20031212.qrp v03_n132.qrl.20031212 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 19:03:11 EST From: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: QRP-L digest 3132 QRP-L Digest 3132 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) [162871] Hunting the Fox on 80 meters by Karl Larsen 2) [162872] RE: [OT] 73 Magazine archives on-line by "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" 3) [162873] RE: BPL (a Senators response) by "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" 4) [162874] FS K2 by "Dave Martin" 5) [162875] Re: [OT] 73 Magazine archives on-line by "John J. McDonough" 6) [162876] Re: Hunting the Fox on 80 meters by "KXBill" 7) [162877] Re: NEQRP CW Net, by "sslyon" 8) [162878] ATX for sale by goemans 9) [162879] Re: BPL (a Senators response) by w9ya 10) [162880] Re: Hunting the Fox on 80 meters by "TIM O'ROURKE" 11) [162881] Re: Whoopee! A contest without RST! by "Richard Brummer, K2JQ" 12) [162882] Covenent question? by "pschweit" 13) [162883] Z-11 tuner by "John Paul Keon" 14) [162884] FS: Z-11 Autotuner by "John Dooley W6ZIP" 15) [162885] Re: FOX: Idea for Consideration by "Ron KU7Y" 16) [162886] 80 or 40 FOX on Thursday by Chuck Carpenter 17) [162887] Re: New Morse Character by "Charles Mabbott" 18) [162888] 80 Meter conditions by "Jim Sheldon" 19) [162889] Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST by Joseph Mikuckis 20) [162890] 80 meters by Karl Larsen 21) [162891] Re: Covenent question? by Philip L Carter 22) [162892] Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST by "Oleg V. Borodin" 23) [162893] Re: FOX: Idea for Consideration by John Sielke 24) [162894] 80m by k2zn@rochester.rr.com 25) [162895] FREE AOL 9.0 CD in metal case by "Rod N0RC" 26) [162896] Re: 80m by kwike@gdls.com 27) [162897] Re: Covenent question? by "Tom Palmer" 28) [162898] CAT + Audio interacing? by 29) [162899] Whoopee! A contest without RST by "Tom WB5KHC" 30) [162900] Re: 80 meters by Curt Milton 31) [162901] Re: Covenent question? by Bruce Muscolino 32) [162902] Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST by "Richard Brummer, K2JQ" 33) [162903] Re: Covenent question? by Brian 34) [162904] HB Receiver is FB! by "Tom Dufresne" 35) [162905] Re: FREE AOL 9.0 CD in metal case by kizerian@xmission.com 36) [162906] FS: Several QRP Items by "Jeff Imel" 37) [162907] Re: Covenent question? by w9ya 38) [162908] Re: FOX: Idea for Consideration by John Sielke 39) [162909] Re: [OT] 73 Magazine archives on-line by Bruce Muscolino 40) [162910] Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST by "Brad Hedges" 41) [162911] Re: Thanks! by "KB0VCC" 42) [162912] Re: Covenent question? by Bruce Muscolino 43) [162913] O-scopes (again!) by "Brad Hedges" 44) [162914] Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST by Michael Neverdosky 45) [162915] VE3DNL Marker Generator by "Thomas Lewis" 46) [162916] Re: Covenent question? by w9ya 47) [162917] Re: [OT] 73 Magazine archives on-line by w9ya 48) [162918] Re: Covenent question? by w9ya 49) [162919] Re: Covenent question? by "John_Evans" 50) [162920] Re: O-scopes (again!) by "Mike WA8BXN" 51) [162921] Re: Covenent question? by Dale Botkin 52) [162922] Re: 80m by "KXBill" 53) [162923] Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST by Lloyd Lachow 54) [162924] Part assistance - VE3DNL Marker Generator - Mighty box by "wv0q" 55) [162925] Re: O-scopes (again!) by "John J. McDonough" 56) [162926] RE: [qrp-l] Modern keyers w/boatanchors... by "Nick Kennedy" 57) [162927] Re: [OT] 73 Magazine archives on-line by Thom LaCosta 58) [162928] Re: 80m by Karl Larsen 59) [162929] Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST by "DTX" 60) [162930] Re: 80m 0200-0400 by Stevenu7t@aol.com 61) [162931] Re: O-scopes (again!) by Brad Thompson 62) [162932] Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST by "Richard Brummer, K2JQ" 63) [162933] Re: [OT] 73 Magazine archives on-line by w9ya 64) [162934] Re: O-scopes (again!) by "w8diz" 65) [162935] SDR1000? by 66) [162936] Re: O-scopes (again!) by w9ya 67) [162937] Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST by "Jay Henson" 68) [162938] RE: SDR1000? by "Lyle Johnson" 69) [162939] Re: [OT] 73 Magazine archives on-line by "n2cx" 70) [162940] Re: Thanks! by w5xe@juno.com 71) [162941] Re: O-scopes (again!) by "Brad Hernlem" 72) [162942] Re: 80 or 40 FOX on Thursday by Garie Halstead K8KFJ 73) [162943] Re: Covenent question? by "Mike Yetsko" 74) [162944] Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST by WJuergens@t-online.de (Wolf-Ruediger Juergens) 75) [162945] Re: [fpqrp] Re: End of the WAP contest by "Jerry Ford" 76) [162946] Kits from Clubs for Christmas by "Doug Hendricks" 77) [162947] OT Compaq Internet Appliance by tk 78) [162948] Re: Kits from Clubs for Christmas by "Jerry Ford" 79) [162949] Re: Kits from Clubs for Christmas by "Joe Martin" 80) [162950] Re[2]: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST by "Oleg V. Borodin" 81) [162951] Re: Kits from Clubs for Christmas by "Oleg V. Borodin" 82) [162952] Re: Kits from Clubs for Christmas by John Sielke 83) [162953] PEP Mod for OHR WM-1/WM-2 Wattmeters by Larry East 84) [162954] Scratch Built/Thanks QRPLs Expertise by "Bill Linn" 85) [162955] Re: Covenent question? by Bruce Muscolino 86) [162956] Re: Kits from Clubs for Christmas by "Jerry Ford" 87) [162957] Single wire feed Windom? by ARDUJENSKI@aol.com 88) [162958] CQC Lunch Tomorrow by "Marshall Emm" 89) [162959] Fox Hunt Questions by Karl Larsen 90) [162960] Kits for Christmas by "John P. Cummins, Sr." ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 16:35:08 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162871] Hunting the Fox on 80 meters Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII There has not been any decision yet on the idea of using 80 meters for the Fox Hunts. This message is asking, if there was a Hunt on 80 meters, do you have the rig and antenna to get on 80 meters? If you are all set up do nothing. If your lacking a rig and/or antenna for 80 meters please reply to this message to me. You don't need to explain unless you want to. Thanks. -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:33:05 -0500 From: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" To: Subject: [162872] RE: [OT] 73 Magazine archives on-line Message-ID: <721D3436A7C2B344A301FD4A413C71A902512272@kosh.arrlhq.org> content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable It worked for me earlier, then I got little empty boxes, so it truly is = something on their end. I got a look at it while it worked, though, and the concept sure looked = good. Let me pose a question. They indicate that they are going to make them = available for a fee. =20 If all of the magazines were available that way, QST, QEX, CQ, ham = radio, 73, how much do=20 you think such a fee would be? How about three estimates: Per article Each magazine separately available for download for a year Each magazine available for a lifetime If for ARRL pubs, the access to QST downloadable back issues, or at = least most articles that are=20 still timely, were available, how much do you think any additional = charge for that should be, over and above membership. What percentage of members do you think = would be interested? I know that ARRL does sell the products now, but I am just curious how = bundling them as an option with membership would go over and how many would want it. This = has always been a personal pet idea of mine, though I am NOT empowered to make it happen, = but if anything=20 interesting comes of the discussion, I will carry it forth to those that = consider such things.=20 (ARRL does have its bean counters, but as one whose job it is to spend = some of those beans, I am glad they are doing the job I sure wouldn't want!) 73,=20 Ed Hare, W1RFI ARRL Lab 225 Main St Newington, CT 06111 Tel: 860-594-0318 Internet: w1rfi@arrl.org Web: http://www.arrl.org/tis > -----Original Message----- > From: Garey Barrell [mailto:k4oah@mindspring.com] > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:13 PM > To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion > Subject: Re: [OT] 73 Magazine archives on-line >=20 >=20 > Yep, I'm getting "broken" images again. >=20 > Guess they're really working on the system! >=20 > 73, Garey >=20 >=20 > M.M. wrote: >=20 > > At 10:33 12/11/03, Garey Barrell wrote: > >=20 > >> Ed - > >> > >> No, I think it was "down" last night for some reason. I=20 > was getting=20 > >> the page boxes with a small icon. Each icon "broke" or=20 > looked like it=20 > >> was torn, indicating the image was "broken" or not present. Today=20 > >> it's working fine. ... > >=20 > >=20 > > Still not working for me...at 18:00 UTC... > >=20 > > Mark AA7TA > >=20 > >=20 >=20 >=20 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 19:35:04 -0500 From: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162873] RE: BPL (a Senators response) Message-ID: <721D3436A7C2B344A301FD4A413C71A902512273@kosh.arrlhq.org> content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable No Senator writes these sorts of responses. They have staff that they = tell to research issues and formulate a position. The Senator approves = the position, and probably approves the draft, but their staff do all = the work. 73,=20 Ed Hare, W1RFI ARRL Lab 225 Main St Newington, CT 06111 Tel: 860-594-0318 Internet: w1rfi@arrl.org Web: http://www.arrl.org/tis > -----Original Message----- > From: w9ya [mailto:w9ya@arrl.net] > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:16 PM > To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion > Subject: Re: BPL (a Senators response) >=20 >=20 > Sounds like a "canned" response letter that she really didn't write. >=20 > Bob > w9ya >=20 >=20 > On Thursday 11 December 2003 10:33 am, AI2Q wrote: > > Time to write her another letter Terry, and explain more=20 > details to her. > > Hold her feet to the fire! > > > > GL. > > > > Vy 73, AI2Q, Alex in Kennebunk, Maine QRP-L #687 > > http://users.adelphia.net/~alexmm/ai2q.htm > > > > .-.-. > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU=20 [mailto:owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU]On Behalf Of > tmyers > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:44 AM > To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion > Subject: BPL (a Senators response) > > > > This is the text of a letter that I received today from Senator Kay > Bailey Hutchison on the topic of broadband over power lines (BPL). = I'm > not sure she has the point yet. > > Terry, KQ5U > Spring, Texas > > > November 21, 2003 > > Thank you for contacting me regarding the possibility of transmitting > broadband over power lines (BPL). I welcome your thoughts and = comments > on this matter. > > Because broadband and electricity are transmitted over different > frequencies, it is possible to provide Internet access through power > lines, and the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is currently > studying if and how broadband services over power lines should be > regulated. The transmission of BPL through power lines may interfere > with existing radio use by such entities as police and emergency > services so the FCC must proceed cautiously. FCC Chairman Michael > Powell has pledged to protect access for those users, even if it means > shifting the frequencies over which broadband will be transmitted. > > As a member of the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation > Committee, I support increased access to the Internet, and broadband > over power lines may deliver a solution for rural areas. However, it = is > essential BPL compete fairly with other delivery methods. As I = continue > to study this issue, you may be certain I will keep your views in = mind. > > I appreciate hearing from you and hope you will not hesitate to = contact > me on any issue of concern to you. > > Sincerely, > Kay Bailey Hutchison > http://hutchison.senate.gov ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 17:19:41 -0800 From: "Dave Martin" To: "qrp-l" Subject: [162874] FS K2 Message-ID: <000501c3c04e$19ef4880$318c2640@davemartin> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit K2, #2608. In very good mechanical and cosmetic condition with 160 meter and noise blanker boards. $600 plus shipping. Thanks and 73. Dave K2ZU ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:32:59 -0500 From: "John J. McDonough" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162875] Re: [OT] 73 Magazine archives on-line Message-ID: <006601c3c04f$e0f0e960$090044c0@BrianBoru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It would have to be less than the CDs, unless the web site had a truly magnificent search engine (not bloody likely). The CD's are a wonderful convenience, especially now that they are in pdf. Each year I buy the CD, freeing up space in the shack for the next year's dead tree copy. The CD's are easily searchable, it's easy to print out one or two pages when you are building something, if I'm having trouble finding the time to read a particularly interesting article I can download it to my Palm for whenever I find a little downtime. Earlier this year I was doing a study on NTS and I was able to cut and paste volumes of data off the CDs for analysis. The web won't be as effective for any of this. What the web will do is make avaiable something I don't care enough about to buy the CD. So, for example, it might be useful (for me) to see CQ there. That's a magazine that has about 2% interesting content to me. So if I discovered an article that I really wanted to see, it might be worth a buck or two for the article, but I couldn't see paying anything significant for a year's worth or something like that. If I cared that much I'd have the CD. And the idea of "available for a lifetime" is just plain silly. Even if I could find it a year or three later, some web genius is going to have mucked it up so bad by that time it will be unuseable (yeah, I'm a little cynical of this web stuff!) Have you EVER seen a web site that didn't get more and more annoying as time goes on? OK, maybe arrl.org hasn't gotten bad as fast as some others, but it started off as impenetrable! If there was some good article I bookmarked, there is zero possibility it will be at the same place in a few years. Even arrl.org, which has maintained the same look and feel for an amazingly long time, seems compelled to shuffle around all the URLs every year or two. So the web is too fickle for anything beyond a year or so. I don't think the idea of a pay per article thing would be all that good. However, if you had some sort of credit for a number of articles, maybe. I don't think people would pay more than a couple of bucks for an article, and going through the whole credit card thing for one article is likely to be more trouble than it's worth. Might work, though, to sell credits for N articles so that when I suddenly need one, I don't have to go through a lot of hassle to get it. Of course, that would take some confidence that the site will be around for a while. Probably the League could pull that off. Just some thoughts, 72/73 de WB8RCR http://www.qsl.net/wb8rcr didileydadidah QRP-L #1446 Code Warriors #35 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hare,Ed, W1RFI" Subject: RE: [OT] 73 Magazine archives on-line > Let me pose a question. They indicate that they are going to make them available for a fee. > If all of the magazines were available that way, QST, QEX, CQ, ham radio, 73, how much do > you think such a fee would be? > > How about three estimates: > > Per article > Each magazine separately available for download for a year > Each magazine available for a lifetime > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:37:55 -0700 From: "KXBill" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162876] Re: Hunting the Fox on 80 meters Message-ID: <019201c3c050$90ebe040$76d70344@ph.cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Karl: Guess we could have a poll. I for one, am in favor of holding the Fox hunt twice a week. One on 40 and then 80. My 88ft low dipole loads up fine on 80. 160 would be a challenge. Cheers BillH_w7kxb_ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karl Larsen" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 16:35 Subject: Hunting the Fox on 80 meters > > There has not been any decision yet on the idea of using 80 > meters for the Fox Hunts. This message is asking, if there was a Hunt on > 80 meters, do you have the rig and antenna to get on 80 meters? > > If you are all set up do nothing. If your lacking a rig and/or > antenna for 80 meters please reply to this message to me. You don't need > to explain unless you want to. > > Thanks. > > -- > > - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - > > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:59:08 -0500 From: "sslyon" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162877] Re: NEQRP CW Net, Message-ID: <000a01c3c053$87e5aaa0$47c7e742@megalink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit WOW! talk about nasty condx... I was 15 min. late and ED, AB8DF was pounding in here... but when he went back to Chuck... sounded like I was using a screwdriver in the antenna jack. (3/3/9) Very fluttery QSB and nasty QRN. Heard W2SH at 559 at the end but guess he was the last gasp. I like these and other nets as (among other benefits) they paint a great picture of how propagation to the same cast of characters varies over time and provide good baseline data when antenna or equipment changes. Thanks for keeping the faith, Chuck, Ron, and the gang. 73 seab aa1my ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 20:12:44 -0600 From: goemans To: QRP-L Subject: [162878] ATX for sale Message-ID: <006401c3c055$6e5df3b0$ced86880@PAUL> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Hello, Short "to the field" season here, so I have for sale: A Waters and Stanton (England) ATX Walkabout 80-6 portable vertical antenna. This is the same as the MFJ 1899t. In like-new condition, with instructions. I will throw in a custom-built BNC mounting plate with a short RG174 coax/BNC that will clamp to any flat surface, such as a picnic table edge! $80 shipped in conUS. Paul R Goemans WA9PWP Stoughton, WI 53589 ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:12:56 -0500 From: w9ya To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162879] Re: BPL (a Senators response) Message-ID: <200312112212.56531.w9ya@arrl.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hey Ed; Yes, I was being rhetorical in response to the original post, in that by writing another letter, one does not "inform her" of anything, but merely give some info to someone who may or may not get her (the politician's) attention. Or put another way; politicians are merely once removed from the "red light district", and maybe once removed to a worse neighborhood. As such the logical or ethically moral argument is of little concern to them without more than one vote behind it. Very best regards; Bob w9ya On Thursday 11 December 2003 07:35 pm, Hare,Ed, W1RFI wrote: > No Senator writes these sorts of responses. They have staff that they tell > to research issues and formulate a position. The Senator approves the > position, and probably approves the draft, but their staff do all the work. > > 73, > Ed Hare, W1RFI > ARRL Lab > 225 Main St > Newington, CT 06111 > Tel: 860-594-0318 > Internet: w1rfi@arrl.org > Web: http://www.arrl.org/tis > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: w9ya [mailto:w9ya@arrl.net] > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 5:16 PM > > To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion > > Subject: Re: BPL (a Senators response) > > > > > > Sounds like a "canned" response letter that she really didn't write. > > > > Bob > > w9ya > > > > On Thursday 11 December 2003 10:33 am, AI2Q wrote: > > > Time to write her another letter Terry, and explain more > > > > details to her. > > > > > Hold her feet to the fire! > > > > > > GL. > > > > > > Vy 73, AI2Q, Alex in Kennebunk, Maine QRP-L #687 > > > http://users.adelphia.net/~alexmm/ai2q.htm > > > > > > .-.-. > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU > > [mailto:owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU]On Behalf Of > > > tmyers > > Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 1:44 AM > > To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion > > Subject: BPL (a Senators response) > > > > > > > > This is the text of a letter that I received today from Senator Kay > > Bailey Hutchison on the topic of broadband over power lines (BPL). I'm > > not sure she has the point yet. > > > > Terry, KQ5U > > Spring, Texas > > > > > > November 21, 2003 > > > > Thank you for contacting me regarding the possibility of transmitting > > broadband over power lines (BPL). I welcome your thoughts and comments > > on this matter. > > > > Because broadband and electricity are transmitted over different > > frequencies, it is possible to provide Internet access through power > > lines, and the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) is currently > > studying if and how broadband services over power lines should be > > regulated. The transmission of BPL through power lines may interfere > > with existing radio use by such entities as police and emergency > > services so the FCC must proceed cautiously. FCC Chairman Michael > > Powell has pledged to protect access for those users, even if it means > > shifting the frequencies over which broadband will be transmitted. > > > > As a member of the Senate Commerce, Science and Transportation > > Committee, I support increased access to the Internet, and broadband > > over power lines may deliver a solution for rural areas. However, it is > > essential BPL compete fairly with other delivery methods. As I continue > > to study this issue, you may be certain I will keep your views in mind. > > > > I appreciate hearing from you and hope you will not hesitate to contact > > me on any issue of concern to you. > > > > Sincerely, > > Kay Bailey Hutchison > > http://hutchison.senate.gov ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:13:17 -0500 From: "TIM O'ROURKE" To: Subject: [162880] Re: Hunting the Fox on 80 meters Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I will vote for another nite as I am always tied up with scouts on Tuesday. Tim O'Rourke W4YN ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:36:41 -0500 From: "Richard Brummer, K2JQ" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162881] Re: Whoopee! A contest without RST! Message-ID: <041f01c3c069$8b504ae0$6401a8c0@mydomain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey -- we have a Telephone Area Code (TAC) Contest, so why not a Zip Code Contest ? 73 Dick K2JQ ----- Original Message ----- From: "KXBill" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 4:29 PM Subject: Re: Whoopee! A contest without RST! > Replace the RST with your zip code. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:58:09 -0600 From: "pschweit" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162882] Covenent question? Message-ID: <004001c3c074$ecb91e00$69e7add1@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Well .. I was looking at a property in Wisconsin. I asked if there was a covenant involved. The real estate agent did send me a copy and ,, as I suspected, I was out of luck. No freestanding or guyed antenna support structures. I mentally was/ am looking elseware. THEN!! Seems the real estate agent relayed my disappointment to the developer. The developer has inquired what I have in mind. well then. I eventually would like to have the 50 ft tower with a sommer antenna. the question I pose to the list: 1) should I tell the agent what I have in mind or should I think smaller? and as far as the developers concern..... 2) a, is it possible that the developer sees a buyer going elsewhere? b, it is in the covenant that the developer can build anything they please on a lot. c, is there legislation or a court case in the wings. constructive input would be helpful here. DE K0CD Rob ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 01:11:42 -0500 From: "John Paul Keon" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162883] Z-11 tuner Message-ID: <103a01c3c076$d145eac0$6601a8c0@nc.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Anyone know where to purchase a new Z11 tuner? Anyone have one for sale? John Paul, Raleigh, NC [AB4PP]//NNN UTV http://www.knightlites.org "We all take different paths in life, but no matter where we go, we take a little of each other everywhere." ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 22:31:56 -0800 From: "John Dooley W6ZIP" To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [162884] FS: Z-11 Autotuner Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Fore Sale: Z-11 autotuner in pristine shape, ver 1.5 firmware. Looking for $125 shipped to CONUS. -72, John W6ZIP Victorville, Ca. QRP-l #2402 ARS #712 FISTS #9371 FPQRP #645 _________________________________________________________________ Our best dial-up offer is back. Get MSN Dial-up Internet Service for 6 months @ $9.95/month now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 23:44:25 -0700 From: "Ron KU7Y" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162885] Re: FOX: Idea for Consideration Message-ID: <004a01c3c07b$7a873ea0$7a910b45@ku7y> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All, Lets look at the subject of correcting the Fox log...... Some seem to think that they will loose a pelt if the Fox gets their call wrong and then doesn't correct it. But stop and think about this.... It really is up to YOU at the time of the contact to make SURE that the Fox has your call right. Lets look at that..... You call the Fox: W1XXX The Fox comes back with something like this: W1XXX 559 AZ 5w Now that means that the Fox has your call right. If the Fox had sent something like this: W1XXD 559 AZ 5w it's up to you to correct the call BEFORE sending your half of the exchange. Oh, you say that there is so much QRM/QRN or whatever that you can't really hear everything the Fox sent? How can you claim the contact if you really didn't hear your call being sent correctly? :-) Now if the Fox is paper logging and types the log into the computer and makes some typos, oh well! Each Fox should get knocked down for each wrong call in the log. Simple to do and it would give good incentive to get things right the first time. Logs should NEVER be changed after the contest. Notes made during the contest by the operator can be used but that's all. No information that was not gotten during real time during the event should never be allowed. And in this day and age of computers and internet I don't see why there can't be a very short time limit on getting logs into the sponsor. 24 hours seems like a LOT of time to me. Maybe 5 or 10 hours might even be better. YMMV....... OK, back in my hole..... 73, Ron, KU7Y ku7y@qsl.net Brenda, AZ (or somewhere close!) http://www.qsl.net/ku7y http://www.BrendaJamFest.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 04:36:38 -0600 From: Chuck Carpenter To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162886] 80 or 40 FOX on Thursday Message-ID: <3.0.2.32.20031212043638.0083c8e0@mail.9plus.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Also having a Tuesday nite conflict, I'd vote for a Fox Hunt on Thursday. Either 80 or 40 meters. Listening around on 80 recently, sounds like 80 might be a lot of fun around 3560. No BC stations and doesn't seem to be as noisy as 40 just now. Chuck Carpenter, W5USJ, Point, Rains Co., TX - EM22cv, NETXQRP #1 QRP-ARCI #5422, QRP-L #1306, QRPp-I #115, ARS #1280, SOC #57 Zombie #759, COG #11, 6 Club #201, FP #601 oo http://www.netxqrp.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:01:41 -0500 From: "Charles Mabbott" To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [162887] Re: New Morse Character Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Lets see if we use the AT for @ I am thinking the TV station in Chicago would be WGN or @GN I have some friends with an e-mail containing a 'w' before @ and that seems confusing. The new symbol 'AC' [@] while awkward over a period of time could at least be standardized After a while it will not be much different than the 'DN' [/] 73 Chuck AA8VS "The art of medicine consists of amusing the patient while Nature cures the disease." Voltaire www.aa8vs.org/nren ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Lee Hopper" Reply-To: leehopp@msn.com To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: Re: New Morse Character Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2003 09:34:37 -0800 I find that translating "hi" to "!" works pretty well. -LH, NB7F Bruce Prior mused: > ... very badly needed character is ! (exclamation mark). I've proposed > . - . . _________________________________________________________________ Browse styles for all ages, from the latest looks to cozy weekend wear at MSN Shopping. And check out the beauty products! http://shopping.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 06:25:56 -0600 From: "Jim Sheldon" To: "Flying Pigs Mailing List" , "QRP-L Mailing List" , Subject: [162888] 80 Meter conditions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Early morning conditions on 80 meters have been really great lately. I usually get up around 5 a.m. and while eating my oatmeal and drinking a cup or 5 of coffee, I plug in the little SW80+ and tune around between 3.530 and 3.575 MHz. Worked WA0KZL and W5USJ (Estherville, IA and Point, TX) with reasonable signals at 5:30 - 6:00 a.m. Central, (1130Z - 1200Z). Both had signals running 589-599. I think Chuck, W5USJ was QRP, and Tex, WA0KZL was running 100 Watts - He sounded like he was right next door. There was a little QSB but not really bad, and signals never went below readable levels. Equipment used was a Small Wonder Labs SW80+ running 2.5 - 3 watts and a Barker & Williamson TTFD broadband folded dipole that everyone keeps saying is a very poor antenna. I've been using one for 3 years now, and have had super results running QRP with it on 160,80,40 and all the WARC bands. I would definitely be in favor of a second Fox Hunt on 80 meters. 40 has been shutting down here, and haven't heard any of the foxii from Wichita since the fall/winter hunts started. When Jerry, N0JRN was the FP "Truffle" the last time, I worked him with good sigs about 15 minutes before the hunt started at 0130Z, but by the time 0130 got here, all I could hear was the piggies calling him and they were down to S1 or S2 signals. 80 has been quite good from about 2300Z right through sunrise here, with coast-to-coast signals heard here most of the time. 20 has been absolutely super from here during the daylight hours, and haven't had to fire up the FT-847 @ 100 watts at all to work any DX I've heard lately. I usually keep the DSW-II-20 on during the day, and in the last couple of weeks have worked France long path, and Australia with the little 3 watter. Here in the central states, 20 has been shutting down shortly after sunset and opening just before or slightly after dawn, with 1 hop signals out to 8-900 miles holding steady even with QRP power at S8 to S9 sometimes for several hours with very little QSB at all. Too bad we can't stop the cycle right here! Jim - W0EB ARRL, A1-OP Club, RCC, Code Proficiency 45 WPM, FP#-616, QRP-L#-2487, ARS#-1495 NorCal Zombie#-808 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:27:05 -0500 From: Joseph Mikuckis To: QRP-L Mailing List Subject: [162889] Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST Message-ID: <3FD9B419.6EC34110@rcn.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is one problem. Some of us who are working for various awards need QSL cards. And QSL cards, in order to be valid, require the RS/T report. Joe, K3CHP Frederica, DE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 06:08:12 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162890] 80 meters Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII This evening 80 meters had a high band noise and I didn't hear any real close stations. In fact there were just a very few stations. I heard near 3.56 n8sed taking to k0fcg but both stations were not strong. It was a terrible day on 40 and a bad day on 80 meters. -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:01:18 -0500 (EST) From: Philip L Carter To: pschweit Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162891] Re: Covenent question? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sure I would tell the agent/developer. The covenants are written by the developer, and he has the option to change them based on local zoning code, wants and desires. Maybe he does see potential buyers going elsewhere. Tell him you want the maximum height tower permitted by zoning in other parts of the community. Freestanding or guyed will depend on what permits and how much land exists. If you want 50' and a 10' mast, tell him it will be a 60' (or whatever your plans are) structure and show him drawings. He may just be trying to accomidate you. Maybe he is a ham too, or wants to be. Can't hurt. Worst that can happen is he says no. NRE/COLE Test Center OH-3 pcarter@gcfn.org or wd8qwr@arrl.net Philip L. Carter, WD8QWR wd8qwr@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.na ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:21:23 +0300 From: "Oleg V. Borodin" To: Joseph Mikuckis Cc: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162892] Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST Message-ID: <1075422468.20031212162123@lipetsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good day for all there! JM> There is one problem. Some of us who are working for various awards JM> need QSL cards. And QSL cards, in order to be valid, require the RS/T JM> report. JM> Joe, K3CHP I'm agree with Josef 100%. In accordance with an old communication Rules, the QSO recognized actual (in fact) when stations exchenged the reports (necessarily!) No reports - no QSO! On the other hand, to be truthful sending RST, for QRP-QSO especially. Also, why to not interchange WW-Locators at QRP-QSOs as it is accepted already in Digital modes (HF)? Mine, it is more interesting to know exact distance between mine and my correspondent stations, rather than as his city named. I offer at QRP-QSOs to interchange WW-Locators alongside with RST. Wish you all the best! 72! de RV3GM Oleg ("Master-72") V. Borodin http://ruqrp.narod.ru === In QRP We Trust! === ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:47:18 -0500 From: John Sielke To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162893] Re: FOX: Idea for Consideration Message-ID: <3FD9C6E6.2080603@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Oh, you say that there is so much QRM/QRN or whatever that you can't really hear > everything the Fox sent? How can you claim the contact if you really didn't > hear your call being sent correctly? :-) Than ks, Ron. Every time I have said something like that all I hear are cries of anguish and the old saw," It's supposed to be fun." It has always seemed to me that something is more fun when it is really rather than given away. Hmmmm...that could also apply to licensing, but better not go there..... John W2AGN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:51:53 -0500 From: k2zn@rochester.rr.com To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162894] 80m Message-ID: <5ae8c5567b.5567b5ae8c@nyroc.rr.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-language: en Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-disposition: inline Persuant to the 80m Fox proposal, is anyone west of the Rockies interested in doing some propagation experimenting with me during the 0200-0400Z timeframe? Even if there are no hunts on 80, it could certainly be a good learning exercise. 72 - Al, K2ZN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:03:26 -0700 From: "Rod N0RC" To: "qrp-l" Subject: [162895] FREE AOL 9.0 CD in metal case Message-ID: <006001c3c0b8$b80051d0$6501a8c0@greyrock> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Folks, I don't need the case, nor do I want AOL. If you want the case send me $1 to cover the mailing cost and it is yours. Case measures: 124mm x 140mm, 11mm thick 73, Rod N0RC **Happy Holidays** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:07:35 -0500 From: kwike@gdls.com To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162896] Re: 80m Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Me to. Ed AB8DF k2zn@rochester .rr.com To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent by: cc: owner-qrp-l@Le Subject: 80m high.EDU 12/12/2003 08:51 AM Please respond to k2zn Persuant to the 80m Fox proposal, is anyone west of the Rockies interested in doing some propagation experimenting with me during the 0200-0400Z timeframe? Even if there are no hunts on 80, it could certainly be a good learning exercise. 72 - Al, K2ZN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:10:01 -0500 From: "Tom Palmer" To: Subject: [162897] Re: Covenent question? Message-ID: <000301c3c0b9$a25d1d80$4f3b0843@swfla.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Re: Private Restrictive Covenants. Always inform the agent exactly what you want to do and discuss how the restrictive covenants prohibit or restrict your desires. Most restrictive covenants provisions apply equally to developers. If purchasers cannot install antennas, it's probable that neither can the developer. Vary few restrictive covenants authorize the developer to grant individual case exceptions to generally applicable restrictions. Most developers do not want to have any authority to grant exceptions. Few developers will even consider eliminating or amending restrictions. Restrictive covenants are carefully considered before they are adopted. Potential loss of prospetive purchasers is always considered before enactment of restrictive covenants. Federal Law and the law of most states akkow private restrictive covenants that absolutely prohibit all out of doors ham radio antennas. FCC Rule PRB-1 mandates that states and local governments (municipalities and counties) shall not enact laws, ordinances, rules or regu;ations that prohibit ham radio antennas, but PRB-1 does NOT apply to private restrictive covenants with regard to out of doors ham radio antennas. These issues are well settled in law. Do not expect that laws are going to be amended to diminish these rights of developers. Do not expect that judicial decisions are going to diminish these rights of developers. Tom, N1TP - Attorney at Law in Washington, D.C., Missouri and Florida. Naples, Florida ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:15:25 -0500 (EST) From: To: Subject: [162898] CAT + Audio interacing? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I have been etching a pcb for a CAT interface using a MAX232 chip and a 7417 Hex/Buffer/Driver. That seems like it should work. It will use a com port. Has anyone built an Audio interface and CAT interface that uses the same com port? Has anyone connected both units to the same port and had them both work? Both of my interfaces were under $10 so I am only interested in Homebrew designs :) I can make pcboards and build from schematics but I am too dumb to design anything... 73, Jim n2go ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:28:33 -0600 From: "Tom WB5KHC" To: "QRP L Mailing List" Subject: [162899] Whoopee! A contest without RST Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is another problem with eliminating RST exchanges for those using logging software that require a numeric field for RST. Personally, I would prefer the exchange to be First Name and ARCI # but if the logging software would only accept a numeric field entry for RST; that won't work. Tom Owens, WB5KHC QRP ARCI 10645 Fists 7865/CC 1026 QRP ARCI Contest Mgr 2004 & Certificate Mgr ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 06:03:23 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Milton To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162900] Re: 80 meters Message-ID: <20031212140323.84519.qmail@web60803.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Well maybe conditions changed a lot from sundown east to sundown west. i had a nice QSO on 80m with K5KW - MD to OK both QRP with simple and low wire antennas. RST on both ends was 569 with just a little QSB and QRM on his end. that was all the operating time i had. 80m was very active here as i heard close in stations as well as distant ones. I think the key is to radiate on whatever bands you got - i have enjoyed CW from 1.8 MHz to 144 MHz (the latter including experience of aurora and meteor scatter.) when one band is not working QSY! I have not yet had a great antenna. Previous QTH backyard was about 60 by 40 feet, with a power line going diagonal across it. i was able to safely put an inverted V in one corner with twists and tangles and bends. here i have a low off-center fed dipole as i have no high trees available. the 160m half sloper in QST/ARRL TIS website (using a vertical wire if you don't have a tower) can be adapted to 80m for someone who can't stretch out enough wire. I guess if propagation were always great this hobby would not be quite as interesting - like weather here in the east it will change! curt wb8yyy --- Karl Larsen wrote: > > This evening 80 meters had a high band noise and I > didn't hear > any real close stations. In fact there were just a > very few stations. I > heard near 3.56 n8sed taking to k0fcg but both > stations were not strong. > It was a terrible day on 40 and a bad day on 80 > meters. > > -- > > - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az > ScQRPions - > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:21:26 -0500 From: Bruce Muscolino To: pschweit@mninter.net Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162901] Re: Covenent question? Message-ID: <3FD9CEE6.1C556525@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The issue that affects your property puttees os THE DEVELOPER SETS ATT. CONDITIONS, COVENANTS AND RESTRICTIONS on your purchase. The AGENT can say anything to keep you interested, BUT NOTHING he says has any weight on the deal. Consider a car dealer's contract. They specifficaly state that only the dealer can sign on any changes. The sales agent can say anything he wants, promise you anything, but the final say is the dealers. YOU should be dealing direct with the developer about removing any covenants, conditions, and restrictions on your prospective properly Only he cam make a change to your contract that will be binding. Remember, the developer is usually under no pressure to change any condition on your sale. He is not interested in just one sale, he has an entire development to sell. Be careful that the offer is coming from the developer and not the real estate agent. Next investigate whether the conditions are not coming from the city or county. Often they will have conditions or restrictions they find valuable to future development of an area, and pass them along to developers. If your offer is coming directly from the developer you should ask for complete relaxation of any and all restrictions on your property, and ask for a written contract modification that is good for the life of the contract. Ignore the agent in this case, get the contract modification signed by the developer. Buy the house from the agent only after you have the signed modification. 73 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:30:46 -0500 From: "Richard Brummer, K2JQ" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162902] Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST Message-ID: <04a601c3c0bc$88b2a6e0$6401a8c0@mydomain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit What do we do with established contests such as Field Day or Novemeber Sweepstakes, where RST is not part of the exchange ? Are QSL's from contacts in these contests invalid for award consideration ? Seems to me that this topic has surfaced before, but I have forgotten the result. Dick K2JQ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Mikuckis" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 7:27 AM Subject: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST > There is one problem. Some of us who are working for various awards > need QSL cards. And QSL cards, in order to be valid, require the RS/T > report. > > Joe, K3CHP > Frederica, DE > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:31:12 -0500 From: Brian To: "" Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162903] Re: Covenent question? Message-ID: <1071239472.3fd9d130c176b@webmail.iquest.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Tell him EXACTLY what you are wanting to build. If he approves it, get it in writing and then, most important, FILE THE DOCUMENT WITH THE COUNTY ASSESSOR OFFICE. If you get a crusty home owner association, they may try to say the developer had no authority to grant you the exemption. Seek a real estate attorney to look over whatever you get in writing from the developer, he may cost you a hundred bucks or so but it'll be worth it if you don't ever have to pull your tower down. In Indiana the covenants have to be filed with the county assessor office, and they become part of the public record. Check yours closely and good luck. It's VERY difficult to get a covenant changed, and costly to boot. So if you have a chance to head the antenna restriction off BEFORE the development is finished, I'd say go for it.....but go carefully. 73 de KB9BVN Quoting pschweit : > Well .. > > I was looking at a property in Wisconsin. I asked if there was a covenant > involved. The real estate agent did send me a copy and ,, as I suspected, I > was out of luck. No freestanding or guyed antenna support structures. I > mentally was/ am looking elseware. > > THEN!! > > Seems the real estate agent relayed my disappointment to the developer. The > developer has inquired what I have in mind. > > well then. > > I eventually would like to have the 50 ft tower with a sommer antenna. > > the question I pose to the list: > > 1) should I tell the agent what I have in mind or should I think smaller? > > and as far as the developers concern..... > > 2) a, is it possible that the developer sees a buyer going elsewhere? > b, it is in the covenant that the developer can build anything they > please on a lot. > c, is there legislation or a court case in the wings. > > > constructive input would be helpful here. > > DE K0CD > Rob > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:31:47 +0000 From: "Tom Dufresne" To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162904] HB Receiver is FB! Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Thanks to Ron, N0RC, my homebrew "Simple Receiver for Beginners" is up and running! The design is taken from a ARRL Handbook (1981) and I have been building it now for almost 3 years! (Ok so I'm slow..) It has been a source of frustration, but I finally took Ron up on his offer when he said he wanted to "give some back" to hams and the hobby. He took a look at it, fixed a bug in the audio amp section, then helped me find a proper inductor. I was using a 5 mH inductor, the rig called for a 5uH slug tuned inductor. Well, the short of it was I finally found an inductor from Surplus Supply here in Omaha, they had one that ranged from 3-18uH. Close enough to start! Well, she sure made that VFO work! I still couldn't get anything though from the rig, it was as if the thing was not connected to an antenna. I finally, almost out of frustration, bypassed completely the front end filter. The front end filter is composed of L1 and L2, L1 is 2 turns wrapped around the "cold end" of L2, With 2 mica variable caps in between, and L3. Well, remember the part on Christmas Vacation when Clark finally gets the lights to work? Alleluia!! CW!! Glorious CW!!! So I have bypassed the filter and had a fun time listening to all the cw on the lower part of 40 meters. I even recorded a pileup and QSL'ed some of the callsigns I could ID. It was so cool! The rig was completely naked, I felt almost like I was sneaking downstairs as a kid to see if Santa had come. Anyway, she works! I need to fine tune it, maybe add a filter for the audio, and see if I can de-bug the front end filter. Any ideas? Thanks for listening and thanks especially to Ron. To me, this is what amateur radio is all about! 73, Tom KC0GXX _________________________________________________________________ Shop online for kids toys by age group, price range, and toy category at MSN Shopping. No waiting for a clerk to help you! http://shopping.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:33:21 -0700 From: kizerian@xmission.com To: rc7039-hr@yahoo.com Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162905] Re: FREE AOL 9.0 CD in metal case Message-ID: <1071239601.3fd9d1b125d56@webmail.xmission.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Rod Don't throw out the case!...just the disk. Those little trays are most excellent when used as disposable hot glue gun trays. We are crafty people here in our house and we use copious quantities of that marvelous substance. The trays make a perfect rest for your hot glue gun, keeping the glop from getting on your desk or work bench. When the tray is too gummed up to use any more I throw it away and check the mailbox for another one. These metal tins are without a doubt the most useful thing AOL has ever done. I doubt, however you'll get a taker on your offer since they are more ubiquitous than flys on cow dung in the summer. Sincerely Bruce kk7zz www.elmerdude.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:35:59 -0500 From: "Jeff Imel" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162906] FS: Several QRP Items Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have some excess rigs sitting around the house that I would like to help find new homes. Gotta finance that KX1! Shipping is included for United States. Please email me for a shipping quote outside of the United States. If for any reason you are not pleased with any item you purchase, ship it back to me within 48 hours of receiving it, in its original, working condition and I will refund your money. Contact me at jeffimel@hotmail.com if you are interested in any of these items. Thanks so much es 73. Small Wonder Labs DSW-40, 40 Meter QRP CW Transceiver. Comes in the light blue anodized aluminum enclosure. Original documentation included. $120 shipped. NorCal 20 with all of the modifications and the updated TiCK keyer chip. I have three of these now in my collection and I should let one go to finance my KX1. Original documentation and all modification documentation included. $120 shipped. Wilderness Radio SST-30. $55 shipped. MFJ-901B 200 watt PEP Versa Tuner. Match dipoles, random wires, verticals, mobile whips, beams, balanced and coax lines continuously from 1.8 - 30 MHz. A 4:1 balun for balanced lines is built in. $55 shipped. Wilderness Radio NorCal 40A. $90 shipped. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:41:24 -0500 From: w9ya To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162907] Re: Covenent question? Message-ID: <200312120941.24636.w9ya@arrl.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 12 December 2003 08:01 am, Philip L Carter wrote: > Sure I would tell the agent/developer. The covenants are written by the > developer, and he has the option to change them based on local zoning > code, wants and desires. Maybe he does see potential buyers going > elsewhere. > > Tell him you want the maximum height tower permitted by zoning in other > parts of the community. Freestanding or guyed will depend on what permits > and how much land exists. If you want 50' and a 10' mast, tell him it > will be a 60' (or whatever your plans are) structure and show him > drawings. He may just be trying to accomidate you. Maybe he is a ham > too, or wants to be. Can't hurt. Worst that can happen is he says no. Well Rob's plans can change after he moves in. Negotiate for the ability to ANYTHING the state allows. Even community restrictions can remain on the books and be superceeded by state or federal mandates or otherwise. Depending on the developer try to gauge how he reacts. That should determine how Rob acts. If it was me, I know I don't want to have my neighbors making these decisions for me, and after the developer leaves, you are left with those restrictions you agreed to and your neighbors to enforce them. That can be a very ugly site. The best course, if the developer is willing , is to remove those covenants in their entirety. It probably won't hurt to ask for that, as most other buyers don't miss such things if they are not included with the other restrictions. Vy 72; Bob w9ya P.S. I went thru this myself. I just sat across the table at a deed signing meeting for the land we bought, and said no. I had cash in hand, so they agreed to strike those covenants and others I found myself unwilling to live with. I got what I wanted. YMMV For what it is worth, my neighbors are curious from time to time about my lightning arrestors. Hi Hi > > > NRE/COLE Test Center OH-3 > pcarter@gcfn.org or wd8qwr@arrl.net > Philip L. Carter, WD8QWR > wd8qwr@w8cqk.#cmh.oh.usa.na ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:40:28 -0500 From: John Sielke To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162908] Re: FOX: Idea for Consideration Message-ID: <3FD9D35C.8030503@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > It has always seemed to me that something is more fun when it is really > rather than given away. That should, of course, read "It has always seemed to me that something is more fun when it is really EARNED rather than given away." Don't you just HATE it when you screw up a perfectly good rant? John W2AGN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:49:08 -0500 From: Bruce Muscolino To: "John J. McDonough" Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162909] Re: [OT] 73 Magazine archives on-line Message-ID: <3FD9D564.FDE26B26@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Remember, the CDs cost $40 per 5 or 10 years. The yearly CDs aren't much cheaper either! For me, my first choice is the original magazines. Second choice is the CDs. The CDs are difficult to read on a computer screen because the screen is not often formatted for the page and you have to continually push the change page button. And what do you do when the story is continued on another page! But those things aside, I would rather see the CDs produced as stand alone volumes of 5 or 10 years sold for $0.00. That way I would always have them. 73 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:59:28 -0500 From: "Brad Hedges" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162910] Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST Message-ID: <004701c3c0c0$8ae93920$19c63942@nc.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This subject was talked about just a couple of weeks back - Posts from the ARRL's web site confirmed that RST was not required on QSL's - only 2-way communication, along with the date, freq, and calls. RST in reality is very subjective and a 599 to one person may be only 377 to someone else. FWIW, K0BHC Brad ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Brummer, K2JQ" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 9:30 AM Subject: Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST > What do we do with established contests such as Field Day or Novemeber > Sweepstakes, where RST is not part of the exchange ? > > Are QSL's from contacts in these contests invalid for award consideration ? > > Seems to me that this topic has surfaced before, but I have forgotten the > result. > > Dick K2JQ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joseph Mikuckis" > To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 7:27 AM > Subject: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST > > > > There is one problem. Some of us who are working for various awards > > need QSL cards. And QSL cards, in order to be valid, require the RS/T > > report. > > > > Joe, K3CHP > > Frederica, DE > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:03:12 -0500 From: "KB0VCC" To: "Garey Barrell" Cc: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162911] Re: Thanks! Message-ID: <001c01c3c0c1$10ade9c0$6601a8c0@HPNotebook> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > The Globe Scout is cathode keyed like most transmitters of > that era. Oops, my mistake. You are quite correct. Hey Garey, since you seem to be boatanchor savvy, maybe you can help me with another question. I need to find more FT-243 crystals for that rig. I've found places on-line who will custom grind but they're asking for parameters such as the equivalent series resistance, series load, parallel shunt capacitance, drive level, etc. The manual I have for the rig doesn't mention these parameters for the crystals used. Do you have any idea what the crystal specs must be for the rig to operate correctly? Thanks es 72/73, Dale ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:15:46 -0500 From: Bruce Muscolino To: w9ya@arrl.net Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162912] Re: Covenent question? Message-ID: <3FD9DBA2.3CFE7CF3@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit As long as you remember that exclusive of local government restrictions, THE DEVELOPER MAKES ALL THE RULES WHERE C. C. 7 RS ARE CONCERNED. This means do not buy into any deal promised by an agent. You must get a signed contract from the developer if it is a new property, or the homeowners association if it is not. True, most people could not care less about C. C. 7 R's, but park an old pick up in your lawn, or put up a tower and beam, and they will care! 73 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:22:15 -0500 From: "Brad Hedges" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162913] O-scopes (again!) Message-ID: <004f01c3c0c3$b9457b00$19c63942@nc.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All, Not to belabor the point, and perhaps someone can just point me "the way" - I'm not looking so much for actual model recommendations, but just what should I look for in an oscilloscope? Just what does the Bandwidth figure mean? The actual width of the signal? I mean, a CW sig is only a couple KHz or so... why the 100-200 +++ BW figures? Or am I all screwed up and hopeless here? My dad (SK) was an electronic tech all his life and had an OLD o-scope, which is long gone, now, I'm afraid, and I've been following the threads here lately and gotten some good info, but I'd like a late model (Tektronix has a new TDS1002 for $995) for various reasons. So... Is there a good reason to go to 4 inputs, vs 2, for "normal" ham work? same for color vs monochrome screens? 60 vs 100 vs 200 MHz Bandwidth? Any other major factors to look for? Thanks & 73, K0BHC Brad Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:21:27 -0500 From: Michael Neverdosky To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162914] Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST Message-ID: <3FD9DCF7.BBE3A00D@earthlink.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey, we all know that the RST in any contest is ALWAYS 599. michael N6CHV "Richard Brummer, K2JQ" wrote: > > What do we do with established contests such as Field Day or Novemeber > Sweepstakes, where RST is not part of the exchange ? > > Are QSL's from contacts in these contests invalid for award consideration ? > > Seems to me that this topic has surfaced before, but I have forgotten the > result. > > Dick K2JQ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joseph Mikuckis" > To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 7:27 AM > Subject: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST > > > There is one problem. Some of us who are working for various awards > > need QSL cards. And QSL cards, in order to be valid, require the RS/T > > report. > > > > Joe, K3CHP > > Frederica, DE > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:33:30 -0500 From: "Thomas Lewis" To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [162915] VE3DNL Marker Generator Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed I took advantage of the recent offering of this kit posted here. I have a need to calibrate some receiver dials (SW+30 & Sidekick) and I needed a project. The kit manual states that the unit can be used as a crystal calibrator. I know absolutely nothing about the subject. However, assuming I will have a need for a crystal calibrator in the future I suspect I do not want to solder the crystal to the board but rather install it in machined pins (like I did on one of my Rock Mites). Is my suspicion correct? Also, if above is correct, when I use the unit as a crystal calibrator do I need to ground the case of the crystal being tested? I realize this is an old subject for many of you. Thanks in advance. Tom K4THL _________________________________________________________________ Don t worry if your Inbox will max out while you are enjoying the holidays. Get MSN Extra Storage! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:36:07 -0500 From: w9ya To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162916] Re: Covenent question? Message-ID: <200312121036.07421.w9ya@arrl.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Actually we agree....i.e. nothing I said would suggest otherwise would it ? In fact I used the word developer and never the word agent. Do you have me confused with someone else perhaps ? Bob w9ya On Friday 12 December 2003 10:15 am, you wrote: > As long as you remember that exclusive of local government restrictions, > THE DEVELOPER MAKES ALL THE RULES WHERE C. C. 7 RS ARE CONCERNED. This > means do not buy into any deal promised by an agent. You must get a > signed contract from the developer if it is a new property, or the > homeowners association if it is not. > > True, most people could not care less about C. C. 7 R's, but park an old > pick up in your lawn, or put up a tower and beam, and they will care! > > 73 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:38:58 -0500 From: w9ya To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162917] Re: [OT] 73 Magazine archives on-line Message-ID: <200312121038.58580.w9ya@arrl.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 12 December 2003 09:49 am, Bruce Muscolino wrote: > Remember, the CDs cost $40 per 5 or 10 years. The yearly CDs aren't > much cheaper either! > > For me, my first choice is the original magazines. Second choice is the > CDs. The CDs are difficult to read on a computer screen because the > screen is not often formatted for the page and you have to continually > push the change page button. And what do you do when the story is > continued on another page! > > But those things aside, I would rather see the CDs produced as stand > alone volumes of 5 or 10 years sold for $0.00. That way I would always > have them. > > 73 I got a private email back saying that "they " (hamcall) had no plans for a cd at this time. Perhaps that will change ? Bob w9ya ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:46:31 -0500 From: w9ya To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162918] Re: Covenent question? Message-ID: <200312121046.31581.w9ya@arrl.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hey Tom and the gang; What you wrote seems depressing, and one sided. Tom, you didn't really intend to say that there is nothing one can do about restrictions, and that it does no good to ask to have them removed ? And that developers, as a rule, consider these and have determined that homeowners prefer them as such ? I seriously doubt the above in many cases applies. It just plain seems like it assumes too much. (But then again I am not a lawyer, but since I successfully negotiated changes to my covenants, can't others do so too with their developers ?) You seem like you are in "advocate" mode. That's fine, but from personal experience almost anything can be negotiated, especially covenants during the phase the developer is active. In many cases the developer is just doing what his lawyer or wife or brother-in-law suggested and is wiling to change things if approached correctly. Many states and counties (etc) have ways to amend such covenants. I am not so sure you aren't placing covenants in the same category as zoning laws and other artifices designed for whole cities and county size areas. Even these can and are often changed. Anyways, I would like to leave this by saying we can choose to disagree with this and still agree on other things. Vy 72; Bob w9ya On Friday 12 December 2003 09:10 am, Tom Palmer wrote: > Re: Private Restrictive Covenants. > > Always inform the agent exactly what you want to do > and discuss how the restrictive covenants prohibit or > restrict your desires. > > Most restrictive covenants provisions apply equally > to developers. If purchasers cannot install antennas, > it's probable that neither can the developer. > > Vary few restrictive covenants authorize the developer > to grant individual case exceptions to generally > applicable restrictions. Most developers do not > want to have any authority to grant exceptions. > > Few developers will even consider eliminating or amending > restrictions. Restrictive covenants are carefully > considered > before they are adopted. Potential loss of prospetive > purchasers is always considered before enactment of > restrictive covenants. > > Federal Law and the law of most states akkow private > restrictive > covenants that absolutely prohibit all out of doors ham > radio antennas. > FCC Rule PRB-1 mandates that states and local governments > (municipalities and counties) shall not enact laws, > ordinances, rules > or regu;ations that prohibit ham radio antennas, but PRB-1 > does NOT > apply to private restrictive covenants with regard to out of > doors > ham radio antennas. > > These issues are well settled in law. Do not expect that > laws are going to > be amended to diminish these rights of developers. Do not > expect that > judicial decisions are going to diminish these rights of > developers. > > Tom, N1TP - Attorney at Law in Washington, D.C., Missouri > and Florida. > Naples, Florida ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:49:51 -0700 From: "John_Evans" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162919] Re: Covenent question? Message-ID: <200312120849.AA53936552@mail.codenet.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii actually, if you can prove selective enforcement of covenants, you can fight and win the right to put up a tower/antenna. If the Homeowners Association does not enforce your neighbor who has a different color door that was not approved by the HA, and then they come after you for an antenna, you can fight and win. 72 - john - n0hj ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: w9ya > but park an old >> pick up in your lawn, or put up a tower and beam, and they will care! >> >> 73 > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:51:37 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) From: "Mike WA8BXN" To: , Subject: [162920] Re: O-scopes (again!) Message-ID: <3FD9E409.000001.01880@etower> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The bandwidth of a scope refers to its cut off frequency on the high side. Above that frequency the scope loses sensitivity greatly, much like a low pass filter. One input is probably enough for most ham use, two inputs could be useful to look at both the input and output of a stage to judge distortion perhaps, more than two inputs are most used for digital applications. 72/73 - Mike WA8BXN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:56:18 -0600 (CST) From: Dale Botkin To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162921] Re: Covenent question? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Your best bet is to READ the covenants, carefully, before doing anything else. The whole thing, from front to back, twice. If you can't be sure you understand them completely, have someone who can (like a lawyer) read them. Every document is different. In my case, it says quite clearly that no outside antennas or satellite dishes are allowed, along with a long list of other stuff (most of it pretty reasonable). It also says the HOA board is allowed to approve pretty much anything, at their discretion, after being presented with complete plans, etc. It also says the whole thing can go away if the board and HOA is voted out of existence by 75% of the homeowners. I have heard of far different restrictions, so my CC&R document means nothing in your case. Find out what you need to do to get an exception, variance or whatever. Maybe the developer can do it, maybe not, depends on the document. Good luck, and let us know what happens. 73, Dale - N0XAS -- It's a thankless job, but I've got a lot of Karma to burn off. PicoKeyer Analog with pot speed control now available! Or add memory and more to your Rock-Mite -- http://www.hamgadgets.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:58:38 -0700 From: "KXBill" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162922] Re: 80m Message-ID: <022201c3c0c8$ce3e7de0$76d70344@ph.cox.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Most happy to do some "propagation experimentation" with you Al. You name the place and I'll be there. I have noticed that most of the QRP work is conducted in the lower portion of the 40 and 80m bands. If we are looking for DX contacts, this makes sense. During other contests', the lower segment of these two bands becomes quite congested and if I wish to operate, I will qsy up to 7100 and/or 3700 +/-, which are relatively clear. The low end of 80 is also bad for local TV and PC-monitor interference. You name the frequency and if I am having qrm problems, we can always move. Cheers and Happy Holidays BillH_w7kxb_ ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 06:51 Subject: 80m > Persuant to the 80m Fox proposal, is anyone west of the Rockies interested in doing some propagation experimenting with me during the 0200-0400Z timeframe? > > Even if there are no hunts on 80, it could certainly be a good learning exercise. > > 72 - Al, K2ZN > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 07:58:26 -0800 (PST) From: Lloyd Lachow To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162923] Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST Message-ID: <20031212155826.77852.qmail@web41007.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Michael Neverdosky wrote: > Hey, we all know that the RST in any contest is > ALWAYS 599. > > ...except in QRP contests...then they're all 559. LL __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New Yahoo! Photos - easier uploading and sharing. http://photos.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:06:01 -0600 From: "wv0q" To: Subject: [162924] Part assistance - VE3DNL Marker Generator - Mighty box Message-ID: <001c01c3c0c9$d6389de0$0f01a8c0@RPIKS.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello, I have built the VE3DNL Marker Generator and would like to use the Mighty box enclosure: http://www.americanmorse.com/mitybox.htm I am trying to locate a small switch that would allow me to change the settings on the Marker Generator. It would have to be similar in size to the part (which is a pot) to use the pre drilled hole. Mouser 31JN601 http://www.mouser.com/index.cfm?handler=3Ddisplayproduct&lstdispproductid= =3D 329762&e_categoryid=3D31&e_pcodeid=3D03109 Does anyone have any suggestions or know of one similar that I could acquire or can point me in the right direction. I have found rotary switches on mouser but they are WAY to big.. Maybe I am just out of luck and need to consider another enclosure. Tnx very much 73 Jacq NE=D8O ex wv0q =20 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:13:01 -0500 From: "John J. McDonough" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Cc: Subject: [162925] Re: O-scopes (again!) Message-ID: <013e01c3c0ca$d154d3b0$090044c0@BrianBoru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The bandwidth represents the highest frequency that the scope can actually reproduce. This should be at least twice, and preferably about 10 times, the highest frequency you intend to use the scope at. Besides the scope, you also need probes, and they have a bandwidth as well. Perhaps worse, they have capacitance which loads your circuit. The reason that the bandwidth needs to be so high is our old buddy Fourier. If you imagine a 14 MHz square wave, a scope which can reproduce, say, 20 MHz AND NO MORE will show that square wave as a sine wave. Now real scopes aren't that bad. Instead of dropping off sharply, the response rolls off above the "bandwidth", so a real 20 MHz scope will show that 14 MHz square wave as a somewhat squashed sine wave, perhaps with shoulders. Generally, you use a scope instead of a counter because you want to see what the waveform looks like. A waveform other than a sine wave will have harmonic energy, so to reproduce that waveform, the scope needs to respond to those harmonics. Thus, the higher the bandwidth of the scope, the more faithfully it will reproduce the waveform. There's a fairly steep price increase as you get above 100 or 200 MHz, so most hams tend to have scopes in the 100 MHz neighborhood. You can get 10 MHz scopes pretty cheap, but they are useless for much above audio. Hope this helps 72/73 de WB8RCR http://www.qsl.net/wb8rcr didileydadidah QRP-L #1446 Code Warriors #35 ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brad Hedges" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 10:22 AM Subject: O-scopes (again!) > All, > > Not to belabor the point, and perhaps someone can just point me "the way" - > I'm not looking so much for actual model recommendations, but just what > should I look for in an oscilloscope? Just what does the Bandwidth figure > mean? The actual width of the signal? I mean, a CW sig is only a couple KHz > or so... why the 100-200 +++ BW figures? Or am I all screwed up and hopeless > here? > > My dad (SK) was an electronic tech all his life and had an OLD o-scope, > which is long gone, now, I'm afraid, and I've been following the threads > here lately and gotten some good info, but I'd like a late model (Tektronix > has a new TDS1002 for $995) for various reasons. So... > > Is there a good reason to go to 4 inputs, vs 2, for "normal" ham work? > same for color vs monochrome screens? > 60 vs 100 vs 200 MHz Bandwidth? > > Any other major factors to look for? > > Thanks & 73, > > K0BHC > Brad Hedges > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:14:09 -0800 From: "Nick Kennedy" To: , "'Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion'" Subject: [162926] RE: [qrp-l] Modern keyers w/boatanchors... Message-ID: <002901c3c0db$bd055540$0400000a@wa5bdu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I did a simple 'cathode keyer' circuit using power MOSFETS. I used two of them to key my transmitter (HT-40, DX-35) and VFO (VF-1) simultaneously. You can see a text description and schematic on my page http://www.cox-internet.com/wa5bdu/ scroll down a little until you see in red the discussion of "cathode keyer" and click the links. 72--Nick, WA5BDU -----Original Message----- From: owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU [mailto:owner-qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU] On Behalf Of KB0VCC Hey gang. I was wondering... I've got a couple of boatanchors that I've mostly been using the straight key with, but occasionally would like to use my keyers with. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:22:27 -0500 (EST) From: Thom LaCosta To: w9ya Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162927] Re: [OT] 73 Magazine archives on-line Message-ID: <20031212112124.M11944-100000@unix1.vhost.min.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, w9ya wrote: > > I got a private email back saying that "they " (hamcall) had no plans for a cd > at this time. Could be they realize how many copies of the purchased CD will be made that don't result in income for them. Thom baltimoremd@baltimoremd.com Thom LaCosta K3HRN Webmaster http://www.baltimoremd.com/ Baltimore's Home Page http://www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon http://www.zerobeat.net Home of The QRP Web Ring and DrakeList http://www.tlchost.net Web Hosting as low as $3.49/month ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 09:45:27 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: KXBill Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162928] Re: 80m Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, KXBill wrote: > Most happy to do some "propagation experimentation" with you Al. You name > the place and I'll be there. I have been on QRP at about 3.560 starting about 0300 UTC calling CQ. I have not got an answer yet. Yesterday was bad conditions I think all over. Will keep doing this for awhile. > I have noticed that most of the QRP work is conducted in the lower > portion of the 40 and 80m bands. If we are looking for DX contacts, this > makes sense. During other contests', the lower segment of these two bands > becomes quite congested and if I wish to operate, I will qsy up to 7100 > and/or 3700 +/-, which are relatively clear. The low end of 80 is also bad > for local TV and PC-monitor interference. > You name the frequency and if I am having qrm problems, we can always > move. > Cheers and Happy Holidays > BillH_w7kxb_ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: > To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 06:51 > Subject: 80m > > > > Persuant to the 80m Fox proposal, is anyone west of the Rockies interested > in doing some propagation experimenting with me during the 0200-0400Z > timeframe? > > > > Even if there are no hunts on 80, it could certainly be a good learning > exercise. > > > > 72 - Al, K2ZN > > > > > > > > > > -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 08:43:20 -0800 From: "DTX" To: Subject: [162929] Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST Message-ID: <067e01c3c0cf$0d69b2e0$0c00a8c0@home> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Actually there are two RST values in contests, Michael. 5NN and CQ TEST CQ TEST Gary WA6DTX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Neverdosky" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 7:21 AM Subject: Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST > Hey, we all know that the RST in any contest is ALWAYS 599. > > michael N6CHV > > "Richard Brummer, K2JQ" wrote: > > > > What do we do with established contests such as Field Day or Novemeber > > Sweepstakes, where RST is not part of the exchange ? > > > > Are QSL's from contacts in these contests invalid for award consideration ? > > > > Seems to me that this topic has surfaced before, but I have forgotten the > > result. > > > > Dick K2JQ > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Joseph Mikuckis" > > To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" > > Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 7:27 AM > > Subject: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST > > > > > There is one problem. Some of us who are working for various awards > > > need QSL cards. And QSL cards, in order to be valid, require the RS/T > > > report. > > > > > > Joe, K3CHP > > > Frederica, DE > > > > > > > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:44:37 EST From: Stevenu7t@aol.com To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162930] Re: 80m 0200-0400 Message-ID: <159.29a34c3c.2d0b4a75@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Ed and Al, OK 0200 to 0400z on 80m. I am not available on Saturday night. What other night works for you. Today, Friday, is code practise 0330 to 0430. SSB or CW ?? Sunset is 0230z in Reno. We could use the eqsl sked chat room. Steve, NU7T ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:06:51 -0500 From: Brad Thompson To: bhedges@nc.rr.com, "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162931] Re: O-scopes (again!) Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20031212113405.0251a420@pop3.norton.antivirus> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Hello-- For general bench applications, an analog oscilloscope with two inputs will do the job. The bandwidth spec refers to the frequency at which a waveform depicted on the scope's screen is -3dB (or 0.707 times) reduced from the actual amplitude of the applied signal. When you look at a CW signal, you need to view the carrier frequency (say, 3.5 MHz) and not the modulation bandwidth. Thus, if you connect a constant-amplitude signal generator to a 100 MHz scope, apply a 100-kHz signal and adjust the amplitude for a trace deflection of ten divisions, at 100 MHz the waveform will measure 7.07 divisions and not 10 divisions high. As the scope's frequency response rolls off, it does so (or should do so!) smoothly-- otherwise, waveform distortion can occur. This becomes important when you're looking at a complex signal such as a pulse and not a pure sine wave How much bandwidth does one need? In general, the more the better (with exceptions!). If you've studied calculus or basic electrical engineering, you've no doubt been exposed to one of Fourier's theories, in which he proved that one can synthesize a complex wave (for example, a square wave) by superimposing various combinations of sine waves whose frequencies are odd or even multiples of a fundamental sine wave. Specifying scope bandwidth really asks the question in reverse: "If I have a perfect square wave which has very fast-rising and fast-falling edges, how much bandwidth do I need to show a perfect-looking square wave on the scope's screen?" Well, a 100 MHz scope will display a 10 MHz square wave with reasonable fidelity, but a 50 MHz square wave will look like a trapezoid because the scope's rise time and fall time responses dominate the waveform's rise and fall times. That said, if you're using a 100 MHz scope to follow a 100-MHz sine wave through a chain of amplifiers, you'll still be able to see amplitude differences between each stage's input and output (assuming that the stages' input and output impedances are equal and that probe loading isn't killing the signal). The voltage you see on screen won't necessarily be the actual voltage-- for that, you need an RF voltmeter. Why not buy a 1 GHz analog scope instead of a 100 MHz scope? The faster scope will be more expensive, it'll run hotter, and an average experimentally-inclined Radio Amateur will find it harder to maintain. Also, probes for faster scopes cost more, and as frequency increases, the probe becomes extremely important to good performance. You can buy a 1 GHz scope and waste its bandwidth if you attach a 100 MHz probe. Digital scopes sample a signal and then reconstruct the signal. Shannon's sampling theorem gets misquoted as "you need to sample a signal at twice its highest frequency to see the signal", but in reality you need to take at least five to ten or more samples per cycle to get a true depiction of the waveform. All scopes tend to lie to their users, but it's more obvious when an analog scope isn't telling the truth. Digital scopes often include math for processing signals and extracting spectral data, and also software for transferring signals to a personal computer for manipulation and storage. With analog scopes, you need to photograph the screen (use a digital camera). Inputs? You need two to compare input with output; more channels help out with simple digital-circuit troubleshooting, but for more than a couple of channels, you'll need a loguc analyzer. 73-- Brad AA1IP Two hats: Brad Thompson, Bookseller, and Contributing Technical Editor, Test & Measurement World magazine (visit www.tmworld.com to browse past issues, many of which include information on basic measurements and instruments) *************** At 10:22 AM 12/12/2003 -0500, Brad Hedges wrote: >All, > >Not to belabor the point, and perhaps someone can just point me "the way" - >I'm not looking so much for actual model recommendations, but just what >should I look for in an oscilloscope? Just what does the Bandwidth figure >mean? The actual width of the signal? I mean, a CW sig is only a couple KHz >or so... why the 100-200 +++ BW figures? Or am I all screwed up and hopeless >here? > >My dad (SK) was an electronic tech all his life and had an OLD o-scope, >which is long gone, now, I'm afraid, and I've been following the threads >here lately and gotten some good info, but I'd like a late model (Tektronix >has a new TDS1002 for $995) for various reasons. So... > >Is there a good reason to go to 4 inputs, vs 2, for "normal" ham work? >same for color vs monochrome screens? >60 vs 100 vs 200 MHz Bandwidth? > >Any other major factors to look for? > >Thanks & 73, > >K0BHC >Brad Hedges ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:13:55 -0500 From: "Richard Brummer, K2JQ" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162932] Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST Message-ID: <050001c3c0d3$5317b180$6401a8c0@mydomain.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit EXACTLY ! Besides, RST is really just an issue between the two people involved in the contact. Anything can be written; does anbody really care ? The point is that the contact was made, and the required exchange was passed both ways. Dick K2JQ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Neverdosky" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 10:21 AM Subject: Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST > Hey, we all know that the RST in any contest is ALWAYS 599. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:20:29 -0500 From: w9ya To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162933] Re: [OT] 73 Magazine archives on-line Message-ID: <200312121220.29226.w9ya@arrl.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 12 December 2003 11:22 am, Thom LaCosta wrote: > On Fri, 12 Dec 2003, w9ya wrote: > > I got a private email back saying that "they " (hamcall) had no plans for > > a cd at this time. > > Could be they realize how many copies of the purchased CD will be made > that don't result in income for them. Well, if EVERYONE made illegal copies then there would be no point to making them. Perhaps looking at the success the ARRL and others are having with this would suggest it is a profitable undertaking. Most people won't copy copyrighted material for sale to others if the material is available at reasonable prices. I will say this however; Hamcall has always overpriced their cds and others underprice them. They need to make sure of the old marketplace rules and adjust their price accordingly. I think they will find that many people will buy cds but not lifetime subscriptions to their service. Bob w9ya > > > Thom > > baltimoremd@baltimoremd.com Thom LaCosta K3HRN Webmaster > http://www.baltimoremd.com/ Baltimore's Home Page > http://www.baltimorehon.com/ Home of the Baltimore Lexicon > http://www.zerobeat.net Home of The QRP Web Ring and > DrakeList http://www.tlchost.net Web Hosting as low as > $3.49/month ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:15:38 -0500 From: "w8diz" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162934] Re: O-scopes (again!) Message-ID: <002501c3c0d3$91531700$b8cf1d41@cinci.rr.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I learned a long time ago that an Oscilloscope's BandWidth represents the frequency at which the scope's display is 3 dB down from it's calibrated screen value. In other words if at 1 MHz a 10V P-P input signal is displayed as 10 volts P-P but at 20 MHz a 10V P-P only displays as 7V P-P then the scope is considered having a bandwidth of 20 MHz. Anybody else learn this or did I make it up in my dreams when I was a kid yearning for a real Tektronix :) 72 & "oo's" - Dieter (DIZ) Gentzow - W8DIZ - Loveland, Ohio Clermont County - EM79uf - near Cincinnati; 39:13:05N 84:18:18W RIG:multiPIG+ ANT:67 FT Vertical Dipole http://kitsandparts.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:01:18 -0500 (EST) From: To: Subject: [162935] SDR1000? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Anyone built this radio? what are your impressions? How does it compare to other radios that you have used? 73, Jim n2go ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:14:34 -0500 From: w9ya To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162936] Re: O-scopes (again!) Message-ID: <200312121314.34877.w9ya@arrl.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline On Friday 12 December 2003 12:15 pm, w8diz wrote: > I learned a long time ago that an Oscilloscope's BandWidth > represents the frequency at which the scope's display is > 3 dB down from it's calibrated screen value. > > In other words if at 1 MHz a 10V P-P input signal is displayed > as 10 volts P-P but at 20 MHz a 10V P-P only displays as 7V P-P > then the scope is considered having a bandwidth of 20 MHz. > > Anybody else learn this or did I make it up in my dreams > when I was a kid yearning for a real Tektronix :) Hey Diz and the gang; Yep, that's standard stuff with scopes. 72; Bob w9ya > > 72 & "oo's" - Dieter (DIZ) Gentzow - W8DIZ - Loveland, Ohio > Clermont County - EM79uf - near Cincinnati; 39:13:05N 84:18:18W > RIG:multiPIG+ ANT:67 FT Vertical Dipole http://kitsandparts.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:19:44 -0600 From: "Jay Henson" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162937] Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST Message-ID: <003601c3c0dc$851415d0$10b24a0c@jay> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit All, A very interesting discussion. Although I have not reviewed ALL of the rules for ALL of the contests, the ARRL WAS and DXCC awards do not require an RST to be part of the confirmation data. Back into LURK mode. Jay AJ4AY Mobile, AL QRPL 1372, ARCI 8131, FISTS 7917, FP -115, SOC 220 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.551 / Virus Database: 343 - Release Date: 12/11/2003 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 10:21:33 -0800 From: "Lyle Johnson" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162938] RE: SDR1000? Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Anyone built this radio? what are your impressions? How does it compare > to other radios that you have used? I have one. It is not one you build in the traditional sense, but neither is it a complete product. It has some interesting development occurring, and has a lot of potential. But if you are looking for a "wow!" out of the box experience, this may not be the radio for you. If you are into developing/writing software for this sort of thing, and want to be an early adopter of a promising approach, then you might want to consider it. There is a lot of learning going on with this product. I lent my unit to another ham who was thinking of buying one, and he decided to wait until the next generation comes out... If you have specific questions, I may be able to answer (some of) them. You should also go to the website (www.flex-radio.com) and look over all the messages in the forum. 72, Lyle KK7P ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:29:10 -0500 (EST) From: "n2cx" To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162939] Re: [OT] 73 Magazine archives on-line Message-ID: <200312121829.hBCITA6g020294@email2.voicenet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Gang, Thanks for pointing out this link! I wrote some articles for the mag back in the 70's but never kept copies. I was able to download them last evening (the articles, that is). That's fortunate since today you can see thumbnails of each page but when you try to download anything past page 6 of any issue, you get a notice that the higher page numbers are not available in the demo version! 72/73, Joe E., N2CX ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:27:43 -0700 From: w5xe@juno.com To: KB0VCC@Adelphia.Net, qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162940] Re: Thanks! Message-ID: <20031212.113558.-139713.0.w5xe@juno.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The normal capacitance is 32 pf, however I recently ordered some crystals from Jan Crystals - they no longer produce FT243, but can do the HC6 with the large pins or the smaller hc49 that will fit inside a FT241 or FT243 case. Those 242's and 243's are really out there in abundance for oddball frequencies - usually old surplus types that were used for early vhf stuff. Also, if you have club auctions, swaplists on the local 2m repeater (many areas do) or check the various for sale sites like QTH.com, Eham.net, QRZ.com swapmeet, or the local hamfests, some will turn up, reasonably. The last auction I was at, I ended up with a few in a box that cost me a total of 50 cents. Plus I was able to swap an undesired crystal for one more to my liking. Something you might also look for is a Heathkit VF-1 vfo for your Globe Scout. I got one at the same auction for 5 dollars. Lots of glowbug opportunities out there. 73 Ray "An honest politician is one who, when he is bought, stays bought." - Simon Cameron Ray Colbert, W5XE, OOTC#3618, SOWP#1064M,GQRP-6115 ARCI-5784 NCT2R FP-111 El Paso,(FAR WEST) TEXAS ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:40:33 +0000 From: "Brad Hernlem" To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162941] Re: O-scopes (again!) Message-ID: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed w8diz (w8diz_qrpl@partsandkits.com) wrote: >I learned a long time ago that an Oscilloscope's BandWidth >represents the frequency at which the scope's display is >3 dB down from it's calibrated screen value. Another point worth knowing is that although a scope can show signals substantially faster than the rated bandwidth (at reduced amplitude), the timebase eventually ceases to trigger when the signal exceeds its maximum trigger rate. You still may be able to compare signal levels, though, even though the trace will become a blur. Brad KG6IOE _________________________________________________________________ Our best dial-up offer is back. Get MSN Dial-up Internet Service for 6 months @ $9.95/month now! http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 11:00:00 -0800 (PST) From: Garie Halstead K8KFJ To: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162942] Re: 80 or 40 FOX on Thursday Message-ID: <20031212190001.7162.qmail@web60306.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii --- Chuck Carpenter wrote: > Listening around on 80 recently, sounds like 80 might > be a lot of fun around 3560. No BC stations and doesn't > seem to be as noisy as 40 just now. There are 2 traffic nets listed for 3560 from a very old ARRL Net Directory of mine. I'm assuming the info is still valid. 7th Region Net, Cycle 4 0330z and 0530z Iowa Tall Corn Net 0030z and 0400z Neither of these 2 nets would conflict with a proposed 80m hunt given it's time frame but you might want to keep these nets in mind in scheduling your experimental 3560 QSOs testing current propagation and conditions. Some including myself, WA8BXN, and others have asked for more 80m participation in the latter part of the Spartan Sprints finding the band quite productive. I for one is looking forward to seeing renewed activity there in the evenings. 72, Gary -K8KFJ- West Virginia ARCI #10728, ARS #1610, FP #702, MIQRP M-1720, FISTS 1732, ARRL __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:16:49 -0500 From: "Mike Yetsko" To: , "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162943] Re: Covenent question? Message-ID: <010301c3c0e4$b1b03ee0$0200a8c0@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > actually, if you can prove selective enforcement of covenants, you can fight and win the right to put up a tower/antenna. If the Homeowners Association does not enforce your neighbor who has a different color door that was not approved by the HA, and then they come after you for an antenna, you can fight and win. > > 72 - john - n0hj Probably not at all. Usually the covenants have a clause that limits applicability of one part to others. But, if you can show non-enforcement of 'like', then you might have a case. If a neighbor puts up a CB antenna, or a TV, if they are prohibited in the same clause. Notice I said 'have a case'. You will be fighting it, and it will cost. And your chances of getting legal fees will be as close to zero as 1 over that new prime number that was just discovered... Mike ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 20:48:20 +0100 From: WJuergens@t-online.de (Wolf-Ruediger Juergens) To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162944] Re: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST Message-ID: <049301c3c0e8$e54f7000$0100a8c0@homepc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Oleg V. Borodin wrote: > I offer at QRP-QSOs to interchange WW-Locators alongside with RST. Hi Oleg, At which QRG you are to find? I would be glad exchange the ww-loc with you ;-) Since some weeks I tried to participate in the ru-qrp net at sunday morning on 40m, 30m and 20m but no luck so far. Maybe it is a problem of the actual conds. 72 de Wolf, DL2WRJ -- http://www.dl2wrj.de ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:03:48 -0600 From: "Jerry Ford" To: "qrp-l" , "FPigs" Subject: [162945] Re: [fpqrp] Re: End of the WAP contest Message-ID: <001f01c3c0da$4b5e9880$4a78da0c@mchsi.com> Thanks Diz: This is perfect for me to use as a reminder that everyone PLEASE get on this coming Sunday evening and work the " RUN FOR THE BACON " sprint. 0100z to 0300z Sunday evening folks. The more participation we get from members and non-members, the more fun this event will be for everyone. So, all you piggies get in there and give some of these folks a shot at your piggie number. There is a quite a bit of distance between 2nd and 3rd place right now but it sure isn't anything that can't be overcome in a sprint setting. As for who will win the WAP?? My money is on PHIL Go PHIL, tear em up oo Jerry N0JRN ----- Original Message ----- From: "w8diz" To: Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 1:06 PM Subject: [fpqrp] Re: End of the WAP contest > Hi All, > > The wap contest will be over in about 19 days. > here are the top 10 contenders: > > Rank Qs Participant > 1 134 N0JRN > 2 131 K3ESE > 3 57 W8DIZ > 4 56 K4FB > 5 55 AF4PS > 6 52 KG4FSN > 7 36 KB9BVN > 8 36 N7MFB > 9 35 WB8ABE > 10 34 AC5JH > > I am disqualifying myself. > I do NOT want to win one of my own prizes :) > > http://65.29.207.184:3737/pigs/wapshort.asp > > > Next year, get ready for the WASP contest. > > "Worked All States via Piggies" > > 72 & "oo's" - Dieter (DIZ) Gentzow - W8DIZ - Loveland, Ohio > Clermont County - EM79uf - near Cincinnati; 39:13:05N 84:18:18W > RIG:multiPIG+ ANT:67 FT Vertical Dipole http://kitsandparts.com > > > > > -To unsubscribe, mail to majordomo@fpqrp.com, msg: unsubscribe fpqrp-l - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 12:29:56 -0800 From: "Doug Hendricks" To: Subject: [162946] Kits from Clubs for Christmas Message-ID: <001701c3c0ee$b51668c0$4a0b0d0a@dph.dpol.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Guys, there are several great club kits out there right now, and any or all of them would make a great Christmas Present. Here we go: 4 States QRP Group has the Tenna Dipper, a great little resonant frequency indicator. Full details and the manual are online at the amqrp website at www.amqrp.org Click on the kits button. Maine QRP Group has the Tuna Tin 2 available once again. This is a great little kit, and you can get ordering details from Rex Harper of the Maine QRP Group at w1rex@megalink.net Send him an email with TT2 order in the subject line and he will get right back to you. The NJ QRP Club has these great kits available and full details and ordering instructions are available at: www.amqrp.org Micro908 - a re-usable control & computing platform for antenna measurement, PSK31 digital modems, signal source & VFO, audio filters, and more. DDS Daughtercard - a precison dc-30 MHz DDS VFO-on-a-card with 101 uses. QuickieLab - a BASIC computing platform for experiments in ham radio I/O Extender (IOX) - serial LCD, freq cntr, and driver for A/D, keypad, dig pot Serial CW Sender - interface Palm PDA to HF rig with integral keyer Precision VXO - for crystal measurement and sorting, and signal source HC908 Daughtercard - small computing module with lots of I/O, flash mem, ... "Badger" SmartBadge - a Morse-sounding smartbadge identifier SOP Receiver - a direct conversion receiver for 40 & 80 meters Islander Pad Cutter - diamond-tipped end mill for cutting pads in pc boards Tip Tapper Iambic Paddle - credit card sized paddle for sending Morse code PSK31 Audio Beacon Kit - PSK31-encoded audio beacon feeds SSB rig Halfer Antenna - minimalist end-fed half-wave antenna for 30 or 40 meters PSK-80 Warbler - a simple PSK31 transceiver for 80m Islander Audio Amp Kit - simple audio amp a la Manhattan The NorCal QRP Club has these great kits available and full details and ordering instructions are available at: www.amqrp.org NorCal Keyer -- Programmable memory with speed control pot & pc board NorCal & Zombie Shirts - Look sharp in these "NorCal gold" shirts BLT Tuner - a simple Z-Match antenna tuner for QRP use on 10m-40m VE3DNL Marker Generator - The great little "1st kit to build". > > If you would like to order a the VE3DNL kit, it is simple: You may order by regular > > mail by sending a check for $12 made out to Jim Cates plus a note saying > > that you are ordering the VE3DNL Marker Generator kit. Please enclose a > > self addressed mailing label, it really helps Jim a lot. Send to: > > > > Jim Cates > > ATTN: VE3DNL Kit > > 3241 Eastwood Rd. > > Sacramento, CA 95821 > > > > or, you may order by Paypal. George Heron, our webmeister, is out of the > > country at this time, so you will not find an ordering button on the amqrp > > website. But you may still use paypal. Send your payment of $12 to > > amqrp@earthlink.net and be sure that you indicate that you are ordering a > > VE3DNL kit. That's all there is to it. Also available as a club kit, but probably not in time for Christmas is the Az. ScQRPions Paddle kit. Full details on this on is also available at the amqrp.org website. Lots of choices out there guys, and I encourage you to check out these great club kit offerings. 72, Doug ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 16:20:01 -0500 From: tk To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162947] OT Compaq Internet Appliance Message-ID: <3FDB8281.2060304@ispwest.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A friend gave me a working Compaq Internet Appliance (dedicated EMAIL system). It has no hard drive or diskette. It runs MS CE for an OS. Its small footprint would make it ideal for a dedicated PSK machine. Has a 56K modem and USB ports and a wireless keyboard AMD K6 266mhz processor.. Would appreciate any info or leads on hacking this gadget.... Ted in Atlanta KD4EE ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 13:40:45 -0600 From: "Jerry Ford" To: "qrp-l" Subject: [162948] Re: Kits from Clubs for Christmas Message-ID: <001301c3c0e7$d690d460$4a78da0c@mchsi.com> Hey Doug: You forgot one !! The Multipig Plus from W8DIZ of the Flying Pigs QRP Club International. http://www.partsandkits.com One heck of a cool rig as well as other kits and stuff. And no I'm not associated with W8DIZ. I'm just a very happy camper. 73 Jerry N0JRN ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Hendricks" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 2:29 PM Subject: Kits from Clubs for Christmas > Guys, there are several great club kits out there right now, and any or all > of them would make a great Christmas Present. > > Here we go: > > 4 States QRP Group has the Tenna Dipper, a great little resonant frequency > indicator. Full details and the manual are online at the amqrp website at > www.amqrp.org Click on the kits button. > > Maine QRP Group has the Tuna Tin 2 available once again. This is a great > little kit, and you can get ordering details from Rex Harper of the Maine > QRP Group at > w1rex@megalink.net Send him an email with TT2 order in the subject line and > he will get right back to you. > > The NJ QRP Club has these great kits available and full details and ordering > instructions are available at: www.amqrp.org > Micro908 - a re-usable control & computing platform for antenna measurement, > PSK31 digital modems, signal source & VFO, audio filters, and more. > DDS Daughtercard - a precison dc-30 MHz DDS VFO-on-a-card with 101 uses. > QuickieLab - a BASIC computing platform for experiments in ham radio > I/O Extender (IOX) - serial LCD, freq cntr, and driver for A/D, keypad, dig > pot > Serial CW Sender - interface Palm PDA to HF rig with integral keyer > Precision VXO - for crystal measurement and sorting, and signal source > HC908 Daughtercard - small computing module with lots of I/O, flash mem, ... > "Badger" SmartBadge - a Morse-sounding smartbadge identifier > SOP Receiver - a direct conversion receiver for 40 & 80 meters > Islander Pad Cutter - diamond-tipped end mill for cutting pads in pc boards > Tip Tapper Iambic Paddle - credit card sized paddle for sending Morse code > PSK31 Audio Beacon Kit - PSK31-encoded audio beacon feeds SSB rig > Halfer Antenna - minimalist end-fed half-wave antenna for 30 or 40 meters > PSK-80 Warbler - a simple PSK31 transceiver for 80m > Islander Audio Amp Kit - simple audio amp a la Manhattan > > The NorCal QRP Club has these great kits available and full details and > ordering instructions are available at: www.amqrp.org > NorCal Keyer -- Programmable memory with speed control pot & pc board > NorCal & Zombie Shirts - Look sharp in these "NorCal gold" shirts > BLT Tuner - a simple Z-Match antenna tuner for QRP use on 10m-40m > VE3DNL Marker Generator - The great little "1st kit to build". > > > If you would like to order a the VE3DNL kit, it is simple: You may > order by regular > > > mail by sending a check for $12 made out to Jim Cates plus a note saying > > > that you are ordering the VE3DNL Marker Generator kit. Please enclose a > > > self addressed mailing label, it really helps Jim a lot. Send to: > > > > > > Jim Cates > > > ATTN: VE3DNL Kit > > > 3241 Eastwood Rd. > > > Sacramento, CA 95821 > > > > > > or, you may order by Paypal. George Heron, our webmeister, is out of > the > > > country at this time, so you will not find an ordering button on the > amqrp > > > website. But you may still use paypal. Send your payment of $12 to > > > amqrp@earthlink.net and be sure that you indicate that you are ordering > a > > > VE3DNL kit. That's all there is to it. > > Also available as a club kit, but probably not in time for Christmas is the > Az. ScQRPions Paddle kit. > Full details on this on is also available at the amqrp.org website. Lots of > choices out there guys, and I > encourage you to check out these great club kit offerings. 72, Doug > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:47:29 -0600 From: "Joe Martin" To: "QRP-l" Subject: [162949] Re: Kits from Clubs for Christmas Message-ID: <000501c3c0f9$8b0a17b0$ae8f77d8@JoesHome1> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit ----- Original Message ----- From: "Doug Hendricks" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 2:29 PM Subject: Kits from Clubs for Christmas > Guys, there are several great club kits out there right now, and any or all > of them would make a great Christmas Present. > > The NorCal QRP Club has these great kits available and full details and > ordering instructions are available at: www.amqrp.org > NorCal Keyer -- Programmable memory with speed control pot & pc board > Jim Cates >72, Doug I'll second Doug, better get those orders in now though. NorCal folks got my order last Sun, I got the NorCal Keyer kit in the mailbox this afternoon. Yehaaaa, time to fire up the iron and melt some solder. the keyer will work with my #63 ScQRPions Key and my ol TS 520 and RockMites. 72 de KM5CW Joe dit dit or is it e e ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 00:49:57 +0300 From: "Oleg V. Borodin" To: WJuergens@t-online.de (Wolf-Ruediger Juergens) Cc: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162950] Re[2]: Re Whoopee! A Contest without RST Message-ID: <1136362957.20031213004957@lipetsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Dear OM Wolf! Glad to see you! WRJ> At which QRG you are to find? WRJ> I would be glad exchange the ww-loc with you ;-) WRJ> Since some weeks I tried to participate in the ru-qrp net at sunday WRJ> morning on 40m, 30m and 20m but no luck so far. Maybe it is a problem of WRJ> the actual conds. WRJ> 72 de Wolf, DL2WRJ No, I think it's a problem with our activity ;-) Each Saturday at 10.00 UTC I have "CQ QRP-ing" at 14060 kHz. You can find me this Saturday there. I be glad to have 2xQRP QSO with you, dear Wolf, also with everybody QRPers. Wish you all the best! 72! de RV3GM Oleg ("Master-72") V. Borodin http://ruqrp.narod.ru === In QRP We Trust! === ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Dec 2003 01:11:16 +0300 From: "Oleg V. Borodin" To: "Doug Hendricks" Cc: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162951] Re: Kits from Clubs for Christmas Message-ID: <1367641941.20031213011116@lipetsk.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit DH> Guys, there are several great club kits out there right now, and any or all DH> of them would make a great Christmas Present. DH> 4 States QRP Group DH> Maine QRP Group DH> The NJ QRP Club DH> The NorCal QRP Club RU-QRP Club special Christmas offer: "Micro-80" micro-transceiver kit inside a wood casket with lacquer miniature painting of old Russian folklore fairy tales. Not only for you, but for your YL/XYL's also. http://ruqrp.narod.ru/index_e.html Wish you all the best! 72! de RV3GM Oleg ("Master-72") V. Borodin === In QRP We Trust! === ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 17:22:38 -0500 From: John Sielke To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162952] Re: Kits from Clubs for Christmas Message-ID: <3FDA3FAE.8010703@pobox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > One heck of a cool rig as well as other kits and stuff. And > no I'm not associated with > W8DIZ. I'm just a very happy camper. Aha! I have it on good authority that Jeryy DOES associate with Diz. It is even possible that they have had a beer or two together but nothing positive on this. Operatives are checking now. As for the MP+, here is a rig for those of you bored with the "stuff the PC board, put it in it's custom case, and go" type of kit. I made the first QSO with mine back on 26 Nov. Since then, I've had 93 QSOs with the MP+ (counting the CQ WW DX Test, in which I got 19 countries in less than 2 hours, and the Holiday Spirits HB Sprint). AND, It is still sitting on the desk with clipleads, etc. (Soon to go into HB custom cabinet). So if you are shocked and dismayed at having to clip a couple pins off an IC (the holes ARE there, tho....), or truly HATE winding toroids. (There are 73), forget it. If you like a challenge, and ending up with a rig that really has a FB receiver, and a "cool QRP kilowatt" transmitter, with digital readout and all for under $275, (and that includes an SWR/Power meter with bargraph LED readout!)go for it! John W2AGN ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:14:19 -0700 From: Larry East To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162953] PEP Mod for OHR WM-1/WM-2 Wattmeters Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20031212151318.00a57ec0@mail.ultrasw.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed A few years back I published a simple mod in the QRP Quarterly to allow OHR WM-1 Wattmeters to read "PEP". (The mod also works for the WM-2, but you'll have to figure out parts placement on your own -- or see page 19 of the Summer 2003 QRP Quarterly.) A copy of the (slightly revised) article is located on the ARCI web site: http://www.qrparci.org/east/MODS_WM1.html . 72/73, Larry, W1HUE/7 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 14:36:33 -0800 From: "Bill Linn" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Subject: [162954] Scratch Built/Thanks QRPLs Expertise Message-ID: <000201c3c100$65b000e0$7870ef42@wa7tqk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Recently I had a problem with a DC receiver VFO drifting erractically. Fast too! Was getting frustrated with changing stuff (and the board was wearing out too) I dropped "Melt Solder Steve" KD1JV, a note explaining in not too clear terms my experience and asked him for advice. Well, he came through with an effective way of locating "sensitive" (thermal) parts in the VFO. "Take a drinking straw and puff a bit of air on each component, while observing the frequency." In minutes I had located the flakey capacitor and replaced it. Now the receive is "Rock Solid", even stays on frequency over-night, off or on!) So, a public thank you to Steve and all the others with expertise who are willing to share and adivise us novice builders. Thanks guys, Bill W7WEL Take a look at my project: http://www.qsl.net\w7wel\ps2wcaption.jpg http://www.qsl.net\w7wel\ps2finished.jpg --- [SMGazette.com E-mail is scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] [Visit us on the web at SMGazette.com] ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:22:41 -0500 From: Bruce Muscolino To: w9ya@arrl.net Cc: Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion Subject: [162955] Re: Covenent question? Message-ID: <3FDA4DC1.50723570@erols.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit But agent and developer may be two different people. The developer is the person who owns the whole development. The agent is the person the developer hires to see individual plots. The agent usually has more limited authority to change deals. 73 w9ya wrote: > > Actually we agree....i.e. nothing I said would suggest otherwise would it ? In > fact I used the word developer and never the word agent. > > Do you have me confused with someone else perhaps ? > > Bob > w9ya > > On Friday 12 December 2003 10:15 am, you wrote: > > As long as you remember that exclusive of local government restrictions, > > THE DEVELOPER MAKES ALL THE RULES WHERE C. C. 7 RS ARE CONCERNED. This > > means do not buy into any deal promised by an agent. You must get a > > signed contract from the developer if it is a new property, or the > > homeowners association if it is not. > > > > True, most people could not care less about C. C. 7 R's, but park an old > > pick up in your lawn, or put up a tower and beam, and they will care! > > > > 73 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 15:41:50 -0600 From: "Jerry Ford" To: "qrp-l" Subject: [162956] Re: Kits from Clubs for Christmas Message-ID: <002e01c3c0f8$c0bdea40$4a78da0c@mchsi.com> John: Your blowing my cover LOL Good job on that pig rig man ! oo Jerry N0JRN ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Sielke" To: "Low Power Amateur Radio Discussion" Sent: Friday, December 12, 2003 4:22 PM Subject: Re: Kits from Clubs for Christmas > > One heck of a cool rig as well as other kits and stuff. And > > no I'm not associated with > > W8DIZ. I'm just a very happy camper. > > Aha! I have it on good authority that Jeryy DOES associate with Diz. It > is even possible that they have had a beer or two together but nothing > positive on this. Operatives are checking now. > > As for the MP+, here is a rig for those of you bored with the "stuff the > PC board, put it in it's custom case, and go" type of kit. I made the > first QSO with mine back on 26 Nov. Since then, I've had 93 QSOs with > the MP+ (counting the CQ WW DX Test, in which I got 19 countries in less > than 2 hours, and the Holiday Spirits HB Sprint). AND, It is still > sitting on the desk with clipleads, etc. (Soon to go into HB custom > cabinet). > > So if you are shocked and dismayed at having to clip a couple pins off > an IC (the holes ARE there, tho....), or truly HATE winding toroids. > (There are 73), forget it. If you like a challenge, and ending up with a > rig that really has a FB receiver, and a "cool QRP kilowatt" > transmitter, with digital readout and all for under $275, (and that > includes an SWR/Power meter with bargraph LED readout!)go for it! > > John W2AGN > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:33:55 EST From: ARDUJENSKI@aol.com To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162957] Single wire feed Windom? Message-ID: <6b.1e9aa5e4.2d0baa63@aol.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have found several articles regarding the twin feed Off center Fed Dipole (WINDOM) but very little regarding the original single wire feed. I have used Reg's WINDOM program to explore the optimal dimensions and found that with some tweaking you can get a fairly uniform feed impedance at the base of the vertical wire (300-400 ohms). In my case the top wire was 21m, the offset was 5m, and vertical wire 11m. This gave very good efficiency also on 40-10m and lobe patterns on EXNEC that avoided the deep nulls present with dipoles. I would like to hear from those who have used the original style WINDOM and their experiences. Thanks Alan KB7MBI in Woodinville, WA FISTS 5702 / ARS / Proud member of ARRL ___ ___ . . . . . . ___ ___ DIT DIT ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:34:51 -0700 From: "Marshall Emm" To: qRP-L@lehigh.edu Subject: [162958] CQC Lunch Tomorrow Message-ID: <3FD9EE2B.21896.137EE40@localhost> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-description: Mail message body Hi, Guys-- Just a quick reminder-- informal gathering of CQC brethren at Bennett's, 3700 Peoria St (just south of I-70 and Peoria) tomorrow at 12:30. Hope to see you there! 73 Marshall Emm N1FN/VK5FN n1fn@MorseX.com Morse Express and Oak Hills Research "Everything for the Morse Enthusiast" http://www.MorseX.com http://www.ohr.com (303)752-3382 -- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 16:39:22 -0700 (MST) From: Karl Larsen To: qrp-l@lehigh.edu Subject: [162959] Fox Hunt Questions Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Here are some questions that will help decide what changes might be made to the QRP-L Fox Hunts. If you have an opinion on these questions or have additional ideas, please add them to this message in a reply. 1. Would you volunteer to be a Fox on both 40 and 80 meters? 2. Which of these two alternatives do you prefer? A. Two Fox start out at 0200 UTC on 40 meters. At 0300 UTC they both move to 80 meters and end the Hunt there. B. Two Fox on both 40 and 80 meters for the first hour 0200 to 0300 UTC. Then all 4 Fox on 80 meters from 0300 to 0400 UTC. 3. What day of the week do you prefer for the hunts? If you care please let me know your choices with a reply message. -- - Karl Larsen k5di Las Cruces,NM Az ScQRPions - ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 18:55:29 -0500 From: "John P. Cummins, Sr." To: qrp-l@Lehigh.EDU Subject: [162960] Kits for Christmas Message-ID: <3FDA5571.1070201@charter.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit And don't forget the famous North Georgia QRP Club - NoGa Kits. 1. NoGaWaTT.. Dual meter power and SWR. Nothing like it for the price. 2. NoGaPiG.. Power/Indicator Guard. "Burn your Pig and not your Rig". Nothing else like it. 3. NoGa Guippy.. Semi QSK T/R switch (w/voltage keyer add-on). 4. NoGa Compendium Vol. 1 - Great QRP building articles. http://www.nogaqrp.org Pickett, AD4S ------------------------------ End of QRP-L Digest 3132 ************************ --------------------------------