From: Decker, Rodney (rdecker@bbc.edu)
Date: Tue Jan 29 2002 - 14:14:41 EST
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>Thanks, Byron (& Carl) for those notes and refs. One would think that I'd have run into that before, but I don't ever remember doing so. Perhaps I'm just forgetful.</FONT></P>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Rodney J. Decker, Th.D.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Associate Prof/NT, Baptist Bible Seminary</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Clarks Summit, Pennsylvania, USA</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2><http://faculty.bbc.edu/rdecker/></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>PURL: <http://purl.oclc.org/NT_Resources/></FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>> -----Original Message-----</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> From: Byron & Linetta Knutson [<A HREF="mailto:byronk@open.org">mailto:byronk@open.org</A>]</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 2:06 PM</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> To: Biblical Greek</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Subject: [b-greek] Re: rough breathing</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> My "INTRODUCTORY NEW TESTAMENT GREEK METHOD" by Harper & </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Weidner makes this</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> comment about "Breathings."</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> 4. An "initial" P (rho) is generally written with the rough </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> breathing. When</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> P (rho) is doubled, in the middle of a word, the first P (rho) has the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> smooth breathing, and the second the rough.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> He gives as an example AR-RhHTOS "unspeakable".</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> (page 390, under Orthography. Copyright 1888 Charles </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Scribner's Sons, &</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> copyright 1916 Ella D. Harper)</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> A.T. Robertson also has a note worth reading on this double </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> rho breathing</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> mark on page 225 (e) in his big grammar.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Byron Knutson</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> +++++++++++++++++++++</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Subject: Re: rough breathing</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> From: "Decker, Rodney" <rdecker@bbc.edu></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2002 15:46:51 -0500</FONT>
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> An analytical?! That's the old 1852 work by Wigram. I doubt </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> that it will</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> serve to support an argument that this was common practice as </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> late as 1967!</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> But yes, it does use a most curious set of markings on words </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> beginning with</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ARR-, some of which have *3* breathing marks and an accent. I'd never</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> noticed it in the analytical (but then I seldom use it), and </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> I've never seen</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> it anywhere else. The pre-1968 L&S (9th ed.) did not do this, </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> nor did the</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> even earlier 8th ed. (1897). Does anyone have any historical </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> info that would</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> explain this odd orthography?</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> ============================================</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Rodney J. Decker, Th.D.</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Associate Prof/NT, Baptist Bible Seminary</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> Clarks Summit, Pennsylvania, USA</FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> <http://faculty.bbc.edu/rdecker/></FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>> PURL: <http://purl.oclc.org/NT_Resources/></FONT>
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