Article: 323984 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" Subject: WTD--5-pin wafer sockets Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 08:07:21 -0500 Message-ID: <434e5c08$0$32197$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Got an upcoming project to start, and I can't find the abovementioned item. Seems AES only has ceramic versions. I need a few of the wafer-style 5 pin sockets, the ones that are two pieces of phenolic held together with rivets. Bill Article: 323985 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1f5a5703cc4d2d4404e9392d0d3b6872@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> Subject: Re: 71A, 371's: What makes them AC or DC? Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 08:17:48 -0500 Message-ID: <434e5c9f$1_2@newspeer2.tds.net> "Pete_O" wrote in message news:1f5a5703cc4d2d4404e9392d0d3b6872@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com... > The later AC TRF's and period tech info insist upon using 371's or other > "AC" rated tubes. It's a directly heated cathode- what makes it better > for AC opereation instead of DC? -Pete O. It's not. There just weren't any decent indirectly-heated power tubes available until the 42 hit the market in 1932. 71As were used in battery sets. They needed .25A at 5V on the filament, just like an 01A. Article: 323986 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? From: Larry References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2zp3f.216$Xj4.25657@monger.newsread.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 11:30:03 -0400 "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in news:ZAp3f.217$Xj4.25562@monger.newsread.com: > Hey, Larry...133, 166 or 233 MHz? > It was a 533, but someone upgraded and I got a free 733 P3 so stuck that in there. Doesn't matter much. Motherboard's still running 120 Mhz and all my favorite processes are very disk intensive. Some day I'll get a new gee-whizzer 20Ghz with the 10Ghz motherboard and million RPM RAID drives.....when it comes out.....in 2010. I'll buy it as soon as the 1Gbps fibre cable is installed. This one runs ok on 4Mbps cable. Oh, for those of us with "medium" speed machines, faster than 350Mhz, I found a great DVD-RW external USB2.0 drive that burns DVDs fast on old, slow P3 machines. It's the LiteOn SOHW-1673SX external DVD drive. I've tried many that said they'd work on a 500 Mhz P3 Win98SE machine that didn't. This thing is uncanny! Burns CDRs at 48X and DVDs at 6X without crashing! My internal TDK CDR burner bogs the system to a stall at 8X on the IDE bus. Must be a processor inside the LiteOn that unloads the computer a lot. It was $109 at Circuit City but is even cheaper if you order off the net. If you want to burn single OR EVEN DUAL LAYER DVDs on a tired old Win98SE 450 or 550 Mhz P3, DIS BE DA ONE! Be informed the correct driver for Win98SE is NOT on any of the Nero 6 or DVD player disks that come with the drive. Download the correct Win98SE driver from: http://www.liteonit.com/ODD/English/e_downloads/e_drivers.asp Click on V605.zip and download it. Unzip it and install it first, then plug in the drive and it works first class....Save you the telephone tag I went through. -- Larry Article: 323987 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2zp3f.216$Xj4.25657@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:55:28 GMT I've used the Liteon 40125... with Nero 5.5.7.2. (unit specific or something) sporadically for almost 5 years, on machines from 233 MHz to 1 GHz and busses from 66 to 433+ MHz. Currently on Socket A, 100 MHz bus and 700 MHz Althlon. I always use a separate drive for reading. Someday the new board will be running and I will have onboard Raid again (through 4 extra IDE channels instead an IDE adapter). I am all-AMD right now and prefer that. "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96EE74FAF5398noone@63.223.7.253... > "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in > news:ZAp3f.217$Xj4.25562@monger.newsread.com: > > > Hey, Larry...133, 166 or 233 MHz? > > > > It was a 533, but someone upgraded and I got a free 733 P3 so stuck that in > there. Doesn't matter much. Motherboard's still running 120 Mhz and all > my favorite processes are very disk intensive. > > Some day I'll get a new gee-whizzer 20Ghz with the 10Ghz motherboard and > million RPM RAID drives.....when it comes out.....in 2010. I'll buy it as > soon as the 1Gbps fibre cable is installed. This one runs ok on 4Mbps > cable. > > Oh, for those of us with "medium" speed machines, faster than 350Mhz, I > found a great DVD-RW external USB2.0 drive that burns DVDs fast on old, > slow P3 machines. It's the LiteOn SOHW-1673SX external DVD drive. I've > tried many that said they'd work on a 500 Mhz P3 Win98SE machine that > didn't. This thing is uncanny! Burns CDRs at 48X and DVDs at 6X without > crashing! My internal TDK CDR burner bogs the system to a stall at 8X on > the IDE bus. Must be a processor inside the LiteOn that unloads the > computer a lot. It was $109 at Circuit City but is even cheaper if you > order off the net. If you want to burn single OR EVEN DUAL LAYER DVDs on a > tired old Win98SE 450 or 550 Mhz P3, DIS BE DA ONE! > > Be informed the correct driver for Win98SE is NOT on any of the Nero 6 or > DVD player disks that come with the drive. Download the correct Win98SE > driver from: > http://www.liteonit.com/ODD/English/e_downloads/e_drivers.asp > Click on V605.zip and download it. > Unzip it and install it first, then plug in the drive and it works first > class....Save you the telephone tag I went through. > > -- > Larry Article: 323988 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2zp3f.216$Xj4.25657@monger.newsread.com> Subject: OT-Computer junk: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: <0yv3f.241$Xj4.27781@monger.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:02:04 GMT PS Larry, it's the architecture of the bus more than most other things that determines how a system runs. I'm finding I like non-Intel/VIA bridges a little better now, but a good 100 MHz bus with a coprocessor involved would often seem to work more nicely, clear back to the days I was using P90s. "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message news:Qrv3f.239$Xj4.27934@monger.newsread.com... > I've used the Liteon 40125... with Nero 5.5.7.2. (unit specific or > something) sporadically for almost 5 years, on machines from 233 MHz to 1 > GHz and busses from 66 to 433+ MHz. Currently on Socket A, 100 MHz bus and > 700 MHz Althlon. I always use a separate drive for reading. Someday the new > board will be running and I will have onboard Raid again (through 4 extra > IDE channels instead an IDE adapter). I am all-AMD right now and prefer > that. > > "Larry" wrote in message > news:Xns96EE74FAF5398noone@63.223.7.253... > > "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in > > news:ZAp3f.217$Xj4.25562@monger.newsread.com: > > > > > Hey, Larry...133, 166 or 233 MHz? > > > > > > > It was a 533, but someone upgraded and I got a free 733 P3 so stuck that > in > > there. Doesn't matter much. Motherboard's still running 120 Mhz and all > > my favorite processes are very disk intensive. > > > > Some day I'll get a new gee-whizzer 20Ghz with the 10Ghz motherboard and > > million RPM RAID drives.....when it comes out.....in 2010. I'll buy it as > > soon as the 1Gbps fibre cable is installed. This one runs ok on 4Mbps > > cable. > > > > Oh, for those of us with "medium" speed machines, faster than 350Mhz, I > > found a great DVD-RW external USB2.0 drive that burns DVDs fast on old, > > slow P3 machines. It's the LiteOn SOHW-1673SX external DVD drive. I've > > tried many that said they'd work on a 500 Mhz P3 Win98SE machine that > > didn't. This thing is uncanny! Burns CDRs at 48X and DVDs at 6X without > > crashing! My internal TDK CDR burner bogs the system to a stall at 8X on > > the IDE bus. Must be a processor inside the LiteOn that unloads the > > computer a lot. It was $109 at Circuit City but is even cheaper if you > > order off the net. If you want to burn single OR EVEN DUAL LAYER DVDs on > a > > tired old Win98SE 450 or 550 Mhz P3, DIS BE DA ONE! > > > > Be informed the correct driver for Win98SE is NOT on any of the Nero 6 or > > DVD player disks that come with the drive. Download the correct Win98SE > > driver from: > > http://www.liteonit.com/ODD/English/e_downloads/e_drivers.asp > > Click on V605.zip and download it. > > Unzip it and install it first, then plug in the drive and it works first > > class....Save you the telephone tag I went through. > > > > -- > > Larry > > Article: 323989 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Music for your radio station? From: Larry Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:04:44 -0400 Over on alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1940s is an excellent posting of a great mix of 20s, 30s, and 40s music for that kilowatt phono oscillator running in the attic to entertain the neighbors. Looks for MEGA REPOST - Sentimental Journey, which fills most of the postings for the last few days. The posting continues! Go get 'em! As the old record bandwidth was low, whoever encoded them did us all a favor and uses 64Kbps MP3 encoding. On an MP3 CDR, you'll get 20 hours on it, easy! I'm going to put these on the antique 20GB portable MP3 player and hide it with its little IC amp inside the Motorola 41D 1939 portable. Great fun at the old-fashioned diner I have breakfast in sometimes....(c; -- Larry Article: 323990 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT-Computer junk: Akai Factory Service? From: Larry References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2zp3f.216$Xj4.25657@monger.newsread.com> <0yv3f.241$Xj4.27781@monger.newsread.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:28:25 -0400 "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in news:0yv3f.241$Xj4.27781@monger.newsread.com: > PS Larry, it's the architecture of the bus more than most other things > that determines how a system runs. I'm finding I like non-Intel/VIA > bridges a little better now, but a good 100 MHz bus with a coprocessor > involved would often seem to work more nicely, clear back to the days > I was using P90s. > It would be nice to have a faster motherboard than 120, here. My typing this message comes in jerks and fits because the MP3 player is playing that Sentimental Journey MP3 stuff I posted about a few minutes ago and the data is pouring into the Ethernet port from Knology's direct Usenetserver port at around 500KB/sec. I can see my system holding up the downloading when its buffer gets full before the processor has time to store it even though I'm at 64K buffer on that port. Just takes a little more time to fill the 660GB hard drives...(c; But, alas, looking back....I used to be the sysop of the Charleston Computer Club's closet BBS hidden away in the history dept of the College of Charleston. The history chair was its biggest fan. He was usually prez of the club. Remember when we used to sit, totally fascinated, connected to the BBS at 1200 baud wondering where we were going to store all that stuff?....(c; The closet had 8 phone lines and 8 modems piled up on top of the box. "Those were the days." Be nice to me and I'll give you the special password to the hidden files! -- Larry Article: 323991 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 12:36:58 -0600 Message-ID: References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:diknbk06np@news4.newsguy.com... > Don wrote: >>>You're supposed to buy constant new items from them and let the >>> >>>>trash man have last year's model for the landfill. Seen any restored >>>>Datsuns or Toyopets at a car show? (Sure would like to have my >>>>2-cylinder >>>>Honda S-600 that got 65mpg back...[snif]) > >> I had to wait 3 weeks for a $87 part to fix my 2001 Nissan Sentra. >> They originally told me 1 month. I called 1-800-nissanusa, and >> complained. >> The dealer wanted to charge me $44 for shipping, too. > > > 1986 Corolla here. I've never had a problem getting parts. Of course, that > is largely because it hasn't needed too many replacement ones in the first > place. i bought a 'used' (had 8k miles on it) corolla back in 93. ive seen many of my friends go through 2-3 cars and my corolla with over 150K on it is still better than many cars with 30-40k miles on them. still gets 35+ on the highway too. got a friend with a 'first year' corolla too and that damn thing is still running with well over 300k miles on it. randy Article: 323992 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Message-ID: <%Px3f.251$Xj4.28561@monger.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:37:47 GMT Okay, I'm still building the pages and there are typos and stuff to clean up in the copy, but the links aren't dead and navigation is fairly good, so go HERE, Larry, or anyone else, and see my idea of livingroom fun: http://manyrumours.tripod.com/id6.html "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96EE84E0F26EAnoone@63.223.7.253... > Over on alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1940s is an excellent posting of a great > mix of 20s, 30s, and 40s music for that kilowatt phono oscillator running > in the attic to entertain the neighbors. > > Looks for MEGA REPOST - Sentimental Journey, which fills most of the > postings for the last few days. The posting continues! Go get 'em! > > As the old record bandwidth was low, whoever encoded them did us all a > favor and uses 64Kbps MP3 encoding. On an MP3 CDR, you'll get 20 hours on > it, easy! > > I'm going to put these on the antique 20GB portable MP3 player and hide it > with its little IC amp inside the Motorola 41D 1939 portable. Great fun at > the old-fashioned diner I have breakfast in sometimes....(c; > > -- > Larry Article: 323993 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2zp3f.216$Xj4.25657@monger.newsread.com> <0yv3f.241$Xj4.27781@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: OT-Computer junk: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 18:46:45 GMT I spent the first seven years of my computing life without any hard drive or on a terminal : ) "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96EE88D8918F8noone@63.223.7.253... > "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in > news:0yv3f.241$Xj4.27781@monger.newsread.com: > > > PS Larry, it's the architecture of the bus more than most other things > > that determines how a system runs. I'm finding I like non-Intel/VIA > > bridges a little better now, but a good 100 MHz bus with a coprocessor > > involved would often seem to work more nicely, clear back to the days > > I was using P90s. > > > > It would be nice to have a faster motherboard than 120, here. My typing > this message comes in jerks and fits because the MP3 player is playing that > Sentimental Journey MP3 stuff I posted about a few minutes ago and the data > is pouring into the Ethernet port from Knology's direct Usenetserver port > at around 500KB/sec. I can see my system holding up the downloading when > its buffer gets full before the processor has time to store it even though > I'm at 64K buffer on that port. Just takes a little more time to fill the > 660GB hard drives...(c; > > But, alas, looking back....I used to be the sysop of the Charleston > Computer Club's closet BBS hidden away in the history dept of the College > of Charleston. The history chair was its biggest fan. He was usually prez > of the club. Remember when we used to sit, totally fascinated, connected > to the BBS at 1200 baud wondering where we were going to store all that > stuff?....(c; The closet had 8 phone lines and 8 modems piled up on top of > the box. "Those were the days." Be nice to me and I'll give you the > special password to the hidden files! > > -- > Larry Article: 323994 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? From: Larry References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:57:12 -0400 "xrongor" wrote in news:dim9c6$4i00$1@news3.infoave.net: > got a friend with a 'first year' corolla too and that damn thing is > still running with well over 300k miles on it. > > randy > Best car I ever owned was a 1986 Nissan Stanza Vanwagon, a kinda cross between a minivan and station wagon with the engine sticking sideways out the front so it wasn't inside. Dual sliding doors, 3 seats, 4 cyl FWD and about 9000 little relays from bumper to bumper. The analog injection computer was under the driver's seat. I sold it to a kid at Arby's who needed a cheap car to get to a new job with Holiday Inn reservations. It had 350K miles on it...ran fine until he ran over a rock and tore the oil pan off it. Pity....I paid $2900 for it, used. Before me it belonged to a lady, here. I'd like to find another one some little old lady kept in her garage and drove to church on Sunday in..... -- Larry Article: 323995 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Raymond Koonce Subject: Re: Wester Electric 300B triode References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 14:00:38 -0500 Omer Suleimanagich wrote: > How would someone use such a tube in home audio? > > Omer > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Wester-Electric-300B-triode-Vaccum-tube-Y_W0QQitemZ5818519268QQcategoryZ73381QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Hi Omer, I have built several 300B amps using brands other than Western Electric, mainly due to the cost. It's a very linear tube which produces about 8 watts in single ended configuration. My "to-do" list also includes a push-pull 300B amp. Regards, Raymond Article: 323996 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT-Computer junk: Akai Factory Service? From: Larry References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2zp3f.216$Xj4.25657@monger.newsread.com> <0yv3f.241$Xj4.27781@monger.newsread.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:02:29 -0400 "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in news:pYx3f.252$Xj4.28739@monger.newsread.com: > I spent the first seven years of my computing life without any hard > drive or on a terminal : ) > > Me, too. Altairs didn't come with hard drives....(c; The Catholic Church gave me an IBM Systems 34, once. It had hard drives, but I didn't have 3 phase 408VAC to run it. 8 terminals and a chain printer. Came with complete OS and manufacturing software accounting/inventory/ordering/etc. for a small manufacturer. Someone donated it to them. Noone wanted it so it ended up in the dumpster(S). I ran out of storage....not disk storage, storage-storage. -- Larry Article: 323997 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Wester Electric 300B triode Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:19:44 GMT "Raymond Koonce" wrote in message news:Q6y3f.5116$bt2.3883@okepread05... > Omer Suleimanagich wrote: > > > How would someone use such a tube in home audio? > > > > Omer > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Wester-Electric-300B-triode-Vaccum-tube-Y_W0QQitemZ5818519268QQcategoryZ73381QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > > > Hi Omer, > > I have built several 300B amps using brands other than Western Electric, > mainly due to the cost. It's a very linear tube which produces about 8 > watts in single ended configuration. My "to-do" list also includes a > push-pull 300B amp. > > Regards, > > Raymond How else does it compare to a 6V6 configuration beside power? Article: 323998 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: FS - TV-7 D/U ebay item #7553330514 References: <1129158379.001408.139340@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8KKdnaLteOE8NdPeRVn-hg@adelphia.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 20:22:00 GMT Wow, I guess it is! I would steer clear of this one. The only other thing it could be is the wrong bulb but.... K3HVG wrote: > Has anyone noticed the fuse/lamp is lit up??? Something's not right!!! > > f1736 wrote: > >> TV-7 D/U Vacuum Tube Tester Hickok Military TV7 Item number: 7553330514 >> >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/TV-7-D-U-Vacuum-Tube-Tester-Hickok-Military-TV7_W0QQitemZ7553330514QQcategoryZ25422QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >> >> >> Current bid: $56.00 >> Auction ends on: Oct-10-05 10:04:24 PDT >> >> Only 3 days left. >> >> >> More Pictures: - http://www.geocities.com/f1736/tv7du.htm >> >> Thanks >> Greg Fastabend - (fastabendhotmail) >> > Article: 323999 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:01:33 GMT Akai VCRs have always been disasters. The only one I know that is still running is a friend's NTSC/PAL/SECAM unit. I gagged when I heard he got an Akai but it looks like he lucked out. I don't even know if they actually even made their VCRs. Wish I could get a VCR built like the one I had in the early 80s. Built like a truck. The same friend that has the Akai had me go over his first VCR a couple of years ago and it's still running. How old is it? It has rotary tuners. From '82. Guess we had better burn our old tapes to DVD before the VCRs die. Ray "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:diknbk06np@news4.newsguy.com... > Don wrote: >>>You're supposed to buy constant new items from them and let the >>> >>>>trash man have last year's model for the landfill. Seen any restored >>>>Datsuns or Toyopets at a car show? (Sure would like to have my >>>>2-cylinder >>>>Honda S-600 that got 65mpg back...[snif]) > >> I had to wait 3 weeks for a $87 part to fix my 2001 Nissan Sentra. >> They originally told me 1 month. I called 1-800-nissanusa, and >> complained. >> The dealer wanted to charge me $44 for shipping, too. > > > 1986 Corolla here. I've never had a problem getting parts. Of course, that > is largely because it hasn't needed too many replacement ones in the first > place. There are plenty of first generation Lexuses still being driven > around here as well. > > It has been my experience that auto dealerships tend to be lazy and > unmotivated when it comes to servicing what they sell. The mechanics are > decent but they don't seem to get a hell of a lot of support from the > manufacturers. A good independent shop is a much better deal....They are > hungrier for the business and seem to have a better feel for tracking down > the tough-dog problems and thinking outside the box to solve them. > > The last AKAI-branded product that I owned, A VCR bought in '87, was a > disaster. The AFM circuitry would make fluttering noises when hooked to > cable TV. The muting circuit failed in one audio channel after two months, > resulting in horrible screeching noises when you fast forwarded through > commercials. The video head failed after six months because one of the ICs > was not properly heat-sinked. Mechanically, it was WAY too delicate and > was starting to develop problems with fast-forward and rewind about the > same time the head failed. > > A friend of mine bought the same deck, and it developed similar problems > after about a year of use. The head also failed on his, as well as the > tuner and the video modulator. He gave me his machine and I managed to > cobble enough parts together from the two bad decks to make one good one, > which I gave back to him. It lasted another six months before having a > catastrophic mechanical breakdown. What a joke......two $400.00 decks > tossed into the landfill after only 18 months. I had previously had pretty > good luck with AKAI's reel-to-reel decks, and I was stunned at how far > they had fallen. > > After that fiasco, I bought a SONY SLV-555 VCR to replace the AKAI. It's a > bit long in the tooth, but it still works to this day. I doubt I could > find anything so durably built now. > > I also own two contemporary Panasonic VCRs, which are built as cheap as > can be but seem to be holding up pretty well in the face of abusive > children and virtually zero maintenance. > > -Scott Article: 324000 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" Subject: Age failure or manufacturing flaw? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:16:34 GMT I just went over an old noisy phono preamp and found something odd. Each channel has 2 caps 100mfd @ 25V and ALL 4 had the same problem. They checked beautifully for leakage and ESR but were grossly under value. 33-50% under. I have to suppose that this unit worked OK at one time but have a strong feeling these caps were defective in manufacture. All the other caps in the unit are excellent although these were the only ones of that value. Nippon Chemi-Con brand. Replacing them fixed things. Anyone else ever encounter this? Ray Article: 324001 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <9656-434AA696-1015@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Is this worth the buy it now? Message-ID: <_gA3f.2905$y14.733@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:25:14 GMT BILL! GOOD TO HEAR FROM YOU!!!! Excuse caps, short answer, very excited I've been praying for your recovery; I'm sure others have as well. It's great to have you back -- look forward to chatting with you in the future! "Bill Turner" wrote in message news:9656-434AA696-1015@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net... > HEY ! HOW MUCH DO I OWE YOU? I WROTE YOU SEVERAL DAYS AGO AND HAVENT > GOTTEN AN ANSWER. > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. > > > > Article: 324002 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Mozeleski" References: <1oudnUrS04ZWjtfeRVn-pA@conversent.net> Subject: Re: Zenith R7000-2 Transoceanic Need IC201 (#221-113) Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:48:55 GMT These are some 14 pin dip if/rf chips. LA1201 TAA991D NE511B SE511B NE510A SE510A TBA261AXZ UA757DM UA757DC MC1352P TBA120 LM272N LM372N TAA930B CA3042 CA3041 TAA691 "Paul Moyer" wrote in message news:1oudnUrS04ZWjtfeRVn-pA@conversent.net... >I would greatly appreciate any help to locate a Zenith #221-113 IC or a substitute. This is IC201 on the IF/Audio >module (module #A-8995). > > Many thanks for any help. > > Paul Moyer > Article: 324003 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Raymond Koonce Subject: Re: Wester Electric 300B triode References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:52:40 -0500 Steven Dinius_ wrote: > "Raymond Koonce" wrote in message > news:Q6y3f.5116$bt2.3883@okepread05... > >>Omer Suleimanagich wrote: >> >> >>>How would someone use such a tube in home audio? >>> >>>Omer >>> >>> > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Wester-Electric-300B-triode-Vaccum-tube-Y_W0QQitemZ5818519268QQcategoryZ73381QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > >>> >>Hi Omer, >> >>I have built several 300B amps using brands other than Western Electric, >>mainly due to the cost. It's a very linear tube which produces about 8 >>watts in single ended configuration. My "to-do" list also includes a >>push-pull 300B amp. >> >>Regards, >> >>Raymond > > > How else does it compare to a 6V6 configuration beside power? > > Not having heard a SE 6V6 amp, I can't compare the sound. The power outputs are similar as are plate dissipation ratings. Maybe it's the SE zero global NFB topology that I like. I've also built 45 and 2A3 amps that sound quite good to my ears, and that's what counts to me. Regards, Raymond Article: 324004 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:05:57 -0600 Message-ID: References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> > I'd like to find another one some little old lady kept in her garage and > drove to church on Sunday in..... im still keeping my eyes out for a 70-71 datsun 510 4 door sedan that's been garaged for a while too. funnest car i ever owned. just make sure if you take it off road you got a spare u-joint in the trunk cause there's 6 of em on the car and at any given time one of them is failing back in the day i could change one out in 15-20 minutes. the engines in these things seem to eat head gaskets about every 20-30k miles too, but heck. these things were made back when you could actually work on cars... randy Article: 324005 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jhill" Subject: Re: Age failure or manufacturing flaw? Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 17:28:35 -0500 Message-ID: References: The tolerence on electrolytics is + 100%, -50% thus one marked 100 mfd can actually measure 50 or as much as 200 and still be ok. These were near the limit of tolerence. "Rune" wrote in message news:S8A3f.10$H3.9@twister.nyc.rr.com... > I just went over an old noisy phono preamp and found something odd. > > Each channel has 2 caps 100mfd @ 25V and ALL 4 had the same problem. They > checked beautifully for leakage and ESR but were grossly under value. 33-50% > under. > > I have to suppose that this unit worked OK at one time but have a strong > feeling these caps were defective in manufacture. All the other caps in the > unit are excellent although these were the only ones of that value. > > Nippon Chemi-Con brand. Replacing them fixed things. > > Anyone else ever encounter this? > > Ray > > Article: 324006 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Age failure or manufacturing flaw? Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 16:39:24 -0600 Message-ID: References: depending on where they go in the circuit, they could be well within spec. lots of caps are manufactured to such loose tolerances. or were anyway... randy "Rune" wrote in message news:S8A3f.10$H3.9@twister.nyc.rr.com... >I just went over an old noisy phono preamp and found something odd. > > Each channel has 2 caps 100mfd @ 25V and ALL 4 had the same problem. They > checked beautifully for leakage and ESR but were grossly under value. > 33-50% under. > > I have to suppose that this unit worked OK at one time but have a strong > feeling these caps were defective in manufacture. All the other caps in > the unit are excellent although these were the only ones of that value. > > Nippon Chemi-Con brand. Replacing them fixed things. > > Anyone else ever encounter this? > > Ray > Article: 324007 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: HISTORY CHANNEL DOC NEEDS PROPS Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 22:57:08 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1123543447.821036.107210@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1MSdnXA6GPcpaWrfRVn-qQ@comcast.com> <4349FF1D.9EE18225@earthlink.net> <2oK2f.13710$Fc4.9521@twister.nyc.rr.com> <434C3F43.253B3636@earthlink.net> <%5m3f.731$QM5.597@tornado.socal.rr.com> In <%5m3f.731$QM5.597@tornado.socal.rr.com> Jeffrey D Angus writes: >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0345388526/qid=1129180481/sr=8-9/ref=pd_bbs_9/102-5030739-3432155?v=glance&s=books&n=507846 Thanks! I especially like the "333 used & new available from $0.01" :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 324008 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: FS - TV-7 D/U ebay item #7553330514 References: <1129158379.001408.139340@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8KKdnaLteOE8NdPeRVn-hg@adelphia.com> <1129246269.651992.169350@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:47:24 GMT If you look at the 5th pic down on the More Pictures page you will see the pilot lamp lit and a tube(looks like a 5Y3) and the fuse lamp really lit up. Tor wrote: > K3HVG wrote: > >>Has anyone noticed the fuse/lamp is lit up??? Something's not right!!! >> >> >>f1736 wrote: >> >>>TV-7 D/U Vacuum Tube Tester Hickok Military TV7 Item number: 7553330514 >>> >>> >>>http://cgi.ebay.com/TV-7-D-U-Vacuum-Tube-Tester-Hickok-Military-TV7_W0QQitemZ7553330514QQcategoryZ25422QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem >>> >>>Current bid: $56.00 >>>Auction ends on: Oct-10-05 10:04:24 PDT >>> >>>Only 3 days left. >>> >>> >>>More Pictures: - http://www.geocities.com/f1736/tv7du.htm >>> >>>Thanks >>>Greg Fastabend - (fastabendhotmail) > > > How can it be lit when it isn't plugged in??? The cord and plug is > coiled up in the lid. Lid! > > Ya sure you betcha' > > Tor Johnson > Brimson, Minnesota > Article: 324009 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Age failure or manufacturing flaw? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 00:04:47 GMT Years ago I had a Heathkit stereo tuner and matching amp that had a strange problem. In fact I was able to buy it cheap because of the problem. The sound was weak and tinny. The culprit? There was an electrolytic at the input of the amp that was bad. Both channels did the exact same thing. I replaced both caps, used the stereo for years. I kinda wish I still had it. Both pieces had clear plastic knobs, chrome on the front, and a clear bezel that lit up brightly when turned on. You turned it off and on by pressing the "Heathkit" insignia on the bottom right corner. That was my second neatest stereo, second only to a Fisher I once had. Did I tell you I also once owned an RCA CT-100 color TV? I still have the Sams for it, but what's the Sams worth? Ho hum . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Rune" wrote in message news:S8A3f.10$H3.9@twister.nyc.rr.com... >I just went over an old noisy phono preamp and found something odd. > > Each channel has 2 caps 100mfd @ 25V and ALL 4 had the same problem. They > checked beautifully for leakage and ESR but were grossly under value. > 33-50% under. > > I have to suppose that this unit worked OK at one time but have a strong > feeling these caps were defective in manufacture. All the other caps in > the unit are excellent although these were the only ones of that value. > > Nippon Chemi-Con brand. Replacing them fixed things. > > Anyone else ever encounter this? > > Ray > Article: 324010 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Message-ID: References: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 00:14:51 GMT The posting may continue, but my 1/4wit news server has apparently blocked it. All I get is a couple of messages thanking Sargasso for posting. Weird. Gordon Richmond Article: 324011 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Message-ID: References: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 00:21:38 GMT And Google doesn't even acknowledge the group's existence. Weirder still. Gordon Richmond Article: 324012 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "40zeffer" Subject: EARLY VICTOR NSOLE Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 20:26:11 +0200 Message-ID: HI ALL, I HAVE A PRETTY SWEET R-32 9 TUBE LOWBOY I NEED TO SEND TO A NEW HOME..ANYBODY HERE..IS IT TIME FOR THE FLEA MARKET....TOLEDO OHIO.. Article: 324013 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: FA not mine, a Capehart! References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 00:48:27 GMT Mark Oppat wrote: > > this thing's gotta weigh a ton! > http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/166-CAPEHART-CONSOLE-RADIO-RECORD-PLAYER-MODEL_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28221QQitemZ6567805230QQrdZ1 > It does, I had one like that about 20 years ago. Gave it away for $100. That record flipping mech is a pot metal nightmare. When a friend gave it to me he handed me a box full of pot metal pieces and said here's the rest of the record changer... Ron Article: 324014 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" Subject: Walton From Hell.... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:00:43 -0400 John Boy's Frankenradio nightmare!!! Arrrgh. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6568695689 Article: 324015 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1129252461.253328.211610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Walton From Hell.... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:24:41 -0400 wrote in message news:1129252461.253328.211610@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > Good God, missing 2 tubes, the speaker, the back frame falling apart > and going for $680? Are people just stupid or have more money to burn > then they know what to do with. > Missing the speaker because it is a 12-tube console chassis stuffed into what was probably a 7J cabinet. It's hard to cobble a replacement for the original push-pull 12-tube Walton that won't pass for faked. Also, note the hacked veneer on the front panel, it should be a nice burl. Sides look like they were redone. It will sell for 900 or so, just for the cabinet which can be saved. Pete Article: 324016 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:09:58 -0600 Message-ID: <1233-434F0566-325@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: To much trouble for us computer handycaps . XM radio plays this 24-7 tossing in tid bits of old news broadcasts and vintage shows . Article: 324017 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mark S" References: Subject: Re: FA not mine, a Capehart! Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 01:38:17 GMT "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:vfD3f.5776$OM.258950@twister.southeast.rr.com... > Mark Oppat wrote: > > > > this thing's gotta weigh a ton! > > http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/166-CAPEHART-CONSOLE-RADIO-RECORD-PLAYER-MODEL_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28221QQitemZ6567805230QQrdZ1 > > > > It does, I had one like that about 20 years ago. Gave it away > for $100. > That record flipping mech is a pot metal nightmare. > When a friend gave it to me he handed me a box full of pot metal pieces > and said here's the rest of the record changer... > > Ron Damn, the first thing that came to mind was it could be a cutter, need a hefty amp for that. Riders says (2) 20 watt amps and one 14" speaker and one 12 speaker. Appaently there were a few different combos of amps and speakers available for the 400. Look at the @#@%#% motor that apparently drives the turntable fer cryin' out loud! MarkS Article: 324018 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: FS - TV-7 D/U ebay item #7553330514 References: <1129158379.001408.139340@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8KKdnaLteOE8NdPeRVn-hg@adelphia.com> Message-ID: <33E3f.497$Hs.462@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 01:43:27 GMT K3HVG wrote: > Has anyone noticed the fuse/lamp is lit up??? Something's not right!!! Nice trick. Considering that it's not even plugged in. I would take bets on it being a refelction from the over head light. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 324019 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: FA not mine, a Capehart! Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 01:47:28 GMT There's one in Payette whatever the model if I get time money and space. It will be there till Chuck dies and the pawm shop closes if I don't. "Warren Weber" wrote in message news:CNqdnRFesKoHlNLeRVn-ug@bresnan.com... > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:HP-dneUmhI1xYdPeRVn-uA@comcast.com... > > check the dual audio/power chassis on these! Its not stereo, so whats up > > with that??? this thing's gotta weigh a ton! > > What a nice set if you want the best in a R/PH combo..... > > > > http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/166-CAPEHART-CONSOLE-RADIO-RECORD-PLAYER-MODEL_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28221QQitemZ6567805230QQrdZ1 > > > > Mark Oppat > > Also if you read down there is a 20% buyers premium. The last big auctioneer > we had in town started adding a buyers premium. I quit going to his auctions > and so did a lot of regular buyers. Auctioneer sold out and left town. WW > > Article: 324020 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Age failure or manufacturing flaw? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 01:49:32 GMT I've got an AJ-30 you can tackle if you really want it. $10/shipping and that will be 2X my investment in it minus shipping.. "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:zCC3f.3$fc7.1@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Years ago I had a Heathkit stereo tuner and matching amp that had a strange > problem. In fact I was able to buy it cheap because of the problem. The > sound was weak and tinny. The culprit? There was an electrolytic at the > input of the amp that was bad. Both channels did the exact same thing. I > replaced both caps, used the stereo for years. I kinda wish I still had it. > Both pieces had clear plastic knobs, chrome on the front, and a clear bezel > that lit up brightly when turned on. You turned it off and on by pressing > the "Heathkit" insignia on the bottom right corner. That was my second > neatest stereo, second only to a Fisher I once had. Did I tell you I also > once owned an RCA CT-100 color TV? I still have the Sams for it, but what's > the Sams worth? Ho hum . . . > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > > > "Rune" wrote in message > news:S8A3f.10$H3.9@twister.nyc.rr.com... > >I just went over an old noisy phono preamp and found something odd. > > > > Each channel has 2 caps 100mfd @ 25V and ALL 4 had the same problem. They > > checked beautifully for leakage and ESR but were grossly under value. > > 33-50% under. > > > > I have to suppose that this unit worked OK at one time but have a strong > > feeling these caps were defective in manufacture. All the other caps in > > the unit are excellent although these were the only ones of that value. > > > > Nippon Chemi-Con brand. Replacing them fixed things. > > > > Anyone else ever encounter this? > > > > Ray > > > > Article: 324021 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129158379.001408.139340@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8KKdnaLteOE8NdPeRVn-hg@adelphia.com> <33E3f.497$Hs.462@tornado.socal.rr.com> Subject: Re: FS - TV-7 D/U ebay item #7553330514 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 01:52:07 GMT Used a desk lamp with a gooseneck and an open Sherwood to do that once. It had no lights otherwise, was unpowered and it looked damned good. "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:33E3f.497$Hs.462@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > K3HVG wrote: > > Has anyone noticed the fuse/lamp is lit up??? Something's not right!!! > > Nice trick. Considering that it's not even plugged in. > > I would take bets on it being a refelction from the over head light. > > Jeff > -- > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 324022 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jimdandy" Subject: GE K60 Radio Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:28:41 -0500 This is an unusual set. You can see a picture of it in Morgan's Book of Old Radios. The K-60 was also made by GE to sell by RCA (R-38). I am in need of a good print on pdf. The prints that I have found (Beitman) are just not up to snuff when looking closely for parts values. Wonder if anyone has access to one. Thanks Stanley Adams W4SBA Memphis stanleybadams@yahoo.com From kawninja.at.nospam.cableone.dot.net Sun Oct 16 12:13:51 EDT 2005 Article: 324023 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve P." Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Walton From Hell.... Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:50:03 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <11ku76r7hknj0af@corp.supernews.com> References: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 9 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!207.115.63.142!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.net!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!216.168.1.162.MISMATCH!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:324023 Looks like somebody at one time gave it a one hour cabinet restoration "quickie". Probably didn't care if it ever played again. " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:SqD3f.15548$fE5.9049@fed1read06... > John Boy's Frankenradio nightmare!!! Article: 324024 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Walton From Hell.... Message-ID: Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 23:12:00 -0400 "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:iqydnSSgEPmmgdLeRVn-iw@comcast.com... > no a nightmare at all... looks like contact paper on the front, but > otherwise this is a start. Now, if it had holes drilled all over the > cabinet or chassis, or the grille bars missing or the dial butchered, sure. > It will be hell to find the original speaker, but you could sure put a nice > ROLA in there and have a playing radio. A perfect one is going for $3500+ > now... not that I agree with that... > > Mark Oppat > > A perfect 12 tuber would probably go for more these days. But, I'd bet that Walton was never a 12 tuber until someone stuffed that chassis in the cabinet. Yep, you can get a speaker that will work in there, but unless it is the correct speaker with the correct Zenith part number, and without the 12S232 stamped on the cabinet rear, the set isn't going to pass muster as being an original. Someone cut in straight grained veneer to replace the original burl on the front. That will be a bear to get right. But, the cabinet is probably worth 900 bucks even in that condition! Pete Article: 324025 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Walton From Hell.... Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 03:17:08 GMT It's not much better than the Turkish scams we saw earlier, I reckon, but you can rescue parts her not there. " Uncle Peter" wrote in message news:YlF3f.15556$fE5.3629@fed1read06... > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:iqydnSSgEPmmgdLeRVn-iw@comcast.com... > > no a nightmare at all... looks like contact paper on the front, but > > otherwise this is a start. Now, if it had holes drilled all over the > > cabinet or chassis, or the grille bars missing or the dial butchered, > sure. > > It will be hell to find the original speaker, but you could sure put a > nice > > ROLA in there and have a playing radio. A perfect one is going for $3500+ > > now... not that I agree with that... > > > > Mark Oppat > > > > > > A perfect 12 tuber would probably go for more these days. But, I'd bet > that Walton was never a 12 tuber until someone stuffed that chassis in > the cabinet. Yep, you can get a speaker that will work in there, but unless > it is the correct speaker with the correct Zenith part number, and without > the 12S232 stamped on the cabinet rear, the set isn't going to pass muster > as being an original. Someone cut in straight grained veneer to replace the > original burl on the front. That will be a bear to get right. But, the > cabinet is > probably worth 900 bucks even in that condition! > > Pete > > > Article: 324026 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: OT-Computer junk: Akai Factory Service? Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:26:02 -0700 Message-ID: References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2zp3f.216$Xj4.25657@monger.newsread.com> <0yv3f.241$Xj4.27781@monger.newsread.com> Larry wrote: > Me, too. Altairs didn't come with hard drives....(c; > > The Catholic Church gave me an IBM Systems 34, once. It had hard drives, > but I didn't have 3 phase 408VAC to run it. 8 terminals and a chain > printer. Came with complete OS and manufacturing software > accounting/inventory/ordering/etc. for a small manufacturer. Someone > donated it to them. > > Noone wanted it so it ended up in the dumpster(S). I ran out of > storage....not disk storage, storage-storage. No one wanted it because the licensing fees and T & C's for the software are pretty ridiculous, almost extortionist by contemporary standards. It was a gift that would have KILLED a non-profit like a church. Incidentally, there is a way to hack these beasts to work on 110 volt single-phase. A friend of mine did it a dozen or so years ago. It involved using several heavy-duty single phase power supplies and selective separation of low-voltage busses within the unit to load-balance between the supplies. Ahhh, memories. Once upon a time multi-user systems from the likes of IBM and DEC were all the rage. The cost to maintain them was outrageous but users bent over anyway because they had no choice. Then the late 1980's rolled around and many users found they could do just fine with a bunch of networked PCs at 1/20th the price. Sales of the big iron pretty much fell off a cliff in the 1990s as a result. -Scott Article: 324027 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <45306DB5.7CE42D5F@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: EARLY VICTOR NSOLE References: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 04:54:17 GMT jdut123@buckeye-express.com wrote: > > OK how do you post 1 day ahead of my reply????? The clock on his computer is not set properly. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 324028 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Akai Factory Service? Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 21:59:30 -0700 Message-ID: References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> Rune wrote: > Wish I could get a VCR built like the one I had in the early 80s. Built like > a truck. The same friend that has the Akai had me go over his first VCR a > couple of years ago and it's still running. How old is it? It has rotary > tuners. From '82. > That was back in the days when manufacturers were still using industrial strength professional quality mechanicals in their consumer decks. My folks had a VHS RCA top-loader built by Matsushita that they bought in 1978. They got another one after about seven years of constant use and gave me their old one. I used it for about five more years until one of the clutch bands broke and I was too lazy to repair it (I had three other VCRs). Eventually I took it to the dump. I'll never forget watching the old VCR drop from a height of about 30 feet onto solid concrete at the landfill. When it hit the ground, all the plastic side panels flew off but the rest of the deck remained completely intact as if defying its fate. I now have two Panasonic NV8500 professional editing decks in storage that use essentially the same mechanism. They are huge, heavy and made >from seriously indestructable parts. They are apparently somewhat functional but the grease that was used to lube a lot of the sliding parts has petrified and the belts are shot. Someday I will attempt to restore them, just for the hell of it. -Scott Article: 324029 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 05:35:45 GMT Because they are either illegal or porn or they don't intend you to view it, maybe all of the above. Otherwise they wouldn't feel the need to do so, comprende? Not a rocket science issue in the least. "Phil B" wrote in message news:rKednQZniexroNLeRVn-1Q@comcast.com... > Larry, > > OK, this brings up a problem I have with yenc files. I use Outlook Express > with the Fidolook add on. Fidolook decodes yenc files, but it falls short > when you do the "combine and decode" on split files. It doesn't combine them > like OE does with regular uuencode files. It just results in a bunch of > decoded files, one per part. There are free programs to combine multi-part > yenc files, but they all seem to require you to save the parts and then > evoke a separate program to combine them. That's a lot of unnecessary work, > especially for a MEGA POST. > > Can you or anyone suggest a newsreader that does the yenc decode AND combine > in one step? Preferably a free newsreader like OE. > > yenc has always been a sore spot for me. In this day of HS internet, the 14% > improvement in transfer speed of yenc vs. uuencode doesn't mean much, and > yet binaries posters seem to favor it at the expense of extra work for those > who want to download. And to top it off, there are several new "pseudo > standards" in the works threatening to make yenc obsolete. > > Phil B > > Phil B > > > "Larry" wrote in message > news:Xns96EE84E0F26EAnoone@63.223.7.253... > > Over on alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.1940s is an excellent posting of a great > > mix of 20s, 30s, and 40s music for that kilowatt phono oscillator running > > in the attic to entertain the neighbors. > > > > Looks for MEGA REPOST - Sentimental Journey, which fills most of the > > postings for the last few days. The posting continues! Go get 'em! > > > > As the old record bandwidth was low, whoever encoded them did us all a > > favor and uses 64Kbps MP3 encoding. On an MP3 CDR, you'll get 20 hours on > > it, easy! > > > > I'm going to put these on the antique 20GB portable MP3 player and hide it > > with its little IC amp inside the Motorola 41D 1939 portable. Great fun > > at > > the old-fashioned diner I have breakfast in sometimes....(c; > > > > -- > > Larry > > Article: 324030 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: FA not mine, a Capehart! Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2005 22:25:31 -0700 Message-ID: References: Phil Nelson wrote: > Definitely some serious iron. What is the big round component in the lower > right of the middle compartment in rear chassis view? Looks like an > electrical motor?!? That IS an electrical motor! It's used to power the elaborate side-flipping mechanism on the disc changer. Rumor has it that the changer was prone to destroying disks if too many records were stacked at once. I reckon a motor like that one could make short work of that. -Scott Article: 324031 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: FA not mine, but a nice Silvertone console '36 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 05:48:57 GMT Yes, that is a nice set, maybe a little more old-fashioned looking than I'd like but it's definitely a Silvertone. I hope it brings the seller a nice sum. "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:quednWTpIJ3UsdLeRVn-jA@comcast.com... > this is an 8 tube, nice '36 era Silvertone model 1972 console with eye. > Needs a knob (not that hard to find as wood knobs go) and grille cloth > obviously, but the cabinet seems to be solid and with orig. finish methinks. > Seller needs more pix! One of those nice 5 knob sets I like so much... it > might even have the variable IF...would have to look that up. > > couldnt copy the direct link for some reason, here's the # > 6569477110 > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 324032 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: OT-Computer junk: Akai Factory Service? References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2zp3f.216$Xj4.25657@monger.newsread.com> <0yv3f.241$Xj4.27781@monger.newsread.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 06:31:01 GMT Speaking of old computer junk.... http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8706273723 I didn't see any Catalan in the collection though... Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 324033 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: EARLY VICTOR NSOLE From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1129252672.282444.17580@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 06:40:11 GMT In article <1129252672.282444.17580@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, jdut123@buckeye-express.com says... > > >OK how do you post 1 day ahead of my reply????? > strange clock in his computer! Article: 324034 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FA not mine, a Capehart! From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 06:49:12 GMT In article , NOT_MY_REAL@email.com says... > > > >-Scott Capehart Panamuse 400 series.... rebuilt one of those critters a couple of years ago.... took 5 guys to unload and reload that thing into the back of a GMC Suburban.... filled the whole back of it too! Local Phono Nutcase friend of ours came out and serviced the Phono for me... I did the electronics and radio part!... Jean did the cabinet part!... I asked my buddy ... what type of records do you put on this thing... his answer... "Red Labels" ... cause they are nearly worthless anyway! Book says... never less than 5 records ... or more than 13 or something like that... and if you follow the instructions... yup that Record Cruncher actually does work! ... put on less than 5 records.. and get ready to duck small flying pieces of record! bet this one goes to the junkyard... everything in it except the speaker... that part will go to Asia for big bucks!.... John k9uwa Article: 324035 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Walton From Hell.... From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1129252439.310440.169480@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 07:03:57 GMT In article <1129252439.310440.169480@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com>, jdut123@buckeye-express.com says... > > > > Uncle Peter wrote: >> John Boy's Frankenradio nightmare!!! >> >> Arrrgh. >> >> >> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6568695689 Amazing that it actually IS a real 12s232 chassis and it looks pretty clean to me... the box... well the boss is going to look closely at it tomorrow... boy I don't know Mark about that front wood stuff whatever it is.. if thats veneer ... or contact paper?... that worries me more than all the rest of its problems.. the last one we bought had 4 holes in one side... 3/4" ones.. that was an easy fix... John k9uwa Article: 324036 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <9lo2f.11615$Fc4.547@twister.nyc.rr.com> <1128955839.459336.235540@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <2zp3f.216$Xj4.25657@monger.newsread.com> <0yv3f.241$Xj4.27781@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: OT-Computer junk: Akai Factory Service? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:04:29 GMT I used about 7-8 of those models. I do remember seeing this guy's site some time back, too. "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:FgI3f.527$Jo3.354@tornado.socal.rr.com... > Speaking of old computer junk.... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8706273723 > > I didn't see any Catalan in the collection though... > > Jeff > > > -- > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 324037 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 03:01:01 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Phil B" wrote in message news:rKednQZniexroNLeRVn-1Q@comcast.com... > Larry, > > OK, this brings up a problem I have with yenc files. I use Outlook Express > with the Fidolook add on. Fidolook decodes yenc files, but it falls short > when you do the "combine and decode" on split files. It doesn't combine > them like OE does with regular uuencode files. It just results in a bunch > of decoded files, one per part. There are free programs to combine > multi-part yenc files, but they all seem to require you to save the parts > and then evoke a separate program to combine them. That's a lot of > unnecessary work, especially for a MEGA POST. > > Can you or anyone suggest a newsreader that does the yenc decode AND > combine in one step? Preferably a free newsreader like OE. > > yenc has always been a sore spot for me. In this day of HS internet, the > 14% improvement in transfer speed of yenc vs. uuencode doesn't mean much, > and yet binaries posters seem to favor it at the expense of extra work for > those who want to download. And to top it off, there are several new > "pseudo standards" in the works threatening to make yenc obsolete. yenc is already obsolete because binary newsgroups are obsolete. any 'pseudo standard' that works over top of the usenet model is going backwards. this is not to say that they go unused or that everyone has realized this yet.... that said, have you tried this? http://www.ydecode.com/ i used to use it til my isp dropped binary newsgroups. randy Article: 324038 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbelly Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Message-ID: <0q3vk11r4op3cp5h9ad76io3v76ks7pse1@4ax.com> References: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 06:58:28 -0400 On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 03:01:01 -0600, "xrongor" wrote: > >"Phil B" wrote in message >news:rKednQZniexroNLeRVn-1Q@comcast.com... >> Larry, >> >> OK, this brings up a problem I have with yenc files. I use Outlook Express >> with the Fidolook add on. Fidolook decodes yenc files, but it falls short >> when you do the "combine and decode" on split files. It doesn't combine >> them like OE does with regular uuencode files. It just results in a bunch >> of decoded files, one per part. There are free programs to combine >> multi-part yenc files, but they all seem to require you to save the parts >> and then evoke a separate program to combine them. That's a lot of >> unnecessary work, especially for a MEGA POST. >> >> Can you or anyone suggest a newsreader that does the yenc decode AND >> combine in one step? Preferably a free newsreader like OE. >> >> yenc has always been a sore spot for me. In this day of HS internet, the >> 14% improvement in transfer speed of yenc vs. uuencode doesn't mean much, >> and yet binaries posters seem to favor it at the expense of extra work for >> those who want to download. And to top it off, there are several new >> "pseudo standards" in the works threatening to make yenc obsolete. > >yenc is already obsolete because binary newsgroups are obsolete. any >'pseudo standard' that works over top of the usenet model is going >backwards. this is not to say that they go unused or that everyone has >realized this yet.... > >that said, have you tried this? http://www.ydecode.com/ i used to use it >til my isp dropped binary newsgroups. > >randy > Sounds like your ISP is obsolete! Article: 324039 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbelly Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Message-ID: References: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 07:01:52 -0400 On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 01:11:24 -0400, "Phil B" wrote: >Larry, > >OK, this brings up a problem I have with yenc files. I use Outlook Express >with the Fidolook add on. Fidolook decodes yenc files, but it falls short >when you do the "combine and decode" on split files. It doesn't combine them >like OE does with regular uuencode files. It just results in a bunch of >decoded files, one per part. There are free programs to combine multi-part >yenc files, but they all seem to require you to save the parts and then >evoke a separate program to combine them. That's a lot of unnecessary work, >especially for a MEGA POST. > >Can you or anyone suggest a newsreader that does the yenc decode AND combine >in one step? Preferably a free newsreader like OE. > Your best bet is to spend a couple bucks and buy a decent newreader. I've been using agent for years and it works great. It's not expensive either. Article: 324040 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Re: FA not mine, a Capehart! Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 07:53:18 -0500 Message-ID: <1gavk1tl3r68s5pjgkj2j9qjcga11qq15m@4ax.com> References: On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:27:55 -0600, "Warren Weber" wrote: > >"Mark Oppat" wrote in message >news:HP-dneUmhI1xYdPeRVn-uA@comcast.com... >> check the dual audio/power chassis on these! Its not stereo, so whats up >> with that??? this thing's gotta weigh a ton! >> What a nice set if you want the best in a R/PH combo..... >> >> http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/166-CAPEHART-CONSOLE-RADIO-RECORD-PLAYER-MODEL_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28221QQitemZ6567805230QQrdZ1 >> >> Mark Oppat > >Also if you read down there is a 20% buyers premium. The last big auctioneer >we had in town started adding a buyers premium. I quit going to his auctions >and so did a lot of regular buyers. Auctioneer sold out and left town. WW > Also if you want to bid you have to agree to a separate agreement, which looks fine to me, but you also have to let the auction house place cookies. I got too damn many cookies now! No cookies, no bid. Who loses? JMHO John Article: 324041 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil (J. B. Wood) Subject: Re: Motorola Take Apart Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:03:44 -0400 Message-ID: References: <1128842362.030368.203950@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129159608.661842.154630@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1129260940.665926.106170@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In article <1129260940.665926.106170@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, "RadioGary" wrote: > John, > > I hope you did not take what I had to say the wrong way. It's a to > each his own kind of thing. That's what makes this hobby and Ham Radio > so diverse. I've met many collectors who do things differently. We > all have our thing. As long as we have interest in the hobby, that's > what makes it enjoyable. These days it's getting difficult to find a > good old set that hasn't been restored in a bad way. Badly mismatched > speakers, painted cabinets, and my personal favorite, a heavy duty > extension cord off of a hedge trimmer stuffed inside a bakelite deco > radio. > > Enjoyy the hobby as I have. I've learned more about electronics in the > few years I've been fixing up old radios than in decades of being a Ham > Radio enthusiast. No offense to that either. Take care, GB.... Certainly no offense taken, Gary. One of the reasons I hang out on this ng is that I really do enjoy reading the posts and learning something new. Also r.a.r.p is the first stop when looking for parts or schematics. Sincerely and 73s, John Wood (Code 5550) e-mail: wood@itd.nrl.navy.mil Naval Research Laboratory 4555 Overlook Avenue, SW Washington, DC 20375-5337 Article: 324042 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Walton From Hell.... Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 08:15:06 -0400 Message-ID: <11kv8acddt8ca4a@corp.supernews.com> References: <1129252439.310440.169480@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> jdut123@buckeye-express.com wrote: > > > > Good God, missing 2 tubes, the speaker, the back frame falling apart > and going for $680? Are people just stupid or have more money to burn > then they know what to do with. > A correct bargain price for this at a *swap* EXACTLY as it us would be about $1000-. I'd bid that but why bother as it will go much higher. John H. Article: 324043 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1gavk1tl3r68s5pjgkj2j9qjcga11qq15m@4ax.com> Subject: Re: FA not mine, a Capehart! Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:53:45 GMT Gee, you win, you collect, you delete cookies. There's a button for that one: Tools/Internet Options/Temporary Internet Files/Delete Cookies (or files)... In 23 years on one of these things, I've yet to find a "monster" cookie. "John Bachman" wrote in message news:1gavk1tl3r68s5pjgkj2j9qjcga11qq15m@4ax.com... > On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 19:27:55 -0600, "Warren Weber" SPAM@1236bresnan.net> wrote: > > > > >"Mark Oppat" wrote in message > >news:HP-dneUmhI1xYdPeRVn-uA@comcast.com... > >> check the dual audio/power chassis on these! Its not stereo, so whats up > >> with that??? this thing's gotta weigh a ton! > >> What a nice set if you want the best in a R/PH combo..... > >> > >> http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/166-CAPEHART-CONSOLE-RADIO-RECORD-PLAYER-MODEL_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28221QQitemZ6567805230QQrdZ1 > >> > >> Mark Oppat > > > >Also if you read down there is a 20% buyers premium. The last big auctioneer > >we had in town started adding a buyers premium. I quit going to his auctions > >and so did a lot of regular buyers. Auctioneer sold out and left town. WW > > > Also if you want to bid you have to agree to a separate agreement, > which looks fine to me, but you also have to let the auction house > place cookies. I got too damn many cookies now! > > No cookies, no bid. Who loses? > > JMHO > > John Article: 324044 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129158379.001408.139340@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8KKdnaLteOE8NdPeRVn-hg@adelphia.com> <33E3f.497$Hs.462@tornado.socal.rr.com> Subject: Re: FS - TV-7 D/U ebay item #7553330514 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:54:49 GMT Maybe Major Armstrong is trying to channel. "K3HVG" wrote in message news:W7GdneR7zOVcHtLeRVn-uA@adelphia.com... > Its the wrong bulb, too. It sticks out way too far. Maybe that's the > problem. Correct bulb.. no prob??? > > Article: 324045 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129295383.436463.85910@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Age failure or manufacturing flaw? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:59:42 GMT So far, everything BUT caps has been my trouble concerning older Pioneer, as it's mostly mechanical (one blown output stage). ELNA, OTOH is a brand I sometimes wonder about. wrote in message news:1129295383.436463.85910@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > > Rune wrote: > > I just went over an old noisy phono preamp and found something odd. > > > > Each channel has 2 caps 100mfd @ 25V and ALL 4 had the same problem. They > > checked beautifully for leakage and ESR but were grossly under value. 33-50% > > under. > > > > I have to suppose that this unit worked OK at one time but have a strong > > feeling these caps were defective in manufacture. All the other caps in the > > unit are excellent although these were the only ones of that value. > > > > Nippon Chemi-Con brand. Replacing them fixed things. > > > > Anyone else ever encounter this? > > All the time. > > I see numerous older solid state units, 60's/70's (consumer audio and > MI/studio gear) that will have a few of one particular value/production > run, where two or more of that same cap 'batch' are bad; at that point, > SOP here is to replace *all* of that value/run in the unit. > > Frequently, as you evidently found, the other 'cap batchs' in a piece > are still 'OK'. > > IMO it's a chemical/age 'timeout' (*not* 'original manufacturing > tolerances'.) My empirical evidence of this, your particular case > included, is that if we assume that the equipment worked correctly for > some period of time from new, and replacing (only) the one value/run of > caps (as you did) fixes it, the logical conclusion is that only those > caps have 'changed' (deteriorated...) > > The phenomena makes my quotes for i.e. older Pioneer Hi-Fi units high > (lots of labor to replace lots of caps...) > > You didn't mantion the actual fault(s) in said preamp, so I can't use > my crystal ball for any other fault analysis; i.e. if they were > decoupler caps, or bypass caps, it's quite possible that *another* > component has changed value/deteriorated, i.e. I also see high value > resistors in SS pieces go up in value (and potentially the original > 'measuring half value' ~50 mfd caps were adequate for their 'circuit > job' before the other circuit component value drifted...) > > Before the day of Spice and other CAD engineering approaches, many > circuits were simply breadboarded and subsequently manufactured after > prototyping without real consideration given to failure analysis (i.e. > what happens if this part goes 5% up in value?); I periodically see > circuits that have one 'magic' part that by nature is assumed to be in > a +-20% tolerance 'OK' situation (and indeed it's a 20% spec part), but > turns out to have critical application, such that 'normal' drift ends > up causing (IMO) a 'premature' circuit failure... > > Bottom line? It's fixed, Congratulations(! ......next) > -Robert > Article: 324046 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129252439.310440.169480@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <11kv8acddt8ca4a@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Walton From Hell.... Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:01:49 GMT "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11kv8acddt8ca4a@corp.supernews.com... > > > jdut123@buckeye-express.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > Good God, missing 2 tubes, the speaker, the back frame falling apart > > and going for $680? Are people just stupid or have more money to burn > > then they know what to do with. > > > > A correct bargain price for this at a *swap* EXACTLY as it us would be > about $1000-. I'd bid that but why bother as it will go much higher. > > John H. Yaah, and them that has, can have. I would like to get out of debt before I'm 40 (June). Article: 324047 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? From: Ron Ramirez References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:26:11 GMT Yes, Xnews. It combines and decodes yEnc files automatically...and it's free. http://xnews.newsguy.com/ -- Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ and the new Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php "Phil B" wrote in news:rKednQZniexroNLeRVn-1Q@comcast.com: > Can you or anyone suggest a newsreader that does the yenc decode AND > combine in one step? Preferably a free newsreader like OE. Article: 324048 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:09:26 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: FA: Is this a scam? Item 5819322766 References: Message-ID: Bill Cohn wrote: > http://cgi.ebay.com/Zenith-D60WLCD-60-LCD-Projection-HDTV-Ready-TV_W0QQitemZ5819322766QQcategoryZ73374QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > This auction looks like a scam. A 60" Zenith HDTV LCD Projector for > $75.00 and shipped for $85.00. The seller only accepts wire transfers. > Give me a break!!! > > Ebay item number: 5819322766 Looks like a hijacked account. -Bill Article: 324049 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:11:12 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: New growth business -- buying up cathedrals and discarding the References: Message-ID: <7bc03$434fe6b1$4232bdc7$8975@COQUI.NET> Phil Nelson wrote: > The following email came in today. > > (Grrr!) > SNIP It was nice of you to delete the person's email address. That will save him much grief. -Bill Article: 324050 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Is this a scam? Item 5819322766 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:15:18 GMT You know what to do, then. "Bill Cohn" wrote in message news:s8-dnco798cyRNLenZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/Zenith-D60WLCD-60-LCD-Projection-HDTV-Ready-TV_W0QQitemZ5819322766QQcategoryZ73374QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > This auction looks like a scam. A 60" Zenith HDTV LCD Projector for > $75.00 and shipped for $85.00. The seller only accepts wire transfers. > Give me a break!!! > > Ebay item number: 5819322766 Article: 324051 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: New growth business -- buying up cathedrals and discarding the chassis Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:17:00 GMT You also know what to do. "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:bPOdnaJ7-tGLftLeRVn-hg@giganews.com... > The following email came in today. > > (Grrr!) > > Phil Nelson > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: > >To: Phil Nelson (Phil's Old Radios) > >Subject: Inquiry > > > >I am looking for cathedral style wooden radios. I am replacing the > >electronics. Please advise on what you have for sale and the pricing. > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: Phil Nelson (Phil's Old Radios) > >To: > >Subject: Re: Inquiry > > > >Do you mean that you remove the old electronics and put in > >new stuff? What do you do with the old chassis? > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: > >To: Phil Nelson (Phil's Old Radios) > >Subject: Re: Inquiry > > > >I remove the old electronics and put in new stuff. I generally > >discard the old electronics or place them in the "bone pile". > >I adapt the new electronics to the existing openings in the > >cabinet. As I am creating the electronics, this is straight > >forward. I am using current technologies in vintage cases > >for the visual emotional impact. I am making these for > >friends who have admired mine. > > > >My interest is in wooden cabinets. The cathedral are of > >greatest interest, but other art deco style units are also. > > > >Let me know what you may have that you would like to > >sell and the pricing. > >---------- > > Article: 324052 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: Subject: Re: WLS and other tube questions Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:45:48 -0400 Message-ID: <434feff3$0$14236$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:jKydnR86QZhJcdLenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@sigecom.net... > I've been sorting some tubes I've had for years and have a couple questions. > What are these? > Globe, base marked WLS in lightning bolts and 2976. Was this related in any > way to WLS Chicago? > > Radiotron globe... > UX-200. What kind of tube is this and what was it found in? > > Finally, a Radiotron UX 199. I found this one in my only manual...was this > for an early D.C. set? > Bruce > The WLS 2976 is in fact an O1A and was sold by Sears who also owned the WLS station at one time. I believe WLS stood for "Worlds Largest Store". There is a web site, sorry don't have the url handy, that goes into a great deal of history about WLS, very interesting reading. Larry Fowkes Article: 324053 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:00:23 -0400 "Phil B" wrote in news:rKednQZniexroNLeRVn- 1Q@comcast.com: > I use Outlook Express Yecch! The WORST! Here's my boilerplate instructions. Download and install Xnews for free. It simply threads and displays all the pieces as one one, downloads them all together, decodes any kind of encoding transparently, and put them where you told it to when you started.....even while you're not home. Here's the plan: HOW TO DOWNLOAD BINARY FILES FROM USENET: Go to http://xnews.newsguy.com and download the latest Xnews freeware client. Xnews downloads, decodes and stores multipart binaries in any format uploaded to Usenet, automatically. Install it like any other software then boot it up....we'll wait. When it comes up it will ask you for your news server address. Get this >from your Internet provider website. If your ISP doesn't provide news server access, may I recommend http://www.usenetserver.com in Atlanta as your news provider. Truly unlimited service on 6 ports as fast as your connection can go costs merely $14.95/month, cheaper if you buy 3 months at a time, online. Use your credit card and they will automatically bill you. Once you get your news server address, something like news.podunknet.com, enter it into the news address box in Xnews. From the main window of Xnews, click "Special" then "Setup Xnews" and the server address(es) are on the opening window. Xnews supports multiple servers from multiple companies, no problem. Each has his own setup page. Enter the news server name in the box provided. If you need authentication, the username and password boxes are provided here, too. Add them and click the appropriate checkbox. When you click OK Xnews will proceed to connect to the server and download all 74395 newsgroups, or whatever number it has on it. You need this list to select which topics or binary groups you want to open. Let it finish downloading them all. On dialup this is a long process. The list of newsgroups will open an Xnews window displaying them all in order. If you see nothing, click the ALL button and all the newsgroups show up. Normally, once you get going, you will only see newsgroups you've "subscribed" to. Subscribe is inside Xnews and has nothing to do with the server. It merely moves your favorite groups to the top of the list and only displays your favorites unless you click the ALL button down. Slide down the list and look for things that interest you. There are thousands! You may open any group you see without subscribing to it by simply doubleclicking on the group name. This lets you look the group over before subscribing to see if it's what you're interested in. As we're talking about binary music files, slide down the list until you get to alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.jazz and subscribe to it by clicking the + key on your 10-key keypad. The icon will change showing it is subscribed. You can unsubscribe from any newsgroup at any time by pointing to it on this list and clicking the - key on the 10key pad. Ok, it's subscribed, click the ALL button 'up' and you should only see one subscribed newsgroup in the blank window. Doubleclick on the jazz newsgroup to open its new window, the message list window. If there are way too many messages in a newsgroup, and there are in binary newsgroups that are active, Xnews will open a special popup window to ask you to set some limits on how many messages it is to download to look at. This window has two "slider controls" across the top and boxes that tell you how many messages are between the current settings of the sliders. You click and drag the sliders sideways to move them. Click the beginning slider and move it to the right until you only see 100,000 messages or less in the message counter window. The longer the message list is, the more memory it necessarily gobbles up. The shorter the list is, the faster everything operates. My old slow Win98SE 550Mhz 128M machine bogs over 100K messages. Too few messages and you miss songs in an album someone has posted. Click OK and the message limits you selected will start loading the XOVER data, the message list. Let the whole list load. After it's loaded, Xnews will sort, thread and alphabetize the messages by subject field, automatically. To sort another way, simply click the top of the field down to resort the list, by date for instance or uploader guy. Leave it by subject, for now. That's normally the way you use it. Xnews threaded all the parts to a multi-part binary together into ONE LINE on the list, noting in a field to the right 12/12 for 12 messages of 12 expected. When it finds all the parts to this binary, a light blue Rubix cube icon shows up on the left side of this line, this song on an MP3 group. That means all the parts are available and the song will play. If parts are missing, a dark blue partial Rubix cube icon will show. You can't get that binary because it's not available. There are new methods with PAR files to recreate it but I'm not covering them, now. Don't try to download partial files for now. There are thousands of good files to listen to in any group. Movies are another, more complex animal, but that's another instruction file. Slide down the list and see that posters normally post subject lines that go in order, in MP3 groups, in the order of the songs on an album, normally. Stop sliding when you come to a group of songs you like (or dislike for this exercise). Notice just to the right of the Subject fields is a field marked 'Q' at the top...Q is for que. To download binary files, without you even having to be in the house, Xnews has a que built into it. You can select one MP3 by simply clicking on that line's Q space and a number will appear, the first number is 1. The next number is 1 + how many ever messages are in the first file. The last number you clicked is always how many messages are left in the que. On broadband cable or DSL, don't click up numbers higher than 30,000 messages. 10,000 is more comfortable. That's LOTS of music...hours and hours! If you click on the first song Q field in an album and DRAG down the Q fields across all the songs in that album, they'll all light up with numbers in the Q field, putting them all in the download que. For now, click and drag one album, probably about 15 songs in a row. SPECIAL WARNING - NEVER, EVER, EVER DOWNLOAD ANY KIND OF BINARY FILE THAT RUNS! THEY ARE ALL VIRUS/TROJANS TO DESTROY YOUR SYSTEM. NO .EXE, .COM, .BAT, .DLL, OR ANY OTHER KIND OF PROGRAM FILES!! ONLY PICTURES, TEXT, MUSIC (MP3, OGG, FLAC, WMV, WAV, etc.) files should be downloaded and decoded. I don't care how much you want that software he posted, DO NOT DOWNLOAD ANY SOFTWARE!! It's just too dangerous to download from Usenet and run any program! 'Nuf said... Ok, we have an album selected. Down in the middle of the bottom, you see a Rubix Cube button...the Download button. Click it and Xnews opens up a standard old Windows folder selector window. Xnews is asking you where you want it to put the music! If you don't have a place, TYPE the path name in you want it to create like C:\JAZZ DOWNLOAD and it won't find what you typed. It will popup another window asking you if you want it to create a new directory to put these files into...Click Yes and we're on our way. Without typing, you can browse to select an existing folder/directory in the tree, like with other programs. Xnews is now downloading text encoded binary files in pieces limited to 10,000 lines by the design of Usenet, which was never designed for binary files in the first place. It is decoding the downloaded text messages, on the fly, into the original binary code, in this case MP3 data, and storing it, ready to play, where you told it to (even in the root directory if you screwed up selecting the directory, by the way). It will stop when the que is completed and just sit and wait for your return. Double click on the MP3 files over in C:\JAZZ DOWNLOAD and whatever player your system is configured to use will play it, just fine. There, you are now a music pirate....arrest yourself and turn yourself in to the nearest astonished cop trying to keep a straight face. END OF TEXT FILE...... Mine downloads nearly 24/7, here. Why pay for XM when you can play what YOU want, not them, for free! -- Larry Article: 324054 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:05:40 -0400 "xrongor" wrote in news:dins09$55qe$1@news3.infoave.net: > i used to use it > til my isp dropped binary newsgroups. > Usenetserver is only $15/month for UNLIMITED downloading with no censoring even in non-binary groups. You can connect to 6 ports simultaneously. I'm downloading from two of them while I'm typing this to you. They had a bad day, a couple of days ago. Two RAID drives crashed and the posts couldn't be recovered, but that's not normal. I have over 21M MP3 files and 6K full length movies all downloaded from usenet. NEVER connect to a sharing program...that's crap waiting for some kid's 64Kbps modem to send you something when you get full-bandwidth downloading (4Mbps here) from your local usenet server with unlimited bandwidth. You can test out Usenetserver for $3 to see how it works for you for 3 days. Give 'em a try. -- Larry Article: 324055 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:07:10 -0400 Beerbelly wrote in news:cu3vk1ta3okkudbmksu9q8pjh0jghihft8@4ax.com: > Your best bet is to spend a couple bucks and buy a decent newreader. > I've been using agent for years and it works great. It's not expensive > either. > Agent sucks compared to Xnews for que'd binary downloading. Xnews is freeware, and always has been. Works great. Read my boilerplate post on basically how it works in the other message. -- Larry Article: 324056 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:26:27 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: WLS and other tube questions References: <434feff3$0$14236$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> Message-ID: <8006$434ff856$4232bd67$3953@COQUI.NET> Larry Fowkes wrote: > "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message > news:jKydnR86QZhJcdLenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@sigecom.net... > >>I've been sorting some tubes I've had for years and have a couple > > questions. > >>What are these? >>Globe, base marked WLS in lightning bolts and 2976. Was this related in > > any > >>way to WLS Chicago? >> >>Radiotron globe... >>UX-200. What kind of tube is this and what was it found in? >> >>Finally, a Radiotron UX 199. I found this one in my only manual...was this >>for an early D.C. set? >>Bruce >> > The '00 was primarily a detector tube. Not a total vacuum, somewhat gassy by design. The '99 was the predecessor (so to speak) to the 01s. Little triode, very kind to batteries in regard to consumption. Very low gain by later (late 20s) standards. -BM Article: 324057 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:37:47 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: New growth business -- buying up cathedrals and discarding the References: <7bc03$434fe6b1$4232bdc7$8975@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <235fe$434ffafe$4232bd67$14949@COQUI.NET> Phil Nelson wrote: >>It was nice of you to delete the person's email address. That will save >>him much grief. > > > Before loosing the hounds on him, I sent some positive suggestions: > > 1. Send your friends to to buy a nice repro > cathedral with modern electronics. Then you can leave vintage radios to > those who appreciate them. > > 2. Contact the nearest radio collector club to see if anyone has some empty > cabinets, or, if you insist on operating a chop shop, see if anyone there > will take your discarded chassis to save them from the landfill. > > I also pointed out that if he is chopping up things like a Zenith "Walton's" > set, he may destroy something that's more valuable than he thinks! > > Phil Nelson > > We had a nice (long) discussion on the Forum with a lady who does those "shabby chic" paint jobs on old radios. Fortunately she knows a junker when she sees one. In fact, the item that generated the discussion was offered for sale with no takers before she went after it to paint pink roses and ivy. And yes, it is true, it was a piece of junk by anybody else's standards. Not even a decent parts set - not that it matters - parting out a set is little different than making a Paris Cottage Chic decoration piece out of it. For these ungodly 'artistic reincarnations' to have THE right appeal they must inherently be an OLD radio cabinet. That rules out the modern replicas. (What a pity!) A good quality stripper will un-chic an old cabinet in a heartbeat. Keep your eyes open...you may find a Walton's cabinet hiding under a chic paintjob someday for little money! -Bill Article: 324058 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: Is this a scam? Item 5819322766 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:30:45 -0500 "Bill Cohn" wrote in message > This auction looks like a scam. Of course it is. You cant even buy the stand for that amount used. I did see some refurbished ones doing a search for around $1500- 1900. B.H. Article: 324059 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: A Good Clough-Brengle day Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 14:41:18 -0500 You should go play the Lottery Ron. With that luck you'll win : ) B.H. Article: 324060 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Attention Pennsylvanians Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 15:42:15 -0400 Message-ID: <11l02gph0a3avf5@corp.supernews.com> I am thinking of taking a swing through *northeast* PA during a visit to the NYC area at the end of the month. Can anyone recommend an out of the way pocket of antique stores? Thanks! John H. Article: 324061 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: A Good Clough-Brengle day Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:56:10 GMT With his stature as a leader in his regions's radio groups, and after seeing the wonderful site and items he's collected all his life, not to mention his many friends, didn't he win a long time ago? "Brian Hill" wrote in message news:xRT3f.7525$nE2.2585@fe03.lga... > > You should go play the Lottery Ron. With that luck you'll win : ) > > B.H. > > Article: 324062 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 13:59:10 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96EF8EBEEE7D7noone@63.223.7.253... > "xrongor" wrote in > news:dins09$55qe$1@news3.infoave.net: > >> i used to use it >> til my isp dropped binary newsgroups. >> > > Usenetserver is only $15/month for UNLIMITED downloading with no censoring > even in non-binary groups. You can connect to 6 ports simultaneously. > I'm > downloading from two of them while I'm typing this to you. They had a bad > day, a couple of days ago. Two RAID drives crashed and the posts couldn't > be recovered, but that's not normal. I have over 21M MP3 files and 6K > full > length movies all downloaded from usenet. NEVER connect to a sharing > program...that's crap waiting for some kid's 64Kbps modem to send you > something when you get full-bandwidth downloading (4Mbps here) from your > local usenet server with unlimited bandwidth. > > You can test out Usenetserver for $3 to see how it works for you for 3 > days. Give 'em a try. i prefer to use the 'free' website im already paying for to host pictures in a format where anyone with a browser (made in the last say 10 years) can see them. i got too many 'only 15$ a month's" already. and im fundamentally rooting for the long overdue death of binary newsgroups anyway. randy Article: 324063 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: New growth business -- buying up cathedrals and discarding the From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <7bc03$434fe6b1$4232bdc7$8975@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 20:58:48 GMT In article <7bc03$434fe6b1$4232bdc7$8975@COQUI.NET>, exray@coqui.net says... > > >It was nice of you to delete the person's email address. That will save >him much grief. > >-Bill now that about 90% of the newsgroup is good and pissed off at this obvious idiot.... how about now to pop in his email addy.... website would be better if he has one... John k9uwa Article: 324064 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Walton From Hell.... From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1129252439.310440.169480@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <11kv8acddt8ca4a@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:04:11 GMT In article <11kv8acddt8ca4a@corp.supernews.com>, yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net says... > > >A correct bargain price for this at a *swap* EXACTLY as it us would be >about $1000-. I'd bid that but why bother as it will go much higher. > >John H. > HI Hagster .... not too sure about this one going up much from where it is now... won't be me for sure.. I had the boss come in and look at the pictures this morning... also had an email back from the lady seller... first the seller assured me that it isn't contact paper... she said she thinks that the front on it is oak veneer.... and a good job of installing it.... Now for the bosses opinion..... she said this one will never again be a nice Walton Cabinet... that is going to be one serious problem to get that crap off the front and replace with proper burl veneer.. next ... look closely at the rear view.. there is too much wood across the top to pull the framework back together.. like perhaps they replaced the top and made it too wide?... Sounds to me like a good winter project for the Hagster!... John k9uwa Article: 324065 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1129252439.310440.169480@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <11kv8acddt8ca4a@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Walton From Hell.... Message-ID: <9bV3f.15745$fE5.9532@fed1read06> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 17:12:48 -0400 "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:f3V3f.247797$084.121467@attbi_s22... > In article <11kv8acddt8ca4a@corp.supernews.com>, > > > Now for the bosses opinion..... she said this one will never again > be a nice Walton Cabinet... > > that is going to be one serious problem to get that crap off the front > and replace with proper burl veneer.. > > next ... look closely at the rear view.. there is too much wood across > the top to pull the framework back together.. like perhaps they replaced > the top and made it too wide?... > > Sounds to me like a good winter project for the Hagster!... > > John k9uwa > John The base didn't like quite right either, but I can't tell for sure. What does your eyes say? A good job for Hagstar or eddie. Pete Article: 324066 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:03:04 -0400 "xrongor" wrote in news:dip2ia$60gv$1@news3.infoave.net: > and im fundamentally rooting for the long overdue death of binary > newsgroups anyway. > > randy > > Don't hold your breath. Usenetserver has just ordered 20 TERAbytes more disk storage space, trying to keep up with the load so the retention is 30 days. There's 83TB online, today. Binary newsgroups keep expanding, way beyond the point where you can download 10% of it at 4Mbps on broadband. It's advantage is anonymity over p2p, which is for the stupids. I'll never figure out why anyone would want to connect on Napster or any of the others when you can easily download such an amazing variety from a local-to-your- isp usenet server MUCH faster. (Of course, I'm trying to figure out why anyone would buy a PROPRIETARY Ipod or other MP3 player that requires special software that sucks to load it, instead of an Archos or Digital Mind that the computer treats like a USB hard drive with no restrictions.) -- Larry Article: 324067 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: A Good Clough-Brengle day References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:11:32 GMT Steven Dinius_ wrote: > With his stature as a leader in his regions's radio groups, and after seeing > the wonderful site and items he's collected all his life, not to mention his > many friends, didn't he win a long time ago? > You bet, I won a long time ago. I've been enjoying a hobby that I love for more than 35 years. I have lots of friends and I feel like I've been able to "make a difference" in this hobby I love. It don't get much better than that. Let's talk about "luck" for a minute. The Clough-Brengle transmitter that I just got. I tried really hard 5 years ago to win it on ebay. I was unemployed at the time. I convinced my wife that I HAD to have this transmitter, I would sale something >from the collection to put the money back in the bank after I won it. At the time I only had a really slow dialup connection and because of that I got beat out in the last few seconds by someone else. I was so bummed out I couldn't hardly stand it. I contacted the winner and told him that if he ever wanted to sell it to let me know. About a week after the sale ended I got an email from the winner telling me that the seller had shipped it UPS and that it was "severely" damaged in shipment. Now I was bummed out even more. Fast forward to about 5 weeks ago. I get an email from a good friend telling me someone he knows has a Clough-Brengle model 87 for sale. Now for the last couple of months I've been doing a lot of research and writing on Clough-Brengle test equipment. They had pieces of test equipment with model numbers 88 & 89, so the model 87 didn't ring the bell as it should have. I replied to my friend that I would be interested in hearing about it, thinking that it was just another C-B sig. gen. or something. His friend sent me an email a few days later, and when I scrolled down to see the attached photo I almost dropped my teeth, IT'S A TRANSMITTER!!!! I first thought, "my god there's another one". When I went back and reread his message and saw where it was located and then did a little closer looking, and comparing it to the photos I had saved from the ebay sale I discovered that it was the same transmitter. I was to find out that after it was damaged the new owner never got around to doing anything with it and was ready to let it go. He didn't remember me or that I was interested in buying. I expect that had I not found out about it in time it would have found it's self sitting on a flea market table at a Penn. area hamfest. So here's the luck, had it not been damaged, I doubt if he would have sold it, he also sold it to me for a good bit less than he paid for it on ebay since it was damaged. And a little more luck, the damage wasn't all that sever. I already have several of the damaged parts coming to me >from the friend that told me about it being for sale. I'm sure I'll be able to successfully repair or replace any of the damaged parts. Yep, Luck is what it was alright. 73, Ron http://radioheaven.homestead.com/CB87.html Article: 324068 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <%Px3f.251$Xj4.28561@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:12:07 GMT Hi! http://manyrumours.tripod.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/pictures/photos2go_images/entertainment/468977.jpg Steven, what kind of speaker is that? I want one! William Article: 324069 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <7bc03$434fe6b1$4232bdc7$8975@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: New growth business -- buying up cathedrals and discarding the Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:25:45 GMT Let him spread the word we're "angry crackpots" etc when we piss him back..that will be beneficial? Leave him to his "strange" theories and concentrate on what we "can" do. He does have every right to engage in commerce or "Art" as we do, as long as our society finds it both desireable and also "legal". Even if he's a total idiot (and truly an EE) do we need to recieve badmouthing from disgruntled potential fans of our hobby and business(es) over X in lost sets? Sounds like a drag...and fickle consumers may well change their tastes and lead him top other pursuits... Anybody knows the only one to change you IS you, and Phil likely said all that cold be said in the process. "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:c_U3f.486973$xm3.249877@attbi_s21... > In article <7bc03$434fe6b1$4232bdc7$8975@COQUI.NET>, exray@coqui.net > says... > > > > > >It was nice of you to delete the person's email address. That will save > >him much grief. > > > >-Bill > > now that about 90% of the newsgroup is good and pissed off at this > obvious idiot.... how about now to pop in his email addy.... website > would be better if he has one... > > John k9uwa > Article: 324070 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <%Px3f.251$Xj4.28561@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:32:49 GMT I don't know, it is a stock shot, and if I got into the setup I might find the...nope. Google calls them all "image". Hint--I think I just entered "Loudspeaker"...let me search my hard drive later snd I'll see if I can ID it. WHAAAT, YOU DON'T LIKE THE BREAKDANCING GREY ALIEN??? "William R. Walsh" wrote in message news:X2W3f.435919$x96.321487@attbi_s72... > Hi! > > http://manyrumours.tripod.com/imagelib/sitebuilder/pictures/photos2go_images/entertainment/468977.jpg > > Steven, what kind of speaker is that? > > I want one! > > William > > Article: 324071 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:41:27 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In Larry writes: >"xrongor" wrote in >news:dip2ia$60gv$1@news3.infoave.net: >> and im fundamentally rooting for the long overdue death of binary >> newsgroups anyway. >Don't hold your breath. Usenetserver has just ordered 20 TERAbytes more >disk storage space, trying to keep up with the load so the retention is 30 >days. There's 83TB online, today. Binary newsgroups keep expanding, way >beyond the point where you can download 10% of it at 4Mbps on broadband. >It's advantage is anonymity over p2p, which is for the stupids. Randy's not talking about peer-to-peer vs. client-server, he's talking about the propagation model of Usenet. Posts traverse the backbone over and over and over, whether anyone reads them or not. This adds a lot of unnecessary traffic. A better way is to store the files on a server, thereby having them clog up the backbone exactly once for each person who wants them. There are even already handy, well-proven protocols such as ftp & http to help you out. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 324072 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: HERE'S THE SPEAKER FOR THAT STROMBERG 240 SOMEONE BOUGHT From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <11ki75trlfqsa6b@corp.supernews.com> <1129329068.761540.325900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:42:43 GMT In article <1129329068.761540.325900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, pdieten@yahoo.com says... > > >it seems to work well. I'm >pleased. > >paul > Hellava Show Paul! John k9uwa Article: 324073 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <11l02gph0a3avf5@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Attention Pennsylvanians (Slight SS OT for braggin' rights)... Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:43:19 GMT I reckon, Maine is cool too if Yonny's hanging there, but Ontario has all the interesting hard to find stuff, like my Silvertone 4589, and this, an EARLY Technics cassette, which I just picked up needing a belt, level knob and oscillating on R Ch, which I hope to fix, but it plays. This would be a '74 if not one of the very first tape decks, horizontal loading, flip open door Dolby B AND an outboard Dolby FM decoder! The response is terrible (today) at 13000 HZ with chrome and maybe 60 dB with Dolby on, but for 3.75 it's historic. http://www.vintagetechnics.com/tapedecks/rs676us.htm http://www.vintagetechnics.com/tapedecks.htm "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:vOWdnYNhedBJrc3eRVn-jw@comcast.com... > I dont live there, but in my opinion, PA is the BEST state for higher end > radios! Seems the higher end and unique radio stuff on eBay is all from > there. > > Mark Oppat > > > "Hagstar" wrote in message > news:11l02gph0a3avf5@corp.supernews.com... > > I am thinking of taking a swing through *northeast* PA during a visit to > > the NYC area at the end of the month. Can anyone recommend an out of the > > way pocket of antique stores? Thanks! > > > > John H. > > > > > > > Article: 324074 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <11l02gph0a3avf5@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Attention Pennsylvanians (Slight SS OT for braggin' rights)... Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:44:33 GMT Switch knob (for B NR) I mean "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message news:bwW3f.318$Xj4.46169@monger.newsread.com... > I reckon, Maine is cool too if Yonny's hanging there, but Ontario has all > the interesting hard to find stuff, like my Silvertone 4589, and this, an > EARLY Technics cassette, which I just picked up needing a belt, level knob > and oscillating on R Ch, which I hope to fix, but it plays. This would be a > '74 if not one of the very first tape decks, horizontal loading, flip open > door Dolby B AND an outboard Dolby FM decoder! The response is terrible > (today) at 13000 HZ with chrome and maybe 60 dB with Dolby on, but for 3.75 > it's historic. > > http://www.vintagetechnics.com/tapedecks/rs676us.htm > http://www.vintagetechnics.com/tapedecks.htm > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:vOWdnYNhedBJrc3eRVn-jw@comcast.com... > > I dont live there, but in my opinion, PA is the BEST state for higher end > > radios! Seems the higher end and unique radio stuff on eBay is all from > > there. > > > > Mark Oppat > > > > > > "Hagstar" wrote in message > > news:11l02gph0a3avf5@corp.supernews.com... > > > I am thinking of taking a swing through *northeast* PA during a visit to > > > the NYC area at the end of the month. Can anyone recommend an out of the > > > way pocket of antique stores? Thanks! > > > > > > John H. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Article: 324075 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Walton From Hell.... From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1129252439.310440.169480@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <11kv8acddt8ca4a@corp.supernews.com> <9bV3f.15745$fE5.9532@fed1read06> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:46:01 GMT In article <9bV3f.15745$fE5.9532@fed1read06>, radioconnectionNO@cox.netSPAM says... > > > >The base didn't like quite right either, but I can't tell for sure. What >does your eyes say? > >A good job for Hagstar or eddie. > >Pete > > Its been spread out a bit and reglued.... lots of them have that problem.... Zenith put those little L brackets in the corners... but they still don't hold it well... lots of chassis for that box... It will be one major project if someone actually ever fixes that one... John k9uwa Article: 324076 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: RCA 15K or 16K or 14K WHo Wanted one? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:00:42 GMT Someone in the group a while back was looking for one of the higher tube count RCA chassis... take a look at this one.... he says its a 16 tuber including the eye tube... John k9uwa Article: 324077 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 18:08:27 -0500 Larry wrote: > (Of course, I'm trying to figure out why > anyone would buy a PROPRIETARY Ipod or other MP3 player that requires > special software that sucks to load it, instead of an Archos or Digital > Mind that the computer treats like a USB hard drive with no restrictions.) You know, I'm not that so much surprised by what you don't know - as much as how loudly you proclaim it. iPods don't require any "special" software to be used as a USB disk. Once it's set up to do so - it appears on the Mac's or Window's desktop just like any other drive. While iTunes is optional - it isn't required for such use (though being free - why would you not want to use it? and -- you don't even need to own an iPod to enjoy most of iTunes capabilities- as several people I know (that don't own an iPod) use it as their main player on their desktop computer). In fact - iTunes is (in many people's opinion) some of the best software in it's class - it is an excellent playlist manager, format converter, library manager, jukebox player with a slick interface package - all for the shocking price of --- free. Oh yeah - it also makes purchasing music on line and managing protected content a breeze. Most people who don't like iTunes just don't like the fact it doesn't work with their cheap player. Tough. The new iPods (60gb in a hair over a 1/2 inch thick player) play music (including unrestricted MP3s - which can be dragged to the iPod on the desktop - no software required); Photos (jpgs, etc.) and Movies (up to around 150 hours of video). Yeah - they're junk - ask any of the (what is it now- 35 million?) people that own one. just my .02... Article: 324078 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: WLS and other tube questions From: Ron Ramirez References: <434feff3$0$14236$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:12:46 GMT http://www.wlshistory.com/ Great reading. The 1970s section brings back wonderful memories of my teenage years...living in western Kentucky, in the country, with a 100+ foot longwire antenna; any old radio that would bring in WLS in the daytime, I considered to be a very good radio. :-) -- Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ and the new Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php "Larry Fowkes" wrote in news:434feff3$0$14236$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com: > There > is a web site, sorry don't have the url handy, that goes into a great > deal of history about WLS, very interesting reading. Article: 324079 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: RCA 15K or 16K or 14K WHo Wanted one? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:14:24 GMT Well.. me might know the liason for that one very well... "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:uMW3f.247941$084.82498@attbi_s22... > Someone in the group a while back was looking for one of the higher > tube count RCA chassis... > > > take a look at this one.... he says its a 16 tuber including the > eye tube... > > 0QQitemZ6569781885> > > John k9uwa > > Article: 324080 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <434feff3$0$14236$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> Subject: Re: WLS and other tube questions Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:17:41 GMT I really enjoyed the 1970s aspects of it too, as I could relate to jocks >from that era. It was a time unlike any other in radio. "Ron Ramirez" wrote in message news:Xns96EFB93F82A97mrphilco@207.115.63.158... > http://www.wlshistory.com/ > > Great reading. The 1970s section brings back wonderful memories of my > teenage years...living in western Kentucky, in the country, with a 100+ > foot longwire antenna; any old radio that would bring in WLS in the > daytime, I considered to be a very good radio. :-) -- > Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana > Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ > and the new Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php > > "Larry Fowkes" wrote in > news:434feff3$0$14236$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com: > > > There > > is a web site, sorry don't have the url handy, that goes into a great > > deal of history about WLS, very interesting reading. Article: 324081 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Message-ID: <4aX3f.326$Xj4.46307@monger.newsread.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:28:00 GMT Mine doesn't need a hard drive-it receives analog streaming with multiple channels in 2 bands and comes in two flavors--AM and FM. Software was originally deliver by a disc of carbon etc tube amplified and later round discs encoded by a lathe and decoded by a sapphire or diamond chunk and a ceramic pickup device. The equipment has changed, improved and become simpler to use in 80 years, but it's the main way I listen to radio. Did I say it's a radio receiver? D'oh! "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message news:QRW3f.6715$MG.1945@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > Larry wrote: > > (Of course, I'm trying to figure out why > > anyone would buy a PROPRIETARY Ipod or other MP3 player that requires > > special software that sucks to load it, instead of an Archos or Digital > > Mind that the computer treats like a USB hard drive with no restrictions.) > > You know, I'm not that so much surprised by what you don't know - as > much as how loudly you proclaim it. > > iPods don't require any "special" software to be used as a USB disk. > Once it's set up to do so - it appears on the Mac's or Window's desktop > just like any other drive. While iTunes is optional - it isn't required > for such use (though being free - why would you not want to use it? and > -- you don't even need to own an iPod to enjoy most of iTunes > capabilities- as several people I know (that don't own an iPod) use it > as their main player on their desktop computer). > > In fact - iTunes is (in many people's opinion) some of the best > software in it's class - it is an excellent playlist manager, format > converter, library manager, jukebox player with a slick interface > package - all for the shocking price of --- free. > > Oh yeah - it also makes purchasing music on line and managing protected > content a breeze. Most people who don't like iTunes just don't like the > fact it doesn't work with their cheap player. Tough. The new iPods > (60gb in a hair over a 1/2 inch thick player) play music (including > unrestricted MP3s - which can be dragged to the iPod on the desktop - no > software required); Photos (jpgs, etc.) and Movies (up to around 150 > hours of video). Yeah - they're junk - ask any of the (what is it now- > 35 million?) people that own one. > > just my .02... Article: 324082 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: WLS and other tube questions References: <434feff3$0$14236$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> <8006$434ff856$4232bd67$3953@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:29:36 -0400 Bill wrote: > Larry Fowkes wrote: > >> "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message >> news:jKydnR86QZhJcdLenZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@sigecom.net... >> >>> I've been sorting some tubes I've had for years and have a couple >> >> >> questions. >> >>> What are these? >>> Globe, base marked WLS in lightning bolts and 2976. Was this related in >> >> >> any >> >>> way to WLS Chicago? >>> >>> Radiotron globe... >>> UX-200. What kind of tube is this and what was it found in? >>> >>> Finally, a Radiotron UX 199. I found this one in my only manual...was >>> this >>> for an early D.C. set? >>> Bruce >>> >> > > The '00 was primarily a detector tube. Not a total vacuum, somewhat > gassy by design. The '00 was filled with an inert nobel gas at very low pressure. It wasn't just a poor vacuum, but was pumped to a high vacuum, then filled with a trace of the inert nobel gas. The purpose of the gas was to enable the tube to conduct at much lower plate voltages. Early DeForest Audions were not pumped to a high vacuum and 'getter' technology did not yet exist. It had been discovered that because of the poor vacuum, the Audion would make a sensitive detector if a critical voltage was used on the filament and plate. Based on the belief that the ionizing gas was responsible for this behavior the '00 tube was designed to mimick the Audion behavior. The '01 tube was a hard vacuum version of the '00 (identical in every other way). > > The '99 was the predecessor (so to speak) to the 01s. Little triode, > very kind to batteries in regard to consumption. Very low gain by later > (late 20s) standards. Actually the '99 was put into production a bit AFTER the '00 and '01 tubes. While the UV200 and UV201 tubes had a 5v 1A filament (later UX200A and UX201A tubes had 5v 250ma filaments) the UV199 and UX199 tubes had 3.0 - 3.3v @ .06-.063A filaments. The UV200 and UV201 tubes had pure tungsten filaments, while the UX200A, UX201A, and '99 tubes had thorated tungsten filaments. The pure tungsten filaments operated with a bright yellow glow, the thorated tungsten filaments only glowed a dull red (and so consumed less power). Thorated tungsten filaments came out a few years after the UV200 and UV201 were introduced. BTW the UV bases had short pins and used the bayonet pin on the base shell to position the tube correctly in the socket. The UX bases had long pins, two of which were 'fatter' than the others to position them in the socket. Early UX bases still had the bayonet pin to be socket compatible with the earlier tubes. Article: 324083 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:38:14 -0400 Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote in news:QRW3f.6715$MG.1945@bignews2.bellsouth.net: > iPods don't require any "special" software to be used as a USB disk. > Copy an MP3 to an Ipod with any file copy program and play it.... -- Larry Article: 324084 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:52:33 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: WLS and other tube questions References: <434feff3$0$14236$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> <8006$434ff856$4232bd67$3953@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <7c70c$435044c2$4232bd67$24472@COQUI.NET> Ken Scharf wrote: > Actually the '99 was put into production a bit AFTER the '00 and '01 > tubes. Really? Back to the books. -Bill Article: 324085 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Caston" Subject: RCA Phono Amplifier Question Message-ID: <_AX3f.27140$0c.1820@tornado.texas.rr.com> Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:56:42 GMT I have been working on a 1950 RCA 45-EY1 phonograph. This is one of the early 45 rpm only amplified phonos. The turntable has been redone and works great with a new ceramic cartridge. I have replaced all 3 tubes in the amp but not the caps. The phono plays great for about 10 minutes... clear sound, loud volume, no hum. Then, the sound begins to get distorted sort of like when the stylus is really dirty. The amp never develops a hum or any other noises, just produces distorted sound. I am sure this is a relatively simple fix, but I am seeking advice as I am really new at this stuff. Should I go ahead and replace all of the caps even though there is no hum or could this be something else? Thanks in advance! Article: 324086 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Message-ID: <0HX3f.328$Xj4.46806@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 00:03:08 GMT I've got radios and every ephemera including DVD now except satellite, DV, HD radio and cable. If I want to play something while walking or on a bike, I will take a boom box or portable radio, of which I have many. I am not a Luddite, I don't have any use for other technologies nor do I wish to spend money on them. I do not feel the need to start the washer with a Dell laptop. Digital masturbation is a sin. "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns96EFC5987A6F0noone@63.223.7.253... > Randy or Sherry Guttery wrote in > news:QRW3f.6715$MG.1945@bignews2.bellsouth.net: > > > iPods don't require any "special" software to be used as a USB disk. > > > > Copy an MP3 to an Ipod with any file copy program and play it.... > > > -- > Larry Article: 324087 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <_AX3f.27140$0c.1820@tornado.texas.rr.com> Subject: Re: RCA Phono Amplifier Question Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 00:28:32 GMT You'd do better to first determine which part is sensitive to continued heat >from a nearby tube. Most likely it's a bad cap that opens as it warms up,maybe more than one. If you can measure them under warm conditions, you might find the bums by process of elimination, and maybe any other components that neeed replacement as they are marginal. One, or twenty? You may have some just fine and a couple clinkers. It's up to your judgement as to whether you replace many, whether you are told to make it as original or as functional regardless by the customer or your conscience if you own it. "Robert Caston" wrote in message news:_AX3f.27140$0c.1820@tornado.texas.rr.com... > I have been working on a 1950 RCA 45-EY1 phonograph. This is one of the > early 45 rpm only amplified phonos. The turntable has been redone and works > great with a new ceramic cartridge. I have replaced all 3 tubes in the amp > but not the caps. The phono plays great for about 10 minutes... clear > sound, loud volume, no hum. Then, the sound begins to get distorted sort of > like when the stylus is really dirty. The amp never develops a hum or any > other noises, just produces distorted sound. I am sure this is a relatively > simple fix, but I am seeking advice as I am really new at this stuff. > Should I go ahead and replace all of the caps even though there is no hum or > could this be something else? Thanks in advance! > > Article: 324088 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "40zeffer" Subject: Re: EARLY VICTOR NSOLE Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 20:34:16 +0200 Message-ID: <1c222688e91c4efc0f9d63b6049d376e@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> References: I posted yesterday but aol is so?"?in slow it took a couple days to get here........the Victor r-32 is in toledo at sylvania @secor.. in nice dry original condition..lacking only a speaker.. Article: 324089 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <_AX3f.27140$0c.1820@tornado.texas.rr.com> <1dj0l1haqhfo60i727pevcsg11f1m2mv99@4ax.com> Subject: Re: RCA Phono Amplifier Question Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 00:40:41 GMT Certain any supply house worth it's name might, unless it gives rats diabetes in Ahnoldville. "norml" wrote in message news:1dj0l1haqhfo60i727pevcsg11f1m2mv99@4ax.com... > Radio Shack (and other suppliers) used to have a spray can designed to > drastically cool off a specific component, thus restoring it to its turn-on > characterstics and identifying the part to replace. Maybe they still do. > > Norm Lehfeldt > > "Robert Caston" wrotf: > > >I have been working on a 1950 RCA 45-EY1 phonograph. This is one of the > >early 45 rpm only amplified phonos. The turntable has been redone and works > >great with a new ceramic cartridge. I have replaced all 3 tubes in the amp > >but not the caps. The phono plays great for about 10 minutes... clear > >sound, loud volume, no hum. Then, the sound begins to get distorted sort of > >like when the stylus is really dirty. The amp never develops a hum or any > >other noises, just produces distorted sound. I am sure this is a relatively > >simple fix, but I am seeking advice as I am really new at this stuff. > >Should I go ahead and replace all of the caps even though there is no hum or > >could this be something else? Thanks in advance! > > Article: 324090 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Attention Pennsylvanians Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 20:48:14 -0400 Message-ID: <11l0kefe3o9o6b6@corp.supernews.com> References: <11l02gph0a3avf5@corp.supernews.com> Thanks! You sold me my first tube tester lo' these seven years ago...... Rick Yerke wrote: > Try Hawley Pa. Article: 324091 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Adam Stouffer Subject: Re: FS - TV-7 D/U ebay item #7553330514 References: <1129158379.001408.139340@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8KKdnaLteOE8NdPeRVn-hg@adelphia.com> <33E3f.497$Hs.462@tornado.socal.rr.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 00:52:30 GMT K3HVG wrote: > Sorry, that's NO reflection... What's visible is an incandescent glow. > But, if one wants it, buy it, they are nice units and repairable. > Haha he revised the auction and removed the picture. Adam Article: 324092 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: WLS and other tube questions References: <434feff3$0$14236$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> <8006$434ff856$4232bd67$3953@COQUI.NET> <7c70c$435044c2$4232bd67$24472@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:08:36 -0400 Bill wrote: > Ken Scharf wrote: > > >> Actually the '99 was put into production a bit AFTER the '00 and '01 >> tubes. > > > Really? > Back to the books. > > -Bill Quoting '70 years of radio tubes and valves' "The first thoriated-filament tubes were the types UV-199 and UV-201A, they were produced by GE late in 1922 but were not available for general sale until well into 1923" "the first receiving tubes marketed by RCA were the types UV200 and UV201, these being first advertised for sale in Dec 1920.." Article: 324093 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:20:08 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: WLS and other tube questions References: <434feff3$0$14236$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> <8006$434ff856$4232bd67$3953@COQUI.NET> <7c70c$435044c2$4232bd67$24472@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: <5e729$4350594a$4232bd3f$2673@COQUI.NET> Ken Scharf wrote: > Bill wrote: > >>Ken Scharf wrote: >> >> >> >>>Actually the '99 was put into production a bit AFTER the '00 and '01 >>>tubes. >> >> >>Really? >>Back to the books. >> >>-Bill > > Quoting '70 years of radio tubes and valves' > > "The first thoriated-filament tubes were the types UV-199 > and UV-201A, they were produced by GE late in 1922 but were > not available for general sale until well into 1923" > > "the first receiving tubes marketed by RCA were the types > UV200 and UV201, these being first advertised for sale > in Dec 1920.." Interesting. Since you have the data handy where do the WD-11 and 12 fall into this timeline? -Bill Article: 324094 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:29:34 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:dipc6n$el8$1@reader2.panix.com... > In Larry writes: > >>"xrongor" wrote in >>news:dip2ia$60gv$1@news3.infoave.net: > >>> and im fundamentally rooting for the long overdue death of binary >>> newsgroups anyway. > >>Don't hold your breath. Usenetserver has just ordered 20 TERAbytes more >>disk storage space, trying to keep up with the load so the retention is 30 >>days. There's 83TB online, today. Binary newsgroups keep expanding, way >>beyond the point where you can download 10% of it at 4Mbps on broadband. > >>It's advantage is anonymity over p2p, which is for the stupids. > > Randy's not talking about peer-to-peer vs. client-server, he's > talking about the propagation model of Usenet. Posts traverse > the backbone over and over and over, whether anyone reads them or > not. This adds a lot of unnecessary traffic. > > A better way is to store the files on a server, thereby having > them clog up the backbone exactly once for each person who wants > them. There are even already handy, well-proven protocols such > as ftp & http to help you out. exactly. im not saying dump usenet altogether, but we dont need to keep patching the current usenet model with bigger faster servers/pipelines and compression/encoding schemes designed to circumvent the fundamental fact that usenet cant efficiently handle large files. mostly due to the way information propigates across usenet. its time for a better one. one that makes the whole concept of a 'binary' newsgroup as it relates to antique radios obsolete. one that doesnt need another layer of decoding. one that doesnt consume many many times the space/bandwidth needed because the information is redundantly stored on hundreds if not thousands of servers. theres already enough hardware out there already. its just not being used effieiently. but like you say. im not holding my breath. i mean the reality is that if you want all that, you dont use usenet. there are plenty of other fourms around without the restrictions usenet has. the one big thing usenet has going for it is inertia. unfortunately this is the exact same thing it has working against it. randy Article: 324095 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: HERE'S THE SPEAKER FOR THAT STROMBERG 240 SOMEONE BOUGHT Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 19:30:42 -0600 Message-ID: References: <11ki75trlfqsa6b@corp.supernews.com> <6f92f.228594$084.30987@attbi_s22> <1128876356.431358.92420@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1129329068.761540.325900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:1129329068.761540.325900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> Maybe its just the way the light reflects, but the spider looks damaged >> to >> me. > > Well, it arrived today. Spider has a couple of little cracks that > caused the light to reflect oddly in the picture, but fortunately it's > not broken. Hooked it up to the set; it seems to work well. I'm > pleased. thats pretty sweet how this all played out. enjoy! randy Article: 324096 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: WLS and other tube questions References: <434feff3$0$14236$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> <8006$434ff856$4232bd67$3953@COQUI.NET> <7c70c$435044c2$4232bd67$24472@COQUI.NET> <5e729$4350594a$4232bd3f$2673@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:32:29 -0400 Bill wrote: > Ken Scharf wrote: > >> Bill wrote: >> >>> Ken Scharf wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> Actually the '99 was put into production a bit AFTER the '00 and '01 >>>> tubes. >>> >>> >>> >>> Really? >>> Back to the books. >>> >>> -Bill >> >> >> Quoting '70 years of radio tubes and valves' >> >> "The first thoriated-filament tubes were the types UV-199 >> and UV-201A, they were produced by GE late in 1922 but were >> not available for general sale until well into 1923" >> >> "the first receiving tubes marketed by RCA were the types >> UV200 and UV201, these being first advertised for sale >> in Dec 1920.." > > > Interesting. Since you have the data handy where do the WD-11 and 12 > fall into this timeline? > > -Bill The WD-11 was introduced in 1922 by Westinghouse, and by RCA in 1923. The WD-12 was introduced by RCA 1923, being a variation of the WD11 (different base). Article: 324097 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: HERE'S THE SPEAKER FOR THAT STROMBERG 240 SOMEONE BOUGHT Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:44:59 -0400 Message-ID: <11l0not1hjv70b3@corp.supernews.com> References: <11ki75trlfqsa6b@corp.supernews.com> <6f92f.228594$084.30987@attbi_s22> <1128876356.431358.92420@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1129329068.761540.325900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I love it when a plan comes together! Congrats, I love my Stromberg 60, 68, 70, and 140L! John H. Article: 324098 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Walton From Hell.... Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:48:33 -0400 Message-ID: <11l0nvilrlfnvdf@corp.supernews.com> References: <1129252439.310440.169480@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <11kv8acddt8ca4a@corp.supernews.com> <9bV3f.15745$fE5.9532@fed1read06> Uncle Peter wrote: > > > A good job for Hagstar or eddie. > > It does have my name all over it. I will snipe it at something reasonable and not look. I laugh at you, silly oak veneer! My heat gun will make short work of your psa backing! John H. Article: 324099 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Walton From Hell.... Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:50:46 -0400 Message-ID: <11l0o3n79r5355a@corp.supernews.com> References: <1129252439.310440.169480@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <11kv8acddt8ca4a@corp.supernews.com> John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > > > next ... look closely at the rear view.. there is too much wood across > the top to pull the framework back together.. like perhaps they replaced > the top and made it too wide? Smash with hammer, trim and reglue. John H. Article: 324100 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1129158379.001408.139340@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8KKdnaLteOE8NdPeRVn-hg@adelphia.com> <33E3f.497$Hs.462@tornado.socal.rr.com> Subject: Re: FS - TV-7 D/U ebay item #7553330514 Message-ID: <_sZ3f.303$5i.205@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 02:04:42 GMT "Adam Stouffer" wrote in message news:ipY3f.626$da1.339@trndny04... > K3HVG wrote: >> Sorry, that's NO reflection... What's visible is an incandescent >> glow. But, if one wants it, buy it, they are nice units and >> repairable. >> > > Haha he revised the auction and removed the picture. > > > Adam It's still there. You need to follow the link in the listing. jim menning Article: 324101 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Name this set Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 20:21:01 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1129341482.385789.275250@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> nice looking radio. i'd swear ive seen one before but i cannot place it. randy "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1129341482.385789.275250@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Fine example of a collector I am. I bought this on Ebay and don't even > know the make. Seen them before. Airline set perhaps? > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6568114044 > Article: 324102 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Topic now OT:USENET Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 02:23:50 GMT So it's AM and code rolled into one,.eh? Your assertion is that usenet is outmoded is partially sighted IMO...it did evolve from local BBS it would seem, into a communications format usable worldwide and not just locally. Imagine our friends in Britain and Italy being able to afford telephone charges to Boston or New York, or anyone here getting to the Netherlands using local bulletin boards? Whew. Yes, the problem IS binaries are bandwidth intensive, and that folks want to use compression method not widely perceived or used by most, then alter whatever standards there were to promote stealth. People use these files are dangerously skirting between public posting and commercial/clandestine and illegal messages, the dopplegangler of Usenet itself. The major uses of binary compression schemes seem to be to distribute copyrighted material counter to the right holders' permisision, or disseminmate adult material or illegal material of minors in graphic poses and obscene acts. While Spam is legally defined as unathorized commercial email (UCE), it is also defined by Usenet regulars as unwanted posts, but that involves thousands of variations in opinions and tastes. A bizzare but true observation is that a newsgroup of dubious nature will complain vociferously of commerical porn pictures being flooded and even threaten to sanction the poster, even if the group handles materials that may be concidered likely not legal or borderline to decency standards...yes SPAM is SPAM anywhere. Usenet carriage is like a cable TV system, in that you petetion a provider to carry groups, and not all will. The goal is to attain unversal carriage, although it's not as hard with larger news providers available nowadays. Newsgroups die occasionally, and often get hijacked by spam posters when litle attention is paid to an empty group. Very few newsgroups die due to lack of interest. some are abandoned for new or other groups that serve them better. One can assume that empty grops that were associated with taboo or illegal issues would leave to find other groups to hide in (not as much scrutiny).Some groups face hijackings from malicious parties, other are swamped by opposing groups that flood the posts with nonsense trying to render it pointless to look in. Usenet is an extension of bulletin boards, and the logical extension of Usenet is to combine it with email in context to create two formats called IM (instant messaging) and IRC "chat" which is distibuted limited 2-party or multi-party communications sending in a network only but allowing many parties to join and interact instantly. The final extension of Usenet was to make it readable through internet portals worldwide. What might "Usenet II" look like, or will it be replaced by some protocol unforeseen now altogether? Whatever is the ":next wave" one cannot deny the huge contributions of Usenet pioneers in universities andcomputer labs everywhere during the 1980s (Usenet is generally credited as having been created in 1980 or 1981 with the earliest recorded messages on Google groups archives dated in 1981). Article: 324103 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129341482.385789.275250@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Name this set Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 02:25:37 GMT Detrola, maybe Silvertone "xrongor" wrote in message news:dipou7$6aa7$1@news3.infoave.net... > nice looking radio. i'd swear ive seen one before but i cannot place it. > > randy > > "RadioGary" wrote in message > news:1129341482.385789.275250@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > > Fine example of a collector I am. I bought this on Ebay and don't even > > know the make. Seen them before. Airline set perhaps? > > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6568114044 > > > > Article: 324104 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:43:53 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? References: Message-ID: xrongor wrote: > > exactly. im not saying dump usenet altogether, but we dont need to keep > patching the current usenet model with bigger faster servers/pipelines and > compression/encoding schemes designed to circumvent the fundamental fact > that usenet cant efficiently handle large files. Well, that implies that somebody has to cough up cash money and set up sites/technology that do it better...with the 'obligation' of doing it for free. 'For free' is why our binary usenet 'bulletin board' methodology is what it is. If it were so awful then people would be happy to pay for a better alternative...many do...and many don't. -Bill Article: 324105 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <1129341482.385789.275250@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Name this set Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:54:21 -0500 Message-ID: <43506f5f$0$3753$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> Either an Airline or a Truetone. Probably made by Wells Gardner. "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1129341482.385789.275250@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Fine example of a collector I am. I bought this on Ebay and don't even > know the make. Seen them before. Airline set perhaps? > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6568114044 > Article: 324106 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:17:34 -0500 Larry wrote: > Copy an MP3 to an Ipod with any file copy program and play it.... Just use ephpod.exe to move the mp3s to the "hidden" folders and manage the play lists on the iPod (as well as a host of other functions). Though iTunes does it slicker... admittedly though, iTunes won't move a song from the iPod back to your PC - of course ephpod will... there is always a "way". Your turn: Play "Desperate Housewives" on your player (no, not the theme song - the TV show (video). The iPod can play 150 hours of video. With the deal Apple just made with ABC (and Disney) - many of these shows are now available (including Desperate Housewives)... Or try this: connect a camera to your player - and download pictures into it and show them (in full color)... Here is a partial list of cameras that the iPod can directly connect to and download from: http://www.apple.com/ipod/compatibility/cameraconnector.html Yeah - real terrible, that proprietary system... Article: 324107 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 21:23:18 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Bill" wrote in message news:ab53$43506cec$4232bd3f$9179@COQUI.NET... > xrongor wrote: > > >> >> exactly. im not saying dump usenet altogether, but we dont need to keep >> patching the current usenet model with bigger faster servers/pipelines >> and compression/encoding schemes designed to circumvent the fundamental >> fact that usenet cant efficiently handle large files. > > Well, that implies that somebody has to cough up cash money and set up > sites/technology that do it better...with the 'obligation' of doing it for > free. > 'For free' is why our binary usenet 'bulletin board' methodology is what > it is. If it were so awful then people would be happy to pay for a better > alternative...many do...and many don't. but thats just it. people are already coughing up cash to support the old system. the cost of providing usenet access to large files has risen to the point where isp's are dropping the service. or maybe its just greed. in any case, now we have to pay 15$ a month to get access to the 'free' usenet. when it was free that was one thing. once we've already gotten to the point where its not free, i think a redesign is in order. it doesnt require any new technology, just a new methodology with current technology applied to it. im not saying its gonna happen, and if it does somebody may have to take one for the team. but ultimately all would benefit. randy Article: 324108 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:49:37 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? References: Message-ID: xrongor wrote: > but thats just it. people are already coughing up cash to support the old > system. the cost of providing usenet access to large files has risen to the > point where isp's are dropping the service. or maybe its just greed. in > any case, now we have to pay 15$ a month to get access to the 'free' usenet. You sound like an AOL subscriber, randy? Cost? Not really. I use two ISPs and have usenet, including binaries, and it doesn't cost extra than my 14.95/18.95 basic ISP service. I also had a third-party usenet provider for $6/mo that I dropped because the nntps that my local people were providing for free have improved dramatically for reliability and retention. I can't imagine who charges - or who would pay - pay $15/mo for Usenet when there are zillions of offerings less than that. > > when it was free that was one thing. once we've already gotten to the point > where its not free, i think a redesign is in order. it doesnt require any > new technology, just a new methodology with current technology applied to > it. Redesigning Usenet is not in the cards because there's no proprietary money at stake.. Other venues are the order of the day and surely may provide fancier technology for those who desire it. And there's little doubt that a huge chunk of the public will cough up the price of three or four 'tarbucks coffees to subscribe to them. Usenet has no marketing branch and I've read numbers that suggest something like 10% of today's net users have any clue that Usenet even exists. But I think you are a bit premature in calling Usenet dead. I suspect that most of the activity that you see are from those that enjoy the service for 'free' and/or appreciate the flexibility of its being butt-simple technology and don't give a hoot about the 90% who are too "cool" to find them. -Bill Article: 324109 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: New growth business -- buying up cathedrals and discarding the Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 20:39:29 -0700 Message-ID: References: <7bc03$434fe6b1$4232bdc7$8975@COQUI.NET> <235fe$434ffafe$4232bd67$14949@COQUI.NET> Phil Nelson wrote: > > I also repeated my plea to contact nearby collector clubs for empty > cabinets, and even bring a truckload of chassis to the next/nearest swap. So > if you see a guy at the next swap meet with a big sign saying, "WILL TRADE > CHASSIS FOR CABINETS," that's him :-) He should learn to hit the swaps. Every once in awhile I will see a seller with a bunch of cathedral cabinets for sale (no guts) at fairly reasonable prices. Doing a number on a complete set is heresy. -Scott Article: 324110 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1129341482.385789.275250@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Name this set Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 04:07:39 GMT "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1129341482.385789.275250@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Fine example of a collector I am. I bought this on Ebay and don't > even > know the make. Seen them before. Airline set perhaps? > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6568114044 > You'll see a lot of different brand name decals on these, but I believe most all of them with that tuning assembly were manufactured by Belmont. jim menning Article: 324111 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 22:39:03 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Bill" wrote in message news:cae59$43507c53$4232bd3f$21108@COQUI.NET... > xrongor wrote: > >> but thats just it. people are already coughing up cash to support the >> old system. the cost of providing usenet access to large files has risen >> to the point where isp's are dropping the service. or maybe its just >> greed. in any case, now we have to pay 15$ a month to get access to the >> 'free' usenet. > > You sound like an AOL subscriber, randy? rofl > > Cost? Not really. I use two ISPs and have usenet, including binaries, > and it doesn't cost extra than my 14.95/18.95 basic ISP service. I also > had a third-party usenet provider for $6/mo that I dropped because the > nntps that my local people were providing for free have improved > dramatically for reliability and retention. > > I can't imagine who charges - or who would pay - pay $15/mo for Usenet > when there are zillions of offerings less than that. ask larry.. randy > >> >> when it was free that was one thing. once we've already gotten to the >> point where its not free, i think a redesign is in order. it doesnt >> require any new technology, just a new methodology with current >> technology applied to it. > > Redesigning Usenet is not in the cards because there's no proprietary > money at stake.. Other venues are the order of the day and surely may > provide fancier technology for those who desire it. And there's little > doubt that a huge chunk of the public will cough up the price of three or > four 'tarbucks coffees to subscribe to them. Usenet has no marketing > branch and I've read numbers that suggest something like 10% of today's > net users have any clue that Usenet even exists. > > But I think you are a bit premature in calling Usenet dead. I suspect > that most of the activity that you see are from those that enjoy the > service for 'free' and/or appreciate the flexibility of its being > butt-simple technology and don't give a hoot about the 90% who are too > "cool" to find them. > > -Bill Article: 324112 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 00:39:43 -0400 Bill wrote in news:cae59$43507c53$4232bd3f$21108@COQUI.NET: > I can't imagine who charges - or who would pay - pay $15/mo for Usenet > when there are zillions of offerings less than that. > (Raising hand into the air waving frantically)....ME! ME! MEEE! I pay $54.95/month for the best cable internet in Charleston, Knology, which includes 6 simultaneous, unlimited Usenetserver.com ports at my full bandwidth. If they took usenet binaries away, I'd simply cancel service and get off the net. Cost isn't a factor. I'd pay double if it came to that. Dialup? How awful! I'd never go back....ever. -- Larry Spoil't rotten on broadband.... Article: 324113 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: RCA Phono Amplifier Question From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <_AX3f.27140$0c.1820@tornado.texas.rr.com> Message-ID: <_M%3f.436318$x96.175097@attbi_s72> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 04:42:34 GMT In article , gizzledgeezer@comcast.net says... > > >It's almost certainly a bad coupling cap. Back then they were usually paper, >and they go bad. You should replace all the coupling caps just on general >principles. > > And the electrolitics while your there.... the price of all the caps in that thing won't come up to the price of a can of that cool it stuff >from Rat Shack John k9uwa Article: 324114 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Walton From Hell.... From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1129252439.310440.169480@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <11kv8acddt8ca4a@corp.supernews.com> <11l0o3n79r5355a@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 04:43:29 GMT In article <11l0o3n79r5355a@corp.supernews.com>, yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net says... > > > > >John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > >> >> >> next ... look closely at the rear view.. there is too much wood across >> the top to pull the framework back together.. like perhaps they replaced >> the top and made it too wide? > >Smash with hammer, trim and reglue. > >John H. > Scares Me!.... have fun with it John Article: 324115 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <11ki75trlfqsa6b@corp.supernews.com> <6f92f.228594$084.30987@attbi_s22> <1128876356.431358.92420@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1129329068.761540.325900@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11l0not1hjv70b3@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: HERE'S THE SPEAKER FOR THAT STROMBERG 240 SOMEONE BOUGHT Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2005 23:49:56 -0500 Message-ID: <43508890_3@newspeer2.tds.net> "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11l0not1hjv70b3@corp.supernews.com... > > I love it when a plan comes together! > > Congrats, I love my Stromberg 60, 68, 70, and 140L! Yeah, that worked out well. Thanks John. I appreciate it. Now that the set is complete (except knobs) it's moved up to second in the queue behind the Silvertone 4587 that I just picked up and is mid-recap. That's going well so I might get to this soon. Hmm, similar 11-tube sets. Maybe I should have a shootout after they're both done. The Stromberg plays well if I hold my finger on the RF tube's top cap but it's silent with a wire antenna. Probably either a dirty bandswitch or antenna coil problems. Haven't bothered to troubleshoot yet. It was funny - Saturday at the swap I picked up a same-sized Magnavox speaker with a 7-pin connector (wrong pinout though) to use as a temp until I found the right speaker. Then, of course, this shows up the very next day. :-) It figures. Well, I have an extra console speaker now. paul. Article: 324116 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 01:36:09 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? References: Message-ID: xrongor wrote: >> >>I can't imagine who charges - or who would pay - pay $15/mo for Usenet >>when there are zillions of offerings less than that. > > > ask larry.. > > randy larry is filtered out at this end and will remain so. -bill Article: 324117 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Saul Rabinowitz Subject: Re: RCA Phono Amplifier Question References: <_AX3f.27140$0c.1820@tornado.texas.rr.com> <1dj0l1haqhfo60i727pevcsg11f1m2mv99@4ax.com> Message-ID: <6g14f.2508$Aw.45687@typhoon.sonic.net> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 06:24:02 GMT norml wrote: > Radio Shack (and other suppliers) used to have a spray can designed to > drastically cool off a specific component, thus restoring it to its turn-on > characterstics and identifying the part to replace. Maybe they still do. > This is called cooling spray, freezing spray, etc., and is commonly found in the lines of all manufacturers of electronic service chemicals. You should be able to find it at any electronics supply store (if you can still find one). Saul Article: 324118 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Sarasota Swap Meet -- still 6 weeks away but we're working hard Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:51:32 GMT I'm bringing this up because we've had a few threads recently about the future of swap meets. Years ago the Florida chapter of the AWA hosted swap meets in a high school in Bradenton. Without getting into details the club folded, and a few of us got together and formed the Sarasota Antique Radio Club, hosting swap meets three times a year in Sarasota. Although these have been fun and friendly meets, attendance has dwindled -- and I believe the one this past August was the worst attended ever with only a few tables taken. There has been talk of the hobby dying, of losing interest, of supplies and radios drying up. I say hogwash! Look at eBay; look at the meets in Kutztown, Michigan, and other places, and just look at the activitiy right here at RAR&P (BTW, I've noticed the bickering has subsided and this NG has been very enjoyable lately -- thank you!). I honestly believe Florida is one of the hobby capitals of the world, with the population of retirees, snowbirds, and tourists we have, not to mention the outstanding ground plane we have for radio interests! So why has the swap meet been so poorly attended? I believe there are two reasons. First, most people don't even know it exists! Second, some who have attended have been disappointed and have not returned. SO -- with lagging performance in such a fertile area, I've taken it on to do something about it! For starters I've simply mentioned what I'm doing to various merchants, and with just word-of-mouth I've already got four new dealers committed! I've written up a new flyer, and yesterday we had a meeting and approved it. During the next few weeks I intend to get these flyers passed out in a BIG way, blanketing them to electronics dealers, radio stations (not for air but for interest of the employees), newspapers, and antique dealers in Sarasota, Bradenton, Venice, and Arcadia. Since many of the new visitors may not be there to buy tube sockets, I'm trying to make this a display as well as a swap meet. The first time we added the word "show" we had about a dozen radios on display; in August there was only one -- mine, which was a Crosley clock/radio that was nice, but hardly interesting. THIS TIME we'll be encouraging radios for display, as a voter's choice trophy will be awarded to the best radio by popular vote. We will also have tube testers available for use by patrons, along with a 50-50 and door prize(s) hopefully with an "s". Bottom line is this: I'm doing my part to kick in the afterburners. With any luck this meet will soon become a far cry from what it has been in the past -- but hopefully continuing with the same fun and fellowship. Stay tuned! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 324119 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Name this set Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 08:24:37 -0600 Message-ID: <23480-43511125-152@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net> References: <8YWdnQCUPa2k7M3eRVn-pw@comcast.com> Belmont Article: 324120 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim McShane" Subject: Ping: Roger Anderson of Vermont Message-ID: <%u84f.386$RI2.2@newssvr23.news.prodigy.net> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 14:37:47 GMT Roger, The email address I have for you is not current. Please drop me a note if you read this. Thanks a lot! Jim McShane Need Tubes? Got a H-K Citation (Pre) Amp? Check http://pages.prodigy.net/jimmcshane Repro knobs for Citation gear in stock! Article: 324121 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: New stuff on Clough-Brengle intro page Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:12:34 GMT I got another Clough-Brengle catalog in the mail yesterday and it has some really good photos that I've never seen before. I've scanned some and added them to the Clough-Brengle intro page, if you're interested check'em out. http://cloughbrengle.homestead.com/index.html 73, Ron http://radioheaven.homestead.com Article: 324122 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Caston" References: <_AX3f.27140$0c.1820@tornado.texas.rr.com> Subject: Re: RCA Phono Amplifier Question... followup question Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:27:06 GMT Thanks for all the good info... I sort of figured I needed to replace all of the paper caps anyway. One more question. The 2 filter caps are in a tube that uses the metal can for the common ground. I can tell the 80 from the 50, so I know where the positive conncections for the replacements need to go. Do I just solder the negatives to one of the metal lugs that hold the old can to the chassis? I understand that I need to by-pass the old caps in the can when I install the new ones, but am a bit unsure about the negative connection. Thanks. "Robert Caston" wrote in message news:_AX3f.27140$0c.1820@tornado.texas.rr.com... >I have been working on a 1950 RCA 45-EY1 phonograph. This is one of the >early 45 rpm only amplified phonos. The turntable has been redone and works >great with a new ceramic cartridge. I have replaced all 3 tubes in the amp >but not the caps. The phono plays great for about 10 minutes... clear >sound, loud volume, no hum. Then, the sound begins to get distorted sort >of like when the stylus is really dirty. The amp never develops a hum or >any other noises, just produces distorted sound. I am sure this is a >relatively simple fix, but I am seeking advice as I am really new at this >stuff. Should I go ahead and replace all of the caps even though there is >no hum or could this be something else? Thanks in advance! > Article: 324123 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: RCA Phono Amplifier Question... followup question From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <_AX3f.27140$0c.1820@tornado.texas.rr.com> Message-ID: <6q94f.437317$x96.391389@attbi_s72> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:40:50 GMT In article , RCASTON@houston.rr.com says... > > >I understand that I need to by-pass the old caps in >the can when I install the new ones, but am a bit unsure about the negative >connection. Thanks. Disconnect the positives from the old can .... leave the negative alone as one end of old capacitor connected will not hurt anything... You have it correct... John k9uwa Article: 324124 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Caston" References: <_AX3f.27140$0c.1820@tornado.texas.rr.com> <6q94f.437317$x96.391389@attbi_s72> Subject: Re: RCA Phono Amplifier Question... followup question Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:53:24 GMT Thanks! "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:6q94f.437317$x96.391389@attbi_s72... > In article , > RCASTON@houston.rr.com > says... >> >> >>I understand that I need to by-pass the old caps in >>the can when I install the new ones, but am a bit unsure about the >>negative >>connection. Thanks. > > Disconnect the positives from the old can .... leave the negative alone > as one end of old capacitor connected will not hurt anything... > You have it correct... > John k9uwa > Article: 324125 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43513356.2792A216@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: cracking glue joints References: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 16:49:57 GMT William Sommerwerck wrote: > > I have two pairs of Advent speakers -- and a freezer much too small. > > I'd like to break the joints on two of them so I can reverse their front > panels to create a mirror pair. > > Suggestions? Dry ice and a barrel? -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 324126 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <1129382179.057108.115200@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: The ultimate boombox? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 17:26:30 GMT wrote in message news:1129382179.057108.115200@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/70s-Style-Morse-AM-FM-8-track-tape-turntable-RADIO-NIC_W0QQitemZ5819556197 > > Terry. > I WANT THIS (but live too far away and the lil lady would kill me if I brought it home) -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 324127 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" Subject: Christmas List: What books to add? Message-ID: <32b4f.46947$Xl2.4865@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 17:31:43 GMT As someone who has absolutely no books about antique radios or tubes, I'd like to add some to my holiday list (my relatives shop early). What books should I have on my list? -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 324128 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <32b4f.46947$Xl2.4865@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Christmas List: What books to add? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 18:17:17 GMT Jon, Without knowing you better, it's difficult to comment as I don't know your interest or skill level. Also bear in mind the the relatives know nothing about radios, and the only thing you can do book-wise is to place your order -- title and author, location it may be purchased from, etc. Recently someone gave me a videotape on how to restore an old radio. I watched it, nearly fell asleep a couple of times, cringed when I saw the sloppy workmanship with wiring, and shouted at the TV set when he explained tube theory incorrectly. Something that I seem to get every Christmas is one or more books about old cars or old radios -- and I enjoy them. These are picture books, showing beautifully restored Corvettes, Thunderbirds, or lesser-known sporty cars. In the case of radios I have a couple of books showing rare catalins, Mickey Mouse sets, and other interesting pieces. These books are interesting regardless of skill level or specific interest, and look good on any coffee table. If you're looking for something else, you can skim through the pages of the AES catalog -- there are always some interesting books available in there. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Jon" wrote in message news:32b4f.46947$Xl2.4865@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > As someone who has absolutely no books about antique radios or tubes, I'd > like to add some to my holiday list (my relatives shop early). What books > should I have on my list? > > > -- > Jon Scaptura > Endicott, NY > > See my antique radios here: > http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios > > > Article: 324129 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: No more FS allowed? From: "Haggis" telus.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 18:34:46 GMT I thought I'd offer a couple tubes and bases to group readers before they go "elsewhere" and have posted 2 messages plus a picture on the binaries. Picture came through right away, but neither of the messages? If there's any interest, drop me a line. If not, my apologies. Haggis. Article: 324130 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: No more FS allowed? Message-ID: <_kc4f.17016$fE5.15484@fed1read06> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:00:20 -0400 I'm looking at that 215 on the binaries, and I swear I'm seeing a 1AD4 submini tube inside of the envelope? Your forsale messages NEVER came through. It is impossible to moderate usenet, so it is either a problem with your ISP or the messages were posted incorrectly? Check your sent mail folder. Pete "Haggis telus.net>" wrote in message news:aZb4f.31757$ir4.2274@edtnps90... > I thought I'd offer a couple tubes and bases to group readers before they go > "elsewhere" and have posted 2 messages plus a picture on the binaries. > Picture came through right away, but neither of the messages? > If there's any interest, drop me a line. If not, my apologies. > > Haggis. Article: 324131 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:07:27 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: No more FS allowed? References: Message-ID: Haggis I thought I'd offer a couple tubes and bases to group readers before they go > "elsewhere" and have posted 2 messages plus a picture on the binaries. > Picture came through right away, but neither of the messages? > If there's any interest, drop me a line. If not, my apologies. > > Haggis. I see one of the text messages (posted at 11:20AM). It simply says "FS:" as the text. Maybe some servers would filter this an invalid posting? -Bill Article: 324132 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: No more FS allowed? From: "Haggis" telus.net> References: <_kc4f.17016$fE5.15484@fed1read06> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 19:39:03 GMT Thanks, Uncle Peter. Probably sent incorrectly, though my newsreader is fairly forgiving. I'm still getting over our anniversary dinner last night :-). I posted better pictures (I hope). Anyway, the tube is original - I don't think I could shoehorn a submini into the tiny "peanut" envelope :-). (I have LOTS of subminis FS cheap, if anyone is interested, BTW). The "innards" of the 215As look kinda like the WDIIs to me. I'm offering "first dibs" to the group the 2 tubes and bases shown on the binaries. Canadian (Northern Electric) version of the WE 215A. All I can tell you is that the tube filaments are not "open" - I have neither the equipment nor the expertise to check them further. The bases are in good shape, with no cracks. These seem to be a little hard to find? Fahenstock clip included! They'll hit "the block" Monday night if there are no takers. Hoping for about half what they're being advetised for on the 'net. Offers? Drop me a line. Cheers! Haggis. Article: 324133 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 12:42:30 -0700 Message-ID: References: xrongor wrote: > and im fundamentally rooting for the long overdue death of binary newsgroups > anyway. Never happen. For a variety of techniacl and legal reasons, usenet has become the de facto standard service for the propagation of Porn and Piracy......The world's largest underground network. As it stands right now, usenet servers are considered merely a "carrier" of traffic on a worldwide network (much like the telcos), and providers have no legal liability or responsibility for anything made available to customers via usenet. During the dotcom boom, I saw many, many of these "premium" usenet services spring up. Almost all of them survived and remain in business to this day. Clearly there is a market for these services. -Scott Article: 324134 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: No more FS allowed? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 16:23:03 -0400 Haggis Post a price. Pete "Haggis telus.net>" wrote in message news:aZb4f.31757$ir4.2274@edtnps90... > I thought I'd offer a couple tubes and bases to group readers before they go > "elsewhere" and have posted 2 messages plus a picture on the binaries. > Picture came through right away, but neither of the messages? > If there's any interest, drop me a line. If not, my apologies. > > Haggis. Article: 324135 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: No more FS allowed? From: "Haggis" telus.net> References: Message-ID: <8ie4f.29276$S4.28301@edtnps84> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:13:40 GMT On 15-Oct-2005, " Uncle Peter" wrote: > Haggis > > Post a price. > > Pete OK, the whole 'kit'n kaboodle' is going on the infamous auction Monday evening, with a starting bid of around $25.00 (which is about half what I see the tubes alone advertised for) and a "BIN" price of $40.00. Plus postage of course, which shouldn't run very high they sure don't weigh much! Haggis. Article: 324136 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129403530.658505.70720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: What's the advantage of a 6087 over a 5Y3GT? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:40:24 GMT I don't know, but I've got a few 5Y3GT variants already, so I guess I'll try them when I get to needing them first. "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1129403530.658505.70720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I know for our purposes, the brown base won't help much. What about > extended life or controlled warm up time? For what application would a > 6087 be used? > Article: 324137 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129252439.310440.169480@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <11kv8acddt8ca4a@corp.supernews.com> <11l0o3n79r5355a@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Walton From Hell.... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:42:39 GMT "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:QI6dnYpqW-lvgMzenZ2dnUVZ_sydnZ2d@sigecom.net... > > "Hagstar" wrote in message > news:11l0o3n79r5355a@corp.supernews.com... > > > Smash with hammer, trim and reglue. > > > > John H. > > > I'm sure you know this technique for breaking glue joints, but for others: > Put cab. in a plastic bag and place in freezer or outside if you live in Vt. > for a good 24 hrs. Take a block of hardwood...I like a piece of > maple...place it in the correct spot and whack it with a two or three pound > hammer. The cold makes any glue joints very brittle and 'usually' will pop > nicely. > > Bruce I reckon a lot of cabinet repairing will get done when Hell freezes over then? ;-) Article: 324138 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Sarasota Swap Meet -- still 6 weeks away but we're working hard Message-ID: <9Ne4f.365$Xj4.54287@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:46:45 GMT Gary! Get some PSAs from the radio stations now! Your group qualifies for the announcements on radio AND TV, and the holidays are the perfect opportunity to find new blood, while they are in a mood to find peace and give and forget the crap that hit all summer. Article: 324139 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <32b4f.46947$Xl2.4865@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Christmas List: What books to add? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:52:39 GMT Mark Oppat doesn't have any more? My last one was a gift of a Sylvania monochrome repair manual (err, Sylvania tubes sales booklet LOL) and thanks again Mr. Estano... "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:mumdnV6N1Luy8czeRVn-uw@sigecom.net... > Alan Douglas' books are on my Xmas list this year. > Bruce > > Article: 324140 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: New stuff on Clough-Brengle intro page Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:53:55 GMT More goodies! Thanks! "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:C%84f.6671$OM.380445@twister.southeast.rr.com... > I got another Clough-Brengle catalog in the mail yesterday > and it has some really good photos that I've never seen before. > I've scanned some and added them to the Clough-Brengle > intro page, if you're interested check'em out. > http://cloughbrengle.homestead.com/index.html > > 73, Ron > http://radioheaven.homestead.com Article: 324141 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129382179.057108.115200@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: The ultimate boombox? Message-ID: <2Xe4f.368$Xj4.53984@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:57:18 GMT I though you were supposed to be able to *carry* a boom box :^) (Jungle Boogie. Jungle Boogieeee) (stop me before I get into the Commodores) wrote in message news:1129382179.057108.115200@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/70s-Style-Morse-AM-FM-8-track-tape-turntable-RADIO-NIC_W0QQitemZ5819556197 > > Terry. > Article: 324142 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <43513356.2792A216@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: cracking glue joints Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:02:28 GMT Ah, gee, Will, add more ice to your Coca-Cola and let me WARM the house with them instead ;-) I've never noticed any difference between the two, I love them either way and I don't build "MTM" centers either. You can always make a KILLING on eBay selling them too (if you just let them be)... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:43513356.2792A216@earthlink.net... > William Sommerwerck wrote: > > > > I have two pairs of Advent speakers -- and a freezer much too small. > > > > I'd like to break the joints on two of them so I can reverse their front > > panels to create a mirror pair. > > > > Suggestions? > > > Dry ice and a barrel? > > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 324143 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <43513356.2792A216@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: cracking glue joints Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:06:19 GMT (OF course, I am happily butchering a single empty Bose 301 [II] w/o grille {would like the frame for the grille especially) to rebuild as a center firing mid/highs up, on its side, as we speak ) "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message news:U%e4f.369$Xj4.54368@monger.newsread.com... > Ah, gee, Will, add more ice to your Coca-Cola and let me WARM the house with > them instead ;-) I've never noticed any difference between the two, I love > them either way and I don't build "MTM" centers either. You can always make > a KILLING on eBay selling them too (if you just let them be)... > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message > news:43513356.2792A216@earthlink.net... > > William Sommerwerck wrote: > > > > > > I have two pairs of Advent speakers -- and a freezer much too small. > > > > > > I'd like to break the joints on two of them so I can reverse their front > > > panels to create a mirror pair. > > > > > > Suggestions? > > > > > > Dry ice and a barrel? > > > > -- > > ? > > > > Michael A. Terrell > > Central Florida > > From Rossie10 Sun Oct 16 12:14:19 EDT 2005 Article: 324144 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: rossie10@optonline.net Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Test Only Reply-To: Rossie10 Message-ID: X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 1 Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 18:11:44 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.193.1.58 X-Complaints-To: abuse@cv.net X-Trace: fe12.lga 1129414305 68.193.1.58 (Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:11:45 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:11:45 MST Organization: Optimum Online Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.glorb.com!hwmnpeer01.lga!hwmedia!hw-filter.lga!fe12.lga.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:324144 Article: 324145 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <8ie4f.29276$S4.28301@edtnps84> Subject: Re: No more FS allowed? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 18:13:35 -0400 "Haggis telus.net>" wrote in message news:8ie4f.29276$S4.28301@edtnps84... > > On 15-Oct-2005, " Uncle Peter" wrote: > > > Haggis > > > > Post a price. > > > > Pete > > OK, the whole 'kit'n kaboodle' is going on the infamous auction Monday > evening, with a starting bid of around $25.00 (which is about half what I > see the tubes alone advertised for) and a "BIN" price of $40.00. Plus > postage of course, which shouldn't run very high they sure don't weigh much! > > Haggis. Guess I misunderstood. I thought you were going to post a price here before auctioning? Oh well. pete Article: 324146 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" Subject: 5S127 schematic--need a good jpg. Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 18:15:07 -0400 I need a good scan of the 5S127 Zenith schematic in jpg form: should be public domain because I will edit it and it will be published in a magazine. Pete From Rossie10 Sun Oct 16 12:14:20 EDT 2005 Article: 324147 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: rossie10@optonline.net Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: TEST Reply-To: Rossie10 Message-ID: <1rv2l1l59u802f3b1qdd3bseb0dkhu1mbh@4ax.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 1 Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 18:15:10 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.193.1.58 X-Complaints-To: abuse@cv.net X-Trace: fe12.lga 1129414511 68.193.1.58 (Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:15:11 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:15:11 MST Organization: Optimum Online Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.glorb.com!hwmnpeer01.lga!hwmedia!hw-filter.lga!fe12.lga.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:324147 From Rossie10 Sun Oct 16 12:14:20 EDT 2005 Article: 324148 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: rossie10@optonline.net Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: TEST.... Reply-To: Rossie10 Message-ID: X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 2.0/32.652 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 1 Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 18:16:23 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.193.1.58 X-Complaints-To: abuse@cv.net X-Trace: fe12.lga 1129414584 68.193.1.58 (Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:16:24 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 15:16:24 MST Organization: Optimum Online Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.glorb.com!hwmnpeer01.lga!hwmedia!hw-filter.lga!fe12.lga.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:324148 Article: 324149 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? From: "xrongor" Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 16:17:46 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:dirm3803bl@news1.newsguy.com... > xrongor wrote: > >> and im fundamentally rooting for the long overdue death of binary >> newsgroups anyway. > > Never happen. For a variety of techniacl and legal reasons, usenet has > become the de facto standard service for the propagation of Porn and > Piracy......The world's largest underground network. As it stands right > now, usenet servers are considered merely a "carrier" of traffic on a > worldwide network (much like the telcos), and providers have no legal > liability or responsibility for anything made available to customers via > usenet. > > During the dotcom boom, I saw many, many of these "premium" usenet > services spring up. Almost all of them survived and remain in business to > this day. Clearly there is a market for these services. ask a 16 year old kid where he gets his porn and does his piracy. its not usenet. only the dinosaurs (me included) still roam usenet. randy Article: 324150 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Rossie10 Subject: TEST Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 18:22:23 -0400 Article: 324151 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 18:22:21 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: 5S127 schematic--need a good jpg. References: Message-ID: Uncle Peter wrote: > I need a good scan of the 5S127 Zenith schematic in jpg form: > > should be public domain > because I will edit it and it will be published in a magazine. > > Pete > > > Check ur mailbox. One is on the way. -Bill Article: 324152 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Rossie10 Subject: TESTTTTTT>>> Message-ID: <9903l1t477u9maeelm55o0c30nj6oosnas@4ax.com> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 18:22:42 -0400 Article: 324153 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> Subject: OT: SS-need to reproduce or find missing switch knob... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:29:54 GMT Style matching flip switches on this 1974 very early Technics cassette deck (for the Dolby NR switch) See http://www.vintagetechnics.com/tapedecks/rs676us.htm for example. While a few other decks had the same type of cassette loading mechanism, only this and http://www.vintagetechnics.com/tapedecks/rs677us.htm seem to share these knobs. PS finding the remote control shown with model RS-677 US would be great also as the 676 seems to have the port for optional use of it. (single)sideband AT&T Ksrvinet 1380 The Cruise, Dot /Records/ &COM**** Get me a date, get me off the phone to the radio station and don't use the turntable Now you have no reason to do the Times crossword Article: 324154 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Test Only Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:32:09 GMT You are getting through. Usually, if you can succesfully post to any other group or one in the alt. test hierarchy, your browser is not at fault. Please post a message relating to the group if you wish. Thanks! wrote in message news:pkv2l11dfaragjlu4cc0nmqn5ieh8q2bkk@4ax.com... > Article: 324155 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:33:23 GMT Gee, Randy don't admit to anything BEFORE you seek witness protection ;-PPP "xrongor" wrote in message news:dirv6b$7g4o$1@news3.infoave.net... > > "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message > news:dirm3803bl@news1.newsguy.com... > > xrongor wrote: > > > >> and im fundamentally rooting for the long overdue death of binary > >> newsgroups anyway. > > > > Never happen. For a variety of techniacl and legal reasons, usenet has > > become the de facto standard service for the propagation of Porn and > > Piracy......The world's largest underground network. As it stands right > > now, usenet servers are considered merely a "carrier" of traffic on a > > worldwide network (much like the telcos), and providers have no legal > > liability or responsibility for anything made available to customers via > > usenet. > > > > During the dotcom boom, I saw many, many of these "premium" usenet > > services spring up. Almost all of them survived and remain in business to > > this day. Clearly there is a market for these services. > > ask a 16 year old kid where he gets his porn and does his piracy. its not > usenet. only the dinosaurs (me included) still roam usenet. > > randy > > Article: 324156 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: No more FS allowed? From: "Haggis" telus.net> References: <8ie4f.29276$S4.28301@edtnps84> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:38:26 GMT On 15-Oct-2005, " Uncle Peter" wrote: > Guess I misunderstood. I thought you were going to post a price here > before > auctioning? Oh well. > > pete around $25.00 (which is about half what I see the tubes alone advertised for) and a "BIN" price of $40.00. Plus postage of course, I thought I had (above)..................as I mentioned, they don't get listed for another 2 days or so. Haggis. Article: 324157 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: New stuff on Clough-Brengle intro page References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:39:07 GMT Steven Dinius_ wrote: > More goodies! Thanks! > And still more to come, I've got a new (to me) Clough-Brengle tube tester I need to take photos of. Soon, soon. Ron Article: 324158 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: New stuff on Clough-Brengle intro page Message-ID: <8Bf4f.374$Xj4.54590@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:42:12 GMT I need to get a new camera and show you guys my little Packard Bell. It's all I've got that's "new" right now, but it's pretty cool. "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:fyf4f.7482$Sg2.572894@twister.southeast.rr.com... > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > More goodies! Thanks! > > > > And still more to come, I've got a new (to me) > Clough-Brengle tube tester I need to take photos of. > Soon, soon. > > Ron Article: 324159 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> Subject: No camera? Well this is close enough... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:48:47 GMT Article: 324160 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Sarasota Swap Meet -- still 6 weeks away but we're working hard References: <9Ne4f.365$Xj4.54287@monger.newsread.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:50:10 GMT Gary, send notices to ARC, AWA and post them anywhere you can on the web. If you're really serious, contact AWA sect. and ask for their mailing list for Fla. They gave them to us for many years before we got our own. I looked at the Charlotte Conference registration list and it only shows about 25 or 30 attendees from Fla. since about 2000. I agree that there's got to be lots of old timers there now. Also find one of your local group that's a ham and have them talk it up on the local repeaters. Unless you have a good connection "inside" I doubt you'll get much in the way of PSAs from local radio stations. They know you're just looking for free advertising... We've found that the way for a meet to grow is to be consistent, in the same location every year for one. It really needs to be more than just a flea market, some displays, equipment contest, forums, etc. Easy to find, on the interstate at a hotel with ample parking is best. Advertise, advertise, advertise... Ron Lawrence, CC-AWA President and Conference Chairman http://cc-awa.org Article: 324161 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: No camera? Well this is close enough... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:51:09 GMT Not white in a Buffalo NY snowstorm : ) I meant: http://antiqueradios.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Packard-Bell&id=Packard_Bell_5DB minus the top and side geegaws and marbled brown. That's my Packard Bell set. It's very small. "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message news:jHf4f.376$Xj4.54609@monger.newsread.com... > > Article: 324162 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: The ultimate boombox? Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 17:09:23 -0600 Message-ID: References: <1129382179.057108.115200@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> wrote in message news:1129382179.057108.115200@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > http://cgi.ebay.com/70s-Style-Morse-AM-FM-8-track-tape-turntable-RADIO-NIC_W0QQitemZ5819556197 > > Terry. > I remember those from the '70's. They were supposed to the naswer for those people wanting a jukebox at home...with added bells and whistles. I saw one here at an auction a while back. Nobody would bid on it...myself included. Ben Article: 324163 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: A Good Clough-Brengle day Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 18:28:22 -0500 "Ron in Radio Heaven" > Let's talk about "luck" for a minute. > The Clough-Brengle transmitter that I just got. > I tried really hard 5 years ago to win it on ebay. > I was unemployed at the time. I convinced my wife > that I HAD to have this transmitter, I would sale something > from the collection to put the money back in the bank > after I won it. At the time I only had a really slow dialup > connection and because of that I got beat out in the last few > seconds by someone else. I was so bummed out I couldn't > hardly stand it. I contacted the winner and told him that > if he ever wanted to sell it to let me know. > About a week after the sale ended I got an email from the > winner telling me that the seller had shipped it UPS and that > it was "severely" damaged in shipment. > Now I was bummed out even more. > Fast forward to about 5 weeks ago. I get an email from a good > friend telling me someone he knows has a Clough-Brengle > model 87 for sale. Now for the last couple of months I've been > doing a lot of research and writing on Clough-Brengle > test equipment. They had pieces of test equipment with > model numbers 88 & 89, so the model 87 didn't ring the > bell as it should have. > I replied to my friend that I would be interested in hearing > about it, thinking that it was just another C-B sig. gen. or something. > His friend sent me an email a few days later, and when I scrolled > down to see the attached photo I almost dropped my teeth, > IT'S A TRANSMITTER!!!! > I first thought, "my god there's another one". > When I went back and reread his message and saw where it was located > and then did a little closer looking, and comparing it to the photos > I had saved from the ebay sale I discovered that it was the same > transmitter. > I was to find out that after it was damaged the new owner never > got around to doing anything with it and was ready to let it go. > He didn't remember me or that I was interested in buying. > I expect that had I not found out about it in time it would have > found it's self sitting on a flea market table at a Penn. area > hamfest. > So here's the luck, had it not been damaged, I doubt if he would > have sold it, he also sold it to me for a good bit less than he paid for > it on ebay since it was damaged. > And a little more luck, the damage wasn't all that sever. > I already have several of the damaged parts coming to me > from the friend that told me about it being for sale. > I'm sure I'll be able to successfully repair or replace any > of the damaged parts. > > Yep, Luck is what it was alright. > > 73, Ron > http://radioheaven.homestead.com/CB87.html That's pretty cool Ron. I'm very happy for you. Let me know when you get it fired up. I'll try to QSL ya. -- 73 and good DX. B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 324164 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jon" References: <32b4f.46947$Xl2.4865@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Christmas List: What books to add? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:31:46 GMT "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:NIb4f.1131$fc7.563@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Jon, > > Without knowing you better, it's difficult to comment as I don't know your > interest or skill level. Also bear in mind the the relatives know nothing > about radios, and the only thing you can do book-wise is to place your > order -- title and author, location it may be purchased from, etc. > I'm a broadcast engineer, and began repairing radios as a hobby about 3 years ago. I now have a dozen or so radio in my collection, most of which I've repaired / restored to operation. I'm looking for what other people consider to be their favorite books, and I'll give the list of titles and authors to my family so that they get the right books. -- Jon Scaptura Endicott, NY See my antique radios here: http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios Article: 324165 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Test Only Message-ID: References: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:04:33 GMT In my experience, such test messages are often the work of spammers testing their wonderful mass-posting software. Owning and distributing such software, would, in a perfect world, be a capital offence. Gordon Richmond Article: 324166 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43519B65.E768E68@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: The ultimate boombox? References: <1129382179.057108.115200@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:13:31 GMT Benjamaniac wrote: > > I remember those from the '70's. They were supposed to the naswer for > those people wanting a jukebox at home...with added bells and whistles. I > saw one here at an auction a while back. Nobody would bid on it...myself > included. > Ben > Their electronics was the worst crap on the market. A furniture store was selling that crap and we made the mistake of agreeing to be set up for warranty work on Morse/Electrophonic. 90% had problems when they were unpacked, and the crappy amplifiers had the same metal cased transistors used in cheap battery powered pocket radios. They were advertised as being a couple hundred watts, which was a lot higher that the power it consumed. They used the cheap BSR Record changers with plastic turntables. We could buy the same turntable for about $6, and the 8 track mechanism was about $8 wholesale from a couple importers. It was also used in some of the cheapest car stereos of that era, as well. They kept the crappy 12V DC motor, while other companies used the AC motor version. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 324167 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: WLS and other tube questions References: <434feff3$0$14236$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> <8006$434ff856$4232bd67$3953@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 20:37:05 -0400 Bruce Mercer wrote: >>>The '00 was primarily a detector tube. Not a total vacuum, somewhat >>>gassy by design. >> >>The '00 was filled with an inert nobel gas at very low pressure. >>It wasn't just a poor vacuum, but was pumped to a high vacuum, then >>filled with a trace of the inert nobel gas. The purpose of the gas >>was to enable the tube to conduct at much lower plate voltages. >>Early DeForest Audions were not pumped to a high vacuum and 'getter' >>technology did not yet exist. It had been discovered that because >>of the poor vacuum, the Audion would make a sensitive detector if >>a critical voltage was used on the filament and plate. Based on >>the belief that the ionizing gas was responsible for this behavior >>the '00 tube was designed to mimick the Audion behavior. The '01 tube >>was a hard vacuum version of the '00 (identical in every other way). >> >> >>>The '99 was the predecessor (so to speak) to the 01s. Little triode, >>>very kind to batteries in regard to consumption. Very low gain by later >>>(late 20s) standards. >> >>Actually the '99 was put into production a bit AFTER the '00 and '01 >>tubes. While the UV200 and UV201 tubes had a 5v 1A filament (later >>UX200A and UX201A tubes had 5v 250ma filaments) the UV199 and UX199 >>tubes had 3.0 - 3.3v @ .06-.063A filaments. The UV200 and UV201 tubes >>had pure tungsten filaments, while the UX200A, UX201A, and '99 tubes >>had thorated tungsten filaments. The pure tungsten filaments operated >>with a bright yellow glow, the thorated tungsten filaments only glowed >>a dull red (and so consumed less power). Thorated tungsten filaments >>came out a few years after the UV200 and UV201 were introduced. >> >>BTW the UV bases had short pins and used the bayonet pin on the base >>shell to position the tube correctly in the socket. The UX bases had >>long pins, two of which were 'fatter' than the others to position them >>in the socket. Early UX bases still had the bayonet pin to be >>socket compatible with the earlier tubes. > > > Thanks Ken, > I've had most of these tubes for close to 50 years now. There is one more I > am > curious about. It's a Volutron, pic on binaries. I'm pretty sure it's an > 01-A but would > like to know the history of this type of tube. The envelope is the only one > like it I've > run across. I've seen pics of them in Daven like amplifiers. I found this > tube along with > a bunch of DeForest Audions is a scrap yard when I was about 10 years old. > The Audions > went to ebay a few years ago to help finance other radio/phonographs. I > kept this one > just to keep.... > > Bruce > > The Volutron is mentioned in the book "Saga of the vacuum tube". Not too much data, but it was made by an independant US company in 1929, the Munder Electrical Co, 97 Orleans St., springfield, MA. Also made under the name "VOX". There was also a Voltron tube, made in 1926 by the MacLaren Mfg. Co. 26 Park Place, New York. Your picture looks like an 01A (hard to tell through the silver getter). The tubular bulb is interresting for the date, but not all independants used the spherical bulbs. Article: 324168 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: 5S127 schematic--need a good jpg. Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 17:20:24 -0700 Message-ID: References: Bill wrote: > Uncle Peter wrote: > >> I need a good scan of the 5S127 Zenith schematic in jpg form: >> >> should be public domain >> because I will edit it and it will be published in a magazine. >> >> Pete >> >> >> > Check ur mailbox. One is on the way. Check the binaries also...I have posted one there as well -Scott Article: 324169 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <32b4f.46947$Xl2.4865@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Christmas List: What books to add? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:01:16 GMT Two suggestions for books on tubes, both are favorites of mine: "Saga of the Vacuum Tube" by Gerald Tyne, a classic work from the late 40's covering the early history of tubes up to about 1930 "Tube Lore" by Ludwell Sibley, an encyclopedic reference book with brief descriptions of thousands of tubes from about 1920 on. -- Mike Schultz "Jon" wrote in message news:32b4f.46947$Xl2.4865@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > As someone who has absolutely no books about antique radios or tubes, I'd > like to add some to my holiday list (my relatives shop early). What books > should I have on my list? > > > -- > Jon Scaptura > Endicott, NY > > See my antique radios here: > http://www.scaptura.com/radio/gallery/Antique_radios > > > Article: 324170 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129382179.057108.115200@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43519B65.E768E68@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: The ultimate boombox? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:50:08 GMT I saw one with the 1/4" input labelled "MIC/GUITAR". I shoulda bought the Magnavox Astrosonic next to it but it wasn't tubed and I didn't think it would fit in the car at the time (ALMOST)... "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:43519B65.E768E68@earthlink.net... > Benjamaniac wrote: > > > > I remember those from the '70's. They were supposed to the naswer for > > those people wanting a jukebox at home...with added bells and whistles. I > > saw one here at an auction a while back. Nobody would bid on it...myself > > included. > > Ben > > > > Their electronics was the worst crap on the market. A furniture > store was selling that crap and we made the mistake of agreeing to be > set up for warranty work on Morse/Electrophonic. 90% had problems when > they were unpacked, and the crappy amplifiers had the same metal cased > transistors used in cheap battery powered pocket radios. They were > advertised as being a couple hundred watts, which was a lot higher that > the power it consumed. They used the cheap BSR Record changers with > plastic turntables. We could buy the same turntable for about $6, and > the 8 track mechanism was about $8 wholesale from a couple importers. > It was also used in some of the cheapest car stereos of that era, as > well. They kept the crappy 12V DC motor, while other companies used the > AC motor version. > > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 324171 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: Oh god, not THIS again........ References: <1129005028.459877.66740@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:51:16 -0400 Steven Dinius_ wrote: > "rayindesmoines" wrote in message > news:1129005028.459877.66740@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > >>It's doomed to failure. Allentown PA just pulled the plug on their >>system and it was one of the biggest ones. I think in in Virginia also >>gave up. Cedar Rapids Iowa was a disaster. >> >>Too many problems with BPL interfering with licensed radio services, >>and vise versa. Also, it is an old technology and there are better >>things out there in the wi-fi arena. > > > Yes, but it's a lot like alchemy--trying to turn Cu into Au. > > More like turning Al into Au Article: 324172 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: No more FS allowed? From: "Haggis" telus.net> References: <8ie4f.29276$S4.28301@edtnps84> Message-ID: <4ni4f.32971$ir4.29058@edtnps90> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:52:00 GMT Thanks to all who replied - the tubes and bases are now spoken for. Haggis. Article: 324173 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Test Only Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:52:56 GMT Yeah I know that, but if you don't respond like that they get the idea it's okay to invade. I had to intervene a few times on the binaries with a guy I knew posted really bad porn, and the binaries weren't really active then. That when they nibble there. Protect your "turf". "Gordon Richmond" wrote in message news:h563l1djft83pode9s1ar0njg2hi4v1nm8@4ax.com... > In my experience, such test messages are often the work of spammers > testing their wonderful mass-posting software. > > Owning and distributing such software, would, in a perfect world, be a > capital offence. > > Gordon Richmond Article: 324174 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <0Yg4f.4427$1A1.1627@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: Test Only Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:53:50 GMT Yeah, that's what I had thought (see other post). "jim menning" wrote in message news:0Yg4f.4427$1A1.1627@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Gordon Richmond" wrote in message > news:h563l1djft83pode9s1ar0njg2hi4v1nm8@4ax.com... > > In my experience, such test messages are often the work of spammers > > testing their wonderful mass-posting software. > > > > Owning and distributing such software, would, in a perfect world, be > > a > > capital offence. > > > > Gordon Richmond > > Maybe not mass-posting spam, but preparing for a bunch of eBay posts. > His history shows a test post followed by a bunch of FA ads in the > radio swap group in the past. > > http://groups.google.com/groups?q=rossie10@optonline.net&start=10&scoring=d&hl=en& > > jim menning > > Article: 324175 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <434feff3$0$14236$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> <8006$434ff856$4232bd67$3953@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: WLS and other tube questions Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 01:57:04 GMT Of what relation could this VOX be to the famed amplifier manufacturer of Beatles lore, or does it have any relation to any other companies we might know? "Ken Scharf" wrote in message news:bfh4f.19235$Yl.16471@bignews4.bellsouth.net... > Bruce Mercer wrote: > >>>The '00 was primarily a detector tube. Not a total vacuum, somewhat > >>>gassy by design. > >> > >>The '00 was filled with an inert nobel gas at very low pressure. > >>It wasn't just a poor vacuum, but was pumped to a high vacuum, then > >>filled with a trace of the inert nobel gas. The purpose of the gas > >>was to enable the tube to conduct at much lower plate voltages. > >>Early DeForest Audions were not pumped to a high vacuum and 'getter' > >>technology did not yet exist. It had been discovered that because > >>of the poor vacuum, the Audion would make a sensitive detector if > >>a critical voltage was used on the filament and plate. Based on > >>the belief that the ionizing gas was responsible for this behavior > >>the '00 tube was designed to mimick the Audion behavior. The '01 tube > >>was a hard vacuum version of the '00 (identical in every other way). > >> > >> > >>>The '99 was the predecessor (so to speak) to the 01s. Little triode, > >>>very kind to batteries in regard to consumption. Very low gain by later > >>>(late 20s) standards. > >> > >>Actually the '99 was put into production a bit AFTER the '00 and '01 > >>tubes. While the UV200 and UV201 tubes had a 5v 1A filament (later > >>UX200A and UX201A tubes had 5v 250ma filaments) the UV199 and UX199 > >>tubes had 3.0 - 3.3v @ .06-.063A filaments. The UV200 and UV201 tubes > >>had pure tungsten filaments, while the UX200A, UX201A, and '99 tubes > >>had thorated tungsten filaments. The pure tungsten filaments operated > >>with a bright yellow glow, the thorated tungsten filaments only glowed > >>a dull red (and so consumed less power). Thorated tungsten filaments > >>came out a few years after the UV200 and UV201 were introduced. > >> > >>BTW the UV bases had short pins and used the bayonet pin on the base > >>shell to position the tube correctly in the socket. The UX bases had > >>long pins, two of which were 'fatter' than the others to position them > >>in the socket. Early UX bases still had the bayonet pin to be > >>socket compatible with the earlier tubes. > > > > > > Thanks Ken, > > I've had most of these tubes for close to 50 years now. There is one more I > > am > > curious about. It's a Volutron, pic on binaries. I'm pretty sure it's an > > 01-A but would > > like to know the history of this type of tube. The envelope is the only one > > like it I've > > run across. I've seen pics of them in Daven like amplifiers. I found this > > tube along with > > a bunch of DeForest Audions is a scrap yard when I was about 10 years old. > > The Audions > > went to ebay a few years ago to help finance other radio/phonographs. I > > kept this one > > just to keep.... > > > > Bruce > > > > > The Volutron is mentioned in the book "Saga of the vacuum tube". > Not too much data, but it was made by an independant US company > in 1929, the Munder Electrical Co, 97 Orleans St., springfield, MA. > Also made under the name "VOX". There was also a Voltron tube, > made in 1926 by the MacLaren Mfg. Co. 26 Park Place, New York. > > Your picture looks like an 01A (hard to tell through the silver > getter). The tubular bulb is interresting for the date, but > not all independants used the spherical bulbs. Article: 324176 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <43513356.2792A216@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: cracking glue joints Message-ID: <%wi4f.384$Xj4.55891@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:02:35 GMT Bolly at AK stacks Pioneer HPM-100s (symmetrical), but other than being pretty it doesn't matter at most any volume. What does matter is getting about 50 pairs ap to peak efficiency so that the ports are moving enough air to cool your house. If you like 'em symmetrical, it never hurts to build yuor own : ) "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:d46dnVcZfMb_FszeRVn-ug@comcast.com... > > Ah, gee, Will, add more ice to your Coca-Cola and let me WARM > > the house with them instead ;-) I've never noticed any difference > > between the two, I love them either way and I don't build "MTM" > > centers either. You can always make a KILLING on eBay selling > > them too (if you just let them be)... > > I want to see what stacked Advents sounded like, with the drivers properly > lined up. I also intend to upgrade the crossover with air-core inductors and > Mylar caps. > > Article: 324177 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <43513356.2792A216@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: cracking glue joints Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:06:46 GMT PS I upgraded my homebrew with a JVC quad from 1974. XOs are cool but most are already good enough that if you don't need to replace a fried component, just find better speakers to plug in. Yeah I know you wrote stereo gear articles, but after 50 years of stereo, isn't there enough shit to mix and match now? Sure is fun, too. Go for it. "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message news:d46dnVcZfMb_FszeRVn-ug@comcast.com... > > Ah, gee, Will, add more ice to your Coca-Cola and let me WARM > > the house with them instead ;-) I've never noticed any difference > > between the two, I love them either way and I don't build "MTM" > > centers either. You can always make a KILLING on eBay selling > > them too (if you just let them be)... > > I want to see what stacked Advents sounded like, with the drivers properly > lined up. I also intend to upgrade the crossover with air-core inductors and > Mylar caps. > > Article: 324178 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129005028.459877.66740@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Oh god, not THIS again........ Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:08:27 GMT "Ken Scharf" wrote in message news:pki4f.13509$MG.1708@bignews2.bellsouth.net... > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > "rayindesmoines" wrote in message > > news:1129005028.459877.66740@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > > > >>It's doomed to failure. Allentown PA just pulled the plug on their > >>system and it was one of the biggest ones. I think in in Virginia also > >>gave up. Cedar Rapids Iowa was a disaster. > >> > >>Too many problems with BPL interfering with licensed radio services, > >>and vise versa. Also, it is an old technology and there are better > >>things out there in the wi-fi arena. > > > > > > Yes, but it's a lot like alchemy--trying to turn Cu into Au. > > > > > More like turning Al into Au finally somebody got that Article: 324179 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Radio/TV Shop Contents Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 20:11:24 -0600 Message-ID: This coming up Thursday, my son and I are going to a little town about 80 miles from here to look at buying the entire contents of a small closed up radio/TV repair shop that was in business from the '40's to the late '70's. Wish me luck on this one :))) Ben Article: 324180 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: tbavis@_remove_this_rochester.rr.com (Tom Bavis) Subject: Re: Need schematics for Heathkit A-7 Message-ID: <4351b747.45835656@news-server> References: <1129424105.680681.117040@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 02:16:16 GMT On 15 Oct 2005 17:55:05 -0700, "Jiri Placek" wrote: >that followed me home today. Some tubes are missing but it appears to >be a later version with 12A6 push-pull. I cannot find schematics on he >web and I would appreciate if someone could please scan it and emialed >it to me at radiotubes at fast dot net. Thanks. > >Jiri Placek >Boyertown, PA=CB=87 A7B,C, and E schematics on my web page: http://www.audiophool.cjb.net/Audio.html Article: 324181 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4351BD52.4120081B@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: Re: Radio/TV Shop Contents References: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:39:14 -0400 How I wish that was me... Let us know the outcome! Good luck, Sal benjamaniac wrote: > This coming up Thursday, my son and I are going to a little town about 80 > miles from here to look at buying the entire contents of a small closed up > radio/TV repair shop that was in business from the '40's to the late '70's. > Wish me luck on this one :))) > Ben Article: 324182 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Radio/TV Shop Contents Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 03:11:37 GMT If you find some 12" or 19" trinitron tubes or that RCA I need, holler :) "benjamaniac" wrote in message news:discs7$7ljm$1@news3.infoave.net... > This coming up Thursday, my son and I are going to a little town about 80 > miles from here to look at buying the entire contents of a small closed up > radio/TV repair shop that was in business from the '40's to the late '70's. > Wish me luck on this one :))) > Ben > > Article: 324183 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129382179.057108.115200@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43519B65.E768E68@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: The ultimate boombox? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 03:12:35 GMT The Spanish FM in Weiser used to dim it for me, to the beat "Bill Cohn" wrote in message news:h_KdnaFaXcKAJczeRVn-vw@comcast.com... > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > Benjamaniac wrote: > > > >> I remember those from the '70's. They were supposed to the naswer for > >>those people wanting a jukebox at home...with added bells and whistles. I > >>saw one here at an auction a while back. Nobody would bid on it...myself > >>included. > >> Ben > >> > > > > > > Their electronics was the worst crap on the market. A furniture > > store was selling that crap and we made the mistake of agreeing to be > > set up for warranty work on Morse/Electrophonic. 90% had problems when > > they were unpacked, and the crappy amplifiers had the same metal cased > > transistors used in cheap battery powered pocket radios. They were > > advertised as being a couple hundred watts, which was a lot higher that > > the power it consumed. They used the cheap BSR Record changers with > > plastic turntables. We could buy the same turntable for about $6, and > > the 8 track mechanism was about $8 wholesale from a couple importers. > > It was also used in some of the cheapest car stereos of that era, as > > well. They kept the crappy 12V DC motor, while other companies used the > > AC motor version. > > > I worked part time in a shop that was the warranty station for Morse > Electrophonic in the late 70s and I have to agree with you. This stuff > does not deserve to be collected or preserved. The electronics were an > embarrassment. The power supply was so poor the pilot lights would dim > if you turned the volume up. > > Bill Cohn Article: 324184 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Radio/TV Shop Contents Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 03:22:13 GMT I still need a signal generator of decent quality, not even asking about an o-scope, if you end up with a spare. Email me when you get through it. "benjamaniac" wrote in message news:discs7$7ljm$1@news3.infoave.net... > This coming up Thursday, my son and I are going to a little town about 80 > miles from here to look at buying the entire contents of a small closed up > radio/TV repair shop that was in business from the '40's to the late '70's. > Wish me luck on this one :))) > Ben > > Article: 324185 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1129403530.658505.70720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: What's the advantage of a 6087 over a 5Y3GT? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:24:41 -0400 The extended warmup is a good idea. But, if subbing the tube make sure the input capacitor and field coil are connected to pin 8 (cathode) and not pin 2. Otherwise there will a lot of extra hum voltage to deal with in the PS filtering. Pete "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1129403530.658505.70720@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I know for our purposes, the brown base won't help much. What about > extended life or controlled warm up time? For what application would a > 6087 be used? > Article: 324186 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Radio/TV Shop Contents Message-ID: <_Jj4f.390$Xj4.56507@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 03:24:42 GMT OH yeah, good luck "benjamaniac" wrote in message news:discs7$7ljm$1@news3.infoave.net... > This coming up Thursday, my son and I are going to a little town about 80 > miles from here to look at buying the entire contents of a small closed up > radio/TV repair shop that was in business from the '40's to the late '70's. > Wish me luck on this one :))) > Ben > > Article: 324187 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: et472@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Michael Black) Subject: Re: Christmas List: What books to add? Date: 16 Oct 2005 03:30:45 GMT Message-ID: References: <32b4f.46947$Xl2.4865@twister.nyroc.rr.com> "Jon" (jon@NOscapturaSPAM.com) writes: > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:NIb4f.1131$fc7.563@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> Jon, >> >> Without knowing you better, it's difficult to comment as I don't know your >> interest or skill level. Also bear in mind the the relatives know nothing >> about radios, and the only thing you can do book-wise is to place your >> order -- title and author, location it may be purchased from, etc. >> > > I'm a broadcast engineer, and began repairing radios as a hobby about 3 > years ago. I now have a dozen or so radio in my collection, most of which > I've repaired / restored to operation. I'm looking for what other people > consider to be their favorite books, and I'll give the list of titles and > authors to my family so that they get the right books. > But I think the question is, are you looking for books about the history of radio and/or vacuum tubes, or books about their repair, or history of specific radio manufacturers, or something else? Michael Article: 324188 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: Subject: Re: Radio/TV Shop Contents Message-ID: Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 20:53:52 -0700 How fantastic!!!!!!!!!!! Good luck and be sure to take pics!!! Post them on the binaries, I for one sure would like to see them!!!! Bob in phx !!! "benjamaniac" wrote in message news:discs7$7ljm$1@news3.infoave.net... > This coming up Thursday, my son and I are going to a little town about > 80 > miles from here to look at buying the entire contents of a small closed up > radio/TV repair shop that was in business from the '40's to the late > '70's. > Wish me luck on this one :))) > Ben > > Article: 324189 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: FA: nice Silvertones on eBay (not Mine) Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:02:52 -0600 Message-ID: <7512-4351D0EC-472@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <7NOdnYMKxdq-V8zeRVn-hw@comcast.com> You must have an alarm hooked to your computer when ebay gets Silvertone radios Article: 324190 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <7NOdnYMKxdq-V8zeRVn-hw@comcast.com> Subject: Re: nice Silvertones on eBay (not Mine) Message-ID: <7wk4f.4443$1A1.1435@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:18:11 GMT "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:7NOdnYMKxdq-V8zeRVn-hw@comcast.com... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8225874381&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 > > Sure it is your auction. oldradioparts ;o) jim menning begin 666 x.gif K1TE&.#EA`0`!`(#_`,# P ```"'Y! $`````+ `````!``$```("1 $`.P`` ` end Article: 324191 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Radio/TV Shop Contents Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 21:01:41 -0700 Message-ID: References: benjamaniac wrote: > This coming up Thursday, my son and I are going to a little town about 80 > miles from here to look at buying the entire contents of a small closed up > radio/TV repair shop that was in business from the '40's to the late '70's. > Wish me luck on this one :))) Post pictures if you can. Some of our younger viewers have no idea what one of these shops actually looked like. :-) -Scott Article: 324192 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Radio/TV Shop Contents Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:15:04 -0600 Message-ID: <7512-4351D3C8-474@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: NO steven the stuff will go in the trash first . Article: 324193 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Christmas List: What books to add? Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 22:17:24 -0600 Message-ID: <7513-4351D454-123@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: A book on how to get dumb dumb off the internet would bring big bucks :-) Article: 324194 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: nice Silvertones on eBay (not Mine) Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 00:44:07 -0400 Message-ID: <11l3mkslq331f41@news.supernews.com> References: <7NOdnYMKxdq-V8zeRVn-hw@comcast.com> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:7NOdnYMKxdq-V8zeRVn-hw@comcast.com... > table set 1937 gold dial: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8225874381&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 > This one leads to an auction for some slothead brass screws? Frank Article: 324195 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: DaveW Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 04:50:38 GMT xrongor wrote: > "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message > news:dirm3803bl@news1.newsguy.com... > >>xrongor wrote: >> >> >>>and im fundamentally rooting for the long overdue death of binary >>>newsgroups anyway. >> >>Never happen. For a variety of techniacl and legal reasons, usenet has >>become the de facto standard service for the propagation of Porn and >>Piracy......The world's largest underground network. As it stands right >>now, usenet servers are considered merely a "carrier" of traffic on a >>worldwide network (much like the telcos), and providers have no legal >>liability or responsibility for anything made available to customers via >>usenet. >> >>During the dotcom boom, I saw many, many of these "premium" usenet >>services spring up. Almost all of them survived and remain in business to >>this day. Clearly there is a market for these services. > > > ask a 16 year old kid where he gets his porn and does his piracy. its not > usenet. only the dinosaurs (me included) still roam usenet. > > randy > > Indeed. Ask most anyone who isn't a computer nerd, and who has had internet access for 5 years or more. The vast, vast majority don't even know that USENET exists. They think newsgroups = yahoo groups. Regards, DAve Article: 324196 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" Subject: packard bell console question Message-ID: <1129443632.93d15ef9cd3258845edaa493da24b0ff@teranews> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:20:23 -0700 so, I picked up this nice packard bell console - 1941 or 42 vintage (no model # yet, I'll get it later) - it has a pushbutton radio, a record recording/player under the lid on top, and a second, obviously installed later record player behind a door next to the radio. I'm trying to figure out what might have originally been behind that door- anyone got any thoughts? -- Bill to Email me, repair this address and use it: william_ b_ noble at msn dot com also check out http://www.wbnoble.com Article: 324197 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" Subject: FS - old magnetron - Warnecke Electron Tubes Inc Message-ID: <1129443676.f2782cb3bf77605523fdd3db50f68ad8@teranews> Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:21:15 -0700 anyone want this for their collection?? $15 including postage within the USA - green painted tube with U magnet, 6 pin connector needed, the label says the tube type is RW606 (or maybe it's 600?), serial number W-012, the places for optimum bean voltage and current are blank, made in Des Plaines, Ill, no date, looks post WWII - -- Bill to Email me, repair this address and use it: william_ b_ noble at msn dot com also check out http://www.wbnoble.com Article: 324198 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Radio/TV Shop Contents Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 06:53:11 GMT I'm sorry Ken, I didn't know you moved. "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message news:FHj4f.389$Xj4.56487@monger.newsread.com... > I still need a signal generator of decent quality, not even asking about an > o-scope, if you end up with a spare. Email me when you get through it. > "benjamaniac" wrote in message > news:discs7$7ljm$1@news3.infoave.net... > > This coming up Thursday, my son and I are going to a little town about > 80 > > miles from here to look at buying the entire contents of a small closed up > > radio/TV repair shop that was in business from the '40's to the late > '70's. > > Wish me luck on this one :))) > > Ben > > > > > > Article: 324199 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <7513-4351D454-123@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Christmas List: What books to add? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 06:55:16 GMT I can post and he will disappear, dragging his wireless keyboard behind him. "Ken G." wrote in message news:7513-4351D454-123@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... > A book on how to get dumb dumb off the internet would bring big bucks > :-) > Article: 324200 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <7NOdnYMKxdq-V8zeRVn-hw@comcast.com> Subject: Re: nice Silvertones on eBay (not Mine) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 06:57:45 GMT First one came up with wood screws, second one I agree is the Corvette of Silvertones. "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:7NOdnYMKxdq-V8zeRVn-hw@comcast.com... > table set 1937 gold dial: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8225874381&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 > > console, gold dial 1937: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Silvertone-Console-Wood-Radio-4586-BEAUTIFUL-Case_W0QQitemZ6570248594QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > second one's right by me... in Detroit area > > I love this dial on these sets. Way cheaper than a Zenith too. > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 324201 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <7NOdnYMKxdq-V8zeRVn-hw@comcast.com> <7512-4351D0EC-472@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: FA: nice Silvertones on eBay (not Mine) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 06:58:26 GMT It's called Favorite Searches. "Ken G." wrote in message news:7512-4351D0EC-472@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... > You must have an alarm hooked to your computer when ebay gets Silvertone > radios > Article: 324202 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <7513-4351D454-123@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Subject: What the hell is wrong, Ken? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 07:09:11 GMT I don't really give a damn but you feel the need to swipe. What is it that burns you so badly that you do contradictory things to the point I don't even know which side you want to be on? I don't have any cares if you want to be here, but stop making all these dumb swipes and be part of the group. Article: 324203 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" Subject: 6414 Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 07:20:00 GMT What applications in audio/radio can 6414's be used for? Could it substitute a 12AT7 or any other tube? Omer Article: 324204 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Jim Barnard" Subject: Re: Parts is parts Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 03:41:48 -0400 Message-ID: References: Gary: I repair old Zenith transistor radios more as a hobby than a full-time business. To date, I have been able to restore to service a little over 150 of these wonderful little radios. While electrolytics are a major problem, these old Zeniths have a fair amount of other problems with open interstage audio tranformers, bad speakers, and corroded battery holders, along with bad transistors. I look on Ebay for "clunker" radios for parts since there is a high interchangeability among several models. However, it is becoming harder and more expensive to find "parts" radios on Ebay. When I run across a "parts" set, I never throw anything away. Over the past few years, it has been amazing how much good can come from one "volunteer" radio. -- Jim's Transistor Radio Restorations Jim Barnard jbarnard@ftc-i.net Specializing in Zenith Transistor Radio Repair/Restoration "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:cX94f.1033$fc7.224@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > To those dealers who specialize in repairing/restoring old home radios . . > . > > As you know, I have been running a business related to car radios. The > main thrust has been conversions -- converting car radios to modern stereo > without changing appearance. These have been highly profitable, sort > of -- if only I could get the radios and the boards to come in at the > same time! Every time I get a surge of radios the boards are back-ordered, > and I receive them at a pace that almost allows me to pay my bills. Even > when I place orders two months in advance, I STILL have to wait at times! > > As time passes, only the excuses have changed. As far as I'm concerned I > cannot depend on these conversions to stay alive. Tomorrow the problems > will be fixed but tomorrow never comes. I've already begun offering > repairs on original AM radios, and this has helped but as of yet it is > still a small fraction of the income. This week, while twiddling my > thumbs in front of a stack of radios minus the boards, I've decided to dig > into some of the project home radios I've got sitting around. Gee -- > compared to car radios these are so easy to work on! No decision has been > made yet, but I'm considering offering service for the home radios in > addition to car units. > > However my question is, how often do you find yourself needing specialized > parts? Do you have a decent boneyard for picking these, or do you share > with each other? I can say I know my way around with car units, but the > home sets are really a whole new ball game -- just like some of you have > found this out about car units. > > I'm curious as to some insight. Thanks! > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > Article: 324205 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Saul Rabinowitz Subject: Re: cracking glue joints References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 08:08:11 GMT Bruce Mercer wrote: > "William Sommerwerck" wrote in message > news:bdqdnbc7wpMmgszeRVn-hQ@comcast.com... > >>I have two pairs of Advent speakers -- and a freezer much too small. >> >>I'd like to break the joints on two of them so I can reverse their front >>panels to create a mirror pair. >> >>Suggestions? >> >> > > > I was faced with the same problem but the item was a stack out of a player > piano (about five feet long). Fortunately, I have friends that own a large > supermarket and I could take large items like that and put them in their > freezers overnight. My only other option was to wait for winter and put them > outside overnight. Did it work? Saul Article: 324206 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <7NOdnYMKxdq-V8zeRVn-hw@comcast.com> <11l3mkslq331f41@news.supernews.com> Subject: Re: nice Silvertones on eBay (not Mine) Message-ID: <2Vn4f.400$Xj4.57522@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 08:09:34 GMT That's just about my chassis, which is from a cube if not this one. "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:TIadnQNe9-8on8_eRVn-rw@comcast.com... > OOPS sheesh, sorry, link should be: > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Silvertone-Standard-and-Short-Wave-Tube-type-Radio_W0QQitemZ6569790465QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > Mark Oppat > > > "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message > news:11l3mkslq331f41@news.supernews.com... > > > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > > news:7NOdnYMKxdq-V8zeRVn-hw@comcast.com... > > > table set 1937 gold dial: > > > > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8225874381&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 > > > > > > > This one leads to an auction for some slothead brass screws? > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > Article: 324207 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: 50's Zenith AM/FM modification Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 08:17:15 GMT That wilkl work, but I always though Zenith's idea was to eliminate noise as much as possibly they wanted the AM and FM to sound similar do as not to detract from the AM experience. FM might've sounded rather "bright" to the new FM listener, although they say that if you played AM stereo the first time : ( I live less than 1/2 mile from a 5000 watt AM quality music station playing 50s all night and the "Zenith" clock radio is so nice and full bodied you could just plug the antenna coax straight into my head. My head needs plate reverb now... "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:teednZiibfHZnM_eRVn-iQ@comcast.com... > everyone has seen those mid 50's Zenith AM/FM bakelite sets... like T825 and > such. you know, the ones with the huge round dial with the propeller > pointer. They were the best selling AM/FM bakelite by far, and came in > brown bakelite and several painted colors: white, grey and green. Green is > the hardest to find. Another option was the switchable RCA aux in on the > rear. > > For years I have hated the FM audio sound. Way too tubby (too much negative > feedback in the audio circuit) and almost no high end. > > Well, get out your SAMS # 287-17, kiddies, and pencil this in on the > schematic: change R36 from 2.2K to 22K and add .1mfd across R37. That > fixes everything in my opinion. > > Just finished the set, and thought I'd pass it along. > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 324208 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: THE CAPEHART SOLD... Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 08:18:29 GMT There have been 5+ magnitude tremors all day in Tokyo...doubt "rock n' roll" is a welcome phrase. "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:PbGdndqjSbuimc_eRVn-ug@comcast.com... > for only $375!!!! Man o man... what a steal! You guys were sleeping? > That thing is a treasure. Just about as heavy as a trunk of gold too..! > Hope the speaker doesnt get gutted out just so Toshi in Toyko can hear the > correct bleat of the sax in his Heuy Lewis and News collection. > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 324209 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: Parts is parts Date: 16 Oct 2005 03:21:03 -0500 Message-ID: <43520cd8$0$252$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: Gary Tayman wrote: > To those dealers who specialize in repairing/restoring old home radios . . . > > As you know, I have been running a business related to car radios. The main > thrust has been conversions -- converting car radios to modern stereo > without changing appearance. These have been highly profitable, sort of -- > if only I could get the radios and the boards to come in at the same time! > Every time I get a surge of radios the boards are back-ordered, and I > receive them at a pace that almost allows me to pay my bills. Even when I > place orders two months in advance, I STILL have to wait at times! > Someone who used to be active in this group once told me that he was successful with having his customers wait for things. He convinced them of the value and especially the quality and care that he would provide for them, and they'd be contented to wait for quite some time, knowing that they would be satisfied and taken care of well. With autos, it's not as easy. For one thing, some of these cars probably have aftermarket A/C units that block the radio, so while they wait, their A/Cs may be apart as well. But this may be worth feeling out with each party. I'd stress the uniqueness of your service (and it _is_ unique), and that the work that you do is very customized, requiring the coordination of modification work as well as parts that aren't so easy to come by any more. Stress the custom and restoration aspects. You want your customers to be thrilled with what you'll pull off for them. I think that this can go a long way, and it'll provide you with some breathing room in which to coordinate the aspects of each job. Bubba Article: 324210 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Antonio Vernucci" References: <1129158379.001408.139340@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8KKdnaLteOE8NdPeRVn-hg@adelphia.com> <1129451689.073728.71950@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FS - TV-7 D/U ebay item #7553330514 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:57:24 +0200 Message-ID: <435215f6$0$13358$4fafbaef@reader2.news.tin.it> > It's not even plugged in. That's just a glint of light from the = camera > flash. Give a better look to the pictures. In the picture where the lamp appeas = to glow the main switch is at ON (though one cannot see whether the = power cord is plugged), while in the other pictures it is at OFF. Also = some knobs are differently set. Evidently he wanted to also show the instrument in operation. He plugged = the tube to be tested, the power cord and adjusted the potentiometers = for test. Tony, I0JX Article: 324211 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: chris+news@suslowicz.org (Chris Suslowicz) Subject: Re: FS - TV-7 D/U ebay item #7553330514 Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:21:50 +0100 Message-ID: References: <1129158379.001408.139340@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8KKdnaLteOE8NdPeRVn-hg@adelphia.com> <33E3f.497$Hs.462@tornado.socal.rr.com> <_sZ3f.303$5i.205@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> In article <_sZ3f.303$5i.205@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>, "jim menning" wrote: >"Adam Stouffer" wrote in message >news:ipY3f.626$da1.339@trndny04... >> K3HVG wrote: >>> Sorry, that's NO reflection... What's visible is an incandescent >>> glow. But, if one wants it, buy it, they are nice units and >>> repairable. >>> >> >> Haha he revised the auction and removed the picture. >> >> >> Adam > >It's still there. You need to follow the link in the listing. Indeed, and it's definitely *not* a reflection: the power light is on (red) and the "fuse" is glowing yellow and has a nice halo effect where it's illuminating the front panel. Also, in the photo below that one, the meter is at half-scale, so it's definitely been under power at some point in the proceedings. A trifle academic now since it sold for 330 USD - I hope it's OK, because that's quite a lot to pay for a basic valve tester. Chris. Article: 324212 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <9Ne4f.365$Xj4.54287@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: Sarasota Swap Meet -- still 6 weeks away but we're working hard Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:11:04 GMT We already have an ad on its way to AWA, and we already have their mailing list -- and have been using it. Last night, at a car cruise (it's amazing how many of us have similar interests) I chatted with some one who has leads to some collectors in Bradenton, and has contacts with a radio station in Tampa whose morning DJ is a collector. So I'll be pursuing that route. This is one reason I'm starting early -- leads like this are coming out of the woodwork. "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:CIf4f.6993$OM.419948@twister.southeast.rr.com... > Gary, send notices to ARC, AWA and post them anywhere > you can on the web. > If you're really serious, contact AWA sect. and ask > for their mailing list for Fla. They gave them to us for > many years before we got our own. > I looked at the Charlotte Conference registration list > and it only shows about 25 or 30 attendees from Fla. > since about 2000. > I agree that there's got to be lots of old timers there > now. > Also find one of your local group that's a ham and have > them talk it up on the local repeaters. > > Unless you have a good connection "inside" > I doubt you'll get much in the way of PSAs from local > radio stations. > They know you're just looking for free advertising... > > We've found that the way for a meet to grow is to be > consistent, in the same location every year for one. > It really needs to be more than just a flea market, > some displays, equipment contest, forums, etc. > > Easy to find, on the interstate at a hotel with ample > parking is best. > > Advertise, advertise, advertise... > > Ron Lawrence, CC-AWA President and Conference Chairman > http://cc-awa.org Article: 324213 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <43520cd8$0$252$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Subject: Re: Parts is parts Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:37:52 GMT In response to all of these messages, yes indeed I'm sure I'll be making use of your parts stocks. By the way, with the car radios it seems the interchangeability of parts is low. Every make, model, and year car has its own radio with its own parts, and if you pull an IF out of one you'll be hard pressed to find another radio that takes the same IF. The one make that's bad for IF's is Bendix. They put wafers inside the plastic base of the IF's for caps, and they corrode and become intermittent. I've heard of people repairing these by carefully cutting into the base with a Dremel tool and adding a cap underneath, but I have yet to be successful. These radios also have trimmers with silver mica disease. I've seen these radios come >from junkyards; between the IF's, the trimmers, and the cheap splash-soldered PCB's, these things snap, crackle, and pop, reception cuts in and out, and I've spent boo-koo hours on these to no avail. When I receive one like this I recommend a conversion. In any case, bear in mind that I'm building a stock of car radio parts -- and indeed have a boneyard in the garage that I often pick from. If any of you have needs for car radio parts, bear in mind I might have it. As for the waiting, I would expect home radio owners to be more patient. With cars I get both types; some are doing restorations that may take years, while others want me to finish it today and overnight it back so they can have it installed for Friday's car show. I've tried to be quick with conversions, and have told service customers that no turnaround can be guaranteed as the radios are 50-70 years old. Car radios can stack up some and not hurt anything; I figure home radios can stack up a LOT and not hurt anything. With such a cushion the income can be a lot more steady. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "CalBubba" wrote in message news:43520cd8$0$252$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com... > Gary Tayman wrote: >> To those dealers who specialize in repairing/restoring old home radios . >> . . >> >> As you know, I have been running a business related to car radios. The >> main thrust has been conversions -- converting car radios to modern >> stereo without changing appearance. These have been highly profitable, >> sort of -- if only I could get the radios and the boards to come in at >> the same time! Every time I get a surge of radios the boards are >> back-ordered, and I receive them at a pace that almost allows me to pay >> my bills. Even when I place orders two months in advance, I STILL have >> to wait at times! >> > > Someone who used to be active in this group once told me that he was > successful with having his customers wait for things. He convinced them of > the value and especially the quality and care that he would provide for > them, and they'd be contented to wait for quite some time, knowing that > they would be satisfied and taken care of well. > > With autos, it's not as easy. For one thing, some of these cars probably > have aftermarket A/C units that block the radio, so while they wait, their > A/Cs may be apart as well. But this may be worth feeling out with each > party. > > I'd stress the uniqueness of your service (and it _is_ unique), and that > the work that you do is very customized, requiring the coordination of > modification work as well as parts that aren't so easy to come by any > more. Stress the custom and restoration aspects. You want your customers > to be thrilled with what you'll pull off for them. I think that this can > go a long way, and it'll provide you with some breathing room in which to > coordinate the aspects of each job. > > Bubba Article: 324214 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FS - TV-7 D/U ebay item #7553330514 From: Jon Yaeger Message-ID: References: <1129158379.001408.139340@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <8KKdnaLteOE8NdPeRVn-hg@adelphia.com> <33E3f.497$Hs.462@tornado.socal.rr.com> <_sZ3f.303$5i.205@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 08:59:05 -0400 in article BF77E84E96686DF86@192.168.1.23, Chris Suslowicz at chris+news@suslowicz.org wrote on 10/16/05 6:21 AM: > In article <_sZ3f.303$5i.205@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com>, > "jim menning" wrote: > >> "Adam Stouffer" wrote in message >> news:ipY3f.626$da1.339@trndny04... >>> K3HVG wrote: >>>> Sorry, that's NO reflection... What's visible is an incandescent >>>> glow. But, if one wants it, buy it, they are nice units and >>>> repairable. >>>> >>> >>> Haha he revised the auction and removed the picture. >>> >>> >>> Adam >> >> It's still there. You need to follow the link in the listing. > > Indeed, and it's definitely *not* a reflection: the power light is on > (red) and the "fuse" is glowing yellow and has a nice halo effect > where it's illuminating the front panel. Also, in the photo below > that one, the meter is at half-scale, so it's definitely been under > power at some point in the proceedings. > > A trifle academic now since it sold for 330 USD - I hope it's OK, > because that's quite a lot to pay for a basic valve tester. > > Chris. Actually, it's in the medium price range for a good tester. Good Hickoks often go for $400-$500 Article: 324215 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: THE CAPEHART SOLD... Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:49:36 -0400 Yeah, but Mark, some of us have wives that make those decisions! It wouldn't work in ranch house. Pete "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:PbGdndqjSbuimc_eRVn-ug@comcast.com... > for only $375!!!! Man o man... what a steal! You guys were sleeping? > That thing is a treasure. Just about as heavy as a trunk of gold too..! > Hope the speaker doesnt get gutted out just so Toshi in Toyko can hear the > correct bleat of the sax in his Heuy Lewis and News collection. > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 324216 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: THE CAPEHART SOLD... References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:55:05 GMT Uncle Peter wrote: > Yeah, but Mark, some of us have wives that make those decisions! > It wouldn't work in ranch house. > Whipped... Ron Article: 324217 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43525D41.8F6FE80E@optonline.net> From: Sal Brisindi Subject: New Jersey Antique Swapmeet Sunday Oct 23rd Hazlet NJ Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:01:38 -0400 Hi Folks, The New Jersey Antique Radio Club will be hosting their fall swap meet Sunday October 23rd in Hazlet New Jersey. This will be our last swap meet for the year so come on over and stock up on radios and parts. We are still taking reservations for sellers. Details ar http://www.njarc.org Regards, Sal Brisindi NJARC Treasurer Article: 324218 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FA: nice Silvertones on eBay (not Mine) From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <7NOdnYMKxdq-V8zeRVn-hw@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:57:38 GMT In article <7NOdnYMKxdq-V8zeRVn-hw@comcast.com>, moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... > > > table set 1937 gold dial: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8225874381&rd=1&sspagename =STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&rd=1 > >console, gold dial 1937: > >http://cgi.ebay.com/Silvertone-Console-Wood-Radio-4586-BEAUTIFUL-Case_W0QQite mZ6570248594QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > >second one's right by me... in Detroit area > >I love this dial on these sets. Way cheaper than a Zenith too. > >Mark Oppat Me Thinks your first URL above probably isn't what U intended to post to the group..... its an auction for your screws!... The Silvertone Console is a nice one.... I have identical one here... Cabinet has a lot of eye appeal to it.... John Article: 324219 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: THE CAPEHART SOLD... Message-ID: <9Wt4f.17072$fE5.2647@fed1read06> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:00:31 -0400 "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:ZYs4f.9922$Sg2.661507@twister.southeast.rr.com... > Uncle Peter wrote: > > Yeah, but Mark, some of us have wives that make those decisions! > > It wouldn't work in ranch house. > > > > Whipped... > > Ron Ha! You were banished to the garage!! Pete :) Article: 324220 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Parts is parts From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <0-ydnZzrxMazzszeRVn-qw@comcast.com> Message-ID: <15u4f.442801$_o.192990@attbi_s71> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:11:57 GMT In article , moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... > > >OOPS forgot my pal John Goller is a full time servicer here too...sorry John >and Jean! > >Mark Oppat Yup we are still here... still fixing up old radios... ballpark 125 to 150 per year ... but I have help doing them... 2 other guys that help a bit on chassis rebuilding and Jean has one other lady that helps her on Cabinets... One More Year ... and then I am going to do a whole lot less of them myself!... one of the other locals will be taking over I hope at least 1/2 of my business!... Hell I am supposed to be retired!... Gary .... you need to go modify your website a bit... get some stuff in there about wooden radios... a few pictures.. of nice stuff you have restored... a few meta tags etc... Gary Again.... some of the bigger Car Shows in Florida... you need to be there with a booth set up... in that booth of course a couple of your conversion car radios... one set up and working would be nice.. plus a few "Wooden Radios" all done and ready to go.... stand on your feet for 3 or 4 days in a row for 12 hours a day and talk to people about their old radios............. works for me..... too well!... Parts.... yup.... in time you need to build a small pile of junkers.. most important is good sources for guys that have huge junkyards of parts.... dummies like me and Mark Oppat... Gary Schneider has good stock of goodies also... Play Things of the Past ... if he will quit moving all the time! better get the gate guards up on the FL border... only 7 week left till we will once again be invading FL... John k9uwa Article: 324221 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Radio/TV Shop Contents From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:13:48 GMT In article , benjamaniac@yahoo.com says... > > > This coming up Thursday, my son and I are going to a little town about 80 >miles from here to look at buying the entire contents of a small closed up >radio/TV repair shop that was in business from the '40's to the late '70's. >Wish me luck on this one :))) > Ben > > Good Luck on this one Ben.... this could be really good!... John k9uwa Article: 324222 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: THE CAPEHART SOLD... References: <9Wt4f.17072$fE5.2647@fed1read06> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 15:28:14 GMT Uncle Peter wrote: > Ha! You were banished to the garage!! > Not banished, that garage is the reason we bought the house. Besides, I have the next to the biggest of the 4 bedrooms upstairs for my ham shack/office/BA collection/Clough-Brengle test equipment collection, and the smallest bedroom for my library/electric fan collection/Apollo 11 collection. And there are 7 radios in the mail living area, a Westinghouse grandfather clock in the living room, an AK 84 grandfather clock in the dining room, a Philco mantel clock in the den, and a spice rack radio and a can opener radio in the kitchen. All that plus a 2 car detached garage that's never had a car parked in it because it's full of radio "stuff". All this is because of an understanding wife of 31 years. Ron Article: 324223 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Parts is parts Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:58:43 -0600 Message-ID: <1235-435278B3-38@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: Jim i also do transistor radios and have the stuff to rebuild those Zenith speakers Article: 324224 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Radio/TV Shop Contents Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:55:52 -0600 Message-ID: <1233-43527808-684@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: The one and only i bought out was only 3 miles away set up in his huge basement and looked like it was simply walked away from . He saved stuff for 20 or more years waiting for its owners to pick it up . It was a long but fun removal . If you run across lots of older 45 rpm records i`m intrested . Article: 324225 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: packard bell console question Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 10:12:48 -0600 Message-ID: <1234-43527C00-172@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> References: <1129443632.93d15ef9cd3258845edaa493da24b0ff@teranews> Record disk storage . Article: 324226 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Parts is parts From: Ron Ramirez References: <0-ydnZzrxMazzszeRVn-qw@comcast.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:36:00 GMT For what it's worth, I too am working full-time on radio restorations...but I'm planning on switching to part-time at the end of this year, and going back to work full-time. -- Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ and the new Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php "Mark Oppat" wrote in news:KqCdnarlfJHvX8zenZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@comcast.com: > OOPS forgot my pal John Goller is a full time servicer here > too...sorry John and Jean! > > Mark Oppat Article: 324227 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <7NOdnYMKxdq-V8zeRVn-hw@comcast.com> <11l3mkslq331f41@news.supernews.com> Subject: Re: nice Silvertones on eBay (not Mine) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:52:43 GMT By all means do, Larry. The cabinet ALONE is worth the effort. "Larry Fowkes" wrote in message news:T--dnQZ1bcwAos_eRVn-hQ@comcast.com... > > "Mark Oppat" wrote in message > news:TIadnQNe9-8on8_eRVn-rw@comcast.com... > > OOPS sheesh, sorry, link should be: > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Silvertone-Standard-and-Short-Wave-Tube-type-Radio_W0QQitemZ6569790465QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > Mark Oppat > > Mark, > > That one is close to me, I will have to go after it. I have wanted one of > those Silvertones for a while. > > Larry Fowkes > > Article: 324228 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: <9Wt4f.17072$fE5.2647@fed1read06> Subject: Re: THE CAPEHART SOLD... Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:09:46 -0500 "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:iku4f.9930$Sg2.677964@twister.southeast.rr.com... > Uncle Peter wrote: >> Ha! You were banished to the garage!! >> > > Not banished, that garage is the reason we bought the house. > Besides, I have the next to the biggest of the 4 bedrooms > upstairs for my ham shack/office/BA collection/Clough-Brengle > test equipment collection, and the smallest bedroom > for my library/electric fan collection/Apollo 11 collection. > And there are 7 radios in the mail living area, a Westinghouse > grandfather clock in the living room, an AK 84 grandfather clock > in the dining room, a Philco mantel clock in the den, and a spice > rack radio and a can opener radio in the kitchen. > All that plus a 2 car detached garage that's never had a car > parked in it because it's full of radio "stuff". > > All this is because of an understanding wife of 31 years. > > Ron My wife supports my hobby. She was upset I sold a lot of my radios when we moved to MN. Her exact words were, Your going to sell all those radios you worked so hard to fix? You shouldn't do that. I'm a lucky man. -- 73 and good DX. B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 324229 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <9Wt4f.17072$fE5.2647@fed1read06> Subject: Re: THE CAPEHART SOLD... Message-ID: <8Vv4f.17097$fE5.16045@fed1read06> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:15:57 -0400 "Brian Hill" wrote in message news:uPv4f.12379$nE2.5@fe03.lga... > > " > > My wife supports my hobby. She was upset I sold a lot of my radios when we > moved to MN. Her exact words were, Your going to sell all those radios you > worked so hard to fix? You shouldn't do that. I'm a lucky man. > > > -- > 73 and good DX. B.H. > Brian's Radio Universe > http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm > > So does mine. Article: 324230 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: THE CAPEHART SOLD... References: <9Wt4f.17072$fE5.2647@fed1read06> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 17:16:12 GMT Brian Hill wrote: > I'm a lucky man. Me too Brian, me too. When I showed Belinda the Clough-Brengle transmitter I got last week, she didn't bat an eye when I told her I paid $400 for it. She just said "that's nice, I glad you finally got it". I wouldn't trade her for an IP500... Ron http://radioheaven.homestead.com Article: 324231 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: <9Wt4f.17072$fE5.2647@fed1read06> Subject: Re: THE CAPEHART SOLD... Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 12:34:00 -0500 "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:wVv4f.10037$Sg2.706920@twister.southeast.rr.com... > Brian Hill wrote: >> I'm a lucky man. > > > Me too Brian, me too. > When I showed Belinda the Clough-Brengle > transmitter I got last week, she didn't bat an eye > when I told her I paid $400 for it. She just said > "that's nice, I glad you finally got it". > > I wouldn't trade her for an IP500... > > Ron > http://radioheaven.homestead.com I sometimes think the problem with some folks marriges are that they didn't marry their best freind which should be their wives. Just my 2c B.H. Article: 324232 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <9Wt4f.17072$fE5.2647@fed1read06> Subject: Re: THE CAPEHART SOLD... Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 17:37:20 GMT I don't know what an IP500 is, but I suspect the love and support of a wife is better than any radio or gadget. "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:wVv4f.10037$Sg2.706920@twister.southeast.rr.com... > Brian Hill wrote: > > I'm a lucky man. > > > Me too Brian, me too. > When I showed Belinda the Clough-Brengle > transmitter I got last week, she didn't bat an eye > when I told her I paid $400 for it. She just said > "that's nice, I glad you finally got it". > > I wouldn't trade her for an IP500... > > Ron > http://radioheaven.homestead.com Article: 324233 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: philsvintageradios Subject: Re: FA: nice Silvertones on eBay (not Mine) Message-ID: <8q55l1195pup98pv10hpd92kbubqoirate@4ax.com> References: <7NOdnYMKxdq-V8zeRVn-hw@comcast.com> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:11:44 GMT On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:57:38 GMT, k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) wrote: > its an auction for your screws!... maybe its a subliminal message,, he's screwing with us ? Just kidding mark, you seem to point to some good auctions, always interesting.. and never near me so I don't have to be too tempted. Phil Article: 324234 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <7NOdnYMKxdq-V8zeRVn-hw@comcast.com> <8q55l1195pup98pv10hpd92kbubqoirate@4ax.com> Subject: Re: FA: nice Silvertones on eBay (not Mine) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:23:36 GMT He's in the Detroit area, and you are like pretty close to Ontario or Quebec. How does that excuse you? A friendly poke. "philsvintageradios" wrote in message news:8q55l1195pup98pv10hpd92kbubqoirate@4ax.com... > On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:57:38 GMT, k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John > Goller, k9uwa) wrote: > > > its an auction for your screws!... > > maybe its a subliminal message,, he's screwing with us ? > Just kidding mark, you seem to point to some good auctions, always > interesting.. and never near me so I don't have to be too tempted. > > Phil Article: 324235 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <1129443632.93d15ef9cd3258845edaa493da24b0ff@teranews> <1234-43527C00-172@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: packard bell console question Message-ID: <1129488101.921ea4db766a74605b5e2651d155d058@teranews> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 11:41:09 -0700 I don't think so, it looks like it had a mechanism in there before. there is record storage in the lower compartment next to the speaker. I'll try and get a photo or a model #. thanks bill n "Ken G." wrote in message news:1234-43527C00-172@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net... > Record disk storage . > Article: 324236 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> Subject: Warning: high fat and choleterol content. Known to be flammable iin some states? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:25:58 GMT The final pictures are in for my speaker rebuilding project (Asynchronous model LL-8R). The er, Supermodel posing for the pics didn't have makeup on, so the signature is applicable indeed...this was after I moved and it was a mess to clear it up. (binaries, even!) -- ~~~~~ If you think this is bad, the screenplay will be much worse... Article: 324237 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" Subject: What so special about this? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:27:16 -0500 http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/171-ZENITH-RADIO-NURSE-W-GUARDIAN-EAR-DESIGNED-BY_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28221QQitemZ6567805273QQrdZ1 -- 73 and good DX. B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 324238 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: that means to the binaries and look at my speakers now that the pix are in and I'm in one (???) Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 19:59:30 GMT "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message news:aPx4f.421$Xj4.61942@monger.newsread.com... > The final pictures are in for my speaker rebuilding project (Asynchronous > model LL-8R). The er, Supermodel posing for the pics didn't have makeup on, > so the signature is applicable indeed...this was after I moved and it was a > mess to clear it up. > > > (binaries, even!) > > -- > ~~~~~ > If you think this is bad, the screenplay will be much worse... > > Article: 324239 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Garret A Wikoff Subject: AK-55 needs a good home Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:16:18 -0400 Message-ID: <6dc5l15t3tar1lmolhgnjj9tu2rb6i6lg7@4ax.com> I have an AtwaterKent 55F receiver that I need to get rid of. It is installed in a Pooley cabnet so I cannot see the serial number. The nameplate says 55F 25 cycle, all the tubes are present and probably good. The radio hasn't been operated in at least 60 years. There is a tone control device that slides onto the base of one of the tubes before it is plugged into the chassis. The cabnet is in good shape but the grill cloth is damaged. I live about 15 miles north of Syracuse NY and would be happy to give this to someone can make use of it. It has turned legs so it would be difficult to ship safely. Garret Wikoff Article: 324240 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <1129443632.93d15ef9cd3258845edaa493da24b0ff@teranews> <1234-43527C00-172@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: packard bell console question Message-ID: <1129495682.08e304d9658d34e3f39d720898166797@teranews> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:47:59 -0700 ok, the thing is a Packard Bell Phon-o-cord, number stamped on the chassis is B19 37701 The compartment next to the radio part has a ground wire (not connected) in it, and has ventilation holes - it was most definately not record storage. I will attempt to get a photo from the rear next and put it on my web site. Meanwhile, Schematic anyone? It is odd that there is a 450 volt electolytic in the speaker compartment, and that some terminals from that electrolytic seem to go external. - I'd like to understand why it's there so I know how to replace it "Ken G." wrote in message news:1234-43527C00-172@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net... > Record disk storage . > Article: 324241 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <1129443632.93d15ef9cd3258845edaa493da24b0ff@teranews> <0PGdneXe2rKRMs_eRVn-uw@look.ca> Subject: Re: packard bell console question Message-ID: <1129496388.39294f30002769b303788cefab927c2b@teranews> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:59:43 -0700 you may be right that it was a second record player - there is a light above it, which suggests that it was something you needed to see, but since there are two tone arms on the record recorder, I had sort of figured that it would be the record player - but maybe not. "k35454" wrote in message news:0PGdneXe2rKRMs_eRVn-uw@look.ca... > > "william_b_noble" wrote in message > news:1129443632.93d15ef9cd3258845edaa493da24b0ff@teranews... > so, I picked up this nice packard bell console - 1941 or 42 vintage (no > model # yet, I'll get it later) - it has a pushbutton radio, a record > recording/player under the lid on top, and a second, obviously installed > later record player behind a door next to the radio. I'm trying to figure > out what might have originally been behind that door- anyone got any > thoughts? > > -- > Bill > > to Email me, repair this address and use it: > william_ b_ noble at msn dot com > > also check out http://www.wbnoble.com > > An earlier record player ? k35454. > > > Article: 324242 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Christmas List: What books to add? References: <7513-4351D454-123@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 16:08:02 -0500 Ken G. wrote: > A book on how to get dumb dumb off the internet would bring big bucks > :-) > Loath as I am to post a "me too" - me too! Books: I didn't see a mention one of my favorites: Ed Romney's "Fixing up nice old Radios". Some of his advice is the type that when you read it - you slap your forehead and go well duh... I shoulda thought of that! (but didn't). Best regards -- rg Article: 324243 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <1129443632.93d15ef9cd3258845edaa493da24b0ff@teranews> <1234-43527C00-172@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> <1129495682.08e304d9658d34e3f39d720898166797@teranews> Subject: Re: packard bell console question Message-ID: <1129497041.6ae651dfa8836587d64edc2d0f2f8ca3@teranews> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 14:10:09 -0700 found the schematic in Ryders Vol 13 after a short web search - isnt' the internet cool "william_b_noble" wrote in message news:1129495682.08e304d9658d34e3f39d720898166797@teranews... > ok, the thing is a Packard Bell Phon-o-cord, number stamped on the chassis > is B19 37701 > > The compartment next to the radio part has a ground wire (not connected) > in it, and has ventilation holes - it was most definately not record > storage. I will attempt to get a photo from the rear next and put it on my > web site. > > Meanwhile, Schematic anyone? It is odd that there is a 450 volt > electolytic in the speaker compartment, and that some terminals from that > electrolytic seem to go external. - I'd like to understand why it's there > so I know how to replace it > "Ken G." wrote in message > news:1234-43527C00-172@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net... >> Record disk storage . >> > > Article: 324244 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: What so special about this? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:16:11 GMT You cant do that, eBay only counts the highest bid against the maximum bid. The lowest high bid is always the winner (Edith Bunker help me). "Warren Weber" wrote in message news:TdCdnUFQCOysK8_eRVn-vA@bresnan.com... > > "Brian Hill" wrote in message > news:nQx4f.6318$lN2.1777@fe04.lga... > > http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/171-ZENITH-RADIO-NURSE-W-GUARDIAN-EAR-DESIGNED-BY_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ28221QQitemZ6567805273QQrdZ1 > > > > > > -- > > 73 and good DX. B.H. > > Brian's Radio Universe > > http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm > > Looks like winner kept bidding against self. Went from $1000 to $2400 on > same bidder. Guess I don't understand E Bay bidding. Warren > > Article: 324245 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <0-ydnZzrxMazzszeRVn-qw@comcast.com> <15u4f.442801$_o.192990@attbi_s71> Subject: Re: Parts is parts Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:42:15 GMT John, It seems the problem is not in advertising so much as in the nasty surprises that are happening far too often. Advertising is an interesting science. It's like a freight train -- takes awhile to start, and takes quite awhile to stop. In the old days when I really was making a profit, the business was evenly split three ways -- repairing a radio, repairing and adding FM, and stereo conversion. For me the most profitable was the repair and add FM, but one day AAR quit making them in favor of conversions. But the repairs kept on coming, and people kept asking for the FM modules. This burned me, and to this day I haven't recovered. I kept getting repairs, but instead of doing it for adding FM, I was getting the cheapskates who wanted me to fix junk for nothing. So I quit the repairs -- and kept on getting them for another year before I put my foot down. With business going full time, I've been scraping for the past six months, dealing at first with massive back orders, and then a sudden shipment of $5,000.00 worth of boards just in time for the summer slump. Of course I've increased my advertising considerably so that when the season hits, it'll make up for lost time So just as the ads are kicking in, summer slump is over and here come the radios in droves. A couple months of this and I'll be out of debt and in good shape. So I call AAR to order more stereo boards -- "oh, one of our assemblers just quit, so it'll be awhile before you'll be getting any boards." So -- as you can imagine this is positively the last straw. At least for now I'll continue with conversions; the only difference is that the "two week turnaround" will most likely be replaced with 6 months or more, and I'm scrambling to base my income on something that does not depend on AAR. As it is, car radios need vibrators, and guess who "says" they will continue to make new vibrators? More and more I'm thinking home radios are the way to go. I'll keep doing the other things, but if I can't get what I need it'll be their loss and not mine. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:15u4f.442801$_o.192990@attbi_s71... > In article , > moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... >> >> >>OOPS forgot my pal John Goller is a full time servicer here too...sorry >>John >>and Jean! >> >>Mark Oppat > > Yup we are still here... still fixing up old radios... ballpark 125 to 150 > per year ... but I have help doing them... 2 other guys that help a bit > on chassis rebuilding and Jean has one other lady that helps her on > Cabinets... > > One More Year ... and then I am going to do a whole lot less of them > myself!... one of the other locals will be taking over I hope at least > 1/2 of my business!... > > Hell I am supposed to be retired!... > > Gary .... you need to go modify your website a bit... > get some stuff in there about wooden radios... a few pictures.. of nice > stuff you have restored... a few meta tags etc... > > Gary Again.... some of the bigger Car Shows in Florida... you need to > be there with a booth set up... in that booth of course a couple > of your conversion car radios... one set up and working would be nice.. > > plus a few "Wooden Radios" all done and ready to go.... stand on your > feet for 3 or 4 days in a row for 12 hours a day and talk to people > about their old radios............. > > works for me..... too well!... > > Parts.... yup.... in time you need to build a small pile of junkers.. > most important is good sources for guys that have huge junkyards of > parts.... dummies like me and Mark Oppat... Gary Schneider has good > stock of goodies also... Play Things of the Past ... if he will quit > moving all the time! > > better get the gate guards up on the FL border... only 7 week left > till we will once again be invading FL... > > John k9uwa > > > Article: 324246 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Name this set From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1129341482.385789.275250@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1129498714.802922.267270@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 21:52:33 GMT In article <1129498714.802922.267270@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, n9vu@yahoo.com says... > > >I am one of those few who buys radios for my own >personal enjoyment and not for profit. > >GB You haven't been collecting long enough yet.... or the above wouldn't be a true statement... maybe the profit part... but the keeping of them is the part that gets impossible eventually.... now if you think I have too many radios.... friend of ours went to see John Den Hartigh's goody pile a while back.... Mark and the guys that attend Lansing Meets know John... now he definitely has too many radios!... John k9uwa Article: 324247 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Parts is parts From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <0-ydnZzrxMazzszeRVn-qw@comcast.com> <15u4f.442801$_o.192990@attbi_s71> Message-ID: <76A4f.439611$x96.398431@attbi_s72> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:02:43 GMT In article , gtayman@gate.net says... > > >More and more I'm thinking home radios are the way to >go. I'll keep doing the other things, but if I can't get what I need it'll >be their loss and not mine. >Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical well for us its much more Home Radios... in fact you should be getting at least a few auto radio conversions from people I talked to at the last show.... week long one over labor day.... several people after talking to them about what type of radio and what type of car.... have U converted car from 6 volts to 12 volts negative ground etc.... after they have answered those questions then I either lead them to rebuild the existing radio.... or ship the critter to you for conversion .... any that converted to 12 volts should definitely in my opinion get radio conversion... besides all I ship to you are ones I don't have to do!... The other side of this... same for me as for Mark Oppat.... this ain't the only source of income we have.... I don't think I could really make sizable income rebuilding old radios.... for us its more of a supplement to income... and we probably spend more on buying other radios we want than what we really make at it... John k9uwa Article: 324248 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: 50's Zenith AM/FM modification Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:01:02 GMT Mark, With the help of a nice digital camera being handy, I'll be posting a photo of the radio on the binaries. If needed I can dig through it and find a model number. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:GJCdnb4PztYTO8_enZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@comcast.com... > Actually, I seem to recall I have a set of knobs for this model. Which > one > do you need? There are 4 unique ones on it.... tone, vol, and split > tune/bandswitch knobs. > Mark Oppat > > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:mlr4f.2237$4O1.1331@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> Mark, >> >> Do you have knobs for these? I've got one with an incorrect knob on it. > At >> some point when I dig into this radio I can send you a photo. >> >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> >> "Mark Oppat" wrote in message >> news:teednZiibfHZnM_eRVn-iQ@comcast.com... >> > everyone has seen those mid 50's Zenith AM/FM bakelite sets... like >> > T825 >> > and >> > such. you know, the ones with the huge round dial with the propeller >> > pointer. They were the best selling AM/FM bakelite by far, and came in >> > brown bakelite and several painted colors: white, grey and green. >> > Green >> > is >> > the hardest to find. Another option was the switchable RCA aux in on > the >> > rear. >> > >> > For years I have hated the FM audio sound. Way too tubby (too much >> > negative >> > feedback in the audio circuit) and almost no high end. >> > >> > Well, get out your SAMS # 287-17, kiddies, and pencil this in on the >> > schematic: change R36 from 2.2K to 22K and add .1mfd across R37. >> > That >> > fixes everything in my opinion. >> > >> > Just finished the set, and thought I'd pass it along. >> > >> > Mark Oppat >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > Article: 324249 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: What so special about this? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:09:59 GMT In article , hiview68NOSPAM@1236bresnan.net says... > > >Looks like winner kept bidding against self. Went from $1000 to $2400 on >same bidder. Guess I don't understand E Bay bidding. Warren > > no if you look again you will see "Live Floor Bidder" in between each of his bids till U get to the end of the live auction... John k9uwa Article: 324250 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: Parts is parts Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 17:07:36 -0500 Message-ID: <6nj5l1h8bplp62ktlgq55l4jrgu6dpi49i@4ax.com> References: On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 16:16:08 GMT "Gary Tayman" wrote: >if only I could get the radios and the boards to come in at the same time! What boards are you waiting for? Are you having custom made PC boards made? If so, there are very good places out there that will do these in under a week. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 324251 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Attention Florida Collectors From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) Message-ID: <_qA4f.439634$x96.53009@attbi_s72> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:24:58 GMT Here is your once a year chance.. not much room left in the Van... I could haul maybe two more consoles.... take a look at our Garage Inventory and Shed inventory for any consoles you might be interested in having... Or anyone else that wants to drive here and buy... We are outta here around December 1st... will be in the Orlando, FL area for the next 4 months... Front Page of Website http://johnjeanantiqueradio.com direct to the Garage Stuff http://johnjeanantiqueradio.com/garage.htm direct to the Shed Inventory http://johnjeanantiqueradio.com/shed.htm you will see some radios in both of the above that I do NOT want to sell ... but a lot of them need new homes... John k9uwa Article: 324252 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:36:26 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: THE CAPEHART SOLD... References: <9f2dnfS8YZi1Us_eRVn-pg@qx.net> Message-ID: <26b79$4352d5ed$4232bdae$31737@COQUI.NET> Theresa McCarty wrote: > Theresa doesn't want any junk downstairs. I am allowed downstairs. > > Why, Jimmy? That seems to be a big contradiction? -Bill Article: 324253 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Parts is parts Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 18:42:14 -0400 Message-ID: <11l5lq7k1t56k59@news.supernews.com> References: <0-ydnZzrxMazzszeRVn-qw@comcast.com> <15u4f.442801$_o.192990@attbi_s71> Gary, I don't suppose you've considered producing your own boards? Well, actually I mean contracting them. Buy the raw stuff and pay people to do the assembly and testing work. heck, you might even design a better one! Frank Article: 324254 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: A Good Clough-Brengle day Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 17:55:52 -0500 Hey Ron. Whats the switch on the left next to the meter on the WUEV station pic of their model 87? -- 73 and good DX. B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 324255 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Benjamaniac" Subject: Re: Radio/TV Shop Contents Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 17:15:20 -0600 Message-ID: References: "Warren Weber" wrote in message news:lsadnRMTEfKQDM_eRVn-ig@bresnan.com... > > "benjamaniac" wrote in message > news:discs7$7ljm$1@news3.infoave.net... >> This coming up Thursday, my son and I are going to a little town about >> 80 >> miles from here to look at buying the entire contents of a small closed >> up >> radio/TV repair shop that was in business from the '40's to the late >> '70's. >> Wish me luck on this one :))) >> Ben > > Ben. On some of the other buys you have made shows you are GOOD about > finding these things. Warren > I think what helps me find all these good deals is that I'm the only show in town when it comes to vintage electronics...hell...I'm the only show this side of only God knows how far on either side of me. That and I make sure to advertise, advertise, advertise. I think I'm picking up the pieces of the golden age of electronics in this area...the stuff that has been stashed around here because all the older folks here still talk about how tight things were in the Depression and they would NEVER think of throwing away things that might SOMEDAY be of use to somebody somewhere.There are still several stashes around here that I know of, but the families aren't ready to let go of them yet. Oh...the other thing that really helps is the fact that my wife was born and raised right here and she's related in someway or the other to almost everybody through blood or marriage within several hundred square miles. She is always putting the word out for me and like I said...I make sure to run ads in the paper every so often, call in on the local radio stations swap/buy/for sale type programs and generally just keep my nose to the grindstone on search and find type missions. My goal is to find, buy and stock up on everything I'll need to get me thru my retirement years. Ben Article: 324256 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: A Good Clough-Brengle day References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:39:22 GMT Brian Hill wrote: > Hey Ron. Whats the switch on the left next to the meter on the WUEV station > pic of their model 87? > Brian, I don't know for sure, but I suspect that it's a crystal switch like the one on the model 4581 C-B transmitter. I just went down to the display room and took the 87 out of the cabinet for the first time so I could give it a good look. There's never been a switch there, and the diag. only shows 1 crystal as the diag. of the 4581 shows the switch marked "Amateur" & "Official". One the one thing I'm happy about with the 87 is that unlike the 4581 it hasn't been "hamed"... No mods at all, it looks like it's exactly like the original diag. The 4581 had the transmitted/receive switch removed and a SO-239 was installed on the front panel. Maybe now that I know what the T/R switch looks like I can find one for the 4581. I wonder if anyone is still rebuilding the metal can caps? There are 4 in the power supply section of the 87. I might decide to get them redone just in case I ever want to power it up. I'm looking forward to the mail in the next day or so. My friend Bill has mailed me a package with replacements for the broken ceramic stand offs and the chipped knob. 73 Brian. Ron Article: 324257 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <1129492032.662866.46600@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mechanical Music Show Oct 23 Wayne NJ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 00:14:40 GMT Nice to see part of Wayne isnt under water....... -- Keith Keith Park Top Notch Restorations topnotch@nycap.rr.com 71 Squareback 65 Notchback "El BajaRojo" 65 Squareback "Eggcrate" 87 Golf 93 Rx7 fast enough to stay Stock! "waves" wrote in message news:1129492032.662866.46600@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > As the header states a nice phonograph show on Oct 23 at the PAL in > Wayne NJ > for more info http://wwww.anitque-sound.com > Article: 324258 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <6nj5l1h8bplp62ktlgq55l4jrgu6dpi49i@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Parts is parts Message-ID: <8pC4f.50615$Xl2.1150@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 00:39:32 GMT Metro Circuits in Rochester NY is one of them, we use them for quick turn around at GE. I hope someday when I retire maybe I can do the supplimental income thing with Radio restorations, Im doing 10-15 a year now in the winter only in my spare time but at least half of those are consoles and they DO take time. I used to think... those old sets will "run out" in a few more years.... then I went to Kutztown :-) Keith -- "Jim Adney" wrote in message news:6nj5l1h8bplp62ktlgq55l4jrgu6dpi49i@4ax.com... > On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 16:16:08 GMT "Gary Tayman" > wrote: > > >if only I could get the radios and the boards to come in at the same time! > > What boards are you waiting for? Are you having custom made PC boards > made? If so, there are very good places out there that will do these > in under a week. > > - > ----------------------------------------------- > Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org > Madison, WI 53711 USA > ----------------------------------------------- Article: 324259 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Radio/TV Shop Contents Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:02:14 GMT That and if you find a Pioneer SPEC system in the guys lounge wouldn't hurt either. (Any "puny" SXes you can negotiate with me over). "Benjamaniac" wrote in message news:diumub$8u0b$1@news3.infoave.net... > > "Warren Weber" wrote in message > news:lsadnRMTEfKQDM_eRVn-ig@bresnan.com... > > > > "benjamaniac" wrote in message > > news:discs7$7ljm$1@news3.infoave.net... > >> This coming up Thursday, my son and I are going to a little town about > >> 80 > >> miles from here to look at buying the entire contents of a small closed > >> up > >> radio/TV repair shop that was in business from the '40's to the late > >> '70's. > >> Wish me luck on this one :))) > >> Ben > > > > Ben. On some of the other buys you have made shows you are GOOD about > > finding these things. Warren > > > I think what helps me find all these good deals is that I'm the only > show in town when it comes to vintage electronics...hell...I'm the only show > this side of only God knows how far on either side of me. That and I make > sure to advertise, advertise, advertise. I think I'm picking up the pieces > of the golden age of electronics in this area...the stuff that has been > stashed around here because all the older folks here still talk about how > tight things were in the Depression and they would NEVER think of throwing > away things that might SOMEDAY be of use to somebody somewhere.There are > still several stashes around here that I know of, but the families aren't > ready to let go of them yet. Oh...the other thing that really helps is the > fact that my wife was born and raised right here and she's related in > someway or the other to almost everybody through blood or marriage within > several hundred square miles. She is always putting the word out for me and > like I said...I make sure to run ads in the paper every so often, call in on > the local radio stations swap/buy/for sale type programs and generally just > keep my nose to the grindstone on search and find type missions. My goal is > to find, buy and stock up on everything I'll need to get me thru my > retirement years. > Ben > > Article: 324260 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129492032.662866.46600@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mechanical Music Show Oct 23 Wayne NJ Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 01:04:16 GMT Somebodies drain pipe broke up there... "Keith Park" wrote in message news:Q1C4f.50614$Xl2.29802@twister.nyroc.rr.com... > Nice to see part of Wayne isnt under water....... > > -- > > Keith > > Keith Park > > Top Notch Restorations > topnotch@nycap.rr.com > 71 Squareback > 65 Notchback "El BajaRojo" > 65 Squareback "Eggcrate" > 87 Golf > 93 Rx7 fast enough to stay Stock! > > "waves" wrote in message > news:1129492032.662866.46600@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > As the header states a nice phonograph show on Oct 23 at the PAL in > > Wayne NJ > > for more info http://wwww.anitque-sound.com > > > > Article: 324261 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <0-ydnZzrxMazzszeRVn-qw@comcast.com> <15u4f.442801$_o.192990@attbi_s71> <11l5lq7k1t56k59@news.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Parts is parts Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:30:36 GMT I'll tell you what -- if someone can come up with a decent FM board I'm very interested. AAR used to make a very nice FM board. It went inside the original radio. It connected to the antenna, to the AM oscillator coil, and to the volume control. Through a relay and timer, it would switch bands by turning the radio odd and back on. The FM would pick up stations from the antenna, tuning was based on the LO frequency, and audio would go into the volume control. People who own Mustangs, GTO's, Corvettes, etc., are customers for conversion, but older 6 volt cars generally do better with the original radio and an FM board -- and it's about half the price of a conversion. A few years ago AAR ran out of parts, and designed a new board but it had bugs. Since I was only one of two dealers in the world who was still buying them, they decided it wasn't worth it and scrapped the project. Yes, it cost me a lot of money . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message news:11l5lq7k1t56k59@news.supernews.com... > Gary, I don't suppose you've considered producing your own boards? Well, > actually I mean contracting them. Buy the raw stuff and pay people to do > the assembly and testing work. > > heck, you might even design a better one! > > Frank > Article: 324262 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <0-ydnZzrxMazzszeRVn-qw@comcast.com> <15u4f.442801$_o.192990@attbi_s71> <11l5lq7k1t56k59@news.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Parts is parts Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:38:11 GMT Somebody I know named Chris Cuff would've loved such a project, but when he saw his parents needs were getting to be more pressing, he retreated from designing AM stereo and RF based products and he's possibly a little reclusive now. An engineering genius otherwise. Have you determined what local HD radio could do to your hybrid in the way of interference, or is this a little more safe from byproducts? "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:g1E4f.2497$4O1.280@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > I'll tell you what -- if someone can come up with a decent FM board I'm very > interested. AAR used to make a very nice FM board. It went inside the > original radio. It connected to the antenna, to the AM oscillator coil, and > to the volume control. Through a relay and timer, it would switch bands by > turning the radio odd and back on. The FM would pick up stations from the > antenna, tuning was based on the LO frequency, and audio would go into the > volume control. People who own Mustangs, GTO's, Corvettes, etc., are > customers for conversion, but older 6 volt cars generally do better with the > original radio and an FM board -- and it's about half the price of a > conversion. A few years ago AAR ran out of parts, and designed a new board > but it had bugs. Since I was only one of two dealers in the world who was > still buying them, they decided it wasn't worth it and scrapped the project. > Yes, it cost me a lot of money . . . > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > > "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message > news:11l5lq7k1t56k59@news.supernews.com... > > Gary, I don't suppose you've considered producing your own boards? Well, > > actually I mean contracting them. Buy the raw stuff and pay people to do > > the assembly and testing work. > > > > heck, you might even design a better one! > > > > Frank > > > > Article: 324263 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <0-ydnZzrxMazzszeRVn-qw@comcast.com> <15u4f.442801$_o.192990@attbi_s71> <76A4f.439611$x96.398431@attbi_s72> Subject: Re: Parts is parts Message-ID: <1qE4f.1726$fc7.126@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:57:01 GMT For me right now it IS the only source of income. I was working at Danka, but I've been getting very discouraged for some time and wanted to go into business for myself. I was hoping to do it this fall, but was laid off last spring -- so I said phooey and jumped into it then. IF -- I havw a pile of car radios in this corner, and a pile of stereo boards in the other corner, I have the ability to make at least three times what I was making at Danka. In fact it has happened, in between the excuses. Since this nonsense has been going on for some time, my biggest concern about doing this has been the ability to do something else -- another product or service that I can fall back on WHEN the stereo boards are back-ordered or they lay an egg in some other respect. This way when I'm stuck for parts, I can do other things and still pay the bills. I tried clock conversions, that didn't work out (those guys are TERRIBLE with dealers); I've set up the website to sell Custom Autosound stereos -- I sell lots of DVC speakers, but stereos go maybe one every other month. When I went full time I began offering repairs on car radios -- I've done a few but it takes awhile to reestablish myself. So now I'm looking at home radios. Even one or two is a help, and it seems like it can't hurt. But assuming in a couple more months I have plenty of stereos, plenty of car radio repairs, and several home radios; will the extra space and need for stock parts be a detriment? I'm leaning toward offering service for original radios FOR THE TIME BEING, meaning if I run into big problems I can always turn it off if necessary. However if customers are patient, I can get the parts I need, and I don't have to store them in the back yard, it can be an asset to the business as a whole. I'll be talking with people this week, and should get a handle on what the market is like in this area. If there's a need, and I'm sitting here twiddling thumbs, I may as well get busy. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:76A4f.439611$x96.398431@attbi_s72... > In article , > gtayman@gate.net says... >> >> >>More and more I'm thinking home radios are the way to >>go. I'll keep doing the other things, but if I can't get what I need >>it'll >>be their loss and not mine. >>Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > > well for us its much more Home Radios... in fact you should be getting > at least a few auto radio conversions from people I talked to at the > last show.... week long one over labor day.... several people after > talking > to them about what type of radio and what type of car.... have U converted > car from 6 volts to 12 volts negative ground etc.... after they > have answered those questions then I either lead them to rebuild the > existing > radio.... or ship the critter to you for conversion .... any that > converted > to 12 volts should definitely in my opinion get radio conversion... > > besides all I ship to you are ones I don't have to do!... > > The other side of this... same for me as for Mark Oppat.... this ain't > the only source of income we have.... I don't think I could really make > sizable income rebuilding old radios.... for us its more of a supplement > to income... and we probably spend more on buying other radios we want > than what we really make at it... > > John k9uwa > Article: 324264 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" Subject: Get out your checkbooks! Message-ID: <8mF4f.7728$lN2.2770@fe04.lga> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 23:01:10 -0500 I wonder if this will sell? It is rare allright. http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-DeFOREST-RJ-4-Radio_W0QQitemZ6569773712QQcategoryZ38033QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem -- 73 and good DX. B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 324265 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Shawn K Subject: Re: Get out your checkbooks! References: <8mF4f.7728$lN2.2770@fe04.lga> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 04:06:14 GMT Yeah, I saw that too, I wonder what the ebay charges would be on that one? Notice that he says that he is open to offers, that way he can cancel the sale and maybe get out of some of those fees?? Brian Hill wrote: > I wonder if this will sell? It is rare allright. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-DeFOREST-RJ-4-Radio_W0QQitemZ6569773712QQcategoryZ38033QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > -- Shawn K www.thisoldradio.com Article: 324266 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Parts is parts Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 20:51:01 -0700 Message-ID: References: Jim Barnard wrote: > However, it is becoming harder and more expensive to find "parts" radios on > Ebay. When I run across a "parts" set, I never throw anything away. Over the > past few years, it has been amazing how much good can come from one > "volunteer" radio. > The solution for this problem is to use the larger Zenith portables (the ones with the fake leather cases and carrying handles) as a parts source for the handheld sets. These radios are still plentiful and fairly cheap. This doesn't solve the problem of where to get battery holders and speakers (which are notoriously difficult to find in good condition), but most of the other parts are at least somewhat interchangable. -Scott Article: 324267 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Mechanical Music Show Oct 23 Wayne NJ References: <1129492032.662866.46600@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 04:11:54 GMT Steven Dinius_ wrote: > Somebodies drain pipe broke up there... And look what floated out of it. Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 324268 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Saul Rabinowitz Subject: Shortwave Directory Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 04:20:57 GMT I found this and it was too good not to share. This is a directory of all English-language shortwave broadcasts in the world. http://www.odxa.on.ca/WES.pdf It's in .pdf format. Enjoy! Saul Article: 324269 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129492032.662866.46600@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mechanical Music Show Oct 23 Wayne NJ Message-ID: <_UF4f.444$Xj4.66700@monger.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 04:38:18 GMT I can't see the East Coast, Ken "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:ewF4f.1075$Hs.329@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > > Somebodies drain pipe broke up there... > > And look what floated out of it. > > Jeff > > -- > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 324270 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Shortwave Directory Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 04:41:22 GMT I'm happy to say my Sony boombox is now receiving SW on both bands without my ever touching it, so maybe it's the location of ?? Time to try the Hallicrafters out, now that I've moved. "Saul Rabinowitz" wrote in message news:JEF4f.2715$Aw.51050@typhoon.sonic.net... > I found this and it was too good not to share. > > This is a directory of all English-language shortwave broadcasts in the > world. > > http://www.odxa.on.ca/WES.pdf > > It's in .pdf format. > > Enjoy! > > Saul Article: 324271 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129492032.662866.46600@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <_UF4f.444$Xj4.66700@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: Mechanical Music Show Oct 23 Wayne NJ Message-ID: <_2G4f.448$Xj4.66726@monger.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 04:48:58 GMT PS Jeffery, you said you gave up. Prove you have character and resume that. "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message news:_UF4f.444$Xj4.66700@monger.newsread.com... > I can't see the East Coast, Ken > > "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message > news:ewF4f.1075$Hs.329@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > > > > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > > > > Somebodies drain pipe broke up there... > > > > And look what floated out of it. > > > > Jeff > > > > -- > > RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to > > the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal > > force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED > > under the Internal Security Act of 1950. > > Article: 324272 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <1129443632.93d15ef9cd3258845edaa493da24b0ff@teranews> <1234-43527C00-172@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> <1129495682.08e304d9658d34e3f39d720898166797@teranews> <1129497041.6ae651dfa8836587d64edc2d0f2f8ca3@teranews> Subject: Re: packard bell console question Message-ID: <1129525847.6a4f6fe60c87414aeb5bbe634e18744f@teranews> Date: Sun, 16 Oct 2005 22:10:27 -0700 I think you are right - but that is pretty odd - I suppose the recorder only works at 78, and the other one may have other speeds. The schematic is really weird too, that is the pickoff with the RC network for? I've never seen that before. Oh, and since I'll be teacning my daughter to recap this thing (it's hers, afterall), what is the preferred kind of cap? Metalized mylar? or ??? > > If you look at the schematic it shows two turntables. One is the recorder > the other is an automatic player. > > Regards, > > Bill Cohn Article: 324273 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Pilot, one of the best tombstones ever Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 05:43:40 GMT I should hope it would fetch at least 60 pounds...a lot nicer than just 10. "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:cYOdncLhm_Kqss7eRVn-hg@comcast.com... > Pilot made some super high end tombstones... Bill Moore is the expert in > this brand... anyways, here is one on eBay... > > http://cgi.ebay.com/PILOT-RADIO-MODEL-U650_W0QQitemZ6570463120QQcategoryZ933QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > drool. > > Mark Oppat > > > Article: 324274 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "MIT" References: <8mF4f.7728$lN2.2770@fe04.lga> Subject: Re: Get out your checkbooks! Message-ID: <6NH4f.2837$q%.1505@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 06:46:26 GMT its about 40k too much for a battery box mit "Brian Hill" wrote in message news:8mF4f.7728$lN2.2770@fe04.lga... |I wonder if this will sell? It is rare allright. | | http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-DeFOREST-RJ-4-Radio_W0QQitemZ6569773712QQcategoryZ38033QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem | | | -- | 73 and good DX. B.H. | Brian's Radio Universe | http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm | | Article: 324275 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Me Subject: Free: Radiotron Designer's Handbook, 4th Edition Message-ID: <1129534614.96f044d73ec1bb759f1d92db7878065b@teranews> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 00:36:15 -0700 http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3397758 Article: 324276 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129534614.96f044d73ec1bb759f1d92db7878065b@teranews> Subject: Re: Radiotron Designer's Handbook, 4th Edition Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:58:47 GMT There ain't no such girls to meet in Ontario, Oregon either...getting tired of that stupid ad. "Me" wrote in message news:1129534614.96f044d73ec1bb759f1d92db7878065b@teranews... > > http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3397758 > Article: 324277 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <43520cd8$0$252$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <082dnT7NlftVhs7eRVn-iQ@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Parts is parts Message-ID: <7cK4f.2565$4O1.545@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:31:47 GMT My typical bill for car radio service is $150-250. Home radios don't have vibrators so we're $30 better right off the bat. I would say most of the labor time is in doing recaps, and in most cases the home radios shine in this department -- compared to cars. Some of you complainers should try recapping a Zenith Radionic. Regarding test equipment, a lot of you have variacs and isolation transformers, while I have a big fat 0-15v power supply. In the how-did-I-live-without-it department, I recently picked up a high voltage power supply. To test a radio I remove the vibrator and rectifier, connect this supply to the rectifier output, and apply power. Since power supplies are always bad, I can check the rest of the radio easily without getting too far involved in rebuilding. I would think I could do the same with home sets. Yes I've got an isolation transformer; I'll have to dust it off. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:082dnT7NlftVhs7eRVn-iQ@comcast.com... > Gary, > I would say the home radio customers are more patient (the majority of my > customers say "its been in the basement for years" or "we just got it from > grandma's estate" or something. I have taken to telling them 3 mos > turnaround, and usually beat it, then they are happier. > > HOWEVER, the usual customer will not spend more than $250 on a home > console > radio repair, often including grille cloth, so I would say you can make a > LOT more doing car radios. I do some restorations that run up to $500 > range > but they are rare. Got a Scott 800B in here now that may get up there... > bad FM trimmers! > > So, its a trade off. Basically, the longer you do this the better you > get. > You learn all the tricks... and, where to get stuff you need... > with you having the radio service background, moving into home radios will > not be super hard, but it will indeed be a learning curve. The majority > of > my repairs are Zenith and Philco consoles, 1937-1942. In the last 7 > years, > I have begun doing more and more phonos, up to about 1975. Lots of > gummed > up motors and reject cams, bad idlers, etc. BSR, VM, Colleros... > > Mark Oppat > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:kYq4f.1335$fc7.67@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> In response to all of these messages, yes indeed I'm sure I'll be making > use >> of your parts stocks. By the way, with the car radios it seems the >> interchangeability of parts is low. Every make, model, and year car has > its >> own radio with its own parts, and if you pull an IF out of one you'll be >> hard pressed to find another radio that takes the same IF. The one make >> that's bad for IF's is Bendix. They put wafers inside the plastic base >> of >> the IF's for caps, and they corrode and become intermittent. I've heard > of >> people repairing these by carefully cutting into the base with a Dremel > tool >> and adding a cap underneath, but I have yet to be successful. These > radios >> also have trimmers with silver mica disease. I've seen these radios come >> from junkyards; between the IF's, the trimmers, and the cheap >> splash-soldered PCB's, these things snap, crackle, and pop, reception >> cuts >> in and out, and I've spent boo-koo hours on these to no avail. When I >> receive one like this I recommend a conversion. >> >> In any case, bear in mind that I'm building a stock of car radio parts -- >> and indeed have a boneyard in the garage that I often pick from. If any > of >> you have needs for car radio parts, bear in mind I might have it. >> >> As for the waiting, I would expect home radio owners to be more patient. >> With cars I get both types; some are doing restorations that may take > years, >> while others want me to finish it today and overnight it back so they can >> have it installed for Friday's car show. I've tried to be quick with >> conversions, and have told service customers that no turnaround can be >> guaranteed as the radios are 50-70 years old. Car radios can stack up > some >> and not hurt anything; I figure home radios can stack up a LOT and not > hurt >> anything. With such a cushion the income can be a lot more steady. >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> >> "CalBubba" wrote in message >> news:43520cd8$0$252$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com... >> > Gary Tayman wrote: >> >> To those dealers who specialize in repairing/restoring old home radios > . >> >> . . >> >> >> >> As you know, I have been running a business related to car radios. >> >> The >> >> main thrust has been conversions -- converting car radios to modern >> >> stereo without changing appearance. These have been highly >> >> profitable, >> >> sort of -- if only I could get the radios and the boards to come in >> >> at >> >> the same time! Every time I get a surge of radios the boards are >> >> back-ordered, and I receive them at a pace that almost allows me to >> >> pay >> >> my bills. Even when I place orders two months in advance, I STILL >> >> have >> >> to wait at times! >> >> >> > >> > Someone who used to be active in this group once told me that he was >> > successful with having his customers wait for things. He convinced them > of >> > the value and especially the quality and care that he would provide for >> > them, and they'd be contented to wait for quite some time, knowing that >> > they would be satisfied and taken care of well. >> > >> > With autos, it's not as easy. For one thing, some of these cars >> > probably >> > have aftermarket A/C units that block the radio, so while they wait, > their >> > A/Cs may be apart as well. But this may be worth feeling out with each >> > party. >> > >> > I'd stress the uniqueness of your service (and it _is_ unique), and >> > that >> > the work that you do is very customized, requiring the coordination of >> > modification work as well as parts that aren't so easy to come by any >> > more. Stress the custom and restoration aspects. You want your >> > customers >> > to be thrilled with what you'll pull off for them. I think that this >> > can >> > go a long way, and it'll provide you with some breathing room in which > to >> > coordinate the aspects of each job. >> > >> > Bubba >> >> >> > > > Article: 324278 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <0-ydnZzrxMazzszeRVn-qw@comcast.com> <15u4f.442801$_o.192990@attbi_s71> <11l5lq7k1t56k59@news.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Parts is parts Message-ID: <%RM4f.7772$hY6.3947@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 12:32:59 GMT Actually, there IS something that I'd like to build myself. AAR used to make something called a mono-7 amp. This is a very simple design, and I seriously doubt if there's anything proprietary about it. It was a very basic audio amp that used a 5 pin IC and a few related components. If the original audio amp in a car radio was bad, and either needed a special impossible-to-find transformer or for some other reason could not be fixed, this little power amp could be mounted with one screw (heat sinking the IC) and would easily fit inside the case. In terms of performance, in most cases you couldn't tell the difference -- I've even used these in early stereos, and it was a close match. I've seen a couple of "beginner's kits" that are almost the same thing, but not quite up to snuff. This outputs 7 watts RMS, and is on a very small PCB. I've got a drawing -- from the top, but not the component values or the foil pattern. I wish I had one; or at least knew what IC was used. At worst I think I've got a Radio Shack book around here that shows something very similar -- but if anyone out there has a drawing, I'd be interested in seeing it. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message news:n8E4f.443$Xj4.65956@monger.newsread.com... > Somebody I know named Chris Cuff would've loved such a project, but when > he > saw his parents needs were getting to be more pressing, he retreated from > designing AM stereo and RF based products and he's possibly a little > reclusive now. An engineering genius otherwise. > > Have you determined what local HD radio could do to your hybrid in the way > of interference, or is this a little more safe from byproducts? > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:g1E4f.2497$4O1.280@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> I'll tell you what -- if someone can come up with a decent FM board I'm > very >> interested. AAR used to make a very nice FM board. It went inside the >> original radio. It connected to the antenna, to the AM oscillator coil, > and >> to the volume control. Through a relay and timer, it would switch bands > by >> turning the radio odd and back on. The FM would pick up stations from >> the >> antenna, tuning was based on the LO frequency, and audio would go into >> the >> volume control. People who own Mustangs, GTO's, Corvettes, etc., are >> customers for conversion, but older 6 volt cars generally do better with > the >> original radio and an FM board -- and it's about half the price of a >> conversion. A few years ago AAR ran out of parts, and designed a new > board >> but it had bugs. Since I was only one of two dealers in the world who >> was >> still buying them, they decided it wasn't worth it and scrapped the > project. >> Yes, it cost me a lot of money . . . >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> >> >> "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message >> news:11l5lq7k1t56k59@news.supernews.com... >> > Gary, I don't suppose you've considered producing your own boards? > Well, >> > actually I mean contracting them. Buy the raw stuff and pay people to > do >> > the assembly and testing work. >> > >> > heck, you might even design a better one! >> > >> > Frank >> > >> >> > > Article: 324279 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: FA Midwest 18 tuber console..not mine Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 06:39:19 -0600 Message-ID: <25040-43539B77-69@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <1129550619.453509.59650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> I never seen a midwest in my hands . What seems to be the problems ? BTW some of HF tools are real good Article: 324280 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: <1129550619.453509.59650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FA Midwest 18 tuber console..not mine Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 07:52:41 -0500 "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1129550619.453509.59650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > midwest is to radios, that which harbour freight is to tools. > They had some of the best looking radios. Every bit as nice as Zenith. -- 73 and good DX. B.H. Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 324281 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 08:55:24 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: FA Midwest 18 tuber console..not mine References: <1129550619.453509.59650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <241d8$43539f3f$4232bd1e$31561@COQUI.NET> Eddie Brimer wrote: > midwest is to radios, that which harbour freight is to tools. > I don't find that to be true. -Bill (16-tuber owner) Article: 324282 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Larry Fowkes" References: <1129550619.453509.59650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <241d8$43539f3f$4232bd1e$31561@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: FA Midwest 18 tuber console..not mine Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 09:14:03 -0400 Message-ID: <4353a4d3$0$14237$2c56edd9@news.cablerocket.com> "Bill" wrote in message news:241d8$43539f3f$4232bd1e$31561@COQUI.NET... > Eddie Brimer wrote: > > midwest is to radios, that which harbour freight is to tools. > > > > > I don't find that to be true. > -Bill (16-tuber owner) Midwest's prices were certainly far lower then most of the comparable consoles. I saw a copy of a Midwest add from 1937 that shows an 18 tube console for $59.50 mail order, however in very small print it states that the tubes are not included. 18 tubes would certainly add a fair amount to the purchase price. I wonder if they caught some people off guard. Larry Fowkes Article: 324283 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <7JidnY8v4KETis7eRVn-hg@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Zenith Cobra-Matic R/P ?? Message-ID: <0DN4f.5708$hx.4025@trndny08> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 13:25:16 GMT There were some jukeboxes that used the Cobra cartridge, which has not helped the supply/price problem. The "either/or" problem was "solved" by Zenith, in some cases, by putting two arms on the turntable-one for 78 and one for microgroove. There were also dual needle Cobra cartridges, which the needles emerging at different angles. Shifting the position of the cartridge allowed the correct needle to engage the record. I recently restored an early Zenith Cobra countertop demonstrator, which has a single-play 78 RPM turntable that was actually a stripped down version of the changer. I had to part out a changer from a junker in the process. What I discovered from this effort: The bushings for the turntable shaft wear out so the turntable wobbles and vibrates severely as it turns. A less-than-perfect idler wheel exacerbates this problem. The bushings can't easily be replaced (but it can be done). In the turntable I dismantled, it is impossible to remove the turntable (to get to the idler wheel or motor mounts) without cutting down the end of the turntable shaft. So, to replace the idler wheel, you would have been forced replace the turntable as well. A piss poor design, in my opinion, that should never have been released (I assume they fixed this later on). The cartridges have an internal rubber damping block, many of which have turned rock hard over the years. Most of the cartridges will have this problem, and have low output as a result. In some cases, the damping block will also be found to have warped, forcing the needle out of the correct position. It is possible to break the damping block loose to increase the output, but then the needle has too much compliance, so it won't tolerate anything but a nearly perfect record. This problem afflicts some NOS cartridges as well (if they weren't stored in the optimum conditions over the years). Theoretically, it is possible to open up the cartridge to replace the block. The earliest Cobra systems are unique. The cartridge actually is a tiny inductor. The needle is attached to a metal disc which alters the inductance as it vibrates. This is used to frequency modulate an RF oscillator, which then feeds into a detector which produces the audio signal that is then fed to the audio amplifier. Some of these units had a separate shock-mounted subchassis for the oscillator/detector tube. Others had this circuitry on the main chassis. The nice thing about this system is that the cartridge and arm assembly is extremely light, and the system isn't prone to hum pickup. They abandoned this system fairly quickly, so the later Cobra cartridges are ceramic, IIRC. If you don't care about originality, the best bet is to scrap the original cartridge and mount, and put a small ceramic cartridge in there, and run the output directly into the amplifier. You could also retrofit the later style Cobra cartridge (which aren't as expensive as the early ones). Physically, the cartridges aren't the same, so you would have to swap the cartridge mount as well. I don't know whether there are any equalization issues though. -- Mike Schultz "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:7JidnY8v4KETis7eRVn-hg@comcast.com... > The turntables are not bad, the cartridges are very hard to find now. > there > are 3 or more kinds. Red, Red/Green and Green. one is for 78 only, the > next is a "compromise 2mil tip" for either 78 or LP/45, and the last is > for > 33/45 only. Since this system was not designed to offer two tips, it has > the limitation of being an "either or" setup. The needle is integral to > the > cart, so a higher demand of replacement was created years ago.. They are > not > crystal as far as I know, but do go bad anyway. I have some of the > red/green carts left, I think, $30 ea. > > There was another later cart, similar but not interchangable, also was a > proprietary Zenith part IIRC. > > Mark Oppat > > > "Blacksmith" wrote in message > news:un36l1hrefmak3ntl8k41g8ihf56uut3e0@4ax.com... >> Do Zenith Cobra-Matic turntables use the old crystal cartridge that >> turns to mush? >> >> Are the record players quality made or are they not worth messing >> with? >> .... >> Blacksmith >> >> >> >> ... >> Radio Literature on disc. >> 136 issues (11 years) of SERVICE magazines on CD or DVD. >> 175 issues of RADIO RETAILING magazines on CD or DVD. >> Very early NRI home-study radio courses on CD. >> Mallory Encyclopedia on CD. >> Record Changers & Recorders by Rider (1941) on CD. >> Radio Troubleshooter's Handbook >> -- renovatedradiosdotcom -- >> > > > Article: 324284 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: THE CAPEHART SOLD... Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 11:13:41 -0400 Message-ID: <11l7fta4lkbnq56@corp.supernews.com> References: <9Wt4f.17072$fE5.2647@fed1read06> Brian Hill wrote: > > > I sometimes think the problem with some folks marriges are that they didn't > marry their best freind which should be their wives In practical fact however best friends never generally want to marry you. Now women who would HATE to live with me, THEY are interested. Love flees practicality and common sense. Many people, women especially, cannot identify romance except as it pertains to overcoming huge barriers and conflicts. It is amazing the divorce rate is so low, only like 40%. It's like driving- it's incredible how few people are killed on our highways. I'm almost killed yearly. John H. Article: 324285 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Radio/TV Shop Contents References: <7512-4351D3C8-474@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1129562629.177060.69860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 10:58:29 -0500 toxcrusadr wrote: > Even if he is a crackpot, that's just mean, Ken. If you can't say > something positive... > No, it's not - it's a well earned and justified response. >from the corner... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 324286 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4353CCE8.8357854A@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Buffer caps References: <0CS2f.1510$y14.1032@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:09:16 GMT Rune wrote: > > I haven't thought about buffers in decades but everybody used to make a big > deal about "regular" caps not being good enough. If you look at how a buffer capacitor is used, you will see that it has to be able to carry a lot more AC than a normal film capacitor. Old paper capacitors were not made to handle that current. The way the leads were attached to the foils limited the current they could carry, and may have used thinner foil, as well. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 324287 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <0-ydnZzrxMazzszeRVn-qw@comcast.com> <15u4f.442801$_o.192990@attbi_s71> <11l5lq7k1t56k59@news.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Parts is parts Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:10:00 GMT Nothing's ever really "gone" with semis, they change the names to protect the diligent. "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:J%M4f.1812$fc7.859@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > Something that I DID find, while searching for various things, are some FM > boards. > > I have one "good" one, two of the new-style boards that didn't work out, and > two older versions that I know very little about. To the best of my > knowledge these are all in good condition; they came from customers who > later decided to convert to stereo. > > I've basically been saving them for a rainy day. Maybe if I get into a > tinkering mood I might install one in one of my home radios; if someone > wants to reverse-engineer one of these, remember the "good" one is no longer > made because it used specialized IC's which are gone. > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > > "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message > news:n8E4f.443$Xj4.65956@monger.newsread.com... > > Somebody I know named Chris Cuff would've loved such a project, but when > > he > > saw his parents needs were getting to be more pressing, he retreated from > > designing AM stereo and RF based products and he's possibly a little > > reclusive now. An engineering genius otherwise. > > > > Have you determined what local HD radio could do to your hybrid in the way > > of interference, or is this a little more safe from byproducts? > > > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > > news:g1E4f.2497$4O1.280@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... > >> I'll tell you what -- if someone can come up with a decent FM board I'm > > very > >> interested. AAR used to make a very nice FM board. It went inside the > >> original radio. It connected to the antenna, to the AM oscillator coil, > > and > >> to the volume control. Through a relay and timer, it would switch bands > > by > >> turning the radio odd and back on. The FM would pick up stations from > >> the > >> antenna, tuning was based on the LO frequency, and audio would go into > >> the > >> volume control. People who own Mustangs, GTO's, Corvettes, etc., are > >> customers for conversion, but older 6 volt cars generally do better with > > the > >> original radio and an FM board -- and it's about half the price of a > >> conversion. A few years ago AAR ran out of parts, and designed a new > > board > >> but it had bugs. Since I was only one of two dealers in the world who > >> was > >> still buying them, they decided it wasn't worth it and scrapped the > > project. > >> Yes, it cost me a lot of money . . . > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com > >> > >> > >> > >> "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message > >> news:11l5lq7k1t56k59@news.supernews.com... > >> > Gary, I don't suppose you've considered producing your own boards? > > Well, > >> > actually I mean contracting them. Buy the raw stuff and pay people to > > do > >> > the assembly and testing work. > >> > > >> > heck, you might even design a better one! > >> > > >> > Frank > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > > Article: 324288 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4353CDA8.509EBD51@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Sarasota Swap Meet -- still 6 weeks away but we're working hard References: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:12:28 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > > I'm bringing this up because we've had a few threads recently about the > future of swap meets. > > Years ago the Florida chapter of the AWA hosted swap meets in a high school > in Bradenton. Without getting into details the club folded, and a few of us > got together and formed the Sarasota Antique Radio Club, hosting swap meets > three times a year in Sarasota. Although these have been fun and friendly > meets, attendance has dwindled -- and I believe the one this past August was > the worst attended ever with only a few tables taken. > > There has been talk of the hobby dying, of losing interest, of supplies and > radios drying up. I say hogwash! Look at eBay; look at the meets in > Kutztown, Michigan, and other places, and just look at the activitiy right > here at RAR&P (BTW, I've noticed the bickering has subsided and this NG has > been very enjoyable lately -- thank you!). I honestly believe Florida is > one of the hobby capitals of the world, with the population of retirees, > snowbirds, and tourists we have, not to mention the outstanding ground plane > we have for radio interests! So why has the swap meet been so poorly > attended? I believe there are two reasons. First, most people don't even > know it exists! Second, some who have attended have been disappointed and > have not returned. > > SO -- with lagging performance in such a fertile area, I've taken it on to > do something about it! For starters I've simply mentioned what I'm doing to > various merchants, and with just word-of-mouth I've already got four new > dealers committed! I've written up a new flyer, and yesterday we had a > meeting and approved it. During the next few weeks I intend to get these > flyers passed out in a BIG way, blanketing them to electronics dealers, > radio stations (not for air but for interest of the employees), newspapers, > and antique dealers in Sarasota, Bradenton, Venice, and Arcadia. > > Since many of the new visitors may not be there to buy tube sockets, I'm > trying to make this a display as well as a swap meet. The first time we > added the word "show" we had about a dozen radios on display; in August > there was only one -- mine, which was a Crosley clock/radio that was nice, > but hardly interesting. THIS TIME we'll be encouraging radios for display, > as a voter's choice trophy will be awarded to the best radio by popular > vote. > > We will also have tube testers available for use by patrons, along with a > 50-50 and door prize(s) hopefully with an "s". > > Bottom line is this: I'm doing my part to kick in the afterburners. With > any luck this meet will soon become a far cry from what it has been in the > past -- but hopefully continuing with the same fun and fellowship. > > Stay tuned! > > -- > Gary E. Tayman I wish I could still drive that far, Gary. I would love to come and see who and what is there. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 324289 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <7512-4351D3C8-474@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1129562629.177060.69860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Radio/TV Shop Contents Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:31:52 GMT I'm not a crackpot, just can't get my hands on a signal genereator on eBay for the kinds of prices they get. And my beloved 5050 blew the 5A amplifier fuses without harming the mains fuse. I replaced them and powered up before replacing the lid, at which time all FIVE went one by one, each of the 5A first, then one 150mA, the 2A and the other 150mA. Two just lit up a brief while before melting. It was surreal and I just sat there sick watching and unplugged it. It doesn't bug anything else, but I've lost two vintage receivers on that very outlet, so I guess I need to check that line (even though I believe the other is on the same line and I have no such troubles). That was my favorite receiver and I had a lot of money into it in over four years. If I had a surge like that I would hope the breaker on my strip would've shut down, but the Zenith Circle of Sound never misses a beat. I do need to align a few sets, you know, and my goal is to get things OUT, not hoard them. I learn something fromit and use it, then it moves on for the most part. "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1129562629.177060.69860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroupse.com... > Even if he is a crackpot, that's just mean, Ken. If you can't say > something positive... > Article: 324290 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <9Wt4f.17072$fE5.2647@fed1read06> <11l7fta4lkbnq56@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: THE CAPEHART SOLD... Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:36:32 GMT "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11l7fta4lkbnq56@corp.supernews.com... > It's like driving- it's incredible how few people are killed on our > highways. I'm almost killed yearly. > > John H. Humans have about a 190 degree field of vision, 3 mirrors, and they just BACK UP. Up to three times a week I'm the target of a driver (((WHO CAN'T SEE OR HEAR ME UNLESS I PRACTICALLY DENT THE CAR))) I'm a pedestrian is those cases. Oh, what the hell anyway... Article: 324291 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <4353CDA8.509EBD51@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Sarasota Swap Meet -- still 6 weeks away but we're working hard Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:38:42 GMT How much is bus fare two-way? There's no reason he shouldn't go! I'd chip 10 in for that myself. "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:4353CDA8.509EBD51@earthlink.net... > Gary Tayman wrote: > > > > I'm bringing this up because we've had a few threads recently about the > > future of swap meets. > > > > Years ago the Florida chapter of the AWA hosted swap meets in a high school > > in Bradenton. Without getting into details the club folded, and a few of us > > got together and formed the Sarasota Antique Radio Club, hosting swap meets > > three times a year in Sarasota. Although these have been fun and friendly > > meets, attendance has dwindled -- and I believe the one this past August was > > the worst attended ever with only a few tables taken. > > > > There has been talk of the hobby dying, of losing interest, of supplies and > > radios drying up. I say hogwash! Look at eBay; look at the meets in > > Kutztown, Michigan, and other places, and just look at the activitiy right > > here at RAR&P (BTW, I've noticed the bickering has subsided and this NG has > > been very enjoyable lately -- thank you!). I honestly believe Florida is > > one of the hobby capitals of the world, with the population of retirees, > > snowbirds, and tourists we have, not to mention the outstanding ground plane > > we have for radio interests! So why has the swap meet been so poorly > > attended? I believe there are two reasons. First, most people don't even > > know it exists! Second, some who have attended have been disappointed and > > have not returned. > > > > SO -- with lagging performance in such a fertile area, I've taken it on to > > do something about it! For starters I've simply mentioned what I'm doing to > > various merchants, and with just word-of-mouth I've already got four new > > dealers committed! I've written up a new flyer, and yesterday we had a > > meeting and approved it. During the next few weeks I intend to get these > > flyers passed out in a BIG way, blanketing them to electronics dealers, > > radio stations (not for air but for interest of the employees), newspapers, > > and antique dealers in Sarasota, Bradenton, Venice, and Arcadia. > > > > Since many of the new visitors may not be there to buy tube sockets, I'm > > trying to make this a display as well as a swap meet. The first time we > > added the word "show" we had about a dozen radios on display; in August > > there was only one -- mine, which was a Crosley clock/radio that was nice, > > but hardly interesting. THIS TIME we'll be encouraging radios for display, > > as a voter's choice trophy will be awarded to the best radio by popular > > vote. > > > > We will also have tube testers available for use by patrons, along with a > > 50-50 and door prize(s) hopefully with an "s". > > > > Bottom line is this: I'm doing my part to kick in the afterburners. With > > any luck this meet will soon become a far cry from what it has been in the > > past -- but hopefully continuing with the same fun and fellowship. > > > > Stay tuned! > > > > -- > > Gary E. Tayman > > > I wish I could still drive that far, Gary. I would love to come and > see who and what is there. > > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 324292 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <7512-4351D3C8-474@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1129562629.177060.69860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Radio/TV Shop Contents Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:41:27 GMT A conditioned response, and we're shutting this crap down now. "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message news:MQP4f.22231$Yl.17142@bignews4.bellsouth.net... > toxcrusadr wrote: > > Even if he is a crackpot, that's just mean, Ken. If you can't say > > something positive... > > > > No, it's not - it's a well earned and justified response. > > from the corner... > -- > randy guttery > > A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews > so vital to the United States Silent Service: > http://tendertale.com Article: 324293 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4353D52A.3C2891BE@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: THE CAPEHART SOLD... References: <1129563990.050260.169780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:44:30 GMT Jiri Placek wrote: > > My steal this week was a free Capehart console, not only with > non-potmetal gramophone chassis but also with an 8-track player. All > solid state however :o( Will save the speakers and and dispose the > rest I guess. > > That makes me wonder - how long was the Capehart brand sold and when > its demise started? > > Jiri Placek > Boyertown, PA When they started selling 8 tracks. :( -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 324294 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <8mF4f.7728$lN2.2770@fe04.lga> <6NH4f.2837$q%.1505@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com> Subject: Re: Get out your checkbooks! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:06:26 GMT Somebody could be really disappointed with their own fantasies, this english341. Hey, why does this guy hve to yammer about cleaning it up, sending it to the Smithsonian, but he can't do it? It's a wooden box with parts and wires and a glass bulb where a Bud tap should be. It's historic, YES, but DeForest doesn't usually trip my trigger and I don't like checks either. "MIT" wrote in message news:6NH4f.2837$q%.1505@newssvr12.news.prodigy.com... > its about 40k too much for a battery box > mit > > "Brian Hill" wrote in message news:8mF4f.7728$lN2.2770@fe04.lga... > |I wonder if this will sell? It is rare allright. > | > | http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-DeFOREST-RJ-4-Radio_W0QQitemZ6569773712QQcategoryZ38033QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > | > | > | -- > | 73 and good DX. B.H. > | Brian's Radio Universe > | http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm > | > | > > Article: 324295 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <0-ydnZzrxMazzszeRVn-qw@comcast.com> <15u4f.442801$_o.192990@attbi_s71> <11l5lq7k1t56k59@news.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Parts is parts Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 17:50:47 GMT Well, I'm off to such a great start. Over the weekend I decided to recap a Crosley Jeweler's radio. It works, but volume is intermittent. So i decided to recap it, clean tube contacts, and take it from there. First, the filter was a replacement, and too small. I didn't have a replacement, so while waiting I recapped the rest. Today I bought new filters and installed them. So, against my grain I replaced all the caps at once. Now the radio hums, and is otherwise silent. Ho hum . . . Time to dig out that isolation transformer and have some fun. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message news:s1Q4f.468$Xj4.72972@monger.newsread.com... > Nothing's ever really "gone" with semis, they change the names to protect > the diligent. > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:J%M4f.1812$fc7.859@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> Something that I DID find, while searching for various things, are some >> FM >> boards. >> >> I have one "good" one, two of the new-style boards that didn't work out, > and >> two older versions that I know very little about. To the best of my >> knowledge these are all in good condition; they came from customers who >> later decided to convert to stereo. >> >> I've basically been saving them for a rainy day. Maybe if I get into a >> tinkering mood I might install one in one of my home radios; if someone >> wants to reverse-engineer one of these, remember the "good" one is no > longer >> made because it used specialized IC's which are gone. >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> >> "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message >> news:n8E4f.443$Xj4.65956@monger.newsread.com... >> > Somebody I know named Chris Cuff would've loved such a project, but >> > when >> > he >> > saw his parents needs were getting to be more pressing, he retreated > from >> > designing AM stereo and RF based products and he's possibly a little >> > reclusive now. An engineering genius otherwise. >> > >> > Have you determined what local HD radio could do to your hybrid in the > way >> > of interference, or is this a little more safe from byproducts? >> > >> > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message >> > news:g1E4f.2497$4O1.280@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >> >> I'll tell you what -- if someone can come up with a decent FM board >> >> I'm >> > very >> >> interested. AAR used to make a very nice FM board. It went inside >> >> the >> >> original radio. It connected to the antenna, to the AM oscillator > coil, >> > and >> >> to the volume control. Through a relay and timer, it would switch > bands >> > by >> >> turning the radio odd and back on. The FM would pick up stations from >> >> the >> >> antenna, tuning was based on the LO frequency, and audio would go into >> >> the >> >> volume control. People who own Mustangs, GTO's, Corvettes, etc., are >> >> customers for conversion, but older 6 volt cars generally do better > with >> > the >> >> original radio and an FM board -- and it's about half the price of a >> >> conversion. A few years ago AAR ran out of parts, and designed a new >> > board >> >> but it had bugs. Since I was only one of two dealers in the world who >> >> was >> >> still buying them, they decided it wasn't worth it and scrapped the >> > project. >> >> Yes, it cost me a lot of money . . . >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message >> >> news:11l5lq7k1t56k59@news.supernews.com... >> >> > Gary, I don't suppose you've considered producing your own boards? >> > Well, >> >> > actually I mean contracting them. Buy the raw stuff and pay people > to >> > do >> >> > the assembly and testing work. >> >> > >> >> > heck, you might even design a better one! >> >> > >> >> > Frank >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > Article: 324296 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Anyone Recognize this radio? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:13:41 GMT Take a look and tell me what this is?... http://johnjeanantiqueradio.com/oliver008.jpg John k9uwa Article: 324297 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 16:49:10 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Anyone Recognize this radio? References: Message-ID: John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > Take a look and tell me what this is?... > > > http://johnjeanantiqueradio.com/oliver008.jpg > > John k9uwa > Looks British to me. -Bill Article: 324298 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Attention Pennsylvanians Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:58:08 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <11l02gph0a3avf5@corp.supernews.com> <11l0kefe3o9o6b6@corp.supernews.com> <1129572593.416802.300650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> In <1129572593.416802.300650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> "Mike Koste" writes: >Make a day of it here: http://www.antiquescapital.com/ I go down there every summer to visit family. We usually hit the lots in this order: Black Angus outdoor tables (they seem to close the earliest), Renninger's outdoor, Renninger's indoor, back to Black Angus for the indoor dealers. Both of these establishments are a stone's throw away from each other, and are quite large. Black Angus has a beer garden / lunch counter place where you can get a good lunch. The Black Angus mall itself is more upscale with not a whole lot of radios, but there are a few. There's one dealer who has decent scientific instruments, and I can usually find something early electrical from him. Although he does tend to polish the living daylights out of brass -- he had a Wimshurst that looked like it came from Pier 1. Renninger's is more scrappy, and probably a better bet for regular ole radios. I've never found anything astonishing there, but a few years back I picked up a Philco Safari from one of the outdoor dealers for a good price. Last summer I was rooting through a box of about a dozen tubes and noticed a 45. I was about to ask the guy how much he wanted for that one tube when he said "$5 for the whole box." Okay, done. Indoors at Renninger's there's a few dealers with radios, including a handful of consoles. You'll also see phonos and mechanical music boxes. Definitely wander around Renninger's outdoor tables, though. If I had, say, only an hour, that's probably what I'd do. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 324299 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:11:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In Bill writes: >xrongor wrote: >> exactly. im not saying dump usenet altogether, but we dont need to keep >> patching the current usenet model with bigger faster servers/pipelines and >> compression/encoding schemes designed to circumvent the fundamental fact >> that usenet cant efficiently handle large files. >Well, that implies that somebody has to cough up cash money and set up >sites/technology that do it better...with the 'obligation' of doing it >for free. Nonsense. The vast majority of large file traffic could be handled easily with systems that have been in place for ages. If I have a burning need to enhance my discussion with visual aids, I'll post a link to a picture on my web site. If you wrote a new song, or ripped an old public domain one, there's lots of sites that'll store your gift to humanity for you. Upload it there and post a link. >'For free' is why our binary usenet 'bulletin board' methodology is what >it is. If it were so awful then people would be happy to pay for a >better alternative...many do...and many don't. Most people neither know nor care about the backbone. But that doesn't mean it doesn't exist, and using it wisely is not a bad thing. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 324300 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:17:42 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: In DaveW writes: >Indeed. Ask most anyone who isn't a computer nerd, and who has had >internet access for 5 years or more. The vast, vast majority don't even >know that USENET exists. They think newsgroups = yahoo groups. The vast majority have no clue how the Internet, or large scale systems in general, work. If they think about it at all they'd probably say it's a bunch of really, really, really big peecees sitting in AOL's offices. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 324301 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: FA: Pilot, one of the best tombstones ever Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:19:40 -0400 "Tom Adkins" wrote in message news:zuudnWAn7vcBv8neRVn-hw@comcast.com... > Mark Oppat wrote: > > Pilot made some super high end tombstones... Bill Moore is the expert in > > this brand... anyways, here is one on eBay... > > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/PILOT-RADIO-MODEL-U650_W0QQitemZ6570463120QQcategoryZ933QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > drool. > > > > Mark Oppat > > > > > > > > I wanna know how they got the eye tube in the center of the speaker. That's a neat > trick, looks pretty cool. Same way Westinghouse and American Bosch did it. It's behind the speaker cone spider. Pete Article: 324302 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Walton From Hell.... Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1129252439.310440.169480@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <11kv8acddt8ca4a@corp.supernews.com> <11l0o3n79r5355a@corp.supernews.com> In "Bruce Mercer" writes: >I'm sure you know this technique for breaking glue joints, but for others: >Put cab. in a plastic bag and place in freezer or outside if you live in Vt. >for a good 24 hrs. You have a freezer big enough to fit a console? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 324303 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Fall Sawp Meet, Saturday October 29th. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:38:34 GMT Don't forget, the CC-AWA Fall Swap Meet is less than 2 weeks away. Make sure you're not looking at an old flier with the date as the 22nd. THE OFFICIAL DATE IS SATURDAY,OCTOBER 29th. You can find new driving directions and all the details about the upcoming event on our Fall Swap Meet web page at; http://cc_awa.homestead.com/Fall.html It's Saturday, Oct. 29th. See ya there. Article: 324304 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <8mF4f.7728$lN2.2770@fe04.lga> Subject: Re: Get out your checkbooks! Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:43:54 -0400 "Brian Hill" wrote in message news:8mF4f.7728$lN2.2770@fe04.lga... > I wonder if this will sell? It is rare allright. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/1909-DeFOREST-RJ-4-Radio_W0QQitemZ6569773712QQcategoryZ38033QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > I'd bid, but he don't take PayPal. Article: 324305 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: FA: Pilot, one of the best tombstones ever Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 09:02:20 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Tom Adkins" wrote in message news:H7CdnTIuKJCfpsneRVn-hQ@comcast.com... > Uncle Peter wrote: > >>> >>> I wanna know how they got the eye tube in the center of the speaker. >> >> That's a neat >> >>>trick, looks pretty cool. >> >> >> Same way Westinghouse and American Bosch did it. It's behind the speaker >> cone spider. >> >> Pete >> >> > > That's the first one I ever saw like that. I can't quite picture what you > mean by "behind the speaker cone spider". It would have to be in front of > the cone and spider, correct? Unless the speaker is awfully deep, how do > they get the tube, socket, and wiring ahead of the spider and how do the > wires exit from under the edge of the speaker frame? Would be easy enough to mount the speaker onto an extension deep enough to allow the eye tube to be in front of the speaker. Article: 324306 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43544091.D2A14461@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? References: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:22:47 GMT Tim Mullen wrote: > > In DaveW writes: > > >Indeed. Ask most anyone who isn't a computer nerd, and who has had > >internet access for 5 years or more. The vast, vast majority don't even > >know that USENET exists. They think newsgroups = yahoo groups. > > The vast majority have no clue how the Internet, or large scale > systems in general, work. If they think about it at all they'd > probably say it's a bunch of really, really, really big peecees > sitting in AOL's offices. Like the whiners on news:earthlink.support.usenet who think that you can just ut a bigger hard drive on the news server to add a couple hundred binaries newsgroups or demand to know, "Just how hard is it to fix a news server?" They don't understand that it takes a lot of computer equipment. After all, they don't call it a server farm, for nothing! ;-) -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 324307 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: radionut Subject: Distortion in my old radio Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:33:56 GMT I have an AK 735 with the following tubes: 2A7, 58, 2A6, 2A5, and 80. I have completely recapped this set and it plays but there is hum every time I tune in a strong station and this causes distortion in the sound. This hum or buzz is not present between stations and does not happen on weak stations. The AVC appears to be working and bias on the tubes appears ok. Signal tracing shows the distortion back through the IF tube number 58. The signal at the 2A7 is too weak to hear. Tube substitution did not help.I have ran out of ideas on this problem. Any help would be appreciated. Article: 324308 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:39:53 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Fisher 500-T Receiver, Why Right Ch Weak, esp Bass ? References: <1129590127.091290.198870@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: William Sommerwerck wrote: > Any number of possibilities, probably a bad coupling cap or two. > > My old Sansui does this occasionally. In fact I need to go into it again. It has always been a switch or pot with a weak or dirty contact. If you're lucky this will be the problem. -Bill Article: 324309 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: FA Midwest 18 tuber console..not mine Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 18:38:34 -0600 Message-ID: <7513-4354440A-222@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: <1129587253.869766.31340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> I like cheap flimsy radios :-) A contractor would not like HF tools much but i find a few select tools very good for home use ... getting them for 75% off retail helps too :-) I would like to get my hands on an 18 tube Midwest . Article: 324310 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Distortion in my old radio Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:52:00 -0400 "radionut" wrote in message news:bcg8l11p4r8lrrbuvfupk37v7gejo44so2@4ax.com... > I have an AK 735 with the following tubes: 2A7, 58, 2A6, 2A5, and 80. > I have completely recapped this set and it plays but there is hum > every time I tune in a strong station and this causes distortion in > the sound. This hum or buzz is not present between stations and does > not happen on weak stations. The AVC appears to be working and bias > on the tubes appears ok. Signal tracing shows the distortion back > through the IF tube number 58. The signal at the 2A7 is too weak to > hear. Tube substitution did not help.I have ran out of ideas on this > problem. Any help would be appreciated. Try a good earth ground to the chassis. Sounds like "tuneable hum", caused by the AC line acting as a counterpoise for the antenna, and the rectifier tube action varying the counterpoise coupling at the AC line frequency rate. Pete Article: 324311 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <11l02gph0a3avf5@corp.supernews.com> <1129579353.046383.28960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Attention Pennsylvanians (Slight SS OT for braggin' rights)... Message-ID: <5JX4f.24$ZA3.3475@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:54:25 GMT I need a belt for mine and a replica of a switch knob. "Barry" wrote in message news:1129579353.046383.28960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Ha. Funny to see my tape deck in a "vintage" site. > > http://www.vintagetechnics.com/tapedecks/rs615us.htm > > Original owner. > > Barry - N4BUQ > Article: 324312 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: FA: Pilot, one of the best tombstones ever Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:57:10 GMT "Tom Adkins" wrote in message news:H7CdnTIuKJCfpsneRVn-hQ@comcast.com... > Uncle Peter wrote: > >>> >>> I wanna know how they got the eye tube in the center of the >>> speaker. >> >> That's a neat >> >>>trick, looks pretty cool. >> >> >> Same way Westinghouse and American Bosch did it. It's behind the >> speaker >> cone spider. >> >> Pete >> >> > > That's the first one I ever saw like that. I can't quite picture > what you mean by "behind the speaker cone spider". It would have to > be in front of the cone and spider, correct? Unless the speaker is > awfully deep, how do they get the tube, socket, and wiring ahead of > the spider and how do the wires exit from under the edge of the > speaker frame? It's probably a lot easier with a 6AD6G than with the longer eye tubes. http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/8176/6ad67gj.jpg jim menning Article: 324313 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Pilot, one of the best tombstones ever Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:58:13 -0400 http://radioatticarchives.com/images/w/Westinghouse_WR-214_(1937)_Feldt.jpg Here is the Westinghouse version of the eye tube in front of the speaker cone trick.. This is one I'd like to find! Article: 324314 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129590127.091290.198870@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Fisher 500-T Receiver, Why Right Ch Weak, esp Bass ? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:58:13 GMT My 5050 got two new 5A fuses on the main board, and then proceeded to light all five like flash bulbs, one at a time. DAMN that was my favorite receiver ever "Bill" wrote in message news:dfdbd$4354445c$4232bda9$32027@COQUI.NET... > William Sommerwerck wrote: > > > Any number of possibilities, probably a bad coupling cap or two. > > > > > My old Sansui does this occasionally. In fact I need to go into it > again. It has always been a switch or pot with a weak or dirty contact. > If you're lucky this will be the problem. > > -Bill Article: 324315 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <7512-4351D3C8-474@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> <1129562629.177060.69860@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1129581870.053503.241360@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Radio/TV Shop Contents Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:01:59 GMT Hope you're pleased. What's wrong with AK? Never mind. "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1129581870.053503.241360@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Oh, I know. Didn't mean to ruffle anyone's feathers. I just thought > the owner of the stuff ought to be making that call, rather than the > bystanders. Being in the peanut gallery myself, I'll shut up now. I'm > in favor of the don't-get-into-it-if-you-can-help-it approach with > this subject anyway. I wasn't defending him, just sticking up for > general civility. > > Thank you and have a pleasant tomorrow. > > Tox > Article: 324316 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43544E38.8423B541@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Question About Archive Sites References: <1129596944.688264.158920@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:21:02 GMT Geoff wrote: > > I remember reading about a site that had an archive of almost every web > site to EVER be on the internet. Does this sound familiar to anyone, > and if so can someone point me towards that site? > Also, is there a binaries archive where I can search for past postings > of photos? > > Thanks, > Geoff "The wayback machine" -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 324317 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:34:15 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Question About Archive Sites References: <1129596944.688264.158920@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43544E38.8423B541@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Michael A. Terrell wrote: >>Also, is there a binaries archive where I can search for past postings >>of photos? Try this one. There are others, check Google. http://www.usenet-replayer.com/groups/alt.binaries.pictures.radio.html Article: 324318 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: FA: Pilot, one of the best tombstones ever Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:35:00 -0400 "jim > > It's probably a lot easier with a 6AD6G than with the longer eye > tubes. > > http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/8176/6ad67gj.jpg > > jim menning > > Yeah, but the Westinghouse uses an ST 6G5. :) Pete Article: 324319 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <4353CDA8.509EBD51@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Sarasota Swap Meet -- still 6 weeks away but we're working hard Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:09:40 GMT I can see him trying to lug back three Philco consoles on a bus . . . -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message news:msQ4f.472$Xj4.73276@monger.newsread.com... > How much is bus fare two-way? There's no reason he shouldn't go! I'd chip > 10 > in for that myself. > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message > news:4353CDA8.509EBD51@earthlink.net... >> Gary Tayman wrote: >> > >> > I'm bringing this up because we've had a few threads recently about the >> > future of swap meets. >> > >> > Years ago the Florida chapter of the AWA hosted swap meets in a high > school >> > in Bradenton. Without getting into details the club folded, and a few > of us >> > got together and formed the Sarasota Antique Radio Club, hosting swap > meets >> > three times a year in Sarasota. Although these have been fun and > friendly >> > meets, attendance has dwindled -- and I believe the one this past >> > August > was >> > the worst attended ever with only a few tables taken. >> > >> > There has been talk of the hobby dying, of losing interest, of supplies > and >> > radios drying up. I say hogwash! Look at eBay; look at the meets in >> > Kutztown, Michigan, and other places, and just look at the activitiy > right >> > here at RAR&P (BTW, I've noticed the bickering has subsided and this NG > has >> > been very enjoyable lately -- thank you!). I honestly believe Florida > is >> > one of the hobby capitals of the world, with the population of >> > retirees, >> > snowbirds, and tourists we have, not to mention the outstanding ground > plane >> > we have for radio interests! So why has the swap meet been so poorly >> > attended? I believe there are two reasons. First, most people don't > even >> > know it exists! Second, some who have attended have been disappointed > and >> > have not returned. >> > >> > SO -- with lagging performance in such a fertile area, I've taken it on > to >> > do something about it! For starters I've simply mentioned what I'm > doing to >> > various merchants, and with just word-of-mouth I've already got four >> > new >> > dealers committed! I've written up a new flyer, and yesterday we had a >> > meeting and approved it. During the next few weeks I intend to get > these >> > flyers passed out in a BIG way, blanketing them to electronics dealers, >> > radio stations (not for air but for interest of the employees), > newspapers, >> > and antique dealers in Sarasota, Bradenton, Venice, and Arcadia. >> > >> > Since many of the new visitors may not be there to buy tube sockets, >> > I'm >> > trying to make this a display as well as a swap meet. The first time >> > we >> > added the word "show" we had about a dozen radios on display; in August >> > there was only one -- mine, which was a Crosley clock/radio that was > nice, >> > but hardly interesting. THIS TIME we'll be encouraging radios for > display, >> > as a voter's choice trophy will be awarded to the best radio by popular >> > vote. >> > >> > We will also have tube testers available for use by patrons, along with > a >> > 50-50 and door prize(s) hopefully with an "s". >> > >> > Bottom line is this: I'm doing my part to kick in the afterburners. > With >> > any luck this meet will soon become a far cry from what it has been in > the >> > past -- but hopefully continuing with the same fun and fellowship. >> > >> > Stay tuned! >> > >> > -- >> > Gary E. Tayman >> >> >> I wish I could still drive that far, Gary. I would love to come and >> see who and what is there. >> >> -- >> ? >> >> Michael A. Terrell >> Central Florida > > Article: 324320 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43545C7F.6529BF76@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: The ultimate boombox? References: <1129382179.057108.115200@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <43519B65.E768E68@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:21:59 GMT Bill Cohn wrote: > > Michael A. Terrell wrote: > > Benjamaniac wrote: > > > >> I remember those from the '70's. They were supposed to the naswer for > >>those people wanting a jukebox at home...with added bells and whistles. I > >>saw one here at an auction a while back. Nobody would bid on it...myself > >>included. > >> Ben > >> > > > > > > Their electronics was the worst crap on the market. A furniture > > store was selling that crap and we made the mistake of agreeing to be > > set up for warranty work on Morse/Electrophonic. 90% had problems when > > they were unpacked, and the crappy amplifiers had the same metal cased > > transistors used in cheap battery powered pocket radios. They were > > advertised as being a couple hundred watts, which was a lot higher that > > the power it consumed. They used the cheap BSR Record changers with > > plastic turntables. We could buy the same turntable for about $6, and > > the 8 track mechanism was about $8 wholesale from a couple importers. > > It was also used in some of the cheapest car stereos of that era, as > > well. They kept the crappy 12V DC motor, while other companies used the > > AC motor version. > > > I worked part time in a shop that was the warranty station for Morse > Electrophonic in the late 70s and I have to agree with you. This stuff > does not deserve to be collected or preserved. The electronics were an > embarrassment. The power supply was so poor the pilot lights would dim > if you turned the volume up. > > Bill Cohn I saw a lot of bad power transformers on out of warranty units. I replaced them with a couple filament transformers. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 324321 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: packard bell console question Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:26:16 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1129443632.93d15ef9cd3258845edaa493da24b0ff@teranews> <1234-43527C00-172@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> <1129495682.08e304d9658d34e3f39d720898166797@teranews> <1129497041.6ae651dfa8836587d64edc2d0f2f8ca3@teranews> <1129525847.6a4f6fe60c87414aeb5bbe634e18744f@teranews> In <1129525847.6a4f6fe60c87414aeb5bbe634e18744f@teranews> "william_b_noble" writes: [two turntables] >I think you are right - but that is pretty odd Dubbing? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 324322 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43545DD2.8FFF5877@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Zenith R7000-2 Transoceanic Need IC201 (#221-113) References: <1oudnUrS04ZWjtfeRVn-pA@conversent.net> <1128951799.632002.192430@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <542dnaXuoqPANtfeRVn-vw@conversent.net> <434ADA04.A1369250@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:27:38 GMT Bill Cohn wrote: > > Michael, > > Zenith never made their own semiconductors. They did have them made > specially for them by many of the well known semiconductor houses like > Motorola, Texas Instruments, Fairchild and Phillips. Most of the IC's > used in the R7000-2 were off the shelf parts at the time as the > production run of this radio was small. They were either TI or National > parts. Zenith used the National LM373 in that radio for part of the run > but I think they changed the design in the later versions of the chassis. It kind of figured that, but one of their engineers claimed that they did at one of the service seminars. With the few types they used at the time I couldn't see how they could have their own semi fab, but he insisted that they did. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 324323 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43545E4D.E95B5A2@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Sarasota Swap Meet -- still 6 weeks away but we're working hard References: <4353CDA8.509EBD51@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:29:40 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > > I can see him trying to lug back three Philco consoles on a bus . . . Only three? I didn't know there was a limit! ;-) -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 324324 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129443632.93d15ef9cd3258845edaa493da24b0ff@teranews> <1234-43527C00-172@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> <1129495682.08e304d9658d34e3f39d720898166797@teranews> <1129497041.6ae651dfa8836587d64edc2d0f2f8ca3@teranews> <1129525847.6a4f6fe60c87414aeb5bbe634e18744f@teranews> Subject: Re: packard bell console question Message-ID: <_8Z4f.28$ZA3.5199@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:32:26 GMT Home recordings of loved ones, most likely, as why would you dub to 78 rpm? "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:dj1mg8$k5h$1@reader2.panix.com... > In <1129525847.6a4f6fe60c87414aeb5bbe634e18744f@teranews> "william_b_noble" writes: > > [two turntables] > > >I think you are right - but that is pretty odd > > Dubbing? > > -- > Tim Mullen > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. > ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 324325 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <4353CDA8.509EBD51@earthlink.net> <43545E4D.E95B5A2@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Sarasota Swap Meet -- still 6 weeks away but we're working hard Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:33:08 GMT It's a Greyhound, isn't it? "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:43545E4D.E95B5A2@earthlink.net... > Gary Tayman wrote: > > > > I can see him trying to lug back three Philco consoles on a bus . . . > > > Only three? I didn't know there was a limit! ;-) > > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 324326 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Music for your radio station? Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 02:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <43544091.D2A14461@earthlink.net> In <43544091.D2A14461@earthlink.net> "Michael A. Terrell" writes: > Like the whiners on news:earthlink.support.usenet who think that you >can just ut a bigger hard drive on the news server to add a couple >hundred binaries newsgroups or demand to know, "Just how hard is it to >fix a news server?" They don't understand that it takes a lot of >computer equipment. After all, they don't call it a server farm, for >nothing! ;-) News spool access patterns beat up disks something fierce. Locality is all over the map, and due to Usenet's wunnerful propagation model you probably have more writes than reads. You're stressing the heads more, and you're doing it TWICE: once for the data block, and once to update metadata. Look, Usenet is a great resource. For on-the-fly text messages, I far prefer this to anything else. I've weighed in before on my preferences for news versus web forums. Just don't go trying to use it for everything you want to do. It should be used intelligently. "If all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail." People have to get off their butts and learn some new tools or they're gonna break the old one. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 324327 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: FA Midwest 18 tuber console..not mine Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:47:36 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1129550619.453509.59650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1129562350.276397.44540@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1129580213.604635.27100@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1129582378.695611.62520@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129587253.869766.31340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Eddie Brimer wrote: > it was a tongue in cheek remark.....with a point in there somewhere. > harbor freight has some neat stuff. they also have a bunch of crap. > some of their tools merely physically resemble the tools that they try > to imitate. that is kinda the lines i was thinking when i posted the > comment.....midwest tried to look the part of a high end radio with the > gawdy dial and the over-doing with the toner....and tried to do it at > half the cost...and were successful to an extent. to a guy ordering a > radio from a picture, it looked like an excellent deal...and probably > was. no offense intended to the midwest lovers out there. i would still > buy the set if i could get a good deal on it. part of the attraction > for me would be the fact that it is what it is. > Midwest attempted to produce radios with the performance and styling of the Scott Allwaves of the day for about 1/8 the price. For the most part, they succeeded. The cabinets pretty much sucked (pretty but flimsy), but there's nothing cheesy about the electronics inside. Midwest saved quite a bit of money by using minor variations of the same tried-and-true designs year after year. I have a 1947 midwest console chassis and another one from '53. Both are identical right down to the faceplate except the '53 version uses miniture tubes, as opposed to octals in the '47 version. I looked it up in my tube book and the specifications of the minitures in the later set match those of the octals in the earlier set perfectly. All the other parts are interchangable. -Scott Article: 324328 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: FA: Pilot, one of the best tombstones ever Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 19:50:50 -0700 Message-ID: References: Tom Adkins wrote: > jim menning wrote: > >> >> >> It's probably a lot easier with a 6AD6G than with the longer eye tubes. >> >> http://img431.imageshack.us/img431/8176/6ad67gj.jpg >> >> jim menning >> > > Aaahhh, I forgot about that tube. I have also seen short 'n stubby versions of the 6E5 and 6G5 which would probably work. It is a neat effect, regardless of how they did it. -Scott Article: 324329 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Saul Rabinowitz Subject: Re: Question About Archive Sites References: <1129596944.688264.158920@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:26:45 GMT Geoff wrote: > I remember reading about a site that had an archive of almost every web > site to EVER be on the internet. Does this sound familiar to anyone, > and if so can someone point me towards that site? > Also, is there a binaries archive where I can search for past postings > of photos? > Yes. The web site archive: absolutely! I recall that it's run by a non-profit for this purpose. I know it exists because I used it once within the last two months. Unfortunatey, I can't remember what it's called. Past posting of photos: I don't know. Saul Article: 324330 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave Burson" Subject: Philco 80 problem Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:32:48 GMT I've been working on this chassis which looked like it had never been touched since it left the plant. Radio had no sound except that from bad electrolytics, so I replaced all the usual caps, found all the resistors to be on or very close, then found an open primary in the IF coil which I successfully resoldered. I still get no sound except for just enough hum to know the power is on. The tube lineup is 80, 36, 36, 42, and they all test OK on an emissions tester. Voltage checks show that the power transformer and rectifier are fine, but the 2nd detector should have plate voltage of about 40v and measures 132v., should have15v on the screen grid but has 24v. The det/osc voltages all match the data chart pretty well. The output tube reads about 20v high for both the plate and the screen grid. (I can't trust the chart too far because it was made prior to several wiring revisions. I relocated one grounded wire per the original schematic, just to check, and found that all my too high cathode voltages then read dead on. I then put it back as found, which I know to be correct.) I swapped the 36's but there was no significant change in readings. I had hoped I could get thru this simple-looking chassis w/o having to tap the ARAP fount of wisdom, but I'm still way down on the learning curve and I'd appreciate any/all suggestions on what to check now. Thanks, Dave Burson Article: 324331 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: FA Midwest 18 tuber console..not mine Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:40:33 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1129550619.453509.59650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1129562350.276397.44540@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1129580213.604635.27100@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1129582378.695611.62520@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129587253.869766.31340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> In <1129587253.869766.31340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Eddie Brimer" writes: >harbor freight has some neat stuff. they also have a bunch of crap. >some of their tools merely physically resemble the tools that they try >to imitate. C|N>K! That's a great line, Eddie. Can I borrow that? :) -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 324332 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: THE CAPEHART SOLD... Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 20:34:06 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1129563990.050260.169780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Jiri Placek wrote: > My steal this week was a free Capehart console, not only with > non-potmetal gramophone chassis but also with an 8-track player. All > solid state however :o( Will save the speakers and and dispose the > rest I guess. > > That makes me wonder - how long was the Capehart brand sold and when > its demise started? > In 1980, A friend presented me with my first-ever Capehart product to repair....A digital clock-radio with stereo FM and distorted audio on both channels (stereo was a bit unusual in a clock-radio back then). It was an easy fix-the audio output IC was bad and a $4.99 Radio Shack replacement fixed everything. Nice sounding radio. At that time, I had never heard of Capehart and assumed it was just another Japanese off-brand (which it may have been by that time). The date codes on the ICs were '78 or '79 IIRC. I haven't seen anything later than that with the Capehart name on it. Maybe someone will revive it someday and produce K-Mart specials under the Capehart name, as is being done now with Philco and Detrola :-( -Scott Article: 324333 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: Subject: Re: Anyone Recognize this radio? Message-ID: <%i_4f.9853$ns3.517208@news20.bellglobal.com> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:51:22 -0400 "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:VBT4f.254310$084.114394@attbi_s22... > Take a look and tell me what this is?... > > > http://johnjeanantiqueradio.com/oliver008.jpg > > John k9uwa Not North American, is it? Man, hard to call it beautiful... Article: 324334 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: packard bell console question Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1129443632.93d15ef9cd3258845edaa493da24b0ff@teranews> <1234-43527C00-172@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> <1129495682.08e304d9658d34e3f39d720898166797@teranews> <1129497041.6ae651dfa8836587d64edc2d0f2f8ca3@teranews> <1129525847.6a4f6fe60c87414aeb5bbe634e18744f@teranews> <_8Z4f.28$ZA3.5199@monger.newsread.com> In <_8Z4f.28$ZA3.5199@monger.newsread.com> "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> writes: >Home recordings of loved ones, most likely, as why would you dub to 78 rpm? Why would you need two turntables? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 324335 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129550619.453509.59650@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1129562350.276397.44540@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1129580213.604635.27100@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1129582378.695611.62520@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129587253.869766.31340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FA Midwest 18 tuber console..not mine Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 03:59:38 GMT Edith Bunker and Yogi Berra couldn't have done better : ) "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:dj1qrh$ijf$1@reader2.panix.com... > In <1129587253.869766.31340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "Eddie Brimer" writes: > > >harbor freight has some neat stuff. they also have a bunch of crap. > >some of their tools merely physically resemble the tools that they try > >to imitate. > > C|N>K! That's a great line, Eddie. Can I borrow that? :) > > -- > Tim Mullen > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. > ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 324336 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129443632.93d15ef9cd3258845edaa493da24b0ff@teranews> <1234-43527C00-172@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> <1129495682.08e304d9658d34e3f39d720898166797@teranews> <1129497041.6ae651dfa8836587d64edc2d0f2f8ca3@teranews> <1129525847.6a4f6fe60c87414aeb5bbe634e18744f@teranews> <_8Z4f.28$ZA3.5199@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: packard bell console question Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:04:09 GMT Recording stylus no good for playback of conventional LPs etc, much easier for consumer than making them switch over so much. There may have been some intended use as a dubber also but it would seem 78 to 33 microgroove (not possible) was still more logical. I know that doesn't fully answer your question, Tim, but it's hard to guess after 50-so years. "Tim Mullen" wrote in message news:dj1rjp$ijf$2@reader2.panix.com... > In <_8Z4f.28$ZA3.5199@monger.newsread.com> "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> writes: > > >Home recordings of loved ones, most likely, as why would you dub to 78 rpm? > > Why would you need two turntables? > > -- > Tim Mullen > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. > ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 324337 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: Subject: Re: Philco 80 problem Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:07:46 GMT ARAP is the international Franco-Suisse designation from the International Olympic Committee, I think, or your fingers were toungue-tied ;-) "Dave Burson" wrote in message news:A1_4f.3266$tV6.2356@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net... > I've been working on this chassis which looked like it had never been > touched since it left the plant. Radio had no sound except that from bad > electrolytics, so I replaced all the usual caps, found all the resistors to > be on or very close, then found an open primary in the IF coil which I > successfully resoldered. I still get no sound except for just enough hum to > know the power is on. The tube lineup is 80, 36, 36, 42, and they all test > OK on an emissions tester. > > Voltage checks show that the power transformer and rectifier are fine, but > the 2nd detector should have plate voltage of about 40v and measures 132v., > should have15v on the screen grid but has 24v. The det/osc voltages all > match the data chart pretty well. The output tube reads about 20v high for > both the plate and the screen grid. (I can't trust the chart too far > because it was made prior to several wiring revisions. I relocated one > grounded wire per the original schematic, just to check, and found that all > my too high cathode voltages then read dead on. I then put it back as > found, which I know to be correct.) I swapped the 36's but there was no > significant change in readings. > > I had hoped I could get thru this simple-looking chassis w/o having to tap > the ARAP fount of wisdom, but I'm still way down on the learning curve and > I'd appreciate any/all suggestions on what to check now. > > Thanks, > Dave Burson > > Article: 324338 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <435475C6.EA3C2F90@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Sarasota Swap Meet -- still 6 weeks away but we're working hard References: <4353CDA8.509EBD51@earthlink.net> <43545E4D.E95B5A2@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:09:52 GMT Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > It's a Greyhound, isn't it? There is very little bus service in and out of Ocala. My dad made a trip to Ohio a couple years ago, and it was a royal screwup. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 324339 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129563990.050260.169780@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: THE CAPEHART SOLD... Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:10:20 GMT It's already out there, but I can't remember either (must be a brain flu about lately cauing a new strain of C.R.S.) "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:dj1qff02oj@news1.newsguy.com... > Jiri Placek wrote: > > My steal this week was a free Capehart console, not only with > > non-potmetal gramophone chassis but also with an 8-track player. All > > solid state however :o( Will save the speakers and and dispose the > > rest I guess. > > > > That makes me wonder - how long was the Capehart brand sold and when > > its demise started? > > > > In 1980, A friend presented me with my first-ever Capehart product to > repair....A digital clock-radio with stereo FM and distorted audio on > both channels (stereo was a bit unusual in a clock-radio back then). It > was an easy fix-the audio output IC was bad and a $4.99 Radio Shack > replacement fixed everything. Nice sounding radio. At that time, I had > never heard of Capehart and assumed it was just another Japanese > off-brand (which it may have been by that time). The date codes on the > ICs were '78 or '79 IIRC. I haven't seen anything later than that with > the Capehart name on it. > > Maybe someone will revive it someday and produce K-Mart specials under > the Capehart name, as is being done now with Philco and Detrola :-( > > -Scott > Article: 324340 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: packard bell console question References: <1129443632.93d15ef9cd3258845edaa493da24b0ff@teranews> <1234-43527C00-172@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> <1129495682.08e304d9658d34e3f39d720898166797@teranews> <1129497041.6ae651dfa8836587d64edc2d0f2f8ca3@teranews> <1129525847.6a4f6fe60c87414aeb5bbe634e18744f@teranews> <_8Z4f.28$ZA3.5199@monger.newsread.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:11:26 -0500 Tim Mullen wrote: > Why would you need two turntables? There were mainly two reasons for two turntables: 1) one turntable was a cutter - which was usually single speed - strictly manual. Some cutters had a playback arm for convenience of quickly checking the recordings; but really were intended primarily for cutting. The second turntable was often an automatic (full changer, if not just auto start and stop) and in later years - multi-speed. Keep in mind - some cutters had a second "drive pin" hole in the record - either you needed a retractable pin - or a second table to play pre-recorded records. 2) two different formats: When the 45 first came out - some consoles appeared with two turntables: one "standard" and one 45 player (similar to the little free-standing 45 players). best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 324341 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Anyone Recognize this radio? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <%i_4f.9853$ns3.517208@news20.bellglobal.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:11:37 GMT In article <%i_4f.9853$ns3.517208@news20.bellglobal.com>, farside114@hotmail.com says... > > >"John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message >news:VBT4f.254310$084.114394@attbi_s22... >> Take a look and tell me what this is?... >> >> >> http://johnjeanantiqueradio.com/oliver008.jpg >> >> John k9uwa > >Not North American, is it? > >Man, hard to call it beautiful... > > beats me too... the guy that sent me the picture is a Brit... but he said it was a USA radio... was just hoping someone would recognize the beast ... plain jane looking cabinet like some of the Midwest radios had.. John k9uwa Article: 324342 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4354783E.DBCD3524@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Parts is parts References: <0-ydnZzrxMazzszeRVn-qw@comcast.com> <15u4f.442801$_o.192990@attbi_s71> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:20:24 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > > So -- as you can imagine this is positively the last straw. At least for > now I'll continue with conversions; the only difference is that the "two > week turnaround" will most likely be replaced with 6 months or more, and I'm > scrambling to base my income on something that does not depend on AAR. As > it is, car radios need vibrators, and guess who "says" they will continue to > make new vibrators? More and more I'm thinking home radios are the way to > go. I'll keep doing the other things, but if I can't get what I need it'll > be their loss and not mine. > > -- > Gary E. Tayman Gary, do you have any of the solid state replacement vibrators that has failed? It shouldn't be too hard to reverse engineer it, just in case they close their doors. If they do, you would have the information needed to make your own, or have them made. The last solid state vibrator I saw had a pair of germanium TO-3 transistors and a small pulse transformer, along with a few resistors and capacitors. Early '70s, I think. The can was filled with sand to keep the parts from moving, and to make it weigh more. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 324343 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" References: <1129443632.93d15ef9cd3258845edaa493da24b0ff@teranews> <1234-43527C00-172@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> <1129495682.08e304d9658d34e3f39d720898166797@teranews> <1129497041.6ae651dfa8836587d64edc2d0f2f8ca3@teranews> <1129525847.6a4f6fe60c87414aeb5bbe634e18744f@teranews> <_8Z4f.28$ZA3.5199@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: packard bell console question Message-ID: <1129609439.6d38dd78ba0659c2160d340081f4dd44@teranews> Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 21:23:54 -0700 on the particular unit that started the question, the cutter is exactly as you describe, two tone arms. I think the mystery is partly solved since the scematic shows a second TT - but I still don't know much about the second TT - characteristics, etc - there is a later model TT in it's place. (anyone got an original?) "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message news:Uz_4f.16252$BF5.1185@bignews7.bellsouth.net... > Tim Mullen wrote: > >> Why would you need two turntables? > > There were mainly two reasons for two turntables: > > 1) one turntable was a cutter - which was usually single speed - strictly > manual. Some cutters had a playback arm for convenience of quickly > checking the recordings; but really were intended primarily for cutting. > The second turntable was often an automatic (full changer, if not just > auto start and stop) and in later years - multi-speed. Keep in mind - some > cutters had a second "drive pin" hole in the record - either you needed a > retractable pin - or a second table to play pre-recorded records. > > 2) two different formats: When the 45 first came out - some consoles > appeared with two turntables: one "standard" and one 45 player (similar to > the little free-standing 45 players). > > > best regards... > -- > randy guttery > > A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews > so vital to the United States Silent Service: > http://tendertale.com Article: 324344 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <1129590127.091290.198870@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Fisher 500-T Receiver, Why Right Ch Weak, esp Bass ? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 00:26:02 -0400 "Bill" wrote in message news:dfdbd$4354445c$4232bda9$32027@COQUI.NET... > William Sommerwerck wrote: > >> Any number of possibilities, probably a bad coupling cap or two. >> >> > My old Sansui does this occasionally. In fact I need to go into it again. > It has always been a switch or pot with a weak or dirty contact. > If you're lucky this will be the problem. > > -Bill Or a bad driver transistor or... Article: 324345 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <4353CDA8.509EBD51@earthlink.net> <43545E4D.E95B5A2@earthlink.net> <435475C6.EA3C2F90@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Sarasota Swap Meet -- still 6 weeks away but we're working hard Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:29:37 GMT Amtrak with bus to train service at least one way was around 121.00 for the hypothetical I gave them. We have enough time to accomplish that, and I can pitch in twenty, which I'll guarantee if you want to do it. "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message news:BF_4f.38$ZA3.6475@monger.newsread.com... > Darn. Do they still do passenger train service? > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message > news:435475C6.EA3C2F90@earthlink.net... > > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > > > > > It's a Greyhound, isn't it? > > > > > > There is very little bus service in and out of Ocala. My dad made a > > trip to Ohio a couple years ago, and it was a royal screwup. > > > > -- > > ? > > > > Michael A. Terrell > > Central Florida > > Article: 324346 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43547ACF.E1639548@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Sarasota Swap Meet -- still 6 weeks away but we're working hard References: <4353CDA8.509EBD51@earthlink.net> <43545E4D.E95B5A2@earthlink.net> <435475C6.EA3C2F90@earthlink.net> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:31:22 GMT Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > Darn. Do they still do passenger train service? No, none since a big truck ran into the Amtrak terminal and a large truck service garage last year. Amtrak takes you by bus to Gainsville to catch a train. They shared the terminal with greyhound. There is no long term parking at the terminal, or within walking distance of the terminal so you have to have someone drive you to the terminal, and to pick you up. The tourist either fly in to one of the many international airports or drive their care or motor home so Amtrak decided to to restore train service to Ocala. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 324347 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <4353CDA8.509EBD51@earthlink.net> <43545E4D.E95B5A2@earthlink.net> <435475C6.EA3C2F90@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Sarasota Swap Meet -- still 6 weeks away but we're working hard Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:31:52 GMT You, Gary and whomever can figure out the freight service home for your stuff, but I will guarantee it as I said, and you can enjoy visiting Gary a few extra days if you all wish. "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message news:BF_4f.38$ZA3.6475@monger.newsread.com... > Darn. Do they still do passenger train service? > > "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message > news:435475C6.EA3C2F90@earthlink.net... > > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > > > > > It's a Greyhound, isn't it? > > > > > > There is very little bus service in and out of Ocala. My dad made a > > trip to Ohio a couple years ago, and it was a royal screwup. > > > > -- > > ? > > > > Michael A. Terrell > > Central Florida > > Article: 324348 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129590127.091290.198870@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Fisher 500-T Receiver, Why Right Ch Weak, esp Bass ? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:35:39 GMT Or fireworks for fuses...try not to remind me "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message news:AP_4f.9869$ns3.530272@news20.bellglobal.com... > "Bill" wrote in message > news:dfdbd$4354445c$4232bda9$32027@COQUI.NET... > > William Sommerwerck wrote: > > > >> Any number of possibilities, probably a bad coupling cap or two. > >> > >> > > My old Sansui does this occasionally. In fact I need to go into it again. > > It has always been a switch or pot with a weak or dirty contact. > > If you're lucky this will be the problem. > > > > -Bill > > Or a bad driver transistor or... > > Article: 324349 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <4353CDA8.509EBD51@earthlink.net> <43545E4D.E95B5A2@earthlink.net> <435475C6.EA3C2F90@earthlink.net> <43547ACF.E1639548@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Sarasota Swap Meet -- still 6 weeks away but we're working hard Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:37:05 GMT Well, I can see some of that, but is that number I came up with remotely reasonable? "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message news:43547ACF.E1639548@earthlink.net... > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > > > Darn. Do they still do passenger train service? > > > No, none since a big truck ran into the Amtrak terminal and a large > truck service garage last year. Amtrak takes you by bus to Gainsville to > catch a train. They shared the terminal with greyhound. There is no > long term parking at the terminal, or within walking distance of the > terminal so you have to have someone drive you to the terminal, and to > pick you up. The tourist either fly in to one of the many international > airports or drive their care or motor home so Amtrak decided to to > restore train service to Ocala. > > -- > ? > > Michael A. Terrell > Central Florida Article: 324350 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <%i_4f.9853$ns3.517208@news20.bellglobal.com> Subject: Re: Anyone Recognize this radio? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:39:41 GMT Think you are on the right track but the cabinet is homebrew and the two oddball (British looking) knobs are the clue IMO... "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:ZB_4f.254888$084.138372@attbi_s22... > In article <%i_4f.9853$ns3.517208@news20.bellglobal.com>, > farside114@hotmail.com says... > > > > > >"John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message > >news:VBT4f.254310$084.114394@attbi_s22... > >> Take a look and tell me what this is?... > >> > >> > >> http://johnjeanantiqueradio.com/oliver008.jpg > >> > >> John k9uwa > > > >Not North American, is it? > > > >Man, hard to call it beautiful... > > > > > beats me too... the guy that sent me the picture is a Brit... but > he said it was a USA radio... > was just hoping someone would recognize the beast ... plain jane > looking cabinet like some of the Midwest radios had.. > John k9uwa > Article: 324351 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <%i_4f.9853$ns3.517208@news20.bellglobal.com> Subject: Re: Anyone Recognize this radio? Message-ID: <28%4f.44$ZA3.6888@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 04:47:58 GMT Dial's homemade too, and it's off center, but a pretty good rendition of an "international" airplane dial. All of the knobs are dresser knobs or something for that matter. For goodness sake, what's the chassis like and what's the lineup? Hot chassis? "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message news:h0%4f.43$ZA3.6756@monger.newsread.com... > Think you are on the right track but the cabinet is homebrew and the two > oddball (British looking) knobs are the clue IMO... > > "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message > news:ZB_4f.254888$084.138372@attbi_s22... > > In article <%i_4f.9853$ns3.517208@news20.bellglobal.com>, > > farside114@hotmail.com says... > > > > > > > > >"John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message > > >news:VBT4f.254310$084.114394@attbi_s22... > > >> Take a look and tell me what this is?... > > >> > > >> > > >> http://johnjeanantiqueradio.com/oliver008.jpg > > >> > > >> John k9uwa > > > > > >Not North American, is it? > > > > > >Man, hard to call it beautiful... > > > > > > > > beats me too... the guy that sent me the picture is a Brit... but > > he said it was a USA radio... > > was just hoping someone would recognize the beast ... plain jane > > looking cabinet like some of the Midwest radios had.. > > John k9uwa > > > > Article: 324352 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 01:07:05 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Anyone Recognize this radio? References: <%i_4f.9853$ns3.517208@news20.bellglobal.com> Message-ID: <58e64$435482fd$4232bd23$23005@COQUI.NET> John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > > beats me too... the guy that sent me the picture is a Brit... but > he said it was a USA radio... > was just hoping someone would recognize the beast ... plain jane > looking cabinet like some of the Midwest radios had.. > John k9uwa Ya know, they did market Midwest radios in the UK so thats a strong possibility. -Bill Article: 324353 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Question About Archive Sites Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2005 22:13:23 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1129596944.688264.158920@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Geoff wrote: > I remember reading about a site that had an archive of almost every web > site to EVER be on the internet. Does this sound familiar to anyone, > and if so can someone point me towards that site? > Also, is there a binaries archive where I can search for past postings > of photos? www.archive.org-I have pulled quite a bit of useful information from long-dead websites from this archive. There are also many interesting and just plain odd short films on this site as well. The search engine is kinda sucky, there are huge gaps in the archive and It is pretty slow in loading the pages, but what they are trying to do is almost impossible anyway.....be grateful it exists in any form. Archive of pictures posted in Alt.Binaries.Pictures.Radio: http://techpreservation.dyndns.org/abpr/ -Scott Article: 324354 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <%i_4f.9853$ns3.517208@news20.bellglobal.com> <28%4f.44$ZA3.6888@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: Anyone Recognize this radio? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 05:50:21 GMT Yes, yes, but we have several persons who've alluded to the similarities with Midwest sets, and we have few other cues fro the cabinetry...Proof is not in the puuding (if you want to eat it), now it's time for the inside (back to be revealed)...Mr. Goller is trying to make a mystery of it and is doing a good job as there didn't seem to be any other "oliver00x" in the directory, so it's time for another? "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:n7mdnUvsdrEgGsneRVn-sw@comcast.com... > off center dials are usually due to decomposing gum rubber chassis or tuner > mounting washers, or both. I sell the repros., use them often. > > Mark Oppat > > "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message > news:28%4f.44$ZA3.6888@monger.newsread.com... > > Dial's homemade too, and it's off center, but a pretty good rendition of > an > > "international" airplane dial. All of the knobs are dresser knobs or > > something for that matter. > > > > For goodness sake, what's the chassis like and what's the lineup? Hot > > chassis? > > > > "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> wrote in message > > news:h0%4f.43$ZA3.6756@monger.newsread.com... > > > Think you are on the right track but the cabinet is homebrew and the two > > > oddball (British looking) knobs are the clue IMO... > > > > > > "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message > > > news:ZB_4f.254888$084.138372@attbi_s22... > > > > In article <%i_4f.9853$ns3.517208@news20.bellglobal.com>, > > > > farside114@hotmail.com says... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >"John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message > > > > >news:VBT4f.254310$084.114394@attbi_s22... > > > > >> Take a look and tell me what this is?... > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> http://johnjeanantiqueradio.com/oliver008.jpg > > > > >> > > > > >> John k9uwa > > > > > > > > > >Not North American, is it? > > > > > > > > > >Man, hard to call it beautiful... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beats me too... the guy that sent me the picture is a Brit... but > > > > he said it was a USA radio... > > > > was just hoping someone would recognize the beast ... plain jane > > > > looking cabinet like some of the Midwest radios had.. > > > > John k9uwa > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Article: 324355 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Saul Rabinowitz Subject: Re: Parts is parts References: <43520cd8$0$252$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <082dnT7NlftVhs7eRVn-iQ@comcast.com> <7cK4f.2565$4O1.545@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: <7B05f.2842$Aw.53200@typhoon.sonic.net> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:27:15 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > My typical bill for car radio service is $150-250. Home radios don't have > vibrators so we're $30 better right off the bat. I would say most of the > labor time is in doing recaps, and in most cases the home radios shine in > this department -- compared to cars. Some of you complainers should try > recapping a Zenith Radionic. > > Regarding test equipment, a lot of you have variacs and isolation > transformers, while I have a big fat 0-15v power supply. In the > how-did-I-live-without-it department, I recently picked up a high voltage > power supply. To test a radio I remove the vibrator and rectifier, connect > this supply to the rectifier output, and apply power. Since power supplies > are always bad, I can check the rest of the radio easily without getting too > far involved in rebuilding. I would think I could do the same with home > sets. Yes I've got an isolation transformer; I'll have to dust it off. > Gary, with respect, I don't think that you've fully understood what CalBubba was trying to tell you, so I'll try to say it in my own words. In this post, you've underscored the uniqueness of your service. Is there anyone else who does what you do? I think that what Bubba meant was that you are the guy in the driver's seat when it comes to relationships with your customers. I suggest that you put a statement on every one of your web pages to the effect that the work that you will do for your customers is custom: 1. Restoration 2. Modification 3. This is not ordinary repair work -- you are almost building a custom radio for every customer. "Because of this highly specialized work, the need to scour the nation for rare and custom parts, and the personal attention given to each customer's radio, it is impossible to predict the turnaround time for your project. You should be prepared to allow up to six weeks for the return of your custom project. Sometimes even more time will be required to do an excellent job for you. Do not expect that we will be able to get your radio to you for next Saturday's auto show." I think that you'll find that most customers will fall into line and after the word gets out, that you'll be happily doing business on your own terms. You'll feel the relief! Does anyone disagree? Saul Article: 324356 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <43520cd8$0$252$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> <082dnT7NlftVhs7eRVn-iQ@comcast.com> <7cK4f.2565$4O1.545@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <7B05f.2842$Aw.53200@typhoon.sonic.net> Subject: Re: Parts is parts Message-ID: <4K05f.49$ZA3.8010@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 06:36:48 GMT I think you should write a book. Spot on, Saul. "Saul Rabinowitz" wrote in message news:7B05f.2842$Aw.53200@typhoon.sonic.net... > Gary Tayman wrote: > > My typical bill for car radio service is $150-250. Home radios don't have > > vibrators so we're $30 better right off the bat. I would say most of the > > labor time is in doing recaps, and in most cases the home radios shine in > > this department -- compared to cars. Some of you complainers should try > > recapping a Zenith Radionic. > > > > Regarding test equipment, a lot of you have variacs and isolation > > transformers, while I have a big fat 0-15v power supply. In the > > how-did-I-live-without-it department, I recently picked up a high voltage > > power supply. To test a radio I remove the vibrator and rectifier, connect > > this supply to the rectifier output, and apply power. Since power supplies > > are always bad, I can check the rest of the radio easily without getting too > > far involved in rebuilding. I would think I could do the same with home > > sets. Yes I've got an isolation transformer; I'll have to dust it off. > > > > Gary, with respect, I don't think that you've fully understood what > CalBubba was trying to tell you, so I'll try to say it in my own words. > > In this post, you've underscored the uniqueness of your service. Is > there anyone else who does what you do? > > I think that what Bubba meant was that you are the guy in the driver's > seat when it comes to relationships with your customers. I suggest that > you put a statement on every one of your web pages to the effect that > the work that you will do for your customers is custom: > 1. Restoration > 2. Modification > 3. This is not ordinary repair work -- you are almost building a custom > radio for every customer. > > "Because of this highly specialized work, the need to scour the nation > for rare and custom parts, and the personal attention given to each > customer's radio, it is impossible to predict the turnaround time for > your project. You should be prepared to allow up to six weeks for the > return of your custom project. Sometimes even more time will be required > to do an excellent job for you. Do not expect that we will be able to > get your radio to you for next Saturday's auto show." > > I think that you'll find that most customers will fall into line and > after the word gets out, that you'll be happily doing business on your > own terms. You'll feel the relief! > > Does anyone disagree? > > Saul Article: 324357 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Attention Pennsylvanians Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 07:49:25 -0400 Message-ID: <11l9oa8gav51sbd@corp.supernews.com> References: <11l02gph0a3avf5@corp.supernews.com> <11l0kefe3o9o6b6@corp.supernews.com> <1129572593.416802.300650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Thanks Mike but I've pledge to remain north of I 78 this time ! :) Mike Koste wrote: > Make a day of it here: http://www.antiquescapital.com/ > Article: 324358 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ad206@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Dennis Lloyd) Subject: Re: Question About Archive Sites Date: 18 Oct 2005 12:47:30 GMT Message-ID: References: <1129596944.688264.158920@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Geoff" (estabrg@gmail.com) writes: > I remember reading about a site that had an archive of almost every web > site to EVER be on the internet. Does this sound familiar to anyone, > and if so can someone point me towards that site? Sounds like the "wayback machine" at the Internet Archive In the "Moving Images" section, check out the Prelinger Archives for some great filme (e.g. "Duck and Cover") Dennis Lloyd. Ottawa, Canada. Article: 324359 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4354fea7$0$11061$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: Zenith R7000-2 Transoceanic Need IC201 (#221-113) References: <1oudnUrS04ZWjtfeRVn-pA@conversent.net> <1128951799.632002.192430@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <542dnaXuoqPANtfeRVn-vw@conversent.net> <3EA2f.139322$oW2.122708@pd7tw1no> Date: 18 Oct 2005 13:54:47 GMT Paul Moyer wrote: > Thanks for the effort, but it appears to not be close enough. The R7000-2 > uses a single 10.7 Mhz IF which drives both AM and FM (ratio) detectors (in > parallel). > The 221-113 (a 14-pin DIP) is an IF amp and an AGC amp. The IF input is on > pin 2, the IF output is on pin 8, VCC is pin 11, pins 4 & 5 are AGC inputs, > pin 12 is AGC out, and pins 1,3,6,9,&10 are grounded. Since Siemens made it, I'd expect the replacement part to have some TAA, TBA, TCA or TDA designation. Most commonly used Siemens IF chip wass the TBA120, which indeed has a similar pinout to yours. - Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 324361 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <6fGdncAyYKsD8cneRVn-ug@comcast.com> Subject: Re: Pilot, one of the best tombstones ever Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 14:47:59 -0400 "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:6fGdncAyYKsD8cneRVn-ug@comcast.com... > Emerson did the eye in the grille too, on their one or two high end > tombstones. VERY hard to find sets! > > Mark Oppat > > Mark Did they use a stubby? I know the Westinghouse used a full sized 6G5 ST, that's what the pictoral shows in Riders.... Wonder if any of the others used stubbies? Pete Article: 324362 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <8fydnUjqaYZeosneRVn-uA@giganews.com> <1129598486.476359.82520@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1129645877.916335.190040@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129649378.554274.41640@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: FA Midwest 18 tuber console..not mine Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 19:57:41 GMT I've had a few faux girlfriends...they advertised as one, but they weren't. It happens. Don't blame the plastic, though. "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1129649378.554274.41640@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > i was thinking more along the lines of a 18.00 rolex. looks like a > rolex, does the same thing a rolex does, but costs 1/100 of the real > thing. in the case of harbor freight, take an air sander for > example....it looks like an air sander, it sands, but it will last > about 24 hours and it will take a compressor that puts out 15 cfm to > run it. > Article: 324363 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Dave Burson" References: <1129655574.391074.280120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Philco 80 problem Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:37:51 GMT "nesesu" wrote in message news:1129655574.391074.280120@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > Dave, you said the voltage on the 2nd detector was way high. The > oscillator should not affect that. As mentioned in other posts, they > may have compensated for the VOM in the voltage table and your hi-Z > meter does not load the circuit the same. While measuring the plate > voltage, pull the tube and see if the voltage goes up, or, > alternatively, measure the voltage drop across the plate resistor to > see the tube is drawing current. Likewise for the screen. If not, check > the resistance between the tube pin and the socket wiring tab at the > cathode, screen and filament pins. I have had the very occasional wafer > socket where the brass strip has fractured inside the wafer and broken > or made intermittant the pin to tab connection. If you find a break, > remove the tube and carefully solder a flex wire to the outside of the > pin clip [so it does not affect clip effect] and to the terminal tab. > Generally a hairpin loop in a solid wire gives enough flex. > Otherwise, the other posted suggestions look sensible. > Neil S. > Thanks for the suggestions, Neil. I'll work my way thru them and let you know what I find. Dave Article: 324364 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Philco 42-395 escutcheon References: <1129661072.698340.124950@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:42:26 -0400 I have flattened many escutcheons by building a wooden press to fit and leaving it in a 200 deg. oven for 30-45 min. radio@bill-collins.net wrote: > I need an escutcheon for a Philco 42-395. (This is the 10 button > model, not the 9 that is readily available as a reproduction) > > Or, anyone ever have any luck flattening one of these? > > Bill > Article: 324365 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1129252439.310440.169480@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <11kv8acddt8ca4a@corp.supernews.com> <11l0o3n79r5355a@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Walton From Hell.... Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:25:05 GMT "Bruce Mercer" wrote in message news:zeadnbFLyrei-MjeRVn-ig@sigecom.net... > > "Tim Mullen" wrote in message > news:dj1917$lq5$1@reader2.panix.com... > > In "Bruce Mercer" > > writes: > > > >>I'm sure you know this technique for breaking glue joints, but for others: > >>Put cab. in a plastic bag and place in freezer or outside if you live in > >>Vt. > >>for a good 24 hrs. > > > > You have a freezer big enough to fit a console? > > No, but I have friends who own a large supermarket. Huge blast freezers. > Where there's a will, etc......:-) > > Bruce One of those things that makes the exclamation "Cool!" worthless... Article: 324366 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" Subject: AVC? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:19:28 GMT I'm working on a Telefunken Domino, cheap set of the '50. Completely recapped have good sensitivity, new tubes (ECH81, EF89, EABC80, EL84) gave also strong sound. Has distorted output, distortion increases with volume and with strong signal, no hum. I guessed a fault in the AVC but the eye (6BR5) works fine. Alignment too is ok. Is the AVC working correctly or eye tube behaviour is not a good point to state AVC is/not working fine and others checks have to be performed? Sincerely there is a good difference in hearing far or local signals. I've tried in substituting the final audio cathode resistor from 80 to 150 ohm to reduce current with no success, still distortion, changing cathode cap (sometimes missing) produces an obscure 'click' coming >from the power transformer... Any help will be very appreciated. -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 324367 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Eveready # 505 Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 16:16:43 -0600 Message-ID: <7512-4355744B-980@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> References: I bought one of these at RadioShack some 5 years ago . could not believe they had one . It fit in my Regency transistor radio alhough the wrong physical size it still went in there & worked . Article: 324370 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> Subject: OT: Apparently Hell is still loose, but it hasn't "broken" Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 01:10:36 GMT Or as Fred always said, WILLLLLMAA! Nobody envies you down there...good luck and hope that's it this year. -- ~~~~~ If you think this is bad, the screenplay will be much worse... Article: 324371 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: GE FM "Translator" Message-ID: Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:55:29 -0400 Here's an item I've expected to see for a long while but this is the first time: eBay Item number: 6571095332. Looks like a tube FM tuner meant to connect to an RCA input on a TV or AM radio. Anyone seen these before? -- "Stay calm. Be brave. Wait for the signs." regards, Frank Johansen Aurora, Ontario Article: 324372 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Adney Subject: Re: Parts is parts Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:54:48 -0500 Message-ID: References: <0-ydnZzrxMazzszeRVn-qw@comcast.com> <15u4f.442801$_o.192990@attbi_s71> <11l5lq7k1t56k59@news.supernews.com> On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 02:30:36 GMT "Gary Tayman" wrote: >I'll tell you what -- if someone can come up with a decent FM board I'm very >interested. AAR used to make a very nice FM board. Could you tool up and make your own copies? I know that's a big investment, but if you really know what you need and what works, who better to do it? If you're in this for the long haul, it will eventually pay off. - ----------------------------------------------- Jim Adney jadney@vwtype3.org Madison, WI 53711 USA ----------------------------------------------- Article: 324373 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: geowulf Subject: Re: Distortion in my old radio Message-ID: <2jbbl1psev6ujf9vhn6bgitg52mcl3cbdh@4ax.com> References: <_eGdnT2tgPzG-MneRVn-rA@comcast.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 02:25:17 GMT If you installed a new cord with a polarized AC plug, try either reversing the wires at the radio or clipping or filing off the extra material on the plug so you can reverse the AC polarity that way. On Mon, 17 Oct 2005 23:28:50 -0400, "Mark Oppat" wrote: >add a couple AC bypass caps to chassis if there arent any. I use 1KV discs, >any value .005 to .03 or so will do. > >Mark > > >" Uncle Peter" wrote in message >news:GGX4f.17683$fE5.12887@fed1read06... >> >> "radionut" wrote in message >> news:bcg8l11p4r8lrrbuvfupk37v7gejo44so2@4ax.com... >> > I have an AK 735 with the following tubes: 2A7, 58, 2A6, 2A5, and 80. >> > I have completely recapped this set and it plays but there is hum >> > every time I tune in a strong station and this causes distortion in >> > the sound. This hum or buzz is not present between stations and does >> > not happen on weak stations. The AVC appears to be working and bias >> > on the tubes appears ok. Signal tracing shows the distortion back >> > through the IF tube number 58. The signal at the 2A7 is too weak to >> > hear. Tube substitution did not help.I have ran out of ideas on this >> > problem. Any help would be appreciated. >> >> Try a good earth ground to the chassis. Sounds like "tuneable hum", >> caused by the AC line acting as a counterpoise for the antenna, and >> the rectifier tube action varying the counterpoise coupling at the >> AC line frequency rate. >> >> Pete >> >> >> >> > > Article: 324374 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" Subject: My Alps printer is back on-line: custom decals Message-ID: <3ni5f.102$jV2.25@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 02:41:03 GMT I got Windows XP drivers for my Alps MD-1000 thermal printer. I can now print white, silver, and gold along with the standard C-Y-M and black. Since its a thermal printer, its inks are waterproof. I bought some blank waterslide decal sheets to try making custom decals. I need a good scan of an RCA Radiola III decal, the black and gold one with the licensing info. If someone can give me one, I'll return a duplicate decal, or another one. All I need is a good scan to scale. The printer will only print 300dpi, so the scan should be this quality or better. Robert Murrell Article: 324375 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ableradio@imax.net Subject: Re: GE FM "Translator" Message-ID: References: Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 02:53:40 GMT On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:55:29 -0400, "Buck Frobisher" wrote: >Here's an item I've expected to see for a long while but this is the first >time: eBay Item number: 6571095332. > >Looks like a tube FM tuner meant to connect to an RCA input on a TV or AM >radio. Anyone seen these before? Yes, there was one here in an antique store a while ago, but never on Ebay! Very heavy item with "tropicalized" components IIRC. Article: 324376 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:14:23 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: GE FM "Translator" References: Message-ID: ableradio@imax.net wrote: > On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:55:29 -0400, "Buck Frobisher" > wrote: > > >>Here's an item I've expected to see for a long while but this is the first >>time: eBay Item number: 6571095332. >> >>Looks like a tube FM tuner meant to connect to an RCA input on a TV or AM >>radio. Anyone seen these before? > > > > Yes, there was one here in an antique store a while ago, but never on > Ebay! > > Very heavy item with "tropicalized" components IIRC. 24 pounds worth! It looks like a darn good tuner. RF amp stage with THREE IF amp stages. And 'guillotine'tuning :) 103-260 volts! http://www.nostalgiaair.org/PagesByModel/311/M0008311.pdf I've seen these before on ebay but never took a close look at one. Impressive, although kinda ugly. -Bill Article: 324377 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Another new aquisition Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:15:14 -0600 Message-ID: I came home from work today to find that a guy that I had fixed a radio for a few months ago had dropped off another radio. I called him to ask him what he wanted done to it and he told me that it was for me...if I wanted it. Of course I wanted it....it's a National NC-2-40CS. That thing is huge !!! It weighs a ton too. Other than being dirty as heck...it looks to be in pretty good shape. Has anybody here ever had one of these before ?? Ben Article: 324378 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 23:24:52 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Crosley D25 Question References: <9sdbl1h14q8gqpd425r6d4ob04gogkmp9o@4ax.com> Message-ID: <785cb$4355bc89$4232be27$3106@COQUI.NET> Blacksmith wrote: > > One was marked .08 mfd, the other 10 mfd. I don't recall a 10 mfd > there on other D25's I've recapped. I checked the schematic can't find > either of them on it. > > I pulled out another chassis to resolve the discrepancy, but no dice > of course. One was marked .08, and the other has absolutely no > markings on it at all. Never saw one that wasn't marked. > > Anyone know what the values should be and why all the D25's have the 2 > caps there but are not shown on the schematic? Or show me where they > are on the schematic? > .... > Blacksmith Guessing.... According to the schematic the tuning cap frame is NOT grounded to the chassis. It shows C5 (0.1uf) making the connection from cap to ground. Could that be your .08 one? As for the 10uf. Hmmmm....since the schematic shows all the ps filter caps in multi-section cans the only other place I can think of where a 10uf might be added as an afterthought would be from the AF Output cathode to ground. See if these possibilities make sense with the chassis. -Bill Article: 324379 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Traffic info tansmitter Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:11:47 -0600 Message-ID: <24075-4355B973-1606@storefull-3335.bay.webtv.net> I just aquired a transmitter that was used by the higway department to broadcast weather and road information on AM. I can find no info on it and thought might be adaptable for use as a wireless phono. It was made by INFO System Inc model 71A. Does anyone have any information on these transmitters which I believe to be fairly low power. There isa tag in the set that says it complies with Fcc rules part 15 subpart E section 15.204. Hope I can use it. DON AC7PD Article: 324380 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "william_b_noble" Subject: anyone want this meter? FS Message-ID: <1129693040.05e3aa70715017404e84c608cd08dba4@teranews> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 20:37:16 -0700 new Weston panel meter, calibrated in "percent of rated current", with scales for 50 cps and 60 cps (that dates it, no?), model 1534, it says "FS=5A" which makes me think that full scale will be 5 amps, it's marked "sealed, do not open, ruggedized", 2.5 inch round meter, total OD with flange is about 3.5 inches, box includes an envelope of mounting hardware. I believe this came off of aircraft ground support equipment. $5 for the meter, I don't think the box will fit in a flat rate envelope, and in the box it weighs a little over a pound, so let's say $5 for shipping. let me know if you want this (there may be more, I dont' know yet - found a new source of interesting goodies) -- Bill to Email me, repair this address and use it: william_ b_ noble at msn dot com also check out http://www.wbnoble.com Article: 324381 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4355C134.B35D771A@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: Traffic info tansmitter References: <24075-4355B973-1606@storefull-3335.bay.webtv.net> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 03:43:54 GMT Gridleak wrote: > > I just aquired a transmitter that was used by the higway department to > broadcast weather and road information on AM. I can find no info on it > and thought might be adaptable for use as a wireless phono. It was made > by INFO System Inc model 71A. Does anyone have any information on these > transmitters which I believe to be fairly low power. There isa tag in > the set that says it complies with Fcc rules part 15 subpart E section > 15.204. Hope I can use it. > > DON > AC7PD Does it have a FCC ID number? -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 324382 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "benjamaniac" Subject: Re: Radio/TV Shop Contents Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 21:54:26 -0600 Message-ID: References: Mark...I'm going this Thursday. Can't wait to see what all's there !! Ben "Mark Oppat" wrote in message news:R7adnUTpwvNWXcjeRVn-rg@comcast.com... > Hey Ben, > whats the report on your great "find" last week??? > > Mark Oppat > > > "Benjamaniac" wrote in message > news:diumub$8u0b$1@news3.infoave.net... > > > > "Warren Weber" wrote in message > > news:lsadnRMTEfKQDM_eRVn-ig@bresnan.com... > > > > > > "benjamaniac" wrote in message > > > news:discs7$7ljm$1@news3.infoave.net... > > >> This coming up Thursday, my son and I are going to a little town > about > > >> 80 > > >> miles from here to look at buying the entire contents of a small closed > > >> up > > >> radio/TV repair shop that was in business from the '40's to the late > > >> '70's. > > >> Wish me luck on this one :))) > > >> Ben > > > > > > Ben. On some of the other buys you have made shows you are GOOD about > > > finding these things. Warren > > > > > I think what helps me find all these good deals is that I'm the > only > > show in town when it comes to vintage electronics...hell...I'm the only > show > > this side of only God knows how far on either side of me. That and I make > > sure to advertise, advertise, advertise. I think I'm picking up the pieces > > of the golden age of electronics in this area...the stuff that has been > > stashed around here because all the older folks here still talk about how > > tight things were in the Depression and they would NEVER think of throwing > > away things that might SOMEDAY be of use to somebody somewhere.There are > > still several stashes around here that I know of, but the families aren't > > ready to let go of them yet. Oh...the other thing that really helps is the > > fact that my wife was born and raised right here and she's related in > > someway or the other to almost everybody through blood or marriage within > > several hundred square miles. She is always putting the word out for me > and > > like I said...I make sure to run ads in the paper every so often, call in > on > > the local radio stations swap/buy/for sale type programs and generally > just > > keep my nose to the grindstone on search and find type missions. My goal > is > > to find, buy and stock up on everything I'll need to get me thru my > > retirement years. > > Ben > > > > > > > > > Article: 324383 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: My Alps printer is back on-line: custom decals Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:00:10 -0600 Message-ID: References: <3ni5f.102$jV2.25@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com> yeah, those crayon printers sure do a nice job. i remember selling one to a client about 13 years ago. they had a veggie stand and needed to print things that would be waterproof. thermal was the way to go. and even at 300dpi i still think its the best looking prints compared to color laser or inkjet. randy "Robert Murrell" wrote in message news:3ni5f.102$jV2.25@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com... >I got Windows XP drivers for my Alps MD-1000 thermal printer. I can now >print white, silver, and gold along with the standard C-Y-M and black. >Since its a thermal printer, its inks are waterproof. I bought some blank >waterslide decal sheets to try making custom decals. I need a good scan of >an RCA Radiola III decal, the black and gold one with the licensing info. >If someone can give me one, I'll return a duplicate decal, or another one. >All I need is a good scan to scale. The printer will only print 300dpi, so >the scan should be this quality or better. > > Robert Murrell > > Article: 324384 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: Subject: Re: GE FM "Translator" Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:12:31 -0400 "Bill" wrote in message news:b99e4$4355ba14$4232be27$2566@COQUI.NET... > ableradio@imax.net wrote: > I've seen these before on ebay but never took a close look at one. > Impressive, although kinda ugly. > > -Bill Yeah, I suppose they COULD have made a simpler cabinet, but not by much. So, then while I was toying with the thought of buying it, I notice the weight: 24 pounds? Besides the $25 to ship it, what are the chances of it arriving in one piece, with that kind of weight? Na. regards, Frank Article: 324385 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <3ni5f.102$jV2.25@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com> Subject: Re: My Alps printer is back on-line: custom decals Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 00:14:28 -0400 "Robert Murrell" wrote in message news:3ni5f.102$jV2.25@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com... >I got Windows XP drivers for my Alps MD-1000 thermal printer. I can now >print white, silver, and gold along with the standard C-Y-M and black. >Since its a thermal printer, its inks are waterproof. I bought some blank >waterslide decal sheets to try making custom decals. I need a good scan of >an RCA Radiola III decal, the black and gold one with the licensing info. >If someone can give me one, I'll return a duplicate decal, or another one. >All I need is a good scan to scale. The printer will only print 300dpi, so >the scan should be this quality or better. > > Robert Murrell Can you make a clear decal to go on glass to make a radio dial? Article: 324386 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: My Alps printer is back on-line: custom decals Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:45:37 -0600 Message-ID: References: <3ni5f.102$jV2.25@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com> my mistake... i thought this was a thermal wax printer.... randy "xrongor" wrote in message news:dj4gc5$2o3l$1@news3.infoave.net... > yeah, those crayon printers sure do a nice job. i remember selling one to > a client about 13 years ago. they had a veggie stand and needed to print > things that would be waterproof. thermal was the way to go. > > and even at 300dpi i still think its the best looking prints compared to > color laser or inkjet. > > randy > > "Robert Murrell" wrote in message > news:3ni5f.102$jV2.25@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com... >>I got Windows XP drivers for my Alps MD-1000 thermal printer. I can now >>print white, silver, and gold along with the standard C-Y-M and black. >>Since its a thermal printer, its inks are waterproof. I bought some blank >>waterslide decal sheets to try making custom decals. I need a good scan >>of an RCA Radiola III decal, the black and gold one with the licensing >>info. If someone can give me one, I'll return a duplicate decal, or >>another one. All I need is a good scan to scale. The printer will only >>print 300dpi, so the scan should be this quality or better. >> >> Robert Murrell >> >> > > Article: 324387 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.net> References: <1128938083.233323.265000@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128945642.584320.212650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1128952000.514326.260700@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <07adnRx24ZCMUNfeRVn-hw@comcast.com> <1128977446.241136.228330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128980065.028624.318730@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1128998997.748677.122190@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129028735.954400.214850@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1129050818.162277.121010@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1129054036.501491.153570@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1129059295.386054.94520@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1129705732.344952.100390@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: testing a transducer? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 07:48:35 GMT The doofus method- highly imitated and never duplicated (unless you have a doofus moment, of course)! ZOKAY, my friend. No growth occurs until one little doohicky has played a game with our brain cells once in a while LOL. Your diligence is acknowledged and hey, Good job! "frenchy" wrote in message news:1129705732.344952.100390@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Lesson in Electronics Stupidity #4,345: > > Oh I put that new transistor in there alright. Worked a little better > but still weak as hell. > Then I tried that 'point it at the dog' thing. She did nothing... till > I tried it while putting my finger on the ground plate that the > transducer is hooked to, then her ears perked up! Hmmmmmm.... > Then started looking at the hand unit chassis and realized - the front > metal faceplate that the buttons > poke thru is being used as a #$%@# ground! It connects the top of the > hand unit's chassis (mainly the ground of the > TRANSDUCER! Helloooo?!) with the rest of the circuitry down where the > transistor driving is done. Two ground plates connected via the > faceplate. Mega-duhhh. > Now the power is back up fantasticly (apparently cleaning the 'ducer > screen did the trick) but I've fooled around with the pots on it so > much getting pissed at it that I'll have to start back with those again > and align them so they zero in good on the functions, starting with the > color function I think. > But they are already pretty close so don't think that will be a problem > and they probably needed to be tweaked a bit anyway with the new caps > in there. Oh well. That's why putting my fingers in different places > was making it work a little - fingers are a poor ground for 5 volts but > they don't have zero resistance!. That's why it suddenly ' > quit working' after I cleaned the transducer screen out - after that I > didn't have the stupid plate attached!.....Argggh. > Frenchy > Article: 324388 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Carter-K8VT Subject: Re: Traffic info tansmitter References: <24075-4355B973-1606@storefull-3335.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: <4Np5f.175$jV2.4@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:06:40 GMT Gridleak wrote: > I just aquired a transmitter that was used by the higway department > to broadcast weather and road information on AM. I can find no info > on it and thought might be adaptable for use as a wireless phono. > DON AC7PD Don, Hopefully, you can find a way to reduce the power output. A wireless phono transmitter's range is measured in feet. The device you have has a range of miles. -73- Carter K8VT Article: 324389 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Robert Murrell" References: <3ni5f.102$jV2.25@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com> Subject: Re: My Alps printer is back on-line: custom decals Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 11:31:20 GMT I'm not sure how it will look on glass. I'm sure there will be plenty of bubble that will have to be squeezed out when applied. Plus, the material will not be optically clear and flat. It might end up looking like clear packing tape on the glass. "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message news:LKj5f.10632$ns3.744488@news20.bellglobal.com... > > Can you make a clear decal to go on glass to make a radio dial? > Article: 324390 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: AVC? References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:01:03 -0400 Have you fed audio in at the vol cont to see if the prob is rf or audio? Ken Daniele wrote: > I'm working on a Telefunken Domino, cheap set of the '50. > Completely recapped have good sensitivity, new tubes > (ECH81, EF89, EABC80, EL84) gave also strong sound. > Has distorted output, distortion increases > with volume and with strong signal, no hum. > I guessed a fault in the AVC but the eye (6BR5) works fine. > Alignment too is ok. > Is the AVC working correctly or eye tube behaviour is not a good point > to state AVC is/not working fine and others checks have to be performed? > Sincerely there is a good difference in hearing far or local signals. > I've tried in substituting the final audio cathode resistor from 80 to 150 > ohm > to reduce current with no success, still distortion, changing cathode > cap (sometimes missing) produces an obscure 'click' coming > from the power transformer... > Any help will be very appreciated. > > -- > > Daniele ^___^ > http://www.tuberadio.it > > Article: 324391 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: A superior console Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 09:04:55 -0400 Message-ID: <11lch3scoev722e@corp.supernews.com> References: <1129692328.515987.239000@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Jiri Placek wrote: > > > Scott: Mediocre design that seemed to cater to money without much > taste, good average cabinet workmanship Everything else you say is spot on, except both my Scott cabinets (DualDial 12 and Phantom) are the only sets I have made of solid walnut through and through. Both are indeed dowdy looking though. John H. Article: 324392 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: A superior console (was: FA Midwest 18 tuber console..not mine) Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 06:54:11 -0600 Message-ID: <15437-435641F3-14@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <1129692328.515987.239000@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Jiri there is nothng much to listen to on AM or SW anymore what makes those super scott radios better ? I had a Scott all wave 2 chassis here for restoration and it was really a good receiver . The one problem with it was that big huge disk band switch that was unstable at best . A Zenith 15 tube chassis worked just as well without band switch problems . Article: 324393 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OK,Gary Tayman, here you go! From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1129706364.569585.297110@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 13:09:37 GMT In article <1129706364.569585.297110@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, wa2ise@ix.netcom.com says... > > THey do exist... we have one here in Ft Wayne... its an old local operation... the current owner Jim Pembleton is 71 now.... has 10 years on me... his father started the business... it was an old electronics store business when I began going into the place buying parts in about 1954 or 55... it has moved three times since then into larger buildings and has migrated into a 90% surplus store rather than what it originally was.... and hate to say it.. but think that it also is doomed at this point and this guy has plenty of money and a zero debt to service.... and knowledge like crazy of the surplus business... in a town that generates surplus... although its nice to have a place like that... its one really tough business... only one I can think of that is similar... but different... they have a lot of variety of stuff that is currently used today Skycraft Surplus in Orlando, FL .... now that place is making money... John k9uwa Article: 324394 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Free shipping from France! Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 10:05:39 -0400 Message-ID: <11lcklnfo2do3bf@news.supernews.com> References: <1YudnY8_daz9T8jeRVn-gw@giganews.com> "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:1YudnY8_daz9T8jeRVn-gw@giganews.com... > Ebay item 6218438529 . > > Phil Nelson Lovely knock-off of the Predicta. The French do have a great sense of style... Of course, it won't work here, so why buy it? -- "Stay calm. Be brave. Wait for the signs." regards, Frank Johansen Aurora, Ontario Article: 324395 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1129707493.836560.232000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OK,Gary Tayman, here you go! Message-ID: Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:28:04 GMT Hmmm . . . I wonder how much of this I can sell at the upcoming swap meet. As for Skycraft, I've heard so much about it but I've never been there. If anyone from this area plans to go there, I might hop a ride, or you can ride with me. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1129707493.836560.232000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > There used to be a couple of stores like that in Denver and 1 in > Colorado Springs. They all went belly-up. > You'd need a large, cheap building. I think most of this stuff gets > recycled between hopeful, losing enterprises. Maybe they're fronts for > drugs or girls. > Article: 324396 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43565969.B5EB66D6@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: A superior console References: <1129692328.515987.239000@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11lch3scoev722e@corp.supernews.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:33:34 GMT Hagstar wrote: > > Jiri Placek wrote: > > > > > > Scott: Mediocre design that seemed to cater to money without much > > taste, good average cabinet workmanship > > Everything else you say is spot on, except both my Scott cabinets > (DualDial 12 and Phantom) are the only sets I have made of solid walnut > through and through. Both are indeed dowdy looking though. > > John H. That may be, but you can get away with it if you're solid walnut. ;-) -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 324397 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43565BA0.D3743F90@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: OK,Gary Tayman, here you go! References: <1129706364.569585.297110@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 14:43:01 GMT "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote: > > In article <1129706364.569585.297110@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>, > wa2ise@ix.netcom.com says... > > > > > > THey do exist... we have one here in Ft Wayne... its an old local > operation... the current owner Jim Pembleton is 71 now.... has 10 years > on me... his father started the business... it was an old electronics > store business when I began going into the place buying parts in > about 1954 or 55... it has moved three times since then into larger > buildings and has migrated into a 90% surplus store rather than > what it originally was.... and hate to say it.. but think that it > also is doomed at this point and this guy has plenty of money and > a zero debt to service.... and knowledge like crazy of the surplus > business... in a town that generates surplus... although its nice > to have a place like that... its one really tough business... > > only one I can think of that is similar... but different... they > have a lot of variety of stuff that is currently used today > > Skycraft Surplus in Orlando, FL .... now that place is making > money... > > John k9uwa John, you need to visit Dayton Ohio and spend a day at Mendelson's. Skycraft is a joke when its compared to Mendelson's operation. Mendelson's building covers a full city block, and is six and a half stories. The last time I was there, two full floors were open to the public, and the others were bulk storage and their offices. They are at 340 W 1st Street, not far from the 1st Street exit on I-75. If you are heading north, its to the right side of the interstate. The last figure I heard was over 100,000,000 business for a single year. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida Article: 324398 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43566253.37363DD1@earthlink.net> From: "Michael A. Terrell" Subject: Re: OK,Gary Tayman, here you go! References: <1129707493.836560.232000@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 19 Oct 2005 15:11:38 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > > Hmmm . . . > > I wonder how much of this I can sell at the upcoming swap meet. > > As for Skycraft, I've heard so much about it but I've never been there. If > anyone from this area plans to go there, I might hop a ride, or you can ride > with me. > > -- > Gary E. Tayman I haven't been there in a couple years, because its way past my driving range. You have to watch their prices because they don't know what they are doing, and almost always err on the high side. I've seen used parts there marked 10 times what I can buy it for new, and they have no idea if its good or bad. They wanted over $1000 for an old piece of tube test equipment you could pick up at any hamfest for $50 or less. They had several hundred pieces of test equipment on ther shelves, and a lot of it was missing parts. They get most of their stuff from Lockheed-Martin, or SK estates now that the Naval Training Center is gone. I was at the auction when another surplus store closed down. He would drop out of the bidding, unless it was against me, then he would keep going to a ridiculous price. I worked for an "Asset recovery company" in Altemont Springs for a while. He would lie to the owner about his prices and lowball the offer. He came in one day, spent several hours lining stuff up on the floor to make an offer. When he finished, he offered us $150 for two truck and one trailer load of parts. I told him no, that we had to have $ 1200 for the load. He shrugged and walked out, only to return a week later with the money. After that, any time I went in the store he would followe me everywhere I went. When I would find something I could use and the y had a reasonable price, I would take them all. When early NVRAM was $22 a chip, I bought 45 of them on PC boards for 25 cents each. They are on Fairbanks, right next to I-4, so it would be easy for you to get there from your area. -- ? Michael A. Terrell Central Florida