20031205.qrp v03_n125.qrl.20031205 Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 19:03:04 EST From: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: QRP-L digest 3125 QRP-L Digest 3125 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) [162373] Re: AZ ScQRPions Paddle S/N List by "Lawrence Makoski" 2) [162374] RE: "ET phone home" ? by "Tom" 3) [162375] Re: AZ ScQRPions Paddle S/N List by "Joe Martin" 4) [162376] Re: Why have mono phone plugs and cables? by Kenneth Cooperstein 5) [162377] Re: [Elmer160] C compilers by Lee Mairs 6) [162378] Re: [Elmer160] C compilers by Chuck Adams 7) [162379] vlf by "carl seyersdahl" 8) [162380] Re: Why have mono phone plugs and cables? by "Mike Yetsko" 9) [162381] Fwd: 15th ORIGINAL QRP CONTEST by dl6aaf@t-online.de 10) [162382] QRP at the Tampa Bay hamfest by "Paul Womble" 11) [162383] PAC-12 Portable Antenna Kits by James Bennett 12) [162384] Re: [Elmer160] C compilers by w9ya 13) [162385] QRP DX by Lloyd Lachow 14) [162386] Re: OT: Electronics learning lab? by Donald E Sanders 15) [162387] OT: FCC prohibits device in the US by "Mike Yetsko" 16) [162388] 20 more Days Until Christmas by "Ron Polityka" 17) [162389] HW-9 in therapy by James R Giammanco 18) [162390] Argonaut V by George Reeves 19) [162391] Re: PAC-12 Portable Antenna Kits by John Sielke 20) [162392] Lithium Ion batteries by Karl Larsen 21) [162393] Elmer 160: A problem by "John J. McDonough" 22) [162394] Manhattan [RE]construction to the rescue! by "Rod N0RC" 23) [162395] RE: PAC-12 Portable Antenna Kits by "Jim Sheldon" 24) [162396] Re: "ET phone home" ? by Bruce Muscolino 25) [162397] 160 Test this weekend by "Bill Kelsey - N8ET - Kanga US" 26) [162398] WTB by "john gabbard" 27) [162399] What can be done with QRP and a simple wire antenna? by "John Shannon" 28) [162400] OT:Oscope? by "John" 29) [162401] Re: What can be done with QRP and a simple wire antenna? by ARDUJENSKI@aol.com 30) [162402] FOX: KV2X Fox Log V1.0002 by tjennin2@rochester.rr.com 31) [162403] RE: Oscope? by Mark Danner 32) [162404] Re: OT:Oscope? by "Michael Melland, W9WIS" 33) [162405] AMQRP Homebrewer Mag. # 1 by "Meier, Peter H." 34) [162406] OT Special Event this evening by "Steve Blary" 35) [162407] RE: Manhattan [RE]construction to the rescue! by "AI2Q" 36) [162408] Paddle #10 arrives by Karl Larsen 37) [162409] Re: OT:Oscope? by "John" 38) [162410] RE: OT Special Event this evening by "Michael Bower N4NMR" 39) [162411] #33 by "richqrp" 40) [162412] DSW-20 II by "ross bell" 41) [162413] Re: What can be done with QRP and a simple wire antenna? by Bruce Muscolino ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:50:44 -0500 From: "Lawrence Makoski" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162373] Re: AZ ScQRPions Paddle S/N List Message-ID: <001101c3bac1$6fd9e030$3ad14b0c@larrysahyqy001> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And I got #65! How did they know to put two of the NJ FP's next to each other? :) 73 de Larry W2LJ - Vivat Morse! W2LJ@arrl.net http://www.qsl.net/w2lj ARRL Lifemember QRP ARCI #4488 NJQRP #47 FISTS #1469 QRP-L #778 FP #612 QRPp-I #759 ARS #1528 --- K1 #1647 --- AmQRP, CQC #746 ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Sielke" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 1:52 PM Subject: Re: AZ ScQRPions Paddle S/N List > Whooppee! I made it! Serial Number 66! > > John W2AGN > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:56:04 -0500 From: "Tom" To: "Michael Melland, W9WIS" , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162374] RE: "ET phone home" ? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually, nuclear powered submarines can't just lay on the bottom due to the location of various hull penetrations. The major ones being main and auxiliary sea water suction and discharge. We also had to be in sync with at least three communication stations at all times. Others have listed some of them such as Cutler, Harold E Holt (??), Jim Creek, and don't hold me to the spelling but Lua Lua Lei. However diesel boats can certainly sit on the bottom, since they are not running their engines but rather running off the main batteries. The running joke in the submarine community was that those of us who were on ssbn duty did "five knots to nowhere" and the fast boat guys always told the nubs (new guys, not yet qualified in submarines) you don't want to go to a boomer, all they do is "Hide with Pride" Tom kf4yyd -----Original Message----- From: owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU]On Behalf Of Michael Melland, W9WIS Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 2:38 PM To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: Re: "ET phone home" ? ELF is used to communicate only with deep runners so it's a bit of a different purpose then what you are describing. I know that communications with subs as deep as 400+ feet is common... I've also been told that most of the messages that are sent via ELF are launch codes etc. The ICBM boats can lay on the bottom and receive information without having to move at all. Must be like a high tech version of the EAM's often heard on the USAF Global HF Frequencies..... "Sky King Sky King do not answer.... message follows..." Mike, W9WIS ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 18:17:13 -0600 From: "Joe Martin" To: "QRP" Subject: [162375] Re: AZ ScQRPions Paddle S/N List Message-ID: <019401c3bac5$227eba00$de4cd6d0@JoesHome1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit #62 here, everybody was really paying attention when the announcement was made that early Wednesday morning, WoW! I responded only 30 min after the mail was posted glad I was paying attention. This is great when we get some built we can see who makes more QSO's with the other brasskeys we could use OBK#62 qsl, guy with the most after a set period of time even have sprints for the OBKs 73 de KM5CW, Joe ARCI #11368 FP#-697 FISTS#4217 GRID EM13kf FtWorth,Tx 32:49:31N 97:06:13W (http://www.km5cw.org) ---------| Virus Scanned by Symantec |--------- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barry Minsky" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 5:42 PM Subject: Re: AZ ScQRPions Paddle S/N List > On 12/4/03 9:08 AM, "Jerry Haigwood" wrote: > > > Folks, > > The latest S/N list has been posted to the web. To check for your > > name, go to: > > and then click on "serial > > numbers list." On Saturday we will start cutting brass for batch 2 and > > hope to be shipping it around December 20. > > > > Jerry W5JH > > > > > > > I was surprised that I was not on the list. Maybe I will be in the next > batch. > > Barry, W2BJ > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 19:26:27 -0500 From: Kenneth Cooperstein To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [162376] Re: Why have mono phone plugs and cables? Message-ID: <3FCFD0B3.9000403@att.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Thanks, Dave. I overlooked the shielding. Ken KC2JDY ----- Ken, The ring conductor on a stereo plug will usually contact the ground conductor of a mono jack. Depending on your application, that might not be a problem. I have discovered that it can allow you to use a stereo headphone with a mono output device - by leaving the headphone ground open, it essentially places the two speakers in series. If you're only connecting mono devices to other mono devices with your patch cords it might work, but the ring will be used as the ground. If they're supposed to be shielded cords, the shields won't connect to anything. Dave ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 19:05:55 -0500 From: Lee Mairs To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162377] Re: [Elmer160] C compilers Message-ID: <015401c3bac3$95e1fb30$3b6d020a@J4> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Since this thread continues... That's nothing! I remember in the old days when I had to throw front panel switches to set the octal code for the machine language instruction and then toggle the Deposit instruction with another front panel switch. My original PC, an 8008, had 256 bytes of memory. When my first OS took almost all of them, I had to secrete several hundred dollars from SWMBO so that I could buy a full K of 1101s... And on and on and on... 73 de Lee KM4YY/8 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dale Botkin" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 4:12 PM Subject: RE: [Elmer160] C compilers > On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Ray Goff wrote: > > > You can always find examples of situation where C (or any other high > > level language) cannot be used, but for the most part writing in a > > high level language is less error prone, less frustrating and much > > faster than assembly language. > > Exactly my point, really. On most of this I think we're in violent > agreement. 8-) That's why I use C, with the occasional function done > with inline assembly. > > > Incidentally, my C routine to transpose all the bits in a byte takes > > 21 machine code instructions when compiled for a PIC16F876 and took me > > a couple of minutes to write. > > 11 instructions, thus allowing me to add a prosign for pausing message > playback to, for example, insert RST or a sequence number. You work > really, really hard when you absolutely have to make it fit into 1K. 8-) > > 73, > Dale > -- > It's a thankless job, but I've got a lot of Karma to burn off. > PicoKeyer Analog with pot speed control now available! Or add > memory and more to your Rock-Mite -- http://www.hamgadgets.com > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 00:39:03 +0000 From: Chuck Adams To: "John J. McDonough" , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162378] Re: [Elmer160] C compilers Message-ID: <5.2.1.1.0.20031205003656.01d07118@mail.commspeed.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 04:24 PM 12/4/2003 -0500, John J. McDonough wrote: >...snip... >When they decide to solve systems of differential equations, >they'll figure out that's a whole lot easier in C. But at least they will >have the foundation. > >72/73 de WB8RCR http://www.qsl.net/wb8rcr And when they get to simultaneous non-linear integral-differential equations with coupled coefficients and boundary values they will change jobs..... :-) Maybe even retire early. Chuck Adams K7QO k7qo@commspeed.net http://www.qsl.net/k7qo CP-60 Moving to Arizona? Please bring your own water. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:48:14 -0500 From: "carl seyersdahl" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162379] vlf Message-ID: <017001c3bac9$ac607020$7a3cca44@tampabay.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I worked in the panama canal zone from late '57 to '74. and the navy had a vlf transmitter station there on the pacific side, it ran (as my memory goes) 2 megawatts on 60 kc (oops, khz) Our shop was only about a quarter mile from the stn. and when that thing fired up our shop operations came to halt, because all our vtvm's and such would go crazy from the rf energy of that rig. I toured the stn a few times as a technician, and it was fantastic to say the least. I don't know what it's purpose was as it was not on the air very much, and I don't know what may have happened to it after the canal was turned over to panama. Just another memory.!!!! carl / kz5ca ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:44:23 -0500 From: "Mike Yetsko" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162380] Re: Why have mono phone plugs and cables? Message-ID: <004401c3bac9$0558bbc0$0200a8c0@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Thanks, Dave. > > I overlooked the shielding. > > Ken KC2JDY > I wouldn't think that would be a problem. How many things do you know of that DON'T use the shell for the shield? And if the 'ring' is also connected to the shield, so what? You just have a tracer wire down the inside as well. There are a few applications that don't use the 'shell' of the plug connector for 'shield' or ground. Some drag racing transbrake connections and so on, but those are just static state hookups, not audio or higher frequency hookups. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 02:45:33 +0100 (CET) From: dl6aaf@t-online.de To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162381] Fwd: 15th ORIGINAL QRP CONTEST Message-ID: <200312050145.hB51jZO01129@joringel.privnet.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit QRP-Contest-Community (qrpcc) 03-Dec-2003 c/o Dr.Hartmut Weber, DJ7ST Schlesierweg 13 D-38228 SALZGITTER Phone: +495341-50113 The QRP-Contest-Community (qrpcc) cordially is inviting you to the 15th O R I G I N A L - Q R P - C O N T E S T ------------------------------------------------- The contest idea is to promote creative or unconventional QRP-hamming like homebrewing or just doing it without your 'luxurious' QRO equipment. This event more than other contests has a meeting character. The result lists show that many operators are taking part only on one band for just an hour or two and without the intention of high scoring or winning. But if you want to prove that QRP operators may be keen operators you are invited to do so as well. - - - - - - - - Participants: Operators of original QRP rig, commercial or homebrew, including industrial QRP rig exceeding 5w output like Elecraft K2, SG 2020, FT-7 and QRP-versions of QRO-transceivers like TS-130 V, FT-707S etc. Stations with QRO-equipment (>20W out) temporarily reduced to QRP will be listed as 'non Original' checklog. Date: 27/28th-Dec-2003 ---------------- Time: Saturday 1500 UTC till Sunday 1500 UTC, rest period of 9 hours minimum in one or two parts. (more pauses as you like) Frequencies: CW segments of the 80-, 40-, and 20m band. Call: CQ OQRP (= Original QRP) Categories: V L P (1W out or 2W in) Q R P (5W out or 10W in) M P (20W out or 40W in) ( No QRO-category) NEW: There now are 'Handmade' and 'Open' subcategories i.e. VLP/Handmade and VLP/Open, QRP/Handmade and QRP/Open etc.. Contestants who want to be listed in a 'Handmade' subcategory MUST declare : "All my TX operated in this contest were homemade by myself. I was coding & decoding the CW signals by head & hand without computer assistance (= no keyboard) and did not use DX-cluster or other third party support." Any log without a declaration like this will be listed in the "Open" subcategory. Operation: Single-op CW. Various TX/TRX may be operated, but only one at the same time. Exchange: RST, serial-no./ category e.g. 559001/VLP. QSO-Points: The log checker will count 4 points for a qso with another contest station whose log has come in. All other QSO count 1 point. Exchange of RST is sufficient with stations not in contest. Multiplier: The log checker will count 2 multiplier points for each DXCC-country from a qso with a station whose log has come in. Otherwise each DXCC-country counts 1 multiplier point. Final score: Sum of QSO-points multiplied by the sum of multiplier-points. (Calculated by the log checker. Don't try an own calculation: you cannot foresee who will send his log and who will not). So every log is welcome and important, even just 3 QSO on a picture postcard ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Logs: List QSO sorted bandwise, please. (Otherwise you might find your log listed as checklog!) Add the DXCC prefix if you claim a multiplier for a QSO. Summary sheet: has to show name, address, callsign and minimum rest periods. Indicate the types of all TX/TRX used with out- or input on each band according to manufacturer or measured under contest conditions. Homebrew rigs description should name pa-transistor/-tube and possibly a reference (e.g. SPRAT No.) (Don't forget the "Handmade"-declaration mentioned above). Deadline: 31-Jan to: Dr.Hartmut Weber, DJ7ST, Schlesierweg 13, D-38228 SALZGITTER, Germany. Via Packet to DJ7ST@DB0ABZ e-mail logs to . See for infos and for log-details. - - - - - - - - - If you don't know us yet: The QRP-Contest-Community (qrpcc) is a supra-national network of qrp enthusiasts (at present 150 promoters from 12 nations) pursuing the organization and promotion of QRP Contests since 1992. The qrpcc may be viewed as a support group taking care of the QRP'ers interests in a self-help manner. Because of its international design the qrpcc does not seek any affiliation with national ham radio organizations but is open to any cooperation. Since 1996 the qrpcc carries out the ORIGINAL-QRP-CONTEST, designed for genuine QRP gear. The HOMEBREW & OLDTIME-EQUIPMENT-Party (HOT-PARTY) since 1997 is organized by the qrpcc, too. The youngest qrpcc "child" is the QRP-MINIMAL-ART-SESSION born at Ascension Day 2000. The promoters of qrpcc are private persons supporting the idea by personal participation in organizing, log-checking, translating, printing address labels etc. or by contributing to postage costs (for 1h of work for qrpcc matters or for 5 Euro or 5$ you will be on the sponsors' list for one year). OQRPC participants (at least those who sent paper logs) will receive info-letters by post along with comments, statistics, summary&log sheet etc.. So hpe cu in the 15th ORIGINAL-QRP-CONTEST ! Best 73/2 de Hal, DJ7ST ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 21:16:13 -0500 From: "Paul Womble" To: "'Flying Pigs'" , "'Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion'" Cc: "'LARC'" , Subject: [162382] QRP at the Tampa Bay hamfest Message-ID: <002d01c3bad5$c23c54c0$6401a8c0@house> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There will be a QRP get together at the Tampa Bay hamfest this weekend. We will meet at the end of the Antenna Building forum on Saturday afternoon around 5pm and decide on what/where to do for dinner or Sunday breakfast. Anyone intersted is welcome! Hamfest info is at: www.fgcarc.org Local repeaters are 443.225 and 146.820 both pl 100.0. Hope to see you there! Paul K4FB www.qsl.net/k4fb ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 04 Dec 2003 18:35:13 -0800 From: James Bennett To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162383] PAC-12 Portable Antenna Kits Message-ID: <3FCFEEE1.4A9C2881@sprintmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All, We are now caught up with orders and have PAC-12 antenna kits in stock. We also have the new compact coil kits for 30-10 meters. The compact coil kits are priced at $10 each. We are running a holiday special on the PAC-12. Now through the end of 2003, any PAC-12 kit ordered will include a free compact coil kit at the regular price of $65. This is in addition to the 60-10M full size coil already included with the kit. We also have a yahoo group for PAC-12 antenna owners. Both kit and homebuilt antenna owners are welcome. Please see our website for details. http://www.pacificantenna.com/ Thanks and Happy Holidays James Bennett KA5DVS Pacific Antenna ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:13:21 -0500 From: w9ya To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162384] Re: [Elmer160] C compilers Message-ID: <200312042213.21150.w9ya@arrl.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Thursday 04 December 2003 10:34 am, Lee Mairs wrote: > Boy, do I disagree with Ray on this one. I developed and managed a group > of microprocessor software developers since the early days of the 8080. > The folks that had an early grounding in assembly language always seemed to > write tighter high level code with fewer bugs. Plus, they knew the benefit > of proper and complete in-line comments/documentation. Hey Lee and the gang; I agree with you and not with Ray. Sorry Ray, but even on the surface, it begs the question: If a programmer doesn't know assembly well, how can they understand how to code in C and have tight assembly code results ? (I already am sure I know the answer to this. In fact, I am an old assembly lang. guy that also writes script from time to time these days.) By way of example-> I was looking over some of the pic coding from several QST authors in the past ten years worth of articles in hopes of learning the Microcode pic assembler. Anyways, I ended up discovering some odd and poorly executed code. Yes the code worked but it was neither optimum or smoothly logical. One author is a teacher of pic code at the university level. He openly shared that this is quite normal output for C code, and that he likes to teach that you must look at the assembler code to make sure the c code is being properly optimized. Which of course again begs the above question. I think it is asking too much of some artificial constructs like what we call a C lang. compiler to be able to properly make assembly code without human intervention for optimization. And that human intervention requires learning, which in this case is assembler. And I also disagree that one can just step up speed or memory size to compensate as a steadfast rule. Vy 72; Bob w9ya > > It is sort of like the benefits of an engineering education (aka life in a > calculus monastery). You might not learn much that is directly > transferable over the rest of your life, but it sure taught you how to > think and approach problems. > 73 de Lee > KM4YY/8 > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ray Goff" > To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" > Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 9:09 AM > Subject: RE: [Elmer160] C compilers > > > > At any rate, I highly recommend learning and getting reasonably good > > with > > > > assembly before jumping to C or BASIC compilers. You really need to > > > understand the little critters' internal workings and instruction set > > > if you're going to do non-trivial things with them, and do them > > > reasonably well. > > > > I could not disagree more about the use of C compilers. > > > > As somebody who has professionally built embedded systems for the past 20 > > years, > > > I can assure you that there is absolutely no need to know any of the > > assembly > > > language instructions for the PIC or any other microprocessor in order to > > make > > > best use of it. You do, however, have to understand the architecture of > > the > > > beast and the routines provided by the C compiler supplier to attack the > > various > > > goodies the chip contains, but that is about it. > > > > I personally use the CCS compiler for both professional and ham radio > > related > > > PIC projects and I have yet to find a reason to code anything in assembly > > language. If the C code seems slow, choose a faster processor or look at > > optimising your code to make it more efficient. That also goes for the > > size of > > > the code, if you cannot get it into the chip, look at a chip with more > > memory or > > > again look at your code design and optimise it. > > > > With the CCS compiler you get a combined listing of the C source and the > > assembler output. If you are having problems with either speed or size, > > try > > > doing the operation a number of different ways in C and look at the > > combined > > > listing to see how much code is created for each statement. Don't worry > > about > > > the code itself, you are only interested in the number of bytes created > > by > > the > > > compiler. Often by slightly re-arranging the code you can significantly > > increase > > > or decrease the number of bytes of assembly code created. > > > > C code is many times more readable than assembly language and therefore > > much > > > easier to both write and debug. Good tight coding is entirely possible > > with C, > > > design in it and let the compiler take care of generating the assembly > > language > > > code! Should you ever decide to port the code to another family of > > microprocessors, you simply need to find a compiler for the chip rather > > than > > > having to completely recode the software in a different assembly > > language. > > > > Just my tuppence worth. > > > > Ray, G4FON > > > > Incidentally, if you are looking for shareware PIC tools, look at > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 19:31:22 -0800 (PST) From: Lloyd Lachow To: "Li'l Piggies" , a low-energy group Subject: [162385] QRP DX Message-ID: <20031205033122.52571.qmail@web41014.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I worked T32WW in East Kiribati, tonight at 0313z, at 14.026...he was 599. LL ===== 73, 72 es oo, Lloyd, K3ESE - Reisterstown, Maryland KX1#11 - multiPIG+#14 - K1#379 - 20/40M RockMites EDZ - Longwahr - Begali Magnetic Classic Paddles ARRL - ARS - QRParci - QCWA - FISTS #8774 FPQRP #476 - QRP-L - BORG #2 Fun = Skill / Power ! 8^D __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 22:46:43 -0500 From: Donald E Sanders To: ARDUJENSKI@aol.com Cc: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [162386] Re: OT: Electronics learning lab? Message-ID: <20031204.232307.-618469.0.w4bws@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The new Rad Shack has an experimenters kit for about $60 with the protoboard , a meter, ic's, etc. that would probably fit your needs. Don W4BWS On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 16:40:14 EST ARDUJENSKI@aol.com writes: > This may not be highly technical enough for this group but I would > like to > locate a good electronics lab kit where you can build various > circuits and > experiment with variables in the circuit. I have located one type: > > www.montek.com/catalog/cat9_1.htm > > I also saw the ones advertised in the back of QST such as the > snap-in ones. > > > Was looking for some suggestions on some others available. I would > even > consider ones on CD and you build virtual circuits. Sure I could > always buy a dozen > various kits but for me one of these lab type centers would prove > more > beneficial (AND COST EFFECTIVE). > > Thanks for the bandwidth and taking time to offer some suggestions. > > Alan KB7MBI > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:10:28 -0500 From: "Mike Yetsko" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162387] OT: FCC prohibits device in the US Message-ID: <00dc01c3bb18$409f5960$0200a8c0@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Anyone know anything about this?? http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/12/04/heart.device.ap/index.html It's being banned by the FCC due to a complaint. The concept sounds good, except that the complaint alleges that the device just transmits when it wants to, without checking that frequencies are clear. The complaint from another medical company says the device is leading to congested frequecies and interference. I wonder what frequecy the device uses to begin with. It sounded like it was a cell phone! And they built a device that doesn't arbitrate correctly? Actually, the FCC didn't ban it, they just prohibit new devices. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 05:23:06 -0500 From: "Ron Polityka" To: ".QRP-L" Subject: [162388] 20 more Days Until Christmas Message-ID: <001a01c3bb19$c6353c60$0200a8c0@WB3AAL> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, Well the East Coast is getting ready for their first Winter Storm and EPA is expecting a possible total of 6". Just is time to go out and play radio in the snow. :-) I have around 15 calendars still waiting for a home for Christmas. If you would like to purchase a 2004 QRP Contest Calendar, please check out www.n3epa.org . Check out the comments about this years calendar. 72 Ron de N3EPA EPA QRP Club El Presidente' n3epa@verizon.net www.n3epa.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 05:06:02 PST From: James R Giammanco To: qrp-l@Lehigh.edu Subject: [162389] HW-9 in therapy Message-ID: <20031205.075637.4639.1.n5ib@juno.com> A local asked me to see if I could resurrect his HW-9. He has the whole package - rig, ATU, SWR meter, PS. Good success so far. The only thing found failed was a 1N4149 (yep 49, not 48) diode in the T/R switching circuit. It hears and talks now, at least on 40 m. Haven't checked all bands yet. But the Rx sure seems to have a lot of birdies. How about it HW-9 guardians out there - is that the normal state of affairs? By the way, the mechanical disassembly needed just to change a diode sure makes me appreciate Wayne, Eric, Elecraft, Dave, SWL, OHR, Emtech, et al of the modern QRP era. :^)) 72 Jim N5IB ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 08:38:24 -0500 From: George Reeves To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [162390] Argonaut V Message-ID: <3FD08A50.3030902@emory.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am considering the purchase of the TenTec Argonaut V. I would like to correspond off-list with hams who are using this transceiver as one of their main rigs. I'm seeking impressions, good and bad, of the transceiver, particularly if you are running QRP or PSK31, or if you are using software, such as Ham Radio Deluxe, to operate. If you are using other software than HRD, I'd be interested in hearing your impressions of this software also. Email me off list at greeves@emory.edu. Thanks for your time. George, WA4TNU ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 08:48:36 -0500 From: John Sielke To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162391] Re: PAC-12 Portable Antenna Kits Message-ID: <3FD08CB4.9050208@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As one who scoffs and denigrates small antennas in general, let me say that for some reason the PAC-12 far exceeded my expectations. I have set it up and worked station after station with good reports, just using the radials supplied. I am making a kit with some slightly longer ones, to see how that helps. I did make a multiband loading coil out of some B&W coil stock, so I can just move a clip lead to switch bands. A great little antenna at an unbeatable price! (Usual stuff about not having interest in company, just happy customer, blah, blah) John W2AGN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 06:55:46 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162392] Lithium Ion batteries Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII The tiny Yaseu VX2R handitalky uses a 1000 ma-hr 3.7 volt Lithium battery. The Wallwort that you plug into the radio says on it that it puts out 6 volts dc. So the Lithium Ion charger must be inside the radio! And it is. Last year from Mouser I bought all the parts to build a National Semiconductor all battery charger. I had to get some special devices to mount the multiconductor surface mount chips in a manhatten contruction. But summer hit and other things got in the way. Everything in this charger can be surface mount. It is tiny stuff and that is how they got it into the tiny radio. The thing that's really nice is that I do not need to remember to plug in the charger last night. It only takes an hour to charge the battery! The radio get warmer from use than it does charging. I will get busy and build this charger so I can charge large Lithium batteries. -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:30:26 -0500 From: "John J. McDonough" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162393] Elmer 160: A problem Message-ID: <016c01c3bb3c$54756f00$090044c0@BrianBoru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Gang Last night or this morning I got an email that was going to take more than the typical "we expect to have the order information posted this weekend" response. After having breakfast, I came back down here to respond to it. Well, I couldn't find the message. I eventually went through a list of all emails since yesterday and looked one at a time through the subjects. Still no joy. That list, from yesterday until just before 9AM today contained 576 emails! If you send me an email and want to have any hope of me seeing it, it MUST have "Elmer 160" in the subject. I use filters to group my Elmer 160 emails so I don't miss them, but that means that if you spell Elmer wrong, arrange it differently, whatever, there is a good chance I won't see it. I would appreciate it if the original sender would re-send that email, with "Elmer 160" in the subject. Thanks 72/73 de WB8RCR http://www.qsl.net/wb8rcr didileydadidah QRP-L #1446 Code Warriors #35 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 07:31:27 -0700 From: "Rod N0RC" To: "qrp-l" Subject: [162394] Manhattan [RE]construction to the rescue! Message-ID: <01ee01c3bb3c$7840f260$6501a8c0@greyrock> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, Here is a link to a photo essay on how I used Manhattan construction techniques, to repair a rig: http://users.frii.com/rwc/ampfix/ Hope it's useful to you. 73, Rod N0RC **Happy Holidays** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 08:51:43 -0600 From: "Jim Sheldon" To: "QRP-L Mailing List" Subject: [162395] RE: PAC-12 Portable Antenna Kits Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi John, You just echo'd my sentiments on the antenna. N0UB (Dave Lancey) lives about a mile from me here in Park City, KS, and when he first told me he was going to build one, I told him "It won't work very well, you'll be better off getting some Black Widow fishing poles and putting up a dipole or inverted L." He said he was going to try it anyway, and I told him he was wasting his time. A couple of weeks later, he came over on a Saturday, and handed me this pile of aluminum rods and a 40 meter coil. His comment was "Here, this one's for you, if you don't like it, just throw it away!". I figured I'd debunk the myth that it worked once and for all, so I set it up in my front yard and hooked an old MFJ 9040 up to it. I tuned around 40 meters that morning, and didn't hear much so figured I was right and it didn't work. Everything was pretty quiet, and I have 7500 volt primary power lines running right down the Western side of my property and that was less than 50 feet away from where I had this thing set up. Verticals are supposed to really pick up man-made noise, and I didn't hear any, so figured it wasn't working. I called a CQ around 7.030, and got a K5 in Shreveport who gave me a 579. I didn't mention that I was QRP, running only 4 watts and we chatted for about 10 minutes. Got my attention for sure, and I scrounged up the parts to build 30 and 20 meter coils for the thing as per the plans on the NJQRP website. I've used 44', 88' EDZ antennas, dipoles fed with coax and ladder lines, delta loops and others in experimentations, but I keep coming back to the PAC-12. You couldn't get me to part with the two I've built for any reason, and I'm experimenting with phasing lines and spacing attempting to come up with an easily portable 3 band vertical beam using 2 PAC-12's. So far I'm only meeting with limited success, but then the weather hasn't cooperated too well here and it's been to cold to spend enough time outside for this kind of experimentation. I'm 61 and my arthritis doesn't like the cold weather anymore hi. Have fun with the PAC-12, Jim Bennett did his homework on this one. 73, Jim Sheldon - W0EB Park City, (Wichita) KS -----Original Message----- From: owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU]On Behalf Of John Sielke Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 7:49 AM To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: Re: PAC-12 Portable Antenna Kits As one who scoffs and denigrates small antennas in general, let me say that for some reason the PAC-12 far exceeded my expectations. I have set it up and worked station after station with good reports, just using the radials supplied. I am making a kit with some slightly longer ones, to see how that helps. I did make a multiband loading coil out of some B&W coil stock, so I can just move a clip lead to switch bands. A great little antenna at an unbeatable price! (Usual stuff about not having interest in company, just happy customer, blah, blah) John W2AGN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 09:58:16 -0500 From: Bruce Muscolino To: "Michael Melland, W9WIS" Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162396] Re: "ET phone home" ? Message-ID: <3FD09D08.DC6DF93E@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mike, Communication is a different animal than navigation. You can communicate without knowing where you are, you use navigation to find out where you have been, are, and are going. Receiving a signal 400 feet down would be quite a trick for a satellite based transmitter running less than a watt to a vertical antenna! ELF and VLF transmitters used to contact submerged subs seem to run around 2 Megawatts, hardly QRP! Oh, and answering from 400 feet down would be a heck of a trick! Bruce ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 11:08:40 -5 From: "Bill Kelsey - N8ET - Kanga US" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162397] 160 Test this weekend Message-ID: <3FD06738.7985.3BECBB@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body I missed the QRP test this past Wed evening on 160, but I will be on as part of a M/S effort this weekend on the 160 Test. The call will be AD8P. We have some pretty good 160 antennas up, so if you are want to try 160 - give us a shout! 73 - Bill - N8ET Kanga US kanga@bright.net http://www.bright.net/~kanga/ 419-423-4604 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 09:43:27 -0800 From: "john gabbard" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162398] WTB Message-ID: <003401c3bb57$4a89a770$4c861c0c@john> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I am looking for a good working signal tracer/injector reasonably priced. reply direct thanks, john 73's KF7OM ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 12:52:37 -0500 From: "John Shannon" To: "QRP Mail List" Subject: [162399] What can be done with QRP and a simple wire antenna? Message-ID: <000701c3bb58$943dcc60$12842845@alltel.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit If you want to find out, read the story about my portable operation in the recent CQWW DX contest. It's on my web site in my CONTESTING section - Contest Stories page. I think you'll find it very interesting and informative. Past contest stories have been very popular features with my visitors. Hopefully this latest one will be also. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 73 - John, K3WWP - 100% CW & QRP using simple wire antennas. http://home.alltel.net/johnshan/ My website is now in its eighth year of operation and includes the following: DX QSL Routes ** Operating Tips QRP Rigs Info ** CW Contest Calendar Daily Propagation Info ** Your CW Stories Teens and CW ** Monthly polls Categorized Quality Links ** MUCH MORE If you love Morse Code, please join the FISTS club - http://www.fists.org I'm proud to be FISTS # 2002 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:39:38 -0700 From: "John" To: "QRP-L" Subject: [162400] OT:Oscope? Message-ID: <000901c3bb5f$24b62570$6501a8c0@HP5400> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I was looking through the latest ad from ARRL and the front cover of the 2004 Handbook caught my eye. There is a neat looking oscope featured there that appears to have a normal size front panel but it is only about 7 or 8 inches deep. This would be a great scope to have on my bench because of limited space. Does anyone know who the manufacture is? John K7SVV ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:51:23 EST From: ARDUJENSKI@aol.com To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162401] Re: What can be done with QRP and a simple wire antenna? Message-ID: <171.274c797a.2d022dab@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit for those of you who have not regualrly visited John's website you will be in for a pleasant surprise. I find John to be the consumate QRPer and truly a homebrewer. His website is a wealth of information and very inspiring. I would say he represents what QRP and ham radio is all about. Regarding KITTANING, if you are not familiar with the town is a unique quaint town boardering on Mayberry, USA. John claims it is not an exotic place to operate from but I would have a tendency to disagree. Take a google search and check out the neat town. I hope you do take the time to visit his site and bookmark it to be able to come back to visit and pass on to new QRPers. John's story is both refreshing and informative. His string of QRP contacts is awesome. The series of polls are vary interesting. Good reference material Alan KB7MBI in Woodinville, WA FISTS 5702 / ARS / Proud member of ARRL ___ ___ . . . . . . ___ ___ DIT DIT ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 14:03:33 -0500 From: tjennin2@rochester.rr.com To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [162402] FOX: KV2X Fox Log V1.0002 Message-ID: <3FD09035.19638.13F5B7D4@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Hounds, Below is my revised log. Not too many corrections this time. Here is one more chance to check it out before I submit the "official" log. Thanks for all the corrections so far. 73 Tom kv2x UTC Call RST SPC Name Power 0201 K0UU 559 MN JEFF 5 0202 N1FN 559 CO ET 5 0202 N0UR 579 MN JIM 5 0203 K0EVZ 559 NM DOC 5 0204 N0EA 559 MO WAYNE 5 0205 N0DT 559 MO DAN 5 0205 AG0T 559 ND TODD 5 0208 AJ4AY 559 AL JAY 5 0209 N0JRN 559 MO JERRY 5 0210 KI0II 599 CO RON 5 0211 N0TK 579 CO DAN 5 0213 W0CH 579 MO DAVE 5 0213 K2ZN 569 NY AL 5 0214 W5HNS 559 TX HENRY 5 0216 VA6RF 559 AB EARL 5 0217 W0UFO 559 MN MERT 5 0218 KT5V 559 TX DAVE 5 0221 W5YR 559 TX GEORGE 5 0223 KK5LD 559 TX DAN 5 0224 KL7V 539 OK SAM 5 0226 AB5XQ 559 AR BILL 5 0226 K5JHP 559 TX BILL 5 0227 AC5JH 559 OK TOM 5 0229 AK7Y 559 AZ GREG 5 0229 AA5O 559 LA VERN 5 0231 N1TP 559 FL TOM 5 0232 K6VNX 459 CA ARLEN 5 0234 K2TER 559 NY BILL 5 0235 K5EOA 559 LA WAYNE 5 0236 W5TB 559 TX DOC 5 0237 AC7A 559 AZ TOM 5 0238 K5OI 559 OK TIM 5 0239 AG4PJ 559 AL DAVE 5 0240 N5IB 559 LA JIM 5 0240 N5ZE 559 TX LEW 5 0242 N5YFC 559 LA WAYNE 5 0246 K9DI 559 IL WAYNE 5 0248 KD5UDB 559 LA CHRIS 5 0254 AK5X 569 TX BILL 5 0255 W4FOA 559 GA TONY 5 0258 K6XR 559 CA REGGIE 5 0300 K5ZTY 559 TX BILL 5 0302 KG0PP 559 CO JIM 5 0304 NK0E 559 CO DAVE 5 0305 VE5RC 229 SK BRUCE 5 0308 NN5E 559 TX VERN 5 0313 KD5CMN 559 TX MIKE 5 0315 K5DW 559 TX DON 5 0315 W9XT 559 WI GARY 5 0318 N9AU 559 WI RON 5 0322 N0HRL 559 IA KEN 5 0325 N9AW 559 WI JERRY 5 0326 WA9TZE 579 WI JIM 5 0327 NK9G 559 WI RICK 5 0330 W0PWE 559 IA JERRY 5 0330 W9HL 559 IL RANDY 5 0332 W0ANM 559 MN CHRIS 5 0333 KD5UDB 559 LA CHRIS 5 <-- Dup 0334 AB9CA 559 AL DAVE 5 0337 AB0CD 559 CO DICK 5 0340 W0MPR 559 CO GREGG 5 0341 AA5TA 559 TX LARRY 5 0342 K5TR 559 TX GEO 500mw 0343 WA8ZBT 559 TX DENNIS 5 0344 W5TB 559 TX DOC 5 <-- Dup 0349 KR0U 559 CO TIM 5 0351 KI0RB 599 CO VINCE 5 0354 KB5FCF 559 OK JOEL 4 0355 K0LOA 559 TX DWAIN 5 0400 K5DI xxx NM KARL FOX 0400 KV2X xxx NY TOM FOX ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 11:05:24 -0800 From: Mark Danner To: "'qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU'" Subject: [162403] RE: Oscope? Message-ID: <49B4D83BB849004A99F31EDE1237446B2554E3@mail.mfwi.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain John Looks similar to a Tektronics that I use at work. I'm only looking at the picture on the web site, so it's really hard to make out the details. It is similar. Mark AB7MP -----Original Message----- From: John [mailto:digi2@earthlink.net] Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 10:40 AM To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: OT:Oscope? I was looking through the latest ad from ARRL and the front cover of the 2004 Handbook caught my eye. There is a neat looking oscope featured there that appears to have a normal size front panel but it is only about 7 or 8 inches deep. This would be a great scope to have on my bench because of limited space. Does anyone know who the manufacture is? John K7SVV ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 13:18:05 -0600 From: "Michael Melland, W9WIS" To: digi2@earthlink.net, Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162404] Re: OT:Oscope? Message-ID: <000e01c3bb64$843f4ad0$4986e98d@winad.it.uwosh.edu> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Can't see the exact model but it's a Tektronix. Looks like it may possibly be a TDS3000 series. Have $4000 - $10,000 laying around ? . Mike, W9WIS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:50:52 -0600 From: "Meier, Peter H." To: Subject: [162405] AMQRP Homebrewer Mag. # 1 Message-ID: content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Anyone have a printed copy of Homebrewer issue # 1 (August 2003 I = believe) they would part with? I'm looking to buy a copy in good condition and = will also=20 pay postage. That issue is out of print with no back issues left to = sell. Please respond off the list to pmeier@mac.com. Pete WK8S ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:14:51 -0500 From: "Steve Blary" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162406] OT Special Event this evening Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Everyone, Please listen on 20 meters around 14.275 mHz for WX4MC, the call of the Martin County, Florida's ARES/RACES Club. We will be operating Parade Float mobile in the Stuart Soroptimist Holiday Parade this evening from 6:30 pm to 8:00 pm eastern time (2330 UTC to 0100 UTC). I will be using a St. Louis vertical with only 2 radials ... see pictures of trailer at www.wx4mc.org 73 Steve Blary, N1XC www.wx4mc.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 15:42:37 -0500 From: "AI2Q" To: , "'Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion'" Subject: [162407] RE: Manhattan [RE]construction to the rescue! Message-ID: <000e01c3bb70$52a9d920$6401a8c0@hq.cmp.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Excellent, Rod! Many thanks for sharing this with JPEGs. Vy 73, AI2Q, Alex in Kennebunk, Maine QRP-L #687 http://users.adelphia.net/~alexmm/ai2q.htm .-.-. -----Original Message----- From: owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU]On Behalf Of Rod N0RC Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 9:31 AM To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: Manhattan [RE]construction to the rescue! Folks, Here is a link to a photo essay on how I used Manhattan construction techniques, to repair a rig: http://users.frii.com/rwc/ampfix/ Hope it's useful to you. 73, Rod N0RC **Happy Holidays** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 13:55:21 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162408] Paddle #10 arrives Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Went to the post office and there was a tan insulted sack waiting for me and it was from Jerry Haigwood. I opened it up and there was the paddle kit. Every thing was there including a small square of polishing cloth. The plastic tape looked a little the worse for wear but I have plenty in my plumbing supplies. Glad I went to Home Depot yesterday and got the sand paper and stuff. I am wondering however, since I sent $50 for two kits, where the other one is? -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:05:02 -0700 From: "John" To: "Michael Melland, W9WIS" , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162409] Re: OT:Oscope? Message-ID: <002201c3bb73$73c21c00$6501a8c0@HP5400> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ouch! That's a lot of bucks. Lucky for me that you guys will chip in and give me some help. John K7SVV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Melland, W9WIS" To: ; "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 12:18 PM Subject: Re: OT:Oscope? > Can't see the exact model but it's a Tektronix. Looks like it may possibly > be a TDS3000 series. > > Have $4000 - $10,000 laying around ? . > > Mike, W9WIS > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:14:01 -0500 From: "Michael Bower N4NMR" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162410] RE: OT Special Event this evening Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Steve, Wait a minute. We got 10 INCHES of snow last night and expect to get another 6 - 8 tonight. What makes you think we want to talk to anybody in SUNNY Florida. We're going to send you the snow instead. (Just kidding). Will be fun to contact you and you tell about our snow. I'll listen up. Have a nice parade and do some good promotion of radios. Michael N4NMR (of the frozen north) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU]On Behalf Of > Steve Blary > Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 3:15 PM > To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion > Subject: OT Special Event this evening > > > Hello Everyone, > > Please listen on 20 meters around 14.275 mHz for WX4MC, the call of the > Martin County, Florida's ARES/RACES Club. We will be operating > Parade Float > mobile in the Stuart Soroptimist Holiday Parade this evening from > 6:30 pm to > 8:00 pm eastern time (2330 UTC to 0100 UTC). > > I will be using a St. Louis vertical with only 2 radials ... > > see pictures of trailer at www.wx4mc.org > > 73 > Steve Blary, N1XC > www.wx4mc.org > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 14:48:29 -0800 From: "richqrp" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162411] #33 Message-ID: <000e01c3bb81$e714ef30$c1770744@wd6fddstssz5sg> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello to all, Paddles came today. #33 kit came today.. now I have to start working.. 73's , Rich ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Dec 2003 16:37:09 -0700 From: "ross bell" To: Subject: [162412] DSW-20 II Message-ID: <000501c3bb88$b4188cc0$182c13d8@bellfamily> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The DSW-20 II has been sold, thanks to everyone who inquired. Ross K7RSB ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2003 18:49:33 -0500 From: Bruce Muscolino To: ARDUJENSKI@aol.com Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162413] Re: What can be done with QRP and a simple wire antenna? Message-ID: <3FD1198D.32BDFB1F@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Alan, John, and the rest of the list, I can attest to the performance of QRP and simple antennas. Since I came home from my assignment in Holland I have used simple wire antennas. The first was a 40 foot end fed when I lived in a condo. The current one, running across the backyard of my house, is more like a 150 footer. In both cases I have enjoyed good success using them. I have written two articles about my experiences learning their idiosyncrasies and taming them. I have worked all states and DXCC from both locations. I have participated in many contests as well. Simple wire antennas work extremely well. You just have to know how to tame them so they can be fed. They work extremely well with QRP rigs and QRO rigs too. Try one before you discount them! Bruce ------------------------------ End of QRP-L Digest 3125 ************************ --------------------------------