From fdemden@agric.uwa.edu.au Sat Nov 13 15:11:44 1999 Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 14:13:12 From: Frank D'Emden Reply-To: PERMA@eepo.com.au To: Permaculture WA Subject: Re: new Permacult web site Howdy folks, Yes, keep it rolling! Those sheep may be called Awassis, or South African Mutton Merinos in W.A.. I know some people (James and Chris Ryan at West Point Pastoral Co., Bedford Harbour, West Australia) who are mating the merinos to rams of this breed. They grow very fast, have a herding nature, and a very strong constitution. Speaking to the stock manager at West Point this week and apparently some of the merino mums are dying from Barber's Poll worm, but the first cross lambs are having no troubles. Their genetic traits are very strong so the merino ewes can be used for mating to source male progeny. I have a sneaking suspicion that they may also be suitable for milking, given that they have a rapid lamb growth rate. They have something like an 8 month gestation period, and the rams don't need to be pulled out of the "herd". At 08:57 PM 11/10/99 +1030, you wrote: >----- Original Message ----- >From: Larry London >To: Permaculture WA >Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 1999 4:38 PM >Subject: Re: new Permacult web site > > >> Helo Pete (and Wes)! Again. >> >> Perfectly good PC list; lets keep it going. >> Roll on gentlemen. Pull those Akubras on >> and let it rip. >> >> A subject: >> >> SHEEP >> >> What are good varieties for small scale farming? >> Easy to care for, disease resistance, low maintenance. >> Grown for food. >> >> I have heard of a few varieties that fit this description >> but do not know their names. > >Hi Lawrence > >I recently saw What was called a "fat tailed sheep" this almost goat like >animal had what I can only describe as a "dog hair" coat, the tail weighed >3 kilograms and the hair apparently could be used in the same way that >mohair is used.... does anyone else have any info/experience on this breed >of sheep ?... I believe a South African breed ? > > >> Maybe I should consider pigs. > >Don't get me started on pigs Larry :-)) ... wonderful, useful pc animal. > >>Or rabbits > >Although selling rabbits in South Australia is illegal ... I think they >could be one of the most productive animals in a pc system, the biggest >hurdle if anyone has kids is the "cute cuddly bunny" syndrome... getting the >kids to eat rabbit is (almost) impossible :-) > > >>How many subscribers are there on this list? > >I'm here >> How many want to keep it going? > >Me :-) > >Pete > > > >-- >To leave: Email "LEAVE PERMA" (no subject) to listserver@eepo.com.au. > > ----------------------- Francis D'Emden University of Western Australia fdemden@agric.uwa.edu.au -- To leave: Email "LEAVE PERMA" (no subject) to listserver@eepo.com.au. From petew@twpo.com.au Sat Nov 13 16:37:06 1999 Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 18:01:59 +1030 From: Peter Wibberley Reply-To: PERMA@eepo.com.au To: Permaculture WA Subject: Re: new Permacult web site ----- Original Message ----- From: Frank D'Emden To: Permaculture WA Sent: Friday, November 12, 1999 2:13 PM Subject: Re: new Permacult web site > Howdy folks, > > Yes, keep it rolling! Those sheep may be called Awassis, or South African > Mutton Merinos in W.A.. Hi Frank I had a personal Email from Wes (Wesley Trotman)... he reminded me, they are called Damara sheep. >I know some people (James and Chris Ryan at West > Point Pastoral Co., Bedford Harbour, West Australia) who are mating the > merinos to rams of this breed. They grow very fast, have a herding nature, > and a very strong constitution. Speaking to the stock manager at West Point > this week and apparently some of the merino mums are dying from Barber's > Poll worm, but the first cross lambs are having no troubles. Their genetic > traits are very strong so the merino ewes can be used for mating to source > male progeny. I have a sneaking suspicion that they may also be suitable > for milking, They were certainly tall enough to make home milking easy. >given that they have a rapid lamb growth rate. They have > something like an 8 month gestation period, and the rams don't need to be > pulled out of the "herd". The first crosses I saw were about 8 months old and they were much bigger than any other sheep that I had seen. see ya Pete -- To leave: Email "LEAVE PERMA" (no subject) to listserver@eepo.com.au. From richo@comswest.net.au Sat Nov 13 16:37:42 1999 Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 19:44:49 +0800 From: M&J Richardson Reply-To: PERMA@eepo.com.au To: Permaculture WA Subject: Re: new Permacult web site If you are in W.Australia, any Agriculture Western Australia office should be able to give you some info on awassi's as they are/were? running projects on them. Pretty successful breed, and ideal for permaculture if you are not after a wool breed. Now we're talking permaculture, or agric. stuff this list is great - keep up the info about Bill M. and his books etc. We just used to get lots of guff about politics, and policy making, and that's not what most people want to know about when they're setting up their first mandela garden. -- To leave: Email "LEAVE PERMA" (no subject) to listserver@eepo.com.au.