Article: 340573 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephanie Weil" Subject: Re: Fabricating a stylus replacement Date: 25 Aug 2006 09:19:07 -0700 Message-ID: <1156522746.968457.160280@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: N Cook wrote: > I've robbed the stylus point, (same translucent white -what is the gem?) That would most likely be diamond. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY Article: 340574 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephanie Weil" Subject: Re: Here's a big load of radios for ya. Date: 25 Aug 2006 09:30:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1156523401.215352.302480@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <4n5ie293i4u2n9nbkjt3nor5carpct6nkm@4ax.com> Gary Tayman wrote: > Gee, I've got a Spotmaster sitting here -- wondering why I have it. Never > bothered to plug it in, or to pull out the cart that's still in it. Probably the same reason I still have this ITC Omega rec/play unit. Only one on the block who has one, for sure. Have had it since I left school in 97....so that's 9 years and change. Wow. And then there's the box of carts.... Someday I'll get the urge to hook it up and try it out. -- Stephanie Weil New York, NY Article: 340575 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jiri Placek" Subject: Re: Trans-Portable radio Date: 25 Aug 2006 10:04:30 -0700 Message-ID: <1156525470.507138.318540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Phil Nelson wrote: > If you follow the link from that article to my Blaupunkt Derby article, > you'll find a discussion of why the "take-along" radio concept was more > popular in Europe than in the USA. You are correct, Phil. Take-along radios were quite popular in Europe in 1960's and 1970's and those were qood to excellent quality receivers. Their popularity was due to a large aftermarket need (car radios were not standard accessories at that time period) and the apparently eternal fear of theft (due to the prevalence of urban population in Europe). Notice that many European portables from that time period have all controls on the top side only in order to be usable when placed into a bracket under the dashboard. Some European take-alongs like early Nordmende Globetrotters / Globetravelers were even sold here. My Globetrotter can play circles around Transoceanic 3000 and similar hyped multiband portables. Jiri Placek Boyertown, PA Article: 340576 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: Fabricating a stylus replacement Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:42:49 -0400 "N Cook" wrote in message news:ecmo9s$k39$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > I've done the steel (for electro-magnetic induction) metalwork to make a > functional replacement (to preserve the original un-used) for the stylus > carrying shaft through a 55 year old magnetic cartridge. I would use non-magnetic material in this application just like the original was. > I've robbed the stylus point, (same translucent white -what is the gem?) If you are talking about the 78 stylus, it is Sapphire, and most likely man made Sapphire. > What sort of glue would be best epoxy, super-glue or some specialist glue? I use super glue all the time and I have a stylus I use for testing purpose that is at least 2 years old and still going strong. Actually, I make my own stylii for my phonos. Just a note of caution. If you are looking into playing records with a heavy early magnetic phono cartridge, don't use Sapphire. Best is to use steel needles or Osmium. I suggest you search about this subject in this forum about it using google. Using superglue alone won't give good results. You need a filler. I have used baby powder (yes you read right). Idea is to put a small drop of superglue on the shaft of the stylus, affix the new tip and dunk the whole thing in baby powder. Gently blow the excess (don't overdo it, just whatever will be blown away by blowing gently). Wait at least an hour, then use a toothbrush to remove the hardened power. Sometimes I use a jeweler's file to "shape" or remove the excess powder and leave just the right amount. Sometimes it may suffer aesthetically, but you will be rewarded (if done right) with a much better reproduction than anything available off the shelf (NOS stylii). Hope this helps, Syl Syl Article: 340577 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 12:42:53 -0500 From: jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) Subject: Re: Trans-Portable radio Message-ID: References: <_KKdneSCpvsog3LZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@giganews.com> <1156525470.507138.318540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> In article <1156525470.507138.318540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, "Jiri Placek" wrote: > Some European take-alongs like early Nordmende Globetrotters / > Globetravelers were even sold here. My Globetrotter can play circles > around Transoceanic 3000 and similar hyped multiband portables. A week or so ago we learned that the design of Zenith's high tube count radios left something to be desired, now we find out that the Transoceanic 3000 and similar SW radios are also leave something to be desired. Why couldn't Zenith design a decent state of the art radio? Regards, John Byrns Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ Article: 340578 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:15:04 -0400 From: Scott Irvine Subject: Re: Arvin 9562 question References: Message-ID: Larry Fowkes wrote: > Scott, > > Just a wild a@@ guess here, but could the 1.5 v tap be used for a dial light > of some sort? Is there some type of momentary contact switch on the radio to > light the dial as needed? > > Larry Fowkes > > "Scott Irvine" wrote in message > news:ZtOdnd9sN70JvHPZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@insightbb.com... >> I have an Arvin model #9562 transistor radio. Circa 1959-60? It uses 6 D >> batteries. It has a tap at 1.5v. What is the tap for and if I wanted to >> use an ac adapter would I need to use a 9v and a 1.5v to make the radio >> work? Thanks for any ideas. >> >> Scott Irvine > > Sorry I forgot to say that it does not have a dial lamp. The 1.5v goes into the circuit board. Can't tell what it goes to without tearing it apart. Article: 340579 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Arvin 9562 question Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:44:31 GMT "Scott Irvine" wrote in message news:If-dnSqSauy0o3LZnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@insightbb.com... > Larry Fowkes wrote: >> Scott, >> >> Just a wild a@@ guess here, but could the 1.5 v tap be used for a dial light >> of some sort? Is there some type of momentary contact switch on the radio to >> light the dial as needed? >> >> Larry Fowkes >> >> "Scott Irvine" wrote in message >> news:ZtOdnd9sN70JvHPZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@insightbb.com... >>> I have an Arvin model #9562 transistor radio. Circa 1959-60? It uses 6 D >>> batteries. It has a tap at 1.5v. What is the tap for and if I wanted to >>> use an ac adapter would I need to use a 9v and a 1.5v to make the radio >>> work? Thanks for any ideas. >>> >>> Scott Irvine >> >> > Sorry I forgot to say that it does not have a dial lamp. The 1.5v goes into the > circuit board. Can't tell what it goes to without tearing it apart. It just powers the output transistors. http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4764/arvinbigkg6.jpg jim menning Article: 340580 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Springs for Zenith Shutterdial From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:49:57 GMT In article , mldenison@comcast.net says... > > >Folks, > >I got a 9S262 in and both springs on the shutterdial are rusted and broken. >Can anyone point me to a replacement source? Thanks. > > In the mail to you today Mort John k9uwa Article: 340581 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: Operatic Model 45M Date: 25 Aug 2006 12:18:29 -0700 Message-ID: <1156533507.586287.114940@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156464715.484737.151440@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Dave.H wrote: > What I forgot to ask is this radio a live chassis model? It has no > back or screw holes for one if that helps. If it has a power transformer it is likely not live chassis. I could not look at your pix from where I am so I can't tell if this looks like a hot chassis AA5 or what. However, there can still be dangerous voltages exposed . You may want to keep it close to the wall (but leave an inch for air circulation) or consider putting a porous back on, such as pegboard, mesh, screen, netting, etc. to protect kitty. BTW no one has explicitly stated it but the hum you heard is the first sign of electrolytic capacitor failure, which was mentioned above as potentially fatal to the power transformer. It can also burn down your table, cat, house, etc. :-] It's a good idea to leave any vintage radio unplugged when not in use. Tox Article: 340582 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: FedEX Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:15:12 -0500 Message-ID: <18078-44EF4C40-86@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> A few minutes ago a FedEX delivery guy left a package/box about two feet square on the little front porch by the front door of the house catty corner across the street from me,then he got back in the truck and drove on up the street.There is usually somebody who lves there,but I guess no one is there right now.Yesterday morning,two guys stole the outside airconditioning unit from the vacant house next door to me,in broad open daylight.I was sitting on my couch watching tv when it happened,otherwise if I had seen what was happening,I would have called the cops.Seems to me,FedEX and UPS and USPO and other delivery companies should not leave packages at houses/apartments if no one is at home.I bet a lot of packages get stolen like that. cuhulin Article: 340583 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "tony" Subject: Re: help with an obsolete ECG #? Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:21:51 -0500 Message-ID: References: well, it looks like all the obsolete IC places have a minimum order of from $75 up. I only need 2 ECG761's. Anyone know a place that has a smaller minimum, or even better has some of these IC's in their scrapbox? "tony" wrote in message news:ecl9vn$hds$1@news.tamu.edu... >I posted quite a while ago about trying to repair the Story&Clark organ at >our church. It uses now-obsolete flip-flop IC's as the frequency dividers, >and there are two kinds, one with 4 legs which are a single FF but most are >6 legs containing 2 FF's. They operate on a 17 volt supply, which precludes >a quick modern substitution, even with rewiring. > A reader remembered that the single FF ones can be replaced with ECG754, > (I looked up the data sheet for this # and verified it is the one) but he > could not remember the ECG number for the dual one. Any idea how can I > determine that? > > My 1996 ECG catalog just lists them as obsolete, unavailable, and gives no > data. > > With the number in hand I can try some of the obsolete IC suppliers, but I > don't know what to ask for. > Article: 340584 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: 25 Aug 2006 12:38:35 -0700 Message-ID: <1156534715.496271.76100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> Uncle Willie wrote: > "Phil Nelson" wrote in message > news:Sv2dnc1X17mQDXPZnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@giganews.com... > > My older son and my wife's best friend both bought top-end Dell laptops > > during the months in question. We checked the batteries and they weren't > in > > the recall group. Everything working fine. Snore . . . . > > > > Sitting next to my computer as I type is the Sony KV-1311CR monitor that > I > > have used daily since purchase in the early 1980s. It's what I use to > watch > > satellite TV in the office. > > > > So -- anybody want to discuss antique radios or phonos? We welcome your > > ideas on those RELEVANT topics. > > > > Regards, > > > > Phil Nelson > > Well...I do collect older Sony Transistor Radios, my favorite > being an auto/home/portable transportable model that runs > off of 4 D-cells or 12V that was made in 1966. It still plays great too > and looks nice sitting in my restored 1966 Buick Wildcat Sedan > that has almost as much chrome plated steel *inside* the > passenger compartment as is outside on the V-shaped front end. (grin) > > Still however, I found it very amusing that this all went down with > Sony and their batteries on the same day that the IAU downsized the > Solar System from 9 to 8 Planets.... Wonder if Art Bell will have > anything to comment on about this on Saturday Night ? (grin) I just unjammed the tuner buttons on my Sony KV-1913 and set all the cams for the VHF and channel 3 so I have the slack to send the KV-1923 in to have parts replaced...When A Man Loves A Woman is just finishing on KSRV-AM and I'm going to Payette to see just what might be broken that keeps the AM on the Harman/Kardon receiver I just hand aligned >from being very strong...is that slightly better? None of them use batteries?! Article: 340585 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Re: FedEX Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:52:59 -0400 Message-ID: References: <18078-44EF4C40-86@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> On Fri, 25 Aug 2006 14:15:12 -0500, cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: >A few minutes ago a FedEX delivery guy left a package/box about two feet >square on the little front porch by the front door of the house catty >corner across the street from me,then he got back in the truck and drove >on up the street.There is usually somebody who lves there,but I guess no >one is there right now.Yesterday morning,two guys stole the outside >airconditioning unit from the vacant house next door to me,in broad open >daylight.I was sitting on my couch watching tv when it >happened,otherwise if I had seen what was happening,I would have called >the cops.Seems to me,FedEX and UPS and USPO and other delivery companies >should not leave packages at houses/apartments if no one is at home.I >bet a lot of packages get stolen like that. >cuhulin It is up to the shipper to specify an adult signature. Then the package will not be left unless an adult is home and signs for it. In a case like this, if it was a purchase paid by credit card the receiver can dispute the charge and the merchant is out of luck because he cannot prove delivery. That is why I always say that the safest way to pay for anything ordered on-line or by mail order is with a credit card. The merchant takes all of the risks. John - a merchant who learned all the rules the hard way. Article: 340586 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephanie Weil" Subject: Re: Fabricating a stylus replacement Date: 25 Aug 2006 13:06:51 -0700 Message-ID: <1156536411.801337.209110@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Syl wrote: > > If you are talking about the 78 stylus, it is Sapphire, and most likely > man made Sapphire. Yeah. Why is that? The LP side on a good needle is always diamond. But we're stuck with sapphire for 78s. That sucks because it wears out quickly Feh...at least it's not osmium. Supposedly those are the worst needles you can get. Look at this: http://www.djsociety.org/Graphic/NEEDLE2.GIF -- Stephanie (Diamonds are a DJ's best friend) Weil New York City, NY Article: 340587 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: Trans-Portable radio Date: 25 Aug 2006 13:16:50 -0700 Message-ID: <1156537008.663291.299600@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: John Byrns wrote: > In article <1156525470.507138.318540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>, "Jiri > Placek" wrote: > > > Some European take-alongs like early Nordmende Globetrotters / > > Globetravelers were even sold here. My Globetrotter can play circles > > around Transoceanic 3000 and similar hyped multiband portables. > > A week or so ago we learned that the design of Zenith's high tube count > radios left something to be desired, now we find out that the Transoceanic > 3000 and similar SW radios are also leave something to be desired. Why > couldn't Zenith design a decent state of the art radio? > > > Regards, > > John Byrns > Few companies build true state of the art anything. What consumer is willing the pay the price premium for state of the art? How many companies can afford to provide service if/when it breaks? Any yayhoo could service a 15 tube Zenith. How many could service a Scott AllWave 23? Or a Stratosphere? In spite of all the criticism, Zenith and all the rest mostly built sound, functional, affordable electronics. In it's day, a T/O 3000 was a great performer compared to much lesser consumer dime-a-dozen radios of the same era. Article: 340588 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: FedEX Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:31:22 -0500 Message-ID: <29560-44EF5E1A-114@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: I dont use credit cards.(I never have and I never will.I have gotten by sixty four years without them) If I can't find what I want to buy locally and I almost always can and if an online store will not accept a post office money order from me,then I figure I dont need the item anyway.I once bought a lightning strike surge supressor from www.brickwall.com (Model PW 8R15) It was shipped via UPS.I was in my back yard when it showed up.When I stepped out to my snail mail box by the side of the road,my item from brickwall.com was sitting on my front porch by the front door.Anyone could have sneaked over and stole it.I dont trust those delivery outfits any more than I could sprout wings and fly to the moon. cuhulin Article: 340589 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:34:14 -0500 Message-ID: <29561-44EF5EC6-23@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <1156534715.496271.76100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Us folks at rec.radio.shortwave discussed that too.(Sony batteries and puters) cuhulin Article: 340590 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 05:45:35 +0900 Message-ID: References: <8d365$44eeec14$d1cc5bb8$16828@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <18541-44EEF31D-6@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! "Bill Sheppard" wrote in message news:18541-44EEF31D-6@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net... > Got a question regarding laptops - can't they be run on straight AC with > the batteries out of the loop? The reason being, i have resolved to dump > this !@#$%^&* webtv dinosaur after 9 years. And a used laptop is the > only real option. > Bill(oc) > Bill, Yes, you can. What sort of laptop would you be looking for? I have a spare sitting around here.. a Panasonic Toughbook. I don't remember ATM whether it's a 500 or 600MHz. It's running WinXP. I'd trade it for some kind of project radio. Article: 340591 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-k8vt Subject: Re: Trans-Portable radio References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:46:12 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > These radios were available as options in the 58-59 Olds and Pontiac; I > don't know if Buick or the others ever offered one. It is a radio that > actually slides into the dash as a docking station, and plays through the > dash speaker in the normal fashion. However it can be removed and used as a > portable radio, with built-in speaker and batteries. So you can take it to > the beach, fill it up with sand, and jab it back into the dash for the trip > home. I have a Blaupunkt Derby radio from the early 60s...AM-FM-SW, runs on 6 D cells, "portable" format, but the "portable" handle snaps off and it slides into a cradle under the dash, has a covered port on the side of the radio for a conventional Motorola (?) car antenna plug. Excellent performance and the best sounding portable I ever heard (or maybe my ears were just better in the 60s) ;-) > The portable idea was indeed cute. It's a stupid idea however, as for the > same or less money you could easily purchase a REAL portable radio and keep > it portable. Maybe not stupid for the Europeans of the era---they may have been more frugal than us... Article: 340592 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:18:53 -0500 Message-ID: <29560-44EF693D-123@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <1156473902.385455.194790@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> I own a nice Milwaukee electric drill and electric grinder,like the kind that are held in both hands.(both are the corded kind,you have to plug them in) I also own a bunch of old Sony transistor radios.As far as I remember,they all still work ok.When I was in the Army at Scott Air Force Base,Illinois in 1963,I owned a nice little Sony transistor radio I bought at the Base Exchange store.The cabinet of the radio was round and flat on top,as best as I remember.I would like to find a few photos on the internet that looks like that little Sony radio.Like my old buddy once said many years ago pertaining to Dodge cars,,,, That was back when they made them good! (he is Chevy guy,he doesn't like Dodge cars) cuhulin Article: 340593 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Beloved Leader" Subject: Re: Looking for a Trade Date: 25 Aug 2006 14:28:56 -0700 Message-ID: <1156541336.097313.8010@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156515424.465254.269150@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > I have two Original US-made AR Integrated Amplifiers. Which one? I know there was an AA-15, but was there an AA-14 or AA-29 as well? Article: 340594 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 16:54:40 -0500 Message-ID: <29560-44EF71A0-134@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: If you are interested in getting an older computer updated/upgraded.Look in the Here's How section of PC World magazine for September 2006.Title of the article is (I have the paper magazine right here,so I do) Get Any PC,New or Old,Ready for Everyday Use.The article might also be online. www.pcworld.com cuhulin ........................................................... Lee Marvin in that movie,Emperor of the North,,, laughing at himself after he done caught that Railroad Train Cattle Car on fire. ........................................................... Article: 340595 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: Subject: Re: Anyone have a schematic for an Emud T7? Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:07:57 -0400 Message-ID: Check your email. "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:ecmkr0$169$1@news2.kornet.net... > I'm not afraid to pay for one if necessary. > > TIA > > Brenda Ann > > > > -- > Say no to institutionalized interference. > Just say NO to HD/IBOC! > Article: 340596 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <_KKdneSCpvsog3LZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@giganews.com> <1156525470.507138.318540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Trans-Portable radio Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 22:09:20 GMT Hi! > Why couldn't Zenith design a decent state of the art radio? I think it's always about cost. They *could* have, there's no doubt about that much. But would the market have seen the extra value offered by the set if it cost more and had been built to be "state of the art"? I don't think most people would notice. One thing I have noticed is that Zenith seems to have built reliable radios. Just about all of the ones I've collected (a 6S52 excluded, because it's been reworked for some reason and I don't feel up to fixing it) have played immediately after a quick check to be sure the cord was safe and the interior clean. William Article: 340597 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1156536411.801337.209110@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Fabricating a stylus replacement Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 18:15:40 -0400 "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:1156536411.801337.209110@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Syl wrote: >> >> If you are talking about the 78 stylus, it is Sapphire, and most likely >> man made Sapphire. > > Yeah. Why is that? > > The LP side on a good needle is always diamond. But we're stuck with > sapphire for 78s. That sucks because it wears out quickly > > Feh...at least it's not osmium. Supposedly those are the worst needles > you can get. > Look at this: > > http://www.djsociety.org/Graphic/NEEDLE2.GIF > > -- > Stephanie (Diamonds are a DJ's best friend) Weil > New York City, NY "Supposedly"....eh ? Based on what experience? Looks like that picture is meant to boost sales from "diamond" stylii manufacturers... I'll let _you_ use a diamond or sapphire stylii on an early 78 record playing with a 4 ounces magnetic cartridge. FYI, All stylii for 78 are designed to wear fast to protect the medium. Except for rare stylii using diamond mostly for archiving, and cut to specific shapes. Syl Article: 340598 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Looking for a Trade Date: 25 Aug 2006 15:44:54 -0700 Message-ID: <1156545894.750441.280640@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156515424.465254.269150@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Beloved Leader wrote: > Peter Wieck wrote: > > I have two Original US-made AR Integrated Amplifiers. > > Which one? I know there was an AA-15, but was there an AA-14 or AA-29 > as well? Acoustic Research. There is but one. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 340599 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Art's Antique Radios" References: <18078-44EF4C40-86@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: FedEX Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:46:16 -0500 Message-ID: It is all economies of scale. Cheaper to pay a few insurance claims than to worry about leaving a few boxes and trudging up stairs or waiting for a signature wrote in message news:18078-44EF4C40-86@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net... >A few minutes ago a FedEX delivery guy left a package/box about two feet > square on the little front porch by the front door of the house catty > corner across the street from me,then he got back in the truck and drove > on up the street.There is usually somebody who lves there,but I guess no > one is there right now.Yesterday morning,two guys stole the outside > airconditioning unit from the vacant house next door to me,in broad open > daylight.I was sitting on my couch watching tv when it > happened,otherwise if I had seen what was happening,I would have called > the cops.Seems to me,FedEX and UPS and USPO and other delivery companies > should not leave packages at houses/apartments if no one is at home.I > bet a lot of packages get stolen like that. > cuhulin > Article: 340600 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Art's Antique Radios" References: <1vhse2d1iam20kshaiovkg5tlci34b8fp5@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Looking for a Zenith 835 or 809 Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:47:32 -0500 Message-ID: BIG $$$$ $2800 for one and over $3000 for the other recently on EBay "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:1vhse2d1iam20kshaiovkg5tlci34b8fp5@4ax.com... >A friend of mine is looking for a Zenith 835 or an 809. Anyone have > one to sell, or know who has one? > > > Blacksmith > wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Article: 340601 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <18078-44EF4C40-86@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: FedEX Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 15:55:20 -0700 Message-ID: > It is up to the shipper to specify an adult signature. Then the > package will not be left unless an adult is home and signs for it. But sometimes the shipper forgets (even when it's SOP for them), and people do make mistakes. Article: 340602 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: Subject: Re: Trans-Portable radio Message-ID: Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 22:57:47 GMT Hi! > Have you ever seen one of these? Well, Phil Nelson has one from Buick documented on his web site. (Which reminds me...I'd really like to know how the tuning was done when you put the portable part back into the car...did the in-dash unit drive the tuning dial on the portable unit, or did it pull the portable's tuner out of circuit and replace it with another one located in the in dash part?) > It was an interesting idea that only lasted for a couple of years, mainly > because in my opinion, it's a STUPID idea -- in the same category as car > record players.. I guess I'd differ with that, although if I'd have been A) around and B) in the car buying market at that time, I'm not sure what I would have done. I'll bet that such a radio wasn't cheap to buy with your car. I find the concept of such a radio fascinating...and could see it being handy. But then again, I'm the kind of person who would fully intend to take a portable radio somewhere and forget it. Having one right there in the vehicle would head that off at the pass. > Of course today there are plenty of car stereos that pull out in the same > fashion, for the purpose of theft prevention. That only works IF you pull > out the radio and take it with you everywhere you go -- otherwise it's > easier than ever to steal. I've never seen the reasoning behind a detachable face plate. I think it would be too easy to get another by telling the radio maker that "I ran over it/lost it/dropped it/whatever". Taking the whole radio with you might be a better way, but I don't think I've ever seen a radio that worked like that. > Still, it's a novelty. I may post a few pictures when I get it. I'd love to see them, especially if you take pictures of the insides. I'd also like to know if I can use your comment on my "Undocumented Delco Radio Features" page from a thread you started a while ago. I asked and never heard back. Also, do you have any pictures of your conversion PCB? William Article: 340603 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Brian McAllister Subject: Re: Most unservicable! Message-ID: References: <6QOGg.6009$hP6.740@trnddc04> <7%SGg.6035$hP6.4123@trnddc04> Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 22:58:54 GMT On Wed, 23 Aug 2006 06:57:07 GMT, "Gary Tayman" wrote: >Oh yes, I forgot to mention -- when I removed the front cover, a big lizard >jumped out and ran behind the bench. Fun fun! > Did it try to sell you car insurance? Article: 340604 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Trans-Portable radio Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 00:07:13 GMT "William R. Walsh" wrote in message news:LfLHg.929687$084.828475@attbi_s22... > I'd also like to know if I can use your comment on my "Undocumented Delco > Radio Features" page from a thread you started a while ago. I asked and > never heard back. Also, do you have any pictures of your conversion PCB? > > William I suppose, but I don't recall the thread. As for photos, at some point I'll have to take a few pictures. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 340605 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 17:06:47 -0700 Message-ID: <766-44EF9097-2@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> References: Brenda, thanks for the offer, but i got a laptop lined up already. It's >from a dude who's also an RC airplane nut like me. He's not a builder, just flys (and sometimes crashes). So i'm bartering airplane repair/rebuilding services for the computer. Bill(oc) Article: 340606 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Mystery Turntable Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 02:13:40 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1156340416.910462.283150@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44ee5bb9$0$8835$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156510482.844784.234610@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Lucas... Innovators in darkness. Darkness ... ? Same as Loch Ness, but darker ;-) (Couldn't resist ;-) Kind Regards Georg Article: 340607 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "USSEnterprise" Subject: Recordio R-602 Date: 25 Aug 2006 17:27:59 -0700 Message-ID: <1156552079.834021.18770@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I just found one of these collecting dust in my basement. Its a reel to reel recorder/player. I plugged it in and threw an old reel on, and heard nothing. I then connected a microphone, but when I tried, it did not amplify my voice. However, there is an input on it, so I connected a CD player. I heard music. I'm guessing that the pre-amplifier is out. Is this a correct assumption? What do I do to fix it? It uses four tubes it looks like. Could one be bad? Article: 340608 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave.H" Subject: Re: Operatic Model 45M Date: 25 Aug 2006 17:30:52 -0700 Message-ID: <1156552252.116720.316370@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156464715.484737.151440@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> It has a transformer on the underside and a large square thing on top that may be another one. And as for the back I am gonna put a back on that goes up three quarters anough to keep that mongrel of a cat out. And I have to unplug it when not in use as its very high tech - it has no power switch, switching it off at the power outlet turns it off. Article: 340609 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: yerke@adelphia.net (Rick Yerke) Subject: FS: HP 330B Distortion Analyzer $20 Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 00:32:06 GMT Message-ID: I have for sale a HP 330B Distortion Analyzer for $20 if you pick-up at my house near Scranton Pa.Rick Yerke Article: 340610 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave.H" Subject: Re: Operatic Model 45M Date: 25 Aug 2006 17:35:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1156552511.331307.55750@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1156464715.484737.151440@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> I am not that confident inside old radios, as I have been zapped by 240 Volts A.C TWICE IN MY LIFETIME of 16 years, so the 3rd time might not be so lucky. Surprisingly on both occasions all I felt was a slight tingle. Didnt affect me at all. I am highly cautious around electricity now. May get it repaired professionally. Perhaps one day in the not too distant future, I will buy another old radio and try to restore it. I hope so. Article: 340611 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 23:01:11 -0400 Message-ID: <12eveca3uj2ufef@news.supernews.com> References: <8d365$44eeec14$d1cc5bb8$16828@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <18541-44EEF31D-6@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> New ones are so cheap now it's silly. Of course, we all have various ideas on te definition of "cheap", but I've seen name brand one in our area regularly for C$600 with XP, and a bundled package of tools (word processor, basic spreadsheet, not MS). Screens are bigger and brighter, graphics cards don't choke as easily, HDs are big enough for real world stuff. Old ones always seem to need a lot of coddling and patience on the user's part to get through even basic stuff. Article: 340612 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: FedEX Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 22:34:21 -0500 Message-ID: <18080-44EFC13D-4@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: I just now did a www.devilfinder.com search for, Instances of stolen packages left at homes by FedEX. It's not just FedEX,it's the other ones too. People have the right to have their packages delivered to their homes,offices,businesses,wherever,and if someone who isn't in authority isn't there,then the delivery people should at least slide a note under the door letting them know their package is waiting at the delivery point so they can arrange to be at home on the next delivery date and time when the delivery people are in the neighborhood. It is no wonder those delivery outfits have such a bad rep.If I said I was going to deliver something to you and I will be there on a certain day,would you expect me to sit it by your door and walk off if you wasen't there? I wouldn't do it. cuhulin Article: 340613 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: 25 Aug 2006 20:46:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1156563970.897556.43080@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <8d365$44eeec14$d1cc5bb8$16828@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> Buck Frobisher wrote: > New ones are so cheap now it's silly. > > Of course, we all have various ideas on te definition of "cheap", but I've > seen name brand one in our area regularly for C$600 with XP, and a bundled > package of tools (word processor, basic spreadsheet, not MS). > > Screens are bigger and brighter, graphics cards don't choke as easily, HDs > are big enough for real world stuff. Old ones always seem to need a lot of > coddling and patience on the user's part to get through even basic stuff. Yeah, true. I still build my computers with leftovers though. At least I built it. Article: 340614 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: Subject: Re: Trans-Portable radio Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:57:26 -0700 Message-ID: > (Which reminds me...I'd really like to know how the tuning was done when > you > put the portable part back into the car...did the in-dash unit drive the > tuning dial on the portable unit, or did it pull the portable's tuner out > of > circuit and replace it with another one located in the in dash part?) If you look at the factory photo of the car's dashboard, you'll see a conventional tuning knob & dial, with pushbuttons. A note from a Buick owner mentions that the in-dash portion of the radio used an additional two transistors. Also note that the Trans-Portable had its own keyed lock inside the glovebox (which presumably had the normal lock). Phil Nelson Article: 340615 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bobby" Subject: Re: Hallicrafters S120... Date: 25 Aug 2006 21:03:33 -0700 Message-ID: <1156565013.772103.144320@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: Larry, I have fitted it with a polarized cord with the hot lead on the switch. Whether it on or off, the chassis is at ground potential. I have checked and triple checked this for the same reason you show concern, it is for a young girl. The cabinet is isolated from the chassis as is the front panel which leaves the ground screw, which is also at ground potential. It is as good as it can get. The grandfather is a amateur radio operator and I am sure he will inform his grandaughter of the safe and proper operation of this old equipment. Bobby KC9IHK Larry wrote: > Robert Sherrod wrote in news:Tb9Eg.135478$1i1.52777 > @attbi_s72: > > > Given that this S120 will be given to the granddaughter of the > > individual who is having it restored > > How old is this granddaughter? I'd hate to be the one to give a radio > that's a potential lethal shock hazard, like the S-120, to any young girl > and ultimately be responsible for her death, just for old-times-sake.... > > Isn't one side of the S-120's chassis hooked to the power line? I used to > get mild shocks off the ground screw on mine when I was "younger"...(c; > > > > > -- > There's amazing intelligence in the Universe. > You can tell because none of them ever called Earth. Article: 340616 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <9chse2dpb48bl2m3h1p5jvoj96hdqgu0h4@4ax.com> <1%rHg.107187$FQ1.28880@attbi_s71> <1156468772.022734.144660@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 04:04:56 GMT Hi! > Apple did not offer a > fix for the problem, opting instead to recall the entire production of > 100s and offering those who had already purchased one a very good > deal on the next model up. I'm not sure that's entirely correct. I seem to remember Apple offering a NiMH replacement battery instead of the Lithium Ion battery that shipped with the machine. William Article: 340617 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <8d365$44eeec14$d1cc5bb8$16828@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <18541-44EEF31D-6@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> <12eveca3uj2ufef@news.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 04:09:49 GMT Hi! > Old ones always seem to need a lot of coddling and patience on > the user's part to get through even basic stuff. Oh, I don't know. I think it depends upon what software you pick. http://www.walshcomptech.com/comp_coll.htm I really enjoy using my PS/2s. Generally speaking, they just don't quit...not even after a basement flood, at least for the most part. Besides, there's something about a computer with a solid *steel* casing (and a yellow "40+ pounds" warning sticker on the back) that just commands a bit of respect and admiration. I have powerful computing hardware, but unless the task I'm performing demands using it, I'm happy on a "lower end" machine. William Article: 340618 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Halli S-120 alignment... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 04:14:12 GMT Hello, Has anyone else performed an alignment on a Hallicrafter's S-120? I have been able to peak the IF and align the first three bands relatively easily(after calibrating my signal generator, long story), but the fourth band has been a PITA. The band covers 11-30 Mhz and I have been able to get the circuit to oscillate like crazy(obviously not want is wanted), but cannot lock on to the tone from the sig-gen. Those that have worked on a S-120, did you have trouble with this band? Thanks, Bobby KC9IHK Article: 340619 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Stephanie Weil" Subject: Re: Fabricating a stylus replacement Date: 25 Aug 2006 21:23:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1156566198.533774.223460@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Syl wrote: > Looks like that picture is meant to boost sales from "diamond" stylii > manufacturers... Even the record manufacturers recommend diamond styli for their LPs and 45s. On some older records I have, there was a thing at the bottom saying you should use diamond needles at X-weight for best results. > I'll let _you_ use a diamond or sapphire stylii on an early 78 record > playing with a 4 ounces magnetic cartridge. Yeah. I've seen what happens - I once took some 78 disks (from the 1940s or something) to play on my Saturday morning radio show back in school. I was using the regular LP needles - hey back then I thought, a needle is just a needle. You get some nice black powder ball accumulating on the needle. I wonder if that was just dirt...or was the needle actually scraping out the plastic from the surface?! The records didn't seem to be damaged. I gave them away a year later. -- Stephanie Weil New York City, NY Article: 340620 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: Subject: Re: Trans-Portable radio Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 20:57:26 -0700 Message-ID: <37mdnce8Tqp3UnLZnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com> > (Which reminds me...I'd really like to know how the tuning was done when > you > put the portable part back into the car...did the in-dash unit drive the > tuning dial on the portable unit, or did it pull the portable's tuner out > of > circuit and replace it with another one located in the in dash part?) If you look at the factory photo of the car's dashboard, you'll see a conventional tuning knob & dial, with pushbuttons. A note from a Buick owner mentions that the in-dash portion of the radio used an additional two transistors. Also note that the Trans-Portable had its own keyed lock inside the glovebox (which presumably had the normal lock). Phil Nelson Article: 340621 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Noble" References: <1156340416.910462.283150@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44ee5bb9$0$8835$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156510482.844784.234610@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mystery Turntable Date: Fri, 25 Aug 2006 22:14:36 -0700 Message-ID: <44efcb9d$0$8921$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> as the owner of a morgan +4, I can assure you that british wiring of the period has its "quirks" - one day a wire shorted out and flames shot out of the footwell, surprising my girlfriend quite a bit - I got the car home, examined the wiring and discoverd that there were 2 fuses in the whole car - one fused the horn only, one fused nothing at all. My improvement - redo the wiring and add fuses. (this is also the only car that I drove home with a broken crankshaft - also the only car I had to drive home with .....) - one day the generator field coil decided to entangle itself in the armature - I pulled the damaged half of the field coil out and ran it with half a field coil assembly for another decade until the generator front bearing failed. the stories could go on and on - the ar was fun because it was so easy to improve on - very interesting contrast to my 356a porsche "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1156510482.844784.234610@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > William Noble wrote: >> I like that TT design - what a great way to get infinitely variable speed >> without any control electronics - just "lovely" to use the vernacular of >> the >> time. > > Lovely, vastly over-engineered.... Very British. > > Today the Brits still make the world's best hobby-grade steam engines, > MUCH better than the Germans. For about the same reasons. > > http://www.pps-steam-models.co.uk/index.htm > > One need go no further than the original Jaguar XKE V-12, with six (6) > side-draft carburettors (Brit spelling, please) and whitworth nuts and > bolts... > > http://www.jag-lovers.org/xk-lovers/library/whitworth_system.html > > ... to have a very clear picture of the mind of a British Engineer. > > Mandatory Radio Content: The Lucas-engineered radios didn't work > either. > (OK, OK Lucas didn't make the radios... ) > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 340622 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 00:04:31 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <9chse2dpb48bl2m3h1p5jvoj96hdqgu0h4@4ax.com> <1%rHg.107187$FQ1.28880@attbi_s71> <1156468772.022734.144660@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> William R. Walsh wrote: > Hi! > >> Apple did not offer a >> fix for the problem, opting instead to recall the entire production of >> 100s and offering those who had already purchased one a very good >> deal on the next model up. > > I'm not sure that's entirely correct. I seem to remember Apple offering a > NiMH replacement battery instead of the Lithium Ion battery that shipped > with the machine. You must be thinking of another model. Lithium-Ions were not used in any powerbook of that era-they were all NiCads. The company I work for was an authorized Apple service center during the 1990s. I remember that we could not get any parts for the PB100 because Apple did a total recall of these systems and had the units they were able to get back crushed in a landfill to prevent them from ever appearing on the surplus market. The powerbook 100 was one of the cheapest apple computers of any kind you could buy at the time (Costco was even selling them for awhile for well under a thousand bucks), and it was really hobbled by a lack of necessary features. For this reason, they sold poorly, (especially compared to the other powerbook models which were selling like hotcakes) and when the problem came to light it was not probably not economically feasible to do a fix. -Scott Article: 340623 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 00:17:32 -0700 Message-ID: References: <8d365$44eeec14$d1cc5bb8$16828@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <18541-44EEF31D-6@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> <12eveca3uj2ufef@news.supernews.com> Buck Frobisher wrote: > New ones are so cheap now it's silly. > > Of course, we all have various ideas on te definition of "cheap", but I've > seen name brand one in our area regularly for C$600 with XP, and a bundled > package of tools (word processor, basic spreadsheet, not MS). > > Screens are bigger and brighter, graphics cards don't choke as easily, HDs > are big enough for real world stuff. Old ones always seem to need a lot of > coddling and patience on the user's part to get through even basic stuff. > > If you know what you are doing and understand the limitations of the hardware, an old laptop can still provide good service. The unit I am composing this post on is a Toshiba laptop I bought almost 7 years ago. It is running Windows 2000 with 96 MB of RAM in it. It is not fast, but it is way more stable now than when it was purchased with Windows 98 pre-loaded on it. At present, it is the only computer I have in the main part of the house. I just had a home remodel done and it is really awesome to be able to have a fully functional system that can live at the end of my kitchen counter as opposed to the enormous desk full of crap that I had before. -Scott Article: 340624 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Anyone have a schematic for an Emud T7? Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:42:32 +0900 Message-ID: References: -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! "Larry Fowkes" wrote in message news:jMmdne-Qe7Qq6XLZnZ2dnUVZ_rqdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Check your email. Thanks. :) Article: 340625 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Trans-Portable radio Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 00:35:45 -0700 Message-ID: References: <_KKdneSCpvsog3LZnZ2dnUVZ_oOdnZ2d@giganews.com> <1156525470.507138.318540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Jiri Placek wrote: > > Some European take-alongs like early Nordmende Globetrotters / > Globetravelers were even sold here. My Globetrotter can play circles > around Transoceanic 3000 and similar hyped multiband portables. Good luck trying to repair your Nordmende if it ever requires major service. I have one of the Globetraveller models that has problems and it is virtually impossible to service due to the way it's constructed. The Zenith transistor TOs are excellent radios then and now and are easy to work on. -Scott Article: 340626 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Mystery Turntable Date: 26 Aug 2006 03:29:14 -0700 Message-ID: <1156588154.780556.141320@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: William Noble wrote: > the stories could go on and on - the ar was fun because it was so easy to improve on - very interesting contrast to my 356a porsche No seatbelts and a handle to grab for dear something riding with a drunk sheep farmer-wheeeeeeeeee Article: 340627 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gerryu21220@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Fabricating a stylus replacement Date: 26 Aug 2006 03:41:56 -0700 Message-ID: <1156588916.366541.322560@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Syl wrote: > Actually, I make my own stylii for my phonos. How do you go about that? I would like to make a couple for modern magnetic cartridges. I hate the thought of spending $25 and up to buy one when I've got lots of stylii for ceramic cartridges laying around unused. I do recall one site where a guy simply snipped the shaft off of one flip-over needle and super-glued it right to the shaft of the magnetic needle. Even right over the existing diamond! Another somehow managed to remove the 3 mil sapphire from one and install it in place of the stereo diamond of the magnetic needle. Not sure I could manage that... Too tiny! Tips? Tricks? Also, is there a cheap source or way to make custom stylii? I would like to have one to play Blue Amberol 4 minute cylinders. I know you can make glass ball tips for the two-minute cylinders, but most of mine are the Blue Amberols. The tips are sort of round, kind of a doorknob shape. I think the size is about 3.5 to 3.7 mil. Can't afford to buy them at around $140. Regular needles work okay, but tons of excess noise... Gerry Article: 340628 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Recordio R-602 References: <1156552079.834021.18770@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 07:40:51 -0400 Many bad things happed to stored tube equipment. It probably needs a systematic overhaul, like an antique radio. It will help to have a schematic and some knowledge of electronics. Ken USSEnterprise wrote: > I just found one of these collecting dust in my basement. Its a reel to > reel recorder/player. I plugged it in and threw an old reel on, and > heard nothing. I then connected a microphone, but when I tried, it did > not amplify my voice. However, there is an input on it, so I connected > a CD player. I heard music. I'm guessing that the pre-amplifier is out. > Is this a correct assumption? What do I do to fix it? It uses four > tubes it looks like. Could one be bad? > Article: 340629 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1156536411.801337.209110@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156566198.533774.223460@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Fabricating a stylus replacement Message-ID: <%yXHg.87651$uL2.803277@wagner.videotron.net> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 08:57:34 -0400 "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:1156566198.533774.223460@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Syl wrote: > >> Looks like that picture is meant to boost sales from "diamond" stylii >> manufacturers... > > Even the record manufacturers recommend diamond styli for their LPs > and 45s. On some older records I have, there was a thing at the bottom > saying you should use diamond needles at X-weight for best results. Agreed, but the subject is about 78 records. > You get some nice black powder ball accumulating on the needle. I > wonder if that was just dirt...or was the needle actually scraping out > the plastic from the surface?! The needle was scraping the bottom of the groove. No real damage that time, but if you were to use a Sapphire or diamond stylus to play an early recording using a heavy reproducer, chances are you will risk a chance to "cut" the reocrd. There's been a thread on that subject not long ago. A member -Bruce Mercer IIRC- had the unfortunate experience of cutting in half a record that way... Syl Article: 340630 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Cubit" References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <44EE5AF6.3080309@swbell.net> Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 14:22:17 GMT Thanks for the heads-up on changes at sony. Is there a new premium name that one can rely upon for the best electronic products (without doing homework on each purchase)? "patrick jankowiak" wrote in message news:44EE5AF6.3080309@swbell.net... > David wrote: > >> On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:07:37 -0400, "Capt Video 2006!" >> wrote: >> >> >>>Looks like the Dell and Apple laptop battery fiasco >>>just might BANKRUPT Sony Corporation, so if your >>>looking for a Sony Shortwave, Scanner or other radio >>>product, you may want to buy it sooner than later.... >>> >>>--> http://tinyurl.com/ltf55 >>> >>>---> >>>http://www.forbes.com/markets/equities/2006/08/17/sony-update-0817marketscan01.html >>> >>>---> http://msnbc.msn.com/id/14502021/ >>> >>>---> http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/fn/4139283.html >>> >> >> Good riddance. > > In the past, the company did very well, even though the products and > service were costly they were of the highest quality. Once the founder, > Mr. Morita, passed away, the company became very poorly managed -left to > bean counters and lawyers who had no concept of the value of a tradition > of quality products or service. They made sweeping changes they would not > have dared to make while Morita-San was alive. Parts in machines that had > previously been cast or machined became stamped. Machined brass or > aluminum bosses holding mechanism guides and supports to a mechanism > baseplate became molded-in nylon strips and thin sheets with little > threaded and even -perish the though- press-fit bosses on them. Yes, > press-fit metal into nylon. Service quality also became secondary to > profit. That is, the service organization was no longer permitted to break > even in order to provide high value service, and the profit-center model > they implemented caused the quality of service to drop severely, even as > they raised the hourly rate to $150 (broadcast) and cheaply hired > inexperienced technicians right out of a 2-year course DeVry to work on > broadcast video gear. People I would not let loose on a CD palyer. Their > excuse was "hire from a diverse pool" but in reality that was not done. We > called them 20-20's because they were 20 years old and made $20K/Yr -and > they really had no concept of the fundamental theory behind most of the > equipment they worked on. I mean these guys could not tell you the > difference between a balanced and unbalanced signal, or why it was > important. Service center managers expected us 'old' guys to train them, > but the immaturity, laziness, and impatience of such folk won out as time > and time again the rework would come back. Customers would say that Sony > service was becoming no better than Panasonic's, a huge insult previously, > but it became close to the truth. The profit sharing plan dried up as the > hungry new 'hollywood' branch of the company, a gigantic business error, > sucked up money faster than a new york coke prostitue. They were paying > Michael Jackson's salary for a while too. It was a mess, and the spiral to > destruction was not slow, and is probably now irreversible. I left Sony > when they decided to consolidate alll service to one location and they > offered me the "opportunity" to move to Norcross GA (Atlanta) and work in > a 24-hour sweatshop, er.. hot-seat repair center. In the current center, I > was in charge of a 12x30 area with three 7' racks, a desk, computer, > phone, and workbench, with maybe $250K worh of test gear, and that is > where I did my repairs. I worked on high end NTSC and HDTV digital > broadcast and production products. Nothing I worked on cost less than > $5000 and most of it was in the 20K range. That was the level of > responsibility. The new place would have me coming in to a seat still warm > from someone's butt every morning, sharing a drawer full of possibly nasty > hand tools and maybe some potato chip crumbs, in a short workbench with no > desk, no racks and only a couple pieces of test gear, working on cheap VHS > or 8mm video tape recorders with two other people, and no computer or > phone, all assholes and elbows, butts to nuts with 300 other people in the > huge room, the hillbilly boss staring down from his loft on the second > floor, deciding which slave to beat. (we sent spies in ahead to check on > this) That is what they did to the service department and it is why Sony > service sucks now and why the products are not what they were. I could go > on, but there's no point. I think that was the best thing that Sony ever > did for us experienced people, shutting down the regional service centers. > Really gave our carreers a boost when we changed Jobs. Sony on your resume > used to mean something then. I wonder if it does now? Article: 340631 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: 26 Aug 2006 07:38:48 -0700 Message-ID: <1156603128.844440.291670@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> Cubit wrote: > Thanks for the heads-up on changes at sony. Is there a new premium name > that one can rely upon for the best electronic products (without doing > homework on each purchase)? You'll get it from whomever the company chooses as a vendor and likely never know unless there was a problem. Stop being paranoid. I can see the anti-Sony duo among you. Grow up. Stop crossposting a bazillion ways too. Google doesn't post to half of them. Article: 340632 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Speaker reconing -- try again Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:01:46 GMT Several days ago I posted a message regarding a 10" speaker for this Philco 41-605. The speaker cone didn't look bad, but the voice coil was rubbing a little. I took it to someone locally who rebuilds speakers; he called me back to tell me he cannot get a new voice coil that size. I went to pick up the speaker, only to find that he cut the original cone out -- so now I'm totally stuck. I posted a message here, and got a few responses with referrals -- along with testimonials on how great these guys are. I e-mailed the first one, nothing. I e-mailed the second one, nothing. I was about to e-mail the third, but I waited too long and Outlook has removed the messages from the screen. That's my reward for being patient. Is everybody running from me, or is there someone out there who is willing to rebuild a speaker? The customer is bugging me now . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 340633 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave R" References: <18078-44EF4C40-86@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: FedEX Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 11:23:59 -0400 Message-ID: <92fd6$44f06767$d1cc5b5c$31172@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> The golden rule I follow is whenever I ship something of value OR if I am waiting to get something sent to me, I always always always send it via Signature Confirmation. I've watched credit card thieves work their magic on vacant homes for sale for many years. The latest is they use a stolen CC to make an online or telephone purchase, then use a name and address of a former homeowner who's house is vacant or better yet up for sale. Place the order, pull the sign, UPS drops off package, thief picks it up after dark and drives away. Almost as bad as those who steal the mail and packages off the step or porch. Always send it via Signature Confirmation and you'll be OK wrote in message news:18078-44EF4C40-86@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net... > A few minutes ago a FedEX delivery guy left a package/box about two feet > square on the little front porch by the front door of the house catty > corner across the street from me,then he got back in the truck and drove > on up the street.There is usually somebody who lves there,but I guess no > one is there right now.Yesterday morning,two guys stole the outside > airconditioning unit from the vacant house next door to me,in broad open > daylight.I was sitting on my couch watching tv when it > happened,otherwise if I had seen what was happening,I would have called > the cops.Seems to me,FedEX and UPS and USPO and other delivery companies > should not leave packages at houses/apartments if no one is at home.I > bet a lot of packages get stolen like that. > cuhulin > Article: 340634 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "g. beat" <@> Subject: Weller documentation Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 11:33:12 -0500 Message-ID: After collecting Weller documentation (and notes) for the past 30 years, I have scanned (Adobe Acrobat) these Weller Tech Sheets, documents and notes -- some which not currently available from Weller's web site. Ken Grimm, K4XL will be posting these in the coming weeks on the at BAMA (BoatAnchor Manual Archive) web site. http://bama.sbc.edu/ Greg w9gb Article: 340635 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "DumpsterDiver" Subject: Filament Polarity for Antique Triodes? Date: 26 Aug 2006 09:48:49 -0700 Message-ID: <1156610929.182446.177340@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> In the process of fixing an old (ca 1923, I think) homebrew regenerative set, I need to replace and rewire the three tube sockets. After locating the necessary sockets, I noticed that they all have terminals labelled F+, F-, G and P (in clockwise order, looking down at the top of the socket). A couple of other sockets from the "junque box" have the same markings. I never really noticed this F+ and F- labelling before. Does it really matter for those old filament-type triode tubes (01-A, 00-A, 112-A, etc.? Apparently, some folks thought it did way back when, but WHY??? Thanks, DD Article: 340636 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Weller documentation References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 17:17:29 GMT g. beat <@ wrote: > After collecting Weller documentation (and notes) for the past 30 years, > I have scanned (Adobe Acrobat) these Weller Tech Sheets, documents and > notes -- some which not currently available from Weller's web site. Thank you. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 340637 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Homer J Simpson" References: Subject: Re: Weller documentation Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 17:54:20 GMT "g. beat >" <@ wrote in message news:yd2dnY-Zm81U6m3ZnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > After collecting Weller documentation (and notes) for the past 30 years, > I have scanned (Adobe Acrobat) these Weller Tech Sheets, documents and > notes -- > some which not currently available from Weller's web site. > > Ken Grimm, K4XL will be posting these in the coming weeks on the at BAMA > (BoatAnchor Manual Archive) web site. > http://bama.sbc.edu/ > > Greg > w9gb Great! Article: 340638 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: Subject: Re: Speaker reconing -- try again Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 14:02:01 -0400 Message-ID: Gary, first off you have to control your customers. In this business its very hard because they get super antsy once they know you can fix their set. You have to make them be patient. I am not always successful, but I am now giving "finish" times about double what I used to. Most speaker reconers are home operations. There are trips, vacations, family events. Its summer after all. Next, dont trust speakers to any reconer who is not in our antique radio field. 80% of reconers are doing musical instrument speakers only. I recommend Jackson Speaker service in Jackson, MI. Ron McGee. I sold all my reconing parts to him over 10 years ago, he still has many of them. 517-789-6400 or 517-789-8412. does a LOT of auto radio speakers. Also, Sound Remedy, in Collingswood, NJ. Do a white pages search. Rich Stamer. Mark Oppat. "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:unZHg.642$N84.323@trnddc08... > Several days ago I posted a message regarding a 10" speaker for this Philco > 41-605. > > The speaker cone didn't look bad, but the voice coil was rubbing a little. > I took it to someone locally who rebuilds speakers; he called me back to > tell me he cannot get a new voice coil that size. I went to pick up the > speaker, only to find that he cut the original cone out -- so now I'm > totally stuck. > > I posted a message here, and got a few responses with referrals -- along > with testimonials on how great these guys are. I e-mailed the first one, > nothing. I e-mailed the second one, nothing. I was about to e-mail the > third, but I waited too long and Outlook has removed the messages from the > screen. That's my reward for being patient. > > Is everybody running from me, or is there someone out there who is willing > to rebuild a speaker? The customer is bugging me now . . . > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > > Article: 340639 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Filament Polarity for Antique Triodes? Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 10:51:57 -0700 Message-ID: <17858-44F08A3D-206@storefull-3172.bay.webtv.net> References: <1156610929.182446.177340@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> >From DD >I never really noticed this F+ and F- >labelling before. Does it really matter for >those old filament-type triode tubes >(01-A, 00-A, 112-A, etc.? Apparently, >some folks thought it did way back when, >but WHY??? In theory at least, there's a small difference in grid bias value between the emissive part of the filament (or 'cathode') and the grid, making the grid slightly + or =96 relative to K. In actual practice, this small difference may or may not be noticible. It might show up most in a grid-leak detector, for instance. Bill(oc) Article: 340640 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Speaker reconing -- try again References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 14:05:34 -0400 Just got a spk back from him two weeks ago. Ken Gary Tayman wrote: > Several days ago I posted a message regarding a 10" speaker for this Philco > 41-605. > > The speaker cone didn't look bad, but the voice coil was rubbing a little. > I took it to someone locally who rebuilds speakers; he called me back to > tell me he cannot get a new voice coil that size. I went to pick up the > speaker, only to find that he cut the original cone out -- so now I'm > totally stuck. > > I posted a message here, and got a few responses with referrals -- along > with testimonials on how great these guys are. I e-mailed the first one, > nothing. I e-mailed the second one, nothing. I was about to e-mail the > third, but I waited too long and Outlook has removed the messages from the > screen. That's my reward for being patient. > > Is everybody running from me, or is there someone out there who is willing > to rebuild a speaker? The customer is bugging me now . . . > > > Article: 340641 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "DumpsterDiver" Subject: Re: Speaker reconing -- try again Date: 26 Aug 2006 11:15:59 -0700 Message-ID: <1156616159.756735.313780@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Last time I looked, the folks advertising re-coning service were quoting $50 or more. You might be able to find a suitable replacement speaker for less than that. There are lots of those early 1940's consoles out there, many junkers with decent speakers in them. I have a Philco 42-1012 with an electrodynamic speaker that The Wife is after me to get out of the house. I have been planning to fix it and sell it, but consoles like that are not easy to sell for a decent price, so maybe I'll just "parts" it out. I haven't checked the speaker out for operating condition, but it did give out a loud hum a couple of years ago when I did a quick "smoke test" on the set. I think the speaker is about 10" actual cone diameter (around 11 1/2" frame diameter). I don't know if this speaker is the same as the one you need, but just maybe ... Does the speaker have a part number stamped on it? The one I have is partially readable: ?65-1565-4?? DD Gary Tayman wrote: > Several days ago I posted a message regarding a 10" speaker for this Philco > 41-605. > > The speaker cone didn't look bad, but the voice coil was rubbing a little. > I took it to someone locally who rebuilds speakers; he called me back to > tell me he cannot get a new voice coil that size. I went to pick up the > speaker, only to find that he cut the original cone out -- so now I'm > totally stuck. > > I posted a message here, and got a few responses with referrals -- along > with testimonials on how great these guys are. I e-mailed the first one, > nothing. I e-mailed the second one, nothing. I was about to e-mail the > third, but I waited too long and Outlook has removed the messages from the > screen. That's my reward for being patient. > > Is everybody running from me, or is there someone out there who is willing > to rebuild a speaker? The customer is bugging me now . . . > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 340642 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Do you think this Zenith is worth that much? Date: 26 Aug 2006 11:27:16 -0700 Message-ID: <1156616836.476140.105500@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> If this is the same radio I saw in Peotone, Ill, the set is borderline. The seller doesn't photograph the inside of the set where I distinctly saw a glue like dripping substance coming from the bottom of the transformer, along with a burn discoloration on the metal chassis. Wow, so for $500 you get a marginal radio, and one that's trashed. Sorry CL Antiques, you are the weakest link. > Here you go. > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/VERY-RARE-1930-s-Zenith-5-R-226A-childs-console-radio_W0QQitemZ270020287712QQihZ017QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > I saw this set at a Hamfest in the Chicago area which went for alot > less. I'm just wondering if the seller is out of his mind or what? > And in this condition? Yeek!! Article: 340643 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: Subject: Re: Speaker reconing -- try again Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 14:57:32 -0400 Message-ID: <3c6dnfg9N_IpBW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@comcast.com> Gary, forgot to mention, for "quick fix" situations, put a PM speaker of same size in the set (prefer a 50's-60's console stereo type with stiff compliance like the original was) and keep the original speaker for the field filter in the power supply. Just mount the old speaker off to the side somewhere, and jump off the VC wires to the new one. Mark Oppat "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:unZHg.642$N84.323@trnddc08... > Several days ago I posted a message regarding a 10" speaker for this Philco > 41-605. > > The speaker cone didn't look bad, but the voice coil was rubbing a little. > I took it to someone locally who rebuilds speakers; he called me back to > tell me he cannot get a new voice coil that size. I went to pick up the > speaker, only to find that he cut the original cone out -- so now I'm > totally stuck. > > I posted a message here, and got a few responses with referrals -- along > with testimonials on how great these guys are. I e-mailed the first one, > nothing. I e-mailed the second one, nothing. I was about to e-mail the > third, but I waited too long and Outlook has removed the messages from the > screen. That's my reward for being patient. > > Is everybody running from me, or is there someone out there who is willing > to rebuild a speaker? The customer is bugging me now . . . > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > > Article: 340644 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <3c6dnfg9N_IpBW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Speaker reconing -- try again Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:05:27 GMT Actually we can do one better than that. It's a PM speaker to begin with, and the only thing special about it is the connector. So I wouldn't mind too much replacing the speaker with a new one -- if I knew where to find something similar. Do you have a source for such a suitable replacement? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:3c6dnfg9N_IpBW3ZnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@comcast.com... > Gary, forgot to mention, for "quick fix" situations, put a PM speaker of > same size in the set (prefer a 50's-60's console stereo type with stiff > compliance like the original was) and keep the original speaker for the > field filter in the power supply. Just mount the old speaker off to the > side somewhere, and jump off the VC wires to the new one. > Mark Oppat > > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:unZHg.642$N84.323@trnddc08... >> Several days ago I posted a message regarding a 10" speaker for this > Philco >> 41-605. >> >> The speaker cone didn't look bad, but the voice coil was rubbing a >> little. >> I took it to someone locally who rebuilds speakers; he called me back to >> tell me he cannot get a new voice coil that size. I went to pick up the >> speaker, only to find that he cut the original cone out -- so now I'm >> totally stuck. >> >> I posted a message here, and got a few responses with referrals -- along >> with testimonials on how great these guys are. I e-mailed the first one, >> nothing. I e-mailed the second one, nothing. I was about to e-mail the >> third, but I waited too long and Outlook has removed the messages from >> the >> screen. That's my reward for being patient. >> >> Is everybody running from me, or is there someone out there who is >> willing >> to rebuild a speaker? The customer is bugging me now . . . >> >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> >> >> >> > > > Article: 340645 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "k35454" References: <1156552079.834021.18770@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Recordio R-602 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 12:07:22 -0700 I handled Wilcox-Gay r-2-r machines around the time that some of the employees bought out the managemant. Their version featured a big innovation: a "transistor" pre-amp amongst the tubes.. The price of the sets went up and the quality went down, in my opinion. The firm soon went out of business. The machine is probably not worth restoring. k35454. "Ken" wrote in message news:yrWHg.7207$Tl4.4958@dukeread06... Many bad things happed to stored tube equipment. It probably needs a systematic overhaul, like an antique radio. It will help to have a schematic and some knowledge of electronics. Ken USSEnterprise wrote: > I just found one of these collecting dust in my basement. Its a reel to > reel recorder/player. I plugged it in and threw an old reel on, and > heard nothing. I then connected a microphone, but when I tried, it did > not amplify my voice. However, there is an input on it, so I connected > a CD player. I heard music. I'm guessing that the pre-amplifier is out. > Is this a correct assumption? What do I do to fix it? It uses four > tubes it looks like. Could one be bad? > Article: 340646 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Tape motor Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:24:06 GMT Hoo boy, these weird ones come in bundles . . . Now I've got an 8-track player from a Mustang, T8MZ. The problem is with the motor; it runs when it feels like it. If I insert a tape, it starts, then stops after a second or two. If I keep playing with it, it may run for awhile, but if I turn it off and back on, it won't run. The obvious place to start is the switch -- but I get 12 volts on both sides of the switch, and at the motor controller PCB. But on the "Motor speed regulator" I have 12 volts on the emitter, and near zero on the base and collector when the motor stops. I have around 12 volts on the base, and 6 volts emitter when running, which is normal. No amount of jiggling or tapping seems to have any effect. This "motor speed regulator" appears to be a PNP transistor, type P1V. According to Sams there is no replacement. So I'm sure that, for this reason alone, it's either the transistor or the motor, as anything else is fixable. Now -- to be honest I'm not even sure what I'm looking at, although obviously there's one wire that provides power to the motor and another wire which produces feedback according to speed. The transistor varies the output based on the signal fed to it. But what would make the motor stop? Could the transistor be intermittent is such a way as to open the base/emitter connection? Is there any way the motor could cause this? I've got the PCB out. I replaced the 390 ohm base resistor (220 in the Sams) because it was high -- around 500. I'm also suspicious of the electrolytic, and I want to buy a replacement. I've already resoldered connections to no avail. I guess I'll replace the electrolytic, then cross my fingers and pray -- but what if the problem remains? Any tips or suggestions? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 340647 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: Filament Polarity for Antique Triodes? Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:56:20 -0400 Message-ID: <1014c6233dcfe92519f5c8099994c5ff@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: <1156610929.182446.177340@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> I never really noticed this F+ and F- labelling before. Does it really matter for those old filament-type triode tubes (01-A, 00-A, 112-A, etc.? Apparently, some folks thought it did way back when, but WHY??? **If you look at your schematic you might find that the grids could use the filament as a bias voltage. That will make a major difference in operation. -Pete Article: 340648 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Tape motor Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 12:56:00 -0700 Message-ID: <18541-44F0A750-80@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: Gary: Put an ohmeter directly across the motor and rotate it slowly by hand. See if there's any intermittently open or shorted condition, which would indicate a bad commutator. oc Article: 340649 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 15:05:43 -0500 Subject: Re: Tape motor From: John Stone Message-ID: References: On 8/26/06 2:24 PM, in article qd1Ig.2177$p23.260@trnddc04, "Gary Tayman" wrote: > Hoo boy, these weird ones come in bundles . . . > > Now I've got an 8-track player from a Mustang, T8MZ. The problem is with > the motor; it runs when it feels like it. If I insert a tape, it starts, > then stops after a second or two. If I keep playing with it, it may run for > awhile, but if I turn it off and back on, it won't run. > > The obvious place to start is the switch -- but I get 12 volts on both sides > of the switch, and at the motor controller PCB. But on the "Motor speed > regulator" I have 12 volts on the emitter, and near zero on the base and > collector when the motor stops. I have around 12 volts on the base, and 6 > volts emitter when running, which is normal. No amount of jiggling or > tapping seems to have any effect. > > This "motor speed regulator" appears to be a PNP transistor, type P1V. > According to Sams there is no replacement. So I'm sure that, for this > reason alone, it's either the transistor or the motor, as anything else is > fixable. > > Now -- to be honest I'm not even sure what I'm looking at, although > obviously there's one wire that provides power to the motor and another wire > which produces feedback according to speed. The transistor varies the > output based on the signal fed to it. But what would make the motor stop? > Could the transistor be intermittent is such a way as to open the > base/emitter connection? Is there any way the motor could cause this? > > I've got the PCB out. I replaced the 390 ohm base resistor (220 in the > Sams) because it was high -- around 500. I'm also suspicious of the > electrolytic, and I want to buy a replacement. I've already resoldered > connections to no avail. I guess I'll replace the electrolytic, then cross > my fingers and pray -- but what if the problem remains? Any tips or > suggestions? > It may just be a bad motor. One of the poles may be open, so the motor stops when the brushes hit that position or won't start if the motor stopped in that position. Otherwise, I'd suspect the transistor. I would guess that just about any small PNP power transistor with the same size and basing would substitute. It can't be very critical. Article: 340650 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ken scharf Subject: Re: Filament Polarity for Antique Triodes? References: <1156610929.182446.177340@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:33:03 -0400 DumpsterDiver wrote: > In the process of fixing an old (ca 1923, I think) homebrew > regenerative set, I need to replace and rewire the three tube sockets. > After locating the necessary sockets, I noticed that they all have > terminals labelled F+, F-, G and P (in clockwise order, looking down at > the top of the socket). A couple of other sockets from the "junque box" > have the same markings. > > I never really noticed this F+ and F- labelling before. Does it really > matter for those old filament-type triode tubes (01-A, 00-A, 112-A, > etc.? Apparently, some folks thought it did way back when, but WHY??? > > Thanks, > > DD > On tubes with an inverted "V" or "M" shape filament it could make a difference, and such tubes were marked with + and - on the base diagrams. However tubes with a single vertical wire (or two parallel vertical wires) don't seem to be so marked. Most early standard base tubes did use inverted "V" filaments. Later tubes with 1.4 volt filaments used the vertical wire filaments and were not marked with + and - on the base diagrams. Article: 340651 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nesesu" Subject: Re: Tape motor Date: 26 Aug 2006 13:44:37 -0700 Message-ID: <1156625077.758830.16140@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: >From your description, Gary, it sounds like the motor is going open circuit.The most likely cause is worn out brushes, oily brushes, then the open commutator or coils as suggested by others. If you can find a similar motor in something else, you could probably exchange the brush assembly, otherwise you would need an exact replacement motor to work with the speed control. Neil S. Gary Tayman wrote: > Hoo boy, these weird ones come in bundles . . . > > Now I've got an 8-track player from a Mustang, T8MZ. The problem is with > the motor; it runs when it feels like it. If I insert a tape, it starts, > then stops after a second or two. If I keep playing with it, it may run for > awhile, but if I turn it off and back on, it won't run. > > The obvious place to start is the switch -- but I get 12 volts on both sides > of the switch, and at the motor controller PCB. But on the "Motor speed > regulator" I have 12 volts on the emitter, and near zero on the base and > collector when the motor stops. I have around 12 volts on the base, and 6 > volts emitter when running, which is normal. No amount of jiggling or > tapping seems to have any effect. > > This "motor speed regulator" appears to be a PNP transistor, type P1V. > According to Sams there is no replacement. So I'm sure that, for this > reason alone, it's either the transistor or the motor, as anything else is > fixable. > > Now -- to be honest I'm not even sure what I'm looking at, although > obviously there's one wire that provides power to the motor and another wire > which produces feedback according to speed. The transistor varies the > output based on the signal fed to it. But what would make the motor stop? > Could the transistor be intermittent is such a way as to open the > base/emitter connection? Is there any way the motor could cause this? > > I've got the PCB out. I replaced the 390 ohm base resistor (220 in the > Sams) because it was high -- around 500. I'm also suspicious of the > electrolytic, and I want to buy a replacement. I've already resoldered > connections to no avail. I guess I'll replace the electrolytic, then cross > my fingers and pray -- but what if the problem remains? Any tips or > suggestions? > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 340652 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Tape motor References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 16:47:11 -0400 Check that pwb for cracks and cold solder joints. The early ones were pretty bad. Ken Gary Tayman wrote: > Hoo boy, these weird ones come in bundles . . . > > Now I've got an 8-track player from a Mustang, T8MZ. The problem is with > the motor; it runs when it feels like it. If I insert a tape, it starts, > then stops after a second or two. If I keep playing with it, it may run for > awhile, but if I turn it off and back on, it won't run. > > The obvious place to start is the switch -- but I get 12 volts on both sides > of the switch, and at the motor controller PCB. But on the "Motor speed > regulator" I have 12 volts on the emitter, and near zero on the base and > collector when the motor stops. I have around 12 volts on the base, and 6 > volts emitter when running, which is normal. No amount of jiggling or > tapping seems to have any effect. > > This "motor speed regulator" appears to be a PNP transistor, type P1V. > According to Sams there is no replacement. So I'm sure that, for this > reason alone, it's either the transistor or the motor, as anything else is > fixable. > > Now -- to be honest I'm not even sure what I'm looking at, although > obviously there's one wire that provides power to the motor and another wire > which produces feedback according to speed. The transistor varies the > output based on the signal fed to it. But what would make the motor stop? > Could the transistor be intermittent is such a way as to open the > base/emitter connection? Is there any way the motor could cause this? > > I've got the PCB out. I replaced the 390 ohm base resistor (220 in the > Sams) because it was high -- around 500. I'm also suspicious of the > electrolytic, and I want to buy a replacement. I've already resoldered > connections to no avail. I guess I'll replace the electrolytic, then cross > my fingers and pray -- but what if the problem remains? Any tips or > suggestions? > > > Article: 340653 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: clean grunow on ebay Date: 26 Aug 2006 14:26:19 -0700 Message-ID: <1156627579.679610.230350@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> of course not mine. super clean! little on the high side, but really nice, http://cgi.ebay.com/1934-Grunow-All-Wave-Superheterodyne-Console-Radio_W0QQitemZ170022978074QQihZ007QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Article: 340654 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "wagil" Subject: Moskowitz & Herbach company radios and components Date: 26 Aug 2006 14:36:20 -0700 Message-ID: <1156628180.472704.185660@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Can anyone see if there are any radios or radio components manufactured by the Moskowitz & Herbach company, located at 512 Market St. in Philadelphia, listed in a 1924-25-26 electronics catalog. I would apprecate any help/info/clues about this comapny. I am researching radios manufactured in Philadelphia in the 1920s. Thanks Wayne g wagil@aol.com Article: 340655 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <1156627579.679610.230350@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: clean grunow on ebay Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 18:20:41 -0400 Message-ID: I have one of those I purchased from Mark Oppat a couple years ago. Very good set with p/p 45 outputs. Built like the proverbial brick sh!t house, weighs a bloody ton. Larry Fowkes "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1156627579.679610.230350@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > of course not mine. super clean! little on the high side, but really > nice, > > http://cgi.ebay.com/1934-Grunow-All-Wave-Superheterodyne-Console-Radio_W0QQitemZ170022978074QQihZ007QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > Article: 340656 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:23:08 -0400 Message-ID: <12f1lv052288qf5@news.supernews.com> References: <8d365$44eeec14$d1cc5bb8$16828@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <18541-44EEF31D-6@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> <12eveca3uj2ufef@news.supernews.com> "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:ecose50he5@news4.newsguy.com... > Buck Frobisher wrote: >> New ones are so cheap now it's silly. >> >> Of course, we all have various ideas on te definition of "cheap", but >> I've seen name brand one in our area regularly for C$600 with XP, and a >> bundled package of tools (word processor, basic spreadsheet, not MS). >> >> Screens are bigger and brighter, graphics cards don't choke as easily, >> HDs are big enough for real world stuff. Old ones always seem to need a >> lot of coddling and patience on the user's part to get through even basic >> stuff. > If you know what you are doing and understand the limitations of the > hardware, an old laptop can still provide good service. That was my point: coddling. As William R Walsh and you both correctly point out, IF you know what you are doing and IF you are careful with software choices, they CAN be just as reliable and, as a side effect, more resistant to attacks than modern machines. But admit it guys, you two are treating the old machines as another hobby, and have become experts. That's another newsgroup, three doors down :) I'm talking about expecting computing to be a bit more like using the phone: simple. A modern phone, that is. Article: 340657 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: pgonshor@aol.com Subject: 5500 Radio Items on ebay - not mine Date: 26 Aug 2006 16:33:41 -0700 Message-ID: <1156635221.372177.5470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> There are 5599 antique radio items currently on ebay. None of them are mine. Some I like. Some I don't. I haven't bid yet. Just thought I'd let you know. :') Dave Article: 340658 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 5500 Radio Items on ebay - not mine Date: 26 Aug 2006 16:41:34 -0700 Message-ID: <1156635694.791061.250240@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1156635221.372177.5470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> pgons...@aol.com wrote: > There are 5599 antique radio items currently on ebay. None of them are > mine. Some I like. Some I don't. I haven't bid yet. Just thought > I'd let you know. :') > Dave My eBay says I have 0 items for sale, and I need a lover who won't drive me crazy. Some girl who knows the meaning of, "Hey, hit the highway"! Article: 340659 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 18:39:48 -0500 Message-ID: <3069-44F0DBC4-295@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <12f1lv052288qf5@news.supernews.com> How about www.datawind.com cuhulin Article: 340660 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: 26 Aug 2006 16:46:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1156635981.087571.134980@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <8d365$44eeec14$d1cc5bb8$16828@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> Buck Frobisher wrote: > "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message > news:ecose50he5@news4.newsguy.com... > > Buck Frobisher wrote: > >> New ones are so cheap now it's silly. > >> > >> Of course, we all have various ideas on te definition of "cheap", but > >> I've seen name brand one in our area regularly for C$600 with XP, and a > >> bundled package of tools (word processor, basic spreadsheet, not MS). > >> > >> Screens are bigger and brighter, graphics cards don't choke as easily, > >> HDs are big enough for real world stuff. Old ones always seem to need a > >> lot of coddling and patience on the user's part to get through even basic > >> stuff. > > If you know what you are doing and understand the limitations of the > > hardware, an old laptop can still provide good service. > > That was my point: coddling. As William R Walsh and you both correctly > point out, IF you know what you are doing and IF you are careful with > software choices, they CAN be just as reliable and, as a side effect, more > resistant to attacks than modern machines. > > But admit it guys, you two are treating the old machines as another hobby, > and have become experts. That's another newsgroup, three doors down :) > I'm talking about expecting computing to be a bit more like using the phone: > simple. A modern phone, that is. I have a Stromberg Carlson rotary c.1979. I really can't help you with that. Article: 340661 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: 5500 Radio Items on ebay - not mine Date: 26 Aug 2006 16:57:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1156636631.808511.6330@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1156635221.372177.5470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > There are 5599 antique radio items currently on ebay. None of them are > mine. Some I like. Some I don't. I haven't bid yet. Just thought > I'd let you know. :') > Dave You should have checked out that sale today, Dave. Lots of parts and misc. Practically giving away much of it. A lot I picked up will be showing up on Ebay soon. I did get the Sparton 1068 console in excellent shape (keeper, not cheap). 10 tube Midwest chassis/speaker either 10-34 or 10-35. The owners family decided to keep the tiny Philco 1950 TV. Massive 20 Amp variac. Unbuilt Heathkit project. Not a lot of tubes. Sheesh, I loaded up my car. From adouglasatgis.net Sun Aug 27 13:03:49 EDT 2006 Article: 340662 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Moskowitz & Herbach company radios and components Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 20:02:05 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Lines: 6 Message-ID: <54o1f21l0dk72ks56eb4dqca2rgg1jf983@4ax.com> References: <1156628180.472704.185660@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-243.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:340662 Hi, M&H is listed in the August 1925 Radio Trade Directory as making RF transformers (and possibly other things, but I'd have to search each category). There is no listing in the 1923-24 Radio Dealer Year Book. Alan Article: 340663 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 09:21:57 +0900 Message-ID: References: <8d365$44eeec14$d1cc5bb8$16828@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <18541-44EEF31D-6@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> <12eveca3uj2ufef@news.supernews.com> <12f1lv052288qf5@news.supernews.com> <44F0DCA6.FC915A6B@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44F0DCA6.FC915A6B@earthlink.net... > Buck Frobisher wrote: >> >> That was my point: coddling. As William R Walsh and you both correctly >> point out, IF you know what you are doing and IF you are careful with >> software choices, they CAN be just as reliable and, as a side effect, >> more >> resistant to attacks than modern machines. >> >> But admit it guys, you two are treating the old machines as another >> hobby, >> and have become experts. That's another newsgroup, three doors down :) >> I'm talking about expecting computing to be a bit more like using the >> phone: >> simple. A modern phone, that is. > > > Have you looked at a new phone? Its the old phones that were simple > to use. The new ones do everything except open the garage door and > change channels on your TV. > > Some will even peform those functions. -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! Article: 340664 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1156635221.372177.5470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 5500 Radio Items on ebay - not mine Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 18:05:49 -0700 Message-ID: Thanks for the tip. Gawrsh, Mickey, what an eye opener. It never would have occurred to me to search erBay (is that what you call that place?) for something like an old radio! My life has changed forever. Please keep posting messages about things for sale on erBay -- preferably several erBay ads per day. The more erBay ads you post, the less we need to think. And if the auctions are listed by you or your cronies, that's all part of the fun!!! Like everyone else in this newsgroup, I am much too stupid to browse erBay on my own. And, just like you, I find it delightful if someone points me to, say, five things per day so I don't have to bother sifting through 5,000 or 6,000 radios to see what I might like better or buy more cheaply. P.S. What was that URL again? And what is a "shill" ? :-) Phil "not mine either, and never will be" Nelson Article: 340665 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Beloved Leader" Subject: Re: Looking for a Trade Date: 26 Aug 2006 18:12:20 -0700 Message-ID: <1156641140.579598.103450@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1156515424.465254.269150@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > Beloved Leader wrote: > > Peter Wieck wrote: > > > I have two Original US-made AR Integrated Amplifiers. Oh, my mistake. For some reason, I immediately thought of the Heathkit AR-15 receiver, was also available as a separate AJ-15 tuner and AA-15 integrated amplifier. Sorry. Article: 340666 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: 5500 Radio Items on ebay - not mine Date: 26 Aug 2006 18:40:59 -0700 Message-ID: <1156642859.524760.304310@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1156635221.372177.5470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Phil Nelson wrote: > Thanks for the tip. Gawrsh, Mickey, what an eye opener. > And if the auctions are listed by you or your cronies, that's all part of > the fun!!! > > P.S. What was that URL again? And what is a "shill" ? > > :-) > > Phil "not mine either, and never will be" Nelson Gee Phil, lighten up! Article: 340667 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave.H" Subject: Re: Operatic Model 45M Date: 26 Aug 2006 18:41:04 -0700 Message-ID: <1156642864.471959.81180@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1156464715.484737.151440@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Anything I should get replaced in it other than the electrolytic caps? I want to make a list what needs to be replaced before I get it professionally repaired. What about the paper capacitors in it? I've heard they are unreliable. Article: 340668 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <1156635221.372177.5470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 5500 Radio Items on ebay - not mine Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 02:17:16 GMT Hi! > Thanks for the tip. Gawrsh, Mickey, what an eye opener. Sounds like that hit a nerve. I actually enjoyed seeing the statistic, and honestly wouldn't have thought to just search eBay like that. (So far I haven't had to turn to eBay in search of a radio. I'm not far enough along to want anything specific.) William Article: 340669 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "graham" References: <1156635221.372177.5470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 5500 Radio Items on ebay - not mine Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:18:55 -0700 Message-ID: <5rOdnTbuWrSTnGzZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com> wrote in message news:1156635221.372177.5470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > There are 5599 antique radio items currently on ebay. None of them are > mine. Some I like. Some I don't. I haven't bid yet. Just thought > I'd let you know. :') .. well Dave, you are most likely cheap, bid on the ones you don't like and pass on the ones you do ... and next time, do not feel obligated to let us know .. Article: 340670 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <37mdnce8Tqp3UnLZnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com> Subject: Re: Trans-Portable radio Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 02:20:32 GMT Hi! > If you look at the factory photo of the car's dashboard, you'll see a > conventional tuning knob & dial, with pushbuttons. Yes, but...how was the tuning actually *done*? Did they rig up a system to drive the tuning wheel on the portable part? Or was the portable's built in tuner deactivated and replaced by one in the dash unit? > A note from a > Buick owner mentions that the in-dash portion of the radio used an > additional two transistors. I saw that and would guess that these would be for voltage regulation and/or audio amplification. William Article: 340671 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "graham" References: <1156515424.465254.269150@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156541336.097313.8010@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156545894.750441.280640@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156641140.579598.103450@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Looking for a Trade Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 19:27:21 -0700 Message-ID: "Beloved Leader" wrote in message news:1156641140.579598.103450@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > Peter Wieck wrote: >> Beloved Leader wrote: >> > Peter Wieck wrote: >> > > I have two Original US-made AR Integrated Amplifiers. > > Oh, my mistake. For some reason, I immediately thought of the Heathkit > AR-15 receiver, was also available as a separate AJ-15 tuner and AA-15 > integrated amplifier. .. you might have confused AR's by out by Jensen International, they have introduced 5 integrated amps since the one Peter is talking about ... the A-03, A-04. A-05, A-06 and the A-07 all where made offshore ... all between 1986 & 1989 ... .. the AR Amplifier/Universal, the model Peter is talking about, was made in the USA from 1969 to 1974 and is a totally different beast ... Article: 340672 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Tape motor Message-ID: References: <44F0DF51.61DA511D@earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 02:27:33 GMT >Gee, I might be in luck. My ECG book sez a 185 will replace a P1V. However >it is silicon, and is a T-128 case. Looks maybe correct, depending on >size -- this one's small. However I thought it was germanium, as the >voltages in Sams show a 0.2v drop emitter to base. I'll have to check with >my local parts store -- if it's there and cheap, (not $30 like most >germanium powers) I'll put in a new one. Gary, I recall working on an old cassette player which used a cam-operated switch to control the auto-eject. As long as the takeup spool was turning, the switch would cycle and repeatedly discharge a small electrolytic cap that was part of a time-base circuit. If the takeup spool stopped turning, the cap would reach a high enough voltage to switch on a transistor that in turn powered the eject solenoid. I describe that because I'm wondering if maybe the yellow wire in that motor is a switched contact that is used to create pulses for speed reference? Gordon Richmond Article: 340673 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <8d365$44eeec14$d1cc5bb8$16828@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <18541-44EEF31D-6@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> <12eveca3uj2ufef@news.supernews.com> <12f1lv052288qf5@news.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Message-ID: <8v7Ig.13289$aJ.11297@attbi_s21> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 02:32:36 GMT Hi! > But admit it guys, you two are treating the old machines as another hobby, > and have become experts. A hobby, yes. An expert? Oh, maybe here and maybe there. (http://greyghost.dyndns.org/mcastuff/) I still learn something now and again about these--just finished converting one to fast/wide SCSI all the way! (Zoom!) I think people should take the time to understand at least a little about their computer, new or old. They don't have to become experts, but a little knowledge would help prevent a lot of this oh-so-common spyware/malware/adware/virus garbage. > I'm talking about expecting computing to be a bit more like using the > phone: simple. A modern phone, that is. A quote that (far as I know) was made by Bjorn Stroustrup: "I used to dream of the day when my computer would be as eay to use as my mobile phone. It has happened, I no longer know how to use my phone." I'll try to stop furthering this OT thread for now... William Article: 340674 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156616836.476140.105500@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Do you think this Zenith is worth that much? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 02:39:42 GMT "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1156616836.476140.105500@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Sorry CL Antiques, you are the weakest link. > > At least they aren't NARU right now. jim menning Article: 340675 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "DumpsterDiver" Subject: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: 26 Aug 2006 19:44:25 -0700 Message-ID: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Everybody's seen those "last minute shoot-outs" on Ebay, but I can't remember ever seeing first hour action like this one .... $2800+ within one hour of listing! And the pictures are TERRIBLE! If you download em and futz & fiddle with the brightness and contrast, you can sorta make out what this item is, but it's a real struggle. The seller started it at $4.99 ... and I figured I might cop it for $20 or so if I waited till the last minute. Oh well ... Betcha the seller's a little surprised too! Ebay Item # 140023097756 (sorry, couldn't get the link to paste correctly, but this one's worth the extra effort to search it up). DD Article: 340676 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 21:33:55 -0500 Message-ID: <3069-44F10493-315@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: I own some old telephones.I am looking straight at a made in Sweden sort of a stylish telephone that I own,I think it dates back to the 1960's or 1970's.I dont see any words on it.The dialer thingy is on the bottom of the telephone.And I own a Western Electric brass candlestick telephone,it doesn't have a dialer on it,it came that way from the factory,it is at least 100 years old or older.And I own a Western Electric desk/table top telephone that does have the dialer on it,I once saw the date 1933 on something inside of the telephone.And I own a Western Electric telephone that dates back to the 1940's or 1950's.And I own a Western Electric Princess telephone and another telephone that looks like that one,I dont remember the name brand of it,it isn't a Western Electric,it's floatin around here somewhere.I own several other old telephones too.My old buddy also owns some old telephones. cuhulin Article: 340677 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lee Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 22:58:45 -0400 Message-ID: References: <3069-44F10493-315@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > I own some old telephones.I am looking straight at a made in Sweden sort > of a stylish telephone that I own,I think it dates back to the 1960's or > 1970's.I dont see any words on it.The dialer thingy is on the bottom of > the telephone. Sounds like an ericaphone. See: >www.danripley.com/catalogs/modernauctioncatalog/Image_0011_0027_0001_Thumb.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.danripley.com/catalogs/modernauctioncatalog/InvCat_0016.htm&h=88&w=125&sz=3&hl=en&start=4&tbnid=de7G9ocBAx00JM:&tbnh=59&tbnw=84&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dericaphone%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG Regards Lee Article: 340678 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniel Russell" Subject: Emerson Radio Volume Problem Date: 26 Aug 2006 20:18:52 -0700 Message-ID: <1156648732.898648.313670@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Hi group, I am still here trying to work out this volume bug on my Emerson 6 tube radio that i still can not identify. The tubes are 6SQ7, 6SA7, 6SG7, 6K6, 5Y3, 6SK7, and a 6U5 Tuning eye. It have 2 SW bands and a BC band. The cabinet is a table top model with a top mount slanted slide rule, with 4 knobs and horizontal wooden speaker grill. The volume control does not work, it is low all the time. When adjusted from about 3/4 to full what sound i have is reduced in half. Tonight I found 5 tubes testing weak or shorted. I had 3 in a box which tested well and replaced them. The tubes i could not replace were a 6K6 that was missing the normal shorts on setup D & K on my Mighty Mite III tester, the other tube 6SQ7 which i think is the audio amplifier tests good on leakage, and shorts fail setup D&E emission setup, and passes setup B. If anyone knows anything about the Sencore TC130 Mighty Mite III tube setup and has an idea if i am on the right track thinking this tube will cause the volume to be inop please email me, it will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Dan Russell Article: 340679 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: 5500 Radio Items on ebay - not mine References: <1156635221.372177.5470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156635694.791061.250240@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 03:45:53 GMT Skippy wrote: > My eBay says I have 0 items for sale, and I need a lover who won't > drive me crazy. Some girl who knows the meaning of, "Hey, hit the > highway"! With you, it's as easy as "Hi, my name's Steven." Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 340680 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Art's Antique Radios" References: <1156635221.372177.5470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <5rOdnTbuWrSTnGzZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: 5500 Radio Items on ebay - not mine Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 22:51:12 -0500 Message-ID: <0uWdnQPQY88wi2zZnZ2dnUVZ_qqdnZ2d@comcast.com> Actually the 5500 is low. But that has to do with Labor day next weekend. In the fall it will easily approach 7500-8000 radio items "graham" wrote in message news:5rOdnTbuWrSTnGzZnZ2dnUVZ_t6dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > wrote in message > news:1156635221.372177.5470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> There are 5599 antique radio items currently on ebay. None of them are >> mine. Some I like. Some I don't. I haven't bid yet. Just thought >> I'd let you know. :') > > > .. well Dave, you are most likely cheap, bid on the ones you don't > like and pass on the ones you do ... and next time, do not feel > obligated to let us know .. > Article: 340681 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: Subject: Re: Help with open reel playback (slightly OT?) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 03:51:19 GMT I have been dealing with this a lot lately. Most of the time the fault is with the choice of gear (computer and tape recorder) involved. First: Does the rate of the hum change if you change tape speeds? If so, it's in the tape. If not there are other possibilities. Some old recorders had amplifiers connected directly to the AC line like AC/DC radios. These WILL cause problems with most computers. An isolation transformer may help but may not. The first thing to do is see if the tape plays the same way through speakers or headphones. Also try the recorder with no tape. If the hum is still there the playing recorder is at fault. If the recorder has been sitting for some time the filters and other caps are probably bad. A bad hum on playback can also come from a bad preamp tube or a failed filter in a DC heater supply. Some computer sound cards or onboard sound systems will produce bad hums when hooked up to outside equipment. This is a design flaw in either the sound system or the power supply or both. Also, HOW are you connecting the player to the computer? From what jack? TO what jack? Do NOT use the microphone input on the computer. You say you have several machines? How many have you tried playing this tape on? Ray "dave" wrote in message news:RXkGg.610$Db4.72247@news1.epix.net... > Hello, > > I am not sure if this is a good forum for this inquiry, or if one exists, > but here goes: > > I am trying to play back a very old open-reel tape recording for a friend > of > mine. It has some home recordings of deceased family members, etc. So > basically I am trying to do audio archiving for him. I own several old > open > reel machines which generally have not seen much use to this point and I > am > certainly no expert on the format. > > The problem I am having is that the audio in the track/tracks where the > voices are recorded has a severe 60 Hz hum over top of it. The hum is > very > even in amplitude and is so strong that it sounds like it is modulating > the > fairly faint voices underneath. I am recording to my computer and have > tried filtering the hum out with software but the audio is still garbled > from the strong 60 Hz signal. I am thinking that the head on the machine > that was used to record these voice tracks was aligned a little off to one > side or something like that and that I might be able to get a much cleaner > take if I were able to move the head on one of my machines to align better > with the track. I am not talking about azimuth angle but actual side to > side alignment. I am not sure if this even makes sense but it is the only > thing I could think of. If anybody has a better idea on this topic, I > would > be most appreciative hearing from you. > > > thanks, > > Dave > > Article: 340682 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Art's Antique Radios" References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2006 22:53:23 -0500 Message-ID: <7NydnYwUE5GsimzZnZ2dnUVZ_t-dnZ2d@comcast.com> already up to $5200 But it is basically two guys who want it badly and they have too much money :) "DumpsterDiver" wrote in message news:1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > Everybody's seen those "last minute shoot-outs" on Ebay, but I can't > remember ever seeing first hour action like this one .... $2800+ > within one hour of listing! > > And the pictures are TERRIBLE! If you download em and futz & fiddle > with the brightness and contrast, you can sorta make out what this item > is, but it's a real struggle. > > The seller started it at $4.99 ... and I figured I might cop it for $20 > or so if I waited till the last minute. Oh well ... > > Betcha the seller's a little surprised too! > > Ebay Item # 140023097756 (sorry, couldn't get the link to paste > correctly, but this one's worth the extra effort to search it up). > > > DD > Article: 340683 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:48:15 GMT I've been watching this one for a few hours, found it when it was just put up for auction. There is one guy in particular bidding on it, bigalarsen, been watching the stuff he has been winning (been outbid by him several times). He must have an incredible collection by now. -- Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Article: 340684 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" Subject: FA: 1935 Grunow 11 tube console (not mine!) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 01:47:29 -0400 Message-ID: These are very nice radios. Built like a brick shithouse. This might be the same model I sold to Larry Fowkes several years ago. ... Mark Oppat http://cgi.ebay.com/1934-Grunow-All-Wave-Superheterodyne-Console-Radio_W0QQitemZ170022978074QQihZ007QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Article: 340685 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" Subject: FA: 13 tube W/G made Airline console (not mine) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 01:52:22 -0400 Message-ID: my buddy Dan is moving out a few nice higher end consoles, this is one. I have the 6F 16 tube version, have yet to restore it. But this one is darn close, and better than my 6F: It has original finish. http://cgi.ebay.com/1936-13-tube-Truetone-Wells-Gardner-console-radio_W0QQitemZ230022260592QQihZ013QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Mark Oppat Article: 340686 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" Subject: FA: 1938 Silvertone... somebody needs to make this bezel! Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 01:57:30 -0400 Message-ID: I have owned and seen so many of this model set with the bezel in poor shape or missing. Someone here needs to make a good version of it! I think take an existing one and cut it in 6 places to expand it out about 3/8" total across and 1/4" height. The original is Tenite. Crappy stuff. Anyone who made this bezel could probably sell 50 of them in 2 years for $30 each. http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Vintage-Sears-Silvertone-Console-Radio_W0QQitemZ250022639215QQihZ015QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem just my thoughts. Mark Oppat Article: 340687 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 5500 Radio Items on ebay - not mine Date: 26 Aug 2006 23:15:17 -0700 Message-ID: <1156659317.808103.231920@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156635221.372177.5470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> AuroraOldRadios wrote: > Phil Nelson wrote: > > Thanks for the tip. Gawrsh, Mickey, what an eye opener. > > > And if the auctions are listed by you or your cronies, that's all part of > > the fun!!! > > > > P.S. What was that URL again? And what is a "shill" ? > > > > :-) > > > > Phil "not mine either, and never will be" Nelson > Gee Phil, lighten up! Yeah, yer ass is draggin' and yer boobs and knuckles are running a close second and third there. Do mellow? Article: 340688 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1156627579.679610.230350@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: clean grunow on ebay Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 02:25:49 -0400 Message-ID: Hilarious. I didnt see this post but posted the link too... and, same comment! Just happened onto the same eBay listing tonight. Mark Oppat "Larry Fowkes" wrote in message news:MfSdndwL7bStVG3ZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com... > I have one of those I purchased from Mark Oppat a couple years ago. Very > good set with p/p 45 outputs. Built like the proverbial brick sh!t house, > weighs a bloody ton. > > Larry Fowkes > > > "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message > news:1156627579.679610.230350@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > of course not mine. super clean! little on the high side, but really > > nice, > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/1934-Grunow-All-Wave-Superheterodyne-Console-Radio_W0QQitemZ170022978074QQihZ007QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > Article: 340689 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: Subject: Re: Speaker reconing -- try again Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 02:27:27 -0400 Message-ID: <6ZCdnTEzLLr7p2zZnZ2dnUVZ_rCdnZ2d@comcast.com> Gary, I just sent you and email. I have a speaker that is the right size and a PM type. a lot cheaper than a recone if you dont care about it being a Philco spker. Mark Oppat "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:Yw6Ig.1766$pX3.270@trnddc07... > I just heard from one of them, and I'll be sending the speaker out. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:unZHg.642$N84.323@trnddc08... > > Several days ago I posted a message regarding a 10" speaker for this > > Philco 41-605. > > > > The speaker cone didn't look bad, but the voice coil was rubbing a little. > > I took it to someone locally who rebuilds speakers; he called me back to > > tell me he cannot get a new voice coil that size. I went to pick up the > > speaker, only to find that he cut the original cone out -- so now I'm > > totally stuck. > > > > I posted a message here, and got a few responses with referrals -- along > > with testimonials on how great these guys are. I e-mailed the first one, > > nothing. I e-mailed the second one, nothing. I was about to e-mail the > > third, but I waited too long and Outlook has removed the messages from the > > screen. That's my reward for being patient. > > > > Is everybody running from me, or is there someone out there who is willing > > to rebuild a speaker? The customer is bugging me now . . . > > > > > > > > -- > > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > > > > > > > > Article: 340690 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format From: "Weldon Nudlpudl" References: <1156426625.977398.140890@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 06:50:31 GMT On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:37:06 GMT, 455 Pontiac on premium Sunoco-chariot of the gods wrote: > and proves that after you got several warnings, you hid your spare ISP > username for a while- How foolish you are! I sent essentially just that message on 9 August! What happened was that my ISP choked twice on that day (before the third, sucessful try) as I was sending it, but my client held onto the earlier attempts and tried again, days later (successfully). Meanwhile, as recently as 13 August, well after those empty warnings, I posted to this group. > how did that taste, little cowering girly ?? What sort of demented power fantasy is this? Article: 340691 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: 27 Aug 2006 00:16:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1156663004.797829.193050@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> patrick jankowiak wrote: > Steven wrote: > > > Cubit wrote: > > > >>Thanks for the heads-up on changes at sony. Is there a new premium name > >>that one can rely upon for the best electronic products (without doing > >>homework on each purchase)? > > > > > > You'll get it from whomever the company chooses as a vendor and likely > > never know unless there was a problem. Stop being paranoid. I can see > > the anti-Sony duo among you. > > > > Grow up. Stop crossposting a bazillion ways too. Google doesn't post to > > half of them. > > > > Not anti-sony, reporting of facts as they occurred in the past, that > is all. Your following remarks are irrelevant. end of line. You're telling ME about EOL? PS Michael Jackson had a legal, binding CONTRACT with Epic records, a company that was owned by Sony (not sure if that's the case unless I'm kust mixed up by AC/DCs ATCO catalog work showing up there recently). I also think the artist has acquired use of his catalog much the same as the members of Queen did when they got their own label. However that works, I seem to recall R Kelly continued making records after the sex tape incident and also that it's completely up to you as to whether you choose to buy a product or not. Michael, for better or worse was acquitted of the last bunch of charges and not being convicted as such a company with a binding contract has a choice of what to do about the artist's required output. If you have a beef about that, is ISN'T on topic for this group or any of the others that Xpost here lately, not even rec.radio.cb. Go pleasure yourself Patty. Article: 340692 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: The Kat Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Message-ID: References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> <44EE5AF6.3080309@swbell.net> <44F13C67.8050408@swbell.net> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 07:20:37 GMT On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 06:32:09 GMT, patrick jankowiak wrote: WHY in the FUCK are you continuing this thread in a SCANNER newsgroup?? Lumber Cartel (tinlc) #2063. Spam this account at your own risk. This sig censored by the Office of Home and Land Insecurity... Remove XYZ to email me Article: 340693 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Emerson Radio Volume Problem Date: 27 Aug 2006 00:25:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1156663524.331517.133170@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156648732.898648.313670@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Daniel Russell wrote: > Hi group, > I am still here trying to work out this volume bug on my Emerson 6 tube > radio that i still can not identify. The tubes are 6SQ7, 6SA7, 6SG7, > 6K6, 5Y3, 6SK7, and a 6U5 Tuning eye. It have 2 SW bands and a BC band. > The cabinet is a table top model with a top mount slanted slide rule, > with 4 knobs and horizontal wooden speaker grill. > The volume control does not work, it is low all the time. When > adjusted from about 3/4 to full what sound i have is reduced in half. > Tonight I found 5 tubes testing weak or shorted. I had 3 in a box which > tested well and replaced them. The tubes i could not replace were a 6K6 > that was missing the normal shorts on setup D & K on my Mighty Mite III > tester, the other tube 6SQ7 which i think is the audio amplifier tests > good on leakage, and shorts fail setup D&E emission setup, and passes > setup B. If anyone knows anything about the Sencore TC130 Mighty Mite > III tube setup and has an idea if i am on the right track thinking this > tube will cause the volume to be inop please email me, it will be > greatly appreciated. > Thanks, > Dan Russell If it's not a tube, you have a bad capacitor or a dirty/bad switch. If it's a tube I think you have mentioned the ones you haven't replaced, I would check the sockets and the 5Y3 one more time just from hearing about them so much (and that was for the cat what says I donno s*** about stuff but I read and listen--Cheez). Article: 340694 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1156635221.372177.5470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156642859.524760.304310@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 5500 Radio Items on ebay - not mine Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 00:36:20 -0700 Message-ID: > lighten up Or give up. Apparently nobody in this NG is interested in anything but eBay chatter. Or can recognize anything resembling irony or humor. Never mind. I'll just crawl back to my workbench. If eBay ads entertain you, there are shills who can keep you occupied indefinitely. Phil "not mine!" Nelson Article: 340695 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 04:31:37 -0400 From: Scott Irvine Subject: Did Jensen make speakers then? Message-ID: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200021382637&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1 Article: 340696 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Tom Biasi" References: Subject: Re: Did Jensen make speakers then? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 05:55:34 -0400 "Scott Irvine" wrote in message news:cNOdnVmD59n3xWzZnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@insightbb.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200021382637&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1 Jensen left the Magnavox company in 1925 and founded the Jensen Radio Manufacturing Company in 1927. He made loudspeakers with Hugh Knowles until 1943 and shortly after started Jensen Industries. I don't know when the first loudspeaker would bear his name. Tom Article: 340697 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <44F0DF51.61DA511D@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Tape motor Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:22:57 GMT That's why I'm asking. I know what you mean with the casettes; this might be a faster motion thing, but it might explain that 640uf electrolytic in there. Makes me want to drag out the scope and take a look -- but I'm in one of those dilemmas where I could do this if the bench was any cleaner, but I don't have time to clean the bench because I'm stuck on monsters like this one. It's possible the original service manual has a circuit description, but I don't have it -- most of my original manuals are for Motorola and Bendix of the 50's, and Delcos of the early 50's and early 70's. This would be a Motorola from 1968. At some point I'm going to post a "wish list" of service literature I don't have. I've got a pretty good library as it is now, but there are holes in it. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Gordon Richmond" wrote in message news:pg02f2ha34u11l1ilsjchjdsi9ar86gvah@4ax.com... > >Gee, I might be in luck. My ECG book sez a 185 will replace a P1V. > >However >>it is silicon, and is a T-128 case. Looks maybe correct, depending on >>size -- this one's small. However I thought it was germanium, as the >>voltages in Sams show a 0.2v drop emitter to base. I'll have to check >>with >>my local parts store -- if it's there and cheap, (not $30 like most >>germanium powers) I'll put in a new one. > > > Gary, > > I recall working on an old cassette player which used a cam-operated > switch to control the > auto-eject. As long as the takeup spool was turning, the switch would > cycle and repeatedly > discharge a small electrolytic cap that was part of a time-base circuit. > If the takeup > spool stopped turning, the cap would reach a high enough voltage to switch > on a transistor > that in turn powered the eject solenoid. > > I describe that because I'm wondering if maybe the yellow wire in that > motor is a switched > contact that is used to create pulses for speed reference? > > Gordon Richmond Article: 340698 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1156648732.898648.313670@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Emerson Radio Volume Problem Message-ID: <2ufIg.1800$XD1.331@trnddc01> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:37:34 GMT I don't know what your Emerson looks like inside, but I have run into some car radios of the 1930's and even 40's, that have a strange volume condition -- if you disconnect the volume control entirely, you'll still hear the radio! I guess it's something about capacitance from the IF area to the first audio, seems to pick up the sound by osmosis. That's probably an explanation as to why you see such shielding of the wires to and from the volume control in some of these sets. Just be advised, don't tear your hair out because you don't understand why sound is getting past a pot turned all the way to ground -- it can happen in some sets. You might want to look for an open capacitor or resistor in the detector/first audio circuit. You might want to simply "test" the volume control and audio by injecting a signal at the high side, and maybe pulling one of the IF tubes to prevent radio signal, and see if the volume is normal and the sound is clear for your injected signal. This may give you a clue as to whether the problem is before or after the control. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Daniel Russell" wrote in message news:1156648732.898648.313670@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Hi group, > I am still here trying to work out this volume bug on my Emerson 6 tube > radio that i still can not identify. The tubes are 6SQ7, 6SA7, 6SG7, > 6K6, 5Y3, 6SK7, and a 6U5 Tuning eye. It have 2 SW bands and a BC band. > The cabinet is a table top model with a top mount slanted slide rule, > with 4 knobs and horizontal wooden speaker grill. > The volume control does not work, it is low all the time. When > adjusted from about 3/4 to full what sound i have is reduced in half. > Tonight I found 5 tubes testing weak or shorted. I had 3 in a box which > tested well and replaced them. The tubes i could not replace were a 6K6 > that was missing the normal shorts on setup D & K on my Mighty Mite III > tester, the other tube 6SQ7 which i think is the audio amplifier tests > good on leakage, and shorts fail setup D&E emission setup, and passes > setup B. If anyone knows anything about the Sencore TC130 Mighty Mite > III tube setup and has an idea if i am on the right track thinking this > tube will cause the volume to be inop please email me, it will be > greatly appreciated. > Thanks, > Dan Russell > Article: 340699 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Lyndell Scott" References: Subject: Re: 1938 Silvertone... somebody needs to make this bezel! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:56:01 GMT I made one out of hard maple once. Fabricated it in different sections then glued the pieces together. The bezel was completely missing from it, so had to use photos as a guide. Sounds like a project for Larry Bordanaro. -- Lyndell Scott Audio Antiques http://geocities.com/lfscott@flash.net Article: 340700 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "DumpsterDiver" Subject: A Serious Coil Winder Date: 27 Aug 2006 04:57:30 -0700 Message-ID: <1156679849.955207.158530@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Not the familiar Morris Coil Winder, but still pretty nice, no? Looks like you could probably use this gizmo to make windings for those 1920's audio transformers that are most always DOA when you pay way too much for those old Grebe, Paragon, etc. items. Not to mention those impossible-to-find RF and IF coils for vintage tube gear. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170023245761 I'm posting this in the hope that somebody will bid it up out of my temptation zone so I don't bid on it and end up getting kicked out by The Wife for bringing home "another monstrosity". DD Article: 340701 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Emerson Radio Volume Problem References: <1156648732.898648.313670@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 08:03:46 -0400 The 6SQ7 could be the culprit. I've seen a dual diode/triode pass the signal from the diodes to the triode, leaving the vol control completely inoperative. Truth is stranger than fiction. Ken Daniel Russell wrote: > Hi group, > I am still here trying to work out this volume bug on my Emerson 6 tube > radio that i still can not identify. The tubes are 6SQ7, 6SA7, 6SG7, > 6K6, 5Y3, 6SK7, and a 6U5 Tuning eye. It have 2 SW bands and a BC band. > The cabinet is a table top model with a top mount slanted slide rule, > with 4 knobs and horizontal wooden speaker grill. > The volume control does not work, it is low all the time. When > adjusted from about 3/4 to full what sound i have is reduced in half. > Tonight I found 5 tubes testing weak or shorted. I had 3 in a box which > tested well and replaced them. The tubes i could not replace were a 6K6 > that was missing the normal shorts on setup D & K on my Mighty Mite III > tester, the other tube 6SQ7 which i think is the audio amplifier tests > good on leakage, and shorts fail setup D&E emission setup, and passes > setup B. If anyone knows anything about the Sencore TC130 Mighty Mite > III tube setup and has an idea if i am on the right track thinking this > tube will cause the volume to be inop please email me, it will be > greatly appreciated. > Thanks, > Dan Russell > Article: 340702 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lee Subject: Re: Did Jensen make speakers then? Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 08:05:00 -0400 Message-ID: References: Tom Biasi wrote: > > "Scott Irvine" wrote in message > news:cNOdnVmD59n3xWzZnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@insightbb.com... >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200021382637&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1 >> > > Jensen left the Magnavox company in 1925 and founded the Jensen Radio > Manufacturing Company in 1927. > > He made loudspeakers with Hugh Knowles until 1943 and shortly after > started Jensen Industries. > > I don't know when the first loudspeaker would bear his name. > > Tom > I had a quick poke around the net and found this very interesting page: > http://history.acusd.edu/gen/recording/loudspeaker.html Regards Lee Article: 340703 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" References: Subject: Re: 13 tube W/G made Airline console (not mine) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 12:48:57 GMT Mark, It looks like Ken Nevins (long time MARC member) is going for it. I wonder if he knows who the seller is. "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:soadnd2PDIuwr2zZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com... > my buddy Dan is moving out a few nice higher end consoles, this is one. > I > have the 6F 16 tube version, have yet to restore it. But this one is darn > close, and better than my 6F: It has original finish. > http://cgi.ebay.com/1936-13-tube-Truetone-Wells-Gardner-console-radio_W0QQitemZ230022260592QQihZ013QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 340704 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: Subject: Re: 1938 Silvertone... somebody needs to make this bezel! Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 09:32:42 -0400 "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:nJednRTkDf39rmzZnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com... > Anyone who made this bezel could *probably* sell 50 of them in 2 years for > $30 each. That's because no one is interested in working for free... Syl Article: 340705 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ken scharf Subject: Re: Did Jensen make speakers then? References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 09:40:25 -0400 Scott Irvine wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200021382637&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1 > I tried to look up Meter in the Beitmans. No manufacturer by that name is listed. Article: 340706 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DeserTBoB Subject: Re: alignment tapes-drive motors-replacement pads- 8track cartridge format Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 06:23:55 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1156426625.977398.140890@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On Sun, 27 Aug 2006 06:50:31 GMT, "Weldon Nudlpudl" wrote: >On Thu, 24 Aug 2006 13:37:06 GMT, 455 Pontiac on premium Sunoco-chariot of the gods wrote: > >> and proves that after you got several warnings, you hid your spare ISP >> username for a while- > >How foolish you are! I sent essentially just that message on 9 August! What happened was that my ISP choked twice on that day (before the third, sucessful try) as I was sending it, but my client held onto the earlier attempts and tried again, days later (successfully). > >Meanwhile, as recently as 13 August, well after those empty warnings, I posted to this group. > > > >> how did that taste, little cowering girly ?? > >What sort of demented power fantasy is this? It doesn't even rise to the quality of a "power fantasy." Our resident paranoid delusional here, Charlie Nudo of Drums, PA, is most likely psychotic, and thus "reality" is a little different for him than for normal people. "He thinks, therefore it is," would be a good way to describe this idiot's modus operandi. The reality, however, is that he's a petty thief/con artist operating on eBay as 66fourdoor and an untreated mental case. Do not take anything he posts very seriously. He's SUCH an idiot, as I'm sure you've gathered by now, that he has to resort to sites like flayme.com to learn how to be a troll! One good thing comes out of this of late, though. The utter disgrace of being outed as a moron who needs "Usenet Trolling for Dummies," and getting caught red handed at using same, has chased him back into his troll hole, at least for awhile. Article: 340707 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Steve J Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 09:54:54 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Seller contacted me through my web site to let me know he was posting a couple of radio items and did not know what they were. Nice house sale attic find. He is surprised. I'm sure he's very, very surprised. I imagine he's extremely happy about the DeForest price. Over $6,000 now and still in it's first day. Bet he paid under $40 for it. Here's the link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140023097756 On 26 Aug 2006 19:44:25 -0700, "DumpsterDiver" wrote: >Everybody's seen those "last minute shoot-outs" on Ebay, but I can't >remember ever seeing first hour action like this one .... $2800+ >within one hour of listing! > >And the pictures are TERRIBLE! If you download em and futz & fiddle >with the brightness and contrast, you can sorta make out what this item >is, but it's a real struggle. > >The seller started it at $4.99 ... and I figured I might cop it for $20 >or so if I waited till the last minute. Oh well ... > >Betcha the seller's a little surprised too! > >Ebay Item # 140023097756 (sorry, couldn't get the link to paste >correctly, but this one's worth the extra effort to search it up). > > >DD Article: 340708 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: feldtm@msn.com Subject: Re: FA: 13 tube W/G made Airline console (not mine) Date: 27 Aug 2006 07:07:43 -0700 Message-ID: <1156687663.545247.210650@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: That tuning eye is not factory original, it was added on later, thus permanently altering that way that radio looks versus the way the manufacturer meant for that radio to look. Michael Feldt Mark Oppat wrote: > my buddy Dan is moving out a few nice higher end consoles, this is one. I > have the 6F 16 tube version, have yet to restore it. But this one is darn > close, and better than my 6F: It has original finish. > http://cgi.ebay.com/1936-13-tube-Truetone-Wells-Gardner-console-radio_W0QQitemZ230022260592QQihZ013QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Mark Oppat Article: 340709 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <1156627579.679610.230350@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: clean grunow on ebay Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 10:21:49 -0400 Message-ID: You know what they say Mark, great minds think alike ... LOL. On a serious note it is a hell of a radio. "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:RtOdnaqLEOGep2zZnZ2dnUVZ_q2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > Hilarious. I didnt see this post but posted the link too... and, same > comment! Just happened onto the same eBay listing tonight. > > Mark Oppat > > > > "Larry Fowkes" wrote in message > news:MfSdndwL7bStVG3ZnZ2dnUVZ_tidnZ2d@comcast.com... >> I have one of those I purchased from Mark Oppat a couple years ago. Very >> good set with p/p 45 outputs. Built like the proverbial brick sh!t house, >> weighs a bloody ton. >> >> Larry Fowkes >> >> >> "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message >> news:1156627579.679610.230350@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> > of course not mine. super clean! little on the high side, but really >> > nice, >> > >> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/1934-Grunow-All-Wave-Superheterodyne-Console-Radio_W0QQitemZ170022978074QQihZ007QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >> > >> >> >> > > > Article: 340710 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: Speaker reconing -- try again Date: 27 Aug 2006 07:47:14 -0700 Message-ID: <1156690034.342432.219630@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Mark Oppat wrote: > Next, dont trust speakers to any reconer who is not in our antique radio > field. 80% of reconers are doing musical instrument speakers only. > > Mark Oppat. > I got burned several years ago by a speaker repair shop in Denver. I brought in a late 1920's Magnavox 8" stand-alone electrodynamic speaker- one of those with the ac power plug and wafer rectifier. It needed the leather edge and part of the cone repaired. The shop removed the cone and attempted to fabricate a new one from parts. They gave up and left me with an usable mess. Article: 340711 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Syl" References: <1156588916.366541.322560@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Fabricating a stylus replacement Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:07:21 -0400 wrote in message news:1156588916.366541.322560@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Syl wrote: >> Actually, I make my own stylii for my phonos. > > How do you go about that? I would like to make a couple for modern > magnetic cartridges. I hate the thought of spending $25 and up to buy > one when I've got lots of stylii for ceramic cartridges laying around > unused. I do recall one site where a guy simply snipped the shaft off > of one flip-over needle and super-glued it right to the shaft of the > magnetic needle. Even right over the existing diamond! Another > somehow managed to remove the 3 mil sapphire from one and install it in > place of the stereo diamond of the magnetic needle. Not sure I could > manage that... Too tiny! Tips? Tricks? > > Also, is there a cheap source or way to make custom stylii? I would > like to have one to play Blue Amberol 4 minute cylinders. I know you > can make glass ball tips for the two-minute cylinders, but most of mine > are the Blue Amberols. The tips are sort of round, kind of a doorknob > shape. I think the size is about 3.5 to 3.7 mil. Can't afford to buy > them at around $140. Regular needles work okay, but tons of excess > noise... > > Gerry These need specialized equipment and material. The reason retipping a stylus will usually cost more than 100$... Syl Article: 340712 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith R. Erickson" References: <1156679849.955207.158530@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A Serious Coil Winder Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 15:16:38 GMT Did you note S/H at $120? kognw "DumpsterDiver" wrote in message news:1156679849.955207.158530@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... > Not the familiar Morris Coil Winder, but still pretty nice, no? > > Looks like you could probably use this gizmo to make windings for those > 1920's audio transformers that are most always DOA when you pay way too > much for those old Grebe, Paragon, etc. items. Not to mention those > impossible-to-find RF and IF coils for vintage tube gear. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170023245761 > > I'm posting this in the hope that somebody will bid it up out of my > temptation zone so I don't bid on it and end up getting kicked out by > The Wife for bringing home "another monstrosity". > > > DD > Article: 340713 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: A Serious Coil Winder Date: 27 Aug 2006 08:26:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1156692404.148533.136450@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1156679849.955207.158530@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Keith R. Erickson wrote: > Did you note S/H at $120? > > kognw That's gotta hurt. > "DumpsterDiver" wrote in message > news:1156679849.955207.158530@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... > > Not the familiar Morris Coil Winder, but still pretty nice, no? > > > > Looks like you could probably use this gizmo to make windings for those > > 1920's audio transformers that are most always DOA when you pay way too > > much for those old Grebe, Paragon, etc. items. Not to mention those > > impossible-to-find RF and IF coils for vintage tube gear. > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170023245761 > > > > I'm posting this in the hope that somebody will bid it up out of my > > temptation zone so I don't bid on it and end up getting kicked out by > > The Wife for bringing home "another monstrosity". > > > > > > DD > > Article: 340714 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 5500 Radio Items on ebay - not mine Date: 27 Aug 2006 08:30:31 -0700 Message-ID: <1156692631.657321.123660@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156635221.372177.5470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Phil Nelson wrote: > > lighten up > > Or give up. Apparently nobody in this NG is interested in anything but eBay > chatter. Or can recognize anything resembling irony or humor. > > Never mind. I'll just crawl back to my workbench. > > If eBay ads entertain you, there are shills who can keep you occupied > indefinitely. > > Phil "not mine!" Nelson School is running again, and the squirrels are gathering "projects" to get them through winter. Article: 340715 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Did Jensen make speakers then? Date: 27 Aug 2006 08:32:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1156692733.621315.59810@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: ken scharf wrote: > Scott Irvine wrote: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200021382637&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1 > > > I tried to look up Meter in the Beitmans. No manufacturer by that name > is listed. It's METEOR. Try Stein. Article: 340716 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: 5500 Radio Items on ebay - not mine Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:41:56 -0400 Message-ID: <12f3fa9ng4akrcf@news.supernews.com> References: <1156635221.372177.5470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> wrote in message news:1156635221.372177.5470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > There are 5599 antique radio items currently on ebay. None of them are > mine. Some I like. Some I don't. I haven't bid yet. Just thought > I'd let you know. :') > Dave Hey! You should have put FA: at the beginning of that message's subject! Heeheehee! Article: 340717 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mr. Steven" Subject: Re: 5500 Radio Items on ebay - not mine Date: 27 Aug 2006 08:54:14 -0700 Message-ID: <1156694054.169074.104710@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1156635221.372177.5470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Buck Frobisher wrote: > wrote in message > news:1156635221.372177.5470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > There are 5599 antique radio items currently on ebay. None of them are > > mine. Some I like. Some I don't. I haven't bid yet. Just thought > > I'd let you know. :') > > Dave > > > Hey! You should have put FA: at the beginning of that message's subject! > Heeheehee! I PITY the fool that don't put FA in the subject! I pity the fool! Article: 340718 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Surgeon General" Subject: Re: 1938 Silvertone... somebody needs to make this bezel! Date: 27 Aug 2006 08:56:50 -0700 Message-ID: <1156694210.468216.304570@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Syl wrote: > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:nJednRTkDf39rmzZnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com... > > > Anyone who made this bezel could *probably* sell 50 of them in 2 years for > > $30 each. > > That's because no one is interested in working for free... > > Syl Of course if you DIE the whole point's moot. Article: 340719 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:56:58 -0400 Message-ID: <12f3g6dl76npdc8@news.supernews.com> References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> "Shawn K" wrote in message news:ju9Ig.469427$Mn5.152694@pd7tw3no... > I've been watching this one for a few hours, found it when it was just put > up for auction. There is one guy in particular bidding on it, bigalarsen, > been watching the stuff he has been winning (been outbid by him several > times). He must have an incredible collection by now. Yeah, I often wonder if this type of item will keep its value in another 20 years when a lot less of us baby-boomers are around. After all, it's not like a Zenith Strat, that has obvious beauty and therefore is desirable without knowing any more about. This thing looks like it was made with plumbing parts. Article: 340720 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: 27 Aug 2006 09:06:39 -0700 Message-ID: <1156694799.054054.173770@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Buck Frobisher wrote: > "Shawn K" wrote in message > news:ju9Ig.469427$Mn5.152694@pd7tw3no... > > I've been watching this one for a few hours, found it when it was just put > > up for auction. There is one guy in particular bidding on it, bigalarsen, > > been watching the stuff he has been winning (been outbid by him several > > times). He must have an incredible collection by now. > > Yeah, I often wonder if this type of item will keep its value in another 20 > years when a lot less of us baby-boomers are around. After all, it's not > like a Zenith Strat, that has obvious beauty and therefore is desirable > without knowing any more about. > > This thing looks like it was made with plumbing parts. He or she is either rich or a broker and he's bought dozens of pieces for thousands of dollars. Here is one of at least two DeForest items, I noted he loves Grebes too... 2,280 food stamps: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=38033&item=6636388619 Article: 340721 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1156687663.545247.210650@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FA: 13 tube W/G made Airline console (not mine) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:06:42 -0400 Message-ID: Mike, I believe the eye was a dealer or factory option, like my 1968A Silvertone. The brochure for my set calls it out, I think if you found a Wards catalog for 1936 you would see that too. Seems the catalog retailers offered it as an option. Mark Oppat wrote in message news:1156687663.545247.210650@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > That tuning eye is not factory original, it was added on later, thus > permanently altering that way that radio looks versus the way the > manufacturer meant for that radio to look. > > Michael Feldt > > > Mark Oppat wrote: > > my buddy Dan is moving out a few nice higher end consoles, this is one. I > > have the 6F 16 tube version, have yet to restore it. But this one is darn > > close, and better than my 6F: It has original finish. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/1936-13-tube-Truetone-Wells-Gardner-console-radio_W0QQitemZ230022260592QQihZ013QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > Mark Oppat > > Article: 340722 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1156648732.898648.313670@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Emerson Radio Volume Problem Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:12:00 -0400 Message-ID: Easiest test in the world is to trace thru with a Signal Tracer. Go from the IF tube plate (with the detector diode in the probe switched in) to the high side of the vol control (with the diode switched out). Make sure you have signal in both places, roughly the same level. Signal tracer should be your next tool after a good analog VOM or VTVM and tube tester. Mark Oppat "Daniel Russell" wrote in message news:1156648732.898648.313670@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Hi group, > I am still here trying to work out this volume bug on my Emerson 6 tube > radio that i still can not identify. The tubes are 6SQ7, 6SA7, 6SG7, > 6K6, 5Y3, 6SK7, and a 6U5 Tuning eye. It have 2 SW bands and a BC band. > The cabinet is a table top model with a top mount slanted slide rule, > with 4 knobs and horizontal wooden speaker grill. > The volume control does not work, it is low all the time. When > adjusted from about 3/4 to full what sound i have is reduced in half. > Tonight I found 5 tubes testing weak or shorted. I had 3 in a box which > tested well and replaced them. The tubes i could not replace were a 6K6 > that was missing the normal shorts on setup D & K on my Mighty Mite III > tester, the other tube 6SQ7 which i think is the audio amplifier tests > good on leakage, and shorts fail setup D&E emission setup, and passes > setup B. If anyone knows anything about the Sencore TC130 Mighty Mite > III tube setup and has an idea if i am on the right track thinking this > tube will cause the volume to be inop please email me, it will be > greatly appreciated. > Thanks, > Dan Russell > > Article: 340723 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1156610929.182446.177340@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Filament Polarity for Antique Triodes? Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:22:28 -0400 Message-ID: <16adnZ_ippZ3TmzZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com> Later tube manuals dont call any polarity on the tubes like 01A. I wonder if it was more to keep biasing straight in the circuit, not the tube per se. Like the grids would all want to return to the same side of the filiment for instance. Mark Oppat "DumpsterDiver" wrote in message news:1156610929.182446.177340@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > In the process of fixing an old (ca 1923, I think) homebrew > regenerative set, I need to replace and rewire the three tube sockets. > After locating the necessary sockets, I noticed that they all have > terminals labelled F+, F-, G and P (in clockwise order, looking down at > the top of the socket). A couple of other sockets from the "junque box" > have the same markings. > > I never really noticed this F+ and F- labelling before. Does it really > matter for those old filament-type triode tubes (01-A, 00-A, 112-A, > etc.? Apparently, some folks thought it did way back when, but WHY??? > > Thanks, > > DD > > Article: 340724 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ken scharf Subject: Re: Did Jensen make speakers then? References: <1156692733.621315.59810@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:39:55 -0400 Steven wrote: > ken scharf wrote: >> Scott Irvine wrote: >>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200021382637&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1 >>> >> I tried to look up Meter in the Beitmans. No manufacturer by that name >> is listed. > > It's METEOR. Try Stein. > Ya, just a typo. Sorry. So Stein made meteor radios? I'll try that. Article: 340725 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Filament Polarity for Antique Triodes? Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 10:56:28 -0700 Message-ID: <7511-44F1DCCC-301@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> References: <16adnZ_ippZ3TmzZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@comcast.com> >From Mark O.: >I wonder if it was more to keep biasing >straight in the circuit, not the tube per se. >Like the grids would all want to return to >the same side of the filiment for >instance. Exactly. Seems like it was pure convention of the day, sorta analogous to the 'outside foil' convention of later decades regarding capacitors. oc Article: 340726 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:21:44 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Steve J wrote: > Seller contacted me through my web site to let me know he was posting > a couple of radio items and did not know what they were. Nice house > sale attic find. > He is surprised. I'm sure he's very, very surprised. I imagine he's > extremely happy about the DeForest price. Over $6,000 now and still in > it's first day. Bet he paid under $40 for it. > This is an excellent example of the impact of ebay on pricing in our hobby. 23 years ago, a fellow collector of mine found one of these sitting on a table at a flea market for $20.00. He is not an early-riser, so most surely lots of eyes saw it before he did. He bought it, more out of curiosity than anything else. He cleaned it up and kept in on a shelf with some other early radio stuff he had in his collection. He kept it there for maybe a year and then decided to remove it to make room for something else because it wasn't complete (like the eBay one, his also had no tube). Rather than sell it outright, he donated it to a museum devoted to early Silicon Valley history (which was apropo, since DeForest was a Stanford fellow for a time). That wasn't a hard decision for him to make because at that time the unit may have been worth a couple of hundred dollars, tops. How times have changed. Now, you've got people practically pounding each other into the pavement for the privilege of getting one in worse shape for "only" $7000.00. The whole thing seems rather absurd to me. Waltons have had similar ridiculous price appreciation in the post-eBay era, but at least you can actually LISTEN to them! -Scott Article: 340727 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "g. beat" <@> References: Subject: Re: Weller documentation Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:38:30 -0500 Message-ID: "g. beat >" <@ wrote in message news:yd2dnY-Zm81U6m3ZnZ2dnUVZ_vCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > After collecting Weller documentation (and notes) for the past 30 years, > I have scanned (Adobe Acrobat) these Weller Tech Sheets, documents and > notes -- > some which not currently available from Weller's web site. > > Ken Grimm, K4XL will be posting these in the coming weeks on the at BAMA > (BoatAnchor Manual Archive) web site. > http://bama.sbc.edu/ > I would suggest accessing the BAMA Mirror site -- which permits a larger number of "user" sessions/connections. http://bama.edebris.com/manuals/ Article: 340728 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Noble" Subject: fa: HP 400H tube type AC RMS voltmeter - great for your test bench Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 11:49:07 -0700 Message-ID: <44f1dc02$0$8936$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> This unit appears to be all there and working, just needs to be calibrated and adjusted - these are a great meter, I just don't have the space or need for it right now. here's the link http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300021921881 -- bill to email me, to to my web page, www.wbnoble.com and find my email -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 340729 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: feldtm@msn.com Subject: Re: FA: 13 tube W/G made Airline console (not mine) Date: 27 Aug 2006 12:00:58 -0700 Message-ID: <1156705258.158637.212840@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: Mark Well I just so happen to have the original 1936 Airline radio catalog that you mention and, nope, no such option offered that I can find. Now the radio in question is a Trutone and maybe Western Auto Supply or the sales person did offer such an upgrade, I don't know, anything's possible. I guess I'm just a stickler for factory originality. Michael Feldt www.indianaradios.com Mark Oppat wrote: > Mike, > I believe the eye was a dealer or factory option, like my 1968A Silvertone. > The brochure for my set calls it out, I think if you found a Wards catalog > for 1936 you would see that too. Seems the catalog retailers offered it as > an option. > > Mark Oppat > > > wrote in message > news:1156687663.545247.210650@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > That tuning eye is not factory original, it was added on later, thus > > permanently altering that way that radio looks versus the way the > > manufacturer meant for that radio to look. > > > > Michael Feldt > > > > > > Mark Oppat wrote: > > > my buddy Dan is moving out a few nice higher end consoles, this is one. > I > > > have the 6F 16 tube version, have yet to restore it. But this one is > darn > > > close, and better than my 6F: It has original finish. > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/1936-13-tube-Truetone-Wells-Gardner-console-radio_W0QQitemZ230022260592QQihZ013QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > > Mark Oppat > > > > Article: 340730 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Do you think this Zenith is worth that much? Date: 27 Aug 2006 12:22:55 -0700 Message-ID: <1156706575.277698.161730@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> My choice, I can no longer deal with the spam generated by Ebay, the radios I've ordered all poorly packaged and damaged on delivery, greed, and insanity. I'll stick with the radio flea markets from this moment on Mr. Menning. At least you know who you're dealing with in person. Thanks for your input. jim menning wrote: > "RadioGary" wrote in message > news:1156616836.476140.105500@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > > Sorry CL Antiques, you are the weakest link. > > > > > > At least they aren't NARU right now. > > jim menning Article: 340731 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "R" Subject: FS:Heathkit tube tester #TT-1 and about 1500 radio tubes. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:26:12 GMT Good day,I have for sale a heathkit tube tester model TT-1 and 2 full caddy of about 500 tubes each,plus another 500 tubes,75% of them are NOS,the tester is in a great condition and is in a perfect working condition,only the outside case need a little tlc(paint off two corners)all the tubes are radio tubes,will try to answer your questions but my knowledge is pretty limited as I am selling these items for a radio shop owner who passed away....asking price is $500 for all plus shipping...thanks... Article: 340732 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Noble" Subject: I'm going to throw this Cassette player away unless someone wants it for parts Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 13:30:02 -0700 Message-ID: <44f1f3a9$0$8955$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> radio shack SCT1000 high speed dubbing dual deck - probably works, it has a ribbon cable that connects it to a main amplifier - I got the tuner (separate) working by applying 12VDC to it - I don't need a cassette player so I'm not going to spend any time messing with this. If you want it, pay postage - if you want some parts, I'll pull the boards and stuff and drop them in a flat rate box, I don't think the whole unit will fit in one - it's 16X5X9 inches. -- bill to email me, to to my web page, www.wbnoble.com and find my email or unscramble the following by removing spaces and correcting the obvious spelling errors wil lia m_b_n obl e at msn daught com -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 340733 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Is it a coincidence that Sparton and Zenith cabinets look alike? Date: 27 Aug 2006 13:50:39 -0700 Message-ID: <1156711839.823404.83430@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I'm talking about mid 1930's models. The 1938 Sparton 1068 I have looks like it could have been made in the same factory as Zeniths from the same year. The woods, toner, construction, and blue interior all look like the Zeniths I have. Is there any documentation about the furniture factories these companies used for cabinets? On a side note, Zenith advertising brags about being a year ahead but the Sparton consoles have station presets a year before Zeniths. Article: 340734 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" Subject: Oscillator and cathode current Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:34:42 GMT The trouble i was having with the cap in the oscillator (originally a 4uF) has been solved with a 4.7 electrol. and a 0.25 as adviced by John Goller (thanks John and thanks all for clarify what needed). The radio started playing, LW and BC running fine, SW was showing something like all the (poor) reception was concentrated in the middle of the dial. It clearly appeared a trouble in the antenna coil or in the oscillator. After some try i was able to open that sort of tuning box and look into. Before controlling continuity in coils i wanted to check the cathode courrent of the 6A8; I must say that i like to use the Supreme Diagnometer since this makes available this kind of test without unsoldering wires or other parts. Well.. This is what i've noticed: - LW and BC: meter moves according to the tuning, it increases from low to high moving the dial pointer from left to right (readings= from 90 to 130uA); - SW: appeared to be locked at the near high (fixed 120uA), does not move at all everywhere the pointer is on the dial scale.. even in presence of a (poor) reception; This was suggesting me a trouble in the oscillator and not in the antenna coil. Actually the oscillator coil was open and i had to rewind it, also, a shorted hidden cap has been substituted. Now the radio run really fine also in SW. It needs to be realigned. Again i wanted to re-check the cathode courrent. This time the meter moves, but, only a bit, while the radio works really fine, great performances in reception and audio output too (readings= 110uA to 120uA). Now i have a couple of questions: - is it normal that SW move the meter 'just a bit' while LW and BC give longer dial readings? - would be meter readings a way to tune the oscillator (lowest reading for starting dial point and highest value for ending dial point)? -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 340735 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Your Uncle Kenny from Jersey City" References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 17:47:19 -0400 Message-ID: <816a9$44f212be$d1cc4508$15729@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> A perfect example of: 1) typical rampant un-controlled e-screw shill bidding 2) two or more clowns with MUCH more money & too much free time on their hands 3) ...a radio that many on RAR+P *wished* that THEY were selling on e-screw right now!!! : ) Article: 340736 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156616836.476140.105500@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156706575.277698.161730@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Do you think this Zenith is worth that much? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:51:54 GMT "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1156706575.277698.161730@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > jim menning wrote: >> "RadioGary" wrote in message >> news:1156616836.476140.105500@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> > >> > Sorry CL Antiques, you are the weakest link. >> > >> > >> >> At least they aren't NARU right now. >> > My choice, I can no longer deal with the spam generated by Ebay, the > radios I've ordered all poorly packaged and damaged on delivery, greed, > and insanity. You know no one believes that. You can't make yourself NARU by choice, only eBay can designate you NARU. Even to close an eBay account is a 6-month procedure, in order to give all possible current and future conflicts time to be resolved. Your account was suspended by eBay for your rule violations, you didn't voluntarily shut it down. > > I'll stick with the radio flea markets from this moment on Mr. Menning. > At least you know who you're dealing with in person. I wouldn't bet on that. What's really funny is that we spoke together at the Carol Stream meet for over 20 minutes several months ago, and you didn't even know it was me you were talking to. ;o) jim menning Article: 340737 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:56:21 GMT "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:ecsnn9029vh@news4.newsguy.com... > Steve J wrote: >> >> He is surprised. I'm sure he's very, very surprised. I imagine he's >> extremely happy about the DeForest price. Over $6,000 now and still in >> it's first day. Bet he paid under $40 for it. >> > > This is an excellent example of the impact of ebay on pricing in our hobby. It's a perfect example of how eBay saved this item, that otherwise could likely have been assumed to be worthless and thrown away. EBay gave the seller an opportunity to get this to an owner who will appreciate it, and get paid a good value for it rather than a mere pittance from some greedy collector, dealer, or profiteer. jim menning Article: 340738 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Oscillator and cathode current References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:28:21 -0400 I have never looked at a 6A8 cathode current, but if you are inserting a meter in the cathode circuit, you're probably upsetting the circuit to the point your readings are undependable. You really need a freq meter to check the lo, current readings won't tell you anything. Ken Daniele wrote: > The trouble i was having with the cap in the oscillator > (originally a 4uF) has been solved with a 4.7 electrol. > and a 0.25 as adviced by John Goller (thanks John and > thanks all for clarify what needed). > The radio started playing, LW and BC running fine, > SW was showing something like all the (poor) reception > was concentrated in the middle of the dial. > It clearly appeared a trouble in the antenna coil > or in the oscillator. After some try i was able to open > that sort of tuning box and look into. > Before controlling continuity in coils i wanted to > check the cathode courrent of the 6A8; > I must say that i like to use the Supreme Diagnometer > since this makes available this kind of test without unsoldering > wires or other parts. > Well.. This is what i've noticed: > - LW and BC: meter moves according to the tuning, > it increases from low to high moving the dial pointer > from left to right (readings= from 90 to 130uA); > - SW: appeared to be locked at the near high (fixed 120uA), > does not move at all everywhere the pointer is on > the dial scale.. even in presence of a (poor) reception; > This was suggesting me a trouble in the oscillator and not in > the antenna coil. > Actually the oscillator coil was open and i had to rewind it, > also, a shorted hidden cap has been substituted. > Now the radio run really fine also in SW. > It needs to be realigned. > Again i wanted to re-check the cathode courrent. > This time the meter moves, but, only a bit, > while the radio works really fine, great > performances in reception and audio output too > (readings= 110uA to 120uA). > Now i have a couple of questions: > - is it normal that SW move the meter 'just a bit' while > LW and BC give longer dial readings? > - would be meter readings a way to tune the oscillator > (lowest reading for starting dial point and highest value for > ending dial point)? > Article: 340739 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: high Dollar Item Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 19:33:30 -0400 This guy says he doesn't know much about radios, but he sure knows how to set a reserve. Ken http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140023097756 Article: 340740 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: high Dollar Item Message-ID: Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:41:43 GMT "Ken" wrote in message news:eZpIg.7537$Tl4.2994@dukeread06... > This guy says he doesn't know much about radios, but he sure knows how to set a > reserve. Ken > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140023097756 > What reserve? jim menning Article: 340741 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Did Jensen make speakers then? Date: 27 Aug 2006 16:54:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1156722893.534834.317570@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: ken scharf wrote: > Steven wrote: > > ken scharf wrote: > >> Scott Irvine wrote: > >>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=200021382637&ssPageName=ADME:B:SS:US:1 > >>> > >> I tried to look up Meter in the Beitmans. No manufacturer by that name > >> is listed. > > > > It's METEOR. Try Stein. > > > Ya, just a typo. Sorry. > So Stein made meteor radios? I'll try that. There's a book about these lesser known sets. Will somebody come up with the title and writer, as I probably have it wrong? It's come up before. Article: 340742 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: high Dollar Item Date: 27 Aug 2006 16:58:32 -0700 Message-ID: <1156723112.061815.38560@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: This item is one covered in another thread. bigalarsen, wd1112 and a few more are at war over it. Step back and watch. We are not the lucky? bastards at all ;-p Article: 340743 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: high Dollar Item Date: 27 Aug 2006 17:00:36 -0700 Message-ID: <1156723236.126538.17120@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: > This item is one covered in another thread. This one: http://groups.google.com/group/rec.antiques.radio+phono/browse_frm/thread/050e61de606d981f/cfaca0283565b8d6?hl=en#cfaca0283565b8d6 Article: 340744 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 20:07:15 -0400 Message-ID: <12f4ctn4a5vrjb0@corp.supernews.com> References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <12f3g6dl76npdc8@news.supernews.com> "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message news:12f3g6dl76npdc8@news.supernews.com... > > Yeah, I often wonder if this type of item will keep its value in another > 20 years when a lot less of us baby-boomers are around. No, it won't. If it's interesting only to collectors and valuable, dump it within the next decade. John H. Article: 340745 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: clean grunow on ebay Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 20:08:42 -0400 Message-ID: <12f4d0ds7uodj1e@corp.supernews.com> References: <1156627579.679610.230350@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Can't bid on that- half of the final price will go to the ad agency. John H. Article: 340746 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: 13 tube W/G made Airline console (not mine) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 20:12:32 -0400 Message-ID: <12f4d7jpujhf43e@corp.supernews.com> References: "Robert Murrell" wrote in message news:ZwgIg.11296$%j7.11274@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > Mark, > > It looks like Ken Nevins (long time MARC member) is going for it. Has a first bidder ever won an auction? Not that I have seen ever. They don't really want the item generally. John H. Article: 340747 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 13 tube W/G made Airline console (not mine) Date: 27 Aug 2006 17:15:37 -0700 Message-ID: <1156724137.402902.130650@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: Hagstar wrote: > "Robert Murrell" wrote in message > news:ZwgIg.11296$%j7.11274@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > > Mark, > > > > It looks like Ken Nevins (long time MARC member) is going for it. > > Has a first bidder ever won an auction? Not that I have seen ever. They > don't really want the item generally. I DID but don't start a war over it. Article: 340748 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: 5500 Radio Items on ebay - not mine Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 20:17:25 -0400 Message-ID: <12f4dgosih5lmc2@corp.supernews.com> References: <1156635221.372177.5470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Phil, Dave was just giving Mark grief for posting a lot of "not mine FA" and never posting on the Forum under any circumstances. John H. Article: 340749 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: clean grunow on ebay Date: 27 Aug 2006 17:21:34 -0700 Message-ID: <1156724494.596652.86490@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1156627579.679610.230350@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Three thumbs up (Ebert emailed one from his computer while recovering) Article: 340750 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 5500 Radio Items on ebay - not mine Date: 27 Aug 2006 17:24:41 -0700 Message-ID: <1156724681.888835.108570@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156635221.372177.5470@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Hagstar wrote: > Phil, Dave was just giving Mark grief for posting a lot of "not mine FA" > and never posting on the Forum under any circumstances. > > John H.] He knows...there were only two posts yesterday night not involving eBay items. Fall fever, that's what. Article: 340751 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 20:49:47 -0400 Message-ID: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> I want to marry this seller. Look at this STUNNING dreadnaught, just sitting there with a $58- bid and NO RESERVE. I no longer bid on any Reserve auctions, it shows the seller isn't someone I want to support (although I'm grateful for the warning), and the goods are probably questionable too. Sometimes it's AMAZING the asinine Reserves and added handling and or delivery fees people pull from their posteriors. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170023153192 John H. Article: 340752 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: high Dollar Item References: Message-ID: <7grIg.7546$Tl4.440@dukeread06> Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:01:54 -0400 This item had a reserve, I believe it was to end today, but was re-listed. Now, no reserve, guess the reserve was reached??? Ken jim menning wrote: > "Ken" wrote in message news:eZpIg.7537$Tl4.2994@dukeread06... > >>This guy says he doesn't know much about radios, but he sure knows how to set a >>reserve. Ken >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140023097756 >> > > > What reserve? > > jim menning > > Article: 340753 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-k8vt Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:36:09 GMT Hagstar wrote: > I want to marry this seller. Look at this STUNNING dreadnaught, just sitting > there with a $58- bid and NO RESERVE. I no longer bid on any Reserve > auctions, it shows the seller isn't someone I want to support (although I'm > grateful for the warning), and the goods are probably questionable too. > Sometimes it's AMAZING the asinine Reserves and added handling and or > delivery fees people pull from their posteriors. John, Your above post piqued my curiosity! I would like to know what you have against reserve auctions. Maybe I am being naive, but as far as I know, a reserve is just a "safety net" for the seller. To me, it is equivalent to selling something at a ham fest and having a price in the back of your mind that is the very lowest amount you would let somebody dicker you down to. As to the "safety net" aspect, let me offer the following not too unreasonable example: Say you had something you wanted to sell for $100 (the actual minimum price you would let your item go for--but due to the nature of auctions, you might hope to get a bit more), had no reserve and set the opening bid at, say 5 bucks--just to get the bidding juices going (eBay is an -auction- service after all). Furthermore, say you started this auction on September 10, 2001. By that evening, it worked its way all the way up to ten bucks. Then the horror of September 11 came along; people rightfully had other things on their mind than eBay. Basically, you would be -obligated- to sell your $100 item for the ten buck bid. The reserve would have protected you from this or similar situations. In my opinion, there is nothing sinister or underhanded about a "reserve"; again, nothing worse than having an absolute lowest price in the back of your mind when you are doing an "in-person" sale at a swap. My opinion respectfully submitted, Carter K8VT P.S. I absolutely agree with you that the potential eBay buyer better be darned sure of shipping and -especially- "handling" charges. Those CAN cover a multitude of sins, but please don't tar a "reserve" with the same brush. Article: 340754 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Someone in Kentucky...He has split the lot up now/PLEASE NOTE References: <1154602427.506876.102850@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1154638284.566159.11910@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154661884.091321.122590@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154804668.336890.260530@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154827349.198320.44090@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154993429.114318.155650@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155600109.397626.276900@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155603927.281524.94500@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1155646129.530241.222500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7%kEg.3207$zg.1962@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1155694728.312665.228270@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156178144.049651.98370@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156182462.072980.226570@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:42:55 GMT Skippy wrote: > FUCKING GO TO HELL ALREADY. Spoken like the true gentleman he is. Here's a suggestion for you. Go have fun in THESE news groups instead and leave us alone. news:alt.suicide news:alt.suicide.methods Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 340755 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <37mdnce8Tqp3UnLZnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com> Subject: Re: Trans-Portable radio Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:43:20 GMT I find threads like this rather amusing. When I mention a strange type of radio, suddenly everybody chimes in to tell me how common they are, and how most collectors have 8 or 10 of them in their hall closets. Ask a simple question about it however, and nobody has a clue . . . >From the photo in the Sams, it appears the radio itself has it own knobs, but there are also knobs on the "docking station." Two tuners? Two amps? Two power sources? Two antennas? Just what is shared, anyway -- the detector? As I said when I started this thread, there's one on the way. I'll obviously be poking around inside to see what makes it tick -- or more specifically, see why it doesn't tick. As I learn about it I'll share it here. It obviously will be an interesting contraption. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "William R. Walsh" wrote in message news:Qj7Ig.13240$aJ.5872@attbi_s21... > Hi! > >> If you look at the factory photo of the car's dashboard, you'll see a >> conventional tuning knob & dial, with pushbuttons. > > Yes, but...how was the tuning actually *done*? Did they rig up a system to > drive the tuning wheel on the portable part? Or was the portable's built > in > tuner deactivated and replaced by one in the dash unit? > >> A note from a >> Buick owner mentions that the in-dash portion of the radio used an >> additional two transistors. > > I saw that and would guess that these would be for voltage regulation > and/or > audio amplification. > > William > > Article: 340756 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "L." References: Subject: Re: high Dollar Item Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:41:09 -0400 Message-ID: <44f24a6a$0$15482$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "jim menning" wrote in message news:X4qIg.68675$Nt2.16271@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Ken" wrote in message > news:eZpIg.7537$Tl4.2994@dukeread06... >> This guy says he doesn't know much about radios, but he sure knows how to >> set a reserve. Ken >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140023097756 >> > > What reserve? > > jim menning > Ditto - "what reserve"? He said "no reserve". He said he'd let the bidders determine the value. AND boy - they sure are - with 8 days still left as of this posting and up to $8000 already - something like 26 bids -WOW.............. I'm in the wrong business. L. Article: 340757 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: Subject: Re: 1938 Silvertone... somebody needs to make this bezel! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:49:31 GMT Yes, Please.... Pretty Please :-) Keith "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:nJednRTkDf39rmzZnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com... >I have owned and seen so many of this model set with the bezel in poor >shape > or missing. Someone here needs to make a good version of it! I think > take an existing one and cut it in 6 places to expand it out about 3/8" > total across and 1/4" height. The original is Tenite. Crappy stuff. > Anyone who made this bezel could probably sell 50 of them in 2 years for > $30 > each. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Antique-Vintage-Sears-Silvertone-Console-Radio_W0QQitemZ250022639215QQihZ015QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > just my thoughts. > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 340758 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 21:54:11 -0400 Message-ID: <12f4j67i9qmg956@corp.supernews.com> References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> I'm saying it shows simply the seller has very poor judgment and this probably affects every aspect of their lives including their items for sale and treatment thereof. Reserves make for a lower ending price and discourage bidding. They are contrary to everyone's interests especially the seller's. No Reserve, and a one dollar or at least reasonable Starting Price are ancient and time honored eBay principles nearly every really successful seller considers gospel. An honest open Starting Price that is simply the least you'd EVER take for the item, or just yanking the auction of something like Sept. 11th comes along, covers the problems you mention. Reserves are like some sort of tantrum thbing- "It's worth a SECRETprice but I'm not telling! Nah nah na na nah!" John H. Article: 340759 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:56:00 GMT That got my radar to go off! Bid placed, but outbid. Ill keep an eye on it, sure is pretty, Id have to give up my Maj 72 to have a place for it though. I keep thinking "Its too GOOD for me" but at the right price, I can do without having to do the total restoration ;-) Keith "Hagstar" wrote in message news:12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com... >I want to marry this seller. Look at this STUNNING dreadnaught, just >sitting there with a $58- bid and NO RESERVE. I no longer bid on any >Reserve auctions, it shows the seller isn't someone I want to support >(although I'm grateful for the warning), and the goods are probably >questionable too. Sometimes it's AMAZING the asinine Reserves and added >handling and or delivery fees people pull from their posteriors. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170023153192 > > John H. > Article: 340760 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <7grIg.7546$Tl4.440@dukeread06> Subject: Re: high Dollar Item Message-ID: <6nsIg.68684$Nt2.68522@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 02:17:38 GMT "Ken" wrote in message news:7grIg.7546$Tl4.440@dukeread06... > > > jim menning wrote: > >> "Ken" wrote in message news:eZpIg.7537$Tl4.2994@dukeread06... >> >>>This guy says he doesn't know much about radios, but he sure knows how to set a >>>reserve. Ken >>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140023097756 >>> >> >> >> What reserve? > > This item had a reserve, I believe it was to end today, but was re-listed. Now, no > reserve, guess the reserve was reached??? Ken > End today and relisted? I don't think so. This auction is not a relist unless it was from more than a month ago, it appears it is still the original 10-day auction. It started less than two hours prior to being reported here in another thread just yesterday. It doesn't appear anywhere else in the seller's 30-day history. http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&since=30&userid=frankieben159&include=0&rows=200&sort=8&completed=1 The only (all five) revisions made to this auction were all to the description. If there were any changes made to the reserve price or length of auction it would be listed on the revisions page. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemRevisionDetails&item=140023097756 When the auction was mentioned yesterday in another thread, I added it to my watch list at that time and there was no mention of a reserve then either. jim menning Article: 340761 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 02:19:27 GMT Hi! > I would like to know what you have against reserve auctions. (I know the question wasn't directed at me...) > To me, it is equivalent to selling something at a ham fest and > having a price in the back of your mind that is the very lowest > amount you would let somebody dicker you down to. That's the price that should be set at the auction start. When I go to eBay, I really don't want to play "what's the reserve price set at?". I'd understand the concept of having a "lowest price" in the case of something like a hamfest, where there's usually no rule stipulating that you cannot make an offer. eBay has "best offer" functionality, and then you can make the decision. I do not think it is a good idea to start the bidding for less than what you've got in an item. William Article: 340762 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 22:26:31 -0400 Message-ID: <12f4l2qnsicjce8@corp.supernews.com> References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> "Keith Park" wrote in message news:Q2sIg.23917$uH6.20039@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > That got my radar to go off! > Bid placed, but outbid. > > Ill keep an eye on it, sure is pretty, Id have to give up my Maj 72 to > have a place for it though. > I keep thinking "Its too GOOD for me" but at the right price, I can do > without having to do the total restoration Thanks Keith! I already have to detour a bit to Utica on the way to K-town to pick this up- http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220017951747 John H. Article: 340763 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FA: 13 tube W/G made Airline console (not mine) From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1156705258.158637.212840@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 02:28:49 GMT In article <1156705258.158637.212840@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>, feldtm@msn.com says... > > >Mark > >Well I just so happen to have the original 1936 Airline radio catalog >that you mention and, nope, no such option offered that I can find. Now >the radio in question is a Trutone and maybe Western Auto Supply or the >sales person did offer such an upgrade, I don't know, anything's >possible. I guess I'm just a stickler for factory originality. > >Michael Feldt I restored one of these chassis last year... it was from a Lafayette radio... it HAD the 13th tube in it.. I removed it since the chassis was going into a customers trutone and it didn't have the eye ... so looks like some of the companies that purchased the chassis used the eye and some didn't... John k9uwa Article: 340764 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <37mdnce8Tqp3UnLZnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com> Subject: Re: Trans-Portable radio Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 02:40:34 GMT "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:YSrIg.1039$4O4.145@trnddc02... > >I find threads like this rather amusing. When I mention a strange type of radio, >suddenly everybody chimes in to tell me how common they are, and how most collectors >have 8 or 10 of them in their hall closets. Ask a simple question about it however, >and nobody has a clue . . . > > From the photo in the Sams, it appears the radio itself has it own knobs, but there > are also knobs on the "docking station." Two tuners? Two amps? Two power sources? > Two antennas? Just what is shared, anyway -- the detector? > > As I said when I started this thread, there's one on the way. I'll obviously be > poking around inside to see what makes it tick -- or more specifically, see why it > doesn't tick. As I learn about it I'll share it here. It obviously will be an > interesting contraption. > > They are/were pretty common. I sold two already this year. I've sold at least another half dozen over the previous five years. They seem to be very common around farm auctions in the Midwest. But I have never seen the mounting brackets for these with the handheld part. And I have been attending radio meets for a lot of years now, never saw a mounting bracket or dash half there either. That's probably also true for most people here that have or had these radios in the past. Can't blame us for that! ;o) Gary, you mention you have the photo of it from Sam's. Do you have the actual Sam's folder for the docking unit? Doesn't that tell you whether or not there are two tuning systems? What Sam's did you find it in? Or is the Sam's you have of only the portable part? I know I have seen more than one docking station in Sam's for these in the past, both quite different. But I don't have any model numbers handy to locate which folders. From what I thought, one model added a slug tuned push-button tuner to the dash part, but I thought the pushbuttons were the only tuning. That is, I didn't think you could tune the radio to anything other than the presets from the dash unit, and the dial only indicated where the presets stopped. I may be wrong about this, so I'd like to check the Sam's to be sure. jim menning Article: 340765 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <12f4d7jpujhf43e@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: 13 tube W/G made Airline console (not mine) Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:17:30 -0400 Message-ID: <9bSdnQ392bbCwm_ZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com> John, are you nuts? First bidders win very often! Because they sometimes bid what they REALLY are willing to pay, and its higher than any other bidder is willing to pay. I dont buy many radios, but i got a Jewel cabinet I needed today, for $9.95, the opening bid. I've bought several other radios by just bidding my max and let it sit. If I get it, fine. Try it sometime, it really works more often than you might think. Ken Nevins bids first on a LOT of stuff. And, he wins a bunch of them too. I usually wont bid on an item if I know the existing bidders without checking in with them. Just courtesy. Mark Oppat "Hagstar" wrote in message news:12f4d7jpujhf43e@corp.supernews.com... > > "Robert Murrell" wrote in message > news:ZwgIg.11296$%j7.11274@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > > Mark, > > > > It looks like Ken Nevins (long time MARC member) is going for it. > > Has a first bidder ever won an auction? Not that I have seen ever. They > don't really want the item generally. > > John H. > > > Article: 340766 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:23:12 -0400 Message-ID: right. AND, since many antiques dealers keep an eye on stuff like this, it will cause them to bring out more items like it (or, what they think is "just like" it). eBay has saved so many many items, it should get the Presidential Recycling Award , as soon as we get someone intelligent back in office who cares. Mark Oppat "jim menning" wrote in message news:pqpIg.68670$Nt2.17019@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message > news:ecsnn9029vh@news4.newsguy.com... > > Steve J wrote: > >> > >> He is surprised. I'm sure he's very, very surprised. I imagine he's > >> extremely happy about the DeForest price. Over $6,000 now and still in > >> it's first day. Bet he paid under $40 for it. > >> > > > > This is an excellent example of the impact of ebay on pricing in our hobby. > > It's a perfect example of how eBay saved this item, that otherwise could likely have > been assumed to be worthless and thrown away. EBay gave the seller an opportunity to > get this to an owner who will appreciate it, and get paid a good value for it rather > than a mere pittance from some greedy collector, dealer, or profiteer. > > jim menning > > > Article: 340767 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Madness Subject: Re: high Dollar Item References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 04:08:19 GMT One thing I noticed about that is that is says "Audion Tube" in the title, yet I don't see one anywhere in those pictures. Assuming that the right-angle thing on top of the box that looks almost like a gas lamp is the socket for the tube? jim menning wrote: > "Ken" wrote in message news:eZpIg.7537$Tl4.2994@dukeread06... >> This guy says he doesn't know much about radios, but he sure knows how to set a >> reserve. Ken >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140023097756 >> > > What reserve? > > jim menning > > Article: 340768 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: high Dollar Item Message-ID: <48uIg.68698$Nt2.64137@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 04:18:08 GMT "Madness" wrote in message news:T_tIg.1357$4O4.890@trnddc02... > > One thing I noticed about that is that is says "Audion Tube" in the title, yet I > don't see one anywhere in those pictures. Assuming that the right-angle thing on > top of the box that looks almost like a gas lamp is the socket for the tube? > Yes, similar to this example: http://www.antiqueradio.com/images/Nov00-Extravaganza-DeForest.jpg jim menning Article: 340769 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <12f4d7jpujhf43e@corp.supernews.com> <9bSdnQ392bbCwm_ZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: 13 tube W/G made Airline console (not mine) Message-ID: <48uIg.68697$Nt2.64827@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 04:18:08 GMT "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:9bSdnQ392bbCwm_ZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > > Ken Nevins bids first on a LOT of stuff. And, he wins a bunch of them too. > > http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidItems&userid=nevinsk&completed=1&all=1&rows=200&sort=3 He hasn't won too many lately, though. He won only 3 ( 1.8% ) of the 166 items he bid on that ended within the last 30 days. He may also be placing a lot of lowball bids, just hoping to get lucky now & then without seriously bidding to win. jim menning Article: 340770 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Someone in Kentucky...He has split the lot up now/PLEASE NOTE MY BID Date: 27 Aug 2006 21:56:31 -0700 Message-ID: <1156740990.943563.102430@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1154638284.566159.11910@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Jeffrey D Angus wrote: Sorry, too slow and the expiration date has passed. Have a good night. Article: 340771 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <12f4d7jpujhf43e@corp.supernews.com> <9bSdnQ392bbCwm_ZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com> <48uIg.68697$Nt2.64827@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: 13 tube W/G made Airline console (not mine) Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 01:55:17 -0400 Message-ID: yup, he does. I must have just looked at the few he won and had a skewed idea of his success. Ken is indeed a bottom fisher. Nothing wrong with that....but you gotta live with the rejection! Mark Oppat "jim menning" wrote in message news:48uIg.68697$Nt2.64827@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:9bSdnQ392bbCwm_ZnZ2dnUVZ_sGdnZ2d@comcast.com... > > > > > > Ken Nevins bids first on a LOT of stuff. And, he wins a bunch of them too. > > > > > > http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBidItems&userid=nevinsk&completed=1&all=1&rows=200&sort=3 > > He hasn't won too many lately, though. He won only 3 ( 1.8% ) of the 166 items he > bid on that ended within the last 30 days. > > He may also be placing a lot of lowball bids, just hoping to get lucky now & then > without seriously bidding to win. > > jim menning > > > > Article: 340772 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Looking for Dave McMullen From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 05:57:51 GMT Anyone in the Keizer,Oregon area know Dave?... Something happened to him perhaps?.. no response in a couple of weeks to emails to him.. John k9uwa Article: 340773 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 02:01:11 -0400 From: Scott Irvine Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> <12f4j67i9qmg956@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <99WdncmcaKc1G2_ZnZ2dnUVZ_omdnZ2d@insightbb.com> Hagstar wrote: > I'm saying it shows simply the seller has very poor judgment and this > probably affects every aspect of their lives including their items for sale > and treatment thereof. Reserves make for a lower ending price and discourage > bidding. They are contrary to everyone's interests especially the seller's. > No Reserve, and a one dollar or at least reasonable Starting Price are > ancient and time honored eBay principles nearly every really successful > seller considers gospel. An honest open Starting Price that is simply the > least you'd EVER take for the item, or just yanking the auction of something > like Sept. 11th comes along, covers the problems you mention. Reserves are > like some sort of tantrum thbing- "It's worth a SECRETprice but I'm not > telling! Nah nah na na nah!" > > John H. > > I don't know if this is a no-no, but I have a few times asked the seller what their reserve price is and most will tell you. Scott Irvine Article: 340774 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <37mdnce8Tqp3UnLZnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com> Subject: Re: Trans-Portable radio Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:59:10 -0700 Message-ID: > From the photo in the Sams, it appears the radio itself has it own knobs, > but there are also knobs on the "docking station." Two tuners? Two amps? > Two power sources? Two antennas? Just what is shared, anyway -- the > detector? If all you're repairing is the portable unit, who cares? It's a conventional transistor radio with a 10-pin jack on one side. You've got the Sams, I don't. Presumably the schematic should give some clue what the pins on the 10-pin connector are for. The owner who commented in my web article said that the in-dash unit had connections for power, antenna, and speaker (duh). There must be other connections for volume and tuning. Maybe you can clear it all up after you fix the radio or find a schematic for the in-dash part. Regards, Phil Nelson Article: 340775 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 03:05:07 -0400 From: Scott Irvine Subject: Re: Arvin 9562 question References: Message-ID: jim menning wrote: > "Scott Irvine" wrote in message > news:If-dnSqSauy0o3LZnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@insightbb.com... >> Larry Fowkes wrote: >>> Scott, >>> >>> Just a wild a@@ guess here, but could the 1.5 v tap be used for a dial light >>> of some sort? Is there some type of momentary contact switch on the radio to >>> light the dial as needed? >>> >>> Larry Fowkes >>> >>> "Scott Irvine" wrote in message >>> news:ZtOdnd9sN70JvHPZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@insightbb.com... >>>> I have an Arvin model #9562 transistor radio. Circa 1959-60? It uses 6 D >>>> batteries. It has a tap at 1.5v. What is the tap for and if I wanted to >>>> use an ac adapter would I need to use a 9v and a 1.5v to make the radio >>>> work? Thanks for any ideas. >>>> >>>> Scott Irvine >>> >> Sorry I forgot to say that it does not have a dial lamp. The 1.5v goes into the >> circuit board. Can't tell what it goes to without tearing it apart. > > It just powers the output transistors. > > http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4764/arvinbigkg6.jpg > > jim menning > > Does that mean I would have to use a 1.5v & 9v power supply to run it on ac? Thanks, Scott Irvine Article: 340776 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2006 23:59:32 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <12f3g6dl76npdc8@news.supernews.com> <12f4ctn4a5vrjb0@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message > news:12f3g6dl76npdc8@news.supernews.com... > >> Yeah, I often wonder if this type of item will keep its value in another >> 20 years when a lot less of us baby-boomers are around. > > No, it won't. If it's interesting only to collectors and valuable, dump it > within the next decade. I'm afraid you're right, John... Check out this picture: http://users3.ev1.net/~wck5/muchow/view19.jpg Muchow Auction audience..... Plenty of grey hairs in that crowd. Somewhere, there's another crowd picture of the auction at a different time, and the audience appears to be even older. A lot of the folks at that event seemed to be well capitalized retired guys, and the auction consisted of an inordinate number of truly hardcore collectors going for this or that item that they had wanted all their lives (at least that's what the final bids seemed to reflect). Many of the items that fetched the highest bids were >from the earliest days of radio. At the risk of sounding insensitive, it is inevitable that these guys making the big buys on the early stuff are going to croak someday. Most will probably be deceased in the next 20 years or so. When they go, who is going to take their place?. I really don't see a heck of a lot of people stepping up to the plate. Just a couple of months ago, an officer in our club attempted to unload a couple of very nice A-K 10 breadboards in our annual big auction event. They were just about as good as any I've seen, and at least one of the two included a matching speaker. Neither made reserve, and neither came close to cracking the $1000 mark. Sure, he could sell them on eBay and get top dollar, but I think he would've preferred that they went to a local collector from our club. I think a lot of the younger people in this hobby now are a lot like me...I really don't have a lot of interest in radios that were produced in the pre-superhet days. There are just too many of them that look too similar. I have a few of them in my collection, but none of them I would count as my prized, favorite radios. I like the 1930s radios because they offer a maximimum of performance, elegant and distinctive styling, and a minimum of fiddle factor. They are players as well as displayers. It doesn't hurt that they are the type of old sets I encountered at estate sales and thrift shops in my youth (I am 44 now). If I had to guess, I would say that many of the better items that were sold at the muchow auction will ultimately wind up in a Smithsonian-type place because the owners will be too old and frail to devote much time to the hobby anymore and will donate them, or they will die and the surviving members of the families will not know what to do with valuable and historical pieces. None of these scenarios bodes particularly well for price appreciation beyond the next 10 or 15 years or so. -Scott Article: 340777 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Madness Subject: Re: high Dollar Item References: <48uIg.68698$Nt2.64137@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 07:54:18 GMT Yeah, think that's the type of Audion I've seen before. Looks almost like a light bulb but has two leads coming out the top for the grid & plate. What would they empty inside of the box be for? Batteries, perhaps? jim menning wrote: > "Madness" wrote in message > news:T_tIg.1357$4O4.890@trnddc02... >> One thing I noticed about that is that is says "Audion Tube" in the title, yet I >> don't see one anywhere in those pictures. Assuming that the right-angle thing on >> top of the box that looks almost like a gas lamp is the socket for the tube? >> > > Yes, similar to this example: > > http://www.antiqueradio.com/images/Nov00-Extravaganza-DeForest.jpg > > jim menning > > Article: 340778 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 05:55:07 -0400 From: Tom Adkins Subject: Re: Mystery Turntable References: <1156340416.910462.283150@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <44ee5bb9$0$8835$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> <1156510482.844784.234610@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > Peter Wieck wrote: > >> ... to have a very clear picture of the mind of a British Engineer. > > > Heh, having owned a pre-unit '59 Triumph motorcycle.... > >> (OK, OK Lucas didn't make the radios... ) > > > Lucas... Innovators in darkness. > > Jeff > > Ahh, yes. Lucas, The Prince of Darkness. Also the reason Brits drink warm beer (Lucas refrigerators). Article: 340779 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 07:14:08 -0400 Message-ID: <12f5k059a7c9c11@corp.supernews.com> References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:ecsnn9029vh@news4.newsguy.com... > Waltons have had similar ridiculous price appreciation in the post-eBay > era, but at least you can actually LISTEN to them!> In the words of a well know Carolina early set collector opposed to all restoration- "If I want to LISTEN to a radio I'll sit in my truck." John H. Article: 340780 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: G W Subject: schematic diagram Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 05:17:29 -0600 Message-ID: <12f5k69s5u8ac08@corp.supernews.com> Hello can someone help I need a schematic for a Marconi model 293 radio thanks!! Gordon Article: 340781 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1154638284.566159.11910@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1154661884.091321.122590@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1154804668.336890.260530@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1154827349.198320.44090@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1154993429.114318.155650@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155600109.397626.276900@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1155603927.281524.94500@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1155646129.530241.222500@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <7%kEg.3207$zg.1962@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1155694728.312665.228270@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156178144.049651.98370@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156182462.072980.226570@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156740990.943563.102430@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Someone in Kentucky...He has split the lot up now/PLEASE NOTE MY BID Message-ID: <3sAIg.1412$4O4.831@trnddc02> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:29:03 GMT Gee, I was enjoying the peace and quiet -- we've gone for several days now without dealing with the fights and verbal abuses. Everyone, can we please try to keep it this way? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Steven" wrote in message news:1156740990.943563.102430@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > Sorry, too slow and the expiration date has passed. > > Have a good night. > Article: 340782 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: high Dollar Item References: <7grIg.7546$Tl4.440@dukeread06> <6nsIg.68684$Nt2.68522@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <22BIg.7560$Tl4.2943@dukeread06> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:09:32 -0400 Here's the relist message I got Sunday, looks like the same auction. Up to the relisting, it had a "reserve not met" note attached: eBay sent this message to Kenneth L. Wright (decoken). Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay. Learn more. Good news! Your watched item has been relisted. Bid Now! Dear decoken, One of your watched items has been relisted. Don't let it get away again. Bid Now! DE FOREST AUDION TELEPHONE TELEGRAPH RADIO TUBE Current price: $8,600.00 End date: Tuesday, Sep 05, 2006 18:15:00 PDT View item | Go to My eBay | View all watched items Don't let it get away Click to view item and bid or Buy It Now jim menning wrote: > "Ken" wrote in message news:7grIg.7546$Tl4.440@dukeread06... > >> >>jim menning wrote: >> >> >>>"Ken" wrote in message news:eZpIg.7537$Tl4.2994@dukeread06... >>> >>> >>>>This guy says he doesn't know much about radios, but he sure knows how to set a >>>>reserve. Ken >>>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140023097756 >>>> >>> >>> >>>What reserve? >> >>This item had a reserve, I believe it was to end today, but was re-listed. Now, no >>reserve, guess the reserve was reached??? Ken >> > > > End today and relisted? I don't think so. This auction is not a relist unless it > was from more than a month ago, it appears it is still the original 10-day auction. > It started less than two hours prior to being reported here in another thread just > yesterday. It doesn't appear anywhere else in the seller's 30-day history. > > http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewListedItems&since=30&userid=frankieben159&include=0&rows=200&sort=8&completed=1 > > The only (all five) revisions made to this auction were all to the description. > > If there were any changes made to the reserve price or length of auction it would be > listed on the revisions page. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemRevisionDetails&item=140023097756 > > When the auction was mentioned yesterday in another thread, I added it to my watch > list at that time and there was no mention of a reserve then either. > > jim menning > > > > > Article: 340783 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: high Dollar Item References: <48uIg.68698$Nt2.64137@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <1kBIg.42347$1Z5.15755@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:28:45 GMT Madness wrote: >>> One thing I noticed about that is that is says "Audion Tube" in the >>> title, yet I don't see one anywhere in those pictures. Assuming that >>> the right-angle thing on top of the box that looks almost like a gas >>> lamp is the socket for the tube? OK, let me re-ask the question, since I don't get it either. Everybody is ooh-ing and ah-ing about this audion tube, but THERE IS NO TUBE! What gives here? What am I missing? Is someone really willing to pay nearly $10,000 for a hunk of oak board and some plumbing, just because it USED TO hold a tube? What would it be worth if the tube were really there? Just a newbie to the old stuff, I guess ... Bill Article: 340784 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 08:36:03 -0500 From: Bill Cohn Subject: Re: Trans-Portable radio References: <37mdnce8Tqp3UnLZnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com> Message-ID: Look on page 46 of the 1958 Beitmen's Most Often Needed book. The Pontiac and similar Olds models schematic is shown. Regards, Bill Cohn - N9MHT jim menning wrote: > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:YSrIg.1039$4O4.145@trnddc02... >> I find threads like this rather amusing. When I mention a strange type of radio, >> suddenly everybody chimes in to tell me how common they are, and how most collectors >> have 8 or 10 of them in their hall closets. Ask a simple question about it however, >> and nobody has a clue . . . >> >> From the photo in the Sams, it appears the radio itself has it own knobs, but there >> are also knobs on the "docking station." Two tuners? Two amps? Two power sources? >> Two antennas? Just what is shared, anyway -- the detector? >> >> As I said when I started this thread, there's one on the way. I'll obviously be >> poking around inside to see what makes it tick -- or more specifically, see why it >> doesn't tick. As I learn about it I'll share it here. It obviously will be an >> interesting contraption. >> >> > > > They are/were pretty common. I sold two already this year. I've sold at least > another half dozen over the previous five years. They seem to be very common around > farm auctions in the Midwest. But I have never seen the mounting brackets for these > with the handheld part. And I have been attending radio meets for a lot of years > now, never saw a mounting bracket or dash half there either. That's probably also > true for most people here that have or had these radios in the past. Can't blame us > for that! ;o) > > Gary, you mention you have the photo of it from Sam's. Do you have the actual Sam's > folder for the docking unit? Doesn't that tell you whether or not there are two > tuning systems? What Sam's did you find it in? Or is the Sam's you have of only the > portable part? I know I have seen more than one docking station in Sam's for these > in the past, both quite different. But I don't have any model numbers handy to > locate which folders. From what I thought, one model added a slug tuned push-button > tuner to the dash part, but I thought the pushbuttons were the only tuning. That is, > I didn't think you could tune the radio to anything other than the presets from the > dash unit, and the dial only indicated where the presets stopped. I may be wrong > about this, so I'd like to check the Sam's to be sure. > > jim menning > > Article: 340785 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't Date: 28 Aug 2006 08:13:59 -0700 Message-ID: <1156778038.983715.228930@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > "Keith Park" wrote in message > news:Q2sIg.23917$uH6.20039@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > > That got my radar to go off! > > Bid placed, but outbid. > > > > Ill keep an eye on it, sure is pretty, Id have to give up my Maj 72 to > > have a place for it though. > > I keep thinking "Its too GOOD for me" but at the right price, I can do > > without having to do the total restoration > > Thanks Keith! I already have to detour a bit to Utica on the way to K-town > to pick this up- > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220017951747 > > John H. go ahead..gloat. Article: 340786 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't Date: 28 Aug 2006 08:19:39 -0700 Message-ID: <1156778379.734906.300870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > I want to marry this seller. Look at this STUNNING dreadnaught, just sitting > there with a $58- bid and NO RESERVE. I no longer bid on any Reserve > auctions, it shows the seller isn't someone I want to support (although I'm > grateful for the warning), and the goods are probably questionable too. > Sometimes it's AMAZING the asinine Reserves and added handling and or > delivery fees people pull from their posteriors. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170023153192 > > John H. i think a seller would be STUPID to sell something like this at no reserve. the ONLY bids he is going to get are people who live within 100 miles or so. so unless you have at least 2 very interested radio collectors living nearbywho happen to want a huge sparton, you can expect to get pennies on the dollar for your nice sparton. if ebay "smarts" determine a persons entire personality profile, it would seem that you like doing business with idiots who like to give their stuff away? ;) Article: 340787 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <37mdnce8Tqp3UnLZnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com> Subject: Re: Trans-Portable radio Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:21:45 GMT "Bill Cohn" wrote in message news:KqadnZ_y0b6gbG_ZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > Look on page 46 of the 1958 Beitmen's Most Often Needed book. The Pontiac and > similar Olds models schematic is shown. > > Regards, > > Bill Cohn - N9MHT > Bill, that is the 1958 model that doesn't support the outside tuning of the dash unit, that is it has no slug tuner or pushbuttons on the indash rack. That radio slides directly into the dash rack, not adjacent to it, and the dash unit has no dial of it's own. The two controls on that rack are for tone and sensitivity. Therefore the connections on the portable unit are probably not the same as the later model that had more features. I think Gary needs the information specific to the 1959 one, that did support outside tuning and pushbuttons. The knobs there I think are combined on-off/volume/tone on the left and maybe tuning/sensitivity on the right. If Gary does indeed have the Sam's, he should have all the information he needs right in front of him. jim menning Article: 340788 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Arvin 9562 question Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:31:04 GMT "Scott Irvine" wrote in message news:x6qdnS8U4Lk5CG_ZnZ2dnUVZ_oydnZ2d@insightbb.com... > jim menning wrote: >> "Scott Irvine" wrote in message >> news:If-dnSqSauy0o3LZnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@insightbb.com... >>> Larry Fowkes wrote: >>>> Scott, >>>> >>>> Just a wild a@@ guess here, but could the 1.5 v tap be used for a dial light >>>> of some sort? Is there some type of momentary contact switch on the radio to >>>> light the dial as needed? >>>> >>>> Larry Fowkes >>>> >>>> "Scott Irvine" wrote in message >>>> news:ZtOdnd9sN70JvHPZnZ2dnUVZ_vqdnZ2d@insightbb.com... >>>>> I have an Arvin model #9562 transistor radio. Circa 1959-60? It uses 6 D >>>>> batteries. It has a tap at 1.5v. What is the tap for and if I wanted to >>>>> use an ac adapter would I need to use a 9v and a 1.5v to make the radio >>>>> work? Thanks for any ideas. >>>>> >>>>> Scott Irvine >>>> >>> Sorry I forgot to say that it does not have a dial lamp. The 1.5v goes into the >>> circuit board. Can't tell what it goes to without tearing it apart. >> >> It just powers the output transistors. >> >> http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4764/arvinbigkg6.jpg >> >> jim menning > Does that mean I would have to use a 1.5v & 9v power supply to run it on ac? > Thanks, > Scott Irvine No, you need a 7-1/2 volt DC and a 1-1/2 volt DC supply. jim menning Article: 340789 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <7grIg.7546$Tl4.440@dukeread06> <6nsIg.68684$Nt2.68522@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <22BIg.7560$Tl4.2943@dukeread06> Subject: Re: high Dollar Item Message-ID: <04EIg.69025$Nt2.29788@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:36:28 GMT "Ken" wrote in message news:22BIg.7560$Tl4.2943@dukeread06... > Here's the relist message I got Sunday, looks like the same auction. Up to the > relisting, it had a "reserve not met" note attached: > > Ken, thanks for quoting the eBay email. Okay, the only way that makes sense to me if it was an auction relist from over 30 days ago, or the original auction was removed by eBay itself for some type of violation, and not cancelled and relisted by the seller. If it was removed and relisted by the seller in the last 30 days, it should be in their history page. jim menning Article: 340790 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <48uIg.68698$Nt2.64137@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1kBIg.42347$1Z5.15755@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Subject: Re: high Dollar Item Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:38:23 GMT "Bill Jeffrey" wrote in message news:1kBIg.42347$1Z5.15755@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Madness wrote: >>>> One thing I noticed about that is that is says "Audion Tube" in the title, yet I >>>> don't see one anywhere in those pictures. Assuming that the right-angle thing on >>>> top of the box that looks almost like a gas lamp is the socket for the tube? > > OK, let me re-ask the question, since I don't get it either. Everybody is ooh-ing > and ah-ing about this audion tube, but THERE IS NO TUBE! What gives here? What am > I missing? Is someone really willing to pay nearly $10,000 for a hunk of oak board > and some plumbing, just because it USED TO hold a tube? What would it be worth if > the tube were really there? > > Just a newbie to the old stuff, I guess ... > > Bill But you can get the tube from other sources. Trying to find an original device it fits into is the hard part. The tube is the cheap (relatively) part. jim menning Article: 340791 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> <1156778379.734906.300870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't Message-ID: <2gEIg.69033$Nt2.67854@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:49:18 GMT "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1156778379.734906.300870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > i think a seller would be STUPID to sell something like this at no > reserve. the ONLY bids he is going to get are people who live within > 100 miles or so. so unless you have at least 2 very interested radio > collectors living nearbywho happen to want a huge sparton, you can > expect to get pennies on the dollar for your nice sparton. if ebay > "smarts" determine a persons entire personality profile, it would seem > that you like doing business with idiots who like to give their stuff > away? ;) > But why a reserve? If you want at least $100 for something, start the bidding there. That way you have protected yourself from selling it cheaper than you want, and yet not have scared off any "reserve-shy" bidders. jim menning Article: 340792 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1156694210.468216.304570@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44F308C0.2653540A@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: 1938 Silvertone... somebody needs to make this bezel! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:52:42 GMT "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44F308C0.2653540A@earthlink.net... > Surgeon General wrote: >> > Another new id10t name of yours goes into > the "Skippy Jar". > > 3 posts here under 3 different names in one 12 minute period. Steven --- Mr. Steven --- Surgeon General What a pest. jim menning Article: 340793 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-k8vt Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> <1156778379.734906.300870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <2gEIg.69033$Nt2.67854@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:18:57 GMT jim menning wrote: > "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message > news:1156778379.734906.300870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > >> i think a seller would be STUPID to sell something like this at no >> reserve. the ONLY bids he is going to get are people who live within >> 100 miles or so. so unless you have at least 2 very interested radio >> collectors living nearbywho happen to want a huge sparton, you can >> expect to get pennies on the dollar for your nice sparton. if ebay >> "smarts" determine a persons entire personality profile, it would seem >> that you like doing business with idiots who like to give their stuff >> away? ;) >> > > But why a reserve? If you want at least $100 for something, start the bidding there. > That way you have protected yourself from selling it cheaper than you want, and yet > not have scared off any "reserve-shy" bidders. ...but that was my original question: Why are they "reserve shy"? However, starting at $100 bucks with no reserve vs starting lower -with- a reserve is just a matter of personal choice and what technique you think works best for you. I've been on the bay since 1998 and IMHO, and to me at least, it seems that a high starting bid tends to scare away more bidders than having a reserve (but Your Mileage May Vary). In any event, the originator of this thread seemed to imply there was something sinister or evil or underhanded about using a reserve... Article: 340794 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> <1156778379.734906.300870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <2gEIg.69033$Nt2.67854@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:25:52 GMT "Carter-k8vt" wrote in message news:RHEIg.12590$1f6.10187@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > jim menning wrote: >> "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message >> news:1156778379.734906.300870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... >> >>> i think a seller would be STUPID to sell something like this at no >>> reserve. the ONLY bids he is going to get are people who live within >>> 100 miles or so. so unless you have at least 2 very interested radio >>> collectors living nearbywho happen to want a huge sparton, you can >>> expect to get pennies on the dollar for your nice sparton. if ebay >>> "smarts" determine a persons entire personality profile, it would seem >>> that you like doing business with idiots who like to give their stuff >>> away? ;) >>> >> >> But why a reserve? If you want at least $100 for something, start the bidding >> there. That way you have protected yourself from selling it cheaper than you want, >> and yet not have scared off any "reserve-shy" bidders. > > > ...but that was my original question: Why are they "reserve shy"? > > However, starting at $100 bucks with no reserve vs starting lower -with- a reserve > is just a matter of personal choice and what technique you think works best for > you. I've been on the bay since 1998 and IMHO, and to me at least, it seems that a > high starting bid tends to scare away more bidders than having a reserve (but Your > Mileage May Vary). > > In any event, the originator of this thread seemed to imply there was something > sinister or evil or underhanded about using a reserve... There often is. Many times the seller doesn't even want to sell, he just wants to get an appraisal on their item. But I think reserves on the whole reflect something hidden, that need not be. jim menning Article: 340795 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't Date: 28 Aug 2006 09:26:08 -0700 Message-ID: <1156782368.853186.20560@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> jim menning wrote: > "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message > news:1156778379.734906.300870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > i think a seller would be STUPID to sell something like this at no > > reserve. the ONLY bids he is going to get are people who live within > > 100 miles or so. so unless you have at least 2 very interested radio > > collectors living nearbywho happen to want a huge sparton, you can > > expect to get pennies on the dollar for your nice sparton. if ebay > > "smarts" determine a persons entire personality profile, it would seem > > that you like doing business with idiots who like to give their stuff > > away? ;) > > > > But why a reserve? If you want at least $100 for something, start the bidding there. > That way you have protected yourself from selling it cheaper than you want, and yet > not have scared off any "reserve-shy" bidders. > > jim menning same reason they don't start a real auction off at retail. it's a mental thing. it is the reason for an auction in the first place. as a seller you want emotions to come into play. you guys know that. does it suck to be a buyer when someone else wants an item as bad as you? absolutely. is it part of the game. low starting bids always attract more attention. a hidden reserve just makes sense for a seller. Article: 340796 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: <48uIg.68698$Nt2.64137@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1kBIg.42347$1Z5.15755@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Subject: Re: high Dollar Item Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:27:23 -0500 Message-ID: I've gotten those odd re-listing notices before when in fact I had NOT been watching them. Weird. Bruce Article: 340797 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" Subject: Alan Douglas' Books Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:31:25 -0500 Message-ID: In some thread, someplace, I read where all volumes are available again. Now, I cannot find the thread or remember where the discussion took place. Could somebody jog my memory and tell me where the best place to buy all of these volumes would be? Thanks Bruce Article: 340798 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 11:32:13 -0500 From: Bill Cohn Subject: Re: Trans-Portable radio References: <37mdnce8Tqp3UnLZnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com> Message-ID: Jim, I looked again and the 1959 Beitman's has the model everyone is interested in under Delco on page 20. (Buick 98170, Oldsmobile 989172, and Pontiac 988978) It shows an extra RF stage in the dash unit along with a slug tuning unit. The internal tuner in the portable unit gets switched out when docked as does the volume and tone controls. The docking station also has the DS501 output transistor for more audio power when in the car. Bill jim menning wrote: > "Bill Cohn" wrote in message > news:KqadnZ_y0b6gbG_ZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Look on page 46 of the 1958 Beitmen's Most Often Needed book. The Pontiac and >> similar Olds models schematic is shown. >> >> Regards, >> >> Bill Cohn - N9MHT >> > > Bill, that is the 1958 model that doesn't support the outside tuning of the dash > unit, that is it has no slug tuner or pushbuttons on the indash rack. That radio > slides directly into the dash rack, not adjacent to it, and the dash unit has no dial > of it's own. The two controls on that rack are for tone and sensitivity. Therefore > the connections on the portable unit are probably not the same as the later model > that had more features. > > I think Gary needs the information specific to the 1959 one, that did support outside > tuning and pushbuttons. The knobs there I think are combined on-off/volume/tone on > the left and maybe tuning/sensitivity on the right. > > If Gary does indeed have the Sam's, he should have all the information he needs right > in front of him. > > jim menning > > > Article: 340799 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <37mdnce8Tqp3UnLZnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@giganews.com> Subject: Re: Trans-Portable radio Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:00:21 GMT Great, Bill. That should answer Gary's questions until he actually gets the unit in his hands and studies it! (I'll guess you didn't mean it switches out the tone control from the portable, that feature is only on the rack unit, the portable part only has off/volume and tuning for controls. It should cut out only the portable's volume control, and the dock unit should have a volume control and associated tone circuitry.) jim menning "Bill Cohn" wrote in message news:kK-dnXI58JIah27ZnZ2dnUVZ_radnZ2d@comcast.com... > Jim, > > I looked again and the 1959 Beitman's has the model everyone is interested in under > Delco on page 20. (Buick 98170, Oldsmobile 989172, and Pontiac 988978) > > It shows an extra RF stage in the dash unit along with a slug tuning unit. The > internal tuner in the portable unit gets switched out when docked as does the > volume and tone controls. The docking station also has the DS501 output transistor > for more audio power when in the car. > > Bill > > jim menning wrote: >> "Bill Cohn" wrote in message >> news:KqadnZ_y0b6gbG_ZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com... >>> Look on page 46 of the 1958 Beitmen's Most Often Needed book. The Pontiac and >>> similar Olds models schematic is shown. >>> >>> Regards, >>> >>> Bill Cohn - N9MHT >>> >> >> Bill, that is the 1958 model that doesn't support the outside tuning of the dash >> unit, that is it has no slug tuner or pushbuttons on the indash rack. That radio >> slides directly into the dash rack, not adjacent to it, and the dash unit has no >> dial of it's own. The two controls on that rack are for tone and sensitivity. >> Therefore the connections on the portable unit are probably not the same as the >> later model that had more features. >> >> I think Gary needs the information specific to the 1959 one, that did support >> outside tuning and pushbuttons. The knobs there I think are combined >> on-off/volume/tone on the left and maybe tuning/sensitivity on the right. >> >> If Gary does indeed have the Sam's, he should have all the information he needs >> right in front of him. >> >> jim menning >> >> Article: 340800 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:04:30 -0500 From: jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Message-ID: References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> In article <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com>, "DumpsterDiver" wrote: > Everybody's seen those "last minute shoot-outs" on Ebay, but I can't > remember ever seeing first hour action like this one .... $2800+ > within one hour of listing! > > And the pictures are TERRIBLE! If you download em and futz & fiddle > with the brightness and contrast, you can sorta make out what this item > is, but it's a real struggle. > > The seller started it at $4.99 ... and I figured I might cop it for $20 > or so if I waited till the last minute. Oh well ... > > Betcha the seller's a little surprised too! > > Ebay Item # 140023097756 (sorry, couldn't get the link to paste > correctly, but this one's worth the extra effort to search it up). Can anyone tell me what this thing is? It doesn't appear to contain any tuning components, so I assume it isn't a radio, what is it? Regards, John Byrns Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ Article: 340801 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: yerke@adelphia.net (Rick Yerke) Subject: 51 inch Diameter Woofer on Mythbusters TV Show Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:12:33 GMT Message-ID: Last night on the Mythbusters TV show they built a 51 inch diameter woofer for the inside of a car.The reason was to see if the myth was true that you could blow a car apart from the force of a subwoofer.The woofer was powered by a crackshaft connected to the transmission .The woofer didn`t last to long but it got up to 161 db at 16 HZ and was able to pop the sunroof ! They also showed a competition in Florida to see who had the car with the loudest sound system,some of them would crack plastic panels in the cars and loosen the cars outside mirrows.I see alot of hearing loss in the future of these car owners.Rick Article: 340802 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:19:19 -0500 From: jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) Subject: Re: Tape motor Message-ID: References: In article , "Gary Tayman" wrote: > Hoo boy, these weird ones come in bundles . . . > > Now I've got an 8-track player from a Mustang, T8MZ. The problem is with > the motor; it runs when it feels like it. If I insert a tape, it starts, > then stops after a second or two. If I keep playing with it, it may run for > awhile, but if I turn it off and back on, it won't run. > > The obvious place to start is the switch -- but I get 12 volts on both sides > of the switch, and at the motor controller PCB. But on the "Motor speed > regulator" I have 12 volts on the emitter, and near zero on the base and > collector when the motor stops. I have around 12 volts on the base, and 6 > volts emitter when running, which is normal. No amount of jiggling or > tapping seems to have any effect. > > This "motor speed regulator" appears to be a PNP transistor, type P1V. > According to Sams there is no replacement. So I'm sure that, for this > reason alone, it's either the transistor or the motor, as anything else is > fixable. The P1V is a Motorola Consumer Products part number for what is basically a run of the mill transistor, with special grading criteria applied, which has a nearly identical standard part equivalent that came off the same line. The special grading reflects a combination of two factors, first higher specs on some parameters to provide increased or more consistent performance, and second relaxed specs on other parameters to reduce the cost. I suspect that the P1V is a silicon transistor, by 1968 the only place Motorola might still have been using germanium transistors would have been in the audio output stage, by that time most everything else was silicon. My favorite of all these Motorola transistors was the "P1G", whose name I found interesting. Regards, John Byrns Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ Article: 340803 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:18:55 -0500 Subject: Re: 51 inch Diameter Woofer on Mythbusters TV Show From: John Stone Message-ID: References: On 8/28/06 12:12 PM, in article AfadnQlrG8Bsvm7ZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@adelphia.com, "Rick Yerke" wrote: > Last night on the Mythbusters TV show they built a 51 inch diameter woofer for > the inside of a car.The reason was to see if the myth was true that you could > blow a car apart from the force of a subwoofer.The woofer was powered by a > crackshaft connected to the transmission .The woofer didn`t last to long but > it got up to 161 db at 16 HZ and was able to pop the sunroof ! They also > showed a competition in Florida to see who had the car with the loudest sound > system,some of them would crack plastic panels in the cars and loosen the cars > outside mirrows.I see alot of hearing loss in the future of these car > owners.Rick Saw that one a while back. The only thing they could have done better would have been to add a spider to the subwoofer. Without it, the cone movement was so wild it quickly tore apart the surround. Article: 340804 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: <1156536411.801337.209110@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156566198.533774.223460@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <%yXHg.87651$uL2.803277@wagner.videotron.net> Subject: Re: Fabricating a stylus replacement Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:19:43 -0500 Message-ID: "Syl" wrote in message news:%yXHg.87651$uL2.803277@wagner.videotron.net... > "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message > news:1156566198.533774.223460@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> >> Syl wrote: > The needle was scraping the bottom of the groove. No real damage > that time, but if you were to use a Sapphire or diamond stylus to play > an early recording using a heavy reproducer, chances are you will > risk a chance to "cut" the reocrd. There's been a thread on that > subject not long ago. A member -Bruce Mercer IIRC- had the unfortunate > experience of cutting in half a record that way... > > Syl Actually, it was a sapphire tipped stylus in a '37 Seeburg jukebox that used an Audak magnetic horseshoe type pickup tracking at one ounce. About a third of the way through the stylus fractured and ruined the record. Lesson learned. The best needles for this type of pickup are steel, changed every play, or osmium tipped, best for jukebox use. (and keep an eye on the number of plays and replace it, even if early.) I know some people hate Victor Tungstone needles for use in their victrolas but I never understood why. Maybe somebody can explain that to me. Yes they were fragile to use but were recommended for use in all Victrolas and of course Victors' high end models with changers that had to have needles that had the capacity to play more than one play and also Capeharts when they came along in '31. Capehart recommended them right up until the postwar changers came out. Bruce Article: 340805 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Alan Douglas' Books Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:25:42 GMT If I'm not mistaken, I believe Volume 1 is back in print with the others forthcoming. But I don't recall for sure. However Alan frequents this list so more than likely you'll get the answer from the horse's mouth. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:W76dnaiMAdb9h27ZnZ2dnUVZ_rGdnZ2d@sigecom.net... > In some thread, someplace, I read where all volumes are available again. > Now, I cannot find the thread or remember where the discussion took place. > Could somebody jog my memory and tell me where the best place to buy all > of these volumes would be? Thanks > Bruce > Article: 340806 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Lyndell Scott" References: <1156679849.955207.158530@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A Serious Coil Winder Message-ID: <5HFIg.11732$%j7.9367@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net> Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:26:25 GMT I ask him about the shipping price and he said it weighs over 200 lbs and will be shipped in four separate boxes. Price is now out of my range. -- Lyndell Scott Audio Antiques http://geocities.com/lfscott@flash.net Article: 340807 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Koste" Subject: Re: Alan Douglas' Books Date: 28 Aug 2006 10:32:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1156786344.551010.310900@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: According to their new catalog, all three volumes of RMOT1920's are now available through RadioDaze as items BK3V1, BK3V2 and BK3V3: http://www.radiodaze.com Mike Koste Gobs of Knobs Ambler, PA Article: 340808 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: 51 inch Diameter Woofer on Mythbusters TV Show Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:34:40 GMT And I thought the sonic boom from the space shuttle was bad . . . Didn't I hear about this type of thing being used in Iraq, to make people sick? Troops were using this to "shake the bushes" (literally) to cough up Al-Queida terrorists who might be hiding in ambush. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "John Stone" wrote in message news:C1188FAF.552CE%jmsent2@comcast.net... > On 8/28/06 12:12 PM, in article > AfadnQlrG8Bsvm7ZnZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@adelphia.com, "Rick Yerke" > wrote: > >> Last night on the Mythbusters TV show they built a 51 inch diameter >> woofer for >> the inside of a car.The reason was to see if the myth was true that you >> could >> blow a car apart from the force of a subwoofer.The woofer was powered by >> a >> crackshaft connected to the transmission .The woofer didn`t last to long >> but >> it got up to 161 db at 16 HZ and was able to pop the sunroof ! They also >> showed a competition in Florida to see who had the car with the loudest >> sound >> system,some of them would crack plastic panels in the cars and loosen the >> cars >> outside mirrows.I see alot of hearing loss in the future of these car >> owners.Rick > > Saw that one a while back. The only thing they could have done better > would > have been to add a spider to the subwoofer. Without it, the cone movement > was so wild it quickly tore apart the surround. > Article: 340809 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Tape motor Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:38:58 GMT I've got an even better part number. Way back when I used to work on sharp copiers, there was a (dealer) part number for one of the drums -- it was UD-SOB. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "John Byrns" wrote in message news:jbyrns-2808061219200001@216-80-74-240.s240.tnt1.chgo.il.dialup.rcn.com... > In article , "Gary Tayman" > wrote: > >> Hoo boy, these weird ones come in bundles . . . >> >> Now I've got an 8-track player from a Mustang, T8MZ. The problem is with >> the motor; it runs when it feels like it. If I insert a tape, it starts, >> then stops after a second or two. If I keep playing with it, it may run >> for >> awhile, but if I turn it off and back on, it won't run. >> >> The obvious place to start is the switch -- but I get 12 volts on both >> sides >> of the switch, and at the motor controller PCB. But on the "Motor speed >> regulator" I have 12 volts on the emitter, and near zero on the base and >> collector when the motor stops. I have around 12 volts on the base, and >> 6 >> volts emitter when running, which is normal. No amount of jiggling or >> tapping seems to have any effect. >> >> This "motor speed regulator" appears to be a PNP transistor, type P1V. >> According to Sams there is no replacement. So I'm sure that, for this >> reason alone, it's either the transistor or the motor, as anything else >> is >> fixable. > > The P1V is a Motorola Consumer Products part number for what is basically > a run of the mill transistor, with special grading criteria applied, which > has a nearly identical standard part equivalent that came off the same > line. The special grading reflects a combination of two factors, first > higher specs on some parameters to provide increased or more consistent > performance, and second relaxed specs on other parameters to reduce the > cost. I suspect that the P1V is a silicon transistor, by 1968 the only > place Motorola might still have been using germanium transistors would > have been in the audio output stage, by that time most everything else was > silicon. > > My favorite of all these Motorola transistors was the "P1G", whose name I > found interesting. > > > Regards, > > John Byrns > > > Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ Article: 340810 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <44F0DF51.61DA511D@earthlink.net> <44F3061E.DEE9BA3C@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Tape motor Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:45:42 GMT Why I'm sitting in front of the computer, instead of putting the tape player back together, is a mystery. However I've got a new transistor and am about to put it all back together. After scratching my head over this, I've determined it has to be the transistor, and can't be the motor. here is 12 volts on the emitter, slightly less on the base (which is connected to the yellow wire of the motor), and around the same on the collector (blue wire that drives the motor). When the motor stops, there is 12 volts at the emitter, and near zero at the base and collector. If the yellow wire of the motor is somehow shorted, it would pull down the base, and the emitter. If open, you would still have 12 volts at the base. The only scenario I can see is an intermittent open from emitter to base. Hopefully in a few minutes I can tell you something. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44F3061E.DEE9BA3C@earthlink.net... > Gary Tayman wrote: >> >> I know what everyone is saying about motors, but this one just doesn't >> seem >> to be the case. If a motor has an open pole, or dirty brushes, it >> generally >> results in dead spots. If the motor doesn't run, you can turn it >> manually >> and it will "kick", or start running. >> >> With this one, nothin' doin'. When the motor runs, it runs at normal >> speed. >> When it quits, it's dead, just as if you turned off the switch. No >> amount >> of physical prodding or turning will start it again. >> >> Like I said, I don't know how the speed control works. Does the yellow >> wire >> provide a DC voltage? Or does it send out an AC signal whose frequency >> varies with speed? The circuit appears simple enough, to make me believe >> it's a DC voltage -- but why would the base voltage drop to zero? If the >> motor transducer had some sort of short, it would pull down the emitter >> voltage, so I'm getting more convinced that the transistor may be opening >> base-to-emitter. But I don't know; is there an AC element? >> >> I'm inclined to replace that transistor, but what the heck is a P1V? >> It's >> an unusual size and shape, and uses the PCB mount as a heat sink, so >> there's >> not much else that will even fit, let alone work. > > > Gary, that transistor package was used by Motorola in the '60s on > their low cost silicon power transistors, the MJE series. The package > isn't suitable for germanium transistors. I think I have some good MJE > pulls from old 8" hard drives if you want a few for free. From the look > of the circuit, the motor is likely bad. Can you lift the red wire to > measure the current? Also, that is probably a Panasonic (Matsushita) or > Sanyo motor inside the Philco shielded mount. I have a pile of new and > used 8-track motors and a few new heads left in stock. > > As far as the yellow wire, you would have to open the motor to see > what kind of feedback it gives. Some were an extra brush to generate a > pulse, while others were just an over speed switch type of governor. > Either way, it will cause an inaccurate voltage reading on the base > because of the switching. You do need a scope, unless you want to > randomly replace parts till it works. > > As far as your scope, you should build or buy a scope cart so you can > move it where you need it, or find something like my Sony/Tektronix > battery powered scope that's about the size of a newer car radio. > > > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 340811 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: 51 inch Diameter Woofer on Mythbusters TV Show Date: 28 Aug 2006 10:52:45 -0700 Message-ID: <1156787565.324188.161650@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: The question is this. Where do people who install these LOUD systems in a car get off with their enjoyment? What is so amuzing about sound so loud, it plagues you with permanent hearing loss. I'm all for good sound in a car, good clean highs, rich bassy lows, but sound to the point where it interfers with your heart rate? I can draw the line there. GB Rick Yerke wrote: > Last night on the Mythbusters TV show they built a 51 inch diameter woofer for > the inside of a car.The reason was to see if the myth was true that you could > blow a car apart from the force of a subwoofer.The woofer was powered by a > crackshaft connected to the transmission .The woofer didn`t last to long but > it got up to 161 db at 16 HZ and was able to pop the sunroof ! They also > showed a competition in Florida to see who had the car with the loudest sound > system,some of them would crack plastic panels in the cars and loosen the cars > outside mirrows.I see alot of hearing loss in the future of these car > owners.Rick Article: 340812 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lee Subject: Re: 51 inch Diameter Woofer on Mythbusters TV Show Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:59:18 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1156787565.324188.161650@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> RadioGary wrote: > The question is this. Where do people who install these LOUD systems > in a car get off with their enjoyment? What is so amuzing about sound > so loud, it plagues you with permanent hearing loss. I'm all for good > sound in a car, good clean highs, rich bassy lows, but sound to the > point where it interfers with your heart rate? I can draw the line > there. > > > GB > > Rick Yerke wrote: >> Last night on the Mythbusters TV show they built a 51 inch diameter woofer for >> the inside of a car.The reason was to see if the myth was true that you could >> blow a car apart from the force of a subwoofer.The woofer was powered by a >> crackshaft connected to the transmission .The woofer didn`t last to long but >> it got up to 161 db at 16 HZ and was able to pop the sunroof ! They also >> showed a competition in Florida to see who had the car with the loudest sound >> system,some of them would crack plastic panels in the cars and loosen the cars >> outside mirrows.I see alot of hearing loss in the future of these car >> owners.Rick > They are mostly young guys with small members! Regards Lee Article: 340813 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <44F0DF51.61DA511D@earthlink.net> <44F3061E.DEE9BA3C@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Tape motor Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:18:10 GMT Well -- there's a verdict, of sorts. With a new transistor installed, the motor runs -- and appears to keep on running. Put a tape in, and everything sounds like the Chipmunks. One of these things that's certainly trying my patience. I suppose the next step is to try subbing different base resistors, to see if I can slow it down. Why they didn't have some sort of speed adjustment is beyond me. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:aZFIg.7874$Xl5.2349@trnddc06... > Why I'm sitting in front of the computer, instead of putting the tape > player back together, is a mystery. However I've got a new transistor and > am about to put it all back together. > > After scratching my head over this, I've determined it has to be the > transistor, and can't be the motor. here is 12 volts on the emitter, > slightly less on the base (which is connected to the yellow wire of the > motor), and around the same on the collector (blue wire that drives the > motor). When the motor stops, there is 12 volts at the emitter, and near > zero at the base and collector. If the yellow wire of the motor is > somehow shorted, it would pull down the base, and the emitter. If open, > you would still have 12 volts at the base. The only scenario I can see is > an intermittent open from emitter to base. > > Hopefully in a few minutes I can tell you something. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message > news:44F3061E.DEE9BA3C@earthlink.net... >> Gary Tayman wrote: >>> >>> I know what everyone is saying about motors, but this one just doesn't >>> seem >>> to be the case. If a motor has an open pole, or dirty brushes, it >>> generally >>> results in dead spots. If the motor doesn't run, you can turn it >>> manually >>> and it will "kick", or start running. >>> >>> With this one, nothin' doin'. When the motor runs, it runs at normal >>> speed. >>> When it quits, it's dead, just as if you turned off the switch. No >>> amount >>> of physical prodding or turning will start it again. >>> >>> Like I said, I don't know how the speed control works. Does the yellow >>> wire >>> provide a DC voltage? Or does it send out an AC signal whose frequency >>> varies with speed? The circuit appears simple enough, to make me >>> believe >>> it's a DC voltage -- but why would the base voltage drop to zero? If >>> the >>> motor transducer had some sort of short, it would pull down the emitter >>> voltage, so I'm getting more convinced that the transistor may be >>> opening >>> base-to-emitter. But I don't know; is there an AC element? >>> >>> I'm inclined to replace that transistor, but what the heck is a P1V? >>> It's >>> an unusual size and shape, and uses the PCB mount as a heat sink, so >>> there's >>> not much else that will even fit, let alone work. >> >> >> Gary, that transistor package was used by Motorola in the '60s on >> their low cost silicon power transistors, the MJE series. The package >> isn't suitable for germanium transistors. I think I have some good MJE >> pulls from old 8" hard drives if you want a few for free. From the look >> of the circuit, the motor is likely bad. Can you lift the red wire to >> measure the current? Also, that is probably a Panasonic (Matsushita) or >> Sanyo motor inside the Philco shielded mount. I have a pile of new and >> used 8-track motors and a few new heads left in stock. >> >> As far as the yellow wire, you would have to open the motor to see >> what kind of feedback it gives. Some were an extra brush to generate a >> pulse, while others were just an over speed switch type of governor. >> Either way, it will cause an inaccurate voltage reading on the base >> because of the switching. You do need a scope, unless you want to >> randomly replace parts till it works. >> >> As far as your scope, you should build or buy a scope cart so you can >> move it where you need it, or find something like my Sony/Tektronix >> battery powered scope that's about the size of a newer car radio. >> >> >> -- >> Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to >> prove it. >> Member of DAV #85. >> >> Michael A. Terrell >> Central Florida > > Article: 340814 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: 51 inch Diameter Woofer on Mythbusters TV Show References: <1156787565.324188.161650@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 13:21:48 -0500 RadioGary wrote: > The question is this. Where do people who install these LOUD systems > in a car get off with their enjoyment? What is so amuzing about sound > so loud, it plagues you with permanent hearing loss. I'm all for good > sound in a car, good clean highs, rich bassy lows, but sound to the > point where it interfers with your heart rate? I can draw the line > there. > Actually, there competitions held to determing the highest SPL. The vehicles usually have all the glass replaced with Lexan, because the system would shatter the windows otherwise. People don't actually 'listen' to them. jak > > GB > > Rick Yerke wrote: >> Last night on the Mythbusters TV show they built a 51 inch diameter woofer for >> the inside of a car.The reason was to see if the myth was true that you could >> blow a car apart from the force of a subwoofer.The woofer was powered by a >> crackshaft connected to the transmission .The woofer didn`t last to long but >> it got up to 161 db at 16 HZ and was able to pop the sunroof ! They also >> showed a competition in Florida to see who had the car with the loudest sound >> system,some of them would crack plastic panels in the cars and loosen the cars >> outside mirrows.I see alot of hearing loss in the future of these car >> owners.Rick > > Article: 340815 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't Date: 28 Aug 2006 11:35:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1156790110.598906.291980@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> jim menning wrote: > > > > In any event, the originator of this thread seemed to imply there was something > > sinister or evil or underhanded about using a reserve... > > There often is. > > Many times the seller doesn't even want to sell, he just wants to get an appraisal on > their item. > > But I think reserves on the whole reflect something hidden, that need not be. > > jim menning that is an unusual way to look at it. remember...an auction is a sellers market. here's the problem from a sellers point of view... do i sell my AK breadboard and take the chance that by some fluke it brings considerably less than what it is worth. or do i spend the little bit of money that you pay for a reserve auction and protect myself. if the auction ends at 40% of what i feel it is worth, i am out the auction fee. i can then make my decision to relist, relist with a lower reserve, or relist with the same reserve and roll the dice again. an option you don't have with "no reserve." why would anyone as a seller, risk selling an item for less than market price? for any reason. are you just looking at it as a buyer? nothing sinister about reserves. it's just makes sense sometimes. Article: 340816 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 51 inch Diameter Woofer on Mythbusters TV Show Date: 28 Aug 2006 11:37:23 -0700 Message-ID: <1156790243.432536.135890@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: jakdedert wrote: > People don't actually 'listen' to them. No, they don't, nor are they anywhere near the car in the competition, nor are they even driveable beyond maybe unloading them. They use a certain frequency driven in a manner that doesn't approach musicality too. It's really a dumbass competition unless you are going into the military to conduct secret deathray testing. At least the Who did it with "Won't Get Fooled Again" etc at 212 dB in a concert...see the Guinness Book. Article: 340817 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: high Dollar Item Date: 28 Aug 2006 11:39:34 -0700 Message-ID: <1156790374.588295.257490@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Bruce Mercer wrote: > I've gotten those odd re-listing notices before when in fact I had NOT been > watching them. Weird. > > Bruce Don't reply then, go directly to eBay and don't link from the email! Done. Article: 340818 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <44F0DF51.61DA511D@earthlink.net> <44F3061E.DEE9BA3C@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Tape motor Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:39:53 GMT I think I've got it. I removed the base resistor, ran two wires out of the radio ('cause I can't play a tape without the bottom case being on), and connected the wires to a resistor box. I suspect the base resistor for two reasons -- first, the Sams sez it should be 220, and it was 390 -- and it measured around 500. Second, it makes sense that base bias will affect collector, and thus, speed. I tried a 470, and it ran, but tried to speed up at times. I moved it up and it improved, and with 1k, it's playing great. So a 1k it is -- and I'll be playing this tape for awhile to make sure. I'm getting a little tired of Herb Alpert over and over . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 340819 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: 28 Aug 2006 11:41:03 -0700 Message-ID: <1156790463.867433.110530@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <87798$44ee3f28$d1cc5670$10998@snip.allthenewsgroups.com> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > patrick jankowiak wrote: > > > > Steven wrote: > > > > > > You'll get it from whomever the company chooses as a vendor and likely > > > never know unless there was a problem. Stop being paranoid. I can see > > > the anti-Sony duo among you. > > > > > > Grow up. Stop crossposting a bazillion ways too. Google doesn't post to > > > half of them. > > > > > > > Not anti-sony, reporting of facts as they occurred in the past, that > > is all. Your following remarks are irrelevant. end of line. > > > Don't feed the troll. Don't feed tha troll h8r. He's crazee. Article: 340820 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Someone in Kentucky...He has split the lot up now/PLEASE NOTE MY BID Date: 28 Aug 2006 11:45:41 -0700 Message-ID: <1156790741.192827.29130@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1154804668.336890.260530@n13g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Gary Tayman wrote: > Gee, I was enjoying the peace and quiet -- we've gone for several days now > without dealing with the fights and verbal abuses. Everyone, can we please > try to keep it this way? If the Israelis can, the Palestinians can. Likewise if if the Pottsylvanians will leave Frostbite Falls alone. Otherwise we're on Earth. Article: 340821 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Get a SONY SW Radio now B4 their bankrupt Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 14:17:57 -0500 Message-ID: <17108-44F34165-2@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <1156790463.867433.110530@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> That ericaphone link didn't work,but yes,I think it is a made in Sweden Ericaphone I own.(hey,that rhymes) OK,my other phone that looks just like my Western Electric Princess phone is a Stromberg Carlson Slenderet phone.It is a solid red color.I call it my Moscow Hot Line phone. cuhulin Article: 340822 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: 51 inch Diameter Woofer on Mythbusters TV Show Date: 28 Aug 2006 12:35:32 -0700 Message-ID: <1156793732.248745.104890@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: > jakdedert wrote: > > > People don't actually 'listen' to them. There's a large number of these "noise nazis" here in the burbs who have sound systems worth more than the vehicles. They have literally shaken the decorations off the kitchen wall because of all the thumping and booming. I've been tempted to spray them with the garden hose since they enjoy listening to their music with the windows down. Article: 340823 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: Anyone have a Mallory-Yaxley Riders index? Date: 28 Aug 2006 12:35:36 -0700 Message-ID: <1156793736.527827.226350@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <44dff984$0$20772$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Paul Dietenberger wrote: > I need something looked up. I'm not sure if it's in Riders though. > > This is a "Plant C" radio, there's a guess that it may have been made by > Clinton. Looks like this: > http://antiqueradios.com/albums/Orphan/plant_c.jpg > 11 tube console. It calls itself Model 1101; Scott's schematic finder failed > to locate any 1101 that matches this. I'm wondering if it may be there under > some other name/number. There's a schematic glued to the inside of the > cabinet but it's awful inconvenient to use on the bench :-) and doesn't > photograph well. > > Tube lineup: 6J7, 6K7, 76(x3), 6C6(x2), 6F6(x2), 6G5, 80. > > Also looking for a small brass nameplate for it. Don't care what name is on > it, as long as it's one of those little rectangular independent maker-style > nail-on tags. > > Thanks paul, the more i look at it, the more it looks like a Sentinel. you mostly see tabletops, but they made consoles with dials exactly like that. plus, they had the little nail-on tags you are talking about. i am still looking for a picture of an example. > paul > > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 340824 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:41:56 -0400 Message-ID: <12f6hoakqm7cubb@corp.supernews.com> References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> <1156778379.734906.300870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1156778379.734906.300870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > it would seem > that you like doing business with idiots who like to give their stuff > away? You are a broken record with your endless lectures on how much more righteous you are than the rest of us. Did you even read my post? I doubt it. You saw "no reserve- good" and composed your indignant reply. Did you read the part where I said you should start the bidding at your minimum price? So if she sets the Reserve good and high, and no one bids that high, it doesn't SELL. How is it you CONSTANTLY repeat something is worth whatever people are willing to pay- unless the seller thinks it's worth more? Even if it does end up going for a hundred bucks- THAT'S WHAT IT'S WORTH because you said so. John H. Article: 340825 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:44:17 -0400 Message-ID: <12f6hso4iaarcf7@corp.supernews.com> References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> <12f4l2qnsicjce8@corp.supernews.com> <1156778038.983715.228930@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1156778038.983715.228930@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > go ahead..gloat. Impossible- no one cares (hint- not a Zenith). John H. Article: 340826 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:54:17 -0400 Message-ID: <12f6ifg1cqrfgf0@corp.supernews.com> References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> <1156778379.734906.300870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1156778379.734906.300870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > you like doing business with idiots who like to give their stuff > away? ;) > I also don't think this seller would appreciate being called an idiot for letting eBay decide what the item is worth. John H. Article: 340827 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: Tape motor Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 12:55:08 -0700 Message-ID: <7511-44F34A1C-512@storefull-3175.bay.webtv.net> References: Gary: This is a shot in the dark, but i'll run it by you anyway. It would require removing the back of the motor can. If the commutator has tiny ceramic capacitors between the segments, check those for shorts. I once pulled my hair out over a player that would speed up momentarily ("chipmunks") and go back to normal speed, speed up again ad nauseum. Finally traced it to one of those three tiny ceramics on the commutator. Replaced it (guessing at the value) an the player was fine. Bill(oc) Article: 340828 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: high Dollar Item References: <7grIg.7546$Tl4.440@dukeread06> <6nsIg.68684$Nt2.68522@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <22BIg.7560$Tl4.2943@dukeread06> <04EIg.69025$Nt2.29788@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:06:04 -0400 It looks like when the original auction ended and the reserve wasn't met, it was relisted at the same price with no reserve??? Ken jim menning wrote: > "Ken" wrote in message news:22BIg.7560$Tl4.2943@dukeread06... > >>Here's the relist message I got Sunday, looks like the same auction. Up to the >>relisting, it had a "reserve not met" note attached: >> >> > > > Ken, thanks for quoting the eBay email. Okay, the only way that makes sense to me if > it was an auction relist from over 30 days ago, or the original auction was removed > by eBay itself for some type of violation, and not cancelled and relisted by the > seller. If it was removed and relisted by the seller in the last 30 days, it should > be in their history page. > > jim menning > > Article: 340829 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 15:22:25 -0500 From: Bill Cohn Subject: Re: Tape motor References: <44F0DF51.61DA511D@earthlink.net> <44F3061E.DEE9BA3C@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Gary, I worked in an Auto Sound repair shop in 1970 where I repaired many 8 track units with the transistor speed regulator. You may still have a bad motor. You may have just masked the problem by changing the base resistor. If the regulator is working properly you should be able to vary the supply voltage from 11.5 to about 14.4 volts with the speed staying fairly constant. If this is not possible the regulator is not working and the speed will change in the car as the supply voltage changes. Make sure the speed is constant for a range of input voltage before you give it back or the customer will be disappointed. Regards, Bill Cohn - N9MHT Gary Tayman wrote: > I think I've got it. > > I removed the base resistor, ran two wires out of the radio ('cause I can't > play a tape without the bottom case being on), and connected the wires to a > resistor box. I suspect the base resistor for two reasons -- first, the > Sams sez it should be 220, and it was 390 -- and it measured around 500. > Second, it makes sense that base bias will affect collector, and thus, > speed. >u > I tried a 470, and it ran, but tried to speed up at times. I moved it up > and it improved, and with 1k, it's playing great. > > So a 1k it is -- and I'll be playing this tape for awhile to make sure. I'm > getting a little tired of Herb Alpert over and over . . . > > > Article: 340830 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't Date: 28 Aug 2006 13:36:33 -0700 Message-ID: <1156797393.441086.75940@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message > news:1156778379.734906.300870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > > it would seem > > that you like doing business with idiots who like to give their stuff > > away? > > You are a broken record with your endless lectures on how much more > righteous you are than the rest of us. Did you even read my post? I doubt > it. You saw "no reserve- good" and composed your indignant reply. Did you > read the part where I said you should start the bidding at your minimum > price? So if she sets the Reserve good and high, and no one bids that high, > it doesn't SELL. How is it you CONSTANTLY repeat something is worth > whatever people are willing to pay- unless the seller thinks it's worth > more? Even if it does end up going for a hundred bucks- THAT'S WHAT IT'S > WORTH because you said so. > > John H. dang john...didn't get your nap in today? did you not see the little winky smiley face? john...seriously....things don't always bring what they are worth. there are variables outside the sellers control. ebay problems, depressed market, an item MISCATEGORIZED, bad start/end time, bad spelling, just plain bad luck that the right person didn't see it, etc.. in the event something like this happens, the seller has to protect his interest. DID YOU NOT READ MY PRIOR POST??? what does the starting/reserve price have to do with what you think an item is worth anyway?? you bid what it is worth and if it doesn't make reserve, move on. you are looking at this strickly from a buyers/sniper point of view. auctions are for sellers too. mostly sellers. remember, to win an auction, you have to want it worse than anybody else that looked at it. this is ESPECIALLY true when you set the start price at the price you need to get for an item. i sold some collectible guitars on ebay. the first auction didn't make the reserve. ended at something like 650.00. i relisted the guitar and it went around 1000.00. if i had went no reserve, i am out 350-400.00. no real reason, just because. the guitar was worth what it brought the second time around. Article: 340831 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: The "Clean Bench Challenge" is underway! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:08:44 GMT I know some are you have been waiting in anticipation, but I've officially started the clean bench campaign -- I just posted a few photos on the binaries. So now it's time to see everyone else's clean/dirty benches once again! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 340832 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Reserve Shyness Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:11:43 -0400 Message-ID: <12f6n0lonmpaabd@corp.supernews.com> References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> <1156778379.734906.300870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <2gEIg.69033$Nt2.67854@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> For me this is so visceral it's hard to explain. Take the 13 tube Wells Gardner discussed elsewhere now on the block. I just can't be bothered to bid because from previous experience with this seller I know the Reserve is about what the item would sell for on a good day at a radio swap. I might snipe it or bid the last day if someone else reveals the Reserve. But let me ask you, Carter- why would anyone bother to bid? Well, unless you have a few grand as a budget and are just dead set on *this* radio. Otherwise, you place a bid but it doesn't meet Reserve so what does it mean? Not a whole lot- you'll never win the auction unless you bid again. I was the high bidder on a dozen auctions the last few months that didn't meet Reserve, never got a idea of WHAT they had in mind for any of them. I don't really think the Reserve actually is a bad thing if it's really low so people shoot past it quickly. When years ago I used them I based them on what I have into the item if that would work, NEVER on what it "ought to be" worth. I suppose for really nichey specialty items eddie is right though- if you have only 3 or 4 folks in all of eBayland who might bid, 2 or 3 or them could be away on vacation. John H. Article: 340833 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: 51 inch Diameter Woofer on Mythbusters TV Show Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 17:15:50 -0400 Message-ID: <12f6n8a46acdi37@news.supernews.com> References: <1156787565.324188.161650@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1156787565.324188.161650@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... > The question is this. Where do people who install these LOUD systems > in a car get off with their enjoyment? What is so amuzing about sound > so loud, it plagues you with permanent hearing loss. I'm all for good > sound in a car, good clean highs, rich bassy lows, but sound to the > point where it interfers with your heart rate? I can draw the line > there. It's a fashion statement, nothing more, Gary. And their moms already told them that theywouldbesorrywhentheyareherageandtheycan'thearanythinganymore!! Article: 340834 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 51 inch Diameter Woofer on Mythbusters TV Show From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:29:44 GMT In article , jmsent2@comcast.net says... > > >I see alot of hearing loss in the future of these car >> owners.Rick Excellent Investment... buy stock in Hearing Aid Companies! John k9uwa Article: 340835 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jtoth624@gmail.com Subject: FA: 1964 GE P990-A 'WORLD MONITOR' SHORT WAVE RADIO MULTI BAND Date: 28 Aug 2006 14:38:40 -0700 Message-ID: <1156801120.672205.242310@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> For auction is a nice vintage working 1964 GE P990-A "World Monitor" multi-band radio. The only issue with it is the FM antenna "retaining clip" issue that plagues many of these units but is in nice shape all around. Both antennas are perfect with no kinks or crimps and all features, bands and controls work fine. Have a look, it's a nice radio! http://tinyurl.com/rx99u Article: 340836 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: pgonshor@aol.com Subject: Transoceanic advice needed Date: 28 Aug 2006 15:03:03 -0700 Message-ID: <1156802583.262130.289240@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I have a TO that plays great on all bands with the rod antenna. As soon as I connect the broadcast wavemagnetic, the broadcast reception gets stronger, but is somewhat garbled. It is not nearly as distortion free as with the rod antenna. Yes, the loop has good continuity down to the chassis (just under an ohm). It's almost like it is overloading the RF stage, but also like one end is not connected. Any ideas? Thanks, Dave Article: 340837 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <1156786344.551010.310900@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Alan Douglas' Books Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:25:24 -0400 Message-ID: Yep, they are back in stock - I have had volumes 1 and 3 for a couple years, and I just got volume 2 in the mail from Radio Daze last Saturday. Glad I could finally complete the set. "Mike Koste" wrote in message news:1156786344.551010.310900@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > According to their new catalog, all three volumes of RMOT1920's are now > available through RadioDaze as items BK3V1, BK3V2 and BK3V3: > http://www.radiodaze.com > > Mike Koste > Gobs of Knobs > Ambler, PA > Article: 340838 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1156802583.262130.289240@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Transoceanic advice needed Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:51:10 -0400 Message-ID: Are you mounting the loop in the door? You dont say which TO this is but I suspect a common 1946-58 tube model. The door hinges are the connection, so they need to be intact. The snap connectors get corroded too. Seems to me that these TO's will not work on BC band without the loop.. so I wonder why yours does with just the rod antenna. Mark Oppat wrote in message news:1156802583.262130.289240@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > I have a TO that plays great on all bands with the rod antenna. As > soon as I connect the broadcast wavemagnetic, the broadcast reception > gets stronger, but is somewhat garbled. It is not nearly as distortion > free as with the rod antenna. Yes, the loop has good continuity down > to the chassis (just under an ohm). It's almost like it is overloading > the RF stage, but also like one end is not connected. Any ideas? > Thanks, > Dave > > Article: 340839 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: pgonshor@aol.com Subject: Re: Transoceanic advice needed Date: 28 Aug 2006 16:03:08 -0700 Message-ID: <1156806188.105121.198420@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1156802583.262130.289240@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Mark Oppat wrote: > Are you mounting the loop in the door? You dont say which TO this is but I > suspect a common 1946-58 tube model. The door hinges are the connection, so > they need to be intact. The snap connectors get corroded too. Seems to me > that these TO's will not work on BC band without the loop.. so I wonder why > yours does with just the rod antenna. > > Mark Oppat > It is an 8G005. Good snap and door hinge connections. Good resistance through the loop. Without the loop, it is distortion free, although I need the turn the volume pot up a bit. With the loop, distortion and I can't turn the volume pot down sufficient to quiet the set. Any more suggestions? Thanks for any help, Dave Article: 340840 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Transoceanic advice needed References: <1156802583.262130.289240@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:23:17 -0400 I've heard this before when there is too much antenna connected, or connected in the wrong place, sometimes called hum or 60cy modulation. May need to be tuned for a better match. Ken pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > I have a TO that plays great on all bands with the rod antenna. As > soon as I connect the broadcast wavemagnetic, the broadcast reception > gets stronger, but is somewhat garbled. It is not nearly as distortion > free as with the rod antenna. Yes, the loop has good continuity down > to the chassis (just under an ohm). It's almost like it is overloading > the RF stage, but also like one end is not connected. Any ideas? > Thanks, > Dave > Article: 340841 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1156802583.262130.289240@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156806188.105121.198420@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Transoceanic advice needed Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 16:22:04 -0700 Message-ID: > can't turn the volume pot down sufficient to quiet the set. IIRC, this is a design feature. If you can't turn the volume all the way down to silence, you're less likely to unintentionally drain the battery. Phil From adouglasatgis.net Sat Sep 2 09:25:58 EDT 2006 Article: 340842 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:22:18 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Lines: 15 Message-ID: <79u6f21mjods22svf6n3r20ukotbuiqd3u@4ax.com> References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-232.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newshub.sdsu.edu!pln-e!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:340842 Hi, >Can anyone tell me what this thing is? It doesn't appear to contain any >tuning components, so I assume it isn't a radio, what is it? It's a De Forest RJ-8 Audion control box, first sold in February 1916. It appears to be in good original condition and it is extremely rare. To answer someone else previously, it's listed as an Audion because that's what the nameplate says, which is all the seller had to go on, at first. That's the generic nameplate that de Forest put on all of his devices. Alan From adouglasatgis.net Sat Sep 2 09:25:58 EDT 2006 Article: 340843 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Alan Douglas' Books Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:27:49 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <1156786344.551010.310900@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-615.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!pln-w!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:340843 Hi, >If I'm not mistaken, I believe Volume 1 is back in print with the others >forthcoming. But I don't recall for sure. However Alan frequents this list >so more than likely you'll get the answer from the horse's mouth. That's correct. My suggestion for a seller is Antique Radio Classified, www.antiqueradio.com or something similar. Alan Article: 340844 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:47:44 -0400 Message-ID: <12f70575id4ga99@corp.supernews.com> References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> <1156778379.734906.300870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <12f6hoakqm7cubb@corp.supernews.com> <1156797393.441086.75940@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Sorry for being so strident eddie. I missed my nap AND busted a tooth to the tune of $1100- clams this weekend. I don't think the idiot part was called for though, idiot has a quality which no smiley can modify. Okay, idiot :)? See, that's STILL nasty, I didn't mean it however. John H. Article: 340845 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Superhet Subject: Re: 51 inch Diameter Woofer on Mythbusters TV Show References: <1156787565.324188.161650@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1156790243.432536.135890@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1156793732.248745.104890@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:58:28 GMT I'd like to spray them with something more than a hose, howabout 00 BUCK! AuroraOldRadios wrote: > Steven wrote: >> jakdedert wrote: >> >>> People don't actually 'listen' to them. > There's a large number of these "noise nazis" here in the burbs who > have sound systems worth more than the vehicles. They have literally > shaken the decorations off the kitchen wall because of all the thumping > and booming. I've been tempted to spray them with the garden hose since > they enjoy listening to their music with the windows down. > Article: 340846 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-k8vt Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> <12f4j67i9qmg956@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:02:52 GMT combined reply for John H. and Jim Menning... Hagstar wrote: > I'm saying it shows simply the seller has very poor judgment and this > probably affects every aspect of their lives including their items for sale > and treatment thereof. see my comments on this statement below > Reserves make for a lower ending price and discourage > bidding. They are contrary to everyone's interests especially the seller's. I truly do not understand why you say a reserve means -lower- prices and is contrary to the -seller's- interests. As Eddie so rightly pointed out, it PROTECTS the seller; i.e due to the vagaries of eBay--Sept 11, 2001 (granted, an extreme example), eBay just running hot or cold that particular week, the one or two bidders that -really- would like to have the item missing the auction for whatever reason, etc, etc. > No Reserve, and a one dollar or at least reasonable Starting Price are > ancient and time honored eBay principles nearly every really successful > seller considers gospel. An honest open Starting Price that is simply the > least you'd EVER take for the item, Again, as Eddie pointed out and as I previously stated, eBay is an AUCTION service--you don't put the -starting- bid at essentially (or almost) the full final retail price. This is usually the kiss of death for the seller. I have seen so many auctions with a very high starting price that garnered -zero- bids. Many people -like- to play the auction game. > or just yanking the auction of something > like Sept. 11th comes along, covers the problems you mention. If you aren't getting your price and you just rudely yank the auction at the last minute because you are not getting your price, isn't this the *functional equivalent* of having a reserve? > Reserves are > like some sort of tantrum thbing- "It's worth a SECRETprice but I'm not > telling! Nah nah na na nah!" See below... ...and here is the "see below": You are going to a swap to try and sell your Zenith or A-K or whatever widget for $125 and put a price tag for that amount on your widget. In your heart of hearts (or in the back of your mind), you realize that at least some people at swaps like to haggle or dicker a bit. Therefore you feel that the rock bottom minimum that you will accept for your widget is $100. (and, yes, this presumes that your price tag didn't say $125 FIRM--that is an entirely different issue). Well, don't look now but you've just set a reserve! (and a "secret" one at that). And I say secret because if somebody came along and gave you your full asking price of $125, I think you would take it and not blurt out your "secret" of "Oh, I'll really take $100". So in reality, YOU had -your- "nah, nah, na, na secret price" (the hundred bucks) that you didn't tell them about. Finally, you said in your first sentence above that you having your "what you would really accept" price (the 100 bucks you would accept) indicating that you "have very poor judgment that affects every aspect of your life". Sorry, but that is *huge* stretch* and a gigantic leap of "illogic" that I don't accept. Granted, there will be the occasional "seller" that for whatever reason is just looking for an appraisal, but I have found that the vast majority on eBay are actually trying to sell their item. Even at that, I would not call the appraisal guy sinister or underhanded. I would be more grumpy with the no-reserve guy that doesn't think he will get his price and then just rudely "yanks" his auction at the last minute. He is performing the functional equivalent of a reserve but without the appropriate etiquette. Article: 340847 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Transoceanic advice needed Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 09:12:50 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1156802583.262130.289240@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156806188.105121.198420@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! wrote in message news:1156806188.105121.198420@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > Mark Oppat wrote: >> Are you mounting the loop in the door? You dont say which TO this is but >> I >> suspect a common 1946-58 tube model. The door hinges are the connection, >> so >> they need to be intact. The snap connectors get corroded too. Seems to >> me >> that these TO's will not work on BC band without the loop.. so I wonder >> why >> yours does with just the rod antenna. >> >> Mark Oppat >> > It is an 8G005. Good snap and door hinge connections. Good resistance > through the loop. Without the loop, it is distortion free, although I > need the turn the volume pot up a bit. With the loop, distortion and I > can't turn the volume pot down sufficient to quiet the set. Any more > suggestions? Thanks for any help, > Dave > I've never been able to turn the volume all the way down on a TO. Has this been recapped? Sounds like maybe you have a fault in the AGC circuit.. the AM shouldn't work very well off the monopole at all, from the schematic it looks as though only the loop is in the circuit in the AM position. Article: 340848 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <12f3g6dl76npdc8@news.supernews.com> <12f4ctn4a5vrjb0@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:13:06 -0500 Message-ID: >>>snipped > If I had to guess, I would say that many of the better items that were > sold at the muchow auction will ultimately wind up in a Smithsonian-type > place because the owners will be too old and frail to devote much time to > the hobby anymore and will donate them, or they will die and the surviving > members of the families will not know what to do with valuable and > historical pieces. > > None of these scenarios bodes particularly well for price appreciation > beyond the next 10 or 15 years or so. > > -Scott > I don't know.......maybe. In the phonograph field that doesn't seem to be the case for really early items, or even later items into the Diamond Disc era. Certain DD records easily now bring 150.00 to 300.00 apiece. The lateral cut records are doing the same. Tinfoil machines now easily fetch 30,000.+ I hope the trend continues for early examples of both fields. I sure haven't seen the prices fall in the last 40 years, and yes, I am concerned about what will happen to my collection when I am no longer its' custodian. I guess the next 10 or 15 years will show whether that scenario plays out or not. Bruce Article: 340849 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 19:29:55 -0500 From: jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Message-ID: References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <79u6f21mjods22svf6n3r20ukotbuiqd3u@4ax.com> In article <79u6f21mjods22svf6n3r20ukotbuiqd3u@4ax.com>, Alan Douglas wrote: > Hi, > > >Can anyone tell me what this thing is? It doesn't appear to contain any > >tuning components, so I assume it isn't a radio, what is it? > > It's a De Forest RJ-8 Audion control box, first sold in February > 1916. It appears to be in good original condition and it is extremely > rare. OK, but what is it used for, and how is it used? Or to put it another way what is its relationship to radios? Regards, John Byrns Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ Article: 340850 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:28:19 -0400 Message-ID: <12f72h9op4nle0d@corp.supernews.com> References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> <12f4j67i9qmg956@corp.supernews.com> "Carter-k8vt" wrote in message news:MuLIg.12033$%j7.5167@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net... > > Again, as Eddie pointed out and as I previously stated, eBay is an > AUCTION service--you don't put the -starting- bid at essentially (or > almost) the full final retail price. I guess you and eddie are on the same page as far as not reading what I wrote. Where did I say ANYTHING about "full retail price"? That would be the a stupid idea. I said clearly, specifically, and repeatedly your ROCK BOTTOM price. For instance, I have a Zenith 6B129 tombstone that when it is completed will have about $75- into it total. SO, THAT would be the Reserve if I ever sold it on eBay (for a radio worth about $300- or more). If you paid a lot for something then maybe a Reserve is the only way to protect it, but I've never paid a lot so I don't know. Zenith 8S129 Reserve $99- Walton's Reserve- $999- Stratosphere Reserve $9,999- I guess what caused the issue is my statement about " the least you would take". I was assuming you were willing to adjust that to what people might want to pay, an irresistible price that might be less than you paid.. Because I believe anything else is madness. John H. Article: 340851 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Superhet Subject: Re: Transoceanic advice needed References: <1156802583.262130.289240@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156806188.105121.198420@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <%TLIg.23963$uH6.11999@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:29:47 GMT If it hasn't been recapped then it's going to be tough to trouble shoot with all those leaky caps. Brenda Ann wrote: Article: 340852 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <44F0DF51.61DA511D@earthlink.net> <44F3061E.DEE9BA3C@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Tape motor Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:30:30 GMT With the base resistor at 390 ohms, the motor runs fast. Apparently this is >from the new transistor being turned on hard. At about 500 ohms, the motor settles in and tries to run at speed, but there's a little bit of wow that can be heard -- like the motor's trying to run a hair faster. At 680, 820, 910, or 1k it maintains its speed well. I still haven't determined whether the transducer feeds back DC, AC, or some sort of pulses, but as it is with the 1k bias it seems to hold its speed well. Remember, Sams shows the base resistor at 220 ohms, and it had a 390 in there. That leads me to believe that this resistor is "picked" to match the transistor, and that in this case, a replacement transistor required a higher base resistor. This unit had some other annoying problems as well, and it didn't help much to be interrupted with a barrage of phone calls -- most of which were 'vote for me' recordings, but by the end of the day, it's finally ready to go. . . . And now, to answer the other question -- now that I've got this one off the bench, I have a little more time to clean -- and that includes setting a scope that I already have, onto a cart that I already have. In fact I'm taking all the test equipment that I rarely use, removing it from the bench, and shelving it; I can pull these pieces out at such times as I need them. Meanwhile I can use the extra room. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Bill Cohn" wrote in message news:LvednZYXHp7nzW7ZnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Gary, > > I worked in an Auto Sound repair shop in 1970 where I repaired many 8 > track units with the transistor speed regulator. You may still have a bad > motor. You may have just masked the problem by changing the base resistor. > If the regulator is working properly you should be able to vary the supply > voltage from 11.5 to about 14.4 volts with the speed staying fairly > constant. If this is not possible the regulator is not working and the > speed will change in the car as the supply voltage changes. Make sure the > speed is constant for a range of input voltage before you give it back or > the customer will be disappointed. > > Regards, > > Bill Cohn - N9MHT > > Gary Tayman wrote: >> I think I've got it. >> >> I removed the base resistor, ran two wires out of the radio ('cause I >> can't play a tape without the bottom case being on), and connected the >> wires to a resistor box. I suspect the base resistor for two reasons -- >> first, the Sams sez it should be 220, and it was 390 -- and it measured >> around 500. Second, it makes sense that base bias will affect collector, >> and thus, speed. >>u >> I tried a 470, and it ran, but tried to speed up at times. I moved it up >> and it improved, and with 1k, it's playing great. >> >> So a 1k it is -- and I'll be playing this tape for awhile to make sure. >> I'm getting a little tired of Herb Alpert over and over . . . >> >> Article: 340853 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Transoceanic advice needed Date: 28 Aug 2006 17:50:16 -0700 Message-ID: <1156812616.537280.42250@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156802583.262130.289240@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > I have a TO that plays great on all bands with the rod antenna. Overloaded front end. Keep in mind that the wavemagnet on the separate cord was for difficult conditions... suction-cupped to high-iron-content glass in moving conveyances, not the peaceful fixed location of your home. Stick with the unit in-situ and it will be fine. Or use it as intended when traveling. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 340854 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> <12f4l2qnsicjce8@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:52:57 GMT Thats quite Unique, neat! You cant miss with a Stromberg! Keith > > Thanks Keith! I already have to detour a bit to Utica on the way to > K-town to pick this up- > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=220017951747 > > John H. > Article: 340855 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "philsvintageradios" Subject: another TO question Date: 28 Aug 2006 17:57:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1156813021.273042.308290@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I didn't want to confuse the other thread, but I have a similar question about a transocianic. This one of the transistor portables, I don't have it in front of me so won't quote the model number just now.. it has leather on the sides,that is coming off, some similar models were made with plastic sides. If I open the back there is a plastic box that holds the batteries , above that there is a switch, it is a two position swith that slides. this is inside the case, not accessable without opening the back. What is this switch for? I can't seem to hear a difference between the two positions.. Phil Article: 340856 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Eddie Brimer" Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't Date: 28 Aug 2006 18:08:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1156813681.895599.53270@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > Sorry for being so strident eddie. I missed my nap AND busted a tooth to > the tune of $1100- clams this weekend. I don't think the idiot part was > called for though, idiot has a quality which no smiley can modify. Okay, > idiot :)? See, that's STILL nasty, I didn't mean it however. > > John H. you are forgiven. 1100.00 can make you grouchy. i said you want the people you buy from to be idiots, not you. 1100.00 could have bought one of these nice breadboards i am selling.... Article: 340857 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 51 inch Diameter Woofer on Mythbusters TV Show Date: 28 Aug 2006 18:25:26 -0700 Message-ID: <1156814726.110350.143520@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Superhet wrote: > I'd like to spray them with something more than a hose, howabout 00 BUCK! > > AuroraOldRadios wrote: > > Steven wrote: > >> jakdedert wrote: > >> > >>> People don't actually 'listen' to them. > > There's a large number of these "noise nazis" here in the burbs who > > have sound systems worth more than the vehicles. They have literally > > shaken the decorations off the kitchen wall because of all the thumping > > and booming. I've been tempted to spray them with the garden hose since > > they enjoy listening to their music with the windows down. Assisting them in meeting nice police officers with good writing skills would be good, teaching them to love BOB James as well as RICK James would be even better. Article: 340858 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Someone Like Keith Near Albany- Buy This So I Won't Date: 28 Aug 2006 18:33:07 -0700 Message-ID: <1156815187.246893.25380@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> If anybody actually knew how to win a perfect auction, the BS wouldn't smell as bad. And the auction bays would be empty all the time. Whatever. Boys are Boys till they die. Article: 340859 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "c.hugh cline" References: Subject: Re: high Dollar Item Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 01:37:35 GMT I saw this item today in person as I know the seller. Came out of an attic of a large house. Never know what you might find. C. Hugh Cline "Ken" wrote in message news:eZpIg.7537$Tl4.2994@dukeread06... > This guy says he doesn't know much about radios, but he sure knows how to > set a reserve. Ken > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140023097756 > Article: 340860 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "L." References: <48uIg.68698$Nt2.64137@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1kBIg.42347$1Z5.15755@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Subject: Re: high Dollar Item Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:42:00 -0400 Message-ID: <44f39b6a$0$10216$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:V8CdnZsQW-zwhG7ZnZ2dnUVZ_qidnZ2d@sigecom.net... > I've gotten those odd re-listing notices before when in fact I had NOT > been watching them. Weird. > > Bruce > I got one too and it was NOT sent from E-bay. It was about an auction for a "sports" item - which had NO bids on it and auction ended. BE CAREFUL.............. People ARE also pirating pictures of items previously on E-bay by others. L. Article: 340861 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1156813021.273042.308290@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: another TO question Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:44:51 -0700 Message-ID: > above that there is a switch, it is a two position swith that slides. > this is inside the case, not accessable without opening the back. Boy, you had me scratching my head for a while, there. I own a 1000, 3000-1, and R7000-2, and never remember seeing anything like that. But apparently some 1000s came with a phono jack and radio/phono switch inside the back as you describe. The operating guide at http://www.transoceanic.nostalgiaair.org/1000.htm gives a picture and brief explanation. I peeked inside my 1000, and it has holes in the chassis where the slide switch would go, but no phono jack or hole for one. I guess not all 1000s had this feature. A phono jack for a transistor portable seems like kind of an odd feature. Perhaps it was an option. Anyhow . . . you learn something new every day! Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 340862 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve Phipps" Subject: Re: another TO question Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 21:12:35 -0500 Message-ID: <12f78kvn144rje3@corp.supernews.com> References: <1156813021.273042.308290@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Here's another TO question. Just bought a super nice 1000 that plays at about 1/2 to 3/4 full volume when turned to max. Otherwise it has excellent sensitivity and sounds great. Any ideas? Steve P. "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:ZeCdnZ0P2LSAAW7ZnZ2dnUVZ_oKdnZ2d@giganews.com... > But apparently some 1000s came with a phono jack and radio/phono switch > inside the back as you describe. Article: 340863 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: pgonshor@aol.com Subject: Re: Transoceanic advice needed Date: 28 Aug 2006 19:15:46 -0700 Message-ID: <1156817746.162047.273230@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1156802583.262130.289240@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > Overloaded front end. Keep in mind that the wavemagnet on the separate > cord was for difficult conditions... suction-cupped to > high-iron-content glass in moving conveyances, not the peaceful fixed > location of your home. > > Stick with the unit in-situ and it will be fine. Or use it as intended > when traveling. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA OK, some thoughts Peter. The owners manual says that the radio should be played for standard broadcast stations as delivered, with both the rod and the wavemagnet connected but the rod not extended. The radio was to be rotated to get the best reception because the built-in loop is directional. So, I wondered if the modern radio stations of today were broadcasting much higher power than in the late 30's (the basis for this early post-war design). I found that 50 kW stations were licensed in the mid-thirties, so that could not be it. So, why didn't this problem exist when the radio was produced in the later 1940's? Dave Article: 340864 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 22:23:24 -0400 From: Stewart Schooley Subject: OT: Have you read about steorn? Message-ID: It's not about radios, but interesting from a technical standpoint. What interests me the most is how these guys are bringing attention to what they are doing and the claims they are making. Do a Google on steorn Stewart Article: 340865 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 28 Aug 2006 19:35:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1156818921.438695.94220@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Stewart Schooley wrote: > It's not about radios, but interesting from a technical standpoint. What > interests me the most is how these guys are bringing attention to what > they are doing and the claims they are making. > > Do a Google on steorn > > Stewart Use the word in a sentence after cpellchecking Article: 340866 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 28 Aug 2006 20:43:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1156822984.872428.100060@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: Europeans with Fig Newtons not Newton's Laws. Heavy lager not heavy water. Pregnant men are next. Huh? Been done? Still phony too... They had a guy with a twin in his belly but that was uplifting reading...yeah They have to blog SOMETHING my friend? Article: 340867 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: 1938 Silvertone... somebody needs to make this bezel! References: <1156694210.468216.304570@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <44F308C0.2653540A@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 03:51:35 GMT Michael A. Terrell wrote: > You can die first, Skippy. Another new id10t name of yours > goes into the "Skippy Jar". Which brings to mind... What is the difference between Syphilis, Gonorrhea and Dinius? You can actually get rid of the first two. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 340868 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1156813021.273042.308290@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: another TO question Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:44:51 -0700 Message-ID: > above that there is a switch, it is a two position swith that slides. > this is inside the case, not accessable without opening the back. Boy, you had me scratching my head for a while, there. I own a 1000, 3000-1, and R7000-2, and never remember seeing anything like that. But apparently some 1000s came with a phono jack and radio/phono switch inside the back as you describe. The operating guide at http://www.transoceanic.nostalgiaair.org/1000.htm gives a picture and brief explanation. I peeked inside my 1000, and it has holes in the chassis where the slide switch would go, but no phono jack or hole for one. I guess not all 1000s had this feature. A phono jack for a transistor portable seems like kind of an odd feature. Perhaps it was an option. Anyhow . . . you learn something new every day! Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 340869 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1156813021.273042.308290@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <12f78kvn144rje3@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: another TO question Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 20:54:26 -0700 Message-ID: Have you cleaned the volume control and bandswitch? Phil Nelson Article: 340870 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1156813021.273042.308290@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <12f78kvn144rje3@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: another TO question Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 00:52:02 -0400 Message-ID: The transistor TO's have the same plagues as all older transistor equipment... bad electrolytics and bad transisitors... in that order. Any electrolytic can go "dry" and still pass some signal but not so much. The transistors in the TO's go bad too. Be sure to clean the bandswitch WELL too. Mark Oppat "Steve Phipps" wrote in message news:12f78kvn144rje3@corp.supernews.com... > Here's another TO question. Just bought a super nice 1000 that plays at > about 1/2 to 3/4 full volume when turned to max. Otherwise it has excellent > sensitivity and sounds great. Any ideas? > > Steve P. > > "Phil Nelson" wrote in message > news:ZeCdnZ0P2LSAAW7ZnZ2dnUVZ_oKdnZ2d@giganews.com... > > > But apparently some 1000s came with a phono jack and radio/phono switch > > inside the back as you describe. > > > Article: 340871 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1156802583.262130.289240@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156806188.105121.198420@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <%TLIg.23963$uH6.11999@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Transoceanic advice needed Date: Mon, 28 Aug 2006 23:05:33 -0700 Message-ID: <-eOdnXTk99uuRG7ZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@giganews.com> > If it hasn't been recapped then it's going to be tough to trouble shoot > with all those leaky caps. Can I hear an Amen! See http://antiqueradio.org/zen16.htm , or http://antiqueradio.org/recap.htm if you need more basic advice about recapping. Have fun, Phil Nelson Article: 340872 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Transoceanic advice needed Date: 29 Aug 2006 03:46:30 -0700 Message-ID: <1156848390.603562.132310@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1156802583.262130.289240@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > So, why didn't > this problem exist when the radio was produced in the later 1940's? > Dave It did. Now, the user did have the option to de-sensitize the radio a bit by tweeking the trimmer on the tuning cap, but that is best left alone. When using the radio at home and from mains-power, just leave well-enough alone with all the fancy antennas, leave the back closed and go with the flow. If one is in the back-of-beyond, then ring out the big wavemagnet. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 340873 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1156802583.262130.289240@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156806188.105121.198420@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <%TLIg.23963$uH6.11999@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <-eOdnXTk99uuRG7ZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@giganews.com> Subject: Re: Transoceanic advice needed Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:57:46 GMT Amen! "pgonshor" didn't mention whether he had recapped this radio or not. If it has paper caps, replace them all immediately -- don't pass go or collect $200 until you do. There may be AVC problems, grid bias problems, cathode bypass problems, all of which can give you distortion and all of which are usually caused by leaky caps. Chances are this will fix the problem. If not, then come back here & we'll continue . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:-eOdnXTk99uuRG7ZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@giganews.com... >> If it hasn't been recapped then it's going to be tough to trouble shoot >> with all those leaky caps. > > Can I hear an Amen! > > See http://antiqueradio.org/zen16.htm , or > http://antiqueradio.org/recap.htm if you need more basic advice about > recapping. > > Have fun, > > Phil Nelson > > From adouglasatgis.net Sat Sep 2 09:26:01 EDT 2006 Article: 340874 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 06:46:00 -0400 Organization: NewsGuy - Unlimited Usenet $19.95 Lines: 20 Message-ID: <0e68f2ltpfju87cn9smqp7uorqidrjsh6q@4ax.com> References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <79u6f21mjods22svf6n3r20ukotbuiqd3u@4ax.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-184.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeeds.sol.net!atl-c07.usenetserver.com!news.usenetserver.com!pd7cy3no!shaw.ca!newscon04.news.prodigy.net!prodigy.net!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news3 Xref: news0.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:340874 Hi, >> It's a De Forest RJ-8 Audion control box, first sold in February >> 1916. It appears to be in good original condition and it is extremely >> rare. > >OK, but what is it used for, and how is it used? Or to put it another way >what is its relationship to radios? It provides the operating voltages for the Audion tube. You connect batteries to it, and it has the filament rheostat, and plate potentiometer (the semicircular piece of graphite with the wiper arm). The seller also mentioned he was selling a Colby tuner separately, which would have gone with this box to make a complete radio circuit. Colby stuff is rare also. As I remember it was a wireless school near Albany or something. Colby had a writeup in the AWA Old TImers Bulletin years ago. Alan Article: 340875 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1156787565.324188.161650@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 51 inch Diameter Woofer on Mythbusters TV Show Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:08:55 GMT Possibly this might give you some insight -- My T-Bird is 42 years old. It has a "Thunderbird" 390 FE engine, with Edelbrock manifold, straight thru pipes and cherry bombs in the back. It all provides a nice, mellow tone which is actually rather soothing until I step on the gas -- then you hear it! It is essentially, maximum legal. Try doing that to one of today's Hyundai 4-bangers (as some have done) and it sounds like a bumble bee with terminal flatulence. Today's cars need subwoofers to make up the difference . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1156787565.324188.161650@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... > The question is this. Where do people who install these LOUD systems > in a car get off with their enjoyment? What is so amuzing about sound > so loud, it plagues you with permanent hearing loss. I'm all for good > sound in a car, good clean highs, rich bassy lows, but sound to the > point where it interfers with your heart rate? I can draw the line > there. > > > GB > > Rick Yerke wrote: >> Last night on the Mythbusters TV show they built a 51 inch diameter >> woofer for >> the inside of a car.The reason was to see if the myth was true that you >> could >> blow a car apart from the force of a subwoofer.The woofer was powered by >> a >> crackshaft connected to the transmission .The woofer didn`t last to long >> but >> it got up to 161 db at 16 HZ and was able to pop the sunroof ! They also >> showed a competition in Florida to see who had the car with the loudest >> sound >> system,some of them would crack plastic panels in the cars and loosen the >> cars >> outside mirrows.I see alot of hearing loss in the future of these car >> owners.Rick > Article: 340876 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: pgonshor@aol.com Subject: Re: Transoceanic advice needed Date: 29 Aug 2006 04:37:29 -0700 Message-ID: <1156851449.730325.117170@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1156802583.262130.289240@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Yes, I agree it does sound like an AGC problem. The radio has been partially recapped, so I will complete the process. Also, I believe there is a 4.7 meg resistor in the AGC circuit. I found an open 4.7 meg in the second detector, so I suspect I may have a bad resistor in the AGC. Thanks all for the tips. Dave Article: 340877 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? References: <1156818921.438695.94220@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1156822984.872428.100060@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <58WIg.7893$Tl4.5287@dukeread06> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 08:09:34 -0400 How about De-codeing this post, Stevie????? Steven wrote: > Europeans with Fig Newtons not Newton's Laws. Heavy lager not heavy > water. > > Pregnant men are next. > > Huh? Been done? Still phony too... > > They had a guy with a twin in his belly but that was uplifting > reading...yeah > > They have to blog SOMETHING my friend? > Article: 340878 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Lyndell Scott" References: Subject: Re: 51 inch Diameter Woofer on Mythbusters TV Show Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:45:03 GMT My next door neighbor is a 21 year old living with his dad. He has a friend who comes over sometimes that has one of these systems. I feel it more than hear it and it is disruptive to my nervous system in a way I can't explain. For me, scrapping one's nails on a blackboard is soothing compared to that experience. I wonder what its doing to the nervous system of the young men and women who listen to these systems, much less what its doing to their ears. -- Lyndell Scott Audio Antiques http://geocities.com/lfscott@flash.net Article: 340879 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: Transoceanic advice needed References: <1156802583.262130.289240@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156812616.537280.42250@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156817746.162047.273230@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:04:12 GMT pgonshor@aol.com wrote: > Peter Wieck wrote: > >>Overloaded front end. > > OK, some thoughts Peter. The owners manual says that the radio should > be played for standard broadcast stations as delivered, with both the > rod and the wavemagnet connected but the rod not extended. The radio > was to be rotated to get the best reception because the built-in loop > is directional. Dabve - If you rotate the loop to a non-optimal direction (decreasing signal strength), does the distortion lessen? Bill Article: 340880 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: anti-dinius@lycos.com Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 29 Aug 2006 06:19:36 -0700 Message-ID: <1156857576.312411.28640@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Ken wrote: > How about De-codeing this post, Stevie????? > > Steven wrote: > > > Europeans with Fig Newtons not Newton's Laws. Heavy lager not heavy > > water. > > > > Pregnant men are next. > > > > Huh? Been done? Still phony too... > > > > They had a guy with a twin in his belly but that was uplifting > > reading...yeah > > > > They have to blog SOMETHING my friend? I'll take a crack at it. After his gaffe regarding the spelling, he felt it was necessary to belittle the topic in order to redeem himself. It's too far gone for that though. ---Europeans with Fig Newtons not Newton's Laws. Newton's laws = real physics, Fig Newtons = guy dancing in silly costume. ---Heavy lager not heavy water. Heavy water = real physics, heavy lager = they're drunk ---Pregnant men are next. --- Huh? Been done? Still phony too... ---They had a guy with a twin in his belly but that was uplifting reading...yeah Seems to imply they're making it all up. ---They have to blog SOMETHING my friend? Perhaps an explanation why he claims they made it up. They need something to write about in their blogs. It's unclear why the question mark is there. Drunken Europeans doing silly things and making up fake technology so they have blog material says Dinius. With 774,000 google hits on the subject, I tend to disagree. Article: 340881 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: another TO question Date: 29 Aug 2006 06:33:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1156858433.933720.103710@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1156813021.273042.308290@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Mark Oppat wrote: > The transistor TO's have the same plagues as all older transistor > equipment... bad electrolytics and bad transisitors... in that order. Any > electrolytic can go "dry" and still pass some signal but not so much. The > transistors in the TO's go bad too. Be sure to clean the bandswitch WELL > too. > > Mark Oppat > Those hard to replace little electrolytics near the volume control are probably the problem. Article: 340882 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:53:23 GMT Stewart Schooley wrote: > It's not about radios, but interesting from a technical standpoint. What > interests me the most is how these guys are bringing attention to what > they are doing and the claims they are making. Skippy's drooling aside... On Steorn: http://www.steorn.net/en/technology.aspx?p=5 And on a related subject: http://www.cheniere.org/ You're right, they are fascinating projects. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 340883 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" References: Subject: Re: The "Clean Bench Challenge" is underway! Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 07:30:32 -0700 Message-ID: <44f44f8b$0$96190$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> The only time my bench will be clean is after the estate sale my wife will be having (someday). Steve Article: 340884 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "L." References: <44f44f8b$0$96190$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net> Subject: Re: The "Clean Bench Challenge" is underway! Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 10:39:54 -0400 Message-ID: <44f451bc$0$10205$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "Steve" wrote in message news:44f44f8b$0$96190$742ec2ed@news.sonic.net... > The only time my bench will be clean is after > the estate sale my wife will be having (someday). > > Steve > I solved that issue two ways.......... tore down my old bench, built a new one with LOTS of room to work and for storage. I wired it so that in case it has to be moved, I pull like 6 plugs and some butt type connectors apart - pop out the dozen or so screws holding it together and away it goes. And that was YEARS after divorcing the bitch. So, SHE won't prosper........ Yep, I'm happy........... :) I can work in peace in more ways than one. L. Article: 340885 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:03:09 -0400 From: Stewart Schooley Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? References: Message-ID: Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > Stewart Schooley wrote: > >> It's not about radios, but interesting from a technical standpoint. >> What interests me the most is how these guys are bringing attention to >> what they are doing and the claims they are making. > > > Skippy's drooling aside... > > On Steorn: > http://www.steorn.net/en/technology.aspx?p=5 > > And on a related subject: > http://www.cheniere.org/ > > You're right, they are fascinating projects. > > Jeff > Jeff, After looking at your links and others on the subject, I think that the two guys from Steorn are not involved in any technological development at all, but are acting as agents for others who are. Fascinating indeed, but I have to be careful about all this. I've been down this road before with other "new developments" only to find out they were a lot of hooey, or in this case, blarney. Stewart Article: 340886 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:07:02 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <12f3g6dl76npdc8@news.supernews.com> <12f4ctn4a5vrjb0@corp.supernews.com> In "Scott W. Harvey" writes: >Hagstar wrote: >> "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message >> news:12f3g6dl76npdc8@news.supernews.com... >> >>> Yeah, I often wonder if this type of item will keep its value in another >>> 20 years when a lot less of us baby-boomers are around. >> >> No, it won't. If it's interesting only to collectors and valuable, dump it >> within the next decade. >I'm afraid you're right, John... >Check out this picture: >http://users3.ev1.net/~wck5/muchow/view19.jpg >Muchow Auction audience..... >Plenty of grey hairs in that crowd. Somewhere, there's another crowd >picture of the auction at a different time, and the audience appears to >be even older. I don't think you can draw any conclusions from that other than there were a lot of old guys at that auction. Ralph Muchow was old school, and perhaps its not surprising that many of his contemporaries who knew him, or knew of him, would attend his estate auction. >At the risk of sounding insensitive, it is inevitable that these guys >making the big buys on the early stuff are going to croak someday. Most >will probably be deceased in the next 20 years or so. >When they go, who is going to take their place?. I really don't see a >heck of a lot of people stepping up to the plate. I've raised this point before, and I'll say it again: you can't judge membership and interest in such a hobby by public representation. The best you can conclude from a straw poll taken at an auction or meet is that a lot of old guys go to auctions and meets. >I think a lot of the younger people in this hobby now are a lot like >me...I really don't have a lot of interest in radios that were produced >in the pre-superhet days. There are just too many of them that look too >similar. I have a few of them in my collection, but none of them I would >count as my prized, favorite radios. I like the 1930s radios because >they offer a maximimum of performance, elegant and distinctive styling, >and a minimum of fiddle factor. They are players as well as displayers. >It doesn't hurt that they are the type of old sets I encountered at >estate sales and thrift shops in my youth (I am 44 now). I just turned 46, and happen to love the early stuff. A lot of my buying over the past few years, in fact, has been early scientific instruments and associated machinery. The appeal to me is two-fold: aesthetics and history. I don't really need to measure the Earth's magnetic field vector, but it's neat to be able to do so. :) That's another way of saying performance and operation is definitely secondary to me (I work in modern electronics and have performance up to here). Also, perhaps unlike other collectors, I can't *stand* the stuff from the era of my youth. How contrary am I? I'm not so sure. I do know it's not just the gray hairs going for the earliest and most historic stuff. I don't believe you can make a fair estimate based on who shows up at an auction. It may simply be that crowd is the one with the time or predilection to attend. Hell, a lot of weekends I'm not even in bed by the time these auctions start. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340887 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:09:29 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <12f3g6dl76npdc8@news.supernews.com> <12f4ctn4a5vrjb0@corp.supernews.com> In "Bruce Mercer" writes: >yes, I am concerned about what will happen to my collection when >I am no longer its' custodian. I'll take good care of it, I promise. Hey! Did you sign that little paper I sent ya? Nothing important, no need to read it over... :) :) :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340888 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 29 Aug 2006 08:19:17 -0700 Message-ID: <1156864756.880916.217180@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: Stewart Schooley wrote: > Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > > > > Stewart Schooley wrote: > > > >> It's not about radios, but interesting from a technical standpoint. > >> What interests me the most is how these guys are bringing attention to > >> what they are doing and the claims they are making. > > > > > > Skippy's drooling aside... > > > > On Steorn: > > http://www.steorn.net/en/technology.aspx?p=5 > > > > And on a related subject: > > http://www.cheniere.org/ > > > > You're right, they are fascinating projects. > > > > Jeff > > > Jeff, > > After looking at your links and others on the subject, I think that the > two guys from Steorn are not involved in any technological development > at all, but are acting as agents for others who are. > > Fascinating indeed, but I have to be careful about all this. I've been > down this road before with other "new developments" only to find out > they were a lot of hooey, or in this case, blarney. > > Stewart Middlemen tend to accentuate hooey if 15 min of shame helps pay the Visa. And yes, I looked long enough to figure it was hooey on my own. Jeff, why don't you and "anti-dinius" get a good match of Rock-em Sock-em Robots (the old knock the others head off in a boxing ring game) going on? You need to relieve stress without the prospects of alcohol based toxicity problems (hangover) in the morning. Stewart, why did you even bring this up? Article: 340889 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 29 Aug 2006 08:24:30 -0700 Message-ID: <1156865070.699845.255890@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: anti-dinius@lycos.com wrote: > Ken wrote: > > How about De-codeing this post, Stevie????? > > > > Steven wrote: > > > > > Europeans with Fig Newtons not Newton's Laws. Heavy lager not heavy > > > water. > > > > > > Pregnant men are next. > > > > > > Huh? Been done? Still phony too... > > > > > > They had a guy with a twin in his belly but that was uplifting > > > reading...yeah > > > > > > They have to blog SOMETHING my friend? > > I'll take a crack at it. > > After his gaffe regarding the spelling, he felt it was necessary to > belittle the topic in order to redeem himself. It's too far gone for > that though. The misspelling was intentional, a pun. I'm sure you are having a "crack" at it. If you're a gold-plated turd because others were gold-plated, I'm still not buying you. Fix a radio. If I see you in my Lycos mail I will send a complaint. Article: 340890 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: The "Clean Bench Challenge" is underway! Date: 29 Aug 2006 08:28:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1156865291.051447.281240@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Gary Tayman wrote: > I know some are you have been waiting in anticipation, but I've officially > started the clean bench campaign -- I just posted a few photos on the > binaries. So now it's time to see everyone else's clean/dirty benches once > again! My whole house is a bench and I've been at it all week. I might see the pix when they hit Harvey's archives. Article: 340891 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:31:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <12f3g6dl76npdc8@news.supernews.com> <12f4ctn4a5vrjb0@corp.supernews.com> In "Bruce Mercer" writes: >Tinfoil machines now easily fetch 30,000.+ I hope the trend continues for >early examples of both fields. >I sure haven't seen the prices fall in the last 40 years I'm with Bruce on this one. In fact, the object in question is a rather odd example to bring up in an argument otherwise. Within the first DAY of listing the price has shot thru the roof! Very, very few artifacts command this kind of attention. Yes, perhaps breadboards have peaked, but prices have hardly dropped like a stone. The only time I've seen a drastic downturn is in a relatively new field of collecting. I also collect toasters, and organized collecting -- replete with price guides, clubs, etc. etc. -- is fairly recent. Certain toasters hit the ceiling until other folk started paying attention and more examples came out of the woodwork. I don't see that happening with wireless. People have been after them for a sufficient number of decades, and original production was so small, I don't think there's a lot more of them to be found. One or two may trickle into the light, such as the item on auction, but I don't see hundreds being dug up over the next couple of decades. Plus, regardless of the personal appeal, the historic importance of these machines is undeniable. This is something from the VERY beginning of the communications era! We hadn't even been an industrialized nation very long when this was built. It will only continue to be seen as an example from the nascent cradle of the modern era. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340892 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: 51 inch Diameter Woofer on Mythbusters TV Show Date: 29 Aug 2006 08:34:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1156865653.360135.103860@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: Gary Tayman wrote: > Possibly this might give you some insight -- > > My T-Bird is 42 years old. It has a "Thunderbird" 390 FE engine, with > Edelbrock manifold, straight thru pipes and cherry bombs in the back. It > all provides a nice, mellow tone which is actually rather soothing until I > step on the gas -- then you hear it! It is essentially, maximum legal. > > Try doing that to one of today's Hyundai 4-bangers (as some have done) and > it sounds like a bumble bee with terminal flatulence. Today's cars need > subwoofers to make up the difference . . . > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > "RadioGary" wrote in message > news:1156787565.324188.161650@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... > > The question is this. Where do people who install these LOUD systems > > in a car get off with their enjoyment? What is so amuzing about sound > > so loud, it plagues you with permanent hearing loss. I'm all for good > > sound in a car, good clean highs, rich bassy lows, but sound to the > > point where it interfers with your heart rate? I can draw the line > > there. > > > > > > GB > > > > Rick Yerke wrote: > >> Last night on the Mythbusters TV show they built a 51 inch diameter > >> woofer for > >> the inside of a car.The reason was to see if the myth was true that you > >> could > >> blow a car apart from the force of a subwoofer.The woofer was powered by > >> a > >> crackshaft connected to the transmission .The woofer didn`t last to long > >> but > >> it got up to 161 db at 16 HZ and was able to pop the sunroof ! They also > >> showed a competition in Florida to see who had the car with the loudest > >> sound > >> system,some of them would crack plastic panels in the cars and loosen the > >> cars > >> outside mirrows.I see alot of hearing loss in the future of these car > >> owners.Rick It would be alright if it was a computer that made it sound like a nitro-burning funny car and the side exhausts were just behind the door (no sedans in this case). Where are those hemi Dodge Colts when you need them? Article: 340893 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Bozo" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 29 Aug 2006 08:34:39 -0700 Message-ID: <1156865678.964813.326700@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: > Stewart, why did you even bring this up? Considering you can't control yourself and feel the need to reply to nearly every topic even though you have nothing meaningful to add, more posts = more opportunities for you to make a fool of yourself. Article: 340894 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 29 Aug 2006 08:36:50 -0700 Message-ID: <1156865810.756296.121480@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: Anti-Bozo wrote: > Steven wrote: > > > Stewart, why did you even bring this up? > > Considering you can't control yourself and feel the need to reply to > nearly every topic even though you have nothing meaningful to add, more > posts = more opportunities for you to make a fool of yourself. Why don't I say shut up Menning and see if we ferret out our ferret? Article: 340895 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 29 Aug 2006 08:39:07 -0700 Message-ID: <1156865947.348160.29690@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Steven wrote: > > Jeff, why don't you and "anti-dinius" get a good match of Rock-em > > Sock-em Robots (the old knock the others head off in a boxing ring > > game) going on? You need to relieve stress without the prospects of > > alcohol based toxicity problems (hangover) in the morning. > > Why don't you go throw yourself in front of a bus. There are more buses in Glendale...why don't you? Article: 340896 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 29 Aug 2006 08:39:09 -0700 Message-ID: <1156865949.127364.30140@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Steven wrote: > > Jeff, why don't you and "anti-dinius" get a good match of Rock-em > > Sock-em Robots (the old knock the others head off in a boxing ring > > game) going on? You need to relieve stress without the prospects of > > alcohol based toxicity problems (hangover) in the morning. > > Why don't you go throw yourself in front of a bus. There are more buses in Glendale...why don't you? Article: 340897 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 29 Aug 2006 08:39:14 -0700 Message-ID: <1156865954.833056.110670@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Steven wrote: > > Jeff, why don't you and "anti-dinius" get a good match of Rock-em > > Sock-em Robots (the old knock the others head off in a boxing ring > > game) going on? You need to relieve stress without the prospects of > > alcohol based toxicity problems (hangover) in the morning. > > Why don't you go throw yourself in front of a bus. There are more buses in Glendale...why don't you? Article: 340898 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Bozo" Subject: OT - The Color Green Date: 29 Aug 2006 08:40:06 -0700 Message-ID: <1156866006.325415.197230@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> - Article: 340899 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1156864756.880916.217180@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1156865678.964813.326700@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <1156865810.756296.121480@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:59:35 GMT "Steven" wrote in message news:1156865810.756296.121480@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > Anti-Bozo wrote: >> Steven wrote: >> >> > Stewart, why did you even bring this up? >> >> Considering you can't control yourself and feel the need to reply to >> nearly every topic even though you have nothing meaningful to add, more >> posts = more opportunities for you to make a fool of yourself. > > Why don't I say shut up Menning and see if we ferret out our ferret? > Fuck you Dinius, I say what I want to say without hiding behind pseudonyms. jim menning Article: 340900 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:18:57 -0400 From: Stewart Schooley Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? References: <1156864756.880916.217180@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: > > Stewart, why did you even bring this up? I"ll break my rule and reply to you directly.......this time only! I brought it up because this group has consistenty shown an interest in technical and scientific matters beyond radios. I certainly didn't bring it up so you could hijack another thread in order to make yourself the center of interest. Would you be so kind to provide this group with the name and e-mail address of your welfare sponsored mental health counselors? We could e-mail them and inform them of your behavior here so that it might facilitate your treatment. Most sincerely, Stewart Article: 340901 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "L." References: <1156864756.880916.217180@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:27:00 -0400 Message-ID: <44f46ad7$0$10213$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "Stewart Schooley" wrote in message news:hoydnRGwhrN09WnZnZ2dnUVZ_o2dnZ2d@bright.net... > >> >> Stewart, why did you even bring this up? > > I"ll break my rule and reply to you directly.......this time only! > > I brought it up because this group has consistenty shown an interest in > technical and scientific matters beyond radios. > > I certainly didn't bring it up so you could hijack another thread in order > to make yourself the center of interest. > > Would you be so kind to provide this group with the name and e-mail > address of your welfare sponsored mental health counselors? We could > e-mail them and inform them of your behavior here so that it might > facilitate your treatment. > > Most sincerely, > > Stewart He's BEYOND hope.............. OR HELP. The best thing we can hope for is his computer to crash. OR ISP go out of business. L. Article: 340902 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:33:11 -0500 From: jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Message-ID: References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <79u6f21mjods22svf6n3r20ukotbuiqd3u@4ax.com> <0e68f2ltpfju87cn9smqp7uorqidrjsh6q@4ax.com> In article <0e68f2ltpfju87cn9smqp7uorqidrjsh6q@4ax.com>, Alan Douglas wrote: > Hi, > > >> It's a De Forest RJ-8 Audion control box, first sold in February > >> 1916. It appears to be in good original condition and it is extremely > >> rare. > > > >OK, but what is it used for, and how is it used? Or to put it another way > >what is its relationship to radios? > > It provides the operating voltages for the Audion tube. You > connect batteries to it, and it has the filament rheostat, and plate > potentiometer (the semicircular piece of graphite with the wiper arm). > > The seller also mentioned he was selling a Colby tuner separately, > which would have gone with this box to make a complete radio circuit. > Colby stuff is rare also. As I remember it was a wireless school near > Albany or something. Colby had a writeup in the AWA Old TImers > Bulletin years ago. Thanks Alan, I think I have got it now. Thanks also for explaining the "the semicircular piece of graphite with the wiper arm" which had me totally baffled, a "plate potentiometer" is something I haven't seen in many, if any, radios before. Regards, John Byrns Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ Article: 340903 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Bozo" Subject: Re: The "Clean Bench Challenge" is underway! Date: 29 Aug 2006 09:42:22 -0700 Message-ID: <1156869742.957621.248960@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: > My whole house is a bench and I've been at it all week. What happens after the week it up? Do the police kick you out of the park? I thought the governmant took better care of you than that. Article: 340904 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 29 Aug 2006 09:50:17 -0700 Message-ID: <1156870217.270625.49740@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Stewart Schooley wrote: > It's not about radios, but interesting from a technical standpoint. What > interests me the most is how these guys are bringing attention to what > they are doing and the claims they are making. > > Do a Google on steorn > > Stewart Perpetual motion has been around since the dawn of time. Today it is manifest more often as "cold fusion" or 100.005% efficient Sterling Cycle engines. Any number of over-balance engines have been attempted, the theory was even applied briefly to steam locomotives, and the pursuit of which is believed by some to have led to the development of the Sterling-cycle engines. This appears to be no different. With all due respect, we will next start in on the theory that Big Oil will/has/is going to surpress any such developments; that they are already in the can somewhere; that cold-fusion exists at a practical level; and so forth. The problem with conspiracy theories is that perforce far too many individuals must be 'in the know' for them to last any length of time greater than 10 years less 1/2 the remaining period per additional conspirator... two conspirators = 10 years, three = 5 years, four = 2.5 years and forth. This formula is mine, BTW, and offered only as opinion based on observation, not holy writ. And on an historical note, when Big Oil and Big Rubber and Big Industry went after the streetcar and inter-urban transport companies, they did it right up front without pretense. "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" was built around some loosely accurate historical events, exaggerated for effect, of course. But: as Stewart brought this in as a technology-related pointer, the Sterling engine is extremely efficient after all. Maybe something will come of this system as well. BTW, we also have air-lubricated zero-wear bearings from the same efforts. Skippy: Go away. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 340905 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pin Geek" Subject: RCA automobile 45 changer? Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 12:55:00 -0400 Message-ID: Hi all, A while back on Ebay I saw a flyer with Steve Allen on it for some kind of RCA 45 record changer for your car. I think there was just one model made and they scrapped it. Well, a buddy of mine wants one for a vintage car he is restoring. Do these exist anywhere? Any leads on one would be most greatly appreciated. I think dead or alive is acceptable. Are they hard to repair? Any leads, PLEASE email me at pingeek@pingeek.com Thanks, Josh http://www.pingeek.com Get your pinball show dvds here: http://www.thepinballshow.com From Grundig1972YachtBoy210 Sat Sep 2 09:26:05 EDT 2006 Article: 340906 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Grundig1972YachtBoy210 Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: FS portables (Grundig / Philips, AIR,SW, AM, LW ..) User-Agent: Newspost/2.1.1 (http://newspost.unixcab.org/) X-No-Archive: yes NNTP-Posting-Host: news.stben.net Message-ID: <44f473c0@news.stben.net> Date: 29 Aug 2006 19:05:04 +0200 Organization: C.S. 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More pictures on http://users.fulladsl.be/spb13810/sell/radio/ Article: 340907 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:11:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1156870217.270625.49740@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> In <1156870217.270625.49740@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" writes: >This appears to be no different. With all due respect, we will next >start in on the theory that Big Oil will/has/is going to surpress any >such developments; that they are already in the can somewhere; that >cold-fusion exists at a practical level; and so forth. The absolute worst has to be Big Oil's manipulation of the American public such that many people have been forced to live in large, fully airconditioned homes and drive inefficient SUV's. Damn them! >But: as Stewart brought this in as a technology-related pointer, the >Sterling engine is extremely efficient after all. Maybe something will >come of this system as well. BTW, we also have air-lubricated zero-wear >bearings from the same efforts. Several very interesting, and very collectable, fans were made in the teens and twenties using Sterling cycle engines. The most common brand in the US was Lakebreeze of Chicago. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340908 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Beloved Leader" Subject: Re: Looking for a Trade Date: 29 Aug 2006 10:15:23 -0700 Message-ID: <1156871722.946253.301240@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156515424.465254.269150@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> graham wrote: > .. the AR Amplifier/Universal, the model Peter is talking about, was made > in the USA from 1969 to 1974 and is a totally different beast ... I recall them now. I don't believe I ever saw one. Article: 340909 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: RCA automobile 45 changer? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:18:03 GMT There was an ARC record player that had a fair amount of popularity for awhile. It played 45's, and the player was upside down. You lifted the stack of records onto the spindle, it played them, then dropped each one onto the bottom. I'm not quite sure of the significance of "ARC", but I believe they were made by RCA, and for some dumb reason they didn't want to use the RCA name with it -- so they put the initials backwards. Several years ago someone sent me one to repair. At the time I was so busy with other car radios that I didn't have time to get anywhere near it. After awhile I apologized and sent it back. I kinda would like to have seen it in action, but it wasn't to be. I suppose the best place to find something like this might be eBay. What the going price is, I don't know. If/when you do find one and fix it up, be careful -- the biggest problem with these wasn't the players, but the records. Leave a few 45's in your parked car for an hour and you'll see what I mean. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Pin Geek" wrote in message news:X8OdnVD7X7377GnZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Hi all, > A while back on Ebay I saw a flyer with Steve Allen on it for some kind of > RCA 45 record changer for your car. I think there was just one model made > and they scrapped it. Well, a buddy of mine wants one for a vintage car > he is restoring. Do these exist anywhere? Any leads on one would be most > greatly appreciated. I think dead or alive is acceptable. Are they hard to > repair? > > Any leads, PLEASE email me at pingeek@pingeek.com > > Thanks, > Josh > http://www.pingeek.com > Get your pinball show dvds here: > http://www.thepinballshow.com > > > Article: 340910 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pin Geek" References: Subject: Re: RCA automobile 45 changer? Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:24:52 -0400 Message-ID: Thanks. I'll keep my eyes out on Ebay. Yeah, that's the one the guy was raving about. But I mentioned the same thing about warped records and he was like, oh no, they are enclosed so they will be fine. Not true. Still though, a nice novelty if you keep the car in your garage. I wouldn't mind owning one myself, if I had a vintage car to install it in;) This reminds me of a time when I hit a yard sale years back, and the guy had a pile of 78 records on a table, half in the sun, half out. They were melting like candles, melting over the edge of the table. I wish I'd snapped a pic of it. Weird stuff. -- Josh http://www.pingeek.com Get your pinball show dvds here: http://www.thepinballshow.com "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:fF_Ig.2934$XD1.1133@trnddc01... > There was an ARC record player that had a fair amount of popularity for > awhile. It played 45's, and the player was upside down. You lifted the > stack of records onto the spindle, it played them, then dropped each one > onto the bottom. > > I'm not quite sure of the significance of "ARC", but I believe they were > made by RCA, and for some dumb reason they didn't want to use the RCA name > with it -- so they put the initials backwards. > > Several years ago someone sent me one to repair. At the time I was so > busy with other car radios that I didn't have time to get anywhere near > it. After awhile I apologized and sent it back. I kinda would like to > have seen it in action, but it wasn't to be. > > I suppose the best place to find something like this might be eBay. What > the going price is, I don't know. > > If/when you do find one and fix it up, be careful -- the biggest problem > with these wasn't the players, but the records. Leave a few 45's in your > parked car for an hour and you'll see what I mean. > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > > "Pin Geek" wrote in message > news:X8OdnVD7X7377GnZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Hi all, >> A while back on Ebay I saw a flyer with Steve Allen on it for some kind >> of RCA 45 record changer for your car. I think there was just one model >> made and they scrapped it. Well, a buddy of mine wants one for a vintage >> car he is restoring. Do these exist anywhere? Any leads on one would be >> most greatly appreciated. I think dead or alive is acceptable. Are they >> hard to repair? >> >> Any leads, PLEASE email me at pingeek@pingeek.com >> >> Thanks, >> Josh >> http://www.pingeek.com >> Get your pinball show dvds here: >> http://www.thepinballshow.com >> >> >> > > Article: 340911 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:44:30 -0400 From: Stewart Schooley Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? References: <1156870217.270625.49740@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <2JWdnV4OWKdr4WnZnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@bright.net> Peter Wieck wrote: > Stewart Schooley wrote: > >>It's not about radios, but interesting from a technical standpoint. What >>interests me the most is how these guys are bringing attention to what >>they are doing and the claims they are making. >> >>Do a Google on steorn >> >>Stewart > > > Perpetual motion has been around since the dawn of time. Today it is > manifest more often as "cold fusion" or 100.005% efficient Sterling > Cycle engines. > > Any number of over-balance engines have been attempted, the theory was > even applied briefly to steam locomotives, and the pursuit of which is > believed by some to have led to the development of the Sterling-cycle > engines. > > This appears to be no different. With all due respect, we will next > start in on the theory that Big Oil will/has/is going to surpress any > such developments; that they are already in the can somewhere; that > cold-fusion exists at a practical level; and so forth. > > The problem with conspiracy theories is that perforce far too many > individuals must be 'in the know' for them to last any length of time > greater than 10 years less 1/2 the remaining period per additional > conspirator... two conspirators = 10 years, three = 5 years, four = 2.5 > years and forth. This formula is mine, BTW, and offered only as opinion > based on observation, not holy writ. And on an historical note, when > Big Oil and Big Rubber and Big Industry went after the streetcar and > inter-urban transport companies, they did it right up front without > pretense. "Who Framed Roger Rabbit" was built around some loosely > accurate historical events, exaggerated for effect, of course. > > But: as Stewart brought this in as a technology-related pointer, the > Sterling engine is extremely efficient after all. Maybe something will > come of this system as well. BTW, we also have air-lubricated zero-wear > bearings from the same efforts. > > Skippy: Go away. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Peter, I think it is a little too soon to speak of conspiracy theories if it is true that Steorn is actually seeking recognized scientific authorities to examine and report on their product and if it is true that Steorn will not solicit investments until after the report is made. If none of that is true then this will be one big hoax. Stewart Article: 340912 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: FS portables (Grundig / Philips, AIR,SW, AM, LW ..) Date: 29 Aug 2006 10:52:50 -0700 Message-ID: <1156873970.851195.220220@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <44f473c0@news.stben.net> Grundig1972YachtBoy210 wrote: 83.3% positive... YIKES!! That takes real work. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 340913 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Looking for a Trade Date: 29 Aug 2006 11:01:49 -0700 Message-ID: <1156874509.133650.97690@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1156515424.465254.269150@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Beloved Leader wrote: > graham wrote: > > .. the AR Amplifier/Universal, the model Peter is talking about, was made > > in the USA from 1969 to 1974 and is a totally different beast ... > > I recall them now. I don't believe I ever saw one. More than you want to know... http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://amp8.com/tr-amp/foreign/etc/jpeg/ar-40w-8&imgrefurl=http://amp8.com/tr-amp/foreign/etc/ar-50w.htm&h=762&w=980&sz=58&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=0jC76Rsp9uWHFM:&tbnh=116&tbnw=149&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAcoustic%2BResearch%2Bamp%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 340914 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:02:00 -0500 Message-ID: <21764-44F48118-768@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <2JWdnV4OWKdr4WnZnZ2dnUVZ_oGdnZ2d@bright.net> I first read about Steorn on August 22,2006.I know this because on that date,I emailed Steorn's website to myself. I am not saying Steorn's so-called free energy devices work or not.I would like to see them prove it one way or the other.Why dont they hang one of their devices in a window with a piece of string and crank it up/hook it up to a regular 100 watt incadescent light bulb and electric motor and let people over there stop by and look in the window and check it out? After all,Ford had a brighter idea.I am skeptical. cuhulin Article: 340915 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." Subject: Crackling Tuning Condenser Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:21:09 GMT I've got this nice Eico tuner on my bench and it has a very persistent problem. The AM tuning condenser was crackling quite loudly during tuning, so as I often do I gave it a spritz of contact cleaner (around the grounding wipers). To my surprise, this made the problem 10 times worse. Every time I move the dial, I get a roar of crackles. I've removed the condenser and checked it carefully for shorting plates (using an LED and battery), but can find none. At this point I can only make a guess; perhaps the contact cleaner actually made the particles of dust more conductive, and added to the problem. I'm going to try blowing it out with an air compressor and see if that helps, in the meantime any suggestions would be appreciated. -- To reply via Email, remove NOSPAM from the address Article: 340916 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 29 Aug 2006 11:28:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1156876090.454217.9330@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Stewart Schooley wrote: > I think it is a little too soon to speak of conspiracy theories if it is > true that Steorn is actually seeking recognized scientific authorities > to examine and report on their product and if it is true that Steorn > will not solicit investments until after the report is made. > > If none of that is true then this will be one big hoax. > > Stewart Stewart: A glance at history will show that most such groups were 'true-believers'. Stanly Pons and Martin Fleischman believed in their work, certainly. And sought validation, equally certainly. But you only have to read up on the water-into-gasoline hoaxes of the 50s and 60s, and to an extent, still around today: http://www.water-fuel-online.com/ I do not believe that Steorn is necessarily a hoax, that is deliberately perpetrated with malice. But I do not believe it to be true even for one single hummingbird heartbeat. So far, the various laws of thermodynamics have proven pretty immutable. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 340917 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1156870217.270625.49740@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 11:35:50 -0700 Message-ID: > Perpetual motion has been around since the dawn of time. I listened to one of their videos, a bunch of babble about how the key factor is validation of theory by the scientific community, not "mere engineering." Look at major inventions of the past. The utility (and credibility) was obvious to laymen. It didn't require a legion of academics to confirm that a steam engine was something new and useful. If this was for real, why wouldn't they take out a technology patent, then set up a demonstration at the nearest shopping mall? They could, say, power a big freezer for six months with no external energy source. Let anyone examine it, let experts come in and disassemble it, to prove it's not a fake. With patent in hand, they could instantly become mega-billionaires. Governments would line up to license the patent for a free, non-polluting energy source. Phooey. Phil Article: 340918 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: What's happened (RCA 3-BX-671)? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:52:49 -0500 I've kept a cursory eye on this model on eBay for the last several years. It's been a month or two since I last ran my custom search: "RCA Trans". IME it's rare to see these go for little more than $100...maybe as much as $175 for really nice ones (excluding the alligator 3-BX). At the moment three are available, one at $611 (12 bids, 4 hours to go), another at $365.61 (5 bids, but 6 days until closing). The one at $295 BIN is not nearly as nice, and has had only one expired offer. Admittedly, all the bidders are relatively inexperienced. Is that it, or has this radio suddenly appreciated by at several hundred percent? I ran a completed-items search but found no comparisons. Normally when I run a search I get more hits. Have they become 'rare' somehow (as at least one of the ads intimate)? jak Article: 340919 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gerryu21220@gmail.com" Subject: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Date: 29 Aug 2006 12:07:33 -0700 Message-ID: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Picked up a Zenith Console Stereo Sunday for a whopping $25. Model number is SF2580. About 5 feet long, Early American style maple cabinet, circa 1959. Has the V-M "Cobra-Matic" turntable. Weighs around 200 lbs. Everything works fine except for FM, which only works faintly when you first turn it on, then fades away. I'm guessing a bad capacitor. Where can I get a schematic? A Google search has turned up absolutely nothing at all - literally. Almost as if they didn't exist. Anyone know of a free or *affordable* source for a schematic for this monster? Anywho, I can't find any info at all on this one... Can't even find a Sam's Photofact on eBay for this one. Did they go by chassis number rather than model number??? Gerry Article: 340920 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:22:44 -0500 From: Bill Cohn Subject: Re: Looking for a Trade References: <1156515424.465254.269150@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156541336.097313.8010@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156545894.750441.280640@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156641140.579598.103450@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156871722.946253.301240@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156874509.133650.97690@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: This thing have driver transformers and Germanium outputs? Peter Wieck wrote: > Beloved Leader wrote: >> graham wrote: >>> .. the AR Amplifier/Universal, the model Peter is talking about, was made >>> in the USA from 1969 to 1974 and is a totally different beast ... >> I recall them now. I don't believe I ever saw one. > > More than you want to know... > > http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://amp8.com/tr-amp/foreign/etc/jpeg/ar-40w-8&imgrefurl=http://amp8.com/tr-amp/foreign/etc/ar-50w.htm&h=762&w=980&sz=58&hl=en&start=1&tbnid=0jC76Rsp9uWHFM:&tbnh=116&tbnw=149&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAcoustic%2BResearch%2Bamp%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DG > > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 340921 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 29 Aug 2006 12:23:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Is this a good value? What are some of the known issues with this model? Where might I find information about it on the internet? It isn't going to cost over 100.00 and I'm not disclosing where I can get it. Serious replies only. Pithy, pissed people please ponder--personally, persona pissed perpetually pro bono. Article: 340922 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:15:27 -0500 Message-ID: <13727-44F4924F-152@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: Many years ago,(ok,I know it's a nutty idea of mine) I read in a magazine (I think it was National Geographic magazine) about the Foucalt Pendulum in the Franklin Instutite in Philadelphia.That got me to thinking,why not different versions of the pendulum's,(bigggg heavy stuff) and hooked up somehow to spin generators? I dont see why it wouldn't work. www.devilfinder.com Franklin Institute Foucalt Pendulum I misspelled Foucalt on purpose because I like to see devilfinder.com say, What the Hell! cuhulin Article: 340923 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lee Subject: Re: RCA automobile 45 changer? Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:46:21 -0400 Message-ID: References: Pin Geek wrote: > Hi all, > A while back on Ebay I saw a flyer with Steve Allen on it for some kind of > RCA 45 record changer for your car. I think there was just one model made > and they scrapped it. Well, a buddy of mine wants one for a vintage car he > is restoring. Do these exist anywhere? Any leads on one would be most > greatly appreciated. I think dead or alive is acceptable. Are they hard to > repair? > > Any leads, PLEASE email me at pingeek@pingeek.com > > Thanks, > Josh Josh..... I see them occaisionly here in the Toronto area at flea markets, antique markets and the like. They did make on, and I put one in my 53 Roadmaster convertable. It wasn't a changer, but a single play unit and I believe it was called the RCA Ultra-Fi 45. Slide the 45 in, press the bar to lock and put the stylus to the record and music to go. They were really hard on the record though. Pressure had to be high to deal with the bumps of the road. There were two versions of the RCA, a single player aftermarket (I bought mine at Canadian Tire in 1958) and a large multi disc changer unit made specifically for Chrysler as a option. See: > http://ookworld.com/hiwayhifi.html also: > http://www.imperialclub.com/Yr/1960/RecordPlayer/index.htm Regards Lee Article: 340924 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Koste" Subject: Re: RCA automobile 45 changer? Date: 29 Aug 2006 12:47:27 -0700 Message-ID: <1156880846.932035.145390@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > > I'm not quite sure of the significance of "ARC", but I believe they were > > made by RCA, and for some dumb reason they didn't want to use the RCA name > > with it -- so they put the initials backwards. Gary: Hate to blow a hole in your theory, but RCA bacwards would be ACR, not ARC. Mike Koste Gobs of Knobs Ambler, PA Article: 340925 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44F49E3F.F445EE82@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Crackling Tuning Condenser References: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:06:55 GMT "Chris F." wrote: > > I've got this nice Eico tuner on my bench and it has a very persistent > problem. The AM tuning condenser was crackling quite loudly during tuning, > so as I often do I gave it a spritz of contact cleaner (around the grounding > wipers). To my surprise, this made the problem 10 times worse. Every time I > move the dial, I get a roar of crackles. I've removed the condenser and > checked it carefully for shorting plates (using an LED and battery), but can > find none. At this point I can only make a guess; perhaps the contact > cleaner actually made the particles of dust more conductive, and added to > the problem. I'm going to try blowing it out with an air compressor and see > if that helps, in the meantime any suggestions would be appreciated. First of all, be careful with the compressed air. You can bend the plates with too much pressure. Did you replace the lubricant? Did you clean and relube the bearings as well? You don't want to disassemble the unit, merely wash it out with solvent and relube with "Lubriplate" or "GC Contact Lube", if you can find it. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 340926 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:14:39 GMT "Steven" wrote in message news:1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > Is this a good value? Good value depends on the price, condition, and whether or not you will ever use it to your advantage. They are typically less that $30 complete in good working order with manual at Midwest radio meets. > What are some of the known issues with this > model? > Rust, bad meter, calibration, leads and clips broken off. > Where might I find information about it on the internet? You just did. > > It isn't going to cost over 100.00 and I'm not disclosing where I can > get it. > Let me guess. Your buddy travman100 still has two in his auctions. Both are listed at $10 each, but one has a $19 shipping price, the other has a $30 shipping price. And he'll let you buy on credit. > Serious replies only. Serious replies for serious questions of on-topic matters. > Pithy, pissed people please ponder--personally, > persona pissed perpetually pro bono. > Now you've gone too far. Fuck off Dinius! jim menning Article: 340927 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1156880846.932035.145390@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: RCA automobile 45 changer? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:20:35 GMT "Mike Koste" wrote in message news:1156880846.932035.145390@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > >> "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > >> > I'm not quite sure of the significance of "ARC", but I believe they were >> > made by RCA, and for some dumb reason they didn't want to use the RCA name >> > with it -- so they put the initials backwards. > > Gary: Hate to blow a hole in your theory, but RCA bacwards would be > ACR, not ARC. > They probably were dyslexic. ARC stands for Automatic Radio Corp. which I believe at that time was a subsidiary of RCA that made car radios. jim menning Article: 340928 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Message-ID: <4r1Jg.15$qb2.8@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:27:44 GMT wrote in message news:1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > Picked up a Zenith Console Stereo Sunday for a whopping $25. Model > number is SF2580. About 5 feet long, Early American style maple > cabinet, circa 1959. Has the V-M "Cobra-Matic" turntable. Weighs > around 200 lbs. Everything works fine except for FM, which only works > faintly when you first turn it on, then fades away. I'm guessing a bad > capacitor. > > Where can I get a schematic? A Google search has turned up absolutely > nothing at all - literally. Almost as if they didn't exist. Anyone > know of a free or *affordable* source for a schematic for this monster? > Anywho, I can't find any info at all on this one... Can't even find a > Sam's Photofact on eBay for this one. Did they go by chassis number > rather than model number??? > > Gerry > It's listed by model number on the Sam's site. Did you try there? It's in Sam's 453-15, available for only $22. http://www.samswebsite.com/photofact/pf_search.asp?MOD=sf2580&TYPE=LIKE jim menning Article: 340929 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:42:53 -0500 From: Bill Cohn Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Gerry The schematic is in SAMS 453 number 15. The Chassis is 7B31 for the amplifier and the Tuner/Preamp is 9B25. If the FM is fading away I suggest you try 6AU6A limiter as it is only used on the FM side of the receiver. Regards, Bill Cohn - N9MHT gerryu21220@gmail.com wrote: > Picked up a Zenith Console Stereo Sunday for a whopping $25. Model > number is SF2580. About 5 feet long, Early American style maple > cabinet, circa 1959. Has the V-M "Cobra-Matic" turntable. Weighs > around 200 lbs. Everything works fine except for FM, which only works > faintly when you first turn it on, then fades away. I'm guessing a bad > capacitor. > > Where can I get a schematic? A Google search has turned up absolutely > nothing at all - literally. Almost as if they didn't exist. Anyone > know of a free or *affordable* source for a schematic for this monster? > Anywho, I can't find any info at all on this one... Can't even find a > Sam's Photofact on eBay for this one. Did they go by chassis number > rather than model number??? > > Gerry > Article: 340930 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim Strickland" Subject: Re: Crackling Tuning Condenser Date: 29 Aug 2006 13:54:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1156884841.042258.95240@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> References: I've had this problem. The best solution I've found is to open the condenser all the way open and "floss" the plates with soft cotton string. Be gentle, they bend easily, and make sure your string is about the right diameter. -Jim Michael A. Terrell wrote: > "Chris F." wrote: > > > > I've got this nice Eico tuner on my bench and it has a very persistent > > problem. The AM tuning condenser was crackling quite loudly during tuning, > > so as I often do I gave it a spritz of contact cleaner (around the grounding > > wipers). To my surprise, this made the problem 10 times worse. Every time I > > move the dial, I get a roar of crackles. I've removed the condenser and > > checked it carefully for shorting plates (using an LED and battery), but can > > find none. At this point I can only make a guess; perhaps the contact > > cleaner actually made the particles of dust more conductive, and added to > > the problem. I'm going to try blowing it out with an air compressor and see > > if that helps, in the meantime any suggestions would be appreciated. > > > First of all, be careful with the compressed air. You can bend the > plates with too much pressure. > > Did you replace the lubricant? Did you clean and relube the bearings > as well? You don't want to disassemble the unit, merely wash it out > with solvent and relube with "Lubriplate" or "GC Contact Lube", if you > can find it. > > > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 340931 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Bozo" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 29 Aug 2006 14:00:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1156885253.582989.181800@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > Is this a good value? What are some of the known issues with this > model? > > Where might I find information about it on the internet? > > It isn't going to cost over 100.00 and I'm not disclosing where I can > get it. > > Serious replies only. Pithy, pissed people please ponder--personally, > persona pissed perpetually pro bono. Where does someone living off the government get the extra cash to make purchases like this? Article: 340932 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 29 Aug 2006 14:20:25 -0700 Message-ID: <1156886425.693009.309750@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Anti-Bozo wrote: > Steven wrote: > > Is this a good value? What are some of the known issues with this > > model? > > > > Where might I find information about it on the internet? > > > > It isn't going to cost over 100.00 and I'm not disclosing where I can > > get it. > > > > Serious replies only. Pithy, pissed people please ponder--personally, > > persona pissed perpetually pro bono. > > Where does someone living off the government get the extra cash to make > purchases like this? What have you got against the late, great Larry Harmon? Article: 340933 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 29 Aug 2006 14:22:35 -0700 Message-ID: <1156886555.437840.276200@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> jim menning wrote: > "Steven" wrote in message > news:1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > Is this a good value? > > Good value depends on the price, condition, and whether or not you will ever use it > to your advantage. They are typically less that $30 complete in good working order > with manual at Midwest radio meets. > > > What are some of the known issues with this > > model? > > > > Rust, bad meter, calibration, leads and clips broken off. > > > > Where might I find information about it on the internet? > > You just did. > > > > > It isn't going to cost over 100.00 and I'm not disclosing where I can > > get it. > > > > Let me guess. Your buddy travman100 still has two in his auctions. Both are listed > at $10 each, but one has a $19 shipping price, the other has a $30 shipping price. > And he'll let you buy on credit. Thank you. > > > Serious replies only. > > Serious replies for serious questions of on-topic matters. > > > > Pithy, pissed people please ponder--personally, > > persona pissed perpetually pro bono. > > > > Now you've gone too far. Fuck off Dinius! Cry rape then. I don't care, and the setup is more than obvious. Yawn, and thanks again. > > jim menning Article: 340934 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 29 Aug 2006 14:26:22 -0700 Message-ID: <1156886782.709471.297350@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > jim menning wrote: > > "Steven" wrote in message > > news:1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > > > Is this a good value? > > > > Good value depends on the price, condition, and whether or not you will ever use it > > to your advantage. They are typically less that $30 complete in good working order > > with manual at Midwest radio meets. > > > > > What are some of the known issues with this > > > model? > > > > > > > Rust, bad meter, calibration, leads and clips broken off. > > > > > > > Where might I find information about it on the internet? > > > > You just did. > > > > > > > > It isn't going to cost over 100.00 and I'm not disclosing where I can > > > get it. > > > > > > > Let me guess. Your buddy travman100 still has two in his auctions. Both are listed > > at $10 each, but one has a $19 shipping price, the other has a $30 shipping price. > > And he'll let you buy on credit. > > Thank you. > > > > > Serious replies only. > > > > Serious replies for serious questions of on-topic matters. > > > > > > > Pithy, pissed people please ponder--personally, > > > persona pissed perpetually pro bono. > > > > > > > Now you've gone too far. Fuck off Dinius! > > Cry rape then. I don't care, and the setup is more than obvious. Yawn, > and thanks again. PS If you come back over and over to be raped, is it rape anymore? Article: 340935 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 29 Aug 2006 14:34:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1156887284.216168.25120@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> jim menning wrote: > "Steven" wrote in message > news:1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > Is this a good value? > > Good value depends on the price, condition, and whether or not you will ever use it > to your advantage. They are typically less that $30 complete in good working order > with manual at Midwest radio meets. > > > What are some of the known issues with this > > model? > > > > Rust, bad meter, calibration, leads and clips broken off. > > > > Where might I find information about it on the internet? > > You just did. > > > > > It isn't going to cost over 100.00 and I'm not disclosing where I can > > get it. > > > > Let me guess. Your buddy travman100 still has two in his auctions. Both are listed > at $10 each, but one has a $19 shipping price, the other has a $30 shipping price. > And he'll let you buy on credit. No credit needed this week. > > > > Serious replies only. > > Serious replies for serious questions of on-topic matters. > > > > Pithy, pissed people please ponder--personally, > > persona pissed perpetually pro bono. That's a lot of alliteration for "you reap what you sow" ala Variety ("WALL ST. LAYS AN EGG") At least you answered nicely before blowing off into your tired tirade, Tyrone. TRAVESTY, TASTELESS TOO. TREY TRIPPY, THOUGHTLESS, THANKS. Article: 340936 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156885253.582989.181800@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 14:37:05 -0700 they work odd jobs for cash, or defraud the government by selling off food stamps etc, or they pan handle.... there are lots of ways, someone with time on there hands to make a couple of bucks for disposable income. "Anti-Bozo" wrote in message news:1156885253.582989.181800@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Steven wrote: >> Is this a good value? What are some of the known issues with this >> model? >> >> Where might I find information about it on the internet? >> >> It isn't going to cost over 100.00 and I'm not disclosing where I can >> get it. >> >> Serious replies only. Pithy, pissed people please ponder--personally, >> persona pissed perpetually pro bono. > > Where does someone living off the government get the extra cash to make > purchases like this? > Article: 340937 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:48:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <13727-44F4924F-152@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> In <13727-44F4924F-152@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> cuhulin@webtv.net writes: >Many years ago,(ok,I know it's a nutty idea of mine) I read in a >magazine (I think it was National Geographic magazine) about the Foucalt >Pendulum in the Franklin Instutite in Philadelphia.That got me to >thinking,why not different versions of the pendulum's,(bigggg heavy >stuff) and hooked up somehow to spin generators? I dont see why it >wouldn't work. Foucault pendulums are driven, you know. They don't just keep swinging back and forth forever on their own. The drive system is usually electromagnet, located up near the pivot. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340938 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 29 Aug 2006 15:04:32 -0700 Message-ID: <1156889071.984413.224350@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Bob in Phx wrote: > they work odd jobs for cash, or defraud the government by selling off food > stamps etc, or they pan handle.... there are lots of ways, someone with time > on there hands to make a couple of bucks for disposable income. > > Dinius work? I can't picture that. Sell something that gets him food? Not likely. Panhandling? Maybe but when can he fit that in with all the time he spends on Usenet. He's won $97 worth of stuff on eBay alone this month and that doesn't include shipping (some of it's bulky too). Article: 340939 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "philsvintageradios" Subject: Re: another TO question Date: 29 Aug 2006 15:19:42 -0700 Message-ID: <1156889981.967001.38950@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1156813021.273042.308290@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Thanks Phil, I think you nailed it. and it is nice to have the book. I guess someone must have disabled the switch, wouldn't a radio /phono switch usually make the radio go dead when switched to the phono position? anyway It isn't much of an issue, doubt if it will ever get plugged into a phono. I was wondering at first if it was used to switch between which antenna the set was using. . I wonder if both antennas ( or all 3 ?) were used at the same time? I will need to have a closer look to see how they are all hooked to the circut. I didn't realize it was supposed to have a portable wavemagnet, as well as the internal wavemagnet , and the extendable antennae until I saw the manual . I keep using it (on am and FM) and wondering which antenna it is recieving on. PHIL Phil Nelson wrote: > > above that there is a switch, it is a two position swith that slides. > > this is inside the case, not accessable without opening the back. > > Boy, you had me scratching my head for a while, there. I own a 1000, 3000-1, > and R7000-2, and never remember seeing anything like that. > > But apparently some 1000s came with a phono jack and radio/phono switch > inside the back as you describe. > > The operating guide at http://www.transoceanic.nostalgiaair.org/1000.htm > gives a picture and brief explanation. > > I peeked inside my 1000, and it has holes in the chassis where the slide > switch would go, but no phono jack or hole for one. > > I guess not all 1000s had this feature. A phono jack for a transistor > portable seems like kind of an odd feature. Perhaps it was an option. > > Anyhow . . . you learn something new every day! > > Phil Nelson > Phil's Old Radios > http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 340940 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156885253.582989.181800@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1156889071.984413.224350@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Message-ID: <2e3Jg.2036$AP2.1273@fed1read10> Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:30:16 -0700 hard luck stories to relatives, friends (used loosely) etc will sometimes gather in a bit of cash... my vote is for the foodstamp, defrauding scheme... Most often its in conjunction with a local business. The business give a percentage of the face value as cash...The un-educated hungry for cash recipients of food stamps and such go for this in a big way.... Of course, all of this is just my opinion and is not a slander to anyone..... "Anti-Dinius" wrote in message news:1156889071.984413.224350@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > Bob in Phx wrote: >> they work odd jobs for cash, or defraud the government by selling off >> food >> stamps etc, or they pan handle.... there are lots of ways, someone with >> time >> on there hands to make a couple of bucks for disposable income. >> >> > Dinius work? I can't picture that. Sell something that gets him food? > Not likely. Panhandling? Maybe but when can he fit that in with all > the time he spends on Usenet. > > He's won $97 worth of stuff on eBay alone this month and that doesn't > include shipping (some of it's bulky too). > Article: 340941 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:44:05 -0400 Message-ID: first clean the function switch good with Deoxit D5 spray. Work the switch good. Clean all the controls with Cailube or any other cleaner with a lubricant. Go around and rock all the tubes in their sockets You can do this with the set on low volume and see if any are particularly badly corroded, you'll hear the static. Sometimes this alone will clear up the symptoms you have. Mark Oppat wrote in message news:1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > Picked up a Zenith Console Stereo Sunday for a whopping $25. Model > number is SF2580. About 5 feet long, Early American style maple > cabinet, circa 1959. Has the V-M "Cobra-Matic" turntable. Weighs > around 200 lbs. Everything works fine except for FM, which only works > faintly when you first turn it on, then fades away. I'm guessing a bad > capacitor. > > Where can I get a schematic? A Google search has turned up absolutely > nothing at all - literally. Almost as if they didn't exist. Anyone > know of a free or *affordable* source for a schematic for this monster? > Anywho, I can't find any info at all on this one... Can't even find a > Sam's Photofact on eBay for this one. Did they go by chassis number > rather than model number??? > > Gerry > > Article: 340942 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <12f4fdeplitni7b@corp.supernews.com> <1156778379.734906.300870@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <2gEIg.69033$Nt2.67854@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <12f6n0lonmpaabd@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Reserve Shyness Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:56:31 -0400 Message-ID: John, sometimes ebay auctions (or any) are like a work in progress. The seller really wants X dollars because they paid that, or close to it. Sometimes they think its "worth" X dollars because they did a little research and saw another similar item go for that... mistaken as they may be about the dissimilarity that may be vital to the value. So, you bid your honest, "thats all I'll ever pay" price and see what happens. If it doesnt sell, sit tight and email the seller maybe a week later if they dont relist (or even if they do). Start a conversation, inquire the reserve, whatever. Be sure to mention your collecting interests and abilities. You might even email pix of some of your great work if they will allow it. Be sure to mention how the set in question fits into your collecting interest area and why. You will find some sellers will warm right up to your talents and knowledge and WANT to sell the radio to you so it gets "treated right". Sometimes this works, sometimes not. Give it a shot. Mark Oppat "Hagstar" wrote in message news:12f6n0lonmpaabd@corp.supernews.com... > > For me this is so visceral it's hard to explain. Take the 13 tube Wells > Gardner discussed elsewhere now on the block. I just can't be bothered to > bid because from previous experience with this seller I know the Reserve is > about what the item would sell for on a good day at a radio swap. I might > snipe it or bid the last day if someone else reveals the Reserve. But let me > ask you, Carter- why would anyone bother to bid? Well, unless you have a few > grand as a budget and are just dead set on *this* radio. Otherwise, you > place a bid but it doesn't meet Reserve so what does it mean? Not a whole > lot- you'll never win the auction unless you bid again. I was the high > bidder on a dozen auctions the last few months that didn't meet Reserve, > never got a idea of WHAT they had in mind for any of them. > > I don't really think the Reserve actually is a bad thing if it's really low > so people shoot past it quickly. When years ago I used them I based them on > what I have into the item if that would work, NEVER on what it "ought to be" > worth. I suppose for really nichey specialty items eddie is right though- if > you have only 3 or 4 folks in all of eBayland who might bid, 2 or 3 or them > could be away on vacation. > > John H. > > > Article: 340943 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pin Geek" References: Subject: Re: RCA automobile 45 changer? Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:00:18 -0400 Message-ID: Thanks! -- Josh http://www.pingeek.com Get your pinball show dvds here: http://www.thepinballshow.com "Lee" wrote in message news:ed25i9$gdp$1@registered.motzarella.org... > Pin Geek wrote: >> Hi all, >> A while back on Ebay I saw a flyer with Steve Allen on it for some kind >> of RCA 45 record changer for your car. I think there was just one model >> made and they scrapped it. Well, a buddy of mine wants one for a vintage >> car he is restoring. Do these exist anywhere? Any leads on one would be >> most greatly appreciated. I think dead or alive is acceptable. Are they >> hard to repair? >> >> Any leads, PLEASE email me at pingeek@pingeek.com >> >> Thanks, >> Josh > > Josh..... I see them occaisionly here in the Toronto area at flea markets, > antique markets and the like. They did make on, and I put one in my 53 > Roadmaster convertable. > It wasn't a changer, but a single play unit and I believe it was called > the RCA Ultra-Fi 45. > > Slide the 45 in, press the bar to lock and put the stylus to the record > and music to go. They were really hard on the record though. Pressure had > to be high to deal with the bumps of the road. > > There were two versions of the RCA, a single player aftermarket (I bought > mine at Canadian Tire in 1958) and a large multi disc changer unit made > specifically for Chrysler as a option. See: >> http://ookworld.com/hiwayhifi.html > > also: >> http://www.imperialclub.com/Yr/1960/RecordPlayer/index.htm > > > Regards > Lee > > Article: 340944 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." References: <44F49E3F.F445EE82@earthlink.net> <1156884841.042258.95240@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Crackling Tuning Condenser Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:09:15 GMT Funny thing is, the plates look perfectly clean. There are no dust particles large enough to make contact between any two plates. I'll take Michaels suggestion and try cleaning it with a solvent and relubing. I'm guessing alcohol is best for removing grease, correct me if I'm wrong. "Jim Strickland" wrote in message news:1156884841.042258.95240@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > I've had this problem. The best solution I've found is to open the > condenser all the way open and "floss" the plates with soft cotton > string. Be gentle, they bend easily, and make sure your string is > about the right diameter. > > -Jim > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> "Chris F." wrote: >> > >> > I've got this nice Eico tuner on my bench and it has a very >> > persistent >> > problem. The AM tuning condenser was crackling quite loudly during >> > tuning, >> > so as I often do I gave it a spritz of contact cleaner (around the >> > grounding >> > wipers). To my surprise, this made the problem 10 times worse. Every >> > time I >> > move the dial, I get a roar of crackles. I've removed the condenser and >> > checked it carefully for shorting plates (using an LED and battery), >> > but can >> > find none. At this point I can only make a guess; perhaps the contact >> > cleaner actually made the particles of dust more conductive, and added >> > to >> > the problem. I'm going to try blowing it out with an air compressor and >> > see >> > if that helps, in the meantime any suggestions would be appreciated. >> >> >> First of all, be careful with the compressed air. You can bend the >> plates with too much pressure. >> >> Did you replace the lubricant? Did you clean and relube the bearings >> as well? You don't want to disassemble the unit, merely wash it out >> with solvent and relube with "Lubriplate" or "GC Contact Lube", if you >> can find it. >> >> >> -- >> Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to >> prove it. >> Member of DAV #85. >> >> Michael A. Terrell >> Central Florida > Article: 340945 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:00:32 -0500 Message-ID: <10288-44F4C710-951@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: Well,I did say it is a nutty idea of mine.But sometimes nutty ideas pave the way to great inventions.I am not an engineer. cuhulin Article: 340946 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: pgonshor@aol.com Subject: Re: Transoceanic advice needed Date: 29 Aug 2006 16:14:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1156893241.504890.39430@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1156802583.262130.289240@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Here's the answer: a previous owner replaced the volume pot (thank goodness he used a tapped pot of the correct value with a DPST switch - that would be hard to replace). He/she miswired the installation and had no connection to the AGC circuit. AGC comes off one end of the volume pot. The radio has probably been this way for decades. Upon restoring the correct circuit, the radio works fine. Nonetheless, upon hearing of the great angst and fear coming from this group regarding the paper caps on this radio, I will replace paper caps as appropriate to ensure good operation. Thanks for all your help! Dave Article: 340947 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bonchakrs@aol.com Subject: Re: What's happened (RCA 3-BX-671)? Date: 29 Aug 2006 16:31:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1156894284.163355.159350@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: jakdedert wrote: > I've kept a cursory eye on this model on eBay for the last several > years. It's been a month or two since I last ran my custom search: "RCA > Trans". > > IME it's rare to see these go for little more than $100...maybe as much > as $175 for really nice ones (excluding the alligator 3-BX). At the > moment three are available, one at $611 (12 bids, 4 hours to go), > another at $365.61 (5 bids, but 6 days until closing). The one at $295 > BIN is not nearly as nice, and has had only one expired offer. > Admittedly, all the bidders are relatively inexperienced. Is that it, > or has this radio suddenly appreciated by at several hundred percent? I > ran a completed-items search but found no comparisons. Normally when I > run a search I get more hits. Have they become 'rare' somehow (as at > least one of the ads intimate)? > > jak JAK: Could not find the references you listed. Can you provide the item numbers? I have been trying to track them also. I have the companion 7-BX-10 in pristine condition with all original paper. Thanks. BOB Article: 340948 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <12f3g6dl76npdc8@news.supernews.com> <12f4ctn4a5vrjb0@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:36:48 -0500 Message-ID: >>yes, I am concerned about what will happen to my collection when >>I am no longer its' custodian. > > I'll take good care of it, I promise. > > Hey! Did you sign that little paper I sent ya? Nothing > important, no need to read it over... :) :) :) > > -- > Tim Mullen Didn't need to. I've already taken steps involving certain items in my collection. Just make sure I always have your current address. (And in the unlikely event you go first.....you know what I want..) Article: 340949 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <12f3g6dl76npdc8@news.supernews.com> <12f4ctn4a5vrjb0@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 18:38:49 -0500 Message-ID: Hell, a lot of weekends I'm not even in > bed by the time these auctions start. :) > > -- > Tim Mullen Whipersnapper! :-) ...oh for the day............................. Article: 340950 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "KB9NLK" Subject: Help on first Zenith 9-S-262 Restore - Dial Pointer? Springs? 6T5 Questions Date: 29 Aug 2006 16:43:48 -0700 Message-ID: <1156895028.393210.24220@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> I just received a beautiful (well I hope it will be....) 9-S-262. I am trying to figure out a few things that I have been searching for on this group and cannot find.... 1. The shutter dial moves fine, but I need the two springs for the shutter dial tension. Anyone know where I can find a replacement or if there is a substitute somewhere? 2. Removing the dial pointer??? I need to remove the dial pointer because the left side volume dial is crakced and seperated from the lug on the control shaft. It appears the only way to do it is to remove the main part of the dial used for fine tuning. I have looked and looked, and cannot seem to find out how to take it off and the last thing I was to do is destroy it. 3. 6T5 tube replacement? From what I have found, these are hard to find and expensive if you do find one. If I put a 6U5 or 6G5 in pace of it, will it work without modifications? I wasn't sure if the 6T5 was special. I would like to use 1629, but from what I have read, you have to change votage for it to work. Is there an adapter? This is my first Zenith and I am excited to get this thing rolling! Thanks for any tips ayone may be able to provide. Thanks, Ed KB9NLK Article: 340951 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 00:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <12f3g6dl76npdc8@news.supernews.com> <12f4ctn4a5vrjb0@corp.supernews.com> In "Bruce Mercer" writes: >Didn't need to. I've already taken steps involving certain items in my >collection. Just make sure I always have your current address. (And in the >unlikely event you go first.....you know what I want..) You got it! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340952 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: A Real Heart-Stopper Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 00:11:23 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1156646665.835812.157100@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> <12f3g6dl76npdc8@news.supernews.com> <12f4ctn4a5vrjb0@corp.supernews.com> In "Bruce Mercer" writes: >Whipersnapper! Nah, I'm getting more sedate in my old age. I was in bed by sunrise last weekend! :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340953 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mort Denison" References: <1156895028.393210.24220@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Help on first Zenith 9-S-262 Restore - Dial Pointer? Springs? 6T5 Questions Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 20:38:12 -0400 Message-ID: For springs, try Ace Hardware. They had some that might work here, but no longer stocked them. Or call Alan at www.gn4radios.com. The dial pointer is a friction fit. Try holding the cap stationary and gently move the pointer back and forth while pulling it off. Bill Turner has 1629 adapters at www.dialcover.com. Article: 340954 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Message-ID: <8a5Jg.3714$nR2.408@trnddc03> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 00:42:44 GMT This will probably spark some hot debate, but personally I think there will come a day when these console stereos become collectible. Probably a long, long time before there's any serious monetary value, but certainly in demand at least by some. The scenario is this: today most of them are so worthless that it's hard to give them away to Goodwill. Goodwill may even throw some away because they won't sell in the store, for even $5. Since nobody is collecting them, eventually most all of them will find their way to the scrap heap. Then one day -- somebody will look around and wonder whatever happened to them! There was a time, not that many years ago, that a stand-up Victrola was considered too commonplace to ever be of value. Morning-glory horns, yes -- but never a console. I can also continue with cars that were worthless a few years ago, and collectible now because of their rarity. Times have changed, and will change some more. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 340955 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Looking for a Trade Date: 29 Aug 2006 17:48:20 -0700 Message-ID: <1156898900.315274.283340@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1156515424.465254.269150@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Bill Cohn wrote: > This thing have driver transformers and Germanium outputs? All silicon, and they are interstage transformers. 2N3054 MP drivers, 2N3055 MP outputs. Rest are pretty standard stuff. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 340956 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Blacksmith Subject: Re: Help on first Zenith 9-S-262 Restore - Dial Pointer? Springs? 6T5 Questions Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:03:58 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1156895028.393210.24220@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> On 29 Aug 2006 16:43:48 -0700, "KB9NLK" wrote: >I just received a beautiful (well I hope it will be....) 9-S-262. I am >trying to figure out a few things that I have been searching for on >this group and cannot find.... > >1. The shutter dial moves fine, but I need the two springs for the >shutter dial tension. Anyone know where I can find a replacement or if >there is a substitute somewhere? Hardware store > >2. Removing the dial pointer??? I need to remove the dial pointer >because the left side volume dial is crakced and seperated from the lug >on the control shaft. It appears the only way to do it is to remove the >main part of the dial used for fine tuning. Pull it off. First get a drop of WD40 on a toothpick or something and put it on the back of the pointer. If the back of the pointer is split, (don't remember if the outer pointer is split, but the inner one is.) stick a screw driver in the slot and twist it to spread the halves as you pull. It should come off then. > >I have looked and looked, and cannot seem to find out how to take it >off and the last thing I was to do is destroy it. > >3. 6T5 tube replacement? From what I have found, these are hard to find >and expensive if you do find one. If I put a 6U5 or 6G5 in pace of it, >will it work without modifications? I wasn't sure if the 6T5 was >special. I would like to use 1629, but from what I have read, you have >to change votage for it to work. Is there an adapter? You won't find a good 6T5 worth buying unless you pay over a hundred. 6U5 works well. > >This is my first Zenith and I am excited to get this thing rolling! >Thanks for any tips ayone may be able to provide. > >Thanks, > >Ed > >KB9NLK Blacksmith wwwdotrenovatedradiosdotcom Article: 340957 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 01:28:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <8a5Jg.3714$nR2.408@trnddc03> In <8a5Jg.3714$nR2.408@trnddc03> "Gary Tayman" writes: >This will probably spark some hot debate, but personally I think there will >come a day when these console stereos become collectible. Probably a long, >long time before there's any serious monetary value, but certainly in demand >at least by some. Different strokes, and all that. Most of us can't imagine something like a boombox, iPod, or cellphone being collected, but you know they will be. >The scenario is this: today most of them are so worthless that it's hard to >give them away to Goodwill. Goodwill may even throw some away because they >won't sell in the store, for even $5. Since nobody is collecting them, >eventually most all of them will find their way to the scrap heap. Then one >day -- somebody will look around and wonder whatever happened to them! It's bound to happen, but to what *extent* it happens is tied to production numbers. I've heard stories of pre-war televisions being chopped up like firewood back in the 70's, much like the maligned stereo consoles of today. However, in the case of pre-wars so very few of them were made in the first place that destruction of even a small number had a large impact. Many more stereo consoles will have to be kindled before they become "rare". >There was a time, not that many years ago, that a stand-up Victrola was >considered too commonplace to ever be of value. Morning-glory horns, yes -- >but never a console. I can also continue with cars that were worthless a >few years ago, and collectible now because of their rarity. Times have >changed, and will change some more. Victrolas are a good example. Nearly everyone had one, if not that then a table-top. If you couldn't play piano or sing, it was the only entertainment one had! So even after a hundred years, and many decades of suffering various fates, there's still lots and lots of Victrolas around. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 340958 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gerryu21220@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Date: 29 Aug 2006 18:48:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1156902501.810553.137940@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> jim menning wrote: > It's listed by model number on the Sam's site. Did you try there? It's in Sam's > 453-15, available for only $22. > > http://www.samswebsite.com/photofact/pf_search.asp?MOD=sf2580&TYPE=LIKE > > jim menning Thanks - but - Yikes!! ONLY $22!?!?. Isn't there any source for just a photocopy? Article: 340959 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "alveena" Subject: earn money pay per click Date: 29 Aug 2006 18:50:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1156902613.555088.289230@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> earn money , click on advertisement on www.kafeelahmad.com and also purchase the gems and rudraksh. contact at alveenakafeel@indiatimes.com Article: 340960 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <10288-44F4C710-951@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 01:55:24 GMT Throughout history there have been attempts at trying to build some form of perpetual motion, and throughout history there has been a certain "law" of physics that seems to have won out every time. However, Although I am not an engineer either, there is a certain phenomenon that has piqued my interest for a long time, and makes me believe that someday a fuel-less motor can indeed be built. The phenomenon is this: a simple electric motor runs on magnetism, and many of them use permanent magnets in their design. If ALL the magnetism were permanent, the motor would never run -- not because there is a lack of magnetic energy -- there's plenty of it -- but because we currently have no way to switch it on and off, or reverse polarity. Such a motor would move a partial turn to align the poles, and then stay there. We need electrical energy to drive the motor, not because the permanent magnet doesn't have the same energy, but because the magnet's field needs to be manipulated. However imagine if a permanent magnet could be made with a grid, like a tube. A miniscule voltage on the grid could shut off the magnetism of some poles while turning on others, and the motor would rotate. Control the grids with brushes and a commutator and there you are -- a motor that runs entirely on its own permanent magnetism. Would such a motor violate the laws of physics? No, it is indeed still using energy. However instead of deriving it from batteries or fuel, this energy comes from the ambient heat around us. Molecules consist of electrons spinning furiously around protons and neutrons; a magnet is simply a material whose electrons are spinning in the same direction, creating the field. Therein is the energy. This energy is already being used to hold your shopping list to the refrigerator door; it has yet to be used to spin a motor by itself. But the energy source is indeed there; we just need to invent a means of harnessing it (aside from a nuclear reactor). Make sense? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 340961 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "DumpsterDiver" Subject: Re: Filament Polarity for Antique Triodes? Date: 29 Aug 2006 18:59:06 -0700 Message-ID: <1156903146.872510.89050@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1156610929.182446.177340@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Follow-Up: First off, thanks to all for the responses. After reading all of them, I decided to go ahead and risk wiring all 3 tube sockets exactly backwards ... A+ and A - reversed from the markings on the terminals. I did this in order to preserve as much of the original 1920's bus bar wiring as possible and for best appearance. The radio worked just fine when I hooked it up, so I can only conclude that, if filament polarity has any effect at all, it must be quite minor. BTW: None of the old tube data sheets I have seen indicate a preference for which filament pin should be + and which -, so I suspect it must have been - as a couple of folks have suggested - just an arbitrary convention to help early set builders keep their grid circuit anchor points consistent. Thanks again, DD Article: 340962 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gerryu21220@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Date: 29 Aug 2006 19:06:38 -0700 Message-ID: <1156903598.794576.254660@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Bill Cohn wrote: > If the FM is fading away I suggest you try 6AU6A limiter as it is only > used on the FM side of the receiver. Hmm. I thought it had two 6AU6 tubes, but I might be confusing them with another "6"... Not sure I have a 6AU6A. That may have been the one tube I didn't have a replacement for. (Man, that thing certainly has a LOT of tubes, and that's just the tuner!) Tried playing it again tonight, and it seems to very faintly pick up one station. Adding an external antenna didn't help. Ironically, AM is picking up stations in Washington, D.C., and I live in Baltimore! No external antenna needed. Too bad there isn't anything worth listening to on AM - just talk, gospel or latin. Anyway, thanks for the tip. I'll dig around through my tubes again tomorrow night, and hopefully I find one and that solves the problem. Article: 340963 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: RCA automobile 45 changer? Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:16:39 -0400 Message-ID: <12f9t8at15pe7dc@news.supernews.com> References: "Pin Geek" wrote in message news:W-CdnWsUUo_45WnZnZ2dnUVZ_rednZ2d@comcast.com... > Thanks. I'll keep my eyes out on Ebay. Yeah, that's the one the guy was > raving about. But I mentioned the same thing about warped records and he > was like, oh no, they are enclosed so they will be fine. Not true. Still > though, a nice novelty if you keep the car in your garage. I wouldn't > mind owning one myself, if I had a vintage car to install it in;) > > This reminds me of a time when I hit a yard sale years back, and the guy > had a pile of 78 records on a table, half in the sun, half out. They were > melting like candles, melting over the edge of the table. I wish I'd > snapped a pic of it. Weird stuff. > > -- > Josh > http://www.pingeek.com > Get your pinball show dvds here: > http://www.thepinballshow.com If it's actually used in a car, you should also be on the lookout for the matching spring reverb unit. Nothing like driving around listening to music played with various sizes of explosions mixed in with it, depending on the smoothness of the road. Ahh, THOSE were the days... Article: 340964 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gerryu21220@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Date: 29 Aug 2006 19:25:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1156904753.148080.172550@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Mark Oppat wrote: > first clean the function switch good with Deoxit D5 spray. Work the switch > good. Clean all the controls with Cailube or any other cleaner with a > lubricant. Well, I had to restring the tuner knob, so I sprayed all the pots while I had the tuner pulled out. I sprayed into all of them, even though none of them seemed staticy. Also swapped out all the tubes I had replacements for, in case that might be it. Cleaned the dial glass too while it was all dismantled. Need to get light bulbs for it when I get a chance. Hopefully the hardware store has them... > Go around and rock all the tubes in their sockets You can do this with the > set on low volume and see if any are particularly badly corroded, you'll > hear the static. > > Sometimes this alone will clear up the symptoms you have. I couldn't do that with the unit turned on, as it was all disconnected. And I'm not too keen on sticking my hand in that tight space where I can't really see, especially with it turned on! Several tubes are hidden from view. As I said, I did pull all the tubes out, and there was only one I didn't have a replacement for. Didn't seem to make a difference - of course, it's probably the ONE tube I didn't have! Tomorrow I'll try Bill's suggestion of putting in a 6AU6A - if I have one! Thanks. Article: 340965 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniel Russell" Subject: Emerson with no volume Date: 29 Aug 2006 19:40:56 -0700 Message-ID: <1156905656.095457.300790@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Ok.... I just want to say thanks to all who have helped me with my volume issue. It has been a long couple months but i now have volume control. she is almost done. thanks again Dan Article: 340966 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1156813021.273042.308290@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156889981.967001.38950@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: another TO question Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 19:41:35 -0700 Message-ID: > I didn't realize it was supposed to have a portable > wavemagnet, as well as the internal wavemagnet , and the extendable > antennae until I saw the manual. Forget the portable wavemagnet -- it was a gimmicky idea at best, designed to stick on the window of a train, plane, or ocean liner where the steel housing prevents normal reception. Under normal circumstances, extending the telescoping antenna should work just fine. Depending on what you're listening to, that may not even be necessary. Note that the antenna/handle on these sets is fragile. Always carry the radio from the bottom, not by the handle. Some people pack the inside of the handle with epoxy putty to strengthen it. I find it easier not to break it in the first place. Regards, Phil Nelson Phil's Old Radios http://antiqueradio.org/index.html Article: 340967 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniel Russell" Subject: Speaker with torn cone Date: 29 Aug 2006 19:47:14 -0700 Message-ID: <1156906034.411946.312510@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Hi group, have a speaker that needs love, it is in my Emerson. it works good but looks like hell and could sound better... also need a source of good decails for emerson and philco. if anyone has any info it would be appreciated, Thanks Dan Article: 340968 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "cmdr buzz corey" Subject: Re: 51 inch Diameter Woofer on Mythbusters TV Show Date: 29 Aug 2006 19:54:31 -0700 Message-ID: <1156906471.277994.34160@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Lyndell Scott wrote: > My next door neighbor is a 21 year old living with his dad. He has a friend > who comes over sometimes that has one of these systems. I feel it more than > hear it and it is disruptive to my nervous system in a way I can't explain. > For me, scrapping one's nails on a blackboard is soothing compared to that > experience. I wonder what its doing to the nervous system of the young men > and women who listen to these systems, much less what its doing to their > ears. > The other night I put on a blank tape, turned the volumn on the sound system to max and drove the mime next door nuts. Article: 340969 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1156895028.393210.24220@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Help on first Zenith 9-S-262 Restore - Dial Pointer? Springs? 6T5 Questions Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:02:02 -0400 Message-ID: there is a 1 meg resistor in the socket of the eye tube. It is nearly always bad. Carefully pull the socket wafer out with needlenose pliers. Note how the resistor is installed, and copy it. It goes from pins 2 to 4. Note which those are, as you are used to looking at a tube base not the socket end for pin numbers! Mark Oppat "KB9NLK" wrote in message news:1156895028.393210.24220@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > I just received a beautiful (well I hope it will be....) 9-S-262. I am > trying to figure out a few things that I have been searching for on > this group and cannot find.... > > 1. The shutter dial moves fine, but I need the two springs for the > shutter dial tension. Anyone know where I can find a replacement or if > there is a substitute somewhere? > > 2. Removing the dial pointer??? I need to remove the dial pointer > because the left side volume dial is crakced and seperated from the lug > on the control shaft. It appears the only way to do it is to remove the > main part of the dial used for fine tuning. > > I have looked and looked, and cannot seem to find out how to take it > off and the last thing I was to do is destroy it. > > 3. 6T5 tube replacement? From what I have found, these are hard to find > and expensive if you do find one. If I put a 6U5 or 6G5 in pace of it, > will it work without modifications? I wasn't sure if the 6T5 was > special. I would like to use 1629, but from what I have read, you have > to change votage for it to work. Is there an adapter? > > This is my first Zenith and I am excited to get this thing rolling! > Thanks for any tips ayone may be able to provide. > > Thanks, > > Ed > > KB9NLK > > Article: 340970 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 21:51:15 -0500 Message-ID: <13726-44F4FD23-871@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: I have another idea I have had for many years.Sometimes I doodle around/sketch it out on the backs of envelopes.Except for a heavy flywheel and a sprag/ratchet clutch,I probally have most of the junk I would need here to rig something up.It doesn't pertain to magnet morors. cuhulin Article: 340971 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <8a5Jg.3714$nR2.408@trnddc03> Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:07:16 -0400 Message-ID: "Tim Mullen" wrote >>>So even after a hundred years, and many decades > of suffering various fates, there's still lots and lots of Victrolas > around. Right, and the floor models go for very little in "as is" condition. A fully restored and working great version will go for decent money, however. I doubt 60's-70's wide body stereo consoles will ever go for much unless in mint condition and restored. There will be very little collector activity in these... because, they take up a LOT of space! Mark Oppat Article: 340972 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gerryu21220@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Date: 29 Aug 2006 20:07:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1156907244.346571.139700@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Gary Tayman wrote: > This will probably spark some hot debate, but personally I think there will > come a day when these console stereos become collectible. Probably a long, > long time before there's any serious monetary value, but certainly in demand > at least by some. > > The scenario is this: today most of them are so worthless that it's hard to > give them away to Goodwill. Goodwill may even throw some away because they > won't sell in the store, for even $5. Since nobody is collecting them, > eventually most all of them will find their way to the scrap heap. Then one > day -- somebody will look around and wonder whatever happened to them! Actually, I only bought it for the Cobra-Matic turntable. I was planning to part it out, salvaging as much as I could, maybe convert it to a component system, reusing the wood. However - the bugger fooled me! I tried it out at the flea market, and none of the electronics seemed to be functioning - only the turntable. When I got it home, I tried it again, and suddenly it came to life (except the FM section of the radio). Got to really look it over, and turns out this was a really nice console, made of solid hardwood and maple veneers. Not one ounce of particle board or wood-grained vinyl. Real furniture - real quality. Even had the original owner's manual tucked inside, and turns out this was the top of the line Zenith console of the day. So - now I think I'll keep it, and refinish the maple cabinet. It matches my existing Ethan Allen Early American furniture from the same period. The top was badly abused, but I think I can resurrect it. I may use it in place of my TV stand. (No where else to put it!) The 40-watt (20 per channel?) amplifier looks a LOT like a Magnavox - which seem to be highly collectable on eBay. Magnavox stereo tube amplifiers and the whole consoles seem to sell extremely well there. Not having owned a Magnavox, I can't say why they seem so popular, but they go for a pretty penny, while other brands don't even get one bid. So - it would seem that at least SOME are being collected. Article: 340973 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <44F49E3F.F445EE82@earthlink.net> <1156884841.042258.95240@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Crackling Tuning Condenser Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:13:50 -0400 Message-ID: I've had this problem many times. Microscopic metalic particles in there. You gotta unhook the cap and attach 400v B+ to it, and burn the stuff out. Put about 10K 2watt resistor in line with it too, to limit the current from your power supply. Work it back and forth while doing it. Works EVERY time! Mark Oppat "Chris F." wrote in message news:vO3Jg.5870$9u.66228@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... > Funny thing is, the plates look perfectly clean. There are no dust particles > large enough to make contact between any two plates. I'll take Michaels > suggestion and try cleaning it with a solvent and relubing. I'm guessing > alcohol is best for removing grease, correct me if I'm wrong. > > "Jim Strickland" wrote in message > news:1156884841.042258.95240@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > > I've had this problem. The best solution I've found is to open the > > condenser all the way open and "floss" the plates with soft cotton > > string. Be gentle, they bend easily, and make sure your string is > > about the right diameter. > > > > -Jim > > > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > >> "Chris F." wrote: > >> > > >> > I've got this nice Eico tuner on my bench and it has a very > >> > persistent > >> > problem. The AM tuning condenser was crackling quite loudly during > >> > tuning, > >> > so as I often do I gave it a spritz of contact cleaner (around the > >> > grounding > >> > wipers). To my surprise, this made the problem 10 times worse. Every > >> > time I > >> > move the dial, I get a roar of crackles. I've removed the condenser and > >> > checked it carefully for shorting plates (using an LED and battery), > >> > but can > >> > find none. At this point I can only make a guess; perhaps the contact > >> > cleaner actually made the particles of dust more conductive, and added > >> > to > >> > the problem. I'm going to try blowing it out with an air compressor and > >> > see > >> > if that helps, in the meantime any suggestions would be appreciated. > >> > >> > >> First of all, be careful with the compressed air. You can bend the > >> plates with too much pressure. > >> > >> Did you replace the lubricant? Did you clean and relube the bearings > >> as well? You don't want to disassemble the unit, merely wash it out > >> with solvent and relube with "Lubriplate" or "GC Contact Lube", if you > >> can find it. > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > >> prove it. > >> Member of DAV #85. > >> > >> Michael A. Terrell > >> Central Florida > > > > > Article: 340974 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <10288-44F4C710-951@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:26:42 -0400 Message-ID: <1KqdnVtAzsYZmWjZnZ2dnUVZ_tSdnZ2d@comcast.com> No, this makes no sense either. For one, you have to consider the energy used to make the magnets. Also, there is a great limit to any permanent magnet. Mag Lev trains for instance, use electromagnets I think. Also, that makes them switchable. This takes energy. I am in favor of electric cars, they have possibilities. But, those who tout them as "pollution free" ignore the pollution created by the generation of electricity to charge the batteries. It might be a lot less than a gas or diesel engine makes, but its still there. Mark Oppat "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:ge6Jg.3227$N84.2745@trnddc08... > Throughout history there have been attempts at trying to build some form of > perpetual motion, and throughout history there has been a certain "law" of > physics that seems to have won out every time. > > However, > > Although I am not an engineer either, there is a certain phenomenon that has > piqued my interest for a long time, and makes me believe that someday a > fuel-less motor can indeed be built. The phenomenon is this: a simple > electric motor runs on magnetism, and many of them use permanent magnets in > their design. If ALL the magnetism were permanent, the motor would never > run -- not because there is a lack of magnetic energy -- there's plenty of > it -- but because we currently have no way to switch it on and off, or > reverse polarity. Such a motor would move a partial turn to align the > poles, and then stay there. We need electrical energy to drive the motor, > not because the permanent magnet doesn't have the same energy, but because > the magnet's field needs to be manipulated. > > However imagine if a permanent magnet could be made with a grid, like a > tube. A miniscule voltage on the grid could shut off the magnetism of some > poles while turning on others, and the motor would rotate. Control the > grids with brushes and a commutator and there you are -- a motor that runs > entirely on its own permanent magnetism. > > Would such a motor violate the laws of physics? No, it is indeed still > using energy. However instead of deriving it from batteries or fuel, this > energy comes from the ambient heat around us. Molecules consist of > electrons spinning furiously around protons and neutrons; a magnet is simply > a material whose electrons are spinning in the same direction, creating the > field. Therein is the energy. This energy is already being used to hold > your shopping list to the refrigerator door; it has yet to be used to spin a > motor by itself. But the energy source is indeed there; we just need to > invent a means of harnessing it (aside from a nuclear reactor). > > Make sense? > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > Article: 340975 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Dan Schwartzman Subject: Looking for help with American Bosch 595 console Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 03:36:24 GMT Hello all- It may be a long shot, but I was wondering if anyone has any paperwork other than Rider's for an American Bosch 595 console set, in particular a dial string diagram. This is a beatiful high end set with variable IF tuning and a complicated dial with a kind of spinning lens holder which when aligned properly shows a different color behind a little opening in a disc for each band being tuned. The set has a fancy RF head which must be dissassembled for cleaning and repair, involving removing the main bandswitch shaft. I needed to repair an open coil on mine and to clean the bandswitch, but alas, the dial stringing came apart and it isn't as easy as I thought it would be to reassemble. I may have a chance to look at a friend's chassis for comparison, but if anyone has the original literature, I would be glad to purchase a copy. The Rider's pages only show the schematic and alignment instructions. This set is identical electronically to the Westinghouse WR-306, but don't know if the dial is as intricate to string. If anyone has any kind of paperwork from Westinghouse or Bosch, from 1937, I would sure be grateful. Regards to all from Easton, Pa Dan Schwartzman KB3MXP "Radiodoctordan" Article: 340976 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "L." References: <1156902613.555088.289230@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: earn money pay per click Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:47:58 -0400 Message-ID: <44f50a72$0$10194$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "alveena" wrote in message news:1156902613.555088.289230@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > earn money , click on advertisement on www.kafeelahmad.com and also > purchase the gems and rudraksh. contact at alveenakafeel@indiatimes.com > SUCKER!!!!!!!!!!! Article: 340977 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? From: spiced-ham?No@big.isp (Alphonso M'buto Chaing) References: <1156870217.270625.49740@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 22:48:14 -0500 In article , philnelson@nospam.xyz says... ... >They could, say, power a big freezer for six months with no external energy >source. Let anyone examine it, let experts come in and disassemble it, to >prove it's not a fake. > >With patent in hand, they could instantly become mega-billionaires. >Governments would line up to license the patent for a free, non-polluting >energy source. > >Phooey. > >Phil > > They'd have to be careful in wording their claims, the patent office refuses to look at perpetual motion machines. What if the energy source is not immediately apparent? Show a crystal set to the average person, and ask them where the power comes from to make it work. Article: 340978 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156885253.582989.181800@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 04:16:10 GMT Anti-Bozo wrote: > Where does someone living off the government get the extra cash to make > purchases like this? Simple, he probably makes $300-400 a day just walking around telling people, "If you give me a dollar, I'll go somewhere else." Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 340979 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:12:16 -0500 Message-ID: <21764-44F51020-858@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: I have a Popular Science magazine here which dates back to the 1950's or 1960's.There is an article in the magazine about certain kind of trees that grow in Brazil and they tap the trees for diesel fuel and other thingys. www.devilfinder.com The diesel fuel trees in Brazil So,just plant some diesel fuel trees and when they get big enough,buy a car that has a diesel engine. cuhulin Article: 340980 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156885253.582989.181800@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 04:26:13 GMT "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:ei8Jg.4654$Cs3.1569@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > Anti-Bozo wrote: >> Where does someone living off the government get the extra cash to make >> purchases like this? > > Simple, he probably makes $300-400 a day just walking around telling > people, "If you give me a dollar, I'll go somewhere else." > > Jeff > Maybe we should pass the hat around here. jim menning Article: 340981 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "KB9NLK" Subject: Re: Help on first Zenith 9-S-262 Restore - Dial Pointer? Springs? 6T5 Questions Date: 29 Aug 2006 21:28:35 -0700 Message-ID: <1156912115.237001.83500@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1156895028.393210.24220@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Sounds good guys! I appreciate all the great info you have posted for me to get started on this project. I tested the 6T5 on another radio and it worked nice and bright, so I am guessing the resistor in the socket is bad.... When I turn on the radio the 6T5 and another 6E5 I had lying around glows in the center of the tube, but no green (phosphate) color at all.... Mark, I will probably be ordering the volume dial if you still provide these.... Mine is cracked around the center where it attaches to the lug on the volume shaft. Thanks again to everyone! Ed KB9NLK Article: 340982 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? References: <10288-44F4C710-951@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <2y8Jg.20042$YC3.15835@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 04:33:02 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > However, > > Although I am not an engineer either, there is a certain phenomenon that has > piqued my interest for a long time, and makes me believe that someday a > fuel-less motor can indeed be built. You've been following the Bearden MEG project haven't you? Here's a bit of corespondance between Tom and Sean (of Steorn) http://www.cheniere.org/correspondence/082606.htm Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 340983 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chip" Subject: 6U5-6G5 for sale Date: 29 Aug 2006 22:03:14 -0700 Message-ID: <1156914194.472231.105420@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Hello, I'm new to this group, I am a antique radio hobbiest, I have been clearing out some of my junkbox, and decided to thin out my tube collection, I have 5 tuining eye 6U5 tubes for sale, they are in good shape, one tested over 90%, and the other 4 over 80%. Will sell all 5 for $40. Regards Chip Fuller Article: 340984 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: 6U5-6G5 for sale Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:12:10 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1156914194.472231.105420@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> -- Say no to institutionalized interference. Just say NO to HD/IBOC! "Chip" wrote in message news:1156914194.472231.105420@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Hello, I'm new to this group, I am a antique radio hobbiest, I have > been clearing out some of my junkbox, and decided to thin out my tube > collection, I have 5 tuining eye 6U5 tubes for sale, they are in good > shape, one tested over 90%, and the other 4 over 80%. Will sell all 5 > for $40. > Regards Chip Fuller > Whoever buys these, I could use one.. (mebbe two). Article: 340985 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 00:22:06 -0500 Message-ID: <21764-44F5207E-864@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <2y8Jg.20042$YC3.15835@tornado.socal.rr.com> Mother Nature gave us Magnetism.Many things we take for granted works via Magnetism.It is up to us Earthlings to find a way to develop (if it is possible) practicable Magnetic Motors. Does that make any sense? cuhulin Article: 340986 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RapidRonnie" Subject: Re: FA: 1964 GE P990-A 'WORLD MONITOR' SHORT WAVE RADIO MULTI BAND Date: 29 Aug 2006 23:00:37 -0700 Message-ID: <1156917637.783095.98770@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> References: <1156801120.672205.242310@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> jtoth624@gmail.com wrote: > For auction is a nice vintage working 1964 GE P990-A "World Monitor" > multi-band radio. The only issue with it is the FM antenna "retaining > clip" issue that plagues many of these units but is in nice shape all > around. Both antennas are perfect with no kinks or crimps and all > features, bands and controls work fine. Have a look, it's a nice radio! > > http://tinyurl.com/rx99u OLD 1964 GE 'WORLD MONITOR' SHORT WAVE RADIO MULTI BAND Item number: 220021515162 Bidder or seller of this item? Sign in for your status Watch this item in My eBay | Email to a friend View larger picture Current bid: US $19.99 End time: Sep-02-06 20:10:29 PDT (3 days 21 hours) Shipping costs: US $14.99 US Postal Service Priority Mail=AE Ships to: United States Item location: West Warwick, RI, United States History: 1 bid High bidder: gjm1201( 41Feedback score is 10 to 49) You can also: Watch this item Get alerts via Text message, IM or Phone call Sell one like this Listing and payment details: HideShow Starting time: Aug-26-06 20:10:29 PDT Starting bid: US $19.99 Duration: 7-day listing Payment methods: PayPal (preferred), Money order/Cashiers check See details Meet the seller Seller: cptjt( 74Feedback score is 50 to 99) Feedback: 100% Positive Member: since Nov-27-05 in United States Read feedback comments Ask seller a question Add to Favorite Sellers View seller's other items: Store | List Visit seller's Store: Member has an eBay StoreJ and E Goods Buy safely 1=2E Check the seller's reputation Score: 74 | 100% Positive Read feedback comments 2=2E Learn how you are protected PayPal. Privacy is Built In. Free PayPal Buyer Protection. See eligibility Returns: Seller accepts returns. 7 Days Money Back Description (revised) Item Specifics - Item Condition Condition: Used J and E Goods Visit my eBay Store: J and E Goods VINTAGE 1964 GE 'WORLD MONITOR' SHORT WAVE RADIO MULTI BAND Description: This is a 1964 General Electric (GE) "World Monitor, All Wave, 17 Transistor," Radio. The radio is complete and includes a "GE Shortwave Listener Log," manual detailing radio and band operation. The manual is included in a pouch on the back. The pouch unsnaps and folds down for battery access. It requires 6 "D" Cells or can be run with a 9VDC adapter (this was how I tested it). On the front are a stacked on\volume and tone knobs, stacked tuning and fine tuning knobs, a 5 position rotary band selector (FM, SW1, SW2, BC, and LW), an AFC/FM switch and a dial light button. The band indicator and the tuning needle work fine and the light also works. On the back is also a terminal block for FM and SW external antennas, an earphone jack and the DC power in. The dual antennas are intact - the SW is tight and the FM telescopes fine and has a swivel position once it is fully extended however there is a spring loaded assemblty in its mounting base that has a loose clip. The clip is inside the radio but not installed properly (will be apparent if seen), it doesn't seem too difficult to fix the issue. both antennas are in perfect condition and connected properly for operation of the radio. They have no kinks, bends or over-extended joints. Measured from the unit on the ground, the FM antenna extends approx. 3 feet, and the S.W. antenna approx. 6 feet. The case is a two-tone brown/tan leather with a black leather handle and strap rings (no strap included) and is in good condition. The leather is bit brittle but the snaps still work and there are no tears or gouges in it. Under the pouch flap there is one crack in the leather where on of the snap bases sits. The tuner works well and the controls work but are a bit scratchy and could use a good cleaning and lubrication. I will also include a 9VDC adapter. I tested this unit and found no trouble pulling in 10 or more stations per band. It also has a good sound with a decent bass response for such a small unit - and it is very loud if desired. Overall a great nostalgic radio with the added bonus of being fully operational. Excellent for a collector as a display piece or for regular use as a working unit! Condition: Excellent condition as shown! 00100 The power of protection from AOL and eBay. Learn more Shipping, payment details and return policy Ships to United States Shipping Cost Services Available Service Transit Time* Available to US $14.99 US Postal Service Priority Mail=AE Estimated delivery 2-3 days United States only *Sellers are not responsible for service transit time. 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Go backBack to home page | Ask seller a question | Report this item | Printer Version | Email to a friend Seller assumes all responsibility for listing this item. Welcome to eBay! Find more items similar to: OLD 1964 GE 'WORLD MONITOR' SHORT WAVE RADIO MULTI BAND See all items in: Radios: CB, Ham & Shortwave > Shortwave Radio Need help? Take a tour to learn more eBay Pulse | eBay Reviews | eBay Stores | Half.com | Kijiji | PayPal | Popular Searches | ProStores | Rent.com | Shopping.com | Skype Australia | Austria | China | France | Germany | India | Italy | Spain | United Kingdom Article: 340987 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1156895028.393210.24220@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156912115.237001.83500@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Help on first Zenith 9-S-262 Restore - Dial Pointer? Springs? 6T5 Questions Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 02:05:12 -0400 Message-ID: <46KdncyJdvQqtGjZnZ2dnUVZ_u-dnZ2d@comcast.com> I should have that dial but send me the part # off yours to be sure. its 26-xxx Seems I recall if the 1 meg eye tube resistor is open you still get green glow, but it doesnt actuate. If you have no glow, check for plate voltage. Mark Oppat "KB9NLK" wrote in message news:1156912115.237001.83500@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > Sounds good guys! I appreciate all the great info you have posted for > me to get started on this project. > > I tested the 6T5 on another radio and it worked nice and bright, so I > am guessing the resistor in the socket is bad.... When I turn on the > radio the 6T5 and another 6E5 I had lying around glows in the center of > the tube, but no green (phosphate) color at all.... > > Mark, I will probably be ordering the volume dial if you still provide > these.... Mine is cracked around the center where it attaches to the > lug on the volume shaft. > > Thanks again to everyone! > > > Ed > > KB9NLK > > Article: 340988 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Noble" References: <44F0DF51.61DA511D@earthlink.net> <44F3061E.DEE9BA3C@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Tape motor Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 23:38:12 -0700 Message-ID: <44f52539$0$8854$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> it's highly probable that you are using the transistor as a variable resistor when in fact it should be in switch mode - hard on or hard off - but I don't know that radio/motor, so this is a guess. "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:GULIg.1321$N84.642@trnddc08... > With the base resistor at 390 ohms, the motor runs fast. Apparently this > is from the new transistor being turned on hard. At about 500 ohms, the > motor settles in and tries to run at speed, but there's a little bit of > wow that can be heard -- like the motor's trying to run a hair faster. At > 680, 820, 910, or 1k it maintains its speed well. I still haven't > determined whether the transducer feeds back DC, AC, or some sort of > pulses, but as it is with the 1k bias it seems to hold its speed well. > > Remember, Sams shows the base resistor at 220 ohms, and it had a 390 in > there. That leads me to believe that this resistor is "picked" to match > the transistor, and that in this case, a replacement transistor required a > higher base resistor. > > This unit had some other annoying problems as well, and it didn't help > much to be interrupted with a barrage of phone calls -- most of which were > 'vote for me' recordings, but by the end of the day, it's finally ready to > go. > > . . . And now, to answer the other question -- now that I've got this one > off the bench, I have a little more time to clean -- and that includes > setting a scope that I already have, onto a cart that I already have. In > fact I'm taking all the test equipment that I rarely use, removing it from > the bench, and shelving it; I can pull these pieces out at such times as I > need them. Meanwhile I can use the extra room. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > "Bill Cohn" wrote in message > news:LvednZYXHp7nzW7ZnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d@comcast.com... >> Gary, >> >> I worked in an Auto Sound repair shop in 1970 where I repaired many 8 >> track units with the transistor speed regulator. You may still have a bad >> motor. You may have just masked the problem by changing the base >> resistor. If the regulator is working properly you should be able to vary >> the supply voltage from 11.5 to about 14.4 volts with the speed staying >> fairly constant. If this is not possible the regulator is not working and >> the speed will change in the car as the supply voltage changes. Make sure >> the speed is constant for a range of input voltage before you give it >> back or the customer will be disappointed. >> >> Regards, >> >> Bill Cohn - N9MHT >> >> Gary Tayman wrote: >>> I think I've got it. >>> >>> I removed the base resistor, ran two wires out of the radio ('cause I >>> can't play a tape without the bottom case being on), and connected the >>> wires to a resistor box. I suspect the base resistor for two reasons -- >>> first, the Sams sez it should be 220, and it was 390 -- and it measured >>> around 500. Second, it makes sense that base bias will affect collector, >>> and thus, speed. >>>u >>> I tried a 470, and it ran, but tried to speed up at times. I moved it >>> up and it improved, and with 1k, it's playing great. >>> >>> So a 1k it is -- and I'll be playing this tape for awhile to make sure. >>> I'm getting a little tired of Herb Alpert over and over . . . >>> >>> > -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 340989 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 29 Aug 2006 23:38:45 -0700 Message-ID: <1156919925.389622.257500@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Anti-Dinius wrote: > Bob in Phx wrote: > > they work odd jobs for cash, or defraud the government by selling off food > > stamps etc, or they pan handle.... there are lots of ways, someone with time > > on there hands to make a couple of bucks for disposable income. > > > > > Dinius work? I can't picture that. Sell something that gets him food? > Not likely. Panhandling? Maybe but when can he fit that in with all > the time he spends on Usenet. I spend more time sleeping and walking every day than I do on Usenet. It takes little more than an hour to check two groups. Perhaps the real person behind Anti-Dinius should contribute something himself? > He's won $97 worth of stuff on eBay alone this month and that doesn't > include shipping (some of it's bulky too). You forgot the Bose 301 equalizer I helped my boss get, which puts it up to at least 250.00 except he paid for his item entirely. My you are nosy like Hedda Hopper, but I will sit here and amuse you. Since I have few debts and I'm about to get rid of the last one in September, I have money to spend before winter sets in. I spent over 160.00 on food (only FORTY-ONE is food stamps, buddy) And let me remind you I don't drive (too expensive anyway). Would the National Enquirer like to know more? Article: 340990 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 29 Aug 2006 23:40:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1156920013.124336.265220@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> jim menning wrote: > "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message > news:ei8Jg.4654$Cs3.1569@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > > > > Anti-Bozo wrote: > >> Where does someone living off the government get the extra cash to make > >> purchases like this? > > > > Simple, he probably makes $300-400 a day just walking around telling > > people, "If you give me a dollar, I'll go somewhere else." > > > > Jeff > > > > > Maybe we should pass the hat around here. > > jim menning Maybe you two should just pass out. Article: 340991 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: earn money pay per click Date: 29 Aug 2006 23:43:55 -0700 Message-ID: <1156920235.890305.266900@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1156902613.555088.289230@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> L. wrote: > "alveena" wrote in message > news:1156902613.555088.289230@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > earn money , click on advertisement on www.kafeelahmad.com and also > > purchase the gems and rudraksh. contact at alveenakafeel@indiatimes.com > > > > SUCKER!!!!!!!!!!! Not even this Skippy cat I've heard of would fall for that. Article: 340992 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <10288-44F4C710-951@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 03:31:31 -0700 Message-ID: Gary, you're trying to create another form of "Maxwell's demon". Article: 340993 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <8a5Jg.3714$nR2.408@trnddc03> <1156907244.346571.139700@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 03:33:34 -0700 Message-ID: <5O-dndpiNOYd9GjZnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com> I wouldn't want a Zenith console unless it had a Micro-Touch 2G tonearm with a working pickup. Article: 340994 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gerryu21220@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Date: 30 Aug 2006 04:02:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1156935720.525632.255740@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> William Sommerwerck wrote: > I wouldn't want a Zenith console unless it had a Micro-Touch 2G tonearm with > a working pickup. I believe that model came out the following year. Probably very nice, but not as cool as the Cobra-Matic, which is why I bought the console in the first place. The cartridge, an Electro-Voice 2604, wasn't working properly. The Lp side played fine, while the 78 side didn't. I tried another, pulled >from another Cobra-Matic, and it has the opposite problem: Lp side doesn't play properly, but the 78 side does. The Lp side sounds down right screechy compared to the other one. Not a needle issue - it seems to be the tiny rubber thingee inside that the needle rests in that's attached to the elements. In the process of swapping the cartridge out, one of the terminal pins just snapped right off. Can't find another to replace it with either. I did see somewhere that an Astatic 133 cartridge is often used as a replacement, but it's a crystal cartridge, I believe, and I'm not sure how that would perform. Could also use an Astatic 13T (all-in-one plug-in needle/cartridge combo), but they don't have quite the frequency response I like. Plenty of bass, but they tend to cut the higher frequencies. I'd love to keep it original, but like I said the Electro-Voice cartridge just doesn't seem to be available anywhere, new or used. Any recommendations for a suitable replacement that will fit the Cobra-Matic and sound resonably good? Article: 340995 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:02:24 -0500 Subject: Re: 6U5-6G5 for sale From: John Stone Message-ID: References: <1156914194.472231.105420@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> On 8/30/06 12:03 AM, in article 1156914194.472231.105420@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "Chip" wrote: > Hello, I'm new to this group, I am a antique radio hobbiest, I have > been clearing out some of my junkbox, and decided to thin out my tube > collection, I have 5 tuining eye 6U5 tubes for sale, they are in good > shape, one tested over 90%, and the other 4 over 80%. Will sell all 5 > for $40. The only true test of an eye tube is the brightness of the target, not what the meter on a tube tester says. Used eye tubes tend to be like used tires-mostly a waste of time. Perhaps yours are different, but you should let the group how bright they are under test compared to a new one. Article: 340996 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <8a5Jg.3714$nR2.408@trnddc03> <1156907244.346571.139700@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5O-dndpiNOYd9GjZnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com> <1156935720.525632.255740@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 04:09:41 -0700 Message-ID: <2KCdnRo8lJdl7GjZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com> > Not a needle issue -- it seems to be the tiny rubber thingy > inside that the needle rests in that's attached to the elements. That thingy provides both compliance and damping. It gradually dries out, so it's no surprise the pickup's sound isn't right. Article: 340997 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Emerson with no volume References: <1156905656.095457.300790@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 07:23:09 -0400 What was the problem??? Ken Daniel Russell wrote: > Ok.... I just want to say thanks to all who have helped me with my > volume issue. It has been a long couple months but i now have volume > control. she is almost done. thanks again > Dan > Article: 340998 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <8a5Jg.3714$nR2.408@trnddc03> <1156907244.346571.139700@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5O-dndpiNOYd9GjZnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com> <1156935720.525632.255740@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Message-ID: <%yeJg.4883$nR2.3274@trnddc03> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 11:23:39 GMT There are places where you might find an original replacement -- have you checked Garage-A-Records? Also, don't forget about Syl, who may be able to rebuild the one you have. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:1156935720.525632.255740@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > William Sommerwerck wrote: >> I wouldn't want a Zenith console unless it had a Micro-Touch 2G tonearm >> with >> a working pickup. > > I believe that model came out the following year. Probably very nice, > but not as cool as the Cobra-Matic, which is why I bought the console > in the first place. > > The cartridge, an Electro-Voice 2604, wasn't working properly. The Lp > side played fine, while the 78 side didn't. I tried another, pulled > from another Cobra-Matic, and it has the opposite problem: Lp side > doesn't play properly, but the 78 side does. The Lp side sounds down > right screechy compared to the other one. Not a needle issue - it > seems to be the tiny rubber thingee inside that the needle rests in > that's attached to the elements. In the process of swapping the > cartridge out, one of the terminal pins just snapped right off. Can't > find another to replace it with either. I did see somewhere that an > Astatic 133 cartridge is often used as a replacement, but it's a > crystal cartridge, I believe, and I'm not sure how that would perform. > Could also use an Astatic 13T (all-in-one plug-in needle/cartridge > combo), but they don't have quite the frequency response I like. > Plenty of bass, but they tend to cut the higher frequencies. I'd love > to keep it original, but like I said the Electro-Voice cartridge just > doesn't seem to be available anywhere, new or used. Any > recommendations for a suitable replacement that will fit the > Cobra-Matic and sound resonably good? > Article: 340999 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <10288-44F4C710-951@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 11:29:31 GMT I'm not trying to do anything -- I'm just mentioning the fact that the only difference between the magnetism in a permanent magnet and an electromagnet is the energy consumed in the electromagnet -- and the fact that a permanent one cannot be turned off. But the energy in a permanent magnet is still there, and if it could be harnessed to do more than stationary work, a motor could indeed be made -- and doing so would still use energy, but from the molecules themselves rather than from fuel. No, I haven't talked with others; however it's quite probable that they're following the same thread of ideas. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:vpudnU_0Vc-Y9GjZnZ2dnUVZ_qCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Gary, you're trying to create another form of "Maxwell's demon". > > Article: 341000 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Speaker with torn cone References: <1156906034.411946.312510@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 07:29:40 -0400 Use Aleenes fabric glue for the rip, available at hobby stores. Rock Sea should have your decals, http://members.aol.com/rockseaent/ Ken Daniel Russell wrote: > Hi group, > have a speaker that needs love, it is in my Emerson. it works good but > looks like hell and could sound better... also need a source of good > decails for emerson and philco. if anyone has any info it would be > appreciated, > Thanks > Dan > Article: 341001 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: bc191f@gmail.com Subject: Emerson model LP Date: 30 Aug 2006 04:47:45 -0700 Message-ID: <1156938465.286017.237660@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> This is a neat 3-way portable with 7-pin miniatures. Rectifier is 45Z3 Front cover houses loop & looks catalin. No pix or references in Bunis or Slusser. Found one with trashed back & was otherwise OK. Anyone else seen one? Rider 14 dates dwg 5/41. 1st ever 3-way portable w. all miniatures? Didn't beat RCA BP10 to market did it? One pal sez Zenith PocketRadio did. If interest, can post pic on web site. Marty Article: 341002 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 06:47:49 -0500 Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 From: John Stone Message-ID: References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <8a5Jg.3714$nR2.408@trnddc03> <1156907244.346571.139700@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5O-dndpiNOYd9GjZnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com> On 8/30/06 5:33 AM, in article 5O-dndpiNOYd9GjZnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com, "William Sommerwerck" wrote: > I wouldn't want a Zenith console unless it had a Micro-Touch 2G tonearm with > a working pickup. > > Micro Touch 2G, what a joke. Essentially a cheap ceramic cartridge that couldn't begin to track properly at 2 grams, floating on a spring (what was the point of that?) at the end of a VM tonearm. Of course, since the speakers had no highs, you couldn't hear the horrible mistracking that was going on. I just serviced one of those for a customer. Pure junk. Article: 341003 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert McLean" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 30 Aug 2006 05:27:36 -0700 Message-ID: <1156940856.280699.78320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: Gary Tayman wrote: > Throughout history there have been attempts at trying to build some form of > perpetual motion, and throughout history there has been a certain "law" of > physics that seems to have won out every time. > > However, > > Although I am not an engineer either, there is a certain phenomenon that has > piqued my interest for a long time, and makes me believe that someday a > fuel-less motor can indeed be built. The phenomenon is this: a simple > electric motor runs on magnetism, and many of them use permanent magnets in > their design. If ALL the magnetism were permanent, the motor would never > run -- not because there is a lack of magnetic energy -- there's plenty of > it -- but because we currently have no way to switch it on and off, or > reverse polarity. Such a motor would move a partial turn to align the > poles, and then stay there. We need electrical energy to drive the motor, > not because the permanent magnet doesn't have the same energy, but because > the magnet's field needs to be manipulated. > > However imagine if a permanent magnet could be made with a grid, like a > tube. A miniscule voltage on the grid could shut off the magnetism of some > poles while turning on others, and the motor would rotate. Control the > grids with brushes and a commutator and there you are -- a motor that runs > entirely on its own permanent magnetism. > > Would such a motor violate the laws of physics? No, it is indeed still > using energy. However instead of deriving it from batteries or fuel, this > energy comes from the ambient heat around us. Molecules consist of > electrons spinning furiously around protons and neutrons; a magnet is simply > a material whose electrons are spinning in the same direction, creating the > field. Therein is the energy. This energy is already being used to hold > your shopping list to the refrigerator door; it has yet to be used to spin a > motor by itself. But the energy source is indeed there; we just need to > invent a means of harnessing it (aside from a nuclear reactor). > > Make sense? > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com Gary : The fallacy in this type of argument is the belief that there is energy in a magnet, and that it can be somehow got out. But in fact there is no energy in a magnet. A magnet is not a storehouse of energy that can be mined or exploited. The magnet exerts a force on objects, either attractive or repulsive, but force is not energy. The energy involved when interacting with magnets is supplied by whatever it is that is moving the object in question closer to or farther from the magnet. The energy is not supplied by the magnet. Article: 341004 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 30 Aug 2006 05:31:58 -0700 Message-ID: <1156941118.504128.178960@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > You forgot the Bose 301 equalizer I helped my boss get, which puts it > up to at least 250.00 except he paid for his item entirely. My you are > nosy like Hedda Hopper, but I will sit here and amuse you. Since I have > few debts and I'm about to get rid of the last one in September, I have > money to spend before winter sets in. I spent over 160.00 on food (only > FORTY-ONE is food stamps, buddy) And let me remind you I don't drive > (too expensive anyway). > You're a drain on society and your handout should cover your bare living expenses with not a penny left over. Maybe the government would be interested in how their money is being wasted. > Would the National Enquirer like to know more? No and neither would anyone else but that won't stop you from spewing all the details out eventually. I'm not nosy. This is stuff you post in public forums. Why would you have to remind me you don't drive unless you've brought it up before? I surely didn't ask. Article: 341005 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 30 Aug 2006 05:40:19 -0700 Message-ID: <1156941619.161095.217550@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: .>I spent over 160.00 on food (only > FORTY-ONE is food stamps, buddy) Where'd the rest come from? I didn't think there was much demand for obese gay male prostitutes. If you hadn't purchased $97 worth of stuff on eBay then you wouldn't have needed the food stamps. Article: 341006 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "N Cook" Subject: Re: Fabricating a stylus replacement Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 13:42:24 +0100 Message-ID: References: N Cook wrote in message news:ecmo9s$k39$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > I've done the steel (for electro-magnetic induction) metalwork to make a > functional replacement (to preserve the original un-used) for the stylus > carrying shaft through a 55 year old magnetic cartridge. > I've robbed the stylus point, (same translucent white -what is the gem?) > from later style LP/SP stylus with a tiny part of the aluminimum stylus > shaft and intend gluing to the pit at the end of the steel shaft about 1.5 > mm internal diameter , outside diameter 1.8mm and about 2 mm deep above the > solid part of the steel. What sort of glue would be best epoxy, super-glue > or some specialist glue? > The steel I've used is probably high carbon brittle rods for holding cogs in > clock repair, so very stiff for its small diameter. > > -- > Diverse Devices, Southampton, England > electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on > http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ > > > I've made a servicable stylus pictured on http://www.diversed.fsnet.co.uk/garrard.htm for checking out the mechanicals to save the original from damage. Final overall pic not taken yet as not reassembled yet Stylus is a bit longer than should be , my error, the brass colour of the shaft is brass sleeve fitted over the steel clock repair pin to form a pit at the end for securing the glue, so far not dislodged. Brass pin and 2 pieces of moulded hot melt glue painted black form the soft anchors. The manual says it is sapphire but does not state what weight at the stylus. As it is, its about 25 grams , is that about right for this pickup ? Other details, but not yet the stylus making details, on http://www.divdev.fsnet.co.uk/repair2.htm -- Diverse Devices, Southampton, England electronic hints and repair briefs , schematics/manuals list on http://home.graffiti.net/diverse:graffiti.net/ Article: 341007 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 30 Aug 2006 05:53:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1156942398.883662.11710@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > I spend more time sleeping and walking every day than I do on Usenet. > It takes little more than an hour to check two groups. Over 800 posts with this e-mail address this month so far and not a thing to say. Spend the hour doing something else. >Perhaps the real > person behind Anti-Dinius should contribute something himself? I'm a person too and I have the right to post....blah blah blah. Article: 341008 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 30 Aug 2006 06:13:08 -0700 Message-ID: <1156943588.451209.162540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > Perhaps the real > person behind Anti-Dinius should contribute something himself? I'm contributing stress to you which could shorten your miserable life. Everybody wins! Article: 341009 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 30 Aug 2006 07:09:15 -0700 Message-ID: <1156946955.356419.305040@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: This may have been covered, but any machine that gives even 100.1% of the energy back that is put in, is probably going to require a ton of space and weight to get a usable amount of energy. Or it will be in some way very impractical. I'd welcome the invention, of course, but consider the reality of the world today: we can't even get people to get out of their big heavy cars when gas has doubled in price. Check it out, gasoline usage is up. Square footage is up in new homes. Electricity usage per capita is up with all our gadgets we (most of us) never turn off. We need to solve those problems first. That would produce a huge amount of energy just through conservation. Tox Article: 341010 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1156801120.672205.242310@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156917637.783095.98770@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FA: 1964 GE P990-A 'WORLD MONITOR' SHORT WAVE RADIO MULTI BAND Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:14:58 GMT jtoth624@gmail.com wrote: > > For auction is a nice vintage working 1964 GE P990-A "World Monitor" > multi-band radio. The only issue with it is the FM antenna "retaining > clip" issue that plagues many of these units but is in nice shape all > around. Both antennas are perfect with no kinks or crimps and all > features, bands and controls work fine. Have a look, it's a nice radio! > Condition: Excellent condition as shown! Really? The only issue is the antenna clip? Why is the stitching all coming apart? Where is the original brown handle? Why is it so filthy and dusty? The antenna is broken. There is obvious rust on the hardware and connections on the back. The leather is all dried out and brittle. The leather, the grill, and the rest of the radio is all scuffed up. How musty does it smell? Is the inside as rusty as the hardware on the back of the radio would indicate? jim menning Article: 341011 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1156938465.286017.237660@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Emerson model LP Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:22:05 GMT wrote in message news:1156938465.286017.237660@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > If interest, can post pic on web site. > > Marty > Just because it's not in Bunis or Slusser means little. 99+% of the radios made aren't pictured in them. Don't be teasing us, post the pictures somewhere so we can all see it. Maybe it will look familiar to some of us. jim menning Article: 341012 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:26:07 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <8a5Jg.3714$nR2.408@trnddc03> In "Mark Oppat" writes: [Victrolas and their ilk] >Right, and the floor models go for very little in "as is" condition. A >fully restored and working great version will go for decent money, however. Bruce @ Waves recently had one of the Sonoras with the noodly grillework and craved wood tonearm. Sexy-ass machine. >I doubt 60's-70's wide body stereo consoles will ever go for much unless in >mint condition and restored. There will be very little collector activity >in these... because, they take up a LOT of space! Especially when by the time collecting interest in these really hits the fan everyone will be walking around with a 10 exabyte, networked MP47 player implanted behind their right earlobe. :) The acceleration of technology does make you wonder how future generations will view communication history. After all, a radio's a radio. From the TRF sets to what a lot of us grew up with, it sat on the shelf, had knobs and a speaker. But when things start to change radically -- no more knobs, *impossibly* small, drastically different storage mechanism, a (tv) display that's nothing like before... Will the ancestral machines be viewed as distant relatives, or not even be recognized as the same branch of evolution? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 341013 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: 6U5-6G5 for sale Date: 30 Aug 2006 07:32:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1156948373.127333.311050@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156914194.472231.105420@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> > The only true test of an eye tube is the brightness of the target, not what > the meter on a tube tester says. Used eye tubes tend to be like used > tires-mostly a waste of time. Perhaps yours are different, but you should > let the group how bright they are under test compared to a new one. Typically the triode will test good long after the target has gone dim. Article: 341014 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:39:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <10288-44F4C710-951@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> In "Gary Tayman" writes: >Although I am not an engineer either, there is a certain phenomenon that has >piqued my interest for a long time, and makes me believe that someday a >fuel-less motor can indeed be built. The phenomenon is this: a simple >electric motor runs on magnetism, and many of them use permanent magnets in >their design. If ALL the magnetism were permanent, the motor would never >run -- not because there is a lack of magnetic energy -- there's plenty of >it -- but because we currently have no way to switch it on and off, or >reverse polarity. Such a motor would move a partial turn to align the >poles, and then stay there. We need electrical energy to drive the motor, >not because the permanent magnet doesn't have the same energy, but because >the magnet's field needs to be manipulated. That's the difference between potential and kinetic energy. If you put a five pound bag of sugar on the kitchen scale, it presses down with five punds of force, but you can't really *do* anything with this because, as you say, it's not "switched". -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 341015 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:41:14 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <13726-44F4FD23-871@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> In <13726-44F4FD23-871@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> cuhulin@webtv.net writes: >I have another idea I have had for many years.Sometimes I doodle >around/sketch it out on the backs of envelopes.Except for a heavy >flywheel and a sprag/ratchet clutch,I probally have most of the junk I >would need here to rig something up.It doesn't pertain to magnet morors. Rig it up! If nothing else you'll wind up with a cool folkart sculpture. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 341016 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:45:57 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <21764-44F51020-858@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> In <21764-44F51020-858@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> cuhulin@webtv.net writes: >I have a Popular Science magazine here which dates back to the 1950's or >1960's.There is an article in the magazine about certain kind of trees >that grow in Brazil and they tap the trees for diesel fuel and other >thingys. www.devilfinder.com The diesel fuel trees in Brazil >So,just plant some diesel fuel trees and when they get big enough,buy a >car that has a diesel engine. Where do people think diesel comes from? A gas pump? It *is* trees, just really, really old trees. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 341017 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1156914194.472231.105420@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: 6U5-6G5 for sale Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:50:00 -0400 Message-ID: john, not quite true about used tires or used eyes. Most of them are indeed bad, but if an eye tube is indeed "good" visually, its life is proportionate to its existing condition, same as with used tires. I used to buy a lot of used tires in college. All of them ran out just as well as any existing tire I already owned in similar condition. Basically, both tires and eye tubes have a fairly linear wear life. In other words, the longer the use, the more the wear, unless some odd abuse or road hazard kills one. Anyone who runs their eye tube radio long hours might want to consider a switch in line with the filiment of it. Mark Oppat "John Stone" wrote in message news:C11ADA70.554FE%jmsent2@comcast.net... > On 8/30/06 12:03 AM, in article > 1156914194.472231.105420@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "Chip" > wrote: > > > Hello, I'm new to this group, I am a antique radio hobbiest, I have > > been clearing out some of my junkbox, and decided to thin out my tube > > collection, I have 5 tuining eye 6U5 tubes for sale, they are in good > > shape, one tested over 90%, and the other 4 over 80%. Will sell all 5 > > for $40. > > The only true test of an eye tube is the brightness of the target, not what > the meter on a tube tester says. Used eye tubes tend to be like used > tires-mostly a waste of time. Perhaps yours are different, but you should > let the group how bright they are under test compared to a new one. > > Article: 341018 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1156906034.411946.312510@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Speaker with torn cone Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 10:54:23 -0400 Message-ID: Ken, Rocksea is sold out to Radiodaze.com I have Emerson clef decals, they are on my Zenith sheets. I also have the Philco sheets. $6 ea postpaid. They are not on my website yet, but all my dials and some other stuff are. www.oldradioparts.net Mark Oppat "Ken" wrote in message news:JEeJg.8185$Tl4.133@dukeread06... > Use Aleenes fabric glue for the rip, available at hobby stores. Rock Sea > should have your decals, http://members.aol.com/rockseaent/ Ken > > Daniel Russell wrote: > > > Hi group, > > have a speaker that needs love, it is in my Emerson. it works good but > > looks like hell and could sound better... also need a source of good > > decails for emerson and philco. if anyone has any info it would be > > appreciated, > > Thanks > > Dan > > > > Article: 341019 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "L." References: <21764-44F51020-858@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1156946955.356419.305040@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 11:10:13 -0400 Message-ID: <44f5aa58$0$10209$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> We can debate this sort of thing endlessly. Whatever design is created, however it is employed, whatever type or amount of energy may come from it - one thing is for sure - throughout history - man has always tried to devise new ways of doing things. Many succeed, many fail. Many men (and perhaps women) have died trying - their ideas. That is the marvel of man - to keep trying - regardless how assinine the idea sounds, looks or works. Some ideas HAVE come to be heavily relied on - the airplane for example.......... As to the "magnetic" principles, I think I can see where they're coming from with those. Actually - they're nothing new. I've heard others think along those same lines........ I have - myself....... But thinking of ideas no matter how crazy - as pointed out - has led to things we do depend on. You never know what the next crazy idea may be - that moves us into the future. Never say never. Just when you think it "may" be impossible - some lucky devil will come along and make it work. More power to them. I once sent to England to their Patent Office for copies of some ideas from years back (50s/40s or beyond) and let me tell you - though some weren't adopted for worldwide use, there sure were some rather crazy looking devices. You would wonder how some may have worked OR why they were created - even if never to be distributed. AND - don't forget - some things "written" about in science fiction - have in fact come to being. We never know what we'll see in years to come. I can't wait.......... I guess this could best be finished by saying - debate the ideas if you want - but sit back and ENJOY - the wonders of mankind - as they unfold by such thinkers. We'll never cease to be amazed. After all, were it not for those who at that time "strangely" devised the way of sending wireless signals and receiving them - this newsgroup wouldn't have the topic it has. Who knows, maybe in 5 years perhaps more, we may have groups talking more science fiction stuff which has come to pass then............ As methods in the past have been debated, these methods are being debated, I'm sure - so too will they....... I find these talks - pro or con - quite invigorating. AND - you have to admit, they do give you food for thought to be able to debate it. L. Article: 341020 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "dave@hurtle.com" Subject: Re: Tape motor Date: 30 Aug 2006 08:13:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1156950801.736011.147700@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <44F0DF51.61DA511D@earthlink.net> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > Gary, that transistor package was used by Motorola in the '60s on > their low cost silicon power transistors, the MJE series. The package > isn't suitable for germanium transistors. I think I have some good MJE > pulls from old 8" hard drives if you want a few for free. From the look > of the circuit, the motor is likely bad. Can you lift the red wire to > measure the current? Also, that is probably a Panasonic (Matsushita) or > Sanyo motor inside the Philco shielded mount. I have a pile of new and > used 8-track motors and a few new heads left in stock. You wouldn't happen to have a Matsushita MHT-5NT9A motor you'd be willing to part with for a reasonable price? It's a 9V motor from one of those Panasonic 8 track players that looks like a pocketbook. I've been looking for a junker but nothing's turned up in awhile. I checked a few car radio 8-tracks I had sitting around and they were too big to fit assuming the voltage difference wouldn't be a problem. DesertBub's nemesis had them available but I chose not to deal with either of those two. Article: 341021 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 30 Aug 2006 08:52:46 -0700 Message-ID: <1156953166.084152.137670@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> References: Tim Mullen wrote: > In <21764-44F51020-858@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> cuhulin@webtv.net writes: > > >I have a Popular Science magazine here which dates back to the 1950's or > >1960's.There is an article in the magazine about certain kind of trees > >that grow in Brazil and they tap the trees for diesel fuel and other > >thingys. www.devilfinder.com The diesel fuel trees in Brazil > > >So,just plant some diesel fuel trees and when they get big enough,buy a > >car that has a diesel engine. > > Where do people think diesel comes from? A gas pump? It *is* > trees, just really, really old trees. It comes from the same oil they used to make your unleaded, it's just early in the production scheme and closer to the actual crude oil. Then the oil left goes through all the catalytic cracking etc until it's broken down into the napthas and gasoline and such. My dad pumped it for 35 years. Article: 341022 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 30 Aug 2006 08:55:52 -0700 Message-ID: <1156953352.585099.63180@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: L. I found the "More power to them" part ironic and amusing. Thanks for the giggle this morning. Steven Article: 341023 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 30 Aug 2006 08:59:42 -0700 Message-ID: <1156953582.719941.43570@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Anti-Dinius wrote: > Steven wrote: > > > I spend more time sleeping and walking every day than I do on Usenet. > > It takes little more than an hour to check two groups. > > Over 800 posts with this e-mail address this month so far and not a > thing to say. Spend the hour doing something else. > > >Perhaps the real > > person behind Anti-Dinius should contribute something himself? > > I'm a person too and I have the right to post....blah blah blah. This is America and you have the opportunity to catch up. Perhaps you can be great someday. In the meantime, nice try. Article: 341024 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: The "Clean Bench Challenge" is underway! Date: 30 Aug 2006 09:03:17 -0700 Message-ID: <1156953797.640819.121120@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Anti-Bozo wrote: > Steven wrote: > > My whole house is a bench and I've been at it all week. > > What happens after the week it up? Do the police kick you out of the > park? I thought the governmant took better care of you than that. Come and see. You've got two posters in one head (three if you count the real you), so how do you keep your head clean? Have a nice day, your efforts are pretty useless, good night Gracie. Article: 341025 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "zek" Subject: Re: The "Clean Bench Challenge" is underway! Date: 30 Aug 2006 09:07:39 -0700 Message-ID: <1156954058.953703.228590@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: Gary Tayman wrote: > I know some are you have been waiting in anticipation, but I've officially > started the clean bench campaign -- I just posted a few photos on the > binaries. So now it's time to see everyone else's clean/dirty benches once > again! > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com I will be setting up a bench and stuff in my new home. I was thinking, how about a bench top that tilts up, and everything falls down the back side into a big box. Instant clean bench. gs Article: 341026 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: The "Clean Bench Challenge" is underway! Date: 30 Aug 2006 09:20:59 -0700 Message-ID: <1156954859.180327.307770@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: zek wrote: > Gary Tayman wrote: > > I know some are you have been waiting in anticipation, but I've officially > > started the clean bench campaign -- I just posted a few photos on the > > binaries. So now it's time to see everyone else's clean/dirty benches once > > again! > > > > > > > > -- > > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > I will be setting up a bench and stuff in my new home. I was thinking, > how about a bench top that tilts up, and everything falls down the back > side into a big box. Instant clean bench. > > gs He could do dental surgery in that workshop, Gary's place is so clean. The last shot I saw is the only hint of something being worked on ;-) Article: 341027 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gerryu21220@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Date: 30 Aug 2006 09:36:09 -0700 Message-ID: <1156955769.799846.72180@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> William Sommerwerck wrote: > > Not a needle issue -- it seems to be the tiny rubber thingy > > inside that the needle rests in that's attached to the elements. > > That thingy provides both compliance and damping. It gradually dries out, so > it's no surprise the pickup's sound isn't right. I know what it does, I just don't know what it's called. It's still soft and pliable; I've been poking and prodding it with a toothpick. That helped for a short while, then it slipped back into whatever position was making it screech. I think what's happened here is that it's melted ever-so-slightly and gone just a tiny bit out of shape over the years, probably now making contact with the cartridge shell. It did seem stuck to the shell when I poked it. It would also explain why only one side of each cartridge is affected - depending on which way it was turned during disuse... Good news: I may have found one online under a different mfr and model number. Wish me luck! ;-) Gerry Article: 341028 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44F5C0C5.4A1C5648@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Tape motor References: <44F0DF51.61DA511D@earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:47:05 GMT "dave@hurtle.com" wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > > > Gary, that transistor package was used by Motorola in the '60s on > > their low cost silicon power transistors, the MJE series. The package > > isn't suitable for germanium transistors. I think I have some good MJE > > pulls from old 8" hard drives if you want a few for free. From the look > > of the circuit, the motor is likely bad. Can you lift the red wire to > > measure the current? Also, that is probably a Panasonic (Matsushita) or > > Sanyo motor inside the Philco shielded mount. I have a pile of new and > > used 8-track motors and a few new heads left in stock. > > You wouldn't happen to have a Matsushita MHT-5NT9A motor you'd be > willing to part with for a reasonable price? It's a 9V motor from one > of those Panasonic 8 track players that looks like a pocketbook. I've > been looking for a junker but nothing's turned up in awhile. I checked > a few car radio 8-tracks I had sitting around and they were too big to > fit assuming the voltage difference wouldn't be a problem. > > DesertBub's nemesis had them available but I chose not to deal with > either of those two. I'll see what I have after the weather clears. -- Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to prove it. Member of DAV #85. Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 341029 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 30 Aug 2006 09:49:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1156956584.589436.153980@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: > My dad pumped it for 35 years. Did he bring you to work when you were a child and let you sniff the fumes? It could explain quite a bit. Article: 341030 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ron Toller" References: Subject: Re: RCA automobile 45 changer? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:42:55 GMT These automobile 45 record players were manufactured by RCA at it's Cambridge, Ohio plant. They were made for Chrylser only and weren't even available to RCA employee's. Ron "Pin Geek" wrote in message news:X8OdnVD7X7377GnZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Hi all, > A while back on Ebay I saw a flyer with Steve Allen on it for some kind of > RCA 45 record changer for your car. I think there was just one model made > and they scrapped it. Well, a buddy of mine wants one for a vintage car > he is restoring. Do these exist anywhere? Any leads on one would be most > greatly appreciated. I think dead or alive is acceptable. Are they hard to > repair? > > Any leads, PLEASE email me at pingeek@pingeek.com > > Thanks, > Josh > http://www.pingeek.com > Get your pinball show dvds here: > http://www.thepinballshow.com > > > Article: 341031 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "suiniD-itnA" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 30 Aug 2006 10:05:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1156957505.460042.192060@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Anti-Dinius wrote: > > > > Steven wrote: > > > My dad pumped it for 35 years. > > > > Did he bring you to work when you were a child and let you sniff the > > fumes? It could explain quite a bit. > > > No, someone would had mistaken him for a dipstick. THAT'S FUNNY! Article: 341032 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 30 Aug 2006 10:08:37 -0700 Message-ID: <1156957717.234691.214460@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > > This is America and you have the opportunity to catch up. I thought the Internet was a global thing. You know what happens when you ASS-U-ME and you don't need any help. Article: 341033 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "suiniD-itnA" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 30 Aug 2006 10:17:57 -0700 Message-ID: <1156958277.366725.239700@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: suiniD-itnA wrote: > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > Anti-Dinius wrote: > > > > > > Steven wrote: > > > > My dad pumped it for 35 years. > > > > > > Did he bring you to work when you were a child and let you sniff the > > > fumes? It could explain quite a bit. > > > > > > No, someone would had mistaken him for a dipstick. > > THAT'S FUNNY! Well, not exactly, but if that's what some of you consider useful, it's all I have to work with. Maybe if you spent more time doing radio work and not trying to find yet another unsuccessful childish pratfall you think will scare the big, bad Steven away. You left elementary school 30-50 years ago. You can't go back or they'll look at you funny like you're John Wayne Gacy or something. Move on and quit wasting your time. Article: 341034 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 30 Aug 2006 10:29:57 -0700 Message-ID: <1156958997.404031.11620@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: suiniD-itnA wrote: > > > No, someone would had mistaken him for a dipstick. > > > > THAT'S FUNNY! > > Well, not exactly, but if that's what some of you consider useful, it's > all I have to work with. Maybe if you spent more time doing radio work > and not trying to find yet another unsuccessful childish pratfall you > think will scare the big, bad Steven away. > > You left elementary school 30-50 years ago. You can't go back or > they'll look at you funny like you're John Wayne Gacy or something. > Move on and quit wasting your time. I thought it was funny. What's the matter, Skippy? You don't like it when somene changes their handle and posts a bunch of garbage to the group? Does it diminsh your enjoyment of the group? You can't seem to follow the advice you're giving out. When you can, all of this will pass. It's up to you and nobody else. Article: 341035 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:39:34 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <21764-44F51020-858@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1156946955.356419.305040@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <44f5aa58$0$10209$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> In <44f5aa58$0$10209$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "L." writes: >We can debate this sort of thing endlessly. Whatever design is created, >however it is employed, whatever type or amount of energy may come from it - >one thing is for sure - throughout history - man has always tried to devise >new ways of doing things. Many succeed, many fail. Many men (and perhaps >women) have died trying - their ideas. "Human cardiac catheterization was introduced by Werner Forssman in 1929. Ignoring his department chief, and tying his assistant to an operating table to prevent his interference, he placed a urethral catheter into a vein in his arm, advanced it to the right atrium [of his heart], and walked upstairs to the x-ray department where he took the confirmatory x-ray film. In 1956, Dr. Forssman was awarded the Nobel Prize." Now THAT'S dedication to an idea! -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 341036 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." References: <44F49E3F.F445EE82@earthlink.net> <1156884841.042258.95240@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Crackling Tuning Condenser Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:46:21 GMT I doused the bearings with an alcohol-based degreaser for several minutes, dried it out, and re-oiled. It worked! I've never encountered anything like this before, but at least I know what to do next time. Expect to see this unit on Ebay soon with it's matching HF-12 amp. Never heard of the trick of burning out the dust particles. I'll keep it in mind though.... Thanks to Michael for the tip. I tend to miss the obvious solutions sometimes. "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:p_2dnTPLvdMdnGjZnZ2dnUVZ_sSdnZ2d@comcast.com... > I've had this problem many times. Microscopic metalic particles in there. > You gotta unhook the cap and attach 400v B+ to it, and burn the stuff out. > Put about 10K 2watt resistor in line with it too, to limit the current > from > your power supply. Work it back and forth while doing it. Works EVERY > time! > > Mark Oppat > > > "Chris F." wrote in message > news:vO3Jg.5870$9u.66228@ursa-nb00s0.nbnet.nb.ca... >> Funny thing is, the plates look perfectly clean. There are no dust > particles >> large enough to make contact between any two plates. I'll take Michaels >> suggestion and try cleaning it with a solvent and relubing. I'm guessing >> alcohol is best for removing grease, correct me if I'm wrong. >> >> "Jim Strickland" wrote in message >> news:1156884841.042258.95240@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... >> > I've had this problem. The best solution I've found is to open the >> > condenser all the way open and "floss" the plates with soft cotton >> > string. Be gentle, they bend easily, and make sure your string is >> > about the right diameter. >> > >> > -Jim >> > >> > Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> >> "Chris F." wrote: >> >> > >> >> > I've got this nice Eico tuner on my bench and it has a very >> >> > persistent >> >> > problem. The AM tuning condenser was crackling quite loudly during >> >> > tuning, >> >> > so as I often do I gave it a spritz of contact cleaner (around the >> >> > grounding >> >> > wipers). To my surprise, this made the problem 10 times worse. Every >> >> > time I >> >> > move the dial, I get a roar of crackles. I've removed the condenser > and >> >> > checked it carefully for shorting plates (using an LED and battery), >> >> > but can >> >> > find none. At this point I can only make a guess; perhaps the >> >> > contact >> >> > cleaner actually made the particles of dust more conductive, and > added >> >> > to >> >> > the problem. I'm going to try blowing it out with an air compressor > and >> >> > see >> >> > if that helps, in the meantime any suggestions would be appreciated. >> >> >> >> >> >> First of all, be careful with the compressed air. You can bend the >> >> plates with too much pressure. >> >> >> >> Did you replace the lubricant? Did you clean and relube the > bearings >> >> as well? You don't want to disassemble the unit, merely wash it out >> >> with solvent and relube with "Lubriplate" or "GC Contact Lube", if you >> >> can find it. >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to >> >> prove it. >> >> Member of DAV #85. >> >> >> >> Michael A. Terrell >> >> Central Florida >> > >> >> >> > > > Article: 341037 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chip" Subject: Re: 6U5-6G5 SOLD Date: 30 Aug 2006 10:56:48 -0700 Message-ID: <1156960608.431566.225850@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1156914194.472231.105420@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Hello group, the 6u5's I had for sale are gone, also thanks for the reminder about used tuning eye's being weak on brightness, thats very true, 1 of the tubes I had was verygood, and the other 4 were about half as bright. I have some used 45's, in good shape if anyone is interested, also a couple2A3's Best regards Chip Chip wrote: > Hello, I'm new to this group, I am a antique radio hobbiest, I have > been clearing out some of my junkbox, and decided to thin out my tube > collection, I have 5 tuining eye 6U5 tubes for sale, they are in good > shape, one tested over 90%, and the other 4 over 80%. Will sell all 5 > for $40. > Regards Chip Fuller Article: 341038 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "suiniD-itnA" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 30 Aug 2006 11:15:59 -0700 Message-ID: <1156961759.128691.253410@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Anti-Dinius wrote: > suiniD-itnA wrote: > > > > No, someone would had mistaken him for a dipstick. > > > > > > THAT'S FUNNY! > > > > Well, not exactly, but if that's what some of you consider useful, it's > > all I have to work with. Maybe if you spent more time doing radio work > > and not trying to find yet another unsuccessful childish pratfall you > > think will scare the big, bad Steven away. > > > > You left elementary school 30-50 years ago. You can't go back or > > they'll look at you funny like you're John Wayne Gacy or something. > > Move on and quit wasting your time. > > I thought it was funny. > > What's the matter, Skippy? You don't like it when somene changes their > handle and posts a bunch of garbage to the group? Does it diminsh your > enjoyment of the group? > > You can't seem to follow the advice you're giving out. When you can, > all of this will pass. It's up to you and nobody else. Bullshit. Same as the other five years of same. Palestians, etc vs Israelis etc. Nothing you do does anything but create further distraction by your own hand. Did they teach you that in the military? You are still the biggest loser. Article: 341039 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "suiniD-itnA" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 30 Aug 2006 11:23:26 -0700 Message-ID: <1156962206.934919.257790@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Anti-Dinius wrote: > Steven wrote: > > > > This is America and you have the opportunity to catch up. > > I thought the Internet was a global thing. You know what happens when > you ASS-U-ME and you don't need any help. fine Kan uw darmen bloat en u een dichtbijgelegen doodservaring nog in zakken niet geven intensiteit terwijl u vergeefs wacht te sterven. Dat is koele? Article: 341040 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 30 Aug 2006 11:32:39 -0700 Message-ID: <1156962759.914886.317920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: L. wrote: > Who knows, maybe in 5 years perhaps more, we may have groups talking more > science fiction stuff which has come to pass then............ As methods in > the past have been debated, these methods are being debated, I'm sure - so > too will they....... I find these talks - pro or con - quite invigorating. > AND - you have to admit, they do give you food for thought to be able to > debate it. > > L. Thanks for that. I agree it's important not to lose our sense of wonder. Tox Article: 341041 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: earn money pay per click Date: 30 Aug 2006 11:39:41 -0700 Message-ID: <1156963181.897244.96130@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1156902613.555088.289230@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> alveena wrote: > earn money , click on advertisement on www.kafeelahmad.com and also > purchase the gems and rudraksh. contact at alveenakafeel@indiatimes.com Oh! By all the arms of Shiva! I have been looking all over for a rudraksh! I hope they have a shiny brass one from Bombay. I am standing here beside myself! Article: 341042 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" Subject: Anyone have a 1920's Eveready 7111 A battery? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 15:22:56 -0400 Message-ID: <44f5e58e$0$76686$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> I'm on the threshold of making all the necessary batteries for the RCA Radiola 24. Only thing I would like to get hold of is the cover to the 7111 A battery. Can't miss it--same as a Number 6 cell, except it has instructions on how to wire it into a radio and it has a large white A printed in the middle. Anyone have one I can purchase? I'd need to remove and flatten the cover in order to scan it. Bill Article: 341043 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: What's happened (RCA 3-BX-671)? Message-ID: <4HlJg.11445$ry2.3098@bignews3.bellsouth.net> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 14:32:01 -0500 Bonchakrs@aol.com wrote: > jakdedert wrote: >> I've kept a cursory eye on this model on eBay for the last several >> years. It's been a month or two since I last ran my custom search: "RCA >> Trans". >> >> IME it's rare to see these go for little more than $100...maybe as much >> as $175 for really nice ones (excluding the alligator 3-BX). At the >> moment three are available, one at $611 (12 bids, 4 hours to go), >> another at $365.61 (5 bids, but 6 days until closing). The one at $295 >> BIN is not nearly as nice, and has had only one expired offer. >> Admittedly, all the bidders are relatively inexperienced. Is that it, >> or has this radio suddenly appreciated by at several hundred percent? I >> ran a completed-items search but found no comparisons. Normally when I >> run a search I get more hits. Have they become 'rare' somehow (as at >> least one of the ads intimate)? >> >> jak > > JAK: > Could not find the references you listed. Can you provide the item > numbers? I have been trying to track them also. I have the companion > 7-BX-10 in pristine condition with all original paper. Thanks. > BOB > > Sorry, a couple of inaccuracies above. I meant to say, "RCA Strato" (item & description) as my search term. Of course you could just search the model numbers: 3-BX-671, 7-BX-10, or Strato World (or strato). The quoted above usually finds most of the Stratoworlds on eBay; although I suppose some are offered that might fall through the cracks that way. One could also search "RCA portable tube" to find some of those. (Also, the 3rd Stratoworld referenced above ($295 BIN) is actually a 7-BX. The 3-BX in the OP did sell for $611, the other is holding at $356.51 with five days to go...another 7-BX in slightly ratty, but working condition just went on the block. With less than five days to go, it's at $24.95 with one bid...I'll watch that one.) By contrast, searching completed auctions on TransOceanics (search term: "Zenith Trans") seems to reveal what might be an erosion of prices, as the majority of unrestored items sold for less than $75...there were several in the $100 range, and a few restored or rare examples up to the price point in the OP for the RCA's ($600+). Of course, all this is based on the range of auctions listed within eBays search range for 'completed items'...only a month or two IIRC. I've got a 3-BX and a 7-BX, both working and in average condition (getting better appearance-wise as I get time and find trim pieces). It would be great to find a 5-BX (the rare 'alligator textured' leather version of the 3-BX) in a thrift store somewhere..... jak Article: 341044 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Speaker with torn cone References: <1156906034.411946.312510@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <7zmJg.8217$Tl4.7013@dukeread06> Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:29:50 -0400 That's right, forgot completely. Mark Oppat wrote: > Ken, Rocksea is sold out to Radiodaze.com > > I have Emerson clef decals, they are on my Zenith sheets. I also have the > Philco sheets. $6 ea postpaid. They are not on my website yet, but all my > dials and some other stuff are. > www.oldradioparts.net > > Mark Oppat > > > > "Ken" wrote in message > news:JEeJg.8185$Tl4.133@dukeread06... > >>Use Aleenes fabric glue for the rip, available at hobby stores. Rock Sea >>should have your decals, http://members.aol.com/rockseaent/ Ken >> >>Daniel Russell wrote: >> >> >>>Hi group, >>> have a speaker that needs love, it is in my Emerson. it works good but >>>looks like hell and could sound better... also need a source of good >>>decails for emerson and philco. if anyone has any info it would be >>>appreciated, >>>Thanks >>>Dan >>> >> >> > > > Article: 341045 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "L." References: <21764-44F51020-858@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1156946955.356419.305040@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <44f5aa58$0$10209$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <1156962759.914886.317920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:30:13 -0400 Message-ID: <44f5f559$0$10219$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1156962759.914886.317920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > > L. wrote: > > >> Who knows, maybe in 5 years perhaps more, we may have groups talking more >> science fiction stuff which has come to pass then............ As methods >> in >> the past have been debated, these methods are being debated, I'm sure - >> so >> too will they....... I find these talks - pro or con - quite >> invigorating. >> AND - you have to admit, they do give you food for thought to be able to >> debate it. >> >> L. > > Thanks for that. I agree it's important not to lose our sense of > wonder. > > Tox > Seriously - what do you think went through the minds of those who watched the "Wright brothers"? Many thought they were no doubt - crazy. A flying machine! NO MAN OR MACHINE CAN FLY........ What do you think went through the minds of the "Wright brothers" when they first got the notion? They probably made a lot of what appeared to be crazy drawings and perhaps models to which many would/may have scoffed at. MANY ideas were weird at their conception. Once proven usable, not so crazy anymore. I'm darned sure every inventor and scientist has faced their own moments of doubt when it came to dealing with others and trying to "project" their idea or item. I'm sure they all said at some point - "I wonder if this can be done or that can happen or what "will" happen if tried?"........... To wonder is to explore - is to open up new frontiers. L. Article: 341046 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:58:34 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <21764-44F51020-858@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1156946955.356419.305040@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <44f5aa58$0$10209$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <1156962759.914886.317920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <44f5f559$0$10219$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> In <44f5f559$0$10219$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "L." writes: >Seriously - what do you think went through the minds of those who watched >the "Wright brothers"? Many thought they were no doubt - crazy. A flying >machine! NO MAN OR MACHINE CAN FLY........ What do you think went through >the minds of the "Wright brothers" when they first got the notion? They >probably made a lot of what appeared to be crazy drawings and perhaps models >to which many would/may have scoffed at. Back then, as now, there were people who said silly things such as "Stuff can't be done!", which is about as useful as "Things happen for a reason!". Specifically, what was claimed as impossible was powered flight in a heavier-than-air machine. This gives you something to work on, based on rationale. Simply put, what the Wrights had to solve was the power to weight ratio. What they achieved whilst doing so was many more important contributions to flight. Remember, gliders had been around for a while, and indeed that's what the Wright brothers started with. They had a sound basis for their experiments, and their success was due to experimentation and keen observation of the results, coupled with brilliant insight. At no time did they attempt to rewrite the laws of physics. You're absolutely correct in the importance of dreaming. Unfortunately that's just the fun part and only the beginning. The miracles we take for granted today, and will in the future, come about only with a lot of long, hard work coupled to the back of that dream. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 341047 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "clem.law@usa.net" Subject: Is a car antenna's shield grounded at the antenna? Date: 30 Aug 2006 14:36:09 -0700 Message-ID: <1156973769.451310.111160@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> This is slightly off-topic, but it is an old vehicle! I was installing a stereo in our 1987 Dodge Van, and I happened to check the resistance from the shield of the antenna lead to chasis ground, and it was infinity. As far as I know, the antenna is original >from Chrysler. Is there supposed to be a direct DC connection at the base of the antenna? I assumed there was supposed to be. But possibly, they wanted to prevent the antenna shield from serving as a DC ground for the radio--if the radio's ground became high resistance for some reason, then most of the current would pass through the antenna shield, which would probably result in a lot of alternator whine. So I can see why you would ground the shield at that end through a capacitor, so that it's grounded for RF, but not for DC. Or maybe the shield is just broken. My new $10 stereo (bought to replace the one that was stolen) seems to work about as well as it's ever going to, so this is mostly academic curiosity. Any ideas? 73, W0IS Article: 341048 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 30 Aug 2006 14:37:58 -0700 Message-ID: <1156973878.885738.72690@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: Tim Mullen wrote: > In <44f5f559$0$10219$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "L." writes: > > >Seriously - what do you think went through the minds of those who watched > >the "Wright brothers"? Many thought they were no doubt - crazy. A flying > >machine! NO MAN OR MACHINE CAN FLY........ What do you think went through > >the minds of the "Wright brothers" when they first got the notion? They > >probably made a lot of what appeared to be crazy drawings and perhaps models > >to which many would/may have scoffed at. > > Back then, as now, there were people who said silly things such > as "Stuff can't be done!", which is about as useful as "Things happen > for a reason!". > > Specifically, what was claimed as impossible was powered flight in > a heavier-than-air machine. This gives you something to work on, based > on rationale. Simply put, what the Wrights had to solve was the power > to weight ratio. What they achieved whilst doing so was many more > important contributions to flight. > > Remember, gliders had been around for a while, and indeed that's > what the Wright brothers started with. They had a sound basis for their > experiments, and their success was due to experimentation and keen > observation of the results, coupled with brilliant insight. At no time > did they attempt to rewrite the laws of physics. > > You're absolutely correct in the importance of dreaming. Unfortunately > that's just the fun part and only the beginning. The miracles we take > for granted today, and will in the future, come about only with a lot of > long, hard work coupled to the back of that dream. I'll believe all that when I enter the stargate. Article: 341049 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: My Personal Radio Collection Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:53:15 GMT While many of you are busy cleaning your benches and taking photos, I've decided to start another thread. This one is not in the binaries, but on my website. As promised long ago, I've set up a page devoted to my personal radio collection. Compared to the thousands of valuable sets owned by some others on this list, it's certainly not much. However I indeed enjoy it, and would like to share it with others. You can go directly to the page by clicking here: http://mysite.verizon.net/caradio/collection.htm -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 341050 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Crackling Tuning Condenser Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:47:12 -0500 Message-ID: <17727-44F60760-159@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: AN LED AND BATTERY ARE INSUFFICIENT TO TEST A TUNING CAP. A PLACE I WORKED IN THE '50's HAD A 250-0-250 TRANSFORMER HOOKED UP WITH A CURRENT LIMITING RESISTOR. IT WORKED FINE UNLESS YOU PULLED YOUR HAND OUT OF YOUR POCKET. JUST LOOK FOR THE SPARKS. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 341051 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Is a car antenna's shield grounded at the antenna? Date: 30 Aug 2006 15:02:59 -0700 Message-ID: <1156975379.603507.327510@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156973769.451310.111160@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> clem.law@usa.net wrote: > This is slightly off-topic, but it is an old vehicle! > > I was installing a stereo in our 1987 Dodge Van, and I happened to > check the resistance from the shield of the antenna lead to chasis > ground, and it was infinity. As far as I know, the antenna is original > from Chrysler. > > Is there supposed to be a direct DC connection at the base of the > antenna? Is it a power antenna? THAT refers to the motor assy that raises and lowers the antenna height, nothing else. If you have an open line it's not apparently uncommon to have that line bad from the start. My mom never did fix the problem in the family Grand Prix before I inherited it, therefore I had no DX and any local area station that changed the pattern and power that was 5 kw or less tended to go away. FM was weaker than expected, but fine. Having had a rear antenna mount and a power antenna and having heard the cost for the dealer to mess with what they weren't fully sure of meant I left it alone. Pontiac had chosen to install an ignition switch without an accessory position so I didn't really care to run the entire thing minus the engine AFAIK and it was harder on the battery that way. Otherwise if you're open all the way through, which I doubt, I would try removing the mount first to observe if the cable is loose or corroded, then look at the cable. > I assumed there was supposed to be. But possibly, they wanted to > prevent the antenna shield from serving as a DC ground for the > radio--if the radio's ground became high resistance for some reason, > then most of the current would pass through the antenna shield, which > would probably result in a lot of alternator whine. So I can see why > you would ground the shield at that end through a capacitor, so that > it's grounded for RF, but not for DC. Okay, now I look and have to see if you have a line in the windshield itself? Look for water/corrosion around the edge where the antenna connects to the dashboard wiring. > Or maybe the shield is just broken. > > My new $10 stereo (bought to replace the one that was stolen) seems to > work about as well as it's ever going to, so this is mostly academic > curiosity. If you are using an aftermarket stereo, any DC to the antenna motor would be missing if you don't have that provided by the new stereo. A pinout diagram of the old model would help...do you already have a Haynes or Chilton manual for your model? Look in that. > > Any ideas? A trip to the partsyard would be fun. Article: 341052 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: bc191f@gmail.com Subject: Re: Emerson model LP Date: 30 Aug 2006 15:20:20 -0700 Message-ID: <1156976420.334333.163930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1156938465.286017.237660@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> jim menning wrote: > wrote in message > news:1156938465.286017.237660@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > > If interest, can post pic on web site. > > > Don't be teasing us, 4 pictures at http://qsl.asti.net/Sonara_LP/P8300012.JPG http://qsl.asti.net/Sonara_LP/P8300013.JPG http://qsl.asti.net/Sonara_LP/P8300014.JPG http://qsl.asti.net/Sonara_LP/P8300015.JPG Article: 341053 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <8a5Jg.3714$nR2.408@trnddc03> <1156907244.346571.139700@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5O-dndpiNOYd9GjZnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com> <1156935720.525632.255740@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <2KCdnRo8lJdl7GjZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com> <1156955769.799846.72180@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:28:05 -0400 Message-ID: That part on a cartridge is called the "Bridge" . The needle rests in it. I have many many NOS carts that are useless due to the bridge having hardened. damn! If someone was crafty, you could take the cart apart (ala our pal Syl) and make a new bridge somehow out of what? rubber sheet that is 1/32 thick or so? But, then the internals would break anyways... so, just send it to SYL!!! Mark Oppat wrote in message news:1156955769.799846.72180@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com... > > William Sommerwerck wrote: > > > Not a needle issue -- it seems to be the tiny rubber thingy > > > inside that the needle rests in that's attached to the elements. > > > > That thingy provides both compliance and damping. It gradually dries out, so > > it's no surprise the pickup's sound isn't right. > > I know what it does, I just don't know what it's called. It's still > soft and pliable; I've been poking and prodding it with a toothpick. > That helped for a short while, then it slipped back into whatever > position was making it screech. I think what's happened here is that > it's melted ever-so-slightly and gone just a tiny bit out of shape over > the years, probably now making contact with the cartridge shell. It > did seem stuck to the shell when I poked it. It would also explain why > only one side of each cartridge is affected - depending on which way it > was turned during disuse... > > Good news: I may have found one online under a different mfr and model > number. Wish me luck! ;-) > > Gerry > > Article: 341054 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <4HlJg.11445$ry2.3098@bignews3.bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: What's happened (RCA 3-BX-671)? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:32:25 -0400 Message-ID: Jak, yeah the alligator version is indeed RARE I think. I have only seen a couple in many years. The regular cowhide versions are not that rare at all, and I think better radios than the TO's at least in fidelity (I like rotational bass & treble controls much better than the tone switches on the Zeniths!). Better than those two are the Hallicrafters, which has a 4x 6" speaker (TW1000 or TW2000 I think they were). Mark Oppat "jakdedert" wrote in message news:4HlJg.11445$ry2.3098@bignews3.bellsouth.net... > Bonchakrs@aol.com wrote: > > jakdedert wrote: > >> I've kept a cursory eye on this model on eBay for the last several > >> years. It's been a month or two since I last ran my custom search: "RCA > >> Trans". > >> > >> IME it's rare to see these go for little more than $100...maybe as much > >> as $175 for really nice ones (excluding the alligator 3-BX). At the > >> moment three are available, one at $611 (12 bids, 4 hours to go), > >> another at $365.61 (5 bids, but 6 days until closing). The one at $295 > >> BIN is not nearly as nice, and has had only one expired offer. > >> Admittedly, all the bidders are relatively inexperienced. Is that it, > >> or has this radio suddenly appreciated by at several hundred percent? I > >> ran a completed-items search but found no comparisons. Normally when I > >> run a search I get more hits. Have they become 'rare' somehow (as at > >> least one of the ads intimate)? > >> > >> jak > > > > JAK: > > Could not find the references you listed. Can you provide the item > > numbers? I have been trying to track them also. I have the companion > > 7-BX-10 in pristine condition with all original paper. Thanks. > > BOB > > > > > Sorry, a couple of inaccuracies above. I meant to say, "RCA Strato" > (item & description) as my search term. Of course you could just search > the model numbers: 3-BX-671, 7-BX-10, or Strato World (or strato). The > quoted above usually finds most of the Stratoworlds on eBay; although I > suppose some are offered that might fall through the cracks that way. > One could also search "RCA portable tube" to find some of those. > > (Also, the 3rd Stratoworld referenced above ($295 BIN) is actually a > 7-BX. The 3-BX in the OP did sell for $611, the other is holding at > $356.51 with five days to go...another 7-BX in slightly ratty, but > working condition just went on the block. With less than five days to > go, it's at $24.95 with one bid...I'll watch that one.) > > By contrast, searching completed auctions on TransOceanics (search term: > "Zenith Trans") seems to reveal what might be an erosion of prices, as > the majority of unrestored items sold for less than $75...there were > several in the $100 range, and a few restored or rare examples up to the > price point in the OP for the RCA's ($600+). > > Of course, all this is based on the range of auctions listed within > eBays search range for 'completed items'...only a month or two IIRC. > > I've got a 3-BX and a 7-BX, both working and in average condition > (getting better appearance-wise as I get time and find trim pieces). It > would be great to find a 5-BX (the rare 'alligator textured' leather > version of the 3-BX) in a thrift store somewhere..... > > jak > > Article: 341055 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 17:37:15 -0500 Message-ID: <1975-44F6131B-127@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: <1156958997.404031.11620@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Now take for instance,a bunch of powerfull permanent magnets.Perhaps the magnets are thumb size or larger and they each have a hole completely through the sides of the magnets (let me reach in my fridge right quick for a ''cold one'' so I can think this out) all the way through.(picture drilling a hole all the way through the side of a sewing thread spool) All of those magnets are mounted of something round about the size/diameter of a small car engine flywheel and the flywheel has some short spokes on it and the magnets are mounted so as they each can flip flop.All of that assembly is mounted inside of a ring which has stationary magnets mounted on the inside surface of the ring and there is a surface with upward facing stationary cams (sort of like the cams on a camshaft) on the ring just below the magnets. As the ''thumb magnets'' spin the flywheel around,the the cams give the ''thumb magnets'' a kick so as to move the north and south poles of the ''thumb magnets'' every one opposing the stationary poles of the magnets in the ring.I apologize if I haven't made this explanation clear enough.(yes,I realize it is another nutty idea of mine) Back to my ''cold one'' now and I will turn the table over to y'all. cuhulin Article: 341056 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1156938465.286017.237660@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1156976420.334333.163930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Emerson model LP Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:54:19 GMT wrote in message news:1156976420.334333.163930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > jim menning wrote: >> wrote in message >> news:1156938465.286017.237660@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> > >> > If interest, can post pic on web site. >> > > >> Don't be teasing us, > > 4 pictures at > > http://qsl.asti.net/Sonara_LP/P8300012.JPG > http://qsl.asti.net/Sonara_LP/P8300013.JPG > http://qsl.asti.net/Sonara_LP/P8300014.JPG > http://qsl.asti.net/Sonara_LP/P8300015.JPG > No wonder I never heard of an Emerson model LP. jim menning Article: 341057 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: My Personal Radio Collection Date: 30 Aug 2006 15:58:39 -0700 Message-ID: <1156978719.068467.186340@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Gary Tayman wrote: > While many of you are busy cleaning your benches and taking photos, I've > decided to start another thread. This one is not in the binaries, but on my > website. As promised long ago, I've set up a page devoted to my personal > radio collection. > > Compared to the thousands of valuable sets owned by some others on this > list, it's certainly not much. However I indeed enjoy it, and would like to > share it with others. > > You can go directly to the page by clicking here: > > http://mysite.verizon.net/caradio/collection.htm Only one tiny nitpick. Allied and Radio Shack did merge, but as I understand the FTC tore the merger apart. I am not sure what happened to Allied at the time. Radio Shack was afterward taken over by Tandy Corporation, which had the vision to create what was possibly the most popular product the company ever sold: the Tandy Computers TRS-80 line. If you have one thing to complain about concerning the current company, remember that the lines they sell today were heavily influenced by that revolutionary entry priced computer that allowed businesses to run business operations at under 3000 dollars, and much cheaper than other systems as well as possibly better that using a PC of the period. The Color Computer was a neat deal and had industry leading graphics that game writers liked as well as gamers. When the TRS line slipped away, it was already too prohibitive to replace it when x86 was already so advanced, and that's how the vendor idea must have been born. It turned out to be a profitable one (sorta), and now they close stores that have become high in overhead to them. Is the electronics hobby moving in the opposite direction than RS? Have these products just veered away from the evolutional needs of the average RS customer? I don't know about the O&O stores, but the two co-owned franchises I deal with are at least trying their best even if I can't find much. Article: 341058 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 30 Aug 2006 16:00:50 -0700 Message-ID: <1156978850.412328.208530@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1156958997.404031.11620@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > Now take for instance,a bunch of powerfull permanent magnets.Perhaps the > magnets are thumb size or larger and they each have a hole completely > through the sides of the magnets (let me reach in my fridge right quick > for a ''cold one'' so I can think this out) all the way through.(picture > drilling a hole all the way through the side of a sewing thread spool) > > All of those magnets are mounted of something round about the > size/diameter of a small car engine flywheel and the flywheel has some > short spokes on it and the magnets are mounted so as they each can flip > flop.All of that assembly is mounted inside of a ring which has > stationary magnets mounted on the inside surface of the ring and there > is a surface with upward facing stationary cams (sort of like the cams > on a camshaft) on the ring just below the magnets. > > As the ''thumb magnets'' spin the flywheel around,the the cams give the > ''thumb magnets'' a kick so as to move the north and south poles of the > ''thumb magnets'' every one opposing the stationary poles of the magnets > in the ring.I apologize if I haven't made this explanation clear > enough.(yes,I realize it is another nutty idea of mine) Back to my > ''cold one'' now and I will turn the table over to y'all. > cuhulin Turn the table...did you just try to explain "direct drive"? Article: 341059 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? END Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:03:11 -0400 Message-ID: <12fc6b0aerav24c@news.supernews.com> References: <10288-44F4C710-951@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <1156940856.280699.78320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> OK boys, between beating this subject to death and beating on the trolls, haven't you gotten this out of your systems yet? If you think it's entertaining, think again. Remember, this is called rec.antiques.radio+phono PLEASE STOP IT NOW (or you'll be sorry when your father gets home!) Article: 341060 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave McClellan" References: Subject: Re: My Personal Radio Collection Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:13:15 -0400 Well, here's another collection: http://mcclellans.com/NewRadiosPage.htm "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:fNnJg.5414$p23.3849@trnddc04... > While many of you are busy cleaning your benches and taking photos, I've > decided to start another thread. This one is not in the binaries, but on my > website. As promised long ago, I've set up a page devoted to my personal > radio collection. > > Compared to the thousands of valuable sets owned by some others on this > list, it's certainly not much. However I indeed enjoy it, and would like to > share it with others. > > You can go directly to the page by clicking here: > > http://mysite.verizon.net/caradio/collection.htm > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > Article: 341061 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1156958997.404031.11620@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1975-44F6131B-127@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:25:33 GMT I see your concept, and can tell you immediately that it will not work. The reason it will not work is simple: you are not turning the magnets on and off, but moving them towards and away. If you "push" a magnet into a pole, for the purpose of causing the pole magnet to move away from it, you may indeed succeed in pushing the pole away -- but you will use at least as much energy to push your magnet into place. What needs to be done is provide a "shield" of some sort, to block the magnetic field while using LESS energy than would be generated by the poles moving as a result. But physically moving a shield into place also takes as much energy as would be generated. Yet another concept would be to put a thin electromagnetic pole in front of the permanent magnet, where electrical energy would not be used to power the motor, but to block the field of the permanent magnets, and thus using the energy of the permanent magnets to drive the motor. Although this would work in concept, once again, the electricity absorbed in blocking the magnetic field is still more than the energy created when the magnetic field is being blocked. The trick -- what needs to be done -- is to somehow find a way to block the magnetic field, but by a means other than using similar energy to counter it. The concept of a grid in a tube comes to mind, where a slight voltage can control a much larger amount of current. Another concept would be similar to a water wheel -- now there's a "perpetual motion" machine we already have, that runs, indirectly, on the sun's heat. The sun makes the water evaporate, then combine the droplets into rain, etc. The result is a stream of water, whose gravitational energy is harnessed for the purpose of running a grist mill. The gravity of the water on one side of the wheel turns it, while the other side, with no water, is lighter. Again, if a permanent magnet's field can be used to pull other magnets toward it, without eating up the same energy to pull these same magnets back away from it, you can turn a wheel with it's energy. The key is in the ability to switch, or control, the energy of the magnets -- or of gravity, which is yet another form of unswitchable energy. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:1975-44F6131B-127@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net... > Now take for instance,a bunch of powerfull permanent magnets.Perhaps the > magnets are thumb size or larger and they each have a hole completely > through the sides of the magnets (let me reach in my fridge right quick > for a ''cold one'' so I can think this out) all the way through.(picture > drilling a hole all the way through the side of a sewing thread spool) > > All of those magnets are mounted of something round about the > size/diameter of a small car engine flywheel and the flywheel has some > short spokes on it and the magnets are mounted so as they each can flip > flop.All of that assembly is mounted inside of a ring which has > stationary magnets mounted on the inside surface of the ring and there > is a surface with upward facing stationary cams (sort of like the cams > on a camshaft) on the ring just below the magnets. > > As the ''thumb magnets'' spin the flywheel around,the the cams give the > ''thumb magnets'' a kick so as to move the north and south poles of the > ''thumb magnets'' every one opposing the stationary poles of the magnets > in the ring.I apologize if I haven't made this explanation clear > enough.(yes,I realize it is another nutty idea of mine) Back to my > ''cold one'' now and I will turn the table over to y'all. > cuhulin > Article: 341062 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <8a5Jg.3714$nR2.408@trnddc03> <1156907244.346571.139700@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5O-dndpiNOYd9GjZnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com> <1156935720.525632.255740@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <2KCdnRo8lJdl7GjZnZ2dnUVZ_tudnZ2d@comcast.com> <1156955769.799846.72180@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:38:41 -0700 Message-ID: > That part on a cartridge is called the "Bridge". The needle [sic] > rests in it. Not so. If it were soft and compliant, it wouldn't work. It's sometimes also called a "resolver". Article: 341063 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William Sommerwerck" References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <8a5Jg.3714$nR2.408@trnddc03> <1156907244.346571.139700@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5O-dndpiNOYd9GjZnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 16:39:55 -0700 Message-ID: > Micro Touch 2G, what a joke. Essentially a cheap ceramic cartridge that > couldn't begin to track properly at 2 grams, floating on a spring (what was > the point of that?) at the end of a VM tonearm. The spring provided the tracking force (I think), and also provided some bounce protection. The pickup might very well have tracked properly 40 years ago. Article: 341064 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: FA: 1964 GE P990-A 'WORLD MONITOR' SHORT WAVE RADIO MULTI BAND Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:10:37 -0400 Message-ID: <12fca82f3ar5cbb@news.supernews.com> References: <1156801120.672205.242310@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156917637.783095.98770@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> "jim menning" wrote in message news:C3hJg.87$qb2.71@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > > jtoth624@gmail.com wrote: >> >> For auction is a nice vintage working 1964 GE P990-A "World Monitor" >> multi-band radio. The only issue with it is the FM antenna "retaining >> clip" issue that plagues many of these units but is in nice shape all >> around. Both antennas are perfect with no kinks or crimps and all >> features, bands and controls work fine. Have a look, it's a nice radio! >> > > > Condition: > Excellent condition as shown! > > Really? The only issue is the antenna clip? > > Why is the stitching all coming apart? Where is the original brown > handle? Why is it so filthy and dusty? The antenna is broken. There is > obvious rust on the hardware and connections on the back. The leather is > all dried out and brittle. The leather, the grill, and the rest of the > radio is all scuffed up. How musty does it smell? Is the inside as rusty > as the hardware on the back of the radio would indicate? > > jim menning Well, apart those minor little things, it's fine. You're being picky, jim. :) > Article: 341065 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? END? Only here, after 160 more posts! Date: 30 Aug 2006 17:16:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1156983361.000658.41100@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Buck Frobisher wrote: > OK boys, between beating this subject to death and beating on the trolls, > haven't you gotten this out of your systems yet? > > If you think it's entertaining, think again. Remember, this is called > rec.antiques.radio+phono > > PLEASE STOP IT NOW (or you'll be sorry when your father gets home!) I never saw any trolls,don't own a trolling engine nor a bass boat. I saw a lot of PMS (Puffed-up moaning shit) sufferers posing as group members, and Anti-Dinius the 6-foot tall rabbit (that's taller than I am). My father isn't concerned what I do online, he figures I AM 40. He is correct. Article: 341066 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: FA: 1964 GE P990-A 'WORLD MONITOR' SHORT WAVE RADIO MULTI BAND Date: 30 Aug 2006 17:20:52 -0700 Message-ID: <1156983652.799529.306620@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1156801120.672205.242310@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> RapidRonnie wrote: Do you: 1) Know how to edit a cut and paste item? 2) See item 1. Article: 341067 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Another eBay marketing ploy? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 20:23:44 -0400 I have gotten several eBay emails telling me my 'watched item' has been relisted, and I wasn't watching them. Anyone else getting these? Ken Article: 341068 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: My Personal Radio Collection Date: 30 Aug 2006 17:28:52 -0700 Message-ID: <1156984132.633209.119470@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> References: Dave McClellan wrote: > Well, here's another collection: > http://mcclellans.com/NewRadiosPage.htm That was a pretty dress on the mannequin. Small story in that? Impressive collection overall. Article: 341069 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: 30 Aug 2006 17:32:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1156984344.470795.23250@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: Ken wrote: > I have gotten several eBay emails telling me my 'watched item' has been > relisted, and I wasn't watching them. Anyone else getting these? Ken Why don't you go to the 'boards' or ask eBay themselves? It sounds like a script problem as much as a potential security exploit. BTW, I have seen actual relisted items and I suspect it could also be related to the routine that finds simmilar items to the one you just lost. Article: 341070 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:49:14 -0500 Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 From: John Stone Message-ID: References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <8a5Jg.3714$nR2.408@trnddc03> <1156907244.346571.139700@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5O-dndpiNOYd9GjZnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com> On 8/30/06 6:39 PM, in article rvydnWEino5RvGvZnZ2dnUVZ_v-dnZ2d@comcast.com, "William Sommerwerck" wrote: >> Micro Touch 2G, what a joke. Essentially a cheap ceramic cartridge that >> couldn't begin to track properly at 2 grams, floating on a spring (what > was >> the point of that?) at the end of a VM tonearm. > > The spring provided the tracking force (I think), and also provided some > bounce protection. No, the tracking force was provided by the arm. The spring on the cartridge decoupled the cartridge from the arm vertically, meaning that at best it would absorb some of the arm's mechanical inertia in a warp. That's about it. I can just imagine the mechanical noises being generated by the flexing of that spring right against the stylus support shaft. And the whole design flies in the face of the importance of having a good solid mount between cartridge and arm. > > The pickup might very well have tracked properly 40 years ago. > Doubtful. The cartridge on the one I worked on seemed fine with no hardening in the bridge. I installed a brand new (old stock) stylus, and the rubber bushing on it was soft. The VM arm bearing itself isn't low enough in friction and I remember you could always see substantial horizontal deflection of that long cantilever. Given the stylus was conical, a little extra tracking force really would be ok. I increased it to about 3 grams and gained a considerable tracking improvement. The Microtouch 2G was basically a consumer grade changer with a gimmick. Nothing more. None of those Zenith/VM's was ever on the level of even the cheapest Dual. Article: 341071 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: My Personal Radio Collection Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 00:50:46 GMT Yes, you've got quite an impressive little museum there! Like I said in my message and on my web page, my collection is not nearly as impressive as those of others . . . but it makes me happy and I want to share it anyway. I enjoy seeing ALL of these collections, big and small! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Dave McClellan" wrote in message news:SYoJg.9$pe2.0@newsfe05.lga... > Well, here's another collection: > http://mcclellans.com/NewRadiosPage.htm > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:fNnJg.5414$p23.3849@trnddc04... >> While many of you are busy cleaning your benches and taking photos, I've >> decided to start another thread. This one is not in the binaries, but on > my >> website. As promised long ago, I've set up a page devoted to my personal >> radio collection. >> >> Compared to the thousands of valuable sets owned by some others on this >> list, it's certainly not much. However I indeed enjoy it, and would like > to >> share it with others. >> >> You can go directly to the page by clicking here: >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/caradio/collection.htm >> >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> > > Article: 341072 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 30 Aug 2006 18:04:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1156986241.861690.293140@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> suiniD-itnA wrote: > > Kan uw darmen bloat en u een dichtbijgelegen doodservaring nog in > zakken niet geven intensiteit terwijl u vergeefs wacht te sterven. Dat > is koele? Your attemps to seem clever and witty always fail. You may want to try dazzling them with brilliance because trying to baffle 'em with bull**** always make you look like a fool in this group. Article: 341073 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Anyone know the McAdam 2000 tester? Please HELP me find a manual? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:06:23 -0400 Message-ID: <12fcdgia621u5b5@news.supernews.com> I've had this thing since the year Gimmel, but do you think I can find a manual for it? I think of it as the Swiss Army knife of audio test gear. The McAdam Tester was a hot item in the '70s for audio repair shops, since you had a lot of stuff in one box. Well, one LARGE box, and heavy too, I might add. But you could test an amplifier on the spot to see if it was performing up to snuff, and see the waveform too. Digital too, as the panel text says. The last picture shows how. Nixie tubes! Built in sig gen, scope, variac, this puppy is loaded. The only thing it doesn't have is a manual. I know there was one for it, I saw one, maybe 25 years ago. But it disappeared into the misty shrouds of time, well before I could get my hands on it.. If ANYONE knows where I could find one, I would very much appreciate it. Pictures on the binaries... cheers and big ears, Frank Article: 341074 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? END? Only here, after 160 more posts! Date: 30 Aug 2006 18:08:36 -0700 Message-ID: <1156986516.019009.198940@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: >My father isn't concerned what I do online > He'd be embarassed if he was. You're making a fool of yourself again. Your dopey post served no purpose whatsoever. Article: 341075 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ken Doyle" References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <8a5Jg.3714$nR2.408@trnddc03> <1156907244.346571.139700@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <5O-dndpiNOYd9GjZnZ2dnUVZ_tadnZ2d@comcast.com> <1156935720.525632.255740@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:11:06 -0400 Message-ID: I wouldn't put a plug-in cartridge in it. They track too heavy for this application and the frequency response is too limited. The Astatic 133 is a good ceramic cartridge for replacement in better sets like Zenith and Magnavox consoles. But, I bet Ed Saunders has a replacement for yours: http://www.ewsaunders.com/ Ken D. wrote: > The cartridge, an Electro-Voice 2604, wasn't working properly. The Lp > side played fine, while the 78 side didn't. I tried another, pulled > from another Cobra-Matic, and it has the opposite problem: Lp side > doesn't play properly, but the 78 side does. The Lp side sounds down > right screechy compared to the other one. Not a needle issue - it > seems to be the tiny rubber thingee inside that the needle rests in > that's attached to the elements. In the process of swapping the > cartridge out, one of the terminal pins just snapped right off. Can't > find another to replace it with either. I did see somewhere that an > Astatic 133 cartridge is often used as a replacement, but it's a > crystal cartridge, I believe, and I'm not sure how that would perform. > Could also use an Astatic 13T (all-in-one plug-in needle/cartridge > combo), but they don't have quite the frequency response I like. > Plenty of bass, but they tend to cut the higher frequencies. I'd love > to keep it original, but like I said the Electro-Voice cartridge just > doesn't seem to be available anywhere, new or used. Any > recommendations for a suitable replacement that will fit the > Cobra-Matic and sound resonably good? > Article: 341076 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Ken Doyle" References: Subject: Re: RCA automobile 45 changer? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:20:40 -0400 Message-ID: The changer was made by RCA, then they sold it to ARC. The changer is well made and easily serviced except for the crummy little brush motor that drives the whole thing. These phonos go for a lot of money on eBay, hundreds of dollars for untested units. Ken D. "Pin Geek" wrote in message news:X8OdnVD7X7377GnZnZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Hi all, > A while back on Ebay I saw a flyer with Steve Allen on it for some kind of > RCA 45 record changer for your car. I think there was just one model made > and they scrapped it. Well, a buddy of mine wants one for a vintage car he > is restoring. Do these exist anywhere? Any leads on one would be most > greatly appreciated. I think dead or alive is acceptable. Are they hard to > repair? > > Any leads, PLEASE email me at pingeek@pingeek.com > > Thanks, > Josh > http://www.pingeek.com > Get your pinball show dvds here: > http://www.thepinballshow.com > > > Article: 341077 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Warren Weber" References: Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:39:42 -0600 Message-ID: "Ken" wrote in message news:p_pJg.8227$Tl4.5854@dukeread06... >I have gotten several eBay emails telling me my 'watched item' has been >relisted, and I wasn't watching them. Anyone else getting these? Ken > Ken I get a lot of weird ones also. I send these on to spoof@ebay.com and Ebay checks them out and replies. Usually it is some one that is not reregistered with Ebay. Warren Article: 341078 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Warren Weber" References: Subject: Re: My Personal Radio Collection Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 19:44:43 -0600 Message-ID: "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:fNnJg.5414$p23.3849@trnddc04... > While many of you are busy cleaning your benches and taking photos, I've > decided to start another thread. This one is not in the binaries, but on > my website. As promised long ago, I've set up a page devoted to my > personal radio collection. > > Compared to the thousands of valuable sets owned by some others on this > list, it's certainly not much. However I indeed enjoy it, and would like > to share it with others. > > You can go directly to the page by clicking here: > > http://mysite.verizon.net/caradio/collection.htm > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > >Gary.. I cannibalized an AK similar to yours as a kid to use the parts. >(sigh). Also sold my 1956 T bird for $1700. Double (sigh) Article: 341079 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: bc191f@gmail.com Subject: Sonora Model LP Date: 30 Aug 2006 18:55:04 -0700 Message-ID: <1156989304.689066.112220@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> This is a neat 3-way portable with 7-pin miniatures. Rectifier is 45Z3 Front cover houses loop & looks catalin. No pix or references in Bunis or Slusser. Found one with trashed back & was otherwise OK. Anyone else seen one? Rider 14 dates dwg 5/41. 1st ever 3-way portable w. all miniatures? Didn't beat RCA BP10 to market did it? One pal sez Zenith PocketRadio did 4 pictures at front with clover closed: http://qsl.asti.net/Sonara_LP/P8300012.JPG front with cover raised: http://qsl.asti.net/Sonara_LP/P8300013.JPG back: http://qsl.asti.net/Sonara_LP/P8300014.JPG back with front cover raised: http://qsl.asti.net/Sonara_LP/P8300015.JPG Thanks Marty ...apollogies to Jim Menning & community. This 1st listed as a Emerson LP Article: 341080 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: James Sweet Subject: Re: Help on first Zenith 9-S-262 Restore - Dial Pointer? Springs? References: <1156895028.393210.24220@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:03:03 GMT > > You won't find a good 6T5 worth buying unless you pay over a hundred. > 6U5 works well. > > What's so special about the 6T5? What makes it different than many other similar looking eye tubes? At over a hundred bucks a pop, one would think someone would be building batches of reproductions by now. Article: 341081 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "L." References: <21764-44F51020-858@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1156946955.356419.305040@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <44f5aa58$0$10209$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <1156962759.914886.317920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <44f5f559$0$10219$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:05:01 -0400 Message-ID: <44f643d0$0$10201$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:ed4u5q$il2$1@reader2.panix.com... > In <44f5f559$0$10219$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "L." > writes: > >>Seriously - what do you think went through the minds of those who watched >>the "Wright brothers"? Many thought they were no doubt - crazy. A flying >>machine! NO MAN OR MACHINE CAN FLY........ What do you think went through >>the minds of the "Wright brothers" when they first got the notion? They >>probably made a lot of what appeared to be crazy drawings and perhaps >>models >>to which many would/may have scoffed at. > > Back then, as now, there were people who said silly things such > as "Stuff can't be done!", which is about as useful as "Things happen > for a reason!". > > Specifically, what was claimed as impossible was powered flight in > a heavier-than-air machine. This gives you something to work on, based > on rationale. Simply put, what the Wrights had to solve was the power > to weight ratio. What they achieved whilst doing so was many more > important contributions to flight. > > Remember, gliders had been around for a while, and indeed that's > what the Wright brothers started with. They had a sound basis for their > experiments, and their success was due to experimentation and keen > observation of the results, coupled with brilliant insight. At no time > did they attempt to rewrite the laws of physics. > > You're absolutely correct in the importance of dreaming. Unfortunately > that's just the fun part and only the beginning. The miracles we take > for granted today, and will in the future, come about only with a lot of > long, hard work coupled to the back of that dream. > > -- > Tim Mullen > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. > ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Agreed! L. Article: 341082 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: RCA Radiola 8x? From: Your Name Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:08:04 GMT Hi. I have an RCA Radiola amp unit (Power supply, Power transformer, reactor, 80 tube, two 45's in Push-Pull, etc... Field coil is missing) whose schematic (from Nostalgia Air) is practically identical to unit I have. The big difference from the schematic is the terminal strip on the amp unit I have has 8 terminal connections whereas the schematic only has 5 terminal connections. Perhaps someone can identify the unit if it is not the Radiola 80, 82 or 86 on the Nostalgia Air website? Or explain which terminals do what (from past experience). I know that terminals 1 & 2 connect to the tube heaters as the wires are much thicker than the other wires, they run through a wireloom (so to speak) back to other end of the amp (by the power transformer) to a wirewound, 55ohm, tapped resistor as in the schematic >from Nostalgia Air and a voltmeter reads 2.7 volts at the terminals 1 & 2. Any help would be much appreciated. Article: 341083 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: RCA Radiola 8x? From: Your Name References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:16:07 GMT Your Name wrote in news:Xns982FE136E5309youremailyouremailco@130.81.64.196: > whose schematic (from Nostalgia Air) Sorry, this would be the schematics for the Radiola 80, 82 & 86. Article: 341084 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1156895028.393210.24220@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Help on first Zenith 9-S-262 Restore - Dial Pointer? Springs? 6T5 Questions Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:17:14 GMT "James Sweet" wrote in message news:rrrJg.5457$N84.1182@trnddc08... > >> >> You won't find a good 6T5 worth buying unless you pay over a hundred. >> 6U5 works well. >> > > > What's so special about the 6T5? What makes it different than many other similar > looking eye tubes? > > At over a hundred bucks a pop, one would think someone would be building batches of > reproductions by now. The 6T5 shows a bulls-eye pattern rather than the familiar pie shaped image from other eye tubes. http://www.jogis-roehrenbude.de/Roehren-Geschichtliches/Mag_Augen/Mag_Augen2/6T5.htm jim menning Article: 341085 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: RCA Radiola 8x? Message-ID: <0GrJg.117$qb2.69@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:18:36 GMT "Your Name" wrote in message news:Xns982FE136E5309youremailyouremailco@130.81.64.196... > Hi. > > I have an RCA Radiola amp unit (Power supply, Power transformer, reactor, > 80 tube, two 45's in Push-Pull, etc... Field coil is missing) whose > schematic (from Nostalgia Air) is practically identical to unit I have. > > The big difference from the schematic is the terminal strip on the amp unit > I have has 8 terminal connections whereas the schematic only has 5 terminal > connections. > > Perhaps someone can identify the unit if it is not the Radiola 80, 82 or 86 > on the Nostalgia Air website? Or explain which terminals do what (from > past experience). I know that terminals 1 & 2 connect to the tube heaters > as the wires are much thicker than the other wires, they run through a > wireloom (so to speak) back to other end of the amp (by the power > transformer) to a wirewound, 55ohm, tapped resistor as in the schematic > from Nostalgia Air and a voltmeter reads 2.7 volts at the terminals 1 & 2. > > Any help would be much appreciated. Can you post pictures somewhere for us to see? jim menning Article: 341086 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: What's happened (RCA 3-BX-671)? References: <4HlJg.11445$ry2.3098@bignews3.bellsouth.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 21:24:13 -0500 Mark Oppat wrote: > Jak, > yeah the alligator version is indeed RARE I think. I have only seen a > couple in many years. The regular cowhide versions are not that rare at > all, and I think better radios than the TO's at least in fidelity (I like > rotational bass & treble controls much better than the tone switches on the > Zeniths!). > Better than those two are the Hallicrafters, which has a 4x 6" speaker > (TW1000 or TW2000 I think they were). I like mine, but I had an emotional attachment with the 7-BX which led me to collect them. I've got the TW1000, but it's still a display piece. I haven't powered it up since I bought it from a regular poster here. My interest was in what had happened to the prices...or are these three examples anomalies? I mean, as much as I like them, I wouldn't pay $611 for one...in almost any condition (maybe new in a sealed shipping carton?). I've only seen pictures of the 'gator.... jak > > Mark Oppat > > "jakdedert" wrote in message > news:4HlJg.11445$ry2.3098@bignews3.bellsouth.net... >> Bonchakrs@aol.com wrote: >> > jakdedert wrote: >> >> I've kept a cursory eye on this model on eBay for the last several >> >> years. It's been a month or two since I last ran my custom search: > "RCA >> >> Trans". >> >> >> >> IME it's rare to see these go for little more than $100...maybe as > much >> >> as $175 for really nice ones (excluding the alligator 3-BX). At the >> >> moment three are available, one at $611 (12 bids, 4 hours to go), >> >> another at $365.61 (5 bids, but 6 days until closing). The one at > $295 >> >> BIN is not nearly as nice, and has had only one expired offer. >> >> Admittedly, all the bidders are relatively inexperienced. Is that it, >> >> or has this radio suddenly appreciated by at several hundred percent? > I >> >> ran a completed-items search but found no comparisons. Normally when > I >> >> run a search I get more hits. Have they become 'rare' somehow (as at >> >> least one of the ads intimate)? >> >> >> >> jak >> > >> > JAK: >> > Could not find the references you listed. Can you provide the item >> > numbers? I have been trying to track them also. I have the companion >> > 7-BX-10 in pristine condition with all original paper. Thanks. >> > BOB >> > >> > >> Sorry, a couple of inaccuracies above. I meant to say, "RCA Strato" >> (item & description) as my search term. Of course you could just search >> the model numbers: 3-BX-671, 7-BX-10, or Strato World (or strato). The >> quoted above usually finds most of the Stratoworlds on eBay; although I >> suppose some are offered that might fall through the cracks that way. >> One could also search "RCA portable tube" to find some of those. >> >> (Also, the 3rd Stratoworld referenced above ($295 BIN) is actually a >> 7-BX. The 3-BX in the OP did sell for $611, the other is holding at >> $356.51 with five days to go...another 7-BX in slightly ratty, but >> working condition just went on the block. With less than five days to >> go, it's at $24.95 with one bid...I'll watch that one.) >> >> By contrast, searching completed auctions on TransOceanics (search term: >> "Zenith Trans") seems to reveal what might be an erosion of prices, as >> the majority of unrestored items sold for less than $75...there were >> several in the $100 range, and a few restored or rare examples up to the >> price point in the OP for the RCA's ($600+). >> >> Of course, all this is based on the range of auctions listed within >> eBays search range for 'completed items'...only a month or two IIRC. >> >> I've got a 3-BX and a 7-BX, both working and in average condition >> (getting better appearance-wise as I get time and find trim pieces). It >> would be great to find a 5-BX (the rare 'alligator textured' leather >> version of the 3-BX) in a thrift store somewhere..... >> >> jak >> >> > > > > Article: 341087 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:34:24 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Warren Weber" wrote in message news:lMCdnQDegeNaoGvZnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@bresnan.com... > > "Ken" wrote in message > news:p_pJg.8227$Tl4.5854@dukeread06... >>I have gotten several eBay emails telling me my 'watched item' has been >>relisted, and I wasn't watching them. Anyone else getting these? Ken >> > Ken I get a lot of weird ones also. I send these on to spoof@ebay.com > and Ebay checks them out and replies. Usually it is some one that is not > reregistered with Ebay. Warren > My personal favorites are the current run of "I don't know what your scam is.... " saying that they bought and paid for my Dell laptop computer.. never mind I've never owned one TO sell. :) Article: 341088 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "L." References: Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:39:01 -0400 Message-ID: <44f64bc9$0$10208$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:ed5hkn$d7f$1@news2.kornet.net... > > > "Warren Weber" wrote in message > news:lMCdnQDegeNaoGvZnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@bresnan.com... >> >> "Ken" wrote in message >> news:p_pJg.8227$Tl4.5854@dukeread06... >>>I have gotten several eBay emails telling me my 'watched item' has been >>>relisted, and I wasn't watching them. Anyone else getting these? Ken >>> >> Ken I get a lot of weird ones also. I send these on to spoof@ebay.com >> and Ebay checks them out and replies. Usually it is some one that is not >> reregistered with Ebay. Warren >> > > My personal favorites are the current run of "I don't know what your scam > is.... " saying that they bought and paid for my Dell laptop computer.. > never mind I've never owned one TO sell. :) > Yeah, those scams are sickening. I had one sent to me of something I was "supposedly" watching - having been relisted and my bid cancelled. Problem is, I never was watching the item OR bidding. It was an item which had expired just that day - no bids, not relisted and an item I had NO chance of ever desiring. BEST RULE OF THUMB - if you "have" an e-bay account - go THERE to read any messages. L. Article: 341089 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: RCA Radiola 8x? From: Your Name References: <0GrJg.117$qb2.69@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 02:45:58 GMT "jim menning" wrote in news:0GrJg.117$qb2.69 @tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com: > Can you post pictures http://www.letersi.com/1.jpg http://www.letersi.com/2.jpg http://www.letersi.com/3.jpg Article: 341090 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: Re: My Personal Radio Collection Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:46:25 -0400 Message-ID: <12fcjcb7suroad2@corp.supernews.com> References: "Warren Weber" wrote in message news:cJWdnaKnxMJpo2vZnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@bresnan.com... > > >>Gary.. I cannibalized an AK similar to yours as a kid to use the parts. >>(sigh). Also sold my 1956 T bird for $1700. Double (sigh) > > Cars I sold in the mid 1970's- 1961 Chevy Impala 2 door hardtop with 283, 4 barrel, 3 speed Hurst shift- $50.00 1963 Chevy Impala Convertible, 350 auto- $50.00 1963 and 65 Volvo PV544 $75.00 and $60.00 1963 Buick Special convertible, great shape $350.00 1963 Pontiac Bonneville ambulance, all redone but for thrown rod, sold to LaPorte, Indiana junkyard $125.00 I smashed dozens of 45 and 50 tubes at the dump too. John H. Article: 341091 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: bc191f@gmail.com Subject: Re: Emerson model LP Date: 30 Aug 2006 19:50:25 -0700 Message-ID: <1156992625.321536.202420@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156938465.286017.237660@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> jim menning wrote: > wrote in message > > http://qsl.asti.net/Sonara_LP/P8300015.JPG > > > > No wonder I never heard of an Emerson model LP. > > jim menning MEA CULPA! It's re-done under "Sonora Model LP" Marty Article: 341092 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? END? Only here, after 160 more posts! Date: 30 Aug 2006 19:53:38 -0700 Message-ID: <1156992818.627236.218070@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: Anti-Dinius wrote: > Steven wrote: > >My father isn't concerned what I do online > > > He'd be embarassed if he was. You're making a Gosh, I'm thrilled you aren't. If it helps you to have a massive coronary and swallow your penis, I'm all for it! Happy dying! Don't leave me in your will! You can't beat that American drive to be the best! Article: 341093 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 30 Aug 2006 19:57:26 -0700 Message-ID: <1156993046.820837.140760@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Anti-Dinius wrote: > Steven wrote: > > Perhaps the real > > person behind Anti-Dinius should contribute something himself? > > I'm contributing stress to you which could shorten your miserable life. > Everybody wins! HA HA HA! You lose. Take your penis out of your mouth and grow up. Article: 341094 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <0GrJg.117$qb2.69@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: RCA Radiola 8x? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 03:14:38 GMT "Your Name" wrote in message news:Xns982FE7A4BFD6Fyouremailyouremailco@130.81.64.196... > "jim menning" wrote in news:0GrJg.117$qb2.69 > @tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com: > >> Can you post pictures > > http://www.letersi.com/1.jpg > http://www.letersi.com/2.jpg > http://www.letersi.com/3.jpg > Looks like it's close to the R-35, R-39, RE-57 layout. jim menning Article: 341095 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 22:16:51 -0500 Message-ID: <44f6479b$0$8943$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "Ken" wrote in message news:p_pJg.8227$Tl4.5854@dukeread06... >I have gotten several eBay emails telling me my 'watched item' has been >relisted, and I wasn't watching them. Anyone else getting these? Ken Yeah, I have one today. But these aren't scams. They really are from eBay. I wasn't watching the exact item but I was watching something similar. I figure one of two things is happening - either eBay's mail system is wonky or they're trying some new application that points you to items you might be interested in. Either way I wish it would go away. I get enough mail as it is. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 341096 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: 30 Aug 2006 20:34:56 -0700 Message-ID: <1156995296.594781.111890@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> References: Brenda Ann wrote: > My personal favorites are the current run of "I don't know what your scam > is.... " saying that they bought and paid for my Dell laptop computer.. > never mind I've never owned one TO sell. :) I kept getting that one for weeks. Any link on the email required login/password to a spoofed Ebay site. It's nothing but a clever fishing scheme. I also got the heavy threat/warning emails that I would be reported to ebay for not shipping something or other---always something from another seller. I always logon to Ebay directly from their url. Article: 341097 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:41:38 +0900 Message-ID: References: <1156995296.594781.111890@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1156995296.594781.111890@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com... > > Brenda Ann wrote: >> My personal favorites are the current run of "I don't know what your scam >> is.... " saying that they bought and paid for my Dell laptop computer.. >> never mind I've never owned one TO sell. :) > I kept getting that one for weeks. Any link on the email required > login/password to a spoofed Ebay site. It's nothing but a clever > fishing scheme. I also got the heavy threat/warning emails that I would > be reported to ebay for not shipping something or other---always > something from another seller. I always logon to Ebay directly from > their url. I don't even bother. I know what I'm watching, buying and selling. I just get a laugh out of it as I forward it on to spoof@ebay.com :) Article: 341098 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:13:37 -0500 Message-ID: <2586-44F661F1-96@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: I get emails from ebay.I am not registered at ebay (SUCKS!!!!) I always delete everything out of my inbox every morning when I woke up and turn this thang on. cuhulin Article: 341099 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:17:44 -0500 Message-ID: <2587-44F662E8-19@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1156984344.470795.23250@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Doggy,she is pestering me to throw her rubber squeaky doggy monsters toys around the living room so she can run and get them.ebay can't compete with that! Catch,Blueberry! cuhulin Article: 341100 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:14:41 -0500 Message-ID: <2588-44F66231-5@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1156984344.470795.23250@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> ebay = ASSHOLES. cuhulin Article: 341101 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:20:48 -0500 Message-ID: <2586-44F663A0-97@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: ebay checks them out,eh? I sure would like to check out that cutie pie college gal I saw in the wal mart parking lot this afternoon. cuhulin Article: 341102 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:27:30 -0500 Message-ID: <2586-44F66532-99@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <44f6479b$0$8943$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> If you get emails from ebay,,, Delete them.They are scams. cuhulin Article: 341103 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:25:47 -0500 Message-ID: <2586-44F664CB-98@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <44f64bc9$0$10208$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> They pass/sell them cookies around and that is part of why we get so many scam spams.Not to worry though with Webtv. Webtv can not download,hence no viruses.Now,go head on and argue with me,,, ''expert'' cuhulin Article: 341104 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:29:29 -0500 Message-ID: <2586-44F665A9-100@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1156995296.594781.111890@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> I get about 40 - 50 unsolicited emails everyday.Only takes a few seconds to kick their scamming asses out. cuhulin Article: 341105 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? END? Only here, after 160 more Date: Wed, 30 Aug 2006 23:32:24 -0500 Message-ID: <2587-44F66658-21@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1156992818.627236.218070@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I am embarassed that bush is the sock so-called prez of U.S.A. cuhulin (SHOTGUN cheney is the prez of U.S.A.) Article: 341106 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "KB9NLK" Subject: Re: Help on first Zenith 9-S-262 Restore - Dial Pointer? Springs? 6T5 Questions Date: 31 Aug 2006 03:44:54 -0700 Message-ID: <1157021094.855941.311920@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1156895028.393210.24220@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> The 6T5 looks very nice! I was able to get mine glowing again in the 9-S-262 I am working on. It was bad wire on speaker that kept it from glowing. I figured out that the spoeaker circuit must be completed otherwise the eye will not glow, which caused me to solve 2 problems at once! Learn something new every day, eh? Ha HA! Mark, the dial for the volume on my radio is part # 26-151 if you are still on this post..... Thank you all for the tips on getting the dial indicator off. I am a little nervous on removing it, but I will give it a shot..... Thanks! Ed KB9NLK Article: 341107 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "KB9NLK" Subject: Re: Help on first Zenith 9-S-262 Restore - Dial Pointer? Springs? 6T5 Questions Date: 31 Aug 2006 03:49:29 -0700 Message-ID: <1157021368.944915.155970@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156895028.393210.24220@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> The 6T5 looks very nice! I was able to get mine glowing again in the 9-S-262 I am working on. It was a bad wire on speaker that kept it from glowing. I figured out that the speaker circuit must be completed otherwise the eye will not glow which caused me to solve 2 problems at once! Learn something new every day, eh? Ha HA! Mark, the dial for the volume on my radio is part # 26-151 if you are still on this post..... Thank you all for the tips on getting the dial indicator off. I am a little nervous on removing it, but I will give it a shot..... Any suggestions on who to use for a speaker repair / recone job? Thanks! Ed KB9NLK Article: 341108 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Belleek Neptune cups and saucers for sale Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:47:45 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1157033709_5975@sp6iad.superfeed.net> <1157035326.253868.117300@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> In <1157035326.253868.117300@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> "toxcrusadr" writes: >test@test.ca wrote: >> I have a set of 6 Belleek cups and saucers in mint condition, green marks >> dated 1963 to 1980, will ship world wide, PayPal preferred $350.00 USD >> shipping included. >Turned upside down, these cups could possibly make an insulated stand >for a chassis so you don't have to bend over to solder. Anyone have a >use for the saucers? In any case I wouldn't pay that much, at a garage >sale ceramic cups usually go for 25 cents. Ah, but it very well may be that Bell Eek cups have superior dielectric properties. Might be just the ticket for low-loss coil forms! >> also have Dresden canelabras if interested. >So, if we are not interested, you do not actually have them? Schrodinger's canelabra [sic]. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 341109 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Belleek Neptune cups and saucers for sale From: test@test.ca Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:26:29 GMT Message-ID: <1157033709_5975@sp6iad.superfeed.net> I have a set of 6 Belleek cups and saucers in mint condition, green marks dated 1963 to 1980, will ship world wide, PayPal preferred $350.00 USD shipping included. info@pokercity.com wayne 1-204-291-5666 also have Dresden canelabras if interested. Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com Article: 341110 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "N Cook" Subject: 1951 Garrard model 70 record changer Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:20:42 +0100 Message-ID: Anyone happen to know what the mechanism is that moves the tonearm back to the outermost rest position. Everything else works, dropping the arm at the 8 inch and 10 inch position, innermost trigger and arm lift works but leaves the arm over the record rather than swings it ourt of the way. I'm wondering if some linkage is missing, no known history for this deck and not seen working by me or the owner but I cannot fathom out any such action >from what is underneath. Article: 341111 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: RCA Radiola 8x? From: Your Name References: <0GrJg.117$qb2.69@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:55:54 GMT "jim menning" wrote in news:yusJg.128$qb2.57 @tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com: > Looks like it's close to the R-35, R-39, RE-57 layout Yes, this makes sense. It has the 8 terminal strip. The condenser bank has 8 taps as opposed to the 5 taps on the 80, 82 & 86 and my 2.7 volt reading matches the 2.6 volt reading on the schematic. Very nice, thank you ver much. Article: 341112 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? END? Only here, after 160 more posts! Date: 31 Aug 2006 05:50:35 -0700 Message-ID: <1157028635.402297.92710@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: > > Gosh, I'm thrilled you aren't. If it helps you to have a massive > coronary and swallow your penis, I'm all for it! Happy dying! Don't > leave me in your will! > > You can't beat that American drive to be the best! You get all bent out of shape when someone suggests that you die and look what you've done. I'm hoping the lightbulb comes on over your head soon and you realize you're as irritating to some as I am to you so you understand the reaction to your nonsense. In the meantime try to remember: - Well thought out posts with facts are good. - Attempts to be clever and witty with a bunch of jibberish don't go over well. - Stay on topic. - No extraneous info about your life The items on the list above don't go over well because it's a technical group and the discussions will only be interesting to a small group that are into the subject matter. Anything besides facts will tend to be thought of as irritating noise. Note I didn't slam you on the recent eBay scam and radio collection threads because you stuck to the points above mostly. Article: 341113 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? END? Only here, after 160 more posts! Date: 31 Aug 2006 07:47:47 -0700 Message-ID: <1157035666.996336.159370@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: Anti-Dinius wrote: > Steven wrote: > > > > Gosh, I'm thrilled you aren't. If it helps you to have a massive > > coronary and swallow your penis, I'm all for it! Happy dying! Don't > > leave me in your will! > > > > You can't beat that American drive to be the best! > > You get all bent out of shape when someone suggests that you die and > look what you've done. I'm hoping the lightbulb comes on over your > head soon and you realize you're as irritating to some as I am to you > so you understand the reaction to your nonsense. You get all bent out of shape in the first place, and you decide you are "Miss Manners". Here comes this "etiquette" again...I'll try not to laugh or fart at hypocrites. > In the meantime try to remember: > - Well thought out posts with facts are good. > - Attempts to be clever and witty with a bunch of jibberish don't go > over well. > - Stay on topic. > - No extraneous info about your life > > The items on the list above don't go over well because it's a technical > group and the discussions will only be interesting to a small group > that are into the subject matter. Anything besides facts will tend to > be thought of as irritating noise. This is a technical group. If you say so, Menning. > Note I didn't slam you on the recent eBay scam and radio collection > threads because you stuck to the points above mostly. It isn't good "etiquette" to slam. Now we get to read a post about Peter's fantasy life with his lover, Skippy. I warn you-I've had a good night's sleep. Article: 341114 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 31 Aug 2006 06:10:24 -0700 Message-ID: <1157029824.257494.181090@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > > HA HA HA! You lose. Take your penis out of your mouth and grow up. There you go ASSuming again. What makes you think I have a penis? Maybe I do and maybe I don't. Unlike you, I don't burden the group with the details of my life so you don't know and that's a good thing. Give it a try. Article: 341115 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gerryu21220@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Date: 31 Aug 2006 06:22:49 -0700 Message-ID: <1157030569.718177.199610@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Bill Cohn wrote: > If the FM is fading away I suggest you try 6AU6A limiter as it is only > used on the FM side of the receiver. Didn't have a 6AU6A, but I did find a 6AU6 WA and popped that in. I hope that is at least close... Never saw one with "WA" on it before. Turned the Zenith on. FM played loud and clear! - for about one whole minute. :-( Then it was as if I had changed the selector knob to something else. Just white noise/static. At least that tube did make SOME improvement. Before, FM was kinda weak before it went off. Now if I could only figure out how to get FM to stay on! Article: 341116 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 31 Aug 2006 06:42:06 -0700 Message-ID: <1157031726.108183.46300@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: > It comes from the same oil they used to make your unleaded, it's just > early in the production scheme and closer to the actual crude oil. Then > the oil left goes through all the catalytic cracking etc until it's > broken down into the napthas and gasoline and such. > > My dad pumped it for 35 years. That would make him the expert... not you. Crude Oil contains _many_ fractions of _many_ hydrocarbons from methane through heavy tar. Early refining schemes simply did fractional distillation of the raw crude, isolating each fraction to its appropriate use. So, approximately Pentane (first fraction liquid at room temperature) through Octane would become gasoline, and those spurious fractions such as benzene (a single hydrocarbon), naptha (a mix) and others. Nonane through Cetane and up would become diesel, together with some other spurrious fractions. The proportions of all those various fractions (roughly 10 different ones) are the difference between Kerosene and Diesel and Gasoline, as it happens. Before cat-crackers came along, tetra-ethyl lead was a necessary additive to the mix to give uniform and predictable results as the specific hydrocarbon mix would vary depending on the base crude, and whether it was mostly naptha or mostly paraffin based. Funny thing through history... Naptha was a waste-product from the desired kerosene, and became used for paints, burned off or dumped. Diesel was also a waste-produce, excepting that it started to be used for stove-oil and in poor-people's lamps. Along came Otto and the gasoline engine, developed in part to take advantage of this otherwise waste-product (Naptha). Rudolph Diesel wanted to run his original engines on vegetable oils (1892), then coal-dust (1893) based on a request from Krupp, he had to be convinced (didn't take much as it happened) to try diesel (heavy kerosene)... especially as his dust-fueled engines blew up on a regular basis. A small aside, gasoline pressure lanterns (Coleman Lamp, for example) became quite common around the turn of the century for the same reason, and were developed directly from kerosene lanterns. They burnt cleaner, brighter and used the same thorium-based mantle technology, and the fuel being an almost-waste product was a bunch cheaper at the time. How things have changed. Today, the whole shebang is vaporized, the heavy fractions run through a cat-cracker and then the entirety treated _afterwards_ to make the desired products. Ain't nothing "closer" or further to the original crude from any refinery these days. And there is very damned little waste. Also why a 42 gallon barrel of oil will sometimes make more or less than 42 gallons of product as the weight of a barrel will vary greatly. You are about 40 years behind the times, Skippy. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 341117 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "L." References: <44F6EAB7.84B9C94B@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:34:49 -0400 Message-ID: <44f6f3d2$0$10197$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44F6EAB7.84B9C94B@earthlink.net... > Brenda Ann wrote: >> >> My personal favorites are the current run of "I don't know what your scam >> is.... " saying that they bought and paid for my Dell laptop computer.. >> never mind I've never owned one TO sell. :) > > > Both my eBay and Paypal accounts have been closed thousands of times > each, which is really funny because I have never had either. I also get > those emails that something I sold on eBay didn't arrive. Gee, do you > think someone hacked my non existent account? ;-) > Yep - thats got to be it......... :) L. Article: 341118 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 06:53:36 -0700 Message-ID: <3884-44F6E9E0-168@storefull-3173.bay.webtv.net> References: <1157030569.718177.199610@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> gerry: Sounds like the FM oscillator is quitting. Try the osc.-mixer tube in the FM front end. oc Article: 341119 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: Belleek Neptune cups and saucers for sale Date: 31 Aug 2006 07:42:06 -0700 Message-ID: <1157035326.253868.117300@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1157033709_5975@sp6iad.superfeed.net> test@test.ca wrote: > I have a set of 6 Belleek cups and saucers in mint condition, green marks > dated 1963 to 1980, will ship world wide, PayPal preferred $350.00 USD > shipping included. Turned upside down, these cups could possibly make an insulated stand for a chassis so you don't have to bend over to solder. Anyone have a use for the saucers? In any case I wouldn't pay that much, at a garage sale ceramic cups usually go for 25 cents. > also have Dresden canelabras if interested. So, if we are not interested, you do not actually have them? Maybe useful as a form for a decorative loopstick AM antenna. Tox Article: 341120 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gerryu21220@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Date: 31 Aug 2006 07:59:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1157036358.074944.240820@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1157030569.718177.199610@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Bill Sheppard wrote: > gerry: Sounds like the FM oscillator is quitting. Try the osc.-mixer > tube in the FM front end. > oc Um - okay. Which tube might that be? I hope it isn't a 6BC7, as that is the one I don't have a replacement for. I'll bet it is, as that was the only one I didn't swap out... Article: 341121 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about Hot Fuel? Date: 31 Aug 2006 07:53:12 -0700 Message-ID: <1157035992.629811.208410@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Peter Wieck wrote: Also why a 42 gallon barrel of oil will sometimes make more or > less than 42 gallons of product as the weight of a barrel will vary > greatly. This reminded me - there has just been a story in the news about the varying temperature of dispensed gasoline - and thus the density and therefore, energy content per gallon. Gasoline expands and contracts with temperature just like water - only more dramatically than water. Industry and the government agreed 100 years ago that a gallon of gasoline was defined as a gallon at 60 degrees - the average temperature of gas in underground tanks. Trouble is, times have changed. The way (and the speed at which) gas is stored, transported and sold means that you are often buying gas at a higher temperature - which means you're getting less for the price of a gallon. The oil companies don't want to talk about it, but when forced, they say temperature compensating pumps are too expensive, and besides, consumers would be "confused" by them. "People just want a gallon," they say. But what is a gallon? It's estimated that consumers are paying an extra $2.3 billion per year at today's prices for gas they aren't getting (that's about $7 for every man, woman and child in the US). In Canada, where temperatures are lower, the gas is more dense and it's the opposite problem - the retailers have an incentive because they're giving out MORE than a ' 60-degree gallon.' Guess what? They use temperature compensating pumps in Canada. For some reason the consumers up there are not confused by this. Amazing, isn't it? Full story: http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/business/15370193.htm Part 2: Technology solution http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascitystar/15376686.htm Tox Article: 341122 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "N Cook" Subject: Re: 1951 Garrard model 70 record changer Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:00:07 +0100 Message-ID: References: N Cook wrote in message news:ed6k7k$h4n$1@inews.gazeta.pl... > Anyone happen to know what the mechanism is that moves the tonearm back to > the outermost rest position. > Everything else works, dropping the arm at the 8 inch and 10 inch position, > innermost trigger and arm lift works but leaves the arm over the record > rather than swings it ourt of the way. > I'm wondering if some linkage is missing, no known history for this deck and > not seen working by me or the owner but I cannot fathom out any such action > from what is underneath. > > I reckon a plate must be missing. There is a proper roller with positional adjustment that does not engage with anything at any time in the cycling, but I reckon should run along the edge of some missing plate. Roller is connected to the plate under the tonearm, rotating with the tonearm. There is also a hole in the linkage that activates the up/down pin through the tonearm pivot , I reckon a plate should be connected to that up/down linkage through that otherwise non functional hole. When the up/down linkage is moved it would move the missing plate to engage the roller and push the tonearm outwards. If anyone is familiar with such mechanisms I could take some close up pics and post on a website. Article: 341123 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: OT: Have you read about "etiquette" and is it fatal? Date: 31 Aug 2006 08:01:06 -0700 Message-ID: <1157036466.665313.257070@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: I ride a bicycle and I don't spend 400 a month dollars on something that I owned free and clear. Where does that suggest backwards? Yawn. You and Skippy go enjoy a private moment with Menning/Anti-Dinius/the missing Stooge and the "etiquette" that should get you two Disability benefits. I feel badly for y'all. Article: 341124 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? END? Only here, after 160 more posts! Date: 31 Aug 2006 08:03:08 -0700 Message-ID: <1157036588.519933.270920@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: > I warn you-I've had a good night's sleep. That is patently untrue... there is not a 10-minute section of any given 24-hour period, fiscal or traditional without a Skippy Post. Do you _REALLY_ enjoy the sort of attention you get, or is it like scratching a scab? And like this incessant, obsessive scratching, wouldn't less of it be better for you? Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 341125 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <10288-44F4C710-951@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <1156940856.280699.78320@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <12fc6b0aerav24c@news.supernews.com> <1156983361.000658.41100@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156986516.019009.198940@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156992818.627236.218070@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1157028635.402297.92710@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1157035666.996336.159370@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? END? Only here, after 160 more posts! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:05:16 GMT "Steven" wrote in message news:1157035666.996336.159370@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > >> > Anti-Dinius wrote: >> >> The items on the list above don't go over well because it's a technical >> group and the discussions will only be interesting to a small group >> that are into the subject matter. Anything besides facts will tend to >> be thought of as irritating noise. > > This is a technical group. If you say so, Menning. > You stupid fuck! Quit bringing me back into this stuff. I don't use aliases. I'll call you a fat, lazy, useless piece of shit, and not be afraid at all to sign my name to the post. Now leave me alone if you don't want to hear from me. jim menning Article: 341126 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:10:20 -0500 Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 From: John Stone Message-ID: References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1157030569.718177.199610@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> On 8/31/06 8:22 AM, in article 1157030569.718177.199610@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com, "gerryu21220@gmail.com" wrote: > > Bill Cohn wrote: > >> If the FM is fading away I suggest you try 6AU6A limiter as it is only >> used on the FM side of the receiver. > > Didn't have a 6AU6A, but I did find a 6AU6 WA and popped that in. I > hope that is at least close... Never saw one with "WA" on it before. > Turned the Zenith on. FM played loud and clear! - for about one whole > minute. :-( Then it was as if I had changed the selector knob to > something else. Just white noise/static. At least that tube did make > SOME improvement. Before, FM was kinda weak before it went off. Now > if I could only figure out how to get FM to stay on! > Is it fading away or just dropping out? If the former, you could have the dreaded silver mica disease in one of the IF cans. Very common in Zeniths of this era. Article: 341127 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <21764-44F51020-858@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1156953166.084152.137670@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1157031726.108183.46300@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1157036466.665313.257070@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Have you read about "DINIUS" and is it fatal? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:17:36 GMT "Steven" wrote in message news:1157036466.665313.257070@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... >I ride a bicycle and I don't spend 400 a month dollars on something > that I owned free and clear. > > Where does that suggest backwards? Yawn. You and Skippy go enjoy a > private moment with Menning/Anti-Dinius/the missing Stooge and the > "etiquette" that should get you two Disability benefits. > > I feel badly for y'all. > Listen fuckhead, quit bringing me into your fantasies if you don't want to hear from me. jim menning (always posting under my real name) Article: 341128 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 31 Aug 2006 08:33:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1157038393.055990.139460@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Anti-Dinius wrote: > Steven wrote: > > > > HA HA HA! You lose. Take your penis out of your mouth and grow up. > > There you go ASSuming again. What makes you think I have a penis? > Maybe I do and maybe I don't. Unlike you, I don't burden the group > with the details of my life so you don't know and that's a good thing. > Give it a try. Shut up, Jim. Article: 341129 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Have you read about "DINIUS" and is it fatal? Date: 31 Aug 2006 08:35:34 -0700 Message-ID: <1157038534.197205.186440@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: jim menning wrote: > "Steven" wrote in message > news:1157036466.665313.257070@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... > >I ride a bicycle and I don't spend 400 a month dollars on something > > that I owned free and clear. > > > > Where does that suggest backwards? Yawn. You and Skippy go enjoy a > > private moment with Menning/Anti-Dinius/the missing Stooge and the > > "etiquette" that should get you two Disability benefits. > > > > I feel badly for y'all. > > > > Listen fuckhead, quit bringing me into your fantasies if you don't want to hear from > me. > > jim menning > (always posting under my real name) Shut up, Jim and out "Anti-Dinius" if it bugs you. We'll see. I think you are aware who posts under that nym. Article: 341130 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: _____ Date: 31 Aug 2006 08:37:08 -0700 Message-ID: <1157038628.045864.147350@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: jim menning wrote: > "Steven" wrote in message > news:1157036466.665313.257070@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... > >I ride a bicycle and I don't spend 400 a month dollars on something > > that I owned free and clear. > > > > Where does that suggest backwards? Yawn. You and Skippy go enjoy a > > private moment with Menning/Anti-Dinius/the missing Stooge and the > > "etiquette" that should get you two Disability benefits. > > > > I feel badly for y'all. > > > > Listen fuckhead, quit bringing me into your fantasies if you don't want to hear from > me. > > jim menning > (always posting under my real name) Article: 341131 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Oppat" References: <1156895028.393210.24220@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1157021368.944915.155970@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Help on first Zenith 9-S-262 Restore - Dial Pointer? Springs? 6T5 Questions Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:44:06 -0400 Message-ID: I have the 26-151 dials and all the other Zenith control dials (except the 26-154 right now) in stock. $8 ea. Best to bond them to a scrap of the original that you leave on the brass hub. Mark Oppat "KB9NLK" wrote in message news:1157021368.944915.155970@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > The 6T5 looks very nice! I was able to get mine glowing again in the > 9-S-262 I am working on. It was a bad wire on speaker that kept it from > > glowing. I figured out that the speaker circuit must be completed > otherwise the eye will not glow which caused me to solve 2 problems at > once! Learn something new every day, eh? Ha HA! > > Mark, the dial for the volume on my radio is part # 26-151 if you are > still on this post..... > > > Thank you all for the tips on getting the dial indicator off. I am a > little nervous on removing it, but I will give it a shot..... > > Any suggestions on who to use for a speaker repair / recone job? > > > Thanks! > > > Ed > > > KB9NLK > > Article: 341132 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156885253.582989.181800@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1156889071.984413.224350@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1156919925.389622.257500@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156943588.451209.162540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156993046.820837.140760@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1157029824.257494.181090@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1157038393.055990.139460@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:42:25 GMT "Steven" wrote in message news:1157038393.055990.139460@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > Anti-Dinius wrote: >> Steven wrote: >> > >> > HA HA HA! You lose. Take your penis out of your mouth and grow up. >> >> There you go ASSuming again. What makes you think I have a penis? >> Maybe I do and maybe I don't. Unlike you, I don't burden the group >> with the details of my life so you don't know and that's a good thing. >> Give it a try. > > Shut up, Jim. > I didn't post this. Keep it up turd, your day will come. jim menning Article: 341133 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <21764-44F51020-858@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1156953166.084152.137670@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1157031726.108183.46300@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1157036466.665313.257070@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1157038534.197205.186440@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Have you read about "DINIUS" and is it fatal? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:43:38 GMT "Steven" wrote in message news:1157038534.197205.186440@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > jim menning wrote: >> "Steven" wrote in message >> news:1157036466.665313.257070@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... >> >I ride a bicycle and I don't spend 400 a month dollars on something >> > that I owned free and clear. >> > >> > Where does that suggest backwards? Yawn. You and Skippy go enjoy a >> > private moment with Menning/Anti-Dinius/the missing Stooge and the >> > "etiquette" that should get you two Disability benefits. >> > >> > I feel badly for y'all. >> > >> >> Listen fuckhead, quit bringing me into your fantasies if you don't want to hear >> from >> me. >> >> jim menning >> (always posting under my real name) > > Shut up, Jim and out "Anti-Dinius" if it bugs you. We'll see. I think > you are aware who posts under that nym. > Do your own detective work you piece of shit. jim menning Article: 341134 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <21764-44F51020-858@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1156953166.084152.137670@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> <1157031726.108183.46300@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1157036466.665313.257070@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1157038628.045864.147350@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: worth the repeat Message-ID: <4tDJg.936$d72.254@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:44:00 GMT "Steven" wrote in message news:1157038628.045864.147350@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > jim menning wrote: >> "Steven" wrote in message >> news:1157036466.665313.257070@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... >> >I ride a bicycle and I don't spend 400 a month dollars on something >> > that I owned free and clear. >> > >> > Where does that suggest backwards? Yawn. You and Skippy go enjoy a >> > private moment with Menning/Anti-Dinius/the missing Stooge and the >> > "etiquette" that should get you two Disability benefits. >> > >> > I feel badly for y'all. >> > >> >> Listen fuckhead, quit bringing me into your fantasies if you don't want to hear >> from >> me. >> >> jim menning >> (always posting under my real name) > Article: 341135 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:35:48 -0500 Message-ID: <21267-44F701D4-112@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1157031726.108183.46300@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> And you can run a diesel engine on a dead cat too.It's True. cuhulin Article: 341136 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gerryu21220@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Zenith Console Stereo SF2580 Date: 31 Aug 2006 08:46:37 -0700 Message-ID: <1157039197.714221.209860@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156878453.457191.10130@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> John Stone wrote: > Is it fading away or just dropping out? If the former, you could have the > dreaded silver mica disease in one of the IF cans. Very common in Zeniths of > this era. When I first tried it, FM was weak, then faded away rather quickly - just 10 or 15 seconds worth of audio. After changing to the 6AU6 WA, FM was good and strong for roughly a minute, and then dropped out, came back, dropped out again, came back, then dropped out permanently. Article: 341137 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "toxcrusadr" Subject: Re: Belleek Neptune cups and saucers for sale Date: 31 Aug 2006 08:54:04 -0700 Message-ID: <1157039644.182523.4680@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1157033709_5975@sp6iad.superfeed.net> Tim Mullen wrote: > >So, if we are not interested, you do not actually have them? > > Schrodinger's canelabra [sic]. Heh! Good one. I got it - the plates could be used for fancy dielectric for audiophoolcapacitors. To properly take advantage of this fine ceramic, you'd have to soak them in the oil of a Neem tree grown on the south facing volcanic slopes of Reallyreallybad, harvested at night by a man with one leg. Then top with hand-hammered 22K gold foil from Mumbai. But what to use for an outer casing, and leads, that would be appropriate? Hmm. Tox Article: 341138 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about Hot Fuel? Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 10:47:22 -0500 Message-ID: <21267-44F7048A-115@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1157035992.629811.208410@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Gasoline is $2.25 per gallon today in New Albany,Mississippi.So what is it here in the Jackson metro area? www.jacksongasprices.com I better put my little doggy in the hall now and close the door (the mail man just now came down my street) and step out by the road and get my snail mail and the snail mail from those two divorced wimmins snail mail box (Julie,in Natchez told me via her cell phone,,, I would appreciate it if you will) who used to live next door to me before one of those ''democrats'' (if y'all know what I mean) gets it. cuhulin Article: 341139 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Belleek Neptune cups and saucers for sale Date: 31 Aug 2006 09:02:03 -0700 Message-ID: <1157040123.551177.315660@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1157033709_5975@sp6iad.superfeed.net> toxcrusadr wrote: > Tim Mullen wrote: > > > >So, if we are not interested, you do not actually have them? > > > > Schrodinger's canelabra [sic]. > > Heh! Good one. > > I got it - the plates could be used for fancy dielectric for > audiophoolcapacitors. To properly take advantage of this fine ceramic, > you'd have to soak them in the oil of a Neem tree grown on the south > facing volcanic slopes of Reallyreallybad, harvested at night by a man > with one leg. Then top with hand-hammered 22K gold foil from Mumbai. > But what to use for an outer casing, and leads, that would be > appropriate? Hmm. Photoresistant microfiber shell waxed with an obscure formula developed by aboriginal Australian chemist using rare Tasmanian botanicals. Copper. Mined at the top of Mount Rainier and purified by ancient Native American techniques assuring perfect convergence of electrons in harmony with the Earth, Sky and all Yanni CDs. Article: 341140 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 31 Aug 2006 09:04:44 -0700 Message-ID: <1157040284.558583.78380@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1157031726.108183.46300@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > And you can run a diesel engine on a dead cat too.It's True. > cuhulin Ah, but the dead cat had to be run over by the diesel FIRST! It's kind of futile unless you have a massacree. Article: 341141 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about Hot Fuel? Date: 31 Aug 2006 09:06:51 -0700 Message-ID: <1157040411.616687.202780@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1157035992.629811.208410@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> cuhulin@webtv.net wrote: > Gasoline is $2.25 per gallon today in New Albany,Mississippi.So what is > it here in the Jackson metro area? www.jacksongasprices.com > > I better put my little doggy in the hall now and close the door (the > mail man just now came down my street) and step out by the road and get > my snail mail and the snail mail from those two divorced wimmins snail > mail box (Julie,in Natchez told me via her cell phone,,, I would > appreciate it if you will) who used to live next door to me before one > of those ''democrats'' (if y'all know what I mean) gets it. > cuhulin So where is it $1.42? Article: 341142 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:12:28 -0500 Message-ID: It's a regular thing now with me. Bruce "Ken" wrote in message news:p_pJg.8227$Tl4.5854@dukeread06... >I have gotten several eBay emails telling me my 'watched item' has been >relisted, and I wasn't watching them. Anyone else getting these? Ken > Article: 341143 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 31 Aug 2006 09:23:51 -0700 Message-ID: <1157041431.861570.309420@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> jim menning wrote: > "Steven" wrote in message > news:1157038393.055990.139460@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > > Anti-Dinius wrote: > >> Steven wrote: > >> > > >> > HA HA HA! You lose. Take your penis out of your mouth and grow up. > >> > >> There you go ASSuming again. What makes you think I have a penis? > >> Maybe I do and maybe I don't. Unlike you, I don't burden the group > >> with the details of my life so you don't know and that's a good thing. > >> Give it a try. > > > > Shut up, Jim. > > > > I didn't post this. > > Keep it up turd, your day will come. > > jim menning Aren't we such a GENTEEL person? I leave it up to you to out the Anti-Dinius. Call it blackmail, call it Charlie. I hold you completely responsible until you prove beyond a doubt otherwise. Even the syntax it uses suggests you. Surprize me. I'm not going anywhere until I die. You will likely go there first. If you don't like it and want to have some peace for two minutes, be responsible. I'm not "Hezbollah" anymore than you are "Israel" or any similar metaphor. But you jackasses keep backfiring and making your lives more miserable every time. Get with the program. Stinson isn't here, nor are a couple other folks you had issues with. You still have few posts. regardless of whether you think I did it or not. Troll, my rectum. Peter Wieck has his fantasy gay relationship with "Skippy". Jeff thinks my butt is going to explode and spew rotten sausage bits across the universe. Yippee. It's kindergarten all over. Mrs. Johnson, Jeffy is looking at Darlene's underwear again! Even Cuhulin knows I don't ramble. He's a much better hillbilly than y'all. Article: 341144 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156885253.582989.181800@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1156889071.984413.224350@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1156919925.389622.257500@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156943588.451209.162540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156993046.820837.140760@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1157029824.257494.181090@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1157038393.055990.139460@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1157041431.861570.309420@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Dinius again Message-ID: <38EJg.942$d72.102@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:29:51 GMT "Steven" wrote in message news:1157041431.861570.309420@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > > I leave it up to you to out the Anti-Dinius. Call it blackmail, call it > Charlie. I hold you completely responsible until you prove beyond a > doubt otherwise. > What a fucking idiot you are. Give me your family's phone number, I'll harass them until they give you a long overdue abortion. Same principle. jim menning Article: 341145 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: 31 Aug 2006 09:29:33 -0700 Message-ID: <1157041773.223207.236210@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: Bruce Mercer wrote: > It's a regular thing now with me. > Bruce > > "Ken" wrote in message > news:p_pJg.8227$Tl4.5854@dukeread06... > >I have gotten several eBay emails telling me my 'watched item' has been > >relisted, and I wasn't watching them. Anyone else getting these? Ken You'd think if it was stolen from eBay, they'd leave a "digital watermark" that would not be obvious to the forger without a bit of scrutiny and would leave the file unusable or trigger anti-virus/malware programs. Article: 341146 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: 31 Aug 2006 09:31:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1157041860.888245.189670@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: > Bruce Mercer wrote: > > It's a regular thing now with me. > > Bruce > > > > "Ken" wrote in message > > news:p_pJg.8227$Tl4.5854@dukeread06... > > >I have gotten several eBay emails telling me my 'watched item' has been > > >relisted, and I wasn't watching them. Anyone else getting these? Ken > > You'd think if it was stolen from eBay, they'd leave a "digital > watermark" that would not be obvious to the forger without a bit of > scrutiny and would leave the file unusable or trigger > anti-virus/malware programs. Yes, they'd have to change it a lot, but isn't "peach" the color of money? Article: 341147 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:36:32 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: Here's a beaut: I just got an e-mail from "Ebay Small Business Store Limited " (note the Laos TLD). They want me to sell, of all things, their explosion-proof speakers made in China to a North American clientele. Sure! Just what I want to do with my time. "Hello, Ms. Miller? Have you ever considered how explosion-proof speakers could improve your life? Hello? Hello?..." So anyway, after I rack up the sales all I have to do is collect the $$$, deduct my generous 10%, and Western Union the balance to my new-found friends. Toward the bottom of this e-mail, after a psuedo employment application, they mention "will have to provide us with the Payment information for pickup". Note that by this point they seem to have forgotten all about the product being churned out by this Chinese factory. Product? What product? The kicker is this e-mail is coming from Brazil! WTF? Why bother talking up a Chinese factory and forging a *Laos* address? What's wrong with Brazilian manufacturing? Do they think the bait will want to "sell" Chinese explosion-proof speakers more than ones made elsewhere? Dunno. Some of these are getting so outlandish (like "you've had 1x10E16 dealings with this eBay member") and bizarre they're quite entertaining. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 341148 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: You are a curious boy, Jim Date: 31 Aug 2006 09:41:03 -0700 Message-ID: <1157042463.671167.306540@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Completely impotent too. Not even capable of stalling me. Even if you weren't Anti-Dinius, I'l bet they feel very stupid about now. You should be quite upset with them. I feel remotely sorry for you. Okay, that was quick. Next. Article: 341149 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gerryu21220@gmail.com" Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: 31 Aug 2006 09:48:02 -0700 Message-ID: <1157042882.542943.84740@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: Paul Dietenberger wrote: > "Ken" wrote in message > news:p_pJg.8227$Tl4.5854@dukeread06... > >I have gotten several eBay emails telling me my 'watched item' has been > >relisted, and I wasn't watching them. Anyone else getting these? Ken > > Yeah, I have one today. But these aren't scams. They really are from eBay. I > wasn't watching the exact item but I was watching something similar. I > figure one of two things is happening - either eBay's mail system is wonky > or they're trying some new application that points you to items you might be > interested in. Either way I wish it would go away. I get enough mail as it > is. That very same thing is happening to me. I get a notice about a watched item ending, but it's not the right item - but it is the right seller of something that I am indeed watching. Just a new glitch in the eBay software, I suppose. Article: 341150 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156616836.476140.105500@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156706575.277698.161730@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Do you think this Zenith is worth that much? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:51:51 GMT "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1156706575.277698.161730@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > My choice, I can no longer deal with the spam generated by Ebay, the > radios I've ordered all poorly packaged and damaged on delivery, greed, > and insanity. > > Gary --- looks like you are showing your true colors again. Now we have confirmation that the above were lies. Your temporary suspension on eBay was lifted, and now you're back to bidding. http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewBids&item=230023724053 jim menning Article: 341151 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: You are a curious boy, Jim Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 16:55:09 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156885253.582989.181800@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1156889071.984413.224350@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1156919925.389622.257500@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156943588.451209.162540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156993046.820837.140760@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1157029824.257494.181090@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1157038393.055990.139460@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1157041431.861570.309420@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <38EJg.942$d72.102@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <1157042463.671167.306540@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Geez, Steven, don't you ever wonder why people -- not just one person, but multiple people -- keep getting mad at you? Isn't there even the *remote* possibility that you've done *something* wrong in the past that ticks people off? Is it really that likely that everyone else is wrong, instead? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 341152 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about "etiquette" and is it fatal? Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:53:22 -0500 Message-ID: <21267-44F71402-132@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1157036466.665313.257070@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> I would like to adopt that cute college gal I saw yesterday.She could live in my house for free and skip whatever apartment fees she might be paying each month.But,she would have to mow my yard,do the cooking and washing,my house needs painting too. As far as sex is concerned,,,, I probally couldn't ''handle'' her anyway. cuhulin Article: 341153 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about Hot Fuel? Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:00:40 -0500 Message-ID: <21267-44F715B8-134@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1157040411.616687.202780@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> I remember when the price per gallon of gas was less than two bits.Yeah,and those looys will pop up and say their crap,But adjusted for inflation,gas is still a good deal.MORONS! cuhulin Article: 341154 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: cuhulin@webtv.net Subject: Re: Have you read about "DINIUS" and is it fatal? Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 12:30:57 -0500 Message-ID: <21267-44F71CD1-138@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1157038534.197205.186440@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> One thing is for sure,Steorn is getting some mileage out of this thread. cuhulin Article: 341155 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: PayPal problem Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:01:59 -0400 When I go to the site, I get: We are currently performing weekly maintenance on the PayPal website and it is temporarily unavailable. We estimate that it will be available at approximately 3:00 AM PDT. We apologize for the inconvenience. I used another pc and got in, everything liiks good. Any idea what's happening? Have I been scammed? Ken Article: 341156 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Have you read about "DINIUS" and is it fatal? Date: 31 Aug 2006 11:20:21 -0700 Message-ID: <1157048421.538569.212440@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: jim menning wrote: > Do your own detective work you piece of shit. It did and found itself.... From: Anti-Dinius - view profile Date: Thurs, Aug 31 2006 8:50 am ***Email: "Anti-Dinius" *** Groups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Not yet ratedRating: hide options Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show original | Report Abuse | Find messages by this author It actually makes sense that it created an alter ego, it will never be at a loss for conversation at its own level. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 341157 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "k35454" Subject: Re: Crackling Tuning Condenser. Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 11:23:33 -0700 The worst one I ever tried to work on was from a Meissner set built from a kit over 50 years ago. It seems that the plates were themselves "plated" with something that was coming loose like fur. I gave repeated shots of high-voltage burning, but in the end had to give up... it was like trying to drain Cornucopia !! k35454. Article: 341158 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: PayPal problem References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:30:42 -0400 Called PayPal. Had to go to cookies and uncheck 'disable cookies in mail and newsgroups' and reboot. Works ok now. I have never changed that setting since I got the pc. Any idea what's happening here? Ken Ken wrote: > When I go to the site, I get: > We are currently performing weekly maintenance on the PayPal website and > it is temporarily unavailable. We estimate that it will be available at > approximately 3:00 AM PDT. > > We apologize for the inconvenience. > > I used another pc and got in, everything liiks good. Any idea what's > happening? Have I been scammed? Ken > Article: 341159 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Crackling Tuning Condenser. References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:34:18 -0400 Did you try cleaning it by running a cloth between the plates? Ken k35454 wrote: > The worst one I ever tried to work on was from a Meissner set built from a > kit over 50 years ago. > It seems that the plates were themselves "plated" with something that was > coming loose like fur. > I gave repeated shots of high-voltage burning, but in the end had to give > up... it was like trying to drain Cornucopia !! k35454. > > Article: 341160 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: James Sweet Subject: Re: Crackling Tuning Condenser. References: Message-ID: <_2GJg.9308$p23.3835@trnddc04> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:40:58 GMT k35454 wrote: > The worst one I ever tried to work on was from a Meissner set built from a > kit over 50 years ago. > It seems that the plates were themselves "plated" with something that was > coming loose like fur. > I gave repeated shots of high-voltage burning, but in the end had to give > up... it was like trying to drain Cornucopia !! k35454. > > I'd have tried sandblasting them with a light grade media such as crushed walnut shells before giving up. Article: 341161 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44f73099$0$4519$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156885253.582989.181800@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1156889071.984413.224350@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1156919925.389622.257500@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156943588.451209.162540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156993046.820837.140760@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1157029824.257494.181090@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1157038393.055990.139460@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1157041431.861570.309420@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Date: 31 Aug 2006 18:55:21 GMT Steven wrote: > Even Cuhulin knows I don't ramble. He's a much better hillbilly than Please end your rambling. I could not care less if you are Anti-Dinius or if Desertbob is Nudos. Just shut the hell up for once. -- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 341162 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) Subject: Re: PayPal problem Date: 31 Aug 2006 18:43:34 GMT Message-ID: References: Ken writes: >Called PayPal. Had to go to cookies and uncheck 'disable cookies in mail >and newsgroups' and reboot. Works ok now. I have never changed that >setting since I got the pc. Any idea what's happening here? Ken >Ken wrote: >> When I go to the site, I get: >> We are currently performing weekly maintenance on the PayPal website and >> it is temporarily unavailable. We estimate that it will be available at >> approximately 3:00 AM PDT. >> >> We apologize for the inconvenience. >> >> I used another pc and got in, everything liiks good. Any idea what's >> happening? Have I been scammed? Ken >> Ebay (and Paypal) are setting more and more spyware on your computer. They keep requiring more access for their "partners." If you use FireFox, and maybe other browsers as well, you can turn off selectively bad cookies and set the browser to clear cookies at the end of session. It turns out that you can stop most of the spyware without affecting your "Ebay experience." Steve. -- Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Article: 341163 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Koste" Subject: Wisconsin Console Rescue, Anyone? Date: 31 Aug 2006 12:27:36 -0700 Message-ID: <1157052456.797906.88000@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> $75 BIN for a nice Stewart Warner ten tuber. Whatchawaitinfor? http://cgi.ebay.com/vintage-Stewart-Warner-10-TUBE-floor-console-radio-NR_W0QQitemZ150028233985QQihZ005QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Mike Koste Gobs of Knobs Ambler, PA Article: 341164 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <44f73c9d$0$4521$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Unusual output stages Date: 31 Aug 2006 19:46:37 GMT In a Dutch tube forum, there is a discussion about unusual output stages. Most newer European tube radio's use EL84 (6BQ5), EL86 (6CW5), EL95 (6DL5), ECL82 (6BM8), or ECL86 (6GW8) as output stages, or the 100mA series string versions of above tubes, for example the UL84 (45B5). Some more rare radio's use dual PL81 (21A6) for a transformerless balanced output stage, also the ELL80 or the ECLL800 are used in a few radio's. In the somewhat older european 4-tube concept, the EBL21 was often used. Tubes like EL503 were developed when many radio's were already transistorised, so I have never heard of a radio using that, and seldomly its - in amplifiers still very popular - predecessor EL34 (6CA7). I know by reading this group of several common American output tubes (35C5, 50C5, 6V6, 6L6, etc.) Have any of you ever encountered some unusual output configuration in a radio, either European or American? -- Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 341165 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Dinius again Date: 31 Aug 2006 12:49:19 -0700 Message-ID: <1157053759.258200.65420@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > jim menning wrote: > > > > "Steven" wrote in message > > news:1157041431.861570.309420@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > > > > > > > > > > I leave it up to you to out the Anti-Dinius. Call it blackmail, call it > > > Charlie. I hold you completely responsible until you prove beyond a > > > doubt otherwise. > > > > > > > What a fucking idiot you are. > > > > Give me your family's phone number, I'll harass them until they give you a long > > overdue abortion. Same principle. > > > > jim menning > > > E-mailed. Enjoy. You don't even know my parents names much less the phone number. Put up or stop wasting peoples' time. Article: 341166 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Have you read about "DINIUS" and is it fatal? Date: 31 Aug 2006 12:52:16 -0700 Message-ID: <1157053936.035154.277560@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: Peter Wieck wrote: > jim menning wrote: > > Do your own detective work you piece of shit. > > It did and found itself.... > > From: Anti-Dinius - view profile > Date: Thurs, Aug 31 2006 8:50 am > > ***Email: "Anti-Dinius" *** > > Groups: rec.antiques.radio+phono > Not yet ratedRating: > hide options > Reply | Reply to Author | Forward | Print | Individual Message | Show > original | Report Abuse | Find messages by this author I have one Lycos account and only one. You are still wrong 40% of the time. Article: 341167 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Have you read about "DINIUS" and is it fatal? Date: 31 Aug 2006 12:57:08 -0700 Message-ID: <1157054228.885751.126420@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: Michael A. Terrell wrote: > jim menning wrote: > > > > "Steven" wrote in message > > news:1157036466.665313.257070@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com... > > >I ride a bicycle and I don't spend 400 a month dollars on something > > > that I owned free and clear. > > > > > > Where does that suggest backwards? Yawn. You and Skippy go enjoy a > > > private moment with Menning/Anti-Dinius/the missing Stooge and the > > > "etiquette" that should get you two Disability benefits. > > > > > > I feel badly for y'all. > > > > > > > Listen fuckhead, quit bringing me into your fantasies if you don't want to hear from > > me. > > > > jim menning > > (always posting under my real name) > > > It looks like Skippy is cyberstalking you, to me. How do you stalk to one group? You were the tape rewinder, you know. If you want to spin all day, get dizzy. I'm house cleaning and took about five minutes to find more crap from the peanut gallery. Just why am I not hearing from Jeff Angus yet? Maybe he's smarter than you. You go have you wet dreams of terrorism to yourself, you wretched, crippled old man. Article: 341168 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "___" Subject: (no subject) Date: 31 Aug 2006 13:00:11 -0700 Message-ID: <1157054411.923122.154130@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: (no body) Article: 341169 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "___" Subject: (no subject) Date: 31 Aug 2006 13:02:17 -0700 Message-ID: <1157054537.353781.17280@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> (no body) Article: 341170 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: PayPal problem Date: 31 Aug 2006 13:12:07 -0700 Message-ID: <1157055127.895177.222190@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: Steven Swift wrote: > Ken writes: > > >Called PayPal. Had to go to cookies and uncheck 'disable cookies in mail > >and newsgroups' and reboot. Works ok now. I have never changed that > >setting since I got the pc. Any idea what's happening here? Ken > > >Ken wrote: > >> When I go to the site, I get: > >> We are currently performing weekly maintenance on the PayPal website and > >> it is temporarily unavailable. We estimate that it will be available at > >> approximately 3:00 AM PDT. > >> > >> We apologize for the inconvenience. > >> > >> I used another pc and got in, everything liiks good. Any idea what's > >> happening? Have I been scammed? Ken > >> > > Ebay (and Paypal) are setting more and more spyware on your computer. They > keep requiring more access for their "partners." If you use FireFox, and > maybe other browsers as well, you can turn off selectively bad cookies and > set the browser to clear cookies at the end of session. > > It turns out that you can stop most of the spyware without affecting your > "Ebay experience." I clear the temp files more than once every day and all I ever do is re-enter the account name and pass when I log in (as if I didn't have to anyway). Whatever are you refering to that I'm likely not aware of? Ken has it ever dawned on you that you should take a class or read computer forums once in a while? I don't mean to put you down in any way, but there are actually disused forums for computers out there (I actually found one). I know...I don't have a lot of cookies to worry about if I don't have a lot of groups. Good luck, it's not so hard... Article: 341171 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: (no subject) Date: 31 Aug 2006 13:13:32 -0700 Message-ID: <1157055212.448082.303780@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: I'll believe that when you die. Article: 341172 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Peter Wieck" Subject: Re: Have you read about "DINIUS" and is it fatal? Date: 31 Aug 2006 13:19:08 -0700 Message-ID: <1157055547.971826.270100@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: Steven wrote: > I have one Lycos account and only one. You are still wrong 40% of the > time. 'S'not what the headers say... Hmmm... one wonders what Lycos would say about a chameleon using their system.. I seem to remember this individual being booted by an other ISP not so very long ago for bad behavior. Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA Article: 341173 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <44f73c9d$0$4521$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> Subject: Re: Unusual output stages Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 15:19:13 -0500 Message-ID: <44f73724$0$8919$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> wrote in message news:44f73c9d$0$4521$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl... > Have any of you ever encountered some unusual output configuration in a > radio, either European or American? Weirdest one I know of is in 1941 Zenith chassis # 12A1, used in model numbers 12S568Z and others. It uses direct-coupled output. If you know the direct coupled output stage you know that the cathode of the driver triode (often type 6P5) is directly connected to the grid of the output triode (often type 6AC5.) These driver-output pairs can then be run in push-pull. In many sets this push-pull output stage requires five tubes with a triode phase inverter and two 6P5-6AC5 pairs, unless the driver and output are combined in one envelope i.e. type 6N6G. The direct coupled output stage in general is common enough in US radios, but the implementation in this particular radio is unusual. There's a 6J5 first audio tube, normal enough. This then goes to two 6J5 second audio tubes, still normal enough. But the plates of the 6J5s go one each to the grids of a 6AE7GT. 6AE7 is a dual-input tube - two cathodes, two grids, one plate. It is designed for exactly one purpose, which is to be a single driver tube for a push-pull direct-coupled output stage. The cathodes of the 6AE7 go one each to the grids of two 6AC5s. Zenith saved a tube by using the 6AE7 to replace both 6P5s. This may be the only chassis to ever have used this tube. Needless to say it's not easy to find now. Schematic is here, in case the description doesn't make any sense. http://www.nostalgiaair.org/resources/729/M0024729.htm -p. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 341174 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1156802583.262130.289240@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156806188.105121.198420@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <%TLIg.23963$uH6.11999@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <-eOdnXTk99uuRG7ZnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@giganews.com> <1156851449.730325.117170@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1156893241.504890.39430@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Transoceanic advice needed Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:21:17 -0700 Message-ID: Glad to hear you're back on the road. > I will replace paper caps as appropriate > to ensure good operation. A good preventative, even if the radio "works" for the time being. Also note the previous comments about replacing high-value resistors. I normally check all resistors 1 meg and higher, and replace as needed, along with recapping. Other resistors can and do fail, and you can find them during routine debugging, but the high-value ones are most often culprits. Phil Nelson Article: 341175 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Have you read about "DINIUS" and is it fatal? Date: 31 Aug 2006 13:36:05 -0700 Message-ID: <1157056565.541380.45120@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: Peter Wieck wrote: > Steven wrote: > > > I have one Lycos account and only one. You are still wrong 40% of the > > time. > > 'S'not what the headers say... Hmmm... one wonders what Lycos would say > about a chameleon using their system.. I seem to remember this > individual being booted by an other ISP not so very long ago for bad > behavior. I've sent mail to that account and it didn't bounce nor does it end up here. I could just as easily file a complaint with Lycos as you, and if you did, you'd just get a WTF from the webmaster anyway. I wasn't even aware you could have to accounts unless you pay. Would you like to see the Terms of Service? No, you could care less. Sanctimonious whore of Babylon. Article: 341176 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniel Russell" Subject: Re: Emerson with no volume Date: 31 Aug 2006 13:47:10 -0700 Message-ID: <1157057230.102005.87600@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156905656.095457.300790@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> The problem with a capacitor from the wiper of the volume pot, .02mfd going to pin 8 of the 6SQ7. It was supposed to go to pin 2. i just recaped it where everything was because i did not have wire prints... now that i moved the cap it works good. Dan Ken wrote: > What was the problem??? Ken > > Daniel Russell wrote: > > > Ok.... I just want to say thanks to all who have helped me with my > > volume issue. It has been a long couple months but i now have volume > > control. she is almost done. thanks again > > Dan > > Article: 341177 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniel Russell" Subject: Philco 48-150 Date: 31 Aug 2006 13:50:04 -0700 Message-ID: <1157057404.119324.305490@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Hi group back again, Working on a bettery operated Philco 48-150. The battery is missing but radio looks to be intact. I have the riders for this radio and it looks like it needs a 90V battery. The philco part number is p-60D-11L. I know i will never find one, but if anyone knows what to maybee use as a power supply to permanatly put in this it would be a big help. Thanks Dan Article: 341178 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "nesesu" Subject: Re: Unusual output stages Date: 31 Aug 2006 13:56:53 -0700 Message-ID: <1157057813.152547.167640@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <44f73c9d$0$4521$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> Well, Maarten, I am not sure what you mean as 'unusual', but the two most unusual outputs that I have run across in production sets are the direct coupled triode in Zeniths and several other brands from around WWII, and a peculiar push pull drive used on a Philco battery set from around 1947. The direct driven output triode [6AC5] and the driver triode [6P5] are arranged with the cathode of the driver connected to the grid of the output triode with no resistors used. The plate of the output is connected to an output transformer in the usual way. The grid of the driver is returned to the cathode of the output triode and the driver plate is connected direcly to B+. The 6AC6 has the two triodes combined in one envelope. The Philco output uses two 1A5 pentodes in push pull, but in one version the 1st 1A5 is driven from the 1st audio and the unbypassed screen is coupled to the grid of the 2nd 1A5 to provide the phase inverted drive. In the second [Canadian] version, the output transformer has a double wound primary that is oddly connected to derive the push pull drive. I cannot find the schematic off hand to describe it more fully and the set has no model ID to allow a quick lookup. Neil S. maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl wrote: > In a Dutch tube forum, there is a discussion about unusual output stages. > Most newer European tube radio's use EL84 (6BQ5), EL86 (6CW5), EL95 > (6DL5), ECL82 (6BM8), or ECL86 (6GW8) as output stages, or the 100mA > series string versions of above tubes, for example the UL84 (45B5). Some > more rare radio's use dual PL81 (21A6) for a transformerless balanced > output stage, also the ELL80 or the ECLL800 are used in a few radio's. In > the somewhat older european 4-tube concept, the EBL21 was often used. > Tubes like EL503 were developed when many radio's were already > transistorised, so I have never heard of a radio using that, and seldomly > its - in amplifiers still very popular - predecessor EL34 (6CA7). > > I know by reading this group of several common American output tubes > (35C5, 50C5, 6V6, 6L6, etc.) > > Have any of you ever encountered some unusual output configuration in a > radio, either European or American? > > -- > Met vriendelijke groet, > > Maarten Bakker. Article: 341179 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gkb" Subject: Nice find, I think...... Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:22:07 -0400 Message-ID: Well, just had to stop at a yard sale today. Didn't see any radios so I asked the question "you don't have any old radios do ya", to my surprise, yes was the answer. Follow me. It was just to big to haul out of the closet and I will take $20.00 for it. It is a Zenith console, 8-S-563X in really nice shape. I was glad to see that the knobs were all ok. The chassis is dusty and colored gold. All the tubes have the Zenith logo. The wave magnet box is still all there with nice colors. Will get this into the shop in a few weeks and do a recap. For $20.00, I think I made out ok........or did I? -- Regards, Gary...WZ1M Article: 341180 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Nice find, I think...... Date: 31 Aug 2006 14:26:02 -0700 Message-ID: <1157059562.268451.8300@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: gkb wrote: > Well, just had to stop at a yard sale today. Didn't see any radios so I > asked the question "you don't have any old radios do ya", to my surprise, > yes was the answer. Follow me. It was just to big to haul out of the closet > and I will take $20.00 for it. It is a Zenith console, 8-S-563X in really > nice shape. I was glad to see that the knobs were all ok. The chassis is > dusty and colored gold. All the tubes have the Zenith logo. The wave magnet > box is still all there with nice colors. Will get this into the shop in a > few weeks and do a recap. For $20.00, I think I made out ok........or did I? > > -- > Regards, > Gary...WZ1M At first glance it sure SOUNDS that way....Audiokarma members would probably call that a "score" but then I don't think their tube forum folks relate that way. Article: 341181 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Phil Nelson" References: <1156906034.411946.312510@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Speaker with torn cone Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 14:36:32 -0700 Message-ID: > Use Aleenes fabric glue for the rip, available at hobby stores. If the rip is big and you want to patch it, tea bag paper works well. Phil Nelson Article: 341182 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: Subject: Re: Nice find, I think...... Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 17:15:08 -0500 Message-ID: <44f7526f$0$8951$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> "gkb" wrote in message news:xfGdnVvi6ethzGrZnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@gwi.net... >It is a Zenith console, 8-S-563X in really > nice shape. I was glad to see that the knobs were all ok. The chassis is > dusty and colored gold. All the tubes have the Zenith logo. The wave > magnet > box is still all there with nice colors. Will get this into the shop in a > few weeks and do a recap. For $20.00, I think I made out ok........or did > I? As long as you like the radio you made out very well, I highly doubt you'd find one in the described condition for any less money. I have one. It's a nice set with good performance. Better looking than the version with the horizontal bars too IMO. Mind there is a lot of photofinish on the cabinet so take care not to wreck it. You'll run into rubber wire issues on this set, and you will want to check to ensure the power transformer is still good before doing anything else because this set uses the xfmr-eating 6X5 rectifier. Otherwise the chassis is straightforward. Good find IMO, and good luck with it -p. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com Article: 341183 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "L." References: <44f7526f$0$8951$88260bb3@free.teranews.com> Subject: Re: Nice find, I think...... Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:30:56 -0400 Message-ID: <44f76364$0$10210$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:44f7526f$0$8951$88260bb3@free.teranews.com... > "gkb" wrote in message > news:xfGdnVvi6ethzGrZnZ2dnUVZ_vadnZ2d@gwi.net... >>It is a Zenith console, 8-S-563X in really >> nice shape. I was glad to see that the knobs were all ok. The chassis is >> dusty and colored gold. All the tubes have the Zenith logo. The wave >> magnet >> box is still all there with nice colors. Will get this into the shop in a >> few weeks and do a recap. For $20.00, I think I made out ok........or did >> I? > > As long as you like the radio you made out very well, I highly doubt you'd > find one in the described condition for any less money. I have one. It's a > nice set with good performance. Better looking than the version with the > horizontal bars too IMO. Mind there is a lot of photofinish on the cabinet > so take care not to wreck it. > > You'll run into rubber wire issues on this set, and you will want to check > to ensure the power transformer is still good before doing anything else > because this set uses the xfmr-eating 6X5 rectifier. Otherwise the chassis > is straightforward. > > Good find IMO, and good luck with it > > -p. > > > -- > Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > I'm not in any way an expert on antiques, but that sure sounds like a decent find. Sounds like a nice project to get into - for winter. I'm not much into "cabinet" repairs or the dial plates like some folks in here but refurbishing the electronics is an interesting way to pass time. Sometimes, it is more enjoyable to do that - than to "repair" a radio for pay. I do repairs every day but when redoing a radio for myself - brings that extra satisfaction - money just can't buy. And I say doing them for myself for reason - most around here are too cheap to pay to get a radio redone. Good luck with your find - I hope it brings you lots of enjoyment. L. L. Article: 341184 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 31 Aug 2006 16:14:09 -0700 Message-ID: <1157066049.074434.236050@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > Shut up, Jim. Why would you make the ASSumption that JM wrote this when he graciously answered your questions at the start of this thread. That's a good example too. People will converse with you if you have something relevant to say. You prefer garbage in = garbage out though. You have the power to stop all this. Just stop acting like a damn fool and stay on topic. It's you, not everyone else. Really. Article: 341185 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Crosley "Fiver".... Message-ID: <%7KJg.21396$aJ.6453@attbi_s21> Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:19:23 GMT Hello everyone, Well I returned the Hallicrafters S-120 to its owner and he had another radio waiting. The radio is a Crosley "Fiver", chassis 517 and cabinet 6K, which has been in his family for a long time. The cabinet is in surprisingly good shape but the grill cloth is torn. Can someone direct me to a source for the service information (schematic, alignment procedure, etc) and replacement grill cloth? Also, I would like to add a fuse(s) to this set as I did on the S-120, but this is the first transformer set restoration. Any tips, recommendations or procedures will be welcome as always. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Bobby KC9IHK Article: 341186 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "L." References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> <1156885253.582989.181800@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1156889071.984413.224350@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1156919925.389622.257500@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156943588.451209.162540@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1156993046.820837.140760@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1157029824.257494.181090@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1157038393.055990.139460@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1157066049.074434.236050@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:20:31 -0400 Message-ID: <44f76ec3$0$10196$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "Anti-Dinius" wrote in message news:1157066049.074434.236050@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Steven wrote: >> Shut up, Jim. > > Why would you make the ASSumption that JM wrote this when he graciously > answered your questions at the start of this thread. > > That's a good example too. People will converse with you if you have > something relevant to say. You prefer garbage in = garbage out though. > You have the power to stop all this. Just stop acting like a damn > fool and stay on topic. > > It's you, not everyone else. Really. > Dimheis can't help it. The man (JM) done told you it wasn't "him" writing the stuff to you. Anti-Dinius - against your "ass"umption - could be a female! You don't think a female would have the guts to get in your case? I know women who would probably knock you on your dead ass and think nothing of it. I'm sure the one I have in mind - would do it for a price - anyone want to make donations? I'll bring the case of beer so we can watch. L. Article: 341187 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 31 Aug 2006 16:22:25 -0700 Message-ID: <1157066545.362517.276870@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1157031726.108183.46300@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > > Ah, but the dead cat had to be run over by the diesel FIRST! It's kind > of futile unless you have a massacree. This isn't funny even if you don't like cats. It's just not funny. Article: 341188 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Robert Sherrod Subject: Re: My Personal Radio Collection References: <1156978719.068467.186340@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 23:25:11 GMT Steven wrote: > Gary Tayman wrote: >> While many of you are busy cleaning your benches and taking photos, I've >> decided to start another thread. This one is not in the binaries, but on my >> website. As promised long ago, I've set up a page devoted to my personal >> radio collection. >> >> Compared to the thousands of valuable sets owned by some others on this >> list, it's certainly not much. However I indeed enjoy it, and would like to >> share it with others. >> >> You can go directly to the page by clicking here: >> >> http://mysite.verizon.net/caradio/collection.htm > > Only one tiny nitpick. Allied and Radio Shack did merge, but as I > understand the FTC tore the merger apart. I am not sure what happened > to Allied at the time. Radio Shack was afterward taken over by Tandy > Corporation, which had the vision to create what was possibly the most > popular product the company ever sold: the Tandy Computers TRS-80 line. > If you have one thing to complain about concerning the current company, > remember that the lines they sell today were heavily influenced by that > revolutionary entry priced computer that allowed businesses to run > business operations at under 3000 dollars, and much cheaper than other > systems as well as possibly better that using a PC of the period. The > Color Computer was a neat deal and had industry leading graphics that > game writers liked as well as gamers. > > When the TRS line slipped away, it was already too prohibitive to > replace it when x86 was already so advanced, and that's how the vendor > idea must have been born. It turned out to be a profitable one (sorta), > and now they close stores that have become high in overhead to them. Is > the electronics hobby moving in the opposite direction than RS? Have > these products just veered away from the evolutional needs of the > average RS customer? I don't know about the O&O stores, but the two > co-owned franchises I deal with are at least trying their best even if > I can't find much. > OK. Can someone tell me what this has to do with the topic at hand? Bobby KC9IHK Article: 341189 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: Belleek Neptune cups and saucers for sale Date: 31 Aug 2006 16:28:17 -0700 Message-ID: <1157066897.457031.196900@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1157033709_5975@sp6iad.superfeed.net> Steven wrote: > Photoresistant microfiber shell waxed with an obscure formula developed > by aboriginal Australian chemist using rare Tasmanian botanicals. > > Copper. Mined at the top of Mount Rainier and purified by ancient > Native American techniques assuring perfect convergence of electrons in > harmony with the Earth, Sky and all Yanni CDs. You are going downhill. Article: 341190 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" Subject: HELP! NEED INFO......Grebe Snycrophase Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:30:37 -0500 Message-ID: <8bmdnUwgH7a97GrZnZ2dnUVZ_smdnZ2d@sigecom.net> I have wanted a Grebe Syncrophase for some time now. Would those in the know check this out and give me some opinions as to what it should bring. It's condition. It's hard to tell but the case looks awfully light in color or is this an original finish. I did see a footprint of a capacitor and a modern one sort of hanging in its' place. That's about all I could tell from it. I don't have a clue as to its' value or what it should bring. (yes I've read the recent threads) :-) I would appreciate the wisdom and knowlege of the group on this one. About 23 hours to go. BTW...I recently proclaimed I wasn't buying another single thing for a while other than maybe a record or two. So here I go again. (but it IS small) http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=170022954549&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007 Thanks, Bruce Article: 341191 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "L." References: <1157031726.108183.46300@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <21267-44F701D4-112@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> <1157040284.558583.78380@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1157066545.362517.276870@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 19:31:10 -0400 Message-ID: <44f77142$0$10209$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> Steven wrote: > > Ah, but the dead cat had to be run over by the diesel FIRST! It's kind > of futile unless you have a massacree. Steven said - Look Ma - I made a funny - hahahahhaha....... Ma said - (slapping sounds - slap slap slap slap) - Boy I told you to shut your mouth - you're so full of shit. Article: 341192 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 31 Aug 2006 16:33:59 -0700 Message-ID: <1157067239.380599.121560@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Anti-Dinius wrote: > Steven wrote: > > Shut up, Jim. > > Why would you make the ASSumption that JM wrote this when he graciously > answered your questions at the start of this thread. Then chimed in with ":::: you, Dinius" My that's gracious for somebody who had to read the whole thread before answering. It doesn't make any sense for him to answer on the fly, or to leave the advice in if he could be that mad. About as much sense as that child molester Karr saying he killed JonBenet. At least he'll face his crimes in California etc. You are a liar. The garbage started over four years ago with Jeff, and it's been a losing game of taking pot shots for you ever since. You can sit here believing your garbage forever and it doesn't solve anything. > That's a good example too. People will converse with you if you have > something relevant to say. You prefer garbage in = garbage out though. > You have the power to stop all this. Just stop acting like a damn > fool and stay on topic. Another lie. There is more OT than T here lately, and you object even if I give sound advice. WTF DO you think you are, Nero? > It's you, not everyone else. Really. It's EVERYBODY, no exception. Retarded accusers included. The Nazis were hung. All you can get is jollies arguing. Article: 341193 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bruce Mercer" References: Subject: Re: Another eBay marketing ploy? Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:38:37 -0500 Message-ID: "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:ed736g$sd7$1@reader2.panix.com... > > Here's a beaut: I just got an e-mail from "Ebay Small Business > Store Limited " (note the Laos TLD). They want > me to sell, of all things, their explosion-proof speakers made in > China to a North American clientele. > "Explosion proof speakers"? Knowing you, I'm surprised you didn't bite on that one right away. :-)))! B. Article: 341194 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 31 Aug 2006 16:47:42 -0700 Message-ID: <1157068061.946790.188780@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > > Then chimed in with ":::: you, Dinius" My that's gracious for somebody > who had to read the whole thread before answering. It doesn't make any > sense for him to answer on the fly, or to leave the advice in if he > could be that mad. > That was regarding some jibberish you put at the end of a perfectly valid question. It was a reaction to something you wrote. Garbage in = garbage out. Article: 341195 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 31 Aug 2006 16:50:42 -0700 Message-ID: <1157068242.477465.89110@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> L. wrote: > "Anti-Dinius" wrote in message > news:1157066049.074434.236050@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > > > Steven wrote: > >> Shut up, Jim. > > > > Why would you make the ASSumption that JM wrote this when he graciously > > answered your questions at the start of this thread. > > > > That's a good example too. People will converse with you if you have > > something relevant to say. You prefer garbage in = garbage out though. > > You have the power to stop all this. Just stop acting like a damn > > fool and stay on topic. > > > > It's you, not everyone else. Really. > > > > Dimheis can't help it. The man (JM) done told you it wasn't "him" writing > the stuff to you. Anti-Dinius - against your "ass"umption - could be a > female! You don't think a female would have the guts to get in your case? I > know women who would probably knock you on your dead ass and think nothing > of it. I'm sure the one I have in mind - would do it for a price - anyone > want to make donations? I'll bring the case of beer so we can watch. > > L. I don't care and I know two women in the entire group. Neither of them is stupid and wouldn't waste time posting HERE either as they have my email and my ear. Article: 341196 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 31 Aug 2006 16:56:55 -0700 Message-ID: <1157068615.183590.150830@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Bob in Phx wrote: > hard luck stories to relatives, friends (used loosely) etc will sometimes > gather in a bit of cash... my vote is for the foodstamp, defrauding > scheme... Most often its in conjunction with a local business. The business > give a percentage of the face value as cash...The un-educated hungry for > cash recipients of food stamps and such go for this in a big way.... Of > course, all of this is just my opinion and is not a slander to anyone..... > "Anti-Dinius" wrote in message > news:1156889071.984413.224350@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > > Bob in Phx wrote: > >> they work odd jobs for cash, or defraud the government by selling off > >> food > >> stamps etc, or they pan handle.... there are lots of ways, someone with > >> time > >> on there hands to make a couple of bucks for disposable income. > >> > >> > > Dinius work? I can't picture that. Sell something that gets him food? > > Not likely. Panhandling? Maybe but when can he fit that in with all > > the time he spends on Usenet. > > > > He's won $97 worth of stuff on eBay alone this month and that doesn't > > include shipping (some of it's bulky too). Nobody lent me money to buy them nor would they. I have less than 400.00 in monthly obligations since I sold my car and paid off my debts. It's wonderful you stalk ME and scrutinize what I do. Pay your bills, Belisle. Article: 341197 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 31 Aug 2006 16:57:01 -0700 Message-ID: <1157068621.020339.142720@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Bob in Phx wrote: > hard luck stories to relatives, friends (used loosely) etc will sometimes > gather in a bit of cash... my vote is for the foodstamp, defrauding > scheme... Most often its in conjunction with a local business. The business > give a percentage of the face value as cash...The un-educated hungry for > cash recipients of food stamps and such go for this in a big way.... Of > course, all of this is just my opinion and is not a slander to anyone..... > "Anti-Dinius" wrote in message > news:1156889071.984413.224350@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > > Bob in Phx wrote: > >> they work odd jobs for cash, or defraud the government by selling off > >> food > >> stamps etc, or they pan handle.... there are lots of ways, someone with > >> time > >> on there hands to make a couple of bucks for disposable income. > >> > >> > > Dinius work? I can't picture that. Sell something that gets him food? > > Not likely. Panhandling? Maybe but when can he fit that in with all > > the time he spends on Usenet. > > > > He's won $97 worth of stuff on eBay alone this month and that doesn't > > include shipping (some of it's bulky too). Nobody lent me money to buy them nor would they. I have less than 400.00 in monthly obligations since I sold my car and paid off my debts. It's wonderful you stalk ME and scrutinize what I do. Pay your bills, Belisle. Article: 341198 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? END? Only here, after 160 more posts! Date: 31 Aug 2006 17:00:25 -0700 Message-ID: <1157068825.116639.146900@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: jim menning wrote: > "Steven" wrote in message > news:1157035666.996336.159370@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > > >> > > Anti-Dinius wrote: > >> > >> The items on the list above don't go over well because it's a technical > >> group and the discussions will only be interesting to a small group > >> that are into the subject matter. Anything besides facts will tend to > >> be thought of as irritating noise. > > > > This is a technical group. If you say so, Menning. > > > > > You stupid fuck! Quit bringing me back into this stuff. I don't use aliases. I'll > call you a fat, lazy, useless piece of shit, and not be afraid at all to sign my name > to the post. > > Now leave me alone if you don't want to hear from me. > > jim menning You're going to put an end to this or I certainly won't. Article: 341199 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Speaker with torn cone Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:03:29 -0400 Message-ID: <12feu6kht8t8icc@news.supernews.com> References: <1156906034.411946.312510@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:goudnaEJvv_6y2rZnZ2dnUVZ_qOdnZ2d@giganews.com... >> Use Aleenes fabric glue for the rip, available at hobby stores. > > If the rip is big and you want to patch it, tea bag paper works well. > > Phil Nelson Or a used dryer sheet. Gives it that just washed scent, too! cheers, Frank Article: 341200 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 31 Aug 2006 17:03:54 -0700 Message-ID: <1157069034.041083.20150@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> References: <1157031726.108183.46300@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Anti-Dinius wrote: > Steven wrote: > > > > Ah, but the dead cat had to be run over by the diesel FIRST! It's kind > > of futile unless you have a massacree. > > This isn't funny even if you don't like cats. It's just not funny. Have three I feed every day. The original reference wasn't funny either, sarcasm befit it. I've had three run over myself. Think before you shoot back, because I grow tired of explaining shit to you. Children learn faster. Article: 341201 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "L." References: <1157033709_5975@sp6iad.superfeed.net> <1157035326.253868.117300@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1157039644.182523.4680@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1157040123.551177.315660@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1157066897.457031.196900@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Belleek Neptune cups and saucers for sale Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:04:24 -0400 Message-ID: <44f7790c$0$10212$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> > Steven wrote: >> Photoresistant microfiber shell waxed with an obscure formula developed >> by aboriginal Australian chemist using rare Tasmanian botanicals. >> >> Copper. Mined at the top of Mount Rainier and purified by ancient >> Native American techniques assuring perfect convergence of electrons in >> harmony with the Earth, Sky and all Yanni CDs. Dude, you need your meds increased BIG TIME! Article: 341202 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 31 Aug 2006 17:12:58 -0700 Message-ID: <1157069578.742081.208970@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1157031726.108183.46300@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > Anti-Dinius wrote: > > Steven wrote: > > > > > > Ah, but the dead cat had to be run over by the diesel FIRST! It's kind > > > of futile unless you have a massacree. > > > > This isn't funny even if you don't like cats. It's just not funny. > > Have three I feed every day. > Nobody cares about your personal life. > The original reference wasn't funny either, sarcasm befit it. > I don't think the original post was a joke. > I've had three run over myself. Think before you shoot back, because I > grow tired of explaining shit to you. Children learn faster. I did think. I think it wasn't funny. What exactly did you explain? Article: 341203 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 31 Aug 2006 17:25:08 -0700 Message-ID: <1157070308.275850.92440@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1157031726.108183.46300@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Okay, fine. Here's anti-dinius. ath: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: anti-din...@lycos.com Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 29 Aug 2006 06:19:36 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 50 Message-ID: <1156857576.312411.28640@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <1156818921.438695.94220@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1156822984.872428.100060@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <58WIg.7893$Tl4.5287@dukeread06> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.12.116.72<<<<< How do I pull this here, and that there, with the same ISP and the same computer? Go ahead, mine is highlighted below... Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1156857581 25782 127.0.0.1 (29 Aug 2006 13:19:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 13:19:41 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; AOL 4.0; Windows 98),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) X-HTTP-Via: HTTP/1.1 Turboweb [mtc-tf032 8.4.1], HTTP/1.1 cache-mtc-ab08.proxy.aol.com[400C7448] (Traffic-Server/6.1.2 [uScM]) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=64.12.116.72; posting-account=3dRyBw0AAAA5olTODdF_adA7FAZn-IFf Ken wrote: > How about De-codeing this post, Stevie????? > > Steven wrote: > > > Europeans with Fig Newtons not Newton's Laws. Heavy lager not heavy > > water. > > > > Pregnant men are next. > > > > Huh? Been done? Still phony too... > > > > They had a guy with a twin in his belly but that was uplifting > > reading...yeah > > > > They have to blog SOMETHING my friend? I'll take a crack at it. After his gaffe regarding the spelling, he felt it was necessary to belittle the topic in order to redeem himself. It's too far gone for that though. ---Europeans with Fig Newtons not Newton's Laws. Newton's laws = real physics, Fig Newtons = guy dancing in silly costume. ---Heavy lager not heavy water. Heavy water = real physics, heavy lager = they're drunk ---Pregnant men are next. --- Huh? Been done? Still phony too... ---They had a guy with a twin in his belly but that was uplifting reading...yeah Seems to imply they're making it all up. ---They have to blog SOMETHING my friend? Perhaps an explanation why he claims they made it up. They need something to write about in their blogs. It's unclear why the question mark is there. Drunken Europeans doing silly things and making up fake technology so they have blog material says Dinius. With 774,000 google hits on the subject, I tend to disagree. Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "Steven" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 29 Aug 2006 08:19:17 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 48 Message-ID: <1156864756.880916.217180@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.103.41.104<<<< THAT'S a lot of hassle, even for me. Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1156864762 27993 127.0.0.1 (29 Aug 2006 15:19:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 Aug 2006 15:19:22 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 98; Win 9x 4.90),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com; posting-host=168.103.41.104; posting-account=LDYAvQ0AAADZRPoMd8VG8UbX6p8bk4pQ Stewart Schooley wrote: > Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > > > > > > Stewart Schooley wrote: > > > >> It's not about radios, but interesting from a technical standpoint. > >> What interests me the most is how these guys are bringing attention to > >> what they are doing and the claims they are making. > > > > > > Skippy's drooling aside... > > > > On Steorn: > > http://www.steorn.net/en/technology.aspx?p=5 > > > > And on a related subject: > > http://www.cheniere.org/ > > > > You're right, they are fascinating projects. > > > > Jeff > > > Jeff, > > After looking at your links and others on the subject, I think that the > two guys from Steorn are not involved in any technological development > at all, but are acting as agents for others who are. > > Fascinating indeed, but I have to be careful about all this. I've been > down this road before with other "new developments" only to find out > they were a lot of hooey, or in this case, blarney. > > Stewart Middlemen tend to accentuate hooey if 15 min of shame helps pay the Visa. And yes, I looked long enough to figure it was hooey on my own. Jeff, why don't you and "anti-dinius" get a good match of Rock-em Sock-em Robots (the old knock the others head off in a boxing ring game) going on? You need to relieve stress without the prospects of alcohol based toxicity problems (hangover) in the morning. Stewart, why did you even bring this up? OKAY. I hope you realize that the your account won't be closed normally until thirty days of inactivity, which makes you rather vulnerable unless you are holding an illegal email account or something. You just can't close it period unless you don't use it anymore. I'm going to do a WHOIS and be back. Article: 341204 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 31 Aug 2006 17:37:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1157071033.304354.179150@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> References: <1157031726.108183.46300@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > Okay, fine. Here's anti-dinius. 64.12.116.72 Record Type: IP Address OrgName: America Online, Inc. OrgID: AMERIC-158 Address: 10600 Infantry Ridge Road City: Manassas StateProv: VA PostalCode: 20109 Country: US NetRange: 64.12.0.0 - 64.12.255.255 CIDR: 64.12.0.0/16 NetName: AOL-MTC NetHandle: NET-64-12-0-0-1 Parent: NET-64-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Assignment NameServer: DNS-01.NS.AOL.COM NameServer: DNS-02.NS.AOL.COM Comment: RegDate: 1999-12-13 Updated: 1999-12-16 RTechHandle: AOL-NOC-ARIN RTechName: America Online, Inc. RTechPhone: +1-703-265-4670 RTechEmail: domains@aol.net That was easy enough. Now me... 168.103.41.104 Record Type: IP Address OrgName: Qwest Communications Corporation OrgID: QCC-22 Address: 1801 California Street City: Denver StateProv: CO PostalCode: 80202 Country: US NetRange: 168.103.0.0 - 168.103.255.255 CIDR: 168.103.0.0/16 NetName: QWEST-INET-120 NetHandle: NET-168-103-0-0-1 Parent: NET-168-0-0-0-0 NetType: Direct Allocation NameServer: AUTHNS1.MPLS.QWEST.NET NameServer: AUTHNS2.DNVR.QWEST.NET NameServer: AUTHNS3.STTL.QWEST.NET Comment: RegDate: 1994-03-15 Updated: 2006-05-15 .... Obviously me, and obviously an AOL user telling 2-3 fibs. Article: 341205 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: OT: Have you read about steorn? Date: 31 Aug 2006 17:40:14 -0700 Message-ID: <1157071214.048931.119460@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1157031726.108183.46300@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > Okay, fine. Here's anti-dinius. > And then what? You're the one with all of the cursing and hostility. If I've done anything wrong then you're wrong too. Yeah, you have every right to post here, blah, blah, blah but then so do I. If you want to try to screw with me then remember that you're the one that appears to be getting a bigger handout from the government then you need. Maybe someone should do something about that. Hmmm... Article: 341206 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Belleek Neptune cups and saucers for sale Date: 31 Aug 2006 17:50:33 -0700 Message-ID: <1157071833.581876.217240@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1157033709_5975@sp6iad.superfeed.net> Anti-Dinius wrote: > Steven wrote: > > Photoresistant microfiber shell waxed with an obscure formula developed > > by aboriginal Australian chemist using rare Tasmanian botanicals. > > > > Copper. Mined at the top of Mount Rainier and purified by ancient > > Native American techniques assuring perfect convergence of electrons in > > harmony with the Earth, Sky and all Yanni CDs. > > You are going downhill. No, Mr. AOL USER, you are. Want me to make an uphill battle for you? Article: 341207 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Belleek Neptune cups and saucers for sale Date: 31 Aug 2006 18:02:03 -0700 Message-ID: <1157072523.138149.143030@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1157033709_5975@sp6iad.superfeed.net> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > "L." wrote: > > > > > Steven wrote: > > >> Photoresistant microfiber shell waxed with an obscure formula developed > > >> by aboriginal Australian chemist using rare Tasmanian botanicals. > > >> > > >> Copper. Mined at the top of Mount Rainier and purified by ancient > > >> Native American techniques assuring perfect convergence of electrons in > > >> harmony with the Earth, Sky and all Yanni CDs. > > > > Dude, you need your meds increased BIG TIME! > > > Yeah, he's not taking enough Arsenic. I'm sure he wears the old > lace. Michael A. Terrell IP address 24.110.34.161 He's obvious. L. a coretel.net user, looks to be posting through Giganews. CoreTel is located in Pennsylvania, and the site says, "As a CLEC, CoreTel has achieved interconnection with the RBOC network throughout Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, and NYC; with data centers in Baltimore, Damascus, Easton, and Mount Airy, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Harrisburg, Altoona, Wilkes-Barre, and NYC". Lots of fun information to present if need be. Article: 341208 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: Belleek Neptune cups and saucers for sale Date: 31 Aug 2006 18:04:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1157072640.169625.131930@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1157033709_5975@sp6iad.superfeed.net> Steven wrote: > No, Mr. AOL USER, you are. Want me to make an uphill battle for you? If you can keep it in the realm of antique radios that would be great! Why are you so upset about someone posting garbage to the radio group? If it bothers you then you should be able to see why it bothers people when you do it. Why don't you start a nice thread about the restoration of your Zenith. You'll get some good replies to that. Too boring without the nonsense? Maybe this isn't the group for you then. You're no stranger to usenet. There's gotta be a group out there that fits your needs. Article: 341209 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 31 Aug 2006 18:06:51 -0700 Message-ID: <1157072811.699254.156090@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Michael A. Terrell IP address 24.110.34.161 He's obvious wrote: > Anti-Dinius of AOL.com wrote: > > > > Steven wrote: > > > > > > Then chimed in with ":::: you, Dinius" My that's gracious for somebody > > > who had to read the whole thread before answering. It doesn't make any > > > sense for him to answer on the fly, or to leave the advice in if he > > > could be that mad. > > > > > That was regarding some jibberish you put at the end of a perfectly > > valid question. It was a reaction to something you wrote. Garbage in > > = garbage out. > > > Or to simplify the equation: Dinius in = Garbage out. He could fill > a landfill with his discharge. Maybe they should drill one of those > Methane recovery wells up his ass. Then he would finally be useful > because it could power a small city. > > > -- > Service to my country? Been there, Done that, and I've got my DD214 to > prove it. > Member of DAV #85. > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 341210 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 31 Aug 2006 18:08:08 -0700 Message-ID: <1157072888.802990.173520@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Anti-Dinius the AOL stalker wrote: > Steven wrote: > > > > Then chimed in with ":::: you, Dinius" My that's gracious for somebody > > who had to read the whole thread before answering. It doesn't make any > > sense for him to answer on the fly, or to leave the advice in if he > > could be that mad. > > > That was regarding some jibberish you put at the end of a perfectly > valid question. It was a reaction to something you wrote. Garbage in > = garbage out. You sent it, AOL man, I returned it. Article: 341211 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 31 Aug 2006 18:09:25 -0700 Message-ID: <1157072964.985468.306300@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Or to simplify the equation: Dinius in = Garbage out. He could fill > a landfill with his discharge. Maybe they should drill one of those > Methane recovery wells up his ass. Then he would finally be useful > because it could power a small city. > Now THAT was funny! Article: 341212 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: A real topic for somebody who will answer: Info on B+K 970 Radio Analyst (disc. 1976) Date: 31 Aug 2006 18:12:27 -0700 Message-ID: <1157073147.111033.191530@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1156879380.954694.119060@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> Steven wrote: > Michael A. Terrell IP address 24.110.34.161 He's obvious wrote: So, what are you going to do with all of the IP addresses? You've insulted about a half dozen people in the last few days. If you want to go there then you'd be gone too, Dinius. Article: 341213 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: My Personal Radio Collection Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:12:53 -0400 Message-ID: <12ff28ntbgpj263@news.supernews.com> References: <1156978719.068467.186340@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44F78219.BA3D94F6@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44F78219.BA3D94F6@earthlink.net... > Robert Sherrod wrote: >> > What part of "Don't feed the Skippy troll" do you need explained? Pot, kettle, black, plonk Article: 341214 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "L." References: <1157033709_5975@sp6iad.superfeed.net> <1157035326.253868.117300@74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com> <1157039644.182523.4680@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1157040123.551177.315660@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1157066897.457031.196900@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <44f7790c$0$10212$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> <44F78282.4C5AEA26@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Belleek Neptune cups and saucers for sale Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:16:24 -0400 Message-ID: <44f789ec$0$10197$ecde5a14@news.coretel.net> "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:44F78282.4C5AEA26@earthlink.net... > "L." wrote: >> >> > Steven wrote: >> >> Photoresistant microfiber shell waxed with an obscure formula >> >> developed >> >> by aboriginal Australian chemist using rare Tasmanian botanicals. >> >> >> >> Copper. Mined at the top of Mount Rainier and purified by ancient >> >> Native American techniques assuring perfect convergence of electrons >> >> in >> >> harmony with the Earth, Sky and all Yanni CDs. >> >> Dude, you need your meds increased BIG TIME! > > > Yeah, he's not taking enough Arsenic. I'm sure he wears the old > lace. > That jibberish reminded me of someone on an LSD trip or someone in dire need of meds......... I've taken quite a few people to the nut house that were "WAY OUT THERE" and he certainly seems to fit that category. L. Article: 341215 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <1157057404.119324.305490@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Philco 48-150 Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:16:47 -0400 Message-ID: <44f789fd$0$1009$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> That battery is your standard Eveready 759 Farm Pack. You could probably find and restore an old Sears Powr Shiftr and run the set on AC. "Daniel Russell" wrote in message news:1157057404.119324.305490@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > Hi group back again, > Working on a bettery operated Philco 48-150. The battery is missing but > radio looks to be intact. I have the riders for this radio and it looks > like it needs a 90V battery. The philco part number is p-60D-11L. I > know i will never find one, but if anyone knows what to maybee use as a > power supply to permanatly put in this it would be a big help. > Thanks > Dan > Article: 341216 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Belleek Neptune cups and saucers for sale Date: 31 Aug 2006 18:18:00 -0700 Message-ID: <1157073480.529719.199200@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1157033709_5975@sp6iad.superfeed.net> Anti-Dinius wrote: > Steven wrote: > > > No, Mr. AOL USER, you are. Want me to make an uphill battle for you? > > If you can keep it in the realm of antique radios that would be great! > > Why are you so upset about someone posting garbage to the radio group? > If it bothers you then you should be able to see why it bothers people > when you do it. > > Why don't you start a nice thread about the restoration of your Zenith. > You'll get some good replies to that. Too boring without the > nonsense? Maybe this isn't the group for you then. You're no stranger > to usenet. There's gotta be a group out there that fits your needs. The Zenith is being brought to operating order by a friend in Boise who knows more than I do about the chassis and restored one for sale recently. It's getting late for wood working as the weather is starting to turn. Most of the sockets were fairly loose but the good thing perhaps was that it had been worked on before and had newer capacitors and little indication of the lousy rubber insulation commonly complained about here. All the parts looked like they were in good order for the most part. There's gotta be four or five whiners that can keep their fairly bigoted egos silent more often. PERIOD. I only know two current posters using AOL right now, and matching an IP won't be hard. Savvy? Article: 341217 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: Belleek Neptune cups and saucers for sale Date: 31 Aug 2006 18:20:13 -0700 Message-ID: <1157073613.816562.310720@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> References: <1157033709_5975@sp6iad.superfeed.net> L. coretel.net via Giganews poster wrote: > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message > news:44F78282.4C5AEA26@earthlink.net... > > "L." wrote: > >> > >> > Steven wrote: > >> >> Photoresistant microfiber shell waxed with an obscure formula > >> >> developed > >> >> by aboriginal Australian chemist using rare Tasmanian botanicals. > >> >> > >> >> Copper. Mined at the top of Mount Rainier and purified by ancient > >> >> Native American techniques assuring perfect convergence of electrons > >> >> in > >> >> harmony with the Earth, Sky and all Yanni CDs. > >> > >> Dude, you need your meds increased BIG TIME! > > > > > > Yeah, he's not taking enough Arsenic. I'm sure he wears the old > > lace. > > > > That jibberish reminded me of someone on an LSD trip or someone in dire need > of meds......... I've taken quite a few people to the nut house that were > "WAY OUT THERE" and he certainly seems to fit that category. > > L. New York's mental health system was an abysmal mess then. Article: 341218 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: Re: My Personal Radio Collection Date: 31 Aug 2006 18:27:19 -0700 Message-ID: <1157074039.770606.273930@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com> References: Robert Sherrod wrote: > Steven wrote: > > Gary Tayman wrote: > >> While many of you are busy cleaning your benches and taking photos, I've > >> decided to start another thread. This one is not in the binaries, but on my > >> website. As promised long ago, I've set up a page devoted to my personal > >> radio collection. > >> > >> Compared to the thousands of valuable sets owned by some others on this > >> list, it's certainly not much. However I indeed enjoy it, and would like to > >> share it with others. > >> > >> You can go directly to the page by clicking here: > >> > >> http://mysite.verizon.net/caradio/collection.htm > > > > Only one tiny nitpick. Allied and Radio Shack did merge, but as I > > understand the FTC tore the merger apart. I am not sure what happened > > to Allied at the time. Radio Shack was afterward taken over by Tandy > > Corporation, which had the vision to create what was possibly the most > > popular product the company ever sold: the Tandy Computers TRS-80 line. > > If you have one thing to complain about concerning the current company, > > remember that the lines they sell today were heavily influenced by that > > revolutionary entry priced computer that allowed businesses to run > > business operations at under 3000 dollars, and much cheaper than other > > systems as well as possibly better that using a PC of the period. The > > Color Computer was a neat deal and had industry leading graphics that > > game writers liked as well as gamers. > > > > When the TRS line slipped away, it was already too prohibitive to > > replace it when x86 was already so advanced, and that's how the vendor > > idea must have been born. It turned out to be a profitable one (sorta), > > and now they close stores that have become high in overhead to them. Is > > the electronics hobby moving in the opposite direction than RS? Have > > these products just veered away from the evolutional needs of the > > average RS customer? I don't know about the O&O stores, but the two > > co-owned franchises I deal with are at least trying their best even if > > I can't find much. > > > OK. Can someone tell me what this has to do with the topic at hand? > > Bobby > KC9IHK Read his website and find the Allied/Radio Shack reference, which I commented might not be the case anymore as the merger was stopped by the FTC to my knowledge. I added the TRS-80 part because it also helped give a poosible explanation of the "downfall" of Radio Shack, which is where the subject of Radio Shack invariably goes. Did you visit Mr. Tayman's site? I replied to him in specific when I acknowledged the site and mentioned something I thought to either add to or correct. Bobby, have you got this disease too? Article: 341219 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Anti-Dinius" Subject: Re: Belleek Neptune cups and saucers for sale Date: 31 Aug 2006 18:35:12 -0700 Message-ID: <1157074512.154459.133670@e3g2000cwe.googlegroups.com> References: <1157033709_5975@sp6iad.superfeed.net> Steven wrote: > > There's gotta be four or five whiners that can keep their fairly > bigoted egos silent more often. PERIOD. You should learn how to keep quiet. It's you and you can make it all go away. > > I only know two current posters using AOL right now, and matching an IP > won't be hard. Savvy? And then what? Your ISP access and gov't handout will be in jeopardy too. Knock yourself out. Article: 341220 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 20:38:12 -0500 From: jbyrns@rcn.com (John Byrns) Subject: 45 playing time? (was: Re: RCA automobile 45 changer?) Message-ID: References: In article , glog@sympatico.ca wrote: > Josh..... I see them occaisionly here in the Toronto area at flea > markets, antique markets and the like. They did make on, and I put one > in my 53 Roadmaster convertable. > It wasn't a changer, but a single play unit and I believe it was called > the RCA Ultra-Fi 45. > > Slide the 45 in, press the bar to lock and put the stylus to the > record and music to go. They were really hard on the record though. > Pressure had to be high to deal with the bumps of the road. > > There were two versions of the RCA, a single player aftermarket (I > bought mine at Canadian Tire in 1958) and a large multi disc changer > unit made specifically for Chrysler as a option. See: > > http://ookworld.com/hiwayhifi.html > > also: > > http://www.imperialclub.com/Yr/1960/RecordPlayer/index.htm The Chrysler brochure at the second link says that the capacity of the 45 changer is 14 records, which will play for up to 2 hours automatically. To achieve a total playing time of two hours from 14 sides, the average playing time would have to be in excess of 8.5 minutes per side. The 45 EPs in my collection typically run between 6 and 7 minutes per side, which would give a playing time of only about 1.6 Hours for 14 sides. Does anyone know what the official maximum playing time per side is for a 45 EP? I am sure they can be easily stretched to the 8 minutes and 34 seconds per side required to get 2 hours of playing time from 14 sides, but what was the maximum spec.? Somewhere around here I have a paper which gives all the gory details that went into the design of the 45 RPM record, but finding it would be a tall order, especially since I don't remember what magazine or journal it appeared in. The main thing I remember from the paper was that it contained a proof that 45 RPM was the optimal rotational speed for the record. I don't remember what the givens were, size was probably one, and playing time might have been another. There were pages and pages of scientific calculations involved in calculating the optimum rotational speed, as well as the other design parameters. I will have to root around and see if I can locate the paper. This all makes me curious how the other two popular speeds, 78 RPM and 33 and a third RPM were arrived at? Does anyone know? Were they essentially just picked out of the air, or were there good reasons for their choice? Regards, John Byrns Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ Article: 341221 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven" Subject: OKAY, for the last time... Date: 31 Aug 2006 18:40:16 -0700 Message-ID: <1157074816.230162.287400@h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: FUCKING PAY ATTENTION AND READ WHAT I'M RESPONDING TO OR BE QUIET CANADIANS TOO, JOHANSEN. I don't know if you're old and can't do it or rabid and stupid but maybe you need more pills. Don't make Britney Spears look like Mozart, and I grow tired of saying retarded so go see the Wizard and GET A BRAIN. I'll leave when I die, which you will still have no control over. You're not fazing me much but you go on these little crusades and gum up everybody else's fun and then it's archived for all to see 100 years >from now. Going on a witchhunt to see if you can boot my ISP service will eventually backfire on you. You will die before you see any perceived benefits. Watching you subvert your own group would be funny were I not here too. Article: 341222 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Hagstar" Subject: What Does the 12th Tube DO? Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 21:40:02 -0400 Message-ID: <12ff3rub6gne075@corp.supernews.com> Look at this- http://www.nostalgiaair.org/Resources/422/M0013422.htm Notice the only difference between a 41-250 and a 41-300 is one added loctal, a dual diode (note box on schematic lower right). BUT what does it DO, if anything? John H. Article: 341223 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "RadioGary" Subject: Re: Do you think this Zenith is worth that much? Date: 31 Aug 2006 18:48:18 -0700 Message-ID: <1157075297.937888.168810@m79g2000cwm.googlegroups.com> References: <1156026566.885571.284840@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> So where were your balls when it came time to introduce yourself? You're a funny old man, Menning. jim menning wrote: > "RadioGary" wrote in message > news:1156706575.277698.161730@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > jim menning wrote: > >> "RadioGary" wrote in message > >> news:1156616836.476140.105500@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > >> > > >> > Sorry CL Antiques, you are the weakest link. > >> > > >> > > >> > >> At least they aren't NARU right now. > >> > > > My choice, I can no longer deal with the spam generated by Ebay, the > > radios I've ordered all poorly packaged and damaged on delivery, greed, > > and insanity. > > You know no one believes that. You can't make yourself NARU by choice, only eBay can > designate you NARU. Even to close an eBay account is a 6-month procedure, in order > to give all possible current and future conflicts time to be resolved. Your account > was suspended by eBay for your rule violations, you didn't voluntarily shut it down. > > > > > I'll stick with the radio flea markets from this moment on Mr. Menning. > > At least you know who you're dealing with in person. > > I wouldn't bet on that. What's really funny is that we spoke together at the Carol > Stream meet for over 20 minutes several months ago, and you didn't even know it was > me you were talking to. ;o) > > jim menning Article: 341224 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "graham" References: <12ff3rub6gne075@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: What Does the 12th Tube DO? Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2006 18:52:54 -0700 Message-ID: <6Lidna2u9N3vD2rZnZ2dnUVZ_vOdnZ2d@comcast.com> "Hagstar" wrote in message news:12ff3rub6gne075@corp.supernews.com... > Look at this- > http://www.nostalgiaair.org/Resources/422/M0013422.htm > > Notice the only difference between a 41-250 and a 41-300 is one added loctal, a > dual diode (note box on schematic lower right). BUT what does it DO, if anything? .. it is all part of the "step program", completes the dozen, lowers the factor, helps align feng shui and generally promotes well being .. you also get to use more of your tubes ... ... just go with it ... Article: 341225 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "AuroraOldRadios" Subject: Re: What Does the 12th Tube DO? Date: 31 Aug 2006 19:16:34 -0700 Message-ID: <1157076994.570734.35950@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> References: <12ff3rub6gne075@corp.supernews.com> Are you sure you don't mean 41-295? 41-295 is closer to 41-300 than 41-250. The 7a6 appears to be used as avc, afc, or something similar.