From waldenfarm@sprintmail.com Mon Oct 11 22:30:53 1999 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 12:21:40 -0400 From: Alex McGregor To: "sanet-mg@shasta.ces.ncsu.edu" Subject: Re: Organic and nutrition There's been a lot of questions and answers on this thread. Maybe my limited knowledge of the subject would help some. At the Southern SAWG Conference in Memphis about 2 years ago, a farm consultant did a demonstration of Brix testing- measuring the amount of sugar in fruit with a refractometer; there is a direct correlation between sugar content and mineral content. So, the higher the sugar, the higher the mineral content. He had an organically grown yellow squash he bought that morning from a health food store and a chemically grown one from a supermarket. The chemically grown squash had a much higher sugar content and thus, mineral content. The crowd was perplexed. People around me were mumbling that it couldn't be right because, "Everybody knows organic has a higher nutritional content." What this showed was that the chemical farmer had a better mineral balance in her/his soil than the organic farmer- by luck or effort, we don't know. (The factor not measured here was the amount of toxic chemicals and metals in the squash.) There are 2 basics facts about minerals in the soil and plant uptake that we just can't ignore: 1.) If the soil doesn't contain the mineral, plants can't take it up. (Pretty obvious.) 2.) If there is too much of one mineral, it will suppress the uptake of other minerals by plants. (For example, excessive calcium in a soil will block the uptake of iron, even if there is sufficient iron in the soil.) That's the chemistry part of soil. But there is another factor we know less about- the biology of the soil. What we do know is that where you have low levels of minerals and a high soil biodiversity (through good soil management practices and sufficient organic matter), the plants have higher mineral content. This happens through having a large population of plant nutrient cyclers and plant symbionts present in the soil, making the scarce minerals more available or "feeding" them directly to the plants. This soil biology can also "buffer" the mineral imbalances and the uptake of heavy metals. Plants will also take up non-nutritive ions (i.e., heavy metals and other ions) and can substitute these for plant nutrient minerals to survive. So, those organic farmers who pay attention to good management practices for their soil and maintain an adequate food source for their soil biology (organic matter) produce higher nutritional quality food than organic farmers who don't. And non-organic farmers who practice good soil management, balance the minerals in their soil and add organic matter do better than either on mineral content. (Given the same soils and the condition that the chemical farmer is not destroying the soil biology.) And, an organic farmer following the same practices of soil management and mineral balancing can do as well or better than the non-organic farmer for nutrient content without the chemical residues. There are areas of our country where recent geologic events (glaciation in the Midwest, volcanic in Hawaii, fault zones on the West coast and Middle Tennessee) have remineralized the soils naturally and where plants have access to minerals. Then there are zones where temperatures and high rainfall have depleted the soil minerals (Southeast US, with the exception of fault zones). So, the soil type and history has a lot to do with plant nutrition. But, we can boost the organic matter and add minerals in a balanced way to convert minerally "poor" soils to produce minerally "rich" crops. How to balance minerals is another story. I think I've been going on long enough. By the way, I have been impressed with how many sanetters have an appreciation for, and knowledge about, this subject. I share Bart's experience about, "...the overwhelming majority of organic farmers don't 'get' this any better than their conventional colleagues..." I have yet to meet another organic farmer in the Southeast who uses some form of mineral management beyond NPK- and this is a geographic area where it is so critical for plant and human nutrition! Alex To Unsubscribe: Email majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu with the command "unsubscribe sanet-mg". If you receive the digest format, use the command "unsubscribe sanet-mg-digest". To Subscribe to Digest: Email majordomo@ces.ncsu.edu with the command "subscribe sanet-mg-digest". All messages to sanet-mg are archived at: http://www.sare.org/san/htdocs/hypermail