-- CES Day Three -- IRC Discussion with Game Master Journal's Anthony Shubert (shubert@usc.edu) [GMJ-Ace] -- All GMJ Text is (C) 1994 Innovative Creations. Including discussion with Tanya Kutasz [Arkady]. Edited for clarity, length by Jer Horwitz (JBHorwitz). [V089L3S3@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU] Special Thanks to Eric Elias for capturing the file! ^^^^^^^ [EElias@Delphi.Com] *** Channel #GMJ on Internet Relay Chat, at roughly 12:15a EST 1/9/94*** (JBHorwitz) Greets, Ace. (GMJ) hello to all :) (JBHorwitz) Let me lay down the ground rules. (GMJ) sorry about the delay.. (JBHorwitz) Discussion tonight is going to be moderated, which means that each person will take a turn with questions. (GMJ) ..we were at Acclaim's reception at the Desert Inn (JBHorwitz) Each person will get a single question and one follow up. (GMJ) [or maybe 2 follows if really needed] (JBHorwitz) We will line up for questions, and you will signal interest in questions (JBHorwitz) by messaging me with the letter "Q" on a line by itself. (JBHorwitz) We're limiting ourselves to 1 shameless plug tonight, too, Ace. =) (GMJ) JB one per 15 minutes, perhaps :) (GMJ-Ace) GREAT! (GMJ-Ace) before *I* answer q's (GMJ-Ace) here's what y' need to know.. (GMJ-Ace) [Arkady] , Tanya Kutasz (Future Wave editor) is here too. She has some 3DO stuff too :) (GMJ-Ace) so if I cannot answer, and she does, [Arkady] will preceed comments. (JBHorwitz) Good evening, Arkady. Nice to have you here. =) (GMJ-Ace) [Arkady] Good evening (GMJ-Ace) okay (JBHorwitz) Ace: Go for the answers to last night's questions. (JBHorwitz) Three people are queued for questions. Please message me if you want to get in line. (GMJ-Ace) Pioneer's LaserActive was there.. (GMJ-Ace) ..I was there for only 10 minutes (explain why in a sec), but of dropping the price of the Genesis module (GMJ-Ace) There are no more RPGs from Square/Enix (JBHorwitz) (IF anyone has a specific Laseractive Q, message me with it privately) (GMJ-Ace) 3DO: LOTS to cover there.. (GMJ-Ace) Sleeper hit of the show: EA's "Twisted" for the 3DO (GMJ-Ace) Who Shot Johnny Rock had a huge line.. (GMJ-Ace) John Madden Football 3DO was impressive as well. (JBHorwitz) GMJ: Any impressions on Park Place 3DO football? (GMJ-Ace) Dennis Miller's News To Me was an, um, Interesting title.. (GMJ-Ace) PP 3DO = John Madden (JBHorwitz) Ace: Not as of last CES, it wasn't. (JBHorwitz) Ace: Not as of the 3DO sampler, either. (JBHorwitz) Ace: Full screen height characters. (GMJ-Ace) 3DO will be covered tomorrow for 3 hours more (most taped too) (JBHorwitz) Ace: And what was so amazing about Twisted? (GMJ-Ace) JBH ahh, that one! (GMJ-Ace) PP was too crowded for us to use it (we got to the 3do booth(s) at 5pm, closing at 6) (GMJ-Ace) Twisted.. (GMJ-Ace) most origional game in 10 years (GMJ-Ace) it's a game show / trivia game / puzzle / comedic title for the 3do. (GMJ-Ace) (PS: see the tape :) (JBHorwitz) Ace: Any word on the 3DO-Gun release date? (GMJ-Ace) i think that covers yesterday..? (GMJ-Ace) 3do gun coming Feb. (JBHorwitz) Okay. First question is FE. (FE) Ace: Any work on lowering the prices of Sega CD or 3DO or Laseractive? To what price? Thanks (GMJ-Ace) Sega CD will still be what it was (GMJ-Ace) (and I have a comment after this Q, JB) (GMJ-Ace) 3DO will drop shortly as Sanyo's player was there ("prob. $500 this spring") (GMJ-Ace) and AT+T's is coming this fall (JBHorwitz) Ace: Was there an official price reduction announcement from Panasonic? (GMJ-Ace) LaserActiv: More on that tomorrow, but the Genny mod will drop about 15% (GMJ-Ace) JBH: no, but if they want to compete.. (GMJ-Ace) okay.. BIG news (FE) Ace: Any signs of NBA Jam for 3DO / Jaguar? Someone speculated this on Usenet the other day... (GMJ-Ace) What I mean by module is the Genesis add-on to the LaserActive by Pioneer (GMJ-Ace) it costs about $250(?) and plays all carts, not cd's (GMJ-Ace) okay, NBA Jam won't be Jag, so sayeth Bob Brodie, dir. of communications at Atari (GMJ-Ace) 3do? dunno about that one (GMJ-Ace) Acclaim will not become a Jag developer. Atari doesn't really want them. (JBHorwitz) Ace: What was the "Big" news? (GMJ-Ace) BIG news (GMJ-Ace) Sega's Saturn was shown at the show (GMJ-Ace) (JBH: "Acclaim just takes Midway's games and ut them on less-powerful platforms... (JBHorwitz) Officially unveiled, or behind doors, or what, Ace? (GMJ-Ace) ...we are dealing with Midway." - Brodie) (GMJ-Ace) Saturn was on a video wall (JBHorwitz) Ace: Very, very interesting. (GMJ-Ace) they made a pretty big deal about it (GMJ-Ace) "Coming in Japan this fall - Saturn" (JBHorwitz) Cart or CD, Ace? (GMJ-Ace) It's CD based, looks like a SNES and a genesis combined (GMJ-Ace) [Arkady] it looked like a large CD walkman (JBHorwitz) They had an actual system prototype? (GMJ-Ace) (once again, see the tape :) (JBHorwitz) Ace: How similar to the EGM/Die Hard sketches? (GMJ-Ace) JBH: yeah, it was part of a pr-looping tape (GMJ-Ace) they showed some cool games (for like 2 seconds each) (GMJ-Ace) a cool scaling soccer game, Virtua Fighters arcade and more (GMJ-Ace) JBH: not even close, of course :) (JBHorwitz) "And More" - Be as specific as possible. (GMJ-Ace) they went by fast.. I'll try (GMJ-Ace) a Strider game (it appeared to be him) (GMJ-Ace) [Arkady] a virtual racing game (GMJ-Ace) [Arkady] a steven king game (GMJ-Ace) um, scratch that (JBHorwitz) Did the VR game look like VR from the arcade, or better, or what? And what's a Stephen King game? (GMJ-Ace) forget the steven king thing, LONG story. They mentioned him duing the pr thingie :) (GMJ-Ace) VR looked like the arcade (GMJ-Ace) [Arkady] which VR game? (JBHorwitz) And Virtua Fighters, also like the arcade? (JBHorwitz) Virtua Racing, that was. (GMJ-Ace) [Arkady] they only showed short clips of VRacing (JBHorwitz) What were highlights of the PR explanation? (GMJ-Ace) Identical to me, gang (GMJ-Ace) [Arkady] resolution wasn't as good, though (GMJ-Ace) and the next CES chat will *not* be tomorrow (Vega) What new games did you see for the Jaguar? Did you see Doom? Also, did you see any other betas or prototype games for the jaguar there? (JBHorwitz) Next question is Stu7, type while Ace responds. (GMJ-Ace) the next CES chat will be Thu at 7pm Pacific. Read GMJ 36 first in rec.games.video.(whatever) (GMJ-Ace) okay (GMJ-Ace) NO DOOM (GMJ-Ace) Alien vs. Predator (JBHorwitz) Ace: Besides ones mentioned last night. (GMJ-Ace) Checkered Flag bout 1/3 done (GMJ-Ace) Tempest 2000 (GMJ-Ace) based on the old arcade game (GMJ-Ace) that's it I think (JBHorwitz) Ace: EG magazine allegedly is giving T2000 game of the show. Any comments? (JBHorwitz) Stu7, type that question quick. (Stu7) Did you see/play Rebel Assault for Sega CD? (GMJ-Ace) um, no. Game of the show? NO WAY. Not even close. (GMJ-Ace) good game, but not GREAT. (GMJ-Ace) Yes, yesterday (JBHorwitz) TLGuy, you're up. (GMJ-Ace) FMV looked very good (GMJ-Ace) see review in GMJ 36 (GMJ-Ace) [by the way, CES coverage is spread out over 4 ishes because of time constraints] (GMJ-Ace) real important things in Tuesday night's issue (GMJ-Ace) TLGuy, go (TLGuy) Ok, pick one of these Q's : 1) Was there any mention of who dominated the X-mas season in system sales or 2) Which exhibitor was the overall best of the show, IYO? (GMJ-Ace) 1) Sega said they had won, and are expecting 54% of the market share for '94.. (GMJ-Ace) 2) not done yet, but it's a Sega/NOA tie, with Panasonic and EA tied for 3rd (JBHorwitz) NickG, you're up. (NickG) Any word on "Project Reality"? (GMJ-Ace) NickG: LONG interview (on CES tape) (GMJ-Ace) still all of 95 (GMJ-Ace) still running on an Onyx (read: $120,000 system) (Souther) Was their any new SNES peripherals or hardware that is worth mentioning? (GMJ-Ace) new SNES add-ons (JBHorwitz) Galan: Wait and then ask. (GMJ-Ace) ..no (GMJ-Ace) [Arkady] I didn't see any (JBHorwitz) Galan: Go for it. (JBHorwitz) Bentley: Go while Galan types. (Bentley) Did you get by to see Commodore's (CD32) booth? What did you see? Was the MPEG module available? How much?? What games did you see for CD32? (GMJ-Ace) galan msgd me (GMJ-Ace) I'll answe him first (GMJ-Ace) MK2 will be coming out this fall, and it will be Edge 16-able (GMJ-Ace) see GMJ 36 for more (GMJ-Ace) [make that a macro! :) ] (GMJ-Ace) Capcom: nothing new that you don't already know about, (GMJ-Ace) ahh, for jag. (GMJ-Ace) Capcom maybe, Acclaim no. (JBHorwitz) Smuv has the last question after you answer Bentley. (GMJ-Ace) Bentley: I am interviewing a Commo rep tomorrow, I did not get to that booth today (SMUVOPR8R) ALL:give me info on sega hardware..ie genesis, sega CD, and that new 32 bit system...thanx (GMJ-Ace) I had 5 interviews and other things today too :( (GMJ-Ace) new 32 bitter is Saturn, not coming here for a LONG time (May '95?) (GMJ-Ace) rest you can get in FAQ's (GMJ-Ace) plug time (GMJ-Ace) -------- (GMJ-Ace) Get a tape of the CES! (JBHorwitz) Ace: No official game titles named for Saturn yet? (JBHorwitz) Ace: And final question is from Darks. Did you like Total Eclipse? (GMJ-Ace) Almost 2 hours of inside interviews (Ed Boon, Bob Brodie, MARIO and more) (GMJ-Ace) send $8.99 + $3.23 s+h to: (GMJ-Ace) Innovative Creations (GMJ-Ace) 3730 McClintock Ave #119dq (GMJ-Ace) LA,CA 90007 (GMJ-Ace) ATTN: CES Tape (GMJ-Ace) make check/m.o. payble to Anthony Shubert (GMJ-Ace) -------- (GMJ-Ace) go ahead :) (JBHorwitz) Ace: Total Eclipse: Impressions? (GMJ-Ace) and for the LAST TIME: Thursday was an error. Nothing I can do about it. S+H not included. (GMJ-Ace) Total Eclipse: what system? (JBHorwitz) Sorry, I must have left Jiro out. He has the final after you answer Darks. (JBHorwitz) It's for 3DO, ace. (GMJ-Ace) we didn't do much 3do :) We were stuck in the Nint/Sega pavillion (other end o the show) ALL day (GMJ-Ace) Jiro! (JBHorwitz) Ace: Jiro wants to know if there will be a special controller for Tempest 2K. (Jiro) test (GMJ-Ace) as of now: no (JBHorwitz) Ace: Well, I guess that wraps it up for tonight. (JBHorwitz) Thanks for coming, thanks also to Arkady! (GMJ-Ace) lets go on until I get hung up on by CallWaiting (JBHorwitz) [=)] (JBHorwitz) Moderation is now off. (GMJ-Ace) [Arkady] I enjoyed being here. (Vega) finally.. enought plugs.. (GMJ-Ace) Vega (GMJ-Ace) do you know how much it costs to go here? (JBHorwitz) [Arkady: Very nice to see a woman involved in gaming, by the way.] (GMJ-Ace) all told: about $1000 (Dire) GMJ-Ace: Where are your journals available? (Vega) Much, it will cost me about $800 to go to the next CES.. (FE) Ace: What is the deal with Atari / Midway? Official pair? (bmetz) How many companies have signed on for the Jag? (GMJ-Ace) [Arkady] don't see many of my kind around here. (GMJ-Ace) bmetz: 15 (galan) bmetz: So far 40... (GMJ-Ace) Journals at wuarchive (GMJ-Ace) monday (GMJ-Ace) someone erased them before (galan) bmetz: Total (TLGuy) Ace: Was the Stepen King story serious? I mean, Virgin Interactive Signed Clive Barker, so you never know. . . (JBHorwitz) Arkady: It's unfortunate, really. I wish I could find a person like yourself around where I live, I'd love to play Virtua Racing with her. =) (GMJ-Ace) um, 15 NEW ones, that is (NickG) Ace: How long's the tape? Or how long will it be? (GMJ-Ace) [Arkady] I prefer VR-net games like Doom (bmetz) How much Jag coverage is there in the Tape? Any of Jag-Doom? (JBHorwitz) Ark: You'll like what 4-Play will be offering for the Jaguar. (FE) BIIIIIIIIGGG NEWS: OK, cool pics! (GMJ-Ace) The tape should be 120 minutes (darks) They are on busop (GMJ-Ace) BTW: we haven't gone to 4-play yet (FE) Watch Headline News at 30 past the hour. They talk about ratings and show pics of AvP and Super Metroid. I *JUST* caught the last 15 seconds!!!!!!! (darks) Ace you mentioned seeing maddon for 3do, when is it to be released? (JBHorwitz) Ark: And you haven't lived if you haven't tried either Virtua Racing 8-player or a VR game like the modified Castle Wolfenstein (Which actually sucks but points the way to better things.) (Vega) Are Atari and Midway official licenees? (FE) Ace: Thanks, what about the midway / atari question? Are they going to work together or not???? is atari going to make (produce) Midway games for Jaguar? (JBHorwitz) Ace: I don't think 4-Play is even there. Atari doesn't list them as a developer, do they?.. No answer necessary, put priority on other people. (TLGuy) Ace: Who's making MK2? I heard that midway was considering doing it themselves ... (FE) tlguy: I think acclaim (GMJ-Ace) march I think (darks) Thank you. (GMJ-Ace) They (Atari + Midway) are TALKING. Nothing signed yet (MrSolo) cnn has a clip on video violence today, showing mkii's fatalities. (FE) Ace: Sweet! Thanks... (GMJ-Ace) BABALITIES! (GMJ-Ace) gotta love 'em (Vega) Foward Moral Kombat to CNN also. (FE) AvP looks HOT!!! and smooth... (GMJ-Ace) I agree with the other term: "Infantalities" (JBHorwitz) Vega: Moral Kombat doesn't go over well with anyone who lacks common sense. (TLGuy) jbh: So much for political correctness. (GMJ-Ace) TLG: Babalities is turning your foe into a baby (FE) MK2 DOES have babalities? (JBHorwitz) FE: Yes, for sure. (Stu7) FE: I saw one today (GMJ-Ace) Arkady is oing to take a "power-nap" now. (FE) JB: Thanks... was wondering what everyone meant (FE) Stu7: What does it look like? morphing or something? (JBHorwitz) Arkady: Before you leave, what's the most exciting thing on 3DO these days? (GMJ-Ace) full des. on Babalities and friendships in GMJ 37 (Dire) MK2 for 3DO -- My greatest dream! (Stu7) FE: I saw it over someone's shoulder at Q-Zar: Looks life a baby appears and cries (GMJ-Ace) Dire: unlikely (GMJ-Ace) "Escape from Monstor Manor" was very good [Arkady] (Dire) Can't wait to see MK2 for Genesis -- NOT! (GMJ-Ace) [Arkady] and I'm not leaving. Every minute of sleep counts. (JBHorwitz) Ark: That's on store shelves - nothing more impressive for the future? (Peldor) MK2 for Genesis would more than likely make me puke.. :) (GMJ-Ace) [Arkady] is it? Hmmm... (FE) But MK2 will have modem support, which in itself is almost worth buying, if the modem doesn't cost too much... (TLGuy) FE: is $150 too much to you? (GMJ-Ace) ST: The NExt Generation looked good [Arkady] (Vega) GMJ: 3DO or SNES one?Donference. (FE) TL: 150 for the damn thing? no way... never mind, I prefer mortal kombat 2 with sweat! ;) (JBHorwitz) Ark: How about new stuff from Crystal Dynamics? (galan) TLG: What speed is the modem? THe Jag modem is rumord to be 9600 (GMJ-Ace) 3do (Dire) What's with "The Horde" and Kirk Cameron? (MrSolo) will that eagle thing ties to the imagination network? (darks) yes, did they show the horde? for 3do. (Dire) Supposedly he's the star. (Vega) GMJ: did it have FMV and real voices? (GMJ-Ace) [Arkady] I'm not even sure... (TLGuy) galan: Well, unless it's changed since winter CES it's 4800... (Dire) I saw a clip of it on CNN. (GMJ-Ace) like ** said, only one hour today (GMJ-Ace) call me ace (Dire) SPend ALL DAY tomorrow! (FE) Does anyone know if CNN has any coverage of CES planned for show sometime soon? (Vega) Ace: did it have FMV and real voices? :) (GMJ-Ace) and yes, there was video , but it's all rendered (Dire) Speaking of which -- Space Ace for 3do? (MrSolo) dire: you too? was that total eclipes at the background? (JBHorwitz) I watch tons of CNN and have somehow eluded all CES mentions. (Dire) MrSolo: I wonder -- it was split screen! (Vega) Ace: but no real voices? (GMJ-Ace) real voices (FE) JB: Did you get my message about Headline News and WCES pics??? (GMJ-Ace) No space ace (MrSolo) dire: yea! and someone mention TE doesn't have split screen. (JBHorwitz) Arkady: Any feelings on the non-Sanyo non-Panasonic 3DO systems? At&T's, etc? (galan) I seem to remember something about Star Trek for the Jag... anything about that at CES? (Vega) cool, hearing picard say make it so.. (GMJ-Ace) but there was Dragons Lair (JBHorwitz) FE: The thing about them showing the Metroid etc? I saw that. (Dire) CD-I seems to be getting all the LaserDisc games ported for it's MPEG cartridge. (JBHorwitz) We'll just see how a game system does when all it can offer are ports of Don Bluth laserdisc games. (GMJ-Ace) [Arkady] didn't see anything besides those today (FE) JB: Yeah, I think they will have more on CES stuff, but the 1-2 minute clip is primarily about ratings and stuff... (GMJ-Ace) *I* did, though :) (JBHorwitz) Ace: What did you pick up on? (FE) Ace: Did you play Checkered Flag II for the Jaguar? how is it? (GMJ-Ace) AT+T's looks ike a contender. Rumor has itthat i's double speed of Panasonic, and compatible with all (Mr_GHoST) What is this channel for? (JBHorwitz) CF2 was covered by Marty Chinn. (JBHorwitz) Ghost: CES discussion. (GMJ-Ace) FE: CF one. (GMJ-Ace) looked pretty good (FE) JB: Yeah, but I do like multiple perspectives! ;) (JBHorwitz) Ace: No price for AT&T's, though? (Mr_GHoST) ahhhhh (FE) CF1? For the Lynx? cool... (GMJ-Ace) JBH: nothing official, maybe $550. (GMJ-Ace) FE: NONO, for the JAG (FE) Ace: But isn't it called Checkered Flag II? No biggie... (JBHorwitz) Ace: And you're totally sure that Panasonic said nothing at all about a price decrease? I had it on good authority that Jan 15th, the price goes to $599. (Vega) I thought of a use for the Lynx on the jaguar.. It could be like a rear-view mirror on the system.. (GMJ-Ace) FE: have been wrong more than once this weekend :) (Vega) for CF2 (FE) $500 is the *prime* price for almost ANY video game system! (GMJ-Ace) JBH: nothing as-of-yet. I'll ask them specifically tomorrow (galan) Ace: At&T's 3DO... will it still have a reduced chipset (like less mem or something?) (FE) Ace: Course not! ;) (arglist) any comments on the Jaguar??? I am getting 10 in my store... (GMJ-Ace) galan: prob. not (FE) Vega: Rear-view mirror? For racing games? (Stu7) JB:Seriously thinking of getting a 3do? (GMJ-Ace) JB: news to me (JBHorwitz) Stu: Of course. (GMJ-Ace) gang, I gotta fly (JBHorwitz) Ace: Thanks again! (Dire) Thanks Ace! (FE) Ace: Cool chat... THANKS!!!!! (Vega) FE: Yea, for passing cars, it could work. OR (this is better) it could be the view point of another car in the race. *** Action: MrSolo will get one at $460 (NickG) Thanks a lot, Ace! (JBHorwitz) Bye Arkady (darks) thanks ace (galan) later Ace... (GMJ-Ace) I ask only 3 things (Stu7) JB: I'm thinking of waiting for PS-X (MrSolo) bye ace (GMJ-Ace) [Arkady] bye, TTYL maybe (FE) Vega: Hard to use though... the lynx is small... (Stu7) later Ace (GMJ-Ace) (she doen't IRC much) (Eric) Bye Ace! (JBHorwitz) [Arkady] : Start IRCing. =) (GMJ-Ace) JBH yeppers :) (FE) Vega: Good idea, but of course atari would never do it... (GMJ-Ace) ============== (JBHorwitz) Ace: Great. (GMJ-Ace) 1: reply about these irc chats! GMJ chats may become weekly :) reply to shubert@usc.edull. (galan) arglist: It will sell at your store... (GMJ-Ace) 2: read GMJ in r.g.v.(whatever) or ftp (wuarchive again next week) (GMJ-Ace) and 3: buy the tape :) (arglist) But does it play well, I know it will sell, ay 275... (GMJ-Ace) 4: send ace money so he can have BOOTH at the next CES (GMJ-Ace) 10x10 booth is $5000 (FE) JB: When is SCES94? May something? (GMJ-Ace) Nintendo's booth: $youdontwannaknow (JBHorwitz) FE: June something. (Stu7) Ace:The check is in the mail :) (GMJ-Ace) Stu7: :) (GMJ-Ace) cya's (JBHorwitz) Later Ace [IRC Ended at 1:15am or so EST.]