.com (Nomad) Subject: Re: Found- New PhotofinishTtrick Message-ID: <44c90b8b.5342839@news.houston.sbcglobal.net> References: Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 18:57:30 GMT Stewart Schooley wrote: >If you put ordinary clear packing tape on a laser print, rub it on good, >and then soak it in water for 5 minutes or so, you can rub off the paper >and the ink will be trapped on the tape. An interesting idea. But, be aware that the adhesives in such tapes tend to be acidic and not good for long term use. This is why the tape seams on old cardboard boxes tend to turn dark and become brittle. This is due to the acidic decay of the adhesive. Perhaps you can find some archival quality tape? Article: 338247 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "wagil" Subject: WWII radio question Date: 27 Jul 2006 12:59:54 -0700 Message-ID: <1154030394.054797.11830@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Can anyone help me with info about the auto radios that were made during WWII that were housed a wooden cabinet? The US auto companies were apparently stuck with a surplus of auto radios when they converted to the production of wartime vehicles in WWII, and they housed these surplus radios in a wooden cabinet and sold them on the civilian market. Any info/clues about these radios would be appreciated. Wayne g Article: 338248 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: WWII radio question Date: 27 Jul 2006 13:06:31 -0700 Message-ID: <1154030791.829123.247220@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154030394.054797.11830@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> wagil wrote: > Can anyone help me with info about the auto radios that were made > during WWII that were housed a wooden cabinet? The US auto companies > were apparently stuck with a surplus of auto radios when they converted > to the production of wartime vehicles in WWII, and they housed these > surplus radios in a wooden cabinet and sold them on the civilian > market. Any info/clues about these radios would be appreciated. > > Wayne g Hi Wayne, I've seen a lot of the Philco chairsides with car radios. IIRC Motorola made some, too. Article: 338249 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nesesu" Subject: Re: WWII radio question Date: 27 Jul 2006 13:10:35 -0700 Message-ID: <1154031035.756735.186470@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1154030394.054797.11830@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Wayne, your conjecture is not quite correct. The radios were in various stages of assembly by the radio manufacturers, and under the wartime restrictions of materials, they were allowed to convert these radios to AC operation so that the materials already used in them was not wasted. They then adapted wood cabinet designs to house these rather 'unusual' chassis so they could be sold as quite good table or console radios. I would also assume that the 'front end' of the sets were modified to work with a loop antenna of some sort. Neil S. wagil wrote: > Can anyone help me with info about the auto radios that were made > during WWII that were housed a wooden cabinet? The US auto companies > were apparently stuck with a surplus of auto radios when they converted > to the production of wartime vehicles in WWII, and they housed these > surplus radios in a wooden cabinet and sold them on the civilian > market. Any info/clues about these radios would be appreciated. > > Wayne g Article: 338250 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1154030394.054797.11830@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154031035.756735.186470@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: WWII radio question Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 13:34:33 -0700 Message-ID: Yes, I once owned a 1942 Philco AR-40 radio/phono console which was a car radio housed in a wooden console cabinet. Ugliest radio I ever owned. I gave it away in 2001. You can read more, and see a couple of photos, by going to this archived discussion: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.antiques.radio+phono/browse_frm/thread/52a0a78c8c7e0457/4435fcdc420e850d?lnk=gst&q=wartime+philco+console+auto&rnum=2#4435fcdc420e850d Regards, Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 338251 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Should I go get a free Philco console radio? Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 20:42:09 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1153962875.020400.111590@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1zUxg.554$0e5.252@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1153969594.097836.39040@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In robert casey writes: >> Do not pass go do not collect 200.00 and do not gawk at the working >> girls on 42nd St. >Ahh, you're no fun.... :-) Neither is 42nd St. anymore. Ever since Guiliani sold it to Disney it's got all the excitement of a suburban shopping mall. The most outre thing you'll see nowadays is soda selling for five bucks. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 338252 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephanie Weil" Subject: Re: Should I go get a free Philco console radio? Date: 27 Jul 2006 13:44:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1154033058.489139.288740@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1153962875.020400.111590@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wizzzer@hotmail.com wrote: > I have a chance to go get one for free. It needs some repair. It's a > 1935 model ... Do you guys think I should jump on this? If you didn't, I would be forced and compelled to thrash you senseless with a massive towing chain. ;-) Hey, if the price is right, and in this case, it sure sounds like it....why not? If it turns out you don't like it, you can always flog it on Ebay or sell it off to someone else here. -- Stephanie (free radios never turned down) Weil New York City, USA Article: 338253 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephanie Weil" Subject: Re: Should I go get a free Philco console radio? Date: 27 Jul 2006 13:45:47 -0700 Message-ID: <1154033147.311872.126690@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153962875.020400.111590@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Tim Mullen wrote: > > Neither is 42nd St. anymore. Ever since Guiliani sold it to Disney > it's got all the excitement of a suburban shopping mall. The most outre > thing you'll see nowadays is soda selling for five bucks. New York City =period= just isn't fun anymore. Don't even get me started on that jazz, man. :( -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY Article: 338254 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rowdy" Subject: FA: AKAI CR-83D 8 TRACK STEREO TAPE PLAYER RECORDER EXC condition Date: 27 Jul 2006 14:46:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Great classic deck, for more info: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110014426951 Article: 338255 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Should I go get a free Philco console radio? Date: 27 Jul 2006 14:48:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1154036893.528949.108620@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1153962875.020400.111590@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Stephanie Weil wrote: > wizzzer@hotmail.com wrote: > > I have a chance to go get one for free. It needs some repair. It's a > > 1935 model ... Do you guys think I should jump on this? > > If you didn't, I would be forced and compelled to thrash you senseless > with a massive towing chain. ;-) > > Hey, if the price is right, and in this case, it sure sounds like > it....why not? If it turns out you don't like it, you can always flog > it on Ebay or sell it off to someone else here. > > -- > Stephanie (free radios never turned down) Weil > New York City, USA Don't mess with (Weil)... Stephanie the Enforcer I like it already :-p Article: 338256 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:55:05 -0400 From: Stewart Schooley Subject: Re: Found- New PhotofinishTtrick References: <44c90b8b.5342839@news.houston.sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: Nomad wrote: > Stewart Schooley wrote: > > >>If you put ordinary clear packing tape on a laser print, rub it on good, >>and then soak it in water for 5 minutes or so, you can rub off the paper >>and the ink will be trapped on the tape. > > > An interesting idea. > > But, be aware that the adhesives in such tapes tend to be acidic and > not good for long term use. This is why the tape seams on old > cardboard boxes tend to turn dark and become brittle. This is due to > the acidic decay of the adhesive. > > Perhaps you can find some archival quality tape? > Nomad, I posted questions about the tape on three model groups, so we will wait and see what they have to say. Personally, I'm not too concerned about the adhesive. I coated it with a very thin coat of acrylic paint and then used Minwax's Polycrylic, which is acrylic, to glue the tape down. I think this plus coats of lacquer will keep it sealed enough. Stewart Article: 338257 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Ode to Hormel Date: 27 Jul 2006 15:10:51 -0700 Message-ID: <1154038251.391870.271110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Rowdy wrote: NO THANKS! I CAN'T STAND SPAM!!! spam spam spam spam Lovely SPAM Wonderful SPAM! spam spam spam spam spam spam deviled egg tuna spam spam spam Tobasco chili fries and spam 5 pounds, 15 pence "What? Why that's ourageous!" So SORRY, no substitutions take it or leave it! "Well, alright...but you've forced your hand in it!" Sorry! (removes hand) Here you go... Article: 338258 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1154006576.465349.279840@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154026330.573208.90060@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Cheap Philco 70 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 15:17:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1eGdnUQ7tMD5plTZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@giganews.com> "Stephanie Weil" <> wrote in message news:1154026330.573208.90060@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > Yeah. Seriously. At least you can still find radios in the Goodwills Actually, I quit visiting the thrifts around here a few years ago. A complete waste of time unless you want broken 1980s/1990s solid-state junk. My wife still goes once in a while to look for funky T-shirts. About 6 months ago, she found a great old Montreux Jazz Festival T-shirt for my son, the jazz trumpeter. That's the last/best score that I can recall. Phil Nelson Article: 338259 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Mike Wagner Subject: In need of replacement dial glass Message-ID: Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 18:20:20 -0400 Hello all, I just acquired a Scott 312C tuner which is in great shape except for the dial. The paint on the dial glass has deteriorated and is flaking off. I am unable to even clean the glass as all the paint would be removed. Even dry cleaning it would damage it. Does anyone know of anyone that could cut me a new piece of glass and recreate my Scott's dial on the new glass? I will be able to provide detailed pictures of the dial if needed. Thanks much for the help!, ESDI Article: 338260 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Cheap Philco 70 Date: 27 Jul 2006 15:23:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1154038991.418708.229910@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1154006576.465349.279840@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Phil Nelson wrote: > "Stephanie Weil" <> wrote in message > news:1154026330.573208.90060@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > > Yeah. Seriously. At least you can still find radios in the Goodwills > > Actually, I quit visiting the thrifts around here a few years ago. A > complete waste of time unless you want broken 1980s/1990s solid-state junk. > > My wife still goes once in a while to look for funky T-shirts. About 6 > months ago, she found a great old Montreux Jazz Festival T-shirt for my son, > the jazz trumpeter. That's the last/best score that I can recall. > > Phil Nelson I got five Trinitrons, 3 Pioneers back to 1971, Philco 38-12, and then there's the local auction...last week it was a record cutting console I didn't buy, but the cabinet was nice... Article: 338261 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephanie Weil" Subject: Re: Cheap Philco 70 Date: 27 Jul 2006 15:31:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1154039481.227034.205630@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154006576.465349.279840@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Phil Nelson wrote: > Actually, I quit visiting the thrifts around here a few years ago. A > complete waste of time unless you want broken 1980s/1990s solid-state junk. I sometimes pop into them, sort of a "wishful thinking" - especially when I'm in another city. Sometimes I just end up perusing the record racks and book shelves. That is, if I can stand the smell of stale clothing long enough. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, USA Article: 338262 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "philo" References: <9fm8c2t4k5t8pokb12fdcj4moupqhevlrj@4ax.com> Subject: Re: anyone need time delay relays? Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 17:38:01 -0500 Message-ID: "William B Noble (don't reply to this address)" wrote in message news:9fm8c2t4k5t8pokb12fdcj4moupqhevlrj@4ax.com... > these are handy if you are making solid state 5y3 or 5u4 or whatever > replacements - the delay can hold the b+ off a few sec to let the > other filaments get started warming up - supposedly ths will prolong > cathode life - never measured the change in life, so judge for > yourself > well no one wanted them so I'm putting them up in my attic with my vacuum tubes Article: 338263 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Should I go get a free Philco console radio? Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:42:34 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1153962875.020400.111590@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1zUxg.554$0e5.252@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1153969594.097836.39040@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154033147.311872.126690@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> In <1154033147.311872.126690@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Stephanie Weil" writes: >Tim Mullen wrote: >> Neither is 42nd St. anymore. Ever since Guiliani sold it to Disney >> it's got all the excitement of a suburban shopping mall. The most outre >> thing you'll see nowadays is soda selling for five bucks. >New York City =period= just isn't fun anymore. Don't even get me >started on that jazz, man. :( Oh, I wouldn't go that far. The underground simply moved downtown, beyond the reach of the tourists. Depends on what you're looking for. I like my City with a bit of an edge. Saturday, August 5th, my friends Still Life Decay are playing at Albion, 30th Street between 7th & 8th Avenues. Hardcore industrial, for anyone else who likes that kinda stuff: http://stilllifedecay.com/index.htm -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 338264 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Should I go get a free Philco console radio? Date: 27 Jul 2006 15:53:03 -0700 Message-ID: <1154040783.081780.148540@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153962875.020400.111590@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Tim Mullen wrote: > In <1154033147.311872.126690@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Stephanie Weil" writes: > > >Tim Mullen wrote: > > >> Neither is 42nd St. anymore. Ever since Guiliani sold it to Disney > >> it's got all the excitement of a suburban shopping mall. The most outre > >> thing you'll see nowadays is soda selling for five bucks. > > >New York City =period= just isn't fun anymore. Don't even get me > >started on that jazz, man. :( > > Oh, I wouldn't go that far. The underground simply moved downtown, > beyond the reach of the tourists. Depends on what you're looking for. > I like my City with a bit of an edge. > > > Saturday, August 5th, my friends Still Life Decay are playing at > Albion, 30th Street between 7th & 8th Avenues. Hardcore industrial, > for anyone else who likes that kinda stuff: > > http://stilllifedecay.com/index.htm > The girl walking around in a gingham dress reminds me of We Don't Exist by the Meat Puppets for some reason. Article: 338265 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Cheap Philco 70 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:13:14 -0400 Message-ID: <12cii4bqes34s64@corp.supernews.com> References: <1154006576.465349.279840@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> The nearly $200- pricetag once shipping is added to VT makes it much less attractive in my view. Goodwill seems to use the UPS store to ship, and we know what those rates are like! John H. Article: 338266 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: FA: AKAI CR-83D 8 TRACK STEREO TAPE PLAYER RECORDER EXC condition Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 16:12:57 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 27 Jul 2006 14:46:00 -0700, "Rowdy" wrote: >Great classic deck, for more info: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110014426951 Certified Nudo-free. Article: 338267 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:33:39 -0400 From: Tom Adkins Subject: Re: Should I go get a free Philco console radio? References: <1153962875.020400.111590@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: wizzzer@hotmail.com wrote: > I have a chance to go get one for free. It needs some repair. It's a > 1935 model. The cabinet looks fine but it's not as fancy as some others > I've seen on the web. It has AM and SW. I never had a shortwave radio > before. What can you hear on that? In the past I've learned a little > basic electronics and I've put together a few circuits using other > people's plans. I know where I can download a lot of vintage > electronics repair books. From what the guy says, it sounds like I > might only have to replace the power cord and grill cloth. Do you guys > think I should jump on this? > I just re read the original post. A 1935 Philco for free!! You mean it's not at your house already? In '35 even the cheapest Philco consoles were pretty good looking. If it's a "low end" chassis it would be a good one to learn on. Go for it, the price couldn't be better. First time through, I thought I read 1946....... Article: 338268 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "[censored]" Subject: Re: FA: AKAI CR-83D 8 TRACK STEREO TAPE PLAYER RECORDER EXC condition Date: 27 Jul 2006 16:34:49 -0700 Message-ID: <1154043289.133918.80180@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> DeserTBoB wrote: > On 27 Jul 2006 14:46:00 -0700, "Rowdy" wrote: > > >Great classic deck, for more info: > > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110014426951 > > Certified Nudo-free. You ARE Nudo, boi. Keep out of RAR+P Article: 338269 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44C94FF8.7ABE30CD@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: FA: AKAI CR-83D 8 TRACK STEREO TAPE PLAYER RECORDER EXC condition References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 23:45:39 GMT "[censored]" wrote: > > DeserTBoB wrote: > > On 27 Jul 2006 14:46:00 -0700, "Rowdy" wrote: > > > > >Great classic deck, for more info: > > > > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110014426951 > > > > Certified Nudo-free. > > You ARE Nudo, boi. > > Keep out of RAR+P Stop morphing to get past people's kill filters, idiot. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 338270 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wizzzer@hotmail.com Subject: Re: Should I go get a free Philco console radio? Date: 27 Jul 2006 16:59:39 -0700 Message-ID: <1154044778.986607.180080@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153962875.020400.111590@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Very sorry to say that my vintage radio adventures were aborted about 60 min. after it began. I found the free radio on Craig's List and replied to the ad only 2 hrs after it was posted. Even so, the man told me he got swamped with replies and someone already claimed it. If anyone wants to know, it had a 37-643 cabinet from 1935 and a 37-670 chassis from 1937. Oh well, what I think I'll do is build some of my own tube equipment eventually: a tube amplifier and maybe a tube radio too. Article: 338271 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: WWII radio question Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:02:31 -0500 Message-ID: <1758-44C95417-374@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1154030394.054797.11830@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> THEY WERE MOSTLY PHILCO AND WERE ( I THINK ) MOSTLY CHAIRSIDE MODELS. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 338272 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Bell Labs telecom history site Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:20:05 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: A post on nyc.transit about the proto-cellphones aboard the 1969 Metroliner trains led me to this site: http://long-lines.net/tech-equip/index.html There's some interesting articles about early coaxial and microwave systems. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 338273 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 20:25:04 -0400 From: Tom Adkins Subject: Re: Should I go get a free Philco console radio? References: <1153962875.020400.111590@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154044778.986607.180080@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: wizzzer@hotmail.com wrote: > Very sorry to say that my vintage radio adventures were aborted about > 60 min. after it began. I found the free radio on Craig's List and > replied to the ad only 2 hrs after it was posted. Even so, the man told > me he got swamped with replies and someone already claimed it. If > anyone wants to know, it had a 37-643 cabinet from 1935 and a 37-670 > chassis from 1937. Oh well, what I think I'll do is build some of my > own tube equipment eventually: a tube amplifier and maybe a tube radio > too. > If you watch for Ebay listings close to home, big consoles can often be had for almost nothing. The shipping often exceeds the value of the set so they get no bids. Article: 338274 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Phipps" Subject: Re: Cheap Philco 70 Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 19:26:29 -0500 Message-ID: <12cime4qfe3d5c2@corp.supernews.com> References: <1154006576.465349.279840@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154026330.573208.90060@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1eGdnUQ7tMD5plTZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@giganews.com> Still plenty of good buys in the thrifts around here... but not antique radio related. Found tons of neat Super 8mm film stuff (my other hobby) and countless expensive name brand clothes / shoes for pennies on the dollar. SP "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:1eGdnUQ7tMD5plTZnZ2dnUVZ_umdnZ2d@giganews.com... > "Stephanie Weil" <> wrote in message > news:1154026330.573208.90060@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... >> Yeah. Seriously. At least you can still find radios in the Goodwills > > Actually, I quit visiting the thrifts around here a few years ago. A > complete waste of time unless you want broken 1980s/1990s solid-state > junk. Article: 338275 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: philco 37-116 sighting on TV Date: 27 Jul 2006 17:47:04 -0700 Message-ID: <1154047624.090005.74270@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153967656.142056.157930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Eddie Brimer wrote: > I was flipping through the channels and came across a biography of the > Hershey magnate. Think his name was Milton. First time I saw the > console was in vintage B+W footage of him in his study. I flicked > around and came back and there it was again! this time it was on > display in his home which is apparently on a tourist attraction now. It > was TLC or biography. I can't remember which. Cool to see this fine > radio in actual use. This man could have afforded anything and he chose > the 37-116. I wonder if the radio on display is his actual radio. Article: 338276 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1153962875.020400.111590@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154044778.986607.180080@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Should I go get a free Philco console radio? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:48:16 GMT wrote in message news:1154044778.986607.180080@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > If > anyone wants to know, it had a 37-643 cabinet from 1935 and a 37-670 > chassis from 1937. > A 37-643 cabinet would be from 1937 also. Article: 338277 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1153967656.142056.157930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154047624.090005.74270@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: philco 37-116 sighting on TV Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:51:29 GMT "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1154047624.090005.74270@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Eddie Brimer wrote: >> I was flipping through the channels and came across a biography of the >> Hershey magnate. Think his name was Milton. First time I saw the >> console was in vintage B+W footage of him in his study. I flicked >> around and came back and there it was again! this time it was on >> display in his home which is apparently on a tourist attraction now. It >> was TLC or biography. I can't remember which. Cool to see this fine >> radio in actual use. This man could have afforded anything and he chose >> the 37-116. I wonder if the radio on display is his actual radio. > Echo? Article: 338278 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1153967656.142056.157930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154047624.090005.74270@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44C96064.E4C29DEF@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: philco 37-116 sighting on TV Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:57:54 GMT "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44C96064.E4C29DEF@earthlink.net... > jim menning wrote: >> >> "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message >> news:1154047624.090005.74270@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> > >> > Eddie Brimer wrote: >> >> I was flipping through the channels and came across a biography of the >> >> Hershey magnate. Think his name was Milton. First time I saw the >> >> console was in vintage B+W footage of him in his study. I flicked >> >> around and came back and there it was again! this time it was on >> >> display in his home which is apparently on a tourist attraction now. It >> >> was TLC or biography. I can't remember which. Cool to see this fine >> >> radio in actual use. This man could have afforded anything and he chose >> >> the 37-116. I wonder if the radio on display is his actual radio. >> > >> >> Echo? > > > No, he just corrected the subject line. ;-) > > > Aha! Article: 338279 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Cadillac Stereo Question Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 01:01:00 GMT This is pretty close to OT, except that possibly somebody here may be familiar. Yes, I work on car radios, but typically nothing newer than mid-1960's, and AM only. The stereo in my car has started to act up. It plays fine, if you like listening to the left channel only. The right channel is there, but you need to move the balance way over and turn the volume up. It's this way for AM and FM, mono and stereo -- I haven't yet tried a tape. This car is a 1993 Sedan De Ville -- getting old, but certainly not in the antique department. It's the stock stereo with "Symphony Sound" written on it -- as opposed to the Bose or other options. The dilemma is this: does anybody know what's inside this thing? Just like the rest of the car, I'm not so sure I want to work on anything that's less than 40 years old. I know some Cadillacs have stereos with amps by each speaker -- don't know if this is one of them. I also don't know if it has conventional electronics inside, or if it's 95% dedicated IC's that I'll never find replacements for. Plus I don't know how to get it out of the car -- so I'm asking if anyone here is familiar -- is it worth trying to pull out and fix? It's a great sounding stereo; I'd love to fix and keep it -- but if I find myself scratching my head and wondering which of those black things is the audio module, there's no sense in pulling it out. I'd do a conversion, but it's digital. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 338280 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: FA: AKAI CR-83D 8 TRACK STEREO TAPE PLAYER RECORDER EXC condition Date: 27 Jul 2006 18:39:29 -0700 Message-ID: <1154050769.405265.308560@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > "[censored]" wrote: > > > > DeserTBoB wrote: > > > On 27 Jul 2006 14:46:00 -0700, "Rowdy" wrote: > > > > > > >Great classic deck, for more info: > > > > > > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110014426951 > > > > > > Certified Nudo-free. > > > > You ARE Nudo, boi. > > > > Keep out of RAR+P > > > Stop morphing to get past people's kill filters, idiot. You're his friend. PS Morph hell! Google lets you use different nicknames on different group. So I missed a crosspost. Ah, hurry up and die or whatever it is you're gonna do. Article: 338281 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: 45 RPM ,Elvis and Beatles Themed 1952 Seeburg 100 C ,Juke Box, Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 20:07:16 -0600 Message-ID: <22624-44C97154-401@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> References: <1153949367.427690.121970@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Ok c`mon now .. This is a very popular jukebox . All the parts he changed are available for it and it would not be any harder to redo it than do it from its original state . The original cabinets on these i believe were all faux painted and re-veneering is normal on these . The mirror tiles are reproduced and easy to replace , New animation kits & pilasters are also available . A cartridge upgrade is also very normal for these . I dont care for the cabinet color ..veneer would cover that . Article: 338282 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:54:06 -0400 From: Tom Adkins Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question References: Message-ID: Gary Tayman wrote: > This is pretty close to OT, except that possibly somebody here may be > familiar. > > Yes, I work on car radios, but typically nothing newer than mid-1960's, and > AM only. > > The stereo in my car has started to act up. It plays fine, if you like > listening to the left channel only. The right channel is there, but you > need to move the balance way over and turn the volume up. It's this way for > AM and FM, mono and stereo -- I haven't yet tried a tape. > > This car is a 1993 Sedan De Ville -- getting old, but certainly not in the > antique department. It's the stock stereo with "Symphony Sound" written on > it -- as opposed to the Bose or other options. > > The dilemma is this: does anybody know what's inside this thing? Just like > the rest of the car, I'm not so sure I want to work on anything that's less > than 40 years old. I know some Cadillacs have stereos with amps by each > speaker -- don't know if this is one of them. I also don't know if it has > conventional electronics inside, or if it's 95% dedicated IC's that I'll > never find replacements for. Plus I don't know how to get it out of the > car -- so I'm asking if anyone here is familiar -- is it worth trying to > pull out and fix? It's a great sounding stereo; I'd love to fix and keep > it -- but if I find myself scratching my head and wondering which of those > black things is the audio module, there's no sense in pulling it out. > > I'd do a conversion, but it's digital. > Gary, Sadly, being a 1993. the radio will contain dedicated ICs and surface mount components. It's doubtful that you can repair it yourself. Repair depots generally do board swaps or unit replacements on this (and later era) GM radios, along with Ford, Chrysler, etc. I recently had a 1992 Ford (Lincoln) AM\FM\CD Premium Sound radio repaired. It cost me ~$100. It would have cost more to install an aftermarket system and bypass the factory remote amp so I'd say it was worth it. In my case I thought one channel of the remote amp had failed. It turns out that there was a common chip failure in the radio itself. I would suggest talking to the folks in the service department at your local Caddy dealer and find out where they send radios for repair\warranty replacement. The Ford dealer that I worked for sent warranty radios to a local company for exchange, but they (Electra-Sound) also did board level repair on walk-ins. The failed boards are sent to ??? for actual repair\rebuilding. Nobody actually "repairs" auto radios anymore. There's little that can be done "in house". A buddy had an AM/FM/Cassette from a 92 Bonneville repaired at a local shop. They ordered the parts from the same company that repairs/replaces for the dealers (Electra-Sound). The local shop only made money on the actual repair (board swap) and the diag. They had to order the part, pay for it, and install it with no mark up to compete. They were still over the price if my buddy had taken it directly to E-S. Those poor guys can't compete! I took the Lincoln radio to them, wanting to "deal locally" and they turned me down saying that they don't do car radios newer than about 1985 or so. I would have gladly paid a bit more to patronize a local shop. Article: 338283 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question Date: 27 Jul 2006 19:59:55 -0700 Message-ID: <1154055595.361047.59630@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Tom Adkins wrote: > Gary Tayman wrote: > > This is pretty close to OT, except that possibly somebody here may be > > familiar. > > > > Yes, I work on car radios, but typically nothing newer than mid-1960's, and > > AM only. > > > > The stereo in my car has started to act up. It plays fine, if you like > > listening to the left channel only. The right channel is there, but you > > need to move the balance way over and turn the volume up. It's this way for > > AM and FM, mono and stereo -- I haven't yet tried a tape. > > > > This car is a 1993 Sedan De Ville -- getting old, but certainly not in the > > antique department. It's the stock stereo with "Symphony Sound" written on > > it -- as opposed to the Bose or other options. > > > > The dilemma is this: does anybody know what's inside this thing? Just like > > the rest of the car, I'm not so sure I want to work on anything that's less > > than 40 years old. I know some Cadillacs have stereos with amps by each > > speaker -- don't know if this is one of them. I also don't know if it has > > conventional electronics inside, or if it's 95% dedicated IC's that I'll > > never find replacements for. Plus I don't know how to get it out of the > > car -- so I'm asking if anyone here is familiar -- is it worth trying to > > pull out and fix? It's a great sounding stereo; I'd love to fix and keep > > it -- but if I find myself scratching my head and wondering which of those > > black things is the audio module, there's no sense in pulling it out. > > > > I'd do a conversion, but it's digital. > > > > Gary, > Sadly, being a 1993. the radio will contain dedicated ICs and surface mount > components. It's doubtful that you can repair it yourself. Repair depots generally do > board swaps or unit replacements on this (and later era) GM radios, along with Ford, > Chrysler, etc. > I recently had a 1992 Ford (Lincoln) AM\FM\CD Premium Sound radio repaired. It cost > me ~$100. It would have cost more to install an aftermarket system and bypass the > factory remote amp so I'd say it was worth it. In my case I thought one channel of the > remote amp had failed. It turns out that there was a common chip failure in the radio > itself. > I would suggest talking to the folks in the service department at your local Caddy > dealer and find out where they send radios for repair\warranty replacement. The Ford > dealer that I worked for sent warranty radios to a local company for exchange, but > they (Electra-Sound) also did board level repair on walk-ins. The failed boards are > sent to ??? for actual repair\rebuilding. > Nobody actually "repairs" auto radios anymore. There's little that can be done "in > house". A buddy had an AM/FM/Cassette from a 92 Bonneville repaired at a local shop. > They ordered the parts from the same company that repairs/replaces for the dealers > (Electra-Sound). The local shop only made money on the actual repair (board swap) and > the diag. They had to order the part, pay for it, and install it with no mark up to > compete. They were still over the price if my buddy had taken it directly to E-S. > Those poor guys can't compete! I took the Lincoln radio to them, wanting to "deal > locally" and they turned me down saying that they don't do car radios newer than about > 1985 or so. I would have gladly paid a bit more to patronize a local shop. I'll bet not, having seen a few Delco stereos. I'll bet it's modular as all get out. I'll bet I have an amp board if I look at my '94 Buick set. If you meant 19_83 I've got two of those, and the only difference between UX-1 and Symphony Sound that year was that Cadillac had an "Information Center" so the SS had no clock module. I think I might still have the service manuals too, IF you're lucky. Article: 338284 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Radio Shack Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 21:02:46 -0600 Message-ID: <22624-44C97E56-402@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> Our local diehard parts house bought all the components and cabinets >from our now no more local radio shack . Its nice to have those still near by . I was surprised to see he did that . Our local parts house is still much like those in the 70`s and he deals in Fluke test equipment . Article: 338285 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Radio Shack Date: 27 Jul 2006 20:12:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1154056320.576981.83740@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <22624-44C97E56-402@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> Ken G. wrote to me finally: The chassis is out of a zenith t.o. radio missing all the tubes and a bad filter . You never give up. From babushka{AT}dom{DOT}com Sat Jul 29 12:03:34 EDT 2006 Article: 338286 of rec.antiques.radio+phono NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:25:04 -0500 From: "Bob" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Rocking Tuning Gang Alignment Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2006 22:25:03 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: Lines: 8 NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.162.7.235 X-Trace: sv3-DweSMznVrqnI3CuW+3GCN1cJYj3KNYvrjbjmGjqafjfNIgUSX5I4KWBK/KNul00pc1ijY/hhffGROhq!dcE7Axpec+xM9/Uy7srNIABNwDJTRho7cijam76Nv4zvmrRcbpk2nIJRQKVyU7JblnldFG3IYeuc!6n0bZlU= X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:338286 Can someone explain the alignment procedure that says "...while rocking tuning gang". Exactly how does one do this? Thanks. Article: 338287 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim" Subject: Minervia Morale receiver and grid bias Date: 27 Jul 2006 21:00:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1154059201.764829.312610@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Irecently acquired a rusty/ dirty Minerva W-117 (early) Morale receiver. After removing the mud dauber nest and the dirt and spider webs I start looking at the John Rider schematic (from Nostalgia Air) and the unit. The schematic appears to have several errors! The reason I say errors is it show the 2 audio output tubes as 50L6's with a 25Z6 rectifier and then five 6 volt tubes in series with 40 and 20 ohm resistors . Even with the 20 ohm resistor in parallel with a 6 to 8 volt dial light the total filament drop calculates out to be 165 Volts. The chassis is labeled for 25L6's and that's whats installed. Then 115 volt filament + resistor drop then makes the 115V AC-DC in. To get 6 volts for the dial lamp it should be in parallel with the 40 ohm resistor (as wired) not the 20 ohm dropping resistor as shown. I wonder what other things I've missed?! Some shade tree tech. tried to fix it at one time and the 29 ohm grid bias resistor from the switched side of the AC-DC line to the chassis??? is gone! If it was ever there. The shade tree tech had also wired everything that went to the switch to one terminal and then directly to the chassis. I know that if the chassis to cabinet cap goes bad there's a 50% (really 100%) chance that there will be full line voltage on the cabinet, but what's a good way to generate the grid bias for the RF amp and IF tubes when there is no stationed tuned in without the 29 ohm resistor? The reason I know the 29 ohm resistor is a bias resistor is the first B+ filter cap negative lead goes to it. The second filter cap negative goes to chassis. Should I just go with a polarized plug with safety ground to the cabinet and replace the 29 ohm resistor from neutral to the chassis? I normally replace the line cord with a three wire plug on AC-DC sets with neutral to Cabinet to prevent a shocking experience and add a fuse to the hot side. But this grid bias resistor is a puzzle, since neutral and return are connect at breaker boxes. I'm open to suggestions. Article: 338288 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Rocking Tuning Gang Alignment Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 04:04:40 GMT "Bob" wrote in message news:FYednQfG1PANHlTZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Can someone explain the alignment procedure that says "...while rocking tuning > gang". > > Exactly how does one do this? > > Thanks. > > Same way you "rock" a cradle. Move the tuning knob back and forth. jim menning Article: 338289 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Bell Labs telecom history site References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 04:05:41 GMT Speaking of which, I remember doing a bunch of testing at TRW systems Group back in the early 70s on "leaky coax". Great fun in an anechoic chamber wtih a sniffer antenna and a spectrum analzer. The basic concept. a 50% aluminized mylar foil shield on the cable, rather than a full circumference. It still looked like a 50 ohm coax. But radiated nicely off the unshileded side. Why would you want something like that you ask? Simple, mines. No more jack boxes and headsets. Just walkie talkies and a string of coax down the tunnel roof. Jeff Tim Mullen wrote: > A post on nyc.transit about the proto-cellphones aboard the > 1969 Metroliner trains led me to this site: > > http://long-lines.net/tech-equip/index.html > > There's some interesting articles about early coaxial and > microwave systems. > -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 338290 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:24:22 -0400 From: Tom Adkins Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question References: <1154055595.361047.59630@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Steven wrote: > > > I'll bet not, having seen a few Delco stereos. I'll bet it's modular as > all get out. I'll bet I have an amp board if I look at my '94 Buick > set. If you meant 19_83 I've got two of those, and the only difference > between UX-1 and Symphony Sound that year was that Cadillac had an > "Information Center" so the SS had no clock module. I think I might > still have the service manuals too, IF you're lucky. > You may have a point Steven. I know that during the 80s and very early 90's most GM radios differed only by the internal boards and faceplates. One could swap boards and tape drives (CD??) between radios and come up with the ultimate with some give and take. I once had a late 80s Delco AM/FM radio built into a large benchtop box with speakers, antenna and power supply. I asked the builder why there was no tape deck, he replied that there was no room in the radio because of the added amplifiers and other things. According to him, the addition of a tape deck meant a decrease in the available amp sections. I don't know if this is true, I'm just passing on what I've heard. Article: 338291 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 00:37:06 -0400 From: Tom Adkins Subject: Re: Radio Shack References: <22624-44C97E56-402@storefull-3233.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Ken G. wrote: > Our local diehard parts house bought all the components and cabinets > from our now no more local radio shack . Its nice to have those still > near by . I was surprised to see he did that . > Our local parts house is still much like those in the 70`s and he deals > in Fluke test equipment . > Count yourself as lucky Ken. There are no "local parts houses" within 45 miles of me. The last was El-A-CO Electronics in Elyria, Ohio.(6 miles) They are very much missed by many in this area. There is an outfit called Superior Electronics about 30 miles away in Suburban Cleveland, but they are fading fast judging by the last time I was there. They are "almost" a Radio Shack clone. They've had to take on other things to keep them alive. They don't do cell phones yet, but ... Article: 338292 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Found- New PhotofinishTtrick Message-ID: References: <44c90b8b.5342839@news.houston.sbcglobal.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 04:43:19 GMT >Nomad wrote: >> Stewart Schooley wrote: >> >> >>>If you put ordinary clear packing tape on a laser print, rub it on good, >>>and then soak it in water for 5 minutes or so, you can rub off the paper >>>and the ink will be trapped on the tape. >> >> >> An interesting idea. >> >> But, be aware that the adhesives in such tapes tend to be acidic and >> not good for long term use. This is why the tape seams on old >> cardboard boxes tend to turn dark and become brittle. This is due to >> the acidic decay of the adhesive. >> >> Perhaps you can find some archival quality tape? >> >Nomad, > >I posted questions about the tape on three model groups, so we will wait >and see what they have to say. > >Personally, I'm not too concerned about the adhesive. I coated it with a >very thin coat of acrylic paint and then used Minwax's Polycrylic, which >is acrylic, to glue the tape down. I think this plus coats of lacquer >will keep it sealed enough. > >Stewart You might want to look in an art/drafting supply shop for a product called Stanpat Film, if I have remembered the name correctly. It is (was?) a matte finish thin adhesive plastic film with a backing paper. I used to use it to put legends, etc. on maps. You could photocopy onto it, cut out and stick the photocopied text on an original drawn map, then reproduce the map by diazo copying, and the outline of the film would not show. If it could be printed on by photocopier, I expect a laser printer would also work. Gordon Richmond Article: 338293 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nesesu" Subject: Re: Minervia Morale receiver and grid bias Date: 27 Jul 2006 22:00:15 -0700 Message-ID: <1154062815.747030.188000@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1154059201.764829.312610@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Jim, I restored a Minerva 'Tropicmaster', and there were several versions with slight diffeences. It could have 2 50L6 in parallel or 2 25L6 in series, but in either case the filament string is 300mA. The 29 ohm is often blasted to oblivion since the set is an 'almost hot chassis' with only the 29 ohms between line and chassis and you have to open a little door to access the antenna and ground terminals, exposing the very live chassis. One slip with the ground wire [if the set is plugged in] and kapoof, one vanished composition resistor!! Indeed the pilot lamp should be across the 40 ohm. As usual with an AA5 type circuit, it is a trade off about grounding. The ideal is to reconnect the power switch into the hot lead and connect the polarized pin to chassis[well, to the up side of the 27 ohm] but that entails some rewiring and non-authentic circuit. On mine I had some problems with instability, and had to carefully select the ground points for the bypass capacitors. Being in the case helped a lot, but be SURE the insulating blocks are all correctly positiond and there are no 'too long' screws that might poke through an insulator block!!! Nice performing set once it is working properly! Neil S. Jim wrote: > Irecently acquired a rusty/ dirty Minerva W-117 (early) Morale > receiver. After removing the mud dauber nest and the dirt and spider > webs I start looking at the John Rider schematic (from Nostalgia Air) > and the unit. The schematic appears to have several errors! The reason > I say errors is it show the 2 audio output tubes as 50L6's with a 25Z6 > rectifier and then five 6 volt tubes in series with 40 and 20 ohm > resistors . Even with the 20 ohm resistor in parallel with a 6 to 8 > volt dial light the total filament drop calculates out to be 165 Volts. > The chassis is labeled for 25L6's and that's whats installed. Then 115 > volt filament + resistor drop then makes the 115V AC-DC in. To get 6 > volts for the dial lamp it should be in parallel with the 40 ohm > resistor (as wired) not the 20 ohm dropping resistor as shown. I wonder > what other things I've missed?! > > Some shade tree tech. tried to fix it at one time and the 29 ohm grid > bias resistor from the switched > side of the AC-DC line to the chassis??? is gone! If it was ever there. > The shade tree tech had also wired everything that went to the switch > to one terminal and then directly to the chassis. I know that if the > chassis to cabinet cap goes bad there's a 50% (really 100%) chance that > there will be full line voltage on the cabinet, but what's a good way > to generate the grid bias for the RF amp and IF tubes when there is no > stationed tuned in without the 29 ohm resistor? The reason I know the > 29 ohm resistor is a bias resistor is the first B+ filter cap negative > lead goes to it. The second filter cap negative goes to chassis. > > Should I just go with a polarized plug with safety ground to the > cabinet and replace the 29 ohm resistor from neutral to the chassis? > I normally replace the line cord with a three wire plug on AC-DC sets > with neutral to Cabinet to prevent a shocking experience and add a fuse > to the hot side. But this grid bias resistor is a puzzle, since neutral > and return are connect at breaker boxes. > > I'm open to suggestions. Article: 338294 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Bell Labs telecom history site Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 05:15:54 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In Jeffrey D Angus writes: >Speaking of which, I remember doing a bunch of testing at TRW >systems Group back in the early 70s on "leaky coax". >Great fun in an anechoic chamber wtih a sniffer antenna and a >spectrum analzer. >The basic concept. a 50% aluminized mylar foil shield on the >cable, rather than a full circumference. It still looked like >a 50 ohm coax. But radiated nicely off the unshileded side. >Why would you want something like that you ask? Simple, mines. >No more jack boxes and headsets. Just walkie talkies and a string >of coax down the tunnel roof. Interesting. Why not use something that's designed to radiate, like a long wire? Too hard to match? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 338295 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 01:24:30 -0400 From: Tom Adkins Subject: Way OT but of possible interest here. Message-ID: Nothing to do with antique radio so spank me soundly if necessary. Lots of follks here are also into modern electronics and I'm not. So here goes: My son just bought a Robo-Sapien V.2. Has anyone seen this thing?? It's amazing. Ok. it can walk, no big deal. It can talk. Well yea the speech is random at times, but the speech is pretty directed when necessary. It can "learn" from it's environment. It gets "bored" without input and will go off on tangental trips exploring the house. It can "learn" it's environment. It got "focused" on the cat yesterday. The cat would only move a foot or so and the "robot" seemed to "chase" it. It can be taught speech, so I was thinking "here kitty, kitty" of course. It's pre programmed to interact with humans and aside from it's loud "whoa" startle response the dude is really human like. It's pretty cool to say the least. Does anyone here have one that can offer some input? This thing is almost scary, as I grew up watching The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits. I'm not sure what to think about this battery operated (toy??person??thing??) He has come to "rest" on my work bench, kind of like his home base. I don't mind sharing space, I just don't want him taking over and doing a better job at fixing radios. :) Article: 338296 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Bell Labs telecom history site Date: 27 Jul 2006 22:31:46 -0700 Message-ID: <1154064706.387301.184330@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: Tim Mullen wrote: > In Jeffrey D Angus writes: > > >Speaking of which, I remember doing a bunch of testing at TRW > >systems Group back in the early 70s on "leaky coax". > > >Great fun in an anechoic chamber wtih a sniffer antenna and a > >spectrum analzer. > > >The basic concept. a 50% aluminized mylar foil shield on the > >cable, rather than a full circumference. It still looked like > >a 50 ohm coax. But radiated nicely off the unshileded side. > > >Why would you want something like that you ask? Simple, mines. > >No more jack boxes and headsets. Just walkie talkies and a string > >of coax down the tunnel roof. > > Interesting. Why not use something that's designed to radiate, > like a long wire? Too hard to match? My understanding is that a radiator isn't what's needed as they were looking for very weak radiation, and he said mines, so maybe they were also trying to detect persons. Article: 338297 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Way OT but of possible interest here. Date: 27 Jul 2006 22:34:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1154064861.395469.13100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: Tom Adkins wrote: > Nothing to do with antique radio so spank me soundly if necessary. Lots of follks > here are also into modern electronics and I'm not. So here goes: > My son just bought a Robo-Sapien V.2. Has anyone seen this thing?? It's amazing. > > Ok. it can walk, no big deal. It can talk. Well yea the speech is random at times, > but the speech is pretty directed when necessary. It can "learn" from it's > environment. It gets "bored" without input and will go off on tangental trips > exploring the house. It can "learn" it's environment. It got "focused" on the cat > yesterday. The cat would only move a foot or so and the "robot" seemed to "chase" it. > It can be taught speech, so I was thinking "here kitty, kitty" of course. > It's pre programmed to interact with humans and aside from it's loud "whoa" startle > response the dude is really human like. It's pretty cool to say the least. > > Does anyone here have one that can offer some input? This thing is almost scary, as > I grew up watching The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits. I'm not sure what to think > about this battery operated (toy??person??thing??) > He has come to "rest" on my work bench, kind of like his home base. I don't mind > sharing space, I just don't want him taking over and doing a better job at fixing > radios. :) Make it run for parts and coffee. Article: 338298 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Bell Labs telecom history site Date: 27 Jul 2006 22:37:03 -0700 Message-ID: <1154065022.991770.303570@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Tim Mullen wrote: > > > > In Jeffrey D Angus writes: > > > > >Speaking of which, I remember doing a bunch of testing at TRW > > >systems Group back in the early 70s on "leaky coax". > > > > >Great fun in an anechoic chamber wtih a sniffer antenna and a > > >spectrum analzer. > > > > >The basic concept. a 50% aluminized mylar foil shield on the > > >cable, rather than a full circumference. It still looked like > > >a 50 ohm coax. But radiated nicely off the unshileded side. > > > > >Why would you want something like that you ask? Simple, mines. > > >No more jack boxes and headsets. Just walkie talkies and a string > > >of coax down the tunnel roof. > > > > Interesting. Why not use something that's designed to radiate, > > like a long wire? Too hard to match? > > > Too lossy. You want the signal to go quite a ways into the tunnel/ > mine/factory rather than radiate all the power at the near end. That makes sense, once I read the OP again. Article: 338299 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 02:02:06 -0400 From: Tom Adkins Subject: Re: Way OT but of possible interest here. References: <1154064861.395469.13100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <_-OdnSKlULEyOlTZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com> Steven wrote: > Tom Adkins wrote: > >>Nothing to do with antique radio so spank me soundly if necessary. Lots of follks >>here are also into modern electronics and I'm not. So here goes: >> My son just bought a Robo-Sapien V.2. Has anyone seen this thing?? It's amazing. >> >> Ok. it can walk, no big deal. It can talk. Well yea the speech is random at times, >>but the speech is pretty directed when necessary. It can "learn" from it's >>environment. It gets "bored" without input and will go off on tangental trips >>exploring the house. It can "learn" it's environment. It got "focused" on the cat >>yesterday. The cat would only move a foot or so and the "robot" seemed to "chase" it. >>It can be taught speech, so I was thinking "here kitty, kitty" of course. >> It's pre programmed to interact with humans and aside from it's loud "whoa" startle >>response the dude is really human like. It's pretty cool to say the least. >> >> Does anyone here have one that can offer some input? This thing is almost scary, as >>I grew up watching The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits. I'm not sure what to think >>about this battery operated (toy??person??thing??) >> He has come to "rest" on my work bench, kind of like his home base. I don't mind >>sharing space, I just don't want him taking over and doing a better job at fixing >>radios. :) > > > Make it run for parts and coffee. > I was thinking strippers and booze... Article: 338300 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 02:28:19 -0400 Message-ID: <3cydnVR7r5BRMFTZnZ2dnUVZ_tqdnZ2d@comcast.com> GAry, did you look on eBay for another radio just for reference? Lots of factory radios of the 70's-90's sell cheap since folks went with aftermarket stuff as an upgrade to the (then) not so "bling" factory ones. I miss the old Fords I drove with factory AM only radios... those things were really GREAT AM sets, usually. I had an old 68 Ford LTD Wagon... drove it until the gas tank fell out (fixed it) and finally the rear axel broke free from rust and I had to call the yard and have it towed away. The old 390 still ran great. I was so broke then... 1980. I bought a 73 Duster next...slant 6. I was just starting in the sound/lighting/talent biz... working my ass off... living in an old farmhouse on a dirt road outside Ann Arbor, MI.... eeesh. Mark Oppat "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:gldyg.16863$2u4.9820@trnddc06... > This is pretty close to OT, except that possibly somebody here may be > familiar. > > Yes, I work on car radios, but typically nothing newer than mid-1960's, and > AM only. > > The stereo in my car has started to act up. It plays fine, if you like > listening to the left channel only. The right channel is there, but you > need to move the balance way over and turn the volume up. It's this way for > AM and FM, mono and stereo -- I haven't yet tried a tape. > > This car is a 1993 Sedan De Ville -- getting old, but certainly not in the > antique department. It's the stock stereo with "Symphony Sound" written on > it -- as opposed to the Bose or other options. > > The dilemma is this: does anybody know what's inside this thing? Just like > the rest of the car, I'm not so sure I want to work on anything that's less > than 40 years old. I know some Cadillacs have stereos with amps by each > speaker -- don't know if this is one of them. I also don't know if it has > conventional electronics inside, or if it's 95% dedicated IC's that I'll > never find replacements for. Plus I don't know how to get it out of the > car -- so I'm asking if anyone here is familiar -- is it worth trying to > pull out and fix? It's a great sounding stereo; I'd love to fix and keep > it -- but if I find myself scratching my head and wondering which of those > black things is the audio module, there's no sense in pulling it out. > > I'd do a conversion, but it's digital. > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > Article: 338301 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44C9ADD3.4F3E431C@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Way OT but of possible interest here. References: <1154064861.395469.13100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <_-OdnSKlULEyOlTZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 06:26:08 GMT Tom Adkins wrote: > > Steven wrote: > > Tom Adkins wrote: > > > >>Nothing to do with antique radio so spank me soundly if necessary. Lots of follks > >>here are also into modern electronics and I'm not. So here goes: > >> My son just bought a Robo-Sapien V.2. Has anyone seen this thing?? It's amazing. > >> > >> Ok. it can walk, no big deal. It can talk. Well yea the speech is random at times, > >>but the speech is pretty directed when necessary. It can "learn" from it's > >>environment. It gets "bored" without input and will go off on tangental trips > >>exploring the house. It can "learn" it's environment. It got "focused" on the cat > >>yesterday. The cat would only move a foot or so and the "robot" seemed to "chase" it. > >>It can be taught speech, so I was thinking "here kitty, kitty" of course. > >> It's pre programmed to interact with humans and aside from it's loud "whoa" startle > >>response the dude is really human like. It's pretty cool to say the least. > >> > >> Does anyone here have one that can offer some input? This thing is almost scary, as > >>I grew up watching The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits. I'm not sure what to think > >>about this battery operated (toy??person??thing??) > >> He has come to "rest" on my work bench, kind of like his home base. I don't mind > >>sharing space, I just don't want him taking over and doing a better job at fixing > >>radios. :) > > > > > > Make it run for parts and coffee. > > > > I was thinking strippers and booze... Then it wouldn't come back. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 338302 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Way OT but of possible interest here. Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 07:18:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1154064861.395469.13100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <_-OdnSKlULEyOlTZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com> <44C9ADD3.4F3E431C@earthlink.net> In <44C9ADD3.4F3E431C@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: >Tom Adkins wrote: >> >> I was thinking strippers and booze... > Then it wouldn't come back. Hah! What could be worse is if it did come back and the strippers hang out with it, rather than you. Man, that would suck! :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 338303 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Bell Labs telecom history site Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 07:22:20 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <44C9A1E3.621FFB70@earthlink.net> In <44C9A1E3.621FFB70@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: >Tim Mullen wrote: [leaky coax] >> Interesting. Why not use something that's designed to radiate, >> like a long wire? Too hard to match? > Too lossy. You want the signal to go quite a ways into the tunnel/ >mine/factory rather than radiate all the power at the near end. Assuming a long run that's many times the wavelength... is that how a single wire would behave? Asking, here -- antenna design isn't my strong suit. I'd always thought it would radiate over the entire length of the wire, or is that only under certain conditions, or would that not happen ever? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 338304 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44C9C258.AEB05CE6@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Bell Labs telecom history site References: <44C9A1E3.621FFB70@earthlink.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 07:53:44 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > > In <44C9A1E3.621FFB70@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: > > >Tim Mullen wrote: > > [leaky coax] > > >> Interesting. Why not use something that's designed to radiate, > >> like a long wire? Too hard to match? > > > Too lossy. You want the signal to go quite a ways into the tunnel/ > >mine/factory rather than radiate all the power at the near end. > > Assuming a long run that's many times the wavelength... is that > how a single wire would behave? Asking, here -- antenna design > isn't my strong suit. I'd always thought it would radiate over > the entire length of the wire, or is that only under certain conditions, > or would that not happen ever? You would have some hot spots, and others with no signal at all. There would be problems with reflected signals canceling out, as well. Antenna Specialist made the first commercial slotted coax I saw. it was marketed to install in highway tunnels to prevent the loss of AM & FM radio signals. I may still have a catalog with the specs. might be interesting. shows a few more hits for Slotted Coax. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 338305 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question Date: 28 Jul 2006 01:56:02 -0700 Message-ID: <1154076962.747353.63740@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Mark Oppat wrote: > GAry, did you look on eBay for another radio just for reference? Lots of > factory radios of the 70's-90's sell cheap since folks went with aftermarket > stuff as an upgrade to the (then) not so "bling" factory ones. > > I miss the old Fords I drove with factory AM only radios... those things > were really GREAT AM sets, usually. I had an old 68 Ford LTD Wagon... drove > it until the gas tank fell out (fixed it) and finally the rear axel broke > free from rust and I had to call the yard and have it towed away. The old > 390 still ran great. I was so broke then... 1980. I bought a 73 Duster > next...slant 6. I was just starting in the sound/lighting/talent biz... > working my ass off... living in an old farmhouse on a dirt road outside Ann > Arbor, MI.... eeesh. > > Mark Oppat > > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:gldyg.16863$2u4.9820@trnddc06... > > This is pretty close to OT, except that possibly somebody here may be > > familiar. > > > > Yes, I work on car radios, but typically nothing newer than mid-1960's, > and > > AM only. > > > > The stereo in my car has started to act up. It plays fine, if you like > > listening to the left channel only. The right channel is there, but you > > need to move the balance way over and turn the volume up. It's this way > for > > AM and FM, mono and stereo -- I haven't yet tried a tape. > > > > This car is a 1993 Sedan De Ville -- getting old, but certainly not in the > > antique department. It's the stock stereo with "Symphony Sound" written > on > > it -- as opposed to the Bose or other options. > > > > The dilemma is this: does anybody know what's inside this thing? Just > like > > the rest of the car, I'm not so sure I want to work on anything that's > less > > than 40 years old. I know some Cadillacs have stereos with amps by each > > speaker -- don't know if this is one of them. I also don't know if it has > > conventional electronics inside, or if it's 95% dedicated IC's that I'll > > never find replacements for. Plus I don't know how to get it out of the > > car -- so I'm asking if anyone here is familiar -- is it worth trying to > > pull out and fix? It's a great sounding stereo; I'd love to fix and keep > > it -- but if I find myself scratching my head and wondering which of those > > black things is the audio module, there's no sense in pulling it out. > > > > I'd do a conversion, but it's digital. Which style is it? There are two types for that series and GM in general. One has the speaker/power plugs in three rows, the other in a horseshoe arrangement and the "newer" style has a mini-Motorola antenna plug which you have to adapt to if you have the full-sized plug (it's available at NAPA etc sometimes by special order or you know where to get one anyway)... Chances are a Cadillac had the newer plugs. You can probably fit a '94 Buick AMS in there (it's switchable and should reduce bandwidth switched out but at least you'll have great AM if they don't box it at 5 kHz). Yes I have one as-is. Email me if you want better details. Article: 338306 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "smogchokedLosAngeles" Subject: Re: FA: AKAI CR-83D 8 TRACK STEREO TAPE PLAYER RECORDER EXC condition Date: 28 Jul 2006 03:20:47 -0700 Message-ID: <1154082047.471644.276580@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Rowdy wrote: > Great classic deck, for more info: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110014426951 not a bad deck- I've had 3 of them- problems are: motor usually has to be replaced response curve only rated to 14 khz high end- an Akai 80-81-82 goes higher, so does a Pioneer, JVC, Telex, Sony- i.e. an Akai 83D has a rolled off sounding high end smallish DC motor, won't tolerate a tight 90 min. tape counters on the 83D are over-engineered, most of them no longer work correctly Article: 338307 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "smogchokedLosAngeles" Subject: NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO AMP-400 WATTS/CHANNEL-$275 Date: 28 Jul 2006 03:22:27 -0700 Message-ID: <1154082147.339402.312400@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:11&item=140011963547 NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO POWER AMP FULLY TESTED AND WORKING- NO DEFECTS OUTPUT- 100 WATTS PER CHANNEL INTO 8 OHMS 200 WATTS PER CHANNEL INTO 6 OHMS 400 WATTS PER CHANNEL INTO 4 OHMS THIS AMP IS VERY POWERFUL AND LOUD- IF YOU WANT TO KNOCK CHUNKS OF PLASTER OFF YOUR WALLS, THIS WILL DO IT ! DRIVES 2 SPEAKERS, INPUTS FOR LAB/NORMAL, BRIDGING SWITCH, SOFT CLIPPING SWITCH, POWER ON/OFF BUTTON, SOFT CLIPPING LIGHT, CIRCUIT PROTECTION LIGHT READ ABOUT THE FEATURES OF THIS AMP AT THIS SITE http://207.228.230.231/info/NAD_2200.pdf Article: 338308 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" References: Subject: Re: Rocking Tuning Gang Alignment Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 07:02:16 -0400 Assuming you have an output meter connected across the speaker (should be an ANALOG meter like an old VTVM or VOM) and signal generator, adjust the low frequency padder for maximum output. Then move the tuning cap one direction or the other and readjust the padder. If the output increases, CONTINUE to the move the tuning in the same direction until no further increase in output occurs. If output decreases, tune in the OPPOSITE direction. You can do this "by ear" also. Dave "Bob" wrote in message news:FYednQfG1PANHlTZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Can someone explain the alignment procedure that says "...while rocking > tuning gang". > > Exactly how does one do this? > > Thanks. > > Article: 338309 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Rocking Tuning Gang Alignment References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 08:03:41 -0400 This matches the osc to the rf coil for better sensitivity. Ken Dave McClellan wrote: > Assuming you have an output meter connected across the speaker (should be an > ANALOG meter like an old VTVM or VOM) and signal generator, adjust the low > frequency padder for maximum output. Then move the tuning cap one direction > or the other and readjust the padder. If the output increases, CONTINUE to > the move the tuning in the same direction until no further increase in > output occurs. If output decreases, tune in the OPPOSITE direction. You > can do this "by ear" also. > > Dave > > "Bob" wrote in message > news:FYednQfG1PANHlTZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > >>Can someone explain the alignment procedure that says "...while rocking >>tuning gang". >> >>Exactly how does one do this? >> >>Thanks. >> >> > > > Article: 338310 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Way OT but of possible interest here. References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:43:02 GMT Tom Adkins wrote: > My son just bought a Robo-Sapien V.2. http://www.hobbytron.com/V2RobosapienRobotWowWee.html Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 338311 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Bell Labs telecom history site References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:46:44 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > Interesting. Why not use something that's designed to radiate, > like a long wire? Too hard to match? Matching was it's biggest bonus. Several miles of coax, multiple runs and such. Using power splitters to branch, and terminating each end with a 50 ohm load. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 338312 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: Rocking Tuning Gang Alignment Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:52:49 GMT Additional comment: You may think that you are putting the dial indicator out of sync with the dial scale. Ignore the feeling to pull back and re-align the indicator to the dial scale. It should come back in with additional alignment steps. Paul. "Dave McClellan" wrote in message news:w9myg.5754$db.1899@fe03.lga... > Assuming you have an output meter connected across the speaker (should be > an > ANALOG meter like an old VTVM or VOM) and signal generator, adjust the low > frequency padder for maximum output. Then move the tuning cap one > direction > or the other and readjust the padder. If the output increases, CONTINUE > to > the move the tuning in the same direction until no further increase in > output occurs. If output decreases, tune in the OPPOSITE direction. You > can do this "by ear" also. > > Dave > > "Bob" wrote in message > news:FYednQfG1PANHlTZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Can someone explain the alignment procedure that says "...while rocking >> tuning gang". >> >> Exactly how does one do this? >> >> Thanks. >> >> > > Article: 338313 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: radio@bill-collins.net Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question Date: 28 Jul 2006 06:24:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1154093051.105068.257900@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: Gary Tayman wrote: > The stereo in my car has started to act up... www.crutchfield.com might be able to give you info on removing the radio. (they certainly will if you buy a new one from them) A junkyard might have a working radio or at least one for parts. Fixing newer stuff is mostly looking for bad connections and/or swaping boards. Article: 338314 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "pmitchel@email.unc.edu" Subject: Re: Fisher 800C tube receiver/amplifier repair question Date: 28 Jul 2006 06:56:34 -0700 Message-ID: <1154094994.563754.279770@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1153491537.047674.118300@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Thanks for the various repsonses, folks. FTR, Audio Advice won't touch the unit (they are a great shop though) and I wasn't about to play around with it. An off-list reply sent me in the direction of Michael Hamilton Jr., a thoroughly enjoyable, competent young man who cleaned the unit, tested every tube (they all worked) and removed the bad cable which was shorting out the chasis, causing the loss of signal in stereo mode (he also replaced a set of paper capiciters for safety sake, though they were still working and there was no hum in the machine). He charged me next to nothing for the labor and parts, and turned it all around in one day. A true winner, this young man (and he's all of 7 miles from our house). Article: 338315 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO AMP-400 WATTS/CHANNEL-$275 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 07:55:16 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154082147.339402.312400@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 28 Jul 2006 03:22:27 -0700, Charlie Nudo of Drums, PA masquerading as "smogchokedLosAngeles" spammed: >http://cgi.ebay Noodles..."bumping" your spam posts only makes things worse for you. Double the spam complaints! I love it...you'll be gone sooner! Article: 338316 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Raymond Koonce Subject: WTB - Arcturus PZ Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 10:20:19 -0500 Subject says it. Please reply via email with price/condition. Thanks!! Raymond Article: 338317 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "duty-honor-country" Subject: Re: NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO AMP-400 WATTS/CHANNEL-$275 Date: 28 Jul 2006 08:24:31 -0700 Message-ID: <1154100271.505180.130470@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> smogchokedLosAngeles wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:11&item=140011963547 > > NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO POWER AMP > > FULLY TESTED AND WORKING- NO DEFECTS > > OUTPUT- 100 WATTS PER CHANNEL INTO 8 OHMS > > 200 WATTS PER CHANNEL INTO 6 OHMS > > 400 WATTS PER CHANNEL INTO 4 OHMS > > THIS AMP IS VERY POWERFUL AND LOUD- IF YOU WANT TO KNOCK CHUNKS OF > PLASTER OFF YOUR WALLS, THIS WILL DO IT ! > > DRIVES 2 SPEAKERS, INPUTS FOR LAB/NORMAL, BRIDGING SWITCH, SOFT > CLIPPING SWITCH, POWER ON/OFF BUTTON, SOFT CLIPPING LIGHT, CIRCUIT > PROTECTION LIGHT > > READ ABOUT THE FEATURES OF THIS AMP AT THIS SITE > > http://207.228.230.231/info/NAD_2200.pdf http://i7.tinypic.com/21aa1ip.gif and beware this ugly bastard, picture of DeserTBob above link Article: 338318 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:52:56 -0400 Gary, see binaries, this is what you need sitting on the front seat of that Cadallac, a B-52 by General Electric. It has a vibrator supply built in for car use, and a regular ac line supply for home use. Very portable, only 25 pounds. You may have to do a 'conversion' on your center island though. Ken Gary Tayman wrote: > This is pretty close to OT, except that possibly somebody here may be > familiar. > > Yes, I work on car radios, but typically nothing newer than mid-1960's, and > AM only. > > The stereo in my car has started to act up. It plays fine, if you like > listening to the left channel only. The right channel is there, but you > need to move the balance way over and turn the volume up. It's this way for > AM and FM, mono and stereo -- I haven't yet tried a tape. > > This car is a 1993 Sedan De Ville -- getting old, but certainly not in the > antique department. It's the stock stereo with "Symphony Sound" written on > it -- as opposed to the Bose or other options. > > The dilemma is this: does anybody know what's inside this thing? Just like > the rest of the car, I'm not so sure I want to work on anything that's less > than 40 years old. I know some Cadillacs have stereos with amps by each > speaker -- don't know if this is one of them. I also don't know if it has > conventional electronics inside, or if it's 95% dedicated IC's that I'll > never find replacements for. Plus I don't know how to get it out of the > car -- so I'm asking if anyone here is familiar -- is it worth trying to > pull out and fix? It's a great sounding stereo; I'd love to fix and keep > it -- but if I find myself scratching my head and wondering which of those > black things is the audio module, there's no sense in pulling it out. > > I'd do a conversion, but it's digital. > Article: 338319 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: In need of replacement dial glass Message-ID: <2tqyg.4410$c11.3571@trnddc08> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:56:46 GMT Will the REAL dial maker, please STAND UP! It seems lately there have been a lot of inquiries about dials, dial covers, and dial glass. Bill Turner used to make dial covers but doesn't anymore. Rock-Sea used to make dials, but I haven't heard from him in awhile and I believe someone said he's sold out to someone. Personally I need a dial cover for a Philco, and I could use one for a Crosley. Bill Turner has offered me the stuff to do it with -- I might take him up on it, but I'm not so sure I want to become the "dial king" in the same way Mark is with pots. But then, is there anyone out there who is stepping up to the plate? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Mike Wagner" wrote in message news:GZayg.3475$5H.1049@dukeread06... > Hello all, > > I just acquired a Scott 312C tuner which is in great shape except for the > dial. The paint on the dial glass has deteriorated and is flaking off. I > am unable to even clean the glass as all the paint would be removed. Even > dry cleaning it would damage it. > > Does anyone know of anyone that could cut me a new piece of glass and > recreate my Scott's dial on the new glass? I will be able to provide > detailed pictures of the dial if needed. > > Thanks much for the help!, > > ESDI Article: 338320 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:59:35 GMT If I wanted to go that route, I'd take along my Zenith TO. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Ken" wrote in message news:zpqyg.3717$5H.3210@dukeread06... > Gary, see binaries, this is what you need sitting on the front seat of > that Cadallac, a B-52 by General Electric. It has a vibrator supply built > in for car use, and a regular ac line supply for home use. Very portable, > only 25 pounds. You may have to do a 'conversion' on your center island > though. Ken > > Gary Tayman wrote: >> This is pretty close to OT, except that possibly somebody here may be >> familiar. >> >> Yes, I work on car radios, but typically nothing newer than mid-1960's, >> and AM only. >> >> The stereo in my car has started to act up. It plays fine, if you like >> listening to the left channel only. The right channel is there, but you >> need to move the balance way over and turn the volume up. It's this way >> for AM and FM, mono and stereo -- I haven't yet tried a tape. >> >> This car is a 1993 Sedan De Ville -- getting old, but certainly not in >> the antique department. It's the stock stereo with "Symphony Sound" >> written on it -- as opposed to the Bose or other options. >> >> The dilemma is this: does anybody know what's inside this thing? Just >> like the rest of the car, I'm not so sure I want to work on anything >> that's less than 40 years old. I know some Cadillacs have stereos with >> amps by each speaker -- don't know if this is one of them. I also don't >> know if it has conventional electronics inside, or if it's 95% dedicated >> IC's that I'll never find replacements for. Plus I don't know how to get >> it out of the car -- so I'm asking if anyone here is familiar -- is it >> worth trying to pull out and fix? It's a great sounding stereo; I'd love >> to fix and keep it -- but if I find myself scratching my head and >> wondering which of those black things is the audio module, there's no >> sense in pulling it out. >> >> I'd do a conversion, but it's digital. >> > Article: 338321 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: In need of replacement dial glass From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <2tqyg.4410$c11.3571@trnddc08> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:38:55 GMT In article <2tqyg.4410$c11.3571@trnddc08>, caradio@verizon.net says... > > >Will the REAL dial maker, please STAND UP! > >Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical John Bachman P. O. Box 1200, Amherst, NH 03031 100 Merrimack Road, Amherst, NH 03031 Dial Covers John k9uwa Article: 338322 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Carroll Senn" Subject: CQ Paula Message-ID: <%Hmyg.12454$4c7.1711@tornado.southeast.rr.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:39:39 GMT I was cleaning up some old stored NG files and came across a post from Paula Wood in Texas, aka LILMOUSE. Anyone hear from her lately or know anything of her whereabouts? -- Carroll Senn Columbia, SC Article: 338323 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <%Hmyg.12454$4c7.1711@tornado.southeast.rr.com> Subject: Re: CQ Paula Message-ID: <_9syg.12340$PN4.6961@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:52:58 GMT "Carroll Senn" wrote in message news:%Hmyg.12454$4c7.1711@tornado.southeast.rr.com... > > I was cleaning up some old stored NG files and came across a post from Paula Wood > in Texas, aka LILMOUSE. Anyone hear from her lately or know anything of her > whereabouts? > > > -- > Carroll Senn > Columbia, SC > Disappeared in 2002. http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=nlysdhYAAAABGSMYwogiJABPd-Losp8ET89itVsIzhJdPtZq9hZGSQ&hl=en Article: 338324 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <2tqyg.4410$c11.3571@trnddc08> Subject: Re: In need of replacement dial glass Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:03:39 -0700 Message-ID: Radio Daze makes glass dial scales. They also bought out Rock Sea's entire product line of plastic dial scales and decals. The current catalog says they will be producing the Rock Sea stuff in September 2006. http://www.radiodaze.com/ Regards, Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 338325 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim" Subject: Re: Minervia Morale receiver and grid bias Date: 28 Jul 2006 11:17:35 -0700 Message-ID: <1154110655.544467.182880@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154059201.764829.312610@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> nesesu wrote: > Jim, I restored a Minerva 'Tropicmaster', and there were several > versions with slight diffeences. It could have 2 50L6 in parallel or 2 > 25L6 in series, but in either case the filament string is 300mA. > The 29 ohm is often blasted to oblivion since the set is an 'almost hot > chassis' with only the 29 ohms between line and chassis and you have to > open a little door to access the antenna and ground terminals, exposing > the very live chassis. One slip with the ground wire [if the set is > plugged in] and kapoof, one vanished composition resistor!! > Indeed the pilot lamp should be across the 40 ohm. > As usual with an AA5 type circuit, it is a trade off about grounding. > The ideal is to reconnect the power switch into the hot lead and > connect the polarized pin to chassis[well, to the up side of the 27 > ohm] but that entails some rewiring and non-authentic circuit. > On mine I had some problems with instability, and had to carefully > select the ground points for the bypass capacitors. Being in the case > helped a lot, but be SURE the insulating blocks are all correctly > positiond and there are no 'too long' screws that might poke through an > insulator block!!! > Nice performing set once it is working properly! > > Neil S. > Thanks for the response. There is a blackened area under the chassis where the 29 ohm resistor may have been. Yes, the 25L6's are in series but as I mentioned the early schematic shows them as 50L6's in series. I presume a #47 (150 ma) dial light is suitable for the dial light. I always wire the ac switch in series with the hot lead when ever I replace a power lead, AC-DC set or transformer set. Safety before blind compliance with the schematic. I'd really like to add a builtin isolation transformer to this set. The shade tree tech. replaced the 40 Uf filter caps with 20 uf caps and did a few other horrors.So it will be a while geting this thing running. All the resistors I checked are out of spec. and a couple of caps are blown (all will be repplaced). The case is totally rust covered, but it did come with the original knobs so it's not a total waste. Just a non trivial project. It's interesting that it appears to have a tuned RF stage and a tuned osc. (Two section tuning cap) and an untumed mixer. How's the image rejection on yours? Article: 338326 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "duty-honor-country" Subject: Re: NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO AMP-400 WATTS/CHANNEL-$275 Date: 28 Jul 2006 11:34:27 -0700 Message-ID: <1154111667.046096.291590@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> duty-honor-country wrote: > smogchokedLosAngeles wrote: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:11&item=140011963547 > > > > NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO POWER AMP > > > > FULLY TESTED AND WORKING- NO DEFECTS > > > > OUTPUT- 100 WATTS PER CHANNEL INTO 8 OHMS > > > > 200 WATTS PER CHANNEL INTO 6 OHMS > > > > 400 WATTS PER CHANNEL INTO 4 OHMS > > > > THIS AMP IS VERY POWERFUL AND LOUD- IF YOU WANT TO KNOCK CHUNKS OF > > PLASTER OFF YOUR WALLS, THIS WILL DO IT ! > > > > DRIVES 2 SPEAKERS, INPUTS FOR LAB/NORMAL, BRIDGING SWITCH, SOFT > > CLIPPING SWITCH, POWER ON/OFF BUTTON, SOFT CLIPPING LIGHT, CIRCUIT > > PROTECTION LIGHT > > > > READ ABOUT THE FEATURES OF THIS AMP AT THIS SITE > > > > http://207.228.230.231/info/NAD_2200.pdf > > http://i7.tinypic.com/21aa1ip.gif > > and beware this ugly bastard, picture of DeserTBob above link http://i7.tinypic.com/21aa1ip.gif If I had a dog that had a face like that, I'd paint his ass and teach him how to walk backwards ! Article: 338327 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Bell Labs telecom history site References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:32:58 GMT > > The basic concept. a 50% aluminized mylar foil shield on the > cable, rather than a full circumference. It still looked like > a 50 ohm coax. But radiated nicely off the unshileded side. > > Why would you want something like that you ask? Simple, mines. > No more jack boxes and headsets. Just walkie talkies and a string > of coax down the tunnel roof. > Sometimes this is used for college radio. String the leaky coax thru the dorms, and students tune the station on in their FM stereo sets. Article: 338328 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: bandbroad@gmail.com Subject: RFID Transmitters,RFID and Environmental Issues, Wal-Mart and RFID: A Case Study Date: 28 Jul 2006 12:45:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1154115953.407617.284610@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> RFID Technology and Architecture, RFID Standards,RFID Applications, RFID Security, Impact of RFID Tags on Recycling, Environmental Challenges of RFID, RFID Tags: Advantages and Limitations, http://flying-rugs.com/rfid-tutorial/ Article: 338329 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: philco 37-116 sighting on TV Date: 28 Jul 2006 12:53:41 -0700 Message-ID: <1154116421.489277.306310@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153967656.142056.157930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> jim menning wrote: > Echo? i just couldn't bear to look at it. Article: 338330 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Way OT but of possible interest here. Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:47:31 -0600 Message-ID: <25776-44CA85F3-23@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> References: Havent seen one but after reading the website i believe i have seen the 2003 smaller model at work and played with a few of them to see if they worked They were amusing but still very limited toylike . The V2 model is something i would like to see . Neet-o ! Article: 338331 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Radio Shack Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:58:41 -0600 Message-ID: <25775-44CA8891-109@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> References: The owner of this parts house is an electronics designer on the computer He was designing and assembling test station units for Ford auto trainees . He supplies the area with industrial parts and microwave repair along with Fluke service & sales . For some reason he still stocks consumer electronics repair components . Last time i bought some truntable and 8 track belts there . I saw a phono needle display in there too . Lots of the high quality `Kline` tools . Mylar capacitors if your in a pinch at 50c each . And filter capacitors . huge rack of shrink tubing . He`s getting older now & walks with a cane so who knows what will become of it after he`s gone . No cell phones in the place Article: 338332 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Radio Shack Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:00:39 -0600 Message-ID: <25775-44CA8907-110@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> References: <1154056320.576981.83740@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Ken G. wrote to me finally: The chassis is out of a zenith t.o. radio missing all the tubes and a bad filter . You never give up. UMMM you lost me there ? you asked days ago in another thread if i had ``A CHASSIS`` And i do . Article: 338333 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Should I go get a free Philco console radio? Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:09:45 -0600 Message-ID: <25775-44CA8B29-111@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> References: <1153969594.097836.39040@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> should jump on this? Not in front of the guy who gives it to you he might get upset at all the cleanup . You dont have to replace every capacitor in the radio because 4 or 5 or .. people said to . Its your choice . Some of my Phicos ( and other ) work just fine with just a filter replacement . Article: 338334 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Radio Shack Date: 28 Jul 2006 15:57:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1154127430.374749.325110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1154056320.576981.83740@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Ken G. wrote: > Ken G. wrote to me finally: > The chassis is out of a zenith t.o. radio missing all the tubes and a > bad filter . > You never give up. > > UMMM you lost me there ? you asked days ago in another thread if i had > > ``A CHASSIS`` > > And i do . That's true but retarded. Article: 338335 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Way OT but of possible interest here. Date: 28 Jul 2006 16:00:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1154127621.850716.147250@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Ken G. wrote: > Havent seen one but after reading the website i believe i have seen the > 2003 smaller model at work and played with a few of them to see if they > worked They were amusing but still very limited toylike . The V2 model > is something i would like to see . Neet-o ! If it doesn't whisper sweetly in your ear in the morning about how bad you smell, go to the bathroom and get put together, it ain't for me. Article: 338336 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Radio Shack From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1154056320.576981.83740@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154127430.374749.325110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:10:08 GMT In article <1154127430.374749.325110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, manyrumours@lycos.com says... > > > > >That's true but retarded. > Steven quit being a pest and go read your email John Article: 338337 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO AMP-400 WATTS/CHANNEL-$275 Date: 28 Jul 2006 16:12:04 -0700 Message-ID: <1154128324.617297.188130@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> duty-honor-country wrote: > duty-honor-country wrote: > > smogchokedLosAngeles wrote: All sorts of shit, so? I have a Pioneer SA-1040 to fix, 100 wpc and an SX-6000 ~35 wpc with a channel to fix I have one SX-1500T that works and one SX-D7000 that also works, 46 wpc and 120 wpc. I want 4 discrete and 2 processed channels. I don't want the same power running through all 6 (8?) channels with some Haflered crap and expecially NAD. My other amps are Sansui, JVC CD-4 Quad and Harman Kardon (my workshop set is 12 wpc and a fun little 230A at that). I'l also bet you spammed more than 5 groups and I'm gonna mass-acree me a few. When are you and Bob going to be the very first gay divorcees in the same brain? Article: 338338 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "smogchokedLosAngeles" Subject: Re: NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO AMP-400 WATTS/CHANNEL-$275 Date: 28 Jul 2006 16:20:40 -0700 Message-ID: <1154128840.152975.262290@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > duty-honor-country wrote: > > duty-honor-country wrote: > > > smogchokedLosAngeles wrote: > > All sorts of shit, so? > > I have a Pioneer SA-1040 to fix, 100 wpc > and an SX-6000 ~35 wpc with a channel to fix > I have one SX-1500T that works and one SX-D7000 that also works, 46 wpc > and 120 wpc. > > I want 4 discrete and 2 processed channels. I don't want the same power > running through all 6 (8?) channels with some Haflered crap and > expecially NAD. My other amps are Sansui, JVC CD-4 Quad and Harman > Kardon (my workshop set is 12 wpc and a fun little 230A at that). I'l > also bet you spammed more than 5 groups and I'm gonna mass-acree me a > few. > > When are you and Bob going to be the very first gay divorcees in the > same brain? you make a brave noise from behind your computer screen- I'd wager you'd sing a different tune, in person like this "wimper...." Article: 338339 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Radio Shack Date: 28 Jul 2006 16:27:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1154129241.506610.208470@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1154056320.576981.83740@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > In article <1154127430.374749.325110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, > manyrumours@lycos.com says... > > > > > > > > > >That's true but retarded. > > > > Steven quit being a pest and go read your email > > John What's in it anyway? I'm winning 5 items for me and one for my boss. Japan wants me to date their women (I can't read Japanese). Good Christian Nigerian women beg me to accept their millions and I get offers for foreign jobs everyday. Nothing new in my email. Article: 338340 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44CA9D4D.26081FCD@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO AMP-400 WATTS/CHANNEL-$275 References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:28:07 GMT smogchokedLosAngeles wrote: > > Steven wrote: > > duty-honor-country wrote: > > > duty-honor-country wrote: > > > > smogchokedLosAngeles wrote: > > > > All sorts of shit, so? > > > > I have a Pioneer SA-1040 to fix, 100 wpc > > and an SX-6000 ~35 wpc with a channel to fix > > I have one SX-1500T that works and one SX-D7000 that also works, 46 wpc > > and 120 wpc. > > > > I want 4 discrete and 2 processed channels. I don't want the same power > > running through all 6 (8?) channels with some Haflered crap and > > expecially NAD. My other amps are Sansui, JVC CD-4 Quad and Harman > > Kardon (my workshop set is 12 wpc and a fun little 230A at that). I'l > > also bet you spammed more than 5 groups and I'm gonna mass-acree me a > > few. > > > > When are you and Bob going to be the very first gay divorcees in the > > same brain? > > you make a brave noise from behind your computer screen- > > I'd wager you'd sing a different tune, in person > > like this > > "wimper...." Be sure to tune in at the same time next week for a brand new episode of "Troll vs Troll"! -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida From babushka{AT}dom{DOT}com Sat Jul 29 12:03:39 EDT 2006 Article: 338341 of rec.antiques.radio+phono NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:34:32 -0500 From: "Bob" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: Subject: Re: Rocking Tuning Gang Alignment Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:34:30 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response Message-ID: <6emdnZ8CrbmVAlfZnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com> Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.162.7.235 X-Trace: sv3-AAMPHo/D6tAe6cxu5APGWm/oGFsjNQyarkrAT4EkAiZSR0PQriN0iu7NyuqyKPBWtLvlw8b3fF6CFTl!hbqmO/83BuWxAS8OnnrRE4u4CICeUp4IdZ70euqkqpAjlSPKze2FDZ/bUphmQ8bkWI5cr63rvTVV!RFxEwcY= X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:338341 "Bob" wrote in message news:FYednQfG1PANHlTZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Can someone explain the alignment procedure that says "...while rocking > tuning gang". > > Exactly how does one do this? > > Thanks. > > Thanks, everyone, for all the help. I'll try this alignment all over again and hopefully things will turn out with better results. Bob From babushka{AT}dom{DOT}com Sat Jul 29 12:03:39 EDT 2006 Article: 338342 of rec.antiques.radio+phono NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:35:01 -0500 From: "Bob" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: Subject: Re: Rocking Tuning Gang Alignment Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:34:59 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: Lines: 34 NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.162.7.235 X-Trace: sv3-xX5nJpGgTUn3gg65ewTHTwoJKJ19bYkhIFT7jVBSGzubmtmgtCGelzP4RC2o5DLK92cexFyB/XboQJW!8X1REoAZ1vgeSAaNbBubaFPMrgs6F4FJEy6m7POH19FTiZPRcetyiFMKSNOny6W/2YX4Bqpdhwjb!wPyICR8= X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:338342 "Dave McClellan" wrote in message news:w9myg.5754$db.1899@fe03.lga... > Assuming you have an output meter connected across the speaker (should be > an > ANALOG meter like an old VTVM or VOM) and signal generator, adjust the low > frequency padder for maximum output. Then move the tuning cap one > direction > or the other and readjust the padder. If the output increases, CONTINUE > to > the move the tuning in the same direction until no further increase in > output occurs. If output decreases, tune in the OPPOSITE direction. You > can do this "by ear" also. > > Dave > > "Bob" wrote in message > news:FYednQfG1PANHlTZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Can someone explain the alignment procedure that says "...while rocking >> tuning gang". >> >> Exactly how does one do this? >> >> Thanks. >> >> > > Why should an ANALOG meter work better than a DIGITAL meter? Article: 338343 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1154115953.407617.284610@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: OT: Re: RFID Transmitters,RFID and Environmental Issues, Wal-Mart and RFID: A Case Study Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:35:57 -0700 Message-ID: Uh . . . none of my antique radios and phonographs speak RFID. Please don't SPAM this group with any more off-topic content. You can read the newsgroup FAQ (including charter) at http://www.xs4all.nl/~tgale/oradio/ . Regards, Phil Nelson Article: 338344 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: vresiaxs@email.adr Subject: STOP what you’re doing - It doesn’t work! SUR4 Message-ID: <9mxyg.92832$sz1.15190@newsfe6-gui.ntli.net> Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:47:17 GMT Always staying on the cutting edge of the latest trends and effective advertising methods, Kiosk offers only the best and time worthy promotional tools. If we don't have it, you don't need it! *Supersponder *Prospecting system *Master Profit system *Promotional pages *Complete resell rights for our library of proprietary products *Ad tracking *Membership to our safelist franchise *Super FFA system *Group Networking Click below to find out what has the super-affiliates quaking in their boots http://tinyurl.com/pzkxe Thank you for your time, and we wish you a profitable 2006! Regards, Clive Foster Please visit the following site, for the best promotional and marketing idea we have seen this year: http://tinyurl.com/pzkxe --- Sacemaxel gepoxuna hidit cecono fewis fisotemayut yosoxavon tasi . Article: 338345 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Radio Shack Date: 28 Jul 2006 16:48:15 -0700 Message-ID: <1154130495.519546.87840@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1154056320.576981.83740@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > > In article <1154127430.374749.325110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, > > manyrumours@lycos.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >That's true but retarded. > > > > > > > Steven quit being a pest and go read your email > > > > John > > What's in it anyway? I'm winning 5 items for me and one for my boss. > Japan wants me to date their women (I can't read Japanese). Good > Christian Nigerian women beg me to accept their millions and I get > offers for foreign jobs everyday. > > Nothing new in my email. Okay, I asked. Thank you for helping me out. Did I need the badge underneath the tuning knob for this cabinet? Article: 338346 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "James F. Mayer" References: <1154064861.395469.13100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <_-OdnSKlULEyOlTZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Way OT but of possible interest here. Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:53:03 GMT "Tom Adkins" wrote in message news:_-OdnSKlULEyOlTZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > Steven wrote: >> Tom Adkins wrote: >> >>>Nothing to do with antique radio so spank me soundly if necessary. Lots >>>of follks >>>here are also into modern electronics and I'm not. So here goes: >>> My son just bought a Robo-Sapien V.2. Has anyone seen this thing?? It's >>> amazing. >>> >>> Ok. it can walk, no big deal. It can talk. Well yea the speech is >>> random at times, >>>but the speech is pretty directed when necessary. It can "learn" from >>>it's >>>environment. It gets "bored" without input and will go off on tangental >>>trips >>>exploring the house. It can "learn" it's environment. It got "focused" on >>>the cat >>>yesterday. The cat would only move a foot or so and the "robot" seemed >>>to "chase" it. >>>It can be taught speech, so I was thinking "here kitty, kitty" of >>>course. >>> It's pre programmed to interact with humans and aside from it's loud >>> "whoa" startle >>>response the dude is really human like. It's pretty cool to say the >>>least. >>> >>> Does anyone here have one that can offer some input? This thing is >>> almost scary, as >>>I grew up watching The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits. I'm not sure >>>what to think >>>about this battery operated (toy??person??thing??) >>> He has come to "rest" on my work bench, kind of like his home base. I >>> don't mind >>>sharing space, I just don't want him taking over and doing a better job >>>at fixing >>>radios. :) >> >> >> Make it run for parts and coffee. >> > > I was thinking strippers and booze... I wouldn't think it would bring back the booze but the strippers, the nose pliers, crimpers and soldering iron maybe. Watch out that it doesn't start making eyes at your o'scope, signal generator or multimeter. You could be in real trouble then. Article: 338347 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO AMP-400 WATTS/CHANNEL-$275 Date: 28 Jul 2006 16:55:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1154130900.882787.20280@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Be sure to tune in at the same time next week for a brand new episode > of "Troll vs Troll"! What the fuck is a troll? They're your friends? LOLOL Article: 338348 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Rocking Tuning Gang Alignment Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 08:56:19 +0900 Message-ID: References: > Why should an ANALOG meter work better than a DIGITAL meter? Because an analog meter is linear, and you can see very small changes in voltage that are not visible on a digital meter. The resolution on a digital meter is not good enough to get an accurate peak. Article: 338349 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Way OT but of possible interest here. Date: 28 Jul 2006 16:57:40 -0700 Message-ID: <1154131060.033991.59550@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: James F. Mayer wrote: > "Tom Adkins" wrote in message > news:_-OdnSKlULEyOlTZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Steven wrote: > >> Tom Adkins wrote: > >> > >>>Nothing to do with antique radio so spank me soundly if necessary. Lots > >>>of follks > >>>here are also into modern electronics and I'm not. So here goes: > >>> My son just bought a Robo-Sapien V.2. Has anyone seen this thing?? It's > >>> amazing. > >>> > >>> Ok. it can walk, no big deal. It can talk. Well yea the speech is > >>> random at times, > >>>but the speech is pretty directed when necessary. It can "learn" from > >>>it's > >>>environment. It gets "bored" without input and will go off on tangental > >>>trips > >>>exploring the house. It can "learn" it's environment. It got "focused" on > >>>the cat > >>>yesterday. The cat would only move a foot or so and the "robot" seemed > >>>to "chase" it. > >>>It can be taught speech, so I was thinking "here kitty, kitty" of > >>>course. > >>> It's pre programmed to interact with humans and aside from it's loud > >>> "whoa" startle > >>>response the dude is really human like. It's pretty cool to say the > >>>least. > >>> > >>> Does anyone here have one that can offer some input? This thing is > >>> almost scary, as > >>>I grew up watching The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits. I'm not sure > >>>what to think > >>>about this battery operated (toy??person??thing??) > >>> He has come to "rest" on my work bench, kind of like his home base. I > >>> don't mind > >>>sharing space, I just don't want him taking over and doing a better job > >>>at fixing > >>>radios. :) > >> > >> > >> Make it run for parts and coffee. > >> > > > > I was thinking strippers and booze... > > > I wouldn't think it would bring back the booze but the strippers, the > nose pliers, crimpers and soldering iron maybe. Watch out that it doesn't > start making eyes at your o'scope, signal generator or multimeter. You > could be in real trouble then. It might be abusive, but your DVD player will never tell you. Article: 338350 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:57:09 -0500 Message-ID: <7472-44CAA455-38@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> I LISTED MY RIDERS VOLUMES 1-23 FOR $400, I CAN'T USE THEM SINCE MY STROKE SO I HAVE LOWERED THE PRICE TO $300. I CAN HAVE A FRIEND TAKE THEN TO THE LOCAL UPS FOR PACKING AND SHIPPING. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 338351 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Re: RFID Transmitters,RFID and Environmental Issues, Wal-Mart and RFID: A Case Study Date: 28 Jul 2006 17:05:20 -0700 Message-ID: <1154131520.310586.181760@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1154115953.407617.284610@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Phil Nelson wrote: > Uh . . . none of my antique radios and phonographs speak RFID. > > Please don't SPAM this group with any more off-topic content. > > You can read the newsgroup FAQ (including charter) at > http://www.xs4all.nl/~tgale/oradio/ . > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson Phil, This poster has maybe 90 posts, 60-70% of them this post in various names and the other is multi-posted too. This is the usual whack job that won't come back, especially as it took them a number of days to get here, as if they were picking and choosing. We had radio in the group title yet again. They may be getting a lot of flak or just covering as the posting name has changed at least one (still the same provider). Perhaps you can pursue that angle. Thanks, Steven (not SPAM just my lovable PITA self, as always) Article: 338352 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154082147.339402.312400@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154100271.505180.130470@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1154111667.046096.291590@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154128324.617297.188130@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154128840.152975.262290@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO AMP-400 WATTS/CHANNEL-$275 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:09:48 GMT "smogchokedLosAngeles" wrote in message news:1154128840.152975.262290@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > >> >> When are you and Bob going to be the very first gay divorcees in the >> same brain? > > > you make a brave noise from behind your computer screen- > > I'd wager you'd sing a different tune, in person > > like this > > "wimper...." > More like Ned Beatty bent over a log. jim menning Article: 338353 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question Date: 28 Jul 2006 17:10:36 -0700 Message-ID: <1154131836.394666.133950@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: radio@bill-collins.net wrote: > Gary Tayman wrote: > > The stereo in my car has started to act up... > > www.crutchfield.com might be able to give you info on removing the > radio. (they certainly will if you buy a new one from them) > > A junkyard might have a working radio or at least one for parts. > Fixing newer stuff is mostly looking for bad connections and/or swaping > boards. That's what I did. If not, OEM rebuilt can also be had at www.mnrelectronics.com I think. That's about all they do. Article: 338354 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <7472-44CAA455-38@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:12:20 GMT "Bill Turner" wrote in message news:7472-44CAA455-38@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net... > > I LISTED MY RIDERS VOLUMES 1-23 FOR $400, I CAN'T USE THEM SINCE MY > STROKE SO I HAVE LOWERED THE PRICE TO $300. I CAN HAVE A FRIEND TAKE > THEN TO THE LOCAL UPS FOR PACKING AND SHIPPING. > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. > > > > Bill, will you be at Bolingbrook next week? I would think you'd find a buyer there easily at that price. jim menning Article: 338355 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO AMP-400 WATTS/CHANNEL-$275 Date: 28 Jul 2006 17:14:26 -0700 Message-ID: <1154132066.891066.154450@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> jim menning wrote: > "smogchokedLosAngeles" wrote in message > news:1154128840.152975.262290@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > >> > >> When are you and Bob going to be the very first gay divorcees in the > >> same brain? > > > > > > you make a brave noise from behind your computer screen- > > > > I'd wager you'd sing a different tune, in person > > > > like this > > > > "wimper...." > > > > More like Ned Beatty bent over a log. > > jim menning Is he still alive? Who looks like him, Bob, Nudo or do both of them resemble Twoface from Batman? Article: 338356 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: Rocking Tuning Gang Alignment Date: 29 Jul 2006 00:30:20 GMT Message-ID: References: "Bob" (babushka{AT}dom{DOT}com) writes: > "Dave McClellan" wrote in message > news:w9myg.5754$db.1899@fe03.lga... >> Assuming you have an output meter connected across the speaker (should be >> an >> ANALOG meter like an old VTVM or VOM) and signal generator, adjust the low >> frequency padder for maximum output. Then move the tuning cap one >> direction >> or the other and readjust the padder. If the output increases, CONTINUE >> to >> the move the tuning in the same direction until no further increase in >> output occurs. If output decreases, tune in the OPPOSITE direction. You >> can do this "by ear" also. >> >> Dave >> >> "Bob" wrote in message >> news:FYednQfG1PANHlTZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> Can someone explain the alignment procedure that says "...while rocking >>> tuning gang". >>> >>> Exactly how does one do this? >>> >>> Thanks. >>> >>> >> >> > > > Why should an ANALOG meter work better than a DIGITAL meter? > Because you're half past the right point when the digital meter is updated to reflect the state of the tuning level a while ago. In other words, since the meter is taking time to do its job, there is a backlash in your tuning efforts. You can't really get it right when there is that sluggishness. An analog meter reflects the changes pretty much instantaneously, so you see the peak and know immediately. Michael Article: 338357 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 01:01:29 GMT Hi! > The dilemma is this: does anybody know what's inside this thing? There's some integration, but most of the parts should be fairly standard, though many may be surface mount. Most of the ones that have an onboard amplifier use some sort of an integrated device with all the functions you need for an audio power amp in one package. In most cases you will see it bolted to the radio frame for heat sinking purposes. I would think the "Symphony Sound" radio could be done either way...so you'll just have to pull it out and see. I've never worked on one, but I have worked with several other GM radios from that era. Most are fairly straightforward to remove--pull the trim off the dash (it unscrews in nearly all cases) and then you can see the radio mounting bolts on the sides of the set. Take them out, pull the radio toward you and there you go. The connector is usually a single block affair that plugs into a socket at the back. By far and away the most common problems I've heard of with these radios are cracked solder joints (obvious when you think about it!), bad capacitors, failed belts (probably due to heat), gummed up grease and burned out bulbs. Despite the heat and abusive conditions, actual electronic failures are really pretty uncommon in my experience. If you do get it fixed, you might find the following trick useful! http://greyghost.dyndns.org/delco/ William Article: 338358 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 01:56:48 GMT The seven presets? Yes, I've known about them for years. Just about all the Delco radios with four electronic preset buttons have this, including mine. I found out about it years ago when I accidentally hit two buttons at once in my Firebird. I noticed when I did this, the tuner went to something like 88.1. So out of curiosity I tried to set a station with both buttons depressed -- and it took it! Playing around I found that there were three more settings -- however if I hit buttons 1 and 3 together it doesn't work -- the buttons have to be next to each other. Later when I bought this Cadillac, I actually went through the operating manual. This car has a lot of "toys", not the least of which is a sensor that determines what direction the sun is shining, and automatically adjusts the A/C outlets side to side, and front and rear, to compensate. Of course there's the speed sensitive steering, speed sensitive struts, auto day/night mirror, auto time-delay headlights, motorized trunk release, and on and on it goes. The owner's manual is enough in itself, with built-in calculator. Yes, buy a Cadillac, get a free calculator! Scattered throughout the pages of the manual are photos and descriptions of classic Cadillacs, which are very interesting. Anyway, when it gets to the stereo, it indeed states that you can set up to 7 presets on this radio for AM, and another 7 for FM, using the two-button technique. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "William R. Walsh" wrote in message news:Jryyg.862848$084.639305@attbi_s22... > Hi! > >> The dilemma is this: does anybody know what's inside this thing? > > There's some integration, but most of the parts should be fairly standard, > though many may be surface mount. > > Most of the ones that have an onboard amplifier use some sort of an > integrated device with all the functions you need for an audio power amp > in > one package. In most cases you will see it bolted to the radio frame for > heat sinking purposes. > > I would think the "Symphony Sound" radio could be done either way...so > you'll just have to pull it out and see. I've never worked on one, but I > have worked with several other GM radios from that era. Most are fairly > straightforward to remove--pull the trim off the dash (it unscrews in > nearly > all cases) and then you can see the radio mounting bolts on the sides of > the > set. Take them out, pull the radio toward you and there you go. The > connector is usually a single block affair that plugs into a socket at the > back. > > By far and away the most common problems I've heard of with these radios > are > cracked solder joints (obvious when you think about it!), bad capacitors, > failed belts (probably due to heat), gummed up grease and burned out > bulbs. > Despite the heat and abusive conditions, actual electronic failures are > really pretty uncommon in my experience. > > If you do get it fixed, you might find the following trick useful! > http://greyghost.dyndns.org/delco/ > > William > > Article: 338359 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Engineer" Subject: Re: Rocking Tuning Gang Alignment Date: 28 Jul 2006 19:35:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1154140552.891336.8890@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: Brenda Ann wrote: > > Why should an ANALOG meter work better than a DIGITAL meter? > > > Because an analog meter is linear, and you can see very small changes in > voltage that are not visible on a digital meter. The resolution on a digital > meter is not good enough to get an accurate peak. It's also because the eye is very adept at seeing small analog (needle position) changes. With the digital meter you have to keep thinking if 2.437 volts is greater than 2.473 volts... and if it isn't, was is more or less than the last maximum which you have now forgotten! I've tried using a Fluke DVM on AVC lines because of its very high impedance - seemed to be a good idea. Gave that up! Now I use a beaten up AVO model 8 (20,000 ohms per volt) for that purpose - no problems. Cheers, Roger Article: 338360 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Engineer" Subject: Re: Cheap Philco 70 Date: 28 Jul 2006 19:58:23 -0700 Message-ID: <1154141903.841687.106200@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154006576.465349.279840@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Phil Nelson wrote: > "Stephanie Weil" <> wrote in message > news:1154026330.573208.90060@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > > Yeah. Seriously. At least you can still find radios in the Goodwills > > Actually, I quit visiting the thrifts around here a few years ago. A > complete waste of time unless you want broken 1980s/1990s solid-state junk. (snip) > Phil Nelson Clearly OT for here (apologies, fellow Vacuumlanders), but a few weeks ago I went into a local "Sally Anne" thift and found a pristine condition, solid state Pioneer SX-636 AM/FM receiver on the floor. "How much" said I. Kid in charge said "That's an amplifier... they're all ten bucks". I checked it in the store with one of their typical junk speakers and a scrap of speaker wire antenna (one channel at a time) on AM and FM radio - seemed to work so took a chance for CAN$10.00 plus sales 7% tax. At home I checked it out fully... perfect. No scratchy pots, no intermittant switches, not even a dial lamp burned... How did it get there and for how long? Cheers, Roger Article: 338361 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question Date: 28 Jul 2006 20:02:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1154142120.908002.67600@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: Gary Tayman wrote: > The seven presets? Yes, I've known about them for years. Just about all > the Delco radios with four electronic preset buttons have this, including > mine. > > I found out about it years ago when I accidentally hit two buttons at once > in my Firebird. I noticed when I did this, the tuner went to something like > 88.1. So out of curiosity I tried to set a station with both buttons > depressed -- and it took it! Playing around I found that there were three > more settings -- however if I hit buttons 1 and 3 together it doesn't > work -- the buttons have to be next to each other. > > Later when I bought this Cadillac, I actually went through the operating > manual. This car has a lot of "toys", not the least of which is a sensor > that determines what direction the sun is shining, and automatically adjusts > the A/C outlets side to side, and front and rear, to compensate. Of course > there's the speed sensitive steering, speed sensitive struts, auto day/night > mirror, auto time-delay headlights, motorized trunk release, and on and on > it goes. The owner's manual is enough in itself, with built-in calculator. > Yes, buy a Cadillac, get a free calculator! Scattered throughout the pages > of the manual are photos and descriptions of classic Cadillacs, which are > very interesting. Anyway, when it gets to the stereo, it indeed states that > you can set up to 7 presets on this radio for AM, and another 7 for FM, > using the two-button technique. > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > > > "William R. Walsh" > wrote in message news:Jryyg.862848$084.639305@attbi_s22... > > Hi! > > > >> The dilemma is this: does anybody know what's inside this thing? > > > > There's some integration, but most of the parts should be fairly standard, > > though many may be surface mount. > > > > Most of the ones that have an onboard amplifier use some sort of an > > integrated device with all the functions you need for an audio power amp > > in > > one package. In most cases you will see it bolted to the radio frame for > > heat sinking purposes. > > > > I would think the "Symphony Sound" radio could be done either way...so > > you'll just have to pull it out and see. I've never worked on one, but I > > have worked with several other GM radios from that era. Most are fairly > > straightforward to remove--pull the trim off the dash (it unscrews in > > nearly > > all cases) and then you can see the radio mounting bolts on the sides of > > the > > set. Take them out, pull the radio toward you and there you go. The > > connector is usually a single block affair that plugs into a socket at the > > back. > > > > By far and away the most common problems I've heard of with these radios > > are > > cracked solder joints (obvious when you think about it!), bad capacitors, > > failed belts (probably due to heat), gummed up grease and burned out > > bulbs. > > Despite the heat and abusive conditions, actual electronic failures are > > really pretty uncommon in my experience. > > > > If you do get it fixed, you might find the following trick useful! > > http://greyghost.dyndns.org/delco/ > > > > William I knew about the pushbutton thing, not the extra presets (and there are some Mexican models with 5 buttons not 4)! Getting them out of the dash is easy, disassembly??? Fair, I rate that and you have to make sure you don't damage the lightguide in the front panel (one bulb lights that entire thing). The tape decks aren't bad for removal as long as you scout it out well. The connectors between parts and boards are to be consider more than breakable, like almost any connector, and shaky short hands with no moxie like mine can barely get the phono cartridge mounted without looking up for a minute, but after that it's greasy kid stuff for you, Gary. Article: 338362 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Cheap Philco 70 Date: 28 Jul 2006 20:10:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1154142643.980937.321340@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154006576.465349.279840@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Engineer wrote: > Phil Nelson wrote: > > "Stephanie Weil" <> wrote in message > > news:1154026330.573208.90060@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > > > Yeah. Seriously. At least you can still find radios in the Goodwills > > > > Actually, I quit visiting the thrifts around here a few years ago. A > > complete waste of time unless you want broken 1980s/1990s solid-state junk. > > (snip) > > > Phil Nelson > > Clearly OT for here (apologies, fellow Vacuumlanders), but a few weeks > ago I went into a local "Sally Anne" thift and found a pristine > condition, solid state Pioneer SX-636 AM/FM receiver on the floor. > "How much" said I. Kid in charge said "That's an amplifier... they're > all ten bucks". I checked it in the store with one of their typical > junk speakers and a scrap of speaker wire antenna (one channel at a > time) on AM and FM radio - seemed to work so took a chance for > CAN$10.00 plus sales 7% tax. > > At home I checked it out fully... perfect. No scratchy pots, no > intermittant switches, not even a dial lamp burned... How did it get > there and for how long? > Cheers, > Roger Big smile! I had a 525 and that model was supposed to be a big improvement in distortion figures, both THD and IM, a big step in the good direction, and a real sharp looking set to boot. Not one I see snagged as often, and a lot of 450 and '70-72 or '73 jobs do show up or it's x80, x50 or some cat honking about QX-949 or SX-1980 (please, it's nice and I don't need one)... Article: 338363 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "philsvintageradios" Subject: bakalite tv in Connecticut Date: 28 Jul 2006 20:38:34 -0700 Message-ID: <1154144314.653317.251490@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> nothing to do with me, but I happened to notice this , still at 10 bucks, less than a day to go, local pickup. might be a neat project for someone out there.. :) 330010973126 Phil Article: 338364 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: bakalite tv in Connecticut Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:48:18 -0400 Message-ID: <12clmk5532dpk6a@news.supernews.com> References: <1154144314.653317.251490@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> sorry, I only collect bakerlite TVs. :) Article: 338365 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Way OT but of possible interest here. References: <44CA9E35.48BE4761@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:08:08 GMT Michael A. Terrell wrote: > When are you going to turn your free forklift into a robot? ;-) Haven't you heard? I already did. It has specific instructions to remove cars from the parking lot and deposit them out in the middle of the street. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 338366 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: In need of replacement dial glass References: <2tqyg.4410$c11.3571@trnddc08> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:10:08 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > Will the REAL dial maker, please STAND UP! You need to be specific... And use the correct terms. Are you talking about the dial itself? It that glass with printing on it? Or are you talking about the dial COVER. And is that glass or plastic? If you're talking about a formed plastic cover I can make those. But right now John Bachman is stating that he does them. So talk to him about it. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 338367 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:19:28 -0500 From: jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) Subject: Re: Rocking Tuning Gang Alignment Message-ID: References: In article , "Dave McClellan" wrote: > Assuming you have an output meter connected across the speaker (should be an > ANALOG meter like an old VTVM or VOM) and signal generator, adjust the low > frequency padder for maximum output. Then move the tuning cap one direction > or the other and readjust the padder. If the output increases, CONTINUE to > the move the tuning in the same direction until no further increase in > output occurs. If output decreases, tune in the OPPOSITE direction. You > can do this "by ear" also. Some of the guess work, which way to go, can be taken out of this process by using a tuning wand to indicate which direction the tuning cap needs to be moved, if any. Regards, John Byrns Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ Article: 338368 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Radio Shack From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1154056320.576981.83740@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154130495.519546.87840@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:25:44 GMT In article <1154130495.519546.87840@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, manyrumours@lycos.com says... > > > >Okay, I asked. Thank you for helping me out. Did I need the badge >underneath the tuning knob for this cabinet? > not really as thats a Phono / Radio switch.. probably attached to the chassis so better you take it off than the seller JOhn k9uwa Article: 338369 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44CAE4EB.535A4EF2@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Way OT but of possible interest here. References: <44CA9E35.48BE4761@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:33:29 GMT Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > > When are you going to turn your free forklift into a robot? ;-) > > Haven't you heard? I already did. It has specific instructions to > remove cars from the parking lot and deposit them out in the middle > of the street. The program specifications called for it to stack them directly in the crusher. ;-) -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 338370 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <7472-44CAA455-38@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:56:13 -0400 Message-ID: BILL YOU WOULD WANT TO SHIP THESE "MEDIA MAIL" BY USPS, ITS MUCH CHEAPER. MARK OPPAT "Bill Turner" wrote in message news:7472-44CAA455-38@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net... > I LISTED MY RIDERS VOLUMES 1-23 FOR $400, I CAN'T USE THEM SINCE MY > STROKE SO I HAVE LOWERED THE PRICE TO $300. I CAN HAVE A FRIEND TAKE > THEN TO THE LOCAL UPS FOR PACKING AND SHIPPING. > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. > > > > > Article: 338371 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <6emdnZ8CrbmVAlfZnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Rocking Tuning Gang Alignment Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 01:00:45 -0400 Message-ID: and dont forget this important step... get the dial pointer aligned to the "dead start point" at the low end of the dial with the tuning cap closed. Most manufacturer's data will call out what that point is if its not obvious on the dial. Mark Oppat "Bob" wrote in message news:6emdnZ8CrbmVAlfZnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com... > "Bob" wrote in message > news:FYednQfG1PANHlTZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Can someone explain the alignment procedure that says "...while rocking > > tuning gang". > > > > Exactly how does one do this? > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > > Thanks, everyone, for all the help. I'll try this alignment all over again > and hopefully things will turn out with better results. > > Bob > > > Article: 338372 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" Subject: just did an H500 TO and... Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 01:11:07 -0400 Message-ID: every damn bumble bee cap was leakage city! YOW, never saw them this bad, like all around 200K on the old Simpson VOM! The AC bypass (.047) was split right open, too, but you couldnt see it since the split faced the chassis. I did 11 of those caps...there might have been 13 originally, but 2 were changed previously. Now the set works! Plus it had a bad 1U4 and 1S5. This set had the old selenium replaced by a diode in 1968 the tag says. The older 8G005 used wax type paper caps... they are not as bad as the bumble bees. By the 600 series, Zenith was using mostly disc caps... and they dont go bad so thats why so many 600 sets are found still playing (except for bad seleniums, 130 ohm power resistors and ballast tubes). Mark Oppat Article: 338373 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: just did an H500 TO and... Date: 28 Jul 2006 22:26:37 -0700 Message-ID: <1154150797.602383.149350@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Mark Oppat wrote: > every damn bumble bee cap was leakage city! YOW, never saw them this bad, > like all around 200K on the old Simpson VOM! The AC bypass (.047) was > split right open, too, but you couldnt see it since the split faced the > chassis. > I did 11 of those caps...there might have been 13 originally, but 2 were > changed previously. Now the set works! Plus it had a bad 1U4 and 1S5. > This set had the old selenium replaced by a diode in 1968 the tag says. The > older 8G005 used wax type paper caps... they are not as bad as the bumble > bees. > > By the 600 series, Zenith was using mostly disc caps... and they dont go bad > so thats why so many 600 sets are found still playing (except for bad > seleniums, 130 ohm power resistors and ballast tubes). > > Mark Oppat Save those bumblebees for the HiFi and guitar amp crowd. The .022 are especially desired. What do they care about leakage, heh,heh? Article: 338374 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: epjodrey@hotmail.com Subject: Electrohome Dual 1210 Turntable. Date: 28 Jul 2006 22:28:06 -0700 Message-ID: <1154150886.864928.156350@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Hi everyone. I have the above turntable. Dug out my old LP's and dusted off the turntable. It skips over the record. I can't remember how to adjust the thing. Any help appreciated. Thanks Errol Article: 338375 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44cb2d1f$0$4521$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO AMP-400 WATTS/CHANNEL-$275 References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154082147.339402.312400@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154100271.505180.130470@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1154111667.046096.291590@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154128324.617297.188130@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154128840.152975.262290@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44CA9D4D.26081FCD@earthlink.net> Date: 29 Jul 2006 09:40:47 GMT In rec.antiques.radio+phono Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Be sure to tune in at the same time next week for a brand new episode > of "Troll vs Troll"! You mean, the hourly show? ;-) -- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 338376 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "smogchokedLosAngeles" Subject: Re: NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO AMP-400 WATTS/CHANNEL-$275 Date: 29 Jul 2006 03:13:29 -0700 Message-ID: <1154168009.515655.21530@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > jim menning wrote: > > "smogchokedLosAngeles" wrote in message > > news:1154128840.152975.262290@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > > > >> > > >> When are you and Bob going to be the very first gay divorcees in the > > >> same brain? > > > > > > > > > you make a brave noise from behind your computer screen- > > > > > > I'd wager you'd sing a different tune, in person > > > > > > like this > > > > > > "wimper...." > > > > > > > More like Ned Beatty bent over a log. > > > > jim menning > > Is he still alive? Who looks like him, Bob, Nudo or do both of them > resemble Twoface from Batman? the "uggo" DeserTBob looks exactly like this- from his own myspace.com page, that someone found and shared- DeserTBoob took this down fast- but not before we copied the page ! too funny http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=21aa1ip notice the bad mustache- he's an illegal alien Mexican rat, that snuck across the border at night, to get free SS checks off the USA gov't, living on taxpayer coin Article: 338377 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "smogchokedLosAngeles" Subject: Re: NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO AMP-400 WATTS/CHANNEL-$275 Date: 29 Jul 2006 03:26:29 -0700 Message-ID: <1154168789.323241.128890@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > jim menning wrote: > > "smogchokedLosAngeles" wrote in message > > news:1154128840.152975.262290@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > > > >> > > >> When are you and Bob going to be the very first gay divorcees in the > > >> same brain? > > > > > > > > > you make a brave noise from behind your computer screen- > > > > > > I'd wager you'd sing a different tune, in person > > > > > > like this > > > > > > "wimper...." > > > > > > > More like Ned Beatty bent over a log. > > > > jim menning > > Is he still alive? Who looks like him, Bob, Nudo or do both of them > resemble Twoface from Batman? wanna see a good one ? DeserTBob the uggo, trying to romance a former Led Zeppelin groupie Cyd, over on the Zep site- Boob states his hair was "even longer" than in the current pic- we could squeeze his hair out, and get a quart of oil for the car no doubt... http://groups.google.com/group/alt.music.led-zeppelin/browse_frm/thread/b6ceaf5f8f2d1294/5c7f4db13b704166#5c7f4db13b704166 Article: 338378 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Re: In need of replacement dial glass Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 08:56:55 -0400 Message-ID: References: <2tqyg.4410$c11.3571@trnddc08> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:38:55 GMT, k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) wrote: >In article <2tqyg.4410$c11.3571@trnddc08>, caradio@verizon.net says... >> >> >>Will the REAL dial maker, please STAND UP! >> >>Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > > >John Bachman >P. O. Box 1200, Amherst, NH 03031 >100 Merrimack Road, Amherst, NH 03031 >Dial Covers > Yes, I can make dial covers, but not dials. See www.anatekcorp.com/dialcovers/dialcovers.htm for details on ordering. Do not be dismayed if your specific cover is not listed. I am building a supply of molds, I use resin for a perfect surface, and can make any from a sketch and description. Sorry for the delay in answering. I am vacationing in an internet twilight zone. John Bachman AnaTek Corporation The Electronic Repair Center at www.anatekcorp.com Article: 338379 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Electrohome Dual 1210 Turntable. Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 14:54:47 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1154150886.864928.156350@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Errol wrote: > Hi everyone. I have the above turntable. Dug out my old LP's and dusted > off the turntable. It skips over the record. I can't remember how to > adjust the thing. Any help appreciated. Thanks Errol Errol, 1. set the weight adjustment scale to zero 2. put the arm on the rest 3. screw the counterweight to get the arm balanced 4. set the weight scale to e.g. 2 grams 5. if antiscating is adjustable set according to weight Oops, I forgot: 0. remove dust from the needle ;-) Hope that helps. Kind Regards Georg Article: 338380 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Electrohome Dual 1210 Turntable. Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 09:14:44 -0400 Message-ID: <12cmnq86o19nk16@news.supernews.com> References: <1154150886.864928.156350@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> wrote in message news:1154150886.864928.156350@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Hi everyone. I have the above turntable. Dug out my old LP's and dusted > off the turntable. It skips over the record. I can't remember how to > adjust the thing. Any help appreciated. Thanks Errol Man, it's been probably 25 years since I've done this, but here goes: Set the numbered wheel near the tonearm pivot to 0 (zero). Now, you "balance the arm". This is done by achieving equilibrium of the arm with the stylus (needle) floating just off where a record would be. In fact, I do it with a record on the platter. Support the front end (cartridge and stylus end) of the arm with one hand so as not to allow any damage. Rotate the small chrome knob at the back of the arm (it sticks out, pointing directly away from the arm) so that the arm comes into balance. The knob is tightening or loosening a spring, and will allow you to achieve balance. The arm will tend to go in to the middle of the record while you're doing this or when it's balanced, since most 1210s have an anti-skating spring preset underneath the arm. Ignore this action. With the arm floating and the wheel at zero, you are balanced. Return the arm to its resting post and secure it. Set the numbered wheel to 2, if you have the standard Dual or just about any crystal cartridge. This arm will not track properly at much less than 2 grams without adjustment of the anti-skating spring. Some 1210s had a 4-pole motor, which allowed use of a magnetic cartridge, but not many. Enjoy the music! From babushka{AT}dom{DOT}com Sat Jul 29 12:03:43 EDT 2006 Article: 338381 of rec.antiques.radio+phono NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 08:31:47 -0500 From: "Bob" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: <6emdnZ8CrbmVAlfZnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Rocking Tuning Gang Alignment Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 08:31:46 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original Message-ID: Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.162.7.235 X-Trace: sv3-sCG/mV49ewXlI+Nxmt3azdjhBLIgvqNWzonnz4sKUTq75GGOii6cDTaAetY9HEF93wMmxfyTJDW1r1K!4C2ET5XWiwivXbcq17FUOSNT/xz3YHij//Vp6g0vfyTII5j3f01gctNA9mKQVG9QIK2gRDOKobWa!ZCy/Acg= X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:338381 "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:y46dnY1DPtxad1fZnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > and dont forget this important step... get the dial pointer aligned to > the > "dead start point" at the low end of the dial with the tuning cap closed. > Most manufacturer's data will call out what that point is if its not > obvious > on the dial. > > Mark Oppat On one particular radio, a Zenith, the Zenith alignment instructions say to align the 455 IF with the tuning cap fully open (1620). However, the SAMS say to align the 455 IF with the tuning cap at 600kHz! Which is correct??? Thanks. Article: 338382 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Rocking Tuning Gang Alignment References: <6emdnZ8CrbmVAlfZnZ2dnUVZ_uqdnZ2d@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 13:42:13 GMT Bob wrote: > On one particular radio, a Zenith, the Zenith alignment instructions say to > align the 455 IF with the tuning cap fully open (1620). However, the SAMS > say to align the 455 IF with the tuning cap at 600kHz! > > Which is correct??? The Zenith instructions if they are the factory instructions. Sams is an after market thing, and sometimes they tended to guess. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 338383 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 08:39:40 -0500 Message-ID: <13057-44CB651C-214@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: THE STROKE HAS MADE ANY SORT OF TRAVEL OUT OF THE QUESTION, THAT IS WHY THE COMMENT ABOUT HAVING A FRIEND TAKE THEM TO THE UPS STORE. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 338384 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 08:41:07 -0500 Message-ID: <13057-44CB6573-216@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: WITH USPS I WOULD HAVE TO BOX THEM WHICH IS BEYOND MY CAPABILITY. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 338385 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO AMP-400 WATTS/CHANNEL-$275 Date: 29 Jul 2006 07:42:02 -0700 Message-ID: <1154184122.310623.156550@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl wrote: > In rec.antiques.radio+phono Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > Be sure to tune in at the same time next week for a brand new episode > > of "Troll vs Troll"! > > You mean, the hourly show? ;-) > > -- > Met vriendelijke groet, > > Maarten Bakker. Somebody has Tivo? Do they make you watch the commercials? Article: 338386 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Radio Shack Date: 29 Jul 2006 07:44:35 -0700 Message-ID: <1154184275.591121.267560@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154056320.576981.83740@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > In article <1154130495.519546.87840@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, > manyrumours@lycos.com says... > > > > > > > >Okay, I asked. Thank you for helping me out. Did I need the badge > >underneath the tuning knob for this cabinet? > > > not really as thats a Phono / Radio switch.. probably attached > to the chassis so better you take it off than the seller > JOhn k9uwa That's a bit more than 60 bucks shipping if I leave it in the cabinet though. Haven't heard back anyway. Article: 338387 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Electrohome Dual 1210 Turntable. Date: 29 Jul 2006 07:47:50 -0700 Message-ID: <1154184470.701877.287220@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154150886.864928.156350@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Buck Frobisher wrote: > wrote in message > news:1154150886.864928.156350@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Hi everyone. I have the above turntable. Dug out my old LP's and dusted > > off the turntable. It skips over the record. I can't remember how to > > adjust the thing. Any help appreciated. Thanks Errol > > Man, it's been probably 25 years since I've done this, but here goes: > > Set the numbered wheel near the tonearm pivot to 0 (zero). > > Now, you "balance the arm". This is done by achieving equilibrium of the > arm with the stylus (needle) floating just off where a record would be. In > fact, I do it with a record on the platter. > > Support the front end (cartridge and stylus end) of the arm with one hand so > as not to allow any damage. Rotate the small chrome knob at the back of the > arm (it sticks out, pointing directly away from the arm) so that the arm > comes into balance. The knob is tightening or loosening a spring, and will > allow you to achieve balance. > > The arm will tend to go in to the middle of the record while you're doing > this or when it's balanced, since most 1210s have an anti-skating spring > preset underneath the arm. Ignore this action. > > With the arm floating and the wheel at zero, you are balanced. Return the > arm to its resting post and secure it. > > Set the numbered wheel to 2, if you have the standard Dual or just about any > crystal cartridge. This arm will not track properly at much less than 2 > grams without adjustment of the anti-skating spring. Some 1210s had a > 4-pole motor, which allowed use of a magnetic cartridge, but not many. > > Enjoy the music! I saw a Numark TT-1910 on eBay a week or so back and he related the same kind of trouble. I sent him a message and asked where the counterweight was. Article: 338388 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Way OT but of possible interest here. Date: 29 Jul 2006 07:50:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1154184600.626129.204980@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > > > > When are you going to turn your free forklift into a robot? ;-) > > > > Haven't you heard? I already did. It has specific instructions to > > remove cars from the parking lot and deposit them out in the middle > > of the street. > > > The program specifications called for it to stack them directly in > the crusher. ;-) It must be a beta. Article: 338389 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: lanpeng@lanvs.com Subject: Welcome to our web-- www.lanvs.com Date: 29 Jul 2006 07:54:33 -0700 Message-ID: <1154184872.849316.50910@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Dear friend. 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Article: 338390 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO AMP-400 WATTS/CHANNEL-$275 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 07:52:20 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154082147.339402.312400@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154100271.505180.130470@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1154111667.046096.291590@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154128324.617297.188130@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154128840.152975.262290@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44CA9D4D.26081FCD@earthlink.net> <44cb2d1f$0$4521$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> On 29 Jul 2006 09:40:47 GMT, maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl wrote: >Met vriendelijke groet, De strond has frappe de grolen! Article: 338391 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 10:27:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Electrohome Dual 1210 Turntable. From: John Stone Message-ID: References: <1154150886.864928.156350@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 7/29/06 7:54 AM, in article eaflqq$bub$03$1@news.t-online.com, "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> wrote: > 1. set the weight adjustment scale to zero > 2. put the arm on the rest > 3. screw the counterweight to get the arm balanced > 4. set the weight scale to e.g. 2 grams > 5. if antiscating is adjustable set according to weight > > Oops, I forgot: > > 0. remove dust from the needle ;-) Probably the best advice so far, and the first thing to do before fooling with the tracking force. Unless somebody messed with it, there's no reason it should be so far off. One last thing, check to see if there IS a needle. If the tip is busted off (very common), the arm will just skate across the record as he describes. Article: 338392 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: CQ Paula Date: 29 Jul 2006 08:40:49 -0700 Message-ID: <1154187649.540264.319360@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <%Hmyg.12454$4c7.1711@tornado.southeast.rr.com> jim menning wrote: > "Carroll Senn" wrote in message > news:%Hmyg.12454$4c7.1711@tornado.southeast.rr.com... > > > > I was cleaning up some old stored NG files and came across a post from Paula Wood > > in Texas, aka LILMOUSE. Anyone hear from her lately or know anything of her > > whereabouts? > > > > > > -- > > Carroll Senn > > Columbia, SC > > > > Disappeared in 2002. > > http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=nlysdhYAAAABGSMYwogiJABPd-Losp8ET89itVsIzhJdPtZq9hZGSQ&hl=en i remember her. she had a husband that posted too. can't remember his name at the moment. Article: 338393 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: CQ Paula Date: 29 Jul 2006 08:46:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1154187960.155556.252250@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <%Hmyg.12454$4c7.1711@tornado.southeast.rr.com> Eddie Brimer wrote: > jim menning wrote: > > "Carroll Senn" wrote in message > > news:%Hmyg.12454$4c7.1711@tornado.southeast.rr.com... > > > > > > I was cleaning up some old stored NG files and came across a post from Paula Wood > > > in Texas, aka LILMOUSE. Anyone hear from her lately or know anything of her > > > whereabouts? > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Carroll Senn > > > Columbia, SC > > > > > > > Disappeared in 2002. > > > > http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=nlysdhYAAAABGSMYwogiJABPd-Losp8ET89itVsIzhJdPtZq9hZGSQ&hl=en > > i remember her. she had a husband that posted too. can't remember his > name at the moment. eman1958 maybe??? Article: 338394 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: CQ Paula Date: 29 Jul 2006 08:52:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1154188344.016295.247250@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <%Hmyg.12454$4c7.1711@tornado.southeast.rr.com> Eddie Brimer wrote: > Eddie Brimer wrote: > > jim menning wrote: > > > "Carroll Senn" wrote in message > > > news:%Hmyg.12454$4c7.1711@tornado.southeast.rr.com... > > > > > > > > I was cleaning up some old stored NG files and came across a post from Paula Wood > > > > in Texas, aka LILMOUSE. Anyone hear from her lately or know anything of her > > > > whereabouts? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Carroll Senn > > > > Columbia, SC > > > > > > > > > > Disappeared in 2002. > > > > > > http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=nlysdhYAAAABGSMYwogiJABPd-Losp8ET89itVsIzhJdPtZq9hZGSQ&hl=en > > > > i remember her. she had a husband that posted too. can't remember his > > name at the moment. > > eman1958 maybe??? yep, that's it. david and paula wood. keepers antiques, hallston tx. Article: 338395 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: RADIOLA DIAL LIGHT HOOD Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 10:48:43 -0500 Message-ID: <778-44CB835B-251@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> I HAVE ONE OF THE ABOVE LESS THE MOUNTING EARS (EASILY REPLACED WITH BITS OF COPPER SOLDERED TO THE INSIDE) THIS ONE DOES NOT HAVE "RCA" EMBOSSED INTO IT. $10.00 POSTPAID CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 338396 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Errol" Subject: Re: Electrohome Dual 1210 Turntable. Date: 29 Jul 2006 09:19:50 -0700 Message-ID: <1154189989.987506.192530@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154150886.864928.156350@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Thanks, Georg,Buck, and Steven. I'll try your advice. Will let you know how it goes. Errol. John Stone wrote: > On 7/29/06 7:54 AM, in article eaflqq$bub$03$1@news.t-online.com, "Georg > Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> wrote: > > > 1. set the weight adjustment scale to zero > > 2. put the arm on the rest > > 3. screw the counterweight to get the arm balanced > > 4. set the weight scale to e.g. 2 grams > > 5. if antiscating is adjustable set according to weight > > > > Oops, I forgot: > > > > 0. remove dust from the needle ;-) > > Probably the best advice so far, and the first thing to do before fooling > with the tracking force. Unless somebody messed with it, there's no reason > it should be so far off. One last thing, check to see if there IS a needle. > If the tip is busted off (very common), the arm will just skate across the > record as he describes. Article: 338397 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "radionutz" References: <9Tpxg.4508$bP5.3462@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <9Psxg.96471$1i1.57431@attbi_s72> <44c66972_3@x-privat.org> <75Fxg.4818$bP5.4344@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1153900284.696299.223540@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: more Worbud? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:20:40 GMT When I said that the clock separates from the radio I may not have been clear. As a unit no the clock part does not come off separate. It is one cabinet. What I meant was that on dis-assembly the clock is not mounted to the chassis. It is mounted to the cabinet and you can remove the chassis without removing the clock. DON "Steven" wrote in message news:1153900284.696299.223540@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Omer Suleimanagich wrote: >> Looks like a, CLOCK/radio! >> >> >> >> Omer >> >> >> >> "Lee Babcock" wrote in message >> news:44c66972_3@x-privat.org... >> > William R. Walsh wrote: >> >> Hi! >> > >> >> It's a nice looking set...does the main radio separate from the clock >> >> body >> >> as your pictures suggest? >> >> >> >> William >> > As a piece of furniture, it is what is called an Art Deco Waterfall >> > design >> > Regards >> > Lee > > > Nice site. Wish you would at least put up a blind page for those who do > not have binaries as our eyes have become Googley. > Article: 338398 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "radionutz" References: <9Tpxg.4508$bP5.3462@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <9Psxg.96471$1i1.57431@attbi_s72> <44c66972_3@x-privat.org> Subject: Re: more Worbud? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:23:10 GMT William; When I said that the clock separates from the radio I may not have been clear. As a unit no the clock part does not come off separate. It is one cabinet. What I meant was that on dis-assembly the clock is not mounted to the chassis. It is mounted to the cabinet and you can remove the chassis without removing the clock. DON "William R. Walsh" wrote in message news:gMNxg.1101109$xm3.27014@attbi_s21... > Hi! > >> As a piece of furniture, it is what is called an Art Deco Waterfall >> design > > I was thinking that it might be such an arrangement where the radio would > stay with the clock of a night (or whenever) and then come out during the > day so that one might listen to it elsewhere... > > At the very least, that sounds like a convenient (and money saving) idea. > > William > > Article: 338399 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dan Olson" Subject: Mark Oppat's web site Date: 29 Jul 2006 09:57:52 -0700 Message-ID: <1154192271.939410.71780@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Does Mark Oppat have a web site? If so please give me the link. Thanks Dan Article: 338400 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave" Subject: Re: RADIOLA DIAL LIGHT HOOD Date: 29 Jul 2006 10:07:42 -0700 Message-ID: <1154192861.936262.66150@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <778-44CB835B-251@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Bill Turner wrote: > I HAVE ONE OF THE ABOVE LESS THE MOUNTING EARS (EASILY REPLACED WITH > BITS OF COPPER SOLDERED TO THE INSIDE) THIS ONE DOES NOT HAVE "RCA" > EMBOSSED INTO IT. $10.00 POSTPAID > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Bill, I think I want it. I'm assuming this is an original old part (?). I'll email you direct. Dave Allen Article: 338401 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave" Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Date: 29 Jul 2006 10:35:41 -0700 Message-ID: <1154194541.127573.281020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: Bill Turner wrote: > WITH USPS I WOULD HAVE TO BOX THEM WHICH IS BEYOND MY CAPABILITY. Could your friend take them to some other mailing service, ie. Mail Boxes Etc? The media mail rate is a significant discount. I had several old automotive manuals I sold thru Ebay and some them were 10 pounds plus. I got some funny looks at the post office but shipping was CHEAP. Article: 338402 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1154150797.602383.149350@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: just did an H500 TO and... Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 13:51:19 -0400 Message-ID: yeah, I know that. I have sold some of these junky caps. Fine if you want them in a guitar...I guess. Mark Oppat "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1154150797.602383.149350@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Mark Oppat wrote: > > every damn bumble bee cap was leakage city! YOW, never saw them this bad, > > like all around 200K on the old Simpson VOM! The AC bypass (.047) was > > split right open, too, but you couldnt see it since the split faced the > > chassis. > > I did 11 of those caps...there might have been 13 originally, but 2 were > > changed previously. Now the set works! Plus it had a bad 1U4 and 1S5. > > This set had the old selenium replaced by a diode in 1968 the tag says. The > > older 8G005 used wax type paper caps... they are not as bad as the bumble > > bees. > > > > By the 600 series, Zenith was using mostly disc caps... and they dont go bad > > so thats why so many 600 sets are found still playing (except for bad > > seleniums, 130 ohm power resistors and ballast tubes). > > > > Mark Oppat > Save those bumblebees for the HiFi and guitar amp crowd. The .022 are > especially desired. What do they care about leakage, heh,heh? > > Article: 338403 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 12:45:02 -0500 Message-ID: <13057-44CB9E9E-242@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <1154194541.127573.281020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> WE DON'T HAVE A MAIL BOXES ETC IN THE ST. CHARLES AREA. I WOULD TAKE IT TO ONE BUT I CAN'T ASK MY FRIEND TO TAKE IT. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 338404 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <2tqyg.4410$c11.3571@trnddc08> Subject: Re: In need of replacement dial glass Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 14:10:27 -0400 Message-ID: <2pidnRcoMqtGPlbZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com> Here is the deal on repro radio DIALS (not KNOBS, or DIAL COVERS)... There are now two main sources 1. www.radiodaze.com just bought out the plastic scale business of Rock Sea Ents (Mike Tobin). They make laminated dials, printed from computer files. The advantage is they can make many types, even custom ones. Disadvantage is they dont look as original or pass light thru them (VERY important for Philco due to the dial pointer is a beam of light). 2. www.oldradioparts.net (ME!). Formerly the Clint Blais dial biz of O'Fallon, IL. Clint died in '99, I bought the biz in '03. Real silk screen printed dials on transluscent phenolic. Color and transparency is nearly perfect match to original. HOWEVER, I can only do the most common types as they are all professionally printed, then I cut them and store them. So, I sit on thousands of dollars of stock. I may consider making new types if enough demand. The current line of dials is about 80 types. I have a few other products Clint made, such as AK metal tags for the model 10 breadboards, and round disc tags for the battery terminals. There are other minor sources for repro DIALS... such as Steve Turner in Toledo, OH for Catalin radio dials. Check also with Kris Gimmy in SC for them, he may know other sources. Dial COVER makers include: John Bachman >P. O. Box 1200, Amherst, NH 03031 >100 Merrimack Road, Amherst, NH 03031 Also, Mark Palmquist 5033 Arbor Lane Lilburn, GA 30047 770-923-8929 mark@NOSPAMsarsradio.com remove NOSPAM to access email I saw Mark at Lansing this year and he was handing out flyers and had a nice display. "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:xtSdnfhM6_EfzFfZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@giganews.com... > Radio Daze makes glass dial scales. They also bought out Rock Sea's entire > product line of plastic dial scales and decals. The current catalog says > they will be producing the Rock Sea stuff in September 2006. > > http://www.radiodaze.com/ > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > > Article: 338405 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave" Subject: Re: Rocking Tuning Gang Alignment Date: 29 Jul 2006 11:09:02 -0700 Message-ID: <1154196542.647339.150530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: Paul P wrote: > Additional comment: > > You may think that you are putting the dial indicator out of sync with the > dial scale. Ignore the feeling to pull back and re-align the indicator to > the dial scale. It should come back in with additional alignment steps. > Could som e review the whole alignment process again? As I understand it, you align the IF's, align at the high end of the dial, then set the signal generator AND the the dial at, say, 600 khz and adjust the padder to get a strong output. Do you then rock the tuner and adjust the padder with the signal generator STILL at 600 khz? How does the alignment "come back"? Article: 338406 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Electrohome Dual 1210 Turntable. Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 14:11:03 -0400 Message-ID: <12cn95qt1b8g024@news.supernews.com> References: <1154150886.864928.156350@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "John Stone" wrote in message news:C0F0E87A.51E77%jmsent2@comcast.net... > > > > On 7/29/06 7:54 AM, in article eaflqq$bub$03$1@news.t-online.com, "Georg > Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> wrote: > >> 1. set the weight adjustment scale to zero >> 2. put the arm on the rest >> 3. screw the counterweight to get the arm balanced >> 4. set the weight scale to e.g. 2 grams >> 5. if antiscating is adjustable set according to weight >> >> Oops, I forgot: >> >> 0. remove dust from the needle ;-) > > Probably the best advice so far, and the first thing to do before fooling > with the tracking force. Unless somebody messed with it, there's no reason > it should be so far off. One last thing, check to see if there IS a > needle. > If the tip is busted off (very common), the arm will just skate across the > record as he describes. Yes, except that there is NO counterweight on this model (>> 3. screw the counterweight to get the arm balanced), adjustment is by a spring. Article: 338407 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" References: <13057-44CB6573-216@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <1154194541.127573.281020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 14:21:14 -0400 Message-ID: <44cba717$0$2924$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "Dave" wrote in message news:1154194541.127573.281020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > Bill Turner wrote: >> WITH USPS I WOULD HAVE TO BOX THEM WHICH IS BEYOND MY CAPABILITY. > > Could your friend take them to some other mailing service, ie. Mail > Boxes Etc? The media mail rate is a significant discount. I had > several old automotive manuals I sold thru Ebay and some them were 10 > pounds plus. I got some funny looks at the post office but shipping > was CHEAP. > The "Funny looks" may have been a question as to contents. I used to send quite a few things out (media of course) via Media Mail. One day me and the postal clerk got into a pissing match. She threatened to open the package if I didn't come clean. I told her what was in it and dared her to do so - I didn't have to worry about her finding other than I stated. THEN she tried to say what I was shipping was NOT permissible. I challenged her to show me in her manual. She searched for 10 minutes and could NOT come up with anything to say my stuff was NOT "media". Then she said - it is a gray area. I said - maybe so but unless it definatively says NO - you have to go through with it. Oh and it "was" "printed" material. AND along these lines, I've also been told some people were busted trying to ship out "electronics" or other items via "media" mail. So, at least around here - they're getting pretty particular and doubtful as to contents. You do have to wonder - if you can send a 10 pound box of "papers" for say $5, why can't you send a 10 pound box of "electronics" for that - insured? I mean - you could argue the electronics are expensive to replace - but lets face it - if you're shipping irreplaceable books/manifests - whats the difference in value? Just my 2 cents...... Lou Article: 338408 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:31:55 GMT Hi! > The seven presets? Yes, I've known about them for years. Well, that brought me down a peg or two. Here I thought I was unleashing this unheard of thought. (I'm just kidding.) Oh well. :-D I was goofing around (actually, I was trying to fix the cigarette lighter socket so a cell phone could be charged with it) in my dad's $100 1988 Buick LeSabre when I discovered this. And like you, I noticed that the two buttons being pressed brought about a different result. At first I thought it was a mistake--that the second button hadn't been programmed with a station, but that its keystroke had registered with the tuning controller instead of the first button. A little more playing and I realized it wasn't a mistake. The radio really takes 7 presets! Of course, no Buick or other manual that I've ever seen documents this. And it works across a wide variety of radios from many model years. > Yes, buy a Cadillac, get a free calculator! At one time you got a name plaque to stick on the glovebox. I've seen them...my dad bought his '79 Cadillac Phaeton Deville (!!!) brand new and still has all the stuff for it. (Sadly, he hit a deer and messed things up a bit. We still have the car, but it's been nearly impossible to find parts or someone competent enough to work on it. It has been coming back together, but it is a very slow process.) > Scattered throughout the pages of the manual are photos and > descriptions of classic Cadillacs, which are very interesting. I've seen this in at least one Buick manual for an early 90's model. It was >from a loaner car I got when my truck broke down with electrical troubles. Not only were there pictures, but also the complete story of one David Dunbar Buick, obviously the origin of the Buick name. It was pretty cool to look at. > Anyway, when it gets to the stereo, it indeed states that you can > set up to 7 presets on this radio for AM, and another 7 for FM, > using the two-button technique. Very interesting. No other manual I've seen has so far documented this behavior. As a result, when I first saw this, I figured it might be some kind of an "easter egg"...maybe the radio developers added it to the firmware thinking "maybe someone will find this and wonder about it". Do you have any good pictures of your radio conversion PCBs? Would you mind if I wanted to put the excerpt from your post about this being a documented feature (in the Cadillac manual) on my web page? (There, that should be OT enough for now!) William Article: 338409 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <13057-44CB6573-216@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <1154194541.127573.281020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Message-ID: <9SNyg.13745$PN4.11592@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:33:41 GMT "Dave" wrote in message news:1154194541.127573.281020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > Bill Turner wrote: >> WITH USPS I WOULD HAVE TO BOX THEM WHICH IS BEYOND MY CAPABILITY. > > Could your friend take them to some other mailing service, ie. Mail > Boxes Etc? The media mail rate is a significant discount. I had > several old automotive manuals I sold thru Ebay and some them were 10 > pounds plus. I got some funny looks at the post office but shipping > was CHEAP. > What's the difference between the UPS Store & Mailboxes Etc,? I thought they merged a while back. Don't they both use other carriers as well as UPS? Contact them directly and see if they will package and mail via "media mail". The UPS Store # 5443 498 S 5TH ST ST. CHARLES, MO 63301 - USA Phone: (636)940-0664 The UPS Store # 0241 2025 ZUMBEHL RD SAINT CHARLES, MO 63303 - USA Phone: (636)947-8870 Article: 338410 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <1154142120.908002.67600@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question Message-ID: <5ZNyg.864211$084.150814@attbi_s22> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:41:05 GMT Hi! > I knew about the pushbutton thing, not the extra presets (and > there are some Mexican models with 5 buttons not 4)! I've love to see one of those...to find out what "undocumented" features it might have. > Fair, I rate that and you have to make sure you > don't damage the lightguide in the front panel (one bulb lights that > entire thing). The tape decks aren't bad for removal as long as you > scout it out well. The connectors between parts and boards are to be > consider more than breakable I'd tend to agree. Most of them are reasonably easy to take apart with risking disaster. Don't force things. Be careful with any "grain of sand" light bulbs you might find if they have not already burned out. Sometimes you find them behind the buttons. The impressively cheap radio (another story you can read at http://greyghost.dyndns.org/2003s10/radio.htm) from my 2003 S10 has end caps that just snap on. Disassembly is very easy with this, and the internals are quite cheap/fragile. Ugh. William Article: 338411 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: 45 RPM ,Elvis and Beatles Themed 1952 Seeburg 100 C ,Juke Box, Rochester,NY Date: 29 Jul 2006 12:43:35 -0700 Message-ID: <1154202215.450147.136800@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> yawn Gary Tayman wrote: > Uh, excuse me, did you say 1952? > > With Elvis and the Beatles? > > I'm not sure when the Seeburg 100 first came out; I know they were in use in > the mid 1950's -- > > However Elvis didn't have any hits until 1956, and the Beatles were unknown > in this country until 1964. What's inside this jukebox -- a crystal ball? > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > "woodrails" wrote in message > news:1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > Auction ends wedneday afternoon at around 6pm, Real nice working Elvis > > and Beatles themed 1952 Seeburgh 100 C , 45 RPM Juke Box > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&item=330010574620&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 > > > > http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a276/vintagecoinopclassics/1952%20Seeburgh%20100%20C/ > > From suptjudatcomcastdotnet Mon Jul 31 00:58:45 EDT 2006 Article: 338412 of rec.antiques.radio+phono NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:04:08 -0500 From: "TerryJ" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: <1154192271.939410.71780@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mark Oppat's web site Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:04:09 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Message-ID: Lines: 7 NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.56.6.144 X-Trace: sv3-nejN1QXj649wUOVjVpwRzT0xVSiuMDEcTkk7yj5hQrBZQEdVL5Oaw3xhtVB4RrJN2XV7miPK5cyAzCP!vWOtzaunqc5SYwsNvuMPU26QWzp8NErRfXVB6isCP+I9xg6X4tz4jAZ9qWxKJM4rjsFZkcmzr+LX!7IxMxZWUFw== X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:338412 http://oldradioparts.net/ "Dan Olson" wrote in message news:1154192271.939410.71780@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Does Mark Oppat have a web site? If so please give me the link. > Thanks Dan > Article: 338413 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <1154192271.939410.71780@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mark Oppat's web site Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 20:12:06 GMT Mark now has an honored place on my Hobby site Links Page. http://www.ppinyot.com/HomePage.htm#Vendors%20&%20Parts Paul. Article: 338414 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 References: <13057-44CB6573-216@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <1154194541.127573.281020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <44cba717$0$2924$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:18:47 -0500 clfe wrote: > "Dave" wrote in message > news:1154194541.127573.281020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >> Bill Turner wrote: >>> WITH USPS I WOULD HAVE TO BOX THEM WHICH IS BEYOND MY CAPABILITY. >> Could your friend take them to some other mailing service, ie. Mail >> Boxes Etc? The media mail rate is a significant discount. I had >> several old automotive manuals I sold thru Ebay and some them were 10 >> pounds plus. I got some funny looks at the post office but shipping >> was CHEAP. >> > > The "Funny looks" may have been a question as to contents. I used to send > quite a few things out (media of course) via Media Mail. One day me and the > postal clerk got into a pissing match. She threatened to open the package if > I didn't come clean. I told her what was in it and dared her to do so - I > didn't have to worry about her finding other than I stated. THEN she tried > to say what I was shipping was NOT permissible. I challenged her to show me > in her manual. She searched for 10 minutes and could NOT come up with > anything to say my stuff was NOT "media". Then she said - it is a gray area. > I said - maybe so but unless it definatively says NO - you have to go > through with it. Oh and it "was" "printed" material. AND along these lines, > I've also been told some people were busted trying to ship out "electronics" > or other items via "media" mail. So, at least around here - they're getting > pretty particular and doubtful as to contents. > > You do have to wonder - if you can send a 10 pound box of "papers" for say > $5, why can't you send a 10 pound box of "electronics" for that - insured? I > mean - you could argue the electronics are expensive to replace - but lets > face it - if you're shipping irreplaceable books/manifests - whats the > difference in value? I'd say it was the difference in what would happen if you tossed a 10 lb. box of papers on a conveyor belt, vs. 10 lbs of electronic equipment. Nothing delicate about paper, providing the box itself doesn't burst, it's gonna come out fine. 10 lbs. of electronics, OTOH..... > > Just my 2 cents...... > > Lou > > > Article: 338415 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nesesu" Subject: Reforming old electrolytics - yet more info Date: 29 Jul 2006 14:19:35 -0700 Message-ID: <1154207975.340766.54950@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> This is not about the replace/reform question for old electrolytics which has, I think, been well discussed and valid opinions given by many here. This is a bit of data about the electrochemistry inside an electrolytic cap. I think it would be well worth reading the first 3 or 4 pages for anyone here who does not know how electrolytic caps are construced and why they have such large capacitances in a small volume as compared to film caps. In an on line discussion with a friend, on another subject [ESR], I was pointed to this site and I noticed on page 3 under 'electrolyte' a bit of information that might help explain why some old metal can electrolytics will reform well, while others simply will not reform effectively. From the information given, it seems there is a finite ability to reform, and once all the water in the electrolyte is used up, it is impossible to continue reforming. I has rather thought that water was a major constituant of the electrolyte, but this is apparently not so nowadays, and may not have been the case for many years. In any case and interestingly written thumbnail on the subject. http://electrochem.cwru.edu/ed/encycl/misc/c04-appguide.pdf Neil S. Article: 338416 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <2tqyg.4410$c11.3571@trnddc08> <2pidnRcoMqtGPlbZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com> <44CBA478.F0A1C384@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: In need of replacement dial glass Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 17:27:39 -0400 Message-ID: Greg is still very active collector. He runs ads in ARC looking for stuff sometimes. I sell him parts occassionally. Mark Oppat "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44CBA478.F0A1C384@earthlink.net... > Mark Oppat wrote: > > > Hello, Mark. I know the Greg Humanic on your website. He was one of > the two people who bought all my antique radios and parts in 1972, when > I left for the US Army. I haven't seen him since I left Ohio in 1987 > > > > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida > Article: 338417 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <2tqyg.4410$c11.3571@trnddc08> <2pidnRcoMqtGPlbZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: In need of replacement dial glass Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 17:29:27 -0400 Message-ID: Forgot to mention, Radio Daze is the main source for glass dial repros, but I have several too, mostly Philco. I also have the Coca Cola Cooler radio dials and a few others. Forgot to mention decals. I have the Zenith and Philco sheets. $6 postpaid for either. Mark Oppat "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:2pidnRcoMqtGPlbZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > Here is the deal on repro radio DIALS (not KNOBS, or DIAL COVERS)... > > There are now two main sources > > 1. www.radiodaze.com just bought out the plastic scale business of Rock > Sea Ents (Mike Tobin). They make laminated dials, printed from computer > files. The advantage is they can make many types, even custom ones. > Disadvantage is they dont look as original or pass light thru them (VERY > important for Philco due to the dial pointer is a beam of light). > > 2. www.oldradioparts.net (ME!). Formerly the Clint Blais dial biz of > O'Fallon, IL. Clint died in '99, I bought the biz in '03. Real silk > screen printed dials on transluscent phenolic. Color and transparency is > nearly perfect match to original. HOWEVER, I can only do the most common > types as they are all professionally printed, then I cut them and store > them. So, I sit on thousands of dollars of stock. I may consider making > new types if enough demand. The current line of dials is about 80 types. > I have a few other products Clint made, such as AK metal tags for the model > 10 breadboards, and round disc tags for the battery terminals. > > There are other minor sources for repro DIALS... such as Steve Turner in > Toledo, OH for Catalin radio dials. Check also with Kris Gimmy in SC for > them, he may know other sources. > > Dial COVER makers include: > > John Bachman > >P. O. Box 1200, Amherst, NH 03031 > >100 Merrimack Road, Amherst, NH 03031 > > Also, > Mark Palmquist > 5033 Arbor Lane > Lilburn, GA 30047 > 770-923-8929 > mark@NOSPAMsarsradio.com > remove NOSPAM to access email > I saw Mark at Lansing this year and he was handing out flyers and had a > nice display. > > > "Phil Nelson" wrote in message > news:xtSdnfhM6_EfzFfZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@giganews.com... > > Radio Daze makes glass dial scales. They also bought out Rock Sea's entire > > product line of plastic dial scales and decals. The current catalog says > > they will be producing the Rock Sea stuff in September 2006. > > > > http://www.radiodaze.com/ > > > > Regards, > > > > Phil Nelson > > Phil's Old Radios > > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > > > > > > > > > Article: 338418 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: FA: NOS Radio and (mostly) TV knob (not mine) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 06:58:38 +0900 Message-ID: This is one of my favorite sellers. Was perusing their stuff this morning and found this. Lot of good knobs for common 40's and 50's TV sets.. maybe someone here can use some of them. http://cgi.ebay.com/Lot-of-50-Vintage-Old-Radio-TV-Knobs-Still-Packaged_W0QQitemZ170013153598QQihZ007QQcategoryZ7275QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- Over 5 decades of great hits Full Spectrum Radio http://fsr.jadephoenix.org Article: 338419 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" Subject: Odd hum,,, help Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 15:08:51 -0700 I am working on an Wards AM FM table radio. There is a hum,, but before you go suspecting the filter caps, I have already changed them out. The hum is fast, not like a 60 cyl hum. I have also taken every single tube out, to the bare chassis and the hum is still there!!!!!!!!!!! Any suggestions???? wards model 15wg 1545b thanks in advance bob in phx Article: 338420 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44CBDC0E.DC181958@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: In need of replacement dial glass References: <2tqyg.4410$c11.3571@trnddc08> <2pidnRcoMqtGPlbZnZ2dnUVZ_s6dnZ2d@comcast.com> <44CBA478.F0A1C384@earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:08:00 GMT Mark Oppat wrote: > > Greg is still very active collector. He runs ads in ARC looking for stuff > sometimes. I sell him parts occassionally. I think he bought my Transoceanic, and a Philco tombstone fit an open IF coil. I talked to him by e-mail a few years ago, but haven't been able to contact him lately. Tell him I said "Hello" next you talk to him, if you think of it. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 338421 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Odd hum,,, help Date: 29 Jul 2006 15:27:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1154212033.012058.186560@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <44CBDD71.C5D1ADDB@earthlink.net> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Bob in Phx wrote: > > > > I am working on an Wards AM FM table radio. There is a hum,, but before you > > go suspecting the filter caps, I have already changed them out. The hum is > > fast, not like a 60 cyl hum. I have also taken every single tube out, to the > > bare chassis and the hum is still there!!!!!!!!!!! Any suggestions???? > > > > wards model 15wg 1545b > > > > thanks in advance > > > > bob in phx > > > Do you have a link to the schematic, or can you post it on > news:alt.binaries.pictures.radio ? > > > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Does it have a transformer? Have you got B+ shorting into the speaker coil? Article: 338422 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <13057-44CB6573-216@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <1154194541.127573.281020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <44cba717$0$2924$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Message-ID: <%hRyg.13751$PN4.11058@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:28:11 GMT "clfe" wrote in message news:44cba717$0$2924$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net... > > > You do have to wonder - if you can send a 10 pound box of "papers" for say $5, why > can't you send a 10 pound box of "electronics" for that - insured? You may have to go back to why the "media rate" class was created. I read somewhere that the "book rate" was created to further education & reading in America, and as such was given a discount to help achieve that goal. It's probably a similar logic behind the media rate. Another difference is that media rate is delivered with much less priority than other parcel classes. If they can get to it when they have time, or when they have room on the truck rather than getting it delivered in just a few days, they probably save money in many cases, allowing them to charge less. Article: 338423 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 45 RPM ,Elvis and Beatles Themed 1952 Seeburg 100 C ,Juke Box, Rochester,NY Date: 29 Jul 2006 15:33:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1154212380.266008.72300@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> You wouldn't be sleepy if you used it for an alarm clock. RadioGary wrote: > yawn > > > > > > Gary Tayman wrote: > > Uh, excuse me, did you say 1952? > > > > With Elvis and the Beatles? > > > > I'm not sure when the Seeburg 100 first came out; I know they were in use in > > the mid 1950's -- > > > > However Elvis didn't have any hits until 1956, and the Beatles were unknown > > in this country until 1964. What's inside this jukebox -- a crystal ball? > > > > > > > > -- > > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > > > "woodrails" wrote in message > > news:1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > Auction ends wedneday afternoon at around 6pm, Real nice working Elvis > > > and Beatles themed 1952 Seeburgh 100 C , 45 RPM Juke Box > > > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&item=330010574620&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 > > > > > > http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a276/vintagecoinopclassics/1952%20Seeburgh%20100%20C/ > > > Article: 338424 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Welcome to our SPAM Date: 29 Jul 2006 15:37:43 -0700 Message-ID: <1154212663.354571.264310@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1154184872.849316.50910@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > lanpeng@lanvs.com wrote: > > > Nothing to see here! Move along! > > > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida I was just gonna ignore them, do something new...oh well Article: 338425 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO AMP-400 WATTS/CHANNEL-$275 Date: 29 Jul 2006 15:39:48 -0700 Message-ID: <1154212788.765088.162810@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl wrote: > > > > In rec.antiques.radio+phono Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > > Be sure to tune in at the same time next week for a brand new episode > > > of "Troll vs Troll"! > > > > You mean, the hourly show? ;-) > > > > -- > > Met vriendelijke groet, > > > > Maarten Bakker. > > > No, those are the re-runs. :( I don't have cable or TV Land. Article: 338426 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" References: <13057-44CB6573-216@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <1154194541.127573.281020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <44cba717$0$2924$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <%hRyg.13751$PN4.11058@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:42:07 -0400 Message-ID: <44cbe43c$0$2913$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "jim menning" wrote in message news:%hRyg.13751$PN4.11058@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "clfe" wrote in message > news:44cba717$0$2924$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net... >> >> >> You do have to wonder - if you can send a 10 pound box of "papers" for >> say $5, why can't you send a 10 pound box of "electronics" for that - >> insured? > > You may have to go back to why the "media rate" class was created. I read > somewhere that the "book rate" was created to further education & reading > in America, and as such was given a discount to help achieve that goal. > It's probably a similar logic behind the media rate. > > Another difference is that media rate is delivered with much less priority > than other parcel classes. If they can get to it when they have time, or > when they have room on the truck rather than getting it delivered in just > a few days, they probably save money in many cases, allowing them to > charge less. > > > This makes "some" sense. Media is slower but not that bad. So, why couldn't they create a "slower" cheaper regular item rate? They could increase business if they did that or lessened their rates a tad. Used to be, they were the ONLY commodity for mailing/shipping - not so - anymore. IF they chopped their rates DOWN a bit, more would go to them and they'd have more work than they could handle I think. Or maybe they don't want more? Article: 338427 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Date: 29 Jul 2006 15:44:37 -0700 Message-ID: <1154213077.660371.184010@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: clfe wrote: > "Dave" wrote in message > news:1154194541.127573.281020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > > > Bill Turner wrote: > >> WITH USPS I WOULD HAVE TO BOX THEM WHICH IS BEYOND MY CAPABILITY. > > > > Could your friend take them to some other mailing service, ie. Mail > > Boxes Etc? The media mail rate is a significant discount. I had > > several old automotive manuals I sold thru Ebay and some them were 10 > > pounds plus. I got some funny looks at the post office but shipping > > was CHEAP. > > > > The "Funny looks" may have been a question as to contents. I used to send > quite a few things out (media of course) via Media Mail. One day me and the > postal clerk got into a pissing match. She threatened to open the package if > I didn't come clean. I told her what was in it and dared her to do so - I > didn't have to worry about her finding other than I stated. THEN she tried > to say what I was shipping was NOT permissible. I challenged her to show me > in her manual. She searched for 10 minutes and could NOT come up with > anything to say my stuff was NOT "media". Then she said - it is a gray area. > I said - maybe so but unless it definatively says NO - you have to go > through with it. Oh and it "was" "printed" material. AND along these lines, > I've also been told some people were busted trying to ship out "electronics" > or other items via "media" mail. So, at least around here - they're getting > pretty particular and doubtful as to contents. > > You do have to wonder - if you can send a 10 pound box of "papers" for say > $5, why can't you send a 10 pound box of "electronics" for that - insured? I > mean - you could argue the electronics are expensive to replace - but lets > face it - if you're shipping irreplaceable books/manifests - whats the > difference in value? > > Just my 2 cents...... > > Lou With the price of fuel and the boat they get stuck in only being able to raise postage rates once in a while unlike the competition, and everyone sending everything the cheapest way now that things are stupid beyond compare and rising... wouldn't you expect that, I mean very respectfully. Their can of worms has a big hole in it. Article: 338428 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" References: <13057-44CB6573-216@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <1154194541.127573.281020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <44cba717$0$2924$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 18:49:46 -0400 Message-ID: <44cbe607$0$2935$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "jakdedert" wrote in message news:RmPyg.12823$v6.1740@bignews1.bellsouth.net... > clfe wrote: >> "Dave" wrote in message >> news:1154194541.127573.281020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >>> Bill Turner wrote: >>>> WITH USPS I WOULD HAVE TO BOX THEM WHICH IS BEYOND MY CAPABILITY. >>> Could your friend take them to some other mailing service, ie. Mail >>> Boxes Etc? The media mail rate is a significant discount. I had >>> several old automotive manuals I sold thru Ebay and some them were 10 >>> pounds plus. I got some funny looks at the post office but shipping >>> was CHEAP. >>> >> >> The "Funny looks" may have been a question as to contents. I used to send >> quite a few things out (media of course) via Media Mail. One day me and >> the postal clerk got into a pissing match. She threatened to open the >> package if I didn't come clean. I told her what was in it and dared her >> to do so - I didn't have to worry about her finding other than I stated. >> THEN she tried to say what I was shipping was NOT permissible. I >> challenged her to show me in her manual. She searched for 10 minutes and >> could NOT come up with anything to say my stuff was NOT "media". Then she >> said - it is a gray area. I said - maybe so but unless it definatively >> says NO - you have to go through with it. Oh and it "was" "printed" >> material. AND along these lines, I've also been told some people were >> busted trying to ship out "electronics" or other items via "media" mail. >> So, at least around here - they're getting pretty particular and doubtful >> as to contents. >> >> You do have to wonder - if you can send a 10 pound box of "papers" for >> say $5, why can't you send a 10 pound box of "electronics" for that - >> insured? I mean - you could argue the electronics are expensive to >> replace - but lets face it - if you're shipping irreplaceable >> books/manifests - whats the difference in value? > > I'd say it was the difference in what would happen if you tossed a 10 lb. > box of papers on a conveyor belt, vs. 10 lbs of electronic equipment. > Nothing delicate about paper, providing the box itself doesn't burst, it's > gonna come out fine. > > 10 lbs. of electronics, OTOH..... > >> >> Just my 2 cents...... >> >> Lou I'll agree to a point. OTOH as you say, I've seen some piss poor packaging of books AND equipment. I had some SAMS sent to me and if they had to go overseas, they wouldn't have made the trip much farther - the box was busting at the seams. I've sent 10 lbs worth of electronics packed so well there was no shake. It's all in the packing - too! Many either don't take the time to do a good job - don't know how to pack (some people don't have it in them) - OR plain do not care how it is sent out. Pack it right, they won't know the difference between 10 lbs of books or electronics - unless they open for inspection or you have to all the sudden claim it for insurance due to it's being lost or destroyed. IN that event, I'd rather not be having to answer questions. Funny story of UPS - My ex mother in law was in ceramics yeears ago. She sent a big box of glassware and ceramic items out from the local UPS site to her family out of state for christmas. She "felt" she packed it nice and tight. Thank goodness she did. She told them there was glass in the box, but they picked it up and gave it a heave ho and away it went - flying into the corner. MAN was she mad...... BUT - she did a good job packing, the glass and ceramics made it all as they should have. Article: 338429 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 19:00:13 -0400 Message-ID: <12cnq3vpmjps050@corp.supernews.com> References: <13057-44CB6573-216@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <1154194541.127573.281020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <44cba717$0$2924$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <%hRyg.13751$PN4.11058@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <44cbe43c$0$2913$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "clfe" wrote in message news:44cbe43c$0$2913$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net... > Or maybe they don't want more? > You guys crack me up. I've been home all afternoon with two attentive dogs listening and NO one has come to the door. But the USPS website says "We attempted to deliver your item at 2:15 pm". Truth is it's been YEARS since a Postal employee knocked on my door. I'm thinking of simply never getting insurance because if I do they NEVER EVER EVER get out of that truck , they just put a notice in the box by the road ten feet away. Uninsured mail is left happily on the porch though. Any losses would be well worth it to prevent the aggravation of having to now pick it up. Our local post office closes at 4:30 pm and for lunch. John H. Article: 338430 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <44CBDD71.C5D1ADDB@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Odd hum,,, help Message-ID: Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 16:15:45 -0700 No I dont, but I might have it on my work computer.... Its a nice bakelite am fm in the machine age style.... I know that will not help much,,,, but ..... bob "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44CBDD71.C5D1ADDB@earthlink.net... > Bob in Phx wrote: >> >> I am working on an Wards AM FM table radio. There is a hum,, but before >> you >> go suspecting the filter caps, I have already changed them out. The hum >> is >> fast, not like a 60 cyl hum. I have also taken every single tube out, to >> the >> bare chassis and the hum is still there!!!!!!!!!!! Any suggestions???? >> >> wards model 15wg 1545b >> >> thanks in advance >> >> bob in phx > > > Do you have a link to the schematic, or can you post it on > news:alt.binaries.pictures.radio ? > > > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 338431 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <13057-44CB6573-216@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <1154194541.127573.281020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <44cba717$0$2924$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <%hRyg.13751$PN4.11058@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <44cbe43c$0$2913$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Message-ID: <65Syg.13752$PN4.2180@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 23:22:42 GMT "clfe" wrote in message news:44cbe43c$0$2913$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net... > > > > This makes "some" sense. Media is slower but not that bad. So, why couldn't they > create a "slower" cheaper regular item rate? > More slower service results in more storage space needed. That may negate any savings for the USPS. As it is now, they may in many locations pile up media mail until they have a full truckload, and then ship it off to sorting centers. Article: 338432 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clfe" References: <13057-44CB6573-216@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <1154194541.127573.281020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <44cba717$0$2924$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <%hRyg.13751$PN4.11058@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <44cbe43c$0$2913$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <12cnq3vpmjps050@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 19:35:59 -0400 Message-ID: <44cbf0dd$0$2922$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "Hagstar" wrote in message news:12cnq3vpmjps050@corp.supernews.com... > > "clfe" wrote in message > news:44cbe43c$0$2913$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net... > >> Or maybe they don't want more? >> > > You guys crack me up. I've been home all afternoon with two attentive dogs > listening and NO one has come to the door. But the USPS website says "We > attempted to deliver your item at 2:15 pm". Truth is it's been YEARS since > a Postal employee knocked on my door. > > I'm thinking of simply never getting insurance because if I do they NEVER > EVER EVER get out of that truck , they just put a notice in the box by the > road ten feet away. Uninsured mail is left happily on the porch though. > Any losses would be well worth it to prevent the aggravation of having to > now pick it up. Our local post office closes at 4:30 pm and for lunch. > > John H. > I can assure you that won't happen here. We get "box" delivery. AND if your Post Office Box number isn't on your mail you may not get it. I don't care if they know you or not. AND in this small town - most everyone knows everyone. Now - a friend of mine in Pittsburgh - gets a card in her mail once in a while which says that. Problem is, she has to wait to Saturday to go to the Post Office as she works all day - 5 days a week. Our post office closes from 12 Noon to 1 PM for lunch - you can't even go in to get your mail - even if you don't need anything at the window. That sucks.... The one up the street - less than a mile away - you can get mail or drop off mail during their lunch break. Lou Article: 338433 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: 45 RPM ,Elvis and Beatles Themed 1952 Seeburg 100 C ,Juke Box, Rochester,NY Date: 29 Jul 2006 16:37:54 -0700 Message-ID: <1154216274.514968.271500@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Or if someone in this newsgroup wasn't so self endulgent, present company not included. Steven wrote: > You wouldn't be sleepy if you used it for an alarm clock. > > RadioGary wrote: > > yawn > > > > > > > > > > > > Gary Tayman wrote: > > > Uh, excuse me, did you say 1952? > > > > > > With Elvis and the Beatles? > > > > > > I'm not sure when the Seeburg 100 first came out; I know they were in use in > > > the mid 1950's -- > > > > > > However Elvis didn't have any hits until 1956, and the Beatles were unknown > > > in this country until 1964. What's inside this jukebox -- a crystal ball? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > > > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > > > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > > > > > > "woodrails" wrote in message > > > news:1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > > Auction ends wedneday afternoon at around 6pm, Real nice working Elvis > > > > and Beatles themed 1952 Seeburgh 100 C , 45 RPM Juke Box > > > > > > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=014&item=330010574620&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 > > > > > > > > http://s13.photobucket.com/albums/a276/vintagecoinopclassics/1952%20Seeburgh%20100%20C/ > > > > Article: 338434 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Rocking Tuning Gang Alignment From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1154196542.647339.150530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <2XSyg.864792$084.315086@attbi_s22> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 00:20:14 GMT In article <1154196542.647339.150530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, davall@yahoo.com says... > > > >Could som e review the whole alignment process again? How does the >alignment "come back"? > You have it correct... IF then top end at 1500 or whatever the instructions tell you... then the 600 padder .. leave the signal generator at 600 ... grab dial and screwdriver both at same time... turn knob... turn screwdriver watching at same time your output indicator... meter hooked up to AVC line ... or your ears... meter is better than any ears... back and forth between the knob and the screwdriver until you can't get any more out of it.... then notice in the instructions it said.... now go back and Re-Do steps 5 and 6 ... the 1500 Khz one again ... I will add ... if your way off to start with you may have to go back to 600 a 2nd time and the 1500 for a third time ... the alignment comes back ... to being correct at both 600 and 1500 if you follow all instructions .. and the design of the coil / capacitor ratio and the dial is correct to start with... Now for a little RANT ... there are signal generators out there.. and then there are real signal generators out there... some of the old cheap ones have ZERO.. NADA ... not the first adjustment inside that box.. particularily some of the "Kit" units .. some Heathkits.. some Eico's... this is NOT a problem if you have a digital accurate frequency reader attached to the Elcheapo Signal Generator... the last 3 of these None Adjustable units I checked.. at 455 Khz they were off at least 20 Khz ... That will hose up your ability to make your radio track and you never will get 600 and 1500 to match the dial... --------------- Next ... another method that works well to set the 600 adjustment padder in your radio.. if you have a soldering station or any other device that is a broad band racket maker .. if you have one you know it... with this soldering station setting close to the antenna leaad into your radio... put radio on 600 and adjust the screw for max signal noise... no need to rock the dial as the broadband noise from the soldering station is the same at 570 and 600 and 630 ... John k9uwa Article: 338435 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <%Hmyg.12454$4c7.1711@tornado.southeast.rr.com> Subject: Re: CQ Paula Message-ID: <5jVyg.49558$uG1.362813@wagner.videotron.net> Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 22:03:35 -0400 "Carroll Senn" wrote in message news:%Hmyg.12454$4c7.1711@tornado.southeast.rr.com... >I was cleaning up some old stored NG files and came across a post from >Paula Wood in Texas, aka LILMOUSE. Anyone hear from her lately or know >anything of her whereabouts? > > > -- > Carroll Senn > Columbia, SC She shows up from time to time on the Antique Radios Forum. I saw her post maybe a month ago. Syl Article: 338436 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Free Saturday: Oscope w/ 4.5" CRT Date: 29 Jul 2006 20:13:47 -0700 Message-ID: <1154229227.697593.55840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I got this along with some other junque I rescued, thought someone might be able to use it. I know some of the old CRTs are rare, altho this one does not appear especially special. It's a Bell & Howell Model 34 with DeVry Inst. of Tech. also on the badge. CRT is about 4-1/2" , round, 12 pins, looks like the label fell off long ago so no ID. Looks like a cheapie oscope, and the power xmfr is missing. If anyone wants the whole thing or just the CRT, I'll send it to you for shipping cost. Maybe it's common as dirt, but I thought I'd offer. Tox Article: 338437 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: OT: Boon-Ga! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 04:01:55 GMT Ok, I run across some pretty strange things from time to time, but this one pretty much takes the cake. http://www.wired.com/news/games/0,2101,48438,00.html Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 338438 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 References: <13057-44CB6573-216@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <1154194541.127573.281020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <44cba717$0$2924$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Message-ID: <8eWyg.139$%a1.111@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 04:05:24 GMT clfe wrote: > The "Funny looks" may have been a question as to contents. I used to send > quite a few things out (media of course) via Media Mail. One day me and the > postal clerk got into a pissing match. I put a 20 pound package on the counter at the US Postal Office and asked how much to ship. When they asked me what was in it, I said, "Magazines." "Oh, no problem, MEDIA MAIL." I didn't have the heart to make the clerk feel bad by explaining that when I said magazines, I meant it was about 50 seven round magazines for a colt .45 auto. Cheapest rate I ever got. ;-) Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 338439 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44CC3691.27414323@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 References: <13057-44CB6573-216@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <1154194541.127573.281020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <44cba717$0$2924$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <8eWyg.139$%a1.111@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 04:34:19 GMT Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > clfe wrote: > > The "Funny looks" may have been a question as to contents. I used to send > > quite a few things out (media of course) via Media Mail. One day me and the > > postal clerk got into a pissing match. > > I put a 20 pound package on the counter at the US Postal Office > and asked how much to ship. When they asked me what was in it, I > said, "Magazines." > > "Oh, no problem, MEDIA MAIL." I didn't have the heart to make the > clerk feel bad by explaining that when I said magazines, I meant > it was about 50 seven round magazines for a colt .45 auto. > > Cheapest rate I ever got. ;-) > > Jeff Its a good thing they didn't damage that package. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 338440 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: reed.d.lincoln@gmail.com Subject: WTB: General Electric J-105 Date: 29 Jul 2006 22:17:48 -0700 Message-ID: <1154236668.112519.208310@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject says it all. Would like to buy a working and/or restored General Electric J-105. Will pick up anywhere in the Michigan region. Article: 338441 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 45 RPM ,Elvis and Beatles Themed 1952 Seeburg 100 C ,Juke Box, Rochester,NY Date: 29 Jul 2006 22:18:22 -0700 Message-ID: <1154236702.923728.46740@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> RadioGary wrote: > Or if someone in this newsgroup wasn't so self endulgent, present > company not included. I'm present company, and I really don't know what you mean. However, at 48.00 est for a quad Pioneer 2.00 for a Pioneer dual cassette with Dolby B/C, auto tape selector, program search, fluorescent display and touch controls but just a liitle ugly, working 25.00 for a great Pioneer PD-4550 CD player around 20.00 for a Sansui audio program timer and 2.00 for a mahogany two-door early 1950s 12-15" TV/Radio/add-on phono console, 5.00 Hi-Fi VCR, 35.00 Trinitron and 35.00 Sony DVD player (oh yes, 3.50 NIB Radio Shack 4-input S-video capable switch, 25.00 Sansui direct drive turntable and a Free 12" Trinitron)... Self-indulgence in that ain't much of a hassle, add one QUARTER for Optimus towers and less than 20.00 in a lot for the UTAH 3-ways. Something with a Z is getting closer! Article: 338442 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Black Dial and bluebird Date: 29 Jul 2006 22:22:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1154236973.586261.126100@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1153952283.300964.3230@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> The seller of the Zenith 10S690 agreed to have shipping refigured for the chassis and related parts Monday. Article: 338443 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Date: 29 Jul 2006 22:29:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1154237341.385988.159680@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: jim menning wrote: > "Dave" wrote in message > news:1154194541.127573.281020@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > > > Bill Turner wrote: > >> WITH USPS I WOULD HAVE TO BOX THEM WHICH IS BEYOND MY CAPABILITY. > > > > Could your friend take them to some other mailing service, ie. Mail > > Boxes Etc? The media mail rate is a significant discount. I had > > several old automotive manuals I sold thru Ebay and some them were 10 > > pounds plus. I got some funny looks at the post office but shipping > > was CHEAP. > > > > What's the difference between the UPS Store & Mailboxes Etc,? I thought they merged > a while back. Don't they both use other carriers as well as UPS? Contact them > directly and see if they will package and mail via "media mail". > > The UPS Store # 5443 > 498 S 5TH ST > ST. CHARLES, MO 63301 - USA > Phone: (636)940-0664 > > > The UPS Store # 0241 > 2025 ZUMBEHL RD > SAINT CHARLES, MO 63303 - USA > Phone: (636)947-8870 They did I believe also, and FedEx launched a partnership with Kinko's, a business copy store chain. Article: 338444 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Odd hum,,, help Message-ID: References: <44CBDD71.C5D1ADDB@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:49:48 GMT >No I dont, but I might have it on my work computer.... > >Its a nice bakelite am fm in the machine age style.... >I know that will not help much,,,, but ..... > >bob >"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message >news:44CBDD71.C5D1ADDB@earthlink.net... >> Bob in Phx wrote: >>> >>> I am working on an Wards AM FM table radio. There is a hum,, but before >>> you >>> go suspecting the filter caps, I have already changed them out. The hum >>> is >>> fast, not like a 60 cyl hum. I have also taken every single tube out, to >>> the >>> bare chassis and the hum is still there!!!!!!!!!!! Any suggestions???? >>> >>> wards model 15wg 1545b >>> >>> thanks in advance >>> >>> bob in phx >> I seem to remember having a similar hum in a Zenith 7H822 set that used a selenium rectifier. I think it turned out to be the line bypass cap, and possibly the cap that shunts the OPT primary. Gordon Richmond Article: 338445 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DavidMaugans@msn.com Subject: Re: FA: AKAI CR-83D 8 TRACK STEREO TAPE PLAYER RECORDER EXC condition Date: 30 Jul 2006 02:27:57 -0700 Message-ID: <1154251677.093079.60820@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> I was over at the Salvation Army over at Joplin, MO. I found a few tapes. Woodstock II, 55 Original Hits, part one and two, two copies of This is the Moody Blues, a mystery tape, no cover, which was Steppenwolf Greatests HIts, Three Dog NIght, Their Greatest HIts. Outside that Salvation Army sits one of those portable ad signs. It says something like this. 8-Tracks, Cassettes, Records-50 cents. How many SA have ads like that outside there store? Is that cool or what? Rowdy wrote: > Great classic deck, for more info: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110014426951 Article: 338446 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "duty-honor-country" Subject: Re: FA: AKAI CR-83D 8 TRACK STEREO TAPE PLAYER RECORDER EXC condition Date: 30 Jul 2006 03:43:14 -0700 Message-ID: <1154256194.779198.139000@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> DavidMaugans@msn.com wrote: > I was over at the Salvation Army over at Joplin, MO. I found a few > tapes. Woodstock II, 55 Original Hits, part one and two, two copies of > This is the Moody Blues, a mystery tape, no cover, which was > Steppenwolf Greatests HIts, Three Dog NIght, Their Greatest HIts. > Outside that Salvation Army sits one of those portable ad signs. It > says something like this. 8-Tracks, Cassettes, Records-50 cents. How > many SA have ads like that outside there store? Is that cool or what? > Rowdy wrote: > > Great classic deck, for more info: > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110014426951 smart store manager- he/she knows that the old formats sell, and is advertising our stores don't have a sign- but I get 5 tapes for a buck here. Last haul was over 700 tapes. Article: 338447 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DavidMaugans@msn.com Subject: Re: NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO AMP-400 WATTS/CHANNEL-$275 Date: 30 Jul 2006 04:05:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1154257521.012167.266710@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Let's try something new. Let us all quit ripping each other and lets just talk about 8-tracks and players. I sent a a post earlier. I don't know what happened to it. I'll try again. I found a few tapes at the SA over at Joplin, MO. Woodstock II and others. Outside the store they have a portable display sign. It says something like this. 8-track, cassettes, records-50cents. Is that cool or what. I wish I had taken a picture of it. DeserTBoB wrote: > On 29 Jul 2006 09:40:47 GMT, maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl wrote: > > >Met vriendelijke groet, > > De strond has frappe de grolen! Article: 338448 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Art's Antique Radios" References: Subject: Re: Boon-Ga! Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 07:02:26 -0500 Message-ID: definitely weird and all references seem to be from 2001 Wonder if it was for real? "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:TaWyg.467$Ta6.157@tornado.socal.rr.com... > Ok, I run across some pretty strange things from time to time, > but this one pretty much takes the cake. > > http://www.wired.com/news/games/0,2101,48438,00.html > > Jeff > > -- > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 338449 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "marty" Subject: grundig 3059 Date: 30 Jul 2006 05:46:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1154263570.512422.192940@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> I just recently subscribed to the radio list and would like to ask for your help. I have read as much info as possible and have come to an impasse. I purchased a non-functioinng Grundig 3059 from a salvage shop. Cabinet and chassis appear to be a good shape. Both appear stock and unmolested. Blown 6a fuse. I cleaned the contacts with Deoxit and the pots and switches with Radio Shack TV tuner cleaner. Replaced the power cord and fuse. With the set turned "on", dial lights came on brightly but there was no sound or hum of any kind, regardless of combination of settings. I shut the unit off. I recapped the radio, replacing the paper caps, plus the electrolytics. Same result - inidcator lamps light up but there is no sound. (I could not find another automobile style fuse apart from the 6a. Unit refers to only one 6a "sicherung") I have referred the schematic. What would you suggest next? Have the tubes tested? Other keywords items I have to research.... -matchbox selenium rectifiers -power resistors -wirewound power resistors -amplifier circuits I have to decide whether to keep poking away at this unit, or have it serviced by a specialist. Thanks in advance, Marty Roach Article: 338450 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 08:21:22 -0500 Subject: Re: grundig 3059 From: John Stone Message-ID: References: <1154263570.512422.192940@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> On 7/30/06 7:46 AM, in article 1154263570.512422.192940@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com, "marty" wrote: > I just recently subscribed to the radio list and would like to ask for > your help. I have read as much info as possible and have come to an > impasse. > > I purchased a non-functioinng Grundig 3059 from a salvage shop. Cabinet > > and chassis appear to be a good shape. Both appear stock and > unmolested. > Blown 6a fuse. 6 amp???? Sorry, but that has to be wrong. More likely .6 amp. Please don't leave that fuse in there. > I cleaned the contacts with Deoxit and the pots and switches with > Radio Shack TV tuner cleaner. Replaced the power cord and fuse. With > the set turned "on", dial lights came on brightly but there was no > sound > or hum of any kind, regardless of combination of settings. I shut the > unit > off. > > I recapped the radio, replacing the paper caps, plus the electrolytics. > Same result - inidcator lamps light up but there is no sound. (I could > not > find another automobile style fuse apart from the 6a. Unit refers to > only > one 6a "sicherung") I have referred the schematic. > > What would you suggest next? Have the tubes tested? > It's strange to me that you would be able to change out all those components seemingly without knowing anything about troubleshooting. Given your error with the fuse value, I'm hoping you didn't get the cap values all wrong too. You do understand that electrolytics are polarized caps, and that you can't just jump new ones across the old ones? I'd suggest you carefully assess your own skills in being able to work on this radio. Hopefully you have done everything right in recapping it and not added even more problems, but there is no way to tell. You should be using common troubleshooting techniques such as measuring voltages in the radio and comparing to those listed on the schematic. If you can't follow a schematic diagram or don't know how to use a voltmeter, I'd leave it up to someone else to fix it. I'd also exercise extreme caution, as there are very high voltages inside that radio. Article: 338451 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 08:49:53 -0500 Message-ID: <7471-44CCB901-451@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <1154237341.385988.159680@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> THE FACT REMAINS THAT AFTER ALL THIS HOOPLA I STILL HAVE RIDERS 1-23 AVAILABLE FOR $300 CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 338452 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave" Subject: Re: Rocking Tuning Gang Alignment Date: 30 Jul 2006 07:18:46 -0700 Message-ID: <1154269125.937605.215890@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: John, thanks for the whole procedure. That's the first time I've read exactly how to do a 2nd or even 3rd iteration. I guess I've always gotten acceptable performance but never really understood the padder adjustment. Article: 338453 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim DeClercq Subject: Re: Rocking Tuning Gang Alignment Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:34:21 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1154196542.647339.150530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <2XSyg.864792$084.315086@attbi_s22> Hello, Top posting. One source of random noise for alignment use, other than a soldering station, is FM interstation noise. Use that also for front-accessible level and bias adjustments on a tape deck. Works well. Jim John Goller, k9uwa writes: : In article <1154196542.647339.150530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, : davall@yahoo.com says... : > : > : > : >Could som e review the whole alignment process again? How does the : >alignment "come back"? : > : You have it correct... IF then top end at 1500 or whatever the instructions : tell you... then the 600 padder .. : leave the signal generator at 600 ... grab dial and screwdriver both at same : time... turn knob... turn screwdriver watching at same time your output : indicator... meter hooked up to AVC line ... or your ears... meter is better : than any ears... back and forth between the knob and the screwdriver until : you can't get any more out of it.... : then notice in the instructions it said.... now go back and Re-Do steps : 5 and 6 ... the 1500 Khz one again ... : I will add ... if your way off to start with you may have to go back to 600 a : 2nd time and the 1500 for a third time ... : the alignment comes back ... to being correct at both 600 and 1500 if you : follow all instructions .. and the design of the coil / capacitor ratio and : the dial is correct to start with... : Now for a little RANT ... there are signal generators out there.. and then : there are real signal generators out there... some of the old cheap ones : have ZERO.. NADA ... not the first adjustment inside that box.. particularily : some of the "Kit" units .. some Heathkits.. some Eico's... this is NOT : a problem if you have a digital accurate frequency reader attached to the : Elcheapo Signal Generator... the last 3 of these None Adjustable units : I checked.. at 455 Khz they were off at least 20 Khz ... : That will hose up your ability to make your radio track and you never : will get 600 and 1500 to match the dial... : --------------- : Next ... another method that works well to set the 600 adjustment padder : in your radio.. if you have a soldering station or any other device that is a : broad band racket maker .. if you have one you know it... : with this soldering station setting close to the antenna leaad into your : radio... put radio on 600 and adjust the screw for max signal noise... no : need to rock the dial as the broadband noise from the soldering station is : the same at 570 and 600 and 630 ... : John k9uwa -- -- /"\ Jim DeClercq--jimd@panix.com--Sylvania, Ohio, USA \ / ASCII ribbon campaign | I'm a .signature virus! | X against HTML mail | Copy me into your ~/.signature| / \ and postings | to help me spread! | . Article: 338454 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: grundig 3059 References: <1154263570.512422.192940@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <1t4zg.4042$5H.861@dukeread06> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:43:56 -0400 We need an initial rating so people can give a fair assement of their knowledge on this subject. Sort of a scale like: A CEO B Beginner C Intermediate D Expert E Etc John Stone wrote: > On 7/30/06 7:46 AM, in article > 1154263570.512422.192940@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com, "marty" > wrote: > > >>I just recently subscribed to the radio list and would like to ask for >>your help. I have read as much info as possible and have come to an >>impasse. >> >>I purchased a non-functioinng Grundig 3059 from a salvage shop. Cabinet >> >>and chassis appear to be a good shape. Both appear stock and >>unmolested. >>Blown 6a fuse. > > > 6 amp???? Sorry, but that has to be wrong. More likely .6 amp. > Please don't leave that fuse in there. > >> I cleaned the contacts with Deoxit and the pots and switches with >>Radio Shack TV tuner cleaner. Replaced the power cord and fuse. With >>the set turned "on", dial lights came on brightly but there was no >>sound >>or hum of any kind, regardless of combination of settings. I shut the >>unit >>off. >> >>I recapped the radio, replacing the paper caps, plus the electrolytics. >>Same result - inidcator lamps light up but there is no sound. (I could >>not >>find another automobile style fuse apart from the 6a. Unit refers to >>only >>one 6a "sicherung") I have referred the schematic. >> >>What would you suggest next? Have the tubes tested? >> > > It's strange to me that you would be able to change out all those components > seemingly without knowing anything about troubleshooting. Given your error > with the fuse value, I'm hoping you didn't get the cap values all wrong too. > You do understand that electrolytics are polarized caps, and that you can't > just jump new ones across the old ones? > I'd suggest you carefully assess your own skills in being able to work on > this radio. Hopefully you have done everything right in recapping it and not > added even more problems, but there is no way to tell. You should be using > common troubleshooting techniques such as measuring voltages in the radio > and comparing to those listed on the schematic. If you can't follow a > schematic diagram or don't know how to use a voltmeter, I'd leave it up to > someone else to fix it. I'd also exercise extreme caution, as there are very > high voltages inside that radio. > Article: 338455 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "marty" Subject: Re: grundig 3059 Date: 30 Jul 2006 08:46:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1154274370.168377.248540@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1154263570.512422.192940@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> John: Thanks for writing. Fuse error was bonehead on my part. That probably raises a host of issues on its own since I am familiar with the fx of using fuses that are too high. I removed the old capacitors and replaced them, I didn't bridge them. Electrolytic capacitors are polarised. Got that. I read some articles on capacitors, among them - http://antiqueradio.org/recap.htm#follow http://www.justradios.com/captips.html Recapping is supposed to be a useful repair since all of the resto shops that have websites refer to replacing old capacitors as part of restoring them. I regularly deal with automotive wiring diagrams so I can check continuity, resistance, isolation, voltage drop, short circuits, etc. However, I have no illusions about my ability to fix this radio. I would prefer not to get electrocuted nor burn the house down. I was hoping that there could be some other issue to check before dropping it off at a specialist. Thanks, MAR I have written to some radio resto places about fixing this radio. Only one of them responded. John Stone wrote: > On 7/30/06 7:46 AM, in article > 1154263570.512422.192940@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com, "marty" > wrote: > > > I just recently subscribed to the radio list and would like to ask for > > your help. I have read as much info as possible and have come to an > > impasse. > > > > I purchased a non-functioinng Grundig 3059 from a salvage shop. Cabinet > > > > and chassis appear to be a good shape. Both appear stock and > > unmolested. > > Blown 6a fuse. > > 6 amp???? Sorry, but that has to be wrong. More likely .6 amp. > Please don't leave that fuse in there. > > I cleaned the contacts with Deoxit and the pots and switches with > > Radio Shack TV tuner cleaner. Replaced the power cord and fuse. With > > the set turned "on", dial lights came on brightly but there was no > > sound > > or hum of any kind, regardless of combination of settings. I shut the > > unit > > off. > > > > I recapped the radio, replacing the paper caps, plus the electrolytics. > > Same result - inidcator lamps light up but there is no sound. (I could > > not > > find another automobile style fuse apart from the 6a. Unit refers to > > only > > one 6a "sicherung") I have referred the schematic. > > > > What would you suggest next? Have the tubes tested? > > > It's strange to me that you would be able to change out all those components > seemingly without knowing anything about troubleshooting. Given your error > with the fuse value, I'm hoping you didn't get the cap values all wrong too. > You do understand that electrolytics are polarized caps, and that you can't > just jump new ones across the old ones? > I'd suggest you carefully assess your own skills in being able to work on > this radio. Hopefully you have done everything right in recapping it and not > added even more problems, but there is no way to tell. You should be using > common troubleshooting techniques such as measuring voltages in the radio > and comparing to those listed on the schematic. If you can't follow a > schematic diagram or don't know how to use a voltmeter, I'd leave it up to > someone else to fix it. I'd also exercise extreme caution, as there are very > high voltages inside that radio. Article: 338456 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:13:07 -0500 Subject: Re: grundig 3059 From: John Stone Message-ID: References: <1154263570.512422.192940@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154274370.168377.248540@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> On 7/30/06 10:46 AM, in article 1154274370.168377.248540@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com, "marty" wrote: > > > I was hoping that there could be some other issue to check before > dropping it off at a specialist. > > Thanks, > > MAR > > > > I have written to some radio resto places about fixing this radio. > Only one of them responded. > > Marty, I'm not totally familiar with this model but would assume it is pretty much garden variety. If you can use a voltmeter, check the voltages between positive and ground of the electrolytic caps. The voltage should be around 250-300 volts dc. There is usually a 3 watt power resistor, usually around 1.3 k ohm between the 2 filter sections that can fail, giving voltage on one cap but not the other. The other thing to check is the resistor in the cathode of the output tube (pin 3 if the output is an EL84,pin 2 for an EL95) Usually these are supposed to be somewhere around 200 ohms, and will often open up when you have a leaky coupling cap to the grid. This radio probably has a tuning eye, and if that doesn't light up, I'd look at the 1.3K power resistor first. Article: 338457 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Odd hum,,, help Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:41:46 -0400 "Bob in Phx" wrote in message news:W%Qyg.17194$Nv.5957@fed1read10... >I am working on an Wards AM FM table radio. There is a hum,, but before you >go suspecting the filter caps, I have already changed them out. The hum is >fast, not like a 60 cyl hum. I have also taken every single tube out, to >the bare chassis and the hum is still there!!!!!!!!!!! Any suggestions???? > > > wards model 15wg 1545b > > thanks in advance > > bob in phx Let me get this straight, you removed ALL the tubes, plugged the radio in and the hum is still there ? If that is the fact, I can't see how hum can come out of the speaker with no output tube and no rectifier...Unless I am missing something ? Syl Article: 338458 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: grundig 3059 References: <1154263570.512422.192940@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154274370.168377.248540@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:54:01 -0400 Also check the output tube plate for voltage, the xfmr could be open. Then touch the control grid with an insulated screw driver, you should hear hum or noise. Work back to the vol control from there. Watch those plate voltages, they'll make you hurt yourself. Ken John Stone wrote: > On 7/30/06 10:46 AM, in article > 1154274370.168377.248540@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com, "marty" > wrote: > > >> >>I was hoping that there could be some other issue to check before >>dropping it off at a specialist. >> >>Thanks, >> >>MAR >> >> >> >>I have written to some radio resto places about fixing this radio. >>Only one of them responded. >> >> > > Marty, > I'm not totally familiar with this model but would assume it is pretty much > garden variety. If you can use a voltmeter, check the voltages between > positive and ground of the electrolytic caps. The voltage should be around > 250-300 volts dc. There is usually a 3 watt power resistor, usually around > 1.3 k ohm between the 2 filter sections that can fail, giving voltage on one > cap but not the other. The other thing to check is the resistor in the > cathode of the output tube (pin 3 if the output is an EL84,pin 2 for an > EL95) Usually these are supposed to be somewhere around 200 ohms, and will > often open up when you have a leaky coupling cap to the > grid. This radio probably has a tuning eye, and if that doesn't light up, > I'd look at the 1.3K power resistor first. > Article: 338459 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: 45 RPM ,Elvis and Beatles Themed 1952 Seeburg 100 C ,Juke Box, Rochester,NY Date: 30 Jul 2006 10:03:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1154278993.028111.188370@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1153892001.328361.213990@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Do you have one special day in your neighborhood when you put out all the large trash items? You may want to consider that as your alternative. Steven wrote: > RadioGary wrote: > > Or if someone in this newsgroup wasn't so self endulgent, present > > company not included. > > I'm present company, and I really don't know what you mean. > > However, at 48.00 est for a quad Pioneer > > 2.00 for a Pioneer dual cassette with Dolby B/C, auto tape selector, > program search, fluorescent display and touch controls but just a > liitle ugly, working > > 25.00 for a great Pioneer PD-4550 CD player > > around 20.00 for a Sansui audio program timer and 2.00 for a mahogany > two-door early 1950s 12-15" TV/Radio/add-on phono console, 5.00 Hi-Fi > VCR, 35.00 Trinitron and 35.00 Sony DVD player (oh yes, 3.50 NIB Radio > Shack 4-input S-video capable switch, 25.00 Sansui direct drive > turntable and a Free 12" Trinitron)... > > Self-indulgence in that ain't much of a hassle, add one QUARTER for > Optimus towers and less than 20.00 in a lot for the UTAH 3-ways. > > Something with a Z is getting closer! Article: 338460 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:17:56 -0400 From: Stewart Schooley Subject: Re: CQ Paula References: <%Hmyg.12454$4c7.1711@tornado.southeast.rr.com> <5jVyg.49558$uG1.362813@wagner.videotron.net> Message-ID: Syl wrote: > "Carroll Senn" wrote in message > news:%Hmyg.12454$4c7.1711@tornado.southeast.rr.com... Syl, I think this is the gal of whom I once thought, "no one will ever call her Short Post Paula." Not putting her down with that comment, but she did tend to ramble. Stewart Article: 338461 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rob" Subject: Zenith console stereo for free in Milwaukee Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 17:25:52 GMT Older tube type, very good condition. Turntable drags a little - even after I spent $80 to have it fixed. AM-FM-FM Stereo, walnut finish that is in good shape. Belonged originally to a friend's grandmother. Includes owner's manual. I just don't have room for it. If anyone in the area is interested, all you have to do is pick it up. I have pictures I can send also. Article: 338462 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1154263570.512422.192940@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154274370.168377.248540@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: grundig 3059 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:34:43 -0400 Message-ID: John is absolutely right on here. I think the output tube circuit (6BQ5 probably) is where Marty's problem is. Leaky grid coupling caps often cause big issues here, and the cathode bias resistor, if there is one, is open. He needs to check the plate and screen voltages on that tube. The flat pack rectifier can easily be replaced with a modern bridge rectifier of about 600 PIV, 1A-2A or so. Mark Oppat "John Stone" wrote in message news:C0F244C3.51F0E%jmsent2@comcast.net... > > On 7/30/06 10:46 AM, in article > 1154274370.168377.248540@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com, "marty" > wrote: > > > > > > > I was hoping that there could be some other issue to check before > > dropping it off at a specialist. > > > > Thanks, > > > > MAR > > > > > > > > I have written to some radio resto places about fixing this radio. > > Only one of them responded. > > > > > Marty, > I'm not totally familiar with this model but would assume it is pretty much > garden variety. If you can use a voltmeter, check the voltages between > positive and ground of the electrolytic caps. The voltage should be around > 250-300 volts dc. There is usually a 3 watt power resistor, usually around > 1.3 k ohm between the 2 filter sections that can fail, giving voltage on one > cap but not the other. The other thing to check is the resistor in the > cathode of the output tube (pin 3 if the output is an EL84,pin 2 for an > EL95) Usually these are supposed to be somewhere around 200 ohms, and will > often open up when you have a leaky coupling cap to the > grid. This radio probably has a tuning eye, and if that doesn't light up, > I'd look at the 1.3K power resistor first. > > Article: 338463 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: Subject: Re: Odd hum,,, help Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 13:35:58 -0400 Message-ID: Mechanical buzz from the power tranny! Amplified by loose mounting to chassis. I havent had a really bad one in a long time, but it happens. Mark Oppat "Syl" wrote in message news:Hi5zg.6716$SE.54144@wagner.videotron.net... > > "Bob in Phx" wrote in message > news:W%Qyg.17194$Nv.5957@fed1read10... > >I am working on an Wards AM FM table radio. There is a hum,, but before you > >go suspecting the filter caps, I have already changed them out. The hum is > >fast, not like a 60 cyl hum. I have also taken every single tube out, to > >the bare chassis and the hum is still there!!!!!!!!!!! Any suggestions???? > > > > > > wards model 15wg 1545b > > > > thanks in advance > > > > bob in phx > > Let me get this straight, you removed ALL the tubes, plugged the radio in > and the hum is still there ? > > If that is the fact, I can't see how hum can come out of the speaker with no > output tube and > no rectifier...Unless I am missing something ? > > Syl > > > Article: 338464 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "philsvintageradios" Subject: Re: Reforming old electrolytics - yet more info Date: 30 Jul 2006 10:38:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1154281090.316491.4190@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1154207975.340766.54950@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> for some reason the page won't work for me, probably a acrobat glitch. phil Article: 338465 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "philsvintageradios" Subject: Re: bakalite tv in Connecticut Date: 30 Jul 2006 10:41:09 -0700 Message-ID: <1154281269.196552.19500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1154144314.653317.251490@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> ok bakelite , my typo..oops. Well it did go for ten bucks ! what a deal. Phil Article: 338466 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Reforming old electrolytics - yet more info Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:06:52 -0400 Message-ID: <12cpta3mt9kj409@news.supernews.com> References: <1154207975.340766.54950@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154281090.316491.4190@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> "philsvintageradios" wrote in message news:1154281090.316491.4190@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > for some reason the page won't work for me, probably a acrobat glitch. > phil Hey, Phil, do you Adobe Acrobat installed? The page is only a PDF file. Acrobat Reader is free, and definitely a "must have" these days. Frank Article: 338467 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: bakalite tv in Connecticut Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:08:07 -0400 Message-ID: <12cptcmncb8sc71@news.supernews.com> References: <1154144314.653317.251490@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154281269.196552.19500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> "philsvintageradios" wrote in message news:1154281269.196552.19500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > ok bakelite , my typo..oops. > Well it did go for ten bucks ! what a deal. > Phil It has to be the most often mis-spelled word in our hobby. Sorry to be a tease. Article: 338468 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "philsvintageradios" Subject: storing stuff in the attic Date: 30 Jul 2006 11:11:49 -0700 Message-ID: <1154283109.435788.238530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> like many collectors, or ones with a weak spot for "projects" like me, I am always looking for space. rather than take up more rooms. The insulation in the attic of this old house was filthy. after 82 years the 1 inch of insulation, had so much old dust in it. I rented a huge shop vac and cleaned everything out. I am re insulating now, and while I am at it , sheeting the floor. The house has an attic with two rooms up, one is small and has a big box in the middle where the stairs needed headroom, so that box will become my bench and it is a nice spot by the window to do restuffing , tuning etc. but a tiny room otherwise. there are (insulated )pony walls , and there is a triangular shaped space on either side of the living space. It is the floor in there that I am re insulating/ sheeting. it is about 15 sheets of plywood, so quite a bit of storage space. The pony walls are insulated and I made four openings I can crawl through. I will put insulated doors to get in there. I have heard that if you insulate right against the roof, that is bad for the roofing as it will cook the roof ( duride shingles) so I am not insulating there now. I will end up with a big space that is very dry, but subject to some big temperature swings. fans might help to keep the heat out in the summer months. I started thinking ,I wonder how many of the radios we work on have been stored for long periods of time in similar conditions, and how that affects the parts. I will dedicate a room downstairs to restored radios, but am wondering how damaging the heat/ cool swings are to the other stuff. Old chassis, and ones that need to be stripped and really gone over. I think the tubes can take it, and stuff won't rust, but if electrolytics freeze will it wreck them ? how about IF transformers? Phil Article: 338469 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "philsvintageradios" Subject: Re: Reforming old electrolytics - yet more info Date: 30 Jul 2006 11:17:47 -0700 Message-ID: <1154283467.195517.261220@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154207975.340766.54950@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Buck Frobisher wrote: > "philsvintageradios" wrote in message > news:1154281090.316491.4190@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > > for some reason the page won't work for me, probably a acrobat glitch. > > phil > > Hey, Phil, do you Adobe Acrobat installed? The page is only a PDF file. > Acrobat Reader is free, and definitely a "must have" these days. > > Frank ======== yes I have acrobat reader, I think it is something to do with the way my browser opens acrobat.. if I have a PDF file on my drive I can open it ok. phil. Article: 338470 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "duty-honor-country" Subject: Re: storing stuff in the attic Date: 30 Jul 2006 11:18:19 -0700 Message-ID: <1154283499.612569.54200@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1154283109.435788.238530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> philsvintageradios wrote: > like many collectors, or ones with a weak spot for "projects" like me, > I am always looking for space. rather than take up more rooms. > The insulation in the attic of this old house was filthy. after 82 > years the 1 inch of insulation, had so much old dust in it. I rented a > huge shop vac and cleaned everything out. > > I am re insulating now, and while I am at it , sheeting the floor. > The house has an attic with two rooms up, one is small and has a big > box in the middle where the stairs needed headroom, so that box will > become my bench and it is a nice spot by the window to do restuffing , > tuning etc. but a tiny room otherwise. > > there are (insulated )pony walls , and there is a triangular shaped > space on either side of the living space. It is the floor in there that > I am re insulating/ sheeting. it is about 15 sheets of plywood, so > quite a bit of storage space. The pony walls are insulated and I made > four openings I can crawl through. I will put insulated doors to get in > there. > > I have heard that if you insulate right against the roof, that is bad > for the roofing as it will cook the roof ( duride shingles) so I am not > insulating there now. > > I will end up with a big space that is very dry, but subject to some > big temperature swings. fans might help to keep the heat out in the > summer months. > I started thinking ,I wonder how many of the radios we work on have > been stored for long periods of time in similar conditions, and how > that affects the parts. I will dedicate a room downstairs to restored > radios, but am wondering how damaging the heat/ cool swings are to the > other stuff. Old chassis, and ones that need to be stripped and really > gone over. I think the tubes can take it, and stuff won't rust, but > if electrolytics freeze will it wreck them ? > how about IF transformers? > > Phil It would help to insulate against the roof- it will hold heat in better. You can always tell an old house that is not well insulated- the snow melts off the roof quickly in the winter. Newer homes that are well insulated, the snow stays there. Heat should not exit through the roof. Good luck with your storage/shop space project ! You can never have too many square feet. Article: 338471 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: storing stuff in the attic Date: 30 Jul 2006 11:32:02 -0700 Message-ID: <1154284322.725396.216410@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154283109.435788.238530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> philsvintageradios wrote: > I have heard that if you insulate right against the roof, that is bad > for the roofing as it will cook the roof ( duride shingles) so I am not > insulating there now. > > Phil On This Old House they use these thin plastic trough like things that you staple up against the inside of the roof between the trusses, before you put insulation. They make a 1" or so space between the roof and the insulation. At the top, they are open to the roof vents, and at the bottom, open to the soffit vents if you have them, or to the attic. Air goes up through them by thermal chimney effect, cooling the roof above. You might think about using those. Sounds like you're harvesting some great unused space! I just did my garage attic this spring. Too hot to work up there but great for storing all kinds of stuff. Tox Article: 338472 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave" Subject: Atwater Kent Model 40 Saved From Trash - For Sale Date: 30 Jul 2006 11:40:37 -0700 Message-ID: <1154284837.365427.312180@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Hello, I'm not a 1920's radio collector, but I saw a radio for sale at a yard sale that I knew would be in the trash the next day. It is an AK Model 40. The exterior of the case is very rusted (nearly all of the paint >from the top cover is gone), but there is still good sheet metal under that. Rodents have been in the radio, but they have left the wiring alone. All tubes in place - actually came with extra 807! Also with speaker. Anybody interested in the radio? I'd like to see it either back to life, or bringing another set back to life. I am in Lexington, MA - area collectors welcome to schedule an evening visit to see it. Email or call 617-966-0727. David Goncalves Article: 338473 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1154144314.653317.251490@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154281269.196552.19500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <12cptcmncb8sc71@news.supernews.com> Subject: Re: bakalite tv in Connecticut Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 11:47:41 -0700 Message-ID: > It has to be the most often mis-spelled word in our hobby. And it ought to be capitalized, like Mylar. It's a proper noun. Article: 338474 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Warren Weber" Subject: Zenith radios Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:55:28 -0600 Message-ID: Went to a yard sale yesterday. Person moving out of state. had several consoles and about 40 to 50 small sets. Not getting sales because of price. Owner said what don't sell will go to local auction. Don't know when. Will only find out when ad is in local paper. I did not buy any. May go to auction when held. Canon City CO. Warren -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 602 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try SPAMfighter for free now! Article: 338475 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: storing stuff in the attic References: <1154283109.435788.238530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154284322.725396.216410@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:25:59 -0500 toxcrusadr wrote: > philsvintageradios wrote: >> I have heard that if you insulate right against the roof, that is bad >> for the roofing as it will cook the roof ( duride shingles) so I am not >> insulating there now. >> >> Phil > > > On This Old House they use these thin plastic trough like things that > you staple up against the inside of the roof between the trusses, > before you put insulation. They make a 1" or so space between the roof > and the insulation. At the top, they are open to the roof vents, and > at the bottom, open to the soffit vents if you have them, or to the > attic. Air goes up through them by thermal chimney effect, cooling the > roof above. You might think about using those. > > Sounds like you're harvesting some great unused space! I just did my > garage attic this spring. Too hot to work up there but great for > storing all kinds of stuff. > Tox beat me to it. Those vents are available at Home Depot. In conjunction with 3" (or more) of styrofoam foam forced between the rafters will give a significant amount of insulation. The rafters themselves will then become the major conductor of heat to/from the structure. Covering those with another couple of inches will snug things up nicely. OTOH, fans and roof vents will also decrease the heat gain to the lower floors to a great degree...but not do much for winter losses. The main drawback to insulating between the rafters (IMO) is the need for a full length ridge vent. > Tox > > Article: 338476 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "philsvintageradios" Subject: Re: storing stuff in the attic Date: 30 Jul 2006 12:26:57 -0700 Message-ID: <1154287617.283775.237650@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154283109.435788.238530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> > On This Old House they use these thin plastic trough like things that > you staple up against the inside of the roof between the trusses, > before you put insulation. They make a 1" or so space between the roof > and the insulation. At the top, they are open to the roof vents, and > at the bottom, open to the soffit vents if you have them, or to the > attic. Air goes up through them by thermal chimney effect, cooling the > roof above. You might think about using those. > > Sounds like you're harvesting some great unused space! I just did my > garage attic this spring. Too hot to work up there but great for > storing all kinds of stuff. > > Tox the roof above the living space is insulated now, so I could put something to let air flow above the insulation at the sides of the attic, in the storage space, but I don't think I can get the plastic trough things between the roof and the insulation over the living space, so it won't work right if the heat can't get to the peak of the roof. I would have done it that way in heindsight,with a ridge vent, but I just had the whole living space drywalled so the ceiling above that area is pretty much inaccessable now. the drywallers didn't want to wait while I played around too much with that, but it was insulated there , for the past 50 years or so. Having the roof not insulated on the lower portions, that is over half the roof, and you can feel the heat coming into the space. the roofing will get a lot hotter if I insulate this area. I still might, will just need to do the roof again a bit sooner. it had new sheeting and duride about 7 yrs ago. I got a huge container of crap ot of there and the attic had panelling and an early type of particleboard on the walls , so it is much nicer and brighter up there now. took 40 sheets of gyproc including the drop ceiling that was in the kitchen on the main floor, and the walls behind the cabinets. I got that back to the orrigional 9 foot height. they had dropped it to 7' 6 or so. guess I am getting way O/T sorry.. I am rewiring the whole house too and putting outlets everywhere with 2 coax and network and phone. they all run back to their own panel. I can use the coax for running the antennna signal, or cablevision to any radio /tv in the house. I just will need to go to the panel and re route the antenna to the radio I want to play. I have one splitter ,and appropriate transformers for antenna to the 50 ohm cable. I will be able to have any two hooked to the antenna at a given time. the idea is then I can play any of my radios with a "real" antenna , without moving them about. the phone and network outlets will work in a similar manor, and reside in their panel, along with the router, etc. ,, all that junk will hide down in the cable/tv panelbox. one thing I found funny was that the spot where the radio bench is seems to have a real dead spot for reception. I was up there with a battery TO which works well. on the bench, it gets very poor reception. a foot to one side it gets good reception. almost all the wiring is turned off now, until we swap the main power lines over. so whatever makes the reception there so bad is nothing in the house. I invested in the 8 D cells for this battery TO. it has been playing for about 2 months now, almost never turn it off. the thing is great on battery life, I love it ! Phil Article: 338477 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Black Dial and bluebird From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1153952283.300964.3230@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154236973.586261.126100@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 19:45:44 GMT In article <1154236973.586261.126100@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, manyrumours@lycos.com says... > > >The seller of the Zenith 10S690 agreed to have shipping refigured for >the chassis and related parts Monday. > Yup those are the parts you need... John k9uwa Article: 338478 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Looking for Sparton 301 guts From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: <%38zg.1109376$xm3.1055171@attbi_s21> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 19:50:20 GMT In article , k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF says... > > >Looking for radios from Sparton 301 radios... would like to find >two of them one... the USA version and the other the Canadian >version ... not interested in cabinets.. just the chassis stuff >and speakers... >John k9uwa > Still looking for some Sparton 301 guts... anyone have a junker they are interested in parting with? John k9uwa Article: 338479 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: storing stuff in the attic Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 12:44:48 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1154283109.435788.238530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154283499.612569.54200@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> On 30 Jul 2006 11:18:19 -0700, "shirked duty-dishonor-cowardice" (who never served a day in the military) aka Charlie Nudo the Stream Bred Browneye of Drums, PA farted: >Good luck with your storage/shop space project ! You can never have >too many square feet. Hey ginzo boy! I bet you've got your house CRAMMED with crap you can't sell anymore on fraudBay, don't you? "Can never have too many square feet" is the "tell" there. Your fraudBay days are OVER as 66fourdoor. You couldn't sell water to the crew of the "Phoenix" anymore! Article: 338480 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Reforming old electrolytics - yet more info Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:07:19 -0400 Message-ID: <12cq4bs3dn1h54c@news.supernews.com> References: <1154207975.340766.54950@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154281090.316491.4190@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <12cpta3mt9kj409@news.supernews.com> <1154283467.195517.261220@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "philsvintageradios" wrote in message news:1154283467.195517.261220@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > Buck Frobisher wrote: >> "philsvintageradios" wrote in message >> news:1154281090.316491.4190@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... >> > for some reason the page won't work for me, probably a acrobat glitch. >> > phil >> >> Hey, Phil, do you Adobe Acrobat installed? The page is only a PDF file. >> Acrobat Reader is free, and definitely a "must have" these days. >> >> Frank > ======== > yes I have acrobat reader, I think it is something to do with the way > my browser opens acrobat.. if I have a PDF file on my drive I can open > it ok. > phil. Well, you could of course right-click on the link to the page and choose "save target as". This would result in a PDF file to save then read. Article: 338481 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: bakalite tv in Connecticut Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:08:31 -0400 Message-ID: <12cq4e3lggg39bc@news.supernews.com> References: <1154144314.653317.251490@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154281269.196552.19500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <12cptcmncb8sc71@news.supernews.com> "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:EZGdnYXNj9QpY1HZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> It has to be the most often mis-spelled word in our hobby. > > And it ought to be capitalized, like Mylar. It's a proper noun. If it is mis-spelled, should it still be capitalized? ;> Article: 338482 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: Zenith radios Date: 30 Jul 2006 13:18:04 -0700 Message-ID: <1154290684.053673.146680@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: Warren Weber wrote: > Went to a yard sale yesterday. Person moving out of state. had several > consoles and about 40 to 50 small sets. Not getting sales because of price. > Owner said what don't sell will go to local auction. Don't know when. Will > only find out when ad is in local paper. I did not buy any. May go to > auction when held. Canon City CO. Warren > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 602 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Try SPAMfighter for free now! Let me know when the auction happens. I might be able to drive down. I've seen local auctions like that end up almost giving away stuff if there's only a couple of collectors there. I went to an auction in Denver quite a few years back with Dave and there were 2 of us interested in the radio items. We mostly named our prices and walked off with lots of good stuff. Article: 338483 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: storing stuff in the attic References: <1154283109.435788.238530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 16:51:31 -0400 I would worry more about heat than cold. Heat ages everything, and look out plastic. It can curl your escutcheons and warp your cases. Ken philsvintageradios wrote: > like many collectors, or ones with a weak spot for "projects" like me, > I am always looking for space. rather than take up more rooms. > The insulation in the attic of this old house was filthy. after 82 > years the 1 inch of insulation, had so much old dust in it. I rented a > huge shop vac and cleaned everything out. > > I am re insulating now, and while I am at it , sheeting the floor. > The house has an attic with two rooms up, one is small and has a big > box in the middle where the stairs needed headroom, so that box will > become my bench and it is a nice spot by the window to do restuffing , > tuning etc. but a tiny room otherwise. > > there are (insulated )pony walls , and there is a triangular shaped > space on either side of the living space. It is the floor in there that > I am re insulating/ sheeting. it is about 15 sheets of plywood, so > quite a bit of storage space. The pony walls are insulated and I made > four openings I can crawl through. I will put insulated doors to get in > there. > > I have heard that if you insulate right against the roof, that is bad > for the roofing as it will cook the roof ( duride shingles) so I am not > insulating there now. > > I will end up with a big space that is very dry, but subject to some > big temperature swings. fans might help to keep the heat out in the > summer months. > I started thinking ,I wonder how many of the radios we work on have > been stored for long periods of time in similar conditions, and how > that affects the parts. I will dedicate a room downstairs to restored > radios, but am wondering how damaging the heat/ cool swings are to the > other stuff. Old chassis, and ones that need to be stripped and really > gone over. I think the tubes can take it, and stuff won't rust, but > if electrolytics freeze will it wreck them ? > how about IF transformers? > > Phil > Article: 338484 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44CD2407.9119CC38@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: bakalite tv in Connecticut References: <1154144314.653317.251490@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154281269.196552.19500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <12cptcmncb8sc71@news.supernews.com> <12cq4e3lggg39bc@news.supernews.com> Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:27:50 GMT Buck Frobisher wrote: > > "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message > news:EZGdnYXNj9QpY1HZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> It has to be the most often mis-spelled word in our hobby. > > > > And it ought to be capitalized, like Mylar. It's a proper noun. > > If it is mis-spelled, should it still be capitalized? > > ;> Only by a miscreant. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 338485 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: Subject: Re: Odd hum,,, help Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 14:40:02 -0700 To All, Yep, its got be baffled... All tubes removed from the chassis and the speaker still hums!!! I traced out the wiring and it appears that there is a transformer that is maybe working as a choke???? its connected to the output of the power transformer with 2 wires, like its in series with the 6 volt line. There is a 3rd wire that goes to the speaker. This is a small (2inch) open frame transformer, with exposed paper insulation. This small trans is not humming or vibrating... The main power trans is not humming or vibrating, the hum can be heard and felt in the speaker... I am trying to find a schematic to see what the heck is up with this mess..... anyone else got any ideas????? bob in phx..... "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:QomdnceB57TbcFHZnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com... > Mechanical buzz from the power tranny! Amplified by loose mounting to > chassis. I havent had a really bad one in a long time, but it happens. > > Mark Oppat > > "Syl" wrote in message > news:Hi5zg.6716$SE.54144@wagner.videotron.net... >> >> "Bob in Phx" wrote in message >> news:W%Qyg.17194$Nv.5957@fed1read10... >> >I am working on an Wards AM FM table radio. There is a hum,, but before > you >> >go suspecting the filter caps, I have already changed them out. The hum > is >> >fast, not like a 60 cyl hum. I have also taken every single tube out, to >> >the bare chassis and the hum is still there!!!!!!!!!!! Any > suggestions???? >> > >> > >> > wards model 15wg 1545b >> > >> > thanks in advance >> > >> > bob in phx >> >> Let me get this straight, you removed ALL the tubes, plugged the radio in >> and the hum is still there ? >> >> If that is the fact, I can't see how hum can come out of the speaker with > no >> output tube and >> no rectifier...Unless I am missing something ? >> >> Syl >> >> >> > > > Article: 338486 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daphne + Dave" Subject: FS- (3) 4D32 Tubes - NOS- Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:15:59 GMT JAN 4D32 Raytheon Tubes Original boxs, NOS, Made is USA Fits Collins: 32V-1, 32V-2, 32V-3 or others (check your rig) 1977 date codes Asking $125.00USD + FREE shipping within CONUS. Overseas shipping will be extra. Email for details. begin 666 4d32pic 3.jpg M_]C_X14Q17AI9@``24DJ``@````+``X!`@`@````D@````\!`@`%````L@`` M`! !`@`(````N ```!(!`P`!`````0```!H!!0`!````P ```!L!!0`!```` MR ```"@!`P`!`````@```#(!`@`4````T ```!,"`P`!`````@```&F'! `! 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MHNY<$9!^IZ]Z7*@CW.:S<[^0[J_*] 8@'L,#.*57# `@>YSTK-R4MPNFO,7( M[GL>0>ZO80LOJ/J,U%E<\G@\D?WC41G/`[DDDTSY<^N6RW-8 MS:>J8U97;9$2O(!4DC'J?IS3"%W ^H(;!-82:O=,=T1L% ^\!UVYZU$V`.OT M()R#6;9<;C!MQV![$YX[_C4;>6,!ADX/S8YS64^JN.^^I6Y=V]&)@``'#'!^N: MI.0A.T-R?FYJ/F"UD[#2X/W>W!^M1?(Q.<#U[U#:L[%7?0J2!?4@=#EJC+ ; M1QZ X.37/)Z\Q=[[@64D[#^9Z5 VT'!QZ_6M.>[MV)(C@#).1DCO\QJ%@OH, M$],U+[D]6KE=@% Z<= .:@;&`6SS][/:HDTE=C3M=LK.5/'''/)S51V0$*&& M3W)-:)KX1K2\;%9F&.,'CKGO4+D$8..6^M$G?5L3=W=$)8'C.,+D-W_S_B:K M'8"<]3V)[\T[QM<+I:ME=R@SR/?GKUJ(NIR2OOUY_P`_XU-[JQ#3^(9E.<8/ M7WYJ)F!4\ 9.Y<'I^---7MN3WJE)LFZ>NY6DD0@Y((R0/\`:-5FE7'N.,N3^M:P=TXF ':E))I'__V0`` ` end Article: 338487 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nesesu" Subject: Re: storing stuff in the attic Date: 30 Jul 2006 15:27:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1154298433.240709.94780@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1154283109.435788.238530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> I agreee with Ken that the high summer temperatures will do untold damage to capacitors and all plastic and rubber parts, not to mention wax impregnated/dipped RF coils. Parts that normally run hot should not be an issue, but lubricants in capacitors and tuning mechanisms will suffer. I guess I am saying that old radios are like film--store in a cool dry place! Neil S. Ken wrote: > I would worry more about heat than cold. Heat ages everything, and look > out plastic. It can curl your escutcheons and warp your cases. Ken > > philsvintageradios wrote: > > > like many collectors, or ones with a weak spot for "projects" like me, > > I am always looking for space. rather than take up more rooms. > > The insulation in the attic of this old house was filthy. after 82 > > years the 1 inch of insulation, had so much old dust in it. I rented a > > huge shop vac and cleaned everything out. > > > > I am re insulating now, and while I am at it , sheeting the floor. > > The house has an attic with two rooms up, one is small and has a big > > box in the middle where the stairs needed headroom, so that box will > > become my bench and it is a nice spot by the window to do restuffing , > > tuning etc. but a tiny room otherwise. > > > > there are (insulated )pony walls , and there is a triangular shaped > > space on either side of the living space. It is the floor in there that > > I am re insulating/ sheeting. it is about 15 sheets of plywood, so > > quite a bit of storage space. The pony walls are insulated and I made > > four openings I can crawl through. I will put insulated doors to get in > > there. > > > > I have heard that if you insulate right against the roof, that is bad > > for the roofing as it will cook the roof ( duride shingles) so I am not > > insulating there now. > > > > I will end up with a big space that is very dry, but subject to some > > big temperature swings. fans might help to keep the heat out in the > > summer months. > > I started thinking ,I wonder how many of the radios we work on have > > been stored for long periods of time in similar conditions, and how > > that affects the parts. I will dedicate a room downstairs to restored > > radios, but am wondering how damaging the heat/ cool swings are to the > > other stuff. Old chassis, and ones that need to be stripped and really > > gone over. I think the tubes can take it, and stuff won't rust, but > > if electrolytics freeze will it wreck them ? > > how about IF transformers? > > > > Phil > > Article: 338488 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: storing stuff in the attic Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 15:12:49 -0700 Message-ID: <1mbqc2pi4vi4p1a623fa1pla9j0ug35g5l@4ax.com> References: <1154283109.435788.238530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154283499.612569.54200@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> On 30 Jul 2006 11:18:19 -0700, "shirked duty-dishonor-cowardice" (who never served a day in the military) aka Charlie Nudo the Stream Bred Browneye of Drums, PA farted: >Good luck with your storage/shop space project ! You can never have >too many square feet. Hey ginzo boy! I bet you've got your house CRAMMED with crap you can't sell anymore on fraudBay anymore, don't you? "Can never have too many square feet" is the "tell" there. Your fraudBay days are OVER as 66fourdoor. You couldn't sell water to the crew of the "Phoenix" these days! Article: 338489 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "philsvintageradios" Subject: Re: storing stuff in the attic Date: 30 Jul 2006 16:22:28 -0700 Message-ID: <1154301748.593056.51600@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154283109.435788.238530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> What I want to put in there is ls stuff like old chassis, TV tubes, portable record players,tuning caps, stuff that is really ugly but good to have onhand for salvaging the odd part. what others would call junk :) I know the heat/cool isn't as good as the basement but the real estate is more valuable than the junk sometimes. that's why I get it free usually.. but it sure comes in handy when you need to swipe a transformer or something. also houshold stuff, christmas tree decorations, , shelf brackets, the skil saw that needs some attention.bits of metal, Spare parts for my old car,, you know..stuff.. Most of the stuff is in tupperware bins or cardboard boxes wrapped with plastic. I plan to put fans in to draw in one end, out the other, with a thermostat so it comes on if it is above 90 degrees or so. I am in Vancouver so it rains lots here, but still it is very dry in there. it would be unusual but not impossible for it to freeze in there, we have pretty moderate winters. phil Article: 338490 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: storing stuff in the attic References: <1154283109.435788.238530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154298433.240709.94780@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154301748.593056.51600@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 18:54:18 -0500 philsvintageradios wrote: > What I want to put in there is ls stuff like old chassis, TV tubes, > portable record players,tuning caps, stuff that is really ugly but > good to have onhand for salvaging the odd part. what others would call > junk :) > > I know the heat/cool isn't as good as the basement but the real estate > is more valuable than the junk sometimes. that's why I get it free > usually.. but it sure comes in handy when you need to swipe a > transformer or something. > also houshold stuff, christmas tree decorations, , shelf brackets, the > skil saw that needs some attention.bits of metal, Spare parts for my > old car,, you know..stuff.. > Most of the stuff is in tupperware bins or cardboard boxes wrapped > with plastic. > > I plan to put fans in to draw in one end, out the other, with a > thermostat so it comes on if it is above 90 degrees or so. I am in > Vancouver so it rains lots here, but still it is very dry in there. it > would be unusual but not impossible for it to freeze in there, we have > pretty moderate winters. > > phil > > If you have room on each end, fan ventilation is pretty simple. For a passive solution, eaves vents and turbine vents near the peak work well. Article: 338491 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: Free Saturday: Oscope w/ 4.5" CRT Date: 30 Jul 2006 17:03:07 -0700 Message-ID: <1154304187.102073.32980@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1154229227.697593.55840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> toxcrusadr wrote: Wrong things. Okay, it's Sunday. Must be the heat. Free Sunday! tox Article: 338492 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "marty" Subject: Re: grundig 3059 Date: 30 Jul 2006 17:35:23 -0700 Message-ID: <1154306123.827399.322690@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1154263570.512422.192940@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Gentlemen: Thanks for the tips. I will proceed (very carefully) later this week. I will inform you of my progress, or you can bid on my charred carcass when my widow posts it on Ebay. Regards, MAR Article: 338493 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: storing stuff in the attic Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 18:35:36 -0600 Message-ID: <25775-44CD5058-713@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> References: I had to do that when i was moving around alot . My collection ended up in 3 attics . The worst damage came from damp steam or water vapor from hot showers in leaky old houses . The radios that were in closed boxes only showed dry finishes from heat . All of them were savable . Article: 338494 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:52:37 -0400 From: Stewart Schooley Subject: Re: storing stuff in the attic References: <1154283109.435788.238530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Woke up Friday morning to find 15 inches of water in the basement. First time we ever had water in the basement. This area was hit with 10 inches of rain over a 24 hour period. Storm sewers couldn't handle it and the water backed up into people's basements. I was luckey, people having 3, 4, 5 feet of water, and even full basements of water are common occurences. Tree lawns are beginning to look like junk piles as we throw out and clean up. My radio related losses were a nice RCA phonograph and an old GE B&W TV that I thought was unique because it had a clock attached to the top. The attic looks like a safer haven to me. Stewart Article: 338495 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Free Saturday: Oscope w/ 4.5" CRT Date: 30 Jul 2006 18:07:49 -0700 Message-ID: <1154308069.075151.316460@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154229227.697593.55840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> toxcrusadr wrote: > toxcrusadr wrote: > Wrong things. > > Okay, it's Sunday. Must be the heat. Free Sunday! > > > tox You have a reply from me to that you sent back from me. I'll be looking for that soon and thanks. Article: 338496 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Looking for Sparton 301 guts Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 19:05:20 -0600 Message-ID: <25777-44CD5750-32@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> References: <%38zg.1109376$xm3.1055171@attbi_s21> I`m still looking for Sparton 410 guts . I was going to turn the case into a mini jukebox but 500 other projects stopped that . Article: 338497 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: CQ Paula Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 19:10:54 -0600 Message-ID: <25776-44CD589E-181@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> References: Years ago i traded many emails with her , nice lady not a real detailed restorer but great to chat with . Article: 338498 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "theblurrrrr" Subject: Re: Rogers Majestic Ten-60 Schematic, parts list Date: 30 Jul 2006 18:21:27 -0700 Message-ID: <1154308887.077210.298010@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153713606.739580.129200@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Thank you for the help, Nelson. I'm also grappling with the construction methods employed on these sets and the fact that no list exists to corelate part numbers on some capacitors to uf values. Does you know of any way to identify these caps by part number?? Thanks again for your help--I may get back to you if i cannot find a appropriate 24v lamp--I've identified a couple of possible candidates. adkison Nelson Gietz wrote: > "theblurrrrr" wrote in message > news:1153713606.739580.129200@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > I know that there are free schematics available, but they are > > impossible to read at any level of detail. Does anyone have these in > > readable form?? > > > > Also, there is a 24volt indicator light on these sets--what is the > > common designation of the lamp? > > > > Thanks in advance!! > > > I used a lamp Stanpro lamp #7839.... 28V, .024A. It worked > very well on a Majestic in spite of the voltage difference. > Turns out it *dims* when you're tuned in, which seems counter- > intuitive, but Neil S. on this group explained to me how it works > and why (patient man!) and is very knowledgeable about it. > Since it's a miniature with two wires, I had to take a screw base > from a dead pilot light, and solder the leads to it, so it could be > screwed into the original radio socket. > CAUTION: You may have noticed the lamp is in the B+ circuit. > Make sure it's well insulated with a piece of head shrink or similar. > So are a couple of the adjustment capacitors on the cans... I think > they're on the primaries of the IF cans...T4 and T5. It's easy to > short the screwdriver or whatever tool to ground when you get to > the alignment work. > I had to buy a whole sleeve of ten lamps for 25 bux, so I've got > some spares. Contact me off list, and I can send you one or several. > I also have the schematic and several pages of layout and > alignment info from the RCC manuals, which *may* be more > readable that what you have. > Lemme know. > Cheers, > Nelson Article: 338499 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: 45 RPM ,Elvis and Beatles Themed 1952 Seeburg 100 C ,Juke Box, Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 19:16:06 -0600 Message-ID: <25775-44CD59D6-722@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> References: <1154236702.923728.46740@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> That jukebox wont play 33`s Article: 338500 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 45 RPM ,Elvis and Beatles Themed 1952 Seeburg 100 C ,Juke Box, ... Date: 30 Jul 2006 18:27:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1154309238.828907.106140@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154236702.923728.46740@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Ken G. wrote: > That jukebox wont play 33`s It's got a Sansui FR-D35, why the hell not? Article: 338501 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: CQ Paula Date: 30 Jul 2006 18:28:45 -0700 Message-ID: <1154309325.712520.121390@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: Ken G. wrote: > Years ago i traded many emails with her , nice lady not a real detailed > restorer but great to chat with . I remember her. She left sometime after Afghanistan and News2020. Article: 338502 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 19:24:01 -0600 Message-ID: <25775-44CD5BB1-723@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> References: <7471-44CCB901-451@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> THE FACT REMAINS THAT AFTER ALL THIS HOOPLA I STILL HAVE RIDERS 1-23 AVAILABLE FOR $300 I was thinking THE SAME THING !!!! Article: 338503 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: sparton bluebird Date: 30 Jul 2006 18:35:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1154309710.958577.293700@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1153796661.621347.246450@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Tim Mullen wrote: > In <1153810914.596296.5580@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Steven" writes: > > >Ken G. wrote: > >> No matter what you do, it will be blown sky-high silly after you die. > >> > >> The water in my boat picture started moving just a minute ago . > > >Hey, do you have a chassis? > > All of my radios have a chassis. That's what makes 'em radios! > > -- > Tim Mullen > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. > ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Breadboard radios ARE A CHASSIS! Article: 338504 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Black Dial and bluebird Date: 30 Jul 2006 18:40:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1154310018.511356.67680@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153952283.300964.3230@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > In article <1154236973.586261.126100@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, > manyrumours@lycos.com says... > > > > > >The seller of the Zenith 10S690 agreed to have shipping refigured for > >the chassis and related parts Monday. > > > Yup those are the parts you need... > > John k9uwa Might need some help from you talking to the seller. Maybe we can make their burden lighter by finding homes from the rest of it. Was told the tone arm has always been loose, but it's there. It would be a big help to them even more than me. Article: 338505 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: FA: NOS Radio and (mostly) TV knob (not mine) Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 19:36:04 -0600 Message-ID: <25779-44CD5E84-2@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> References: Funny . I tried to sell over 1000 knobs like that . Everyone laughed . I dumped them in the garbage after trying 4 years . Article: 338506 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Date: 30 Jul 2006 18:46:48 -0700 Message-ID: <1154310408.148808.78520@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <7471-44CCB901-451@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Ken G. wrote: > THE FACT REMAINS THAT AFTER ALL THIS HOOPLA I STILL HAVE RIDERS 1-23 > AVAILABLE FOR $300 > > > I was thinking THE SAME THING !!!! I was thinking it's still all that hoopla. Does anybody want his books or could they at least bargain? Are you waiting for the auction or after Bill passes? Let Bill keep going and doing all he can until then. He must be a bit sad to feel he is not useful...that is not what he is about. I have a lot of understanding about that today. Article: 338507 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: James Sweet Subject: 6K7G tube Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 01:49:27 GMT So I'm in need of a good 6K7G tube, there's a few on ebay but postage cost is rather inflated, 9 bucks to ship a single tube?? Anyone got an extra? Email me with price. Article: 338508 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 6K7G tube Date: 30 Jul 2006 18:53:55 -0700 Message-ID: <1154310835.677118.192260@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: James Sweet wrote: > So I'm in need of a good 6K7G tube, there's a few on ebay but postage > cost is rather inflated, 9 bucks to ship a single tube?? > > Anyone got an extra? Email me with price. I'll look but it's untested and free plus shipping if I find it. Will a GT/GTA work if that's what I find? (I saved two files of lists I posted to binaries a while back so it might not be as hard to search) Article: 338509 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: CQ Paula Date: 30 Jul 2006 18:56:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1154310960.097243.78080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: > Ken G. wrote: > > Years ago i traded many emails with her , nice lady not a real detailed > > restorer but great to chat with . > > I remember her. She left sometime after Afghanistan and News2020. and dinius does his nightly carpet bombing of the NG............... Article: 338510 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <1153713606.739580.129200@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1154308887.077210.298010@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Rogers Majestic Ten-60 Schematic, parts list Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:42:40 -0500 "theblurrrrr" wrote in message news:1154308887.077210.298010@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Thank you for the help, Nelson. > > I'm also grappling with the construction methods employed on these sets > and the fact that no list exists to corelate part numbers on some > capacitors to uf values. Does you know of any way to identify these > caps by part number?? > > Thanks again for your help--I may get back to you if i cannot find a > appropriate 24v lamp--I've identified a couple of possible candidates. > > adkison > Sorry, I don't know if there's a way to correlate part numbers to values on these. Some wiser heads on this NG might know. If there's no value shown on the cap itself, (rare in my limited experience) the best way is to work from the schematic of the radio (which you've already noted is hard to read) or from similar sets by the same mfgr. There's always the option of educated guesses as well. And, I've learned there are some =tremendously= educated and experienced people available here. Nelson Article: 338511 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <1154144314.653317.251490@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154281269.196552.19500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <12cptcmncb8sc71@news.supernews.com> <12cq4e3lggg39bc@news.supernews.com> <44CD2407.9119CC38@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: bakalite tv in Connecticut Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:51:56 -0500 "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44CD2407.9119CC38@earthlink.net... > Buck Frobisher wrote: > > > > "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message > > news:EZGdnYXNj9QpY1HZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > >> It has to be the most often mis-spelled word in our hobby. > > > > > > And it ought to be capitalized, like Mylar. It's a proper noun. > > > > If it is mis-spelled, should it still be capitalized? > > > > ;> > > > Only by a miscreant. > Think I met her once. Or twice. Nelson Article: 338512 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: Subject: Re: Odd hum,,, help Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 20:56:51 -0500 "Bob in Phx" wrote in message news:WG9zg.17237$Nv.9512@fed1read10... > To All, Yep, its got be baffled... All tubes removed from the chassis and > the speaker still hums!!! > > I traced out the wiring and it appears that there is a transformer that is > maybe working as a choke???? its connected to the output of the power > transformer with 2 wires, like its in series with the 6 volt line. There is > a 3rd wire that goes to the speaker. This is a small (2inch) open frame > transformer, with exposed paper insulation. This small trans is not humming > or vibrating... > > The main power trans is not humming or vibrating, the hum can be heard and > felt in the speaker... I am trying to find a schematic to see what the heck > is up with this mess..... > > anyone else got any ideas????? > bob in phx..... > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:QomdnceB57TbcFHZnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Mechanical buzz from the power tranny! Amplified by loose mounting to > > chassis. I havent had a really bad one in a long time, but it happens. > > > > Mark Oppat > > > > "Syl" wrote in message > > news:Hi5zg.6716$SE.54144@wagner.videotron.net... > >> > >> "Bob in Phx" wrote in message > >> news:W%Qyg.17194$Nv.5957@fed1read10... > >> >I am working on an Wards AM FM table radio. There is a hum,, but before > > you > >> >go suspecting the filter caps, I have already changed them out. The hum > > is > >> >fast, not like a 60 cyl hum. I have also taken every single tube out, to > >> >the bare chassis and the hum is still there!!!!!!!!!!! Any > > suggestions???? > >> > > >> > > >> > wards model 15wg 1545b > >> > > >> > thanks in advance > >> > > >> > bob in phx > >> > >> Let me get this straight, you removed ALL the tubes, plugged the radio in > >> and the hum is still there ? > >> > >> If that is the fact, I can't see how hum can come out of the speaker with > > no > >> output tube and > >> no rectifier...Unless I am missing something ? > >> > >> Syl Here's a WAG... could it be some weird sort of humbucking arrangement? With no B+ it might be the only thing feeding the speaker? Nelson Article: 338513 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "michaeljpro" Subject: do-it-yourself radio Date: 30 Jul 2006 18:59:31 -0700 Message-ID: <1154311171.246470.140440@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Best leave radio restoration to those who believe in preservation........... http://cgi.ebay.ca/RADIO-WITH-HOME-MADE-CABINET-BEAUTIFUL-AND-UNIQUE_W0QQitemZ290013734136QQihZ019QQcategoryZ50595QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem http://tinyurl.com/nphby Of course I have NO affiliation with this auction. Article: 338514 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: James Sweet Subject: Re: 6K7G tube References: <1154310835.677118.192260@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 02:00:08 GMT Steven wrote: > James Sweet wrote: > >>So I'm in need of a good 6K7G tube, there's a few on ebay but postage >>cost is rather inflated, 9 bucks to ship a single tube?? >> >>Anyone got an extra? Email me with price. > > > I'll look but it's untested and free plus shipping if I find it. Will a > GT/GTA work if that's what I find? > > I'd really like to find a G, preferably tested, I don't mind paying for a good tube. Article: 338515 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1154237341.385988.159680@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <7471-44CCB901-451@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Message-ID: <_ydzg.9076$D%4.3790@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 02:04:42 GMT "Bill Turner" wrote in message news:7471-44CCB901-451@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net... > THE FACT REMAINS THAT AFTER ALL THIS HOOPLA I STILL HAVE RIDERS 1-23 > AVAILABLE FOR $300 > > > Are any of the other collectors from your area going to Bolingbrook that could deliver them there? jim menning Article: 338516 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: Subject: Re: Odd hum,,, help Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 19:21:33 -0700 Nelson, I dont think it has to do with the B+. It was humming before I took out the tubes, but it played, with a background hum.... It might be made that way... its an audible hum, but fairly low level. It contributes to high volume distortion. The radio plays fine at low to medium volumes, but the hum is there and the speaker is vibrating, with the volume turned all the way down... bob "Nelson Gietz" wrote in message news:jtdzg.201$W%.49@newsfe24.lga... > > "Bob in Phx" wrote in message > news:WG9zg.17237$Nv.9512@fed1read10... >> To All, Yep, its got be baffled... All tubes removed from the chassis and >> the speaker still hums!!! >> >> I traced out the wiring and it appears that there is a transformer that >> is >> maybe working as a choke???? its connected to the output of the power >> transformer with 2 wires, like its in series with the 6 volt line. There > is >> a 3rd wire that goes to the speaker. This is a small (2inch) open frame >> transformer, with exposed paper insulation. This small trans is not > humming >> or vibrating... >> >> The main power trans is not humming or vibrating, the hum can be heard >> and >> felt in the speaker... I am trying to find a schematic to see what the > heck >> is up with this mess..... >> >> anyone else got any ideas????? >> bob in phx..... >> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message >> news:QomdnceB57TbcFHZnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com... >> > Mechanical buzz from the power tranny! Amplified by loose mounting to >> > chassis. I havent had a really bad one in a long time, but it >> > happens. >> > >> > Mark Oppat >> > >> > "Syl" wrote in message >> > news:Hi5zg.6716$SE.54144@wagner.videotron.net... >> >> >> >> "Bob in Phx" wrote in message >> >> news:W%Qyg.17194$Nv.5957@fed1read10... >> >> >I am working on an Wards AM FM table radio. There is a hum,, but > before >> > you >> >> >go suspecting the filter caps, I have already changed them out. The > hum >> > is >> >> >fast, not like a 60 cyl hum. I have also taken every single tube out, > to >> >> >the bare chassis and the hum is still there!!!!!!!!!!! Any >> > suggestions???? >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > wards model 15wg 1545b >> >> > >> >> > thanks in advance >> >> > >> >> > bob in phx >> >> >> >> Let me get this straight, you removed ALL the tubes, plugged the radio > in >> >> and the hum is still there ? >> >> >> >> If that is the fact, I can't see how hum can come out of the speaker > with >> > no >> >> output tube and >> >> no rectifier...Unless I am missing something ? >> >> >> >> Syl > > Here's a WAG... could it be some weird sort of humbucking arrangement? > With no B+ it might be the only thing feeding the speaker? > Nelson > > Article: 338517 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: nice 8 tube Silvertone, top of line for '35 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 22:22:43 -0400 Message-ID: <12cqqbqnpc0ku62@corp.supernews.com> References: I tried, but this seller believes their opinion of value is what counts, not what folks are willing to pay. Ratty thing only a brave soul would touch and my $77- snipe isn't NEARLY enough. It probably has a $200- Reserve.... John H. Article: 338518 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: FA: NOS Radio and (mostly) TV knob (not mine) Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 11:46:31 +0900 Message-ID: References: <25779-44CD5E84-2@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> "Ken G." wrote in message news:25779-44CD5E84-2@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net... > Funny . I tried to sell over 1000 knobs like that . Everyone laughed . I > dumped them in the garbage after trying 4 years . That's terrible. One would think that a lot of the old sets that we prize would need knobs.. especially channel selector knobs. If I were in a position to work on the old sets, I would buy these, and would have bought the ones you had as well. Article: 338519 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: Subject: Re: 6K7G tube Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:15:59 -0400 Message-ID: <5cmdnT2sHuCo6FDZnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@comcast.com> I have the G versions in stock. email me at moppat at comcast dot net. See my website at www.oldradioparts.net first , in case you need some caps, rubber chassis mounts, or other odd parts. Mark Oppat "James Sweet" wrote in message news:Hkdzg.5672$j9.5334@trnddc02... > So I'm in need of a good 6K7G tube, there's a few on ebay but postage > cost is rather inflated, 9 bucks to ship a single tube?? > > Anyone got an extra? Email me with price. > Article: 338520 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: 6K7G tube Date: 30 Jul 2006 20:14:07 -0700 Message-ID: <1154315647.390199.286960@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: James Sweet wrote: > Steven wrote: > > James Sweet wrote: > > > >>So I'm in need of a good 6K7G tube, there's a few on ebay but postage > >>cost is rather inflated, 9 bucks to ship a single tube?? > >> > >>Anyone got an extra? Email me with price. > I'd really like to find a G, preferably tested, I don't mind paying for > a good tube. Item 6617755823 seems to have a fair shipping cost. 6K7G is quite common. AES had a sale recently $1.40 each. Of course, after shipping/handling, etc AES can get pricey for just one item. If you don't get one, let me know. I have quite a few out in the shed. Article: 338521 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <%38zg.1109376$xm3.1055171@attbi_s21> Subject: Re: Looking for Sparton 301 guts Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:18:41 -0400 Message-ID: John, pull your MARC member directory out and call /email Dave Snow, John Denhartigh, and maybe Phil Brunais. Ask about the 401 chassis Ken needs while you're at it. Mark Oppat "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:%38zg.1109376$xm3.1055171@attbi_s21... > In article , > k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF says... > > > > > >Looking for radios from Sparton 301 radios... would like to find > >two of them one... the USA version and the other the Canadian > >version ... not interested in cabinets.. just the chassis stuff > >and speakers... > >John k9uwa > > > > Still looking for some Sparton 301 guts... anyone have a junker > they are interested in parting with? > John k9uwa > > Article: 338522 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1154283109.435788.238530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154284322.725396.216410@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154287617.283775.237650@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: storing stuff in the attic Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:25:43 -0400 Message-ID: <_q6dndgGk7Ph6lDZnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@comcast.com> Phil, there is controversy in the building trades about this type of enclosed roofline I think you have, where the bottom of the joists are drywalled directly and the roof is on the top side of the joist. Ideally, all roofs should be vented. the bottom side of the roof should be close to the temp of the top side in winter to discourage snow melt and the associated ice dam at the roof edge. However, with "vaulted" ceilings, the venting was provided years ago, and, the roofs seem to function OK anyways. So... as long as its well insulated, your milage may vary. I had a home like that, but the very peak of it was an open area that vented. Mark Oppat "philsvintageradios" wrote in message news:1154287617.283775.237650@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > > On This Old House they use these thin plastic trough like things that > > you staple up against the inside of the roof between the trusses, > > before you put insulation. They make a 1" or so space between the roof > > and the insulation. At the top, they are open to the roof vents, and > > at the bottom, open to the soffit vents if you have them, or to the > > attic. Air goes up through them by thermal chimney effect, cooling the > > roof above. You might think about using those. > > > > Sounds like you're harvesting some great unused space! I just did my > > garage attic this spring. Too hot to work up there but great for > > storing all kinds of stuff. > > > > Tox > > the roof above the living space is insulated now, so I could put > something to let air flow above the insulation at the sides of the > attic, in the storage space, but I don't think I can get the plastic > trough things between the roof and the insulation over the living > space, so it won't work right if the heat can't get to the peak of the > roof. > > I would have done it that way in heindsight,with a ridge vent, but I > just had the whole living space drywalled so the ceiling above that > area is pretty much inaccessable now. > the drywallers didn't want to wait while I played around too much with > that, but it was insulated there , for the past 50 years or so. > > Having the roof not insulated on the lower portions, that is over half > the roof, and you can feel the heat coming into the space. the roofing > will get a lot hotter if I insulate this area. I still might, will just > need to do the roof again a bit sooner. it had new sheeting and duride > about 7 yrs ago. I got a huge container of crap ot of there and the > attic had panelling and an early type of particleboard on the walls , > so it is much nicer and brighter up there now. took 40 sheets of gyproc > including the drop ceiling that was in the kitchen on the main floor, > and the walls behind the cabinets. I got that back to the orrigional 9 > foot height. they had dropped it to 7' 6 or so. > guess I am getting way O/T sorry.. > > I am rewiring the whole house too and putting outlets everywhere with > 2 coax and network and phone. they all run back to their own panel. > > I can use the coax for running the antennna signal, or cablevision to > any radio /tv in the house. I just will need to go to the panel and re > route the antenna to the radio I want to play. I have one splitter ,and > appropriate transformers for antenna to the 50 ohm cable. > > I will be able to have any two hooked to the antenna at a given time. > the idea is then I can play any of my radios with a "real" antenna , > without moving them about. the phone and network outlets will work in > a similar manor, and reside in their panel, along with the router, etc. > ,, all that junk will hide down in the cable/tv panelbox. > > one thing I found funny was that the spot where the radio bench is > seems to have a real dead spot for reception. I was up there with a > battery TO which works well. on the bench, it gets very poor reception. > a foot to one side it gets good reception. almost all the wiring is > turned off now, until we swap the main power lines over. so whatever > makes the reception there so bad is nothing in the house. > > I invested in the 8 D cells for this battery TO. it has been playing > for about 2 months now, almost never turn it off. the thing is great on > battery life, I love it ! > > Phil > > Article: 338523 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: Subject: Re: Odd hum,,, help Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:30:45 -0400 Message-ID: Bob, does this set have a solid state rectifier??? Probably yes. so, pulling the tubes kills the signal chain but not the B+. What's the model or chassis # on this beast? Mark Oppat "Bob in Phx" wrote in message news:ROdzg.17252$Nv.12951@fed1read10... > Nelson, > I dont think it has to do with the B+. It was humming before I took out the > tubes, but it played, with a background hum.... It might be made that way... > its an audible hum, but fairly low level. It contributes to high volume > distortion. The radio plays fine at low to medium volumes, but the hum is > there and the speaker is vibrating, with the volume turned all the way > down... > > bob > "Nelson Gietz" wrote in message > news:jtdzg.201$W%.49@newsfe24.lga... > > > > "Bob in Phx" wrote in message > > news:WG9zg.17237$Nv.9512@fed1read10... > >> To All, Yep, its got be baffled... All tubes removed from the chassis and > >> the speaker still hums!!! > >> > >> I traced out the wiring and it appears that there is a transformer that > >> is > >> maybe working as a choke???? its connected to the output of the power > >> transformer with 2 wires, like its in series with the 6 volt line. There > > is > >> a 3rd wire that goes to the speaker. This is a small (2inch) open frame > >> transformer, with exposed paper insulation. This small trans is not > > humming > >> or vibrating... > >> > >> The main power trans is not humming or vibrating, the hum can be heard > >> and > >> felt in the speaker... I am trying to find a schematic to see what the > > heck > >> is up with this mess..... > >> > >> anyone else got any ideas????? > >> bob in phx..... > >> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > >> news:QomdnceB57TbcFHZnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com... > >> > Mechanical buzz from the power tranny! Amplified by loose mounting to > >> > chassis. I havent had a really bad one in a long time, but it > >> > happens. > >> > > >> > Mark Oppat > >> > > >> > "Syl" wrote in message > >> > news:Hi5zg.6716$SE.54144@wagner.videotron.net... > >> >> > >> >> "Bob in Phx" wrote in message > >> >> news:W%Qyg.17194$Nv.5957@fed1read10... > >> >> >I am working on an Wards AM FM table radio. There is a hum,, but > > before > >> > you > >> >> >go suspecting the filter caps, I have already changed them out. The > > hum > >> > is > >> >> >fast, not like a 60 cyl hum. I have also taken every single tube out, > > to > >> >> >the bare chassis and the hum is still there!!!!!!!!!!! Any > >> > suggestions???? > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > wards model 15wg 1545b > >> >> > > >> >> > thanks in advance > >> >> > > >> >> > bob in phx > >> >> > >> >> Let me get this straight, you removed ALL the tubes, plugged the radio > > in > >> >> and the hum is still there ? > >> >> > >> >> If that is the fact, I can't see how hum can come out of the speaker > > with > >> > no > >> >> output tube and > >> >> no rectifier...Unless I am missing something ? > >> >> > >> >> Syl > > > > Here's a WAG... could it be some weird sort of humbucking arrangement? > > With no B+ it might be the only thing feeding the speaker? > > Nelson > > > > > > > Article: 338524 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" Subject: Going to Bolingbrook er, Boiling Brook? Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:35:08 -0400 Message-ID: Might be VERY hot this weekend . I remember one Elgin swap where it was in the low 90's. We just cooked out there... lucky there was a pool then at that hotel. I imagine the new place has one too? Mark Oppat Article: 338525 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: do-it-yourself radio From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1154311171.246470.140440@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 03:53:10 GMT In article <1154311171.246470.140440@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, michaeljack@sympatico.ca says... > > > > >Best leave radio restoration to those who believe in >preservation........... >http://tinyurl.com/nphby Eh Michael .. looks like someone scalped a console! John & Jean Article: 338526 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nesesu" Subject: Re: Rogers Majestic Ten-60 Schematic, parts list Date: 30 Jul 2006 20:54:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1154318093.579745.67980@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1153713606.739580.129200@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Adkison, my original message on this thread seems to have vanished into cyberspace, but Nelson passed on the important bits. Perhaps you could be a little more detailed on what about the 'construction methods' you need clarified. I had noted in my previous post that I had looked up my original RCC manual and the schematic is, indeed, very small. However on close inspection I can read the values of most capacitors and resistors using a magnifier. If you just need a list of the component values of the resistors and caps for the Ten-60 I could copy them out onto a list and mail it to you, if you send me an email so I have a place to send it to. It would be in the form: R8 20k 1W C42 .05 600V Paper I have only done 2 Rogers radios, mainly because of the odd tubes used and the difficulty to get replacements for some, so I have not bothered to collect many. However, the two I have done are from the similar vintage as the Ten-60, and I don't recall any components [resistors and caps] with only house numbers. In any case, if you can read the component identity on your schematic and relate that to the components in the radio, I can as I said, provide a list. Please let me know soon if you want that done. Cheers, Neil S. theblurrrrr wrote: > Thank you for the help, Nelson. > > I'm also grappling with the construction methods employed on these sets > and the fact that no list exists to corelate part numbers on some > capacitors to uf values. Does you know of any way to identify these > caps by part number?? > > Thanks again for your help--I may get back to you if i cannot find a > appropriate 24v lamp--I've identified a couple of possible candidates. > > adkison > > > Nelson Gietz wrote: > > "theblurrrrr" wrote in message > > news:1153713606.739580.129200@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > > I know that there are free schematics available, but they are > > > impossible to read at any level of detail. Does anyone have these in > > > readable form?? > > > > > > Also, there is a 24volt indicator light on these sets--what is the > > > common designation of the lamp? > > > > > > Thanks in advance!! > > > > > I used a lamp Stanpro lamp #7839.... 28V, .024A. It worked > > very well on a Majestic in spite of the voltage difference. > > Turns out it *dims* when you're tuned in, which seems counter- > > intuitive, but Neil S. on this group explained to me how it works > > and why (patient man!) and is very knowledgeable about it. > > Since it's a miniature with two wires, I had to take a screw base > > from a dead pilot light, and solder the leads to it, so it could be > > screwed into the original radio socket. > > CAUTION: You may have noticed the lamp is in the B+ circuit. > > Make sure it's well insulated with a piece of head shrink or similar. > > So are a couple of the adjustment capacitors on the cans... I think > > they're on the primaries of the IF cans...T4 and T5. It's easy to > > short the screwdriver or whatever tool to ground when you get to > > the alignment work. > > I had to buy a whole sleeve of ten lamps for 25 bux, so I've got > > some spares. Contact me off list, and I can send you one or several. > > I also have the schematic and several pages of layout and > > alignment info from the RCC manuals, which *may* be more > > readable that what you have. > > Lemme know. > > Cheers, > > Nelson Article: 338527 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1154283109.435788.238530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154298433.240709.94780@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154301748.593056.51600@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: storing stuff in the attic Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:04:10 -0700 Message-ID: >> I plan to put fans in to draw in one end, out the other, with a >> thermostat so it comes on if it is above 90 degrees or so. I am in >> Vancouver so it rains lots here, but still it is very dry in there. it >> would be unusual but not impossible for it to freeze in there, we have >> pretty moderate winters. If heat (rather than moisture or cold) is your major concern, then you need only one fan to blow hot air out, with a shuttered intake vent on the other end of the space to draw in cooler air when the fan is running. A thermostat turns the fan on and off, and the shutters close by gravity when the fan is not blowing. If you can't find a shuttered vent at your local home improvement store, go to a greenhouse supplier. I installed this kind of setup in my handbuilt greenhouse at our former property, and it worked like a charm. The greenhouse supplier can sell you everything -- fan, thermostat, shuttered vent, etc. If you're worried about heat loss or moisture during cold weather, you could also install a shuttered vent on the fan end. I didn't bother with that nicety in my greenhouse, which was located near Seattle -- just tacked a little square of plastic over the fan outlet during the winter months to retain heat for the greenhouse. Regards, Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 338528 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: storing stuff in the attic References: <1154283109.435788.238530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154284322.725396.216410@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:23:48 GMT jakdedert wrote: > OTOH, fans and roof vents will also decrease the heat gain to the lower > floors to a great degree...but not do much for winter losses. And Ken G. Wrote: > I had to do that when i was moving around alot . My collection ended up > in 3 attics . The worst damage came from damp steam or water vapor from > hot showers in leaky old houses . I have to laugh every time I drive around and see trash bags duct taped over turbines in the winter time. It is equally important to have good ventilation in the attic space during the winter. Cooking, showering and breathing will drive moisture up into the attic space. Once there, it hits the cold roof and condenses onto the ceilings. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 338529 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1154144314.653317.251490@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154281269.196552.19500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: bakalite tv in Connecticut Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 21:30:19 -0700 Message-ID: > Well it did go for ten bucks ! what a deal. Good deal, indeed, if the cabinet's in good shape. Let's hope they pick it up, or remove the chassis before shipping, to avoid busting the obvious. I think I read somewhere that that was the largest Bakelite cabinet ever made. Phil Nelson Article: 338530 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: storing stuff in the attic References: <1154283109.435788.238530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154284322.725396.216410@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:32:29 -0500 Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > jakdedert wrote: >> OTOH, fans and roof vents will also decrease the heat gain to the >> lower floors to a great degree...but not do much for winter losses. > > And Ken G. Wrote: >> I had to do that when i was moving around alot . My collection ended up >> in 3 attics . The worst damage came from damp steam or water vapor from >> hot showers in leaky old houses . > > I have to laugh every time I drive around and see trash bags duct > taped over turbines in the winter time. > > It is equally important to have good ventilation in the attic > space during the winter. Cooking, showering and breathing will > drive moisture up into the attic space. Once there, it hits the > cold roof and condenses onto the ceilings. > Granted, but in the summer they can help save energy by keeping the attic cooler. In the winter...well, they ventilate. > Jeff > > > Article: 338531 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: storing stuff in the attic References: <1154283109.435788.238530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154284322.725396.216410@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 04:35:33 GMT jakdedert wrote: > Granted, but in the summer they can help save energy by keeping the > attic cooler. Of course, that's the primary benefit. > In the winter...well, they ventilate. Which is thier secondary benefit. The move the moist air out of the attic before it can condense and saturate the insulation, sucking the heat out of the house and ruing the ceiling material. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 338532 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <25776-44CD589E-181@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> <1154309325.712520.121390@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154310960.097243.78080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: CQ Paula Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:47:41 -0400 "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1154310960.097243.78080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > Steven wrote: >> Ken G. wrote: >> > Years ago i traded many emails with her , nice lady not a real detailed >> > restorer but great to chat with . >> >> [useless crap deleted] > and dinius does his nightly carpet bombing of the NG............... And "somebody" had to reply and quote his shit...Thanks Eddie. Syl Article: 338533 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Odd hum,,, help Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 00:45:26 -0400 "Bob in Phx" wrote in message news:WG9zg.17237$Nv.9512@fed1read10... > To All, Yep, its got be baffled... All tubes removed from the chassis and > the speaker still hums!!! > > I traced out the wiring and it appears that there is a transformer that is > maybe working as a choke???? its connected to the output of the power > transformer with 2 wires, like its in series with the 6 volt line. There > is a 3rd wire that goes to the speaker. This is a small (2inch) open frame > transformer, with exposed paper insulation. This small trans is not > humming or vibrating... > > The main power trans is not humming or vibrating, the hum can be heard and > felt in the speaker... I am trying to find a schematic to see what the > heck is up with this mess..... > > anyone else got any ideas????? > bob in phx..... I can't find the B, but the A version does not have that transformer on the schematic. If the transformer is connected to the power transformer then directly to the speaker (secondary of the OP transformer) then it sounds like someone tried to rig a humbucking transformer. Usually a low value high wattage pot is connected on the filament transformer and the center tap is connected to the ground of the speaker (which is disconnected from the chassis or real ground). Adjusting the pot cancels hum. Of course, if the pot is misadjusted the result is excessive hum. Maybe someone tried to rig a transformer to make a similar humbucking solution minus the pot ? I've also seen Zenith radios which used the output transformer as a choke. The primary had a tap which was used in the PI filtering, B+ to OP transformer, tap to power supply filtering and second tap to OP tube's plate. Weird arrangement, but it worked pretty well to minimize the hum using a double-duty transformer. Now, the question is, is this transformer original or an obvious add-on ? Syl Syl Article: 338534 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1154311171.246470.140440@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: do-it-yourself radio Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 02:21:33 -0400 Message-ID: methinks that was a 1941 Philco console, like a 41-280 or so. Then a clock radio chassis put into it, and that looks like contact paper in the center area over the patched area. yow! Mark Oppat "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:G8fzg.1110062$xm3.17926@attbi_s21... > In article <1154311171.246470.140440@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, > michaeljack@sympatico.ca says... > > > > > > > > > >Best leave radio restoration to those who believe in > >preservation........... > >http://tinyurl.com/nphby > > Eh Michael .. looks like someone scalped a console! > > John & Jean > > Article: 338535 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: do-it-yourself radio Date: 30 Jul 2006 23:51:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1154328669.533740.192000@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1154311171.246470.140440@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Mark Oppat wrote: > methinks that was a 1941 Philco console, like a 41-280 or so. Then a clock > radio chassis put into it, and that looks like contact paper in the center > area over the patched area. > yow! > > Mark Oppat It was a SPENDY Philco if so, dumb move of the century.... > "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message > news:G8fzg.1110062$xm3.17926@attbi_s21... > > In article <1154311171.246470.140440@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, > > michaeljack@sympatico.ca says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Best leave radio restoration to those who believe in > > >preservation........... > > >http://tinyurl.com/nphby > > > > Eh Michael .. looks like someone scalped a console! > > > > John & Jean > > > > Article: 338536 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: CQ Paula Date: 30 Jul 2006 23:52:12 -0700 Message-ID: <1154328732.639995.196610@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: Syl wrote: > "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message > news:1154310960.097243.78080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > > > Steven wrote: > >> Ken G. wrote: > >> > Years ago i traded many emails with her , nice lady not a real detailed > >> > restorer but great to chat with . > >> > >> [useless crap deleted] > > > and dinius does his nightly carpet bombing of the NG............... > > And "somebody" had to reply and quote his shit...Thanks Eddie. > > Syl Shut up, MSSR. Vanier. Article: 338537 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 6K7G tube Date: 30 Jul 2006 23:56:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1154328970.012329.86460@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: Mark Oppat wrote: > I have the G versions in stock. email me at moppat at comcast dot net. See > my website at www.oldradioparts.net first , in case you need some caps, > rubber chassis mounts, or other odd parts. > > Mark Oppat Well, now, if I don't give some away, it looks like I'll have to find more stuff to use them in. Article: 338538 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2006 23:52:22 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1154237341.385988.159680@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <7471-44CCB901-451@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Bill Turner wrote: > THE FACT REMAINS THAT AFTER ALL THIS HOOPLA I STILL HAVE RIDERS 1-23 > AVAILABLE FOR $300 > C'mon folks, $300.00 is a steal for a complete set of books. The first three are worth about $50.00 apiece, the last four often fetch $100.00 apiece in good condition. If I didn't already have a complete set of Riders, I'd grab 'em. -Scott Article: 338539 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 6K7G tube Date: 31 Jul 2006 02:28:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1154338081.185949.15570@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: > Mark Oppat wrote: > > I have the G versions in stock. email me at moppat at comcast dot net. See > > my website at www.oldradioparts.net first , in case you need some caps, > > rubber chassis mounts, or other odd parts. > > > > Mark Oppat > > Well, now, if I don't give some away, it looks like I'll have to find > more stuff to use them in. PS It was a Cunningham 6_S_K7, but my memory was sorta close. Article: 338540 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Going to Bolingbrook er, Boiling Brook? Date: 31 Jul 2006 02:32:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1154338364.937487.107370@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Supposedly one of the after hours events is a pool party so?? Mark Oppat wrote: > Might be VERY hot this weekend . I remember one Elgin swap where it was in > the low 90's. We just cooked out there... lucky there was a pool then at > that hotel. I imagine the new place has one too? > > Mark Oppat Article: 338541 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Odd hum,,, help Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:57:14 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:AsydnYtUluc25VDZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Bob, does this set have a solid state rectifier??? Probably yes. so, > pulling the tubes kills the signal chain but not the B+. What's the model > or chassis # on this beast? > > Mark Oppat It's listed in the OP, Mark. It's a 15WG1545B. It's not in Beitman's.. but the 15WG chassis I was able to find was all tube. Article: 338542 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: RIDERS 1-23 $300 Date: 31 Jul 2006 02:57:45 -0700 Message-ID: <1154339865.311971.147460@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1154237341.385988.159680@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > I'd like to have them, but I can't afford them right now. I paid the > property tax and all the insurance polices for the year, in the past two > months. It has left me about $45 in the bank. My computer is getting > to the point that it locks up several times a day, but then, it is over > six years old. :( Best buy has a brand new E-machine for $299.97 ($200 > instant rebate), but all I can do is toss the ad in the recycling bin, > because that $300 will be my mortgage payment tomorrow, when my VA check > arrives. I wanted to go to the show next weekend in Sarasota, but I > can't find anyone going there from my area, and I can't drive that far, > so I'll miss another show. Mike, is your HDD or IDE controller shot? If not, backup what you can after a thorough security sweep and other troubleshooting, go to the mainboard website for updates and apply any deemed necessary, including BIOS flashing. What are your hard drive models? Check the manufacturer for any warnings or recalls involving your drives. I know of some SATA drives that should never have been, also 8 GB-up will be starting to fail more often due to drive speed and other factors not common before six-eight years ago. Memory is a great thing, over 256 to nearly 400 MB is what I see keeping little P2 333 boards alive and racing without overclocking. They do it at the local auction and he installs Me of all things unless XP is there and discs available. You HAVE to defrag once in a while! There are alternatives to ScanDisk and some are much nicer and faster. How old is your PS? You are the one who wanted to build for others, why do you limit yourself? I've got TWO lined up to set up RIGHT NOW. eMachines SUCK and they put KDS into bankruptcy--One of the finest monitor makers around in the realm you and I could afford. Sheesh. I bought this one for $5 and had to CARRY it 2.5 miles to get it home. Threw my body and diabetes off for a bit over a day and tore my shoulder, but I tested it and wasn't leaving it outside on the side tables to get stolen maybe. eMachines was the monitor I had that was arcing and threatening to do harm that I found on the street almost two years ago and reclaimed from police storage. Windows Me is still a buggy POS and if you have 2000 or XP I still recomend 2000 Pro. NT family and up is a lot nicer than 9x. I am using a 700 MHz Slot A AMD Athlon with AMD bridges and Award BIOS dated 12/2000 on an MS-6195----- K7PRO board. I have an Intel P2 board to put my 333 Celeron Slot 1 on and one that I think is K6-2 or III 500 MHz sitting there ready and once I put the 350 W PS into the Fried Electronics Soyo Dragon Plus return to see if WWIII happens or not I can throw a 250 back in here temporarily IF that does work. Now you know. I'll bet your computer doesn't have herpes, just needs a bath. Take it easy, Steven Article: 338543 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Sarasota Swap Meet -- this coming Saturday Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 10:37:15 GMT The Sarasota Antique Radio Club is hosting its summer radio show and swap meet, August 5 from 8 to 11am. It is located at the Knights of Columbus Hall, 4880 Fruitville Road in Sarasota, Florida. To get there, take I-75 to exit 210, Fruitville Road, and head west 1.5 mile. It is on the left. Thanks to local politicians who like to spend our money on a debatable beautification project, there is a concrete median there and you cannot turn left. However you may drive a short distance further and make a U-turn (for now). Fortunately this is Saturday morning and it is easy to do. Bring a radio for display -- first and second place trophies will be awarded by popular vote. You've been looking for an excuse to visit Florida -- this is it! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 338544 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 06:23:06 -0500 Subject: Re: Going to Bolingbrook er, Boiling Brook? From: John Stone Message-ID: References: On 7/30/06 10:35 PM, in article kNOdnZbtiNsv5FDZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com, "Mark Oppat" wrote: > Might be VERY hot this weekend . I remember one Elgin swap where it was in > the low 90's. We just cooked out there... lucky there was a pool then at > that hotel. I imagine the new place has one too? > Just looked at the Chicago Tribune's Friday forecast: "Early August weather at its finest. Sunny and seasonably warm with comfortable humidity levels. High 84/Low 66 Almost the same for Saturday. If they're right, it should be perfect. Article: 338545 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: CQ Paula Date: 31 Jul 2006 04:52:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1154346744.712299.40970@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: Syl wrote: > "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message > news:1154310960.097243.78080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > > > Steven wrote: > >> Ken G. wrote: > >> > Years ago i traded many emails with her , nice lady not a real detailed > >> > restorer but great to chat with . > >> > >> [useless crap deleted] > > > and dinius does his nightly carpet bombing of the NG............... > > And "somebody" had to reply and quote his shit...Thanks Eddie. > > Syl get over it syl. you do it as much as anybody. Article: 338546 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Going to Bolingbrook er, Boiling Brook? Date: 31 Jul 2006 05:08:15 -0700 Message-ID: <1154347695.891606.162710@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: John Stone wrote: > On 7/30/06 10:35 PM, in article > kNOdnZbtiNsv5FDZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com, "Mark Oppat" > wrote: > > > Might be VERY hot this weekend . I remember one Elgin swap where it was in > > the low 90's. We just cooked out there... lucky there was a pool then at > > that hotel. I imagine the new place has one too? > > > Just looked at the Chicago Tribune's Friday forecast: > "Early August weather at its finest. Sunny and seasonably warm with > comfortable humidity levels. > High 84/Low 66 > Almost the same for Saturday. If they're right, it should be perfect. That is sausage and beer weather up the ying-yang. Go knock yourself out! Article: 338547 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Joe L." Subject: high-freq speaker in German radio Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 07:11:05 -0500 Message-ID: Recently finished repairing an Emud Rekord 60 table radio and it sounds great. It's got a big oval main speaker, a smaller round one, and two thin high-frequency speakers on the left and right sides of the cabinet. Unfortunately one of the two high-freq speakers has no output. I disconnected the wires to it and measured its DC resistance: infinite. I measured the other (working) one: also infinite! So I gather that this type of speaker has no voice coil, but then what type of speaker is it? Electrostatic? It is driven directly from the plate of the EL84 through a .0022 uF cap. Anyone here have experience repairing such a speaker? If it has no voice coil, what else can go wrong with it? TIA, Joe L. Article: 338548 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Sarasota Swap Meet -- this coming Saturday Date: 31 Jul 2006 05:13:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1154347991.389380.316210@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Gary Tayman wrote: "Thanks to local politicians who like to spend our money on a debatable beautification project, there is a concrete median there and you cannot turn left. However you may drive a short distance further and make a U-turn (for now). Fortunately this is Saturday morning and it is easy to do. If you mention beautification, concete comes without limits. Your Royal Floridians will mess up their beautiful GEICO insurance in due course, judging from our paradise. Article: 338549 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: CQ Paula Date: 31 Jul 2006 05:15:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1154348124.324860.307110@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: That's the spirit, guys. Article: 338550 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: high-freq speaker in German radio Date: 31 Jul 2006 05:27:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1154348825.809896.307380@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Joe L. wrote: > Recently finished repairing an Emud Rekord 60 table radio and it sounds > great. It's got a big oval main speaker, a smaller round one, and two > thin high-frequency speakers on the left and right sides of the cabinet. > Unfortunately one of the two high-freq speakers has no output. I > disconnected the wires to it and measured its DC resistance: infinite. I > measured the other (working) one: also infinite! So I gather that this > type of speaker has no voice coil, but then what type of speaker is it? > Electrostatic? It is driven directly from the plate of the EL84 through > a .0022 uF cap. Anyone here have experience repairing such a speaker? If > it has no voice coil, what else can go wrong with it? > > TIA, > Joe L. You've about figured most of it out, but they aren't impervious to harm. Of course you heard of Pioneer "supertweeters" where nobody can really tell if they work or just look cool? Actually if it's driven through a cap, one of them is likely bad---check it out then check the voltages to and from the EL84 you suspect. Tube isn't bad maybe but something nearby isn't going to be feeding it right. Nice unit, and of course it's my best intuitition as a novice, but it makes too much sense to me. Pull the tube and check for faults inside there or a cold joint while you are at it. If all else fails, maybe it's fried, and at least nobody will mistake it for an MTM subwoofer. remember it's Monday and...you won't think it's Tuesday by mistake Article: 338551 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: high-freq speaker in German radio Date: 31 Jul 2006 05:30:16 -0700 Message-ID: <1154349016.402410.95000@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Big PS for how to builld your own ESL drivers! http://www.amasci.com/esloud/eslhwto.html Article: 338552 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <25776-44CD589E-181@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> <1154309325.712520.121390@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154310960.097243.78080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1154346744.712299.40970@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: CQ Paula Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 09:20:27 -0400 "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1154346744.712299.40970@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > Syl wrote: >> "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message >> news:1154310960.097243.78080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >> > >> > Steven wrote: >> >> Ken G. wrote: >> >> > Years ago i traded many emails with her , nice lady not a real >> >> > detailed >> >> > restorer but great to chat with . >> >> >> >> [useless crap deleted] >> >> > and dinius does his nightly carpet bombing of the NG............... >> >> And "somebody" had to reply and quote his shit...Thanks Eddie. >> >> Syl > > get over it syl. you do it as much as anybody. Fuck you Eddie. "I" don't reply to skippy. It's because of people like you that so many losers stick around for so long here. Get over it yourself. Syl Article: 338553 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: high-freq speaker in German radio Date: 31 Jul 2006 06:57:41 -0700 Message-ID: <1154354261.055993.113360@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: Joe L. wrote: > So I gather that this type of speaker has no voice coil, but then what type of speaker >is it? Electrostatic? Yep. It may be fouled. Try blowing it out with (mild) compressed air, such as "Dust-Off" or similar. Usually they are pretty rugged if not burnt out. Keep your fingers and metal tools away, of course. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 338554 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: PCB design software From: "mike48151" References: <1153831935.554676.35460@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1153843908.558278.38230@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 14:50:30 GMT On 25-Jul-2006, "Terry S" wrote: > Wrighty wrote: > >> Look on ebay for pcbcad17 >> >> http://web.ukonline.co.uk/cresswellavenue/pcbcad17.htm > > Spammer... > > And crap software. I made a spam complaint. His host says that they have terminated his account. (I note, however, that the site is still up.) Article: 338555 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: Free Saturday: Oscope w/ 4.5" CRT Date: 31 Jul 2006 07:52:20 -0700 Message-ID: <1154357540.312895.218540@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154229227.697593.55840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I got to thinking if one was a real hotshot designer, an oscope could be modified into a waveform display on an audio amp or receiver. This occurred to me when I was looking at the spacious chassis on this thing with 8 or 10 tube sockets. Design a tube amp into the box, it's about the right size, keep the CRT on the left side, and build a circuit to display the music waveform. Way beyond my capabilities, though. Anyone ever hear of such a thing? Tox Article: 338556 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dennis Daly" References: Subject: Re: high-freq speaker in German radio Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 15:03:49 GMT "Joe L." wrote in message news:joe-9E3A20.07110531072006@comcast.dca.giganews.com... > Recently finished repairing an Emud Rekord 60 table radio Anyone here have experience repairing such a speaker? If > it has no voice coil, what else can go wrong with it? > > TIA, > Joe L. Hello Joe- Yes- Electrostatic.....Depending on the specific brand, the most common defect is an open conductive (metallized plastic) strip connecting the diaphragm to the "+" terminal. The open usually occuring at or near the "+" terminal rivet. Ohm meter testing of a good unit will still measure open, however. Disassemble....Some styles by merely straightening tabs, others by re-melting the retainer buttons.....Use Loctite "Rear Window Defogger Repair" (Auto Parts Store Item) to bridge the damaged conductive area on the foil. Final resistance check using "+" terminal itself and measuring to opposite side of diaphragm....Anything above a few ohms indicates another fault with the sprayed metal. A few ohms continuity indicates you've fixed it. Depending on brand or style, replace the foam pressure pad located behind the diaphragm if it has disintegrated. Use very lightweight, open-cell foam sheet only....Heavier foam pads will dampen what little excursion there is..... Always replace the capacitor feeding the E/S speaker(s) Good luck w/ it, Den Article: 338557 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: grundig 3059 Date: 31 Jul 2006 08:47:56 -0700 Message-ID: <1154360876.354786.193830@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154263570.512422.192940@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> marty wrote: Grundig 3059 Others have commented on the fuse. Try the output transformer. An utterly silent radio is unusual, if there are no crackles, pops or wheezes when you switch functions, start there. Or, if the radio has been 'previously enjoyed', some connections may have been misplaced or even broken. Look for this as well. BE CAREFUL. Lethal voltages exist in there. Act accordingly. Where are you? Perhaps someone may be able to help you diagnose. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 338558 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: Subject: Re: Odd hum,,, help Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 12:08:57 -0400 Message-ID: <_JOdnbZVz-_Dt1PZnZ2dnUVZ_r2dnZ2d@comcast.com> 15WG means 1951, Wells-Gardner made it. Mark Oppat "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:eakk0q$ovj$1@news2.kornet.net... > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:AsydnYtUluc25VDZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Bob, does this set have a solid state rectifier??? Probably yes. so, > > pulling the tubes kills the signal chain but not the B+. What's the model > > or chassis # on this beast? > > > > Mark Oppat > > It's listed in the OP, Mark. It's a 15WG1545B. It's not in Beitman's.. but > the 15WG chassis I was able to find was all tube. > > > Article: 338559 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: yerke@adelphia.net (Rick Yerke) Subject: Re: do-it-yourself radio References: <1154311171.246470.140440@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:07:47 GMT Message-ID: In article <1154311171.246470.140440@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, "michaeljpro" wrote: > > >Best leave radio restoration to those who believe in >preservation........... > >http://cgi.ebay.ca/RADIO-WITH-HOME-MADE-CABINET-BEAUTIFUL-AND-UNIQUE_W0QQitemZ2 >90013734136QQihZ019QQcategoryZ50595QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > >http://tinyurl.com/nphby > > >Of course I have NO affiliation with this auction. > I wonder why it is listed on Ebay Canada when the seller is in the USA ? Does he think Canadian radio collectors are dumber and would buy that piece of crap radio? Rick Article: 338560 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Going to Bolingbrook er, Boiling Brook? Date: 31 Jul 2006 09:31:28 -0700 Message-ID: <1154363488.093338.107260@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: > That is sausage and beer weather up the ying-yang. Go knock yourself > out! Excellent!! Article: 338561 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1154311171.246470.140440@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: do-it-yourself radio Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:35:28 GMT "Rick Yerke" wrote in message news:N6KdnUudGrZVt1PZnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@adelphia.com... > In article <1154311171.246470.140440@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, "michaeljpro" > wrote: >> >> >>Best leave radio restoration to those who believe in >>preservation........... >> >>http://cgi.ebay.ca/RADIO-WITH-HOME-MADE-CABINET-BEAUTIFUL-AND-UNIQUE_W0QQitemZ2 >>90013734136QQihZ019QQcategoryZ50595QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >> >>http://tinyurl.com/nphby >> >> >>Of course I have NO affiliation with this auction. >> > I wonder why it is listed on Ebay Canada when the seller is in the USA ? Does > he think Canadian radio collectors are dumber and would buy that piece of crap > radio? Rick It's not, it's just that the path you went through was from the link provided which went through www.ebay.ca which is the Canadian link to eBay. Had you entered through a link for somewhere else, like Taiwan, it would appear to you as if it was listed in Taiwan. http://cgi.tw.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290013734136 jim menning Article: 338562 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephanie Weil" Subject: Re: high-freq speaker in German radio Date: 31 Jul 2006 09:41:45 -0700 Message-ID: <1154364105.899220.162130@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Dennis Daly wrote: > Yes- Electrostatic.....Depending on the specific brand, the most common > defect is an open conductive (metallized plastic) strip connecting the > diaphragm to the "+" terminal. Here is a step by step website - with colour photos on how to restore an electrostatic tweeter: http://www.ppinyot.com/electrostatic_tweeter.htm Hope that helps. I've never tackled one of these...yet. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY Article: 338563 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: high-freq speaker in German radio Date: 31 Jul 2006 10:04:19 -0700 Message-ID: <1154365458.944660.284760@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Stephanie Weil wrote: > Dennis Daly wrote: > > > Yes- Electrostatic.....Depending on the specific brand, the most common > > defect is an open conductive (metallized plastic) strip connecting the > > diaphragm to the "+" terminal. > > Here is a step by step website - with colour photos on how to restore > an electrostatic tweeter: > > http://www.ppinyot.com/electrostatic_tweeter.htm > > Hope that helps. I've never tackled one of these...yet. > > -- > Stephanie Weil > New York City, NY Paul does excellent work and Dennis as well. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 338564 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "boxcar" Subject: Re: Way OT but of possible interest here. Date: 31 Jul 2006 10:43:16 -0700 Message-ID: <1154367796.206888.88250@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Tom Adkins wrote: > Nothing to do with antique radio so spank me soundly if necessary. Lots of follks > here are also into modern electronics and I'm not. So here goes: > My son just bought a Robo-Sapien V.2. Has anyone seen this thing?? It's amazing. > > Ok. it can walk, no big deal. It can talk. Well yea the speech is random at times, > but the speech is pretty directed when necessary. It can "learn" from it's > environment. It gets "bored" without input and will go off on tangental trips > exploring the house. It can "learn" it's environment. It got "focused" on the cat > yesterday. The cat would only move a foot or so and the "robot" seemed to "chase" it. > It can be taught speech, so I was thinking "here kitty, kitty" of course. > It's pre programmed to interact with humans and aside from it's loud "whoa" startle > response the dude is really human like. It's pretty cool to say the least. > > Does anyone here have one that can offer some input? This thing is almost scary, as > I grew up watching The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits. I'm not sure what to think > about this battery operated (toy??person??thing??) > He has come to "rest" on my work bench, kind of like his home base. I don't mind > sharing space, I just don't want him taking over and doing a better job at fixing > radios. :) hi tom i see your off topic, and raise you a bit though you did use the word tangent so i think i'm playing fair. in 1956 Robert Heinline wrote a nice little paperback book i still have, titled Door Into Summer. The protagonist in the story was an engineer who designed little domestic aides to saunter around the house, learn, and do their task, while freeing housewives from domestic drudgery. Even a drafting aid "Drafting Dan" waay before Auto Cad- which by the way is hardly auto, though i do digress.The story goes further to a bit of course, and there"s even a cat! IF you'd like i'll send it to you. Anyway thanks for your post on my e150 oiling problem, and your logic. -eric (ridemc2000) Enjoy your new little fella, and thanks Article: 338565 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "boxcar" Subject: Re: Way OT but of possible interest here. Date: 31 Jul 2006 10:59:33 -0700 Message-ID: <1154368773.602043.264090@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: Tom Adkins wrote: > Nothing to do with antique radio so spank me soundly if necessary. Lots of follks > here are also into modern electronics and I'm not. So here goes: > My son just bought a Robo-Sapien V.2. Has anyone seen this thing?? It's amazing. > > Ok. it can walk, no big deal. It can talk. Well yea the speech is random at times, > but the speech is pretty directed when necessary. It can "learn" from it's > environment. It gets "bored" without input and will go off on tangental trips > exploring the house. It can "learn" it's environment. It got "focused" on the cat > yesterday. The cat would only move a foot or so and the "robot" seemed to "chase" it. > It can be taught speech, so I was thinking "here kitty, kitty" of course. > It's pre programmed to interact with humans and aside from it's loud "whoa" startle > response the dude is really human like. It's pretty cool to say the least. > > Does anyone here have one that can offer some input? This thing is almost scary, as > I grew up watching The Twilight Zone and The Outer Limits. I'm not sure what to think > about this battery operated (toy??person??thing??) > He has come to "rest" on my work bench, kind of like his home base. I don't mind > sharing space, I just don't want him taking over and doing a better job at fixing > radios. :) hi tom i see your off topic, and raise you a bit though you did use the word tangent so i think i'm playing fair. in 1956 Robert Heinline wrote a nice little paperback book i still have, titled Door Into Summer. The protagonist in the story was an engineer who designed little domestic aides to saunter around the house, learn, and do their task, while freeing housewives from domestic drudgery. Even a drafting aid "Drafting Dan" waay before Auto Cad- which by the way is hardly auto, though i do digress.The story goes further to a bit of course, and there"s even a cat! IF you'd like i'll send it to you. Anyway thanks for your post on my e150 oiling problem, and your logic. -eric (ridemc2000) Enjoy your new little fella, and thanks Article: 338566 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Way OT but of possible interest here. Date: 31 Jul 2006 11:31:57 -0700 Message-ID: <1154370717.772480.28150@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: boxcar wrote: > hi tom > i see your off topic, and raise you a bit though you did use the word > tangent so i think i'm playing fair. in 1956 Robert Heinline wrote a > nice little paperback book i still have, titled Door Into Summer. > The protagonist in the story was an engineer who designed little > domestic aides to saunter around the house, learn, and do their task, > while freeing housewives from domestic drudgery. Even a drafting aid > "Drafting Dan" waay before Auto Cad- which by the way is hardly auto, > though i do digress.The story goes further to a bit of course, and > there"s even a cat! "The Rum Tum Tugger is a curious cat... When you let me in, then I want to go out I'm always on the wrong side of every door. And as soon as I'm at home, then I'd like to get about I like to lie in the bureau drawer And I make such a fuss if I can't get out." - T.S. Eliot Heinlein postulated that cats are on the wrong side of every door as they are continuously searching for "The Door Into Summer"... hence the title. As we are tangentally to the tangent on cats: "Ignorant people think it's the noise which fighting cats make that is so aggravating, but it ain't so; it's the sickening grammar they use." "A home without a cat, and a well-fed, well-petted and properly revered cat, may be a perfect home, perhaps, but how can it prove its title?" - Mark Twain "If you want the best seat in the house, you'll have to move the cat." - anonymous Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA & kept by two cats. Article: 338567 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dru.sefton@newhouse.com Subject: Victrolas, anyone? Date: 31 Jul 2006 11:35:12 -0700 Message-ID: <1154370912.774566.125330@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Hello all! I'm a reporter working on a tribute piece on Victrolas to mark their 100th anniversary on August 22. Anyone care to wax (pun intended) poetic on the virtues of the Victrola? After all, without the Victrola we wouldn't have iPods, right? Feel free to post back if you think this subject of interest, or email me directly. Thanks much! Kind Regards, Ms. Dru Sefton http://www.newhousenews.com/sefton.html Article: 338568 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brad-io" Subject: Re: Victrolas, anyone? Date: 31 Jul 2006 13:13:03 -0700 Message-ID: <1154376783.177843.257360@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154370912.774566.125330@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Wax poetic... Hmm. The only rhymes that come to mind are Radiola and viola. I'm fortunate to be in possession of my great-grandmother's hand-crank Victrola along with a stash of her records. The tall cabinet is worn but beautiful, and I remember seeing it sitting in the living room next to her in that tiny house out in the country- The kind without running water, no air conditioning, and it only had electricity a few years before I was born. It was great entertainment for the great-grandchilden. This magical record player that worked off a crank, much like her well pump. We looked and looked for the electrical cord. We could not understand how so much sound came out without electricity. We also looked for "new" records but her collection stopped around the 1930's. Grandmother died in 1966. We were glad that my father brought the Victrola home from the estate sale. Dad rarely played it, but we kids would play with the Victrola when the partents weren't around. We used the one-use needle hundreds of times. When we lost that, we substituted a nail or other sharp object. It still played with our substitutue needles, but the records didn't fare so well. When my father passed on, the Victrola was one of the family memories I wanted to keep. I gave the spring motor and gears a good clean and lube. I replaced the old dried-out rubber pieces in the sound reproducer, greatly improving the performance. And I purchased a large quantity of single-use needles so we can preserve the records I find online and locally. My 3 year old son is now entertained by the sounds coming out of the Victrola originally purchased by the great-great-grandmother he never met. Last winter when an ice storm took out our power for days, we kept warm and entertained dancing to the sounds from the old Victrola. And once when we heard a thunderstorm approaching, my wife sought to protect the Victrola from potential power surges by unplugging it. She couldn't find the electrical cord either! A family tradition continues. Article: 338569 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: FA: NOS Radio and (mostly) TV knob (not mine) Date: 31 Jul 2006 13:18:23 -0700 Message-ID: <1154377102.976599.31460@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: Ken G. wrote: > Funny . I tried to sell over 1000 knobs like that . Everyone laughed . I > dumped them in the garbage after trying 4 years . So, did you ever think of giving them away for shipping cost? To promote the hobby, and find them a home other than the landfill? Geez. Tox Article: 338570 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Free Saturday: Oscope w/ 4.5" CRT Message-ID: References: <1154229227.697593.55840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154357540.312895.218540@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:17:57 GMT On 31 Jul 2006 07:52:20 -0700, "toxcrusadr" wrote: > >I got to thinking if one was a real hotshot designer, an oscope could >be modified into a waveform display on an audio amp or receiver. This >occurred to me when I was looking at the spacious chassis on this thing >with 8 or 10 tube sockets. Design a tube amp into the box, it's about >the right size, keep the CRT on the left side, and build a circuit to >display the music waveform. Way beyond my capabilities, though. > >Anyone ever hear of such a thing? > >Tox Maybe I dreamed it, but I seem to recall that a customer in Tarzana, CA, circa 1960 had a Columbia radio-phopno console that had a built in oscilloscope. The same customer had an electronic theatre-organ from a demolished theatre, in his house. He had managed to be able to play "Silent Night" on it, badly. He had a Color TV in every bedroom of his mansion, although he lived alone, and he was so afraid of electricity that he could not change a light bulb himself. Article: 338571 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: storing stuff in the attic Message-ID: <08tsc2dg37vgss71rpnc2fvtdlvuhgkk5q@4ax.com> References: <1154283109.435788.238530@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154298433.240709.94780@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:25:20 GMT On 30 Jul 2006 15:27:13 -0700, "nesesu" wrote: >I guess I am saying that old radios are like film--store in a cool dry >place! Film? Now you are really dealing with vintage technology. ;o) Article: 338572 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: CQ Paula Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:29:00 -0400 Message-ID: <12csth3rrcqcl99@corp.supernews.com> References: <25776-44CD589E-181@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> <1154309325.712520.121390@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154310960.097243.78080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1154310960.097243.78080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > and dinius does his nightly carpet bombing of the NG............... Who? John H. Article: 338573 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: BOOKS FOR SALE, POSTPAID, ALL LIKE NEW Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 16:26:26 -0500 Message-ID: <15532-44CE7582-546@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> FIXING UP NICE OLD RADIOS. ED ROMNEY $30.00 THE COMPLEAT TALKING MACHINE, ERIC REISS $30.0 RADIOS BY HALLICRAFTERS, DACHIS $30.00 MACHINE AGE TO JET AGE. STEIN $20.00 MACHINE AGE TO JET AGE II. STEIN $20.00 THE ZENITH TRANS-OCEANIC. BRYANT AND CONES. $20.00 CLASSIC CONES, CHIDESTER. $20.00 CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 338574 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "marty" Subject: Re: grundig 3059 Date: 31 Jul 2006 15:04:19 -0700 Message-ID: <1154383459.280324.222270@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154263570.512422.192940@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Peter: Thanks for writing. I will chase down a fuse before proceeding. The unit was not turned on for more 1-2 minutes total under my care. There was enough dust in there that it didn't appear monkeyed with. All of the components appeared to be of the same vintage and nothing looked "out of place". I live near ATL. Travel frequently to central FL, NC, SC, TN, and AL. I will do more research and prep before I start poking around again. The re-cap was something that I felt as though I could do on my own. I am confident that I did it correctly since I took ample hi-res pix and copius notes. Thanks again, MAR Peter Wieck wrote: > marty wrote: > Grundig 3059 > > Others have commented on the fuse. Try the output transformer. An > utterly silent radio is unusual, if there are no crackles, pops or > wheezes when you switch functions, start there. > > Or, if the radio has been 'previously enjoyed', some connections may > have been misplaced or even broken. Look for this as well. > > BE CAREFUL. > > Lethal voltages exist in there. Act accordingly. > > Where are you? Perhaps someone may be able to help you diagnose. > > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA Article: 338575 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Art's Antique Radios" References: Subject: Re: Going to Bolingbrook er, Boiling Brook? Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 17:12:44 -0500 Message-ID: Mark beat me to the post but here is what I had drafted at work but had to wait to get home to post. _________________________________________ OK - who is headed to Bolingbrook? Although the weather here in Chicago is 100 today, showers on Wednesday mean the temp drops to 80 for Friday and Saturday with 99% chance of sunshine. Registration is strong and I have had a number of calls from people either attending for the first time or others returning after several years of absence. I am personally in three spaces just behind the registration booth and appraisal tent. Be sure to stop by and say hello as I will be the guy with over 40 boxes of tubes trying to clean up after buying one too many loads. Nothing goes home!!!!! Most will be take what you want and pay what you want ( within some reason). NO - there are no 45's at $2 a piece. LOL. I did this last year and it took some folks by surprise when I said - "What do you want to pay". . "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:kNOdnZbtiNsv5FDZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Might be VERY hot this weekend . I remember one Elgin swap where it was > in > the low 90's. We just cooked out there... lucky there was a pool then at > that hotel. I imagine the new place has one too? > > Mark Oppat > > > > Article: 338576 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Free Saturday: Oscope w/ 4.5" CRT Date: 31 Jul 2006 15:32:30 -0700 Message-ID: <1154385150.756221.243150@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1154229227.697593.55840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Brian McAllister wrote: > On 31 Jul 2006 07:52:20 -0700, "toxcrusadr" wrote: > > > > >I got to thinking if one was a real hotshot designer, an oscope could > >be modified into a waveform display on an audio amp or receiver. This > >occurred to me when I was looking at the spacious chassis on this thing > >with 8 or 10 tube sockets. Design a tube amp into the box, it's about > >the right size, keep the CRT on the left side, and build a circuit to > >display the music waveform. Way beyond my capabilities, though. > > > >Anyone ever hear of such a thing? > > > >Tox > > Maybe I dreamed it, but I seem to recall that a customer in Tarzana, > CA, circa 1960 had a Columbia radio-phopno console that had a built in > oscilloscope. > > The same customer had an electronic theatre-organ from a demolished > theatre, in his house. He had managed to be able to play "Silent > Night" on it, badly. He had a Color TV in every bedroom of his > mansion, although he lived alone, and he was so afraid of electricity > that he could not change a light bulb himself. See Mister Greene, he's so serene, he's got a TV in every room! Another Pleasant Valley Sunday.... Still want a half decent Oscope if it has Billy Carter's can rings stained on it. Article: 338577 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1154370912.774566.125330@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Victrolas, anyone? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:33:19 GMT I suppose by this you mean the anniversary of the Victrola, which was not exactly the first phonograph but a trade name for Victor Records' new stand-up console player. The Victrola name stuck well into the 1950's, as RCA console stereos often used that name. However the Victrola name didn't always correspond with a console player -- I have a very small portable player, circa 1937, that's merely a platter and a tone arm, designed to play through a radio -- and "RCA Victrola" is clearly written on the front. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:1154370912.774566.125330@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > Hello all! I'm a reporter working on a tribute piece on Victrolas to > mark their 100th anniversary on August 22. Anyone care to wax (pun > intended) poetic on the virtues of the Victrola? After all, without the > Victrola we wouldn't have iPods, right? > > Feel free to post back if you think this subject of interest, or email > me directly. > > Thanks much! > > Kind Regards, > Ms. Dru Sefton > http://www.newhousenews.com/sefton.html > Article: 338578 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Victrolas, anyone? Date: 31 Jul 2006 15:37:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1154385473.865875.166970@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154370912.774566.125330@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> I'd love to have 78s of Sham 69 and just one copy of "God Save the Queen" just for a giggle. Thank you for lovingly forcing me to install cartridges with me fat shaky cussed mitts...it's worth it. Camden rocks! Article: 338579 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: CQ Paula Date: 31 Jul 2006 15:40:02 -0700 Message-ID: <1154385602.879141.174720@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: Hagstar wrote: > "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message > news:1154310960.097243.78080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > > and dinius does his nightly carpet bombing of the NG............... > > Who? > > John H. He's on first or they're on tour again I think... Article: 338580 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: need stromberg carlson chassis Date: 31 Jul 2006 15:45:56 -0700 Message-ID: <1154385956.126045.211190@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> 240 series. speaker would be nice, but i will take chassis only. knobs and escutcheon a plus also. Article: 338581 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: do-it-yourself radio Date: 31 Jul 2006 15:47:57 -0700 Message-ID: <1154386077.083979.5910@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1154311171.246470.140440@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> jim menning wrote: > "Rick Yerke" wrote in message > news:N6KdnUudGrZVt1PZnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@adelphia.com... > > In article <1154311171.246470.140440@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, "michaeljpro" > > wrote: > >> > >> > >>Best leave radio restoration to those who believe in > >>preservation........... > >> > >>http://cgi.ebay.ca/RADIO-WITH-HOME-MADE-CABINET-BEAUTIFUL-AND-UNIQUE_W0QQitemZ2 > >>90013734136QQihZ019QQcategoryZ50595QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > >> > >>http://tinyurl.com/nphby > >> > >> > >>Of course I have NO affiliation with this auction. > >> > > I wonder why it is listed on Ebay Canada when the seller is in the USA ? Does > > he think Canadian radio collectors are dumber and would buy that piece of crap > > radio? Rick > > It's not, it's just that the path you went through was from the link provided which > went through www.ebay.ca which is the Canadian link to eBay. Had you entered through > a link for somewhere else, like Taiwan, it would appear to you as if it was listed in > Taiwan. > > http://cgi.tw.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290013734136 > > jim menning IF he listed it in Canada or Taiwan it would show there. If you set your search for *ALL* of eBay or a certain eBay country listings that's what you'll get. Article: 338582 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Odd hum,,, help Date: 31 Jul 2006 15:50:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1154386221.372131.82580@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Mark Oppat wrote: > 15WG means 1951, Wells-Gardner made it. > > Mark Oppat > > > "Brenda Ann" wrote in message > news:eakk0q$ovj$1@news2.kornet.net... > > > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > > news:AsydnYtUluc25VDZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > > Bob, does this set have a solid state rectifier??? Probably yes. so, > > > pulling the tubes kills the signal chain but not the B+. What's the > model > > > or chassis # on this beast? > > > > > > Mark Oppat > > > > It's listed in the OP, Mark. It's a 15WG1545B. It's not in Beitman's.. but > > the 15WG chassis I was able to find was all tube. That's right. I sent her an 18-- a while back. Definitely tubes. Article: 338583 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: FA: NOS Radio and (mostly) TV knob (not mine) Date: 31 Jul 2006 15:52:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1154386338.210384.160970@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: toxcrusadr wrote: > Ken G. wrote: > > Funny . I tried to sell over 1000 knobs like that . Everyone laughed . I > > dumped them in the garbage after trying 4 years . > > So, did you ever think of giving them away for shipping cost? To > promote the hobby, and find them a home other than the landfill? Geez. > > Tox He's Ken Gooding. Don't ask me to explain, it defeats the purpose. Article: 338584 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44ce8b83$0$4519$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Free Saturday: Oscope w/ 4.5" CRT References: <1154229227.697593.55840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154357540.312895.218540@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: 31 Jul 2006 23:00:19 GMT Brian McAllister wrote: > Maybe I dreamed it, but I seem to recall that a customer in Tarzana, > CA, circa 1960 had a Columbia radio-phopno console that had a built in > oscilloscope. Until tonight I had no idea there was such thing, but then I surfed following URL and discovered a Philips receiver featuring a scope tube: http://www.oudio.nl/22rf870.htm -- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 338585 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: BOOKS FOR SALE, POSTPAID, ALL LIKE NEW Date: 31 Jul 2006 16:12:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1154387538.360733.193370@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <15532-44CE7582-546@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> Bill Turner wrote: > RADIOS BY HALLICRAFTERS, DACHIS > $30.00 (I GOT DIBS) > MACHINE AGE TO JET AGE. STEIN > $20.00 > MACHINE AGE TO JET AGE II. STEIN > $20.00 Would like the Steins, but if you get there first say hello to Bill, of course. May opt for Ed Romney's book (probably should) when I figure how bad I'm out in a bit. FCFS! Article: 338586 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Free Saturday: Oscope w/ 4.5" CRT Date: 31 Jul 2006 16:18:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1154387890.216162.286200@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154229227.697593.55840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl wrote: > Brian McAllister wrote: > > Maybe I dreamed it, but I seem to recall that a customer in Tarzana, > > CA, circa 1960 had a Columbia radio-phopno console that had a built in > > oscilloscope. > > Until tonight I had no idea there was such thing, but then I surfed > following URL and discovered a Philips receiver featuring a scope tube: > http://www.oudio.nl/22rf870.htm > > -- > Met vriendelijke groet, > > Maarten Bakker. Until this year I didn't know there was a 22AH794A04-- receiver built it about 1978 in the old Magnavox plant in Tennessee. But I'll bet I know where Superscope/Marantz et al got the idea now... Article: 338587 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: BOOKS FOR SALE, POSTPAID, ALL LIKE NEW Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:17:04 -0500 Message-ID: <20579-44CE8F70-134@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <15532-44CE7582-546@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> MARK II EVOLUTION OF RADIO, VOL I, $10.00 EVOLUTION OF RADIO, VOL II $10.00 CRYSTAL CLEAR, VOL I, $20.00 CRYSTAL CLEAR, VOL II, $20.00 ANTIQUE RADIOS RESTORATION AND PRICE GUIDE, $10.00 PHILCO RADIO 1928-1942, RAMIREZ, $15.00 COMPLETE PRICE GUIDE TO ANTIQUE RADIOS: TABLE RADIOS- VOL 4. $10.00 ELECTRICAL GOODS &RADIO APPARATUS, SEARS, REPRINTED BY LINDSAY. $10.00 OLD TIME RADIO, RESTORATION AND REPAIR, JOSEPH CARR, $15.00 GUIDE TO OLD RADIOS, JOHNSON, $10.00 ANTIQUE RADIO RESTORATION GUIDE, JOHNSON, $10.00 CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 338588 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: pgonshor@aol.com Subject: Re: Victrolas, anyone? Date: 31 Jul 2006 16:37:59 -0700 Message-ID: <1154389079.505235.323840@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154370912.774566.125330@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> My first "Victrola" was actually a Sonora floor model. I was extremely proud of it and it sounded great. I had my elderly parents over for dinner, and I played the "Victrola". They yelled out "It's a Victrola!" and immediately began dancing. They were well into their eighties at the time. The song was "Blue Moon". It is the best memory of my folks I have. Regards, Dave Article: 338589 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 18:51:10 -0500 From: jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) Subject: Re: Odd hum,,, help Message-ID: References: In article , "Syl" wrote: > I've also seen Zenith radios which used the output transformer > as a choke. The primary had a tap which was used in the > PI filtering, B+ to OP transformer, tap to power supply filtering and > second tap to OP tube's plate. Weird arrangement, but it worked > pretty well to minimize the hum using a double-duty transformer. Hi Syl, I believe this circuit has been discussed in this group several times before. IIRC the final consensus was that the tapped output transformer used in this circuit does not serve as a choke, nor does it contribute to the B+ filtering in any way. What it is a bridge circuit that prevents any power supply ripple voltage from appearing across the output transformer. Normally the finite plate resistance of the output tube would cause some of the power supply ripple voltage to appear across the output transformer primary. In this bridge circuit the RC filter for the B+ voltage that feeds the output tube screen grid and the other tubes in the radio is feed from the short end of the output transformer primary winding, rather than directly from the cathode of the rectifier. The number of turns is proportioned so that the ripple current through the filter resistor induces a ripple voltage in the output transformer that cancels the ripple voltage across the transformer that results from the finite plate resistance of the output tube. There is no power supply choke effect involved, nor is the B+ filtering for the rest of the radio increased by this connection. Regards, John Byrns Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ Article: 338590 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 19:03:28 -0500 From: Samantha Message-ID: <0001HW.C0F40480002BC519F02845B0@news.comcast.giganews.com> Subject: Philco Model 84 Question/Update Well, as suggested I have taked on the oscillator coil in the Philco radio and the Primary coil (the small one on the outside) has opened up... Now my question... Does anyone know what size wire that is on the coil? Thanks!! S. Article: 338591 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Victrolas, anyone? Date: 31 Jul 2006 17:26:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1154391973.554151.106980@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154370912.774566.125330@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Why does this guy remind me of Clifford Clavin on Cheers? Gary Tayman wrote: > I suppose by this you mean the anniversary of the Victrola, which was not > exactly the first phonograph but a trade name for Victor Records' new > stand-up console player. > > The Victrola name stuck well into the 1950's, as RCA console stereos often > used that name. However the Victrola name didn't always correspond with a > console player -- I have a very small portable player, circa 1937, that's > merely a platter and a tone arm, designed to play through a radio -- and > "RCA Victrola" is clearly written on the front. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > wrote in message > news:1154370912.774566.125330@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > Hello all! I'm a reporter working on a tribute piece on Victrolas to > > mark their 100th anniversary on August 22. Anyone care to wax (pun > > intended) poetic on the virtues of the Victrola? After all, without the > > Victrola we wouldn't have iPods, right? > > > > Feel free to post back if you think this subject of interest, or email > > me directly. > > > > Thanks much! > > > > Kind Regards, > > Ms. Dru Sefton > > http://www.newhousenews.com/sefton.html > > Article: 338592 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: need stromberg carlson chassis From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1154385956.126045.211190@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <6kxzg.1111647$xm3.493057@attbi_s21> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 00:34:10 GMT In article <1154385956.126045.211190@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, eb062559@aol.com says... > > >240 series. speaker would be nice, but i will take chassis only. knobs >and escutcheon a plus also. > Eddie.... watsa matter with the one you have?... Any chance your just looking for a parts unit?.. I have a rustbucket that I swiped a coil out of it for another SC ... coil is happily in my 231 Chairside.. Escutcheon might be here... think it was a 240 that cabinet was trashed on it.. John Article: 338593 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: norml Subject: Re: Victrolas, anyone? Message-ID: References: <1154370912.774566.125330@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154389079.505235.323840@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 00:33:44 GMT I have a model XII on the stair landing. It isn't exactly a family heirloom--my folks bought it for us as a toy in a Sacramento Goodwill store for $7.00 in the '50s, when I was a teenager. I ended up with it when they downsized their household a number of years ago. When we got it, the finish was immaculate except for the top which had been exposed to a lot of heat at some point. In the years it lived on the back porch, the finish deteriorated significantly. Although I have had it mechanically restored, it now badly needs refinishing. I love it, anyway. Norm pgonshor@aol.com wrotf: >My first "Victrola" was actually a Sonora floor model. I was extremely >proud of it and it sounded great. I had my elderly parents over for >dinner, and I played the "Victrola". They yelled out "It's a >Victrola!" and immediately began dancing. They were well into their >eighties at the time. The song was "Blue Moon". It is the best memory >of my folks I have. Regards, >Dave Article: 338594 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:29:20 -0400 From: Tom Adkins Subject: Re: Way OT but of possible interest here. References: <1154367796.206888.88250@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <64idnUQEEfE-MFPZnZ2dnUVZ_rudnZ2d@comcast.com> boxcar wrote: > hi tom > i see your off topic, and raise you a bit though you did use the word > tangent so i think i'm playing fair. in 1956 Robert Heinline wrote a > nice little paperback book i still have, titled Door Into Summer. > The protagonist in the story was an engineer who designed little > domestic aides to saunter around the house, learn, and do their task, > while freeing housewives from domestic drudgery. Even a drafting aid > "Drafting Dan" waay before Auto Cad- which by the way is hardly auto, > though i do digress.The story goes further to a bit of course, and > there"s even a cat! IF you'd like i'll send it to you. > Anyway thanks for your post on my e150 oiling problem, and your > logic. > -eric (ridemc2000) > Enjoy your new little fella, and thanks > Hi Boxcar, watch out if you've never been here. Antique radios and phonographs are habit forming (although Ford vans are perfect for hauling consoles) ;) Thanks for the offer, I'd like to read that book. I will email you. Article: 338595 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "George Conklin" References: <1154370912.774566.125330@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Victrolas, anyone? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 01:27:08 GMT wrote in message news:1154370912.774566.125330@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > Hello all! I'm a reporter working on a tribute piece on Victrolas to > mark their 100th anniversary on August 22. Anyone care to wax (pun > intended) poetic on the virtues of the Victrola? After all, without the > Victrola we wouldn't have iPods, right? > > Feel free to post back if you think this subject of interest, or email > me directly. > > Thanks much! > > Kind Regards, > Ms. Dru Sefton > http://www.newhousenews.com/sefton.html > The other posters are correct. The -ola in Victrola was for the INTERNAL horn machines. The external horn machines, such as shown by Nipper the dog, were Victors. Nipper originally was painted showing an Edison but Edison did not buy the painting, so it was redone with a Victor machine and is still famous. Article: 338596 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John048 Subject: Dropping resistor for series tube filaments Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 01:42:37 GMT I picked up an old Addison radio, vintage about 1934. It is a wood cabinet tombstone radio and has 4 tubes. 12Z3, 6D6, 6C6, AND 43. No Rider listing. These are 0.3 amp tubes that drop the voltage 49 volts. I need to make up the other 68 volts that originally was dropped by a line cord resistor which is now open. What do I use to drop this 68 volts? I figure 227 ohms and 20.4 watts so I would probably need a 30 watt or more resistor. I have heard that there are better ways to do this. Anybody know how? Also, is there anywhere that I might find a schematic for this radio since it does not appear in Rider or I just did not find it. John Article: 338597 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "wa2mze(spamless)" <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: ST tubes; RCA's mystery tube code References: <3c2e17b86710d76a80c1bed70797b1d9@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:02:05 -0400 Pete_O wrote: > Does anyone know when the transition from S tube bulbs to ST occurred? I > would like to keep my radio collection somewhat accurate. And am I > correct is assuming that apart from 01-A's and 80's, the S-bulbs always > have a high temp filament? > > Also, for 40+ years I have wondered the purpose of the octagonal ring that > surrounds the tube designation on RCA tubes- each ring has an opening and > each ring has a short line sticking out from the ring; they are always in > different places. Do any tube experts know the purpose? > -Pete O AI2V > Not all tubes transitioned from the S bulbs to ST at the same time. S bulbs were made in S12, S14, S17, and S19 sizes. Battery tubes such as the type 30 were made briefly in S12 or S14 bulbs, then T12 size, and finally in ST12. Both filament and heater/cathode tubes were made in the S12/S14 bulbs at first. Among the tubes initially made in "S" type bulbs and later in ST were: 00A, 01A, 27, 26, 24A, 80, 56, 59, 46, 47, 45, 30 (VERY RARE in "S"), 37, 38. The 57 and 58 rf pentodes were introduced in the ST bulb (different shape with higher dome and more tapered sides than the more common type. Only the 57, 58, 6U7, 6D6 and 6C6 were made in this shape bulb). Article: 338598 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: need stromberg carlson chassis Date: 31 Jul 2006 19:03:26 -0700 Message-ID: <1154397806.800785.238530@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1154385956.126045.211190@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > In article <1154385956.126045.211190@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > eb062559@aol.com says... > > > > > >240 series. speaker would be nice, but i will take chassis only. knobs > >and escutcheon a plus also. > > > Eddie.... watsa matter with the one you have?... Any chance your > just looking for a parts unit?.. I have a rustbucket that I swiped a > coil out of it for another SC ... coil is happily in my 231 Chairside.. > Escutcheon might be here... think it was a 240 that cabinet was trashed > on it.. > > John thanks john. i need the whole thing. the 240 is the 11 tube. 231 is 9. (or is it 7) if you have the escutcheon, that would be nice....or speaker. Article: 338599 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: swingst1@juno.com Subject: Radio Sound (Noise) Question Bad Tube? Date: 31 Jul 2006 19:05:45 -0700 Message-ID: <1154397944.911405.4970@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Hello All! I have a FULLY re-capped beautiful Motorola 52H. Its one of my favorites. Its working great, very sensitive for Dx'ng Very clear tone. Handsome radio. Lately, at low volume I'm hearing a "rummble" type of sound. I'm thinking its a weak tube..but which one? Could it be a dirty volume switch? I have cleaned it (the switch)several times. Any thoughts? As always, any adivice is greatly appreciated!! Article: 338600 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ken Knapp" Subject: Z909 battery Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:07:56 -0400 Message-ID: <12ctdrrin7ibk0b@corp.supernews.com> A buddy of mine in Kentucky bought a Zenith 4G903 radio and wanted to get a battery for it. I suggested he contact Bill Turner and he did. But my friend does not know the battery voltage which Bill needs. Does anyone know the specs? Thanks, Ken -- Ken Knapp http://www.geocities.com/skykingagi Article: 338601 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "philsvintageradios" Subject: Victor R-54 wat does it look like? Date: 31 Jul 2006 19:09:30 -0700 Message-ID: <1154398170.804243.213240@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> someone contacted me and has one for sale. the schematic is on nostalgiaair, but I know little else about it I assume it is a console? can't find much else googling Phil Article: 338602 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "wa2mze(spamless)" <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Dropping resistor for series tube filaments References: Message-ID: <%Kyzg.28519$ZH1.21619@bignews4.bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 22:15:00 -0400 John048 wrote: > > I picked up an old Addison radio, vintage about 1934. It is a wood > cabinet tombstone radio and has 4 tubes. 12Z3, 6D6, 6C6, AND 43. No > Rider listing. These are 0.3 amp tubes that drop the voltage 49 > volts. I need to make up the other 68 volts that originally was > dropped by a line cord resistor which is now open. What do I use to > drop this 68 volts? I figure 227 ohms and 20.4 watts so I would > probably need a 30 watt or more resistor. I have heard that there are > better ways to do this. Anybody know how? > > Also, is there anywhere that I might find a schematic for this radio > since it does not appear in Rider or I just did not find it. > > John I remember reading an article on the net about how to use a capacitor to drop the voltage in a series heater string. You can also drop part of the voltage with a silicon diode since while a meter would still read nearly the same voltage the tube heaters will see only one half cycle of the ac current. I don't think a diode cuts the available power in half, but maybe to 70%. Another idea might be to use a light bulb. I'm not sure how to figure out what wattage bulb would do the trick, but I would guess something between 15-40W would be close. If you could fit the bulb in the radio it would double as a dial light. Article: 338603 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: BOOKS FOR SALE, POSTPAID, ALL LIKE NEW Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:02:14 -0500 Message-ID: <26502-44CEB626-617@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <15532-44CE7582-546@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> MARK III THE COLLECTORS GUIDE TO ANTIQUE RADIOS, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 EDITIONS, BUNIS/SLUSSER. $120.00 THE COLLECTORS GUIDE--------THIRD EDITION, FITTED WITH A PLASTIC RING BINDING, NOTHING MISSING. $15.00 THE COLLECTORS GUIDE--------SIXTH EDITION, ABSOLUTELY NEW. $20.00 CRYSTAL SET PROJECTS, THE CRYSTAL SET SOCIETY. $5.00 CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 338604 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Victrolas, anyone? References: <1154370912.774566.125330@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:40:40 GMT dru.sefton@newhouse.com wrote: > Feel free to post back if you think this subject of interest, or email > me directly. A couple of weeks ago, I received a phone call from an 84 year old man. The crank came off of his Victrola. I drove up to Hollywood and repaired his machine for him. He immediately wound it up and was tickled to death that it again filled his house with music. He commented, "When the big one hits, I'll be the only one on the block with music" and smiled. Truely a fascinating gentleman to talk to. When I got home, I ordered a couple of hundred new needles for him so that he can continue to enjoy his old records. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 338605 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Way OT but of possible interest here. References: <1154367796.206888.88250@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 02:42:42 GMT boxcar wrote: > In 1956 Robert Heinline wrote a nice little paperback book, I > still have, titled Door Into Summer. And a fine story it is indeed. A great romp to while away a few hours of your time with. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 338606 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: WHAT A MESS ! Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 21:44:25 -0500 Message-ID: <26502-44CEC009-620@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> EARLIER THIS EVENING THE LOCAL PUBLIC TELEVISION STATION HAD SOMETHING ON ABOUT A LOCAL RECORD SHOP MAKING NEW RECORDINGS OF SOME OF THE OLD GAS LIGHT SQUARE GROUPS. THEY SHOWED AN OLD=A0AMPEX WITH 10 1/2 REELS. THAT GOT ME TO THINKING ABOUT THE AEG MACHINES THAT USED A PLATE ON THE BOTTOM AND A HUB, BUT NO UPPER PLATE. ONE NIGHT THE OTHER MACHINES WERE BUSY WHEN A FEED COME IN FROM ONE OF THE OTHER STATIONS. THERE WAS NOTHING TO DO BUT USE THE AEG MACHINE WHICH WAS NORMALLY USED STRICTLY FOR EDITING. THE FEED WAS FINISHED WHEN THE TAPE JUMPED LOOSE FROM THE HUB AND SPLATTERED ALL OVER THE RECORDING ROOM. WITH ONLY ABOUT 20 MINUTES STILL AIR TIME THERE WAS NOTHING TO DO BUT HAND FEED THE 1000 FEET OF TAPE BACK ON ITS REEL WITH THE REMAINDER WOUND BACK AND FORTH ACROSS A PARKING LOT. WE GOT IF BACK OK AND I RETIRED TO MY DUTY AS MASTER CONTROL. MAKE MENTAL NOTE NEVER TO TAKE A FEED ON THE AEG. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 338607 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:08:01 -0400 From: Tom Adkins Subject: Re: Way OT but of possible interest here. References: <1154367796.206888.88250@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154370717.772480.28150@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Peter Wieck wrote: > boxcar wrote: > >> hi tom >> i see your off topic, and raise you a bit though you did use the word >>tangent so i think i'm playing fair. in 1956 Robert Heinline wrote a >>nice little paperback book i still have, titled Door Into Summer. >>The protagonist in the story was an engineer who designed little >>domestic aides to saunter around the house, learn, and do their task, >>while freeing housewives from domestic drudgery. Even a drafting aid >>"Drafting Dan" waay before Auto Cad- which by the way is hardly auto, >>though i do digress.The story goes further to a bit of course, and >>there"s even a cat! > > > "The Rum Tum Tugger is a curious cat... > When you let me in, then I want to go out > I'm always on the wrong side of every door. > And as soon as I'm at home, then I'd like to get about > I like to lie in the bureau drawer > And I make such a fuss if I can't get out." - > > T.S. Eliot > > Heinlein postulated that cats are on the wrong side of every door as > they are continuously searching for "The Door Into Summer"... hence the > title. > > As we are tangentally to the tangent on cats: > > "Ignorant people think it's the noise which fighting cats make that is > so aggravating, but it ain't so; it's the sickening grammar they use." > "A home without a cat, and a well-fed, well-petted and properly revered > cat, may be a perfect home, perhaps, but how can it prove its title?" - > Mark Twain > > "If you want the best seat in the house, you'll have to move the cat." > - anonymous > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA & kept by two cats. > Hahaha, great quotes. I've always wondered why cats couldn't decide which side of a door to be on. I think Mr.Heinlein may have been on to something. That sounds like an interesting book, I think I'll take boxcar up on his offer. Another of my favorite quotes is: "God created dogs to show us that we were made in His image, then He created cats to remind us that we are not God".- origin unknown to me. I commend your taste in pets, Peter. I never had any use for those darn pesky sneaky animals until I picked up a stray black kitten some years ago along a busy highway. He died (euthanized)of Feline Leukemia some 16 years later, the best buddy I ever had (outlasted 2 wives). I still miss the Old Man. I wouldn't be without a cat now. Truth be known, I've paid to have a couple of ferals fixed and doctored and even fostered a few rescues for the local shelter. Dogs are great, I love 'em, but cats seem to fit better in my life. Tom (I used to despise cats) Adkins- kept in line by 2 cats and a raccoon. P.S. Manditory radio content to bring this post at least close to OT: 'Pibber (The Old Man) used to sit on my work bench and "supervise" while I was working on a radio or some other electrical\electronic gizmo, occasionally giving parts a lick. He did this through 4 different residences. He once got a curious tongue full of B+ electrons while "inspecting" my work on a Majestic 50 chassis. No harm done, but afterward he kept his tongue planted firmly in his mouth when "inspecting". He kept doing it, though. If I had my fingers in a chassis and pulled them away to grab a tool, part, etc, he would lean in and look/sniff for a few seconds then sit back. Article: 338608 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2006 23:23:51 -0400 From: Tom Adkins Subject: Re: Way OT but of possible interest here. References: <1154367796.206888.88250@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > boxcar wrote: > >> In 1956 Robert Heinline wrote a nice little paperback book, I >> still have, titled Door Into Summer. > > > And a fine story it is indeed. A great romp to while away a > few hours of your time with. > > Jeff > If it comes with the Jeff Angus Offbeat Stuff Seal of Approval, I certainly want to read it. Mr. Angus is King of the Offbeat (and slightly twisted?);) IMHO, of course. Article: 338609 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Way OT but of possible interest here. References: <1154367796.206888.88250@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Aug 2006 03:24:13 GMT Tom Adkins wrote: > If it comes with the Jeff Angus Offbeat Stuff Seal of Approval, I > certainly want to read it. Mr. Angus is King of the Offbeat (and > slightly twisted?);) IMHO, of course. Heh, If (big if there) I remember correctly, the thing about the "door into summer" was the cat was convinced, that during the winter, that the human was hiding summer behind one of the doors. As in, "I'm really tired of the rain and cold, could you PLEASE open the door into summer?" And it's been quite some time since I read it, but I vaguely remember a huge dog, a van and other fun little bits such as shutting down the phone system and the freeways. (This might be another entirely different story.) Either way, when you're done with the book, can I borrow it? Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950.