From SYSAM@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDUMon May 22 07:16:20 1995 Date: Mon, 22 May 95 08:35:44 EDT From: Aaron Morris To: dicka@cuug.ab.ca ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 3 Sep 1991 20:23:22 -0400 Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: MILNE@WSUVM1.BITNET Fellow Honey Bee Researcher: In an effort to improve the lot of honey bee molecular geneticists, I am starting a THoney Bee Molecular Genetics NewsletterU in January 1992. It will be a quarterly newsletter that will be worldwide in its distribution, and deal primarily with the molecular genetics of Apis mellifera, although mention of other species will not be forbidden! The goals of this newsletter will be to: 1) increase communication between researchers, 2) increase cooperation among researchers, 3) increase awareness of published work, and 4) compile a list of researchers and their interests. Toward this end, the newsletter will include in each issue short descriptions of research projects, short reviews, lists of researchers and their areas of interest, lists of published papers of interest, letters to the editor, and news (conferences, etc.). The newsletter will be free to those interested. If you are interested in receiving this newsletter, please indicate your interest by sending to me; 1) your name, address and phone number, 2) your FAX number, 3) your BITNET or e-mail address, 4) a short (20-50 word) description of your honey bee molecular genetics interests. These will be compiled and appear in the inaugural issue in January 1992. Pass this information to anyone else that may be interested. Do not reply to me on the BEE-L bulletin board. Send it to my BITNET address. Charles Milne Department of Entomology Washington State University Pullman WA 99164-6432 (509) 335-2141 FAX (509) 335-1009 BITNET MILNE@WSUVM1 ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 4 Sep 1991 19:17:18 EST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: Peter Kevan Subject: entomo-l For anyone trying to access ENTOMO-L recently, we have had a minor glitch which is now overcome. That started on 8 August, and was onyl detected yesterday. Sorry for any inconvenience and frustration. Cheers, Peter. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 5 Sep 1991 14:20:49 +0200 Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: EISIK@TAUNOS.BITNET Subject: Re: entomo-l In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 4 Sep 1991 19:17:18 EST Dear Peter, Hope that you are all fine, have you already moved to the new buildi ng?best wishes to Sheren, is she working Glitch is probably derived from Yiddish can you check it?and I did not know that it used in english as well . Cheers , Dini. ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1991 21:59:09 EST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: MacPhil Subject: Smithsonian The September issue of the _Smithsonian_ has as one of the cover entries: "Killer Bees get a Bum Rap?". It's on p. 116 and is quite lengthy. It is by Sue Humbell (sp?) and talks about the positive aspects of "killer bees" and how they have perhaps been maligned by the press. I believe the actual title is something like "How about calling killer bees 'bravo' ?" I didn't purchase it off of the newsstand but did see it and thought I'd pass along the reference. I hope someone can make use of this in some way... MacPhil | iqti400@indycms.bitnet | iqti400@indycms.iupui.edu ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1991 01:33:48 -0700 Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: Paul Chi-Jen Cheng Subject: Buzzing in Windows Background... Hello, I'm back... Here's the question of the month... Does anyone out there know where there is a .bmp or a .gif graphics picture of bees (Apis)? I am interested in putting it as the background on an IBM- compatible running Windows 3.0. An ftp site would be preferrable, although if any of you out there have one on your hard disks... So far, I have only found one .gif file on wuarchive.wustl.edu, and it does not look too hot. It only has 16 colors. Just as long as we're in the "video" mood, does anyone know of a good place to get a PAL --> NTSC translation (European/Chinese television standard --> U.S. standard)? Definition of "good" is a high quality to cost ratio as a function of distance (in km) from Davis (near Sacramento, CA). My professor has a VHS videotape from China that is in PAL format that she needs converted to NTSC, and I don't think our campus has the facilities to do this conversion. Paul =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= >< Paul Chi-Jen Cheng, Genetics >< Computing Services, Student Operator >< >< "Eggs and sperm are my life." >< University of California, Davis >< =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1991 14:08:39 CDT Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: "Dr. James H. Hunt" Subject: Re: Smithsonian In-Reply-To: Message of Fri, 6 Sep 1991 21:59:09 EST from I had already heard about the article but haven't yet seen it. I plan to check it out. I can add some contextual information about the author. Sue Hubbell is the author of two books, "A Country Year" (which I have read) and "A Book of Bees -- and How to Keep Them" (which I have not). She once lived in New York City in a corporate lifestyle of some sort. Following divorce, she moved at middle age to the Ozarks a few hours southwest of here and took up commercial beekeeping (known locally as "the bee lady"). She marketed her honey to tony outlets, including (I believe) Neiman Marcus in Dallas. "A Country Year" includes some pleasant anecdotes about her honey business and beekeeping. The books came out nearly simultaneously a couple of years ago, and she got good local press and reviews about them. I heard, but don't know for sure, that she has since moved back to New York. My only a priori expectation on the "Smithsonian" piece is that it will be well written. I highly recommend "A Country Year" as a cozy fireside read. - Jim Hunt ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1991 09:22:00 EST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: AZIMMERMAN@OCVAXC.BITNET Subject: Re: Smithsonian Excerpts from A Country Year appeared in a three (I think) part in the New Yorker a few years ago. They really were wonderfully written. Take a look at it if you can. Michael Zimmerman ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1991 09:50:00 PST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: KIRK VISSCHER Subject: Honey bee biology films I am looking for good films to show to a class in bees and beekeeping. Do any of you have favorites I should look at? Also, please include the sources for these if you know them. Thanks. You can reply privately to me at VISSCHER@UCRVMS, or post it to BeeL, since this may be of some interest to others. P. Kirk Visscher Dept. of Entomology University of California Riverside, CA 92521 BITNET: VISSCHER@UCRVMS ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1991 12:52:37 EST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: EVBKEVAN@VM.UOGUELPH.CA Subject: Jokes Does anyone have a fund of apicultural/bee-keeping jokes, limmericks, poems, cartoons, etc which they would be willing to share? What is a typical breakfast for a beekeeper? I'll tell you later! Cheers, Peter ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 9 Sep 1991 15:07:00 EDT Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: KWADDING@UMIAMI.BITNET Subject: Re: Honey bee biology films Kirk, You might try "The Life Cycle of a Honey Bee", Films for the Humanities, Inc., Box 2053, Princeton, NJ 08540. The quality is mixed, but the film is worth checking for your needs. Keith ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1991 13:41:00 -0300 Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: RAINER%VORTEX.UFRGS.BR@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Subject: Painting bees Porto Alegre, 12 September 1991 In the National Geographic article (vol 179, no 6, June 1991) by Michael E. Long about "Secrets of Animal Navigation" there is a photograph showing F C Dyer from Michigan State University brushing honeybees with a pink pigment. Does anybody know what pigment it is and where I can get it? Or does anybody have suggestions how to make even smaller (stingless) bees more visible during flight? Thank you. Rainer Radtke ----------------------------------------------------------------- Rainer Radtke PUC, Lab. Pesq. Biologicas Av. Ipiranga, 6681 90.620 Porto Alegre, RS Bitnet: Rainer@SBU.UFRGS.ANRS.BR Brasil ---------------------------------------------------------------- ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 12 Sep 1991 17:13:00 CDT Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: 815 John Naples 753-9444 Subject: Africanized bee article The current (Sept 16, 1991) issue of _The New Yorker_ has an article about Africanized bees. The reporter is not a bee person, and I (several years ago I kept a few hives) found some errors in what he wrote, but some of what he said about the situation was interesting. Apparently Brazilian beekeepers now much prefer the new bees (especially the higher output), though most of the previous beekeepers no longer do so. Those with more knowledge might like to see what is being said. John Naples ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1991 09:12:00 EDT Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: di5 Subject: Re: Painting bees In-Reply-To: <9109130145.AA04670@umail.UMD.EDU> I can't recall the picture, but it is probably one of the fluorescent powders that many pollination biologists here use to mark insects or mimic pollen. Sources in the U. S. include Day-Glo Color Corp., Radiant Color Corp., and Shannon Luminescence. Particle size is about 5-6 microns, price about $7/pound from manufacturers (if they will sell that small an amount), more from retailers. David Inouye ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 13 Sep 1991 17:23:00 EDT Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: di5 Subject: post-doc candidate Someone passed on to me a letter from a German graduate student who is interested in pursuing a postdoc in the U.S.A. He has worked since 1987 with bumblebees at the Philipps Universitat in Marburg, on systematics, morphometrics, and foraging ecology of bumblebees. If you would like to know more, contact him: Karlheinz Debus Radestrasse 12 W-3550 Marburg, Germany telephone 06421/14186 ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1991 09:27:00 EDT Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: MTS@IFASGNV.BITNET Subject: SEPTEMBER ISSUE OF APIS FILENAME: SEPAPIS.91 Florida Extension Beekeeping Newsletter Apis--Apicultural Information and Issues (ISSN 0889-3764) Volume 9, Number 9, September 1991 BUDGET BLUES The newspapers here in Gainesville are full of governmental spending cuts. To many, singing the budget blues may seem nothing more than a perennial rite of beleaguered bureaucracies. And often it's difficult to measure the impact of funding reductions. Not so this year. The University of Florida at the present time does not have enough cash on hand to cover summer school session A. The Institute of Food and Agricultural Sciences (IFAS) has lost over 30 faculty and 39 staff in research, as well as 8 state-wide extension and 18 county faculty positions. The Department of Entomology and Nematology, which just moved into a brand new building, also continues to suffer. Funding for Instructional purposes dropped fifty percent in the 1990-91 fiscal year and a further 30% this year. The amount dedicated to research is half what it was last year. Meanwhile extension funding has been reduced over 60% the last two fiscal years. It is important to recognize that this is for the respective operating budgets only. The reductions do not reflect other costs like salaries, but directly affect the potential quality and quantity of programs in teaching, research and extension or outreach possible from the University. This budgetary reduction invariably means less resources will go into apicultural extension programming. At present, printing has been halted for all but one circular published by Cooperative Extension which relate to apiculture and that one remains doubtful. These booklets originally were and continue to be distributed for free. Once supplies are exhausted, however, they will only be made available as copy machine facsimiles: Florida Bee Botany (No. 686; Protecting Honey Bees From Pesticides (No. 534); Diseases and Pests of the Honey Bee (No. 766); Florida Beekeeping Almanac (No. 537); and A Study in Profitability for a Mid-Sized Beekeeping Operation (No. 722). A few copies of the above publications may still be available from county Cooperative Extension Offices around the state. I also have a limited number of Florida Bee Botany, which because of its color pictures, is more difficult to duplicate on copy machines. If you wish a copy, drop me a line. The others, however, I am now forced to charge for because copying is the only way to make them available. Make a check payable to Department of Entomology/Nematology; tell me which ones you want. They are $3.00 each. In addition, as stated in the July issue of this newsletter, I will continue to make available at $6.00 each copies of the recently published Agriculture Handbook 690, Diagnosis of Honey Bee Diseases. This is also available from the National Technical Information Service, Springfield, VA 22161, for $17.00. SOFTWARE OFFERING The new edition of the IFAS Microcomputer Software Catalog has been published. Program No. 43, "A Profitability Model for a Mid- Sized Beekeeping Operation," continues to be listed in this publication. It is available at a cost of $25.00 (in-state) and $35.00 (out-of-state). It runs on IBM compatible computers (MSDOS) and requires the user to have a copy of Multiplan (R) to read the sheets. To order, send a check payable to University of Florida to IFAS Software Support, Bldg. 120, Room 203, University of Florida, Gainesville, FL 32611-0162, ph 904/392-7853. Be sure to indicate the number and title of the program you want and the diskette size (3 1/2 or 5 1/4 inch). BEEKEEPERS INSTITUTE A smaller-than-normal, enthusiastic crowd assembled last month for the Florida Beekeepers Institute at 4-H Camp Ocala. Presentations on the progress of the African honey bee and the Varroa mite situations in Florida headlined the event. Dr. Keith Delaplane from the University of Georgia was also in attendance. He provided information on the status of mite and wax moth damage in his state and efforts to control these pests. It is not easy to capture on paper the excitement of the Beekeepers Institute; you must be there to experience it for yourself. Below are the comments a long-time Institute supporter, Mr. Vern Davis, made at the 10th annual event in 1966: "I believe each succeeding Institute has been better than the previous one. To me each has been a rewarding experience. What has been the cost of the Institute? Very small when compared to the great value of information and ideas taken away by those attending. The personal contacts and friendships made, I am sure, have been invaluable to you, as well as me. Each time we leave, we are full of enthusiasm and are determined to become not only better but more efficient beekeepers. Where can one go at such small cost to talk bees to his heart's content? These huts are huming (sic) two o'clock in the morning with bee talk." The next Beekeepers Institute is scheduled for August 21-23, 1992 at 4-H Camp Ocala. More information on registration will be forthcoming in future issues of this newsletter. I hope to see you there. AFRICAN BEE ALTERNATIVES At a recent meeting of the Tampa Bay Beekeepers Association, there were a lot of glum faces. These were caused by a discussion of what many beekeepers will be faced with when the African honey bee arrives. The participants at that meeting urged me to write something that would be upbeat and positive about this overdefensive insect. This is a tall order. Chance will play a big role in how the situation surrounding the African honey bee develops. This is why prognostications by experts may or may not have validity. There are many ifs (unknowns) in the African bee equation and they will change as the situation evolves. On top of this is the fact that the bee itself is variable and may behave in an unpredictable manner further complicating the issue. As I wrote in an article in the December, 1989 issue of APIS, much will depend on whether beekeepers perceive the apicultural cup as half empty or half full when the bee arrives. In Latin America, for example, the proliferation of wild African bees now means a free resource (wild swarms and nests) is available which was not the case before. This may also be true in subtropical Florida. However, the public relations aspects of keeping wild bees will be significantly different than in most of Latin America. Alternatives that some beekeepers might look to in the face of a wild honey bee population concern removing the insects from sensitive areas. Beyond marketing such services in urban areas (removing bees from houses), a trapping technology exists which can be marketed to large firms. Maintaining and running bee trap lines around the many theme parks of Florida come to mind. This has been done in industrial parks in Brazil with some success. Consulting in the training of fire, police and others who will be called by the public to remove nuisance bees is also a possibility. This will require some rethinking and retooling of skills. The beekeeper-would-be-bee-remover might have to adhere to rules of the professional pest control operator. Most present pest control operations avoid honey bee jobs because they can be so complicated; this leaves the field open to a specialist beekeeper. Those who wish to continue keeping bees as usual will also have to rethink many aspects of their activities. The successful beekeeper of the future may in fact be more of a public relations expert. The message that will have to be drilled into the public's head is that managed colonies of docile honey bees will be the first line of defense against the wild, overdefensive African kind. This will mean a constant job of educating neighbors and public officials about the value of keeping bees in urban and rural areas to compete with wild populations. Part of this effort could well be to make one's services as a bee consultant available to public officials who will need good advice about matters involving nuisance colonies and swarms. Here you could become assertive, wearing a white hat by taking the lead in community efforts to control "unwanted" bees. The latter practice was advocated in an article entitled, "Civil Obedience," in the July issue of Gleanings in Bee Culture. It suggests that if a community does not have an ordinance dealing with honey bees, local beekeepers should help draft one. This is a two-edged sword and must be approached carefully, however, if the strategy is to be successful and not backfire. The article, along with a copy of a model ordinance developed for Texas, is available by sending a stamped, self-addressed envelope to Ordinance, P.O. Box 706, Medina, OH 44256. Another "proactive" strategy the industry as a whole can consider is developing a Code of Practice. This is true in other areas of the world as well. According to the June, 1991 issue of Buzzwords, the newsletter of the New Zealand National Beekeepers Association, an important reason for contemplating a code of practice is that some beekeepers are reporting difficulties with local government. Some councils, the newsletter continues, are charging license fees of NZ $35.00 per hive (and no disease inspection, thank you) while in town. Local authority inspectors are rumored to be using the public nuisance by-law to remove all beehives located within municipal boundaries. A code of practice is seen as an effective counter to such problems, because councils tend to use them as the basis for local body legislation. The article concludes: "The question your executive is asking, however, is what should be included in such a code." In an effort to find out what a U.S. code might include, groups have met and documents have been published. A significant event will occur October 24-26 in St. Louis, Missouri. USDA and the National Association of State Departments of Agriculture (NASDA) will meet along with industry representatives to hammer out guidelines for a model honey bee certification plan. One basis for this is a document published last February entitled: Honey Bee Pests--A Threat to the Vitality of U.S. Agriculture, subtitled, A National Strategy. Another document published by the Apiary Inspectors of America, A National Honey Bee Certification Proposal, will also be discussed in St. Louis. I have copies of these documents and will send them for $6.00, checks made payable to Department of Entomology/Nematology. For more information about the meeting, contact Dr. Hachiro Shimanuki, ph 301/344-2205. Registration is $20.00 before September 23, thereafter it is $30.00. Send payment to Mr. Joe Francka, Missouri Dept. of Agriculture, P.O. Box 630, Jefferson City, MO 65102. For hotel accommodations, ph 314/621-8200. STATE BEEKEEPERS MEETING The Florida State Beekeepers Association will meet November 7- 9 in Gainesville at the Hilton Hotel. The event begins with the traditional fish fry on Thursday night provided by personnel of the Division of Plant Industry under the guidance of Laurence Cutts. Friday there will be formal presentations in the morning with a business meeting in the afternoon. The featured speaker will be Dr. John Harbo of the USDA Honey Bee Breeding and Genetics Laboratory, Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Tours of the new Entomology Building on the University of Florida campus as well as the Doyle Conner Building are planned for Saturday. For more information on the event, contact Ms. Eloise Cutts, 2237 NW 16th Ave., Gainesville, FL 32605, ph 904/378-7719. REMEMBER SEPTEMBER Remember that September is National Honey Month. A line of distinctive advertising items is available from the National Honey Board to keep your customers coming back for more. These include recipes, brochures, clip art and the new cooking video, "Just Add Honey." For more information, contact the Board, 421 21st Ave. #203, Longmont, CO 80501-1421, ph 303/776-1177. NEW BUILDING DEDICATION The Entomology/Nematology Department's new building will be dedicated October 11, 1991. The Featured speaker is Dr. Murray Blum from the University of Georgia. The ceremony will begin 10:00 a.m. Several other functions are also planned. For further information on this event, contact Sheila Eldridge, Department of Entomology/Nematology, University of Florida, Gainesville, FL 32611-0740, ph 904/392-1801, ext. 110. Sincerely, Malcolm T. Sanford 0740 IFAS, Bldg 970 University of Florida Gainesville, FL 32611-0740 Phone (904) 392-1801, Ext. 143 FAX: 904-392-0190 BITNET Address: MTS@IFASGNV INTERNET Address: MTS@GNV.IFAS.UFL.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1991 09:52:00 PST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: KIRK VISSCHER Subject: bee jokes Well, Peter, we are all on the edge of our seats waiting to find out what is a typical breakfast for a beekeeper. Meanwhile, I will dig in my fund of admittedly pretty awful bee jokes... Q: how do beekeepers shoo annoying bees? I'll reveal the answer after breakfast. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1991 14:07:00 EDT Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: di5 Subject: Re: bee jokes In-Reply-To: <9109241654.AA08969@umailsrv0.UMD.EDU> Does anyone have any jokes related to pollination biology? ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1991 12:41:00 PST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: KIRK VISSCHER Subject: pollination jokes a joke for every purpose! Let's see...Pollination... Q: What did the bee say to to the flower? Now, you didn't say GOOD jokes related to pollination biology did you? OK... A: Hey bud, what time do you open? Well, surely the collective creativity of Bee-L can improve on THAT! ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 24 Sep 1991 12:44:00 PST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: KIRK VISSCHER Subject: pollination jokes Actually, the best jokes I know related to pollination are practical jokes, perpetrated by the orchids. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1991 07:48:57 EST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: "P.Kevan" Subject: JOKES It seems that apiculturalists are rather a serious group of people: Kirk's jokes are well appreciated here. Well, now: THE BEEKEEPER'S BREAKFAST IS A ROLL IN BED WITH HONEY Groan, groan, groan. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 25 Sep 1991 15:16:00 N Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology Comments: This message was sent with PMDF 3.2 From: PVE@KUB.NL Subject: Re: Jokes ..roll in bed with honey... isn't that great!! Well pipesmokers, here's another one... Hold on tight A bee came one day in a baker's shop and asked the baker "Do you have honey-cake?" Bak: "No, i'm sorry. I don't have it" Bee: "Oke. Goodbye" The next day.. Bee: "Hello, do you have honey-cake" Bak: "No, I don't have it, I'm sorry" Bee: "Oke. Goodbye" This happens day after day, and the baker thought 'That bee keeps on asking and asking about a honey-cake every day. He must be crazy at it. I make several honey-cakes for that bee. Wauw, this is gonna be big business.!!:' So the next day the bee came in: Bee: " Hello, do you have honey-cakes" Bak: "YES, YES I have honey-cake " he shouted. Bee: "Dirty hey" I propose to rename BEE-l to JOKE-l ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1991 13:45:52 TUR Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: YAVUZ DARENDELIOGLU Subject: Insect Pins... I remember, someone had asked where he can import insect pins and someone else had answered him. Sorry, for repeating the same question. I had taken that adress but I lost it. May I, ask the same question: From which adress Can I import insect pins for pinning Honeybees. I remember the Country was Austria, but don't remember the exact adress. Any help,will be greatly appreciated Yavuz Darendelioglu. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1991 07:21:53 EDT Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: Aaron Morris Subject: Shooing annoying bees... Does he tell them to buzz off? Incidently, there are many JOKE-L type lists out there. Most noteably is NUTWORKS from Tulane. To subscribe: TELL LISTSERV@TCSVM SUBSCRIBE NUTWORKS your name About the honey cakes, I don't get it.? ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1991 07:56:14 EST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: Peter Subject: Shooing bees Well, Kirk ... it's after breakfast! ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1991 10:02:00 GMT Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: Seosamh Mac Carthaigh Subject: Re: Jokes >A bee came one day in a baker's shop and asked the baker >"Do you have honey-cake?" >Bak: "No, i'm sorry. I don't have it" >Bee: "Oke. Goodbye" >The next day.. >Bee: "Hello, do you have honey-cake" >Bak: "No, I don't have it, I'm sorry" >Bee: "Oke. Goodbye" >This happens day after day, and the baker thought >'That bee keeps on asking and asking about a honey-cake every day. >He must be crazy at it. I make several honey-cakes for that >bee. Wauw, this is gonna be big business.!!:' >So the next day the bee came in: >Bee: " Hello, do you have honey-cakes" >Bak: "YES, YES I have honey-cake " he shouted. >Bee: "Dirty hey" I don't know.... can someone explain this one? This one is REALLY funny (my friend Paul Doyle of UCG, Ireland tells it).. BOY: Mammy, Mammy I got stung be a bee MAMMY: Oh dear shall I put some ointment on it? BOY: No! its already flown away! Great eh? ................................................................. Seos ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1991 09:23:04 EST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: peter Subject: Book Dear anyone, espcially in France: I am trying to find the publishers of a book: Barbier, E., 1986. La pollinisation des cultures. Pourquoi? Comment. This is eluding our library experts here at U of Guelph and I should order a copy for the library and for myself. I have actually seen a copy of the book, so I know it exists. Any assistance would be much appreciated. Thanks. Peter ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1991 16:19:00 PST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: KIRK VISSCHER Subject: jokes after breakfast Well, around here, the beekeepers don't shoo annoying bees, they just let them go barefoot. I reckon in more civilized parts, though, Buzzter Browns would be apt. While I'm on the subject, where did Noah keep the bees he brought aboard? Why, in the archives, of course. Actually I've always wondered how bees survived the flood, since it would not be possible to propagrate them from 2 individuals... ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1991 11:20:27 +0100 Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: "W.D.J. Kirk" Subject: venom I have had a serious enquiry from a bee biologist in the Ukraine. He wants to know whether there is a market for bee venom in the west. If so, where, how much and whom should he contact. He obtains large amounts it seems. Can anyone offer advice I can pass on?? William Kirk, Keele University, UK. ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 26 Sep 1991 19:20:00 -0300 Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: RAINER%VORTEX.UFRGS.BR@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDU Subject: Bee venom Porto Alegre, 27 September 1991 Does anybody know groups, especially in Europe or the States which work on Apis and non-Apis venoms? Does anybody want to orientate a Brazilian student of biology for a master thesis or Diplomarbeit about this subject? Her interests are in techniques of gaining venoms in a semi-industrial manner or applying it in human medicine. Rainer Radtke ---------------------------------------------------------------- Rainer Radtke PUC, Lab. Pesq. Biologicas Tel: 0512-391511 ramal 3280 Av. Ipiranga, 6681 Fax: 0512-391564 90.620 Porto Alegre, RS Bitnet: Rainer@VORTEX.UFRGS.BR Brasil ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1991 08:17:08 EST Reply-To: ENTOMO-L DISCUSSION LIST Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology Comments: Resent-From: EVBKEVAN@VM.UoGuelph.CA Comments: Originally-From: Karsten Schonrogge From: EVBKEVAN@VM.UOGUELPH.CA Subject: Ans.: Insect Pins ----------------------------Original message---------------------------- Hi Yavuz, I do not know about the original question or answer, but I have to adresses for entomological equipment and therefore insect pins. A) Dr. H. Winkler Fachgeschaeft und Buchhandlung fuer Entomologie Dittesgasse 11 1180 Wien - Austria - B) Hans Luehr Weissenburgstrasse 4-6 2300 Kiel - Germany - Tel.: -49/431/14337 Good Luck Karsten ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1991 09:11:00 EDT Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: MTS@IFASGNV.BITNET Subject: Re: Bee venom I have had an inquiry from probably the same person via a Brazilian in New York on this subject. For a market, I suggest calling Dr. Bradford Weeks, President of the North American Apiotherapy Society, Box 74, North Hartland, VT 05052, ph 802-295-6383...there used to be a company in Pennsylvania some years back there was a company called Vespa Labs, R.D.#1, Springs Mills Pennsylvania 16875, ph 814-422-8165. I believe it was run by a former faculty member at Penn State Univ. I published on it in the June issue of my newsletter at Ohio State University, called Beekeeping Notes...Those of you who express interest in receiving APIS on this network should know that the first issue I ever published in Ohio was in June 1978--an issue has come out almost every month since that time under the names beekeeping notes, hum of the hive (Florida) and now apis... Tom Sanford, Extension Apiculturist, University of Florida ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1991 12:39:00 EDT Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology Comments: A VAX cluster with VMS V5.3-1, PMDF V3.2-19, JNET V3.5 & UCX V1.3A From: if you want too Subject: Re: venom It would seem to me that a pharmesutical corporation would be the first to check, as people who have anaphylactic reactions can get immuno- therapy which includes(obviously) controlled doses of bee venom. Hope this helps. Bret Kulakovich ACSBK@UMASSD.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1991 11:42:00 PST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: KIRK VISSCHER Subject: venoms Here is what I know about the venom business, for what it's worth. Honey bee venom is relatively easy to collect in considerable quantity, because of the invention of the venom collector at Cornell. Benton worked on this at Cornell, and subsequently went to Penn State. He then founded a company called Vespa laboratories which specialized in the accumulation of venoms from various wasp species (perhaps only yellow-jackets), by contracting with others to collect and freeze live wasps, then dissecting out the venom sacs. Vespa labs sold its venoms to pharmaceutical companies, especially (as I recall) Pharmacia. Because of the specialized and labor-intensive nature of the collection, the venom was very expensive (especially compared with honey bee venom, which can be collected in gram quantities quite easily). Vespa Labs was a considerable commercial success. In the early '80's. Roger Morse's lab at Cornell attempted to devise means of culturing yellow-jacket wasps so that a technology like the electric-grid venom collector could be applied to them. This was not successful, as the colonies never grew very large. I have encountered several people who made considerable incomes as free-lance wasp collectors, for Vespa and I think other companies. I have also been told that the entire north american demand for honey bee venom is filled by one or a few persons using the venom collector. There is considerable pharmaceutical interest in the venoms of venomous arthropods, and quite a few researchers on the subject. Contacts would include Mike Adams here at Riverside dept. of entomology, and Justin Schmidt, who works for the USDA in Tucson, and also independently. Hope this is informative. Kirk Visscher ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1991 12:40:20 -0700 Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: Geary Wong Subject: Re: Painting bees d q q d d q q ========================================================================= Date: Sat, 28 Sep 1991 01:37:00 EDT Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: Paul Kramer Subject: Problem Solving Conference -- Call For Papers Are there Biologists out there who might be interested in teaching Problem Solving and Critical Thinking? Please forward to other lists if you think there is an interest. I am a physicist who has been watching your list for a while because I have a colleague who is a bee-keeper and I am forwarding printouts to him. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - PLEASE DISTRIBUTE PLEASE DISTRIBUTE PLEASE DISTRIBUTE - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ___________________________ | | | CALL FOR PRESENTATIONS | |___________________________| THE 1992 NATIONAL CONFERENCE on PROBLEM SOLVING ACROSS THE CURRICULUM Wells College, Aurora, New York, June 18-20, 1992. The 1992 NATIONAL CONFERENCE on PROBLEM SOLVING ACROSS THE CURRICULUM will be held at Wells College in Aurora, New York, June 18-20, 1992. The conference offers opportunities to exchange ideas about teaching problem solving and critical thinking in ALL areas of the curriculum. Presentations along the following themes are encouraged: __________________________________________________________________ \ | \ Teaching Heuristics and Modelling the Problem Solving Process | \ Developing Learning Skills in the Core Curriculum | \ Teaching and Assessing Freshman Mathematics Skills | \ Cooperative Learning -- Faculty Mentoring/Team Teaching | \ Teaching Styles and Learning Styles | \ Writing Across the Curriculum | \ Critical Thinking and Non-Quantitative Problem Solving | \ Measuring Quality in Education | \________________________________________________________| Proposals for three types of presentation are requested: 1. 20-minute discussions/demonstrations of classroom innovations, faculty development activities, and results of educational research. Use of instructional technology is strongly encouraged in these sessions. Requests should be made for special hardware/software requirements! 2. 90-minute implementation-oriented workshops. These are intended to be hands-on sessions for 10-15 conferees to explore curriculum materials and novel delivery techniques. Up to six computer labs will be available for workshops. 3. Directed discussions/brainstorming sessions centered on specific problems in higher education. Presenters will open the session by reviewing the problem and will facilitate discussion. GUIDELINES: Submit a 75-word abstract (preferably in Word Perfect on magnetic disk) suitable for the conference program booklet by January 3, 1992. Indicate the type of presentation. Acknowledgement will be given by February 22, 1992. Final papers must be submitted by May 1, 1992. Presenters will be expected to prepare a poster to be displayed in the "Hall of Innovations." Poster material will be supplied. Send abstracts to: For Registration Information: Martin Rosenzweig Sharon Gallagher Department of Mathematics SUNY Training Center Bryant College 750 E. Adams St., CWB-343 Smithfield, RI 02917 Syracuse, NY 13210 401-232-6187 315-464-4078 GALLAGSM@SNYBUFVA.BITNET - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - NOTE: If you wish to e-mail your abstract to me, I will forward it to Martin Rosenzweig. Be sure to specify that your paper is for the Problem Solving Conference; I am receiving other papers as well. Paul Kramer, KRAMERPR@SNYFARVA.BITNET, 516-271-8311 - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1991 10:54:00 EDT Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: "Stephen J. Clark" Subject: bee vision and flowers Help! I need a reference to the article(s) with the pictures of flowers as seen through human eyes and as they would appear in the electromagnetic spectrum to which bees are sensitive. Speed is of the essence. Many thanks, Steve Clark Vassar College ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 29 Sep 1991 22:35:00 EDT Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: di5 Subject: Re: bee vision and flowers In-Reply-To: <9109291455.AA00830@umailsrv0.UMD.EDU> The reference to photographing flowers in a way that mimics the way that bees see them is: McCrea, K. D. and M. Levy. 1983. Photographic visualization of floral colors as perceived by honeybee pollinators. American Journal of Botany 70:369-375. I had the reference in the bibliography of the book I'm coauthoring on techniques for use in pollination biology, so it was easy to find. David Inouye University of Maryland ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1991 09:41:01 +0100 Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: "W.D.J. Kirk" Subject: pollen Does anyone know of any work relating pollen size to the efficiency of transfer by bees? - or any other insects. I am not particularly interested in the known correlations between pollinator size and pollen size, style length, stigma depth, flower size etc. (although these may be of interest if I have not seen them before), what I am after is results of experimental studies. Is there any evidence that plants are better off with large grains than small grains when pollinated by bees - or vice versa? (leaving aside complications of buzz pollination) William Kirk Keele University, UK. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1991 07:07:42 EST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: Peter Kevan Subject: Re: bee vision and flowers In-Reply-To: Message of Sun, 29 Sep 1991 10:54:00 EDT from Most of the papers involving this subject treat UV alone and without reference to the rest of the insect visual spectrum. The problems with this approach are given in: Kevan, P. G. 1979. Vegetation and floral colors using ultraviolet light: interpretational difficulties for functional significance. Amer. J. Botany 66:749-751. For pictures and discussion: Kevan, P. G. 1972. Can. J. Botany 50: 2289 - Mulligan, G. A. & P. G. Kevan, 1973. Can J. Botany 51: 1939 - Daumer, K. 1958. Zeitschrift fur vergleichende Physiologie 41: 49 - Loew, E. R. & J. N. Lythgoe, 1985 Endeavour 14: 170 - [this paper cites neither the work of Kevan & co-workers, nor Daumer, yet presents interesting false colour images of flowers using the same colour mixing schemes as presented by Kevan and by Daumer ... it is interesting that the false colour renditions by video come very close to the hand coloured false colour renditions presented by Kevan in 1978, but without apparently recognizing that work] Kevan, P. G. 1978. In: The Pollination of Flowers by Insects. (Ed. by A.J.Richards) Linnean Soc. Symp. No. 6. Academic Press. pp. 51 - Kevan, P. G. 1983. In: The Handbook of Experimental Pollination Biology. (Ed. by C. E. Jones & R. J. Little) Scientific and Academic Publ. (Van Nostrand). pp. 3 - There are quite a number of works on the UV patterns of flowers from as far back as the 1880's. These are cited by Kevan 1972, 1978, 1983, and by Silbergleid, R. E. 1979 Annual Rev. Ecol. Systematics 10: 373 - More recent work has been published by David Inouye and Graham Pyke on the alpine flora of Australia (Aust. J. Ecol in the last two or three years). I received, very recently, a paper from Europe on the flora of part of Europe, but again it concentrated almost exclusively on UV. I'm sorry, I can not put my hands on that paper right now. It is all in German and in an obscure journal, if I remember correctly. I hope that this gives you something to go on. Oh, a very nice paper by Menzel, R. 1990 "Color vision in flower visiting insects" is available from the author: Prof. Dr. R. Menzel, Institut fur Neurobiologie Freien Universita"t Berlin Konigin-Luise-Strasse 28 - 30 1000 Berlin 33, Germany. Cheers and good luck. Peter Kevan ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1991 07:50:01 EST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: Peter Kevan Subject: Re: bee vision and flowers In-Reply-To: Message of Sun, 29 Sep 1991 22:35:00 EDT from Dave and Steve: The paper by McCrea and Levy provides for a way of visualizing the UV component of flower reflectances on colour film (slides). However UV and blue are not readily distinguished by this method and as McCrea and Levy point out, their methods must be used with great care and they outline the caveats thoroughly. Their method does not use trichromaticity principles in a rigorous sense. It is not clear that their method is any less cumbersome than any other so far used. Cheers, Peter ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1991 11:47:58 EST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: Peter Kevan Subject: Does humerous dogeral count as jokes? Nature-boy Lee was stung by a bee, Anatomically north of his knee. The lump on his rump Was a prize-winning bump And his cheeks, it appeared, numbered three. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 30 Sep 1991 09:09:00 PST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: KIRK VISSCHER Subject: jokes Q: Why is the letter A like a flower? A: Because a Bee is likely to come after it.