Article 34049 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bees nest photo Date: Sat, 1 Mar 2003 00:08:50 -0000 Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <1c7cf400.0302251051.64bf9d61@posting.google.com> <3E5BFD8E.94A10E47@hcis.net> <1c7cf400.0302260956.1ee6840f@posting.google.com> <1c7cf400.0302280308.5e8fffa3@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.129.6 X-Trace: newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk 1046477349 5177 217.135.129.6 (1 Mar 2003 00:09:09 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Mar 2003 00:09:09 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!colt.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34049 If it is a wasps' nest then it will be empty. "TC" wrote in message news:1c7cf400.0302280308.5e8fffa3@posting.google.com... > "Peter Edwards" wrote in message news:... > > If it is grey and papery then it will be wasps and empty. If bees then you > > will see them on the combs. > > > > Incidentally, it is a wasps' nest and you can remove it reasonably intact > > (use a knife) then any local primary school will probably appreciate it for > > their 'nature table'. > > Good idea. So I can remove it with no fear that there's anything in > there that will hurt me?! I don't need to use anything to kill > anything that might be alive in there? > > Thanks, > TC Article 34050 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: gfdavis1@msn.com (gdavis) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: when to start feeding Date: 1 Mar 2003 12:43:09 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 8 Message-ID: <2ddfb488.0303011243.62065a5c@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.200.131.54 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1046551389 21763 127.0.0.1 (1 Mar 2003 20:43:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 Mar 2003 20:43:09 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34050 I live in southwest, va. I am a little concerned about stores on my bees. I purchesed some bee substitute. Is it to early to start feeding? Also when should I dust w/terramycin. I don't see any movement around 4 or so of my hives. The honey crop last year was only a third of the year before. Idid leave med super on each hive. GD Article 34051 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 15:15:21 -0600 From: doug houseman Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: No valid MI Beekeepers on Pollinators - Need Hive Organization: MCU, Ltd References: <2ddfb488.0303011243.62065a5c@posting.google.com> User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.2 (PPC Mac OS X) Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:15:20 -0500 Message-ID: Lines: 20 NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.40.48.85 X-Trace: sv3-8lc4WKciNPMrj9BRTCCehXIKKDDA6IPOFLZ+TTUnmMmso1hTvKMOCkHBrq2liT0lL+i6zsPHoumVktT!NuymbqPCPgxML391Fr7yVwNdszg3KQM29OVlBEXyfzLRccWqfsxpv0FBln3ajay7eMdkV9Fzywci!wN4DPsYSk+C6 X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!nntp1.phx1.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!newsfeed.news2me.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34051 Gentlepersons - Sorry for the interruption. I was told a year ago to try the Pollinators list for some one with a hive. I tried last spring and this winter to find a person with hives in SE Michigan. I looked at Pollinators again this morning and tried all the Michigan phone numbers. No luck. Does anyone know some one. I have a great place for bees. thank you in advance Doug Houseman 4233 Mario Ct Plymouth MI 48170 doug@msen.com Article 34052 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 4 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lazurus106@aol.com (Lazurus106) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 01 Mar 2003 21:41:05 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: No valid MI Beekeepers on Pollinators - Need Hive Message-ID: <20030301164105.07038.00000088@mb-cl.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!usenet01.sei.cmu.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m2.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34052 HI, Could you put up the pollinators lists addresse? Cheers, Dave in Madison,WI Article 34053 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: No valid MI Beekeepers on Pollinators - Need Hive Date: Sat, 01 Mar 2003 22:00:16 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 29 Message-ID: <3e612d3e.17973610@news1.radix.net> References: <2ddfb488.0303011243.62065a5c@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip190.sns.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!tdsnet-transit!newspeer.tds.net!newspeer.radix.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34053 On Sat, 01 Mar 2003 16:15:20 -0500, doug houseman wrote: >Gentlepersons - > >Sorry for the interruption. > >I was told a year ago to try the Pollinators list for some one with a >hive. I tried last spring and this winter to find a person with hives in >SE Michigan. > >I looked at Pollinators again this morning and tried all the Michigan >phone numbers. No luck. > >Does anyone know some one. I have a great place for bees. > >thank you in advance > >Doug Houseman >4233 Mario Ct >Plymouth MI 48170 > >doug@msen.com Call your state dept of Ag. Ask for the apiary inspection branch. They will know. beekeep Article 34054 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bees nest photo Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:22:38 -0000 Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: <1c7cf400.0302251051.64bf9d61@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.179.73 X-Trace: newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk 1046204663 3718 217.135.179.73 (25 Feb 2003 20:24:23 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Feb 2003 20:24:23 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.algonet.se!algonet!nntp.abs.net!news-FFM2.ecrc.net!newsswitch.lcs.mit.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!portal.gmu.edu!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.vt.edu!image.surnet.ru!news1.spb.su!newsfeed.stueberl.de!peernews3.colt.net!colt.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34054 Can you describe it? It is probably an old wasps' nest which will be made of a paper - either grey or brownish depending on the species - and it will be deserted . A bees' nest will consist of wax combs, more or less parallel and hanging from a support. It may or may not be occupied. -- Peter Edwards beekeepers@stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk "TC" wrote in message news:1c7cf400.0302251051.64bf9d61@posting.google.com... > Hi, > > I've found a nest in my attic; I think its a bees nest but can't find > a photo to verify. Am I right in thinking that there won't be any > insects in it - I live in the London, England so just come through a > winter. Should I leave it alone or doesn't it matter? The nest is > between joists that I want to board over so I suppose I can leave it > where it is. > > Thanks, > TC Article 34055 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: john.j.moore@att.net (John J. Moore) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bees imbedded in plastic Date: 2 Mar 2003 06:27:57 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 2 Message-ID: <77afb129.0303020627.787e3abb@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.91.32.121 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1046615278 5643 127.0.0.1 (2 Mar 2003 14:27:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Mar 2003 14:27:58 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34055 I'm looking to find out where you can buy bees that are imbedded in plastic Cubes. I would like to pass these around in the class room. Thanks Article 34056 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 10 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: beeman10@aol.com (Beeman10) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 02 Mar 2003 15:04:27 GMT References: <77afb129.0303020627.787e3abb@posting.google.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Bees imbedded in plastic Message-ID: <20030302100427.29847.00000063@mb-ml.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed3.newsreader.com!newsreader.com!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34056 Two biological supply companies ond one entomology supply company have them. You may need to look in their hard copy catalogs for the item number since the on line catalogs are not alway up to date. Ward's Natural Science http://www.wardsci.com/ Carolina Biological http://www.carolina.com/ Bioquip http://www.bioquip.com/ Article 34057 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 09:47:14 -0600 User-Agent: Microsoft-Outlook-Express-Macintosh-Edition/5.02.2106 Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 10:47:16 -0500 Subject: Patchouli Oil for Mites From: samuel garrett Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Message-ID: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit Lines: 6 NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.44.12.235 X-Trace: sv3-hSjtnSwC8jL6E5ZoBwUnhSRjSHMe/x5qVIgB78wj4aogrjI72W9zOA1Br7bs1QKK/Ml8x7vHTYQnD6B!pSLdmH5Bk+oDjBW6NIEY9t7axlaFqi8GMRE1ge0nrYUXf5i+s3fN+NXRQAGvaqM= X-Complaints-To: abuse@comcast.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@comcast.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!216.166.71.11!nntp2.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.comcast.com!news.comcast.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34057 Has anyone read about using patchouli oil as a treatment for mites? There is an interesting article on the web, any search engine - essential oils and honey bees - and this article comes up. It seems so effective, easy and safe. I wonder why no one is pursuing research on this? Any feed back would be appreciated. Article 34058 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "zoom" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Devon Bees Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 22:51:48 -0000 Lines: 27 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.161.142 X-Trace: news7.svr.pol.co.uk 1046645185 2887 217.135.161.142 (2 Mar 2003 22:46:25 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Mar 2003 22:46:25 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!peer1.news.newnet.co.uk!shale.ftech.net!news.ftech.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34058 Hey... thats weird, as we are just about to move to East Devon from Hampshire. Any club activity? Chris "john.ford4" wrote in message news:nlr7a.223$dY2.182@newsfep3-gui.server.ntli.net... > I am about to move to the East Devon area in the UK and would like to get in > contact with a local BKA. > > I would also appreciate any general advice on the area, as I am moving from > Nottingham. > > I have only two colonies, but hope to build up gradually over the coming > years! > > Many thanks in advance, > > John Ford > > Article 34059 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 20:02:04 -0600 From: "me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Honey Bottles Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 20:01:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Lines: 6 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.198.128.135 X-Trace: sv3-NdFfqQaI7wZU0nNrAL5yQ5WY2hRF+eh0DMzPd1QMTwo9U6bV8vBp5oWqu/zxbB3JMc7T6bPCu5RTrA1!7bXN+tloVR7Ifqhrtc4//YKiGiQPJ9th2XCV5hPsNbdyOBqbfSqAOOujGL85dajH+1FoXSQ= X-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!nntp1.phx1.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!newsfeed.news2me.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.crcom.net!news.crcom.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34059 I'm looking for plastic bottles I can use for honey. Does anyone know of a good supplier? Thanks West Texas Mark Article 34060 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 20:03:40 -0600 From: "me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Label Printing Companies Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 20:03:14 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Lines: 6 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.198.128.135 X-Trace: sv3-VuI7u22V7CXINKjGQWmjEE9cd39QWf1z1GmWBfF+Fb9iBrKufE36oSTansXKFKZktTofbLI+iUlMVkf!MgKYmpDCw5UH84wEgcuS7zf3jik2nMyOoGMUxjak0fe8Op28HH/jTDV1bh1bLXD+y+MUVy4= X-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.news2me.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.crcom.net!news.crcom.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34060 I'm looking for a company to print my honey labels at a reasonable price. Any suggestions? Thanks West Texas Mark Article 34061 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 20:22:03 -0600 Message-ID: <3E62D79F.6107614F@hcis.net> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 20:18:39 -0800 From: AL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey Bottles References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 14 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.240.93.50 X-Trace: sv3-GHiIiRcQqIjGNzpX07h7SwK+aW4FvJRmro9hrNk57DRBq2uivrk/LpAUE0l0T1B9RykdEmK/LIlmfZ3!rjR7TstS85HMeQs5BZOqfKzzGNU7AfKgUEfhVMI2TRKLS1/PoPnnvtrB8rSR9F4qUePjJw== X-Complaints-To: abuse@shawneelink.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@shawneelink.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!snoopy.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.news2me.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.shawneelink.net!news.shawneelink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34061 me wrote: > > I'm looking for plastic bottles I can use for honey. Does anyone know of a > good supplier? > > Thanks > West Texas Mark I've found good prices and service from Brushy Mountain http://www.beeequipment.com/ AL Article 34062 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jim Pickett" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Varroa threshold Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 21:27:37 -0600 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 8 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34062 I would like to know how many mites found after 24 hours of sticky board application would indicate a need for treatment with an acaricide? No acaracide has been applied in doing this count. -- Jim Pickett Article 34063 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Steve Huston" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: Varroa threshold Lines: 15 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.62.89.183 X-Complaints-To: abuse@attbi.com X-Trace: sccrnsc04 1046707885 24.62.89.183 (Mon, 03 Mar 2003 16:11:25 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 16:11:25 GMT Organization: AT&T Broadband Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 16:11:25 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi_feed4!attbi.com!sccrnsc04.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34063 "Jim Pickett" wrote in message news:v65ita5rdo0h80@corp.supernews.com... > I would like to know how many mites found after 24 hours of sticky board > application would indicate a need for treatment with an acaricide? No > acaracide has been applied in doing this count. Per an answer I received to this same question a couple years ago, 117. You didn't say where you are, but if you're up near 100 coming out of winter, I'd say treatment is necessary now. -Steve Massachusetts, US Article 34064 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: Billy Subject: Re: Varroa threshold X-Nntp-Posting-Host: rs498032.ks.boeing.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3E638E2B.E31AA164@NOSPAM.yahoo.com> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (Boeing NNTP News Access) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Dew of the Plains Apiaries X-Accept-Language: en References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 17:17:31 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; AIX 4.3) Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.tufts.edu!uunet!dca.uu.net!ash.uu.net!xyzzy!nntp Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34064 For a strong colony in two deeps - 50 mites over 24 hours. Billy Smart Rock, KS Jim Pickett wrote: > > I would like to know how many mites found after 24 hours of sticky board > application would indicate a need for treatment with an acaricide? No > acaracide has been applied in doing this count. > > -- > Jim Pickett Article 34065 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Mike Griggs Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Help digitize Rare Beekeeping books for on-line veiwing Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 13:23:42 -0500 Organization: Cornell University Lines: 89 Sender: mhg3@cornell.invalid (on www.ppru.cornell.edu) Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: www.ppru.cornell.edu X-Trace: news01.cit.cornell.edu 1046715826 14624 128.253.66.86 (3 Mar 2003 18:23:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news01.cit.cornell.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Mar 2003 18:23:46 GMT User-Agent: MT-NewsWatcher/3.3b1 (PPC Mac OS X) Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!lnsnews.lns.cornell.edu!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!mhg3 Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34065 Since the EAS 2002 conference that was held here at Cornell I have been working with the library to raise money to digitize rare books in the EF Phillips beekeeping library so they could be mounted on the WWW for beekeepers everywhere to read. If you are interested in this project please read the following & pass the word on to you state, local, o povincial assaociations. Once on-line they will be veiwable by all. If you have any questions or would like a printable version of the Flier send me e-mail off list. Mike 2002 President EAS President Finger Lakes Beekeepers Association -------------------------------------------------------------------- DIGITIZATION OF THE PHILLIPS BEEKEEPING COLLECTION Albert R. Mann Library, Cornell University An exciting opportunity exists for American beekeepers to help make spectacular volumes from the E. F. Phillips Beekeeping Collection at Cornell Universityıs Albert R. Mann Library available to the public via the World Wide Web. The Phillips Collection, inspired by Cornell professor E. Franklin Phillips, is a major repository of information on bees and beekeeping. It is one of the three major apiculture library collections in the United States and includes several thousand volumes, many published before 1900. The Phillips Collection features many volumes from the personal library of L.L. Langstroth, who popularized the moveable frame hive. Among these are Munnıs ³Description of the bar-and-frame hive² (1844), Millsı ³Essay on the management of bees² (1766), Gelieuıs ³Bee preserver² (1829) and Townleyıs ³Practical treatise on humanity to honey bees² (1848.) Although the collection was initiated by Phillips, funds for the libraryıs growth were supplied by beekeepers themselves with proceeds of designated hives going into the library endowment. These donations established an endowment that today continues to support new acquisitions of modern apicultural materials for the collection. In return, Phillips intended the library to be a storehouse of knowledge for the beekeeping community. Now, Mann Library hopes to harness the power of 21st century digital technology to make the Phillips collection more widely accessible to the general beekeeping and scholarly communities. The library hopes to scan some of the most important works from the Phillips collection over the next few years and make these volumes freely accessible over the Internet. Digitizing beekeeping books will cost approximately $200 per volume. Mann is accepting donations to cover these costs and help realize Phillipsı vision of providing beekeepers with a useful collection of historical information on the science and art of apiculture. The Eastern Apicultural Society (EAS) has offered to donate the first $200 for digitizing Langstrothıs ³The Hive and Honey Bee² and will further match 1:1 up to $1000 within 2 years. Mann has a proven record of success in digitizing historical materials, as evidenced by the Core Historical Literature of Agriculture (CHLA) at http://chla.library.cornell.edu This collection currently includes almost 850 volumes that can be browsed or searched by any person who has access to an internet-connected computer. The field of apiculture is not yet well represented in the CHLA collection, but as funding becomes available, Mann will be able to mount an initial selection of works and continue to add more books as funding allows. The project would include works in the English language, published prior to 1925, so that they would be in the public domain. As has been done in previous projects, Mann staff will work with leading scholars to identify the most significant books for inclusion. To make a donation to Mannıs Beekeeping Literature Online initiative, please fill out the form below and send it along with your gift to the address given. You will receive written acknowledgement of your contribution, and the support of the EAS will be recognized on Mannıs CHLA website. If you have any questions or for more information on the digitization of the Phillips Beekeeping Collection, please contact Janet McCue, Director of Mann Library, at (607) 255-2285 or jam7@cornell.edu. I wish to make a gift of $________________ to Mann Libraryıs Beekeeping Literature Online initiative. Name________________________________________________ Address____________________________________ City_______________________State & Zip___________ Please makes checks payable to Cornell University. Please return check and form to the Albert R. Mann Library, Cornell University, Ithaca, NY 14853-4301. Thank you very much for your support! Article 34066 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: albert.cannon@lineone.net (albert cannon) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Devon Bees Date: 3 Mar 2003 12:38:08 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 27 Message-ID: <4169b71c.0303031238.76c0bd78@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.225.108.238 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1046723888 21642 127.0.0.1 (3 Mar 2003 20:38:08 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Mar 2003 20:38:08 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34066 "zoom" wrote in message news:... > Hey... thats weird, as we are just about to move to East Devon from > Hampshire. > > Any club activity? > > Chris > > "> > I would also appreciate any general advice on the area, as I am moving > from > > Nottingham. > > > > I have only two colonies, but hope to build up gradually over the coming > > years! > > > > Many thanks in advance, > > > > John Ford > > > > try contacting any of these people. Gen Sec. DBKA Glyn Berrington, 17 chapel street, Bere Alston, Yelverton, tavistock. PL20 7DE. bee.glyn@virgin.net. tel.01822 840418. East Devon Branch. Sec. Chris Charlton,Corydon,Luppitt,Honiton,EX14 4RT. Article 34067 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: nucskep@yahoo.com (Nuc Skep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Patchouli Oil for Mites Date: 3 Mar 2003 13:36:52 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 18 Message-ID: <9936fa52.0303031336.57300e02@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.127.103.174 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1046727412 26516 127.0.0.1 (3 Mar 2003 21:36:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 Mar 2003 21:36:52 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34067 samuel garrett wrote in message news:... > Has anyone read about using patchouli oil as a treatment for mites? > There is an interesting article on the web, any search engine - essential > oils and honey bees - and this article comes up. It seems so effective, easy > and safe. I wonder why no one is pursuing research on this? Any feed back > would be appreciated. Don't forget the lava lamp and sitar music. (Sorry, I couldn't help it.) I know there have been past discussions here about essential oils. Searching the archives will fill you in. From what I recall, results were mixed at best. Not enough positive results to get me to buy in. Nuc. Article 34068 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 17:14:24 -0600 From: "csoderquist" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: Honey Bottles Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 16:14:26 -0700 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Lines: 11 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.233.218.25 X-Trace: sv3-c9Vhzo7MjvJMz7qkoI74tuirJRH0YtCtmqqs5RTQoyT2U/aoKnHEfsEnHozIx8pMTHhgimuCHj5ejmD!Kwt4kN6c33qd4EnAEcHwKCs+FaU8woRBirrlW2bCKhUyNsqEbktJ8TcUnJP8DDe0eTo4NX0Mpqzc!4zmVZQ4/1qBipUvWdzcXsxOkdycc0Aw81dp5 X-Complaints-To: abuse@wideopenwest.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@wideopenwest.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.wideopenwest.com!news.wideopenwest.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34068 Try http://www.sailorplastics.com/ "me" wrote in message news:vSydnetRyfUBKv-jXTWcpg@crcom.net... > I'm looking for plastic bottles I can use for honey. Does anyone know of a > good supplier? > > Thanks > West Texas Mark > Article 34069 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Angela and Keith Copi" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey Bottles Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 19:15:41 -0500 Lines: 16 Message-ID: References: X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVaeb8ulA00JSlaRTW/YX7JYecdHNtoWR7kFjnnLaSmkxQqNreaGyOu/ X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 Mar 2003 00:15:37 GMT X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Priority: 3 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34069 "me" wrote in message news:vSydnetRyfUBKv-jXTWcpg@crcom.net... > I'm looking for plastic bottles I can use for honey. Does anyone know of a > good supplier? > > Thanks > West Texas Mark Personallly I like Betterbee (www.betterbee.com) for both plastic bottles and labels, which they can custom print for you. Keith > Article 34070 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 20:34:24 -0600 From: "Dan & Sharon Keller" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: Patchouli Oil for Mites Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 21:34:43 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.241.142.153 X-Trace: sv3-fp2YDTvHLn5dCdWkFsArFSShqaMaS1rZvDv5WAbF4cmCmVDAr44XLGIXSV7Iq9Fiwr5QSGublKegEYk!Api9GJa7zdyyJbqOmu3pIJjmn+w3prSSMrmp+C8uPs2sXrmIKoQDe/iknvEqo4YQtiQByJbtapm1!6u2U X-Complaints-To: abuse@kconline.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@kconline.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator2-maxim!news-in.spamkiller.net!newsfeed.sjc.globix.net!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!151.164.30.35!cyclone.swbell.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.kconline.com!news.kconline.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34070 Since we raise peppermint I have used peppermint and mineral oil 1 part pepprmint oil to 9 parts mineral oil. When I open the hive I spritz the bees, they do not seem to like it very much. I have not lost a hive in serveral years Is it any more effective than other treatments? I don't know. dan "samuel garrett" wrote in message news:BA8791B4.69D8%sgarret131@comcast.net... > Has anyone read about using patchouli oil as a treatment for mites? > There is an interesting article on the web, any search engine - essential > oils and honey bees - and this article comes up. It seems so effective, easy > and safe. I wonder why no one is pursuing research on this? Any feed back > would be appreciated. > Article 34071 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: mudshark@hotmail.com (TC) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bees nest photo Date: 25 Feb 2003 10:52:00 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 11 Message-ID: <1c7cf400.0302251051.64bf9d61@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.80.112.170 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1046199120 6108 127.0.0.1 (25 Feb 2003 18:52:00 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 25 Feb 2003 18:52:00 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!news.umass.edu!news.ucr.edu!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!earthquake.efnet.com!efnet.com!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34071 Hi, I've found a nest in my attic; I think its a bees nest but can't find a photo to verify. Am I right in thinking that there won't be any insects in it - I live in the London, England so just come through a winter. Should I leave it alone or doesn't it matter? The nest is between joists that I want to board over so I suppose I can leave it where it is. Thanks, TC Article 34072 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: John Caldeira Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: How much honey can I expect? Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.92/32.572 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 17 Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 20:32:04 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.62.104.125 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 1046205124 4.62.104.125 (Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:32:04 PST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 12:32:04 PST Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!news.umass.edu!news.ucr.edu!headwall.stanford.edu!newsfeed.news2me.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!stamper.news.pas.earthlink.net!newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34072 "James Avila" wrote: >Can someone tell me how many pounds of honey I will extract from a fully >capped, medium super(6 5/8") that contains nine frames? A medium (6 5/8”) depth super will typically yield between 35 and 40 pounds, or 3 to 4 gallons. Actual yields vary due to how tight they are filled out by the bees, how well they are extracted, age of comb, as well has number of frames. Tips on harvesting honey: http://www.outdoorplace.org/beekeeping/extracting.htm John John Caldeira Dallas, Texas, USA http://www.outdoorplace.org/beekeeping Article 34073 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:37:36 -0600 Message-ID: <3E5BFD8E.94A10E47@hcis.net> Date: Tue, 25 Feb 2003 17:34:38 -0600 From: AL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bees nest photo References: <1c7cf400.0302251051.64bf9d61@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 35 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.240.93.149 X-Trace: sv3-zkQNCTCKtWGTX1Fcv87MKqHaOGZWq5Uf2Ed5ANWK2xVx+VaSgYcBE9x8bsVQesDLqKZkDTt5SPh568W!+lc0v/jfsF0NJ7TxVcgh1158bLHXEA/+OptGn5mQtAGS+GdVLHAnEyB+GrS8FLhPjw0XavE= X-Complaints-To: abuse@shawneelink.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@shawneelink.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!news.umass.edu!news.ucr.edu!newsfeed.media.kyoto-u.ac.jp!newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!border1.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.shawneelink.net!news.shawneelink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34073 Peter Edwards wrote: > "TC" wrote in message > > Hi, > > > > I've found a nest in my attic; I think its a bees nest but can't find > > a photo to verify. Am I right in thinking that there won't be any > > insects in it - I live in the London, England so just come through a > > winter. Should I leave it alone or doesn't it matter? The nest is > > between joists that I want to board over so I suppose I can leave it > > where it is. > > > > Thanks, > > TC > Can you describe it? > > It is probably an old wasps' nest which will be made of a paper - either > grey or brownish depending on the species - and it will be deserted . > > A bees' nest will consist of wax combs, more or less parallel and hanging > from a support. It may or may not be occupied. > -- > Peter Edwards > beekeepers@stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk Regardless of the bug that put it there, it should be removed before you board it up. AL Article 34074 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Marc Mendez" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Transform saccharose to glucose Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 17:55:26 +0100 Organization: Guest of France Telecom Oleane's newsreading service Lines: 12 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.167.236.180 X-Trace: s1.read.news.oleane.net 1046796644 14486 217.167.236.180 (4 Mar 2003 16:50:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@oleane.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 16:50:44 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!oleane.net!oleane!nnrp.oleane.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34074 Hi, My girlfiend's uncle can get saccharose at low price. He wonders how he could transform it to glucose to feed bees during Winter. Normally, it can be done using an enzym called "Invertase", but unfortunately, no accurate infos about the process ! Any info ? Thanks ! Article 34075 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Ricia and Michael Banther" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <9936fa52.0303031336.57300e02@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Patchouli Oil for Mites Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 22:03:51 -0000 Lines: 32 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 NNTP-Posting-Host: 213.78.81.48 Message-ID: <3e65139e@212.67.96.135> X-Trace: 4 Mar 2003 20:59:10 GMT, 213.78.81.48 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!nntp1.phx1.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!nntp.gblx.net!212.67.96.135!213.78.81.48 Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34075 "Nuc Skep" wrote in message news:9936fa52.0303031336.57300e02@posting.google.com... > samuel garrett wrote in message news:... > > Has anyone read about using patchouli oil as a treatment for mites? > > There is an interesting article on the web, any search engine - essential > > oils and honey bees - and this article comes up. It seems so effective, easy > > and safe. I wonder why no one is pursuing research on this? Any feed back > > would be appreciated. > > Don't forget the lava lamp and sitar music. > > (Sorry, I couldn't help it.) > > > > I know there have been past discussions here about essential oils. > Searching the archives will fill you in. From what I recall, results > were mixed at best. Not enough positive results to get me to buy in. > > Nuc. Interesting idea though. My wife has long used patchouli to protect fabric in storage from the moths that will eat through it. Michael Banther Article 34076 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Steve Hagerty" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Permacomb foundation???? Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:32:29 -0600 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 14 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-442.newsdawg.com X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews2 Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34076 Has anyone ever tried to use the permacomb foundation? It's a one piece fully drawn out plastic comb.... Do the bees like this? What about warpage? I took on a loss this year on my bees over the winter.... but we had a warm spell, and I'm feeding away. I hope everyone else is doing better.... Can't wait for spring!!!!! Steve --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/03 Article 34077 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Steve Hagerty" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Requirements for honey processing anyone? Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:33:04 -0600 Organization: http://extra.newsguy.com Lines: 19 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: p-483.newsdawg.com X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!pln-w!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews2 Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34077 Hello all! I'm planning on building a honey house this spring to house my exctractor and so forth. Does anyone know what the FDA or Dept. of Agriculture requires you to have in it? Someone told me three sinks and must be clean... food grade grease... but is there a guideline? I tried searching FDA but didn't have any luck. I figure if I'm building it, would like to accomidate them as well as me in the process... Hope everyone's bees are doing great. Steve --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/03 Article 34078 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: X-Trace-PostClient-IP: 24.65.177.105 From: bjms Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Requirements for honey processing anyone? Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 28 Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 05:32:29 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.64.223.206 X-Complaints-To: abuse@shaw.ca X-Trace: news1.calgary.shaw.ca 1046842349 24.64.223.206 (Tue, 04 Mar 2003 22:32:29 MST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 22:32:29 MST Organization: Shaw Residential Internet Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!cyclone.bc.net!sjc70.webusenet.com!news.webusenet.com!pd2nf1so.cg.shawcable.net!residential.shaw.ca!news1.calgary.shaw.ca.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34078 If you are Canadian, you might try this site EH. http://laws.justice.gc.ca/en/C-0.4/C.R.C.-c.287/index.html Brian On Tue, 4 Mar 2003 18:33:04 -0600, "Steve Hagerty" wrote: >Hello all! >I'm planning on building a honey house this spring to house my exctractor >and so forth. Does anyone know what the FDA or Dept. of Agriculture >requires you to have in it? Someone told me three sinks and must be >clean... food grade grease... but is there a guideline? I tried searching >FDA but didn't have any luck. I figure if I'm building it, would like to >accomidate them as well as me in the process... Hope everyone's bees are >doing great. >Steve > > > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.459 / Virus Database: 258 - Release Date: 2/25/03 > Article 34079 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "David Eyre" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re. Apitherapy. Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:55:43 -0500 Organization: The Bee Works Message-ID: Reply-To: "David Eyre" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 18 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34079 I have need of information, please. Anyone with practical experience using apitherapy for the treatment of fibramyalga, please contact me. Off line, please. Without being rude, I do not need loads of URL's and other information. I have done all the research, all I now need is practical information for this specific case. Regards Dave....-- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ David Eyre The Bee Works, 5 Edith Drive, RR#2, Orillia. ON. L3V 6H2 705-326-7171 www.beeworks.com admin@beeworks.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Article 34080 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Winnie" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Help - hundreds of bees round house Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:44:23 +1300 Organization: Ihug Limited Lines: 18 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 203-173-200-226.nzwide.ihug.co.nz X-Trace: lust.ihug.co.nz 1046925865 31522 203.173.200.226 (6 Mar 2003 04:44:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ihug.co.nz NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 04:44:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!aanews.merit.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!xmission!news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator2-maxim!news-in.spamkiller.net!propagator3-maxim!news-in.superfeed.net!newsfeed01.tsnz.net!newsfeeds.ihug.co.nz!lust.ihug.co.nz!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34080 Hi. We live a few hundred metres from an apiary and on some days we get thousands of bees zooming very quickly around our house, with no apparent purpose. They don't seem to be getting inside but of course we have to keep doors and windows tight shut; no fun as it's late summer here. I've been religiously avoiding anything that makes a sweet smell, but still they bombard us. What's up with the flaming things, and what's in it for them? They seem quite aggressive in that if you make a noise or go to the window they come clustering around you, and I daren't go outside as they just bombard your face. Obviously we're going to move but in the meantime is there anything that acts as a bee repellent? I don't want to have to start killing next door's stock, especially as he's our landlord.... TIA for any suggestions. Help??? Winnie PS The dog got stung so now I'm really p*ssed off. Article 34081 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Help - hundreds of bees round house Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 07:41:20 -0000 Lines: 41 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.139.131 X-Trace: newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk 1046936491 5532 217.135.139.131 (6 Mar 2003 07:41:31 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Mar 2003 07:41:31 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!colt.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34081 Have you talked to the owner? Could be bees preparing to swarm and sending out scouts to look for a new home, but they are not usually aggressive. Another possibility is that if the weather is very hot and dry they may be looking for water; if so, the beekeeper could provide this to solve the problem. Are they really aggressive or are there just a large number? How many times have you been stung (I would not count the dog - not being unkind, but dogs often snap at bees and then get stung). I would not keep the doors and windows shut as bees do not usually come indoors - and if they do then open windows will allow them to get back out. -- Peter Edwards beekeepers@stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk "Winnie" wrote in message news:b46jn8$up2$1@lust.ihug.co.nz... > Hi. We live a few hundred metres from an apiary and on some days we get > thousands of bees zooming very quickly around our house, with no apparent > purpose. They don't seem to be getting inside but of course we have to keep > doors and windows tight shut; no fun as it's late summer here. I've been > religiously avoiding anything that makes a sweet smell, but still they > bombard us. What's up with the flaming things, and what's in it for them? > They seem quite aggressive in that if you make a noise or go to the window > they come clustering around you, and I daren't go outside as they just > bombard your face. Obviously we're going to move but in the meantime is > there anything that acts as a bee repellent? I don't want to have to start > killing next door's stock, especially as he's our landlord.... > > TIA for any suggestions. Help??? > Winnie > > PS The dog got stung so now I'm really p*ssed off. > > Article 34082 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Winnie" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Help - hundreds of bees round house Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 21:26:35 +1300 Organization: Ihug Limited Lines: 45 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 203-173-201-56.nzwide.ihug.co.nz X-Trace: lust.ihug.co.nz 1046939197 16793 203.173.201.56 (6 Mar 2003 08:26:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ihug.co.nz NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 08:26:37 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!nntp-relay.ihug.net!newsfeeds.ihug.co.nz!lust.ihug.co.nz!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34082 "Peter Edwards" wrote in message news:b46u3b$5cs$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk... > Have you talked to the owner? Yep, he just says that they won't sting me, and so far he's right but then I haven't given them much of a chance. They *act* in what seems to me an aggressive manner, zooming very fast directly at my head and face, but for all I know they're trying to say Hi. I just know I do not like it one bit :o| > > Could be bees preparing to swarm and sending out scouts to look for a new > home, but they are not usually aggressive. Another possibility is that if > the weather is very hot and dry they may be looking for water; if so, the > beekeeper could provide this to solve the problem. Aha, thanks, I wonder if the stream has dried up? Although it poured it down yesterday so I wouldn't have thought so. Is it at all possible they're looking for food? Sweet smells such as baking definitely attract them, so I've had to stop that. > > Are they really aggressive or are there just a large number? How many times > have you been stung (I would not count the dog - not being unkind, but dogs > often snap at bees and then get stung). Large number, literally hundreds, and they *seem* aggressive but only the dog has been stung - I think they must have been buzzing all over his bed and he lay on them. > > I would not keep the doors and windows shut as bees do not usually come > indoors - and if they do then open windows will allow them to get back out. Oh, they come indoors all right! The first time this happened the kitchen was full of them and the beekeeper had to shoo them all out for me. I do big scary animals, heights, speed, you name it but I don't do bees! Winnie Article 34083 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 07:28:01 -0600 From: "me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: Help - hundreds of bees round house Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 07:27:38 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: <786cnWkjwrF_0fqjXTWcoQ@crcom.net> Lines: 39 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.198.128.13 X-Trace: sv3-FUCTpWjsrXWINNMTsspRpebYlePG9jZeWJX85UgB2hhkpQovIMb7Xu8r0gVFMaLUf2hTZ27frgSyhsa!TZCMgAai6atxbeNioJl4JWAFzi/Ok/3QmEbfg+Ei/lnb7/QClmINv4tkahk/l9XDxCGnvA== X-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!199.45.49.37!cyclone1.gnilink.net!central.cox.net!cox.net!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.crcom.net!news.crcom.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34083 Hi Winnie, I think your problem is that some bees have taken up residence near or within the structure of your house - not inside. The numbers you describe are too many, even if the apiary is next door - unless the hives next door are something like 20 feet away. The other tip off is that they are going after your face, and I'm not just talking about buzzing around your head. Bees don't do that unless they are giving you a warning that you're too close to their hive. One other tip off is "head butting". Often, bees will come at you at high speed and actually run into you by "head butting", but won't sting. This behavior is the very first sign you're too close to their hive. If you don't leave the area, this will progress to stinging. Okay, now lets say that the bees ARE from the apiary next door. You might just be in their flight path. This is easy to fix. If there is a solid, high fence that the bees must go over to go in your direction, then the bees will go over the fence and stay at that height for some distance before coming down to a lower level. In other words, they will fly well above your head and leave you alone. Of course, if they are hungry or thirsty and you have what they need, that's a different story. Your neighbor is correct. If the bees are just there because you have something for them to eat or drink, or just in their flight path, they won't sting. But the business about going after your face tells me that you are too close to a hive. Look around and see if you can see bees going in and out under the eves of the house or possible under it. Also look around for some other place that they may have made a home - a shed, large pipe, pile of wood, hollow tree, attic vent, etc... Your best bet on solving the problem is to do some observation. You might borrow a bee veil to put over your head just to make you more comfortable while observing - no need to zip it around the bottom. As you have already noticed, the bees go after the face and hair. You shouldn't have any worries about stings on the rest of your body unless you actually disturb the hive, and then it's not likely. Who knows, after you learn some more about bee behavior, you might take up beekeeping. It really is a good hobby. Hope this helps. West Texas Mark Article 34085 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Winnie" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Help - hundreds of bees round house Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 05:38:21 +1300 Organization: Ihug Limited Lines: 84 Message-ID: References: <786cnWkjwrF_0fqjXTWcoQ@crcom.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203-173-202-81.nzwide.ihug.co.nz X-Trace: lust.ihug.co.nz 1046968702 10626 203.173.202.81 (6 Mar 2003 16:38:22 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ihug.co.nz NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 16:38:22 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!aanews.merit.edu!gumby.it.wmich.edu!out.nntp.be!propagator2-SanJose!in.nntp.be!newsfeed01.tsnz.net!news!newsfeeds.ihug.co.nz!lust.ihug.co.nz!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34085 "me" wrote in message news:786cnWkjwrF_0fqjXTWcoQ@crcom.net... > Hi Winnie, > > I think your problem is that some bees have taken up residence near or > within the structure of your house - not inside. The numbers you describe > are too many, even if the apiary is next door - unless the hives next door > are something like 20 feet away. The other tip off is that they are going > after your face, and I'm not just talking about buzzing around your head. > Bees don't do that unless they are giving you a warning that you're too > close to their hive. One other tip off is "head butting". Often, bees will > come at you at high speed and actually run into you by "head butting", but > won't sting. This behavior is the very first sign you're too close to their > hive. If you don't leave the area, this will progress to stinging. Thanks Mark! They do indeed "head butt"; I was assuming this was accidental as they are flying so fast. Fascinating. I've tried to see if they're entering the house but can't see it, but then I haven't been brave enough to stand outside and observe on a really busy day and see where they're going. I suppose they could be in the roof or floor cavity but wouldn't we hear them buzzing? It's very quiet here. The hives are a good few hundred metres away. Unless of course some have been put nearer and I haven't noticed; we're surrounded by pasture so that's a possibility. I'll have a look later. > > Okay, now lets say that the bees ARE from the apiary next door. You might > just be in their flight path. This is easy to fix. If there is a solid, > high fence that the bees must go over to go in your direction, then the bees > will go over the fence and stay at that height for some distance before > coming down to a lower level. In other words, they will fly well above your > head and leave you alone. Of course, if they are hungry or thirsty and you > have what they need, that's a different story. No fences as such, just a few trees. The bees don't seem to be going anywhere, they just congregate and then seem to buzz around randomly. > > Your neighbor is correct. If the bees are just there because you have > something for them to eat or drink, or just in their flight path, they won't > sting. But the business about going after your face tells me that you are > too close to a hive. Look around and see if you can see bees going in and > out under the eves of the house or possible under it. Also look around for > some other place that they may have made a home - a shed, large pipe, pile > of wood, hollow tree, attic vent, etc... Your best bet on solving the > problem is to do some observation. You might borrow a bee veil to put over > your head just to make you more comfortable while observing - no need to zip > it around the bottom. As you have already noticed, the bees go after the > face and hair. I'll do that, or at least try! Thanks for the suggestions about where they might be living. At times like this a remote control webcam would be useful :o) > You shouldn't have any worries about stings on the rest of > your body unless you actually disturb the hive, and then it's not likely. > Who knows, after you learn some more about bee behavior, you might take up > beekeeping. It really is a good hobby. Might need a few stiff drinks first! It's not so much being stung that scares me, it's the noise when they buzz around your face which makes me cringe, silly I know. > > Hope this helps. > West Texas Mark > It helps heaps, thanks Mark. Cheers Winnie Article 34086 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: paul_bilodeau1@excite.com (Paul Bilodeau) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Requirements for honey processing anyone? Date: 6 Mar 2003 09:23:25 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.186.164.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1046971405 25504 127.0.0.1 (6 Mar 2003 17:23:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Mar 2003 17:23:25 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34086 Hi Steve, I thought that I might add my 2 cents worth... I have checked into this topic and have found that there a a few places where you can get the info. that you are looking for. First, check with your State Bee Inspector, they are a great source of all kinds of knowledge - particularly regarding your state and specific location. Second, check with your local Cooperative Extension, they usually have a few publications that may cover your local home food production laws. Third, run an internet search for "Home Food Production Laws", this will probably turn up many responses. Fourth, ask another beekeeper in your area what they had to do. Fifth, contact anyone that runs a home based catering service, they will have had to have met the same criteria for their license. Typically here in Maine, I have been told that the inspector will be looking for a stainless steel sink (1 not 3), water quality, hot water temperature, and types of materials used in construction such as: 1. non-porous floor surface, easily cleaned without bacteria build-up (sheet vinyl instead of bare concrete), 2. non-porous counter surfaces, (formica instead of bare wood), 3. you may also have to agree to a certain cleaning schedule and agree to use a bleach/water solution to insure sanitary conditions. Here in Maine, the inspection is done once (unless there are reported problems), and then you have to pay a yearly fee to stay current. You also need a sellers license. Hope this helps, Article 34087 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 10 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: lazurus106@aol.com (Lazurus106) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 06 Mar 2003 20:00:24 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Help - hundreds of bees round house Message-ID: <20030306150024.27402.00000006@mb-fd.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!aanews.merit.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!lnsnews.lns.cornell.edu!newsstand.cit.cornell.edu!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m2.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34087 Hi All, You have told the landlord /beekeeper yes?He's your best resouce if its any of the above. He will be interested and want to take a look, Also it might be a way to get a chance to learn a bit of beekeeping yourself. Don't worry about the dog they usually have a pretty quick learning curve. I have a pair one a black shaggy beast (read bear like) that the bee's really dislike and a golden retriver they ignore as long as he isn't bumping up against the hives. Cheers, Dave in Madison,WI USA Article 34088 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Help - hundreds of bees round house Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:32:40 -0000 Lines: 67 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.222.248 X-Trace: newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk 1046982778 6829 217.135.222.248 (6 Mar 2003 20:32:58 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 6 Mar 2003 20:32:58 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!colt.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34088 Difficult to advise further without actually seeing what is going on. Might be an idea to get a second opinion from another beekeeper - if you can find one who is not a friend of your landlord! Seems unlikely that you will be stung - unless you happen to trap or squash a bee accidentally. Hope that helps! -- Peter Edwards beekeepers@stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk "Winnie" wrote in message news:b470ns$gcp$1@lust.ihug.co.nz... > > "Peter Edwards" wrote in > message news:b46u3b$5cs$1@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk... > > Have you talked to the owner? > > Yep, he just says that they won't sting me, and so far he's right but then I > haven't given them much of a chance. They *act* in what seems to me an > aggressive manner, zooming very fast directly at my head and face, but for > all I know they're trying to say Hi. I just know I do not like it one bit > :o| > > > > > Could be bees preparing to swarm and sending out scouts to look for a new > > home, but they are not usually aggressive. Another possibility is that if > > the weather is very hot and dry they may be looking for water; if so, the > > beekeeper could provide this to solve the problem. > > Aha, thanks, I wonder if the stream has dried up? Although it poured it down > yesterday so I wouldn't have thought so. Is it at all possible they're > looking for food? Sweet smells such as baking definitely attract them, so > I've had to stop that. > > > > > Are they really aggressive or are there just a large number? How many > times > > have you been stung (I would not count the dog - not being unkind, but > dogs > > often snap at bees and then get stung). > > Large number, literally hundreds, and they *seem* aggressive but only the > dog has been stung - I think they must have been buzzing all over his bed > and he lay on them. > > > > > I would not keep the doors and windows shut as bees do not usually come > > indoors - and if they do then open windows will allow them to get back > out. > > Oh, they come indoors all right! The first time this happened the kitchen > was full of them and the beekeeper had to shoo them all out for me. I do big > scary animals, heights, speed, you name it but I don't do bees! > > Winnie > > Article 34089 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Winnie" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Help - hundreds of bees round house Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 09:55:33 +1300 Organization: Ihug Limited Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <20030306150024.27402.00000006@mb-fd.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 203-173-203-7.nzwide.ihug.co.nz X-Trace: lust.ihug.co.nz 1046984134 6318 203.173.203.7 (6 Mar 2003 20:55:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@ihug.co.nz NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 20:55:34 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!news.xtra.co.nz!newsfeeds.ihug.co.nz!lust.ihug.co.nz!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34089 "Lazurus106" wrote in message news:20030306150024.27402.00000006@mb-fd.aol.com... > Hi All, > You have told the landlord /beekeeper yes?He's your best resouce if its any of > the above. He will be interested and want to take a look, He seems pretty unconcerned; I told him the first time it happened and he said they were probably just hungry. > Also it might be a > way to get a chance to learn a bit of beekeeping yourself. Not my forte I'm afraid, I'm sticking with two and four legged stock. > Don't worry about the dog they usually have a pretty quick learning curve. I > have a pair one a black shaggy beast (read bear like) that the bee's really > dislike and a golden retriver they ignore as long as he isn't bumping up > against the hives. > Cheers, > Dave in Madison,WI USA Cool. It's just given ours one more thing to be paranoid about..... Thanks! Winnie Article 34090 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Rodney Isom" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: How to tell when nectar flow is on? Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 19:24:54 -0600 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 17 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!freenix!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-04!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34090 Hi, Here's a question from a relatively new beekeeper: How can I tell when a nectar flow has started & stopped? I'm not very savvy about the local nectar-producing vegetation, although I'm trying to learn, but is there some way to tell from observing the hive what the current nectar supply is like? Thanks, Rodney ****************** Rodney Isom North Alabama rodneyi@xyz.hiwaay.net (remove 'xyz' to reply) Article 34091 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Just for fun! Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:27:42 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 36 Message-ID: <3e68903d$0$42657$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.215.97.74 X-Trace: 1047040061 dread11.news.tele.dk 42657 195.215.97.74 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34091 I have put up a palm demo with my latest palm software installed. http://apimo.dk/programs/palmdemo.zip The real software is now fixed concerning the barcode support. I had to get hand of a STP1550 palm Os based scanner to fix this. Sorry. If you have a Palm OS powered barcode scanner then the Bidata and the included palm software will work together. You will have to do the following: erase the palm bidata from handheld/scanner install the handheld software from within Bidata filter or search the data/hives you will transfer to the Palm. Check the prepare for palm checkbox. print out the barcodes. It will also generate the barcode text needed for the scanner.make a hotsync with bidata running. The data selected by filtring or searching is now transfered to the palm/scanner. If you use the Palm then let the stylus remain at home instead of use a used up roller pen. Place your palm on a wooden plate with bur tape. You can also place a note block on the plate in same way. You can extra stapple on a plastic sheet to fold over when not in use. -- Best regards Jorn Johanesson visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software and other beekeeping stuff. Article 34092 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 06:58:07 -0600 From: "me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: How to tell when nectar flow is on? Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 06:57:45 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Lines: 36 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.198.128.111 X-Trace: sv3-YUC6SzEhusKsy9XMqRyOUj4/xJOO8AXIBtLHZxXwe4fUVJbUFe/jrhWQCu8TPdXscloIhc0pCxUM9QM!eWb2qWjEURPkuvVuUMrGXw1GNm57rjvNALgiPfYxogfCUOUxea5EicQgxBhSKf6GYEpIv/I= X-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!news.umass.edu!micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator2-sterling!news-in-sterling.newsfeed.com!news-in.nuthinbutnews.com!cyclone1.gnilink.net!ngpeer.news.aol.com!nntp2.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.crcom.net!news.crcom.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34092 Here are a couple of ways to tell if a nectar flow is on. First look at the entrance of the hives. If the bees are coming in and out "with a purpose" and some are carrying pollen on there legs, then a nectar flow is likely. If the bees come up to the entrance and hesitate or hover a while before landing and entering, then the hive is likely being robbed. A second sign is to put some honey, not a lot, out in the bee yard. If they virtually ignore it, then that means they are finding their preferred food, nectar somewhere near by. You can also put some sugar water out. They will go after the sugar water more readily, but if there's a GOOD nectar flow on, they will ignore the sugar water too. There are other clues, but there are easy. West Texas Mark "Rodney Isom" wrote in message news:v6ft6qc68jgjb4@corp.supernews.com... Hi, Here's a question from a relatively new beekeeper: How can I tell when a nectar flow has started & stopped? I'm not very savvy about the local nectar-producing vegetation, although I'm trying to learn, but is there some way to tell from observing the hive what the current nectar supply is like? Thanks, Rodney ****************** Rodney Isom North Alabama rodneyi@xyz.hiwaay.net (remove 'xyz' to reply) Article 34093 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: How to tell when nectar flow is on? Date: 7 Mar 2003 07:29:35 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 18 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0303070729.25217102@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.15.89 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047050976 11141 127.0.0.1 (7 Mar 2003 15:29:36 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 7 Mar 2003 15:29:36 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!128.230.129.106!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-xit-09!supernews.com!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34093 "Rodney Isom" wrote in message news:... > Hi, > > Here's a question from a relatively new beekeeper: How can I tell when a > nectar flow has started & stopped? I'm not very savvy about the local > nectar-producing vegetation, although I'm trying to learn, but is there some > way to tell from observing the hive what the current nectar supply is like? > > Lots of hive activity Bees are relatively gentle New white wax is formed on inner cover Lots of uncapped nectar/honey YOU can SMELL the nectar being ripened New white wax on the inner cover means you missed a part of the flow and should have supered sooner. Article 34094 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "huestis'" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3e56a33d@212.67.96.135> Subject: Re: Rendering wax Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:27:40 -0800 Lines: 19 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.23.5.17 Message-ID: <3e68d7db_4@corp.newsgroups.com> X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1047058395 209.23.5.17 (7 Mar 2003 11:33:15 -0600) X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!! X-Report: Please report illegal or inappropriate use to X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, INCLUDING the body (DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 100,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!news-out.newsfeeds.com!l2!corp.newsgroups.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34094 Hi, . I've never > tried it and I'd like to know how you get the dirty crap to separate from > the wax. Does it rise to the top as dross? Also, how do you deal with the > grunge left in the melting pot? reply: I use a 15 gallon drum w/ immersion heater. Toss 5 to seven frames in at around 190 F flip in two minutes and the wax melts right out. The slum and wax is scooped out and run through double cones that I have rigged up to strain. Clay -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Article 34095 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 7 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: ooffy@aol.com (Ooffy) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 08 Mar 2003 23:45:07 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Requirements for honey processing anyone? Message-ID: <20030308184507.18868.00000048@mb-ci.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!usenet01.sei.cmu.edu!news.cis.ohio-state.edu!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m2.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34095 The Federal Government has no regualtions on honey processing, this is handled by either your State agency incharge of Food and Safety (here in Oregon, it is part of the Dept. of Agriculture), or your county if the state has no regulations. Ron Bennett Luckiamute Bee Article 34096 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey Bottles Date: 9 Mar 2003 11:48:16 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 10 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0303090826.3803b034@posting.google.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.31.150 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047239298 32473 127.0.0.1 (9 Mar 2003 19:48:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 Mar 2003 19:48:18 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34096 "me" wrote in message news:... > I'm looking for plastic bottles I can use for honey. Does anyone know of a > good supplier? > > Thanks > West Texas Mark Betterbee has econmy bottles with either flip top or spout type closures. The hold a pint or about 1.5lbs of honey. Roughly 15 cents each. Article 34097 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "allen" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: EU OTC Residue Comments Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 12:31:38 -0700 Organization: honeybeeworld point com Lines: 35 Message-ID: Reply-To: "allen" NNTP-Posting-Host: dialin-184-53.calgary.primus.ca (209.90.184.53) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1047324701 66773710 209.90.184.53 (16 [58605]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!dialin-184-53.calgary.primus.CA!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34097 Peter Dillon in France sent me a letter indicating that -- in light of the new ultra-sensitive tests available -- a packer in the EU has been examining honey for OTC residues and concluded that spring treatments can cause unacceptable levels in honey. Beekeepers are proposing an MRL of 15ppb (Yup, that's *B*illion -- an US billion, I trust). A few years ago we were thinking in terms of parts per *M*illion, but now we are looking 1000X more closely. The letter and more info are in my diary at http://www.honeybeeworld.com/diary/ . If you are looking for it, go back one page and look at the bottom. For anyone interested, diary topics since March 1 include the following: * Patty feeding * AFB detection by honey sampling * OTC residue concerns in the EU * Canada bee importations * Tracheal detection * The positive side of the bio-terrorism scare * Honeybeeworld forum * Selling bees and hives * A great free online virus scan * Apache2 and Perl After 8 years or so on the web, I've recently moved my site from internode.net to honeybeeworld.com, so for any who have bookmarked my sites, please update your links. Thanks. allen http://www.honeybeeworld.com Article 34098 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: d9smith@mail.localnet.com (David Smith) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: WHAT IS RACISM? Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 22:52:31 -0000 Organization: Information Unlimited Message-ID: References: <25ca63b6.0211172319.2c6c9d3d@posting.google.com> <2BgC9.831102$v53.31088279@news3.calgary.shaw.ca> <3ByQdsAnas29Ew78@denrosa.demon.co.uk> <993fd181.0211200842.3f216771@posting.google.com> X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 7 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!ppp619.tc-1.syr-ch.ny.localnet.com!user Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34098 In article <993fd181.0211200842.3f216771@posting.google.com>, loggermike@shasta.com (Mike) wrote: He may have some valid points, but . . . it should not have been on beekeeping. David Smith Article 34099 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: d9smith@mail.localnet.com (David Smith) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey recipies! Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 23:00:46 -0000 Organization: Information Unlimited Message-ID: References: X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Lines: 7 Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news-feed.riddles.org.uk!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!ppp619.tc-1.syr-ch.ny.localnet.com!user Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34099 In article , "Wuffman" wrote: Peel cloves of garlic, cover with honey. This slow because honey moves slowy. Wait until garlic softens up. Seperate the cloves and garlic. A teaspoon can be a home made antisore throat treatment, or the begining of a great glaze. Article 34100 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Lines: 62 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: bobpursley@aol.com (Bob Pursley) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 11 Mar 2003 00:29:19 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Virus warning in email on beekeeping group Message-ID: <20030310192919.17823.00000152@mb-fe.aol.com> Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!wn12feed!wn14feed!worldnet.att.net!64.12.151.226!ngpeer.news.aol.com!audrey-m1.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34100 In the last two days, I have received email ( A very new website) that contained virus in the attachements. One mail was purported to be from adam finkelstein, the other from Barry. Here are the mail tracings on each: Return-Path: Received: from rly-za01.mx.aol.com (rly-za01.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.97]) by air-za03.mail.aol.com (v92.17) with ESMTP id MAILINZA32-22753e6d126a3a4; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:32:11 -0500 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.22]) by rly-za01.mx.aol.com (v92.16) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINZA12-2dc3e6d125318b; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:31:47 -0500 Received: from asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.145]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.05 (built Nov 6 2002)) with ESMTP id <0HBK00FHJ16V2I@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for bobpursley@aol.com; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:30:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h2AMU1ct003354 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:30:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from [67.80.125.130] by asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (bmifilter); Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:25:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:30:23 -0500 (EST) From: adamf Subject: A very new website To: bobpursley@aol.com Message-id: <200303102230.h2AMU1ct003354@asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_QE1SsfuPQ/Cf4TTheAfd/Q)" X-BLTSYMAVREINSERT: 0P8cETJt5j4fGYJN+snWS0hqeowA and the other Return-Path: Received: from rly-za01.mx.aol.com (rly-za01.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.97]) by air-za03.mail.aol.com (v92.17) with ESMTP id MAILINZA32-22753e6d126a3a4; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:32:11 -0500 Received: from mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.22]) by rly-za01.mx.aol.com (v92.16) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINZA12-2dc3e6d125318b; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:31:47 -0500 Received: from asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net [167.206.5.145]) by mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.05 (built Nov 6 2002)) with ESMTP id <0HBK00FHJ16V2I@mta7.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> for bobpursley@aol.com; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:30:31 -0500 (EST) Received: from asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (8.12.6/8.12.5) with ESMTP id h2AMU1ct003354 for ; Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:30:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from [67.80.125.130] by asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net (bmifilter); Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:25:29 -0500 (EST) Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 17:30:23 -0500 (EST) From: adamf Subject: A very new website To: bobpursley@aol.com Message-id: <200303102230.h2AMU1ct003354@asv11.srv.hcvlny.cv.net> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Boundary_(ID_QE1SsfuPQ/Cf4TTheAfd/Q)" X-BLTSYMAVREINSERT: 0P8cETJt5j4fGYJN+snWS0hqeowA Be forewarned, and thank goodness for virus screeners. Bob Pursley Article 34101 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: Barry Birkey Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Virus warning in email on beekeeping group Date: Mon, 10 Mar 2003 20:41:48 -0600 Lines: 23 Message-ID: References: <20030310192919.17823.00000152@mb-fe.aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZUojWa5oEqAjdAoBUZl7QjZfW/ihNq2aQnGVM5BjlzMlfqSteNtZId X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 11 Mar 2003 02:41:25 GMT User-Agent: Microsoft Outlook Express Macintosh Edition - 5.0 (1513) Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34101 > From: bobpursley@aol.com (Bob Pursley) > Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com > Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping > Date: 11 Mar 2003 00:29:19 GMT > Subject: Virus warning in email on beekeeping group > > In the last two days, I have received email ( A very new website) that > contained virus in the attachements. One mail was purported to be from adam > finkelstein, the other from Barry. Here are the mail tracings on each: > Be forewarned, and thank goodness for virus screeners. > Bob Pursley Virus warnings lack significance in my opinion. If you're going to be active on the internet, you're going to be dealing with viruses, hoaxes, worms and a lot of opinions. I receive viruses all the time from others. I'd be posting a warning everyday if I did the same. Just because you got something from Adam and myself doesn't mean we were the originators of such mail. Anyway, screen away! Regards, Barry Article 34102 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Alias error Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 10:52:54 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 13 Message-ID: <3e6db1df$0$42665$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.249.242.52 X-Trace: 1047376352 dread11.news.tele.dk 42665 195.249.242.52 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fr.usenet-edu.net!usenet-edu.net!news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34102 If you get an alias error in my software then install the Palm support. Sorry I was unaware of this error because I of course have this installed. Then the software will run without getting to this error. -- Best regards Jorn Johanesson visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software and other beekeeping stuff. Article 34103 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3e6db1df$0$42665$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk> Subject: Re: Alias error Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 11:36:58 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 21 Message-ID: <3e6dbc5a$0$31977$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.215.97.103 X-Trace: 1047379034 dread12.news.tele.dk 31977 195.215.97.103 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.vmunix.org!newsfeed.hanau.net!news-fra1.dfn.de!news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34103 Please fellows, I can't fix errors I am not aware of so please reort the erros you find. "Jorn Johanesson" skrev i en meddelelse news:3e6db1df$0$42665$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk... > If you get an alias error in my software then install the Palm support. > Sorry I was unaware of this error because I of course have this installed. > Then the software will run without getting to this error. > > -- > Best regards > > Jorn Johanesson > > visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software > and other beekeeping stuff. > > Article 34104 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Update istallation password Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 12:33:04 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 26 Message-ID: <3e6dc983$0$156$edfadb0f@dread11.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.249.242.78 X-Trace: 1047382404 dread11.news.tele.dk 156 195.249.242.78 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34104 Dear fellows! Because of this Alias error I will give the password for the update free. It is Melifica! the update http://apimo.dk/programs/bidataupdate.exe 6.5MB will fix this error. the full archive need to be installed and if you have thrown it out beeing pissed of then please : http://apimo.dk/programs/beekeping_hivenote.exe I am very sorry for this created error, the software should of course also run if no palm handheld avilable. -- Best regards Jorn Johanesson visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software and other beekeeping stuff. Article 34105 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "vinel10" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <20030310192919.17823.00000152@mb-fe.aol.com> Subject: Re: Virus warning in email on beekeeping group Date: Tue, 11 Mar 2003 13:20:17 -0500 Lines: 32 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.90.92.100 Message-ID: <3e6e2982_3@corp.newsgroups.com> X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1047406978 63.90.92.100 (11 Mar 2003 12:22:58 -0600) X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!! X-Report: Please report illegal or inappropriate use to X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, INCLUDING the body (DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 100,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!xmission!local-out2.newsfeeds.com!corp.newsgroups.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34105 best way to keep from getting a virus do not open any forwards "Barry Birkey" wrote in message news:BA92A90C.11FFA%barry@birkey.com... > > From: bobpursley@aol.com (Bob Pursley) > > Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com > > Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping > > Date: 11 Mar 2003 00:29:19 GMT > > Subject: Virus warning in email on beekeeping group > > > > In the last two days, I have received email ( A very new website) that > > contained virus in the attachements. One mail was purported to be from adam > > finkelstein, the other from Barry. Here are the mail tracings on each: > > > Be forewarned, and thank goodness for virus screeners. > > Bob Pursley > > Virus warnings lack significance in my opinion. If you're going to be active > on the internet, you're going to be dealing with viruses, hoaxes, worms and > a lot of opinions. I receive viruses all the time from others. I'd be > posting a warning everyday if I did the same. Just because you got something > from Adam and myself doesn't mean we were the originators of such mail. > Anyway, screen away! > > Regards, > Barry > -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Article 34106 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: albert.cannon@lineone.net (albert cannon) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Virus warning in email on beekeeping group Date: 11 Mar 2003 16:30:05 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 9 Message-ID: <4169b71c.0303111630.7572ae35@posting.google.com> References: <20030310192919.17823.00000152@mb-fe.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 80.225.118.9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047429006 26280 127.0.0.1 (12 Mar 2003 00:30:06 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Mar 2003 00:30:06 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34106 bobpursley@aol.com (Bob Pursley) wrote in message news:<20030310192919.17823.00000152@mb-fe.aol.com>... > In the last two days, I have received email ( A very new website) that > contained virus in the attachements. One mail was purported to be from adam > finkelstein, the other from Barry. Here are the mail tracings on each: > > get yourself some form of virus detector to start with. Then dont open any attattachments unless you are sure who they are from, and even then be careful. I only read/open emails from people who i know. if one gets by then my virus detecter kicks in. albert cannon Article 34107 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: JAF Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: See my EBay Ad. Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 09:55:51 +0000 Organization: Or Chaos? You Choose! Lines: 3 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: pc3-scun2-4-cust12.nott.cable.ntl.com (81.108.83.12) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1047462951 67041205 81.108.83.12 (16 [154186]) X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.91/32.564 X-No-Archive: yes Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!pc3-scun2-4-cust12.nott.cable.ntl.COM!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34107 Please take a look at - http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=519&item=2312137836&rd=1 Article 34108 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: drezac@greenapple.com (Duane Rezac) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Lost 3 Hives - Advice on starting over needed. Date: 12 Mar 2003 08:46:22 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 28 Message-ID: <7ec141c5.0303120846.4efe81bd@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.26.122.12 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047487583 10586 127.0.0.1 (12 Mar 2003 16:46:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Mar 2003 16:46:23 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34108 I'm in South Central Ohio, and lost all 3 of my hives this winter during the last month. Any suggestions on what I should do to the hives to get them ready to start over other than to shop-vac out all the dead bees? It looks like it was weather related, I did not see any sign of other problems in the frames I have inspected. 2 of the hives still have quite a bit of honey remaining. 1 has very little left (but it was a new hive this year, we had a bad summer for honey,and I was not sure it would make it through a rough winter). I was feeding all 3 candy, and on a warm day just before our last cold spell added candy to all 3 hives - all 3 appeared very strong (at first I thought I would just lift the covers and place the candy on the frames above the cluster, but there was so much activity I had to go back and completly suit up). All 3 hives were treated with Apistan this fall for mites. Our local inspector is planning to come over this weekend to take a look to make sure there was not a disease problem, I'll wait until then to clean everything out. Thanks. Duane Rezac Clover Fields Farm Article 34109 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: aud@yahoo.com (audrey) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: saw my first swarm! Date: 12 Mar 2003 13:30:14 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 29 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 67.121.169.207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047504614 13480 127.0.0.1 (12 Mar 2003 21:30:14 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Mar 2003 21:30:14 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34109 it's been a very warm and relatively dry winter here (in the San Francisco Bay Area) and the bees are active. I haven't done my inspection yet (procrastination) or put supers on my backyard hive, yet. I saw what must have been a swarm go over my suburban house today! I've only heard of swarms as those already at rest in a tree (i.e.) and as a "ball" of bees. I had just returned from a trip to Costco and had let the dog in the house when I heard a really loud buzzing sound from the backyard. I ventured out and tried to determine where the buzzing was from - it was all above me - 20-30 feet up. There were enough bees to see dancing shadows on the ground, but not to visually create a dense bunch. I ran back thru the house back out front (I had left the doors to the minivan open, while I unloaded my costco goodies) and I saw/heard the swarm continue across the street and over the neighbors house and they were gone. The swarm moved quickly, I thought! The swarm wasn't from my hive, unless they got the idea to swarm just today and left - no evidence of increasing numbers. And the hive was strong last year (at least, it produced very well, which I assume means a strong queen). Just coincidence the swarm went up/over my hive? audrey ishizaki, who is thinking that the supers better go on soon! Article 34110 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: saw my first swarm! Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2003 23:16:06 -0000 Lines: 14 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.190.148 X-Trace: newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk 1047510979 10929 217.135.190.148 (12 Mar 2003 23:16:19 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 12 Mar 2003 23:16:19 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34110 "audrey" wrote in message news:d1573943.0303121330.accce5a@posting.google.com... > The swarm wasn't from my hive, That what they all say! Have you checked? Are there sealed queen cells? -- Peter Edwards beekeepers@stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk Article 34111 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Lost 3 Hives - Advice on starting over needed. Date: 12 Mar 2003 23:35:44 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 4 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0303122335.48e32450@posting.google.com> References: <7ec141c5.0303120846.4efe81bd@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.69.71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047540944 19382 127.0.0.1 (13 Mar 2003 07:35:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Mar 2003 07:35:44 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34111 > > All 3 hives were treated with Apistan this fall for mites. > If you waited until fall you treated far to late. Article 34112 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Winter Losses Date: 12 Mar 2003 23:36:37 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 1 Message-ID: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.153.69.71 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047540998 19516 127.0.0.1 (13 Mar 2003 07:36:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Mar 2003 07:36:38 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!elk.ncren.net!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34112 Reports in and around Southeast CT and RI indicate hard winter losses. Article 34113 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "mark mski" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Winter Losses Lines: 15 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.252.99.222 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr10.news.prodigy.com 1047552231 ST000 64.252.99.222 (Thu, 13 Mar 2003 05:43:51 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 05:43:51 EST Organization: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com X-UserInfo1: TSU[@I_AOHUOVPLXKROP^T\APRY@A@LLBIPZ_GYOJZ]BGIELNVUEAE[YETZPIWWI[FCIZA^NBFXZ_D[BFNTCNVPDTNTKHWXKB@X^B_OCJLPZ@ET_O[G\XSG@E\G[ZKVLBL^CJINM@I_KVIOR\T_M_AW_M[_BWU_HFA_]@A_A^SGFAUDE_DFTMQPFWVW[QPJN Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 10:43:51 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!xmission!news-out.triton.net!triton.net!newsfeeder.triton.net!prodigy.com!prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!newssvr10.news.prodigy.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34113 "Beecrofter" wrote in message news:23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com... > Reports in and around Southeast CT and RI indicate hard winter losses. I live in west central Connecticut and I was fortunate. I'm only a hobbyist with three hives, but two of them were attacked by a bear in November. The hive bodies and frames littered across my yard. I was able to check them out this weekend and was pleasantly surprised that they made it so far. The winter has been long and the bees are a little anxious to get going. mark Article 34114 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Winter Losses Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 13:13:11 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 10 Message-ID: <3e7083a5.259366406@news1.radix.net> References: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip183.sns.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.radix.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34114 On 12 Mar 2003 23:36:37 -0800, bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) wrote: >Reports in and around Southeast CT and RI indicate hard winter losses. They are bad here in Maryland as well. I think the drout keep them from building up for the winter. beekeep Article 34115 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:16:05 -0600 From: "me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <7ec141c5.0303120846.4efe81bd@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Lost 3 Hives - Advice on starting over needed. Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 08:15:42 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Lines: 38 NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.198.128.33 X-Trace: sv3-roVunRGCMobT1GQ1ANpp0ewAn22cBb57LXdnvU2JE3Mb23+0T0koFOBLBVUA9heRIQYc+fXOwJBLTlD!JN2A6j2g3hcqvWyEXLxUyuP3LDgpm5Eop7qXcDPrIa7qfQiYypkR5wyAuWJzNyjgw3bl1Q== X-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@crcom.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.1 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.vmunix.org!newsfeed.stueberl.de!cox.net!border3.nntp.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!nntp.crcom.net!news.crcom.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34115 You may have experienced Tracheal Mite losses. Winter is when this happens. There aren't very many new bees and the older bees become weak and succumb to the mite. Your mite strips won't kill T Mites. If you belong to Norland Beekeepers, ask Joe Waggle about his losses. West Texas Mark -Original Message- I'm in South Central Ohio, and lost all 3 of my hives this winter during the last month. Any suggestions on what I should do to the hives to get them ready to start over other than to shop-vac out all the dead bees? It looks like it was weather related, I did not see any sign of other problems in the frames I have inspected. 2 of the hives still have quite a bit of honey remaining. 1 has very little left (but it was a new hive this year, we had a bad summer for honey,and I was not sure it would make it through a rough winter). I was feeding all 3 candy, and on a warm day just before our last cold spell added candy to all 3 hives - all 3 appeared very strong (at first I thought I would just lift the covers and place the candy on the frames above the cluster, but there was so much activity I had to go back and completly suit up). All 3 hives were treated with Apistan this fall for mites. Our local inspector is planning to come over this weekend to take a look to make sure there was not a disease problem, I'll wait until then to clean everything out. Thanks. Duane Rezac Clover Fields Farm Article 34116 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "huestis'" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: new small cell study Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 09:19:06 -0800 Lines: 22 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.23.5.65 Message-ID: <3e7094b6_3@corp.newsgroups.com> X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1047565494 209.23.5.65 (13 Mar 2003 08:24:54 -0600) X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!! X-Report: Please report illegal or inappropriate use to X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, INCLUDING the body (DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 100,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!xmission!news-out.newsfeeds.com!l2!corp.newsgroups.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34116 For those who care: > Hello Everyone, > > Barry Birkey sent me this URL. Check it out: > > http://www.funpecrp.com.br/gmr/year2003/vol1-2/gmr0057_full_text.htm > > It confirms some of the stuff those of us on small cell are seeing. The > results would have been even more dramatic had the colony been fully > regressed on small cell. > > Thank's Barry. > > Hey you guys on Norlanders and Organics pass the URL on if it's meaningful to you. > > Best Wishes > Dennis -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Article 34117 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Steve Huston" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com> Subject: Re: Winter Losses Lines: 20 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <5k1ca.76283$6b3.265207@rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.62.89.183 X-Complaints-To: abuse@attbi.com X-Trace: rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net 1047568769 24.62.89.183 (Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:19:29 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:19:29 GMT Organization: AT&T Broadband Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 15:19:29 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!rwcrnsc51.ops.asp.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34117 "Beecrofter" wrote in message news:23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com... > Reports in and around Southeast CT and RI indicate hard winter losses. I'm in southeastern Massachusetts (near RI) - 2 of my 4 have died. The other two are still kickin'. They had high varroa counts last summer. I pulled the honey early and put in Apistan to no avail. Still high counts after Apistan. Used a different treatment after that, but it may have been too late. All four of the colonies got new queens last year (they all swarmed) and I let the queens mate naturally around here. Not an approach I'm likely to try again soon. Varroa skyrocketed and the bees have eaten more stores than in the past. I'm going with NWC queens this year, as I've had very good results with them in the past. Steve Huston Article 34118 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: drezac@greenapple.com (Duane Rezac) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Lost 3 Hives - Advice on starting over needed. Date: 13 Mar 2003 09:26:53 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com/ Lines: 16 Message-ID: <7ec141c5.0303130926.66bcfe89@posting.google.com> References: <7ec141c5.0303120846.4efe81bd@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.26.122.13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: posting.google.com 1047576413 24445 127.0.0.1 (13 Mar 2003 17:26:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Mar 2003 17:26:53 GMT Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!postnews1.google.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34118 "me" wrote in message news:... > You may have experienced Tracheal Mite losses. Winter is when this happens. > There aren't very many new bees and the older bees become weak and succumb > to the mite. Your mite strips won't kill T Mites. If you belong to Norland > Beekeepers, ask Joe Waggle about his losses. > > West Texas Mark > Our inspector suggested the same thing. While the tests done earlier this year did not show a problem with T Mites, He told me he suggests treating for both anyway, as they are harder to detect earlier in the year when the hive inspections and test are done. I just treated for V-mites, so that may have been my problem. Duane Rezac Article 34119 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <3E70F069.D87BE107@hcis.net> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 12:56:09 -0800 From: AL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Winter Losses References: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.20.226.8 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1047582134 66.20.226.8 (13 Mar 2003 13:02:14 -0600) Lines: 17 X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!! X-Report: Please report illegal or inappropriate use to X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, INCLUDING the body (DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 100,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!news-out.spamkiller.net!propagator2-maxim!propagator3-maxim!news-in.superfeed.net!corp.newsgroups.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34119 Beecrofter wrote: > > Reports in and around Southeast CT and RI indicate hard winter losses. Southern IL - lost 1 of 4, but that's ok. Over the past 3 years they had become mean, very mean. I looked down into the empty box a few weeks ago and thought "serves you little buggers right"... We had a good stand of goldenrod last fall that I'm sure contributed to the survival of the other three. AL -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Article 34120 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Winter Losses Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 19:51:49 -0000 Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com> <3E70F069.D87BE107@hcis.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 217.135.147.47 X-Trace: newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk 1047585111 14773 217.135.147.47 (13 Mar 2003 19:51:51 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 13 Mar 2003 19:51:51 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4920.2300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4920.2300 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34120 "AL" wrote in message news:3E70F069.D87BE107@hcis.net... > Beecrofter wrote: > > > > Reports in and around Southeast CT and RI indicate hard winter losses. > > Southern IL - lost 1 of 4, but that's ok. Over the past 3 years they had > become mean, very mean. I looked down into the empty box a few weeks ago > and thought "serves you little buggers right"... But you will not get much honey from them now! -- Peter Edwards beekeepers@stratford-upon-avon.freeserve.co.uk Article 34121 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <3E7126E3.1123F83E@hcis.net> Date: Thu, 13 Mar 2003 16:48:35 -0800 From: AL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Winter Losses References: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com> <3E70F069.D87BE107@hcis.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.20.228.209 X-Trace: corp.newsgroups.com 1047596080 66.20.228.209 (13 Mar 2003 16:54:40 -0600) Lines: 24 X-Comments: This message was posted through Newsfeeds.com X-Comments2: IMPORTANT: Newsfeeds.com does not condone, nor support, spam or any illegal or copyrighted postings. X-Comments3: IMPORTANT: Under NO circumstances will postings containing illegal or copyrighted material through this service be tolerated!! X-Report: Please report illegal or inappropriate use to X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers, INCLUDING the body (DO NOT SEND ATTACHMENTS) Organization: Newsfeeds.com http://www.newsfeeds.com 100,000+ UNCENSORED Newsgroups. Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!news-out.newsfeeds.com!l2!corp.newsgroups.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34121 Peter Edwards wrote: > > "AL" wrote in message news:3E70F069.D87BE107@hcis.net... > > Beecrofter wrote: > > > > > > Reports in and around Southeast CT and RI indicate hard winter losses. > > > > Southern IL - lost 1 of 4, but that's ok. Over the past 3 years they had > > become mean, very mean. I looked down into the empty box a few weeks ago > > and thought "serves you little buggers right"... > > But you will not get much honey from them now! Didn't say I got much from them in the first place. AL -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =----- Article 34122 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Host: user-10003987.zetnet.co.uk Message-ID: <2003031400153975982@zetnet.co.uk> Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 00:15:39 GMT Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: Phil Gurr X-Mailer: ZIMACS Version 2.16 10003987 Subject: Re: Winter Losses References: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com> <3E70F069.D87BE107@hcis.net> <3E7126E3.1123F83E@hcis.net> Lines: 14 X-Trace: 1047600782 master.news.zetnet.net 773 194.247.47.30 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!diablo.theplanet.net!mephistopheles.news.clara.net!news.clara.net!peer.news.zetnet.net!master.news.zetnet.net!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34122 The message <3E7126E3.1123F83E@hcis.net> from AL contains these words: > > "AL" wrote in message news:3E70F069.D87BE107@hcis.net... > > > Beecrofter wrote: > > > > > > > > Reports in and around Southeast CT and RI indicate hard winter losses. > > > > > > Southern IL - lost 1 of 4, but that's ok. No losses reported from SD or RE despite a colder winter than recent years Phil. Article 34123 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "BeeFarmer" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Winter Losses Date: Fri, 14 Mar 2003 10:57:33 -0500 Organization: Kids getting involved with Beekeeping Lines: 37 Message-ID: References: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com> <3e7083a5.259366406@news1.radix.net> Reply-To: "BeeFarmer" NNTP-Posting-Host: rrcs-central-24-123-61-178.biz.rr.com (24.123.61.178) X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 1047657455 70513056 24.123.61.178 (16 [66812]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stueberl.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!rrcs-central-24-123-61-178.biz.rr.COM!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34123 There have been lots of bees lost here in Ohio this year. The local bee inspector lost 12 out of 14 hives. He had plenty of stores left, however the bees didn't appear to move up to them. I have been lucky so far and have lost only 4 of 30. When I clean out a dead hive I normally scrape off any extra burr comb, clean the bottom board, inner cover, and knock out some of the dead bees in the comb. Most of the work will be taken care of by the new bees. NOTE... this is if I don't find any issue that may make the hive unlivable.. AFB, POISON... and so on.. I also rid the hive of excess drone cells and honey\pollen filled frames I note so I can use to feed my other hives for feeding if needed. If I don't use them for feeding I move them about for use in the new hive. -- OhioBeeFarmer Getting kids involved in Beekeeping http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/BeesRUs.html http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html - "beekeep" wrote in message news:3e7083a5.259366406@news1.radix.net... > On 12 Mar 2003 23:36:37 -0800, bamboo@localnet.com (Beecrofter) wrote: > > >Reports in and around Southeast CT and RI indicate hard winter losses. > > They are bad here in Maryland as well. I think the drout keep them > from building up for the winter. > > beekeep > > Article 34124 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: New language added Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 14:15:54 +0100 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Lines: 11 Message-ID: <3e732785$0$244$edfadb0f@dread15.news.tele.dk> Organization: TDC Internet NNTP-Posting-Host: 195.215.97.72 X-Trace: 1047734150 dread15.news.tele.dk 244 195.215.97.72 X-Complaints-To: abuse@post.tele.dk Path: news.unc.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34124 If you are interested in French and dutch language to Bidata then http://apimo.dk/programs/Languagepack.zip 600KB -- Best regards Jorn Johanesson visit http://apimo.dk for beekeeping software and other beekeeping stuff. Article 34125 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: adamf@nullcity.net (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Maple pollen available 03/15/03 USA/Mid-Atlantic Date: 15 Mar 2003 10:45:46 -0500 Organization: Self-Organized. Dig that. Lines: 8 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: panix3.panix.com X-Trace: reader2.panix.com 1047743146 21139 166.84.1.3 (15 Mar 2003 15:45:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@panix.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:45:46 +0000 (UTC) Path: news.unc.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!panix!panix3.panix.com!not-for-mail Xref: news.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:34125 Sighted open Silver Maple today. Frederick County, MD USA (30 miles North of Wash D.C.) Adam -- Adam Finkelstein adamf panix com To reply to this post, use the address components in the signature. Article 34126 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 19:00:32 -0600 From: "Pavel314" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <23e8adb1.0303122336.599549b5@posting.google.com>