Re: Syntax Grammars

From: Paul Zellmer (zellmer@digitelone.com)
Date: Wed Dec 08 1999 - 09:14:46 EST


Steven Craig Miller wrote, in part:

> To: Carlton Winbery,
>
> << Brooks and Winbery, as well as Dana & Mantey, are beginner syntax
books. >>
>
> One person wants to insist that they teach "advanced Greek syntax" and
now
> you want to insist that they are "beginner syntax books." IMO a more
> descriptive label would be "intermediate." Perhaps it is not a
perfect
> term, but nonetheless it is MORE descriptive. Even if you meant for
your
> intermediate grammar to be used during the first year, to call it a
> "beginner syntax" is bound to only create confusion.
>

Steven,

It would appear as if you are not distinguishing the term that Dr
Winbery is using. In general, the "first year" course (as we see it
used in the States) is "beginning *grammar*," and the focus is on
identification of individual words. The "second year" course, which is
many times referred to as "intermediate Greek," is normally the first
real course in *syntax*, how the words relate to the other words in the
context. While Brooks and Winbery is an appropriate book for the second
year course of studies, it is, in fact, a "beginning syntax" which
should be followed by an advanced syntax study/studies.

Of course, I would like to see a first-year course which covered the
more commonly found grammatical and syntactical forms, and have the
second-year course delve into the lesser common forms, but I guess that
such a structure would be too radical to be accepted. As Bryan Rocine
(of this list and the Hebrew list) has found with his beginning Hebrew
grammar, publishers just don't want to print books that are changing the
established norm too much!

Paul

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