Article 22527 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.fast.net!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!POSTED.newshog.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: "Ernie Scofield" Subject: Re: newbie question Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Message-ID: <01bf51bc$140f1ee0$4ea24cc6@default> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Lines: 27 Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 05:18:12 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.76.162.78 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: newshog.newsread.com 946444692 198.76.162.78 (Wed, 29 Dec 1999 00:18:12 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 00:18:12 EST Organization: WHRO (whro.net) Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22527 Hello Jen, I believe that the longer you mess around with this, the more you will notice that many beekeepers don't do much "by the book". They tend to talk a lot about the book, but just keep your eyes open. The supers still being on could have several explanations. The guy just might be lazy, he might not have anywhere to store them to keep the dreaded wax moth out etc. I've left 'em on but usually move the inner cover down to the top of the brood nest. I try never to leave them on however, as they get full of condensation and tend to mold where I am. Welcome to the fold and best of luck this spring. -- Ernie Scofield Virginia Beach, Virginia USA Please remove nospam from my return address Jenn C wrote in article ... > My question would be to keepers in northern areas. All the books I have > read state that for winter you need to Article 22528 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.erols.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: Allen Dick Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Record keeping for beekeeping Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 12:14:42 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 46 Message-ID: <84cteh$ksr$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <385C8779.FEBAC046@uniserve.com> <38699B9E.BFD03CE1@uniserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.161.229.189 X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Dec 29 12:14:42 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98; QuickBooks 6.0 Canada) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x39.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 198.161.229.189 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDallendick Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22528 > > BEE-L archives & more: http://www.internode.net/HoneyBee/Bee-l.htm > > Search sci.agriculture.beekeeping at http://www.deja.com/ > > http://www.internode.net/HoneyBee to access both on the same page. > > > Thank you for the Tips, the Bee-L archive at the site mentioned > below was very helpful. It indicates that the Beekeep information > gathered comes in many forms and that lots of the information is > collected voluntarily. Still researching the information within this > site....; > There have been a lot of efforts put into the record keeping industry > ,according to the archives, but no real rewarding returns. This is > what it feels like after spending multiple seasons record keeping > and then storing the information into the breifcase until the > following season. That's the truth. We spend a great deal of time collecting and recording information. Much of it is never used. Sometimes that is because we changed our minds, sometimes because we ran out of time or interest or because anticipated problems never materialized Nonetheless, information is power and we would rather have too much than too little. The best methods we have found is the use of a spreadsheet, the use of diagrams with notes attached, and the placement of bricks on hives. We also write on the hives with a marker or staple notes onto the front using a common desk stapler. In the first case, we use an Excel spreadsheet as discussed for an overview, alternately, we sometimes draw a diagram (map) of our outfit on a large poster paper (There are 80 or so yards spread over 100 miles or so) and write the current info on clingers by each yard and/or we draw a diagram of each yard and make notes by each hive in the drawing. Which method works best depends on the time of year and the activities underway. No method works perfectly, but they all have their place. allen -- Allen Dick ----- See if your questions have been answered in over a decade of discussions BEE-L archives & more: http://www.internode.net/HoneyBee/Bee-l.htm Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 22529 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gctr.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.mad.ttd.net!news.mad.ttd.net!newsfeed.bcn.ttd.net!news.bcn.ttd.net!not-for-mail From: islapro Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Manuka seeds wanted Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 12:45:41 +0000 Organization: Telefonica Transmision de Datos Lines: 46 Message-ID: <386A0275.6CEA9166@islapro.com> References: <38688432.2F6DE282@islapro.com> Reply-To: islapro@islapro.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip249.bdf.es Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,es,en-US,tr Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22529 Thank you for the advise. I am a bit "aficionado" to the botany, currently I am studying the "meliferous" qualities of the: Eucalyptus bicolor (Mirtaceae) Evodia danielli (Rutaceae) Phacelia tanacetifolia (Hydrophyllaceae) As per this Eucalyptus (tree) it is suppose to bloom in July, August & September, and it is extremely meliferous. This three was chosen from a meliferous chart of over 50 varieties of Eucalyptus by the F.A.O (United Nations) 1.982. We will keep no more than 10 plants. Evodia, we purchased some seeds from a beekeeping assoc. in Penna. last year, and again it suppose to bloom in June, July and August. I noticed over and over the qualities of the species, so now I have about 40 growing and hope to be able to document it over our climate. And as per the Phacelia, it is a bit similar to the "cleaver", it is a cultivar. As per my studies is the top meliferous of an annual plant. The first year I will planting just 1/2 acre. My objective is to document and obtain 200 Lb.. per hive year, over a period five years. I am doing this project like a final dissertation, everything documented, photographed, logged... and shared with the other beekeepers here in Mallorca, Spain, Europe. Charlie Kroeger wrote: > You should be very careful and talk to someone in the proper field of > discipline in the area you are planning to introduce these new plants. > Just bringing in new plant species in your area because they do > something desirable in a country thousands of miles away, can be very > irresponsible; the planet is groaning under problems like that; flora > and fauna being transported around and outside their natural place of > development into other areas can devastate more delicate species in > situ. > > You really should consider the new and growing awareness regarding this > and think about the implications of a "planet of weeds." > > C.K. Article 22530 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!nyc-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!paloalto-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.stanford.edu!remarQ70!rQdQ!supernews.com!remarQ.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: (Patrick M. Hennessey) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: newbie question Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 12:53:05 GMT Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 11 Message-ID: <386a0344.136313965@news.ncweb.com> References: X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.451 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22530 On Tue, 28 Dec 1999 15:55:36 -0500, "Jenn C" wrote: . With one exception all the hives we have seen have as >many as 5 supers stacked. could it be that these beekeepers are using 5 medium sized supers in stead of the 2 full-sized hive bodies. One of the beekeepers in my area does this so he only has to buy one size box and one size frames. Pat Article 22531 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!uwm.edu!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gctr.net!yellow.newsread.com!netaxs.com!newsread.com!POSTED.monger.newsread.com!not-for-mail From: "Ernie Scofield" Subject: Could this possibly be! Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Message-ID: <01bf543e$03aae460$23a24cc6@default> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Lines: 14 Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 09:53:22 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.76.162.35 X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role , We Care X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 946720402 198.76.162.35 (Sat, 01 Jan 2000 04:53:22 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 04:53:22 EST Organization: WHRO (whro.net) Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22531 The first post of the new millenium? All you snow puppies up there, don't get upset but here the temp is supposed to be 60 today and the beekeeping year will start for me as I begin with a dose of Apistan and grease. Thanks to all for the company over the last year and I'll be looking forward to many more with "Y'all". ( That last was for Kevin) -- Ernie Scofield Virginia Beach, Virginia USA Please remove nospam from my return address Article 22532 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!faatcrl.faa.gov!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!cyclone-l3!cyclone-l3.usenetserver.com!news4.usenetserver.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hamilton@pbssite.com (Dave Hamilton) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Anyone getting out of the Queen rearing business Message-ID: <386e2a20.242761828@news.usenetserver.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 4 X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Complaints-To: admin@usenetserver.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 11:21:34 EST Organization: UseNet Server, Inc. http://www.usenetserver.com - Home of the fastest NNTP servers on the Net. Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 16:24:52 GMT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22532 I though I would start raising queens this year .. anyone have unused equipment they want to part with? Dave Article 22533 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!remarQ70!remarQ.com!supernews.com!remarQ69!WReNclone!WReNphoon4.POSTED!WReN!not-for-mail From: dave Subject: Re: How To Become a Successful Beekeeper Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.religion.kibology Message-ID: <098c81cc.9ab0dc45@usw-ex0102-016.remarq.com> Lines: 8 Bytes: 252 X-Originating-Host: 12.10.126.6 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here Followup-To: alt.religion.kibology References: <82uuac$h21$1@nnrp1.deja.com> X-Wren-Trace: eHhddXRtKmArPG1meCtZcmtveDNybj8uLCY5KiEiMGohMG4= Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 12:20:00 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 10.0.2.16 X-Complaints-To: wrenabuse@remarq.com X-Trace: WReNphoon4 946758453 10.0.2.16 (Sat, 01 Jan 2000 12:27:33 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 12:27:33 PST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22533 alt.religion.kibology:228739 I love it.... I have completed you're course. Please send the diploma as soon as possible. Dave * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! Article 22534 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.atl!news2.mco.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <386E675D.E3B1DF5D@bellsouth.net> From: "bill_daniels@bellsouth.net" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: First winter - overwintering question (TN/USA) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 31 Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 14:45:17 -0600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.214.198.95 X-Trace: news2.mco 946759524 209.214.198.95 (Sat, 01 Jan 2000 15:45:24 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 15:45:24 EST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22534 We have had a very mild fall and winter here in the Memphis, Tennessee, USA area. Today with the temperature almost 70 deg. F I went out to check the stores in my 2 hives of Italian bees. Each hive is made of 2 deep bodies which were very heavy and almost totally filled with honey at the end of my first season. Anyway, while checking today both hives still felt very heavy. My question is about one of the hives. I pulled the outer cover off of the hive to look down into the hole in the inner cover. The bees seemed to be right there at the top of the 2nd story looking up at me as I took off the outer cover. I was expecting to see very few or none of the girls. Does this mean that the bees have already eaten their way to the top? The hive was still quite heavy. I would estimate that it weighed more than 50 pounds. Do I need to begin feeding? I had planned to begin feeding 1-to-1 sugar syrup at the middle of February for buildup stimulation in anticipation of our short spring flow. The USDA last frost date is April 15 around here and I want the hives to be ready for it by April 1. Our state extension bulletin doesn't even mention hive body reversal until March. But I'm still concerned about the girls I saw at the top today. Should I worry? Thanks, Bill Daniels Collierville, TN USA Article 22535 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!wn3feed!worldnet.att.net!wnmaster1!not-for-mail From: "George Styer" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: OT - consealing e-mail id Date: Wed, 29 Dec 1999 14:09:29 -0800 Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 16 Message-ID: <84e1e5$s3n$1@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.72.50.34 X-Trace: bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net 946505989 28791 12.72.50.34 (29 Dec 1999 22:19:49 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 29 Dec 1999 22:19:49 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22535 Sorry for the off topic. I am setting up Netscape (Communicator 4.08) for my sister in law (she won't support Bill Gates). All done except I can't see where you can have a phoney e-mail id for news. Unlike MS Outlook, it looks to me like the NS Message Center uses the same settings for mail and news. Am I missing something? -- Geo Sacramento, in California's great Central Valley "Honey is sweet but the bee stings" gstyLer@worldnet.att.net To respond via email, get the "L" out of there Article 22536 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!skynet.be!195.224.165.20.MISMATCH!remarQ-uK!rQdQ!supernews.com!remarQ.com!remarQ69!WReNclone!WReNphoon2.POSTED!WReN!not-for-mail From: dave Subject: paint the inside ??? Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Message-ID: <09920fb9.af1f01d8@usw-ex0102-016.remarq.com> Lines: 8 Bytes: 217 X-Originating-Host: 12.10.126.6 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here X-Wren-Trace: eOXA6Onwt/22ofD75bbE7/by5a7v86Kzsbukt7y/rfe8rfM= Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 13:38:19 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 10.0.2.16 X-Complaints-To: wrenabuse@remarq.com X-Trace: WReNphoon2 946762923 10.0.2.16 (Sat, 01 Jan 2000 13:42:03 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 13:42:03 PST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22536 Should you paint the inside of hives or supers ? Thanks Dave * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! Article 22537 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.comnospam (Dave Green) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: paint the inside ??? Lines: 29 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 02 Jan 2000 00:33:55 GMT References: <09920fb9.af1f01d8@usw-ex0102-016.remarq.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000101193355.13896.00000404@ng-co1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22537 From: dave davesNOdaSPAM@cadp.org.invalid >Should you paint the inside of hives or supers ? Yes. Absolutely. There is an old wive's tale that bees do not like painted surfaces therefore hives should not be painted on the inside. This is nonsense, as any longtime beekeeper who has painted the insides can tell you. The bees may or may not add their own varnish, according to their preference. But painting hives on both sides equalizes the transfer of water vapor, and prevents much of the warping that occurs with woodneware. Paint does not stop water movement, and will NOT prevent rot any more than unpainted wood. But I have never seen any warping with dipped supers, and I've seen warps so bad that it pulled nails on woodenware only painted on one side. To prevent rot, make sure that there is no longstanding moisture on the wood, whether painted or not. Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA The Pollination Scene: http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Jan's Sweetness and Light Shop (Varietal Honeys and Beeswax Candles) http://users.aol.com/SweetnessL/sweetlit.htm Article 22538 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!newscon01.news.prodigy.com!news-k12.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!not-for-mail From: "Stan Wyler" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Feeding Honey Date: Sat, 1 Jan 2000 18:07:00 -0500 Organization: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com Lines: 7 Message-ID: <84m1ae$90d2$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: nycmbb02-43.splitrock.net X-Trace: newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com 946768014 688673 209.254.11.43 (1 Jan 2000 23:06:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Jan 2000 23:06:54 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22538 Hello all - happy new year! I have a some goldenrod honey that I would like to feed back to my hives due to its undesireable qualities(smells and has crystalized). Should it be diluted with water in the same proportions as sugar? Thanks - Stan Article 22543 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!howland.erols.net!news-out-b.news.pipex.net.MISMATCH!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!uunet!ams.uu.net!ffx.uu.net!portc05.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.comnospam (Dave Green) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: new beekeepers Lines: 41 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder07.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 29 Dec 1999 17:29:12 GMT References: <0924c354.526c7ce0@usw-ex0109-070.remarq.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <19991229122912.01153.00000607@ng-fs1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22543 >We are new beekeepers ( 1 week old) >We have two children and would like to know what medicine >to keep on hand. Our children have never been stung so we >do not know what reactions they will have. We would rather >be safe than sorry. As others have mentioned Benedryl is handy to reduce swelling. Give child sized doses thought. Epipens have been mentioned, but true allergic reactions are much rarer than the common mythology. One of my boys had almost no reaction, the other swelled quite a bit at first, but then got over it. But swelling is quite normal, particularly if stung on the face. Try to keep them in a veil, and teach them NEVER to pull it off, if a bee gets inside, as my eldest son once did... > Also, are there any dangers of feeding >sugar water to our bees in the winter. We were given 2 old >hives that have hardly any stores. Thanks Connie & Mike You don't say where you are and that makes a BIG difference in management, so please state location. You need to see if you have a decent cluster, before trying to feed. If the cluster has already dwindled, they aren't worth it. Fresh bees can easily be restocked in the spring and will outproduce ones that have been nursed thru winter and barely survived. If the cluster is still the size of a basketball, by all means get sugar to them right away. Thin syrup is not a good idea in the northern USA, as they are already having trouble removing the moisture from condensation. Make a 1 1/2 to two inch feeder rim, remove cover, place rim on top of the hive, lay a newspaper in it and fill with dry sugar. Then the moisture from their respiration will soak the paper and make it mighty tasty to them. They will lap us the sweetness, and after awhile chew thru the paper. The sugar, now hardened, will provide a good feed for them for several weeks. When it is mostly consumed, renew the paper and sugar. You need a good "crash" course in beekeeping. Try this one: http://www.ces.uga.edu/pubcd/b1045-w.html Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA The Pollination Scene: http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Jan's Sweetness and Light Shop (Varietal Honeys and Beeswax Candles) http://users.aol.com/SweetnessL/sweetlit.htm Article 22544 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!uwm.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!nntpserver.swip.net!not-for-mail From: "STIG HANSSON" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Inbreeding of queens Lines: 7 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.151.237.115 X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@swip.net X-Trace: nntpserver.swip.net 946789525 212.151.237.115 (Sun, 02 Jan 2000 06:05:25 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 06:05:25 MET DST Organization: A Customer of Tele2 X-Sender: s-1020900@d212-151-237-115.swipnet.se Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 06:06:02 +0100 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22544 Hi everybody and a Happy New Year from me too! I've read somewhere, that inbreeding can cause dronelaying queens. Can someone explain to me what happens genetically? Doris Article 22545 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gctr.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: Allen Dick Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: paint the inside ??? Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 05:35:19 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 33 Message-ID: <84mn7c$3sn$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <09920fb9.af1f01d8@usw-ex0102-016.remarq.com> <20000101193355.13896.00000404@ng-co1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.161.229.204 X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun Jan 02 05:35:19 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98; QuickBooks 6.0 Canada) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x28.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 198.161.229.204 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDallendick Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22545 > There is an old wive's tale that bees do not like painted > surfaces therefore hives should not be painted on the inside. > > This is nonsense, as any longtime beekeeper who has painted > the insides can tell you. The bees may or may not add their > own varnish, according to their preference.... But I > have never seen any warping with dipped supers, and I've > seen warps so bad that it pulled nails on woodenware only > painted on one side. Most beekeepers do not paint their hive bodies inside. Although they often paint the floors inside surface, they do not normally paint the lids or inner covers inside either. Although I have had hive bodies and supers that are painted inside and they were very nice that way, we do not make it a practice to paint new ones we build. It is a lot of extra work, unless you dip the supers. I believe that if you plan to dip, a special paint is available that does not look too bad. The biggest concern, if you decide to paint, is to use a paint that is non-toxic, and to dry and air it well before installing bees. allen ---- See if your questions have been answered in over a decade of discussions BEE-L archives & more: http://www.internode.net/HoneyBee/Bee-l.htm Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 22546 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!europa.netcrusader.net!192.148.253.68!netnews.com!newspeer1.nac.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail From: honeybs@radix.net (honeybs) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Inbreeding of queens Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 12:56:57 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 25 Message-ID: <84ngtg$hso$2@news1.Radix.Net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: p9.a1.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22546 "STIG HANSSON" wrote: >Hi everybody and a Happy New Year from me too! >I've read somewhere, that inbreeding can cause dronelaying queens. Can >someone explain to me what happens genetically? >Doris Inbreeding cause the mathing of the sex alleles. When these match the eggs do not hatch. Thus, rather than being a drone layer (which only have one set of chromosomes) only the drones hatch. The worker eggs are removed since they don't hatch and it appears that she is a drone layer. Greg the beekeep // Bee Just & Just Bee! =8{ })))- Chicamuxen, Maryland, USA \\ www.radix.net\~honeybs Article 22547 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!uwm.edu!cs.utexas.edu!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gctr.net!newspeer1.nac.net!netnews.com!news.voicenet.com!newsxfer.visi.net!firenze.visi.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <386F58FC.8BB09249@nospam.visi.net> From: Thom Bradley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: First winter - overwintering question (TN/USA) References: <386E675D.E3B1DF5D@bellsouth.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 40 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 13:57:30 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp30.ts1-1.norfolk.visi.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 08:57:30 EST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22547 "bill_daniels@bellsouth.net" wrote: > > We have had a very mild fall and winter here in the Memphis, Tennessee, > USA area. Today with the temperature almost 70 deg. F > > Anyway, while checking today both hives still felt very heavy. > I pulled the outer cover off of the > hive to look down into the hole in the inner cover. The bees seemed to > be right there at the top of the 2nd story looking up at me as I took > off the outer cover. I was expecting to see very few or none of the > girls. > > Does this mean that the bees have already eaten their way to the top? > The hive was still quite heavy. > > > > Bill Daniels > Collierville, TN USA Bill, We are getting the same warm temps now too. Don't be too concerned about the girls at the top. The bees will not be clustered at 70 deg. that tight where they will not be all over the hive bodies. The true test is the weight. You could open them up at 70 deg. and look at the frames as well. If you are worried, add a bag of sugar on top of the inner cover. If they don't need it they won't take. It sounds as if you go through the periodic warming periods the same as we do here. There is plenty of opportunity for them to break cluster and get it. I have a 5 frame nuc that is not sharing heat. They have as much food now as at the end of the aster flow. I haven't fed them. Bringing pollen and nectar in and handled well with no smoke. I'm using them as an indicator as my health is insufficient to lift anything since surgery in Oct. Thom Bradley Chesapeake, VA Article 22548 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!howland.erols.net!netnews.com!newspeer1.nac.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail From: honeybs@radix.net (honeybs) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Could this possibly be! Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 12:51:39 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 29 Message-ID: <84ngjh$hso$1@news1.Radix.Net> References: <01bf543e$03aae460$23a24cc6@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: p9.a1.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22548 "Ernie Scofield" wrote: >The first post of the new millenium? >All you snow puppies up there, don't get upset but here the temp is >supposed to be 60 today and the beekeeping year will start for me as I >begin with a dose of Apistan and grease. >Thanks to all for the company over the last year and I'll be looking >forward to many more with "Y'all". ( That last was for Kevin) >-- >Ernie Scofield >Virginia Beach, Virginia USA It's about the same here in Southern Maryland. Of course we're buffered by the same bay. Greg the beekeep // Bee Just & Just Bee! =8{ })))- Chicamuxen, Maryland, USA \\ www.radix.net\~honeybs Article 22549 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!uwm.edu!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gctr.net!europa.netcrusader.net!205.231.236.10!newspeer.monmouth.com!uunet!ffx.uu.net!news.greenhills.net!not-for-mail From: "Dennis Crutchfield" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: double queen setup Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 09:11:44 -0600 Organization: Green Hills/Chariton Valley News Server Lines: 5 Message-ID: <84npv8$q8s$1@einstein.greenhills.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: h4-9.cvalley.net X-Trace: einstein.greenhills.net 946826024 26908 208.220.141.9 (2 Jan 2000 15:13:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.greenhills.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Jan 2000 15:13:44 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22549 Can anyone tell me how to arrange a double queen hive. I guess i am wanting to know how to set it up preacher Article 22550 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.tli.de!news-MUC.ecrc.net!remarQ-uK!rQdQ!supernews.com!remarQ.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "Teri Bachus" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: bee-tv/web site Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 11:01:51 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 6 Message-ID: X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22550 nova on pbs airs "tales from the hive" on tuesday jan.4,y2k...check out their web site: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/bees/ Article 22551 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.mindspring.net.MISMATCH!news.mindspring.net!firehose.mindspring.com!not-for-mail From: "JOHN KASSINGER" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: purifying small amount of beeswax Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 12:46:09 -0500 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 5 Message-ID: <84o2fv$ge2$1@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.8a.aa.53 X-Server-Date: 2 Jan 2000 17:39:11 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22551 Anybody have a system of purifying a small amount of cappings? My family want's to make candles. Jack Article 22553 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!faatcrl.faa.gov!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.algonet.se!algonet!newsfeed1.swip.net!swipnet!nntpserver.swip.net!not-for-mail From: "STIG HANSSON" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <84ngtg$hso$2@news1.Radix.Net> Subject: SV: Inbreeding of queens Lines: 12 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.151.166.163 X-Complaints-To: news-abuse@swip.net X-Trace: nntpserver.swip.net 946845659 212.151.166.163 (Sun, 02 Jan 2000 21:40:59 MET DST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 21:40:59 MET DST Organization: A Customer of Tele2 X-Sender: s-1020900@d212-151-166-163.swipnet.se Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 21:41:38 +0100 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22553 Thanks for info on queens, Greg! About the address to bee venom therapy you gave me: I tried to get into that http://www.beesting.com , but there's nothing. I also asked Verio support and they said they "appreciated my patience". Unfortunately I'm not THAT patient (that was 3-4 weeks ago!) Do you know anything else I could have a look at??? Doris Article 22554 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!faatcrl.faa.gov!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-feed.fnsi.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer1.nac.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail From: honeybs@radix.net (honeybs) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: purifying small amount of beeswax Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 22:49:42 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 31 Message-ID: <84ojm1$58m$1@news1.Radix.Net> References: <84o2fv$ge2$1@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p44.a4.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22554 "JOHN KASSINGER" wrote: >Anybody have a system of purifying a small amount of cappings? My family >want's to make candles. >Jack Put them in a small cylindrical pot with some water. Heat it in a water bath in an old crock pot. Let it stay hot for 24 hrs. This allow the particulate to sink to the bottom of the wax. Not boiling just hot. Then turn off the crock pot and let it cool for another day. You should be able to slam the pot upside down and dislodge the wax. Scrape off the bottom until you have pure wax. A good candle wax is 51% beeswax, 48+-% parafin, and 1-2% steric acid. They burn very bright and do not drip too bad. Have fun and do none of this in the wife's kitchen! Greg the beekeep // Bee Just & Just Bee! =8{ })))- Chicamuxen, Maryland, USA \\ www.radix.net\~honeybs Article 22555 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!interpath.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!gxn.net!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.frontiernet.net!nntp.gctr.net!news.frontiernet.net!not-for-mail From: "busybee" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: double queen setup Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:31:49 -0600 Organization: Frontier GlobalCenter Inc. Lines: 14 Message-ID: <84on4i$lrm$1@node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net> References: <84npv8$q8s$1@einstein.greenhills.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-130-165-33.nas1.lec.gblx.net X-Trace: node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net 946855890 22390 209.130.165.33 (2 Jan 2000 23:31:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@frontiernet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Jan 2000 23:31:30 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22555 Set it up the same way you do a split. Then separate the hives with a two-queen divider (can't think of the name of it at the moment). --Busybee Dennis Crutchfield wrote in message <84npv8$q8s$1@einstein.greenhills.net>... >Can anyone tell me how to arrange a double queen hive. I guess i am wanting >to know how to set it up >preacher > > Article 22556 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.comnospam (Dave Green) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: purifying small amount of beeswax Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 02 Jan 2000 23:44:39 GMT References: <84o2fv$ge2$1@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000102184439.22021.00000687@ng-cq1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22556 From: "JOHN KASSINGER" Jack18@popd.ix.netcom.com@ix.netcom.com >Anybody have a system of purifying a small amount of cappings? My family >want's to make candles. Wash cappings of all honey in a collander or similar device. Using a double boiler (preferably a disposable one, because cleaning it will be next to impossible), gently heat (with careful attention to prevent boilover and fire), together with water and a little vinegar (to prevent the calcium in most tap water from ruining the wax), until the wax is melted and is floating on top of the water. Use corning glass or stainless steel to prevent darkening the wax. Most metals will chemically combine with the wax; iron is the worst. Carefully pour thru a disposable fabric filter (we use organdy) to filter out large contaminants, into a tapered mold (we use teflon coated baking pans). If the mold is not tapered, the wax may be very difficult to remove. As you pour off the wax from the top of the water, also pour a little of the water, which will help in getting the mold to release. Let the block harden and remove from the pan. Cut or scrape off the thin layer of sediment at the line between water and wax, which becomes entrapped in the wax. You now have a fairly clean block. You may have some traces of contaminants that will float on the top of the wax, and they may need scraping/trimming also. Use extreme care; wax is very flamable. Keep a good fire extinguisher handy, and never go off to answer the phone, while you are heating wax. (I have had a wax fire, and know whereof I speak.) Spills are difficult to clean, and spills in the kitchen can precipitate divorces... Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA The Pollination Scene: http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Jan's Sweetness and Light Shop (Varietal Honeys and Beeswax Candles) http://users.aol.com/SweetnessL/sweetlit.htm Article 22557 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.comnospam (Dave Green) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: help identifying a bee Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder07.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 02 Jan 2000 23:54:18 GMT References: <386F128E.16AEED3B@keelynet.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000102185418.22021.00000691@ng-cq1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22557 >which I think is a >bumblebee, I would certainly appreciate if someone here can >identify it. I would tend to agree with you, although the photo is not real clear. There are some syriphid flies that imitate bumblebees. They generally hover, rather than land in the flower, though. It appears that you have baited the bumbler with a drop of honey. It does, work, though it is a good way to spread bee diseases. This list mostly deals with honeybees (which this definitely is not); you might want to try a more appropriate forum. You could try the bombus (bumblebee) list. Access to that can be found thru the Alternative Pollinators section at the page below. Dave Green The Pollination Home Page http://pollinator.com Article 22558 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!uwm.edu!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gctr.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: beecrofter@aol.comBee (BeeCrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: purifying small amount of beeswax Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 02 Jan 2000 23:54:54 GMT References: <84o2fv$ge2$1@nntp1.atl.mindspring.net> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000102185454.22408.00000672@ng-fu1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22558 Melt over water with some white vinegar added. Pour through a piece of old t shirt or sweat shirt material fuzzy side up. Tom There is an extra Bee in the Email address after the AOL.com Article 22559 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!faatcrl.faa.gov!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.axxsys.net!remarQ-easT!remarQ.com!supernews.com!portc05.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.comnospam (Dave Green) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Anyone getting out of the Queen rearing business Lines: 12 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder07.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 03 Jan 2000 00:11:36 GMT References: <386e2a20.242761828@news.usenetserver.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000102191136.22021.00000698@ng-cq1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22559 >I though I would start raising queens this year .. anyone have unused >equipment they want to part with? I recall seeing mating boxes on Morris Weaver's list, the last time I looked at it. To get his list, call 409-825-7714 Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA The Pollination Scene: http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Jan's Sweetness and Light Shop (Varietal Honeys and Beeswax Candles) http://users.aol.com/SweetnessL/sweetlit.htm Article 22560 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer1.nac.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail From: honeybs@radix.net (honeybs) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: SV: Inbreeding of queens Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 22:55:43 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 29 Message-ID: <84ok1b$58m$2@news1.Radix.Net> References: <84ngtg$hso$2@news1.Radix.Net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p44.a4.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22560 "STIG HANSSON" wrote: >Thanks for info on queens, Greg! >About the address to bee venom therapy you gave me: I tried to get into that >http://www.beesting.com , but there's nothing. I also asked Verio support >and they said they "appreciated my patience". Unfortunately I'm not THAT >patient (that was 3-4 weeks ago!) Do you know anything else I could have a >look at??? >Doris Yes they have changed their address. Just go to my home page and click on related sites. They have a link there that works. My daughter maintains my webpage listed in my signature. I didn't realize they had a new URL.. Greg the beekeep // Bee Just & Just Bee! =8{ })))- Chicamuxen, Maryland, USA \\ www.radix.net\~honeybs Article 22561 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!malgudi.oar.net!plonk.apk.net!news.apk.net!news.nitco.com!not-for-mail From: Chad Howell Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: paint the inside ??? Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 19:51:35 -0600 Organization: NetNITCO Internet Services Lines: 40 Message-ID: <387000A7.C59A1F39@netnitco.net> References: <09920fb9.af1f01d8@usw-ex0102-016.remarq.com> <20000101193355.13896.00000404@ng-co1.aol.com> <84mn7c$3sn$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: valpo-quad-2-154.netnitco.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: hyperion.nitco.com 946864847 10959 216.176.149.154 (3 Jan 2000 02:00:47 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsadmin@netnitco.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Jan 2000 02:00:47 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22561 Can you coat the entire super with Cuprinol (sic) copper naphthate. I bought some a Menards today. I thought that i saw a beekeeper coat all his woodenware with it. Just wondering because I'm going to start to cut out my supers tomarrow night. I didn't last year. Allen Dick wrote: > > There is an old wive's tale that bees do not like painted > > surfaces therefore hives should not be painted on the inside. > > > > This is nonsense, as any longtime beekeeper who has painted > > the insides can tell you. The bees may or may not add their > > own varnish, according to their preference.... But I > > have never seen any warping with dipped supers, and I've > > seen warps so bad that it pulled nails on woodenware only > > painted on one side. > > Most beekeepers do not paint their hive bodies inside. Although they > often paint the floors inside surface, they do not normally paint the > lids or inner covers inside either. Although I have had hive bodies > and supers that are painted inside and they were very nice that way, we > do not make it a practice to paint new ones we build. It is a lot of > extra work, unless you dip the supers. > > I believe that if you plan to dip, a special paint is available that > does not look too bad. > > The biggest concern, if you decide to paint, is to use a paint that is > non-toxic, and to dry and air it well before installing bees. > > allen > > ---- > See if your questions have been answered in over a decade of discussions > BEE-L archives & more: http://www.internode.net/HoneyBee/Bee-l.htm > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. Article 22562 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!remarQ70!remarQ.com!supernews.com!remarQ69!WReNclone!WReNphoon2.POSTED!WReN!not-for-mail From: dave Subject: Re: paint the inside ??? Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Message-ID: <0146ce5a.9b3b2e80@usw-ex0101-002.remarq.com> Lines: 15 Bytes: 627 X-Originating-Host: 209.74.174.99 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here References: <09920fb9.af1f01d8@usw-ex0102-016.remarq.com> <20000101193355.13896.00000404@ng-co1.aol.com> <84mn7c$3sn$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <387000A7.C59A1F39@netnitco.net> X-Wren-Trace: eGJHb253MHoxJnd8YjFDaHF1YilodCU0NT40LzwiNXM6MGw6NQ== Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 19:33:53 -0800 NNTP-Posting-Host: 10.0.2.2 X-Complaints-To: wrenabuse@remarq.com X-Trace: WReNphoon2 946870656 10.0.2.2 (Sun, 02 Jan 2000 19:37:36 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 19:37:36 PST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22562 It is recommended that you coat your woodenware with copper napthanate - then let it dry - and then paint the super. I just painted quite a bit of wood with cooper napthanate. I would recomend painting it after cutting it out but before assembling the supers or hives. It takes a while to dry if it is cool outside. Thanks for the info about painting the inside of the hives. I think I'll go ahead and paint the inside of mine with some outdoor latex paint. Dave * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! Article 22563 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!faatcrl.faa.gov!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-feed.fnsi.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jmitc1014@aol.com (JMitc1014) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: First winter - overwintering question (TN/USA) Lines: 6 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 03 Jan 2000 04:37:46 GMT References: <386F58FC.8BB09249@nospam.visi.net> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000102233746.05334.00001203@ng-ce1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22563 I understand if the bees are mobile at 70 degrees. But what if you find them clustered under the inner cover at 40 degrees (in eastern Mass.). I had left a whole extra deep super on top of a cordovan colony (from a feral swarm), so you can imagine my surprise when opening my 3-deep supers hive on Jan. 1 and finding the basket-ball size cluster just under the inner cover. I robbed some other hives that had extra honey to fill a 4th super that I added on top. Article 22564 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!newsxfer.visi.net!firenze.visi.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3870A008.E637E0D2@visi.net> From: Thom Bradley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: First winter - overwintering question (TN/USA) References: <386F58FC.8BB09249@nospam.visi.net> <20000102233746.05334.00001203@ng-ce1.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 45 Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 13:12:57 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp11.ts1-1.norfolk.visi.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Jan 2000 08:12:57 EST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22564 Yeah I would be surprised at that too, especially if the top 2 were full of food. How heavy was the hive? Sometimes they will eat their way up the middle or if the cluster is large enough where the queen will lay a small strip up the center of the box. If the temperature reaches 40 deg F periodically it should allow them to maneuver the cluster enough to move towards honey stored in the outside frames. If the colony was light they must be eating. Empty a 5 lb bag of sugar on top of the inner cover. An easy way to ensure plenty of food if you have a large colony. I always keep a bucket of sugar in my truck. Cheap easy and effective. Ernie Schofield in VA Beach taught me that trick. The biggest thing is to remember the first year all beekeepers are a ball of worry. Since it is the first winter, it is impossible to know what is normal. Winters seem harsh and it is tough to grasp that they can survive in unheated conditions. If you treated with apistan and are relatively mite free, have plenty of food, there is enough ventilation at the top for water vapor to release, they will do fine. Do what you must to relieve your worries without disturbing them too much. We've all been there. Thom Bradley Chesapeake, VA JMitc1014 wrote: > > I understand if the bees are mobile at 70 degrees. But what if you find them > clustered under the inner cover at 40 degrees (in eastern Mass.). I had left a > whole extra deep super on top of a cordovan colony (from a feral swarm), so you > can imagine my surprise when opening my 3-deep supers hive on Jan. 1 and > finding the basket-ball size cluster just under the inner cover. I robbed some > other hives that had extra honey to fill a 4th super that I added on top. Article 22565 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!faatcrl.faa.gov!hammer.uoregon.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.erols.net!europa.netcrusader.net!194.159.255.21!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!kilty.demon.co.uk!james From: James Kilty Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Manuka seeds wanted Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 01:02:11 +0000 Message-ID: <4PErrSATOqb4Ewn+@kilty.demon.co.uk> References: <38688432.2F6DE282@islapro.com> <386D08D0.504EED06@islapro.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kilty.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: kilty.demon.co.uk:193.237.253.225 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 946910423 nnrp-13:7279 NO-IDENT kilty.demon.co.uk:193.237.253.225 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Lines: 56 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22565 In article <386D08D0.504EED06@islapro.com>, islapro writes >the bees produce honey in the winter months, and in they have three regular >harvest per year: >rosmarinus from November until April. >carub trees from October to December >almond in January >prunes in February >citrus (orange) March and April >fig tree (the fruits= figs) September > >the problem is July, August and September > >only the wild asparagus flower and produce in August and September, >depending if we get summer rains, >so I am trying to feel the gap. > >As per the botanical implication, my main interest is in botany and second >beekeeping. >I produced the flowering charts for the several areas which serve as a guide >to the beekeepers. I think we all have a problem with our bees if we want them to produce honey all the year round. In an ideal world, at least in my ideal world, our bees are adapted to the area we live in. Their egg laying, foraging and storing habits are instincts passed on genetically, therefore by selection over, in most cases, millennia. So they adapt to a particular environment. I don't know if honeybees are native to your islands. If so, the best advice I can give is to select and rear from your best stock; try to persuade other beekeepers to do the same if they don't already and give them more of the *indigenous* bee plants. If you add foreign forage plants then you are asking the bees to change their behaviour to give you a better harvest. You are also asking the environment to adapt to your needs too at some cost. The bees will certainly go for the new unexpected forage but there will be an unpredictable price to pay. I suggest planting the best Mediterranean species you can think of, which will give nectar flows over the September to April period and enhance your existing flows. Remember too, that planting new species will take up space that could be occupied by indigenous plants. If bees are not indigenous, then the race and strain you rear need to be acquired from somewhere with a similar climate. Presumably Spanish or Italian bees would be right but I imagine it would be quite easy to match your climate very well even though it is an island. I would be interested to hear how others think about the inter-related problems of bee race, forage, environment and conservation, bearing in mind that many of the world's honey producing countries do not have indigenous honeybees at all and must therefore select one or other of the many non-native races for their purposes. I wonder how many problems have been created by selecting "the wrong race" or strain and indeed by introducing additional competition for resources from the honey bee. -- James Kilty Article 22566 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.algonet.se!algonet!newsfeed.icl.net!ayres.ftech.net!news.ftech.net!newshub.bart.net!bullseye.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!denrosa.demon.co.uk!murray From: Murray McGregor Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Manuka seeds wanted Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 09:42:48 +0000 Organization: Denrosa Ltd Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <38688432.2F6DE282@islapro.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: denrosa.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: denrosa.demon.co.uk:194.222.100.90 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 946633846 nnrp-09:11679 NO-IDENT denrosa.demon.co.uk:194.222.100.90 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 3.04 Lines: 70 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22566 In article <38688432.2F6DE282@islapro.com>, islapro writes >In New Zealand they cultivated Manuka, a "brush" very meliferous, does >someone know where I can get (purchase) seeds to experiment in the >Mediterranean (Europe). > >What's the scientific name of the Manuka, and where can I find more >information about this plant, monographics, basic conditons for the >soil... > >------------- >Familia. >Geneus >Species and var > > Manuka is Leptospermum scoparium. Described variously as a bush, shrub or more often, a shrubby tree. New Zealanders will give you better information on this one, but we do sell the honey (imported from NZ) here in the UK. Unless you are prepared to gear your extracting plant to deal with a gel honey like Calluna, and one with a highly distinctive and dominant taste, it is probably better to avoid this one. Phacelia tancetifolia mentioned in your other post is a cracker of a honey plant. We help a few local farmers fund the seed (its a little more expensive for them to use it than other cover crops) and in the right conditions get an excellent crop of mild white honey off it. We have noted a tendency for it to perform poorly in drought conditions though, so in the Mediterranean climate you are talking about you may need to find a cultivar of it adapted to your conditions. It seems to be mainly a cover crop on set aside land in northern Europe, particularly Germany and the Baltic lands. From another perspective on the warning given by Charlie Kroeger, it is quite possible that you will find that outside their natural range these plants will be poor nectar yielders. Sometimes they do work well, but more often they do not. An example of this is Canadian and New Zealand strains of Trifloium repens (white clover). These are great yielders in their own countries, and for at least the last 40 years have been the basis of the 'undersow' in pasture around here (Scotland). They (especially the NZ) are much more vigourous than the short and small local strain and thus contribute more to the pasture. However, in this country they yield close to ZERO nectar, even on fields which are white enough with flower to almost look as if there had been a snow fall. Set aside fields, where the NATIVE strain is allowed to come through on its own, are a magnet to the bees in season and much nectar is available. Unfortunately such fields are rare and usually small, and the number of colonies they can sustain is few. Forty years ago clover was one of the main nectar sources in our area and large yields were possible, but today as a honey crop it is absent, despite good acreages of flower. Also you will need to see these things over a long period to establish their value in your area. Compared to us you have a consistent climate but will still have periods of drought and wetter spells. Some of the plants you mention, such as manuka, will take several years to come to proper maturity, so your study is going to take many years. It might be better to migrate your bees to the best of your local forage, than to try to migrate in plants from alien environments. Good luck anyway Murray -- Murray McGregor Article 22567 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <386E095B.1333661B@together.net> Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2000 09:04:11 -0500 From: Michael Palmer Reply-To: mpalmer@together.net Organization: French Hill Apiaries X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: new beekeepers References: <0924c354.526c7ce0@usw-ex0109-070.remarq.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-80-tnt-btvt-01.ramp.together.net X-Trace: 31 Dec 1999 14:40:40 -0500, dial-80-tnt-btvt-01.ramp.together.net Lines: 27 Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!hammer.uoregon.edu!csulb.edu!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news-out.uswest.net!news.together.net!dial-80-tnt-btvt-01.ramp.together.net Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22567 connie & mike wrote: > We are new beekeepers ( 1 week old) > We have two children and would like to know what medicine > to keep on hand. Our children have never been stung so we > do not know what reactions they will have. We would rather > be safe than sorry. > I've been keeping bees for many years-I handle bees every day. I have two daughters 12 and 15 years old. Both have been stung from time to time, but > not frequently. I was helping the 12 year old with her homework, when she was stung on the calf by a honey bee. There were tears, and ice was administered. Within five minutes her throat was "scratchy" and her sinuses were becoming congested. Within ten minutes, she was cherry red from her knees to the top of her head. Ten minutes later we were at the hospital. She was given epineprin and benedryl. Half hour later she was ok, and ready to go home. Mine is not the only "beekeeping family" where this has happened. It is certainly not a rare occurance. I know of several families in beekeeping where one or more of the children have "become" allergic to bees. I've been told the reason for this is that the family is exposed to bee "dander" and not to venom. The body builds up the wrong kind on imunity cells (E cells instead of T cells or visa versa) and when a sting occurs the body goes into shock. Perhaps someone could explain it better? Anyway- what I am getting at is that if the family keeps bees, then everyone should receive stings regularly. Don't rely on an epipen to solve the problem. Protect yourself and your kids the correct way. I don't mean to be cruel, but it is really the best way. Gaelen starts venom therapy in January. Once desensitised she shouldn't hace to carry her epipen everywhere she goes. Mike > * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is Beautiful Article 22568 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!hammer.uoregon.edu!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!gxn.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsgate.cistron.nl!news.cistron.nl!not-for-mail From: "Frans van den Berg" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: (used) agricultural machines Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 15:55:43 +0100 Organization: Cistron Internet Services B.V. Lines: 15 Message-ID: <84ig93$5ni$1@enterprise.cistron.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: cs1p48.dial.cistron.nl X-Trace: enterprise.cistron.net 946652259 5874 62.216.3.49 (31 Dec 1999 14:57:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@cistron.nl NNTP-Posting-Date: 31 Dec 1999 14:57:39 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22568 Farmax digging machines Storti mixing wagons Manip' frontloaders Agrator cultivators Alpego breaker ploughs & rotary harrows Comeb multi-cultivators Cochet transport trailers Farmstore, supplier of agricultural machines for the Netherlands, Belgium and Luxembourg. Check it out at: http://www.farmstore.nl For more information: vdberg@farmstore.nl Article 22569 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.axxsys.net!newsfeed.enteract.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: beeman9334@my-deja.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Greetings. Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 17:28:05 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 9 Message-ID: <84iobc$kke$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.159.3.212 X-Article-Creation-Date: Fri Dec 31 17:28:05 1999 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 95) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x39.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 212.159.3.212 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDbeeman9334 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22569 A very Happy New Year to all the group. Many thanks for all the information, laughs, and occasional high blood pressure. I hope you all have a great time tonight and wish you all a good season to come. Best wishes from Scotland, beeman9334. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 22570 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: vasak@aol.com (Vasak) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: paint the inside ??? Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 04 Jan 2000 03:24:25 GMT References: <0146ce5a.9b3b2e80@usw-ex0101-002.remarq.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000103222425.04791.00000253@ng-cp1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22570 >Thanks for the info about painting the inside of the hives. I think >I'll go ahead and paint the inside of mine with some outdoor latex >paint. Dave, I used some old plywood for the inside top cover of one hive and for the floor. It had good quality enamel paint on both sides. We discovered that the bees were systematically removing the paint from their ceiling. They didn't bother the bottom board. Tiny flakes of paint ended up in the honey. After that experience I've decided to stick to unpainted inside surfaces. They quickly cover the surface with a thin layer of propolis. Herb Article 22572 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <3871F684.DD58B663@together.net> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 08:32:52 -0500 From: Michael Palmer Reply-To: mpalmer@together.net Organization: French Hill Apiaries X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: paint the inside ??? References: <09920fb9.af1f01d8@usw-ex0102-016.remarq.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: dial-79-tnt-btvt-01.ramp.together.net X-Trace: 4 Jan 2000 14:27:29 -0500, dial-79-tnt-btvt-01.ramp.together.net Lines: 17 Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!newshost.nmt.edu!newshost.lanl.gov!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news-out.uswest.net!news.together.net!dial-79-tnt-btvt-01.ramp.together.net Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22572 Mann Lake sells a product called copper napthenate. I mixed it, according to the instructions, with low odor mineral spirits. I dipped newly constructed supers in the solution, then left the supers outdoors to air out for a couple months. Does a real nice job. The outsides can be painted at a later date. Mike dave wrote: > Should you paint the inside of hives or supers ? > > Thanks > Dave > > * Sent from RemarQ http://www.remarq.com The Internet's Discussion Network * > The fastest and easiest way to search and participate in Usenet - Free! Article 22573 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Midnitebee" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: beekeeping assoc./club updates Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 09:28:44 -0500 Lines: 19 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.222.80.152 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.222.80.152 Message-ID: <38720149_2@news.cybertours.com> X-Trace: 4 Jan 2000 09:18:49 -0500, 209.222.80.152 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.98.63.6 Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!news-feed.fnsi.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!news.cybertours.com!209.222.80.152 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22573 Greetings! We would like to update our beekeeping assoc./club site. E-mail us directly and your listing will bee added. midnitebee@cybertours.com Herb/Norma Holly-B Apiary P.O. Box 26 Wells,Maine 04090-0026 Rare and Old Beekeeping Books http://www.cybertours.com/%7Emidnitebee/html/books.html Beekeeping Site http://www.cybertours.com/~midnitebee Stony Critters Maine's First Rock Painting Site http://pages.ivillage.com/wh/stonycritters/index.html "an educated consumer is YOUR best customer" Article 22574 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!faatcrl.faa.gov!hammer.uoregon.edu!platform.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.icl.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!denrosa.demon.co.uk!murray From: Murray McGregor Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: paint the inside ??? Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 11:44:36 +0000 Organization: Denrosa Ltd Distribution: world Message-ID: References: <946946708@zbee.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: denrosa.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: denrosa.demon.co.uk:194.222.100.90 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 946996536 nnrp-04:21256 NO-IDENT denrosa.demon.co.uk:194.222.100.90 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 3.04 Lines: 60 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22574 In article <946946708@zbee.com>, Christopher Slade writes >In the UK we usually use creosote to paint hives on the outside. A chap I know >who is a joiner by trade and also a semi commercial beekeeper creosotes his >hives inside and out. Normally they are very well aired before they are used >but on one occasion he used a brood box that had been freshly creosoted inside. > He found that there was some bald brood for a while but no other ill effects. >Chris Slade > >--- > * Origin: Beenet Point (240:244/186) In the days of 30 or more years ago we used to creosote the outsides of the boxes, but have not done so now for many years, although some (a minority here now) still do. Creosote is a good preservative BUT it is potentially very harmful, containing several nasty substances, at least one of which is carcinogenic. Used in moderation as an EXTERNAL treatment it is probably not a big risk. However, I know of one case recently when a commercial beekeeper who creosotes liberally, including inside the hive, had a substantial consignment of heather honey rejected by a German buyer because it was contaminated with creosote residues. These boxes had been treated fully two years earlier, but the fumes had impregnated the wax. I tried a sample of the honey and although it tasted a little different from my own it was apparently fine, but the buyer apparently detected a faint 'tarry' smell, had it analysed, and found significant creosote related contamination, plus PDB which he had been using to control wax moth in his shed. There are modern versions of creosote about without the worst of the ingredients, but they still have the smell. In the last few have reverted to painting again, with a good exterior paint over a good primer, but on the outside only. If we get any new boxes made of good quality cedar we never treat them at all. Another side to the creosote thing is a large scale beekeeper who believes that creosote controls tracheal mites, varroa, and a whole host of other things. They religiously creosote the outside of every hive every winter and also the inside of the floors. Not an opinion I share, but it is his point of view that creosote is a great cure-all. (Not the same guy as in the above bit about contamination). On balance I personally would NOT advise creosote, primarily on safety grounds, but also contamination. It may seem well aired, but if you can still smell it then it is still giving off fumes, and wax attracts these compounds. Kind regards Murray -- Murray McGregor Article 22575 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!uni01nw.unity.ncsu.edu!gatech!csulb.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!nntp.flash.net!news.flash.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <386F128E.16AEED3B@keelynet.com> From: "Jerry W. Decker" Reply-To: jdecker@keelynet.com Organization: KeelyNet X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: help identifying a bee Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 23 Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 08:51:15 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.30.171.252 X-Complaints-To: abuse@flash.net X-Trace: news.flash.net 946803075 209.30.171.252 (Sun, 02 Jan 2000 02:51:15 CST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 02:51:15 CST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22575 Hi Folks! I'm not sure if I can post to this list, but I need help in identifying this particular insect which I think is a bumblebee, I would certainly appreciate if someone here can identify it. All I have on it is this painting and it looks like some kind of long tongued bumblebee but I've never seen or heard of anything like it before; http://www.keelynet.com/temp/bug.htm I would need its name and where it is most commonly found as well as where I could get further details...thanks! -- Jerry Wayne Decker - jdecker@keelynet.com http://www.keelynet.com from an Art to a Science Voice : (214)324-8741 - FAX : (214)324-3501 KeelyNet - PO BOX 870716 Mesquite - Republic of Texas - 75187 Article 22576 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <386F3F0A.D26A0F30@zzclinic.net> Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2000 07:05:30 -0500 From: Bill Truesdell X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping To: Stan Wyler Subject: Re: Feeding Honey References: <84m1ae$90d2$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: d-p6-12.clinic.net X-Trace: 2 Jan 2000 12:05:00 GMT, d-p6-12.clinic.net Lines: 22 Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!uni01nw.unity.ncsu.edu!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.mv.net!News.Destek.net!d-p6-12.clinic.net Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22576 Stan Wyler wrote: > > Hello all - happy new year! > I have a some goldenrod honey that I would like to feed back to my hives due > to its undesireable qualities(smells and has crystalized). > Should it be diluted with water in the same proportions as sugar? > Thanks - Stan Depends on where you are located, but since you are probably in the north, I would not. Fall honey, which is usually goldenrod and aster, causes dysentary in bees if they cannot get out to void on clensing flights. Also, since it does crystalize quickly, it can be as bad as having no honey at all. I have found that older peoply and those who have used honey for a while, like the darker honeys because of its bold flavor, and they know all about honey crystallizing, so it is no big deal for them. So give it to those people. They will be greatful. And feed your bees sugar candy. They will be the better for it. Bill T Bath, ME -- If there is a zz before clinic.net, remove it to reply directly. Article 22577 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Midnitebee" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: update Date: Tue, 4 Jan 2000 16:06:58 -0500 Lines: 22 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.222.80.90 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.222.80.90 Message-ID: <38725eb5_2@news.cybertours.com> X-Trace: 4 Jan 2000 15:57:25 -0500, 209.222.80.90 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.98.63.6 Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!news.cybertours.com!209.222.80.90 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22577 Greetings! We have updated our "Articles" Page: George Imirie Jan 2000. http://www.cybertours.com/~midnitebee http://www.cybertours.com/%7Emidnitebee/html/jan2000.html -- Herb/Norma Holly-B Apiary P.O. Box 26 Wells,Maine 04090-0026 Rare and Old Beekeeping Books http://www.cybertours.com/%7Emidnitebee/html/books.html Beekeeping Site http://www.cybertours.com/~midnitebee Stony Critters Maine's First Rock Painting Site http://pages.ivillage.com/wh/stonycritters/index.html "an educated consumer is YOUR best customer" Article 22578 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.new-york.net!newspeer1.nac.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail From: honeybs@radix.net (honeybs) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: 1/4/00 Maple in bloom! Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 00:16:32 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 14 Message-ID: <84u1h7$qlm$1@news1.Radix.Net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p28.a1.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22578 It's only the forth day into January and I saw a maple starting to bloom. It's going to be a crazy year. ' Going to have to watch the girls real close this spring. Greg the beekeep // Bee Just & Just Bee! =8{ })))- Chicamuxen, Maryland, USA \\ www.radix.net\~honeybs Article 22579 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.axxsys.net!remarQ-easT!remarQ.com!supernews.com!portc05.blue.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: harrisonrw@aol.com (HarrisonRW) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Could this possibly be! Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 01 Jan 2000 14:12:50 GMT References: <01bf543e$03aae460$23a24cc6@default> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000101091250.03868.00000254@ng-ci1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22579 > >All you snow puppies up there, don't get upset but here the temp is >supposed to be 60 Here in south western Connecticut along the shore of Long Island Sound (41 degrees lat) we will also be warmer than normal with the temps close to 50 degrees. Again this year we are having a warmer than normal winter.We have kept the girls heavy with honey this year anticipating that they would use more stores than normal because of the mild temps. Wishing you all a "Happy New Year" may you have good health and no swarms. Regards, Ralph Harrison Western CT Beekeepers Association Milford, CT Article 22580 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.algonet.se!algonet!masternews.telia.net!newsfeed.bcn.ttd.net!news.bcn.ttd.net!not-for-mail From: islapro Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Manuka seeds wanted Date: Fri, 31 Dec 1999 19:49:37 +0000 Organization: Telefonica Transmision de Datos Lines: 88 Message-ID: <386D08D0.504EED06@islapro.com> References: <38688432.2F6DE282@islapro.com> Reply-To: islapro@islapro.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip211.bdf.es Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,es,en-US,tr Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22580 > > Manuka is Leptospermum scoparium. > > Described variously as a bush, shrub or more often, a shrubby tree. > > New Zealanders will give you better information on this one, but we do > sell the honey (imported from NZ) here in the UK. > > Unless you are prepared to gear your extracting plant to deal with a gel > honey like Calluna, and one with a highly distinctive and dominant > taste, it is probably better to avoid this one. > Thank you, I will wait for next November. > > Phacelia tanacetifolia mentioned in your other post is a cracker of a > honey plant. A botanist friend pass me the seeds, in his working "field" there was no way to keep the bees away from the Phacelias. I have enough seeds for 1/2 acre, during the summer months I intend to water spray (irrigation) every three days. The objective is to study the plant in full depth. I intend to collect enough seeds for several acres next year, the project is for 200 Lb.. per hive. > An example of this is Canadian and New Zealand > strains of Trifloium repens (white clover). These are great yielders in > their own countries, and for at least the last 40 years have been the > basis of the 'undersow' in pasture around here (Scotland). I will looking for white clover, again irrigated, since the Mediterranean climate in July, August and Sept. is quite oppressive. > Also you will need to see these things over a long period to establish > their value in your area. Compared to us you have a consistent climate > but will still have periods of drought and wetter spells. Some of the > plants you mention, such as manuka, will take several years to come to > proper maturity, so your study is going to take many years. > I posted the 1st. article, of the intended project, the local beekeepers magazine will print it this january, the colleges stated that is the first documented approach to the beekeeping in the island. http://www.islapro.com/abeja101.htm the project http://www.islapro.com/asbeja01.htm the http://www.islapro.com/abeja02.htm the local association > > It might be better to migrate your bees to the best of your local > forage, than to try to migrate in plants from alien environments. > In the island of Mallorca, Spain there is no possibility of migrating. There are only four person that I know that earn a leaving with bees, the rest we are "amateurs". And the paradox is that the bees produce honey in the winter months, and in they have three regular harvest per year: rosmarinus from November until April. carub trees from October to December almond in January prunes in February citrus (orange) March and April fig tree (the fruits= figs) September the problem is July, August and September only the wild asparagus flower and produce in August and September, depending if we get summer rains, so I am trying to feel the gap. As per the botanical implication, my main interest is in botany and second beekeeping. I produced the flowering charts for the several areas which serve as a guide to the beekeepers. Article 22581 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!lester.appstate.edu!uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.icl.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!gxn.net!easynet-uk!easynet.net!peer1.news.dircon.net!peer2.news.dircon.net!reader.news.dircon.net!not-for-mail From: christopher.slade@zbee.com (Christopher Slade) To: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Inbreeding of queens Message-ID: <946946707@zbee.com> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 00:21:44 +0000 Distribution: world Organization: ZbeeNet computer networking for beekeepers CHRS: IBMPC 2 CODEPAGE: 850 MSGID: 240:244/186 81605194 REPLY: 240:44/0 6b02c291 PID: FDAPX/w 1.13 UnReg(48) X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.112.43.78 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.112.32.19 Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: newsread3.dircon.co.uk X-Trace: reader.news.dircon.net 946967519 4119 194.112.32.19 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22581 There are about 20 different "Allelles" of the relevent genes that determine gender. These are very slightly different versions of the same gene. An ordinary drone being haploid has only one set of chromosomes and therefore one of these genes. This is all he needs and is fine. A worker or a queen is diploid and has two sets and as long as they are different as is usually the case she will be fine also. However, sometimes the ball on the roulette wheel will fall on zero and in that order of frequency with natural matings the fertilised egg will have two identical allelles. Instead of being female the baby will theoretically turn into a "diploid drone". I say theoretically because usually the workers will recognise that there is something wrong with the larva as soon as it hatches and eat it. All the beekeeper notices is a gap in the brood pattern. Diploid drones can be reared artificially and turn out to be very robust drones. When bees are mated artificially, either by instrumentation or by isolation, only with very close relatives it is possible to obtain as many as 50% diploid drones but except in these special circumstances this is not a problem for the ordinary beekeeper rearing their own queens. This is a very condensed and therefore probably not entirely accurate version of a series of articles by John Atkinson in the Beekeepers Quarterly. I have not yet read his book which will cover the subject in depth but have it on order from the library. I always read a book before I buy it. If it is worth reading, it is worth reading twice. Chris Slade --- * Origin: Beenet Point (240:244/186) Article 22582 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!lester.appstate.edu!uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu!gatech!EU.net!blackbush.xlink.net!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.icl.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!gxn.net!easynet-uk!easynet.net!peer1.news.dircon.net!peer2.news.dircon.net!reader.news.dircon.net!not-for-mail From: christopher.slade@zbee.com (Christopher Slade) To: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: paint the inside ??? Message-ID: <946946708@zbee.com> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 00:27:14 +0000 Distribution: world Organization: ZbeeNet computer networking for beekeepers CHRS: IBMPC 2 CODEPAGE: 850 MSGID: 240:244/186 8160663a REPLY: 240:44/0 ea08f1c2 PID: FDAPX/w 1.13 UnReg(48) X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.112.43.78 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.112.32.19 Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: newsread3.dircon.co.uk X-Trace: reader.news.dircon.net 946967521 4119 194.112.32.19 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22582 In the UK we usually use creosote to paint hives on the outside. A chap I know who is a joiner by trade and also a semi commercial beekeeper creosotes his hives inside and out. Normally they are very well aired before they are used but on one occasion he used a brood box that had been freshly creosoted inside. He found that there was some bald brood for a while but no other ill effects. Chris Slade --- * Origin: Beenet Point (240:244/186) Article 22583 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!lester.appstate.edu!uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!europa.netcrusader.net!192.148.253.68!netnews.com!newspeer1.nac.net!peer1.news.dircon.net!peer2.news.dircon.net!reader.news.dircon.net!not-for-mail From: christopher.slade@zbee.com (Christopher Slade) To: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: paint the inside ??? Message-ID: <946946709@zbee.com> Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 00:35:22 +0000 Distribution: world Organization: ZbeeNet computer networking for beekeepers CHRS: IBMPC 2 CODEPAGE: 850 MSGID: 240:244/186 816084a5 REPLY: 240:44/0 68e36de0 PID: FDAPX/w 1.13 UnReg(48) X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.112.43.78 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.112.32.19 Lines: 6 NNTP-Posting-Host: newsread3.dircon.co.uk X-Trace: reader.news.dircon.net 946967521 4119 194.112.32.19 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22583 There are various grades of cuprinol for various purposes. Some of them contain insecticite and will be lethal to bees. Read the label carefully before you buy. Chris Slade --- * Origin: Beenet Point (240:244/186) Article 22584 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!faatcrl.faa.gov!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: jrbee2@my-deja.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: RE: seeking bee pollen analysis. Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 04:24:20 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 43 Message-ID: <84uh17$4gg$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <19991219090830.03879.00000130@ng-fd1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.179.173.70 X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Jan 05 04:24:20 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x38.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 207.179.173.70 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDjrbee2 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22584 In article , "Allen Dick" wrote: > > >I'm trying to find out the nutritional analysis of bee pollen. > > >Especially in terms of percentages/milligrams of specific vitamins, > > >minerals, amino acids, etc > > There is a bit of information on the web about different pollens. Links to some > of it can be found from http://www.internode.net/HoneyBee/ by selecting the > 'Pollen Patties' link on the left menu. The emphasis is on feeding bees > substitutes, but there is a link to Australian research on canola pollens and > more. If anyone has further links, I'd appreciate hearing about them. > > There is some considerable discussion in "The Hive and the Honey Bee" about > pollens and the needs of bees as well. > > Peace. > > allen > ----- > See if your questions have been answered in over a decade of discussions. > BEE-L archives & more: http://www.internode.net/HoneyBee/Bee-l.htm > Search sci.agriculture.beekeeping at http://www.deja.com/ > or visit http://www.internode.net/HoneyBee to access both on the same page. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. You want to know more check the following : http://ubeehealthy2.hypermart.net Jean Roger > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 22585 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!uwm.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: jrbee2@my-deja.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: RE: seeking bee pollen analysis. Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 04:33:56 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <84uhjj$4tg$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <19991219090830.03879.00000130@ng-fd1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.179.173.70 X-Article-Creation-Date: Wed Jan 05 04:33:56 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x38.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 207.179.173.70 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDjrbee2 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22585 Hello, I was reading your concerns about bee pollen analysis. Please feel free to visit the following site for your answers: http://ubeehealthy2.hypermart.net for mor info contact me at: jrbee2@my-deja.com Happy returns... Jean Roger Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 22586 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!sdd.hp.com!enews.sgi.com!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-was.dfn.de!news-koe1.dfn.de!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.man.poznan.pl!news.icm.edu.pl!plonk.apk.net!news.apk.net!news.nitco.com!not-for-mail From: Chad Howell Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: 1/4/00 Maple in bloom! Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 21:17:51 -0600 Organization: NetNITCO Internet Services Lines: 37 Message-ID: <3872B7DF.EFFEA44F@netnitco.net> References: <84u1h7$qlm$1@news1.Radix.Net> <84uc7o$eau$1@bgtnsc01.worldnet.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: valpo-quad-1-50.netnitco.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: hyperion.nitco.com 947042828 3553 216.176.149.50 (5 Jan 2000 03:27:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsadmin@netnitco.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Jan 2000 03:27:08 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22586 You guys make me sick with envy. The only thing bloomin here is snowflakes!!!! Damn winter. Wish it was 60 degrees now but we in the northern states have to wait 3 more months. One good thing though is that this weather gives a guy time to make the supers. May the Gods smile upon all of you this year. Chad Howell George Styer wrote: > Just saw a bit on the news that the almond buds are starting to swell a bit > early. Beekeepers with pollination contracts may eed to make some hurry up. > We are at about 23% of average for precipitation for this time of year. > > -- > Geo > Sacramento, in California's great Central Valley > "Honey is sweet but the bee stings" > gstyLer@worldnet.att.net > To respond via email, get the "L" out of there > > "honeybs" wrote in message > news:84u1h7$qlm$1@news1.Radix.Net... > > It's only the forth day into January and I saw a maple > > starting to bloom. It's going to be a crazy year. ' Going > > to have to watch the girls real close this spring. > > > > Greg the beekeep > > > > > > > > // Bee Just & Just Bee! > > =8{ })))- Chicamuxen, Maryland, USA > > \\ www.radix.net\~honeybs > > > > > > Article 22587 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!uwm.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newspeer1.nac.net!nntp.frontiernet.net!nntp.gctr.net!news.frontiernet.net!not-for-mail From: "busybee" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: PBS - NOVA Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 07:06:47 -0600 Organization: Frontier GlobalCenter Inc. Lines: 17 Message-ID: <84vfkh$jk8$1@node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209-130-165-59.nas1.lec.gblx.net X-Trace: node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net 947077585 20104 209.130.165.59 (5 Jan 2000 13:06:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@frontiernet.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Jan 2000 13:06:25 GMT X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22587 Did anyone happen to catch "Tales from the Hive" - a PBS NOVA program? It was EXCELLENT! What a beautiful film. Does anyone know where this was filmed? My guess was Europe... I did not know about the "death mask moth" or the "bee eater" birds... very interesting. I really liked the way it gave a bee's eye view--had to be done with a blue screen. I would like to buy a copy but didn't catch the 1-800 number...can anyone help? TIA- Busybee Article 22588 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!nyc-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!newsfeed.mathworks.com!nntp.flash.net!nntp.corpcomm.net!cyclone-l3!cyclone-l3.usenetserver.com!news4.usenetserver.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hamilton@pbssite.com (Dave Hamilton) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: PBS - NOVA Message-ID: <3873475a.577923828@news.usenetserver.com> References: <84vfkh$jk8$1@node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 5 X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Complaints-To: admin@usenetserver.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 08:28:51 EST Organization: UseNet Server, Inc. http://www.usenetserver.com - Home of the fastest NNTP servers on the Net. Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 13:32:11 GMT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22588 This was the first time my wife showed any interest in my bees .. it was a wonderful program .. a few facts were mixed up but generally a very good introduction to the facinating lives of our ladies. Unfortuneatly the national championship was on at the same time so I will be viewship was low. Maybe they will have it again? Article 22589 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!uwm.edu!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gctr.net!remarQ-easT!remarQ.com!supernews.com!portc05.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jajwuth@aol.com (Jajwuth) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: PBS - NOVA Lines: 16 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 05 Jan 2000 13:38:18 GMT References: <84vfkh$jk8$1@node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net> Organization: AOL Canada http://www.aol.ca X-Newsreader: Session Scheduler Message-ID: <20000105083818.23286.00000001@nso-ba.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22589 I saw the program. It was interesting about how the the moth mimics the odour of the hive and the sound of the queen to disguise itself within the hive. The program gave a good visual showing of the concept of bee space. The beekeeper had his hives what appeared to be in the exterior wall of a building and worked the hives from within the building. Does anybody know a reference from this type of setup?. The program refered to bees as engineers I also read in the paper today where NASA is using flexible honeycomb shaped walls for some of their space architecture. Al Article 22590 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!faatcrl.faa.gov!hammer.uoregon.edu!news-feed.fnsi.net!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.mtu.edu!not-for-mail From: Timothy C. Eisele Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: PBS - NOVA Date: 5 Jan 2000 13:50:20 GMT Organization: Michigan Technological University Lines: 16 Message-ID: <84vi6s$fr1$1@campus3.mtu.edu> References: <84vfkh$jk8$1@node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net> <20000105083818.23286.00000001@nso-ba.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: milkyway.mm.mtu.edu X-Trace: campus3.mtu.edu 947080220 16225 141.219.66.35 (5 Jan 2000 13:50:20 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@mtu.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 Jan 2000 13:50:20 GMT X-Newsreader: TIN [UNIX IT-DCS binary version 970321; sun4u SunOS 5.6] Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22590 Jajwuth wrote: : I saw the program. : The beekeeper had his hives what appeared to be in the exterior wall of a : building and worked the hives from within the building. Does anybody know a : reference from this type of setup?. I haven't seen the program yet (our PBS station isn't showing it until tonight), but this sounds like the setup for "leaf hives" that are apparently used with some frequency in Europe. I read about these hives in a book titled "Beekeeping : A Practical Guide for the Novice Beekeeper" by Werner Melzer, Walter Berghoff, and Matthew M. Vriends. It's a short paperback, costs about $7, and has a lot of nice photographs. Tim Eisele tceisele@mtu.edu Article 22591 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.erols.net!europa.netcrusader.net!209.249.97.47!remarQ-easT!remarQ.com!supernews.com!portc05.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.comnospam (Dave Green) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Pollination on Mars? Yup, for real! Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder07.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 05 Jan 2000 14:53:33 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000105095333.09218.00000788@ng-fs1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22591 If you think we're storying, check out the pollination news at the *rebuilt* Pollination Home Page: http://pollinator.com How can you tell if your garden pollination is inadequate? How can you fix the problem, if it is? This is a page designed first of all for crop growers and gardeners, to help them manage pollination. But it also should interest beekeepers. In the past I have resisted using links to beekeeping sources, unless they dealt specificially with pollination. Now we have a page of beekeeper resources that will (link to A FEW good beekeeping pages). At the risk of offending some (because there is not going to be room for all), I invite you to submit links for consideration. Still be thinking in terms of pollination, such as the new beekeeper who needs help after buying bees to pollinate his or her garden. Is your site going to help this kind of beekeeper, who often hasn't a clue in the beekeeping area? Does your site have any unique resources? Dave, AKA Pollinator, AKA "The Pumpkin Patch Pimp" Pollinator@aol.com The Pollination Home Page: http://pollinator.com Article 22592 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!faatcrl.faa.gov!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.axxsys.net!newspump.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!uunet!ffx.uu.net!portc05.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.comnospam (Dave Green) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Doin' Crop Pollination? Lines: 21 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder07.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 05 Jan 2000 14:56:53 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000105095653.09218.00000791@ng-fs1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22592 A worldwide list of beekeepers who do crop pollination service is a feature of The Pollination Home Page. If you do this, you will want to bee listed...and you can bee...absolutely free of charge...simply by emailing me with the data. Please be as complete as you can: name of business, your name, e-mail and snail mail address, phone, number of hives available, what crops you will do, and areas you will go to. You may also wish to give a link to your web site. This list will be made available to fruit/veggie growers on the internet, and to a limited extent, by snail mail. We are going into the next generation of the internet. Farmers have been slow in coming online, but are rapidly catching up. Don't be left behind... Dave Green Pollinator@aol.com The Pollination Home Page: http://pollinator.com Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA The Pollination Scene: http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Jan's Sweetness and Light Shop (Varietal Honeys and Beeswax Candles) http://users.aol.com/SweetnessL/sweetlit.htm Article 22593 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!uwm.edu!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gctr.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed2.news.nl.uu.net!sun4nl!uunet!ams.uu.net!ffx.uu.net!xyzzy!nntp From: "Billy Y. Smart II" Subject: Re: PBS - NOVA X-Nntp-Posting-Host: rs496769.ks.boeing.com Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------7D18E55BDA5270ED4F66E018" Message-ID: <38736C7B.1C0E3653@nospam.boeing.com> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (Boeing NNTP News Access) Organization: Tooling Numeric Control Programming - Wichita Division References: <84vfkh$jk8$1@node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net> <20000105083818.23286.00000001@nso-ba.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 16:08:28 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (X11; I; AIX 4.3) Lines: 51 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22593 --------------7D18E55BDA5270ED4F66E018 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jajwuth wrote: > I also read in the paper today where NASA is using flexible honeycomb shaped > walls for some of their space architecture. > > Al At Boeing we have used honeycomb-shaped composites for years in the engine nacelles/thrust reversers for their noise reducing properties. The cells absorb sound energy. Engineers even refer to it as "honeycomb". I think the company that produces it is called "Hexcel". -- Billy Y. Smart II /* If the opinions expressed herein reflect those of the */ /* Boeing Company, it would be entirely coincidental. */ /* Remove the "NOSPAM" from the address to reply */ --------------7D18E55BDA5270ED4F66E018 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Jajwuth wrote:

I also read in the paper today where NASA is using flexible honeycomb shaped
walls  for some of their space architecture.

Al

 At Boeing we have used honeycomb-shaped composites for years in the engine nacelles/thrust reversers for their noise reducing properties. The cells absorb sound energy. Engineers even refer to it as "honeycomb". I think the company that produces it is called "Hexcel". 
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  --------------7D18E55BDA5270ED4F66E018-- Article 22594 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!faatcrl.faa.gov!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!remarQ70!rQdQ!supernews.com!remarQ.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "mark osgood" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: PBS - NOVA Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 12:31:35 -0600 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 12 Message-ID: References: <84vfkh$jk8$1@node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net> X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.5 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22594 >I would like to buy a copy but didn't catch the 1-800 number...can anyone >help? > >TIA- >Busybee Check out www.pbs.org for details of the documentary and info on the director, beekeeper, etc. Our family was riveted to the set for an hour. How about the chains of bees to "measure a new hive space"? Mark Article 22595 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <3873823D.2E2@ktc.com> Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 11:41:17 -0600 From: Karen & Kevin X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E-KIT (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: new beekeepers References: <0924c354.526c7ce0@usw-ex0109-070.remarq.com> <386E095B.1333661B@together.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.163.199.89 X-Trace: 5 Jan 2000 11:52:13 -0600, 209.163.199.89 Lines: 5 Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.cwix.com!news2.fibr.net!207.71.36.3!209.163.199.89 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22595 Our family physician was an excellent source of information. I had the same concerns and he asked if I was allergic to red dye. Apparently those allergic to red dye, also are frequently allergic to bee venom. Other than that he said get stung every so often and you shouldn't have a problem. Article 22596 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!nntp.abs.net!chnws02.mediaone.net!cyclone-east.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-east.rr.com!portc05.blue.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: orangerose@aol.com (Orangerose) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: PBS - NOVA Lines: 18 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 05 Jan 2000 23:15:46 GMT References: <84vfkh$jk8$1@node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000105181546.06964.00000706@ng-cj1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22596 >It was EXCELLENT! What a beautiful film. Does anyone know where this was >filmed? My guess was Europe... It was filmed in Germany--the town scenes in the background had german signage. Probably Bavaria or Schwabia. (looked like it) The names on the credits were largely german, too. >I did not know about the "death mask moth" or the "bee eater" birds.. Don't know about the moths, but I saw another special on the bee eater birds awhile back, and I seem to remember that they are from the tropics--either SE Asia or Africa. I can't imagine a bird so multi colored and tropical looking in Europe... Kelly Article 22597 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!uwm.edu!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!howland.erols.net!WCG.MISMATCH!news-feeder.wcg.net!WCG!news.nitco.com!not-for-mail From: Chad Howell Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: PBS - NOVA Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 18:11:32 -0600 Organization: NetNITCO Internet Services Lines: 23 Message-ID: <3873DDB3.1F11673F@netnitco.net> References: <84vfkh$jk8$1@node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net> <20000105181546.06964.00000706@ng-cj1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: valpo-quad-2-156.netnitco.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: hyperion.nitco.com 947118051 16505 216.176.149.156 (6 Jan 2000 00:20:51 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsadmin@netnitco.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Jan 2000 00:20:51 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22597 I thought that it was excellent. My entire family watched the program. After watching the program it really made me feel good about my relationship with bees. They are quite a little powerhouse. I too found it interesting on the bee chain measuring that they do. They are so efficient. Orangerose wrote: > >It was EXCELLENT! What a beautiful film. Does anyone know where this was > >filmed? My guess was Europe... > > It was filmed in Germany--the town scenes in the background had german signage. > Probably Bavaria or Schwabia. (looked like it) The names on the credits were > largely german, too. > > >I did not know about the "death mask moth" or the "bee eater" birds.. > > Don't know about the moths, but I saw another special on the bee eater birds > awhile back, and I seem to remember that they are from the tropics--either SE > Asia or Africa. I can't imagine a bird so multi colored and tropical looking > in Europe... > > Kelly Article 22598 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!cyclone-east.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-east.rr.com!portc05.blue.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: harrisonrw@aol.com (HarrisonRW) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: PBS - NOVA Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 06 Jan 2000 01:25:56 GMT References: <3873475a.577923828@news.usenetserver.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000105202556.20092.00000867@ng-fv1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22598 Go to pbs.org then NOVA and enter your zip code in the box and it will tell you when it is on again in your area. Here in the Metro NY area it is on again on Fri. Jan.8th. at 5AM. Regards, Ralph Harrison Western CT Beekeepers Association Milford, CT Article 22599 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.icl.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!nnrp4.clara.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Nick Templar" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Drones in Winter Lines: 42 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 00:06:32 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.8.86.193 X-Complaints-To: abuse@clara.net X-Trace: nnrp4.clara.net 947117192 195.8.86.193 (Thu, 06 Jan 2000 00:06:32 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 00:06:32 GMT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22599 My friend Justas hasn't got a computer so I said that I would post this message here to see if any beekeeper could supply an explanation... It's Winter in the United Kingdom and most of the time it's cold and wet. Just for a change New Year's day dawned sunny and warm (about 10C) and Justas decided to visit his bees to see if their hives were in order and wish the girls a Happy New Year. Whilst bending down at the entrance you can imagine his surprise when a Drone flew into the hive (no jokes folks this is serious). Now Justas's bees can't read, but Justas can, and it says in his beekeeeping book (and mine for that matter) that Drones are expelled from the hive in Winter and die, so what's going on, do all Drones die in Winter and what can be the explanation? When last inspected in October the colony was Queen-right and on New Years Day they were bringing in a small quantity of pollen (possibly Ivy) there seems no reason to believe that the Queen has failed. Regards and a happy new beekeeping season (or New Year) to you all. Nick The opinions and information contained in this message are not subject to copyright. All persons have their own opinions and information is where you find it, opinions and information appear to you as you see them. Please respect the opinions and information from other people as you would like yours respected. Always feel free to add your own opinion and information on the subject at hand although they may vary greatly. Article 22600 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!nntp2.giganews.com!news6.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Bob Young" Subject: formic acid gel packs Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Message-ID: <01bf57ed$ff9231e0$75c9a1d0@default> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 Lines: 3 NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 20:26:24 CST Organization: Giganews.Com - Premium News Outsourcing X-Trace: sv2-sBov9XG/UxEIM4A7cJgLJhDxGnG2AYV5ZBF0uQl9RWcQA9i+dYFZ4BQS+ZznOnjqSnzvEuP6CJDZLfI!MKTzjp227B23k2hyCc/AcvT71zIYggiaZQ== X-Complaints-To: abuse@GigaNews.Com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 02:26:24 GMT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22600 Is formic acid gel available in the USA yet? If not, will it be soon? Bob Y. Article 22602 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news-feeder.wcg.net!WCG!cabal12.airnews.net!news.airnews.net!cabal1.airnews.net!news-f.iadfw.net!usenet From: Voltz family Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: PBS - NOVA Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 21:19:14 -0600 Organization: Internet Express (using Airnews.net!) Lines: 16 Message-ID: <0394BEA308ED0819.0E88EC02ED205869.EF9FB290206DD519@lp.airnews.net> X-Orig-Message-ID: <387409B2.ADE6D529@netexpress.net> References: <84vfkh$jk8$1@node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net> Abuse-Reports-To: newsadmin at netexpress.net to report improper postings NNTP-Proxy-Relay: library.airnews.net NNTP-Posting-Time: Wed Jan 5 21:22:28 2000 NNTP-Posting-Host: !Xk8=0ROu[!hJ*m (Encoded at Airnews!) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.51 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22602 Our family was also glued to the PBS station showing NOVA's 'Tales from the Hive.' The telephone number for ordering your own copy of the program is: 1-800-255-9424 Also, if you check out the pbs.org web site, there's a large amount of information about the program itself, how it was produced, and about the bees themselves. It's well worth the time to check it out. Sue > Article 22603 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!uwm.edu!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gctr.net!newsfeed.cwix.com!cyclone-east.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-east.rr.com!portc05.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hk1beeman@aol.com (Hk1BeeMan) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: PBS - NOVA Lines: 8 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder07.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 06 Jan 2000 04:00:11 GMT References: <20000105083818.23286.00000001@nso-ba.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000105230011.03884.00001107@ng-fx1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22603 >The beekeeper had his hives what appeared to be in the exterior wall of a >building and worked the hives from within the building. Does anybody k european bee house, we don't use em here in the states Kevin Johnson, Big Johnson Beekeeping, Lillington NC Article 22604 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!uwm.edu!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gctr.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-feed.fnsi.net!nntp.msen.com!206.132.58.120.MISMATCH!gw22.nn.bcandid.com!hub12.nn.bcandid.com!tw12.nn.bcandid.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Gordon Hayes" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <5wTc4.6855$S3.335810@tw12.nn.bcandid.com> Subject: Re: Research Lab Links Lines: 39 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.120.21.254 X-Trace: tw12.nn.bcandid.com 947132217 204.120.21.254 (Wed, 05 Jan 2000 21:16:57 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2000 21:16:57 MST Organization: bCandid - Powering the world's discussions - http://bCandid.com Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 20:59:40 -0600 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22604 Oh, Almost forgot. Tucson's lab site has S.E. McGregor's Pollination Handbook (that's a joke. I had a hard copy of it a few years back. Wouldn't exactly call it a "handbook") online. With a search tool no less. -- Gordon Hayes New Harmony, Indiana, USA flashgh@evansville.net http://www.evansville.net/~flashgh http://www.sixfigureincome.com/?122477 "Gordon Hayes" wrote in message news:5wTc4.6855$S3.335810@tw12.nn.bcandid.com... > Here are a couple of links to Bee Research Labs. The one in Tucson was not > real easy to find with a search engine. What a shame. Thought everyone might > enjoy them. > > Am looking forward to spring. Planning to get a couple of hives. Will be > able to put them at my new job. Lots of flowers and shrubs around as well as > Black Locust groves galore. And Tulip Poplars and Soybeans also. > > > http://sun.ars-grin.gov/ars/Beltsville/barc/psi/brl/brl-page.html > http://gears.tucson.ars.ag.gov/ > -- > Gordon Hayes > New Harmony, Indiana, USA > > flashgh@evansville.net > http://www.evansville.net/~flashgh > http://www.sixfigureincome.com/?122477 > > > Article 22605 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!faatcrl.faa.gov!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!cyclone-l3!cyclone-l3.usenetserver.com!news4.usenetserver.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hamilton@pbssite.com (Dave Hamilton) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Drones in Winter Message-ID: <38749eff.665897343@news.usenetserver.com> References: X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 56 X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Complaints-To: admin@usenetserver.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 08:54:32 EST Organization: UseNet Server, Inc. http://www.usenetserver.com - Home of the fastest NNTP servers on the Net. Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 13:57:52 GMT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22605 Nick Throwing the drones out is related to the dearth of pollen not necessarily the temperature. I don't know how the fall was in the UK but here in the midwest we had a beautiful warm fall and a warm winter ( for us ). They may have brought pollen in all fall??? Dave On Thu, 06 Jan 2000 00:06:32 GMT, "Nick Templar" wrote: >My friend Justas hasn't got a computer so I said that I would post this >message >here to see if any beekeeper could supply an explanation... > >It's Winter in the United Kingdom and most of the time it's cold and wet. >Just >for a change New Year's day dawned sunny and warm (about 10C) and Justas >decided to visit his bees to see if their hives were in order and wish the >girls a >Happy New Year. > >Whilst bending down at the entrance you can imagine his surprise when a >Drone flew into the hive (no jokes folks this is serious). Now Justas's >bees can't read, but Justas can, and it says in his beekeeeping book (and >mine for that matter) that Drones are expelled from the hive in Winter and >die, so what's going on, do all Drones die in Winter and what can be the >explanation? > > When last inspected in October the colony was Queen-right and on New Years >Day they were bringing in a small quantity of pollen (possibly Ivy) there >seems no reason to believe that the Queen has failed. > >Regards and a happy new beekeeping season (or New Year) to you all. > >Nick > >The opinions and information contained in this message are not subject to >copyright. All persons have their own opinions and information is where you >find it, opinions and information appear to you as you see them. Please >respect the opinions and information from other people as you would like >yours respected. Always feel free to add your own opinion and information >on the subject at hand although they may vary greatly. > > > > > > > > > > Article 22606 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!uwm.edu!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gctr.net!newspeer1.nac.net!news1.radix.net!saltmine.radix.net!not-for-mail From: adamf@saltmine.radix.net (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping,sci.bio.entomology.misc Subject: Source for determining regulations on U.S.A. intra-state insect transportation via commercial aircraft Date: 6 Jan 2000 11:02:19 -0500 Organization: Self-Organized. Dig that. Lines: 19 Message-ID: <852eab$g2q$1@saltmine.radix.net> Reply-To: adamf@radix.net NNTP-Posting-Host: saltmine.radix.net Summary: I'm not asking about importing honey bees into the U.S.A. Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22606 sci.bio.entomology.misc:10364 Hello. I hope you've all had a smooth transition into the 21st century. I need to ascertain if I can transport ~50 queen honey bees and associated attendants in traveling cages, on a public flight, as carry-on luggage. Obviously, I can mail them, but they are special research queens, and I'd rather transport them myself. Driving them would be simple, but I do not have the time to make the trip by car. Would anyone know who to contact regarding the regulations for carry-on animals in the U.S.A.? Thanks, Adam -- Adam Finkelstein adamf@radix.net http://metalab.unc.edu/bees/adamf Article 22607 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!209.133.60.2.MISMATCH!localhost!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!remarQ70!rQdQ!supernews.com!remarQ.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "Jenn C" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: PBS - NOVA Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2000 12:31:45 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 28 Message-ID: References: <84vfkh$jk8$1@node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net> X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3612.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3612.1700 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22607 busybee wrote in message <84vfkh$jk8$1@node17.cwnet.frontiernet.net>... >Did anyone happen to catch "Tales from the Hive" - a PBS NOVA program? > >It was EXCELLENT! What a beautiful film. Does anyone know where this was >filmed? My guess was Europe... > >I did not know about the "death mask moth" or the "bee eater" birds... very >interesting. I really liked the way it gave a bee's eye view--had to be >done with a blue screen. > >I would like to buy a copy but didn't catch the 1-800 number...can anyone >help? > >TIA- >Busybee > > > We watched it las-night and it was so wonderful :) The number is 1-800-255-9424. I cant wait to get our first bee's! They look like such interesting little folk. Jenn Article 22608 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!uwm.edu!nntp.primenet.com!nntp.gctr.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: jrbee2@my-deja.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: seeking bee pollen anylysis. Date: Thu, 06 Jan 2000 18:33:08 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 29 Message-ID: <852n54$772$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <83h2ht$4vh$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.179.183.119 X-Article-Creation-Date: Thu Jan 06 18:33:08 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x38.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 207.179.183.119 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDjrbee2 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22608 In article <83h2ht$4vh$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, kjmason1@yahoo.com wrote: > > > I'm trying to find out the nutritional analysis of bee pollen. > Especially in terms of percentages/milligrams of specific vitamins, > minerals, amino acids, etc > > Thanks > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. > Hello, I think I have the answer and more for you... Look on: http://ubeehealthy2.hypermart.net happy returns... JRBEE2 Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 22609 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!cyclone.nyroc.rr.com!news.nyroc.rr.com!cyclone-east.rr.com!news.rr.com!news-east.rr.com!portc05.blue.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jmitc1014@aol.com (JMitc1014) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: PBS - NOVA Lines: 1 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 06 Jan 2000 19:04:35 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000106140435.01021.00000165@ng-fi1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:22609 The credits said it was filmed in Austria. Article 22610 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!lester.appstate.edu!uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.tli.de!newsfeed.nacamar.de!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!gxn.net!newsfeed.icl.net!colt.net!newsfeeds.belnet.be!naxos.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news.rediris.es!newsfeed.mad.ttd.net!newsfeed.bcn.ttd.net!news.bcn.ttd.net!not-for-mail From: islapro Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Manuka seeds wanted Date: Tue, 04 Jan 2000 18:39:03 +0000 Organization: Telefonica Transmision de Datos Lines: 66 Message-ID: <38723E47.73FA6A74@islapro.com> References: <38688432.2F6DE282@islapro.com> <386D08D0.504EED06@islapro.com> <4PErrSATOqb4Ewn+@kilty.demon.co.uk> Reply-To: islapro@islapro.com NNTP-Posting-Host: ip221.bdf.es Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en,es,en-US,tr Xref: