From MAILER-DAEMON Sat Feb 28 10:24:51 2009 Return-Path: <> X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.1.8 (2007-02-13) on industrial X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-83.8 required=2.4 tests=ADVANCE_FEE_1,ADVANCE_FEE_2, AWL,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR,SPF_HELO_PASS,USER_IN_WHITELIST autolearn=disabled version=3.1.8 X-Original-To: adamf@IBIBLIO.ORG Delivered-To: adamf@IBIBLIO.ORG Received: from listserv.albany.edu (unknown [169.226.1.24]) by metalab.unc.edu (Postfix) with ESMTP id E420449053 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 10:24:50 -0500 (EST) Received: from listserv.albany.edu (listserv.albany.edu [169.226.1.24]) by listserv.albany.edu (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id n1SEr0Bj013917 for ; Sat, 28 Feb 2009 10:24:50 -0500 (EST) Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2009 10:24:50 -0500 From: "University at Albany LISTSERV Server (14.5)" Subject: File: "BEE-L LOG0605A" To: adamf@IBIBLIO.ORG Message-ID: Content-Length: 35445 Lines: 844 ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 05:06:33 -0700 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: C Hooper Subject: Cheap New Process to Extract Honey Bee Venom MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Cheap New Process to Extract Honey Bee Venom Daily News & Analysis (India), 5/1/2006 (Editor's Note: Also see Apitronic Services Bee Venom Collector Devices.) Lucknow: In a breakthrough in the field of biotechnology, a group of researchers at the Zoology department of the Allahabad University (AU) have succeeded in extracting the Indian honey bee venom and collect it in powder form. For full articles, go to: www.apitherapynews.com -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 08:59:03 -1000 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Howard McGinnis Subject: Fungi on plumeria leaves In-Reply-To: <20060501050633.84d281a5f2f7df0ef38485a84124037d.9bb386e5a2.wbe@email.secureserver.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aloha, The plumeria leaves get a orangish spotting on the underside of the leaf, which the plumeria grower says is a fungus. It's powdery and dry, like a fine dust. In late August, the grower says that there will be "thousands" of bees, collecting this substance and he's indicated that it's being stored "on their legs". The bees do not collect nectar from the plumeria (needs long tongued insect like moths). My first thought was that the fungus may be exposing sap, which could be a component in propolis, but the grower says that the plants are not affected (although in late August, the leaves fall off the tree). Any ideas on what they are collecting? Thanks, Howard in Hawaii -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 21:17:09 +0100 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Gavin Ramsay Subject: Re: Fungi on plumeria leaves MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aloha Howard Some types of rust fungus (Puccinia species) induce a combination of a floral-like appearance of the infected leaves, a sweet pungent odour and a fructose-rich secretion. Presumably the fungus gets efficient dispersal out of the deal. Here is one PDF where you can read more online, discussing Puccinia on plants in the Brassica family: http://chemicalecology.psu.edu/JournalClub/Raguso&Roy1998%20rustmimicry.pdf I don't know the species of fungal pathogens on Plumeria, but it seems likely that something similar is going on here. best wishes Gavin. -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 13:14:51 -0700 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Bee Haven Subject: Plumeria fungus MIME-version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Howard, The orange spots on the underside of Plumeria leaves are probably one = stage of plumeria rust, Coleosporium plumeriae. Three spore stages are = involved in the life cycle of this rust. The one you see now is the = urediniospore stage which produces masses of yellow to orange spores = capable of infecting other leaves on the same Plumeria or different = plants in the area. Later in the season, teliospores, which have the = same colour as urediniospores, are produced. These generate the third = spore stage, basidiospores, which initiate the cycle again. Bees may = collect uredinio- and teliospores.. =20 Steve Mitchell Bee Haven Farm Duncan, BC -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 12:27:25 -1000 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Howard McGinnis Subject: Love this list! In-Reply-To: <002401c66d5c$3a611ea0$04000005@mshome.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aloha! I love this list! I mostly lurk, but learn from the discussions on various topics. My most recent posts were on the plumeria rust and the "rogue bees" and both generated some excellent responses as well as links to sites with additional information. I know that I will never know enough about the bees, but I definitely know where to ask. A big mahalo (thanks) to you all! Howard McGinnis -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 1 May 2006 23:51:51 +0200 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Maurice Organization: prive Subject: Fw: CHLA (Beekeeping) Feedback from Maurice Kuyckx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Good Evening Beekeepers on BEE-L, >From the E.F.Philips Collection of Beebooks I was reading : Book Cowan T.W. 1540-1926; Wax craft, all about beeswax.... I found >>Page 87b= Missing page. ...Please will find the Respons from College of Agriculture and Life Sciences College of Human Ecology Cornell University fbw4@cornell.edu who can't help me! If somebody have this Beebook, please will send me this page in PDF. Thanks Maurice Kuyckx from Belgium (EU) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frances Webb" To: Sent: Monday, May 01, 2006 7:20 PM Subject: Re: CHLA (Beekeeping) Feedback from Maurice Kuyckx > > Hello Maurice, > > The page that you describe is missing from our copy of the book. We will > eventually try to find a second copy in order to supply the missing pages, > but right now we simply don't have the page. For now, you'll have to find > another copy of the book if you really need this page. > > I'm sorry we can't be more help, > > -Frances > > Frances Webb > Programmer/Analyst > College of Agriculture and Life Sciences > College of Human Ecology > Cornell University > (607)255-7705 > > At 12:04 PM 4/29/2006, maurice.kuyckx@telenet.be wrote: >>============================================================= >>COMMENTS >> We gratulate for your e-Books. >>Book Cowan T.W. 1540-1926; Wax craft, all about beeswax.... >>Page 87b= Missing page. Please send this page in PDF. >>Thanks Maurice Kuyckx from Belgium (EU) > > > -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 2 May 2006 15:56:20 -0700 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: William Sharp Subject: netting for a small pickup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, I am a 2nd yr beekeeper with a problem... I want to move some bees (7 hives) about 60 miles from where i caught the swarms to my wife's family farm. I want to move them without screening the entrances, but i want a bee net that i can put on them if i break down. I have contacted a maker of bee nets and they want the following specs: length, width and drop on the sides, also whether i want ends sewed in-i.e. boxed or flapped. I was wondering if anyone could help me with this ( i will get the dimensions, but i am talking about a small pickup truck on which i can haul hives (maybe a dozen or so, ideally the netting would extend over the back end) any ideas would be welcome. I am in the shenandoah valley of virginia Bill Sharp -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 12:15:07 +0100 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Robin Dartington Subject: Re: Fw: CHLA (Beekeeping) Feedback from Maurice Kuyckx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: "Maurice" > Book Cowan T.W. 1540-1926; Wax craft, all about beeswax.... > I found >>Page 87b= Missing page. I could send a photocopy if you give a postal address - don't knpw about pdf's. Robin Dartington -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 08:34:03 -0400 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Aaron Morris Subject: FW: [BEE-L] netting for a small pickup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This message was originally submitted by fldr_geo@YAHOO.COM to the BEE-L list at LISTSERV.ALBANY.EDU. It was edited to remove quotes of previously posted material. > -----Original Message----- > From: george fielder [mailto:fldr_geo@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, May 03, 2006 7:41 AM > To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology > Subject: Re: [BEE-L] netting for a small pickup > > > Hi Bill and all > > I love zippers! At corners or to suit your convenience. > > I also like elastic inserted inside bottom seam of the > screen. The elastic has tape or cord at end so does not > gather the seam when the ties are released but are quite snug > when the cords are pulled and tied. I use same on a small > utility trailer that I have for moving my hives. > > Best regards. > George -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 23:12:56 -0400 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Aaron Morris Subject: FW: [BEE-L] netting for a small pickup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This message was originally submitted by beekeeper@NUVOX.NET to the = BEE-L list at LISTSERV.ALBANY.EDU. It was edited to remove quotes of previously = posted material. ________________________________ From: beekeeper [mailto:beekeeper@nuvox.net] Sent: Wed 2006.05.03 22:07 To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Subject: Re: [BEE-L] netting for a small pickup If you can get an old trampoline that is on longer in use, cut it to fit your hives that you are hauling, this works fine and the cost is low. = You can even cut it to fit each hive or over the hole lot. That's one way to = do it. Ed Paisley -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 3 May 2006 21:07:55 -0700 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Mike Stoops Subject: Re: netting for a small pickup In-Reply-To: <20060502225620.8667.qmail@web53115.mail.yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit William Sharp wrote:I want to move some bees (7 hives) about 60 miles from where i caught the swarms to my wife's family farm. I want to move them without screening the entrances, but i want a bee net that i can put on them if i break down. Unless you are really worried about a breakdown on the trip I would just load them up after dark, with the motor running on the truck, haul them to your new site with the stands already set up for recieving the hives, and offload. You will have crawling bees but not to a really great extent unless you really jostle them. Get someone to help lift and shift, i.e. move the hives onto and off of the truck, and move them. Be sure to wear good bee protection clothing. That's about the only time that I wear gloves and strap the ankles of my pants. Moved a hive last night and some fell off onto my right shoe. Take it from me, bees crawl up. You should not have to have the expense of buying a bee net to move just 60 miles or so. Even a four hour move at night would not need netting. Just keep the motor running if you stop. The vibration pretty well keeps the bees from running too much and they don't fly at night unless there is a bright light to fly to. Mike in LA (Lower Alabama) --------------------------------- Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 01:31:54 -0400 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Dick Allen Subject: artificial compound eye Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit This might be of some passing interest: http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20060501/insecteye_tec.html http://www.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/abstract/312/5773/557 Regards, Dick Allen -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 11:52:10 +0000 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Jo=E3o=20Campos?= Subject: Delaying honey crystallization by temporary cooling In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi all, I was reviewing some literature about reversing honey crystallization yesterday, when I read something that surprised me. I wouldn't even pay much attention to that, if it were not in a book edited by Eva Crane (Honey, A Comprehensive Survey). In a topic about delaying crystallization, it is stated that, if honey is kept for 5 weeks at 0ºC, and then at 14ºC (the ideal temperature for crystallization), the crystallization process can be delayed for 2 years. An experience is reported as a support for this claim - two samples of the same honey were kept in different conditions, one as stated above, and the other skipping the temporary cooling phase. While the first showed no sign of crystallization in 2 years, the second crystallized in 5 weeks. No explanation is given for such temporary cooling effect, and I cannot find one by myself. If it really worked, it would be great to many beekeepers who deal with consumers that dislike crystallized honey and don't want to have their honey heated. Can anybody confirm/refute this method? Best regards. João Campos _______________________________________________________ Novidade no Yahoo! Mail: receba alertas de novas mensagens no seu celular. Registre seu aparelho agora! http://br.mobile.yahoo.com/mailalertas/ -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 08:08:44 -0400 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: "Lackey, Raymond J (US SSA)" Subject: netting for a small pickup MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit On Long Island we have a lot of pools. One of the covers offered is a very strong screen. (Supports an elephant! What an elephant would be doing in their back yard, I don't know. Really it is a safety issue, keeps little kids from falling in.) We can often find someone with a pool preparing to replace their screen. If you ever notice someone with a screen pool cover you can put your dibs in "When it comes time to replace your cover, I could use it for a bee screen." People seem to think that this second life for the screen is interesting. (They get thrown out for broken straps on edge, a little tear, or because they have "faded".) I have also used the old vinyl liners as weed block under hives. Just ask a pool owner having it replaced to have it cut in 10' wide strips and you'll pick it up. Tough stuff! Then, as said before, shape to your load. I have pulled big, nylon zippers from pop-up camper canvases being thrown out. (My popup being retired was 33 years old but zippers slide well, only used for installation and removal.) Sorry, but I'm cheap and enjoy tinkering. If you . As the old saying goes: "If you don't spend it, you don't have to earn it!" ;) Raymond J. Lackey Sweet Pines Apiary Long Island Beekeepers Association ~20 colonies (honey production & pollination) >20 years experience web page: http://www.tianca.com/tianca2.html email home: lackeyray@tianca.com -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 4 May 2006 08:48:24 -0400 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Peter John Keating Subject: Re: Delaying honey crystallization by temporary cooling MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I have tried this method and it did not work. There must be a time limit between the extraction of the honey and the freezing. Peter Keating > In a topic about delaying crystallization, it is stated that, if > honey is kept for 5 weeks at 0ºC, and then at 14ºC (the ideal > temperature for crystallization), the crystallization process can be > delayed for 2 years. -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 5 May 2006 05:58:10 -0700 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: C Hooper Subject: Antioxidants in Honey Comparable to Those in Fruits and Vegetables MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/plain; CHARSET=US-ASCII Antioxidants in Honey Comparable to Those in Fruits and Vegetables Like Your Tea Sweet? Add Honey Instead of Sugar PRWeb, 5/5/2006 A study published in the Journal of Agricultural and Food Chemistry, shows that the level of antioxidants of honey is comparable to that of many fruits and vegetables... For full article, go to: www.apitherapynews.com -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 10:21:10 -0400 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Bill Truesdell Subject: Interesting blog MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit An interesting blog on a visit to Drapers. http://www.deanesmay.com/posts/1146755716.shtml Bill Truesdell Bath, Maine -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 22:18:31 +0300 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Roger White Subject: Illegal importations of queens in the EU Comments: To: Andreas Thrasyvoulou MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dear Beekeeping Colleague, Information reached me last night that illegal importations of queens = from Texas in the USA are being made into Spain, Portugal and France. = The total number of queens could be as high as 100,000. The conditions = and certification requirements of the European Union have been made to = prevent imports being made from the continental USA in order to prevent = the introduction into Europe of the Small Hive Beetle (Aethina tumida) = and Africanised bees which would be a disaster for the beekeeping = industry in Europe. =20 The importers, exporters and airline that carry the bees are all acting = illegally as the USA is unable to satisfy the certification conditions = of the European Union and the countries involved are not applying EU = directive conditions for imports from third countries. Needless to say = these imports need to be stopped as soon as possible even though it is = probably too late. Please make representations to your authorities and = beekeeping associations so that the problem is presented to the = officials of the European Union so that action can be taken. Best regards Roger White Superbee bees Cyprus. -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 11:37:11 -0600 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Bryan Isaac Subject: Problem seeing eggs and larvae MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello all, I've been a lurker for four years and have learned much valuable advice from the list. My question involves seeing eggs and just hatched larvae. I have taken a queen rearing course (last year) and was frustrated that I couldn't find the larvae (except by chance) to graft. At home I tried grafting by setting up a table with two halogen lamps, and wearing a magnifying visor but still was having real difficulty. This year I tried the Hopkins method (Case method) of rearing and had the same problem. I held the frame up with sun coming over my shoulder but couldn't find any larvae. I had seen the queen moving about this frame and watched her deposit eggs (I assume) in two cells before I put the frame back. Today I took the frame for queen rearing and the only thing I was sure of was that there was a circular pattern of pollen and I just guessed that there were eggs in the circle. I know this seems like I might just have poor eyesight but I was wondering if anyone on the list has experienced the same and what some methods might be to help me out. I appreciate any and all advice. Bryan -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 20:00:25 -0400 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: George Fergusson Subject: Re: Problem seeing eggs and larvae In-Reply-To: <445E3047.2020502@xplornet.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Bryan- Seeing eggs and larvae is all about lighting and contrast, assuming your eyes have the resolution necessary to resolve them in the first place. It can be tricky. My eyes are bad enough that I need help some, but not all of the time: http://www.sweettimeapiary.com/pics/lenses.jpg My dentist gave them to me, I'm sure they're expensive if you have to buy them. Spotting young larvae can be hard because they're white and floating in a pool of white. Again, it seems to be a lighting issue. If you're having trouble, adjust the light. Get someone who can spot them point out the cells where there are eggs or larvae so you won't be guessing. George- Bryan Isaac wrote: > Hello all, > I've been a lurker for four years and have learned much valuable advice > from the list. My question involves seeing eggs and just hatched larvae. -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 21:20:10 -0400 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Aaron Morris Subject: Re: Illegal importations of queens in the EU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This message was originally submitted by malka@MILLIC.COM.AR to the = BEE-L list at LISTSERV.ALBANY.EDU. It was edited to remove quotes of previously = posted material. ________________________________ From: Martin Braunstein [mailto:malka@millic.com.ar] Sent: Sun 2006.05.07 18:25 To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Subject: Re: [BEE-L] Illegal importations of queens in the EU Hi all, I am the owner & operator of MALKA QUEENS, a queen exporter located in Argentina. Since 1999 I am shipping queens to many European Union (EU) countries. I was indeed surprise to read the message of Mr. Roger White. The = current European Union legislation regulating the import of queen bees is = Decision 2005/60/CE. It clearly excludes any importation of live bees coming from = the continental US. Hawaii is obviously not included in this restriction and = is therefore permitted to ship queens to any EU contry. I really don`t see how someone could make a =ABlegal=BB importation of continental American queens into Europe by airfreight in huge quantities = -as mentioned by Mr. White in his post- without drawing the attention of veterinary officers at the airports of entry. EU import controls at the border are very strict and in my impression extremely hard to bypass. When any shipment of live bees arrives to any European airport, it must = go through the veterinary inspection services performed by what is called =ABBorder Inspection Post=BB (BIP). I can assure Mr. White that the veterinarians in charge of this checks are totally aware of the current legislation. They would not only stop any shipment from the US, but also any shipment from any = country not listed in Decision 79/542/CE which details the the number countries allowed to export live animals to the EU. By the way, according to another EU Regulation (282/2004) any = importation of live animals into the EU must be pre-alerted with several days of anticipation by fax to the (BIP) with a document entitled =ABCommon = Veterinary Entry Document - Animals=BB (CVED-A). Failing to do this might mean = either the reexportation of the animals upon arrival, their sacrifice or a heavy = fine in the best of scenarios. This pre-alert also allows the vets to confirm = or deny the permit of entrance. I don`t know of any major European airline = who will accept a shipment of live animals, unless the BIP had already = issued an approval of entrance. Mr. White, you can rest in peace! Regards, Martin Braunstein www.malkaqueens.com -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 8 May 2006 08:00:46 +0800 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Peter Detchon Subject: Re: Problem seeing eggs and larvae MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Bryan's problem in visualising young larvae of the correct age for = grafting, ie 12 hours post hatching, is quite common and has been the = trigger for many beekeepers adopting the removable plug type systems = such as the Jenter system. However, the advent of black plastic = foundation and the use of the soft tapered quill type grafting tool = (Chinese-type) has made grafting sooo much easier! The rules are very = simple. 1) Confine your breeder queen for 12 hours to a single frame = which has been cleaned and polished by workers in another part of the = hive and is ready for her to lay in. 2) Feed this colony throughout the = process with thin sugar syrup (2 parts water : 1 part sugar) starting = 12-24 hours before you graft. 3) Use this frame to graft from on the 4th = day after grafting, and you don't even need to see the larvae you graft! = Just slide the extended tip of the tool down the side of the cell to the = bottom. It will curve around the cell base under the pool of royal jelly = on which the tiny larva is floating. Then lift the tool out and reverse = the process in your cell cup using the bamboo "pusher" to move the royal = jelly (and larva) off the tool and onto the base of the cell cup. When = you have finished grafting your cell bar of 8 to 12 cell cups you can = then move it to the angle required to see your tiny larvae floating on = the surface. Obviously there are many other aspects of the queen rearing process = which need to be addressed correctly for a good result, but Bryan has = drawn attention simply to his difficulty with grafting due to the = visualisation problem. A final tip...practice makes perfect...keep at it Bryan. Peter Detchon Western Australia -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 20:17:21 -0500 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Will Crow Subject: Re: Problem seeing eggs and larvae MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Bryan, When using the Hopkin's method of queen rearing, it shouldn't be absolutely necessary to identify eggs and young larvae as long as you follow the recommended procedures. It would be of importance but not completely necessary. Follow the procedures here: http://www.beesource.com/POV/hayes/abjmay91.htm Good luck, Will -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 21:37:43 -0400 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Keith Benson Subject: Re: Problem seeing eggs and larvae In-Reply-To: <445E8A19.5030908@sweettimeapiary.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit George Fergusson wrote: > http://www.sweettimeapiary.com/pics/lenses.jpg > > My dentist gave them to me, I'm sure they're expensive if you have to > buy them. They are not cheap at all - you must be his favorite patient. Keith -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info --- ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 7 May 2006 11:14:22 -0500 Reply-To: Informed Discussion of Beekeeping Issues and Bee Biology Sender: BEE-L@listserv.albany.edu From: Bob Harrison Subject: Re: Illegal importations of queens in the EU MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-7" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Roger, I am afraid you are victim of a hoax. However I will give you the benefit of the doubt but need a bit more information if possible. If you can provide privately specific information about the Texas beekeepers suspected of the export by private email I will look into the problem. Your post is too general for us to even look into. > The total number of queens could be as high as 100,000. "could be"????? Your information source is suspect until he/she can provide at least some dates/airlines/shippers and receivers. If you consider the alleged queens were shipped in 500 queen battery boxes then we are talking 200 shipments. The scale of the alleged queen import and from Texas make me suspect a hoax. What time of year? >The importers, exporters and airline that carry the bees are all acting illegally Maybe airlines if listed as bees but not if sent in say "tropical fish" boxes. Airlines assume little responsibility for freight content. >Needless to say these imports need to be stopped as soon as possible even though it is probably too late. I have got contacts which would look into the alleged situation but need a bit more information to go on. "If" these queens are being shipped in a manner other than as *queens in battery boxes* then we need specific information to start a search to stop the alleged problem. Sincerely, Bob Harrison -- Visit www.honeybeeworld.com/bee-l for rules, FAQ and other info ---