Article: 325114 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <433ddae4$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> <4342cde8$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> Subject: Re: Silvertone 4587A console Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 00:14:16 -0600 Message-ID: <4367058f$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net> Hi all Some of you may remember this poor sad painted console I picked up earlier this month: http://personalpages.tds.net/~pdieten/silv4587-before.jpg I managed to turn it back into something acceptable for polite society, I think..... http://personalpages.tds.net/~pdieten/silv4587-102905.jpg http://personalpages.tds.net/~pdieten/silv4587-102905b.jpg It's recapped, retubed (all but one were weak...) and reassembled. Bad quick snap taken in the basement: http://personalpages.tds.net/~pdieten/silv4587-done.jpg And yes, it really is a great receiving and sounding set. I like it a lot. Story here, if anybody cares to read it. http://personalpages.tds.net/~pdieten/silvertone4587.html This is my first complete console cabinet refinish. Be gentle.... :-) Regards, paul Article: 325115 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: For God's Sake- Stop and Think Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 22:01:11 -0800 Message-ID: References: TerryJ wrote: > I was taught to respect even low voltage. The IBM mainframes that I > serviced up until 1993 had power supplies with as low as 1.5 V but > supplied the current of several thousand amps through buss bars one > inch thick and 3-4 inches wide. Get a ring or watch between that and the > ground buss and your finger or hand would be gone and the supply might > not even kick out.... I NEVER wore a ring or watch for fear of > forgetting to take it off when servicing a machine. I had a co-worker WELD HIMSELF into a circuit powered by a 100 amp 5 volt power supply when his wedding ring shorted across the terminals. The breaker waited until there was just enough melted metal to make a very solid mechanical connection before it tripped (a split second, if even that). His finger swelled up almost immediately and we had to use a dremel tool to cut what was left of the ring in half to free him, and freon spray as anesthetic to make the pain bearable during the "surgery". The finger had third degree burns which took forever to heal and my collegue was out nearly $3000 for the ring. I wish I had taken a picture of it; my wife would never question why I don't wear my ring if she saw it. Jewelry and electronics don't mix :-( -Scott Article: 325116 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: You be the judge about this seller's integrity and attitude Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2005 23:45:12 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1130726413.873599.204580@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <80A9f.908$ZA3.213356@monger.newsread.com> <1130815039.190391.320680@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1130815039.190391.320680@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I don't have an urgent need for these, I like to stock up when > possible. I've bought sleeves of NIB 6F6 metals for as little as $3.50 > per tube on Ebay. BTW, I bought 17 used 6K7 tubes, a mix of metal, G, > and GT and paid $8.00 to have them shipped from Ohio to Colorado. shipping cost without item cost is meaningless. item cost without shipping cost is meaningless. you only pay total cost. you send the seller a whole pie and how you slice it is irrelevent. i will try one more time to illustrate the point then i will leave you to your own devices. ill sell you a shiny brand new penny for 10,000$. and I WILL PAY YOU TO RECEIVE THE ITEM!!! really!! ill pay you 9,000$ 'receiving cost' just to send it to you once the 10,000$ is in my hands. what a smoking deal!!! depending on what you're smoking that is... randy Article: 325117 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <433ddae4$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> <4342cde8$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> <4367058f$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net> Subject: Re: Silvertone 4587A console Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 06:52:01 GMT Excellent! But you didn't have any nightmarish cracks in the waterfall curve or veneer matching to achieve, like I needed : ((( : ))) You did an admirable job, and you can be justifiably proud of it. You Saved It! "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:4367058f$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net... > Hi all > > Some of you may remember this poor sad painted console I picked up earlier > this month: > http://personalpages.tds.net/~pdieten/silv4587-before.jpg > > I managed to turn it back into something acceptable for polite society, I > think..... > http://personalpages.tds.net/~pdieten/silv4587-102905.jpg > http://personalpages.tds.net/~pdieten/silv4587-102905b.jpg > > It's recapped, retubed (all but one were weak...) and reassembled. Bad quick > snap taken in the basement: > http://personalpages.tds.net/~pdieten/silv4587-done.jpg > > And yes, it really is a great receiving and sounding set. I like it a lot. > > Story here, if anybody cares to read it. > http://personalpages.tds.net/~pdieten/silvertone4587.html > > This is my first complete console cabinet refinish. Be gentle.... :-) > > Regards, paul > > > Article: 325118 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Rune" References: Subject: Re: eBay and "Non-selling Sellers"? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 06:54:09 GMT It happens. You all will have it happen if you do enough buying there. Most give an excuse like "I dropped it and broke it." Some just go silent. That's why I don't like sellers that want only money orders. It can take months to get a refund if they welsh on a sale. I've had a couple this year. Luckily they were both PayPal deals and I got a refund on both when they didn't care to respond to them either. If they just refuse to provide shipping info or close the deal there isn't much you can do from a practical standpoint. EBay won't care as long as nobody is out money and they collect the auction fee regardless. The garbage about "binding contracts" is only pursued for high-ticket stuff. You see them on People's Court and Judge Judy now and then. If you bad feedback them they will probably do the same with a sob story blaming you. A warning though - if they relist it do NOT email the bidders that bid on it. EBay _will_ punish _you_ for interfering with an auction and contacting other members if someone dimes you out. Yeah, it sucks. Ray "Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message news:ZK2dnRhkkM5A7_venZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@gbronline.com... > John Byrns wrote: >> Since the subject of eBay is near and dear to most everyone on this >> group, >> I thought I would ask if anyone has had any experience with how eBay >> deals >> with "Non-selling Sellers"? The seller in an auction where I was the >> high >> bidder seems to want to welsh on the deal, so I am wondering what my >> options are? The seller didn't set a high enough starting bid, or use a >> reserve, and I am sure he expected that the winning bid would contain at >> least another significant digit, and probably a higher leading digit. >> >> On a related subject, there was a discussion here a while back about >> changes eBay made to the feedback system, which as I remember it >> basically >> neutered negative feedback against sellers, does anyone remember the >> details of the changes relating negative feedback for sellers? >> >> >> Regards, >> >> John Byrns >> >> >> Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ > > Just like your bid is a contract to purchase the item at the price you bid > if you win the acution, his putting the item up for auction is a contract > to sell at the winning high bid, whether he thinks the bid was high enough > or not. Not setting a reserve or starting at a higher starting bid is his > problem, not yours. Article: 325119 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <76D9f.4023$AS6.1085@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Which war? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 06:56:36 GMT "Omer Suleimanagich" wrote in message news:j7E9f.2835$2y.2755@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net... > Then that radio is one radio a few years ahead in styling! > > Omer Yes, it is one of the best plastic sets Sears ever sold by design alone IMO, and why that wooden Philco table set is fetching 150+ and almost the same chassis I gather is at 9.99 with no bidders along with the Silvertone escapes me. Perhapsft's PRICE doesn't follow suit I might try hard to own it, box and all. > "Randy or Sherry Guttery" wrote in message > news:fcD9f.23162$wG.15657@bignews4.bellsouth.net... > > Omer Suleimanagich wrote: > > > >> Check this unit out! > >> > >> I'm not sure which war the seller was refering to > >> > >> http://cgi.ebay.com/Beautiful-working-prewar-Silvertone-bakelite-radio_W0QQitemZ6574662059QQcategoryZ38034QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting > > > > The "Commentator" hit the streets in 1939; which - for the United > > States - was pre-WWII... > > > > best regards... > > -- > > randy guttery > > > > A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews > > so vital to the United States Silent Service: > > http://tendertale.com > > Article: 325120 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Good Philco day. Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:14:49 GMT Just spent most of the evening working on a little Philco 40-81T. It's a little BCB-only portable covered in airplane cloth. I bought in an eBay auction from a seller in Winnipeg. It arrived promptly, and met the description and photos well, too. Some prior owner had put long extension wires on the battery harness with a total of three plugs. These, and the original battery harness were rubber-covered wire, and pretty crisp. I pulled the chassis out of the cabinet, and replaced the rotten wires with some plastic-coated ones I stripped out of an old PC power supply. Replaced all the paper caps with mylars, and replaced the lone 8 uF electrolytic. The wafer tube sockets (octal) in this set don't have holes in the lugs; component wires are wrapped around them. PITA to re-cap it. There were rubber-insulated wires leading from each IF can, but they appeared intact, if stiff, so I left well-enough alone. Gave the volume control a shot of cleaner/lube, and powered it up with a D cell for the A supply, and a stack of 9 volt transistor batteries for the B. Turned it on, and it began playing right away. Seemed to have a flaky connection at the convertor tube, so I shut it down, and carefully pinched the socket pins with needle-nose pliers. Put the chassis back in the cabinet, and hooked up the loop antenna again (it's wrapped around the outside of the cabinet, under the cloth covering). Reconnected the batteries, turned it on, and it plays just fine, other than cutting out once more, apparently still due to a flaky connection associated with the 1A7G. But it's been playing steadily now for about a half hour, getting good reception on 580 kHz >from a station over 150 miles distant. And I'm in the basement right now. I have to say I'm impressed with its sensitivity. And it has pretty decent tone quality, too. The only thing missing is the back of the cabinet, which apparently incorporates the battery holder, given as there is no sign of any elsewhere in the cabinet. But I'm sure I can make an effective replacement. Anybody know where I can get some matching airplane cloth? What motivated me to get this particular set is that this past summer, I saw a nearly identical set at the Studebaker Drivers Club International Meet in Spokane, Washington. Identical in nearly all respects, except it bore a little "Studebaker" badge on the front panel between the speaker grille and the dialcover. Apparently Philco had a marketing arrangement with Studebaker to brand the radio as Studebaker and sell it as an accessory for the automobile. Back then, you could get fitted luggage, and other nifty accessories, too. Philco did make the car radio for these models, too. Seeing as I have a 1940 Champion, this little radio would be a perfect period accessory. And funny thing, it has a faint pale spot right where that Studebaker badge would go. I wonder if there are any identifying numbers on the chassis that would confirm whether it was indeed branded for Studebaker (or maybe another car maker)? I couldn't even find the model number on the chassis, but was able to positively identify it by a picture on philcoradio.com It does have P 8386 stamped in the rear panel of the chassis, and it is a Canadian-made Philco, as evidenced by "made in Canada" marks on a number of the caps and tubes. In any case, once I put a back on the case, it'll look cool in the trunk of my car. I'm really delighted to have found this radio, and even more delighted that it was a relatively easy matter to make it play again. Gordon Richmond Article: 325121 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:08:34 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Zenith 10-S-567 question References: <5sidm1tj7eslq2r2fjkgs6d30a9j5sumsc@4ax.com> Message-ID: <1d66a$43674cb5$4232bd23$28645@COQUI.NET> Blacksmith wrote: > The bass, treble, etc push buttons on the left of the dial. > Are there supposed to be springs in the control to keep the buttons > out, or do you have to pull them out with your fingernails to > disengage them? > > The buttons push in but then stay in. My Zenith is as you describe. No springs. You must wear long fingernails to disengage the buttons. -Bill Article: 325122 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:14:05 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Looking for x-tals: 740, 1240 or 1250 khz References: Message-ID: Stephanie Weil wrote: > Hi folks. > > I'm looking for a crystal for either 740, 1240 or 1250 khz. It's for a small AM transmitter. > > Would anyone have one they could sell or know someplace I could order just one? You should be able to order just one from JAN Crystals. Getting up in the $25 range counting mailing, etc. Ouch! If you could use one in the 1020-1080 range I have a bunch of those. -Bill Article: 325123 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 07:21:09 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Silvertone 4587A console References: <433ddae4$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> <4342cde8$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> <4367058f$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net> Message-ID: Paul Dietenberger wrote: > Story here, if anybody cares to read it. > http://personalpages.tds.net/~pdieten/silvertone4587.html > > This is my first complete console cabinet refinish. Be gentle.... :-) > > Regards, paul > > > Nice job. I like those huge-dial consoles. -Bill Article: 325124 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: APEX Super Five From: "LOP" Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 06:43:02 -0800 Message-ID: <1130856336_891@spool6-east.superfeed.net> I have purchased an Apex Super Five and it is missing the wooden cabinet part just above the radio front panel. Did some of these radios come with this part not included or did my radio just come with this part missing? Thanks, Don and Liz ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Article: 325125 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <3sn2emFonmfiU1@individual.net> <3sn7hkFp374gU1@individual.net> <1130857893.982379.240560@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Sparton Bluebird Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:27:28 GMT Path: monger.newsread.com!newshog.newsread.com!news-toy.newsread.com!yellow.newsre ad.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!newsfeed.stueberl.de!news.glorb.com!postnews. google.com!f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: CitibankMoneytransfer@gmail.com Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Sparton Bluebird Date: 1 Nov 2005 07:11:34 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Lines: 6 Message-ID: <1130857893.982379.240560@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <3sn2emFonmfiU1@individual.net> <3sn7hkFp374gU1@individual.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.139.169.195 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1130857899 25754 127.0.0.1 (1 Nov 2005 15:11:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 15:11:39 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1; Crazy Browser 2.0.1),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) X-HTTP-Via: 1.1 vplus.qkon.com:3128 (Squid/2.4.STABLE7) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=216.139.169.195; posting-account=TfiDxw0AAACT2crVZmW4SAverqxSFKAL Xref: news-toy.newsread.com rec.antiques.radio+phono:451473 wrote in message news:1130857893.982379.240560@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > WE WILL LIKE TO BUY PHONES FROM YOU SO REPLY US BACK > > > > CITI BANK > Article: 325126 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130726413.873599.204580@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <80A9f.908$ZA3.213356@monger.newsread.com> <1130815039.190391.320680@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130844636.240667.151690@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: You be the judge about this seller's integrity and attitude Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:29:01 GMT I don't want that much money. I want the Silvertone plastic set I saw yesterday. "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1130844636.240667.151690@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I will do you one better: > > I will put up $100,000 in a bond at any bank we agree upon and in any > similar location. > This $100,000 will be yours on December 31, 2005; in time for one > helluva New Year's Party. This money would be put up on/before November > 30, 2005. > > To earn this money you must: > > Starting on December 1, 2005; you send me $0.01. Or, you post this > amount in the same bank as used above bonded to me. > On December 2, 2005; you send me $0.02 as above. > On December 3, 2005; you send me $0.04 as above. > On December 4, 2005; you send me $0.08 as above. > On December 5, 2005; you send me $0.16 as above. > > And so-forth in this series until you send me your last payment as > above on December 30. > > > Any takers? > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 325127 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Good Philco day. Message-ID: References: <1130865037.644949.88490@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 18:08:53 GMT Neil, It's pretty much a dead ringer for the 40-81T in the gallery section of philcoradio.com. I'm pressed for time right now, but when I get a chance, I'll take a digital picture and e-mail it to you. I did make a back for the set out of piece of 1/8" plywood, and taped the batteries to it. If I can round up a piece of airplane cloth, I'll make a proper back that incorporates battery holders. The radio is still intermittent, and I have a hunch that there is a bad solder joint within the base of the 1A7G tube. The base is a little loose on the glass envelope. Gordon Richmond Article: 325128 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 14:13:58 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: APEX Super Five References: <1130856336_891@spool6-east.superfeed.net> Message-ID: <1fc68$4367b06a$4232bd81$12117@COQUI.NET> LOP wrote: > I have purchased an Apex Super Five and it is missing the wooden cabinet > part just above the radio front panel. Did some of these radios come with > this part not included or did my radio just come with this part missing? > > Thanks, Don and Liz I had a 5-tube Apex, can't recall if it was the Super Five, but it was also missing this piece. I think it just slipped into place after the chassis was slid into place. Being a 'loose part' I can see how these might go astray. -Bill Article: 325129 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Randy or Sherry Guttery Subject: Re: Hickok 546 and Loktals References: <1130860219.525508.302180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 12:59:35 -0600 TopCat wrote: > I am trying to resurrect a badly abused Philco 40-145. > > I have an obscure Hickok model 546 (similar to obscure 547 and 548). I > tried to test the loktals, 7G7,7J7,7B7, and 7B5 and I got strange > results. > If anyone has one of these testers I would appreciate it if you would > verify the settings for the 7G7. Also, is there some kind of damage to > the grid that can cause this sort of thing? Well - it's been almost 4 years - so maybe it's time to re-post a "chalk talk" on the wild and crazy world of Hickok tube tester - esp. the TV-Xs With only a couple of exceptions (which you'll know by them being *TOTALLY* different)- there are two "schemes" for Hickok switch matrix - *straight* 1 to 1 (i.e. switch position 1 goes to pin 1, etc.) and *bus* - where the sockets are wired in such a way that the majority of tubes can be tested with a minimum of switch changes. A little history. In the beginning - there were triodes. Triodes have three elements - and require four pins to make the connections. When the industry settled on some "standards" the basic 4 pin tube as we know it emerged - the EIA base 4D - The filament was between pins 1 & 4 - the Plate was pin 2 and the grid pin 3. This is the base for '01s, 199s, 26s, 45s, etc. Then came the AC triode - with it's isolated cathode. A new pin was needed - but for whatever reason - the decision was made to leave the filament on the first & last pins (now 1 & 5) -- the plate and grid remained on 2 & 3 - with the new cathode connected to the now available pin 4. As more elements were added - the connections were made by either adding another pin to the base and / or a grid cap - but through 7 pins - one thing remained (with few exceptions) - the filament was always the first and last pins. Then came octals. The elements were scrambled - *but* - in the great majority of cases - the filament wound up between pins 2 & 7. Then came "the rest" - but even among them there are some "majorities" in which the filaments "wind up" on the same pins - 7 pin minis: 3 & 4; 9 pin minis: 4 & 5; Loktals: 1 & 8. Fast times on the TV-x's: Somebody in the military figured out that much time (and possibly wear) could be saved - if the tube testers could be wired such that certain switch settings would cover the largest possible number (most common) tubes without having to change the switches --- hence the advent of the "bus" wiring topology in many of the TV-x's. The various sockets are wired such that the most common *functional* pins are common: so - bus 1 (coming from the switch bank's #1 position(s)) goes to: Socket Pin 4Pin 1 5Pin 1 6Pin 1 7Pin 1 Octal 2 Loktal 1 7PinMini 3 9PinMini 4 and so on. The "second" bus is similar - but remember - this it's *usually* the other end of the filament - which is usually the last pin (with the noted exceptions): Socket Pin 4Pin 4 5Pin 5 6Pin 6 7Pin 7 Octal 7 Loktal 8 7PinMini 4 9PinMini 5 and so on. So here is the thrust of the point: without changing the filament selector switches - the greatest number of tubes can be tested - as one "setting" is wired to the "most common" pins on the sockets - at least for the filaments. And for those tubes that are "exceptions" - well - you've got the other switch positions to accommodate those. What about the "other" busses? Plate Grid, screen and suppresser? Fortunately - they are wired 1 - 1 - except when they "cross" the filament. Let's take a common tube as an example: 6SK7: F1=2 F2=7 G=4 P=8 Scn=6 C=5 Sup=3 In a 1:1 scheme - you just set the switches as above. In a "bus" scheme - you have to reverse two leads - as they "cross" the filament (remember - in an octal pin2 is really on bus 1; Pin 7 is on Bus 8). OK - 2&1 are crossed - but pin one (on the tube) is a shield - not used - so ignored. Pins 7 & 8 are crossed - 8 is the plate - so set the plate *switch* to 7. Cathode, grid, screen and suppresser are unaffected - so set them as above. Is this correct? Let's see what the setup chart for a 6SK7 for a TV-10 is: JR4-7653 So yes, it works. Wait a minute - what about the filament???? JR isn't 1 & 8 as I count them! or are they? Well - yes and no. First - the filament switches - for whatever reason - have 10 positions - A - K / P - Z - while the greatest socket pin number is pin 9. Positions A (switch 1) and P (switch 2) do *not* connect the filament source(s) to the sockets - i.e. an "off" position if you will. So position B (switch 1) and R (switch 2) are pin -- (ooops - see even I screw it up once in a while!!!!) are *bus* one... and so on --- Here are the assignments: Bus Sw1 Sw2 -(off) A P 1 B R 2 C S 3 D T 4 E U 5 F V 6 G W 7 H X 8 J Y 9 K Z So reading here - we see that JR selects bus 8 & 1 - which in the case of the octal socket - are pins 7 & 2. (why they go 7 - 2 instead of 2 - 7 *I think* has to due with the phasing of the filament vs. the grid signal when working with direct heated cathodes - but this is a guess). So.... yes - it's a bit of a pain for testing tubes from the manual rather than a chart - but you can work it out with a bit of thought - and a little reminder from a "bus chart"... Here is the "bus chart" for this "scheme": Pin Buss Pin Buss Pin Buss Pin Buss 4 Pin 1 1 5 Pin 1 1 6 Pin 1 1 7 Pin 1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 3 4 8 4 4 4 4 4 4 5 8 5 5 5 5 6 8 6 6 7 8 mini7 1 3 acorn 1 1 in-line1 1 submini1 1 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 3 1 3 3 3 3 3 3 4 8 4 4 4 4 4 4 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 5 6 6 6 8 6 6 6 6 7 7 7 6 7 7 7 7 bottom 7 8 8 Octal 1 2 Locktal 1 1 noval 1 1 2 1 2 2 2 2 3 3 3 3 3 3 4 4 4 4 4 4 5 5 5 5 5 5 6 6 6 6 6 6 7 8 7 7 7 7 8 7 8 8 8 8 9 9 And of course - being this is a crazy scheme anyway - the last tube socket on the bus is an exception from the scheme - the noval (9 pin miniature) is wired 1:1... so most filaments wind up EV... go figure. Anyway - to set the tester for a tube using a tube manual (rather than chart)- just translate the pin numbers from the book - to the bus number for the appropriate socket from the table. Here is an easy way to do it - again using a 6SK7 as an example: jot down the elements in a column - and note the basing pin numbers from the manual for that tube. Using the table above - make appropriate "swaps".... (and using the number to letter for the filament switches) Elem. By the book Translate (octal) F 7 7 -> 8 -> J F 2 2 -> 1 -> R G 4 4 -> 4 P 8 8 -> 7 S 6 6 -> 6 C 5 5 -> 5 S 3 3 -> 3 then reading down = JR47653 (we've seen this somewhere before). It can (and probably will) be debated whether the "bus scheme" really saves on time and wear and tear. In the military - a tech wasn't likely to run across a tube that wasn't in the chart(s) - so the ability to test "from the manual" was considered unimportant. I keep a copy of the table handy (one in the techman - another tacked up by the bench) for those rare times I do need to fly by the seat of my pants... And for those tubes (like the short pin 99s) that don't have a socket - you can easily make an adapter with 9 color alligator leads soldered to an old 9 pin header 1:1 and then the Hickok switches can be set 1:1: 1 - Brown 2 - Red 3 - Orange 4 - Yellow 5 - Green 6 - Blue 7 - Purple (ok Violet) 8 - Gray 9 - White Obviously - you could use only 8 leads and use the Loctal socket - or - wire the "reverses" in and use the octal socket... Then there is the bias control. If one is "flying by the seat of their pants" - one needs to know where to set the thing. Here are is a table that will get you in the ballpark: 0=0.0V 30= 5.5V 60=17V 90=34V 5=0.5V 35= 7.5V 65=19V 95=38V 10=0.75V 40= 9.0V 70=22V 100=40V 15=1.5V 45=10.0V 75=25V 20=2.5V 50=12.0V 80=28V 25=4.0V 55=15.0V 85=31V Note: (this part thanks to Alan Douglas - Mr. Test Equipment) you also need to consider the P-P test voltage on the grid - (which in most Hickoks is 1.414V, 2.828V or 14.14V depending on the range switch setting) - otherwise you'll drive the grid positive... Take for instance a V99 - tube data calls for -4.5V bias - (which would be a setting of around 27 or so) yet the Hickok tube chart lists 55 - (15V) you can see that this will keep the grid from going positive. So one thing you can do is to test a known good tube - note what bias setting produces the "expected" gM, and test the suspect tube using that. Alternatively - if you know another tube type that is similar that you DO have the bias setting for - then obviously - use that. Since we're mostly interested in whether the tube is just good or bad at this point - a little common sense and trial and error should tell us at least that. You might want to keep a notebook with your tester to record the settings once you figure them out. Last thing on testing - remaining tube life. Most Hickok TV-Xs don't have a "life test" switch - but Hickok suggest (in most TV-x manuals) that you reduce the filament voltage a notch and watch the meter - if it doesn't drop much (less than 20%) - the tube likely has a long life - i.e. plenty of reserve capacity. However - if the meter drops a lot (more than 20%) - the tube is on it's last legs- with little to no reserve capacity. Hope this helps more than it confuses... (and again thanks to Alan for his input on this) best regards... -- randy guttery A Tender Tale - a page dedicated to those Ships and Crews so vital to the United States Silent Service: http://tendertale.com Article: 325130 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Silvertone 4587A console Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 14:10:37 -0500 Message-ID: <11mffdfrs09bdb1@corp.supernews.com> References: <433ddae4$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> <4342cde8$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> <4367058f$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net> Mark Oppat wrote: > affordable, excellent sets. They > sell for reasonable prices, USED to sell anyway- http://cgi.ebay.com/Art-deco-Antique-Tube-Radio-Silvertone-floor-Console_W0QQitemZ6572300860 http://cgi.ebay.com/Silvertone-Console-Wood-Radio-4586-BEAUTIFUL-Case_W0QQitemZ6570248594 John H. Article: 325131 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: For God's Sake- Stop and Think Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 14:14:28 -0500 Message-ID: <11mffkmhqhr41f1@corp.supernews.com> References: <11mcq1nq9ol3p34@corp.supernews.com> <1130870861.316413.254370@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Peter Wieck wrote: > http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/110105dntexpastorfolo.162de6d6.html > > > For those who don't wish to register, here is the link to this same story I posted on this thread yesterday- http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/31/national/main995829.shtml Things like this make me feel less guilty, knowing other people read the whole thread as infrequently or even less often than I do :) John H. Article: 325132 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Sparton Bluebird Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 14:20:32 -0500 Message-ID: <11mfg034i1ad64f@corp.supernews.com> References: <3sn2emFonmfiU1@individual.net> <3sn7hkFp374gU1@individual.net> <1130857893.982379.240560@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> CitibankMoneytransfer@gmail.com wrote: > WE WILL LIKE TO BUY PHONES FROM YOU SO REPLY US BACK > That's phonO, not PHONE, you Nigerian bozo!! John H. Article: 325133 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <433ddae4$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> <4342cde8$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> <4367058f$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net> <11mffdfrs09bdb1@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Silvertone 4587A console Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:32:57 GMT Now Ken G. can stop giving me crap. "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11mffdfrs09bdb1@corp.supernews.com... > Mark Oppat wrote: > > > affordable, excellent sets. They > > sell for reasonable prices, > > USED to sell anyway- > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Art-deco-Antique-Tube-Radio-Silvertone-floor-Console_W0QQitemZ6572300860 > http://cgi.ebay.com/Silvertone-Console-Wood-Radio-4586-BEAUTIFUL-Case_W0QQitemZ6570248594 > > John H. > > > Article: 325134 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <3sn2emFonmfiU1@individual.net> <3sn7hkFp374gU1@individual.net> <1130857893.982379.240560@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <11mfg034i1ad64f@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Sparton Bluebird Message-ID: <8rP9f.969$ZA3.223632@monger.newsread.com> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:34:28 GMT Why do you assume the Nigerians are the stoopids doing this? nevermind... "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11mfg034i1ad64f@corp.supernews.com... > CitibankMoneytransfer@gmail.com wrote: > > > WE WILL LIKE TO BUY PHONES FROM YOU SO REPLY US BACK > > > > That's phonO, not PHONE, you Nigerian bozo!! > > John H. > Article: 325135 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <76D9f.4023$AS6.1085@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net> <-aednTlFj9GVI_reRVn-ug@giganews.com> Subject: Re: Which war? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:37:20 GMT Yeah, but I don't think I could afford it where I think it's going. One of us is nibbling at it too. If you are serious, email privately and I'll keep looking or leave accordingly. "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:-aednTlFj9GVI_reRVn-ug@giganews.com... > Some people call that model the "Candy Cane" for obvious reasons. I believe > it was also produced with an ivory cabinet and red "cane" & buttons. > > Phil Nelson > > Article: 325136 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: WTB: Missing Cabinet Pert for apex Super Five From: "LOP" Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 11:45:45 -0800 Message-ID: <1130874498_1183@spool6-east.superfeed.net> I am missing the horizontal cabinet piece the mounts above the radio front panel. If you have one of these for sale please contact me. Don and Liz ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- Article: 325137 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <11mcq1nq9ol3p34@corp.supernews.com> <1130870861.316413.254370@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mffkmhqhr41f1@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: For God's Sake- Stop and Think Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:57:21 GMT Wireless mike for the Darwin Award winner, huh... "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11mffkmhqhr41f1@corp.supernews.com... > > > Peter Wieck wrote: > > > http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/110105dntexpastorfolo.162de6d6.html > > > > > > > > For those who don't wish to register, here is the link to this same > story I posted on this thread yesterday- > > > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/31/national/main995829.shtml > > Things like this make me feel less guilty, knowing other people read the > whole thread as infrequently or even less often than I do :) > > John H. > Article: 325138 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <11mcq1nq9ol3p34@corp.supernews.com> <1130870861.316413.254370@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mffkmhqhr41f1@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: For God's Sake- Stop and Think Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:59:19 GMT Yay. That's enough for those who couldn't rent enough action flicks this week. "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message news:BMP9f.975$ZA3.223698@monger.newsread.com... > Wireless mike for the Darwin Award winner, huh... > > "Hagstar" wrote in message > news:11mffkmhqhr41f1@corp.supernews.com... > > > > > > Peter Wieck wrote: > > > > > > http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/110105dntexpastorfolo.162de6d6.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > For those who don't wish to register, here is the link to this same > > story I posted on this thread yesterday- > > > > > > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/31/national/main995829.shtml > > > > Things like this make me feel less guilty, knowing other people read the > > whole thread as infrequently or even less often than I do :) > > > > John H. > > > > Article: 325139 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: Subject: Re: eBay and "Non-selling Sellers"? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 20:49:40 GMT John Byrns wrote: > Since the subject of eBay is near and dear to most everyone on this > group, [cut] ..May 2005, thread 'eBay seller remorse'.. i was reporting something similar, the auction was the 6531789949 (no pictures but still readable here). The seller wasn't shipping to Italy but..: The item was a Zenith shutterdial, pictures were showing a very good chassis, very nice to see too. > just a question to ask you if could be troubles in shipping this chassis to > ITALY. > Many thanks, > Daniele ---- 18 May Daniele, Hello, I am willing to ship the chassis to Italy but I do ask that international bidders pay via paypal (including an extra handling fee equal to 3.9% of the total cost). Thank you, Scott ---- ...................auction ended.. Hello Danielle & thank you for your high bid on the radio chassis. Unfortunately I have some bad news; I dropped the radio chassis while I was trying to take it off its shelf in order to pack it. It hit the concrete floor in my basement & was badly damaged. Obviously I don't expect you to send payment for the radio chassis now that it is a mess. I'm sorry about this accident & hope you'll accept my apology. Thank you, Scott > Hi Scott, > that's really a bad notice, but i have a couple of other > 'abandoned' shutterdial chassis that will help, you may want > to send me some pictures, we can evaluate the damage > and then complete transaction positively with a serious offer. > Daniele Hello Danielle, I'm sorry to tell you I threw the chassis out in yesterdays garbage. I was so annoyed with myself for dropping the chassis I just wanted to get rid of it and forget it. It landed top down so most of the tubes were broke but I salvaged a few if you are interested. Best regards, Scott ---------------------------------------------- End. -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 325140 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: For God's Sake- Stop and Think Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 06:48:14 +0900 Message-ID: References: <11mcq1nq9ol3p34@corp.supernews.com> <1130870861.316413.254370@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mffkmhqhr41f1@corp.supernews.com> "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message news:BMP9f.975$ZA3.223698@monger.newsread.com... > Wireless mike for the Darwin Award winner, huh... Now that's really rude, and cold. I'm thinking maybe some jail time for whomever wired the church... or cut the ground pin off the PA cord.. no way this should/could have happened with proper wiring. Article: 325141 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Silvertone 4587A console Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 16:52:59 -0500 Message-ID: <11mfotthkls11b8@corp.supernews.com> References: <433ddae4$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> <4342cde8$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> <4367058f$1_3@newspeer2.tds.net> <11mffdfrs09bdb1@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > > > USED to sell anyway- To be fair, my own gold dial console was eighty bucks at Kutztown. John H. Article: 325142 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: You be the judge about this seller's integrity and attitude From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1130726413.873599.204580@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:23:19 GMT In article <1130726413.873599.204580@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, menwagoh@msn.com says... > > >Ebay item 5823812792, 5 6F6 tubes. Seller's original listing said I would be worried a whole lot more about the fact that this seller is a zero newbie who is selling some high buck tubes... some may be looking pretty soon for a guido collector in the sellers area me thinks.... I have seen those numbers in front of those tubes someplace else other than on this guys auctions.. just don't remember where. John k9uwa Article: 325143 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: Hickok 546 and Loktals References: <1130860219.525508.302180@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:33:30 GMT Did you have look underneath the socket to make sure everything is A OK as far as the connections and wiring are concerned? TopCat wrote: > I am trying to resurrect a badly abused Philco 40-145. > > I have an obscure Hickok model 546 (similar to obscure 547 and 548). I > tried to test the loktals, 7G7,7J7,7B7, and 7B5 and I got strange > results. All of them pegged the meter when testing Gm on the highest > scale (0-10000). Two other tubes from the same radio tested as shorted. > My tester did not come with a chart so I have been using a chart from a > TV3/U. It's been working OK. I have checked the calibration on the > tester and seems to be OK. The bias setting for the 7G7 is 18. This > should be about 2.3 volts according to one website. I measured 2.5v DC > grid to cathode. The signal measures 5.1 VAC. Plate was 150 or so and > screen was about 125 if I remember correctly. Reducing the signal to 1v > (signal low switch) still has them reading way high but on scale. > Cranking the bias up to 36 brings Gm down to where I expected it to be > (for the 7G7). > > If anyone has one of these testers I would appreciate it if you would > verify the settings for the 7G7. Also, is there some kind of damage to > the grid that can cause this sort of thing? > > Thanks > Article: 325144 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Silvertone 4587A console Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 18:45:53 -0700 Message-ID: <7360-43681A51-1069@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: Steven if i were you i would put that radio on ebay tomorrow . make sure to mention all the holes in it . Article: 325145 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve" Subject: WTB:chassis for Mot VT71, 73, or 9VT1 TV set Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 02:17:02 GMT Hi Guys and Gals, As the heading says, I'm looking a chassis for an early Motorola TV that uses electrostatic deflection. I don't need the cabinet, CRT, or even the tubes. All of the transformers and coils need to be good (continuity test will do). Preferably unmolested. The cheaper, the better of course.... Steve Article: 325146 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 22:23:48 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: who do you recommend to rewind xformer? References: <1130897411.248150.100050@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Eddie Brimer wrote: > power transformer. thanks. > Eddie, I only know of one guy and his prices to rewind would be considerably higher than getting a new custom-made one from Heyboer. -Bill Article: 325147 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <1130897411.248150.100050@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: who do you recommend to rewind xformer? Message-ID: <3LV9f.3140$2y.1977@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 02:45:19 GMT I had these guys in Chatsworth ,California make a replicate with updated materials for my German Telefunken Opus 55 last year. http://www.jacksonengineering.com/low-bandwidth/ If they could make a copy of a foreign transformer , they can do anything! Most of all they take great pride in their work and are affordable. Omer "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1130897411.248150.100050@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > power transformer. thanks. > Article: 325148 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Coincidence at the AK Corral? Message-ID: Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 22:07:05 -0500 "Audiokarma.org has experienced a database corruption. Please bear with us, as we work to repair and recover from this issue." This, right after an interesting week of light banter and cheery good feelings. ::koff:: No, really. Article: 325149 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: For God's Sake- Stop and Think References: <1130877755.306648.113250@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 03:13:21 GMT Peter Wieck wrote: > David: > > You dodged a bullet... We are all thankful for that. I guess your > destination was not yet ready for you... and that speaks well of you > (hee hee). In my case, it's as the old Irish saying goes... "God doesn't want ya, and the Devil's afraid you'll take over." Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325150 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: For God's Sake- Stop and Think Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:32:31 -0800 Message-ID: References: <11mcq1nq9ol3p34@corp.supernews.com> <1130870861.316413.254370@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mffkmhqhr41f1@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > > > Peter Wieck wrote: > >> http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dws/news/texassouthwest/stories/110105dntexpastorfolo.162de6d6.html >> >> >> >> > > For those who don't wish to register, here is the link to this same > story I posted on this thread yesterday- > > > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/31/national/main995829.shtml two words: wireless mike three more words: battery operated PA What a senseless tragedy. -Scott Article: 325151 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: For God's Sake- Stop and Think Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:45:28 -0800 Message-ID: References: <11mcq1nq9ol3p34@corp.supernews.com> <1130870861.316413.254370@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mffkmhqhr41f1@corp.supernews.com> Brenda Ann wrote: > "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message > news:BMP9f.975$ZA3.223698@monger.newsread.com... > >>Wireless mike for the Darwin Award winner, huh... > > > Now that's really rude, and cold. > > I'm thinking maybe some jail time for whomever wired the church... or cut > the ground pin off the PA cord.. no way this should/could have happened with > proper wiring. > > > Agreed, but there's simply too many variables in any wiring scheme to make using an AC powered device in this manner 100% safe 100% of the time.....How many musicians in this group have heard horror stories of performers being electrocuted when rain fell during an outdoor concert? Best to use wireless mikes for the baptisms, just like musicians now do. I hope this story gets passed around to every church in the country. -Scott Article: 325152 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Columbia motor needed Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 21:00:45 -0700 Message-ID: <26282-436839ED-1533@storefull-3336.bay.webtv.net> I have asked most of the phono groups and will try here . I have a very nice Columbia BI phonograph that is missing the motor. I would like to make it functional instead of a display item. It requires the motor with 4 mounting bolts. DON AC7PD Article: 325153 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Zenith 10-S-567 question Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 19:58:29 -0800 Message-ID: References: <5sidm1tj7eslq2r2fjkgs6d30a9j5sumsc@4ax.com> <1d66a$43674cb5$4232bd23$28645@COQUI.NET> Bill wrote: > Blacksmith wrote: > >> The bass, treble, etc push buttons on the left of the dial. >> Are there supposed to be springs in the control to keep the buttons >> out, or do you have to pull them out with your fingernails to >> disengage them? >> >> The buttons push in but then stay in. > > > My Zenith is as you describe. No springs. You must wear long > fingernails to disengage the buttons. I have two of these in different cabinets, and they are both exactly as Bill describes. A great performer but definitely a set for the ladies. -Scott Article: 325154 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: For God's Sake- Stop and Think Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:19:06 -0500 Message-ID: <11mgfhqereql944@corp.supernews.com> References: <11mcq1nq9ol3p34@corp.supernews.com> <1130870861.316413.254370@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mffkmhqhr41f1@corp.supernews.com> Scott W. Harvey wrote: > > > I hope this story gets passed around to every church in the country. > > As a Catholic baby, I just had a half a cup of holy water poured on my head. This baptistery stuff sounds like a lot of effort, and a touch of risk evidentially..... John H. PS- Or is that Holy Water? From adouglasatgis.net Fri Nov 4 07:53:53 EST 2005 Article: 325155 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 6X5's Converted to Diodes - Why? Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:03:37 -0500 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <4cX8f.35571$fE5.34186@fed1read06> <1130702032.373016.290330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mavhvba65oe05@corp.supernews.com> <76OdnT4meeiv5vveRVn-ug@giganews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-696.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.glorb.com!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news4 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:325155 Hi, >The movie "Lethal Vows" has a murder plot based on salvaging poisonous >selenium from old rectifiers. Elemental selenium is not particularly toxic. There have been studies of ranchers who live in areas with high selenium content in the soil. No one ever died and symptoms are always reversible, though grazing animals are affected more. They probably chose selenium precisely because no one could ever "get the idea" from the movie and do any harm. Alan My source is a book "Selenium" by Zingaro and Cooper, which has a whole chapter on toxicology. Article: 325156 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: jakdedert Subject: Re: For God's Sake- Stop and Think References: <11mcq1nq9ol3p34@corp.supernews.com> <1130870861.316413.254370@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mffkmhqhr41f1@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <2mX9f.34337$ty1.15002@bignews1.bellsouth.net> Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 22:37:55 -0600 Scott W. Harvey wrote: > Brenda Ann wrote: > >> "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message >> news:BMP9f.975$ZA3.223698@monger.newsread.com... >> >>> Wireless mike for the Darwin Award winner, huh... >> >> >> >> Now that's really rude, and cold. >> >> I'm thinking maybe some jail time for whomever wired the church... or >> cut the ground pin off the PA cord.. no way this should/could have >> happened with proper wiring. >> >> >> > Agreed, but there's simply too many variables in any wiring scheme to > make using an AC powered device in this manner 100% safe 100% of the > time.....How many musicians in this group have heard horror stories of > performers being electrocuted when rain fell during an outdoor concert? > Best to use wireless mikes for the baptisms, just like musicians now do. > > I hope this story gets passed around to every church in the country. > I literally knocked myself on my ass one time: set up an outdoor gig--at a lake in July--got done and jumped in the lake to cool off before sound check...climbed out, walked straight to the board and leaned into the the console talkback mic, "Check one, t..." BAM!...white light... ...woke up on my back, ten feet away, wondering what hit me. Don't try this at home, kids. > -Scott Article: 325157 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Cap labels need for C-B 87 project Message-ID: <2qX9f.106$4C5.168445@twister.southeast.rr.com> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 04:39:26 GMT Here is a link to a page with photos of the CORNELL DUBILIER filter caps on the C-B model 87 transmitter. http://radioheaven.homestead.com/CBparts.html As you can see the paper labels are badly damaged, I would like to find 2 caps with the same specs that have good labels. The caps can be bad, I hope to be able to steam the labels off and attach them to the existing cans. They are CORNELL DUBILIER 450V 8 MFD. Type B Please check your junk boxes for these caps. I know this is a long shot. Thanks in advance for your help. Ron Article: 325158 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: Subject: Re: 6X5's Converted to Diodes - Why? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 05:10:58 GMT > I put a new belt on and recapped it. Should be good to go, but I > haven't plugged it in yet. > .... > Blacksmith > > Where did you get the belt? PP Article: 325159 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve P." Subject: Re: Columbia motor needed Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 23:46:27 -0600 Message-ID: <11mgkli4jqi778b@corp.supernews.com> References: <26282-436839ED-1533@storefull-3336.bay.webtv.net> Have you tried the Old Time Victrola Music message board? Lots of nice phono folks hang out there. http://sonoraman.proboards23.com/ "Gridleak" wrote in message news:26282-436839ED-1533@storefull-3336.bay.webtv.net... >I have asked most of the phono groups and will try here . I have a very > nice Columbia BI phonograph that is missing the motor. Article: 325160 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: For God's Sake- Stop and Think Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 21:52:17 -0800 Message-ID: References: <11mcq1nq9ol3p34@corp.supernews.com> <1130870861.316413.254370@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mffkmhqhr41f1@corp.supernews.com> <11mgfhqereql944@corp.supernews.com> Hagstar wrote: > As a Catholic baby, I just had a half a cup of holy water poured on my > head. This baptistery stuff sounds like a lot of effort, and a touch of > risk evidentially..... It appears that some of the more orthodox or fundamentalist Christian sects seem to be fond of the full dunking treatment. I attended a baptism a few years ago where a newborn was briefly dunked completely underwater by the priest. The kid was pissed, to say the least. -Scott Article: 325161 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jim Mueller Subject: Re: For God's Sake- Stop and Think Date: Tue, 01 Nov 2005 23:24:07 -0700 Message-ID: References: On Mon, 31 Oct 2005 16:51:19 +0000, David Stinson wrote: > I work on solid state stuff all day long. > 12-48 volts leads to complacency. > Lack of rest can also cost you. > > NEVER work on boatanchor radios > when you're tired or distracted! > It's so easy to get in the habit of just > grabbing stuff when it's only got 12 volts on it. > Like checking to see if that resistor is getting hot. > 500 volts HURTS. BAD. > > Damn lucky to still be breathing. > I got away with a burn, bruises from > falling over and a knot on my head. > Pure, God-given dumb luck. > > Don't be stupid like me. > > Stop. Think. Go SLOW. > Stay Alive. > > Dave S. Boat anchors and transmitters aren't the only way to do it. I just finished a breadboard using a solid-state op-amp running on +350 and -50V. It's only about 3" X 6" including the DC to DC converters. Now I get to test it. After that, it gets a plastic cover with a high voltage warning label on it. Be careful. -- Jim Mueller wrongname@nospam.com To get my real email address, replace wrongname with eportiz. Then replace nospam with sacbeemail. Article: 325162 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: Subject: Re: Coincidence at the AK Corral? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 07:48:37 GMT "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message news:v3W9f.4940$LF3.497557@news20.bellglobal.com... > "Audiokarma.org has experienced a database corruption. Please bear with us, > as we work to repair and recover from this issue." > > This, right after an interesting week of light banter and cheery good > feelings. ::koff:: No, really. I wondered why I couldn't sign in or even get my password working...here I had blamed Grumpy...tsk. Article: 325163 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <11mcq1nq9ol3p34@corp.supernews.com> <1130870861.316413.254370@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mffkmhqhr41f1@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: For God's Sake- Stop and Think Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 07:51:44 GMT I was being sarcastic for another gem from the other poster. Why do you need a damned microphone in a font, anyway. "Brenda Ann" wrote in message news:dk8nll$j34$1@news2.kornet.net... > > "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message > news:BMP9f.975$ZA3.223698@monger.newsread.com... > > Wireless mike for the Darwin Award winner, huh... > > Now that's really rude, and cold. > > I'm thinking maybe some jail time for whomever wired the church... or cut > the ground pin off the PA cord.. no way this should/could have happened with > proper wiring. > > > Article: 325164 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <11mcq1nq9ol3p34@corp.supernews.com> <1130870861.316413.254370@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mffkmhqhr41f1@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: For God's Sake- Stop and Think Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 07:52:57 GMT That Ralphs guy in Free was killed by his own amp shorting... "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:dk9cos02j12@news1.newsguy.com... > Brenda Ann wrote: > > "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message > > news:BMP9f.975$ZA3.223698@monger.newsread.com... > > > >>Wireless mike for the Darwin Award winner, huh... > > > > > > Now that's really rude, and cold. > > > > I'm thinking maybe some jail time for whomever wired the church... or cut > > the ground pin off the PA cord.. no way this should/could have happened with > > proper wiring. > > > > > > > Agreed, but there's simply too many variables in any wiring scheme to > make using an AC powered device in this manner 100% safe 100% of the > time.....How many musicians in this group have heard horror stories of > performers being electrocuted when rain fell during an outdoor concert? > Best to use wireless mikes for the baptisms, just like musicians now do. > > I hope this story gets passed around to every church in the country. > > -Scott Article: 325165 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <7360-43681A51-1069@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: Silvertone 4587A console Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 07:57:10 GMT "Ken G." wrote in message news:7360-43681A51-1069@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net... > Steven if i were you i would put that radio on ebay tomorrow . make sure > to mention all the holes in it . I bought a better speaker (field coil) so I hope it helps. Ugly or not, I will pass away with it in the living room. Article: 325166 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gordon Richmond Subject: Re: Good Philco day. Message-ID: References: <1130865037.644949.88490@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130903403.656029.161750@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 08:19:46 GMT Neil, This cloth looks like it was woven from thin ribbons about a millimeter wide, and then varnished. There are accent stripes: a pair of narrow brown ones about 1/4" wide centered on the centerline of the carry handle, and then a pair of 1/2" wide brown stripes flanking them, and spaced about 3/8" away from the inner stripes. Kind of looks like a faint red stripe surrounding the rear wide stripe, but I think it is the result of the rubber insulation on the loop antenna having discoloured the fabric from its underside. Base colour of the fabric is a tan or straw colour, and it is clearly sun-faded on top. I'll keep an eye peeled at Value Village for an old suitcase; I remember that this was once a popular finish for luggage. Gordon Richmond Article: 325167 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <4cX8f.35571$fE5.34186@fed1read06> <1130702032.373016.290330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mavhvba65oe05@corp.supernews.com> <1130919305.679455.131210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT - why all the jokes when I post here? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 08:28:10 GMT The day's brand of decorum leaves no reason to dismay, or I would have exited 4 years ago. Your style is not what elicits such reactions. I am very sorry that you feel trivialized or at the least slighted or ignored. Patience and persistance seem to be very good virtues to own while here. As for Audiokarma, Tim (Kamakiri), let go for a while two years ago and let his underlings play with napalm and BBQ torch lighters. His "return" helped but the whole of the group looks more like a stupid guy clique than a cohesive audio site with forums now. Steven "Jeff, WB8NHV" wrote in message news:1130919305.679455.131210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > No, I don't think I have the wrong group. Frankly, I am getting sick > and tired of seeing my posts to this group responded to by sarcasm or > jokes. (I get the same thing at audiokarma.org, but that's another > story.) I am only trying to be helpful when I do post here. I'm not an > electrical engineer, but I have been a ham radio operator over 30 years > and been very interested in electronics of all sorts since I was eight > years old (I'm 49 now). Please, gentlemen, tell me just what on earth > it is (if anything) I am or may be doing wrong. If this group is only > intended for degreed EEs, tell me and I will quietly bow out. However, > I will not tolerate having my posts laughed at or otherwise not being > taken seriously. As I mentioned above, I am only trying to help. I'm > very sorry some of you don't seem to see it that way. Why can't you > guys treat me as you treat everyone else in this forum? I don't see you > being sarcastic with anyone else's posts here. For Pete's sake, why me? > > Thanks for reading. > > 73 (best of regards), > > Jeff, WB8NHV > Fairport, Ohio USA > Article: 325168 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gene McCluney Subject: Re: packard bell console question References: <1129443632.93d15ef9cd3258845edaa493da24b0ff@teranews> <0PGdneXe2rKRMs_eRVn-uw@look.ca> <1129496388.39294f30002769b303788cefab927c2b@teranews> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 08:56:27 GMT In article <1129496388.39294f30002769b303788cefab927c2b@teranews>, "william_b_noble" wrote: > you may be right that it was a second record player - there is a light above > it, which suggests that it was something you needed to see, but since there > are two tone arms on the record recorder, I had sort of figured that it > would be the record player - but maybe not. > "k35454" wrote in message > news:0PGdneXe2rKRMs_eRVn-uw@look.ca... > > > > "william_b_noble" wrote in message > > news:1129443632.93d15ef9cd3258845edaa493da24b0ff@teranews... > > so, I picked up this nice packard bell console - 1941 or 42 vintage (no > > model # yet, I'll get it later) - it has a pushbutton radio, a record > > recording/player under the lid on top, and a second, obviously installed > > later record player behind a door next to the radio. I'm trying to figure > > out what might have originally been behind that door- anyone got any > > thoughts? > > > > -- > > Bill > > This is not a mystery. It is so simple. All consumer record cutter decks were manual playback, single disc. Most people wanted to stack and play a whole bunch of 78's. As I am sure every one knows, symphonies and longer works were manufactured in sequence suitable for stack type record changers, so a whole longer work could be listened to without attention, except to turn over the stack. Only way to do this was to incorporate an additional changer for that purpose. Thus, to offer a unit with all the features of a standard record player/radio combo, plus the added feature of a recorder, it was necessary to have two turntables. Gene McCluney > > Article: 325169 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <4cX8f.35571$fE5.34186@fed1read06> <1130702032.373016.290330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mavhvba65oe05@corp.supernews.com> <1130919305.679455.131210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT - why all the jokes when I post here? Message-ID: <_e%9f.3236$2y.1209@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 09:00:42 GMT If a retired Grundig /SABA EE on Radiomuseum.org describes in detail how to replace selenium to a silicon bridge rectifier, using four 0.0047 ceramic caps to snub the rectifier, with an adequate dropping resistor adjusted to the necessary B+, that's good enough proof that you are staying within the principles of your radio restoration! No hollow or solid state diatribe here, just common sense! As for what you do with a restoration project involving a poorly designed rectifier circuits that toasts your tranny, the choices presented in this forum all have valid points. I think that there is a reason that Grundig , Telefunken, and others in the fifties used selenium for rectifying B+, and it is testimony on why tubes suck for rectifying a circuit! Anyways, my $0.02 Omer "Jeff, WB8NHV" wrote in message news:1130919305.679455.131210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > No, I don't think I have the wrong group. Frankly, I am getting sick > and tired of seeing my posts to this group responded to by sarcasm or > jokes. (I get the same thing at audiokarma.org, but that's another > story.) I am only trying to be helpful when I do post here. I'm not an > electrical engineer, but I have been a ham radio operator over 30 years > and been very interested in electronics of all sorts since I was eight > years old (I'm 49 now). Please, gentlemen, tell me just what on earth > it is (if anything) I am or may be doing wrong. If this group is only > intended for degreed EEs, tell me and I will quietly bow out. However, > I will not tolerate having my posts laughed at or otherwise not being > taken seriously. As I mentioned above, I am only trying to help. I'm > very sorry some of you don't seem to see it that way. Why can't you > guys treat me as you treat everyone else in this forum? I don't see you > being sarcastic with anyone else's posts here. For Pete's sake, why me? > > Thanks for reading. > > 73 (best of regards), > > Jeff, WB8NHV > Fairport, Ohio USA > Article: 325170 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Gene McCluney Subject: Re: Wester Electric 300B triode References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 09:12:06 GMT > How else does it compare to a 6V6 configuration beside power? Well, the 6v6 is not a triode, the 300b is. Many people feel that a triode output tube has a different sound than a pentode. The 300b was used in the push-pull output stages of some Western Electric theatre amps, which are known for good sound. The current high-fi trend among some audiophiles in the past decade has been to use single end triode output stages coupled to very efficient speakers. The amplifiers designed with very low inherit distortion, and no negative feedback. The most common tubes for this configuration are the 2a3 and the 300b, both of which are in current manufacture by several vendors. (Eastern Europe and China) Western Electric 300b are now being made again,, it seems, also. In Kansas City. Gene McCluney Article: 325171 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: Subject: Re: Wester Electric 300B triode Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 09:18:32 GMT Thank you for that information, I found it very helpful, as I was not aware of those facts. "Gene McCluney" wrote in message news:mccluney2-276B97.03064102112005@news1.east.earthlink.net... > > > How else does it compare to a 6V6 configuration beside power? > > > Well, the 6v6 is not a triode, the 300b is. Many people feel > that a triode output tube has a different sound than a pentode. > > The 300b was used in the push-pull output stages of some Western > Electric theatre amps, which are known for good sound. > > The current high-fi trend among some audiophiles in the past decade has > been to use single end triode output stages coupled to very efficient > speakers. The amplifiers designed with very low inherit > distortion, and no negative feedback. The most common tubes > for this configuration are the 2a3 and the 300b, both of which > are in current manufacture by several vendors. (Eastern Europe > and China) Western Electric 300b are now being made again,, > it seems, also. In Kansas City. > > Gene McCluney Article: 325172 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <5u2dncXcz_dS-tDeRVn-qQ@comcast.com> <1130930384.457746.82980@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Wester Electric 300B triode Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 11:35:55 GMT "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1130930384.457746.82980@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Yikes!! > > $7200/pair..... > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA Maybe they helped give the Wizard his booming, foreboding voice... Article: 325173 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 08:49:30 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: OT - why all the jokes when I post here? References: <4cX8f.35571$fE5.34186@fed1read06> <1130702032.373016.290330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mavhvba65oe05@corp.supernews.com> <1130919305.679455.131210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <82618$4368b5de$4232bd39$31949@COQUI.NET> Jeff, WB8NHV wrote: > No, I don't think I have the wrong group. Frankly, I am getting sick > and tired of seeing my posts to this group responded to by sarcasm ... > I will not tolerate having my posts laughed at or otherwise not being > taken seriously. As I mentioned above, I am only trying to help. I'm > very sorry some of you don't seem to see it that way. Why can't you > guys treat me as you treat everyone else in this forum? I don't see you > being sarcastic with anyone else's posts here. For Pete's sake, why me? I must be missing something. The only thing I saw was John's (Hagstar) comment about hot-rodding antiques to be something they are not and there's a bit of communal agreement here on that topic since this group DOES at least try to imply that we are dealing with preservation/restoration/refurbing/fixing antique devices as opposed to recklessly pulling out tubes and updating to current technology. Maybe some of my killfile residents had harsher things to say but I would have missed those. I won't open the debate because its clear that some people here are 'antique radio people' and some are not. No reason for discord if you understand the opposing philosophies involved. The recommendation that "it makes good sense to replace any tube rectifiers" would certainly invite criticism from old radio afficionados and could just as easily be seen as sarcastic and not helpful. Suggestions...get to know Hagstar...grow a thicker skin and don't let such comments bother you. And you can send all those tube rectifiers to me! Rgds, Bill Article: 325174 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT - why all the jokes when I post here? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1130919305.679455.131210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 13:07:19 GMT In article <1130919305.679455.131210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, jeffhs@ameritech.net says... > > > No, I don't think I have the wrong group. Frankly, I am getting sick >and tired of seeing my posts to this group responded to by sarcasm or >jokes. (I get the same thing at audiokarma.org, but that's another >story.) I am only trying to be helpful when I do post here. I'm not an >electrical engineer, but I have been a ham radio operator over 30 years >and been very interested in electronics of all sorts since I was eight >years old (I'm 49 now). Please, gentlemen, tell me just what on earth >it is (if anything) I am or may be doing wrong. If this group is only >intended for degreed EEs, tell me and I will quietly bow out. However, >I will not tolerate having my posts laughed at or otherwise not being >taken seriously. As I mentioned above, I am only trying to help. I'm >very sorry some of you don't seem to see it that way. Why can't you >guys treat me as you treat everyone else in this forum? I don't see you >being sarcastic with anyone else's posts here. For Pete's sake, why me? > > Thanks for reading. > > 73 (best of regards), > > Jeff, WB8NHV > Fairport, Ohio USA > Hi Jeff When I first read this post I said ??? Waz this?? had to go back and reread your last posts to figure out what the problem is?.. I think like Bill a little too thin skinned.. and there are definitely two groups of thought here.. the actual thread was 6x5 rectifiers that most of us agree... these thing suck... probably the worst tube rectifier ever made ... and like a lot of threads here... it sort of evolves into different topic... with seleniums mentioned along the way.. best response I saw on that was the guy that said something to the effect that the best sound a selenium makes is when it hits the bottom of a trash can.. as for education and such... I think that probably a good majority of the guys here are NOT EE's... many more of them as hobbyists like you and I are... and some hobbyists have a whole lot more training in the areas we are dealing with than others... but then thats why many of them are here is to learn a little more about the hobby... John k9uwa Article: 325175 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: OT - why all the jokes when I post here? Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 08:19:06 -0500 Message-ID: <11mhf68t8ca1udd@corp.supernews.com> References: <4cX8f.35571$fE5.34186@fed1read06> <1130702032.373016.290330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mavhvba65oe05@corp.supernews.com> <1130919305.679455.131210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Jeff, WB8NHV wrote:\ > I don't see you > being sarcastic with anyone else's posts here. For Pete's sake, why me? > > Sorry Jeff, I was a bit rude. I guess in my case it was that you were promoting bypassing every tube rectifier on purpose on every set. Many of us here go to great trouble to KEEP tube rectifiers even if they're flaky ones like the 6X5 because to use solid state is admitting defeat and modifying the design. Also with diodes the B+ hits everything instantly with a bang before the rest of the set warms up. So transient peak voltage will be longer and higher. In my defense I am sarcastic (I hope) with everyone here I care about occasionally. As an ex New Yorker it is how we show our love (deadly serious here). BUT since I don't know you well I should have been a bit more tactful. John H. Article: 325176 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: OT - why all the jokes when I post here? Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 08:25:23 -0500 Message-ID: <11mhfi3kttj369@corp.supernews.com> References: <1130919305.679455.131210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > best response I saw on that was the guy that said something > to the effect that the best sound a selenium makes is when it hits > the bottom of a trash can That was me- as a sacred ritual I sold all my cap testers and rip out ALL old paper and 'lytic caps quickly, and seleniums instantly with a fiendish laugh BWAHAHAAH! I am doing yoga exercises to forget all I ever accidentally learned about troubleshooting OEM capacitors and seleniums. That's like learning to get better at cooking spoiled meat. John H. Article: 325177 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4368c075$0$11074$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: OT - why all the jokes when I post here? References: <4cX8f.35571$fE5.34186@fed1read06> <1130702032.373016.290330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mavhvba65oe05@corp.supernews.com> <1130919305.679455.131210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: 02 Nov 2005 13:34:45 GMT Jeff, WB8NHV wrote: > No, I don't think I have the wrong group. Frankly, I am getting sick > and tired of seeing my posts to this group responded to by sarcasm or > jokes. (I get the same thing at audiokarma.org, but that's another > story.) I am only trying to be helpful when I do post here. I'm not an You were helpfull. Some others were trying to point out, replacing tubes with solid state is not exactly original. Another possibility would be to leave the tube filament connected and mount a couple of 1N4007 under the chassis, which I might do if I encountered a tube like the 6X5. Every restorer or repairman has his own opinions on what to do. Your suggestion was, in my opinion, as good as anyone elses. I don't think you were under attack, just some people stating there are other, in their opinion better ways. - Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 325178 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbelly Subject: Re: OT - why all the jokes when I post here? Message-ID: <5aghm19c7kd1h3tqho2rvvkl6rf75pu6r7@4ax.com> References: <4cX8f.35571$fE5.34186@fed1read06> <1130702032.373016.290330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mavhvba65oe05@corp.supernews.com> <1130919305.679455.131210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 08:38:34 -0500 On 2 Nov 2005 00:15:05 -0800, "Jeff, WB8NHV" wrote: > No, I don't think I have the wrong group. Frankly, I am getting sick >and tired of seeing my posts to this group responded to by sarcasm or >jokes. (I get the same thing at audiokarma.org, but that's another >story.) I am only trying to be helpful when I do post here. I'm not an >electrical engineer, but I have been a ham radio operator over 30 years >and been very interested in electronics of all sorts since I was eight >years old (I'm 49 now). Please, gentlemen, tell me just what on earth >it is (if anything) I am or may be doing wrong. If this group is only >intended for degreed EEs, tell me and I will quietly bow out. However, >I will not tolerate having my posts laughed at or otherwise not being >taken seriously. As I mentioned above, I am only trying to help. I'm >very sorry some of you don't seem to see it that way. Why can't you >guys treat me as you treat everyone else in this forum? I don't see you >being sarcastic with anyone else's posts here. For Pete's sake, why me? > > Thanks for reading. > > 73 (best of regards), > > Jeff, WB8NHV > Fairport, Ohio USA Jeff, Are you near fairport Harbor? Article: 325179 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <4368c3e3$0$11074$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: OT - why all the jokes when I post here? References: <4cX8f.35571$fE5.34186@fed1read06> <1130702032.373016.290330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mavhvba65oe05@corp.supernews.com> <1130919305.679455.131210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <82618$4368b5de$4232bd39$31949@COQUI.NET> Date: 02 Nov 2005 13:49:23 GMT Bill wrote: > The only thing I saw was John's (Hagstar) comment about hot-rodding > antiques to be something they are not and there's a bit of communal > agreement here on that topic since this group DOES at least try to imply > that we are dealing with preservation/restoration/refurbing/fixing > antique devices as opposed to recklessly pulling out tubes and updating > to current technology. Maybe some of my killfile residents had harsher > things to say but I would have missed those. I am all in favour of trying to keep things original, but there is just one thing... When the equipment we are restoring now, was in daily use, sometimes repairing equipment required modifications to keep it running, resulting in something that might remind us of Frankenstein tricks. When tube colour TV's were still in service, Philips could not supply any PL802 tubes anymore (video output stage, I think), so they made up a solid-state plugin. A few years later, their supply of Delta picture tubes ran out. So they supplied inline tubes along with a modification kit. There must be numerous examples of such official factory repair policies. It would not surprise me if there were official modifications to replace a tube rectifier with a selenium stack. Something we would definitely not do today, but it sort of justifies putting a silicium rectumfrier in there, especially if you don't have a good tube handy or when you'd have to change sockets (also a modification) to replace a tube with a better one. > "it makes good sense to replace any tube rectifiers" would certainly > invite criticism from old radio afficionados and could just as easily be > seen as sarcastic and not helpful. That's 100% true, especially out of context. - Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 325180 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: 6X5's Converted to Diodes - Why? Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 07:16:08 -0800 Message-ID: <7797-4368D838-37@storefull-3171.bay.webtv.net> References: <1fogm1h4esh0vk8bqu562odjmihk5gmghd@4ax.com> >I put a new belt on and recapped it. >Should be good to go, but I haven't >plugged it in yet. Still bleary eyed and my coffee hadn't kicked in yet, and first read of the above gave imagery of the Rocketeer strapping on a newly-recapped rocket belt. Bill(oc) Article: 325181 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> Subject: OT: Miami area parts pickup? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 17:13:02 GMT I have a pair of Altec Stonehenge I that I've been trying to bring back to as close to OEM as possible, given the HF transducers are not generally repairable anymore according to some repairmen (inc. some who actually worked for Altec). There is a pair in Miami that would accomplish almost all of that and it wouild not be hard to finish from there. Right now it's a few days from the end of the auction and it might get stupid, but if I won would anybody be interested in picking it up and stripping the cabs to send the speakers and crossovers/controls? 10kc@srvinet.coim if interested...thanks -- Free, while supplies last Article: 325182 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" Subject: Re: Coincidence at the AK Corral? Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 14:15:49 -0500 Message-ID: <11mi43849ctire0@news.supernews.com> References: <1130954408.798029.253350@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1130954408.798029.253350@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Dare I say it?? > > It's Karma.... > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA Hmm, I might have said Hubris, I think. Article: 325183 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT - why all the jokes when I post here? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1130919305.679455.131210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mhfi3kttj369@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 20:14:32 GMT In article <11mhfi3kttj369@corp.supernews.com>, yonnyKILL@SPAMMERSatt.net says... > > >I sold all my cap testers >John H. > I actually have two cap checkers that I use.. now get this .... The Heathkit Cap Checker... variable voltage with LOW current.... more low if you first add additional resistor of a meg... I use it to look for bent plates in variable capacitors.. can set voltage where you want it... then just look for the little sparks and bend plates accordingly!... New Cap Checker... thats cause I can't ever remember all those blasted codes they put on some of these caps.. and on the little silver mica ones... eyes aren't good enough to read that itty bitty print!... also real mica ones .... with the colored dots.... izzz fine for U guys that aren't COLORBLIND ... where I am partially colorblind!... John k9uwa Article: 325184 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <43692280$0$11080$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: OT - Need help finding part newer Radio References: <1130954760.984244.163730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1130958858.682435.198020@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: 02 Nov 2005 20:33:04 GMT Peter Wieck wrote: > SWAG from the hip, It really does sound like an NPN pair of outputs, > with the five pins. Maybe a couple of those piggybacked might do? Whose > name is on the chip? > Yeah, I figured as long as you have been around you have "rounded up > the usual suspects". Also, the TDA2030, TDA2040 and TDA2050 integrated power amplifiers by ST-Microelectronics look a lot like this. - Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 325185 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Buck Frobisher" References: <4cX8f.35571$fE5.34186@fed1read06> <1130702032.373016.290330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mavhvba65oe05@corp.supernews.com> <1130919305.679455.131210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: OT - why all the jokes when I post here? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 15:44:35 -0500 I think the simplest explanation is that Usenet is just like that. Sometimes people write before they think, and a comment that in their mind wasn't harsh at all can come across wrong. On the other hand, you do run across jerks on Usenet, just as in "real" life. Actually, the first reaction I expected to see was some clever quip like "You want cheese with that whine?" Take a deep breath, and remember that you don't always get what you want, to quote the song. But also remember what the next line of that song says... Regards, Frank Article: 325186 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Al Last" Subject: Need Tube complement for 1925 Music Master Type 60 Radio Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:22:29 GMT Could someone please assist me with the tube line up in the type 60 Music Master Radio? I need to know the exact placement and type number of the 5 tubes. If possible a scan of the schematic would be great but not absolute. Also- What are the voltages to the input of this radio? I've been on Nostalgic Air site but the closest I have found is a FADA model 192-A. Thanks for reading, Al al.last@sbcglobal.net Article: 325187 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Ping Scott McAuley re Clough-Brengle item Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 22:11:44 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1130345199.671787.233280@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <13384-4362BB65-440@storefull-3256.bay.webtv.net> <71i5m1l2j4umu1uv8v9p10buguputlo0n9@4ax.com> In "xrongor" writes: >"philsvintageradios" wrote in message >news:71i5m1l2j4umu1uv8v9p10buguputlo0n9@4ax.com... >> On Fri, 28 Oct 2005 17:59:33 -0600, goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) wrote: >> >>>What is ping ? >> >> if you ping an ip adress of a computer you are connected to it will >> return with a reply , type "ping" followed by computer name or ip >> adress. >> >> maybe it came from submarines? ...make a ping sound and "listen" for a >> reply from any nearby object.. those old black and white movies with >> submarines come to mind.. >yup. thats exactly where it came from. sonar. Ditto. It's an ICMP (Internet Control Message Protocol) echo request. Ping will tell you a host is alive IF the host is responding to pings -- not everyone does, but won't tell you if it's accepting any useful connections, like mail or web. ICMP lives right below the Transport layer (where stuff like TCP happens) and takes care of things like error reporting and flow control. -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 325188 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Spokesman" References: Subject: Re: eBay and "Non-selling Sellers"? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 22:37:41 GMT "Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message news:ZK2dnRhkkM5A7_venZ2dnUVZ_tCdnZ2d@gbronline.com... > John Byrns wrote: > > Since the subject of eBay is near and dear to most everyone on this group, > > I thought I would ask if anyone has had any experience with how eBay deals > > with "Non-selling Sellers"? The seller in an auction where I was the high > > bidder seems to want to welsh on the deal, so I am wondering what my > > options are? The seller didn't set a high enough starting bid, or use a > > reserve, and I am sure he expected that the winning bid would contain at > > least another significant digit, and probably a higher leading digit. > > > > On a related subject, there was a discussion here a while back about > > changes eBay made to the feedback system, which as I remember it basically > > neutered negative feedback against sellers, does anyone remember the > > details of the changes relating negative feedback for sellers? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > John Byrns > > > > > > Surf my web pages at, http://users.rcn.com/jbyrns/ > > Just like your bid is a contract to purchase the item at the price you > bid if you win the acution, his putting the item up for auction is a > contract to sell at the winning high bid, whether he thinks the bid was > high enough or not. Not setting a reserve or starting at a higher > starting bid is his problem, not yours. Many truley evil sellers just refuse to sell the item if they do not get what they want for it. They do not give a darn about any ebay rules. Article: 325189 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Need Tube complement for 1925 Music Master Type 60 Radio References: Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 22:53:32 GMT Al Last wrote: > Could someone please assist me with the tube line up in the type 60 Music > Master Radio? It would be all 01As, there could be a 71a in the last audio stage. Ron http://radioheaven.homestead.com Article: 325190 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: 6X5's Converted to Diodes - Why? Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 20:31:37 -0500 "Paul P" wrote in message news:CTX9f.12220$qk4.9650@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > > > Where did you get the belt? > > PP > > You can buy square stock from RadioDaze--butt splice with superglue. I've noticed the square stock has a tendency to "roll" on the pulleys, anyone else note likewise? Pete Article: 325191 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron in Radio Heaven Subject: Re: Sparton Bluebird References: <3sn2emFonmfiU1@individual.net> <3sn7hkFp374gU1@individual.net> <76OdnT8meeiy5vveRVn-ug@giganews.com> <1130948138.792052.65420@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1130981266.750281.206560@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 02:01:08 GMT Eddie Brimer wrote: > pity the nocturnes have been restored though. > Yep, almost no body can leave anything alone. How long can it be before there aren't any examples of what radios looked liked when they were made. Ron From adouglasatgis.net Fri Nov 4 07:54:03 EST 2005 Article: 325192 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Coincidence at the AK Corral? Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 21:01:53 -0500 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 8 Message-ID: <4orim1poht25affampk7a4v18ltt6jnk8e@4ax.com> References: <1130959023.112407.211320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-992.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:325192 Hi, >relative to him most everyone hear including me does >"know it all". Oh, dere. Spelling chequer, anyone? Article: 325193 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Keith Park" References: <3sn2emFonmfiU1@individual.net> <3sn7hkFp374gU1@individual.net> <76OdnT8meeiy5vveRVn-ug@giganews.com> <1130948138.792052.65420@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Sparton Bluebird Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 02:23:27 GMT are there ANY other known Peach Nocturnes? -- Keith Keith Park Top Notch Restorations topnotch@nycap.rr.com 71 Squareback 65 Notchback "El BajaRojo" 65 Squareback "Eggcrate" 87 Golf 93 Rx7 fast enough to stay Stock! "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1130948138.792052.65420@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Speaking of Sparton mirrors, I heard that Estes Auction is going to > have TWO NOCTURNES coming up for auction...blue and peach... > > http://www.estesauctions.com/Sagemainpage.html > > I used to live in Albuquerque and never knew this collection was > there...parents still do, and I would have wanted to visit this guy. > > Wonder why they are not selling on the W. Coast for higher bids than > OH? Less distance to ship, too. > > Tox > Article: 325194 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Al Last" References: Subject: Re: Need Tube complement for 1925 Music Master Type 60 Radio Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 02:34:50 GMT Thanks for the info. Those are the same tube complement as I have been looking at with the FADA 192A. Al "Ron in Radio Heaven" wrote in message news:Mrbaf.1082$Ea3.205679@twister.southeast.rr.com... > Al Last wrote: >> Could someone please assist me with the tube line up in the type 60 Music >> Master Radio? > > It would be all 01As, there could be a 71a in the last > audio stage. > > Ron > http://radioheaven.homestead.com Article: 325195 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <11mcq1nq9ol3p34@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: For God's Sake- Stop and Think Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 03:01:06 GMT Hi! > http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/31/national/main995829.shtml I heard that mentioned (via my recently restored six tube Delco radio, to keep it somewhat on topic) on Paul Harvey news a few mornings ago. I have to wonder if a ground fault outlet would have cut power and saved him...what a tragedy in any event... William Article: 325196 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 23:02:09 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Sparton Bluebird References: <3sn2emFonmfiU1@individual.net> <3sn7hkFp374gU1@individual.net> <76OdnT8meeiy5vveRVn-ug@giganews.com> <1130948138.792052.65420@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1130981266.750281.206560@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Ron in Radio Heaven wrote: > Eddie Brimer wrote: > >> pity the nocturnes have been restored though. >> > > Yep, almost no body can leave anything alone. > How long can it be before there aren't any examples > of what radios looked liked when they were made. > > Ron That sounds a little hoity-toity since you never know what condition they were in before. They could have been old basket cases salvaged >from the dump. -Bill Article: 325197 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "William R. Walsh" References: <9Rv9f.131914$7b6.34788@twister.nyroc.rr.com> Subject: Re: For God's Sake- Stop and Think Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 03:07:06 GMT Hi! > I got one of those little infrared temp jobs from Rat Shack a while back > and it really is handy to have, no more burns and shocks. I got one at Napa a few months back when they had it on sale. Mine includes a laser sight...not sure how accurate the sight is, but the thermometer seems to have good accuracy from even a few feet away. I use it often with air vents and things that I can't reach...as well as various electronic parts. http://greyghost.dyndns.org/temp-blog-imgs/thermometer/ (pictures, if anyone is curious) William Article: 325198 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Tim Mullen Subject: Re: Mystery Tomstone I.D. Help Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 03:13:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <7360-4364E37E-647@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> In "Larry Fowkes" writes: >http://www.lfowkes.com/rad3.jpg Cool skyscraper tube shields. Never saw any like that before. Is this a Midwest-ism? -- Tim Mullen ------------------------------------------------------------------ Am I in your basement? Looking for antique televisions, fans, etc. ------ finger this account or call anytime: (212)-463-0552 ------- Article: 325199 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Advice needed Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 03:18:46 GMT First question, did you have this problem before you did the recap? It certainly can't hurt to go back and double-check your work. I can't tell you much about your particular radio, but I deal with car radios all the time which use inductance tuning. These sets have three stages, the antenna, an RF stage, and the LO. There are three trimmer caps -- the antenna trimmer fine tunes the first tuned circuit. Then there is usually a double-trimmer with two screws; one screw is the LO and the other is the RF adjustment. You can also adjust the coils themselves, but usually you want to leave them be, unless you know for sure that one of them is off for some reason. What you have is a problem where all three stages are not tracking properly across the dial. At one point, everything is in perfect alignment, but as you adjust the dial, the tuned circuits are adjusting by different amounts. You might want to inspect the coils to ensure the slugs haven't somehow moved out of alignment. In car radios these are often held in place with some sort of rubber compound, and in certain instances it rots and the coil moves, losing track with the others. If the coils look intact, leave them alone -- but if it looks as though one has shifted, this may be your problem. As a rule of thumb, adjust the coil such that it looks physically the same as the others. If your radio is sensitive at the high end but not at the low, try this: Tune to a weak station at the low end. Then adjust the other two trimmers, one at a time, for best signal. Make note of which adjustment seems furthest off. Then go to the high end and adjust again. If you find that one tuned circuit needs adjustment, suspect that one to be out of line with the others. If both need touching up, suspect the LO to be out of line. At this point you may try to adjust the suspect coil, instead of the trimmer, either way to see if you can make it track better. This may take some trial and error, but this may bring you back in line. At the very worst, move the dial to the center and adjust all trimmers for best reception. This should improve things but you're still at a compromise Better to tinker with the tuned circuits to try and get them into alignment. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Blacksmith" wrote in message news:q5sim1dgbpib0bm6kmit9la86m6080uopb@4ax.com... > Back again. > I have a nice Learadio model 567 that I finished repairing a broken > out grill bar, then repainting it. It looks sharp now, but doesn't > play very well. > > I totally recapped it, then aligned it according to the schematic > instructions. > > Results: Very few stations picked up on the low end of the dial, and > the high end gets lots of stations. More than some of my other radios. > > The stations on the low end that do come in, all get that birdie > squealing the starts high pitched then lowers to a low growl then back > to a high pitch when you tune across a station. The stations on the > high end don't have this problem, at least it's not very evident. > > This radio doesn't have a tuning capacitor, but instead coils with > slugs in them that slide in and out with the dial cord. > > Is this problem I'm having normal for this type of tuning, or should I > look for a component causing this? > .... > Blacksmith > > > > ... > Radio Literature on disc. > 136 issues (11 years) of SERVICE magazines on CD or DVD. > 175 issues of RADIO RETAILING magazines on CD or DVD. > Very early NRI home-study radio courses on CD. > Mallory Encyclopedia on CD. > Record Changers & Recorders by Rider (1941) on CD. > Radio Troubleshooter's Handbook > -- renovatedradiosdotcom -- Article: 325200 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "effi" Subject: zenith conole Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 21:19:45 -0600 Message-ID: <11mj0eg6r0iqg4e@corp.supernews.com> it has a blown 4 ohm speaker the cabinet could be modified to have two 8 ohm speakers same saize as existing 4 ohm speaker (12"), the two 8 ohm speakers wired in series to make 4 ohms would the two 8 ohm speakers thus wired work with the zenith tube radio (which works) as a 4 ohm speaker? Article: 325201 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Fred C" Subject: Tapped volume controls Message-ID: <43698564@news.meer.net> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 22:35:01 -0500 Some radios have a tapped volume control said to be used wirh a C and R for tone compensation. These tapped controls are hard to find. What if that tone compensation circuit is left out? The volume control itself is usually about 1 meg, audio taper. Taper is somewhere toward center. Anyone have any experience with this? Article: 325202 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ESDI-80 Subject: Need Schematic Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2005 22:42:06 -0500 Hello, I need a schematic for a Concept 5.5 stereo receiver. I need to know of a good reputable source where I can order one. Thanks much, ESDI Article: 325203 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 00:08:30 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Sparton Bluebird References: <3sn2emFonmfiU1@individual.net> <3sn7hkFp374gU1@individual.net> <76OdnT8meeiy5vveRVn-ug@giganews.com> <1130948138.792052.65420@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1130981266.750281.206560@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1130988288.689468.155280@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <4107a$43698d43$4232bd18$15757@COQUI.NET> Eddie Brimer wrote: > kinda doubt they came from the dump. > What was that neutrodyne you refurbed last year? It certainly needed help and came out looking great. May not be worth as much as a minty original, (and a minty original isn't worth as much as new one found in a box) but you certainly increased its value and saved someone else >from sending it to the dump. It pains me to see things viewed by an all-or-none measure. Some people would have simply called it ruined and worthless. Some may still say that since it has been refurbed. They can't all be minty originals so one has to have some philosophy towards dealing with them...ahem, without having their nose too high in the air. -Bill Article: 325204 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 00:09:33 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Tapped volume controls References: <43698564@news.meer.net> Message-ID: Fred C wrote: > Some radios have a tapped volume control said to be used wirh a C and R for > tone compensation. These tapped controls are hard to find. What if that > tone compensation circuit is left out? > The volume control itself is usually about 1 meg, audio taper. Taper is > somewhere toward center. Anyone have any experience with this? > > You can certainly leave it out with little noticeable effect but Mark Oppat usually has these available for sale in the $25-30 price range. -Bill Article: 325205 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 00:15:55 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: OT: Pay Pal Payments on Ebay References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <35ce1$43698f00$4232bd18$16187@COQUI.NET> RadioGary wrote: > > I've been steadily waiting patiently for a seller to release a buy I > made on Ebay. He said he accepted Pay Pal. One week later he EMAILs > me back saying he's denied payment because it was attached to a credit > card, and he only accepts Pay Pal payments. How in the heck can you > pay into Pay Pal without useing a credit card? What's the difference? > The guy could have accepted and had the money, correct? Can someone > clear this up for me, please? There are two ways to pay with PayPal. You can pay from the funded account you have with them or via a credit card. You are not required to have money on deposit in their accounts, although its not a bad idea since they're paying good interest and many sellers balk at the extra fees they get stuck with for accepting credit cards. The third way is the dreaded e-check which is quickly becoming the bad boy because of the time it takes to clear. If you are going to use PayPal for payments on a regular basis it makes sense to deposit funds into your account. You'll earn interest, the seller won't be stuck with fees, you won't be stuck with possible interest on your own card account. He should have mentioned no CCs upfront. Many people won't accept them via PayPal. -Bill Article: 325206 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul Dietenberger" References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Pay Pal Payments on Ebay Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2005 22:27:11 -0600 Message-ID: <43698f57$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > I've been steadily waiting patiently for a seller to release a buy I > made on Ebay. He said he accepted Pay Pal. One week later he EMAILs > me back saying he's denied payment because it was attached to a credit > card, and he only accepts Pay Pal payments. How in the heck can you > pay into Pay Pal without useing a credit card? What's the difference? > The guy could have accepted and had the money, correct? Can someone > clear this up for me, please? The fastest and easiest way to end your pain is to log into your Paypal account, click the Add Funds link, and transfer money out of your checkbook into your PayPal account. It'll take a couple days. When the money's there, make the payment. You will be forced to use that money to pay for the item, and it will be all good. Unless, of course, you don't have any actual money can only afford to buy old radios on credit..... :-) paul Article: 325207 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Escutcheon repair on a Nordmende Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 13:42:05 +0900 Message-ID: I have a Nordmende radio I'm fixing up. The electronics are in good shape, but nearly all the mounting points on the escutcheon are broken and/or missing. I'm inquiring as to the best way to mend this without running a bead of Goop around the thing. TIA Article: 325208 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron Subject: Re: Pay Pal Payments on Ebay Date: 02 Nov 2005 23:50:45 EST Message-ID: <43699828.1070208@yahoo.com> References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <43698f57$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> It's the only way I will use PayPal CASH transactions only. Paul Dietenberger wrote: > "RadioGary" wrote in message > news:1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > >>I've been steadily waiting patiently for a seller to release a buy I >>made on Ebay. He said he accepted Pay Pal. One week later he EMAILs >>me back saying he's denied payment because it was attached to a credit >>card, and he only accepts Pay Pal payments. How in the heck can you >>pay into Pay Pal without useing a credit card? What's the difference? >>The guy could have accepted and had the money, correct? Can someone >>clear this up for me, please? > > > The fastest and easiest way to end your pain is to log into your Paypal > account, click the Add Funds link, and transfer money out of your checkbook > into your PayPal account. It'll take a couple days. When the money's there, > make the payment. You will be forced to use that money to pay for the item, > and it will be all good. > > Unless, of course, you don't have any actual money can only afford to buy > old radios on credit..... :-) > > paul > > Article: 325209 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: Subject: Re: Need Schematic Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 05:14:17 GMT Have you tried A. G. Tannenbaum? eBay store owner poppop2000 operates Quag-West on the site and his CD scans are usually quite good and affordable. Others I've used include hifimanuals.net, eBayer elec115672, stereomanuals.com I haven't but they are there and reputable AFAIK... This group is basically devoted to mostly playback mediums that predate stereo. Since I am unaware if the Audiokarma site is still crippled, I will also state that I don't know many of the other well used venues for stereo discussions. Since Concept models were largely produced in the 70s for a West Coast chain of stereo stores IIRC it doesn't really work into this schema, although there are those who've dealt with stereo receivers like it in their "vintage" days who might have an idea for you. I wish you the best of luck in your quest, as I understand Concept was a good brand yet I know abosolutely nothing of it. "ESDI-80" wrote in message news:fGfaf.11079$IB.5202@dukeread11... > Hello, > > I need a schematic for a Concept 5.5 stereo receiver. I need to know of > a good reputable source where I can order one. > > Thanks much, > > ESDI Article: 325210 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130959023.112407.211320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Coincidence at the AK Corral? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 05:34:44 GMT And it's a Cannot Find Server error right now so it's gone st the moment... "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message news:Afhaf.1064$ZA3.249475@monger.newsread.com... > I just hope it dies quietly. > > Article: 325211 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130954408.798029.253350@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <11mi43849ctire0@news.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Coincidence at the AK Corral? Message-ID: <4mhaf.1066$ZA3.249553@monger.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 05:37:04 GMT "Buck Frobisher" wrote in message news:11mi43849ctire0@news.supernews.com... > "Peter Wieck" wrote in message > news:1130954408.798029.253350@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > > Dare I say it?? > > > > It's Karma.... > > > > Peter Wieck > > Wyncote, PA > > Hmm, I might have said Hubris, I think. How about "taps"? Article: 325212 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 01:40:44 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Pay Pal Payments on Ebay References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <43698f57$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> <43699828.1070208@yahoo.com> <1130994034.990574.175670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <3cfa1$4369a2e0$4232bd18$21573@COQUI.NET> siliconvalleyEE@gmail.com wrote: > Well, on the other hand card is better since if something goes wrong > you can > dispute with your credit card company as well, no? > It sounds better for the buyer... > There's a number of ways to extricate oneself out of bad deals and the credit card reversal thing is one of them. That works equally as well for fraudsters and as a consequence is another justification for sellers not wanting to deal with credit card payments. I personally don't have any qualms about receiving credit card payments. Maybe it costs me a buck or something but that buck bought me a high bidder. The nutsos out there who will reverse a payment on the basis of the "radio is missing one screw" really do exist but that idiocy happens regardless of the payment type and haven't become an issue for me other than in hypothetical discussion. -Bill Article: 325213 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 01:58:21 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: 6X5's Converted to Diodes - Why? References: <4cX8f.35571$fE5.34186@fed1read06> <1130702032.373016.290330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mavhvba65oe05@corp.supernews.com> <76OdnT4meeiv5vveRVn-ug@giganews.com> Message-ID: <82d3b$4369a701$4232bd18$22810@COQUI.NET> Phil Nelson wrote: > Well, that's interesting to hear. > > >>Elemental selenium is not particularly toxic. There have been >>studies of ranchers who live in areas with high selenium content in >>the soil. No one ever died and symptoms are always reversible, though >>grazing animals are affected more. >>Alan I had a looooong conversation with a lady rancher I met at the Casper WY airport. She fit the local description of an eastern "hobby rancher" since she had only been there 20 years and had less than 400 acres and was from Milwaukee and was attuned to everything that was "wrong". Selenium in the soil there, particularly in her area (Alcova?), is a major issue. Over-irrigation, assuming one could get enough water rights to over-irrigate, will bring the "alkali" (thats what they call it) to the surface. You see this "alkali" in any pond or mudhole that has dried out. The beasts of the area will tend not to graze in such areas but the dummies like goats and llamas who have been imported will munch their way to a frenzied and suffering death to the extent that they need to be isolated from certain areas. No real danger to humans because people that live in the area KNOW this. -Bill Article: 325214 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <1131012893.222057.59080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Found the radio of Jesus Christ !!! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 13:20:32 GMT OK..ok, you hooked me, I gotta ask....put a picture on the Binaries. PP "Gerry Lintonice" wrote in message news:1131012893.222057.59080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Do you think I can sell it on ebay? If yes, how much do you think, will > people pay for Jesus Christ's radio ??? > Article: 325215 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <1131012893.222057.59080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Found the radio of Jesus Christ !!! Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 08:22:35 -0500 Message-ID: <436a0f1c$0$32196$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> I wouldn't have used the word, "hooked..." :-P "Paul P" wrote in message news:A8oaf.17234$qk4.11936@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > OK..ok, you hooked me, I gotta ask....put a picture on the Binaries. > > PP > > > "Gerry Lintonice" wrote in message > news:1131012893.222057.59080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >> Do you think I can sell it on ebay? If yes, how much do you think, will >> people pay for Jesus Christ's radio ??? >> > > Article: 325216 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Found the radio of Jesus Christ !!! Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 08:53:24 -0500 Message-ID: <11mk5iikf44u466@corp.supernews.com> References: <1131012893.222057.59080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> It's of course a plain, wooden radio- NO doubt a low end Philco. John H. Article: 325217 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Pay Pal Payments on Ebay Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 05:46:21 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <43698f57$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> <43699828.1070208@yahoo.com> <1130994034.990574.175670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131017664.266270.311750@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Larry wrote: > One thing I have never understood. If you transfer money from your bank > account to your Paypal account it takes a couple days. However if I am > paying for an auction I can transfer money instantly from my bank > account to my paypal account and then to the sellers account, the whole > process takes mere seconds. It makes no sense. No, you can't. You can pay from your bank account via PayPal, but it will take at least a couple of days to "clear". It looks instantaneous but it's not. I know this because I bought a new camera not even two months ago using a debit from my checking account via PayPal. The seller screwed up and shipped it the next day so I got it as if I had paid directly from my PayPal account, but I know from monitoring my account balance afterward that it took days for them to actually get paid. Pretty ridiculous in an era of electronic funds transfer, but that's the way it is. -Scott Article: 325218 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Pay Pal Payments on Ebay Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 05:57:31 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <43698f57$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> <43699828.1070208@yahoo.com> <1130994034.990574.175670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> siliconvalleyEE@gmail.com wrote: > Well, on the other hand card is better since if something goes wrong > you can > dispute with your credit card company as well, no? > It sounds better for the buyer... > It's better only if you don't care about getting negative feedback. That's what a buyer will get from me instantly if they attempt a credit-card chargeback. IMHO it's not an ethical method of obtaining a refund on payments made via PayPal. Fortunately I've never actually had to leave a negative for that reason. -Scott Article: 325219 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Caveat Lector" References: <1131012893.222057.59080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Found the radio of Jesus Christ !!! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 06:59:27 -0800 It is more blessed to give than e-bay Did you happen to find a wooden chalice with it ?? (;-) -- CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! "Gerry Lintonice" wrote in message news:1131012893.222057.59080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Do you think I can sell it on ebay? If yes, how much do you think, will > people pay for Jesus Christ's radio ??? > Article: 325220 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <43698f57$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> Subject: Re: Pay Pal Payments on Ebay Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 15:13:42 GMT "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:43698f57$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net... > > The fastest and easiest way to end your pain is to log into your > Paypal account, click the Add Funds link, and transfer money out of > your checkbook into your PayPal account. It'll take a couple days. > When the money's there, make the payment. You will be forced to use > that money to pay for the item, and it will be all good. > Easiest? The easiest way is to have PayPal do it automatically for you. You don't need to keep any money in your PayPal account to do an instant transfer such as an eBay purchase. PayPal can do the instant transfer directly from your bank account as long as you have a credit card registered as a back up source. That way PayPal makes the payment immediately available to the recipient, and if your bank account doesn't have the necessary funds, PayPal will charge the rest to your credit card. This is much quicker for the seller to receive "good" funds from you, and you don't have to go through the process of adding funds to your PayPal account or keep any of your money tied up there. jim menning Article: 325221 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <43698f57$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> <43699828.1070208@yahoo.com> <1130994034.990574.175670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131017664.266270.311750@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Pay Pal Payments on Ebay Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 15:14:59 GMT "Larry" wrote in message news:1131017664.266270.311750@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > One thing I have never understood. If you transfer money from your > bank > account to your Paypal account it takes a couple days. However if I > am > paying for an auction I can transfer money instantly from my bank > account to my paypal account and then to the sellers account, the > whole > process takes mere seconds. It makes no sense. > > Larry Fowkes > It doesn't rely on you having money in the bank. It relies on the credit card you have designated as your back up source. If your bank account has insufficient funds, then PayPal will get the additional amount necessary from your credit card. "With an Instant Transfer, the money is instantly credited to the recipient's PayPal account. To use Instant Transfer, PayPal requires that you have a back up funding source registered, such as a credit card or debit card. That way, if your bank declines the funds transfer, the transaction is charged to the back up source. You must choose the back up funding source for each payment before you send your payment." (The back up funding source is set up as a default choice.) https://www.paypal.com/us/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_help&eloc=752&loc=751&unique_id=1718&source_page=_home&flow= jim menning Article: 325222 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130959023.112407.211320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4orim1poht25affampk7a4v18ltt6jnk8e@4ax.com> <1131016537.525703.101230@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Coincidence at the AK Corral? Message-ID: <2Oqaf.1081$ZA3.253670@monger.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:21:18 GMT If it's still Thursday, it's still dead. Article: 325223 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1131012893.222057.59080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Found the radio of Jesus Christ !!! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:25:29 GMT No, but Graham Chapman spoke to me through my unplugged Philco today. It was an SS Philco-Ford, so I didn't believe it. "Caveat Lector" wrote in message news:WApaf.16205$i%.13841@fed1read07... > It is more blessed to give than e-bay > > Did you happen to find a wooden chalice with it ?? > (;-) > > -- > CL -- I doubt, therefore I might be ! > > > > > > > "Gerry Lintonice" wrote in message > news:1131012893.222057.59080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Do you think I can sell it on ebay? If yes, how much do you think, will > > people pay for Jesus Christ's radio ??? > > > > Article: 325224 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <7360-4364E37E-647@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> <1131004066.467772.291180@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Mystery Tomstone I.D. Help Message-ID: <4Vqaf.1083$ZA3.253709@monger.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:28:48 GMT "Jeff, WB8NHV" wrote in message news:1131004066.467772.291180@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Looks like the speaker may have been replaced. I'm not that familiar > with Midwest receivers (except that they were made in Cincinnati, > Ohio), but I doubt they would use Rola speakers as original equipment. > > BTW, I wonder how many of these sets were in use in Cincinnati during > the time when WLW had that big 500-kW transmitter in the 1930s? > > > Jeff, WB8NHV (mailto: jeffhs@ameritech.net or wb8nhv@arrl.net) > Fairport Harbor, Ohio USA You have a Rola in there? Article: 325225 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Skycloud" Subject: Re: Sparton Bluebird Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 16:31:13 -0000 Message-ID: <3susb3Fq5ohtU1@individual.net> References: <3sn2emFonmfiU1@individual.net> <3sn7hkFp374gU1@individual.net> <76OdnT8meeiy5vveRVn-ug@giganews.com> <1130948138.792052.65420@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131020970.216753.168770@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Thorny topic... to restore or not to restore, and how to restore. In the case of the Bluebird I've now just finished, it had already received the attentions of a not-very-able serviceman (horrid bright yellow caps) and a lot of my job was to return it to look as near as possible to original, both above and below chassis. So it actually looks _more_ original now than it did - and a whole lot cleaner and in better order besides. The customer wants to use this set so I also had to take into account modern safety requirements; that meant an internally fused power feed, double-pole switching and no curtain-burner cable. There's more on my philosophy of restoration in the small print at http://www.radiocraft.co.uk/702.htm Steve Article: 325226 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <3sn2emFonmfiU1@individual.net> <3sn7hkFp374gU1@individual.net> <76OdnT8meeiy5vveRVn-ug@giganews.com> <1130948138.792052.65420@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131020970.216753.168770@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <3susb3Fq5ohtU1@individual.net> Subject: Re: Sparton Bluebird Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:51:48 GMT "Skycloud" wrote in message news:3susb3Fq5ohtU1@individual.net... > > > Thorny topic... to restore or not to restore, and how to restore. In the > case of the Bluebird I've now just finished, it had already received the > attentions of a not-very-able serviceman (horrid bright yellow caps) and a > lot of my job was to return it to look as near as possible to original, both > above and below chassis. So it actually looks _more_ original now than it > did - and a whole lot cleaner and in better order besides. The customer > wants to use this set so I also had to take into account modern safety > requirements; that meant an internally fused power feed, double-pole > switching and no curtain-burner cable. > > There's more on my philosophy of restoration in the small print at > http://www.radiocraft.co.uk/702.htm > > > Steve I have only progressed one full page into your story and my heart is warmed already. I trust you fully on this Bluebird...thanks for the link :-) Article: 325227 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1131012893.222057.59080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Found the radio of Jesus Christ !!! Message-ID: <%iraf.1086$ZA3.254357@monger.newsread.com> Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 16:56:27 GMT I found the telephone of Stromberg and Carlson from when they apparently hung out in Central Oregon... Article: 325228 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1131012893.222057.59080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131016641.186337.242740@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Found the radio of Jesus Christ !!! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 17:35:25 GMT And memory drugs for many of us as they pull this every three months or so to test us... "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1131016641.186337.242740@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > There is a rubber room in your future. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 325229 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <3sn2emFonmfiU1@individual.net> <3sn7hkFp374gU1@individual.net> <76OdnT8meeiy5vveRVn-ug@giganews.com> <1130948138.792052.65420@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Sparton Bluebird Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 17:44:51 GMT I saw a few Troy sets, and while it isn't miirrored I know somebody with a nice small set in good shape. "toxcrusadr" wrote in message news:1130948138.792052.65420@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > Speaking of Sparton mirrors, I heard that Estes Auction is going to > have TWO NOCTURNES coming up for auction...blue and peach... > > http://www.estesauctions.com/Sagemainpage.html > > I used to live in Albuquerque and never knew this collection was > there...parents still do, and I would have wanted to visit this guy. > > Wonder why they are not selling on the W. Coast for higher bids than > OH? Less distance to ship, too. > > Tox > Article: 325230 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Mikael Carlsson Subject: Zenith tuning capacitor Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:35:30 +0100 Message-ID: <3sv3jjFqbeo3U1@individual.net> Hi, I have just removed the tuning capacitor from my Zenith 8-A-128. It is full of dust and very greasy. Can I put this in my ultrasound cleaner and have it cleaned without destroying anything in the process? There is a ball bearing in the front of the capacitor, after cleaning should I use grease or oil to lubricate it? Mikael Article: 325231 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Pay Pal Payments on Ebay Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 12:42:04 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <43698f57$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> <43699828.1070208@yahoo.com> <1130994034.990574.175670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131017664.266270.311750@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> ill tell you what is ridiculous. little old ladies can overwhelm a bank with hundreds of hand written checks in a month. checks for less than a dollar. checks for everything. the bank has to process them, touch them, copy them, cash them. but ultimately even a check is handled by some sort of electronic transfer. but if i just walk in to my bank and say i want an electronic transfer it costs money. 20$ just to wire it to another bank. use the wrong atm machine and its 2$. that is what is ridiculous. its gouging. randy > Pretty ridiculous in an era of electronic funds transfer, but that's the > way it is. > > -Scott Article: 325232 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 15:53:20 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Pay Pal Payments on Ebay References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <43698f57$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> <43699828.1070208@yahoo.com> <1130994034.990574.175670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131017664.266270.311750@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <472e7$436a6ab5$4232bdd2$25693@COQUI.NET> xrongor wrote: > but if i just walk in to my bank and say i want an electronic transfer it > costs money. 20$ just to wire it to another bank. use the wrong atm > machine and its 2$. > > that is what is ridiculous. its gouging. > > randy I'm with ya on that, randy. I pay all my local bills thru my bank's internet billpay scheme, have done so ever since it has been available. Now they say on the site to allow 3-4 days for the payment to reach the vendor. Sounds to me like they are playing the float game. -Bill Article: 325233 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 6X5's Converted to Diodes - Why? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:01:36 GMT In article , moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... > > >yes, and thats why I never use flat or square belts... only round for me. >They track better, dont jump the pulley. > >Mark Oppat Ditto .. I buy 1/8" Diameter O-Ring stock in 100 foot length... cut what I need. THE BEST super glue for this is the TIRE GLUE sold at your local hobby stores. It is specifically made for the Model Cars planes etc hobbyists to put rubber tires on their little models.. Store it in the Frig after opening and it lasts a lot longer. John k9uwa Article: 325234 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: Pay Pal Payments Ebay Guido Collector Type needed Springfield,MO From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131034589.123479.243650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:13:44 GMT In article <1131034589.123479.243650@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, davall@yahoo.com says... > > >I was curious as to how Tommys' these auctions would end up. Keep us >posted....... > Looks like its time to get a Guido the Collector from Springfield, MO area.... Curt are you out there?... Any chance you know who this Tommy Tombstone guy is?.. John k9uwa Article: 325235 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Tapped volume controls From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <43698564@news.meer.net> <1131030822.224023.273350@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 20:25:42 GMT In article <1131030822.224023.273350@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, menwagoh@msn.com says... > > >The tap usually provides bass boost. Either as part of the tone >controls or as tone compensation at low volume or both. Either way you >lose bass response. > Is there a way to rewire it so the bass boost is always on rather than kicking on on the tap point... as in.... new pot has no tap?. John k9uwa Article: 325236 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130959023.112407.211320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Coincidence at the AK Corral? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 21:09:40 GMT I'm happy too, it's still dead, lunch is good. Article: 325237 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <43698f57$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> <43699828.1070208@yahoo.com> <1130994034.990574.175670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131017664.266270.311750@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <472e7$436a6ab5$4232bdd2$25693@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: Pay Pal Payments on Ebay Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 21:13:07 GMT For all but three and eBay, I walk right up and hand it to them : P This discussion doesn't mean anything to me. "Bill" wrote in message news:472e7$436a6ab5$4232bdd2$25693@COQUI.NET... > xrongor wrote: > > > > but if i just walk in to my bank and say i want an electronic transfer it > > costs money. 20$ just to wire it to another bank. use the wrong atm > > machine and its 2$. > > > > that is what is ridiculous. its gouging. > > > > randy > > I'm with ya on that, randy. I pay all my local bills thru my bank's > internet billpay scheme, have done so ever since it has been available. > Now they say on the site to allow 3-4 days for the payment to reach > the vendor. > Sounds to me like they are playing the float game. > > -Bill Article: 325238 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1131012893.222057.59080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mk5iikf44u466@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Found the radio of Jesus Christ !!! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 18:02:04 -0500 "Hagstar" wrote in message news:11mk5iikf44u466@corp.supernews.com... > It's of course a plain, wooden radio- NO doubt a low end Philco. > > John H. > Reminds me off an opening scene in Midnight Cowboy... Article: 325239 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <43698564@news.meer.net> <1131030822.224023.273350@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Tapped volume controls Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 18:08:47 -0500 "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:anuaf.297505$084.85224@attbi_s22... > In article <1131030822.224023.273350@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, > menwagoh@msn.com says... > > > > > >The tap usually provides bass boost. Either as part of the tone > >controls or as tone compensation at low volume or both. Either way you > >lose bass response. > > > Is there a way to rewire it so the bass boost is always on rather > than kicking on on the tap point... as in.... new pot has no tap?. > John k9uwa > Is this to correct for nonlinear tonal responses in our hearing range at low volumes? I'd suspect that a judicious adjustment of the tone controls could do the same task--if the radio is equipped with them that is... Pete Article: 325240 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1131012893.222057.59080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Found the radio of Jesus Christ !!! Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:11:16 GMT This may not be as far off-base as one might think! In the Bible, and I believe it is in Job, there is a passage where God speaks, I believe to Job, and talks about man's limited power. One verse says, "Canst thou send lightnings, that they may come and say, here we are?" Many people have looked at this as a possibility of prophesying the eventual discovery of radio. Makes you think, at the very least. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Gerry Lintonice" wrote in message news:1131012893.222057.59080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Do you think I can sell it on ebay? If yes, how much do you think, will > people pay for Jesus Christ's radio ??? > Article: 325241 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <43698564@news.meer.net> Subject: Re: Tapped volume controls Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:28:48 GMT Nearly ALL car radios have tapped volume controls. About the only thing that might vary is the location of the tap. As someone else has already mentioned, if you can't find a suitable replacement in your junk box, check with Mark Oppat. Getting the right part will be far better than trying to rework the radio around the wrong control. Remember, a restoration is intended to bring a radio back to the way it used to be. If you just want a radio that works, you can buy one at Wal-Mart. If you want an antique radio restored, rebuild it the way it was. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Fred C" wrote in message news:43698564@news.meer.net... > Some radios have a tapped volume control said to be used wirh a C and R > for tone compensation. These tapped controls are hard to find. What if > that tone compensation circuit is left out? > The volume control itself is usually about 1 meg, audio taper. Taper is > somewhere toward center. Anyone have any experience with this? > Article: 325242 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Pay Pal Payments on Ebay From: "xrongor" Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 16:33:00 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <43698f57$1_1@newspeer2.tds.net> <43699828.1070208@yahoo.com> <1130994034.990574.175670@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131017664.266270.311750@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <472e7$436a6ab5$4232bdd2$25693@COQUI.NET> "Bill" wrote in message news:472e7$436a6ab5$4232bdd2$25693@COQUI.NET... > xrongor wrote: > > >> but if i just walk in to my bank and say i want an electronic transfer it >> costs money. 20$ just to wire it to another bank. use the wrong atm >> machine and its 2$. >> >> that is what is ridiculous. its gouging. >> >> randy > > I'm with ya on that, randy. I pay all my local bills thru my bank's > internet billpay scheme, have done so ever since it has been available. > Now they say on the site to allow 3-4 days for the payment to reach the > vendor. > Sounds to me like they are playing the float game. one of my banks started a billpay. i tried it, took 4 weeks for it to get there! they said it was a fluke so i tried one more time. took 3 1/2 weeks! i agree. float game. my other bank has a billpay program and they go right out. i do like the feature though. i like that i can pay it via the web, without the automatic payment being linked to it where they just take and you hope the money is there . i dont think i go through a book of stamps in a year since i started using it a few years ago. randy Article: 325243 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: donlk@webtv.net (Gridleak) Subject: Re: Columbia motor needed Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 16:21:18 -0700 Message-ID: <25251-436A9B6E-323@storefull-3338.bay.webtv.net> References: Mark The Columbia BI is an outside horn disk, 78 rpm phonograph that has two types of motors one has 3 mounting bolts and the one I require has 4. The bolts are located at the corners of a 5x7 rectangle. The crank is located in the middle of the right (5")side. The on/off/speed control is a push-pull rod protruding from the left front. Here's a picture http://www.collectorsworldwest.com/lookup.php?id=69 scroll down to motor. DON AC7PD Article: 325244 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Saul Rabinowitz Subject: Re: Need Schematic References: Message-ID: Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 23:44:45 GMT Steven Dinius_ wrote: > I wish you the best of luck in your quest, as I understand Concept was a > good brand yet I know abosolutely nothing of it. > > "ESDI-80" wrote in message > news:fGfaf.11079$IB.5202@dukeread11... > >>Hello, >> >>I need a schematic for a Concept 5.5 stereo receiver. I need to know of >>a good reputable source where I can order one. >> It's coming back to me out of the cobwebs of time... "Concept" was a house brand of the Pacific Stereo chain. The products were unique -- not existing stuff with their logo slapped on. As I recall, it wasn't possible to get repair data -- kind of like trying to get a schematic from Radio Shack for an Archer item. Or like trying to get a schematic from Panasonic for a contemporary product that they deem "unrepairable." At least, that's what a friend who did repair work told me. We used to sometimes buy parts from Pacific's HQ repair shop; they were quite friendly to us and would sometimes photocopy pages from manuals for us -- but manuals from other companies -- not their own. I hope that I'm wrong. As far as the quality of the brand went, it varied. Some items were cheap and poorly-built, others were decent: none were outstanding -- this was not an audiophile company. Things with circuits were simply imported. Speakers were assembled in Emeryville, California at their HQ. Their turntables were sometimes imported, sometimes assembled in Emeryville from imported parts. For many problems, it may be possible for you to hunt and peck your way to a decent repair. Saul Article: 325245 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Found the radio of Jesus Christ !!! References: <1131012893.222057.59080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mk5iikf44u466@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 00:12:37 GMT Uncle Peter wrote: > Reminds me off an opening scene in Midnight Cowboy... Was that the scene with the nutball with the shirne over his toilet? Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325246 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <1131012893.222057.59080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mk5iikf44u466@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: Found the radio of Jesus Christ !!! Message-ID: <1pyaf.56770$fE5.42970@fed1read06> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 20:01:05 -0500 "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:VHxaf.3626$Hs.2562@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > scene in Midnight Cowboy... > > Was that the scene with the nutball with the shirne over > his toilet? > > Jeff > Dustin Hoffman carving wood slivers out his desk.. Stuffing in envelopes to fullfill orders for a sliver from the cross. Article: 325247 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: Subject: Re: Battery connections & voltages for Radiola III with UX-199s? Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 20:52:41 -0500 "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:eamdnSx6XPZAHffeRVn-tA@giganews.com... > Phil You ever get a clear answer on the missing gridleak? Pete Article: 325248 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <43698564@news.meer.net> <1131030822.224023.273350@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131065692.428562.121220@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Tapped volume controls Message-ID: Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 21:01:09 -0500 "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1131065692.428562.121220@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Yes, the bass boost is provided to compensate for the human ear's > nonlinear capability at lower dB levels (aka lower volume). The > Mallory-Yaxley Radio Encyclopedia 2nd edition has a nice description on > pages 166-168. If you look at the schematic for the Zenith 10S567 which > is the subject of another thread here, you'll see that Zenith has both > bass compensation and bass boost. The bass boost is controlled by the > Radiorgan. Replacing the tapped control with a non-tapped control would > probably wreak havoc on the audio circuit. "Wreck Havoc" sounds a bit extreme.. It would cause a loss of apparent bass at lower volume, but? I suspect the casual user would just punch the BASS radio organ button on low volume settings. Pete Article: 325249 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Comparing old prices/earnings to new? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 02:50:20 GMT In article , philnelson@nospam.xyz says... > > >I often see statements like, "This radio cost $24.50 in 1924, which would >have cost an average worker wages." > >I have seen a website that calculates US inflation rates from some older >date to a newer date, but that's not the same, unless you already know what >things cost and what people earned in those years. > >Phil Nelson Well a quick shot at Google came up with ... 1932 Ford was About our Car: 1932 Ford V-8 Cabriolet: 65 horsepower, 221 cu.in. displacement, 2,398 lbs., $610 original price. so maybe by 1935 a new Ford was $700 ?... or less?... and the 25 toober Zenith Strat was $750 ... cheap radios were 20 bucks or so.. John k9uwa Article: 325250 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith chassis hold-downs From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <34alm1l8hkgfiervufeta87f7n8i4tim08@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 03:05:12 GMT In article <34alm1l8hkgfiervufeta87f7n8i4tim08@4ax.com>, blacksmith1@wowway.com says... > > >How springy should the chassis be? >.... >Blacksmith > Well I think the correct position is for the chassis to be level and the main knob shaft to be coming out of the middle of the knob hole in the cabinet........... now thats for the radio setting in your living room.... learn from my bad experience... Zenith 11s474 ... 11 tuber.... same spring setup.... radio all restored... laying on its backside in our Van.. on its way to its new owner.. this was about 6 or 7 years ago on a trip to Elgin Radio show we dropped off this really nice 11s474 just before we got to Elgin... and the dial glass was broken!... customer wasn't real happy.. neither was I.. I sent him a complete bezel plate with glass the next week and he returned the broken parts to me.... lesson learned..... crank em down pretty tight for transport and be sure that is can't rock into the glass!... John k9uwa Article: 325251 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith tuning capacitor From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <3sv3jjFqbeo3U1@individual.net> <1131057662.248467.271320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 03:09:34 GMT In article <1131057662.248467.271320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, eb062559@aol.com says... > > >just for clarification...feed the acid to the kitties... > Me thinks Eddie is provoking a riot among us cat lovers! Probably going to burn buildings and cars and such! John k9uwa Article: 325252 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: Subject: Re: Need Schematic Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 03:11:53 GMT Panasonic DOES have a place to send you--affliated too--to help locate old parts. Article: 325253 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: The $0.06 Solution Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 22:08:40 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1131074575.408574.207080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> i kind of work it backwards. is it ready for the dumpster? once you've made up your mind that its already garbage, you can do no harm. if its not there yet, ill try more traditional approaches til its fixed or gets there. but once its been resigned as garbage im freed up to try anything that seems even remotely reasonable. nice fix! randy > Don't be afraid to try alternate solutions, guys and gals. Just be > aware of and use the Hippocratic model: First, do no harm. > > But then, no CD player is supposed to last 22 years, is it? > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 325254 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: The $0.06 Solution Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 21:39:13 -0800 Message-ID: <27312-436AF401-174@storefull-3174.bay.webtv.net> References: Bears out the old sayin' "put a nickel in it." :-) Bill(oc) Article: 325255 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1131012893.222057.59080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9badnYlza8RSTvfeRVn-sA@qx.net> Subject: Re: Found the radio of Jesus Christ !!! Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 06:08:47 GMT "Theresa McCarty" wrote in message news:9badnYlza8RSTvfeRVn-sA@qx.net... > Well, the Ark of the Covenant was a radio [battery] of a sort. Yahweh [aka > Elohim, aka El Shaddai] lived inside and got carried all over the place. That is a good analogy, Spike. Article: 325256 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <3sv3jjFqbeo3U1@individual.net> <1131057662.248467.271320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131074731.238141.152960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith tuning capacitor Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 06:18:18 GMT "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1131074731.238141.152960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Yo, Eddie, > > When you come to pick up your Shutterdial and Movie Dial, you will have > to negotiate with Boswell first. 18 pounds, not an ounce of fat on > him... and has managed as many as four (4) full grown squirrels in a > single day. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA That cat can Guido for John, perhaps... Article: 325257 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: OT: good ole ebay Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 23:18:16 -0700 Message-ID: this place is always up for a good ebay discussion. what if i place a bid (higher than the starting price) on an item with NO bids on it and several days left. then 2 minutes later i decide my max price was too high. does it voilate ebay policy to retract my bid, then rebid immediately with a lower maximum? what would you do if you were the one who changed their mind? what would you do if someone did this to your auction? i looked at ebay site but i didnt see this scenareo mentioned except for the case of 'accidental' bidding. if it matters, i did it. yes i did! and i dont feel one bit bad. yes im a goof. but a criminal? randy Article: 325258 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Found the radio of Jesus Christ !!! Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2005 23:24:43 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1131012893.222057.59080@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9badnYlza8RSTvfeRVn-sA@qx.net> yeah. and satan spelled backwards is NATAS: National Academy of Television Arts and Sciences... which is sort of related to repairing old radios... without radio there would be no tv. without tv there would be no acadamy of tv randy "Theresa McCarty" wrote in message news:9badnYlza8RSTvfeRVn-sA@qx.net... > Well, the Ark of the Covenant was a radio [battery] of a sort. Yahweh [aka > Elohim, aka El Shaddai] lived inside and got carried all over the place. > Article: 325259 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: Subject: Re: good ole ebay Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 06:48:49 GMT er, Randy... If you have top bid and are gonna win it anyway, you are only gonna pay the next increment above the previous bid, usually no more than $1 TOPS! Withdrawal of bids even if accidental, is frowned upon after 2 or 3 and with cause penalties like suspension, especially if the seller objects, so that would be silly unless you really screwed up and bid 1234.00 instead of 12.34. If the next highest bidder was at 2.67 and you aren't being nipped at with bids that would be out of line for you anyway, you needn't bother? remember that if the high bid becomes invalid, you or the next highest bidder becomes the de facto winner, so if somebody bid 1500 and was just screwing around, you could be in hot water. This is why eBay provides a verification step in the bidding process, and why you NEED to review EACH BID carefully before clicking "confirm". This is a legally binding sales contract, as if you had bought a house or a Buick. "xrongor" wrote in message news:dkeuf6$3c3r$1@news3.infoave.net... > this place is always up for a good ebay discussion. > > what if i place a bid (higher than the starting price) on an item with NO > bids on it and several days left. then 2 minutes later i decide my max > price was too high. > > does it voilate ebay policy to retract my bid, then rebid immediately with a > lower maximum? > > what would you do if you were the one who changed their mind? what would > you do if someone did this to your auction? > > i looked at ebay site but i didnt see this scenareo mentioned except for the > case of 'accidental' bidding. if it matters, i did it. yes i did! and i > dont feel one bit bad. yes im a goof. but a criminal? > > randy > > Article: 325260 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <34alm1l8hkgfiervufeta87f7n8i4tim08@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Zenith chassis hold-downs Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 06:52:28 GMT "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:R7GdnQY2db78nPbeRVn-oQ@giganews.com... > > transport. It sure is springy even tightened half-way down. > > Duh. What's your reason not to remove the chassis before you drive home? > Three minutes of easy work will prevent tears at the end of the day :-) > > Phil "don't blame me if it arrives busted" Nelson How ever did Pa Walton get that gawdaful Zenith up Walton's Mountain in a Model A? Maybe Hamner WROTE it there safely ;-) Article: 325261 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <34alm1l8hkgfiervufeta87f7n8i4tim08@4ax.com> Subject: Re: Zenith chassis hold-downs Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 07:10:05 GMT Now, before you say anything, let me get this off my chest and I'm done with it forever. The "Waltons" set is about the most unappealing Zenith I have ever witnessed. It is so UNorganic, the color isn't much and the ratio of grille vs.dial size is so equal it seems to clash in which gets attention, which is not desirable--the dial should always come out first in that respect. The big ridges on the top mean Zenith designers could not resolve the lines there so they pasted a decoration there. It is really a cathedral trying to grow into a console but stunted, yet it's too large for what it is. The cube models did the trick beautifully and if you were to redo this set, it should have been a floor model. I have no argument with the chassis at all. Article: 325262 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: " Uncle Peter" References: <2-idnWPt2t02RvfeRVn-jg@giganews.com> Subject: Re: Battery connections & voltages for Radiola III with UX-199s? Message-ID: <%YGaf.56793$fE5.3626@fed1read06> Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 05:45:36 -0500 "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:2-idnWPt2t02RvfeRVn-jg@giganews.com... > " Uncle Peter" wrote in message > news:p9zaf.56773$fE5.8068@fed1read06... > > You ever get a clear answer on the missing gridleak? > > Not quite. I sent Dwight some email regarding a post of his a few years > back, in which he stated that there were four-capacitor and five-capacitor > versions of the Radiola III. His answer suggested that the four-cap version > may have contained a resistor inside the #2 capacitor, making that the grid > leak . . . or something. But I haven't followed up on that yet. And I should > let Dwight speak for himself, I guess. > > I haven't tried opening up any of the tubular capacitors yet, since I gather > that's an irreversible process. > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > Hi Phil You could try metering the capacitor and see if there's a high value resistor hidden inside--then again probably a 50/50 shot the darn resistor is open, or the cap leaky! :) Pete > Article: 325263 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Zenith tuning capacitor Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 06:59:48 -0500 Message-ID: <11mmj9hac78tf38@corp.supernews.com> References: <3sv3jjFqbeo3U1@individual.net> <1131052327.790551.195550@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131057511.648125.172490@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131057662.248467.271320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Eddie Brimer wrote: > just for clarification...feed the acid to the kitties...not the tuning > cap. we have to be clear here....don't want to harm a nice vintage > tuning cap. > We got it eddie. Torture of pets is an early warning sign commonly seen in many budding Jeffrey Dahlmer types. I wouldn't have commented but you insisted. John H. Article: 325264 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Zenith tuning capacitor References: <3sv3jjFqbeo3U1@individual.net> <1131052327.790551.195550@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131057511.648125.172490@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131057662.248467.271320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11mmj9hac78tf38@corp.supernews.com> Message-ID: <5JIaf.3662$Hs.3254@tornado.socal.rr.com> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 12:44:49 GMT Hagstar wrote: > > > Eddie Brimer wrote: > >> just for clarification...feed the acid to the kitties...not the tuning >> cap. we have to be clear here....don't want to harm a nice vintage >> tuning cap. >> > > We got it eddie. Torture of pets is an early warning sign commonly seen > in many budding Jeffrey Dahlmer types. I wouldn't have commented but you > insisted. > > > John H. Are you suggesting that the next thing we hear in the news is about some "antique radio collector" pouring acid into the heads of sex slaves and forcing them to recap old radios? Sheesh! What an image... hheh heh . Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325265 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <3sv3jjFqbeo3U1@individual.net> <1131052327.790551.195550@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131057511.648125.172490@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131057662.248467.271320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11mmj9hac78tf38@corp.supernews.com> <5JIaf.3662$Hs.3254@tornado.socal.rr.com> Subject: Re: Zenith tuning capacitor Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 12:48:45 GMT "Jeffrey D Angus" wrote in message news:5JIaf.3662$Hs.3254@tornado.socal.rr.com... > > > Hagstar wrote: > > > > > > Eddie Brimer wrote: > > > >> just for clarification...feed the acid to the kitties...not the tuning > >> cap. we have to be clear here....don't want to harm a nice vintage > >> tuning cap. > >> > > > > We got it eddie. Torture of pets is an early warning sign commonly seen > > in many budding Jeffrey Dahlmer types. I wouldn't have commented but you > > insisted. > > > > > > John H. > > Are you suggesting that the next thing we hear in the news is about > some "antique radio collector" pouring acid into the heads of sex > slaves and forcing them to recap old radios? > > Sheesh! What an image... > > hheh heh . > > Jeff Call the tabloids, the phone line's on fire. Article: 325266 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <3sv3jjFqbeo3U1@individual.net> <1131052327.790551.195550@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131057511.648125.172490@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131057662.248467.271320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <11mmj9hac78tf38@corp.supernews.com> <5JIaf.3662$Hs.3254@tornado.socal.rr.com> Subject: Re: Zenith tuning capacitor Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 12:50:59 GMT Yes, since you will ask and no, since you will ask. Later. Article: 325267 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: good ole ebay From: "xrongor" Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 05:53:04 -0700 Message-ID: References: i see this in both the 'learn about bidding' and on the page where you bid: 'eBay will now bid on your behalf up to the maximum amount you're willing to pay for that item' the way i see it, technically i have only 'bid' the minimum amount. the 'service' of bidding again up to my higher amount is not part of the bidding contract. on the confirmation page it says: 'You will enter into a legally binding contract to purchase the item from the seller if you're the winning bidder. ' again. i havent bid any more than the low amount. now i did retract the bid, but i immediately replaced it. right on the confirm page it says in big bold letters: "By clicking on the button below, you commit to buy this item from the seller if you're the winning bidder" so even though i retracted it, i bid it again thus holding to the contract. kj in fact, i think i could offer a legal argument that even though the button says 'retract bid', by bidding again i didnt retract my bid in a legal sense. its ironic though that its the guy who clearly doesnt care about terms of service agreements was the first to respond from the moral high ground point of view... randy "GBrown" wrote in message news:HeudnQAQ9bvBhvbenZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@gwi.net... > > Mite be a legally binding contract but......most states have a "right to > rescind". > Gary... > .. > "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message > news:lvDaf.1140$ZA3.264585@monger.newsread.com... >> >> er, Randy... >> >> If you have top bid and are gonna win it anyway, you are only gonna pay > the >> next increment above the previous bid, usually no more than $1 TOPS! >> >> Withdrawal of bids even if accidental, is frowned upon after 2 or 3 and > with >> cause penalties like suspension, especially if the seller objects, so >> that >> would be silly unless you really screwed up and bid 1234.00 instead of >> 12.34. If the next highest bidder was at 2.67 and you aren't being nipped > at >> with bids that would be out of line for you anyway, you needn't bother? >> remember that if the high bid becomes invalid, you or the next highest >> bidder becomes the de facto winner, so if somebody bid 1500 and was just >> screwing around, you could be in hot water. This is why eBay provides a >> verification step in the bidding process, and why you NEED to review EACH >> BID carefully before clicking "confirm". This is a legally binding sales >> contract, as if you had bought a house or a Buick. >> >> "xrongor" wrote in message >> news:dkeuf6$3c3r$1@news3.infoave.net... >> > this place is always up for a good ebay discussion. >> > >> > what if i place a bid (higher than the starting price) on an item with > NO >> > bids on it and several days left. then 2 minutes later i decide my max >> > price was too high. >> > >> > does it voilate ebay policy to retract my bid, then rebid immediately > with >> a >> > lower maximum? >> > >> > what would you do if you were the one who changed their mind? what > would >> > you do if someone did this to your auction? >> > >> > i looked at ebay site but i didnt see this scenareo mentioned except >> > for >> the >> > case of 'accidental' bidding. if it matters, i did it. yes i did! >> > and > i >> > dont feel one bit bad. yes im a goof. but a criminal? >> > >> > randy >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > Article: 325268 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: John Bachman Subject: Grunow 1291 discriminator coil Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 08:03:19 -0500 Message-ID: I am working on this chassis (12W version) and it is putting up a pretty good fight. Yesterday I discovered that the primary of one of the coils is open. The documentation calls it a discriminator coil but 2nd detector coil would be more accurate. I could rewind it and will if I have to. But, being a lazy bastard, I wondered if anyone happens to have one, or a parts chassis that has one. Shoulda snagged that 12W chassis that was on eBay a while ago. TIA John Article: 325269 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: good ole ebay From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 13:40:58 GMT In article , hacky@smackeycrackey.com says... > > >i see this in both the 'learn about bidding' and on the page where you bid: >'eBay will now bid on your behalf up to the maximum amount you're willing to >pay for that item' > Big Snip... > >randy Well Ebay put the retract bid bit in there so people that make mistakes like the example of 1237 dollars rather than 12.37 can fix their errors... now I have seen examples where guys bid exactly like the above example and it isn't an error... it is a way of finding out what the sellers reserve price is.. so U bid $1237 .... and up pops the Congrats Sonny U just made the reserve on this radio widget at 500 bucks!... then U retract the error bid of 1237 and put in $12.37 .... and you are at that point the only one who knows the reserve price... Now if a bidder makes a habit of doing the above... pretty soon.. yup FleaBay is going to be upset with him.. for someone like Randy that retracted one bid and hasn't a history of doing it... they wouldn't pay any attention one way or the other. Even if the seller complained .. most any lame excuse would be acceptable to ebay.. John k9uwa Article: 325270 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: Interesting recording Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 14:05:20 GMT I recently found, on the internet, a recording from an Atwater Kent demonstration record, which demonstrates the pure, natural sound of Atwater Kent radios with the "golden voice." At first I was wondering how this got played into a radio, but reading it again I realize it was used to demonstrate a radio/phono combo. I downloaded it and put it on a CD, so now I can play it into my AMT-3000, and into my AK 60. It is quite interesting to listen to, particularly through that radio. If you ever wanted to demo such a radio to friends, this is one slick way to do it! The demo recording can be found at: http://www.atwaterkent.com/articles/audio/ -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 325271 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Grunow 1291 discriminator coil References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 10:09:22 -0500 That is a discriminator coil, looks like it drives an afc circuit. Might be hard to find one in a 465kc version. Ken John Bachman wrote: > I am working on this chassis (12W version) and it is putting up a > pretty good fight. Yesterday I discovered that the primary of one of > the coils is open. The documentation calls it a discriminator coil > but 2nd detector coil would be more accurate. > > I could rewind it and will if I have to. But, being a lazy bastard, I > wondered if anyone happens to have one, or a parts chassis that has > one. > > Shoulda snagged that 12W chassis that was on eBay a while ago. > > TIA > > John > Article: 325272 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Zenith chassis hold-downs Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 08:18:47 -0700 Message-ID: <27688-436B7BD7-447@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: John .. how on earth did the glass get broken with the radio on its back ? Do you travel on roads or ``off road`` :-) When i haul these radios i lay them on there back . The chassis sags away from the glass on those springs . easy over train tracks ! Article: 325273 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" Subject: latest acquisition -- Crosley Fiver Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 15:54:27 GMT For my latest acquisition, I just purchased a Crosley Fiver wood table radio on eBay.. This radio looks at least as good, probably better, than what is shown in the photos, although it indeed has it's little flaws. Before using it much I intend to go through it -- recap, alignment, and such -- and eventually i would like to refinish the cabinet. You can see it at: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=ADME:B:EOIBSAA:US:31&Item=6571176564 There is one little flaw however. The dial cover is clear plastic, and is not only the typical yellowed, but has a small blemish in it. If I were to restore the cabinet I would like to fix the dial cover. Are replacements for these available? -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com Article: 325274 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: latest acquisition -- Crosley Fiver Message-ID: <4KLaf.13693$8K4.7681@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:10:40 GMT "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:TuLaf.1505$uD5.112@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > > > There is one little flaw however. The dial cover is clear plastic, > and is not only the typical yellowed, but has a small blemish in it. > If I were to restore the cabinet I would like to fix the dial cover. > Are replacements for these available? > I know you are a regular to this group, but you must be a very selective reader. There have been many threads dealing with obtaining replacement dial covers recently. Perhaps if you check the archives, the answers won't have to be repeated again, and again, and again, and again... http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22dial+cover%22+group:rec.antiques.radio%2Bphono&start=0&scoring=d&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&num=100& jim menning Article: 325275 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: Subject: Re: good ole ebay Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:55:58 GMT But that sinply isn't the case. Every retraction is counted and so many against you is penalized as they represent a lack of attention being paid to bidding and can affect other bidders. "xrongor" wrote in message news:dkfljb$3tvr$1@news3.infoave.net... > i see this in both the 'learn about bidding' and on the page where you bid: > 'eBay will now bid on your behalf up to the maximum amount you're willing to > pay for that item' > > the way i see it, technically i have only 'bid' the minimum amount. the > 'service' of bidding again up to my higher amount is not part of the bidding > contract. > > on the confirmation page it says: > 'You will enter into a legally binding contract to purchase the item from > the seller if you're the winning bidder. ' > > again. i havent bid any more than the low amount. > > now i did retract the bid, but i immediately replaced it. right on the > confirm page it says in big bold letters: > "By clicking on the button below, you commit to buy this item from the > seller if you're the winning bidder" > > so even though i retracted it, i bid it again thus holding to the contract. > kj > > in fact, i think i could offer a legal argument that even though the button > says 'retract bid', by bidding again i didnt retract my bid in a legal > sense. > > its ironic though that its the guy who clearly doesnt care about terms of > service agreements was the first to respond from the moral high ground point > of view... > > randy > > "GBrown" wrote in message > news:HeudnQAQ9bvBhvbenZ2dnUVZ_s-dnZ2d@gwi.net... > > > > Mite be a legally binding contract but......most states have a "right to > > rescind". > > Gary... > > .. > > "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message > > news:lvDaf.1140$ZA3.264585@monger.newsread.com... > >> > >> er, Randy... > >> > >> If you have top bid and are gonna win it anyway, you are only gonna pay > > the > >> next increment above the previous bid, usually no more than $1 TOPS! > >> > >> Withdrawal of bids even if accidental, is frowned upon after 2 or 3 and > > with > >> cause penalties like suspension, especially if the seller objects, so > >> that > >> would be silly unless you really screwed up and bid 1234.00 instead of > >> 12.34. If the next highest bidder was at 2.67 and you aren't being nipped > > at > >> with bids that would be out of line for you anyway, you needn't bother? > >> remember that if the high bid becomes invalid, you or the next highest > >> bidder becomes the de facto winner, so if somebody bid 1500 and was just > >> screwing around, you could be in hot water. This is why eBay provides a > >> verification step in the bidding process, and why you NEED to review EACH > >> BID carefully before clicking "confirm". This is a legally binding sales > >> contract, as if you had bought a house or a Buick. > >> > >> "xrongor" wrote in message > >> news:dkeuf6$3c3r$1@news3.infoave.net... > >> > this place is always up for a good ebay discussion. > >> > > >> > what if i place a bid (higher than the starting price) on an item with > > NO > >> > bids on it and several days left. then 2 minutes later i decide my max > >> > price was too high. > >> > > >> > does it voilate ebay policy to retract my bid, then rebid immediately > > with > >> a > >> > lower maximum? > >> > > >> > what would you do if you were the one who changed their mind? what > > would > >> > you do if someone did this to your auction? > >> > > >> > i looked at ebay site but i didnt see this scenareo mentioned except > >> > for > >> the > >> > case of 'accidental' bidding. if it matters, i did it. yes i did! > >> > and > > i > >> > dont feel one bit bad. yes im a goof. but a criminal? > >> > > >> > randy > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Article: 325276 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <4KLaf.13693$8K4.7681@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: latest acquisition -- Crosley Fiver Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 16:59:14 GMT That was correct, but sorta harsh. You sounded frustrated and a bit chaste. "jim menning" wrote in message news:4KLaf.13693$8K4.7681@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:TuLaf.1505$uD5.112@newsread3.news.pas.earthlink.net... > > > > > > There is one little flaw however. The dial cover is clear plastic, > > and is not only the typical yellowed, but has a small blemish in it. > > If I were to restore the cabinet I would like to fix the dial cover. > > Are replacements for these available? > > > > I know you are a regular to this group, but you must be a very > selective reader. There have been many threads dealing with obtaining > replacement dial covers recently. Perhaps if you check the archives, > the answers won't have to be repeated again, and again, and again, and > again... > > http://groups.google.com/groups?q=%22dial+cover%22+group:rec.antiques.radio%2Bphono&start=0&scoring=d&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&num=100& > > jim menning > > Article: 325277 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Frank Dresser" References: Subject: Re: Comparing old prices/earnings to new? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:01:19 GMT "Phil Nelson" wrote in message news:Yvednel_U_VxK_feRVn-tA@giganews.com... > I often see statements like, "This radio cost $24.50 in 1924, which would > have cost an average worker wages." > > Or, "This radio cost as much as an average " in > such-and-such year. > > Where are these comparisons coming from? > > I have seen a website that calculates US inflation rates from some older > date to a newer date, but that's not the same, unless you already know what > things cost and what people earned in those years. > > Regards, > > Phil Nelson > > The Bureau of Labor Statistics has an inflation calculator on this page: http://www.bls.gov/cpi/home.htm Frank Dresser Article: 325278 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <34alm1l8hkgfiervufeta87f7n8i4tim08@4ax.com> <1131112861.639714.313770@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith chassis hold-downs Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:00:34 GMT "Eddie Brimer" wrote in message news:1131112861.639714.313770@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > walton envy Only Mary Ellen Article: 325279 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve P." Subject: Re: good ole ebay Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 12:03:54 -0600 Message-ID: <11mn8kbg90a6ae2@corp.supernews.com> References: The way I understand it bidders can retract bids for any reason at any time. Sellers also have the courtesy of cancelling auctions for any reason at any time. Just yesterday I had a bid retraction on one of my auction. Bidder placed a $2079 maximum bid when he meant $20.79... he retracted and reentered. Didn't bother me a bit and I clearly saw what happened. I would have did the same. What does bother me are bidders who retract their high bids within the last few minutes or hours of an auction... then pick a reason from the drop down box like "seller changed description" which is a lie. That's buyer's remorse and can ruin a good auction if you don't get another high bidder or the next to highest bidder doesn't agree to buy it at the end... and really you can't blame them. This has only happened to me twice in 300 auctions, but usually they're high value auctions. "xrongor" wrote in message news:dkeuf6$3c3r$1@news3.infoave.net... > what would you do if you were the one who changed their mind? what would > you do if someone did this to your auction? Article: 325280 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <34alm1l8hkgfiervufeta87f7n8i4tim08@4ax.com> <1131124302.186051.239220@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith chassis hold-downs Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 18:04:13 GMT "radioguy57" wrote in message news:1131124302.186051.239220@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > > How ever did Pa Walton get that gawdaful Zenith up Walton's Mountain in a > > Model A? > > The first show of the first season shows John pulling up to the house > with the radio on the front seat of his truck. They also make > references during the first season that indicate the year is 1933/34, > so the radio John brings home hadn't been produced yet. Sounds like the '74 Oldsmobile Delta 88 that runs down the street in an episode of either Happy Days or Laverne and Shirley. Article: 325281 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: good ole ebay Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 18:12:41 GMT "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message news:yoMaf.1167$ZA3.268290@monger.newsread.com... > > But that sinply isn't the case. Every retraction is counted and so > many > against you is penalized as they represent a lack of attention being > paid to > bidding and can affect other bidders. > Penalized? So tell me how this bidder can have 25 retractions in just the last 6 months and still be active. Check the total under his feedback numbers. http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=zenith1935 The number of bid retractions apparently doesn't cause an automatic suspension. And he has been reported before for "improper bid retractions" and "auction interference", but he continues to be active on ebay. For all I know, he may be a member of this group with that user name (zenith1935). But I have noticed in several auctions in the past where he bids to peek at the reserve or other bidder's proxy bids, and then cancels his bids. I hate to step on anyone's toes here if this is a member of our group, but this is not fair to the rest of us that play by the rules. jim menning Article: 325282 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <4KLaf.13693$8K4.7681@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: latest acquisition -- Crosley Fiver Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 18:17:18 GMT "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message news:CrMaf.1169$ZA3.268310@monger.newsread.com... > > That was correct, but sorta harsh. You sounded frustrated and a bit > chaste. > I only get frustrated with you. Harsh? I don't think so. I gave him more than enough information to find the answer (I gave him the direct link), and my response served as a reminder to all who read the post that they can often find the answers they want easily, if they just learn to help themselves rather than have everyone else volunteer their time over and over for the same thing. Wow, that was an uncharacteristically long sentence from me. jim menning Article: 325283 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: Subject: Re: good ole ebay Message-ID: <2SNaf.1172$ZA3.269217@monger.newsread.com> Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 18:35:42 GMT Yes, I see that. Thank you for pointing this out. "jim menning" wrote in message news:twNaf.13917$8K4.8373@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message > news:yoMaf.1167$ZA3.268290@monger.newsread.com... > > > > But that sinply isn't the case. Every retraction is counted and so > > many > > against you is penalized as they represent a lack of attention being > > paid to > > bidding and can affect other bidders. > > > > Penalized? So tell me how this bidder can have 25 retractions in just > the last 6 months and still be active. Check the total under his > feedback numbers. > > http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=zenith1935 > > The number of bid retractions apparently doesn't cause an automatic > suspension. And he has been reported before for "improper bid > retractions" and "auction interference", but he continues to be active > on ebay. > > For all I know, he may be a member of this group with that user name > (zenith1935). But I have noticed in several auctions in the past > where he bids to peek at the reserve or other bidder's proxy bids, and > then cancels his bids. I hate to step on anyone's toes here if this > is a member of our group, but this is not fair to the rest of us that > play by the rules. > > jim menning > > Article: 325284 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <4KLaf.13693$8K4.7681@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: latest acquisition -- Crosley Fiver Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 18:38:14 GMT Maybe...do you realize that there isn't much if any of a search that can give you a clue and get you there or I haven't found much use in it? "jim menning" wrote in message news:OANaf.13918$8K4.12043@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message > news:CrMaf.1169$ZA3.268310@monger.newsread.com... > > > > That was correct, but sorta harsh. You sounded frustrated and a bit > > chaste. > > > > I only get frustrated with you. > > Harsh? I don't think so. I gave him more than enough information to > find the answer (I gave him the direct link), and my response served > as a reminder to all who read the post that they can often find the > answers they want easily, if they just learn to help themselves rather > than have everyone else volunteer their time over and over for the > same thing. > > Wow, that was an uncharacteristically long sentence from me. > > jim menning > > Article: 325285 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <11mn8kbg90a6ae2@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: good ole ebay Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 18:59:35 GMT "Steve P." wrote in message news:11mn8kbg90a6ae2@corp.supernews.com... > > The way I understand it bidders can retract bids for any reason at > any time. "Except under special circumstances, bid retraction is not permitted. " http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/invalid-bid-retraction.html > Sellers also have the courtesy of cancelling auctions for any reason > at any time. Courtesy? Auctions can not be canceled for "any reason" or at "any time". There are specific rules dealing with the when and why. http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/end_early.html > Just yesterday I had a bid retraction on one of my auction. Bidder > placed a $2079 maximum bid when he meant $20.79... he retracted and > reentered. Didn't bother me a bit and I clearly saw what happened. I > would have did the same. There are many auction abusers who do this on purpose (often to see the reserve or other bidder proxies), and not by accident. In a case such as you just explained, you should be referring the bidder to the bid retraction form, and let them retract their bid properly. http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?RetractBidShow I'd be curious and check the number of bid retractions on that bidder's feedback page and see if he has a "habit" of doing this. If a bidder has a history of this type of behavior, I'd report them for improper bid retraction. http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/invalid-bid-retraction.html > > What does bother me are bidders who retract their high bids within > the last few minutes or hours of an auction... then pick a reason > from the drop down box like "seller changed description" which is a > lie. Bids can no longer be retracted in the last 12 hours of an auction except under exceptional circumstances. "If you place a bid before the last 12-hours of the listing: You may retract that bid before that last 12-hours, if your situation meets the above description of exceptional circumstances. You will not be allowed to retract that bid during the last 12-hours of the listing." "If you place a bid during the last 12-hours of the listing: You may retract the bid only within one hour after placing the bid (and if your situation meets eBay's exceptional circumstances description)." http://pages.ebay.com/help/buy/bid-retract.html If the bidder does retract and uses a false reason, report them. Link is under the "Additional Information" section on the page linked here: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/invalid-bid-retraction.html > That's buyer's remorse and can ruin a good auction if you don't get > another high bidder or the next to highest bidder doesn't agree to > buy it at the end... and really you can't blame them. This has only > happened to me twice in 300 auctions, but usually they're high value > auctions. It can be buyer's remorse, but it can also be a lot of other things that are even more nefarious. There are lots of rules at eBay to keep the playing ground fair for all. I believe in reporting those who fail to play by the rules. Especially those who interfere with auctions I am interested in or those who are repetitively guilty of "keyword spamming" that wastes my time while doing searches. jim menning Article: 325286 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <6YMaf.709$ip6.624@trnddc07> Subject: Re: Interesting recording Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 19:39:01 GMT Something else that's interesting is the fact that both the AK and the Philco records start inside -- even though in the case of AK, the stop mechanism has to be disabled just to play it. This is highly unusual for a consumer record, but this practice was very common with radio transcriptions. Does anybody know why they did this? I know the answer, but I'm curious to hear how many others know this. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Mike Schultz" wrote in message news:6YMaf.709$ip6.624@trnddc07... > There was a similar recording for Philco, promoting their "balanced units" > and tone control features, and one for Victor (pre-RCA). There were, no > doubt, others. > > -- > Mike Schultz > > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:AUJaf.5575$yX2.3713@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >>I recently found, on the internet, a recording from an Atwater Kent >>demonstration record, which demonstrates the pure, natural sound of >>Atwater Kent radios with the "golden voice." At first I was wondering how >>this got played into a radio, but reading it again I realize it was used >>to demonstrate a radio/phono combo. I downloaded it and put it on a CD, >>so now I can play it into my AMT-3000, and into my AK 60. It is quite >>interesting to listen to, particularly through that radio. If you ever >>wanted to demo such a radio to friends, this is one slick way to do it! >> >> The demo recording can be found at: >> >> http://www.atwaterkent.com/articles/audio/ >> >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> > > Article: 325287 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1131074575.408574.207080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: The $0.06 Solution Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 19:48:26 GMT I'll have to file away for future use. Some 50 years from now, when we pride ourselves in restoring old CD players, I'll know that this problem can be fixed with a nickel and a penny. The trick will be to use the collectible coins that were minted before 2019, as the newer ones are thinner and made of pot metal. Use the copper Lincoln pennies, not the gray ones with Bill Clinton on them. For the nickels, use buffalo or Jefferson, not Nixon. :-) -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1131074575.408574.207080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com... > OK, my prized Revox B225 CD player decided to throw a gasket the other > day, Chattering on load/unload and skipping like crazy... coincidental > to the colder weather but not necessarily related. > > Off comes the top, and I see that the guide rails are dry. I also see > that the motor support bearing (visible from below) is also looking a > little dry. Some PTFE oil on a needle for the support bearing, and some > lithium grease for the rails and the skipping stops but the chattering > (gear teeth slipping, it turns out) remains. There is no appearance of > wear on either the rack or the pinion, so I conclude that either the > motor mount has come loose or the rack mount has lowered some how. > Turned out to be the motor mount coming loose, allowing the motor to > tilt back, so the pinion will miss the gears at end-of-travel. THAT > turned out to be a decayed apparently-pot-metal washer on a support > screw, half of which had come loose. That un-crushed half turned out to > be exactly the same thickness as one penny nested inside one nickel... > $0.06, which is now super-glued in place ILO the powdered washer. > > Everything works fine now. The front flexible mounts are just fine, it > was the fixed-thickness rear mount washer that failed. > > Don't be afraid to try alternate solutions, guys and gals. Just be > aware of and use the Hippocratic model: First, do no harm. > > But then, no CD player is supposed to last 22 years, is it? > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 325288 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1131125608.572851.19970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: latest acquisition -- Crosley Fiver Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 19:52:53 GMT Actually I polished up another Crosley dial cover with Crest toothpaste, and it came out looking wonderful. This one has a blemish, where it looks as though it had been accidentally poked at one time. It is not punctured, but there's a definite mark that cannot be polished out. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "nesesu" wrote in message news:1131125608.572851.19970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > Gary, I have found that most intact dial covers respond well to Novus > plastic polish. I remove them from the cabinet so the plastic can be > easily supported from too much flexing while the Novus is being applied > to outside and inside. Generally I find that 80-90% of the yellowing > disappears and the cover is quite transparent. Most minor blemishes > also disappear or are made much less noticeable. > If the dial cover can be saved, it is one less 'non-original' part to a > restoration. > As mentioned in recent posts, there are several makers of new ones or > you can DIY from the information in the posts. > > Neil S. > Article: 325289 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) Subject: Thordarson TS-24R00 specs Date: 4 Nov 2005 20:35:21 GMT Message-ID: I downloaded the Thordarson catalog on BAMA, but it didn't have the TS-24R00 transformer. Any know the specs? I need the B+ current rating. TIA, Steve. -- Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Article: 325290 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: good ole ebay Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 14:16:54 -0700 Message-ID: References: "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:KxJaf.300182$084.300012@attbi_s22... > In article , hacky@smackeycrackey.com > says... >> >> >>i see this in both the 'learn about bidding' and on the page where you >>bid: >>'eBay will now bid on your behalf up to the maximum amount you're willing >>to >>pay for that item' >> > Big Snip... >> >>randy > > Well Ebay put the retract bid bit in there so people that make mistakes > like the example of 1237 dollars rather than 12.37 can fix their errors... > > now I have seen examples where guys bid exactly like the above example > and it isn't an error... it is a way of finding out what the sellers > reserve price is.. > > so U bid $1237 .... and up pops the Congrats Sonny U just made the > reserve on this radio widget at 500 bucks!... > > then U retract the error bid of 1237 and put in $12.37 .... and > you are at that point the only one who knows the reserve price... > > Now if a bidder makes a habit of doing the above... pretty soon.. yup > FleaBay is going to be upset with him.. > > for someone like Randy that retracted one bid and hasn't a history > of doing it... they wouldn't pay any attention one way or the other. > Even if the seller complained .. most any lame excuse would be acceptable > to ebay.. yeah i didnt do a probe bid. there was no reserve in the auction. there was no bidders. it was days before it ended. to the best of my knowledge, since the conception of ebay i have retracted exactly two bids. this one, and one a long time ago for a reason which escapes me right now, but it wasnt to 'probe'. randy Article: 325291 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: good ole ebay Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 06:59:16 +0900 Message-ID: References: <11mn8kbg90a6ae2@corp.supernews.com> "jim menning" wrote in message news:rcOaf.13920$8K4.12392@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > Courtesy? Auctions can not be canceled for "any reason" or at "any time". > There are specific rules dealing with the when and why. > http://pages.ebay.com/help/sell/end_early.html Yeah, that's a rule, all right. And practically meaningless. That very first rule is a catch-all. And number 2 is pretty much a catch-all. a.. The item is no longer available for sale. a.. There was an error in the starting price or reserve amount. So I guess it's pretty much true you can end any auction at any time. When you do, the item is no longer available for sale. Article: 325292 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Comparing old prices/earnings to new? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 22:02:06 GMT In article , analogdial@worldnet.att.net says... > > >The Bureau of Labor Statistics has an inflation calculator on this page: > >http://www.bls.gov/cpi/home.htm > >Frank Dresser > > Looks to me like something wrong with their calculator... I put in $630 in 1932 and it tells me that is in todays dollars $9141.90 ... so the first is what it cost to buy your average 1932 Ford Automobile. So tell me what New Car can I buy today for $9141 ?.... certainly a long way from a correct number it appears to me... or what am I doing wrong here? John k9uwa Article: 325293 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: good ole ebay From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 22:19:05 GMT In article , hacky@smackeycrackey.com says... > > > >to the best of my knowledge, since the conception of ebay i have retracted >exactly two bids. this one, and one a long time ago for a reason which >escapes me right now, but it wasnt to 'probe'. > >randy > > Wellin Randy's case I am sure he could retract almost any type of bid and survive the retraction with zero words from Ebay... particularily after looking at the record of Zenith 1935 .... interesting.... thats one of the items on the feedback bit I never paid any attention to... until now that is... looked at my own.... it said zero retractions.. will watch that on my bidders a bit!... John k9uwa Article: 325294 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: latest acquisition -- Crosley Fiver From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1131125608.572851.19970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 22:26:39 GMT In article , gtayman@gate.net says... > > >I polished up another Crosley dial cover with Crest toothpaste >Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Crest is about like the #3 Novus Polish.... where as stated the #1 and #2 will get you there a lot faster... John k9uwa Article: 325295 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Zenith chassis hold-downs From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <27688-436B7BD7-447@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 22:32:38 GMT In article <27688-436B7BD7-447@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net>, goodguyy@webtv.net says... > > >John .. how on earth did the glass get broken with the radio on its back >? Do you travel on roads or ``off road`` :-) > >When i haul these radios i lay them on there back . The chassis sags >away from the glass on those springs . easy over train tracks ! > Yup suprised me too... all interstate roads between my place and the drop off point in Chicago Suburb ... maybe a few miles of slower city streets and such... that sucker jumped right up and cracked the glass.... now I crank them down almost tight tight tight for transportation... and if its one I ship I tell the guy on the other end how to uncrank it prior to using the radio.. John Article: 325296 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Message-ID: <436be1a7$0$11069$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> From: maarten@panic.xx.tudelft.nl Subject: Re: latest acquisition -- Crosley Fiver References: <1131125608.572851.19970@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Date: 04 Nov 2005 22:33:11 GMT Gary Tayman wrote: > Actually I polished up another Crosley dial cover with Crest toothpaste, and > it came out looking wonderful. This one has a blemish, where it looks as > though it had been accidentally poked at one time. It is not punctured, but > there's a definite mark that cannot be polished out. Is there a chance that heating it would help? - Met vriendelijke groet, Maarten Bakker. Article: 325297 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: PHILCO 90 IF FREQ, 175 or 260 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:36:18 -0500 I have two 90's on the bench, sn 455027 and 498968,3 each with one 47 output tube. On one data sheet, the paperwork I have says above sn 237001, the if is 175kc. In the 'Complete Instructions for Adjusting all Philco Rec', it says with one 47 output, the if is 260kc. I aligned one to 175kc a few years ago, seemed to do ok. Tried to do the latest one at 175, ckts peak but very broadly, can't get dial tracking right, reads high on most stations, which means I can't get the osc high enough at 175 kc if. But if I go to 260kc if, I'll need a still higher osc frequency. Is my thinking screwed up on this??? Help! Ken Article: 325298 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Registered User Subject: Re: good ole ebay Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 17:22:38 -0500 Message-ID: References: <11mn8kbg90a6ae2@corp.supernews.com> On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 18:59:35 GMT, "jim menning" wrote: >Especially those who interfere with auctions I am interested in or >those who are repetitively guilty of "keyword spamming" that wastes my >time while doing searches. > What is the point of differentiation between keyword spamming and outright misrepresentation? The former bothers you but the latter appears to be quite acceptable. I guess the buyer should have known better but penalizing the browser is just unfair. Article: 325299 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <11mn8kbg90a6ae2@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: good ole ebay Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 22:59:46 GMT "Registered User" wrote in message news:vpmnm1lneqdhc240sq1edsjnq6jclcrjav@4ax.com... > On Fri, 04 Nov 2005 18:59:35 GMT, "jim menning" > wrote: > >>Especially those who interfere with auctions I am interested in or >>those who are repetitively guilty of "keyword spamming" that wastes >>my >>time while doing searches. >> > > What is the point of differentiation between keyword spamming and > outright misrepresentation? The former bothers you but the latter > appears to be quite acceptable. I guess the buyer should have known > better but penalizing the browser is just unfair. Where did I ever state or imply that I find misrepresentation quite acceptable? I'm certainly not for any type of that, but why do you wish to put words into my mouth by claiming I find it acceptable? Please stop "misrepresenting" what I've said! If you'd re-read the two sentences before the one you quoted, you would clearly see that I'm not for ANY kind of rule violations. Misrepresentation is often hard to determine, and especially difficult for eBay to deal with. And you often only have a claim or complaint AFTER you've made a purchase. I just have a peeve against keyword spamming because of the number of incidents and amount of my time wasted by such misbehavior. With keyword spam, if I am looking for Zenith + Porthole, and I get 200 hits of totally unrelated items because one guy decides he wants to hide a few thousand keywords in white on white text, I have a clear eBay violation that is easy to report. Once reported and the seller has his auctions canceled, they are less likely to repeat that behavior. Result is that with taking 2 minutes to report it, I may have saved myself hours of future grief. jim menning Article: 325300 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <4KLaf.13693$8K4.7681@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> <3gOaf.13921$8K4.8927@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com> Subject: Re: latest acquisition -- Crosley Fiver Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 23:06:21 GMT "jim menning" wrote in message news:3gOaf.13921$8K4.8927@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message > news:qUNaf.1173$ZA3.269400@monger.newsread.com... > > > > Maybe...do you realize that there isn't much if any of a search that > > can > > give you a clue and get you there or I haven't found much use in it? > > > > Just another one of your flaws. > > jim menning I'd be worried if I didn't have a few... Article: 325301 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brenda Ann" Subject: Re: PHILCO 90 IF FREQ, 175 or 260 Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:09:51 +0900 Message-ID: References: "Ken" wrote in message news:OnRaf.7160$CC.1416@dukeread09... >I have two 90's on the bench, sn 455027 and 498968,3 each with one 47 >output tube. On one data sheet, the paperwork I have says above sn 237001, >the if is 175kc. In the 'Complete Instructions for Adjusting all Philco >Rec', it says with one 47 output, the if is 260kc. I aligned one to 175kc a >few years ago, seemed to do ok. Tried to do the latest one at 175, ckts >peak but very broadly, can't get dial tracking right, reads high on most >stations, which means I can't get the osc high enough at 175 kc if. But if >I go to 260kc if, I'll need a still higher osc frequency. Is my thinking >screwed up on this??? Help! Ken > Depends on whether you're going high or low in reference to incoming signal. Article: 325302 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: Comparing old prices/earnings to new? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 23:10:38 GMT "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:yTQaf.301794$084.9767@attbi_s22... > > So tell me what New Car can I buy today for $9141 ?.... certainly > a long way from a correct number it appears to me... or what am > I doing wrong here? > A Chevy Aveo, Special Value model. Window sticker price $9,995.00. I just bought a brand new one September 30th for only $4,603.46 including tax, license and title fees after all incentives and rebates were applied. It's no Lincoln Aviator, but I'd bet it's much more comfortable, capable, and reliable than any 1932 Ford was. jim menning Article: 325303 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> Subject: Re: Interesting recording Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 00:14:52 +0100 Message-ID: References: <6YMaf.709$ip6.624@trnddc07> Gary Tayman wrote > Something else that's interesting is the fact that both the AK and the > Philco records start inside -- even though in the case of AK, the stop > mechanism has to be disabled just to play it. > > This is highly unusual for a consumer record, but this practice was very > common with radio transcriptions. Does anybody know why they did this? > I know the answer, but I'm curious to hear how many others know this. Just one logical idea in case of one-way cutting or reproducing needles: the recording "pitch" (wavelength) is shorter inside. with outside start the damage by a worn needle is much higher inside. The other idea is that semiprofessional cutting devices was driven the "wrong" way to reduce the mechanical complications. The last idea is certain marketing gag ;-) Kind Regards Georg Article: 325304 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ESDI-80 Subject: Re: Need Schematic References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 18:16:28 -0500 Saul Rabinowitz wrote: > Steven Dinius_ wrote: > >> I wish you the best of luck in your quest, as I understand Concept was a >> good brand yet I know abosolutely nothing of it. >> >> "ESDI-80" wrote in message >> news:fGfaf.11079$IB.5202@dukeread11... >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I need a schematic for a Concept 5.5 stereo receiver. I need to know of >>> a good reputable source where I can order one. >>> > > It's coming back to me out of the cobwebs of time... > > "Concept" was a house brand of the Pacific Stereo chain. The products > were unique -- not existing stuff with their logo slapped on. As I > recall, it wasn't possible to get repair data -- kind of like trying to > get a schematic from Radio Shack for an Archer item. Or like trying to > get a schematic from Panasonic for a contemporary product that they deem > "unrepairable." At least, that's what a friend who did repair work told > me. We used to sometimes buy parts from Pacific's HQ repair shop; they > were quite friendly to us and would sometimes photocopy pages from > manuals for us -- but manuals from other companies -- not their own. > > I hope that I'm wrong. > > As far as the quality of the brand went, it varied. Some items were > cheap and poorly-built, others were decent: none were outstanding -- > this was not an audiophile company. Things with circuits were simply > imported. Speakers were assembled in Emeryville, California at their HQ. > Their turntables were sometimes imported, sometimes assembled in > Emeryville from imported parts. > > For many problems, it may be possible for you to hunt and peck your way > to a decent repair. > > Saul Saul, That stinks, I was hoping to get a schematic for it. However the set is not dead at all. In face it is working fine. I have just been noticing that the output transistors were running warmer then normal. I am 90% sure its degraded caps. Basically I just need to something to compair voltages with at different placed in the receiver. As far as quality goes, this receiver is very well made. Much better then the stuff I have seen today. Rated at 55 WPC, yet it seems way more powerfull. Thanks for the help. On a side note: I know this is an antique radio board and I enjoy reading it. Everyone seems very friendly here so I didn't see it being a problem to post here. Oh well, I do really fit in, in to many places anyway. Article: 325305 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1131144058.002238.178540@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Comparing old prices/earnings to new? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 23:30:37 GMT "Paul Dietenberger" wrote in message news:1131144058.002238.178540@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > > I bet if Model As were mass-produced in America today you could buy > them for a lot less than $9100. You're forgetting the technological > improvements made since 1932, which have to be paid for somehow..... > Maybe you're a bit too young to remember when Ford tried that once before. Ford sold thousands of Model A Shay replicars in the late 1970's early 1980's. At that time they were priced at $7,995, and had a Pinto drivetrain. But they weren't produced in any assembly line. They were built by teams of workers doing the entire assembly. I wonder how cheaply they could have been manufactured if they had enough demand to set up a real production assembly line. There are lots of these that come up for sale regularly, usually very low miles, and only $10-15,000. jim menning Article: 325306 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1131146446.706195.232000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Comparing old prices/earnings to new? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 23:44:21 GMT "frenchy" wrote in message news:1131146446.706195.232000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > << $9,995.00. > I just bought a brand new one September 30th for only $4,603.46 >>> > > How come you can get a 10K car for half price but I can barely get > dealers to quote me 5K off a $44,000 T-bird? What'd you do, hold > the > guy up? > Motivated dealer with too much stock on hand, not enough demand for this model, lots of local competition, factory and dealer incentives, last day of their summer promotion, last day of their financial quarter (both GM and the dealership), next years model already on the lot, GM card rebate bonus, employee price sale, $1,000 dealer fun money, $500 gas card. Watching the results of these promotions, looks like GM shot themselves in the foot. Most everyone that wanted a GM vehicle bought one during the summer promotions. Now they are having a hard time selling anything. Sales are going downhill, as are their stock and bond ratings. jim menning Article: 325307 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: good ole ebay Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 16:53:07 -0700 Message-ID: References: i think i read somewhere that it follows you for 6 months then falls off. randy items on the feedback bit I never paid any attention to... > > until now that is... looked at my own.... it said zero retractions.. > will watch that on my bidders a bit!... > > John k9uwa > Article: 325308 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1131144058.002238.178540@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Comparing old prices/earnings to new? Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 23:53:11 GMT "jim menning" wrote in message news:xaSaf.14171$8K4.3098@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > > Maybe you're a bit too young to remember when Ford tried that once > before. > > Ford sold thousands of Model A Shay replicars in the late 1970's > early 1980's. Paul, I just checked eBay. There is one for sale not far from you. If you're curious, check it out! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4586612658 jim menning Article: 325309 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: Subject: Re: good ole ebay Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 23:55:23 GMT "xrongor" wrote in message news:dkgs91$4f41$1@news3.infoave.net... > > >i think i read somewhere that it follows you for 6 months then falls >off. > > randy That's probably correct. The visible counter on the feedback page only displays retractions for the last 6 months. I have no idea if eBay keeps records of retractions longer than that. jim menning Article: 325310 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: PHILCO 90 IF FREQ, 175 or 260 References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 19:04:23 -0500 Most BC sets use high side injection. Brenda Ann wrote: > "Ken" wrote in message > news:OnRaf.7160$CC.1416@dukeread09... > >>I have two 90's on the bench, sn 455027 and 498968,3 each with one 47 >>output tube. On one data sheet, the paperwork I have says above sn 237001, >>the if is 175kc. In the 'Complete Instructions for Adjusting all Philco >>Rec', it says with one 47 output, the if is 260kc. I aligned one to 175kc a >>few years ago, seemed to do ok. Tried to do the latest one at 175, ckts >>peak but very broadly, can't get dial tracking right, reads high on most >>stations, which means I can't get the osc high enough at 175 kc if. But if >>I go to 260kc if, I'll need a still higher osc frequency. Is my thinking >>screwed up on this??? Help! Ken >> > > > Depends on whether you're going high or low in reference to incoming signal. > > Article: 325311 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Crazy George" References: Subject: Re: Thordarson TS-24R00 specs Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 18:30:19 -0600 Message-ID: <436c00a5_1@news1.prserv.net> 240 volts @ 40 ma. -- Crazy George W5VPQ My real address is my ham call ARRL.NET The ATTGlobal is a SPAM trap. "Steven Swift" wrote in message news:dkggm9$n0q$1@eskinews.eskimo.com... > I downloaded the Thordarson catalog on BAMA, but it didn't have the > TS-24R00 transformer. Any know the specs? I need the B+ current rating. > > TIA, > > Steve. > > -- > Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com > NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 > 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Article: 325313 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) Subject: Re: Thordarson TS-24R00 specs Date: 5 Nov 2005 01:04:22 GMT Message-ID: References: <436c00a5_1@news1.prserv.net> Thanks, "Crazy" that's exactly what I needed. "Crazy George" writes: >240 volts @ 40 ma. >My real address is my ham call ARRL.NET The ATTGlobal is a SPAM trap. >"Steven Swift" wrote in message >news:dkggm9$n0q$1@eskinews.eskimo.com... >> I downloaded the Thordarson catalog on BAMA, but it didn't have the >> TS-24R00 transformer. Any know the specs? I need the B+ current rating. >> >> TIA, >> >> Steve. >> -- Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Article: 325314 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Interesting recording Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 19:18:32 -0700 Message-ID: References: its all there, but my favorite is '...modern radio for your modern home in this modern age' i love listening to old advertising randy "Gary Tayman" wrote in message news:AUJaf.5575$yX2.3713@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >I recently found, on the internet, a recording from an Atwater Kent >demonstration record, which demonstrates the pure, natural sound of Atwater >Kent radios with the "golden voice." At first I was wondering how this got >played into a radio, but reading it again I realize it was used to >demonstrate a radio/phono combo. I downloaded it and put it on a CD, so >now I can play it into my AMT-3000, and into my AK 60. It is quite >interesting to listen to, particularly through that radio. If you ever >wanted to demo such a radio to friends, this is one slick way to do it! > > The demo recording can be found at: > > http://www.atwaterkent.com/articles/audio/ > > > > -- > Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > Sound Solutions For Classic Cars > http://www.taymanelectrical.com > > Article: 325315 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Lyndell Scott" References: Subject: Re: PHILCO 90 IF FREQ, 175 or 260 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 02:35:35 GMT There is an error in the Philco data sheets which is also in the Riders Manuals. The correct IF for the higher serial numbers should be 260KC instead of 175KC if I remember correctly. Article: 325316 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: PHILCO 90 IF FREQ, 175 or 260 References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 21:42:29 -0500 According to your data, my tube comp says 260kc, but my sn says 175kc. That's what I'm finding with my Philco data ??? Man o man. Ken Ed M wrote: > Paperwork I have here, Sylvania Tube Compliment Book with IF Peaks, says: > > 90 Above 237,001 260 KHz > 90 Above 353,100 175 KHz. > > Tube compliment is also different: > > 260KHz models: 3 - 24A, 4 - 27, 1 - 47, 1 - 80 > > 175KHz models: 1 - 24A, 3 - 27, 2 - 35/51, 2 - 47, 1 - 80 > > > > "Ken" wrote in message > news:OnRaf.7160$CC.1416@dukeread09... > >>I have two 90's on the bench, sn 455027 and 498968,3 each with one 47 >>output tube. On one data sheet, the paperwork I have says above sn 237001, >>the if is 175kc. In the 'Complete Instructions for Adjusting all Philco >>Rec', it says with one 47 output, the if is 260kc. I aligned one to 175kc a >>few years ago, seemed to do ok. Tried to do the latest one at 175, ckts >>peak but very broadly, can't get dial tracking right, reads high on most >>stations, which means I can't get the osc high enough at 175 kc if. But if >>I go to 260kc if, I'll need a still higher osc frequency. Is my thinking >>screwed up on this??? Help! Ken >> > > > Article: 325317 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Interesting recording Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 03:09:58 GMT Just like Blue Coal on those Shadow ads. The modern way to heat! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "xrongor" wrote in message news:dkh4pl$4iu1$1@news3.infoave.net... > its all there, but my favorite is '...modern radio for your modern home in > this modern age' > > i love listening to old advertising > > randy > > "Gary Tayman" wrote in message > news:AUJaf.5575$yX2.3713@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net... >>I recently found, on the internet, a recording from an Atwater Kent >>demonstration record, which demonstrates the pure, natural sound of >>Atwater Kent radios with the "golden voice." At first I was wondering how >>this got played into a radio, but reading it again I realize it was used >>to demonstrate a radio/phono combo. I downloaded it and put it on a CD, >>so now I can play it into my AMT-3000, and into my AK 60. It is quite >>interesting to listen to, particularly through that radio. If you ever >>wanted to demo such a radio to friends, this is one slick way to do it! >> >> The demo recording can be found at: >> >> http://www.atwaterkent.com/articles/audio/ >> >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com >> >> > > Article: 325318 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <6YMaf.709$ip6.624@trnddc07> Subject: Re: Interesting recording Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 03:23:06 GMT Good guesses. The real reason: higher velocity provides for higher fidelity, at least with all other factors being the same. So with a disk recording, the fidelity is better toward the outside of the record because the needle moves at greater speed. In the case of radio programs, the format was usually such that the beginning was mostly talk, with a musical number several minutes into the show. So they recorded the disk to start inside, so the musical part would be closer to the outer edge of the record, providing higher fidelity. In the case of these demo records, (at least with the AK) the narrator starts by talking up the features of the radio, then plays music so you can listen to it. By starting inside, the music is toward the outside, providing for higher fidelity. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Georg Richter" <520066970381-0001@T-Online.de> wrote in message news:dkgq1d$ipa$02$1@news.t-online.com... > Gary Tayman wrote > >> Something else that's interesting is the fact that both the AK and > the >> Philco records start inside -- even though in the case of AK, the > stop >> mechanism has to be disabled just to play it. >> >> This is highly unusual for a consumer record, but this practice was > very > common with radio transcriptions. Does anybody know why they > did this? > I know the answer, but I'm curious to hear how many > others know this. > > Just one logical idea in case of one-way cutting or reproducing > needles: > the recording "pitch" (wavelength) is shorter inside. with outside > start > the damage by a worn needle is much higher inside. > > The other idea is that semiprofessional cutting devices was driven the > "wrong" way to reduce the mechanical complications. > > The last idea is certain marketing gag ;-) > > Kind Regards > Georg > > > Article: 325319 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "effi" Subject: Re: zenith conole Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 21:29:19 -0600 Message-ID: <11mo9oa9jrct5e@corp.supernews.com> References: <11mj0eg6r0iqg4e@corp.supernews.com> <1130989702.629288.50900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message news:1130989702.629288.50900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > What model are you talking about? If the original speaker has a field > coil- aka electrodynamic speaker- then you must account for the field > coil AND the voice coil. If the original speaker has a permanent > magnet, then why not find a matching replacement? Maybe the old speaker > can be repaired. Some of the folks here can do amazing things with > "blown" speakers. the problem with rebuilding the original speaker is the cones are right under 12" in diameter (12" speaker), wich is easu enough to replace, but the depth is about 3 and 1/4", so replacement cones are basically nonexistent (unless maybe you or someone here knows a source for cones that deep) it is a 9H885 console am/fm phonograph speaker measures at 4 ohms and has # 49CZ624 on it the schematic says it is a 4 ohm speaker Article: 325320 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <1131159504.788514.285670@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: "My First Catalin" page updated again Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:45:45 -0500 Message-ID: <436c2ae7$0$32197$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> I've got one of those myself. It's one of my favorite personal sets. My wife got it for me for my birthday a number of years ago. Mine was presented to an employee of an abrasives company. Ironically, someone did their damndest to remove the engraving with sandpaper. Looks terrible on that side, but the rest of the set looks great. Wished they'd left it alone....:-| wrote in message news:1131159504.788514.285670@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I've added scans of the original RCA service literature for this radio > to my page. Also please see the scans of the original sales brochure I > added a few weeks ago. > > http://members.aol.com/tschw10118/myfirstcatalin.htm > > Enjoy! > > Thanks > > Terry. > Article: 325321 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bill Morris" References: <1131159504.788514.285670@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: "My First Catalin" page updated again Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:48:25 -0500 Message-ID: <436c2b87$0$32200$39cecf19@news.twtelecom.net> I might add, it went for $75 in 1948-49--something like $500 in today's money! wrote in message news:1131159504.788514.285670@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I've added scans of the original RCA service literature for this radio > to my page. Also please see the scans of the original sales brochure I > added a few weeks ago. > > http://members.aol.com/tschw10118/myfirstcatalin.htm > > Enjoy! > > Thanks > > Terry. > Article: 325322 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: Pay Pal Payments Ebay Guido Collector Type needed Springfield,MO From: lherault@bu.edu References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131066553.524341.62230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 03:52:53 GMT Message-ID: <436c2bdd_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> E-bay has changed the rules RE: PayPal. If you offer PP now, you must accept credit card payments. If you accept credit card payments, you can no longer use a personal PP account. It must be "upgraded" to a professional or platinum or somesuchthing account. You are then liable for fees for all transactions, even the ones that were free under a personal account. Ron L Article: 325323 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 00:11:53 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: OT: Pay Pal Payments Ebay Guido Collector Type needed Springfield,MO References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131066553.524341.62230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <436c2bdd_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> Message-ID: lherault@bu.edu wrote: > E-bay has changed the rules RE: PayPal. If you offer PP now, you must > accept credit card payments. If you accept credit card payments, you can no > longer use a personal PP account. It must be "upgraded" to a professional > or platinum or somesuchthing account. You are then liable for fees for all > transactions, even the ones that were free under a personal account. > > Ron L I think it has always been that way in some iteration or other. In fact, didn't it use to be that once you reached a certain volume of incoming payments you were required to upgrade? I remember being pissed off about that a few years ago since I now have to pay fees as a recipient, credit card or not. Beats me....the rules change faster than I can keep up with them. I just play the game and try to stay out of trouble. -Bill Article: 325324 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: Pay Pal Payments Ebay Guido Collector Type needed Springfield,MO From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131066553.524341.62230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <436c2bdd_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 04:32:32 GMT In article , exray@coqui.net says... > > I >just play the game and try to stay out of trouble. > >-Bill yup at 50 bucks years ago they forced us to become "Premier Members" Today I be one of those.... in fact we have paid paypal more than 500 bucks over the last month in fees... Scary when I looked at a few facts.... also in the last 30 days the post office and UPS together haven't gotten $2575 from us... actually someone else of course paid those fees.... John k9uwa Article: 325325 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: The $0.06 Solution From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1131074575.408574.207080@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131143997.112285.199440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <5GWaf.520258$_o.181095@attbi_s71> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 04:37:21 GMT In article <1131143997.112285.199440@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>, cadyc@mchsi.com says... > > >Or wait, maybe the Clinton penny would have a bush on it? :-o > >Tox > sorta like one bush is worth two hands? John k9uwa Article: 325326 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" Subject: Victor RE 57 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2005 22:54:33 -0800 Just saw one go down by the 'Bay for $911 USD tonight. It had the mic, the weight for cutting records, and about 40 blanks, IIRC. Does anyone know whether that's a carbon mic they used? I have my eye on one for about 1/4 the price at a local antique shop, no mic, and the cabinet has been painted white with gold highlights.(!) Cheers, Nelson Article: 325327 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Interesting recording From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 23:57:17 -0500 "Gary Tayman" wrote in news:AUJaf.5575$yX2.3713@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net: > http://www.atwaterkent.com/articles/audio/ Thanks for the link! Very interesting. I've converted it using Total Recorder to a low resolution 1.6MB MP3 file that got rid of a lot of the hiss/scratching at the low sample rate and posted it to the picture binary group so the guys on slooooow dialups can download it easier. If you don't have a good converter, Total recorder is cheap shareware from http://www.highcriteria.com/ and will record ANYTHING to or from your soundcard into almost any file format, even unattended. I use it to snatch BBC radio show streams to MP3 stereo so I can play them in my car on my 100GB Digital Mind MP3/WAV/WMP/OGG portable hard drive player. BBC2 radio is lots better than listening to American AM or FM radio's constant commercials and self-promotions repeating the callsign/frequency over and over and over trying to get ratings. Total Recorder is a sound card proxy engine the data passes through for ripping to files, whether the webpage's locked-up player likes it or not! -- Larry Article: 325328 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Interesting recording From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 00:04:05 -0500 "xrongor" wrote in news:dkh4pl$4iu1$1@news3.infoave.net: > i love listening to old advertising > > randy > I've got quite a collection of old ads/promos in MP3 format, like Fred Flintstone selling the kids Winston Cigarettes, for instance. Some are classics, some not. I also have an MP3 of a 1925 Edison record to its music dealers with Edison's son and all their department heads promising the dealers the awful 1925 record sales were going to get better. On the end of it, a very old Thomas Edison comes on and says he was going to sing on the record but his wife said he "sounded like a frog" so he wouldn't. He also promised to kick the other guys in the pants to make them more responsive to the dealers. I'll dig it out if your interested....(c; They were all posted to alt.binaries.sounds.78rpm-era over the years. I've got over 19M MP3 files of all kinds of music, OTR and stuff. -- Larry Article: 325329 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT - Need help finding part newer Radio From: Larry References: <1130954760.984244.163730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1130958858.682435.198020@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 00:22:03 -0500 "Sal D'Ambra" wrote in news:vv-dnc5nsP1E6_TeRVn-pQ@comcast.com: > No name, Just the numbers & Japan. There are two of them in the radio > which is not stereo. Both have the same number. > > Sal, I don't find these numbers, which may be just house numbers in Moto's plant, but I have great success with old Japanese parts at: http://www.pacificsemi.com/ Pacific Semiconductors Inc. #371 - 2416 Main Street Vancouver, BC V5T 3E2 Canada Email: info@pacificsemi.com Tel: 604-874-7111 Fax: 604-873-6090 FOR ORDER CONFIRMATION and PAYMENT ONLY: 1-800-663-6731 (in US/CANADA) Their parts are quite cheap, but they do have minimum order of $CN25 to make it worth their while. Instead of paying an organ company $68 for a power amp IC no longer made they think I can't get, I get $25 worth of them >from Pacific Semiconductor for $4.79 each and stock the spares for later. (Chinese-made STK086 in this case.) Pacific Semi isn't cheapest but sure are fast when ordered right online. They have all the old 2S(x) Japanese transistors, too! -- Larry Article: 325330 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier From: Larry References: <4362de09_5@newsfeed.slurp.net> <1130557916.642795.207850@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 00:25:59 -0500 Roger D Johnson wrote in news:Nb6dnbYgEduYSP7eRVn- pw@adelphia.com: > You could always diagnose the problem when a cruiser > came screaming into the parking lot with the officer hanging out > the window gasping for breath! > > 73, Roger > How many radio techs shorted out the seleniums to get even for those tickets?.....hee hee. -- Larry Article: 325331 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier From: Larry References: <4362de09_5@newsfeed.slurp.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 00:42:40 -0500 lherault@bu.edu wrote in news:4362de09_5@newsfeed.slurp.net: > How can one tell if it is OK? It conducts slightly, but not much, better in one direction than the other....(c; If it doesn't stink when you light it off, it's probably fine. The cap's dried out and makes it hummmmmm. I find it amusing that guys on here that spend hours stuffing an old capacitor can with modern caps hidden away inside to make it look original, have no problem with wholesale replacement of perfectly good OEM selenium rectifiers with modern diodes because they "all go bad." There's a Zenith AM-FM plastic table radio on my nightstand that has a HOT AM receiver in it running on a selenium almost every night. The case has holes below the rectifier to draw cooling air into it from convection it's so inefficient. Isn't that why we listen to TUBES?! It's a rotten FM radio with its poor IF bandpass and AFC that responds to low freq bass. Running seleniums just makes life more exciting! -- Larry Article: 325332 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 02:00:45 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: OT: Pay Pal Payments Ebay Guido Collector Type needed Springfield,MO References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131066553.524341.62230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <436c2bdd_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> Message-ID: <48383$436c4a91$4232bd2a$9737@COQUI.NET> John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > > Scary when I looked at a few facts.... also in the last 30 days the post > office and UPS together haven't gotten $2575 from us... actually someone > else of course paid those fees.... > > > John k9uwa > Yipes, John. But thats exactly what some smaller unsophisticated sellers look at when they decide "I'm gonna quit accepting PayPal because it costs me xxx per month and I could be sticking that money in my pocket". The reality is that their sales prices tend to drop accordingly as they take measures to shoo away buyers by insisting on such-n-such ONLY payments which cause the buyer to reduce his bid amount. I keep anticipating the day when the 'buying/selling on ebay' process will mature but I suspect its never gonna happen. -Bill Article: 325333 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Scott W. Harvey" Subject: Re: Comparing old prices/earnings to new? Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2005 21:47:35 -0800 Message-ID: References: <1131146446.706195.232000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> jim menning wrote: > "frenchy" wrote in message > news:1131146446.706195.232000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > >><<>$9,995.00. >>I just bought a brand new one September 30th for only $4,603.46 >>> >> >>How come you can get a 10K car for half price but I can barely get >>dealers to quote me 5K off a $44,000 T-bird? What'd you do, hold >>the >>guy up? >> > > > Motivated dealer with too much stock on hand, not enough demand for > this model, lots of local competition, factory and dealer incentives, > last day of their summer promotion, last day of their financial > quarter (both GM and the dealership), next years model already on the > lot, GM card rebate bonus, employee price sale, $1,000 dealer fun > money, $500 gas card. Keep in mind also that this is one of those cars built on the assembly lines that GM bought from the bankrupt Daewoo for $0.05 on the dollar. This has got to be one of the cheapest-to-manufacture cars in constant dollars that GM has ever produced. BTW, I have noticed a spike of interest in these cars here in Northern California. With gas prices hovering around $2.75 a gallon, these are attractive because they get mileage somewhere close to a hybrid for about 1/3 the price. There ain't a lot of subcompact cars being produced by anyone anymore for the US market, so they are filling a void at the right time. > > Watching the results of these promotions, looks like GM shot > themselves in the foot. Most everyone that wanted a GM vehicle bought > one during the summer promotions. Now they are having a hard time > selling anything. Sales are going downhill, as are their stock and > bond ratings. > Bankruptcy and a shareholder revolt, coming soon to a theatre near you. GM has been so f@cked up for so long that the entrenched incompetence makes the management of the major airlines look stellar by comparison. -Scott Article: 325334 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Jeffrey D Angus Subject: Re: Interesting recording References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 06:05:17 GMT Larry wrote: > I also have an MP3 of a 1925 Edison record to its music dealers with > Edison's son and all their department heads promising the dealers the awful > 1925 record sales were going to get better. On the end of it, a very old > Thomas Edison comes on and says he was going to sing on the record but his > wife said he "sounded like a frog" so he wouldn't. He also promised to > kick the other guys in the pants to make them more responsive to the > dealers. I'll dig it out if your interested....(c; Please do... Jeff -- RESTRICTED AREA. Anyone intruding shall immediately become subject to the jurisdiction of military law. Intruders will be subject to lethal force, without warning, and on sight. USE OF DEADLY FORCE IS AUTHORIZED under the Internal Security Act of 1950. Article: 325335 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 02:40:13 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Comparing old prices/earnings to new? References: <1131146446.706195.232000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <592ae$436c53d3$4232bd2a$22678@COQUI.NET> Scott W. Harvey wrote: > jim menning wrote: > >> "frenchy" wrote in message >> news:1131146446.706195.232000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... >> >>> <<>> I just bought a brand new one September 30th for only $4,603.46 >>> >>> > > Keep in mind also that this is one of those cars built on the assembly > lines that GM bought from the bankrupt Daewoo for $0.05 on the dollar. > This has got to be one of the cheapest-to-manufacture cars in constant > dollars that GM has ever produced. > > BTW, I have noticed a spike of interest in these cars here in Northern > California. With gas prices hovering around $2.75 a gallon, these are > attractive because they get mileage somewhere close to a hybrid for > about 1/3 the price. There ain't a lot of subcompact cars being produced > by anyone anymore for the US market, so they are filling a void at the > right time. > > -Scott > > $4600? Incredible. I dont know about the 5 cents on the dollar issue but I suspect that anybody who could finagle the books and feign bankruptcy and sell cars...any car...for $4600 could have consumers tearing down the doors trying to get one. Yeah, it may be the Pinto, Vega or Honda 600 of the model year but so what? You could buy one for every day of the week compared to even a stripped down SUV! -Bill Article: 325336 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Saul Rabinowitz Subject: Re: Need Schematic References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 06:41:13 GMT ESDI-80 wrote: > Saul, > > That stinks, I was hoping to get a schematic for it. Unfortunate. We do hit secrecy among manufacturers now and then. It's been more common in audiophile products, IMO. Being able to get repair data is important for me when buying -- that is, when I remember to ask. But in these days of throw-away products, repair may be just too difficult even with the information due to obstructed access, tenacious glue instead of screws, etc. However the set is > not dead at all. In face it is working fine. I have just been noticing > that the output transistors were running warmer then normal. I am 90% > sure its degraded caps. Basically I just need to something to compair > voltages with at different placed in the receiver. > How does it sound? What kind of load are you putting on it? I know that these questions may seem irritating, but sometimes the obvious eludes us. If the load is 4 ohms and the speakers inefficient, it'll run harder. > As far as quality goes, this receiver is very well made. Much better > then the stuff I have seen today. Yes. Some of there products were actually decent. And I think that almost anything from those days was better built. Rated at 55 WPC, yet it seems way > more powerfull. > How do you know this spec? Do you have the owner's manual? If the power supply is ample enough and you're running into a 4 ohm load, an amplifier stage will typically put out quite a bit more than it's rated power into the standard 8 ohm load. Pacific Stereo could really hustle customers on the sales side, but there were other stores that were far worse. These companies can be surprising. For example, most of us don't seem to think very highly of Radio Shack, yet my experience is that every once in awhile, they come out with a real winner, and/or a truly useful unique product that fills a real need that's overlooked by everyone else. I'm surprised at those times, but I have to admit that they do exist. > Thanks for the help. > > On a side note: I know this is an antique radio board and I enjoy > reading it. Everyone seems very friendly here so I didn't see it being > a problem to post here. Oh well, I do really fit in, in to many places > anyway. Yup. We do, in fact, discuss products outside the stated range here from time-to-time (we've been round and round on washing machines!). A few of the participants can get grouchy about this, but most of us are friendly about OT products. After all, they're electronic, and we have electronic knowledge and interest, and being human in the year 2005, we are consumers of what's made today, too. Saul Article: 325337 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Interesting recording Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 00:35:28 -0700 Message-ID: References: "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns9705167743E5noone@63.223.7.253... > "xrongor" wrote in > news:dkh4pl$4iu1$1@news3.infoave.net: > >> i love listening to old advertising >> >> randy >> > > I've got quite a collection of old ads/promos in MP3 format, like Fred > Flintstone selling the kids Winston Cigarettes, for instance. Some are > classics, some not. > > I also have an MP3 of a 1925 Edison record to its music dealers with > Edison's son and all their department heads promising the dealers the > awful > 1925 record sales were going to get better. On the end of it, a very old > Thomas Edison comes on and says he was going to sing on the record but his > wife said he "sounded like a frog" so he wouldn't. He also promised to > kick the other guys in the pants to make them more responsive to the > dealers. I'll dig it out if your interested....(c; > > They were all posted to alt.binaries.sounds.78rpm-era over the years. > I've > got over 19M MP3 files of all kinds of music, OTR and stuff. ah, sounds like a hassle. maybe if you got a couple favorites repost them to that group. thx randy Article: 325338 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: NoahVale@webtv.net Subject: Wanted: Burroughs B-5750 Nixie tube Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 05:19:44 -0500 Message-ID: <2296-436C8740-821@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net> Either good used, or NOS Article: 325339 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: NoahVale@webtv.net Subject: Wanted: Manual for Huntron Tracker HTR 1005B-1S Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 05:24:17 -0500 Message-ID: <2296-436C8851-823@storefull-3118.bay.webtv.net> Either original or copy. Article: 325340 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Interesting recording Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 12:08:17 GMT Yes, I indeed would like it! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Larry" wrote in message news:Xns9705167743E5noone@63.223.7.253... > "xrongor" wrote in > news:dkh4pl$4iu1$1@news3.infoave.net: > >> i love listening to old advertising >> >> randy >> > > I've got quite a collection of old ads/promos in MP3 format, like Fred > Flintstone selling the kids Winston Cigarettes, for instance. Some are > classics, some not. > > I also have an MP3 of a 1925 Edison record to its music dealers with > Edison's son and all their department heads promising the dealers the > awful > 1925 record sales were going to get better. On the end of it, a very old > Thomas Edison comes on and says he was going to sing on the record but his > wife said he "sounded like a frog" so he wouldn't. He also promised to > kick the other guys in the pants to make them more responsive to the > dealers. I'll dig it out if your interested....(c; > > They were all posted to alt.binaries.sounds.78rpm-era over the years. > I've > got over 19M MP3 files of all kinds of music, OTR and stuff. > > > > -- > Larry Article: 325341 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130959023.112407.211320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Coincidence at the AK Corral? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 12:53:38 GMT "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com... > Were I conspiracy theorist, I would believe that "Grumpy" has an > interest in the Caig group of companies. He is certainly hypersensitive > in their behalf. That or paranoid. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA Right now he doesn't have much of a job...Maybe rigor mortis has set in on the server. Article: 325342 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1131146446.706195.232000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Comparing old prices/earnings to new? Message-ID: <1_1bf.1217$ZA3.280591@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 12:56:29 GMT ERR, I was under the impression it was a Suzuki. "Scott W. Harvey" wrote in message news:dkhh1o0qbs@news1.newsguy.com... > jim menning wrote: > > "frenchy" wrote in message > > news:1131146446.706195.232000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > >><< >>$9,995.00. > >>I just bought a brand new one September 30th for only $4,603.46 >>> > >> > >>How come you can get a 10K car for half price but I can barely get > >>dealers to quote me 5K off a $44,000 T-bird? What'd you do, hold > >>the > >>guy up? > >> > > > > > > Motivated dealer with too much stock on hand, not enough demand for > > this model, lots of local competition, factory and dealer incentives, > > last day of their summer promotion, last day of their financial > > quarter (both GM and the dealership), next years model already on the > > lot, GM card rebate bonus, employee price sale, $1,000 dealer fun > > money, $500 gas card. > > Keep in mind also that this is one of those cars built on the assembly > lines that GM bought from the bankrupt Daewoo for $0.05 on the dollar. > This has got to be one of the cheapest-to-manufacture cars in constant > dollars that GM has ever produced. > > BTW, I have noticed a spike of interest in these cars here in Northern > California. With gas prices hovering around $2.75 a gallon, these are > attractive because they get mileage somewhere close to a hybrid for > about 1/3 the price. There ain't a lot of subcompact cars being produced > by anyone anymore for the US market, so they are filling a void at the > right time. > > > > > Watching the results of these promotions, looks like GM shot > > themselves in the foot. Most everyone that wanted a GM vehicle bought > > one during the summer promotions. Now they are having a hard time > > selling anything. Sales are going downhill, as are their stock and > > bond ratings. > > > > Bankruptcy and a shareholder revolt, coming soon to a theatre near you. > GM has been so f@cked up for so long that the entrenched incompetence > makes the management of the major airlines look stellar by comparison. > > -Scott > > Article: 325343 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1131193520.918015.168340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Heathkit Kit Builder's guide Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:00:03 GMT That's pretty cool! "retroteckh" wrote in message news:1131193520.918015.168340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > I found this outside an old house, > somebody had thrown it away. > > http://retrotech.ca/Heathkit.shtm > Article: 325344 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: FA:a couple of great Silvertone Tombstones...not mine From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:00:24 GMT In article , moppat@comcast.NOSPAMnet says... > > >next up , not so fancy cabinet, but probably the best Silvertone tombstone >for performance... the seller quotes John Goller's recent RAR+P posting! > >http://cgi.ebay.com/1930s-SILVERTONE-RADIO-MODEL-1955-TOMBSTONE-NR_W0QQitemZ5 825332596QQcategoryZ50595QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > >Mark Oppat > > > > I like it better than the first one U pointed out Mark... something about the large gold dial that sort of overwhelms the tombstone cabinet.. and it isnt the radio that the 1955 is.... will be interesting to see what I get back from him.. just sent a question to seller.. told him I was the guy that he swiped the stuff from for his description... I could be interested as I sold the one I Had... Area any of the other newsgroup regulars going to bid on it?... If so.. let me know... don't want to go step on somes toes!... John k9uwa Article: 325345 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: Subject: Re: Interesting recording Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:04:11 GMT Maybe Larry could offer them on a CD for a nominal fee and distribute them >from a PO Box so nobody could spam his home box... "xrongor" wrote in message news:dkhnbt$4orm$1@news3.infoave.net... > > "Larry" wrote in message > news:Xns9705167743E5noone@63.223.7.253... > > "xrongor" wrote in > > news:dkh4pl$4iu1$1@news3.infoave.net: > > > >> i love listening to old advertising > >> > >> randy > >> > > > > I've got quite a collection of old ads/promos in MP3 format, like Fred > > Flintstone selling the kids Winston Cigarettes, for instance. Some are > > classics, some not. > > > > I also have an MP3 of a 1925 Edison record to its music dealers with > > Edison's son and all their department heads promising the dealers the > > awful > > 1925 record sales were going to get better. On the end of it, a very old > > Thomas Edison comes on and says he was going to sing on the record but his > > wife said he "sounded like a frog" so he wouldn't. He also promised to > > kick the other guys in the pants to make them more responsive to the > > dealers. I'll dig it out if your interested....(c; > > > > They were all posted to alt.binaries.sounds.78rpm-era over the years. > > I've > > got over 19M MP3 files of all kinds of music, OTR and stuff. > > ah, sounds like a hassle. maybe if you got a couple favorites repost them > to that group. > > thx > randy > > Article: 325346 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: Pay Pal Payments Ebay Guido Collector Type needed Springfield,MO From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131066553.524341.62230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <436c2bdd_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> <48383$436c4a91$4232bd2a$9737@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:10:01 GMT In article <48383$436c4a91$4232bd2a$9737@COQUI.NET>, exray@coqui.net says... > > >John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > >> >> Scary when I looked at a few facts.... also in the last 30 days the post >> office and UPS together haven't gotten $2575 from us... actually someone >> else of course paid those fees.... >> >> >> John k9uwa >> >Yipes, John. >But thats exactly what some smaller unsophisticated sellers look at when >they decide "I'm gonna quit accepting PayPal because it costs me xxx per >month and I could be sticking that money in my pocket". The reality is >that their sales prices tend to drop accordingly as they take measures >to shoo away buyers by insisting on such-n-such ONLY payments which >cause the buyer to reduce his bid amount. >I keep anticipating the day when the 'buying/selling on ebay' process >will mature but I suspect its never gonna happen. > >-Bill Same applies to the damned fools that state SELL TO USA ONLY... boy is that one stupid statement!...... I have writers cramps from filling out customs forms... but I also know I got a lot more money for all the stuff than I would have if I had said... USA only!... Interesting percentages... had 83 auctions ended within an hour on Sunday Nite.... and Jean was gone most of Monday... that didn't help the packing operation... On Wednesday morning we took 75 of those items to the PO and UPS ... all but 8 of them were paid and boxed and the stuff was outta here!.. then I could finally unload a Majestic 90 Console that had been in the back of the other Van for 2 weeks!... Jean spent a part of Monday at Alumalite (sp) Place in K-Zoo ... learning to make 2 piece molds... as in a couple of early Philco Escutcheons that no one is currently making. John k9uwa Article: 325347 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131066553.524341.62230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <436c2bdd_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> <48383$436c4a91$4232bd2a$9737@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: OT: Pay Pal Payments Ebay Guido Collector Type needed Springfield,MO Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:09:57 GMT I just don't SELL there, and I'm finding more things around here or elsewhere on the internet. "Bill" wrote in message news:48383$436c4a91$4232bd2a$9737@COQUI.NET... > John Goller, k9uwa wrote: > > > > > Scary when I looked at a few facts.... also in the last 30 days the post > > office and UPS together haven't gotten $2575 from us... actually someone > > else of course paid those fees.... > > > > > > John k9uwa > > > Yipes, John. > But thats exactly what some smaller unsophisticated sellers look at when > they decide "I'm gonna quit accepting PayPal because it costs me xxx per > month and I could be sticking that money in my pocket". The reality is > that their sales prices tend to drop accordingly as they take measures > to shoo away buyers by insisting on such-n-such ONLY payments which > cause the buyer to reduce his bid amount. > I keep anticipating the day when the 'buying/selling on ebay' process > will mature but I suspect its never gonna happen. > > -Bill Article: 325348 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <4362de09_5@newsfeed.slurp.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:12:44 GMT In article , noone@home.com says... > > >I find it amusing that guys on here that spend hours stuffing an old >capacitor can with modern caps hidden away inside to make it look original, >have no problem with wholesale replacement of perfectly good OEM selenium >rectifiers with modern diodes because they "all go bad." > >Larry Nope the purists.... they leave the Selenium in there and hide the diode behind it so you think radio is still running on it! John k9uwa Article: 325349 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: Subject: Re: Victor RE 57 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:16:07 GMT Go for it! "Nelson Gietz" wrote in message news:tVWaf.5234$lb7.60455@news1.mts.net... > Just saw one go down by the 'Bay for $911 USD tonight. > It had the mic, the weight for cutting records, and about 40 blanks, IIRC. > Does anyone know whether that's a carbon mic they used? > I have my eye on one for about 1/4 the price at a local antique shop, no > mic, and the cabinet has been painted white with gold highlights.(!) > Cheers, > Nelson > > Article: 325350 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <11mj0eg6r0iqg4e@corp.supernews.com> <1130989702.629288.50900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <11mo9oa9jrct5e@corp.supernews.com> Subject: Re: zenith conole Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:20:06 GMT Have you tried looking for Altec related cones? Better yet, Google up Great Plains Audio (or link from audioheritage.org even) and give them a call. "effi" wrote in message news:11mo9oa9jrct5e@corp.supernews.com... > "AuroraOldRadios" wrote in message > news:1130989702.629288.50900@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > What model are you talking about? If the original speaker has a field > > coil- aka electrodynamic speaker- then you must account for the field > > coil AND the voice coil. If the original speaker has a permanent > > magnet, then why not find a matching replacement? Maybe the old speaker > > can be repaired. Some of the folks here can do amazing things with > > "blown" speakers. > > the problem with rebuilding the original speaker is the cones are right > under 12" in diameter (12" speaker), wich is easu enough to replace, but the > depth is about 3 and 1/4", so replacement cones are basically nonexistent > (unless maybe you or someone here knows a source for cones that deep) > > it is a 9H885 console am/fm phonograph > speaker measures at 4 ohms and has # 49CZ624 on it > the schematic says it is a 4 ohm speaker > > Article: 325351 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Spokesman" References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <35ce1$43698f00$4232bd18$16187@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: OT: Pay Pal Payments on Ebay Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:29:49 GMT "Bill" wrote in message news:35ce1$43698f00$4232bd18$16187@COQUI.NET... > RadioGary wrote: > > > > > > I've been steadily waiting patiently for a seller to release a buy I > > made on Ebay. He said he accepted Pay Pal. One week later he EMAILs > > me back saying he's denied payment because it was attached to a credit > > card, and he only accepts Pay Pal payments. How in the heck can you > > pay into Pay Pal without useing a credit card? What's the difference? > > The guy could have accepted and had the money, correct? Can someone > > clear this up for me, please? > > There are two ways to pay with PayPal. You can pay from the funded > account you have with them or via a credit card. You are not required > to have money on deposit in their accounts, although its not a bad idea > since they're paying good interest and many sellers balk at the extra > fees they get stuck with for accepting credit cards. > > The third way is the dreaded e-check which is quickly becoming the bad > boy because of the time it takes to clear. > > If you are going to use PayPal for payments on a regular basis it makes > sense to deposit funds into your account. You'll earn interest, the > seller won't be stuck with fees, you won't be stuck with possible > interest on your own card account. > > He should have mentioned no CCs upfront. Many people won't accept them > via PayPal. Better brush up on you paypal rules. Paypal now requires all sellers offering paypal to accept any form of payment, including credit cards. The seller the OP is dealing with either does not know that or is a crook. > > -Bill Article: 325352 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <35ce1$43698f00$4232bd18$16187@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: OT: Pay Pal Payments on Ebay Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:36:43 GMT "Spokesman" wrote in message news:ht2bf.1224$ZA3.281126@monger.newsread.com... > Better brush up on you paypal rules. Paypal now requires all sellers > offering > paypal to accept any form of payment, including credit cards. > > The seller the OP is dealing with either does not know that > or is a crook. Crook is a favorite right now, running 3 to 1 on the books ;-0 Article: 325353 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1131193520.918015.168340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Heathkit Kit Builder's guide Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 13:54:53 GMT It would be even cooler if the stupid upgrades Adobe said to add didn't slow it to 1/2 mile per hour... "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message news:n12bf.1218$ZA3.280639@monger.newsread.com... > That's pretty cool! > > "retroteckh" wrote in message > news:1131193520.918015.168340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > I found this outside an old house, > > somebody had thrown it away. > > > > http://retrotech.ca/Heathkit.shtm > > > > Article: 325354 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1131193520.918015.168340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Heathkit Kit Builder's guide Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:13:39 GMT I've got it loading now for whatever reason...yes, it's a neat brochure : ) "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message news:NQ2bf.1226$ZA3.281289@monger.newsread.com... > It would be even cooler if the stupid upgrades Adobe said to add didn't slow > it to 1/2 mile per hour... > > "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message > news:n12bf.1218$ZA3.280639@monger.newsread.com... > > That's pretty cool! > > > > "retroteckh" wrote in message > > news:1131193520.918015.168340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > I found this outside an old house, > > > somebody had thrown it away. > > > > > > http://retrotech.ca/Heathkit.shtm > > > > > > > > > Article: 325355 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: PHILCO 90 IF FREQ, 175 or 260 From: Ron Ramirez References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:13:23 GMT Hi Ken Next time you run into this problem, look here: http://www.philcoradio.com/tech/90if.htm -- Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ and the new Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php Ken wrote in news:OnRaf.7160$CC.1416@dukeread09: > I have two 90's on the bench, sn 455027 and 498968,3 each with one 47 > output tube. On one data sheet, the paperwork I have says above sn > 237001, the if is 175kc. In the 'Complete Instructions for Adjusting all > Philco Rec', it says with one 47 output, the if is 260kc. I aligned one > to 175kc a few years ago, seemed to do ok. Tried to do the latest one at > 175, ckts peak but very broadly, can't get dial tracking right, reads > high on most stations, which means I can't get the osc high enough at > 175 kc if. But if I go to 260kc if, I'll need a still higher osc > frequency. Is my thinking screwed up on this??? Help! Ken Article: 325356 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1131193520.918015.168340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Heathkit Kit Builder's guide Thank You! Message-ID: <6b3bf.1231$ZA3.281577@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:18:42 GMT I'll be burning that for a permanent reference with my backup files. "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message news:NQ2bf.1226$ZA3.281289@monger.newsread.com... > It would be even cooler if the stupid upgrades Adobe said to add didn't slow > it to 1/2 mile per hour... > > "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message > news:n12bf.1218$ZA3.280639@monger.newsread.com... > > That's pretty cool! > > > > "retroteckh" wrote in message > > news:1131193520.918015.168340@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com... > > > I found this outside an old house, > > > somebody had thrown it away. > > > > > > http://retrotech.ca/Heathkit.shtm > > > > > > > > > Article: 325357 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1131159504.788514.285670@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: "My First Catalin" page updated again Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:37:41 GMT Terry, doesn't your set of pages have an entry and TOC? Going back one level only gives me that directory that always looks like I stumbled into somebodies' FTP files on an Apache server and it'd be nice to have a central navigation point. If I've missed it, I surely would love to know, as I enjoy your pages. wrote in message news:1131159504.788514.285670@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > I've added scans of the original RCA service literature for this radio > to my page. Also please see the scans of the original sales brochure I > added a few weeks ago. > > http://members.aol.com/tschw10118/myfirstcatalin.htm > > Enjoy! > > Thanks > > Terry. > Article: 325358 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> Subject: Nevermind, Terry... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 14:48:19 GMT I found it by going back to your email account and changing the url accordingly. Didn't stop to think you might have enough stuff for multiple accounts...perhaps time to open your own domain? -- Free, while supplies last Article: 325359 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: PHILCO 90 IF FREQ, 175 or 260 References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 10:12:58 -0500 Thank you Ron. Ken Ron Ramirez wrote: > Hi Ken > > Next time you run into this problem, look here: > > http://www.philcoradio.com/tech/90if.htm > -- > Ron Ramirez - Evansville, Indiana > Visit PhilcoRadio.com at http://www.philcoradio.com/ > and the new Philco Phorum at http://philcoradio.com/phpBB2/index.php > > Ken wrote in news:OnRaf.7160$CC.1416@dukeread09: > > >>I have two 90's on the bench, sn 455027 and 498968,3 each with one 47 >>output tube. On one data sheet, the paperwork I have says above sn >>237001, the if is 175kc. In the 'Complete Instructions for Adjusting all >>Philco Rec', it says with one 47 output, the if is 260kc. I aligned one >>to 175kc a few years ago, seemed to do ok. Tried to do the latest one at >>175, ckts peak but very broadly, can't get dial tracking right, reads >>high on most stations, which means I can't get the osc high enough at >>175 kc if. But if I go to 260kc if, I'll need a still higher osc >>frequency. Is my thinking screwed up on this??? Help! Ken Article: 325360 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1131146446.706195.232000@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1_1bf.1217$ZA3.280591@monger.newsread.com> Subject: Re: Comparing old prices/earnings to new? Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 15:22:59 GMT The Mitsubishi Precis sold here was marketed under at least nine brands, the most notable being the Hyundai Excel as it helped Hyundai gain a footfold in the US market and eventually they bought Kia Motors. "jim menning" wrote in message news:eN3bf.14247$8K4.10777@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> wrote in message > news:1_1bf.1217$ZA3.280591@monger.newsread.com... > > > > ERR, I was under the impression it was a Suzuki. > > > > Correct, to a degree. GM and Suzuki partnered in the purchase of the > Daewoo facilities. So the car can be bought under the Chevy Aveo or > the Suzuki Swift names in the US, other names elsewhere. But it is > clearly a Daewoo model that has been around for several years. > > jim menning > > Article: 325361 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 08:40:43 -0700 Message-ID: <23142-436CD27B-597@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <43641f19_2@newsfeed.slurp.net> Ron i have several devices around here with selenium rectifiers including 3 jukeboxes & radios and have had many others and never a problem with the those rectifiers . Article: 325362 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: RCA 1-TP-2J transistor radio Ques. Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 09:00:41 -0700 Message-ID: <23142-436CD729-606@storefull-3258.bay.webtv.net> References: <1131175784.555375.60870@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I would turn the radio on and measure across that cap with a volt meter to find the + lead then try a 1mfd or a .5 or .3 if you have them . I`m sure its not that critical and wonder if that was put here by someone who didnt have the right part on hand . Article: 325363 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 12:27:23 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: OT: Pay Pal Payments on Ebay References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <35ce1$43698f00$4232bd18$16187@COQUI.NET> Message-ID: Spokesman wrote: > > Better brush up on you paypal rules. Paypal now requires all sellers > offering > paypal to accept any form of payment, including credit cards. > > The seller the OP is dealing with either does not know that > or is a crook. > Rules as of 11/04.... Receiving Payments 1. Receipt of Credit Card Funded Payments. The ability to receive credit card funded payments is reserved for Premier and Business accounts. Personal Accounts that receive credit card funded payments may accept the payment by upgrading to a Premier or Business account, or they will have to deny the payment. Personal accounts may receive non-credit card funded payments for free. Once upgraded, Premier and Business Accounts may receive unlimited credit card funded payments. Payments funded wholly or partially by a credit card are classified as credit card payments in the PayPal system. 4. Right of Recipient to Refuse Payment. When you send a payment to a third party through PayPal, the recipient is not required to accept the payment, even if the recipient is already registered with PayPal. The recipient is free to return payments or, in some cases, to use the PayPal system to deny payments that you have sent. You acknowledge that PayPal will not be liable for any damages resulting from a recipient's decision not to accept a payment made through PayPal. Any payments through PayPal that are denied or unclaimed by a recipient will be returned to the sender on the earlier of (a) the date of such denial, or (b) within 30 days from the date the payment is sent. -Bill Article: 325364 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Interesting recording From: Larry References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 11:52:35 -0500 "Gary Tayman" wrote in news:Rg1bf.92$Id6.37@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net: > Yes, I indeed would like it! > > Wellllll.....I thought I had a vague idea what area it was stored in...but.... I've been through 42 spindles of CDRs and haven't come across it, yet. Lunch time!.....I'll look more later....sorry -- Larry Article: 325365 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier From: Larry References: <4362de09_5@newsfeed.slurp.net> Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 11:54:11 -0500 k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) wrote in news:gd2bf.522654$_o.44742@attbi_s71: > Nope the purists.... they leave the Selenium in there and hide the diode > behind it so you think radio is still running on it! > John k9uwa > > Yeah, but that's cheating! It's no fun riding in a steam engine with a diesel hidden away under the coal car, either. You gotta live DANGEROUSLY! -- Larry Article: 325366 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" Subject: Ronnie Milsap collects radios Message-ID: <3G5bf.9328$7s1.5411@fe04.lga> Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 11:08:15 -0600 http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ronniemilsap.com/images/0600radiocoll.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.ronniemilsap.com/facts.html&h=362&w=360&sz=88&tbnid=h1pqcLebKJEJ:&tbnh=117&tbnw=116&hl=en&start=38&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522radio%2BCollection%2522%26start%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN%26as_qdr%3Dall -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 325367 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: ESDI-80 Subject: Re: Need Schematic References: Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 12:16:25 -0500 Saul Rabinowitz wrote: > ESDI-80 wrote: > >> Saul, >> >> That stinks, I was hoping to get a schematic for it. > > > Unfortunate. We do hit secrecy among manufacturers now and then. It's > been more common in audiophile products, IMO. Being able to get repair > data is important for me when buying -- that is, when I remember to ask. > But in these days of throw-away products, repair may be just too > difficult even with the information due to obstructed access, tenacious > glue instead of screws, etc. > > > How does it sound? What kind of load are you putting on it? I know that > these questions may seem irritating, but sometimes the obvious eludes > us. If the load is 4 ohms and the speakers inefficient, it'll run harder. > Right now as a test I am using 10 ohm Delco 6x9s that I had laying around. But when I used to use the receiver normally I had large floor speakers with 12" woofers hooked up to it had no problem drving them. And when I say good bass responce I was meaning shake the entire house bass responce. :-) > > How do you know this spec? Do you have the owner's manual? If the power > supply is ample enough and you're running into a 4 ohm load, an > amplifier stage will typically put out quite a bit more than it's rated > power into the standard 8 ohm load. > I know the spec because the WPC is used in the model name. So being a Concept 5.5, it is rated at 55 WPC. I was able to find this out when browsing around eBay one day. There was a seller selling a Concept 6.5 (which I also have) and he had very detailed info on it. I also saw someone selling a Concept 16.5 too. > > Pacific Stereo could really hustle customers on the sales side, but > there were other stores that were far worse. These companies can be > surprising. For example, most of us don't seem to think very highly of > Radio Shack, yet my experience is that every once in awhile, they come > out with a real winner, and/or a truly useful unique product that fills > a real need that's overlooked by everyone else. I'm surprised at those > times, but I have to admit that they do exist. > Here is a snippet for a store on eBay for a Concept 7.5D CONCEPT was a manufacturer of high end audio components that was porprietary gear that was sold by Pacific stereo in the 1970’s & early 1980’s. I use to sell these receivers in 1980. They were the top of the line as far as I was concerned. I’m a big Marantz guy, but these were and still are some of the best sounding receivers that were built at the time. I really love the quality that goes into concept stereo's. I now have a Concept 16.5 for my JBL 4343's. Each CONCEPT is sleek and built to last. The CONCEPT stereos were individually bench tested by hand in the CONCEPT laboratories to ensure the highest quality. From the custom developed power transformers to the 6mm aluminum extrusion casing the CONCEPT stereo's are one of the finest moments in audio and are becoming a strong collectable as more and more collectors are acquiring them. This CONCEPT 7.5D is in near mint to Mint Condition. This stereo looks and sounds gorgeous. Do not miss your chance to own a true classic. The rear of the unit is dressed with appointments reserved for only the highest quality manufacturers. You will find connections on the back for main in, pre out, phono, aux, tape, 1 & 2 along with terminals for 3 pairs of speakers. This amplifier is rated at a robust 75 watts per channel Continuous power output of 75 watts per channel minimum RMS 20-20,000 Hz both channels driven into 8 ohms with no more than 0.1% total harmonic distortion (13.98 dBW) The Digital LED is for the analog tuner -- In fact, many vintage receiver collectors regard CONCEPT stereos as some of the best ever made by anyone. The circuitry was designed by Dick Schram, who went on to be a key figure with Parasound. http://cgi.ebay.com/Concept-7-5-7-5D-Digital-Read-Out-Receiver_W0QQitemZ5805594440QQcategoryZ50596QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem The power supply on both my 5.5 and 6.5 models say "Laboratory-accurate stereo receiver. Developed for precise definition. Separately bench-tested for integrity of design." These also have a 4-way tone control comprising of Bass, Mid-Bass, Treble, and Mid-Treble. > > Yup. We do, in fact, discuss products outside the stated range here from > time-to-time (we've been round and round on washing machines!). A few of > the participants can get grouchy about this, but most of us are friendly > about OT products. After all, they're electronic, and we have electronic > knowledge and interest, and being human in the year 2005, we are > consumers of what's made today, too. > I really appreciate the help!. :-) I will keep you posted on project. I am seeing iprovements as I replace caps. I am currently waiting for some more to arive. and I have tons more I need to order. I am hitting the main parts first. Power-supply, Main-Amps, Pre-amps, then the rest. Article: 325368 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <35ce1$43698f00$4232bd18$16187@COQUI.NET> Subject: Re: OT: Pay Pal Payments on Ebay Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 17:26:06 GMT "Spokesman" wrote in message news:ht2bf.1224$ZA3.281126@monger.newsread.com... > > > Paypal now requires all sellers offering > paypal to accept any form of payment, including credit cards. > I believe that should be "eBay requires all eBay sellers offering PayPal..." I think you can still refuse credit card funded PayPal payments for transactions outside of eBay. http://www2.ebay.com/aw/core/200507.shtml#2005-07-15101846 jim menning Article: 325369 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <3G5bf.9328$7s1.5411@fe04.lga> Subject: Re: Ronnie Milsap collects radios Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 17:36:46 GMT I was glad to see the whole site ! "Brian Hill" wrote in message news:3G5bf.9328$7s1.5411@fe04.lga... > http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ronniemilsap.com/images/0600radiocoll.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.ronniemilsap.com/facts.html&h=362&w=360&sz=88&tbnid=h1pqcLebKJEJ:&tbnh=117&tbnw=116&hl=en&start=38&prev=/images%3Fq%3D%2522radio%2BCollection%2522%26start%3D20%26svnum%3D10%26hl%3Den%26lr%3D%26sa%3DN%26as_qdr%3Dall > > > -- > > Regards > B.H. > > Brian's Basement > http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm > > Brian's Radio Universe > http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm > > Article: 325370 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: Subject: Re: Need Schematic Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 17:40:00 GMT Crikey, if I had crap that nice I wouldn't sell it, yah know ;-) "ESDI-80" wrote in message news:HN5bf.20502$IB.9216@dukeread11... > Saul Rabinowitz wrote: > > ESDI-80 wrote: > > > >> Saul, > >> > >> That stinks, I was hoping to get a schematic for it. > > > > > > Unfortunate. We do hit secrecy among manufacturers now and then. It's > > been more common in audiophile products, IMO. Being able to get repair > > data is important for me when buying -- that is, when I remember to ask. > > But in these days of throw-away products, repair may be just too > > difficult even with the information due to obstructed access, tenacious > > glue instead of screws, etc. > > > > > > > How does it sound? What kind of load are you putting on it? I know that > > these questions may seem irritating, but sometimes the obvious eludes > > us. If the load is 4 ohms and the speakers inefficient, it'll run harder. > > > > Right now as a test I am using 10 ohm Delco 6x9s that I had laying > around. But when I used to use the receiver normally I had large floor > speakers with 12" woofers hooked up to it had no problem drving them. > And when I say good bass responce I was meaning shake the entire house > bass responce. :-) > > > > > How do you know this spec? Do you have the owner's manual? If the power > > supply is ample enough and you're running into a 4 ohm load, an > > amplifier stage will typically put out quite a bit more than it's rated > > power into the standard 8 ohm load. > > > > I know the spec because the WPC is used in the model name. So being a > Concept 5.5, it is rated at 55 WPC. I was able to find this out when > browsing around eBay one day. There was a seller selling a Concept 6.5 > (which I also have) and he had very detailed info on it. I also saw > someone selling a Concept 16.5 too. > > > > > Pacific Stereo could really hustle customers on the sales side, but > > there were other stores that were far worse. These companies can be > > surprising. For example, most of us don't seem to think very highly of > > Radio Shack, yet my experience is that every once in awhile, they come > > out with a real winner, and/or a truly useful unique product that fills > > a real need that's overlooked by everyone else. I'm surprised at those > > times, but I have to admit that they do exist. > > > > Here is a snippet for a store on eBay for a Concept 7.5D > > CONCEPT was a manufacturer of high end audio components that was > porprietary gear that was sold by Pacific stereo in the 1970’s & early > 1980’s. I use to sell these receivers in 1980. They were the top of the > line as far as I was concerned. I’m a big Marantz guy, but these were > and still are some of the best sounding receivers that were built at the > time. I really love the quality that goes into concept stereo's. I now > have a Concept 16.5 for my JBL 4343's. Each CONCEPT is sleek and built > to last. The CONCEPT stereos were individually bench tested by hand in > the CONCEPT laboratories to ensure the highest quality. From the custom > developed power transformers to the 6mm aluminum extrusion casing the > CONCEPT stereo's are one of the finest moments in audio and are becoming > a strong collectable as more and more collectors are acquiring them. > This CONCEPT 7.5D is in near mint to Mint Condition. This stereo looks > and sounds gorgeous. Do not miss your chance to own a true classic. The > rear of the unit is dressed with appointments reserved for only the > highest quality manufacturers. You will find connections on the back for > main in, pre out, phono, aux, tape, 1 & 2 along with terminals for 3 > pairs of speakers. This amplifier is rated at a robust 75 watts per > channel Continuous power output of 75 watts per channel minimum RMS > 20-20,000 Hz both channels driven into 8 ohms with no more than 0.1% > total harmonic distortion (13.98 dBW) The Digital LED is for the analog > tuner -- In fact, many vintage receiver collectors regard CONCEPT > stereos as some of the best ever made by anyone. The circuitry was > designed by Dick Schram, who went on to be a key figure with Parasound. > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Concept-7-5-7-5D-Digital-Read-Out-Receiver_W0QQitemZ5805594440QQcategoryZ50596QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > The power supply on both my 5.5 and 6.5 models say "Laboratory-accurate > stereo receiver. Developed for precise definition. Separately > bench-tested for integrity of design." > > These also have a 4-way tone control comprising of Bass, Mid-Bass, > Treble, and Mid-Treble. > > > > > Yup. We do, in fact, discuss products outside the stated range here from > > time-to-time (we've been round and round on washing machines!). A few of > > the participants can get grouchy about this, but most of us are friendly > > about OT products. After all, they're electronic, and we have electronic > > knowledge and interest, and being human in the year 2005, we are > > consumers of what's made today, too. > > > > I really appreciate the help!. :-) I will keep you posted on project. > I am seeing iprovements as I replace caps. I am currently waiting for > some more to arive. and I have tons more I need to order. I am hitting > the main parts first. Power-supply, Main-Amps, Pre-amps, then the rest. Article: 325371 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) Subject: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. Date: 5 Nov 2005 19:02:04 GMT Message-ID: Over the past few weeks, I have seen postings requesting schematics for variable tube supplies. I finally took a few minutes to scan in a couple from the GE Essential Characteristics Book from 1969, and to convert a hand-drawn schematic to .pdf. I doubt that these schematics are definitive, but I built two of them and they work on my bench. The GE 1-compactron supply also exists as a totally solid-state version as a dedicated BC-312 supply (MosFet as pass element and a MPSA42 as the gain stage). I put the schematics, along with a brief explanation, up on: http://novatech-instr.com/Fun/ge_ps.pdf I am pretty sure the last schematic violates the specs for a 12GB3, but it seems to be working. Comments are welcomed. Steve. -- Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Article: 325372 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Pete_O" Subject: Tube Designations- great site defines them Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:21:38 +0100 Message-ID: <8ce442a0f5505964814e3b7c922b8751@localhost.talkaboutcollecting.com> While surfing I came across this site: http://www.duncanamps.com/technical/tubenumber.html It gives lots of insight on what to some is a lot of uncoordinated tube numbering. It's worth printing and saving in your Tube Manual. -Pete O. AI2V Article: 325373 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <4362de09_5@newsfeed.slurp.net> Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier Message-ID: <8C8bf.1268$ZA3.283902@monger.newsread.com> Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 20:28:52 GMT "Cmdr Buzz Corey" wrote in message news:jf2dnajIZvuGj_DeRVn-ug@gbronline.com... > Larry wrote: > > lherault@bu.edu wrote in news:4362de09_5@newsfeed.slurp.net: > > > > > >>How can one tell if it is OK? > > > > > > It conducts slightly, but not much, better in one direction than the > > other....(c; > > > > If it doesn't stink when you light it off, it's probably fine. The cap's > > dried out and makes it hummmmmm. > > > > I find it amusing that guys on here that spend hours stuffing an old > > capacitor can with modern caps hidden away inside to make it look original, > > have no problem with wholesale replacement of perfectly good OEM selenium > > rectifiers with modern diodes because they "all go bad." > > So where do you find a 'perfectly good OEM selenium"? Ipso facto, if it hasn't failed... Article: 325374 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: DIAL COVERS, GLASS AND PLASTIC. Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 15:08:24 -0600 Message-ID: <6487-436D1F48-584@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> PLEASE BE AWARE THAT I NO LONGER FURNISH THE ABOVE MENTIONED ITEMS DUE TO THE FACT THAT MY LEFT SIDE WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO HANDLE THE MATERIAL. MY SON NOW HANDLES ALL DIAL COVERS. HIS ADDRESS IS INCLUDED IN MY WEBSITE. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 325375 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: DIAL COVERS, GLASS AND PLASTIC. Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 14:41:32 -0700 Message-ID: References: <6487-436D1F48-584@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> hope you are doing well bill. glad to see you've passed it on to your son. randy "Bill Turner" wrote in message news:6487-436D1F48-584@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... > PLEASE BE AWARE THAT I NO LONGER FURNISH THE ABOVE MENTIONED ITEMS DUE > TO THE FACT THAT MY LEFT SIDE WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO HANDLE THE MATERIAL. > MY SON NOW HANDLES ALL DIAL COVERS. HIS ADDRESS IS INCLUDED IN MY > WEBSITE. > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 325376 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: OT: Pay Pal Payments Ebay Guido Collector Type needed Springfield,MO Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 14:47:02 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131066553.524341.62230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <436c2bdd_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> >> I >>just play the game and try to stay out of trouble. >> >>-Bill > > yup at 50 bucks years ago they forced us to become "Premier Members" > > Today I be one of those.... in fact we have paid paypal more than 500 > bucks > over the last month in fees... > > Scary when I looked at a few facts.... also in the last 30 days the post > office and UPS together haven't gotten $2575 from us... actually someone > else of course paid those fees.... well they did and they didnt.... had shipping been less, they might have paid 'more' for the item. total cost would have been the same... i realize there is some play here, but if shipping costs were 0, i think you would agree that you would very probably have more money in your pocket. randy Article: 325377 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "west" References: Subject: Re: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 21:38:35 GMT "Steven Swift" wrote in message news:dkivjc$83n$1@eskinews.eskimo.com... > Over the past few weeks, I have seen postings requesting schematics for > variable tube supplies. I finally took a few minutes to scan in a > couple from the GE Essential Characteristics Book from 1969, and > to convert a hand-drawn schematic to .pdf. > > I doubt that these schematics are definitive, but I built two of them > and they work on my bench. The GE 1-compactron supply also exists as a > totally solid-state version as a dedicated BC-312 supply (MosFet as > pass element and a MPSA42 as the gain stage). > > I put the schematics, along with a brief explanation, up on: > > http://novatech-instr.com/Fun/ge_ps.pdf > > I am pretty sure the last schematic violates the specs for a 12GB3, but > it seems to be working. > > Comments are welcomed. > > Steve. > > -- > Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com > NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 > 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Hello Steve, Thanks for the interesting PS links. I'm not sure of their HT current capabilities. I've been wanting to make a good bench HT, Fil, & Bias supply, for a while now. I have a few ham radio PS that don't quite make it.. The major drawback is that the Xfrs are only capable of 100ma. At times I could use a little more that 400ma. Hopefully, someone reading this thread will come up with a viable suggestion. Cordially, west From adouglasatgis.net Sat Nov 5 23:53:23 EST 2005 Article: 325378 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Alan Douglas Newsgroups: rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Interesting recording Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 16:53:57 -0500 Organization: http://newsguy.com Lines: 7 Message-ID: References: <6YMaf.709$ip6.624@trnddc07> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-641.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.92/16.572 Path: news1.isis.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.news.ucla.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!pln-w!spln!lex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 Xref: news1.isis.unc.edu rec.antiques.radio+phono:325378 Hi, As I understand, besides the fidelity issue, the shaving from the cutter head would foul it unless it was pushed to the center of the disk. That meant cutting from the inside out. That wouldn't apply to a pressed record of course. Alan Article: 325379 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1131226163.647284.69040@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Nevermind, Terry... Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 22:20:09 GMT If "u" can program "C" you are better at it than "I" er me :-) wrote in message news:1131226163.647284.69040@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Yeah, Sorry Steven. I filled up my first AOL screen name's space and am > well into another. I always try to remember to put a link at the bottom > of each page back to the home page. > > I could do the domain thing -- just hate the thought of having to move > everything and set it all up again. I'm a lousy web programmer. And > only a marginal "C" programmer as well. > > Terry. > Article: 325380 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) Subject: Re: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. Date: 5 Nov 2005 22:28:38 GMT Message-ID: References: "west" writes: >Hello Steve, >Thanks for the interesting PS links. I'm not sure of their HT current >capabilities. I've been wanting to make a good bench HT, Fil, & Bias supply, >for a while now. I have a few ham radio PS that don't quite make it.. The >major drawback is that the Xfrs are only capable of 100ma. At times I could >use a little more that 400ma. Hopefully, someone reading this thread will >come up with a viable suggestion. >Cordially, >west The best high current PS I have seen uses the same topology as the GE 1-compactron one but uses several 6080 (6AS7) in parallel. I have an old transformer I am saving for that kind of thing that puts out 650Vct at 850mA. I have a TV transformer that is 550 at 250mA, but it is being saved also. That's alot of iron. The basic block will work for any load, just get enough current handling. Good luck. Steve. -- Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Article: 325381 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "barry jones" Subject: Re: DIAL COVERS, GLASS AND PLASTIC. Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 22:45:50 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <6487-436D1F48-584@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> welcome back bill ! i,ve missed you! regards barry mw1fdu "Bill Turner" wrote in message news:6487-436D1F48-584@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... > PLEASE BE AWARE THAT I NO LONGER FURNISH THE ABOVE MENTIONED ITEMS DUE > TO THE FACT THAT MY LEFT SIDE WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO HANDLE THE MATERIAL. > MY SON NOW HANDLES ALL DIAL COVERS. HIS ADDRESS IS INCLUDED IN MY > WEBSITE. > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. > > > > Article: 325382 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) Subject: Re: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. Date: 5 Nov 2005 23:21:31 GMT Message-ID: References: "west" writes: >Hello Steve, >Thanks for the interesting PS links. I'm not sure of their HT current >capabilities. I've been wanting to make a good bench HT, Fil, & Bias supply, >for a while now. I have a few ham radio PS that don't quite make it.. The >major drawback is that the Xfrs are only capable of 100ma. At times I could >use a little more that 400ma. Hopefully, someone reading this thread will >come up with a viable suggestion. >Cordially, >west If you are willing to use transistors in your variable supply, along with a fan and a big heatsink, it is quite easy to get 400mA up to about 350V. For example, Hammond makes the 378CX, which is rated for 465mA of DC. You then use mosfets, which can easily handle the current if you keep them cool. The B+ part of this schematic, http://novatech-instr.com/PDF_files/ps_ss.pdf, for example, is an exact copy of the GE 1-compactron PS, but done with solid-state parts. Obviously, a lot of scaling needs to be done (MPSA42 is only good to 300V). This particular one was done for 90v. If you design it to cover 50-350 at 400mA, then you are going to burn 120watts worst case. That will require a fan, big heatsink and several paralleled Fets, but it will work just fine. I wasn't interested in spending that much on parts. Steve -- Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Article: 325383 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Paul P" References: <6487-436D1F48-584@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: DIAL COVERS, GLASS AND PLASTIC. Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 23:27:02 GMT Welcome back Bill. Paul. Article: 325384 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <6487-436D1F48-584@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: DIAL COVERS, GLASS AND PLASTIC. Message-ID: Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 23:38:08 GMT Thank you for the note the other day, Bill. I will do my best to provide him with accurate measurements for the clock dial. PS Group: I not only found the dial for my Sansui but I could win and likewise also buy/barter for components, switches etc. "Bill Turner" wrote in message news:6487-436D1F48-584@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... > PLEASE BE AWARE THAT I NO LONGER FURNISH THE ABOVE MENTIONED ITEMS DUE > TO THE FACT THAT MY LEFT SIDE WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO HANDLE THE MATERIAL. > MY SON NOW HANDLES ALL DIAL COVERS. HIS ADDRESS IS INCLUDED IN MY > WEBSITE. > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. > > > > Article: 325385 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: Selenium Rectifier Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 18:40:35 -0500 Message-ID: <11mqgnj4cju3l69@corp.supernews.com> References: <4362de09_5@newsfeed.slurp.net> Larry wrote: > > > I find it amusing that guys on here that spend hours stuffing an old > capacitor can with modern caps hidden away inside to make it look original, > have no problem with wholesale replacement of perfectly good OEM selenium > rectifiers with modern diodes because they "all go bad." I think you have a poor line of logic there. If we put NOS paper caps or 'lytics in the old can your comment would make sense. But while the restuffed paper or can caps are then new inside, the OEM selenium is still old inside. And since all the old caps are bad, we replace them, if restuffing isn't practical, we replace them anyway. And like John G. says, the old selenium is generally left in place with the tiny diode behind it. I lied, though, when I said I never fired one up. I didn't myself, but my first gift radio had one in it. Years later my brother says he still can't quite get the smell out of the pantry area where it melted down. John H. Article: 325386 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: chris+news@suslowicz.org (Chris Suslowicz) Subject: Re: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. Date: Sat, 05 Nov 2005 23:48:02 +0000 Message-ID: References: In article , novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) wrote: >The best high current PS I have seen uses the same topology as the GE >1-compactron one but uses several 6080 (6AS7) in parallel. 6080s are good for this. I used to have a regulated supply from an old Ampex VR-1000 (2" reel-to-reel VTR) that delivered 250V at 6.5A. > I have an >old transformer I am saving for that kind of thing that puts out >650Vct at 850mA. I have a TV transformer that is 550 at 250mA, but it is >being saved also. That's alot of iron. At the end of the day, the transformer is goung to be the biggest (and certainly the heaviest and most expensive) single component. Quality does not come cheap. Chris. Article: 325387 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Mike Schultz" References: <1131216775.096423.311870@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Fada Bullet Cabinet repair Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 00:36:41 GMT Here is the website of one person who does Catalin repair: http://www.halcyon.com/smiles/repairs.html I have never dealt with him, so I can't specifically recommend his work. The pictures do show what can be done. Whether it is worth it depends on how much you paid for the radio and how much he would charge to do the repair. No matter how good the job, it will always be a repaired radio and will be always be worth significantly less than one that was never cracked. It will certainly look better, though, and maroon Catalin is an easier fix because of the even color. Excellent reproduction backs are available for $18 from http://www.catalinradio.com -- Mike Schultz "JC" wrote in message news:1131216775.096423.311870@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... >I just got my first catalin radio after many years of collecting. It > has a bad crack on the bottom. I was wondering who does crack repairs > and if it would be worth it on this radio. I think it probalby would be > since its not on the front or top. It will also need a new back and > perhaps a lense. > > http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/jacksonc/fada1.jpg > http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/jacksonc/fada2.jpg > http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y145/jacksonc/fada3.jpg > Article: 325388 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Frank Dresser" References: Subject: Re: Looking for x-tals: 740, 1240 or 1250 khz Message-ID: <%Dcbf.25471$qk4.20989@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 01:03:55 GMT "Stephanie Weil" wrote in message news:slrndmdnfn.n93.stephanie@home3.gordsven.com... > Hi folks. > > I'm looking for a crystal for either 740, 1240 or 1250 khz. It's for a small AM transmitter. > > Would anyone have one they could sell or know someplace I could order just one? > > I tried ordering one from Bomar, but you can only order lots from them. > > Thanks guys! > > > -- > Stephanie Weil > New York City, U.S.A. A common 5 Mhz crystal, divided by four, will work for 1250 kHz. Frank Dresser Article: 325389 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Fada Bullet Cabinet repair From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1131216775.096423.311870@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Message-ID: <8Wcbf.305615$084.283580@attbi_s22> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 01:23:16 GMT In article , mls2004@SPAMSPAMSPAMverizon.net says... > > > Here is the website of one person who does Catalin repair: > >http://www.halcyon.com/smiles/repairs.html > >I have never dealt with him, so I can't specifically recommend his work. >The pictures do show what can be done. > thats Paul Pontrello ... west coast... very nice guy and yes he does nice work... I Have a radio that Paul repaired.. I would have to find the paperwork that came with the radio to show you the repair on it as I can't find it.. the only other guy I would consider for Catalin repair is Dan Blake the ORIGINAL from outsider studio .... Definitely NOT CatalinRadio.com Steve Turner.. John k9uwa Article: 325390 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: Pay Pal Payments Ebay Guido Collector Type needed Springfield,MO From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131066553.524341.62230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <436c2bdd_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 01:30:59 GMT In article , hacky@smackeycrackey.com says... > > >well they did and they didnt.... had shipping been less, they might have >paid 'more' for the item. total cost would have been the same... i realize >there is some play here, but if shipping costs were 0, i think you would >agree that you would very probably have more money in your pocket. > >randy > > Doubt it Randy... I only charge for shipping the exact amount needed to pay for it.. no hidden handling fees.. and we always look for the cheapest way to ship stuff... its just that when U start shipping anything overseas it gets expensive very quickly... try 44 pounds slow boat 4 to 6 weeks surface mail to Spain and see what it costs... don't make that thing weigh 45 pounds.. all of a sudden your 4 to 6 weeks surface parcel post... it isnt offered now it air parcel post only!... we managed to hold the box to 43 pounds for the guy... a large rotor and two control boxes.. how about a 44 pound signal generator... vhf unit... to Korea... 72 bucks plus a couple bucks for the insurance... John k9uwa Article: 325391 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: novatech@eskimo.com (Steven Swift) Subject: Re: Variable Regulated Tube Power Supplies. Date: 6 Nov 2005 02:52:35 GMT Message-ID: References: <1131235159.827667.48820@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> "Bret Ludwig" writes: > For a single secondary transformer of considerable size it's often >cheaper to have the local transformer winder to do one as a one-off. I >have had transformers in the 1500 VA class wound for me cheaper than >Peter Dahl listed them as shelf stock. Winding your own is also >possible. > Many surplus sources exist if you scrounge around as well. For many years, I worked at John Fluke Mfg. which had a transformer prototype model shop. For the 20 years I worked there, I never store bought a transformer, instead using the prototype shop after hours. At Novatech, I can wind small devices, but not the big iron stuff. Steve. -- Steven D. Swift, novatech@eskimo.com, http://www.novatech-instr.com NOVATECH INSTRUMENTS, INC. P.O. Box 55997 206.301.8986, fax 206.363.4367 Seattle, Washington 98155 USA Article: 325392 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steve P." Subject: Regency TR-6 Date: Sat, 5 Nov 2005 21:21:10 -0600 Message-ID: <11mqtlabahptl41@corp.supernews.com> Hi all, Came across a Regency TR-6 tan leather portable for a few bucks earlier today. I know the TR-1 is fairly collectible... how about the TR-6? Looks like a fairly early transistor portable. Thanks, Steve P. kawninja@nospam.cableone.net Article: 325393 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> Subject: RE: My previous request for pickup in Miami--2 daze left, no bids Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 03:23:59 GMT The possibility is there that I could win this for a total of $10.61!!! This includes a money order and stamp! There very well could be a Philco 38-12 only needing lacquer, or perhaps a Sansui SAX-200 tubed stereo (c.1964, WITH AN EYE) coming your way for the trouble? *You fix any drifting in the Philco but both last time I checked this summer were working well, and I will check again of course. Then we can discuss shipping back here after you strip the cabinets. 12" woofer, ~3.5 inch round tweeter and if you buy more Altec 2-way networks a small horn tweeters should fit in the old port so you can port the old tweeter hole. Point is this could be the world's cheapest restoration of one of the rarer Altec Lansing products, and I would be left needing only to recone or repair one woofer... Think about it...it could go loopy on me but if it didn't...I wanted to repair my pair but never dreamed how, maybe I can have it for Christmas? You will be compensated quite fairly, I assure you and by December 3rd. 10kc aaaaat ess arr vee net dom c o m -- Free, while supplies last Article: 325394 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "jim menning" References: <1130959023.112407.211320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Coincidence at the AK Corral? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 04:11:54 GMT wrote in message news:1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > The worst part about this is that there must certainly be many > people > who became acquainted on Audiokarma and who chatted to each other > exclusively on audiokarma about their own projects and many other > things as well.. Now they have been cut off from each other, many > in > mid sentence. The site has been down for one week and counting. > The > users haven't received as much as an email to give a heads up on > what > progress, if any, has been made to restore the site. > Try this: http://66.221.175.84/forums/index.php?s=9187e278ca85cbff9490f59fce946dd8 Article: 325395 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Omer Suleimanagich" References: <6487-436D1F48-584@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: DIAL COVERS, GLASS AND PLASTIC. Message-ID: <%wfbf.5490$m81.2984@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 04:21:15 GMT BILL, YOU'RE ONE CLASS ACT!!! I HOPE THAT YOU ARE DOING WELL AND WELCOME BACK TO THE NEWSGROUP! Omer "Bill Turner" wrote in message news:6487-436D1F48-584@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... > PLEASE BE AWARE THAT I NO LONGER FURNISH THE ABOVE MENTIONED ITEMS DUE > TO THE FACT THAT MY LEFT SIDE WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO HANDLE THE MATERIAL. > MY SON NOW HANDLES ALL DIAL COVERS. HIS ADDRESS IS INCLUDED IN MY > WEBSITE. > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. > > > > Article: 325396 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1130959023.112407.211320@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130968518.395151.60650@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131042854.139649.234680@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131051537.299182.294510@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1131152429.412061.310370@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1131152776.564304.31230@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Coincidence at the AK Corral? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 04:36:50 GMT I see they pruned about 5500 registrants (I seem to be a goner) and it's just joke threads...good luck "jim menning" wrote in message news:eofbf.19208$5i.3251@tornado.rdc-kc.rr.com... > > wrote in message > news:1131249031.975967.268820@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > > The worst part about this is that there must certainly be many > > people > > who became acquainted on Audiokarma and who chatted to each other > > exclusively on audiokarma about their own projects and many other > > things as well.. Now they have been cut off from each other, many > > in > > mid sentence. The site has been down for one week and counting. > > The > > users haven't received as much as an email to give a heads up on > > what > > progress, if any, has been made to restore the site. > > > > Try this: > > http://66.221.175.84/forums/index.php?s=9187e278ca85cbff9490f59fce946dd8 > > > Article: 325397 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <6487-436D1F48-584@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: DIAL COVERS, GLASS AND PLASTIC. Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 04:46:12 GMT Bill, it's good to hear from you. Please don't be a stranger. Also thanks for letting us know where you are with these dial covers. If you read my recent post, I picked up a Crosley Fiver radio which could use one. I made the subtle comment, hoping to hear an answer from you. Instead I got a little criticism for asking -- such is this NG. In any case, glad you're still there, and glad to hear you have a way of continuing the service. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "Bill Turner" wrote in message news:6487-436D1F48-584@storefull-3252.bay.webtv.net... > PLEASE BE AWARE THAT I NO LONGER FURNISH THE ABOVE MENTIONED ITEMS DUE > TO THE FACT THAT MY LEFT SIDE WILL NOT ALLOW ME TO HANDLE THE MATERIAL. > MY SON NOW HANDLES ALL DIAL COVERS. HIS ADDRESS IS INCLUDED IN MY > WEBSITE. > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. > > > > Article: 325398 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1131214927.986207.228980@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Swap meet ads Message-ID: <0Yfbf.439$Xo.140@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 04:50:04 GMT Which show did you attend? The December show brings more people than the others, but in my opinion all have been lacking. I'm attempting to do something about it. From the response I've seen so far, it looks like it could really take off -- but presently the only way we'll be able to tell is to see what happens on the 3rd. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "RadioGary" wrote in message news:1131214927.986207.228980@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > When I attended your swap meet a couple of years ago while living in > Tampa, there was a bleak turnout. I hope that this spurs more > activity. gb > > Gary Tayman wrote: >> As many of you know I've been sharing my thoughts on building up swap >> meets, >> particularly the Sarasota meet which is coming up in December. The >> response >> I've run into has been quite interesting! >> >> Yesterday I spent the day in Arcadia, which has a thriving antique shop >> district along Oak Street downtown. Basically I told them we had a radio >> swap meet coming up, and am passing out information. Out of all the >> shops >> there, only one was uninterested -- ALL of the others took a flyer and >> pasted it on their front window, and about half kept several copies to >> put >> on the counter. Surprisingly, the stores that were more feminine -- >> featuring dresses and glassware, etc. -- were the most enthused. The >> lady >> at the Opera House grabbed the entire stack from my hand and set them at >> the >> entrance where everyone could take them. At the end of the day I drove >> down >> Oak Street, and every shop on both sides had a flyer in the window. >> >> Then I attended a ham club meeting last night. These are the fellows who >> put on the hamfest in Palmetto the same day. Last week I spoke with the >> contact person and let him know we were hosting our meet on Saturday >> morning, and that several people come from out of town to attend both >> meets. >> The response from him, and the rest of the club, was very positive! We >> will >> be doing some cross-advertising; they will let their customers know about >> our meet, and I will give out information about theirs at our meet. >> Plus, >> they took a number of flyers, and will spread them to various shops in >> the >> Tampa/St. Pete area, as well as Lakeland, and even Orlando. Although >> they >> cannot personally visit our meet as they are busy running theirs, they >> expressed an interest in coming to another meet, such as the one we host >> in >> April. >> >> So from what I can see, the only reason we haven't had big shows in the >> past >> is because people simply don't know about them. The mere mention of it >> has >> resulted in plenty of interest! >> >> >> -- >> Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical >> Sound Solutions For Classic Cars >> http://www.taymanelectrical.com > Article: 325399 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: OT: Pay Pal Payments Ebay Guido Collector Type needed Springfield,MO Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 01:12:20 -0700 Message-ID: References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131066553.524341.62230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <436c2bdd_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:n1dbf.545956$xm3.304358@attbi_s21... > In article , hacky@smackeycrackey.com > says... >> >> >>well they did and they didnt.... had shipping been less, they might have >>paid 'more' for the item. total cost would have been the same... i >>realize >>there is some play here, but if shipping costs were 0, i think you would >>agree that you would very probably have more money in your pocket. >> >>randy >> >> > Doubt it Randy... I only charge for shipping the exact amount needed to > pay for it.. no hidden handling fees.. and we always look for the cheapest > way to ship stuff... its just that when U start shipping anything overseas > it gets expensive very quickly... try 44 pounds slow boat 4 to 6 weeks > surface > mail to Spain and see what it costs... don't make that thing weigh 45 > pounds.. > all of a sudden your 4 to 6 weeks surface parcel post... it isnt offered > now it air parcel post only!... we managed to hold the box to 43 pounds > for > the guy... a large rotor and two control boxes.. > > how about a 44 pound signal generator... vhf unit... to Korea... 72 bucks > plus a couple bucks for the insurance... you dont give your buyers enough credit to think that they factor shipping cost (no matter how big it is) into their bid? ok... randy Article: 325400 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: OT: Pay Pal Payments Ebay Guido Collector Type needed Springfield,MO From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1130990005.594931.73070@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1131066553.524341.62230@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <436c2bdd_4@newsfeed.slurp.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 13:29:06 GMT In article , hacky@smackeycrackey.com says... > > > >you dont give your buyers enough credit to think that they factor shipping >cost (no matter how big it is) into their bid? > >ok... > >randy > > Guess I missed your point... yes I imagine that they all pay attention to the cost of shipping... no big deal when its a 2 pound item.. but very big deal when item is large and or heavy... yes for sure... thats probably the mail reason we don't see our console radios jumping off the pages at fleabay for big bucks... unless two bidders who are close enough to drive and pick it up decide they want one... Or the rarer stuff that has high enough prices that the shipping portion even though expensive isnt a large part of it... John Article: 325401 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Swap meet ads From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1131214927.986207.228980@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <0Yfbf.439$Xo.140@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 13:36:46 GMT In article <0Yfbf.439$Xo.140@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, gtayman@gate.net says... > > >it looks like it could really take off -- but >presently the only way we'll be able to tell is to see what happens on the >3rd. >Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Gary .... sounds like your advertising has hopefully reached into new areas that will drag in new people to see the show.... just be sure to bug the club members to bring more stuff to have available for sale.. Increased crowd... needs increase in available goodies for sale... Be sure that some of the guys have some radios there that are already electronically restored for sale... as you will probably have a good amount of people that are not technically inclined to buy and fix... wouldn't hurt to have someone willing to do restoration for the ones that aren't already done... John k9uwa Article: 325402 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: Subject: Re: Comparing old prices/earnings to new? Message-ID: <_pobf.370$Id6.241@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 14:28:10 GMT I agree with John, that overall purchasing power by their calculator is way off base. However I really believe it's difficult to compare prices today with those of yesterday, simply because we're living in a different world. Using the Model A Ford analogy, you can truly buy a better car today for the same equivalent price or less. Some new Korean car may have a similar price tag, and include a stereo, air conditioning, and other amenities unknown to people in Henry Ford's day. For that matter you can buy a used Cadillac and really do it in style -- I paid $8,000 for my 93 DeVille a few years ago and still love it. Although the Model A was a basic family car, it was state of the art -- and if compared to anything today it would be similar to a Ford 500 or Chevy Impala. If a Model A were to be built today, the price may be high due to labor standards -- but if a car were to be built with similar features (no radio, no power steering, no airbags, etc., it would be extremely cheap. As a similar comparison, when the pocket calculators were first available around 1970 the most basic models went for well over $100. By the end of the decade they were going for around $10, and today your insurance salesman will give you one, along with a pencil eraser and other trinkets. Now compare some other things -- how about a house? Around here a typical 3 bedroom ranch is going for $400,000. In 1920, according to their calculator, it would have been around $42,000 which would have been highway robbery. If you try things such as milk, gasoline, electric bill, insurance, medical expenses, etc., you'll see calculations that go totally off the dartboard. Changing market conditions create differences in prices, not just some standardized inflation index. Now, one more interesting item: I saw in a sales brochure that my 1929 Atwaater Kent model 60 sold for $120 new (without tubes!). Forget about the fact that it's AM only, has no DVD player or computer interface. This was 1929's equivalent of a plasma TV. By the calculator this radio sold for today's price of $1395.09. Personally I believe it was much less affordable than that -- which is why so many people would rather make a radio than buy one. However the calculator on http://eh.net/hmit/compare/ shows a different perspective, as it uses a number of different standards for comparison. Given the same information (using 2003 instead of 2005 only because that's as far as it goes) I get the following results: In 2003, $120.00 from 1929 is worth: $1,288.18 using the Consumer Price Index $1,065.34 using the GDP deflator $4,188.15 using the unskilled wage $5,333.01 using the GDP per capita $12,707.95 using the relative share of GDP Interesting! -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:yTQaf.301794$084.9767@attbi_s22... > In article , > analogdial@worldnet.att.net says... >> >> >>The Bureau of Labor Statistics has an inflation calculator on this page: >> >>http://www.bls.gov/cpi/home.htm >> >>Frank Dresser >> >> > > Looks to me like something wrong with their calculator... I put in > $630 in 1932 and it tells me that is in todays dollars $9141.90 ... > so the first is what it cost to buy your average 1932 Ford Automobile. > So tell me what New Car can I buy today for $9141 ?.... certainly > a long way from a correct number it appears to me... or what am > I doing wrong here? > > John k9uwa > begin 666 bluearrow.gif M1TE&.#EA% `*`-4```8&D0@(DP@(D D)D0H*E H*D0P,D@T-EPT-D@X.EP\/ MEQ$1EQ(2EQ,3EQ45CA@8CR @DC0TGC\_I#\_HT-#J$Q,JDM+J$A(GU=7HZ.C MT*>GT*:FSJ2DR["PU;&QU;6UV+2TU^WM].WM\_#P]?W]_OS\_?CX^??W^/__ M_/[^_?W]_/____W]_?O[^_CX^/?W]____P`````````````````````````` M`````````````````````````````````"'Y! $``# `+ `````4``H```9) M0!)J12P:CT41QJ-".HLCQ\ ":CZ/(\@A@*A\4EQ88D"(7)YA4FCAX`$AHG?44A%QDNA48E)HM'00`[ ` end Article: 325403 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: OT - why all the jokes when I post here? Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 10:08:50 -0500 Message-ID: <11ms740m4ehut27@corp.supernews.com> References: <4cX8f.35571$fE5.34186@fed1read06> <1130702032.373016.290330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mavhvba65oe05@corp.supernews.com> <1130919305.679455.131210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4368c075$0$11074$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <1131251138.422946.178640@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Jeff, WB8NHV wrote: > > so am not sure whether even a fast-acting fuse just ahead of the power > transformer would blow fast enough in the event of such a short. Fusing indeed has been shown to be less effective than 2 pilot bulbs in series with the B+ feed. The best is the Uncle Pete Method of a separate filament tranny. John H. Article: 325404 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Beerbelly Subject: Re: OT - why all the jokes when I post here? Message-ID: References: <4cX8f.35571$fE5.34186@fed1read06> <1130702032.373016.290330@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <11mavhvba65oe05@corp.supernews.com> <1130919305.679455.131210@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <4368c075$0$11074$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl> <1131251138.422946.178640@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 10:22:13 -0500 That is a great area Jeff. I'm up there about once a year. I have a close friend in Painesville. On 5 Nov 2005 20:25:38 -0800, "Jeff, WB8NHV" wrote: > My suggestion regarding replacement of rectifier tubes, especially the >troublesome 6X5s in older Zenith radios, with silicon diodes was based >on the comments I've been reading here regarding the habit the 6X5s >used in these sets have of shorting and taking the power transformer >with them. If you don't want to replace the tubes with silicons (for >reasons of maintaining your old radio's authenticity, for example), at >least fuse the power transformer so that if one or both 6X5s do short, >the fuse will blow before the transformer does or has a chance to. I >don't know the current rating for older Zenith radios using two 6X5s, >so am not sure whether even a fast-acting fuse just ahead of the power >transformer would blow fast enough in the event of such a short. I >would think, however, that the radio should draw enough current under >these conditions to blow the house fuses, before the transformer even >has a chance to get warm. > > BTW, thanks to all for the suggestions as to "developing a thicker >skin" and not taking things too literally when reading posts in these >forums. I admit I am a bit quick to jump to conclusions at >times--something I guess I'll have to watch from now on; not the >easiest thing in the world for me to do, as I am an ex-suburbanite >(lived in suburban Cleveland 43 years) now living in a small town, and >I have something of a quick temper as well. > > Bill Turner, WA0ABI, also came up with a suggestion that the reason >some responses to my posts seem like jokes is that they come from >people who are not the kind of radio bugs we are here. I guess I'll >have to adopt a "consider the source" attitude (and do just that) from >now on when reading such replies. > > Thanks again. > > Kind regards, > > Jeff, WB8NHV > Fairport Harbor, Ohio USA Article: 325405 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <1130726413.873599.204580@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <80A9f.908$ZA3.213356@monger.newsread.com> <1130815039.190391.320680@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130844636.240667.151690@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1130848213.979109.71530@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <1130848389.531893.303460@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: You be the judge about this seller's integrity and attitude Message-ID: Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 09:17:49 -0800 time valuation of money.... most folks have never heard of it... "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1130848389.531893.303460@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > No FAIR!! > > You used your brain! > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 325406 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Hagstar Subject: Re: FS: Restuffed Wax/Paper Capacitors Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 11:17:08 -0500 Message-ID: <11msb42h8k6uo1a@corp.supernews.com> References: REALLY ? John H. Article: 325407 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: OT - why all the jokes when I post here? Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 08:36:47 -0800 Message-ID: <22234-436E311F-344@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> References: <1131251138.422946.178640@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> >From Jeff: >I don't know the current rating for older >Zenith radios using two 6X5s, so am not >sure whether even a fast-acting fuse just >ahead of the power transformer would >blow fast enough in the event of such a >short. I would think, however, that the >radio should draw enough current under >these conditions to blow the house >fuses,.. Blow the house fuses? Surely now you *are* joking, right? Bill(oc) Article: 325408 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Bob in Phx" References: <3sv3jjFqbeo3U1@individual.net> <1131057662.248467.271320@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1131074731.238141.152960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Zenith tuning capacitor Message-ID: Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 10:18:55 -0800 my younger brother has a plan (a 10 year long plan) to breed cats for size. The idea is that in that time frame, the cats should be about 60 pounds and tough as nails... and he also wants to teach them to say "here pit bull, here pit bull" Of course, this idea was right after a class on selective breeding in college!!!! Bob in phx "Peter Wieck" wrote in message news:1131074731.238141.152960@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com... > Yo, Eddie, > > When you come to pick up your Shutterdial and Movie Dial, you will have > to negotiate with Boswell first. 18 pounds, not an ounce of fat on > him... and has managed as many as four (4) full grown squirrels in a > single day. > > Peter Wieck > Wyncote, PA > Article: 325409 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: OT - why all the jokes when I post here? Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 10:13:29 -0700 Message-ID: <27688-436E39B9-926@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: <22234-436E311F-344@storefull-3176.bay.webtv.net> Someone needs to make fused tube adapters for these Article: 325410 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: What ever happened to dial cover for sale ? Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 10:17:10 -0700 Message-ID: <27690-436E3A96-88@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> The guy who was selling out his business ? never heard back . Article: 325411 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 13:31:14 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Comparing old prices/earnings to new? References: <_pobf.370$Id6.241@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <0hnsm1h4h5r9llc3mrv5p1d208o8vegcbo@4ax.com> Message-ID: <737$436e3dec$4232be1d$14001@COQUI.NET> Andy Cuffe wrote: > > As someone who will be entering the housing market soon as a first > time buyer this is very depressing. All the nice places to live seem > to have been priced out the market over the last 20 years. I sure > wish I could buy a house for what one cost then, even accounting for > inflation. I think it has been that way forever. But right now at least there's a bargain (somewhat) with interest rates. A house gets REALLY expensive if you have to pay over 10% ! -Bill Article: 325412 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" Subject: Help: Frying power transformer Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 18:01:18 GMT On the bench now a chassis missing the rectifier AZ41. I've made the usual SS replacement with the 1n4007 and resistors and then electrolitycs. Job stopped because after about 10-15sec. the power transformer starts frying also if i took off the 'fake' rectifier. The trouble seems in the primary winding since mains wires become overheated while secondaries not. I've replaced the mains bypass cap with no success. Secondary windings give correct voltages. Is this P.T. needing to be replaced due to an internally short or am I missing a 'mortal' step?? -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 325413 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: goodguyy@webtv.net (Ken G.) Subject: Re: Zenith tuning capacitor Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 11:04:25 -0700 Message-ID: <27688-436E45A9-996@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net> References: I use Westleys bleech wite , wash it down with a soft paint brush & rinse in hot water If its clean `stop` if not .... Then wash again with The Works bathroom cleaner very quickly with this stuff & rinse in hot water . Then another dose of the bleech wite . Then blow it dry with forced air . Dogs were put on earth to bark all day and drive others nuts . Article: 325414 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Scharf Subject: Re: 6X5's Converted to Diodes - Why? References: <4cX8f.35571$fE5.34186@fed1read06> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 13:30:43 -0500 Uncle Peter wrote: > "Blacksmith" wrote in message > news:eke8m19d9kfbapg4d4b55fhvf39mhfsl4r@4ax.com... > >>I have a Zenith console in the garage that I'm renovating. I have the >>case nearly pretty again, but am just starting on the chassis. I don't >>remember the model number and don't want to go out and move the car >>tonight to get to it. The schematic is for a chassis 10A1 though >>models: 10S531, 10S549, 10S566. I think it's the -531. >>-- > > > The 6X5 tubes are notorious for heater to cathode shorts, which > equates to transformer meltdown in a lot of Zenith models that > used those rectifiers. > > A common "fix" was replacing the tubes with silicon diodes. > > My approach is to fuse the chassis, and to add a small > Hammond filament transformer (inside rear apron) to power > just the 6X5 filaments.... > > Photo on binaries. > > Pete > > > were 6x4's any better than the 6x5? You could make a socket adaptor and just switch to the 6x4 tubes. I personally like the idea of an under the socket filament tranny, and you don't have to go futher than ratshack to find a 6.3v 1.2a tranny. Article: 325415 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Martin" References: Subject: Re: Frying power transformer Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 18:32:35 -0000 Message-ID: <436e4c44$0$63078$ed2e19e4@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net> "Daniele" wrote in message news:Oxrbf.48481$Pe2.920872@twister2.libero.it... > On the bench now a chassis missing the rectifier AZ41. > I've made the usual SS replacement with the 1n4007 and > resistors and then electrolitycs. > Job stopped because after about 10-15sec. the power transformer > starts frying also if i took off the 'fake' rectifier. The trouble seems > in the primary winding since mains wires become overheated while > secondaries not. I've replaced the mains bypass cap with no success. > Secondary windings give correct voltages. > Is this P.T. needing to be replaced due to an internally short or am I > missing > a 'mortal' step?? > > -- > > Daniele ^___^ > http://www.tuberadio.it > > If the mains bypass cap.that you replaced is across one half of the HT secondary, Philips-style and you didn't leave any whiskers of solder on the valveholder, and the wires to the scale lampholder don't heat up, I don't think you are missing any step. Sorry to hear of the demise of your transformer, Martin(Stockport) Article: 325416 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ron Subject: Re: Comparing old prices/earnings to new? Date: 06 Nov 2005 13:34:13 EST Message-ID: <436E4DB8.80904@yahoo.com> References: <_pobf.370$Id6.241@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <0hnsm1h4h5r9llc3mrv5p1d208o8vegcbo@4ax.com> Yup the banks and cheap credit sure did destroy the housing market for all but those people that are buying and selling to get rich quick. I sure hope prices fall and leave them INVESTORS high and dry. Most houses and the land under them aren't worth anywhere near what people are paying for them but there are still good deals out there put you really have to look for them. So now why do we have so many homeless ? Do you know that you can Homestead land and not just farm land but business property and houses in Nebraska and Kansas ? Andy Cuffe wrote: > On Sun, 06 Nov 2005 14:28:10 GMT, "Gary Tayman" > wrote: > > >>Now compare some other things -- how about a house? Around here a typical 3 >>bedroom ranch is going for $400,000. In 1920, according to their >>calculator, it would have been around $42,000 which would have been highway >>robbery. > > > As someone who will be entering the housing market soon as a first > time buyer this is very depressing. All the nice places to live seem > to have been priced out the market over the last 20 years. I sure > wish I could buy a house for what one cost then, even accounting for > inflation. Article: 325417 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Nelson Gietz" Subject: Paint on wood radio Message-ID: Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 12:55:40 -0800 Just came into possession of a Victor RE 57, electronically intact with all tubes...everything except the mic and some recording blanks. However, the thing had been painted. Is there any way to remove paint without taking the original finish with it? Cheers, Nelson Article: 325418 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: David Stinson Subject: Need Firestone Parts Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:40:26 GMT Forwarded for a member of the Boatanchors list. Jack Antonio WA7DIA scr287@sbcglobal.net ------------------- Anyone have a source for parts for restoring antique radios? Specifically looking for the dial glass and trim pieces for a Firestone S7404-1. Belonged to my grandfather, and now I'm bringing it back to life. The dial glass survived the UPS shipping >from Georgia, but did not survive the move >from the storage unit to my house. Thanks Jack Article: 325419 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: 6X5's Converted to Diodes - Why? From: Larry References: <4cX8f.35571$fE5.34186@fed1read06> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 15:01:32 -0500 Ken Scharf wrote in news:eXrbf.33269$NJ.31633@bignews7.bellsouth.net: > you don't have to go > futher than ratshack to find a 6.3v 1.2a tranny. Your ratshack musta had some leftovers. Ours hardly have any parts left, now. Ratshack is a cellphone toy company now. -- Larry Article: 325420 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: oldcoot@webtv.net (Bill Sheppard) Subject: Re: horiz hold issue - rca ctc-10 Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 13:25:46 -0800 Message-ID: <16567-436E74DA-375@storefull-3178.bay.webtv.net> References: <1131304855.101957.108300@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Frenchy, The resolution of the hor.AFC section of the schematic comes thru too blurry to see, but is there a solid state (3-legged) dual diode in there ahead of the h.osc tube? If so, that diode is a frequent cause of poor / no hor.sync. Bill(oc) Article: 325421 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" Subject: Rider Chanalyst? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 15:50:51 -0600 I just won this on Ebay. I got it because it is differant than my other Chanalyst in that it has extra rca jacks that I cant read what they are in the pic. plus there are other plug in too. You guys know what model this is? http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/rca.jpg -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 325422 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: CalBubba Subject: Re: Need Schematic Date: 6 Nov 2005 16:00:04 -0600 Message-ID: <436e7c42$0$233$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> References: ESDI-80 wrote: > > Here is a snippet for a store on eBay for a Concept 7.5D > > CONCEPT was a manufacturer of high end audio components that was > porprietary gear that was sold by Pacific stereo in the 1970’s & early > 1980’s. I use to sell these receivers in 1980. They were the top of the > line as far as I was concerned. I’m a big Marantz guy, but these were > and still are some of the best sounding receivers that were built at the > time. I really love the quality that goes into concept stereo's. ROTFL! "Marantz" during the 80s was a different company than the venerable brand founded by Saul Marantz. All the Marantz receivers that I saw at the time were pretty poor department store quality junk of the time. Let's listen to this seller continue to lay on the eBay hype with his trowel: I now > have a Concept 16.5 for my JBL 4343's. Each CONCEPT is sleek and built > to last. The CONCEPT stereos were individually bench tested by hand in > the CONCEPT laboratories to ensure the highest quality. ROTFL! ROTFL! HA HA HA! The "Concept laboratories." These laboratories (plural, mind you) were staffed by the same white-coated folks who we saw in the JC Whitney catalogs in the ads for Fire Injectors, Wheel balancing rings, and Magic Pellets, in ads that said "A Famous Scientist Writes..." HA HA HA HA HA! From the custom > developed power transformers to the 6mm aluminum extrusion casing the > CONCEPT stereo's are one of the finest moments in audio "...finest moments in audio..." ROTFL! HA HA HA! and are becoming > a strong collectable as more and more collectors are acquiring them. Hoo hoo hoo! Do not miss your chance to own a true classic. Har har! In fact, many vintage receiver collectors regard CONCEPT > stereos as some of the best ever made by anyone. ??????? The circuitry was > designed by Dick Schram, who went on to be a key figure with Parasound. > Hmmmm. I wonder if this is true. Schramm wasn't exactly a designer as far as I knew, but more of an aggregator of existing overseas circuits. But, now you've got my interest. Look: For $50, I'll put on a white lab coat and appear in your eBay ad. Add another $5 and I'll wear a badge that says "Famous Scientist." I'll make a sign that says "CalBubba Laboratories." I'll even buy some test instruments from some of the folks in this newsgroup. They don't have to work, you know, but they should, as they say in eBayese: "Power up." And I will testify that your product will, indeed, "power up." I'll grow rich renting out my pictures. Ha ha ha ha! A sucker a minute! Ha ha ha ha !! > http://cgi.ebay.com/Concept-7-5-7-5D-Digital-Read-Out-Receiver_W0QQitemZ5805594440QQcategoryZ50596QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > CalBubba Article: 325423 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 18:34:27 -0400 From: Bill Subject: Re: Need Firestone Parts References: Message-ID: <37559$436e84fd$4232be1d$21662@COQUI.NET> David Stinson wrote: > > > Specifically looking for the dial glass and > trim pieces for a Firestone S7404-1. Belonged to > my grandfather, and now I'm bringing it > back to life. > Bad news. Radiodaze is the only game in town for printed glass dials and they do not list this one. Looks like the options will be finding a junker set or a homebrew arts&crafts one. -Bill Article: 325424 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Gary Tayman" References: <1131214927.986207.228980@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <0Yfbf.439$Xo.140@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Swap meet ads Message-ID: <4Svbf.698$Xo.350@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 22:56:00 GMT John, I've already got 6 new dealers interested. There is one dealer, who was there in August for the first time, who restores and sells radios -- had several Crosleys there. I don't think he sold much of anything at the last meet, but he is indeed coming back. The "spectators" is one reason why I'm pushing radios for display as well as for sale. I'm hoping to have a nice display of finished radios, so that anyone not interested in parts will still have something to see and enjoy. -- Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical Sound Solutions For Classic Cars http://www.taymanelectrical.com "John Goller, k9uwa" wrote in message news:OFnbf.518731$x96.339946@attbi_s72... > In article <0Yfbf.439$Xo.140@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, > gtayman@gate.net says... >> >> >>it looks like it could really take off -- but >>presently the only way we'll be able to tell is to see what happens on the >>3rd. >>Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical > > Gary .... sounds like your advertising has hopefully reached into new > areas that will drag in new people to see the show.... just be sure > to bug the club members to bring more stuff to have available for sale.. > > Increased crowd... needs increase in available goodies for sale... > > Be sure that some of the guys have some radios there that are already > electronically restored for sale... as you will probably have a good > amount of people that are not technically inclined to buy and fix... > > wouldn't hurt to have someone willing to do restoration for the ones > that aren't already done... > > John k9uwa > Article: 325425 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Brian Hill" References: Subject: Re: Rider Chanalyst? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 17:23:11 -0600 I found the manual for this on BAMA. Thank God for BAMA. :) -- Regards B.H. Brian's Basement http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/6.htm Brian's Radio Universe http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/500.htm Article: 325426 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Lou deGonzague Subject: Re: 6X5's Converted to Diodes - Why? References: <4cX8f.35571$fE5.34186@fed1read06> Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 23:28:57 GMT Never heard of a problem with 6X4. I have a few newer 6X5 tubes that have the exact same structure as the 6X4 and I believe they will not have the shorting problem that the old design had. Ken Scharf wrote: > Uncle Peter wrote: > >>"Blacksmith" wrote in message >>news:eke8m19d9kfbapg4d4b55fhvf39mhfsl4r@4ax.com... >> >> >>>I have a Zenith console in the garage that I'm renovating. I have the >>>case nearly pretty again, but am just starting on the chassis. I don't >>>remember the model number and don't want to go out and move the car >>>tonight to get to it. The schematic is for a chassis 10A1 though >>>models: 10S531, 10S549, 10S566. I think it's the -531. >>>-- >> >> >>The 6X5 tubes are notorious for heater to cathode shorts, which >>equates to transformer meltdown in a lot of Zenith models that >>used those rectifiers. >> >>A common "fix" was replacing the tubes with silicon diodes. >> >>My approach is to fuse the chassis, and to add a small >>Hammond filament transformer (inside rear apron) to power >>just the 6X5 filaments.... >> >>Photo on binaries. >> >>Pete >> >> >> > > were 6x4's any better than the 6x5? You could make a socket adaptor > and just switch to the 6x4 tubes. I personally like the idea > of an under the socket filament tranny, and you don't have to go > futher than ratshack to find a 6.3v 1.2a tranny. Article: 325427 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Daniele" References: Subject: Re: Rider Chanalyst? Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 23:40:08 GMT Brian Hill wrote: > I found the manual for this on BAMA. Thank God for BAMA. :) I had the pleasure to clean the scans, i've learned a new job :-)) -- Daniele ^___^ http://www.tuberadio.it Article: 325428 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: dialcover@webtv.net (Bill Turner) Subject: Re: DIAL COVERS, GLASS AND PLASTIC. Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 17:42:34 -0600 Message-ID: <9038-436E94EA-251@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> References: <1131241455.040856.64980@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> I AM UNABLE TPO PROVIDE THE PHONO IDLER SERVICE AT THE MOMENT, HOPE TO PROVIDE IT IN THE FUTURE. KEEP TUNED. CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. Article: 325429 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <436e7c42$0$233$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com> Subject: Re: Need Schematic Message-ID: <62xbf.1315$ZA3.297174@monger.newsread.com> Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 00:17:06 GMT Oh hush now, Richard, they aren't THAT wretched... "CalBubba" wrote in message news:436e7c42$0$233$bb4e3ad8@newscene.com... > ESDI-80 wrote: > > > > Here is a snippet for a store on eBay for a Concept 7.5D > > > > CONCEPT was a manufacturer of high end audio components that was > > porprietary gear that was sold by Pacific stereo in the 1970’s & early > > 1980’s. I use to sell these receivers in 1980. They were the top of the > > line as far as I was concerned. I’m a big Marantz guy, but these were > > and still are some of the best sounding receivers that were built at the > > time. I really love the quality that goes into concept stereo's. > > ROTFL! > "Marantz" during the 80s was a different company than the venerable > brand founded by Saul Marantz. All the Marantz receivers that I saw at > the time were pretty poor department store quality junk of the time. > Let's listen to this seller continue to lay on the eBay hype with his > trowel: > > I now > > have a Concept 16.5 for my JBL 4343's. Each CONCEPT is sleek and built > > to last. The CONCEPT stereos were individually bench tested by hand in > > the CONCEPT laboratories to ensure the highest quality. > > ROTFL! ROTFL! > HA HA HA! > The "Concept laboratories." These laboratories (plural, mind you) were > staffed by the same white-coated folks who we saw in the JC Whitney > catalogs in the ads for Fire Injectors, Wheel balancing rings, and Magic > Pellets, in ads that said "A Famous Scientist Writes..." > HA HA HA HA HA! > > From the custom > > developed power transformers to the 6mm aluminum extrusion casing the > > CONCEPT stereo's are one of the finest moments in audio > > "...finest moments in audio..." > ROTFL! HA HA HA! > > > and are becoming > > a strong collectable as more and more collectors are acquiring them. > > Hoo hoo hoo! > > Do not miss your chance to own a true classic. > > Har har! > > In fact, many vintage receiver collectors regard CONCEPT > > stereos as some of the best ever made by anyone. > > ??????? > > The circuitry was > > designed by Dick Schram, who went on to be a key figure with Parasound. > > > > Hmmmm. I wonder if this is true. Schramm wasn't exactly a designer as > far as I knew, but more of an aggregator of existing overseas circuits. > But, now you've got my interest. > > Look: > For $50, I'll put on a white lab coat and appear in your eBay ad. Add > another $5 and I'll wear a badge that says "Famous Scientist." I'll make > a sign that says "CalBubba Laboratories." I'll even buy some test > instruments from some of the folks in this newsgroup. They don't have to > work, you know, but they should, as they say in eBayese: "Power up." And > I will testify that your product will, indeed, "power up." > > I'll grow rich renting out my pictures. > > Ha ha ha ha! > A sucker a minute! > Ha ha ha ha !! > > > http://cgi.ebay.com/Concept-7-5-7-5D-Digital-Read-Out-Receiver_W0QQitemZ5805594440QQcategoryZ50596QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem > > > > CalBubba Article: 325430 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Comparing old prices/earnings to new? From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <_pobf.370$Id6.241@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net> <0hnsm1h4h5r9llc3mrv5p1d208o8vegcbo@4ax.com> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 00:19:32 GMT In article <0hnsm1h4h5r9llc3mrv5p1d208o8vegcbo@4ax.com>, baltimora@psu.edu says... > > > >>Now compare some other things -- how about a house? Around here a typical 3 >>bedroom ranch is going for $400,000. > >As someone who will be entering the housing market soon as a first >time buyer this is very depressing. Hi Andy and Gary.... Well I will admit that I don't live in "Vacationland" like Gary does... and homes here for the most part although they have gone up in prices.... nothing like all this boom stuff I keep hearing about.. Here in Ft Wayne, IN ... most 2 and 3 bedroom slab ranch homes that are 30-40 years old... have been updated with new windows, kitchens, bathrooms etc... they sell in the 85 to 95k range... another radio collector buddy just built a new house and sold his 8 year old one... 8 years old... all brick exterior.. 3 bedrooms 2 baths... oversize for todays standards two car garage... so he had someplace for his boat and workshop... the cars had to live outside!.. radios much more important... super nice suburban housing addition and Frank got $129k for the place.... His new place.... well this time its a super sized 3 car garage... the 3rd bay is 36 feet deep..... yup the back 14 feet walled off for his work area on the old radios.. and the cars will finally get to live inside... this one is about 2000 sq feet or home.... brand brand new subdivision 3 car super sized garage... all brick across the front of this one and vinyl siding on the rest of it.... 200K for this one... so at least here in Northern Indiana... housing is reasonably affordable. nothing like where Gary is... there... everything is outta sight! John k9uwa Article: 325431 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "Steven Dinius_" <25@624.com> References: <1131241455.040856.64980@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <9038-436E94EA-251@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net> Subject: Re: DIAL COVERS, GLASS AND PLASTIC. Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 00:19:41 GMT "Bill Turner" wrote in message news:9038-436E94EA-251@storefull-3254.bay.webtv.net... > I AM UNABLE TPO PROVIDE THE PHONO IDLER SERVICE AT THE MOMENT, HOPE TO > PROVIDE IT IN THE FUTURE. KEEP TUNED. > > > CHECK MY WEBSITE: www.dialcover.com > Bill Turner, excuse caps, short answers, stroke. > Business SASE, each order a copy of The Pocket Resource Guide. That is sad, yet understandable at the present time. Please fill us in when you have made alternative arrangements. Article: 325432 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: Ken Subject: Re: Rider Chanalyst? References: Message-ID: Date: Sun, 06 Nov 2005 19:22:50 -0500 A very handy piece of equipment. Since the dial scales are not right on across the dial, I modded my 162C so I can drive a counter with the RF or OSC output. With this I can look at the LO freq. without loading it. Ken Brian Hill wrote: > I just won this on Ebay. I got it because it is differant than my other > Chanalyst in that it has extra rca jacks that I cant read what they are in > the pic. plus there are other plug in too. You guys know what model this is? > > http://webpages.charter.net/brianhill/rca.jpg Article: 325433 of rec.antiques.radio+phono Subject: Re: Swap meet ads From: k9uwaREMOVE@THISarrl.netSTUFF (John Goller, k9uwa) References: <1131214927.986207.228980@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <0Yfbf.439$Xo.140@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> <4Svbf.698$Xo.350@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net> Message-ID: Date: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 00:27:17 GMT In article <4Svbf.698$Xo.350@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net>, gtayman@gate.net says... > > >John, > >I've already got 6 new dealers interested. There is one dealer, who was >Gary E. Tayman/Tayman Electrical We won't make this one... but hope to make the late march very early April one... have made it the last two years... not large... but fun time to pick up some parts maybe a radio or two and more fun to yak with the guys at the meet! Tell Bernie Hello for us! John Article: 325434 of rec.antiques.radio+phono From: "xrongor" Subject: Re: Paint on wood radio Date: Sun, 6 Nov 2005 17:49:28 -0700 Message-ID: References: short answer: depends what kind of paint on what kind of finish... i realize thats not much help, but here's something to try first. see if rubbing alcohol will remove the original finish in an unseen spot. if not, try rubbing the paint off with that. this will work if the paint didnt really mix with the finish, but just kind of settled on top. also, there is likely a reason it was painted, and that reason could be that the original finish is messed up so even if you get all the paint off, you may still be looking at a refinish. randy "Nelson Gietz" wrote in message news:Ljsbf.5430$lb7.62285@news1.mts.net... > Just came into possession of a Victor RE 57, electronically intact with > all > tubes...everything except the mic and some recording blanks. However, the > thing had been painted. Is there any way to remove paint without taking > the > original finish with it? > Cheers, > Nelson > >