From: Polycarp66@aol.com
Date: Tue Feb 22 2000 - 18:23:40 EST
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In a message dated 2/22/2000 4:38:49 PM Central Daylight Time,
parousia_occ@yahoo.com writes:
<< "But whenever should come the 'perfect,' the 'from part' is destroyed."
I have heard several explanations for this (from the completion of the
canon to the Second Coming), but I think there may be something more in the
word TELEIOS than we acknowledge here.
>>
The powers that be in this group ordain that we eschew the discussion of
theology and limit our discussion to the Greek -- generally, and here in
particular, I concur. Having said that there is something which can be said
concerning the use of TELEI* in this letter.
2.6 SOFIAN DE LALOUMEN EN TOIS TELEIOS
We speak wisdom among the mature
14.1 ADELFOI, MH PAIDIA GINESQE TAIS FRESIN ALLA THi KAKIAi NHPIAZETE, TAIS
DE FRESIN TELEIOI GINESQE.
Brothers, don't be children in understanding. Instead be infants in
evil but be mature in understanding.
In these the idea is that of maturity. This is slightly different in the
passage under consideration -- but not much. I think he builds on this
concept. He contrasts the "complete" with
PROFHTEIAI -- KATARGHQHSONTAI
GLWSSAI -- PAUSONTAI
GNWSIS -- KATARGHQHSETAI
My guess would be that this was in opposition to some Gnostic tendencies
being exhibited. When was this to occur? I would say that it would be at
the expected parousia.
1.7 WSTE hUMAS MH hUSTEREISQAI EN MHDENI CARISMATI APEKDECOMENOUS THN
APOKALUYIN TOU KURIOU hHMWN IHSOU CRISTOU
. . . so that you might not be lacking in any gift as we await the revelation
of out Lord Jesus Christ.
Much of the early church seemed to expect to still be alive when the parousia
would occur.
gfsomsel
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