From lflondon@mindspring.com Fri Sep 22 02:16:19 2000 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:52:47 -0400 From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." To: london@metalab.unc.edu Subject: (fwd) Bush Tucker On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:35:22 +1000, in alt.permaculture "David Harvey" wrote: I've lived in Australia since 1976, and my understanding is that the skills live on only among the aboriginies who are "out bush", and even there much is being lost. (Sadly, for many it is easier to live on welfare handouts and crates of beer.) The white man (yup, that's me) has steadfastly resisted learning to make use of aboriginal foods. The first anglo-saxons out here brought peas and carrots and onions and potatoes from the old country, and stuck with them. In recent years it has become fashionable for some expensive and trendy restaurants in Sydney (where I live) to add a little "bush tucker" to their menus. The law here is once again permitting the sale of kangaroo, emu and crocodile meats. These were banned by law for human consumption in Australia ten years ago, yet thirty years ago I remember buying "kangaroo tail soup" in overseas supermarkets. There are city aboriginies who live just around the block from where I live, near Redfern (an inner suburb of Sydney), and I know from reading some of their political activist newsletters that their idea of a cookout includes carrots and potatoes! So here we go, the full circle. There is also an Australian ex-Army major, who grew up with the bush aboriginies. I foget his name, but he has done TV series of documentaries and books illustrating all kinds of bush tucker foods and medicines. He is known here as the "Bush Tucker Man". His original job was to put all this information into survival booklets that were issued to Aussie troops in the Northern Territory (aka a state) of Australia. (Stupidly, our politicians actually gave away copies of this book to the Indonesian military, who are the most likely candidates for ever invading this place! Believe it or not!) Lawrence F. London, Jr. Venaura Farm ICQ#27930345 lflondon@mindspring.com london@metalab.unc.edu http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech Ecolandtech http://www.ibiblio.org/permaculture Permaculture http://www.ibiblio.org/intergarden/orgfarm AGINFO From lflondon@mindspring.com Fri Sep 22 02:16:35 2000 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:53:30 -0400 From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." To: london@metalab.unc.edu Subject: (fwd) Re: Bush Tucker On Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:54:17 +1000, in alt.permaculture Tara Deen wrote: > There is also an Australian ex-Army major Major Les Higgins. The man has spent a lot of time with the aborigines og NT, and really knows is stuff. There are a few unofficial web site devoted to him scattered about the net. Unfortunately Lawrence, most of white Asutralia was raised on stodgy British meat-and-three-veg. While there are some aboriginals out there who choose to live the traditional way, that also often means that they choose not to have contact with the mainstream western culture. There have been a number of efforts to document their knowledge, and a number of books are available. Paul, have you visited the tent embassy in Victoria Park? I overlook it from my work. It's really growing! Seems to get bigger every day... Tara -- ______________________________________________________ Tara Deen School of Geosciences Division of Geology and Geophysics Building FO5 University of Sydney NSW 2006 AUSTRALIA Phone: 61-2-9351 4271 Fax: 61-2-9351 0184 Mobile: 061 410 538 655 email: tara@es.usyd.edu.au ______________________________________________________ Lawrence F. London, Jr. Venaura Farm ICQ#27930345 lflondon@mindspring.com london@metalab.unc.edu http://www.ibiblio.org/ecolandtech Ecolandtech http://www.ibiblio.org/permaculture Permaculture http://www.ibiblio.org/intergarden/orgfarm AGINFO From lflondon@mindspring.com Fri Sep 22 02:16:47 2000 Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2000 23:58:46 -0400 From: "Lawrence F. London, Jr." To: london@metalab.unc.edu Subject: (fwd) Re: Bush Tucker [ Part 1: "Included Message" ] Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:54:17 +1000 From: Tara Deen Newsgroups: alt.permaculture Subject: Re: Bush Tucker > There is also an Australian ex-Army major Major Les Higgins. The man has spent a lot of time with the aborigines og NT, and really knows is stuff. There are a few unofficial web site devoted to him scattered about the net. Unfortunately Lawrence, most of white Asutralia was raised on stodgy British meat-and-three-veg. While there are some aboriginals out there who choose to live the traditional way, that also often means that they choose not to have contact with the mainstream western culture. There have been a number of efforts to document their knowledge, and a number of books are available. Paul, have you visited the tent embassy in Victoria Park? I overlook it from my work. It's really growing! Seems to get bigger every day... Tara -- ______________________________________________________ Tara Deen School of Geosciences Division of Geology and Geophysics Building FO5 University of Sydney NSW 2006 AUSTRALIA Phone: 61-2-9351 4271 Fax: 61-2-9351 0184 Mobile: 061 410 538 655 email: tara@es.usyd.edu.au ______________________________________________________ [ Part 2: "Included Message" ] Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 13:35:22 +1000 From: David Harvey Newsgroups: alt.permaculture Subject: Bush Tucker I've lived in Australia since 1976, and my understanding is that the skills live on only among the aboriginies who are "out bush", and even there much is being lost. (Sadly, for many it is easier to live on welfare handouts and crates of beer.) The white man (yup, that's me) has steadfastly resisted learning to make use of aboriginal foods. The first anglo-saxons out here brought peas and carrots and onions and potatoes from the old country, and stuck with them. In recent years it has become fashionable for some expensive and trendy restaurants in Sydney (where I live) to add a little "bush tucker" to their menus. The law here is once again permitting the sale of kangaroo, emu and crocodile meats. These were banned by law for human consumption in Australia ten years ago, yet thirty years ago I remember buying "kangaroo tail soup" in overseas supermarkets. There are city aboriginies who live just around the block from where I live, near Redfern (an inner suburb of Sydney), and I know from reading some of their political activist newsletters that their idea of a cookout includes carrots and potatoes! So here we go, the full circle. There is also an Australian ex-Army major, who grew up with the bush aboriginies. I foget his name, but he has done TV series of documentaries and books illustrating all kinds of bush tucker foods and medicines. He is known here as the "Bush Tucker Man". His original job was to put all this information into survival booklets that were issued to Aussie troops in the Northern Territory (aka a state) of Australia. (Stupidly, our politicians actually gave away copies of this book to the Indonesian military, who are the most likely candidates for ever invading this place! Believe it or not!)