[b-greek] Re: rough breathing

From: Decker, Rodney (rdecker@bbc.edu)
Date: Tue Jan 29 2002 - 14:14:41 EST


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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Thanks, Byron (&amp; Carl) for those notes and refs. One would think that I'd have run into that before, but I don't ever remember doing so. Perhaps I'm just forgetful.</FONT></P>

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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Rodney J. Decker, Th.D.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Associate Prof/NT, Baptist Bible Seminary</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Clarks Summit, Pennsylvania, USA</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&lt;http://faculty.bbc.edu/rdecker/&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>PURL: &lt;http://purl.oclc.org/NT_Resources/&gt;</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; From: Byron &amp; Linetta Knutson [<A HREF="mailto:byronk@open.org">mailto:byronk@open.org</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 2:06 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; To: Biblical Greek</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Subject: [b-greek] Re: rough breathing</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; My &quot;INTRODUCTORY NEW TESTAMENT GREEK METHOD&quot; by Harper &amp; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Weidner makes this</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; comment about &quot;Breathings.&quot;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; 4. An &quot;initial&quot; P (rho) is generally written with the rough </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; breathing.&nbsp; When</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; P (rho) is doubled, in the middle of a word, the first P (rho) has the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; smooth breathing, and the second the rough.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; He gives as an example AR-RhHTOS&nbsp; &quot;unspeakable&quot;.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; (page 390, under Orthography.&nbsp; Copyright 1888 Charles </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Scribner's Sons, &amp;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; copyright 1916 Ella D. Harper)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; A.T. Robertson also has a note worth reading on this double </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; rho breathing</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; mark on page 225 (e) in his big grammar.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Byron Knutson</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; +++++++++++++++++++++</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Subject: Re: rough breathing</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; From: &quot;Decker, Rodney&quot; &lt;rdecker@bbc.edu&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:46:51 -0500</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; An analytical?! That's the old 1852 work by Wigram. I doubt </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; that it will</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; serve to support an argument that this was common practice as </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; late as 1967!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; But yes, it does use a most curious set of markings on words </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; beginning with</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; ARR-, some of which have *3* breathing marks and an accent. I'd never</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; noticed it in the analytical (but then I seldom use it), and </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; I've never seen</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; it anywhere else. The pre-1968 L&amp;S (9th ed.) did not do this, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; nor did the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; even earlier 8th ed. (1897). Does anyone have any historical </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; info that would</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; explain this odd orthography?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; ============================================</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Rodney J. Decker, Th.D.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Associate Prof/NT, Baptist Bible Seminary</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; Clarks Summit, Pennsylvania, USA</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; &lt;http://faculty.bbc.edu/rdecker/&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; PURL: &lt;http://purl.oclc.org/NT_Resources/&gt;</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; ============================================</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>&gt; </FONT>
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