-- CES Day One -- IRC Discussion with Game Master Journal's Anthony Shubert (shubert@usc.edu) [GMJ-Ace] -- All GMJ Text is (C) 1994 Innovative Creations. Edited for clarity, length by Jer Horwitz (Blasphemy). [V089L3S3@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU] *** Channel #GMJ on Internet Relay Chat, at roughly 11:45 EST 1/6/94*** See the porta-SNES? no porta-snes The porta-Gen/CD? yep - the CDX is no big deal lemme grab the sega kit sorry - "Genesis CDX" I guess that only makes sense to make a portable genny... CDX has the following sonic cd ecco cd But the Q-sound will suck on a portable! arcade classics cd (Monico GP, golden axe, Rev. of shinobi and Columns and Streets of Rage) So it will actually have Monaco GP? 8inx5.5inx1.8in Active Matrix Screen? MSRP for the CDX - $399. Ouch. Woof. um, lemme check Ace: Built-in control pad? NO screen ??? right What! lemme quote the Sega PR pack Well that's silly. "Genesis CDX takes video gaming I knew that was coming. with 3 ways to play - Genesis carts and Sega CD games through YOUR TV, and audio CD through your headphones or stereo....." What's the point??? the HEADPHONES are the portable part, I suppose. I'll follow up on that tomorrow GMJ: The CDs are portable. Ha. Who needs it? SATURN INFO Sega continues to deny a US-Saturn BUT 4 very big licencees, "off the record" have told me Crystal Dynamics already publicly announced development. that they have development kits for it Blas: they were not one of the 4 :) Blas: there was one perm-blocked section to ALL and I mean ALL Was it an actual denial, or did they just not say anything? Ace: Capcom + Acclaim are now 3DO developers, true? I think it is where it (the Saturn) may be tomorrow..? TLG: "We have no comment a this time" Blas: Lemme check the 3do stuff Ace: Well, that's a big yes in my book ... :) Ace: Also interested in your opinions on 3DO's showing. hang on gang dunno about acclaim and Cap for 3do - fill check tomorrow Blas; I believe you .. and unless they flat out deny it i.e., "We _will not_ bring the saturn to the US." then I think they will .. and even then .. TLG: "No comment" = yes :) :) GMJ: You didn't get Capcom literature? Blas no, not yet. No Acclaim either GMJ: Did you get a 3DO press folder? My other eds will not be here till 4pm tomorrow :( NO Blas wait here is what I have done today Nintendo + 3d parties most Acc/Cap are in a different area Sega GMJ: I take it you haven't heard anything about multi-platform releases of SF2, then? (It would be big enough news to make the free trade journals.) =) -- quick interruption due to Netsplit. I got split. What did I miss? at 11:20, he played Tom Kalinske, Sega's CEO in Virtua Racing, for the Genesis Blas: nada Just a bit about the Edge 16 Nothing impt. the AT+T booth, where the guy played, was in another pavillion Ace: Over the Edge 16? Or just on one genny? TLG over THE EDGE Kalinske was near the Sonic 3 / Feb. 2 booth * TLGuy thinks if VirtuaRacing can be played over the edge, it is a must have peripheral (and game) .. (Hedgehog/Groundhog day) KOOL! TLG nod Who won? too bad VR Genesis in 2-pl. mode looks so sad.. Other Edge games Blas: What does it look like? TLG: Very few polygons. RUMOR: SSF2, MK GMJ: SSF2 announced for Sega? (I would assume no splitscreen mode over the edge 16) Blas no, RUMORED big time TLG YES, splitsreen GMJ: See any pics in Nintendo's booth of the SNES version? Bummer ... Blas nope GMJ: No MK2 announcements I take it. Blas: nope. GMJ: And Capcom isn't, to your knowledge, showing SSF2 for the SNES? Blas that is a DEFINATE nope Gang I cannot believe it. Konami SNES games ? Maybe Castlevania V ? :) something you need to know about the ces (this involves you fire) is that most of the 1st day is press confernces. Aaah . . . I had MAYBE 3 hrs playing out of 8 hrs there um, 10 HOURS there *IF* you opt to attend press conferences. eiter pc's or interviews or running around setting them up Blas: it's required of me Any big announcements made? Or do they save those for the last days? PCs are a waste if you're in my frame of mind at CES. blas: by me :) GMJ readers loved the last CES coverage - we are doing it again TLG no, the big announcements are on day 1 NINTENDO's*BIG* announcement Coming this march it's "PowerFest 94" Ace: Don't forget fire's Konami q. fire: I did not get to Konami as they are one of our friday companies Powerfest 94 is basically Nintendo World Championsips II What the heck is PowerFest 94? oh. BIG deal. People should almost be excited about that. grand prize: $100,000 "The Wizard 2, with Fred Savage, will be coming out to support the PowerFest." hahahahahahahahahahahah Blas: :) hahahaha "They'll show hidden levels of Super Mario 4." "And never before seen footage of the cancelled Donkey Kong CD." ahh! !!!ROFL! "Save the girl from Donkey Kong" for GB is coming this march And that game really _needed_ an update... Guy: I had a whole CES parody ready to post, and my WP killed the file. aww redo it! :) Blas: Bummer! so who was there? Ace: What are the most impressive Nintendo + Sega titles you've seen? Ace: Ditto to blas's q. I was very pissed when the file died, so I'm not going to be redoing it. check that. GB-Dk coming June Most impressive.. so far Sonic 3.. Super Metroid Of course. How big (megs) is Super Metroid ? Ace: And why would those be so impressive? I liked Lester the Unlikely (DTMC for Sper NES) fire; 24 MEG Ace: Nothing innovative there (Lester) So that _is_ an actual title? Super Metroid? Was not aware of that except in Blas's fantasies .. :) TLG: No, that's really the name. SM is real - and cool due out... * GMJ-Ace flipps thru the pr stuff.. :) I wish they had given it a better title .. I _hate_ the "Super" additions. ue april Ace: What's so impressive about Metroid and Sonic3? SONIC 3 ace: ditto, again, to Blas's q. BEST bonus level ever Which is? okay picture a basketball now make that a red, gridded ball now, Sonic and Tails run around on the ball, collecting things and the things otate to you rotate to you psuedo-1st person POV GMJ: Probably 8 of the 24 megs right there. and VERY cool Blas: they said only 2 meg Ace: Joke. =) not alot has to move Ace: Ain't compression great? :) Ace: How about Metroid? but what DOES move, gives you the impression of a moving globe. So is it a girl or a guy? Blas: I am 'scheduled' to play at 11am tomorrow ;) Metroid stars Samus (girl) again Ace: What was so impressive about it? Blas: about super meroid? 2 1/2 screen tall characters great , GREAT graphics blas: end boss of an area Ace: to go back to a previous topic, what is Sega's reasoning for the CDX system, if it's not a true portable? Answer when this thread is done.. TLG: no clue. Ace: No TTI at the show? See SNK? lemme check anyone have a logfile for this whole thing ( or a info so far sheet)? Jad : this is all being logged ace: you will usenet post it? Jad: read GMJ! It'll be on all r.g.v.* newsgroups Tuesday I am here tonight for 3 reasons 1: to let people know that GMJ 36 will be huge, cool and worth reading 2: to answer questions about what I saw 3: to get answers for tomorrow night (7pm) Game Master Journal (number 36) is an online magazine about videogames sunsite.unc.edu, /uploads/GMJ directory OR in rec.games.video.(fill-in-the-blank) okay getting back to where we were.. TTI and SNK, lemme look in the book um, no TTI it seems Ace: Hahahahahahaha... no TTI. The CES is not gonna be publick next time no SNK it seems either Ace: Wow. Heard they were going to be showing NeoStar. Guess not. Ace: And Fatal Fury Special. Blas: is NeoStar their next generation system? Ace: What about other interesting stuff you saw? Notables in your head? TLG: Supposedly. I guess the Geo isn't capable of handling fighting game clones anymore. =) Blas: :) okay.. notables UBI Soft's John Madden FB for the NES (yes, 8 bit) wasn't bad Ace: NES stuff. Oh gawd. [and they GAVE 2 games. Not "We'll send it",but GAVEthem to me!] heh In case you got the NEW NES ... Aero-Dynamically designed for better flight out windows.. okay lemme go down the list tlg : hahahahahahahahaha Gametek: Pinball dreams.. VERY VERY cool GMJ: For SNES? ace: CD32 right? Blas: :) for super nes Square has "Breath of Fire" GMJ: P.D.'s A joke. Awesome !! :) Ace; Was GameTek's Brutal for SegaCD any good? Blas: not this time - pretty cool Fire: baa TLG didn't go to sega's 3rd party people today *> Blasphemy was about to say that, TLG. :) Breath of Fire was very cool RPG It's about time someone brought Breath of Fire over here ! GMJ: BoF is cool. Final Fantasy 3!!! Ace: Oh yeah, sorry. GMJ: Just in time! Now they can get to work on FFIV. Ace: Finally !!!!! FF3 i s coming in .. get this.. OCTOBER yuk Only one month from projections. Not bad. Blas: and a YEAR LATE :) Well, I have got to go ... 'sbeen Fun ... What time and channel on Saturday, Ace? October, FF VI is coming out in Japan this March right ? Ace: How about new Enix stuff? Gaia Fantasy or something more impressive? Fire: Yep TLG: tomorrow at 7pm, Saturday at 9pm (Pacific) right here Blas: dunno Ace; Oh yeah, and really quickly, did Sega have F-1 CD Heavenly Symphony CD or Wing Commander CD on display? *> Blasphemy laughs.. Wing Commander = Feb.. right. Did Square show anything else ? (Romancing Saga III ?) no RS 3 :( Ace: No onthose CD games? Anything for the new systems? TLG: which cd games Jad: you are next Ace: No official Project Reality photos I take it.. Blas: just more of the same from-SGI-Indy machine stuff Ace: Formula-1 CD Heavenly Symphony or WingCommander CD Heaven will be renamed for sure. TLG sorry, hadn't gone anywhere near those um, who DID those, again? Ace: See any of the new Eternal Champions products? Ace: Both CDs are Sega. Ace; Sega ... Blas: (groan) Ace: groan? Blas: I did the sega pr and sonic 3... Sega is friday see oh - kay... GMJ: Sorry. =( Nintendo today sega/jag/amiga (cd32) tomorrow "On sale next week; GMJ CES Tape" ace: $$? ace: How much? "$8.99 (that includes shipping) for about 90 minutes of cool stuff" ace: sign me up! video tape? "send $8.99 payable to Anthony Shubert to:" "Innovative Creations" GMJ-Ace: My check is in the mail! (I want lots of sega coverage!) "3730 McClintock Ave #119d" yayayya "Los Angeles, CA 90007" "ATTN: CES Tape" thassit? "Tapes will be sent about 3 days after your check/m.o. arrives, and AFTER Jan.20 jadzia asked if there was anything on the new systems. dark: yup darks: I think that's tomorrow or saturday ... Jad: I needed to do that piece of trip-justifying self-promotion first :) and i had the same question :) New systems I cover most tomorrow what I did see at the atari booth was cool - Cybermorph and CrGalaxy (but everyone has seen those) AvP? It was there, i think, but I didn't get to it jadzia no. tmrow? I was being carried away by some pr people tomorrow. Ace: See Stunt Trax FX? :) yes, I saw STFx not too bad Ace: Impressions? Better than Summer CES, I hope. like WORLDS better the speed was still too slow Ace: No other SFX games, besides the Argonaut robot thing? The speed will kill that game. and your wheels sometimes didn't line up with the car blas: what robot thing?? blas: Rise? cd32 ver? Ace: They have SFX-Citadel in development, robot game for SFX chip. ahh :) Ace: No other SFX games, then? please be shure to tell more people about ces-chat here in #GMJ, okay? sure Blas: not that I saw. Ace: What other *Good* SNES stuff did you see ? hey any news on the Jag? gmj: will you tape (or scan images of) the good info stuff they gave you? (i.e. the covers of propaganda cheets) Jad tape: definately scan: dunno. Most companies do not want us to. And *I* have to answer to them. oh well. tape is good enough! we are like *this* close to signing MAJOR ad deals we won't alter editorial clap clap clap (yay!) but we will follow their rules (to a point :) Ace: *SNES stuff* before you have to leave. okay okay * GMJ-Ace nudges Blas SNES stuff *> Blasphemy is a business-sort-of-guy nba jam um... Dr. Franken (DTMC again) Bubsy 2. Buahahahahaha.. =) haha Ace: These cannot be the most exciting things at the show (DTMC games.) mk2? star trek ds9 (Playmates) details! SF2 super yay no ssf2, no mk2 BEAVIS + BUTTHEAD (Viacom) wah DS9 details! okay okay yuk Beavis + Butthead? For SNES? DS9: (I gotta go soon) Blas: yep Viacom New Media is doing the development? Or Icom? ds9 it mirrors several episode of the show it's 15% done due 3rd quarter part one you pay Sisko is it ala ST judgement rites? or platform? Blas: Viacom now owns Icom (it seems) Viacom doing their own in-house stuff Ace: That's why I asked.. Jad a little of both part one you have to save your son jumping fire, exploring the ship finding him cool Ace: One last little Q before you run.. did you even walk by 3DO's booth/see anything of 3DO? no mode 7 (like in the COOL opening episode) Star Trek games.. Hmph. Blas: nope, opposite side of convention center blas: Blasphemer! ;) Ace: Ack. That's where all the action is.. =) B+B is very tame Jad: ST games by Spec Holobyte (Except 3DO) are nothing exciting... Rocko's modern life is GREAT Ace: What details do you know on B&B? B+B.. demo mode only today about 20% done, due by August(?) no real plot (is there ever?) "Light your trailer home on fire." it's a non-linear, non-point game haha beavus follows butt-head, or vice-versa (your call) Ace: Sega isn't getting a version of B&B? Blas: yep wait I think B+B may not be snes *> Blasphemy hopes not. no, it isn't it's Gen only Why even bother making a SNES version? why not both? what is the Nintendo-correct term for "Fire!"