Re: "Grammatical" Categories correction

From: clayton stirling bartholomew (c.s.bartholomew@worldnet.att.net)
Date: Mon Sep 20 1999 - 14:24:38 EDT


Calling Agent and Recipient syntax functions is going to bother some
people including me. I think these are semantic functions not syntax
functions.

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Clayton Stirling Bartholomew
Three Tree Point
P.O. Box 255 Seahurst WA 98062

---------- >From: "clayton stirling bartholomew" <c.s.bartholomew@worldnet.att.net> >To: "b-greek" <b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu> >Subject: Re: "Grammatical" Categories >Date: Mon, Sep 20, 1999, 11:20 AM >

> > ---------- >>From: George Goolde <goolde@mtnempire.net> >>To: Biblical Greek <b-greek@franklin.oit.unc.edu> >>Subject: "Grammatical" Categories >>Date: Mon, Sep 20, 1999, 10:01 AM >> > >> For example, we begin with a word that is clearly in the Genitive (or >> Genitive/Ablative) case. We immediately eliminate usages which are >> substantive (nominative) or objective (accusative) and begin a conscious or >> unconscious process of elimination to determine what meaning we find in the >> text. > > George, > > Can we really "eliminate" syntax functions without reference to the > context? If I am not mistaken the genitive case can function as an Agent > with a participle (genitive absolute). The genitive can also function as > the Recipient of the action specified in a finite verb. So based on the > case form alone I don't think we can "eliminate" these functional > categories. What can be "eliminated" based on the case form alone is > really a fairly tricky and somewhat controversial question. > > Clay > > -- > Clayton Stirling Bartholomew > Three Tree Point > P.O. Box 255 Seahurst WA 98062 > > > PS > > I know that this is not the main point of your post. I am not responding > to the main point but just looking at a related question raised by your > statement as quoted. It is possible that we are actually agreeing with > one another but I wanted to respond just to your statement as quoted.

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