From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Feb 28 07:47:59 2009 Return-Path: <> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on industrial X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-93.2 required=2.4 tests=AWL,SPF_HELO_PASS, USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.8 X-Original-To: adamf@METALAB.UNC.EDU Delivered-To: adamf@METALAB.UNC.EDU Received: from listserv.albany.edu (unknown [169.226.1.24]) by metalab.unc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 320DA4909E for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:28:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from listserv.albany.edu (listserv.albany.edu [169.226.1.24]) by listserv.albany.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n1SCP3ss010167 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:28:43 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 07:28:39 -0500 From: "University at Albany LISTSERV Server (14.5)" Subject: File: "BEE-L LOG0212E" To: adamf@METALAB.UNC.EDU Message-ID: Content-Length: 19164 Lines: 438 ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 22:26:27 -0500 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Jim Stein Subject: Re: Honey Super warmer In-Reply-To: <002801c2adb6$e284c3c0$5dac58d8@BusyBeeAcres> >Paul asked: >I am looking for plans to build a honey super warmer. I remember seeing >one referenced many years ago that was made out of an old 9 5/8's super >and some light bulbs. Would appreciate a source for this. Thanks I designed my own heater/dryer. I used 2x6 boards to make a frame that was 44.5 x 17.75 inches outside dimensions. The 17.75 width is set to match the inside width of a super. I used 1/2 inch plywood to cover the bottom and enough of the top to allow a super to fit on the uncovered part. The top cover was secured with screws so that you could have ready access to the interior. In the covered end I cut a 4 1/2 inch diameter hole. To the inside of the hole I mounted an axial fan. I'm not sure of the volume of air it moves but I would guess about 55 cfm would do. Grainger sells such a fan (part number 4C548). I mounted two regular light bulb sockets to each side that would be under the cover and made baffles out of cardboard that started as a "V" and then run parallel with the bulbs with a height sufficient to reach the top inside of the dryer so that the air has to pass over the bulbs. The cardboard was folded at the bottom about 1/2 to 3/4 inch and stapeled at the fold to the bottom. I used 60 Watt bulbs. The fan and the bulbs were wired in parallel circuits with a separate switch for the main power in and for the fan and then a standard dimmer light switch to control the power to the bulbs. I placed a piece of green furnace filter material on the outside fan opening to keep out the dust etc. The box was painted with high gloss white enamel for easy cleaning. Newspapers are placed on the bottom of the dryer under the opening with a cookie sheet on top of the newspaper to catch any honey that may drip. I have placed as many as 8 shallow supers on this device with good results. To monitor the temperature I place a thermometer in the middle of the top super. I set the dimmer switch to the light bulbs to hold 90 Deg. F. at the top. My next addition to this setup will be a dehumidifier at the air entrance for removing moisture during the high humidity we have in western Pennsylvania in June and July when the spring honey is removed. In late September the humidity is low enough that this is not necessary. Hope this helps. Jim -- ----------------------------------------------------------- jstein@worldnet.att.net ----------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 00:18:29 -0500 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: "C.R. Crowell" Subject: Cleaning glass of observation hive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Some comments have touched on the difficulty of cleaning plastic windows on observation hives. Because plastic is easy to scratch (both on the inside where it gets gunked up and on the outside where inevitably it gets scratched) I used laminated safety glass on the box I built. Laminated glass has the durability and ease of cleaning (scrape, then Windex or similar product, then rinse) of glass, with the added advantage that if broken the pieces stay attached to the plastic inner layer (like an automobile windshield). Tempered glass, although stronger, when broken becomes a pile of "nuggets", leaving no barrier between the bees and a classroom full of children. For me the added sense of security was worth the additonal cost of the glass. ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 07:19:24 -0500 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Garrett M Martin Subject: Re: Honey Super warmer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I have done this with a refrigerator to re liquify honey. A couple of things that I learned the hard way are. 1 Get a good thermostat controller. Kelly's sells one that is a removable in line device. That is to say plug into an outlet or source of 110v and plug the other end onto you lights. Place thermostat bulb near the bottom so that the hottest area will not get over the temperature that you have selected. The mark on Kelly's controller that indicates the settings is not accurate. You will need to discover your own mark. 2 You need a fan to move the air this is very important. The fan will keep the bulb cool and circulate the heat. While heat rises it does not do so efficiently. 3. You will need to place a barrier over the light I would probably cover 75% of the top of the opening. I used a 1" pine board. This board will work as a heat diffuser. It will help eliminate hot spots and the air space on the sides of it will allow air to circulate upward. I tired this without a fan and with the thermostat at the top of the refrigerator. Thinking hot air rises. I burned $200-$300 worth of honey. Very expensive mistake. Despite the mess of honey coming out of melted bottles. Garrett Martin Willets Lake Apiaries ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 07:26:27 -0500 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Garrett M Martin Subject: Long Term Heat effects on Honey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi to all I am looking for some op ions on the long term heat effects on honey. I have a refrigerator that I re liquify honey bottles in and I have been storing all of my honey bottles in it so that they will not crystallize again. I maintain the temperature at 120F to re liquify anything that I put in there. Will this heat darken the honey? Will this heat harm the nutritional value or change it? Will this heat make the honey taste stronger? Should I go for a different temperature setting? Garrett Martin Willets Lake Apiaries ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 13:32:59 -0000 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Peter Edwards Subject: Re: Long Term Heat effects on Honey Certainly yes to the first two. The taste will change for the worse. Honey should be stored in cool temperatures and only heated when necessary. Try this link: http://www.xs4all.nl/~jtemp/index3.html#english%20sites for the effects of heating honey. Our links page at: http://www.stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk/Links.htm will find you links to just about everything related to beekeeping! Peter Edwards beekeepers@stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: "Garrett M Martin" To: Sent: 29 December 2002 12:26 Subject: [BEE-L] Long Term Heat effects on Honey > Hi to all > I am looking for some op ions on the long term heat effects on honey >I maintain the temperature at 120F > Will this heat darken the honey? > Will this heat harm the nutritional value or change it? > Will this heat make the honey taste stronger? > Should I go for a different temperature setting? ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 10:25:29 -0500 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Peter Borst Subject: Apimondia 2003 Greetings! I am writing to find out if anyone from the USA is planning to go to Apimondia 2003. If so, perhaps we could discuss your plans and expectations. Peter ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 09:45:41 -0500 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Lloyd Spear Subject: removing wax residue John asks if hot vegetable oil will remove wax from Plexiglas. Yes, I have used it successfully on: glass, stainless steel, vinyl, and Formica. I suspect it will work on anything. Lloyd Lloyd Spear, Owner of Ross Rounds, manufacturer of comb honey equipment for beekeepers and Sundance pollen traps. http://www.rossrounds.com Lloyd@rossrounds.com ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 10:58:26 -0600 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Bob Harrison Subject: Honey Super warmer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Adrian wrote: Sometime in the distant past, someone recommended an old and large refrigerator with a light bulb inside. I have made many of these and found the boxes useful in many applications. You can find directions (with pictures) in an article I did for Bee Culture magazine. December 2000 page 32. Sincerely, Bob Harrison Odessa, Missouri ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 12:26:45 -0500 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Peter Borst Subject: Re: Apimondia 2003 For those unaware of it: The 38th Congress of APIMONDIA will be held in the very heart of Europe. Slovenia is a small country with a wealth of historical and natural beauties. Mountains, beaches, agricultural lands, lakes and forests make this small country well worth visiting. You will definitely feel comfortable in the lovely city of Ljubljana. It is one of the smallest capitals in Europe, but with all of the available facilities, this will be a first class Congress. Beekeeping has old roots in the history of Slovenia and even today beekeeping is an important activity with strong support for research and development of beekeeping for pleasure and profit. Slovenia is a land of world famous beekeepers and not least the homeland of the Carniolan bee. see: http://www.apimondia2003.com/ ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 17:49:54 EST Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Lionel Evans Subject: Re: Long Term Heat effects on Honey MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A friend of mine is looking for some Eucalyptus Honey, maybe only a 1 pound jar. Where could I get some that would be close to pure? How expensive? Lionel Evans North Alabama ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 10:23:50 -0500 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Tim Vaughan Subject: Re: Long Term Heat effects on Honey There should be lots of Eucalyptus honey available within the next week or so in the coastal regions of California. The trees are blooming now, the ground is moist, and all I in particular am waiting for is a week or so of sunny weather. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 23:21:36 EST Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: GImasterBK@AOL.COM Subject: Re: Cleaning glass of observation hive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Curtis, Where do you buy "laminated" glass? What thickness? What do I ask the glass company for? Laminated Glass? Shatterproof glass? Safety glass? What is the cost, e. g. a piece 21" x 20"? I have 8 different observation hives, all made with plastic; and they are getting pretty dingy, and I'm tired of replacing the plastic. THANKS in advance. George Imirie ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 18:18:43 -0700 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Bryan Isaac Subject: Wintering bee problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am a new beekeeper with only 32 hives which I purchased recently. We = are in central Alberta and though weather has been very decent this = weather we have not had much snow until now.=20 Two days ago we had about 3 - 5 inches of snow and around a number of = the hives I noticed many dead bees ( 50 - 100 ). Have others noticed = this ? and should I be concerned ? I have one book which states that = "the intense light from snow covered ground tempts the bees to fly". = What I observed was bees from a number of hives clustered around the = upper entrance would fly out from the hive, land on the snow, struggle = for a while then die. The book suggested shading the entrances with = boards leaning on the hive which I have now done. Any comments most appreciated. Thanks Bryan ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 17:13:21 -0500 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Peter Borst Subject: Re: Apimondia 2003 Greetings I posted a message to see if anyone from USA is going to Apimondia, but I would also like to hear from anyone who is going. Also, if anyone here has been to Slovenia, I'd be grateful for any info you might be able to pass on. Thanks Peter ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 14:38:18 -0000 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Dave Cushman Subject: Re: Apimondia 2003 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi All Will any of the Apiamondia visitors from USA be stopping over in UK on their travels? Best Regards & 73s... Dave Cushman, G8MZY Beekeeping & Bee Breeding Website... http://website.lineone.net/~dave.cushman ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 10:35:54 -0500 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: "C.R. Crowell" Subject: Re: Cleaning glass of observation hive MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I obtained it from a local glass company, who probably cut it from a larger sheet that is about 1/4 of an inch thick. It may have been $50 for two sheets that cover both sides of an observation hive that holds a single brood frame. I use it a dozen or so times a year for presentations, and it requires cleaning perhaps once or twice a year. I assumed that I would only want to build one, and have it last a lifetime, also I do get asked often enough if the bees can escape, and the laminated safety glass makes a good talking point. I made my box using red oak and ash. The window panels are held in a rail and stile type frame with the frame portions unglued, so that when I remove the glass I can also remove all of the wood trim that holds the glass in place. The top of the box is held in place with two long square drive wood screws. If you like I could work up a few jpeg images to send. /Curtis ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 09:36:54 -0800 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: huestis' Subject: Re: Wintering bee problem MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Bryan, Two days ago we had about 3 - 5 inches of snow and around a number of the hives I noticed many dead bees ( 50 - 100 ). Have others noticed this ? and should I be concerned ? reply: Sounds like a cleansing flight to me. I'd leave things alone. Bees know when they need to use the toilet. Clay ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 2002 12:11:25 -0500 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Michael Palmer Subject: Re: Wintering bee problem In-Reply-To: <007701c2b0f3$376fa3c0$6e0817d1@net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed At 09:36 AM 12/31/2002 -0800, you wrote: >Hi Bryan, > >Two days ago we had about 3 - 5 inches of snow and around a number of the >hives I noticed many dead bees ( 50 - 100 ). Have others noticed this ? and >should I be concerned ? > >reply: > >Sounds like a cleansing flight to me. I'd leave things alone. Bees know >when they need to use the toilet. > >Clay It could also be the old bees dying off. Normal thing in the north to notice this early in the winter. Mike