Article 12087 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!205.252.116.205.MISMATCH!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!205.139.56.103!news.pe.net!ns From: amschelp@pe.net (Peter Amschel) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Big Hive Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 04:17:36 GMT Organization: PE.net - Internet access from the Press-Enterprise Company Lines: 32 Message-ID: <6ibi92$7lu$1@lasierra.pe.net> References: <354916CE.384B5ED9@valley.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: hem02ppp14.pe.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12087 Go for it, Bill! Allez-Y! >greetings, > >well, for what it's worth, i'm planning to make my 2 deep brood box hobby hive >[say that 5 times fast] a 3 deep brood box hobby hive this year. i've emailed >with several people over the winter, who said that their 3 box hives were a >lot stronger than 2 box hives. so, figured i'd give it a shot. from what >i've read and been told a good queen should lay in all 3 boxes during the >season, and by winter the top box should be full of honey. maybe it's >overkill for them as far as winter stores are concerned, but as a hobbyist i'd >rather be safe than sorry. besides, the colony will probably be a lot larger >going into the winter and might need those extra stores, getting off to a >faster start in the spring. i'll probably post my results here, for those who >are interested. > >hope this helps, > >bill > >########################################## > >don't shoot me, i'm only the guitar player > >bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] >greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] >http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 > > Article 12088 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!205.139.56.103!news.pe.net!ns From: amschelp@pe.net (Peter Amschel) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Help- Dead Queen Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 04:23:24 GMT Organization: PE.net - Internet access from the Press-Enterprise Company Lines: 21 Message-ID: <6ibijv$7lu$2@lasierra.pe.net> References: <35493C0D.8711C8BF@access.mountain.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: hem02ppp14.pe.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12088 What a klutz Herschel! :0) In the first place you shouldn't panic when you see swarm cells. The bees might just make them for fun, not necessarily just for supercedure. Mike the Beekeeper utilises these swarm cells for other hives. Secondly, with these Langstroth hives I think you have to quickly give the bees more space if it looks like they might be getting ready to swarm, not divide out their colony. In article <35493C0D.8711C8BF@access.mountain.net>, Herschel Shamblin wrote: >I recently split a colony because it was preparing to swarm-[several >queen cells found] when I did this I ended up with two quenelles >colonies. I believe I put the old queen with the new queen in one hive >and they killed each other ordered two more queens one colony has >accepted her but the other did not. I looked all through the colony >today and could not find the marked queen, so I looked on the ground in >front of hive entrance and there she laid DEAD.The bees are very >aggressive also, normally they are gentle.Any advice is appreciated. > Article 12089 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!interpath.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!newsxfer.visi.net!news.infi.net!not-for-mail From: FMCraig Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Big Hive Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 01:01:31 -0400 Organization: InfiNet Lines: 74 Message-ID: <3549572B.1692@lex.infi.net> References: Reply-To: elliegrl@lex.infi.net NNTP-Posting-Host: pm4-176.lex.infi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12089 Sir, About the extra frames of honey: feeding outside the hive can encourage robbing, and may not be the best approach. It might be better to swap them out with empty comb, and save the capped honey to feed in the spring. FMCraig Ira Seskin wrote: > > Hi all.. and happy Bee season . Due to several swarms last season , in the > fall I decided to combine two hives into one strong hive. In doing so, in > order to assure good food stores, I wound up with a three hive body > configuration going into Winter.One was almost all honey. With good early > spring management, ( feeding, medication, hive body rotation with the top > body going to the bottom, and the second ond hive body about to be rotated > and switched with the top) I have an incredibly strong colony, lots of > brood from a fall queen, good pollen coming in, and happy bees. > > I have been advised by my bee teacher ( and Guru) to wean out one of the > hive bodies, and get it down to a 2 hive body colony before Winter. Is > this necessary? It wintered incredibly well ( its a hobby hive, -had a > plywood "house" over it ( one foot larger all around with provsions for > removing moisture) sheltering it from the wind and elements. Why cant it > stay as a three body "superhive" ? I expect to be supering in two weeks, > and dont mind the height , or the weight problems. > > All points of view appreciated.. I just hate to break up a really strong > hive, already have a new startup colony this Spring, and dont have room > for a third ( very urban beekeeping here.. and wife would get real mad > since I promised that the second hive was the last).. > > Related Question. I have three frames from last season in that hive still > full of honey. Do I leave them, or remove them and let them eat it outside > saving the comb? > > Thanks. > > -I- > > -- > _ > /_/_ .'''. > =O(_)))) ...' `. > \_\ `. .'''B'zzzzzzzzzzz > `..' > > /| __ > / | ,-~ / > Y :| // / > | jj /( .^ > >-"~"-v" > / Y > jo o | > ( ~T~ j > >._-' _./ > / "~" | I AM HAVING A > Y _, | BAD > /| ;-"~ _ l HARE DAY > / l/ ,-"~ \ > \//\/ .- \ > Y / Y* > l I ! > ]\ _\ /"\ > (" ~----( ~ Y. ) > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > ->Bugs the Wonder Bunny<- > April 1993- November 15, 1997 > > Ira_seskin@bmugbos.org for e-mail, but NO attachments > iraseski@xensei.com for e-mail WITH attachments > > "Live Free or Die" > > Article 12090 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!208.131.160.208!news.infi.net!not-for-mail From: FMCraig Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Help- Dead Queen Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 00:55:55 -0400 Organization: InfiNet Lines: 17 Message-ID: <354955DB.3419@lex.infi.net> References: <35493C0D.8711C8BF@access.mountain.net> Reply-To: elliegrl@lex.infi.net NNTP-Posting-Host: pm4-176.lex.infi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12090 Sir, Either requeen with a nice, gentle Italian or Carniolan (try, try, again) or scuttle them (a waste). The gentle queen, if accepted, will replace the redneck bees in a few weeks. Meanwhile, the rednecks will be drawing comb and storing food for the gentle bees to come... FMCraig Herschel Shamblin wrote: > > I recently split a colony because it was preparing to swarm-[several > queen cells found] when I did this I ended up with two quenelles > colonies. I believe I put the old queen with the new queen in one hive > and they killed each other ordered two more queens one colony has > accepted her but the other did not. I looked all through the colony > today and could not find the marked queen, so I looked on the ground in > front of hive entrance and there she laid DEAD.The bees are very > aggressive also, normally they are gentle.Any advice is appreciated. Article 12091 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsxfer.visi.net!news.infi.net!not-for-mail From: FMCraig Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: bees won't behave Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 00:57:14 -0400 Organization: InfiNet Lines: 23 Message-ID: <3549562A.53D4@lex.infi.net> References: <3544A0A6.D2EDAD3F@analogic.com> Reply-To: elliegrl@lex.infi.net NNTP-Posting-Host: pm4-176.lex.infi.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Win95; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12091 Sir, Double check that bee space... FMCraig Howard Cohen wrote: > > I just started in beekeeping and hived my bees nine days ago. > > I checked them yesterday and found all was well(active queen, eggs, nice > disposition, etc.), but the bees are to a large extent ignoring the > foundation and doing their own architecture. They appear to have > started, following the form of the foundation(standard plastic, with wax > covering), but would soon curl the comb into the air and form a second > layer or would join with the foundation in the adjacent frame. > > I have cut away the offending comb( which hurt, since I was throwing > away a lot of precious wax and eggs) in order to enforce some sort of > discipline in comb building. > > What am I doing wrong? Is this a common problem? Is there a less > draconian solution? > > Thank you. Article 12092 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Kidney John" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <35493C0D.8711C8BF@access.mountain.net> <354955DB.3419@lex.infi.net> Subject: Re: Help- Dead Queen Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 09:03:43 +0100 Lines: 6 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 NNTP-Posting-Host: pm1-243.dial.nildram.co.uk Message-ID: <35497abe.0@mercury.nildram.co.uk> Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!news.corp.sgi.com!enews.sgi.com!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!peer.news.nildram.co.uk!mercury.nildram.co.uk!pm1-243.dial.nildram.co.uk Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12092 You cold unite the two colonies, then after about three weeks, split them again, forcing a 'new' queenless colony to make a new queen, by making sure they have eggs. Article 12093 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!news-peer-west.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hk1beeman@aol.com (Hk1BeeMan) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Carpenter Bees Lines: 7 Message-ID: <1998050112563300.IAA23238@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 01 May 1998 12:56:33 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <1998043023541100.TAA24739@ladder03.news.aol.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12093 >was wondering. Do Carpenter Bees have s >What is used to control them? Here in North Carolina we use a badmitten racquet ! It makes for wonderful afternoon fun and it sends the buggers for at least 20 feet in multiple directions and pieces !! Article 12094 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!howland.erols.net!torn!nott!bcarh189.bnr.ca!bcarh8ac.bnr.ca!nrtphc11.bnr.ca!news From: Adrian Kyte Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: queen cells? Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 12:54:18 +0100 Organization: Bell Northern Research Lines: 17 Message-ID: <3549B7EA.42DF@nt.com> References: <35494027.4351@kingston.net> Reply-To: adrian.kyte@nt.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.38.136.48 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12094 Kent Stienburg wrote: > I opened my hives today and I saw what appears to be queen cells in one hive, snip > They were somewhat smaller than I expected. Since I have been lucky an > haven't encountered them before I'm not sure. These were approx. 3/4" > in lenght and were located along the very top of the frame. If they're hanging down the outside of the comb they're Queen cells however small they are. -- Regards Adrian :-{)} I'm based in Devon which is in the South West corner of England. All views expressed or implied are my own not my employers. work: adrian.kyte.delete_this@nt.com home: beeman.dlete_this@enterprise.net Article 12095 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!news.alt.net!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!mail2news Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 18:22:07 +0200 Message-ID: <199805011622.SAA00424@base.xs4all.nl> From: Anonymous Comments: Please report problems with this automated remailing service to . The message sender's identity is unknown, unlogged, and not replyable. Subject: Re: Help- Dead Queen References: <35493C0D.8711C8BF@access.mountain.net> Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net Organization: mail2news@nym.alias.net Lines: 18 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12095 Make sure that you have destroyed all queen cells before trying to introduce a queen yourself. Bees will often prefer to raise their own queen and seem to regard their colony as having a queen even if she is still in the cell. If you try to introduce a queen to such a colony the introduced queen will be killed as an invader. Herschel Shamblin wrote: > >I recently split a colony because it was preparing to swarm-[several >queen cells found] when I did this I ended up with two quenelles >colonies. I believe I put the old queen with the new queen in one hive >and they killed each other ordered two more queens one colony has >accepted her but the other did not. I looked all through the colony >today and could not find the marked queen, so I looked on the ground in >front of hive entrance and there she laid DEAD.The bees are very >aggressive also, normally they are gentle.Any advice is appreciated. Article 12096 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!newsfeed.wli.net!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.concentric.net!webtv.net!not-for-mail From: garyk1@webtv.net (Gary Klein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bees wanted ... Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 17:08:04 -0600 Organization: WebTV Subscriber Lines: 39 Message-ID: <6idkkk$j1$1@newsd-111.bryant.webtv.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.webtv.net Mime-Version: 1.0 (WebTV) Content-Type: MULTIPART/MIXED; BOUNDARY=WebTV-Mail-2025280746-984 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12096 --WebTV-Mail-2025280746-984 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT Up to 1200 hives wanted to run in North Dakota. Annual honey crop is approximately 80 lbs. Normal lease agreement is 50/50. We've had a wet spring this year and the CRP is looking good. Hoping for a good year. How about you? If interested in leasing out bees contact Rob at: (701) 824-2509 (home) : (701) 824-2997 (work) Would appreciate a reply ASAP. --WebTV-Mail-2025280746-984 Content-Description: signature Content-Disposition: INLINE Content-Type: TEXT/HTML; CHARSET=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7BIT

removing moisture) sheltering it from the wind and elements. Why cant it > stay as a three body "superhive" ? I expect to be supering in two weeks, > and dont mind the height , or the weight problems. > > All points of view appreciated.. I just hate to break up a really strong > hive, already have a new startup colony this Spring, and dont have room > for a third ( very urban beekeeping here.. and wife would get real mad > since I promised that the second hive was the last).. There is NO reason not to use 3 Deep bodies as the broodnest/foodchamber arrangement YEAR round. The only "problem" with doing so is increased Spring strength and increased survival rate (assuming proper health including parasite control). So if you don't mind dealing with that "terrible" problem then have at it. > Related Question. I have three frames from last season in that hive still > full of honey. Do I leave them, or remove them and let them eat it outside > saving the comb? Okay Ira ya got me puzzled here - you have a terrifically strong 3 Deep colony and my guess is they oughta have around a full Deep of honey stores left (though not all neatly in full frames nor in a single box). So what is the concern over 3 frames full of honey?? Could easily be I missed something or just ain't following you - so please expound - or perhaps someone else is following you on this part better than I and will already have responded. Best wishes, Jack Griffes -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading Article 12098 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: jack_griffes@hotmail.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Varroa treatment from Central North Carolina Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 20:51:31 -0600 Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 29 Message-ID: <6idu73$7en$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <1998050113190800.JAA23357@ladder03.news.aol.com>#1/1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.108.56.22 X-Article-Creation-Date: Sat May 02 01:51:31 1998 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.0; Windows 95) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12098 In article <1998050113190800.JAA23357@ladder03.news.aol.com>#1/1, hk1beeman@aol.com (Hk1BeeMan) wrote: > I'd like to hear from others concerning this, it appears that an earlier > treatment (as per 1 Jan insertion - 50 days later removal) may have more effect on the mites in this area, or that since the > apistan is present just prior to spring buildup that the mites have a tough > time getting a foothold even in the beginning. > > Thanks, > H. Kevin Johnson > Lillington, North Carolina > Ya might take a look-see at my "Treatment Timing Tips" page to help solve a piece of the riddle as to why this worked well. It has to do with both bee and mite biology - along with biology of critters that are parasitized during growth. Realize that the V-mites WILL be back so let not your vigilance slacken. Best wishes in your continued fight against the V-mites, Jack Griffes http://members.tripod.com/~Griffes/ -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading Article 12099 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.com (Pollinator) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Carpenter Bees Date: 2 May 1998 02:55:57 GMT Lines: 33 Message-ID: <1998050202555700.WAA12379@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <1998050112563300.IAA23238@ladder01.news.aol.com> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12099 In article <1998050112563300.IAA23238@ladder01.news.aol.com>, hk1beeman@aol.com (Hk1BeeMan) writes: >>What is used to control them? > >Here in North Carolina we use a badmitten racquet ! >It makes for wonderful afternoon fun and it sends the buggers for at least 20 >feet in multiple directions and pieces !! Tragic! One would expect an appreciation for the great value of our pollinators in a beekeeping group. These gentle, curious, playful bees do not deserve this kind of abuse. I rejoice each year in the return of the adult carpenter bees. They live in my buildings with my blessing and appreciation. They bore a few holes, but will not bring down the buildings near as quick as a leaky roof would, not in my lifetime anyway. And the good they do is incalculable. Why kill them? Live and let live. They do no harm. Why is common sense so uncommon? Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA The Pollination Scene: http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Jan's Sweetness and Light Shop (Varietal Honeys and Beeswax Candles) http://users.aol.com/SweetnessL/sweetlit.htm Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA The Pollination Scene: http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Jan's Sweetness and Light Shop (Varietal Honeys and Beeswax Candles) http://users.aol.com/SweetnessL/sweetlit.htm Article 12100 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!205.252.116.205.MISMATCH!howland.erols.net!netnews.com!newsfeed.enteract.com!news.enteract.com!not-for-mail From: Barry Birkey Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Wicwas Press Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 23:50:21 +0000 Organization: BIRKEY.COM Lines: 31 Message-ID: <354A5FBC.199D@Birkey.com> References: <353DF3F2.C88300F3@mis.net> <3544C98F.D0C45606@facstaff.wisc.edu> Reply-To: Barry@Birkey.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.229.172.23 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01-C-MACOS8 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12100 Keith Benson wrote: > > Does anyone know if there is a webpage for Wicwas Press?? > > thanks, > > Keith > > -- > Keith Benson DVM > Special Species Health Service/Urgent Care > University of Wisconsin > School of Veterinary Medicine > bensonk@svm.vetmed.wisc.edu (office) > kgbenson@facstaff.wisc.edu (home) > http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/2011/ As far as I know, Larry is putting his own site together but don't know when it will be up. -Barry -- Barry Birkey Illinois, USA -------------------------------- BIRKEY.COM Web Design & Digital Illustration -------------------------------- 630.293.1181 ph > 630.293.3613 fx barry@birkey.com > http://www.birkey.com Article 12101 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!rochester!udel-eecis!gatech!192.26.210.166.MISMATCH!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!pjbnet.demon.co.uk!JonCole From: Jon Cole Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition,sci.agriculture,sci.agriculture.poultry,sci.agriculture.fruit,sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Agrow World Crop Protection News headlines Date: Fri, 1 May 1998 15:29:03 +0100 Organization: PJB Sender: Jon Cole Distribution: world Message-ID: <7K5suEAvwdS1Ewqx@pjbnet.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: pjbnet.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: pjbnet.demon.co.uk:158.152.115.88 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 894033132 nnrp-06:3253 NO-IDENT pjbnet.demon.co.uk:158.152.115.88 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Version 3.03a <1zUHjtIDRAuY9sonhNPb+08hrj> Lines: 11 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.med.nutrition:90079 sci.agriculture:25554 sci.agriculture.poultry:5172 sci.agriculture.fruit:1747 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12101 The updated headlines from Agrow World Crop Protection News are now available from the PJB Publications Web site. The URL to stay up-to-date with what's in the latest issue of Agrow is http://www.pjbpubs.co.uk/agrow Kind regards, -- Jonathan Cole PJB Publications (Please change 'nospam' to 'demon' to reply) Article 12102 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Kidney John" Newsgroups: alt.bbs.beeline,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,uk.misc Subject: Whoops! Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 10:25:45 +0100 Lines: 12 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 NNTP-Posting-Host: pm1-241.dial.nildram.co.uk Message-ID: <354add92.0@mercury.nildram.co.uk> Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!peer.news-uk.wisper.net!peer.news-uk.wisper.net!news.clara.net!peer.news.nildram.co.uk!mercury.nildram.co.uk!pm1-241.dial.nildram.co.uk Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu alt.bbs.beeline:254 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12102 uk.misc:100480 (Due to a cock-up on the correspondence front) To anyone who has e-mailed me, in the last couple of days, thank you for your mail, help, or comments. Especially Tom Speight (very helpful, thanks!). From here on, back to normal... '#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#' John jaf@gemini.NOSPAMnildram.co.uk Sign Charter88. See http://www.charter88.org Apian Correspondence to bees@as.above Article 12103 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!news-peer-west.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!oleane!easynet-fr!esplanade3000.net!Cegetel Entreprises NewsFeeder!infonie.fr!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bees in chimney Date: 1 May 1998 12:30:32 GMT Organization: Ye 'Ol Disorganized NNTPCache groupie Lines: 15 Message-ID: <01bd74fc$327ee700$bd6cf2c3@preinstalledcom> NNTP-Posting-Host: 10.1.5.3 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Cache-Post-Path: si1-paris!unknown@195.242.117.13 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12103 Many bees have recently started appearing in our chimney, but only on nice days, and with no apparent sign of a nest. Could they be looking for some nutrients or is there probably a nest up there somewhere? If so, how can I get rid of them / recuperate them. I have two hives of my own, which do not seem to be swarming or smelling of chimneys, so I can only assume they come from one of the many wild colonies around here. Many thanks for any help Tim ps Does anyone have information on french beekeepers associations, online or off, especially in the Centre / Berry regions? Article 12104 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: artmarin@ctcreuna.cl Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: vinager Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 06:05:01 -0600 Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 5 Message-ID: <6ieukt$ick$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.186.25.111 X-Article-Creation-Date: Sat May 02 11:05:01 1998 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.02; AK; Windows 95) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12104 I want to make honey vinager.If someone know how to do it, please tell me. artmarin@ctcreuna.cl Los Andes, Chile. -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading Article 12105 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: beecrofter@aol.com (BeeCrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Carpenter Bees Lines: 4 Message-ID: <1998050213280300.JAA18121@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 02 May 1998 13:28:03 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <1998050202555700.WAA12379@ladder01.news.aol.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12105 Perhaps if you find nature and carpenter bees to be so offensive you should stay inside your condo annd lock the doors I enjoy playing tag with the carpenter bees in my garden and look forward to their return and the return of dandylions every spring Article 12106 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!205.139.56.103!news.pe.net!ns From: amschelp@pe.net (Peter Amschel) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bees in chimney Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 16:21:25 GMT Organization: PE.net - Internet access from the Press-Enterprise Company Lines: 8 Message-ID: <6ifh2p$jr4$1@magnolia.pe.net> References: <01bd74fc$327ee700$bd6cf2c3@preinstalledcom> NNTP-Posting-Host: hem03ppp04.pe.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12106 In article < I can only assume they come from one of the many wild colonies >around here. >ps Does anyone have information on french beekeepers associations, online >or off, especially in the Centre / Berry regions? > Essayez la bas: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/cl.ivert/preacu.htm Article 12107 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!192.26.210.166.MISMATCH!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!nntp.giganews.com!uunet!in2.uu.net!BILBO!not-for-mail From: Howard Cohen Subject: Re: bees won't behave Message-ID: <3549C12A.210626FB@analogic.com> Date: Fri, 01 May 1998 08:33:46 -0400 References: <3544A0A6.D2EDAD3F@analogic.com> <3549562A.53D4@lex.infi.net> Reply-To: n1vxs@juno.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 36 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12107 I did. The problem, I think is that there is no comb on the opposite foundation, and that makes too much bee space. FMCraig wrote: > Sir, > Double check that bee space... > FMCraig > > Howard Cohen wrote: > > > > I just started in beekeeping and hived my bees nine days ago. > > > > I checked them yesterday and found all was well(active queen, eggs, > nice > > disposition, etc.), but the bees are to a large extent ignoring the > > foundation and doing their own architecture. They appear to have > > started, following the form of the foundation(standard plastic, with > wax > > covering), but would soon curl the comb into the air and form a > second > > layer or would join with the foundation in the adjacent frame. > > > > I have cut away the offending comb( which hurt, since I was throwing > > > away a lot of precious wax and eggs) in order to enforce some sort > of > > discipline in comb building. > > > > What am I doing wrong? Is this a common problem? Is there a less > > draconian solution? > > > > Thank you. Article 12108 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!144.212.95.13.MISMATCH!nntprelay.mathworks.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hk1beeman@aol.com (Hk1BeeMan) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Varroa treatment from Central North Carolina Lines: 32 Message-ID: <1998050113190800.JAA23357@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 01 May 1998 13:19:08 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12108 Greetings All, Just a short report on a treatment method i used this year. There was a recent note in one of the bee mags about a fellow that tried apistan on jan first for 50 days, he reported no varroa at all throughout that spring. I decided to try this myself with my 6 base hives i did not however with my 5 polination hives aprox 1 mile distant. On Jan 1 of 98 i placed two strips in each base hive, 50 days later removing them. On that date all hives were well into a beginning buildup for spring as we have had a relatively warm winter. The results were quite interesting, of my 5 base hives i could find no varroa at all, ruined some beautiful brood looking for it too ! In my pollination hives the varroa mites were everywhere ( as i expected them to be with all that brood ) and i inserted the apistan strips in them at that time ( this being the time i would have normally done my spring treatment anyway ). My 5 base hives continue to be free of varroa and the spring buildup in these 5 has been awesome while the later treatment of the other hives has yielded a slower buildup with a significant varroa presence. I'd like to hear from others concerning this, it appears that an earlier treatment may have more effect on the mites in this area, or that since the apistan is present just prior to spring buildup that the mites have a tough time getting a foothold even in the beginning. Thanks, H. Kevin Johnson Lillington, North Carolina Article 12109 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!144.212.95.13.MISMATCH!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!128.230.129.106!news.maxwell.syr.edu!oleane!jussieu.fr!cea.fr!not-for-mail From: "Pascal Lallement" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Search Buckfast producteur in Germanie Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 20:46:34 +0200 Organization: Gard France Lines: 12 Message-ID: <6ifphd$ekr$2@news.cea.fr> NNTP-Posting-Host: boss.valrho.cea.fr X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12109 Hello, I search a Buckfast Producteur of keens in Germanie. Thanks. Excuses my poor english. Pascal l'apiculture en francais : fr.rec.apiculture (news) Article 12110 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.nacamar.de!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!demon!tomsp8.demon.co.uk!Tom From: Tom Speight Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Furness Spring Convention Date: Sat, 2 May 1998 23:33:17 +0100 Distribution: world Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: tomsp8.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: tomsp8.demon.co.uk:194.222.124.95 X-Trace: news.demon.co.uk 894148733 nnrp-05:9832 NO-IDENT tomsp8.demon.co.uk:194.222.124.95 X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Newsreader: Turnpike Trial Version 3.03a <21uDM5N6bilcqpHafM04oxRbos> Lines: 18 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12110 Furness Beekeepers will hold their Spring Convention in the Malt Kiln, Bardsea, Near Ulverston, Cumbria on Saturday, May 9th 1998. Open 9.30 am Lectures start 10.00am prompt. Finish about 4.30 pm Speakers Ron Brown of Torquay, and Medwin Bew, of the National Beekeeping Unit, York. also beginners course with John Skinner. (Hands-on demonstration, weather permitting) Admission five pounds and one pound for juniors. including tea, coffee and home made goodies. Pub lunches arranged if required. please e-mail me for further information if required -- Tom Speight tom@tomsp8.demon.co.uk Article 12111 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: jack_griffes@hotmail.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bees in chimney Date: Sat, 02 May 1998 22:03:23 -0600 Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 22 Message-ID: <6igmpr$53a$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <01bd74fc$327ee700$bd6cf2c3@preinstalledcom>#1/1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.108.56.23 X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun May 03 03:03:23 1998 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.0; Windows 95) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12111 In article <01bd74fc$327ee700$bd6cf2c3@preinstalledcom>#1/1, wrote: > > Many bees have recently started appearing in our chimney, > but only on nice days, and with no apparent sign of a nest. > Could they be looking for some nutrients or is there probably a nest up > there somewhere? Around here (back when we had feral colonies that actually lived for years) finding entrances to such nests right near a chimney was not uncommon. Could it be that the bees you have noticed are looking for a nest site - as per about to swarm. We have eggs in swarm cups appearing in colonies here already - don't know how far along things are where you are in France. Jack Griffes Onsted, MI USA -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading Article 12112 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Owners" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Software Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 00:11:52 -0400 Lines: 8 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: p34.a1.56k.ic.net Message-ID: <354bfb57.0@news.ic.net> Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!news.ic.net!p34.a1.56k.ic.net Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12112 Does anyone know of record keeping software for apiaries, beekeeping, etc? Any contacts would be appreciated. Thanks! Mark Article 12113 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!arclight.uoregon.edu!hammer.uoregon.edu!xfer.kren.ne.kr!xfer.kren.nm.kr!nntp.kreonet.re.kr!news.netins.net!not-for-mail From: "Rev Jim" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re:Carpenter bees Date: 3 May 1998 05:51:11 GMT Organization: news.netins.net Lines: 5 Message-ID: <01bd7659$a2fe8cc0$240cb1cf@jim.smallwww.mebbs.com.www.mebbs.com> References: <35493C0D.8711C8BF@access.mountain.net> <199805011622.SAA00424@base.xs4all.nl> Reply-To: "Rev Jim" NNTP-Posting-Host: ur36.mebbs.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12113 Please someone take a minute and explain carpenter bees. There seems to be a faction that loves to destroy these and some who welcome them. I do not know anything about them and hate to kill unless there is a reason. thank you Article 12114 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!eecs-usenet-02.mit.edu!news.sgi.com!howland.erols.net!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!news.inet.tele.dk!not-for-mail From: "Jorn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Software Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 08:32:19 +0200 Organization: Apimo Biavl Lines: 17 Message-ID: <6ih39e$1rgc$1@news-inn.inet.tele.dk> References: <354bfb57.0@news.ic.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp5.rd.tele.dk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-Mimeole: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12114 Owners skrev i meddelelsen <354bfb57.0@news.ic.net>... >Does anyone know of record keeping software for apiaries, beekeeping, etc? >Any contacts would be appreciated. Try this : regards Jorn Johanesson Beekeeper since 1970 EDBi = Beekeeping software since 1986 homepages http://wn.com.au/apimo http://home4.inet.tele.dk/apimo e-mail apimo@post4.tele.dk Article 12115 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "jack mundale" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <1998050112563300.IAA23238@ladder01.news.aol.com> <1998050202555700.WAA12379@ladder01.news.aol.com> Subject: Re: Carpenter Bees Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 08:39:34 -0400 Lines: 19 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.161.71.128 Message-ID: <354c6731.0@news8.kcdata.com> X-Trace: 3 May 1998 12:46:41 -0600, 209.161.71.128 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!dca1-hub1.news.digex.net!newsreader.digex.net!news1.digex.net!digex!news9.digex.net!digex!newsfeed.kcdata.com!news8.kcdata.com!209.161.71.128 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12115 <1998050112563300.IAA23238@ladder01.news.aol.com>, hk1beeman@aol.com >(Hk1BeeMan) writes: >They live in >my buildings with my blessing and appreciation. They >bore a few holes, but will >not bring down the buildings near as quick as a leaky >roof would, not in my >lifetime anyway. > Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, >SC USA I live on a farm in south central Pennsylvania. I have seen carpenter bees destroy a building in one season. If they infest the main supporting beams of a structure they can render it unusable faster than termites. p.s. If I have a leaky roof, I fix it. Article 12116 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: Larry WIlliard Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Starting a HIVE - Please Assist Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 13:37:28 -0500 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 24 Message-ID: <354CB968.6C38C19F@bigfoot.com> References: <354C6409.4CD6@inkweb.com> Reply-To: circuit@bigfoot.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.24.176.56 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 894220141 EDOBMGQ.FB038D018C usenet85.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) To: chaz@inkweb.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12116 Start with these link, near the bottom of the first page there is a link for most of the suppliers of equipment and supplies. These are some other links that will be of much help. I have used them all to educate myself and buy equipment. Larry http://www.birkey.com/BLB/Beekeeping/index.html http://www.cyberTours.com/~midnitebee/ http://beenet.com/index1.htm http://beenet.com/index1.htm Chaz wrote: > Are there any online stores for beekeeping supplies, and if not, who do > you recommend in the US for this? I am in SC. > > chaz Article 12117 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!nntp.abs.net!newsxfer.visi.net!firenze.visi.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <354C6409.4CD6@inkweb.com> From: Chaz Reply-To: chaz@inkweb.com Organization: chaz X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Starting a HIVE - Please Assist Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lines: 4 Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 12:34:46 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: pm3-2-38.aiken.sc.scescape.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 08:34:46 EST Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12117 Are there any online stores for beekeeping supplies, and if not, who do you recommend in the US for this? I am in SC. chaz Article 12118 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Zadigvolta" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Starting a HIVE - Please Assist Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 11:30:25 -0500 Organization: Prodigy Services Corp Lines: 11 Message-ID: <6ii2ir$6q6i$1@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com> References: <354C6409.4CD6@inkweb.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.156.37.199 X-Post-Time: 3 May 1998 15:30:35 GMT X-Auth-User: 001408643/41f82f2070441f1a X-Problems-To: abuse@prodigy.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!rochester!biko.cc.rochester.edu!newshub.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed1.earthlink.net!prodigy.com!prodigy.com!not-for-mail Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12118 Chaz call your nearest police station and they will tell you the names and tel. #'s of your nearest beekeepers. They, in turn will help you with all the information you need. Good luck. Zadigvolta@prodigy.net Chaz wrote in message <354C6409.4CD6@inkweb.com>... >Are there any online stores for beekeeping supplies, and if not, who do >you recommend in the US for this? I am in SC. > >chaz Article 12119 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!demos!news-peer.gip.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!baron.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!SnUK10!supernews.xara.net!xara.net!news.itg.net.uk!usenet From: "Gregory" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: West of London, England ? Date: Sun, 3 May 1998 15:20:42 +0100 Lines: 5 Message-ID: <6ihvch$n6j$1@heliodor.xara.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 194.126.87.51 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12119 I've never actually been involved with beekeeping, but ever since I was a kid, I've been interested in anything to do with it. Is there anyone in the west of London, England (where I live) who can suggest any contacts ? Article 12120 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!4.1.16.34!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: beekeeping.guide@miningco.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Software Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 17:26:30 -0600 Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 22 Message-ID: <6iiqul$pmn$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <354bfb57.0@news.ic.net>#1/1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.240.45.102 X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun May 03 22:26:30 1998 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.0; Windows 95) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12120 In article <354bfb57.0@news.ic.net>#1/1, "Owners" wrote: > > Does anyone know of record keeping software for apiaries, beekeeping, etc? > Any contacts would be appreciated. > > Thanks! > > Mark > > Hi Mark, You can find a list of available beekeeping software at The Mining Co. Beekeeping site. Hope this helps. http://beekeeping.miningco.com/msub14.htm Sherry Medders beekeeping.guide@miningco.com http://beekeeping.miningco.com http://miningco.com -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading Article 12121 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!205.252.116.205.MISMATCH!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: beekeeping.guide@miningco.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Starting a HIVE - Please Assist Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 17:31:16 -0600 Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 19 Message-ID: <6iir7k$q7e$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <354C6409.4CD6@inkweb.com>#1/1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.240.45.102 X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun May 03 22:31:16 1998 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.0; Windows 95) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12121 In article <354C6409.4CD6@inkweb.com>#1/1, chaz@inkweb.com wrote: > > Are there any online stores for beekeeping supplies, and if not, who do > you recommend in the US for this? I am in SC. > > chaz > Hi Chaz, I have a convenient list of Beekeeping Suppliers on my site at http://beekeeping.miningco.com/msub2.htm I hope this helps. Sherry Medders beekeeping.miningco.com http://beekeeping.miningco.com http://miningco.com -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading Article 12122 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!news.eng.convex.com!news.ecn.ou.edu!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!feed2.news.erols.com!erols!newsfeed.wli.net!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: jack_griffes@hotmail.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Carpenter Bees Date: Sun, 03 May 1998 18:45:47 -0600 Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 41 Message-ID: <6iivjb$vbp$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <1998050112563300.IAA23238@ladder01.news.aol.com> <1998050202555700.WAA12379@ladder01.news.aol.com> <354c6731.0@news8.kcdata.com>#1/1 NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.108.56.18 X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun May 03 23:45:47 1998 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.0; Windows 95) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12122 In article <354c6731.0@news8.kcdata.com>#1/1, "jack mundale" wrote: > > > <1998050112563300.IAA23238@ladder01.news.aol.com>, hk1beeman@aol.com > >(Hk1BeeMan) writes: > >They live in > >my buildings with my blessing and appreciation. They >bore a few holes, but > will > >not bring down the buildings near as quick as a leaky >roof would, not in > my > >lifetime anyway. > > Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, >SC USA > > I live on a farm in south central Pennsylvania. I have seen carpenter bees > destroy a building in one season. If they infest the main supporting beams > of a structure they can render it unusable faster than termites. > > p.s. If I have a leaky roof, I fix it. > Serious???? The population density of Carpenter Bees must be VERY high in your area. Normally as Dave noted it would take a WAY lot of years for the short near perfect 3/8" holes of the carpenter bees to bring down a building. And around here even the leaky roof takes a few years to bring down an old post and beam barn. The leaky roof is FAR more of a threat to buildings hereabouts (we are talking the abandoned barns) than are the carpenter bees. To insure we are on the same page - Carpenter Bees hereabouts look similar to Bumble Bees except for a "bald" black top of abdomen (bumbles have visible hair there) - they are about the same size as the bumbles as well. Take good care, Jack Griffes Country Jack's Honeybee Farm http://members.tripod.com/~Griffes/ -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading Article 12123 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!atl-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!okra.negia.net!not-for-mail From: "petty" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Software Date: 4 May 1998 00:41:22 GMT Organization: NorthEast Georgia Internet Access Inc. Lines: 23 Message-ID: <01bd76f5$b8e01440$b3003dce@pettyben> References: <354bfb57.0@news.ic.net>#1/1 <6iiqul$pmn$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: temppp19.negia.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12123 check out your tax dollars at work!.......... http://gears.tucson.ars.ag.gov it's the Carl Hayden Bee Research Lab, and they have all kinds of fun stuff including a free software package designed to help with the business of beekeeping. have not personally perused the software, but would like to hear from someone who has! beekeeping.guide@miningco.com wrote in article <6iiqul$pmn$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>... > In article <354bfb57.0@news.ic.net>#1/1, > "Owners" wrote: > > > > Does anyone know of record keeping software for apiaries, beekeeping, etc? > > Any contacts would be appreciated. > > > > Thanks! > > > > Mark Article 12124 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!feed2.news.erols.com!erols!not-for-mail From: "John D'Amico" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Ulee's gold Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 00:17:08 -0400 Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 7 Message-ID: <6ijfhg$ksn$1@winter.news.erols.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207-172-170-135.s8.as1.hmt.erols.com X-Trace: winter.news.erols.com 894255472 21399 207.172.170.135 (4 May 1998 04:17:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@erols.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12124 I have been a beekeeper on a small scale for a few years now, mostly to pollinate our melons and vegetables, and of course for the honey and the pure enjoyment of the bees. Tonight we rented the video "Ulee's gold" and I recommend it to anyone who keeps bees. Even though the bees were not in every scene, there was enough about them to make any beekeeper smile--John Article 12125 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!205.252.116.205.MISMATCH!howland.erols.net!feed2.news.erols.com!erols!not-for-mail From: "John D'Amico" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Varroa treatment from Central North Carolina Date: Mon, 4 May 1998 00:27:58 -0400 Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 13 Message-ID: <6ijg5q$ot1$1@winter.news.erols.com> References: <1998050113190800.JAA23357@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 207-172-170-135.s8.as1.hmt.erols.com X-Trace: winter.news.erols.com 894256122 25505 207.172.170.135 (4 May 1998 04:28:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@erols.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12125 Hk1BeeMan wrote in message <1998050113190800.JAA23357@ladder03.news.aol.com>... >Greetings All, > >Just a short report on a treatment method i used this year. > I've installed Apistan in late summer, left in on till early spring in hives with double brood chambers with excellent results. This has worked well for me now for several years--John Article 12126 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.dn.net!not-for-mail From: Rayne Horton Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Starting a HIVE - Please Assist Date: 4 May 1998 04:50:04 GMT Organization: ScienceDaily News Posting Service Lines: 8 Message-ID: <6ijhds$8st$1@news.dn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: www.sciencedaily.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: AspNNTP (ScienceDaily Magazine) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12126 In article <354C6409.4CD6@inkweb.com>, Chaz  writes: > Are there any online stores for beekeeping supplies, and if not, who do > you recommend in the US for this? I am in SC. > > chaz Chaz I have the same question could you let me know if you have found anything, Naturebug@aol.com Article 12127 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!205.216.193.98!golden.adams.net!not-for-mail From: "For Sale" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Southern Illinois - 190+ Acre Farm Date: 4 May 1998 16:09:26 GMT Organization: Adams NetWorks Lines: 7 Message-ID: <01bd7776$ba688460$86ded8cd@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp04-chester.egyptian.net X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12127 Southern Illinois - 190+ acre farm with 26 acres apples, 20 acres peaches, 2 acres nectarines, 4 acres strawberries, plus hay, row crop and pasture acreage. Includes farm market (annual sales of $250,000+), equipment, two houses, mobile home and support buildings. Approximately 60 miles south of St. Louis. colvis@ns.egyptian.net Article 12128 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <354DE6B9.1284@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 11:03:05 -0500 From: Summer Jones Reply-To: jedi_master@geocities.com Organization: St. Paul's Episcopal School X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: A few questions References: <354DE650.3CCC@geocities.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.12.153.125 X-Trace: 4 May 1998 12:18:05 +0500, 209.12.153.125 Lines: 2 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!logbridge.uoregon.edu!scanner.worldgate.com!tor-nx1.netcom.ca!209.136.2.9!209.12.153.125 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12128 my e-mail address is mindhunter@hotmail.com that was the previous user's profile. Article 12129 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: beetools@aol.com (Beetools) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Starting a HIVE - Please Assist Lines: 5 Message-ID: <1998050416220400.MAA17034@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 04 May 1998 16:22:03 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <6iir7k$q7e$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12129 Hi Chaz Try http://members.aol.com/beetools Ron Bennett, Luckiamute Bee Article 12130 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!141.211.144.13.MISMATCH!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsfeed.direct.ca!news.he.net!news.pagesat.net!news.itis.com!news.doit.wisc.edu!not-for-mail From: Keith Benson Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Jentner Method Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 10:51:09 -0500 Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison Lines: 19 Sender: reguser@144.92.72.13 Message-ID: <354DE3EC.EC2AC743@facstaff.wisc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: 144.92.72.13 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12130 Hi, I had at one time heard that there was a book describing the Jentner method of queen rearing but have since lots the title. Would anyone know the title and author, and if anyone has it - what did you think of it?? Keith -- Keith Benson DVM Special Species Health Service/Urgent Care University of Wisconsin School of Veterinary Medicine bensonk@svm.vetmed.wisc.edu (office) kgbenson@facstaff.wisc.edu (home) http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/2011/ Article 12131 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <354DE650.3CCC@geocities.com> Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 11:01:20 -0500 From: Summer Jones Reply-To: jedi_master@geocities.com Organization: St. Paul's Episcopal School X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: A few questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.12.153.125 X-Trace: 4 May 1998 12:16:20 +0500, 209.12.153.125 Lines: 8 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!syix.com!tor-nx1.netcom.ca!209.136.2.9!209.12.153.125 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12131 I am a student doing research on bees for my biology class. I have a few questions: If drones develop from unfertilized eggs, how are they male and diploid? Do female workers produce eggs are are they unable to reproduce at all? Thank you so much for any help you can give me! Rhys Article 12232 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!205.252.116.205.MISMATCH!howland.erols.net!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: artmarin@ctcreuna.cl Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: chinese apis Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 11:51:46 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 6 Message-ID: <6j44ci$a55$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 199.186.25.111 X-Article-Creation-Date: Sun May 10 11:51:46 1998 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/2.0 (compatible; MSIE 3.02; AK; Windows 95) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12232 I want to contact a popular china beekeeper.Please answer to Arturo Marin,Los Andes,Chile. artmarin@ctcreuna.cl -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading Article 12233 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!131.96.1.11.MISMATCH!tattler!not-for-mail Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: James D Satterfield To: Jarrod Loerzel Subject: Re: Bee Resources or FAQ Needed In-Reply-To: <01bd7b41$3e8d9a00$99ed1cce@herbwagn> Message-ID: References: <01bd7b41$3e8d9a00$99ed1cce@herbwagn> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Lines: 11 Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 14:55:59 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.96.1.18 NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 10:55:59 EST Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12233 On 9 May 1998, Jarrod Loerzel wrote: > Hello All- > I'm extremely new to the bee-keeping arena, and would like to know if there are any good sources on starting with bee keeping? How do you get the "starter" bees? What equipment is needed? Is there a FAQ for this newsgroup? > Any help at all is deeply appreciated! http://www.gsu.edu/~biojdsx/main.htm Article 12234 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.idt.net!netnews.com!ix.netcom.com!news From: Jack Kassinger Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Rendering beeswax Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 10:21:42 -0400 Organization: Micron Electronics, Inc. Lines: 4 Message-ID: <3555B7F6.D2AE33A3@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: jack18@ix.netcom.com NNTP-Posting-Host: bin-ny3-54.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Sun May 10 7:25:22 AM PDT 1998 X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12234 Does any one have directions for rendering small amounts of bees wax? Also any plans for extracting honey a frame at a time? Jack Article 12235 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed2.news.erols.com!erols!news.mindspring.net!news.mindspring.com!not-for-mail From: DöñJúäñ@Jùlïò.çóm Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Queen Bee in trouble? Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 20:26:51 GMT Organization: MindSpring Enterprises Lines: 16 Message-ID: <35570d2a.26660165@news.mindspring.com> References: <35507C48.5744@hotmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: pool-207-205-162-242.nwrk.grid.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Server-Date: 10 May 1998 20:25:08 GMT X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12235 On Wed, 06 May 1998 15:10:54 GMT, selma martina wrote this: >The nipples on my new queen seem hardened. Can these be treated with an >ointment of some kind? Sounds like a silicon problem to me... (That's if the strip bars were any indication.. ) You strip bars, right? Where the drones get to visit queens... Good luck! -DJ (She said) "I treat my body like a temple, You treat yours like a tent!" -Jimmy Buffett, "Fruitcakes" Article 12236 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: beecrofter@aol.com (BeeCrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Rendering beeswax Lines: 5 Message-ID: <1998051100314500.UAA11858@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 11 May 1998 00:31:45 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <3555B7F6.D2AE33A3@ix.netcom.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12236 Small quantities like burr comb and such get rendered in the microwave oven by filling a bowl half full of water and stretching panty hose over the top. The bits of comb and such get put on top and when they melt they strain throught the panty hose and fall into the water. The stuff left over gets used to start the wood stove. Article 12237 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!205.139.56.103!news.pe.net!ns From: amschelp@pe.net (Peter Amschel) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Rendering beeswax Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 01:27:06 GMT Organization: PE.net - Internet access from the Press-Enterprise Company Lines: 10 Message-ID: <6j5k1a$230$1@magnolia.pe.net> References: <3555B7F6.D2AE33A3@ix.netcom.com> <1998051100314500.UAA11858@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hem02ppp18.pe.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12237 Cool idea! Thanks BeeCrofter! In article <1998051100314500.UAA11858@ladder03.news.aol.com>, beecrofter@aol.com (BeeCrofter) wrote: >Small quantities like burr comb and such get rendered in the microwave oven by >filling a bowl half full of water and stretching panty hose over the top. The >bits of comb and such get put on top and when they melt they strain throught >the panty hose and fall into the water. >The stuff left over gets used to start the wood stove. Article 12238 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Richard Hackworth" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Making a new hive from an existing one Date: Sun, 10 May 1998 22:45:03 -0400 Lines: 15 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.1.217.154 Message-ID: <35566691.0@199.103.243.32> Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news.hardlink.com!199.103.243.32!207.1.217.154 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12238 Greetings, Could anyone tell me the process of taking 3-4 frames of bees (workers only) and locking them up inside a new hive to start a new hive. Will they make a queen? How long should they be shut up in the hive? Any info would bee appreciated Article 12239 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!Gamma.RU!srcc!fci-se!fci!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!logbridge.uoregon.edu!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 From: okie@rotgut.com (Jethro) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Rendering beeswax Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 05:44:27 GMT Organization: Secret Lines: 18 Message-ID: <35598d67.200428246@enews.newsguy.com> References: <3555B7F6.D2AE33A3@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: Don't Bother NNTP-Posting-Host: p-290.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 X-No-Archive: yes Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12239 On or About Sun, 10 May 1998 10:21:42 -0400, Jack Kassinger pushed the send button on the following : »Does any one have directions for rendering small amounts of bees wax? »Also any plans for extracting honey a frame at a time? » Jack Heat the wax (a microwave oven will work) and strain it through a wire mesh. Next pour it through a disposable paint strainer. You can get the paint strainers at a hardware store for cheap. If you need it REALY clean, after the paint strainer, pour it through a coffee filter. The coffee filter will get it real clean but will waste some wax and is real SLOW. If you do this in the kitchen, be sure your wife is not home when you do this. Jethro Article 12240 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <3556EC6D.83695047@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 08:17:49 -0400 From: Allen Welk Organization: Atlanta, GA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Queen Excluder Screen Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.100.7.201 X-Trace: 11 May 1998 13:17:58 GMT, 32.100.7.201 Lines: 5 X-Notice: Items posted that violate the IBM.NET Acceptable Use Policy X-Notice: or otherwise violate the IBM.NET Terms of Service X-Notice: should be forwarded in their entirety to postmaster@ibm.net Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!165.87.194.242!newsm2.ibm.net!ibm.net!news2.ibm.net!32.100.7.201 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12240 Does anyone know of a source for the screen or mesh for a queen excluder. I would be interested in buying the material in sheets and cut and frame my own. Al Welk, Atlanta, GA Article 12241 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <3556EF1B.E407E619@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 08:29:15 -0400 From: Allen Welk Organization: Atlanta, GA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Swarm References: <6j378r$dn3@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.100.7.201 X-Trace: 11 May 1998 13:29:24 GMT, 32.100.7.201 Lines: 29 X-Notice: Items posted that violate the IBM.NET Acceptable Use Policy X-Notice: or otherwise violate the IBM.NET Terms of Service X-Notice: should be forwarded in their entirety to postmaster@ibm.net Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntp-out.monmouth.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!news-peer.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!newsm.ibm.net!ibm.net!news2.ibm.net!32.100.7.201 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12241 John, my initial thought is that you did not get the queen with the swarm. They won't stay around if you don't. The second thought is where did the swam come from? It helps if you can move the swarm away from the foraging area. this is not as critical with swarms since they want to relocate anyway. I have never used the newspaper technique to join hives. We just catch the swam in a empty hive and work with that. Right now we are getting 3-5 swarms a day. Yousaid that the swarm left by the next morning? How did they get out. My thoughts would be to have put the swarm on the top of the newspaper. You only want a few small cuts in the paper so that they bees can start shredding at it but not enough for them to move into the lower box for a few days. They need enough time to spread the queens pharamones thoughout the box. With an swarm that I put into an obsevation hive, it took about 4 days for the bees to get totally settled down and the queen to start laying again. Al welk, Atlanta, GA smokey wrote: > > I tried to take my first swarm of the season and merge them with a weak > hive. I used the "newspaper" method to introduce the bees but the next > morning, all the swarm was gone. Any tips on how to go about this with > more success? > > John (3rd year keeper) Article 12242 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: beecrofter@aol.com (BeeCrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Apistan wars Lines: 7 Message-ID: <1998051113382100.JAA05795@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 11 May 1998 13:38:21 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <3556EC6D.83695047@ibm.net> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12242 It would be nice if it was safe to leave apistan in over the winter and I am sure most would do it that way- But so far following the instructions has worked for me. If your mileage varies then you do what you have to. As for me as long as it works following the directions thats the way I am going. I would hate to be the guy who made this tool useless. Article 12243 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!205.252.116.205.MISMATCH!howland.erols.net!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hk1beeman@aol.com (Hk1BeeMan) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Varroa Post causing war in Central North Carolina Lines: 19 Message-ID: <1998051112562700.IAA03371@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 11 May 1998 12:56:27 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <1998051003292100.XAA08282@ladder03.news.aol.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12243 >Well, by reading this thread. I believe I'll never buy honey again Ya know i never figured that by posting i'd start a war ! first off let me say that what i did was perfectly sound, i used the apistan strips as per instructed, the only thing i did was move the time up a little earlier ( starting time that is ). The treatment seemed to work better in this area by timing it that way. It may not and of course will not work in your area if temps are still freezing on Jan first , where you are. Btw, our honey flow goes very well right now and i hope to extract @ 350 lbs in the coming week from 4 hives, sadly my 5th honey hive lost her queen, and none are to be found locally, have added a frame of fresh eggs/brood in the hopes that they'll raise a good one. ya'll come see us hk johnson Big Johnson Beekeeping, Lillington NC Article 12244 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!192.48.153.1.MISMATCH!enews.sgi.com!pln-w!spln!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1 From: okie@rotgut.com (Jethro) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Ulee's gold Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 14:39:41 GMT Organization: Secret Lines: 14 Message-ID: <35570beb.232817198@enews.newsguy.com> References: <6ijfhg$ksn$1@winter.news.erols.com> Reply-To: Don't Bother NNTP-Posting-Host: p-605.newsdawg.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.5/32.452 X-No-Archive: yes Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12244 On or About Mon, 4 May 1998 00:17:08 -0400, John D'Amico pushed the send button on the following : Watched it on PPV this week and thought Peter Fonda did a fine job with the bees. Very few actors would work bees without gloves and a short sleeved shirt! »I have been a beekeeper on a small scale for a few years now, mostly to »pollinate our melons and vegetables, and of course for the honey and the »pure enjoyment of the bees. Tonight we rented the video "Ulee's gold" and I »recommend it to anyone who keeps bees. Even though the bees were not in »every scene, there was enough about them to make any beekeeper smile--John » Article 12245 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <3556EC0B.82A217A1@ibm.net> Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 08:16:11 -0400 From: Allen Welk Organization: Atlanta, GA X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.04 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Need help ! References: <6j1oq5$53h$1@pticom.dipt.donetsk.ua> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: 32.100.7.201 X-Trace: 11 May 1998 13:16:20 GMT, 32.100.7.201 Lines: 11 X-Notice: Items posted that violate the IBM.NET Acceptable Use Policy X-Notice: or otherwise violate the IBM.NET Terms of Service X-Notice: should be forwarded in their entirety to postmaster@ibm.net Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!nntp-xfer.ncsu.edu!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsm.ibm.net!ibm.net!news2.ibm.net!32.100.7.201 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12245 I'll second that! I'd also be interested in that information A reply to my email would be apreaciated. AJWELK@IBM.NET Praktika wrote: > > Dear Sirs please help us find any firm or that sales > equipment to produce "Honey sticks " (candy). > Thanks in avance. > E-mail: roman@praktika.donetsk.ua Roman Shparber. Article 12246 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: steven.turner@amigabee.org.uk (Steven Turner) Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!bofh.vszbr.cz!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!news-lond.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!join.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.pcug.co.uk!amigabee!steven.turner Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: RE: Making a new hive from an existing one Message-ID: <894898771@amigabee.org.uk> Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 14:59:31 GMT Distribution: world Organization: Amigabee computer networking for beekeepers Lines: 36 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12246 On May 10, 1998 11:41pm, RDHACK@MAIL.ITISEASY.COM wrote to ALL: Hello, R> Could anyone tell me the process of taking 3-4 frames of bees (workers R> only) and locking them up inside a new hive to start a new hive. The ideal time would be when you find Queen cells in your main stock remove 3-5 frames with the Queen Bee and put in your nucleus hive. R> How long should they be shut up in the hive? Close up the nucleus and leave in the shade for a few days with a feeder on. Or if move the nucleus to another apiary let them fly. The main stock should be left with one Queen cell. The nucleus will grow in size quickly perhaps replacing the old queen later in the season. R> Will they make a queen? If you didn't mind a brood less period let both nucleus and main stock have a Queen cell each. The Old Queen could be kept safe in case of failer of the mating of either new queens. If you remove a Q-bee from hive, the bee's will make emergency Queen cells from newly laid eggs, 14 days later you will see sealed Queen cells. Regards STEVEN TURNER G6LPF Beekeeper/gardener Sysop of Amigabee. http://www.beeman.dircon.co.uk/ Email: beeman@dircon.co.uk ... Platinum Xpress & Wildcat!..... Nice!!!! Article 12247 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!Supernews73!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: Larry WIlliard Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Needed 2 Apistan Strips Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 13:19:46 -0500 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 5 Message-ID: <35574141.5002C678@fcbl.net> Reply-To: circuit@bigfoot.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.24.176.47 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: 894914117 EDOBMGQ.FB02FD018C usenet58.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.05 [en] (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12247 Would anybody care to sell me 2 apistan strips? I only have 1 hive and cant see the sense buying 10. Thanks Larry Article 12248 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!141.211.144.13.MISMATCH!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: beetools@aol.com (Beetools) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Drinking bees Lines: 12 Message-ID: <1998051120160100.QAA02311@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 11 May 1998 20:16:01 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <35536E39.EB022262@ne.mediaone.net> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12248 Bees are very "loyal" to a water source and it is difficult to get them to change. Several have pointed out that bees prefer minerial in their water, which is quit true. One of the downsides of the efforts to clear up point source environmetal run off in the dairy industry is that dairy lagoons are much much "cleaner" that one would expect. I know several beekeepers who have hives near daries that report that their honey crop has a "barnyard" taste (the most polite way I can express the flavor). Seems that the bees are using the dairy lagoons and a water source. Ron Bennett, Luckiamute Bee Article 12249 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Midnite" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <6ijg5q$ot1$1@winter.news.erols.com> <1998050502133200.WAA22150@ladder01.news.aol.com> Subject: Re: Varroa treatment from Central North Carolina Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:47:59 -0400 Lines: 29 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.232.50.172 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.232.50.172 Message-ID: <35577ffa.0@newsfeed1.cybertours.com> Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!208.136.69.33!newsfeed1.cybertours.com!208.232.50.172 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12249 Greetings! This is not a new "procedure"..I now of beekeepers who apply the same "techniques". Theory: since brood are "hatching" during the fall..their reasoning is that these "new" bees will be protected during the winter months. Herb -- Holly-B Apiary P.O. Box 26 Wells,Maine 04090-0026 http://www.cybertours.com/~midnitebee BeeCrofter wrote in message <1998050502133200.WAA22150@ladder01.news.aol.com>... >>BR> >>I've installed Apistan in late summer, left in on till early spring in >>hives
>>with double brood chambers with excellent results. This has worked well
>>for me now for several years--John
>> >What is a matter with following the damned directions? >Are you trying to breed resistant mites. >Are you trying to get bee drugs removed from our access. > >2 brood cycles-42 days then out of the hive. Article 12250 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Midnite" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <355052FA.B8681AFB@mis.net> Subject: Re: visable brood Date: Mon, 11 May 1998 18:59:20 -0400 Lines: 32 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.232.50.172 X-NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.232.50.172 Message-ID: <355782a1.0@newsfeed1.cybertours.com> Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!208.136.69.33!newsfeed1.cybertours.com!208.232.50.172 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12250 greetings! I have not read other responses..here goes my 2 cents worth! When you install a package/or replace a queen and place the queen cage between frames or on the floor board..DO NOT INSPECT THAT HIVE FOR AT LEAST SEVEN DAYS!!! Let the queen spread her pheromone and allow her to adjust to the hive. BIGGEST mistake people make..too soon to inspect the hive,you waited only 2 days! You should,if you leave the bees alone, see eggs in a couple of weeks..remember,depending on the syrup and nectar/honey flow, it takes time to BUILD comb! FEED those bees a 1:1 sugar ratio..continuously,until they take no more. Herb -- Holly-B Apiary P.O. Box 26 Wells,Maine 04090-0026 http://www.cybertours.com/~midnitebee michael wrote in message <355052FA.B8681AFB@mis.net>... >Hello all, I installed my first package of bees Tueday the 28th of April >checked them Thursday and the queen had been freeded. Being naturally >nervous (like an expectant father) I am egar to see if the queen is >laying good. Not really knowing what to look for, how soon can I expect >to see eggs? > >Thank you, Michael > Article 12251 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!portc02.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: beecrofter@aol.com (BeeCrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Ulee's gold Lines: 1 Message-ID: <1998051122493600.SAA17754@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 11 May 1998 22:49:35 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <35570beb.232817198@enews.newsguy.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12251 Must be a magician to fill all them drums with them weak hives. Article 12252 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.columbia.edu!panix!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.direct.ca!logbridge.uoregon.edu!enews.sgi.com!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.rmit.EDU.AU!goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au!not-for-mail From: dnl@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au (David 'Igor' Latter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Wiring board Date: 12 May 1998 11:43:34 +1000 Organization: Comp Sci, RMIT University, Melbourne, Australia. Lines: 127 Distribution: world Message-ID: <6j89g6$led$1@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.cs.rmit.edu.au NNTP-Posting-User: dnl X-Newsreader: NN version 6.5.1 (NOV) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12252 "D Pierce" writes: >I'm just getting started with bees and would like to make a wiring board. >Does anyone know of a website that has a detailed drawing of one? Thanks for >any help. ------------------------ I first posted this some time ago. This is what I built for myself, I hope it helps. If there is enough interest, I'll re-draw it and put it on the web (with dimensions). Sorry, for the ascii graphics! David ============================================================================ Wire tension setup. ------------------LLLLLL-------------LLLLLL---------- | ========================= | | ++++ | | | | + + [-] | | | | + + | | | | ++++ ---0| frame |0--- | | wire | | | | spool | | | | | | | | |_____________________| | | HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH | | | | | | | ----------------------------------------------------- The wire spool is mounted on a large bolt and washers to enable the wire spool to spin freely. The bit to the right [-] is something like a block of nylon, or whatever, I used nylon. It stops the wire spooling off the wire reel when you cut off the frame. (You get wire tangles without it) The wire is fed in the top hole of the frame and fed through the other holes and is terminated by wrapping the wire around a tack and driving it into the wood frame. The LLLLL bits on the top of the frame are bits of angle iron screwed onto the top side of the base with a flat side hanging over where the frame top board is shown. This holds it in position. The HHHHHHHHHHH at the bottom of the frame is just a bit of wood about the same height as the frame. These mounts must enable the top of the frame to slip under the angle iron at the top and to go neatly down beside the wood bar at the bottom. Ok, now you have the frame held into position with the wire terminated at the lower right side. The bits at the frame sides drawn as: ---0 enlarged will look like: ============================= | | \________/ / \ Side view Note machined grove around the centre |________| This is where the wire must be free to move from the second to the third hole. This only has to be done at the left side of the frame. ------ / \ |============================= \ 0 / ------ Top view. This is 180 degrees out for the left unit. note the offset hole. This slides over a small bolt (better if welded onto a thin plate if you use a wood base, or the bold moves in the wood. Screw the plate down well.) You then have a sort of cam. The one on the other side (right side) is the mirror image! (it does not have to have the grove cut in it) These cams are used to flex the end side of the frame in (dont over do it or you will bust the frame) You now pull the wire up firmly by hand, turn it around a tack half driven in above the top left hole, then hammer the tack in and flex the wire off. The wire snaps off under the tack head, which does not leave a sharp wire to jab your fingers! Then when you release the cams, the wire will be very firm. Notes: If you over tighten the wire, it will cut the frames, I use a bold ground down as a punch to make a 5mm 45 degree hollow at each hole at the side of the frame, this helps to stop the wire cutting too deep. You can use metal inserts or even a staple next to the hole postitioned where the wire runs over it. Also note, if the outside circle that presses into the wood is too smooth it will slip when you try to tie off the wire, releasing the wire tension. If this happens, use a grinder to rough it up a little. The cams are about 30 to 40 mm , but the size is not critical, just the cam action. I'll have to go home and properly measure mine if more details are needed. ------------------ To melt the wire into the foundation sheet, I have a thick (40mm) block of wood (must be flat) that is the right size for the frame to fit over it. A wax sheet is inserted into the cut at the top of the frame and held against the wire. The fame and wax sheet are slid over the wood block, with the wax down, under the wires!. Then using this: ====================================[T]== I I I I I The ===== is a wooden board a bit longer than the frames The [T] is a heavy push button switch The I are nails hammered into the board at the same height. Wires are soldered to the end two nails, one going via the switch and both going to a 6 volt transformer that is able to put out at least 3 or 4 amps. This tool is gently pressed on the wire, the switch pressed, the wire heats and slowly melts the wax, you release the switch as soon as the wire moves into the wax. You may hit the switch again to sink it in further... Note, this will only take a few seconds! Dont over do it or you will melt the wax in half. Hold the bar steady untill the wax sets a bit, which will only be a few seconds if you didnt overheat it. Dont use anything over 6 volts....it's too quick! I hope this helps a few people.... it took long enough to type! Article 12253 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: hdsearcher@aol.com (HDsearcher) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Boy Scouts and Beekeeping Lines: 10 Message-ID: <1998051204225400.AAA06166@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 12 May 1998 04:22:54 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12253 Well I guess the bee keeping merit badge for boy scouts is not dead (yet anyway). My son was awarded his this evening by his scout master. About the ugliest example of a bee I've ever seen. But hey, he worked for it and earned it, so who am I to melt his wax. But of course my underlying reason for posting this. Is that it is still available and maybe, just maybe, someone else can give the young a deeper appreciation for the bee. Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, Youth group, church group. Or you can just keep what you've learned to yourself I suppose. A man in search of knowledge is always looking for something (me) Article 12254 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!interpath.net!news-dc-2.sprintlink.net!news-east.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: jack_griffes@hotmail.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Varroa treatment from Central North Carolina Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 05:04:30 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 136 Message-ID: <6j8l8u$rd0$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> References: <6iv09l$4o5k$1@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com> <1998051003292100.XAA08282@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 198.108.56.29 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue May 12 05:04:30 1998 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 4.0; Windows 95) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12254 In article <1998051003292100.XAA08282@ladder03.news.aol.com>, hdsearcher@aol.com (HDsearcher) wrote: > > Well, by reading this thread. I believe I'll never buy honey again. Since you are a beekeeper yourself (I think you are anyway) then I would doubt you buy much honey as it is. Even other floral sources honey can often be traded for ya know. >There is > no telling what chemicals it might contain and at what strength. You want to know something? Well even if you don't here goes anyway - when the Sec. 18 strips (EMERGENCY) where first used here in MI the blooming bee inspectors (which we have since denied the right of trespass to via legislation) had to oversee both installation and removal of said strips. In a public bee meeting the then largest beekeeper in the state reported of said time that in at least one hive the strips were not removed quite unintentionally (3,000 colonies or so is what he had then). When he discovered this fact he brought it to the attention of the bee inspectors who then took samples of his honey to see if any traces of fl---- could be found in it (as there is ZERO tolerance for it due to the way the product was originally tested/registered) and guess what THEY COULD NOT FIND ANY!!!!! Which ain't really so amazing if you think about the fact that it is a CONTACT miticide - it is not ingested by the bees so it stands very little chance of getting in the honey via the bees themselves. When it is found in very small traces in honey (in other countries) it is my understanding that this is due to traces of wax in the honey and the fl------ is really in/on the wax which happens to be suspended in the honey sample. >If a person > can't follow simple instructions of when to place and remove the strips then > I'm quite sure that very same person is not worried about selling his product > when the bee's collect their nectar and the strips where left in place. Recall that I related reality to you. I did not say that I condoned or approved of it. Another bit of reality might include that since the new strips are "not reusable" it might well be assumed that much if not most all the fl---- is tracked off the blooming strips by the time the strips should be jerked out anyway. Ever made the rounds of a thousand plus colonies to see how much extra time is involved making an extra trip? > Instructions are designed for a purpose (not the purpose of being ignored). If > they don't work, then do something about getting them changed. Quit adding > problems to an already intolerable situation. > It might be noted that the makers of the dandy strips themselves have changed the instructions for use at least twice or is it thrice in my memory. Feedback from what was and what was not working in the field is I believe what sparked the last change in the directions. As to the problems being added please innumerate what they are as I surely ain't following you on that one - leaving strips in overwinter then jerking them out come Spring is NOT a good way to encourage fl--- resistant mites as per your original thesis - sorry but it just ain't so the way I understand the genetics involved. In my estimation the most intolerable situation is the way so many beekeepers abdicate any personal responsibility to cooperatively work out the best long term solution to our mite and disease woes - GENETIC RESISTANCE. Right NOW HIP has a colony of bees that have lived in MI 4 years UNTREATED under observation in one of our HIP test yards - we have others that are THRIVING after two years UNTREATED in a HIP test yard. The most promising 2 year Untreated Thriving Survivor had 13 Deep frames of brood in late April and out of 100 drone pupae examined NOT ONE mite was found (I am certain there are some mites in the colony but apparently not many). The queen is marked and is the original - a descendant of one of our original batch of HIP AI queens. We are working on getting lots of her daughters out in hives so we can use drones from her best daughters in our HIP AI project. The 4 year Untreated colony mentioned is descended from a later brooding line and had 6 frames of brood on the same late April check date BUT is now booming out and looking more impressive - that line is NOT geared toward early pollination but if ya ain't into that it does have a longer broodless or nearly broodless period which conserves stores and gives the mites less opportunity to reproduce. Okay now that is enough of examples to give you a clue - now imagine if just us 9 common beekeepers involved in HIP can find stock such as that among what we have and what we have intentionally gone out of our way to test - just imagine now if instead of 9 Cooperators we had a whole series of Cooperative breeding programs going in every state. Let's just say that in every state we had 5 beekeepers with at least 500 colonies each and each one picked out the best 20 to put into his/her own Untreated test yard each year. Hmmmmm - that would be 5 times 48 (Hawaii has no mites - not sure if Alaska does or not) or 240 total beekeepers involved. If each one put out his/her best 20 colonies each year to test them you would be talking about 4,800 colonies selected out of a base of 120,000 or more. If each of the Cooperators then ran tests on the best in their test yard and they used just the best colony that survived in thriving condition for two or more years untreated - well come on now you can see for yourself how each person putting in a little could make a HUGE difference via cooperative effort - can't you? And the real shame is we have all the means to do it - we can do AI and yet most of the few VR programs are so blooming puny they hardly stand a decent chance of producing a actually field usable bee even if it can be shown to possess some level of VR. BUT if the beekeepers actually did what they could well do (and what HIP is doing) then we could find and put together the genetic package we need more quickly and more surely. And all it would require is a bit of extra and VERY worthwhile effort - marking colonies that are exceptionally good - surveying amongst them to find those lowest in mite infestation level - taking them to a HIP test yard, then among the survivors grafting off the very best one and pitching in toward the AI project. Now I know all the common excuses so don't bother offering them. I just remind you that breeding to improve your livestock (in this case bees) is a hallmark of a truly good livestock producer. The man who leaves the genetics to chance or to someone else is unlikely to recieve the rewards associated with genetically improving his livestock in ways that will allow it to better help him make a living. Think about it - pushing the genetics always towards the very best - hmmmm I wonder why we need more supers every year?? It takes continuing commitments to make such changes happen - it ain't no overnight project - we are talking long term work with short term dividends along the way even before the goal of "80+% Untreated Thriving Survivor daughters of HIP breeder queens." It is a lofty goal indeed but one worth working for as well. Now if we just could get more beekeepers to actually work cooperatively together for the common good - may miracles never cease. Sincerely, Jack Griffes Coordinator/Founder of the Honeybee Improvement Program http://members.tripod.com/~Griffes/ -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading Article 12255 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping From: josephj@NOSPAMsurf-ici.com (Mushroom) Subject: Re: Boy Scouts and Beekeeping References: <1998051204225400.AAA06166@ladder01.news.aol.com> X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 05:42:05 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 209.100.145.71 Message-ID: <3557e2af.0@news3.paonline.com> Lines: 33 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!news.eng.convex.com!news.ecn.ou.edu!news.ecn.uoknor.edu!news.ysu.edu!Cabal.CESspool!bofh.vszbr.cz!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.44.3.66!news-out.microserve.net!news-in.microserve.net!news3.paonline.com!basement Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12255 In article <1998051204225400.AAA06166@ladder01.news.aol.com>, hdsearcher@aol.com (HDsearcher) wrote: >Well I guess the bee keeping merit badge for boy scouts is not dead (yet >anyway). My son was awarded his this evening by his scout master. About the >ugliest example of a bee I've ever seen. But hey, he worked for it and earned >it, so who am I to melt his wax. But of course my underlying reason for >posting this. Is that it is still available and maybe, just maybe, someone >else can give the young a deeper appreciation for the bee. Boy Scouts, Girl >Scouts, Youth group, church group. Or you can just keep what you've learned to >yourself I suppose. > >A man in search of knowledge is always looking for something (me) This is a perfect example to PUBLICLY thank Rick Suk for providing me with the requirements for subject merit badge. I have discovered I must submit to a background check to be an 'approved' mentor. I am still waiting for the forms. . Meanwhile the children are ready to rock. Concerning youthful interest. The land owner of one of my apiaries is in his early 30's. When I asked about the site he was estatic, he wanted two things. A: To enjoy a quiet natural area on his land and B: Keep his nephew and friends from tearing up the stated area with thier motorcycles. I love being able to help out a friend.:) ANYway, his fear of bees is falling bit by bit. One year soon I hope to be sharing the labor and THEN being asked to leave as he takes over the area. Not to worry, there are other lands. I would be smiling all the way. More bees can't be a bad thing.:) Article 12256 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey03.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.com (Pollinator) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Need help ! Date: 12 May 1998 06:37:28 GMT Lines: 29 Message-ID: <1998051206372800.CAA11970@ladder03.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder03.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <6j1oq5$53h$1@pticom.dipt.donetsk.ua> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12256 In article <6j1oq5$53h$1@pticom.dipt.donetsk.ua>, "Praktika" writes: >Dear Sirs please help us find any firm or that sales >equipment to produce "Honey sticks " (candy). >Thanks in avance. >E-mail: roman@praktika.donetsk.ua Two US manufacturers: (Note: they may consider this proprietary info, but it can't hurt to ask.) Glorybee Foods Inc, 120 N. Seneca Rd. Eugene OR 97402 800-456-7923 Endless Mountains Apiaries, RR2, Box 171A, New Milford, PA 18834 717-465-3232 Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA The Pollination Scene: http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Jan's Sweetness and Light Shop (Varietal Honeys and Beeswax Candles) http://users.aol.com/SweetnessL/sweetlit.htm Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA The Pollination Scene: http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Jan's Sweetness and Light Shop (Varietal Honeys and Beeswax Candles) http://users.aol.com/SweetnessL/sweetlit.htm Article 12257 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!nntprelay.mathworks.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: pollinator@aol.com (Pollinator) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Swarm Date: 12 May 1998 06:37:27 GMT Lines: 25 Message-ID: <1998051206372701.CAA16219@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <6j378r$dn3@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12257 In article <6j378r$dn3@bgtnsc03.worldnet.att.net>, smokey writes: >I tried to take my first swarm of the season and merge them with a weak >hive. I used the "newspaper" method to introduce the bees but the next >morning, all the swarm was gone. Any tips on how to go about this with >more success? Swarms are often jumpy and will move on with little provocation. They are best hived at dusk, so that they spend at least the night in their new quarters. I believe you'd also have better luck at joining them with another, if you get the swarm established in their own hive first. Once they have brood, they are unlikely to abscond. Notice that I did not say: they never will abscond! Swarms (and package bees) need to be left alone for the first few days after hiving, except for keeping lots of syrup going to them. Pollinator@aol.com Dave Green Hemingway, SC USA The Pollination Scene: http://users.aol.com/pollinator/polpage1.html Jan's Sweetness and Light Shop (Varietal Honeys and Beeswax Candles) http://users.aol.com/SweetnessL/sweetlit.htm Article 12258 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!interpath.net!news-dc-2.sprintlink.net!news-nysernet-5.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!128.122.253.90!newsfeed.nyu.edu!news.idt.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!128.230.129.106!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp2.dejanews.com!nnrp1.dejanews.com!not-for-mail From: bhanson@vaix2.net Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: ants Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 12:43:58 GMT Organization: Deja News - The Leader in Internet Discussion Lines: 15 Message-ID: <6j9g6e$ril$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 208.27.74.212 X-Article-Creation-Date: Tue May 12 12:43:58 1998 GMT X-Http-User-Agent: Mozilla/4.05 (Macintosh; I; PPC) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12258 I recently observed some ants roaming on and through a hive, that seems healthy. My concern is that I saw one ant carrying what appeared to be an egg. Could the ants be robbing me of population? What other threats might they be providing me? Has anyone had any luck putting vinegar around the bottom of the hive stand? I know vinegar works great to discourage ants indoors. All replies welcome. Ben bhanson@vaix2.net -----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading Article 12259 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!newsfeed.atl.bellsouth.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!nott!bcarh189.bnr.ca!bcarh8ac.bnr.ca!nrtphc11.bnr.ca!news From: Adrian Kyte Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Wiring Frame Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 13:53:07 +0100 Organization: Bell Northern Research Lines: 182 Message-ID: <35584633.3C10@nt.com> Reply-To: adrian.kyte@nt.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.38.136.48 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) CC: beeman@enterpris.net Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12259 Subject: Re: Wiring board Date: 12 May 1998 11:43:34 +1000 From: dnl@goanna.cs.rmit.edu.au (David 'Igor' Latter) Organization: Comp Sci, RMIT University, Melbourne, Australia. Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: 1 "D Pierce" writes: >I'm just getting started with bees and would like to make a wiring board. >Does anyone know of a website that has a detailed drawing of one? Thanks for >any help. ------------------------ I first posted this some time ago. This is what I built for myself, I hope it helps. If there is enough interest, I'll re-draw it and put it on the web (with dimensions). Sorry, for the ascii graphics! David ============================================================================ Wire tension setup. ------------------LLLLLL-------------LLLLLL---------- | ========================= | | ++++ | | | | + + [-] | | | | + + | | | | ++++ ---0| frame |0--- | | wire | | | | spool | | | | | | | | |_____________________| | | HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH | | | | | | | ----------------------------------------------------- The wire spool is mounted on a large bolt and washers to enable the wire spool to spin freely. The bit to the right [-] is something like a block of nylon, or whatever, I used nylon. It stops the wire spooling off the wire reel when you cut off the frame. (You get wire tangles without it) The wire is fed in the top hole of the frame and fed through the other holes and is terminated by wrapping the wire around a tack and driving it into the wood frame. The LLLLL bits on the top of the frame are bits of angle iron screwed onto the top side of the base with a flat side hanging over where the frame top board is shown. This holds it in position. The HHHHHHHHHHH at the bottom of the frame is just a bit of wood about the same height as the frame. These mounts must enable the top of the frame to slip under the angle iron at the top and to go neatly down beside the wood bar at the bottom. Ok, now you have the frame held into position with the wire terminated at the lower right side. The bits at the frame sides drawn as: ---0 enlarged will look like: ============================= | | \________/ / \ Side view Note machined grove around the centre |________| This is where the wire must be free to move from the second to the third hole. This only has to be done at the left side of the frame. ------ / \ |============================= \ 0 / ------ Top view. This is 180 degrees out for the left unit. note the offset hole. This slides over a small bolt (better if welded onto a thin plate if you use a wood base, or the bold moves in the wood. Screw the plate down well.) You then have a sort of cam. The one on the other side (right side) is the mirror image! (it does not have to have the grove cut in it) These cams are used to flex the end side of the frame in (dont over do it or you will bust the frame) You now pull the wire up firmly by hand, turn it around a tack half driven in above the top left hole, then hammer the tack in and flex the wire off. The wire snaps off under the tack head, which does not leave a sharp wire to jab your fingers! Then when you release the cams, the wire will be very firm. Notes: If you over tighten the wire, it will cut the frames, I use a bold ground down as a punch to make a 5mm 45 degree hollow at each hole at the side of the frame, this helps to stop the wire cutting too deep. You can use metal inserts or even a staple next to the hole postitioned where the wire runs over it. Also note, if the outside circle that presses into the wood is too smooth it will slip when you try to tie off the wire, releasing the wire tension. If this happens, use a grinder to rough it up a little. The cams are about 30 to 40 mm , but the size is not critical, just the cam action. I'll have to go home and properly measure mine if more details are needed. ------------------ To melt the wire into the foundation sheet, I have a thick (40mm) block of wood (must be flat) that is the right size for the frame to fit over it. A wax sheet is inserted into the cut at the top of the frame and held against the wire. The fame and wax sheet are slid over the wood block, with the wax down, under the wires!. Then using this: ====================================[T]== I I I I I The ===== is a wooden board a bit longer than the frames The [T] is a heavy push button switch The I are nails hammered into the board at the same height. Wires are soldered to the end two nails, one going via the switch and both going to a 6 volt transformer that is able to put out at least 3 or 4 amps. This tool is gently pressed on the wire, the switch pressed, the wire heats and slowly melts the wax, you release the switch as soon as the wire moves into the wax. You may hit the switch again to sink it in further... Note, this will only take a few seconds! Dont over do it or you will melt the wax in half. Hold the bar steady untill the wax sets a bit, which will only be a few seconds if you didnt overheat it. Dont use anything over 6 volts....it's too quick! I hope this helps a few people.... it took long enough to type! -- Regards Adrian :-{)} I'm based in Devon which is in the South West corner of England. All views expressed or implied are my own not my employers. work: adrian.kyte.delete_this@nt.com home: beeman.dlete_this@enterprise.net Article 12260 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Kidney John" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <6j9g6e$ril$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> Subject: Re: ants Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 15:08:23 +0100 Lines: 35 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 NNTP-Posting-Host: pm1-224.dial.nildram.co.uk Message-ID: <355852b3.0@mercury.nildram.co.uk> Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!205.252.116.205.MISMATCH!howland.erols.net!newsfeed.internetmci.com!194.72.7.126!btnet-peer!btnet!news.clara.net!peer.news.nildram.co.uk!mercury.nildram.co.uk!pm1-224.dial.nildram.co.uk Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12260 bhanson@vaix2.net wrote in message <6j9g6e$ril$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>... >I recently observed some ants roaming on and through a hive, that seems >healthy. My concern is that I saw one ant carrying what appeared to be an >egg. Could the ants be robbing me of population? What other threats might >they be providing me? Has anyone had any luck putting vinegar around the >bottom of the hive stand? I know vinegar works great to discourage ants >indoors. > >All replies welcome. > >Ben > >bhanson@vaix2.net > >-----== Posted via Deja News, The Leader in Internet Discussion ==----- >http://www.dejanews.com/ Now offering spam-free web-based newsreading There are many ways to keep ants, and other insects, out. My current favourite is Teflon (TM) tape, which you put on vertical surfaces. Theoretically, nothing can climb up it! (www.thorne.co.uk for more inf.) '#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#'#' John SPAM@gemini.nildram.co.uk Take Me to Your Dealer! Abolish the Monarchy! Auto-delete address. Change 'SPAM' to 'bees' to e-mail. Article 12261 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: pollen traps Date: 12 May 1998 17:19:33 GMT Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 2 Message-ID: <01bd7dc9$da75e5a0$69c366ce@pavilion> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.102.195.105 X-Trace: 894993573 LCXKGXCMTC369CE66C usenet52.supernews.com X-Complaints-To: newsabuse@supernews.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1162 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12261 Need plans for a pollen cleaner and self cleaner pollen trap. Thanks. momsplace@theriver.com Article 12262 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!interpath.net!nntp.news.xara.net!xara.net!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!news.imp.ch!imp.ch!news.telemedia.ch!tisdial1.tis.ch From: "francis" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Varroa treatment from Central North Carolina Date: 12 May 98 19:33:46 GMT Organization: privat Lines: 36 Message-ID: <01bd7ddc$8ba89400$c280a19d@default> References: <6ijg5q$ot1$1@winter.news.erols.com> <1998050502133200.WAA22150@ladder01.news.aol.com>#1/1 <6ioo1h$u97$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: news.telemedia.ch X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1157 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12262 jack_griffes@hotmail.com schrieb im Beitrag <6ioo1h$u97$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>... > In article <1998050502133200.WAA22150@ladder01.news.aol.com>#1/1, > beecrofter@aol.com (BeeCrofter) wrote: > > snip > > Then following that economic decision Joe > realizes it eats up a lot of time soaking wood strips and putting them in > colonies so he starts spraying the bottom bars and bottom boards and if that > don't seem to work eventually he pops the lids and hits the top bars. All > the while Joe is switching over from careful dosing to eyeball dosing and > thus goes the recipe for actually producing fluvalinte resistant mites. Then > when the spray stops working Joe gets some strips and trys them again. Mind > you I don't condone that but I do understand that it is what has happened. > snip From my own observation, this is exactly how it had happened in parts of the old world. While any biocide treatment may lead to resistance in the target population there are certainly ways to accelerate it! Try and explain to Joe that Apistan is not just a drug substance but at the same time an application form (the strip) which had been carefully developed for delivering the right concentration of 'stuff' over the right period of time over most of the hive? francis Article 12263 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!192.26.210.166.MISMATCH!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!news.quebectel.com!not-for-mail From: "NAME" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Rimouski Québec Date: 12 May 1998 19:48:45 GMT Organization: GlobeTrotter Lines: 8 Message-ID: <01bd7dde$f25af1a0$1a00a8c0@wg26.wingate> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts1-03.f104.quebectel.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12263 We are in the spring; it's a wonderfut season after the winter.I like to see the sea whithout ice.The fishermen begin to fish in the Saint-Laurent river. I like ti travel along the river during the spring and the summer. Bye From Québec Pauline Article 12264 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!portc04.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: ntemplar@aol.com (NTemplar) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: When a Bee Keeper dies Lines: 13 Message-ID: <1998051221241300.RAA12380@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 12 May 1998 21:24:13 GMT Organization: AOL, http://www.aol.co.uk Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12264 I heard this really creepy superstition the other day about when a Bee Keeper (note please the capital letters) dies. The superstition goes ... that when a Bee Keeper dies, someone preferably his wife or husband should go and tell his bees - otherwise they will leave (I nearly said depart) the hive. spooky! Someone said that this has been disproved as many times as it had been proved. Does this superstition prevail outside the UK? regards Nick Article 12265 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!news.sgi.com!sdd.hp.com!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!news.indiana.edu!ais.net!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: beecrofter@aol.com (BeeCrofter) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Beekeeping in the Bahamas Lines: 6 Message-ID: <1998051221270700.RAA12746@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Date: 12 May 1998 21:27:07 GMT Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com References: <35586FC3.CBD@ix.netcom.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12265 I have some friends who are building their dream home on the Island of Eleuthera and are thinking of taking up beekeeping. Can anyone provide information on beekeeping in the Bahamas and whether bees can be brought there from the USA or obtained on Island. Thanks- Tom in CT Article 12266 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!eecs-usenet-02.mit.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!195.99.66.215!news-feed1.eu.concert.net!news.worldonline.nl!not-for-mail From: "Bouke" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: varoa Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 23:23:35 +0200 Organization: World Online Lines: 4 Message-ID: <6jaedg$h56$1@news.worldonline.nl> NNTP-Posting-Host: grngn1-p39.worldonline.nl X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1712.3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.71.1712.3 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12266 I missed the discussion about the possible cure of the varoa mite by mineral oil. Please send me info. Article 12267 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!ais.net!uunet!in1.uu.net!grolier!not-for-mail From: LOIC Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Software Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 23:33:08 +0200 Organization: Votre société Lines: 2 Message-ID: <3558C014.2A80@club-internet.fr> Reply-To: lstmbee@club-internet.fr NNTP-Posting-Host: bordeaux3-67.club-internet.fr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 [fr]C-CLUB (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12267 I Look for a software for management hives AT download on the WEB,thanks you for vos reply ! Article 12268 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: "Kidney John" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping References: <1998051221241300.RAA12380@ladder01.news.aol.com> Subject: Re: When a Bee Keeper dies Date: Tue, 12 May 1998 22:57:36 +0100 Lines: 36 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.72.2106.4 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V4.72.2106.4 NNTP-Posting-Host: pm1-211.dial.nildram.co.uk Message-ID: <3558c3fb.0@mercury.nildram.co.uk> Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!news.dal.ca!sunqbc.risq.qc.ca!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!peer.news.nildram.co.uk!mercury.nildram.co.uk!pm1-211.dial.nildram.co.uk Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:12268 NTemplar wrote in message <1998051221241300.RAA12380@ladder01.news.aol.com>... >I heard this really creepy superstition the other day ab