Article 24611 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: kamtout@together.net Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Entrance feeder & reducer Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 23:48:17 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 62 Message-ID: <8eignt$gi7$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <4VOM4.218$QM.81848@ratbert.tds.net> <8e7d1o$kpm$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.13.202.68 X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun Apr 30 23:48:17 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x28.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 208.13.202.68 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDkamtout Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24611 In the spirit of helping a new 1 hive beekeeper perhaps we could start by putting the cynicism aside for say a plastic discussion.. Glenn, The entrance reducer is meant to do only that. the tiny 1" mode or the wider 3 or 4" one. take your pick, if it's still cold maybe use the smaller one. The entrance feeders work alright but not with the entrance reducer. I would suggest using the feeder one side of the whole entrance then craft a block that will sit on the bottom board and leave an inch or two open on the other end for an entrance. a 2x4 for instance just resting on the landing board. the goal would be to keep the actual entrance and the feeder seperated and not together. This will help discourage enemy visitor bees. As far as the cold goes: If its cold at night they won't be down there. IF you have an empty deep super you could take the entrance feeder,place it on the inner cover right near the hole and put the empty super over it and cover the hive. They'll use the feeder during the night. Good method for feeding over all as it get's used during all types of weather until late fall/early winter when it gets too cold anyway. That make sense at all? Mike In article <8e7d1o$kpm$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, Glenn West wrote: > In article <4VOM4.218$QM.81848@ratbert.tds.net>, > "THE WHITNEY'S" wrote: > > > > I'm Looking for some help on setting up the entrance reducer for a > first > > time hive ( and a first time beekeeper). The bee's are only day's > away! > > > > I noticed that the entrance feeder is the same size as the opening > for the > > 4" entrance. How do the bee's get past the feeder. I have a standard > Dadant > > hive with a entrance reducer with three options. 3/4" 4" or > nothing. > > > > What is the best way to set up the entrance reducer for a new hive, > taking > > in mind I have a entrance feeder. > > I think the idea is to use one or the other but not both at the same > time. > > > > > About to be stung and I can't wait > > > > Thanks Tom W. > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 24612 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!portc.blue.aol.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!easynews!cyclone-west.rr.com!news.rr.com|news-west.rr.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: John Caldeira Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Indoor Bees Message-ID: References: <390C4D53.187C1C96@istar.ca> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 19 Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 00:43:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.33.104.103 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 957141785 4.33.104.103 (Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:43:05 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:43:05 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24612 Simon de Vet wrote: >At the Nova Scotia Museum of Natural History, they have an indoor >beehive. The hive is inclosed in glass, and is thin enough to be able to >ee all the bees all the time. A glass tube yeads from the hive out the >wall. >Anyone else seen hives like this? > >Anyone have one of their own? :) Yes, and observation hives are relatively easy to build. Pictures of several observation hives that I designed and built are on my web site (below), along with some design tips. -John John Caldeira Dallas, Texas http://home.earthlink.net/~jcaldeira/beekeeping/ Article 24613 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeedZ.netscum.dQ!netscum.int!newsfeed.stanford.edu!paloalto-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!webtv.net!not-for-mail From: tenmoku@webtv.net (Hank Mishima) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: New package does not want to go down Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 17:27:09 -0700 (PDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Lines: 5 Message-ID: <4146-390CCF5D-35@storefull-108.iap.bryant.webtv.net> References: <20000430182850.14580.00001255@ng-ch1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAtAhRJP23DmGol/pPoZuPjMfj9aZf9jAIVAJftw+2EPk95HB0fKDcRbNGAgY7n Content-Disposition: Inline Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24613 If you shook them down again and used an entrance feeder, you could check for your queen on the frames of foundation. To contact your elected officials see www.vote-smart.org Article 24614 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!EU.net!blackbush.xlink.net!newscore.gigabell.net!news.okay.net!not-for-mail From: Maier_egon@heilbronn-neckar.de (Egon Maier) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: www.agroweb-hispana.com Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 01:17:20 GMT Organization: Okay.Net Newsserver @ Gigabell Lines: 41 Message-ID: <390cdac0.9045244@news.myOKAY.NET> References: <390cbfba$2_1@news.arrakis.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.29.52.165 X-Trace: news.okay.net 957143887 62584 194.29.52.165 (1 May 2000 01:18:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: Okay.Net Abuse Team NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 May 2000 01:18:07 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24614 On Mon, 1 May 2000 01:20:48 +0200, "aaaaaaa" wrote: >Estimado/a @migo/a: > >@groWeb, la página Hispana de Agricultura y Ganadería, ha sido actualizada >el 1 de Mayo del 2000, con dos excelentes noticias: > >1) Poseemos nuestro propio dominio, más fácil de recordar: >http://www.agroweb-hispana.com > >2) Hemos superado la barrera de las 4.000 visitas mensuales, ascendiendo el >total de visitas desde que se creo el espacio a 31.413. > >Hemos actualizado nuestras secciones ya clásicas de: > >@groEscuela, con nuevos documentos sobre maquinaria de aplicación y plagas >del algodón. 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Saludos Eberhard http://www.bienen-netz.de http://www.buckfast-imker.de http://www.woersching.net Article 24615 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!EU.net!blackbush.xlink.net!newscore.gigabell.net!news.okay.net!not-for-mail From: Maier_egon@heilbronn-neckar.de (Egon Maier) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: New BEE-servers Become member of Bienen-Netz WEBRING Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 01:29:30 GMT Organization: Okay.Net Newsserver @ Gigabell Lines: 5 Message-ID: <390cdda0.9781435@news.myOKAY.NET> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.29.52.165 X-Trace: news.okay.net 957144617 62584 194.29.52.165 (1 May 2000 01:30:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: Okay.Net Abuse Team NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 May 2000 01:30:17 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24615 http://www.bienen-netz.de/Webring/index.htm http://www.bienen-netz.de http://www.buckfast-imker.de http://www.woersching.net Article 24616 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!sn-inject-01!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "Teri Bachus" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: swarm catcher Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 22:00:47 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 21 Message-ID: References: <00091c0e.4df23c31@usw-ex0108-062.remarq.com> X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24616 you can try lemongrass oil...contains nassanov-like components...good luck! "yosi_sarid" wrote in message news:00091c0e.4df23c31@usw-ex0108-062.remarq.com... > Hello all. > One of my coloney swarmed high on a pine tree. I heard that > there are few formulations based on Nassanov pheromone. I > will be more than happey to know thire commerical names and > how can i get it? > Best regards > Yosi Sarid > > > > > > * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is Beautiful Article 24617 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: beecrofter@aol.comBee (BeeCrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Mean Bees Lines: 8 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 01 May 2000 02:17:53 GMT References: <390BD7FD.4911AEC0@lycosmailNOSPAM.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000430221753.23652.00000856@ng-ce1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24617 Don't forget bees are tougher in shade than in sun. Tom There is an extra Bee in the Email address after the AOL.com Article 24618 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.new-york.net!newspeer1.nac.net!news1.radix.net!saltmine.radix.net!not-for-mail From: adamf@saltmine.radix.net (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: NZ Beekeeping Assoc recommends destruction Date: 30 Apr 2000 22:25:23 -0400 Organization: Self-Organized. Dig that. Lines: 26 Message-ID: <8eipuj$b05$1@saltmine.radix.net> References: <8e2dfs$n0j$1@news.wave.co.nz> <8e9ek6$6tq$2@news.smartworld.net> Reply-To: adamf@radix.net NNTP-Posting-Host: saltmine.radix.net Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24618 In article , Peter Kerr wrote: >In article <8e9ek6$6tq$2@news.smartworld.net>, "Allen Dick" > wrote: >> >> For the record, this is dumb idea and will inevitably fail, but it will take >> years to find that out. > >Hmm, it could just work, given that the area is geographically small, so >far well defined, doesn't have a massive population of inaccessible feral >hives. Of course there are feral colonies, but visible and accessible, >easy to destroy. Mites are extremely adaptive. I'll bet on the mites. >Peter Kerr proficiency in vi >School of Music is a sign of a >University of Auckland mis-spent youth vi is adaptive too. Adam -- Adam Finkelstein adamf@radix.net http://metalab.unc.edu/bees/adamf Article 24619 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!ptdnetP!newsgate.ptd.net!news1.radix.net!saltmine.radix.net!not-for-mail From: adamf@saltmine.radix.net (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: spanish beekeepers protest Date: 30 Apr 2000 22:31:42 -0400 Organization: Self-Organized. Dig that. Lines: 8 Message-ID: <8eiqae$bdn$1@saltmine.radix.net> References: Reply-To: adamf@radix.net NNTP-Posting-Host: saltmine.radix.net Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24619 Thanks for this information. It's fascinating how agricultural regulation so often crosses bounds that complicate matters. Adam -- Adam Finkelstein adamf@radix.net http://metalab.unc.edu/bees/adamf Article 24620 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!portc.blue.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.comnospam (Dave Green) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: www.agroweb-hispana.com Lines: 13 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 01 May 2000 03:13:13 GMT References: <390cdac0.9045244@news.myOKAY.NET> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000430231313.08509.00000524@ng-cs1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24620 >Hola Javier, > >donde es pagina con abelhas ??? > busqueda "abejas" Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA The Pollination Home Page: http://pollinator.com Jan's Sweetness and Light Shop (Varietal Honeys and Beeswax Candles) http://users.aol.com/SweetnessL/sweetlit.htm Article 24621 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.cs.com!not-for-mail From: rdveal@cs.com (RDVeal) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: New package does not want to go down Lines: 6 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.cs.com X-Admin: news@cs.com Date: 01 May 2000 04:11:39 GMT References: <20000430182850.14580.00001255@ng-ch1.aol.com> Organization: CompuServe (http://www.compuserve.com/) Message-ID: <20000501001139.25509.00000664@ng-df1.news.cs.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24621 They may be balling the queen. Perhaps she was released before they had her essence sufficiently distributed, or she may be damaged in some way that causes them to refuse her. One of my packages balled the queen. When I got her out, she had a damaged wing. I don't know if she was that way or if they dmaged her wing. Article 24622 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!portc.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.cs.com!not-for-mail From: rdveal@cs.com (RDVeal) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: swarm catcher Lines: 2 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.cs.com X-Admin: news@cs.com Date: 01 May 2000 04:15:15 GMT References: <00091c0e.4df23c31@usw-ex0108-062.remarq.com> Organization: CompuServe (http://www.compuserve.com/) Message-ID: <20000501001515.25509.00000666@ng-df1.news.cs.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24622 You can order it from Dadant. http://www.dadant.com. Probably from other places as well. I think it is about $6.00 american for 2 packages. Article 24623 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!portc.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.comnospam (Dave Green) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Old Beekeeper Meets a City Lawyer Lines: 22 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder07.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 01 May 2000 04:27:19 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000501002719.24911.00000693@ng-cc1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24623 An old beekeeper, with weatherbeaten face, and bib overalls, driving a rusty one-ton truck, collided with a new Mercedes driven by a pasty-faced guy in a business suit. Both vehicles were wrecked; both drivers were shaken up, but neither was hurt. "You old hayseed! I'm gonna sue you for this! Do you know I'm an attorney?" "Waall," drawled the old timer, "I see neither of us was hurt. There's no need to be so upset." Then he reached into his toolbox and pulled out a bottle of wine. "Lookee here! This didn't even get broke...here's a bottle of my best elderberry wine...doncha think we oughter celebrate." "Here," he said, popping the cork, "I propose a toast to our guardian angels." He handed the bottle to the young man. "Well, okay, I guess." The young fellow had stopped breathing hard, but was still shaking. "I suppose I could use some anyway." He took a long draw, then handed back the bottle to the bee man. The old timer recorked the bottle and put it away. "Aren't you gonna drink?" asked the lawyer? "Nope, I'll just wait for the police." Pollinator http://hemingwaysouthcarolina.com http://pollinator.com Article 24624 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!sn-inject-01!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: AL Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Vegan web site Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2000 23:26:44 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 10 Message-ID: <390D0784.2DC0C060@midwest.net> References: X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24624 David Gladstone wrote: > > > I've just been doing a bit of surfing and quite by accident I've come > across http://www.vegansociety.com/info/info24.html uh oh, here we go again... AL Article 24625 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Leon Jordaan" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <390C4D53.187C1C96@istar.ca> Subject: Re: Indoor Bees Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 14:32:50 +0200 Lines: 48 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 NNTP-Posting-Host: bfn-dial-196-7-94-27.mweb.co.za Message-ID: <390d7b54.0@news1.mweb.co.za> X-Trace: 1 May 2000 14:40:52 +0200, bfn-dial-196-7-94-27.mweb.co.za Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!enews.sgi.com!iafrica.com!news1.mweb.co.za!bfn-dial-196-7-94-27.mweb.co.za Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24625 Hi Simon, Some years ago I saw an indoor glass enclosed hive at a dealer`s shop in Goodwood, Cape Town, South Africa. This facinated me. I decided to do the same and constructed a nuc hive out of glass and proceded to hive a small swarm of cape bees. This was facinating to watch. They became too big and had to be removed and placed in a normal outdoor hive. I lived in Johannesburg for a while and learned some more. I then constructed a nuc from double layered perspex to keep the temperature more constant. It was only put to use after I moved to a small town called Jagersfontein in the Freestate Province. The hive stood in my study and gave me hours of joy. Unfortunately I am now living in an area where commercial beekeeping can not be practiced and the severe droughts experienced in these parts from time to time can be blamed for this. The bees in this hive were also eventually placed in a proper hive and my little nuc has been empty since then. A few weeks ago a small swarm moved into one of my bird`s nests (I am a birdkeeper and breeder also) and in desperation to save my birds and with nothing else available I hived the bees in this nuc. My study had been changed since the last swarm called it home and for now this swarm is kept outside the house in my garden. Winter is approaching in our area and I will need to make a plan. We do experience -10 C some nights and the hive was not desighned for this. It is the three feet or three mile rule that will be causing me problems as time is running out for me and the bees. I can tell you more of some facinatings things which I observed, but enough for now. More later. Leon Simon de Vet wrote in message news:390C4D53.187C1C96@istar.ca... > At the Nova Scotia Museum of Natural History, they have an indoor > beehive. The hive is inclosed in glass, and is thin enough to be able to > ee all the bees all the time. A glass tube yeads from the hive out the > wall. > > This is facinating to watch. You can see the bees doing their little > dance. You can see them coming in and out. When winter comes, and bees > die, you can see them being dragged to the exit and dropped onto the > ground. > > Anyone else seen hives like this? > > Anyone have one of their own? :) > > Simon > Article 24626 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!interpath.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!gxn.net!newsxfer.visi.net!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!sn-inject-01!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "Teri Bachus" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: biocontrol for ahb? Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 10:02:04 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 6 Message-ID: References: X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24626 some background on the lusbys from 1/98 "bee culture" magazine can be found online at: http://bee.airoot.com/beeculture/98jan/98jan2.html Article 24627 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jmitc1014@aol.com (JMitc1014) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Introduction Lines: 6 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 01 May 2000 15:08:24 GMT References: <8ehtf3$s92$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000501110824.22330.00001685@ng-md1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24627 Welcome. I am curious. What are your nectar and pollen plants? Do you have large nectar and pollen flows, and how long is your season? What unique or unusual challenges does beekeeping in Southwest Asia present to you? I think of your area as not really having any substantial winter to speak of, unlike the Northeastern U.S. where I am located. Do you ever get days of frost? Article 24628 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!sn-inject-01!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "Teri Bachus" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: ahb in southwest usa Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 10:10:17 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 8 Message-ID: References: X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24628 for more on beekeeping with/among ahb in arizona, see 1/98 "bee culture" magazine online at: http://bee.airoot.com/beeculture/98jan/98jan3.html http://bee.airoot.com/beeculture/98jan/98jan2.html Article 24629 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!209.133.60.2.MISMATCH!localhost!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: Glenn West Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Hive paint Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 15:20:38 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 37 Message-ID: <8ek7bm$99d$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <390af765@news.gj.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.228.142.1 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon May 01 15:20:38 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 95) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x40.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 199.228.142.1 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDwestxga Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24629 In article <390af765@news.gj.net>, bdigman@cyberport.com wrote: > All, > I can't believe there's a hive sitting on my front porch. I > procrastinated for years, thumbing through catalogs and reading > beekeeping books. A couple of weeks ago a fellow stops by the office > on his way to an elementary school to do a presentation on bees. He > has a brand new package of bees with a neat little queen in a cage and > a shiny new hive in the back of his pickup. I started some sort of > primordial drool. Bees. Honey. Twenty minutes later the lady on the > phone is asking for the expiration date on my credit card. This > craving must be worse than crack. > My first question is about paint. I see "Beehive Paint" in the > catalogs, but I also see what appears to be regular acrylic flat latex > offered. Can I use regular acrylic from Bubba's corner hardware store > to paint the hive? Thanks. Sure. I use an exterior waterbased primer. I buy the exterior flat latex topcoat for $1 a quart from the "returned" bin at Lowes or Home Depot. You'll be amazed at how many hive bodies you can paint with a quart of paint. Using light colors will keep the hives coolest in the summer. > > P.S. Is there a pamphlet with some generally acceptable answers to > such questiions from wives such as "What the hell is a > 3-frame-hand-crank-extractor and why is it more important than new > kitchen curtains?" Thanks again. > > Barry > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 24630 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: leggsafton@my-deja.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: multi eggs per cell? Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 15:44:36 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 8 Message-ID: <8ek8oc$an8$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 4.54.45.232 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon May 01 15:44:36 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.01; Windows 98) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x40.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 4.54.45.232 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDleggsafton Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24630 I went through a hive that hasn't been doing very well and noticed some cells that had 3 eggs in them. Other cells had larvae growing. I did not see the queen but did a month ago. Does this appear to be workers laying eggs or just a bad queen? Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 24631 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!portc.blue.aol.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: paul_bilodeau@my-deja.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: refining beeswax Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 15:51:35 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 35 Message-ID: <8ek95c$bb0$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <8efurb$skj$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.222.82.209 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon May 01 15:51:35 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x34.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 209.222.82.209 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDpaul_bilodeau Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24631 In article <8efurb$skj$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, southbee@my-deja.com wrote: > In article , > "Darren" wrote: > > Am looking for a pointer for information on the web or other source > for > > simple process to refine beeswax... Any help would be greatly > appreciated... > > Darren.. Darren, I'm a small hobbyist beekeeper and consequently clean and use fairly small amounts. Here's what I do: First, I buy the small disposable aluminum bread baking pans (5 in a pack) and float then in a stew pot partially filled with boiling water. Next, I hand pick the easier and larger chunks of debris from the cappings, and then place small blobs of cappings into the floating bread pans. After a few minutes the wax will be completely melted. Add more blobs (and pans, if needed) until all your wax is melted. Next, take a new, clean bread pan and slide it inside the leg of a brand-new pair of ladies nylons. the small pans hold the nylon material open very well. Now, pour the molten wax through the nylon and into the pan. You can slowly turn the nylon around the outside of the pan when the material becomes clogged with debris. After all the wax has been filtered, slide the pan out of the nylon and let it cool. Once the wax is solid, pull outward slightly on the edges of the aluminum pan to release the edges of the wax block. Below the wax will be a layer of separated honey. Clean off the bottom surface of the wax and you're done. Good Luck, Paul Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 24632 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.comnospam (Dave Green) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: multi eggs per cell? Lines: 26 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 01 May 2000 16:44:16 GMT References: <8ek8oc$an8$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000501124416.24909.00000788@ng-cc1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24632 From: leggsafton@my-deja.com >I went through a hive that hasn't been doing very well and noticed some >cells that had 3 eggs in them. Other cells had larvae growing. I >did not see the queen but did a month ago. Does this appear to be >workers laying eggs or just a bad queen? Laying worker eggs will be attatched to the side of the cell. Queen eggs will be at the bottom. If you have an old queen, she is failing. You may see some sealed brood that has been capped with bullet shaped caps (starting to be a drone layer). If you have a young queen (did you see a recently hatched queen cell?), give her some time to get established. Young queens often take a few days to get the hang of it. Check them again in a week and a half. In either case it would be a good idea to give them a frame or two of brood from a strong hive, including at least a few cells with eggs. Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA The Pollination Home Page: http://pollinator.com Jan's Sweetness and Light Shop (Varietal Honeys and Beeswax Candles) http://users.aol.com/SweetnessL/sweetlit.htm Article 24633 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Larry W" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <390C4D53.187C1C96@istar.ca> <390d7b54.0@news1.mweb.co.za> Subject: Re: Indoor Bees Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 11:44:36 -0500 Lines: 65 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.24.176.56 Message-ID: <390db3cf_1@news.vic.com> X-Trace: 1 May 2000 12:41:51 -0400, 208.24.176.56 Organization: Newsville.Com (http://www.newsville.com) Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.cwix.com!news.vic.com!208.24.176.56 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24633 I have been to a flee market in the Florida panhandle where a beekeeper has a hive inside the fleemarket housed in a glass hive. The hive is about 3'x3'x4' all glass with a forked tree branch in the center, that the bees have used to hang comb. This is a totally natural hive. The beekeeper got the swarm on the tree limb and sawed it off and put it in the glass enclosure. It sits to one side inside his honey and candle shop. Larry "Leon Jordaan" wrote in message news:390d7b54.0@news1.mweb.co.za... > Hi Simon, > Some years ago I saw an indoor glass enclosed hive at a dealer`s shop in > Goodwood, Cape Town, South Africa. This facinated me. I decided to do the > same and constructed a nuc hive out of glass and proceded to hive a small > swarm of cape bees. This was facinating to watch. They became too big and > had to be removed and placed in a normal outdoor hive. > I lived in Johannesburg for a while and learned some more. I then > constructed a nuc from double layered perspex to keep the temperature more > constant. It was only put to use after I moved to a small town called > Jagersfontein in the Freestate Province. The hive stood in my study and gave > me hours of joy. Unfortunately I am now living in an area where commercial > beekeeping can not be practiced and the severe droughts experienced in these > parts from time to time can be blamed for this. > The bees in this hive were also eventually placed in a proper hive and my > little nuc has been empty since then. A few weeks ago a small swarm moved > into one of my bird`s nests (I am a birdkeeper and breeder also) and in > desperation to save my birds and with nothing else available I hived the > bees in this nuc. My study had been changed since the last swarm called it > home and for now this swarm is kept outside the house in my garden. > Winter is approaching in our area and I will need to make a plan. We do > experience -10 C some nights and the hive was not desighned for this. It is > the three feet or three mile rule that will be causing me problems as time > is running out for me and the bees. > I can tell you more of some facinatings things which I observed, but enough > for now. More later. > > Leon > > Simon de Vet wrote in message > news:390C4D53.187C1C96@istar.ca... > > At the Nova Scotia Museum of Natural History, they have an indoor > > beehive. The hive is inclosed in glass, and is thin enough to be able to > > ee all the bees all the time. A glass tube yeads from the hive out the > > wall. > > > > This is facinating to watch. You can see the bees doing their little > > dance. You can see them coming in and out. When winter comes, and bees > > die, you can see them being dragged to the exit and dropped onto the > > ground. > > > > Anyone else seen hives like this? > > > > Anyone have one of their own? :) > > > > Simon > > > > Article 24634 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!news.eecis.udel.edu!netnews.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!hermes.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!uunet!ffx.uu.net!xyzzy!nntp From: "Billy Y. Smart II" Subject: Swarm Cells on New Package Hive X-Nntp-Posting-Host: rs496769.ks.boeing.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <390DABDA.E2F13FCA@nospam.boeing.com> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (Boeing NNTP News Access) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Tooling Numeric Control Programming - Wichita Division X-Accept-Language: en Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 16:07:54 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; AIX 4.3) Lines: 39 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24634 Group, Installed my first packages (3) on April 8. All three hives are doing great - lots of capped brood (probably some emerging today), capped honey, and pollen. Checked them all Saturday and found one with 3 queen cells hanging from the bottom of a frame. Lots of drone cells in this hive as well. The other two hives have no queen cells and I could only find one drone cell in each of them. I'm surprised that I would have a hive building swarm cells already as they have only been at it for three weeks. They have each taken 1 gal. of sugar syrup and have almost worked through an additional 1/2 gal. of extracted fall honey given me by a friendly local beekeeper. I'm feeding them with a pail inverted over the top cover. The colony with the swarm cells has been taking the most feed. I destroyed the queen cells in the one and added a 2nd deep brood box with 10 frames of foundation to all three hives as they have drawn comb on 9 of the 10 frames on the first box. I am at a loss to say which is the strongest colony as they all seem to be doing equally well. Now some questions: Did I do right by destroying the cells and adding the 2nd brood box to the colony with the swarm cells? I sure would hate to lose a package & queen to a swarm right out of the gate! They are all still taking feed even though nectar is available. Should I quit feeding them? Could this be the reason for the swarm cells? All three hives still have the entrance reducers on. When do I take them off? Newbee in S. Central Kansas, -- Billy Y. Smart II /* If the opinions expressed herein reflect those of the */ /* Boeing Company, it would be entirely coincidental. */ /* Remove the "NOSPAM" from the address to reply */ Article 24635 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.new-york.net!newspeer1.nac.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail From: honeybs@radix.net Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: multi eggs per cell? Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 17:30:13 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 12 Message-ID: <390dbe8b.1022703@news1.radix.net> References: <8ek8oc$an8$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <20000501130218.22329.00001733@ng-md1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p11.a3.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.1/16.230 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24635 On 01 May 2000 17:02:18 GMT, jmitc1014@aol.com (JMitc1014) wrote: >You have a hive with no queen and laying workers. The multiple eggs per cell is >the dead-givaway. The other sign is that drones are being raised in worker >cells. Makes a frame look like the bees went insane. NOT TRUE! Some new queens have to learn to lay one egg per cell. It can sometimes take them a week to get it right. Ya just never know with bees. Greg the beekeep Article 24636 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!portc.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jmitc1014@aol.com (JMitc1014) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: multi eggs per cell? Lines: 23 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 01 May 2000 17:02:18 GMT References: <8ek8oc$an8$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000501130218.22329.00001733@ng-md1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24636 You have a hive with no queen and laying workers. The multiple eggs per cell is the dead-givaway. The other sign is that drones are being raised in worker cells. Makes a frame look like the bees went insane. I just "cured" a hive like that myself yesterday. Sadly, the hive was in the one apiary that I had waited late to do a "spring cleaning," so the drone brood was already hatching. I had opened the top of the hive several times and looked for broodnest activity in the top box, which of course there was. Recently though, I noticed few foragers coming and going. The "cure" was to take the drone-laying hive about 200 yards away, shake all the bees off the frames, then leave. I put a 1-week-old nuc on the hivestand where the drone-layer was. As told on this newsgroup and elsewhere, the drone-layers won't be able to fly back to the hive. The foraging force will, and hopefully will become part of the new nuc's foraging force. In my experience, the bees don't fly back to the old hivestand. They stay with their brood boxes and try to defend them. What a mess! Imagine loading boxes covered with clusters of angry bees in the back of your pickup. A fair number seemed to decide my pickup was the place to cluster. I drove around the field a couple times and it seemed that most headed back to their old hive spot when I drove past it. It all took way too much time, and I did'nt finish the rest of the afternoon's bee chores (removing Apistan strips). What do you commercial guys do with a drone-laying hive, that's quicker than this method? Article 24637 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!ptdnetP!newsgate.ptd.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: asiray0a@my-deja.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Need Explanation Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 17:10:10 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 18 Message-ID: <8ekdp5$gln$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.80.192.151 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon May 01 17:10:10 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x31.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 198.80.192.151 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDasiray0a Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24637 Hi guys, One of my friends asked me a question that I have no answer for, so if someone can give help me with it. The guy is wondering whither the honey that we import is pure natural honey or artificial (i.e. Languiniza honey imported from germany). If it is natural he is wondering about the price why is it very low compared to what we have here, its more than ten times the price of the imported one. And the high production of honey in these countries should not lower the price by this factor. So, if any one has an explanation for this, it would be greatly appreciated. Regards, Aziz ==== Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 24638 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!wn3feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.19!wnmasters2!bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "George Styer" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Honey as herbicide Lines: 20 Organization: Productive Solutions X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 17:14:13 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.72.51.206 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 957201253 12.72.51.206 (Mon, 01 May 2000 17:14:13 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 17:14:13 GMT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24638 I have been meaning to post this for some time now. Last fall I was rinsing some extracting equipment out on an area of lawn where I had a sump drain. To my horror, about a 8ft diameter of the lawn around the drain had turned brown, indeed died as if it had been sprayed with RoundUp only a lot faster. This was a very diluted concentration of honey. The lawn never did come back and I finally re-seeded it recently. The seed came up fine. Has anyone else experienced this and if so what is the property of the honey that would cause this. -- Geo Sacramento, in California's great Central Valley "Honey is sweet but the bee stings" gstyLer@worldnet.att.net To respond via email, get the "L" out of there Article 24639 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!europa.netcrusader.net!152.163.239.131!portc03.blue.aol.com!portc.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: beecrofter@aol.comBee (BeeCrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey as herbicide Lines: 9 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 01 May 2000 17:41:41 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000501134141.10665.00000836@ng-cu1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24639 Honey is acid Sugar ties up available soil nitrogen in bacteria Tom There is an extra Bee in the Email address after the AOL.com Article 24640 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!easynews!sn-xit-02!supernews.com!sn-inject-01!WReNclone!WReNphoon3.POSTED!WReN!not-for-mail From: yosi_sarid Subject: colony union Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Message-ID: <0221c012.ef5dab46@usw-ex0109-068.remarq.com> Lines: 6 Bytes: 239 X-Originating-Host: 213.8.216.158 Organization: http://www.remarq.com: The World's Usenet/Discussions Start Here X-Wren-Trace: eOzJ4eD5vvS/tff34JP+5Ozf5ujh6bq05+X3oez0tf6yueK1rP6otK68vbE= Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 10:41:56 -0700 NNTP-Posting-Host: 10.0.2.68 X-Complaints-To: wrenabuse@remarq.com X-Trace: WReNphoon3 957204172 10.0.2.68 (Mon, 01 May 2000 11:02:52 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 11:02:52 PDT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24640 Hello all I need a methode for having unity 2 mediume colonys into 1 big colony. * Sent from AltaVista http://www.altavista.com Where you can also find related Web Pages, Images, Audios, Videos, News, and Shopping. Smart is Beautiful Article 24641 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!portc.blue.aol.com!news.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!not-for-mail From: "Vicky Campbell" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Brood frames Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 19:57:45 +0100 Organization: CompuServe Interactive Services Lines: 10 Message-ID: <8ekk0s$rpt$1@ssauraaa-i-1.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lon-qbu-bsg-vty104.as.wcom.net X-Trace: ssauraaa-i-1.production.compuserve.com 957207388 28477 195.232.121.104 (1 May 2000 18:56:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@compuserve.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 May 2000 18:56:28 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24641 My brood chambers are now quite full with brood and I need to remove some frames and put in new frames to make some space. What can I do with the old frames? I was thinking of putting a brood chamber on top of the crown board and putting the old frames in this with dummy boards around them to make a kind of mini nucleus, is this a good idea, or will it lead to problems? Thanks Vicky Article 24642 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: orangerose@aol.com (Orangerose) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bee Eater(Multi-Colored Bird) Lines: 49 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder07.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 01 May 2000 18:59:21 GMT References: <390bfc40@pink.one.net.au> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000501145921.25496.00000784@ng-df1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24642 Not being a beekeeper and not living on a continent where Bee-eaters live, I have only advice that comes from my experience as a horticulturalist. But, since no one has mentioned these methods of bird control, I will. First: most birds are afraid of fire. You can mimic fire by hanging streamers of mylar or other shiny material from poles to twist and sparkle in the wind. You can either hang them from individual poles or from a wire hung between poles. Like most deterrents, this will not work forever--the birds get used to it. So it is best to rotate this with some other forms of deterrence. Hawk-shaped kites, false owls, even scarecrows will all work on some birds for at least a short time. Cannons mentioned by another poster are also effective for a short time, but may disturb your neighbors (if you have any). The key is to understand your pest. If you know when they are breeding, you know when they are most likely looking for protein (insects). Do these birds *only* eat bees? Or do they have other food sources that they go to when bees are lacking? Sometimes, if you can offer birds another food source that is easier to get, then they will not bother your crop. For example, cherry farmers sometimes grow mulberries--which bloom and fruit at the same time as cherries--as a bait crop to keep the birds out of the cherries. If there were something other than bees you could cultivate for the birds, you might be able to keep them away from the hives, particularly if you made the hives harder to get to. In addition, the deterrents mentioned above will be best used when the birds are most active--instead of all the time. Now, I know bees are flying all about, but is not the main problem with birds close to the hive where the bees are in greater density? You could hang bird netting in a large cage around the hive. No doubt the bees could navigate through the openings. Some bees would still get eaten, but fewer than with no barriers. Finally, as a last resort, I would say that you could try to find another location a few miles from where you have your hives presently. You could move them for a season or so until you have basically starved out the colony (assuming bees are their main source of food) then move them back. Probably you will have attracted another colony to the alternate site at this point, so it will be time to move anyway. Once again, I must attach the disclaimer--I'm not a beekeeper, I live in North America, and I am only extrapolating information from handling other pest birds. If anyone has information that I missed or assumed wrongly, please feel free to comment. trying to be helpful, Kelly Article 24643 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!ptdnetP!ptdnetS!newsgate.ptd.net!nnrp1.ptd.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Royal W. Draper" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Honey loan deficiency program to be reinstated? Lines: 15 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Message-ID: Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 19:19:01 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.186.180.199 X-Complaints-To: abuse@ptd.net X-Trace: nnrp1.ptd.net 957208741 204.186.180.199 (Mon, 01 May 2000 15:19:01 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 15:19:01 EDT Organization: PenTeleData http://www.ptd.net Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24643 We received a letter today about the possibility of the honey loan deficiency program being reinstated. All beekeepers should read this! Follow the link below to go directly to the article, once there if you want to return to the regular frames view click on the home button. You can print it out or I can send you a notepad version just send me your email address. http://www.draperbee.com/info/hot%20topics.htm Royal W. Draper Draper's Super Bee Apiaries, Inc. 800-233-4273 draperb@ptd.net www.draperbee.com Article 24644 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Larry W" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <8e8r2i$6pf$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Subject: Re: Bee Eater(Multi-Colored Bird) Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 15:12:59 -0500 Lines: 37 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.24.176.81 Message-ID: <390de4ac_1@news.vic.com> X-Trace: 1 May 2000 16:10:20 -0400, 208.24.176.81 Organization: Newsville.Com (http://www.newsville.com) Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!news.vic.com!208.24.176.81 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24644 Asiray sent me a picture of those birds and I put it on a web site so you can see what they look like. http://www.asicgmbh.com/ebay/beebird.JPG Larry wrote in message news:8e8r2i$6pf$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > Since a week ago and still this bird giving me headache. I almost lost my > mind because they are attack my hive in groups of approx. thirty of them. I > realized that the hive population reduce dramatically even though it was > strong and had good build-up during early spring. When the birds appear the > bees activities greatly stopped. no bee in no bees out. I believe that bees > sense the bird and are afraid to go for nectar. > > Do any body have experience with such birds? How to get red of them? Do not > tell me change the hive location since it is impossible to do that for many > reasons. > > I glad to read from you. > Best wishes > You can reach me on of the following addresses: > asiray0a@anet.net.sa > asiray0a@hotmail.com > asiray0@mail.com > asiray0a@aramco.com.sa > abcdef_sa_2000@yahoo.com > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. Article 24645 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: kamtout@together.net Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Brood frames Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 20:50:01 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 31 Message-ID: <8ekqlh$vvi$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <8ekk0s$rpt$1@ssauraaa-i-1.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.144.236.186 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon May 01 20:50:01 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.72 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x35.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 199.144.236.186 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDkamtout Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24645 I'm curious why you feel the need to cull the box of brood(and future bees) and then replace the brood with 'new' frames. Lots of brood is generally a good thing! If you feel very strongly that they simply don't have anymore room for brood, put another deep with frames on. Or another super anyway. The bee population isn't always going to be running so high in production of new ones. If you think they are too big give 2 or 3 frames to a colony that needs help. Otherwise treat such a queen as a gift. enjoy, Mike In article <8ekk0s$rpt$1@ssauraaa-i-1.production.compuserve.com>, "Vicky Campbell" wrote: > My brood chambers are now quite full with brood and I need to remove some > frames and put in new frames to make some space. > What can I do with the old frames? > I was thinking of putting a brood chamber on top of the crown board and > putting the old frames in this with dummy boards around them to make a kind > of mini nucleus, is this a good idea, or will it lead to problems? > Thanks > Vicky > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 24646 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.idt.net!attmtf!att542!att541!ip.att.net!news.smartworld.net!not-for-mail From: "Allen Dick" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Indoor Bees Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 14:38:34 -0600 Organization: Smart Lines: 19 Sender: allendick@freewwweb.com@*@cust61.tnt1.dial.cal1.uunet.ca Message-ID: <8ekpkq$dsj$2@news.smartworld.net> References: <390C4D53.187C1C96@istar.ca> Reply-To: "Allen Dick" NNTP-Posting-Host: cust61.tnt1.dial.cal1.uunet.ca X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4029.2901 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4029.2901 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24646 > At the Nova Scotia Museum of Natural History, they have an indoor > beehive. The hive is inclosed in glass... > Anyone else seen hives like this? Visit http://www.internode.net/HoneyBee/ and choose the 'Observation Hive' link. AFAIK, I have links to all the best observation hive websites and dealers there, but if anyone knows of some I've missed, please let me know. allen --- Diary and pictures at http://www.internode.net/HoneyBee/ Currently: cell size, worker bee size, package installation, winter loss, fondant feeding, Pierco vs. Permadent, wrapping bees, AFB, varroa, protein patties and more... Article 24647 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!europa.netcrusader.net!194.176.220.129!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.icl.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!newspost.theplanet.net!not-for-mail From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Indoor Bees Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 22:46:38 +0100 Organization: Customer of Planet Online Lines: 27 Message-ID: <8ekuq3$sui$4@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk> References: <390C4D53.187C1C96@istar.ca> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-162.lithium.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk 957218435 29650 62.136.2.162 (1 May 2000 22:00:35 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 May 2000 22:00:35 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24647 Yes - very common in England. I have managed one in the Butterfly Farm in Stratford-upon-Avon for some years (not occupied at present), there is one in Warwick museum, but the best ones are probably those at Quince Honey farm, South Molton, Devon. "Simon de Vet" wrote in message news:390C4D53.187C1C96@istar.ca... > At the Nova Scotia Museum of Natural History, they have an indoor > beehive. The hive is inclosed in glass, and is thin enough to be able to > ee all the bees all the time. A glass tube yeads from the hive out the > wall. > > This is facinating to watch. You can see the bees doing their little > dance. You can see them coming in and out. When winter comes, and bees > die, you can see them being dragged to the exit and dropped onto the > ground. > > Anyone else seen hives like this? > > Anyone have one of their own? :) > > Simon > Article 24648 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.axxsys.net!news.idt.net!attmtf!att542!att541!ip.att.net!news.smartworld.net!not-for-mail From: "Allen Dick" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: NZ Beekeeping Assoc recommends destruction Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 14:28:38 -0600 Organization: Smart Lines: 50 Sender: allendick@freewwweb.com@*@cust61.tnt1.dial.cal1.uunet.ca Message-ID: <8ekpkn$dsj$1@news.smartworld.net> References: <8e2dfs$n0j$1@news.wave.co.nz> <8e9ek6$6tq$2@news.smartworld.net> <8eettp$o79$1@news.smartworld.net> Reply-To: "Allen Dick" NNTP-Posting-Host: cust61.tnt1.dial.cal1.uunet.ca X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4029.2901 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4029.2901 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24648 > What odds are you offering for those bets? Five'll get you ten, but I want to see your money. > I hear suggestions that varroa clearance by hive destruction will have to > be repeated at 5 year intervals forever. Yes. Nobody knows how varroa got there, so how can they think it will not come back in the remote chance that they eliminate it? I've been quiet about this and no one else has dared to bring it up, but who knows that the varroa wasn't introduced deliberately? Some in NZ have been immodestly bragging about their (lucky) status -- and by inference knocking all the other beekeepers of the world and their products. One does not make friends that way. Don't get me wrong. I don't advocate such acts, but I'm not unaware that there is a little bad feeling towards NZ. (NOT from me. FWIW, years ago, I hosted the first NZ web pages for free for some time until they got reasonably priced web hosting facilities). > Cynical observers might suggest that MAF apiary > inspectors had a vested interest in keeping AFB going to keep their jobs > going. You don't have ro be all that cynical to think the fox is running the hen house, and not just in NZ. > Those same cynical observers could claim at least the AFB PMS might work > now if varroa forces the lazy and incompetent beekeepers out of the > trade... If they put enough beekeepers out of business, no one will care about varroa. I bought the Van Eaton AFB book, and have always intended to write an article about how the AFB project won't work either, but have not had the time. Here again, I hope it does work, but doubt it will. allen --- Look over my shoulder... Diary and pictures at http://www.internode.net/HoneyBee/Diary/ Currently: cell size, worker bee size, package installation, winter loss, fondant feeding, Pierco vs. Permadent, wrapping bees, AFB, varroa, protein patties and much more... Article 24649 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.algonet.se!algonet!bignews.mediaways.net!newscore.gigabell.net!news.okay.net!not-for-mail From: Maier_egon@heilbronn-neckar.de (Egon Maier) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: www.agroweb-hispana.com Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 21:54:46 GMT Organization: Okay.Net Newsserver @ Gigabell Lines: 25 Message-ID: <390df6a3.2340538@news.myOKAY.NET> References: <390cdac0.9045244@news.myOKAY.NET> <20000430231313.08509.00000524@ng-cs1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.29.53.193 X-Trace: news.okay.net 957218128 16236 194.29.53.193 (1 May 2000 21:55:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: Okay.Net Abuse Team NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 May 2000 21:55:28 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24649 On 01 May 2000 03:13:13 GMT, pollinator@aol.comnospam (Dave Green) wrote: >>Hola Javier, >> >>donde es pagina con abelhas ??? >> > >busqueda "abejas" > > >Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA >The Pollination Home Page: http://pollinator.com > >Jan's Sweetness and Light Shop (Varietal Honeys and Beeswax Candles) >http://users.aol.com/SweetnessL/sweetlit.htm Hi thanx, but i ask for the bee-pages on agroweb-hispana.com PS http://users.aol.com/SweetnessL/sweetlit.htm DOESN´T WORK http://pollinator.com works fine and was a good tip. Thanx Article 24650 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!news.eecis.udel.edu!netnews.com!newsfeed.icl.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!newspost.theplanet.net!not-for-mail From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: multi eggs per cell? Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 22:34:43 +0100 Organization: Customer of Planet Online Lines: 21 Message-ID: <8ekuq1$sui$2@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk> References: <8ek8oc$an8$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <20000501130218.22329.00001733@ng-md1.aol.com> <390dbe8b.1022703@news1.radix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-162.lithium.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk 957218433 29650 62.136.2.162 (1 May 2000 22:00:33 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 May 2000 22:00:33 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24650 Agree with you Greg - I have also found that vigorous newly mated queens in nucs will lay multiple eggs in cells if there are not enough cells available for them; move the nuc into a full broood box and they lay normally. wrote in message news:390dbe8b.1022703@news1.radix.net... > On 01 May 2000 17:02:18 GMT, jmitc1014@aol.com (JMitc1014) wrote: > > >You have a hive with no queen and laying workers. The multiple eggs per cell is > >the dead-givaway. The other sign is that drones are being raised in worker > >cells. Makes a frame look like the bees went insane. > > NOT TRUE! Some new queens have to learn to lay one egg per cell. > It can sometimes take them a week to get it right. Ya just never know > with bees. > > Greg the beekeep > Article 24651 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!europa.netcrusader.net!194.176.220.129!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.icl.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!newspost.theplanet.net!not-for-mail From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Hive paint Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 22:36:15 +0100 Organization: Customer of Planet Online Lines: 43 Message-ID: <8ekuq2$sui$3@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk> References: <390af765@news.gj.net> <8ek7bm$99d$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-162.lithium.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk 957218434 29650 62.136.2.162 (1 May 2000 22:00:34 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 May 2000 22:00:34 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24651 Many postings on this subject 18-20 June last year. "Glenn West" wrote in message news:8ek7bm$99d$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > In article <390af765@news.gj.net>, > bdigman@cyberport.com wrote: > > All, > > I can't believe there's a hive sitting on my front porch. I > > procrastinated for years, thumbing through catalogs and reading > > beekeeping books. A couple of weeks ago a fellow stops by the office > > on his way to an elementary school to do a presentation on bees. He > > has a brand new package of bees with a neat little queen in a cage and > > a shiny new hive in the back of his pickup. I started some sort of > > primordial drool. Bees. Honey. Twenty minutes later the lady on the > > phone is asking for the expiration date on my credit card. This > > craving must be worse than crack. > > My first question is about paint. I see "Beehive Paint" in the > > catalogs, but I also see what appears to be regular acrylic flat latex > > offered. Can I use regular acrylic from Bubba's corner hardware store > > to paint the hive? Thanks. > > Sure. I use an exterior waterbased primer. I buy the exterior flat > latex topcoat for $1 a quart from the "returned" bin at Lowes or Home > Depot. You'll be amazed at how many hive bodies you can paint with a > quart of paint. Using light colors will keep the hives coolest in the > summer. > > > > > P.S. Is there a pamphlet with some generally acceptable answers > to > > such questiions from wives such as "What the hell is a > > 3-frame-hand-crank-extractor and why is it more important than new > > kitchen curtains?" Thanks again. > > > > Barry > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. Article 24652 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!EU.net!blackbush.xlink.net!newscore.gigabell.net!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!newspost.theplanet.net!not-for-mail From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Honey as herbicide Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 22:31:04 +0100 Organization: Customer of Planet Online Lines: 15 Message-ID: <8ekuq0$sui$1@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk> References: <20000501134141.10665.00000836@ng-cu1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-162.lithium.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk 957218432 29650 62.136.2.162 (1 May 2000 22:00:32 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 May 2000 22:00:32 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24652 ...and attracts lots of robbing bees! "BeeCrofter" wrote in message news:20000501134141.10665.00000836@ng-cu1.aol.com... > Honey is acid > Sugar ties up available soil nitrogen in bacteria > > > Tom > > > > There is an extra Bee in the Email address after the AOL.com Article 24653 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!europa.netcrusader.net!194.176.220.129!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.icl.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!newspost.theplanet.net!not-for-mail From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: biocontrol for ahb? Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 22:49:24 +0100 Organization: Customer of Planet Online Lines: 13 Message-ID: <8ekuq4$sui$5@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk> References: <20000427222501.10659.00000133@ng-cu1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-162.lithium.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk 957218436 29650 62.136.2.162 (1 May 2000 22:00:36 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 May 2000 22:00:36 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24653 Cape bees have been introduced into Germany for research purposes. Not the brightest idea in my opinion. "JMitc1014" wrote in message news:20000427222501.10659.00000133@ng-cu1.aol.com... > Cape bees are not bio control for africanized honey bees. They may be a > worst pest for beekeepers than AHB, since they cause honeybee colonies, > European and African, to go haywire and self destruct. > God help us all if some misguided fool ever decides to introduce the Cape > bee in Europe, America (North or South), Australia, or elsewhere. Article 24654 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!europa.netcrusader.net!194.176.220.129!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.icl.net!diablo.theplanet.net!news.theplanet.net!newspost.theplanet.net!not-for-mail From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Varroa control Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 23:00:17 +0100 Organization: Customer of Planet Online Lines: 19 Message-ID: <8ekuq5$sui$6@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: modem-162.lithium.dialup.pol.co.uk X-Trace: newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk 957218437 29650 62.136.2.162 (1 May 2000 22:00:37 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 May 2000 22:00:37 GMT X-Complaints-To: abuse@theplanet.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24654 I am rather surprised that the latest developments in varroa control do not seem to have reached this group yet. Briefly: Vita (Europe) Ltd announced at the Stoneleigh Convention that they are introducing Pherovar in November. This is a pheromone (delivered in a small plastic plug which is pinned in the hive) which stops varroa entering cells to breed. Apparently, they are also working on controlling AFB with a bacterium which attacks it. I have also learnt recently that research is underway to control varroa with pathogenic fungi; apparently other types of mites on crops grown in glasshouses are well controlled in this way at present and there seems to be no reason why varroa could not be similarly controlled. There seems to light at the end of the tunnel! Article 24655 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: rec01rec@my-deja.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Combining? Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 22:33:58 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 21 Message-ID: <8el0om$6q3$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.147.175.138 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon May 01 22:33:58 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x28.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 24.147.175.138 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDrec01rec Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24655 I installed some package bees a few weeks ago, they didn't do so good...they sort of look alive now that the weather is better, but even though they move around and a few make it to the front to hang out they are not out and flying on sunny days. (I open the lid and they crawl around a little, that's all, on a sunny 60 degree day). The queen didn't make it...I sprayed them lightly with sugar a few days ago fearing they were starving due to the previous cold (they weren't eating out of the jar)... Are they goners? Should I order another queen or a complete package. (I don't want to give up...it looks like a fun hobby). Is there any hope these barely moving bees will come back? If I order new ones and these come back can they be joined? Thanks, Ron E. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 24656 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!kilty.demon.co.uk!honeymountain From: James Kilty Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: NZ Beekeeping Assoc recommends destruction Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 21:47:55 +0100 Message-ID: References: <8e2dfs$n0j$1@news.wave.co.nz> <8e9ek6$6tq$2@news.smartworld.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: kilty.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: kilty.demon.co.uk:193.237.253.225 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 957221209 nnrp-07:22555 NO-IDENT kilty.demon.co.uk:193.237.253.225 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Lines: 38 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24656 In article , Peter Kerr writes >Hmm, it could just work, given that the area is geographically small, so >far well defined, doesn't have a massive population of inaccessible feral >hives. Of course there are feral colonies, but visible and accessible, >easy to destroy. Of course it will work. The price will be all beekeepers hives for *several* years as you track down all colonies feral or kept and keep tracking to be sure. In a couple of years you'll have to determine that there are *no* honeybees anywhere on the island and when you find one, you'll have to follow it to it's colony. There will always be some that are difficult to find. To be sure, you'll have to keep adding years on to the original thought. The cost to search and destroy will also be high. Will there be compensation for the beekeepers income? Can you guarantee that no further varroa will come in on a ship? Will beekeepers want to start from scratch again? Will you search the imported colonies to 100% exclude varroa? How will your kiwi fruit exporters pollinate their crops? Add up the cost. I suggest the price is too high chasing a dream. Most of us in this newsgroup live with it. In fact, it seems that the new standards of beekeeping actually improve the bees and the harvest. >I've been reading some of the claims for essential oils, and drone brood >combs. Plausible, but, they would take discipline and dedication, precise >dosing and timing. If NZ beekeepers were able to do this, how come they >haven't got rid of AFB in the past 100 years? You have implied a connection between your statements and an unstated conclusion. Ask a logician in your University to point this out. >Varroa has arrived just as the NBA was swinging into action with the PMS >to get rid of AFB by infected hive destruction. Killing two birds with the >one stone may not be such a silly idea... There are not two birds here. On the one hand you will kill hives with proven AFB as we do here in the UK. This will reduce the infection rate down to a low % but not eradicate it. On the other, you will have to kill 100% of all colonies probably on both islands. So you won't have any AFB at all. Hooray! -- James Kilty Article 24657 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!europa.netcrusader.net!194.176.220.129!newsfeed.icl.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!kilty.demon.co.uk!honeymountain From: James Kilty Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Mean Bees Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 21:58:36 +0100 Message-ID: References: <8e9dmk$66u$1@news.smartworld.net> <17239-3908776A-22@storefull-104.iap.bryant.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: kilty.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: kilty.demon.co.uk:193.237.253.225 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 957221210 nnrp-07:22555 NO-IDENT kilty.demon.co.uk:193.237.253.225 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Lines: 18 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24657 In article <17239-3908776A-22@storefull-104.iap.bryant.webtv.net>, Hank Mishima writes >Allen, > >Is there some published research on allergic reactions in regard to >being stung (as a prophylactic measure) as well as those close to bees >having a higher rate of allergic reactions if not stung? Try Croft L. R., Allergy to Bee Stings, Bee Books New and Old 1988 and Frankland A. W., Bee Sting Allergy, IBRA 1976 and Riches H. R. Hypersensitivity to Bee Venom IBRA 1982 and Riches H. R. Recent Problems in the Treatment of Bee Venom Allergy, Central Association 1990 I don't have the books in front of me so I cannot check out the precise information you want. -- James Kilty Article 24658 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!kilty.demon.co.uk!honeymountain From: James Kilty Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Egg Laying Workers Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 22:23:50 +0100 Message-ID: <2i+8yPAmXfD5EwRF@kilty.demon.co.uk> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: kilty.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: kilty.demon.co.uk:193.237.253.225 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 957221211 nnrp-07:22555 NO-IDENT kilty.demon.co.uk:193.237.253.225 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Lines: 25 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24658 In article , Charles "Stretch" Ledford writes >worker bee laying eggs. > >I'm curious about this phenomenon. How does it happen? Workers have ovaries since they are female. They are *very* underdeveloped since to develop them fully, queens are given *much* more of a more concentrated food which gets them much bigger before they change to adult. Think of it like there are two sets of cells in the egg, those that make the larva and the adult cells which wait a while and grow as if by feeding off the larva which acts as a store of food. Queens have a big enough larva to trigger the development of the ovaries. So, workers *can* lay eggs when there is no queen to suppress that activity by specific pheromones. They cannot lay very many and tend to lay them all over the cell and several in the one cell. > Does she lay >drones or workers? Normally and with most races these contain only one set of chromosomes, so they produce males. On occasion workers can lay a viable female (with two sets of chromosomes). This is rare in most races but common with A.m.capensis. >Any comments from the cognicenti? You'd better ask them. -- James Kilty Article 24659 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!EU.net!blackbush.xlink.net!uni-erlangen.de!newsfeeds.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!news-x.support.nl!bullseye.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!kilty.demon.co.uk!honeymountain From: James Kilty Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: NZ Beekeeping Assoc recommends destruction Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 23:45:57 +0100 Message-ID: References: <8e2dfs$n0j$1@news.wave.co.nz> <8ecv6u$ah8$3@front5m.grolier.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: kilty.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: kilty.demon.co.uk:193.237.253.225 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 957221213 nnrp-07:22555 NO-IDENT kilty.demon.co.uk:193.237.253.225 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Lines: 11 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24659 In article <8ecv6u$ah8$3@front5m.grolier.fr>, apipop writes >Hi everybody, >What about bumble-bees ? In our French beekeeper's forum it was lately >posted that one found a big bumble-bee in bad shape with 5 varroas on >his back!!. Has this beekeeper confirmed it was varroa absolutely and verified by other people with samples kept for examination? Bumble-bees can carry a load of parasites. -- James Kilty Article 24660 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: kamtout@together.net Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: They Live! Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 23:02:43 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 29 Message-ID: <8el2e9$8pi$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <8ehtjv$sbe$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.91.3.190 X-Article-Creation-Date: Mon May 01 23:02:43 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.5 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x40.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 209.91.3.190 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDkamtout Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24660 ? Isn't that how the rest of the bees looked earlier? The queens that I've seen don't hold THAT still. she should be walking or running. Unless of course it's ten degrees outside and you're in there poking around. Is it possible the combs in this hive were treated with something that is having an effect on the bees? I've looked at bees in the late fall and never had much question whether they were alive or not. Even if it was only 20F outside. Where are you and what's the weather like now? Get two hives going and you can have something to compare the other to. Good luck. Mike In article <8ehtjv$sbe$1@nnrp1.deja.com>, rec01rec@my-deja.com wrote: > FYI for anyone who read the are my bees dead message...they are > alive...crawling around out front today, etc. Queen looks dead but the > rest are moving... > > Ron E. > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 24661 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!cyclone.swbell.net!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!216.218.192.242!news.he.net!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!sn-inject-01!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "Teri Bachus" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Varroa control Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 19:33:36 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <8ekuq5$sui$6@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk> X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24661 thanks for the tip...can you give us some more details and/or source references? "Peter Edwards" wrote in message news:8ekuq5$sui$6@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk... > I am rather surprised that the latest developments in varroa control do not > seem to have reached this group yet. > > Briefly: > > Vita (Europe) Ltd announced at the Stoneleigh Convention that they are > introducing Pherovar in November. This is a pheromone (delivered in a small > plastic plug which is pinned in the hive) which stops varroa entering cells > to breed. Apparently, they are also working on controlling AFB with a > bacterium which attacks it. > > I have also learnt recently that research is underway to control varroa with > pathogenic fungi; apparently other types of mites on crops grown in > glasshouses are well controlled in this way at present and there seems to be > no reason why varroa could not be similarly controlled. > > There seems to light at the end of the tunnel! Article 24662 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: p.kerr@auckland.ac.nz (Peter Kerr) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: NZ Beekeeping Assoc recommends destruction Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 12:12:41 +1200 Organization: University of Auckland Lines: 34 Message-ID: References: <8e2dfs$n0j$1@news.wave.co.nz> <8e9ek6$6tq$2@news.smartworld.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p.kerr.mus.auckland.ac.nz X-Trace: scream.auckland.ac.nz 957226253 16870 130.216.90.132 (2 May 2000 00:10:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@auckland.ac.nz NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 May 2000 00:10:53 GMT X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.2.0b6 Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!usenet.net.nz!news.iprolink.co.nz!auckland.ac.nz!p.kerr Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24662 In article , James Kilty wrote: > Of course it will work. The price will be all beekeepers hives for > *several* years as you track down all colonies feral or kept and keep > tracking to be sure. In a couple of years you'll have to determine that > there are *no* honeybees anywhere on the island and when you find one, > you'll have to follow it to it's colony. There will always be some that > are difficult to find. To be sure, you'll have to keep adding years on > to the original thought. The cost to search and destroy will also be > high. Will there be compensation for the beekeepers income? It did occurr to me that re-employing beekeepers for the search and destroy operation would have some social justice, but is that what we're talking about? > Can you > guarantee that no further varroa will come in on a ship? Will beekeepers > want to start from scratch again? Will you search the imported colonies > to 100% exclude varroa? Wonderful thing about modern transport: it has turned the whole planet into a massive uncontrolled ecological experiment... > How will your kiwi fruit exporters pollinate > their crops? Add up the cost. When I last looked at the figures, $/tonne of crop, mechanical pollination was almost down to beehives cost, and produced more uniform sized and shaped fruit. -- Peter Kerr School of Music University of Auckland Article 24663 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.he.net!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!sn-inject-01!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: kent stienburg Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Combining? Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 21:13:28 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 7 Message-ID: <390E2BB8.8A213016@kingston.net> References: <8el0om$6q3$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Reply-To: beeman@kingston.net X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Sender: "kent stienburg" <@mail.kingston.net> (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-CCK-MCD IKEzilla/2 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24663 Hi Ron, If the queen is gone, you need to replace her quickly. It depends on how fast you can get a queen if you will order a package as well. Kent Article 24664 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.new-york.net!newspeer1.nac.net!news.he.net!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!sn-inject-01!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: kent stienburg Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Brood frames Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 21:10:19 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 6 Message-ID: <390E2AFB.A8CE1A64@kingston.net> References: <8ekk0s$rpt$1@ssauraaa-i-1.production.compuserve.com> Reply-To: beeman@kingston.net X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Sender: "kent stienburg" <@mail.kingston.net> (Unverified) X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en]C-CCK-MCD IKEzilla/2 (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24664 Hi Vicky, I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to accomplish. More space for brood or replacing old brood frames? Kent Article 24665 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.voicenet.com!newsxfer.visi.net!firenze.visi.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <390E3187.4C9E53B@visi.net.beesarecool> From: Thom Bradley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Need Explanation References: <8ekdp5$gln$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 24 Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 01:38:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp15.ts1-1.norfolk.visi.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 21:38:58 EST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24665 Myriad reasons, different governmental and economic systems, different levels of economic support, different levels of testing and purity, different management techniques. Thom asiray0a@my-deja.com wrote: > > Hi guys, > > One of my friends asked me a question that I have no answer for, so if > someone can give help me with it. The guy is wondering whither the honey that > we import is pure natural honey or artificial (i.e. Languiniza honey imported > from germany). If it is natural he is wondering about the price why is it > very low compared to what we have here, its more than ten times the price of > the imported one. And the high production of honey in these countries should > not lower the price by this factor. So, if any one has an explanation for > this, it would be greatly appreciated. > > Regards, > Aziz > ==== > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. Article 24666 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.atl!news1.atl.POSTED!not-for-mail From: beerich@bellsouth.net (Barry Richards) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Honeybee streaming video Reply-To: beerich@bellsouth.net Message-ID: <390e31f0.30636492@news.bna.bellsouth.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Lines: 18 Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 01:40:11 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.214.120.94 X-Trace: news1.atl 957231647 209.214.120.94 (Mon, 01 May 2000 21:40:47 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 21:40:47 EDT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24666 We've just added some pretty interesting streaming video files to the Nashville Area Beekeepers Association page, courtesy of Jeff Harris of the USDA-ARS in Baton Rouge. http://personal.bellsouth.net/~beerich Jeff narrates a clip on the life cycle of the honey bee and varroa mite. Dr. Jose' Villa narrates a clip showing bees exhibiting resistant behavior to tracheal mites made by Villa and Dr. Bob Danka. All the footage is shot through a microscope and presented in RealVideo format. While you are there sign our guest book and let us know if there are any links we should add to our site - we're pretty far behind on that. Thanks -Barry Richards Cross Plains, TN Article 24667 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!hermes.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!newsxfer.visi.net!firenze.visi.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <390E356D.A96CCDAD@visi.net.beesarecool> From: Thom Bradley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: NZ Beekeeping Assoc recommends destruction References: <8e2dfs$n0j$1@news.wave.co.nz> <8e9ek6$6tq$2@news.smartworld.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 6 Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 01:55:37 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp15.ts1-1.norfolk.visi.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 21:55:37 EST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24667 Peter Kerr wrote: > > > proficiency in vi > is a sign of a > mis-spent youth Peter I've never seen this and find it more amusing than it really should be. :) Thom Article 24668 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsxfer.visi.net!firenze.visi.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <390E3B58.B9226BFE@visi.net.beesarecool> From: Thom Bradley X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.6 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Drones come & go References: <8efft8$j4v$1@bob.news.rcn.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 18 Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 02:20:51 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp15.ts1-1.norfolk.visi.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 22:20:51 EST Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24668 Keith, Normal, drones will drift from hive to hive eating and waiting out the night and bad weather. Welcome to beekeeping in VA. For links to information to associations in VA sift through http://groups.hamptonroads.com/beekeepers Thom Bradley Tidewater Beekeepers Association Angela Copi wrote: > > First let me apologize if this is a stupid question, but I am just getting > started. I installed 2 5 frame nucs 8 days ago. This afternoon while > watching the activity at the two hives I noticed quit a few drones coming > and going from both of them. What are they doing? (I am in central > Virginia, Tulip Poplar is blooming and the bees seem very busy). > > Thanks, > > Keith Article 24669 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.slurp.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <390E40C0.E8B661CA@ckt.net> From: cpullman Reply-To: cpullman@ckt.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: swarm cells on new package Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 11 Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 21:43:12 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.42.89.6 X-Trace: newsfeed.slurp.net 957234800 209.42.89.6 (Mon, 01 May 2000 21:33:20 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 21:33:20 CDT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24669 Adding the extra hive body and frames are probably what the hive needed. Make sure there is larva in the hive that wanted to swarm, if there is than you don't need another queen, and removing the queen cells in my opinion was an ok thing to do. The entrance reducers can be removed whenever you think the hives are strong enough to control the in and outs of the hive. When the weather becomes hot, it is best to take measurements to help cool them down also. When there is plenty of nectar available bees we usually stop taking the sugar water. They should be starting on those second hive bodies you put on real quick. The cappings on those will be a pretty paper white.take care, Craig Article 24670 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!paloalto-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!webtv.net!not-for-mail From: tenmoku@webtv.net (Hank Mishima) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Mean Bees Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 19:31:21 -0700 (PDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Lines: 4 Message-ID: <5244-390E3DF9-56@storefull-108.iap.bryant.webtv.net> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRGNzxy3AcfrYsjwIXJI4cYZ+NGwAIUFTe4/9ZdFyy3poziaACfDXHOg9I= Content-Disposition: Inline Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24670 Thanks for the information! To contact your elected officials see www.vote-smart.org Article 24671 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!63.211.125.72!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!cyclone1.usenetserver.com!cyclone1.usenetserver.com!news-east.usenetserver.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Peter Amschel Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Test Message-ID: X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.30.1784 Lines: 1 X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Complaints-To: support@usenetserver.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 23:21:22 EDT Organization: WebUseNet Corp http://www.usenetserver.com - Home of the fastest NNTP servers on the Net. Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 20:18:15 -0700 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24671 Testing new Ordinateur Article 24672 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.he.net!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!sn-inject-01!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: AL Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: NZ Beekeeping Assoc recommends destruction Date: Mon, 01 May 2000 22:28:46 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Lines: 19 Message-ID: <390E4B6E.48A551C@midwest.net> References: <8e2dfs$n0j$1@news.wave.co.nz> <8e9ek6$6tq$2@news.smartworld.net> <390E356D.A96CCDAD@visi.net.beesarecool> X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24672 Thom Bradley wrote: > > Peter Kerr wrote: > > > > > > proficiency in vi > > is a sign of a > > mis-spent youth > > Peter I've never seen this and find it more amusing than it really > should be. > > :) Thom A characteristic of bitter truths - ah yes, and I remember my days of awking & grepping... AL Article 24673 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!europa.netcrusader.net!208.184.7.66!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!63.211.125.72!cyclone2.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!cyclone1.usenetserver.com!cyclone1.usenetserver.com!news-east.usenetserver.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Peter Amschel Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: test Message-ID: X-Newsreader: MicroPlanet Gravity v2.30.1784 Lines: 2 X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Complaints-To: support@usenetserver.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 01:28:58 EDT Organization: WebUseNet Corp http://www.usenetserver.com - Home of the fastest NNTP servers on the Net. Date: Mon, 1 May 2000 22:25:51 -0700 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24673 test test Got new equipment; will go online soon with DirecPC Article 24674 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!npeer.kpnqwest.net!news.bel.alcatel.be!news.bel.alcatel.be!not-for-mail From: Hugo Thone Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Varroa control Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 16:03:33 +0200 Organization: Alcatel Telecom Lines: 8 Message-ID: <390EE035.D3B033A7@se.bel.alcatel.be> References: <8ekuq5$sui$6@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: btmw10.se.bel.alcatel.be Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: bt02e2.god.bel.alcatel.be 957276213 13819 138.203.32.35 (2 May 2000 14:03:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.bel.alcatel.be NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 May 2000 14:03:33 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (X11; I; SunOS 5.6 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24674 go to http://www.beekeeping.com/vita/pherovar.htm -- Hugo Thone do bee do bee do ... IBM GLOBAL SERVICES (\ email : htho@se.bel.alcatel.be F.Wellesplein 1 {|||8- phone : (32) 3 240 94 52 B-2018 Antwerp (/ fax : (32) 3 240 99 49 Article 24675 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: asiray0a@my-deja.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bee Eater(Multi-Colored Bird) Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 15:41:40 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 44 Message-ID: <8emsvg$7s9$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <8e8r2i$6pf$1@nnrp1.deja.com> <390de4ac_1@news.vic.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.80.192.151 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue May 02 15:41:40 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x36.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 198.80.192.151 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDasiray0a Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24675 In article <390de4ac_1@news.vic.com>, "Larry W" wrote: > Asiray sent me a picture of those birds and I put it on a web site so you > can see what they look like. > > http://www.asicgmbh.com/ebay/beebird.JPG > Larry > > wrote in message news:8e8r2i$6pf$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > > Since a week ago and still this bird giving me headache. I almost lost my > > mind because they are attack my hive in groups of approx. thirty of them. > I > > realized that the hive population reduce dramatically even though it was > > strong and had good build-up during early spring. When the birds appear > the > > bees activities greatly stopped. no bee in no bees out. I believe that > bees > > sense the bird and are afraid to go for nectar. > > > > Do any body have experience with such birds? How to get red of them? Do > not > > tell me change the hive location since it is impossible to do that for > many > > reasons. > > > > I glad to read from you. > > Best wishes > > You can reach me on of the following addresses: > > asiray0a@anet.net.sa > > asiray0a@hotmail.com > > asiray0@mail.com > > asiray0a@aramco.com.sa > > abcdef_sa_2000@yahoo.com > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > > Before you buy. > > Sure once I get the chance, I will do. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 24676 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!portc.blue.aol.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: repbees@my-deja.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Queenless Hive Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 15:01:52 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 18 Message-ID: <8emqkk$58n$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 152.163.194.211 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue May 02 15:01:52 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; AOL 5.0; Windows 95; DigExt) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x29.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 152.163.194.211 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDrepbees Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24676 I have one hive that has many bees, but no sign of queen activity- I tried to introduce a purchased queen in a cage several weeks ago, but upon examination yesterday, there was still no sign of eggs, larvae, or brood- they seem to have been queenless for an extended time (maybe 3-4 weeks), yet are still storing honey. There seem to be an unsual number of bees that linger at the entrance to the hive continuously. I have a nuc with an active queen- can I take a frame with brood from the nuc along with the queen from it and introduce them to the queenless hive with any chance of them excepting her at this late date? There are so many bees in this hive I hate to just leave them to die out without some attempt to save it- Any help will be certainly welcome & appreciated -- repbees Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 24677 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!portc.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jmitc1014@aol.com (JMitc1014) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Combining? Lines: 2 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 02 May 2000 16:42:13 GMT References: <390E2BB8.8A213016@kingston.net> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000502124213.22707.00002154@ng-cg1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24677 You could try a package from a different supplier too. Gook luck! Article 24678 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!paloalto-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!webtv.net!not-for-mail From: tenmoku@webtv.net (Hank Mishima) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queenless Hive Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 09:38:58 -0700 (PDT) Organization: WebTV Subscriber Lines: 5 Message-ID: <24636-390F04A2-29@storefull-106.iap.bryant.webtv.net> References: <8emqkk$58n$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-WebTV-Signature: 1 ETAsAhRWa3tYRONrSjn0uTcocT7K+AplfgIUWxYbTAjhHCbh+oUjWIGIddpYI3Q= Content-Disposition: Inline Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24678 I haven't tried this but I would if I were in your situation. Should have a good chance of acceptance from all I have read. To contact your elected officials see www.vote-smart.org Article 24679 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.new-york.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: asiray0a@my-deja.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Varroa control Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 15:12:21 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 33 Message-ID: <8emr85$5vm$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <8ekuq5$sui$6@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.80.192.151 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue May 02 15:12:21 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x42.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 198.80.192.151 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDasiray0a Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24679 In article <8ekuq5$sui$6@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, "Peter Edwards" wrote: > I am rather surprised that the latest developments in varroa control do not > seem to have reached this group yet. > > Briefly: > > Vita (Europe) Ltd announced at the Stoneleigh Convention that they are > introducing Pherovar in November. This is a pheromone (delivered in a small > plastic plug which is pinned in the hive) which stops varroa entering cells > to breed. Apparently, they are also working on controlling AFB with a > bacterium which attacks it. > > I have also learnt recently that research is underway to control varroa with > pathogenic fungi; apparently other types of mites on crops grown in > glasshouses are well controlled in this way at present and there seems to be > no reason why varroa could not be similarly controlled. > > There seems to light at the end of the tunnel! Thanks Peter, This is a bit new. However, Is this new method of controlling the mite effective?. For the first mentioned method (small plastic plug), What is the idea? what is inside this plug? Are their any negative effects on human or bees? How is it compared to Apistan strips? Many questions since the subject is interesting? Could you please provide us with more info. or references that can complete the picture? God bliss you, Aziz Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 24680 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!hammer.uoregon.edu!newshub.northeast.verio.net!verio!europa.netcrusader.net!152.163.239.129!portc01.blue.aol.com!spamz.news.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: lklarson1@aol.com (LKLarson1) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: LIGURIAN BEES Lines: 2 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 02 May 2000 07:23:09 GMT References: Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000502032309.07405.00000788@ng-cl1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24680 Look up the Kangaroo Island beekeeping site--tells all about the history of Ligurian bees (originally from Italy). Article 24681 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!hammer.uoregon.edu!newshub.northeast.verio.net!verio!europa.netcrusader.net!152.163.239.129!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey05.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: lklarson1@aol.com (LKLarson1) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Mean Bees Lines: 4 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder06.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 02 May 2000 07:26:07 GMT References: <3905fad3.2079076@news1.radix.net> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Message-ID: <20000502032607.07405.00000789@ng-cl1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24681 No--don't give it up and Greg, you need a "brainwash" with your judgemental opinions, even if well-intentioned..... Article 24682 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!hammer.uoregon.edu!newshub.northeast.verio.net!verio!netnews.com!europa.netcrusader.net!152.163.239.131!portc03.blue.aol.com!portc.blue.aol.com!news.compuserve.com!news-master.compuserve.com!not-for-mail From: "Vicky Campbell" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Brood frames Date: Tue, 2 May 2000 09:38:14 +0100 Organization: CompuServe Interactive Services Lines: 41 Message-ID: <8em47j$r7o$1@ssauraaa-i-1.production.compuserve.com> References: <8ekk0s$rpt$1@ssauraaa-i-1.production.compuserve.com> <8ekqlh$vvi$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lon-qbu-bsk-vty34.as.wcom.net X-Trace: ssauraaa-i-1.production.compuserve.com 957256755 27896 195.232.125.34 (2 May 2000 08:39:15 GMT) X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@compuserve.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 May 2000 08:39:15 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2014.211 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2014.211 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24682 I want to stop the bees from becoming overcrowded and then swarming. Also I don't want to have too large a brood as I don't have so much time for checking the colony for queen cells, and extracting huge amounts of honey. I forgot to mention in my previous posting that the "mini nuke" would be above a super. Vicky wrote in message news:8ekqlh$vvi$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > I'm curious why you feel the need to cull the box of brood(and future > bees) and then replace the brood with 'new' frames. Lots of brood is > generally a good thing! > If you feel very strongly that they simply don't have anymore room for > brood, put another deep with frames on. Or another super anyway. > The bee population isn't always going to be running so high in > production of new ones. If you think they are too big give 2 or 3 frames > to a colony that needs help. Otherwise treat such a queen as a gift. > enjoy, > Mike > > > In article <8ekk0s$rpt$1@ssauraaa-i-1.production.compuserve.com>, > "Vicky Campbell" wrote: > > My brood chambers are now quite full with brood and I need to remove > some > > frames and put in new frames to make some space. > > What can I do with the old frames? > > I was thinking of putting a brood chamber on top of the crown board > and > > putting the old frames in this with dummy boards around them to make a > kind > > of mini nucleus, is this a good idea, or will it lead to problems? > > Thanks > > Vicky > > > > > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. Article 24683 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.new-york.net!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!dca1-feed4.news.digex.net!intermedia!news1.bms.com!not-for-mail From: Jesse Hunter Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: New Bees, Old Hive Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 13:47:39 -0400 Organization: Bristol-Myers Squibb Company Lines: 12 Message-ID: <390F14BB.AE366C88@bms.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: newsreader-hpw1.net.bms.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.5 [en]C-BMY (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en Cache-Post-Path: newsreader-hpw1.net.bms.com!unknown@140.176.168.99 X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24683 I lost a couple of my hives over the winter. I think due to starving as there was no honey near the dead cluster of bees. My question is this, can I put a new nuc in this same hive without cleaning it of the old honey? Also one of the hive had what appeared to be larvae in some of the cells, could this be wax moth? Thanks for the info. Jesse Article 24684 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jmitc1014@aol.com (JMitc1014) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Dragonflies in the apiary Lines: 17 NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder05.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 02 May 2000 19:57:09 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-ID: <20000502155709.14590.00002274@ng-ch1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24684 Last summer, I noticed dragonflies hovering and hunting over the hives at dusk at one site where I keep bees. They were maintaining a 20 to 30 foot altitude. The hives are in a clearing next to my relative’s home and the bees commonly fly straight up to go over the trees or the house. I spoke to a dragonfly researcher today. Dragonflies are very efficient insect hunters. They breed in wetlands, but often leave them to hunt elsewhere. Dragonflies, and especially a suborder she referred to as the “darners” are attracted to swarms and masses of flying insects, much the way predator fish are attracted to schools of smaller fish. And this is why you might find them flying over your apiaries. The number of bees they take is insignificant (judging from the honey production of those hives last summer), and I welcome their presence as they consume huge numbers of mosquitoes and flies—a great beneficial for your garden and yard. I’ll point the dragonflies out to my relatives this summer and explain what they do to pest species, which will be just another good reason to keep honeybees in the yard. Article 24685 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: kamtout@together.net Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Brood frames Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 18:30:37 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 52 Message-ID: <8en6sd$jsm$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <8ekk0s$rpt$1@ssauraaa-i-1.production.compuserve.com> <390E2AFB.A8CE1A64@kingston.net> <8em87e$f7s$1@ssauraab-i-1.production.compuserve.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.144.236.186 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue May 02 18:30:37 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.72 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x42.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 199.144.236.186 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDkamtout Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24685 I think I'm getting it now, but not entirely, but that's OK. that's my fault not yours. If only 1 hive is what we're talking about extracting HUGE amounts of honey probably won't be an issue. If you have a super duper great year you might go over 100lbs maybe even 200lbs. That's only a couple hours of hand cranking. I this part is a hassle then get someone else to spin a super and give it to them! You'll find takers I'm sure of it. Tell us how many frames in the old hive first. is it 9 or 10 in a deep box? If so, slap it on top and walk away! Keep it a 3 deep hive if you really must. If they swarm, guess what? you'll have fewer bees and less honey! they don't all leave when they swarm y'know. It just puts a big dent in the overall honey production.(That's what you're after) I think what might help is to go sit down and watch your hive for a while and rethink what it is you want to accomplish. You've handed us a rather problematic dilemna to try to answer. Honey's not a bad thing! Thanks for checking back in by the way, lots of time questions get asked and the asker vacates and we never know what went where 'n'stuff. Stop fretting and smell the nectar.... Mike In article <8em87e$f7s$1@ssauraab-i-1.production.compuserve.com>, "Vicky Campbell" wrote: > Hi Kent, > I'm mainly wanting to make space, but I do have some old frames in one hive > that I want to get rid off. > I'm just not sure what to do with the old frames. I don't just want to put > them in the rubbish bin! > Thanks > Vicky > kent stienburg wrote in message > news:390E2AFB.A8CE1A64@kingston.net... > > Hi Vicky, > > > > I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to accomplish. More space > > for brood or replacing old brood frames? > > > > Kent > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 24686 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!209.133.60.2.MISMATCH!localhost!news-out.cwix.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!rockie.attcanada.net!newsfeed.attcanada.net!204.127.161.4!wn4feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.19!wnmasters2!bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "George Styer" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <8emqkk$58n$1@nnrp1.deja.com> Subject: Re: Queenless Hive Lines: 36 Organization: Productive Solutions X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 19:04:22 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.72.203.33 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 957294262 12.72.203.33 (Tue, 02 May 2000 19:04:22 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 19:04:22 GMT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24686 Remove the queenless hive and put it about 15 ft (or more) from its current location. In its place put your queen-right nuc (in full size equipment if it is not already). Go back to the old hive and shake all the bees from each frame. They will fly up and join with the nuc at the old location. You can put the frames back into the new hive. Once thing settle down, you can start another nuc by splitting. -- Geo Sacramento, in California's great Central Valley "Honey is sweet but the bee stings" gstyLer@worldnet.att.net To reply via e-mail get the "L" out of there wrote in message news:8emqkk$58n$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > I have one hive that has many bees, but no sign of queen activity- I > tried to introduce a purchased queen in a cage several weeks ago, but > upon examination yesterday, there was still no sign of eggs, larvae, or > brood- they seem to have been queenless for an extended time (maybe 3-4 > weeks), yet are still storing honey. There seem to be an unsual number > of bees that linger at the entrance to the hive continuously. I have a > nuc with an active queen- can I take a frame with brood from the nuc > along with the queen from it and introduce them to the queenless hive > with any chance of them excepting her at this late date? There are so > many bees in this hive I hate to just leave them to die out without > some attempt to save it- Any help will be certainly welcome & > appreciated > -- > repbees > > > Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ > Before you buy. Article 24687 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: asiray0a@my-deja.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Queen Excluder Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 19:32:22 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 16 Message-ID: <8enag6$o39$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.80.192.151 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue May 02 19:32:22 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x25.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 198.80.192.151 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDasiray0a Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24687 HI everybody, When I opened my two boxes (brood and super) hive of hybird of Carniolan with Egyptian bees for inspection, I found brood on the top box eventhough there is an queen excluder between the boxes. The excluder spacing is 1/4". Have anybody experinced this before? Do any body have an explanation? Thanks, Aziz Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 24688 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: paul_bilodeau@my-deja.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: New Bees, Old Hive Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 19:25:49 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 27 Message-ID: <8ena39$ntm$1@nnrp1.deja.com> References: <390F14BB.AE366C88@bms.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.222.82.140 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue May 02 19:25:49 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.0; Windows 98; DigExt) X-Http-Proxy: 1.1 x30.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 209.222.82.140 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDpaul_bilodeau Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24688 > Jesse, I ran into the same problem this year... I had 2 hives that died. I simply opened up each hive and cleaned out all the dead bees. I also scraped off all the wax cappings that were scattered on the bottom board. Before installing a new package, I have been told, that you should clean out whatever you can easily get out (bees, wax cappings, debris, etc.) without damaging any of the comb. Sometimes you will find dead bees that have crawled into open cells. Sometimes you may find a little mold. I was told to "not worry about it" because the new bees will take over and clean the place up to their liking. As far as stored honey goes, leave it in the comb and install the new bees into it. This will give the new hive a healthy boost in production. Also, if the comb is in good shape, the new bees won't have to work as hard to draw out new comb for the Queen to start laying eggs in. One thing, If you have more than 1 hive body on each hive, strip out the best 10 frames (or 9 if you use 9 frame hives) and reduce the hive to 1 box. Install the new bees into this 1 box and add the second box after they have filled up the first one. You can also give the bees used frames containing honey in the second box. Good Luck, Paul Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 24689 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!ptdnetP!newsgate.ptd.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp2.deja.com!nnrp1.deja.com!not-for-mail From: asiray0a@my-deja.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Queen Excluder Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 19:29:05 GMT Organization: Deja.com - Before you buy. Lines: 14 Message-ID: <8ena9b$nvj$1@nnrp1.deja.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.80.192.151 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue May 02 19:29:05 2000 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.01; Windows 98) X-Http-Proxy: 1.0 x22.deja.com:80 (Squid/1.1.22) for client 198.80.192.151 X-MyDeja-Info: XMYDJUIDasiray0a Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24689 HI everybody, When I opened my two boxes (brood and super) hive of hybird of Carniolan with Egyptian bees for inspection, I found brood on the top box eventhough there is an queen excluder between the boxes. Have anybody experinced this before? Do any body have an explanation? Thanks, Aziz Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy. Article 24690 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.gtei.net!firehose.mindspring.com!pool-207-205-178-109.phnx.grid.net!user From: HiStretch@GoStretch.com (Charles "Stretch" Ledford) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Egg Laying Workers Date: Tue, 02 May 2000 13:40:19 -0600 Organization: STRETCH PHOTOGRAPHY Lines: 24 Message-ID: References: <39099C83.11F9937A@netscapeonline.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: cf.cd.b2.6d X-Server-Date: 2 May 2000 19:42:30 GMT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:24690 In article <39099C83.11F9937A@netscapeonline.co.uk>, theorganloft wrote: > Since the worker is not mated she will lay only drones. Bad news all > round! Hope you pick up a swarm soon. > > Stephen R Alliss Thanks, Steve... It turns out, after closer inspection, that there are no eggs and no laying worker in the hive... This pas