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TH: [Fwd: fyi (fwd)]

Hey y'all.  I guess we're all to busy working on our trees to talk about
'em.  Anyway, the attached message appeared on the SAF listserv.  It
seems there is an effort to establish sci.forestry newsgroup.  Perhaps
ours could be a sub of that.  

[Personally, I like getting our discussions delivered to my mailbox, but
I guess this will open up the group a bit.  By the way, if you use the
wonderful new Netscape Communicator (Netscape 4.0), your discussion
lists can appear in the same window as your mail. ]

We'd better stop talking about computers and start talking about trees
again, or we'll have to rename this PC-House  :>)

Cheers,
Tom

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Tom Kimmerer
Forest Biologist
University of Kentucky
http://www.uky.edu/Projects/TreeWeb
tkimmer@pop.uky.edu
606-257-1824 (phone)
606-323-1031 (fax)

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From: Richard B Freeman <jeanbob@selway.umt.edu>

>From - Mon May  5 07:58:22 1997
From: drdav3@teleport.com (dR.DavE)
Newsgroups:
news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.industry.pulp-and-paper,sci.materia
ls,alt.construction,sci.engr.manufacturing,sci.agriculture,sci.environment
Subject: RFD: sci.forestry and misc.industry.wood-products
Followup-To: news.groups
Message-ID: <862820176.12994@isc.org>
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Archive-Name: sci.forestry
Date: Mon, 05 May 1997 08:16:16 GMT
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misc.industry.pulp-and-paper:1552 sci.materials:5298 alt.construction:2599
sci.engr.manufacturing:4380 sci.agriculture:6176 sci.environment:26678

                     REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
                    unmoderated group sci.forestry
            unmoderated group misc.industry.wood-products

This is a formal Request for Discussion (RFD) for the creation of two
world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroups, misc.industry.wood-products
and sci.forestry.  This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot
vote at this time.  Procedural details are below.

Newsgroup lines:
misc.industry.wood-products     Lumber and engineered wood products.
sci.forestry            Forestry practices and silviculture.

RATIONALE: all groups

Forestry and silviculture (organized cultivation of trees for industry)
fall between two non-related existing newsgroups, sci.environment and
sci.agriculture, and fit neither very well.  sci.environment is more
concerned with ecology, and from a political standpoint tends to view
forestry with suspicion and silviculture with contempt.  sci.agriculture
has several existing subgroups, none of which are related to forestry, and
most people don't think of silviculture when they think of agriculture.  It
seems clear that based on the existing newsgroup structure, a new newsgroup
for forestry and silviculture is warranted.

Likewise, misc.industry.wood-products would fill a grey area between
sci.forestry and existing newsgroups that touch on aspects of the
manufacture of wood products without actually addressing them particularly
(misc.industry.pulp-and-paper, sci.materials, alt.construction, etc.)

Most, if not all, timber companies now have presences on the Internet and
have hung their shingles on the Web.  These two newsgroups continue the
adoption of the Internet by timber and engineered-wood-products companies
such as Louisiana-Pacific, Georgia-Pacific, Weyerhaeuser, Boise-Cascade,
and others.  Both proposed newsgroups could serve as the basis for new or
relocated subhierarchies.  For instance, sci.forestry.silviculture, or moving
misc.industry.pulp-and-paper to misc.industry.wood-products.pulp-and-paper.
For these reasons I have combined the two RFDs into one article.


CHARTER: sci.forestry

sci.forestry is an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion of forestry and
silviculture, related scientific fields with the issue of forest management
in common.  Topics include all aspects of forestry and silviculture,
including theory, research, and practical applications.  Political
discussions on the moral validity of related government agencies and
private corporations is discouraged.  Readers interested in such topics are
invited to subscribe to more appropriate newsgroups such as sci.environment
or talk.environment.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: misc.industry.wood-products

misc.industry.wood-products is an unmoderated newsgroup for the discussion
of topics related to the timber and engineered wood products industries.
Topics include all aspects of the categories and manufacture of wood
products; including dimensional lumber; value-added materials such as
plywood, oriented strand board, particleboard, and veneer; composite
materials; cellulose products; and any other products which use new or
recycled wood fibers or materials.

END CHARTER.

CHARTER: all groups

Advertising:

Short relevant professional advertisements (less than 4 lines) of events,
World Wide Web sites or other information directly associated with the
discussion topic are permitted. Blatant off-topic or commercial
advertising is not.

END CHARTER.

PROCEDURE:

This is a request for discussion, not  a call for votes. In this phase of
the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be
raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of
21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to
news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call for Votes (CFV) may be posted
by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not
attempt to vote until this happens.

All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups.

This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation
guidelines.

Distribution:

This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:

        misc.industry.pulp-and-paper,
        sci.materials,alt.construction,
        sci.engr.manufacturing,
        sci.agriculture,
        sci.environment,
        news.groups,
        news.announce.newgroups

Proponent: David L. Vessell <david.vessell@lpcorp.com>

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David L. Vessell, webmaster, Louisiana-Pacific Corporation Information
  Systems, Lake Oswego OR.  david.vessell@lpcorp.com or dr.dave@pobox.com



tony tweedale

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