Article 9862 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,sci.agriculture.fruit,sci.agriculture.poultry,sci.agriculture.ratites Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news-dc-10.sprintlink.net!news-dc-2.sprintlink.net!news-east.sprintlink.net!news-dc-26.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!192.80.84.4!mv!riker From: aw-admin@auctionweb.com (Auctions On the Web) Subject: AUCTIONS: Farm Equipment, as listed on NETIS Auctions On the Web X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.0 Beta #0 Organization: NETIS Auctions On the Web, http://www.auctionweb.com Message-ID: X-Nntp-Posting-Host: riker.netis.com Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 15:04:45 GMT Lines: 87 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture:21560 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9862 sci.agriculture.fruit:1183 sci.agriculture.poultry:3515 sci.agriculture.ratites:951 NETIS Auctions On the Web (http://www.auctionweb.com) is the Internet's largest and most active listing and advertising service for "conventional" auction companies (the kind where you attend the auction and call out your bid to the auctioneer, as opposed to the kind where you place your bids online). 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(716)-777-SURF Lines: 1 Message-ID: <34329566.21190431@news.frontiernet.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: as5200-2-34.hgl.ny.frontiernet.net X-Complaints-To: abuse@frontiernet.net X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/32.235 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9863 This is a test of my computer to see if it is working o-k. Article 9864 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!198.207.169.10!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wildbee!andy.nachbaur From: andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: bees Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 04:05:00 GMT Message-ID: <9710011757202656@beenet.com> Organization: WILD BEE'S BBS (209) 826-8107 LOS BANOS, CA Distribution: world References: Lines: 22 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9864 FYI* Have bees in Australia will ship any place in the world? ---------------------------------------- From: "M. Alkhlawi" Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 11:05:08 +1000 Subject: bees Dear Andy Nachbaur Our company name is Al Khlawi Trading Company. We are located in Melbourne, Australia. We export live bees and queen bees, to any country in the world. If you or anyone you know are interested in these products please contact us for further information. We would be pleased to send you the details and prices of our products. We have a fast, efficient delivery service and can supply goods throughout the year. Our prices are quoted on a CIF basis. We look forward to hearing from you soon. Best regards, M. Alkhlawi --- þ QMPro 1.53 þ I Love HONEY! I Love HONEY! I Love HONEY! I Love U HONEY! Article 9865 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!206.229.87.25!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!198.207.169.10!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wildbee!andy.nachbaur From: andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Colorado Bee Conditions Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 01:23:00 GMT Message-ID: <9710011825122659@beenet.com> Organization: WILD BEE'S BBS (209) 826-8107 LOS BANOS, CA Distribution: world References: <5h19g9$scm@usenet11.interramp.com> Lines: 25 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9865 Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 13:34:22 -0700 Subject: Colorado http://www.ams.usda.gov/archive/day1/dx%5Ffv193.txt Denver Federal State October 1, 1997 YAKIMA-WASHINGTON WASHINGTON-D.C. COLORADO HONEY REPORT Beekeepers around the state are reporting their colonies as being in fairly good condition at this time as the weather during the month of September was very favorable for most of the month to allow the colonies to work the alfalfa and wild flowers that bloomed late. Beekeepers are currently preparing their colonies in the holding yards and will start to send them out of state during the winter months. The month of September produced some heavy rains during the first few days of the month, but overall it was a very pleasant month. Temperatures in the Denver area averaged between 75-85 degrees for the highs and very pleasant 45-50 degrees for the night time lows. Guttierrez --- þ QMPro 1.53 þ ... Yet, like the bee returning to her queen, Article 9866 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!204.215.84.101!news.fred.net!newsmaster From: Sorin Damian Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: apitherapy Date: Wed, 01 Oct 1997 22:05:53 -0700 Organization: Triton Lines: 17 Message-ID: <34332BB1.C7A56E26@fred.net> References: <328A312D.4BA9@snds.com> <56a63c$m2@s02-brighton.pavilion.co.uk> <9709210958042620@beenet.com> <34281A71.66A8@ix.netcom.com> Reply-To: sorin@fred.net NNTP-Posting-Host: sorin.fred.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news.fred.net 875757673 27479 205.252.223.113 (2 Oct 1997 02:01:13 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@fred.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) To: John Germany Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9866 There is a full-sized Research Institute in Bucharest, Romania. They have a very strong Apitherapy Dept. with technicians, doctors and of course patients...they also have own apiaries to get all the needed bee hive products. Also a full line of apicultural products. No wonder. The world apiculture printhouse is also there. I've been there and was impressed by the large scale approach of apiculture-apitherapy. John Germany wrote: > does anyone have any information on apitherapy? I have been to the > apitherapy society web site, which is excellent. I am looking for hive > management techniques as well as any practical info on the practice of > apitherapy. many thanks! Article 9867 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!worldnet.att.net!newsadm From: "J Bergma" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Problem with bees in my house Date: 2 Oct 1997 05:34:06 GMT Organization: AT&T WorldNet Services Lines: 24 Message-ID: <01bccef4$c8b553c0$80cc74cf@bbb> Reply-To: "J Bergma" NNTP-Posting-Host: 207.116.204.128 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9867 Hi and thanks for reading, There is a beehive between my chimney and house (and in the wall I think)and the bees are getting into the room directly behind the chimney, I think they are coming through the window casing (the ones that have the pulleys, ropes and counter balances). I really don't want to do something stupid and piss them off and drive more of them into the house. I thought about getting a shopvac type of vacuum and mounting the hose near the entry point of the hive and suck them in when they come out during the day. They are very active in the daytime. What do you think? Here are some facts: They are not wasps. It's starting to get cold out at night(around 40 F.) and its in the 50's-60's in the day. They did not bother us during the summer.(because it wasn't cold out) The chimney is not used for anything. Totally inactive. We can not tear down the chimney.(we rent) Any help would be greatly appreciated! Thank You, Jody Bergman -- bergmax79@worldnet.att.net Anti-Spam address"Remove X before using" Article 9868 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: SYSAM@uacsc2.albany.edu (Aaron Morris) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Dead bees in front of hive Date: Thu, 02 Oct 97 08:05:48 EDT Organization: University at Albany, Albany NY 12222 Lines: 26 Message-ID: <17BFB71DFS86.SYSAM@uacsc2.albany.edu> References: <01bccc82$b420e240$92d0afce@clarkson> <01bcce05$df849e20$689bfacd@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: uacsc2.albany.edu Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!206.229.87.25!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!128.226.1.24!bingnews.binghamton.edu!rebecca!uacsc2.albany.edu!SYSAM Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9868 In article <01bcce05$df849e20$689bfacd@default> "J&D BEES" writes: > >Could be the time that all the Drones are kicked out of the hive > >George Clarkson wrote in article ><01bccc82$b420e240$92d0afce@clarkson>... >> Today I saw a pile dead bees about an inch deep and a foot in diameter in >> front of a hive... >> >> Could this be a mite infestation? Any other ideas? Thanks for any help. >> -- >> George Clarkson >> Lakewood, CO >> e-mail: ghclark@sprynet.com >> I doubt highly the drone suggestion. The condition you describe in nigh impossible to diagnose over the net. Could be pesticide, could be mites, could be post robbing carnage, could be lots of things. Best suggestion here is to find a local experienced beekeeper or inspector to have a look. I believe this original post was made this past weekend. The longer it takes to have someone look, the harder it will be to make an accurate diagnosis. Aaron Morris - I think, therefore I bee! Article 9869 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!gsl-penn-ns.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.belnet.be!news.fundp.ac.be!mac-biochimie1.biocell.fundp.ac.be!user From: bmartin@biocell.fundp.ac.be (Benoit MARTIN) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: apitherapy Date: Tue, 30 Sep 1997 09:22:11 +0100 Organization: F.U.N.D.P - Cellular Biochemistry Lines: 17 Message-ID: References: <328A312D.4BA9@snds.com> <56a63c$m2@s02-brighton.pavilion.co.uk> <9709210958042620@beenet.com> <34281A71.66A8@ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mac-biochimie1.biocell.fundp.ac.be Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9869 In article (Dans l'article) <34281A71.66A8@ix.netcom.com>, John Germany wrote (écrivait) : > does anyone have any information on apitherapy? I have been to the > apitherapy society web site, which is excellent. Which is the address of this site ? Thanks -- Benoit MARTIN Laboratory of Cellular Biochemistry, Facultes Universitaires ND de la Paix, 61, rue de Bruxelles, B-5000 Namur (Belgium). Fax: ++/32/81/72.41.35. Email: bmartin@biocell.fundp.ac.be Article 9870 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!netnews.com!news.idt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!mail2news.demon.co.uk!benburb.demon.co.uk!joe From: joe@benburb.demon.co.uk (joe mc cool) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Dead bees in front of hive Date: Wed, 01 Oct 97 06:57:08 GMT Organization: Myorganisation Message-ID: <875689028snz@benburb.demon.co.uk> References: <01bccc82$b420e240$92d0afce@clarkson> Reply-To: joe@benburb.demon.co.uk X-Mail2News-User: joe@benburb.demon.co.uk X-Mail2News-Path: benburb.demon.co.uk X-Trace: mail2news.demon.co.uk 875689097 3526 joe benburb.demon.co.uk X-Complaints-To: abuse@demon.net X-Newsreader: Demon Internet Simple News v1.30 Lines: 18 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9870 In article <01bccc82$b420e240$92d0afce@clarkson> ghclark@sprynet.com "George Clarkson" writes: > Today I saw a pile dead bees about an inch deep and a foot in diameter in > front of a hive. I opened the hive to inspect but did not see anything Could also be the result of robbing. -- joe mc cool remove ns from signature The more you say the less the better. ======================================================================== Tangent Computer Research internet: joens@benburb.demon.co.uk Benburb compuserve: 100117,2613 N. Ireland voice : (044) 861 548074 BT71 7LN fax : (044) 861 549860 ======================================================================== Article 9871 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: wvapiaries@aol.com (WVApiaries) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Mite Research abstracts Date: 2 Oct 1997 20:21:52 GMT Lines: 8 Message-ID: <19971002202101.QAA21564@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <3423D43B.5A4B@ix.netcom.com> Organization: AOL, http://www.aol.co.uk X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9871 Thom, you may like to look at the I.B.R.A.(international bee research association) home page, don't have their address handy sorry. Here in Europe we've had mite problems for quite a while, of particular interest varroa that has begun to show signs of resistance to treatment. A UK address of note would be Rothamstead, a lot of mite research being done at the moment. USA, any info from Keith Delaplane, Associate Prof Entomology, University of Georgia would be worth looking at, he gave a talk in UK that was run twice to cope with demand. hope this is of use. Article 9872 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!venus.sun.com!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!eastnews1.East.Sun.COM!walters.East.Sun.COM!usenet From: Brian Boerner Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: NH Beekeeping Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 15:49:37 -0400 Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc., Chelmsford, MA. Lines: 21 Message-ID: <3433FAD1.83523884@spam.sunspot.tiac.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: sst4849.east.sun.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.5.1 sun4u) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9872 Does anyone have any contacts for the NH Beekeeping Association. I was speaking with someone in Merrimack NH, but I lost his phone number. I have also, unfortunately, forgotten his name as well. I am interested in going out and finding out about beekeeping and perhaps helping someone prepare for the winter. I would also like to start up in the spring. Please send me some email, at the address: bboerner@spam.sunspot.tiac.net and just remove the work spam. Dont want all those harvest bots to put me on thier junk lists :) Anyways, if someone could please help me out, I would greatly appreciate it. Regards, Brian Article 9873 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!205.139.62.3!news.cyberhighway.net!not-for-mail From: "Joseph" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: apitherapy Date: 2 Oct 1997 21:40:57 GMT Organization: CyberHighway Internet Services Lines: 4 Message-ID: <01bccf7c$3d11c3c0$72e91ace@default> References: <328A312D.4BA9@snds.com> <56a63c$m2@s02-brighton.pavilion.co.uk> <9709210958042620@beenet.com> <34281A71.66A8@ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.26.233.114 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9873 The American Apitherapy Society website: http://www.beesting.com/mainpage.html Article 9874 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!205.139.62.3!news.cyberhighway.net!not-for-mail From: "Joseph" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Mite Research abstracts Date: 2 Oct 1997 21:43:57 GMT Organization: CyberHighway Internet Services Lines: 9 Message-ID: <01bccf7c$a8e7f740$72e91ace@default> References: <3423D43B.5A4B@ix.netcom.com> <19971002202101.QAA21564@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 206.26.233.114 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9874 The International Bee Research Association homepage: http://www.cardiff.ac.uk/ibra/index.html WVApiaries wrote in article <19971002202101.QAA21564@ladder01.news.aol.com>... | Thom, you may like to look at the I.B.R.A.(international bee research | association) home page, don't have their address handy sorry. Article 9875 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!131.103.1.102!iagnet.net!128.83.139.5!cs.utexas.edu!news.tamu.edu!not-for-mail From: eaguilr <"eaguilar"@polisci.tamu.edu\\> Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: WEB WORMS(?) OH NO! Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 16:37:57 -0500 Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, Texas Lines: 12 Message-ID: <6114c2$m98$1@news.tamu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: cc129.tamu.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Oct 1997 21:40:18 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (WinNT; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9875 Folks, Well, it's all over but the cleanup over here. Had a first year hive going.. doing well.. checking em every 7 dayts or so SUDDENLY, in the course of about a week, the hive was devastated by these worms ( WEB WORMS i think they are called). the bees were killed or just left, cant tell exactly. What could I have done to prevent this? Thanks for any help, edwin Article 9876 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!195.99.66.215!news-feed1.eu.concert.net!news-peer.bt.net!btnet!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news.demon.co.uk!cornwall.demon.co.uk!user From: desedmon@cornwall.demon.co.uk (Des Edmonds) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Cooling Hives 'clockwise' in the Northern Hemisphere? Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 23:13:19 +0100 Organization: Private Message-ID: NNTP-Posting-Host: cornwall.demon.co.uk X-NNTP-Posting-Host: cornwall.demon.co.uk [158.152.143.132] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Lines: 7 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9876 Bees fan air in to the hive on the left side and fan air out on the right in the UK, like water swirling down the plug, do they reverse the process anti-clockwise in the Southern Hemisphere? Thanks Des Article 9877 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!4.1.16.34.MISMATCH!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!198.207.169.10!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wildbee!andy.nachbaur From: andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Florida Bee Conditions Sept 97 Date: Fri, 3 Oct 1997 02:05:00 GMT Message-ID: <9710021909102670@beenet.com> Organization: WILD BEE'S BBS (209) 826-8107 LOS BANOS, CA Distribution: world References: <333956AA.7474@iet.hist.no> <5ha4eo$es@news.paonline.com> Lines: 23 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9877 FLORIDA HONEY REPORT FOR SEPTEMBER 1997 The month of September was dry in the north and central areas with the southern part of the State adequate to flooding, with some hives in southwest Florida being underwater. Temperatures were about normal for the month. Most bees have now been returned to the State, with only a few still out of State due to better flow than in Florida at this time. The bees are primarily feeding on the Brazilian pepper. The Brazilian pepper crop appears to be in good condition. Quite a number of bees have been lost due to the varroa mites. It appears the mites have become resistant to the treatment beekeepers have been using. Bees that are not affected by the mite are in good condition. Demand for Florida honey is fairly good at steady prices. bac --- þ QMPro 1.53 þ ... And where the bee with cowslip bells was wrestling. Article 9878 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: From: hugo.veerkamp@amigabee.org.uk (Hugo Veerkamp) Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!rill.news.pipex.net!pipex!tank.news.pipex.net!pipex!laura.pcug.co.uk!amigabee!hugo.veerkamp Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: electronic beekeeping dictionary Message-ID: <875846067@amigabee.org.uk> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 19:58:00 GMT Distribution: world Organization: Amigabee computer networking for beekeepers MSGID: 240:31/0@beenet 8714d844 PID: FM 2.12.SW UNREG Lines: 46 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9878 Introducing the Bee Pages electronic DICTIONARY OF BEEKEEPING TERMS In the early fifties, two international beekeeping organisations, IBRA ( U.K.), and APIMONDIA (Romania & Italy), decided to compile a dictionary of beekeeping terms in different languages, as an aid for translating beekeeping litterature while facilitating international contacts in the beekeeping community by removing language barriers. This dictionary was published in printed form, as computers were not yet as widely available as they are now. A long list of volumes has since been published, starting in 1951. General editor of the series of volumes is dr. Eva Crane. While these books have served their purpose well over the years, in 1994 a new idea sprang up in the mind of yours truly: perhaps it is possible to put some 1000 beekeeping terms into a database and enormously facilitate looking up of a term and the associated translation(s). It was then decided to use computer telecommunication facilities to compile a totally new wordlist in all languages spoken in the various European countries. A list of about 1000 beekeeping terms in english was sent via modem to Germany, Finland and Sweden, while French and Dutch translators were found in Holland. All through 1995/96 everybody set to work to translate and type out their wordlist. The results were received by modem in Amsterdam, were the wordlists are being prepared for use in the dictionary. We are now slowly approaching completion of a first stage in the project; A free demonstration version of the program has been placed on our website at http://www.inter.nl.net/hcc/beenet/beedic. Unforseen circumstances have delayed the project somewhat, but we hope to make good progress during the coming winter. -- Hugo Veerkamp THE BEE BBS AMSTERDAM THE BEE PAGES Email: mail : the Bee bbs Hug.Bee@net.hcc.nl P.O. BOX 51008 (send only SMALL files) 1007EA AMSTERDAM Apinet : 340:231/100 The Netherlands Beenet : 240:31/0 modem: +31 20 6764105 Fidonet: 2:2801/28 voice: +31 20 6715663 http://www.inter.nl.net/hcc/beenet --- FMail/386 1.22+ * Origin: zzz the BEE bbs Amsterdam Holland +31 20 6764105 zzz (240:31/0) Article 9879 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!portc01.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: wvapiaries@aol.com (WVApiaries) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: NH Beekeeping Date: 3 Oct 1997 08:49:39 GMT Lines: 7 Message-ID: <19971003084901.EAA10469@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <3433FAD1.83523884@spam.sunspot.tiac.net> Organization: AOL, http://www.aol.co.uk X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9879 Hi Brian, Dr Siegried Thewke is (or was) the State Apiarist for NH and based at Dept Ag, Hazen drive, Concorde NH 3301. Ph (603) 271369 Fax (603) 2711109. He might be able to put you in touch with a local association or commercial beekeeper looking for another pair of hands on the weekend. His full address plus is in A:/aiadir.htm . Hope this is of some help. Gareth (English/Welsh border, UK) Article 9880 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!141.211.144.13.MISMATCH!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!oleane!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!rain.fr!wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail From: "RATIA Gilles" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: First Virual Beekeeping Gallery in the World Date: 3 Oct 1997 08:48:58 GMT Organization: APISERVICES Lines: 70 Message-ID: <01bccfd9$b3fbae80$6b8ffcc1@toshiba> NNTP-Posting-Host: bdx2-107.abo.wanadoo.fr X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9880 The graphics have been improved and lightened. The site works in "mirroring" on the following two addresses: http://perso.wanadoo.fr/apiservices http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/apiservices Depending on where you are in the world when you make the connection, there is always one site which is faster than the other, try it for yourself... (soon there will only be one address : www.apiservices.com) A stream of information and its only a start... Apiservices' bilingual (French and English) site has become "The First Virtual Beekeeping Gallery in the World". A growing number of businesses, magazines, manufacturers, laboratories and services are already present in the gallery: Abeille & Cie (journal) Apiata (journal) Apidologie (journal) Apimondia (International Federation) Apisélixirs (health products) Apiservices (services, development) Association Européenne d'Apithérapie (health) Beekeeping & Development (journal) Biové (veterinary products) C.A.R.I. (association) CNEVA (laboratory for bee disease and analysis of hive products) Communicate Now (specialized beekeeping translations French/English/French) E.D.A.P.I (European Documentation in Apiculture for Press and Information) Leclercq (producer of CD ROMs for beekeeping) O.P.I.D.A. (journal, technical bulletins, posters, videos) R.F.A (journal) Swarm (veterinary products) Thomas (beekeeping equipment) In German, there is already Imkerei Technik (journal) In Portugese O'Apicultor (journal) These will soon joined by wholesalers and bee enterprises selling by mail order. The site will also contain a calendar of coming international events. We would be grateful for your participation in keeping this calendar up to date. We are setting up descriptive files by country (one of the two addresses + /country.htm). For this, we also need your participation. A good example of the sort of information required can be seen in the files on Argentina (one of the two addresses + /argentin.htm) or Vietnam (one of the two addresses + /vietnam.htm). We are open to all constructive remarks, suggestions or projects. Thanks. (\ {III8< (/ Ratia Gilles International Beekeeping Consultant APISERVICES "Le Terrier" F-24420 Coulaures - France Phone : (+33) 5 53 05 91 13 Mobile : (+33) 6 07 68 49 39 Fax : (+33) 5 53 04 44 57 Email : apiservices@compuserve.com URL 1 : http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/apiservices URL 2 : http://perso.wanadoo.fr/apiservices First Virtual Beekeeping Gallery in the World Article 9881 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!4.1.16.34.MISMATCH!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.nacamar.de!oleane!news-raspail.gip.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!rain.fr!wanadoo.fr!not-for-mail From: "RATIA Gilles" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Premiere Galerie Virtuelle Apicole au Monde Date: 3 Oct 1997 08:49:49 GMT Organization: APISERVICES Lines: 71 Message-ID: <01bccfd9$d1f0bfc0$6b8ffcc1@toshiba> NNTP-Posting-Host: bdx2-107.abo.wanadoo.fr X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9881 Le graphisme s'est ameliore et allege. Le site travaille en "mirroring" sur deux adresses : http://perso.wanadoo.fr/apiservices http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/apiservices Suivant ou l'on se trouve dans le monde et aussi l'heure de connexion, il y a toujours un site plus rapide que l'autre, essayez ! (bientôt il y aura une seule adresse : www.apiservices.com) Un flot d'informations et cela n'est qu'un debut ! Le site d'Apiservices bilingue (français & anglais) est ainsi devenu la "Premiere Galerie Virtuelle Apicole au Monde". Un nombre croissant d'associations, de revues, de fabricants, de laboratoires, de prestataires de services s'y font deja heberger : Abeille & Cie (journal) Apiata (journal) Apidologie (journal) Apimondia (Federation Internationale) Apiselixirs (produits sante) Apiservices (services, developpement) Association Europeenne d'Apitherapie Beekeeping & Development (journal) Biove (produits veterinaires) C.A.R.I. (association) CNEVA (laboratoire pathologies abeilles et analyses produits de la ruche) Communicate Now (traductions specialisees dans l'apiculture français/anglais/français) E.D.A.P.I (association europeenne de presse apicole) Leclercq (producteur de CD ROM apicoles) O.P.I.D.A. (journal, fiches techniques, posters, videos) R.F.A (journal) Swarm (produits veterinaires) Thomas (equipement apicole) En allemand, il y a deja Imkerei Technik (journal) et en portuguais O'Apicultor (journal). Il y aura aussi bientôt des negociants et des exploitations apicoles vendant par correspondance. Le site maintiendra aussi un calendrier des prochaines manifestations internationales. Nous avons besoin de votre concours. Des fiches signaletiques par pays se mettent en place (une des deux adresses ci-dessus + /pays.htm). Ici aussi nous avons besoin de votre concours. Vous en avez une bonne illustrations avec les fiches d'argentine (une des deux adresses ci-dessus + /argentin.htm) ou du Viet-nam (une des deux adresses ci-dessus + /vietnam.htm,) par exemple. Toutes remarques constructives, suggestions ou projets seront les bienvenues. Merci. (\ {(((O8< (/ Ratia Gilles Consultant Apicole International APISERVICES Groupe de Recherche et d'Assistance dans la Cooperation Apicole "Le Terrier" 24420 Coulaures - France Telephone : 05 53 05 91 13 (ou +33 5 53 05 91 13 depuis l'etranger) Mobile : 06.07.68.49.39 (ou +33 6 07 68 49 39 depuis l'etranger) Telecopie : 05 53 04 44 57 (ou +33 5 53 05 44 57 depuis l'etranger) Email : apiservices@compuserve.com URL 1 : http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/apiservices URL 2 : http://perso.wanadoo.fr/apiservices Premiere Galerie Virtuelle Apicole au Monde Article 9882 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!EU.net!sun4nl!193.78.240.11.MISMATCH!sun4nl!sci.kun.nl!not-for-mail From: John Doe Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Sorts of bees Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 13:23:38 +0200 Organization: Katholieke Universiteit Nijmegen Lines: 4 Message-ID: <3434D5BA.3B6C81FF@usa.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.174.242.36 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9882 How many sorts of bees are there? please email: jfaaerts@hotmail.com Article 9883 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <343578E9.487D2AEF@ione.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 18:59:54 -0400 From: Terry Chesnut X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.02 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: free for all Teachers Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------286DE2BD716B1FCC54EAD050" NNTP-Posting-Host: 03.ione.net Lines: 38 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!205.184.221.41!news.cinetwork.com!03.ione.net Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9883 --------------286DE2BD716B1FCC54EAD050 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit This site contains share ware, tips, real time chat no updating or scrolling, a board to post resumes, a jobs board for schools to post openings, historical documents, and a huge collection of links sorted by subject. 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Sorry about the typo in the previous message. --------------286DE2BD716B1FCC54EAD050-- Article 9884 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!logbridge.uoregon.edu!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!nntp1.crl.com!nnrp2.crl.com!not-for-mail From: Bryan Ness Newsgroups: alt.agriculture,alt.agriculture.misc,alt.agriculture.fruit,sci.agriculture,sci.agriculture.beekeeping,sci.agriculture.fruit Subject: Birds, Bees and Pollen Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 17:49:51 -0700 Organization: The Mining Company Lines: 15 Message-ID: <343592AF.9CD95D@miningco.com> Reply-To: botany.guide@miningco.com NNTP-Posting-Host: pm1-242.puc.edu Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; I) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu alt.agriculture:692 alt.agriculture.misc:8821 alt.agriculture.fruit:6717 sci.agriculture:21576 sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9884 sci.agriculture.fruit:1192 Read a new article at The Botany Site, "Birds, Bees and Pollen," which tells all about how plants get birds, bees and other insects to distribute their pollen for them. Links to books and other sites on pollination can also be found at the end of the article. Get there by going to the following URL: http://botany.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa100197.htm Check out the rest of The Botany Site to find other good articles and links to other botany resources. The site has just recently undergone a minor face lift. -- ______________________________________________________________ Bryan Ness, Botany Guide http://botany.miningco.com/ botany.guide@miningco.com Article 9885 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!139.130.235.93!news.telstra.net!loomi.telstra.net!brian.telstra.net!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail From: frank Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Dead Queen. Date: 4 Oct 1997 04:06:28 GMT Organization: The Internet Group Ltd Lines: 4 Message-ID: <614fc4$pqn$1@newsource.ihug.co.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: p45-max5.auck.ihug.co.nz Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9885 Hi y'all, I am a one-season beekeeper in NZ, with 5 hives. Spring is just beginning here, and I took the opportunity to inspect my hives yesterday. Two of my hives I overwintered, the other 3 are early swarms I hived Article 9886 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!4.1.16.34.MISMATCH!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-peer-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!news.west.agis.net!agis!198.207.169.10.MISMATCH!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wildbee!andy.nachbaur From: andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: BK-Economics 1.2 Date: Sat, 4 Oct 1997 04:32:00 GMT Message-ID: <9710032133562672@beenet.com> Organization: WILD BEE'S BBS (209) 826-8107 LOS BANOS, CA Distribution: world References: <5hms7h$dq9@nntp.pe.net> Lines: 39 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9886 http://gears.tucson.ars.ag.gov/soft/bke/index.html New Release: BK-Economics 1.2 For Windows and Macintosh About the Software (ARS REVIEW) BK-Economics is a software package that was developed by a team of scientists at the Carl Hayden Bee Research Center in Tucson, Arizona to assist commercial beekeepers in streamlining their business practices. This software allows bee keepers to simulate years of business, taking into account factors like equipme nt purchases, labor force, transportation, marketing strategies, loans, honey flow, and other hive products without taking the usual risks. This software, when used in combination with the marketing strategy information in publication, can help beekeepers formulate a successful business plan when making financial decisions, expanding an operation or just starting out. To obtain a copy of this software, please LOG ON and read the sections pertaining to the type of computer and operating systems software that you have. Log on to the site above and Click on the appropriate "Mail Me" button for ordering instructions. *The GOOD NEWS Your tax money has been at work and you are not expected to pay double for this program.* Andy- This software is a product of USDA research and is offered AT NO COST to anyone. 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Log on and order your copy via e-mail or use the snail mail address given at the site. --- þ QMPro 1.53 þ http://194.112.46.22/public/default.htm (Amigabee BBS) Article 9887 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!198.82.160.249!solaris.cc.vt.edu!vtaix.cc.vt.edu!adamf From: adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Premiere Galerie Virtuelle Apicole au Monde Date: 4 Oct 1997 11:19:52 GMT Organization: Virginia Tech Lines: 20 Message-ID: <6158oo$g05$1@solaris.cc.vt.edu> References: <01bccfd9$d1f0bfc0$6b8ffcc1@toshiba> NNTP-Posting-Host: vtaix.cc.vt.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9887 In article <01bccfd9$d1f0bfc0$6b8ffcc1@toshiba>, RATIA Gilles wrote: >Toutes remarques constructives, suggestions ou projets seront les >bienvenues. Merci. >Ratia Gilles >Consultant Apicole International Welcome to Usenet: the langua franca here is English. Is there any way for you to translate? Adam -- _________________ Adam Finkelstein adamf@vtaix.cc.vt.edu http://sunsite.unc.edu/bees/adamf Article 9888 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!nntp.pn.com!main.Germany.EU.net!main.de.uu.net!news-reader.Dortmund.Germany.EU.net!news-reader.dortmund.de.uu.net!not-for-mail From: "M@rkus" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Help, a woodpecker on the beeshives Date: 4 Oct 1997 14:14:30 GMT Organization: Customer of UUNET Germany; Info: info@de.uu.net Lines: 13 Message-ID: <01bcd0d5$5f312900$LocalHost@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: 193.155.171.146 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1160 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9888 Hi beekeeper I have a trouble: What can to become one make to a woodpecker from the Beeshives aweigh? I do hope their can me help, I have on this whitely last year five Beeshives lost. many thanks for your news Article 9889 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed4.bbnplanet.com!cpk-news-feed1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.iquest.net!not-for-mail From: Michael Constant Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Want to start hive Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 14:08:23 -0500 Organization: IQuest Internet, Inc. Lines: 3 Message-ID: <34369427.7060@iquest.net> Reply-To: mconstan@iquest.net NNTP-Posting-Host: and-002-1.iquest.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.03Gold (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9889 Are there any grants to start bee hives. I also want some names of bee suppliers. I was also wondering if it was to late to start a hive in Indiana. Article 9890 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!Supernews60!supernews.com!Supernews69!not-for-mail From: tomas mozer Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Florida Bee Conditions Sept 97 Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 11:34:59 -0700 Organization: All USENET -- http://www.Supernews.com Lines: 18 Message-ID: <34368C53.16CA@worldnet.att.net> References: <333956AA.7474@iet.hist.no> <5ha4eo$es@news.paonline.com> <9710021909102670@beenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 8920@205.216.79.28 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.02E-BSNET (Win16; U) To: Andy Nachbaur Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9890 Andy Nachbaur wrote: > FLORIDA HONEY REPORT FOR SEPTEMBER 1997 > Quite a number of bees have been lost due to the varroa mites. It > appears the mites have become resistant to the treatment beekeepers > have been using. Bees that are not affected by the mite are in good > condition. andy, what's the source of this report?...could this be the first case of confirmable varroa mite (chemical) resistance in north america, and resistance to which treatments? I have seen unofficial annecdotal reports of such resistance to apistan/fluvalinate from florida,u.s.a. and b.c.,canada on this, the 10th year of permittable use (at least in florida)...but am not aware of any bees not affected by the mite, just variable efficacies of different treatments. any further info would bee appreciated, as well as other reports of recent experiences with varroa and treatment results, or lack thereof. thanks in advance, tomas in fla. Article 9891 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!news.voicenet.com!newshost.cyberramp.net!not-for-mail From: D Duperault Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: do you want my bees? Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 17:37:41 -0700 Organization: posted via: CyberRamp.net, Dallas, TX (214) 343-3333/(817) 461-8484 for info Lines: 14 Message-ID: <3436E155.4AF7@spamfree.not> Reply-To: dduperault@spamfree.not NNTP-Posting-Host: angel.redsword.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.02Gold (Win16; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9891 Hi, I'm in the north Dallas area and have just figured out we have bees living in our attic. I'd rather not have them sprayed if somebody local knows how to coax them out of the siding. They seem to have a fairly active nest up there, and have probably been in residence since this spring. Dawn -- Batgirl was a Librarian, too! http://www.he.net/~dduperal/ anti-spam reply: dduperault (at) aol.com Article 9892 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!198.207.169.10!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wildbee!andy.nachbaur From: andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Florida Bee Conditions Sept 97 Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 01:50:00 GMT Message-ID: <9710041902012673@beenet.com> Organization: WILD BEE'S BBS (209) 826-8107 LOS BANOS, CA Distribution: world Lines: 92 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9892 TM>From: tomas mozer >Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 11:34:59 -0700 >Subject: Re: Florida Bee Conditions Sept 97 TM>Andy Nachbaur wrote: >> FLORIDA HONEY REPORT FOR SEPTEMBER 1997 >> Quite a number of bees have been lost due to the varroa mites. It >> appears the mites have become resistant to the treatment beekeepers >> have been using. Bees that are not affected by the mite are in good >> condition. TM>andy, what's the source of this report?.. Not sure but would guess someone in the Fl. Dept. of Agriculture, like a state bee inspector. I get it from the United States Department of Agriculture, Agricultural Marketing Service. >could this be the first case of confirmable varroa mite (chemical) >resistance in north america, and resistance to which treatments? > I have seen unofficial annecdotal reports of such resistance to >apistan/fluvalinate from florida,u.s.a. and b.c.,canada on this, the 10th >year of permittable use (at least in florida)...but am not aware of any >bees not affected by the mite, just variable efficacies of different >treatments. > any further info would bee appreciated, as well as other reports of >recent experiences with varroa and treatment results, or lack thereof. >thanks in advance, tomas in fla. Hi Tomas, First there are more reports of beekeepers and researchers not finding any Varroa in untreated hives that had Varroa last season then reports of strip failure. Most would not know one way or the other without some extra testing for Varroa. The USDA bee people from the TEXAS Bee Lab have been working in Florida and should have by now finished some testing of different chemicals and strips on Varroa. I can not tell you what they found out until they publish the report, (if they ever do that), but for sure there may be little concern about chemical resistance but a whole lot of concern about product efficiency if what they find is consistent with what others have reported for many years. This is not the first time testing and concern over the only approved product for Varroa control in the USA has been voiced. After testing a few years ago in Washington state that demonstrated problems with the dosage in the approved product it was then clear that a problem existed. It is clear what beekeepers are buying now is not the product approved and pushed originally by our government bee regulatory and so called bee scientists for Varroa control. Also I believe the quality of the product may have been and may be less then acceptable by any farm chemical standards now in use and more then likely a violation of the laws pertaining to registration of farm chemicals which do include some expectations of efficiency as originally claimed by registrants. You see once a product is registered no one in the chemical regulatory industry bothers to check to see if what is sold to the end user is what was registered. All after registration regulatory effort is put in making sure the end user jumps through all regulatory bureaucratic hoops which generate nothing but paper of no useful worldly value to any living person until it can be recycled years from now. The facts are that any testing for resistance is less then useless without testing to determine what is being tested is indeed the same in all tests and every indication has been for several years that it is not. This allows for the mixed antidotal reports from end users and other reports of resistance could be based on a faulty chemical product. I can not say much more then what I have said before, watch out buying a pig in the poke from any chemical company as their advertising budget quickly soon is greater then their product production budget and it buys them respect with those in the bee regulatory-science industry and bee supply industry that are relied on by beekeepers for good information, honest or not, and the normal is that they have nothing to lose but sales if it all blows up unless enough evidence can be gathered to prove wrong doing which they know for all practicality they are immune from because of the size and nature of the fractured bee industry. With only one product approved for use we are being held hostage to one chemical and it is sad that after having our pockets picked we may be getting a defective one. IMHO ttul Andy- (c) Permission is granted to freely copy this document in any form, or to print for any use. (w)Opinions are not necessarily facts. Use at own risk. --- þ QMPro 1.53 þ ... It had need to bee Article 9893 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!206.229.87.25!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-sea-19.sprintlink.net!news-in-west.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!198.207.169.10!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wildbee!andy.nachbaur From: andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Florida Bee Conditions Sept 97 Date: Sun, 5 Oct 1997 01:53:00 GMT Message-ID: <9710041902012674@beenet.com> Organization: WILD BEE'S BBS (209) 826-8107 LOS BANOS, CA Distribution: world Lines: 87 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9893 TM>From: tomas mozer >Date: Sat, 04 Oct 1997 11:34:59 -0700 >Subject: Re: Florida Bee Conditions Sept 97 TM>Andy Nachbaur wrote: >> FLORIDA HONEY REPORT FOR SEPTEMBER 1997 >> Quite a number of bees have been lost due to the varroa mites. It >> appears the mites have become resistant to the treatment beekeepers >> have been using. Bees that are not affected by the mite are in good >> condition. TM>andy, what's the source of this report?.. Not sure but would guess someone in the Fl. Dept. of Agriculture, like a state bee inspector. I get it from the United States Department of Agriculture, Agricultural Marketing Service. >could this be the first case of confirmable varroa mite (chemical) >resistance in north america, and resistance to which treatments? > I have seen unofficial annecdotal reports of such resistance to >apistan/fluvalinate from florida,u.s.a. and b.c.,canada on this, the 10th >year of permittable use (at least in florida)...but am not aware of any >bees not affected by the mite, just variable efficacies of different >treatments. > any further info would bee appreciated, as well as other reports of >recent experiences with varroa and treatment results, or lack thereof. >thanks in advance, tomas in fla. Hi Tomas, First there are more reports of beekeepers and researchers not finding any Varroa in untreated hives that had Varroa last season then reports of strip failure. Most would not know one way or the other without some extra testing for Varroa. The USDA bee people from the TEXAS Bee Lab have been working in Florida and should have by now finished some testing of different chemicals and strips on Varroa. I can not tell you what they found out until they publish the report, (if they ever do that), but for sure there may be little concern about chemical resistance but a whole lot of concern about product efficiency if what they find is consistent with what others have reported for many years. This is not the first time testing and concern over the only approved product for Varroa control in the USA has been voiced. After testing a few years ago in Washington state that demonstrated problems with the dosage in the approved product it was then clear that a problem existed. It is clear what beekeepers are buying now is not the product approved and pushed originally by our government bee regulatory and so called bee scientists for Varroa control. Also I believe the quality of the product may have been and may be less then acceptable by any farm chemical standards now in use and more then likely a violation of the laws pertaining to registration of farm chemicals which do include some expectations of efficiency as originally claimed by registrants. You see once a product is registered no one in the chemical regulatory industry bothers to check to see if what is sold to the end user is what was registered. All after registration regulatory effort is put in making sure the end user jumps through all regulatory bureaucratic hoops which generate nothing but paper of no useful worldly value to any living person until it can be recycled years from now. The facts are that any testing for resistance is less then useless without testing to determine what is being tested is indeed the same in all tests and every indication has been for several years that it is not. This allows for the mixed antidotal reports from end users and other reports of resistance could be based on a faulty chemical product. I can not say much more then what I have said before, watch out buying a pig in the poke from any chemical company as their advertising budget quickly soon is greater then their product production budget and it buys them respect with those in the bee regulatory-science industry and bee supply industry that are relied on by beekeepers for good information, honest or not, and the normal is that they have nothing to lose but sales if it all blows up unless enough evidence can be gathered to prove wrong doing which they know for all practicality they are immune from because of the size and nature of the fractured bee industry. With only one product approved for use we are being held hostage to one chemical and it is sad that after having our pockets picked we may be getting a defective one. IMHO ttul Andy- --- þ QMPro 1.53 þ "Where there is honey, there are beekeepers" Article 9894 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!205.139.56.103!news.pe.net!ns From: amschelp@pe.net (Peter Amschel) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Supers Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 03:01:24 GMT Organization: PE.net - Internet access from the Press-Enterprise Company Lines: 12 Message-ID: <616vtt$rer$2@nntp.pe.net> References: <34302FCA.32CD@erols.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: hem01ppp29.pe.net X-Newsreader: News Xpress 2.01 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9894 In article <34302FCA.32CD@erols.com>, rjlash@erols.com wrote: >Hi > My dad and I put together a brood chamber which is the one I have. >We made it out of exterior ply wood.Since we could not find any cypress >distributiters in the area. Is there any problems with ply wood has wood >for the supers? > Adam Lash Sure, Pal, exterior plywood is fine. I know a beekeeper who prides himself on making hives out of any available scrap wood. Top Bar Hive beekeepers will often even use stuff that is not wood at all for their bee hives. Article 9895 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!139.130.235.93!news.telstra.net!loomi.telstra.net!brian.telstra.net!ihug.co.nz!not-for-mail From: fbates@ihug.co.nz (bates) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: queen problem Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 04:33:57 GMT Organization: The Internet Group Ltd Lines: 27 Message-ID: <617jkd$1l2$1@newsource.ihug.co.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: p41-max22.auck.ihug.co.nz X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.0.82 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9895 Hi, I am an inexperienced (1 season) beekeeper in NZ, with 2 hives that have overwintered and 3 hives containing swarms that I have collected since early Sept. We are in early spring here, and I took the opportunity a couple of days ago to inspect the hives. All looked well, one of the swarms had lots of brood, the other 2 swarms are drawing combs nicely, the 2 overwintered hives still had some stores, and seem to be building up well. A couple of hours after I had finished I noticed a small group of bees on the ground between two of the hives, when I looked a little closer I discovered they were clustered on a queen, who appeared to be barely alive. Not knowing what to do, I put her on the landing board of the hive I thought she had most likely come out of, but the guards attacked her immediately and killed her. A few questions: What should I have done? Will it become obvious from the behaviour of the bees which hive is now queenless, or will I need to wait a couple of weeks & re-inspect the hives to ascertain this? I am fairly sure the queen came from one of two colonies which have plenty of brood in all stages, can I just let the colony raise their own queen to replace the dead one? By collecting swarms, will I end up with colonies that are more prone to swarming behaviour? Any help will be much appreciated. Cheers fbates@ihug.co.nz Article 9896 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey02.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: wvapiaries@aol.com (WVApiaries) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Help, a woodpecker on the beeshives Date: 5 Oct 1997 10:49:18 GMT Lines: 7 Message-ID: <19971005104901.GAA28050@ladder02.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder02.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com References: <01bcd0d5$5f312900$LocalHost@default> Organization: AOL, http://www.aol.co.uk X-Newsreader: AOL Offline Reader Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9896 Hi Try treating your hives in winter or when the bees aren't flying with creosote as this tastes pretty awful to the birds. I have heard of things having got that bad that beekeepers have made an outer box to go round the hive and treated that with old engine oil ( air the oiled boxes well before the honey flow though) Or just put chicken wire round the hives. Hope this has helped we loose a lot of hives to woodpeckers. Article 9897 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!rutgers!usenet.logical.net!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!feed1.news.erols.com!winter.news.erols.com!news From: Ed & Joy Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Supers Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 07:35:02 -0400 Organization: Erol's Internet Services Lines: 7 Message-ID: <34377B66.94A@erols.com> References: <34302FCA.32CD@erols.com> <616vtt$rer$2@nntp.pe.net> Reply-To: edbee@erols.com NNTP-Posting-Host: smt-as1s58.erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Received-On: 5 Oct 1997 11:38:03 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9897 Top Bar Hive beekeepers will > often even use stuff that is not wood at all for their bee hives. I,ve seen an article where hives were made out of concrete! Ed Article 9898 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!tor-nx1.netcom.ca!scanner.worldgate.com!news.insinc.net!ocean.netrover.com!news From: hummer@netrover.com Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: how do i get rid of bees? Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 18:59:08 GMT Organization: Netrover Lines: 1 Message-ID: <3437e343.404687@news.netrover.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ott1-93.netrover.com X-Newsreader: Forte Free Agent 1.11/16.235 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9898 I have a bees nest under my porch. how would i get rid of it? Article 9899 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.pbi.net!news.pacbell.net!not-for-mail From: Michael Henry Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Diminishing Bee Populations: Myth of Fact? Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 10:47:15 -0700 Organization: Pacific Bell Internet Services Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3437D2A3.2BD9B505@pacbell.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp-206-170-3-64.okld03.pacbell.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.01 [en] (Win95; U) X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9899 Hi - The other evening while driving I found myself listening to a late night AM talk show host and he shoked me by telling us that the current world honeybee population was down by 85%. If it matters I believe he said honeybee - but I know he said bee. I had heard that we have lowered populations with increased pesticide use and ruining habaitats. But the figure of 85% was absolutely shocking. Do we really only have 15% of the bees we had 50 years ago? Does anyone know just what the figure is? I spent some time doing searches and the entomology sites I visited had no mention of this, which leads me to think that maybe his claim were the words of someone not so intimate with the truth. Can anyone please tell me what the approx number of bees is? And include urls to any sites that would verify. And if this is not the appropriate usegroup could someone please point me in the correct direction. Thanks in advance! /mh Article 9900 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: "Jack Griffes" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Sorts of bees Date: 5 Oct 1997 18:44:08 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 22 Message-ID: <01bcd1be$a2e77340$9b6ed9ce@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> References: <3434D5BA.3B6C81FF@usa.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: tol-oh6-27.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Oct 05 1:44:08 PM CDT 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9900 John Doe wrote in article <3434D5BA.3B6C81FF@usa.net>... | How many sorts of bees are there? | please email: jfaaerts@hotmail.com | there are claimed to be between 20,000 and 30,000 species of true bees in the world -- Jack Griffes Ottawa Lake, MI USA e-mail: Griffes at ix.netcom.com Web site: http://pw2.netcom.com/~griffes/ "Always be nice to other people, they outnumber you 5.5 billion to 1..." - Steve White! " Article 9901 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: "Jack Griffes" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Making Increase, "Yard Trashing" Date: 5 Oct 1997 18:53:26 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 38 Message-ID: <01bcd1bf$effb16e0$9b6ed9ce@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> References: <9709300726072652@beenet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: tol-oh6-27.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Oct 05 1:53:26 PM CDT 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9901 Andy Nachbaur wrote in article <9709300726072652@beenet.com>... | | *Stolen from the BEE-List FYI | How to make increase using medium depth supers | | From: George C Walker III | Date: Sat, 27 Sep 1997 17:22:21 EDT | Subject: "Yard Trashing" | | I borrow the term "yard trashing" from a beekeeper friend who has never | used the method but who read about it in a bee journal article a few | years back. I have not read the article nor talked to the originators of | the method but have used our version of it with success. Don't know if other articles about "yard trashing" have appeared lately in any of the bee journals but one such article appeared in Volume 136 No. 4; April 1996; American Bee Journal, pgs. 251 & 252 - written by yours truly, Jack Griffes - the original concept nor the name "yard trashing" did not originate here nor have I been able to track down the originator though I certainly would be interested in doing so IF that party is still amongst the living. -- Jack Griffes Ottawa Lake, MI USA e-mail: Griffes at ix.netcom.com Web site: http://pw2.netcom.com/~griffes/ "Always be nice to other people, they outnumber you 5.5 billion to 1..." - Steve White! " Article 9902 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.idt.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: "Jack Griffes" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Diminishing Bee Populations: Myth of Fact? Date: 5 Oct 1997 19:27:11 GMT Organization: Netcom Lines: 52 Message-ID: <01bcd1c4$a7013280$9b6ed9ce@Griffes1.ix.netcom.com> References: <3437D2A3.2BD9B505@pacbell.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: tol-oh6-27.ix.netcom.com X-NETCOM-Date: Sun Oct 05 2:27:11 PM CDT 1997 X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9902 Michael Henry wrote in article <3437D2A3.2BD9B505@pacbell.net>... | Hi - | The other evening while driving I found myself listening to a late night | AM talk show host and he shoked me by telling us that the current world | honeybee population was down by 85%. If it matters I believe he said | honeybee - but I know he said bee. to be even more specific within the species of honeybees it is the species Apis mellifera (the common honeybee) alone that is having particularly difficult times at present - due primarily to parasitic mites and the diseases they vector or catalyze | I had heard that we have lowered populations with increased pesticide | use and ruining habaitats. these things certainly play a part - perhaps Pollinator (Dave Green) will address them more fully But the figure of 85% was absolutely | shocking. Do we really only have 15% of the bees we had 50 years ago? good question - don't know about the exact figures but the feral population here in MI where it was once VERY abundant is now at near zero as far as actually "surviving for two or more years" feral colonies go - in pre-mite days the feral honeybees pollinated 50% of the pickles (MSU study) and nowadays some growers report "not a bee in the whole field" if they fail to rent bees for pollination - so whether the exact figures are correct or a bit inflated I cannot say but I can tell you the loss of feral colonies and the reduction in beekeepers has had and is having its effect on pollination in MI -- Jack Griffes Ottawa Lake, MI USA e-mail: Griffes at ix.netcom.com Web site: http://pw2.netcom.com/~griffes/ "Always be nice to other people, they outnumber you 5.5 billion to 1..." - Steve White! " Article 9903 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.direct.ca!iagnet.net!robin.theramp.net!not-for-mail From: Barry Birkey Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Diminishing Bee Populations: Myth of Fact? Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 16:03:35 +0000 Organization: BIRKEY.COM Lines: 22 Message-ID: <3437BA56.4CE@birkey.com> References: <3437D2A3.2BD9B505@pacbell.net> Reply-To: barry@birkey.com NNTP-Posting-Host: nap-ip-106.theramp.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9903 Michael Henry wrote: > > Hi - > The other evening while driving I found myself listening to a late night > AM talk show host and he shoked me by telling us that the current world > honeybee population was down by 85%. If it matters I believe he said > honeybee - but I know he said bee. I find this to be very fallacious. To group even all honeybees into a grand number like that is pretty bold on the reporters end. Surely they must be referring to only the feral population as beekeeping is on the rise. Andy must have some info to back this up I'll bet. -Barry -- Barry Birkey West Chicago, Illinois USA barry@birkey.com http://www.birkey.com Article 9904 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!not-for-mail From: bill greenrose Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: NH Beekeeping Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 19:37:35 -0400 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Lines: 40 Message-ID: <343824BE.6040CC20@valley.net> References: <3433FAD1.83523884@spam.sunspot.tiac.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: v2-p-117.valley.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9904 hi brian. i've sent you the name, address and phone number of the secretary of the new hampshire beekeeper's association via email. bill ######################################## don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 Brian Boerner wrote: > Does anyone have any contacts for the NH Beekeeping Association. I was > speaking with someone in Merrimack NH, but I lost his phone number. > I have also, unfortunately, forgotten his name as well. I am interested > in going out and finding out about beekeeping and perhaps helping > someone prepare for the winter. I would also like to start up in the > spring. > > Please send me some email, at the address: > bboerner@spam.sunspot.tiac.net and just remove the work spam. > > Dont want all those harvest bots to put me on thier junk lists > > :) > > Anyways, if someone could please help me out, I would greatly appreciate > it. > > Regards, > Brian Article 9905 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!192.48.96.125!in3.uu.net!munnari.OZ.AU!bunyip.cc.uq.edu.au!not-for-mail From: "John Swift" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Another Beekeeping Short Course! Date: 6 Oct 1997 01:23:44 GMT Organization: University of Queensland Lines: 18 Message-ID: <01bcd1f6$b9143300$1a516682@uqgpapc14.uqg.uq.edu.au> NNTP-Posting-Host: uqgpapc14.uqg.uq.edu.au X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1155 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9905 The University OF Queensland Apiary Section is offering a Beekeeping Short Course Sat. Dec.6 to Mon. Dec 8 Cost $380.00 Fee includes Tuition, Accommodation, Meals , Field Trip & Social Evening. Course Content: Queen Bee Rearing & Introduction Hive Equipment Hive Disease Diagnosis & Control Seasonal Management Flora Handling Equipment Crop Pollination Contact Business Ideas & Training Services The University of Queensland Gatton College Qld. 4345 Article 9906 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!winter.news.erols.com!news From: Ronald Lash Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Beginner Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 20:08:23 -0400 Organization: Hi-View Aerial Photography Lines: 6 Message-ID: <34382BF7.3C90@erols.com> Reply-To: rjlash@erols.com NNTP-Posting-Host: lxp-as1s38.erols.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Received-On: 6 Oct 1997 01:23:42 GMT X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01Gold (Win95; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9906 Hi I have just started working on the hive about 3 weeks ago and the hives biuld quickly. My family has had a few hives a couple years ago. So we still had some stuff left over. Adam Lash Article 9907 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Message-ID: <343845CB.B52CBDF4@nni.com> Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 21:58:35 -0400 From: Groucho X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: various books and publications for sale Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NNTP-Posting-Host: ascend156.nni.com Lines: 30 Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!digex!news2.digex.net!digex!news1.digex.net!news.nni.com!ascend156.nni.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9907 My grandfather is a former secretary for the PA Beekeeping Association. He has asked me to post a list of books and publications which he wishes to sell. If this is not the correct forum for such things, kindly e-mail me at grouch@nni.com with a better place to post. Anyway, here's the list he sent me: Gleanings in Bee Culture - years 1893, 1895, 1897, 1898, 1899, 1902, 1907, 1910. The Hive and the HoneyBee - copyright 1946, Dadant & Sons The Life of the Bee - Maurice Link, 1917 Fifty Years Among the Bees - Dr. C.C. Miller 1915 Better Queens - Jay Smith, 1949 Practical Queen Rearing - Frnak C. Pellot, 1918 The Irsish (sic) Bee Guide - J. D. Digges, 1904 He also has a large collection of monthly Bee Journals available. Please e-mail me if you are interested in any of these publications, and I will see to it he receives your info. Better living through beekeeping! Thanks, Groucho@nni.com Article 9908 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!europa.clark.net!208.134.241.18!newsfeed.internetmci.com!199.0.154.56!ais.net!iagnet.net!robin.theramp.net!not-for-mail From: Barry Birkey Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Want to start hive Date: Sun, 05 Oct 1997 22:17:09 +0000 Organization: BIRKEY.COM Lines: 16 Message-ID: <343811E4.69C2@birkey.com> References: <34369427.7060@iquest.net> Reply-To: barry@birkey.com NNTP-Posting-Host: nap-ip-141.theramp.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (Macintosh; I; 68K) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9908 Michael Constant wrote: > > Are there any grants to start bee hives. I also want some names of bee > suppliers. I was also wondering if it was to late to start a hive in > Indiana. I will go ahead and grant you to get started but wait till next spring as it's too late for this year in Indiana. Suppliers can be found at: http://www.birkey.com/BLB/Beekeeping/besuply.html and I can recommend Dadant as a good starting point. -- Barry Birkey West Chicago, Illinois USA barry@birkey.com http://www.birkey.com Article 9909 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!207.51.24.226!news.ispn.net!not-for-mail From: "greek" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: help wanted Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 00:21:50 -0500 Organization: Internet Services Provider Network Lines: 13 Message-ID: <619rs9$o1s$1@news.ispn.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: srt-149.dialup.ndak.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 4.71.1008.3 X-MimeOle: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE Engine V4.71.1008.3 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9909 Experienced beekeeper, needed for full time employment with migratory beekeeping operation. (ND-TX) Job involves all aspects of large migratory operation. queen raising, nuc making, northern care, supering, honeying pulling, extracting) contact dcollins@intrastar.net Article 9910 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!4.1.16.34.MISMATCH!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!howland.erols.net!cs.utexas.edu!utnut!torn!nott!bcarh189.bnr.ca!bmerhc5e.bnr.ca!bcrkh13.bnr.ca!news From: Adrian Kyte Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: electronic beekeeping dictionary Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 11:27:57 +0100 Organization: Bell Northern Research Lines: 20 Message-ID: <3438BD2D.1EC2@europem01.nt.com> References: <875846067@amigabee.org.uk> Reply-To: ask01.delete_this@europem01.nt.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.38.141.198 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9910 Hugo Veerkamp wrote: > > Introducing the Bee Pages electronic DICTIONARY OF BEEKEEPING TERMS large snip > A free demonstration version of the program has been placed on our website at > http://www.inter.nl.net/hcc/beenet/beedic. > Unforseen circumstances have delayed the project somewhat, but we hope to smaller snip My server reports that it can't contact server "www.inter.nl.net", is this the correct address? -- Regards Adrian :-{)} South Devon, England Any statements made or opinions expressed are my own and not my employers. ask01.delete_this@europem01.nt.com [work] beeman.delete_this@enterprise.net [home] Article 9911 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!titan.oit.unc.edu!usenet From: adamf@titan.oit.unc.edu (Adam Finkelstein) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bee Book FAQ #1 Date: 6 Oct 1997 10:57:20 -0400 Organization: SunSITE UNC-CH Lines: 153 Message-ID: <61au8g$7vs@titan.oit.unc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: titan.oit.unc.edu Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9911 The Beekeeping Book Faq A short list of beekeeping and beekeeping related books. Contributions from sci.agriculture.beekeeping, bee-l and from real life. Contributors names are not included--if you want to know who suggested what book, e-mail me and I'll dig up the original e-mail I received. The books are listed by topic. This FAQ to be archived at The Internet Apiculture and Beekeeping Archive, posted to sci.agriculture.beekeeping and mailed to bee-l. Requests, comments, and queries can be sent to: adamf@sunsite.unc.edu *** Beginner Beekeeping Books: *** The best book for beginners is Richard Taylor's _HOW TO DO IT_. It is published by A.I.Root Company, Medina, Ohio 44256. For the beginner: _First_Lessons_in_Beekeeping_, Dadant Press. It's elementary, but covers all the bases that one needs to get started ( I think this one is confusing--Ed.) Walter Kelley's _How to Keep Bees and Sell Honey_. _The Beekeepers Handbook_, 1986, Sammmataro, D. and Avitable, Alphonse, New York, Macmillian, 1986. ISBN 0-02-081410-0. *** Practical Management Books *** (includes queen rearing, and comb honey production) _Beekeeping_ ...an Australian book, It was first published in Victoria, Australia, as _Beekeeping in Victoria_ , circa 1925. It has had a host of revisions since and has been expanded and revised. It is produced by the Agriculture Department. _HONEY BY THE TON_, by Oliver Field, of Berkshire, UK. Roger Morse and Ted Hooper's illustrated encyclopedia: _The Illustrated Encyclopedia of Beekeeping_. _The Art of Beekeeping_, William Hamilton (1945)Herald Printing Works. _Guide to Bees and Honey_, Ted Hooper, Rodale Press?? McGregor _Insect Pollination of Cultivated Crop Plants_. A basic reference book, needs to be updated, but still the best there is. _Almond Pollination Handbook_, Joe Traynor . Some very practical tips on maximizing pollination on most any crop. _Beekeeping - A complete Owner's Manual_ ,by Werner Melzer. Published by Barron's ISBN 0-8120-4089-9. _Hive Management - A seasonal Guide for Beekeepers"_ by Richard E. Bonney, published by Garden Way Publishing, ISBN 0-88266-637-1. _The Hive and the Honey Bee_ , Dadant, (this is the seminal Beekeeping and Honey Bee reference book, Ed.) _The A,B,C's and X,Y,Z's of Beekeeping_, A.I. Root. (most valuable as an antique) is: The Practical Bee Guide -- A Manual of Modern Beekeeping by The Rev. J. G. Digges, M.A. (Expert, and Member of the Examining Board, Irish Beekeepers Association Editor , "Irish Bee Journal".)Published in 1910 it is a masterpiece of English Literature. _Honey_in_the_Comb_ by E. Killion. The title is unfortunate because the book is good for all beekeepers whether they intend to make comb honey or not. _Contemporary_Queen_Rearing_, Harry Laidlaw. _Beekeeping at Buckfast Abbey_ Brother Adam. _Breeding The Honeybee_ Brother Adam. *** Honey Bee Biology *** _The Hive and the Honeybee_ Dadant. _The Biology of the Honeybee_, Mark Winston, ISBN 0-674-07409-2 _The Honey Bee_, Gould and Gould, ISBN 0-7167-5023-6 (out of print?) *** Anecdotal or Narrative Beekeeping Books *** _Bees Are My Business _ Harry Whitcomb. _Following the Bloom_ by Douglas Whynott/1991 Beacon Press . _Bees and Their Keepers_ by Richard Trump/Iowa State U. Press,Ames 1987. _Mastering_the_Art_of_Beekeeping_ and _The_Art_and_Adventure_of_Beekeeping_ Both by Ormand Aebi. _The Book of Bees_ , Sue Hubbel. For entertainment with a beekeeping slant Gene Stratton- Porter. 1925 Doubleday _A Keeper of Bees_ is a slightly moralistic little tale for any aged reader. _50 Years Among the Bees_, .C.C. Miller. _The Bee Hunter_, James Fenimore Cooper. *** Children's Beekeeping Books *** _BEES_, Gallimard Jeunesse, Ute Fuhr, and Raoul Sautai A First Discovery Book, Scholastic Inc. New York Toronto London Auckland Sydney. *** Bee and Hive Products *** _Super Formulas_ , Elain C. White (Honey and wax recipies). _Beeswax and Candlemaking_ , Richard Taylor. *** Information that's not Management Related *** _Archeology of Beekeeping_, Eva Crane. _ A Book of Honey_ , Eva Crane. _American Honey Plants_, Frank Pellet. Note: Since there are myriad beekeeping books and references, and this was the first attempt to list some of them, from citizens on the Internet, THERE WILL UNDOUBTEDLY BE SOME GOOD BOOKS LEFT OUT. If you want to suggest a book, e-mail adamf@sunsite.unc.edu and I'll include the book next time. Finding these books: I'd suggest the library first, then your nearest University library. If you have a *borrowed book* you can see if you really want to purchase it by reading it. If you still want to purchase it, having the actual book in front of you gives all the necessary information to a book retailer on how to order the book. Some will be out of print, but can still be found with luck /digging. As a last resort, post to sci.agriculture.beekeeping and maybe someone there will be able to help. Happy reading, Adam adamf@sunsite.unc.edu This FAQ, Copyright © Adam Finkelstein. All Rights Reserved. -- ___________________________________________________________________________ Adam Finkelstein Internet Apiculture and Beekeeping Archive adamf@sunsite.unc.edu http://www.sunsite.unc.edu/bees Article 9912 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!arachnid.Gsu.EDU!panther.Gsu.EDU!biojdsx From: James D Satterfield Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Supers Date: Mon, 6 Oct 1997 10:12:01 -0400 Organization: Georgia State University Lines: 32 Message-ID: References: <34302FCA.32CD@erols.com> <616vtt$rer$2@nntp.pe.net> <34377B66.94A@erols.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.96.1.18 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: arachnid.Gsu.EDU 876147131 258 (None) 131.96.1.18 X-Complaints-To: usenet@arachnid.Gsu.EDU To: Ed & Joy In-Reply-To: <34377B66.94A@erols.com> Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9912 The website http://www.gsu.edu/~biojdsx/main.htm has top bar hive information on it, and different types of construction materials are included in the FAQ's. Cordially yours, Jim James D. Satterfield Canton is about 40 mi/64 km 258 Ridge Pine Drive north of Atlanta, Georgia USA Canton GA 30114 USA 34.24N, 084.47W (770) 479-4784 Top Bar Hive Beekeeping Website: http://www.gsu.edu/~biojdsx/main.htm On Sun, 5 Oct 1997, Ed & Joy wrote: > Top Bar Hive beekeepers will > > often even use stuff that is not wood at all for their bee hives. > > > I,ve seen an article where hives were made out of concrete! > > Ed > > Article 9913 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news-peer.gsl.net!gsl-penn-ns.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.belnet.be!news.fundp.ac.be!mac-biochimie1.biocell.fundp.ac.be!user From: bmartin@biocell.fundp.ac.be (Benoit MARTIN) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: electronic beekeeping dictionary Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 21:17:24 +0100 Organization: F.U.N.D.P - Cellular Biochemistry Lines: 30 Message-ID: References: <875846067@amigabee.org.uk> <3438BD2D.1EC2@europem01.nt.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: mac-biochimie1.biocell.fundp.ac.be Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9913 In article (Dans l'article) <3438BD2D.1EC2@europem01.nt.com>, ask01.delete_this@europem01.nt.com wrote (écrivait) : > Hugo Veerkamp wrote: > > > > Introducing the Bee Pages electronic DICTIONARY OF BEEKEEPING TERMS > > large snip > > > A free demonstration version of the program has been placed on our website at > > http://www.inter.nl.net/hcc/beenet/beedic. > > Unforseen circumstances have delayed the project somewhat, but we hope to > > smaller snip > > My server reports that it can't contact server "www.inter.nl.net", is > this the correct address? I've got the same message. Benoit MARTIN -- Benoit MARTIN Laboratory of Cellular Biochemistry, Facultes Universitaires ND de la Paix, 61, rue de Bruxelles, B-5000 Namur (Belgium). Fax: ++/32/81/72.41.35. Email: bmartin@biocell.fundp.ac.be Article 9914 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!152.163.199.19!portc03.blue.aol.com!audrey01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail From: jkemp90@aol.com (JKemp90) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: NOVICE Date: 6 Oct 1997 20:29:08 GMT Lines: 2 Message-ID: <19971006202900.QAA14514@ladder01.news.aol.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ladder01.news.aol.com X-Admin: news@aol.com Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9914 Interested in starting a hive. There are two dozen hives on the property adjacent to my field. Would this present a problem? Article 9915 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!199.232.56.18!news.ultranet.com!not-for-mail From: Marc Andelman Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Royal Jelly Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 19:10:41 -0400 Organization: Biosource Lines: 7 Message-ID: <34396FF1.61F8@ultranet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d6.dial-6.wor.ma.ultra.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9915 My wife bought a can of honey that claims to have royal jelly in it. How can they make this claim? Can royal jelly be deliberately harvested like pollen? Does anyone know what royal jelly is and has it ever been isolated? Thanxm Marc Andelman Article 9916 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!4.1.16.34.MISMATCH!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-feed1.tiac.net!news.ultranet.com!not-for-mail From: Marc Andelman Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: African bees wanted Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 19:22:45 -0400 Organization: Biosource Lines: 6 Message-ID: <343972C5.50D8@ultranet.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: d6.dial-6.wor.ma.ultra.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 2.01 (Win95; U) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9916 I heard that African bees make more honey and are easily managed with the right equipment. Does anyone want to sent me a queen? Regards, Marc Andelman Article 9917 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.uoregon.edu!news.unisys.com.br!not-for-mail From: "Fabio de Almeida Lo Prete" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: I need a BEE PICTURE, PLEASE!! Date: 7 Oct 1997 01:02:41 GMT Organization: Macsys Informatica LTDA Lines: 13 Message-ID: <01bcd2c5$13c996e0$2404dcc8@default> NNTP-Posting-Host: riopm01p03.unisys.com.br X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1157 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9917 I' m from Brazil and need a bee picture. I'm doing a visual basic and access computer program and this bee picture will be my principal program simbol. The picture must be very beautiful. It doesn't need to be a real bee, it can be a cartoon bee . But the bee has to be whit a great smile in her face. To everybody who send me a litlle and beautiful bee thank you ! i'm Fabio Article 9918 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!not-for-mail From: bill greenrose Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: electronic beekeeping dictionary Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 21:01:03 -0400 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Lines: 36 Message-ID: <343989CF.BF7AA08B@valley.net> References: <875846067@amigabee.org.uk> <3438BD2D.1EC2@europem01.nt.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: kip-2-143.valley.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9918 Adrian Kyte wrote: > Hugo Veerkamp wrote: > > > > Introducing the Bee Pages electronic DICTIONARY OF BEEKEEPING TERMS > > large snip > > > A free demonstration version of the program has been placed on our website at > > http://www.inter.nl.net/hcc/beenet/beedic. > > Unforseen circumstances have delayed the project somewhat, but we hope to > > smaller snip > > My server reports that it can't contact server "www.inter.nl.net", is > this the correct address? > -- > Regards Adrian :-{)} South Devon, England > Any statements made or opinions expressed are my own and not my > employers. > ask01.delete_this@europem01.nt.com [work] > beeman.delete_this@enterprise.net [home] i was able to connect, but received a '404 error - file not found' message. bill ######################################## don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 Article 9919 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!205.252.116.205.MISMATCH!howland.erols.net!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-feed2.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.bu.edu!dartvax.dartmouth.edu!not-for-mail From: bill greenrose Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Bee Book FAQ #1 Date: Mon, 06 Oct 1997 21:12:29 -0400 Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, USA Lines: 44 Message-ID: <34398C7D.535E4DD6@valley.net> References: <61au8g$7vs@titan.oit.unc.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: kip-2-143.valley.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.03 [en] (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9919 Adam Finkelstein wrote: > The Beekeeping Book Faq > > A short list of beekeeping and beekeeping related books. Contributions > from sci.agriculture.beekeeping, bee-l and from real life. Contributors > names are not included--if you want to know who suggested what book, > e-mail me and I'll dig up the original e-mail I received. The books are > listed by topic. > [snip] > > I'd suggest the library first, then your nearest University library. If > you have a *borrowed book* you can see if you really want to purchase it by > reading it. If you still want to purchase it, having the actual book in > front of you gives all the necessary information to a book retailer on how > to order the book. Some will be out of print, but can still be found with > luck /digging. As a last resort, post to sci.agriculture.beekeeping and > maybe someone there will be able to help. > > Happy reading, > > Adam > > adamf@sunsite.unc.edu > This FAQ, Copyright © Adam Finkelstein. All Rights Reserved. > -- > ___________________________________________________________________________ > Adam Finkelstein Internet Apiculture and Beekeeping Archive > adamf@sunsite.unc.edu http://www.sunsite.unc.edu/bees thanks for the list, adam. great idea. i've emailed my suggestion to you. bill ######################################## don't shoot me, I'm only the guitar player greenros@medicalmedia.com [work] bill.greenrose@valley.net [home] http://www.geocities.com/Athens/1397 Article 9920 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!4.1.16.34.MISMATCH!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!News1.Ottawa.iSTAR.net!News.Toronto.iSTAR.net!news.istar.net!news1.istar.ca!not-for-mail From: billfern@istar.ca (bill fernihough) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: queen problem Date: 7 Oct 1997 02:39:17 GMT Organization: Your Organization Lines: 58 Message-ID: <61c7cl$7sf$1@news.istar.ca> References: <617jkd$1l2$1@newsource.ihug.co.nz> NNTP-Posting-Host: ts27-03.vcr.istar.ca Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Newsreader: WinVN 0.99.8 (x86 32bit) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9920 You will likely get lots of replies but here are my comments. First, good idea to check the hives once in awhile, but going inside should be avoided as much as possible. When you do intrude, be careful that the queen is not on the top of the hive, or on something you set on the ground. Appears she was this time, and you saw the result. If the queen was out of the hive, you could have taken the cover off the suspect hive, and see if the bees are disturbed. Usually when the queen leaves they get upset and act a bit different, make noise etc. If you had done this, you would have noted the absent queen hive almost immediately, but it does take some practice, and knowledge of the usual vs the unusual behaviour. So, hope that helps. Make sure both hives near where you found the queen have fresh eggs in them, or if they did when you conducted the inspections, you should be ok. Now, leave the hives alone. If you start lifting frames out, you may kill the queen that is being developed, and you will be worse off. Look in the hives after 30 days from the incident. If you see eggs in both, you are ok, and if you find them in the first frame you pull out, don't take out any more. Catching swarms is not an issue. Bees swarm when they are short of room and as a natural instinct. Refer to some good books for advice on this issue. Bees will normally swarm in the second year of the life of the queen, and if this is your second year for those other hives you mentioned, watch them for swarms. Not a lot you can do except catch the swarms. In article <617jkd$1l2$1@newsource.ihug.co.nz>, fbates@ihug.co.nz says... > >Hi, > I am an inexperienced (1 season) beekeeper in NZ, with 2 hives that >have overwintered and 3 hives containing swarms that I have collected >since early Sept. We are in early spring here, and I took the >opportunity a couple of days ago to inspect the hives. All looked >well, one of the swarms had lots of brood, the other 2 swarms are >drawing combs nicely, the 2 overwintered hives still had some stores, >and seem to be building up well. >A couple of hours after I had finished I noticed a small group of bees >on the ground between two of the hives, when I looked a little closer >I discovered they were clustered on a queen, who appeared to be barely >alive. Not knowing what to do, I put her on the landing board of the >hive I thought she had most likely come out of, but the guards >attacked her immediately and killed her. A few questions: > What should I have done? > Will it become obvious from the behaviour of the bees which hive is >now queenless, or will I need to wait a couple of weeks & re-inspect >the hives to ascertain this? > I am fairly sure the queen came from one of two colonies which have >plenty of brood in all stages, can I just let the colony raise their >own queen to replace the dead one? > By collecting swarms, will I end up with colonies that are more prone >to swarming behaviour? >Any help will be much appreciated. >Cheers >fbates@ihug.co.nz > Article 9921 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!news-pull.sprintlink.net!news-in-east.sprintlink.net!news.sprintlink.net!Sprint!198.207.169.10!holonet!colossus.holonet.net!wildbee!andy.nachbaur From: andy.nachbaur@beenet.com (Andy Nachbaur) Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Georgia-Mississippi Hive Conditions Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 04:09:00 GMT Message-ID: <9710062117502682@beenet.com> Organization: WILD BEE'S BBS (209) 826-8107 LOS BANOS, CA Distribution: world References: <334F05D0.712F@mgl.ca> Lines: 33 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9921 http://www.ams.usda.gov/mncs/mn%5Freports/tv%5Ffv193.txt TV FV193,YYJ THOMASVILLE, GA. OCTOBER 6, 1997 VERSTRATE - YAKIMA HONEY REPORT GEORGIA - Colonies around the state were from fair to good condition. Colony condition was highly dependent on beekeepers treatment for parasitic mites earlier in the year. There continues to be a dirth of any significant nectar source in south and middle Georgia. Some beekeepers were involved in supplemental feeding to compensate colonies with light stores. In the northern half of the state, fall floral sources such as aster and goldenrod were increasing colony strength and levels of stores. Commercial beekeepers around the state were beginning with their fall maintenance programs. MISSISSIPPI - Colonies around the state were generally in good condition. In the southern portions of the state, the majority of September noted a dirth of any significant nectar sources. Colonies were primarily feeding off reserves built up earlier in the summer. Towards the end of September, goldenrod was beginning to bloom. Beekeepers were hopeful their colonies will be able to increase their levels of stores during the goldenrod flow. In the central and northern portions of the state, goldenrod was blooming as well during late September. Earlier in the month there were fairly good flows from boneset and other wildflowers. During the month of October aster is expected to bloom and become a potential honey source. 1000e rd --- þ QMPro 1.53 þ http://gears.tucson.ars.ag.gov/beecam/beecam.html Article 9922 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!unc-cs!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!gatech!sdd.hp.com!hp-pcd.cv.hp.com!hplabs!hplntx!hplb!rsmith.hpl.hp.com!mdr From: mdr@hpl.hp.com (Malcolm Roe) Subject: Re: electronic beekeeping dictionary Sender: news@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Usenet News Administrator) Message-ID: Date: Tue, 7 Oct 1997 08:39:39 GMT References: <875846067@amigabee.org.uk> Nntp-Posting-Host: rsmith.hpl.hp.com Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, England X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.2 PL2] Lines: 12 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9922 Hugo Veerkamp (hugo.veerkamp@amigabee.org.uk) wrote: > Introducing the Bee Pages electronic DICTIONARY OF BEEKEEPING TERMS > > A free demonstration version of the program has been placed on our website at > http://www.inter.nl.net/hcc/beenet/beedic. The URL is actually: http://www.inter.nl.net/hcc/beenet/beedic.htm ^^^^ -- Malcolm Roe mdr@hplb.hpl.hp.com Article 9923 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!newsfeed.internetmci.com!199.0.154.56!ais.net!iagnet.net!198.87.88.26!news.altair.com!newshost.comco.com!news.tamu.edu!news.utdallas.edu!nrchh45.rich.nt.com!bcarh189.bnr.ca!bmerhc5e.bnr.ca!bcrkh13.bnr.ca!news From: Adrian Kyte Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Re: Royal Jelly Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 09:19:09 +0100 Organization: Bell Northern Research Lines: 18 Message-ID: <3439F07D.7442@europem01.nt.com> References: <34396FF1.61F8@ultranet.com> Reply-To: ask01.delete_this@europem01.nt.com NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.38.141.198 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0 (WinNT; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9923 Marc Andelman wrote: > > My wife bought a can of honey that claims to have royal jelly > in it. How can they make this claim? Can royal jelly > be deliberately harvested like pollen? Does anyone know > what royal jelly is and has it ever been isolated? > > Thanxm > Marc Andelman Royal Jelly can be harvested from brood frames with oung larva in. I don't know how it's done, it must be very labour intensive if done manually! -- Regards Adrian :-{)} South Devon, England Any statements made or opinions expressed are my own and not my employers. ask01.delete_this@europem01.nt.com [work] beeman.delete_this@enterprise.net [home] Article 9924 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!4.1.16.34.MISMATCH!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-feed.inet.tele.dk!news.inet.tele.dk!not-for-mail From: "Jørn Johanesson" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Pollen grain database /beeplant flora Date: 7 Oct 1997 08:10:09 GMT Organization: EDBi Lines: 49 Message-ID: <01bcd2f7$e8f29ba0$0100007f@jornjoha> NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp22.rd.tele.dk X-Trace: news.inet.tele.dk 876211809 55096 (None) 194.239.161.22 X-Complaints-To: abuse@news.inet.tele.dk X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1157 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9924 I have now prepared this for download from http://www.wn.com.au/apimo the software is free software but I will ask you to register it because I am curious about the interest. The pollen database has been developed with help from a lot of people and I have to give a big 'Thank You'. Especially to the members of BeeNet with special thanks to John White, England for the excellent pollen helpfile, to Dr. Malcolm T. Stanford for the pollen pictures from Florida and to Durk Ellison for the tremendous work he has put in this project. (around 8000 Latin names in the database and a lot of pollen grain pictures, that are delivered separately). A lot of other people have been engaged in this project too and I am here giving a big THANK YOU to all of You! The Pollen database has been developed for those beekeepers who are interested in knowing the source of their honey. It is also suitable for building up your own Beeplant Flora. You can, by adding pictures, build your own local database, but be warned : The pictures must be in Windows BMP format, and four pictures occupies around 1mb of your diskspace. The best of it is, that this software is free of charge. The only thing we will ask of you is that you help us to improve the database by sending us the information and pictures you add yourself, so that we can build up a CD with this software, containing as many pictures as possible. Best regards Jorn Johanesson apimo@post4.tele.dk -- EDBi = Beekeeping software for Windows 3.1 win95 e-mail apimo@post4.tele.dk edbi homepage http://home4.inet.tele.dk/apimo or http://www.wn.com.au/apimo Ken Morris homepage http://www.wn.com.au/gol/members/kenm Article 9925 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!newsgate.duke.edu!nntprelay.mathworks.com!howland.erols.net!ix.netcom.com!news From: John Germany Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: pollen database Date: Tue, 07 Oct 1997 09:15:00 -0400 Organization: Johnny's Billiards and Grill Lines: 3 Message-ID: <343A35D4.426@ix.netcom.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: ath-ga2-04.ix.netcom.com Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-NETCOM-Date: Tue Oct 07 8:15:56 AM CDT 1997 X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01 (Win95; I) Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9925 can someone please send me the address of the pollen database that was posted here recently? human error has removed it from this machines memory. thanks so much! Article 9926 of sci.agriculture.beekeeping: Path: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu!news-relay.ncren.net!gatech!141.211.144.13.MISMATCH!newsxfer3.itd.umich.edu!newsfeed.internetmci.com!137.192.241.248!mr.net!news.mr.net!bell.pconline.com!not-for-mail From: "Alan Miron" Newsgroups: sci.agriculture.beekeeping Subject: Bee Equipment 4 sale. Northern WI Date: 7 Oct 1997 17:47:55 GMT Organization: pcOnline Internet Services Lines: 411 Message-ID: <01bcd348$fbcc2f60$LocalHost@amiron> NNTP-Posting-Host: tsa-p1.pconline.com X-Newsreader: Microsoft Internet News 4.70.1161 Xref: fddinewz.oit.unc.edu sci.agriculture.beekeeping:9926 My father was a beekeeper in Northern Wisconsin for many years. Recently he passed away and I am trying to help my mother liquidate all of his bee keeping equipment. I have produce a spreadsheet listing all the equipment available. Some of it is used, but a lot of it is brand new, since my father was a Dadant dealer for the area. We also have a number of periodicals and magazines pertaining to the trade. This could be useful to persons just starting out in the business or just for reference. The location of the equipment is in Ashland Wisconsin. I am located in the Twin Cities. I will be available to show the equipment on weekends. The equipment is substancial but we are willing to sell it off in smaller parcels. I used Excel 97 to produce the list. Since Office 97 is fairly new I have put the list in Adobe Acrobat PDF format. If you don't already have a the free reader you can download it from the Adobe web site http://www.adobe.com/prodindex/acrobat/win95rs.html. The prices for the equipment were derived through our cost of the new equipment from both Dadant and Kelly companies. These prices are still negotiable. For some items I couldn't really figure the price so these items can be sold with an offering to be made. One last item. The equipment is in a warehouse just outside the city of Ashland. This is were my father kept his hives. If anyone is interested in the business as a whole, we will sell the land, the building, and the equipment as a business. The honey harvested from this area is clover and our customers always complimented how good it was. For serious inquiries, call Veroncia Miron Ashland Wisconsin 715-682-4180 or Alan J. Miron Minnetonka, MN 612-935-0293 amiron@pconline.com begin 600 Inventory.PDF M)5!$1BTQ+C(@#0HEXN//TPT*( T*." P(&]B:@T*/#P-"B],96YG=&@@.2 P M(%(-"B]&:6QT97(@+TQ:5T1E8V]D92 -"CX^#0IS=')E86T-"H 0BH#1D,!< M-AH(!K!1<.! 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