Article 29515 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!e420r-sjo4.usenetserver.com!news-out.usenetserver.com!e420r-sjo3.usenetserver.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: hamilton@pbssite.com (Dave Hamilton) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: stings Message-ID: <3aeeacea.333579890@west.usenetserver.com> References: <3aee093f@news.turbotek.net> <3AEE97C9.EDB27CC5@together.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Lines: 16 X-Complaints-To: abuse@usenetserver.com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly. NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 08:37:14 EDT Organization: WebUseNet Corp http://www.usenetserver.com - Home of the fastest NNTP servers on the Net. Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 12:38:54 GMT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29515 In my experience this is normal ..I noticed at first had very slight reactions, about the third time I came to a point where a couple stings on my hand caused my whole lower arm to swell and itch like hell for 3 days. After that time, each sting just caused slight swelling and mild itch for less than a day, seamed less each time I got stung. Over the past two years I have noticed very little swelling or itch until the first day out this year when I got about 3 stings on one hand, it itched / swelled very slightly again the evening of the stings but was gone by morning.. some of the immunity must wear off over the long winter ?? Dave Article 29516 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "Teri Bachus" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: stings Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 08:57:30 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3aee093f@news.turbotek.net> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 6 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29516 for the other end of the continuum, see "Woman Survives Bee Attack", especially the video link... http://www.click2houston.com/hou/news/stories/news-73583320010423-100449.htm l Article 29517 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp.msen.com!newsxfer.eecs.umich.edu!news.cc.ukans.edu!stl-feed.news.verio.net!news1.primary.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3AEEBC6B.4B453FF7@yahoo.com> From: Taylor Francis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: First time Beekeeper... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 10 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 08:38:51 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.224.203.88 X-Complaints-To: abuse@primary.net X-Trace: news1.primary.net 988724546 216.224.203.88 (Tue, 01 May 2001 08:42:26 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 08:42:26 CDT Organization: Primary Network http://www.primary.net Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29517 My bees get here today or tomorrow. I've got 2 hives ready to go. I've got a gallon of 2:1 syrup. Am I missing anything? Any last minute advice or warnings? Thanks, Taylor Article 29518 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Lines: 18 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: pollinator@aol.comnospam (Dave Green) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 01 May 2001 13:54:37 GMT References: <3AEEBC6B.4B453FF7@yahoo.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: First time Beekeeper... Message-ID: <20010501095437.16736.00001635@ng-cd1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29518 The most common beginner mistake is to install the bees on a warm, sunny morning, when they'll be prone to abscond. If it's cold or rainy, go ahead and install. If it's warm, wait until near the end of the day. The queen cage is normally corked. Some will say that you can remove the cork right away; some even say go ahead and release the queen, because they are already acquainted. I'd rather hold them for at least a day, more if you are drawing foundation, before letting the queen out, again, to prevent absconding. A gallon of syrup is a drop in the bucket. Be ready to mix more. If they are healthy they'll suck it up in a few hours. Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA The Pollination Home Page: http://pollinator.com Disclaimer: Opinions aren't facts; learn the art of discrimination. Opinions presented for your use and amusement; use at your own risk. Article 29519 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "CharlesW" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bad Bees! Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 09:33:32 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 21 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29519 I had some really nasty bees at a friends house. I had gone and requeened them, but in doing so really got them stirred up! A few days ago my friend called and said that the bees were stinging himself, the neighbors and passers by, and that he wanted me to move the bees. I, of course, did. My problem is though, that the few straglers that were left behind (I did move them late in the evening, but quite a few still took to flight before I got them closed up) are still bothering people! I went over this morning to check out the situation, and at first, I saw no bees, but then after walking around a bit, I attracted a dozen or so. They seemed to have nothing better to do than attack. These are the most hostile bees I have encountered to date. My question is, how long will those straglers live as solitary bees? I would have guessed that they would have dispersed the next day and caused no further problems. Is there anything I can do to get rid of them faster, or is just waiting for them to die the best we can hope for? Thanks for any input, Charles Texas Article 29520 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!/news!logbridge.uoregon.edu!europa.netcrusader.net!152.163.239.131!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Lines: 17 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: pollinator@aol.comnospam (Dave Green) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 01 May 2001 13:56:33 GMT References: <9cm905$duam8$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: Veil Message-ID: <20010501095633.16736.00001637@ng-cd1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29520 >I am looking for replacement material for my mesh on my veil. Any >suggestions appreciated. > >P.S. Not using a "Veil" is not a proper response.... Just thought I'd say >that before beekeep did ;) I wouldn't say that! I do sometimes work without a veil, but always with one within reach. My wife makes mine of black tulle material, which is fragile but cheap, and offers the best visibility of all materials. Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA The Pollination Home Page: http://pollinator.com Disclaimer: Opinions aren't facts; learn the art of discrimination. Opinions presented for your use and amusement; use at your own risk. Article 29521 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!/news!logbridge.uoregon.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-uk-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.co.uk!not-for-mail From: JAF Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: stings Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 15:35:38 +0100 Organization: Or Chaos? You Choose! Message-ID: References: <3aee093f@news.turbotek.net> <3AEE97C9.EDB27CC5@together.net> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 19 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29521 On Tue, 01 May 2001 07:02:33 -0400, michael palmer wrote: >If I were you, I would try to get stung more frequently. I believe you are >asking for trouble if you procede as you are. Get rid of your gloves, and see if >you can't build up your immunity to stings. Just taking benadryl isn't the >correct solution. Mike Mostly that's not a bad idea, but I knew one man who had been keeping bees for about 50 years, and didn't even feel bee stings. then one day, he was stung by a single bee, and ended up in hospital, being defibrillated. He gave up beekeeping after that. I only ever feel a slight point of heat, which soon fades to nothing. I still make a huge fuss about it though (for the attention, you understand...) -- jaf @ jaffullstopcoanotherfullstopuk www.jaf.co.uk ne cede malis Article 29522 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!/news!logbridge.uoregon.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "CharlesW" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: making room for the queen.... Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 11:09:46 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <3ae8851b.65938176@news1.radix.net> <3AE8A7AA.E422969F@NOTaol.com> <3ae959c0.120375501@news1.radix.net> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 19 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29522 "beekeep" wrote in message news:3ae959c0.120375501@news1.radix.net... > On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:56:42 GMT, MaGa wrote: > > Don't believe everything you read. There has been a lot written about > the newspaper method. No commercial beekeepers use it because we know > the bees can't read. The reality is that someone dreamed it up, it > doesn't hurt the bees, so it must work. Doing the exact same thing > without the paper gets the same results. > > beekeep > I'm just curious ... I have never tried the newspaper method, but was considering it. What procedure do you use to unite colonies? Do you just kill the queen on one and place the brood chamber on the other? Article 29523 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!nntp3.onemain.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3AEE97C9.EDB27CC5@together.net> From: michael palmer Reply-To: mpalmer@together.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en]C-DIAL (Win95; U) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: stings References: <3aee093f@news.turbotek.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 16 Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 07:02:33 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.231.24.85 X-Complaints-To: abuse@onemain.com X-Trace: nntp3.onemain.com 988714542 206.231.24.85 (Tue, 01 May 2001 06:55:42 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 06:55:42 EDT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29523 If I were you, I would try to get stung more frequently. I believe you are asking for trouble if you procede as you are. Get rid of your gloves, and see if you can't build up your immunity to stings. Just taking benadryl isn't the correct solution. Mike K Adney wrote: > Darn, got stung twice this last weekend (while I was taking off the beesuit > & veil). Got stung once last year and like then, the reddened area is about > 4" by 6" (and itchy). Is this an increasing reaction? Will it decrease > with time? Stay the same? Any opinions? My first sting 3 years ago was > only the size of a quarter. Anything to take besides Benadryl (and maybe a > little Cortisone cream)? Article 29524 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu!/news!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.tele.dk!130.133.1.3!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!63.100.169.66!not-for-mail From: "BeeFarmer" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Veil Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 08:08:11 -0400 Lines: 14 Message-ID: <9cm905$duam8$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> Reply-To: "BeeFarmer" NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.100.169.66 X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 988718917 14625480 63.100.169.66 (16 [66812]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29524 I am looking for replacement material for my mesh on my veil. Any suggestions appreciated. P.S. Not using a "Veil" is not a proper response.... Just thought I'd say that before beekeep did ;) -- BeeFarmer BeeFarmer@HomeStead.Com http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html Article 29525 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!kilty.demon.co.uk!honeymountain From: James Kilty Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Killing a wild hive Date: Tue, 1 May 2001 20:25:17 +0100 Message-ID: References: <3AE10828.132B6346@bryder.net> <9bslp4$fbi$1@lust.ihug.co.nz> <3AEA5940.F3C3358C@bryder.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: kilty.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: kilty.demon.co.uk:193.237.253.225 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 988745926 nnrp-12:1241 NO-IDENT kilty.demon.co.uk:193.237.253.225 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Integrated Version 4.02 S Lines: 21 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29525 In article <3AEA5940.F3C3358C@bryder.net>, dave writes > >What's the Cone Method? My neighbor would like them gone but is not in a huge >hurry. There is a good section on a video made by Bob Harrison showing this. You stop up all entrances to the wild colony bar the most convenient one for you. After all the bees have adjusted to the one and only entrance, you make up the exit down to a tight cone from which bees can forage, but which is a little way away from where it was. You place a hive, preferably with a young queen in it right next to the old entrance position. Foraging bees come back and go to the young queen. This depletes the colony of flying bees. But bees still keep emerging from the nest as they mature enough to fly and they have to be removed. Here I am not quite sure of the best way, but I have used a pipe which I put near to the hive and bees find it easier to go to the new queen than find the pipe. Eventually the old colony has no bees and dies out. Then, if the cone system is removed, the new queen's bees will rob out the nest. Remove the colony and block up all entrances to prevent a new swarm from taking over and starting it all over again. -- James Kilty Article 29526 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer1.nac.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail From: honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: making room for the queen.... Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 20:54:40 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 30 Message-ID: <3aef21bf.120776961@news1.radix.net> References: <3ae8851b.65938176@news1.radix.net> <3AE8A7AA.E422969F@NOTaol.com> <3ae959c0.120375501@news1.radix.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: p30.a1.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29526 On Tue, 1 May 2001 11:09:46 -0500, "CharlesW" wrote: > >"beekeep" wrote in message >news:3ae959c0.120375501@news1.radix.net... >> On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 22:56:42 GMT, MaGa wrote: >> >> Don't believe everything you read. There has been a lot written about >> the newspaper method. No commercial beekeepers use it because we know >> the bees can't read. The reality is that someone dreamed it up, it >> doesn't hurt the bees, so it must work. Doing the exact same thing >> without the paper gets the same results. >> >> beekeep >> >I'm just curious ... I have never tried the newspaper method, but was >considering it. What procedure do you use to unite colonies? Do you just >kill the queen on one and place the brood chamber on the other? > You just put one box on top the other or in some cases you just put the frames of bees from two hives into one box and a super of honey on top. The fighting only lasts 15 minutes or so until they all all smell the same. Then they can't tell which is which and settle down. You really don't loose many bees. The queens will decide who is boss so you don't need to worry with finding them either. This will work with two swarms as well! beekeep Article 29527 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.radix.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail From: honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: stings Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 20:56:38 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 22 Message-ID: <3aef22da.121060190@news1.radix.net> References: <3aee093f@news.turbotek.net> <3AEE97C9.EDB27CC5@together.net> <3aeeacea.333579890@west.usenetserver.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: p30.a1.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29527 On Tue, 01 May 2001 12:38:54 GMT, hamilton@pbssite.com (Dave Hamilton) wrote: >In my experience this is normal ..I noticed at first had very slight >reactions, about the third time I came to a point where a couple >stings on my hand caused my whole lower arm to swell and itch like >hell for 3 days. After that time, each sting just caused slight >swelling and mild itch for less than a day, seamed less each time I >got stung. > >Over the past two years I have noticed very little swelling or itch >until the first day out this year when I got about 3 stings on one >hand, it itched / swelled very slightly again the evening of the >stings but was gone by morning.. some of the immunity must wear off >over the long winter ?? > >Dave > Another good reason to open the hive in February to take a look! beekeep Article 29528 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newspeer1.nac.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail From: honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Veil Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 21:05:55 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 23 Message-ID: <3aef2378.121218401@news1.radix.net> References: <9cm905$duam8$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: p30.a1.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29528 On Tue, 1 May 2001 08:08:11 -0400, "BeeFarmer" wrote: >I am looking for replacement material for my mesh on my veil. Any >suggestions appreciated. > >P.S. Not using a "Veil" is not a proper response.... Just thought I'd say >that before beekeep did ;) >-- >BeeFarmer >BeeFarmer@HomeStead.Com >http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html > While I realize that "real men" don't wear a veil, I do most of the time! I always know where my beesuit is as well. You never know when you will need it. The same goes with the fire extinguisher. The screen in the veil looks like the same vinyl coated screen used foe shipping cages. I don't know where you can buy small quantities. Maybe you could remove some from a bee package? beekeep Article 29529 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "H. Rogers" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bad Bees! Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 17:39:44 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3AEF2D20.50AC67E@arkansas.net> Reply-To: hrogers@arkansas.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-{C-UDP; OWL-18113} (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 33 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29529 Howdy Charles -- I am not prone to kill bees, but in this case I would just to keep bees and beekeeping a bad name. Take a roach or wasp bomb and check at night to see if they are clumped at the old site. If so spray them. If they are dispersed and waiting for folks to come by, you might try putting an empty super at the old site to give them a place to go till you can destroy them. Pete ********************* CharlesW wrote: > I had some really nasty bees at a friends house. I had gone and requeened > them, but in doing so really got them stirred up! A few days ago my friend > called and said that the bees were stinging himself, the neighbors and > passers by, and that he wanted me to move the bees. I, of course, did. My > problem is though, that the few straglers that were left behind (I did move > them late in the evening, but quite a few still took to flight before I got > them closed up) are still bothering people! I went over this morning to > check out the situation, and at first, I saw no bees, but then after walking > around a bit, I attracted a dozen or so. They seemed to have nothing better > to do than attack. > These are the most hostile bees I have encountered to date. > My question is, how long will those straglers live as solitary bees? I > would have guessed that they would have dispersed the next day and caused no > further problems. Is there anything I can do to get rid of them faster, or > is just waiting for them to die the best we can hope for? > > Thanks for any input, > Charles > Texas Article 29530 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.orst.edu!news.uidaho.edu!not-for-mail From: Matthew Pollard Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.hobbies.beekeeping Subject: re-queening issues?! & nuc q's Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 16:45:13 -0700 Organization: University of Idaho Lines: 17 Message-ID: <3AEF4A89.5538954C@uidaho.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: stokes.chem.uidaho.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: kestrel.csrv.uidaho.edu 988760638 24573 129.101.81.64 (1 May 2001 23:43:58 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@uidaho.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 1 May 2001 23:43:58 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29530 alt.hobbies.beekeeping:292 Need some help here i am trying to make a nuc. I took three frames of brood and 1.5 frames of nectar/pollen/capped honey from a strong hive and bees along with it. I let the hive sit for two days w/o a queen. I then took the queen box, pulled out the cork and poked a 1/16" diamter hole through the sugar-plug and put the box with the sugar plug facing down between 2 frames in the middle of the frames at the top of the hive. I went back 4 days later and the queen and the few nurse bees were dead. Ii have another queen ariving tomorrow (hopefully!) and what am i supposed to do? How can i increases my chances of the queen being accepted into this nuc? Did i miss something? What about removing the nurse bees before i instert the queen cage? How big of a hole should i make? How long should i wait too check? When do i get worried. BEfore i queen i'll make sure there are no queen cells. Thanks matthew in Moscow ID Article 29531 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.aus1.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!news2.aus1.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "DRUMSD" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Beeswax and candles Lines: 9 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 18:51:57 CDT Organization: Giganews.Com - Premium News Outsourcing X-Trace: sv3-E4jzmCDKqSgR3qMaZpQwSgnj5PqH12dn5AAKs3LwSSTwx0QrjHwbZIMylODgPAwgCq7ucLPG3y3PP9x!EHYOVX+E3RrzZDBaJYWOHi4wGR6o10DOmCtJmRTiUzl/PQ2ofZOCrE1WQutuxO1J5887U8fq9/cv!R2IhYdIjBXEiFyU= X-Complaints-To: abuse@GigaNews.Com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@giganews.com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 23:51:57 GMT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29531 Anyone know of a good place to purchase rubber or latex type molds for candle making? I have tried BetterBee, and am looking for more places with more selection. Thanks David drumsd@twave.net Article 29532 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "H. Rogers" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.hobbies.beekeeping Subject: Re: re-queening issues?! & nuc q's Date: Tue, 01 May 2001 18:58:08 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3AEF3F80.7E65BE09@arkansas.net> Reply-To: hrogers@arkansas.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-{C-UDP; OWL-18113} (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3AEF4A89.5538954C@uidaho.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 29 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29532 alt.hobbies.beekeeping:293 Howdy Matthew -- Your only mistake seems to be putting the candy end DOWN. The attendant bees frequently die before release time, so the dead bee falls into the opening in the candy and the queen can not get out. Next time, place the candy end UP. Pete ***************************** Matthew Pollard wrote: > Need some help here > i am trying to make a nuc. I took three frames of brood and 1.5 frames > of nectar/pollen/capped honey from a strong hive and bees along with > it. I let the hive sit for two days w/o a queen. I then took the queen > box, pulled out the cork and poked a 1/16" diamter hole through the > sugar-plug and put the box with the sugar plug facing down between 2 > frames in the middle of the frames at the top of the hive. I went back > 4 days later and the queen and the few nurse bees were dead. Ii have > another queen ariving tomorrow (hopefully!) and what am i supposed to > do? How can i increases my chances of the queen being accepted into this > nuc? Did i miss something? What about removing the nurse bees before i > instert the queen cage? How big of a hole should i make? How long > should i wait too check? When do i get worried. BEfore i queen i'll make > sure there are no queen cells. > Thanks > matthew in Moscow ID Article 29533 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!feeder.qis.net!nntp.abs.net!uunet!dca.uu.net!ash.uu.net!xyzzy!nntp From: "Billy Y. Smart II" Subject: Re: First time Beekeeper... X-Nntp-Posting-Host: rs498032.ks.boeing.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3AEF503F.E97623C2@nospam.boeing.com> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (Boeing NNTP News Access) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Tooling Numeric Control Programming - Wichita Division X-Accept-Language: en References: <3AEEBC6B.4B453FF7@yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 00:09:35 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; AIX 4.3) Lines: 20 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29533 I think you will want to use 1:1 syrup. The 2:1 is for fall feeding. Taylor Francis wrote: > > My bees get here today or tomorrow. > I've got 2 hives ready to go. > I've got a gallon of 2:1 syrup. > > Am I missing anything? > > Any last minute advice or warnings? > > Thanks, > Taylor -- Billy Y. Smart II /* If the opinions expressed herein reflect those of the */ /* Boeing Company, it would be entirely coincidental. */ /* Remove the "NOSPAM" from the address to reply */ Article 29534 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-01!sn-uk-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.co.uk!not-for-mail From: JAF Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Beeswax and candles Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 01:53:19 +0100 Organization: Or Chaos? You Choose! Message-ID: References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 17 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29534 On Tue, 01 May 2001 23:51:57 GMT, "DRUMSD" wrote: >Anyone know of a good place to purchase rubber or latex type molds for >candle making? I have tried BetterBee, and am looking for more places with >more selection. > http://thorne.co.uk/index.htm though I realise it may be a bit far away from where you are. they do have a good selection (of everything you could possibly need). -- jaf @ jaffullstopcoanotherfullstopuk www.jaf.co.uk ne cede malis Article 29535 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!63.100.169.66!not-for-mail From: "BeeFarmer" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Beeswax and candles Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:50:36 -0400 Lines: 31 Message-ID: <9cosb7$ecrqa$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> References: Reply-To: "BeeFarmer" NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.100.169.66 X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 988804265 15101770 63.100.169.66 (16 [66812]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29535 You might want to try http://www.homestead.com/SimpsonBeeSupply/Welcome.html -- BeeFarmer BeeFarmer@HomeStead.Com http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html "JAF" wrote in message news:t6kuet04a7o8v3uiicefo18mq2a3p034a6@4ax.com... > On Tue, 01 May 2001 23:51:57 GMT, "DRUMSD" wrote: > > >Anyone know of a good place to purchase rubber or latex type molds for > >candle making? I have tried BetterBee, and am looking for more places with > >more selection. > > > > http://thorne.co.uk/index.htm > though I realise it may be a bit far away from where you are. > they do have a good selection (of everything you could possibly need). > > > > -- > jaf @ jaffullstopcoanotherfullstopuk > www.jaf.co.uk > ne cede malis Article 29536 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!63.100.169.66!not-for-mail From: "BeeFarmer" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Veil Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 07:53:38 -0400 Lines: 38 Message-ID: <9cosgt$eupk8$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> References: <9cm905$duam8$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> <3aef2378.121218401@news1.radix.net> Reply-To: "BeeFarmer" NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.100.169.66 X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 988804445 15689352 63.100.169.66 (16 [66812]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29536 My daughter suggested I tape all the screens from queen cages on the holes!!! Obviously she doesn't wear my veil! -- BeeFarmer BeeFarmer@HomeStead.Com http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html "beekeep" wrote in message news:3aef2378.121218401@news1.radix.net... > On Tue, 1 May 2001 08:08:11 -0400, "BeeFarmer" > wrote: > > >I am looking for replacement material for my mesh on my veil. Any > >suggestions appreciated. > > > >P.S. Not using a "Veil" is not a proper response.... Just thought I'd say > >that before beekeep did ;) > >-- > >BeeFarmer > >BeeFarmer@HomeStead.Com > >http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html > > > While I realize that "real men" don't wear a veil, I do most of the > time! I always know where my beesuit is as well. You never know when > you will need it. The same goes with the fire extinguisher. > > The screen in the veil looks like the same vinyl coated screen used > foe shipping cages. I don't know where you can buy small quantities. > Maybe you could remove some from a bee package? > > beekeep > Article 29537 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!europa.netcrusader.net!207.172.3.44!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!chnws02.mediaone.net!chnws06.ne.mediaone.net!24.128.8.202!typhoon.ne.mediaone.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Steve Huston" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.hobbies.beekeeping References: <3AEF4A89.5538954C@uidaho.edu> <3AEF3F80.7E65BE09@arkansas.net> Subject: Re: re-queening issues?! & nuc q's Lines: 48 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 13:02:31 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.91.189.110 X-Complaints-To: abuse@mediaone.net X-Trace: typhoon.ne.mediaone.net 988808551 24.91.189.110 (Wed, 02 May 2001 09:02:31 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 09:02:31 EDT Organization: Road Runner Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29537 alt.hobbies.beekeeping:294 Right... but just to be sure the rest of the orientation is ok, make sure that the screen side is facing down (you may need to remove a frame to fit this in) with the candy end elevated to prevent dead bees from clogging, as Pete said. Put the cage between frames that have brood. In splits, the older bees usually go back to the original hive, leaving the younger ones, which are more likely to accept the new queen, so you should have a good chance at success... unless the bees have decided there is no queen and started making their own. Check for queen cells before you put the new cage in. -Steve "H. Rogers" wrote in message news:3AEF3F80.7E65BE09@arkansas.net... > Howdy Matthew -- > > Your only mistake seems to be putting the candy end DOWN. > The attendant bees frequently die before release time, so the dead > bee falls into the opening in the candy and the queen can not get out. > Next time, place the candy end UP. > > Pete > ***************************** > > Matthew Pollard wrote: > > > Need some help here > > i am trying to make a nuc. I took three frames of brood and 1.5 frames > > of nectar/pollen/capped honey from a strong hive and bees along with > > it. I let the hive sit for two days w/o a queen. I then took the queen > > box, pulled out the cork and poked a 1/16" diamter hole through the > > sugar-plug and put the box with the sugar plug facing down between 2 > > frames in the middle of the frames at the top of the hive. I went back > > 4 days later and the queen and the few nurse bees were dead. Ii have > > another queen ariving tomorrow (hopefully!) and what am i supposed to > > do? How can i increases my chances of the queen being accepted into this > > nuc? Did i miss something? What about removing the nurse bees before i > > instert the queen cage? How big of a hole should i make? How long > > should i wait too check? When do i get worried. BEfore i queen i'll make > > sure there are no queen cells. > > Thanks > > matthew in Moscow ID > Article 29538 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!pearmatt.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "bees" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: anatomy Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 14:51:43 +0100 Message-ID: <988811510.24095.0.nnrp-08.9e98e8c9@news.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: pearmatt.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: pearmatt.demon.co.uk:158.152.232.201 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 988811510 nnrp-08:24095 NO-IDENT pearmatt.demon.co.uk:158.152.232.201 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Lines: 19 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29538 For a project we are involved in we are seeking some information about the anatomy of worker honey bees, their size, shape etc. We are not so interested in internal anatomy. Has anyone studied the range of sizes of worker bees, size of head, thorax, body eyt. We intend to construct an accurate 3D model on computer and need either accurate scale top and side views or precise photographs. The anthropometric data for humans is well documented with sizes measured between joint centres. IS there anything similar available for bees. I cannot say very much about the project at present but it is very exciting and I will publish the 3D data of the bee for all to use when complete. Mike Pearson Pearson Matthews Design Ltd mike.pearson@pearsonmatthews.com Article 29539 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!/news!logbridge.uoregon.edu!dispose.news.demon.net!news.demon.co.uk!demon!pearmatt.demon.co.uk!not-for-mail From: "Mikey P" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: anatomy Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 12:16:52 +0100 Message-ID: <988811708.24191.0.nnrp-08.9e98e8c9@news.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: pearmatt.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: pearmatt.demon.co.uk:158.152.232.201 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 988811708 nnrp-08:24191 NO-IDENT pearmatt.demon.co.uk:158.152.232.201 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Lines: 17 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29539 For a project we are involved in we are seeking some information about the anatomy of worker honey bees, their size, shape etc. We are not so interested in internal anatomy. Has anyone studied the range of sizes of worker bees, size of head, thorax, body eyt. We intend to construct an accurate 3D model on computer and need either accurate scale top and side views or precise photographs. The anthropometric data for humans is well documented with sizes measured between joint centres. IS there anything similar available for bees. I cannot say very much about the project at present but it is very exciting and I will publish the 3D data of the bee for all to use when complete. Mike Pearson Pearson Matthews Design Ltd mike.pearson@pearsonmatthews.com Article 29540 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!europa.netcrusader.net!207.172.3.44!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!newsfeed.atl!news1.atl.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Bill Daniels" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: First ever swarm call Lines: 50 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 11:07:42 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.20.140.179 X-Trace: news1.atl 988819663 66.20.140.179 (Wed, 02 May 2001 12:07:43 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 12:07:43 EDT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29540 I am starting my third season as a beekeeper and took my first ever swarm call this morning. A fellow here in my community called me on the phone this morning to gather a swarm that had paused in a small oak tree in his front yard. He said that our local club's immediate past president had given him my name since I was located close by. When I spoke to him he said that a friend who keeps bees had tried to get the swarm out of his tree but had failed. I asked about the height off the ground (approx. 6 feet) and whether I could cut the branch (no, it was a little ornamental and he didn't want it butchered). I grabbed a lightweight cardboard box and cut a little flap for a door near the bottom. I loaded up the box, my bee gear, and a sheet and headed over to the fellow's subdivision a couple miles away. When I got there, I saw the swarm, about a half gallon in size on a little branch where I could just reach it. There was an opening in the branches large enough for me to get the box positioned underneath the swarm. I'm glad I took a lightweight box; there was no way I could have held up a wooden hive and no place to position any sort of stand for a hive. The homeowner and I chitchat for a few minutes. The swarm had arrived yesterday. I suited up, sent the homeowner into the house to watch from a window, and spread the sheet out underneath the work area. I was able to get the box balanced in my left hand and positioned just under the swarm. I grabbed the little limb and gave it a sharp shake. Just about every bee fell into the box. I set it down on the sheet and quickly folded the top flaps down. Through the gap in the lid a few bees came out and almost immediately began fanning. I was pretty sure the queen was safely in the box. I backed off and the owner came out to say how much more effective my operation was than the other fellow. I grinned. After most of the bees had settled down I sent the homeowner back inside and brushed the few remaining bees off the branch and into the air. Most of them eventually settled into the box. I opened the little door flap and began taping the top shut. Again, fanning in the door opening. I waited about five minutes for more bees to settle and made smalltalk with the homeowner who had reappeared. After he got bored and went inside I taped up the little opening, loaded up, and headed for home. Textbook! I'm actually a bit surprised at how well it went. I think the whole episode left the homeowner with a pretty good impression of beekeepers and honeybees. I had tried to explain some of their behaviors and physiology because he seemed genuinely interested. I wish I had a small jar of honey to have left with him to encourage him to buy local honey but I'm all out. Bill Article 29541 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsxfer.eecs.umich.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.orst.edu!news.uidaho.edu!not-for-mail From: Matthew Pollard Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: requeening issues- HELP Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 09:07:56 -0700 Organization: University of Idaho Lines: 19 Message-ID: <3AF030DC.1D6773A4@uidaho.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: stokes.chem.uidaho.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: kestrel.csrv.uidaho.edu 988819583 11713 129.101.81.64 (2 May 2001 16:06:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@uidaho.edu NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 May 2001 16:06:23 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.75 [en] (WinNT; U) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29541 Need some help here i am trying to make a nuc. I took three frames of brood and 1.5 frames of nectar/pollen/capped honey from a strong hive and bees along with it. I let the hive sit for two days w/o a queen. I then took the queen box, pulled out the cork and poked a 1/16" diamter hole through the sugar-plug and put the box with the sugar plug facing down between 2 frames in the middle of the frames at the top of the hive. I went back 4 days later and the queen and the few nurse bees were dead. Ii have another queen ariving tomorrow (hopefully!) and what am i supposed to do? How can i increases my chances of the queen being accepted into this nuc? Did i miss something? What about removing the nurse bees before i instert the queen cage? How big of a hole should i make? How long should i wait too check? When do i get worried. BEfore i queen i'll make sure there are no queen cells. Thanks matthew in Moscow ID Article 29542 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-01!sn-uk-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.co.uk!not-for-mail From: JAF Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: First ever swarm call Date: Wed, 02 May 2001 18:50:29 +0100 Organization: Or Chaos? You Choose! Message-ID: <5qg0ftsa1ikafsb0he133628omceus2em2@4ax.com> References: X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 X-No-Archive: yes MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 11 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29542 On Wed, 2 May 2001 11:07:42 -0500, "Bill Daniels" wrote: [...] Good stuff. I'm glad I read that. -- jaf @ jaffullstopcoanotherfullstopuk www.jaf.co.uk ne cede malis Article 29543 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!cyclone.bc.net!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "Mr. Dixon" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: The queen is gone... Date: Wed, 2 May 2001 14:05:17 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 14 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29543 Four weeks ago I re-queened my italian hive with a Russian queen. Everything look good until today. Last week I opened the hive and there were plenty of larva, and capped brood. Today, I opened it and didn't see any signs of a queen...no eggs..no larva...only some capped brood left. I did see 4 queen cells, not yet capped, and 1 capped queen cell..several drone cells also. I don't know if the Italians decided that they didn't like the Rusky woman and killed her or maybe I mashed her when I had the hive open last week....either way..she's like Elvis...The queen has left the building... The other hive that I was posting about... the bees crawling away from the hive..... No more crawlers and the hive looks healthy. Lots of eggs, larva, and brood. I can't figure that one out.. Article 29625 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!/news!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "Jim R. Hankins" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Queen Cells Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 23:39:11 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 37 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29625 Hi After inspecting my hive yesterday, I was surprised to see these weird cells. I knew immediately that they were queen cells located toward the top of the form. There were two to be exact. The queen is a Buckfast and she's really been very productive. Seven of the ten frames have been drawn. I'm afraid of a swarm. I called the apiary where I purchased the bees to inquire as to what I should do. The lady said that I needed to smash the queen cells and all would be ok. She said that the prime reason that these cells had formed was that I was "killing them with kindness." Meaning I had been inspecting the hive on a weekly to bi-weekly basis and that the bees did not like this. I believe she said that the bees sense there is a problem with the Queen. I told her that I was feeding them a sugar/water syrup in a top feeder and that they were going through it pretty fast. She said just leave them alone and check it in a month. The thing that worries me is shouldn't I check to see if the Queen is still there first, before I smash them? Should I smash them with my finger? Should I cut them out with a knife? Do you think that the queen may be in bad condition and that is why the Queen cells are formed or is it truly because I visit the hive to often. If I am to stay away from the hive do you think I should stop feeding them which would indeed keep me away from the hive? I live in Texas and things are blooming up a storm! Your advice would be appreciated as I am off tomorrow and would love to take care of this. I have really enjoyed the bees and would be upset to loose them. Thanks in advance, Jim Article 29626 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!/news!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.telusplanet.net!news1.telusplanet.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Advice...Please. From: allend@internode.net (Allen Dick) References: <20010506160455.02798.00000943@ng-mn1.aol.com> <3AF68181.983BFD38@together.net> Message-ID: User-Agent: Xnews/4.04.10 Lines: 18 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 13:07:47 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.161.229.188 X-Trace: news1.telusplanet.net 989413667 198.161.229.188 (Wed, 09 May 2001 07:07:47 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 07:07:47 MDT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29626 Yeah. I mentioned that caveat in my original post, but it got lost in the quoting, I guess. allen >I heard about this method, so I thought I would try it. When harvesting >honey in the fall, robbing gets pretty bad. Anyway, I and a first time >helper took all the covers off and began removing supers. Before too >long the robbing started. And then the stinging started. I tried >"wiping" the bees off him, but the situation got severely out of hand. >He ran for the truck, and I put the covers back on and beat a hasty >retreat for home (that was the end of that helper). Later I found out >why it didn't work for me. Someone had moved 50 colonies to 1/2 mile >from my yard. Let me tell you, I never tried that "trick" again. > >>> If a yard of bees gets robbing viciously, the solution is to take the >>> lid off *every* hive in the yard until they settle down and you can >>> do remedial measures. Article 29627 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.slurp.net!not-for-mail From: "Cudd" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: Subject: Re: Queen Cells Lines: 68 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:06:12 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.245.213.70 X-Trace: newsfeed.slurp.net 989417004 209.245.213.70 (Wed, 09 May 2001 09:03:24 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 09:03:24 CDT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29627 Jim, Make sure your queen is alive and healthy first! We know from experience this spring. One of or hives was virtually exploding with bees and upon examination we found 11 queen cells. We thought that meant they were about to swarm. Naturally, we wanted to prevent a swarm so we destroyed the queen cells. Bad move. Our queen was already gone as we found out a week later (no new eggs). Luckily, an experienced beekeeper from the Montgomery County Beekeeper's Association provided us with a new Buckfast queen for replacement. You could gently cut out some of those queen cells and stick them in a nuc or another hive and raise some more queens if you wanted to. Or, you could split your hive by removing some brood and honey/pollen frames and put them and your old queen in a new nuc or hive body. Robert http://members.tripod.com/beetalk Jim R. Hankins wrote in message news:tfhidmi8pij3f2@corp.supernews.com... > Hi > > After inspecting my hive yesterday, I was surprised to see these weird > cells. I knew immediately that they were queen cells located toward the top > of the form. There were two to be exact. > > The queen is a Buckfast and she's really been very productive. Seven of > the ten frames have been drawn. I'm afraid of a swarm. I called the apiary > where I purchased the bees to inquire as to what I should do. The lady said > that I needed to smash the queen cells and all would be ok. She said that > the prime reason that these cells had formed was that I was "killing them > with kindness." Meaning I had been inspecting the hive on a weekly to > bi-weekly basis and that the bees did not like this. I believe she said > that the bees sense there is a problem with the Queen. I told her that I > was feeding them a sugar/water syrup in a top feeder and that they were > going through it pretty fast. She said just leave them alone and check it > in a month. > > The thing that worries me is shouldn't I check to see if the Queen is still > there first, before I smash them? > > Should I smash them with my finger? Should I cut them out with a knife? > > Do you think that the queen may be in bad condition and that is why the > Queen cells are formed or is it truly because I visit the hive to often. If > I am to stay away from the hive do you think I should stop feeding them > which would indeed keep me away from the hive? I live in Texas and things > are blooming up a storm! > > Your advice would be appreciated as I am off tomorrow and would love to take > care of this. I have really enjoyed the bees and would be upset to loose > them. > > Thanks in advance, > Jim > > Article 29628 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!/news!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.slurp.net!not-for-mail From: "Cudd" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <9dba3r$gtmff$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> <9dbf7l$hk28a$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> Subject: Re: York Bees Lines: 34 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Message-ID: Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 08:56:15 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.245.213.70 X-Trace: newsfeed.slurp.net 989416408 209.245.213.70 (Wed, 09 May 2001 08:53:28 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 08:53:28 CDT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29628 Well... what was the deal? Please enlighten us. Robert BeeFarmer wrote in message news:9dbf7l$hk28a$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de... > I just called GA. Agriculture. and found out the issue. No need to reply. > -- > BeeFarmer > BeeFarmer@HomeStead.Com > http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html > > > > "BeeFarmer" wrote in message > news:9dba3r$gtmff$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de... > > Could someone expand on the issue with York Bees where a Newsgroup poster > > posted that the bees have been quarantined and anyone who has received > > queens needs to call the GA. Bee Inspector. > > > > -- > > BeeFarmer > > BeeFarmer@HomeStead.Com > > http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html > > > > > > > > > > > > Article 29629 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.stealth.net!newscon02.news.prodigy.com!newsmst01.news.prodigy.com!prodigy.com!postmaster.news.prodigy.com!not-for-mail From: Attila Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bee venom... Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 11:00:55 -0400 Organization: Prodigy http://www.prodigy.com Lines: 8 Message-ID: <3AF95BA7.4BF60E6F@yahoo.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: a010-0684.nyc4.splitrock.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: newssvr05-en0.news.prodigy.com 989420333 4384369 64.198.66.176 (9 May 2001 14:58:53 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 9 May 2001 14:58:53 GMT X-Accept-Language: en X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29629 Anyone knows, or can help me to find a Lab, or a venom collection center, in or around New York state ? I live in East Islip, Long Island and I would like to collect (capture) wasp colonies, freez them and transport them to the Lab, I belive the venom could be usefull... Attila Article 29630 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.indiana.edu!news.ind.net!portal.bsu.edu!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3AF96759.95E21809@bsu.edu> From: "Dale A. Scheidler" X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.74 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Swarm Lures--New Question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 13 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 10:50:49 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 147.226.103.50 X-Trace: portal.bsu.edu 989423337 147.226.103.50 (Wed, 09 May 2001 10:48:57 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 10:48:57 EST Organization: Ball St. U. Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29630 I purchased swarm lures a year ago and had two swarm boxes that they were installed into. No swarms had ever entered. Last night these boxes were opened and discovered that the liquid lure was still present after a year of exposure! I popped the cap off and it smelled like lemon furniture polish. The instructions say to leave the caps on and that the pheromone lasts about 3 months. I poked a very small hole in the cap to make sure that the pheromone escapes. Any thoughts on this swarm lure situation? Thanks, Dale, Indiana Article 29631 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!/news!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!howland.erols.net!news-out.worldnet.att.net.MISMATCH!wn3feed!wn1feed!worldnet.att.net!207.207.0.27!nntp2.aus1.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!news6.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "J&DC" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <9dba3r$gtmff$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> <9dbf7l$hk28a$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> Subject: Re: York Bees Lines: 47 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 10:13:18 CDT Organization: Giganews.Com - Premium News Outsourcing X-Trace: sv3-4yt48dbe99WKa2WcBswVf76LkHRfNmv1+/q2SYTtyAPSeJWhketDh5bN2w9qHFBqEaEreB0NRaQ/JkE!f9IkC0Sp1lE0fqdYkxIMK1DT5jGZzLfB7ZorOj6y5wNdP3jeHrN1rrFNYdl/prAhazIxIrSmvXP9!eCnL5iPE X-Complaints-To: abuse@GigaNews.Com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@giganews.com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 11:10:35 -0400 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29631 I just spoke with york bee co. They said they were running as usual. They are about a week behind on orders. The phone system will ring even if they are on the line and they said they are on the line most of the time. Thats why it just rings and rings. My package was to be shipped on 5/9 and is now shipping 5/15. I spoke with the same woman who took my order on 4/19 and she didn't know anything about a quarantine. Dave "Cudd" wrote in message news:sZbK6.68$oH.2278@newsfeed.slurp.net... > Well... what was the deal? Please enlighten us. > > Robert > > BeeFarmer wrote in message > news:9dbf7l$hk28a$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de... > > I just called GA. Agriculture. and found out the issue. No need to reply. > > -- > > BeeFarmer > > BeeFarmer@HomeStead.Com > > http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html > > > > > > > > "BeeFarmer" wrote in message > > news:9dba3r$gtmff$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de... > > > Could someone expand on the issue with York Bees where a Newsgroup > poster > > > posted that the bees have been quarantined and anyone who has received > > > queens needs to call the GA. Bee Inspector. > > > > > > -- > > > BeeFarmer > > > BeeFarmer@HomeStead.Com > > > http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Article 29632 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!/news!newsfeed.utk.edu!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!cyclone-sf.pbi.net!207.207.0.26!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!news6.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "J&DC" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <9cchaq$sti$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <3ae9d8d0.152903258@news1.radix.net> <__xI6.208958$lj4.5999565@news6.giganews.com> <9d45b4$j8e$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> <6emJ6.3860$oa2.73833@news6.giganews.com> <9d7k55$14v$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> Subject: Re: Where Can I Purchase a Package This Late? Lines: 30 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 10:16:53 CDT Organization: Giganews.Com - Premium News Outsourcing X-Trace: sv3-yVry15O6r5JOV6Jud2MinMzVR7hP/opgEZLCXoSNXGaiurxq7eR2Hlz0VRErpDv9jh1GFFiBveeL8xi!taJhcdm2qlu3Lsp1JlB+GZkQV2vc2YuNuvFNGtCRSEpoNt5lKPHV0XBjes3lN43BQbbMIBAUiW5e!F5rZALyu X-Complaints-To: abuse@GigaNews.Com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@giganews.com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 11:14:09 -0400 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29632 I posted to you yesterday but I cant see it on my listing? I called 1-912-427-7311 see my post under "york bee" for more info dave "Jerome R. Long" wrote in message news:9d7k55$14v$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu... > In article <6emJ6.3860$oa2.73833@news6.giganews.com>, dontEmail@me.com says... > > > > > >> > > >> I have dealt with York on and off for 33 years, but now they seem to > >> in communicado. There phone never answers night and day. The e-mail > >address > >> on their page www.yorkbee.com does not function. FAX messges are not > >answered. > >> What is your secret for contacting them? > >> > >I must have been lucky? I called around 2pm and they answered after 3 > >rings. I spoke with a women who took my order for 1 3# package. I got > >there # from bee culture. Its hard to believe they would buy a full page > >add and not answer the phone!! Good lucj. > >Dave > > That is most curious. What telephone number are you using? > > Article 29633 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!/news!hammer.uoregon.edu!news.cc.ukans.edu!stl-feed.news.verio.net!news1.primary.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3AF95EE2.1AB1CE93@yahoo.com> From: Taylor Francis X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en] (Win95; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Splitting a hive... Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 4 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 10:14:42 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 216.224.203.136 X-Complaints-To: abuse@primary.net X-Trace: news1.primary.net 989421418 216.224.203.136 (Wed, 09 May 2001 10:16:58 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 10:16:58 CDT Organization: Primary Network http://www.primary.net Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29633 How do I split a hive to create a new hive? Thanks Taylor Article 29634 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!lester.appstate.edu!uni00nw.unity.ncsu.edu!/news!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.r-kom.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!63.100.169.66!not-for-mail From: "BeeFarmer" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: York Bees Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 07:35:46 -0400 Lines: 13 Message-ID: <9dba3r$gtmff$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> Reply-To: "BeeFarmer" NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.100.169.66 X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 989408187 17750511 63.100.169.66 (16 [66812]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29634 Could someone expand on the issue with York Bees where a Newsgroup poster posted that the bees have been quarantined and anyone who has received queens needs to call the GA. Bee Inspector. -- BeeFarmer BeeFarmer@HomeStead.Com http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html Article 29635 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!hearst.acc.Virginia.EDU!hammer.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.r-kom.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!63.100.169.66!not-for-mail From: "BeeFarmer" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: York Bees Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 09:03:13 -0400 Lines: 25 Message-ID: <9dbf7l$hk28a$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> References: <9dba3r$gtmff$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> Reply-To: "BeeFarmer" NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.100.169.66 X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 989413432 18483466 63.100.169.66 (16 [66812]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29635 I just called GA. Agriculture. and found out the issue. No need to reply. -- BeeFarmer BeeFarmer@HomeStead.Com http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html "BeeFarmer" wrote in message news:9dba3r$gtmff$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de... > Could someone expand on the issue with York Bees where a Newsgroup poster > posted that the bees have been quarantined and anyone who has received > queens needs to call the GA. Bee Inspector. > > -- > BeeFarmer > BeeFarmer@HomeStead.Com > http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html > > > > > Article 29636 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!europa.netcrusader.net!63.208.208.143!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!nntp2.onemain.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3AF99B2B.E33E039D@midwest.net> From: AL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Swarm Lures--New Question References: <3AF96759.95E21809@bsu.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 35 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 12:31:55 -0700 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.248.4.168 X-Complaints-To: abuse@onemain.com X-Trace: nntp2.onemain.com 989429487 209.248.4.168 (Wed, 09 May 2001 13:31:27 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 13:31:27 EDT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29636 "Dale A. Scheidler" wrote: > > I purchased swarm lures a year ago and had two swarm boxes that they > were installed into. No swarms had ever entered. Last night these > boxes were opened and discovered that the liquid lure was still present > after a year of exposure! I popped the cap off and it smelled like > lemon furniture polish. The instructions say to leave the caps on and > that the pheromone lasts about 3 months. I poked a very small hole in > the cap to make sure that the pheromone escapes. Any thoughts on this > swarm lure situation? Sure. Now that you're hopelessly contaminated, do you have your affairs in order? Got a Will drawn up? I though my brain damage from sniffing those things was bad, can't imagine what will happen to you now that you've actually absorbed that stuff thru the skin. Hell, why don't you just eat the things and get it over with??? For what time you have left you may as well hang the traps back out for another try. What sort of location are you selecting for the traps? I have 55 acres and at least 6 traps out. Each year the trap near my pond catches at least two swarms while the other traps remain empty. In the immediate vicinity of the pond are russian olives, persimmons, and ledino(sp) clover, all of which seem to attract lots of bees. Apparently the promise of a good food & water supply is attractive to swarms. Unfortunately for them, I then haul them to a God forsaken corner of my property where they spend their last days eking out a living. Course, that's gotta be better than dying a painful death from swarm lure contamination. :) AL Article 29637 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!63.100.169.66!not-for-mail From: "BeeFarmer" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: York Bees Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 13:44:33 -0400 Lines: 62 Message-ID: <9dbvn7$h2cn8$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> References: <9dba3r$gtmff$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> <9dbf7l$hk28a$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> Reply-To: "BeeFarmer" NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.100.169.66 X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 989430312 17904360 63.100.169.66 (16 [66812]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29637 I don't think you got all the info. If you would like more info please email me directly. -- BeeFarmer BeeFarmer@HomeStead.Com http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html "J&DC" wrote in message news:i8dK6.10390$oa2.252123@news6.giganews.com... > I just spoke with york bee co. > They said they were running as usual. They are about a week behind on > orders. The phone system will ring even if they are on the line and they > said they are on the line most of the time. Thats why it just rings and > rings. My package was to be shipped on 5/9 and is now shipping 5/15. I > spoke with the same woman who took my order on 4/19 and she didn't know > anything about a quarantine. > Dave > "Cudd" wrote in message > news:sZbK6.68$oH.2278@newsfeed.slurp.net... > > Well... what was the deal? Please enlighten us. > > > > Robert > > > > BeeFarmer wrote in message > > news:9dbf7l$hk28a$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de... > > > I just called GA. Agriculture. and found out the issue. No need to > reply. > > > -- > > > BeeFarmer > > > BeeFarmer@HomeStead.Com > > > http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html > > > > > > > > > > > > "BeeFarmer" wrote in message > > > news:9dba3r$gtmff$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de... > > > > Could someone expand on the issue with York Bees where a Newsgroup > > poster > > > > posted that the bees have been quarantined and anyone who has received > > > > queens needs to call the GA. Bee Inspector. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > BeeFarmer > > > > BeeFarmer@HomeStead.Com > > > > http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Article 29638 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!cyclone.swbell.net!cyclone0.chicago.il.ameritech.net!spamfilter!nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Doug Lindhout" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3AF8650E.1BBE6B03@tucson.ars.ag.gov> Subject: Re: York Bees Lines: 13 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 22:18:14 -0400 NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.141.246.190 X-Trace: nntp0.chicago.il.ameritech.net 989374686 206.141.246.190 (Tue, 08 May 2001 21:18:06 CDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 08 May 2001 21:18:06 CDT Organization: Ameritech.Net www.ameritech.net Complaints: abuse@ameritech.net Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29638 The only solid info I have is that they accepted our order and charged our account. The bees are due tomorrow or Thursday. What information are you looking for? "John Edwards" wrote in message news:3AF8650E.1BBE6B03@tucson.ars.ag.gov... > Does anybody have solid info on what's going on with York Bee Co. ? > Article 29639 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "H. Rogers" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Splitting a hive... Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 16:22:46 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3AF9A716.F645D829@arkansas.net> Reply-To: hrogers@arkansas.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-{C-UDP; OWL-18113} (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3AF95EE2.1AB1CE93@yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 24 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29639 Howdy Taylor -- You will get a lot of answers, all of which will work. But here is a simple one: 1. Divide the colony so that both parts are about equal in bees, brood, pollen, and honey. Be sure both parts contain eggs or newly hatched larvae. Don't waste time looking for the queen, because whichever part does not have a queen, can raise one. If you are going to give them a store bought queen, wait 4 days to examine closely and give the queen to the half with no eggs. Transport one half to a location a couple of miles away so the two parts will remain equal. 2. If you can not move one to a distant location, place it in another part of the yard and shake extra bees into it so the original split will contain more bees than at the home site, because the field bees will return home. Pete ********************************* > Article 29640 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!nntp2.aus1.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!news6.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Me" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3AF96759.95E21809@bsu.edu> <3AF99B2B.E33E039D@midwest.net> Subject: Re: Swarm Lures--New Question Lines: 46 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 17:46:08 CDT Organization: Giganews.Com - Premium News Outsourcing X-Trace: sv3-QqwXO0vyM1Kdi1SOhvVygc9XZYrF75Y1ic9fQLdkz48jQva5mJExJ+Lml85cBUr6BYEF+oYAe1qcTT3!hM+i5zCFmEeOy911sGfwx1Dw6S0QmrU9uSmFs/6yt9j+gcuntkFbdpJ/w8fPq+KXJf9cN9luZA/v X-Complaints-To: abuse@GigaNews.Com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@giganews.com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 13:21:14 -0700 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29640 I've also heard that it causes your children to be born toothless and naked!!!! -- Mark (The Little/Coldiron Farm) If what you're doing seems too hard..., You're probably doing it wrong. :-) "AL" wrote in message news:3AF99B2B.E33E039D@midwest.net... > "Dale A. Scheidler" wrote: > > > > I purchased swarm lures a year ago and had two swarm boxes that they > > were installed into. No swarms had ever entered. Last night these > > boxes were opened and discovered that the liquid lure was still present > > after a year of exposure! I popped the cap off and it smelled like > > lemon furniture polish. The instructions say to leave the caps on and > > that the pheromone lasts about 3 months. I poked a very small hole in > > the cap to make sure that the pheromone escapes. Any thoughts on this > > swarm lure situation? > > > Sure. Now that you're hopelessly contaminated, do you have your affairs > in order? Got a Will drawn up? I though my brain damage from sniffing > those things was bad, can't imagine what will happen to you now that > you've actually absorbed that stuff thru the skin. Hell, why don't you > just eat the things and get it over with??? > > For what time you have left you may as well hang the traps back out for > another try. What sort of location are you selecting for the traps? I > have 55 acres and at least 6 traps out. Each year the trap near my pond > catches at least two swarms while the other traps remain empty. In the > immediate vicinity of the pond are russian olives, persimmons, and > ledino(sp) clover, all of which seem to attract lots of bees. Apparently > the promise of a good food & water supply is attractive to swarms. > Unfortunately for them, I then haul them to a God forsaken corner of my > property where they spend their last days eking out a living. Course, > that's gotta be better than dying a painful death from swarm lure > contamination. > > > > :) > > AL Article 29641 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Lines: 11 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: beecrofter@aol.com (BeeCrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 09 May 2001 22:53:42 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: York Message-ID: <20010509185342.26438.00002866@ng-fq1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29641 York had some problems with mites and some problems with foulbrood in the midnite line. They are able to ship all but midnites now. This outfit has always been good to me and their stock has performed well for me. Article 29642 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey04.news.aol.com!not-for-mail Lines: 8 X-Admin: news@aol.com From: billshsfrm@aol.com (BillsHsFrm) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Date: 09 May 2001 23:35:49 GMT References: <20010508225402.09090.00002198@ng-cs1.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Subject: Re: York Bees Message-ID: <20010509193549.22376.00001643@ng-mr1.aol.com> Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29642 Dave We called our supplier up here and they gave me two 3# packages as replacements. Did not see any Drones in these packages, but quit a few dead on the bottom. I united the orig. two with two that were doing good, minus the queens. So I have four hives, two with 3#and2# packages and two with 3# packages. I'm a first year beekeeper and I have an old beekeeper helping me out (Pete) He had the same problem and when I seen York mentioned I was wondering. I'm trying for comb honey this year and any info is appreciated Thanks Dave Bill Article 29643 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!nntp1.onemain.com.POSTED!not-for-mail Message-ID: <3AF9F46F.7569E62E@midwest.net> From: AL X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Swarm Lures--New Question References: <3AF96759.95E21809@bsu.edu> <3AF99B2B.E33E039D@midwest.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 62 Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 18:52:47 -0700 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.235.28.10 X-Complaints-To: abuse@onemain.com X-Trace: nntp1.onemain.com 989451936 208.235.28.10 (Wed, 09 May 2001 19:45:36 EDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 19:45:36 EDT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29643 Not to mention lacking bladder and bowel control. AL Me wrote: > > I've also heard that it causes your children to be born toothless and > naked!!!! > > -- > Mark (The Little/Coldiron Farm) > > If what you're doing seems too hard..., > You're probably doing it wrong. :-) > "AL" wrote in message > news:3AF99B2B.E33E039D@midwest.net... > > "Dale A. Scheidler" wrote: > > > > > > I purchased swarm lures a year ago and had two swarm boxes that they > > > were installed into. No swarms had ever entered. Last night these > > > boxes were opened and discovered that the liquid lure was still present > > > after a year of exposure! I popped the cap off and it smelled like > > > lemon furniture polish. The instructions say to leave the caps on and > > > that the pheromone lasts about 3 months. I poked a very small hole in > > > the cap to make sure that the pheromone escapes. Any thoughts on this > > > swarm lure situation? > > > > > > Sure. Now that you're hopelessly contaminated, do you have your affairs > > in order? Got a Will drawn up? I though my brain damage from sniffing > > those things was bad, can't imagine what will happen to you now that > > you've actually absorbed that stuff thru the skin. Hell, why don't you > > just eat the things and get it over with??? > > > > For what time you have left you may as well hang the traps back out for > > another try. What sort of location are you selecting for the traps? I > > have 55 acres and at least 6 traps out. Each year the trap near my pond > > catches at least two swarms while the other traps remain empty. In the > > immediate vicinity of the pond are russian olives, persimmons, and > > ledino(sp) clover, all of which seem to attract lots of bees. Apparently > > the promise of a good food & water supply is attractive to swarms. > > Unfortunately for them, I then haul them to a God forsaken corner of my > > property where they spend their last days eking out a living. Course, > > that's gotta be better than dying a painful death from swarm lure > > contamination. > > > > > > > > :) > > > > AL -- ************************************************* It's not the pace of life that concerns me, it's the sudden stop at the end. ************************************************* Article 29644 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "K Adney" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping,alt.hobbies.beekeeping References: <3aee093f@news.turbotek.net> Subject: Re: stings Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 17:32:05 -0700 Lines: 15 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: tc1-47.reachone.com Message-ID: <3af9e07a@news.turbotek.net> X-Trace: 9 May 2001 17:27:38 -0700, tc1-47.reachone.com Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!nwnews.wa.com!nntp2.savvis.net!news.turbotek.net!tc1-47.reachone.com Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29644 alt.hobbies.beekeeping:300 Peter Edwards wrote in message ... > >Me too. A bee sting hurts for perhaps 15 to 30 seconds and then is >forgotten, whereas a wasp sting gives discomfort for 2-3 days. Tain't the initial sting, it's the big red itchy area for the next 3-4 days. Inadvertantly I took someone's advice and accidently got stung twice more, so I guess I'm on my way to immunity. I went barehanded the first year but I'm gloved now (4th year). Tain't bad, but it isn't my favorite part of beekeeping...:-) ken Article 29645 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: sharp7@mailops.com (Jim Sharp) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: First ever swarm call Date: Sat, 05 May 2001 18:32:32 GMT Reply-To: sharp7@mailops.com Message-ID: <3af44670.24107828@news.mailops.com> References: X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.157.112.183 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.157.112.183 X-Trace: excalibur.gbmtech.net 989087372 64.157.112.183 (5 May 2001 14:29:32 EST) Organization: GBM Technologies Ltd Lines: 25 X-Authenticated-User: sharp7 X-Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 127.0.0.1 Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!crtntx1-snf1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!news-feeds.jump.net!uunet!dfw.uu.net!arb.uu.net!nyc.uu.net!excalibur.gbmtech.net Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29645 I just got my first swarm too and it went about the same as yours, really easy. I shook them into a NUC and then came back at night and collected them. I had a whole neighborhood watching as I did it. The best part was when one of the neighbors asked about the process and I confessed that this was my first one! Needless to say I was given plenty of room! Jim On Wed, 2 May 2001 11:07:42 -0500, "Bill Daniels" wrote: >I am starting my third season as a beekeeper and took my first ever swarm >call this morning. > >A fellow here in my community called me on the phone this morning to gather >a swarm that had paused in a small oak tree in his front yard. He said that >our local club's immediate past president had given him my name since I was >located close by. Article 29646 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.cwix.com!ncar!noao.edu!math.arizona.edu!news.Arizona.EDU!not-for-mail From: John Edwards Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: York Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 17:20:21 -0700 Organization: Hayden Bee Research Center, USDA-ARS,Tucson, Arizona Lines: 11 Message-ID: <3AF9DEC4.D3BC2B6@tucson.ars.ag.gov> References: <20010509185342.26438.00002866@ng-fq1.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: feral-bee.tucson.ars.ag.gov Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.77 [en] (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en,pdf Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29646 Thanks for the info - I'd hate to see them go under. - John Edwards, Tucson BeeCrofter wrote: > York had some problems with mites and some problems with foulbrood in the > midnite line. > They are able to ship all but midnites now. > This outfit has always been good to me and their stock has performed well for > me. Article 29647 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!/news!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dave" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Super small swarm?? - see picture Lines: 16 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: <20oK6.5201$vf6.578670@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 03:35:26 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.13.109.136 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com 989465726 65.13.109.136 (Wed, 09 May 2001 20:35:26 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 09 May 2001 20:35:26 PDT Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29647 I checked on my 3 hives (just from the outside today), I found a small clump of bees in one of the trees, or should I say on a leaf, in my avocado grove. It was about 30 feet from the hives. I have two new hives this year and one I started last year. See picture http://www.kernweb.com/bees.jpg As you can see, there are only about 25 or so bees. What are they doing? Is this a small swarm at rest? Thanks for help with my rookie question. Dave Article 29648 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!/news!logbridge.uoregon.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!news.mindspring.net!not-for-mail From: "David" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Swarms and Smoke Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 00:29:09 -0400 Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 20 Message-ID: <9dd4b6$uh0$1@slb3.atl.mindspring.net> References: <3AF3E346.FD70BF14@crosslink.net><20010505154238.09776.00001353@ng-mn1.aol.com><9d52fs$qsl$1@slb4.atl.mindspring.net> <9d7q3b$3tj$1@slb3.atl.mindspring.net> Reply-To: "David" NNTP-Posting-Host: d1.56.1a.bc X-Server-Date: 10 May 2001 04:10:14 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29648 Update. Checked the hive this evening. It is full of bees again. I presume a swarm found the hive and they liked the look of it and took up residence. David David wrote in message news:9d7q3b$3tj$1@slb3.atl.mindspring.net... > Had to go out of town that evening, I did not want to move them in the > middle of the day. They seemed to be setteling down O.K. so I thought I > could move them next evening just before dark. By then they had gone. > I only had foundation for the brood chamber but I did have some frames that > had just been extracted. I put on a super with those frames in it hoping > that may help. > Article 29649 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Serving Small Business, Inc" References: <9dba3r$gtmff$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> <9dbf7l$hk28a$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> Subject: Re: York Bees Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 12:37:02 -0400 Lines: 70 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 Message-ID: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping NNTP-Posting-Host: 1cust138.tnt1.manassas.va.da.uu.net 63.23.113.138 Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!/news!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.cwix.com!cpmsnbbsb04!cpmsnbbsa09 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29649 The quarantine on York Bee Company has been lifted with the exception of shipments containing Mid-Nite queens. The quarantine was imposed after Georgia apiary inspectors discovered proper mite treatment was not being used by York Bee. The problems were isolated to yards containing Mid-Nite bees. The quarantine was amended after York Bee agreed not to ship bees from these yards. Shipment of Italian and other strains by York Bee has resumed. Shipment of Mid-Nite queens/packages is still prohibited. Sincerely, Keith Tignor State Apiarist/Endangered Species Coordinator Office of Plant and Pest Services Va. Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services "J&DC" wrote in message news:i8dK6.10390$oa2.252123@news6.giganews.com... > I just spoke with york bee co. > They said they were running as usual. They are about a week behind on > orders. The phone system will ring even if they are on the line and they > said they are on the line most of the time. Thats why it just rings and > rings. My package was to be shipped on 5/9 and is now shipping 5/15. I > spoke with the same woman who took my order on 4/19 and she didn't know > anything about a quarantine. > Dave > "Cudd" wrote in message > news:sZbK6.68$oH.2278@newsfeed.slurp.net... > > Well... what was the deal? Please enlighten us. > > > > Robert > > > > BeeFarmer wrote in message > > news:9dbf7l$hk28a$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de... > > > I just called GA. Agriculture. and found out the issue. No need to > reply. > > > -- > > > BeeFarmer > > > BeeFarmer@HomeStead.Com > > > http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html > > > > > > > > > > > > "BeeFarmer" wrote in message > > > news:9dba3r$gtmff$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de... > > > > Could someone expand on the issue with York Bees where a Newsgroup > > poster > > > > posted that the bees have been quarantined and anyone who has received > > > > queens needs to call the GA. Bee Inspector. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > BeeFarmer > > > > BeeFarmer@HomeStead.Com > > > > http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Article 29650 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!/news!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news-feed.riddles.org.uk!sn-xit-03!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "CharlesW" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Super small swarm?? - see picture Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 08:07:07 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <20oK6.5201$vf6.578670@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4133.2400 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 25 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29650 I don't see a queen. Looks to me like they found something sweet on the leaf and there is just a bunch of them trying to get to it. "Dave" wrote in message news:20oK6.5201$vf6.578670@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com... > I checked on my 3 hives (just from the outside today), I found a small > clump of bees in one of the trees, or should I say on a leaf, in my avocado > grove. It was about 30 feet from the hives. I have two new hives this year > and one I started last year. > > See picture http://www.kernweb.com/bees.jpg > > As you can see, there are only about 25 or so bees. What are they doing? > Is this a small swarm at rest? > > Thanks for help with my rookie question. > > Dave > > > Article 29651 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!europa.netcrusader.net!207.172.3.44!feed2.news.rcn.net!feed1.news.rcn.net!rcn!not-for-mail From: lucien winslow Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: nucs Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 10:32:54 -0500 Lines: 3 Message-ID: <3AFAB4A6.8602E9D5@erols.com> Reply-To: lwinslow@erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: UmFuZG9tSVZgb1Yqj1YvVWOWdaoF7QrrBiX5dU9dzSw3xPWTQG/ZizzKa7T8ahqW X-Complaints-To: abuse@rcn.com NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 May 2001 14:34:13 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 (Macintosh; I; PPC) X-Accept-Language: en Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29651 whats the normal time for a nuc to be est , left my hive 3 wks ago and havent heard yet, new to beekeeping so I am not sue Article 29652 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!/news!hammer.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!wn4feed!worldnet.att.net!135.173.83.71!wnfilter1!worldnet-localpost!bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "George Styer" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <20oK6.5201$vf6.578670@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com> Subject: Re: Super small swarm?? - see picture Lines: 34 Organization: Productive Solutions X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: <7wyK6.14679$4f7.1162031@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 15:32:19 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.73.41.129 X-Complaints-To: abuse@worldnet.att.net X-Trace: bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net 989508739 12.73.41.129 (Thu, 10 May 2001 15:32:19 GMT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 15:32:19 GMT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29652 Could be the stragglers from a larger swarm that were out scouting when the others left. Nice resolution and contrast on the pic. What kind of camera did you use? -- Geo Sacramento, in California's great Central Valley "Honey is sweet but the bee stings" gstyLer@att.net To respond via email, get the "L" out of there "Dave" wrote in message news:20oK6.5201$vf6.578670@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com... > I checked on my 3 hives (just from the outside today), I found a small > clump of bees in one of the trees, or should I say on a leaf, in my avocado > grove. It was about 30 feet from the hives. I have two new hives this year > and one I started last year. > > See picture http://www.kernweb.com/bees.jpg > > As you can see, there are only about 25 or so bees. What are they doing? > Is this a small swarm at rest? > > Thanks for help with my rookie question. > > Dave > > > Article 29653 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Peter & Colette" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: How do I find hive??? Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 19:57:53 +0200 Lines: 16 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 NNTP-Posting-Host: vic-dial-196-30-238-191.mweb.co.za Message-ID: <3afad64f.0@news1.mweb.co.za> X-Trace: 10 May 2001 19:56:31 +0200, vic-dial-196-30-238-191.mweb.co.za Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!nntp.flash.net!newspeer.monmouth.com!nntp.msen.com!enews.sgi.com!iafrica.com!news1.mweb.co.za!vic-dial-196-30-238-191.mweb.co.za Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29653 There are lots of bees (not swarming, I've seen that - just very noisy pollinating) in some bushes outside my kitchen and I would very much like to know where those particular bees come from. Is there any way that I can track them back to their hive? This is certainly a fascinating site. I got stung on the neck, below my chin last night, and I now look like Marlon Brando. I'm certainly not going to terminate them. I live in the country, 'bout 40km outside of Johannesburg,SA, and I've always played with the idea of keeping bees. I would love to find the swarm to see if they could easily be coaxed into a proper hive. thanx Peter Butler Article 29654 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!newsfeed.logical.net!not-for-mail From: "huestis" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: 1 or 2 brood chambers?? Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 13:54:24 -0700 Organization: Logical Net Lines: 7 Message-ID: <9dekug$1fo$1@newsfeed.logical.net> References: <7crJ6.21948$4I5.2904004@news1.rdc1.mb.home.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ip-209-23-10-79.modem.logical.net X-Trace: newsfeed.logical.net 989517584 1528 209.23.10.79 (10 May 2001 17:59:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: news@logical.net NNTP-Posting-Date: 10 May 2001 17:59:44 GMT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29654 I use three brood chambers. Cuts starvation down to very low levels exceptional queens have lots o' room. Also depends on race of bee. There not all exactly the same you know! Clay Article 29655 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Peter & Colette" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: NUC?? /from non-beekeeper Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:04:12 +0200 Lines: 7 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2314.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 NNTP-Posting-Host: vic-dial-196-30-238-191.mweb.co.za Message-ID: <3afad7ca.0@news1.mweb.co.za> X-Trace: 10 May 2001 20:02:50 +0200, vic-dial-196-30-238-191.mweb.co.za Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!europa.netcrusader.net!209.113.65.250!korova.insync.net!enews.sgi.com!iafrica.com!news1.mweb.co.za!vic-dial-196-30-238-191.mweb.co.za Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29655 OK, what's a nuc? thanks Peter Butler Vlakfontein Article 29656 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!/news!EU.net!blackbush.xlink.net!news0.de.colt.net!colt.net!newspeer.clara.net!news.clara.net!peernews!peer.cwci.net!news2-hme0.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Peter Edwards" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3afad7ca.0@news1.mweb.co.za> Subject: Re: NUC?? /from non-beekeeper Lines: 17 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: <58CK6.11593$mB4.48578@news2-hme0> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:39:42 +0100 NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.137.127.126 X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@ic24.net X-Trace: news2-hme0 989523585 212.137.127.126 (Thu, 10 May 2001 20:39:45 BST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:39:45 BST Organization: www.ic24.net Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29656 Nucleus. A small colony, typically perhaps on 4-5 frames - but can be very small with just a cupful of bees.. Sometimes term is used to refer to the colony and the small hive (nuc box) in which it is housed. Nucs are used a great deal for mating new queens. "Peter & Colette" wrote in message news:3afad7ca.0@news1.mweb.co.za... > OK, what's a nuc? > > thanks > Peter Butler > Vlakfontein > > Article 29657 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!arclight.uoregon.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "H. Rogers" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: NUC?? /from non-beekeeper Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 16:16:08 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3AFAF708.8962A9F9@arkansas.net> Reply-To: hrogers@arkansas.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-{C-UDP; OWL-18113} (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3afad7ca.0@news1.mweb.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 16 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29657 Howdy P & C -- "Nuc" is just short for Nucleus = the start or beginning of a larger thing to come. Pete ****************** Peter & Colette wrote: > OK, what's a nuc? > > thanks > Peter Butler > Vlakfontein Article 29658 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "H. Rogers" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: How do I find hive??? Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 16:22:00 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3AFAF867.81151CE2@arkansas.net> Reply-To: hrogers@arkansas.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-{C-UDP; OWL-18113} (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <3afad64f.0@news1.mweb.co.za> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 33 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29658 Howdy P&C -- "Coursing" is the term used to determine where the home of the field bees is. You might try sprinkling flour on a few of the bees and watch to see which direction they go. Then go that direction about a quarter of a mile and put out a little honey on a board or stump. If bees come to this, sprinkle flour on them and repeat the process until the bees fly back toward where you started. This will pinpoint the approximate location of the home colony. This works better when there is no honey flow; then the bees will be looking for any source of food. During a good honey flow, they prefer nature's flowers. Pete **************** Peter & Colette wrote: > There are lots of bees (not swarming, I've seen that - just very noisy > pollinating) in some bushes outside my kitchen and I would very much like to > know where those particular bees come from. Is there any way that I can > track them back to their hive? > > This is certainly a fascinating site. I got stung on the neck, below my chin > last night, and I now look like Marlon Brando. I'm certainly not going to > terminate them. I live in the country, 'bout 40km outside of > Johannesburg,SA, and I've always played with the idea of keeping bees. I > would love to find the swarm to see if they could easily be coaxed into a > proper hive. > > thanx > Peter Butler Article 29659 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "Teri Bachus" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Super small swarm?? - see picture Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 18:24:42 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: References: <20oK6.5201$vf6.578670@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com> X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.3018.1300 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.3018.1300 X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 5 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29659 where are you located (any ahb?)...is that varroa on the upper abdomen of the lowest-left bee in the picture? Article 29660 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!/news!logbridge.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "H. Rogers" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: ChalkBrood Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 18:09:01 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3AFB117D.DAD4870A@arkansas.net> Reply-To: hrogers@arkansas.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-{C-UDP; OWL-18113} (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------F860E31B57EAB20BBB617E24" X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 29 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29660 --------------F860E31B57EAB20BBB617E24 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Howdy All -- After all these years, I have a couple of colonies with Chalk Brood. I have searched the literature and find no treatment listed. Hygienic bees is recommended, but that's a long term endeavor, not an immediate help. Have any of you folks had experience with this problem? Pete --------------F860E31B57EAB20BBB617E24 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Howdy All --

  After all these years, I have a couple of colonies with Chalk Brood.  I have searched the literature and find no treatment listed. Hygienic bees is recommended, but that's a long term endeavor, not an immediate help. Have any of you folks had experience with this problem?

    Pete --------------F860E31B57EAB20BBB617E24-- Article 29661 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn1feed!wn4feed!worldnet.att.net!24.0.0.38!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dave" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <20oK6.5201$vf6.578670@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com> <7wyK6.14679$4f7.1162031@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Subject: Re: Super small swarm?? - see picture Lines: 45 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: <9uFK6.7338$vf6.662417@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com> Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 23:28:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.13.109.136 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com 989537285 65.13.109.136 (Thu, 10 May 2001 16:28:05 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 16:28:05 PDT Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29661 Nikon 880. I then used software to zoom in and crop it to a smaller size. Thanks for the input. Dave "George Styer" wrote in message news:7wyK6.14679$4f7.1162031@bgtnsc06-news.ops.worldnet.att.net... > Could be the stragglers from a larger swarm that were out scouting when the > others left. Nice resolution and contrast on the pic. What kind of camera > did you use? > > -- > Geo > Sacramento, in California's great Central Valley > "Honey is sweet but the bee stings" > gstyLer@att.net > To respond via email, get the "L" out of there > > > "Dave" wrote in message > news:20oK6.5201$vf6.578670@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com... > > I checked on my 3 hives (just from the outside today), I found a small > > clump of bees in one of the trees, or should I say on a leaf, in my > avocado > > grove. It was about 30 feet from the hives. I have two new hives this > year > > and one I started last year. > > > > See picture http://www.kernweb.com/bees.jpg > > > > As you can see, there are only about 25 or so bees. What are they doing? > > Is this a small swarm at rest? > > > > Thanks for help with my rookie question. > > > > Dave > > > > > > > > Article 29662 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!/news!hammer.uoregon.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!look.ca!newshub2.rdc1.sfba.home.com!news.home.com!news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dave" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <20oK6.5201$vf6.578670@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com> Subject: Re: Super small swarm?? - see picture Lines: 14 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Message-ID: Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 23:29:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 65.13.109.136 X-Complaints-To: abuse@home.net X-Trace: news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com 989537398 65.13.109.136 (Thu, 10 May 2001 16:29:58 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 16:29:58 PDT Organization: Excite@Home - The Leader in Broadband http://home.com/faster Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29662 I'm not sure about ahb or varroa. I doubt ahb as the hives are very, very tame and easy to work with. I live in Poway, CA a suburb or San Diego. Dave "Teri Bachus" wrote in message news:tfm5a02k2nh4de@corp.supernews.com... > where are you located (any ahb?)...is that varroa on the upper abdomen of > the lowest-left bee in the picture? > > > Article 29663 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "K Adney" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <3AFB117D.DAD4870A@arkansas.net> Subject: Re: ChalkBrood Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 20:18:06 -0700 Lines: 69 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0033_01C0D98E.531BFB20" X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.3110.1 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.3110.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: tc1-45.reachone.com Message-ID: <3afb58f8@news.turbotek.net> X-Trace: 10 May 2001 20:14:00 -0700, tc1-45.reachone.com Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!europa.netcrusader.net!192.148.253.68!netnews.com!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!spacestar!feed.news.qwest.net!news.turbotek.net!tc1-45.reachone.com Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29663 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C0D98E.531BFB20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I've no experience whatsoever, but can quote from Diana Sammataro: The spores of the fungus are resistant to degradation and can be = viable for 15 years. You can try the following: move hives to a sunny location, remove infected combs and burn them, add = bees to strenthen the weakened, diseased colony, requeen with hygenic = stock, feed syrup and protein supplements to keep the colony strong and = healthy. H. Rogers wrote in message <3AFB117D.DAD4870A@arkansas.net>... Howdy All --=20 After all these years, I have a couple of colonies with Chalk Brood. = I have searched the literature and find no treatment listed. Hygienic = bees is recommended, but that's a long term endeavor, not an immediate = help. Have any of you folks had experience with this problem?=20 Pete=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C0D98E.531BFB20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

I've no experience whatsoever, but can quote from = Diana=20 Sammataro:
     The spores of the fungus = are=20 resistant to degradation and can be viable for 15 years.  You can = try the=20 following:
move hives to a sunny location, remove infected = combs and burn=20 them, add bees to strenthen the weakened, diseased colony, requeen with = hygenic=20 stock, feed syrup and protein supplements to keep the colony strong and=20 healthy.
H. Rogers wrote in message <3AFB117D.DAD4870A@arkansas= .net>...
Howdy=20 All --=20

  After all these years, I have a couple of colonies with = Chalk=20 Brood.  I have searched the literature and find no treatment = listed.=20 Hygienic bees is recommended, but that's a long term endeavor, not an=20 immediate help. Have any of you folks had experience with this=20 problem?=20

    Pete

------=_NextPart_000_0033_01C0D98E.531BFB20-- Article 29664 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!newsfeed.stanford.edu!sn-xit-01!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "H. Rogers" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Super small swarm?? - see picture Date: Thu, 10 May 2001 22:41:13 -0400 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <3AFB5148.CCDB1CB7@arkansas.net> Reply-To: hrogers@arkansas.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.72 [en]C-{C-UDP; OWL-18113} (Win95; I) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <20oK6.5201$vf6.578670@news1.rdc1.sdca.home.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com Lines: 25 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29664 Howdy Dave -- Are those white objects just above the little bunch of bees new wax. Looks like it might be. If so, these were a few who did not leave with a swarm which had been clustered just above them. Pete ************* Dave wrote: > I checked on my 3 hives (just from the outside today), I found a small > clump of bees in one of the trees, or should I say on a leaf, in my avocado > grove. It was about 30 feet from the hives. I have two new hives this year > and one I started last year. > > See picture http://www.kernweb.com/bees.jpg > > As you can see, there are only about 25 or so bees. What are they doing? > Is this a small swarm at rest? > > Thanks for help with my rookie question. > > Dave Article 29665 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!/news!newsfeed.utk.edu!feed2.onemain.com!feed1.onemain.com!europa.netcrusader.net!208.184.7.66!newsfeed.skycache.com!Cidera!news-reader.ntrnet.net!uunet!ash.uu.net!xyzzy!nntp From: "Billy Y. Smart II" Subject: Re: How do I find hive??? X-Nntp-Posting-Host: rs498032.ks.boeing.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <3AFB676C.E0D20704@nospam.boeing.com> Sender: nntp@news.boeing.com (Boeing NNTP News Access) Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: Tooling Numeric Control Programming - Wichita Division X-Accept-Language: en References: <3afad64f.0@news1.mweb.co.za> <3AFAF867.81151CE2@arkansas.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 04:15:40 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; AIX 4.3) Lines: 46 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29665 What is the purpose of the flour? Does it make the bees easier to see? The problem I have when trying to line them is I lose sight of them before they get more than 30 or so yards away. "H. Rogers" wrote: > > Howdy P&C -- > > "Coursing" is the term used to determine where the home of the field bees > is. You might try sprinkling flour on a few of the bees and watch to see which > direction they go. Then go that direction about a quarter of a mile and put out > a little honey on a board or stump. If bees come to this, sprinkle flour on > them and repeat the process until the bees fly back toward where you started. > This will pinpoint > the approximate location of the home colony. > > This works better when there is no honey flow; then the bees will be looking > for any source of food. During a good honey flow, they prefer nature's flowers. > > Pete > **************** > > Peter & Colette wrote: > > > There are lots of bees (not swarming, I've seen that - just very noisy > > pollinating) in some bushes outside my kitchen and I would very much like to > > know where those particular bees come from. Is there any way that I can > > track them back to their hive? > > > > This is certainly a fascinating site. I got stung on the neck, below my chin > > last night, and I now look like Marlon Brando. I'm certainly not going to > > terminate them. I live in the country, 'bout 40km outside of > > Johannesburg,SA, and I've always played with the idea of keeping bees. I > > would love to find the swarm to see if they could easily be coaxed into a > > proper hive. > > > > thanx > > Peter Butler -- Billy Y. Smart II /* If the opinions expressed herein reflect those of the */ /* Boeing Company, it would be entirely coincidental. */ /* Remove the "NOSPAM" from the address to reply */ Article 29666 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!/news!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newspeer.radix.net!news1.radix.net!not-for-mail From: honeybs@radix.net (beekeep) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: NUC?? /from non-beekeeper Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 11:33:04 GMT Organization: RadixNet Internet Services Lines: 18 Message-ID: <3afbcd5a.70164519@news1.radix.net> References: <3afad7ca.0@news1.mweb.co.za> NNTP-Posting-Host: p8.a4.du.radix.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.21/32.243 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29666 On Thu, 10 May 2001 20:04:12 +0200, "Peter & Colette" wrote: >OK, what's a nuc? > >thanks >Peter Butler >Vlakfontein > > According to the last USDA pollenation contract that I saw it is a nuclear beehive! I guess it glows in the dark. NUCS are small hives of 4 to 5 frames complete with a laying queen. They are used to start new hives as an alternative to package bees. beekeep Article 29667 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!63.100.169.66!not-for-mail From: "BeeFarmer" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: How do I find hive??? Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 08:24:52 -0400 Lines: 36 Message-ID: <9dglnr$i7j9d$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> References: <3afad64f.0@news1.mweb.co.za> Reply-To: "BeeFarmer" NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.100.169.66 X-Trace: fu-berlin.de 989583932 19123501 63.100.169.66 (16 [66812]) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2462.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2462.0000 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29667 Catch several of them.. sprinkle with flower release them one as you run like hell to chase them to see where it is going... this is where the flower comes in so you can see them.. then when you either have a heart attack trying to catch it or no longer see it release another... then follow it.. eventually you will find their home.... well.. hope they don't come from different sources or you will get dizzy. -- BeeFarmer BeeFarmer@HomeStead.Com http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html "Peter & Colette" wrote in message news:3afad64f.0@news1.mweb.co.za... > There are lots of bees (not swarming, I've seen that - just very noisy > pollinating) in some bushes outside my kitchen and I would very much like to > know where those particular bees come from. Is there any way that I can > track them back to their hive? > > This is certainly a fascinating site. I got stung on the neck, below my chin > last night, and I now look like Marlon Brando. I'm certainly not going to > terminate them. I live in the country, 'bout 40km outside of > Johannesburg,SA, and I've always played with the idea of keeping bees. I > would love to find the swarm to see if they could easily be coaxed into a > proper hive. > > thanx > Peter Butler > > Article 29668 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.telusplanet.net!news0.telusplanet.net.POSTED!not-for-mail Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Splitting a hive... From: allend@internode.net (Allen Dick) References: <3AF95EE2.1AB1CE93@yahoo.com> Message-ID: User-Agent: Xnews/4.04.10 Lines: 4 Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 12:54:58 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.161.229.177 X-Trace: news0.telusplanet.net 989585698 198.161.229.177 (Fri, 11 May 2001 06:54:58 MDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 06:54:58 MDT Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29668 I wrote quite a lot about splitting a few years back and it is under "Spring Management" at http://www.internode.net/HoneyBee/ > How do I split a hive to create a new hive? Article 29669 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: news2.isis.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!newsfeed.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!nntp.giganews.com!nntp3.aus1.giganews.com!news6.giganews.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "J&DC" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <9dba3r$gtmff$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> <9dbf7l$hk28a$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> <9dbvn7$h2cn8$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de> Subject: Re: York Bees Lines: 75 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2919.6600 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 11 May 2001 08:04:29 CDT Organization: Giganews.Com - Premium News Outsourcing X-Trace: sv3-rKlN9uplXRIxUUMkNHx2/kb9K4v6QM2v52I0/u6yNiBrY0/RPjF5VbQer3TylacNgUQS0R41G19PLml!X9xFTR7WwJZH1+KVp0tXTSbNwbEmA1x84qJG32Pbdg+LMzRg4eB3GnvWZ0QSHg2r1pa/PEeDpzuo!EGzlOyFY X-Complaints-To: abuse@GigaNews.Com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: dmca@giganews.com X-Abuse-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly Date: Wed, 9 May 2001 11:49:10 -0400 Xref: news2.isis.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:29669 She just called me back, The quarantine was for failing to have strips for hive beatles in one of there apiaries. She told me the name of the chemical but I don't remember it. She said that the strips were removed by an employee and the quarantine was for 24 hrs. They are still shipping as I stated before and are taking orders for Italian and starlines for shipping at the end of this month. This is only what they told me on the phone I can't confirm any of it but my package will be here on or around the 15th. Dave "BeeFarmer" wrote in message news:9dbvn7$h2cn8$1@ID-66812.news.dfncis.de... > I don't think you got all the info. If you would like more info please > email me directly. > > -- > BeeFarmer > BeeFarmer@HomeStead.Com > http://www.homestead.com/BeeKeepers/Opening.html > > > > "J&DC" wrote in message > news:i8dK6.10390$oa2.252123@news6.giganews.com... > > I just spoke with york bee co. > > They said they were running as usual. They are about a week behind on > > orders. The phone system will ring even if they are on the