From Aquatfs@aol.com Sat Jul 1 22:06:42 2000 Date: Sat, 1 Jul 2000 18:59:32 EDT From: Aquatfs@aol.com To: sanet-mg@cals.ncsu.edu Subject: Aquaculture and Hydrolized Water I'm catching up on my E-mail, and would like to comment on two previous postings: Sustainable Aquaculture?: I would like to remind everyone that "traditional" aquaculture has been around for centuries in countries outside of North America. The Chinese used to have small scale integrated farming systems that put the waste from pigs / chickens into ponds that produced algae that was consumed by fish, and the pond water with fish feces was used to irrigate / fertilize rice fields, where the crop waste was fed back to the pigs / chickens. The factory farming of fish is a recent "invention", and includes the farming of carnivorous fish instead of herbivorous fish. It is not necessary to harvest the oceans to produce fish meal to feed herbivorous fish. Unfortunately, in the name of faster growth, many fish farmers will feed fish meal based diets to herbivorous fish. This is similar to the practice of feeding all kinds of proteins to cows, which were designed to be herbivorous ruminants. In short, aquaculture can be practiced in sustainable and non-sustainable ways, depending on the species selected, the design of the farm, the intensity of production, and the method by which the farm is integrated into the surrounding ecosystem. Electrolytic Water: I was at a trade show years ago and purchased report, in English, on Super Oxide Water. The process involves the electrolysis of tap water containing some added salt. The manufacturer claimed that two water fractions are produced: one with a lower pH and high ORP, and one with a higher pH and low ORP. The report presents data on the antimicrobial effects on a variety of microorganisms, of the low pH fraction. There was even data on the effect on "lawn disease germs". Unfortunately, nowhere in the report do they give the name of the Japanese company that manufactures the unit. Before considering this technology as the answer to all problems, the following should be considered: 1. The Super Oxide Water (low pH fraction) is stated to have 440 ppm of chloride and 10 ppm of hypochlorite. Something to think about before this is sprayed in the field. 2. If this sanitizer is used on post harvest crops, I would be interested to see if there is any data on the shelf life (favorable or unfavorable) after treatment. 3. In determining the cost of this treatment, I believe that the Japanese hydrolysis units are pretty spendy. I would also like to see data on the electrical cost for hydrolyzing each gallon of water. Also, are the electrodes expendable, and if so, what is the expected life and replacement cost? How much salt is required per gallon of water treated? Alan Ismond, P.Eng. Aqua-Terra Consultants To Unsubscribe: Email majordomo@cals.ncsu.edu with the command "unsubscribe sanet-mg". If you receive the digest format, use the command "unsubscribe sanet-mg-digest". To Subscribe to Digest: Email majordomo@cals.ncsu.edu with the command "subscribe sanet-mg-digest". All messages to sanet-mg are archived at: http://www.sare.org/san/htdocs/hypermail