From MAILER-DAEMON Fri Jan 3 12:46:58 2003 Return-Path: <> Delivered-To: adamf@ibiblio.org Received: from listserv.albany.edu (listserv.albany.edu [169.226.1.24]) by mail.ibiblio.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C312724ADC3 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:46:57 -0500 (EST) Received: from listserv.albany.edu (listserv.albany.edu [169.226.1.24]) by listserv.albany.edu (8.12.5/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h03Fjr9x008596 for ; Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:46:57 -0500 (EST) Message-Id: <200301031746.h03Fjr9x008596@listserv.albany.edu> Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 12:46:54 -0500 From: "L-Soft list server at University at Albany (1.8d)" Subject: File: "BEE-L LOG0111E" To: adamf@IBIBLIO.ORG Content-Length: 5278 Lines: 113 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 15:29:14 -0600 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology From: grumpy7 Subject: Catching and selling wasps MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, list friends -- I have been told of man who catches wasps with a bee-vac, kills them with dry-ice in an ice-chest, packages them in plastic bags labelled with the correct taxonomic name, and sells them to the pharmaceutical industry. Does anyone know anything about this? Might be a good way to justify getting or building a bee-vac. Lord knows, this part of the world (Louisiana) has a lot of wasps. Walter Weller ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 10:41:31 -0600 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology From: "Hanlin, Steve" Subject: What other products can be used for wax moth control MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" To all: I am presently using para-moth (p-Dichlorobenzene) crystals for the control of wax moth in stacks of supers and frames during the summer months. Last week we were inspected by the University's "safety, health and environmental" service for all environmental problems which may be occurring at the station prior to a EPA inspection. I was informed by the inspector, that there is a concern by the EPA with the deposal of by-products (wax, wood, rubber gloves, etc.) that may be contaminated with the fumes from the crystals and he was concerned with our recycling of wax or throwing contact materials into the general waste system. The inspector also recommended that I contact other beekeepers to discuss other products which can or are being used for the control of wax moth. So my question is what other products can be used for wax moth control? The winter months are not a problem in that we use environmental control because the equipment room is unheated and uninsulated. Thank you for your assistance on this issue. Steve J. Hanlin USDA; ARS/Iowa State University North Central Regional Plant Introdution Station Ames, IA 50011 ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 14:34:13 -0800 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology From: Richard Yarnell Organization: Oregon VOS Subject: Crystallizing honey In-Reply-To: <200111270132.fAR1Wb328095@listserv.albany.edu> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII I don't recall any discussion on this issue. It suddenly dawned on me as I was taking partially crystallized honey out of a plastic bucket to fulfill a special order in a hurry. We store extracted honey in plastic pails. When we are ready to package it, we put it in a light box and allow it to liquify. Today, I had to get some in special containers in a hurry. The pail I pulled, it turned out, was firmly crystallized on the top half, more or less, and almost liquid at the bottom. The honey all came from the same batch out of the extractor. It occurred to me that I don't know how honey crystallizes. In a jar, it appears that crystals begin to grow randomly in the volume. However, in a larger container, if crystallization begins (as seems apparent in the pail I'm working on) at the top and works down, is it possible that the water content of the still liquid volume is significantly higher than that of the solid mass above it. Anybody know? It's still not to late for me to warm the whole bucket and return what I've bottled to mix it all. Thanks. --------------- Richard Yarnell, SHAMBLES WORKSHOPS | No gimmick we try, no "scientific" Beavercreek, OR. Makers of fine | fix we attempt, will save our planet Wooden Canoes, The Stack(R) urban | until we reduce the population. Let's composter, Raw Honey | leave our kids a decent place to live. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:05:03 EST Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology From: GImasterBK@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Crystallizing honey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit You are correct. The liquid honey is now very liquid with water. Simply warm up the entire bucket until everything is liquid and stir to remix. George Imirie