From logcabin@qaiusqa.com Tue Dec 1 06:04:27 EST 1998 Article: 15122 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: "logcabin" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: immersion heaters Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 17:48:03 -0500 Lines: 16 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.133.252.210 Message-ID: <365896a9.0@news.aiusa.com> Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!nyc-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.71.1.51!spamkiller2.cwix.com!pull-feed.cwix.com!news.aiusa.com!208.133.252.210 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15122 Might anyone know how long it would take to heat a 55 gal drum of liquid with an immersion heater like the kind that Mann Lake offers at $55.95 (page#17,item HD-335)? thanks, steve logcabin@qaiusqa.com {remove the q's to respond personally....NO_SPAM} From logcabin@qaiusqa.com Tue Dec 1 06:04:54 EST 1998 Article: 15122 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: "logcabin" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: immersion heaters Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 17:48:03 -0500 Lines: 16 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.133.252.210 Message-ID: <365896a9.0@news.aiusa.com> Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!nyc-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.71.1.51!spamkiller2.cwix.com!pull-feed.cwix.com!news.aiusa.com!208.133.252.210 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15122 Might anyone know how long it would take to heat a 55 gal drum of liquid with an immersion heater like the kind that Mann Lake offers at $55.95 (page#17,item HD-335)? thanks, steve logcabin@qaiusqa.com {remove the q's to respond personally....NO_SPAM} From rheart@wave.co.nz Tue Dec 1 06:06:24 EST 1998 Article: 15111 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news3 From: rheart@wave.co.nz Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: does anyone have plans for hand honey extactor Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 06:50:59 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 1 Message-ID: <365ba897.674531@news.newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-564.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.326 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15111 From l650709@top2.ficnet.net.tw Tue Dec 1 06:06:38 EST 1998 Article: 15106 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!spring.edu.tw!feeder.seed.net.tw!news.ficnet.net.tw!not-for-mail From: "12345" Newsgroups: alabama.birmingham.general,rec.video.desktop,rec.video.releases,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,tw.bbs.literal.mystery,tw.bbs.rec.videogame,tw.bbs.rec.weapon,tw.bbs.sci.history,tw.bbs.sci.math,tw.bbs.sci.mechanics,tw.bbs.soc.birds,tw.infotimes.price Subject: =?big5?B?UmU6IKbbr7KuTanQoUM=?= Date: Thu, 26 Nov 1998 03:15:00 +0800 Organization: FICNET Internet News Lines: 71 Message-ID: <73mh8h$r0l$1@news.ficnet.net.tw> NNTP-Posting-Host: as2po50.ht.ficnet.net.tw Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0137_01BE18EA.F3D21D40" X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3007.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3007.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu rec.video.desktop:102318 rec.video.releases:28543 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15106 tw.bbs.literal.mystery:19 tw.bbs.sci.mechanics:50 tw.bbs.soc.birds:76 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0137_01BE18EA.F3D21D40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =20 =A6a=C2I=A6b=A5x=A5_=BF=A4=BE=F0=AAL=C2=ED=A4=A4=B5=D8=B8=F4=A4W=A1A = =AA=F1=B6l=A7=BD=A1A=BE=C7=AE=D5=A1A=A5=AB=B3=F5=A1A=A5=FE=B7s=B8=CB=E6C =A6=B3=A7=B9=B5=BD=BA=DE=B2z=A1A=A8=CF=A5=CE=A4Q=A4=BB=A9W=A6h=A1C =20 = =AF=B2=AA=F7=A1G=A4K=A5a=A4G=A1A=A9=E3=AA=F7=A8=E2=AD=D3=A4=EB=A1A=AD=AD=A4= k=A9=CA=A1A =20 =A9=CE=A4=D2=A9d=A1A=BE=C7=A5=CD=A4]=A5i=A5H=A1C =20 =B7N=AC=A2=A1G0936221734=A1A26845151 =BCB=A5=FD=A5=CD 24h=A5i=A8=D3=B9q ------=_NextPart_000_0137_01BE18EA.F3D21D40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="big5" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
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------=_NextPart_000_0137_01BE18EA.F3D21D40-- From carmcarb@tin.it Tue Dec 1 06:06:58 EST 1998 Article: 15112 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news1.tor.metronet.ca!news1.mtl.metronet.ca!Pollux.Teleglobe.net!server-b.cs.interbusiness.it!news.tin.it!not-for-mail From: "Carmela Carbonaro" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: RED SICILIANS ORANGES. Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 20:50:14 +0100 Organization: TIN Lines: 37 Message-ID: <73hn36$5s5$1@nslave1.tin.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: a-ct7-56.tin.it Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0038_01BE18B5.3351D220" X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3007.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3007.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15112 Messaggio a pił sezioni in formato MIME. ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BE18B5.3351D220 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I SELL RED SICILIANS ORANGES. LOOK AT: http://space.tin.it/economia/carcarb/=20 e-mail: carmcarb@tin.it=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BE18B5.3351D220 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BE18B5.3351D220-- From phempel@blossomland.com Tue Dec 1 06:07:06 EST 1998 Article: 15113 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Problem with German yellowjackets in apt! Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:25:41 -0500 Organization: Blossomland Supply Lines: 15 Message-ID: <73hp4f$3b6$1@usenet49.supernews.com> References: <73e7g4$1pti$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com> Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" X-Trace: 912025551 OWV4KGLQPD 2BD1AC usenet49.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15113 Check out the webstore at www.blossomland.com for the Gettum' Gone Spray. Or call 800.637.5262. Works on all insects especially yellow jackets and hornets. Spray the entry areas in the evening and by the next night they are all dead. The insects themselves track in the poison and contaminate the brood area. Works great and one can will do over two nests easily. Philip M Hempel beeyard@blossomland.com > From phempel@blossomland.com Tue Dec 1 06:07:17 EST 1998 Article: 15119 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!rochester!news.eecis.udel.edu!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.44.33.119!hub1.ispnews.com!news3.ispnews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <73e7g4$1pti$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com> <365D6F46.D7A8E486@bigfoot.com> Subject: Re: Problem with German yellowjackets in apt! Lines: 11 Organization: Blossomland Supply X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:08:02 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.172.13.63 X-Trace: news3.ispnews.com 912272882 209.172.13.63 (Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:08:02 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:08:02 EDT Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15119 Check out the product Gettum Gone for yellow jacket and wasp problems. Just spray the entry area of the hive from 12 feet away or less (in building, trees, bushes or in ground) the residual chemical is tracked into the brood chamber by the workers coming and going from the entrance. Within 24 - 36 hours the brood and yellow jackets/wasp are all dead. Works great! Find this at www.blossomland.com online with over 1000+ items to securely order from your computer. Or call 800-637-5262. From lithar@midwest.net Tue Dec 1 06:07:30 EST 1998 Article: 15104 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!interpath.net!news-dc-2.sprintlink.net!news-east1.sprintlink.net!news-peer1.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: AL Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Whats going on in there.. Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 00:11:40 -0800 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com - Discussions start here! Lines: 18 Message-ID: <365E5EBC.6E5@midwest.net> Reply-To: lithar@midwest.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.235.28.38 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 912147313 .ZFUVYH4M1C26D0EBC usenet57.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15104 Since the bees have closed up shop for the winter I've been wondering how things are going inside the hive. General wisdom seems to indicate the hive should be left alone during this time - but its been so quiet I had to know if there were many bees left in there. So I bought a stethoscope and discovered I can not only hear a bunch of bees but can locate the areas of heaviest activity within the hive. The sound quality is so good I had to remove the stethoscope to be sure a guard bee hadn't come out to check me out. After reading a post about a fellow who experienced a honeybee in the ear I had a greater appreciation for how that must have sounded. Anyway, the point is if you have not tried eavesdropping with a stethoscope I'd sure recommend giving it a try - can't say I learned much but had a good time. AL From kj@jaf.nildram.NOSPAMco.uk Tue Dec 1 06:07:42 EST 1998 Article: 15105 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: kj@jaf.nildram.NOSPAMco.uk (Kidney John) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Whats going on in there.. Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 12:38:14 GMT Organization: Chaos: You Choose Message-ID: <365e8885.1426539@goodnews.nildram.co.uk> References: <365E5EBC.6E5@midwest.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp46-3.dial.nildram.co.uk X-Trace: 27 Nov 1998 12:35:52 GMT, ppp46-3.dial.nildram.co.uk Lines: 28 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!amsterdam1-snf1!news.gtei.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.freedom2surf.net!peer.news.nildram.co.uk!195.112.4.37.MISMATCH!mercury.nildram.co.uk!ppp46-3.dial.nildram.co.uk Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15105 On Fri, 27 Nov 1998 00:11:40 -0800, AL wrote: >Since the bees have closed up shop for the winter I've been wondering >how things are going inside the hive. General wisdom seems to indicate >the hive should be left alone during this time - but its been so quiet I >had to know if there were many bees left in there. So I bought a >stethoscope and discovered I can not only hear a bunch of bees but can >locate the areas of heaviest activity within the hive. The sound quality >is so good I had to remove the stethoscope to be sure a guard bee hadn't >come out to check me out. After reading a post about a fellow who >experienced a honeybee in the ear I had a greater appreciation for how >that must have sounded. > > >Anyway, the point is if you have not tried eavesdropping with a >stethoscope I'd sure recommend giving it a try - can't say I learned >much but had a good time. > > I wonder why I never thought of that, I've got a stethoscope? Your 'dilemma' is a good reason for a glass inner cover, which I use, with old newspapers on top of it, for added insulation, at this time of year. A quick peep in doesn't do any harm... -- KJ@jaf.nildramNOSPAM.co.uk www.jaf.nildram.co.uk From behomet@home.com Tue Dec 1 06:07:52 EST 1998 Article: 15107 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp.giganews.com!newshub1.home.com!news.home.com!news.rdc1.fl.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Behomet" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bee Keeping Supplies in Sarasota Florida Lines: 10 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Message-ID: Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 21:00:28 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.3.77.250 NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 27 Nov 1998 13:00:28 PDT Organization: @Home Network Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15107 Hi, I used to keep bees when I was living in NJ about 10 years ago. I live in Florida now and I am thinking of starting 2 or 3 hives again. I was wondering if any know of a place to get supplies and bees in the Sarasota, FL area? Thanx for the help, Behomet From ssbtractor@aol.com Tue Dec 1 06:07:59 EST 1998 Article: 15108 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!interpath.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: ssbtractor@aol.com (SSBTractor) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Tractor Club at Yahoo! Lines: 12 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 27 Nov 1998 23:49:54 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19981127184954.01921.00001546@ng15.aol.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15108 We are pleased to announce that we are starting a new tractor club at Yahoo! for a general discussion on all things related to the tractor and agricultural fields. This is an area that has too few resources devoted to it on the Internet and we hope that by providing a place for owners, collectors, and those that work with and depend on tractors a place to share opinions, advice, and ask and answer questions that it would be beneficial to the tractor community as a whole. So feel free to stop on by to our site at Yahoo! Clubs and sign up to join in what is sure to be a useful discussion. You can visit us through the Yahoo! Clubs section by going to the Tractor Forum, or directly at the link below: http://clubs.yahoo.com/clubs/tractorforum From chucklaser@aol.com Tue Dec 1 06:08:09 EST 1998 Article: 15109 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: chucklaser@aol.com (ChuckLaser) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Too many bees and no honey. HELP Lines: 12 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 28 Nov 1998 02:49:10 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19981127214910.23453.00001677@ng17.aol.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15109 We live in the midwest on the Iowa and Illinois border. I have one great looking hive, which was a fresh split this spring and the original hive which seems to be out of honey already, but chock full of bees. When installing the apistan strips, I noticed it was a little low, but when I removed them, all obvious signs of honey were gone. The hive was quite light weight. I suspect this was because I used a Queen excluder and it filled up with brood. We have had exceptionally warm weather, highs in the mid 60's this month..way too warm. I installed a division feeder full of their honey in hopes they would store it in the comb while the weather holds. I wish I had some full frames to give them, but I don't. I also don't want to screw up the other really good hive by combining or anything. Any neat tricks to solve this type of problem? Chuck From hk1beeman@aol.com Tue Dec 1 06:08:19 EST 1998 Article: 15110 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hk1beeman@aol.com (Hk1BeeMan) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Too many bees and no honey. HELP Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 28 Nov 1998 03:04:29 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <19981127214910.23453.00001677@ng17.aol.com> Message-ID: <19981127220429.18083.00001654@ng114.aol.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15110 >y >combining or anything. Any neat tricks to solve this type of problem? >Chuck > > > Three words.... FEED, FEED, FEED !!!!!!! Kevin Johnson, Big Johnson Beekeeping, Lillington NC From rheart@wave.co.nz Tue Dec 1 06:08:28 EST 1998 Article: 15114 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 From: rheart@wave.co.nz (kev) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: honey extracters Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 08:31:17 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 1 Message-ID: <365fb49b.6924897@news.newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-521.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15114 has anyone got a plan of a honey extracter From rheart@wave.co.nz Tue Dec 1 06:08:33 EST 1998 Article: 15114 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 From: rheart@wave.co.nz (kev) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: honey extracters Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 08:31:17 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 1 Message-ID: <365fb49b.6924897@news.newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-521.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15114 has anyone got a plan of a honey extracter From phempel@blossomland.com Tue Dec 1 06:08:44 EST 1998 Article: 15115 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.44.33.119!hub1.ispnews.com!news3.ispnews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <365fb49b.6924897@news.newsguy.com> Subject: Re: honey extracters Lines: 11 Organization: Blossomland Supply X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Message-ID: <01W72.324$Fr2.1251@news3.ispnews.com> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:02:48 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.172.13.63 X-Trace: news3.ispnews.com 912272572 209.172.13.63 (Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:02:52 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:02:52 EDT Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15115 Check the webstore at www.blossomland.com . Plans for building your own extractor and beehive equipment and over 1000+ other items for and from the beehive, can be purchased there safe and secure online. Check it out I think you will like it. kev wrote in message <365fb49b.6924897@news.newsguy.com>... >has anyone got a plan of a honey extracter From phempel@blossomland.com Tue Dec 1 06:08:49 EST 1998 Article: 15115 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.44.33.119!hub1.ispnews.com!news3.ispnews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <365fb49b.6924897@news.newsguy.com> Subject: Re: honey extracters Lines: 11 Organization: Blossomland Supply X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Message-ID: <01W72.324$Fr2.1251@news3.ispnews.com> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:02:48 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.172.13.63 X-Trace: news3.ispnews.com 912272572 209.172.13.63 (Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:02:52 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:02:52 EDT Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15115 Check the webstore at www.blossomland.com . Plans for building your own extractor and beehive equipment and over 1000+ other items for and from the beehive, can be purchased there safe and secure online. Check it out I think you will like it. kev wrote in message <365fb49b.6924897@news.newsguy.com>... >has anyone got a plan of a honey extracter From lithar@midwest.net Tue Dec 1 06:08:58 EST 1998 Article: 15117 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: AL Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: honey extracters Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:17:01 -0800 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com - Discussions start here! Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3660765D.49AB@midwest.net> References: <365fb49b.6924897@news.newsguy.com> <01W72.324$Fr2.1251@news3.ispnews.com> Reply-To: lithar@midwest.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.235.28.11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 912284429 .ZFUVYH4M1CB D0EBC usenet80.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15117 Philip M. Hempel wrote: > > Check the webstore at www.blossomland.com . Plans for building your own > extractor and beehive equipment and over 1000+ other items for and from the > beehive, can be purchased there safe and secure online. A couple of locations for freebee do-it-yourself plans and ideas: http://www.birkey.com/BLB/Beekeeping/index.html http://www.concordnc.com/tohill/bees/beeinfo.htm The Birkey site has the extractor plans. AL From na@na.com.au Tue Dec 1 06:09:14 EST 1998 Article: 15123 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!nntp.primenet.com!Supernews60!supernews.com!ihug.co.nz!news.tig.com.au!not-for-mail From: Samovar Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: hives for sale in sydney Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 21:57:50 +1100 Organization: Vlast Industries Lines: 5 Message-ID: <365FD72E.3865@na.com.au> Reply-To: na@na.com.au NNTP-Posting-Host: p60-nas4.syd.ihug.com.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15123 2 beehives for sale in lidcombe area of sydney. $100 each, negotiable. Also extra racks free with hives. Hives are full of 2 seasons of honey. Please email : samovar@tig.com.au From logcabin@qaiusqa.com Tue Dec 1 06:09:43 EST 1998 Article: 15122 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: "logcabin" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: immersion heaters Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 17:48:03 -0500 Lines: 16 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.133.252.210 Message-ID: <365896a9.0@news.aiusa.com> Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!nyc-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.71.1.51!spamkiller2.cwix.com!pull-feed.cwix.com!news.aiusa.com!208.133.252.210 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15122 Might anyone know how long it would take to heat a 55 gal drum of liquid with an immersion heater like the kind that Mann Lake offers at $55.95 (page#17,item HD-335)? thanks, steve logcabin@qaiusqa.com {remove the q's to respond personally....NO_SPAM} From phempel@blossomland.com Tue Dec 1 06:09:53 EST 1998 Article: 15116 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Looking for beeswax to buy Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:18:42 -0500 Organization: Blossomland Supply Lines: 14 Message-ID: <73pb9k$rbm$1@usenet41.supernews.com> References: <710nln$ls0$1@sparky.wolfe.net> Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" X-Trace: 912273524 OWV4KGLQPD 3FD1AC usenet41.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15116 For beeswax both refined and not refined check out the webstore at www.blossomland.com. Beeswax and and much more found here. Order online or call 800.637.5262. >Sara and Tom Moore >Rustic Charm Candle Company >Mill Creek, Washington >tnsmoore@wolfenet.com > > > > From phempel@blossomland.com Tue Dec 1 06:10:04 EST 1998 Article: 15120 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!rochester!news.eecis.udel.edu!netnews.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Newbee Questions Continued Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:30:57 -0500 Organization: Blossomland Supply Lines: 19 Message-ID: <73pbut$otd$1@usenet43.supernews.com> Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" X-Trace: 912274205 OWV4KGLQPD 3FD1AC usenet43.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15120 Question Asked was: 1. I saw the online store site mentioned earlier. They have a starter kit. Does this kit contain everything that you really need to get started or is it a $125 that requires an additional $500 worth of stuff to really get started? This kit doesn't have any sort of suit: just a hood. Is a suit just a luxury item? Answer: Beekeeping like any activity can be as expensive as you can afford. A starter kit from Blossomland Supply (www.blossomland.com) costs $129 and comes with a Veil with a builtin hat. You could upgrade to a mesh hat and a folding veil or a full suit with zipper veil. The choice here is entirely up to your comfort level with the bees. I would recommend a full suit to all who may not be sure though. I personally use a full suit when I work the bees just to be sure that I am protected well if I need to be. If not then no harm done to me!! I like that idea. From hk1beeman@aol.com Tue Dec 1 06:10:17 EST 1998 Article: 15126 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hk1beeman@aol.com (Hk1BeeMan) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Newbee Questions Continued Lines: 48 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 29 Nov 1998 14:01:12 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <73pbut$otd$1@usenet43.supernews.com> Message-ID: <19981129090112.10541.00001940@ng-cf1.aol.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15126 >Question Asked was: >1. I saw the online store site mentioned earlier. They have a starter kit. >Does this kit contain everything that you really need to get started or is >it a $125 that requires an additional $500 worth of stuff to really get >started? This kit doesn't have any sort of suit: just a hood. Is a suit just >a luxury item? > >Answer: >Beekeeping like any activity can be as expensive as you can afford. A >starter kit from Blossomland Supply (www.blossomland.com) costs $129 and >comes with a Veil with a builtin hat. You could upgrade to a mesh hat and a >folding veil or a full suit with zipper veil. The choice here is entirely >up to your comfort level with the bees. I would recommend a full suit to >all who may not be sure though. I personally use a full suit when I work >the bees just to be sure that I am protected well if I need to be. If not >then no harm done to me!! I like that idea. > oH COME NOW please I 've been in the biz for bout 4 yrs now, with mentors that are in their 80's keeping bees for about 70 of those years. I cant see forking out 100+ bucks for a suit, couldn't afford it either. try this: ...... brushy mountain bee farm 1-800-beeswax Beginners kit 125.00 < veil,hat box,frames bottom ,tops, covers,feeder, hive tool, smoker etc.....> one more hive body to serve as your first years super( all this gets your bees through their first winter) 30.00 w/ frames and foundation. wear a pair of light colored jogging pants over your jeans, be sure to wear socks and shoes. Wear a long sleeved shirt buttoned, with white tee shirt over it, tie your veil tightly under the shirt collar just like a mans tie. I'm assuming almost everyone has the pants and shirt etc.... Ok so there you are in the bee biz. 125.00 30.00 35.00 for a 3 lb pkg of bees w/queen --------- 190.00 actual physical start up cost Hopefully beekeepers in your area will sell you enough meds for a single hive if not, you mail me and i'll see what i can do !! Kevin Johnson, Big Johnson Beekeeping, Lillington NC From andy.nachbaur@calwest.net Tue Dec 1 06:10:39 EST 1998 Article: 15118 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: andy.nachbaur@calwest.net (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: "kill a beekeeper" BS from USDA Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:04:16 GMT Organization: Wild Bee's Information Service Reply-To: andy.nachbaur@calwest.net Message-ID: <366080f0.3165658@news.jps.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.142.59.45 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.142.59.45 Lines: 26 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.63.114.134 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.cwix.com!207.0.56.122!news.eli.net!blushng.jps.net!209.142.59.45 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15118 11.28 Latest line of Bee Pest Control BS with the help of the Steve Buchmann of the USDA Carl Hayden Bee Research Center. "Even if you exterminated every honeybee and all the Africanized bees, we would not be out the window in terms of pollination because of these native bees.'' "Pollination unlikely to suffer from bee losses" never better said by any DUSTY and this one's on our payroll. I for one will remember that next time they need a friend to help get more public funding. How easy it is to stomp on a flat cat, but how those cats do recover! Remember those famous lies, will add one more. "I am here from the Carl Hayen Honey Bee Research Center and I am here to help you beekeepers." Yeah you bet, and so is Dr. Death! You can find the full story at http://beenet.com/bnews.htm Chow, the OLd Drone http://beenet.com Left Coast, Republic of America ICBM Target Info removed for security reasons (c)Permission is given to copy this document in any form, or to print for any use. (w)OPINIONS are not necessarily facts. USE AT OWN RISK! From hk1beeman@aol.com Tue Dec 1 06:10:47 EST 1998 Article: 15125 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hk1beeman@aol.com (Hk1BeeMan) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: "kill a beekeeper" BS from USDA Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 29 Nov 1998 13:47:49 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <366080f0.3165658@news.jps.net> Message-ID: <19981129084749.10541.00001939@ng-cf1.aol.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15125 >rl Hayden Bee Research >Center. "Even if you exterminated every honeybee and all the >Africanized bees, we would not be out the window in terms of >pollination because of these native bees.'' "Pollination unlikely to >suffer from bee losses" never better said by any DUSTY and this one's >on our payroll. I for one will remember that next time they need a >friend to help get more public funding. > >How easy it is to stomp on a flat cat, but how those cats do recover! >Remember those famous lies, will add one more. "I am here from the >Carl Hayen Honey Bee Research Center and I am here to help you >beekeep STONE THE BASTARD !!!!!!!! Kevin Johnson, Big Johnson Beekeeping, Lillington NC From jcaldeira@earthlink.net Tue Dec 1 06:10:58 EST 1998 Article: 15127 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!nntp.earthlink.net!posted-from-earthlink!not-for-mail From: jcaldeira@earthlink.net (John Caldeira) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: "kill a beekeeper" BS from USDA Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:49:28 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <366080f0.3165658@news.jps.net> X-Posted-Path-Was: not-for-mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ELN-Date: 29 Nov 1998 14:47:33 GMT X-ELN-Insert-Date: Sun Nov 29 06:55:06 1998 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Lines: 29 Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Host: sdn-ar-002txdallp284.dialsprint.net Message-ID: <366659d3.47907838@news.earthlink.net> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15127 andy.nachbaur@calwest.net (Andy Nachbaur) wrote: > 11.28 Latest line of Bee Pest Control BS with the >help of the Steve Buchmann of the USDA Carl Hayden Bee Research >Center. "Even if you exterminated every honeybee and all the >Africanized bees, we would not be out the window in terms of >pollination because of these native bees.'' "Pollination unlikely to >suffer from bee losses" never better said by any DUSTY and this one's >on our payroll. I for one will remember that next time they need a >friend to help get more public funding. > We may not like what we read, but I appreciate that our USDA scientists give their honest opinions and present objective research results. We risk tainting scientific research if future funding is influenced by whether they get "politically correct" results. It is appropriate to influence the kinds of research that use public funding so that it addresses the right problems, but we should expect nothing less than unbiased conclusions (even if it hurts sometimes). In general, I think the USDA is doing a great job for beekeepers with mite control and in other applied research areas. -John John Caldeira Dallas, Texas jcaldeira@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~jcaldeira/beekeeping/ From adamf@vt.edu Tue Dec 1 06:11:08 EST 1998 Article: 15130 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!outfeed1.news.cais.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail From: adamf@golux.radix.net (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: "kill a beekeeper" BS from USDA Date: 30 Nov 1998 18:39:29 -0000 Organization: Self-Organized. Dig that. Lines: 33 Message-ID: <73uop1$n1r$1@golux.radix.net> References: <366659d3.47907838@news.earthlink.net> <19981130154629.08477.00000411@ng-ch1.aol.com> Reply-To: adamf@vt.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: port27.annex4.radix.net Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15130 In article <19981130154629.08477.00000411@ng-ch1.aol.com>, >Spending time in a research lab and time in the field doing work are two >entirely different things as you are well aware. The numbers though which are >combined to form research are out of the most controlled situations which are >made available, however there are numerous factors which can vary which could >ultimatly effect the outcome of research (weather being a VERY important one). > >Whatever the results of research, we should always be aware that these are only >one group or individuals results. I have done numerous research projects where >the results have contradicted what the "mainstream" is reporting. Even though >this can be attributed to several factors, the fact remains the same that >results can vary from experiment to experiment even when conducted identically >in the same institution under the same procedure and guidelines. Hummmm. Then I'd say that you've got some problems somewhere. When one designs a research program one doesn't want to have biased results--that would not be significant and this is why one employs experimental designs and utilizes statistics to minimize the biases--or variability. Since the more variability one has in research the further >from the truth one is-- Although researchers can design excellent experiments, and do great statistics on them, they can also be absolutely clueless about how the research subjects act in the real world--I think this is what happens more in research than the data manipulation you were describing. Adam -- Adam Finkelstein adamf@vt.edu http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees/adamf From ccjm@connectnet.com Tue Dec 1 06:11:19 EST 1998 Article: 15124 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!207.110.0.61!news.connectnet.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <366107F3.D7061789@connectnet.com> From: cathy cronkhite/Jack McCullough X-Sender: "cathy cronkhite/Jack McCullough" <@smtp.connectnet.com> (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-gatewaynet (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Beekeeping in San Diego Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 7 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:38:11 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.251.151.195 X-Trace: news.connectnet.com 912324947 206.251.151.195 (Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:35:47 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:35:47 PDT Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15124 I recently moved to a new home with plenty of land for beekeeping. I want to start a couple of hives this spring and was wondering what time of year would be the best. I'm in eastern San Diego, any advice from local beekeepers will be greatly appreciated. Jack McCullough ccjm@connectnet.com From urrw@skynet.be Tue Dec 1 06:11:28 EST 1998 Article: 15128 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!nntp.primenet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!skynet.be!poster!not-for-mail From: "Emmanuel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Protection of the wood of the hives Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:24:54 +0100 Organization: Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Lines: 13 Message-ID: <73sees$e8g$1@news1.skynet.be> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup173.wavre.skynet.be X-Trace: news1.skynet.be 912375068 14608 195.238.10.173 (29 Nov 1998 21:31:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@skynet.be NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Nov 1998 21:31:08 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15128 Hello with all! For the people using the impregnation with microcrystalline wax for the protection of the hives, exist a means of colouring wood? Which product is necessary to use? Which is the procedure to be followed? Does somebody have experience in the field? Thank you in advance for the answer. In a friendly way. Emmanuel HAUBRUGE Belgium urrw@skynet.be From beeman@kingston.net Tue Dec 1 06:11:37 EST 1998 Article: 15129 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!nyc-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!feeder.qis.net!newsfeed-east.supernews.com!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: Kent Stienburg Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: weather Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:10:16 -0800 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com - Discussions start here! Lines: 12 Message-ID: <366228B8.7BF3@kingston.net> Reply-To: beeman@kingston.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.210.52.98 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 912391510 VRL06/YYI3462CDD2C usenet54.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win16; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15129 Hi All, Has anyone else been experiencing warmer then usual temperatures? I live in Southeastern Ontario Canada and it was 10 C (50 f) on Saturday. The last few days have been nice. Today was cloudy and cool, but not typical end of November weather. The bees were flying around the hive looking for something to do. If the winter is starting this mild what will the end of the winter be like? I hope there is no freezing rain. The ice storm we had last year was certainly something I can live without!! Good luck. Kent Stienburg From ccjm@connectnet.com Wed Dec 2 06:24:53 EST 1998 Article: 15124 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!207.110.0.61!news.connectnet.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <366107F3.D7061789@connectnet.com> From: cathy cronkhite/Jack McCullough X-Sender: "cathy cronkhite/Jack McCullough" <@smtp.connectnet.com> (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-gatewaynet (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Beekeeping in San Diego Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 7 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:38:11 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.251.151.195 X-Trace: news.connectnet.com 912324947 206.251.151.195 (Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:35:47 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:35:47 PDT Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15124 I recently moved to a new home with plenty of land for beekeeping. I want to start a couple of hives this spring and was wondering what time of year would be the best. I'm in eastern San Diego, any advice from local beekeepers will be greatly appreciated. Jack McCullough ccjm@connectnet.com From logcabin@qaiusqa.com Wed Dec 2 06:25:56 EST 1998 Article: 15122 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: "logcabin" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: immersion heaters Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 17:48:03 -0500 Lines: 16 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.133.252.210 Message-ID: <365896a9.0@news.aiusa.com> Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!nyc-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.71.1.51!spamkiller2.cwix.com!pull-feed.cwix.com!news.aiusa.com!208.133.252.210 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15122 Might anyone know how long it would take to heat a 55 gal drum of liquid with an immersion heater like the kind that Mann Lake offers at $55.95 (page#17,item HD-335)? thanks, steve logcabin@qaiusqa.com {remove the q's to respond personally....NO_SPAM} From rheart@wave.co.nz Wed Dec 2 06:25:57 EST 1998 Article: 15111 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news3 From: rheart@wave.co.nz Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: does anyone have plans for hand honey extactor Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 06:50:59 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 1 Message-ID: <365ba897.674531@news.newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-564.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.326 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15111 From carmcarb@tin.it Wed Dec 2 06:25:57 EST 1998 Article: 15112 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news1.tor.metronet.ca!news1.mtl.metronet.ca!Pollux.Teleglobe.net!server-b.cs.interbusiness.it!news.tin.it!not-for-mail From: "Carmela Carbonaro" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: RED SICILIANS ORANGES. 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------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BE18B5.3351D220-- From phempel@blossomland.com Wed Dec 2 06:25:58 EST 1998 Article: 15113 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Problem with German yellowjackets in apt! Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:25:41 -0500 Organization: Blossomland Supply Lines: 15 Message-ID: <73hp4f$3b6$1@usenet49.supernews.com> References: <73e7g4$1pti$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com> Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" X-Trace: 912025551 OWV4KGLQPD 2BD1AC usenet49.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15113 Check out the webstore at www.blossomland.com for the Gettum' Gone Spray. Or call 800.637.5262. Works on all insects especially yellow jackets and hornets. Spray the entry areas in the evening and by the next night they are all dead. The insects themselves track in the poison and contaminate the brood area. Works great and one can will do over two nests easily. Philip M Hempel beeyard@blossomland.com > From phempel@blossomland.com Wed Dec 2 06:25:58 EST 1998 Article: 15119 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!rochester!news.eecis.udel.edu!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.44.33.119!hub1.ispnews.com!news3.ispnews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <73e7g4$1pti$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com> <365D6F46.D7A8E486@bigfoot.com> Subject: Re: Problem with German yellowjackets in apt! Lines: 11 Organization: Blossomland Supply X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:08:02 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.172.13.63 X-Trace: news3.ispnews.com 912272882 209.172.13.63 (Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:08:02 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:08:02 EDT Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15119 Check out the product Gettum Gone for yellow jacket and wasp problems. Just spray the entry area of the hive from 12 feet away or less (in building, trees, bushes or in ground) the residual chemical is tracked into the brood chamber by the workers coming and going from the entrance. Within 24 - 36 hours the brood and yellow jackets/wasp are all dead. Works great! Find this at www.blossomland.com online with over 1000+ items to securely order from your computer. Or call 800-637-5262. From chucklaser@aol.com Wed Dec 2 06:25:59 EST 1998 Article: 15109 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: chucklaser@aol.com (ChuckLaser) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Too many bees and no honey. HELP Lines: 12 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 28 Nov 1998 02:49:10 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19981127214910.23453.00001677@ng17.aol.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15109 We live in the midwest on the Iowa and Illinois border. I have one great looking hive, which was a fresh split this spring and the original hive which seems to be out of honey already, but chock full of bees. When installing the apistan strips, I noticed it was a little low, but when I removed them, all obvious signs of honey were gone. The hive was quite light weight. I suspect this was because I used a Queen excluder and it filled up with brood. We have had exceptionally warm weather, highs in the mid 60's this month..way too warm. I installed a division feeder full of their honey in hopes they would store it in the comb while the weather holds. I wish I had some full frames to give them, but I don't. I also don't want to screw up the other really good hive by combining or anything. Any neat tricks to solve this type of problem? Chuck From hk1beeman@aol.com Wed Dec 2 06:25:59 EST 1998 Article: 15110 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hk1beeman@aol.com (Hk1BeeMan) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Too many bees and no honey. HELP Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 28 Nov 1998 03:04:29 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <19981127214910.23453.00001677@ng17.aol.com> Message-ID: <19981127220429.18083.00001654@ng114.aol.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15110 >y >combining or anything. Any neat tricks to solve this type of problem? >Chuck > > > Three words.... FEED, FEED, FEED !!!!!!! Kevin Johnson, Big Johnson Beekeeping, Lillington NC From rheart@wave.co.nz Wed Dec 2 06:26:00 EST 1998 Article: 15114 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 From: rheart@wave.co.nz (kev) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: honey extracters Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 08:31:17 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 1 Message-ID: <365fb49b.6924897@news.newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-521.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15114 has anyone got a plan of a honey extracter From phempel@blossomland.com Wed Dec 2 06:26:01 EST 1998 Article: 15115 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.44.33.119!hub1.ispnews.com!news3.ispnews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <365fb49b.6924897@news.newsguy.com> Subject: Re: honey extracters Lines: 11 Organization: Blossomland Supply X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Message-ID: <01W72.324$Fr2.1251@news3.ispnews.com> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:02:48 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.172.13.63 X-Trace: news3.ispnews.com 912272572 209.172.13.63 (Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:02:52 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:02:52 EDT Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15115 Check the webstore at www.blossomland.com . Plans for building your own extractor and beehive equipment and over 1000+ other items for and from the beehive, can be purchased there safe and secure online. Check it out I think you will like it. kev wrote in message <365fb49b.6924897@news.newsguy.com>... >has anyone got a plan of a honey extracter From lithar@midwest.net Wed Dec 2 06:26:01 EST 1998 Article: 15117 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: AL Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: honey extracters Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:17:01 -0800 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com - Discussions start here! Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3660765D.49AB@midwest.net> References: <365fb49b.6924897@news.newsguy.com> <01W72.324$Fr2.1251@news3.ispnews.com> Reply-To: lithar@midwest.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.235.28.11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 912284429 .ZFUVYH4M1CB D0EBC usenet80.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15117 Philip M. Hempel wrote: > > Check the webstore at www.blossomland.com . Plans for building your own > extractor and beehive equipment and over 1000+ other items for and from the > beehive, can be purchased there safe and secure online. A couple of locations for freebee do-it-yourself plans and ideas: http://www.birkey.com/BLB/Beekeeping/index.html http://www.concordnc.com/tohill/bees/beeinfo.htm The Birkey site has the extractor plans. AL From na@na.com.au Wed Dec 2 06:26:02 EST 1998 Article: 15123 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!nntp.primenet.com!Supernews60!supernews.com!ihug.co.nz!news.tig.com.au!not-for-mail From: Samovar Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: hives for sale in sydney Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 21:57:50 +1100 Organization: Vlast Industries Lines: 5 Message-ID: <365FD72E.3865@na.com.au> Reply-To: na@na.com.au NNTP-Posting-Host: p60-nas4.syd.ihug.com.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15123 2 beehives for sale in lidcombe area of sydney. $100 each, negotiable. Also extra racks free with hives. Hives are full of 2 seasons of honey. Please email : samovar@tig.com.au From phempel@blossomland.com Wed Dec 2 06:26:02 EST 1998 Article: 15121 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!rochester!news.eecis.udel.edu!netnews.com!newsfeed.corridex.com!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey Labels Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:13:16 -0500 Organization: Blossomland Supply Lines: 17 Message-ID: <73pavj$riv$1@usenet46.supernews.com> References: <4w8%1.421$CM.2615@newsfeed.slurp.net> Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" X-Trace: 912273203 OWV4KGLQPD 3FD1AC usenet46.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15121 If you want to have preprinted labels call R & M Farms in Michigan at 313.722.7727. Self sticking good quality labels. Will print small batches of 1000 and has many preprinted speciality lables to help sell your honey. If you want to just use a generic lable check out the lables at www.blossomland.com Three sizes to fit your container needs. Michael Scott Meiners wrote in message <4w8%1.421$CM.2615@newsfeed.slurp.net>... >I've finaly run out of honey jar labels which my dad bought in bulk back in >the 80's. I'm looking to but some more but I can not find anybody that >sells them. Any suggestions on where to look? Thanks, >-Mike > > From phempel@blossomland.com Wed Dec 2 06:26:03 EST 1998 Article: 15116 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Looking for beeswax to buy Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:18:42 -0500 Organization: Blossomland Supply Lines: 14 Message-ID: <73pb9k$rbm$1@usenet41.supernews.com> References: <710nln$ls0$1@sparky.wolfe.net> Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" X-Trace: 912273524 OWV4KGLQPD 3FD1AC usenet41.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15116 For beeswax both refined and not refined check out the webstore at www.blossomland.com. Beeswax and and much more found here. Order online or call 800.637.5262. >Sara and Tom Moore >Rustic Charm Candle Company >Mill Creek, Washington >tnsmoore@wolfenet.com > > > > From phempel@blossomland.com Wed Dec 2 06:26:03 EST 1998 Article: 15120 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!rochester!news.eecis.udel.edu!netnews.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Newbee Questions Continued Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:30:57 -0500 Organization: Blossomland Supply Lines: 19 Message-ID: <73pbut$otd$1@usenet43.supernews.com> Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" X-Trace: 912274205 OWV4KGLQPD 3FD1AC usenet43.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15120 Question Asked was: 1. I saw the online store site mentioned earlier. They have a starter kit. Does this kit contain everything that you really need to get started or is it a $125 that requires an additional $500 worth of stuff to really get started? This kit doesn't have any sort of suit: just a hood. Is a suit just a luxury item? Answer: Beekeeping like any activity can be as expensive as you can afford. A starter kit from Blossomland Supply (www.blossomland.com) costs $129 and comes with a Veil with a builtin hat. You could upgrade to a mesh hat and a folding veil or a full suit with zipper veil. The choice here is entirely up to your comfort level with the bees. I would recommend a full suit to all who may not be sure though. I personally use a full suit when I work the bees just to be sure that I am protected well if I need to be. If not then no harm done to me!! I like that idea. From hk1beeman@aol.com Wed Dec 2 06:26:04 EST 1998 Article: 15126 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hk1beeman@aol.com (Hk1BeeMan) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Newbee Questions Continued Lines: 48 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 29 Nov 1998 14:01:12 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <73pbut$otd$1@usenet43.supernews.com> Message-ID: <19981129090112.10541.00001940@ng-cf1.aol.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15126 >Question Asked was: >1. I saw the online store site mentioned earlier. They have a starter kit. >Does this kit contain everything that you really need to get started or is >it a $125 that requires an additional $500 worth of stuff to really get >started? This kit doesn't have any sort of suit: just a hood. Is a suit just >a luxury item? > >Answer: >Beekeeping like any activity can be as expensive as you can afford. A >starter kit from Blossomland Supply (www.blossomland.com) costs $129 and >comes with a Veil with a builtin hat. You could upgrade to a mesh hat and a >folding veil or a full suit with zipper veil. The choice here is entirely >up to your comfort level with the bees. I would recommend a full suit to >all who may not be sure though. I personally use a full suit when I work >the bees just to be sure that I am protected well if I need to be. If not >then no harm done to me!! I like that idea. > oH COME NOW please I 've been in the biz for bout 4 yrs now, with mentors that are in their 80's keeping bees for about 70 of those years. I cant see forking out 100+ bucks for a suit, couldn't afford it either. try this: ...... brushy mountain bee farm 1-800-beeswax Beginners kit 125.00 < veil,hat box,frames bottom ,tops, covers,feeder, hive tool, smoker etc.....> one more hive body to serve as your first years super( all this gets your bees through their first winter) 30.00 w/ frames and foundation. wear a pair of light colored jogging pants over your jeans, be sure to wear socks and shoes. Wear a long sleeved shirt buttoned, with white tee shirt over it, tie your veil tightly under the shirt collar just like a mans tie. I'm assuming almost everyone has the pants and shirt etc.... Ok so there you are in the bee biz. 125.00 30.00 35.00 for a 3 lb pkg of bees w/queen --------- 190.00 actual physical start up cost Hopefully beekeepers in your area will sell you enough meds for a single hive if not, you mail me and i'll see what i can do !! Kevin Johnson, Big Johnson Beekeeping, Lillington NC From andy.nachbaur@calwest.net Wed Dec 2 06:26:04 EST 1998 Article: 15118 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: andy.nachbaur@calwest.net (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: "kill a beekeeper" BS from USDA Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:04:16 GMT Organization: Wild Bee's Information Service Reply-To: andy.nachbaur@calwest.net Message-ID: <366080f0.3165658@news.jps.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.142.59.45 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.142.59.45 Lines: 26 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.63.114.134 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.cwix.com!207.0.56.122!news.eli.net!blushng.jps.net!209.142.59.45 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15118 11.28 Latest line of Bee Pest Control BS with the help of the Steve Buchmann of the USDA Carl Hayden Bee Research Center. "Even if you exterminated every honeybee and all the Africanized bees, we would not be out the window in terms of pollination because of these native bees.'' "Pollination unlikely to suffer from bee losses" never better said by any DUSTY and this one's on our payroll. I for one will remember that next time they need a friend to help get more public funding. How easy it is to stomp on a flat cat, but how those cats do recover! Remember those famous lies, will add one more. "I am here from the Carl Hayen Honey Bee Research Center and I am here to help you beekeepers." Yeah you bet, and so is Dr. Death! You can find the full story at http://beenet.com/bnews.htm Chow, the OLd Drone http://beenet.com Left Coast, Republic of America ICBM Target Info removed for security reasons (c)Permission is given to copy this document in any form, or to print for any use. (w)OPINIONS are not necessarily facts. USE AT OWN RISK! From hk1beeman@aol.com Wed Dec 2 06:26:05 EST 1998 Article: 15125 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hk1beeman@aol.com (Hk1BeeMan) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: "kill a beekeeper" BS from USDA Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 29 Nov 1998 13:47:49 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <366080f0.3165658@news.jps.net> Message-ID: <19981129084749.10541.00001939@ng-cf1.aol.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15125 >rl Hayden Bee Research >Center. "Even if you exterminated every honeybee and all the >Africanized bees, we would not be out the window in terms of >pollination because of these native bees.'' "Pollination unlikely to >suffer from bee losses" never better said by any DUSTY and this one's >on our payroll. I for one will remember that next time they need a >friend to help get more public funding. > >How easy it is to stomp on a flat cat, but how those cats do recover! >Remember those famous lies, will add one more. "I am here from the >Carl Hayen Honey Bee Research Center and I am here to help you >beekeep STONE THE BASTARD !!!!!!!! Kevin Johnson, Big Johnson Beekeeping, Lillington NC From jcaldeira@earthlink.net Wed Dec 2 06:26:06 EST 1998 Article: 15127 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!nntp.earthlink.net!posted-from-earthlink!not-for-mail From: jcaldeira@earthlink.net (John Caldeira) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: "kill a beekeeper" BS from USDA Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:49:28 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <366080f0.3165658@news.jps.net> X-Posted-Path-Was: not-for-mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ELN-Date: 29 Nov 1998 14:47:33 GMT X-ELN-Insert-Date: Sun Nov 29 06:55:06 1998 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Lines: 29 Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Host: sdn-ar-002txdallp284.dialsprint.net Message-ID: <366659d3.47907838@news.earthlink.net> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15127 andy.nachbaur@calwest.net (Andy Nachbaur) wrote: > 11.28 Latest line of Bee Pest Control BS with the >help of the Steve Buchmann of the USDA Carl Hayden Bee Research >Center. "Even if you exterminated every honeybee and all the >Africanized bees, we would not be out the window in terms of >pollination because of these native bees.'' "Pollination unlikely to >suffer from bee losses" never better said by any DUSTY and this one's >on our payroll. I for one will remember that next time they need a >friend to help get more public funding. > We may not like what we read, but I appreciate that our USDA scientists give their honest opinions and present objective research results. We risk tainting scientific research if future funding is influenced by whether they get "politically correct" results. It is appropriate to influence the kinds of research that use public funding so that it addresses the right problems, but we should expect nothing less than unbiased conclusions (even if it hurts sometimes). In general, I think the USDA is doing a great job for beekeepers with mite control and in other applied research areas. -John John Caldeira Dallas, Texas jcaldeira@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~jcaldeira/beekeeping/ From adamf@vt.edu Wed Dec 2 06:26:06 EST 1998 Article: 15130 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!outfeed1.news.cais.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail From: adamf@golux.radix.net (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: "kill a beekeeper" BS from USDA Date: 30 Nov 1998 18:39:29 -0000 Organization: Self-Organized. Dig that. Lines: 33 Message-ID: <73uop1$n1r$1@golux.radix.net> References: <366659d3.47907838@news.earthlink.net> <19981130154629.08477.00000411@ng-ch1.aol.com> Reply-To: adamf@vt.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: port27.annex4.radix.net Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15130 In article <19981130154629.08477.00000411@ng-ch1.aol.com>, >Spending time in a research lab and time in the field doing work are two >entirely different things as you are well aware. The numbers though which are >combined to form research are out of the most controlled situations which are >made available, however there are numerous factors which can vary which could >ultimatly effect the outcome of research (weather being a VERY important one). > >Whatever the results of research, we should always be aware that these are only >one group or individuals results. I have done numerous research projects where >the results have contradicted what the "mainstream" is reporting. Even though >this can be attributed to several factors, the fact remains the same that >results can vary from experiment to experiment even when conducted identically >in the same institution under the same procedure and guidelines. Hummmm. Then I'd say that you've got some problems somewhere. When one designs a research program one doesn't want to have biased results--that would not be significant and this is why one employs experimental designs and utilizes statistics to minimize the biases--or variability. Since the more variability one has in research the further >from the truth one is-- Although researchers can design excellent experiments, and do great statistics on them, they can also be absolutely clueless about how the research subjects act in the real world--I think this is what happens more in research than the data manipulation you were describing. Adam -- Adam Finkelstein adamf@vt.edu http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees/adamf From ccjm@connectnet.com Wed Dec 2 06:26:07 EST 1998 Article: 15124 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!207.110.0.61!news.connectnet.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <366107F3.D7061789@connectnet.com> From: cathy cronkhite/Jack McCullough X-Sender: "cathy cronkhite/Jack McCullough" <@smtp.connectnet.com> (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-gatewaynet (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Beekeeping in San Diego Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 7 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:38:11 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.251.151.195 X-Trace: news.connectnet.com 912324947 206.251.151.195 (Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:35:47 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:35:47 PDT Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15124 I recently moved to a new home with plenty of land for beekeeping. I want to start a couple of hives this spring and was wondering what time of year would be the best. I'm in eastern San Diego, any advice from local beekeepers will be greatly appreciated. Jack McCullough ccjm@connectnet.com From urrw@skynet.be Wed Dec 2 06:26:07 EST 1998 Article: 15128 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!nntp.primenet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!skynet.be!poster!not-for-mail From: "Emmanuel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Protection of the wood of the hives Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:24:54 +0100 Organization: Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Lines: 13 Message-ID: <73sees$e8g$1@news1.skynet.be> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup173.wavre.skynet.be X-Trace: news1.skynet.be 912375068 14608 195.238.10.173 (29 Nov 1998 21:31:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@skynet.be NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Nov 1998 21:31:08 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15128 Hello with all! For the people using the impregnation with microcrystalline wax for the protection of the hives, exist a means of colouring wood? Which product is necessary to use? Which is the procedure to be followed? Does somebody have experience in the field? Thank you in advance for the answer. In a friendly way. Emmanuel HAUBRUGE Belgium urrw@skynet.be From beeman@kingston.net Wed Dec 2 06:26:08 EST 1998 Article: 15129 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!nyc-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!feeder.qis.net!newsfeed-east.supernews.com!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: Kent Stienburg Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: weather Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:10:16 -0800 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com - Discussions start here! Lines: 12 Message-ID: <366228B8.7BF3@kingston.net> Reply-To: beeman@kingston.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.210.52.98 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 912391510 VRL06/YYI3462CDD2C usenet54.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win16; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15129 Hi All, Has anyone else been experiencing warmer then usual temperatures? I live in Southeastern Ontario Canada and it was 10 C (50 f) on Saturday. The last few days have been nice. Today was cloudy and cool, but not typical end of November weather. The bees were flying around the hive looking for something to do. If the winter is starting this mild what will the end of the winter be like? I hope there is no freezing rain. The ice storm we had last year was certainly something I can live without!! Good luck. Kent Stienburg From logcabin@qaiusqa.com Wed Dec 2 06:26:25 EST 1998 Article: 15122 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: "logcabin" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: immersion heaters Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 17:48:03 -0500 Lines: 16 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.133.252.210 Message-ID: <365896a9.0@news.aiusa.com> Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!nyc-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.71.1.51!spamkiller2.cwix.com!pull-feed.cwix.com!news.aiusa.com!208.133.252.210 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15122 Might anyone know how long it would take to heat a 55 gal drum of liquid with an immersion heater like the kind that Mann Lake offers at $55.95 (page#17,item HD-335)? thanks, steve logcabin@qaiusqa.com {remove the q's to respond personally....NO_SPAM} From rheart@wave.co.nz Wed Dec 2 06:26:26 EST 1998 Article: 15111 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news3 From: rheart@wave.co.nz Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: does anyone have plans for hand honey extactor Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 06:50:59 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 1 Message-ID: <365ba897.674531@news.newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-564.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.326 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15111 From carmcarb@tin.it Wed Dec 2 06:26:26 EST 1998 Article: 15112 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news1.tor.metronet.ca!news1.mtl.metronet.ca!Pollux.Teleglobe.net!server-b.cs.interbusiness.it!news.tin.it!not-for-mail From: "Carmela Carbonaro" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: RED SICILIANS ORANGES. 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------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BE18B5.3351D220-- From phempel@blossomland.com Wed Dec 2 06:26:27 EST 1998 Article: 15113 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Problem with German yellowjackets in apt! Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:25:41 -0500 Organization: Blossomland Supply Lines: 15 Message-ID: <73hp4f$3b6$1@usenet49.supernews.com> References: <73e7g4$1pti$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com> Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" X-Trace: 912025551 OWV4KGLQPD 2BD1AC usenet49.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15113 Check out the webstore at www.blossomland.com for the Gettum' Gone Spray. Or call 800.637.5262. Works on all insects especially yellow jackets and hornets. Spray the entry areas in the evening and by the next night they are all dead. The insects themselves track in the poison and contaminate the brood area. Works great and one can will do over two nests easily. Philip M Hempel beeyard@blossomland.com > From phempel@blossomland.com Wed Dec 2 06:26:27 EST 1998 Article: 15119 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!rochester!news.eecis.udel.edu!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.44.33.119!hub1.ispnews.com!news3.ispnews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <73e7g4$1pti$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com> <365D6F46.D7A8E486@bigfoot.com> Subject: Re: Problem with German yellowjackets in apt! Lines: 11 Organization: Blossomland Supply X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:08:02 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.172.13.63 X-Trace: news3.ispnews.com 912272882 209.172.13.63 (Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:08:02 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:08:02 EDT Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15119 Check out the product Gettum Gone for yellow jacket and wasp problems. Just spray the entry area of the hive from 12 feet away or less (in building, trees, bushes or in ground) the residual chemical is tracked into the brood chamber by the workers coming and going from the entrance. Within 24 - 36 hours the brood and yellow jackets/wasp are all dead. Works great! Find this at www.blossomland.com online with over 1000+ items to securely order from your computer. Or call 800-637-5262. From chucklaser@aol.com Wed Dec 2 06:26:28 EST 1998 Article: 15109 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: chucklaser@aol.com (ChuckLaser) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Too many bees and no honey. HELP Lines: 12 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 28 Nov 1998 02:49:10 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19981127214910.23453.00001677@ng17.aol.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15109 We live in the midwest on the Iowa and Illinois border. I have one great looking hive, which was a fresh split this spring and the original hive which seems to be out of honey already, but chock full of bees. When installing the apistan strips, I noticed it was a little low, but when I removed them, all obvious signs of honey were gone. The hive was quite light weight. I suspect this was because I used a Queen excluder and it filled up with brood. We have had exceptionally warm weather, highs in the mid 60's this month..way too warm. I installed a division feeder full of their honey in hopes they would store it in the comb while the weather holds. I wish I had some full frames to give them, but I don't. I also don't want to screw up the other really good hive by combining or anything. Any neat tricks to solve this type of problem? Chuck From hk1beeman@aol.com Wed Dec 2 06:26:29 EST 1998 Article: 15110 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hk1beeman@aol.com (Hk1BeeMan) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Too many bees and no honey. HELP Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 28 Nov 1998 03:04:29 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <19981127214910.23453.00001677@ng17.aol.com> Message-ID: <19981127220429.18083.00001654@ng114.aol.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15110 >y >combining or anything. Any neat tricks to solve this type of problem? >Chuck > > > Three words.... FEED, FEED, FEED !!!!!!! Kevin Johnson, Big Johnson Beekeeping, Lillington NC From rheart@wave.co.nz Wed Dec 2 06:26:29 EST 1998 Article: 15114 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 From: rheart@wave.co.nz (kev) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: honey extracters Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 08:31:17 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 1 Message-ID: <365fb49b.6924897@news.newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-521.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15114 has anyone got a plan of a honey extracter From phempel@blossomland.com Wed Dec 2 06:26:30 EST 1998 Article: 15115 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.44.33.119!hub1.ispnews.com!news3.ispnews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <365fb49b.6924897@news.newsguy.com> Subject: Re: honey extracters Lines: 11 Organization: Blossomland Supply X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Message-ID: <01W72.324$Fr2.1251@news3.ispnews.com> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:02:48 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.172.13.63 X-Trace: news3.ispnews.com 912272572 209.172.13.63 (Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:02:52 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:02:52 EDT Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15115 Check the webstore at www.blossomland.com . Plans for building your own extractor and beehive equipment and over 1000+ other items for and from the beehive, can be purchased there safe and secure online. Check it out I think you will like it. kev wrote in message <365fb49b.6924897@news.newsguy.com>... >has anyone got a plan of a honey extracter From lithar@midwest.net Wed Dec 2 06:26:31 EST 1998 Article: 15117 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: AL Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: honey extracters Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:17:01 -0800 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com - Discussions start here! Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3660765D.49AB@midwest.net> References: <365fb49b.6924897@news.newsguy.com> <01W72.324$Fr2.1251@news3.ispnews.com> Reply-To: lithar@midwest.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.235.28.11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 912284429 .ZFUVYH4M1CB D0EBC usenet80.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15117 Philip M. Hempel wrote: > > Check the webstore at www.blossomland.com . Plans for building your own > extractor and beehive equipment and over 1000+ other items for and from the > beehive, can be purchased there safe and secure online. A couple of locations for freebee do-it-yourself plans and ideas: http://www.birkey.com/BLB/Beekeeping/index.html http://www.concordnc.com/tohill/bees/beeinfo.htm The Birkey site has the extractor plans. AL From na@na.com.au Wed Dec 2 06:26:31 EST 1998 Article: 15123 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!nntp.primenet.com!Supernews60!supernews.com!ihug.co.nz!news.tig.com.au!not-for-mail From: Samovar Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: hives for sale in sydney Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 21:57:50 +1100 Organization: Vlast Industries Lines: 5 Message-ID: <365FD72E.3865@na.com.au> Reply-To: na@na.com.au NNTP-Posting-Host: p60-nas4.syd.ihug.com.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15123 2 beehives for sale in lidcombe area of sydney. $100 each, negotiable. Also extra racks free with hives. Hives are full of 2 seasons of honey. Please email : samovar@tig.com.au From phempel@blossomland.com Wed Dec 2 06:26:32 EST 1998 Article: 15121 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!rochester!news.eecis.udel.edu!netnews.com!newsfeed.corridex.com!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey Labels Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:13:16 -0500 Organization: Blossomland Supply Lines: 17 Message-ID: <73pavj$riv$1@usenet46.supernews.com> References: <4w8%1.421$CM.2615@newsfeed.slurp.net> Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" X-Trace: 912273203 OWV4KGLQPD 3FD1AC usenet46.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15121 If you want to have preprinted labels call R & M Farms in Michigan at 313.722.7727. Self sticking good quality labels. Will print small batches of 1000 and has many preprinted speciality lables to help sell your honey. If you want to just use a generic lable check out the lables at www.blossomland.com Three sizes to fit your container needs. Michael Scott Meiners wrote in message <4w8%1.421$CM.2615@newsfeed.slurp.net>... >I've finaly run out of honey jar labels which my dad bought in bulk back in >the 80's. I'm looking to but some more but I can not find anybody that >sells them. Any suggestions on where to look? Thanks, >-Mike > > From phempel@blossomland.com Wed Dec 2 06:26:32 EST 1998 Article: 15116 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Looking for beeswax to buy Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:18:42 -0500 Organization: Blossomland Supply Lines: 14 Message-ID: <73pb9k$rbm$1@usenet41.supernews.com> References: <710nln$ls0$1@sparky.wolfe.net> Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" X-Trace: 912273524 OWV4KGLQPD 3FD1AC usenet41.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15116 For beeswax both refined and not refined check out the webstore at www.blossomland.com. Beeswax and and much more found here. Order online or call 800.637.5262. >Sara and Tom Moore >Rustic Charm Candle Company >Mill Creek, Washington >tnsmoore@wolfenet.com > > > > From phempel@blossomland.com Wed Dec 2 06:26:33 EST 1998 Article: 15120 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!rochester!news.eecis.udel.edu!netnews.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Newbee Questions Continued Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:30:57 -0500 Organization: Blossomland Supply Lines: 19 Message-ID: <73pbut$otd$1@usenet43.supernews.com> Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" X-Trace: 912274205 OWV4KGLQPD 3FD1AC usenet43.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15120 Question Asked was: 1. I saw the online store site mentioned earlier. They have a starter kit. Does this kit contain everything that you really need to get started or is it a $125 that requires an additional $500 worth of stuff to really get started? This kit doesn't have any sort of suit: just a hood. Is a suit just a luxury item? Answer: Beekeeping like any activity can be as expensive as you can afford. A starter kit from Blossomland Supply (www.blossomland.com) costs $129 and comes with a Veil with a builtin hat. You could upgrade to a mesh hat and a folding veil or a full suit with zipper veil. The choice here is entirely up to your comfort level with the bees. I would recommend a full suit to all who may not be sure though. I personally use a full suit when I work the bees just to be sure that I am protected well if I need to be. If not then no harm done to me!! I like that idea. From hk1beeman@aol.com Wed Dec 2 06:26:33 EST 1998 Article: 15126 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hk1beeman@aol.com (Hk1BeeMan) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Newbee Questions Continued Lines: 48 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 29 Nov 1998 14:01:12 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <73pbut$otd$1@usenet43.supernews.com> Message-ID: <19981129090112.10541.00001940@ng-cf1.aol.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15126 >Question Asked was: >1. I saw the online store site mentioned earlier. They have a starter kit. >Does this kit contain everything that you really need to get started or is >it a $125 that requires an additional $500 worth of stuff to really get >started? This kit doesn't have any sort of suit: just a hood. Is a suit just >a luxury item? > >Answer: >Beekeeping like any activity can be as expensive as you can afford. A >starter kit from Blossomland Supply (www.blossomland.com) costs $129 and >comes with a Veil with a builtin hat. You could upgrade to a mesh hat and a >folding veil or a full suit with zipper veil. The choice here is entirely >up to your comfort level with the bees. I would recommend a full suit to >all who may not be sure though. I personally use a full suit when I work >the bees just to be sure that I am protected well if I need to be. If not >then no harm done to me!! I like that idea. > oH COME NOW please I 've been in the biz for bout 4 yrs now, with mentors that are in their 80's keeping bees for about 70 of those years. I cant see forking out 100+ bucks for a suit, couldn't afford it either. try this: ...... brushy mountain bee farm 1-800-beeswax Beginners kit 125.00 < veil,hat box,frames bottom ,tops, covers,feeder, hive tool, smoker etc.....> one more hive body to serve as your first years super( all this gets your bees through their first winter) 30.00 w/ frames and foundation. wear a pair of light colored jogging pants over your jeans, be sure to wear socks and shoes. Wear a long sleeved shirt buttoned, with white tee shirt over it, tie your veil tightly under the shirt collar just like a mans tie. I'm assuming almost everyone has the pants and shirt etc.... Ok so there you are in the bee biz. 125.00 30.00 35.00 for a 3 lb pkg of bees w/queen --------- 190.00 actual physical start up cost Hopefully beekeepers in your area will sell you enough meds for a single hive if not, you mail me and i'll see what i can do !! Kevin Johnson, Big Johnson Beekeeping, Lillington NC From andy.nachbaur@calwest.net Wed Dec 2 06:26:34 EST 1998 Article: 15118 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: andy.nachbaur@calwest.net (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: "kill a beekeeper" BS from USDA Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:04:16 GMT Organization: Wild Bee's Information Service Reply-To: andy.nachbaur@calwest.net Message-ID: <366080f0.3165658@news.jps.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.142.59.45 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.142.59.45 Lines: 26 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.63.114.134 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.cwix.com!207.0.56.122!news.eli.net!blushng.jps.net!209.142.59.45 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15118 11.28 Latest line of Bee Pest Control BS with the help of the Steve Buchmann of the USDA Carl Hayden Bee Research Center. "Even if you exterminated every honeybee and all the Africanized bees, we would not be out the window in terms of pollination because of these native bees.'' "Pollination unlikely to suffer from bee losses" never better said by any DUSTY and this one's on our payroll. I for one will remember that next time they need a friend to help get more public funding. How easy it is to stomp on a flat cat, but how those cats do recover! Remember those famous lies, will add one more. "I am here from the Carl Hayen Honey Bee Research Center and I am here to help you beekeepers." Yeah you bet, and so is Dr. Death! You can find the full story at http://beenet.com/bnews.htm Chow, the OLd Drone http://beenet.com Left Coast, Republic of America ICBM Target Info removed for security reasons (c)Permission is given to copy this document in any form, or to print for any use. (w)OPINIONS are not necessarily facts. USE AT OWN RISK! From hk1beeman@aol.com Wed Dec 2 06:26:35 EST 1998 Article: 15125 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hk1beeman@aol.com (Hk1BeeMan) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: "kill a beekeeper" BS from USDA Lines: 15 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 29 Nov 1998 13:47:49 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <366080f0.3165658@news.jps.net> Message-ID: <19981129084749.10541.00001939@ng-cf1.aol.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15125 >rl Hayden Bee Research >Center. "Even if you exterminated every honeybee and all the >Africanized bees, we would not be out the window in terms of >pollination because of these native bees.'' "Pollination unlikely to >suffer from bee losses" never better said by any DUSTY and this one's >on our payroll. I for one will remember that next time they need a >friend to help get more public funding. > >How easy it is to stomp on a flat cat, but how those cats do recover! >Remember those famous lies, will add one more. "I am here from the >Carl Hayen Honey Bee Research Center and I am here to help you >beekeep STONE THE BASTARD !!!!!!!! Kevin Johnson, Big Johnson Beekeeping, Lillington NC From jcaldeira@earthlink.net Wed Dec 2 06:26:35 EST 1998 Article: 15127 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!nntp.earthlink.net!posted-from-earthlink!not-for-mail From: jcaldeira@earthlink.net (John Caldeira) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: "kill a beekeeper" BS from USDA Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 14:49:28 GMT Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <366080f0.3165658@news.jps.net> X-Posted-Path-Was: not-for-mail Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-ELN-Date: 29 Nov 1998 14:47:33 GMT X-ELN-Insert-Date: Sun Nov 29 06:55:06 1998 Organization: EarthLink Network, Inc. X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Lines: 29 Mime-Version: 1.0 NNTP-Posting-Host: sdn-ar-002txdallp284.dialsprint.net Message-ID: <366659d3.47907838@news.earthlink.net> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15127 andy.nachbaur@calwest.net (Andy Nachbaur) wrote: > 11.28 Latest line of Bee Pest Control BS with the >help of the Steve Buchmann of the USDA Carl Hayden Bee Research >Center. "Even if you exterminated every honeybee and all the >Africanized bees, we would not be out the window in terms of >pollination because of these native bees.'' "Pollination unlikely to >suffer from bee losses" never better said by any DUSTY and this one's >on our payroll. I for one will remember that next time they need a >friend to help get more public funding. > We may not like what we read, but I appreciate that our USDA scientists give their honest opinions and present objective research results. We risk tainting scientific research if future funding is influenced by whether they get "politically correct" results. It is appropriate to influence the kinds of research that use public funding so that it addresses the right problems, but we should expect nothing less than unbiased conclusions (even if it hurts sometimes). In general, I think the USDA is doing a great job for beekeepers with mite control and in other applied research areas. -John John Caldeira Dallas, Texas jcaldeira@earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~jcaldeira/beekeeping/ From adamf@vt.edu Wed Dec 2 06:26:36 EST 1998 Article: 15130 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!outfeed1.news.cais.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail From: adamf@golux.radix.net (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: "kill a beekeeper" BS from USDA Date: 30 Nov 1998 18:39:29 -0000 Organization: Self-Organized. Dig that. Lines: 33 Message-ID: <73uop1$n1r$1@golux.radix.net> References: <366659d3.47907838@news.earthlink.net> <19981130154629.08477.00000411@ng-ch1.aol.com> Reply-To: adamf@vt.edu NNTP-Posting-Host: port27.annex4.radix.net Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15130 In article <19981130154629.08477.00000411@ng-ch1.aol.com>, >Spending time in a research lab and time in the field doing work are two >entirely different things as you are well aware. The numbers though which are >combined to form research are out of the most controlled situations which are >made available, however there are numerous factors which can vary which could >ultimatly effect the outcome of research (weather being a VERY important one). > >Whatever the results of research, we should always be aware that these are only >one group or individuals results. I have done numerous research projects where >the results have contradicted what the "mainstream" is reporting. Even though >this can be attributed to several factors, the fact remains the same that >results can vary from experiment to experiment even when conducted identically >in the same institution under the same procedure and guidelines. Hummmm. Then I'd say that you've got some problems somewhere. When one designs a research program one doesn't want to have biased results--that would not be significant and this is why one employs experimental designs and utilizes statistics to minimize the biases--or variability. Since the more variability one has in research the further >from the truth one is-- Although researchers can design excellent experiments, and do great statistics on them, they can also be absolutely clueless about how the research subjects act in the real world--I think this is what happens more in research than the data manipulation you were describing. Adam -- Adam Finkelstein adamf@vt.edu http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees/adamf From ccjm@connectnet.com Wed Dec 2 06:26:36 EST 1998 Article: 15124 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!207.110.0.61!news.connectnet.com!not-for-mail Message-ID: <366107F3.D7061789@connectnet.com> From: cathy cronkhite/Jack McCullough X-Sender: "cathy cronkhite/Jack McCullough" <@smtp.connectnet.com> (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-gatewaynet (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Beekeeping in San Diego Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 7 Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 00:38:11 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.251.151.195 X-Trace: news.connectnet.com 912324947 206.251.151.195 (Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:35:47 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 23:35:47 PDT Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15124 I recently moved to a new home with plenty of land for beekeeping. I want to start a couple of hives this spring and was wondering what time of year would be the best. I'm in eastern San Diego, any advice from local beekeepers will be greatly appreciated. Jack McCullough ccjm@connectnet.com From urrw@skynet.be Wed Dec 2 06:26:37 EST 1998 Article: 15128 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!nntp.primenet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!digex!skynet.be!poster!not-for-mail From: "Emmanuel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Protection of the wood of the hives Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 22:24:54 +0100 Organization: Belgacom Skynet SA/NV Lines: 13 Message-ID: <73sees$e8g$1@news1.skynet.be> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup173.wavre.skynet.be X-Trace: news1.skynet.be 912375068 14608 195.238.10.173 (29 Nov 1998 21:31:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@skynet.be NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Nov 1998 21:31:08 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15128 Hello with all! For the people using the impregnation with microcrystalline wax for the protection of the hives, exist a means of colouring wood? Which product is necessary to use? Which is the procedure to be followed? Does somebody have experience in the field? Thank you in advance for the answer. In a friendly way. Emmanuel HAUBRUGE Belgium urrw@skynet.be From beeman@kingston.net Wed Dec 2 06:26:37 EST 1998 Article: 15129 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!nyc-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!feeder.qis.net!newsfeed-east.supernews.com!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: Kent Stienburg Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: weather Date: Sun, 29 Nov 1998 21:10:16 -0800 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com - Discussions start here! Lines: 12 Message-ID: <366228B8.7BF3@kingston.net> Reply-To: beeman@kingston.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 205.210.52.98 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 912391510 VRL06/YYI3462CDD2C usenet54.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.04 (Win16; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15129 Hi All, Has anyone else been experiencing warmer then usual temperatures? I live in Southeastern Ontario Canada and it was 10 C (50 f) on Saturday. The last few days have been nice. Today was cloudy and cool, but not typical end of November weather. The bees were flying around the hive looking for something to do. If the winter is starting this mild what will the end of the winter be like? I hope there is no freezing rain. The ice storm we had last year was certainly something I can live without!! Good luck. Kent Stienburg From logcabin@qaiusqa.com Wed Dec 2 06:34:12 EST 1998 Article: 15122 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: "logcabin" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: immersion heaters Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1998 17:48:03 -0500 Lines: 16 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.133.252.210 Message-ID: <365896a9.0@news.aiusa.com> Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!nyc-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!204.71.1.51!spamkiller2.cwix.com!pull-feed.cwix.com!news.aiusa.com!208.133.252.210 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15122 Might anyone know how long it would take to heat a 55 gal drum of liquid with an immersion heater like the kind that Mann Lake offers at $55.95 (page#17,item HD-335)? thanks, steve logcabin@qaiusqa.com {remove the q's to respond personally....NO_SPAM} From rheart@wave.co.nz Wed Dec 2 06:34:13 EST 1998 Article: 15111 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news3 From: rheart@wave.co.nz Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: does anyone have plans for hand honey extactor Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 06:50:59 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 1 Message-ID: <365ba897.674531@news.newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-564.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent .99g/32.326 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15111 From carmcarb@tin.it Wed Dec 2 06:34:14 EST 1998 Article: 15112 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!cyclone.news.idirect.com!island.idirect.com!news1.tor.metronet.ca!news1.mtl.metronet.ca!Pollux.Teleglobe.net!server-b.cs.interbusiness.it!news.tin.it!not-for-mail From: "Carmela Carbonaro" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: RED SICILIANS ORANGES. 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------=_NextPart_000_0038_01BE18B5.3351D220-- From phempel@blossomland.com Wed Dec 2 06:34:14 EST 1998 Article: 15113 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Problem with German yellowjackets in apt! Date: Wed, 25 Nov 1998 15:25:41 -0500 Organization: Blossomland Supply Lines: 15 Message-ID: <73hp4f$3b6$1@usenet49.supernews.com> References: <73e7g4$1pti$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com> Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" X-Trace: 912025551 OWV4KGLQPD 2BD1AC usenet49.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15113 Check out the webstore at www.blossomland.com for the Gettum' Gone Spray. Or call 800.637.5262. Works on all insects especially yellow jackets and hornets. Spray the entry areas in the evening and by the next night they are all dead. The insects themselves track in the poison and contaminate the brood area. Works great and one can will do over two nests easily. Philip M Hempel beeyard@blossomland.com > From phempel@blossomland.com Wed Dec 2 06:34:15 EST 1998 Article: 15119 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!rochester!news.eecis.udel.edu!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.44.33.119!hub1.ispnews.com!news3.ispnews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <73e7g4$1pti$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com> <365D6F46.D7A8E486@bigfoot.com> Subject: Re: Problem with German yellowjackets in apt! Lines: 11 Organization: Blossomland Supply X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Message-ID: Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:08:02 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.172.13.63 X-Trace: news3.ispnews.com 912272882 209.172.13.63 (Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:08:02 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:08:02 EDT Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15119 Check out the product Gettum Gone for yellow jacket and wasp problems. Just spray the entry area of the hive from 12 feet away or less (in building, trees, bushes or in ground) the residual chemical is tracked into the brood chamber by the workers coming and going from the entrance. Within 24 - 36 hours the brood and yellow jackets/wasp are all dead. Works great! Find this at www.blossomland.com online with over 1000+ items to securely order from your computer. Or call 800-637-5262. From chucklaser@aol.com Wed Dec 2 06:34:15 EST 1998 Article: 15109 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: chucklaser@aol.com (ChuckLaser) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Too many bees and no honey. HELP Lines: 12 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 28 Nov 1998 02:49:10 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19981127214910.23453.00001677@ng17.aol.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15109 We live in the midwest on the Iowa and Illinois border. I have one great looking hive, which was a fresh split this spring and the original hive which seems to be out of honey already, but chock full of bees. When installing the apistan strips, I noticed it was a little low, but when I removed them, all obvious signs of honey were gone. The hive was quite light weight. I suspect this was because I used a Queen excluder and it filled up with brood. We have had exceptionally warm weather, highs in the mid 60's this month..way too warm. I installed a division feeder full of their honey in hopes they would store it in the comb while the weather holds. I wish I had some full frames to give them, but I don't. I also don't want to screw up the other really good hive by combining or anything. Any neat tricks to solve this type of problem? Chuck From hk1beeman@aol.com Wed Dec 2 06:34:16 EST 1998 Article: 15110 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hk1beeman@aol.com (Hk1BeeMan) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Too many bees and no honey. HELP Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 28 Nov 1998 03:04:29 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <19981127214910.23453.00001677@ng17.aol.com> Message-ID: <19981127220429.18083.00001654@ng114.aol.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15110 >y >combining or anything. Any neat tricks to solve this type of problem? >Chuck > > > Three words.... FEED, FEED, FEED !!!!!!! Kevin Johnson, Big Johnson Beekeeping, Lillington NC From rheart@wave.co.nz Wed Dec 2 06:34:16 EST 1998 Article: 15114 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!news1 From: rheart@wave.co.nz (kev) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: honey extracters Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 08:31:17 GMT Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 1 Message-ID: <365fb49b.6924897@news.newsguy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p-521.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15114 has anyone got a plan of a honey extracter From phempel@blossomland.com Wed Dec 2 06:34:17 EST 1998 Article: 15115 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!209.44.33.119!hub1.ispnews.com!news3.ispnews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <365fb49b.6924897@news.newsguy.com> Subject: Re: honey extracters Lines: 11 Organization: Blossomland Supply X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Message-ID: <01W72.324$Fr2.1251@news3.ispnews.com> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:02:48 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.172.13.63 X-Trace: news3.ispnews.com 912272572 209.172.13.63 (Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:02:52 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:02:52 EDT Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15115 Check the webstore at www.blossomland.com . Plans for building your own extractor and beehive equipment and over 1000+ other items for and from the beehive, can be purchased there safe and secure online. Check it out I think you will like it. kev wrote in message <365fb49b.6924897@news.newsguy.com>... >has anyone got a plan of a honey extracter From lithar@midwest.net Wed Dec 2 06:34:17 EST 1998 Article: 15117 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: AL Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: honey extracters Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 14:17:01 -0800 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com - Discussions start here! Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3660765D.49AB@midwest.net> References: <365fb49b.6924897@news.newsguy.com> <01W72.324$Fr2.1251@news3.ispnews.com> Reply-To: lithar@midwest.net NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.235.28.11 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 912284429 .ZFUVYH4M1CB D0EBC usenet80.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15117 Philip M. Hempel wrote: > > Check the webstore at www.blossomland.com . Plans for building your own > extractor and beehive equipment and over 1000+ other items for and from the > beehive, can be purchased there safe and secure online. A couple of locations for freebee do-it-yourself plans and ideas: http://www.birkey.com/BLB/Beekeeping/index.html http://www.concordnc.com/tohill/bees/beeinfo.htm The Birkey site has the extractor plans. AL From na@na.com.au Wed Dec 2 06:34:18 EST 1998 Article: 15123 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!nntp.primenet.com!Supernews60!supernews.com!ihug.co.nz!news.tig.com.au!not-for-mail From: Samovar Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: hives for sale in sydney Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 21:57:50 +1100 Organization: Vlast Industries Lines: 5 Message-ID: <365FD72E.3865@na.com.au> Reply-To: na@na.com.au NNTP-Posting-Host: p60-nas4.syd.ihug.com.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15123 2 beehives for sale in lidcombe area of sydney. $100 each, negotiable. Also extra racks free with hives. Hives are full of 2 seasons of honey. Please email : samovar@tig.com.au From phempel@blossomland.com Wed Dec 2 06:34:19 EST 1998 Article: 15121 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!rochester!news.eecis.udel.edu!netnews.com!newsfeed.corridex.com!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey Labels Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:13:16 -0500 Organization: Blossomland Supply Lines: 17 Message-ID: <73pavj$riv$1@usenet46.supernews.com> References: <4w8%1.421$CM.2615@newsfeed.slurp.net> Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" X-Trace: 912273203 OWV4KGLQPD 3FD1AC usenet46.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15121 If you want to have preprinted labels call R & M Farms in Michigan at 313.722.7727. Self sticking good quality labels. Will print small batches of 1000 and has many preprinted speciality lables to help sell your honey. If you want to just use a generic lable check out the lables at www.blossomland.com Three sizes to fit your container needs. Michael Scott Meiners wrote in message <4w8%1.421$CM.2615@newsfeed.slurp.net>... >I've finaly run out of honey jar labels which my dad bought in bulk back in >the 80's. I'm looking to but some more but I can not find anybody that >sells them. Any suggestions on where to look? Thanks, >-Mike > > From phempel@blossomland.com Wed Dec 2 06:34:19 EST 1998 Article: 15116 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Looking for beeswax to buy Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:18:42 -0500 Organization: Blossomland Supply Lines: 14 Message-ID: <73pb9k$rbm$1@usenet41.supernews.com> References: <710nln$ls0$1@sparky.wolfe.net> Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" X-Trace: 912273524 OWV4KGLQPD 3FD1AC usenet41.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15116 For beeswax both refined and not refined check out the webstore at www.blossomland.com. Beeswax and and much more found here. Order online or call 800.637.5262. >Sara and Tom Moore >Rustic Charm Candle Company >Mill Creek, Washington >tnsmoore@wolfenet.com > > > > From phempel@blossomland.com Wed Dec 2 06:34:20 EST 1998 Article: 15120 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!rochester!news.eecis.udel.edu!netnews.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: "Philip M. Hempel" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Newbee Questions Continued Date: Sat, 28 Nov 1998 12:30:57 -0500 Organization: Blossomland Supply Lines: 19 Message-ID: <73pbut$otd$1@usenet43.supernews.com> Reply-To: "Philip M. Hempel" X-Trace: 912274205 OWV4KGLQPD 3FD1AC usenet43.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3155.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3155.0 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15120 Question Asked was: 1. I saw the online store site mentioned earlier. They have a starter kit. Does this kit contain everything that you really need to get started or is it a $125 that requires an additional $500 worth of stuff to really get started? This kit doesn't have any sort of suit: just a hood. Is a suit just a luxury item? Answer: Beekeeping like any activity can be as expensive as you can afford. A starter kit from Blossomland Supply (www.blossomland.com) costs $129 and comes with a Veil with a builtin hat. You could upgrade to a mesh hat and a folding veil or a full suit with zipper veil. The choice here is entirely up to your comfort level with the bees. I would recommend a full suit to all who may not be sure though. I personally use a full suit when I work the bees just to be sure that I am protected well if I need to be. If not then no harm done to me!! I like that idea. From hk1beeman@aol.com Wed Dec 2 06:34:20 EST 1998 Article: 15126 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!nntprelay.mathworks.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hk1beeman@aol.com (Hk1BeeMan) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Newbee Questions Continued Lines: 48 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 29 Nov 1998 14:01:12 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <73pbut$otd$1@usenet43.supernews.com> Message-ID: <19981129090112.10541.00001940@ng-cf1.aol.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:15126 >Question Asked was: >1. I saw the online store site mention