Sorry to bother every one, but isn't it e^((i)(pi) = -1 ;) and T.Cians is short for Tau Cetians (you know, I think I remember reading something about a group that designed a spacecraft to go to Tau Ceti, maube we should read those archives and see what they came up with. one never knows where you might find a good idea %-P) Other than that, I totally agree Kevin Houston Twin Cities, Minneapolis/St.Paul Minnesota USA