Article: 323627 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 12:06:44 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Offshore pharmacies References: <1128625583.686533.23190@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1128631699.805706.129280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Terry wrote: > Randy? wrote. > >>my point is simply that honorable people are honorable people. being >>honorable isnt a factor of latitude and longitude. its flag comes in many >>colors not just red white and blue. and the whole 'problem' of bad drugs >>coming from overseas is way way way overblown. >> >> > > While this thread is maybe OT for this group, maybe we 'electronic > technicians' are of an age group where this subject is of interest/concern? > :-) > > In recent years there has been this furore, in the US, about 'Dangers of > imported drugs'. Also well publicized cases of state administrations looking > for alternate (cheaper) sources; followed by threats from some drug makers > to embargo or ration the shipment of those drugs manufactured in the US to > Canadian distributors, in attempts to stop or reduce the sale of them > privately back to US patients! I've lived off of the mainland for nearly 20 years now and have had plenty of occasions to need prescription medications. I've seen repeated examples where a brand name drug manufacturer sells locally for a fraction of the cost of the American-marketed version. I'm not talking 25% less cost, I'm talking something that might be sold for $50 in the USA may be $2.50 in Latin America. These aren't fake or generic drugs. As often as not they are manufactured in facilities owned by the very same drug manufacturing moguls and usually marketed under a name different than in the US. There's no doubt in my mind that its nothing more than a marketing ploy. In the US where insurance companies are paying the bulk of the cost they can get any price they choose to ask. In countries where personal health insurance is virtually non-existent one finds ALL medical costs to be a fraction of US costs. > Typically my drug insurance plan pays 80% of the cost of each medication > including the dispensing fee; while I pay 20%. > There ya go. I won't ask how much the insurance costs :) IMHO, the approach in the US is 180 degrees backwards in dealing with this out-of-control snowball. Instead of the insurance companies figuring out ways to fill their pockets using the medical industry as the scapegoat and vice-versa...and the government feeding right into that game...SOMEBODY ought to step in and put the brakes on the medical business that has inflated itself way out of step with other costs in modern society. I hate to see government intervention on what should be a private business issue but this fiasco is turning into a public health issue and thats where the Feds are obliged to do something. Back to the topic. Buying offshore? If you're talking about discount drugs from some unknown internet site you're taking a big risk. Not simply in the unknown quality of the product, but all of the issues surrounding non-delivery with no recourse, sending your credit card number to some unknown entity in India or whatever. There are legitimate online sellers but one must do their homework to separate the little bit of wheat from a major amount of chaff thats out there only to capitalize on the gullible public. -Bill Article: 323628 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <43434077_3@newspeer2.tds.net> Subject: Re: Silvertone 6C5G tubes Message-ID: <1128701629.c6032ffcfcc31bc635f8c7895e6b3223@teranews> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 11:13:41 -0500 "Ken Scharf" wrote in message news:JSj1f.5460$Ww5.5320@bignews4.bellsouth.net... > I always thought that the 6C5 was intended for RF use (oscillator, rf > amp, detector) while the 6J5 was intended for AF use. Both tubes have > similar parameters to be interchangible (except for inter element > capacitance), and both were made in metal and glass. > > BTW all the 6c5GT's i've seen had the external plate shield. In mid-1935 RCA brought out the 6C5, one of the first metal tubes; and there were glass versions of same. It was the only general purpose triode with an octal base available for two years. Then the 6J5 came out, and the 6C5 was no longer used in any new production. This 4587A came with a Silvertone branded 6C5G which has no shield (like all the other Silvertone 6C5Gs I've seen) in the phase-inverter position and a Silvertone 6C5GT in the oscillator position. That has a shield, as does every glass 6C5 I've ever seen - except Silvertone 6C5Gs. I don't know why their 6C5Gs are different from everyone else's. I guess it would be the interelectrode capacitance that causes the alignment issues on the foreign band. At the factory, they would have been aligned for a 6C5G with no internal shield. Then you had to keep using versions with no shield or risk upsetting the alignment. Strange. paul Article: 323629 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128390057.365600.170060@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128652787.913051.179870@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128688705.813853.295690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: good stuff here lately... Message-ID: Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 17:17:25 GMT Yes, please don't. Lord knows you don't want to tear up any brain cells, Peter. Do have a good day! You simply aren't getting anywhere in that car anyway. "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1128688705.813853.295690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Yeah, Skippy is back, God help us. > > Let's *try* not to answer or acknowledge his ravings. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 323630 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Albert Aerts" Subject: Website update Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 19:51:42 +0200 Message-ID: <4346b5a7$0$21483$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be> "The Aerts Family" homepage has been updated ! Featuring antique radios, antique cameras, amateur radio, ON6TS, scotland, cooking. www.aerts.nu Happy viewing. Article: 323631 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: WD-II TUBES Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 12:49:11 -0500 Message-ID: <1406-4346B517-535@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: I ORDERED 100+ TUBES AND BASES RIGHT BEFORE I HAD MY STROKE, THEY HAVE BEEN DELIVERED NOW BUT I AM NO LONGER ABLE TO ASSEMBLE THEM. WOULD YOU ADD THE BASE AND THE ASSORTED TUBES TO THE LIST OF THINGS AVAILABLE AT $5.00 LESS THAN THE ASSEMBLED TUBE AND LESS ONLY THE 5676. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 323632 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Larry Subject: Re: Silvertone 6C5G tubes References: <43434077_3@newspeer2.tds.net> <1128701629.c6032ffcfcc31bc635f8c7895e6b3223@teranews> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 12:58:46 -0500 Mark Oppat wrote: > what's even odder, > The best Silvertone tombstones are the models 1905 and 1955 (same chassis) 8 > tubers with variable selectivity. On that set they use a type 41 for the > oscillator!!!! talk about ODD. An audio output tube for an oscillator? > wonder why. that was the 1936 model year. > > Mark Oppat > Similar situation on a Crosley Super 11, circa 1936, using 6K6GT for the oscillator. Any opinions on this odd usage of audio output tubes? -Larry Anderson Article: 323633 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <43434077_3@newspeer2.tds.net> <1128701629.c6032ffcfcc31bc635f8c7895e6b3223@teranews> Subject: Re: Silvertone 6C5G tubes Message-ID: Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:02:19 GMT "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:KYGdnSXIab0UMdvenZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > what's even odder, > The best Silvertone tombstones are the models 1905 and 1955 (same chassis) 8 > tubers with variable selectivity. On that set they use a type 41 for the > oscillator!!!! talk about ODD. An audio output tube for an oscillator? > wonder why. that was the 1936 model year. > > Mark Oppat Well, it WAS a groundbreaking year for Silvertones, with a lot of awesome ideas in cabinet design...why not the chassis? Article: 323634 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 14:04:36 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: WD-II TUBES References: <1406-4346B517-535@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <27185$4346b8b5$4232bd46$30189@COQUI.NET> Bill Turner wrote: > I ORDERED 100+ TUBES AND BASES RIGHT BEFORE I HAD MY STROKE, THEY HAVE > BEEN DELIVERED NOW BUT I AM NO LONGER ABLE TO ASSEMBLE THEM. WOULD YOU > ADD THE BASE AND THE ASSORTED TUBES TO THE LIST OF THINGS AVAILABLE AT > $5.00 LESS THAN THE ASSEMBLED TUBE AND LESS ONLY THE 5676. I think that was meant to be a personal email to me...I'll make the change on the website. -Bill M Article: 323635 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: WD-II TUBES References: <1406-4346B517-535@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:06:27 GMT Bill Turner wrote: > I ORDERED 100+ TUBES AND BASES RIGHT BEFORE I HAD MY STROKE, THEY HAVE > BEEN DELIVERED NOW BUT I AM NO LONGER ABLE TO ASSEMBLE THEM. I had mentioned this previously, and I'll mention it again. Bill, it's time for you to get your house in order. So to speak. Time to deal with the lawyers and get everything set up unless you want your collection and everything else you've worked for to end up in a land fill. This goes for all of us actually. Most of the time, it's sudden and we aren't given the chance to see the "writing on the wall." Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 323636 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Bremer-Tulley Counterphase AC console Message-ID: Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 14:57:22 -0400 Ask him to ask the "antique lady" what she is willing to pay! Pete "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:CdCdndjS69v5KdvenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > a guy just called me... has a Bremer-Tulley Counterphase AC powered console > in highboy cabinet with doors, might want to sell it (it his landlord's). > He's in Canton, MI near Michigan Ave and Hannon Rd.l I told him it might > be worth $125, he had been told $250 by some antiques lady. > email me for his phone # if iinterested. > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 323637 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: Subject: Re: Bremer-Tulley Counterphase AC console Message-ID: Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 19:26:31 GMT "Oh, heavens, dear it may be WORTH that but could I afford to pay it?" "chuckle" Uncle Peter probably owns the rights to that book. " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:eyz1f.3668$fE5.2489@fed1read06... > Ask him to ask the "antique lady" what she is willing to pay! > > Pete > > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:CdCdndjS69v5KdvenZ2dnUVZ_s2dnZ2d@comcast.com... > > a guy just called me... has a Bremer-Tulley Counterphase AC powered > console > > in highboy cabinet with doors, might want to sell it (it his landlord's). > > He's in Canton, MI near Michigan Ave and Hannon Rd.l I told him it might > > be worth $125, he had been told $250 by some antiques lady. > > email me for his phone # if iinterested. > > Mark Oppat > > > > > > > > Article: 323638 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: Website update Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 13:32:14 -0600 Message-ID: References: <4346b5a7$0$21483$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be> That's a great collection of radio's Albert and you site is very well put together. Thanks for sharing !! Ben "Albert Aerts" wrote in message news:4346b5a7$0$21483$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be... > "The Aerts Family" homepage has been updated ! > Featuring antique radios, antique cameras, amateur radio, ON6TS, scotland, > cooking. > > www.aerts.nu > > Happy viewing. > > Article: 323639 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: OT: Offshore pharmacies References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 20:49:49 GMT I wish there were, I could use some Hydrocodone for the pinched nerve in my neck. Roger D Johnson wrote: > Has anyone on the list had any dealings with offshore > pharmacies? It seems that there are hundreds of them > but I'm leery of getting ripped off. Any suggestions > on good ones or those to avoid appreciated. > > 73, Roger > Article: 323640 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: speaker reconing Date: 7 Oct 2005 17:04:02 -0500 Message-ID: <4346f05b$0$179$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: <11kamu1mmquj950@news.supernews.com> <3qydnbwdAuIdi9veRVn-qg@comcast.com> <1128690020.694016.319320@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1b-dnSWMeP0wNtveRVn-vA@comcast.com> Mark Oppat wrote: >>I'd really like to know more, Mark. Do you have this written up >>anywhere? >> >>Brian >> > > > no, I havent...I might do that seminar again... maybe I'll mention it to Ron > Lawrence from the Charlotte NC swap (did it there a few years ago) or at > Lansing again.... but let me give you the basics here. > > First, a speaker is a simple piston machine. Get the cone to go in and out > without rubbing, flapping or disintegrating and you will have good sound. > When testing for misalignment, have the speaker facing up on the bench and > push GENTLY on the cone with four fingers (two each hand) placed around the > voice coil. If you feel or hear any rubbing, the speaker needs work. > > For cone repairs, > > #1 The key to saving a speaker is having an intact basket, voice coil and > spider (the spider is either the internal type with screw or external type > that is glued to the basket (frame of speaker). usually these are OK. If > not, you might have to have the speaker reconed. Cost is about $4/ inch > diameter today. > > #2 check out the spider. Many times these come unglued and cause > distortion. Look behind the cone (if its an external spider) and lift the > cone gently. If the spider comes up off the metal, its loose. I drisle a > little GC service cement down there and tip the basket around to run it > under the spider a little. Be careful, too much and it will run under the > spider and into the voice coil! You will then reposition the voice coil to > center by shimming it there if you have some reconer's shims or, use old > developed photo negative cut into shims. You put 3 of them inside around > the voice coil and slide them in gently. You will have to remove the felt > dust cover with solvent or just cut it out carefully with xacto knife. > Then, to hold the cone down slightly, I like to use various diameter cans > (tuna, old coffee cans, etc) turned upside with some screws inside for > proper weight to hold the paper in place. Pick the right can to fit where > your patch is. Add enough weight to push the spider down to the basket. > > > #3 typically the cone was bashed and you can just reglue it together bit by > bit. work from the center out... use electrical tape from behind to hold > bits together. that tape will not stick hard unless you mash it down, so > put it on gently. I like GC "Service Cement" but many other kinds of glue > will work. You can use hardening glues in the cone area, but use rubber > cement or contact cement on the outer flexible "surround". for repairs on > the surround, use imitation chamois material or any similar flexible cloth > stuff... OR, ignor it. I have fixed many speakers and left some holes out > in the surround. As long as it supports the cone and is not missing too > much, leave it. > I like to coat that with the rubber cement anyways for strength. > > #4 if you just have some holes, or a big section of cone missing, use any > stiff paper of similar weight for patching. I like manilla envelope paper > from 9x12 envelopes. You can color it with a marker if you want... or, go > to the stationary store, you can check out all the writing papers too... > maybe get a bunch of samples if you can. clean up the old ragged edge and > cut new paper to overlap 1/2" or so.Test fit your patch. Glue it in and > hold in place until the glue sets... use the old can trick mentioned > previously. > > those are the very basics. If you know what you are doing, basic repairs > take only 15-30mins... and a full "cone-dectomy" can take an hour or two. > > dont EVER discard an original electro-dynamic speaker unless its really bad > (only 5% of bad speakers hit this level) . > > If you dont want to put any work into this kind of repair, get a permanent > magnet speaker of correct size to fit the opening and jumper onto the old > voice coil wires (unhook at least one of the original VC wires), then mount > the old speaker securely to the bottom of the cabinet and install the PM in > the normal spot. You get to use the old field coil and output tranny that > way, and you preserve the original speaker in some way. > > I have about a dozen other tricks but this is the basic stuff. > > Hope this helps... > > Mark Oppat > Antique Audio > For a standard radio speaker, I like Mark's process. However, if you're inclined to take this job to a professional, I endorse Saul's suggestion. A Brown Soun, in San Rafael, California, do superb work. About half their work is for rock musicians, who are always trashing their speakers. Bubba Article: 323641 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Looking for EMPTY Tube Caddys Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 19:35:10 -0600 Message-ID: I'm looking to buy 3 or 4 empty tube caddys in good condition. I just checked out eBay and all they have there is tube caddys stuffed with tubes . I don't want the tubes...I already have TONS of them...that's why I'd like to find some caddys. If anyone has any they'd like to get rid of, drop me an email. Ben Article: 323642 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 21:40:08 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Tips and Tricks References: <1128709563.578501.15340@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <110b2$4347237a$4232bdf4$23282@COQUI.NET> Engineer wrote: > > There are very elegant LED solutions to dead lamps. I have just fixed > a couple of Sansui receivers (both circa 1975 model 5050's) this way. > I put the full solution on AudioKarma, see: > > http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=47830 > > Cheers, > Roger Question. I haven't a clue as how one might go about calculating this, but what about tapping off of a 6-volt tube in a series heater string for an LED panel light? Would the turn on surge just simply zap it? And for general side-lit dial applications what would be a desirable CP rating? -Bill M Article: 323643 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" Subject: Cunningham CX 371 & Radiotron UX 171 globe tubes Message-ID: <_rF1f.11664$q1.4631@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 01:40:10 GMT What applications are these tubes used for? Omer http://cgi.ebay.com/2-cunningham-cx-371-2-radiotron-ux-171-globe-tubes_W0QQitemZ5816804060QQcategoryZ64629QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Article: 323644 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 22:10:23 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Cunningham CX 371 & Radiotron UX 171 globe tubes References: <_rF1f.11664$q1.4631@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Omer Suleimanagich wrote: > What applications are these tubes used for? > > Omer Audio output. -Bill Article: 323645 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Alan 'A.J.' Franzman" References: Subject: Re: OT, The Total score!!! Message-ID: <6WF1f.10832$HM1.4509@trnddc04> Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 02:12:18 GMT "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> wrote in message : > BTW, does anybody know about nixies with $ symbol > (e.g. antique POS display)? I have never come across such a tube - see my page: Nixies don't last very long when displaying a single symbol most/all of the time, so unless your POS/cash register application would normally display various symbols in that position, something like a neon bulb behind a mask would work better. However, there are a few segment-style alphanumeric neon readout tubes that can make a squared-off "$", types: B-7971 (2.5 inch tall display) - fairly common but price rising sharply due to desireable large size, currently ~ $30 each B-8971 (1 3/8 inch tall display) - extremely rare. One website lists them at over $100 each. B-5971 (5/8 inch tall display) - rather rare but typically not too expensive when you find them used. Several flat-panel segmented alphanumeric multi-character neon readouts exist. There are also several nixie tubes that display "S"; however, none of them can also display a "1" or "I" (which could be combined with the "S" to make a very good "$", if any such tube were available). The closest possibility using this approach is type B-50318, which can display "S" and "/" (the slash character is, to the best of my knowledge, unique to this extremely rare tube {not counting the segmented types}). -- -------------------- Alan "A.J." Franzman Email: a.j.franzman [ A T ] verizon [ D O T ] net -------------------- Article: 323646 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <11kadho51jg7rf3@corp.supernews.com> <7oudnep3Zq0o9NjeRVn-rw@giganews.com> <_6ydnTESjNigtdreRVn-rA@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Happy Birthday R.A.R+P! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 02:14:16 GMT "Bill Cohn" wrote in message news:_6ydnTESjNigtdreRVn-rA@comcast.com... > Hey I found my name on that list with my very first Internet e-mail > address. It pointed back to the fidonet bulletin board I ran during the > early 90s, The Precision Board. > > Bill Cohn - ex Bill.Cohn@precision.chigate.com Very cool indeed! I printed my very first email and response (my brother). Article: 323647 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <_rF1f.11664$q1.4631@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Cunningham CX 371 & Radiotron UX 171 globe tubes Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 02:14:42 GMT What period of radios? Omer "Bill" wrote in message news:eb7ec$43472a8f$4232bdf4$26991@COQUI.NET... > Omer Suleimanagich wrote: > >> What applications are these tubes used for? >> >> Omer > > Audio output. > > -Bill Article: 323648 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Cunningham CX 371 & Radiotron UX 171 globe tubes References: <_rF1f.11664$q1.4631@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 02:21:08 GMT Omer Suleimanagich wrote: > What period of radios? > Mid 20s into the 30s. Ron Article: 323649 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: old tape recorders Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 22:48:03 -0400 Message-ID: <3qoqb6Fft2irU1@individual.net> Hi All i guess this is kind of off-topic, however someone in this group may be able to help. i have a collection of old tape recorders ranging from the late 40's to the early sixties. in my collection i have several webcor EP-2005 models from the late fifties. these used a flat fabric belt to drive the take up reel. the problem is that these belts disintegrate. i know that several tape recorder manufacturers used these type of belts in their equipment too. does anyone here know of a source for these belts. any help is appreciated. cikovicatcluestickdotorg -- The Shadow Knows Article: 323650 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Offshore pharmacies From: "Haggis" telus.net> References: <1128625583.686533.23190@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1128631699.805706.129280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 04:17:19 GMT On 7-Oct-2005, Bill wrote: > I've lived off of the mainland for nearly 20 years now and have had > plenty of occasions to need prescription medications. I've seen > repeated examples where a brand name drug manufacturer sells locally for > a fraction of the cost of the American-marketed version. I'm not > talking 25% less cost, I'm talking something that might be sold for $50 > in the USA may be $2.50 in Latin America. I have to agree with Bill here. I too lived in Latin America for quite a few years. One time, years ago now, when a certain prescription drug was the "be all and end all" for stomach ulcers, I "thought" they were coming back to bother me. Remembering the name of said prescription, I waltzed into the local farmacia and asked if I could buy some (it was the custom back then to 'self diagnose' :-)). "Certainly", said the pharmacist and got me a bottle of the identical pills (well, not quite 'identical' - they were made locally, but the brand, bottle and labeling were the same) - and - I haven't been bothered with what I thought were ulcers since. I could tell you a few tales about N. Am. medicine vs. S. Am. medicine, but it's tooooooo...... far OT. No, I'm not referring to Shamanism :-). The bottle of pills cost only 5 percent of what I paid in Canada (or, to be precise, what the insurance company paid) For those who are interested, my prescription/hospital benefits/eyeglasses/dental insurance cost about US50.00 per month for the family, regardless of how many children. Many, if not most, companies pays half the premiums, so my cost was about US$25.00 per month. FWIW. Haggis. Article: 323651 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: FS: RCA power tube octal socket NOS/NIB, not what you expect Date: Fri, 07 Oct 2005 21:59:54 -0700 Message-ID: References: <4345D70D.5030007@worldnet.att.net> Why remove the pins you don't need? The only thing on that end of the tube is the filament and if any of the pins are used as tie points they better be at filament potential. The voltage is high enough to jump to any pin that was significantly different. Since that is the case, there should only be one pin used as a tie point, for the filament voltage dropping resistor. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 12:57:42 -0400, Mark Oppat wrote: > sure would, but that is rare to see all the pins there... I wonder if it > was an aftermarket version where you could remove the ones you didnt need??? > I worked at a parts distributor in the late 70's, sold a bunch of these, but > dont recall if there were "universal". I know we had a whole rack of > different ones... and, they were pretty dusty from not selling! > > Mark Oppat > > > "K3HVG" wrote in message > news:n-ednQyZOZWn-dvenZ2dnUVZ_tOdnZ2d@adelphia.com... >> Nope... the bottom view shows all pins installed. I guess they'd wotk >> OK??? >> >> Mark Oppat wrote: >> > Jim wrote: >> > >> > Of course, just >> > >> >>because it was made for one purpose doesn't mean that it can't be used > for >> >>another. Since it has all the contacts, a power tube would work. >> > >> > >> > Well, Jim, these HV TV sockets usually dont have all the contracts! > He >> > doesnt show the bottom but often there are only 4 socket pins... which > is >> > why I pitched all mine a while back. worthless for anything but the > sets >> > they were designed for, which is the scourge of most TV parts... >> > >> > Mark Oppat >> > >> > >> > >> >> Article: 323652 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 01:09:26 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Is this worth the buy it now? References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <9d4a5$43475488$4232bddd$31223@COQUI.NET> Art's Antique Radios wrote: > I say not as that is a photo finish that is near impossible to repair or > replace > > > "RadioGary" wrote in message > news:1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >>Love Zeniths. This looks good with the exception of the cabinet wear. >> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ZENITH-7D229-Tombstone-Radio-1937-BC-SW-7-Tubes-7-D-229_W0QQitemZ6566780108QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >> > Close call, but I'll agree with Art. For starters I wouldn't buy from anyone named Larry who calls themself "pamela-anderson-lee" . Second, $15 for boxxes (sic) seems a tad steep. Third, no personal checks or Paypal. Indicates a general distrust of the buyer and mitigates the buyer's option for recourse. If I saw the same radio locally in a shop or something I'd be mighty tempted to pay the price. But when you add boxxes (sic), shipping, a distrustful seller the deal tips towards NO. -Bill Article: 323653 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <1127595696.26394af8e834cf36b953e212c350d598@teranews> <1128266452.ba8a72834346c4ba5a27aa7cb391b11b@teranews> Subject: Re: HP 432A RF power meter Message-ID: <1128748755.525a4c5a036af534ec42e650346a7046@teranews> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 22:19:09 -0700 I've now listed the second (and last) of these meters - I looked on the Aligent web site, it says this thing costs $12,032 - that's a pretty expensive meter, no? wonder what makes it so pricey? anyway, the buy it now is a tiny fraction of that price - Article: 323654 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <3qoqb6Fft2irU1@individual.net> Subject: Re: old tape recorders Message-ID: <1128748905.fbffc4b5b3267666afe44cbd60d5c1d9@teranews> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 22:21:36 -0700 this may not be the help you want, but I would bet that you could easily make those belts by using fabric tape and super glue - cut the tape to the proper width, allow length to be about 1/4 inch too long, overlap the 1/4 inch and use the super glue to hold it together - the small lump from the overlap won't be noticed on the takeup reel. "Radio Rambler" wrote in message news:3qoqb6Fft2irU1@individual.net... > Hi All > i guess this is kind of off-topic, however someone in this group may be > able > to help. > i have a collection of old tape recorders ranging from the late 40's to > the > early sixties. in my collection i have several webcor EP-2005 models from > the late fifties. these used a flat fabric belt to drive the take up reel. > the problem is that these belts disintegrate. i know that several tape > recorder manufacturers used these type of belts in their equipment too. > does anyone here know of a source for these belts. > any help is appreciated. > > cikovicatcluestickdotorg > -- > The Shadow Knows Article: 323655 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Offshore pharmacies Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 01:52:24 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1128625583.686533.23190@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1128631699.805706.129280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> this is exactly it. what is needed imho is medical co-ops. owned by the members and having a vested interest in keeping drug/medical costs low for its members, not making profits for its shareholders. randy > IMHO, the approach in the US is 180 degrees backwards in dealing with this > out-of-control snowball. Instead of the insurance companies figuring out > ways to fill their pockets using the medical industry as the scapegoat and > vice-versa...and the government feeding right into that game...SOMEBODY > ought to step in and put the brakes on the medical business that has > inflated itself way out of step with other costs in modern society. I > hate to see government intervention on what should be a private business > issue but this fiasco is turning into a public health issue and thats > where the Feds are obliged to do something. Article: 323656 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: Re: Virtual Vintag Radios Message-ID: <1h0fk1t877eg04o656u591ch2i88c78r8d@4ax.com> References: <1128560909.512430.187320@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 08:43:57 GMT yes a CNC mill is the start of it. Bob nailed it with the term "fabbers" I googled that and it came up with some pretty interesting web pages. a CNC mill is subtractive, other machines can do the same as an additive process. It is interesting to think that we may not be that far from being able to economically reproduce one off parts. It might make it possible to reproduce a lot of parts for radios, like a rare escutcheon for example. we have seen how 2 dimensional images can now be professionally manipulated by a 10 year old kid with photoshop, and printed. now if the printer could make 3d objects..we might begin to see a lot of new ideas and inventions, as we would be able to build and perfect various concepts, much as a software developer doesen't need to re invent every piece of code, he just builds on what is already invented. anyway it is OT I know.. Phil On Fri, 7 Oct 2005 00:05:46 -0700, "Bob in Phx" wrote: >It already here,,, have you seen a cnc mill at work. The price of those >things keeps coming down!!! Plus, my brother was at a cnc trade show and >they now have a 3d scanner that will digitize almost anything, then send the >file to a cnc.... Its bloody amazing!!!!! > >bob in phx >"Tim Mullen" wrote in message >news:di4591$mf$1@reader1.panix.com... >> In <1128560909.512430.187320@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> >> "philsvintageradios" writes: >> >>>I think the next thing to come will be something along the lines of a >>>box, where you can send it a program and make 3 dimensional objects. >>>imagine downloading a program for a pocket knife or a new can opener,, >>>then opening the program and custom tayloring it to your own needs, you >>>submit the file to the "magic box" then open the door ,, and "poof" >>>there it is ready to be used.. >> >> Fabbers. >> >>>we can do similar things now with photopolymers,, how long will it take >>>for this to become a little more practical? maybe a molding proceess >>>could be involved, something like that. >> >> Have you read Neil Stephenson's (of "Snowcrash" fame) "Diamond Age"? >> Interesting sc-fi yarn about some societal aspects of a civilization >> where molecular assembly is commonplace. >> >> -- >> Tim Mullen >> ------------------------------------------------------------------ >> Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. >> ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- > Article: 323657 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Re: Looking for EMPTY Tube Caddys Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 05:05:00 -0600 Message-ID: References: <-4KdnRsqi_kf09reRVn-jw@adelphia.com> Miles City Montana Ben "Rick Yerke" wrote in message news:-4KdnRsqi_kf09reRVn-jw@adelphia.com... > Where are you located? I have some. > > In article , "benjamaniac" > wrote: > > I'm looking to buy 3 or 4 empty tube caddys in good condition. I just > >checked out eBay and all they have there is tube caddys stuffed with tubes . > >I don't want the tubes...I already have TONS of them...that's why I'd like > >to find some caddys. If anyone has any they'd like to get rid of, drop me an > >email. > > Ben > > > > Article: 323658 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" References: <1_idnYWVJdFY5treRVn-hQ@comcast.com> Subject: Re: now HERE'S a beauty! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 12:19:59 GMT Wow, I like that deco chrome look. "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:1_idnYWVJdFY5treRVn-hQ@comcast.com... > check this gem! what styling! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Antique-Radio-Unusual-Old-Dial-Swedish_W0QQitemZ5815339513QQcategoryZ50595QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 323659 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 08:22:18 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Offshore pharmacies References: <1128625583.686533.23190@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1128631699.805706.129280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: xrongor wrote: > this is exactly it. what is needed imho is medical co-ops. owned by the > members and having a vested interest in keeping drug/medical costs low for > its members, not making profits for its shareholders. > > randy > No, what is needed is some method of stopping them from selling for $50 a pill that costs 50 cents to make. They blame it on goverment regulations/excessive research cost/excessive litigation- you can't separate those factors from the cost. So lets FIX those factors! Co-opping to get the pill for $40 or having the government or insurance companies subsidize $40+ of the cost is playing right into their hand. The shareholders deserve to make a profit but the way things are set up now they are probably getting screwed as much as the consumer. -Bill Article: 323660 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 08:31:15 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Is this worth the buy it now? References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9d4a5$43475488$4232bddd$31223@COQUI.NET> <1128773081.395477.110950@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <5efbd$4347bc14$4232bd84$813@COQUI.NET> RadioGary wrote: > Bill, > > One thing I forgot to mention, he's within driving distance. I live in > the Chicago area and he's agreed to let me pick it up IF I buy or win > it. Now if he still wants to charge me for a pre boxed item, that's > another story. I've been through that before. My gas for the car is > another consideration. > > I may sit this one out, see if he doesn't sell it again. Yes again. > He dropped the price from something more ridiculous. Maybe a cash > offer of something more reasonable. > > Pamela versus Larry? Now that's funny!! Thanks for the antedote. > That makes it better. Its still going to be a challenging restoration job even at $50. Yeah, if you could make a more reasonable cash offer maybe you'd come out ok. -Bill Article: 323661 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: now HERE'S a beauty! References: <1_idnYWVJdFY5treRVn-hQ@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 08:38:21 -0400 What styling? Ken Mark Oppat wrote: > check this gem! what styling! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Antique-Radio-Unusual-Old-Dial-Swedish_W0QQitemZ5815339513QQcategoryZ50595QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 323662 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: HP 432A RF power meter From: Larry References: <1127595696.26394af8e834cf36b953e212c350d598@teranews> <1128266452.ba8a72834346c4ba5a27aa7cb391b11b@teranews> <1128748755.525a4c5a036af534ec42e650346a7046@teranews> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 09:01:21 -0400 "william_b_noble" wrote in news:1128748755.525a4c5a036af534ec42e650346a7046@teranews: > it says this thing costs $12,032 WOW! Even my rich uncle Sam didn't pay anywhere near that much. It's just a thermister meter. I agree with the other comment about the thermister mount. Without it, the 432 is useless. You can't put power into a 432. It measures DC.... -- Larry Article: 323663 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Offshore pharmacies From: Larry References: <1128625583.686533.23190@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1128631699.805706.129280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 09:05:32 -0400 Bill wrote in news:c25bb$4347b9fb$4232bd84$338@COQUI.NET: > No, what is needed is some method of stopping them from selling for $50 > a pill that costs 50 cents to make. They blame it on goverment > regulations/excessive research cost/excessive litigation- you can't > separate those factors from the cost. So lets FIX those factors! > The entire cause of high drug prices is the American Medical Society, the doctor's union that guarantees you must go to THEM and give them their cut before you can buy it. This drives the cost through the roof with the payoffs and graft and the doctor's commissions. It's about CONTROL....price control. In any country without the doctor's stranglehold on who buys and who doesn't, prices plummet. That damned victimizer didn't get his waterfront mansion, big yachts and fancy cars by charging reasonable prices. He's just as much an opportunist as your lawyer. Screwing people in trouble is what it's all about. "How much money do you have and I can save you. Give it all to me." -- Larry Article: 323664 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: antanna lead in wire - Update From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <6hh8i1plt1cvbp5rmrq3a3ohh8pnjrq7v2@4ax.com> <27c7e$43244b31$4232bd80$15390@COQUI.NET> <_GYUe.77907$DW1.34169@fed1read06> <8no8i15kap13kii2e9q627givu6j9n2bkd@4ax.com> Message-ID: <3zP1f.225522$084.37016@attbi_s22> Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 13:10:23 GMT In article , philsvintageradiosREMOVE@shaw.ca says... > > > The dial is crowded with stations from one end to the other and I am >having the time of my life hearing what I never could before. Best of >all it seems to have solved the problem that plagued me before, with >interference from sources of noise from computers and such. > > >Thanks to all who helped with this. >Phil > Excellent Phil... glad the new antenna system is working out correctly. now get that Grunow 1291 up and running and you will hear another layer of stations... John k9uwa Article: 323665 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Cunningham CX 371 & Radiotron UX 171 globe tubes From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <_rF1f.11664$q1.4631@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 13:12:38 GMT In article , oabukovac@earthlink.net says... > > >What period of radios? > >Omer Radios like the Philco model 20 use a pair of 171's ... or 271...or 371... all same tube... type 71 John k9uwa Article: 323666 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <3qoqb6Fft2irU1@individual.net> Subject: Re: old tape recorders Message-ID: <4yP1f.9236$wf6.1822335@twister.nyc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 13:09:20 GMT This has become a problem the last few years. PRB _used_ to carry a good line of them but since being bought out by Russell Industries and moved to NYC they've stopped getting replacements as they run out. If you really feel lucky you could get in touch with them and see if any are still around. The number for the 2005 series was FF16.8 (Flat Fabric, 16.8 inch inside circumference). (Walsco 1409-13) You can call or email them: http://www.russellind.com/contact.htm You can also check with projector repair part sellers like Huron: http://gallery.bcentral.com/GID2025592DD239498-Replacement-Parts/Projector-Parts/Belts.aspx They may have a source. The other choice is to make your own. Check fabric stores for cloth "tape" or hemming material (forget what it is called exactly). Several types are available. There's even one that can be heat bonded with an iron. Try to find the one closest to the width of your belt. Look for the special glue made for fabric repairs. It is generally more flexible than general-purpose glues which will cause a stiff point where the joint is. This can cause problems like slippage and jerking when the belt goes over the motor pulley but shouldn't affect the sound as the flywheel is separate on this design, unlike others where the cloth belt drives from the capstan shaft. Sewing is the best way to join the ends but a fine stitch is needed (sewing machine) and it is a small work area. Glue or heat tape will do. Get plenty of material as the first couple of tries will probably be unsatisfactory. They also will probably fail pretty often if the fabric isn't strong. Make spares. I've seen some desperate tries over the years, including one made from fiber-reinforced packing tape stuck end-to-end and folded over its length. Sorta/kinda worked. Good luck. Ray "Radio Rambler" wrote in message news:3qoqb6Fft2irU1@individual.net... > Hi All > i guess this is kind of off-topic, however someone in this group may be > able > to help. > i have a collection of old tape recorders ranging from the late 40's to > the > early sixties. in my collection i have several webcor EP-2005 models from > the late fifties. these used a flat fabric belt to drive the take up reel. > the problem is that these belts disintegrate. i know that several tape > recorder manufacturers used these type of belts in their equipment too. > does anyone here know of a source for these belts. > any help is appreciated. > > cikovicatcluestickdotorg > -- > The Shadow Knows Article: 323667 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1_idnYWVJdFY5treRVn-hQ@comcast.com> Subject: Re: now HERE'S a beauty! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 13:18:21 GMT The cord is frayed. The set hasn't been turned on. The filters might be old. If I plug it in and turn it on, it might blow up on me -- that would be a good thing. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:1_idnYWVJdFY5treRVn-hQ@comcast.com... > check this gem! what styling! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Antique-Radio-Unusual-Old-Dial-Swedish_W0QQitemZ5815339513QQcategoryZ50595QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 323668 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Is this worth the buy it now? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 13:27:50 GMT In article <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, n9vu@yahoo.com says... > > >Love Zeniths. This looks good with the exception of the cabinet wear. > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ZENITH-7D229-Tombstone-Radio-1937-BC-SW-7-Tubes-7-D-229_W 0QQitemZ6566780108QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > I posted a picture on the binaries of this model Zenith.. well actually a 6s229 ... same cabinet... one that had the photofinish on it totally messed up like this one... the wood under that ugly photofinish is really nice.. The picture posted was of one that Joe at Maji Net did... I also have done a couple of them the same way and they came out at least as nice as the one Joe did.... I see someone already banged the buy it now button.. John k9uwa Article: 323669 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: HP 432 RF power meter Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:00:17 +0200 Message-ID: References: <1127595696.26394af8e834cf36b953e212c350d598@teranews> <1128266452.ba8a72834346c4ba5a27aa7cb391b11b@teranews> Not only will the user need the 478A or 8478A/B Thermistor mount, but the special 7 conductor cable between the two. The lowest freq thermistor, the 478A works from 10MHz to 10GHz; the more stable 8478A/B works from 10MHz to 18GHz. Mounts range up to waveguides and air-dielectric 2.4mm. -Pete O. Article: 323670 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4347D482.1040605@worldnet.att.net> From: Al Schapira Subject: Re: FS: RCA power tube octal socket NOS/NIB, not what you expect References: <4345D70D.5030007@worldnet.att.net> <45mdnXVJ648gWdreRVn-rA@rcn.net> Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 14:10:48 GMT This is all very interesting, but does anyone want it? BTW, no one mentioned the threads. I assumed they were for a forced air duct fitting. Anyone ever seen a TV like that? -Al Chuck Harris wrote: > Jim Mueller wrote: > >> Why remove the pins you don't need? The only thing on that end of the >> tube is the filament and if any of the pins are used as tie points they >> better be at filament potential. The voltage is high enough to jump to >> any pin that was significantly different. Since that is the case, there >> should only be one pin used as a tie point, for the filament voltage >> dropping resistor. >> > > Because the unused socket elements couple electrostatically with the > filiment/cathode, > and make excellent collectors of dust, launchers of corona, and generators > of squeal in the audio. Besides, there isn't all that much extra power > available in the HV circuit, you want to squelch as many leakage paths > as possible. > > -Chuck Article: 323671 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: FS: RCA power tube octal socket NOS/NIB, not what you expect References: <4345D70D.5030007@worldnet.att.net> <45mdnXVJ648gWdreRVn-rA@rcn.net> <4347D482.1040605@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 14:20:18 GMT Al Schapira wrote: > This is all very interesting, but does anyone want it? I've lost track, how much were you asking for it? > BTW, no one mentioned the threads. I assumed they were > for a forced air duct fitting. Actually, it's not reallly threads, they're just ridges. But, it is to hold a soft plastic cap over the base of the socket to keep it from attracting excessive dust. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 323672 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" Subject: FA: 1969 Blaupunkt Hildesheim 7639000 car radio Message-ID: <1128784080.9928916b490fa193f54b92336fb4ea09@teranews> Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 08:07:41 -0700 perhaps some of us are considering collecting car radios? Here's another one from my garage (the pile is getting smaller) - don't know for sure what it came from - BMW, VW, Porsche, Mercedes ??? Nice condition. Interestingly, this radio has a neon bulb across the antenna input to protect the radio from major voltage surges - I'll bet you don't see that any more..... very nice construction too, internally. There is a link on the auction page to a radio museum page with internal photos. here's the link to the auction http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4581223096 -- Bill to Email me, repair this address and use it: william_ b_ noble at msn dot com also check out http://www.wbnoble.com Article: 323673 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <1127595696.26394af8e834cf36b953e212c350d598@teranews> <1128266452.ba8a72834346c4ba5a27aa7cb391b11b@teranews> <1128748755.525a4c5a036af534ec42e650346a7046@teranews> Subject: Re: HP 432A RF power meter Message-ID: <1128784343.ecc33bd63ada2991559e168a0e516115@teranews> Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 08:11:52 -0700 my speculation, RE thermistor, is that it's just a thermistor - the big $$ are associated with the mount itself and the calibration - If I were right (and no, I'm making no claims here), then someone could take this meter, add a suitable thermistor (looks like 100 or 200 ohms from the front panel) and use it to measure power - the power measurement comes from the heating of the thermistor. So, you don't need to simulate the thermistor, you can use the real thing and thermistors are cheap - it's just that you wouldn't know what the readings meant without calibrating it. Now, you could calibrate it with another meter, or by borrowing the real thing, or ..... Or, you could just put this thing on your bench and tell people that you bought a $12,000 meter and watch as their jaw bounces off the top of their oxfords.... "DaveM" wrote in message news:CMidnRmjTsz_A9reRVn-gQ@comcast.com... > "william_b_noble" wrote in message > news:1128748755.525a4c5a036af534ec42e650346a7046@teranews... >> I've now listed the second (and last) of these meters - I looked on the >> Aligent web site, it says this thing costs $12,032 - that's a pretty >> expensive meter, no? wonder what makes it so pricey? anyway, the buy >> it now is a tiny fraction of that price - >> > > A good deal, for sure, but not worth a plugged nickel if you don't have > the thermistor mount. That is, unless someone has figured out a way to > simulate the thermistors that sense the RF power. > > -- > Dave M > MasonDG44 at comcast dot net (Just substitute the appropriate characters > in the address) > > Never take a laxative and a sleeping pill at the same time!! > Article: 323674 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FS: RCA power tube octal socket NOS/NIB, not what you expect From: "Jerry McCarty" References: <4345D70D.5030007@worldnet.att.net> <45mdnXVJ648gWdreRVn-rA@rcn.net> <4347D482.1040605@worldnet.att.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 15:14:16 GMT On 8-Oct-2005, Al Schapira wrote: > BTW, no one mentioned the threads. I assumed they were for a forced air > duct fitting. Anyone ever seen a TV like that? Nothing so glamorous as that. The threads were on there to hold a dust cap in place. Article: 323675 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1128709563.578501.15340@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <110b2$4347237a$4232bdf4$23282@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Tips and Tricks Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 15:25:14 GMT I suppose the proper method for calculating this would be to determine the recommended operating current (not voltage!) to properly light the LED. Once you have found an LED that gives the desired brightness, determine the operating current and voltage drop, subtract this drop from the total voltage, then using Ohm's law, calculate the resistance needed to give you the desired amount of current through the LED. Install this resistor in series with the LED. OR, you can do it the easy way. Take a resistor sub box, start with a high value, and keep going down until the LED lights up. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Bill" wrote in message news:110b2$4347237a$4232bdf4$23282@COQUI.NET... > Engineer wrote: > > >> >> There are very elegant LED solutions to dead lamps. I have just fixed a >> couple of Sansui receivers (both circa 1975 model 5050's) this way. I put >> the full solution on AudioKarma, see: >> >> http://audiokarma.org/forums/showthread.php?t=47830 >> >> Cheers, >> Roger > > Question. > > I haven't a clue as how one might go about calculating this, but what > about tapping off of a 6-volt tube in a series heater string for an LED > panel light? Would the turn on surge just simply zap it? > > And for general side-lit dial applications what would be a desirable CP > rating? > > -Bill M Article: 323676 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: FS: RCA power tube octal socket NOS/NIB, not what you expect Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 08:36:56 -0700 Message-ID: <74-4347E798-318@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: <4345D70D.5030007@worldnet.att.net> They're not 'threads' in the sense of having a screw pitch, but are simply retainiing ridges to hold the press-on insulative cap in place. The filament and Anode wires pass thru a small hole in the middle of the cap. You oughta see the GE version of this socket, of about the same vintage. It had an integral X-ray shield to prevent Xrays from going out the bottom, and the rectfier tube itself had a lead oxide envelope. A 'Chicken Little' reaction to a passing media hype scare. Bill(oc) Article: 323677 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" Subject: FA - Warnecke magnetron $0.99 Message-ID: <1128787912.68280f04fe4b539110d1aeda981f8fc5@teranews> Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 09:11:34 -0700 here's the link - add to your tube collection, or buy it to get a nice strong horseshoe shaped magnet - this one is easy to disassemble if you want to display the parts that make up a magnetron. No idea what the inteded useage was, certainloy not a microwave oven http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7552794636 -- Bill also check out http://www.wbnoble.com Article: 323678 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1_idnYWVJdFY5treRVn-hQ@comcast.com> Subject: Re: now HERE'S a beauty! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:46:44 GMT Thanks for reminding me to turn on the PB. It sorta hides the noses of the roof work. I'm sure it's very nice, but I'm trying to snag a SAMS. > If I plug it in and turn it on, it might blow up on me -- that would be a > good thing. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:1_idnYWVJdFY5treRVn-hQ@comcast.com... > > check this gem! what styling! > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Antique-Radio-Unusual-Old-Dial-Swedish_W0QQitemZ5815339513QQcategoryZ50595QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > Mark Oppat > > > > > > > > Article: 323679 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128778889.674834.300190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is this worth the buy it now? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:50:52 GMT You snooze, you lose. More hashbrowns at IHOP. "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1128778889.674834.300190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Oh well, that's one hundred fifty bucks I have to spend on another > radio. I don't think it would have been a good project for me. I'm > not a cabinet refinisher anyway. > > Probably someone who watches these newsgroups, LOL. As Jackie Gleason > once said, I HAVE A BIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGG MOUTHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. > > John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > > In article <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > > n9vu@yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > >Love Zeniths. This looks good with the exception of the cabinet wear. > > > > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ZENITH-7D229-Tombstone-Radio-1937-BC-SW-7-Tubes-7-D-229 _W > > 0QQitemZ6566780108QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > > > I posted a picture on the binaries of this model Zenith.. well actually > > a 6s229 ... same cabinet... one that had the photofinish on it totally messed > > up like this one... the wood under that ugly photofinish is really nice.. > > > > The picture posted was of one that Joe at Maji Net did... I also have > > done a couple of them the same way and they came out at least as nice > > as the one Joe did.... > > > > I see someone already banged the buy it now button.. > > > > John k9uwa > Article: 323680 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128625583.686533.23190@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1128631699.805706.129280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Offshore pharmacies Message-ID: <1PS1f.920$PA1.110606@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:52:13 GMT Forget that, I still don't think the Medicare prescription thing will be cheaper for me than Oregon Medicare. Article: 323681 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4347FF3D.8090802@worldnet.att.net> From: Al Schapira Subject: Re: FS: RCA power tube octal socket NOS/NIB, not what you expect References: <4345D70D.5030007@worldnet.att.net> <45mdnXVJ648gWdreRVn-rA@rcn.net> <4347D482.1040605@worldnet.att.net> Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 17:13:07 GMT Jeffrey D Angus wrote: > Al Schapira wrote: > >> This is all very interesting, but does anyone want it? > > > I've lost track, how much were you asking for it? $10 shipped to any US address. But I'll entertain offers. > >> BTW, no one mentioned the threads. I assumed they were >> for a forced air duct fitting. > > > Actually, it's not reallly threads, they're just ridges. No, they are THREADS! The pitch is about 24 turns per inch. > But, it is to hold a soft plastic cap over the base of > the socket to keep it from attracting excessive dust. > > Jeff > > -Al Article: 323682 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> Subject: Posting soon to ABPR: "AFTER" pix (actually did nice)! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 17:26:48 GMT Those speaker cabs I rebuilt are DONE, and when Cory brings the disc back I will post them (assuming he doesn't misplace a Canon EOS Digital Rebel again like he did on the ledge by the mailboxes last night ;-p...got 5 bucks I needed to deliver them as a reward and I did karaoke, so it was good). Stay tuned. It was worth the wait. Article: 323683 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128778889.674834.300190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128791415.385769.117220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is this worth the buy it now? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 17:32:19 GMT "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1128791415.385769.117220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Well, don't think I lost really. One fifty for that radio plus this > guys boxing and such? There'll be others. > > GB Exactly. I just got done dealing with a guy selling Sams who wanted over $10 for shipping when a $3.50 Media Mail would be FINE. He worried it wouldn't be pretty enough when it arrived (sounded more like a blind date argument to me)... > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > You snooze, you lose. More hashbrowns at IHOP. > > > > "RadioGary" wrote in message > > news:1128778889.674834.300190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > Oh well, that's one hundred fifty bucks I have to spend on another > > > radio. I don't think it would have been a good project for me. I'm > > > not a cabinet refinisher anyway. > > > > > > Probably someone who watches these newsgroups, LOL. As Jackie Gleason > > > once said, I HAVE A BIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGG MOUTHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. > > > > > > John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > > > > In article <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > > > > n9vu@yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Love Zeniths. This looks good with the exception of the cabinet wear. > > > > > > > > > > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ZENITH-7D229-Tombstone-Radio-1937-BC-SW-7-Tubes-7-D-229 > > _W > > > > 0QQitemZ6566780108QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > > > > > > > > > I posted a picture on the binaries of this model Zenith.. well actually > > > > a 6s229 ... same cabinet... one that had the photofinish on it totally > > messed > > > > up like this one... the wood under that ugly photofinish is really > > nice.. > > > > > > > > The picture posted was of one that Joe at Maji Net did... I also have > > > > done a couple of them the same way and they came out at least as nice > > > > as the one Joe did.... > > > > > > > > I see someone already banged the buy it now button.. > > > > > > > > John k9uwa > > > > Article: 323684 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: HP 432A RF power meter Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 14:46:32 +0200 Message-ID: <7b6c9ce83ac0140e9530db68333df6fb@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: <1127595696.26394af8e834cf36b953e212c350d598@teranews> <1128266452.ba8a72834346c4ba5a27aa7cb391b11b@teranews> <1128748755.525a4c5a036af534ec42e650346a7046@teranews> <1128784343.ecc33bd63ada2991559e168a0e516115@teranews> ***(and no, I'm making no claims here), then someone could take this meter, add a suitable thermistor (looks like 100 or 200 ohms from the front panel) and use it to measure power - the power measurement comes from the heating of the thermistor. So, you don't need to simulate the thermistor, you can use ----- The 100 ohm thermistors are the waveguide types. The 200 ohm thermistors (478A, 8478A/B are your normal 50 ohm coax kind. Pete O. of HP From kawninja.at.nospam.cableone.dot.net Thu Oct 13 08:34:33 EDT 2005 Article: 323685 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve P." Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Happy Birthday R.A.R+P! Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 14:24:23 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <11kg777alklbl92@corp.supernews.com> References: <11kadho51jg7rf3@corp.supernews.com> <7oudnep3Zq0o9NjeRVn-rw@giganews.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 11 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.glorb.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:323685 Looks like there were a number of "no" votes. What would be the motivation of voting "no" for such a request? "John Byrns" wrote in message news:jbyrns-0710051318110001@216-80-74-43.d.enteract.com... > Look here for a list of the people who originally voted for (or against) > the formation of the group rec.antiques.radio+phono: > http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/RESULT-rar+p.txt From oldradio-at-wi.rr.com Thu Oct 13 08:34:33 EDT 2005 Article: 323686 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Reply-To: "James Hilins" From: "James Hilins" Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: This weekends find 5 radios $225 Lines: 12 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 19:47:37 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.53.6.126 X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com X-Trace: tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com 1128800857 67.53.6.126 (Sat, 08 Oct 2005 14:47:37 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 14:47:37 CDT Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!cyclone.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-wrt-01.rdc-nyc.rr.com!news-wrt-01.ohiordc.rr.com!news-server.columbus.rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:323686 Seen Binaries group for the radios I brought home this weekend for $225. If anyone knows or has what's supposed to go in the center of the zenith please let me know Jim Article: 323687 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Radio Rambler Subject: Re: old tape recorders Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 15:59:12 -0400 Message-ID: <3qqmokFg7sbhU1@individual.net> References: <3qoqb6Fft2irU1@individual.net> <4yP1f.9236$wf6.1822335@twister.nyc.rr.com> Rune wrote: > This has become a problem the last few years. > > PRB _used_ to carry a good line of them but since being bought out by > Russell Industries and moved to NYC they've stopped getting replacements > as they run out. > > If you really feel lucky you could get in touch with them and see if any > are still around. The number for the 2005 series was FF16.8 (Flat Fabric, > 16.8 inch inside circumference). (Walsco 1409-13) > > You can call or email them: > > http://www.russellind.com/contact.htm > > You can also check with projector repair part sellers like Huron: > > http://gallery.bcentral.com/GID2025592DD239498-Replacement-Parts/Projector-Parts/Belts.aspx > > They may have a source. > > The other choice is to make your own. Check fabric stores for cloth "tape" > or hemming material (forget what it is called exactly). Several types are > available. There's even one that can be heat bonded with an iron. Try to > find the one closest to the width of your belt. > > Look for the special glue made for fabric repairs. It is generally more > flexible than general-purpose glues which will cause a stiff point where > the joint is. This can cause problems like slippage and jerking when the > belt goes over the motor pulley but shouldn't affect the sound as the > flywheel is separate on this design, unlike others where the cloth belt > drives from the capstan shaft. > > Sewing is the best way to join the ends but a fine stitch is needed > (sewing machine) and it is a small work area. Glue or heat tape will do. > > Get plenty of material as the first couple of tries will probably be > unsatisfactory. > > They also will probably fail pretty often if the fabric isn't strong. Make > spares. > > I've seen some desperate tries over the years, including one made from > fiber-reinforced packing tape stuck end-to-end and folded over its length. > Sorta/kinda worked. > > Good luck. > > Ray Thanks for the reply, ray i am gonna try to see if i can get the materials locally to make a few of them. i doubt that EVG-game / PRB will be able to help as they discontinued their obsolete products a few years ago. thanx -- The Shadow Knows Article: 323688 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Janssen Subject: Re: HP 432A RF power meter References: <1127595696.26394af8e834cf36b953e212c350d598@teranews> <1128266452.ba8a72834346c4ba5a27aa7cb391b11b@teranews> <1128748755.525a4c5a036af534ec42e650346a7046@teranews> <1128784343.ecc33bd63ada2991559e168a0e516115@teranews> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 20:03:53 GMT DaveM wrote: >"william_b_noble" wrote in message >news:1128784343.ecc33bd63ada2991559e168a0e516115@teranews... > > >>my speculation, RE thermistor, is that it's just a thermistor - the big $$ >>are associated with the mount itself and the calibration - If I were right >>(and no, I'm making no claims here), then someone could take this meter, >>add a suitable thermistor (looks like 100 or 200 ohms from the front >>panel) and use it to measure power - the power measurement comes from the >>heating of the thermistor. So, you don't need to simulate the thermistor, >>you can use the real thing and thermistors are cheap - it's just that you >>wouldn't know what the readings meant without calibrating it. Now, you >>could calibrate it with another meter, or by borrowing the real thing, or >>..... >> >>Or, you could just put this thing on your bench and tell people that you >>bought a $12,000 meter and watch as their jaw bounces off the top of their >>oxfords.... >> >> >>"DaveM" wrote in message >>news:CMidnRmjTsz_A9reRVn-gQ@comcast.com... >> >> >>>"william_b_noble" wrote in message >>>news:1128748755.525a4c5a036af534ec42e650346a7046@teranews... >>> >>> >>>>I've now listed the second (and last) of these meters - I looked on the >>>>Aligent web site, it says this thing costs $12,032 - that's a pretty >>>>expensive meter, no? wonder what makes it so pricey? anyway, the buy >>>>it now is a tiny fraction of that price - >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>A good deal, for sure, but not worth a plugged nickel if you don't have >>>the thermistor mount. That is, unless someone has figured out a way to >>>simulate the thermistors that sense the RF power. >>> >>>-- >>>Dave M >>> >>> > > >Well, you're close, but no cigar. There are four thermistors in the mount; >two thermistors that actually sense the RF power and two for compensation. >They are not "just a thermistor" either. All four are very closely matched >for thermal characteristics. They are also very specifically manufactured >for use as RF absorption units in this instrument. The thermistors are >arranged as two series pairs, and are all mounted in close proximity on a >thermally conductive surface to maintain thermal equilibrium. All this at >frequencies from 10 MHz to 10 GHz. Another model thermistor mount takes the >instrument to 18 GHz. > >It would be quite a feat, indeed, if you were to somehow make "just a >thermistor" work in this instrument. > >The mount itself is a very carefully designed and built enclosure that >isolates the thermistors from environmental shock and handling. Quite an >instrument, if you ask me. But, as I said before, the meter is useless >without the thermistor mount. > > > These thermistors are about the size of a bit of dust with leads that I can't see. Also there are/were many meters on the surplus market but much fewer thermistor mounts and even less good useable cables. If you can come up with a mount and cable then the meter is easy. Bill K7NOM Article: 323689 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FM From: Larry References: <4338758b$1_7@Output.100ProofNews.com> <43388639$1_18@Output.100ProofNews.com> <4338923d$0$224$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <4338a348_7@Opticon.100ProofNews.com> <4338eb6d$0$247$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <433b39d9$0$225$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <1128008980.c4ce6f1d521eb9fb5f66769306da167c@teranews> <1128796487.607778.243650@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:14:12 -0400 "Steven" wrote in news:1128796487.607778.243650@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > How much beer was consumed getting the %*&%^&% thing in the bed? That > and making the hop to light speed on those "innocent" country roads > explain everything to me. > > > I don't know. I just saw the results...shaking my head. I put a new piano into a historic church in downtown Charleston. I asked the pastor what should I do with the old one, a 1200# upright monster from 1900 the bugs had eaten and Hurricane Hugo had drown. "Junk it!", were his exact words. I always wanted to see what a piano did when dropped out of a 4th floor window, like the old silent movies. So, we set my fiberglass loading ramp out a window and secured the indoor end under a stairway so it wouldn't follow the piano outside. We rolled the piano out the ramped window after making sure noone would be in the way in the street below, blocking the street with my boxtruck. The old movies were all wrong! That beast BOUNCED...THREE TIMES!...and never came apart. The action was destroyed by the shock, but stayed, mostly, inside the piano! Even the soundboard didn't crack! I expected to have to shovel it into a pile for the trash men to collect, the parts I didn't take home for my fireplace. Didn't happen. We left it on the curb for the city sanitation "claw" to try to pick up. Sure glad I didn't have to carry it down 8 flights of stairs I'd just brought the new one up.... There are three kinds of pianos.....new.....used.....worn out. There's no such thing as an antique piano...worn out or not. -- Larry Article: 323690 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FA: 1969 Blaupunkt Hildesheim 7639000 car radio From: Larry References: <1128784080.9928916b490fa193f54b92336fb4ea09@teranews> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:15:45 -0400 If it were a Mercedes, it would have been a Becker. I think Daimler-Benz owned the company...(c; "william_b_noble" wrote in news:1128784080.9928916b490fa193f54b92336fb4ea09@teranews: > perhaps some of us are considering collecting car radios? Here's > another one from my garage (the pile is getting smaller) - don't know > for sure what it came from - BMW, VW, Porsche, Mercedes ??? Nice > condition. Interestingly, this radio has a neon bulb across the > antenna input to protect the radio from major voltage surges - I'll > bet you don't see that any more..... very nice construction too, > internally. There is a link on the auction page to a radio museum > page with internal photos. > > here's the link to the auction > http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=458122309 > 6 > -- Larry Article: 323691 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: HP 432A RF power meter From: Larry References: <1127595696.26394af8e834cf36b953e212c350d598@teranews> <1128266452.ba8a72834346c4ba5a27aa7cb391b11b@teranews> <1128748755.525a4c5a036af534ec42e650346a7046@teranews> <1128784343.ecc33bd63ada2991559e168a0e516115@teranews> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:18:03 -0400 "DaveM" wrote in news:yOednSy9orH8nNXeRVn-vQ@comcast.com: > The mount itself is a very carefully designed and built enclosure that > isolates the thermistors from environmental shock and handling. Quite > an instrument, if you ask me. But, as I said before, the meter is > useless without the thermistor mount. > > They don't last long when some idiot sailor keys the radar into them off a 20 db directional coupler....maybe microseconds.... -- Larry Article: 323692 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <11kadho51jg7rf3@corp.supernews.com> <7oudnep3Zq0o9NjeRVn-rw@giganews.com> <11kg777alklbl92@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Happy Birthday R.A.R+P! Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 20:21:10 GMT "Steve P." wrote in message news:11kg777alklbl92@corp.supernews.com... > Looks like there were a number of "no" votes. What would be the motivation > of voting "no" for such a request? Some of the members may have been concerned about making waves with the amateur groups, others may have felt there wasn't enough interest to merit it. Note how the charter mentions trying to preserve a harmony with the boatanchor groups by striving not to duplicate their purposes or encroach upon their specific interests. I seriously doubt many of those no votes were possibly malicious. > "John Byrns" wrote in message > news:jbyrns-0710051318110001@216-80-74-43.d.enteract.com... > > > Look here for a list of the people who originally voted for (or against) > > the formation of the group rec.antiques.radio+phono: > > http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/RESULT-rar+p.txt > > Article: 323693 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> Subject: Time Confusion: two or three helpful hints Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 20:22:15 GMT It's established that the timestamp your computer adds when you post (derived from the clock you set, either in BIOS or your OS) determines the most current post status on the current Beta of Google Groups as well as other forums. While some may have error routines in the code that disallow posting with a time outside parameters you gave at signup, Google has stated that they have no solution at the present time and understandably it might affect the accuracy or integrity of the relationships with the posters (we have heard similar arguments for other issues before and I will not add to that). Greenwich Mean Time (GMT/UTC): 0000 ZULU corresponds to 5 or 6 PM in Mountain Time, or around 8 PM Eastern. Not being precise, that is about 4-5 hours behind ET. There are only 5 or 6 time zones defined in North America, so derive UTC/GMT from the difference at ET and adjust +-X for your own zone in relation to it. We occasionally have posters with clocks set 12, 16 or more hours ahead of Mountain even, and sometime the diference EXCEEDS 24 hours! Whether the anomalous setting is an inadvertant error, an attempt to set by world time (Windows and websites normally don't care and deal strictly with MM/DD/YYYY) or some attempt to disguise location in the name of stealth/spam reduction, it just gums up Google even if not USENET itself. There may be members unaware that a CR2025 lithium battery (common watch battery) provides Constant Memory Operating System (CMOS) support and require changing regularly. Low capacity left on the battery will result in erratic behavior in operation, such as bootup errors/hardware error reports, improper BIOS settings and other erroneous problems due to loss of saved settings (as that is how the settings are maintained, with a battery). This will often reset the internal calendar and clock to sometime in 1980! Anyway, this battery is on the motherboard itself and you have to remove power to the computer while changing it. Alas, it will also require resetting all your BIOS settings also as well and time and date. If in doubt, write down all the setting you alter when you set up to assure a smooth continuation of your operations. Timestamp anomalies on Google will stick that post there until either the timestamp is surpassed, or another post to that thread supercedes it as "newest thread in post", that is true, but for those wanting to find new topics it is helpful that the updating process works correctly. Since Google feels that using their own server timestamp is detrimental to the archiving process that they work so hard to preserve, it would be nice thing to have all our clocks in order. A friendly reminder, Steven Article: 323694 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128798828.941874.151130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: DEAD 6 pin tubes Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 20:26:08 GMT Hi, Jim I'll look tonight. Mind suggesting some to look for or emailing me? I really have no idea if the are live or dead but you can have what you need for shipping and a 2 bucks for pop refills. Email's real. "Jim Strickland" wrote in message news:1128798828.941874.151130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I'm looking for a couple *dead* six pin tubes (or six pin plugs that > fit in the tube sockets would work too). I don't want live tubes, as I > only want the bases and don't want to destroy good working tubes. > Mercury vapor tubes need not apply, either, that's just stuff I don't > need to breathe. Does anyone have any in their junk box they'd be > willing to part with? > > -Jim > Article: 323695 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: WTB: DEAD 6 pin tubes From: Larry References: <1128798828.941874.151130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 16:31:53 -0400 "Jim Strickland" wrote in news:1128798828.941874.151130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > I'm looking for a couple *dead* six pin tubes (or six pin plugs that > fit in the tube sockets would work too). I don't want live tubes, as I > only want the bases and don't want to destroy good working tubes. > Mercury vapor tubes need not apply, either, that's just stuff I don't > need to breathe. Does anyone have any in their junk box they'd be > willing to part with? > > -Jim > > Want the real sockets? We're STILL MAKING THEM for use on the Leslie 122A tube leslie speaker for the Hammond organs. Both the 6-pin plug, with the two larger pins and key dot and the matching socket is on each. They have backshells because that's what the 6-pin to 6-pin Leslie extension cables use between the console and Leslie cabinet that's remoted. The chassis mount uses a spring ring around the groove on the socket or there are models with two metal tabs with screw holes in them. Call around your local piano and organ stores and ask to speak with their organ technician. He should have them in his stock as the idiots break them a lot stepping on them. -- Larry Article: 323696 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Offshore pharmacies Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 14:41:08 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1128625583.686533.23190@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1128631699.805706.129280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Bill" wrote in message news:c25bb$4347b9fb$4232bd84$338@COQUI.NET... > xrongor wrote: >> this is exactly it. what is needed imho is medical co-ops. owned by the >> members and having a vested interest in keeping drug/medical costs low >> for its members, not making profits for its shareholders. >> >> randy >> > > No, what is needed is some method of stopping them from selling for $50 a > pill that costs 50 cents to make. They blame it on goverment > regulations/excessive research cost/excessive litigation- you can't > separate those factors from the cost. So lets FIX those factors! > > Co-opping to get the pill for $40 or having the government or insurance > companies subsidize $40+ of the cost is playing right into their hand. The > shareholders deserve to make a profit but the way things are set up now > they are probably getting screwed as much as the consumer. you dont even have a clue how a co-op works do you. randy Article: 323697 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Re: WTB: DEAD 6 pin tubes Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 17:01:01 +0200 Message-ID: <71542c45daf36c731364a82b382472a5@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: <1128798828.941874.151130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> ***I'm looking for a couple *dead* six pin tubes (or six pin plugs that fit in the tube sockets would work too). I don't want live tubes, as I Antique Electronic Supply has these and the shell to cover your FET-ized Boonton Q meter module. _Pete O. Article: 323698 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 17:54:11 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Voltage/resistance ques. References: <1128803740.820832.314100@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: frenchy wrote: > If I have a voltage A going thru resistance B, can I deduce what > voltage I should have on the other end? Or do I have to know what the > amperage of that voltage is to begin with? > I have 175 volts that is going thru 2 meg and then right to the meter > only and coming out 60 volts, supposed to be 165 on the schematics. > Trying to figure out if something could be wrong on the 175 volt side > to cause this that I have to hunt for. The 175 is within 5% of what > it's supposed to be, doesn't this indicate I don't have a problem on > that end? > Thanks! > Would this be voltage on a detector stage by any chance? -Bill Article: 323699 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 17:55:38 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Offshore pharmacies References: <1128625583.686533.23190@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1128631699.805706.129280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: xrongor wrote: > > > you dont even have a clue how a co-op works do you. > > randy > > Apparently not. bill Article: 323700 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Voltage/resistance ques. References: <1128803740.820832.314100@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 17:45:39 -0500 frenchy wrote: > If I have a voltage A going thru resistance B, can I deduce what > voltage I should have on the other end? Yes - in this case you should have a problem. First thing you want to do is unplug the microphone from the (IIRC) RCA jack. Then re-check your volatge. If it's still "in the dirt" - one of the caps (C1001 or C1002) is leaky, or there is a short somewhere. If unpluggin the microphone restores the voltage to near 175V - then there is a problem in the microphone or the cable (coax?) to it. best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 323701 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" Subject: Need alignment instructions: Hallicrafters S-107 MK II Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 22:56:33 GMT I have my Hallicrafters S-107 on the bench and need the alignment instructions. BAMA doesn't have them. Anyone got a copy? -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 323702 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: foxtrot Subject: Need source for Atwater Kent dial bezel Message-ID: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 23:12:26 GMT I have an AK 735 table model Atwater Kent that is missing the round dial bezel, glass, and dial pointers. I especially need that brass dial bezel. A similar bezel was used on model 206, model 145, 225, 356, 465, and many other models both floor and table models. The inside diameter of this bezel is about 3 inches. The pointer is just a single black piece that has a screw hole in the center. Go to the following website to see the radio: http://www.homestead.com/schehrer3/ Article: 323703 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Voltage/resistance ques. Message-ID: References: <1128803740.820832.314100@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 23:31:15 GMT Frenchy, Can I suggest that you spend a little time reading up on Ohm's law, and do a few textbook problems? I'm not trying to be a smartass here but your questions betrays a bit of misundertanding, I think. Voltage doesn't go "through" a resistor, rather it appears "across" it. This isn't just semantics; it reflects the fact that it is CURRENT that flows, not voltage. As Neil pointed out in his response, a meter imposes a load on the circuit, and when one meters a voltage at the far end of a resistor >from the source, that meter reading may be seriously wrong if the load imposed by the meter is significant. If you learn the habit of creating a mental image of an "equivalent circuit", you can avoid this sort of pitfall. Say you have a good multimeter rated at 20,000 ohms per volt, and you are reading the voltage on the 0-500 volt scale. That means the meter itself has a resistance of 500 X 20000 ohms=10 megohms. Now the mental image you want to create has your 175 volt source, then the 2 meg resistor, then the 10 meg resistance of the meter, then ground. So you have a voltage divider, with a total of 12 meg across a 175 volt source. The meter should read 175 x (10/12), which works out (by Ohm's law) to about 145 volts. At least, that's the answer I get :>) I think if you were to spend some time to become familiar with and comfortable with Ohm's Law, you soon will find that the answers to questions such as this will become intuitive. Or to put it another way, you will simply have an "Aha!" moment, and the veils will come off. Hoping this helps, Gordon Richmond Article: 323704 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: foxtrot Subject: Re: Need source for Atwater Kent dial bezel Message-ID: References: Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 23:33:56 GMT It definitely is a problem that the model number is on the bezel. I will probably have to take what I can find and not worry about the model number on the bezel. anything is better than none at all. On Sat, 8 Oct 2005 19:59:06 -0400, "Mark Oppat" wrote: >one of the problems here is AK often put the model # right on the bezel!!! > >Mark Oppat > > >"foxtrot" wrote in message >news:c8kgk11830dm176qov6d44aiu3sdjcf55c@4ax.com... >> >> >> I have an AK 735 table model Atwater Kent that is missing the round >> dial bezel, glass, and dial pointers. I especially need that brass >> dial bezel. A similar bezel was used on model 206, model 145, 225, >> 356, 465, and many other models both floor and table models. The >> inside diameter of this bezel is about 3 inches. The pointer is just >> a single black piece that has a screw hole in the center. >> >> Go to the following website to see the radio: >> http://www.homestead.com/schehrer3/ >> >> >> > > Article: 323705 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Need source for Atwater Kent dial bezel Message-ID: Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 19:48:59 -0400 "foxtrot" wrote in message news:nplgk1dkssi8n8t997bblj6q11ai6477tu@4ax.com... > It definitely is a problem that the model number is on the bezel. I > will probably have to take what I can find and not worry about the > model number on the bezel. anything is better than none at all. > Looking at the smaller AK tombstones in my shop, none have of them have model numbers showing on the bezel. I do see two distinct variations, one has Atwater Kent name stamped into the metal, the other style is plain and free of lettering. The larger AK sets--like the AK447 do have the model number embossed on their bezels. I'd think any of the numbers you mentioned would work. Pete Article: 323706 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128798828.941874.151130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <434857EA.1AB2EE7@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: WTB: DEAD 6 pin tubes Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 00:17:37 GMT I've got at least one or two of his tubes maybe (6B5 and a 78 from my dead Silvertone chassis) but they said at the music store that the guy who could rescue the sockets wouldn't be in for three weeks. "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:434857EA.1AB2EE7@earthlink.net... > Jim Strickland wrote: > > > > I'm looking for a couple *dead* six pin tubes (or six pin plugs that > > fit in the tube sockets would work too). I don't want live tubes, as I > > only want the bases and don't want to destroy good working tubes. > > Mercury vapor tubes need not apply, either, that's just stuff I don't > > need to breathe. Does anyone have any in their junk box they'd be > > willing to part with? > > > > -Jim > > > Wire Pro, Inc. http://www.wpi-interconnect.com/ bought that connector > line from Amphenol and still make them with their part number 86-CP-6. > They are made by the Salem division in Salem NJ. > > The plugs are "CP" series, and the sockets are "S" series. You can > download their PDF catalog: > > and find them on page 27 & 29. They still make several different types > of hoods for these connectors, and other tube sockets. > > http://www.wpi-interconnect.com/distrib.htm is a page of links to > their distributors. > > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 323707 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128778889.674834.300190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128791415.385769.117220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1128812809.191340.40780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is this worth the buy it now? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 00:21:38 GMT I have no concerns with that. I didn't have 10.35 though and he was accomodating enough to offer USPS. Of course, I'm possibly eating it as I think I misread but Hell, 4.50 total if I win isn't a big deal and I might find a "Prize" in the Crackerjack box, so? "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1128812809.191340.40780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Steve, > > Do you think people on Ebay are price gouging when it comes to > shipping, handling, and insurance? Nahhhhhhhh, it's the great > American way. I just bought a Philco tabletop from a person about 100 > miles from my home. Debated whether to pick it up or not, but with gas > the way it is, shipping was a better option. That was before the > auction end. After the end he wanted over 35 bux to ship it. I said > OK but to provide proof on the shipping label as well. No > communication for a week from him. A week after the price was requoted > at around 20. Interesting, huh? > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > "RadioGary" wrote in message > > news:1128791415.385769.117220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > > > Well, don't think I lost really. One fifty for that radio plus this > > > guys boxing and such? There'll be others. > > > > > > GB > > > > Exactly. I just got done dealing with a guy selling Sams who wanted over $10 > > for shipping when a $3.50 Media Mail would be FINE. He worried it wouldn't > > be pretty enough when it arrived (sounded more like a blind date argument to > > me)... > > > > > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > > > You snooze, you lose. More hashbrowns at IHOP. > > > > > > > > "RadioGary" wrote in message > > > > news:1128778889.674834.300190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > > > Oh well, that's one hundred fifty bucks I have to spend on another > > > > > radio. I don't think it would have been a good project for me. I'm > > > > > not a cabinet refinisher anyway. > > > > > > > > > > Probably someone who watches these newsgroups, LOL. As Jackie Gleason > > > > > once said, I HAVE A BIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGG MOUTHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. > > > > > > > > > > John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > > > > > > In article <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > > > > > > n9vu@yahoo.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Love Zeniths. This looks good with the exception of the cabinet > > wear. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ZENITH-7D229-Tombstone-Radio-1937-BC-SW-7-Tubes-7-D-229 > > > > _W > > > > > > 0QQitemZ6566780108QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I posted a picture on the binaries of this model Zenith.. well > > actually > > > > > > a 6s229 ... same cabinet... one that had the photofinish on it > > totally > > > > messed > > > > > > up like this one... the wood under that ugly photofinish is really > > > > nice.. > > > > > > > > > > > > The picture posted was of one that Joe at Maji Net did... I also > > have > > > > > > done a couple of them the same way and they came out at least as > > nice > > > > > > as the one Joe did.... > > > > > > > > > > > > I see someone already banged the buy it now button.. > > > > > > > > > > > > John k9uwa > > > > > > > > > Article: 323708 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Offshore pharmacies Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 18:25:57 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1128625583.686533.23190@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1128631699.805706.129280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Bill" wrote in message news:a35f4$4348405a$4232bd4b$3446@COQUI.NET... > xrongor wrote: > > >> >> >> you dont even have a clue how a co-op works do you. >> >> randy > Apparently not. sry. i didnt mean to come off so harsh. i just think you're underestimating the power of them if you think the price would only drop >from say 50 to 40$. i mean we're not talking about anything specific so numbers are hard to throw out, but give me the power of 10,000 people to find cheaper drugs and i think i could do much better than 20% off. randy Article: 323709 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128625583.686533.23190@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1128631699.805706.129280@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Offshore pharmacies Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 00:26:56 GMT Good luck. It has never worked for gasoline. "xrongor" wrote in message news:di9nuj$drbt$1@news3.infoave.net... > > "Bill" wrote in message > news:a35f4$4348405a$4232bd4b$3446@COQUI.NET... > > xrongor wrote: > > > > > >> > >> > >> you dont even have a clue how a co-op works do you. > >> > >> randy > > Apparently not. > > sry. i didnt mean to come off so harsh. i just think you're > underestimating the power of them if you think the price would only drop > from say 50 to 40$. i mean we're not talking about anything specific so > numbers are hard to throw out, but give me the power of 10,000 people to > find cheaper drugs and i think i could do much better than 20% off. > > randy > > Article: 323710 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 20:32:25 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: WTB: DEAD 6 pin tubes References: <1128798828.941874.151130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <434857EA.1AB2EE7@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <4572e$4348651a$4232be5e$22943@COQUI.NET> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Jim Strickland wrote: > >>I'm looking for a couple *dead* six pin tubes (or six pin plugs that >>fit in the tube sockets would work too). I don't want live tubes, as I >>only want the bases and don't want to destroy good working tubes. >>Mercury vapor tubes need not apply, either, that's just stuff I don't >>need to breathe. Does anyone have any in their junk box they'd be >>willing to part with? >> >>-Jim > > > > Wire Pro, Inc. http://www.wpi-interconnect.com/ bought that connector > line from Amphenol and still make them with their part number 86-CP-6. > They are made by the Salem division in Salem NJ. > > The plugs are "CP" series, and the sockets are "S" series. You can > download their PDF catalog: > > and find them on page 27 & 29. They still make several different types > of hoods for these connectors, and other tube sockets. > > http://www.wpi-interconnect.com/distrib.htm is a page of links to > their distributors. > RadioDaze sells those and has the best price on the net. They retail for about as much as many NOS 6-pin tubes, though. -Bill Article: 323711 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 20:35:29 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Hallicrafters S-40 BFO Quit Oscillating References: Message-ID: <42397$434865d2$4232be5e$22943@COQUI.NET> Theresa McCarty wrote: > I've got the Sam's and the Hally Manual with pix and schem. > I've got voltages and resistances to check against the Sam's. > I did replace a 10K R off the 6F6 [6F6 gets hot]... with a 13.6 K but, > hey the old resistor was like into 100s of K. > Anyway, I thought someone might suggest a 'frequent' solution. Was it working before, Jimmy? It may be oscillating but off freq. If its more than 5-10kc out of kilter you'll never know its working by listening to the radio. -Bill Article: 323712 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128803740.820832.314100@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128818022.550929.8550@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Voltage/resistance ques. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 00:37:57 GMT Lee said my GB wasn't all that bad for what I want to do with it (the TV repairman who helps me). My Eico wasn't working at all and the Heathkit is lousy in one aspect, so? "frenchy" wrote in message news:1128818022.550929.8550@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > This is being measured with the mike unplugged. > > I think I'm getting it now, the internal meter resistance is a bigger > factor the lower the current is being measured. > I have two meters, a Triplett 9020 and a cheapy GB brand one. I did > notice the Triplett gave a bit higher readings but still about 50% of > what should be. Don't know the internal resistance of either... but > when I set the GB one to voltage reading, and then measure the ohms > across it's leads with the Triplett, I get 1 meg. So this means the > internal resistance of the GB is 1 meg, right? Sooooo - 175v x (1 meg > internal / 3 meg total) = 58v, about what I'm reading. So I don't > really have a problem after all? > I think I'll poke around and try to find out what the internal > resistance of this Triplett is supposed to be. > Now I have to figure out why I have 130v up top instead of 100v, maybe > it's just some resistors off value up there. > Thanks! Hey, whaddaya know, I learned something! > Frenchy > Article: 323713 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128798828.941874.151130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <434857EA.1AB2EE7@earthlink.net> <4572e$4348651a$4232be5e$22943@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: WTB: DEAD 6 pin tubes Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 00:39:06 GMT I have two, if I could get them out, and a drive to Boise is out right now. "Bill" wrote in message news:4572e$4348651a$4232be5e$22943@COQUI.NET... > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > > Jim Strickland wrote: > > > >>I'm looking for a couple *dead* six pin tubes (or six pin plugs that > >>fit in the tube sockets would work too). I don't want live tubes, as I > >>only want the bases and don't want to destroy good working tubes. > >>Mercury vapor tubes need not apply, either, that's just stuff I don't > >>need to breathe. Does anyone have any in their junk box they'd be > >>willing to part with? > >> > >>-Jim > > > > > > > > Wire Pro, Inc. http://www.wpi-interconnect.com/ bought that connector > > line from Amphenol and still make them with their part number 86-CP-6. > > They are made by the Salem division in Salem NJ. > > > > The plugs are "CP" series, and the sockets are "S" series. You can > > download their PDF catalog: > > > > and find them on page 27 & 29. They still make several different types > > of hoods for these connectors, and other tube sockets. > > > > http://www.wpi-interconnect.com/distrib.htm is a page of links to > > their distributors. > > > > RadioDaze sells those and has the best price on the net. They retail > for about as much as many NOS 6-pin tubes, though. > > -Bill Article: 323714 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Voltage/resistance ques. From: "Haggis" telus.net> References: <1128803740.820832.314100@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1qednQW1JfKx0tXeRVn-gQ@rogers.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 00:44:59 GMT On 8-Oct-2005, "Engineer" wrote: snip> I would suggest you learn Ohms law and Thevenin's theorem and you > will never have any problems again, or at least good forensic tools. > Cheers, > Roger Roger, I need help (you knew that, right :-). Please drop me a line at home when you get a chance (lost your email addy). Haggis. Article: 323715 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" Subject: OT: Numechron Tymeter television clock lamps Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 00:47:33 GMT I picked up a Numechron television-styled clock, 1967 vintage. I needs two lamps, 120V 3.5W C7 base. I tried a C4 bulb, but the bulb envelope is too long. Does anyone have an idea what bulb I need and where to get two? Article: 323716 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Crazy George" References: <1127595696.26394af8e834cf36b953e212c350d598@teranews> <1128266452.ba8a72834346c4ba5a27aa7cb391b11b@teranews> <1128748755.525a4c5a036af534ec42e650346a7046@teranews> Subject: Re: HP 432A RF power meter Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 20:03:00 -0500 Message-ID: <43486fc8_1@news1.prserv.net> William: The $12,000 price is as bogus as some of the experts on here. The 432A is long since obsolete, and HP has a way to wean stupids from specifying and buying obsolete instruments. The final year of production of a given instrument, they double the price. Each year after that, another multiplier is used, until even the lazy government bureaucrats will go to the trouble of finding a proper replacement instead of ordering the same box they have been specifying for 10 years. Examination of any set of consecutive HP/Agilent catalogs reveals this not so subtle effort. -- Crazy George W5VPQ My real address is my ham call ARRL.NET The ATTGlobal is a SPAM trap. "william_b_noble" wrote in message news:1128748755.525a4c5a036af534ec42e650346a7046@teranews... > I've now listed the second (and last) of these meters - I looked on the > Aligent web site, it says this thing costs $12,032 - that's a pretty > expensive meter, no? wonder what makes it so pricey? anyway, the buy it > now is a tiny fraction of that price - > > Article: 323717 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Theresa McCarty" References: <42397$434865d2$4232be5e$22943@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Hallicrafters S-40 BFO Quit Oscillating Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 21:15:08 -0400 Message-ID: Yah, 'twas working before. but, hey, I coulda screwed up one of the IF cans while 'aligning' or even seeing if one of them was the 'bfo coil'. I've maxed out the pitch slug in both directions and changed multiple tubes.... ya know, I have noticed a mild, close-up 'plastic off-gassing' smell that ain't transformer smell, but have attributed the source to a 'fresh' metal 6F6. No sources or smell under chassis. I figure I've got EVERYTHING on hand for this Hally. "Bill" wrote in message news:42397$434865d2$4232be5e$22943@COQUI.NET... > Theresa McCarty wrote: > >> I've got the Sam's and the Hally Manual with pix and schem. >> I've got voltages and resistances to check against the Sam's. >> I did replace a 10K R off the 6F6 [6F6 gets hot]... with a 13.6 K >> but, hey the old resistor was like into 100s of K. >> Anyway, I thought someone might suggest a 'frequent' solution. > > Was it working before, Jimmy? It may be oscillating but off freq. If its > more than 5-10kc out of kilter you'll never know its working by listening > to the radio. > > -Bill Article: 323718 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Saul Rabinowitz Subject: Re: speaker reconing References: <11kamu1mmquj950@news.supernews.com> <3qydnbwdAuIdi9veRVn-qg@comcast.com> <1128690020.694016.319320@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1b-dnSWMeP0wNtveRVn-vA@comcast.com> <4346f05b$0$179$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Message-ID: <0j_1f.1669$Aw.30525@typhoon.sonic.net> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 01:24:12 GMT Mark Oppat wrote: > However, if you're > >>inclined to take this job to a professional, I endorse Saul's >>suggestion. A Brown Soun, in San Rafael, California, do superb work. >>About half their work is for rock musicians, who are always trashing >>their speakers. >> >>Bubba > > > > Most reconing shops only do musical inst. or PA speakers. They dont have > access to the smaller voice coil cones we need in radios. Also, most of the > cones available today are much heavier stock. > When I quit doing full reconing about 15 years ago, I sold all my old cone > stock to Jackson Speaker in Jackson, MI. A Brown Soun does excellent-quality audiophile-grade work. A friend has taken his large Advents to them on my advice, and also a pair of AR-3s. Their work has seemed perfect to me. They were originally recommended to me by an audiophile who is also a serious recordist of live classical music performances. I can recommend them totally. About the old-fashioned small-coil parts, I don't know. It's an interesting point. The best I can offer is to look them up and call them (San Rafael, California). On the other hand, it's always good to know about other people doing this. Speaker rebuilders seem to come and go, mostly go. So, does Jackson Speaker still do speaker repairs? And who else do we know of who does re-coning? Saul Article: 323719 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 21:24:45 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Hallicrafters S-40 BFO Quit Oscillating References: <42397$434865d2$4232be5e$22943@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <2b00b$4348715f$4232be5e$27181@COQUI.NET> Theresa McCarty wrote: > Yah, 'twas working before. but, hey, I coulda screwed up one of the IF > cans while 'aligning' or even seeing if one of them was the 'bfo coil'. > I've maxed out the pitch slug in both directions and changed multiple > tubes.... ya know, I have noticed a mild, close-up 'plastic off-gassing' > smell that ain't transformer smell, but have attributed the source to a > 'fresh' metal 6F6. No sources or smell under chassis. > I figure I've got EVERYTHING on hand for this Hally. Getting the IF freq out of whack would have the same effect. If it were me, I'd first confirm the IF frequency - you remember how to do that right? Tune in a station on a known frecuency and listen on a separate radio tuned ~455kc higher and see if you hear the local oscillator. Local oscillator freq minus known station freq = IF freq. You can also use the second radio to hear the BFO signal if its working. Listen in the range of the second harmonic, ie 910. If its reasonably closely coupled (eg a transistor radio in the cabinet :) you'll easily hear the BFO if its working. At the risk of stating the obvious, the pitch coil is the BFOs oscillator coil and determines its frequency. -Bill Article: 323720 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128803740.820832.314100@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128818022.550929.8550@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Voltage/resistance ques. Message-ID: <_t_1f.949$PA1.115194@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 01:35:54 GMT "Theresa McCarty" wrote in message news:JdudnWcbE8E78tXeRVn-qQ@qx.net... > Ain't eBay equipment grand? I went out trying to buy a decent signal generator there several times, even found one supposed in proper shape, operated regularly by an amateur operator, but you can't get my kind of price of them...I gave up and I'll settle for an alignment tool to realign the tuning on some nice bland SS table sets and a receiver and wing it on a couple known frequencies for both bands. At least I didn't spend more than $5 a set. Now, since I still have over $200 in bills and I'm broke from a move, any spare one for a donation would be nice. I won't get the Philco refinished this year either. I have got to find a template for a good calendar too, as I am 1/2 way into supplies and at 3-4 dollars a copy I might catch up at say 120 copies. I think I found a nicer way this year and a lot better looking. I see rain and thank goodness the roof is FINISHED : ))) later... Article: 323721 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: user@domain.invalid Subject: Re: Is this worth the buy it now? Date: 08 Oct 2005 21:40:18 EDT Message-ID: <43487603.8020509@domain.invalid> References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128778889.674834.300190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128791415.385769.117220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1128812809.191340.40780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Why do you think there are so many $1 auctions on eBay ? RadioGary wrote: > Steve, > > Do you think people on Ebay are price gouging when it comes to > shipping, handling, and insurance? Nahhhhhhhh, it's the great > American way. I just bought a Philco tabletop from a person about 100 > miles from my home. Debated whether to pick it up or not, but with gas > the way it is, shipping was a better option. That was before the > auction end. After the end he wanted over 35 bux to ship it. I said > OK but to provide proof on the shipping label as well. No > communication for a week from him. A week after the price was requoted > at around 20. Interesting, huh? > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > >>"RadioGary" wrote in message >>news:1128791415.385769.117220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... >> >>>Well, don't think I lost really. One fifty for that radio plus this >>>guys boxing and such? There'll be others. >>> >>>GB >> >>Exactly. I just got done dealing with a guy selling Sams who wanted over $10 >>for shipping when a $3.50 Media Mail would be FINE. He worried it wouldn't >>be pretty enough when it arrived (sounded more like a blind date argument to >>me)... >> >> >>>Steven Dinius_ wrote: >>> >>>>You snooze, you lose. More hashbrowns at IHOP. >>>> >>>>"RadioGary" wrote in message >>>>news:1128778889.674834.300190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >>>> >>>>>Oh well, that's one hundred fifty bucks I have to spend on another >>>>>radio. I don't think it would have been a good project for me. I'm >>>>>not a cabinet refinisher anyway. >>>>> >>>>>Probably someone who watches these newsgroups, LOL. As Jackie Gleason >>>>>once said, I HAVE A BIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGG MOUTHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. >>>>> >>>>>John Goller, k9uwa wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>In article <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, >>>>>>n9vu@yahoo.com says... >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Love Zeniths. This looks good with the exception of the cabinet >> >>wear. >> >>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ZENITH-7D229-Tombstone-Radio-1937-BC-SW-7-Tubes-7-D-229 >>> >>>>_W >>>> >>>>>>0QQitemZ6566780108QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >>>>>> >>>>>>I posted a picture on the binaries of this model Zenith.. well >> >>actually >> >>>>>>a 6s229 ... same cabinet... one that had the photofinish on it >> >>totally >> >>>>messed >>>> >>>>>>up like this one... the wood under that ugly photofinish is really >>>> >>>>nice.. >>>> >>>>>>The picture posted was of one that Joe at Maji Net did... I also >> >>have >> >>>>>>done a couple of them the same way and they came out at least as >> >>nice >> >>>>>>as the one Joe did.... >>>>>> >>>>>>I see someone already banged the buy it now button.. >>>>>> >>>>>>John k9uwa >>>>> > Article: 323722 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 21:47:43 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: OT: Numechron Tymeter television clock lamps References: Message-ID: <965e8$434876c0$4232be5e$27636@COQUI.NET> Robert Murrell wrote: > I picked up a Numechron television-styled clock, 1967 vintage. I needs two > lamps, 120V 3.5W C7 base. I tried a C4 bulb, but the bulb envelope is too > long. Does anyone have an idea what bulb I need and where to get two? > > Bayonet or candelabra base? C7 is the bulb type. Anyway, check here. http://www.servicelighting.com http://www.atlantalightbulbs.com GL, Bill Article: 323723 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: foxtrot Subject: Re: Need source for Atwater Kent dial bezel Message-ID: References: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 02:08:44 GMT On Sat, 8 Oct 2005 19:48:59 -0400, " Uncle Peter" wrote: > >"foxtrot" wrote in message >news:nplgk1dkssi8n8t997bblj6q11ai6477tu@4ax.com... >> It definitely is a problem that the model number is on the bezel. I >> will probably have to take what I can find and not worry about the >> model number on the bezel. anything is better than none at all. >> > >Looking at the smaller AK tombstones in my shop, >none have of them have model numbers showing on >the bezel. I do see two distinct variations, one has >Atwater Kent name stamped into the metal, the other >style is plain and free of lettering. > >The larger AK sets--like the AK447 do have the model number >embossed on their bezels. I'd think any of the numbers you mentioned >would work. > > >Pete > Pete A friend of mine has a blank one off of an old battery set. The question is if it is the same diameter. I am looking at a Bunis volume 2 and there are several there with round dials and at least some or all of those have model numbers on the bezel. Can you tell what diameter those are on the ones that you have? Are they the same size as the ones with numbers? John Article: 323724 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" References: <965e8$434876c0$4232be5e$27636@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: OT: Numechron Tymeter television clock lamps Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 02:57:38 GMT Perhaps I should have written "C7-style screw base". What bulbs have that size screw base but are shorter than a C7? Does this size base have a type or trade name that I can reference? Or what is the part number and manufacturer of the bulb that goes into this clock, so I can cross-reference it. I've been to many lamp sites, but they offer style names of bulbs and tiny pictures with no size reference, including the two you have provided. "Bill" wrote in message news:965e8$434876c0$4232be5e$27636@COQUI.NET... > Robert Murrell wrote: > >> I picked up a Numechron television-styled clock, 1967 vintage. I needs >> two lamps, 120V 3.5W C7 base. I tried a C4 bulb, but the bulb envelope >> is too long. Does anyone have an idea what bulb I need and where to get >> two? > > Bayonet or candelabra base? C7 is the bulb type. > > Anyway, check here. > http://www.servicelighting.com > > http://www.atlantalightbulbs.com > > GL, > Bill Article: 323725 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Lyndell Scott" References: <6qZ1f.11989$q1.9943@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Looking for RCA 811K Items Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 03:26:35 GMT You can make a key by finding a nail of the correct size to fit the holes then file a flat on the end to fit the slots. Can't help you with the remote...have restored two 811Ks and have a third waiting, but have never seen a remote except for a photo. Should not be that difficult to construct one, however. Article: 323726 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: speaker reconing From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <11kamu1mmquj950@news.supernews.com> <3qydnbwdAuIdi9veRVn-qg@comcast.com> <1128690020.694016.319320@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1b-dnSWMeP0wNtveRVn-vA@comcast.com> <4346f05b$0$179$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <0j_1f.1669$Aw.30525@typhoon.sonic.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 03:40:28 GMT In article <0j_1f.1669$Aw.30525@typhoon.sonic.net>, luftmensh@notreal.com says... > > >So, does >Jackson Speaker still do speaker repairs? > >And who else do we know of who does re-coning? > >Saul Yup Jackson Speaker is still in business.... pumping out speakers.. I have a guy in Ft Wayne that does it also... Speaker Workshop Tom Colvin email addy is shop at recone dot com 1707 N Harrison St., Ft Wayne, IN 46808 Tom's prices are about the same as Jackson and the rest of them... and in my case... no shipping costs.... he does a good job for us! Also if you go to Recone.com it brings up a map of the World plus USA.... click on applicable portion of world your interested in and follow it on down to reconers that are in your area.... now all of these guys are not necessarily into rebuild our antique radio speakers... some are late stuff only ... John k9uwa Article: 323727 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Crazy George" References: Subject: Re: Numechron Tymeter television clock lamps Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 22:48:33 -0500 Message-ID: <434896a5_1@news1.prserv.net> Robert: Your terminology is a little (actually a lot) confusing. If a 4C7/120V doesn't fit, then apparently what you are looking for are 3S6/120V bulbs. I have found them at hardware (Ace, True Value) stores, as well as Home Improvement stores. I used to buy stuff like that at GE Supply until they got uppity and stopped selling small quantities. The C indicates a Candelabra shaped envelope, and the number is eighths of an inch in diameter. The 4C7 is thus a 4 watt, 7/8" in diameter, and a C4 would be 1/2", except I can't find any 120 volt 1/2" diameter C shaped lamps in any of my old catalogs. What C4 lamp do you have? The S6 is shaped like an old style 27 or 45 tube which has a S envelope also. For further information, the C7 (Christmas and night light) bulb is 2.125" overall, while the 3S6 is 1.875", as is the 6T4½, but that is available only as a 6 watt lamp. -- Crazy George W5VPQ My real address is my ham call ARRL.NET The ATTGlobal is a SPAM trap. "Robert Murrell" wrote in message news:FMZ1f.1651$Si4.1253@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... > I picked up a Numechron television-styled clock, 1967 vintage. I needs two > lamps, 120V 3.5W C7 base. I tried a C4 bulb, but the bulb envelope is too > long. Does anyone have an idea what bulb I need and where to get two? > > Article: 323728 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 00:01:12 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: OT: Numechron Tymeter television clock lamps References: <965e8$434876c0$4232be5e$27636@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Robert Murrell wrote: > Perhaps I should have written "C7-style screw base". What bulbs have that > size screw base but are shorter than a C7? Does this size base have a type > or trade name that I can reference? Or what is the part number and > manufacturer of the bulb that goes into this clock, so I can cross-reference > it. I've been to many lamp sites, but they offer style names of bulbs and > tiny pictures with no size reference, including the two you have provided. That base is pretty common but I really don't don't know any other name than candelabra. If its the same candelabra thats on typical C7 bulbs I think they will be uniform. Its also referred to as ANSI E-12 Check p/n AL03794 at Service. Its a 120v, C7, 4W, candelabra base. Won't fit? On bulb numbering a C-7 would be larger than a C-6 for example. The number refers to the bulb diameter in 1/8ths of an inch. Since the overall shape is the same on the C-series a C-6 would be smaller in both dimensions. I don't see any of them at Service Lighting, don't even know if they make a C-6 since C-7 seems to the the standard size. Have you found the Damar website? They don't sell retail but might be a good reference to pinning this down to a number. Pick thru here...searching for C7 may be the gotcha. http://www.damarww.com/subcategory.asp?sub=51 GL, Bill Article: 323729 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: Numechron Tymeter television clock lamps From: Wayne Boatwright References: Message-ID: Date: 9 Oct 2005 07:31:04 +0200 On Sat 08 Oct 2005 05:47:33p, Robert Murrell wrote in rec.antiques.radio+phono: > I picked up a Numechron television-styled clock, 1967 vintage. I needs > two lamps, 120V 3.5W C7 base. I tried a C4 bulb, but the bulb envelope > is too long. Does anyone have an idea what bulb I need and where to get > two? Check this one out. It might just work... http://www.topbulb.com/find/Product_Description.asp?intProductID=41823 -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* _____________________________ http://tinypic.com/dzijap.jpg Popie-In-The-Bowl Article: 323730 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Is this worth the buy it now? Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 23:41:14 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128778889.674834.300190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128791415.385769.117220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1128812809.191340.40780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43487603.8020509@domain.invalid> same reason bush is president. randy > Why do you think there are so many $1 auctions on eBay ? Article: 323731 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Is this worth the buy it now? Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 22:24:48 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > In article <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > n9vu@yahoo.com says... > >> >>Love Zeniths. This looks good with the exception of the cabinet wear. >> >>http://cgi.ebay.com/ZENITH-7D229-Tombstone-Radio-1937-BC-SW-7-Tubes-7-D-229_W > > 0QQitemZ6566780108QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > I posted a picture on the binaries of this model Zenith.. well actually > a 6s229 ... same cabinet... one that had the photofinish on it totally messed > up like this one... the wood under that ugly photofinish is really nice.. > > The picture posted was of one that Joe at Maji Net did... I also have > done a couple of them the same way and they came out at least as nice > as the one Joe did.... > > I see someone already banged the buy it now button.. > > John k9uwa > Just to put things in perspective, I recent bought an auction lot of three (!) of the Zenith six tubers that John mentioned, IIRC it was something like $50.00 for the lot. At least two out of the three are restorable except for that damn photo finish. If there really is decent wood under there I will just go that route and originality be damned. It's not like the fake finish makes it easier on the eyes anyway. $150.00 for the ebay set seems a tad high to me, but I'm a cheap bastard, so my opinion doesn't count :-). Somebody must have thought it was worth it as the buy it now option has been exercised. For some people, the roundness of the dial adds $50.00 to the value and and the blackness of the dial adds another $50.00 :-) :-) -Scott Article: 323732 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Voltage/resistance ques. Date: Sat, 8 Oct 2005 23:46:40 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1128803740.820832.314100@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> heres a simple way to help you with ohms law. think of the vulture, the indian, and the rabbit. rabbits and indians dont fly. vultures do. put the vulture on top of the indian and the rabbit. V IR if you want to find voltage, cover the V. V=I*R if you want to find current cover the I. I=V/R if you want to find resistance cover the R. R=V/I randy Article: 323733 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: now HERE'S a beauty! Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 22:31:15 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1_idnYWVJdFY5treRVn-hQ@comcast.com> Mark Oppat wrote: > check this gem! what styling! > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Antique-Radio-Unusual-Old-Dial-Swedish_W0QQitemZ5815339513QQcategoryZ50595QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Mark Oppat > > > "The wooden case may be hand made, but if so it was nicely done." Rollingonthefloorlaughingmyassoff! That trapezoidal cabinet is amazing. Is that how they do it in Sweden? -Scott Article: 323734 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128778889.674834.300190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128791415.385769.117220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1128812809.191340.40780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43487603.8020509@domain.invalid> Subject: Re: Is this worth the buy it now? Message-ID: <4h62f.960$PA1.117118@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 10:28:16 GMT We WEREN'T that broke before him, you realize... "xrongor" wrote in message news:diaacp$e4ha$1@news3.infoave.net... > same reason bush is president. > > randy > > > Why do you think there are so many $1 auctions on eBay ? > > Article: 323735 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Need source for Atwater Kent dial bezel Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 08:17:38 -0400 "foxtrot" wrote in message > A friend of mine has a blank one off of an old battery set. The > question is if it is the same diameter. I am looking at a Bunis > volume 2 and there are several there with round dials and at least > some or all of those have model numbers on the bezel. Can you tell > what diameter those are on the ones that you have? Are they the same > size as the ones with numbers? > > John I haven't seen any with numbers so far... But if they passed through for repair I probably didn't have them long enough to remember those details. The two AKs in the shop are a 325 console and a 545 tombstone, both have the 3" inside diameter round bezels. Looking at RadioAttticArchives.com it looks like the 856, 317, and several other models used similar bezels. Have you tried Mike Koste at Gobs of Knobs? That part should be fairly easy to find, especially if you're overly picky about the trim detailing on the bezel. Pete Article: 323736 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" References: <434896a5_1@news1.prserv.net> Subject: Re: Numechron Tymeter television clock lamps Message-ID: <6Z72f.2$j66.0@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 12:23:30 GMT Thanks, this is the information I was trying to ask for. I don't know little about light bulb terminology. My "terminology" was based on the information I was getting from the "Made in China" packaging. I have a local lighting supply company that carries every bulb that I have ever needed. I based the 3 1/2 watt size on the tag on the bottom of the clock, "3.7 Watt, with lights 10.7 Watts". "Crazy George" wrote in message news:434896a5_1@news1.prserv.net... > Robert: > > Your terminology is a little (actually a lot) confusing. If a 4C7/120V > doesn't fit, then apparently what you are looking for are 3S6/120V bulbs. > I > have found them at hardware (Ace, True Value) stores, as well as Home > Improvement stores. I used to buy stuff like that at GE Supply until they > got uppity and stopped selling small quantities. > > The C indicates a Candelabra shaped envelope, and the number is eighths of > an inch in diameter. The 4C7 is thus a 4 watt, 7/8" in diameter, and a C4 > would be 1/2", except I can't find any 120 volt 1/2" diameter C shaped > lamps > in any of my old catalogs. What C4 lamp do you have? The S6 is shaped > like > an old style 27 or 45 tube which has a S envelope also. > > For further information, the C7 (Christmas and night light) bulb is 2.125" > overall, while the 3S6 is 1.875", as is the 6T4½, but that is available > only > as a 6 watt lamp. > -- > Crazy George > W5VPQ > My real address is my ham call ARRL.NET The ATTGlobal is a SPAM trap. > "Robert Murrell" wrote in message > news:FMZ1f.1651$Si4.1253@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com... >> I picked up a Numechron television-styled clock, 1967 vintage. I needs > two >> lamps, 120V 3.5W C7 base. I tried a C4 bulb, but the bulb envelope is >> too >> long. Does anyone have an idea what bulb I need and where to get two? >> >> > > Article: 323737 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" References: Subject: Re: OT: Numechron Tymeter television clock lamps Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 12:26:59 GMT Thanks, this is probably what I am looking for. "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message news:Xns96E9E3CFB4F8Fwaynesgang@217.22.228.19... > On Sat 08 Oct 2005 05:47:33p, Robert Murrell wrote in > rec.antiques.radio+phono: > >> I picked up a Numechron television-styled clock, 1967 vintage. I needs >> two lamps, 120V 3.5W C7 base. I tried a C4 bulb, but the bulb envelope >> is too long. Does anyone have an idea what bulb I need and where to get >> two? > > Check this one out. It might just work... > > http://www.topbulb.com/find/Product_Description.asp?intProductID=41823 > > -- > Wayne Boatwright *¿* > _____________________________ > > http://tinypic.com/dzijap.jpg > > Popie-In-The-Bowl Article: 323738 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Frank Dresser" References: Subject: Re: Need alignment instructions: Hallicrafters S-107 MK II Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 12:57:46 GMT "Jon" wrote in message news:B8Y1f.33476$7b6.29439@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > I have my Hallicrafters S-107 on the bench and need the alignment > instructions. BAMA doesn't have them. Anyone got a copy? > > -- > Jon Scaptura > Endicott, NY > I think the S-107 is an updated S-53A. If you don't get the S-107 instructions, take a look at the S-53A instructions. If the S-107 is anything like the S-53A, don't expect good sensitivity on the 6 meter band or much image rejection on any band. Frank Dresser Article: 323739 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Holler for Goller.......... Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 09:19:44 -0400 Message-ID: <11ki67jihfg8ce@corp.supernews.com> http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-RCA-VECTOR-MODEL-19K-ANTIQUE-RADIO-PLAYER_W0QQitemZ6566727643QQcategoryZ38033QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem John H. Article: 323740 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Need source for Atwater Kent dial bezel Message-ID: Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 09:26:12 -0400 " Uncle Peter" wrote in message > if you're overly picky about the trim detailing on the bezel. > > Pete > > NOT overly picky about..... Article: 323741 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: HERE'S THE SPEAKER FOR THAT STROMBERG 240 SOMEONE BOUGHT Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 09:35:51 -0400 Message-ID: <11ki75trlfqsa6b@corp.supernews.com> http://cgi.ebay.com/STROMBERG-CARLSON-POWER-DYNAMIC-SPEAKER-12-1930S_W0QQitemZ6567904348QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem John H. Article: 323742 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Holler for Goller.......... From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <11ki67jihfg8ce@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 13:50:14 GMT In article <11ki67jihfg8ce@corp.supernews.com>, yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net says... > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-RCA-VECTOR-MODEL-19K-ANTIQUE-RADIO-PLAYER_W0QQite mZ6566727643QQcategoryZ38033QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > >John H. > Hi John... not me... that one is a whole lot uglier than two of them I have identical to it... think I have two cabinets and three chassis ... enough to build two radios I think... John Article: 323743 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: HERE'S THE SPEAKER FOR THAT STROMBERG 240 SOMEONE BOUGHT From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <11ki75trlfqsa6b@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <6f92f.228594$084.30987@attbi_s22> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 13:50:59 GMT In article <11ki75trlfqsa6b@corp.supernews.com>, yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net says... > > >http://cgi.ebay.com/STROMBERG-CARLSON-POWER-DYNAMIC-SPEAKER-12-1930S_W0QQitem Z6567904348QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > >John H. > Wasn't it one of the guys over in ILL that bought the Stromberg minus the speaker?.... John k9uwa Article: 323744 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Is this worth the buy it now? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 13:55:55 GMT In article , NOT_MY_REAL@email.com says... > > >Just to put things in perspective, I recent bought an auction lot of >three (!) of the Zenith six tubers that John mentioned, IIRC it was >something like $50.00 for the lot. At least two out of the three are >restorable except for that damn photo finish. > > >-Scott > Agree with Scott that the 150 was a tad high.... actually a bit more than the Tad... Scott at 50 bux for three got a great deal... and yes Scott... we have done three of these where Photo was beyond repair and all three of them ... the wood under the photo looks actually a whole lot nicer than a good photofinish... John k9uwa Article: 323745 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Is this worth the buy it now? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128778889.674834.300190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128791415.385769.117220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1128812809.191340.40780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43487603.8020509@domain.invalid> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 14:01:04 GMT In article , hacky@smackeycrackey.com says... > > >same reason bush is president. > >randy > >> Why do you think there are so many $1 auctions on eBay ? > > Randy U want to blame Bush for everything.... sounds like a one track mind or lack there of to me.. Interesting thought though on an auction for a buck.... and no I don't agree with guys gouging on shipping and "Handling" thats my one big bone with Antique Electronics Supply is their Handling Fee crap... But... think about this.... you put up your auction... in the auction you state..... "Handling Fee" on this item is $50.00 ... put it in big bold print and tell the bidders why.... this way you bid one buck on the item... thats actually well worth $51 ... and FleaBay only gets commission on the buck... not on the 50 ... John k9uwa Article: 323746 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Looking for EMPTY Tube Caddys From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: <1q92f.228683$084.181069@attbi_s22> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 14:02:37 GMT In article , philnelson@nospam.xyz says... > > >Check out some of the swap meets in your area: >http://www.antiqueradio.com/radioevents.html . Caddies go cheap and are >often left unsold. >Phil Nelson Hi Ben... think I took 4 empty caddies to Lansing last July.... sold all 4 of them... think they were 3 or 4 bucks each.... not much.. John k9uwa Article: 323747 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark Robinson" References: <6qZ1f.11989$q1.9943@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Looking for RCA 811K Items Message-ID: <9G92f.2325$Iq3.263@trndny01> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 14:19:49 GMT Hi Mark, I can send you a high res scan of an 811K magazine ad. e-mail me if you are interested. File size is 1.6 MB and is a jpg image. From Saturday Evening Post September 25, 1937. Mark "Mark S" wrote in message news:6qZ1f.11989$q1.9943@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net... > My favorite! Beautiful original radio from a small town auction. Had to > replace the antenna coil, the multitap power supply resistor and the usual > caps, but that was it. What a great radio! So I'm looking for a few things > to complete the 811K. It's missing its alignment key for the electric tuning > and boy I'd love to find the optional remote control box to one of these > things.......OK, ya'll can stop laughing now!! I would of course love to > have the original items but I'm also realistic. I would settle for a sketch > of the original key with some of the critical dimensions. I think I'm going > to build my own remote with an 8 position Switchcraft multiswitch; the ones > with the illuminated buttons; I'll let you know how that works out. > Thanks! > Mark > > Article: 323748 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: Numechron Tymeter television clock lamps From: Wayne Boatwright References: Message-ID: Date: 9 Oct 2005 16:40:12 +0200 You're welcome, hope it works out for you. You might be interested in this website about the manufacturer. Your clock, among others, is featured here. http://uv201.com/Clock_Pages/pennwood.htm On Sun 09 Oct 2005 05:26:59a, Robert Murrell wrote in rec.antiques.radio+phono: > Thanks, this is probably what I am looking for. > > "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message > news:Xns96E9E3CFB4F8Fwaynesgang@217.22.228.19... >> On Sat 08 Oct 2005 05:47:33p, Robert Murrell wrote in >> rec.antiques.radio+phono: >> >>> I picked up a Numechron television-styled clock, 1967 vintage. I >>> needs two lamps, 120V 3.5W C7 base. I tried a C4 bulb, but the bulb >>> envelope is too long. Does anyone have an idea what bulb I need and >>> where to get two? >> >> Check this one out. It might just work... >> >> http://www.topbulb.com/find/Product_Description.asp?intProductID=41823 >> >> -- >> Wayne Boatwright *¿* _____________________________ >> >> http://tinypic.com/dzijap.jpg >> >> Popie-In-The-Bowl > > > -- Wayne Boatwright *¿* _____________________________ http://tinypic.com/dzijap.jpg Popie-In-The-Bowl Article: 323749 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Murdock detector Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 09:43:26 -0600 Message-ID: <28256-43493A9E-856@storefull-3334.bay.webtv.net> I found a Murdock crystal set at a garage sale yesterday' It came with an extra tuning coil and a Murdock spark coil transmitter. The detector is missing the crystal holder and as far as I can tell from the few poor pictures that I can find on the net there appears to be some provision for moving the crystal under the cat whisker. If any one has a Murdock detector ( the type with the built in capacitor) I would appreciate a picture of or a good description of it. DON AC7PD From kawninja.at.nospam.cableone.dot.net Thu Oct 13 08:34:49 EDT 2005 Article: 323750 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve P." Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: WTB: Zenith 2000 knob insert Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 10:59:54 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <11kifjq8t4qmj9a@corp.supernews.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 12 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newshub.sdsu.edu!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.easynews.com!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-11!sn-xit-08!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:323750 Hi all, Looking for a tone knob insert for a Zenith 2000 AM/FM transistor radio. Bought one this weekend and, as usual, didn't notice it was missing until I got it home. Have a picture of the radio over at alt.binaries.pictures.radio under "My Weekend Finds" for reference. Thanks, Steve P. kawninja*at*cableone*dot*net - decipher accordingly Article: 323751 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Virtual Vintag Radios Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 08:49:54 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1128560909.512430.187320@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1h0fk1t877eg04o656u591ch2i88c78r8d@4ax.com> <4347e199$0$2526$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net> Martin wrote: > My employer had some prototype case parts made by a company > which fed the 3-D data into a type of epoxy resin in a machine > with two lasers. It cured where the beams met and produced a solid part. > Amazing! > Perhaps this was the photopolymer process Tim mentioned? > I'll try to find out more next week. > (Sorry if I've messed up the attributions by snipping.) > Martin (Stockport) > The process is called stereolithography, and yes, It is amazing. Imagine making perfect one-off parts and even whole cabinets without a mold and without even touching the work in progress. Amazing, but expensive. -Scott Article: 323752 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 12:15:40 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Murdock detector References: <28256-43493A9E-856@storefull-3334.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <19201$4349422e$4232bd6f$12247@COQUI.NET> Gridleak wrote: > I found a Murdock crystal set at a garage sale yesterday' It came with > an extra tuning coil and a Murdock spark coil transmitter. Wow Don, Great Luck! Got any lottery number picks you'd like to share? -Bill Article: 323753 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128778889.674834.300190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128791415.385769.117220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1128812809.191340.40780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43487603.8020509@domain.invalid> Subject: Re: Is this worth the buy it now? Message-ID: <2tb2f.970$PA1.118918@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 16:22:22 GMT "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:Ao92f.228669$084.227474@attbi_s22... > In article , hacky@smackeycrackey.com > says... > > > > > >same reason bush is president. > > > >randy > > > >> Why do you think there are so many $1 auctions on eBay ? > > > > > > Randy U want to blame Bush for everything.... sounds like a one > track mind or lack there of to me.. Bush banned the other seven tracks because they played Velvet Underground... Article: 323754 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Re: Murdock detector Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 10:39:13 -0600 Message-ID: <28258-434947B1-104@storefull-3334.bay.webtv.net> References: <19201$4349422e$4232bd6f$12247@COQUI.NET> Bill I didn't get it it cheap. But that kind of stuff you have to buy it when you see it. DON AC7PD Article: 323755 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Chris F." Subject: GE Military Transmitter & Receiver Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 16:59:53 GMT I have two old pieces of military equipment I'd like to try to restore. One is a transmitter model 4ETC6B3, and the other is the (matching) receiver, model 4ERC6B6. Does anyone have, or know where I could find, schematics for either of these units? The Transmitter uses a 6V dynamotor, and the receiver has a couple of vibrators. Both broadcast/receive in the 40-50MHz range. These were probably designed for field use. Article: 323756 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: Lenco GL75 motor spindle problems Date: 9 Oct 2005 12:09:02 -0500 Message-ID: <43494e69$0$227$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: <1128824720.299259.121800@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Omer Suleimanagich wrote: > Check out this site, there has to be a way to put that stuff back together! > > http://homepage.ntlworld.com/maddogmcq/myart/lencoheaven/ > Yes. Make sure to investigate the sites linked on this page to see examples and photos. Also, get onto the linked bulletin board and participate. I have worked on a few Lencos and have two of them. I think that your motor may be re-glued successfully, but you're going to need precise measurements from another motor in order to get the rotor into the precise position on the shaft (did you say that you have two of them?). Be very careful with the motor screws because they're set into pot metal which is easily stripped. And there's no way in hell that I can think of to rescue a problem with the upper motor due to the craziness of the casting. Lenco used two types of screws to hold the motor together -- machine screws, and incredible as this sounds, sheet metal screws. To work with 78s, you'll probably do a lot better with the original Lenco tonearm than with the Decca. Of course, you'll have to replace the tonearm's vertical bearings (they're _always_ shot). The Stanton 500/Pickering V15 is an excellent choice for 78s and even mono LPs. The Shure M97 is a fine cartridge (I'm not familiar with their latest Mexican stylus tweak that you mentioned). It was especially good with its original parabolic stylus. The Lenco tonearm can actually be a pretty decent arm when modified, but I'm not sure that I'd want to use it with a cartridge as compliant as the M97. That looks like your bid sitting on that motor in the UK, yes? I'm pretty sure that you're correct about the different motor shaft taper for the US and Canada versions, which could cause some idler wheel wobbling at one of the standard speeds. Good luck. Bubba Article: 323757 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: Subject: Re: Need alignment instructions: Hallicrafters S-107 MK II Message-ID: <6Sd2f.37449$7b6.20133@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 19:05:38 GMT "Frank Dresser" wrote in message news:et82f.399295$5N3.340489@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > I think the S-107 is an updated S-53A. If you don't get the S-107 > instructions, take a look at the S-53A instructions. If the S-107 is > anything like the S-53A, don't expect good sensitivity on the 6 meter band > or much image rejection on any band. > > Frank Dresser Looks pretty close - I'll give it a try. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 323758 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "David Austerman" Subject: WTB: Hickok tube tester *Lid* for 6000/600 series Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 19:24:14 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Hi, Need any lid for a Hickok 6000/600 series tester- all use same size lid. Any condition is OK. If you have a junker tester of this series that you want to sell the whole thing, I will buy the whole thing. Thanks,dave austerman -- Posted via Mailgate.ORG Server - http://www.Mailgate.ORG Article: 323759 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: Motorola Take Apart References: <1128842362.030368.203950@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 17:32:12 -0400 RadioGary wrote: > Hi Guys, > > It's winter project time in the great midwest. I'm attempting to > disassemble a Motorola 79XM21, pictured at > > http://radioatticarchives.com/images/m/Motorola_79XM21_Toppo.jpg > > She's working fine, but would like to get underside and recap it, make > it perfect. The problem is how do you get the chassis out completely? > It looks as though you have to remove the grill assembly in order the > clear the dial pointer mechanism. How in the world is this done? Has > anyone tackled this before? Is there any reference on how to > disassemble this set in particular somewhere? I'd appreciate a > knowledgable helping hand on this. Now I know why I like working on > consoles better . Thanks, GB. EMAIL is N9VU at yahoo dot com, > or just reply to subject here. > I can't believe that the capacitor shaft doesn't just disconnect from the dial. If it doesn't have a push on spline, then there must be a set screw someplace. I've seen knobs that have a top cover that pulls or prys off and then you have access to the set screws. Maybe that's the case here? Article: 323760 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: hamfest yesterday, passed up on old TO Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 17:39:59 -0400 Local hamfest free-flea yesterday. No old radios except for a sad looking sliderule dial TO that I passed up on because the case was in real bad shape. Most of the covering peeling off exposing bare wood. The chassis didn't look too bad, had all the tubes. (didn't notice if the wave magnet was missing). Seller wanted $20 for it. If the workroom didn't need going over with a 'white tornado' I might have picked it up. Just how bad would it have been to restore the cabinet? Article: 323761 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 17:56:18 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: hamfest yesterday, passed up on old TO References: Message-ID: Ken Scharf wrote: > Local hamfest free-flea yesterday. No old radios > except for a sad looking sliderule dial TO that I passed > up on because the case was in real bad shape. Most of the > covering peeling off exposing bare wood. The chassis didn't > look too bad, had all the tubes. > (didn't notice if the wave magnet was missing). > Seller wanted $20 for it. If the workroom didn't need > going over with a 'white tornado' I might have picked it up. > Just how bad would it have been to restore the cabinet? I saw one of those once where the guy finsihed off the bare wood - maybe he veneered it? and it looked really sharp. I'm sure that would be offensive to the TO fans but it really did look good. -Bill From kawninja.at.nospam.cableone.dot.net Thu Oct 13 08:34:52 EDT 2005 Article: 323762 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve P." Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: hamfest yesterday, passed up on old TO Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 17:13:32 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <11kj5gerh5ob980@corp.supernews.com> References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 20 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wns14feed!worldnet.att.net!199.45.49.37!cyclone1.gnilink.net!gnilink.net!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!140.99.99.194.MISMATCH!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:323762 Around here leatherette TOs are common at hamfests and they do sell. Usually see at least 2 or 3 in fair to good shape. Usually they're priced at $100 and up and if you try to dicker you get the old "this radio is so rare... you'll never see another one" speech. There's several folks here who have turned very bad TOs into masterpieces and I'm sure they will reply. Seems like recovering a TO would be a bear with all of those bends and creases, but from what I've seen it's well worth the work. Steve P. "Ken Scharf" wrote in message news:S4g2f.5895$Lp.4690@bignews5.bellsouth.net... > Local hamfest free-flea yesterday. No old radios > except for a sad looking sliderule dial TO that I passed > up on because the case was in real bad shape. Article: 323763 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Is this worth the buy it now? Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 16:49:08 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128778889.674834.300190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128791415.385769.117220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1128812809.191340.40780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43487603.8020509@domain.invalid> "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:Ao92f.228669$084.227474@attbi_s22... > In article , hacky@smackeycrackey.com > says... >> >> >>same reason bush is president. >> >>randy >> >>> Why do you think there are so many $1 auctions on eBay ? >> >> > > Randy U want to blame Bush for everything.... sounds like a one > track mind or lack there of to me.. > > Interesting thought though on an auction for a buck.... and no > I don't agree with guys gouging on shipping and "Handling" > thats my one big bone with Antique Electronics Supply is their > Handling Fee crap... > > But... think about this.... you put up your auction... in the auction > you state..... "Handling Fee" on this item is $50.00 ... put it in > big bold print and tell the bidders why.... this way you bid one > buck on the item... thats actually well worth $51 ... and FleaBay > only gets commission on the buck... not on the 50 ... im not blaming bush for anything in this thread. however voting for bush is pretty representative of having a one track mind, or lack there of to me. same as the people who cant add handling fees, shipping costs, and item cost, to come up with total cost. they see the handling fee, look no further, think about it no further, and say ripoff. people who voted for bush didnt think it through either. they bought into one or more of the republican mantras like 'democrats always raise taxes' and voted... randy Article: 323764 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128842362.030368.203950@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128896970.509795.95540@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Motorola Take Apart Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 22:47:43 GMT Now you missed having two... "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1128896970.509795.95540@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Ken, > > Amazingly enough, I happened to be a flea market today and saw the same > exact model of radio with NO dial pointer. Looking closely I noticed > that the dial pointer was mounted in a threaded hole. Sure enough I > came home, took a small needle nose plyers, and unscrewed the dial > pointer which blocked the chasis from removal. The chasis is out, the > radio is clean, and recapping is now in the works. FM was dead but > after a bit of switch cleaning it's making a come back. This is an > amazing radio. Too bad I didn't take on the radio at the flea market. > The dealer only wanted $10 for it. Looked away, and it was gone. > > Thanks for the suggestion though. This is an amazingly odd looking > radio that looks good once cleaned up. > > GB > > Ken Scharf wrote: > > RadioGary wrote: > > > Hi Guys, > > > > > > It's winter project time in the great midwest. I'm attempting to > > > disassemble a Motorola 79XM21, pictured at > > > > > > http://radioatticarchives.com/images/m/Motorola_79XM21_Toppo.jpg > > > > > > She's working fine, but would like to get underside and recap it, make > > > it perfect. The problem is how do you get the chassis out completely? > > > It looks as though you have to remove the grill assembly in order the > > > clear the dial pointer mechanism. How in the world is this done? Has > > > anyone tackled this before? Is there any reference on how to > > > disassemble this set in particular somewhere? I'd appreciate a > > > knowledgable helping hand on this. Now I know why I like working on > > > consoles better . Thanks, GB. EMAIL is N9VU at yahoo dot com, > > > or just reply to subject here. > > > > > I can't believe that the capacitor shaft doesn't just disconnect from > > the dial. If it doesn't have a push on spline, then there must be a > > set screw someplace. I've seen knobs that have a top cover that pulls > > or prys off and then you have access to the set screws. Maybe that's > > the case here? > Article: 323765 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: hamfest yesterday, passed up on old TO References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 22:49:43 GMT At the local hamfest here last month I had 2 TO's one H500 and a G500 and could not get $25 ea. They were not all that bad shape either. I guess a hamfest is not a good place to sell old radios. I wound up selling a bunch to one guy for a lot price, about 10% off I guess. Prices are going down for average unrestored radios it seems so it's good for people getting into the hobby. I think it peaked about 4 yrs ago, just my opinion from watching Ebay and local meets like the AWA conference. If that radio had all the tubes and the 50A1 and 1L6 were good then you would have done good buying it. Ken Scharf wrote: > Local hamfest free-flea yesterday. No old radios > except for a sad looking sliderule dial TO that I passed > up on because the case was in real bad shape. Most of the > covering peeling off exposing bare wood. The chassis didn't > look too bad, had all the tubes. > (didn't notice if the wave magnet was missing). > Seller wanted $20 for it. If the workroom didn't need > going over with a 'white tornado' I might have picked it up. > Just how bad would it have been to restore the cabinet? Article: 323766 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128778889.674834.300190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128791415.385769.117220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1128812809.191340.40780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43487603.8020509@domain.invalid> Subject: OT: Pat Paulsen is dead, IIRC was Is this worth the buy it now? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 22:55:18 GMT "xrongor" wrote in message news:dic6l2$f6su$1@news3.infoave.net... >> people who voted for bush didnt think it through either. they bought into > one or more of the republican mantras like 'democrats always raise taxes' > and voted... > > randy I had little choice. My candidate was an utter idiot, a Munchausen by proxy candidate, yet I couldn't be copmpletely irresponsible and cast no vote at all. Article: 323767 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1126877607.126240.53360@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1126889527.677216.42820@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128475190.805770.106230@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128898208.338812.76720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Model MK2603 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 22:56:49 GMT wrote in message news:1128898208.338812.76720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > Did you not put in your birthdate? In that case you will be stymied by the > > COPPA filter (to protect children from bad infuences on the web--Federal > > law). If you are previously banned from AK...if you need more helo email > > info@audiokarma.org. > > > The last few weeks they had it set for no new registrations, I can now > register. Excellent. Maybe they were doing some of their world-famous server upgrades LOL Article: 323768 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128778889.674834.300190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128791415.385769.117220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1128812809.191340.40780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43487603.8020509@domain.invalid> Subject: NEW TAG PROPOSAL FOR POSTS Message-ID: <0mh2f.987$PA1.123317@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 23:04:28 GMT I propose a new prefix for political opinions to note them better. I nominate POLOP: as it's a palindrome at least and might be easier, and not mistaken for POLL. "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in message news:qdh2f.985$PA1.122541@monger.newsread.com... > > "xrongor" wrote in message > news:dic6l2$f6su$1@news3.infoave.net... > >> people who voted for bush didnt think it through either. they bought > into > > one or more of the republican mantras like 'democrats always raise taxes' > > and voted... > > > > randy > > I had little choice. My candidate was an utter idiot, a Munchausen by proxy > candidate, yet I couldn't be copmpletely irresponsible and cast no vote at > all. > > Article: 323769 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128824720.299259.121800@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <43494e69$0$227$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <1128898372.678084.218400@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Lenco GL75 motor spindle problems Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 23:16:56 GMT wrote in message news:1128898372.678084.218400@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Thanks, > > Yeh I have been following that auction and asked the seller 2 > questions. One which he posted and the other which he didnt reply to: > that being whether the unit has a 50 or 60hz spindle. As I didnt get > verification of this fact, I didnt bid. > > Funny enough, last night I had a go at resetting the spindle (close > inspection revealed the place where it may have origninally been fused > due to some seal residue) I then attempted to reset it with a few drops > of superglue and reassembled the whole thing. It seems to run OK for > now, but I am very sceptical re the longer term, as they run quite hot. > > My project has involved making up 2 constained layer plinths ala the > conventional 'Lenco' Audiogon wisdom. One I hope to use for LPs (with > the Decca arm and M97) and the other for 78s and transcription records. > I have adapted the second to use either with a Decca arm or a rather > shoddy old 12" arm I recently sourced and will need to clean up. I > agree the Decca may not be suitable for 78s, and I'm hoping to use a > set of Stanton 500 series carts I had retipped by Expert pickups nearly > 20 years ago, but have been in storage for much of that time. As a > teenager, I used to use an old Australian 16" ex broadcast Byer > turntable which rumbled like a steam train due to hardened rim rubbers. > I recently purchased DC6 software, and hope to 'go to town' with > digitising quite a large collection of old recordings. >> Cheers, > > Stephen Quite impressive and sounds like a blast! As long as you didn't buy "dollar store" superglue and it set well, I'd give it a shot, and run a small fan underneath or nearby (far enough to keep the field those things put out from entering the picture (which is why I find it hard to place one behind this computer installation s the monitor acts up). Article: 323770 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128778889.674834.300190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128791415.385769.117220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1128812809.191340.40780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43487603.8020509@domain.invalid> <0mh2f.987$PA1.123317@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: NEW TAG PROPOSAL FOR POSTS Message-ID: Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 23:25:43 GMT "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in message news:0mh2f.987$PA1.123317@monger.newsread.com... > I propose a new prefix for political opinions to note them better. > > I nominate POLOP: as it's a palindrome at least and might be easier, and not > mistaken for POLL. My reasoning is thus: OT covers a lot of things, and often those who don't always care to delve in politics (all of us occasionally) might like a definitive prefix to alert us, as things often come out of the blue. This would obviously require some thinking to get it into the header, and also minor commentary is not necessarily an indicator of the need to do that. You are still always the best arbitrator concerning those issues, but it could be helpful. No, I'm NOT going to make any jokes about any posters here. It's a serious proposal. Thank you, Steven Article: 323771 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" References: Subject: Re: OT: Numechron Tymeter television clock lamps Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 00:25:54 GMT The one on that web page is earlier than mine. I posted a scan (no camera today) on abpr. "Wayne Boatwright" wrote in message news:Xns96EA4CC49AB7Dwaynesgang@217.22.228.19... > You're welcome, hope it works out for you. > > You might be interested in this website about the manufacturer. Your > clock, among others, is featured here. > > http://uv201.com/Clock_Pages/pennwood.htm > > > Article: 323772 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: foxtrot Subject: Re: Need source for Atwater Kent dial bezel Message-ID: <2uejk1hv5bgpe0dms6djo953pj11kcincq@4ax.com> References: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 00:55:42 GMT A friend is sending me one of those bezels with no number on it. If it is the same size as the one for the 735, I will use it. It should look ok. John On Sun, 9 Oct 2005 09:26:12 -0400, " Uncle Peter" wrote: > >" Uncle Peter" wrote in message > if you're >overly picky about the trim detailing on the bezel. >> >> Pete >> >> > > NOT overly picky about..... > Article: 323773 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: Lenco GL75 motor spindle problems Date: 9 Oct 2005 20:07:02 -0500 Message-ID: <4349be25$0$248$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: <1128824720.299259.121800@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <43494e69$0$227$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <1128898372.678084.218400@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> langleycello@yahoo.com wrote: > Thanks, > > Yeh I have been following that auction and asked the seller 2 > questions. One which he posted and the other which he didnt reply to: > that being whether the unit has a 50 or 60hz spindle. As I didnt get > verification of this fact, I didnt bid. > I think that you're safe bidding on this one -- 60 hz power is very rare in the world, and this auction is in the British Isles. I'm over 99% certain that it's a 50 hz motor (the seller probably has no idea!). What's your power in Australia? I'm assuming that it's 220/50. > Funny enough, last night I had a go at resetting the spindle (close > inspection revealed the place where it may have origninally been fused > due to some seal residue) I then attempted to reset it with a few drops > of superglue and reassembled the whole thing. It seems to run OK for > now, but I am very sceptical re the longer term, as they run quite hot. > Someone brought up the question of motor heat on the Lenco Heaven board. Why not go there? The original lubricant in that motor is grease, not oil. This may create some resistance and contribute to the heat. As strange as this seems, they survive nicely this way. > My project has involved making up 2 constained layer plinths ala the > conventional 'Lenco' Audiogon wisdom. One I hope to use for LPs (with > the Decca arm and M97) and the other for 78s and transcription records. > I have adapted the second to use either with a Decca arm or a rather > shoddy old 12" arm I recently sourced and will need to clean up. I > agree the Decca may not be suitable for 78s, and I'm hoping to use a > set of Stanton 500 series carts I had retipped by Expert pickups nearly > 20 years ago, but have been in storage for much of that time. If you leave a Lenco arm in place, you should have two interchangeable headshells (assuming that you got them). The rigidity of the head fastening onto that arm is superior to most other separate-headshell methods. It's worth considering. Check the aforementioned board and ask questions since the information there is a whole lot better than what's on Audiogon. These machines can be serious production turntables. Actually, for warped 78s, I prefer a spring-loaded tonearm. Here's where you need to go. You'll be glad you did! -----> http://lencoheaven.proboards30.com/ I'd like to know more about your software. Many broadcast turntables rumble for more reasons than just a hardened idler. You need to strap your cartridge for mono, or use some equivalent hookup to kill vertical response (except if you're copying vertically-modulated records). But you probably know all this. I'm still tweaking my own L-75 Have fun. Bubba Article: 323774 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: "My Newest Restoration" Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 21:13:44 -0400 Message-ID: <11kjg2b51dois37@corp.supernews.com> Now on binaries under this title. John H. Article: 323775 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "MIT" References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128778889.674834.300190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128791415.385769.117220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1128812809.191340.40780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43487603.8020509@domain.invalid> <0mh2f.987$PA1.123317@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: NEW TAG PROPOSAL FOR POSTS Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 01:13:24 GMT some recommendations: cover eyes with hands-CEWH stick head in sand-SHIS run for the hills-RFTH go to closet and start sobbing-GTCSS give up collecting-GUC kill file everyone-KFE throw computor in garbage-TCIG MIT "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in message news:XFh2f.989$PA1.123644@monger.newsread.com... | | "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in message | news:0mh2f.987$PA1.123317@monger.newsread.com... | > I propose a new prefix for political opinions to note them better. | > | > I nominate POLOP: as it's a palindrome at least and might be easier, and | not | > mistaken for POLL. | | My reasoning is thus: | | OT covers a lot of things, and often those who don't always care to delve in | politics (all of us occasionally) might like a definitive prefix to alert | us, as things often come out of the blue. This would obviously require some | thinking to get it into the header, and also minor commentary is not | necessarily an indicator of the need to do that. You are still always the | best arbitrator concerning those issues, but it could be helpful. | | No, I'm NOT going to make any jokes about any posters here. It's a serious | proposal. | | | Thank you, | | Steven | | From adouglasatgis.net Thu Oct 13 08:34:55 EDT 2005 Article: 323776 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Murdock detector Date: Sun, 09 Oct 2005 21:18:46 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 6 Message-ID: References: <19201$4349422e$4232bd6f$12247@COQUI.NET> <28258-434947B1-104@storefull-3334.bay.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-616.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:323776 Hi, The Murdock no.324 detector has a cup cantilevered out from one of the binding posts. The cup has a scalloped edge, from the look of the catalog illustration. (Bulletin 21, June 1921) Alan Article: 323777 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128778889.674834.300190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128791415.385769.117220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1128812809.191340.40780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43487603.8020509@domain.invalid> <0mh2f.987$PA1.123317@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: NEW TAG PROPOSAL FOR POSTS Message-ID: <6Bj2f.996$PA1.125065@monger.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 01:37:06 GMT KFC-one Fried Chicken FOXED-we have heard a half-truth and a quarter of that was creative WANA- We are not amused XRIGHTOR- Randy's apolitical doppelganger MJISIT-My Jeep is stuck in this (too deep) WFWT-want fries with that? "MIT" wrote in message news:Uej2f.14148$6e1.4105@newssvr14.news.prodigy.com... > some recommendations: > cover eyes with hands-CEWH > stick head in sand-SHIS > run for the hills-RFTH > go to closet and start sobbing-GTCSS > give up collecting-GUC > kill file everyone-KFE > throw computor in garbage-TCIG > MIT > > > "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in message news:XFh2f.989$PA1.123644@monger.newsread.com... > | > | "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in message > | news:0mh2f.987$PA1.123317@monger.newsread.com... > | > I propose a new prefix for political opinions to note them better. > | > > | > I nominate POLOP: as it's a palindrome at least and might be easier, and > | not > | > mistaken for POLL. > | > | My reasoning is thus: > | > | OT covers a lot of things, and often those who don't always care to delve in > | politics (all of us occasionally) might like a definitive prefix to alert > | us, as things often come out of the blue. This would obviously require some > | thinking to get it into the header, and also minor commentary is not > | necessarily an indicator of the need to do that. You are still always the > | best arbitrator concerning those issues, but it could be helpful. > | > | No, I'm NOT going to make any jokes about any posters here. It's a serious > | proposal. > | > | > | Thank you, > | > | Steven > | > | > > Article: 323778 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Re: Murdock detector Date: Sun, 9 Oct 2005 21:37:23 -0600 Message-ID: <13143-4349E1F3-1172@storefull-3333.bay.webtv.net> References: Thanks Alan I could vaguely make out the cantilevered holder in one of the net pictures and figured it would be something like that One of the previous owners had made a holder out of big no. 10 copper wire and wrapped it around the crystal and connedted it to the binding post. I am still at a loss to figure out why there is a threaded brass insert under the crystal that looks like it was intended to mount a regular crystal holder. The threaded brass insert is wired to the same binding post that the cantilever would swing from. . DON AC7PD Article: 323779 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128778889.674834.300190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128791415.385769.117220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1128812809.191340.40780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43487603.8020509@domain.invalid> <0mh2f.987$PA1.123317@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: NEW TAG PROPOSAL FOR POSTS Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 04:49:15 GMT Yep. Gotta love what defense work does for creative thinking :-0 "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:lrl2f.2226$B%6.1819@tornado.socal.rr.com... > MIT wrote: > > some recommendations: > > run for the hills-RFTH > > A few from when we worked at Northrop Aircraft. > > Super High Intensity Training. > Mechanics At Machine Milking All Repairs Into Every Shift. > Computer Undergoing Necessary Testing > > Jeff > > -- > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 323780 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Murdock detector From: "Haggis" telus.net> References: <13143-4349E1F3-1172@storefull-3333.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <_vm2f.13063$S4.4773@edtnps84> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 04:56:26 GMT Don. There's a good picture and also a description of one in Maurice L. Seivers' book, "Crystal Clear" , Vol. 1. If you don't have a copy, drop me a line. Cheers! Haggis. "Justice is mostly coincidental". Article: 323781 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4349FF1D.9EE18225@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: HISTORY CHANNEL DOC NEEDS PROPS References: <1123543447.821036.107210@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1MSdnXA6GPcpaWrfRVn-qQ@comcast.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 05:43:42 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: > > > The BBC was using magnetic "tape" recorders in the 1930s. They were > > based on a German recorder brought to the UK by L. Blattner and were > > called Blattnerphones. They used a steel tape as the recording media. > > I stand corrected. I had heard of the Blattnerphone and seen pictures, but > forgotten about it. > > It does, however, raise the question of why the Allies were puzzled about > how Hitler could give "live" speeches in several different cities in the > same day. Gee, William, have you ever heard the audio from a Blattnerphone or other steel tape recorder? Its like watching an old kinescope, compared to a live broadcast. IOW, the quality sucked, and it didn't take a trained ear to tell it was not a live broadcast. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 323782 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <434A0745.FF7B75CD@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: WTB: DEAD 6 pin tubes References: <1128798828.941874.151130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <434857EA.1AB2EE7@earthlink.net> <4572e$4348651a$4232be5e$22943@COQUI.NET> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 06:18:47 GMT Bill wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > > Jim Strickland wrote: > > > >>I'm looking for a couple *dead* six pin tubes (or six pin plugs that > >>fit in the tube sockets would work too). I don't want live tubes, as I > >>only want the bases and don't want to destroy good working tubes. > >>Mercury vapor tubes need not apply, either, that's just stuff I don't > >>need to breathe. Does anyone have any in their junk box they'd be > >>willing to part with? > >> > >>-Jim > > > > > > > > Wire Pro, Inc. http://www.wpi-interconnect.com/ bought that connector > > line from Amphenol and still make them with their part number 86-CP-6. > > They are made by the Salem division in Salem NJ. > > > > The plugs are "CP" series, and the sockets are "S" series. You can > > download their PDF catalog: > > > > and find them on page 27 & 29. They still make several different types > > of hoods for these connectors, and other tube sockets. > > > > http://www.wpi-interconnect.com/distrib.htm is a page of links to > > their distributors. > > > > RadioDaze sells those and has the best price on the net. They retail > for about as much as many NOS 6-pin tubes, though. > > -Bill Great. I won't waste my time posting links anymore. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 323783 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "gtlt" Subject: Re: 1930 Victor R-35 restoration help Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 02:38:30 +0200 Message-ID: References: <9uzkd.454$qv5.153@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <7896dbfb.0411120813.4a0776dd@posting.google.com> I need help with an RE-57. I have all the parts but i need a manual to put them all together. If anyone has a manual i would appreciate it. Article: 323784 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128798828.941874.151130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <434857EA.1AB2EE7@earthlink.net> <4572e$4348651a$4232be5e$22943@COQUI.NET> <434A0745.FF7B75CD@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: WTB: DEAD 6 pin tubes Message-ID: <9bo2f.1009$PA1.127630@monger.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 06:50:45 GMT "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:434A0745.FF7B75CD@earthlink.net... > Great. I won't waste my time posting links anymore. > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Don't fret. I think he found an altogether different source, from his final reply to me. Article: 323785 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" Subject: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 07:01:25 GMT I was under the impression that Akai had changed hands and divorced itself >from its classic product lines. All that seems to exist now is Akai Pro - http://www.akaipro.com I seem to recall that Akai doesn't have _any_ connection to their old products anymore, not even parts or manuals. Then this appears: http://makeashorterlink.com/?M1CF253FB "Factory Serviced?" I suppose it could have been 20 years ago. Or else there's a "factory authorized" shop still around from those days. That or some shop told him they "sent it to the factory" when they farmed out the repairs. Or is there a hidden resource out there? I have an old turntable and receiver that could use parts. Ray Article: 323786 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 07:24:31 GMT I don't know much but I suspect they are a Chinese imprint as they sell TV sets now. If you want info about Akai service first look in the phonebook for that shop or two that do warranty work on the major brands. Then use Audiokarma for what they were made for and also go to Rolf's Vintage TX pages (start at http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/vintagetx// ). Rolf is the widely acknowledge R2R king, but he would know about AKAI parts etc. They aren't distributed by Roberts or tied to Pioneer in some way anymore...AFAIK. "Rune" wrote in message news:9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com... > I was under the impression that Akai had changed hands and divorced itself > from its classic product lines. All that seems to exist now is Akai Pro - > http://www.akaipro.com > > I seem to recall that Akai doesn't have _any_ connection to their old > products anymore, not even parts or manuals. > > Then this appears: > > http://makeashorterlink.com/?M1CF253FB > > "Factory Serviced?" I suppose it could have been 20 years ago. Or else > there's a "factory authorized" shop still around from those days. That or > some shop told him they "sent it to the factory" when they farmed out the > repairs. > > Or is there a hidden resource out there? I have an old turntable and > receiver that could use parts. > > Ray > > Article: 323787 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1123543447.821036.107210@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1MSdnXA6GPcpaWrfRVn-qQ@comcast.com> <4349FF1D.9EE18225@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: HISTORY CHANNEL DOC NEEDS PROPS Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 07:29:20 GMT This is true. The WW2 development that made the difference was the invention of bias modulation of the recording current. If you want to experience what magnetic recording sounds like without bias, even with modern tape, pick up one of those rim-drive 3 or 4 transistor tape recorders from 1960-64 on eBay. Neat enough for voice but never mistaken for live. Ray "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:4349FF1D.9EE18225@earthlink.net... > William Sommerwerck wrote: >> >> > The BBC was using magnetic "tape" recorders in the 1930s. They were >> > based on a German recorder brought to the UK by L. Blattner and were >> > called Blattnerphones. They used a steel tape as the recording media. >> >> I stand corrected. I had heard of the Blattnerphone and seen pictures, >> but >> forgotten about it. >> >> It does, however, raise the question of why the Allies were puzzled about >> how Hitler could give "live" speeches in several different cities in the >> same day. > > > Gee, William, have you ever heard the audio from a Blattnerphone or > other steel tape recorder? Its like watching an old kinescope, compared > to a live broadcast. IOW, the quality sucked, and it didn't take a > trained ear to tell it was not a live broadcast. > > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 323788 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1123543447.821036.107210@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1MSdnXA6GPcpaWrfRVn-qQ@comcast.com> <4349FF1D.9EE18225@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: HISTORY CHANNEL DOC NEEDS PROPS Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 07:32:07 GMT That should have read "AC bias" of the signal... Gotta stop posting at 3:00AM Ray "Rune" wrote in message news:kLo2f.11616$Fc4.10402@twister.nyc.rr.com... > This is true. The WW2 development that made the difference was the > invention of bias modulation of the recording current. > > If you want to experience what magnetic recording sounds like without > bias, even with modern tape, pick up one of those rim-drive 3 or 4 > transistor tape recorders from 1960-64 on eBay. Neat enough for voice but > never mistaken for live. > > Ray > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message > news:4349FF1D.9EE18225@earthlink.net... >> William Sommerwerck wrote: >>> >>> > The BBC was using magnetic "tape" recorders in the 1930s. They were >>> > based on a German recorder brought to the UK by L. Blattner and were >>> > called Blattnerphones. They used a steel tape as the recording media. >>> >>> I stand corrected. I had heard of the Blattnerphone and seen pictures, >>> but >>> forgotten about it. >>> >>> It does, however, raise the question of why the Allies were puzzled >>> about >>> how Hitler could give "live" speeches in several different cities in the >>> same day. >> >> >> Gee, William, have you ever heard the audio from a Blattnerphone or >> other steel tape recorder? Its like watching an old kinescope, compared >> to a live broadcast. IOW, the quality sucked, and it didn't take a >> trained ear to tell it was not a live broadcast. >> >> -- >> ? >> >> Michael A. Terrell >> Central Florida > > Article: 323789 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 07:45:38 GMT Akai USA states it pretty bluntly: "APH USA began marketing products in the United States in 2001. No product support is available for products purchased before September 1, 2001. " http://www.akaiusa.com/faq.htm#5 The brand is owned by an outfit in Hong Kong and, like RCA, Crosley, Fisher, and other once-great brands, they mainly just slap their name on stuff made in China and Korea and sell it at Sam's Club and Costco. The question is; is this seller scamming or did he get scammed? Ray "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in message news:PGo2f.1013$PA1.127480@monger.newsread.com... >I don't know much but I suspect they are a Chinese imprint as they sell TV > sets now. > > If you want info about Akai service first look in the phonebook for that > shop or two that do warranty work on the major brands. Then use Audiokarma > for what they were made for and also go to Rolf's Vintage TX pages (start > at > http://www.angelfire.com/electronic2/vintagetx// ). Rolf is the widely > acknowledge R2R king, but he would know about AKAI parts etc. They aren't > distributed by Roberts or tied to Pioneer in some way anymore...AFAIK. > > "Rune" wrote in message > news:9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com... >> I was under the impression that Akai had changed hands and divorced >> itself >> from its classic product lines. All that seems to exist now is Akai Pro - >> http://www.akaipro.com >> >> I seem to recall that Akai doesn't have _any_ connection to their old >> products anymore, not even parts or manuals. >> >> Then this appears: >> >> http://makeashorterlink.com/?M1CF253FB >> >> "Factory Serviced?" I suppose it could have been 20 years ago. Or else >> there's a "factory authorized" shop still around from those days. That or >> some shop told him they "sent it to the factory" when they farmed out the >> repairs. >> >> Or is there a hidden resource out there? I have an old turntable and >> receiver that could use parts. >> >> Ray >> >> > > Article: 323790 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: 1930 Victor R-35 restoration help References: <9uzkd.454$qv5.153@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <7896dbfb.0411120813.4a0776dd@posting.google.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 07:23:15 -0400 What do you mean 'put it together'? If a schematic is what you need, there is an R-35 on Nostalgia air. I have diags on the R-32 and 52. Ken gtlt wrote: > I need help with an RE-57. I have all the parts but i need a manual to put > them all together. If anyone has a manual i would appreciate it. > Article: 323791 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 07:34:56 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: WTB: DEAD 6 pin tubes References: <1128798828.941874.151130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <434857EA.1AB2EE7@earthlink.net> <4572e$4348651a$4232be5e$22943@COQUI.NET> <434A0745.FF7B75CD@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Bill wrote: > >> >>RadioDaze sells those and has the best price on the net. They retail >>for about as much as many NOS 6-pin tubes, though. >> >>-Bill > > > Great. I won't waste my time posting links anymore. PRTLCFYS - Please Remove The Large Chip From Your Shoulder. Its not a competition. You found the item and I found a source/price. Doesn't sound like there's a problem. -Bill From adouglasatgis.net Thu Oct 13 08:34:58 EDT 2005 Article: 323792 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Murdock detector Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 07:23:06 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 6 Message-ID: References: <13143-4349E1F3-1172@storefull-3333.bay.webtv.net> <_vm2f.13063$S4.4773@edtnps84> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-609.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wns13feed!worldnet.att.net!199.218.7.141!news.glorb.com!nntpfeed.manyone.net!pln-e!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:323792 Hi, Murdock probably used the same base for several types of detectors. Some used a second mineral or a stationary pressure contact rather than a cat's whisker. Alan From adouglasatgis.net Thu Oct 13 08:34:59 EDT 2005 Article: 323793 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: HISTORY CHANNEL DOC NEEDS PROPS Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 07:31:45 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: <1123543447.821036.107210@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1MSdnXA6GPcpaWrfRVn-qQ@comcast.com> <4349FF1D.9EE18225@earthlink.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-797.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:323793 Hi, >The WW2 development that made the difference Wendell Carlson patented AC bias in 1923 +/- but it was forgotten for years. Alan Article: 323794 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "MatC" Subject: New to this - need help Re an Ekco C389 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 13:15:56 +0100 Message-ID: <3qv48tFghitrU1@individual.net> Hi Guys (And Gals?) I picked up an Ekco C389 from the local auctions with the idea of restoring back to health. Currently it lights up and goes hummmm a lot, no real surprises there.. Only thing is, I can't find out much about it, a couple of brief mentions on websites, no photos, no nothing! I've found a couple of references to the PB189 (The smaller version of mine) which is described as collectable, desirable, etc... I'm not hoping that I've chanced upon the holy grail of radios (though that would be nice), what I really need is someone saying that "this is suitable for someone to have a go fixing, don't worry if you kill it, theres loads of them." I would hate to destroy/mangle/whatever the radio then find they only made six and theres only a couple of known working ones.... So, Is this the right radio to get working? Where can I get spares? Any suggestions on where to get the manual? Cheers in advance! Mat Article: 323795 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: NEW TAG PROPOSAL FOR POSTS From: Larry References: <1128743661.342494.234740@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128778889.674834.300190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128791415.385769.117220@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1128812809.191340.40780@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43487603.8020509@domain.invalid> <0mh2f.987$PA1.123317@monger.newsread.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 09:46:09 -0400 Jeffrey D Angus wrote in news:lrl2f.2226$B%6.1819@tornado.socal.rr.com: > Super High Intensity Training When I worked at Sperry Microwave in Clearwater, FL, we used to tell people our engineers came from: Safety Harbor Institute of Technology.....(c; -- Larry Article: 323796 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Clive" Subject: Re: New to this - need help Re an Ekco C389 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:52:30 +0200 Message-ID: References: <3qv48tFghitrU1@individual.net> "MatC" wrote in message news:3qv48tFghitrU1@individual.net... > Hi Guys (And Gals?) > > I picked up an Ekco C389 from the local auctions with the idea of restoring > back to health. > Currently it lights up and goes hummmm a lot, no real surprises there.. > Only thing is, I can't find out much about it, a couple of brief mentions on > websites, no photos, no nothing! > I've found a couple of references to the PB189 (The smaller version of mine) > which is described as collectable, desirable, etc... > I'm not hoping that I've chanced upon the holy grail of radios (though that > would be nice), what I really need is someone saying that "this is suitable > for someone to have a go fixing, don't worry if you kill it, theres loads of > them." I would hate to destroy/mangle/whatever the radio then find they only > made six and theres only a couple of known working ones.... > Is is Bakelite or wood ? the PB189 is a very nice and collectable radio, the 'Holy Grail' of Ekco Radios are the AD-65 and A22, beautiful 1930's circular designs and much sort after. For British made sets the 1930's Ecko sets demand the best prices (we are talking hundreds rather than thousands or pounds). Any Ecko radio of this era is worth fixing up, it uses the same schematics than the PB189 - The following link has the schematic... http://www.shopingathome.com/Circuits%20and%20Manuals%20Lists/Ekco.htm //Clive. Article: 323797 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? From: Larry References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 10:08:16 -0400 "Rune" wrote in news:9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com: > I seem to recall that Akai doesn't have _any_ connection to their old > products anymore, not even parts or manuals. > > Typical Jap company. Anything beyond 5 years is disposable, even the Lexus. You're supposed to buy constant new items from them and let the trash man have last year's model for the landfill. Seen any restored Datsuns or Toyopets at a car show? (Sure would like to have my 2-cylinder Honda S-600 that got 65mpg back...[snif]) Matsushita Electric, the Panasonic people, closed Technics lock, stock and barrel. Technics organs were some of the finest, most trouble-free instruments ever sold. Their keyboards like the KN-6000 and 7000 were the finest ever made. But, when I call Panasonic for parts to fix a $28,000 console organ, these days, they have amnesia all of a sudden. They won't release the parts left to anyone who might store them, copy parts that sell and keep them running, like several old Hammond companies did. Nope...toss 'em and buy some new stuff from us.... Good luck with your Akai. Hope nothing fails on my Pioneer RT-707. There's no parts to fix it, either. -- Larry Article: 323798 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Re: Murdock detector Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:41:19 -0600 Message-ID: <16703-434A7D8F-1220@storefull-3338.bay.webtv.net> References: <_vm2f.13063$S4.4773@edtnps84> Haggis Tried to email directly but couldn't figure out what to remove. No I don't have a copy of that book bu would greatly appeciate a picture. Thanks DON AC7PD Article: 323799 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "MatC" Subject: Re: New to this - need help Re an Ekco C389 Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:56:49 +0100 Message-ID: <3qvdmeFh0ndgU1@individual.net> References: <3qv48tFghitrU1@individual.net> "Clive" wrote in message news:didrmv$oc0$1@news.al.sw.ericsson.se... > > "MatC" wrote in message > news:3qv48tFghitrU1@individual.net... >> Hi Guys (And Gals?) >> >> I picked up an Ekco C389 from the local auctions with the idea of > restoring >> back to health. >> Currently it lights up and goes hummmm a lot, no real surprises there.. >> Only thing is, I can't find out much about it, a couple of brief mentions > on >> websites, no photos, no nothing! >> I've found a couple of references to the PB189 (The smaller version of > mine) >> which is described as collectable, desirable, etc... >> I'm not hoping that I've chanced upon the holy grail of radios (though > that >> would be nice), what I really need is someone saying that "this is > suitable >> for someone to have a go fixing, don't worry if you kill it, theres loads > of >> them." I would hate to destroy/mangle/whatever the radio then find they > only >> made six and theres only a couple of known working ones.... >> > Is is Bakelite or wood ? the PB189 is a very nice and collectable radio, > the 'Holy Grail' of Ekco Radios are the AD-65 and A22, beautiful 1930's > circular designs and much sort after. For British made sets the 1930's > Ecko > sets demand the best prices (we are talking hundreds rather than thousands > or pounds). > > Any Ecko radio of this era is worth fixing up, it uses the same schematics > than the PB189 - The following link has the schematic... > > http://www.shopingathome.com/Circuits%20and%20Manuals%20Lists/Ekco.htm > > //Clive. > > It's a wood one, full height (if you know what I mean). It all appears to be there, the dial's had a bit of a scrape in the middle, and one knob's missing. Thanks for the schematic link, think I'll get one of those, should help somewhat! Now to get the multimeter out and see what does'nt work! I think the motor mechanism for the push buttons os going to be fun to sort out.. Mat Article: 323800 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Re: Murdock detector Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 08:51:46 -0600 Message-ID: <16703-434A8002-1223@storefull-3338.bay.webtv.net> References: Alan The detector I have does not have a cats whisker just a stationary pointed rod that is spring loaded to apply pressure on the detector. That is why some method of moving the crystal in relation to the rod is needed. I suppose that other detectors using the same base but with a different type of holder could have used a solidly mounted crystal and a cat whisker. DON AC7PD Article: 323801 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128798828.941874.151130@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <434857EA.1AB2EE7@earthlink.net> <4572e$4348651a$4232be5e$22943@COQUI.NET> <434A0745.FF7B75CD@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: WTB: DEAD 6 pin tubes Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:43:26 GMT Espescially since I believe he may have used a different source altogether, IIRC, and I had contact with him : ) "Bill" wrote in message news:c45d3$434a51e2$4232bd30$8249@COQUI.NET... > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > Bill wrote: > > > > >> > >>RadioDaze sells those and has the best price on the net. They retail > >>for about as much as many NOS 6-pin tubes, though. > >> > >>-Bill > > > > > > Great. I won't waste my time posting links anymore. > > PRTLCFYS - Please Remove The Large Chip From Your Shoulder. Its not a > competition. You found the item and I found a source/price. Doesn't > sound like there's a problem. > > -Bill Article: 323802 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <1128709563.578501.15340@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128941648.677322.183360@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Tips and Tricks Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:47:27 GMT Switch OFF the muting to tune, check the AFC and boost the signal if it's weak? Also, I had a local that overmodulated so badly that said light would wink to the beat. It may not be the Dynaco's problem. "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1128941648.677322.183360@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > Roger: > > Your solution is elegant for those lamps that are not part of a > circuit. In the case of the Dynaco (and perhaps the AR, I took no > chances), the particular value of the lamp affects both the "Tuned" and > "Stereo" circuits. This, such that if the lamps are either burnt out > _or_ of the improper impedance-when-lit, the circuit will malfunction. > > > I have replaced the lamps in a Dynaco FM-5 once, it took two resistors > and a diode. A series-resistor, and a resistor and diode in parallel. > Even then, the "tuned" section has a tendency to pulse if not > dead-center of station. Accordingly, when I run across this problem > elsewhere, I tend to use lamps and a bit of calculation/testing. > > Thoughts? > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 323803 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:53:04 GMT Larry, if you just go to the Canadian Technics site, maybe you'd be happy. Two months ago I was looking at maybe Mk 5 of the SL-1200 on the Panasonic site (it's a subsection) and a NEW CD scratch table. As for your RT-707, damned straight Rolf can get parts for it. "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96EB67AA0FFCnoone@63.223.7.253... > "Rune" wrote in > news:9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com: > > > I seem to recall that Akai doesn't have _any_ connection to their old > > products anymore, not even parts or manuals. > > > > > > Typical Jap company. Anything beyond 5 years is disposable, even the > Lexus. You're supposed to buy constant new items from them and let the > trash man have last year's model for the landfill. Seen any restored > Datsuns or Toyopets at a car show? (Sure would like to have my 2-cylinder > Honda S-600 that got 65mpg back...[snif]) > > Matsushita Electric, the Panasonic people, closed Technics lock, stock and > barrel. Technics organs were some of the finest, most trouble-free > instruments ever sold. Their keyboards like the KN-6000 and 7000 were the > finest ever made. But, when I call Panasonic for parts to fix a $28,000 > console organ, these days, they have amnesia all of a sudden. They won't > release the parts left to anyone who might store them, copy parts that sell > and keep them running, like several old Hammond companies did. Nope...toss > 'em and buy some new stuff from us.... > > Good luck with your Akai. Hope nothing fails on my Pioneer RT-707. > There's no parts to fix it, either. > > -- > Larry Article: 323804 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:59:34 GMT Hey, about an hour on Audiokarma etc. would open your eyes, and I'm sure somebody told them so afterward because nobody who owns one of those old Japanese "things" tends to want to get rid of it. We put out parts unit notices at the worst, or hang on and research more. Article: 323805 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin Crossley" References: <1128560909.512430.187320@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1h0fk1t877eg04o656u591ch2i88c78r8d@4ax.com> <4347e199$0$2526$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net> Subject: Re: Virtual Vintag Radios Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:34:30 +0100 Message-ID: <434aa629$0$49793$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net> "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:dibe750ga6@news2.newsguy.com... > Martin wrote: > >> My employer had some prototype case parts made by a company >> which fed the 3-D data into a type of epoxy resin in a machine >> with two lasers. It cured where the beams met and produced a solid part. >> Amazing! >> Perhaps this was the photopolymer process Tim mentioned? >> I'll try to find out more next week. >> (Sorry if I've messed up the attributions by snipping.) >> Martin (Stockport) >> > > The process is called stereolithography, and yes, It is amazing. Imagine > making perfect one-off parts and even whole cabinets without a mold and > without even touching the work in progress. Amazing, but expensive. > > -Scott > > That's it.They called it stereo-photo-lithography. I asked how much they paid, today: About 50 GBP for something the size of a radio knob. Beautiful finish.One example was brittle, but another slightly flexible, so presumably slightly different mixes.Should be good for escutcheons. Martin(Stockport) Article: 323806 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: Is this worth the buy it now? Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 12:36:22 -0500 Message-ID: <9656-434AA696-1015@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: HEY ! HOW MUCH DO I OWE YOU? I WROTE YOU SEVERAL DAYS AGO AND HAVENT GOTTEN AN ANSWER. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 323807 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128965985.641633.221970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Potential for an antenna preamplifier? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:48:21 GMT My God! It's full of stars! "Jiri Placek" wrote in message news:1128965985.641633.221970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > "Our dream has become a reality," Stuart said. Due to Dr. Karim's > ground-breaking work (who has been working in this field for more than > 30 years), Stuart and Civitan have been able to transmute and transform > negative electromagnetic energy fields, or EMF's, and ELF's (extremely > low energy fields) into the higher harmonic energies, including the > higher harmonic of Gold (physical abundance), the higher harmonic of > ultraviolet (spiritual abundance), etc., and the horizontal positive > and negative green, which is known be scalar (a no frequency > informational carrying wave which opens doors to higher consciousness). > This is the same healing energy (orgone energy) that Chi Gong masters > are able to emit from their hands. > > See the 03OCT2005 press release at http://www.gods8laws.com/ > > Jiri Placek > Boyertown, PA > Article: 323808 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128965985.641633.221970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Potential for an antenna preamplifier? Message-ID: <7Rx2f.3$Xj4.101@monger.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 17:49:55 GMT I don't think you wrote that somehow, Jiri ;-0 "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message news:FPx2f.2$Xj4.112@monger.newsread.com... > My God! It's full of stars! > > "Jiri Placek" wrote in message > news:1128965985.641633.221970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > "Our dream has become a reality," Stuart said. Due to Dr. Karim's > > ground-breaking work (who has been working in this field for more than > > 30 years), Stuart and Civitan have been able to transmute and transform > > negative electromagnetic energy fields, or EMF's, and ELF's (extremely > > low energy fields) into the higher harmonic energies, including the > > higher harmonic of Gold (physical abundance), the higher harmonic of > > ultraviolet (spiritual abundance), etc., and the horizontal positive > > and negative green, which is known be scalar (a no frequency > > informational carrying wave which opens doors to higher consciousness). > > This is the same healing energy (orgone energy) that Chi Gong masters > > are able to emit from their hands. > > > > See the 03OCT2005 press release at http://www.gods8laws.com/ > > > > Jiri Placek > > Boyertown, PA > > > > Article: 323809 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Potential for an antenna preamplifier? References: <1128965985.641633.221970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:24:41 GMT Jiri Placek wrote: > This is the same healing energy (orgone energy) that Chi Gong masters > are able to emit from their hands. But will restore the vacuum to my old audio tubes? Will it improve the sound stage of my cheap stereo equimpent? Ok Jiri, give.... You're a dealer for these things now? Did you do that to afford more of those rare antique radios? Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 323810 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> Subject: OT-television WTB: 19" CRT replacement (used) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:42:19 GMT The set is Sony model KV-1943R, 19" Trinitron, Sony DAPC mails back it's part no. 873725105? I do not know how this corresponds to the model no. on the CRT itself (may be different). I have two of these and one working remote, so obviously I wish to use it between rooms. I don't want to strip my KV-1923 to fix it, if that's the other solution. Must be in very good condition, decent filiment voltage that indicates good use left.. CRT is no longer made, so I am looking for used, although a very reasonably priced NOS/NIB would be well worth considering. Keep in mind that since I have just moved, I am catching up on things but should be fine at the start of November. Contact me at sidebanddead parrot AT&T srvWPLJinet dot com and get Monty Python off the phone to the radio station, YADIG? Article: 323811 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Potential for an antenna preamplifier? References: <1128965985.641633.221970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1128969052.311877.22900@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:58:01 GMT Jiri Placek wrote: > Jeff- I would not rule it out. It may also improve ballistic > properties of your ammo...;o) I just store mine under a cardboard pyramid. > I came across that amazing verbiage accidentally. The entire press > release is worth reading, the same person may well moonlight by writing > reviews on HiFi amplfiers, cables, and speakers. I did, it's a real hoot. And you're right, I bet they do write for Stereo Review. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 323812 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128965985.641633.221970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1128969052.311877.22900@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Potential for an antenna preamplifier? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:12:12 GMT I'm betting they have a cookbook with delicious treats also ;-0 "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:ZQy2f.2675$B%6.1687@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > Jiri Placek wrote: > > > Jeff- I would not rule it out. It may also improve ballistic > > properties of your ammo...;o) > > I just store mine under a cardboard pyramid. > > > I came across that amazing verbiage accidentally. The entire press > > release is worth reading, the same person may well moonlight by writing > > reviews on HiFi amplfiers, cables, and speakers. > > I did, it's a real hoot. And you're right, I bet they do write > for Stereo Review. > > Jeff > > > -- > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 323813 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128965985.641633.221970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Potential for an antenna preamplifier? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:25:40 GMT At least it didn't have stuff like this at the bottom: Raise the tallied salamder, Rachel, Ibrahim sullied graciously down the squirreled domino. Like manners quite accosted he contemplated. Only Argent towers may surface the vermillion turpentine... "Jiri Placek" wrote in message news:1128965985.641633.221970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > "Our dream has become a reality," Stuart said. Due to Dr. Karim's > > Boyertown, PA > Article: 323814 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128965985.641633.221970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Potential for an antenna preamplifier? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:28:35 GMT I mean, IT'S NOT SPAM...heeheeheehee Much later "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message news:Uez2f.8$Xj4.895@monger.newsread.com... > At least it didn't have stuff like this at the bottom: > > Raise the tallied salamder, Rachel, Ibrahim sullied graciously down the > squirreled domino. Like manners quite accosted he contemplated. Only Argent > towers may surface the vermillion turpentine... > > "Jiri Placek" wrote in message > news:1128965985.641633.221970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > "Our dream has become a reality," Stuart said. Due to Dr. Karim's > > > Boyertown, PA > > > > > Article: 323815 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128972722.474896.295200@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is this fake or what? Message-ID: <_xz2f.10$Xj4.1012@monger.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:46:02 GMT wrote in message news:1128972722.474896.295200@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > This cathedral radio is listed as from 1930's and higly valuable > antique... > It seems fake to me...The speaker is newish, the chassis is more like > from > a transoceanic, the cabinet seems a cheasy far east copy... > Any body has an opinion? > Thanks! > http://www.gittigidiyor.com/php/urun.php?id=1072005 Is that Danish I'm not drunk enough to read? Article: 323816 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:52:37 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Is this fake or what? References: <1128972722.474896.295200@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: siliconvalleyEE@gmail.com wrote: > This cathedral radio is listed as from 1930's and higly valuable > antique... > It seems fake to me...The speaker is newish, the chassis is more like > from > a transoceanic, the cabinet seems a cheasy far east copy... > Any body has an opinion? > Thanks! > http://www.gittigidiyor.com/php/urun.php?id=1072005 > Its definitely not 1930s. I like that invisible speaker wire connection! -Bill Article: 323817 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "hydebee" Subject: fa last day RARE RCA RADIOLA 48 TUBE RADIO Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 15:56:23 -0400 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6567189825 Article: 323818 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" Subject: Rider's CD/DVD Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:07:16 GMT Referring to Ebay item 6567597619, i was thinking to buy a DVD. Files in PDF. Are them well scanned or have anyone experienced troubles with bad images? (i'd like to be sure they are worth the 45+shipp) -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 323819 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: norml Subject: Re: Is this fake or what? Message-ID: References: <1128972722.474896.295200@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:47:50 GMT Very fake. That tube line-up is for an AC/DC-battery portable. Probably post-war, although the dial suggests pre-war. Norm siliconvalleyEE@gmail.com wrotf: >This cathedral radio is listed as from 1930's and higly valuable >antique... >It seems fake to me...The speaker is newish, the chassis is more like >from >a transoceanic, the cabinet seems a cheasy far east copy... >Any body has an opinion? >Thanks! >http://www.gittigidiyor.com/php/urun.php?id=1072005 Article: 323820 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: OT: eBay feedback was Re: Rider's CD/DVD Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:33:10 GMT "Shawn K" wrote in message news:JWz2f.138914$oW2.75754@pd7tw1no... > I bought this on DVD about two months ago, very good quality, clear > scans, easy to use menu. He shipped the product very quickly, just a > little slow on providing feedback (he hasn't left feedback for me yet). > > -- > > Shawn K > www.thisoldradio.com This is becoming a potential problem. eBay changed the rules, now I have new contacts who won't leave any? I have sent an email to eBay more than once. Without feedback eBay is a hack job, and the community deserves a decent response. Feedback should be mandatory, but they've made it into an option for people who sell many items and are paranoid about crap gumming up the works and making it futile to sell. Article: 323821 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "hydebee" Subject: fa jr Message-ID: <9iA2f.15$f83.4@fe06.lga> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:37:26 -0400 free country dude, why don't you worry more about the obscene lang, used instead of someone ads , by the way ebay rules do not state what you are saying so go bother someone else you asinine idiot!!!! Article: 323822 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128938083.233323.265000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128945642.584320.212650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1128952000.514326.260700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <07adnRx24ZCMUNfeRVn-hw@comcast.com> <1128977446.241136.228330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: testing a transducer? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 20:59:09 GMT Open the button ass'y and see if one or more of the contacts on the pad are worn, dirty or corroded (or just plain dead). Do the Deoxit thing or whatever you might use, tuner cleaner would probably do as they didn't have stuff like that then. If you've ever seen a computer keyboard with the keys removed, you might understand. "frenchy" wrote in message news:1128977446.241136.228330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I got the thing to work again on some of the functions, so maybe the > transducer is ok after all, not sure. I cleaned out that screen and > it's still damn weak, have to have it within a foot or a few inches of > the mike. It's as though this thing is progressively getting weaker > and weaker on me, even if I use a power adapter instead of the battery. > I could try replacing the one transistor in the remote, 2n406, what > are the odds that this transistor could be weak, I mean it is 44 years > old? Or what are the odds that it would just die totally instead of > being weak? Maybe I'll just stick another transistor in there and try > again. > Article: 323823 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <9iA2f.15$f83.4@fe06.lga> Subject: Re: fa jr Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:05:47 GMT Because I could, if I chose, email or call Charter and complain about you acting like a tard for such a childlike display andyou posted it in the first place so grow up? I suppose it would stain my credibility if I did, but are you 14 or something? And why do you bother to do something so stupid when there are members on your very ISP who probably saw you come home from the supermarket? Only a newbie tard though. Learn how to constructively deal with criticism please. "hydebee" wrote in message news:9iA2f.15$f83.4@fe06.lga... > free country dude, why don't you worry more about the obscene lang, used > instead of someone ads , by the way ebay rules do not state what you are > saying so go bother someone else you asinine idiot!!!! > > Article: 323824 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <434ADA04.A1369250@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Zenith R7000-2 Transoceanic Need IC201 (#221-113) References: <1oudnUrS04ZWjtfeRVn-pA@conversent.net> <1128951799.632002.192430@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <542dnaXuoqPANtfeRVn-vw@conversent.net> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:14:12 GMT Paul Moyer wrote: > > Peter, > > That's not the part I need. Maybe my part description was confusing. I get > a "nothing found" when I enter "221-113" in Mouser's search. The part I'm > looking for is a 14-pin DIP IC and its function is IF amp and AGC. > > I've tried all the cross references that I have and found nothing, but I'll > bet this IC wasn't custom made for Zenith. Zenith was supposed to have made their own semiconductors. They even had a small cross reference at one time. A lot of their early semiconductors had no replacements. Also, NTE drops obsolete parts from their electronic cross reference after they stop selling a replacement. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 323825 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ianto Subject: Re: Zenith R7000-2 Transoceanic Need IC201 (#221-113) Message-ID: References: <1oudnUrS04ZWjtfeRVn-pA@conversent.net> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 16:15:37 -0500 On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 03:10:18 -0400, "Paul Moyer" wrote: >I would greatly appreciate any help to locate a Zenith #221-113 IC or a >substitute. This is IC201 on the IF/Audio module (module #A-8995). > >Many thanks for any help. > >Paul Moyer > The part is listed in the Union Electronic Distributors catalog. https://www.ued.net/ued/addItems.do?itemCode=ZEN221-113 It is marked **NLA** , which probably means No Longer Available, but they may be able to help you track one down. Mike Capel capel AT mts DOT net Article: 323826 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128938083.233323.265000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128945642.584320.212650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1128952000.514326.260700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <07adnRx24ZCMUNfeRVn-hw@comcast.com> <1128977446.241136.228330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128978884.438122.233710@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: testing a transducer? Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:24:59 GMT Do you have the wrong type of cap in there, or is there a diode that is iffy? Is that transducer electrostatic? "frenchy" wrote in message news:1128978884.438122.233710@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Yeah did all that cleaning of the contacts with tuner cleaner, shiny as > new pennies. Replaced the two paper and electrolytics in this hand > unit (which enabled the action of the remote pretty good) but since > then it's been downhill, seemingly less and less power, iffy functions, > have to have closer to set. > Article: 323827 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128972722.474896.295200@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1128974154.171445.110830@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128974532.951040.222110@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is this fake or what? Message-ID: <47B2f.21$Xj4.1568@monger.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:33:52 GMT "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:bvGdnSSoJbFnRtfeRVn-sw@giganews.com... > Why don't you email the seller and ask if it works? > > Phil Nelson I've never been bounced from a nonexistant Turkish email address...might be as fun as having Italian, Brazilian or Japanese ISPs sending back "???" in native tongue... Article: 323828 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Rider's CD/DVD Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:42:03 GMT "Daniele" wrote in message news:URz2f.6588$Pe2.150915@twister2.libero.it... > Referring to Ebay item 6567597619, > i was thinking to buy a DVD. Files in PDF. > Are them well scanned or have anyone > experienced troubles with bad images? > (i'd like to be sure they are worth the 45+shipp) > > -- http://groups.google.com/group/rec.antiques.radio+phono/browse_frm/thread/14dc4254209479c2/7facfd95182a794a?lnk=st&q=menning+rider+dvd+group:rec.antiques.radio%2Bphono&rnum=1&hl=en#7facfd95182a794a jim menning Article: 323829 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <434AE738.8FD8A6AF@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Zenith R7000-2 Transoceanic Need IC201 (#221-113) References: <1oudnUrS04ZWjtfeRVn-pA@conversent.net> <1128951799.632002.192430@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:10:31 GMT Peter Wieck wrote: > > Paul: > > Mouser show several parts of that number, one of which is: > > Mouser Part #: 595-TLV2770IP Page 262 > Mfr. Part #: TLV2770IP Data Sheet > Mfr: Texas Instruments > Category: Amplifier ICs > Description: Texas Instruments Amplifiers DIP-8 Rail-Rail > > Is this what you need? $1.65 + shipping from Mouser. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA A 2.7 volt rail to rail op amp? -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 323830 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: fa last day RARE RCA RADIOLA 48 TUBE RADIO Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:19:06 +0900 Message-ID: References: "hydebee" wrote in message news:GHz2f.10587$Ue7.6095@fe03.lga... > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6567189825 > It is a rather unique chassis layout, isn't it? Article: 323831 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: fa last day RARE RCA RADIOLA 48 TUBE RADIO Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:32:06 GMT Yipes. I don't know exzactly what I'm looking at vertically mounted to save space. Doesn't excuse hydebee's tardism, though. "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:diep8b$m2o$1@news2.kornet.net... > > "hydebee" wrote in message > news:GHz2f.10587$Ue7.6095@fe03.lga... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6567189825 > >> > It is a rather unique chassis layout, isn't it? > > Article: 323832 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Virtual Vintag Radios Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:53:54 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1128560909.512430.187320@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In "Bob in Phx" writes: >It already here,,, have you seen a cnc mill at work. Yes, but they have their limitations. Try sending it a hollow sphere. :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 323833 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: d Subject: Zenith Transoceanic Question Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:57:28 GMT Of the different TUBE Transoceanics which, if any, are the overall most desirable? I will define "desirable" here as being best to actually *use* as a radio day-in day-out, not collectability. Which is to say best sounding, most reliable, easiest to work on, best availability of parts, best sensitivity, etc, etc. I'm sure you get the idea. Or is there no meaningful difference in them as they are *all* quite good? Thanks in advance for any and all replies. Article: 323834 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128560909.512430.187320@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Virtual Vintag Radios Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 23:13:13 GMT "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:diere2$idc$1@reader1.panix.com... > In "Bob in Phx" writes: > > >It already here,,, have you seen a cnc mill at work. > > Yes, but they have their limitations. Try sending it a hollow sphere. :) > > -- > Tim Mullen > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. > ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- I've seen a lot of "hollow spheres" in this life...don't need no stinkin' virtual ones Article: 323835 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: now HERE'S a beauty! Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 23:25:07 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1_idnYWVJdFY5treRVn-hQ@comcast.com> In <1_idnYWVJdFY5treRVn-hQ@comcast.com> "Mark Oppat" writes: >check this gem! what styling! >http://cgi.ebay.com/Vintage-Antique-Radio-Unusual-Old-Dial-Swedish_W0QQitemZ5815339513QQcategoryZ50595QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Ow. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 323836 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <434AFECB.C7F61046@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Zenith R7000-2 Transoceanic Need IC201 (#221-113) References: <1oudnUrS04ZWjtfeRVn-pA@conversent.net> <1128951799.632002.192430@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <542dnaXuoqPANtfeRVn-vw@conversent.net> <434ADA04.A1369250@earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 23:51:08 GMT Bill Cohn wrote: > > Zenith never made their own semiconductors. They did have them made > specially for them by many of the well known semiconductor houses like > Motorola, Texas Instruments, Fairchild and Phillips. Most of the IC's > used in the R7000-2 were off the shelf parts at the time as the > production run of this radio was small. They were either TI or National > parts. Zenith used the National LM373 in that radio for part of the run > but I think they changed the design in the later versions of the chassis. > > Regards, > > Bill Cohn > Former Zenith Engineer 1973-1994 I can't find a schematic, or I could probably find a replacement. They may have pulled stunts like Sony where they would use a standard IC with the leads bent up instead of down. You could use the standard IC by soldering it to the bottom of the board. I did this to a number of Sony TVs in the '70s. I recall seeing a booklet from Zenith that had the pinouts of their custom IC numbers. BTW, do you remember the Zenith chroma chip on a nine pin tube base? -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 323837 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: Zenith Transoceanic Question References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 00:17:12 GMT d wrote: > I will define "desirable" here as: > being best to actually *use* as a radio day-in day-out There are basically two different dials used on the transoceanics. The "airplane" dial (the pointer moves in a circle) of the 8G005, G500 and H500, and the slide rule dial of the 600 series. Most people find that tuning the slide rule is easier. > best sounding I find the 8G005 has the nicest sound, it has push pull audio output > most reliable well, most of the tube type transoceanics are in the vicinity of 45 years old (and up), but if you restore it well, it will give years of service. > easiest to work on There are a lot of parts in a small, confined area on all transoceanics, but I would say that any of the 600 series are fairly easy to work on. On the other side of the coin, the 8G005 is the most work, it has a lot of rubber insulated wiring that is known to harden, crack, and flake off, which requires extra work to replace, plus it has some asbestos under the chassis that needs to be carefully sealed to prevent any health hazards. > best availability of parts There are several points here. 1) Tubes for all the transoceanics are still available, but there are several types that are becoming expensive, namely the 1L6 (used in the G500 and up) and the 50A1 (600 series). There are several cheaper alternatives from several sources: a 1LA6 with an adapter to replace the 1L6, and a solid state replacement for the 50A1. Using Antique Electronic Supply as a price guide, and using original tubes (no alternative options) it would cost $44.30 to retube an 8G005Y, $75.60 for the G500 and H500, $112.70 for any of the 600 series. If you shop around on ebay, you can usually drop those prices, and used tubes are cheaper too. I have been able to acquire a full set of tubes for my 600's for about $60 on ebay. 2) Plastic parts (knobs, bezels, handles, etc) There were about 110,000 8G005's made, 90,000 G500's, and about 250,000 each of the H500's and the 600 series. Overall, you would have to use another radio for spare parts (if needed). Based on these numbers, spares are easier to obtain for the H500's and the 600 series, but there are several different types of 600 series bezels (some with or without headphone jacks, different fonts, etc.) Overall, I have found that parts are easier to obtain for the H500. 3) Other parts (antennas, capacitors, components, etc) Some of the parts, such as the wave rod antenna, are interchangeable between sets (ie: G500, H500, and 600's are usually interchangeable), the higher voltage capacitors are available from several retailers, etc. I have limited this info to the 8G005, G500, H500 and the 600 series, because the 7G605 (first transoceanic), R-520, R-520A (the military transoceanics), and the leather 600 series usually cost more to buy, and the parts are not as easy (sometimes impossible) to obtain. These sets would be considered the "collectible" sets. I hope this helps out.... -- Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Article: 323838 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <1128972722.474896.295200@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is this fake or what? Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:21:27 -0500 Message-ID: <434b0584$0$3762$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> That's a crapophone. Pointer is from an H500 Tranny, dial from what looks like a '30's Zenith, and God only knows where the chassis came from. wrote in message news:1128972722.474896.295200@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > This cathedral radio is listed as from 1930's and higly valuable > antique... > It seems fake to me...The speaker is newish, the chassis is more like > from > a transoceanic, the cabinet seems a cheasy far east copy... > Any body has an opinion? > Thanks! > http://www.gittigidiyor.com/php/urun.php?id=1072005 > Article: 323839 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Murdock detector From: "Haggis" telus.net> References: <_vm2f.13063$S4.4773@edtnps84> <16703-434A7D8F-1220@storefull-3338.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 00:35:35 GMT On 10-Oct-2005, donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) wrote: > Haggis > Tried to email directly but couldn't figure out what to > remove.......................... Check your inbox. I'm not too sure about webmail's restrictions (if any?). There are 4 files at about 120 k each. Cheers! Haggis. Article: 323840 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? From: Larry References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:40:59 -0400 "Peter Wieck" wrote in news:1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > They sincerely did not expect their stuff to break, I sure agree with this. I remember we got a Young Chang 6' 1" grand piano in from their distribution system. It came with three legs, ok, but it came in with three FRONT legs and no leg that fit on the back of the kidney, which is of different lengths. So, we called and asked 'em to send us the correct leg. What?! Oh, no, WE couldn't have made a mistake like that....IMPOSSIBLE! All our pianos are packed perfectly, no mistakes at all....That was the attitude. It took 2 months to get that leg and I bet HEADS ROLLED back in Korea....(c; They were just incredulous that such a mistake had been made.... The store owner also needed some cheap pianos for the lesser owners. He goofed. Some slick, good-lookin' woman talked him into buying some Sangler & Sohne pianos made in the Bellarus Tank and Tractor Factory, I think. The first one came in and I started to unpack it. It was packaged like you'd package a diesel engine...on a pallet. I called the boss and asked what the hell was this?! "I'm afraid to pick it up by the two dowels someone drove into the frame with a hammer!", I told him. "If it collapses when Willie and I pick it up, I'm not gonna be responsible!", I kept up. "Do the better models come with WHEELS?" (It had wheels but I think he paid $650 a piece for them so had to make it sound worse than it was.)....(c; He ate a few and stopped ordering them, thank God. How awful.... I could just see some kid playing chop sticks and the whole front falling off in his lap!....hee hee.... -- Larry Article: 323841 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <9iA2f.15$f83.4@fe06.lga> <1128987633.182778.99050@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: fa jr Message-ID: <%OE2f.33$Xj4.3242@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:45:31 GMT Cheerleading time: Come on, Peter you can do it if you put your heart into it Gooooo Peter! Gather an original insult and we'll do lunch "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1128987633.182778.99050@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > Pot Kettle Black. > Hydee Ho & Skippy deserve each other. > > Wouldn't it be nice if they found each other and left the rest of us > alone. > Article: 323842 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? From: Larry References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:46:23 -0400 "Steven Dinius_" <10kc@srvinet.com> wrote in news:A7w2f.1042$PA1.130741@monger.newsread.com: > Larry, if you just go to the Canadian Technics site, maybe you'd be > happy. Two months ago I was looking at maybe Mk 5 of the SL-1200 on > the Panasonic site (it's a subsection) and a NEW CD scratch table. As > for your RT-707, damned straight Rolf can get parts for it. > Thanks, I'll check it out. I needed some organ parts for a big Technics theatre organ a few months back and the woman nearly had a heart attack after I told her the mechanical organ parts were no longer available. I searched and searched lots of old Technics dealers for a junker and she would have bought the whole thing to get them. Luckily, she found a buyer to unload it on and retrieve some of her thousands for pennies on the dollar. There were lots of DJ and audio parts floating around when the crash happened. Guitar Center has a store here I do electronics work for. They still sell some brand new Technics DJ equipment. Someone has lots of leftovers.... -- Larry Article: 323843 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <9iA2f.15$f83.4@fe06.lga> <1128987633.182778.99050@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <%OE2f.33$Xj4.3242@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: fa jr Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:51:09 GMT No replies, pulleeeiizz...make this thread a clean kill "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message news:%OE2f.33$Xj4.3242@monger.newsread.com... > Cheerleading time: > > Come on, Peter you can do it if you put your heart into it > Gooooo Peter! > > Gather an original insult and we'll do lunch > > "Peter Wieck" wrote in message > news:1128987633.182778.99050@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > Pot Kettle Black. > > Hydee Ho & Skippy deserve each other. > > > > Wouldn't it be nice if they found each other and left the rest of us > > alone. > > > > Article: 323844 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Nordmende Globetraveler Jr From: Larry References: <1128976832.163278.27370@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:51:40 -0400 "Mike" wrote in news:1128976832.163278.27370@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: > Does anyone have the dial stringing info for the above portable radio? > I need to restring the FM tuner portion. > Thanks, > Mike > > > Wow...blast from the past! Sorry I don't have the info you're looking for, Mike, but I'm the original owner of a Globetraveller II from the mid 60s. My FM tuner failed and I never went into it to find out why because it's SO hard to get into....and even get to! The FM IF seems to function, but I think the oscillator has died as even if you are under a 100KW tower there's no conversion at all. The SW was the reason I wanted it. I even have the under-the-dash car kit, whos plunger turns loose that huge audio power transistor into a real LOUD beast into the car speaker! Best of luck to your Nordmende. Mine has many happy hours at sea on Navy ships across the pond running on the taxpayer's D cells...5 of them. -- Larry Article: 323845 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Potential for an antenna preamplifier? From: Larry References: <1128965985.641633.221970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:53:29 -0400 "Jiri Placek" wrote in news:1128965985.641633.221970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: > "Our dream has become a reality," Stuart said. Due to Dr. Karim's > ground-breaking work (who has been working in this field for more than > 30 years), Stuart and Civitan have been able to transmute and transform > negative electromagnetic energy fields, or EMF's, and ELF's (extremely > low energy fields) into the higher harmonic energies, including the > higher harmonic of Gold (physical abundance), the higher harmonic of > ultraviolet (spiritual abundance), etc., and the horizontal positive > and negative green, which is known be scalar (a no frequency > informational carrying wave which opens doors to higher consciousness). > This is the same healing energy (orgone energy) that Chi Gong masters > are able to emit from their hands. > > See the 03OCT2005 press release at http://www.gods8laws.com/ > > Jiri Placek > Boyertown, PA > > Man, Jiri. You just GOTTA stay away from those Scientologists and their quack machines.....(c; -- Larry Article: 323846 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: [O.T.] Re: Akai Factory Service? References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128988366.262746.163530@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <6%E2f.481$Xp6.185@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 01:58:26 GMT AuroraOldRadios wrote: > Peter Wieck wrote: > >> "They" say that our exports must equal or exceed our imports in >> order for the Economy to remain (as) Strong (as it is, anyway). >> Well, we are exporting jobs at such a massive clip that we should >> be just fine, right? >> >> Peter Wieck Wyncote, PA > I know all about that. After I was "force adjusted" from Qwest Com.in > 2/2004, my project including software development and maintenance > was sent to India. Well, let me tell ya...the Detroit area is still reeling from Delphi declaring bankruptcy, and on the news today, some commentators were talking about a 30% chance that GM would also declare bankruptcy (Ford and GM bonds have been reduced to "junk" status several months ago). Even if the UAW *had* given in to the Delphi's Draconian request of a 63% pay cut, down to, say $10/hr with benefits, that *still* wouldn't cut the mustard compared to Mr. Rajiv or Mr. Wong working for 17 cents an hour with NO benefits. A race to the bottom... Perot talked about that "gigantic sucking sound" and sadly, it looks like he was right. Ross, where are you when we need you? P.S. Sorry for the OT but: a) I didn't start the thread, just replying. b) I did add OT to the title. c) This is important enough that if enough people get charged up about this, maybe our gummint will wake up, focus on "home-front" problems and quit telling us how great it is to export jobs. :-( Article: 323847 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Oh god, not THIS again........ Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 18:51:57 -0700 Message-ID: Some beaten horses never die.............. http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/12866055.htm _____________________________________________________________________________ Socket to you THE RISE OF BROADBAND OVER POWER LINES By Dean Takahashi Mercury News Call it a dark horse in the race to bring Internet connections to America's homes. The electric utility industry wants to bring us Internet connections as well. Consumers already have cable TV and phone companies vying to sign them up for high-speed Internet service. The power companies would be new contenders in this race. It may sound crazy that the people who have brought us outages and brownouts are promising round-the-clock high-speed Internet access. But after years of incubation, industry observers say it's ready to happen. Trials have begun, and big rollouts are expected in 2006. ``It's not just cool technology,'' Deepak Kamlani, president and chief executive of Global Inventures, a consultancy in San Ramon, said at a recent conference in Burlingame. ``It's ready for prime time. It's not smoke and mirrors.'' The idea has been around for a long time, but the costs have fallen and transmission speeds have gone up, making it more practical. The service, called BPL for broadband over power lines, could be cheaper and faster than DSL service over phone lines or cable-TV that now supply Internet connections to most U.S. households. The power companies would use their existing utility lines to pipe ``outside'' Internet connections up to homes, but this service would end at the wall socket. Inside the home, customers still can choose whether to plug in their home computers by using a wired or wireless network. In California, the Public Utilities Commission is encouraging utilities to adopt the technology and has approved the leasing of power grids to Internet companies. Regulators in Texas have approved it for deployment, and other states are following. BPL is already a reality in some parts of the country and in Europe. Manassas, Va., has just completed a citywide BPL network, implemented by a private company, that offers Internet access to 12,500 households. Ingo Schonberg, chief executive of PowerPlus Communications in Germany, said his company's utility has offered BPL service to more than 300,000 homes in Europe and it already has more than 10,500 paying subscribers in the cities of Manheim, Germany, and Linz, Austria. To implement BPL in the United States, the power companies need to put equipment, known as repeaters, into the various electrical substations so they can link neighborhoods in shared Internet service. The capital costs are relatively low because the wires are already in place. The closer each piece of equipment is, the faster the service provided. But homes in each substation area must share Internet access; as with cable-TV modems, the more subscribers in a neighborhood, the slower the Internet access for each home. Current Technologies in Germantown, Md., is offering hardware and software for utilities to implement broadband over power lines. One of Current Technologies' investors is Google, which is also seeking to finance citywide WiFi networks. In Cincinnati, Current Technologies and the local utility, Cinergy, are signing up thousands of customers for broadband service for as little as $27 a month, said Richard Goldstein, managing director of Liberty Associated Partners, which owns Current Technologies. Power companies are moving fast because the cost of retrofitting the power grid for Internet service is inexpensive -- about a third of the cost to make phone or cable-TV lines Internet-ready, he said. The attractions are plentiful for both consumers and power companies, and that's why the Telecommunications Industry Association predicts that BPL equipment and service will become a multibillion-dollar industry in the next five years, said Bill Moroney, president of the United Power Line Council, a utility industry group. Since BPL is sometimes faster and possibly cheaper, it gives consumers another choice, Moroney said. Rural consumers don't always have phone or cable-TV service, but they typically have power lines. The utilities like BPL because they can lease their power lines out to Internet service providers such as EarthLink. ``They're going for a twofer,'' says Joyce Putscher, an analyst at market researcher In-Stat in Scottsdale, Ariz. ``The productivity gain alone makes it worth the investment. On top of that, they can get revenues from Internet service. It seems pretty compelling.'' BPL can also help them manage their power grids more efficiently, said Gary Stuebing, manager of powerline communications at Duke Power, a utility in Charlotte, N.C. Too often, Stuebing said, power companies have to wait until they get complaints before they know where service is out. With the tracking technology that is built into BPL, companies know exactly which homes have access, and even which homes are illegally tapping the grid for power. That, Moroney said, enables a utility to save $30 million a year by implementing BPL in a major market. ``For us, this opens the gate to a more productive grid,'' Stuebing said. ``And we can lease our lines to offer broadband service, Internet telephony, video services, security and other services, too.'' PG&E, which provides much of the power in the Bay Area, doesn't plan to sell Internet access, said spokesman Paul Moreno. But he said PG&E wants to set up alliances with Internet service providers who could lease its lines. Goldstein said Current Technologies is in talks to start a trial in Los Angeles. San Diego has also begun its own BPL trial. ``We are very interested in exploring opportunities in these markets,'' he said. Contact Dean Takahashi at dtakahashi@mercurynews. com or (408) 920-5739. _____________________________________________________________________________ Article: 323848 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128988366.262746.163530@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <6%E2f.481$Xp6.185@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net> Subject: Re: [O.T.] Re: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: <7bF2f.35$Xj4.3262@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 02:11:15 GMT Quoth the Carter: > P.S. Sorry for the OT but: > > a) I didn't start the thread, just replying. True, but never helped at Nuremburg, of course ;-0 > b) I did add OT to the title. True. If you didn't wager more than 1800 dollars, you are our new Jeopardy champion. > c) This is important enough that if enough people get charged up about > this, maybe our gummint will wake up, focus on "home-front" problems and > quit telling us how great it is to export jobs. :-( Ooh, sorry that leaves you with nothing and our winner with many self employment outlets is Steven. Article: 323849 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Oh god, not THIS again........ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 02:13:53 GMT Techno tards...even FMTC has wireless now. "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:dif5s002tmn@news4.newsguy.com... > Some beaten horses never die.............. > > http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/12866055.htm > > ____________________________________________________________________________ _ > Socket to you > > THE RISE OF BROADBAND OVER POWER LINES > > By Dean Takahashi > > Mercury News > > Call it a dark horse in the race to bring Internet connections to > America's homes. > > The electric utility industry wants to bring us Internet connections as > well. > > Consumers already have cable TV and phone companies vying to sign them > up for high-speed Internet service. The power companies would be new > contenders in this race. > > It may sound crazy that the people who have brought us outages and > brownouts are promising round-the-clock high-speed Internet access. But > after years of incubation, industry observers say it's ready to happen. > Trials have begun, and big rollouts are expected in 2006. > > ``It's not just cool technology,'' Deepak Kamlani, president and chief > executive of Global Inventures, a consultancy in San Ramon, said at a > recent conference in Burlingame. ``It's ready for prime time. It's not > smoke and mirrors.'' > > The idea has been around for a long time, but the costs have fallen and > transmission speeds have gone up, making it more practical. > > The service, called BPL for broadband over power lines, could be cheaper > and faster than DSL service over phone lines or cable-TV that now supply > Internet connections to most U.S. households. > > The power companies would use their existing utility lines to pipe > ``outside'' Internet connections up to homes, but this service would end > at the wall socket. Inside the home, customers still can choose whether > to plug in their home computers by using a wired or wireless network. > > In California, the Public Utilities Commission is encouraging utilities > to adopt the technology and has approved the leasing of power grids to > Internet companies. Regulators in Texas have approved it for deployment, > and other states are following. > > BPL is already a reality in some parts of the country and in Europe. > Manassas, Va., has just completed a citywide BPL network, implemented by > a private company, that offers Internet access to 12,500 households. > > Ingo Schonberg, chief executive of PowerPlus Communications in Germany, > said his company's utility has offered BPL service to more than 300,000 > homes in Europe and it already has more than 10,500 paying subscribers > in the cities of Manheim, Germany, and Linz, Austria. > > To implement BPL in the United States, the power companies need to put > equipment, known as repeaters, into the various electrical substations > so they can link neighborhoods in shared Internet service. The capital > costs are relatively low because the wires are already in place. > > The closer each piece of equipment is, the faster the service provided. > But homes in each substation area must share Internet access; as with > cable-TV modems, the more subscribers in a neighborhood, the slower the > Internet access for each home. > > Current Technologies in Germantown, Md., is offering hardware and > software for utilities to implement broadband over power lines. One of > Current Technologies' investors is Google, which is also seeking to > finance citywide WiFi networks. > > In Cincinnati, Current Technologies and the local utility, Cinergy, are > signing up thousands of customers for broadband service for as little as > $27 a month, said Richard Goldstein, managing director of Liberty > Associated Partners, which owns Current Technologies. Power companies > are moving fast because the cost of retrofitting the power grid for > Internet service is inexpensive -- about a third of the cost to make > phone or cable-TV lines Internet-ready, he said. > > The attractions are plentiful for both consumers and power companies, > and that's why the Telecommunications Industry Association predicts that > BPL equipment and service will become a multibillion-dollar industry in > the next five years, said Bill Moroney, president of the United Power > Line Council, a utility industry group. > > Since BPL is sometimes faster and possibly cheaper, it gives consumers > another choice, Moroney said. Rural consumers don't always have phone or > cable-TV service, but they typically have power lines. > > The utilities like BPL because they can lease their power lines out to > Internet service providers such as EarthLink. > > ``They're going for a twofer,'' says Joyce Putscher, an analyst at > market researcher In-Stat in Scottsdale, Ariz. ``The productivity gain > alone makes it worth the investment. On top of that, they can get > revenues from Internet service. It seems pretty compelling.'' > > BPL can also help them manage their power grids more efficiently, said > Gary Stuebing, manager of powerline communications at Duke Power, a > utility in Charlotte, N.C. > > Too often, Stuebing said, power companies have to wait until they get > complaints before they know where service is out. With the tracking > technology that is built into BPL, companies know exactly which homes > have access, and even which homes are illegally tapping the grid for > power. That, Moroney said, enables a utility to save $30 million a year > by implementing BPL in a major market. > > ``For us, this opens the gate to a more productive grid,'' Stuebing > said. ``And we can lease our lines to offer broadband service, Internet > telephony, video services, security and other services, too.'' > > PG&E, which provides much of the power in the Bay Area, doesn't plan to > sell Internet access, said spokesman Paul Moreno. But he said PG&E wants > to set up alliances with Internet service providers who could lease its > lines. > > Goldstein said Current Technologies is in talks to start a trial in Los > Angeles. San Diego has also begun its own BPL trial. > > ``We are very interested in exploring opportunities in these markets,'' > he said. > Contact Dean Takahashi at dtakahashi@mercurynews. com or (408) 920-5739. > ____________________________________________________________________________ _ Article: 323850 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" Subject: so, where is a good place to look for photos/drawings of grill work? Message-ID: <1128999505.2802d7821eddfbb601bd6ab93a0d6ffc@teranews> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:58:22 -0700 I just acquired a standard wind up phono where the grille work in front of the horn has been removed and replaced with some nailed on furring strips - looks simle enough to remove the furring and carve some new grill work, but a suitable pattern would be helpful. suggestions? (this is a floor standing console type unit) Also got a packard bell radio/phono/record recorder at the same time - kinda interesting unit, it's supposed to be dead from being plugged in and smoking - we shall see how serious the injury is maybe this coming weekend. it's a 1941 vintage item (no model # yet, I'll get it when I can get the thing out of the car - it's heavy). I figure the worst case is a smoked transformer - are these type consoles worth enough to restore "right", or should I just get it going with any suitable transformer that I may have lying around? It's a nice, but not totally spectacular cabinet, but the notion of rcording your own records is interesting to those young-uns who grew up on CD burners and iPods. -- Bill to Email me, repair this address and use it: william_ b_ noble at msn dot com also check out http://www.wbnoble.com Article: 323851 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Re: Murdock detector Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 21:11:41 -0600 Message-ID: <9950-434B2D6D-159@storefull-3332.bay.webtv.net> References: Haggis Got em! Thanks DON AC7PD Article: 323852 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <434B37C0.BF6CF9D1@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Zenith R7000-2 Transoceanic Need IC201 (#221-113) References: <1oudnUrS04ZWjtfeRVn-pA@conversent.net> <1128951799.632002.192430@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <542dnaXuoqPANtfeRVn-vw@conversent.net> <434ADA04.A1369250@earthlink.net> <434AFECB.C7F61046@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 03:54:11 GMT Paul Moyer wrote: > > Michael, > > All I have is a Zenith block diagram and the schematic that it's used in. I > wish I had a schematic of the part. I was talking about a schematic of the radio, if the IC's pins are properly numbered. I have several old National Semiconductor and other analog IC databooks from that era, and may be able to identify the part. I have to reverse engineer a number of circuits, so i have collected several hundred databooks, and about 10,000 datasheets in PDF. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 323853 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" Subject: free stuff - some radio/tv related, some not Message-ID: <1129006982.9b47f11c03664e9753d3dfecac82eca7@teranews> Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:02:58 -0700 free, just pay postage Item 0 - Sanyo UHF tuner, I've scribbled ~78 on it, so I presume that means I thought the TV it came out of was a 78 vintage - will fit fine in a flat rate envelope, it was working when I scrapped the TV or I wouldn't have saved it - I think I have a second similar tuner - same price (e.g. zero) Item 1 - bunch of IC sockets, some misc parts (new) including some CdS light sensors (they look like CdS anyway) couple of dollars for postage. can toss in some used IC sockets too if you want them - item 2 - 65 chevy wheel cylinder - I used to keep one of these trucks going for a friend - cylinder is used, looks like it would be fine if you just hone it and put a kit in it - I think we got a deal where new cost less than a kit, don't remember why I changed it. If no one wants it, it goes into the scrap bin. this will fit in a flat rate envelope, $4 postage item 2 - a spool of what used to be clear tubing that I got from Lockheed surplus sometime in the 70s and never used - the tubing is vinyl, I suppose, of some kind, and now has some white fuzz on it - if I haven't used it in 20 years I probably don't need it - spool is around 12 inches high and about 8 or 10 inches in diameter (it's in my garage and I don't want to go out there now and look at it). Ought to fit in a flat rate box, $8 postage - I was going to use this for fish tank hose, should be OK for low pressure air - at least the price is right - there must be hundreds of feet of this stuff. item 3 spool of fiber optic cable with ends on it - a masking tape tag says it's 101 meters, LeCoy Research. The cable will fit in a flat rate box if I discard the spool, so $8 for postage - it might fit in a flat rate envelope too, who knows. a tag near each end says "MaxLight". -- Bill to Email me, repair this address and use it: william_ b_ noble at msn dot com also check out http://www.wbnoble.com Article: 323854 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129005028.459877.66740@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Oh god, not THIS again........ Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 05:03:05 GMT "rayindesmoines" wrote in message news:1129005028.459877.66740@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > It's doomed to failure. Allentown PA just pulled the plug on their > system and it was one of the biggest ones. I think in in Virginia also > gave up. Cedar Rapids Iowa was a disaster. > > Too many problems with BPL interfering with licensed radio services, > and vise versa. Also, it is an old technology and there are better > things out there in the wi-fi arena. Yes, but it's a lot like alchemy--trying to turn Cu into Au. Article: 323855 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128972722.474896.295200@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <_xz2f.10$Xj4.1012@monger.newsread.com> <1128974013.648108.16480@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129007106.298582.39690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is this fake or what? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 05:07:58 GMT I'll see about picking it up while I'm in Marrakesh meeting Stephen Stills and Graham Nash. wrote in message news:1129007106.298582.39690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Phil Nelson wrote: > > > Maybe he believes this and was "taken" by the collector he purchased it > > > > I agree he might be an innocent boob (not everyone on Earth is a radio > > expert, believe it or not). That's why I suggested emailing him with a > > question before calling out the auction police. > > > > Phil Nelson > Hi, I did not email him because it seems he knows what he is talking > about,he > was selling a booklet before about repairing & fixing radios for > beginners, claiming he has some 35 years experience and there was a > photo shot of his lab etc...It is still of course possible that he is > taken by someone... > > It is also interesting that he was also selling an Atwater Kent but > nobody > bought it-as highly valuable radio...In one of the pictures it says > model 1 > but Atwater Kent model 1 never looked like that...I believe that is > fake too... > If anyone is interested in seeing another franken radio (: > http://www.gittigidiyor.com/php/urun.php?id=1056807 > Article: 323856 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128972722.474896.295200@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <_xz2f.10$Xj4.1012@monger.newsread.com> <1128974013.648108.16480@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129007106.298582.39690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is this fake or what? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 05:11:36 GMT How much do ya wanna venture that it's HIS SITE? Article: 323857 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128972722.474896.295200@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <_xz2f.10$Xj4.1012@monger.newsread.com> <1128974013.648108.16480@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129007106.298582.39690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129007791.887028.319730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is this fake or what? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 05:35:16 GMT wrote in message news:1129007791.887028.319730@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > I don't get it? I don't understand anything about Turkey but dervishes, Camel tobacco and Midnight Express. That leaves out Turkish too. How do I know anything without Babelfish anyway? I have more hunches than most women. If I'm wrong at least the rebutter took the time to look it up? The cheese already smells funny, and I don't want to go back and look.Turkey is all Greek to me (and I know that's a bad thing to say to either a Greek or a Turk)...;-) Article: 323858 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Zenith R7000-2 Transoceanic Need IC201 (#221-113) Date: Mon, 10 Oct 2005 22:17:37 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1oudnUrS04ZWjtfeRVn-pA@conversent.net> <1128951799.632002.192430@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <542dnaXuoqPANtfeRVn-vw@conversent.net> <434ADA04.A1369250@earthlink.net> <434AFECB.C7F61046@earthlink.net> <434B37C0.BF6CF9D1@earthlink.net> Michael A. Terrell wrote: > Paul Moyer wrote: > >>Michael, >> >>All I have is a Zenith block diagram and the schematic that it's used in. I >>wish I had a schematic of the part. > > > > I was talking about a schematic of the radio, if the IC's pins are > properly numbered. I have several old National Semiconductor and other > analog IC databooks from that era, and may be able to identify the part. > I have to reverse engineer a number of circuits, so i have collected > several hundred databooks, and about 10,000 datasheets in PDF. > It would not surprise me if this part was a rebadged National part. They were pretty much cock 'o the walk in the integrated analog IC arena at the time the R7000-2 was made. The schematic showing the offending IC can be downloaded at: http://transoceanic.nostalgiaair.org/r7000/7ksch.pdf The circuit is on page 8 -Scott Article: 323859 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129008971.739669.33130@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: fa last day RARE RCA RADIOLA 48 TUBE RADIO Message-ID: <%cI2f.45$Xj4.4153@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 05:38:03 GMT "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1129008971.739669.33130@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > this is actually a very nice radio. it has a pressed plywood front. > looks like carving. someone took the little legs off. it is a very > small console. there is a similar one on my website. you can see the > simple little legs. if it were a tad closer, i would buy it. yes, the > chassis is mounted vertically. It's cool but the OP threw a tantrum that would make ME look nice, Eddie...how silly. Article: 323860 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129009093.430410.200230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: fa last day RARE RCA RADIOLA 48 TUBE RADIO Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 05:42:09 GMT The inspiration for the Cowboys stadium in Irvine, Texas "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1129009093.430410.200230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > i didn't see the picture where they cut a hunk out of the top....yikes. > Article: 323861 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: Zenith R7000-2 Transoceanic Need IC201 (#221-113) Date: 11 Oct 2005 05:45:35 GMT Message-ID: References: <1oudnUrS04ZWjtfeRVn-pA@conversent.net> <1128951799.632002.192430@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <542dnaXuoqPANtfeRVn-vw@conversent.net> <434ADA04.A1369250@earthlink.net> "Paul Moyer" (markmell@110.net) writes: > Bill, > > It's a special treat to hear from a Zenith engineer. > > I don't believe the chip I'm looking for is an LM373. While I couldn't find > a data sheet, I did read descriptions that indicate the LM373 is more > complex then the 221-113 which, according to the Zenith block diagram for > their chip, is only a (simple?) variable gain IF amp and 3 stages of AGC > gain. The AGC portion of the IC looks more complex than the IF portion. > It isn't a match, based on the pinout you posted before. I did get out the datasheet for the LM373 to check. Michael Article: 323862 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1123543447.821036.107210@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1MSdnXA6GPcpaWrfRVn-qQ@comcast.com> <4349FF1D.9EE18225@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: HISTORY CHANNEL DOC NEEDS PROPS Message-ID: <2oK2f.13710$Fc4.9521@twister.nyc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:06:22 GMT Happens a lot. The transistor was supposedly patented in the 20s too. There's probably a lot of overlooked advances there. Salesmanship is as important as ingenuity in getting an invention to market. So is timing. Some ideas come before matching technology or demand. Just imagine a transistor radio built with 20s-era components and circuit design... Actually, that sounds like a fun project! Ray "Alan Douglas" wrote in message news:t2kkk1put3qfdpbmt82tkjqpalps9kg6r5@4ax.com... > Hi, > >>The WW2 development that made the difference > > Wendell Carlson patented AC bias in 1923 +/- but it was forgotten > for years. > > Alan Article: 323863 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 09:07:43 GMT I didn't use to have a problem getting parts until the tax laws here made it too expensive to stock them. They have to pay an inventory tax on parts sitting on their shelves each year. This is why manufacturers here have gone to "just in time" delivery instead of stocking things. It's also why every business likes to clear out their inventory at the end of the year. Less stuff in stock means less tax to pay. The Japanese _did_ try to supply parts for several years. I bought parts for very old stuff for many years. They were very sensitive to the old dictum that you couldn't get parts for an imported (fill in the blank) in the old days. I can remember getting parts from Sony and other brands that were stored in Asia instead of the U.S. You ordered the part(s) and they shipped in from overseas. I used to know instantly when they arrived by the Flying Tigers and other unique boxes. Support fell off in the 80s as quality was replaced by cheap. There was no percentage in fixing a 2-y.o. receiver you paid $150.00 for when you could replace it for less than the labor fee would come to. The increasing use of surface mount parts and ICs also made servicing a chore. Most shops wouldn't even take the things in. And Japan started outsourcing in the 80s too, repeating our mistake. This meant that they became dependant on others to supply things and back them up. In most every case those others didn't care about support. Their name and reputation weren't on it and most of it was made to throw away when it broke. They weren't concerned about sales resistance to imports. That era had passed. The Japanese eventually realized it too and stopped backing things as well as they once had. They no longer had to compete with brands that would. In Japan they have a culture of "old is bad" with consumer goods. Perfectly good equipment gets tossed to avoid the shame of having anyone see that you don't have the latest style. It wasn't always that way but conspicuous consumption is now the rule. Ironically, I (and many others) have sold old stuff TO the Japanese. They have a strong nostalgia market now too but nothing to fuel it. Secondhand or thrift shops are shameful. They also buy classic USA stuff, especially audio gear, to show off. Panasonic USA has had a bad attitude for as long as I can remember. In the 70s and early 80s it spawned a number of dealers who specialized in supplying parts for their stuff so you wouldn't have to deal with them. (Anybody remember PanSon Distributors?) Sony left parts sales to regional dealerships. Most would rather sell new equipment than little widgets and put up various roadblocks and minimum order rules to discourage it. Other brands were all over the map. I hated it when Akai went into video. They had a goofy little portable system that had a design flaw that required you to break things if the tape wouldn't eject in order to get inside. Their engineers circulated every 6 months and their English prevented easy consultation. They meant well but couldn't help much. At least parts were readily available. Remember when everybody thought they'd make a killing repairing VCRs or home computers? The idea was that people who wouldn't spend the money to fix their TV would spend it to fix that $1000-plus machine. By 1990 that dream was cold and dead as new stereo VCRs could be had for less than $200 and nobody wanted to bother with an old computer at all. The magic "D word" also doomed a lot of good stuff to the not-worth-repairing pile and Salvation Army stores. Suddenly nobody wanted to be seen with an analog tuner in their house and, like computers, they quickly became obsolete or failed and were too hard to service/not worth it. The days are gone when people would pay to repair a table radio or pocket radio. You can track the trend by looking at Sams Photofact offerings - as demand fell they dropped publication of transistor radio, tape recorder, and other series of publications. Now we are in what I call the "Dixie Cup era" - use it and dispose of it. I can't imagine anyone longing for their old $30.00 Cyberhome DVD player 25 years from now either. People bought into the cheap buy/toss it concept and manufacturers were generally glad to see it. Warranty claims are usually handled with complete exchanges rather than repairs (boy do I have some stories about that) as it is cheaper for small, low cost, items than paying techs. And service for larger items is pure hell now. Ray "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Generally Pacific-Rim electronics of the "vintage" (Pre-China) era are > reasonably well made but very poorly supported in the aftermarket. I > have two insights as to why this may be so, please the rest of you > chime in. They are: > > 1. They changed models, numbers, configurations and internal parts as > quickly as most _healthy_ people change their underwear. Contrast this > to Revox, Tandberg, Uher, Ampex, Advent and others. So, a great many of > their repair parts are unique-to-a-model. On the other hand, how many > Revox A77s are there out there with largely interchangeable parts. > 2. They sincerely did not expect their stuff to break, or if it did, it > would be within the original warranty period. So they felt no > particular reason to manufacture, stock or dedicate space to repair > parts needed in some unseeable future. > > Couple this with the Japanese mindset (that I experienced quite often > in the Middle East as well) that outside of cultural items, "Old is > Bad" (and if you disbelieve me, just look at their regulations on used > cars, and on annual vehicle inspections... it is TRULY cheaper in many > cases to purchase a new car over maintaining an used one). So, a > five-year-old, mass-produced, generic commodity-type item is of no > interest to them to maintain. Until fairly recently, Japan was the most > polluted country on earth. China is catching up, followed by India and > parts of Africa, but again this is illustrative of a mind-set. Chinese > goods never had a "quality base" to build on, they were from the git-go > the cheapest-possible-get-it-out-the-door manufacturers. > > On a regular basis, I am asked to "look at" pacific-rim stuff that has > crapped out. Unless it is a very obvious issue such as a blown internal > fuse or fusible link, or burnt wire or burnt resistor, I tend to give > the owner my regrets and suggest that he look for a replacement. The > stuff is seldom supported; parts if available are expensive; and a > major PITA to remove or install. > > I wanted to buy a Scroll Saw on Saturday, my 30-year old Craftsman bit > the dust all-at-once (switch, bearings, motor brushes). The first six I > looked at were Made in China, felt it and looked it. Finally I settled > on one "assembled in Mexico" (Skil) that did have some solidity. But I > wonder how long that will last. "They" say that our exports must equal > or exceed our imports in order for the Economy to remain (as) Strong > (as it is, anyway). Well, we are exporting jobs at such a massive clip > that we should be just fine, right? > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 323864 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: Subject: Re: Rider's CD/DVD Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 06:29:31 -0400 Message-ID: <434b9521$0$14233$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> "Daniele" wrote in message news:URz2f.6588$Pe2.150915@twister2.libero.it... > Referring to Ebay item 6567597619, > i was thinking to buy a DVD. Files in PDF. > Are them well scanned or have anyone > experienced troubles with bad images? > (i'd like to be sure they are worth the 45+shipp) > The scans are good quality. I bought this set a few weeks ago. The only issue I have is that the volume 12 .pdf file is corrupted on my dvd. I emailed the seller and they said they would send a replacement but so far I have not received it. I emailed again yesterday and have not received a response yet. Larry Article: 323865 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) Subject: Re: Motorola Take Apart Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:43:05 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1128842362.030368.203950@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In article <1128842362.030368.203950@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "RadioGary" wrote: > Hi Guys, > > It's winter project time in the great midwest. I'm attempting to > disassemble a Motorola 79XM21, pictured at > > http://radioatticarchives.com/images/m/Motorola_79XM21_Toppo.jpg > > She's working fine, but would like to get underside and recap it, make > it perfect. The problem is how do you get the chassis out completely? > It looks as though you have to remove the grill assembly in order the > clear the dial pointer mechanism. How in the world is this done? Has > anyone tackled this before? Is there any reference on how to > disassemble this set in particular somewhere? I'd appreciate a > knowledgable helping hand on this. Now I know why I like working on > consoles better . Thanks, GB. EMAIL is N9VU at yahoo dot com, > or just reply to subject here. Why fix it if it works OK even if not quite up to original specs? Keep in mind that you may also break something that's brittle or encounter that knob setscrew that won't come loose. You can easily end up wondering "Why didn't I leave well enough alone?" I definitely speak with some experience here ;-) I generally don't open up vacuum tube radios unless they are excessively dirty/mildewed, need a line cord replacement, have broken dial cords, have excessive hum, unacceptably scratchy or erratic pots or switches, or the radio plain doesn't work or is conspicuously sub par in its operation. IOW, I am content to maintain an antique radio rather than do a complete restoration (recapping, etc). I know I haven't answered your question but wanted to weigh in. Sincerely, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 Article: 323866 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? From: Larry References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:44:56 -0400 "Rune" wrote in news:zhL2f.13723$Fc4.12823@twister.nyc.rr.com: > Warranty claims are usually handled with complete exchanges rather > than repairs (boy do I have some stories about that) as it is cheaper > for small, low cost, items than paying techs. > > And service for larger items is pure hell now. > > Ray > If it's a big item, they simply ignore you. I talked to the guy who had the domain www.circuitcitysucks.net for a while. All he wanted was his $8K TV fixed. It was under warranty. Too expensive to just replace like that so the companies resisted. With the webpages pressure and people asking embarrassing questions at the sales counters, nationwide, they gave him a new TV and bought his domain for a handsome sum to get the story off the internet. Pop up the webpage today. CC turned it over to a spammer. Amazingly, I see CC has erased the cache of this webpage from Google! Wonder how much that cost 'em?...(c; You can still see stories and storage of the webpage, however by pasting: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&sa=G&q=%22circuitcitysucks.net%22 into your browser. These are webpages that contain the string circuitcitysucks.net. Evidently, the CC lawyers haven't threatened everyone....yet. -- Larry Article: 323867 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith R7000-2 Transoceanic Need IC201 (#221-113) From: Larry References: <1oudnUrS04ZWjtfeRVn-pA@conversent.net> <1128951799.632002.192430@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <542dnaXuoqPANtfeRVn-vw@conversent.net> <434ADA04.A1369250@earthlink.net> <434AFECB.C7F61046@earthlink.net> <434B37C0.BF6CF9D1@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 07:57:50 -0400 "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in news:difhto01m93@news3.newsguy.com: > http://transoceanic.nostalgiaair.org/r7000/7ksch.pdf Holy Ceramic Filters, Batman! Someone explain the operation of Q204 and Q205 just to the left of IC201 to the class. I've never seen a switched crystal substrate before! Vintage Zenith magic....(c; -- Larry Article: 323868 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: [O.T.] Re: Akai Factory Service? From: Larry References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128988366.262746.163530@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <6%E2f.481$Xp6.185@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:01:51 -0400 Carter-K8VT wrote in news:6%E2f.481$Xp6.185@newssvr24.news.prodigy.net: > Perot talked about that "gigantic sucking sound" and sadly, it looks > like he was right. Ross, where are you when we need you? > > If the CIA threatened my family, I'd have done exactly what he did.....disappear. -- Larry Article: 323869 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "MatC" Subject: Re: New to this - need help Re an Ekco C389 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 13:38:43 +0100 Message-ID: <3r1pvgFgfedaU1@individual.net> References: <3qv48tFghitrU1@individual.net> <3qvdmeFh0ndgU1@individual.net> <1128956562.536790.23800@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1128956562.536790.23800@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > GO FOR IT! > > And please keep us posted as to progress. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Well I bought the schematics, and I've pulled the chassis out Hoovered the inside out completely and got rid of the 70 odd year old fluff. One of the capacitors has definatly had it, theres gunk leaking out of the bottom, so that will need replacing... Article: 323870 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:48:45 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Is this fake or what? References: <1128972722.474896.295200@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <_xz2f.10$Xj4.1012@monger.newsread.com> <1128974013.648108.16480@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129007106.298582.39690@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <1ba74$434bb4ae$4232bd3e$2174@COQUI.NET> siliconvalleyEE@gmail.com wrote: >> > It is also interesting that he was also selling an Atwater Kent but > nobody > bought it-as highly valuable radio...In one of the pictures it says > model 1 > but Atwater Kent model 1 never looked like that...I believe that is > fake too... > If anyone is interested in seeing another franken radio (: > http://www.gittigidiyor.com/php/urun.php?id=1056807 Thats not even a good attempt at a fake anything. -BM Article: 323871 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ianto Subject: Re: Zenith R7000-2 Transoceanic Need IC201 (#221-113) Message-ID: <4fgnk1lpfphh5hk9pgbt51b7fk7qi6k94h@4ax.com> References: <1oudnUrS04ZWjtfeRVn-pA@conversent.net> <1128951799.632002.192430@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <542dnaXuoqPANtfeRVn-vw@conversent.net> <1128976727.394637.260300@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 08:47:10 -0500 On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 19:14:10 -0400, "Paul Moyer" wrote: >The 221-113 IC has a logo on it that looks like a large S with an H across >is mid-section. This is the logo used by Siemens. Mike Capel capel AT mts DOT net Article: 323872 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" Subject: Buffer caps Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:00:11 GMT A friend is restoring a car from 1940 and wants the radio rebuilt. It's complete but filled with old wax caps. The general rebuild should be easy but the power supply presents a problem. It is (of course) a vibrator system so it will need buffer caps. Is there a source for such a beast anymore? I haven't thought about buffers in decades. ray Article: 323873 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:02:00 GMT "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96EC4F39D95Cnoone@63.223.7.253... > . > > Amazingly, I see CC has erased the cache of this webpage from > Google! > Try the "Wayback Machine". http://web.archive.org/web/20030201081338/http://www.circuitcitysucks.net/ jim menning Article: 323874 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:13:01 GMT Yep, big items get ignored or "taken to the shop", never to be seen again. Usually the eternal stall, blaming the mfr. Your choice what mfr stands for... Google lets web stuff expire after a while. Lots of disappeared sites out there and they didn't save squat from them. But they aren't meant to save everything and keep it available for free. They don't even save all the newsgroup postings anymore. (Remember when it was dejanews?) There IS a place that does save websites, though. Check out: http://www.waybackmachine.org/ Circuitcitysucks.net is still there. Ray "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96EC4F39D95Cnoone@63.223.7.253... > "Rune" wrote in > news:zhL2f.13723$Fc4.12823@twister.nyc.rr.com: > >> Warranty claims are usually handled with complete exchanges rather >> than repairs (boy do I have some stories about that) as it is cheaper >> for small, low cost, items than paying techs. >> >> And service for larger items is pure hell now. >> >> Ray >> > > If it's a big item, they simply ignore you. I talked to the guy who had > the domain www.circuitcitysucks.net for a while. All he wanted was his > $8K > TV fixed. It was under warranty. Too expensive to just replace like that > so the companies resisted. With the webpages pressure and people asking > embarrassing questions at the sales counters, nationwide, they gave him a > new TV and bought his domain for a handsome sum to get the story off the > internet. Pop up the webpage today. CC turned it over to a spammer. > > Amazingly, I see CC has erased the cache of this webpage from Google! > Wonder how much that cost 'em?...(c; > You can still see stories and storage of the webpage, however by pasting: > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&lr=&sa=G&q=%22circuitcitysucks.net%22 > into your browser. These are webpages that contain the string > circuitcitysucks.net. Evidently, the CC lawyers haven't threatened > everyone....yet. > > -- > Larry Article: 323875 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "MatC" Subject: Re: New to this - need help Re an Ekco C389 Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:44:11 +0100 Message-ID: <3r21amFhjtieU1@individual.net> References: <3qv48tFghitrU1@individual.net> <3qvdmeFh0ndgU1@individual.net> <1128956562.536790.23800@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <3r1pvgFgfedaU1@individual.net> <1129035872.433881.131030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1129035872.433881.131030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > Hoovered.... > > A Brit? > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Yup, a Brit! (Is that bad...) Could have said "Dysoned" which might have really confused you, but has become the modern replacement for "hoovered".. (In our house anyway) Mat Milton Keynes, UK Article: 323876 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <434BD090.13C88155@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Zenith R7000-2 Transoceanic Need IC201 (#221-113) References: <1oudnUrS04ZWjtfeRVn-pA@conversent.net> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:46:15 GMT tschw10117@aol.com wrote: > > I can only speculate that Sony did that as a result of an error in the > PC board layout. > > Terry S. > > Some-time PC board designer. > Been there, done that. It was used in quite a few models. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 323877 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <434BD146.C3147247@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Zenith R7000-2 Transoceanic Need IC201 (#221-113) References: <1oudnUrS04ZWjtfeRVn-pA@conversent.net> <1128951799.632002.192430@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <542dnaXuoqPANtfeRVn-vw@conversent.net> <434ADA04.A1369250@earthlink.net> <434AFECB.C7F61046@earthlink.net> <_6ednbEYtev0KtbeRVn-pA@comcast.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:49:18 GMT Bill Cohn wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > Bill Cohn wrote: > > > >>Zenith never made their own semiconductors. They did have them made > >>specially for them by many of the well known semiconductor houses like > >>Motorola, Texas Instruments, Fairchild and Phillips. Most of the IC's > >>used in the R7000-2 were off the shelf parts at the time as the > >>production run of this radio was small. They were either TI or National > >>parts. Zenith used the National LM373 in that radio for part of the run > >>but I think they changed the design in the later versions of the chassis. > >> > >>Regards, > >> > >>Bill Cohn > >>Former Zenith Engineer 1973-1994 > > > > > > > > I can't find a schematic, or I could probably find a replacement. > > They may have pulled stunts like Sony where they would use a standard IC > > with the leads bent up instead of down. You could use the standard IC by > > soldering it to the bottom of the board. I did this to a number of Sony > > TVs in the '70s. > > > > I recall seeing a booklet from Zenith that had the pinouts of their > > custom IC numbers. BTW, do you remember the Zenith chroma chip on a > > nine pin tube base? > > > > > Michael, > > I remember that chroma chip. It was a Fairchild part. It look pretty > funny in the middle of all the tubes in that chassis. Zenith had not > started to use PC boards in their TV sets at that time. That came a > little later. > > Bill The original was a dark gray body with a black epoxy top. I junk a lot of Zenith color TVs because that part was hard to find. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 323878 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <434BD210.3ADBD576@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: testing a transducer? References: <1128938083.233323.265000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:52:40 GMT Peter Wieck wrote: > > S-uper > W-ild > A-ss > G-uess > > SWAG > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA S-illy W-ild A-ss G-uess or S-tupid W-ild A-ss G-uess It all depends on who is making the SWAG! ;-) -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 323879 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Bill Jeffrey Subject: Re: testing a transducer? References: <1128938083.233323.265000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128945642.584320.212650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1128952000.514326.260700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <07adnRx24ZCMUNfeRVn-hw@comcast.com> <1128977446.241136.228330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128980065.028624.318730@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128998997.748677.122190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129028735.954400.214850@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <4mQ2f.40700$K91.38509@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 14:53:52 GMT electron@grapevine.net wrote: > My guess above is that by sticking your finger on it, you're possibly > 'bending' the circuit enough that the emitted frequency(s) fall into > the 'window' that the receiver can work with (I am sure that the > receiver expects to see a ultrasonic tone for each function within some > +- frequency limits.) Maybe the receiver schematics would have the frequency(s)? > Sounds like a good possibility to me. Do you have an audio oscillator that goes up to 50 KHz or so? IIRC, a lot of these things operated at about 44 KHz. Perhaps you could drive the transducer (gently) or a small tweeter with the oscillator, and check an AGC or signal-strength point in the receiver. By tuning the oscillator, you could find the magic frequency. The thing is probably pulse-modulated, and you won't have the correct modulation (so none of the functions will work), but it would at least confirm operation of the transducer and receiver. And if you have a scope or (better) a counter, you can check the frequency of the transmitter, and figure out if it is way off base. Umm, maybe more work than it's worth ... but if nothing else is getting you anywhere ... Bill Article: 323880 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <1129041041.564498.65550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: John Orr mag tape history needed Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 10:06:08 -0500 Message-ID: <434bd4e3$0$3762$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> http://www.oanow.com/servlet/Satellite?c=MGArticle&cid=1031779976767&pagename=OAN/MGArticle/OAN_BasicArticle&path= http://www.quantegy.com/history.asp http://www.hbs.edu/bhr/archives/abstracts/vol67.html http://www.electrical.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5244 http://www.suntimes.com/output/news/cst-nws-notape13.html "wagil" wrote in message news:1129041041.564498.65550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Can anyone tell me where to find info about the history of the John Orr > mag tape company in Alabama? > > Any help/info/cluse appreciated > > Wayne > wagil@aol.com > Article: 323881 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <434BDDAD.45FC821B@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:42:15 GMT Larry wrote: > > CC turned it over to a spammer. More than likely they simply forgot to renew the domain and it was bought when it hit the market. Some of Motorola's old pager site names redirect you to porn, now. There is a huge market in buying expired domains, and for a lot of reasons. I got a lot of e-mails from Network Solutions trying to sell me http://www.michaelterrell.com, for $5,000. Its still not a valid URL, and it will stay that way as long as they hold it hostage. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 323882 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <434BDE0A.12AB6D5@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: John Orr mag tape history needed References: <1129041041.564498.65550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 15:43:48 GMT wagil wrote: > > Can anyone tell me where to find info about the history of the John Orr > mag tape company in Alabama? > > Any help/info/cluse appreciated > > Wayne > wagil@aol.com Was that Orrtronics? -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 323883 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Re: [O.T.] Re: Akai Factory Service? Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 09:39:57 -0600 Message-ID: <28548-434BDCCD-1179@storefull-3335.bay.webtv.net> References: Ross Perot has some sort of a seminar here in Bozeman Mt today or tomorrow. Too lazy to get the paper right now but will if anyone needs details. DON AC7PD Article: 323884 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Re: [O.T.] Re: Akai Factory Service? Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 09:58:19 -0600 Message-ID: <28548-434BE11B-1185@storefull-3335.bay.webtv.net> References: <28548-434BDCCD-1179@storefull-3335.bay.webtv.net> Heres the info if anyone cares. Sort of on topic. http://bozemandailychronicle.com/articles/2005/10/07/news/perot.prt DON AC7PD Article: 323885 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <434BE40E.C8BC8F72@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Zenith R7000-2 Transoceanic Need IC201 (#221-113) References: <1oudnUrS04ZWjtfeRVn-pA@conversent.net> <1128951799.632002.192430@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <542dnaXuoqPANtfeRVn-vw@conversent.net> <434ADA04.A1369250@earthlink.net> <434AFECB.C7F61046@earthlink.net> <434B37C0.BF6CF9D1@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:09:30 GMT Larry wrote: > > "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in > news:difhto01m93@news3.newsguy.com: > > > http://transoceanic.nostalgiaair.org/r7000/7ksch.pdf > > Holy Ceramic Filters, Batman! > > Someone explain the operation of Q204 and Q205 just to the left of IC201 to > the class. I've never seen a switched crystal substrate before! > > Vintage Zenith magic....(c; > > -- > Larry Come on, Larry. They are simple FET switches to select the IF filters. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 323886 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <434BE4CC.91BD9E63@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Zenith R7000-2 Transoceanic Need IC201 (#221-113) References: <1oudnUrS04ZWjtfeRVn-pA@conversent.net> <1128951799.632002.192430@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <542dnaXuoqPANtfeRVn-vw@conversent.net> <434ADA04.A1369250@earthlink.net> <434AFECB.C7F61046@earthlink.net> <434B37C0.BF6CF9D1@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:12:39 GMT "Scott W. Harvey" wrote: > > It would not surprise me if this part was a rebadged National part. They > were pretty much cock 'o the walk in the integrated analog IC arena at > the time the R7000-2 was made. > > The schematic showing the offending IC can be downloaded at: > > http://transoceanic.nostalgiaair.org/r7000/7ksch.pdf > > The circuit is on page 8 > > -Scott Thanks, Scott, I'll do some research and see if I can find anything. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 323887 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <434BDDAD.45FC821B@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:35:27 GMT You should contact ICANN about that one. You don't have to be Madonna to beat their blackmail. I'd bet it's not even NS in the first place but a scam. "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:434BDDAD.45FC821B@earthlink.net... > Larry wrote: > > > > CC turned it over to a spammer. > > > More than likely they simply forgot to renew the domain and it was > bought when it hit the market. Some of Motorola's old pager site names > redirect you to porn, now. There is a huge market in buying expired > domains, and for a lot of reasons. I got a lot of e-mails from Network > Solutions trying to sell me http://www.michaelterrell.com, for $5,000. > Its still not a valid URL, and it will stay that way as long as they > hold it hostage. > > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 323888 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128938083.233323.265000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128945642.584320.212650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1128952000.514326.260700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <07adnRx24ZCMUNfeRVn-hw@comcast.com> <1128977446.241136.228330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128980065.028624.318730@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128998997.748677.122190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129027960.480811.222370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: testing a transducer? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:40:14 GMT Hey, I'm an expert at those, and one actually panned out here. "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1129027960.480811.222370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > S-uper > W-ild > A-ss > G-uess > > SWAG > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 323889 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128938083.233323.265000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128945642.584320.212650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1128952000.514326.260700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <07adnRx24ZCMUNfeRVn-hw@comcast.com> <1128977446.241136.228330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128980065.028624.318730@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128998997.748677.122190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129028735.954400.214850@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: testing a transducer? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:42:50 GMT wrote in message news:1129028735.954400.214850@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Definitely a 'piezo' type of transducer (expect to read infinity with > an ohmmeter.) There's one SWAG I had right Article: 323890 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1123543447.821036.107210@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1MSdnXA6GPcpaWrfRVn-qQ@comcast.com> <4349FF1D.9EE18225@earthlink.net> <2oK2f.13710$Fc4.9521@twister.nyc.rr.com> Subject: Re: HISTORY CHANNEL DOC NEEDS PROPS Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 16:47:42 GMT Bipolar tends to do that in any case, you know. Please, no hecklers :-) "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:PvWdnVkRoe1zPdbeRVn-ig@comcast.com... > > Just imagine a transistor radio built with 20s-era components > > and circuit design... > > If you tried to do it with '20s-era circuit design, it wouldn't work. > Bipolar transistors have the irritating characteristic of a lower input than > output impedance, which really messes up circuit design. > > Article: 323891 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Buffer caps Message-ID: <0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:27:24 GMT I don't know what model 1940 car you have, so I can't look it up. However at least 90% of car radios out there take a .0068uf, 1600v cap. I've got a big stock of (dare I say it?) Orange Drops here, just for the purpose. If you have an electronics parts store in your neighborhood, chances are pretty good they have it. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Rune" wrote in message news:LzP2f.13750$Fc4.11913@twister.nyc.rr.com... >A friend is restoring a car from 1940 and wants the radio rebuilt. It's >complete but filled with old wax caps. The general rebuild should be easy >but the power supply presents a problem. It is (of course) a vibrator >system so it will need buffer caps. > > Is there a source for such a beast anymore? I haven't thought about > buffers in decades. > > ray > Article: 323892 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128938083.233323.265000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128945642.584320.212650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1128952000.514326.260700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <07adnRx24ZCMUNfeRVn-hw@comcast.com> <1128977446.241136.228330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128980065.028624.318730@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128998997.748677.122190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129028735.954400.214850@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129050818.162277.121010@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: testing a transducer? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:47:10 GMT "frenchy" wrote in message news:1129050818.162277.121010@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > I'm finding that these ultrasonic remotes can have a single 'base' > frequency and then the modulated frequency(s) for the specific > function)s). Tonight I will try tweaking the slug on that big coil in > the unit (the one my finger affects), I am starting to think that is > the part that determines the 'base' frequency, it is the one connected > across the transducer, all the other adjustable caps feed into that. > That paper cap may have affected things as was suggested. Sounds a lot like the Touchtone matrix to me. If the coil isn't too far gone, can you shield it? Article: 323893 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128938083.233323.265000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128945642.584320.212650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1128952000.514326.260700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <07adnRx24ZCMUNfeRVn-hw@comcast.com> <1128977446.241136.228330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128980065.028624.318730@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128998997.748677.122190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129028735.954400.214850@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129050818.162277.121010@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: testing a transducer? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:48:18 GMT Or maybe I should ask is it shorting aginst something that you touch? "frenchy" wrote in message news:1129050818.162277.121010@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > I'm finding that these ultrasonic remotes can have a single 'base' > frequency and then the modulated frequency(s) for the specific > function)s). Tonight I will try tweaking the slug on that big coil in > the unit (the one my finger affects), I am starting to think that is > the part that determines the 'base' frequency, it is the one connected > across the transducer, all the other adjustable caps feed into that. > That paper cap may have affected things as was suggested. > Article: 323894 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128938083.233323.265000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128945642.584320.212650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1128952000.514326.260700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <07adnRx24ZCMUNfeRVn-hw@comcast.com> <1128977446.241136.228330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128980065.028624.318730@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128998997.748677.122190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129028735.954400.214850@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129050818.162277.121010@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1129054036.501491.153570@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: testing a transducer? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 18:25:19 GMT Well, than you need to measure it's inductance against a published spec or the voltage across it, but unless it's physically changed since manufacture, I wouldn't see what some of that would mean. The slug might have taken a bad hit or somebody has modified or removed parts since day one is my other theory. Fourty years is a long time to go without a tinkerer having at it. "frenchy" wrote in message news:1129054036.501491.153570@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > It is a big coil in center of remote, only coil in there, with a tiny > tunable slug in it. Four different lugs. It has a plastic cover, when > I put my finger near or on the plastic cover it is either affecting > strength or frequency of what's coming out of the thing. My guess is > it's not a shielding problem but the fact that it's not tuned right in > the first place, but just a guess. > Article: 323895 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: d Subject: I Have Discovered... References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 18:49:29 GMT ...after doing some research that there were some TO's that were built with greater coverage of the spectrum than others. There is a very, very meaningful upgrade starting with the H500 and another upgrade starting with the A600. Sooo, I think my best choice for a "daily driver" (a very good way to describe what I had in mind, Peter!) will be an A600 or a B600. Second best choices -though still entirely acceptable- will be an H500, L600, R600, T600, or Y600. Many thanks to all those that replied. The links and advice provided will be put to good use! d wrote: > Of the different TUBE Transoceanics which, if any, are the overall most > desirable? > > I will define "desirable" here as being best to actually *use* as a > radio day-in day-out, not collectability. Which is to say best sounding, > most reliable, easiest to work on, best availability of parts, best > sensitivity, etc, etc. I'm sure you get the idea. > > Or is there no meaningful difference in them as they are *all* quite good? > > Thanks in advance for any and all replies. Article: 323896 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Buffer caps Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:28:35 GMT So a regular HV cap will do? Or does it have to be paper? Ray "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... >I don't know what model 1940 car you have, so I can't look it up. However >at least 90% of car radios out there take a .0068uf, 1600v cap. I've got a >big stock of (dare I say it?) Orange Drops here, just for the purpose. > > If you have an electronics parts store in your neighborhood, chances are > pretty good they have it. > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > "Rune" wrote in message > news:LzP2f.13750$Fc4.11913@twister.nyc.rr.com... >>A friend is restoring a car from 1940 and wants the radio rebuilt. It's >>complete but filled with old wax caps. The general rebuild should be easy >>but the power supply presents a problem. It is (of course) a vibrator >>system so it will need buffer caps. >> >> Is there a source for such a beast anymore? I haven't thought about >> buffers in decades. >> >> ray >> > > Article: 323897 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1123543447.821036.107210@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1MSdnXA6GPcpaWrfRVn-qQ@comcast.com> <4349FF1D.9EE18225@earthlink.net> <2oK2f.13710$Fc4.9521@twister.nyc.rr.com> Subject: Re: HISTORY CHANNEL DOC NEEDS PROPS Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:41:20 GMT I guess I should have said construction & design methods instead of circuit design. It would be interesting to see how they would have coped with transistors with the clunky capacitor, coil, and primative design ideas of that era outside of a lab. Small wonder it didn't find a waiting market. It was ahead of the rest of the components and engineering/manufacturing of the time. Ray "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:PvWdnVkRoe1zPdbeRVn-ig@comcast.com... >> Just imagine a transistor radio built with 20s-era components >> and circuit design... > > If you tried to do it with '20s-era circuit design, it wouldn't work. > Bipolar transistors have the irritating characteristic of a lower input > than > output impedance, which really messes up circuit design. > > Article: 323898 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128948157.011331.72020@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129062528.329725.94080@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT for this Group, But: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:45:36 GMT Classified are only free if your item is under a specified amount or for parts offered/wanted, it's a $2 Paypal payment for other classifieds. All other forums are free after registration. Yes, they have fa shizzle, super dope, put the wide track in yer ride, they own the show and built the Matrix, homepiece. Peace out! "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1129062528.329725.94080@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Peter, have you tried the AudioKarma forums? Very nice group of folks > who have a LOT of gear sitting around. They accumulate audio gear like > we do radio parts. Always helpful and friendly which cannot always be > said of audio groups (names withheld to protect the guilty). > www.audiokarma.com I believe. There is a free classifieds and Wanted > area or you may be able to get away with a request in the Vintage SS or > Tube forum, whichever applies. > Article: 323899 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128948157.011331.72020@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129062528.329725.94080@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129062767.947585.137600@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT for this Group, But: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:48:41 GMT You were hip to that trip, dad. I'm so outta here. Well, I got no money to pay the bills today, so I is a poet, Lorriette. At least I'm laughing now. "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1129062767.947585.137600@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Yes, I have, thank you. > > > www.audiokarma.org > > is the correct URL. > > I will try again. Last time I asked about AR electronics I got several > offers for mine.... > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 323900 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128948157.011331.72020@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129062528.329725.94080@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129062767.947585.137600@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT for this Group, But: Message-ID: <5BV2f.103$Xj4.9094@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:51:13 GMT Don't diss my self-therapy. "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message news:JyV2f.102$Xj4.9074@monger.newsread.com... > You were hip to that trip, dad. I'm so outta here. > > Well, I got no money to pay the bills today, so I is a poet, Lorriette. > > At least I'm laughing now. > > "Peter Wieck" wrote in message > news:1129062767.947585.137600@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Yes, I have, thank you. > > > > > > www.audiokarma.org > > > > is the correct URL. > > > > I will try again. Last time I asked about AR electronics I got several > > offers for mine.... > > > > Peter Wieck > > Wyncote, PA > > > > Article: 323901 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Spokesman" References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:09:29 GMT "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96EB67AA0FFCnoone@63.223.7.253... > "Rune" wrote in > news:9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com: > > > I seem to recall that Akai doesn't have _any_ connection to their old > > products anymore, not even parts or manuals. > > > > > > Typical Jap company. Anything beyond 5 years is disposable, even the > Lexus. Actually the lexus is just a toyota. You're supposed to buy constant new items from them and let the > trash man have last year's model for the landfill. Seen any restored > Datsuns or Toyopets at a car show? (Sure would like to have my 2-cylinder > Honda S-600 that got 65mpg back...[snif]) > > Matsushita Electric, the Panasonic people, closed Technics lock, stock and > barrel. Technics organs were some of the finest, most trouble-free > instruments ever sold. Their keyboards like the KN-6000 and 7000 were the > finest ever made. But, when I call Panasonic for parts to fix a $28,000 > console organ, these days, they have amnesia all of a sudden. They won't > release the parts left to anyone who might store them, copy parts that sell > and keep them running, like several old Hammond companies did. Nope...toss > 'em and buy some new stuff from us.... > > Good luck with your Akai. Hope nothing fails on my Pioneer RT-707. > There's no parts to fix it, either. > > -- > Larry Article: 323902 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:30:54 GMT "Spokesman" wrote in message news:dSV2f.106$Xj4.9225@monger.newsread.com... > > "Larry" wrote in message > news:Xns96EB67AA0FFCnoone@63.223.7.253... > > "Rune" wrote in > > news:9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com: > > > > > I seem to recall that Akai doesn't have _any_ connection to their old > > > products anymore, not even parts or manuals. > > > > > > > > > > Typical Jap company. Anything beyond 5 years is disposable, even the > > Lexus. > > Actually the lexus is just a toyota. Until you see the rapair bills. Hello Wightman Internet customer (wightman.on.ca)...Welcome and join in our little "fireside chat". It's always nice to have someone north of insanity join us! > You're supposed to buy constant new items from them and let the > > trash man have last year's model for the landfill. Seen any restored > > Datsuns or Toyopets at a car show? (Sure would like to have my 2-cylinder > > Honda S-600 that got 65mpg back...[snif]) > > > > Matsushita Electric, the Panasonic people, closed Technics lock, stock and > > barrel. Technics organs were some of the finest, most trouble-free > > instruments ever sold. Their keyboards like the KN-6000 and 7000 were the > > finest ever made. But, when I call Panasonic for parts to fix a $28,000 > > console organ, these days, they have amnesia all of a sudden. They won't > > release the parts left to anyone who might store them, copy parts that > sell > > and keep them running, like several old Hammond companies did. > Nope...toss > > 'em and buy some new stuff from us.... > > > > Good luck with your Akai. Hope nothing fails on my Pioneer RT-707. > > There's no parts to fix it, either. > > > > -- > > Larry > > Article: 323903 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Saul Rabinowitz Subject: Re: John Orr mag tape history needed References: <1129041041.564498.65550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <434BDE0A.12AB6D5@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:51:49 GMT Michael A. Terrell wrote: > wagil wrote: > >>Can anyone tell me where to find info about the history of the John Orr >>mag tape company in Alabama? >> >>Any help/info/cluse appreciated >> >>Wayne >>wagil@aol.com > > > > Was that Orrtronics? > I remember the name as "Orradio." And the brand as "Irish." Either that or I'm having a senior moment. Or a bad hair day. Or I'm getting bald. Saul Article: 323904 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: d Subject: Re: I Have Discovered... References: <1129065793.882718.250730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:59:06 GMT Better late than never! I am still entitely open to suggestions. Does the big wavemagnet for shortwave (which seems to NOT have been included on later models) seem to be helpful? Or is the sensitivity you mention a result of circuitry inside that was better than other models? And was it circuitry or a simply a better speaker that makes them sound better than other models? nc183d@aol.com wrote: > Just a late entry here, but for sensitivity, sound (important) and > ease, the 8G005YT. A nice set. > Article: 323905 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: WD-II TUBES Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 17:16:59 -0500 Message-ID: <1407-434C39DB-329@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: DON'T WORRY YOUR PRETTY LITTLE HEAD IT WON'T END UP IN THE LAND FILL. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 323906 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <434C3F43.253B3636@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: HISTORY CHANNEL DOC NEEDS PROPS References: <1123543447.821036.107210@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1MSdnXA6GPcpaWrfRVn-qQ@comcast.com> <4349FF1D.9EE18225@earthlink.net> <2oK2f.13710$Fc4.9521@twister.nyc.rr.com> Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:38:47 GMT Rune wrote: > > I guess I should have said construction & design methods instead of circuit > design. It would be interesting to see how they would have coped with > transistors with the clunky capacitor, coil, and primative design ideas of > that era outside of a lab. > > Small wonder it didn't find a waiting market. It was ahead of the rest of > the components and engineering/manufacturing of the time. The "transistor" you are talking about would be a "Field Effect Transistor". The thing that stopped development was that metallurgy wasn't up to making the pure metals needed to manufacture the parts. When Bell labs made their first hand made point contact transistors they realized it was going to take a lot of work to develop a useful manufacturing process. That is why they released it to other companies, so they would pay most, or all of the development costs. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 323907 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: John Orr mag tape history needed References: <1129041041.564498.65550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <434BDE0A.12AB6D5@earthlink.net> <434C3E27.92B0C552@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 23:09:11 GMT >>>>Can anyone tell me where to find info about the history of the John Orr >>>>mag tape company in Alabama? >>>> There was piece on History Detectives on PBS a while back. You might search PBS online to see what they have. Ron Article: 323908 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1128972722.474896.295200@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is this fake or what? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 20:01:27 -0400 wrote in message news:1128972722.474896.295200@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > This cathedral radio is listed as from 1930's and higly valuable > antique... > It seems fake to me...The speaker is newish, the chassis is more like > from > a transoceanic, the cabinet seems a cheasy far east copy... > Any body has an opinion? > Thanks! > http://www.gittigidiyor.com/php/urun.php?id=1072005 > Chassis looks to be European origin... Judging by the IF transformer style. I can't make out the tuning capacitor assembly? Maybe a slug tuning rack inductance tuned set??? Cabinet sure looks like a post 70s cheap repro. The grille cutouts aren't reminescent of of any pre WWII styles I've ever seen. Pete Article: 323909 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: A Good Clough-Brengle day Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 00:02:19 GMT Hi Gang, it's been a good Clough-Brengle day here at Radio Heaven. Just after lunch FedEX delivered a large package containing a Clough-Brengle model 87 transmitter. This is the one shown on Clough-Brengle transmitters web page, http://radioheaven.homestead.com/CB87.html About 5 years ago I lost it to another bidder on ebay in the last few seconds. About 6 weeks ago I got an email from Bill Fizette telling me a friend of his knew someone that had a C-B model 87 for sale. The model number didn't register at first so when I got a digital photo of it I almost dropped my teeth. The turned out to be the same one that I lost on ebay. The winner finally decided to let it go. Thank goodness I heard about before it got taken to a hamfest and sold. With all the searching I've done I feel fairly confident saying that this may well be the only surviving example of the transmitter. On the above web page you'll see photos of it that were used on the original ebay listing, plus a couple of vintage photos of Civilian Conservation Corp. stations in the 30s using this model transmitter. Now the fun starts, there is some internal damage that occurred when it was shipped after the ebay sale. I also picked up at the PO today a Clough=Brengle model 125 tube tested. This brings the C-B collection to 23 pieces. If you're interested, keep an eye on the above page for updates on the repair/preservation process. Best Regards, Ron KC4YOY http://radioheaven.homestead.com Article: 323910 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "DumpsterDiver" Subject: Will this make a good booster for my CB radio? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 00:04:34 GMT Looks like what I need to kick butt on 11 meters. Anybody have good plans for a "foot warmer" using maybe a pair of these? http://cgi.ebay.com/electron-tube-BW1185J2_W0QQitemZ6568992569QQcategoryZ7275QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem DD Article: 323911 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Buffer caps Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 19:17:55 -0500 Message-ID: <434c545e_3@newspeer2.tds.net> "Rune" wrote in message news:DnU2f.13784$Fc4.2954@twister.nyc.rr.com... > So a regular HV cap will do? Or does it have to be paper? Does not have to be paper. I use orange dips. Article: 323912 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Will this make a good booster for my CB radio? Message-ID: <6IY2f.113$Xj4.11680@monger.newsread.com> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 00:23:30 GMT Yaah, DD, you can be a crispity critter in notime with one of them there thingies! Amaze your neighbors, amuse your friends...why can't the Chinese stick to cheap stuff the first time around Guess it is almost Halloween...wonder how long it will take Radio Beijing to notice it missing? "DumpsterDiver" wrote in message news:mqY2f.414268$5N3.293336@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > Looks like what I need to kick butt on 11 meters. > > Anybody have good plans for a "foot warmer" using maybe a pair of these? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/electron-tube-BW1185J2_W0QQitemZ6568992569QQcategoryZ7275QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > DD > > Article: 323913 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129041041.564498.65550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <434BDE0A.12AB6D5@earthlink.net> <434C3E27.92B0C552@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: John Orr mag tape history needed Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 00:28:15 GMT "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:rCX2f.1903$OM.106027@twister.southeast.rr.com... > >>>>Can anyone tell me where to find info about the history of the John Orr > >>>>mag tape company in Alabama? > >>>> > > There was piece on History Detectives on PBS a while back. > You might search PBS online to see what they have. > > Ron I believe that interesting program may be produced by our very own Oregon Public Broadcasting IIRC...they are certainly becoming the WGBH of the NW. Article: 323914 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: A Good Clough-Brengle day Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 00:26:10 GMT Can I borrow some of your luck? Darn. That rocks, Ron! "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:foY2f.1913$OM.109896@twister.southeast.rr.com... > Hi Gang, it's been a good Clough-Brengle day here at Radio Heaven. > Just after lunch FedEX delivered a large package containing > a Clough-Brengle model 87 transmitter. This is the one shown > on Clough-Brengle transmitters web page, > http://radioheaven.homestead.com/CB87.html > About 5 years ago I lost it to another bidder on ebay in the last > few seconds. About 6 weeks ago I got an email from Bill Fizette > telling me a friend of his knew someone that had a C-B model 87 > for sale. The model number didn't register at first so when I got > a digital photo of it I almost dropped my teeth. > The turned out to be the same one that I lost on ebay. > The winner finally decided to let it go. Thank goodness I heard > about before it got taken to a hamfest and sold. > With all the searching I've done I feel fairly confident saying that > this may well be the only surviving example of the transmitter. > On the above web page you'll see photos of it that were used > on the original ebay listing, plus a couple of vintage photos of > Civilian Conservation Corp. stations in the 30s using this model > transmitter. > Now the fun starts, there is some internal damage that occurred > when it was shipped after the ebay sale. > > I also picked up at the PO today a Clough=Brengle model 125 > tube tested. This brings the C-B collection to 23 pieces. > > If you're interested, keep an eye on the above page for updates > on the repair/preservation process. > > Best Regards, > > Ron KC4YOY > http://radioheaven.homestead.com Article: 323915 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128972722.474896.295200@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Is this fake or what? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 00:47:52 GMT "norml" wrote in message news:dsmok1pj78veg4e6kvfgi777h6crh51jt7@4ax.com... > " Uncle Peter" wrotf: > > > > >Chassis looks to be European origin... > > Likely not with a 117V rectifier. > > Norm I get the odd sense that we've been to this site a few times previously. Article: 323916 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Will this make a good booster for my CB radio? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 00:57:43 GMT I'm boggled as to who would be allowed to sell such a thing in China, on US eBay, and then say "local" pickupwith a 5,000 dollar US opening bid. He may or may not be legit, but he's a cheap bozo...I flagged him and can't wait for gaunt men in nice suits to ask me if I like Jackie Chan... "DumpsterDiver" wrote in message news:mqY2f.414268$5N3.293336@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > Looks like what I need to kick butt on 11 meters. > > Anybody have good plans for a "foot warmer" using maybe a pair of these? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/electron-tube-BW1185J2_W0QQitemZ6568992569QQcategoryZ7275QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > DD > > Article: 323917 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? From: Larry References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:02:02 -0400 "Rune" wrote in news:NLP2f.13751$Fc4.312@twister.nyc.rr.com: > Yep, big items get ignored or "taken to the shop", never to be seen > again. Usually the eternal stall, blaming the mfr. Your choice what > mfr stands for... > Yamaha tried to pull that crap in 1997. I bought an $8,500, 135HP, Yamaha GP1200 Waverunner (jetski). It's made in Neenan, GA....not on Pluto. Simple parts, like the front storage hood that came scratched, are unavailable in 6 months to replace it. The engine crank separated, because of the way it's made in little pieces and pressed together/pinned. Local tech replaced everything (carbs/electronics/anything outside the block). Yamaha, because engines are more than the $1000 resistance level every consumer product that's expensive to fix bumps into, refused to simply ship a new engine from Neenan, GA to Charleston to fix it. The first 5000 boats were cracking hulls because the engine and heavy gas tank mounts were pushing their way through the plastic hulls. Of course, there'd never be a recall on a jetski, no matter how much it cost, unless lawyers were asking why it was killing 200 kids. It sat, 2 weeks out of ever month, in the mud behind the shop, uncovered, disassembled, with the jets overhead landing at the airport pouring fuel and soot onto it....ignored as you say. But, alas, LARRY was holding all the cards. I let them talk me into the bogus Yamaha Credit Card so I could get the no-money-down/no interest for 6 months/no payments until September scam....and the dealer could get his healthy kickback, which was more important of course. Not having a dime in it, I simply returned it for a full refund under FEDERAL LAW 15USC50 Section 2304(a)(4)...which states: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode15/usc_sup_01_15_10_50.html http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode15/usc_sec_15_00002304----000- .html "(4) if the product (or a component part thereof) contains a defect or malfunction after a reasonable number of attempts by the warrantor to remedy defects or malfunctions in such product, such warrantor must permit the consumer to elect either a refund for, or replacement without charge of, such product or part (as the case may be). The Commission may by rule specify for purposes of this paragraph, what constitutes a reasonable number of attempts to remedy particular kinds of defects or malfunctions under different circumstances. If the warrantor replaces a component part of a consumer product, such replacement shall include installing the part in the product without charge." God I love that part....(c; Notice it says it's up to the CONSUMER....not the dealer...not the manufacturer....not some arbitrator....not a company bureaucrat....THE CONSUMER to elect either a FULL REFUND or a NEW UNIT...not a rebuilt unit...not a reconditioned, used, cellphone like Verizon Wireless tries to shit on you...a new unit. I chose to return the boat. They refused to receive it. I never paid for it. They tried threats. I hired a lawyer. He tried to get them to ruin my spotless 37 year credit so HE could have that new home on the ocean at Isle of Palms and I could have that new E-class Mercedes I'd been drooling over....(c; We never could get them to trash us or take us to court. They know what the law says....FEDERAL LAW....USE IT! Everyone should read the whole law. It's written in plain English, really! "They" don't want you to. If you sell to consumers, it might be a good idea to download: http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/warranty.htm which explains, in great detail, just what your shop's responsibility is to your consumers. I downloaded and FAX'd this entire booklet to my boat dealer during the night. He left his fax machine on...(c; I thought he needed a copy, don't you?...(c; Obviously, he didn't know what his responsibilities were, because he said just because he sold me a new boat doesn't mean he has to do anything to fix it when it sucks. FTC says he was wrong.....Every consumer needs to read this booklet! It's like getting the keys to the inner office. AS long as it has a written warranty, even a limited warranty, it's enforced. You know where they always put this disclaimer in every warranty telling you they have no responsibility to "implied warranties" of merchantability or suitability for a particular purpose....trying to weasle out of them? Look in the booklet and read the law where it says this is all bullshit! They CANNOT weasle out of the two implied warranties, just because their lawyer writing the warranty says they can.....nope...not even close! By the way, if you tell 'em it works....it MUST work. You've created an implied warranty of merchantability...just by saying that. -- Larry I'm not a lawyer, but I learned a lot. I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, once! Article: 323918 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: A Good Clough-Brengle day From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 21:08:04 -0400 Ron in Radio Heaven wrote in news:foY2f.1913$OM.109896@twister.southeast.rr.com: > http://radioheaven.homestead.com Wow, Ron....Turn off Javascript and hit this webpage. Either one you get this huge background and nothing else....like they're trying to punish dialups with javascript turned off. I suppose homestead is a free webpage place? -- Larry Article: 323919 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: A Good Clough-Brengle day References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:20:57 GMT Larry wrote: > Wow, Ron....Turn off Javascript and hit this webpage. Either one you get > this huge background and nothing else....like they're trying to punish > dialups with javascript turned off. > It works just fine here, I guess folks need to turn Javascript ON. Ron Article: 323920 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: I Have Discovered... Message-ID: References: <1129065793.882718.250730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:28:33 GMT Phil, I read through your TO gallery. Thanks for putting that up; it's a very interesting site. I was able to determine that the TO I once had was definitely an 8G005Y, being as it had Loktal tubes and the flip-down lower front cover. But the "built-in" manual was missing. I know I don't have it now, but I can't remember whether it got sold or lost somehow. I sure wish I still had it. Gordon Richmond Article: 323921 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Buffer caps Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:41:54 GMT Why in the world would you want to replace it with paper? So it can go bad again? It's true that some types of capacitors have certain characteristic advantages over others when used for a specific purpose, but in this case there is positively no advantage to using a paper capacitor, when today's ceramics are infinitely better. This is why paper caps are obsolete. To my knowledge nobody makes paper caps anymore -- if they did I would ask why. Sometimes we make jokes about orange drops, because an old radio chassis looks very unoriginal with them installed. However they are top notch quality, and will take very good care of your vibrator investment. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Rune" wrote in message news:DnU2f.13784$Fc4.2954@twister.nyc.rr.com... > So a regular HV cap will do? Or does it have to be paper? > > Ray > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... >>I don't know what model 1940 car you have, so I can't look it up. However >>at least 90% of car radios out there take a .0068uf, 1600v cap. I've got >>a big stock of (dare I say it?) Orange Drops here, just for the purpose. >> >> If you have an electronics parts store in your neighborhood, chances are >> pretty good they have it. >> >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> >> >> "Rune" wrote in message >> news:LzP2f.13750$Fc4.11913@twister.nyc.rr.com... >>>A friend is restoring a car from 1940 and wants the radio rebuilt. It's >>>complete but filled with old wax caps. The general rebuild should be easy >>>but the power supply presents a problem. It is (of course) a vibrator >>>system so it will need buffer caps. >>> >>> Is there a source for such a beast anymore? I haven't thought about >>> buffers in decades. >>> >>> ray >>> >> >> > > Article: 323922 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Will this make a good booster for my CB radio? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:45:20 GMT Invest in this and some fluorescent lights. You can keep the neighborhood lit up without the use of extension cords! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "DumpsterDiver" wrote in message news:mqY2f.414268$5N3.293336@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > Looks like what I need to kick butt on 11 meters. > > Anybody have good plans for a "foot warmer" using maybe a pair of these? > > http://cgi.ebay.com/electron-tube-BW1185J2_W0QQitemZ6568992569QQcategoryZ7275QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > DD > > Article: 323923 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: testing a transducer? References: <1128938083.233323.265000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128945642.584320.212650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1128952000.514326.260700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <07adnRx24ZCMUNfeRVn-hw@comcast.com> <1128977446.241136.228330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128980065.028624.318730@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128998997.748677.122190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129028735.954400.214850@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4mQ2f.40700$K91.38509@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Message-ID: <50_2f.136$Jo3.90@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:53:05 GMT Bill Jeffrey wrote: > By tuning the oscillator, you could find the > magic frequency. The thing is probably pulse-modulated, and you won't > have the correct modulation (so none of the functions will work), but it > would at least confirm operation of the transducer and receiver. From what I gathered, looking at the schematic, it's a simple multiple frequency transmitter. The rocker switches simply add varying amounts of capacitance across the oscillator to put out the "correct" frequency for a given function. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 323924 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: testing a transducer? References: <1128938083.233323.265000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128945642.584320.212650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1128952000.514326.260700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <07adnRx24ZCMUNfeRVn-hw@comcast.com> <1128977446.241136.228330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128980065.028624.318730@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128998997.748677.122190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129028735.954400.214850@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4mQ2f.40700$K91.38509@twister.nyroc.rr.com> <1129043624.062486.94040@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <52_2f.137$Jo3.75@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:55:13 GMT frenchy wrote: >It has quite a > few other ceramic caps and adjustable caps in there that are specific > each frequency that I didn't mess with. If you look carefully at the schematic, you can see which "function" has only one, then only two trimmers across it and so forth. That way, you can tune each one sequentially. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 323925 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: WD-II TUBES References: <1407-434C39DB-329@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:57:04 GMT Bill Turner wrote: > DON'T WORRY YOUR PRETTY LITTLE HEAD IT WON'T END UP IN THE LAND FILL. It's not for me Bill, I don't want any of it. I'm saying you've worked hard to accumulate things and you need to attend to the "eventualities" as they say. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 323926 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Will this make a good booster for my CB radio? Message-ID: <48_2f.118$Xj4.12401@monger.newsread.com> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:01:36 GMT Invest in a good lawyer fluent in Chinese too, you might need him. "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:QUZ2f.9810$oc.3353@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Invest in this and some fluorescent lights. You can keep the neighborhood > lit up without the use of extension cords! > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > "DumpsterDiver" wrote in message > news:mqY2f.414268$5N3.293336@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > > Looks like what I need to kick butt on 11 meters. > > > > Anybody have good plans for a "foot warmer" using maybe a pair of these? > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/electron-tube-BW1185J2_W0QQitemZ6568992569QQcategoryZ7275QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > > DD > > > > > > Article: 323927 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 22:15:07 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Buffer caps References: <0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <80bb9$434c71ac$4232bea6$31162@COQUI.NET> Gary Tayman wrote: > ceramics are infinitely better. This is why paper caps are obsolete. To my > knowledge nobody makes paper caps anymore -- if they did I would ask why. I think there's some boutique audio folks who "hand roll" their precision caps with paper and beeswax from the finest bees to the tune of about $22 a pop. Yeah, we could ask why but we really know why :) -Bill Article: 323928 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:15:10 GMT My goodness, Larry, should've bought a pair of horn tweeters and dividing networks from the 70s! A nice guy named Elijah actually went to the trouble of IDing and listing the specs on the parts when I wanted to sell them for a friend...I think it helped me make more money and I had more confidence selling an M-80 amp and c-60 preamp later as I felt I could deal with a company that still respects it's older products. Jetski? Audio? I made made nearly 500 dollars with those sales. You spent that much on a lawyer. One word: Kawasaki "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96ECD5CA45649noone@63.223.7.253... > "Rune" wrote in > news:NLP2f.13751$Fc4.312@twister.nyc.rr.com: > > > Yep, big items get ignored or "taken to the shop", never to be seen > > again. Usually the eternal stall, blaming the mfr. Your choice what > > mfr stands for... > > > > Yamaha tried to pull that crap in 1997. I bought an $8,500, 135HP, Yamaha > GP1200 Waverunner (jetski). It's made in Neenan, GA....not on Pluto. > Simple parts, like the front storage hood that came scratched, are > unavailable in 6 months to replace it. The engine crank separated, because > of the way it's made in little pieces and pressed together/pinned. Local > tech replaced everything (carbs/electronics/anything outside the block). > Yamaha, because engines are more than the $1000 resistance level every > consumer product that's expensive to fix bumps into, refused to simply ship > a new engine from Neenan, GA to Charleston to fix it. The first 5000 boats > were cracking hulls because the engine and heavy gas tank mounts were > pushing their way through the plastic hulls. Of course, there'd never be a > recall on a jetski, no matter how much it cost, unless lawyers were asking > why it was killing 200 kids. It sat, 2 weeks out of ever month, in the mud > behind the shop, uncovered, disassembled, with the jets overhead landing at > the airport pouring fuel and soot onto it....ignored as you say. > > But, alas, LARRY was holding all the cards. I let them talk me into the > bogus Yamaha Credit Card so I could get the no-money-down/no interest for 6 > months/no payments until September scam....and the dealer could get his > healthy kickback, which was more important of course. Not having a dime in > it, I simply returned it for a full refund under FEDERAL LAW 15USC50 > Section 2304(a)(4)...which states: > http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode15/usc_sup_01_15_10_50.html > > http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode15/usc_sec_15_00002304----000- > .html > > "(4) if the product (or a component part thereof) contains a defect or > malfunction after a reasonable number of attempts by the warrantor to > remedy defects or malfunctions in such product, such warrantor must permit > the consumer to elect either a refund for, or replacement without charge > of, such product or part (as the case may be). The Commission may by rule > specify for purposes of this paragraph, what constitutes a reasonable > number of attempts to remedy particular kinds of defects or malfunctions > under different circumstances. If the warrantor replaces a component part > of a consumer product, such replacement shall include installing the part > in the product without charge." > > God I love that part....(c; > > Notice it says it's up to the CONSUMER....not the dealer...not the > manufacturer....not some arbitrator....not a company bureaucrat....THE > CONSUMER to elect either a FULL REFUND or a NEW UNIT...not a rebuilt > unit...not a reconditioned, used, cellphone like Verizon Wireless tries to > shit on you...a new unit. > > I chose to return the boat. They refused to receive it. I never paid for > it. They tried threats. I hired a lawyer. He tried to get them to ruin > my spotless 37 year credit so HE could have that new home on the ocean at > Isle of Palms and I could have that new E-class Mercedes I'd been drooling > over....(c; > > We never could get them to trash us or take us to court. They know what > the law says....FEDERAL LAW....USE IT! Everyone should read the whole law. > It's written in plain English, really! "They" don't want you to. > > If you sell to consumers, it might be a good idea to download: > http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/warranty.htm > which explains, in great detail, just what your shop's responsibility is to > your consumers. I downloaded and FAX'd this entire booklet to my boat > dealer during the night. He left his fax machine on...(c; I thought he > needed a copy, don't you?...(c; Obviously, he didn't know what his > responsibilities were, because he said just because he sold me a new boat > doesn't mean he has to do anything to fix it when it sucks. FTC says he > was wrong.....Every consumer needs to read this booklet! It's like getting > the keys to the inner office. AS long as it has a written warranty, even a > limited warranty, it's enforced. > > You know where they always put this disclaimer in every warranty telling > you they have no responsibility to "implied warranties" of merchantability > or suitability for a particular purpose....trying to weasle out of them? > Look in the booklet and read the law where it says this is all bullshit! > They CANNOT weasle out of the two implied warranties, just because their > lawyer writing the warranty says they can.....nope...not even close! > > By the way, if you tell 'em it works....it MUST work. You've created an > implied warranty of merchantability...just by saying that. > > -- > Larry > I'm not a lawyer, but I learned a lot. I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, > once! Article: 323929 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Zenith R7000-2 Transoceanic Need IC201 (#221-113) References: <1oudnUrS04ZWjtfeRVn-pA@conversent.net> <1128951799.632002.192430@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <542dnaXuoqPANtfeRVn-vw@conversent.net> <434ADA04.A1369250@earthlink.net> <434AFECB.C7F61046@earthlink.net> <434B37C0.BF6CF9D1@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:16:17 GMT Paul Moyer wrote: > Michael, > > I just posted the internal block diagram for IC201 (#221-113 Well, I can't think of what the "Oh, I know" the IC-201 is, but I'm fairly certain that the IC-202 is an old friend, the RCA 3028A. I used to go through a lot of those in some late 60s designs. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 323930 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Buffer caps Message-ID: <%l_2f.120$Xj4.12429@monger.newsread.com> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:16:27 GMT I'm pretty sure I bought one last month. "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:DP6dnbqSTr5n89HeRVn-jQ@comcast.com... > gary, > an electronics parts store carrying a 1600v cap? Not anymore! 630 is the > top mylar voltage for most sources, and they dont stock discs much anymore. > You wont find any HV caps at Radio Shack... > I keep a stock of HV discs and a few orange drops here for buffers. > > Mark Oppat > > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > > I don't know what model 1940 car you have, so I can't look it up. However > > at least 90% of car radios out there take a .0068uf, 1600v cap. I've got > a > > big stock of (dare I say it?) Orange Drops here, just for the purpose. > > > > If you have an electronics parts store in your neighborhood, chances are > > pretty good they have it. > > > > > > > > -- > > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > > > > > "Rune" wrote in message > > news:LzP2f.13750$Fc4.11913@twister.nyc.rr.com... > > >A friend is restoring a car from 1940 and wants the radio rebuilt. It's > > >complete but filled with old wax caps. The general rebuild should be easy > > >but the power supply presents a problem. It is (of course) a vibrator > > >system so it will need buffer caps. > > > > > > Is there a source for such a beast anymore? I haven't thought about > > > buffers in decades. > > > > > > ray > > > > > > > > > > > > Article: 323931 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: A Good Clough-Brengle day Message-ID: <%o_2f.121$Xj4.12442@monger.newsread.com> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:19:39 GMT It's fine in 98SE. I use an SiS 6326? based Diamond Speedstar A50 AGP 8X and it was fine from dialup then as now in DSL. What's in your graphics engine? "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:ZxZ2f.1928$OM.114980@twister.southeast.rr.com... > Larry wrote: > > Wow, Ron....Turn off Javascript and hit this webpage. Either one you get > > this huge background and nothing else....like they're trying to punish > > dialups with javascript turned off. > > > > It works just fine here, I guess folks need to turn Javascript ON. > > Ron Article: 323932 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <80bb9$434c71ac$4232bea6$31162@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Buffer caps Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:21:08 GMT Where do they get their practice? "Bill" wrote in message news:80bb9$434c71ac$4232bea6$31162@COQUI.NET... > Gary Tayman wrote: > > > > ceramics are infinitely better. This is why paper caps are obsolete. To my > > knowledge nobody makes paper caps anymore -- if they did I would ask why. > > I think there's some boutique audio folks who "hand roll" their > precision caps with paper and beeswax from the finest bees to the tune > of about $22 a pop. Yeah, we could ask why but we really know why :) > > -Bill Article: 323933 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: S-38E Hallicrafters parts Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 02:32:03 GMT The rest of an S-38E wouldn't hurt. "GBrown" wrote in message news:l-OdnZKWesAYpNHenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@gwi.net... > > Subject says it all, what mite you need? > Regards, > Gary... > > > Article: 323934 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Buffer caps Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2005 23:43:32 -0600 Message-ID: References: <0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <80bb9$434c71ac$4232bea6$31162@COQUI.NET> "Bill" wrote in message news:80bb9$434c71ac$4232bea6$31162@COQUI.NET... > Gary Tayman wrote: > > >> ceramics are infinitely better. This is why paper caps are obsolete. To >> my knowledge nobody makes paper caps anymore -- if they did I would ask >> why. > > I think there's some boutique audio folks who "hand roll" their precision > caps with paper and beeswax from the finest bees to the tune of about $22 > a pop. Yeah, we could ask why but we really know why :) cause they did too much 'hand rolling' in the 60's! randy Article: 323935 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" Subject: Wester Electric 300B triode Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 07:39:30 GMT How would someone use such a tube in home audio? Omer http://cgi.ebay.com/Wester-Electric-300B-triode-Vaccum-tube-Y_W0QQitemZ5818519268QQcategoryZ73381QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Article: 323936 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbelly Subject: Re: A Good Clough-Brengle day Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 04:03:42 -0400 On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 01:20:57 GMT, Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: >Larry wrote: >> Wow, Ron....Turn off Javascript and hit this webpage. Either one you get >> this huge background and nothing else....like they're trying to punish >> dialups with javascript turned off. >> > >It works just fine here, I guess folks need to turn Javascript ON. > >Ron looks great here... Article: 323937 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Stein-Olav Lund Subject: Re: Buffer caps Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 12:01:41 +0200 Message-ID: References: <0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <80bb9$434c71ac$4232bea6$31162@COQUI.NET> Bill wrote: > Gary Tayman wrote: > > >> ceramics are infinitely better. This is why paper caps are obsolete. >> To my knowledge nobody makes paper caps anymore -- if they did I would >> ask why. > > > I think there's some boutique audio folks who "hand roll" their > precision caps with paper and beeswax from the finest bees to the tune > of about $22 a pop. Yeah, we could ask why but we really know why :) > > -Bill A while ago a colleague at work wanted me to take some measurements on his tube amp (model ELLA, made in China, using p-p EL34's) The amp was nicely built, but had those awful 'hand-wound beeswax' coupling caps to the final grids, ant they leaked quite a bit! With four new polypropylene caps the EL34's were happy with stable quiescent current. I couldn't hear the difference, nor could the owner... Stein Article: 323938 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Buffer caps Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 11:16:02 GMT "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:DP6dnbqSTr5n89HeRVn-jQ@comcast.com... > gary, > an electronics parts store carrying a 1600v cap? Not anymore! 630 is > the > top mylar voltage for most sources, and they dont stock discs much > anymore. > You wont find any HV caps at Radio Shack... > I keep a stock of HV discs and a few orange drops here for buffers. > > Mark Oppat Mark's got a point. The local electronics shop here only stocks 1000 volt ceramic caps, not dips. I've found that the caps from the usual antique radio shops online tend to cost less as well, even with shipping figured in. FWIW - my local shop is Unicorn Electronics: http://www.unicornelex.com I use them mostly for general supplies like GC chemicals or shrink tubing, but also get my resistors and capacitors there when I need them in a pinch or only need one or two. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 323939 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: Rider's CD/DVD Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 13:28:40 GMT Radio Data has been good to me. I had a problem with printing the schematics that went away with the 7.x version of Acrobat Reader. RD responds rapidly to my emails and problems. I needed a replacement set early on for some problem. I think files were not opening. The sent me a new disk promptly. I must better master the on disk index. I find myself frequently going to Nostalgia Air to look up the schematic then to the disk to work with it. RECOMMENDED HIGHLY! Paul. "Daniele" wrote in message news:URz2f.6588$Pe2.150915@twister2.libero.it... > Referring to Ebay item 6567597619, > i was thinking to buy a DVD. Files in PDF. > Are them well scanned or have anyone > experienced troubles with bad images? > (i'd like to be sure they are worth the 45+shipp) > > -- > > Daniele ^___^ > http://www.tuberadio.it > > Article: 323940 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: 71A, 371's: What makes them AC or DC? Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 10:08:33 +0200 Message-ID: <1f5a5703cc4d2d4404e9392d0d3b6872@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> The later AC TRF's and period tech info insist upon using 371's or other "AC" rated tubes. It's a directly heated cathode- what makes it better for AC opereation instead of DC? -Pete O. Article: 323941 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1129123900.789686.109180@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Buffer caps Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:07:17 GMT I suppose I'm among the lucky ones -- I have a very good parts store right here in town, Sarasota Electronics. I'm not sure if they have 1600v caps on the wall anymore, but they indeed have 1kv caps (some radios, such as the 55 Ford 5MF8 I just finished, use a .01 1kv buffer) and they have 3kv types. If I need parts they don't have in stock, they can order them. Mail-order shops like Mouser, MCM, and Digi-Key, not to mention AES, have these parts, but it's tough to mail-order one capacitor -- unless you want to include a T-shirt or book with your order. For me, remembering I do this as a business, if I need to place a mail order, I check my stock of capacitors, light bulbs, and other components, and take the opportunity to replenish my stock. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com wrote in message news:1129123900.789686.109180@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... >> If you have an electronics parts store in your neighborhood, chances are >> pretty good they have it. > > Does anyone still have a neighborhood electronics parts store? > Article: 323942 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1129123813.861122.306780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Buffer caps Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:02:54 GMT If the neighborhood is 30 miles away, yes. wrote in message news:1129123813.861122.306780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > If you have an electronics parts store in your neighborhood, chances are > > pretty good they have it. > > Does anyone still have a neighborhood electronics parts store? > Article: 323943 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1129123900.789686.109180@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Buffer caps Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:04:23 GMT Correction--had uF and V mixed up, don't know about 1600V. Sorry, I'll look next time. "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:pM83f.160$4O1.83@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > I suppose I'm among the lucky ones -- I have a very good parts store right > here in town, Sarasota Electronics. I'm not sure if they have 1600v caps on > the wall anymore, but they indeed have 1kv caps (some radios, such as the 55 > Ford 5MF8 I just finished, use a .01 1kv buffer) and they have 3kv types. > If I need parts they don't have in stock, they can order them. > > Mail-order shops like Mouser, MCM, and Digi-Key, not to mention AES, have > these parts, but it's tough to mail-order one capacitor -- unless you want > to include a T-shirt or book with your order. For me, remembering I do this > as a business, if I need to place a mail order, I check my stock of > capacitors, light bulbs, and other components, and take the opportunity to > replenish my stock. > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > wrote in message > news:1129123900.789686.109180@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > >> If you have an electronics parts store in your neighborhood, chances are > >> pretty good they have it. > > > > Does anyone still have a neighborhood electronics parts store? > > > > Article: 323944 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <1129041041.564498.65550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <434BDE0A.12AB6D5@earthlink.net> <434C3E27.92B0C552@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: John Orr mag tape history needed Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:21:35 -0400 "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:434C3E27.92B0C552@earthlink.net... > Saul Rabinowitz wrote: >> >> Michael A. Terrell wrote: >> > wagil wrote: >> > >> >>Can anyone tell me where to find info about the history of the John Orr >> >>mag tape company in Alabama? >> >> >> >>Any help/info/cluse appreciated >> >> >> >>Wayne >> >>wagil@aol.com >> > >> > >> > >> > Was that Orrtronics? >> > >> >> I remember the name as "Orradio." And the brand as "Irish." >> >> Either that or I'm having a senior moment. Or a bad hair day. Or I'm >> getting bald. >> >> Saul > > > I remember repairing a bunch of Orrtronics car tape players in the > '70s. I remember Bobby Orr the famous hockey player, from the same time period. :) Article: 323945 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Cointrola coin operated radio Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:38:11 -0400 Message-ID: <11kqm0mc3ehh8b7@news.supernews.com> References: <1128828039.005285.266130@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> wrote in message news:1128828039.005285.266130@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... >I came acrosss a vintage cointrola coin operated radio. Is there any > value to such an item? > Yes. Article: 323946 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Holler for Goller.......... Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 14:40:51 -0400 Message-ID: <11kqm5rdvo4rh0c@news.supernews.com> References: <11ki67jihfg8ce@corp.supernews.com> "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11ki67jihfg8ce@corp.supernews.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/VINTAGE-RCA-VECTOR-MODEL-19K-ANTIQUE-RADIO-PLAYER_W0QQitemZ6566727643QQcategoryZ38033QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > John H. Hmm, one of those extremely rare "RCA VECTOR " radio players. "What's the vector, Victor?" -- Airplane Article: 323947 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: A Good Clough-Brengle day References: <1129121199.966509.85330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 21:49:28 GMT shoppa@trailing-edge.com wrote: > Out of morbid curiosity, what was the nature of the shipping damage and > what's it gonna take to get it right? > > I've seen fine things damaged but it was always the seller's fault for > poor packaging. Poor packing the first time was exactly the problem. There's a large ceramic tank coil the wasn't secured and when UPS dropped the box, the ceramic spacers that the coil mounted on, snapped off. Then the big heavy coil was free to rattle around busting the 802 final tubes, an 83 and two smaller coils were damaged. The nice thing is there's nothing that can't be fixed with the correct vintage parts. Keep an eye on the web page for repair/preservation updates. Ron Article: 323948 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: A Good Clough-Brengle day Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:14:18 -0600 Message-ID: <5575-434D8ABA-169@storefull-3251.bay.webtv.net> References: I am on webtv and the equipment wont accept java .. i saw the pictures Article: 323949 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <11ki67jihfg8ce@corp.supernews.com> <11kqm5rdvo4rh0c@news.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Holler for Goller.......... Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 23:13:59 GMT "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message news:11kqm5rdvo4rh0c@news.supernews.com... > Hmm, one of those extremely rare "RCA VECTOR " radio players. > > "What's the vector, Victor?" -- Airplane Oh about 15 and one half bucks Article: 323950 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: F.S. Old SW radios Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 08:17:38 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Brian Hill" wrote in message news:hjz%e.12168$uD2.4510@fe05.lga... > I also have another version of P-780. It's the same radio but doesn't say > "Long Range" on the front and it doesn't have ant./gnd terminals on back > for external ant. Must have been the first run of these P-780s? It's > otherwise exactly the same. It needs the four electrolytics replaced, Very > easy to do on these radios. It has low volume because of it. It's in > excellent shape with one unoriginal Knob. $15 + S.H.12lbs Still got this one Brian?? Article: 323951 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <434DAA84.8BD587B0@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: John Orr mag tape history needed References: <1129041041.564498.65550@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <434BDE0A.12AB6D5@earthlink.net> <434C3E27.92B0C552@earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:28:18 GMT k35454 wrote: > > It was my experience that Irish Tape was terrible stuff: the > magnetic powder tended to shed rather easily and pile up on the > record/playback heads. k35454. What I saw of that brand was re-slit 2" video tape that was worn out on the early Ampex Reel to Reel tape machines. It wasn't slit very well, and you could see the diagonal lines from the video heads. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida From adouglasatgis.net Thu Oct 13 08:35:33 EDT 2005 Article: 323952 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Bell amp, WECo patent acknowledgement Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:10:23 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 12 Message-ID: <619rk1pe487kg0l4k2ktts5rv5pug8m9qn@4ax.com> References: <1129122865.159460.221400@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-344.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!rex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:323952 Hi, Marty wrote: >Think a WECo man, one Mr. Black, invented this about WW-I 1927, but I don't know when the feedback patent was actually issued. It could still have been in force in 1946. No idea about Bell Sound, but the 1948 Rider PA Manual has 74 pages of Bell schematics. Alan From adouglasatgis.net Thu Oct 13 08:35:33 EDT 2005 Article: 323953 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 71A, 371's: What makes them AC or DC? Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:19:11 -0400 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 9 Message-ID: References: <1f5a5703cc4d2d4404e9392d0d3b6872@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-492.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.glorb.com!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:323953 Hi, The only reason 71As were usable on AC was that speakers of that day couldn't reproduce 60 (or 120) Hz. Lower voltage drop across the heater helped: 45s were only 2.5V. 26s, as I remember reading, used heavier, higher-current filaments. Their operating voltage and current were a compromise between lowest electrostatic and magnetic hum. But the better radios used more expensive 27s as audio amplifiers. Alan Article: 323954 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <3qv48tFghitrU1@individual.net> <3qvdmeFh0ndgU1@individual.net> <1128956562.536790.23800@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <3r1pvgFgfedaU1@individual.net> <1129035872.433881.131030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <3r21amFhjtieU1@individual.net> <1129043847.386580.230290@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: New to this - need help Re an Ekco C389 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:20:40 -0700 After this discussion, I think a fag is in order!!! Bob (who used to have an English Nanny) "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1129043847.386580.230290@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Not bad at all. Just curious. I spent 2.5 years in Saudi, amongst quite > a few Brits. I learned early on that we are two peoples separated by a > common language....I believe Oscar Wilde said that first. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 323955 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1129123900.789686.109180@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Buffer caps Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 19:24:55 -0700 We have a couple left in PHX. Circuit Specialist being the one closest to me.... but then again, AES is right down the street... But they don't do counter sales, except on every Friday, when the moon is full and there are clouds... or some such non-sense... Its to bad too, I think they lost a lot of walk in trade that way... Bob in phx "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:nIqdnXNyCKXyqtDeRVn-tA@comcast.com... > same here, Gary, all the real electronics parts houses have gone... and, > the Detroit area was full of them up to 10 years ago. The shop I worked > at > in the late 70's had 12 employees, on a Saturday we had 4 guys on the > counter and lines backed up! That was the heyday of CB, too... we sold > about 3-4 mobile units per Saturday and another 4-6 during the week. And, > it was full rigs often too, with installs. So, that meant antenna, > mounting > kit of some kind, and install, a total of maybe $300 and that was real > money back then. I sold a lot of car stereos too, that was my area. But, > mainly, we were an electronics parts distributor... sold Sylvania ECG , > bulbs and tubes, Sprague electrolytics and orange drops, Centralab > controls, GC belts, chemicals and phono idlers, and everything > imaginable > for radio and (mostly then) TV repair. We took in tuners and CRT's for > rebuilding too. Learned all the lines back then. > > Mark Oppat > > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:pM83f.160$4O1.83@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> I suppose I'm among the lucky ones -- I have a very good parts store >> right >> here in town, Sarasota Electronics. I'm not sure if they have 1600v caps > on >> the wall anymore, but they indeed have 1kv caps (some radios, such as the > 55 >> Ford 5MF8 I just finished, use a .01 1kv buffer) and they have 3kv types. >> If I need parts they don't have in stock, they can order them. >> >> Mail-order shops like Mouser, MCM, and Digi-Key, not to mention AES, have >> these parts, but it's tough to mail-order one capacitor -- unless you >> want >> to include a T-shirt or book with your order. For me, remembering I do > this >> as a business, if I need to place a mail order, I check my stock of >> capacitors, light bulbs, and other components, and take the opportunity >> to >> replenish my stock. >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> >> >> wrote in message >> news:1129123900.789686.109180@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... >> >> If you have an electronics parts store in your neighborhood, chances > are >> >> pretty good they have it. >> > >> > Does anyone still have a neighborhood electronics parts store? >> > >> >> >> > > > Article: 323956 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Buffer caps Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 03:10:27 GMT I haven't thought about buffers in decades but everybody used to make a big deal about "regular" caps not being good enough. No, I wouldn't use paper by choice but I see a lot of paper-in-oil caps being flogged for old radios and relays and wanted to make sure I didn't have to hunt down something awful like them for this thing. I haven't worked on one of these things since I serviced some ride trucks 40+ years ago when you could still get actual buffer caps. Ray "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:CRZ2f.9808$oc.2415@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Why in the world would you want to replace it with paper? So it can go > bad again? > > It's true that some types of capacitors have certain characteristic > advantages over others when used for a specific purpose, but in this case > there is positively no advantage to using a paper capacitor, when today's > ceramics are infinitely better. This is why paper caps are obsolete. To > my knowledge nobody makes paper caps anymore -- if they did I would ask > why. > > Sometimes we make jokes about orange drops, because an old radio chassis > looks very unoriginal with them installed. However they are top notch > quality, and will take very good care of your vibrator investment. > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > "Rune" wrote in message > news:DnU2f.13784$Fc4.2954@twister.nyc.rr.com... >> So a regular HV cap will do? Or does it have to be paper? >> >> Ray >> >> "Gary Tayman" wrote in message >> news:0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... >>>I don't know what model 1940 car you have, so I can't look it up. >>>However at least 90% of car radios out there take a .0068uf, 1600v cap. >>>I've got a big stock of (dare I say it?) Orange Drops here, just for the >>>purpose. >>> >>> If you have an electronics parts store in your neighborhood, chances are >>> pretty good they have it. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >>> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >>> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >>> >>> >>> >>> "Rune" wrote in message >>> news:LzP2f.13750$Fc4.11913@twister.nyc.rr.com... >>>>A friend is restoring a car from 1940 and wants the radio rebuilt. It's >>>>complete but filled with old wax caps. The general rebuild should be >>>>easy but the power supply presents a problem. It is (of course) a >>>>vibrator system so it will need buffer caps. >>>> >>>> Is there a source for such a beast anymore? I haven't thought about >>>> buffers in decades. >>>> >>>> ray >>>> >>> >>> >> >> > > Article: 323957 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Dave Subject: Help - Need Dial Stringing Diagram for GE X-216A Message-ID: Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:14:04 -0700 Resurrected a GE X-216A and it plays nicely and has great sound. The dial string was missing when I got the radio. First attempt got the dial strung but the pointer going the wrong direction. Attempt two got the pointer going in the correct direction but when I went to put the chassis back in the case the dial string is in the way of the speaker. Does anyone have a dial stringing diagram for the GE X-216A. It's a 3 band wood case radio with a nice slide rule dial. I would assume this radio is late 1940's by it's styling. I can supply a photo of the radio if necessary. I got this radio at a car swap meet. The lady I bought it from kept insisting that it does not work - it's now only a decoration. Worked fine once I replaced the power cord and got a new speaker inside. The old speaker does not clear the dial string either by the way. Thanks, Dave N7RK reply to: n7rk@cox.net Article: 323958 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> <1129123813.861122.306780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Buffer caps Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 03:16:24 GMT The one I usually used for 4 decades folded last year after trying to switch to computer components. There's still one near the military base 10 miles >from here. I usually look online first if I don't have to get something right away. I doubt my local store has it anyway. They had a fire 2 years ago and everything in the place is new now. They salvaged very little (although a lot more could have been) and took insurance for all that old stock. I cried when I saw what was going in the dumpsters. Ray wrote in message news:1129123813.861122.306780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> If you have an electronics parts store in your neighborhood, chances are >> pretty good they have it. > > Does anyone still have a neighborhood electronics parts store? > Article: 323959 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <1123543447.821036.107210@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1MSdnXA6GPcpaWrfRVn-qQ@comcast.com> <4349FF1D.9EE18225@earthlink.net> <2oK2f.13710$Fc4.9521@twister.nyc.rr.com> <434C3F43.253B3636@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: HISTORY CHANNEL DOC NEEDS PROPS Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 03:26:02 GMT It's been years since I saw the patent papers for the thing and I don't remember the particulars. Is it online somewhere? There's an interesting series of "alternate history" books based on the idea that other civilizations might have developed transistors instead of tubes and that our using tubes threw a wrench in their attempt to invade Earth in the late '30 with EMP weapons Ray. "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:434C3F43.253B3636@earthlink.net... > Rune wrote: >> >> I guess I should have said construction & design methods instead of >> circuit >> design. It would be interesting to see how they would have coped with >> transistors with the clunky capacitor, coil, and primative design ideas >> of >> that era outside of a lab. >> >> Small wonder it didn't find a waiting market. It was ahead of the rest of >> the components and engineering/manufacturing of the time. > > The "transistor" you are talking about would be a "Field Effect > Transistor". The thing that stopped development was that metallurgy > wasn't up to making the pure metals needed to manufacture the parts. > When Bell labs made their first hand made point contact transistors they > realized it was going to take a lot of work to develop a useful > manufacturing process. That is why they released it to other companies, > so they would pay most, or all of the development costs. > > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 323960 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: HISTORY CHANNEL DOC NEEDS PROPS Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 03:34:18 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1123543447.821036.107210@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1MSdnXA6GPcpaWrfRVn-qQ@comcast.com> <4349FF1D.9EE18225@earthlink.net> <2oK2f.13710$Fc4.9521@twister.nyc.rr.com> <434C3F43.253B3636@earthlink.net> In "Rune" writes: >There's an interesting series of "alternate history" books based on the idea >that other civilizations might have developed transistors instead of tubes >and that our using tubes threw a wrench in their attempt to invade Earth in >the late '30 with EMP weapons Do you have the title of that book? Sounds like a fun read. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 323961 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128709563.578501.15340@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128941648.677322.183360@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Tips and Tricks Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 03:33:09 GMT Yes, I've seen your ad on AK. "Engineer" wrote in message news:ooGdnfAsd_hVU9DeRVn-pQ@rogers.com... > "Peter Wieck" wrote in message > news:1128941648.677322.183360@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > Roger: > > > > Your solution is elegant for those lamps that are not part of a > > circuit. In the case of the Dynaco (and perhaps the AR, I took no > > chances), the particular value of the lamp affects both the "Tuned" > > and > > "Stereo" circuits. This, such that if the lamps are either burnt out > > _or_ of the improper impedance-when-lit, the circuit will > > malfunction. > > > > > > I have replaced the lamps in a Dynaco FM-5 once, it took two > > resistors > > and a diode. A series-resistor, and a resistor and diode in > > parallel. > > Even then, the "tuned" section has a tendency to pulse if not > > dead-center of station. Accordingly, when I run across this problem > > elsewhere, I tend to use lamps and a bit of calculation/testing. > > > > Thoughts? > > > > Peter Wieck > > Wyncote, PA > > > That's odd behavior that I have never met but I agree that you have to > look at the whole circuit and all modes of operation. > I am planning to tackle the replacement of a dead stereo indicator > lamp in a Sansui 5050 receiver. I need to check the schematic again > but, IIRC, it is driven by a dedicated transistor emitter follower > (for current gain) off the HA1196 demodulator PLL chip, so using an > LED should be easy. But first I have to replace the HA1196 (NTE1484) > (two on order.) > Cheers, > Roger > > Article: 323962 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129158379.001408.139340@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1129170137.464413.36650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FS - TV-7 D/U ebay item #7553330514 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 03:35:10 GMT Yes, you are correct and hello Graham...good to see you again. X's x'd out "graham" wrote in message news:jbqdnWGJesShV9DeRVn-tw@comcast.com... > ... actually it looks like he made a mistake, > the auction started on the 10th ... > > wrote in message > news:1129170137.464413.36650@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Let's see. Date posted October 12. Auction ends October 10. Little > > late, huh? > > f1736 wrote: > >> TV-7 D/U Vacuum Tube Tester Hickok Military TV7 Item number: 7553330514 > >> > >> > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/TV-7-D-U-Vacuum-Tube-Tester-Hickok-Military-TV7_W0QQitemZ7553330514QQcategoryZ25422QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > >> > >> Current bid: $56.00 > >> Auction ends on: Oct-10-05 10:04:24 PDT > >> > >> Only 3 days left. > >> > >> > >> More Pictures: - http://www.geocities.com/f1736/tv7du.htm > >> > >> Thanks > >> Greg Fastabend - (fastabendhotmail) > > > > Article: 323963 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1123543447.821036.107210@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1MSdnXA6GPcpaWrfRVn-qQ@comcast.com> <4349FF1D.9EE18225@earthlink.net> <2oK2f.13710$Fc4.9521@twister.nyc.rr.com> <434C3F43.253B3636@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: HISTORY CHANNEL DOC NEEDS PROPS Message-ID: <2Dk3f.206$Xj4.24529@monger.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 03:36:30 GMT I though they caught a bug and bit it...now you tell me. "Rune" wrote in message news:etk3f.14781$Fc4.13286@twister.nyc.rr.com... > It's been years since I saw the patent papers for the thing and I don't > remember the particulars. Is it online somewhere? > > There's an interesting series of "alternate history" books based on the idea > that other civilizations might have developed transistors instead of tubes > and that our using tubes threw a wrench in their attempt to invade Earth in > the late '30 with EMP weapons > > Ray. > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message > news:434C3F43.253B3636@earthlink.net... > > Rune wrote: > >> > >> I guess I should have said construction & design methods instead of > >> circuit > >> design. It would be interesting to see how they would have coped with > >> transistors with the clunky capacitor, coil, and primative design ideas > >> of > >> that era outside of a lab. > >> > >> Small wonder it didn't find a waiting market. It was ahead of the rest of > >> the components and engineering/manufacturing of the time. > > > > The "transistor" you are talking about would be a "Field Effect > > Transistor". The thing that stopped development was that metallurgy > > wasn't up to making the pure metals needed to manufacture the parts. > > When Bell labs made their first hand made point contact transistors they > > realized it was going to take a lot of work to develop a useful > > manufacturing process. That is why they released it to other companies, > > so they would pay most, or all of the development costs. > > > > -- > > ? > > > > Michael A. Terrell > > Central Florida > > Article: 323964 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128709563.578501.15340@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128941648.677322.183360@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Slightly OT: Tips and Tricks Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 03:38:50 GMT And NO, mine works gloriously. I tried to give it away and it promptly blew two 5A fuses. My baby is trying to tell me something, after all the work I put into her : ) "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message news:Vzk3f.204$Xj4.24507@monger.newsread.com... > Yes, I've seen your ad on AK. > > "Engineer" wrote in message > news:ooGdnfAsd_hVU9DeRVn-pQ@rogers.com... > > "Peter Wieck" wrote in message > > news:1128941648.677322.183360@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > > Roger: > > > > > > Your solution is elegant for those lamps that are not part of a > > > circuit. In the case of the Dynaco (and perhaps the AR, I took no > > > chances), the particular value of the lamp affects both the "Tuned" > > > and > > > "Stereo" circuits. This, such that if the lamps are either burnt out > > > _or_ of the improper impedance-when-lit, the circuit will > > > malfunction. > > > > > > > > > I have replaced the lamps in a Dynaco FM-5 once, it took two > > > resistors > > > and a diode. A series-resistor, and a resistor and diode in > > > parallel. > > > Even then, the "tuned" section has a tendency to pulse if not > > > dead-center of station. Accordingly, when I run across this problem > > > elsewhere, I tend to use lamps and a bit of calculation/testing. > > > > > > Thoughts? > > > > > > Peter Wieck > > > Wyncote, PA > > > > > That's odd behavior that I have never met but I agree that you have to > > look at the whole circuit and all modes of operation. > > I am planning to tackle the replacement of a dead stereo indicator > > lamp in a Sansui 5050 receiver. I need to check the schematic again > > but, IIRC, it is driven by a dedicated transistor emitter follower > > (for current gain) off the HA1196 demodulator PLL chip, so using an > > LED should be easy. But first I have to replace the HA1196 (NTE1484) > > (two on order.) > > Cheers, > > Roger > > > > > > Article: 323965 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <434DDAD9.80506@nospam_cox.net> From: Dave Subject: Re: HISTORY CHANNEL DOC NEEDS PROPS References: <1123543447.821036.107210@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1MSdnXA6GPcpaWrfRVn-qQ@comcast.com> <4349FF1D.9EE18225@earthlink.net> <2oK2f.13710$Fc4.9521@twister.nyc.rr.com> <434C3F43.253B3636@earthlink.net> <2Dk3f.206$Xj4.24529@monger.newsread.com> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 20:56:09 -0700 Does anyone have the original message on this? It was not in my listing. By the way, they do indeed like to rent props. I rented a TBX-8 to the History Channel in 2002 for use in a story on the Code Talkers. Spent the day on the set with the Code talkers and THC crew in Window Rock, Arizona. It was a neat experience. Dave N7RK reply to: n7rk@cox.net Article: 323966 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: HISTORY CHANNEL DOC NEEDS PROPS Date: 13 Oct 2005 03:57:07 GMT Message-ID: References: <1MSdnXA6GPcpaWrfRVn-qQ@comcast.com> <4349FF1D.9EE18225@earthlink.net> <2oK2f.13710$Fc4.9521@twister.nyc.rr.com> <434C3F43.253B3636@earthlink.net> "Rune" (rrooney@ucwphillyDOTrr.com) writes: > It's been years since I saw the patent papers for the thing and I don't > remember the particulars. Is it online somewhere? > YOu can view US patents online at their website, http://www.uspto.gov/patft But for patents issued before about thirty years ago, they are simply scans of the paper patents (or maybe scans of microfiche of the patents) and there is little you can search on. You may not be able to do anything without the patent number. Though this is the sort of thing that someone may have a webpage about, and doing some searches might find such pages, and they might list patent numbers. Michael Article: 323967 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 04:07:41 GMT Lemon law. Gotta love it. It started with cars but now everything is this way. Few manufacturers care about customer satisfaction once they have established their brand in the market. Once they "make the big time" they get sloppy and cynical. A then they complain that buyers have no brand loyalty. Whose fault is that? I remember back in the 50s and 60s when they were complaining about Japanese radios and TVs coming in. Ok, I could see that - until I looked inside the "American" stuff and saw Japanese tubes and capacitors and speakers. Too bad for the domestic suppliers. How can I be loyal to someone who won't return that loyalty or even give me a good product in return? Don't sell me a Toyota or Isuzu with "Chevy" stuck on it and then turn around and carp if I actually buy a Toyota. And don't expect me to come back for more if you sell me a TV or motorbike that falls apart and can't or won't be fixed. Parts for new equipment, even major ones, are frequently not available for _anything_ made by a supplier not owned by the company selling the item. A lot of these come from small "cottage industry" companies that just fulfill a contract and then wash their hands of the whole affair. I used to have this problem when I was in the A/V field. We ordered a new cover for someone whose arc projector arrived with a damaged cover. The order came back NLA and I complained to the regional rep. His comeback? That they don't supply parts for ancient equipment! It was a month old and it was ancient? He seemingly thought that since the base model came out years before that it was long out of production. The part involved was fiberglass and evidently had been made by an outside supplier. I lucked out and got one for a different model (wrong color and texture) but the buyer was happy to have any cover by then. Getting back to consumer electronics, a friend's father always has the latest model of portable CD player - but not because he buys them. He originally got one to plug into the old stereo and use once a week or so when he went out. The thing is, although these weren't the bottom-end models, they don't last long and he is constantly getting exchanges. He's gone through 3 or 4 brands as the models change almost monthly and the dealer keeps dropping problem brands. I guess the kids don't care or something. If a 75-yo man is wasting these things in a few weeks sitting at home they must die really quickly in bookbags or while running. It really seems that these boxes we are typing on have trained people to expect that something is old and worthless after 2 years and the invasion of consumer goods of all kinds with digital technology has spread that attitude far and wide. Don't fix it, get a new one. No wonder manufacturers have the attitude they do. They get away with it. We need an honest brand name for new stuff. Like Kleenex. Or Puffs - for when the magic smoke comes out. Ray "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96ECD5CA45649noone@63.223.7.253... > "Rune" wrote in > news:NLP2f.13751$Fc4.312@twister.nyc.rr.com: > >> Yep, big items get ignored or "taken to the shop", never to be seen >> again. Usually the eternal stall, blaming the mfr. Your choice what >> mfr stands for... >> > > Yamaha tried to pull that crap in 1997. I bought an $8,500, 135HP, Yamaha > GP1200 Waverunner (jetski). It's made in Neenan, GA....not on Pluto. > Simple parts, like the front storage hood that came scratched, are > unavailable in 6 months to replace it. The engine crank separated, > because > of the way it's made in little pieces and pressed together/pinned. Local > tech replaced everything (carbs/electronics/anything outside the block). > Yamaha, because engines are more than the $1000 resistance level every > consumer product that's expensive to fix bumps into, refused to simply > ship > a new engine from Neenan, GA to Charleston to fix it. The first 5000 > boats > were cracking hulls because the engine and heavy gas tank mounts were > pushing their way through the plastic hulls. Of course, there'd never be > a > recall on a jetski, no matter how much it cost, unless lawyers were asking > why it was killing 200 kids. It sat, 2 weeks out of ever month, in the > mud > behind the shop, uncovered, disassembled, with the jets overhead landing > at > the airport pouring fuel and soot onto it....ignored as you say. > > But, alas, LARRY was holding all the cards. I let them talk me into the > bogus Yamaha Credit Card so I could get the no-money-down/no interest for > 6 > months/no payments until September scam....and the dealer could get his > healthy kickback, which was more important of course. Not having a dime > in > it, I simply returned it for a full refund under FEDERAL LAW 15USC50 > Section 2304(a)(4)...which states: > http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode15/usc_sup_01_15_10_50.html > > http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode15/usc_sec_15_00002304----000- > .html > > "(4) if the product (or a component part thereof) contains a defect or > malfunction after a reasonable number of attempts by the warrantor to > remedy defects or malfunctions in such product, such warrantor must permit > the consumer to elect either a refund for, or replacement without charge > of, such product or part (as the case may be). The Commission may by rule > specify for purposes of this paragraph, what constitutes a reasonable > number of attempts to remedy particular kinds of defects or malfunctions > under different circumstances. If the warrantor replaces a component part > of a consumer product, such replacement shall include installing the part > in the product without charge." > > God I love that part....(c; > > Notice it says it's up to the CONSUMER....not the dealer...not the > manufacturer....not some arbitrator....not a company bureaucrat....THE > CONSUMER to elect either a FULL REFUND or a NEW UNIT...not a rebuilt > unit...not a reconditioned, used, cellphone like Verizon Wireless tries to > shit on you...a new unit. > > I chose to return the boat. They refused to receive it. I never paid for > it. They tried threats. I hired a lawyer. He tried to get them to ruin > my spotless 37 year credit so HE could have that new home on the ocean at > Isle of Palms and I could have that new E-class Mercedes I'd been drooling > over....(c; > > We never could get them to trash us or take us to court. They know what > the law says....FEDERAL LAW....USE IT! Everyone should read the whole > law. > It's written in plain English, really! "They" don't want you to. > > If you sell to consumers, it might be a good idea to download: > http://www.ftc.gov/bcp/conline/pubs/buspubs/warranty.htm > which explains, in great detail, just what your shop's responsibility is > to > your consumers. I downloaded and FAX'd this entire booklet to my boat > dealer during the night. He left his fax machine on...(c; I thought he > needed a copy, don't you?...(c; Obviously, he didn't know what his > responsibilities were, because he said just because he sold me a new boat > doesn't mean he has to do anything to fix it when it sucks. FTC says he > was wrong.....Every consumer needs to read this booklet! It's like > getting > the keys to the inner office. AS long as it has a written warranty, even > a > limited warranty, it's enforced. > > You know where they always put this disclaimer in every warranty telling > you they have no responsibility to "implied warranties" of merchantability > or suitability for a particular purpose....trying to weasle out of them? > Look in the booklet and read the law where it says this is all bullshit! > They CANNOT weasle out of the two implied warranties, just because their > lawyer writing the warranty says they can.....nope...not even close! > > By the way, if you tell 'em it works....it MUST work. You've created an > implied warranty of merchantability...just by saying that. > > -- > Larry > I'm not a lawyer, but I learned a lot. I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express, > once! Article: 323968 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: HISTORY CHANNEL DOC NEEDS PROPS Date: 13 Oct 2005 04:15:53 GMT Message-ID: References: <4349FF1D.9EE18225@earthlink.net> <2oK2f.13710$Fc4.9521@twister.nyc.rr.com> <434C3F43.253B3636@earthlink.net> <2Dk3f.206$Xj4.24529@monger.newsread.com> <434DDAD9.80506@nospam_cox.net> Dave (n7rk@nospam_cox.net) writes: > Does anyone have the original message on this? It was not in my listing. > The thread started way back on August 8th, and the poster was never seen from again. Indeed, the only post from that email address was that message. And then for some reason, someone added to it two months later. Michael > By the way, they do indeed like to rent props. I rented a TBX-8 to the > History Channel in 2002 for use in a story on the Code Talkers. Spent > the day on the set with the Code talkers and THC crew in Window Rock, > Arizona. It was a neat experience. > > > Dave N7RK > > reply to: n7rk@cox.net Article: 323969 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <3qv48tFghitrU1@individual.net> <3qvdmeFh0ndgU1@individual.net> <1128956562.536790.23800@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <3r1pvgFgfedaU1@individual.net> <1129035872.433881.131030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <3r21amFhjtieU1@individual.net> <1129043847.386580.230290@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: New to this - need help Re an Ekco C389 Message-ID: <1129178210.def6e218dece85a54468cb9cc81822bb@teranews> Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 21:36:46 -0700 I don't know, I get the urge to giggle every time I am in the London subway and see all those "way out" signs. - but English and American isn't the only pair where you find little oddities - mexican and spanish have some really odd issues, the one that took me a little while last time in spain was "tortilla", which the spanish translate as "omlette", but which when I've ordered it was much more like a Swiss rosti (put an umlaut over the o). "Bob in Phx" wrote in message news:Ovj3f.5589$MN6.5305@fed1read04... > After this discussion, I think a fag is in order!!! > > Bob (who used to have an English Nanny) > "Peter Wieck" wrote in message > news:1129043847.386580.230290@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> Not bad at all. Just curious. I spent 2.5 years in Saudi, amongst quite >> a few Brits. I learned early on that we are two peoples separated by a >> common language....I believe Oscar Wilde said that first. >> >> Peter Wieck >> Wyncote, PA >> > > Article: 323970 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: Motorola Take Apart Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 21:39:43 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1128842362.030368.203950@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129159608.661842.154630@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> I agree with you. I learned that by doing it John's way. Fix what is wrong and a little while later something else is wrong. Its constant repairs. Better to do it all at once and not risk damaging some hard-to-get part. On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 16:26:48 -0700, RadioGary wrote: > I'm afraid I have to disagree. With the dozens of articals that were > written on the subject of restoring old sets, giving them lasting new > life, making them safe for operation, and improving performance, I > cannot justify what you are saying, no offense. I've proven it to > myself by recapping even fairly good working sets. Everything from > volume to receiver sensitivity improves when you go at these sets the > right way. I've learned to take my time, and make time for these radio > projects and the results are satisfying and rewarding. If I ever have > questions about restoring these sets, I either use this or other > sources on the Internet, or I exchange ideas with my fellow collectors > at the Antique Radio Club of Illinois monthly meetings. Not only that, > I've learned alot more about electronic theory by bring a great old set > back to life versus buying it and putting it up on the shelf wondering > that if I turn this on will it play music or play Ka Boom Ka Boom was that Sha Boom Sha Boom?>. > > > J. B. Wood wrote: >> In article <1128842362.030368.203950@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, >> "RadioGary" wrote: >> >> > Hi Guys, >> > >> > It's winter project time in the great midwest. I'm attempting to >> > disassemble a Motorola 79XM21, pictured at >> > >> > http://radioatticarchives.com/images/m/Motorola_79XM21_Toppo.jpg >> > >> > She's working fine, but would like to get underside and recap it, make >> > it perfect. The problem is how do you get the chassis out completely? >> > It looks as though you have to remove the grill assembly in order the >> > clear the dial pointer mechanism. How in the world is this done? Has >> > anyone tackled this before? Is there any reference on how to >> > disassemble this set in particular somewhere? I'd appreciate a >> > knowledgable helping hand on this. Now I know why I like working on >> > consoles better . Thanks, GB. EMAIL is N9VU at yahoo dot com, >> > or just reply to subject here. >> >> Why fix it if it works OK even if not quite up to original specs? Keep in >> mind that you may also break something that's brittle or encounter that >> knob setscrew that won't come loose. You can easily end up wondering "Why >> didn't I leave well enough alone?" I definitely speak with some >> experience here ;-) I generally don't open up vacuum tube radios unless >> they are excessively dirty/mildewed, need a line cord replacement, have >> broken dial cords, have excessive hum, unacceptably scratchy or erratic >> pots or switches, or the radio plain doesn't work or is conspicuously sub >> par in its operation. IOW, I am content to maintain an antique radio >> rather than do a complete restoration (recapping, etc). I know I haven't >> answered your question but wanted to weigh in. Sincerely, >> >> John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil >> Naval Research Laboratory >> 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW >> Washington, DC 20375-5337 -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 323971 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2005 21:21:06 -0700 Message-ID: References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> Don wrote: >>You're supposed to buy constant new items from them and let the >> >>>trash man have last year's model for the landfill. Seen any restored >>>Datsuns or Toyopets at a car show? (Sure would like to have my 2-cylinder >>>Honda S-600 that got 65mpg back...[snif]) > I had to wait 3 weeks for a $87 part to fix my 2001 Nissan Sentra. > They originally told me 1 month. I called 1-800-nissanusa, and complained. > The dealer wanted to charge me $44 for shipping, too. 1986 Corolla here. I've never had a problem getting parts. Of course, that is largely because it hasn't needed too many replacement ones in the first place. There are plenty of first generation Lexuses still being driven around here as well. It has been my experience that auto dealerships tend to be lazy and unmotivated when it comes to servicing what they sell. The mechanics are decent but they don't seem to get a hell of a lot of support from the manufacturers. A good independent shop is a much better deal....They are hungrier for the business and seem to have a better feel for tracking down the tough-dog problems and thinking outside the box to solve them. The last AKAI-branded product that I owned, A VCR bought in '87, was a disaster. The AFM circuitry would make fluttering noises when hooked to cable TV. The muting circuit failed in one audio channel after two months, resulting in horrible screeching noises when you fast forwarded through commercials. The video head failed after six months because one of the ICs was not properly heat-sinked. Mechanically, it was WAY too delicate and was starting to develop problems with fast-forward and rewind about the same time the head failed. A friend of mine bought the same deck, and it developed similar problems after about a year of use. The head also failed on his, as well as the tuner and the video modulator. He gave me his machine and I managed to cobble enough parts together from the two bad decks to make one good one, which I gave back to him. It lasted another six months before having a catastrophic mechanical breakdown. What a joke......two $400.00 decks tossed into the landfill after only 18 months. I had previously had pretty good luck with AKAI's reel-to-reel decks, and I was stunned at how far they had fallen. After that fiasco, I bought a SONY SLV-555 VCR to replace the AKAI. It's a bit long in the tooth, but it still works to this day. I doubt I could find anything so durably built now. I also own two contemporary Panasonic VCRs, which are built as cheap as can be but seem to be holding up pretty well in the face of abusive children and virtually zero maintenance. -Scott Article: 323972 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: HISTORY CHANNEL DOC NEEDS PROPS References: <1123543447.821036.107210@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1MSdnXA6GPcpaWrfRVn-qQ@comcast.com> <4349FF1D.9EE18225@earthlink.net> <2oK2f.13710$Fc4.9521@twister.nyc.rr.com> <434C3F43.253B3636@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 05:13:12 GMT Rune wrote: > There's an interesting series of "alternate history" books based on the idea > that other civilizations might have developed transistors instead of tubes > and that our using tubes threw a wrench in their attempt to invade Earth in > the late '30 with EMP weapons Turtledove I think. A four part series. A great bit on the English "boogies" trying to figure out how solid state and lasers work. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 323973 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: HISTORY CHANNEL DOC NEEDS PROPS References: <1123543447.821036.107210@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1MSdnXA6GPcpaWrfRVn-qQ@comcast.com> <4349FF1D.9EE18225@earthlink.net> <2oK2f.13710$Fc4.9521@twister.nyc.rr.com> <434C3F43.253B3636@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <%5m3f.731$QM5.597@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 05:17:47 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > Do you have the title of that book? Sounds like a fun read. http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0345388526/qid=1129180481/sr=8-9/ref=pd_bbs_9/102-5030739-3432155?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 Or search amazon.com for "Harry Turtledove" Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 323974 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: <53n3f.211$Xj4.25235@monger.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 06:22:57 GMT "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:diknbk06np@news4.newsguy.com... > It has been my experience that auto dealerships tend to be lazy and > unmotivated when it comes to servicing what they sell. The mechanics are > decent but they don't seem to get a hell of a lot of support from the > manufacturers. A good independent shop is a much better deal....They are > hungrier for the business and seem to have a better feel for tracking > down the tough-dog problems and thinking outside the box to solve them. The kids who inherit them cheap (relatively speaking) seem to know what to do. Even if they do turn the Acuras into Hot Wheels. Early 90s Town Cars were popular for a while. Mitsubishi coupes (Eclipse, Spider, 3000GT) I don't respect a lot and I try to dust them once in a while. Crazy sedan boy usually wins. > The last AKAI-branded product that I owned, A VCR bought in '87, was a > disaster. The AFM circuitry would make fluttering noises when hooked to > cable TV. The muting circuit failed in one audio channel after two > months, resulting in horrible screeching noises when you fast forwarded > through commercials. The video head failed after six months because one > of the ICs was not properly heat-sinked. Mechanically, it was WAY too > delicate and was starting to develop problems with fast-forward and > rewind about the same time the head failed. > > A friend of mine bought the same deck, and it developed similar problems > after about a year of use. The head also failed on his, as well as the > tuner and the video modulator. He gave me his machine and I managed to > cobble enough parts together from the two bad decks to make one good > one, which I gave back to him. It lasted another six months before > having a catastrophic mechanical breakdown. What a joke......two $400.00 > decks tossed into the landfill after only 18 months. I had previously > had pretty good luck with AKAI's reel-to-reel decks, and I was stunned > at how far they had fallen. > > After that fiasco, I bought a SONY SLV-555 VCR to replace the AKAI. It's > a bit long in the tooth, but it still works to this day. I doubt I could > find anything so durably built now. > > I also own two contemporary Panasonic VCRs, which are built as cheap as > can be but seem to be holding up pretty well in the face of abusive > children and virtually zero maintenance. > > -Scott Article: 323975 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <3qv48tFghitrU1@individual.net> <3qvdmeFh0ndgU1@individual.net> <1128956562.536790.23800@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <3r1pvgFgfedaU1@individual.net> <1129035872.433881.131030@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <3r21amFhjtieU1@individual.net> <1129043847.386580.230290@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129178210.def6e218dece85a54468cb9cc81822bb@teranews> Subject: Re: New to this - need help Re an Ekco C389 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 06:27:46 GMT People who think Spanish is romantic forget it takes EIGHT sentences to match one of English in the restroom: "Insert X quarters together, turn knob, receive product". I'm not going to guess how much more if there are four products in rotation, but yeah, that's the point. "william_b_noble" wrote in message news:1129178210.def6e218dece85a54468cb9cc81822bb@teranews... > I don't know, I get the urge to giggle every time I am in the London subway > and see all those "way out" signs. - but English and American isn't the only > pair where you find little oddities - mexican and spanish have some really > odd issues, the one that took me a little while last time in spain was > "tortilla", which the spanish translate as "omlette", but which when I've > ordered it was much more like a Swiss rosti (put an umlaut over the o). > "Bob in Phx" wrote in message > news:Ovj3f.5589$MN6.5305@fed1read04... > > After this discussion, I think a fag is in order!!! > > > > Bob (who used to have an English Nanny) > > "Peter Wieck" wrote in message > > news:1129043847.386580.230290@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > >> Not bad at all. Just curious. I spent 2.5 years in Saudi, amongst quite > >> a few Brits. I learned early on that we are two peoples separated by a > >> common language....I believe Oscar Wilde said that first. > >> > >> Peter Wieck > >> Wyncote, PA > >> > > > > > > Article: 323976 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <53n3f.211$Xj4.25235@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 06:40:21 GMT "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message news:53n3f.211$Xj4.25235@monger.newsread.com... > > "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message > news:diknbk06np@news4.newsguy.com... > > > The last AKAI-branded product that I owned, A VCR bought in '87, was a > > disaster. The AFM circuitry would make fluttering noises when hooked to > > cable TV. The muting circuit failed in one audio channel after two > > months, resulting in horrible screeching noises when you fast forwarded > > through commercials. The video head failed after six months because one > > of the ICs was not properly heat-sinked. Mechanically, it was WAY too > > delicate and was starting to develop problems with fast-forward and > > rewind about the same time the head failed. > > > > A friend of mine bought the same deck, and it developed similar problems > > after about a year of use. The head also failed on his, as well as the > > tuner and the video modulator. He gave me his machine and I managed to > > cobble enough parts together from the two bad decks to make one good > > one, which I gave back to him. It lasted another six months before > > having a catastrophic mechanical breakdown. What a joke......two $400.00 > > decks tossed into the landfill after only 18 months. I had previously > > had pretty good luck with AKAI's reel-to-reel decks, and I was stunned > > at how far they had fallen. > > > > After that fiasco, I bought a SONY SLV-555 VCR to replace the AKAI. It's > > a bit long in the tooth, but it still works to this day. I doubt I could > > find anything so durably built now. I have an SLV-595HF and the tracking is a little weary plus the remote isn't quite right or maybe the deck's sensor but the jog shuttle equipped ones are it in my eyes. Panasonics are workhorses, and my RCA Hi-Fi has been there 8 years with great results. PhilipsMagnavox/Sylvania are okay in my eyes and oddly enough I've never had much trouble with 90s Hi-Fi Zeniths either. > > > > I also own two contemporary Panasonic VCRs, which are built as cheap as > > can be but seem to be holding up pretty well in the face of abusive > > children and virtually zero maintenance. > > > > -Scott Yes, I've gotta agree that Matshushita/Panasonic (I believe the company name is in the process of changing possibly, like Nissan, judging from the regional division names on the boxes and in the advertising FWIW...I don't think the National brand has much presence anymore) is durable, sensible stuff designed with consumer needs foremost. Article: 323977 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129185475.223164.298160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Semi-OT - t-shirts for the vacuum tube inclined Message-ID: <3qn3f.214$Xj4.25383@monger.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 06:47:27 GMT "Jim Strickland" wrote in message news:1129185475.223164.298160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Don't know if y'all were aware of these t-shirts, but I have one of the > glow-in-the-dark ones on black. I've even found other tube fans that > way. > > http://www.geekculture.com/geekculturestore/webstore/tubesrock.html > > -Jim I was amazed to find Pink Floyd DSOM shirts come in lime green and YES, even PINK. Even more amazing, they were on teenage girls. I always wanted the Led Zeppelin "Swan Song" shirt but lost enthusiam after John Bonham passed on. Hey, with out curtains right now in the living room, it's interesting to watch all the cop cars head around Second Street every other night. They had a bust on the other avenue last week. Meet the neighbors! Article: 323978 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> Subject: OT but good for me finally... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 07:06:48 GMT I got the calendar production job for my favorite bar, maybe 200 if I can get they to buy 100, the costs per unit are lower and construction much simpler! They look much nicer and don't have expensive brads anymore and I have most of the materials (some paper donated) already. One black cart, craft cement and a ream of copy paper is all I need. I'm gonna sell a dubbing deck and a Hi-Fi VCR this week also, and finish putting together one more system and building a center from a Bose 301 II cabinet. finding the cover for the frame would be nice so I could build my own (stands sideways so the tweeter fires upward). I'm still holding out for a replacement woofer for a Polk Audio Monitor 4 as while I could use it a a center, I would love to find another orphan to pair with it. I'm now waiting for those Dukane speakers etc. I bought on eBay, the one with field coils... Select-A-Tennas actually work, but about all they affect is KSRV (about all I get) when this is on, and it's less than 1/2 mile away (?) LOL I found my Skil jigsaw, now the Black and Decker drill is misplaced (I'm GOOOD). I might catch up the bills if I'm not careful (HEE HEE). Article: 323979 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? From: Larry References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 04:59:08 -0400 "Rune" wrote in news:h4l3f.14786$Fc4.393@twister.nyc.rr.com: > It really seems that these boxes we are typing on have trained people > to expect that something is old and worthless after 2 years and the > invasion of consumer goods of all kinds with digital technology has > spread that attitude far and wide. > Oh, I don't tell them I'm using an old HP computer under Win98SE...yecch. Micro$not has them thinking it will dissolve after 90 days...(c; -- Larry Article: 323980 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Semi-OT - t-shirts for the vacuum tube inclined From: Larry References: <1129185475.223164.298160@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <3qn3f.214$Xj4.25383@monger.newsread.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 05:05:48 -0400 "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in news:3qn3f.214$Xj4.25383@monger.newsread.com: > I was amazed to find Pink Floyd DSOM shirts come in lime green and > YES, even PINK. Even more amazing, they were on teenage girls. I > always wanted the Led Zeppelin "Swan Song" shirt but lost enthusiam > after John Bonham passed on. > > I found the one I was looking for. I bought a Powerboard to get from the parking lot at the city marina to the boats down the long, long docks: http://www.jacmacscooters.com/xtr_se450.htm I was looking for one that said: SKATEBOARDING IS NOT A CRIME The skateboarders around here wear them.... Found it at the thrift shop in new condition. Great laughs on me. I'm 59. The scooter goes 8 miles at 16 mph on a charge. Great neighborhood transportation up to my local breakfast diner when gas is $3+/gallon. It's nuclear powered...(c; -- Larry Article: 323981 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: <2zp3f.216$Xj4.25657@monger.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:13:34 GMT "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96EE330466077noone@63.223.7.253... > "Rune" wrote in > news:h4l3f.14786$Fc4.393@twister.nyc.rr.com: > > > It really seems that these boxes we are typing on have trained people > > to expect that something is old and worthless after 2 years and the > > invasion of consumer goods of all kinds with digital technology has > > spread that attitude far and wide. > > > > Oh, I don't tell them I'm using an old HP computer under Win98SE...yecch. > > Micro$not has them thinking it will dissolve after 90 days...(c; > > -- > Larry Me is set up to be crap out of the box, but I can set up one example of every version from 95B to 2000 Pro. I wish I still had my 3.11 floppies that were NIB surplus when I got them dumpster dived by someone... Article: 323982 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2zp3f.216$Xj4.25657@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 09:15:37 GMT Hey, Larry...133, 166 or 233 MHz? > "Larry" wrote in message > news:Xns96EE330466077noone@63.223.7.253... > > Oh, I don't tell them I'm using an old HP computer under Win98SE...yecch. > > > > Micro$not has them thinking it will dissolve after 90 days...(c; > > > > -- > > Larry Article: 323983 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) Subject: Re: Motorola Take Apart Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 07:19:12 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1128842362.030368.203950@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129159608.661842.154630@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> In article <1129159608.661842.154630@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, "RadioGary" wrote: > I'm afraid I have to disagree. With the dozens of articals that were > written on the subject of restoring old sets, giving them lasting new > life, making them safe for operation, and improving performance, I > cannot justify what you are saying, no offense. Hello, and that's OK. It's a difference in philosphy. My antique tube radios are just that, antiques. They are not the radios I listen to every day. I like them to not look like they've been run over by a truck and work when I plug them in and turn them on, though. Also, in my case I have many hobbies (Amateur radio the most closely related) and just don't want to spend a lot of time working on old radios. I've seen some collectors with many table radios on book shelves that were never intended by their owners to be in working order. Kind of like owning a grand piano becuase it looks nice in a room but it never gets tuned or played. Sincerely, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337