From SYSAM@UACSC2.ALBANY.EDUMon May 22 07:17:19 1995 Date: Mon, 22 May 95 08:37:34 EDT From: Aaron Morris To: dicka@cuug.ab.ca ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 31 Dec 1991 23:53:04 CST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: "Bee Doc Z.Huang" To All Bee Liners: Here is a Happy New Year to you, right on time, I hope. and some artsy Chinese writing for saying the same. 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Did all bee-liners retreat into the winter cluster of their families just like their beloved subjects ? IT is nice to be with your honey, but don't forget about the bees ! .............everybody must be still enjoying the new year..... ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 13 Jan 1992 17:20:00 EST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: GIVE PEAS A CHANCE Subject: Knee deeepin beeees A question to experts... (your lowly museum person asking!) If I want to open our communication exhibit --with BEES center--in APril, will they all beeee too drowzy to psych up the human starers? ADVICE... we're in Massachusetts. Thanks Loie ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1992 10:55:43 EST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: Peter Kevan Subject: Re: Knee deeepin beeees In-Reply-To: Message of Mon, 13 Jan 1992 17:20:00 EST from In Massachussetts (note all the extra ss's as in Misssisssipppi), by April you should have very active bees. You can be sure that they will become active with the first warm days of Spring. On cold, gloomy days the bees will not be very active, but will still be moving around in an observation hive. By then brood-rearing is in full swing, so lots of activity at the Queen (the retinue) whatever the weather, but no dancing on cold or wet days. So .... chemical communication at all times, dance communication on nice days. You should have an excellent demo. for the public. Many museums have observation hives that work well. In Toronto, the Ontario Science Centre has one. In Sudbury, Science North has one. Their experiences, I am told, are good. I had one at U of Colo in Colorado Springs and it attracted many people for long periods as the watched the activity through an Optivisor (a magnifier that sits on your head like a peaked cap) beside the hive. Anyway, good luck, Peter Kevan. ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1992 15:27:00 EST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology Comments: A VAX cluster with VMS V5.3-1, PMDF V3.2-19, JNET V3.5 & UCX V1.3A From: "G. This message preceded by the letter 'G'" Subject: Re: Knee deeepin beeees As an interested bee related individual who lives in Mass. (note abre. I can't spell either of them) Whereabouts is this deomonstration hive? Boston Museum of science? If not, Where? Thanks, Minding his own Bee's wax, B. Kulakovich., ========================================================================= Date: Tue, 14 Jan 1992 15:18:44 EST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: Peter Kevan Subject: Bee Venom Dear All: Can anyone send me the name of a company which uses Bee Venom in USA or Canada? Similarly, Royal Jelly? Many thanks on a stormy winter afternoon, blowing snow and ice, here. Cheers, Peter ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1992 03:17:00 EST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: GIVE PEAS A CHANCE Subject: Re: Knee deeepin beeees Sorry to send to the whole list, but I 'lost' the header! Hi B. Kulakovich The hive will bee at the New England Science Center, Worcester, MA. I'll send the list an invite to the opening! So many of you have been so helpful...and refs. supplied really came through. Thanks Bee Well Lois ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Jan 1992 14:57:00 EDT Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: Daniel Subject: Strange Bee Hi: Earlier in 1991, I saw this *huge* bee buzzing around my lawn, but gave it no further thought. However, I saw it several times after, and a bee-familiar neighbor told me that it was a 'new' kind of bee. It was about which I assumed was the nest. 1° to 2 inches long, and had been buzzing around a hole approx. ° in. wide was a hold in the ground about ° inches wide which I assumed was the nest. Anyone out there heard about this? Any info would be appreciated. Virtually, Daniel Weigh P.O.Box 5990 Trenton, NJ 08638 -- IN%"Weigh@Rider.BitNet" ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1992 11:09:15 CST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: "Dr. James H. Hunt" Subject: Re: Strange Bee In-Reply-To: Message of Wed, 15 Jan 1992 14:57:00 EDT from It may not have been a bee but instead was a wasp. The cicada killer, Sphecius speciosus, is 1 to 2 inches long, nests in holes in lawns, and males patrol territories over females' nesting areas (= buzzing about the nest opening). Large individuals are the largest solitary wasps in eastern North America. They are widespread throughout the east and midwest. I've gotten several telephone inquiries of the same general sort, and all have been cicada killers. They are fun to observe and completely nonaggressive Cheers, Jim Hunt ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 16 Jan 1992 18:01:00 EST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology Comments: A VAX cluster with VMS V5.3-1, PMDF V3.2-19, JNET V3.5 & UCX V1.3A From: "not an experiment, but a journey into the civilized world..." Subject: Re: Strange Bee heh.. uhm, I dont mean to take up wavelength, but the Cicada Killers realy camp out in my lawn sometimes here in Massachusettes, and I have two younger syblings that play on same said lawn. If they run over one of these hole barefoot, are they likely to get stung? And how is the potencey of their venom on say a 3 or a 5 year old? One of whom maybe reactive to apitoxin (sp?) Bret Kulakovich Is there a listserv out there on lawn care? ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1992 09:25:06 WET Reply-To: MunnPA@cardiff.ac.uk Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: Dr P A Munn 92 Subject: JOURNAL OF APICULTURAL RESEARCH NEWS FROM IBRA RESEARCH JOURNAL IS REJUVENATED For nearly 30 years the Journal of Apicultural Research has been IBRA's journal for reporting experimental science - becoming respected as a prestigious outlet for publishing scientific studies of bees in general and honey bees in particular. Now the Journal of Apicultural Research has been revamped with a more modern look and a much more readable format. But behind the new image are fundamental changes in management, that will ensure JAR's place as the flagship of apicultural research journals. An international editorial team now works on this publication. Dr Thomas Rinderer, research leader at the US Department of Agriculture's Honey Bee Breeding, Genetics and Physiology Laboratory, heads a team at Baton Rouge which selects, reviews and arranges the refereeing of manuscripts, approving only those reaching the required standard of scientific merit. Three staff at IBRA - the International Bee Research Association - in Cardiff, United Kingdom, edit these papers and manage the production of a complete journal from the collection of manuscripts. "The size of the editorial team will ensure that manuscripts receive prompt attention, regardless of the work commitments of individual editors", said Dr Rinderer. "Time limits have been set for each stage of the editorial and production process, and combined with an efficient manuscript tracking system, no undue delays will occur." Andrew Matheson, Director of the International Bee Research Association, welcomes the co-operation between the USDA and IBRA in producing the journal: "The editorial team is committed to bringing our colleagues a journal respected for its quality and the speed of review and production". Guidelines for authors, sample copies of the journal and information on subscriptions are available to anyone interested, from: IBRA, 18 North Road, Cardiff CF1 3DY, UK. Fax (+44) 222-665522. E-MAIL US TO (INTERNET) MUNNPA@CARDIFF.AC.UK -ends- (20 January 1992) ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 20 Jan 1992 09:42:16 GMT Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: SAC2@PHOENIX.CAMBRIDGE.AC.UK Subject: Re: [IBRA] In-Reply-To: -unspecified- To Andrew Mattheson Thanks for your fax about our Fussell & Corbet paper no. 91029 in J. Apic. Res. The answers to your questions are as follows 1 Yes, Fussell & Corbet 1991 should be F&C 1992 in the text and the list alike. It didn't appear in J. Appl Ecol in 1991 so it must be 1992 now. 2 Yes, Williams Corbet & Osborne means the Bee World paper which I suppose we ;haven't seen ;yet but which must be vol 72 pp 170-180 as you say so. 3 Where ;we quote Prys-Jones 1982 we refer to Prys-Jones, O.E. (1982) Ecological studies of foraging and life history in bumblebees. PhD thesis, University of Cambridge, UK. the Y of prys- has a ;hat on it, but this computer won't tell me how to represent ;that. 4 The full ref. for Fussell, Osborne & Corbet (in press) is now available and it is as follows: Fussell, M., Osborne, J.L. & Corbet, S. A. (1991) title as before - Aspects (NB not annals) of Applied Biology 27,95-99. PS In Table 2 where V. persica has a starting date identical with the finishing date I take this to be correct and to mean that it was out for one recording date only. Thanks for the information about the current status of the paper. Best wishes, Sally Corbet ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1992 14:35:58 CST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: "Dr. James H. Hunt" Subject: Re: Strange Bee In-Reply-To: Message of Thu, 16 Jan 1992 18:01:00 EST from re: stinging hazard from cicada killers The wasps really aren't aggressive. I've never heard of anyone being stung by one. Last year I had a class of 8 or 9 students in the midst of an aggregation of literally hundreds of similar wasps on a beach in Costa Rica, and once they (the students) overcame their nervousness, they had a great time. It would take an extemely fleet-footed child to step on one, and only then and only if barefoot is one likely to be stung. The only realistic chance of being stung I can think of is to catch one and then be stung handling it. The venom has not been selected for pain in vertebrates (as in social stinging species), so the reaction to a sting could be different, including briefer, than that to the sting of a social species. It could still hurt, though. Jim Hunt (c4926@UMSLVMA) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 22 Jan 1992 19:35:06 -0500 Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: Edward E Southwick Subject: bee I am looking for ANY data on metabolic rates of single bees, wasps or other insects. I am especially interested in possible measurements in the fi under field conditions. I am also interested in data on bees or other social insects that may have survived sub zero temperature exposure. Thanks for your help. send your reply to: ================================================================== º Edward E. Southwick Department of Biology º º Phone 716-395-5743 State University of New York º º FAX 716-395-2416 Brockport, New York 14420 º º BITNET SOUTHWIK@BROCK1P U.S.A. º ================================================================== ========================================================================= Date: Fri, 24 Jan 1992 10:56:00 EDT Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: "Malcolm (Tom) Sanford, Florida Extension Apiculturist" Subject: JANUARY ISSUE OF APIS FILENAME: JANAPIS.92 Florida Extension Beekeeping Newsletter Apis--Apicultural Information and Issues (ISSN 0889-3764) Volume 10, Number 1, January 1992 DELIBERATIONS OF THE FLORIDA HONEY BEE TECHNICAL COUNCIL The Florida Honey Bee Technical Council, which advises Agriculture Commissioner Crawford on issues relating to the beekeeping industry, met December 19. Deliberations of this body resulted in several recommendations. One had to do with the meeting in St. Louis that hammered out a model state certification plan (see subsequent articles). The Council unanimously approved a resolution stating that it concurred with the concept of certification and asked the Commissioner's representatives to develop a strategy for implementing and funding a program based on the document developed in St. Louis. A split vote in the council resulted in concurring with beekeeper registration fees as proposed (published in the October, 1991 APIS) by the Division of Plant Industry. This was in spite of rejection of the idea by the Florida State Beekeepers Association at its annual meeting in early November. A major force driving the decision was the real possibility that the program would be lost, if it were not partially self funded. The registration fees are expected to fund only about 20 percent of the Apiary bureau's operating budget. A final recommendation sent to the Commissioner was to accept the use of one new Apistan (R) strip to certify movement of Varroa- infested colonies, instead of two. This was based on data from the University of Florida; it was emphasized that the information is preliminary only, and does not purport to replace standard advice concerning treatment of colonies using two strips. The Apiary bureau will monitor the procedure to determine how effective it is in Varroa control. All the above recommendations were subsequently taken under consideration by the Commissioner. They have now been accepted and the Apiary Bureau is implementing them. Another point of business at the Council meeting was application for emergency (Section 18) registration of Amitraz for tracheal mite control. At this point, there is not enough information available to Mr. Cutts concerning actual damage done by tracheal mites in Florida beehives for the application to go forward. He is circulating a questionnaire on the issue to all registered beekeepers in the state. If you don't receive one, please contact Mr. Cutts, Division of Plant Industry, Apiary Bureau, 904/372-3505, Ext. 128 or your local bee inspector. MODEL HONEY BEE CERTIFICATION PLAN The document developed at the St. Louis Certification workshop is being published in the bee journals and elsewhere. The industry owes a debt of gratitude to Drs. H. Shimanuki, Agricultural Research Service, and A. Dietz, USDA\APHIS, for initially drafting the document that was subsequently modified from ideas generated at the workshop. I am paraphrasing it here: Introduction - Contains rationalizations for regulations to "protect the honey bee industry." African Honey Bees - Recommends doing everything possible to "retard the spread" and "foster the hybridization process." Research suggests that drone saturation will keep mismatings to below 10% in areas where Africanized wild colonies exist. Implementation of this part requires participation of the entire beekeeping industry, but through "self-help, rather than a rigid regulatory protocol." Quarantines will be "imposed in areas invaded by Africanized bee swarms." State apiary programs would be responsible for delimiting surveys and monitoring movement along with disease inspection. USDA/APHIS would "provide technical assistance to states that are developing Africanized bee monitoring programs." The term "quarantine" should not be construed as "no bee movement," but translated as "orderly bee movement." In other parts of the document, this word has been replaced where possible by "regulated area." When an area becomes "Africanized," and declared "regulated," all managed colonies will be allowed to move out for a period of three months without colonies needing to be certified as European. Beekeepers staying after that period who might wish to move out in the future, should mark or clip all queens or face additional criteria for European certification as noted below. Those who wish to remain in the regulated area can do so indefinitely without restrictions. CERTIFICATION PROCEDURES FOR EUROPEAN HONEY BEES - Colonies without clipped or marked queens in regulated areas will be permitted to move from a regulated zone to a non-regulated zone if requeened with (1) certified breeder queens; (2) queens produced from certified breeder queens (to be called certified production queens); or (3) certified queen cells. Colonies may also be certified to move using the current USDA identification method known as FABIS or USDA-ID. A certified breeder queen is one in which the progeny can be certified as European by: a) Fast Africanized Bee Identification System (FABIS); b) Official Universal System for the Detection of Africanized honey bees (USDA-ID); and c) any other APHIS-approved identification technique. Queens produced and mated in areas free of Africanized honey bees will not require certification. All certified breeder queens must be clipped and marked. These queens can be used to produce other certified breeder queens or drone- producing colonies. A certified production queen is one produced from larvae of a certified breeder queen. Certified production queens cannot be used to produce other certified production queens, but can be used as drone-producing colonies. A certified queen cell is any containing a larva from a certified breeder queen. The resulting queen emerging from a certified production cell is a certified production queen. Several categories of beekeepers affected by certification were discussed in St. Louis. Each is treated somewhat differently: Intrastate Beekeepers - Except where special regulations may require, beekeepers remaining inside one particular state will not need certification if located in non-regulated areas and not moving to regulated areas in the same state. Those in regulated areas also need not be certified unless providing queens, package bees, brood, nucleus or full-sized colonies, and/or drone semen to beekeepers in non-regulated areas. Interstate (Migratory) Beekeepers - Except where special regulations may require, beekeepers migrating across state lines in non-regulated areas will not require certification. Those in regulated areas must requeen or make splits using certified queens or cells. Queen and Package Bee Producers - Except where special regulations may require, queen and package bee producers will not require certification in non-regulated areas. Those in regulated areas must use certified breeder queens for cell and queen production and requeen or make splits using certified queens or cells. It is strongly recommended that all certified production queens be marked and clipped for ready identification. Producers of Certified Breeder Queens - Certified breeder queens are to be certified by state regulatory agencies using FABIS or USDA-ID. Other methods of certification must be approved by USDA/APHIS. Certification is based on emerging worker progeny or examination of worker bees collected at the entrance at least six weeks after successful queen introduction. Certified breeder queens must be marked and clipped to be readily identified by bee inspectors and other regulatory officials. Mating Yard Procedures - A minimum of 60 European drone-source colonies must be established for each 1,000 or fewer mating nuclei. All such drone-source colonies should be located within 1/4 mile radius of the mating yard. No drones may be introduced into colonies and mating nuclei unless originating from certified breeder queens or certified production queens. Producers of either certified breeder or production queens must requeen drone-producing colonies annually. Swarms - The practice of catching swarms and using them in beekeeping operations is no longer justifiable in regulated areas. All swarms captured in regulated areas must be destroyed. Abandoned Apiaries - All abandoned apiaries located within two miles of queen rearing yards must be destroyed. Semen Certification - Drone semen from regulated areas can be certified by progeny tests of worker bees. No certification will be required for semen obtained from non-regulated areas. The above pertains to the African honey bee, however, the document also deals with other issues. These are the requirements for disease certification: Brood Diseases - Present state procedures will remain in effect and are considered adequate for intrastate beekeepers. Requirements for interstate beekeepers are that no bees be refused entry because of presence of American foulbrood. However, beekeepers exceeding 3% levels of American foulbrood infestation for two consecutive years will not be issued permits to move. No certification of European foulbrood or chalkbrood is required. Other Diseases - No changes are proposed and present state procedures will remain in effect. Tracheal Mite - Tracheal mites are to be deregulated. Varroa Mite - For interstate beekeepers, no individual colony examination for Varroa will be required for entry. Instead, certification will be based on: (a) proof of purchase of sufficient EPA registered material to treat the number of colonies to be moved; (b) treatment must have been completed within the last 45 days before initial shipment date; or (c) treatment is present in colonies at time of entry. Return shipments do not require re- treatment. For interstate queen or package bee shippers, no inspection is required for source colonies of package bees and queens, however, in states where Varroa is established, all source colonies of queens, package bees and mating nuclei should be treated according to state regulations with EPA registered materials. In addition, shippers must indicate on cages the exact date of treatment initiation and those receiving package bees or queens should not install them until the treatment time has passed. Two final areas covered in the document concern cooperative agreements and information collection. The model plan encourages states to cooperate with each other to promote the orderly movement of bee colonies. It also urges collection of data on honey bee diseases, mites and range expansion of the Africanized honey bee. Those interested in seeing the full plan, can get a copy by writing to me. COMMENTS ON THE MODEL PLAN Only time will tell how effectively this model plan will be implemented. The workshop organizers are hoping that many state legislatures meeting this spring will enact its provisions into local statutes. One problem is the amount of interaction/cooperation there will be between federal and state regulatory agencies as the bee occupies more territory. Many at the workshop believed that the concept would work much better if there were strong leadership at the federal level. However, the document only gives USDA/APHIS a role in providing training and technical assistance. Perhaps more important, the published plan provides no guidelines on how implementation is to be funded by states, most beset by significant budgetary problems. Although based on current "best" information, there also continue to be questions about the plan's specifics. Dr. Eric Mussen in his November/December issue of From the U.C. Apiaries included some editorial remarks in his analysis: 1. Virgin European queens mating in areas where there are AHB colonies only need mate with 20-30% Africanized drones before becoming defensive. 2. There is no need to restrict identification of Africanization to any specific method. 3. Sixty European drone source colonies per 1,000 mating nuclei are not enough and no mention is made of using drone foundation. 4. Semen certification does not seem to concern itself enough with the question of drift. 5. Varroa treatment at any other time than when brood is at its lowest level may not be effective and chemical treatment before mites are shown to be present should not be condoned. Nevertheless, in spite of his reservations, Dr. Mussen concluded: "...much of the plan will make sense and state programs will become similar to it." The plan as published also seems to indicate that we know more about Africanized honey bees than we really do. This is well described in Africanized Honey Bee Conference Report, published November, 1991 and compiled by James Bach, President of the Apiary Inspectors of America and Dr. Eric Mussen, President of the American Association of Professional Apiculturists. Sixty-two questions about Africanized bees were put to reigning experts and followed up with a meeting of 44 persons "...known to have conducted studies..." on the insect. Broad categories in the questionnaire included: identification methods and economics; detection, surveys and trapping; designation of areas as Africanized; utilization of bait stations; determination of temperament and behavior; general management strategy in Latin America and colony size. There were no answers, or insufficient information, on a distressing number of specific questions in this report that relate directly to implementing any certification plan. For a full copy, send a check for $3.50 payable to Department of Entomology/Nematology. The report is due to be published sometime soon in the journals. Sincerely, Malcolm T. Sanford 0740 IFAS, Bldg 970 University of Florida Gainesville, FL 32611-0740 Phone (904) 392-1801, Ext. 143 FAX: 904-392-0190 BITNET Address: MTS@IFASGNV INTERNET Address: MTS@GNV.IFAS.UFL.EDU ========================================================================= Date: Sun, 26 Jan 1992 23:07:00 EST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: MENARDAE@SNYPLAVA.BITNET Subject: HELP I'm a new bee keeper. I currently have two hives, two supers high. I know nothing about bees. I had help last year but that is not going to help this season, I'm going to get at least two more hives (two supers) this winter. I would find it helpful if someone on the list could give me some publications-books that I could use to get on my feet. I'd hate to lose the hives that I have due to ignorance. I raise laboratory critters for a living and can't see a problem if I have enough information. THANK YOU!!!! ANDY...IN THE VALLEY. ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1992 15:53:34 MEZ Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: Stefan Bornholdt Subject: papers available --- ann, genetic algorithms papers available, hardcopies only. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GENERAL ASYMMETRIC NEURAL NETWORKS AND STRUCTURE DESIGN BY GENETIC ALGORITHMS Stefan Bornholdt Deutsches Elektronen-Synchrotron DESY, Notkestr. 85, 2000 Hamburg 52 Dirk Graudenz Institut f\"ur Theoretische Physik, Lehrstuhl E, RWTH 5100 Aachen, Germany. A learning algorithm for neural networks based on genetic algorithms is proposed. The concept leads in a natural way to a model for the explanation of inherited behavior. Explicitly we study a simplified model for a brain with sensory and motor neurons. We use a general asymmetric network whose structure is solely determined by an evolutionary process. This system is simulated numerically. It turns out that the network obtained by the algorithm reaches a stable state after a small number of sweeps. Some results illustrating the learning capabilities are presented. [to appear in Neural Networks] preprints available from: Stefan Bornholdt, DESY-T, Notkestr. 85, 2000 Hamburg 52, Germany. Email: t00bor@dhhdesy3.bitnet (hardcopies only, all rights reserved) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1992 09:27:03 EST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: Tom Fisher Subject: Re: HELP In-Reply-To: <9201270406.AA24188@fieldofdreams.npirs.purdue.edu>; from "*" at Jan 26, 92 11:07 pm > > I'm a new bee keeper. I currently have two hives, two supers high. > I know nothing about bees. I had help last year but that is not going to help > this season, I'm going to get at least two more hives (two supers) this winter. > > I would find it helpful if someone on the list could give me some > publications-books that I could use to get on my feet. I'd hate to lose > the hives that I have due to ignorance. > Andy: I'm a new bee keeper also. Started last May (1991) with just one hive. I lean heavily on a bee keeping paper back book that I got from Walter Kelly Co. in Kentucky. (I am writing this at work and I'm sorry, I can't remember the exact title - if it's important, let me know and I'll find out and drop you another line). If you can, get a copy (better yet, a subscription :-) ) of the magazines, "American Bee Journal" and "Gleenings in Bee Culture". Both have lots of useful tips as well as advertisments and mailing addresses for supplies, etc. Good luck - keep in touch. ==================================================================== Tom Fisher tfisher@ceris.purdue.edu | "...if by chance we find each Phone (317) 494-6616 | other, it is beautiful." - F. Perls ========================================================================= Date: Mon, 27 Jan 1992 09:58:31 CST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: Neal Dalton Subject: Re: HELP In-Reply-To: <9201271549.AA25360@timbuk.cray.com>; from "Tom Fisher" at Jan 27, 92 9:27 am > just one hive. I lean heavily on a bee keeping paper back book > that I got from Walter Kelly Co. in Kentucky. (I am writing this at > work and I'm sorry, I can't remember the exact title - if it's > important, let me know and I'll find out and drop you another > line). If you can, get a copy (better yet, a subscription :-) ) > of the magazines, "American Bee Journal" and "Gleenings in Bee > Culture". Both have lots of useful tips as well as advertisements > and mailing addresses for supplies, etc. Good luck - keep in > touch. I'm going to what was the USSR in a couple weeks and have a friend that has a bee keeping private business. I joined the list to see if there was any material I could bring him. I got a price list of supplies from a local bee keeping stores, but they didn't have journals. Does anyone know of a quick way I can get a hold of some of these journals? -- Neal /\ / _ / \|||/ Neal Dalton / \ / _ _\ / / \ Cray Research, inc / \/_ Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: PNCSPPC@NCSUVAX.BITNET Subject: Re: HELP An excellent book that is packed with information is called "The Hive and the Honey Bee." It is published by Dadant & Sons. Sincerely, Phil Calvert Bitnet: pncsppc@ncsuvax Internet: pncsppc@ccvax1.cc.ncsu.edu ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1992 08:20:09 -0500 Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: Stephen Bambara Subject: beginner help "Hive and Honey Bee" is excellent reference for everyone. "The Beekeeper's Handbook" by Sammataro & Avitabile is my favorite for beginners. Also important to consult Journals---American Bee Journal, Gleanings in Bee Culture, and Bee Supply catalogues. See if there is a local Beekeeping Club in your area. ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 29 Jan 1992 09:10:00 EDT Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: "Stephen J. Clark" Subject: Re: beginner help I passed "Andy...in the valley"s request for beekeeping information on to a woman in our department who is an avid beekeeper. She suggests the following: 1) Beekeeping for Beginners. USDA Home-Garden Bulletin #158. 2) Beginning with Package Bees. available from: A.I.Root/P.O. Box 706/Medina, Ohio 44258. 3) Magazine: Gleanings in Bee Culture. available from: A.I.Root - address above. 4) Beekeeping: General Information. Extension bulletin 833, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY. 5) Book: ABC and XYZ of Bee Culture. available from: A.I.Root - address above. Hope that helps. Steve Clark Vassar College ========================================================================= Date: Thu, 30 Jan 1992 13:53:00 EST Reply-To: Discussion of Bee Biology Sender: Discussion of Bee Biology From: MENARDAE@SNYPLAVA.BITNET Subject: THANKS! I would to express my thanks to all of you who took the time to send me information on sources of bee keeping knowledge. I now have enough basic sources to keep me busy for the rest of the winter. Again, THANK YOU!!! Andy..in the valley