Article: 339065 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2006 23:16:30 -0400 From: Tom Adkins Subject: Re: Radio "rich" areas of the country? References: Message-ID: John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > In article , > newton5@remove.comcast.net says... > >> >>(roughly) Great Lakes region be rife with attic treasures as opposed to the > > East Coast? > >> I'm certainly not complaining, just wondering (as I prop the door open > > with, yet > >>another, one of those pesky AK 10-c Breadboards ;) ) >> Any thoughts? > > > > East Coast .. space to store stuff is at a much larger premium in more > crowded areas of the east ... so when it croaked.. they ditched the stuff > rather than storing it... another thought is the general type of people > in the midwest.. more of the ... well someday I might just need that > gizmo ... so they tend to be more like packrats.... yup takes one to > know one!... > > John k9uwa > "... another thought is the general type of people in the midwest.. more of the ... well someday I might just need that gizmo ... so they tend to be more like packrats...." Yeah, I gotcha there...common thinking around these parts. Long after the Depression was over. Article: 339066 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Radio "rich" areas of the country? Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 23:19:41 -0400 Message-ID: <12ddcanlrvm6n43@corp.supernews.com> References: The New York City area where I grew up is full of sick people who hate and fear anything old or unfashionable. A recent NY Times article talked about "Serial Renovators" who put in a $70,000- kitchen and then tear it out literally less than a year later to put in a new one. These types of people threw out their Victrolas by 1950. This demented attitude is mostly why I left New York, many people here in Vermont still think such things are actually illegal (which they SHOULD be). My mother (an architect) pointed out frequently that there not even a SINGLE building remaining of the hundreds built in Manhattan in the 17th century. We could feed the hungry and house the homeless of the whole country with the building materials and food thrown away each day that are perfectly good but which some whining little king or queen thinks might not be to their exact taste at this instant. In contrast Midwesterners don't get flak from their friends because they have no 50" flatscreen TV or their pants still have cargo pockets ("How 2004!"). You can just be a human being. You can keep old stuff around and still have friends. You can have a old console in the garage and not have to throw it out or fix it up Shabby Chic or turn it into a bar- it can just be old and in the barn. John H. Article: 339067 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Sir+plus" Subject: OLD Mikes FA: RCA BK-6B Lavalier; American EL; Shure Bros 3B End 8/11 Date: 6 Aug 2006 20:40:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1154922044.841362.66060@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> eBay Auction Very cool little RCA BK-6B Lavalier Microphone with Lanyard NR Item number: 320014222373 Only $1.00 as of 8/6/06 Nice American Microphone Model EL w/Spring-suspension stand Item number: 320014222271 Only $87.95 as of 8/6/06 Uniquely mounted Shure 3B Carbon button Microphone-with Octagon Stand-NR Item number: 320014222639 Only $70.99 as of 8/6/06 Also check out these aviation items: Radio Compass Dial Face -NR Item number: 320014214988 NAF 1173-2 Navy Fighter Control Stick Grip WWII Vintage Item number: 320014214925 Pictures in listings. Please check out. Thanks for looking. Jim KB1YZ Article: 339068 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <12dccm5d69lh7ed@corp.supernews.com> <2eydnV-HIOXu6UvZnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@comcast.com> <1154920084.778069.249940@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Batgain 16B Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 23:47:15 -0400 Message-ID: <4padneoK2bBhK0vZnZ2dnUVZ_vmdnZ2d@comcast.com> Power tranny is all original... its rare to see a bad one in one of these... in fact, I have never. This is a very nice set, and its the code 125, the last version of the 16. In 1936 it became the 116, then there were console only 37-116 and 38-116's. The 39-116 was another animal entirely, being Mystery Control set. Mark Oppat "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1154920084.778069.249940@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > After looking at the pics on this I'm wondering, are all model 16 > chassis alike? I know there are consoles out with different code > numbers (122, 125). > > Question, is the power transformer universal for all model 16 chassis? > There's just something that looks different in the pictured chassis. > > Thanks, > > GB > > Art's Antique Radios wrote: > > BIN was $135 > > > > > > "Hagstar" wrote in message > > news:12dccm5d69lh7ed@corp.supernews.com... > > > What was there, a $100- BuyItNow? But some IDIOT thinks "maybe I can get > > > it for $9.95". > > > > > > John H. > > > "Art's Antique Radios" wrote in message > > > news:lLudnZc_KoiPu0vZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > >> Quick! > > >> > > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-TOMBSTONE-PHILCO-TUBE-RADIO-MODEL-16B-1930S_W0QQitemZ180015350223QQihZ008QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > >> > > >> Not mine but there are great sounding sets > > >> > > > > > > > > Article: 339069 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: The Aggravating Propane Grill Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 22:39:59 -0500 Message-ID: <5695-44D6B60F-820@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: I hear tell old toilets make good flower planters. cuhulin Article: 339070 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <-62dncJKnKLxgknZnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com> <13706-44D52707-301@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> <9sidnSWh99fRykjZnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Anyone ever replaced a 6V6 with a 5V6? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 23:49:49 -0400 "TerryJ" wrote in message news:9sidnSWh99fRykjZnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@comcast.com... >... so thought of trying them. Well...right now you are frying them... Syl Article: 339071 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Steve J Subject: Re: GE's Electronics Park Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 00:30:33 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1154897765.951817.261600@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Lockheed Martin has a large facility located there now. On 6 Aug 2006 13:56:06 -0700, "N2TKX" wrote: >This is the facility where General Electric produced all it's TV sets >from the 40's through the 70's. A video history of the park has >recently been released and may be previewed at www.ElectronicsPark.org. Article: 339072 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <-62dncJKnKLxgknZnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com> <13706-44D52707-301@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Anyone ever replaced a 6V6 with a 5V6? Date: Sun, 6 Aug 2006 23:34:27 -0500 Message-ID: <44d6b5d9$0$31479$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "TerryJ" wrote in message news:x_GdnRSy3uDZoEjZnZ2dnUVZ_rSdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Well I was making an adapter with diodes in series and got frustrated and > decided to just try 'em straight. They work fine ISTR one of my Marcus & Levy books offered this related troubleshooting example: Guy brings his radio in complaining it had been blowing 5Y3s every month or so ever since he had the power transformer replaced by another shop a few months prior. Why? Your job as the tech was to figure out why (reason: the 5V and 6V windings were reversed), fix the problem, and follow up with the customer after a couple months to make sure all was well. I'm no EE but it intuitively makes sense that a 5V tube won't be happy for long in a 6V socket. OK for testing maybe, but not a permanent solution without installing (if my late night math is any good) a 10 ohm 2W resistor or the diodes as Michael suggested......The additional power draw in that configuration is about one watt per tube. The adapter shouldn't be any challenge to make....... -p -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 339073 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: GE's Electronics Park Date: 6 Aug 2006 21:50:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1154926205.885810.53910@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1154897765.951817.261600@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Steve J wrote: > Lockheed Martin has a large facility located there now. > > > > On 6 Aug 2006 13:56:06 -0700, "N2TKX" wrote: > > >This is the facility where General Electric produced all it's TV sets > >from the 40's through the 70's. A video history of the park has > >recently been released and may be previewed at www.ElectronicsPark.org. Looks like a good program. The subject is interesting and what I saw of the production quality was very nice. Article: 339074 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 01:12:00 -0400 From: Tom Adkins Subject: Re: OT: The Aggravating Propane Grill References: <5695-44D6B60F-820@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > I hear tell old toilets make good flower planters. > cuhulin > Yep, they do. There is still one in my neighborhood along with it's matching bathtub and pedistal sink. They're in a back yard hidden from public view. That wasn't planned, that's just where they've been for the last 30 years. They're still growing flowers like they were when I was in grade school. The toilet is home to a ~20 year old Russian Sage plant that obscures it with tiny purple flowers most of the summer. Article: 339075 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: The Aggravating Propane Grill Date: 6 Aug 2006 22:29:36 -0700 Message-ID: <1154928576.297697.164180@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Tom Adkins wrote: > cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > > I hear tell old toilets make good flower planters. > > cuhulin > > > Yep, they do. There is still one in my neighborhood along with it's matching bathtub > and pedistal sink. They're in a back yard hidden from public view. That wasn't > planned, that's just where they've been for the last 30 years. They're still growing > flowers like they were when I was in grade school. The toilet is home to a ~20 year > old Russian Sage plant that obscures it with tiny purple flowers most of the summer. So if your life is in the crapper, call FTD Article: 339076 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Auto Radio Ignition Noise fixes? Date: 6 Aug 2006 22:31:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1154928704.153896.176070@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <%lrBg.1903$uW1.1414@dukeread06> nesesu wrote: > Ken, further to what Gary wrote, it is vital that all the internal > shielding of the radio be in perfect condition. If the 'fingers' on the > lips where the panels join are not making really good contact or if any > of the case closing screws [actually ANY screws] are loose or missing, > it can have a huge effect on the noise. Basically all the noise > supression components in the radio must be 'as designed' or the chance > of noise problems is greatly increased. > > Neil S. > > Ken wrote: > > Thanks, Gary, I will pass it on. Ken > > > > Ken wrote: > > > > > For vintage tubed sets, is there a list anywhere of things to check when > > > this is a problem. Most botherson on weak stations, ok when playing CD > > > player through audio. Ken > > > Get rid of the car. Article: 339077 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Radio "rich" areas of the country? Date: 6 Aug 2006 22:34:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1154928850.302674.134780@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Hagstar wrote: > The New York City area where I grew up is full of sick people who hate and > fear anything old or unfashionable. A recent NY Times article talked about > "Serial Renovators" who put in a $70,000- kitchen and then tear it out > literally less than a year later to put in a new one. These types of people > threw out their Victrolas by 1950. This demented attitude is mostly why I > left New York, many people here in Vermont still think such things are > actually illegal (which they SHOULD be). My mother (an architect) pointed > out frequently that there not even a SINGLE building remaining of the > hundreds built in Manhattan in the 17th century. We could feed the hungry > and house the homeless of the whole country with the building materials and > food thrown away each day that are perfectly good but which some whining > little king or queen thinks might not be to their exact taste at this > instant. > > In contrast Midwesterners don't get flak from their friends because they > have no 50" flatscreen TV or their pants still have cargo pockets ("How > 2004!"). You can just be a human being. You can keep old stuff around and > still have friends. You can have a old console in the garage and not have to > throw it out or fix it up Shabby Chic or turn it into a bar- it can just be > old and in the barn. > > John H. Sweet Jeebus, you validated my entire life! Article: 339078 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Batgain 16B Date: 6 Aug 2006 22:37:12 -0700 Message-ID: <1154929032.155039.149890@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Mark Oppat wrote: > Power tranny is all original... its rare to see a bad one in one of these... > in fact, I have never. This is a very nice set, and its the code 125, the > last version of the 16. In 1936 it became the 116, then there were console > only 37-116 and 38-116's. The 39-116 was another animal entirely, being > Mystery Control set. > > Mark Oppat > > > > "RadioGary" wrote in message > news:1154920084.778069.249940@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > After looking at the pics on this I'm wondering, are all model 16 > > chassis alike? I know there are consoles out with different code > > numbers (122, 125). > > > > Question, is the power transformer universal for all model 16 chassis? > > There's just something that looks different in the pictured chassis. > > > > Thanks, > > > > GB > > > > Art's Antique Radios wrote: > > > BIN was $135 > > > > > > > > > "Hagstar" wrote in message > > > news:12dccm5d69lh7ed@corp.supernews.com... > > > > What was there, a $100- BuyItNow? But some IDIOT thinks "maybe I can > get > > > > it for $9.95". > > > > > > > > John H. > > > > "Art's Antique Radios" wrote in message > > > > news:lLudnZc_KoiPu0vZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > > >> Quick! > > > >> > > > >> > http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-TOMBSTONE-PHILCO-TUBE-RADIO-MODEL-16B-1930S_W0QQitemZ180015350223QQihZ008QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > >> > > > >> Not mine but there are great sounding sets I thought a BATgain could be a female BARgain, but thank the stars no Google ads about wild and crazy trannys again. Article: 339079 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Need info on Silvertone radio, model 1024 Date: 6 Aug 2006 23:03:51 -0700 Message-ID: <1154930631.451222.292110@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154906226.197109.268220@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> david@drumheller.org wrote: > I'm looking for the schematics for a Sears Silvertone AM/FM tube radio, > model 1024 (white cabinet). Anyone know where I can get this? The > radio is essentially inoperative. The tubes glow, but no audio. At > the least, the audio section is bad because there is no low-level hum > or hiss as I would expect. (The speaker and output transformer are > fine, so it must be something wrong with the electronics.) In any > case, I can't proceed beyond this point with the schematic. Help! > > -Dave Drumheller > Bethesda, MD Are you certain of the model? What are the other markings on the chassis, and do you what year the model was produced (after such and such a year the small sets seem to be easier to ID by which years catalog they were in). Is there any mention of Simpson's in Canada? This sounds like a post 1960 set. Article: 339080 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: Radio "rich" areas of the country? References: <12ddcanlrvm6n43@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 01:58:06 -0500 Hagstar wrote: > In contrast Midwesterners don't get flak from their friends because they > have no 50" flatscreen TV or their pants still have cargo pockets ("How > 2004!"). You can just be a human being. You can keep old stuff around and > still have friends. You can have a old console in the garage and not have to > throw it out or fix it up Shabby Chic or turn it into a bar- it can just be > old and in the barn. > You've not met my wi...er, ex-wife. OTOH, but slightly OT, on the subject of 50" TV's: I just picked up a 46" rear projection Magnovox model. It's from '93, so almost qualifies as an antique, as big-screen TV's go. Brightness from all three bottles is very good. Likewise, convergence. The one problem it does have, is grunge growing in the coolant on the blue crt. Looking down at the face, it appears to be almost completely occluded. That said, it produces a viewable picture, with the only indications of the problem being a slight deficiency in blue, and a blue-ish halo around white text on black backgrounds. I'll eventually pull the lens (if not the whole tube), clean it out and replace the coolant. The problem most often affects the blue gun, with the green usually somewhat less affected. Mine has a few floaters in the green; but the red looks pristine. I'll eventually change the fluid in all three. From my research, the red is almost never affected by growth, but the fluid does tend to become discolored with age, regardless. Total cost (so far): $50, plus an old HK stereo receiver in trade. I'll nearly match that amount buying three bottles of coolant. To get back on topic, old radios are not all that common in this neck o' the woods (Middle Tennessee)...not unobtainable, but not plentiful (and not cheap when found). jak > John H. > > > Article: 339081 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Need a pair of balloon tubes Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 00:53:52 -0600 Message-ID: <7584-44D6E380-213@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net> References: I have been seeing 50`s on ebay lately go for under 50$ Article: 339082 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format From: "Hesham Elmokadem" References: <1154863371.274934.248830@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 08:35:56 GMT On 6-Aug-2006, DeserTBoB wrote: >> Earlier, DeserTBoB fantasized about images of you performing fellatio. Now you produce a fantasy image of him doing this. Who can doubt the passion that you two feel for each other? > > 'Scuse me while I go blow chunks. C'mon, Dibi! Yes, he's evil. You know that he's evil. But, still, You want him. You need him. You love him. Article: 339083 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: 7 Aug 2006 01:42:30 -0700 Message-ID: <1154940150.463498.309110@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Hesham Elmokadem wrote: > On 6-Aug-2006, DeserTBoB wrote: > > >> Earlier, DeserTBoB fantasized about images of you performing fellatio. Now you produce a fantasy image of him doing this. Who can doubt the passion that you two feel for each other? > > > > 'Scuse me while I go blow chunks. > > C'mon, Dibi! Yes, he's evil. You know that he's evil. But, still, > > You want him. > > You need him. > > You love him. Don't hire the preacher until you have the deposit on you! Article: 339084 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format From: "Hesham Elmokadem" References: <1154940150.463498.309110@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 09:38:59 GMT On 7-Aug-2006, "Steven" wrote: > Don't hire the preacher until you have the deposit on you! I'm doing my best to avoid having anything deposited on me in all this!!! Article: 339085 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: 7 Aug 2006 02:51:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1154944270.450373.255870@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: Hesham Elmokadem wrote: > On 7-Aug-2006, "Steven" wrote: > > > Don't hire the preacher until you have the deposit on you! > > I'm doing my best to avoid having anything deposited on me in all this!!! OY VEY INDEED Article: 339086 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44d71ac9$0$4520$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Knight Kit vintage resistors References: <1154711379.062196.94830@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44d4a2a9$0$4531$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <44d5d382$0$4530$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> Date: 07 Aug 2006 10:49:45 GMT Frank Dresser wrote: > wrote in message >> Frank Dresser wrote: >> > Some googling reveals that the mustard caps have been cloned: >> Only the insides. I am guessing they are being made by Iskra to Sozo >> specifications. > Sozo claims the capacitors are "Hand Made in the U.S.A. !" So, why do they look EXACTLY like some (East-)European capacitors that I have here? Nothing wrong with those, anyway. I would not trust a hand made capacitor, by the way. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 339087 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: david@drumheller.org Subject: Re: Need info on Silvertone radio, model 1024 Date: 7 Aug 2006 05:14:22 -0700 Message-ID: <1154952861.979175.76390@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154906226.197109.268220@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > Are you certain of the model? What are the other markings on the > chassis, and do you what year the model was produced (after such and > such a year the small sets seem to be easier to ID by which years > catalog they were in). Is there any mention of Simpson's in Canada? > This sounds like a post 1960 set. The sticker on the bottom of the set says Model 1024, and includes a diagram indicating the tube types. There's no mention of Simpsons. The style of cabinet certainly suggests that it's a post-1960 radio. The set is dead, although the tube filaments glow. Absolutely nothing is heard in the speaker--no hiss, no static, no hum. This suggests that none of the tubes is getting any plate voltage (or at least not the one in the final audio amp). Of course, it could be a bad tube. However, I have another radio that's an identical twin and have swapped the tubes between the two without success. (The radio worked when I first got it, so I'm assuming at this point that that tubes are OK.) The speaker is OK, as is the audio transformer. Anyhow, having the schematic would be helpful at this point. -Dave Article: 339088 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Sarasota Swap Meet Another Success! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 12:14:48 GMT Ahh -- a 3TMF. Yes, they're a little bit of a challenge, partly because the components are kinda hard to remove/replace on that PCB material. Don't overlook the electrolytics on these, just because they're newer and lower voltage. I don't routinely replace them as I do on older tube units, but I do suspect them when troubleshooting -- particularly on "rusty old units" that have been in the elements for awhile. If you start measuring voltages and they appear a little low, pull out the electrolytics and try again (on your regulated DC power supply of course). If the radio suddenly straightens out, there you are! As for that AK, I have it on just about every day in the shop. I've also got an H-500 TO (in great condition with retro battery), a Crosley Fiver and Crosley Jeweler's, Philco 54 (really clean but a project until I recap it), Silvertone farm radio, RCA T-8 cathedral, Zenith AM/FM table radio, Crosley clock radio, Knight receiver, Eico tuner, CGE midget radio (similar to RCA Little Nipper), and probably a couple of others I forgot to mention. Right now, as a "summer slow season project", I've agreed to fix up a Philco 41-605 for someone who wants to keep it as a family heirloom. Beautiful cabinet, cheap radio, power cord was toast. Soldered in another power cord for testing (with isolation of course) and it works, but it definitely needs a recap, and it's got that nice, colorful rubber wiring. The rubber is in surprisingly good condition, but I'm replacing it anyway, using new cloth wiring in the same colors. This is indeed a fun task, and I enjoy the aroma of the hot soldering iron on this wire :-). I'm doing a little each day, and right now I'm about 3/4 with the caps and 1/2 on the wiring. One other thing -- the dial string is broken. As the original string was still there, it appears there was no tensioning spring of any sort. I installed new string in the same manner, and tightened it as much as feasible, but it slips. Any comments out there? Before it's all over I may locate a usable spring and put it in. What the heck would I do with a Nocturne? I'd buy another car first (a friend has a nice 58 Buick for sale) but I don't know where to put it. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Tom Adkins" wrote in message news:T7mdnT2Ompd7MEvZnZ2dnUVZ_oSdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Gary Tayman wrote: >> The August 2006 Sarasota Meet is now in the history books. >> >> It was at last August's meet that I was so disappointed I tried to do >> something about it. We only had about a dozen people there, if that. So >> for the December meet we went hog wild on getting the word out, and >> December was the biggest meet we've had in years. Then came April, which >> is typically smaller, and was moved to the last Saturday which also hurt >> attendance, but was also boosted with the truckload of stuff we brought >> in. April was bigger than December. >> >> So here comes August -- deadsville, right? Bzzztt!! WRONG! It was >> hopping, probably at least as good as last December (although we were a >> little short with dealers). Everybody there is agreeing that this event >> is steadily growing, and not just a passing fluke. It is looking >> positive all the way. >> >> The winner of the Best of Show Trophy: I didn't get the name, but it was >> a 1923 A. C. Dayton radio. Second place went to Bernie, who brought a >> Radiola Crystal set for display. My Zenith H-500 TO, at third place, >> didn't win a trophy -- which means maybe we should have a third place >> from now on. :-) >> >> My goal is to get this meet on the map. Whether it's the same as >> Lansing, Kutztown, or others is yet to be determined, but I want this to >> be a respectable event -- one that people know is coming, and look >> forward to. We're getting there. >> >> I can only imagine what December (shudder!) will bring! >> > > Hey Gary, it sounds like "your" meet is growing and becoming popular. > Great job!! > > You need a few more "stationary radios" under your belt so that you can > enjoy the addiction as much as everyone else. ;) It seems as though Mr. > Auto Radio has dabbled into the unknown recently with an early AK AC set. > Maybe he wants another... We'll hook you, sooner or later Gary... laugh>...You'll laugh at all of those lowly car radios... laugh>.....You'll sell your soul for a Nocturn... ....fading...> > > Seriously, keep promoting the Sarasota meet. You're helping it grow. Keep > up the good work! (as I inspect this rusty 63 Ford radio). From suptjudatcomcastdotnet Fri Aug 11 00:12:04 EDT 2006 Article: 339089 of rec.antiques.radio+phono NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 07:19:36 -0500 From: "TerryJ" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: <-62dncJKnKLxgknZnZ2dnUVZ_sadnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Anyone ever replaced a 6V6 with a 5V6? Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 08:19:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 Message-ID: Lines: 24 NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.56.6.144 X-Trace: sv3-uZEqXJlSpsRDMuRU6QbarTwDfxY0XKzWdz216Te+FnrufuUHUJWa7GYrhyIISlGn/RinC9pGZGPkMtc!ACJQ2Rlac5EcAHwFUZoB7+vDzcBCra2959Ps4L3XTBX/VqPHwtt+5xD6NDFih0EuoC/gkVage4Bf!GbbW4ekI9A== X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:339089 I went back to the metal 6V6s. Not matched very well but it ain't HiFi anyway. :) "wa2mze(spamless)" <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:W8eBg.7893$RX2.7321@bignews4.bellsouth.net... > TerryJ wrote: >> $3.00 vs. $17.00 for 6V6. >> > Amazingly most heater / cathode tubes are quite tolerant of the voltage > applied to the heater. If you run a 5v6 off 6v it will run a bit hotter > and might not last as long, but will work quite well. If you run a tube > at lower voltage than designed it will also run well, if you reduce the > ratings. > > I once built a phono - oscillator using a 14Q7. I actually ran the tube > off a small power transformer with a 6.3v heater winding, so the tube ran > and HALF it's normal heater voltage. It worked just fine! > > Early tube computers used 6.3v tubes with 5v on the heaters with the idea > of getting longer life out of the tubes by de-rating them. (with 20,000 > tubes in a computer they didn't want to keep changing tubes every day!) Article: 339090 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Radio "rich" areas of the country? Message-ID: <3KGBg.3552$7m5.974@trnddc05> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 12:54:23 GMT "Tom Adkins" wrote in message news:d96dnZGIPJAgO0vZnZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@comcast.com... > I was reading another thread when Gary Tayman said:"Although this area, > unlike Pennsylvania or Ohio, is not full of really old houses with these > gems in > their attics...." > I certainly don't take exception to Gary and don't mean to quote him out > of context. His comment made me think about many other times that I've > heard the same sentiment. You're not out of context at all -- that's exactly what I meant. In places like New York, household goods are such a small part of the family budget, and space is at such a premium, that anything slightly old or obsolete gets pitched. In contrast, in the "slower" midwest, families don't make nearly as much, or spend nearly as much, nor do they move around much. People there probably live within a block of their great-grandparents' house, if not inside it. So when something like an old radio gets placed in a back room or attic, it can remain there for generations. As for Jak's comment, it's slightly surprising that there's a lack of old sets in Tennessee; I'd think there would be a number -- unless the people there were so poor they couldn't afford one in the first place. As for Florida: 100 years ago this place was populated only by alligators, and maybe a few rodents which provided dinner for the alligators. There were a few people in the panhandle, there were a few in Key West (accessible by boat only), and only a handful of brave cowboys and pioneers in between, neither of which had much contact with the outside world. There was indeed a major influx of population during the 1920's, with people who might have bought radios if only there were stations to listen to, but this pretty much stopped during the 1930's. The homes and general population that were here during World War II comprise only a tiny fraction of what's here today -- EVERYBODY moved here from somewhere else, often to retire. When moving cross-country, or even from Canada, I doubt if too many people are bringing their 1938 Midwest consoles with them, unless they're already avid collectors. Table radios, maybe -- but I'm sure a lot of those were thrown out as well in the move. However, one thing that indeed seems to migrate with the owners is old records. Doug Allen, owner of Bananas Records in St. Pete, has told me several times that the Tampa Bay area seems to have more 78rpm records than anywhere else in the entire country. His store is literally loaded with them, although they're not prominently displayed because nobody buys them. I've seen his stash, which can be described in one word -- Wow! If you have a six-week vacation to kill, you can go through these records and possibly find some real jewels -- but it will indeed take that long, as they are barely categorized at all. Remembering the April swap meet, when we took 9 crates of 78's to sell and sold most of them, I think I have an outlet for Doug -- and he has made me an offer to do just that if I do it in bulk. Still, it's a lot of time, storage, and gas to even get a tiny smidgeon of it there, so it's hardly profitable to do so -- although it indeed put these records back into caring hands. Still, to summarize this thread, it is indeed interesting to see where this stuff lands, in relation to our nation's geography. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 339091 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: BOOKS FOR SALE, POSTPAID, ALL LIKE NEW Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 08:42:09 -0500 Message-ID: <12044-44D74331-1059@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <11567-44CFE80F-731@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> ALL REMAINING VOLUMES TO BE SOLD AT $5.00 UNDER THE PREVIOUS PRICE, POSTAGE PAID AS BEFORE. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 339092 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1154711379.062196.94830@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44d4a2a9$0$4531$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <44d5d382$0$4530$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <44d71ac9$0$4520$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> Subject: Re: Knight Kit vintage resistors Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 10:01:23 -0400 wrote in message news:44d71ac9$0$4520$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl... > Frank Dresser wrote: >> wrote in message >>> Frank Dresser wrote: >>> > Some googling reveals that the mustard caps have been cloned: >>> Only the insides. I am guessing they are being made by Iskra to Sozo >>> specifications. >> Sozo claims the capacitors are "Hand Made in the U.S.A. !" > > So, why do they look EXACTLY like some (East-)European capacitors that I > have here? Nothing wrong with those, anyway. I would not trust a hand made > capacitor, by the way. > > -- > Met vriendelijke groet, > > Maarten Bakker. Welcome to the world of audio BS. Heck, here's a comment from that website which tells all: "Well, I have built 2 identical Metro 100 watt clones except one with SOZO caps and one that has NOS mustards that I paid a ridiculous amount of money for. The results? With my Les Paul 1959R, I can't tell the difference between the two amps. They sound identical! Well, at least the one with the mustards look cool. " Conclusion, there is no difference betwen caps..."we" knew that, right ? Syl Article: 339093 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44D74B7D.9080001@NOSPAMcomcast.net> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 10:17:33 -0400 From: Aaron Hunter Subject: Re: Need info on Silvertone radio, model 1024 References: <1154906226.197109.268220@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1154930631.451222.292110@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154952861.979175.76390@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Dave A search of Sam's Photofacts shows it in set 540-14. Aaron david@drumheller.org wrote: > Steven wrote: > > >>Are you certain of the model? What are the other markings on the >>chassis, and do you what year the model was produced (after such and >>such a year the small sets seem to be easier to ID by which years >>catalog they were in). Is there any mention of Simpson's in Canada? >>This sounds like a post 1960 set. > > > The sticker on the bottom of the set says Model 1024, and includes a > diagram indicating the tube types. There's no mention of Simpsons. > The style of cabinet certainly suggests that it's a post-1960 radio. > > The set is dead, although the tube filaments glow. Absolutely nothing > is heard in the speaker--no hiss, no static, no hum. This suggests > that none of the tubes is getting any plate voltage (or at least not > the one in the final audio amp). Of course, it could be a bad tube. > However, I have another radio that's an identical twin and have swapped > the tubes between the two without success. (The radio worked when I > first got it, so I'm assuming at this point that that tubes are OK.) > The speaker is OK, as is the audio transformer. Anyhow, having the > schematic would be helpful at this point. > > -Dave > Article: 339094 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <12dccm5d69lh7ed@corp.supernews.com> <2eydnV-HIOXu6UvZnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Batgain 16B Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 14:58:55 GMT "Art's Antique Radios" wrote in message news:2eydnV-HIOXu6UvZnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@comcast.com... > BIN was $135 > That was a steal at $135.00. They guy who opened the bidding did the seller a favor though, I bet it goes well over $135.00. I paid about twice that for mine a few years ago and felt I got a deal, fortunately I got it from a local collector so did not have to deal with shipping. That was my first high end set and I really learned to appreciate how well these sets perform when restored. Larry Fowkes Article: 339095 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <3KGBg.3552$7m5.974@trnddc05> Subject: Re: Radio "rich" areas of the country? Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 11:19:47 -0400 Message-ID: Gary, you say "New York" as if its one place. NYC is one urban kind of thing, but UPSTATE NY is a very rural place mostly! And, a good area for radio hunting overall. Its sparsely populated in the northern areas, like the Adarondecks. I had a friend who lived near Cooperstown. That's where I found my only Walton, a 7 tuber, untouched. I had it refinished (perfectly) and I restored the chassis... this being about 8 years ago. My buddy there always said the Yankees upstate hold on to everything forever, and he's right. Mark Oppat "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:3KGBg.3552$7m5.974@trnddc05... > > "Tom Adkins" wrote in message > news:d96dnZGIPJAgO0vZnZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > I was reading another thread when Gary Tayman said:"Although this area, > > unlike Pennsylvania or Ohio, is not full of really old houses with these > > gems in > > their attics...." > > I certainly don't take exception to Gary and don't mean to quote him out > > of context. His comment made me think about many other times that I've > > heard the same sentiment. > > You're not out of context at all -- that's exactly what I meant. > > In places like New York, household goods are such a small part of the family > budget, and space is at such a premium, that anything slightly old or > obsolete gets pitched. In contrast, in the "slower" midwest, families don't > make nearly as much, or spend nearly as much, nor do they move around much. > People there probably live within a block of their great-grandparents' > house, if not inside it. So when something like an old radio gets placed in > a back room or attic, it can remain there for generations. > > As for Jak's comment, it's slightly surprising that there's a lack of old > sets in Tennessee; I'd think there would be a number -- unless the people > there were so poor they couldn't afford one in the first place. > > As for Florida: 100 years ago this place was populated only by alligators, > and maybe a few rodents which provided dinner for the alligators. There > were a few people in the panhandle, there were a few in Key West (accessible > by boat only), and only a handful of brave cowboys and pioneers in between, > neither of which had much contact with the outside world. There was indeed > a major influx of population during the 1920's, with people who might have > bought radios if only there were stations to listen to, but this pretty much > stopped during the 1930's. The homes and general population that were here > during World War II comprise only a tiny fraction of what's here today -- > EVERYBODY moved here from somewhere else, often to retire. > > When moving cross-country, or even from Canada, I doubt if too many people > are bringing their 1938 Midwest consoles with them, unless they're already > avid collectors. Table radios, maybe -- but I'm sure a lot of those were > thrown out as well in the move. However, one thing that indeed seems to > migrate with the owners is old records. Doug Allen, owner of Bananas > Records in St. Pete, has told me several times that the Tampa Bay area seems > to have more 78rpm records than anywhere else in the entire country. His > store is literally loaded with them, although they're not prominently > displayed because nobody buys them. I've seen his stash, which can be > described in one word -- Wow! If you have a six-week vacation to kill, you > can go through these records and possibly find some real jewels -- but it > will indeed take that long, as they are barely categorized at all. > > Remembering the April swap meet, when we took 9 crates of 78's to sell and > sold most of them, I think I have an outlet for Doug -- and he has made me > an offer to do just that if I do it in bulk. Still, it's a lot of time, > storage, and gas to even get a tiny smidgeon of it there, so it's hardly > profitable to do so -- although it indeed put these records back into caring > hands. > > Still, to summarize this thread, it is indeed interesting to see where this > stuff lands, in relation to our nation's geography. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > Article: 339096 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: Radio "rich" areas of the country? Date: 7 Aug 2006 08:32:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1154964738.855393.208910@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Tom Adkins wrote: > I was reading another thread when Gary Tayman said:"Although this area, unlike > Pennsylvania or Ohio, is not full of really old houses with these gems in > their attics...." > I certainly don't take exception to Gary and don't mean to quote him out of context. > His comment made me think about many other times that I've heard the same sentiment. > I'm in the Cleveland area and would agree that antique radios and phonographs that are > of interest here on RAR+P are pretty easy to find in northern Ohio compared to other > areas of the country. I can remember some years ago when they seemed to be falling out > of the sky, so to speak. > I've always thought, though, that the larger east coast cities and their outlying > areas would be better "radio finding" areas than my portion of the country, meaning > PA, OH, IN, MI, etc. > I can understand why there are fewer radios of our interest located west of the > Mississippi River and the seeming dearth of radios further West, but why would the > (roughly) Great Lakes region be rife with attic treasures as opposed to the East Coast? > I'm certainly not complaining, just wondering (as I prop the door open with, yet > another, one of those pesky AK 10-c Breadboards ;) ) > Any thoughts? lots of reasons for some areas of the country being radio gold mines. periods of economic development, overall economic stability, migration of people into certain areas during and right after the golden radio age. in other words, owners of radios that were bought in the thirties, took them with them when they moved to other states looking for employment in foundries, auto plants etc..after the war. Article: 339097 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "chilichick" Subject: Re: Anyone ever heard of a Melodist phono player Date: 7 Aug 2006 08:49:59 -0700 Message-ID: <1154965799.717023.169120@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154732994.268922.256130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> lherault@bu.edu wrote: > There were lots and lots of brands of phonos made, most with generic parts. > Often they were sold by a particular department store chain or furniture > company. I'll bet that if you look at the motor it probably has a plate on > it that says "Saal" (a nice, quiet running motor by the way). Usually, the > reproducer used a mica diaphragm and the reproducer would swivel so that it > could play laterally recorded records such as Victor and Columbia or > vertically recorded records such as Pathe, which used a sapphire ball stylus > (is that what your bulbus needle is?) or a more pointed one to play Edison's > thick Diamond Discs (not recommened by Edison). Steel needles should be > used for only one record and then thrown away. Another source of > information is Phono-L a mailing list for phonograph collectors. You can > join by visiting www.oldcrank.com > > Ron L Hey Ron, Thanks for the update, I'm curious now and will check the motor. and oldcrank.com Lesvia Article: 339098 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: grundig 3059 Date: 7 Aug 2006 10:18:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1154971104.495904.164260@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154263570.512422.192940@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> marty wrote: > Gentlemen: > > Thanks for all of your advice. I have been traveling a lot and have not > had time to spend much time with the radio or pull the chassis out > again. > > I put in a .5a fuse and the radio powered up normally. Same as before, > no sound. Fuse did not blow. When I touched the voltmeter to Pin 5 of > the EL95 tubes there was an audible "click" from the speaker. An audible click is very good news as it suggests very strongly that the OPT is fine. So, now back to that pesky resistor. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 339099 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Anyone ever heard of a Melodist phono player Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 12:14:21 -0500 Message-ID: <17305-44D774ED-955@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <5DTAg.33$1i.29@trndny08> Many years ago,I read that steel needles shouldn't be used often. cuhulin Article: 339100 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Anyone ever heard of a Melodist phono player Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 12:18:26 -0500 Message-ID: <17306-44D775E2-186@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <5DTAg.33$1i.29@trndny08> Have you seen the movie? The Story of G.I.Joe.The guy was looking for a wind up phonograph player so he could listen to his son's voice.He finally located a phonograph player but it played/turned backwards.For a needle,he broke off the end of a safety pin. cuhulin Article: 339101 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Whoever Subject: Re: Victrolas, anyone? References: <1154370912.774566.125330@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 17:34:34 GMT Just thought I'd drop this in: someone actually tore up an old gramophone to shove a computer into it! http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/gramaphone-itx-hd/ Article: 339102 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Radio "rich" areas of the country? Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 12:42:58 -0500 Message-ID: <17305-44D77BA2-956@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <3KGBg.3552$7m5.974@trnddc05> Dont stack records too high,especially in very warm areas such as garages.The heat can make them warp and lop sided.Every time I go to the Goodwill store there is always a lot of records there for sale. I have bought a lot of old,old radios (a few of the radios also have built in phonographs,some of them are AM/FM/Shortwave radios,one of them is a 1956 or 1957 Grundig AM/FM/Shortwave/Phonograph wooden cabinet floor model radio,another one is a big Telefunken Opus 7 AM/FM/Shortwave wooden cabinet table model radio.I think it dates back to the late 1950's or somewhere in the 1960's) before at places such as Goodwill and Salvation Army and junk shops and flea markets.I have a a G.E.portable tv set here that I bought for $5.00 at the Salvation Army thrift store,it doesn't work though. cuhulin Article: 339103 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Victrolas, anyone? Date: 7 Aug 2006 11:28:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1154975301.613329.68280@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154370912.774566.125330@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Just kidding. See you back on the planet earth. Steven wrote: > RadioGary wrote: > > Why does this guy remind me of Clifford Clavin on Cheers? > > If MS. Sefton reminds you of John Ratzenberger, she may need a new perm. Article: 339104 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Radio "rich" areas of the country? Date: 7 Aug 2006 11:45:49 -0700 Message-ID: <1154976349.115330.277920@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: Tom Adkins wrote: > I was reading another thread when Gary Tayman said:"Although this area, unlike > Pennsylvania or Ohio, is not full of really old houses with these gems in > their attics...." > I certainly don't take exception to Gary and don't mean to quote him out of context. > His comment made me think about many other times that I've heard the same sentiment. > I'm in the Cleveland area and would agree that antique radios and phonographs that are > of interest here on RAR+P are pretty easy to find in northern Ohio compared to other > areas of the country. I can remember some years ago when they seemed to be falling out > of the sky, so to speak. > I've always thought, though, that the larger east coast cities and their outlying > areas would be better "radio finding" areas than my portion of the country, meaning > PA, OH, IN, MI, etc. > I can understand why there are fewer radios of our interest located west of the > Mississippi River and the seeming dearth of radios further West, but why would the > (roughly) Great Lakes region be rife with attic treasures as opposed to the East Coast? > I'm certainly not complaining, just wondering (as I prop the door open with, yet > another, one of those pesky AK 10-c Breadboards ;) ) > Any thoughts? Article: 339105 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Beloved Leader" Subject: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Date: 7 Aug 2006 11:57:40 -0700 Message-ID: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Freberg Actually, it is on topic a little, as he took over Jack Benny's time slot in 1957, when his radio show aired. I used to have the album of that (on Capitol, maybe?), but I gave it to someone who appreciated it a lot more years and years ago. Surely it's available on CD now. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stan_Freberg_Show Article: 339106 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Radio "rich" areas of the country? Date: 7 Aug 2006 11:58:04 -0700 Message-ID: <1154977084.277234.277330@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: >Any thoughts? Let's try this again: OK... Start with money. The east coast had lots of it. And it was concentrated in various areas, mostly (but not always) cities. Radios were expensive, even kits. Access to Electricity: Most of the East Coast had electricity before radios even deeply into the tube era (Philadelphia had mains-power (commonly installed in most houses) by 1913. Other cities around the same time. Broadcast Sources: Again, it happened in the east first, and from there in population centers. Education: Technology kinda-sorta started in the East w/RCA, Philco, Edison, General Electric and much more. Local Economics: A farmer working from hand-to-mouth during the dust-bowl-into-the-depression days (1930/31 and so forth) would not likely purchase a radio at a time when a single tube might cost $5. Population Density: Most people, most radios. All anecdotal, of course, but my thoughts on the subject. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 339107 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Koste" Subject: Re: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Date: 7 Aug 2006 12:09:23 -0700 Message-ID: <1154977763.667654.117960@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Bang Gunleigh, US Marshall Fields...Herman Horne on HiFi...The Banana Boat Song ("I don't dig spiders, man...") Amazing how well his topical satire has held up over the years. Someone get the lights and turn off the bubble machine. Mike Koste Gobs of Knobs Ambler, PA Article: 339108 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Koste" Subject: Re: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Date: 7 Aug 2006 12:10:04 -0700 Message-ID: <1154977804.411705.82140@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Bang Gunleigh, US Marshall Fields...Herman Horne on HiFi...The Banana Boat Song ("I don't dig spiders, man...") Amazing how well his topical satire has held up over the years. Someone get the lights and turn off the bubble machine. Mike Koste Gobs of Knobs Ambler, PA From daxtATpacifierDOTcom Fri Aug 11 00:12:12 EDT 2006 Article: 339109 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Axt" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 12:58:22 -0700 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <12df6p7gugcqo9a@corp.supernews.com> References: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2869 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 22 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!sn-xt-sjc-03!sn-xt-sjc-09!sn-post-sjc-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:339109 "Beloved Leader" wrote in message news:1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Freberg > > Actually, it is on topic a little, as he took over Jack Benny's time > slot in 1957, when his radio show aired. I used to have the album of > that (on Capitol, maybe?), but I gave it to someone who appreciated it > a lot more years and years ago. Surely it's available on CD now. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stan_Freberg_Show > Listening to Stan Freberg's The United States of America Volume One should be mandatory for all grade school students or high school students. Volume Two is not as funny but still good listening. My local public radio station plays Volume One in its entirety every 4th of July. -DA Article: 339110 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob Armstrong" Subject: Applications where tubes are still king?? Date: 7 Aug 2006 13:02:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> I was asked to write a short article for an electronics magazine about applications where, even today in the 21st century, vacuum tubes still have not been replaced by solid state devices. One obvious one is audio - both the "Glass Audio" sound reproduction types as well as the musical instrument amplifiers sound production types. I doubt there's any serious guitarist that would even consider using a solid state amp. Another is microwave ovens - not just the one in your kitchen (although that magnetron is still a tube too!) but also the big industrial RF heating ones. And of course there are still countless CRTs of all shapes and sizes, although LCDs and other display technologies are starting to make inroads, still if you want to build a cheap display or a really good display a CRT is the choice. And the last one I came up with is radio transmitters. If you want to build a 50kW+ radio/TV station, then the final amp is going to be a tube. AFAIK there's still no other option. But I'd like to find more. Am I missing any applications where vacuum tubes are still the preferred choice or the only choice? Thanks, Bob Armstrong Article: 339111 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nesesu" Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? Date: 7 Aug 2006 13:17:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1154981864.318520.65810@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Bob, a few years ago they were still using tubes [nuvistors] in some 'down hole' telemetry units in the oil industry where the the temperatures were in the 200C+ range and transistor/IC circuits could not handle it. Not sure if this is still the case today. Also consider that vacuum deposition is done in a giant vacuum tube with directly heated cathode and the object as the plate, and also a scanning electron microscope is also a vacuum tube somewhat like a CRT. Somewhat akin to the tube guitar amps are the test instruments made in the tube era that were never replaced with SS versions and are still in use today, though long since discontinued manufacture. Neil S. Bob Armstrong wrote: > I was asked to write a short article for an electronics magazine > about applications where, even today in the 21st century, vacuum tubes > still have not been replaced by solid state devices. > > One obvious one is audio - both the "Glass Audio" sound reproduction > types as well as the musical instrument amplifiers sound production > types. I doubt there's any serious guitarist that would even consider > using a solid state amp. > > Another is microwave ovens - not just the one in your kitchen > (although that magnetron is still a tube too!) but also the big > industrial RF heating ones. > > And of course there are still countless CRTs of all shapes and sizes, > although LCDs and other display technologies are starting to make > inroads, still if you want to build a cheap display or a really good > display a CRT is the choice. > > And the last one I came up with is radio transmitters. If you want > to build a 50kW+ radio/TV station, then the final amp is going to be a > tube. AFAIK there's still no other option. > > But I'd like to find more. Am I missing any applications where > vacuum tubes are still the preferred choice or the only choice? > > Thanks, > Bob Armstrong Article: 339112 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Beloved Leader" Subject: Re: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Date: 7 Aug 2006 13:22:27 -0700 Message-ID: <1154982147.724251.190140@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> David Axt wrote: > Listening to Stan Freberg's The United States of America Volume One should > be mandatory for all grade school students or high school students. OK, people remember it. Well, good. My first album was "A Child's Garden of Freberg." How in the world I ever selected that, I have no idea. Freberg is getting an award on Saturday. http://www.emmys.org/media/releases/2006/rel_laarea_gov.php Daws Butler's site has synopses of all the shows too. Interview: http://www.dawsbutler.com/Freberg.htm The show: http://www.dawsbutler.com/Freberg1.htm Article: 339113 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob Armstrong" Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? Date: 7 Aug 2006 13:38:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1154983124.266964.276710@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> nesesu wrote: > Bob, a few years ago they were still using tubes [nuvistors] in some > 'down hole' telemetry units in the oil industry where the the > temperatures were in the 200C+ range and transistor/IC circuits could > not handle it. Not sure if this is still the case today. Neil, Do you know any company names or web pages or any other pointers? Thanks, Bob Article: 339114 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob Armstrong" Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? Date: 7 Aug 2006 13:40:32 -0700 Message-ID: <1154983232.223760.235410@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Bob Armstrong wrote: > .... That makes me think of another one - I assume X-Ray machines still use tubes to generate the xrays. Does anybody know a manufacturer of such tubes? Bob Article: 339115 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Koste" Subject: Re: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Date: 7 Aug 2006 13:43:03 -0700 Message-ID: <1154983383.271331.300750@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> > David Axt wrote: > > Listening to Stan Freberg's The United States of America Volume One should > > be mandatory for all grade school students or high school students. > "....take an Indian to lunch this week". Article: 339116 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: Knight Kit vintage resistors Date: 7 Aug 2006 14:02:15 -0700 Message-ID: <1154984534.916394.306360@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154711379.062196.94830@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Buck Frobisher wrote: > > Mustard caps ? > > > > Syl > > Yes, you will relish them, Syl. :) > > Frank I just hope we can catch-up with this old technology! Was restoring some Jensen TF-3 speakers and KLH-20's on the weekend (both ca. 1960) and pulled & replaced all the old caps in the crossovers. I was thinking I probably could sell em on ebay for a bundle. Those old speaks sure sounded good with some new Daytons! Tox Article: 339117 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "J. Severyn" References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 14:08:28 -0700 Message-ID: Of course the lowly fluorescent tube used both in overhead lighting fixtures and compact fluorescent bulbs are vacuum tubes, with a small amount of mercury vapor. Maybe the Hg vapor disqualifies them for your article, but a large part of our lighting is provided by these tubes. John Severyn "Bob Armstrong" wrote in message news:1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > I was asked to write a short article for an electronics magazine > about applications where, even today in the 21st century, vacuum tubes > still have not been replaced by solid state devices. > > One obvious one is audio - both the "Glass Audio" sound reproduction > types as well as the musical instrument amplifiers sound production > types. I doubt there's any serious guitarist that would even consider > using a solid state amp. > > Another is microwave ovens - not just the one in your kitchen > (although that magnetron is still a tube too!) but also the big > industrial RF heating ones. > > And of course there are still countless CRTs of all shapes and sizes, > although LCDs and other display technologies are starting to make > inroads, still if you want to build a cheap display or a really good > display a CRT is the choice. > > And the last one I came up with is radio transmitters. If you want > to build a 50kW+ radio/TV station, then the final amp is going to be a > tube. AFAIK there's still no other option. > > But I'd like to find more. Am I missing any applications where > vacuum tubes are still the preferred choice or the only choice? > > Thanks, > Bob Armstrong > Article: 339118 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: Radio "rich" areas of the country? References: <3KGBg.3552$7m5.974@trnddc05> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 16:11:05 -0500 Gary Tayman wrote: > "Tom Adkins" wrote in message > news:d96dnZGIPJAgO0vZnZ2dnUVZ_sqdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> I was reading another thread when Gary Tayman said:"Although this area, >> unlike Pennsylvania or Ohio, is not full of really old houses with these >> gems in >> their attics...." >> I certainly don't take exception to Gary and don't mean to quote him out >> of context. His comment made me think about many other times that I've >> heard the same sentiment. > > You're not out of context at all -- that's exactly what I meant. > > In places like New York, household goods are such a small part of the family > budget, and space is at such a premium, that anything slightly old or > obsolete gets pitched. In contrast, in the "slower" midwest, families don't > make nearly as much, or spend nearly as much, nor do they move around much. > People there probably live within a block of their great-grandparents' > house, if not inside it. So when something like an old radio gets placed in > a back room or attic, it can remain there for generations. > > As for Jak's comment, it's slightly surprising that there's a lack of old > sets in Tennessee; I'd think there would be a number -- unless the people > there were so poor they couldn't afford one in the first place. I think it was a lack of electricity. Half the radios I see locally are farm sets. Although the cities had juice earlier, TVA electrified most of the region in the 30's.... jak Article: 339119 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "J. Severyn" References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154983232.223760.235410@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 14:11:40 -0700 Message-ID: Try Varian, Philips, GE to name a few. John Severyn "Bob Armstrong" wrote in message news:1154983232.223760.235410@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > > Bob Armstrong wrote: >> .... > > That makes me think of another one - I assume X-Ray machines still > use tubes to generate the xrays. Does anybody know a manufacturer of > such tubes? > > Bob > Article: 339120 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 14:20:57 -0700 Message-ID: <7146-44D7AEB9-631@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> References: <1154983232.223760.235410@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Bob: I have video surveillance camera using a vidacon tube that's been in use 24/7 since Oct. 1993. It's outlived several CCD-based cameras and still sends a perfect picture. So maybe the vidacon is "still king" in terms of longevity, in this instance at least. Bill(oc) Article: 339121 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "scw223" Subject: Introducing myself and a couple requests if possible Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:59:38 GMT Hi all a quick hello and to introduce myself , I am mike husli and am new to the group . while I have worked on tv's and such for years now, I am relatively new to radio's. i have now in my possession a stewart warner r176 and an arvin 751-tm. I am looking for service manuals and schematics for both. i also need a manual for a supreme instruments model 576 signal generator. any help(photocopies or pdf) would be much apreciated . even if someone could point me in the correct direction would be great Article: 339122 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sofa Slug Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 22:01:01 GMT Bob Armstrong wrote: > I was asked to write a short article for an electronics magazine > about applications where, even today in the 21st century, vacuum tubes > still have not been replaced by solid state devices. > > One obvious one is audio - both the "Glass Audio" sound reproduction > types as well as the musical instrument amplifiers sound production > types. I doubt there's any serious guitarist that would even consider > using a solid state amp. > > Another is microwave ovens - not just the one in your kitchen > (although that magnetron is still a tube too!) but also the big > industrial RF heating ones. > > And of course there are still countless CRTs of all shapes and sizes, > although LCDs and other display technologies are starting to make > inroads, still if you want to build a cheap display or a really good > display a CRT is the choice. > > And the last one I came up with is radio transmitters. If you want > to build a 50kW+ radio/TV station, then the final amp is going to be a > tube. AFAIK there's still no other option. > > But I'd like to find more. Am I missing any applications where > vacuum tubes are still the preferred choice or the only choice? > > Thanks, > Bob Armstrong > Due to the vacuum tube's resistance to EMP (electromagnetic pulse), the Soviets often used tube based avionics in their cold war era military aircraft. I wouldn't be surprised if our military (or that of some other country) isn't still using a few tubes somewhere in classified gear for just this reason. Article: 339123 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: prototech@usa.net Subject: Re: FA: Motorola MDA1591-3 Solid-State Bridge Rectifiers octal tube base (20 N.O.S.) Date: 7 Aug 2006 15:09:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1154988558.625745.52770@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1154544753.793384.49800@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> x-no-archive: yes These have been relisted for half off. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190017902392 > FA: 20 Motorola MDA1591-3 solid state rectifiers (plus 2 MDA1591-2 > rectifiers as a bonus). > > See auction listing for photo & diagram > > I was told the MDA1591-3 is rated at 200V 4 amps with a 100uS recovery > time. > > New old stock (from about 1969-1972) solid state replacements for > tube-type rectifiers used in guitar amplifiers, tube audio amps, > shortwave radios, ham radios, etc. > > Non-US buyers must pay by PayPal and include additional amont for > postage. > > NOTE: I don't have the data sheet for this, but I did verify the > diagram. If you happen to have an old Motorola Master Index or Master > Selction Guide that has the data for this, I would appreciate a scan or > > a link. Any data is helpful. > > Please e-mail with any questions. Thanks very much! > > other keywords: octal base diode Moto n.o.s. solid-state Article: 339124 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nesesu" Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? Date: 7 Aug 2006 15:14:35 -0700 Message-ID: <1154988875.165487.95410@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> I really don't know who made the equipment, Bob, but we were working with Schlumberger on some support equipment at the time. I rather think it was them, perhaps Hughes, and one other company I cannot recall that made the majority of down hole instruments. The subject only came up since thay needed about 75-100V at an amp or so at the end of 20,000 ft of small diameter down hole cable, and we were wondering what they needed that high a voltage for. It was for tube bias and the filaments were in series across it as well. Neil S. Bob Armstrong wrote: > nesesu wrote: > > Bob, a few years ago they were still using tubes [nuvistors] in some > > 'down hole' telemetry units in the oil industry where the the > > temperatures were in the 200C+ range and transistor/IC circuits could > > not handle it. Not sure if this is still the case today. > > Neil, > > Do you know any company names or web pages or any other pointers? > > Thanks, > Bob Article: 339125 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Subject: Re: FA: Motorola MDA1591-3 Solid-State Bridge Rectifiers octal tube Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 15:25:26 -0700 Message-ID: <12dffe69fon0idb@corp.supernews.com> References: <1154544753.793384.49800@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1154988558.625745.52770@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Did you warn buyers about increased B+, need to rebias, and possible over voltage on electrolytics? prototech@usa.net wrote: > x-no-archive: yes > > These have been relisted for half off. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190017902392 > > >>FA: 20 Motorola MDA1591-3 solid state rectifiers (plus 2 MDA1591-2 >>rectifiers as a bonus). >> >>See auction listing for photo & diagram >> >>I was told the MDA1591-3 is rated at 200V 4 amps with a 100uS recovery >>time. >> >>New old stock (from about 1969-1972) solid state replacements for >>tube-type rectifiers used in guitar amplifiers, tube audio amps, >>shortwave radios, ham radios, etc. >> >>Non-US buyers must pay by PayPal and include additional amont for >>postage. >> >>NOTE: I don't have the data sheet for this, but I did verify the >>diagram. If you happen to have an old Motorola Master Index or Master >>Selction Guide that has the data for this, I would appreciate a scan or >> >>a link. Any data is helpful. >> >>Please e-mail with any questions. Thanks very much! >> >>other keywords: octal base diode Moto n.o.s. solid-state > > Article: 339126 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: Radio "rich" areas of the country? Date: 7 Aug 2006 15:38:28 -0700 Message-ID: <1154990308.188484.138410@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: Peter Wieck wrote: > >Any thoughts? > > Let's try this again: > > OK... Start with money. > > The east coast had lots of it. And it was concentrated in various > areas, mostly (but not always) cities. Radios were expensive, even > kits. > > Access to Electricity: > Most of the East Coast had electricity before radios even deeply into > the tube era (Philadelphia had mains-power (commonly installed in most > houses) by 1913. Other cities around the same time. > > Broadcast Sources: > > Again, it happened in the east first, and from there in population > centers. > > Education: Technology kinda-sorta started in the East w/RCA, Philco, > Edison, General Electric and much more. > > Local Economics: A farmer working from hand-to-mouth during the > dust-bowl-into-the-depression days (1930/31 and so forth) would not > likely purchase a radio at a time when a single tube might cost $5. > > Population Density: Most people, most radios. > > All anecdotal, of course, but my thoughts on the subject. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA Money is a big issue...disposable income. Consider my Capehart 410H. Retail price in 1940 was $1145. A new top of the line Pontiac with straight eight retailed for less than $1100. The original owner of the Capehart was a 2 income family in Denver. The man was a reporter for the Denver Post and the woman was a real estate agent. How many 12 tube Waltons would $1145 buy? At app. $100 each that's about 11. How many families in Denver could afford a Capehart? Only a few. How many could afford a Walton? A lot more, but not nearly as many as in the densely populated cities in the midwest and east. Survivability is another issue- who would keep an old radio and for how long? In the 60's and 70's most tube radios were considered reminders of the bad times of the depression so they were disposable. There were always a lot of folks however who kept everything just in case. The depression taught them to not throw away anything until it was completely used up or totally trashed. Lots of radios were put away in barns, attics, and cellars where they mostly turned to rusty, mouse-eaten rubbish. Article: 339127 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Someone in Kentucky...Think I found another, need a scope Date: 7 Aug 2006 16:30:29 -0700 Message-ID: <1154993429.114318.155650@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154482416.063476.246370@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I still have the Kentucky sets in mind should they not sell and I don't get the other Sencore unit I bid on. I have just over four days til it closes. To the other interested party...the model should be VA48 for the video tester you want. Article: 339128 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Message-ID: <4vjfd2d96p8s43c50tqevlltktmkhpauck@4ax.com> References: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <12df6p7gugcqo9a@corp.supernews.com> <1154982147.724251.190140@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154983383.271331.300750@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 23:42:55 GMT On 7 Aug 2006 13:43:03 -0700, "Mike Koste" wrote: > > >> David Axt wrote: >> > Listening to Stan Freberg's The United States of America Volume One should >> > be mandatory for all grade school students or high school students. >> >"....take an Indian to lunch this week". Show him we're a regular bunch, this week. Article: 339129 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 16:50:48 -0700 Message-ID: > Actually, it is on topic a little, as he took over Jack Benny's time > slot in 1957, when his radio show aired. I used to have the album of > that (on Capitol, maybe?), but I gave it to someone who appreciated it > a lot more years and years ago. Surely it's available on CD now. Not necessarily. Check before you get rid of the LP. Two sets, covering the 15 shows, were issued. The first is made from multi-generational dubs, and is quite dark and dull. When I complained to the company, they obtained much better sounding tapes from June Foray for the second set. I don't know if either is still in print. Article: 339130 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Introducing myself and a couple requests if possible Date: 7 Aug 2006 16:51:58 -0700 Message-ID: <1154994717.933284.286620@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: scw223 wrote: > Hi all a quick hello and to introduce myself , I am mike husli and am new to > the group . while I have worked on tv's and such for years now, I am > relatively new to radio's. i have now in my possession a stewart warner r176 > and an arvin 751-tm. I am looking for service manuals and schematics for > both. i also need a manual for a supreme instruments model 576 signal > generator. any help(photocopies or pdf) would be much apreciated . even if > someone could point me in the correct direction would be great Welcome, Mike. Have you tried the Nostalgia Air or BAMA sites? Article: 339131 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Radio "rich" areas of the country? Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 18:45:55 -0500 Message-ID: <25180-44D7D0B3-216@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <1154990308.188484.138410@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> And there were the World War Two scrap metal drives.No doubt many,many radios wound up on those piles of scrap metal. How about this one? www.devilfinder.com Mississippi Pack Ratz Radio and TV I am curious to know where Mississippi Pack Ratz is located. cuhulin Article: 339132 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Victrolas, anyone? Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 20:08:40 -0400 Message-ID: <12dflghrtgl18e2@corp.supernews.com> References: <1154370912.774566.125330@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> "Whoever" wrote in message news:KQKBg.10180$qw5.9595@trnddc06... > Just thought I'd drop this in: someone actually tore up an old gramophone > to shove a computer into it! > > http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/gramaphone-itx-hd/ "Old" in this case means made in China last year. THAT is NOT an old gramophone. Let me state clearly NO old gramophone has a blindingly shiny horn and cheap looking nasty works like the Crapophones in question. John H. Article: 339133 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 20:16:21 -0400 Message-ID: <12dfluurco95b46@corp.supernews.com> References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154981864.318520.65810@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154983124.266964.276710@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154988875.165487.95410@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Must have been a European company. An American contractor would just use a bushel of chip operated probes because old technology is just WRONG. Even if it works worse and costs more and fails repeatedly, Americans insist new is better, there is NO discussing it. I just can't imagine a 21st century American engineer looking at themselves in the mirror each morning after designing a VACUUM TUBE circuit. They'd be so humiliated by the Digi Crowd they'd have to fall on their 9 watt soldering iron. John H. Article: 339134 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "electron@grapevine.net" Subject: Re: Introducing myself and a couple requests if possible Date: 7 Aug 2006 17:26:20 -0700 Message-ID: <1154996780.360222.88310@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: > scw223 wrote: > > Hi all a quick hello and to introduce myself , I am mike husli and am new to > > the group . while I have worked on tv's and such for years now, I am > > relatively new to radio's. i have now in my possession a stewart warner r176 > > and an arvin 751-tm. I am looking for service manuals and schematics for > > both. i also need a manual for a supreme instruments model 576 signal > > generator. any help(photocopies or pdf) would be much apreciated . even if > > someone could point me in the correct direction would be great > > Welcome, Mike. Have you tried the Nostalgia Air or BAMA sites? What he said; and indeed welcome! AFA service manuals, they weren't really available 'back in the day' for consumer electronics (there might be one out there for the generator); the industry assumed a certain level of compentancy, and schematics w/voltages were all that were expected and common fair (repeating Steven's advice, plz chk BAMA and Nostalgia Air; use Google via keyword if you're not familiar with these respected net resources.) There are some excellent current sites for basic radio restoration tips etc., sorry, I don't have links handy (I hope some of the regulars jump in), but FWIW the folk here are excellent (if sometimes crabby) resources for specific questions. -Robert QTS http://www.Braught.com real email addy : Robert@NoSpamBraught.com (remove NoSpam to reply : Duh!) Article: 339135 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: still looking for SC 240 series chassis Date: 7 Aug 2006 17:30:08 -0700 Message-ID: <1154997008.090997.45210@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> thanks to john goller i now have the escutcheon. thanks again john! i owe you one. still need the chassis, speaker and knobs. i would be happy to find one person with all, but i will settle for anything. this is a fairly common chassis. c'mon guys...make my life complete! Article: 339136 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? Date: 8 Aug 2006 00:32:03 GMT Message-ID: References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Sofa Slug (sofaslug403spamnot@prodigy.net) writes: > Bob Armstrong wrote: >> I was asked to write a short article for an electronics magazine >> about applications where, even today in the 21st century, vacuum tubes >> still have not been replaced by solid state devices. >> >> One obvious one is audio - both the "Glass Audio" sound reproduction >> types as well as the musical instrument amplifiers sound production >> types. I doubt there's any serious guitarist that would even consider >> using a solid state amp. >> >> Another is microwave ovens - not just the one in your kitchen >> (although that magnetron is still a tube too!) but also the big >> industrial RF heating ones. >> >> And of course there are still countless CRTs of all shapes and sizes, >> although LCDs and other display technologies are starting to make >> inroads, still if you want to build a cheap display or a really good >> display a CRT is the choice. >> >> And the last one I came up with is radio transmitters. If you want >> to build a 50kW+ radio/TV station, then the final amp is going to be a >> tube. AFAIK there's still no other option. >> >> But I'd like to find more. Am I missing any applications where >> vacuum tubes are still the preferred choice or the only choice? >> >> Thanks, >> Bob Armstrong >> > > Due to the vacuum tube's resistance to EMP (electromagnetic pulse), the > Soviets often used tube based avionics in their cold war era military > aircraft. I wouldn't be surprised if our military (or that of some other > country) isn't still using a few tubes somewhere in classified gear for > just this reason. I thought there was debate over whether that was true or not. I seem to recall reading an argument that the reason they kept with tubes for so long was that they didn't have the money or knowledge to shift over to solid state, and they were unable to just buy it >from other countries due to embargos on such things. Michael Article: 339137 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: bj_blazkowicz@cyberdude.com Subject: Selenium Rectifier replacement question Message-ID: <0gmfd2h7pdt77baqksepipkkvil9h1ck7h@4ax.com> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 00:41:15 GMT I'm working on a Pilot T-601 Pilotuner (FM tuner) that uses a selenium rectifier that I would like to replace. It has one line going in and one going out. Schematic can be seen here: http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/587/M0014587.pdf Would I replace it with a single rectifier diode like a 1N4007 and a resistor in series to drop the voltage? Article: 339138 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: patrick jankowiak Subject: Re: A Major Tube Cache References: <1154461867.979007.286480@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154575477.357127.4120@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <4jefcnF7me0vU1@individual.net> Message-ID: <07RBg.4843$9T3.2741@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 00:43:40 GMT tubes.. http://www.bunkerofdoom.com/nortex/index.html This place has tubes, rooms in another building not shown, full of shelves of tubes in bins and boxes from floor to ceiling, not gone through yet, mostly because few people know were the light switches are back in those dark and dangerous spaces (you could trip in the dark and fall on a bare 17" monochrome CRT for instance). You have to go in person to rummage for specific rare tubes. Many common types are stocked in the main building shown on the website. I've been going there for 15 years and only recently found a NOS NIB 450TH back in there. They did not know it was there but it's up front for sale now. (don't count on any more of those). The 'not shown' building also has stacks of all kinds of electronics equipment up to the rafters. I have been neglectful of it. Maybe I'll go on a photo expedition in there after while. I have no financial interest in it, just a happy customer, so I built them a web page. There are not many places like this any more. If there is one of this magnitude, I would be surprised. And yes you can still smoke in there, if that is part of your surplus store experience. PJ Article: 339139 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "wagil" Subject: comparisons of tuning capacitors Date: 7 Aug 2006 17:47:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1154998030.257433.123380@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Does anyone know where I can find an article showing illustrations of the 3 types of tuning capacitors: linear freq, linear meter, linear capacitance? Wayne g Article: 339140 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "wa2mze(spamless)" <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <0jRBg.9349$bo6.5139@bignews7.bellsouth.net> Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:56:33 -0400 Bob Armstrong wrote: > I was asked to write a short article for an electronics magazine > about applications where, even today in the 21st century, vacuum tubes > still have not been replaced by solid state devices. > > One obvious one is audio - both the "Glass Audio" sound reproduction > types as well as the musical instrument amplifiers sound production > types. I doubt there's any serious guitarist that would even consider > using a solid state amp. > > Another is microwave ovens - not just the one in your kitchen > (although that magnetron is still a tube too!) but also the big > industrial RF heating ones. > > And of course there are still countless CRTs of all shapes and sizes, > although LCDs and other display technologies are starting to make > inroads, still if you want to build a cheap display or a really good > display a CRT is the choice. > > And the last one I came up with is radio transmitters. If you want > to build a 50kW+ radio/TV station, then the final amp is going to be a > tube. AFAIK there's still no other option. Well the latest digital broadcast transmitters ARE solit state. They have a number of power amps connected together via a combiner. The amps are of different power output levels with one amp TWICE the power of the one before it and HALF the power of the next one. So the transmitter is really one high power D/A converter. And THATS's how they modulate it! By feeding a digital audio signal to switch the required amplifiers on and off to modulate the signal. The switching done at the sampling rate of the audio. These amps are all solid state. So for a 50kw transmitter, the largest amplifier would be 25kw output. (So maybe the LARGEST of the amps might be tubes but all the smaller ones are solid state) There would be 16 amps (for a 16bit digital D/A converter). > > But I'd like to find more. Am I missing any applications where > vacuum tubes are still the preferred choice or the only choice? > > Thanks, > Bob Armstrong > Article: 339141 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Victrolas, anyone? From: lherault@bu.edu References: <1154370912.774566.125330@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 01:42:58 GMT The phongraph he gutted looks like a crapophone to me. Ron L Article: 339142 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Anyone ever heard of a Melodist phono player From: lherault@bu.edu References: <5DTAg.33$1i.29@trndny08> <17305-44D774ED-955@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <_2SBg.2848$Pp1.1753@trndny04> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 01:47:38 GMT Needles should be discarded after playing one record. The inexpensive needle wears so that the more expensive reocrd does not. They are still being made and can be had in quantity for as little as $4.00 per pack of 100 >from places like Antique Phonogrpah Supply (APSCO) Ron L Article: 339143 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "BH" Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier replacement question Date: 7 Aug 2006 18:53:22 -0700 Message-ID: <1155002002.629314.198400@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <0gmfd2h7pdt77baqksepipkkvil9h1ck7h@4ax.com> bj_blazkowicz@cyberdude.com wrote: > I'm working on a Pilot T-601 Pilotuner (FM tuner) that uses a selenium > rectifier that I would like to replace. It has one line going in and > one going out. Schematic can be seen here: > http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/587/M0014587.pdf > > Would I replace it with a single rectifier diode like a 1N4007 and a > resistor in series to drop the voltage? That's about it. BH Article: 339144 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: patrick jankowiak Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <1xSBg.4861$9T3.1932@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 02:19:41 GMT > Bob Armstrong wrote: > >> I was asked to write a short article for an electronics magazine >> about applications where, even today in the 21st century, vacuum tubes >> still have not been replaced by solid state devices. Hydrogen Thyratrons such as made by EG&G, are very fast switches used to fire high power lasers. CFA tubes (crossed field amplifier) are used to amplify a 100KW microwave pulses to megawatts. The cathodes are heated by the drive signal and then by emission. They are used in troposcatter communications systems, mostly military. flashlamps for pumping lasers, have an anode and cathode. Are photomultiplier tubes still used behind radioflourescent crystals as scintillation detectors or as detectors for flying spot scanners? Geiger-Mueller tubes in geiger counters and other sensitive radiation detectors. Tubes filled with certain gasses are used to produce reference atomic spectral lines. all kinds of gas lasers. CO2 used today for cutting. small gas filled tubes are used as spark gaps and as transient protection devices. Ion implanters used in the manufacture of semiconductors are a kind of beam tube complete with deflection magnets. Klystrons as used for radar and SHF oscillators. Traveling wave tubes still used as amplifiers in the link from the remote truck to the TV studio. The atomic clock uses an oscillating beam of ions in a special tube to measure time. manufacturers see Burle, Varian, EG&G. Article: 339145 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: comparisons of tuning capacitors Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 22:26:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1154998030.257433.123380@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Does anyone know where I can find an article showing illustrations of the 3 types of tuning capacitors: linear freq, linear meter, linear capacitance? **I don't know about "linear meter", but you shouldn't need pics for the others. A linear freq cap will give equal spacing on the dial and the cap blades look somewhat like half an egg with the shaft off-center toward the pointed part. "Linear capacitance" caps are exactly half-round with the shaft in the middle. A linear cap is lousy for the high end of dial as the freqs are compressed very close together; these linear caps are really only used on TRF radios- I can't recall ever seeing one on a heterodyne radio. Hope this helps. -Pete (former cap builder for Boonton Radio and HP) Article: 339146 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: patrick jankowiak Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1xSBg.4861$9T3.1932@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 02:21:34 GMT and the "Klystrode" by Varian. patrick jankowiak wrote: >> Bob Armstrong wrote: >> >>> I was asked to write a short article for an electronics magazine >>> about applications where, even today in the 21st century, vacuum tubes >>> still have not been replaced by solid state devices. > > > Hydrogen Thyratrons such as made by EG&G, are very fast switches used to > fire high power lasers. > > CFA tubes (crossed field amplifier) are used to amplify a 100KW > microwave pulses to megawatts. The cathodes are heated by the drive > signal and then by emission. They are used in troposcatter > communications systems, mostly military. > > flashlamps for pumping lasers, have an anode and cathode. > > Are photomultiplier tubes still used behind radioflourescent crystals as > scintillation detectors or as detectors for flying spot scanners? > > Geiger-Mueller tubes in geiger counters and other sensitive radiation > detectors. > > Tubes filled with certain gasses are used to produce reference atomic > spectral lines. > > all kinds of gas lasers. CO2 used today for cutting. > > small gas filled tubes are used as spark gaps and as transient > protection devices. > > Ion implanters used in the manufacture of semiconductors are a kind of > beam tube complete with deflection magnets. > > Klystrons as used for radar and SHF oscillators. > > Traveling wave tubes still used as amplifiers in the link from the > remote truck to the TV studio. > > The atomic clock uses an oscillating beam of ions in a special tube to > measure time. > > manufacturers see Burle, Varian, EG&G. Article: 339147 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Date: 7 Aug 2006 19:22:39 -0700 Message-ID: <1155003759.451081.39560@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Ah wunaful, ah wunaful, and now on with a da show. Beloved Leader wrote: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Freberg > > Actually, it is on topic a little, as he took over Jack Benny's time > slot in 1957, when his radio show aired. I used to have the album of > that (on Capitol, maybe?), but I gave it to someone who appreciated it > a lot more years and years ago. Surely it's available on CD now. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stan_Freberg_Show Article: 339148 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier replacement question Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 22:30:53 -0400 Message-ID: <06c8718e54b416e7a5c22b8cee2eaab4@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: <0gmfd2h7pdt77baqksepipkkvil9h1ck7h@4ax.com> <1155002002.629314.198400@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> > Would I replace it with a single rectifier diode like a 1N4007 and a > resistor in series to drop the voltage **I'm replacing seleniums in a Philco 46-350; what series resistance should I use- 100, 200, 500 ohms? As I recall it's half-wave. -Pete Article: 339149 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1154997008.090997.45210@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: still looking for SC 240 series chassis Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 22:50:14 -0400 Message-ID: Eddie, its not that common, I could guess it might take a year at least to find one! Before the internet it would have taken several years to find a chassis like that. There was a 240 at the Bolingbrook meet but it was a complete set... $375 I think. Mark Oppat "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1154997008.090997.45210@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > thanks to john goller i now have the escutcheon. thanks again john! i > owe you one. still need the chassis, speaker and knobs. i would be > happy to find one person with all, but i will settle for anything. > this is a fairly common chassis. c'mon guys...make my life complete! > > Article: 339150 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Engineer" Subject: Odd old OPT Date: 7 Aug 2006 20:01:50 -0700 Message-ID: <1155006110.383183.228660@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Hi, Vacuumlanders. I've just parted out a very odd 1940's "home brew" tube chassis. It contained a 5Y3 p/s, a complete 6 tube BC band receiver with 2 x 6F6 P-P audio out, a tunable two tube IF amplifier (about 400 to 500 KHz) and misc. audio signal tracers ans injectors and a meter - obviously a service tool. I got the receiver to work but it was just not worth keeping - full of wax caps and widely off value carbon resistors. Anyway, the P-P OPT is very odd, especially for the 6F6's. It is very small, barely a 2 inch cube, and has a ratio of 85:1 (P-P to VC.) For the following speaker impedances, here are the P-P (centre tapped) impedances presented: 3.2 ohms >>> 23K 4 ohms >>> 29K 8 ohms >>> Don't bother to calculate! (OK... about 58K) All these seem very high, quite wrong for the 6F6 or anything like it (you need about 10K.) Presuming the original "home brewer" got it wrong (or that's the only OPT he had!), what tubes would work with, say, 29K P-P? How about flea power from a 12AU7 in P-P? (I've not done the calculations.) Battery tubes? For now it's in the spares box. Any ideas? Cheers, Roger Article: 339151 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" Subject: Bolingbrook pix on binaries Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 23:24:16 -0400 Message-ID: <_4GdnWoo_a2FnkXZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com> ....have a look, I managed to get a few shots on Saturday. By the time I took these, many of the sellers were packed up...but there is enough to give you an idea of this show. Its at a great location, the social night was super (the "Crown Vics" band was a super authentic a 50's band as I have ever seen, and I have seen MANY! I love the name, too.) ARCI Prez Dave Bart gave out a pile of awards and has really energized this club. The seminars were well attended too, although one was cancelled at the last minute. The swap meet PA was perfect, playing oldies at the right level, nobody got blasted out. The hotel is very nice although the food service was not the best I heard but then there was a very good Mexican joint next door with a super buffet on Friday. I ate there Saturday, and it was very good then too. The event's signage was extensive and very well executed. As long as pre-start time selling is controlled, this will continue to grow back to its former size and beyond. I would say it was very close this year to its former glory for sellers, but a not as many buyers as days past... but that should change as word spreads on this event. I didnt sell one 100pc pack of any value of capacitor... that is the first time thats happened. Its easier for most to get to this new location, too. It took me about 5 hours from Plymouth, MI and that included a dinner stop in Benton Harbor area (thursday eve). Going back on Saturday it took longer, we hit some construction back ups... I think it was 6.5 hrs going home. This is probably the second largest meet in the USA, behind Lansing, going by the amount of stuff. Charlotte might be third and Kutztown 4th and Beltsville/Rochester AWA tied for 5th, not sure, as I havent been back to Rochester since 2003 or so. Anyways, a big pat on the back to ARCI, they are doing the right stuff mostly. They need to add rental tables to the mix, and a larger tent with sales space under it like we have at Lansing. Mark Oppat Article: 339152 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1155006110.383183.228660@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Odd old OPT Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 23:29:02 -0400 Message-ID: I think this was "what he had" type of OPT. wonder what it was. You figured the windings by applying a known voltage and measuring the output, right? Not by measuring the resistances. Mark Oppat "Engineer" wrote in message news:1155006110.383183.228660@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hi, Vacuumlanders. > I've just parted out a very odd 1940's "home brew" tube chassis. It > contained a 5Y3 p/s, a complete 6 tube BC band receiver with 2 x 6F6 > P-P audio out, a tunable two tube IF amplifier (about 400 to 500 KHz) > and misc. audio signal tracers ans injectors and a meter - obviously a > service tool. I got the receiver to work but it was just not worth > keeping - full of wax caps and widely off value carbon resistors. > > Anyway, the P-P OPT is very odd, especially for the 6F6's. It is very > small, barely a 2 inch cube, and has a ratio of 85:1 (P-P to VC.) For > the following speaker impedances, here are the P-P (centre tapped) > impedances presented: > 3.2 ohms >>> 23K > 4 ohms >>> 29K > 8 ohms >>> Don't bother to calculate! (OK... about 58K) > > All these seem very high, quite wrong for the 6F6 or anything like it > (you need about 10K.) Presuming the original "home brewer" got it wrong > (or that's the only OPT he had!), what tubes would work with, say, 29K > P-P? How about flea power from a 12AU7 in P-P? (I've not done the > calculations.) Battery tubes? For now it's in the spares box. > Any ideas? > Cheers, > Roger > > Article: 339153 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" Subject: WTB: G500 loop antenna with screws Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 23:30:18 -0400 Message-ID: Anyone got one? Paying $20. moppat at comcast dot net. Mark Oppat Article: 339154 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 12:35:13 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155003759.451081.39560@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1155003759.451081.39560@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Ah wunaful, ah wunaful, and now on with a da show. "Oh, that? It's just an unusually pictorial Hubbard squash." Article: 339155 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Odd old OPT Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 12:40:34 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1155006110.383183.228660@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:ksSdnU5MF52rmUXZnZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >I think this was "what he had" type of OPT. wonder what it was. You > figured the windings by applying a known voltage and measuring the output, > right? Not by measuring the resistances. > > Mark Oppat Sounds more like an input type transformer.. where the 'secondary' goes to the first AF/Det. and the 'primary' to the output tube grids... Article: 339156 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <1154370912.774566.125330@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Victrolas, anyone? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 22:46:22 -0500 wrote in message news:C_RBg.836$QK.645@trndny06... > The phongraph he gutted looks like a crapophone to me. > > Ron L It sure is, now. Whatever it was, some people should put down the Dremel, back away, and keep their hands where we can see them... Nelson Article: 339157 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Beloved Leader" Subject: Re: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Date: 7 Aug 2006 20:46:06 -0700 Message-ID: <1155008766.867472.33420@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> William Sommerwerck wrote: > > Actually, it is on topic a little, as he took over Jack Benny's time > > slot in 1957, when his radio show aired. I used to have the album of > > that (on Capitol, maybe?), but I gave it to someone who appreciated it > > a lot more years and years ago. Surely it's available on CD now. > > Not necessarily. Check before you get rid of the LP. You're thirty years too late. My album consisted of one disc. It had excerpts from the shows. Given enough time, I could find an online discography with a picture of the album's cover and its serial number. One site I visited today indicates that the whole affair is available on CDs. http://www.dawsbutler.com/Freberg1.htm says: "The complete 15 programs have never been released since their original broadcasts. Until now. This Smithsonian collection is the first of two, the first seven broadcasts of THE STAN FREBERG SHOW, heard here for the first time in their glorious entirety." http://www.dawsbutler.com/Freberg2.htm says: "With all these achievements behind him, 1996 was a banner year for Stan once again. In June, the Smithsonian Institution, together with Radio Spirits, released a four CD set featuring the first seven of his classic 1957 CBS radio shows, remastered and released for the first time since their original broadcast. In July, Rhino Records released "Stan Freberg Presents the United States of America, Part Two: The Middle Years," the long-awaited second installment (30 years!) of his classic 1961 hysterical-historical recording. And now in 1997, the Smithsonian and Radio Spirits have once again teamed to release this "The Stan Freberg Show, Volume Two", featuring the remaining eight CBS radio shows, once again remastered and released in their glorious entirety for the first time since 1957. Stan Freberg's albums and radio shows represent the pinnacle in the art of verbal comedy. Freberg's humor is a wild mix of sketch comedy, social satire, and music, supported by an ensemble of crazy character voices most often supplied by the talents of Daws Butler, June Foray, Peter Leeds, and Freberg himself." He was working in TV in 1949. http://www.emmys.org/media/releases/2006/rel_laarea_gov.php "In 1949, he helped producer Bob Clampett create the groundbreaking puppet series Time for Beany -a precursor to the 1960s animated series Beany and Cecil-for fledgling TV station KTLA. Chronicling the escapades of a boy named Beany and his seasick sea serpent Cecil, Time for Beany was performed live and appealed to all ages. Freberg was the puppeteer and voice of Cecil and villain Dishonest John." Article: 339158 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Solomon K. Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier replacement question Message-ID: <8h1gd2911nt5fbgrsp8htll8up5tqcn6m0@4ax.com> References: <0gmfd2h7pdt77baqksepipkkvil9h1ck7h@4ax.com> <1155002002.629314.198400@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 03:50:09 GMT On 7 Aug 2006 18:53:22 -0700, "BH" wrote: > >bj_blazkowicz@cyberdude.com wrote: >> I'm working on a Pilot T-601 Pilotuner (FM tuner) that uses a selenium >> rectifier that I would like to replace. It has one line going in and >> one going out. Schematic can be seen here: >> http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/587/M0014587.pdf >> >> Would I replace it with a single rectifier diode like a 1N4007 and a >> resistor in series to drop the voltage? > >That's about it. > >BH Thank you! Can you also verify the following: Cathode (striped) end of the diode faces toward the + of the filter cap? For the voltage dropping resistor - should it be a larger wire-wound 5W size? Article: 339159 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jim rozen Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? Date: 7 Aug 2006 20:32:47 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> In article <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>, Bob Armstrong says... > But I'd like to find more. Am I missing any applications where >vacuum tubes are still the preferred choice or the only choice? The motor drive on many Monarch 10EE lathes uses hollow state devices, still. Jim -- ================================================== please reply to: JRR(zero) at pkmfgvm4 (dot) vnet (dot) ibm (dot) com ================================================== Article: 339160 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Solomon K. Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier replacement question Message-ID: References: <0gmfd2h7pdt77baqksepipkkvil9h1ck7h@4ax.com> <1155002002.629314.198400@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <06c8718e54b416e7a5c22b8cee2eaab4@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 03:51:46 GMT On Mon, 07 Aug 2006 22:30:53 -0400, "Pete_O" wrote: >> Would I replace it with a single rectifier diode like a 1N4007 and a > >resistor in series to drop the voltage > >**I'm replacing seleniums in a Philco 46-350; what series resistance >should I use- 100, 200, 500 ohms? As I recall it's half-wave. -Pete I think you have to try various values to get the right voltage. 20-300 ohms (5W cement wire-wound?) Article: 339161 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 20:51:36 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154981864.318520.65810@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154983124.266964.276710@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154988875.165487.95410@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <12dfluurco95b46@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > Must have been a European company. An American contractor would just use a > bushel of chip operated probes because old technology is just WRONG. Even if > it works worse and costs more and fails repeatedly, Americans insist new is > better, there is NO discussing it. I just can't imagine a 21st century > American engineer looking at themselves in the mirror each morning after > designing a VACUUM TUBE circuit. I work for a major aerospace firm as a systems analyst. I keep a few boatanchor schematics on one wall of my office just for laughs. The young engineers that I interact with are consistently fascinated by them, and the giant E-size raster plot of the indian-head test pattern that I have on the opposite wall as well. When one thinks about it, It's not hard to understand why they are so interested. Most of these guys will never be asked to design a circuit using vacuum tubes in their entire professional lives in this surface-mount, synthesized, microprocessor-based world, and they will never see an indian head test pattern in actual use in an era of 24-hour-a-day high-definition TV. Nothing they do will ever be as simple as that! -Scott Article: 339162 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: 66fourdoor = GONE Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 21:56:49 -0700 Message-ID: http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=66fourdoor&iid= FINALLY.... Article: 339163 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: Mon, 07 Aug 2006 22:07:22 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1154644573.822485.193520@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154694240.516078.209140@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154863371.274934.248830@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <871cd2tr19c6ef0hrjipug3r92cvhrlf2t@4ax.com> On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 08:05:27 -0700, DeserTBoB wrote: >On 6 Aug 2006 04:22:51 -0700, "shirked duty-dishonor-cowardice" aka >Charlie Nudo of Drums, PA, who never served a day of his worthless >life in the military) wrote: > >>looks like lady luck has caught up with DeserTBob- now he's posting >>tinypics of himself- he can dish it out, but can't take it Take THIS, fuckwad. Member Profile: 66fourdoor (1265) Feedback Score: 1265 Positive Feedback: 99.8% Members who left a positive: 1267 Members who left a negative: 2 All positive feedback received: 1517 No longer a registered user FINALLY....eBay wakes up to reality. Article: 339164 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor = GONE (NOW YOUR TURN dB) Date: 7 Aug 2006 23:29:03 -0700 Message-ID: <1155018543.733349.241020@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: DeserTBoB wrote: > http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=66fourdoor&iid= > > FINALLY.... Now when do YOU ride your lame donkey into the Mexican sunset? Article: 339165 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: 7 Aug 2006 23:31:07 -0700 Message-ID: <1155018667.370052.247550@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: DeserTBoB wrote: > On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 08:05:27 -0700, DeserTBoB > wrote: > > >On 6 Aug 2006 04:22:51 -0700, "shirked duty-dishonor-cowardice" aka > >Charlie Nudo of Drums, PA, who never served a day of his worthless > >life in the military) wrote: > > > >>looks like lady luck has caught up with DeserTBob- now he's posting > >>tinypics of himself- he can dish it out, but can't take it > > Take THIS, fuckwad. > > Member Profile: 66fourdoor (1265) > Feedback Score: 1265 > Positive Feedback: 99.8% > > Members who left a positive: 1267 > Members who left a negative: 2 > > All positive feedback received: 1517 > > No longer a registered user > > > FINALLY....eBay wakes up to reality. Your turn now or can we ASSIST you? Article: 339166 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 00:17:57 -0700 Message-ID: <2cdgd2hhesq55nabvi80jrsds7fos6fejp@4ax.com> References: On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 01:01:00 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >This car is a 1993 Sedan De Ville -- getting old, but certainly not in the >antique department. It's the stock stereo with "Symphony Sound" written on >it -- as opposed to the Bose or other options. That's the "stock" stereo...the "Blowz" was the option. I had a '92 SDV (great car in a number of ways, BTW) with the "Blowz". The stock one was badged as a Delco product, but made by whom, I hadn't a clue, although it assuredly was from the Far East. I do know that the "Blowz" mess had a Blaupunkt 4 track head that had horrid gap scatter and a weak kneed head mount that absolutely refused to hold an alignment for more than about 40 reverses. I only heard the "Symphony Sound" stock unit in loaner cars, and found it to be about on a par with stuff found in contemporary Chevies...not that good. If you have the fader cranked almost all the way over to balance channels, I'd suspect the IC power amp for that side is probably on its way out. When you match gain, is there a lot of distortion from the "soft" channel? The stock unit does not have (nor did the "Blowz") have outboard, descrete power amps. As for the "Blowz," it did just that, although it was better sounding than the Delco stock unit. They summed the bass into a 6X9 in the trunk (only one back there, the other cutout functions as a "vent?") and the lower mids and above show up in kick panel mounted 4X6s with dash mounted tweeters. It was...if everything was in good shape...OK. Indifferent radio which relied heavily on MPX "blending" to stay quiet, had switchable 70 µS EQ for tape, switchable Dolby HX. Was it worth the money? Eh...I could've easily designed a far better system with aftermarket gear. By the way, the '93 was the last of a good line...'90-'93. '94s and later (with the "Samsonite" rear styling) had the Northstar available, and more problems, as well. the 4.9 in my '92 easily hit 200K miles on synthetic oil without needing work, and the platinum AC plugs did indeed last 100K miles. I pulled at valve cover just for the hell of it at 197K, and the engine was delightfully clean on the top end. The bugaboo with those (and the Northstars) is if the owner doesn't maintain them properly and neglects the cooling system and/or oil change interval, Add those dealer provided "pills" when you change coolant, or else you'll have a big piece of spongy aluminum in no time. Like all GM transaxles, the T80E had some problems with hot running torque converters (and thus, hardened seals) and with needle bearings in the differntial gears going noisy at low speeds. I had mine opened up and resealed and new bearing packs installed at 150K, not too bad these days, and a definite improvement from those horrid RayGun era RWD Cads with the Chevette (THM 200) auto trans. Those were sort of a cruel joke foisted on buyers by none other than GM's worst leader, Roger Smith. Had the ol' lady not have rolled it no less than three times, I'd still probably have mine. That car saved her life, I might add. Article: 339167 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Joe L." Subject: Re: high-freq speaker in German radio References: Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 02:35:27 -0500 Message-ID: The final result is that the electrostatic speaker is now repaired. The main fault was an open path in the metallization between the contact strip and the main part of the diaphragm. In addition, the contact strip was partially melted by heat from a soldering iron. I used thin copper tape to replace the damaged part of the contact strip. Then used a PCB trace repair pen containing silver to bridge the gap in the metallization. Also replaced the near-crumbling foam pad with a new piece that was scrounged from the junk box. The Emud Rekord 60 now has both electrostatic speakers working, but the results seem underwhelming. Maybe my ears just can't hear high frequencies so well. But it seems these tweeters add little if anything to the overall sound. Mind you, the radio still sounds _great_. Perhaps the tweeters were mainly a marketing gimmick in the "hi-fi" age. Thanks again for all the helpful information. Joe L. Article: 339168 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Bolingbrook pix on binaries Date: 8 Aug 2006 02:40:35 -0700 Message-ID: <1155030035.951831.197240@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <_4GdnWoo_a2FnkXZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com> Agreed all the way around. ARCI put on a good show. I cannot comment on the facilities though as I live in the area and didn't stay. One comment. I noticed one vendor who's normally there, occupies a huge amount of space, and leaves the place a mess afterwards was not in attendence this year. That itself was a big over all improvement for the show. :) GB. Mark Oppat wrote: > ....have a look, I managed to get a few shots on Saturday. By the time I > took these, many of the sellers were packed up...but there is enough to give > you an idea of this show. Its at a great location, the social night was > super (the "Crown Vics" band was a super authentic a 50's band as I have > ever seen, and I have seen MANY! I love the name, too.) ARCI Prez Dave > Bart gave out a pile of awards and has really energized this club. > > The seminars were well attended too, although one was cancelled at the last > minute. > > The swap meet PA was perfect, playing oldies at the right level, nobody got > blasted out. The hotel is very nice although the food service was not the > best I heard but then there was a very good Mexican joint next door with a > super buffet on Friday. I ate there Saturday, and it was very good then > too. The event's signage was extensive and very well executed. > > As long as pre-start time selling is controlled, this will continue to grow > back to its former size and beyond. I would say it was very close this year > to its former glory for sellers, but a not as many buyers as days past... > but that should change as word spreads on this event. I didnt sell one > 100pc pack of any value of capacitor... that is the first time thats > happened. > > Its easier for most to get to this new location, too. It took me about 5 > hours from Plymouth, MI and that included a dinner stop in Benton Harbor > area (thursday eve). Going back on Saturday it took longer, we hit some > construction back ups... I think it was 6.5 hrs going home. > > This is probably the second largest meet in the USA, behind Lansing, going > by the amount of stuff. Charlotte might be third and Kutztown 4th and > Beltsville/Rochester AWA tied for 5th, not sure, as I havent been back to > Rochester since 2003 or so. > > Anyways, a big pat on the back to ARCI, they are doing the right stuff > mostly. They need to add rental tables to the mix, and a larger tent with > sales space under it like we have at Lansing. > > Mark Oppat Article: 339169 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question Date: 8 Aug 2006 02:41:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1155030071.510239.213450@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: DeserTBoB wrote: > On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 01:01:00 GMT, "Gary Tayman" > wrote: > > >This car is a 1993 Sedan De Ville -- getting old, but certainly not in the > >antique department. It's the stock stereo with "Symphony Sound" written on > >it -- as opposed to the Bose or other options. > > That's the "stock" stereo...the "Blowz" was the option. I had a '92 > SDV (great car in a number of ways, BTW) with the "Blowz". The stock > one was badged as a Delco product, but made by whom, I hadn't a clue, > although it assuredly was from the Far East. I do know that the > "Blowz" mess had a Blaupunkt 4 track head that had horrid gap scatter > and a weak kneed head mount that absolutely refused to hold an > alignment for more than about 40 reverses. I only heard the "Symphony > Sound" stock unit in loaner cars, and found it to be about on a par > with stuff found in contemporary Chevies...not that good. > > If you have the fader cranked almost all the way over to balance > channels, I'd suspect the IC power amp for that side is probably on > its way out. When you match gain, is there a lot of distortion from > the "soft" channel? The stock unit does not have (nor did the > "Blowz") have outboard, descrete power amps. The 1983 Symphony Sound is a UX-1 model without a clock module, the non-Blaupunkt "clamshell" autoreverse/search deck (standard issue) and a unique plain-looking narrow element numeric display, as opposed to the slick fluorescent one with fancy digits common to all others. The amp in yours may have had problems but the amp can make the rear window physically rattle in the rear view of the mirror, especially if fader just right to the rear and turned up. It is a more than capable amp and the basic Delco amp is quite a nice thing and packs a wallop. GM cars have not had one rear speaker since the 60s. My '68 Chevelle Deluxe sedan had two spaces, so did my 1966 Pontiac Tempest. Dolby HX Pro is a RECORDING PROCESSOR, not a playback mode, and is usable regardless of noise reduction use during recording. It has no bearing on playback. It is a headroom optimizer and the results are equal on ANY deck. Bose optioned Delco units were not equipped with amps AT ALL! Each speaker in the car has it's own specially eq'd and amplified module--much like 901s with an active equalizer. If you don't like the sound it wasn't the head unit you were complaining about. You, as usual have a whole bunch of misinformation rolled into something you don't anything about. 1993-1999 Cadillac at least would have AM stereo reception on the various units used, and not all of them with a button marked AM St. Camaros had a BOSE option in 1993 too as well as the same AMS buttoned model available to Buicks that year. Pontiac had it's own AMS model different from the others for 6000 and other models. Theftlock was introduced around the 1994 model year with a new AM mono tuner only, choice of cassette with autoreverse and full search/logic controls plus Dolby B or CD player and optional changer it looks like from the display elements. Cadillac stereos have a different face and mounting setup sometime into the nineties in the newer Devilles. By 2000 Cadillac is almost completely into the "EVOQ/CTX" styling and I lost track of those models because I do not like the "robot" styling at all. Before 199X they are mostly based on the interchanging GM2000 chassis, 1 1/2 DIN spacing and all. GEO radios are double DIN like many other Japanese cars (often dual drive cassette/CD in higher priced models and originally component sets in the 1980s). > > By the way, the '93 was the last of a good line...'90-'93. '94s and > later (with the "Samsonite" rear styling) THOSE ARE THE EARLY 80s SEVILLES AND THE TRUNK WAS RESTYLED BY 1983 or '84!!!!!!!!!! I had > mine opened up and resealed and new bearing packs installed at 150K, > not too bad these days, and a definite improvement from those horrid > RayGun era RWD Cads with the Chevette (THM 200) auto trans. Those > were sort of a cruel joke foisted on buyers by none other than GM's > worst leader, Roger Smith. The Cimarron never used a Vega transmission, nor did the Vega's followup, MONZA. Cimarron used the same transaxle as the other models in the J-car line, Cavalier/Omega/(J)2000. Chevettes were introduced as an ALL-NEW line about 1975, about the same time as MONZA and Vega was introduced in 1972? > Had the ol' lady not have rolled it no less than three times, I'd > still probably have mine. That car saved her life, I might add. At least SHE knows what saved her, not you. Now leave! Article: 339170 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question Date: 8 Aug 2006 02:50:38 -0700 Message-ID: <1155030638.018484.298890@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: ROGER SMITH WASN'T PRESIDENT OF GM IN 1980 EITHER! To the best of my recollection it was either Robert Layton or Bob Lutz. Such a god-forsaken retard...I had 5 years of subscriptions to Motor Trend, Car and Driver and my father the mechanic got Chilton's and Motor Age for around 15 years. 1978-85 and mine was 82-87. Article: 339171 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: high-freq speaker in German radio Date: 8 Aug 2006 03:09:06 -0700 Message-ID: <1155031746.768102.33870@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Joe L. wrote: > The final result is that the electrostatic speaker is now repaired. The > main fault was an open path in the metallization between the contact > strip and the main part of the diaphragm. In addition, the contact strip > was partially melted by heat from a soldering iron. I used thin copper > tape to replace the damaged part of the contact strip. Then used a PCB > trace repair pen containing silver to bridge the gap in the > metallization. Also replaced the near-crumbling foam pad with a new > piece that was scrounged from the junk box. > > The Emud Rekord 60 now has both electrostatic speakers working, but the > results seem underwhelming. Maybe my ears just can't hear high > frequencies so well. But it seems these tweeters add little if anything > to the overall sound. Mind you, the radio still sounds _great_. Perhaps > the tweeters were mainly a marketing gimmick in the "hi-fi" age. > > Thanks again for all the helpful information. > > Joe L. You may think the results were disappointing initially, but if you ever come across the 6x9" Zenith sets from the 50s and a surprising number of others (KLH?), you have gained the repair skills to fix them also. There were also electrostatic headphones such as the Stax and IIRC a Pioneer model and you know a lot about them now. Congratulations Joe. Article: 339172 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gerryu21220@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Victrolas, anyone? Date: 8 Aug 2006 03:10:51 -0700 Message-ID: <1155031851.452436.48760@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1154370912.774566.125330@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> It was definitely a brand-new Crap-O-Phone. No genuine antique was harmed in the making of that monstrosity. Article: 339173 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question Date: 8 Aug 2006 03:28:03 -0700 Message-ID: <1155032883.089844.99390@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: > ROGER SMITH WASN'T PRESIDENT OF GM IN 1980 EITHER! > > To the best of my recollection it was either Robert Layton or Bob Lutz. > > Such a god-forsaken retard...I had 5 years of subscriptions to Motor > Trend, Car and Driver and my father the mechanic got Chilton's and > Motor Age for around 15 years. 1978-85 and mine was 82-87. Okay, seven, before I look stupid too, although his previous employer, 1971-78 had them and I read them too. Dad was a mechanic from 1968 to around 2003. Article: 339174 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155008766.867472.33420@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 04:22:10 -0700 Message-ID: > You're thirty years too late. My album consisted of one disc. It had > excerpts from the shows. Given enough time, I could find an online > discography with a picture of the album's cover and its serial number. > One site I visited today indicates that the whole affair is available > on CDs. There were actually two disks, originally issued as a set. It was later divided into two disks, "The Madison Avenue Werewolf" and "Face the Funnies". The first volume of the Smithsonian collection is a sonic disaster. Carl Amari told me that, once it sold out, he would re-master it with June Foray's tapes. However, he left Radio Spirits, and nothing (as far as I know) has been done. The radio shows -- and the first volume of "The United States of America" -- are among the high points of 20th-century humor. The second volume of "The United States of America" is a disaster that ought to be put out of its misery. Article: 339175 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155008766.867472.33420@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 04:23:10 -0700 Message-ID: One other point. The version of "Elderly Man River" on the CD is not the better version on the LP. Compare the two and you'll hear what's missing. Article: 339176 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: om2.1@netzero.net Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? Date: 8 Aug 2006 04:48:19 -0700 Message-ID: <1155037699.714849.256100@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Bob Armstrong wrote: > > And the last one I came up with is radio transmitters. If you want > to build a 50kW+ radio/TV station, then the final amp is going to be a > tube. AFAIK there's still no other option. Satellite uplinks use TWT's. In fact, the satellites themselves use TWT's. Not really high power as compared to broadcast facilities, but still the only way to go. See http://www.mcl.com/ for examples of current products. Article: 339177 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: still looking for SC 240 series chassis Date: 8 Aug 2006 05:11:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1155039060.030292.13220@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154997008.090997.45210@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Mark Oppat wrote: > Eddie, its not that common, I could guess it might take a year at least to > find one! Before the internet it would have taken several years to find a > chassis like that. > > There was a 240 at the Bolingbrook meet but it was a complete set... $375 I > think. > > Mark Oppat > > mark, SC used that chassis in several sets besides the well know 240r half round. production was probably in the 10's of thousands. got to be one lonesome chassis out there. Article: 339178 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Scott McAuley Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question References: <2cdgd2hhesq55nabvi80jrsds7fos6fejp@4ax.com> <1155030071.510239.213450@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 12:52:26 GMT The Bose powered speaker modules typically use a Bose designed 100 watt switching amplifier. Because it is a switching amp, it is very small (smaller than a pack of cigarettes) and produces very little heat, thus it can be mounted inside the speaker module itself. It can also drive very low impedance loads. Bose winds their own voice coils, so it is not unusual to see very low impedance voice coils matched to these amplifiers. Bose holds many patents on this type amplifier technology, the accoustics technology and the voice coil technology. It's a shame the patent office doesn't issue patents for ignorance and blowing smoke. If they did, our resident blowhard DesertBob would certainly hold several. Scott. Steven wrote: > DeserTBoB wrote: > >>On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 01:01:00 GMT, "Gary Tayman" >>wrote: >> >> >>>This car is a 1993 Sedan De Ville -- getting old, but certainly not in the >>>antique department. It's the stock stereo with "Symphony Sound" written on >>>it -- as opposed to the Bose or other options. >> >>That's the "stock" stereo...the "Blowz" was the option. I had a '92 >>SDV (great car in a number of ways, BTW) with the "Blowz". The stock >>one was badged as a Delco product, but made by whom, I hadn't a clue, >>although it assuredly was from the Far East. I do know that the >>"Blowz" mess had a Blaupunkt 4 track head that had horrid gap scatter >>and a weak kneed head mount that absolutely refused to hold an >>alignment for more than about 40 reverses. I only heard the "Symphony >>Sound" stock unit in loaner cars, and found it to be about on a par >>with stuff found in contemporary Chevies...not that good. >> >>If you have the fader cranked almost all the way over to balance >>channels, I'd suspect the IC power amp for that side is probably on >>its way out. When you match gain, is there a lot of distortion from >>the "soft" channel? The stock unit does not have (nor did the >>"Blowz") have outboard, descrete power amps. > > > The 1983 Symphony Sound is a UX-1 model without a clock module, the > non-Blaupunkt "clamshell" autoreverse/search deck (standard issue) and > a unique plain-looking narrow element numeric display, as opposed to > the slick fluorescent one with fancy digits common to all others. The > amp in yours may have had problems but the amp can make the rear window > physically rattle in the rear view of the mirror, especially if fader > just right to the rear and turned up. It is a more than capable amp and > the basic Delco amp is quite a nice thing and packs a wallop. > > GM cars have not had one rear speaker since the 60s. My '68 Chevelle > Deluxe sedan had two spaces, so did my 1966 Pontiac Tempest. Dolby HX > Pro is a RECORDING PROCESSOR, not a playback mode, and is usable > regardless of noise reduction use during recording. It has no bearing > on playback. It is a headroom optimizer and the results are equal on > ANY deck. > > Bose optioned Delco units were not equipped with amps AT ALL! Each > speaker in the car has it's own specially eq'd and amplified > module--much like 901s with an active equalizer. If you don't like the > sound it wasn't the head unit you were complaining about. > > You, as usual have a whole bunch of misinformation rolled into > something you don't anything about. 1993-1999 Cadillac at least would > have AM stereo reception on the various units used, and not all of them > with a button marked AM St. Camaros had a BOSE option in 1993 too as > well as the same AMS buttoned model available to Buicks that year. > Pontiac had it's own AMS model different from the others for 6000 and > other models. Theftlock was introduced around the 1994 model year with > a new AM mono tuner only, choice of cassette with autoreverse and full > search/logic controls plus Dolby B or CD player and optional changer it > looks like from the display elements. > > Cadillac stereos have a different face and mounting setup sometime into > the nineties in the newer Devilles. By 2000 Cadillac is almost > completely into the "EVOQ/CTX" styling and I lost track of those models > because I do not like the "robot" styling at all. Before 199X they are > mostly based on the interchanging GM2000 chassis, 1 1/2 DIN spacing and > all. GEO radios are double DIN like many other Japanese cars (often > dual drive cassette/CD in higher priced models and originally component > sets in the 1980s). > > >>By the way, the '93 was the last of a good line...'90-'93. '94s and >>later (with the "Samsonite" rear styling) > > > THOSE ARE THE EARLY 80s SEVILLES AND THE TRUNK WAS RESTYLED BY 1983 or > '84!!!!!!!!!! > > I had > >>mine opened up and resealed and new bearing packs installed at 150K, >>not too bad these days, and a definite improvement from those horrid >>RayGun era RWD Cads with the Chevette (THM 200) auto trans. Those >>were sort of a cruel joke foisted on buyers by none other than GM's >>worst leader, Roger Smith. > > > The Cimarron never used a Vega transmission, nor did the Vega's > followup, MONZA. Cimarron used the same transaxle as the other models > in the J-car line, Cavalier/Omega/(J)2000. Chevettes were introduced as > an ALL-NEW line about 1975, about the same time as MONZA and Vega was > introduced in 1972? > > >>Had the ol' lady not have rolled it no less than three times, I'd >>still probably have mine. That car saved her life, I might add. > > > At least SHE knows what saved her, not you. > > Now leave! > Article: 339179 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format From: "Weldon Nudlpudl" References: <1154644573.822485.193520@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154694240.516078.209140@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154863371.274934.248830@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <871cd2tr19c6ef0hrjipug3r92cvhrlf2t@4ax.com> Message-ID: <610Cg.572148$Fs1.365343@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:08:18 GMT On 7-Aug-2006, DeserTBoB wrote: > Take THIS, fuckwad. > > Member Profile: 66fourdoor (1265) > Feedback Score: 1265 > Positive Feedback: 99.8% > > Members who left a positive: 1267 > Members who left a negative: 2 > > All positive feedback received: 1517 > > No longer a registered user > > FINALLY....eBay wakes up to reality. I hope that you're right, DeserTBoB. And in that case you should take a bow. But I've seen the accounts of bad eggs come back from the dead. Article: 339180 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "duty-honor-country" Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: 8 Aug 2006 06:27:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1155043641.383044.164850@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: > DeserTBoB wrote: > > On Sun, 06 Aug 2006 08:05:27 -0700, DeserTBoB > > wrote: > > > > >On 6 Aug 2006 04:22:51 -0700, "shirked duty-dishonor-cowardice" aka > > >Charlie Nudo of Drums, PA, who never served a day of his worthless > > >life in the military) wrote: > > > > > >>looks like lady luck has caught up with DeserTBob- now he's posting > > >>tinypics of himself- he can dish it out, but can't take it > > > > Take THIS, fuckwad. > > > > Member Profile: 66fourdoor (1265) > > Feedback Score: 1265 > > Positive Feedback: 99.8% > > > > Members who left a positive: 1267 > > Members who left a negative: 2 > > > > All positive feedback received: 1517 > > > > No longer a registered user > > > > > > FINALLY....eBay wakes up to reality. > > Your turn now or can we ASSIST you? (laughter...) that's gonna leave a scar ! Article: 339181 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <_4GdnWoo_a2FnkXZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Bolingbrook pix on binaries Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:33:44 GMT "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:_4GdnWoo_a2FnkXZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > The swap meet PA was perfect, playing oldies at the right level, nobody > got > blasted out. Having not been to another meet, can you give me an idea of what music is actually being played at such events? When I DJ for a car show, it's doo-wops for sure. Still, when it comes to old time radio, it seems the proper music should be from the big band era -- not only because it's fitting to the radios themselves, but there are a lot of retirees who didn't go for rock 'n roll when it came out, and still don't after 50-some years. Personally I like music from every era, from acoustic all the way up to modern (depending on the song, of course). So it doesn't matter to me -- I try to fit the music to the personality of the audience. When I first got involved with the Sarasota shows, for music someone had a (modern) radio tuned to a "music of your life" station. I decided to do one better -- I grabbed a retro radio with built-in cassette player, and played some "Hit Parade" and other OTR music programs. Later I used a "real" radio and an AMT-3000 to do the same. This past time, someone brought some 78's and a portable record player and played records. With either of these, the crowd has grown to the point where a PA system is needed, if only to make announcements -- so for December I'm thinking of bringing my system. I can play records -- 78's, 45's, and LP's, I can play CD's, I can use the microphone, and I can output both to speakers and the AMT-3000, independently of each other. Being December I'll probably have some Christmas music, but some OTR as well. I've thought about playing some of the "Cruisin' " series, radio DJ's from the 1950's, but wondered if some of the group may not go for the music. How does this fare in other areas? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 339182 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Radio "rich" areas of the country? Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 06:26:14 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1154977084.277234.277330@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154990308.188484.138410@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> AuroraOldRadios wrote: > Survivability is another issue- who would keep an old radio and for how > long? In the 60's and 70's most tube radios were considered reminders > of the bad times of the depression so they were disposable. There were > always a lot of folks however who kept everything just in case. The > depression taught them to not throw away anything until it was > completely used up or totally trashed. Lots of radios were put away in > barns, attics, and cellars where they mostly turned to rusty, > mouse-eaten rubbish. > In 1978, I went to my Aunt Winnie's place in Wilton, Connecticut for a visit. Her place was built in 1790 and had been in the family since 1904. It was once a farm and had a number of barns and a summerhouse as well. Every room she wasn't living in was packed with furniture and other interesting stuff....mostly hand-me-downs from neighbors and friends collected over many years. This family survived the great depression and other hardships of farm life and hung on to practically everything that came into their hands. She knew that I had an interest in electronics and antique radios, and allowed me to take inventory of the items in her place. In a fairly cursory, casual search of her place I found the following: A mid-1930s RCA console in working condition (most sensitive radio anywhere in her compound) Late 1920s Atwater-Kent table radio (not a tabletop...A radio built into a table) 1920s Stromberg-Carlson coffin-box radio (blown power transformer, damn it) Victorola stand-up wind-up phonograph 1950 RCA television Late 1930s Fada tabletop radio Zenith G500 Trans-oceanic (The latter two items went home with me) That's seven radio-phono related items, and there were huge areas that went completely unexplored (I only went through about 1/20th of the stuff in the compound) In 1979, I went back to visit for a couple of days, and I had a chance to hit exactly ONE tag sale during my visit, on my way to the airport. At that tag sale I found a 600 series TO, which I purchased and checked as baggage (not recommended, though it made it back to Oregon unscathed) In November 1980, I went back to visit for the last time, and hooked up with a fellow radio collector who was about to take delivery of a rather shabby Zenith Stratosphere at an antique store a mile down the road from my aunt's house. That night, he pulled out the chassis from the cabinet and we hooked it up on his kitchen table and listened to VOA's coverage of the 1980 elections on it. My aunt's place was hardly unique. I visited most of her neighbors and they too had furnishings that were vintage, some well over 100 years old. I've no doubt that there was some vintage radios in that mix as well. The biggest factors in all this? I would say families that stay put in one place for generations is a biggie. Another one is a huge amount of discetionary space. It is probably easier (both literally and psychologically) to put an unneeded item in some unused hidey-hole than to give it to the trashman. Here on the left coast, Space is at a premium and people tend to be nomadic, moving from one place to another every few years for a variety of reasons. Both of those activities discourage hoarding, which ultimately leads to slimmer pickings at garage sales and all the other usual venues compared to those in the east. -Scott Article: 339183 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format From: "Weldon Nudlpudl" References: <1155043641.383044.164850@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <1A0Cg.572327$Fs1.388413@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:45:33 GMT On 8-Aug-2006, "duty-honor-country" wrote: >>> Member Profile: 66fourdoor (1265) >>> No longer a registered user >>> >>> FINALLY....eBay wakes up to reality. >> >> Your turn now or can we ASSIST you? > > (laughter...) that's gonna leave a scar ! Ah! I am so glad, Mr Nudo, that you are implicitly admitting that eBay woke-up to reality. Ideally, then, you will face the fact that you are a bad apple, and strive to become a better person. And, if not, then perhaps you will at least stop being such a flailing fool. Article: 339184 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format From: "Weldon Nudlpudl" References: <1154644573.822485.193520@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154694240.516078.209140@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154863371.274934.248830@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <871cd2tr19c6ef0hrjipug3r92cvhrlf2t@4ax.com> <610Cg.572148$Fs1.365343@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:50:06 GMT On 8-Aug-2006, "Weldon Nudlpudl" wrote: > I hope that you're right, DeserTBoB. And in that case you should take a bow. But I've seen the accounts of bad eggs come back from the dead. Since Mr Charles M. Nudo is trying to take satisfaction from Steven's throw-away lines, instead of sneering that his account is just temporarily de-registered, I'd say that DeserTBoB can take that bow! Article: 339185 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Question about Grid-Dip Meters Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 06:51:47 -0700 Message-ID: I have acquired two Eico 710 grid-dip meters, with one complete set of coils. After some cleanup, both units seem to be working...they oscillate at the correct frequencies and the meters move freely as they should. I haven't used one of these things in about 25 years and remember almost nothing about the experience. My Question: how dramatic a dip in grid current should I expect to get when I use the meter on a resonant circuit? I tried it on a NOS fresh-out-of-the box JW Miller 455 khz IF transformer with the metal can removed, and the meter did dip at the expected resonant frequency, but only a little...the deflection was maybe 1/10th or 1/20th of the meter's range. I really had to keep my eyes peeled to notice the change. Should the dip be more noticeable than that? Both meters seem to behave about the same. -Scott Article: 339186 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Koste" Subject: Re: Bolingbrook pix on binaries Date: 8 Aug 2006 07:16:55 -0700 Message-ID: <1155046615.540100.185100@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <_4GdnWoo_a2FnkXZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com> > I've thought about playing some of the "Cruisin' " series, radio DJ's from > the 1950's, but wondered if some of the group may not go for the music. How > does this fare in other areas? At Kutztown, DVHRC's Al Klase fires up his LPB on 1150 kHz that covers the entire Renninger's property quite nicely. DX reports from as far away as Binghamton, NY (not really). Since so many of the OTR programs were poorly recorded originally on acetates, they don't play very well in wide open spaces. In fact, the sound can be downright annoying unless you're in a closed listening environment. For demonstrating old radios, the classic Miller/Dorsey/Goodman big band recordings tend to sound the best. A few 50's type oldies and pop standards doesn't hurt the mix either. Bear in mind, there's always competion from the hifi guys, jukebox folk, the PA system (used for announcements and auctions), and WKAP, the local oldies station. Mike Koste Gobs of Knobs Ambler PA Article: 339187 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 09:19:56 -0500 From: Bill Cohn Subject: Re: Bolingbrook pix on binaries References: <_4GdnWoo_a2FnkXZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com> <1155030035.951831.197240@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: I was only able to make it on Friday (It was my wife's Birthday) but I have to agree. The weather was close to perfect and the location is a big improvement over the old Holiday Inn in Elgin. It was great seeing Mark, Gary, Art, Dan Schoo and Tom Kleinschmidt. The only thing that can be confusing to the general public or those who just want to be buyers is the parking situation. The parking lot is set up for sellers that have registered but there is no designated place for buyers who do not want sell. At Elgin there was parking on the street for non-sellers. This needs to be addressed if you want the general public to attend, IMHO. Bill Cohn - N9MHT RadioGary wrote: > Agreed all the way around. ARCI put on a good show. I cannot comment > on the facilities though as I live in the area and didn't stay. > > One comment. I noticed one vendor who's normally there, occupies a > huge amount of space, and leaves the place a mess afterwards was not in > attendence this year. That itself was a big over all improvement for > the show. :) > > > GB. > > Mark Oppat wrote: >> ....have a look, I managed to get a few shots on Saturday. By the time I >> took these, many of the sellers were packed up...but there is enough to give >> you an idea of this show. Its at a great location, the social night was >> super (the "Crown Vics" band was a super authentic a 50's band as I have >> ever seen, and I have seen MANY! I love the name, too.) ARCI Prez Dave >> Bart gave out a pile of awards and has really energized this club. >> >> The seminars were well attended too, although one was cancelled at the last >> minute. >> >> The swap meet PA was perfect, playing oldies at the right level, nobody got >> blasted out. The hotel is very nice although the food service was not the >> best I heard but then there was a very good Mexican joint next door with a >> super buffet on Friday. I ate there Saturday, and it was very good then >> too. The event's signage was extensive and very well executed. >> >> As long as pre-start time selling is controlled, this will continue to grow >> back to its former size and beyond. I would say it was very close this year >> to its former glory for sellers, but a not as many buyers as days past... >> but that should change as word spreads on this event. I didnt sell one >> 100pc pack of any value of capacitor... that is the first time thats >> happened. >> >> Its easier for most to get to this new location, too. It took me about 5 >> hours from Plymouth, MI and that included a dinner stop in Benton Harbor >> area (thursday eve). Going back on Saturday it took longer, we hit some >> construction back ups... I think it was 6.5 hrs going home. >> >> This is probably the second largest meet in the USA, behind Lansing, going >> by the amount of stuff. Charlotte might be third and Kutztown 4th and >> Beltsville/Rochester AWA tied for 5th, not sure, as I havent been back to >> Rochester since 2003 or so. >> >> Anyways, a big pat on the back to ARCI, they are doing the right stuff >> mostly. They need to add rental tables to the mix, and a larger tent with >> sales space under it like we have at Lansing. >> >> Mark Oppat > Article: 339188 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 09:43:21 -0500 From: Bill Cohn Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <0jRBg.9349$bo6.5139@bignews7.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <1MydnaQKKL6VPkXZnZ2dnUVZ_sWdnZ2d@comcast.com> That is not the way I have seen high power solid state broadcast transmitters made. The FM/TV Transmitters I have seen are made up of modules that are around 600 watts each that are fed from the same exciter then combined to the antenna. This way you have a large amount of redundancy. Any module can be replaced while the transmitter is still in operation. The failure of one module is only a small fraction of the total power so there is not much of a reduction during a failure. The modules are fed >from several power supplies so that a failure of the a power supply will only take down a portion of the final amplifier. You want more power add more cabinets with power modules. The last high power tube transmitters are the UHF IOT transmitters. They are being replaced as more efficient combiners are being developed at UHF frequencies. This is not to say that there are no tube transmitters in operation as most broadcast facilities are still using transmitters purchased some time ago. They will move to solid state as they replace the older equipment. Regards, Bill Cohn - N9MHT wa2mze(spamless) wrote: > Bob Armstrong wrote: >> I was asked to write a short article for an electronics magazine >> about applications where, even today in the 21st century, vacuum tubes >> still have not been replaced by solid state devices. >> >> One obvious one is audio - both the "Glass Audio" sound reproduction >> types as well as the musical instrument amplifiers sound production >> types. I doubt there's any serious guitarist that would even consider >> using a solid state amp. >> >> Another is microwave ovens - not just the one in your kitchen >> (although that magnetron is still a tube too!) but also the big >> industrial RF heating ones. >> >> And of course there are still countless CRTs of all shapes and sizes, >> although LCDs and other display technologies are starting to make >> inroads, still if you want to build a cheap display or a really good >> display a CRT is the choice. >> >> And the last one I came up with is radio transmitters. If you want >> to build a 50kW+ radio/TV station, then the final amp is going to be a >> tube. AFAIK there's still no other option. > Well the latest digital broadcast transmitters ARE solit state. They have > a number of power amps connected together via a combiner. The amps are > of different power output levels with one amp TWICE the power of the one > before it and HALF the power of the next one. So the transmitter is really > one high power D/A converter. And THATS's how they modulate it! By feeding > a digital audio signal to switch the required amplifiers on and off to > modulate the signal. The switching done at the sampling rate of the audio. > These amps are all solid state. So for a 50kw transmitter, the largest > amplifier would be 25kw output. (So maybe the LARGEST of the amps might > be tubes but all the smaller ones are solid state) There would be > 16 amps (for a 16bit digital D/A converter). > > >> But I'd like to find more. Am I missing any applications where >> vacuum tubes are still the preferred choice or the only choice? >> >> Thanks, >> Bob Armstrong >> Article: 339189 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 07:26:28 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1154644573.822485.193520@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154694240.516078.209140@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154863371.274934.248830@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <871cd2tr19c6ef0hrjipug3r92cvhrlf2t@4ax.com> <610Cg.572148$Fs1.365343@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:50:06 GMT, "Weldon Nudlpudl" wrote: >On 8-Aug-2006, "Weldon Nudlpudl" wrote: > >> I hope that you're right, DeserTBoB. And in that case you should take a bow. But I've seen the accounts of bad eggs come back from the dead. > >Since Mr Charles M. Nudo is trying to take satisfaction from Steven's throw-away lines, instead of sneering that his account is just temporarily de-registered, I'd say that DeserTBoB can take that bow! I'm not going to delve into cheap self-congratulation or, as Noodles did when he falsely had mine and my wife's account trashed, brag and boast. Rather, I'll take that bow and just consider it a job well done. Article: 339190 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Reed Park" References: <_4GdnWoo_a2FnkXZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Bolingbrook pix on binaries Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:10:44 GMT Hmm, I have not seen ANY images for over a week here. Just new text files, What gives ? Red -- ----- ARROW Research - (CF-105 Avro Arrow) Reed Park 916 Pre-d'en-Haut Street Memramcook, New Brunswick Canada E4K 1L1 (506)758-3128 - home (506)874-9021 - cell Amateur Radio Station VE1NU Member of the W.S. #19 Group GPS co-ordinates N 45 57.751 W -64 37.497 Article: 339191 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 07:54:55 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1155037699.714849.256100@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 8 Aug 2006 04:48:19 -0700, om2.1@netzero.net wrote: > >Bob Armstrong wrote: > >> >> And the last one I came up with is radio transmitters. If you want >> to build a 50kW+ radio/TV station, then the final amp is going to be a >> tube. AFAIK there's still no other option. > >Satellite uplinks use TWT's. In fact, the satellites themselves use >TWT's. Not really high power as compared to broadcast facilities, but >still the only way to go. When I was in the C-band satellite biz for AT&T, we used Varian klystrons for 3KW max output. When the station was built in 1976, TWT HPAs simply weren't available. The problem was that our 105' Cassagrain antennæ had 64 dB of gain at 6 GHz, so we'd have to drive the klystrons almost at idle to keep the EIRP from blowing the bird out of the sky. TWT HPAs came later, as power needs decreased due to better transponders and digital carriers. At the time we were working the INTELSAT birds in the Pacific and Atlantic from a converted DOMSAT earth station near Malibu, CA. The only time we used the whole 3 KW output of a klystron was to broadcast the first HDTV satellite link between the US and Japan back around 1990. That carrier used no compression and was huge in bandwidth, taking a full analog TV transponder. Prior to international work, that station worked the DOMSAT network (another failed AT&T project) on originally the COMSTAR D-series birds, and later AT&T's own Telstar 3 and 4 birds. Article: 339192 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: comparisons of tuning capacitors References: <1154998030.257433.123380@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 15:16:32 GMT Pete_O wrote: > Does anyone know where I can find an article showing illustrations of the 3 > types of tuning capacitors: linear freq, linear meter, linear > capacitance? > > **I don't know about "linear meter", but you shouldn't need pics for the > others. A linear freq cap will give equal spacing on the dial and the cap > blades look somewhat like half an egg with the shaft off-center toward the > pointed part. "Linear capacitance" caps are exactly half-round with the > shaft in the middle. A linear cap is lousy for the high end of dial as the > freqs are compressed very close together; these linear caps are really only > used on TRF radios- I can't recall ever seeing one on a heterodyne radio. > Hope this helps. -Pete (former cap builder for Boonton Radio and HP) "Linear meter" would give the dial scale a linear calibration in meters (wavelength), as opposed to linear calibration in, say, kilocycles (frequency). Bill Jeffrey Article: 339193 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: The Aggravating Propane Grill Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 08:02:12 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1154614821.347370.317380@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Thu, 3 Aug 2006 12:23:08 -0400, "Dave McClellan" wrote: >With my grill, if I do not follow the procedure EXACTLY, no gas. One must >start with the burner valves closed. Then turn on the tank valve. WAIT >5-10 SECONDS. Then turn on the burner and light them. To shut down, >reverse the procedure. If you have a burner valve open when you open the >tank valve, or do not wait long enough between turning on the tank and >opening the burner valve, NO GAS. That's the way it works on my grill - >HONEST! And if you screw up, it takes some time to recover. The OP obviously never read the instructions. This is normal behavior for all propane grills since they've gotten so popular. The regulators are now "idiot-proof" to prevent nasty explosions, etc. Article: 339194 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Question about Grid-Dip Meters Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 10:24:41 -0500 Message-ID: <29222-44D8ACB9-986@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: THE DIP IS IN DIRECT PROPORTION TO THE "Q" OF THE COIL. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 339195 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <_4GdnWoo_a2FnkXZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Bolingbrook pix on binaries Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 11:40:11 -0400 Message-ID: It was mostly "popular" music, not rock at all. Doris Day, Rosemary Clooney, Bing, maybe a couple Louie/Keely, Perry, that kind of stuff. Probably off a XM feed, I'm not sure. The PA supplier is a total pro, these are big horns, and its VERY well done. I even think they had some high fidelity type boxes in the bushes around the hospitality area. Mark Oppat "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:Yo0Cg.17000$Qu4.14651@trnddc04... > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:_4GdnWoo_a2FnkXZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > > > The swap meet PA was perfect, playing oldies at the right level, nobody > > got > > blasted out. > > > Having not been to another meet, can you give me an idea of what music is > actually being played at such events? > > When I DJ for a car show, it's doo-wops for sure. Still, when it comes to > old time radio, it seems the proper music should be from the big band era -- > not only because it's fitting to the radios themselves, but there are a lot > of retirees who didn't go for rock 'n roll when it came out, and still don't > after 50-some years. > > Personally I like music from every era, from acoustic all the way up to > modern (depending on the song, of course). So it doesn't matter to me -- I > try to fit the music to the personality of the audience. > > When I first got involved with the Sarasota shows, for music someone had a > (modern) radio tuned to a "music of your life" station. I decided to do one > better -- I grabbed a retro radio with built-in cassette player, and played > some "Hit Parade" and other OTR music programs. Later I used a "real" radio > and an AMT-3000 to do the same. This past time, someone brought some 78's > and a portable record player and played records. With either of these, the > crowd has grown to the point where a PA system is needed, if only to make > announcements -- so for December I'm thinking of bringing my system. I can > play records -- 78's, 45's, and LP's, I can play CD's, I can use the > microphone, and I can output both to speakers and the AMT-3000, > independently of each other. Being December I'll probably have some > Christmas music, but some OTR as well. > > I've thought about playing some of the "Cruisin' " series, radio DJ's from > the 1950's, but wondered if some of the group may not go for the music. How > does this fare in other areas? > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > Article: 339196 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Question about Grid-Dip Meters References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 11:47:28 -0400 Also, it depends on how good the coupling/positioning is between the mtr coil and test coil. Ken Scott W. Harvey wrote: > I have acquired two Eico 710 grid-dip meters, with one complete set of > coils. After some cleanup, both units seem to be working...they > oscillate at the correct frequencies and the meters move freely as they > should. I haven't used one of these things in about 25 years and > remember almost nothing about the experience. > > My Question: how dramatic a dip in grid current should I expect to get > when I use the meter on a resonant circuit? I tried it on a NOS > fresh-out-of-the box JW Miller 455 khz IF transformer with the metal can > removed, and the meter did dip at the expected resonant frequency, but > only a little...the deflection was maybe 1/10th or 1/20th of the meter's > range. I really had to keep my eyes peeled to notice the change. Should > the dip be more noticeable than that? Both meters seem to behave about > the same. > > -Scott Article: 339197 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: nospam4me@mytrashmail.com (RadicalModerate) Subject: Re: FA: Fibre Needles, EMG Handmade Gramophone (phonograph) packet (not tin) Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 17:27:11 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1154693477.131200.44210@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1154695537.311732.318220@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154706293.224188.16750@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1154725951.935344.290880@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In rec.antiques.radio+phono Steven wrote: > It was the silver colored one perhaps. My only beef is the use of Real. > I cannot deal with that player or Quicktime and have to look for the > alternative codecs which IIRC aren't much of a relief. Those were one-off aluminum disks which required a fibre needle due to the heavy pickups of that era. You might want to give "Real Alternative" a try http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative.htm Get the "full" version which includes Media Player Classic . -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Herb Oxley From: address IS Valid. Article: 339198 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: nospam4me@mytrashmail.com (RadicalModerate) Subject: Re: Victrolas, anyone? Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 17:36:33 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1154370912.774566.125330@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Whoever wrote: > Just thought I'd drop this in: someone actually tore up an old > gramophone to shove a computer into it! > http://www.mini-itx.com/projects/gramaphone-itx-hd/ Sure looks like a Crapohone to me! -- -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Herb Oxley From: address IS Valid. Article: 339199 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jerry" Subject: Magnola Talking Machine Date: 8 Aug 2006 10:58:06 -0700 Message-ID: <1155059886.184426.308280@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Has anyone heard of Magnola Talking Machine Company in Chicago, IL. I have upright machine and even have a catalog of their machines. they were all uprights starting at 85.00. The machine has a universal reproducer and a Motor of Quality motor. DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THESE MOTORS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE NOISY? I have adjusted the governor, and even swapped fibre gears. Is this a noisy motor? Jerry Article: 339200 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:43:03 -0500 Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question From: John Stone Message-ID: References: <2cdgd2hhesq55nabvi80jrsds7fos6fejp@4ax.com> <1155030071.510239.213450@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> On 8/8/06 7:52 AM, in article eO%Bg.1425$Qf.1092@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net, "Scott McAuley" wrote: > The Bose powered speaker modules typically use a Bose designed 100 watt > switching amplifier. Because it is a switching amp, it is very small > (smaller than a pack of cigarettes) and produces very little heat, thus > it can be mounted inside the speaker module itself. I don't know what Bose is up to today regarding amplifiers but I sincerely doubt there was a switching amp in an early 90's Cadillac. An amp with a switching supply, maybe. Switching amps are still mostly used in subwoofer applications where a lot of power but not much high frequency response is needed. That is gradually changing, however. >It can also drive > very low impedance loads. Bose winds their own voice coils, so it is not > unusual to see very low impedance voice coils matched to these > amplifiers. Once you have a switching supply, there's no good reason to go with a low impedance driver. As long as the voltage swing is available, any load impedance can be chosen and the amplifier optimized for it. In a switching amplifier, low impedance is not that desirable because it adds complexity to the output LPF. >Bose holds many patents on this type amplifier technology, > the accoustics technology and the voice coil technology. Well yeah, whatever. But truth be told, I've never seen Bose do anything that wasn't done somewhere else first. Low impedance coils are nothing new, and switching amplifiers existed before Bose did. Many companies hold patents on all kinds of technology. Bose patents tend to be narrowly focused, and they have a reputation for being rather litigious. As for switching amplifiers, the real leaders in this area are B&O with their ICEpower system and Tripath with their T-amp modules. > > It's a shame the patent office doesn't issue patents for ignorance and > blowing smoke. If they did, our resident blowhard DesertBob would > certainly hold several. > I know you are joking, but the fact is that the patent office has pretty much become a joke. The basic premise is that patents are given based on the "honesty" of the person making the application. If prior art isn't cited in the application, the patent office doesn't go looking for it. Hence, many patents are issued on ideas that already exist or have no inventive step. It is then left up to court challenge to see if a patent can stand. Some don't. But many do simply because the legal costs to overturn a patent are so huge. > > Article: 339201 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 12:16:51 -0700 Message-ID: <8mohd29vdr4q9hnofci1jjml85654n13i9@4ax.com> References: <2cdgd2hhesq55nabvi80jrsds7fos6fejp@4ax.com> <1155030071.510239.213450@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 12:52:26 GMT, Scott McAuley wrote: >It's a shame the patent office doesn't issue patents for ignorance and >blowing smoke. If they did, our resident blowhard DesertBob would >certainly hold several. Got no highs? Got no lows. Only midrange...MUST BE BOSE! ...and no, I don't give a rat's ass what you think. Article: 339202 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Cadillac Stereo Question Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 12:20:10 -0700 Message-ID: References: <2cdgd2hhesq55nabvi80jrsds7fos6fejp@4ax.com> <1155030071.510239.213450@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:43:03 -0500, John Stone wrote: >I don't know what Bose is up to today regarding amplifiers but >I sincerely doubt there was a switching amp in an early 90's Cadillac. There wasn't. Scott's just full of crap and looking for a vacant stall. >Once you have a switching supply, there's no good reason to go with a low >impedance driver. As long as the voltage swing is available, any load >impedance can be chosen and the amplifier optimized for it. In a switching >amplifier, low impedance is not that desirable because it adds complexity to >the output LPF. ANY properly equipped SS power amp can drive "very low impedance loads," since the source impedance is practically a dead short. More ignorance on Scott's part. >Well yeah, whatever. But truth be told, I've never seen Bose do anything >that wasn't done somewhere else first. Low impedance coils are nothing new, >and switching amplifiers existed before Bose did. Not only that, but "Blowz" manages to engineer every last nickel out of their crap, preferring instead to rely on hype and startopherically priced ad campaigns to move their crap. Amar Bose did that very same thing with the notoriously bad 901 frauds. Article: 339203 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: Question about Grid-Dip Meters Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 12:22:34 -0700 Message-ID: References: <44D8CD17.8E4FF0D0@earthlink.net> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:43:49 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: > The higher the "Q", the deeper the dip. Better still, fish it out of the circuit and use an LCR bridge and do the math. I used to use grid dippers years ago, but the state of the art, even for the home bench putterer, has eclipsed this inaccurate technology. Article: 339204 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Question about Grid-Dip Meters Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 15:09:45 -0500 Message-ID: <29222-44D8EF89-1038@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: BS CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 339205 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1154997008.090997.45210@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1155039060.030292.13220@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: still looking for SC 240 series chassis Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 17:21:00 -0400 Message-ID: <-uidnX5C1ufvYkXZnZ2dnUVZ_tednZ2d@comcast.com> I'm sure there is a lone spare chassis, I'm just warming you up to a long search. In all my years of doing this, I've only had maybe 2 of 3 SC parts chassis, vs dozens of Philco, RCA, GE or Zenith. Dominic Sanchez in TX somewhere and John England in Rochester, NY area are the only SC only collectors I know of. Both used to advertise in ARC years ago. Mark "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1155039060.030292.13220@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Mark Oppat wrote: > > Eddie, its not that common, I could guess it might take a year at least to > > find one! Before the internet it would have taken several years to find a > > chassis like that. > > > > There was a 240 at the Bolingbrook meet but it was a complete set... $375 I > > think. > > > > Mark Oppat > > > > > mark, > SC used that chassis in several sets besides the well know 240r half > round. production was probably in the 10's of thousands. got to be one > lonesome chassis out there. > > Article: 339206 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Beloved Leader" Subject: Re: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Date: 8 Aug 2006 14:24:19 -0700 Message-ID: <1155072259.688849.36040@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> William Sommerwerck wrote: > One other point. The version of "Elderly Man River" on the CD is not the > better version on the LP. Compare the two and you'll hear what's missing. Too bad. That's a great song. Years ahead of its time. Running in my head all day: "Wide Screen Mama, Don't You Cinerama Me." Article: 339207 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: still looking for SC 240 series chassis Date: 8 Aug 2006 14:25:42 -0700 Message-ID: <1155072341.941634.5900@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154997008.090997.45210@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Mark Oppat wrote: > I'm sure there is a lone spare chassis, I'm just warming you up to a long > search. In all my years of doing this, I've only had maybe 2 of 3 SC parts > chassis, vs dozens of Philco, RCA, GE or Zenith. > Dominic Sanchez in TX somewhere and John England in Rochester, NY area are > the only SC only collectors I know of. Both used to advertise in ARC years > ago. > > Mark > shhh...you will throw bad karma my way. i have already been looking for a chassis for over a year. i have about a dozen SC's...does that make me a SC collector? :) i like to think i am! Article: 339208 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Bolingbrook pix on binaries Message-ID: References: <_4GdnWoo_a2FnkXZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com> Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2006 21:45:52 GMT On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:33:44 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >I've thought about playing some of the "Cruisin' " series, radio DJ's from >the 1950's, but wondered if some of the group may not go for the music. How >does this fare in other areas? Please, don't do that. Article: 339209 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 22:04:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1xSBg.4861$9T3.1932@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> In <1xSBg.4861$9T3.1932@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> patrick jankowiak writes: >Are photomultiplier tubes still used behind radioflourescent crystals >as scintillation detectors or as detectors for flying spot scanners? For particle physics, I believe so, but for telecine the flying-spot scanner has been long replaced with line-array CCD's illuminated with a xenon lamp. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 339210 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 22:04:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1xSBg.4861$9T3.1932@newssvr25.news.prodigy.net> In patrick jankowiak writes: >and the "Klystrode" by Varian. And Varian's "Clinac", their linear accelerator for medical clinic use. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 339211 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Kenny" Subject: Re: high-freq speaker in German radio Date: 8 Aug 2006 15:24:06 -0700 Message-ID: <1155075846.528964.327240@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: Joe L. wrote: > > The Emud Rekord 60 now has both electrostatic speakers working, but the > results seem underwhelming. Maybe my ears just can't hear high > frequencies so well. But it seems these tweeters add little if anything > to the overall sound. Mind you, the radio still sounds _great_. Perhaps > the tweeters were mainly a marketing gimmick in the "hi-fi" age. > Joe: Your ears are probably not deceiving you. I own several German radios of different makes which also use the electrostatic tweeters in the sides. They used these to smooth treble response so it wouldn't seem to "roll off" drastically when listening off-axis. The amount of treble seems to have varied by manufacturer to cater to what they thought their customers would find most natural. My Loewe, Telefunken, Saba, Blaupunkt, and Philips units employing this design all sound very different, with the Telefunken Gavotte producing the hottest treble of all. Ken Article: 339212 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) Subject: BC-342/312 series of receivers. Date: 8 Aug 2006 22:24:42 GMT Message-ID: I have noticed that the serial numbers and history of BC-348 and R-39x radios have been collected at various web sites. I have a fair collection of BC0312/342 stuff and thought I should start a list for them. I have been pulling nameplate photos off of Ebay and taking photos of my own units. As a start I have: BC-312 SN 236 14598-NY-37 GE BC-312-D SN 1189 1263-NY-41 RCA BC-312-F SN 156 2903-NY-42 Farnsworth BC-312-M SN 10707 31916-PHILA-43 CRV (RCA for Navy) BC-312-M SN 13013 33060-PHILA-43 CRV (RCA for Navy) BC-342-D SN 1413 1263-NY-41 RCA BC-342-N SN 2075 4611-PHILA-42 Farnsworth BC-342-N SN 178 14364-PHILA-43 Farnsworth BC-342-N SN 2037 16133-PHILA-43 Farnsworth (rebuilt as OA-65-A by B&W) BC-342-N SN 2517 4222-PHILA-44 CFN (Farnsworth for Navy) BC-342-N SN 2837 10651-PHILA-44 Farnsworth I will be putting the nameplates on a web site (the ld BC-312 is already up at: http://novatech-instr.com/Ebay_Images/bc312plt.jpg ). Anyone have others to share. It would be nice to have at least one from each version. According to my docs, there are: BC-312, A, C, D, E, F, G, J, L, M, N, HX and NX BC-342, A, C, D, F, J, L, M and N as well as their LF versions: BC-314, C, D, E and G BC-344, D These were still being used well into the 50s. Steve. -- Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Article: 339213 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <_4GdnWoo_a2FnkXZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Bolingbrook pix on binaries Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 18:18:33 -0500 Message-ID: <44d90e8a$0$1641$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:TZydnS7WWpUPMkXZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > It was mostly "popular" music, not rock at all. Doris Day, Rosemary > Clooney, Bing, maybe a couple Louie/Keely, Perry, that kind of stuff. > Probably off a XM feed, I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure that's exactly what it was, because I listen to XM 4 regularly and it was pretty much the same playlist. (I noticed it when I caught myself whistling Buddy Clark's all-too-familiar "Linda", and realizing it was playing over the PA just then.) If you're not familiar with the station, go to xmradio.com and sign up for a 3-day trial, and listen on your computer for a few hours to get a feel for the playlist. It's '30s stuff through the swing era to the Andrews Sisters and Bing Crosby, to early Sinatra, Dinah Snore and Perry Coma (not my favorites, can you tell? :-) Perfect backdrop for an old-radio show IMHO, but I may be a bit biased..... -p. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 339214 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Bolingbrook pix on binaries Date: 8 Aug 2006 16:34:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1155080040.369328.43760@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <_4GdnWoo_a2FnkXZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com> Oh come on now, what's wrong with fake air checks of Jack Carney, Johnny Holiday, and Hunter Hancock? The perfect way to cheapen any enviroment with lame authenticity or the lack of. I agree, bring out the old seventy eights, grab the low power AM transmitter, and go to town with all those old radios in the crowd paying the good old tunes. Brian McAllister wrote: > On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:33:44 GMT, "Gary Tayman" > wrote: > > >I've thought about playing some of the "Cruisin' " series, radio DJ's from > >the 1950's, but wondered if some of the group may not go for the music. How > >does this fare in other areas? > > > Please, don't do that. Article: 339215 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: <7584-44D6E380-213@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Need a pair of balloon tubes Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 18:34:54 -0500 Message-ID: I've seen those too but I need a working pair. "Ken G." wrote in message news:7584-44D6E380-213@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net... >I have been seeing 50`s on ebay lately go for under 50$ > Article: 339216 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <_4GdnWoo_a2FnkXZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com> <44d90e8a$0$1641$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Subject: Re: Bolingbrook pix on binaries Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 19:42:31 -0400 Message-ID: yep, my taste is MUCH bluesier, folkier, funkier and edgier mostly. I also like the OLD classic country like Hank Thompson, Hank the first, Ernest Tubb, Bob Wills, etc. I'd be playing Taj Mahal, Flying Burrito Brothers, Dave Alvin, Lucinda Williams, .... Siegal Schwall Blues Band.... uh, basically stuff nobody knows. The Crown Vics band at the banquet were a hoot. Mark Oppat "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:44d90e8a$0$1641$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:TZydnS7WWpUPMkXZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > It was mostly "popular" music, not rock at all. Doris Day, Rosemary > > Clooney, Bing, maybe a couple Louie/Keely, Perry, that kind of stuff. > > Probably off a XM feed, I'm not sure. > > I'm pretty sure that's exactly what it was, because I listen to XM 4 > regularly and it was pretty much the same playlist. (I noticed it when I > caught myself whistling Buddy Clark's all-too-familiar "Linda", and > realizing it was playing over the PA just then.) > > If you're not familiar with the station, go to xmradio.com and sign up for a > 3-day trial, and listen on your computer for a few hours to get a feel for > the playlist. It's '30s stuff through the swing era to the Andrews Sisters > and Bing Crosby, to early Sinatra, Dinah Snore and Perry Coma (not my > favorites, can you tell? :-) Perfect backdrop for an old-radio show IMHO, > but I may be a bit biased..... > > -p. > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > > Article: 339217 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Date: 8 Aug 2006 16:52:43 -0700 Message-ID: <1155081163.556758.191980@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Beloved Leader wrote: > William Sommerwerck wrote: > > One other point. The version of "Elderly Man River" on the CD is not the > > better version on the LP. Compare the two and you'll hear what's missing. > > Too bad. That's a great song. Years ahead of its time. > > Running in my head all day: "Wide Screen Mama, Don't You Cinerama Me." Does she smoke 70mm cigarettes? Article: 339218 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <0gmfd2h7pdt77baqksepipkkvil9h1ck7h@4ax.com> <1155002002.629314.198400@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <8h1gd2911nt5fbgrsp8htll8up5tqcn6m0@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier replacement question Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 16:57:47 -0700 Message-ID: > Cathode (striped) end of the diode faces toward the + of the filter > cap? The stripe should be on the same end as the vertical bar in the schematic symbol that looks like: >| The Pilotuner is a sweet little unit. A friend gave me a restored one a few years ago, and it sounds great in conjunction with my HH Scott 210-B mono amp. Regards, Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 339219 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155008766.867472.33420@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1155072259.688849.36040@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 17:06:54 -0700 Message-ID: <5vqdnSRZQ4qPukTZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com> >> One other point. The version of "Elderly Man River" on the CD is not the >> better version on the LP. Compare the two and you'll hear what's missing. > Too bad. That's a great song. Years ahead of its time. > Running in my head all day: "Wide Screen Mama, Don't You Cinerama Me." "Yogurt mama, don't you Gaylord Hauser me." (Gaylord Hauser was a '50s proponent of natural foods.) Article: 339220 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Bolingbrook pix on binaries Date: 8 Aug 2006 17:07:55 -0700 Message-ID: <1155082075.271746.224550@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <_4GdnWoo_a2FnkXZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com> Mark Oppat wrote: > yep, my taste is MUCH bluesier, folkier, funkier and edgier mostly. I also > like the OLD classic country like Hank Thompson, Hank the first, Ernest > Tubb, Bob Wills, etc. I'd be playing Taj Mahal, Flying Burrito Brothers, > Dave Alvin, Lucinda Williams, .... Siegal Schwall Blues Band.... uh, > basically stuff nobody knows. > > The Crown Vics band at the banquet were a hoot. > > Mark Oppat My grandma would play any Hank but Junior (grandpa had a pacemaker and an artificial valve and his Timex wouldn't keep on tickin' if it took THAT lickin'). Happy to say I finally got a copy of "Six Pack To Go" and another LP of his recently. PS They are trying to raise funds to keep the Aquatic Center open here. I said it should've been a George Clinton pool and they should "tear the roof off the sucker" to make it an outdoor pool like the old one. Recognize all but two of those cats...I'll have to study harder. Article: 339221 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Bolingbrook pix on binaries Date: 8 Aug 2006 17:21:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1155082878.280271.295130@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <_4GdnWoo_a2FnkXZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com> Reed Park wrote: > Hmm, I have not seen ANY images for over a week here. > Just new text files, What gives ? > > Red Did you look in the files for new stuff on Scott Harvey's ABPR archives yet? Article: 339222 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Date: 8 Aug 2006 17:23:09 -0700 Message-ID: <1155082989.083334.55630@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> William Sommerwerck wrote: > >> One other point. The version of "Elderly Man River" on the CD is not the > >> better version on the LP. Compare the two and you'll hear what's missing. > > > Too bad. That's a great song. Years ahead of its time. > > > Running in my head all day: "Wide Screen Mama, Don't You Cinerama Me." > > "Yogurt mama, don't you Gaylord Hauser me." > > (Gaylord Hauser was a '50s proponent of natural foods.) We don't get food from outer space? Isn't all food natural? Article: 339223 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Bolingbrook pix on binaries Date: 8 Aug 2006 17:59:57 -0700 Message-ID: <1155085197.346303.153970@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <_4GdnWoo_a2FnkXZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com> Steven wrote: > Reed Park wrote: > > Hmm, I have not seen ANY images for over a week here. > > Just new text files, What gives ? > > > > Red > > Did you look in the files for new stuff on Scott Harvey's ABPR archives > yet? Well, it looks like some are starting to show up, but it the entrance sign and some trays of parts, Mark Oppat's tent...actually that's about it at the moment. Article: 339224 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: tbavis@_remove_this_rochester.rr.com (Tom Bavis) Subject: Re: still looking for SC 240 series chassis Message-ID: <44d9363a.7812546@news-server> References: <1154997008.090997.45210@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 01:15:57 GMT On 7 Aug 2006 17:30:08 -0700, "Eddie Brimer" wrote: >thanks to john goller i now have the escutcheon. thanks again john! i >owe you one. still need the chassis, speaker and knobs. i would be >happy to find one person with all, but i will settle for anything. >this is a fairly common chassis. c'mon guys...make my life complete! > I can't help with the hardware... but I have the Stromberg Engineering data if you need it. Scan at http://www.audiophool.cjb.net/MadeInRoch.html Article: 339225 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: docsavage20@yahoo.com Subject: Shadow on side of image from B&H 8mm projector in fwd but not reverse Date: 8 Aug 2006 18:20:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1155086444.611011.314920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Running into an issue with a Bell & Howell dual 8 projector I just got. I find that there's an odd shadowing that runs up the right side (as viewed facing the screen - i.e. the non-sprocket side). The same film run through a GAF projector doesn't exhibit this, as shown on the web page I've put up to demonstrate what I'm talking about - they're within a frame or two of being the same frame - a shot of the sky to have a more uniform background for comparison. http://home.mpinet.net/~docsavage20/shadow_example/Document.html Notice how far in it intrudes into the image in relation to the piece of camera crud in the upper right. It's actually more prevalent than what may come across from these stills. The shadow isn't constant, it flickers a bit. However, I discovered it *doesn't* do this when projecting in reverse. Any suggestions as to the cause and more importantly the cure for this? I'm possessed of reasonable mechanical aptitude, not averse to digging into the guts of the projector if need be. All input appreciated. Article: 339226 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <_4GdnWoo_a2FnkXZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com> <1155080040.369328.43760@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Bolingbrook pix on binaries Message-ID: <40bCg.70214$Lh4.61128@trnddc02> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 01:38:08 GMT "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1155080040.369328.43760@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Oh come on now, what's wrong with fake air checks of Jack Carney, > Johnny Holiday, and Hunter Hancock? The perfect way to cheapen any > enviroment with lame authenticity or the lack of. I agree, bring out > the old seventy eights, grab the low power AM transmitter, and go to > town with all those old radios in the crowd paying the good old tunes. > Don't worry Brian, I'll pretty much keep the same format I've been using. However those "Cruisin' " series are NOT fake airchecks. They're real, but they're indeed cut and chopped. Why? My assumption is that it's partly to stick a 4 hour program into about 40 minutes, and then also I'm sure because of licensing of the songs that are used. Any songs that couldn't get licensed for the purpose would have to be cut out. Funny, but I've heard, and have a few clippings of, the real broadcast versions of the same programs, and they make a lot more sense. For example, are you familiar with the Dick Biondi CD? Out of nowhere he asks, "How 'bout that boss of mine?" Here's the REAL version: He begins the show with "You'll never guess what my boss did to me, as soon as I get here he calls me into his office and says 'Dick' " . . . and then he plays the song "You Talk Too Much." When the song is over he says, "This is Dick Biondi from the big KB -- how 'bout that boss of mine? I walk in, first thing I get -- 'You talk too much!' Hey everybody that ding dong just left here, he's headed for the Shea Buffalo, he's driving a great big Impala -- it's a convertible. If you see it throw rocks at it, it'll serve him right!" This is followed by a Studebaker commercial. I would love to get all of this uncut and in its entirety. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 339227 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: The Aggravating Propane Grill Date: 8 Aug 2006 19:00:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1155088811.448616.206770@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154614821.347370.317380@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> DeserTBoB wrote: > The OP obviously never read the instructions. Wow. What a rude turkey butt. Tox Article: 339228 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: pgonshor@aol.com Subject: Was in SLC Date: 8 Aug 2006 20:05:09 -0700 Message-ID: <1155092709.481961.180620@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Found a place called SLC Instrument Co. Turns out he is mostly vacuum tubes and meters and a bunch of other old old stuff. Not much at all in the way of old radio stuff, except an old Hallicrafters receiver. I bought a dozen eye tubes for a hundred bucks, various brands, new old stock. Plus a couple of red tops in the box. It wasn't cheap (he knew the values), but below the going price. Email me for contact information. He has thousands of tubes. One 50, no 300B's or 1L6's, etc., but still some good stuff, Dave Article: 339229 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: paul.beaudry@gmail.com Subject: De Forest Crosley "Handel" 8D892 Date: 8 Aug 2006 20:07:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1155092825.313244.249890@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Hi all, I have been given my grandfather's beautiful floor model De Forest Crosley radio. It still works very well on all bands, but the auto tuning no longer works. The cabinet is in beautiful shape. I can't find any information on the web for this radio. I know it was the 1938 model, made by Rogers in Toronto, Canada under the De Forest Crosley name. I believe it is the same as the "Herbert" model but with automatic tuning. Are tubes hard to find (or impossible)? Any more info would be so appreciated. Anyone have any guesses as to value? Should I be adding an insurance rider for it? Thanks, Paul Article: 339230 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Magnola Talking Machine Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 23:14:11 -0400 Message-ID: <12dikoebfsrjle8@corp.supernews.com> References: <1155059886.184426.308280@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> I've owned and worked on a few "generic" crank phonos and about half were quite noisy despite thorough greasing and much adjustment. John H. Article: 339231 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Mike Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier replacement question Message-ID: References: <0gmfd2h7pdt77baqksepipkkvil9h1ck7h@4ax.com> <1155002002.629314.198400@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <8h1gd2911nt5fbgrsp8htll8up5tqcn6m0@4ax.com> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 03:28:07 GMT On Tue, 8 Aug 2006 16:57:47 -0700, "Phil Nelson" wrote: >> Cathode (striped) end of the diode faces toward the + of the filter >> cap? > >The stripe should be on the same end as the vertical bar in the schematic >symbol that looks like: > >>| > >The Pilotuner is a sweet little unit. A friend gave me a restored one a few >years ago, and it sounds great in conjunction with my HH Scott 210-B mono >amp. > >Regards, > >Phil Nelson >Phil's Old Radios >http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > Cool! I can't wait to get it going. You wouldn't happen to know where I could get a spare knob for a reasonable price would you? I found one for 20 bucks but for that much I could buy a whole unit! Mike Article: 339232 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Bolingbrook pix on binaries Date: 8 Aug 2006 20:32:59 -0700 Message-ID: <1155094378.931715.4670@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <_4GdnWoo_a2FnkXZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com> They're FAKE airchecks Brian, despite what some people say. The only things that are real about those albums is the commercial breaks, and of course the music. RadioGary wrote: > Oh come on now, what's wrong with fake air checks of Jack Carney, > Johnny Holiday, and Hunter Hancock? The perfect way to cheapen any > enviroment with lame authenticity or the lack of. I agree, bring out > the old seventy eights, grab the low power AM transmitter, and go to > town with all those old radios in the crowd paying the good old tunes. > > > Brian McAllister wrote: > > On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:33:44 GMT, "Gary Tayman" > > wrote: > > > > >I've thought about playing some of the "Cruisin' " series, radio DJ's from > > >the 1950's, but wondered if some of the group may not go for the music. How > > >does this fare in other areas? > > > > > > Please, don't do that. Article: 339233 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1155092825.313244.249890@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: De Forest Crosley "Handel" 8D892 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 20:39:35 -0700 Message-ID: <3aSdnajvYc9jxUTZnZ2dnUVZ_oKdnZ2d@giganews.com> > It still works very well on all bands, but the auto tuning no > longer works. May need simple lubrication and (less likely) some spray solvent cleaner such as DeOxit, carefully applied, to the mechanisms. > The cabinet is in beautiful shape. Enjoy! > I can't find any information on the web for this radio. Try contacting The Society for the Preservation of Antique Radio in Canada: http://www3.telus.net/radiomuseum/ > Are tubes hard to find (or impossible)? Most radio tubes are readily available and inexpensive. A couple of bucks, or a few, each. Check out sources such as: http://antiqueradio.org/parts.htm Every radio of that vintage will also require routine capacitor replacement. Read this article: http://antiqueradio.org/recap.html > Anyone have any guesses as to value? > Should I be adding an insurance rider for it? Most old radios are valued in the low hundreds, not thousands. I would not waste money on extra insurance until you have a few dozen of these :-) Regards, Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 339234 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1155092825.313244.249890@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <3aSdnajvYc9jxUTZnZ2dnUVZ_oKdnZ2d@giganews.com> Subject: Re: De Forest Crosley "Handel" 8D892 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 20:49:28 -0700 Message-ID: <1fidnRe5e6zQxkTZnZ2dnUVZ_t2dnZ2d@giganews.com> > http://antiqueradio.dork/recap.html Sorry, typing too fast (let's see if we get it right this time :-). The correct URL should be: http://antiqueradio.org/recap.htm Phil Article: 339235 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ken Layton" Subject: Re: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Date: 8 Aug 2006 20:52:46 -0700 Message-ID: <1155095566.820887.102740@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Ah my favorite----Stan Freberg-----happy birthday! I have the set of his radio shows and they are a scream! I even have that special "Tip of the Freberg" collection with his radio and tv commercials---love it. :) I love hearing all the crazy characters voiced by the greats like Daws Butler, Paul Frees, Peter Leeds, and June Foray. The Honey Earthers is one of my favorites! Ken Layton Olympia, Wash. Article: 339236 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" References: <1155092825.313244.249890@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: De Forest Crosley "Handel" 8D892 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 22:54:48 -0500 wrote in message news:1155092825.313244.249890@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > Hi all, I have been given my grandfather's beautiful floor model De > Forest > Crosley radio. > > It still works very well on all bands, but the auto tuning no longer > works. > > The cabinet is in beautiful shape. > > I can't find any information on the web for this radio. > > I know it was the 1938 model, made by Rogers in Toronto, Canada under > the De Forest Crosley name. I believe it is the same as the "Herbert" > model but with automatic > tuning. > > Are tubes hard to find (or impossible)? > > Any more info would be so appreciated. > > Anyone have any guesses as to value? Should I be adding an insurance > rider > for it? > > Thanks, Paul > Paul, I have one here. If you have access to the RCC manuals, check the Rogers Majestic page 50, and associated pages. Failing that, I can email you several pages of stuff. Tubes IMO are not that difficult to find. It also has a very nice sound for a single ended output. The dial and its stringing is a bit of a marvel, with a light in the back projecting a bright line on the back of the dial. The light and its socket riding on the arm not only has to move back and forth as you tune it, but up and down the arm as different bands are selected. Maybe you've already seen that. The motor is similar to the motors they used to use in the old electric train sets... pretty simple, and rewindable. Two vulnerable points are the sliding contacts on the rear contactor plates, and the thermostatic switch on the motor. Think I paid about $135 Cdn for this one, unrestored in Winnipeg a couple of years ago. BTW: No mosquitoes here this summer! :>)) Cheers, Nelson Article: 339237 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ken Layton" Subject: Re: Shadow on side of image from B&H 8mm projector in fwd but not reverse Date: 8 Aug 2006 20:59:49 -0700 Message-ID: <1155095989.102481.311820@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1155086444.611011.314920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> First of all, a suggestion would be to join the projector forums at www.film-center.com and www.16mmfilmtalk.com Second, It's possible that your still picture safety screen is drooping into the picture area. Possibly something is binding it in the forward direction. Could even be possible that your projector drive belt has stretched (a common problem on all B&H machines regardless of format). Even your lamp cooling blower may have clogged fins allowing the lamp to heat up gate parts excessively in the forward direction. On dual 8mm projectors sometimes the slide lever that changes formats can bind enough to prevent full travel of aperture masking device. Article: 339238 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ken Layton" Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? Date: 8 Aug 2006 21:04:14 -0700 Message-ID: <1155096253.996605.167090@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Drive-in movie theaters that still have speakers in the field use tube amplifiers. Many use either 6L6's in the outputs or 807's. Article: 339239 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "L." References: <44D8CD17.8E4FF0D0@earthlink.net> <44D95404.FBA695B4@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Question about Grid-Dip Meters Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 00:05:38 -0400 Message-ID: <44d95f07$0$6590$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44D95404.FBA695B4@earthlink.net... > DeserTBoB wrote: >> >> On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 17:43:49 GMT, "Michael A. Terrell" >> wrote: >> >> > The higher the "Q", the deeper the dip. >> >> Better still, fish it out of the circuit and use an LCR bridge and do >> the math. I used to use grid dippers years ago, but the state of the >> art, even for the home bench putterer, has eclipsed this inaccurate >> technology. > > > The grid dip meter was intended to get you in the general area > without a lot of test equipment. It was handy inside a big broadcast > transmitter to find out if the tuned stages were close enough that you > should get some output. Then you could narrow down the failure and get > back on the air. Sometimes you don't have the option of removing the > components to test them. For smaller items, I put a 1K to 10K resistor > from the output of a signal generator and use a scope or RF > millivoltmeter to test a tuned circuit without affecting the "Q". > > > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida An "older" friend of mine used to "always" mention "Grid Dip Meter" to me when talking of repairing. The way he mentioned it, you'd swear it was God's gift to electronics repair. At that time, I'd read about them, seen a few here and there but never owned or used one. Finally, one day I found one - a complete set up - so I bought it. I've played with it a few times. Quite frankly, I don't see what all his hoopla was about - it is no big deal. I've repaired many things before without it and I"ll continue to repair many things after it. As for the GD meter - it most likely will stay in the box it came in - "buried" in my tool chest - right where it belongs. lou Article: 339240 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: SC classic skyscraper with a new home Date: 8 Aug 2006 21:12:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1155096721.888577.196480@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Stromberg-Carlson skyscraper radio/phono 145p. Needs a ton of veneer work, but is mostly there. I took the chassis/speaker/tt home tonite, will pick up cabinet in a day or 2. Article: 339241 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "cmdr buzz corey" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor = GONE Date: 8 Aug 2006 22:09:02 -0700 Message-ID: <1155100142.926773.172280@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: DeserTBoB wrote: > http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=66fourdoor&iid= > > FINALLY.... Long overdue. Article: 339242 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: docsavage20@yahoo.com Subject: Re: Shadow on side of image from B&H 8mm projector in fwd but not reverse Date: 8 Aug 2006 22:35:25 -0700 Message-ID: <1155101725.198561.32480@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1155086444.611011.314920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Ken Layton wrote: > First of all, a suggestion would be to join the projector forums at > www.film-center.com and www.16mmfilmtalk.com I'll give it a try, thanks for the tip > Second, It's possible that your still picture safety screen is drooping > into the picture area. > Possibly something is binding it in the forward > direction. Hmm. Would that cause the flickery appearance thought? > On dual 8mm projectors sometimes the slide lever that changes formats > can bind enough to prevent full travel of aperture masking device. Probably worth mentioning that I've modified it by enlarging the 8mm aperture with a Dremel so that it's flush with or even slightly wider than the window in the film path. The reason I did this is to make more of the image visible. I can pretty well guarantee no part of the masking device is intruding into the image. Article: 339243 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Whoever Subject: Re: 66fourdoor = GONE References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 08:28:04 GMT DeserTBoB wrote: > > > FINALLY.... Excellent! Now you can pat yourself on the back for a job well done -- at least until ol' Nudie gets back on his feet! Article: 339244 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 22:39:57 +1200 From: ColinD Subject: Re: Shadow on side of image from B&H 8mm projector in fwd but not References: <1155086444.611011.314920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <44d9ae46$0$13449$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> docsavage20@yahoo.com wrote: > Running into an issue with a Bell & Howell dual 8 projector I just got. > I find that there's an odd shadowing that runs up the right side (as > viewed facing the screen - i.e. the non-sprocket side). The same film > run through a GAF projector doesn't exhibit this, as shown on the web > page I've put up to demonstrate what I'm talking about - they're within > a frame or two of being the same frame - a shot of the sky to have a > more uniform background for comparison. > > http://home.mpinet.net/~docsavage20/shadow_example/Document.html > > Notice how far in it intrudes into the image in relation to the piece > of camera crud in the upper right. It's actually more prevalent than > what may come across from these stills. The shadow isn't constant, it > flickers a bit. However, I discovered it *doesn't* do this when > projecting in reverse. > > Any suggestions as to the cause and more importantly the cure for this? > I'm possessed of reasonable mechanical aptitude, not averse to digging > into the guts of the projector if need be. > > All input appreciated. > It looks like the lamp and/or reflector/condenser setup in the light path is maladjusted. The frame is actually showing darker along the bottom as well as the side. Possibly an old lamp with sagging filament or a cheaper bulb with misaligned filament is your problem, or maybe the condensers and/or the reflector need alignment. If you can get a flashlight to shine onto the lamp filament, you can remove the projection lens and look back through the gate and see the lamp filament completely filling the gate, with the image from the reflector merging with the filament. If it's off-center, that's your problem. Some projectors have adjustment screws to move the lamp. If yours has, run the projector with no film and adjust the screen illumination to be as even as possible. Colin D. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 339245 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Doc" References: <1155086444.611011.314920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <44d9ae46$0$13449$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Subject: Re: Shadow on side of image from B&H 8mm projector in fwd but not reverse Message-ID: <_rjCg.5789$xp2.5677@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:14:02 GMT "ColinD" wrote in message news:44d9ae46$0$13449$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... > docsavage20@yahoo.com wrote: > > Running into an issue with a Bell & Howell dual 8 projector I just got. > > I find that there's an odd shadowing that runs up the right side (as > > viewed facing the screen - i.e. the non-sprocket side). > It looks like the lamp and/or reflector/condenser setup in the light > path is maladjusted. Would this jive with the fact that it doesn't do it in reverse? Article: 339246 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Need a pair of balloon tubes From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <7584-44D6E380-213@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <5PjCg.1127972$xm3.111442@attbi_s21> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:38:42 GMT In article , maxbud12@XXXsigecom.net says... > > >I've seen those too but I need a working pair. > Bill T makes adapters for 50's... tube and adapter last ones I picked up were 16 bucks each... and even if you get a real pair of 50's your better off leaving them on the shelf and running the radio / phono with the adapters and later tubes.. John k9uwa Article: 339247 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <_4GdnWoo_a2FnkXZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com> <1155080040.369328.43760@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155094378.931715.4670@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Bolingbrook pix on binaries Message-ID: <5YjCg.16270$l95.13917@trnddc08> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 11:48:17 GMT "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1155094378.931715.4670@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > They're FAKE airchecks Brian, despite what some people say. The only > things that are real about those albums is the commercial breaks, and > of course the music. > I'll have to try and upload the portions that I have of the original recordings, to prove otherwise. Again, they're real, but they're indeed chopped and spliced -- and a rather poor job at that. It's REALLY obvious when you hear the unchopped versions of the same thing -- I have portions of the originals of Dick Biondi, Russ Knight, and Arnie Ginsburg. Then again, the chopping was done many years ago, before the benefit of computers which would allow for more seamless splicing. Does anybody know where I could find the originals in their entirety? I know they're out there, as I've heard broadcasters use them in "nostalgia" type programming. I haven't seen them on Reelradio. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com . Article: 339248 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: SC classic skyscraper with a new home Date: 9 Aug 2006 04:52:55 -0700 Message-ID: <1155124375.162538.67090@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1155096721.888577.196480@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> AuroraOldRadios wrote: > Stromberg-Carlson skyscraper radio/phono 145p. Needs a ton of veneer > work, but is mostly there. I took the chassis/speaker/tt home tonite, > will pick up cabinet in a day or 2. wow! want to sell or trade? take advantage of me. Article: 339249 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Koste" Subject: DVHRC Raffle at Kutztown Date: 9 Aug 2006 05:22:40 -0700 Message-ID: <1155126160.421785.263560@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Boy howdee! Our cabinet guru Lowell Schultz has done it again. At last night's DVHRC meeting, he demonstrated his remarkable woodworking skills by showing off the cabinet for the unusual Lafayette radio we'll be raffling off at Kutztown in September. (Who sez you can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear?) Chassis restoration is underway and will be good to go September 22-23 at Renningers. Don't get stuck at the kiddie table. If you haven't booked your reservations yet, the clock is ticking.... Details here: http://www.renningers.com/kutzradio.htm Mike Koste Gobs of Knobs Ambler, PA Article: 339250 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil S." References: <1154544753.793384.49800@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1154988558.625745.52770@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <12dffe69fon0idb@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: FA: Motorola MDA1591-3 Solid-State Bridge Rectifiers octal tube base (20 N.O.S.) Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:00:07 -0400 Message-ID: "Jim" wrote in message news:12dffe69fon0idb@corp.supernews.com... > Did you warn buyers about increased B+, need to rebias, and possible over > voltage on electrolytics? Jim, I think these things on going to blow on most amps we know. They are rated at 200V. Even the FrankenVox thing I just built has B+ in the upper 200's. These are probably useless for our crowd. Nifty lookin', though. > > prototech@usa.net wrote: > >> x-no-archive: yes >> >> These have been relisted for half off. >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=190017902392 >> >> >>>FA: 20 Motorola MDA1591-3 solid state rectifiers (plus 2 MDA1591-2 >>>rectifiers as a bonus). >>> >>>See auction listing for photo & diagram >>> >>>I was told the MDA1591-3 is rated at 200V 4 amps with a 100uS recovery >>>time. >>> >>>New old stock (from about 1969-1972) solid state replacements for >>>tube-type rectifiers used in guitar amplifiers, tube audio amps, >>>shortwave radios, ham radios, etc. >>> >>>Non-US buyers must pay by PayPal and include additional amont for >>>postage. >>> >>>NOTE: I don't have the data sheet for this, but I did verify the >>>diagram. If you happen to have an old Motorola Master Index or Master >>>Selction Guide that has the data for this, I would appreciate a scan or >>> >>>a link. Any data is helpful. >>> >>>Please e-mail with any questions. Thanks very much! >>> >>>other keywords: octal base diode Moto n.o.s. solid-state >> Article: 339251 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: 66fourdoor Has Returned From: "Weldon Nudlpudl" Message-ID: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 13:15:41 GMT According to eBay, the 66fourdoor account of Charles M Nudo is again registered: Article: 339252 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "duty-honor-country" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: 9 Aug 2006 06:55:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1155131744.475859.71260@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Weldon Nudlpudl wrote: > According to eBay, the 66fourdoor is again registered: http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=au_jZxMAAACQZXJVEYQ-aeeo49Ihepw8WMj6vob75xS36mXc24h6ww even more interesting, is your posting history, Ricky Article: 339253 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "duty-honor-country" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor = GONE (NOW YOUR TURN dB) Date: 9 Aug 2006 06:56:48 -0700 Message-ID: <1155131808.476385.181390@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: > DeserTBoB wrote: > > http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=66fourdoor&iid= > > > > FINALLY.... > > Now when do YOU ride your lame donkey into the Mexican sunset? (laughter...) riding backwards across the border, back to Mexico... Article: 339254 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: 9 Aug 2006 07:01:36 -0700 Message-ID: <1155132096.501255.214500@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> OK, let's all take a vote. How many of you give a shxt? Weldon Nudlpudl wrote: > According to eBay, the 66fourdoor account of Charles M Nudo is again registered: > > Article: 339255 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 10:25:17 -0400 Message-ID: <277c9813a7373ba42a9b6b3511b43ab6@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1155132096.501255.214500@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> I, too, don't give a shxt. Things were nice and pleasant for a while when DesertTB didn't post. I DON'T CARE ABOUT MR. NUDO! -Pete Article: 339256 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: 9 Aug 2006 07:21:42 -0700 Message-ID: <1155133302.172400.307170@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> RadioGary wrote: > OK, let's all take a vote. > > How many of you give a shxt? > I would give one, to either one of them, if they ever got within range! :-] Tox Article: 339257 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned From: "Weldon Nudlpudl" References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1155131744.475859.71260@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 14:41:59 GMT On 9-Aug-2006, "duty-honor-country" wrote: > Weldon Nudlpudl wrote: > >> According to eBay, the 66fourdoor is again registered: > > http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=au_jZxMAAACQZXJVEYQ-aeeo49Ihepw8WMj6vob75xS36mXc24h6ww > > even more interesting, is your posting history, Ricky I am naturally curious as to which Ricky you think me to be. Although I have followed things long enough to see (independently of the exhortations of DeserTBoB) that you are a scammer, I haven't followed them long enough to know all the players. Article: 339258 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned From: "Weldon Nudlpudl" References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1155133302.172400.307170@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 14:43:26 GMT On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:21:42 GMT, toxcrusadr wrote: >> OK, let's all take a vote. >> >> How many of you give a shxt? > > I would give one, to either one of them, if they ever got within range! > :-] Wear gloves, man; wear gloves. Article: 339259 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "duty-honor-country" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: 9 Aug 2006 07:49:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1155134950.132646.58570@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Weldon Nudlpudl wrote: > On 9-Aug-2006, "duty-honor-country" wrote: > > > Weldon Nudlpudl wrote: > > > >> According to eBay, the 66fourdoor is again registered: > > > > http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=au_jZxMAAACQZXJVEYQ-aeeo49Ihepw8WMj6vob75xS36mXc24h6ww > > > > even more interesting, is your posting history, Ricky > > I am naturally curious as to which Ricky you think me to be. Although I have followed things long enough to see (independently of the exhortations of DeserTBoB) that you are a scammer, I haven't followed them long enough to know all the players. hang in there, your plug is about to be pulled shortly Article: 339260 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned From: "Weldon Nudlpudl" References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1155134950.132646.58570@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 14:54:06 GMT On 9-Aug-2006, "duty-honor-country" wrote: >>>> According to eBay, the 66fourdoor is again registered: >>> >>> http://groups.google.com/groups/profile?enc_user=au_jZxMAAACQZXJVEYQ-aeeo49Ihepw8WMj6vob75xS36mXc24h6ww >>> >>> even more interesting, is your posting history, Ricky >> >> I am naturally curious as to which Ricky you think me to be. Although I have followed things long enough to see (independently of the exhortations of DeserTBoB) that you are a scammer, I haven't followed them long enough to know all the players. > > hang in there, your plug is about to be pulled shortly Well, how sad for me, then. But you've not told me which Ricky you think me to be. Article: 339261 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: <7584-44D6E380-213@storefull-3236.bay.webtv.net> <5PjCg.1127972$xm3.111442@attbi_s21> Subject: Re: Need a pair of balloon tubes Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 11:23:25 -0500 Message-ID: >>I've seen those too but I need a working pair. >> > Bill T makes adapters for 50's... tube and adapter last ones > I picked up were 16 bucks each... and even if you get a real > pair of 50's your better off leaving them on the shelf and running > the radio / phono with the adapters and later tubes.. > > John k9uwa > I don't want adapters and I don't want STs of which I have about 10 NOS. I want to look in the back and see what is supposed to be there, what the radio came with. I don't see any point in keeping tubes like that on the shelf. Keeping them for who? :-) I'll get a lot more enjoyment out of them this way than keeping them for somebody else to paw through at my estate sale. Just my own point of view. Bruce Article: 339262 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1155096721.888577.196480@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: SC classic skyscraper with a new home Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 09:29:52 -0700 Message-ID: Those are pretty amazing sets. I saw a very nice one at Great Northern Antiques a couple of years ago. I just checked their website ( http://www.gn4radios.com/ ) and it looks like they still have it. If I recall correctly, their price was something like $7K. Regards, Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 339263 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom" Subject: Boycott Gettysburg Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 12:49:08 -0400 Message-ID: <3898f$44da1205$d1cc7ca5$3619@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> Link to Gettysburg photos showing the Gettysburg battlefield before superintendent John Latschar's ego ran amok and ruined it. http://users.snip.net/~hart/ We loved Gettysburg: married there, took dozens of week-long trips, spent many thousands of dollars there, and even considered moving there. But those days are over thanks to park superintendent John Latschar. He's ruining the Gettysburg battlefield. He calls it restoration. Desecration is more descriptive. If we spent another dime we'd be supporting the destruction. We refuse. Trees are being ripped out wholesale. The deer have been slaughtered. Visiting on a November evening is an experience everyone should be able to enjoy, but he shortened the decades-old operating hours so you'll be ticketed and labeled criminals. He threw up so many one-way signs that traffic in town has become a tourist's nightmare. His nonsense goes on and on. He likes saying, "The time for comment was during the planning, not now." Well, Bozo, the public DID and continues to comment, but you ignore them. Tens of 1000s have voiced their concern, but you act as though the Gettysburg battlefield is your own private domain to use and abuse as you please. It belongs to the taxpayers, not an arrogant, government-appointed bureaucratic freeloader. Gettysburg battlefield ghost hunters have been turned away in droves because he equates them with drug users and drinkers. What a moron. Not only is the town losing a fortune toward the local economy, the park is losing thousands of watchful eyes from some of the most respectful visitors. Those with evil intent will always gain access at night as was proven by recent vandalism. Closing the park merely keeps honest folks out. John Latschar has, in effect, given vandals free rein. Attendance is lagging. He blames everything except his own bumbling. He constantly moans about never having enough money to fix rotting cannons, monuments and buildings, yet continues wasting funds on mindnumbingly senseless projects that divide the townspeople and drives others away. It's typical government ineptness. Looks like John Latschar sits around dreaming up new ways to piss people off. If he's not shooting the wildlife, cutting down 100s of acres of trees, changing the hours or screwing up traffic flow, he'll devise some other dumbass plan. Chances are he'll eventually move on to another location leaving his mess and debts behind for someone else. It wouldn't be the first time. What's worse than allowing John Latschar to inflict so much damage to the Gettysburg battlefield? Most of you sit idly by and let it happen without so much as a whimper. Talk is cheap, but a Gettysburg boycott speaks volumes. We're doing our part. Good bye Gettysburg. You were our favorite place on Earth until John Latschar raped you. Now you're just a memory. What a pity and disgrace. Cassie and Tom http://users.snip.net/~hart/ Article: 339264 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: mkemp@aol.com Subject: coin return scavenger for W1100 Date: 9 Aug 2006 11:00:54 -0700 Message-ID: <1155146454.762669.201310@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Hi Looking for a coin return scavenger for a W1100 Can anyone help Please emal mkemp@aol.com Cheers Mike Article: 339265 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: davidrobinson@postmaster.co.uk Subject: Re: FA: Fibre Needles, EMG Handmade Gramophone (phonograph) packet (not tin) Date: 9 Aug 2006 11:09:31 -0700 Message-ID: <1155146971.885420.123000@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1154693477.131200.44210@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> davidrobinson@postmaster.co.uk wrote: > An unopened packet of 24 fibre needles from the famous EMG handmade > gramophone (phonograph) company of London > > http://cgi.ebay.com/EMG-Hand-Made-Gramophone-Fibre-Needles-packet-tin_W0QQitemZ180013259653 I have an EMG sound box which I want to sell, but given that I've only got one 0.99 bid on the EMG fibre needles (above), maybe August is the wrong time, or eBay is the wrong place? Cheers, David. Article: 339266 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gene Seibel" Subject: Speaker recone Date: 9 Aug 2006 11:32:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1155148331.791197.40720@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Can anyone recommend a place to get an Atwater Kent Model 52 speaker reconed? Thanks, -- Gene Seibel KB0NNN http://pad39a.com/gene/broadcast.html Because I fly, I envy no one. Article: 339267 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: coin return scavenger for W1100 Date: 9 Aug 2006 11:40:04 -0700 Message-ID: <1155148804.007457.97430@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1155146454.762669.201310@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> mkemp@aol.com wrote: > Hi > > Looking for a coin return scavenger for a W1100 > Is that a juke box, slot machine, soda machine, pinball machine, carnival sledge hammer macho measuring machine, snack machine, weight and fortune machine, gas station bathroom French Tickler dispenser...?? Give us something to go on here, man... Tox Article: 339268 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier replacement question References: <0gmfd2h7pdt77baqksepipkkvil9h1ck7h@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 19:26:02 GMT > > Would I replace it with a single rectifier diode like a 1N4007 and a > resistor in series to drop the voltage? > I used a bridge rectifier salvaged from a PC power supply (the side connected to the powerline in the PC power supply). I disconnected both sides of the tuner's high voltage secondary, and fed it to the ~ terminals of the bridge. - to ground + to a small resistor and then to the filter cap. Think I used 50 ohms. This reduces DC flux in the transformer core, and the filter cap sees 120Hz (full wave) instead of 60Hz half wave. Article: 339269 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier replacement question Date: 9 Aug 2006 13:04:57 -0700 Message-ID: <1155153897.075512.179120@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <0gmfd2h7pdt77baqksepipkkvil9h1ck7h@4ax.com> Mike wrote: > You wouldn't happen to know where I could get a spare knob for a > reasonable price would you? I found one for 20 bucks but for that much > I could buy a whole unit! > > Mike Try Mark Oppat on this group (m oppat at flash dot net I think). He has a lot of parts. Also you could try playthings of past, oldradioparts.com I think. Both would have a good price IF they have the knob. Also Mike Koste at Gobs of Knobs, he also frequents this group. Tox Article: 339270 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1155148331.791197.40720@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Speaker recone Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 20:12:16 GMT While on the subject, are there good sources/recommendations for other speakers as well? The Philco console that's being rebuilt has a warped speaker. The cone actually isn't bad, except it looks just a little warped, and if I move it in and out it scrapes a little. So I took it to a place that specializes in reconing. I got a call back, and was told he cannot do it -- he cannot get parts for a speaker with a 1/2" voice coil. So it appears we will have a growing problem of unavailable old speaker parts. As for this speaker, any sugestions? The cone is in good shape -- no tears or rips, so no teabags needed. Just a little minor reshaping. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Gene Seibel" wrote in message news:1155148331.791197.40720@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Can anyone recommend a place to get an Atwater Kent Model 52 speaker > reconed? > > Thanks, > -- > Gene Seibel KB0NNN > http://pad39a.com/gene/broadcast.html > Because I fly, I envy no one. > Article: 339271 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1155148331.791197.40720@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Speaker recone Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:26:42 -0400 "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:AkrCg.16333$l95.6441@trnddc08... > > As for this speaker, any sugestions? The cone is in good shape -- no > tears or rips, so no teabags needed. Just a little minor reshaping. Easy fix. Been there more than once. First center the voice coil using shims. Then wet the speaker cone usin lacquer thinner, really wet. Play with the cone to reshape it, once the "warp" is taken care of, let dry overninght. Remove the shim and you should be good. Sometimes the spiders needs to be recentered. You can use acetone or lacquer thinner again to soften the glue, using shims again to center the voice coil and let the solvent evaporates overnight. Syl Article: 339272 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Boycott Gettysburg Date: 9 Aug 2006 14:10:33 -0700 Message-ID: <1155157833.674299.3280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <3898f$44da1205$d1cc7ca5$3619@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> See if you can link him to blackmail or sexual abuse. Works for Homeland Security kooks. Article: 339273 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Speaker recone References: <1155148331.791197.40720@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:16:59 -0400 Vintage Radio is good, Ken Gene Seibel wrote: > Can anyone recommend a place to get an Atwater Kent Model 52 speaker > reconed? > > Thanks, > -- > Gene Seibel KB0NNN > http://pad39a.com/gene/broadcast.html > Because I fly, I envy no one. > Article: 339274 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: 9 Aug 2006 14:28:38 -0700 Message-ID: <1155158918.045352.130650@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Weldon Nudlpudl wrote: > On Wed, 9 Aug 2006 14:21:42 GMT, toxcrusadr wrote: > > >> OK, let's all take a vote. > >> > >> How many of you give a shxt? > > > > I would give one, to either one of them, if they ever got within range! > > :-] > > Wear gloves, man; wear gloves. napalm is our FRIEND Article: 339275 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: 9 Aug 2006 14:31:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1155159081.237351.97870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: DeserTBoB wrote: > On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:50:06 GMT, "Weldon Nudlpudl" > wrote: > > >On 8-Aug-2006, "Weldon Nudlpudl" wrote: > > > >> I hope that you're right, DeserTBoB. And in that case you should take a bow. But I've seen the accounts of bad eggs come back from the dead. > > > >Since Mr Charles M. Nudo is trying to take satisfaction from Steven's throw-away lines, instead of sneering that his account is just temporarily de-registered, I'd say that DeserTBoB can take that bow! > > I'm not going to delve into cheap self-congratulation or, as Noodles > did when he falsely had mine and my wife's account trashed, brag and > boast. Rather, I'll take that bow and just consider it a job well > done. napalm, bullets and whiskey are our FRIENDS Article: 339276 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 16:35:17 -0500 From: jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? Message-ID: References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <0jRBg.9349$bo6.5139@bignews7.bellsouth.net> In article <0jRBg.9349$bo6.5139@bignews7.bellsouth.net>, "wa2mze(spamless)" <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> wrote: > Bob Armstrong wrote: > > > > And the last one I came up with is radio transmitters. If you want > > to build a 50kW+ radio/TV station, then the final amp is going to be a > > tube. AFAIK there's still no other option. > > Well the latest digital broadcast transmitters ARE solit state. They have > a number of power amps connected together via a combiner. The amps are > of different power output levels with one amp TWICE the power of the one > before it and HALF the power of the next one. So the transmitter is really > one high power D/A converter. And THATS's how they modulate it! By feeding > a digital audio signal to switch the required amplifiers on and off to > modulate the signal. The switching done at the sampling rate of the audio. > These amps are all solid state. So for a 50kw transmitter, the largest > amplifier would be 25kw output. (So maybe the LARGEST of the amps might > be tubes but all the smaller ones are solid state) There would be > 16 amps (for a 16bit digital D/A converter). These solid state digital broadcast transmitters aren't exactly the latest thing, at least in the sense of being newly developed, the Harris DX-10 hit the market about 20 years ago, making it nearly an antique. Also I don't think you have the operating principle quite right. If each power module was indeed twice the power of the one with the next lower power, then the largest power module for a 50 kW AM broadcast transmitter would have to have a "power" of 50 kW, actually somewhat more to allow for the 125% positive modulation the FCC allows, as well as the extra 5.3% power the FCC allows to compensate for the power losses in the phasor used with directional antenna systems. Ignoring those two factors, the peak power of a 100% modulated 50 kW AM signal is 200 kW. We don't actually require 200 kW worth of power modules however, since when we connect all the lower powered modules, approximately another 50 kW, in series with the highest power module of 50 kW, the total power delivered to the antenna system will quadruple, since power equals voltage squared divided by resistance, and the power modules are really voltage sources. This means that our 50 kW power module is really putting out 100 kW at the modulation peak. But this is not really how the Harris DX series transmitters actually work. If you look at the product brochure for the Harris 3DX-50 transmitter you will find that rather than using an arrangement where all of the power modules are arranged in a sequence of powers of two, they use 62 identical power modules each with a nominal 2 kW power rating, plus 6 "binary" modules operating at power levels below 2 kW in the fashion you described. With a nominal rating of 2 kW for the main power modules, this would provide for a peak power of 252 kW. The 3DX-50 is rated at 55 kW carrier and 145% modulation on positive peaks, so an actual peak power of 330 kW would be required making the actual power required from each module 5,242 peak Watts, or 2,621 Watts per module the way Harris rates them. Now there is at least one interesting question about all this that isn't easily answered by simply looking inside the cabinet. While the basic hardware appears to be the equivalent of a 12 bit RF DAC, the sampling rate is the same as the carrier frequency which means that there is a considerable amount of over sampling going on. The interesting question is, does Harris take advantage of this over sampling by doing noise shaping in the digital logic to increase the effective number of bits their RF DAC can resolve? Regards, John Byrns Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ Article: 339277 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "duty-honor-country" Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: 9 Aug 2006 14:42:51 -0700 Message-ID: <1155159770.999806.159100@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: > DeserTBoB wrote: > > On Tue, 08 Aug 2006 13:50:06 GMT, "Weldon Nudlpudl" > > wrote: > > > > >On 8-Aug-2006, "Weldon Nudlpudl" wrote: > > > > > >> I hope that you're right, DeserTBoB. And in that case you should take a bow. But I've seen the accounts of bad eggs come back from the dead. > > > > > >Since Mr Charles M. Nudo is trying to take satisfaction from Steven's throw-away lines, instead of sneering that his account is just temporarily de-registered, I'd say that DeserTBoB can take that bow! > > > > I'm not going to delve into cheap self-congratulation or, as Noodles > > did when he falsely had mine and my wife's account trashed, brag and > > boast. Rather, I'll take that bow and just consider it a job well > > done. > > napalm, bullets and whiskey are our FRIENDS so is money- money is good, money is our pal... Article: 339278 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Boycott Gettysburg Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:35:19 -0500 Message-ID: <25180-44DA5517-316@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <1155157833.674299.3280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I haven't done any ''sexual'' in a hundred years.But why boycott Gettysburg? cuhulin Article: 339279 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Sofa Slug Subject: Re: Speaker recone References: <1155148331.791197.40720@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 21:53:42 GMT Syl wrote: > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:AkrCg.16333$l95.6441@trnddc08... >> As for this speaker, any sugestions? The cone is in good shape -- no >> tears or rips, so no teabags needed. Just a little minor reshaping. > > Easy fix. Been there more than once. > > First center the voice coil using shims. Then wet the speaker cone > usin lacquer thinner, really wet. Play with the cone to reshape it, > once the "warp" is taken care of, let dry overninght. Remove the shim > and you should be good. > > Sometimes the spiders needs to be recentered. You can use acetone or lacquer > thinner again to soften the glue, using shims again to center the voice coil > and > let the solvent evaporates overnight. > > Syl > > I tried the same process - without using chemicals - by carefully applying water to the cone with a spray bottle. It seems have worked well... it's a year later and the radio is still playing fine. Article: 339280 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Magnola Talking Machine Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:49:43 -0500 Message-ID: <25179-44DA5877-1401@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: Such as my Bogalusa (Bogalusa,Louisiana,Bogalusa USA Better Brand) wind up floor model phonograph,made by Bogalusa Furniture MFG Company.The wind up motor says United Air Cleaner.Chicago,Ill.The speaker is a wooden box.The reproducer says,TOMAS. cuhulin Article: 339281 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format From: "Weldon Nudlpudl" References: <1155159770.999806.159100@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 22:03:55 GMT On 9-Aug-2006, "duty-honor-country" wrote: >> napalm, bullets and whiskey are our FRIENDS > > so is money- money is good, money is our pal... So, when *you* say that you'd do anything for a friend, what you really mean is.... Article: 339282 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: The Aggravating Propane Grill Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 16:53:10 -0500 Message-ID: <25179-44DA5946-1403@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> References: <1155088811.448616.206770@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Charcoal is best.(didn't y'all watch Dirty Jobs on tv last night?) To heck with them new fangled gadgets. cuhulin Article: 339283 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: OT- For Cat Lovers Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 18:20:28 -0400 Message-ID: <12dkntoo66e37ea@corp.supernews.com> Don't have a beverage near the keyboard! http://www.jamesshuggins.com/h/hum1/guidelines_for_cats.htm John H. Article: 339284 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: SC classic skyscraper with a new home Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 18:24:41 -0400 Message-ID: <12dko5m87kg8920@corp.supernews.com> References: <1155096721.888577.196480@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1155124375.162538.67090@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> No no I want it ! :) Eddie has more junk than me! Wait, WHERE is it though? Aurora= Alaska? John H. Article: 339285 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: 9 Aug 2006 15:40:23 -0700 Message-ID: <1155163223.015825.147830@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: Weldon Nudlpudl wrote: > On 9-Aug-2006, "duty-honor-country" wrote: > > >> napalm, bullets and whiskey are our FRIENDS > > > > so is money- money is good, money is our pal... > > So, when *you* say that you'd do anything for a friend, what you really mean is.... Why don't you all have a fucking huge pulmonary embolism and get a clue! Article: 339286 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format From: "Weldon Nudlpudl" References: <1155163223.015825.147830@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <%GtCg.231665$mF2.213663@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 22:52:43 GMT On 9-Aug-2006, "Steven" wrote: > Why don't you all have a fucking huge pulmonary embolism and get a clue! The latter just *wouldn't* follow the former, Steven. Article: 339287 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: SC classic skyscraper with a new home Date: 9 Aug 2006 16:08:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1155164924.111578.10340@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1155096721.888577.196480@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Hagstar wrote: > No no I want it ! :) Eddie has more junk than me! Wait, WHERE is it though? > Aurora= Alaska? > > John H. Aurora, CO (Denver Metro) Article: 339288 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim DeClercq Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 23:17:19 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <0jRBg.9349$bo6.5139@bignews7.bellsouth.net> Top posting! Ummm, the last time I talked to a transmitter salesman was a while ago, and most of his sales were of FM transmitters. Most people bought the tube type, simply because, for the same power level, whatever that was, the tube type sold for $3,000, and the solid state type sold for $10,000. I suspect that this has changed some, but not by very much. Jim John Byrns writes: : In article <0jRBg.9349$bo6.5139@bignews7.bellsouth.net>, : "wa2mze(spamless)" <"wa2mze(spamless)"@bellsouth.net> wrote: : > Bob Armstrong wrote: : > > : > > And the last one I came up with is radio transmitters. If you want : > > to build a 50kW+ radio/TV station, then the final amp is going to be a : > > tube. AFAIK there's still no other option. : > : > Well the latest digital broadcast transmitters ARE solit state. They have : > a number of power amps connected together via a combiner. The amps are : > of different power output levels with one amp TWICE the power of the one : > before it and HALF the power of the next one. So the transmitter is really : > one high power D/A converter. And THATS's how they modulate it! By feeding : > a digital audio signal to switch the required amplifiers on and off to : > modulate the signal. The switching done at the sampling rate of the audio. : > These amps are all solid state. So for a 50kw transmitter, the largest : > amplifier would be 25kw output. (So maybe the LARGEST of the amps might : > be tubes but all the smaller ones are solid state) There would be : > 16 amps (for a 16bit digital D/A converter). : These solid state digital broadcast transmitters aren't exactly the latest : thing, at least in the sense of being newly developed, the Harris DX-10 : hit the market about 20 years ago, making it nearly an antique. : Also I don't think you have the operating principle quite right. If each : power module was indeed twice the power of the one with the next lower : power, then the largest power module for a 50 kW AM broadcast transmitter : would have to have a "power" of 50 kW, actually somewhat more to allow for : the 125% positive modulation the FCC allows, as well as the extra 5.3% : power the FCC allows to compensate for the power losses in the phasor used : with directional antenna systems. Ignoring those two factors, the peak : power of a 100% modulated 50 kW AM signal is 200 kW. We don't actually : require 200 kW worth of power modules however, since when we connect all : the lower powered modules, approximately another 50 kW, in series with the : highest power module of 50 kW, the total power delivered to the antenna : system will quadruple, since power equals voltage squared divided by : resistance, and the power modules are really voltage sources. This means : that our 50 kW power module is really putting out 100 kW at the modulation : peak. : But this is not really how the Harris DX series transmitters actually : work. If you look at the product brochure for the Harris 3DX-50 : transmitter you will find that rather than using an arrangement where all : of the power modules are arranged in a sequence of powers of two, they use : 62 identical power modules each with a nominal 2 kW power rating, plus 6 : "binary" modules operating at power levels below 2 kW in the fashion you : described. With a nominal rating of 2 kW for the main power modules, this : would provide for a peak power of 252 kW. The 3DX-50 is rated at 55 kW : carrier and 145% modulation on positive peaks, so an actual peak power of : 330 kW would be required making the actual power required from each module : 5,242 peak Watts, or 2,621 Watts per module the way Harris rates them. : Now there is at least one interesting question about all this that isn't : easily answered by simply looking inside the cabinet. While the basic : hardware appears to be the equivalent of a 12 bit RF DAC, the sampling : rate is the same as the carrier frequency which means that there is a : considerable amount of over sampling going on. The interesting question : is, does Harris take advantage of this over sampling by doing noise : shaping in the digital logic to increase the effective number of bits : their RF DAC can resolve? : Regards, : John Byrns : Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ -- -- /"\ Jim DeClercq--jimd@panix.com--Sylvania, Ohio, USA \ / ASCII ribbon campaign | I'm a .signature virus! | X against HTML mail | Copy me into your ~/.signature| / \ and postings | to help me spread! | . Article: 339289 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 01:34:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155008766.867472.33420@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1155072259.688849.36040@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <5vqdnSRZQ4qPukTZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com> <1155082989.083334.55630@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1155095566.820887.102740@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Ken Layton wrote: > Ah my favorite----Stan Freberg-----happy birthday! > > I have the set of his radio shows and they are a scream! I even have > that special "Tip of the Freberg" collection with his radio and tv > commercials---love it. :) Unfortunately I own only one record of S.F., "The world is waiting for the sunrise" so this is my favourite. If somebody wants to send similar S.F. records as MP3 to Stan.Freberg at n78 dot de ... Thanks in advance! Kind Regards Georg Article: 339290 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ken scharf Subject: Re: A Major Tube Cache References: <1154461867.979007.286480@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154480854.443970.48840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154481756.278179.317010@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154491162.521873.263990@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 20:02:30 -0400 Mark Oppat wrote: > that eye tube was also used in post war Zenith AM-FM consoles. Its one of > the few eye tubes that can affect performance of the radio, IIRC. > Also, its one of the cheapest eye tubes. > > Mark Oppat > > > "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message > news:1154491162.521873.263990@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> Mark Oppat wrote: >>> You mean a 6AL7. A 6AL5 is a dual diode. Maybe THATS your problem! ;) >>> >>> Mark Oppat >>> >>> >> You're right, Mark. 6AL7GT. Cerebral meltdown. Anyway, I found the >> 6AL7GT and it works great in the RadioCraftsmen tuner. >> >> > > > That Eye tube was also used in top of the line Dumot TV sets. You know the ones with the indotuners that had continuous coverage >from channel 2 to 13 including the FM BCB, aircraft and 2 meter ham. They made those in both 19" and 30"(!) screen sizes. Article: 339291 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ken scharf Subject: Re: A Major Tube Cache References: <1154461867.979007.286480@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154575477.357127.4120@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <4jefcnF7me0vU1@individual.net> Message-ID: <_JuCg.11569$bD3.6729@bignews4.bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 20:08:07 -0400 John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > In article <4jefcnF7me0vU1@individual.net>, jim@jam.com says... >> >> i guess you have not seen the value of some of the horizontal sweep tubes >> like 6LQ6, 6JE6 & others. they have become highly sought after by ham & CB >> radio operators for replacements for their linier power amplifiers. > >> -- >> The Shadow Knows > > Trust Me Jack... this seller has already removed all the above tubes > and anything else of any value in that pile of stash... just look at > his history of what he has been selling lately ... toobes... all the expensive > ones... > > whats left?... BB Gun Targets at best... > > John k9uwa > Naw, my friends used to use old picture tubes for bb gun targets. OK, not as sporting (bigger targets) but more FUN when you hit one. Article: 339292 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 20:09:34 -0400 From: Stewart Schooley Subject: Re: OT- For Cat Lovers References: <12dkntoo66e37ea@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <1MqdnTm3nYyq5EfZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@bright.net> Hagstar wrote: > Don't have a beverage near the keyboard! > > http://www.jamesshuggins.com/h/hum1/guidelines_for_cats.htm > > John H. > > I put a photo on the binary page of my grandaughter learning to sew. Stewart Article: 339293 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Mike Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier replacement question Message-ID: <2pukd2phb7j3ph3miptp073bmar36tldrb@4ax.com> References: <0gmfd2h7pdt77baqksepipkkvil9h1ck7h@4ax.com> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 00:17:02 GMT On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 19:26:02 GMT, robert casey wrote: > >> >> Would I replace it with a single rectifier diode like a 1N4007 and a >> resistor in series to drop the voltage? >> > >I used a bridge rectifier salvaged from a PC power supply (the side >connected to the powerline in the PC power supply). I disconnected both >sides of the tuner's high voltage secondary, and fed it to the ~ >terminals of the bridge. - to ground + to a small resistor and then to >the filter cap. Think I used 50 ohms. This reduces DC flux in the >transformer core, and the filter cap sees 120Hz (full wave) instead of >60Hz half wave. And the higher frequncy has no detrimental effects on the rest of the circuit? Article: 339294 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: OT- For Cat Lovers Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 20:30:48 -0400 Message-ID: <12dkvi5e3bj8ode@corp.supernews.com> References: <12dkntoo66e37ea@corp.supernews.com> <1MqdnTm3nYyq5EfZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@bright.net> "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message news:1MqdnTm3nYyq5EfZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@bright.net... >> >> > I put a photo on the binary page of my grandaughter learning to sew. > Run out of dead cat with "Free Cat" sign pictures? John H. Article: 339295 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 21:24:48 -0400 From: Stewart Schooley Subject: Re: OT- For Cat Lovers References: <12dkntoo66e37ea@corp.supernews.com> <1MqdnTm3nYyq5EfZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@bright.net> <12dkvi5e3bj8ode@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: > Run out of dead cat with "Free Cat" sign pictures? > > John H. Yes I did. But there are three abandoned kittens around here that I put food out for....................fattening them up for Kitty-Kabobs. Stewart Article: 339296 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <12dkntoo66e37ea@corp.supernews.com> <1MqdnTm3nYyq5EfZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@bright.net> <12dkvi5e3bj8ode@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: OT- For Cat Lovers Message-ID: <60wCg.76531$rd3.1509135@wagner.videotron.net> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 21:29:10 -0400 "Hagstar" wrote in message news:12dkvi5e3bj8ode@corp.supernews.com... > > "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message > news:1MqdnTm3nYyq5EfZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@bright.net... > >>> >>> >> I put a photo on the binary page of my grandaughter learning to sew. >> > > > Run out of dead cat with "Free Cat" sign pictures? > > John H. Gosh John, That picture was posted maybe 2 years ago ? And was it Stewart or Jeff who did it ? I thought it was funny (shoot me)...The more politically uncorrect a joke is, the better...Most of the time... Hey, sorry I missed the rendez-vous last Saturday... Syl Article: 339297 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1155148331.791197.40720@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Speaker recone Message-ID: <60wCg.76532$rd3.1508963@wagner.videotron.net> Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 21:31:58 -0400 "Sofa Slug" wrote in message news:GPsCg.7492$FN2.526@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... > Syl wrote: >> "Gary Tayman" wrote in message >> news:AkrCg.16333$l95.6441@trnddc08... >>> As for this speaker, any sugestions? The cone is in good shape -- no >>> tears or rips, so no teabags needed. Just a little minor reshaping. >> >> Easy fix. Been there more than once. >> >> First center the voice coil using shims. Then wet the speaker cone >> usin lacquer thinner, really wet. Play with the cone to reshape it, >> once the "warp" is taken care of, let dry overninght. Remove the shim >> and you should be good. >> >> Sometimes the spiders needs to be recentered. You can use acetone or >> lacquer >> thinner again to soften the glue, using shims again to center the voice >> coil and >> let the solvent evaporates overnight. >> >> Syl > > I tried the same process - without using chemicals - by carefully > applying water to the cone with a spray bottle. It seems have worked > well... it's a year later and the radio is still playing fine. Water works, but it takes forever to dry and you can easily lose control over it's effect while thinner or acetone evaporates pretty quickly. If I suggest to let dry overnight, it is more for the glue to set than paper. But water works, have a friend who washes speakers under the faucet and let them dry a few days without ill effect... Syl Article: 339298 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:49:06 +1200 From: ColinD Subject: Re: Shadow on side of image from B&H 8mm projector in fwd but not References: <1155086444.611011.314920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <44d9ae46$0$13449$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <_rjCg.5789$xp2.5677@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <44da835a$0$13368$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Doc wrote: > "ColinD" wrote in message > news:44d9ae46$0$13449$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... >> docsavage20@yahoo.com wrote: >>> Running into an issue with a Bell & Howell dual 8 projector I just got. >>> I find that there's an odd shadowing that runs up the right side (as >>> viewed facing the screen - i.e. the non-sprocket side). > >> It looks like the lamp and/or reflector/condenser setup in the light >> path is maladjusted. > > Would this jive with the fact that it doesn't do it in reverse? > > If the framing is different when in reverse, then yes it could. For an 8mm gate, the shadowed area is a millimeter or less, and if the framing has to shift that much when in reverse, it still points to light path misalignment. If the framing doesn't shift, then maybe there's another answer. Colin D. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 339299 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) Subject: Beginning of BC-312 BC-342 nameplate page. Date: 10 Aug 2006 01:58:16 GMT Message-ID: In reference to my posting of yesterday, I have put up a first crude cut of a page showing BC-312 and BC-342 name plates. Eventually I will be adding the ones I am getting in email, as well as adding BC-314 and BC-344 plates. This first cut is from the photos I have of my units and a couple of ebay units. Have a look at: http://novatech-instr.com/bc312np/np.html Enjoy. Steve. -- Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Article: 339300 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: OT- For Cat Lovers Date: Wed, 9 Aug 2006 22:19:14 -0400 Message-ID: <12dl5tf878a5j7f@corp.supernews.com> References: <12dkntoo66e37ea@corp.supernews.com> <1MqdnTm3nYyq5EfZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@bright.net> <12dkvi5e3bj8ode@corp.supernews.com> <60wCg.76531$rd3.1509135@wagner.videotron.net> "Syl" wrote in message news:60wCg.76531$rd3.1509135@wagner.videotron.net... > > > Gosh John, That picture was posted maybe 2 years ago ? I'll forget and forgive around 2150. John H. Article: 339301 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Engineer" Subject: Re: Odd old OPT Date: 9 Aug 2006 19:24:04 -0700 Message-ID: <1155176644.152970.262170@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1155006110.383183.228660@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Mark Oppat wrote: > I think this was "what he had" type of OPT. wonder what it was. You > figured the windings by applying a known voltage and measuring the output, > right? Not by measuring the resistances. > > Mark Oppat > Hi, Mark, Exactly. I just ran the P-P primary up on a variac, measured a volt or two on the sec. and calculated the ratio. To answer another reply, I'm certain this is an OPT, not some kind of input device, but I'm d****d if I know for what tubes, or what I could use it for. Cheers, Roger Article: 339302 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: A Major Tube Cache References: <1154461867.979007.286480@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154575477.357127.4120@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <4jefcnF7me0vU1@individual.net> <_JuCg.11569$bD3.6729@bignews4.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <7oxCg.5263$vj1.5048@bignews5.bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 22:06:59 -0500 ken scharf wrote: > John Goller, k9uwa wrote: >> In article <4jefcnF7me0vU1@individual.net>, jim@jam.com says... >>> i guess you have not seen the value of some of the horizontal sweep tubes >>> like 6LQ6, 6JE6 & others. they have become highly sought after by ham & CB >>> radio operators for replacements for their linier power amplifiers. >> >>> -- >>> The Shadow Knows >> Trust Me Jack... this seller has already removed all the above tubes >> and anything else of any value in that pile of stash... just look at >> his history of what he has been selling lately ... toobes... all the expensive >> ones... >> >> whats left?... BB Gun Targets at best... >> >> John k9uwa >> > Naw, my friends used to use old picture tubes for bb gun targets. > OK, not as sporting (bigger targets) but more FUN when you hit one. > In tech school, we used to line up all the (dead) crt's from donated TV's behind the school and have at them with rocks...'teacher sanctioned' event. jak Article: 339303 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: coin return scavenger for W1100 References: <1155146454.762669.201310@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155148804.007457.97430@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:38:14 GMT toxcrusadr wrote: > mkemp@aol.com wrote: > >>Hi >> >>Looking for a coin return scavenger for a W1100 >> > > Give us something to go on here, man... I'll assume it's a Wurlitzer jukebox. http://www.retroaudiolab.com/w1100.htm Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 339304 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "cmdr buzz corey" Subject: Re: Speaker recone Date: 9 Aug 2006 20:41:27 -0700 Message-ID: <1155181287.469332.91950@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1155148331.791197.40720@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Gary Tayman wrote: > While on the subject, are there good sources/recommendations for other > speakers as well? > > The Philco console that's being rebuilt has a warped speaker. The cone > actually isn't bad, except it looks just a little warped, and if I move it > in and out it scrapes a little. So I took it to a place that specializes in > reconing. I got a call back, and was told he cannot do it -- he cannot get > parts for a speaker with a 1/2" voice coil. So it appears we will have a > growing problem of unavailable old speaker parts. > > As for this speaker, any sugestions? The cone is in good shape -- no tears > or rips, so no teabags needed. Just a little minor reshaping. > Hard to find a cone with less than a one inch vc opening. It is easy to cut away the cone from the voice coil, leaving enoughon the vc to overlap the 1 inch hole in the new cone, install the new cone and glue the two together. I have done that many times. Article: 339305 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: OT- For Cat Lovers References: <12dkntoo66e37ea@corp.supernews.com> <1MqdnTm3nYyq5EfZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@bright.net> <12dkvi5e3bj8ode@corp.supernews.com> <60wCg.76531$rd3.1509135@wagner.videotron.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:42:09 GMT Syl wrote: > Gosh John, That picture was posted maybe 2 years ago ? And was > it Stewart or Jeff who did it ? That was not me that time. I posted the "Special Olympics" picture. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 339306 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44DAABF6.8A2A29A5@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Applications where tubes are still king?? References: <1154980972.462384.103210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <0jRBg.9349$bo6.5139@bignews7.bellsouth.net> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:48:21 GMT Jim DeClercq wrote: > > Top posting! > > Ummm, the last time I talked to a transmitter salesman was a while ago, > and most of his sales were of FM transmitters. Most people bought the tube > type, simply because, for the same power level, whatever that was, the > tube type sold for $3,000, and the solid state type sold for $10,000. I > suspect that this has changed some, but not by very much. > > Jim The operating costs for the tube version more than offsets the difference in purchase price, and the smaller number of tube transmitters has narrowed the gap considerably. You use less electricity for a solid state transmitter, that means less is used for air conditioning. The transmitter is smaller, and requires less maintenance over its life. That maintenance can be done by less skilled staff, and it is rare that the transmitter would go down completely, reducing the number of make goods on advertising. You can continue to run the transmitter with a single bad output module while it is repair locally, or at the factory. If you need a backup generator and switch gear it will be cheaper, as well. Thales and Harris are the only two manufacturers I'm still familiar with. Thales bought Comark, which made the last big transmitter I worked on. All solid state, except the Klystrons, and it was delivered a week before the Klystrodes hit the market. It uses three 65 KW Klystrons, two Visual, and one Aural. It cost over $45,000 to rebuild one of the Klystrons in 1990. http://www.broadcast.harris.com/ Has information on all of their current transmitters. http://www.thales-bm.com/ Their website is a real mess. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 339307 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44DAAD02.F4012F05@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier replacement question References: <0gmfd2h7pdt77baqksepipkkvil9h1ck7h@4ax.com> <2pukd2phb7j3ph3miptp073bmar36tldrb@4ax.com> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:52:48 GMT Mike wrote: > > On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 19:26:02 GMT, robert casey > wrote: > > > > >> > >> Would I replace it with a single rectifier diode like a 1N4007 and a > >> resistor in series to drop the voltage? > >> > > > >I used a bridge rectifier salvaged from a PC power supply (the side > >connected to the powerline in the PC power supply). I disconnected both > >sides of the tuner's high voltage secondary, and fed it to the ~ > >terminals of the bridge. - to ground + to a small resistor and then to > >the filter cap. Think I used 50 ohms. This reduces DC flux in the > >transformer core, and the filter cap sees 120Hz (full wave) instead of > >60Hz half wave. > > And the higher frequncy has no detrimental effects on the rest of the > circuit? No. In fact, it lowers the ripple current and voltage in the power supply. Just don't try in in a transformerless chassis, because the chassis will be well above ground no matter which way you plug the radio into the outlet. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 339308 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: DVHRC Raffle at Kutztown From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1155126160.421785.263560@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:58:27 GMT In article <1155126160.421785.263560@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, michael.koste@zurichna.com says... > > >Boy howdee! Our cabinet guru Lowell Schultz has done it again. At last >Mike Koste >Gobs of Knobs >Ambler, PA > be sure and tell Lowell that John and Jean said hello... John k9uwa Article: 339309 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: robert casey Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier replacement question References: <0gmfd2h7pdt77baqksepipkkvil9h1ck7h@4ax.com> <2pukd2phb7j3ph3miptp073bmar36tldrb@4ax.com> <44DAAD02.F4012F05@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 04:24:02 GMT > > No. In fact, it lowers the ripple current and voltage in the power > supply. Just don't try in in a transformerless chassis, because the > chassis will be well above ground no matter which way you plug the radio > into the outlet. > > I've seen bridge rectifiers used in hot chassis solid state TV sets. You must use an isolation transformer when serving those! Article: 339310 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 09 Aug 2006 23:38:20 -0500 From: jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier replacement question Message-ID: References: <0gmfd2h7pdt77baqksepipkkvil9h1ck7h@4ax.com> <2pukd2phb7j3ph3miptp073bmar36tldrb@4ax.com> <44DAAD02.F4012F05@earthlink.net> In article , robert casey wrote: > > > > No. In fact, it lowers the ripple current and voltage in the power > > supply. Just don't try in in a transformerless chassis, because the > > chassis will be well above ground no matter which way you plug the radio > > into the outlet. > > > > > > I've seen bridge rectifiers used in hot chassis solid state TV sets. > You must use an isolation transformer when serving those! And some old tube Television sets used full wave selenium rectifier voltage doublers directly off the line, which also left the chassis hot no matter which way the set was plugged in. Regards, John Byrns Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ Article: 339311 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Land Subject: Re: Speaker recone Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 05:08:07 -0000 Message-ID: References: <1155148331.791197.40720@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <60wCg.76532$rd3.1508963@wagner.videotron.net> "Syl" wrote in news:60wCg.76532$rd3.1508963 @wagner.videotron.net: > have a friend who washes speakers under the faucet <<>>> Article: 339312 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Speaker recone Date: 9 Aug 2006 23:25:32 -0700 Message-ID: <1155191132.037862.20400@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1155148331.791197.40720@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Jim Land (NO SPAM) wrote: > "Syl" wrote in news:60wCg.76532$rd3.1508963 > @wagner.videotron.net: > > > have a friend who washes speakers under the faucet > > <<>>> No, if Syl hasn't called the friend's sanity or wisdom into frame, perhaps he should let us in on the rest of the tale. Article: 339313 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: coin return scavenger for W1100 Date: 9 Aug 2006 23:27:27 -0700 Message-ID: <1155191247.810174.233740@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1155146454.762669.201310@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > toxcrusadr wrote: > > mkemp@aol.com wrote: > > > >>Hi > >> > >>Looking for a coin return scavenger for a W1100 > >> > > > > Give us something to go on here, man... > > I'll assume it's a Wurlitzer jukebox. > http://www.retroaudiolab.com/w1100.htm Well, that was the one before Westinghouse (just not alphabetically). Article: 339314 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44DAEFB3.30171DC6@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier replacement question References: <0gmfd2h7pdt77baqksepipkkvil9h1ck7h@4ax.com> <2pukd2phb7j3ph3miptp073bmar36tldrb@4ax.com> <44DAAD02.F4012F05@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:37:28 GMT John Byrns wrote: > > In article , robert > casey wrote: > > > > > > > No. In fact, it lowers the ripple current and voltage in the power > > > supply. Just don't try in in a transformerless chassis, because the > > > chassis will be well above ground no matter which way you plug the radio > > > into the outlet. > > > > > > > > > > I've seen bridge rectifiers used in hot chassis solid state TV sets. > > You must use an isolation transformer when serving those! > > And some old tube Television sets used full wave selenium rectifier > voltage doublers directly off the line, which also left the chassis hot no > matter which way the set was plugged in. > > Regards, > > John Byrns > > Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ Yes, but those were designed with no exposed metal to get shocked or killed. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 339315 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "george conklin" References: <25179-44DA5877-1401@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Magnola Talking Machine Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:06:22 GMT wrote in message news:25179-44DA5877-1401@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net... > Such as my Bogalusa (Bogalusa,Louisiana,Bogalusa USA Better Brand) wind > up floor model phonograph,made by Bogalusa Furniture MFG Company.The > wind up motor says United Air Cleaner.Chicago,Ill.The speaker is a > wooden box.The reproducer says,TOMAS. > cuhulin > Yes, the furniture companies put together parts from all over and marketed their units. They have almost no value today to a collector. Article: 339316 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "duty-honor-country" Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: 10 Aug 2006 04:09:46 -0700 Message-ID: <1155208186.090825.291500@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: > Weldon Nudlpudl wrote: > > On 9-Aug-2006, "duty-honor-country" wrote: > > > > >> napalm, bullets and whiskey are our FRIENDS > > > > > > so is money- money is good, money is our pal... > > > > So, when *you* say that you'd do anything for a friend, what you really mean is.... > > Why don't you all have a fucking huge pulmonary embolism and get a clue! Steven- check your email- simply call Pittsburgh welfare dept. and report the guy for double dipping on welfare checks, while he wife works- I'll send you the phone number Article: 339317 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "duty-honor-country" Subject: FA: huge lot of (1000) 78rpm shellac records- old 1900-1955 era Date: 10 Aug 2006 04:13:20 -0700 Message-ID: <1155208400.426097.310060@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&item=140016996666&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 Article: 339318 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: 66fourdoor = GONE (NOW YOUR TURN dB) Message-ID: References: <1155018543.733349.241020@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 07:55:39 -0400 On 7 Aug 2006 23:29:03 -0700, "Steven" wrote: > >DeserTBoB wrote: >> http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=66fourdoor&iid= >> >> FINALLY.... > >Now when do YOU ride your lame donkey into the Mexican sunset? When do they load your fat butt into that dump truck and haul you to the nut house? __________________________________________________________ Have you heard about the new arcade game? It's called 'Whack-a-nuck"! Article: 339319 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format From: "Weldon Nudlpudl" References: <1155208186.090825.291500@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <9iFCg.233416$mF2.6480@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 12:05:25 GMT On 10-Aug-2006, "duty-honor-country" wrote: > Steven- check your email- simply call Pittsburgh welfare dept. and > report the guy for double dipping on welfare checks, while he wife > works- I'll send you the phone number Well, that wouldn't technically be double-dipping; it would be simple welfare fraud. In any event, I assure you that I'm not (and have never been) engaged in either. And I don't think that Steven wants to be viewed as your ally, Mr Nudo. His attitude is captured by the curse "A pox on both your houses!" Article: 339320 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Zenith Model H511 tube radio, please help with identifying value References: <44DAAFB7.2007E345@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:07:42 -0400 Where is it used in the circuit, could be a 22 pf. Ken Michael A. Terrell wrote: > cobsdb@hotmail.com wrote: > >>I am repairing a Zenith Model H511 tube radio 1951 model. >> >>It has a brown disk ceramic capacitor that has the numbers >> >>22 (dot) 5 in blue letters. < that is a (dot) not a (period) >> >>There are not other markings. >> >>I have looked at a few capacitor numbering data sheets >>on the web but I am still not sure about the value. >> >>Is it a 2.2 microfarad ? >> >>Any help would be greatly appreciated >> >>Thank You > > > > No, that was a Zenith part number. Ask for help at: > news:rec.antiques.radio+phono > > Article: 339321 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "bicycle" Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: 10 Aug 2006 05:45:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1155213900.482942.34240@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: duty-honor-country wrote: > Steven wrote: > > Weldon Nudlpudl wrote: > > > On 9-Aug-2006, "duty-honor-country" wrote: > > > > > > >> napalm, bullets and whiskey are our FRIENDS > > > > > > > > so is money- money is good, money is our pal... > > > > > > So, when *you* say that you'd do anything for a friend, what you really mean is.... > > > > Why don't you all have a fucking huge pulmonary embolism and get a clue! > > > Steven- check your email- simply call Pittsburgh welfare dept. and > report the guy for double dipping on welfare checks, while he wife > works- I'll send you the phone number What's "while he wife"? Why doesn't Charlie call them himself? Why is he so chickenshit to make the call if he's so sure of his claim? Article: 339322 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AB9GO" Subject: Re: FA: huge lot of (1000) 78rpm shellac records- old 1900-1955 era Date: 10 Aug 2006 05:46:32 -0700 Message-ID: <1155213992.788601.305140@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1155208400.426097.310060@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> He's BACK! duty-honor-country wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=004&item=140016996666&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 Article: 339323 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "bicycle" Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: 10 Aug 2006 06:03:17 -0700 Message-ID: <1155214997.278364.214810@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: Weldon Nudlpudl wrote: > On 10-Aug-2006, "duty-honor-country" wrote: > > > Steven- check your email- simply call Pittsburgh welfare dept. and > > report the guy for double dipping on welfare checks, while he wife > > works- I'll send you the phone number > > Well, that wouldn't technically be double-dipping; it would be simple welfare fraud. In any event, I assure you that I'm not (and have never been) engaged in either. Charlie Nudo has this theory that you are me. He also has this theory that I own 2 homes and collect welfare from two different addresses while my wife works. At the same time he claims she is working, he also claims she was fired. How does that work? According to Charlie Nudo, I own 2 homes and collect welfare checks at each address. According to Charlie Nudo I also post from 2 different ISP's in different locations traveling back and forth between them in mere minutes. According to Charlie Nudo I hacked Penn State computers and post through them too. Is it becoming clear that Charlie Nudo has issues? > > And I don't think that Steven wants to be viewed as your ally, Mr Nudo. His attitude is captured by the curse "A pox on both your houses!" Article: 339324 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Speaker recone Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 07:34:57 -0600 Message-ID: <4181-44DB3601-144@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> References: <1155191132.037862.20400@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> I can still recone odd size and oval speakers and replace voice coils and spiders . If you regulars would just add me to your list by wrighting it down or entering it into your computer someone may benefit Ken Article: 339325 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "CAINE" Subject: Re: 66FOURDOOR FRAUD ALERT! Date: 10 Aug 2006 06:54:56 -0700 Message-ID: <1155218096.660837.127790@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Phil B wrote: > Jeez. I have to agree. 99.8% positive is in the stratosphere on ebay for > such an active seller. This DesertBob thing doesn't compute. I have to say, > I feel a bit sorry for Charlie Nudo (or whoever 664door is) having to put up > with these perennial attacks. I wonder if DesertBob is really just a > computer programmed to spit out this stuff periodically? > > Phil B > > "William R. Walsh" > wrote in message news:F9xAg.874383$084.494186@attbi_s22... > > Hi! > > > >> Now you can take action against this latest "Cholly Noodles'" scam > >> yourself! Simply go to this auction: > > > > Two negative feedbacks since 2001? 99.8% positive feedback? Listings that > > (at least) look to be well thought out? > > > > Sorry, but I really do fail to see the problem here. > > > > William > > > > good post- and what they conveniently leave out is this BICYCLE has had one account suspended on Ebay DESERTBOB has had 2 accounts suspended on Ebay all within the last 8 months. For auction harassment, driving bidders away, and posting private contact info- and they keep right on doing it Article: 339326 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 06:37:16 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Weldon Nudlpudl wrote: > According to eBay, the 66fourdoor account of Charles M Nudo is again registered: > > Gentlemen, There are literally hundreds, if not thousands of individuals selling items of dubious virtue on eBay. I seriously doubt that ranting in a usenet newsgroup is going to make many of them go away. The vast majority of people reading this newsgroup are intelligent enough to read a thread and evauluate its meaning. 1/100th of the postings on the subject of Mr. Nudo (whoever he is)and his alleged crimes against humanity (whatever they are) would have been more than enough to allow the readers of this group to do that. RAR+P is a discussion group pertaining to the enjoyment of vintage radios. It is not a group for the discussion of allegedly fraudulent eBay sellers. If a reader has discovered a fraudulent seller of RADIO related merchandise on eBay, a SINGLE posting about that is appropriate and welcome here. Endless rants and obsessive crusades about eBay fraud are not. If you wish to discuss the issues surrounding Mr. Nudo's continued presence on eBay, please do so in one of the following ebay-related groups: alt.marketing.online.ebay alt.marketplace.online.ebay uk.people.consumers.ebay Enough with the "Charlie Nudo" crap in RAR+P. I don't give a shit! -Scott Article: 339327 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "CAINE" Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: 10 Aug 2006 06:58:42 -0700 Message-ID: <1155218322.563206.151410@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: duty-honor-country wrote: > anyone needing replacement drive motors, alignment tapes, or > replacement pads for 8-track format and machines- see auctions on Ebay > by 66FOURDOOR > > 1463 positive feedbacks- selling history of 5 years- satisfaction > guaranteed or your money back ! . Article: 339328 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave W" Subject: Re: Shadow on side of image from B&H 8mm projector in fwd but not reverse Date: 10 Aug 2006 07:03:20 -0700 Message-ID: <1155218600.806281.183920@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1155086444.611011.314920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> My theory is that the rotating shutter that blocks the light between frames when the film moves is phased a bit wrongly, and doesn't show in reverse owing to slop in its drive mechanism acting in the opposite direction (toothed belt perhaps?). Dave W Article: 339329 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "CAINE" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: 10 Aug 2006 07:04:45 -0700 Message-ID: <1155218685.419977.314240@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Scott W. Harvey wrote: > Weldon Nudlpudl wrote: > > According to eBay, the 66fourdoor account of Charles M Nudo is again registered: > > > > > > Gentlemen, > > There are literally hundreds, if not thousands of individuals selling > items of dubious virtue on eBay. I seriously doubt that ranting in a > usenet newsgroup is going to make many of them go away. > > The vast majority of people reading this newsgroup are intelligent > enough to read a thread and evauluate its meaning. 1/100th of the > postings on the subject of Mr. Nudo (whoever he is)and his alleged > crimes against humanity (whatever they are) would have been more than > enough to allow the readers of this group to do that. > > RAR+P is a discussion group pertaining to the enjoyment of vintage > radios. It is not a group for the discussion of allegedly fraudulent > eBay sellers. If a reader has discovered a fraudulent seller of RADIO > related merchandise on eBay, a SINGLE posting about that is appropriate > and welcome here. Endless rants and obsessive crusades about eBay fraud > are not. > > If you wish to discuss the issues surrounding Mr. Nudo's continued > presence on eBay, please do so in one of the following ebay-related groups: > > alt.marketing.online.ebay > alt.marketplace.online.ebay > uk.people.consumers.ebay > > Enough with the "Charlie Nudo" crap in RAR+P. I don't give a shit! > > -Scott well said keep in mind, the (2) major proponents of this "crusade", are DeserTBob and Bicycle DesertBob has had (2) of his own accounts permanently banned from Ebay during the last year, for auction harassment, driving bidders from Ebay, and posting contact info on Google Bicycle has had (1) account suspended these 2 guys have nothing better to do all day- they are unemployed, unemployable, and don't have the skill to sell anything on ebay without a fight. DeserTBob has already bought (8) audio tapes on Ebay for a penny each, just to leave the poor seller (8) negative feedbacks. so your assessment is correct- they are obsessed beyond the pale Article: 339330 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1155191132.037862.20400@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <4181-44DB3601-144@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Speaker recone Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:08:56 -0400 "Ken G." wrote in message news:4181-44DB3601-144@storefull-3234.bay.webtv.net... >I can still recone odd size and oval speakers and replace voice coils > and spiders . > > If you regulars would just add me to your list by wrighting it down or > entering it into your computer someone may benefit > > Ken Ken, Did you get the small cones as you said you were. The offer still stands for a free webpage. Syl Article: 339331 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "bicycle" Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: 10 Aug 2006 07:20:41 -0700 Message-ID: <1155219641.608058.103460@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: CAINE wrote: > duty-honor-country wrote: > > anyone needing replacement drive motors, alignment tapes, or > > replacement pads for 8-track format and machines- see auctions on Ebay > > by 66FOURDOOR > > > > 1463 positive feedbacks- selling history of 5 years- satisfaction > > guaranteed or your money back ! > > Don't forget the Ebay account you lost for fraud. Article: 339332 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "bicycle" Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: 10 Aug 2006 07:20:45 -0700 Message-ID: <1155219644.857138.51030@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: CAINE wrote: > duty-honor-country wrote: > > anyone needing replacement drive motors, alignment tapes, or > > replacement pads for 8-track format and machines- see auctions on Ebay > > by 66FOURDOOR > > > > 1463 positive feedbacks- selling history of 5 years- satisfaction > > guaranteed or your money back ! > > Don't forget the Ebay account you lost for fraud. Article: 339333 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: bicyclingg@yahoo.com Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: 10 Aug 2006 07:28:07 -0700 Message-ID: <1155220087.043091.97340@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> CAINE wrote: > Scott W. Harvey wrote: > > Weldon Nudlpudl wrote: > > > According to eBay, the 66fourdoor account of Charles M Nudo is again registered: > > > > > > > > > > Gentlemen, > > > > There are literally hundreds, if not thousands of individuals selling > > items of dubious virtue on eBay. I seriously doubt that ranting in a > > usenet newsgroup is going to make many of them go away. > > > > The vast majority of people reading this newsgroup are intelligent > > enough to read a thread and evauluate its meaning. 1/100th of the > > postings on the subject of Mr. Nudo (whoever he is)and his alleged > > crimes against humanity (whatever they are) would have been more than > > enough to allow the readers of this group to do that. > > > > RAR+P is a discussion group pertaining to the enjoyment of vintage > > radios. It is not a group for the discussion of allegedly fraudulent > > eBay sellers. If a reader has discovered a fraudulent seller of RADIO > > related merchandise on eBay, a SINGLE posting about that is appropriate > > and welcome here. Endless rants and obsessive crusades about eBay fraud > > are not. > > > > If you wish to discuss the issues surrounding Mr. Nudo's continued > > presence on eBay, please do so in one of the following ebay-related groups: > > > > alt.marketing.online.ebay > > alt.marketplace.online.ebay > > uk.people.consumers.ebay > > > > Enough with the "Charlie Nudo" crap in RAR+P. I don't give a shit! > > > > -Scott > > well said > > keep in mind, the (2) major proponents of this "crusade", are DeserTBob > and Bicycle Crusade? You brought me into this by claiming Weldon was me. Keep that in mind. > > DesertBob has had (2) of his own accounts permanently banned from Ebay > during the last year, for auction harassment, driving bidders from > Ebay, and posting contact info on Google > > Bicycle has had (1) account suspended Post the name of the account then, or are you making up stories? > these 2 guys have nothing better to do all day- they are unemployed, > unemployable, and don't have the skill to sell anything on ebay without > a fight. DeserTBob has already bought (8) audio tapes on Ebay for a > penny each, just to leave the poor seller (8) negative feedbacks. Um, don't think so, I'm at work now, why aren't you? Why are you now posting as CAINE, Charlie? How many addys do you have? > so your assessment is correct- they are obsessed beyond the pale Why did you bring my name up in here then? Hmmm? Article: 339334 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bignose Bernie from 14313" References: <1155157833.674299.3280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <25180-44DA5517-316@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Boycott Gettysburg Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:22:00 -0400 Message-ID: <198bd$44db4350$d1cc7b2f$15602@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> wrote in message news:25180-44DA5517-316@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net... > I haven't done any ''sexual'' in a hundred years.But why boycott > Gettysburg? > cuhulin > ...because some fruitcake retired with too much money and/or time on their hands say so. Good enuf for me! Cucukoo..!! Cucukoo..!! Cucukoo..!! Cucukoo..!! Article: 339335 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bignose Bernie from 14313" References: <1155208400.426097.310060@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: huge lot of (1000) 78rpm shellac records- old 1900-1955 era Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:26:24 -0400 Message-ID: Why does he post a reply to every feedback comment? Is it some new method of CYA'ing for online sales via e-screw? Article: 339336 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bignose Bernie from 14313" References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:32:09 -0400 Message-ID: I agree. Hopefully they will discover that great newsgroup "Rec.Radio.Amateur.Policy" and join in with the never-ending flame war that's been going on in there for close to a year. I have been told that RRAP is now considered to be the new "14.313 mHz" (re: KV4FZ and his infamous net wars of the 70's and 80's) inheritor. Hey DeserTBob and Bicycle..... check out that NG referenced above! Trust me, you WILL have more fun than a three bulls running wild thru a Mikasa crystal shop in that newsgroup !!!!!! Article: 339337 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Fred C" Subject: Orepheus Radio Battery Set Message-ID: <44db4dc8@news.meer.net> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:16:23 -0400 Need info on an Orpheus 5 tube battery radio (name written on front panel). This radio has 3 main knobs which are tuning1, tuning 2, and sensitivity. Only know of 3 of these in existance. One of us has has traced the circuit. The audio is resistance coupled using 3 stages to get decent gain. The RF appears to be regen. The center dial is surrounded by a lyre. Made in both table model and desk model. Tubes are 201A. I have one ad for the Orpheus radios showing models A, C, H, very different >from the ones we have. This radio is thought to have been made by Roth-Downs, although the only marking on the radio itself is Orpheus. Any help will be much appreciated. Article: 339338 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "CAINE" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: 10 Aug 2006 08:36:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1155224161.038123.139010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Bignose Bernie from 14313 wrote: > I agree. Hopefully they will discover that great > newsgroup "Rec.Radio.Amateur.Policy" and join > in with the never-ending flame war that's been > going on in there for close to a year. > > I have been told that RRAP is now considered to be > the new "14.313 mHz" (re: KV4FZ and his infamous > net wars of the 70's and 80's) inheritor. > > Hey DeserTBob and Bicycle..... check out that NG referenced above! > Trust me, you WILL have more fun than a three bulls running > wild thru a Mikasa crystal shop in that newsgroup !!!!!! (laughter...) they do belong there ! Article: 339339 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: FA: huge lot of (1000) 78rpm shellac records- old 1900-1955 era Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 08:44:23 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1155208587.493713.100000@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 10 Aug 2006 04:16:27 -0700, "shirked duty-dishonor-cowardice" aka Charles M. Nudo Jr. of Drums, PA (who never served a day of his worthless life in the military) spamming from wrote: >http://cgi.ebay DO NOT BUY FROM THIS OFF-TOPIC SPAMMER AND DIRTBAG SELLER! This spammer and eBay fraudster, Charlie Nudo of Drums, PA, aka 66fourdoor on eBay, is yet another annoying eBay spammer, as well as an eBay cheat and crook. He's obviously under pressure now due to my efforts, as he's sending my ISP and othe net ops messages threatening legal action if they don't shut me up...ain't gonna happen! He just weaseled his account back online after yet another suspension...must be a reason! Don't be beguiled by his "great feedback," either...take a look at his attempts at extortion and his "buried" bad feedback at: http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=66fourdoor&Dirn=Received+by Also, take a look at his retaliatory bad feedback left for others at: http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=66fourdoor&Dirn=Left+by This guy's a proven nut case and crook. He defrauded me twice under two different eBay account names, one having been shut down since then for fraud. Do Usenet a favor...turn this creep in for spam today at: spam@ebay.com (account 66fourdoor) groups-abuse@google.com (use email account he used in his spam) abuse@epix.net (main account POP3 address thenudofamily@epix.net) ...and do NOT fall victim to his scam auctions! Article: 339340 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <44DAAFB7.2007E345@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Zenith Model H511 tube radio, please help with identifying value of ceramic capacitor Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 12:16:46 -0400 Message-ID: no reason to change one, I have never had a bad one of those... its a disc cap. Mark Oppat "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44DAAFB7.2007E345@earthlink.net... > cobsdb@hotmail.com wrote: > > > > I am repairing a Zenith Model H511 tube radio 1951 model. > > > > It has a brown disk ceramic capacitor that has the numbers > > > > 22 (dot) 5 in blue letters. < that is a (dot) not a (period) > > > > There are not other markings. > > > > I have looked at a few capacitor numbering data sheets > > on the web but I am still not sure about the value. > > > > Is it a 2.2 microfarad ? > > > > Any help would be greatly appreciated > > > > Thank You > > > No, that was a Zenith part number. Ask for help at: > news:rec.antiques.radio+phono > > > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida > Article: 339341 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" Subject: KUTZTOWN SEPT 22-23 who's going? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 12:21:42 -0400 Message-ID: is it too early to ask? I plan on being there with a full load of capacitors, repro dials, knobs, decals and other vital parts. They are expanding into the second pavilion now... its growing and its right in the heart of antique radio country. Mark Oppat Article: 339342 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:04:32 -0700 Message-ID: <07mmd25v5c15atknurm6jc981efeandnk7@4ax.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1155224161.038123.139010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 10 Aug 2006 08:36:01 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: >(laughter...) they do belong there ! ...and you belong in the nuthouse in Wilkes-Barre. Enjoy your open account...for awhile. I just got off the phone with eBay. They're "reevaluating" their position. Article: 339343 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: huge lot of (1000) 78rpm shellac records- old 1900-1955 era Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:06:51 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1155208400.426097.310060@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:26:24 -0400, "Bignose Bernie from 14313" wrote: > >Why does he post a reply to every feedback comment? >Is it some new method of CYA'ing for online sales via e-screw? Because he's a moron. That's not what that feature is for, but he uses it as sort of an "accounting" system. Unfortunately for him, the IRS can now detect exactly what he sold and when without resorting to subpoenaing eBay's records, which they'll do anyway. His "comments" simply provide "probable cause.". Article: 339344 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 66FOURDOOR FRAUD ALERT! Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:12:06 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1155218096.660837.127790@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 10 Aug 2006 06:54:56 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: > >Phil B wrote: >> Jeez. I have to agree. 99.8% positive is in the stratosphere on ebay for >> such an active seller. This DesertBob thing doesn't compute. That's because you're not researching this issue properly. Charlie Nudo has, for five years, done nothing if not manipulate eBay's feedback system with "freebies" and extortion. Look at his REAL feedback over on Toolhaus.org. You may recant. >> I have to say, >> I feel a bit sorry for Charlie Nudo (or whoever 664door is) having to put up >> with these perennial attacks. I wonder if DesertBob is really just a >> computer programmed to spit out this stuff periodically? You're obviously out of the loop. ...and now, to slice and dice Noodles: >>BICYCLE has had one account suspended on Ebay Lie. >DESERTBOB has had 2 accounts suspended on Ebay He had mine and my wife's accounts suspended with his manipulation and lying techniques. >all within the last 8 months. ...all caused by Charlie Nudo. EBay even admits this. >For auction harassment, driving bidders away, and posting private >contact info- ...of which you did the same thing, and more...such as shill and shadow bidding and leaving feedback for yourself, which eBay FINALLY woke up to the fact that you were doing on your "coolsitesnsounds" terminated account. Charlie Nudo has had THREE eBay accounts permanently closed. I'm going to make 66fourdoor the fourth. >and they keep right on doing it ...and will keep right on doing it until you are GONE...OUT OF BUSINESS...KAPUT...UNABLE TO DEFRAUD ANYMORE. Get the picture...Noodles? Article: 339345 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 09:13:03 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1154644573.822485.193520@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154694240.516078.209140@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155218322.563206.151410@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155219644.857138.51030@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 10 Aug 2006 07:20:45 -0700, "bicycle" wrote: > >CAINE wrote: >> duty-honor-country wrote: >> > anyone needing replacement drive motors, alignment tapes, or >> > replacement pads for 8-track format and machines- see auctions on Ebay >> > by 66FOURDOOR >> > >> > 1463 positive feedbacks- selling history of 5 years- satisfaction >> > guaranteed or your money back ! >> >> > >Don't forget the Ebay account you lost for fraud. ...and don't forget that 66fourdoor is only open on a restricted basis. Article: 339346 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: bicyclingg@yahoo.com Subject: Re: huge lot of (1000) 78rpm shellac records- old 1900-1955 era Date: 10 Aug 2006 09:48:40 -0700 Message-ID: <1155228520.081029.253010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1155208400.426097.310060@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Bignose Bernie from 14313 wrote: > Why does he post a reply to every feedback comment? > Is it some new method of CYA'ing for online sales via e-screw? You need to dig a little deeper and read the feedback he gives to someone who gives a negative. He tries to "take back" the positive he gave them. They paid on time and he gives a positive, saying they are "reliable and recommended". Then when they complain he adds "RETRACT" to their feedback and states that they should get a negative instead and should be avoided. If the buyer complains further, he posts their contact information or their feedback online. How a seller reacts to a negatives speaks volumes. Article: 339347 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" Subject: 1000+ radio collection for sale in Tampa Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 10:22:44 -0700 Message-ID: I have been contacted by a person wishing to sell a collection of 1000+ radios located in Tampa. If you're interested, email me via http://antiqueradio.org/contact.htm and I'll forward the contact information. Regards, Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 339348 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: KUTZTOWN SEPT 22-23 who's going? Date: 10 Aug 2006 10:35:43 -0700 Message-ID: <1155231342.974835.102070@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: Mark Oppat wrote: > is it too early to ask? > > I plan on being there with a full load of capacitors, repro dials, knobs, > decals and other vital parts. > > They are expanding into the second pavilion now... its growing and its > right in the heart of antique radio country. > > Mark Oppat I will be there. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 339349 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "duty-honor-country" Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: 10 Aug 2006 10:57:38 -0700 Message-ID: <1155232658.361571.79340@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Weldon Nudlpudl wrote: > On 10-Aug-2006, "duty-honor-country" wrote: > > > Steven- check your email- simply call Pittsburgh welfare dept. and > > report the guy for double dipping on welfare checks, while he wife > > works- I'll send you the phone number > > Well, that wouldn't technically be double-dipping; it would be simple welfare fraud. In any event, I assure you that I'm not (and have never been) engaged in either. > > And I don't think that Steven wants to be viewed as your ally, Mr Nudo. His attitude is captured by the curse "A pox on both your houses!" and goodbye "Weldon"- who's just been banned by his ISP Article: 339350 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format From: "Weldon Nudlpudl" References: <1155214997.278364.214810@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:07:39 GMT On 10-Aug-2006, "bicycle" wrote: > Charlie Nudo has this theory that you are me. That theory amuses me, especially as I don't know who the devil you are. I also don't know much about DeserTBoB, except that he is intent on crushing Mr Nudo, and is a populist howler about politics. But pretty much the first thing that I ever read here from Mr Nudo was a scammer argument -- that the records that he was selling cheaply were worth a fortune, because a few LPs do sell for a small fortune. So I looked further on the web. I found that DeserTBoB is right about the sort of guy that Mr Nudo is: dishonest and incompetent. Article: 339351 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format From: "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," References: <1155232658.361571.79340@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <8DKCg.586377$Fs1.405141@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:09:08 GMT On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:57:38 GMT, duty-honor-country wrote: > and goodbye "Weldon"- who's just been banned by his ISP Well, how sad for me, then. Article: 339352 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Sherwin" Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier replacement question Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:11:34 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <0gmfd2h7pdt77baqksepipkkvil9h1ck7h@4ax.com> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 03:52:48 +0000, Michael A. Terrell wrote: > No. In fact, it lowers the ripple current and voltage in the power > supply. Just don't try in in a transformerless chassis, because the > chassis will be well above ground no matter which way you plug the radio > into the outlet. Also, double check the bridge rating if using a scavenged component (this warning applies to simple rectifier diodes too). Many aren't rated high enough for use in tube equipment - 200V is a common value. Paul Article: 339353 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Richard Seriani, Sr." References: <44DAAFB7.2007E345@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Zenith Model H511 tube radio, please help with identifying value of ceramic capacitor Message-ID: <_JKCg.181$JR5.171@dukeread11> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:22:12 -0400 "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:COqdnRxqpti8xkbZnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@comcast.com... > no reason to change one, I have never had a bad one of those... its a disc > cap. > > Mark Oppat > I must be a LOT older than you because I, on the other hand, have changed several in both old and, when I started in the 60's, new equipment. Typically, the out-of-tolerance ones caused audio distortion, while the shorted ones caused many other symptoms. By the way, the capacitor the original poster asked about is a 110pf, 500V. Richard Seriani, Sr. Article: 339354 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:21:24 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1155208186.090825.291500@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <9iFCg.233416$mF2.6480@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1155232658.361571.79340@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 10 Aug 2006 10:57:38 -0700, "duty-honor-country" wrote: >and goodbye "Weldon"- who's just been banned by his ISP The only thing you seem to be able to "ban" is other peoples' accounts on fraudBay for upsetting thier little fraud abetting business...worth billions. That's going to change soon. Article: 339355 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 11:22:52 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1155232658.361571.79340@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <8DKCg.586377$Fs1.405141@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:09:08 GMT, "Mc Kiernan, Daniel Kian," wrote: >On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:57:38 GMT, duty-honor-country wrote: > >> and goodbye "Weldon"- who's just been banned by his ISP > >Well, how sad for me, then. Noodles lives in a deluded world. He proclaimed that you were "banned," therefore it must be so. He has sent tons of emails to my ISP threatening to sue them if they don't ban me. I'm still here...and the owner of the ISP and I had some yuk yuks are Mr. Noodles' expense. Charlie Nudo = fruitcake Article: 339356 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: 10 Aug 2006 11:42:26 -0700 Message-ID: <1155235346.034952.275500@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Desertputz, I have this old Philco radio model 37-650 with an interesting very intermittent hum in the background. Are you familiar with this set and can you use your expertise in telling me where to check first? Or do you know anything about old radios, repair, and collecting? DeserTBoB wrote: > On 10 Aug 2006 08:36:01 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: > > >(laughter...) they do belong there ! > > ...and you belong in the nuthouse in Wilkes-Barre. > > Enjoy your open account...for awhile. I just got off the phone with > eBay. They're "reevaluating" their position. Article: 339357 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: 10 Aug 2006 11:46:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1155235581.902921.251440@q16g2000cwq.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Desertguy, I'm sorry for the last commentary that may have inadvertentaly asked you about your knowledge of the prime subject of this newsgroup, antique radio collecting. You obviously know nothing. RadioGary wrote: > Desertputz, > > I have this old Philco radio model 37-650 with an interesting very > intermittent hum in the background. Are you familiar with this set and > can you use your expertise in telling me where to check first? > > Or do you know anything about old radios, repair, and collecting? > > DeserTBoB wrote: > > On 10 Aug 2006 08:36:01 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: > > > > >(laughter...) they do belong there ! > > > > ...and you belong in the nuthouse in Wilkes-Barre. > > > > Enjoy your open account...for awhile. I just got off the phone with > > eBay. They're "reevaluating" their position. Article: 339358 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: 1000+ radio collection for sale in Tampa Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:27:12 GMT This wouldn't happen to be a fellow named Charlie Fulton, would it? That's where that "truckload of stuff" came from some months ago. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:KOydnaMY66v69kbZnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@giganews.com... >I have been contacted by a person wishing to sell a collection of 1000+ >radios located in Tampa. If you're interested, email me via >http://antiqueradio.org/contact.htm and I'll forward the contact >information. > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html > > Article: 339359 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Koste" Subject: Re: KUTZTOWN SEPT 22-23 who's going? Date: 10 Aug 2006 13:05:07 -0700 Message-ID: <1155240307.495258.72920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: Mark: Happy to hear you're making the trip! See you and everyone else in my usual spot in the fifty yard line. Mike Koste Gobs of Knobs Ambler, PA Article: 339360 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: Subject: Re: 1000+ radio collection for sale in Tampa Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 13:45:28 -0700 Message-ID: <9qadnQLYBJFNB0bZnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@giganews.com> This guy's name is Bill. Says he is helping a friend who owns the collection. Phil "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:kMLCg.16634$l95.7865@trnddc08... > This wouldn't happen to be a fellow named Charlie Fulton, would it? Article: 339361 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Pictures of the project SC-145P skyscraper Date: 10 Aug 2006 13:58:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1155243489.997084.71520@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> I got it home safely today. There's a lot of veneer work. I didn't realize the cabinet was so big. Appears to be missing the cover for the labyrinth. The big piece of curled veneer is from the phono compartment lid. Also missing the handle for the record storage door. Here's some pictures. http://groups.msn.com/AuroraOldRadios/shoebox.msnw?Page=1 Article: 339362 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: TO 3000-1 Help please. From: noone@telus.com Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:10:33 GMT Hi folks. My TO 3000 -1 works after a fashion on FM (very low volume) but is completely dead on any other bands. I've "Googled 'til my face turned blue - followed a few suggestions (bent back the transistor case lead on the 4-lead types) with no change. I even bought a copy of the Zenith service manual (the very same as I downloaded off the 'net for free (ooooh! that hurts a Scotsman :-)) hoping to find out how to get to the dial lamp, and to the back of the chassis to take a few readings but no banana. I took a chassis out of one of these beasts years ago but, having yet another "senior moment", I can't remember how. Could any kind soul walk me through it please? (or point me towards a source for said information). Thanks. Haggis. Article: 339363 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1155243489.997084.71520@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Pictures of the project SC-145P skyscraper Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 14:16:51 -0700 Message-ID: Suh-weet! Yes, they are big. How about a photo of the changer? As I recall, it was a somewhat scary gizmo that flung played records into the slanted bin on the side. Phil Nelson Article: 339364 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Pictures of the project SC-145P skyscraper Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:42:11 -0400 Message-ID: <12dna223sk3q194@corp.supernews.com> References: <1155243489.997084.71520@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1155243489.997084.71520@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >I got it home safely today. There's a lot of veneer work. Is there ? I haven't bought a set with less in awhile, but after all they're my specialty. John H. From suptjudatcomcastdotnet Fri Aug 11 00:13:20 EDT 2006 Article: 339365 of rec.antiques.radio+phono NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 16:49:51 -0500 From: "TerryJ" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono References: <1155243489.997084.71520@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Pictures of the project SC-145P skyscraper Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:49:53 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2869 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2962 Message-ID: Lines: 11 NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.56.6.144 X-Trace: sv3-y6hX+5YVwUXFt6LGffbDHa2DFopbCJaazqBiL270Ku9axuWRYEVWRfIN4Yzz1ZZKSIe9alVhKGCsN6T!CR7LgHMB/QsQu43eEgq1MyW+6ULPLgL6vpD4AKYRedvaAfTSmxIOhBR154F9UgzAXi+7OEs8212N!wh+tsuKcGA== X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local02.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:339365 Humble opinion.... darned ugly compared to the 145L.. "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1155243489.997084.71520@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >I got it home safely today. There's a lot of veneer work. I didn't > realize the cabinet was so big. Appears to be missing the cover for the > labyrinth. The big piece of curled veneer is from the phono compartment > lid. Also missing the handle for the record storage door. > Here's some pictures. > http://groups.msn.com/AuroraOldRadios/shoebox.msnw?Page=1 > Article: 339366 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: KUTZTOWN SEPT 22-23 who's going? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:54:36 -0400 Message-ID: <12dnapbb9uv8rad@corp.supernews.com> References: I'm in 316 and 318, I took an aisle space to be a bit farther from the "drip edge". I'll have a mess of nice consoles and table sets 1930-40 both fixer upper and restored. I'll post a list in September. I'm bringing SO much stuff I'll likely have to stay at Motel Styx in Blinghamton, NY on the way down for lack of room in the van! It's not too early to ask Mark, K-town's exactly six weeks away! We there or be AWA'd! John H. Article: 339367 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Theresa McCarty" References: <44DAAFB7.2007E345@earthlink.net> <_JKCg.181$JR5.171@dukeread11> Subject: Re: Zenith Model H511 tube radio, please help with identifying value of ceramic capacitor Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:21:16 -0400 Message-ID: <-82dnS5D9KTlLEbZnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@qx.net> Izzat wunna those round red candy ( now brown) caps with the 'funny' numbering--- like, #s in the "20's for all the caps... that ya do find in the 50's Zenith AM/FMs? > I must be a LOT older than you because I, on the other hand, have changed > several in both old and, when I started in the 60's, new equipment. > Typically, the out-of-tolerance ones caused audio distortion, while the > shorted ones caused many other symptoms. > > By the way, the capacitor the original poster asked about is a 110pf, > 500V. > > Richard Seriani, Sr. > > Article: 339368 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Theresa McCarty" References: <1155157833.674299.3280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <25180-44DA5517-316@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> <198bd$44db4350$d1cc7b2f$15602@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> Subject: Re: Boycott Gettysburg Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:24:05 -0400 Message-ID: I have often thought of auctioning a transistor radio "that was used by Abraham Lincoln" on eBay. Article: 339369 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Boycott Gettysburg Date: 10 Aug 2006 16:28:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1155252498.413924.286340@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <3898f$44da1205$d1cc7ca5$3619@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> I have this Philco with a power supply problem...............and...............and. Tom wrote: > Link to Gettysburg photos showing the Gettysburg battlefield before > superintendent John Latschar's ego ran amok and ruined it. > http://users.snip.net/~hart/ > > We loved Gettysburg: married there, took dozens of week-long trips, spent > many thousands of dollars there, and even considered moving there. But those > days are over thanks to park superintendent John Latschar. He's ruining the > Gettysburg battlefield. He calls it restoration. Desecration is more > descriptive. If we spent another dime we'd be supporting the destruction. We > refuse. > > Trees are being ripped out wholesale. The deer have been slaughtered. > Visiting on a November evening is an experience everyone should be able to > enjoy, but he shortened the decades-old operating hours so you'll be > ticketed and labeled criminals. He threw up so many one-way signs that > traffic in town has become a tourist's nightmare. His nonsense goes on and > on. > > He likes saying, "The time for comment was during the planning, not now." > Well, Bozo, the public DID and continues to comment, but you ignore them. > Tens of 1000s have voiced their concern, but you act as though the > Gettysburg battlefield is your own private domain to use and abuse as you > please. It belongs to the taxpayers, not an arrogant, government-appointed > bureaucratic freeloader. > > Gettysburg battlefield ghost hunters have been turned away in droves because > he equates them with drug users and drinkers. What a moron. Not only is the > town losing a fortune toward the local economy, the park is losing thousands > of watchful eyes from some of the most respectful visitors. Those with evil > intent will always gain access at night as was proven by recent vandalism. > Closing the park merely keeps honest folks out. John Latschar has, in > effect, given vandals free rein. > > Attendance is lagging. He blames everything except his own bumbling. He > constantly moans about never having enough money to fix rotting cannons, > monuments and buildings, yet continues wasting funds on mindnumbingly > senseless projects that divide the townspeople and drives others away. It's > typical government ineptness. > > Looks like John Latschar sits around dreaming up new ways to piss people > off. If he's not shooting the wildlife, cutting down 100s of acres of trees, > changing the hours or screwing up traffic flow, he'll devise some other > dumbass plan. Chances are he'll eventually move on to another location > leaving his mess and debts behind for someone else. It wouldn't be the first > time. > > What's worse than allowing John Latschar to inflict so much damage to the > Gettysburg battlefield? Most of you sit idly by and let it happen without so > much as a whimper. Talk is cheap, but a Gettysburg boycott speaks volumes. > We're doing our part. Good bye Gettysburg. You were our favorite place on > Earth until John Latschar raped you. Now you're just a memory. What a pity > and disgrace. > > Cassie and Tom > http://users.snip.net/~hart/ Article: 339370 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Fred C" References: <44db4dc8@news.meer.net> Subject: Re: Orepheus Radio Battery Set Message-ID: <44dbcbda@news.meer.net> Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 20:14:15 -0400 Sorry, I misspelled Orpheus in the title "Fred C" wrote in message news:44db4dc8@news.meer.net... > Need info on an Orpheus 5 tube battery radio (name written on front > panel). This radio has 3 main knobs which are tuning1, tuning 2, and > sensitivity. Only know of 3 of these in existance. One of us has has > traced the circuit. The audio is resistance coupled using 3 stages to get > decent gain. The RF appears to be regen. The center dial is surrounded > by a lyre. Made in both table model and desk model. Tubes are 201A. > > I have one ad for the Orpheus radios showing models A, C, H, very > different from the ones we have. This radio is thought to have been made > by Roth-Downs, although the only marking on the radio itself is Orpheus. > > Any help will be much appreciated. > Article: 339371 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: Subject: Re: TO 3000-1 Help please. Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 17:56:22 -0700 Message-ID: I have never removed the chassis on my 3000-1, so can't offer help on that detail. In the event that you get it out, however, I'd suggest starting by cleaning the bandswitch. By coincidence, somebody sent me email about that set, which inspired me to haul mine off the shelf and power it up for the first time in three or four years. Guess what -- same symptom. Reception on FM, but no other bands, although they all worked great Lo, those many years ago. I suspect a cruddy bandswitch . . . at least in my case. Back in the day, I used it mostly on FM and certainly left it in that position when I stuck it back on the shelf. Use 'em or lose 'em! Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 339372 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "graham" References: <1155157833.674299.3280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <25180-44DA5517-316@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net> <198bd$44db4350$d1cc7b2f$15602@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> Subject: Re: Boycott Gettysburg Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 18:05:13 -0700 Message-ID: "Theresa McCarty" wrote in message news:XdadnXxlk6G9L0bZnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@qx.net... >I have often thought of auctioning a transistor radio "that was used by Abraham >Lincoln" on eBay. .. sorry, transistors where not yet invented ... so Lincoln's set must have been vacuum tube ... too bad the "theater" didn't broadcast the live performance so there would have been a choice to attend or not ... Article: 339373 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: Subject: Re: KUTZTOWN SEPT 22-23 who's going? Message-ID: <0NQCg.20847$8j3.5790@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 01:09:16 GMT Oh good, I can HI to Mark again! Ill be there, and this time with a TABLE. WOW! My first selling experience at a flea... this would never have happened in Rochester! Probably wont bring much if any of my restored stuff but I have alot of general *somebody will want this if its cheap enough* stuff to get moved out of the basement to make way for more of what Im really interested in. I will post a list in early Sept, and see if there is any specific interest. WOW, only 6 weeks? Keith "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:ebWdnVnZ0t_UwUbZnZ2dnUVZ_uudnZ2d@comcast.com... > is it too early to ask? > > I plan on being there with a full load of capacitors, repro dials, knobs, > decals and other vital parts. > > They are expanding into the second pavilion now... its growing and its > right in the heart of antique radio country. > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 339374 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Avery W3AVE" Subject: Re: KUTZTOWN SEPT 22-23 who's going? Date: 10 Aug 2006 18:28:55 -0700 Message-ID: <1155259735.216056.264310@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: I've never been to this affair. When is an ordinary civilian non-dealer advised to show up--usual flea market rules--the earlier the better Saturday? Or is this one different? Article: 339375 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: KUTZTOWN SEPT 22-23 who's going? Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:44:56 -0400 Message-ID: <12dno96q4brvh0c@corp.supernews.com> References: <1155259735.216056.264310@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Avery W3AVE" wrote in message news:1155259735.216056.264310@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I've never been to this affair. When is an ordinary civilian non-dealer > advised to show up--usual flea market rules--the earlier the better > Saturday? Or is this one different? > Well, about half the good deals are transacted during dealer setup starting late AM Friday. Then another wave of dealers comes Sat. AM early. So true bargain hunters arrive Friday say noon or so and camp out or stay nearby. John H. Article: 339376 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: Pictures of the project SC-145P skyscraper Date: 10 Aug 2006 18:57:43 -0700 Message-ID: <1155261463.447679.84350@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1155243489.997084.71520@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> TerryJ wrote: > Humble opinion.... darned ugly compared to the 145L.. i'll take a truck load of ugly if that is the case. Article: 339377 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: TO 3000-1 Help please. From: noone@telus.com References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 02:04:40 GMT On 10-Aug-2006, "Phil Nelson" wrote: snip for brevity> In the event that you get it out, however, I'd suggest starting by > cleaning the bandswitch. >snip Thanks Phil - I thought that's what I'd try, but I can't even see the bandswitch until I get the chassis out - I think :-). Anyone? - pretty please! Haggis. Article: 339378 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: Pictures of the project SC-145P skyscraper References: <1155243489.997084.71520@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 02:11:45 GMT That is one really unique radio! I like it, mainly because it is different. Keep us updated on your progress, I'd like to see how it turns out. -- Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Article: 339379 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary B" Subject: Need Phonograph Help Date: 10 Aug 2006 19:32:27 -0700 Message-ID: <1155263547.763931.264130@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> I'm working on an RCA portable record player. It's model 6-EY-3A form 1956. It has very low volume. I've recapped, replaced the selenium rectifier with a diode and resistor, checked all the resistors, checked my voltages and resistances, but still no improvement. The output transformer has approximately 300 ohms across it with no apparent shorts. My first thought was the cartridge, but I read that if you run your finger across the needle, and hear sound, it's not the cartridge. I sure could use some help - please - please - please. Gary B Article: 339380 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: TO 3000-1 Help please. Date: 10 Aug 2006 19:35:39 -0700 Message-ID: <1155263739.543405.152580@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: Phil and Company, Is there any documentation on how to disassemble a 3000 somewhere on the net? Like yourself I have one I bought for a song at a flea market some time ago, but it's woes lie in dirty connections and so forth. Would love to get it going again, but what a pain in the axx it seems like to get it out of the case for total chassis overhaul. Any information would be appreciated by me, and the good person who started this subject. Thanks, Gary Phil Nelson wrote: > I have never removed the chassis on my 3000-1, so can't offer help on that > detail. > > In the event that you get it out, however, I'd suggest starting by cleaning > the bandswitch. By coincidence, somebody sent me email about that set, which > inspired me to haul mine off the shelf and power it up for the first time in > three or four years. Guess what -- same symptom. Reception on FM, but no > other bands, although they all worked great Lo, those many years ago. > > I suspect a cruddy bandswitch . . . at least in my case. Back in the day, I > used it mostly on FM and certainly left it in that position when I stuck it > back on the shelf. > > Use 'em or lose 'em! > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 339381 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AB9GO" Subject: Re: Need Phonograph Help Date: 10 Aug 2006 19:54:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1155264850.639134.197650@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1155263547.763931.264130@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> You need to touch the wire going to the cartridge, not the needle. If you get a loud hum, the cartridge is bad. Make sure that you are NOT gounded! If it is the original cartridge it is almost 100% sure to be bad. Even an almost dead cartridge will have enough output to make some noise when you rub the finger across the needle! Randy Gary B wrote: > I'm working on an RCA portable record player. It's model 6-EY-3A form > 1956. It has very low volume. I've recapped, replaced the selenium > rectifier with a diode and resistor, checked all the resistors, checked > my voltages and resistances, but still no improvement. The output > transformer has approximately 300 ohms across it with no apparent > shorts. My first thought was the cartridge, but I read that if you run > your finger across the needle, and hear sound, it's not the cartridge. > I sure could use some help - please - please - please. > > Gary B Article: 339382 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: art@myantiqueradio.com Subject: Re: Batgain 16B Date: 10 Aug 2006 20:22:22 -0700 Message-ID: <1155266542.072736.238850@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Well its at $175 with 13 hours to go. I bet it hits $250 Larry Fowkes wrote: > "Art's Antique Radios" wrote in message > news:2eydnV-HIOXu6UvZnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > BIN was $135 > > > > That was a steal at $135.00. They guy who opened the bidding did the seller > a favor though, I bet it goes well over $135.00. I paid about twice that for > mine a few years ago and felt I got a deal, fortunately I got it from a > local collector so did not have to deal with shipping. That was my first > high end set and I really learned to appreciate how well these sets perform > when restored. > > Larry Fowkes Article: 339383 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: TO 3000-1 Help please. Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:53:58 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1155263739.543405.152580@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1155263739.543405.152580@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > Phil and Company, > > Is there any documentation on how to disassemble a 3000 somewhere on > the net? Like yourself I have one I bought for a song at a flea market > some time ago, but it's woes lie in dirty connections and so forth. > Would love to get it going again, but what a pain in the axx it seems > like to get it out of the case for total chassis overhaul. > > Any information would be appreciated by me, and the good person who > started this subject. > > http://www.antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=55216&highlight=&sid=43852c908d8b5cab4ac23eb4c52f1082 Article: 339384 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1155263739.543405.152580@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: TO 3000-1 Help please. Date: Thu, 10 Aug 2006 21:26:05 -0700 Message-ID: <2v2dnW--p8l_m0HZnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@giganews.com> Brenda rules! Phil Nelson Article: 339385 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: TO 3000-1 Help please. From: noone@telus.com References: <1155263739.543405.152580@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <2v2dnW--p8l_m0HZnZ2dnUVZ_qSdnZ2d@giganews.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 04:57:45 GMT On 10-Aug-2006, "Phil Nelson" wrote: > Brenda rules! > > Phil Nelson I second that! Thanks a million! Haggis. Article: 339386 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Magnola Talking Machine Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:25:46 -0500 Message-ID: <29223-44DC14DA-279@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: Bub,I think you missed the boat. cuhulin Article: 339387 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Magnola Talking Machine Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 00:25:06 -0500 Message-ID: <29223-44DC14B2-278@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: They have almost no value today to a collector,you say? Oh,is that right? How much value does a Stangiulini have to a Chevrolet? cuhulin Article: 339388 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Batgain 16B Date: 10 Aug 2006 23:15:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1155276953.599244.244820@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: art@myantiqueradio.com wrote: > Well its at $175 with 13 hours to go. > > I bet it hits $250 Well that certainly disqualifies it as EITHER a Batgain OR and bargain by my definition. It's a glorious wad of lucre for Mr. Seller however. Maybe the drinks are on him tonight. Article: 339389 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Boycott Gettysburg Date: 10 Aug 2006 23:18:45 -0700 Message-ID: <1155277124.999163.138190@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1155157833.674299.3280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> graham wrote: > "Theresa McCarty" wrote in message > news:XdadnXxlk6G9L0bZnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@qx.net... > > >I have often thought of auctioning a transistor radio "that was used by Abraham > >Lincoln" on eBay. > > .. sorry, transistors where not yet invented ... so Lincoln's set must > have been vacuum tube ... too bad the "theater" didn't broadcast > the live performance so there would have been a choice to attend > or not ... Dr. Miguelito Loveless was already using remote controlled vehicles while attempting to kill James West and Artemus Gordon! Why not? Article: 339390 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Boycott Gettysburg Date: 10 Aug 2006 23:20:54 -0700 Message-ID: <1155277254.109121.134640@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <3898f$44da1205$d1cc7ca5$3619@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> RadioGary wrote: > I have this Philco with a power supply > problem...............and...............and. ZO! Tell ushzabout your Philllcoe, Herr Gahree! Article: 339391 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: 10 Aug 2006 23:26:47 -0700 Message-ID: <1155277607.617066.59250@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> I have a feeling the inmates are already in RRAP, running their own treatment plan. So much for this so-called life (or whichever one they invented and currently reference). Article: 339392 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: KUTZTOWN SEPT 22-23 who's going? Date: 10 Aug 2006 23:28:39 -0700 Message-ID: <1155277719.738608.308100@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: Have fun. Article: 339393 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 1000+ radio collection for sale in Tampa Date: 10 Aug 2006 23:35:30 -0700 Message-ID: <1155278130.330754.209870@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Phil Nelson wrote: > This guy's name is Bill. Says he is helping a friend who owns the > collection. > > Phil He could help a lot more by selling in ones and twos or something? Who's got a 1000+ damned radios and lets a rank amateur sell his shit? Article: 339394 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gerryu21220@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Need Phonograph Help Date: 11 Aug 2006 02:53:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1155290001.083907.22940@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1155263547.763931.264130@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> AB9GO wrote: > You need to touch the wire going to the cartridge, not the needle. If > you get a loud hum, the cartridge is bad. Make sure that you are NOT > gounded! If it is the original cartridge it is almost 100% sure to be > bad. Even an almost dead cartridge will have enough output to make > some noise when you rub the finger across the needle! I find the opposite is usually true: when I have a bad cartridge, and the wires are connected to it, I get no hum touching the hot lead. When the cartridge is still good, I get the hum if I touch the hot lead. I also get the hum from the hot lead when there is no cartrige connected. But you are right - I've had some that were just about dead still put out some faint sound at a very low volume. Of course, that applies to the crystal cartridges. I have one that still plays loud and clear, but two others that are totally dead. One even seems to be leaking some sort of fluid, kind of like grease. They can be rebuilt using parts from a modern cartridge, such as a Ronette, but that is tricky and delicate to do. There are a few places on the web that will rebuild them for you. I have another 45 player - with an amp - (7-HF-45) with what I believe came with a ceramic cartridge. It has a red plastic housing rather than the usual flat aluminum housing. They usually don't go bad like the crystal carts. You can use a more modern cartridge, even a stereo one wired for mono if you want. Article: 339395 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Soldering techniques Message-ID: <2BZCg.73406$Qu4.13354@trnddc04> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:10:54 GMT Here's a subject that is bound to stir up a little conversation . . . Since we deal mainly with hand-wired components, just how do you replace/resolder them? Personally I'm amazed at how the original wiring gets there in the first place, in some instances. For example, take a typical lug on a typical terminal strip. There is a capacitor wired to it, two resistors, and three wires. To undo the capacitor I heat the lug, then poke it with a jeweler's screwdriver to work the capacitor lead loose. I work SOMETHING loose, turns out to be one of the wires, and it gets rather frayed, so in the name of neatness I pull all the components and resolder. So I continue to unwrap, and unwrap, and unwrap, until I finally get the wire off -- with 2 1/2 inches of bare wire that was wrapped. Next wire, same thing. Ditto with the third, and the resistor, and the capacitor. By the time the lug is cleaned, there is so much bare wire it's unbelievable how it got assembled that way to start with! So I install a new capacitor. I reinstall the resistor by cutting the lead off and wrapping it only once. Same with each wire. Although it looks nice and neat, it still makes for a larger blob than what was there originally. In my experience with car radios, Bendix is the worst when it comes to excess. I just rebuilt a 50 Ford radio, and upon replacing the electrolytic I removed a 2 watt resistor. Carefully unraveling the leads, I managed to remove it intact. I straightened out the leads, and it's as though I could put it back in the bin -- the leads were full length and uncut! What, are they allergic to dykes? In contrast a lot of 60's Delcos are done by poking a wire through a hole and hitting it with solder. It's so easy to strip a volume control; just hit it with the soldering iron and the wires fall off! I know some people don't bother to remove the old leads at all; just solder over them. Others will cut off the leads of the original, hook the ends, hook the leads of the replacement, hook them together and solder. I've done this, but only in cases where it's nearly impossible to reach the solder post without major disassembly. I'm open to your comments. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 339396 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44dc67f0$0$4526$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: FA: huge lot of (1000) 78rpm shellac records- old 1900-1955 era References: <1155208587.493713.100000@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: 11 Aug 2006 11:20:16 GMT In rec.antiques.radio+phono DeserTBoB wrote: > He defrauded me twice under two different eBay account names What does that, and your misbehaviour, say about your intelligence? I would not be so proud of that if I were you. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 339397 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "duty-honor-country" Subject: Re: FA: huge lot of (1000) 78rpm shellac records- old 1900-1955 era Date: 11 Aug 2006 04:31:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1155295904.442213.218370@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1155208587.493713.100000@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> maar...@panic.xx.tudelft.nl wrote: > In rec.antiques.radio+phono DeserTBoB wrote: > > He defrauded me twice under two different eBay account names > > What does that, and your misbehaviour, say about your intelligence? I > would not be so proud of that if I were you. > > -- > Met vriendelijke groet, > > Maarten Bakker. what he fails to tell you is- he got a full refund and returned one item, and he decided to KEEP the other item, because at the time it was a hard to find, OOP movie on VHS. read about it here http://groups.google.com/group/alt.collecting.8-track-tapes/browse_frm/thread/2b2289612938590/b51f951a7b327d13?lnk=gst&q=nudo+check+clears&rnum=1#b51f951a7b327d13 he even posted when the check cleared his bank who would carry on this long, for 2 years, after getting all their money back ?? he obviously has absolutely nothing better to do in his life- and he's not mentally stable. ps- keep in mind the DESERTBOB guy also had (2) of his Ebay usernames banned this year- for auction harassment, posting private contact info, and driving bidders away from auctions. He also was buying 8 items for a penny each, just to leave the sellers 8 negative feedbacks. He's a sick ticket. Article: 339398 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "duty-honor-country" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: 11 Aug 2006 04:36:12 -0700 Message-ID: <1155296172.850779.205080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> RadioGary wrote: > Desertguy, > > I'm sorry for the last commentary that may have inadvertentaly asked > you about your knowledge of the prime subject of this newsgroup, > antique radio collecting. You obviously know nothing. > > RadioGary wrote: > > Desertputz, > > > > I have this old Philco radio model 37-650 with an interesting very > > intermittent hum in the background. Are you familiar with this set and > > can you use your expertise in telling me where to check first? > > > > Or do you know anything about old radios, repair, and collecting? > > > > DeserTBoB wrote: > > > On 10 Aug 2006 08:36:01 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: > > > > > > >(laughter...) they do belong there ! > > > > > > ...and you belong in the nuthouse in Wilkes-Barre. > > > > > > Enjoy your open account...for awhile. I just got off the phone with > > > eBay. They're "reevaluating" their position. (laughter...) wow, talk about a 1-2 punch, DESERTBOB bites dust ! Article: 339399 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: 11 Aug 2006 04:40:56 -0700 Message-ID: <1155296455.937200.322830@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> duty-honor-country wrote: > RadioGary wrote: > > Desertguy, > > > > I'm sorry for the last commentary that may have inadvertentaly asked > > you about your knowledge of the prime subject of this newsgroup, > > antique radio collecting. You obviously know nothing. > > > > RadioGary wrote: > > > Desertputz, > > > > > > I have this old Philco radio model 37-650 with an interesting very > > > intermittent hum in the background. Are you familiar with this set and > > > can you use your expertise in telling me where to check first? > > > > > > Or do you know anything about old radios, repair, and collecting? > > > > > > DeserTBoB wrote: > > > > On 10 Aug 2006 08:36:01 -0700, "CAINE" wrote: > > > > > > > > >(laughter...) they do belong there ! > > > > > > > > ...and you belong in the nuthouse in Wilkes-Barre. > > > > > > > > Enjoy your open account...for awhile. I just got off the phone with > > > > eBay. They're "reevaluating" their position. > > > (laughter...) wow, talk about a 1-2 punch, DESERTBOB bites dust ! Shut the fucking door, bitch! We got air conditioning in here. Article: 339400 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: FA: huge lot of (1000) 78rpm shellac records- old 1900-1955 era Date: 11 Aug 2006 04:47:07 -0700 Message-ID: <1155296827.682912.84440@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1155208587.493713.100000@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> And you need to say it over rec.music.dementia,alt.collecting.records,rec.music.rock-pop-r+b.1950s,rec.antiques.radio+phono,rec.audio.pro to make it clear? What kind of pregnant tomcat should we take you for? Must be a p---y where none has gone before? Maybe it the elemental factor of this should be lead. A double shot of nobody's love. Go to Iraq, and take your brother Georgie with you. Article: 339401 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1155263547.763931.264130@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Need Phonograph Help Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 07:47:21 -0400 "Gary B" wrote in message news:1155263547.763931.264130@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > I'm working on an RCA portable record player. It's model 6-EY-3A form > 1956. It has very low volume. I've recapped, replaced the selenium > rectifier with a diode and resistor, checked all the resistors, checked > my voltages and resistances, but still no improvement. The output > transformer has approximately 300 ohms across it with no apparent > shorts. My first thought was the cartridge, but I read that if you run > your finger across the needle, and hear sound, it's not the cartridge. > I sure could use some help - please - please - please. > > Gary B If the cartridge is original, it is bad. If you wish to rebuild it yourself, got to my website: http://www.oldradioz.com click on Z-Forum and in the private Forum there is a 6 parts thread on how to rebuild a phono cartridge. If you do not want to do it yourself, I can rebuild your cartridge like it should. Contact me; restoration@oldradioz.com You can also click on the phono cartridge restoration link on my website for more information. Syl Article: 339402 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: here@home.net (Let It Rock) Subject: Re: FA: huge lot of (1000) 78rpm shellac records- old 1900-1955 era Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 11:48:56 GMT Message-ID: <44dc6de0.4410718@free.teranews.com> References: <1155208587.493713.100000@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44dc67f0$0$4526$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> On 11 Aug 2006 11:20:16 GMT, maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl wrote: >In rec.antiques.radio+phono DeserTBoB wrote: >> He defrauded me twice under two different eBay account names > >What does that, and your misbehaviour, say about your intelligence? I >would not be so proud of that if I were you. > >-- >Met vriendelijke groet, > >Maarten Bakker. You criminal-friendly Dutchies with drug addicts and 'hos lying on the sidewalk aren't going to be upset with a little Internet fraud, eh. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 339403 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Soldering techniques Date: 11 Aug 2006 04:50:31 -0700 Message-ID: <1155297031.047860.323640@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <2BZCg.73406$Qu4.13354@trnddc04> Gary Tayman wrote: > Here's a subject that is bound to stir up a little conversation . . . > > Since we deal mainly with hand-wired components, just how do you > replace/resolder them? > > Personally I'm amazed at how the original wiring gets there in the first > place, in some instances. For example, take a typical lug on a typical > terminal strip. There is a capacitor wired to it, two resistors, and three > wires. To undo the capacitor I heat the lug, then poke it with a jeweler's > screwdriver to work the capacitor lead loose. I work SOMETHING loose, turns > out to be one of the wires, and it gets rather frayed, so in the name of > neatness I pull all the components and resolder. So I continue to unwrap, > and unwrap, and unwrap, until I finally get the wire off -- with 2 1/2 > inches of bare wire that was wrapped. Next wire, same thing. Ditto with > the third, and the resistor, and the capacitor. By the time the lug is > cleaned, there is so much bare wire it's unbelievable how it got assembled > that way to start with! > > So I install a new capacitor. I reinstall the resistor by cutting the lead > off and wrapping it only once. Same with each wire. Although it looks nice > and neat, it still makes for a larger blob than what was there originally. > > In my experience with car radios, Bendix is the worst when it comes to > excess. I just rebuilt a 50 Ford radio, and upon replacing the electrolytic > I removed a 2 watt resistor. Carefully unraveling the leads, I managed to > remove it intact. I straightened out the leads, and it's as though I could > put it back in the bin -- the leads were full length and uncut! What, are > they allergic to dykes? In contrast a lot of 60's Delcos are done by poking > a wire through a hole and hitting it with solder. It's so easy to strip a > volume control; just hit it with the soldering iron and the wires fall off! > > I know some people don't bother to remove the old leads at all; just solder > over them. Others will cut off the leads of the original, hook the ends, > hook the leads of the replacement, hook them together and solder. I've done > this, but only in cases where it's nearly impossible to reach the solder > post without major disassembly. > > I'm open to your comments. Little tiny women with better hands than yours, lousy pay and great motivation made them 70 years ago. Give up : p > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 339404 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: FA: huge lot of (1000) 78rpm shellac records- old 1900-1955 era Date: 11 Aug 2006 04:58:46 -0700 Message-ID: <1155297526.103734.281370@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1155208587.493713.100000@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Let It Rock wrote: > On 11 Aug 2006 11:20:16 GMT, maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl wrote: > > >In rec.antiques.radio+phono DeserTBoB wrote: > >> He defrauded me twice under two different eBay account names > > > >What does that, and your misbehaviour, say about your intelligence? I > >would not be so proud of that if I were you. > > > >-- > >Met vriendelijke groet, > > > >Maarten Bakker. > > You criminal-friendly Dutchies with drug addicts and 'hos lying on the > sidewalk aren't going to be upset with a little Internet fraud, eh? Well, you seem to be a Canadian Socialist/anarchist dirtbag who likes a Zanax posterboy like Noam Chomsky, and hookers are unionized over there. Suggest you get a life and go figure for yo'self, hoser. Take off, it's a beauty when you go! > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com You can't afford a good Usenet provider either, and stop adding groups, Axis Betty Article: 339405 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Boycott Gettysburg Date: 11 Aug 2006 05:04:49 -0700 Message-ID: <1155297889.264107.73470@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1155157833.674299.3280@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Theresa McCarty wrote: > I have often thought of auctioning a transistor radio "that was used by > Abraham Lincoln" on eBay. Glue a penny on it. It will be the sesquicentennial in a few years, and English schoolboys everywhere will want it. Article: 339406 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Avery W3AVE" Subject: Re: KUTZTOWN SEPT 22-23 who's going? Date: 11 Aug 2006 05:11:59 -0700 Message-ID: <1155298319.770950.110690@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: Hagstar wrote: > "Avery W3AVE" wrote in message > news:1155259735.216056.264310@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > I've never been to this affair. When is an ordinary civilian non-dealer > > advised to show up--usual flea market rules--the earlier the better > > Saturday? Or is this one different? > > > > Well, about half the good deals are transacted during dealer setup starting > late AM Friday. Then another wave of dealers comes Sat. AM early. So true > bargain hunters arrive Friday say noon or so and camp out or stay nearby. > > John H. Thanks. I'll try to talk my wife into staying over. Article: 339407 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: here@home.net (Let It Rock) Subject: Re: FA: huge lot of (1000) 78rpm shellac records- old 1900-1955 era Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:29:42 GMT Message-ID: <44dc7833.7054156@free.teranews.com> References: <1155208587.493713.100000@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44dc67f0$0$4526$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <44dc6de0.4410718@free.teranews.com> <1155297526.103734.281370@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 11 Aug 2006 04:58:46 -0700, "Steven" wrote: >Let It Rock wrote: >> On 11 Aug 2006 11:20:16 GMT, maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl wrote: >> >> >In rec.antiques.radio+phono DeserTBoB wrote: >> >> He defrauded me twice under two different eBay account names >> > >> >What does that, and your misbehaviour, say about your intelligence? I >> >would not be so proud of that if I were you. >> > >> >-- >> >Met vriendelijke groet, >> > >> >Maarten Bakker. >> >> You criminal-friendly Dutchies with drug addicts and 'hos lying on the >> sidewalk aren't going to be upset with a little Internet fraud, eh? > >Well, you seem to be a Canadian Socialist/anarchist dirtbag who likes a >Zanax posterboy like Noam Chomsky, and hookers are unionized over >there. Suggest you get a life and go figure for yo'self, hoser. Take >off, it's a beauty when you go! Canuck? That's almost as bad as calling me a whigger. Akmed'll straighten you Euro-twits, Hans. Within 20 years you'll be facing East when ya pray, sportin' a diaper around ya head, slicing your daughter's throat for showing too much face, and buying your sons suicide vests for Merry Mecca Day. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 339408 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Boycott Gettysburg Date: 11 Aug 2006 05:34:50 -0700 Message-ID: <1155299690.627866.148420@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <3898f$44da1205$d1cc7ca5$3619@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> Steven wrote: > RadioGary wrote: > > I have this Philco with a power supply > > problem...............and...............and. > > ZO! Tell ushzabout your Philllcoe, Herr Gahree! Anti semetic perhaps? What drugs are you on anyway? Article: 339409 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: FA: huge lot of (1000) 78rpm shellac records- old 1900-1955 era Date: 11 Aug 2006 05:38:08 -0700 Message-ID: <1155299887.983090.204420@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1155208587.493713.100000@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Let It Rock wrote: > On 11 Aug 2006 04:58:46 -0700, "Steven" wrote: > Canuck? That's almost as bad as calling me a whigger. > > Akmed'll straighten you Euro-twits, Hans. Within 20 years you'll be > facing East when ya pray, sportin' a diaper around ya head, slicing > your daughter's throat for showing too much face, and buying your sons > suicide vests for Merry Mecca Day. > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Posts: Posts in All 265 Groups -- 3543 messages can.politics -- 1405 messages can.community.military -- 637 messages bc.general -- 472 messages ns.general -- 93 messages alt.terrorism.world-trade-center -- 71 messages alt.sports.football.....ne-patriots -- 45 messages soc.culture.canada -- 38 messages can.general -- 34 messages soc.culture.jewish -- 27 messages alt.security.terrorism -- 25 messages alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian -- 22 messages alt.dss.hack -- 20 messages alt.politics.usa.misc -- 18 messages bc.politics -- 14 messages alt.cracks -- 14 messages alt.os.linux.suse -- 13 messages alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus -- 13 messages wales.test -- 12 messages alt.comp.periphs.videocards.matrox -- 12 messages 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Article: 339410 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Boycott Gettysburg Date: 11 Aug 2006 05:39:47 -0700 Message-ID: <1155299987.691647.284850@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <3898f$44da1205$d1cc7ca5$3619@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> RadioGary wrote: > Steven wrote: > > RadioGary wrote: > > > I have this Philco with a power supply > > > problem...............and...............and. > > > > ZO! Tell ushzabout your Philllcoe, Herr Gahree! > > Anti semetic perhaps? What drugs are you on anyway? Stupid German psychiatrist accent. What pills are YOU on, Gary? Article: 339411 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" Subject: Capacitors with braid for leads? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 08:41:46 -0400 I have noticed that in 6 volt DC radios, often capacitors which bypass the 6 volt DC lines (in the range of .5 mfd) often have what looks like thick shield braid for leads, as if they need to carry heavy current. These are like the braids used to ground tuning capacitors to the chassis. Just curious why the thick leads? Also, I leave most of these alone if not VERY leaky or shorted (rare). But what would one replace one of these with? A standard .47 etc yellow tubular? Thanks! Dave Article: 339412 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Soldering techniques References: <2BZCg.73406$Qu4.13354@trnddc04> <1155297031.047860.323640@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 08:49:26 -0400 In the 60's I was a supplier on a GE mobile radio hand wiring assembly line. The line would start out slow in the morning, and every so often the foreman would sneak to the end of the line and turn up the speed. Each woman on the line had two or three things to do, and they had it down to a science. Talk about repeatability, they were right on every time. But I did see a few just freak out from the pressure, they were pushed to the limit. I saw one woman drop her BIG soldering iron once, she grabbed for it right on the business end, got a bad hand burn. As for replaceing components, I cut the old one off, heat the joint, shove a dentist pick through it and use the hole for the new component. Ken Steven wrote: > Gary Tayman wrote: > >>Here's a subject that is bound to stir up a little conversation . . . >> >>Since we deal mainly with hand-wired components, just how do you >>replace/resolder them? >> >>Personally I'm amazed at how the original wiring gets there in the first >>place, in some instances. For example, take a typical lug on a typical >>terminal strip. There is a capacitor wired to it, two resistors, and three >>wires. To undo the capacitor I heat the lug, then poke it with a jeweler's >>screwdriver to work the capacitor lead loose. I work SOMETHING loose, turns >>out to be one of the wires, and it gets rather frayed, so in the name of >>neatness I pull all the components and resolder. So I continue to unwrap, >>and unwrap, and unwrap, until I finally get the wire off -- with 2 1/2 >>inches of bare wire that was wrapped. Next wire, same thing. Ditto with >>the third, and the resistor, and the capacitor. By the time the lug is >>cleaned, there is so much bare wire it's unbelievable how it got assembled >>that way to start with! >> >>So I install a new capacitor. I reinstall the resistor by cutting the lead >>off and wrapping it only once. Same with each wire. Although it looks nice >>and neat, it still makes for a larger blob than what was there originally. >> >>In my experience with car radios, Bendix is the worst when it comes to >>excess. I just rebuilt a 50 Ford radio, and upon replacing the electrolytic >>I removed a 2 watt resistor. Carefully unraveling the leads, I managed to >>remove it intact. I straightened out the leads, and it's as though I could >>put it back in the bin -- the leads were full length and uncut! What, are >>they allergic to dykes? In contrast a lot of 60's Delcos are done by poking >>a wire through a hole and hitting it with solder. It's so easy to strip a >>volume control; just hit it with the soldering iron and the wires fall off! >> >>I know some people don't bother to remove the old leads at all; just solder >>over them. Others will cut off the leads of the original, hook the ends, >>hook the leads of the replacement, hook them together and solder. I've done >>this, but only in cases where it's nearly impossible to reach the solder >>post without major disassembly. >> >>I'm open to your comments. > > > > Little tiny women with better hands than yours, lousy pay and great > motivation made them 70 years ago. Give up : p > >>-- >>Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >>Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >>http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > Article: 339413 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Soldering techniques Date: 11 Aug 2006 05:55:02 -0700 Message-ID: <1155300902.787861.183610@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <2BZCg.73406$Qu4.13354@trnddc04> Ken wrote: > In the 60's I was a supplier on a GE mobile radio hand wiring assembly > line. The line would start out slow in the morning, and every so often > the foreman would sneak to the end of the line and turn up the speed. > Each woman on the line had two or three things to do, and they had it > down to a science. Talk about repeatability, they were right on every > time. But I did see a few just freak out from the pressure, they were > pushed to the limit. I saw one woman drop her BIG soldering iron once, > she grabbed for it right on the business end, got a bad hand burn. > As for replaceing components, I cut the old one off, heat the joint, > shove a dentist pick through it and use the hole for the new component. > Ken Boy, you just took all the fun out of it ;-ppp Article: 339414 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1155263547.763931.264130@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1155264850.639134.197650@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1155290001.083907.22940@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Need Phonograph Help Message-ID: <9c%Cg.34738$sY1.263457@weber.videotron.net> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 09:00:54 -0400 wrote in message news:1155290001.083907.22940@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > AB9GO wrote: >> You need to touch the wire going to the cartridge, not the needle. If >> you get a loud hum, the cartridge is bad. Make sure that you are NOT >> gounded! If it is the original cartridge it is almost 100% sure to be >> bad. Even an almost dead cartridge will have enough output to make >> some noise when you rub the finger across the needle! > > I find the opposite is usually true: when I have a bad cartridge, and > the wires are connected to it, I get no hum touching the hot lead. This may happen if there is a short inside the cartridge after the crystal became defective and expanded, sometimes exposing the ribbon contacts and causing a short on the cartridge's body. > When the cartridge is still good, I get the hum if I touch the hot > lead. I also get the hum from the hot lead when there is no cartrige > connected. This is what I recommend to rule out possible amp problems. It is a crude test but at least one can tell if the amp is working. > But you are right - I've had some that were just about dead > still put out some faint sound at a very low volume. I've seen NOS cartridges play for one or two records then self destruct. They all do. Once the crystal starts flexing, it starts cracking and simply disintegrates > Of course, that applies to the crystal cartridges. Some of my customers bought NOS cartridges from reputable sellers and the cartridges were all bad. I do not recommend buying NOS cartridges (crystal) and even some ceramic cartridges. Although ceramic rarely go bad, the contacts inside the cartridge and the silver coating on the element oxydize to a point where the cartridge becomes inoperative. 10% of my total restorations are ceramic cartridges. Many are impossible to find, even NOS. > One even seems to be leaking some sort of fluid, kind of like grease. This is lanolin. They used that stuff in many 45 cartridges to dampen the element and somewhat protect the element (that is a side effect). The damping helps lower the surface noise and also creates a mechanical "equalizer", damping the high frequencies. > They can be rebuilt using parts from a modern cartridge, such as a > Ronette, but that is > tricky and delicate to do. There are a few places on the web that will > rebuild them for you. I have the whole process described in 6 lessons on my website: http://www.oldradioz.com/forum. > You can use a more modern cartridge, even a stereo > one wired for mono if you want. Modern cartridges, using ceramic elements only put out about 0.4 to 0.7V, so many 45 players will not work properly with such low output. They work on three tubes and more players. Syl Article: 339415 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: (De)soldering techniques Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 06:47:13 -0700 Message-ID: <7063-44DC8A61-25@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: <1155300902.787861.183610@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Gary: Here's a method that works amazingly well for desoldering those lugs wrapped with a half dozen leads. Start with a very large pair of dikes (not dykes Subject: Re: Capacitors with braid for leads? Date: 11 Aug 2006 07:00:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1155304800.596477.239490@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: Those braided-lead capacitors leads are supposed to provide lower inductance than the standard wire leads. Modern caps are much smaller overall and have lower inductance than the old style paper caps. I have replaced the braided-lead caps with modern Mylar caps without any problems. Just keep the leads short and they work fine. Article: 339417 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: (De)soldering techniques Date: 11 Aug 2006 07:16:23 -0700 Message-ID: <1155305783.869268.287580@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1155300902.787861.183610@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> This is a great topic, and I've always had questions. I replace most caps by pigtailing using my Bill Turner tool, rather than 'hooking'. But there are always those ones that you have to clean off the lug. I have a solder sucker, the plunger type, that I use first to remove as much solder as I can so I can see what I'm doing. I always remove fragments of wire from the lug to be neat, using a hemostat. I have curved and straight ones. Showing my ignorance here, but... 1) What are dikes? 2) How the heck (and when) do you use solder braid? I can never get solder to go up into it. Do you put it on the work and put the iron on top of it, or what? It seems like a pain to use the stuff but maybe I'm using it wrong. I prefer my solder sucker. Can you tell I didn't come into this through electronics school? Tox Article: 339418 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Boycott Gettysburg Date: 11 Aug 2006 07:19:49 -0700 Message-ID: <1155305989.392086.35450@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <3898f$44da1205$d1cc7ca5$3619@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> Steven wrote: > RadioGary wrote: > > Steven wrote: > > > RadioGary wrote: > > > > I have this Philco with a power supply > > > > problem...............and...............and. > > > > > > ZO! Tell ushzabout your Philllcoe, Herr Gahree! > > > > Anti semetic perhaps? What drugs are you on anyway? > > Stupid German psychiatrist accent. > > What pills are YOU on, Gary? Oh, zo zorry, I needs more Malox Article: 339419 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 1000+ radio collection for sale in Tampa From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <9qadnQLYBJFNB0bZnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@giganews.com> Message-ID: <4y0Dg.129706$1i1.22531@attbi_s72> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 14:32:32 GMT In article <9qadnQLYBJFNB0bZnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@giganews.com>, philnelson@nospam.xyz says... > > >This guy's name is Bill. Says he is helping a friend who owns the >collection. > >Phil > The guy has way too much money invested in that huge pile of mostly plastics and bakelites and bad condition old radios.. also has very unrealistic thoughts of what he thinks he will get for them... a couple of my friends looked the pile over... John k9uwa Article: 339420 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Boycott Gettysburg Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 09:38:58 -0500 Message-ID: <3701-44DC9682-44@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1155297889.264107.73470@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Years ago I drove a bread truck for Sunbeam Bakery.Sometimes on my route I used to see an elderly couple riding along Higway 80 in their old pickup truck.On the front bumper was a home made sign that said Giddy Up Go.On the pickup truck's rear bumper was a home made sign that said We Just Went. cuhulin Article: 339421 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1155300902.787861.183610@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7063-44DC8A61-25@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> <1155305783.869268.287580@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: (De)soldering techniques Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 10:04:27 -0500 Message-ID: <44dc8f4c$0$509$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1155305783.869268.287580@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Showing my ignorance here, but... > > 1) What are dikes? Diagonal cutters. > 2) How the heck (and when) do you use solder braid? I can never get > solder to go up into it. Do you put it on the work and put the iron on > top of it, or what? It seems like a pain to use the stuff but maybe > I'm using it wrong. I prefer my solder sucker. Between your iron and the work. You have to get the braid hot enough to melt the solder. If you don't get enough heat conduction you can melt a little solder on the iron side. Radio Shack braid is meant for working on circuit boards. You'd have to find some really big braid to work on lugs. I think people disassemble old coax cable to get it. Personally I just use my 12" soldapullt. The little 7" Radio Shack soldapullt is, again, too small for working on lugs. -p -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 339422 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: chillin'@home.net (Way Back Jack) Subject: Re: FA: huge lot of (1000) 78rpm shellac records- old 1900-1955 era Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:25:15 GMT Message-ID: <44dca12f.17624828@free.teranews.com> References: <1155208587.493713.100000@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44dc67f0$0$4526$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <44dc6de0.4410718@free.teranews.com> <1155297526.103734.281370@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44dc7833.7054156@free.teranews.com> <1155299887.983090.204420@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 11 Aug 2006 05:38:08 -0700, "Steven" wrote: > >Let It Rock wrote: > >> On 11 Aug 2006 04:58:46 -0700, "Steven" wrote: >> Canuck? That's almost as bad as calling me a whigger. >> >> Akmed'll straighten you Euro-twits, Hans. 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You gotz da wronnnnnng cat, Hans. Dumbass. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 339423 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: szekeres@pitt.edu (GregS) Subject: Re: (De)soldering techniques Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:32:33 GMT Message-ID: References: <1155300902.787861.183610@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7063-44DC8A61-25@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> <1155305783.869268.287580@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44dc8f4c$0$509$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> In article <44dc8f4c$0$509$88260bb3@free.teranews.com>, "Paul Dietenberger" wrote: >"toxcrusadr" wrote in message >news:1155305783.869268.287580@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> Showing my ignorance here, but... >> >> 1) What are dikes? > >Diagonal cutters. > >> 2) How the heck (and when) do you use solder braid? I can never get >> solder to go up into it. Do you put it on the work and put the iron on >> top of it, or what? It seems like a pain to use the stuff but maybe >> I'm using it wrong. I prefer my solder sucker. Old braid will not work well. By or make some liquid flux and apply it to the braid and, or, work. A liquid flux pen is extremly necessary at times. greg >Between your iron and the work. You have to get the braid hot enough to melt >the solder. If you don't get enough heat conduction you can melt a little >solder on the iron side. >Radio Shack braid is meant for working on circuit boards. You'd have to find >some really big braid to work on lugs. I think people disassemble old coax >cable to get it. Personally I just use my 12" soldapullt. The little 7" >Radio Shack soldapullt is, again, too small for working on lugs. > >-p > > > Article: 339424 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1155224161.038123.139010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <07mmd25v5c15atknurm6jc981efeandnk7@4ax.com> <1155235346.034952.275500@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155235581.902921.251440@q16g2000cwq.googlegroups.com> <1155296172.850779.205080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1155296455.937200.322830@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <7A1Dg.12171$Ta6.5157@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:42:59 GMT Steven wrote: > Shut the fucking door, bitch! We got air conditioning in here. And you wonder why nobody gives you any credit at all. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 339425 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: camerama Subject: Re: FA: huge lot of (1000) 78rpm shellac records- old 1900-1955 era Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 14:18:43 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1155208587.493713.100000@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44dc67f0$0$4526$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <44dc6de0.4410718@free.teranews.com> Indeed we're not - but if you want some goods cheep and do not ask questions come to Holland. But we like to stay well clear from English and American war-criminals! Jodocu > > You criminal-friendly Dutchies with drug addicts and 'hos lying on the > sidewalk aren't going to be upset with a little Internet fraud, eh. > > > > > Article: 339426 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Soldering techniques From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <2BZCg.73406$Qu4.13354@trnddc04> <1155297031.047860.323640@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <3M1Dg.129854$1i1.30796@attbi_s72> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:55:43 GMT In article , wklwns@cox.net says... > > > As for replaceing components, I cut the old one off, heat the joint, >shove a dentist pick through it and use the hole for the new component. >Ken about 90% of the time I remove the old lead.. and in many cases a couple other extra leads from the capacitor being replaced a couple times before.. install my new part.. get rid of all the excess wraps.. when I am finished it looks a whole lot neater.. good solder joints start with a good mechanical joint.. John k9uwa Article: 339427 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nesesu" Subject: Re: Capacitors with braid for leads? Date: 11 Aug 2006 09:09:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1155312550.045352.157560@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: Ed is correct in his comment, Dave. When I was rebuilding the caps for the Halli SX-43 I am restoring, it has one of those style caps on the AVC, but the leads total about 5" length with the cap above the chassis and the 'ground' end soldered to the main tuning cap frame and the other end to the AVC on the RF coil pack; very long leads indeed ! This is a case where one should not mess with the connection points since they set it up like this for some reason [much shorter would have been much easier at the factory]. When I dismantled the original cap, it was a coventional extended foil roll, but instead of a lead spiral welded into the crimped foil on each end, the tip of the braid was bent at right angles and soldred into the foil. For the replacement I simply pierced a small hole in the braid tab and slipped the braid tab over the cap lead tight to the body end then bent the lead over on the tab and soldered it. I then slipped the assembly back into the original cap case and refilled it like any 'regular' paper cap. For RF bypass caps in a car radio, they are usually from chassis to somewhere so just keep the leads very short. When I was working as an EMC test engineer I always harangued the designers with my 1cm rule: "Any RF bypass capacitor must have a lead length of less than 1cm TOTAL [including PCB traces] to be effective." If you substitute a 1/4" wide copper strip for the lead starting at the case, you can go up to about 1.5" total and still be effective. Neil S. Dave McClellan wrote: > I have noticed that in 6 volt DC radios, often capacitors which bypass the 6 > volt DC lines (in the range of .5 mfd) often have what looks like thick > shield braid for leads, as if they need to carry heavy current. These are > like the braids used to ground tuning capacitors to the chassis. Just > curious why the thick leads? Also, I leave most of these alone if not VERY > leaky or shorted (rare). But what would one replace one of these with? A > standard .47 etc yellow tubular? > > Thanks! > Dave Article: 339428 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44DCAC52.C24A5C0A@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Boycott Gettysburg References: <3898f$44da1205$d1cc7ca5$3619@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:12:16 GMT RadioGary wrote: > > Steven wrote: > > RadioGary wrote: > > > I have this Philco with a power supply > > > problem...............and...............and. > > > > ZO! Tell ushzabout your Philllcoe, Herr Gahree! > > Anti semetic perhaps? What drugs are you on anyway? His favorite. Honest to God, home grown stupidity. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 339429 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nesesu" Subject: Re: Soldering techniques Date: 11 Aug 2006 09:41:07 -0700 Message-ID: <1155314467.079108.17450@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <2BZCg.73406$Qu4.13354@trnddc04> I do basically all the things you and the other posters have mentioned, depending on the maker of what I am working on and what the situation is on the particular connection. If safe to do so, I remove the old lead and clean up the lug. If not I try and poke a hole to thread the new lead through. If I cannot do that, I wrap it around and solder. If there is lots of room, I generally wrap about 270 degrees before soldering, but where I poke a hole I usually just poke the lead through and solder. I try to never clip and slip the new lead over the old unless the terminal is inaccessable or too risky to mess with. No one has mentioned the problem with 'almost petrified' rubber wire. Naturally, one does not disturb that if at all possible when cleaning the terminals, so that affects the method used. On RCA/GE/Westighouse radios of the mid to later '30s they used a wafer tube socket with a 'forked' tab having a slot between two front fingers and a back finger and the leads were dropped into the slot and soldered. Simple, easy to work on NOT! The brass on these is often crystallized and they break at the slightest strain, so great caution is needed on these. If you have ever done any number of 'hand wired' Heathkits, Gary, you find that using new wire and new components on new sockets and terminal strips is a whole lot easier and neater than to try and rework something that has been soldered. Also, lead clipping is very costly in manufacturing, so in volume production, most everything is precut and they wrap it all around the terminal. Neil S. Gary Tayman wrote: > Here's a subject that is bound to stir up a little conversation . . . > > Since we deal mainly with hand-wired components, just how do you > replace/resolder them? > > Personally I'm amazed at how the original wiring gets there in the first > place, in some instances. For example, take a typical lug on a typical > terminal strip. There is a capacitor wired to it, two resistors, and three > wires. To undo the capacitor I heat the lug, then poke it with a jeweler's > screwdriver to work the capacitor lead loose. I work SOMETHING loose, turns > out to be one of the wires, and it gets rather frayed, so in the name of > neatness I pull all the components and resolder. So I continue to unwrap, > and unwrap, and unwrap, until I finally get the wire off -- with 2 1/2 > inches of bare wire that was wrapped. Next wire, same thing. Ditto with > the third, and the resistor, and the capacitor. By the time the lug is > cleaned, there is so much bare wire it's unbelievable how it got assembled > that way to start with! > > So I install a new capacitor. I reinstall the resistor by cutting the lead > off and wrapping it only once. Same with each wire. Although it looks nice > and neat, it still makes for a larger blob than what was there originally. > > In my experience with car radios, Bendix is the worst when it comes to > excess. I just rebuilt a 50 Ford radio, and upon replacing the electrolytic > I removed a 2 watt resistor. Carefully unraveling the leads, I managed to > remove it intact. I straightened out the leads, and it's as though I could > put it back in the bin -- the leads were full length and uncut! What, are > they allergic to dykes? In contrast a lot of 60's Delcos are done by poking > a wire through a hole and hitting it with solder. It's so easy to strip a > volume control; just hit it with the soldering iron and the wires fall off! > > I know some people don't bother to remove the old leads at all; just solder > over them. Others will cut off the leads of the original, hook the ends, > hook the leads of the replacement, hook them together and solder. I've done > this, but only in cases where it's nearly impossible to reach the solder > post without major disassembly. > > I'm open to your comments. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 339430 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: TO 3000-1 Help please. Date: 11 Aug 2006 09:52:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1155315138.660551.146880@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Incredible. Thanks so much for the information. Now for a super weekend project. Thanks Brenda. Brenda Ann wrote: > "RadioGary" wrote in message > news:1155263739.543405.152580@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > Phil and Company, > > > > Is there any documentation on how to disassemble a 3000 somewhere on > > the net? Like yourself I have one I bought for a song at a flea market > > some time ago, but it's woes lie in dirty connections and so forth. > > Would love to get it going again, but what a pain in the axx it seems > > like to get it out of the case for total chassis overhaul. > > > > Any information would be appreciated by me, and the good person who > > started this subject. > > > > > > http://www.antiqueradios.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=55216&highlight=&sid=43852c908d8b5cab4ac23eb4c52f1082 Article: 339431 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1155300902.787861.183610@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7063-44DC8A61-25@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> <1155305783.869268.287580@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44dc8f4c$0$509$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Subject: Re: (De)soldering techniques Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:34:21 GMT "GregS" wrote in message news:ebi7ur$c9i$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu... > >> >>> 2) How the heck (and when) do you use solder braid? I can never get >>> solder to go up into it. Do you put it on the work and put the iron on >>> top of it, or what? It seems like a pain to use the stuff but maybe >>> I'm using it wrong. I prefer my solder sucker. > > Old braid will not work well. By or make some liquid flux and apply it to the braid > and, or, work. A liquid flux pen is extremly necessary at times. > > > greg > Agreed, Greg. Most solder braid is fairly ineffective without the use of flux. Adding the flux (I use the paste type in the old tins) makes the solder flow rapidly leaving a nearly solder-free connection. Trying it without flux will not attract the solder, and will require leaving the hot iron on the connection for a long time, while accomplishing nothing. jim menning Article: 339432 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <9qadnQLYBJFNB0bZnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@giganews.com> <4y0Dg.129706$1i1.22531@attbi_s72> Subject: Re: 1000+ radio collection for sale in Tampa Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 10:39:55 -0700 Message-ID: > The guy has way too much money invested in that huge pile of mostly > plastics and bakelites and bad condition old radios. That kind of person I call a hoarder rather than a collector :-) Phil Nelson Article: 339433 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: TO 3000-1 Help please. Date: 11 Aug 2006 10:52:19 -0700 Message-ID: <1155318739.142555.293690@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: RadioGary wrote: > Incredible. Thanks so much for the information. Now for a super > weekend project. Thanks Brenda. While you are at it *VERY CAREFULLY* pull each transistor *ONE AT A TIME* and clean the pins and the socket. A non-residue contact cleaner would do well here. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 339434 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "L." References: <1155300902.787861.183610@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7063-44DC8A61-25@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> <1155305783.869268.287580@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44dc8f4c$0$509$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Subject: Re: (De)soldering techniques Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 14:18:07 -0400 Message-ID: <44dcc9c7$0$6599$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "jim menning" wrote in message news:xc3Dg.18915$Nt2.5197@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "GregS" wrote in message > news:ebi7ur$c9i$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu... >> >>> >>>> 2) How the heck (and when) do you use solder braid? I can never get >>>> solder to go up into it. Do you put it on the work and put the iron on >>>> top of it, or what? It seems like a pain to use the stuff but maybe >>>> I'm using it wrong. I prefer my solder sucker. >> >> Old braid will not work well. By or make some liquid flux and apply it to >> the braid >> and, or, work. A liquid flux pen is extremly necessary at times. >> >> >> greg >> > > Agreed, Greg. Most solder braid is fairly ineffective without the use of > flux. Adding the flux (I use the paste type in the old tins) makes the > solder flow rapidly leaving a nearly solder-free connection. Trying it > without flux will not attract the solder, and will require leaving the hot > iron on the connection for a long time, while accomplishing nothing. > > jim menning > I tend to disagree.................. to a point. Whatever method works for you with braid is your thing. Personally, I've had braid that sucked (figureatively) - as it wouldn't do a damned thing......... It was lousy. I could place it on solder and hold the heat there for 5 minutes and not a damned thing happened. Then I bought some other "brand" which I couldn't be happier with - "it" sucks (doing its job) solder right up - and quickly. I find the "thinner" stuff is best and quickest. So, you guys "may" have gotten a hold of some lousy stuff. The "last" time "I" had to use "flux" was to try to solder some older "cloth type" wire of a microphone cable - to a connector. That was a pain in the ass. I finally figured out a good way to do it - less painfully. I've never had to use flux with the braid I had luck with. Never tried it with the bad stuff, it may have helped - but I tossed that garbage where it belongs - in the garbage. There are so called "prescribed" methods of (de)soldering - but not all always apply in any one case. Depends on the parts, how installed, room in which to work, etc. Experience also helps! When new and green at it - sometimes even the best method doesn't work so well the first time around. That is where practice comes in. The way I look at it, you use whatever method fits the occasion. IF you can do the job without any more damage - no matter how you do it, then you've done ok. Solder suckers work well too. I have the bulb type which tends to plug up rather easily, but not as much as that damned syringe type model. The latter was ok for its time - but a pain in the ass at times. Its easier to squeeze a bulb in your palm than to have to cock and reload the syringe type. I use braid for small stuff and the bulb for the larger stuff. Lou Article: 339435 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1155300902.787861.183610@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7063-44DC8A61-25@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> <1155305783.869268.287580@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44dc8f4c$0$509$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Subject: Re: (De)soldering techniques Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 19:05:22 GMT Braid specifically meant for this purpose is sold under the name "Soder-Wick". It works great and comes in a variety of sizes, but it's pricey (about $.60 per foot). -- Mike Schultz "jim menning" wrote in message news:xc3Dg.18915$Nt2.5197@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "GregS" wrote in message > news:ebi7ur$c9i$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu... >> >>> >>>> 2) How the heck (and when) do you use solder braid? I can never get >>>> solder to go up into it. Do you put it on the work and put the iron on >>>> top of it, or what? It seems like a pain to use the stuff but maybe >>>> I'm using it wrong. I prefer my solder sucker. >> >> Old braid will not work well. By or make some liquid flux and apply it to >> the braid >> and, or, work. A liquid flux pen is extremly necessary at times. >> >> >> greg >> > > Agreed, Greg. Most solder braid is fairly ineffective without the use of > flux. Adding the flux (I use the paste type in the old tins) makes the > solder flow rapidly leaving a nearly solder-free connection. Trying it > without flux will not attract the solder, and will require leaving the hot > iron on the connection for a long time, while accomplishing nothing. > > jim menning > > > Article: 339436 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Boycott Gettysburg Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 13:02:35 -0500 Message-ID: <29710-44DCD44B-86@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <44DCAC52.C24A5C0A@earthlink.net> Now look out Florida,I know you can't honestly say that about us Mississippi Coon Asses. cuhulin Article: 339437 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Lets Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 14:05:14 -0500 Message-ID: <29710-44DCD4EA-88@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> me reach and crank up the bolume.Bonanza,,, guest star,Edward Buchanan. cuhulin Article: 339438 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: (De)soldering techniques Date: 11 Aug 2006 12:20:57 -0700 Message-ID: <1155324057.852846.149230@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1155300902.787861.183610@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> L. wrote: Personally, I've had braid that sucked > (figureatively) - as it wouldn't do a damned thing......... It was lousy. I > could place it on solder and hold the heat there for 5 minutes and not a > damned thing happened. Then I bought some other "brand" which I couldn't be > happier with - "it" sucks (doing its job) solder right up - and quickly. I > find the "thinner" stuff is best and quickest. So, you guys "may" have > gotten a hold of some lousy stuff. The > "last" time "I" had to use "flux" was to try to solder some older "cloth > type" wire of a microphone cable - to a connector. That was a pain in the > ass. I finally figured out a good way to do it - less painfully. I've never > had to use flux with the braid I had luck with. Never tried it with the bad > stuff, it may have helped - but I tossed that garbage where it belongs - in > the garbage. > > Lou Maybe the stuff that worked came already coated with flux, and other stuff wasn't. Tox Article: 339439 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: 11 Aug 2006 12:25:57 -0700 Message-ID: <1155324357.816580.16750@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> RadioGary wrote: > > I have this old Philco radio model 37-650 with an interesting very > > intermittent hum in the background. Are you familiar with this set and > > can you use your expertise in telling me where to check first? > > > > Or do you know anything about old radios, repair, and collecting? Bwaahaahaahaaaaa! Nice! You brightened up my day. Tox Article: 339440 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "L." References: <1155300902.787861.183610@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7063-44DC8A61-25@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> <1155305783.869268.287580@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44dc8f4c$0$509$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44dcc9c7$0$6599$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <1155324057.852846.149230@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: (De)soldering techniques Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:28:32 -0400 Message-ID: <44dcda49$0$6593$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1155324057.852846.149230@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > L. wrote: > Personally, I've had braid that sucked >> (figureatively) - as it wouldn't do a damned thing......... It was lousy. >> I >> could place it on solder and hold the heat there for 5 minutes and not a >> damned thing happened. Then I bought some other "brand" which I couldn't >> be >> happier with - "it" sucks (doing its job) solder right up - and quickly. >> I >> find the "thinner" stuff is best and quickest. So, you guys "may" have >> gotten a hold of some lousy stuff. The >> "last" time "I" had to use "flux" was to try to solder some older "cloth >> type" wire of a microphone cable - to a connector. That was a pain in the >> ass. I finally figured out a good way to do it - less painfully. I've >> never >> had to use flux with the braid I had luck with. Never tried it with the >> bad >> stuff, it may have helped - but I tossed that garbage where it belongs - >> in >> the garbage. >> >> Lou > > Maybe the stuff that worked came already coated with flux, and other > stuff wasn't. > > Tox > I don't think so, but would have to look to be sure. It didn't "appear" to be. But still - some brand I had tried didn't do a damned thing - this works beautifully. To be honest though - the stuff that "didn't" work appeared more to be coated than this stuff. This stuff is nice and shiny like coax braid - but very tightly woven. The poor stuff was "dull" in color. So, I'd say "it" "may" have been coated. Whatever the case - I use the thin stuff and had to do nothing extra with it. Works like a charm! Lou Article: 339441 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44dce21b$0$4517$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: FA: huge lot of (1000) 78rpm shellac records- old 1900-1955 era References: <1155208587.493713.100000@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44dc67f0$0$4526$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <1155295904.442213.218370@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Date: 11 Aug 2006 20:01:31 GMT In rec.antiques.radio+phono duty-honor-country wrote: > he obviously has absolutely nothing better to do in his life- and he's > not mentally stable. That goes for you as well. Hoping both of you will get a clue anytime soon and leave, I will further refrain from feeding the trolls for now. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 339442 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Avery W3AVE" Subject: Re: (De)soldering techniques Date: 11 Aug 2006 13:02:50 -0700 Message-ID: <1155326570.850917.237420@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1155300902.787861.183610@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> jim menning wrote: > Agreed, Greg. Most solder braid is fairly ineffective without the use of flux. > Adding the flux (I use the paste type in the old tins) makes the solder flow rapidly > leaving a nearly solder-free connection. Trying it without flux will not attract the > solder, and will require leaving the hot iron on the connection for a long time, > while accomplishing nothing. > > jim menning Is paste flux meant for electronic use sold at retail anywhere, or do you have to order it from Mouser or whoever? Article: 339443 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "L." References: <1155300902.787861.183610@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7063-44DC8A61-25@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> <1155305783.869268.287580@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44dc8f4c$0$509$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1155326570.850917.237420@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: (De)soldering techniques Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 16:11:00 -0400 Message-ID: <44dce43c$0$6595$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "Avery W3AVE" wrote in message news:1155326570.850917.237420@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > jim menning wrote: > >> Agreed, Greg. Most solder braid is fairly ineffective without the use of >> flux. >> Adding the flux (I use the paste type in the old tins) makes the solder >> flow rapidly >> leaving a nearly solder-free connection. Trying it without flux will not >> attract the >> solder, and will require leaving the hot iron on the connection for a >> long time, >> while accomplishing nothing. >> >> jim menning > > Is paste flux meant for electronic use sold at retail anywhere, or do > you have to order it from Mouser or whoever? > I could swear - I've seen it sold at Radio Shack and some places which "usually" sell Solder equipment of any sort. Lou Article: 339444 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:58:13 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1155224161.038123.139010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <07mmd25v5c15atknurm6jc981efeandnk7@4ax.com> <1155235346.034952.275500@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On 10 Aug 2006 11:42:26 -0700, "RadioGary" wrote: >Desertputz, > >I have this old Philco radio model 37-650 with an interesting very >intermittent hum in the background. "Interesting" hum? Are you such a dim bulb that you cannot check for B+ ripple yourself? >Are you familiar with this set and >can you use your expertise in telling me where to check first? I have ONE "old radio," a Philco Transitone circa 1949. The quad section cap gave me an "intermittant" hum many years ago, and replacing it with a new quad 'lytic cleaned it up nicely. As for your 37-650, you obviously know more about THAT set than I do. So, keep your taunts and attitude to yourself, while I butcher Noodles some more. Article: 339445 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:58:44 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1155224161.038123.139010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <07mmd25v5c15atknurm6jc981efeandnk7@4ax.com> <1155235346.034952.275500@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155235581.902921.251440@q16g2000cwq.googlegroups.com> On 10 Aug 2006 11:46:21 -0700, "RadioGary" wrote: >Desertguy, > >I'm sorry for the last commentary that may have inadvertentaly asked >you about your knowledge of the prime subject of this newsgroup, >antique radio collecting. You obviously know nothing. Dear Radio Gary: Go fuck yourself. Sincerely, DeserTBoB Article: 339446 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 12:59:23 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1155224161.038123.139010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <07mmd25v5c15atknurm6jc981efeandnk7@4ax.com> <1155235346.034952.275500@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155235581.902921.251440@q16g2000cwq.googlegroups.com> <1155296172.850779.205080@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> On 11 Aug 2006 04:36:12 -0700, "duty-honor-country" wrote: >(laughter...) wow, talk about a 1-2 punch, DESERTBOB bites dust ! Hey Noodles! When are you going to try to "fraudBay" that rusted up/butchered 500C again? Article: 339447 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: (De)soldering techniques Date: 11 Aug 2006 14:02:28 -0700 Message-ID: <1155330148.673334.52200@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1155300902.787861.183610@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> L. wrote: This stuff is nice and shiny > like coax braid - but very tightly woven. The poor stuff was "dull" in > color. So, I'd say "it" "may" have been coated. > > Lou Perhaps the dull braid was un-fluxed, thus open to the air, and was oxidized. That oxide coating would not be expected to take solder well. It seems to me that soaking up solder with braid is much like soldering wires. If they're oxidized and no flux available, the wire will not be wetted with solder no matter how hot you get it. Your dull braid may have worked with some flux on it. But I'm a braid newbie, so YMMV. Tox Article: 339448 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: 1000+ radio collection for sale in Tampa Date: 11 Aug 2006 14:08:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1155330481.479359.151570@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: So he's looking to sell the whole lot for one money? yiikes. Tox Article: 339449 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: KUTZTOWN SEPT 22-23 who's going? Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 17:53:46 -0400 Message-ID: <12dpv3bnfcok943@corp.supernews.com> References: <1155259735.216056.264310@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <12dno96q4brvh0c@corp.supernews.com> <1155298319.770950.110690@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Avery W3AVE" wrote in message news:1155298319.770950.110690@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > . > > Thanks. I'll try to talk my wife into staying over. > What I would do in your case is stay in Allentown or nearby as there are many more choices and somewhat better motels than in Kutztown. For example- http://www.choicehotels.com/ires/en-US/html/HotelInfo?sid=Oe5vg.pCKHMgQqN.5&hotel=PA068&sarea=84933&sname=Allentown http://www.motel6-pottstown-pa.com/ John H. Article: 339450 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gerald D. Pine" Subject: Re: Need Phonograph Help Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 15:35:39 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1155263547.763931.264130@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Another option should you decide that you need a new cartridge is to purchase a cartridge with an adapter made for the old RCA 45 players >from Willie Bosco. I've purchased a cartridge, new diamond stylus, and idler wheel from him and have been very happy with service and product. Here's the link to a current ebay auction of his. http://cgi.ebay.com/CARTRIDGE-FOR-RCA-45-PHONOGRAPH-RECORD-PLAYER_W0QQitemZ120018865920QQihZ002QQcategoryZ1442QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem On Thu, 10 Aug 2006 19:32:27 -0700, Gary B wrote: > I'm working on an RCA portable record player. It's model 6-EY-3A form > 1956. It has very low volume. I've recapped, replaced the selenium > rectifier with a diode and resistor, checked all the resistors, checked my > voltages and resistances, but still no improvement. The output > transformer has approximately 300 ohms across it with no apparent shorts. > My first thought was the cartridge, but I read that if you run your finger > across the needle, and hear sound, it's not the cartridge. I sure could > use some help - please - please - please. > > Gary B -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 339451 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Knight Kit vintage resistors Message-ID: <0a2qd2t01tie6i5lsmvag8kalvtt5lq8se@4ax.com> References: <1154711379.062196.94830@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44d4a2a9$0$4531$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <44d5d382$0$4530$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <44d71ac9$0$4520$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:49:24 GMT On 07 Aug 2006 10:49:45 GMT, maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl wrote: >Frank Dresser wrote: >> wrote in message >>> Frank Dresser wrote: >>> > Some googling reveals that the mustard caps have been cloned: >>> Only the insides. I am guessing they are being made by Iskra to Sozo >>> specifications. >> Sozo claims the capacitors are "Hand Made in the U.S.A. !" > >So, why do they look EXACTLY like some (East-)European capacitors that I >have here? Nothing wrong with those, anyway. I would not trust a hand made >capacitor, by the way. Maarten, Do you have any idea who made these capacitors? http://oldtech.net/tempix/mustardcaps.jpg Article: 339452 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Avery W3AVE" Subject: Re: KUTZTOWN SEPT 22-23 who's going? Date: 11 Aug 2006 16:33:15 -0700 Message-ID: <1155339194.963169.192380@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Hagstar wrote: > What I would do in your case is stay in Allentown or nearby as there are > many more choices and somewhat better motels than in Kutztown. > > For example- > > http://www.choicehotels.com/ires/en-US/html/HotelInfo?sid=Oe5vg.pCKHMgQqN.5&hotel=PA068&sarea=84933&sname=Allentown > > http://www.motel6-pottstown-pa.com/ > > John H. Thanks, John. Article: 339453 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Soldering techniques Date: 11 Aug 2006 17:34:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1155342864.845505.141730@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <2BZCg.73406$Qu4.13354@trnddc04> robert casey wrote: > Gary Tayman wrote: > > > In my experience with car radios, Bendix is the worst when it comes to > > excess. I just rebuilt a 50 Ford radio, and upon replacing the electrolytic > > I removed a 2 watt resistor. Carefully unraveling the leads, I managed to > > remove it intact. I straightened out the leads, and it's as though I could > > put it back in the bin -- the leads were full length and uncut! What, are > > they allergic to dykes? In contrast a lot of 60's Delcos are done by poking > > a wire through a hole and hitting it with solder. It's so easy to strip a > > volume control; just hit it with the soldering iron and the wires fall off! > > > > Bendix may have figured that a car radio sees a lot of vibration and > bouncing around in its life, and didn't think solder alone would hold > the leads to a terminal. Old ARRL handbooks suggest wrapping leads > multiple times in homebrew mobile equipment to increase reliability. Got a lot of that sort. Article: 339454 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: FA: huge lot of (1000) 78rpm shellac records- old 1900-1955 era Date: 11 Aug 2006 17:38:29 -0700 Message-ID: <1155343109.436001.243150@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1155208587.493713.100000@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Chuckie! What are you doing HERE? Article: 339455 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: FA: huge lot of (1000) 78rpm shellac records- old 1900-1955 era Date: 11 Aug 2006 17:41:52 -0700 Message-ID: <1155343312.627488.258730@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1155208587.493713.100000@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> There are no trolls here only less preferential posters. If you want to read fairytales goto the 2eggs group. Article: 339456 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Make A Deal Date: 11 Aug 2006 17:44:17 -0700 Message-ID: <1155343457.346535.269810@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <29710-44DCD4EA-88@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Believe I know that guy. Pat Buchanon's pa? Article: 339457 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Lets Date: 11 Aug 2006 19:10:06 -0700 Message-ID: <1155348606.543279.241210@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <29710-44DCD4EA-88@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Uncle Joe, or Joe Carson on Petticoat Junction. Old cranky guy with a rough voice. cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > me reach and crank up the bolume.Bonanza,,, guest star,Edward Buchanan. > cuhulin Article: 339458 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: 11 Aug 2006 19:12:34 -0700 Message-ID: <1155348754.895203.104250@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Wow, you really don't know what the fxxk you're talking about. OK, just wanted to see if I was arguing with a fellow radio collector or not. Not worth my time, bye bye. DeserTBoB wrote: > On 10 Aug 2006 11:42:26 -0700, "RadioGary" wrote: > > >Desertputz, > > > >I have this old Philco radio model 37-650 with an interesting very > >intermittent hum in the background. > > "Interesting" hum? Are you such a dim bulb that you cannot check for > B+ ripple yourself? > > >Are you familiar with this set and > >can you use your expertise in telling me where to check first? > > I have ONE "old radio," a Philco Transitone circa 1949. The quad > section cap gave me an "intermittant" hum many years ago, and > replacing it with a new quad 'lytic cleaned it up nicely. As for your > 37-650, you obviously know more about THAT set than I do. So, keep > your taunts and attitude to yourself, while I butcher Noodles some > more. Article: 339459 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: (De)soldering techniques References: <1155300902.787861.183610@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7063-44DC8A61-25@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> <1155305783.869268.287580@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44dc8f4c$0$509$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:24:11 -0500 Paul Dietenberger wrote: > "toxcrusadr" wrote in message > news:1155305783.869268.287580@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> Showing my ignorance here, but... >> >> 1) What are dikes? > > Diagonal cutters. > >> 2) How the heck (and when) do you use solder braid? I can never get >> solder to go up into it. Do you put it on the work and put the iron on >> top of it, or what? It seems like a pain to use the stuff but maybe >> I'm using it wrong. I prefer my solder sucker. > > Between your iron and the work. You have to get the braid hot enough to melt > the solder. If you don't get enough heat conduction you can melt a little > solder on the iron side. > Radio Shack braid is meant for working on circuit boards. You'd have to find > some really big braid to work on lugs. I think people disassemble old coax > cable to get it. Personally I just use my 12" soldapullt. The little 7" > Radio Shack soldapullt is, again, too small for working on lugs. > When using the braid, it's also helpful to use some rosin flux as well. I use the paste kind. Heat a bit of braid with your iron, dip it quickly into the paste, then use it to desolder. Snip off the end to expose fressh braid as it becomes saturated. Many swear by liquid flux, but I've never tried it. It apparently bypasses the 'heat the end of the braid' step...just dip and desolder; but after the first joint, the braid is hot anyway. jak > -p > Article: 339460 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: (De)soldering techniques References: <1155300902.787861.183610@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7063-44DC8A61-25@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> <1155305783.869268.287580@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44dc8f4c$0$509$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44dcc9c7$0$6599$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:27:35 -0500 L. wrote: > "jim menning" wrote in message > news:xc3Dg.18915$Nt2.5197@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... >> "GregS" wrote in message >> news:ebi7ur$c9i$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu... >>>>> 2) How the heck (and when) do you use solder braid? I can never get >>>>> solder to go up into it. Do you put it on the work and put the iron on >>>>> top of it, or what? It seems like a pain to use the stuff but maybe >>>>> I'm using it wrong. I prefer my solder sucker. >>> Old braid will not work well. By or make some liquid flux and apply it to >>> the braid >>> and, or, work. A liquid flux pen is extremly necessary at times. >>> >>> >>> greg >>> >> Agreed, Greg. Most solder braid is fairly ineffective without the use of >> flux. Adding the flux (I use the paste type in the old tins) makes the >> solder flow rapidly leaving a nearly solder-free connection. Trying it >> without flux will not attract the solder, and will require leaving the hot >> iron on the connection for a long time, while accomplishing nothing. >> >> jim menning >> > > I tend to disagree.................. to a point. Whatever method works for > you with braid is your thing. Personally, I've had braid that sucked > (figureatively) - as it wouldn't do a damned thing......... It was lousy. I > could place it on solder and hold the heat there for 5 minutes and not a > damned thing happened. Then I bought some other "brand" which I couldn't be > happier with - "it" sucks (doing its job) solder right up - and quickly. I > find the "thinner" stuff is best and quickest. So, you guys "may" have > gotten a hold of some lousy stuff. The > "last" time "I" had to use "flux" was to try to solder some older "cloth > type" wire of a microphone cable - to a connector. That was a pain in the > ass. I finally figured out a good way to do it - less painfully. I've never > had to use flux with the braid I had luck with. Never tried it with the bad > stuff, it may have helped - but I tossed that garbage where it belongs - in > the garbage. > There's a lot of old braid out there. The flux helps. Some (most?) braid is impregnated with flux, but it ages and degrades. Also, old braid--impregnated or not--tends to corrode. That severely degrades it's effectiveness. jak > Lou > > > Article: 339461 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: (De)soldering techniques References: <1155300902.787861.183610@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7063-44DC8A61-25@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> <1155305783.869268.287580@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44dc8f4c$0$509$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1155326570.850917.237420@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <44dce43c$0$6595$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Message-ID: <3ZaDg.905$q96.678@bignews4.bellsouth.net> Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:29:15 -0500 L. wrote: > "Avery W3AVE" wrote in message > news:1155326570.850917.237420@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... >> jim menning wrote: >> >>> Agreed, Greg. Most solder braid is fairly ineffective without the use of >>> flux. >>> Adding the flux (I use the paste type in the old tins) makes the solder >>> flow rapidly >>> leaving a nearly solder-free connection. Trying it without flux will not >>> attract the >>> solder, and will require leaving the hot iron on the connection for a >>> long time, >>> while accomplishing nothing. >>> >>> jim menning >> Is paste flux meant for electronic use sold at retail anywhere, or do >> you have to order it from Mouser or whoever? >> Local hardware store, or Home Depot.... > > I could swear - I've seen it sold at Radio Shack and some places which > "usually" sell Solder equipment of any sort. > Seen it there, too.... jak > Lou > Article: 339462 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "L." References: <1155300902.787861.183610@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7063-44DC8A61-25@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> <1155305783.869268.287580@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44dc8f4c$0$509$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <44dcc9c7$0$6599$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Subject: Re: (De)soldering techniques Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:36:40 -0400 Message-ID: <44dd3ea1$0$6595$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "jakdedert" wrote in message news:vXaDg.904$q96.584@bignews4.bellsouth.net... > L. wrote: >> "jim menning" wrote in message >> news:xc3Dg.18915$Nt2.5197@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... >>> "GregS" wrote in message >>> news:ebi7ur$c9i$1@usenet01.srv.cis.pitt.edu... >>>>>> 2) How the heck (and when) do you use solder braid? I can never get >>>>>> solder to go up into it. Do you put it on the work and put the iron >>>>>> on >>>>>> top of it, or what? It seems like a pain to use the stuff but maybe >>>>>> I'm using it wrong. I prefer my solder sucker. >>>> Old braid will not work well. By or make some liquid flux and apply it >>>> to the braid >>>> and, or, work. A liquid flux pen is extremly necessary at times. >>>> >>>> >>>> greg >>>> >>> Agreed, Greg. Most solder braid is fairly ineffective without the use >>> of flux. Adding the flux (I use the paste type in the old tins) makes >>> the solder flow rapidly leaving a nearly solder-free connection. Trying >>> it without flux will not attract the solder, and will require leaving >>> the hot iron on the connection for a long time, while accomplishing >>> nothing. >>> >>> jim menning >>> >> >> I tend to disagree.................. to a point. Whatever method works >> for you with braid is your thing. Personally, I've had braid that sucked >> (figureatively) - as it wouldn't do a damned thing......... It was lousy. >> I could place it on solder and hold the heat there for 5 minutes and not >> a damned thing happened. Then I bought some other "brand" which I >> couldn't be happier with - "it" sucks (doing its job) solder right up - >> and quickly. I find the "thinner" stuff is best and quickest. So, you >> guys "may" have gotten a hold of some lousy stuff. The >> "last" time "I" had to use "flux" was to try to solder some older "cloth >> type" wire of a microphone cable - to a connector. That was a pain in the >> ass. I finally figured out a good way to do it - less painfully. I've >> never had to use flux with the braid I had luck with. Never tried it with >> the bad stuff, it may have helped - but I tossed that garbage where it >> belongs - in the garbage. >> > > > There's a lot of old braid out there. The flux helps. Some (most?) braid > is impregnated with flux, but it ages and degrades. Also, old > braid--impregnated or not--tends to corrode. That severely degrades it's > effectiveness. > > jak > > >> Lou Well, as I said, I wasn't sure if my stuff had flux in it or not - never paid much attention. I DO know - as was stated, that I had a roll of braid that was garbage and went swiftly into the garbage. Other braids since - have worked like a charm. NO "additional" flux needed - "if" it already has (or not) flux added. The "first" (bad) roll was so poor in action, I almost swore against "braid" for that reason. I thought, if this is how "poor" this crap works, why bother. BUT I bit the bullet and bought another roll and was quickly impressed. Lou Article: 339463 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <2BZCg.73406$Qu4.13354@trnddc04> <1155314467.079108.17450@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Soldering techniques Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 02:53:01 GMT It's obviously been awhile since I've built Heathkits, but I've done my share -- and still have many of them. Lessee, my TV set, audio generator, freq counter . . . gee, is that all I have left? Yes there were a couple of things going for them. First they used solid wire. Just about everything I have around here is stranded -- either the cloth wire, or the wiring used for radio conversions. It's an extra step to tin the wire before installing. Second, there are clear instructions that say, "cut a wire to 3 1/4 inches." No guessing, that wire is the right length. Back to the here and now -- desoldering and resoldering old connections. I gave up on solder wick a long time ago. I've got a desoldering tool which works well but not on these old terminals. A few blobs of 50-year-old solder will render it useless. I often hit a connection with some "new" solder, then pull it away with a (admitted) Radio Shack syringe thing. I've also learned that when recapping, I cut off the leads leaving some lead left on each end. I can then wiggle the cap lead with needle-nose while hitting the joint with the soldering iron. I've found this an easier way to work the lead loose. I then remove it, and quite often the remaining solder will come off with it. Once in awhile I really need to get all the solder off, so I hit it with new solder, pull it off with the syringe tool, replace it with a little new solder, then use the desoldering tool. It's a few extra steps but faster than disassembling the tool. I nearly always remove the old leads before installing a new component. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "nesesu" wrote in message news:1155314467.079108.17450@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... >I do basically all the things you and the other posters have mentioned, > depending on the maker of what I am working on and what the situation > is on the particular connection. > If safe to do so, I remove the old lead and clean up the lug. If not I > try and poke a hole to thread the new lead through. If I cannot do > that, I wrap it around and solder. If there is lots of room, I > generally wrap about 270 degrees before soldering, but where I poke a > hole I usually just poke the lead through and solder. I try to never > clip and slip the new lead over the old unless the terminal is > inaccessable or too risky to mess with. > No one has mentioned the problem with 'almost petrified' rubber wire. > Naturally, one does not disturb that if at all possible when cleaning > the terminals, so that affects the method used. On RCA/GE/Westighouse > radios of the mid to later '30s they used a wafer tube socket with a > 'forked' tab having a slot between two front fingers and a back finger > and the leads were dropped into the slot and soldered. Simple, easy to > work on NOT! > The brass on these is often crystallized and they break at the > slightest strain, so great caution is needed on these. > > If you have ever done any number of 'hand wired' Heathkits, Gary, you > find that using new wire and new components on new sockets and > terminal strips is a whole lot easier and neater than to try and rework > something that has been soldered. Also, lead clipping is very costly in > manufacturing, so in volume production, most everything is precut and > they wrap it all around the terminal. > > Neil S. > > Gary Tayman wrote: >> Here's a subject that is bound to stir up a little conversation . . . >> >> Since we deal mainly with hand-wired components, just how do you >> replace/resolder them? >> >> Personally I'm amazed at how the original wiring gets there in the first >> place, in some instances. For example, take a typical lug on a typical >> terminal strip. There is a capacitor wired to it, two resistors, and >> three >> wires. To undo the capacitor I heat the lug, then poke it with a >> jeweler's >> screwdriver to work the capacitor lead loose. I work SOMETHING loose, >> turns >> out to be one of the wires, and it gets rather frayed, so in the name of >> neatness I pull all the components and resolder. So I continue to >> unwrap, >> and unwrap, and unwrap, until I finally get the wire off -- with 2 1/2 >> inches of bare wire that was wrapped. Next wire, same thing. Ditto with >> the third, and the resistor, and the capacitor. By the time the lug is >> cleaned, there is so much bare wire it's unbelievable how it got >> assembled >> that way to start with! >> >> So I install a new capacitor. I reinstall the resistor by cutting the >> lead >> off and wrapping it only once. Same with each wire. Although it looks >> nice >> and neat, it still makes for a larger blob than what was there >> originally. >> >> In my experience with car radios, Bendix is the worst when it comes to >> excess. I just rebuilt a 50 Ford radio, and upon replacing the >> electrolytic >> I removed a 2 watt resistor. Carefully unraveling the leads, I managed >> to >> remove it intact. I straightened out the leads, and it's as though I >> could >> put it back in the bin -- the leads were full length and uncut! What, >> are >> they allergic to dykes? In contrast a lot of 60's Delcos are done by >> poking >> a wire through a hole and hitting it with solder. It's so easy to strip >> a >> volume control; just hit it with the soldering iron and the wires fall >> off! >> >> I know some people don't bother to remove the old leads at all; just >> solder >> over them. Others will cut off the leads of the original, hook the ends, >> hook the leads of the replacement, hook them together and solder. I've >> done >> this, but only in cases where it's nearly impossible to reach the solder >> post without major disassembly. >> >> I'm open to your comments. >> >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com > Article: 339464 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Sunoco premium 93 octane-KING OF THE ROAD" Subject: Re: NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO AMP-400 WATTS/CHANNEL-$275 Date: 11 Aug 2006 20:08:54 -0700 Message-ID: <1155352134.299595.254380@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> smogchokedLosAngeles wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:L:LCA:US:11&item=140011963547 > > NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO POWER AMP > > FULLY TESTED AND WORKING- NO DEFECTS > > OUTPUT- 100 WATTS PER CHANNEL INTO 8 OHMS > > 200 WATTS PER CHANNEL INTO 6 OHMS > > 400 WATTS PER CHANNEL INTO 4 OHMS > > THIS AMP IS VERY POWERFUL AND LOUD- IF YOU WANT TO KNOCK CHUNKS OF > PLASTER OFF YOUR WALLS, THIS WILL DO IT ! > > DRIVES 2 SPEAKERS, INPUTS FOR LAB/NORMAL, BRIDGING SWITCH, SOFT > CLIPPING SWITCH, POWER ON/OFF BUTTON, SOFT CLIPPING LIGHT, CIRCUIT > PROTECTION LIGHT > > READ ABOUT THE FEATURES OF THIS AMP AT THIS SITE > > http://207.228.230.231/info/NAD_2200.pdf another happy buyer, another positive feedback oh well- face it- you just can't keep a good man down Article: 339465 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Pictures of the project SC-145P skyscraper Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 22:07:58 -0600 Message-ID: <12809-44DD541E-42@storefull-3237.bay.webtv.net> References: I like it .. its different in a good way . The radio part sorta reminds me of an old gas pump . I would like to see the phono too . Article: 339466 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: TO 3000-1 Help please. Date: Fri, 11 Aug 2006 21:23:28 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1155263739.543405.152580@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1155315138.660551.146880@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155318739.142555.293690@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > RadioGary wrote: >> Incredible. Thanks so much for the information. Now for a super >> weekend project. Thanks Brenda. > > While you are at it *VERY CAREFULLY* pull each transistor *ONE AT A > TIME* and clean the pins and the socket. A non-residue contact cleaner > would do well here. This is very good advice..... I once got an R3000 for free from a friend (and I still have it) because it would work for awhile (a few minutes to a few hours) and then die. It drove him nuts and he gave up on it, which is how I got it. It drove ME nuts for awhile, until I got so frustrated that I pulled some of the transistors out of their sockets several times and then put them back in rather forcefully in exasperation. Doing that fixed the problem! Apparently, there was enough oxidation on the socket pins to make less than a stellar mechanical connection to one of the transistors. The act of pulling the transistors out a bunch of times "cleaned" the socket pins. I played it for five days straight after that and it worked like a charm, and continues to do so to the present day. De-Oxit would work better than the above technique and is a lot easier on the transistor leads. -Scott Article: 339467 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "marklare ubir" References: <9qadnQLYBJFNB0bZnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@giganews.com> <4y0Dg.129706$1i1.22531@attbi_s72> <1155330481.479359.151570@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 1000+ radio collection for sale in Tampa Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 01:00:12 -0400 Message-ID: "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1155330481.479359.151570@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > So he's looking to sell the whole lot for one money? yiikes. > > > Tox > He sure is! Most probably because it would cost him more $$ to have Waste Management come by in their big green truck and haul it all away.... ;) Article: 339468 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Lets Date: 12 Aug 2006 01:28:02 -0700 Message-ID: <1155371282.146023.119540@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <29710-44DCD4EA-88@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Oh, yeah. Thanks for reminding the TV Land-less of the planet. RadioGary wrote: > Uncle Joe, or Joe Carson on Petticoat Junction. Old cranky guy with a > rough voice. > > cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > > me reach and crank up the bolume.Bonanza,,, guest star,Edward Buchanan. > > cuhulin Article: 339469 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Pictures of the project SC-145P skyscraper Date: 12 Aug 2006 01:36:35 -0700 Message-ID: <1155371795.201457.252720@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: The next to last radios sure had splotchy veneers but I don't think the finish can be redone. You know, the big Remlers with two eye tubes? Good aerials though. Article: 339470 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: OT but still a sad thing for those that remembered... Date: 12 Aug 2006 02:27:15 -0700 Message-ID: <1155374835.462459.111370@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Mike Douglas has unexpectedly died after a bought of dehydration earlier this year. One source for the story: http://entertainment.tv.yahoo.com/entnews/ap/20060812/115536912000.html Article: 339471 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave.H" Subject: Unknown Australian Radio Date: 12 Aug 2006 04:16:06 -0700 Message-ID: <1155381366.322628.124400@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Can any of you guys help me with this radio? This is my uncles radio, but I have yet to see it and inspect it over. http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=213098295&size=o Thanks in advance Article: 339472 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: 1000+ radio collection for sale in Tampa Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 08:26:38 -0400 Message-ID: <12dri809k9fsl89@corp.supernews.com> References: <9qadnQLYBJFNB0bZnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@giganews.com> <4y0Dg.129706$1i1.22531@attbi_s72> <1155330481.479359.151570@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1155330481.479359.151570@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > So he's looking to sell the whole lot for one money? Yes, a tough one. Old radio stuff's value decreases dramatically with size. A complete Scott Phantom AM/FM went for $400- at an Estes auction. The knobs could have been sold for a bit more than that on eBay. However if you eBayed it whole, pickup only from a place like Antigo, Wisconsin you might get five hundred at best. John H. Article: 339473 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44DDCCFD.4090EAD@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO AMP-400 WATTS/CHANNEL-$275 References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 12:44:09 GMT Sunoco premium 93 octane-KING OF THE ROAD wrote: > > > oh well- face it- you just can't keep a good man down Yes you can. But a lying piece of crap always floats to the surface. Something to do with having sold your soul to the devil. How many dam times do I have to kill file you? -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 339474 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1155263547.763931.264130@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Need Phonograph Help Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:52:12 -0400 "Gerald D. Pine" wrote in message news:pan.2006.08.11.22.35.28.841253@yahoo.com... > Another option should you decide that you need a new cartridge is to > purchase a cartridge with an adapter made for the old RCA 45 players > from Willie Bosco. I've purchased a cartridge, new diamond stylus, and > idler wheel from him and have been very happy with service and product. > Here's the link to a current ebay auction of his. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/CARTRIDGE-FOR-RCA-45-PHONOGRAPH-RECORD-PLAYER_W0QQitemZ120018865920QQihZ002QQcategoryZ1442QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem As I previously said, these cartridges are fine for the three tubers but do not work for the single tube player using a 50L6 and a rectifier, the output is only 0,7V instead of the 3V needed. Otherwise it's a good substitute although a little pricey. Ed Saunders was selling similar cartridges for 9.95 and no adapters needed. I bought one for evaluation and it fits and work just fine for the three tubers. It a Sharp cartridge IIRC. I made available a simple one transistor preamp design which can be built right on the volume control should one wants to buy a lower output cartridge and retrofit on a single tube player. It is in the Phono section of Z-Forum: www.oldradioz.com/forum Syl Article: 339475 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: <1155243489.997084.71520@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Pictures of the project SC-145P skyscraper Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:44:14 -0500 Message-ID: > How about a photo of the changer? As I recall, it was a somewhat scary > gizmo that flung played records into the slanted bin on the side. > > Phil Nelson > Yes, let's see some good pics of the player. Also, what's that Capehart doing out in the garage? :-) Bruce Article: 339476 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: <1155096721.888577.196480@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1155124375.162538.67090@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: SC classic skyscraper with a new home Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 09:50:00 -0500 Message-ID: "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1155124375.162538.67090@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > AuroraOldRadios wrote: >> Stromberg-Carlson skyscraper radio/phono 145p. Needs a ton of veneer >> work, but is mostly there. I took the chassis/speaker/tt home tonite, >> will pick up cabinet in a day or 2. > > wow! want to sell or trade? take advantage of me. Eddie, you masochist. You're getting 'easy' in my old age. ;-) I'd take that in a minute and probably have to put it in the bed as that's about the only spot left. Who needs to sleep? Bruce Article: 339477 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dwight D. Eisenhower" Subject: FS: (51) tapes for sale-all new wave-college dorm lot-1980-90's era-PUNK-$$$$$$ Date: 12 Aug 2006 08:12:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1155395530.630473.3210@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1155215779.830921.178500@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=24azsc1 http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=24azsrr http://tinypic.com/view/?pic=24azuv9 I'd like to sell this lot of tapes if someone wants them. Price is $25 plus media mail shipping. These were in storage at a college in Ohio for about 10 years- they were part of a collection the students used to listen to in the lobby- and represent music of that era. I can guarantee all of them will play reliably. Here's the artist list: DR. JOHN FLIGHT OF THE ROMULANS MIKE MERZ-BUZZKILL NATION PRIMUS-PORK SODA THE RUTTLES THE POGUES THE BLUR FEAR LENNY KRAVITZ VANILLA FUDGE KRAFTWERK AUTOBAHN JOE JACKSON LOOK SHARP BOOTSY'S FUNK ICP CORROSION OF CONFORMITY-EYE FOR AN EYE ANNIHILATOR-ALICE IN HELL PINK FLOYD DEVO RIGHT SAID FRED-DIGITAL UNDERGROUND-ROMEO VOID--MC HAMMER WHITE LINES DON'T DO IT WKCO HARDCORE SHOW APRIL 1987 SEX PISTOLS NEVER MIND THE BULLOCKS SWEET DESOLATION BLVD FLIPPER SEX BOMB BABY SQUEEZE ROCKY HORROR PICTURE SHOW B-52'S REM ALICE IN CHAINS STORMTROOPERS OF DEATH MOTLEY CRUE SONIC SOFT MACHINE CUTTING EDGE OF THE 80'S P.FUNK NWA-EFIL4ZAGGIN-RUTHLESS/PRIORITY-MAY 1991 LORDS OF ACID SOUNDGARDEN NEGATIVLAND ERIC MERCURY-FUNKY SOUNDS NURTURED IN THE FERTILE SOIL OF MEMPHIS THAT SMELL OF ROCK PRETENDERS BUTTHOLE SURFERS MONSTER MAGNET LORDS OF ACID TAPE 2 RIGHT SAID FRED-DIGITAL UNDERGROUND-ROMEO VOID-MC HAMMER- TAPE 2 TECHNORAVE 4 CB4 NEW BOMB TURKS THE DOORS THE CIGARETTES there is (51) tapes in all that weigh 14 pounds in a box- shipping via USPS media mail will be about $15 anywhere in the USA just want to see these go to someone who appreciates this music, rather than bulk erase them and use them as blanks post here if interested- paypal accepted or money order/cashiers check Article: 339478 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44ddf0d1$0$4531$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Knight Kit vintage resistors References: <1154711379.062196.94830@s13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44d4a2a9$0$4531$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <44d5d382$0$4530$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <44d71ac9$0$4520$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <0a2qd2t01tie6i5lsmvag8kalvtt5lq8se@4ax.com> Date: 12 Aug 2006 15:16:33 GMT Brian McAllister wrote: > Do you have any idea who made these capacitors? > http://oldtech.net/tempix/mustardcaps.jpg Sorry, I don't have a clue on those. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 339479 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: KUTZTOWN SEPT 22-23 who's going? Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 11:41:31 -0400 Message-ID: <12drtldb7gqgn96@corp.supernews.com> References: <1155259735.216056.264310@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <12dno96q4brvh0c@corp.supernews.com> <1155298319.770950.110690@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <12dpv3bnfcok943@corp.supernews.com> Best deal here, no pets though- http://www.choicehotels.com/ires/en-US/html/HotelInfo?hotel=PA185 John H. Article: 339480 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: FS: (51) tapes for sale-all new wave-college dorm lot-1980-90's era-PUNK-$$$$$$ Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 08:32:41 -0700 Message-ID: <01trd212o29ncvuu6gsrllesbujpsunb1h@4ax.com> References: <1155215779.830921.178500@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1155215945.241324.316340@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155219704.856561.106110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1155228631.377167.123920@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1155245766.503963.80690@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1155395530.630473.3210@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> On 12 Aug 2006 08:12:10 -0700, "Dwight D. Eisenhower" (aka the deluded Charles M. Nudo, Jr. of Drums, PA) spamming from wrote: > http://tinypic DO NOT BUY FROM THIS OFF-TOPIC SPAMMER AND DIRTBAG SELLER! This spammer and eBay fraudster, Charlie Nudo of Drums, PA, aka 66fourdoor on eBay, is yet another annoying eBay spammer, as well as an eBay cheat and crook. He's obviously under pressure now due to my efforts, as he's sending my ISP and othe net ops messages threatening legal action if they don't shut me up...ain't gonna happen! Now, due to fraud complaints on eBay, he's trying to "direct market" by spamming the hell out of Usenet. Don't be beguiled by his "great feedback," either...take a look at his attempts at extortion and his "buried" bad feedback at: http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=66fourdoor&Dirn=Received+by Also, take a look at his retaliatory bad feedback left for others at: http://toolhaus.org/cgi-bin/negs?User=66fourdoor&Dirn=Left+by This guy's a proven nut case and crook. He defrauded me twice under two different eBay account names, one having been shut down since then for fraud. Do Usenet a favor...turn this creep in for spam today at: groups-abuse@google.com (use email account he used in his spam) abuse@epix.net (main account POP3 address thenudofamily@epix.net) ...and do NOT fall victim to his scam sales! Article: 339481 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: Pictures of the project SC-145P skyscraper Date: 12 Aug 2006 08:53:25 -0700 Message-ID: <1155398005.346140.281730@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1155243489.997084.71520@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Bruce Mercer wrote: > > How about a photo of the changer? As I recall, it was a somewhat scary > > gizmo that flung played records into the slanted bin on the side. > > > > Phil Nelson > > > Yes, let's see some good pics of the player. Also, what's that Capehart > doing out in the garage? :-) > > Bruce I need 4 strong men to help me get the Capehart into the prime spot in my livingroom. :-) I'll try to get photos of the tt today. I don't think it's original. Article: 339482 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Pictures of the project SC-145P skyscraper Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 10:08:45 -0600 Message-ID: <10417-44DDFD0D-309@storefull-3231.bay.webtv.net> References: out in the garage? :-) Bruce HAY thats not the garage ... Its the ``radio waiting lounge `` Article: 339483 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: SC classic skyscraper with a new home Date: 12 Aug 2006 09:18:27 -0700 Message-ID: <1155399507.379512.227690@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1155096721.888577.196480@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Bruce Mercer wrote: > "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message > news:1155124375.162538.67090@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > > > AuroraOldRadios wrote: > >> Stromberg-Carlson skyscraper radio/phono 145p. Needs a ton of veneer > >> work, but is mostly there. I took the chassis/speaker/tt home tonite, > >> will pick up cabinet in a day or 2. > > > > wow! want to sell or trade? take advantage of me. > > Eddie, you masochist. You're getting 'easy' in my old age. ;-) I'd take that > in a minute and probably have to put it in the bed as that's about the only > spot left. Who needs to sleep? > Bruce this is one that is on my all time want list. i have been begging dan off line. he has access to my full collection (and checking account). i wouldn't blame him if he keeps it. like i told him, it's amazing what a step in a cabinet can do for it. i wonder why more manufacturers didn't take a few chances design-wise? Article: 339484 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "SEaudioFan" Subject: Packard Bell console HI-FI RPC43 Date: 12 Aug 2006 09:46:36 -0700 Message-ID: <1155401196.606958.103710@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> I'm looking for schematic or Sam's photofact copy for the above hi-fi. It's labeled solid state, but actually has a tube tuner and transistor amp. Any help is appreciated. I notice the Foster mid range speakers are rated at 1 watt! a real power house!! Article: 339485 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Pictures of the project SC-145P skyscraper Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 12:48:21 -0400 Message-ID: <12ds1inead62vf7@corp.supernews.com> References: <1155243489.997084.71520@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:HLmdnV5hBc_ddEDZnZ2dnUVZ_q6dnZ2d@sigecom.net... > Also, what's that Capehart doing out in the garage? > I saw a Kloster wooden set that had been kept in a three sided shed in Newcastle, Colorado for fifty years that looked better than Vermont sets >from nice dry barn attics. John H. Article: 339486 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Soldering techniques Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 13:49:46 -0400 Message-ID: <12ds55rlnld2g49@corp.supernews.com> References: <2BZCg.73406$Qu4.13354@trnddc04> <1155297031.047860.323640@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <3M1Dg.129854$1i1.30796@attbi_s72> "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:3M1Dg.129854$1i1.30796@attbi_s72... > > good solder joints start with a good mechanical joint.. > That's always nice, but in the early '30s Atwater Kent engineers provided no eyelet and you simply lay the wire on the pad in a puddle of solder. john H. Article: 339487 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Solomon K. Subject: Re: Unknown Australian Radio Message-ID: References: <1155381366.322628.124400@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:01:01 GMT On 12 Aug 2006 04:16:06 -0700, "Dave.H" wrote: >Can any of you guys help me with this radio? This is my uncles radio, >but I have yet to see it and inspect it over. > >http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=213098295&size=o > >Thanks in advance Made by Zenith for the Australian market. Don't know the model # though. Article: 339488 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Mike Subject: Re: Soldering techniques Message-ID: References: <2BZCg.73406$Qu4.13354@trnddc04> <1155297031.047860.323640@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <3M1Dg.129854$1i1.30796@attbi_s72> <12ds55rlnld2g49@corp.supernews.com> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:10:10 GMT On Sat, 12 Aug 2006 13:49:46 -0400, "Hagstar" wrote: > >"John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message >news:3M1Dg.129854$1i1.30796@attbi_s72... > >> >> good solder joints start with a good mechanical joint.. >> > >That's always nice, but in the early '30s Atwater Kent engineers provided no >eyelet and you simply lay the wire on the pad in a puddle of solder. > >john H. > Sounds like early Surface Mount Technology (heh, heh) It's important to get wire to wire or wire to lug contact when soldering. You don't want the lead just floating in the solder. Mike Article: 339489 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" Subject: Cloth covered wire Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 20:32:47 GMT Today a friend gave me some spools of 20 AWG CCW (laquered) in some different patterns/colours as following: 9 x 200mt 1 x 282mt 2 x 350mt 1 x 258mt 1 x 383mt total if 3083mt, 3.083Km (about 10115') I'm wondering about those spools are winded: they appear to be small but once unpacked they literaly explose showing how much wire there's actually. I had them for free, but, how much would be the real value? They smell really too much! How to make them 'available in the room'? Included in the stock 5 NOS/NIB 100uA meters. Pictures here: http://www.junkradios.com/public/w1.jpg http://www.junkradios.com/public/w2.jpg http://www.junkradios.com/public/w3.jpg I put also a fast-text-only chat, you can try it here: http://www.junkradios.com/chat/chat.asp -- Daniele http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 339490 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Cloth covered wire References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 17:30:44 -0400 Are they stranded or solid? Ken Daniele wrote: > Today a friend gave me some spools of 20 AWG > CCW (laquered) in some different patterns/colours as following: > > 9 x 200mt > 1 x 282mt > 2 x 350mt > 1 x 258mt > 1 x 383mt > > total if 3083mt, 3.083Km (about 10115') > > I'm wondering about those spools are winded: > they appear to be small but once unpacked > they literaly explose showing how much wire > there's actually. > I had them for free, but, how much would be > the real value? > They smell really too much! How to make them > 'available in the room'? > Included in the stock 5 NOS/NIB 100uA meters. > Pictures here: > http://www.junkradios.com/public/w1.jpg > http://www.junkradios.com/public/w2.jpg > http://www.junkradios.com/public/w3.jpg > I put also a fast-text-only chat, you can try it here: > http://www.junkradios.com/chat/chat.asp > > Article: 339491 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Atwater Kent red paint- where to get Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 18:08:38 -0400 Message-ID: <4f8a9fe877de15068a42467b6b6b2d2e@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Does anyone know where I can get red paint that matches that used on the metal cased AK's? Someone mentioned it a long time ago but I didn't need it then. Spray can or regular- it doesn't matter. -Pete Article: 339492 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned From: "Weldon Nudlpudl" References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1155224161.038123.139010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <07mmd25v5c15atknurm6jc981efeandnk7@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 22:29:40 GMT On 10-Aug-2006, DeserTBoB wrote: > Enjoy your open account...for awhile. I just got off the phone with > eBay. They're "reevaluating" their position. Anybody who has struggled with eBay knows that they would rather eat their own young than reevaluate their position on anything. Article: 339493 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: Subject: Re: Cloth covered wire Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 22:55:34 GMT "Ken" > Are they stranded or solid? Ken Sorry, forgot to mention... stranded. Article: 339494 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Cloth covered wire References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 19:16:56 -0400 You have a nice supply of wire. Check to see if they tin easily. Some old wire won't take solder well. Ken Daniele wrote: > "Ken" > >>Are they stranded or solid? Ken > > > Sorry, forgot to mention... stranded. > > > Article: 339495 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nesesu" Subject: Re: Cloth covered wire Date: 12 Aug 2006 16:41:58 -0700 Message-ID: <1155426118.562526.118440@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Daniele, what is the smell they have; is it a chemical smell from the insulation or a musty smell from damp storage? If they have been stored damp, then, as mentioned, the wire may not solder well, but that may only extend in a few metres from each end. Depending on condition: if poor it is worth about half it's weight in scrap copper price and if in excellent condition, perhaps a few hundred Euros. Most meters don't seem to get very much unless they are especially sought after, even if NIB. Neil S. Daniele wrote: > Today a friend gave me some spools of 20 AWG > CCW (laquered) in some different patterns/colours as following: > > 9 x 200mt > 1 x 282mt > 2 x 350mt > 1 x 258mt > 1 x 383mt > > total if 3083mt, 3.083Km (about 10115') > > I'm wondering about those spools are winded: > they appear to be small but once unpacked > they literaly explose showing how much wire > there's actually. > I had them for free, but, how much would be > the real value? > They smell really too much! How to make them > 'available in the room'? > Included in the stock 5 NOS/NIB 100uA meters. > Pictures here: > http://www.junkradios.com/public/w1.jpg > http://www.junkradios.com/public/w2.jpg > http://www.junkradios.com/public/w3.jpg > I put also a fast-text-only chat, you can try it here: > http://www.junkradios.com/chat/chat.asp > > > -- > Daniele > http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 339496 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Cloth covered wire Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 02:12:35 +0200 Message-ID: References: Ken wrote: > You have a nice supply of wire. Check to see if they tin easily. Some > old wire won't take solder well. Ken Ken, an old advise was to hold the ends into an alcohol flame (spirit stove) before (or while ;-) soldering. Solder honey will help also. Kind Regards Georg > Daniele wrote: > > > "Ken" > > > >>Are they stranded or solid? Ken > > > > > > Sorry, forgot to mention... stranded. > > > > > > > Article: 339497 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: <1155426118.562526.118440@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Cloth covered wire Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 00:30:18 GMT They smell chemical from insulation, it seems incoming from the 'laquer'. It's not ticky at all. Has perfect shape as new. Internally wires do not show as copper, it seems to be something like silver coated, copper shows only if i scratch them. Done a few try on the first couple of centimeters, and yes, it takes solder quite well without cleaning. Exposing them out the house for some minutes seems to cure smell but when into it re.start again smelling...bleach!... "nesesu" > Daniele, what is the smell they have; is it a chemical smell from the > insulation or a musty smell from damp storage? > If they have been stored damp, then, as mentioned, the wire may not > solder well, but that may only extend in a few metres from each end. > Depending on condition: if poor it is worth about half it's weight in > scrap copper price and if in excellent condition, perhaps a few hundred > Euros. > > Most meters don't seem to get very much unless they are especially > sought after, even if NIB. > > Neil S. > > Daniele wrote: >> Today a friend gave me some spools of 20 AWG >> CCW (laquered) in some different patterns/colours as following: >> >> 9 x 200mt >> 1 x 282mt >> 2 x 350mt >> 1 x 258mt >> 1 x 383mt >> >> total if 3083mt, 3.083Km (about 10115') >> >> I'm wondering about those spools are winded: >> they appear to be small but once unpacked >> they literaly explose showing how much wire >> there's actually. >> I had them for free, but, how much would be >> the real value? >> They smell really too much! How to make them >> 'available in the room'? >> Included in the stock 5 NOS/NIB 100uA meters. >> Pictures here: >> http://www.junkradios.com/public/w1.jpg >> http://www.junkradios.com/public/w2.jpg >> http://www.junkradios.com/public/w3.jpg >> I put also a fast-text-only chat, you can try it here: >> http://www.junkradios.com/chat/chat.asp >> >> >> -- >> Daniele >> http://www.tuberadio.it > > Article: 339498 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Cloth covered wire Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 02:40:54 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1155426118.562526.118440@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Daniele wrote: > They smell chemical from insulation, it seems incoming from > the 'laquer'. It's not ticky at all. Has perfect shape as new. > Internally wires do not show as copper, it seems to be something like > silver coated, copper shows only if i scratch them. > Done a few try on the first couple of centimeters, and yes, it takes > solder quite well without cleaning. Exposing them out the house for some > minutes seems to cure smell but when into it re.start again > smelling...bleach!... Isn't it exactly that fragrance we all love? Or are the wires smelling "olive" (military purpose)? Kind Regards Georg Article: 339499 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: <1155426118.562526.118440@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Cloth covered wire Message-ID: <2GuDg.70904$_J1.722070@twister2.libero.it> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 00:49:02 GMT "Georg Richter" > Isn't it exactly that fragrance we all love? Uhmmm... i guess it may be.. but really too much, you feel it in a room at something like 10 meters far only after 5 minutes they are into.. > > Or are the wires smelling "olive" (military purpose)? Oh... you're pointing me to something i was not thinking about.. yes, you're making me remembering i felt the same smell when i opened sealed NOS military equipments, i think they smell the same! Article: 339500 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: 12 Aug 2006 17:49:02 -0700 Message-ID: <1155430142.410104.297780@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Weldon Nudlpudl wrote: > On 10-Aug-2006, DeserTBoB wrote: > > > Enjoy your open account...for awhile. I just got off the phone with > > eBay. They're "reevaluating" their position. > > Anybody who has struggled with eBay knows that they would rather eat their own young than reevaluate their position on anything. Poster: Everything Google lists you posting to for at least a week, as much as a month or so seems to be solely related to our loving couple, Charlie and Bob, and you post mainly from one of the other groups where we have our misery delivered from via Domino's Pizza and a 19 year old college girl in a beat up Isuzu Rodeo. We can see that you at least know enough to use Babelfish to translate German, if in fact it isn't native to you already. We can also see you might actually comment on topics in our group that actually mattered more than dB and Nudo. We can only hope you see fit to try that again. Cheerleaders normally wear brassieres. Article: 339501 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ":*p" Subject: >|< Date: 12 Aug 2006 17:58:15 -0700 Message-ID: <1155430695.869296.76510@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1155215779.830921.178500@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> ? Article: 339502 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ":*p" Subject: Re: NAD 2200 POWER ENVELOPE STEREO AMP-400 WATTS/CHANNEL-$275 Date: 12 Aug 2006 18:01:42 -0700 Message-ID: <1155430902.523979.50450@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Until you learn grasshopper, DO NOT post to crossposters unless you are screwing them and not the other way. % Article: 339503 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ":*p" Subject: >|< Date: 12 Aug 2006 18:04:37 -0700 Message-ID: <1155431077.586042.48210@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1154036760.729140.261010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> ! Article: 339504 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ":*p" Subject: >|< Date: 12 Aug 2006 18:06:46 -0700 Message-ID: <1155431206.612795.194980@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> 0 Article: 339505 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ":*p" Subject: >|< Date: 12 Aug 2006 18:08:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1155431333.477526.29970@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1155208587.493713.100000@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> ^ Article: 339506 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave.H" Subject: Re: Unknown Australian Radio Date: 12 Aug 2006 18:10:54 -0700 Message-ID: <1155431454.082962.94090@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1155381366.322628.124400@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Christ that looks similar! I'll be going over to inspect it today. My father said it was a valve (tube) type receiver, but either he's wrong or it's a different model that the one robert casey has. robert casey wrote: > Dave.H wrote: > > > Can any of you guys help me with this radio? This is my uncles radio, > > but I have yet to see it and inspect it over. > > > > http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=213098295&size=o > > > > I have one that looks quite similar, see > http://www.geocities.com/wa2ise/radios/calstan.jpg > > It's a transistorized set with power transformer. If I recall > correctly, it's pretty much the kind of radio chassis/ circuitry you'd > find in a portable. Mine's sitting in storage right now. But I don't > have any service info. Article: 339507 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Ron in Radio Heaven" References: <9qadnQLYBJFNB0bZnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@giganews.com> <4y0Dg.129706$1i1.22531@attbi_s72> <1155330481.479359.151570@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 1000+ radio collection for sale in Tampa Message-ID: Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 02:26:26 GMT James Sweet wrote in message > Who on earth would buy that many radios in one lot? Most of the guys that buy whole collections do it so they can cherry pick a few goodies for their collections and then sell off the remainder. I know some folks that have built fantastic collections this way. Ron -- Radio Collection Web Page, http://www.radioheaven.homestead.com WANTED! http://radioheaven.homestead.com/grknob.html Hard to find 2 pin mic connectors for BA rigs. http://radioheaven.homestead.com/2pinmicplug.html Article: 339508 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 22:58:31 -0400 Message-ID: <12dt5aojrji405e@news.supernews.com> References: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155008766.867472.33420@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1155072259.688849.36040@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <5vqdnSRZQ4qPukTZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com> <1155082989.083334.55630@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1155095566.820887.102740@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> wrote in message news:ebdrda$4v5$02$1@news.t-online.com... > Ken Layton wrote: > >> Ah my favorite----Stan Freberg-----happy birthday! >> >> I have the set of his radio shows and they are a scream! I even have >> that special "Tip of the Freberg" collection with his radio and tv >> commercials---love it. :) > > Unfortunately I own only one record of S.F., > "The world is waiting for the sunrise" > so this is my favourite. > > If somebody wants to send similar S.F. records as MP3 > to Stan.Freberg at n78 dot de ... > > Thanks in advance! > > Kind Regards > Georg I don't think asking for illegal copies of Stan's work is a fitting way to celebrate his career Georg... Article: 339509 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ddl@danlan.*com (Dan Lanciani) Subject: tube equipment available Message-ID: <1331967@news1.IPSWITCHS.CMM> Date: 13 Aug 2006 02:58:31 GMT I have the following tube-based components that I'm going to dispose of soon. If anybody wants any of them, let me know. h.h. Scott TYPE 99D AMPLIFIER (mono) H.H. SCOTT stereomaster TYPE 299-B STEREO AMPLIFIER SN94336 SCOTT stereomaster TYPE 370 W I D E B A N D MULTIPLEX FM STEREO Koss M.1229 headphone amp BELL Hi Fidelity "2520" tuner (mono) Heathkit/Williamson Amplifier MODEL W4-AM (with manual) Heathkit Preamplifier WA-P2 (for above) (with manual) Dan Lanciani ddl@danlan.*com Article: 339510 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: yerke@adelphia.net (Rick Yerke) Subject: Re: tube equipment available References: <1331967@news1.IPSWITCHS.CMM> Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 03:04:40 GMT Message-ID: <88SdnVRX_NgmC0PZnZ2dnUVZ_rKdnZ2d@adelphia.com> In article <1331967@news1.IPSWITCHS.CMM>, ddl@danlan.*com (Dan Lanciani) wrote: >I have the following tube-based components that I'm going to dispose >of soon. If anybody wants any of them, let me know. > >h.h. Scott TYPE 99D AMPLIFIER (mono) >H.H. SCOTT stereomaster TYPE 299-B STEREO AMPLIFIER SN94336 >SCOTT stereomaster TYPE 370 W I D E B A N D MULTIPLEX FM STEREO >Koss M.1229 headphone amp >BELL Hi Fidelity "2520" tuner (mono) >Heathkit/Williamson Amplifier MODEL W4-AM (with manual) >Heathkit Preamplifier WA-P2 (for above) (with manual) > > Dan Lanciani > ddl@danlan.*com What are the prices and where are you located? Rick Article: 339511 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbarrel Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Message-ID: <6i7td29fhv91t6vu7dkqje5l7pnuk7ue8n@4ax.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1155224161.038123.139010@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <07mmd25v5c15atknurm6jc981efeandnk7@4ax.com> <1155430142.410104.297780@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 23:37:07 -0400 On 12 Aug 2006 17:49:02 -0700, "Steven" wrote: >Cheerleaders normally wear brassieres. and so does Steven! __________________________________________________________ Have you heard about the new arcade game? It's called 'Whack-a-nuck"! Article: 339512 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: 12 Aug 2006 21:12:06 -0700 Message-ID: <1155442326.108859.99120@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Beerbarrel wrote: > On 12 Aug 2006 17:49:02 -0700, "Steven" wrote: > > > >Cheerleaders normally wear brassieres. > > > > and so does Steven! I borrowed it from your closet though. Article: 339513 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave.H" Subject: Re: Unknown Australian Radio Date: 12 Aug 2006 21:14:49 -0700 Message-ID: <1155442489.853218.311050@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1155381366.322628.124400@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> OK, I went to inspect it, and guess what? I came home with the beast. My uncle didn' want it, so I took it. It is transistor based. There is a jack at the front, is it for a gramophone? I want to hook a CD player to it. What year was It manufactured? View my photos at http://www.flickr.com/photos/davehenning/sets/72157594234699174/ Has it got point to point wiring? The chassis looks like it does, but it also has printed circuit. Article: 339514 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: 12 Aug 2006 21:16:26 -0700 Message-ID: <1155442586.416349.119140@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Steven wrote: > Beerbarrel wrote: > > On 12 Aug 2006 17:49:02 -0700, "Steven" wrote: > > > > > > >Cheerleaders normally wear brassieres. > > > > > > > > and so does Steven! > > I borrowed it from your closet though. It's tight because you're slightly bigger. Article: 339515 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: {OT} It's Stan Freberg's 80th Birthday Date: 12 Aug 2006 22:02:06 -0700 Message-ID: <1155445326.341700.316180@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154977060.630239.51410@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Buck Frobisher wrote: > "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> wrote in message > news:ebdrda$4v5$02$1@news.t-online.com... > > Ken Layton wrote: > > > >> Ah my favorite----Stan Freberg-----happy birthday! > >> > >> I have the set of his radio shows and they are a scream! I even have > >> that special "Tip of the Freberg" collection with his radio and tv > >> commercials---love it. :) > > > > Unfortunately I own only one record of S.F., > > "The world is waiting for the sunrise" > > so this is my favourite. > > > > If somebody wants to send similar S.F. records as MP3 > > to Stan.Freberg at n78 dot de ... > > > > Thanks in advance! > > > > Kind Regards > > Georg > > I don't think asking for illegal copies of Stan's work is a fitting way to > celebrate his career Georg... Ask Larry...he's archived half the civilized world already, hasn't he? Article: 339516 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave.H" Subject: Re: Unknown Australian Radio Date: 12 Aug 2006 22:03:37 -0700 Message-ID: <1155445417.100113.322500@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1155381366.322628.124400@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> On the right side of the chassis as you are looking in from the rear is the code 906TS, and to the left is 43389 What do they mean? Also, on the lower right of the dial is ZD71. Engraved on the bottom front of the radio below the grill, is Warilla P.S 11/74 No 4 I take this to be that the radio was used in Warilla Primary School in 1974, and there were at least 4 of them. If so, then the radio hasn't gone far in the last 32 years because Warilla, NSW, Australia, is where I still live! Article: 339517 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 66fourdoor Has Returned Date: 12 Aug 2006 22:05:29 -0700 Message-ID: <1155445529.213223.194330@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Steven wrote: > Steven wrote: > > Beerbarrel wrote: > > > On 12 Aug 2006 17:49:02 -0700, "Steven" wrote: > > > > > > > > > >Cheerleaders normally wear brassieres. > > > > > > > > > > > > and so does Steven! > > > > I borrowed it from your closet though. > > It's tight because you're slightly bigger. Smaller...think I'll wack this with a nuke too. What would we do if you were dead, Tracy? Not notice you, I'd venture. Article: 339518 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "|||" Subject: >|< Date: 12 Aug 2006 22:09:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1155445750.687083.73770@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1elCg.578591$Fs1.111499@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> __|>> Article: 339519 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 13 Aug 2006 01:31:07 -0400 From: Tom Adkins Subject: Re: Atwater Kent red paint- where to get References: <4f8a9fe877de15068a42467b6b6b2d2e@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Message-ID: Pete_O wrote: > Does anyone know where I can get red paint that matches that used on the > metal cased AK's? Someone mentioned it a long time ago but I didn't need > it then. Spray can or regular- it doesn't matter. -Pete > I don't know if there is any one who sells it as such, but your local Automotive paint supplier should be able to match it if it's not a wrinkle finish. Wrinkle finish is trickier, though it can be done. Article: 339520 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave.H" Subject: Re: Unknown Australian Radio Date: 12 Aug 2006 22:54:23 -0700 Message-ID: <1155448463.626136.218300@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1155381366.322628.124400@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Theres also two holes that look to be sockets of some sort on the back of the chassis. Can provide photos of these if required. Article: 339521 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave.H" Subject: Re: Calstan? Radio Date: 12 Aug 2006 22:56:55 -0700 Message-ID: <1155448615.924864.86900@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1155381366.322628.124400@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Changed subject name. Article: 339522 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "|||" Subject: Re: Calstan? Radio Date: 13 Aug 2006 00:22:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1155453725.474288.280800@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1155381366.322628.124400@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Dave.H wrote: > Changed subject name. OK, Dave, there is a site from Australia about OZ-made sets, and maybe it's linked from the AWA website, but we covered a thread on the subject about two years ago. If I recalled it off the top of my head I'd link you here...let me go look in my bookmarks file. Bingo! Calstan is for "calibrated to a standard" and prior to 1940 were made by Slade Radio Pty. in Croydon, NSW, then by Zenith Radio Pty. in East Sydney, NSW This PDF (Adobe Acrobat file) is found at: http://www.keypoint.com.au/~pauledgr/Calstan.pdf (no models newer than 1948 listed there though) and comes from a website online since 1996 (making it one of the premier sites as is Phil Nelson's site) at: http://www.southcom.com.au/~pauledgr/ Best part is he's got links like an anchor chain and stuff that you will appreciate a lot. I know I'm a ripper and you're welcome! Article: 339523 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Calstan? Radio Date: 13 Aug 2006 00:25:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1155453918.679954.96860@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1155381366.322628.124400@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> ||| wrote: > Dave.H wrote: > > Changed subject name. Changed my name back too (after all I'm not trying to sanction the thread by marking IT--oopsy). Article: 339524 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: OT: Small town hospitality on a Saturday, OR The town Welcome Wagon (off it that is)... Date: 13 Aug 2006 00:36:06 -0700 Message-ID: <1155454566.803555.199380@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> I got home tonight and somebody liked the new (this week) neighbors on the corner so much they decided to adjust their chainlink fence. That quinceanos party at the armory must have been served by the fifteen year old of honor. Wasn't the full moon yesterday? Aiigh. Article: 339525 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave.H" Subject: Re: Calstan? Radio Date: 13 Aug 2006 01:29:25 -0700 Message-ID: <1155457765.211438.125640@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1155381366.322628.124400@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Thanks, but from the styling, it's from the ealry 60's so that info doesn't really help. So Calstan is a subsidary of Zenith?