From MAILER-DAEMON@luna.metalab.unc.edu Sun May 20 09:13:44 2001 Received: from listserv.albany.edu (listserv.albany.edu [169.226.1.24]) by luna.metalab.unc.edu (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f4KDDis18773 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 09:13:44 -0400 Received: from listserv.albany.edu (listserv.albany.edu [169.226.1.24]) by listserv.albany.edu (8.11.2/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f4KDDeJ12709 for ; Sun, 20 May 2001 09:13:40 -0400 (EDT) Message-Id: <200105201313.f4KDDeJ12709@listserv.albany.edu> Date: Sun, 20 May 2001 09:13:39 -0400 From: "L-Soft list server at University at Albany (1.8d)" Subject: File: "BEE-L LOG0103E" To: adamf@METALAB.UNC.EDU Content-Length: 18554 Lines: 393 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 07:27:00 -0700 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology From: T'N'T Apiaries Subject: Queen Rearing Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I would like to know if anyone uses or has used horizontal finishers as discribed in "Breeding Queen" by Gilles Fert.? My partner looks after the queen rearing and thought the idea has some merit. Pros and cons please. Also, our queen yard is now 1 1/2 miles from our home base. Has anyone any experience buillding a small grafting shed? Something no bigger than 8' X 10'-12', as we can only have it there for a couple months and then it must come home. I have some ideas for a layout but maybe some of you may have been down this road before. She has been producing a couple thousand cells annually from the cab of a pickup so we may have to install a steering wheel at the grafting station, but .... David Tharle TNT Apiaries Ardmore, AB Where spring came about a month early and this may not be a good thing. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 08:36:34 -0500 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology From: Lloyd Spear Subject: Using "old" combs Michael B, near Albany, wonders about using comb from a hive that died and asks "Am I being anal by wanting them to be super clean? There is dark residue left over on the frames, and I am wondering just how picky the bees will be." Michael, the answer to your question is "yes". The bees almost certainly died due to an infestation of varroa mites, which are no longer on your empty combs. The new bees will clean up your comb without any difficulty! There is a reasonably active bee club in your area, that meets in Ballston Spa the third Monday of alternative months. I suggest you join, as discussion with other beekeepers can help a lot. You can also contact their President to be put on a mailing list. I work a short distance from Scotia and would be glad to help further. If you have any interest please email me privately. Lloyd Lloyd Spear, Owner of Ross Rounds, manufacturer of comb honey equipment for beekeepers and Sundance pollen traps. http://www.rossrounds.com Lloyd@rossrounds.com ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:22:16 -0500 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology From: Tim Sterrett Subject: Re: Question = Starting Bees on Old Comb MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mark wrote: > I am an amateur beekeeper near Albany, NY. Last year, my single hive was > empty when I went to wrap it for the winter. There were no signs of bees, > hence I don't think there was any disease. > > My question: Is there anything more I can or should do to clean them in > preparation for my new bees other than scraping the leftover comb off. ***************** I wouldn't clean or scrape the frames. Bees are pretty good at cleaning up old comb, and swarms often move into places where bees have lived before. A challenge of using Pierco frames (as you are) is getting the bees to start building comb on them; not scraping them gives your bees a head start. Tim -- Tim Sterrett sterrett@fast.net (southeastern) Pennsylvania, USA ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 09:23:30 -0700 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology From: John Edwards Organization: Hayden Bee Research Center, USDA-ARS,Tucson, Arizona Subject: Re: Queen Rearing Questions MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit T'N'T Apiaries wrote: > experience building a small grafting shed? Something no bigger than 8' X > 10'-12', > ...... She has been producing a couple thousand cells > annually from the cab of a pickup so we may have to install a steering wheel > at the grafting station, but .... I think you are already on the right track - consider a small pickup camper - I've seen large operations (several thousand requeenings/year at Jim Smith's in Yuma) run from these - and if bees getting in are still a problem, a "veil" of screening hung to cover the back door will work. Of course, you'll probably need a pickup, but a slide-in camper could always be set up by itself on blocks and hauled away when no longer needed. A shade tree would be a good spot to set it up under. - John Edwards, Tucson Bee Lab, USDA-ARS http://gears.tucson.ars.ag.gov/home/edwards/edwards.html ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 21:15:22 -0600 Reply-To: fbf@mb.sympatico.ca Sender: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology From: Faure Pierre Organization: French Bee Farm Subject: Imidaclopride on CBC MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit For beekeepers who don't want to see Imidaclopride or Gaucho in Canada. Please go on the following URL : Find on this page : Industry concern Click on : Nancy Russell has more on the study You will listen to a strange story in Prince Edouard Island. http://www.charlottetown.cbc.ca/ ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 22:46:38 +0100 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology From: James Kilty Subject: Foot and Mouth in the British Isles was BEE-L Digest - 26 Mar 2001 to 27 Mar 2001 (#2001-86) In-Reply-To: <200103281513.KAA16545@listserv.albany.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 In message <200103281513.KAA16545@listserv.albany.edu>, MatHig@AOL.COM writes >I have been curious since first hearing about the outbreak in England: What >potential role, if any, might honey bees have in spreading foot and mouth? >I'd especially like to hear from our English or Irish subscribers. Has there >been any such discussion over there? There was a tiny bit - the idea was dismissed. No-one can come up with a likely mechanism. Thank goodness. I hope no-one comes up with some crackpot idea, like they lick the sweat off their faces and could take it to another animal and infect it, that someone says is plausible so we'll have to kill all the bees as well, just to be safe. It's a far cry from the first cases of BSE when a government minister was proud to offer his daughter a burger! Even so the response was just too slow by a couple of days. The main problem is access to farmland with a ban on public entry. Beekeepers have either moved their hives off land with the relevant animals before any possible ban might be made or go through the disinfection process on entry and exit. This includes all tools and objects brought on to the farm (and off) so gloves are disinfected too if I remember right. I have one apiary in a field used by cows last year (a clover meadow next to field beans). Fortunately the farmer's father was a beekeeper, so I can discuss with him how to close up the hives to set them up to move. They are on two pallets so they can move them to the field entrance for me to load into my van to take to another site. They won't be doing the field beans this year. I will have to do some climbing over a water trough to gain entry into another field as I cannot drive my van up the track to get into the field. Every other apiary has easy entry. There are two cases confirmed in my county - at the eastern end near the first outbreak in Devon and was connected with it. At my end (the west), a local farm manager and friend had a stop order put on him after a wagon dropped off some feed. Its previous call was to a farm in Devon which had the disease confirmed a couple of days later. So he is waiting to see what happens and dare not go on holiday as he want to be there if the worst happens. The outbreak is devastating to farmers caught up in the epidemic. Every other farmer is waiting, expecting to either catch it or have a neighbour get it and be involved in a preventative cull. The tourists and other visitors are staying away in such high numbers that hotels and "bed-and-breakfast" places are losing money even when staff are laid off. All National Trust properties are closed (the biggest landowner in the country - I think). This includes beaches where deer come down to the sand on the heather. All trade dependent on visitors is hit terribly, even where there is no F & M (you call it hoof and mouth). The Eden project has had its expected number of visitors - mostly locals - but this may not last. 1/3 of the income in my county is from tourism. Few farms can sell their animals and get their usual income from sales. So the scale of suffering is enormous. And the waiting ... -- James Kilty ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 29 Mar 2001 17:51:21 EST Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology From: CSlade777@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Foot & Mouth & Bees MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit It took us 50 years to get our public rights of way open and about 2 days to close them. There has been some discussion on the ability of bees to carry the virus. They can probably do so when carrying water, particularly as they often favour water from unhygienic sources. However they will carry it no further than from puddle to hive and the virus can travel much further than that on the wind. The big danger is from beekeepers spreading the virus around on their clothing, footwear, vehicles etc. The government is alarmed at how cooperative people have been in keeping off farmland. People have gone over the top and stopped visiting the countryside altogether with the result that shops, pubs, tourist attractions and local businesses are having a very bad time through no fault of their own. A nurseryman told me last weekend when I was manning the office to deal with F & M calls that last year he had had 300 customers the corresponding day. This year he had 3. If you are thinking of coming to the UK as a tourist or on business please do come. You will be very welcome to visit our cities, towns and villages and to visit the usual tourist attractions and historical sites. Where you will not be welcome is on farmland. So please come but keep off the grass. We are getting mixed messages from the government. On the one hand they stress how infective F & M is and that there is a 3 week incubation period. Yet at the same time they are saying that large parts of the country are F & M free. How do they know? They must be keeping their fingers very tightly crossed when they come out with such brave statements. Only today there has been an outbreak in a previously unrecorded area. I have bees on several farms. I have reduced my visits to a minimum and on each occasion I ring the owner/ tenant first for permission and make sure I comply fully with any request he makes regarding disinfecting between sites. So far, so good. Chris ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 08:51:19 EST Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology From: "David L. Green" Subject: Nothing Could be Finer than to Bee in Caroliner in the Spring Time MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit IF you are still stuck in the cold and gloom of a winter that just hates to go away, come and make a virtual visit to SPRING, and the beekeeper's best time of year - when the azaleas and the wisteria make the world a place of vibrant colors; the warm sun and the soft rain are quickly turning the world green; and the bees are just bustin' the hives. Here is a slide show about making nucs, for those who just simply can't bee here in the center of the world: http://kutikshoney.com/nucs.htm Dave Green SC USA The Pollination Home Page: http://pollinator.com ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 00:20:22 +0100 Reply-To: pdillon@club-internet.fr Sender: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology From: Peter Dillon Organization: La Marne Subject: Pollination strike in belgium! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Bonjour from France, Find below a translation of an e-mail send to a discussion group base in Belgium. Hello everybody, I come from having been in contact with fruit growers where I place my hives for pollination. I have let them know that I will not be placing my hives in their orchards if they treat the trees with CONFIDOR (active material - Imidacloprid), the most important of the two has decided that he will not employ it. This year, in Walloon, the trees have not many flower buds, also our hives are indispensable. The Gawi (Association of fruit tree Growers)that practices integrated pest management, is aware that the beekeepers are able to undertake a pollination strike on the trees treated with Imidacloprid. I believe that it is indispensable that all beekeepers who move hives to the fruit trees send notice to the growers that they are not prepared to put their hives into orchards that have been treated. It must be done rapidly since next week the growers will be treating. If you move to the fruit trees take the precaution all the same of placing a pollen trap on one or two hives to keep proof in a deep freezer in case of intoxication. Philippe-Auguste ROBERTI Apiculteur-Eleveur-Miel sous label Abeilles de races Buckfast et Elgon Label : "Perle du Terroir" Ferme Apicole de Malplaquée B 5070 Sart-Saint-Laurent Belgqiue (Wallonie - Namur) Email : philippe.roberti@skynet.be http://users.skynet.be/urrw ORIGINAL E-MAIL MESSAGE: Subject: CONFICOR Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2001 21:57:41 +0200 From: "Philippe-Auguste Roberti" Reply-To: abeilles@fundp.ac.be To: Bonjour à tous, Je viens de prendre contact avec les arboriculteurs chez qui je place mes ruches pour la pollinisation. Les ayant averti que je ne placerais pas mes ruches dans leurs vergers s'ils traitaient leurs arbres au CONFIDOR (matière active : Imidaclopride), le plus important des deux a de suite décidé qu'il ne l'emploiera pas. Cette année, en Wallonie, les arbres n'ont pas beaucoup de boutons floraux, aussi nos ruches sont indispensables. Le Gawi (Groupement d'arboriculteur pratiquant la lutte intégrée), est au courant que les apiculteurs pourraient faire la grève de pollinisation sur fruitiers traités Imidaclopride. Je crois qu'il est indispensable que tous les apiculteurs qui transhument sur fruitiers préviennent les arboriculteurs qu'ils ne mettront pas leurs ruches dans des vergers traités. Il faut le faire rapidement car c'est la semaine prochaine que les arboriculteurs vont traiter. Si vous transhumez sur fruitiers non-traités prenez quand même la précaution de placer une trappe à pollen sur une ou deux ruches pour garder au congélateur une preuve en cas d'intoxication. Philippe-Auguste ROBERTI Apiculteur-Eleveur-Miel sous label Abeilles de races Buckfast et Elgon Label : "Perle du Terroir" Ferme Apicole de Malplaquée B 5070 Sart-Saint-Laurent Belgqiue (Wallonie - Namur) Email : philippe.roberti@skynet.be http://users.skynet.be/urrw ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2001 14:00:18 +0200 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology From: Denis Brothers Subject: Congress: African Entomology 2001 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit The deadline for registration for this Congress is 18th April. We welcome participation from entomologists of all persuasions. For details, please see our new webpage at http://www.up.ac.za/academic/entomological-society/ento2001/index.html We are still having problems with the formatting of the registration form, so please use the one in Word format in preference to the others. We look forward to welcoming you to KwaZulu-Natal. Denis Professor Denis J. Brothers School of Botany and Zoology (and Centre for Environment & Development) University of Natal, Pietermaritzburg Private Bag X01 Telephone: (+27) (0)33-260 5106 Scottsville Fax: (+27) (0)33-260 5105 3209 SOUTH AFRICA e-mail: brothers@nu.ac.za